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Log from 2009-03-28:
--- Day changed Sat Mar 28 2009
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00:14 <luke-jr> power company FAIL
00:17 <ct|kyle> luke-jr FAIL
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00:28 <luke-jr> no u ct|kyle
00:28 <Vanhayes> .si
00:28 <tronner> Vanhayes: There doesn\'t seem to be a server matching “(urlquote” at the moment, sorry.
00:28 <ct|kyle> luke-jr U
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00:31 <luke-jr> no u
00:33 <ct|kyle> no U
00:33 <noob13> :/
00:33 <ct|kyle> ok luke-jr noob13 Fails agree?
00:33 <noob13> .tea
00:33 <tronner> noob13: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
00:33 <noob13> .ctos
00:33 <tronner> noob13: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo: Players (0/12):
00:34 <ct|kyle> .armaservers
00:34 <tronner> ct|kyle: This data is 21 seconds old; - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (11/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (9/10), Crazy Tronners Ladle Fortress 1 (9/24), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (9/14), The YELLOW Submarine (8/12), {Delicious Desserts} High Rubber (7/10), Wild West  =Sumo= (7/14), QµåntumPerførmånçe =Loose DF= (6/8), Afrothunder's High Rubber (6/10), Swampland Mud Puddle (5/8), $tronners->racing (1 more message)
00:34 <noob13> .sd le for
00:34 <tronner> noob13: Crazy Tronners Ladle Fortress 10xffff88: 0xffff88Players (9/24): 1200, 1337šH4x0r, node3173 (P4@ct), Radian, slagsmalskluben, Vanhayes (Van-hayes@forums), Z00, ~|DS|~ Judders, ~|DS|~zion
00:34 <Vanhayes> ping
00:34 <ct|kyle> pong
00:35 <Vanhayes> node3173= P4 didnt know that
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00:37 <luke-jr_> luke-jr: die
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00:37 <luke-jr> ☺
00:38 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: your new neighbors I met must be power hogs
00:40 <luke-jr> bleh
00:40 <luke-jr> 183 days w/o being checked
00:40 <luke-jr> fsck :<
00:40 <luke-jr> hachi is at 73% fsck
00:40 <luke-jr> fyi
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00:44 <luke-jr> 88%
00:49 <Vanhayes> what is hachi?
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01:26 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: my home server
01:26 <luke-jr> http://hachi.dashjr.org/
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02:13 <HyperDrive> hello
02:14 <HyperDrive> whats happening dudes
02:17 <ivantis> nothing
02:17 <HyperDrive> i see
02:18 <HyperDrive> are there any beings here that exist outside of this thing we call reality ?
02:19 <HyperDrive> nah this list looks pretty normal
02:19 <HyperDrive> ok take care all, bye
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02:25 <sinewav> hmm. I wonder how you would identify a being outside reality if there was one?
02:25 <sinewav> I shloud have asked...
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05:37 <Lucifer> oh no, I just realized my last attempt to write acme isn't on my hard drive, and I don't know that I ever committed the pyqt4-based version
05:37 <Pathetique> LOL
05:38 <Lucifer> (not that it matters, whenever I start on it again, it'll be in c++)
05:38 <Pathetique> That blows.
05:38  * Lucifer is trying to decide if he's going to pack his room some more (moving tomorrow) or program a bit and then pack his room
05:39 <Lucifer> it breaks my heart that people still don't have a reasonably good map editor for arma
05:55 <Pathetique> Indeed.
05:55 <Pathetique> What also breaks my heart is the fact that PHP can be so gay.
05:55 <Pathetique> That, and that there's a bug concerning Global ID and the rounds won and matches won lists
05:56 <Pathetique> Where one person or identity will have multiple entries.
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06:49 <luke-jr> Pathetique: you mean the "bug" that not-logged-in people won't be considered the same as when they are logged in?
06:49 <Pathetique> no
06:50 <Pathetique> http://65.18.193.127/dbd/index.php?server=htf&show=30
06:50 <Pathetique> scroll down to Won Rounds
06:50 <Pathetique> "pathetique@forums" appears 3 different times.
06:50 <luke-jr> O.o
06:50 <Pathetique> yarly.
06:51 <luke-jr> Pathetique: did you actually report the bug?
06:51 <Pathetique> no
06:51 <Pathetique> too tired to
06:51 <Pathetique> :S
06:51 <Pathetique> It took me
06:51 <luke-jr> -.-
06:51 <Pathetique> approximately
06:51 <Pathetique> 3 hours
06:51 <Pathetique> to get that statistic page you're viewing up
06:51 <Pathetique> WITH help from Durka.
06:51 <luke-jr> …
06:51 <luke-jr> 3 hours wasted if you don't report the bug ;)
06:51 <Pathetique> meh
06:52 <Pathetique> At least now I have a stat page for the server :D
06:52 <luke-jr> I spent 2 days trying to figure out a bug
06:52 <Pathetique> I have no idea why this one occurs though
06:52 <Pathetique> just kno tht it does
06:52 <Pathetique> lol
06:52 <luke-jr> finally wrote a 3 setence bug report when I found it :x
06:52 <Pathetique> lol
06:52 <luke-jr> Pathetique: if it's not reported, it won't be fixed
06:52 <Pathetique> finefinefine
06:54 <luke-jr> k, nigt
06:56 <Pathetique> luke-jr: reported.
06:59 <Pathetique> Another one that I'm not goingt o report right now cause I'm too tired
06:59 <Pathetique> Master Servers like to not know how to count.
06:59 <Pathetique> IE, will go from 10, to 20, to 40.
07:02 <luke-jr> I think that's just a bug in your brain
07:02 <luke-jr> nobody said it was counting
07:05 <Pathetique> lol
07:05 <Pathetique> also
07:05 <Pathetique> Your spinning square server
07:05 <Pathetique> is debug build
07:05 <Pathetique> Each round it tries to kill user 0 for cheating.
07:05 <Pathetique> And doesn't show the zone.
07:06 <Pathetique> just fyi
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07:19 <Lucifer> probably would have only taken 1 hour without help from Durka
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07:52 <Lucifer> well, at least working on the pyqt4 version gave me an idea of how it should be setup, so I can start on the right foot in c++, hopefully
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08:26 <guru3> Good morning, everyone.
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10:23 <epsy> heh, we're going for another split :P
10:30 <hahaithatesme> MAH FINGAHS BE FAARPRUF
10:32 <epsy> um tramshed feeling alright?
10:32 <hahaithatesme> im feelin awesome!
10:32 <hahaithatesme> shitfaced ftw!
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14:47 <noob13> .servers
14:47 <tronner> noob13: This data is 65 seconds old; Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), WILDCAT (7/8), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (7/16), The YELLOW Submarine (7/12), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (5/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (5/14), {Delicious Desserts} High Rubber (4/10), {Delicious Desserts} Racing II (4/14), $tronners->racing (4/10), Flower Power Sumo Assault (4/12), SPACEZONE III (4/15), Swampland Mud Puddle (1 more message)
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15:21 <epsy> http://icarus.funnyexam.com/content/1618/original/c.jpg
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15:49 <animuson> if u do a user_level username@* will it apply that username to all hosts?
15:51 <epsy> you DONT want that
15:51 <epsy> and no it won't
15:51 <animuson> well i whitelisted my 2 authorities
15:51 <animuson> which run on the same database
15:51 <epsy> sigh, whitelist
15:52 <epsy> if they run on the same DB, why two?
15:52 <animuson> one is shorter
15:52 <animuson> :P
15:53 <epsy> use the shorter one then?
15:53 <animuson> most people already have the longer one binded :P
15:54 <epsy> is that your problem?
15:54 <epsy> don't grant access to them then
15:54 <epsy> only grant in the preferred one, and don't allow new accounts to go on the unpreferred one
15:55 <animuson> new accounts automatically go to both of em
15:55 <epsy> they have a creation timestamp don't they?
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16:12  * Judders needs a ladle team :D
16:12 <sunny> lol
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16:13  * epsy is sure sooner or later there's going to be 6 DS'ers looking for a ladle team
16:14 <sunny> ds will play in open teams oO i think, i heard... :P but noone do it?!?!^^
16:18 <Vanhayes> when is the next ladle? next sunday?
16:18 <sunny> yea
16:18 <sunny> 5.4
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17:10 <dlh> z-man: You've got two "Bugfarm Sty CTF" servers running. Atleast you did when I checked the master list an hour or so ago.
17:11 <z-man> oops
17:11 <luke-jr> or maybe he just has NAPT!
17:11  * luke-jr wonders if that would work
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17:14 <ljrbot> New news from armagetronadbzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty] r895 Display version as 0.2.8-sty...
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17:39 <smoothice> .servers
17:39 <tronner> smoothice: This data is 8 seconds old; Fortress Garden (15/32), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (12/12), {Delicious Desserts} High Rubber (10/10), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (10/10), The YELLOW Submarine (9/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (9/14), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (8/16), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (7/12), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (2 more messages)
17:39 <smoothice> .more
17:39 <tronner> smoothice: (7/12), {Delicious Desserts} Racing II (6/14), $tronners->racing (6/10), -  [ Nano's Playground | Nano Standard ]  -         . (5/8), |FA| Black Tar! (3/16), ~Night Walker's Central~DF~ (3/16), Wild West  =Sumo= (3/14), .-=VcL.Clan's ->Sumo<- (2/10), Swampland Mud Puddle (2/8), -={Fighters DF}=- (2/10), Norm's Home - Open Gameplay (2/12), >>> FAST TRACK DEATH WALLS (NO RIMING)<<< (2/12), The Server Pharm (1 more message)
17:39 <smoothice> .more
17:39 <tronner> smoothice: EU: XZL High Rubber Clone (1/16), Flower Power Sumo Assault (1/12)
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18:51 <epsy> @ping
18:51 <teabot> pong
18:51 <epsy> #ping
18:52 <epsy> wow
18:53 <G5> epsy: ping
18:53 <G5> epsy: I found the problem (with my "read a master server" program)
18:54 <epsy> what was it?
18:54 <G5> epsy: And now I know even besser why I hate UDP und datagrams ...
18:54 <G5> oops .... better
18:54 <epsy> why?
18:55 <G5> I didnt realize at first that several Arma messages can be inside one datagram ...
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18:56 <G5> The PHP code reads datagrams like a stream ... like it is a TCP connection
18:56 <G5> (And Java doesnt.)
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18:58 <Rajinn> ]seen smoothice
18:58 <ljrbot> Rajinn: smoothice was last seen in #armagetron 1 hour, 19 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <smoothice> .more
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19:02 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: hey
19:05 <AshitakA> luke-jr: hey
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19:15 <ljrbot> New news from armagetronadbzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r664 merge from 0.2.8-sty || [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] merge from 0.2.8
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19:30 <z-man> Hey, anyone wants to help test the uber lag events on VcL sumo?
19:31 <dlh> sure
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19:35 <epsy> guess I should really clean that keyboard's 0 key
19:35 <epsy> brb
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19:51 <z-man> dlh: thanks. I'll look at the two semi-incidents we had.
19:52 <dlh> np
19:52 <luke-jr> at 8:30 PM, turn all the lights in your home ON kthx
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19:55  * joda_bot tries to update build tools (on pc)
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20:10 <arrow> #si tea
20:11 <arrow> .si tea
20:11 <tronner> arrow: TEAM FORTRESS (pardus.at): Players (0/16):
20:11 <arrow> .si cafe
20:11 <tronner> arrow: There doesn\'t seem to be a server matching “cafe” at the moment, sorry.
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20:12 <Tonno> Hi, how do I put the High Rubber in the local game?
20:12 <epsy> @tea
20:12 <teabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
20:12 <arrow> its empty epsy
20:12 <Tonno> Hola, como puedo poner el High Rubber en el local game?
20:12 <arrow> hm tonno i cant help u with that
20:12 <epsy> Tonno, open the console and type cycle_rubber
20:13 <epsy> that 0 key is fixed now :-)
20:13 <epsy> now if I could play arma anywhere..
20:13 <arrow> what u mean?
20:13 <arrow> u cant?
20:13 <epsy> the key itself didn't press properly
20:14 <arrow> aha
20:14 <arrow> strange
20:14 <arrow> why 0 ?
20:14 <epsy> there was some crap slowing it down :x
20:14 <Tonno> epsy, the console? you mean the terminal?
20:14 <epsy> Tonno, no
20:14 <epsy> see system config/misc/global kb config
20:15 <epsy> arrow, up for fort?
20:15 <arrow> pepsy
20:15 <arrow> sure:P
20:15 <ljrbot> New news from armagetronadbzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1114 Fixed VOTING_MATURITY. Fixes bug #350469... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r665 merge from canon sty+ct
20:15 <arrow> we go ct ladle 1 ok?:P
20:15 <epsy> uuh
20:16 <arrow> why?:P
20:16 <arrow> so cafe?
20:16 <epsy> yeah
20:16 <arrow> but ct is more stable lately
20:16 <arrow> cafe lags:/
20:16 <epsy> can check what's going on
20:16 <arrow> cool
20:16 <epsy> I'm laggy anyway, because of debug crap all over the place
20:17 <arrow> hm oka:P
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20:28 <ivantis> :( banned from #perl
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20:35 <Vanhayes> luke-jr, why would I turn all my lights on at 8:30 tonight?
20:37 <joda_bot> ivantis: can you write an FAQ entry on howto get banned ? :-)
20:38 <joda_bot> Vanhayes: i guess it's about opposing wwf energy saving day / night
20:39 <Vanhayes> thats what i figured, just wondering why luke-jr hates the earth
20:39 <luke-jr> just the global warming myth
20:40 <joda_bot> luke-jr: resistence is futile even your heart will melt one day :-)
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20:55 <arrow> pinkyyy
20:55 <arrow> :P
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21:19 <epsy> anyone plays armagetron tournaments at less than a 1024×768 resolution?
21:21 <joda_bot> epsy: there was someone who tried to use 320x200 to play tron ...
21:21 <joda_bot> can't recall who it was, but he had an intel chipset :D
21:22 <arrow> i have 1280x1024
21:22 <arrow> windowed
21:22 <joda_bot> arrow: lol ... less than !
21:23 <arrow> :P
21:23 <arrow> sry:s
21:23 <arrow> :D
21:23 <arrow> come on tea
21:24 <joda_bot> ? tea ?
21:24 <epsy> well
21:24 <arrow> cafe:P
21:24 <epsy> I mean
21:24 <arrow> hi joda btw
21:24 <epsy> if anyone that players armagetron tournaments has a resolution which is less big than 1024×768
21:24 <epsy> not the in-game resolution
21:25 <arrow> hm
21:25 <arrow> prob some might
21:25 <arrow> but harly i think
21:25 <arrow> hardly
21:25 <epsy> soooooo screw them?
21:25 <joda_bot> epsy: if you're talking about websites just do it your way :-)
21:26 <epsy> my way until now has always been plain .. fixed width
21:26 <epsy> which didn't work on small screens at all by the way
21:26 <joda_bot> epsy: yeah, switching to "em" and other relative size concepts requires some getting used to
21:27 <epsy> you don't have images as relative sizes
21:27 <arrow> btw i saw that one propoal for new arma web
21:27 <arrow> and wiki
21:27 <arrow> it looked rly nice :)
21:27 <epsy> browsers that resize images when resizing the rest as well don't need these anyway
21:28 <joda_bot> epsy: one rule I learned is, that IE and firefox handle font-sizing differently (in the way the font-size is applied to subcontainers like (display:block))
21:28 <epsy> so I'm planning on doing a non-fixed width one, but I have to decide on a minimal width where stuff don't get messed up
21:28 <joda_bot> epsy: try 40em or 80em :-) depends if you want some border
21:29 <epsy> I'm thinking about 1024 (minus browser UI) pixels wide
21:29 <arrow> its ok
21:29 <joda_bot> epsy: hm, I guess that won't work if you calculate it from some resolution you're still thinking or basing your calculations on pixels
21:29 <arrow> its most common i suppose now
21:30 <epsy> well, screens ship with a resolution done in pixels
21:30 <epsy> images as well
21:30 <epsy> and I can't resize images
21:30 <joda_bot> epsy: yeah, and browsers allow you abstract from that to some extend
21:30 <epsy> so that won't work
21:30 <joda_bot> epsy: you can resize images, but they might look garbled
21:30 <epsy> with CSS ?
21:31 <joda_bot> sure
21:31 <epsy> and I mean background images, of course
21:31 <joda_bot> you can just give an image a "3em" width
21:31 <joda_bot> O.o
21:31 <joda_bot> Which background image ? :D
21:31 <joda_bot> I guess you can specifiy the amount of repeats in "em"s too
21:32 <epsy> it can be a header or something
21:32 <joda_bot> I'm not sure if background images of div-layers and the main background are handled in the same way
21:32 <epsy> no, you can't specify a number of repeats
21:32 <epsy> it's either one time, either infinite
21:33 <joda_bot> ah ok ...
21:33 <epsy> well, at 1024px wide I will probably have to hide the "last posts" section
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21:34 <animuson> if u set a ban time to 0 will it be permanent?
21:34 <joda_bot> epsy: can you show me the page ?
21:34 <epsy> no, it will end up right now
21:34 <epsy> joda_bot, no :)
21:34 <epsy> or, when it's done
21:34 <Vanhayes> animuson, set it really high if you want it permanent
21:34 <epsy> yeah
21:34 <animuson> thats all u can do?
21:34 <joda_bot> epsy: heh ok, then I won't interfere with your designs :-)
21:34 <epsy> 1000000 would be serval years
21:35 <Vanhayes> well, as good as permanent anyways
21:35 <joda_bot> how about ban -1 :D
21:35 <epsy> bans them until one minute ago
21:35 <joda_bot> hmpf really ?
21:35 <epsy> or just makes a smart-ass comment
21:36 <joda_bot> I'd atleast want a smart ass comment if it's not forcefully converted to MAX_UINT :-)
21:36 <Vanhayes> go for 1 million or so, its about a ten year ban
21:36 <joda_bot> ban 1e06 :-)
21:36 <epsy> hah
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21:54 <Durka> quick server question
21:54 <Durka> can anyone help me?
21:54 <Vanhayes> ask and see
21:55 <Vanhayes> epsy, and joda_bot were kicking around not too long ago
21:56  * joda_bot is here (trying to hide)
21:57 <Durka> what is a good value to set DEDICATED_IDLE to?
21:57 <Durka> would 2 be too low?
21:57 <joda_bot> Durka if you have a looping script I guess 4-8h is ok ...
21:58 <joda_bot> hm, you can also use 2h
21:58 <Durka> it means the server restarts after that much time of idleness right?
21:58 <joda_bot> the server will just restart every 2h even if noone is on it
21:58 <Durka> yea
21:58 <joda_bot> if possible yes
21:58 <Durka> so i'll do like 12 hours?
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21:58 <Durka> whats reasonable
21:58 <joda_bot> it won't restart with players playing
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21:59 <joda_bot> reasonable is anything that works from 48h (if you've got no bugs :-P) to 10min ...
21:59 <joda_bot> I guess try 4h and reduce it if you still see problems
22:01 <epsy> vroom
22:01 <epsy> Well, I suppose it's graphics time for me
22:02 <epsy> boooh :'-(
22:03 <Durka> .m smoothice Espresso looks nice :D
22:03 <tronner> Durka: The operation succeeded.
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22:15 <nsh22> hello
22:29 <Vanhayes> hio
22:33  * akira_arma is  a tired bunny
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22:45 <epsy> bunni!
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22:49 <nsh22> I GOTS A NEW CAMCORDER YAY!
22:50 <epsy> camcorder?
22:54 <nsh22> camera...
22:54 <nsh22> video camera*
22:54 <epsy> ah
22:54 <epsy> specs?
22:54 <nsh22> cannon fs100
22:55 <nsh22> its hd
22:55 <epsy> I said specs not brand
22:55 <nsh22> uses hdsc
22:55 <nsh22> ook
22:55 <nsh22> i havent opened the anual yet...
22:55 <nsh22> manual*
22:56 <epsy> you .. haven't opened the anal manual yet?
22:56 <nsh22> no, and i never plan to :P
22:56 <epsy> well, you know what res it is?
22:56 <nsh22> yeah
22:56 <epsy> annnnd it isss ?
22:56 <nsh22> @gtfy nsh22  cannon fs100
22:56 <nsh22> im searching
22:56 <teabot> nsh22: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=cannon%20fs100
22:57 <epsy> lol you bought it blindly?
22:57 <Vanhayes> HD cant do slow mo
22:57 <epsy> also it's canon not cannon
22:57 <epsy> :o)
22:57 <epsy> Digital Video
22:57 <epsy> Standard Definition or High Definition
22:57 <epsy> 	Standard Definition
22:58 <Vanhayes> how much did it cost nsh22 ?
22:58 <nsh22> after al the stuff was bought, about 500
22:59 <nsh22> 399 for the camera itself (and charger, battery etc). hdsc cards extra and extra warenty
23:00 <nsh22> plus, i needed a stupid voltage converter cus the french are tards and use 240v and different plugs
23:00  * nsh22 glares at epsy
23:00 <nsh22> :P
23:00 <epsy> so does all the europe
23:00 <epsy> and so should it be
23:00 <Vanhayes> the europe is wrong
23:00 <nsh22> Total Pixels
23:00 <nsh22>  Approx. 1,070,000 pixels
23:00 <nsh22>  
23:00 <nsh22> Effective Pixels
23:00 <nsh22>  Movies:
23:00 <nsh22> 16:9 - approx. 550,000 pixels (ADV.Z off)
23:00 <nsh22> 16:9 - approx. 710,000 pixels (ADV.Z on, wide)
23:00 <nsh22> 16:9 - approx. 410,000 pixels (ADV.Z on tele)
23:01 <nsh22> Photos: approx. 800,000 pixels
23:01 <epsy> at 110V if you electrocute yourself you simply get paralyzed
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23:01 <nsh22>  
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23:01 <epsy> at 240V you at least will shock away
23:01 <epsy> but better don't electrocute yourself
23:01 <nsh22> lol
23:01 <Vanhayes> id rather be dead then paralized
23:01 <nsh22> Zoom Ratio 48x Advanced Zoom (16:9)
23:01 <nsh22> 37x Optical/2000x Digital
23:01 <Durka> does anyone wanna try my server?
23:01 <epsy> nice!
23:01 <Durka> :\
23:01 <Durka> .si physics
23:01 <tronner> Durka: .:] Twisted Rats [:. CTF w/ Fortress Physics: Players (0/32):
23:02 <Durka> i finally fixed it
23:02 <epsy> also 1 megapixel means simply 1 000 000 px ?
23:02 <joda_bot> Durka low rubber ?
23:02 <Vanhayes> sure durka
23:02 <Durka> yea
23:02 <epsy> joda_bot, it's just like fort
23:02 <epsy> with added awesomenesss
23:02 <Vanhayes> fort can always use more awsome
23:03 <Durka> epsy: i've redesigned it
23:03 <Vanhayes> awesome*
23:03 <Durka> no stupid back entrances
23:03 <epsy> ah, then um
23:03 <joda_bot> epsy: might be fort setting with higher rubber :-P
23:03 <Durka> except, new sides ones :p
23:03 <epsy> it's crap then
23:03 <Durka> .si physics
23:03 <tronner> Durka: .:] Twisted Rats [:. CTF w/ Fortress Physics: Players (0/32):
23:03 <epsy> I wanna see the vast & furious for arma
23:03 <Durka> er am i in the wrong server oO
23:03 <epsy> fail
23:04 <Durka> o
23:04 <Durka> there they are!
23:04 <Vanhayes> .si physics
23:04 <tronner> Vanhayes: .:] Twisted Rats [:. CTF w/ Fortress Physics: Players (1/32): Durka (DDMJ@forums)
23:04 <nsh22> epsy: yeah
23:04 <Durka> join!!!
23:04 <epsy> does 1 megapixel simply mean 1 000 000 px ?
23:04 <Durka> .si physics
23:04 <tronner> Durka: .:] Twisted Rats [:. CTF w/ Fortress Physics: Players (1/32): Durka (DDMJ@forums)
23:05 <nsh22> epsy: yeah
23:05 <guru3> megapixels are in pixels squared
23:05 <epsy> nsh22, so it does less than 1MP? can't really believe that
23:05 <nsh22> ..no
23:06 <nsh22> it does 1.07
23:06 <epsy> errr
23:06 <epsy> only ? O_o
23:06 <nsh22> yeah...
23:06 <epsy> well, at least it has the awesome zoom
23:06 <epsy> and SDHC cards slot :-)
23:07 <nsh22> yeah, and image stabilizer
23:07 <epsy>  Weight (not including lens and battery pack)
23:07 <epsy> 	9.2 oz (260 g)
23:07 <epsy> lol, they are funny
23:07 <nsh22> it has a remote as well :P
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23:07 <epsy> heh, useful
23:09 <epsy> btw
23:09 <epsy> don't believe them when they say it's up to 8GB only
23:10 <nsh22> lol
23:10 <epsy> it will pretty much accept anything
23:10 <nsh22> lol yeah
23:10 <epsy> it was the same for the n95
23:10 <nsh22> i got 2 8gb cards for my trip to france :P
23:10 <epsy> on the spec page it reads 2GB max
23:10 <nsh22> rly? lol
23:11 <epsy> yeah, it was whatever came before SDHC
23:11 <epsy> you know what's different between the two?
23:11 <epsy> filesystem
23:11 <epsy> really
23:11 <epsy> one has fat16
23:11 <epsy> the other, uhm, fat32 ..
23:11 <epsy> it was just a matter of a little software update
23:11 <nsh22> Maximum recording time
23:11 <nsh22>  8GB SDHC Memory Card (not supplied)
23:11 <nsh22> LP (3 Mbps): 5 hours, 10 minutes
23:11 <nsh22> SP (6 Mbps): 2 hours, 45 minutes
23:11 <nsh22> XP (9 Mbps): 1 hour, 50 minutes
23:11 <nsh22> Greater recording time is possible by adding an SDHC Memory Card.
23:12 <nsh22>  
23:12 <epsy> I have the page oipen here as well
23:12 <nsh22> lol
23:12 <epsy> so new I could put in a 32GB card if I wanted
23:12 <epsy> now*
23:12 <epsy> only problem is that nokia maps seems to be stuck on 2GB
23:12 <nsh22> lol
23:12 <epsy> so I can't load whole europe or w/e
23:13 <nsh22> haha
23:13 <epsy> :|
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23:13 <epsy> that was fatal when making my trip to germany
23:13 <epsy> "o shit I forgot to load germany"
23:14 <akira_arma> why did you want to make a trip to germany?
23:14 <epsy> it's not like I would then download them from mobile internet
23:15 <epsy> because I love weird languages
23:15 <nsh22> lmao
23:15 <epsy> from a foreign country
23:15 <epsy> you guess the cost
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23:16 <Durka> .si phys
23:16 <tronner> Durka: .:] Twisted Rats [:. CTF w/ Fortress Physics: Players (6/32): -IDt< MommA, Corn, Durka (DDMJ@forums), free kill (dlh@generalconsumption.org), joda.bot, Mågñïe
23:21 <epsy> @x
23:21 <teabot> epsy: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “¦×¦.” at the moment, sorry.
23:22 <joda_bot> .si phys
23:22 <nsh22> wow i love this camera, im just using for the first time
23:23 <epsy> @x
23:23 <teabot> epsy: ¦×¦.Team.Sumo.Server: Players (0/18):
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23:32  * fonkay is mad at Thinkgeek.com
23:34 <nsh22> thats sick, my camera has a light :P
23:35 <epsy> ?
23:35 <epsy> you mean flash?
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23:37 <nsh22> no, it has a little light on the end of it for recording in the dark
23:38 <nsh22> and stereo microphones
23:40 <epsy> so does my phone
23:40 <epsy> but the light it makes doesn't make it to the other side of the room
23:40 <epsy> and blooms anyone in view, though
23:40 <epsy> :x
23:42 <PinkTomato> nsh22: you imported it from Europe?
23:42 <nsh22> PinkTomato: no
23:42 <PinkTomato> Then why do you need a transformer?
23:42 <nsh22> cuz im going to france to stalk epsy soon :P
23:43 <joda_bot> epsy: he already got a cam ... hide
23:43 <PinkTomato> Some chargers accept 100-240V input
23:43 <epsy> it has 5 megapixels :P
23:43 <nsh22> yeah, but better safe than sorry :P
23:43 <epsy> yeah, better safe than sorry
23:43 <nsh22> epsy:  what does?
23:44 <epsy> my phone's camera
23:44 <nsh22> ...
23:44 <PinkTomato> My phone camera has 1 Megapixel,
23:44 <epsy> don't worry, it zooms like shit
23:44 <PinkTomato> I bought it ysterday
23:44 <nsh22> howq does your phone have more egapixels than my camera?
23:44 <epsy> it doesn't do optical zoom anyway
23:44 <PinkTomato> nsh22: because yours does moving video
23:44 <epsy> I wonder, that's why I was so suspicious about your cam's res
23:44 <epsy> PinkTomato, mine does as well
23:44 <joda_bot> my phone can shoot fisheyed photos with 240x150 pixels
23:45 <epsy> I mean, well, it has stabilisation & co as well
23:45 <PinkTomato> epsy: at 5 Megapixles though O_o?
23:46 <PinkTomato> Oh wait, I see it would record at PAL/NTSC res
23:46 <PinkTomato> unless it can do HD?
23:47 <epsy> PinkTomato, gotta check
23:47 <nsh22> i THOUGHT mine was hd, ut it isnt, oh well
23:47 <epsy> PinkTomato, they say DVD quality
23:49 <nsh22> isit normal to have it make very small, techie noises (lie you would hear in like scifi movies?) when they zomm?
23:49 <epsy> unless when it's digital zoom..
23:49 <epsy> it's normal
23:49 <nsh22> ok
23:49 <nsh22> lol
23:49 <PinkTomato> epsy: ah I see
23:49 <PinkTomato> nsh22: 640*480 =
23:49 <nsh22> ???
23:49 <PinkTomato> 0.3 Megapixels
23:50 <epsy> gr, the gallery doesn't say what res it is
23:50 <PinkTomato> It says your camcorder records at 1,00,
23:50 <PinkTomato> at 1Mp*
23:50 <nsh22> it does
23:51 <PinkTomato> nsh22: 720*1280 =
23:51 <PinkTomato> 0.92 etc
23:51 <nsh22> 921600
23:51 <PinkTomato> so it is HD? 720p mode
23:51 <PinkTomato> at least
23:51 <nsh22> no i dont think so
23:52 <epsy> VIDEO:  [mp4v]  640x480  24bpp  30000.000 fps    0.0 kbps ( 0.0 kbyte/s)
23:52 <epsy> don't know wtf is with fps
23:52 <nsh22> frames per second?
23:52 <epsy> yes
23:53 <epsy> mp4v doesn't handle variable fps does it?
23:53 <PinkTomato> nsh22: "  The DIGIC DV II Image Processor designed specifically for HD, combined with a 1.07 Megapixel CCD image sensor provides users with Image Stabilization and sharper, clearer images and ensures optimal image quality."
23:53 <PinkTomato> Or it is upscaling
23:53 <nsh22> thats for mine?
23:53 <PinkTomato> Sounds like native 720p though
23:53 <PinkTomato> yes :)
23:54 <nsh22> yay
23:54 <nsh22> and i got the really good sdhc cards
23:54 <nsh22> 8gb 60x speed :P
23:54 <PinkTomato> 8GB I hope
23:54 <nsh22> ^
23:54 <PinkTomato> ^_^
23:55 <nsh22> Standard Definition or High Definition
23:55 <nsh22>  Standard Definition
23:55 <nsh22>  
23:55 <nsh22> ....
23:59 <PinkTomato> nsh22: it's not 1080p :)
23:59 <PinkTomato> nsh22: source?
23:59 <nsh22> http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&fcategoryid=2544&modelid=16185#ModelDetailAct

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