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Log from 2009-03-28:
--- Day changed Sat Mar 28 2009
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00:14 <luke-jr> power company FAIL
00:17 <ct|kyle> luke-jr FAIL
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00:28 <luke-jr> no u ct|kyle
00:28 <Vanhayes> .si
00:28 <tronner> Vanhayes: There doesn\'t seem to be a server matching “(urlquote” at the moment, sorry.
00:28 <ct|kyle> luke-jr U
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00:31 <luke-jr> no u
00:33 <ct|kyle> no U
00:33 <noob13> :/
00:33 <ct|kyle> ok luke-jr noob13 Fails agree?
00:33 <noob13> .tea
00:33 <tronner> noob13: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
00:33 <noob13> .ctos
00:33 <tronner> noob13: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo: Players (0/12):
00:34 <ct|kyle> .armaservers
00:34 <tronner> ct|kyle: This data is 21 seconds old; - | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | - (11/16), Wild West =Capture The Flag= (9/10), Crazy Tronners Ladle Fortress 1 (9/24), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (9/14), The YELLOW Submarine (8/12), {Delicious Desserts} High Rubber (7/10), Wild West =Sumo= (7/14), QµåntumPerførmånçe =Loose DF= (6/8), Afrothunder's High Rubber (6/10), Swampland Mud Puddle (5/8), $tronners->racing (1 more message)
00:34 <noob13> .sd le for
00:34 <tronner> noob13: Crazy Tronners Ladle Fortress 10xffff88: 0xffff88Players (9/24): 1200, 1337H4x0r, node3173 (P4@ct), Radian, slagsmalskluben, Vanhayes (Van-hayes@forums), Z00, ~|DS|~ Judders, ~|DS|~zion
00:34 <Vanhayes> ping
00:34 <ct|kyle> pong
00:35 <Vanhayes> node3173= P4 didnt know that
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00:37 <luke-jr_> luke-jr: die
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00:37 <luke-jr> ☺
00:38 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: your new neighbors I met must be power hogs
00:40 <luke-jr> bleh
00:40 <luke-jr> 183 days w/o being checked
00:40 <luke-jr> fsck :<
00:40 <luke-jr> hachi is at 73% fsck
00:40 <luke-jr> fyi
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00:44 <luke-jr> 88%
00:49 <Vanhayes> what is hachi?
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01:26 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: my home server
01:26 <luke-jr> http://hachi.dashjr.org/
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02:13 <HyperDrive> hello
02:14 <HyperDrive> whats happening dudes
02:17 <ivantis> nothing
02:17 <HyperDrive> i see
02:18 <HyperDrive> are there any beings here that exist outside of this thing we call reality ?
02:19 <HyperDrive> nah this list looks pretty normal
02:19 <HyperDrive> ok take care all, bye
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02:25 <sinewav> hmm. I wonder how you would identify a being outside reality if there was one?
02:25 <sinewav> I shloud have asked...
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05:37 <Lucifer> oh no, I just realized my last attempt to write acme isn't on my hard drive, and I don't know that I ever committed the pyqt4-based version
05:37 <Pathetique> LOL
05:38 <Lucifer> (not that it matters, whenever I start on it again, it'll be in c++)
05:38 <Pathetique> That blows.
05:38 * Lucifer is trying to decide if he's going to pack his room some more (moving tomorrow) or program a bit and then pack his room
05:39 <Lucifer> it breaks my heart that people still don't have a reasonably good map editor for arma
05:55 <Pathetique> Indeed.
05:55 <Pathetique> What also breaks my heart is the fact that PHP can be so gay.
05:55 <Pathetique> That, and that there's a bug concerning Global ID and the rounds won and matches won lists
05:56 <Pathetique> Where one person or identity will have multiple entries.
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06:49 <luke-jr> Pathetique: you mean the "bug" that not-logged-in people won't be considered the same as when they are logged in?
06:49 <Pathetique> no
06:50 <Pathetique> http://65.18.193.127/dbd/index.php?server=htf&show=30
06:50 <Pathetique> scroll down to Won Rounds
06:50 <Pathetique> "pathetique@forums" appears 3 different times.
06:50 <luke-jr> O.o
06:50 <Pathetique> yarly.
06:51 <luke-jr> Pathetique: did you actually report the bug?
06:51 <Pathetique> no
06:51 <Pathetique> too tired to
06:51 <Pathetique> :S
06:51 <Pathetique> It took me
06:51 <luke-jr> -.-
06:51 <Pathetique> approximately
06:51 <Pathetique> 3 hours
06:51 <Pathetique> to get that statistic page you're viewing up
06:51 <Pathetique> WITH help from Durka.
06:51 <luke-jr> …
06:51 <luke-jr> 3 hours wasted if you don't report the bug ;)
06:51 <Pathetique> meh
06:52 <Pathetique> At least now I have a stat page for the server :D
06:52 <luke-jr> I spent 2 days trying to figure out a bug
06:52 <Pathetique> I have no idea why this one occurs though
06:52 <Pathetique> just kno tht it does
06:52 <Pathetique> lol
06:52 <luke-jr> finally wrote a 3 setence bug report when I found it :x
06:52 <Pathetique> lol
06:52 <luke-jr> Pathetique: if it's not reported, it won't be fixed
06:52 <Pathetique> finefinefine
06:54 <luke-jr> k, nigt
06:56 <Pathetique> luke-jr: reported.
06:59 <Pathetique> Another one that I'm not goingt o report right now cause I'm too tired
06:59 <Pathetique> Master Servers like to not know how to count.
06:59 <Pathetique> IE, will go from 10, to 20, to 40.
07:02 <luke-jr> I think that's just a bug in your brain
07:02 <luke-jr> nobody said it was counting
07:05 <Pathetique> lol
07:05 <Pathetique> also
07:05 <Pathetique> Your spinning square server
07:05 <Pathetique> is debug build
07:05 <Pathetique> Each round it tries to kill user 0 for cheating.
07:05 <Pathetique> And doesn't show the zone.
07:06 <Pathetique> just fyi
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07:19 <Lucifer> probably would have only taken 1 hour without help from Durka
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07:52 <Lucifer> well, at least working on the pyqt4 version gave me an idea of how it should be setup, so I can start on the right foot in c++, hopefully
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08:26 <guru3> Good morning, everyone.
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10:23 <epsy> heh, we're going for another split :P
10:30 <hahaithatesme> MAH FINGAHS BE FAARPRUF
10:32 <epsy> um tramshed feeling alright?
10:32 <hahaithatesme> im feelin awesome!
10:32 <hahaithatesme> shitfaced ftw!
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14:47 <noob13> .servers
14:47 <tronner> noob13: This data is 65 seconds old; Wild West =Capture The Flag= (10/10), WILDCAT (7/8), - | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | - (7/16), The YELLOW Submarine (7/12), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (5/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (5/14), {Delicious Desserts} High Rubber (4/10), {Delicious Desserts} Racing II (4/14), $tronners->racing (4/10), Flower Power Sumo Assault (4/12), SPACEZONE III (4/15), Swampland Mud Puddle (1 more message)
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15:21 <epsy> http://icarus.funnyexam.com/content/1618/original/c.jpg
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15:49 <animuson> if u do a user_level username@* will it apply that username to all hosts?
15:51 <epsy> you DONT want that
15:51 <epsy> and no it won't
15:51 <animuson> well i whitelisted my 2 authorities
15:51 <animuson> which run on the same database
15:51 <epsy> sigh, whitelist
15:52 <epsy> if they run on the same DB, why two?
15:52 <animuson> one is shorter
15:52 <animuson> :P
15:53 <epsy> use the shorter one then?
15:53 <animuson> most people already have the longer one binded :P
15:54 <epsy> is that your problem?
15:54 <epsy> don't grant access to them then
15:54 <epsy> only grant in the preferred one, and don't allow new accounts to go on the unpreferred one
15:55 <animuson> new accounts automatically go to both of em
15:55 <epsy> they have a creation timestamp don't they?
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16:12 * Judders needs a ladle team :D
16:12 <sunny> lol
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16:13 * epsy is sure sooner or later there's going to be 6 DS'ers looking for a ladle team
16:14 <sunny> ds will play in open teams oO i think, i heard... :P but noone do it?!?!^^
16:18 <Vanhayes> when is the next ladle? next sunday?
16:18 <sunny> yea
16:18 <sunny> 5.4
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17:10 <dlh> z-man: You've got two "Bugfarm Sty CTF" servers running. Atleast you did when I checked the master list an hour or so ago.
17:11 <z-man> oops
17:11 <luke-jr> or maybe he just has NAPT!
17:11 * luke-jr wonders if that would work
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17:14 <ljrbot> New news from armagetronadbzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty] r895 Display version as 0.2.8-sty...
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17:39 <smoothice> .servers
17:39 <tronner> smoothice: This data is 8 seconds old; Fortress Garden (15/32), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (12/12), {Delicious Desserts} High Rubber (10/10), Wild West =Capture The Flag= (10/10), Wild West =CTF Shooting= (10/10), The YELLOW Submarine (9/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (9/14), - | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | - (8/16), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (7/12), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (2 more messages)
17:39 <smoothice> .more
17:39 <tronner> smoothice: (7/12), {Delicious Desserts} Racing II (6/14), $tronners->racing (6/10), - [ Nano's Playground | Nano Standard ] - . (5/8), |FA| Black Tar! (3/16), ~Night Walker's Central~DF~ (3/16), Wild West =Sumo= (3/14), .-=VcL.Clan's ->Sumo<- (2/10), Swampland Mud Puddle (2/8), -={Fighters DF}=- (2/10), Norm's Home - Open Gameplay (2/12), >>> FAST TRACK DEATH WALLS (NO RIMING)<<< (2/12), The Server Pharm (1 more message)
17:39 <smoothice> .more
17:39 <tronner> smoothice: EU: XZL High Rubber Clone (1/16), Flower Power Sumo Assault (1/12)
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18:51 <epsy> @ping
18:51 <teabot> pong
18:51 <epsy> #ping
18:52 <epsy> wow
18:53 <G5> epsy: ping
18:53 <G5> epsy: I found the problem (with my "read a master server" program)
18:54 <epsy> what was it?
18:54 <G5> epsy: And now I know even besser why I hate UDP und datagrams ...
18:54 <G5> oops .... better
18:54 <epsy> why?
18:55 <G5> I didnt realize at first that several Arma messages can be inside one datagram ...
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18:56 <G5> The PHP code reads datagrams like a stream ... like it is a TCP connection
18:56 <G5> (And Java doesnt.)
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18:58 <Rajinn> ]seen smoothice
18:58 <ljrbot> Rajinn: smoothice was last seen in #armagetron 1 hour, 19 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <smoothice> .more
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19:02 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: hey
19:05 <AshitakA> luke-jr: hey
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19:15 <ljrbot> New news from armagetronadbzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r664 merge from 0.2.8-sty || [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] merge from 0.2.8
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19:30 <z-man> Hey, anyone wants to help test the uber lag events on VcL sumo?
19:31 <dlh> sure
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19:35 <epsy> guess I should really clean that keyboard's 0 key
19:35 <epsy> brb
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19:51 <z-man> dlh: thanks. I'll look at the two semi-incidents we had.
19:52 <dlh> np
19:52 <luke-jr> at 8:30 PM, turn all the lights in your home ON kthx
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19:55 * joda_bot tries to update build tools (on pc)
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20:10 <arrow> #si tea
20:11 <arrow> .si tea
20:11 <tronner> arrow: TEAM FORTRESS (pardus.at): Players (0/16):
20:11 <arrow> .si cafe
20:11 <tronner> arrow: There doesn\'t seem to be a server matching “cafe” at the moment, sorry.
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20:12 <Tonno> Hi, how do I put the High Rubber in the local game?
20:12 <epsy> @tea
20:12 <teabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
20:12 <arrow> its empty epsy
20:12 <Tonno> Hola, como puedo poner el High Rubber en el local game?
20:12 <arrow> hm tonno i cant help u with that
20:12 <epsy> Tonno, open the console and type cycle_rubber
20:13 <epsy> that 0 key is fixed now :-)
20:13 <epsy> now if I could play arma anywhere..
20:13 <arrow> what u mean?
20:13 <arrow> u cant?
20:13 <epsy> the key itself didn't press properly
20:14 <arrow> aha
20:14 <arrow> strange
20:14 <arrow> why 0 ?
20:14 <epsy> there was some crap slowing it down :x
20:14 <Tonno> epsy, the console? you mean the terminal?
20:14 <epsy> Tonno, no
20:14 <epsy> see system config/misc/global kb config
20:15 <epsy> arrow, up for fort?
20:15 <arrow> pepsy
20:15 <arrow> sure:P
20:15 <ljrbot> New news from armagetronadbzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1114 Fixed VOTING_MATURITY. Fixes bug #350469... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r665 merge from canon sty+ct
20:15 <arrow> we go ct ladle 1 ok?:P
20:15 <epsy> uuh
20:16 <arrow> why?:P
20:16 <arrow> so cafe?
20:16 <epsy> yeah
20:16 <arrow> but ct is more stable lately
20:16 <arrow> cafe lags:/
20:16 <epsy> can check what's going on
20:16 <arrow> cool
20:16 <epsy> I'm laggy anyway, because of debug crap all over the place
20:17 <arrow> hm oka:P
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20:28 <ivantis> :( banned from #perl
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20:35 <Vanhayes> luke-jr, why would I turn all my lights on at 8:30 tonight?
20:37 <joda_bot> ivantis: can you write an FAQ entry on howto get banned ? :-)
20:38 <joda_bot> Vanhayes: i guess it's about opposing wwf energy saving day / night
20:39 <Vanhayes> thats what i figured, just wondering why luke-jr hates the earth
20:39 <luke-jr> just the global warming myth
20:40 <joda_bot> luke-jr: resistence is futile even your heart will melt one day :-)
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20:55 <arrow> pinkyyy
20:55 <arrow> :P
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21:19 <epsy> anyone plays armagetron tournaments at less than a 1024×768 resolution?
21:21 <joda_bot> epsy: there was someone who tried to use 320x200 to play tron ...
21:21 <joda_bot> can't recall who it was, but he had an intel chipset :D
21:22 <arrow> i have 1280x1024
21:22 <arrow> windowed
21:22 <joda_bot> arrow: lol ... less than !
21:23 <arrow> :P
21:23 <arrow> sry:s
21:23 <arrow> :D
21:23 <arrow> come on tea
21:24 <joda_bot> ? tea ?
21:24 <epsy> well
21:24 <arrow> cafe:P
21:24 <epsy> I mean
21:24 <arrow> hi joda btw
21:24 <epsy> if anyone that players armagetron tournaments has a resolution which is less big than 1024×768
21:24 <epsy> not the in-game resolution
21:25 <arrow> hm
21:25 <arrow> prob some might
21:25 <arrow> but harly i think
21:25 <arrow> hardly
21:25 <epsy> soooooo screw them?
21:25 <joda_bot> epsy: if you're talking about websites just do it your way :-)
21:26 <epsy> my way until now has always been plain .. fixed width
21:26 <epsy> which didn't work on small screens at all by the way
21:26 <joda_bot> epsy: yeah, switching to "em" and other relative size concepts requires some getting used to
21:27 <epsy> you don't have images as relative sizes
21:27 <arrow> btw i saw that one propoal for new arma web
21:27 <arrow> and wiki
21:27 <arrow> it looked rly nice :)
21:27 <epsy> browsers that resize images when resizing the rest as well don't need these anyway
21:28 <joda_bot> epsy: one rule I learned is, that IE and firefox handle font-sizing differently (in the way the font-size is applied to subcontainers like (display:block))
21:28 <epsy> so I'm planning on doing a non-fixed width one, but I have to decide on a minimal width where stuff don't get messed up
21:28 <joda_bot> epsy: try 40em or 80em :-) depends if you want some border
21:29 <epsy> I'm thinking about 1024 (minus browser UI) pixels wide
21:29 <arrow> its ok
21:29 <joda_bot> epsy: hm, I guess that won't work if you calculate it from some resolution you're still thinking or basing your calculations on pixels
21:29 <arrow> its most common i suppose now
21:30 <epsy> well, screens ship with a resolution done in pixels
21:30 <epsy> images as well
21:30 <epsy> and I can't resize images
21:30 <joda_bot> epsy: yeah, and browsers allow you abstract from that to some extend
21:30 <epsy> so that won't work
21:30 <joda_bot> epsy: you can resize images, but they might look garbled
21:30 <epsy> with CSS ?
21:31 <joda_bot> sure
21:31 <epsy> and I mean background images, of course
21:31 <joda_bot> you can just give an image a "3em" width
21:31 <joda_bot> O.o
21:31 <joda_bot> Which background image ? :D
21:31 <joda_bot> I guess you can specifiy the amount of repeats in "em"s too
21:32 <epsy> it can be a header or something
21:32 <joda_bot> I'm not sure if background images of div-layers and the main background are handled in the same way
21:32 <epsy> no, you can't specify a number of repeats
21:32 <epsy> it's either one time, either infinite
21:33 <joda_bot> ah ok ...
21:33 <epsy> well, at 1024px wide I will probably have to hide the "last posts" section
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21:34 <animuson> if u set a ban time to 0 will it be permanent?
21:34 <joda_bot> epsy: can you show me the page ?
21:34 <epsy> no, it will end up right now
21:34 <epsy> joda_bot, no :)
21:34 <epsy> or, when it's done
21:34 <Vanhayes> animuson, set it really high if you want it permanent
21:34 <epsy> yeah
21:34 <animuson> thats all u can do?
21:34 <joda_bot> epsy: heh ok, then I won't interfere with your designs :-)
21:34 <epsy> 1000000 would be serval years
21:35 <Vanhayes> well, as good as permanent anyways
21:35 <joda_bot> how about ban -1 :D
21:35 <epsy> bans them until one minute ago
21:35 <joda_bot> hmpf really ?
21:35 <epsy> or just makes a smart-ass comment
21:36 <joda_bot> I'd atleast want a smart ass comment if it's not forcefully converted to MAX_UINT :-)
21:36 <Vanhayes> go for 1 million or so, its about a ten year ban
21:36 <joda_bot> ban 1e06 :-)
21:36 <epsy> hah
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21:54 <Durka> quick server question
21:54 <Durka> can anyone help me?
21:54 <Vanhayes> ask and see
21:55 <Vanhayes> epsy, and joda_bot were kicking around not too long ago
21:56 * joda_bot is here (trying to hide)
21:57 <Durka> what is a good value to set DEDICATED_IDLE to?
21:57 <Durka> would 2 be too low?
21:57 <joda_bot> Durka if you have a looping script I guess 4-8h is ok ...
21:58 <joda_bot> hm, you can also use 2h
21:58 <Durka> it means the server restarts after that much time of idleness right?
21:58 <joda_bot> the server will just restart every 2h even if noone is on it
21:58 <Durka> yea
21:58 <joda_bot> if possible yes
21:58 <Durka> so i'll do like 12 hours?
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21:58 <Durka> whats reasonable
21:58 <joda_bot> it won't restart with players playing
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21:59 <joda_bot> reasonable is anything that works from 48h (if you've got no bugs :-P) to 10min ...
21:59 <joda_bot> I guess try 4h and reduce it if you still see problems
22:01 <epsy> vroom
22:01 <epsy> Well, I suppose it's graphics time for me
22:02 <epsy> boooh :'-(
22:03 <Durka> .m smoothice Espresso looks nice :D
22:03 <tronner> Durka: The operation succeeded.
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22:15 <nsh22> hello
22:29 <Vanhayes> hio
22:33 * akira_arma is a tired bunny
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22:45 <epsy> bunni!
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22:49 <nsh22> I GOTS A NEW CAMCORDER YAY!
22:50 <epsy> camcorder?
22:54 <nsh22> camera...
22:54 <nsh22> video camera*
22:54 <epsy> ah
22:54 <epsy> specs?
22:54 <nsh22> cannon fs100
22:55 <nsh22> its hd
22:55 <epsy> I said specs not brand
22:55 <nsh22> uses hdsc
22:55 <nsh22> ook
22:55 <nsh22> i havent opened the anual yet...
22:55 <nsh22> manual*
22:56 <epsy> you .. haven't opened the anal manual yet?
22:56 <nsh22> no, and i never plan to :P
22:56 <epsy> well, you know what res it is?
22:56 <nsh22> yeah
22:56 <epsy> annnnd it isss ?
22:56 <nsh22> @gtfy nsh22 cannon fs100
22:56 <nsh22> im searching
22:56 <teabot> nsh22: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=cannon%20fs100
22:57 <epsy> lol you bought it blindly?
22:57 <Vanhayes> HD cant do slow mo
22:57 <epsy> also it's canon not cannon
22:57 <epsy> :o)
22:57 <epsy> Digital Video
22:57 <epsy> Standard Definition or High Definition
22:57 <epsy> Standard Definition
22:58 <Vanhayes> how much did it cost nsh22 ?
22:58 <nsh22> after al the stuff was bought, about 500
22:59 <nsh22> 399 for the camera itself (and charger, battery etc). hdsc cards extra and extra warenty
23:00 <nsh22> plus, i needed a stupid voltage converter cus the french are tards and use 240v and different plugs
23:00 * nsh22 glares at epsy
23:00 <nsh22> :P
23:00 <epsy> so does all the europe
23:00 <epsy> and so should it be
23:00 <Vanhayes> the europe is wrong
23:00 <nsh22> Total Pixels
23:00 <nsh22> Approx. 1,070,000 pixels
23:00 <nsh22>
23:00 <nsh22> Effective Pixels
23:00 <nsh22> Movies:
23:00 <nsh22> 16:9 - approx. 550,000 pixels (ADV.Z off)
23:00 <nsh22> 16:9 - approx. 710,000 pixels (ADV.Z on, wide)
23:00 <nsh22> 16:9 - approx. 410,000 pixels (ADV.Z on tele)
23:01 <nsh22> Photos: approx. 800,000 pixels
23:01 <epsy> at 110V if you electrocute yourself you simply get paralyzed
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23:01 <nsh22>
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23:01 <epsy> at 240V you at least will shock away
23:01 <epsy> but better don't electrocute yourself
23:01 <nsh22> lol
23:01 <Vanhayes> id rather be dead then paralized
23:01 <nsh22> Zoom Ratio 48x Advanced Zoom (16:9)
23:01 <nsh22> 37x Optical/2000x Digital
23:01 <Durka> does anyone wanna try my server?
23:01 <epsy> nice!
23:01 <Durka> :\
23:01 <Durka> .si physics
23:01 <tronner> Durka: .:] Twisted Rats [:. CTF w/ Fortress Physics: Players (0/32):
23:02 <Durka> i finally fixed it
23:02 <epsy> also 1 megapixel means simply 1 000 000 px ?
23:02 <joda_bot> Durka low rubber ?
23:02 <Vanhayes> sure durka
23:02 <Durka> yea
23:02 <epsy> joda_bot, it's just like fort
23:02 <epsy> with added awesomenesss
23:02 <Vanhayes> fort can always use more awsome
23:03 <Durka> epsy: i've redesigned it
23:03 <Vanhayes> awesome*
23:03 <Durka> no stupid back entrances
23:03 <epsy> ah, then um
23:03 <joda_bot> epsy: might be fort setting with higher rubber :-P
23:03 <Durka> except, new sides ones :p
23:03 <epsy> it's crap then
23:03 <Durka> .si physics
23:03 <tronner> Durka: .:] Twisted Rats [:. CTF w/ Fortress Physics: Players (0/32):
23:03 <epsy> I wanna see the vast & furious for arma
23:03 <Durka> er am i in the wrong server oO
23:03 <epsy> fail
23:04 <Durka> o
23:04 <Durka> there they are!
23:04 <Vanhayes> .si physics
23:04 <tronner> Vanhayes: .:] Twisted Rats [:. CTF w/ Fortress Physics: Players (1/32): Durka (DDMJ@forums)
23:04 <nsh22> epsy: yeah
23:04 <Durka> join!!!
23:04 <epsy> does 1 megapixel simply mean 1 000 000 px ?
23:04 <Durka> .si physics
23:04 <tronner> Durka: .:] Twisted Rats [:. CTF w/ Fortress Physics: Players (1/32): Durka (DDMJ@forums)
23:05 <nsh22> epsy: yeah
23:05 <guru3> megapixels are in pixels squared
23:05 <epsy> nsh22, so it does less than 1MP? can't really believe that
23:05 <nsh22> ..no
23:06 <nsh22> it does 1.07
23:06 <epsy> errr
23:06 <epsy> only ? O_o
23:06 <nsh22> yeah...
23:06 <epsy> well, at least it has the awesome zoom
23:06 <epsy> and SDHC cards slot :-)
23:07 <nsh22> yeah, and image stabilizer
23:07 <epsy> Weight (not including lens and battery pack)
23:07 <epsy> 9.2 oz (260 g)
23:07 <epsy> lol, they are funny
23:07 <nsh22> it has a remote as well :P
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23:07 <epsy> heh, useful
23:09 <epsy> btw
23:09 <epsy> don't believe them when they say it's up to 8GB only
23:10 <nsh22> lol
23:10 <epsy> it will pretty much accept anything
23:10 <nsh22> lol yeah
23:10 <epsy> it was the same for the n95
23:10 <nsh22> i got 2 8gb cards for my trip to france :P
23:10 <epsy> on the spec page it reads 2GB max
23:10 <nsh22> rly? lol
23:11 <epsy> yeah, it was whatever came before SDHC
23:11 <epsy> you know what's different between the two?
23:11 <epsy> filesystem
23:11 <epsy> really
23:11 <epsy> one has fat16
23:11 <epsy> the other, uhm, fat32 ..
23:11 <epsy> it was just a matter of a little software update
23:11 <nsh22> Maximum recording time
23:11 <nsh22> 8GB SDHC Memory Card (not supplied)
23:11 <nsh22> LP (3 Mbps): 5 hours, 10 minutes
23:11 <nsh22> SP (6 Mbps): 2 hours, 45 minutes
23:11 <nsh22> XP (9 Mbps): 1 hour, 50 minutes
23:11 <nsh22> Greater recording time is possible by adding an SDHC Memory Card.
23:12 <nsh22>
23:12 <epsy> I have the page oipen here as well
23:12 <nsh22> lol
23:12 <epsy> so new I could put in a 32GB card if I wanted
23:12 <epsy> now*
23:12 <epsy> only problem is that nokia maps seems to be stuck on 2GB
23:12 <nsh22> lol
23:12 <epsy> so I can't load whole europe or w/e
23:13 <nsh22> haha
23:13 <epsy> :|
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23:13 <epsy> that was fatal when making my trip to germany
23:13 <epsy> "o shit I forgot to load germany"
23:14 <akira_arma> why did you want to make a trip to germany?
23:14 <epsy> it's not like I would then download them from mobile internet
23:15 <epsy> because I love weird languages
23:15 <nsh22> lmao
23:15 <epsy> from a foreign country
23:15 <epsy> you guess the cost
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23:16 <Durka> .si phys
23:16 <tronner> Durka: .:] Twisted Rats [:. CTF w/ Fortress Physics: Players (6/32): -IDt< MommA, Corn, Durka (DDMJ@forums), free kill (dlh@generalconsumption.org), joda.bot, Mågñïe
23:21 <epsy> @x
23:21 <teabot> epsy: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “¦×¦.” at the moment, sorry.
23:22 <joda_bot> .si phys
23:22 <nsh22> wow i love this camera, im just using for the first time
23:23 <epsy> @x
23:23 <teabot> epsy: ¦×¦.Team.Sumo.Server: Players (0/18):
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23:32 * fonkay is mad at Thinkgeek.com
23:34 <nsh22> thats sick, my camera has a light :P
23:35 <epsy> ?
23:35 <epsy> you mean flash?
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23:37 <nsh22> no, it has a little light on the end of it for recording in the dark
23:38 <nsh22> and stereo microphones
23:40 <epsy> so does my phone
23:40 <epsy> but the light it makes doesn't make it to the other side of the room
23:40 <epsy> and blooms anyone in view, though
23:40 <epsy> :x
23:42 <PinkTomato> nsh22: you imported it from Europe?
23:42 <nsh22> PinkTomato: no
23:42 <PinkTomato> Then why do you need a transformer?
23:42 <nsh22> cuz im going to france to stalk epsy soon :P
23:43 <joda_bot> epsy: he already got a cam ... hide
23:43 <PinkTomato> Some chargers accept 100-240V input
23:43 <epsy> it has 5 megapixels :P
23:43 <nsh22> yeah, but better safe than sorry :P
23:43 <epsy> yeah, better safe than sorry
23:43 <nsh22> epsy: what does?
23:44 <epsy> my phone's camera
23:44 <nsh22> ...
23:44 <PinkTomato> My phone camera has 1 Megapixel,
23:44 <epsy> don't worry, it zooms like shit
23:44 <PinkTomato> I bought it ysterday
23:44 <nsh22> howq does your phone have more egapixels than my camera?
23:44 <epsy> it doesn't do optical zoom anyway
23:44 <PinkTomato> nsh22: because yours does moving video
23:44 <epsy> I wonder, that's why I was so suspicious about your cam's res
23:44 <epsy> PinkTomato, mine does as well
23:44 <joda_bot> my phone can shoot fisheyed photos with 240x150 pixels
23:45 <epsy> I mean, well, it has stabilisation & co as well
23:45 <PinkTomato> epsy: at 5 Megapixles though O_o?
23:46 <PinkTomato> Oh wait, I see it would record at PAL/NTSC res
23:46 <PinkTomato> unless it can do HD?
23:47 <epsy> PinkTomato, gotta check
23:47 <nsh22> i THOUGHT mine was hd, ut it isnt, oh well
23:47 <epsy> PinkTomato, they say DVD quality
23:49 <nsh22> isit normal to have it make very small, techie noises (lie you would hear in like scifi movies?) when they zomm?
23:49 <epsy> unless when it's digital zoom..
23:49 <epsy> it's normal
23:49 <nsh22> ok
23:49 <nsh22> lol
23:49 <PinkTomato> epsy: ah I see
23:49 <PinkTomato> nsh22: 640*480 =
23:49 <nsh22> ???
23:49 <PinkTomato> 0.3 Megapixels
23:50 <epsy> gr, the gallery doesn't say what res it is
23:50 <PinkTomato> It says your camcorder records at 1,00,
23:50 <PinkTomato> at 1Mp*
23:50 <nsh22> it does
23:51 <PinkTomato> nsh22: 720*1280 =
23:51 <PinkTomato> 0.92 etc
23:51 <nsh22> 921600
23:51 <PinkTomato> so it is HD? 720p mode
23:51 <PinkTomato> at least
23:51 <nsh22> no i dont think so
23:52 <epsy> VIDEO: [mp4v] 640x480 24bpp 30000.000 fps 0.0 kbps ( 0.0 kbyte/s)
23:52 <epsy> don't know wtf is with fps
23:52 <nsh22> frames per second?
23:52 <epsy> yes
23:53 <epsy> mp4v doesn't handle variable fps does it?
23:53 <PinkTomato> nsh22: " The DIGIC DV II Image Processor designed specifically for HD, combined with a 1.07 Megapixel CCD image sensor provides users with Image Stabilization and sharper, clearer images and ensures optimal image quality."
23:53 <PinkTomato> Or it is upscaling
23:53 <nsh22> thats for mine?
23:53 <PinkTomato> Sounds like native 720p though
23:53 <PinkTomato> yes :)
23:54 <nsh22> yay
23:54 <nsh22> and i got the really good sdhc cards
23:54 <nsh22> 8gb 60x speed :P
23:54 <PinkTomato> 8GB I hope
23:54 <nsh22> ^
23:54 <PinkTomato> ^_^
23:55 <nsh22> Standard Definition or High Definition
23:55 <nsh22> Standard Definition
23:55 <nsh22>
23:55 <nsh22> ....
23:59 <PinkTomato> nsh22: it's not 1080p :)
23:59 <PinkTomato> nsh22: source?
23:59 <nsh22> http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&fcategoryid=2544&modelid=16185#ModelDetailAct
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is a site that has tools, maps, and other various items. It orignally only existed as a server control panel, but I slowly began adding stuff such as a homepage and tools.
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This is an LLM-free zone. In general, I am unwilling to use (fight with) any form of "GenAI" to write code for me. So, for the forseeable future, everything on this site will continue to be written by a very silly goose (wait that's me honk honk) with some parts written by other humans as well (silly hu-mon) rather than any plausible-series-of-words token-eating machine. Even my libraries are out of date, and suddenly that's a good thing!
(Although the style has changed several times and content has been added and changed, the base of this site has barely been updated since 2015. But it Ain't Broke!)
This site is also occasionally tested with older browsers, but compatibility is not guarenteed. Although, if you have an old obscure browser and something isn't working that previously did, I guess you can tell me (nelg) about it...
Gridder
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