Log from 2009-03-01:
--- Day changed Sun Mar 01 2009
00:00 <zmanuel> No. The main purpose of protobuf was that we have more possibilities to modify our messages without breaking compatibility.
00:00 <zmanuel> The compression is a nice side effect :)
00:01 <luke-jr> imo, protobuf makes compatibility more difficult
00:01 <luke-jr> I don't know how to replace a tColor with a tGradient :p
00:01 <luke-jr> but I guess the old netsync wasn't any easier
00:03 <zmanuel> definitely not :)
00:03 <zmanuel> Remind me tomorrow to write something on 'how to change protobuf messages without breaking compatibility' on the wiki.
00:04 <luke-jr> why tomorrow? ☺
00:04 <zmanuel> Because it's midnight here and I would write only crap if I did it now.
00:05 <luke-jr> XD
00:12 <Lucifer> GodTodd__: ping
00:17 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9086 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (20 files in 5 dirs): Manuel Moos: Merged Luke-Jr's zone cleanup branch.
00:18 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9087 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/resource/tResource.cpp): Manuel Moos: Merging old map compatibility branch. Dunno what it does, but it doesn't break stuff :)
00:19 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9088 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/tron/zone/zShape.cpp): Manuel Moos: Applying legacy alpha factor to incoming 0.2.8 zone syncs.
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01:14 <smoothice> luke-jr: would you mind compiling armagetronad-v2sty quickly? i cannot do it on Osx
01:14 <luke-jr> I would.
01:15 <smoothice> THanks!
01:15 <smoothice> rev 863
01:16 <smoothice> luke-jr: I think I also need to make a zones v2 sty map
01:16 <luke-jr> smoothice: no, it should work with already existing maps
01:16 <luke-jr> and please reread what I said
01:16 <luke-jr> eg, I would (mind).
01:17 <smoothice> oh
01:17 <smoothice> oops
01:18 <smoothice> fine w/e
01:19 <smoothice> luke-jr: If BZR reports Text conflict in MacOS/Armagetron Advanced.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj
01:19 <smoothice> 1 conflicts encountered.
01:20 <smoothice> luke-jr: does that mean it resolved the conflict??
01:20 <luke-jr> no
01:20 <luke-jr> if it "resolved" it, it wouldn't be a conflict
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01:21 <smoothice> how do I know what the conflict was?
01:21 <kamp> anyone got an idea about how to get nickserv to let go of a past username?
01:22 <kamp> anyone around
01:22  * kamp sees a cricket go past
01:23 <smoothice> kamp: Not that I know of
01:23 <smoothice> kamp: try #freenode
01:23 <kamp> thanks
01:24 <kamp> anyway, how's it hangin in here?
01:24 <kamp> Armagetron moving forward?
01:24 <smoothice> yep
01:24 <smoothice> luke-jr: how do I know what the conflict was? it didn't tell me
01:25 <kamp> good to hear, good to hear
01:25  * kamp slouches off a bit
01:26 <smoothice> luke-jr: w/e, I'll just not push that merge
01:27 <luke-jr> open the file
01:28 <smoothice> ok
01:28 <smoothice> ok opened
01:28 <smoothice> How do I find the conflict?
01:30 <luke-jr> grep ========
01:31 <smoothice> <<<<<<< TREE
01:31 <smoothice> =======
01:31 <smoothice> >>>>>>> MERGE-SOURCE
01:32 <Lucifer> heya kamp
01:32 <Lucifer> GodTodd__: ping :)
01:35 <kamp> hey luci
01:35 <kamp> say, do you know who made the armagetron page on facebook?
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01:36 <cpayan> sigh
01:36 <cpayan> I can't remember the passwd for this one
01:37 <luke-jr> cpayan: which one?
01:37 <cpayan> The actual page
01:37 <cpayan> not the groups
01:37 <cpayan> I saw there are two sizable groups, but the page (with fans and all) is rather small
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01:48 <cpayan> beautiful
01:48 <cpayan> got my nickname
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01:59 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r862 Merge from mainline || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r866 ZONE_ALPHA_SERVER now only gets applied if no color at all a...
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02:05  * cpayan is reading the forum thread on revitalization. It seems as though armagetron needs a thorough cleaning, in code and image, before anything else can be done. Thoughts? Lucifer? oh, and hi fonkay :)
02:15 <Concord> smoothice: could I have admin in nw fortress for tomorrows ladle, I play in opening round there
02:15 <Concord> :)
02:16 <smoothice> Concord: sure... I gotta go compile 0.2.8 on my friend's server that I'm arbitrarily  using
02:16 <smoothice> since my vps cannot handle it
02:16 <smoothice> lol
02:16 <Concord> lol ok
02:16 <smoothice> please PM me your global id
02:16 <Concord> Concord@ct
02:16 <smoothice> k
02:17 <Concord> thynx
02:17 <Concord> ;)
02:18 <smoothice> Concord: I hope my friend doesn't get mad :)
02:18 <Concord> Lol! :D
02:18 <ct|kyle> heh
02:18 <smoothice> I asked him like a month ago
02:18 <smoothice> lol
02:18 <smoothice> he's the dude that hosts id tech racing
02:18 <smoothice> if you've seen it
02:18 <Concord> I have,
02:18 <smoothice> yeha
02:18 <Concord> never gone in tho
02:18 <Concord> :P
02:19 <smoothice> If he says no you're probably going to kill me
02:19 <smoothice> I'll manage I guess lol
02:20 <ct|kyle> we could put up a CT 3 LOL
02:23 <smoothice> frick
02:23 <smoothice> lolz
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02:29 <Concord> or you could just convert one of your df servers to fort for a couple hours ...
02:29 <ivantis2> or you could shut down all the servers
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02:40 <luke-jr> ]later tell zmanuel http://developer.download.nvidia.com/SDK/10/direct3d/Source/StencilRoutedKBuffer/doc/StencilRoutedKBuffer.pdf
02:40 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
02:40 <luke-jr> ]later tell zmanuel http://developer.nvidia.com/object/Interactive_Order_Transparency.html
02:40 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
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02:45 <luke-jr> #kick ivantis2
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02:45 <ivantis2> very unneccessary
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02:46 <luke-jr> CPAN imposter
02:46 <luke-jr> #kick CPAN
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02:47 <CPAN> im getting it dropped
02:47 <CPAN> for CPAN2 to use
02:47 <CPAN> noob
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02:52 <nsh22> hey
02:52 <nsh22> any1 up for dsome fort?
02:55 <smoothice> nsh22: hi
02:55 <nsh22> yo
02:55 <nsh22> how did tourny go today
02:55 <nsh22> btw im in fort cafe
02:56 <smoothice> I missed it
02:57 <nsh22> why?
02:57 <nsh22> nvm i wasnt there either :P
02:59 <nsh22> smoothice: wanna practise for ladle?
03:00 <smoothice> nsh22: doing zv2 sty right now port
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03:00 <nsh22> ah
03:01 <nsh22> smoothice: btw do you know why bye is no longer listyed as a clkan member?
03:01 <smoothice> :O
03:01 <smoothice> did he resign?
03:01 <nsh22> i dunno
03:01 <nsh22> but on the forums his name is in the user group, not he clan group
03:02 <nsh22> i shall look into this
03:02 <smoothice> yeah k
03:02 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r865 Xcode source files sort and zFlag header work || [armagetronad-v2sty] r864 Added zFlag to Xcode project || [armagetronad-v2sty] r863 reapplied zFlag after merge from mainline
03:03 <nsh22> ohhh its a globalk mod
03:03 <nsh22> my b
03:03 <nsh22> now i remember
03:03 <nsh22> hes our forum moderator :P
03:06 <smoothice> umm
03:07 <smoothice> global mods are black and so are users
03:12 <nsh22> ill change that
03:16 <nsh22> ]yandere
03:16 <ljrbot> nsh22: You're already playing a game on this network. You can only be in one at a time.
03:16 <nsh22> rly?
03:17 <smoothice> luke-jr: The constructor variables have to be declared in the header file. Should they be private or public?
03:19 <nsh22> ]yandere
03:19 <ljrbot> A yandere game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "]yandere" to join.
03:19 <nsh22> \o/
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03:20 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
03:21 <ljrbot> There aren't enough players to start a yandere game. Try again later.
03:25 <nsh22> o0
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03:27 <nsh22> #si fort
03:27 <@armabot> nsh22: Wild West  =Fortress Shootout=: Players (1/12): Spec Ops
03:28 <smoothice> luke-jr: ???
03:31 <nsh22> luke-jr: ping
03:32 <cpayan> la la
03:42 <nsh22> smoothice: do you know what the v1 and v2 zones are?
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03:46 <luke-jr> nsh22: ……………………………….. do you?
03:48 <nsh22> no, thats why i asking
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03:54 <nsh22> anyways, what is the v1 and v2 zones and what are their differnces/goals
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03:55 <niveus> hello :)
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03:59 <GodTodd> Lucifer, pong
04:08 <smoothice> luke-jr: How do I get the current team of a gCycle?
04:09 <smoothice> luke-jr: Do I need to get the ePlayer of the cycle to find its eTeam?
04:32 <nsh22> #night
04:32 <@armabot> Good night nsh22!
04:33 <smoothice> bye nsh22
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05:18 <tsrk> how much bandwidth does a server generally use?
05:24 <smoothice> tsrk: it depends on what MAX_OUT_RATE is set at
05:30 <tsrk> well, my real question is: would 5GB / month of bandwidth be enough?
05:32 <luke-jr> tsrk: I host servers.
05:32 <luke-jr> http://lightfoot.dashjr.org
05:32 <luke-jr> ☺
05:32 <tsrk> i'm currently paying $5 for a VDS w/ 5GB bandwidth
05:32 <luke-jr> tsrk: I know an empty-24/7 server uses about 100 MB/mo
05:33 <tsrk> i'd assume the players would use most of it though :P
05:33 <luke-jr> once you add players, it varies a lot
05:33 <ct|kyle> if you run 6 semi popular servers it gets into the 50-60 GB
05:33 <luke-jr> tsrk: my cheapest VPS plan is $11/mo (on special)
05:34 <smoothice> luke-jr: How do I get the current team of a gCycle?
05:34 <smoothice>  Do I need to get the ePlayer of the cycle to find its eTeam?
05:34 <tsrk> oh wow, 50gb, that'd be a lot too much :P
05:34 <tsrk> oh
05:34 <tsrk> 6
05:34 <luke-jr> smoothice: not sure
05:34 <tsrk> i missed that :P
05:34 <tsrk> still
05:34 <tsrk> 10gb
05:35 <luke-jr> tsrk: that $11/mo VPS I offer has 32 GB/mo transfer ☺
05:35 <smoothice> fsckvps.com
05:35 <tsrk> luke, nice
05:36 <tsrk> smoothice, i've looked @ that but they look unprofessional, where did you find out about them?
05:36 <tsrk> luke-jr, specs on that?
05:36 <luke-jr> tsrk: 128 MB RAM (burst to 256 MB), 5 GB disk space, 1 IP
05:37 <smoothice> tsrk: I use them
05:37 <smoothice> tsrk: but go with luke he's better
05:37 <tsrk> luke-jr, 128mb ram :S
05:37 <luke-jr> tsrk: you need more?
05:38 <tsrk> i thinks o
05:38  * luke-jr actually started his Arma hosting w/ 64 MB RAM in at least one case ☺
05:38 <tsrk> current one has 256
05:38 <tsrk> :O
05:38 <tsrk> 64mb?
05:38 <luke-jr> tsrk: My $12/mo plan has 256 MB RAM (512 MB burst), 8 GB disk, 64 GB transfer
05:38 <tsrk> only $1 more?
05:39 <luke-jr> for that plan, in USD
05:40 <tsrk> hmm
05:40 <tsrk> tempting
05:40 <tsrk> what can i get for $13? :P
05:40 <luke-jr> http://lightfoot.dashjr.org/?page=vps
05:40 <luke-jr> the next plan up is $15/mo -- 512 MB RAM (1 GB burst), 16 GB disk, 256 GB xfer
05:41 <tsrk> :O openvz
05:41 <tsrk> is that the shared kernel one?
05:41 <luke-jr> yeah
05:42 <tsrk> does it work well?
05:42 <luke-jr> very well
05:42 <tsrk> like better than vmware and stuff?
05:42 <luke-jr> no overhead at all
05:42 <tsrk> wow
05:42 <tsrk> nice
05:42 <luke-jr> that's why I use it over VMWare/Xen/etc
05:42 <tsrk> don't they all have to run the same OS though?
05:42 <tsrk> and
05:42 <luke-jr> same kernel only
05:42 <tsrk> is that also what vserver does?
05:42 <tsrk> ah
05:42 <luke-jr> the other parts of the OS can be different
05:42 <luke-jr> VServer is the same concept yeah
05:42 <luke-jr> OpenVZ is more mature though
05:42 <tsrk> but could you have like debian and redhat running the same kernel?
05:43 <luke-jr> right
05:43 <tsrk> wow nice
05:43 <tsrk> i've been messing around with vmware lately
05:43 <tsrk> it seems good for testing stuff
05:43 <luke-jr> Xen is a little better than VMWare on overhead
05:43 <tsrk> isn't there a risk with VMs interfering with each other and stuff though?
05:43 <luke-jr> but even then, there's a bit more lag ☹
05:43 <tsrk> through the kernel?
05:43 <luke-jr> only if there's a kernel bug
05:44 <tsrk> but normally they shouldn't?
05:44 <luke-jr> right
05:44 <tsrk> ah ok
05:46 <tsrk> can I run ubuntu server 8.10?
05:46 <tsrk> also, what's the connection speed?
05:46 <luke-jr> yeah
05:46 <luke-jr> generally 100 Mbit shared, but at least 10 Mbit
05:47 <tsrk> ok
05:48 <tsrk> wow that's tempting
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06:12 <smoothice> luke-jr: can you assist me for a moment?
06:13 <luke-jr> ?
06:14 <smoothice> ok
06:15 <smoothice> I'm actually making progress on this port
06:17 <smoothice> but
06:17 <luke-jr> but!
06:17 <smoothice> here's the problem
06:17 <smoothice> How do I get the current team of a gCycle?
06:17 <smoothice> because
06:18 <smoothice> I need to check in OnEnter
06:18 <smoothice> If the cycle entered is on the same team that owns the flag
06:18 <smoothice> and if so, return the flag
06:18 <luke-jr> there is no OnEnter
06:18 <smoothice> OnInside
06:18 <luke-jr> read gCycle.h
06:18 <luke-jr> ☺
06:18 <smoothice> K
06:18 <smoothice> k*
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06:38 <smoothice> luke-jr: The word "team" isn't in gCycle.h :(
06:38 <luke-jr> I said read, not grep.
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06:40 <smoothice> luke-jr: I don't see it either :/
06:42 <luke-jr> also, you want to use OnEntry for this probably
06:42 <smoothice> I don't see current team
06:42 <smoothice> crud
06:42 <smoothice> I don't see any methods related to getting information on a gCycle
06:46 <luke-jr> ePlayerNetID *Player()const
06:46 <luke-jr> that's on a parent class
06:47 <smoothice> huh?
06:47 <smoothice> what do I do with that
06:48 <luke-jr> which has CurrentTeam
06:48 <smoothice> I have a gCycle pointer called target
06:48 <luke-jr> (eTeam)
06:48 <luke-jr> eTeam * team = cycle->Player()->CurrentTeam();
06:48 <smoothice> Ah
06:48 <smoothice> easy
06:51 <luke-jr> night
06:51 <smoothice> ok
06:55 <smoothice> luke-jr: you still here]
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08:14 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r866 Header file completion of zFlag and implementation work
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11:10 <wrtlprnft> zmanuel, luke-jr: I didn't suggest it was a good idea, I just answered your question about compatibility
11:10 <wrtlprnft> #cfg min_players
11:10 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: MIN_PLAYERS: Minimum number of players (default: 4) || SP_MIN_PLAYERS: Minimum number of players in single player mode (default: 0) || SP_TEAM_MIN_PLAYERS: Minimum number of players per team in single player mode (default: 1) || TEAM_MIN_PLAYERS: Minimum number of players per team (default: 1)
11:10 <zmanuel> huh? aren't the defaults the other way round?
11:11 <wrtlprnft> hmm, indeed, that's weird
11:11  * zmanuel should put ljrbot on his ignore list. it's stalking him.
11:12 <wrtlprnft> you have to know that this is just a manipulated --doc that prints the current value (but without any special config so it should be the default in most cases)
11:12 <wrtlprnft> how's that?
11:13 <zmanuel> luke-jr is giving it messages to deliver to me
11:13 <zmanuel> and since my nick changes and I don't bother to reset it, I usually get them days later.
11:14 -!- zmanuel is now known as z-man
11:14 <wrtlprnft>  #later tell *z*man* works fine for me :-)
11:15 <z-man> #m luke-jr The stencil method is fucking shader intensive. We can't use that while still claiming to run on old hardware.
11:15 <@armabot> z-man: The operation succeeded.
11:15 <z-man> gaaa!
11:15 <BabyBug> language!!
11:15 <wrtlprnft> huh?
11:15 <epsy> could a GRUB floppy boot something from an usb mass storage device?
11:16 <z-man> Now I got another old message from ljrbot
11:16 <wrtlprnft> z-man: never claim intel driver upgrades can't hurt. At least on linux they do quite often
11:16 <z-man> heh :)
11:16 <epsy> you're on the TTM replacement update?
11:17 <epsy> with the TTM replacement never having being actually implemented by anything else than the driver itself, and the driver removing support for TTM ?
11:17 <epsy> that's a hell of an upgrade
11:17 <z-man> #m luke-jr and depth peeling was known to me. It requires a hell of a lot of rendering passes.
11:17 <@armabot> z-man: The operation succeeded.
11:19 <wrtlprnft> err, i don't even mean that. currently for any version > 2.4.3 i have to (pretend to) have an external monitor or it will flicker once in a while and crash after a few hours, requiring a reboot to get graphics again (although i can still ssh in)
11:20 <wrtlprnft> z-man: would it really be that hard to just do a bubblesort step on the transparent objects by distance from the camera once per frame?
11:21 <wrtlprnft> that should work as long as they don't intersect
11:29 <epsy> wrtlprnft, would you mind testing if you can crash your PC with warsow?
11:36 <z-man> no, it wouldn't be too hard, but if you actually modify the game object order in the array, it may break debug recordings once you move the camera around, which is the one change I want to allow while playing back a recording :)
11:37 <z-man> Sorting them in a separate list would work, of course.
11:37 <z-man> I'm constantly thinking about splitting the render part of objects from the game logic part.
11:37 <z-man> the game logic bit would still reside on the grid
11:38 <z-man> while the render part would be sorted into a quad/octreee and also a material tree, so they can get rendered with optimized/correct order.
11:38 <z-man> Plus, where they can be frustum-culled.
11:40 <wrtlprnft> MVC?
11:40 <Lucifer> GodTodd: pijg
11:40 <Lucifer> er
11:40 <Lucifer> ping
11:40 <wrtlprnft> epsy: would that require me to boot into windows?
11:40  * Lucifer has had a lot to drink
11:41  * Lucifer managed to get in a hot tub with complete stranger, totally naken
11:41 <Lucifer> er
11:41 <Lucifer> totalley naked
11:41 <Lucifer> obviously I've had too much to drink
11:43 <wrtlprnft> now that's the kind of thing i don't *need* to know :-P
11:43 <Lucifer> haha
11:43 <Lucifer> wwell,  it was fun
11:44 <Lucifer> it was a meetup taht I was led to belive waan mostly my divorce-support gorup, but turned out to be a little different
11:44 <Lucifer> plenty of wine, though
11:44 <Lucifer> although t he girl I thought I could fool around with got involved with somebody else
11:44 <PinkTomato> Quick Question: Anyone know if I will I need to upgrade my ladle server for tonight?
11:44 <Lucifer> apparently I've got a lot to learn about that stuff
11:49 <z-man> curse me for that boring stable relationship, I guess.
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11:50 <Lucifer> what weirded me out was random people that knew me
11:50 <Lucifer> that weiredeed me out a lot
11:50 <Lucifer> (of couse, they looked at my picuter on my meetup profile, but it still weirded me out)
11:56  * BabyBug looks shamefully upon Lucifer 8-)
11:56 <Lucifer> man, I deserve all yur shame
11:56 <Lucifer> how can I walk into a room full of women checking me out, and not get laid?
11:56 <BabyBug> too old? =P
11:57 <Lucifer> I wa sone of the youngest in the corwd
11:57 <Lucifer> most were 40+
11:57 <BabyBug> ew
11:57 <Lucifer> phucking pathetic
11:57 <Lucifer> I shouldn've gotten laid, it's just damned sad that I didn't
11:58 <BabyBug> more to the point though...How do you get naked in a hot tub and still not get laid? that's stranger :P
11:58 <Lucifer> 2:1 guy/girl ratio
11:58 <epsy> wrtlprnft, no
11:58 <Lucifer> the girl I talked into jumping end ended up across from me
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11:58 <Lucifer> I've had too much to drink, heh
11:59 <BabyBug> well that was stupid! =P
11:59 <Lucifer> hit me up with it in the mornming, when I can talk straight
11:59 <BabyBug> lol ^^
12:00 <Lucifer> IU had fun, though, that's what really matters
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12:00 <BabyBug> *raises eyebrow*
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12:10 <Lucifer> hopefully when I'm sober, I'll be able to examine the data and figure out how I didn't get laid
12:11 <BabyBug> examine the data? it's not a science experiment!
12:12 <Lucifer> although, I'm prepared to acknowledge that there's no logic to it, and therefore I may not be able to figure it out
12:12 <Lucifer> it is too a science experiment
12:12 <BabyBug> ...
12:12  * BabyBug slaps
12:12  * Lucifer dodges
12:12 <BabyBug> -sigh-
12:13 <Lucifer> see, at some point, I'm not sure when, I got magically put in charge of the hot tub conversation
12:13 <Lucifer> not sure how that happened, but I did my best with the role that was thrust upon me
12:14 <BabyBug> and your best was terrible no doubt =)
12:14 <Lucifer> anyway, I'm gonna roll up my last cigarette, smoke it, and then go to bed
12:14 <BabyBug> what?!
12:15 <BabyBug> I thought you were giving up?
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13:16 <wrtlprnft> #later tell *epsy* well, i only get about 5spf, but it didn't crash so far…
13:16 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
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13:52 <pavelo> Lacrymosa: it seems i will be able to play after all
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14:33 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/arma/?min=741
14:33 <wrtlprnft> finally i can play my own maps :-)
14:34 <Flex> i got 10-20fps when i tried
14:35 <wrtlprnft> well, the tronsector one gives me about 60fps when i turn the minimap off
14:36 <Concord> #si cafe
14:36 <@armabot> Concord: Fortress Café: Players (8/32): Concord, CRaZy B3eR, Lenco, Monkey.D.Luffy, Pez, prupixie, Virg <3, BaTTaL, waterglow
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14:37 <nsh22> hey
14:37 <Flex> Concord, so what has happened to the vcL team?
14:37 <nsh22> the ladle starts at 1:45p EST corrcect?
14:38 <Flex> correct
14:38 <nsh22> Flex: on the wiki it says they merged with nw
14:38 <Concord> flex you have a bye it seems
14:38 <nsh22> kk so ill be on here for 1 30 :P
14:38 <Flex> maybe we don't want a bye
14:38 <nsh22> well you get one anyways
14:38 <Flex> doesn't that call for a reshuffle?
14:38 <Flex> well i don't want one..
14:38 <nsh22> why not?
14:39 <Concord> flex, were not changing the board day of
14:39 <nsh22> lol
14:39 <Concord> that would be mayhem
14:39 <Flex> not really
14:40 <nsh22> #weather innisfil
14:40 <@armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Innisfil, Innisfil, Ontario is 13.3°F (8:40 AM EST on March 01, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: -7.6°F. Windchill: 14.0°F. Pressure: 30.27 in 1024.9 hPa (Rising).
14:40 <nsh22> couldnt you give somebody else a bye and replace that team with flex's?
14:40 <Concord> with the new teams, and the 128 players
14:40 <Concord> no way! :)
14:40 <nsh22> 128 players?
14:41 <nsh22> wd
14:41 <nsh22> :)
14:41 <Flex> give us tr/ct/x
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14:41 <nsh22> the bowl is looking more like a reality
14:41 <Flex> we'd love to play them first ;)
14:43 <Concord> Flex, its random, some one is not going to be happy, but it is fair
14:45 <pavelo> Flex: it would appear i can play tonight
14:45 <Flex> great
14:45 <Flex> we have 8 now
14:45 <Flex> join #kod
14:46 <nsh22> #NW
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14:50 <Lacrymosa> #kod
14:53 <nsh22> #later smoothice join ##wL
14:53 <nsh22> #help later
14:53 <@armabot> nsh22: Error: There is no command "later".
14:53 <nsh22> #help list
14:53 <Flex> try #m
14:53 <@armabot> nsh22: (list [--private] [<plugin>]) -- Lists the commands available in the given plugin. If no plugin is given, lists the public plugins available. If --private is given, lists the private plugins.
14:53 <nsh22> #m smoothice join ##wL
14:53 <@armabot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
14:53 <nsh22> ty flex :P
14:53 <Flex> np
15:03 <wrtlprnft> argh
15:03 <wrtlprnft> i hate gentoo sometimes
15:03 <wrtlprnft> who would want gimp without png support?
15:03 <joda_bot> wrtlprnft: :D
15:04 <joda_bot> wrtlprnft: gentoo teached me alot of linux stuff, but it's kind of tiresome to update :-)
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15:04 <wrtlprnft> do you think i'd be using gentoo if i didn't like it?
15:05 <wrtlprnft> it's just… use flags are great, but the defaults are just odd
15:06 <wrtlprnft> half of the games do build but fail miserably because sdl_image can't load png or jpg images, which just happens to be almost everything
15:06 <nsh22> gentoo doesnt support jpgs or pngs?
15:06 <nsh22> #help list private
15:06 <@armabot> nsh22: Error: There is no command "list private".
15:06 <pavelo> I'm pretty sure jpeg&png are on by default
15:07 <nsh22> #help list --private
15:07 <@armabot> nsh22: Error: There is no command "list private".
15:07 <wrtlprnft> well, they weren't for me
15:08 <pavelo> what profile are you using? server perhaps?
15:11 <wrtlprnft> default
15:11 <wrtlprnft> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 48 Jan 17 19:34 /etc/make.profile -> ../usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/x86/2008.0
15:12 <nsh22> if any1 wants me, just highlight :)
15:12  * nsh22 is away: 
15:14 <Concord> Flex, whats your server called atm?
15:14 <Flex> flex's server
15:15 <Flex> #flex
15:15 <Concord> I can't seem to find it on the list :P
15:15 <nsh22> how do i get chanserv to go to my channel?
15:15  * Concord is a noob
15:15 <nsh22> :P
15:15 <nsh22> acceptance is the first set to recovery XP
15:15 <nsh22> step*
15:15 <Flex> yes.. whatt's the point in a server if it likes to keep switching itself off
15:15 <Flex> how stupid
15:16 <pavelo> hmm... it seems they are off for the default profile
15:16 <Flex> try now Concord
15:16 <pavelo> maybe you should use the desktop profile
15:16 <Concord> success!
15:17 <Concord> with default settings ;)
15:17 <nsh22> Concord: did smooth give you the level you needed?
15:18 <Concord> yeah tanx :)
15:18 <nsh22> ok
15:18 <Concord> wups
15:26 <nsh22> #si fort
15:26 <@armabot> nsh22: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: Players (8/14): $_M0Ñ3Y, *_Centrurøide_§, ? ?Z?3?B?R?A? ?, FrEeToSk8bRd, hand, Key, LA PANTERA, urg
15:26 <nsh22> #si night fort
15:26 <@armabot> nsh22: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “night fort” at the moment, sorry.
15:27 <nsh22> #si night walkers centaral fortress
15:27 <@armabot> nsh22: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “night walkers centaral fortress” at the moment, sorry.
15:28 <nsh22> #roulette
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15:28 <nsh22> ...
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15:46 <nsh22> SMOOTH!
15:46 <nsh22> hai
15:47 <smoothice> nsh22: hi
15:48  * nsh22 is back (gone 00:36:10)
15:48 <smoothice> k
15:50 <nsh22> #weather innisfil
15:50 <@armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Innisfil, Innisfil, Ontario is 16.0°F (9:50 AM EST on March 01, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: -2.2°F. Windchill: 15.8°F. Pressure: 30.27 in 1024.9 hPa (Steady).
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15:52 <smoothice> luke-jr: http://rafb.net/p/fLbDAf67.html
15:57 <nsh22> smoothice: how did you get your ath.cx website?
15:57 <smoothice> nsh22: dyndns.com
15:58 <smoothice> It's just a dyndns host
15:58 <nsh22> so just get a dns?
15:58 <smoothice> pointing to an IP
15:58 <smoothice> yeah
15:58 <nsh22> it points to you r ip i take it?
15:59 <smoothice> yep
15:59 <nsh22> ill be back for 130
15:59 <smoothice> k
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16:00 <smoothice> ct|kyle: successful zones v2 sty build :D
16:02 <smoothice> z-man: Do you know what would be the best way to make a zones v2 CTF map?
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16:26 <fonkay> cpayan: Hey, ltnt.
16:27 <smoothice> luke-jr: I cannot get a flag to show after a compile and run :(
16:29 <cpayan> hey fonkay
16:29 <cpayan> what's ltnt?
16:29 <cpayan> long time no... talk?
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16:39 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r867 Header file stuff and successful build
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16:43 <smoothice> Concord: my friend agreeed
16:43 <smoothice> Concord: you're admin and it's up
16:43 <Concord> I saw :)
16:43 <ct|kyle> smoothice: so what sty components are working
16:43 <Concord> the server feels good too ;)
16:43 <Concord> thanks
16:45 <smoothice> ct|kyle: flag other than the fact that I A. don't have a real zones v2 ctf map and B I made a test one and it aborted with error "abort trap"
16:46 <ct|kyle> did you add stuff to gparser to read in the zones v2 flag stuff
16:46 <smoothice> ct|kyle: I think I made the map wrong
16:46 <smoothice> well
16:46 <Concord> this room is more crowded than when I left ;)
16:47 <smoothice> I didn't add it into gParser but at the end of zFlag.cpp I added static zZoneExtRegistration regFlag("flag", "", zFlagZone::create);
16:58 <smoothice> ct|kyle: It just occurred to me I never compiled with --enable-zonesv2
16:58 <smoothice> ct|kyle: -.-
17:05 <smoothice> ct|kyle: would you mind giving it a quick compile? I don't know how to set configure flags directly in Xcode
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17:12 <smoothice> #seen maclover201
17:12 <@armabot> smoothice: maclover201 was last seen in #armagetron 1 week, 6 days, 21 hours, 10 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <maclover201> Well, externs are really extern static
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17:15 <smoothice> #seen dlh
17:15 <@armabot> smoothice: dlh was last seen in #armagetron 1 day, 11 hours, 7 minutes, and 56 seconds ago: <dlh> oh, RemoveFromGame()
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17:26 <Concord> smoothice: he is ingame currently
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17:31 <smoothice> Concord: dlh?
17:31 <smoothice> #ls dlh
17:32 <@armabot> smoothice: timed out
17:32 <smoothice> Concord: ????
17:32 <Concord> he plays as free kill
17:32 <Concord> ...
17:32 <smoothice> :O
17:32 <smoothice> that's DLH?
17:32 <smoothice> #ls free_kill
17:33 <@armabot> smoothice: free kill seems to be on Crazy Tronners Ladle Fortress 1 right now.
17:33 <pikey> #lastseen then00b
17:33 <Flex> #ls Vanhayes
17:33 <@armabot> pikey: timed out
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17:33 <@armabot> Flex: timed out
17:40 <smoothice> #ls free_kill
17:40 <@armabot> smoothice: free kill has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Ladle Fortress 1 3 minutes ago.
17:41 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r868 Beginning to add language and console output stuff
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17:44 <fonkay> cpayan: yes
17:44 <cpayan> coo
17:44 <fonkay> i know :P
17:44 <fonkay> idn't it?
17:58 <joda_bot> fonkay: cpayan: Strange conversation ? :D
18:05 <cpayan> yep conversations can be a bit weird when neither person's there at the same time joda_bot
18:05 <cpayan> IRC tag fonkay's it!
18:05 <joda_bot> cpayan: what did you refer to then ? some armabot tell me later message ?
18:06 <joda_bot> or did you talk about that yesterday ? :D
18:06 <cpayan> ah yea
18:07 <cpayan> she told me ltnt
18:07 <cpayan> which, devoid of consonants, was a bit confusing, joda_bot
18:13 <ct|kyle> smoothice: still need me?
18:14 <smoothice> ct|kyle: nah I just cannot get a trunk  client to work well and luke-jr 's stuff isn't working which my stuff depends on
18:14 <ct|kyle> ah
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18:19 <Concord> hoi Ashitaka
18:24 <epsy> wrtlprnft, are there probems with marvin? it's taking a lot of time to connect on ssh
18:24 <epsy> wrtlprnft, and did you try it with anything else than instagib?
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18:30 <Corn1> #time
18:30 <@armabot> Corn1: 06:30 PM, March 01, 2009
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18:34 <epsy> z-man, what settings do you use for ladle?
18:34 <z-man> The one by durka, plus shuffling for everyone.
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18:42 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r869 Another language add
18:42 <epsy> @aawikis ndescriptors
18:42 <teabot> epsy: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=List_of_nDescriptors - List of nDescriptors - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
18:43 <epsy> what is descriptor 12 ?
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18:47 <z-man> version override.
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18:48 <z-man> Sent as first mesage in a ping packet, for example, to tell the receiver the version of the sender.
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18:52 <Concord> #armagetron.tourneys
18:53 <joda_bot> Concord: ?
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19:00  * nsh22 is here!
19:00 <Concord> ct|kyle is ct ladle 1 available if we need it
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19:02 <Concord> P4 is ct ladle 1 available if we need it?
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19:08 <epsy> #time
19:08 <@armabot> epsy: 07:08 PM, March 01, 2009
19:09 <epsy> #gmtime
19:09 <epsy> gah
19:09 <epsy> #apropos time
19:09 <@armabot> epsy: ctime and time
19:13 <freak0o> flex: I'm at the server,,, promote whenever u like,, I'm afk for about 20 minutes though
19:14 <Flex> ok, i'll do it soon
19:14 <freak0o> To all:   If a ladle server crashes etc...
19:14 <freak0o> I set a server called  :  LADLE SERVER (BACKUP) online
19:14 <freak0o> just ask for admin if its needed
19:16 <Concord> ok
19:16 <Concord> thats nice freak
19:16 <pikey> #ls then00b
19:17 <@armabot> pikey: timed out
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19:20 <Concord> G5, should we use freakos, smooth's is lagging weirdly
19:22 <Concord> G5, sunny, can we use Z-Man's Ladle Backup
19:22 <epsy> now, please avoid using bots to list players on public channels, this applies to both #armagetron and #armagetron.tourneys
19:22 <epsy> (Ladle)
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19:23 <pruWord> hi all
19:24 <pruWord> just here to tell you we can play :P
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19:24 <Concord> G5?
19:25 <G5> Sure. I would prefer it
19:25 <Concord> ok
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19:25 <Concord> z-man could i please get team leader status on z-mans ladle back up
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19:27 <Concord> z-man could i please get team leader status on z-mans ladle back up
19:27 <z-man> your ID being?
19:27 <Concord> Concord@ct
19:27 <Concord> thanks
19:28 <nsh22> anybody from vcl in here>?
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19:29 <sunny> concord?
19:29 <Concord> yeah?
19:29 <sunny> new server?
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19:29 <Concord> we're both there
19:29 <sunny> yea :p
19:29 <sunny> the others told it me
19:29 <sunny> ^^
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19:37 <nsh22> hey all
19:38 <sinewav> hi
19:38 <epsy> Please avoid using bots on public channels to list players (Ladle). This applies to both #armagetron and #armagetron.tourneys . Use /query teabot or /query armabot instead.
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19:44 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r875 One file moved and one deleted....
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19:46 <Flex> is Ladle 18 settings same as the 19th settings?
19:47 <freak0o> flex can u unban me?
19:47 <Flex> urm k
19:47 <freak0o> wrong command got me kicked
19:47 <Flex> lol
19:47 <Flex> what command?
19:47 <freak0o> :)
19:47 <freak0o> kick -_-
19:47 <freak0o> wrong user number
19:47 <Flex> user/ip
19:48 <Flex> try now
19:48 <freak0o> freako /    84.24.142.116
19:48 <freak0o> still banned
19:49 <Flex> try now?
19:49 <freak0o> yup, ty
19:49 <epsy> he wanted to give himself 100 points
19:49 <dlh> Ladle subculture running: generalconsumption.org, port 4533
19:50 <epsy> but typed kick freak0o -100
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19:56 <freak0o> nice 2 vs 8
19:56 <epsy> good luck
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19:57 <freak0o> we torped the first 4 rounds lol
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20:05 <nsh22> nw lost
20:05 <nsh22> wl*
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20:06 <freak0o> dev null also lost
20:07 <nsh22> is this the very last ladle?
20:07 <freak0o> arrow vs Dev/Null  2-0
20:07 <nsh22> oh yeah, wL vs Twisted Rats
20:07 <nsh22> TR 2-0 wL
20:07 <smoothice> nsh22: #armagetron-tourneys
20:09 <freak0o> lol
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20:09 <freak0o> Dev/Null is annoyed lol
20:09 <nsh22> lol
20:10 <freak0o> they find it annoying that we hole when its 8 vs 2
20:10 <freak0o> we just want to win fast. so that we could train -_-
20:10 <nsh22> who has the 2?
20:10 <freak0o> dev null...
20:10 <nsh22> if it was 8 holing against 2 thats just plain bad ettiet
20:11 <freak0o> its bad ettiquete to show up with 2...
20:11 <nsh22> meh
20:13 <luke-jr> lulz
20:13 <nsh22> any1 up for ladle yandere?
20:14 <luke-jr> z-man: don't we already have optional stuff that requires hw accel? O.o
20:14 <nsh22> ]yandere
20:14 <ljrbot> A yandere game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "]yandere" to join.
20:14  * nsh22 is addicted
20:14 <luke-jr> smoothice: my stuff works fine :p
20:14 <freak0o> yandere?
20:15 <freak0o> whats that ?
20:15 <nsh22> type ]yandere
20:15 <nsh22> a game
20:15 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
20:15 <nsh22> ]yandere extend
20:15 <ljrbot> Added another waiting extension.
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20:16 <nsh22> freako, play
20:16 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
20:16 <nsh22> ]yandere extend
20:16 <ljrbot> Added another waiting extension.
20:16 <luke-jr> nsh22: ladle yandere? O.o
20:16 <luke-jr> ]yandere end
20:16 <ljrbot> The yandere game game has been forced to end.
20:16 <luke-jr> ]yandere start theme=twg
20:16 <nsh22> even better
20:17 <ljrbot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "]yandere" to join.
20:17 <freak0o> flex: ? u got ur team rdy?
20:17 <nsh22> ]yandere
20:17 <Flex> yes, we're at my server.. but we agree all to move to z-mans?
20:17 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
20:17 <nsh22> ]yandere extend
20:17 <ljrbot> Added another waiting extension.
20:18 <luke-jr> nsh22: maybe I should send it to the Ladle server :D
20:18 <nsh22> o0
20:18 <nsh22> which one?
20:18 <freak0o> I agree
20:18 <nsh22> luke-jr: which server is it?
20:18 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
20:18 <freak0o> is it empty?
20:18 <nsh22> i wanna see this in action on tron
20:18 <nsh22> ]yandere extend
20:18 <ljrbot> Added another waiting extension.
20:19 <luke-jr> nsh22: no idea
20:19 <nsh22> oh...
20:19 <nsh22> is there a "ladle lounge" server?
20:19 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
20:19 <nsh22> and can you send the gamne to specific servers?
20:20 <luke-jr> nsh22: yeah
20:20 <luke-jr> ]yandere extend
20:20 <ljrbot> Added another waiting extension.
20:20 <z-man> luke-jr: yes, there's the headlights. But they're quite isolated and even need to be compiled in optionally. Quite a different caliber :)
20:20 <luke-jr> z-man: I thought we had bouncing 1s and 0s
20:20 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
20:20 <Flex> no it's not free freak0o
20:20 <nsh22> why dont ou play luke?
20:20 <Flex> so just come to my server
20:21 <freak0o> we play at urs?
20:21 <Flex> yes
20:21 <Flex> come
20:21 <freak0o> it times-out like crazy there
20:21 <Flex> well, we can't do much
20:21 <Flex> unless there's a server we can use
20:21 <freak0o> maybe we can use mine
20:21 <ljrbot> There aren't enough players to start the Worm Game. Try again later.
20:21 <nsh22> smooths?
20:21 <Flex> and that's absed?
20:21 <Flex> based
20:22 <freak0o> based?
20:22 <Flex> in which country
20:22 <Flex> urm i think CT Ladle 2 is empty
20:22 <freak0o> london host by luke-jr
20:22 <Flex> same host as mine freako..
20:22 <freak0o> i dont want to play at CT2... it kicked 4 of my people last ladle
20:22 <freak0o> then urs...
20:22 <Flex> Any CT Ladle 2 admin here?
20:23 <smoothice> ct|kyle is
20:23 <freak0o> lol we refuse to play at CT2 :)
20:23 <Flex> why?
20:23 <Flex> why did it kick?
20:23 <freak0o> freak0o i dont want to play at CT2... it kicked 4 of my people last ladle  /// It auto kicks olive
20:24 <Flex> fine
20:24 <Flex> just come to mine then
20:24 <luke-jr> >_<
20:24 <freak0o> netobject errors for him every 2 rounds
20:24 <luke-jr> nsh22: Yandere played in #anime right now fyi
20:25 <nsh22> ty luke
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20:25 <hoop2> .
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20:26 <Concord> feak0o did your opponent show up?
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20:26 <luke-jr> hoop fails
20:26 <freak0o> only 2 people
20:27 <Concord> ok
20:27 <Concord> did you play or forfeit?
20:27 <freak0o> we did play
20:27 <freak0o> but holed every round.....
20:27 <Concord> ok
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20:35 <Concord> I need admin in ct ladle 2
20:36 <Concord> ct|kyle
20:37 <ct|kyle> Concord: lalde 1 you mean?
20:37 <Concord> where ID and PRu are
20:37 <Concord> yeah
20:38 <ct|kyle> Concord: that all
20:38 <Concord> thy
20:38 <Concord> yes
20:38 <ct|kyle> ok
20:39 <ct|kyle> I'll try to remember to add you to the list
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20:42 <Concord> mayhem
20:42 <Concord> ID v pru
20:42 <Concord> pru thought it was best of 1
20:42 <Concord> and left
20:42 <Concord> ID then though oh we lot
20:42 <Concord> *lost
20:42 <Concord> and left
20:43 <nsh22> lol
20:43 <ct|kyle> I'm not sure what is wrong with ladle 1
20:44 <ct|kyle> 2*
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20:57 <nsh22> wow, 0.2.8.3beta2 is laggingh my comp, just like the alphas
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20:58 <ct|kyle> nsh22: lag is a myth it is only in your mind
20:58 <nsh22> when my music suddenly plays slower?
20:58 <cpayan> heh ct|kyle
20:59 <nsh22> my music honestly slows down when i bring the client up
20:59 <cpayan> maybe it's the remix :)
20:59 <cpayan> sorry, i can't help
20:59 <nsh22> no
21:00 <Concord> idk
21:01 <nsh22> ...
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21:04 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9089 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. MacOS/Armagetron Advanced.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj): Daniel Lee Harple: One file moved and one deleted.
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21:08 <Concord> epsy any luck?
21:12 <Flex> kod 2 - 0 arrow
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21:13 <freako> KOD vs ARROW  2 - 0
21:13 <Flex> freako
21:13 <Flex> talk to Lucifer
21:13 <Flex> oops
21:13 <Flex> luke-jr
21:14 <freako> damned... that we fucked that last roiund :P
21:14 <freako> 5 vs 1,,, 96 - 88 in front xD
21:14 <freako> and we suicided and lost -_-
21:15 <freako> :P
21:16 <Lizmatic> gg arrow
21:16 <akira_arma> man we didnt you hole freako?
21:16 <akira_arma> why*
21:16 <akira_arma> you had one time 3:1
21:16 <akira_arma> and the other 5:1
21:16 <freako> my team is only sumo players
21:16 <akira_arma> lol
21:16 <Lizmatic> then why make a clan with only sumo players
21:16 <freako> because were advancing
21:16  * Lizmatic scratches her head
21:16 <freako> nest ladle u see :)
21:16 <freako> next*
21:16 <Lizmatic> ok :P
21:17 <akira_arma> well when we warmed uo you were pretty done for :)
21:17 <freako> last ladle we made it to 100= 40   100- 30 or so
21:17 <akira_arma> up*
21:17 <Flex> freako, we played really bad
21:17 <freako> we also :/
21:17 <Flex> i'd say my expected team performance was second round
21:17 <freako> our great attacker wasnt there :/
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21:18 <freako> but u just were far better + more xperience ofcourse :)
21:18 <akira_arma> who won ct vs tr?
21:20 <Flex> CT
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21:20 <epsy> Concord, still waiting
21:21 <epsy> they are at 1-1 somewhere after 42-42
21:21 <Concord> its 80-60 in 3rd match
21:21 <Concord> epsy: slowest matches ever
21:21 <sinewav> keep the play-by-play coming
21:21 <Concord> they both suck
21:21 <Concord> 82-66
21:22 <Concord> 84-68
21:22 <Concord> 86
21:22 <Concord> 88
21:22 <Concord> id defending 1v1
21:22 <Concord> 96-68
21:23 <epsy> for who?
21:23 <nsh22> the ladle settings arent working on my server (dpont worry its not for ladle, just for me)
21:23 <Concord> 96-68 id
21:23 <Concord> 98
21:24 <Concord> 100
21:24 <Concord> id wins 2-1
21:24 <akira_arma> vs?
21:24 <akira_arma> concord
21:24 <akira_arma> id vs ?
21:24 <epsy> pru
21:24 <Concord> pru
21:24 <akira_arma> ah
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21:29 <JJBean> what's the channel for watching the ladle?
21:30 <epsy> see topic
21:30 <nsh22> #armagetron.tournys
21:31 <arrow> #si cheers
21:31 <@armabot> arrow: [] Cheers! [] The friendly server.: Players (2/12): CDagrip, Player 1
21:32 <noob13> !cheers
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21:41 <@armabot> lpbugs: [336367] Code doesn't compile with RESPAWN_HACK enabled on trunk <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/336367>
21:41 <nsh22> luke-jr: ummm when i try to play inly one map on my server, it goes to some anonamous map (ima ssuming it the default) and doesnt leave it. it says it chages that map but it doesnt...
21:43 <nsh22> any suggestions?
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21:46 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r870 merge from mainline
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21:48 <Lizmatic> koD 96-86 CT
21:48 <Lizmatic> ..
21:48 <Lizmatic> no, the other way around
21:50 <Concord> ty
21:50 <dlh> kod 0 - 1 ct
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21:57 <Corn1> hey x ladle fort is full so unless you got a new admin i cant get in
21:59  * nsh22 fixed the problem
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22:01 <Lizmatic> KoD 1-1 CT
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22:18 <nsh22> luke-jr: on your servers, for the map rotator, does that have a multi mode function in which you can choose which map and settings you want?
22:19 <Lizmatic> KoD beat CT!
22:19 <Vanhayes> grats
22:19 <nsh22> wd to kod
22:20 <Vanhayes> who else is in the finals?
22:20 <Lizmatic> no idea
22:20 <Lizmatic> x?
22:20 <MaZuffeR> x or plus
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22:21 <nsh22> yo
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22:35 <nsh22> #m smoothice: what do you think about a multimode server instead of my ctfs server
22:35 <@armabot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
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22:43 <@armabot> lpbugs: [336397] trunk segfaults when timing out from a server <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/336397>
22:47 <BabyBug> FIX! :@
22:54 <Flex> #fuck you
22:54 <Flex> #armabot sucks
22:54 <Vanhayes> #eliza Go fuck yourself
22:54 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Are you afraid of sex?
22:54 <Flex> #eliza Go fuck yourself
22:55 <Vanhayes> #eliza you caught me
22:55 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Why do you say i caught you?
22:55 <Vanhayes> #eliza talk to Flex
22:55 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Why do you say talk to flex?
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23:53 <Concord> congrats
23:53 <akira_arma> concord: who was center ?
23:53 <epsy> Plus used hacks ;)
23:53 <Concord> um
23:54 <Concord> theodore roosevelt
23:54 <akira_arma> 3750 = ?
23:54 <epsy> who was redwood?
23:54 <akira_arma> whats with that silly secrecy
23:54 <Concord> adlai stevenson
23:54 <akira_arma> --
23:55 <Flex> Concord
23:56 <Flex> i don't like the fact that one of your members seems to keep harrasing someone
23:56 <Flex> and to do it in the ladle again
23:56 <Your_mom_arma> mind games is boring lets play hungry hungry hippos
23:56 <Flex> did you see that Concord?
23:56 <epsy> Flex, ms_nus ?
23:57 <Concord> its not "my player"
23:57 <epsy> at least reveal who it is so we can deal with him directly
23:58 <Lizmatic> Concord isn't plus mainly your team?
23:58 <Flex> yes.. it's totally not acceptable.. i didn't see as there was too much spam and stuff
23:58 <Concord> its not my team
23:58 <Lizmatic> ok, anyway
23:58 <Flex> who's team is it?
23:58 <guru3> this arcade machien and the train thing... that sort of stuff should go on the site
23:58 <Lizmatic> next time theyre going to get kicked.
23:58 <Flex> are you not in the team? it counts as being in your team
23:59 <epsy> well, you started the wiki page Concord

Log from 2009-03-02:
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00:00 <Lizmatic> So who's team is it? o_O
00:01 <epsy> I take it as it is owned by everyone who's part of it
00:01 <Flex> not really concerned with who created it..
00:01 <epsy> so that includes Concord ..
00:02 <Lizmatic> Yeah, yet nobody wants to take responsibility
00:02 <Flex> one of them is I Am/teen
00:02 <Flex> that's obvious
00:02 <Concord> God gave man free will
00:02 <epsy> I guess so
00:02 <Lizmatic> okay, I'll start insulting back next time
00:02 <epsy> forgot about I am
00:02 <Flex> no Lizmatic
00:02 <Lizmatic> And I'm the insulting queen so you won't win.
00:02 <epsy> and he was indeed holy fucking annoying
00:05 <Concord> I had a fun time
00:06 <Concord> and if you were unable to, turn of the computer and go play croquet
00:06 <epsy> I silenced him
00:06 <epsy> it took me two rounds and two deaths
00:07 <Flex> who?
00:07 <Your_mom_arma> drama drama drama
00:07 <epsy> ms_nus
00:07 <epsy> the guy who was center and froze
00:08 <epsy> so I'd like to know who what that guy
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00:13 <guru3> who are the people that actually do work?
00:13 <epsy> like, workers?
00:13 <guru3> active developers
00:13 <guru3> like you
00:13 <guru3> wrtl
00:14 <epsy> ah, on arma
00:14 <epsy> z-man is pretty active
00:14 <epsy> dlh too
00:14 <guru3> people not admin
00:14 <epsy> I haven't pushed much revisions for my part
00:14 <epsy> why?
00:15 <guru3> drum roll please
00:15 <epsy> * mately
00:15 <epsy> grm, *lately
00:15 <epsy> *drum roll*
00:15 <guru3> i'm updating the website
00:15 <epsy> *tada*
00:15 <epsy> :>
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00:16 <guru3> yeah, shock moment i know
00:16 <Concord> what would you have me do?
00:17 <Lizmatic> Epsy, they still aren't saying who are they are?
00:17 <nsh22> hey who won?
00:17 <Lizmatic> I WON
00:17 <Lizmatic> err
00:17 <Lizmatic> I mean KoD
00:17 <nsh22> lol
00:17 <epsy> lol liz
00:17 <nsh22> grazt to Kod
00:17 <epsy> nsh22, did server run fine?
00:17 <nsh22> which one?
00:17 <epsy> we had a messed up config when we entered
00:17 <epsy> xfort
00:17 <nsh22> oh yeah it was fine
00:17 <epsy> but it's the second time it happens
00:18 <epsy> so I don't blame you
00:18 <nsh22> check the logs and see who messed it up
00:18 <guru3> epsy: is kyle an official developer?
00:18 <epsy> guru3, no
00:18 <nsh22> hes a hack maker (i guess)
00:18 <epsy> guru3, https://launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/+members
00:18 <guru3> i was wondering if there was something like that
00:18 <nsh22> whoos yarrt?
00:19  * epsy wonders
00:19 <nsh22> lol luke isnt approved
00:19 <nsh22> tank, approve him lol
00:19 <epsy> he's not a dev anymore
00:19 <nsh22> no?
00:19 <epsy> if you want more info, dig the forums
00:19 <nsh22> since when?
00:20 <epsy> do I need to repeat ? :)
00:20 <nsh22> recent or old?
00:20 <epsy> mid
00:20 <nsh22> ...
00:20 <epsy> one year ago or so
00:20 <nsh22> oh
00:21 <nsh22> is there a blatent topic or do i actually have to searcg
00:21 <epsy> duuuh
00:21 <nsh22> duh what?
00:21 <nsh22> which one
00:23 <guru3> "smohly"
00:23 <guru3> that typo has been on the site at least 3 years
00:23 <epsy> what was it meant to be?
00:23 <guru3> smoothely :<
00:23 <epsy> haha
00:23  * epsy can't keep himself from laughing :>
00:24 <guru3> i can't either almost
00:24 <guru3> but it's either laugh or cry
00:24 <guru3> so i'll laugh
00:24 <nsh22> any1 care to explain what a troll is to me (i have a generic idea)
00:24 <epsy> @wp troll
00:24 <guru3> large mythical creature with club
00:24 <epsy> #wiki troll
00:25 <epsy> @g site:en.wikipedia.org troll
00:25 <teabot> epsy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll - Troll (Internet) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
00:25 <nsh22> ty
00:25 <epsy> gfty would have been useful here
00:26 <nsh22> oh i know
00:26 <nsh22> but thx anyway
00:26 <nsh22> now i know what lucifer is!
00:27 <epsy> lol, that sounded like a 7 year old child ^^
00:27 <epsy> (no offense)
00:27 <nsh22> meh
00:27 <nsh22> im reading about how lucifer is a self described troll
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00:34 <@armabot> armagetronad: guru3 * r9090 /www/mainsite/ (about.php archive.php contacts.php downloads.php index.php): site updates
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00:35 <guru3> sinewav: congratulations! you've made the news!
00:35 <sinewav> Say what?
00:35 <nsh22> ???
00:35 <guru3> sinewav: congratulations! you've made the news!
00:35 <sinewav> haha
00:35 <sinewav> what do you mean?
00:35 <nsh22> why is sine in the news?
00:35 <guru3> sinewav made an awesome moviepack
00:35 <nsh22> the wild west one?
00:36 <guru3> no
00:36 <guru3> the train one!
00:36 <nsh22> the wild west one....
00:36 <sinewav> oh yeah, that's some crazy work you guys are doing. :)
00:36 <guru3> that's probably the coolest thing i've ever seen
00:36 <guru3> well
00:36 <guru3> ok, not _the_ coolest
00:36 <guru3> but i really like it
00:36 <guru3> so it made the news
00:36 <guru3> the type of thing which i shall try and do more of
00:36 <sinewav> thanks, it's like a whole different game
00:37 <guru3> dlh's video really shows it off
00:37 <epsy> about > Developement is still slightly outdated
00:37 <sinewav> yeah, it looks totaly wild with the texture following to cycle
00:37 <epsy> what you can include:
00:37 <epsy>  * authentication
00:38 <guru3> that's already in 0.2.8.3
00:38 <guru3> (i think)
00:38 <guru3> protobuf would be a bit complex to explain
00:38 <epsy> yeah, but that still belongs to developement since .2.8.3 is beta
00:38 <nsh22> dlh made a vid?
00:38 <guru3> yeah
00:38 <nsh22> where is it?
00:38 <epsy> just say protocol reformat
00:38 <guru3> check the news!
00:38 <epsy> also cockpits, autocompletition, new font engine
00:39 <guru3> i'll save that for next week
00:39 <guru3> and make it look like we're getting stuff done super fast
00:39 <epsy> come on, it's one paragraph :<
00:39 <dlh> Jonathan made the video, actually
00:39 <guru3> shit
00:39 <Your_mom_arma> guru3: brilliant
00:39 <guru3> *phew* wrote the write thing in the news
00:39 <guru3> *right
00:40 <guru3> don't know why i keep thinking dlh
00:40 <epsy> guru3, https://launchpad.net/armagetronad
00:40 <sinewav> "sinewav came up with the rather brilliant idea" ;)
00:40 <epsy> guru3, there's also this (Top contriutors)
00:40 <guru3> it's on the contacts apge :)
00:41 <epsy> but I'm not sure if it really reflects activity
00:41 <guru3> no it's not
00:41 <guru3> it's on the about page
00:41 <epsy> ie. zman is more active than me currently
00:41 <guru3> ah, now i know why i kept thinkign dlh
00:41 <guru3> dlh, you've been registered as an evil minion
00:41 <dlh> \o/
00:42 <nsh22> o0
00:42 <epsy> heh, i've got 3 karma points outside arma
00:42 <epsy> oh wait
00:42 <epsy> 103, heh
00:42 <sinewav> yay
00:42 <nsh22> fack
00:43 <nsh22> the movie wont play in windows media player :(
00:43 <epsy> try vlc instead
00:43 <epsy> if you're using windows
00:43 <guru3> need to gunzip it
00:43 <epsy> because WMP is kinda not a good movie player ;)
00:43 <sinewav> vlc ftw dude
00:43 <dlh> perhaps there should be a page on the main site about how to contribute. Maybe point to the wiki. Also describe how to report bugs
00:44 <nsh22> guru3: ... im dumb, but not that bad...
00:44 <nsh22> :P
00:44 <nsh22> or maybe i am
00:44 <guru3> epsy: authetnication and protobuf
00:44 <guru3> cockpits
00:44 <guru3> what else?
00:44 <epsy> FONTS
00:44 <guru3> ah yes
00:45 <cpayan> fonts?
00:45 <guru3> true type
00:45 <epsy> bitmap fonts -> true type
00:45 <cpayan> what about them, I just got here
00:45 <epsy> that's a hell of a change
00:45 <cpayan> ah, in the game?
00:45 <epsy> you see the 0.2.8 font?
00:45 <epsy> yes
00:45 <epsy> looks all crap
00:45 <epsy> it's arranged on trunk
00:46 <epsy> and can now handle truetype fonts
00:46 <nsh22> is this the right url
00:46 <nsh22> http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
00:46 <cpayan> that's interesting
00:46 <epsy> yes
00:46 <cpayan> yea it is nsh22
00:46 <cpayan> Which fonts do you plan on using?
00:47 <epsy> it has it's own
00:47 <cpayan> ah, ok
00:47 <epsy> for my part I use neuropol which you can find on dafont
00:47 <nsh22> meh i cant be bothered
00:47 <cpayan> that one's pretty sweet
00:47 <epsy> nsh22, it has all the codecs included
00:47 <cpayan> very cyberpunk
00:47 <epsy> nsh22, you won't have to bother anymore :)
00:48 <epsy> hehe
00:48 <cpayan> nsh22, get vlc, it pretty much runs every single piece of media you have
00:48 <epsy> but mplayer still does better :>
00:48 <cpayan> nah
00:48 <cpayan> I like vlc better
00:48 <epsy> mplayer is _the_ unbeatable :d
00:48 <nsh22> mplayer
00:48 <nsh22> ?
00:48 <epsy> nsh22, it would be difficult to use on windows
00:48 <cpayan> the Neuropol "z" character might be a bit weird, don't you think?
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00:49 <cpayan> mplayer doesn't have a windows port, does it?
00:49 <guru3> it does
00:49 <guru3> but it's hard to use
00:49 <epsy> I don't recall having problems with it
00:49 <guru3> for normal people
00:49 <@armabot> armagetronad: guru3 * r9091 /www/mainsite/ (about.php contacts.php): more development information. hope this doesn't get out of date too fast
00:49 <epsy> only problem is that unlike the default font it is of free width
00:49 <guru3> epsy, i've spewed now
00:49 <epsy> seen that
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00:49 <epsy> :P
00:50 <cpayan> is that a problem?
00:50 <guru3> can't think of anything else to add
00:50 <nsh22> any1 care to explain v1 and v2 to me?
00:50 <guru3> shapes
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00:50 <guru3> (if you're referring to zones)
00:50 <epsy> The (hopefully) final stable 0.2.8.x release is now in beta testing.
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00:50 <nsh22> yes i am
00:50 <epsy> shouldn't that be 0.2.8.3 ?
00:51 <nsh22> i want to do a wiki on it (unless there is one already
00:51 <guru3> i would have written that, ahd we not said 0.2.8.2 was going to be the final 0.2.8.x series release
00:51 <guru3> but we feature creeped to 0.2.8.3
00:52 <cpayan> i remember that!
00:52 <nsh22> THATS FUCKING EPIC!!!!
00:52 <cpayan> ... just sayin
00:52 <epsy> nsh22, what's so epic?
00:52 <nsh22> TRAINS!
00:52 <cpayan> either my memory, or VLC
00:52 <epsy> ah yeah, the epic trains :>
00:53 <nsh22> now if that was in arma3d...
00:53 <epsy> flying epic trains lmao
00:53 <nsh22> and if there was a working windows build....
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00:53 <nsh22> and if i had a million dollars....if i had a million dollars
00:53 <epsy> flying epic trains on windows
00:53 <epsy> er
00:54  * nsh22 sings the song by bnr
00:54 <guru3> well, let's hope something cool happens next week
00:54 <guru3> so that i can post news again
00:54 <nsh22> i go to france in april, you can put that in the news lol
00:55 <nsh22> better hide epsy
00:55 <guru3> April 2nd, 2009
00:55 <nsh22> no, 4th
00:55 <guru3> nsh22 goes to France, thank god. Silence at last! ;)
00:55 <nsh22> its only a 9 day trip :P sry
00:55 <guru3> ><
00:55 <nsh22> ill find internet to bug you with
00:56 <nsh22> :D
00:56 <nsh22> and ill /away just for epsy
00:56 <epsy> I don't mind using away, that's fine
00:56 <epsy> and good, even
00:56 <epsy> just, no useless messages nobody cares about
00:57 <epsy> guru3, .2.8.3 on april 1st ;)
00:57 <nsh22> oh ill add one of those too
00:57 <guru3> lol
00:57 <nsh22> april 2nd is 0.2.8.3 release?
00:57 <guru3> epsy: dev forum
00:57 <epsy> you still didn't add me
00:57 <epsy> lol :<
00:57 <guru3> crud
00:58 <guru3> done
00:58 <nsh22> i really want to learn a programming language (othe han java)
00:59 <guru3> i started with basic
00:59 <guru3> then did java
00:59 <guru3> then cpp
00:59 <guru3> then c
00:59 <guru3> and php in there somewhere
00:59 <guru3> then eventually understood oop
00:59 <guru3> somehow magically learned databases too
00:59 <guru3> rather quite odd how all of a sudden you know how to do them
00:59 <nsh22> o0
01:00 <nsh22> ...
01:00 <epsy> guru3, thanks, pretty much one year after actually entering the team hehe
01:00 <guru3> sorry :(
01:00 <guru3> evil minion #2
01:00 <nsh22> im starting with java (in school) and learning c++ on my own (thx to epsy, although i havent done anything with the tut for a good month now)
01:00 <epsy> hehe
01:00 <epsy> cplusplus.com ?
01:00 <guru3> dlh is #1 an #3 is wrtlprnft
01:00 <nsh22> where am i
01:01 <guru3> going in alphabetical order
01:01 <nsh22> epsy; yeah
01:01 <guru3> nsh22, you're not an evil minion
01:01 <nsh22> aw ok
01:01 <epsy> guru3, ah, poor wrtl
01:02 <guru3> could change is name to artlprnft
01:02 <guru3> no one'd be any the wiser
01:03 <epsy> but
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01:03 <epsy> but
01:03 <epsy> that's a vowel
01:03 <cpayan> brtlprnft
01:03 <epsy> :>
01:03 <cpayan> am i the only one that pronounces it wer-til-per-nift
01:04 <nsh22> no
01:04 <cpayan> phew
01:04 <epsy> I usually just spell it
01:04 <nsh22> i do it too
01:04 <guru3> i do too
01:04 <nsh22> wertlpernft
01:04 <cpayan> well i hear it in my head when i read it
01:04 <guru3> pretty amazing that i even memorized it
01:04 <epsy> now who does what?
01:04 <nsh22> syou spell the enitre thing?
01:05 <epsy> yes
01:05 <nsh22> hmm
01:05 <epsy> or only the first four letters when lazy
01:05 <nsh22> wrtlprnft: how do you say your name, wertlepernft or spell it out?
01:06 <epsy> he just says mathias :P
01:06 <cpayan> lame
01:06 <cpayan> it's not spelled that way at all :)
01:07 <nsh22> wtf is a triumvriate
01:07 <cpayan> a leadership of three people
01:07 <cpayan> or entities
01:07 <guru3> it's the armagetron system of government
01:08 <nsh22> who are the three?
01:08 <cpayan> like Marc Antony, Octavian Caesar, and Lepidus
01:08 <guru3> it says on the contact page
01:08 <epsy> it's one of the few things that are actually well-documented on the wiki :)
01:08 <cpayan> surprise surprise! :)
01:08 <epsy> @aawikis organisation
01:08 <teabot> epsy: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Ladle-12/Results - Ladle-12/Results - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
01:08 <epsy> haha
01:08 <nsh22> ah
01:08 <epsy> @aawikis project organisation
01:08 <epsy> @aawikis project structure
01:08 <teabot> epsy: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Government - Government - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
01:08 <teabot> epsy: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Development_Docs - Development Docs - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
01:08 <cpayan> I need to get into that wiki with that fellow that posted last on the Armagetron Revitalization thread
01:08 <epsy> forelast one
01:10 <cpayan> is there any timeline on when 0.2.8.3 might be released?
01:10 <guru3> less than a month
01:10 <epsy> possibly when the invuln bug gets fixed
01:10 <cpayan> Ah, maybe maybe not, then
01:10 <epsy> @bugs invulnerable
01:10 <teabot> epsy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+bug/246159 - Bug #246159 in Armagetron Advanced: “Server browser rendering ...
01:10 <epsy> er
01:11 <epsy> @bugs cycles turning invulnerable
01:11 <teabot> epsy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+bug/246159 - Bug #246159 in Armagetron Advanced: “Server browser rendering ...
01:11 <epsy> it insists
01:11 <cpayan> I was thinking that giving the arma community a facelift could be a good idea, and then pimping out the new release to a few rags around the internet. Get the word out more than it is right now.
01:11 <epsy> it's bug 322066
01:11 <teabot> Launchpad bug 322066 in armagetronad/0.2.8 "Cycles turning invulnerable" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/322066
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01:12 <epsy> BabyBug, would you consider being part of armagetron-squat?
01:13 <Lizmatic> she's asleep
01:13 <epsy> can't be :)
01:14 <@armabot> armagetronad: guru3 * r9092 /www/mainsite/armagetronad.css: facelift in the form of arial... alayws wondered why it was times new roman :/
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01:14 <epsy> well, nighty
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01:14 <sinewav> bb
01:15 <guru3> off to bed
01:15 <guru3> good night
01:17 <sinewav> bb
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01:33 <nsh22> iight time for bed
01:33 <nsh22> or ooff of comp anyways
01:33 <nsh22> #night
01:33 <@armabot> Good night nsh22!
01:34 <nsh22> ttytm
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02:37 <Lucifer> GodTodd: ping
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02:42 <GodTodd> Lucifer, pong
02:42 <Lucifer> hmmm, why isn't konversation opening a new tab for me?  :(
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04:31 <luke-jr> Lucifer: where's my game save?
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05:59 <luke-jr> guru3_: I've done some major work on Zones v2
05:59 <luke-jr> but I guess that's part of Zones v2 now :p
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11:59 <akira_arma> http://www.i-cams.org/
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12:13 <@armabot> lpbugs: [336621] Unidentified server crashes <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/336621>
12:15 <z-manuel> Turns out I CAN play the invulnerability bug server recording on my computer at home.
12:15 <z-manuel> In optimized mode :/
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12:51 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9093 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. NEWS): Manuel Moos: Forgot to update NEWS.
12:59 <z-man> Aaaaand fixed.
13:00 <MaZuffeR> \o/
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13:07 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
13:07 <@armabot> armagetronad: Reduced kill timeout in case cycle simulation gets stuck.
13:07 <@armabot> armagetronad: Fixed cycles getting stuck because of tsTodo floating point rounding.
13:13 <@armabot> armacommits: [bugfarm-scripts] r18 Added safety net for crashes.... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1081 Reduced kill timeout in case cycle simulation gets stuck....
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14:40 <@armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 9063 to 9094:
14:40 <@armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
14:40 <@armabot> armagetronad:  r9094 | bazaarmagetron | 2009-03-02 13:06:57 +0100 (Mon, 02 Mar 2009) | 4 lines
14:40 <@armabot> armagetronad:  author: Manuel Moos
14:40 <@armabot> armagetronad:  Reduced kill timeout in case cycle simulation gets stuck.
14:40 <@armabot> armagetronad:  Fixed cycles getting stuck because of tsTodo floating point rounding.
15:07 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9096 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/tron/gParser.cpp): Manuel Moos: Fixed uninitialized 'no' triad.
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15:10 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9098 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/tron/zone/zTimedZone.cpp): Manuel Moos: Another uninitailized Triad gone.
15:21 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1082 Removed unused variables.... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r879 Another uninitailized Triad gone.... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r878 Adapted to armatrator access level name change.... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r877 Fixed uninitialized 'no' triad.... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r876 Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 9063 to 9094:...
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16:24 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r880 Adapted respawn hack code to external changes.... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1083 Fixed exit cleanup failure (leading to crash at least on tru...
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16:39 <akira_arma> hi max
16:42 <madmax> hello
16:42 <madmax> holidays are over :<
16:42 <akira_arma> :(
16:43 <akira_arma> we won!
16:43 <madmax> yeah, congrats :)
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17:44 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9100 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/tron/gGame.cpp): Manuel Moos: Fixed exit cleanup failure (leading to crash at least on trunk) on timeouts.
17:46 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9101 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (6 files in 3 dirs):
17:46 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
17:46 <@armabot> armagetronad: Added "quit to game selection menu" state to uMenu::quickexit.
17:46 <@armabot> armagetronad: Using it to react on timeouts while a menu is getting displayed and to
17:46 <@armabot> armagetronad: properly abort pending server induced fullscreen messages.
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18:32 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1084 Added "quit to game selection menu" state to uMenu::quickexi...
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18:51 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r9103 /armagetronad/trunk/ (7 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)
18:51 <@armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 9094 to 9102:
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18:51 <@armabot> armagetronad:  r9101 | bazaarmagetron | 2009-03-02 17:45:56 +0100 (Mon, 02 Mar 2009) | 5 lines
18:51 <@armabot> armagetronad:  author: Manuel Moos
18:51 <@armabot> armagetronad:  Added "quit to game selection menu" state to uMenu::quickexit.
18:51 <@armabot> armagetronad:  Using it to react on timeouts while a menu is getting displayed and to
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20:26 <@armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 9102 to 9104:
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20:26 <@armabot> armagetronad:  r9104 | z-man | 2009-03-02 20:10:58 +0100 (Mon, 02 Mar 2009) | 2 lines
20:26 <@armabot> armagetronad:  Adapted to uMenu::quickexit changes.
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20:40 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1085 Adapted to uMenu::quickexit changes....
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21:10 <nsh22> hey hey hey
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21:13 <Vanhayes> hello
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21:30 <Vanhayes> anyone know why they named a world record book after an Irish beer?
21:30 <nsh22> becaus eut was that company who started it
21:31 <BabyBug> sponsored*
21:31 <nsh22> w/e
21:32 <Vanhayes> learn something new everyday
21:33 <Vanhayes> Beer, potatoes, whiskey and world records, what will they think of next
21:34 <PinkTomato> potatoes!
21:34 <nsh22> TOMATOES!
21:35 <PinkTomato> #m smoothice Last month I used 30GB
21:35 <@armabot> PinkTomato: The operation succeeded.
21:35 <Vanhayes> #q
21:35 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #64: "[14:14] <luke-jr> and needless to say, don't abuse power" (added by GodTodd at 11:42 PM, December 04, 2007)
21:35 <Vanhayes> ha
21:35 <Vanhayes> #q
21:35 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #24: "i'll be in grade 12 by fevurary -- spidey" (added by Lucifer_arma at 01:18 AM, October 21, 2006)
21:36 <nsh22> #quote
21:36 <@armabot> nsh22: Slab: Jus' say "AarrghaarrghpleeassennononoUGH" -- Detritus' war on drugs (Terry Pratchett, Feet of Clay)
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21:36 <nsh22> #q
21:36 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #66: "<Ady666> armabot say 'ello [...] <Ady666> its not smart enough" (added by epsy at 12:16 AM, December 22, 2007)
21:36 <nsh22> #q
21:36 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #58: "luke, your so cute when you think you are right about some crazy position. - philippeqc2" (added by GodTodd at 03:34 AM, August 13, 2007)
21:36 <Vanhayes> whatever happened to spidey?
21:37 <Vanhayes> #q
21:37 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #72: "epsy puts himself in the middle and eats it.  --epsy" (added by Lucifer_arma at 12:48 AM, July 28, 2008)
21:37 <Vanhayes> #q
21:37 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #45: "better an idiot that can admit it than a luke-jr....er, idiot that can't --GodTodd" (added by Lucifer_arma at 03:35 AM, March 12, 2007)
21:37 <Vanhayes> #q
21:37 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #50: "<epsy_> MrBougo, X frozed <epsy_> no more wrtl+alt+del" (added by epsy at 03:53 PM, July 09, 2007)
21:38 <nsh22> lol @ #45
21:38 <Vanhayes> #q
21:38 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #60: "<luke-jr> fanatics are good" (added by epsy at 10:27 AM, September 23, 2007)
21:38 <Vanhayes> heh
21:38 <Vanhayes> #q
21:38 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #82: "<TaZ> Ady-Lucifer: Nah, you're nicer than lucifer though" (added by K-Yo at 04:46 PM, December 13, 2008)
21:38 <Vanhayes> #q
21:39 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #19: "If we were wolves and we snuck into China, they'd try to eat us, but we'd eat them. --Lucifer's Son" (added by Lucifer_arma at 11:36 PM, July 05, 2006)
21:39 <PinkTomato> someone just post this quote file on a website please ^_^
21:39 <Vanhayes> #q
21:39 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #45: "better an idiot that can admit it than a luke-jr....er, idiot that can't --GodTodd" (added by Lucifer_arma at 03:35 AM, March 12, 2007)
21:39 <Vanhayes> #q get 1
21:39 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #74: "Pathetique: I find it funny how ivantis can write C++ but has no clue how to actually write it." (added by ct|kyle at 09:07 PM, July 28, 2008)
21:39 <Vanhayes> #quote get 1
21:39 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #1: "Was this compiled by our friend Sum Ting Wong? --WallyWallWhackr" (added by Lucifer_arma at 06:37 AM, March 24, 2006)
21:40 <Vanhayes> #quote get 10
21:40 <BabyBug> just do #q 1
21:40 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Error: There is no Quote with id #10 in my database for #armagetron.
21:40 <Vanhayes> #q 1
21:40 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #22: "i got a pen from a microsoft rep about 2 months ago.. already stopped working properly -- Plazma" (added by Lucifer_arma at 03:46 AM, September 19, 2006)
21:40 <BabyBug> or not :|
21:40 <BabyBug> #help q
21:40 <@armabot> BabyBug: (q <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "quote random".
21:40 <PinkTomato> #help quote
21:40 <Vanhayes> #quote get 15
21:40 <@armabot> PinkTomato: (quote <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://p4.rootnode.net/".
21:40 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #15: "You see a body ripped appart, blood splatter on the ceiling, gore all over. Tell me, would you really suspect that worm making a run for it toward the door at 5 cm per minute? No you would not! - philippeqc" (added by n54 at 08:09 PM, April 25, 2006)
21:42 <Vanhayes> #quote get 20
21:42 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #20: "ok luci, you'd know better on this one -- luke-jr" (added by wrtlprnft at 02:26 PM, August 24, 2006)
21:42 <Vanhayes> ha
21:42 <PinkTomato> hehe
21:43 <Vanhayes> #quote get 25
21:43 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Error: There is no Quote with id #25 in my database for #armagetron.
21:43 <Vanhayes> #quote get 21
21:43 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #21: "<Luke-Jr_work__> btw, pedophile is good" (added by spidey at 06:34 AM, September 09, 2006)
21:43 <Vanhayes> misquoting luke-jr seems to be a recurring theme
21:43 <Vanhayes> #quote get 30
21:43 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r882 Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 9102 to 9104:...
21:43 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #30: "Fonkay: Are you afraid of sex? -armabot" (added by spidey at 01:02 AM, November 02, 2006)
21:44 <Vanhayes> #quote get 35
21:44 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #35: "ur not a good writer :P - Ady" (added by Lucifer_arma at 11:00 PM, November 13, 2006)
21:44 <Vanhayes> #quote get 31
21:44 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #31: "<Fonkay> #eliza you are stupid <armabot> Fonkay: Why do you say i are stupid?" (added by Vanhayes at 01:05 AM, November 02, 2006)
21:45 <Vanhayes> #quote get 32
21:45 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #32: "i2020> sure you can... who told you that, little lukie wookie" (added by spidey at 07:34 PM, November 05, 2006)
21:46 <PinkTomato> Vanhayes: you might as well use #q if you are just using randoms ^_^
21:46 <Vanhayes> i want some of the earlier ones
21:46 <Vanhayes> #quote get 40
21:46 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #40: "Mommy, my sister said I was a mean tattletale - Lucifer's Son" (added by Lucifer_arma at 05:40 AM, December 16, 2006)
21:46 <epsy> #roulette
21:46 <@armabot> epsy: *click*
21:46 <epsy> :x
21:46 <epsy> for one time I don't cheat
21:47 <ct|kyle> #quote get 69
21:47 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Quote #69: "gentoo ebuild is as broken as luke-jr himself :D ~xfroggy" (added by ct|kyle at 06:23 PM, January 26, 2008)
21:47 <Vanhayes> #quote get 100
21:47 -!- teabot [i=xclan@fiji.dreamhost.com] has quit [SendQ exceeded]
21:47 <epsy> #quote get 80
21:47 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Error: There is no Quote with id #100 in my database for #armagetron.
21:47 <@armabot> epsy: Quote #80: "<luke-jr> Intel GPU pwns <luke-jr> CPU sucks" (added by epsy at 11:35 PM, August 04, 2008)
21:47 <Vanhayes> #quote get 80
21:47 <epsy> #quote get 90
21:47 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #80: "<luke-jr> Intel GPU pwns <luke-jr> CPU sucks" (added by epsy at 11:35 PM, August 04, 2008)
21:47 <@armabot> epsy: Error: There is no Quote with id #90 in my database for #armagetron.
21:47 <Vanhayes> #quote get 88
21:47 <epsy> #quote get 89
21:47 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #88: "Flex: you start your grind at the zone, by the time you get to the split it's weak, not to mention the guy is burning the same rubber.." (added by madmax at 01:15 AM, January 31, 2009)
21:47 <@armabot> epsy: Quote #89: "<ct|kyle>: smoothice: you can with zones v3" (added by epsy at 12:19 AM, February 15, 2009)
21:47 <ct|kyle> I thin k 87
21:47 <Vanhayes> 89 it seems
21:47 <Vanhayes> #quote get 91
21:47 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Error: There is no Quote with id #91 in my database for #armagetron.
21:47 <ct|kyle> I forgot epsy added that pointless one
21:48 <epsy> it's a funny one, heh
21:48 <madmax> 88 ftw
21:49 <Vanhayes> ya thats a bit disturbing
21:49 <ct|kyle> 69 FTW
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21:49 <Vanhayes> arma terms can be mistrewed easily if taken out of context
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21:50 <Vanhayes> misconstrewed* if that is even how you spell it
21:50 <Vanhayes> dont think it is
21:50 <BabyBug> misconstrued
21:51 <Vanhayes> there it is
21:51 <epsy> onoz
21:52 <nsh22> whats the command to give a global id admin?
21:52 <epsy> s/global id/user/ ?
21:53 <nsh22> ?
21:53 <nsh22> for in game?
21:53 <epsy> you want to change someone's access level, right?
21:53 <nsh22> yes
21:53 <epsy> USER_LEVEL
21:53 <nsh22> ... i tried that
21:53 <epsy> did you read config/settings_authentication.cfg ?
21:54 <epsy> what did you try and what were the results
21:54 <epsy> because that's the command to change an user's access level
21:55 <nsh22> ...
21:55 <epsy> [22:54] <epsy>: what did you try and what were the results ?
21:56 <epsy> if you don't answer this I quit trying to help you, because shot-in-the-dark answers are not my thing
21:56 <nsh22> i tried /admin user_level ****@forums 1
21:56 <nsh22> it said it changed it, but his status never canged
21:56 <epsy> ok
21:56 <nsh22> when i /players
21:56 <epsy> did he log in again?
21:57 <nsh22> im checking that
21:58 <nsh22> its didnt work
21:59 <epsy> right, I published my branch for modules up, feel free to contribute to it, the architecture should be pretty obvious
21:59 <epsy>  /listadmins
22:00 <Vanhayes> #list
22:00 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Format, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Insult, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Nickometer, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
22:01 <Vanhayes> #list games
22:01 <nsh22> hes there, but its like his name is wrong...but it isnt
22:01 <@armabot> Vanhayes: coin, dice, eightball, monologue, and roulette
22:02 <epsy> Vanhayes, can you do the bot love in PM please?
22:02 <epsy> nsh22, capitalisation counts
22:02 <nsh22> si now
22:02 <epsy> hm?
22:02 <nsh22> i capitalised it
22:02 <Vanhayes> nah ill just stop altogether
22:02 <nsh22> sand it shows up as smal caps
22:03 <epsy> nsh22, can I see?
22:03 <Vanhayes> nsh22: is s your talk button in arma?
22:03 <nsh22> see what?
22:03 <nsh22> yes
22:03 <epsy> server
22:04 <nsh22> nw central neals ctfs
22:04 <nsh22> night walkers*
22:05 <epsy> @sd night walkers central neals ctfs
22:05 <teabot> epsy: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “night walkers central neals ctfs” at the moment, sorry.
22:05 <BabyBug> epsy, wth is armagetron-squat?
22:06 <epsy> https://launchpad.net/~armagetronad-squat
22:06 <nsh22> ~night walkers central ~neals
22:07 <nsh22> #si ~night walkers central ~neals
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22:07 <@armabot> nsh22: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “~night walkers central ~neals” at the moment, sorry.
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22:14 <BabyBug> epsy, don't get it :P
22:14 <epsy> BabyBug, the quality assurance team
22:14 <epsy> since you are a good bug reporter
22:22 <epsy> right, people are robbing FFF from me :<
22:23 <Vanhayes> fff?
22:23 <epsy> fortress for four
22:24 <luke-jr> is that my SoloFortress renamed? O.o
22:24 <BabyBug> don't need a badge epsy :P
22:24 <luke-jr> or somethign else
22:24 <BabyBug> luke-jr, fff is two teams. 4 players
22:24 <BabyBug> bewb!
22:24 <epsy> luke-jr, basically simply fortress in temas of four
22:25 <luke-jr> o
22:25 <luke-jr> very diff
22:25 <luke-jr> ☺_
22:25 <epsy> http://fff.armagetron.co.uk/
22:26 <Vanhayes> anyon eever try that big map i made for four team fort?
22:26 <epsy> link?
22:26 <Vanhayes> hmm wonder if it is even on repository
22:26 <Vanhayes> just a sec
22:26 <epsy> no wonder nobody uses it
22:27 <Vanhayes> what, you cant just get it off my computer?
22:27 <epsy> no :)
22:27 <Vanhayes> laziness i say
22:27 <Vanhayes> hmm where is the repository link on arma page?
22:28 <epsy> beta.armagetronad.net
22:28 <nsh22> ct|kyle: i think i found a bug on ct+sty
22:29 <epsy> nsh22, this is close to asking to ask
22:32 <nsh22> may i ask you a question then? :P
22:33 <epsy> /ignore nsh22 ALL
22:33 <nsh22> i actually have a question, what happens if a styball gets stuck in a corner
22:33 <epsy> like what?
22:34 <Vanhayes> luke-jr: http://aabeta.dashjr.org/resource/ is that where that nice looking resource veiwer is
22:34 <nsh22> i had an instance when the styball was pushed into a corner and just stayed there...
22:36 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: http://beta.armagetronad.net has a link
22:36 <Vanhayes> ah, thanks
22:36 <Vanhayes> wasnt opening for me from the mainsite
22:37 <Vanhayes> http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/Vanhayes/fortress/double_fortress-1.aamap.xml  <-- thats the one i was talking about
22:37 <Vanhayes> I think i meant for it to be so you could play more than 8 vs 8 without it getting crowded
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22:39 <Vanhayes> nsh22: you are from barrie ontario?
22:42 <nsh22> ??? why
22:42 <Vanhayes> nsh22 (n=neal@bas3-barrie18-1279549255.dsl.bell.ca) has joined #armagetron
22:42 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: that means yes
22:42 <Vanhayes> bell plus barrie = barrie ontario
22:43 <Vanhayes> oh ya been meaning to mention, dont know if its really a bug but the cockpit i made doesnt work correctly anymore
22:43 <Vanhayes> well, the minimap doesnt
22:44 <Vanhayes> its all white now instead of transparent
22:44 <ct|kyle> nsh22: there is code in it to reset the position of it (some setting)
22:48 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: you run trunk?
22:48 <Vanhayes> noi, think its the newest 0.3 on the beta site
22:50 <Vanhayes> er, was the newest as of a week ago anyways
22:51 <Vanhayes> alpha 8870 it says
22:52 <Vanhayes> anyways its only white on my cockpit not the default one
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23:02 <nsh22> #si neals random server
23:02 <@armabot> nsh22: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “neals random server” at the moment, sorry.
23:02 <nsh22> #si neal
23:02 <@armabot> nsh22: ~Night Walker's Central~Neal's Random Server~: Players (6/8): +|Zurd~Nw (ZURD101@forums), .Dk|2Fåç£, Fish~NW (Fish~NW@), Neal~NW (nsh22@forums), pop, WrEcKlEsS
23:03 <epsy> brmmmpppffff
23:03 <epsy> good night
23:03 <Vanhayes> #si elim
23:03 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Bugfarm Elimination Sumo: Players (7/16): -+:tade-, I/O Bus [incam], madmax, noobSaibot, sithy, The Puffin Wars, Z-1200
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00:04 <nsh22> colour codes dont work on beta?
00:04 <nsh22> #r
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00:14 <Vanhayes> noising split?
00:15 <nsh22> ??
00:15 <nsh22> swhy so many ppl leave
00:15 <nsh22> bartol mustve whent down
00:15 <nsh22> ok nvm
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00:25 <Vanhayes> #dict bulletism
00:25 <@armabot> Vanhayes: No definition for "bulletism" could be found.
00:25 <Vanhayes> knew it
00:26 <nsh22> #weather barrie
00:26 <@armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Barrie Tall Oaks West End, Barrie, Ontario is 7.0°F (6:25 PM EST on March 02, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: -9.4°F. Windchill: 6.8°F. Pressure: 30.41 in 1029.7 hPa (Steady).
00:30 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
00:30 <Vanhayes> freezing rain is awesome
00:30 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
00:31 <Vanhayes> #weather moncton
00:31 <Vanhayes> #weather E5n 5C5
00:31 <@armabot> Vanhayes: The current temperature in Moncton, New Brunswick is 26.6°F (7:00 PM AST on March 02, 2009). Conditions: Light Ice Pellets. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 24.8°F. Windchill: 14.0°F. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Falling).
00:31 <@armabot> Vanhayes: The current temperature in Hampton High School, Hampton, New Brunswick is 27.1°F (7:31 PM AST on March 02, 2009). Conditions: Light Freezing Rain. Humidity: 255%. Windchill: 17.6°F. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Falling).
00:31 <Vanhayes> hmm, i dont live in a school
00:32 <nsh22> lol its the clsest weather station :P
00:32 <nsh22> or landmark
00:33 <luke-jr> ugh
00:33 <luke-jr> to block time-based zone segments in the schema, we'd need to upgrade to XSD or something
00:33 <luke-jr> :/
00:34 <nsh22> ???
00:34 <nsh22> wtf is xsd
00:37 <luke-jr> GIYF
00:38 <nsh22> @gtfy xsd
00:38 <teabot> xsd: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=(urlquote <text>) -- Returns the URL quoted form of the text.
00:38 <nsh22> i take it you meant that?
00:38 <nsh22> @gtfy neal xsd
00:38 <teabot> neal: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=xsd
00:39 -!- smoothice [n=smoothic@97-122-119-120.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #armagetron
00:39 <nsh22> yo
00:39 <smoothice> hi
00:39 <nsh22> you missed a kerfuffle on my server
00:39 <smoothice> ?
00:39 <nsh22> i couldnt op zurd
00:39 <nsh22> or anyone
00:39 <smoothice> fail
00:40 <nsh22> we were like, whrres smooth when you need him :P
00:41 <smoothice> luke-jr: When I compiled zv2 sty yesterday I was unable to get a flag zone to appear
00:41 <smoothice> luke-jr: using the zones v1 map
00:42 <luke-jr> sounds like a bug
00:43 <smoothice> ?
00:43 <smoothice> luke-jr: do I have to add anything to gParser
00:43 <luke-jr> nope
00:44 <smoothice> :/
00:45 <smoothice> Might you be able to quickly glance at the code?
00:45 <smoothice> https://code.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-sty-0.3/armagetronad/armagetronad-v2sty
00:46 <nsh22> smoothice: msn?
00:46 <smoothice> nsh22: oops, forgot lol
00:46 <luke-jr> nsh22: is fail
00:46 <nsh22> me or msn?
00:46 <nsh22> or both...
00:47 <luke-jr> msn
00:47 <luke-jr> and  u for using it
00:47 <nsh22> so smooth fails too?
00:47 <smoothice> I use AIM
00:47 <smoothice> and GTalk
00:47 <smoothice> lol
00:48 <luke-jr> liar
00:48 <smoothice> nope
00:48 <smoothice> I use iChat
00:48 <smoothice> with both of those
00:48 <luke-jr> see you online, I do not
00:49 <smoothice> luke-jr: so can you glance at my code?
00:49 <nsh22> for what?
00:49 <luke-jr> maybe
00:49 <smoothice> zv2 sty
00:49 <smoothice> anyone here scared of a solar storm causing global power outage for years?
00:49 <smoothice> in 2012?
00:50 <luke-jr> no
00:50 <nsh22> ...
00:50 <luke-jr> that's like 3 years away
00:50 <nsh22> thats one of the many 2012 stories
00:50 <smoothice> solar cycle ends in 2011
00:50 <smoothice> solar max
00:51 <nsh22> ?
00:51 <luke-jr> smoothice: you'er still offline on GTalk
00:51 <smoothice> I'm not smoothice@gmail.com
00:51 <smoothice> -.-
00:51 <luke-jr> …
00:51 <smoothice> luke-jr: please... http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Earmagetronad-sty-0.3/armagetronad/armagetronad-v2sty/annotate/head%3A/src/tron/zone//zFlag.cpp
00:51 <luke-jr> skierjunk
00:51 <smoothice> oh
00:51 <smoothice> that's my junk gtalk
00:51 <smoothice> mail
00:51 <luke-jr> -.-
00:51 <smoothice> I don't use that one
00:51 <luke-jr> -.-
00:51 <smoothice> It forwards to my main
00:51 <smoothice> :P
00:51 <luke-jr> -.-
00:52 <luke-jr> skier?
00:52 <smoothice> you ain't getting hold of my main
00:52 <smoothice> nice try
00:52 <nsh22> why not?
00:53 <luke-jr> guess I can't talk to you about the code then
00:53 <smoothice> I don't need random crap going there
00:53 <luke-jr> oh well
00:53 <smoothice> ...
00:53 <smoothice> luke
00:53 <smoothice> sometimes I wish you'd just help me and not make a fit about it
00:53 <luke-jr> ?
00:53 <nsh22> just give it to luke, hes gonna get it anyways
00:53 <luke-jr> the code is way over there-------------------->
00:53 <luke-jr> on desktop 4
00:53 <luke-jr> IRC is on like
00:54 <luke-jr> desktop 12
00:54 <smoothice> I linked you?
00:54 <luke-jr> <----------- over there
00:54 <smoothice> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Earmagetronad-sty-0.3/armagetronad/armagetronad-v2sty/annotate/head%3A/src/tron/zone//zFlag.cpp
00:54 <nsh22> how many desktops do you have luke?
00:54 <luke-jr> nsh22: 16
00:54 <nsh22> ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!
00:54 <smoothice> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Earmagetronad-sty-0.3/armagetronad/armagetronad-v2sty/annotate/head%3A/src/tron/zone//zFlag.cpp
00:54 <smoothice> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Earmagetronad-sty-0.3/armagetronad/armagetronad-v2sty/annotate/head%3A/src/tron/zone//zFlag.cpp
00:54 <nsh22> wtf?
00:54 <luke-jr> smoothice: if I open it, it goes to desktop 4
00:54 <nsh22> who needs and uses 16 desktops, and why?
00:55 <luke-jr> nsh22: I use about 10 of them
00:55 <@armabot> lpbugs: [336973] Possible hole in the resource uploader <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/336973>
00:56 <nsh22> are they all in the same room?
00:56 <luke-jr> …….
00:56 <luke-jr> wtf does that mean
00:56 <nsh22> like do you have one big room with all your comps in it?
00:56 <nsh22> or in separate rooms?
00:57 <luke-jr> uh
00:57 <luke-jr> not THAT kind of desktop, idiot
00:57 <luke-jr> virtual desktops
00:57 <luke-jr> -.-
00:57 <nsh22> ??
00:57 <luke-jr> living room has 2 comps, storage room has 2
00:57 <luke-jr> that's all
00:58 <nsh22> /me is confused
00:58 <smoothice> #si -v MIKE
00:58 <@armabot> smoothice: MIKE PENIS (96.247.106.190:4534) running 0.2.8.2.1 win hybrid, Description: “Nothing special.“, Players (2/16): Mike, Player 1
00:58 <nsh22> what is a virtual destop then?
00:58 <luke-jr> -.-
00:58 <smoothice> MIKE PENIS (96.247.106.190:4534) running 0.2.8.2.1 win hybrid
00:58 <luke-jr> @gtfy nsh22 virtual desktops
00:58 <teabot> nsh22: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=virtual%20desktops
00:59 <nsh22> ty :P
00:59 <luke-jr> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_desktop
00:59 <nsh22> im already there :P
01:00 <smoothice> MIKE PENIS (96.247.106.190:4534) running 0.2.8.2.1 win hybrid
01:00 <smoothice> lol
01:00 <nsh22> wtf do you keep brng that u[
01:00 <smoothice> I don't know lol
01:00 <nsh22> who cares?
01:00 <smoothice> wisely, correctly and legitimately™
01:00 <smoothice> olz
01:01 <nsh22> ]yandere
01:01 <ljrbot> A yandere game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "]yandere" to join.
01:01 <nsh22> :)
01:02 <luke-jr> nsh22: #anime
01:02 <nsh22> ...
01:02 <nsh22> i know but their into anime, and im not
01:02 <luke-jr> wah wah
01:02 <luke-jr> you're starting the anime version of the game anyhow
01:02 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
01:02 <nsh22> ]yandere end
01:02 <ljrbot> The yandere game game has been forced to end.
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02:36 <GodTodd> grrr....why can't I delete these files? :/
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02:37 <luke-jr> GodTodd: I locked them
02:38 <GodTodd> sure thing
02:38 <luke-jr> chattr -i
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02:49 <GodTodd> nope...still says it's read only
02:50 <luke-jr> :o
02:50 <luke-jr> as root?
02:51 <GodTodd> yep
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03:17 <GodTodd> man...it won't even let me *copy* the files
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04:00 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/ZURD/clever/shootout-1.1.aamap.xml: Resource by ZURD
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05:43 <Lucifer_arma> #fetch http://www.davefancella.com
05:44 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: '<?xml version="1.0"\n?>\n<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">\n<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">\n<head>\n<title>Dave Fancella</title>\n<meta name="generator" content="http://txt2tags.sf.net" />\n<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="style/main.css" />\n<link rel="stylesheet" (5 more messages)
05:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9106 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/tron/gGame.cpp): Daniel Lee Harple: more quick exit changes
06:00 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1086 more quick exit changes
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09:46 <wrtlprnft_> #later tell *van*hayes* you've got to specify a background color now or it'll default to white.
09:46 <@armabot> wrtlprnft_: The operation succeeded.
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12:55 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9107 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/network/nNetwork.cpp):
12:55 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
12:55 <@armabot> armagetronad: No longer sending protobuf logout messages when non-protobuf login
12:55 <@armabot> armagetronad: fails. Of course, the next course of action after the failure is to send a protobuf
12:55 <@armabot> armagetronad: login message, so this is more of a cosmetic change.
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13:24 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r883 No longer sending protobuf logout messages when non-protobuf...
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13:35 <@armabot> lpbugs: [337193] Locked teams with only AIs <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/337193>
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15:33 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1087 In debug mode, no longer check for desktop dimensions unless... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r885 Fetching correct camera for raycasts so camviews don't crash... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r884 Added missing _born initialization....
15:35 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9108 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/render/rScreen.cpp):
15:35 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
15:35 <@armabot> armagetronad: In debug mode, no longer check for desktop dimensions unless desktop
15:35 <@armabot> armagetronad: fullscreen mode is selected. This avoids the annoying flickering and
15:35 <@armabot> armagetronad: makes the window find an actually useful place on the desktop instead
15:35 <@armabot> armagetronad: of jumping to the top left corner.
15:47 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r9109 /armagetronad/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)
15:47 <@armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 9104 to 9108:
15:47 <@armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
15:47 <@armabot> armagetronad:  r9108 | bazaarmagetron | 2009-03-03 15:35:34 +0100 (Tue, 03 Mar 2009) | 6 lines
15:47 <@armabot> armagetronad:  author: Manuel Moos
15:47 <@armabot> armagetronad:  In debug mode, no longer check for desktop dimensions unless desktop
15:47 <@armabot> armagetronad:  fullscreen mode is selected. This avoids the annoying flickering and
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16:03 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9110 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/eDisplay.cpp src/engine/eGameObject.cpp): (log message trimmed)
16:03 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Bazaarmagetron
16:03 <@armabot> armagetronad: Automatic merging of commits that would change history order:
16:03 <@armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------
16:03 <@armabot> armagetronad:  revno: 883.1.2
16:03 <@armabot> armagetronad:  committer: Manuel Moos <z-man@users.sf.net>
16:03 <@armabot> armagetronad:  branch nick: armagetronad
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16:19 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9111 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/render/rScreen.cpp):
16:19 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
16:19 <@armabot> armagetronad: Saving successful screen initializations so multiple instances sharing
16:19 <@armabot> armagetronad: configuration don't switch to unwanted setups.
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16:30 <BabyBug> sorry =x
16:33 <epsy> np :)
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16:35 <epsy> #ping
16:35 <@armabot> pong
16:35 <epsy> @ping
16:36 <teabot> pong
16:37 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r885 Automatic merging of commits that would change history order... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r884 Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 9104 to 9108:... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r886 Saving successful screen initializations so multiple instanc... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] Fetching correct camera for raycasts so camviews don't crash... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] Added missing _born i
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17:00 <zmanuel> hey epsy, what about that French translation? :)
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17:01 <z-man> Shall I mark it as delayed for some bugfix release after 0.2.8.3?
17:01 <epsy> yeah
17:01 <luke-jr> :<
17:01 <BabyBug> Do people actually use them translations?
17:01 <epsy> I would even delay it to gettext :<
17:01 <BabyBug> I mean seriously....there's so much to translate
17:01 <BabyBug> surely people know english :P
17:01 <epsy> BabyBug, not really no
17:01 <z-man> Yeah, I spent essentially three or four tron days to update the German version
17:02 <z-man> and it was missing a lot less than the French.
17:02 <epsy> and French has oddities to I pretty much have to review it all
17:02 <z-man> Some of the recordings we get from German players use German.
17:02 <epsy> so *
17:02 <epsy> being able to use Launchpad translations would be awesome :x
17:03 <z-man> Yeah.
17:03 <BabyBug> Why don't you?
17:03 <z-man> Work?
17:03 <BabyBug> ...
17:03 <z-man> We need to a) integrate gettext
17:03 <z-man> b) get all the english text back into the source properly
17:04 <epsy> a script SHOULD be able to do that
17:04 <z-man> c) get the translations converted to gettext format
17:04 <epsy> that being b and c
17:04 <z-man> d) cope with merge hell if someone submits 0.2.8 translations.
17:04 <BabyBug> Ok but..still, wouldn't it be good to encourage people to fill out LP translations? Rather than integrate it, and THEN translate?
17:04 <z-man> (solution to d: don't bother.)
17:05 <z-man> BabyBug: that still requires a) and b).
17:05 <epsy> By the way, regarding config items, would we just use the old syntax?
17:05 <z-man> Good question. There's some 'standard' text items.
17:06 <z-man> Mostly the config _help texts, really.
17:06 <z-man> The dynamically generated config items would be most problematic.
17:07 <epsy> like?
17:07 <epsy> colors and stuff?
17:07 <z-man> Team names
17:07 <epsy> ah yeah
17:07 <z-man> TEAM_NAME_X
17:07 <z-man> also, the gettext tools may bork.
17:07 <epsy> that's pretty much where I want to act with my cfg item redesign
17:07 <z-man> Problem is that we'd need to pass the english text in on construction of some items
17:08 <z-man> otherwise gt won't know it needs translation (I guess)
17:08 <z-man> but then, the translation is also done on object construction time.
17:08 <z-man> So changing the language would require a restart.
17:08 <epsy> shouldn't you be able to change language while running, according to gt?
17:09 <z-man> yeah, but that doesn't help if the text is translated, then stored.
17:09 <z-man> Anyway, it's nontrivial, no matter what we do there.
17:10  * z-man has to run to avoid trouble with wife
17:10 <epsy> so it also depends on cfg restructure :<
17:10 <epsy> bb
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19:07 <BabyBug> \o/
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19:54 <epsy> hi BabyBug
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23:16 <nsh22> hai hai hai
23:16 <nsh22> #anime
23:17 <epsy> do not start promoting that chan as well
23:18 <nsh22> no i forgot to /join
23:18 <nsh22> i jujts like the yandere and loli games
23:18 <epsy> yeah, stuff we don't want
23:18 <nsh22> what about /away msgs?
23:19 <nsh22> :P
23:19 <nsh22> i thought you ignored me? lol
23:19 <epsy> [00:18] <epsy>: yeah, stuff we don't want
23:19 <epsy> you ? no
23:21 <nsh22> ]yc
23:21 <ljrbot> pteague, shortc|desk, luke-jr, Lazy_Zefiris, shloosh, White_Cat, Cherub, Isum, DuClare, moses_, desu, PinkTomato, Lamperi, mgolisch, phokeu|work, Vohveli, Yokatta, Meow_Zefiris, Rosalia, und3f, turkuamk, White_Cat, [wito]
23:21 <nsh22> ???
23:21 <nsh22> ]help yc
23:21 <ljrbot> nsh22: (yc <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo pteague, shortc|desk, luke-jr, Lazy_Zefiris, shloosh, White_Cat, Cherub, Isum, DuClare, moses_, desu, PinkTomato, Lamperi, mgolisch, phokeu|work, Vohveli, Yokatta, Meow_Zefiris, Rosalia, und3f, turkuamk, White_Cat, [wito]".
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23:54 <nsh22> I GOT A LINUX DISK! wewt~
23:55 <nsh22> so if i installed linux in my external hard drive, it would delete all of my files on there, but not on my comp?
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23:57 <epsy> ah, I need to do that
23:57 <epsy> how big is DSL?
23:57 <nsh22> ???
23:57 <epsy> anyone tried it?
23:58 <nsh22> dsl as in internet?>
23:58 <Vanhayes> what do you meean?
23:58 <epsy> damn small linux
23:59 <nsh22> anyway, can you answer my queston epsy?
23:59 <epsy> what?
23:59 <nsh22> so if i installed linux in my external hard drive, it would delete all of my files on there, but not on my comp?

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00:00 <epsy> depends
00:00 <nsh22> i have no partitions on it
00:00 <epsy> you can make some with the installer
00:00 <epsy> usually
00:01 <nsh22> would it delete my files?
00:02 <epsy> usually not
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00:11 <Vanhayes> #seen ghableska
00:11 <@armabot> Vanhayes: ghableska was last seen in #armagetron 37 weeks, 1 day, 7 hours, 46 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <ghableska> oh hi monkey
00:12 <Vanhayes> #lastseen ghableska
00:12 <@armabot> Vanhayes: timed out
00:13 <nsh22> epsy: have you installed ubuntu before?
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00:16 <Vanhayes> hello
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00:22 <nsh22> ugh backing up my files is taking forever....
00:23 <PinkTomato> nsh22: How big and what media :)?
00:23 <nsh22> what is the best method for moving 10gb of stuff into a folder?
00:23 <nsh22> 10 gb, give or atake a gb or 2
00:23 <smoothice> in windows?
00:23 <nsh22> yes
00:23 <smoothice> I don't know then lol
00:23 <nsh22> ...
00:24 <PinkTomato> to what media?
00:24 <epsy> nsh22, kubuntu, a whiiiiiiiiiile ago
00:24 <nsh22> ??/
00:24 <nsh22> what you mean to what media?
00:24 <nsh22> epsy, what?
00:24 <PinkTomato> FAT32/NTFS is faster than writing than EXT3 :)
00:24 <nsh22> ah
00:24 <epsy> whatN
00:24 <PinkTomato> That's what I heard anyway
00:25 <PinkTomato> nsh22: where are putting this data?
00:25 <nsh22> epsy: epsy> nsh22, kubuntu, a whiiiiiiiiiile ago <===what dies that mean?
00:25 <epsy> writing to ext3 you mean?
00:25 <nsh22> im poutting it in my internal hd
00:25 <epsy> [01:13] <nsh22>: epsy: have you installed ubuntu before?
00:25 <PinkTomato> epsy: yeap
00:25 <nsh22> oh
00:25 <epsy> I'm soon going to try having an old pc gboot from usb mass storage :d
00:25 <epsy> *-g
00:26 <nsh22> from fat32 to ntfs
00:26 <PinkTomato> You are converting your hard drive from fat32 to ntfs?
00:26 <epsy> oo, dsl is 50MB only
00:26 <epsy> pew
00:27 <nsh22> the time estimate is jumping from 30 mins to 130 mins....
00:27 <epsy> well, that will greatly fit on an usb stick
00:28 <epsy> until then, goood night
00:28 <nsh22> noooo!!!!!
00:30 <nsh22> i shold be able to run linux from my ext. hd correct?
00:30 <PinkTomato> nsh22: what are doing?
00:30 <nsh22> ?
00:30 <PinkTomato> nsh22: depends on your BIOS,
00:30 <nsh22> bios?
00:30 <epsy> depends on bios
00:30 <epsy> BUUT
00:30 <nsh22> wtf are bios
00:30 <epsy> you could install grub on the first hd to boot from the second hd
00:30 <epsy> nsh22, gtfy
00:30 <epsy> :)
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00:31 <nsh22> boot from wat to wat?
00:31 <smoothice> grub
00:31 <nsh22> @gtfy neal bios
00:31 <teabot> neal: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=bios
00:31 <smoothice> lol
00:32 <PinkTomato> You need a BIOS that can handle a USB external device boot, most, if not all new PC's support this.
00:33 <PinkTomato> A BIOS is the first thing that is loaded on a PC boot, and is stored on chip(?) that can be erased and updated.
00:34 <PinkTomato> Alternatively, you can install GRUB on the Hard Drive method
00:34 <nsh22> 0-0~\
00:35 <nsh22> will it work for 7.04?
00:36 <smoothice> yes
00:36 <smoothice> but get 8.10
00:36 <smoothice> It's better
00:36 <nsh22> ... so would i just download it from the site?
00:36 <smoothice> yes
00:36 <smoothice> or torrent it
00:36 <nsh22> @gtfy ubuntu install
00:36 <teabot> ubuntu: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=install
00:36 <nsh22> @gtfy neal ubuntu install
00:36 <teabot> neal: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu%20install
00:37 <nsh22> ack, i should finish my english first
00:38 <smoothice> lolz
00:38 <smoothice> yeah
00:38 <smoothice> HW first!
00:40 <smoothice> PinkTomato: BIOS is not the first thing
00:41 <smoothice> PinkTomato: For most people, BIOS is nonexistant:D
00:41 <smoothice> PinkTomato: It's EFI :)
00:42 <PinkTomato> No one has EFI! :D
00:42 <smoothice> I do
00:42 <PinkTomato> That's almost exclusively macinotosh
00:42 <nsh22> how do i check to see if i have bios
00:42 <smoothice> How old is ur comp
00:43 <nsh22> erm....
00:43 <nsh22> i has windows ex home 2002 edition
00:44 <nsh22> xp*
00:44 <smoothice> ex-pee?
00:44 <nsh22> ...
00:44 <smoothice> ok
00:44 <smoothice> Windows XP SP2
00:44 <smoothice> How old is the hardware?
00:44 <smoothice> BIOS is separate from the operating system
00:44 <nsh22> i dunno, where can i find that?
00:45 <smoothice> ok what's your computer model?
00:46 <nsh22> i dunno
00:46 <smoothice> dude
00:46 <smoothice> It's on the freaking tower
00:46 <smoothice> -.-
00:47 <smoothice> Dell Inspiron 2600
00:47 <smoothice> whatever
00:47 <nsh22> i cant talk right now, moms having a "fest"
00:47 <smoothice> kk
00:47 <Vanhayes> whats a "fest"?
00:48 <smoothice> Don't ask
00:48 <nsh22> short form for bitchfest
00:48 <smoothice> ....
00:48 <nsh22> in my saying sanyway
00:48 <Vanhayes> i see
00:48 <smoothice> What's a bitchfest?
00:48 <Vanhayes> a festival of bitches
00:48 <nsh22> ...do i really need to explain...
00:48 <smoothice> where ur mom
00:48 <smoothice> gets mad
00:48 <smoothice> really quick?
00:48 <nsh22> shes just going on a  rant about me not doing my hw
00:48 <smoothice> k
00:48 <smoothice> do it
00:48 <Vanhayes> nhomework is overrated
00:48 <smoothice> ?
00:48 <smoothice> dude
00:49 <nsh22> i know :)
00:49 <smoothice> if you don't do your homework
00:49 <smoothice> you fail school
00:49 <smoothice> and don't get a good job
00:49 <smoothice> and fail life
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00:49 <Vanhayes> just do the "homework" in school then its done
00:49 <nsh22> i do my homework, but on my own terms
00:49 <smoothice> I have study hall at school but usually spend it playing N
00:50 <smoothice> unless I have a lot... then I do it lol
00:50 <PinkTomato> Just do yr homework when you get it :), do fun stuff later
00:51 <PinkTomato> Otherwise you'll be stressed every weekend :)
00:51 <smoothice> ok so I've got an essay due march 18
00:51 <smoothice> what am I supposed to do? do it all in one big chunk?
00:51 <smoothice> then I'd have no fun for a whole week
00:51 <PinkTomato> Depends how you study
00:51 <smoothice> It's an analytical essay on a book
00:51 <smoothice> -.-
00:52 <PinkTomato> Some people prefer to do a little bit each day
00:53 <smoothice> hmm
00:53 <smoothice> it depends for me I guess
00:54 <nsh22> morella is bout someone in the dak arts...???
00:54 <nsh22> fuck you edgar allan poe
00:54 <smoothice> @gtfy nsh22 morella
00:54 <teabot> nsh22: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=morella
00:55 <nsh22> i already did, thats how i found out...
00:55 <nsh22> @gtfy smoothice how to use lmgtfy at the right time :)
00:55 <teabot> smoothice: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=how%20to%20use%20lmgtfy%20at%20the%20right%20time%20%3A%29
00:55 <smoothice> ...
00:55 <nsh22> XD
00:55 <smoothice> XD
00:56 <smoothice> Currently removing Adobe Contribute CS3...
00:56 <nsh22> zurd forgot to change max clients back to ten after he tested wreckless
00:56 <smoothice> ...
00:56 <smoothice> did you set it back?
00:56 <nsh22> it was stuck at 2...
00:56 <nsh22> yes i did
00:56 <smoothice> k
00:56 <smoothice> zurd does that a lot
00:56 <smoothice> it seems
00:57 <nsh22> edgar allan poe writes some fucked up shit...
00:58 <smoothice> ...
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00:58 <nsh22> with a lot of incest
00:58 <smoothice> maybe ur fuckup up shit
00:58 <smoothice> loll!!!
00:58 <Maverik> potter aint on here is he?
00:58 <smoothice> nsh22: say sofa king max really fast in front of your mom
00:59 <smoothice> replace the word max with your mom's name
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00:59 <smoothice> Maverik: nope
00:59 <nsh22> in a story the character loves his wife, then wants her to die, she dies giving childbirth, her baby i a reinarnation of here, he names it (at the age of 10) morella after her mother, then he falls in love with his daughter, then she dies...
01:00 <nsh22> fukd much?
01:00 <smoothice> ?
01:00 <smoothice> lol
01:00 <Maverik> o...k
01:00 <smoothice> Maverik:
01:00 <smoothice> #seen potter
01:00 <@armabot> smoothice: I have not seen potter.
01:00 <smoothice> hmmm
01:00 <smoothice> @seen potter
01:01 <smoothice> The_Master: seen potter
01:01 <The_Master> smoothice: No I have not seen it. What's it like?
01:01 <Maverik> he was on arma a bit ago, it dunt matter, i was talking to him about summat on tv but he got cut off
01:01 <smoothice> #ls potter
01:01 <@armabot> smoothice: ppotter has last been seen on [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. 1 hour 7 minutes ago.
01:01 <smoothice> Maverik: is that him?
01:02 <Maverik> yeah, ppotter, it wasnt that long ago
01:02 <smoothice> k
01:02 <Maverik> i couldnt be arsed to reconnect to the game to talk talk to him, just wondered if he was on here
01:02 <Maverik> lol
01:03 <smoothice> LOL
01:03 <smoothice> #ls Maverik
01:03 <@armabot> smoothice: Maverik has last been seen on [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. 16 minutes ago.
01:03 <smoothice> heehee
01:03 <Maverik> yep
01:03 <nsh22> #ls neal
01:03 <@armabot> nsh22: Neal~NW has last been seen on  ~Night Walker's Central~DF~ 56 minutes ago.
01:03 <nsh22> :D
01:03 <nsh22> #ls smooth
01:03 <@armabot> nsh22: +|SmOoThice~NW seems to be on  ~Night Walker's Central~DF~ right now.
01:03 <smoothice> lol
01:03 <nsh22> whats with the +|
01:04 <smoothice> twitchers
01:04 <nsh22> ?
01:04 <smoothice> #ls smooth
01:04 <@armabot> smoothice: +|SmOoThice~NW seems to be on  ~Night Walker's Central~DF~ right now.
01:04 <nsh22> what is it?
01:05 <Maverik> #1s terridon
01:05 <Maverik> #Is terridon
01:05 <nsh22> its l s
01:05 <nsh22> as in L
01:06 <Maverik> ah k
01:06 <smoothice> #ls terridon
01:06 <@armabot> smoothice: Terridon has last been seen on [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. 1 hour 5 minutes ago.
01:06 <smoothice> #seen nexus
01:06 <nsh22> #ls quantum
01:06 <@armabot> smoothice: I have not seen nexus.
01:06 <@armabot> nsh22: QuantumSquirrel seems to be on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. right now.
01:06 <smoothice> lol
01:06 <nsh22> #ls quantam
01:06 <Maverik> #1s burnedout
01:06 <smoothice> #ls ARabid
01:06 <smoothice> LS
01:06 <smoothice> L S
01:06 <smoothice> ls
01:06 <@armabot> nsh22: timed out
01:06 <@armabot> smoothice: ARabidSquirrel seems to be on -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) right now.
01:06 <nsh22> i banned quantum (not the squirrl) for 600  mins
01:06 <smoothice> From where?
01:07 <nsh22> either mine or df
01:07 <smoothice> FRICK
01:07 <nsh22> i forget
01:07 <Maverik> bet time anyways, later
01:07 <nsh22> what?
01:07 <smoothice> If it was mine then I'm fricked up
01:07 <nsh22> how so?
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01:07 <nsh22> i thin it was df
01:07 <nsh22> ill check
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01:50 <nsh22> #m smoothice please change your leaving message, it make you look like a hick
01:51 <@armabot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
01:51 <luke-jr> ROFL
01:51 <nsh22> #m smoothice lol
01:51 <@armabot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
01:52 <nsh22> luke-jr:  does installing a new os (ie ubuntu) delete any files on say an external harddrive (if im installing it on that drive)
01:52 <luke-jr> nsh22: of course
01:52 <nsh22> ok
01:52 <nsh22> but it wouldnt touch any other file on the comp on other dirves?
01:53 <luke-jr> it could
01:53 <nsh22> o-o
01:53 <nsh22> how?
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02:24 <luke-jr> nsh22: "oops"
02:25 <nsh22> luke-jr: ...
02:25 <nsh22> :P
02:25 <luke-jr> accidents are always possible
02:25 <luke-jr> but that's why everyone keeps backups of everything important
02:25 <nsh22> but couldnt it delete the backups then?
02:26 <luke-jr> backups are of course not on the same computer
02:26 <nsh22> i c
02:26 <luke-jr> or at least not on the same HD, such that you can unplug the HD
02:27 <nsh22> if i unplug the hd, then how do i install ubuntu, my os is on my hd i think
02:31 <luke-jr> Ubuntu is your OS
02:32 <luke-jr> if you are installing it
02:33 <nsh22> ok... so the computer would stil install it under the external drive even if the internal is unplugged?
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02:46 <luke-jr> nsh22: should
02:46 <nsh22> ok ill try tat laterz
02:46 <nsh22> btw..
02:46 <luke-jr> be sure you turn the PC off before removing power from the drive tho
02:46 <luke-jr> (or plugging it back in)
02:47 <luke-jr> I'd unplug it from the wall too
02:47 <nsh22> luke-jr: what is the quckest way to move 10gb of random files and programs?
02:47 <luke-jr> but I can be paranoid sometimes
02:47 <nsh22> ok ty
02:47 <luke-jr> mv?
02:47 <nsh22> mv?
02:47 <luke-jr> could always drag and drop too I suppose
02:47 <nsh22> what is mv?
02:47 <luke-jr> #wtf mv
02:47 <nsh22> drag and drop takes over 120 mins
02:48 <luke-jr> rofl
02:48 <nsh22> but the estimator whent from anywhere from 30-130 mins
02:48 <nsh22> jumped around
02:48 <luke-jr> ok, so use cli
02:48 <nsh22> cli?
02:48 <luke-jr> I think the Windows command is 'move'
02:48 <luke-jr> but I could be wrong!
02:48 <nsh22> what if i put it in a zip?
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02:48 <luke-jr> that would be utterly slow
02:48 <luke-jr> sinewav: hi
02:48 <nsh22> ok
02:48 <nsh22> hey sine
02:48 <sinewav> hi hi
02:49 <luke-jr> nsh22: open a cmd prompt and move it
02:50 <nsh22> its from my external harddrive to a folder on my internal
02:50 <nsh22> will cmd prompt still work?
02:50 <luke-jr> why not?
02:50 <nsh22> i dunno
02:51 <nsh22> im not that good with cmd prompt stuff
02:51 <luke-jr> btw
02:51 <luke-jr> I hope you mean Kubuntu
02:52 <nsh22> Ubuntu
02:52 <luke-jr> ew
02:52 <nsh22> ubuntu 7.04 (or at least thats what the disk says
02:53 <luke-jr> ew + ancient <.<
02:53 <nsh22> i can upgrade it after i install it right?
02:53 <luke-jr> upgrade is a reinstall
02:53 <nsh22> fck
02:53 <luke-jr> 7.04 was only supported until October 2007
02:53 <nsh22> fiking comp science teacher and his out of date disks
02:54 <nsh22> he has hundreds of these
02:54 <luke-jr> ROFL
02:54 <nsh22> and ready to java program disks
02:54 <luke-jr> Ubuntu 8.04 should be supported until April 2011
02:54 <nsh22> ...
02:54 <luke-jr> (April 2013 for server edition)
02:55 <nsh22> how would i install it if my internal is unplugged?
02:55 <nsh22> if i dnt have the disk
02:55 <luke-jr> Ubuntu 8.10 is out also, but only supported until 2010
02:55 <luke-jr> you burn a disk, obviously
02:55 <nsh22> like just a normal cdr?
02:55 <luke-jr> yeah
02:56 <nsh22> k
02:56 <nsh22> ill do it later if i have time
02:56 <luke-jr> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
02:56 <luke-jr> but Kubuntu is far better
02:56 <luke-jr> http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download
02:58 <nsh22> why, cuz it has a k?
02:58 <nsh22> XD
02:58 <luke-jr> yeah]
02:58 <luke-jr> K > G
03:17 <nsh22> whew, finnally done that stupid project...
03:21 <nsh22> #night
03:21 <@armabot> Good night nsh22!
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04:13 <Pathetique> ffs
04:14 <Pathetique> Would anyone be so kind as to tell me where I can find this "zones.txt" that is supposedly hidden somewhere on the forum?
04:15 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-newspam] r1089 doc || [0.2.8-armagetronad-newspam] r1088 const correct || [0.2.8-armagetronad-newspam] r1087 Added help strings and default settings... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-newspam] r1086 ifdef DEBUG || [0.2.8-armagetronad-newspam] r1085 Reduced number of saved entries, and adjusted a prefix multi... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-newspam] r1084 raising required prefix spam score, and reducing length mult
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04:35 <Pathetique> anyone? o.0
04:36 <ct|kyle> oi Pathetique
04:36 <Pathetique> Finally! There is life out there after all!
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04:38 <Pathetique> -.-
04:38 <luke-jr> …
04:38 <luke-jr> err, we have a new 0.2.8 branch? -.-
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04:38  * luke-jr foresees a 0.2.8.4
04:38 <Pathetique> luke-jr, have you any clue in your seemingly infinite wisdom as to where I can obtain this elusive zones.txt?
04:39  * Pathetique foresees a 1.3.3.7
04:39 <luke-jr> Pathetique: never heard of it
04:40 <Pathetique> its in the zones v2 wiki page.
04:40 <luke-jr> link
04:40 <ct|kyle> #aawiki zones v2
04:40 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Search took 0.48 seconds: Zones v2 - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Zones_v2>; Talk: Zones v2 - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Talk:Zones_v2>; Development Docs - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Development_Docs>
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04:40 <cpayan> say is there any idea when 0.3 will come out?
04:40 <Pathetique> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Zones_v2#Target
04:40 <luke-jr> hi dlh
04:40 <cpayan> or is that "in the future"
04:40 <Pathetique> That's the link.
04:40 <luke-jr> cpayan: "0.3" is not a release
04:40 <dlh> hi
04:40 <cpayan> it's...
04:40 <luke-jr> 0.3 is a series
04:41 <cpayan> well
04:41 <luke-jr> 0.3.0 is a release, already out
04:41 <cpayan> 0.3.1
04:41 <luke-jr> 0.3.1 is the next 0.3 release, and in progress with no ETA
04:41 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma is in charge of 0.3.1
04:41 <luke-jr> and needs a job
04:41 <Pathetique> LOL
04:41 <luke-jr> would you like to hire him? ☺
04:41 <cpayan> would he like to hire me?
04:42 <luke-jr> maybe if you pay him enough to hire you
04:42 <mkzelda> #w 27545
04:42 <@armabot> mkzelda: Search took 0.37 seconds: Nowy Dwór Mazowiecki County - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nowy_Dw%C3%B3r_Mazowiecki_County>; Masovian Voivodeship - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masovian_Voivodeship>; List of counties in Nevada - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: (3 more messages)
04:42 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: what's a site firefox messes up badly
04:42 <mkzelda> #weather 27545
04:42 <@armabot> mkzelda: The current temperature in Hedingham, Raleigh, North Carolina is 22.3°F (10:42 PM EST on March 03, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 14.0°F. Windchill: 23.0°F. Pressure: 29.53 in 999.9 hPa (Rising).
04:42 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: Gambas' site IIRC
04:42 <Pathetique> luke-jr: you see where it says "Much more are detailed..."
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04:44 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: that must be fixed in their  latest preAlpha
04:44 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: could be
04:44 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: it's not white on bright-blue?
04:45 <luke-jr> or rather
04:45 <luke-jr> GAMBAS changed their site
04:45 <luke-jr> :<
04:45 <Pathetique> ><
04:45 <ct|kyle> lol
04:45 <luke-jr> Pathetique: Google says said file does not exist
04:45 <Pathetique> hmm.
04:47 <luke-jr> Pathetique: please feel free to revamp the wiki
04:48 <luke-jr> Pathetique: ph is long gone, so ask me any questions you need answered
04:48 <luke-jr> I'm far from an expert, but I suspect I now know Zv2 better than anyone still alive
04:48  * luke-jr glares at Pathetique
04:48 <Pathetique> So, does the teleport function work yet?
04:48 <luke-jr> that is not a license to PM me -.-
04:48 <luke-jr> teleport function? ☺
04:49 <Pathetique> yes
04:49 <Pathetique> a teleport zone
04:49 <luke-jr> I don't think anything like that exists
04:49 <Pathetique> that is talked about
04:49 <Pathetique> it says "planned"
04:49 <Pathetique> next to it
04:49 <luke-jr> maybe the respawn effect can be abused, not sure
04:49 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: any other sites?
04:49 <luke-jr> Pathetique: ok, then consider it planned
04:49 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: dunno, google
04:49 <Pathetique> I know one of the crazy tron folk had made a hackaround for it
04:49 <Pathetique> Using scripting
04:49 <luke-jr> …
04:49 <Pathetique> that when certain players died in some place
04:49 <Pathetique> they were respawned somewhar else
04:50 <luke-jr> >_<
04:50 <Pathetique> ok, so, that's out of the question then.
04:50 <luke-jr> for now
04:50 <Pathetique> indeed
04:50 <luke-jr> it's on my goal list, but for borders
04:50 <luke-jr> I should be able to make the borders share stuff with zones tho
04:50 <Pathetique> Do acceleration zones work?
04:50 <Pathetique> I know rubber-eating ones do
04:50 <luke-jr> I think so
04:50 <Pathetique> :D
04:51 <Pathetique> Saweet
04:51 <luke-jr> there are no rubber-eating ones right now
04:51 <luke-jr> that comes when someone ports CT to trunk
04:51 <ct|kyle> it seams to me like the rendering it a lot different now in firefox
04:51 <Pathetique> *points to some racing server*
04:51 <luke-jr> Pathetique: that's not running mainline
04:51 <Pathetique> oic
04:51 <luke-jr> nor trunk I expect
04:51 <Pathetique> Its hoops server
04:51 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: are you a CT dev?
04:51 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: me and voodoo will probaboly start that porting soon
04:51 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: before or after sty is done?
04:52 <Pathetique> It would be really 1337 if we had acceleration zones
04:52 <Pathetique> I shall have to try it.
04:52 <ct|kyle> we will start before sty is done then add in sty and finish it up
04:52 <luke-jr> cool
04:54 <luke-jr> ]later tell *z*man* Any reason we couldn't use a stacked branch to make the migration to Bazaar in such a way that pre-Bzr history actually goes to the Subversion server every time?
04:54 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
04:55 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: I suggest the CT team merge and join the main devteam working on trunk ☺
04:56 <ct|kyle> I think the first thing is to merge sty+ct into trunk then go from there
04:56 <luke-jr> yeah
04:56 <luke-jr> but I mean in the future, focus efforts on merges to trunk
04:57 <luke-jr> instead of forking again
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04:58 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: ya, probaboly
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05:18 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-newspam] r1090 fixed CommonPrefix...
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05:32 <smoothice> luke-jr: you're telling people not to fork 0.2.8 again?
05:33 <luke-jr> smoothice: no, in this case it was not to fork trunk
05:34 <smoothice> ?
05:34 <smoothice> nevermind
05:34  * smoothice would continue working on sty if luke-jr could mentor me to get a flag zone working
05:35 <smoothice> and then ct|kyle would be happy
05:35 <luke-jr> I have the time
05:35 <smoothice> now?
05:36 <luke-jr> yes
05:36 <smoothice> I have to go relatively soon... but I was wondering if you could look into my code and see if you see anything causing trouble. Then you could commit a fix
05:36 <smoothice> since we're on the same team
05:36 <luke-jr> perhaps
05:37 <smoothice> to be honest with you, I'm totally stuck right now and I feel kinda dumb that I cannot figure out why the zone doesn't show
05:38 <luke-jr> that's the hardest thing to debug :<
05:38 <smoothice> a zones v1 "flag" zone
05:38 <smoothice> :(
05:39 <luke-jr> …
05:39 <luke-jr> wtf?
05:39 <smoothice> ?
05:40 <smoothice> huh?
05:41 <smoothice> luke-jr: ?
05:42 <luke-jr> what u talking about v1 for?
05:42 <smoothice> well you said to test the flag zone I could use a v1 map, which I already had made
05:42 <smoothice> like fort
05:43 <luke-jr> good idea, tell me a good v1 flag map
05:43 <smoothice> ctfsty-0.0.2
05:43 <ct|kyle> wait
05:43 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: what's a standard CTF map?
05:43 <smoothice> -.-
05:43 <smoothice> ctfsty-0.0.2
05:44 <luke-jr> that isn't a valid filepath
05:44 <ct|kyle> it is in your_mom/clever/
05:44 <smoothice> Your_mom/clever/ctfsty-0.0.2.aamap.xml
05:45 <ct|kyle> why is it not on the repository agin
05:45 <smoothice> I don't know
05:45 <luke-jr> Your_mom didn't upload it?
05:46 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/kyle/ctf/ctf_spork-0.0.1.aamap.xml
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05:46 <ct|kyle> use that one
05:46 <luke-jr> y
05:46 <ct|kyle> I think the Your_mom/clever/ctfsty-0.0.2.aamap.xml uses base zone
05:46 <ct|kyle> and mine uses fortress instead
05:46 <smoothice> base zone?
05:46 <luke-jr> base zone?
05:46 <smoothice> ????
05:47 <ct|kyle> so that could be smoothice's problem, it does not know hot to handle zone type of base
05:47 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: yours has everything commented out
05:47 <ct|kyle> how*
05:47 <smoothice> It's uses fortress
05:47 <smoothice> ctfsty-0.0.2
05:47 <ct|kyle> uncomment it serverside
05:48 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: no -.-
05:48 <luke-jr> that is bad
05:48 <ct|kyle> or uncomment it on there
05:48 <ct|kyle> :P
05:48 <luke-jr> that is illegal
05:48 <luke-jr> make a proper version
05:48 <luke-jr> -.-
05:48 <smoothice> why not just test with ctfsty-0.0.2.aamap.xml
05:48 <luke-jr> smoothice: mayeb I WILL
05:48 <smoothice> Your_mom/clever/ctfsty-0.0.2.aamap.xml
05:49 <ct|kyle> yes but that has no zones in the repository
05:49 <smoothice> ctfsty-0.0.2 isn't even in the repository
05:50 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: yours has no zones in the repository
05:50 <ct|kyle> at least they are three to uncomment serverside
05:51 <luke-jr> that is broken
05:51 <smoothice> guys this isn't that complicated
05:51 <smoothice> ctfsty-0.0.2.aamap.xml
05:56 <luke-jr> smoothice: your code doesn't even compile
05:56 <smoothice> ?
05:56 <smoothice> errors?
05:57 <luke-jr> ../../src/tron/zone/zFlag.cpp: In member function 'virtual bool zFlagZone::Timestep(float)':
05:57 <luke-jr> ../../src/tron/zone/zFlag.cpp:197: warning: control reaches end of non-void function
05:57 <smoothice> hmm
05:57 <smoothice> :(
05:57 <smoothice> what's the error in the Timestep?
05:58 <luke-jr> you're not returning
05:58 <smoothice> can you fix it ?
05:58 <luke-jr> yes
06:00 <smoothice> ok thanks
06:00 <luke-jr> [0] The map Your_mom/clever/ctfsty-0.0.2.aamap.xml could not be loaded or parsed; please check your configuration and the log.
06:02 <smoothice> map_file Your_mom/clever/ctfsty-0.0.2.aamap.xml(http://smootharma.ath.cx/resource/Your_mom/clever/ctfsty-0.0.2.aamap.xml)
06:03 <luke-jr> SSOAN/CTF/ctfsty-0.0.3.aamap.xml
06:03 <smoothice> k
06:03 <smoothice> it works?
06:04 <luke-jr> nope
06:05 <smoothice> no zones show up?
06:05 <luke-jr> crash
06:05 <luke-jr> because you didn't make it a module like I told you to
06:15 <luke-jr> -.-
06:15 <luke-jr> smoothice: zFlag.cpp contains a crash guarantee
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06:22 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r872 make flags a module || [armagetronad-v2sty] r871 return false in Timestep
06:22 <luke-jr> wtf is Unnamed-20821A8
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06:44 <SoBeiT> hey!!!
06:44 <SoBeiT> long time no seeee
06:45 <luke-jr> yarly
06:45 <luke-jr> so come by more often!
06:45 <SoBeiT> luke!
06:45 <SoBeiT> hai!
06:45 <SoBeiT> =D
06:45 <luke-jr> O.o
06:45 <SoBeiT> #seen kyle
06:45 <@armabot> SoBeiT: I have not seen kyle.
06:45 <SoBeiT> #seen ct|kyle
06:45 <@armabot> SoBeiT: ct|kyle was last seen in #armagetron 55 minutes and 18 seconds ago: <ct|kyle> at least they are three to uncomment serverside
06:46 <SoBeiT> luke, do u know if zombies, instead of killing someone, can take away their rubber?
06:46 <luke-jr> no idea, zombies aren't really part of Armagetron yet
06:46 <SoBeiT> they are awesome
06:46 <SoBeiT> i introduced them to sumo and its going great
06:47 <SoBeiT> #si zombie
06:47 <@armabot> SoBeiT: Armagetron Classic »Zombie Sumo«: Players (7/10): -=}ID< zac, Beelzebub, BOOM SHIKA!!!, MWDoc=-, owllwo, preSsure, regiT
06:47 <SoBeiT> wanna go play luke?
06:47 <luke-jr> bi
06:47 <luke-jr> no*
06:47 <SoBeiT> aww ok
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06:52 <GodTodd> luke-jr's bi?  that explains a lot
06:52 <ct|kyle> #am SoBeiT possible, but yet another hack
06:52 <ct|kyle> #m SoBeiT possible, but yet another hack
06:52 <@armabot> ct|kyle: The operation succeeded.
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07:08 <Pathetique> LOL Todd.
07:10 <Pathetique> Hmm.
07:11 <Pathetique> He realizes that he didn't accomplish anything crazy1337 like he think he did
07:11 <Pathetique> by "introducing" zombies to sumo?
07:12 <Pathetique> A braindead monkey could frak the keyboard and have that be the result.
07:26 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r873 misc fixes
07:26 <BabyBug> luke-jr, Unnamed-20821A8 is emphasis
07:29 <luke-jr> wtf is that
07:31 <BabyBug> ...
07:31  * BabyBug kicks luke-jr off a cliff
07:37 <Pathetique> gn all
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08:36 <Lucifer_arma> hey kids rock and roll, rock on (oooo my soul)
08:36 <BabyBug> :|
08:36 <BabyBug> been drinking again Lucifer_arma?
08:36 <Lucifer_arma> no
08:37 <BabyBug> sure? ^o)
08:37 <Lucifer_arma> well, I managed to get pretty wasted last saturday, or did I mention that already?
08:37 -!- Lucifer_arma is now known as Lucifer
08:37 <BabyBug> aye mentioned that one
08:38 <Lucifer> ah, that's how you can tell I don't drink much
08:38 <Lucifer> I keep talking about the last time I drank, and it's the same thing I've been saying for awhile, heh
08:42 <BabyBug> >.<...
08:43 <Lucifer> well, if it's not what you know, but who you know, then I made a biiiiig mistake marrying that psycho
08:43 <BabyBug> eh? that was random...
08:44 <Lucifer> not totally
08:44 <Lucifer> it's about finding a job
08:45 <BabyBug> oh, still not job yet? =\
08:45 <Lucifer> above a certain level of professionalism in a job, most job openings are filled by friends
08:45 <BabyBug> no*
08:45 <Lucifer> no, still no job
08:45 <BabyBug> hrmph! =(
08:45 <Lucifer> but my ex used to get very jealous about any friendship I tried to establish, even professional friendships
08:45 <Lucifer> which means, of course, that right now, I'm having a hard time because of it
08:45 <Lucifer> not completely because of that, but that's a contributing factor
08:46 <BabyBug> ooo ok, not so random then ^^
08:46 <Lucifer> I'm not having trouble making new friends, the problem is that most of the people I'm getting to know now just haven't known me long enough to recommend me for a job
08:46 <Lucifer> hell, she used to interrogate me every time I said something like "todd and I were talking the other day and..."
08:47 <Lucifer> anyway, I'm sure that in my new network of friends, something will turn up if I can hang in there long enough
08:47 <Lucifer> problem is determining what length of time is represented by the phrase "long enough"
08:47 <BabyBug> or win the lottery! =D
08:47 <Lucifer> heh
08:47 <Lucifer> I'm too cheap to even play the lottery
08:47 <BabyBug> =(
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10:03 <BabyBug> that's him luke-jr!!
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13:16 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9112 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (5 files in 5 dirs): Manuel Moos: Added LAG_FREQUENCY_THRESHOLD to better deal with lag clusterbombs.
13:24 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9113 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. language/deutsch.txt language/english_base.txt): Manuel Moos: Updated translation and clarified original.
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13:26 <BabyBug> more translations \o/
13:36 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1089 Updated translation and clarified original.... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1088 Added LAG_FREQUENCY_THRESHOLD to better deal with lag cluste...
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14:38 <PinkTomato> #ping
14:38 <@armabot> pong
14:38 <PinkTomato> ]ping
14:38 <ljrbot> pong
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14:55 <dlhbot> pong
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15:01 <PinkTomato> hehe ^_^
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15:03 <Pathetique> \o all
15:06 <Pathetique> #alias list
15:06 <Pathetique> #ping
15:06 <@armabot> pong
15:07 <BabyBug> #fingers
15:07  * armabot orgasms
15:07 <BabyBug> (A)
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15:08 <Lizmatic> WHAT
15:08  * Lizmatic looks around the room
15:09 <Pathetique> LOL
15:09 <Pathetique> Hi liz!
15:09 <Lizmatic> hii
15:09  * BabyBug tickles her baby! <333333
15:10  * Lizmatic slaps BabyBug
15:10 <Lizmatic> don't cheat on me bitch
15:10 <BabyBug> I didn't!
15:10 <Lizmatic> with armabot :(
15:10 <BabyBug> =x
15:10  * Lizmatic makes sad fae
15:10 <Lizmatic> face*
15:10 <BabyBug> nuuu not that face =(
15:12 <Pathetique> #whofarted
15:12 <@armabot> dlh farted!
15:12 <Pathetique> LOL
15:12 <Pathetique> lawl?
15:14 <Pathetique> How you doin, Liz?
15:15  * z-man fights the overwhelming urge to do manly man things for contrast
15:15 <Pathetique> lol
15:15 <Pathetique> #where
15:15 <@armabot> The biggest noob, Pathetique, is right here!
15:15 <Pathetique> yaey
15:15 <Pathetique> lol
15:15 <Pathetique> #whofarted
15:15 <@armabot> Pathetique farted!
15:15 <Pathetique> did not
15:15 <Pathetique> !
15:15 <BabyBug> z-man, you say that as if you have the capability to do manly man things =)
15:16 <Pathetique> *oooooooooh*
15:16 <Pathetique> _lololol_
15:16 <Lizmatic> I'm fine path, you?
15:16 <z-man> Down a sixpack of beer and belch like satan? sure can do.
15:16 <Pathetique> lol!
15:16  * Lizmatic uses her sad face to convert Pathetique to loving women
15:16 <BabyBug> z-man, that doesn't make you a man! that makes you a drunk!...oh wait..same thing =\
15:17 <Pathetique> I'm doing fantastic.  I'm tron leader of .dBd| along with Sonic
15:17 <Pathetique> LOL@BabyBu
15:17 <Pathetique> g
15:17 <Lizmatic> Um.. you are?
15:17 <Pathetique> neh, no worky.
15:17 <Lizmatic> What happened to nano and TT :(
15:17 <Lizmatic> I MISS TT
15:17 <Pathetique> Mhm. :)
15:17 <Lizmatic> TT's gf ate him didn't she
15:17 <Lizmatic> O_O
15:17 <Pathetique> He hasn't risen from between his girlfriend's thighs in a long time.
15:18 <Pathetique> He came on tron a while back in CTF
15:18 <Pathetique> we had a dbd reunion
15:18 <Pathetique> 'twas fun.
15:18 <Lizmatic> and I wasn't invited
15:18 <Lizmatic> great :<
15:18  * Pathetique is sorry
15:18 <z-man> #m luke-jr stacked branches are just an optimization, they don't help if bzr considers the branches diverged. As is the case with our current trunk and any restarted trunk with full history, no way around it.
15:18 <@armabot> z-man: The operation succeeded.
15:18 <Lizmatic> Didn't you eh join that clan zoid made
15:18 <Lizmatic> the republik? lol
15:19 <Pathetique> Nope
15:19 <Pathetique> Pala did, but I didn't.
15:19 <Pathetique> I've stuck with dBd.
15:19 <Pathetique> :)
15:19 <Lizmatic> Tron sucks now.. old days were fun
15:19 <Pathetique> Tron will get better.
15:19 <Pathetique> :)
15:20 <Lizmatic> no :( not oldschool anymore
15:20  * Lizmatic likes playing WoW more anyway
15:20  * Lizmatic glares at BB
15:20 <BabyBug> WoW is the game of satanists!
15:20 <Lizmatic> YOU PLAYED IT TILL LVL 40+
15:21 <BabyBug> AND?!?
15:21 <Lizmatic> that means you liked it! hahahah!
15:21 <BabyBug> No. It means i can't say no to you when you asked me to start! 8-)
15:21 <Lizmatic> I didn't force you to continue playing :|
15:22 <Lizmatic> I didn't force you to buy a 60 days gamecard :|
15:22 <BabyBug> You did!
15:22 <Lizmatic> DID NOT
15:22 <BabyBug> DID! :@
15:22 <Pathetique> lmao
15:22  * Lizmatic fists BB
15:22 <Pathetique> :o
15:22 <BabyBug> NO! No fisting whore
15:22 <BabyBug> 2 fingers max! :@
15:22 <Pathetique> LMAO
15:23 <Lizmatic> that's not what you said last night
15:23 <BabyBug> Yes it was! You can't even remember last night... >.<
15:23 <Lizmatic> :x
15:23 <BabyBug> drunken skank xD
15:23 <Lizmatic> O!
15:23 <Lizmatic> old woman
15:23 <Lizmatic> ..
15:23 <BabyBug> !!
15:24 <Lizmatic> something  tells me I shouldn't of said that
15:24 <Pathetique> #quote add "WoW is the game of satanists! -- BabyBug"
15:24 <@armabot> Pathetique: The operation succeeded.  Quote #90 added.
15:24 <BabyBug> you biatch...
15:24 <Pathetique> #quote 90
15:24 <@armabot> Pathetique: There is nothing that can be in our way, for this is Jekub, that Laughs at Barriers, and says brrm-brrm." -- From the Book Of Nome, Jekub, Chap. 3, v. V (Terry Pratchett, Diggers)
15:24  * Lizmatic kisses BB all over
15:24 <Pathetique> ffs
15:24 <Lizmatic> see, armabot agrees with me
15:24 <BabyBug> psssht go away Lisa...I'm not old! :@
15:24 <Lizmatic> WoW is teh pwn
15:24 <Lizmatic> yes you are BB, you're a MILF
15:25 <Lizmatic> :D
15:25 <Pathetique> #quote get 90
15:25 <@armabot> Pathetique: Quote #90: "WoW is the game of satanists! -- BabyBug" (added by Pathetique at 03:24 PM, March 04, 2009)
15:25 <Pathetique> lololol
15:25  * Lizmatic does not agree
15:25  * BabyBug glares at Lisa
15:25  * Pathetique feels 1337 cause he added and retrieved a quote from Armabot
15:25 <BabyBug> hrmm
15:25 <BabyBug> #quote get 83
15:25 <@armabot> BabyBug: Quote #83: "<Lizmatic> wtfzomg ady-lucifer and lucifer aren't the same guys?! !!!?!"" (added by Lucifer_arma at 10:57 PM, December 16, 2008)
15:26 <BabyBug> #quote get 84
15:26 <@armabot> BabyBug: Quote #84: "<cusco> #quote search *cusco*  <armabot> cusco: No matching quotes were found." (added by Lucifer_arma at 11:54 PM, December 19, 2008)
15:26 <BabyBug> aww can't remember the number
15:26 <Pathetique> #quote get 69
15:26 <@armabot> Pathetique: Quote #69: "gentoo ebuild is as broken as luke-jr himself :D ~xfroggy" (added by ct|kyle at 06:23 PM, January 26, 2008)
15:26 <PinkTomato> #quote search WoW
15:26 <@armabot> PinkTomato: 2 found: #51: "<DrJoeTron> speaking of microsoft, i decided to..." and #90: "WoW is the game of satanists! -- BabyBug"
15:26 <Pathetique> #quote get 51
15:26 <@armabot> Pathetique: Quote #51: "<DrJoeTron> speaking of microsoft, i decided to actually give the zune the time of day and looked at what the hell it really does, and wow, way to take something with alot of potential and just destroy it microsoft <Lucifer_arma> that's what they've always done ... take electric potential and turn it into waste" (added by epsy at 10:40 PM, July 13, 2007)
15:27 <Pathetique> #quote search luke-jr
15:27 <@armabot> Pathetique: 16 found: #20: "ok luci, you'd know better on this one -- luke-jr", #21: "<Luke-Jr_work__> btw, pedophile is good", #23: "<spidey> you wanna fuck Luke-Jr ?", #26: "<Lucifer_arma> I want fundamentalism just so I...", #45: "better an idiot that can admit it than a luke-...", #59: "-Kick- You have been kicked from channel...", #60: "<luke-jr> fanatics are good", #63: "GodTodd: definition (2 more messages)
15:27 <Pathetique> more
15:27 <Pathetique> #more
15:27 <@armabot> Pathetique: of great : agrees with...", #64: "[14:14] <luke-jr> and needless to say, don't...", #68: "[12:54] <luke-jr> …. ok, you win", #69: "gentoo ebuild is as broken as luke-jr himself...", #70: "(20:09:38) luke-jr: StickyNoob: what does that...", #73: "<Lucifer> if you don't want to nitpick, don't...", #80: "<luke-jr> Intel GPU pwns <luke-jr> CPU sucks", #81: "GodTodd: that lightning is (1 more message)
15:27 <Pathetique> #more
15:27 <@armabot> Pathetique: just God aiming for...", and #86: "<luke-jr> I'm still grasping at corks to plug..."
15:27 <Pathetique> quote get 81
15:27 <Lizmatic> Stop that
15:27 <Pathetique> oic
15:27 <Pathetique> #quote get 81
15:28 <BabyBug> don't listen to the bitch
15:28 <@armabot> Pathetique: Quote #81: "GodTodd: that lightning is just God aiming for luke-jr and missing" (added by ct|kyle at 07:50 AM, August 05, 2008)
15:28 <Pathetique> LOL
15:28 <Lizmatic> What's that granny? xD
15:28 <BabyBug> :O!!!!!!
15:28 <Lizmatic> OO BURN!
15:28 <StickyNoob> #quote get 70
15:28 <@armabot> StickyNoob: Quote #70: "(20:09:38) luke-jr: StickyNoob: what does that have to do with your dick?" (added by K-Yo at 08:15 PM, February 20, 2008)
15:28 <Pathetique> #quote search peanut
15:28 <@armabot> Pathetique: No matching quotes were found.
15:28 <BabyBug> just cause i won't let you sleep with me Lizmatic! :@
15:28 <Pathetique> meh
15:29 <PinkTomato> #quote search Pathetique
15:29 <Pathetique> I tire of the quotes thing
15:29 <Pathetique> lolol
15:29 <@armabot> PinkTomato: 1 found: #74: "Pathetique: I find it funny how ivantis can..."
15:29 <PinkTomato> #quote get 74
15:29 <Pathetique> #quote get 74
15:29 <@armabot> PinkTomato: Quote #74: "Pathetique: I find it funny how ivantis can write C++ but has no clue how to actually write it." (added by ct|kyle at 09:07 PM, July 28, 2008)
15:29 <Pathetique> LOL
15:29 <@armabot> Pathetique: Quote #74: "Pathetique: I find it funny how ivantis can write C++ but has no clue how to actually write it." (added by ct|kyle at 09:07 PM, July 28, 2008)
15:29 <PinkTomato> LOL ^_^
15:29 <PinkTomato> #quote search PinkTomato
15:29 <Pathetique> tis true, too.
15:29 <@armabot> PinkTomato: No matching quotes were found.
15:29 <Lizmatic> I always confuse PinkTomato and Pathetique as the same person, now I know why..
15:29 <Pathetique> Porque?
15:29 <Pathetique> Oh, the LOLs at simple stuff
15:30 <Lizmatic> Que?
15:30 <Pathetique> right?
15:30 <Lizmatic> Si
15:30 <Pathetique> :D
15:30 <PinkTomato> hehe :)
15:30  * Lizmatic pinches BB's nipples
15:30 <Pathetique> ohmy!
15:30  * BabyBug gets the nipple and clit clamps :@
15:31 <Lizmatic> ...........
15:31 <Pathetique> o_o
15:31 <Pathetique> scissor sisters!
15:31 <BabyBug> i'll drag you around with that chain bitch..
15:31 <PinkTomato> eek
15:32 <Lizmatic> Isn't it time for your elderly afternoon nap BB?!?!?!
15:33 <BabyBug> skank..
15:33 <Pathetique> #king
15:33 <@armabot> kong
15:33 <Pathetique> :D
15:33 <Pathetique> lolol
15:33 <Lizmatic> you love me
15:33 <BabyBug> no i dont
15:33 <Pathetique> #skank
15:33 <BabyBug> i love your sad face...rest of you is fugly!
15:33 <Pathetique> #alias add skank say skonk
15:33 <@armabot> Pathetique: The operation succeeded.
15:33 <Pathetique> #skank
15:33 <@armabot> skonk
15:33 <Lizmatic> You love me bitch!
15:34 <BabyBug> do not!
15:34 <Lizmatic> :(
15:34 <BabyBug> ok i do =(
15:34 <Lizmatic> LOL!
15:34 <Pathetique> cyburzeckz.
15:34 <PinkTomato> If love were simple.
15:34  * Lizmatic drags BB off into the sunset \o/
15:34 <BabyBug> and you say you're not a romantic..
15:34 <BabyBug> =P
15:34 <Lizmatic> :D
15:35 <BabyBug> Pathetique, not quite...almost though ;) *cough*
15:35 <Pathetique> lawl
15:36 <Lizmatic> How can you ALMOST have cybursecks?xD
15:36 <Pathetique> trudat
15:37 <BabyBug> Perhaps i should paste that one chatlog and ask Pathetique to decide! 8-)
15:37 <Lizmatic> ...
15:37 <Pathetique> neh
15:37 <Lizmatic> NO.
15:37 <BabyBug> xD
15:37 <Pathetique> <-- lost interest, moving back to Map Making
15:37 <Pathetique> LOL
15:37 <Lizmatic> BB he doesn't care, he's gay
15:38 <BabyBug> perfect non biased opinion then! :P
15:38 <BabyBug> (i lost focus, what were we talking about?)
15:38 <Pathetique> (iunno)
15:38 <Lizmatic> something about you being a MIFL
15:39 <Lizmatic> MILF*
15:39 <Pathetique> LOL
15:39 <BabyBug> #kick Lizmatic :@
15:39 -!- Lizmatic [n=Lizmatic@78-27-12-206.dsl.alice.nl] has left #armagetron [requested by armabot: ":@"]
15:39 <Pathetique> LOL
15:39 <Pathetique> srsly?
15:39 -!- Lizmatic [n=Lizmatic@78-27-12-206.dsl.alice.nl] has joined #armagetron
15:39 <Pathetique> that's not a cool alias
15:39 <Lizmatic> :x
15:39 <BabyBug> 8-)
15:39 <Pathetique> I think #roulette is better
15:39 <Pathetique> #roulette
15:39 <@armabot> Pathetique: *click*
15:39 <Lizmatic> you kicked me =9
15:39 <Pathetique> your turn BB
15:40 <BabyBug> #roulette
15:40 <@armabot> BabyBug: *click*
15:40 <BabyBug> ^^
15:40 <Pathetique> #roulette
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15:40  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
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15:40 <Pathetique> That fucking hoar.
15:40 <noob13> hehe
15:40 <Pathetique> LOL!
15:40 <noob13> #roulette
15:40 <@armabot> noob13: *click*
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15:41 <Pathetique> who /msged that one?
15:41 <Pathetique> o.o
15:41  * BabyBug dusts off her halo
15:41 <Pathetique> LOL
15:42 <PinkTomato> #r
15:42  * Lizmatic leaves h3arTbr0Ken!
15:42 -!- Lizmatic [n=Lizmatic@78-27-12-206.dsl.alice.nl] has quit ["Leaving"]
15:42 <BabyBug> oh darn it
15:43 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1090 Fixed comment typos....
15:45 -!- coldcrow [n=chatzill@77-64-161-27.dynamic.primacom.net] has joined #armagetron
15:50 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9114 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/tron/gGame.cpp): Manuel Moos: Fixed comment typos.
15:53 <BabyBug> #servers
15:53 <@armabot> BabyBug: This data is 52 seconds old; - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (14/16), Bugfarm Elimination Sumo (11/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (8/14), WILDCAT (6/8), Wild West  =Sumo= (6/14), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (5/12), The YELLOW Submarine (5/12), -=Prutopolis=- -=Dog Fight=- (4/16), Swampland Mud Puddle (4/8), -  [ Nano's Playground | Nano Standard ]  -         . (4/8), [] Cheers! [] The (2 more messages)
15:53 <BabyBug> #si bugfarm
15:53 <@armabot> BabyBug: Bugfarm Elimination Sumo: Players (9/12): -»|boo, -»|þsy, CTxGonZaP, delueks, JaNiS, newly wed!!!!!!, tade, Z-Man, |Tr33|
15:54 <Pathetique> Wow
15:54 <Pathetique> What're people doing in Nano's server? o.0
15:54 <Pathetique> Nobody ever plays there.
15:54 <Pathetique> LOL
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16:05 <SoBeiT> aloha!
16:05 <Pathetique> SoBeiT: you realize you didn't accomplish anything spectacular by "introducing" zombies to sumo
16:05 <Pathetique> right?
16:05 <SoBeiT> Thanks for letting me know =)
16:06 <Pathetique> Your welcome :)
16:06 <Pathetique> Its been tried and done and failed.  Sumo players are picky about their settings.
16:06 <SoBeiT> I think people enjoy it more than regular sumo though
16:06 <Pathetique> Maybe for a select few.
16:06 <SoBeiT> Well, whoever tried it failed =)
16:06 <SoBeiT> Mine's doing fine.  Why the sudden attack?
16:06 <Lucifer> anybody can belch like satan, but only I can fart like satan
16:07 <Pathetique> Not sudden attack.
16:07 <Pathetique> Helpful criticism.
16:07 -!- PinkTomato [n=sam@hn-33-170.brookes.ac.uk] has quit ["Leaving."]
16:07 <Pathetique> Trying to get you off of something that will end up being fairly crusty.
16:07 <SoBeiT> Not very helpful to me, sorry.
16:07 <Lucifer> SoBeiT: it's poorly phrased criticism
16:07 -!- smoothice [n=smoothic@97-122-119-120.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #armagetron
16:07 <Pathetique> indeed
16:07 <SoBeiT> Hi smoothice =)
16:07 <Lucifer> you know, criticism phrased in such a way that it would be taken as an insult
16:08 <smoothice> SoBeiT: hi
16:08 <Lucifer> unlikely to be intended to be insulting, just symptomatic of a severe lack of communication skills
16:08 <Pathetique> <-- tired
16:08 <SoBeiT> It's one person against many that feel like this, nothing I can do to help the sour attitudes of tron =)
16:08 <SoBeiT> Bye Bye =)
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16:08 <Pathetique> rofl
16:08 <Pathetique> lightweight.
16:08 <BabyBug> Lucifer, You're fat! <--- You mean like that?
16:08 <Pathetique> I'm trying to wrap my brain around how Monitors work in Zones v2
16:09 <Lucifer> hey, I don't take such things seriously from a woman who has a 2 finger limit
16:09 <Pathetique> LMAO
16:09 <Pathetique> I don't have much room left for thinking about how to phrase things like that in a nice way.
16:09 <Lucifer> Pathetique: small brain?  sorry
16:09 <BabyBug> hey! any more hurts!
16:09 <smoothice> ^ Fail
16:09 <Lucifer> BabyBug: not if it's done right
16:10 <Lucifer> oh wait, you're really small, aren't you?
16:10 <Lucifer> I might have to take all that back
16:10  * Lucifer thinks about it for a minute
16:10 <Pathetique> idk, AFAIK I have a normal size brain.
16:10 <BabyBug> yes very small :P
16:11 <Lucifer> now, who do I call to see if street performing is legal in downtown austin?
16:12 <BabyBug> erm..local police thingy?
16:12 <BabyBug> what do you have? sherriffs?
16:12 <BabyBug> or...a lawyer?
16:16 <Pathetique> Lucifer: First check if your local town/city's statutes require a licene
16:16 <Pathetique> Then check state statutes.
16:16 <Pathetique> City's ordinances*
16:16 <Pathetique> If you can't find it, call your local city hall
16:16 <Lucifer> that's kinda what I'm working on right now
16:16 <Pathetique> lololol
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16:21 <Lucifer> found a site that says I need a permit
16:21 <Lucifer> now, why can't I get a government site that tells me how to get this permit?
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16:22 <Pathetique> Cause that's how it works in this great country
16:23 <Pathetique> lol
16:23 <Pathetique> #ping luke-jr
16:23 <@armabot> pong
16:23 <Pathetique> luke-jr: ping
16:23 <luke-jr> what
16:23 <Pathetique> YAY!
16:23 <Pathetique> alright
16:23 <Pathetique> ZV2: We have to define conquest rates in monitor influences? Or am I misinterpreting the wiki page
16:26 <luke-jr> Pathetique: if you can reproduce fortress with standards Zones v2, please do it and document
16:26 <luke-jr> standard*
16:26 <luke-jr> for the moment, my solution was a fortress plugin for Zv2
16:26 <luke-jr> via --enable-fortress configure option
16:27 <luke-jr> BTW, happy Pi day
16:27 <Pathetique> What I don't get about the new dtd is that it doesn't seem to like letting the server decide who gets which zone
16:28 <Pathetique> I'm assuming for teams it goes in order of whichever spawnpoint is given first for team blue, then team gold, et cetera...right?
16:28 <luke-jr> no idea how that works :x
16:30 <Pathetique> lolol
16:30 <Pathetique> It would make sense if it were that, right?
16:31 <luke-jr> dunno
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16:33 <luke-jr> HI EPSY
16:33 <Pathetique> #quote get 74
16:33 <@armabot> Pathetique: Quote #74: "Pathetique: I find it funny how ivantis can write C++ but has no clue how to actually write it." (added by ct|kyle at 09:07 PM, July 28, 2008)
16:34 <Pathetique> lawl
16:35 <Pathetique> hmmm.
16:37 <luke-jr> wtf is with people sending me bills on pink paper?
16:38 <luke-jr> and why did I get 5 W2s from the same company this year?
16:40 <Pathetique> the IRS is out to get you!
16:41 <Pathetique> FFS.
16:41 <Pathetique> 98 pages of posts by phillippeqc
16:44 <epsy> HI LUKE-JR
16:46 <luke-jr> ROFL
16:49 <Pathetique> luke-jr: what is this "rotation angle" that is talked about:?
16:57 <dlh> z-man: i pushed a fix for the bug you found on the prefix branch
17:00 <luke-jr> Pathetique: where?
17:01 <Pathetique> its not mentioned in the dtd, its in the wiki page I thought
17:01 <Pathetique> Under ZoneInfluence
17:01 <z-man> dlh: goody
17:01 <dlh> you can now again say poop.
17:03 <Pathetique> FFS
17:03 <Pathetique> This is annoying.  I can't upload zones v2 stuff without getting errors
17:04 <Lucifer> apparently I should just call the police department
17:04 <Pathetique> LOL
17:05 <Pathetique> luke-jr: can we put the dtd files back into the AATeam directory?
17:05 <Pathetique> -.-
17:05 <luke-jr> what?
17:06 <Pathetique> I'm starting to think that the resource uploader doesn't know wtf to make of zv2 maps cause it can't find the dtd for them.
17:06 <luke-jr> yeah, I agree the DTD situation is a mess
17:06 <Pathetique> I'll have to use my own resource for the time being.
17:06 <luke-jr> z-man: is there possibly a scenario for time-based segment count for zones that grow a lot?
17:07 <luke-jr> Pathetique: I think 0.3.1-a.dtd is on the repo
17:07 <Pathetique> ic.
17:07 <Pathetique> I suppose it would help if we had a folder called "dtd" where these things could be housed.
17:07 <Pathetique> I'm assuming since you run the resource browser you would be able to do such a thing?
17:08 <z-man> luke-jr: not really.
17:08 <luke-jr> Pathetique: they're supposed to be in AATeam
17:08 <Pathetique> lolitsempty
17:09 <luke-jr> should have at least one
17:09 <Pathetique> not when I look at it :\
17:11 <Lucifer> this is getting me nowhere fast
17:11 <Pathetique> Calling the police department?
17:11 <z-man> dlh: hmm, it's still possible to get single character prefixes into the list
17:11 <Lucifer> yeah, I got transferred to an automated system and am now on hold
17:12 <Pathetique> one time
17:12 <z-man> I think there should be a minimal length for what is considered a prefix.
17:12 <Pathetique> I was on the phone waiting for support of some kind
17:12 <Pathetique> And I was just sitting there
17:12 <Pathetique> yelling obscenities into the phone
17:12 <Pathetique> while on hold
17:12 <dlh> z-man: what prefix is it?
17:12 <Pathetique> It didn't make them pick up faster, but made it seem like it did.
17:12 <z-man> still 'p' :)
17:12 <Pathetique> Perhaps you should try it :)
17:12 <Lucifer> heh
17:12 <z-man> say pa, pb, pc, pd, pe, and pf gets blocked.
17:15 <Pathetique> luke-jr: http://i44.tinypic.com/2ng5v0j.png <-- I get that when I go to look at the AATeam directory
17:16 <luke-jr> Pathetique: wtf is that?
17:16 <Pathetique> That's a screenshot
17:16 <luke-jr> o i c
17:16 <Pathetique> LOL
17:16 <luke-jr> the resource browser ignores dtds?
17:16 <Pathetique> I guess so.
17:17 <Pathetique> Would that mean that "map-0.3.1-a.dtd" would really be "AATeam/map-0.3.1-a.dtd"?
17:20 <Lucifer> ok, I'm done being on hold
17:20  * Lucifer hung up
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17:26 <noob13> hmm?
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17:30 <Lucifer> well, everything I'm seeing says to just try it
17:30 <Lucifer> worse that can happen is a cop will ask me to move on
17:30 <@armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r9115 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/resource-browser/preview.php:
17:30 <@armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
17:30 <@armabot> armagetronad: support previews on non-maps when available
17:30 <@armabot> armagetronad: show UNKNOWN_ICON if map preview missing
17:30 <@armabot> armagetronad: list dtds
17:32 <@armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r9116 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/resource-browser/preview.php: fix UNKNOWN_ICON use
17:32 <@armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
17:36 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r9117 /support/svnmerge/merge: First update, then log and look for previous merges.
17:38 <@armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r9118 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/resource-browser/preview.php: support for non-XML resources
17:38 <@armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
17:39 <Pathetique> I'm out.  cu all
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17:40 <@armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r9119 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/resource-browser/preview.php: better support for non-XML resources
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17:48 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-newspam] r1091 After a prefix has been found, remove old chat entries that ...
17:50 <@armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r9120 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/resource-browser/preview.php: better support for non-XML resources
17:50 <@armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
17:51 <@armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r9121 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/resource-browser/preview.php: missing paren
17:51 <@armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
17:52 <@armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r9122 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/resource-browser/preview.php: htmlentities on usage string
17:52 <@armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
17:54 <@armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r9123 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/resource-browser/preview.php: strtr has an odd syntax
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17:56 <@armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r9124 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/resource-browser/preview.php: clear ambiguity
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17:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 9108 to 9116:
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17:57 <@armabot> armagetronad:  Manuel Moos: Fixed comment typos.
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17:59 <@armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r9126 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/resource-browser/preview.php: more PHP weirdness
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18:11 <joda_bot> luke-jr: beta.armagetronad.net down
18:11 <joda_bot> :D
18:12 <@armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r9129 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/resource-browser/preview.php: fix Other Versions for non-XML
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18:22 <luke-jr> joda_bot: liar
18:22 <@armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r9132 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/resource-browser/preview.php: dont list (invalid) root-level files
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18:22 <ct|kyle> luke-jr:
18:23 <ct|kyle> #quote get 81
18:23 <joda_bot> luke-jr: not anymore :D
18:23 <luke-jr> joda_bot: never was
18:23 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Quote #81: "GodTodd: that lightning is just God aiming for luke-jr and missing" (added by ct|kyle at 07:50 AM, August 05, 2008)
18:23 <joda_bot> it was :-|
18:23 <luke-jr> read the last half hour
18:23 <luke-jr> I've been USING IT
18:23 <luke-jr> constantly
18:23 <luke-jr> when you said that, I was probably reloading the pag
18:23 <joda_bot> it was not accessible with the browser :-)
18:23 <luke-jr> to test my script change
18:23 <joda_bot> and I could not ping it from two locations
18:24 <luke-jr> so maybe my ISP was down
18:24 <luke-jr> but the server has been workign fine :p
18:24 <joda_bot> rofl
18:24 <joda_bot> luke-jr: thx for fixing it :-)
18:24 <luke-jr> I did nothing
18:26 <PinkTomato> #fetch beta.armagetronad.net
18:26 <luke-jr> nooooooooooo
18:26 <@armabot> PinkTomato: Error: 'beta.armagetronad.net' is not a valid url.
18:26 <luke-jr> lol
18:27 <luke-jr> PinkTomato FAIL
18:27 <PinkTomato> #fetch http://beta.armagetronad.net
18:27 <luke-jr> EPIC PHAIL
18:27 <PinkTomato> It does not work for me :)
18:28 <luke-jr> #insult PinkTomato
18:28 <@armabot> PinkTomato - You are nothing but a thick heap of fermented warts.
18:28 <PinkTomato> thanks :)
18:28 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: fix ur computer
18:28 <PinkTomato> I can't ping.
18:28 <PinkTomato> on this connection
18:28 <luke-jr> 64 bytes from 2002:46bb:1a76:0:2b0:d0ff:fe49:6b31: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.280ms
18:28 <joda_bot> luke-jr: be nice - I love you :-)
18:30 <luke-jr> joda_bot: just for that I'll give u 15% off a VPS plan with me, if you want a VPS!
18:30 <joda_bot> Just be nice to others and I'm happy
18:31 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: did u phix ur pc yet
18:32 <PinkTomato> Connection still fails
18:32 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: traceroute
18:32 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: cannot ping
18:32 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: traceroute
18:34 <PinkTomato> http://pastebin.com/d1e5d815d
18:34 <joda_bot> Trace route to hachi.dashjr.org [98.172.136.141]
18:34 <joda_bot> ...
18:34 <joda_bot>  10   106 ms   109 ms   107 ms  ash-bb1-link.telia.net [80.91.251.209]
18:34 <joda_bot>  11   106 ms   114 ms   106 ms  coxcable-ic-128352-ash-bb1.c.telia.net [213.248.102.138]
18:34 <joda_bot>  12   194 ms   196 ms   189 ms  mtc1dsrj02-xe200.0.rd.om.cox.net [68.1.0.127]
18:34 <joda_bot>  13   188 ms   191 ms   189 ms  omhssysr01.om.om.cox.net [68.13.14.6]
18:34 <joda_bot>  14   188 ms   188 ms   187 ms  68.13.8.22
18:34 <joda_bot>  15   211 ms   212 ms   217 ms  wsip-98-172-136-141.om.om.cox.net [98.172.136.141]
18:36 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: Dallas can connect, but my PC phails.
18:38 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: sorry, can't produce a useful traceroute due to firewall
18:40 <joda_bot> PinkTomato: what would be the expected result of #fetch aabeta ?
18:41 <joda_bot> luke-jr: why is it bad to attempt #fetch aabeta ?
18:42 <PinkTomato> #fetch google.co.uk
18:43 <@armabot> PinkTomato: Error: 'google.co.uk' is not a valid url.
18:43 <PinkTomato> #fetch http://www.google.co.uk
18:43 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: sounds like your firewall is broken
18:43 <@armabot> PinkTomato: '<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"><title>Google</title><script>window.google={kEI:"172uSdjZFIu60AWltJ3jDw",kEXPI:"17259",kHL:"en"};\nvar _gjwl=location;function _gjuc(){var a=_gjwl.hash;if(a.indexOf("&q=")>0||a.indexOf("#q=")>=0){a=a.substring(1);if(a.indexOf("#")==-1){for(var c=0;c<a.length;){var d=c;if(a.charAt(d)=="&")++d;var (5 more messages)
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18:44 <luke-jr> joda_bot: cuz aabeta's main page is big
18:45 <joda_bot> hm ok
18:45 <PinkTomato> armabot never successfully #fetched it though
18:45 <luke-jr> that was PinkTomato's fault tho ☺
18:46 <PinkTomato> lol :)
18:46 <luke-jr> you never issued the command right
18:47 <joda_bot> #fetch http://www.jedimasters.de
18:47 <@armabot> joda_bot: '<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>\n<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">\n<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">\n<head>\n<title>jedimasters.de</title>\n<style type="text/css">\nbody {\n\tcolor: white;\n\tbackground-color: #333333;\n\tfont-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;\n}\n\n#content (5 more messages)
18:47 <PinkTomato> how was it supposed to be then :)?
18:47 <luke-jr> similar to the last one, but minus the extra space at the front
18:50 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: OK armabot can fetch it
18:50 <luke-jr> -.-
18:53 <PinkTomato> aabeta.dashjr.org works but it is painfully slow. Along with hachi
18:53 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r887 Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 9108 to 9116:...
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18:55 <luke-jr> well, 2 years ago z-man was plannign to take over the hosting..
18:55 <luke-jr> maybe since he seems to have changed his mind, I should move it to a VPS or such
18:55 <z-man> I can still do it, I just didn't get your instructions :)
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18:55 <z-man> Something about hacked php required or somesuch.
18:56 <luke-jr> what instructions? :p
19:04 <joda_bot> luke-jr: I guess that was some indirect request for help :-)
19:04 <luke-jr> o i c
19:05 <luke-jr> z-man: follow the suPHP instructions, but don't follow them to the T
19:05 <luke-jr> <.<
19:05 <luke-jr> that's about all I remember now
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19:11 <epsy> so I take it as tDirectories::GetFiles doesn't work and isn't used anyway?
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19:13 <luke-jr> no idea
19:15 <z-man> If it doesn't work, it isn't used :)
19:16 <epsy> actually, it's stuff it works on that is flawed
19:16 <luke-jr> >_<
19:16 <epsy> don't we have a tString member to sort strings? tDirectories.cpp sets one
19:16 <Lucifer> are talking mimes funny?
19:17 <luke-jr> wtf?
19:17 <luke-jr> MIME types talk?
19:17 <Lucifer> no, not that kind of mime, you damned geek
19:17 <epsy> haha
19:17 <luke-jr> >_<
19:18 <Lucifer> epsy: you're french, maybe you can answer this.  Are talking mimes funny?
19:18 <epsy> they aren't mimes then?
19:20 <Lucifer> you know, do everything a mime normally does, but also talk from time to time
19:21 <epsy> good, using tString::CompareAlphaNumerical doesn't crash :>
19:21 <BabyBug> a mime normally keeps quiet you freaking idiot
19:21 <epsy> that's like, "we're gonna play a tourney, but we will be able to iddqd whenever we want"
19:22 <Lucifer> that's the point!
19:22 <Lucifer> like, do the regular trapped-in-a-box thing, and yell out "help!  I'm trapped in a box!"
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19:25 <Lucifer> or stand like a statue, and when someone comes up to see if you're real or a statue, yell out "I'm a statue!  Just stand back and look at me!"
19:25 <epsy> ok
19:25 <joda_bot1> test
19:26 <joda_bot1> tes
19:26 <joda_bot1> ...
19:27 <Lucifer> http://cecilthetalkingmime.blogspot.com/2009/01/what-hell.html
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19:33 <luke-jr> epsy: http://luke.dashjr.org/tmp/french.ogg
19:33 <cpayan> Lucifer, they'd just be a street performer, not a mime at all
19:33 <epsy> luke-jr, what is it?
19:34 <luke-jr> epsy: if I could type it, i wouldn't have made an ogg
19:34 <epsy> you want me to transscript this?
19:34 <z-man> \o/
19:34 <z-man> Made an AI conquer a zone!
19:34 <luke-jr> epsy: sure
19:34 <epsy> like, the way lack does?
19:34 <luke-jr> z-man: :O
19:35 <z-man> no, more like the way a drunken lemur would do
19:35 <Lucifer> z-man doesn't drive light cycles, he writes code that makes the light cycles move
19:35 <luke-jr> LOL
19:35 <epsy> :D
19:35 <z-man> but at least it made an effort
19:35 <luke-jr> Lucifer: I've thought that would be a fun new game genre a few times
19:35 <luke-jr> especially for Freeciv-style games
19:35 <cpayan> also Lucifer I think that cecil fellow is insane
19:35 <luke-jr> instead of moving units, you write some scripts to play
19:35 <Lucifer> there is a tank game that lets you use any language you want
19:35 <luke-jr> epsy: it's short… the ogg
19:36 <epsy> Monsieur, vous allez manquer l'occasion de vous taire (with a weird accent)
19:36 <cpayan> bzflag?
19:36 <Lucifer> cpayan: yeah, that blog isn't interesting, I'm curious about the idea
19:36 <epsy> Mister, you are missing the occasion to stop talking.
19:36 <Lucifer> no, a tank game where you program the tanks, like robocode only you can use any language
19:36 <epsy> you can drive a guru3 ?
19:36 <cpayan> The only mime I would consider a mime even though they talk is this one fellow I saw who occasionally spoke to remind people to give him money
19:37  * Lucifer considers googling it up
19:37 <Lucifer> well, historically, mimes didn't have to be silent
19:37  * cpayan muses over the idea of the long and rich history of mimes
19:37 <cpayan> is this a wikipedia-led inquiry into mimes?
19:37 <Lucifer> but you don't have to be considered a mime, the question is more about the performance
19:37 <luke-jr> z-man: do you think it would be possible to migrate cycles and walls to use zShapes for visuals? once we have model-based shapes..
19:38 <epsy> @g site:uncyclopedia.org mime
19:38 <teabot> epsy: http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Babel:Ts - Babel:Ts - Uncyclopedia, the content-free encyclopedia
19:38 <cpayan> nothing on mimes?
19:38 <z-man> why would we want that?
19:38 <luke-jr> z-man: so we can implement the CSS stuff once and drive tanks instead of light cycles?
19:39 <z-man> yeah, but zShape has lots of stuff that doesn't apply to cycles.
19:39 <z-man> or walls.
19:39 <ct|kyle> we need to create http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Luke-jr
19:39 <cpayan> or that one fellow that wants to drive an old cadillac?
19:39 <luke-jr> it does?
19:39 <z-man> about the only thing in common is Render().
19:40 <z-man> and the nNetObject inherited stuff, of course.
19:40 <luke-jr> z-man: are you considering the possibility of driving a zombie-zone around? ;)
19:40 <z-man> no, not really.
19:43 <cpayan> I was shocked when I went into a server and there were "bubbles" a rush of multicolor DZs. It was pretty strange.
19:43 <luke-jr> ROFL
19:43 <luke-jr> hmm
19:43 <epsy> ah yeah, I remember having that every ladle I played on ct servers
19:44 <luke-jr> what if when you died, you became a zombie and had to feed on walls to grow
19:44 <epsy> zzzzzzzzz
19:44 <luke-jr> and you shrank if you didn't feed on walls, and eventually collapsed
19:44 <epsy> this is a LIGHTCYCLE game
19:44 <luke-jr> >_<
19:44 <epsy> not DOOM
19:44 <luke-jr> lol
19:44 <cpayan> haha
19:44 <luke-jr> so we can't even have recognizers?
19:45 <cpayan> how about instead of going around in a light cycle, you go around in first person, where you see a gun, and you can use the brake to shoot, and and and
19:45 <epsy> what cpayan said
19:45 <epsy> zombies, why not
19:45 <epsy> driving the zombies, wtf?
19:45 <luke-jr> actually, recognizers could be some kind of AI to replace a timed win/death zone too ;)
19:46 <Lucifer> realtimebattle
19:46 <luke-jr> come in and start trying to stomp cycles
19:46 <cpayan> Like Tank Programs, luke-jr ?
19:46 <luke-jr> cpayan: no, Tank Programs try to shoot cycles
19:46 <cpayan> lol, been a while since I've seen the movie
19:46 <luke-jr> actually, current trunk is *almost* capable of recognizers stomping cycles
19:47 <cpayan> Whatever happened to the king of the hill server?
19:47 <Lucifer> http://realtimebattle.sourceforge.net/
19:47 <luke-jr> the network protocol supports zones that float above the grid and move downward, etc
19:47 <luke-jr> just needs to support model shapes
19:47 <cpayan> Lucifer, that's the programmable tank game?
19:47 <Lucifer> yeah, the one that allows any language
19:48 <Lucifer> it runs your robot as a subprocess, that's how it does it :)
19:48 <cpayan> Even Javascript? :D
19:48 <Lucifer> uses stdin/stdout to communicate to the robot
19:48 <Lucifer> if you have a javascript interpreter that runs from the commandline, then yes
19:48 <Lucifer> that provides stdin/stdout, of course
19:48 <Lucifer> could even use a bash script
19:48 <cpayan> Oh I remember this
19:48 <cpayan> Seen it before
19:48 <epsy> or even python
19:48 <cpayan> I think you showed it to me
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19:52 <Lizmatic> BabyBug is selling selfesteem downers, get em while you can!
19:52 <Lucifer> I probably did, I want to play it sometime with someone
19:52 <Lucifer> but I've never started a robot for it
19:53  * cpayan jumps right on the selfesteem downer
19:53 <cpayan> ahh, never mind, i'm hardly worth buying it anyway
19:54 <BabyBug> Lizmatic, too right you ugly black bitch!
19:54 <Lizmatic> RACISM
19:54 <BabyBug> i'm talking about your hair!! :@
19:55 <Lizmatic> HAIRCISM
20:08 <MrBougo> you forgot SEXISM
20:09 <BabyBug> men suck...they have no right to shout sexism
20:09 <Lizmatic> did I? oh.. BB get back in the kitchen and make me some damn pie you woman
20:09 <epsy> and BELGICISM, too
20:09  * ct|kyle hopes Lizmatic cuts off her hand :P
20:09 <BabyBug> I'll make that pie and smother you with it in the bedroom Lizmatic! <3
20:11  * ct|kyle bets BabyBug does not know how to cook very well
20:11  * Lizmatic slaps ct|kyle
20:11 <BabyBug> fuck you, you cunt..I'm a very good cook!
20:12 <Lizmatic> ct|kyle, she's a bit cranky today so watch out :x
20:13 <ct|kyle> Lizmatic: what did you do??
20:13 <BabyBug> she keeps wanting to fist me! :@
20:14 <Lizmatic> looool
20:14 <luke-jr> ……..
20:14  * luke-jr goes away again
20:14  * Lizmatic raises fist in front of cam
20:15 <BabyBug> oh yeh you remember that now...
20:15 <Lizmatic> you told me
20:15 <Lizmatic> xD
20:15 <BabyBug> drunken skank
20:15 <Lizmatic> haha
20:15 <Lizmatic> ok who's drinking JD again now?
20:15 <BabyBug> i have control unlike you!
20:15 <Lizmatic> chea rite!
20:16 <Lizmatic> but you're my drunken skank<3
20:16 <BabyBug> I am not
20:17 <ct|kyle> you both are
20:18  * Lizmatic kicks ct|kyle in the ballz
20:18 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: you are right it is Lizmatic's fault
20:19 <BabyBug> stop bitching about my woman whore
20:21 <luke-jr> z-man: the protobuf compiling stuff doesn't work still :<
20:21 <luke-jr> z-man: apparently I need to rm src/protobuf/libprotobuf.a to get it to rebuild things
20:24 <z-man> it works for me.
20:24 <z-man> I moved stuff around, maybe starting from scratch helps?
20:30 <luke-jr> I mean when i modify a proto file
20:30 <luke-jr> stuff doesn't get regenerated automatically
20:47 <z-man> Still, I moved stuff around, and automake may have kept outdated files like dependencies.
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20:58 <Lucifer> #ping
20:59 <@armabot> pong
20:59 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-newspam] r1094 Extra param to FindPlayerByName() to not print stuff to cons... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-newspam] r1093 Known prefixes will now timeout sometime in the future.... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-newspam] r1092 * One letter prefixes can not be blocked now. Their score no...
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22:22 <cpayan> Does anyone know how many subdomains the armagetronad.net site has right now? It's only forums, wiki, and beta, right?
22:23 <ct|kyle> cpayan: also the ones for short auth
22:23 <cpayan> ?
22:23 <ct|kyle> and the master servers
22:24 <cpayan> are those portions that a regular visitor would go to? Or more specific to arma's workings?
22:24 <ct|kyle> guru3: would be the one that would know them all
22:24 <cpayan> and in the darkness bind them?
22:24 <cpayan> What do you mean short auth?
22:25 <ct|kyle> like @ct points to crazy-tronners.com
22:25 <ct|kyle> when you login
22:26 <guru3> cpayan: why do you ask?
22:27 <cpayan> thinking thinking thinking about ways the site could change to be easier to use, easier to navigate, and be clearer to new users from the get-go
22:27 <guru3> ok
22:27 <guru3> there are a few subdomains floating around
22:27 <guru3> the's maptools
22:28 <guru3> gmail
22:28 <cpayan> gmail? really?
22:28 <guru3> yeah
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22:28 <guru3> tracker
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22:28 <guru3> authentication
22:28 <ct|kyle> there is a maptools one
22:28 <noob13> hey guru3, if i were to install an authority server on mastercontrolprogram.de, would it be possible to link that to @mcp?
22:28 <guru3> that about sums it up
22:29 <guru3> noob13: i could be persuaded
22:29 <noob13> with chocolate chip cookies?
22:29 <ct|kyle> noob13: he means bribed :P
22:29 <cpayan> Girls scout cookies should work
22:29 <guru3> actually
22:29 <guru3> i meant reasoning
22:30 <guru3> but hey, i'm up for bribes too
22:30 <noob13> ;D
22:30 <cpayan> so: beta, forums, wiki, maptools, gmail, tracker, and authentication
22:30 <guru3> they're all pretty much public except for gmail
22:30 <guru3> just thought it'd toss that out there for the fun of it
22:30 <cpayan> yea, just passed through maptools
22:30 <cpayan> what is gmail for?
22:30 <guru3> gmail?
22:30 <cpayan> guru3@armagetronad.net?
22:30 <guru3> actually, no
22:30 <guru3> tank.program ;)
22:31 <guru3> there's also master[1-4]
22:31 <cpayan> Ah, ok. I didn't know you received email at armagetron
22:31 <z-man> THEY FRIGGING GANKED ME
22:31 <cpayan> heh
22:31 <ivantis2> anyone here run a wordpress blog?
22:31 <z-man> Besides Concord?
22:31 <ct|kyle> you know the person that named ganking does not even play tron that much anymore LOL
22:31 <guru3> not a lot of it cpayan
22:32 <cpayan> do the master subdomains do anything for a person in a browser? or is it mostly for the clients
22:32 <cpayan> ivantis2, I don't run one, but I modify wordpress blogs, badly
22:32 <cpayan> why?
22:32 <guru3> clients
22:32 <cpayan> ah ok
22:32 <guru3> authentication is for clients as well
22:32 <ivantis2> i might have a job to create a plugin
22:32 <guru3> they will take you places in a browser
22:32 <ivantis2> for wordpress
22:32 <guru3> but it's not really official
22:33 <cpayan> heh, don't ask me
22:33 <guru3> ivantis2: ive done plugin creation for wordpress
22:33 <cpayan> I'm bashing my head against the wall trying to make a plugin right now
22:33 <guru3> not a bad system
22:33 <guru3> bit annoying sometimes
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22:33 <guru3> like adding things to the admin panel
22:33 <guru3> completely rubbish
22:33 <ivantis2> guru3: what kind? i need to make one to add an option to the admin pannel
22:33 <ivantis2> and create posts at specified time intervals
22:34 <cpayan> really guru3? Sometime tonight I'm going to compile my problem and my thoughts, post it on the wordpress forums. Mind if I send it to you for a look?
22:34 <guru3> i made a plugin that substituted a static page url for dynamic content
22:34 <guru3> and i fooled around with cacheing
22:34 <guru3> (in a not very clever let's save the post processed html and then regurgitate it way)
22:34 <ivantis2> i made one that let the person who would post to use some markup of their own
22:34 <ivantis2> then use a regexp to change it to html
22:35 <ivantis2> to save on typing
22:35 <ivantis2> but then i never heard back from the client :(
22:35 <ivantis2> that was in november
22:35 <guru3> i also did one for this one sites donation drive
22:35 <ivantis2> car wreck? heart attack?
22:35 <ivantis2> who knows
22:35 <guru3> that was a bit of fun
22:35 <guru3> generally i'm not doing a lot of wordpress
22:36 <guru3> but i may have some more to do soon
22:36 <cpayan> "armathentication" cute
22:36  * guru3 points to z-man 
22:37 <guru3> we've got a few of those names i think
22:37 <guru3> although others escape me at the moment
22:37 <z-man> armatrators
22:37 <z-man> armathority
22:37 <ivantis2> there is an option in wordpress to schedule posts, right?
22:37 <ivantis2> something like linux's 'at'
22:38 <guru3> ivantis2: i'm pretty sure there is
22:38 <ivantis2> how does it work?
22:39 <guru3> not a clue
22:40 <ivantis2> seems like something that would be host dependant
22:40 <cpayan> http://support.wordpress.com/posts/schedule-a-post/
22:40 <cpayan> first thing on google
22:41 <guru3> and somehow 60 minutes = 2.25 hours :/
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22:41 <cpayan> isn't that how real life is?
22:42 <guru3> argh crap
22:43 <guru3> this javascript is getting out of hand
22:43 <ivantis2> hmm
22:44 <ivantis2> it probably creates the post then, and when a user trys to load the page, it checks if the time to post it has passed, and then either shows the page or redirects them
22:44 <guru3> 54 hours is not hte same as 24 :/
22:44 <ivantis2> what is you talking about?
22:44 <cpayan> 2.25*24
22:45 <guru3> 1440 minutes into hours
22:45 <guru3> should give 24
22:45 <guru3> but gives 54
22:45 <guru3> when i switch it to days
22:45 <ivantis2> where?
22:45 <guru3> it still gives 1
22:45 <ivantis2> wordpress?
22:45 <guru3> no
22:45 <guru3> local site
22:45 <ivantis2> weird
22:45 <guru3> yes
22:45 <guru3> yes it is
22:45 <BabyBug> idiots...
22:46 <guru3> does javascript on change trigger if the form was changed by javascript?
22:46 <ivantis2> no idea
22:47 <guru3> i think it does
22:47 <guru3> which is bad
22:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9133 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/tron/zone/zFortress.cpp): Manuel Moos: Removed redundant sync request.
22:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9134 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/tron/zone/zShape.cpp src/tron/zone/zShape.h): Manuel Moos: Fixed zShape::setReferenceTime, it needs to update the tFunction members.
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22:58 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9135 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/tron/zone/zFortress.cpp): Manuel Moos: Fixed zone vanishing logic and the sumo collapse kill.
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22:59 <ivantis2> release 9135? wow
23:00 <guru3> revision
23:00 <ivantis2> oh
23:00 <ivantis2> well still wow
23:00 <guru3> there's some point after a few years where it gets to that "holy crap when did release numbers become so high?"
23:00 <guru3> argh, revision numbers
23:01 <guru3> stupid reading what i wrote while typing
23:01 <ivantis2> stuff like that is weird
23:02 <ivantis2> humans can only do a few processes at a time
23:02 <guru3> i'm already working on my dissertation
23:02 <ivantis2> like sometimes i am thinking something, then i get ready to say something, and i say part of the last word i was thinking
23:02 <ivantis2> its like "turn on speaking of thoughts"
23:02 <ivantis2> too early
23:03 <zmanuel> guru3: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=19107&highlight= looks like from a spam account
23:03 <guru3> in that sub-forum and that url
23:03 <guru3> seems likely
23:04 <ivantis2> when the user is removed, all posts from them appear to be from "Guest"?
23:05 <guru3> yes
23:05 <ivantis2> s/the/a/
23:05 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r891 Made AIs aware of zones. That is:...
23:06 <guru3> zmanuel: :o
23:06 <ivantis2> AIs now aware of zones?
23:06 <zmanuel> yeah, but they still suck.
23:06 <ivantis2> i havent been online in such a long time
23:07 <guru3> this is the sort of thing
23:07 <guru3> i should write about on the mainsite
23:07 <guru3> (presumably)
23:08 <zmanuel> only when it's merged. It may prove to be stuck too deep in suckland.
23:08 <guru3> read the post and your comment from earlier now makes sense
23:16 <cpayan> guru3, I've been thinking about that. What should show up on the main site
23:17 <cpayan> Anyway. Forum thread about it sometime later tonight or tomorrow
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23:24 <dlh> z-man: can you update bugfarm elimination sumo to latest from the newspam branch? And after a busy day give me the output of “grep "Spam prefix found" armalog”?
23:33 <luke-jr> zmanuel: how do AIs know what they want to do with zones?
23:33 <luke-jr> maybe hints for each action (entry, exit, inside, outside)
23:34 <luke-jr> positive ints being "good for me", and negative ints being "avoid"
23:35 <luke-jr> but that is technically giving the AIs inside info :/
23:35 <luke-jr> so perhaps a separate thing saying "speeds like this of this colour are good"
23:35 <luke-jr> or something
23:36 <ivantis2> ...that would entirely fail with my zone color and speed settings
23:36 <luke-jr> ivantis2: your "zone color and speed settings" are probably fail anyway
23:37 <luke-jr> and the entire point of making it colour/speed-based would be so miscolours blind AIs in addition to humans
23:38 <ivantis2> yeah no one uses my branch anyway
23:38 <luke-jr> ivantis2: wtf are you even talking about?
23:38 <luke-jr> it's already possible to change zone speed and colour anyway
23:39 <ivantis2> itis?
23:39 <ivantis2> well i am fading away from arma
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23:42 <luke-jr> phew
23:42 <luke-jr> finally
23:42 <luke-jr> ivantis2: next time just put a <Color/> element inside the <ShapeCircle>
23:44 <ivantis2> oh
23:44 <ivantis2> and guess what?
23:44 <ivantis2> ai gots a job
23:44 <ivantis2> !!!
23:46 <luke-jr> o boi
23:46 <luke-jr> are you even old enough to work legally?
23:52 <ivantis2> i dont know
23:52 <ivantis2> this site didnt ask for my age
23:52 <ivantis2> its a programming job
23:54 <luke-jr> then it isn't a job
23:54 <joda_bot1> luke-jr: ?
23:54 -!- joda_bot1 is now known as joda_bot
23:55 <luke-jr> :p
23:55 <ivantis2> it isnt a job?
23:55 <ivantis2> wot you mean?
23:55 <ivantis2> getting paid to do something is a job, right?
23:55 <luke-jr> have they paid you?
23:55 <ivantis2> not yet
23:56 <ivantis2> elance.com
23:56 <ivantis2> maybe you should sign up
23:56 <cpayan> o.O how low didja bid?
23:57 <ivantis2> $50
23:57 <ivantis2> its a smallish job
23:57 <cpayan> what kind of work is it?
23:57 <ivantis2> a wordpress plugin
23:57 <ivantis2> what i said before
23:57 <cpayan> ah
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00:02 <epsy> guru3, aah, wordpress's own rewrite rules thing is annoying
00:04 <z-man> dlh: can do.
00:06 <ivantis2> weird, i was just speaking of wordpress
00:08 <z-man> luke-jr: right now, they only know 'good for me'.
00:09 <@armabot> armacommits: [bugfarm-scripts] r19 Rearranged some stuff to avoid the '32 minutes to next elimi... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-newspam] r1098 escape colors
00:09 <epsy> I've been thinking a bit about how would the menus be ideally organized
00:09 <epsy> I ended up on having server browser as the main menu
00:10 <cpayan> Personally, textpattern
00:10 <cpayan> But the people want wordpress, so i works with wordpress
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00:29 <nsh22> hai hai hai
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01:13 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-zone-models] r888 zShapeModel, that does not work :( || [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r892 Don't find your path to a zone, it doesn't work properly (an...
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01:25 <joda_bot> epsy: Are you interested in doing somekind of use case based analysis of the menus ?
01:25 <joda_bot> ah, he left
01:26 <joda_bot> well tomorrow then
01:26 <joda_bot> gn8
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01:40 <nsh22> ZURD!
01:40 <nsh22> since when did you have irc?
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01:40 <nsh22> Zurd: ping
01:41 <luke-jr> Zurd: PING
01:41 <Zurd> ok, i need assistance, its not a bug, because i have tried on several different firmwares...everytime i got to enter a server, it loads all the settings and config, then after 5 sec, the whole game crashes, and shuts down. The is the yellow trianlge icon at the bottom of my screen that says " armagetron_sdll corrupted"...i have unistalled and reinstalled many many times at this point...and everything to the best of my kno
01:42 <Zurd> hey neal
01:42 <Zurd> i come in evry now and then
01:43 <Zurd> ^ i have even gone so far as switching my gfx cards^
01:46 <dlh> Zurd: what version are you running, and on what OS?
01:46 <Zurd> i went from the 2.8.3 beta 2 to the official 2.8.1<curently on>, on windows xp SP3
01:47 <luke-jr> Zurd: we don't even have 1.0 yet
01:47 <luke-jr> let alone 2.8
01:47 <luke-jr> ]yandere start theme=twg
01:47 <Zurd> then it was 2.7.3 and 2.7.1.........
01:47 <luke-jr> we don't have a 2.7 yet
01:47 <Zurd> ???
01:47 <nsh22> s0.2.8
01:48 <luke-jr> 0.2.8.1 is unsupported and obsolete
01:48 <nsh22> it is?
01:48 <nsh22> s0.2.8.2?
01:48 <nsh22> 0.2.8.2?
01:48 <luke-jr> 0.2.8.2.1 is latest stable
01:49 <Zurd> ok, i was mixed up in my numbering, it was 0.2.8.2.3 beta2 to 0.2.8.2.1 stable(current)
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01:51 <luke-jr> Zurd: I know nothing about a 0.2.8.2.3
01:51 <nsh22> he meant 0.2.8.3beta2
01:51 <nsh22> why do you have to be so specific? :P
01:52 <luke-jr> becuase they actually mean something
01:52 <nsh22> ...
01:52 <nsh22> #night
01:52 <@armabot> Good night nsh22!
01:52 <nsh22> #weather innisfil
01:52 <@armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Innisfil, Innisfil, Ontario is 23.2°F (7:52 PM EST on March 04, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 5.0°F. Windchill: 23.0°F. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026.0 hPa (Rising).
01:52 <Zurd> ok well, now that we have all that clarified, ahy know anything about the problem?
01:52 <nsh22> its fucking balmy
01:53 <nsh22> :P
01:53 <nsh22> im not even joking
01:53 <nsh22> kk im out
01:53 <Zurd> later neal
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01:56 <Zurd> has this been problemed been issued before?
01:57 <luke-jr> Zurd: what version works?
01:57 <Zurd> none have worked
01:57 <luke-jr> dlh: did you answer dlh yet?
01:57 <Zurd> i've been able to get into the server browser, but after that, nada
01:58 <Zurd> yea, i thought i did
01:58 <luke-jr> I missed it.
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01:58 <Zurd> dlh: i went from the 0.2.8.3 beta 2 to the official 0.2.8.2.1<curently on>, on windows xp SP3
01:58 <animuson> does anyone know why it renames the players when they login?
01:59 <luke-jr> o i c
01:59 <animuson> like EricForLyfe@animuson.com renames him to EricForLyfe
01:59 <luke-jr> Zurd: try on Kubuntu or some sane OS
01:59 <ct|kyle> animuson: because the are not using a beta clients
01:59 <luke-jr> animuson: he's running an old version
01:59 <ct|kyle> old = stable :P
01:59 <Zurd> luke-jr: ok, i'll try on my ubuntu
01:59 <animuson> i run 0.2.8 but it doesnt rename me when i lgoin :-/
01:59 <ct|kyle> you probably are not running 0.2.8.2.1
02:00 <Zurd> run the newest beta, it should work fine
02:00 <animuson> i am
02:00 <animuson> thats the number it says when it starts up
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02:00 <ct|kyle> is your grid name different that you /login name though?
02:00 <ct|kyle> or do you have a reservered_name for yourself?
02:00 <animuson> yea i use $t->animuson and login as animuson@animuson.com
02:01 <luke-jr> wtf kind of name is that
02:01 <animuson> ?
02:03 <animuson> ...
02:03 <dlh> animuson: what do you mean they are renamed?
02:03 <animuson> like |PT*iMe logs in as ptiMe@animuson.com and gets renamed to ptiMe
02:04 <luke-jr> ]yandere start theme=twg
02:04 <ljrbot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "]yandere" to join.
02:05 <animuson> erednay[
02:05 <luke-jr> -.-
02:05 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
02:05 <animuson> ]yandere
02:05 <luke-jr> ]yandere extend
02:05 <ljrbot> Added another waiting extension.
02:05 <animuson> lol
02:06 <animuson> so noone knows about the login thing?
02:06 <luke-jr> animuson: we already told you
02:06 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
02:06 <animuson> that doesnt explain why it does it to other people but not me tho :P
02:07 <ljrbot> There aren't enough players to start the Worm Game. Try again later.
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02:08 <animuson> if u install a newer arma client will it keep ur player settings and stuff?
02:08 <luke-jr> if it's from the same series
02:18 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r894 They grind! The split is a tad uncoordinated, better hope yo... || [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r893 Improved team management:...
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02:25 <animuson> how do i scroll up in a screen session?
02:26 <mkzelda> shift+pgup?
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03:08 <smoothice> luke-jr: flag zones appear! :D
03:09 <luke-jr> smoothice: wd; but they always did for me once it compiled
03:09 <smoothice> I'm talking about the work you did
03:09 <smoothice> thanks a lot
03:09 <smoothice> I'm so excited
03:10 <luke-jr> O.o
03:10 <ct|kyle> now learn what he did :P
03:10 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: nothing really
03:10 <luke-jr> I just made it compile..
03:11 <smoothice> for some reason the code that detects which team the flag is on doesn't work though
03:11 <ct|kyle> where is a server to see
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03:11 <smoothice> one sec
03:11 <ct|kyle> o0 Genki
03:11 <smoothice> yo genki
03:12 <Genki> heya
03:12 <ct|kyle> Genki: you Yahoo was hacked
03:12 <Genki> I heard I changed the pass a few days ago
03:12  * ct|kyle got spammed from it Friday
03:12 <ct|kyle> ok
03:12 <Genki> mhmm
03:12 <Genki> lemme know if you get any more
03:12 <ct|kyle> ok
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03:18 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-old-glancing] r759 Merge from trunk... || [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r895 Stalemate break. If nobody is willing to attack, defenders r...
03:19 <smoothice> luke-jr: Where is the code in your fortress stuff that sets the color of the zone to the color of the closest team? I cannot find it
03:20 <smoothice> luke-jr: nevermind, I found it in a new function you made that I wasn't expecting
03:41 <smoothice> luke-jr: the OnInside method of zFlagZone isn't working at all.. I put an sn_ConsoleOut in there with a \n and it never runs when I go inside the flag zone
03:43 <smoothice> luke-jr: yep, I can verify that OnInside is not running
03:44 <luke-jr> smoothice: why not? ;)
03:44 <smoothice> that's why I asked?
03:44 <smoothice> I tried OnEntry too
03:44 <smoothice> and it didn't work either
03:47 <luke-jr> bet you're overriding something important and not passing it
03:48 <smoothice> what do you mean?
03:50 <luke-jr> like Timestep
03:51 <smoothice> what do you mean overriding
03:51 <smoothice> aren't they called my the zZone engine automatically?
03:51 <smoothice> by the *
03:54 <luke-jr> yes, zZone calls them
03:54 <luke-jr> probably in zZone::Timestep
03:54 <smoothice> so then how could I be overriding OnEntry?
03:54 <luke-jr> but if you override it with zFlagZone::Timestep, you need to call zZone::Timestep yourself
03:54 <luke-jr> same goes for OnEntry and co
03:54 <luke-jr> or any method you override
03:55 <smoothice> where do I put that?
03:55 <smoothice> In my own Timestep?
03:58 <ct|kyle> #m z-man http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/6291/screenshot77.png I'm running the trunk playing in smoothice's server, Not sure if it is a bug, a bug that has been fixed or what.
03:58 <@armabot> ct|kyle: The operation succeeded.
03:59 <ct|kyle> #am z-man by smoothice's server it is his zones v2 sty testing
03:59 <smoothice> #help am
04:00 <@armabot> smoothice: Error: There is no command "am".
04:00 <smoothice> #help m
04:00 <@armabot> smoothice: (m <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "later tell $*".
04:00 <ct|kyle> #m z-man by smoothice's server it is his zones v2 sty testing
04:00 <@armabot> ct|kyle: The operation succeeded.
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04:10 <smoothice> luke-jr: Well Timestep was not being overridden
04:10 <smoothice> luke-jr: and all of the rest don't have to run their zZone parent, do they
04:10 <smoothice> ?
04:15 <luke-jr> of course they do
04:18 <smoothice> luke-jr: zFortress doesn't
04:18 <luke-jr> probably a bug
04:18 <smoothice> but it obviously works
04:19 <smoothice> mine doesn't work at all
04:21 <luke-jr> are you overriding interact whatever?
04:21 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r874 Set color of flag to the team color
04:23 <smoothice> luke-jr: InteractWith?
04:24 <luke-jr> I think the 'I' is lowercase
04:27 <smoothice> well no anyways
04:27 <smoothice> this is really strange
04:27 <smoothice> the zone practically does nothing
04:31 <smoothice> luke-jr: can you give r874 a quick compile?
04:32 <luke-jr> no'
04:33 <smoothice> :(
04:33 <smoothice> I'm truly stumped when it comes to zZone extends
04:38 <ct|kyle> smoothice: it sits there looking ugly what more do you want :P
04:38 <smoothice> ?
04:39 <luke-jr> XD
04:39 <smoothice> ??????
04:39 <luke-jr> smoothice: I'm at work, can't touch any code right now
04:39 <ct|kyle> looks ugly meaning white zone
04:39 <smoothice> It ain't white anymore
04:40 <smoothice> but it still does look ugly
04:40 <ct|kyle> o0
04:40 <ct|kyle> heh
04:40 <smoothice> luke-jr: don't you live in Iowa?
04:41 <luke-jr> no
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04:41 <smoothice> I thought you said you did
04:41 <luke-jr> nope
04:42 <ct|kyle> smoothice: wtf is #include "zZone.pb.h"
04:42 <ct|kyle> wait nm
04:42 <ct|kyle> LOL
04:43 <ct|kyle> smoothice: why do you need to #include "zone/zFortress.h"
04:50 <smoothice> umm
04:50 <smoothice> I copied zFortress
04:50 <smoothice> lol
04:50 <smoothice> oooh
04:50 <smoothice> whoa that might mess it up...
04:51 <ct|kyle> heh
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04:53 <Pathetique> *give me that filet of fish, give me that fish (oooh!)*
04:53 <smoothice> ?
04:53 <Pathetique> You've not seen the new McDonalds commercial?
04:53 <luke-jr> you watch TV?
04:54 <Pathetique> I like to watch a few shows.
04:54 <smoothice> lol
04:54 <Pathetique> But I don't watch it like people watch "boob-toobs"
04:54 <Pathetique> I only watch the news and Battlestar Galactica.
04:54 <Pathetique> That's about it.
04:54 <Pathetique> lol
04:55 <Pathetique> What about you, luke-jr?
04:56 <Pathetique> What's in YOUR wallet?
04:56 <Pathetique> o.0
04:56 <luke-jr> I don't watch TV.
04:56 <luke-jr> I don't even have it plugged in.
04:56 <Pathetique> That's quite silly.
04:56 <luke-jr> nah
04:56 <Pathetique> :]
04:57 <Pathetique> luke-jr, you've had your fair share of the ganja, haven't you?
04:59 <ct|kyle> I probably won't be watching too much tv anymore
05:00 <ct|kyle> they are getting rid of the only sho I watch
05:00 <Pathetique> which is...?
05:00 <ct|kyle> Kyle XY :P
05:00 <Pathetique> ROFL!
05:00 <ct|kyle> I like sci-fi
05:00 <Pathetique> is that why you're tron name is kyle?
05:00 <ct|kyle> no my real name is kyle
05:00 <Pathetique> So do I
05:00 <Pathetique> oic
05:03 <Pathetique> What do you think of Battlestar Galactica or Stargate Atlantis?
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06:24 <cpayan> I'm confused, what does the Mates function in the new beta do?
06:28 <cpayan> ah, only shows servers where your mates are?
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06:44 <cpayan> Lucifer, eating people :D
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06:49 <Durka> #hello
06:49 <Durka> anyone home?
06:49 <@armabot> Hello Durka :) Quote #26: "<Lucifer_arma> I want fundamentalism just so I can wipe my ass with luke-jr_'s face" (added by spidey at 05:44 AM, October 25, 2006)
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08:22 <cpayan> hey durka
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08:29 <cpayan> err
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11:51 <tramshed> BONGRIPS FOR JESUS
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14:49 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r897 EmergencyGrind now calls basic ThinkGrind.... || [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r896 Refined grinding and splitting by storing substates....
14:51 <BabyBug> fortress ai? :o
14:53 <joda_bot> #/whois joda_bot
14:53 <joda_bot> #/op joda_bot
14:53 <joda_bot> :-P
14:53 <joda_bot> #echo /op joda_bot
14:53 <@armabot> /op joda_bot
14:53 <joda_bot> heh
14:53 <joda_bot> :D
14:53 <BabyBug>  #op =)
14:53 <joda_bot> :-P
14:54 <joda_bot> I'm not allowed to be opped I guess
14:54 <joda_bot> #op joda_bot
14:54 <@armabot> joda_bot: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
14:54 <joda_bot> #whoami joda_bot
14:54 <@armabot> joda_bot: (whoami takes no arguments) -- Returns the name of the user calling the command.
14:54 <joda_bot> #whoami
14:54 <@armabot> joda_bot: I don't recognize you.
14:54 <joda_bot> hehe good :D
14:55 <epsy> @op joda_bot
14:55 <teabot> epsy: Error: I need to be opped to op someone.
14:55 <epsy> bbl
14:55 <epsy> #op joda_bot
14:55 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o joda_bot] by armabot
14:55 <@joda_bot> :-)
14:55 <@joda_bot> lol
14:55 <@joda_bot> #deop joda_bot
14:55 <@armabot> joda_bot: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
14:55 <BabyBug> #deop joda_bot
14:55 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o joda_bot] by armabot
14:55 <epsy> :P
14:55 <BabyBug> :D
14:55 <joda_bot> hehe
14:56 <joda_bot> epsy: I read that you spend some thoughts on userfriendly menus ?
14:56 <joda_bot> epsy: did you write some of that down ?
14:56 <epsy> no
14:57 <epsy> bb in  hour
14:57 <joda_bot> k
14:57 <epsy> 1*
15:03 <BabyBug> #si ai fortress
15:03 <@armabot> BabyBug: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “ai fortress” at the moment, sorry.
15:03 <BabyBug> hrmph
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15:39 <smoothice> #m z-man now that we have a fortress AI, we should make a racing AI and a CTF ai :)
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15:51 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r898 Factored out chatbot AI so it can be used by regular AI....
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16:30 <epsy> is smoothice stupid?
16:30 <BabyBug> if i was able to bite my tongue, i'm sure you can too epsy! xD
16:31 <Lizmatic> if you notice he's stupid from that sentence BB then you are a nerd, liar
16:31 <epsy> you aren't ?
16:31 <epsy> Lizmatic, why would we have bots support CTF before we support CTF ourselves?
16:31 <Lizmatic> love you anyway but srsly you big giant nerd :P
16:31 <Lizmatic> I DON'T KNOW!
16:32 <epsy> me neither
16:32 <BabyBug> i hate you Lizmatic
16:32 <epsy> it's quite of a nonsense
16:32 <PinkTomato> We had programmers before Computers :)
16:33 <epsy> yeah and they were coding in python of course
16:37 <joda_bot> ...
16:38 <epsy> joda_bot, want me to write about my menus thing?
16:39 <joda_bot> depends on what your approach was
16:39 <joda_bot> or goal
16:39 <epsy> main problems in menus currently are:
16:39 <epsy> 1/ You cannot customize them
16:39 <epsy> 2/ Nothing can add an entry to a menu
16:39 <joda_bot> epsy: I'd be in favor of making menus least click / key press navigation (user friendly)
16:40 <epsy> 3/ It takes 3 submenus to actually get to the server browser
16:40 <BabyBug> and they whore the cpu!
16:40 <joda_bot> I second 3 :-)
16:40 <epsy> BabyBug, vsync off?
16:40 <BabyBug> yes yes vsync off
16:40 <epsy> so, my idea would be to have it revolve around the server browser
16:40 <epsy> BabyBug, turn it on
16:40 <epsy> BabyBug, problem fixed
16:41 <joda_bot> epsy: hm, but first time entering the game needs a fix too (ask for username and player color)
16:41 <epsy> so, at first run the user would be shown a prompt for ...
16:41 <epsy> gah!
16:41 <epsy> :)
16:41 <PinkTomato> that dosen't work for me
16:41 <epsy> so yeah, username, color, car and whatnot
16:41 <joda_bot> I guess we've got similiar ideas
16:41 <epsy> scrap the select language part
16:42 <PinkTomato> epsy: I suggest not :)
16:42 <joda_bot> But I would not want to remove the single player / local game options
16:42 <epsy> we will just let gettext decide
16:42 <PinkTomato> o
16:42 <PinkTomato> that's ok,
16:42 <epsy> I don't either
16:42 <joda_bot> I'd rather make two start menu entries one shortcut for online gaming, and keep the usual menu entry (with restructured menu)
16:43 <epsy> now the thing would be to have the server browser on the main screen AND other menus, without cluttering everything up
16:43 <joda_bot> My goal would be to also get Crazy Tronners map to be playable offline... but I'm not sure how difficult that is
16:43 <joda_bot> haven't check on that.
16:43 <epsy> we could have a smaller server browser instead, and an entry to reach a more advanced server browser
16:43 <PinkTomato> with ruby support
16:43 <PinkTomato> that would be possible?
16:44 <epsy> if there are server bookmartks set, main screen should only show bookmarks
16:44 <PinkTomato> What about game mode select?
16:44 <joda_bot> PinkTomato: I was more thinking about using the usual php hacks on all platforms upto the point when arma supports real scripting
16:44 <epsy> PinkTomato, required gametype support
16:44 <epsy> joda_bot, hm yeah, that would need canonical names for resources
16:45 <epsy> so we have downloaded items as a list
16:45 <epsy> or tree
16:45 <PinkTomato> epsy: would that be hard to implement?
16:45 <epsy> that being .. ?
16:45 <PinkTomato> server game types
16:45 <epsy> that would mean rewriting gGame from scratch
16:45 <epsy> has been on our TODO list for so long
16:45 <epsy> depends on scripting, really
16:46 <PinkTomato> ah :(
16:46 <epsy> but you can be pretty sure you will see it
16:46 <joda_bot> epsy: I'm not sure if gGame really has to changed for that, but in the end I agree gGame needs refactoring for scripting
16:47 <joda_bot> epsy: one could still use the a delegate console output to script read instructions from script approch/hack
16:47 <joda_bot> like it's done for the current server maps
16:48 <epsy> let people do it, but better make it possible to do it properly, instead of encouraging that :)
16:48 <joda_bot> epsy: the rewrite won't be finished before 2011 :D
16:48 <joda_bot> I guess
16:48 <epsy> heh
16:49 <epsy> just needs some dependencies to be set
16:49 <joda_bot> ok, back to menus
16:49 <epsy> then I'm sure someone will really want to do it
16:49 <epsy> [17:44] <epsy>: if there are server bookmartks set, main screen should only show bookmarks
16:49 <epsy> [17:43] <epsy>: we could have a smaller server browser instead, and an entry to reach a more advanced server browser
16:49 <joda_bot> How did you come up with that idea ?
16:50 <joda_bot> I don't think I want to see only my empty bookmarked servers
16:50 <epsy> the serverbrowser as mainscreen mainly comes from quakelive I guess
16:50 <epsy> joda_bot, only if you have bookmarked servers :)
16:50 <joda_bot> I have styball
16:50 <joda_bot> but to 90% noone is online there
16:50 <joda_bot> so your design bugs :D
16:50 <joda_bot> atleast for me
16:51 <epsy> well, if your filters would hide every listed server in your bookmarks, it would switch to normal server browser
16:51 <joda_bot> why not leave it at the current priorities
16:51 <joda_bot> I usually just sort the servers by number of users / players
16:51 <epsy> yes
16:51 <joda_bot> as the score thing is not something I really understand the ordering
16:52 <joda_bot> of
16:52 <joda_bot> e.g. display bookmarked servers first, then other servers
16:53 <epsy> there's also that
16:53 <epsy> and also: ping bookmarked servers first, too :)
16:53 <joda_bot> I agreed
16:53 <joda_bot> but those are minor details
16:53 <joda_bot> I think
16:54 <epsy> now, should we have two different serverbrowser screens, or a "Customize/Filter" popup ?
16:54 <PinkTomato> what order are server's pinged currently?
16:54 <joda_bot> I rather thought about how to find options etc.
16:54 <epsy> PinkTomato, in the order they are listed
16:54 <joda_bot> listed by the master server
16:54 <epsy> PinkTomato, which is pretty much random
16:54 <PinkTomato> Ah right :)
16:55 <epsy> well, let's say you have the server browser on the top of the screen
16:55 <epsy> under that, you have: Customize Server View and Server Info
16:55 <epsy> then, under under that, you could have Play a Local Game, and options
16:55 <joda_bot> did you miss that feature ?
16:56 <epsy> what feature?
16:56 <joda_bot> I usually only got the problem to find a specific server
16:56 <joda_bot> which might be solved by a simple "Search" option ...
16:56 <epsy> and also maybe a filter, too
16:56 <epsy> well, some people only want to see servers within 50 ms ping, some only under 200
16:57 <epsy> for example
16:57 <joda_bot> sort by ping :D
16:57 <epsy> but I'm not sure what feature you mean
16:57 <epsy> joda_bot, show full/empty
16:57 <joda_bot> I'm more or less thinking that the server browser is the least of our troubles concerning user friendlyness ?
16:58 <epsy> one of the problems was that it was hard to be found
16:58 <joda_bot> yeah, I agreed with that, but that is gobal menu navigation problem
16:59 <joda_bot> is *a* global
16:59 <epsy> and well, I don't really see a problem with having the server browser as main screen
16:59 <epsy> especially since it's the first thing an user will jump to, usually
16:59 <PinkTomato> epsy: network activity is a lot
17:00 <joda_bot> depends :-) is internet available ? do we have a (sane) single player mode
17:00 <epsy> we don't
17:00 <joda_bot> yeah, but we will have :-)
17:00 <epsy> now well, armagetron is a multiplayer game, usually
17:00 <PinkTomato> Its the first thing everyone we know jump to
17:00 <PinkTomato> but the single player gamers don't usually come here :)
17:00 <BabyBug> what's wrong with single player? :s
17:00 <epsy> and it's one of the things the first-time user sometimes doesn't find
17:00 <joda_bot> otherwise we don't get smarter noobs :D
17:01 <joda_bot> hm, yeah, I agree it needs to easier to find
17:01 <PinkTomato> having to wait 50 seconds for the game to ping something I don't want to be  playing would be annyoying :(
17:01 <joda_bot> but I don't want all people to be "forced" into the server browser
17:02 <epsy> and well, for these users that don't say anything, there's still the Local Play button
17:02 <joda_bot> you might not want your boss / firewall admin to know that you just fired up armagetron :D
17:02 <luke-jr> can someone test email me plox
17:02 <epsy> your problem
17:02 <joda_bot> luke-jr: where to ?
17:02 <epsy> PinkTomato, and if you don't want to play an internet game, just click local game?
17:02 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: cache the server list info and refresh when you open it
17:02 <PinkTomato> ah but the server browser jams the game
17:03 <joda_bot> epsy: I still suggest, add a armagetron commandline option
17:03 <luke-jr> joda_bot: luke at dashjr blah org
17:03 <joda_bot> which automatically kicks you to the server browser
17:03 <epsy> PinkTomato, jams the game?
17:03 <joda_bot> and fix the menus for startup without the browser
17:03 <PinkTomato> Loading the server browser in its current state blocks the user from doing anything
17:03 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, you mean just when retrieving the list from the masters?
17:03 <epsy> the server browser isn't on the mainscreen in it's current state either
17:04 <luke-jr> IMO, this discussion should be on a wiki
17:04 <epsy> so that has to be changed as well
17:04 <PinkTomato> right, If I want local game, then I don't wait for that :)
17:04 <epsy> ok, shall we all move to a wiki talk page?
17:04 <epsy> exactly
17:04 <PinkTomato> Local Game, Lan Game, Internet Game, Game Options, Exit to?
17:04 <epsy> joda_bot, you could have a setting for the server browser to only ping bookmarks
17:05 <luke-jr> epsy: that defeats the purpose of the server browser :p
17:05 <epsy> that's why that wouldn't be default
17:06 <PinkTomato> That wouldn't need to be a setting?
17:06 <epsy> I would suggest default to be first bookmarks, then if there's no bookmark to be shown, regular servers
17:06 <epsy> but joda_bot's asking for it
17:06 <PinkTomato> That should be what happens when you select Internet Game -> Bookmarks
17:06 <joda_bot> epsy: I think you've got alot of valid points. But I'm opposed to your server browser as "main menu", because you neglect valid use cases that u don't use
17:06 <epsy> because he can't save his productivity properly :>
17:06 <epsy> what do I neglect for use cases?
17:07 <epsy> PinkTomato, no, that should only show bookmarks
17:07 <joda_bot> people on LAN parties, kids playing on a local school computer (never getting any servers on that list)
17:07 <joda_bot> I guess there are alot more use cases like single player games
17:07 <joda_bot> etc.
17:07 <epsy> then they can put themselves on that list
17:07 <PinkTomato> Internet Browser takes forever on port blocked firewall
17:08 <joda_bot> that's why I suggest to make a extra shortcut or commandline option which directly jumps to the server browser (+ fixing the overall menu structure)
17:08 <epsy> and have arma remember they only want to browse lan
17:08 <PinkTomato> epsy: But its adding useful information? Surely adding pinging servers to bookmarks would be useful?
17:08 <epsy> yes
17:09 <PinkTomato> Adding it as a setting makes the bookmark browser redundant?
17:09 <joda_bot> epsy: first impression is important... your website does not usually start with "downloads" feature but a general overview what the site is about :D
17:09 <joda_bot> same should apply to armagetron's main menu
17:09 <epsy> the guy already downloaded the game then
17:09 <epsy> now he wants to play
17:09 <joda_bot> show the use cases of the armagetron application and let the user select what he/she wants to do
17:10 <epsy> but he first has to go through player character creation
17:10 <joda_bot> might even have been included with the pc, copied from a friend or on a CD
17:10 <joda_bot> download is not the only way of getting arma
17:10 <epsy> otherwise you can get a boring main menu like tremulous's
17:11 <joda_bot> epsy: the player creating is an idea, I'm not sure if it fits the usual use case ...
17:11 <joda_bot> oh ok, bad phrasing
17:11 <joda_bot> it definitly fits the mainstream use case
17:11 <epsy> joda_bot, well, controls have to be set during that phase
17:11 <epsy> so it fits ever phase
17:11 <epsy> er
17:11 <epsy> case
17:12 <joda_bot> epsy: player name must not be configured on the same option page as keybindings
17:12 <joda_bot> for local games you can just configure keys and play, or even play without configuring anything
17:12 <epsy> So, main menu would be: Play online, Practise and Settings?
17:12 <epsy> joda_bot, of course not
17:12 <joda_bot> the newer clients just use the local user name for player name (which is ok too)
17:13 <epsy> except on windows :)
17:13 <PinkTomato> Maybe the first start up should be to choose between a z,x,c standard key binding or up,down,left,right etc.
17:13 <joda_bot> It does not work on Windows ?
17:13 <joda_bot> I thought it did ?
17:13 <epsy> but they will sure like to set their own color
17:13 <epsy> and so forth
17:13 <joda_bot> no, not if they just want to get an idea if they like the game :D
17:14 <PinkTomato> a grid of colours to select?
17:14 <PinkTomato> and then with a customise
17:14 <epsy> PinkTomato, mmm no :(
17:14 <epsy> three color components and a preview?
17:14 <joda_bot> PinkTomato: heh, I guess epsy and me are just talking about moving existing features not making vista like user friendly rotating eye candy :D
17:14 <epsy> a preview beinga niiice rotating cycle
17:15 <joda_bot> epsy: do we ?
17:15 <epsy> not in the first place
17:15 <PinkTomato> A grid is more user friendly ^_^
17:15 <epsy> but sucks
17:15 <epsy> three color bars
17:15 <epsy> = win
17:15 <PinkTomato> well it won't work without mouse control
17:15 <PinkTomato> the gird, I mean
17:15 <epsy> can work with keyboard
17:16 <epsy> and
17:16 <joda_bot> epsy: I like your suggestion with the talk page, might be good to document the current menu structure
17:16 <epsy> ah *
17:16 <epsy> PinkTomato, well, idea is to keep both
17:16 <joda_bot> and then find out what people tend to think about
17:16 <epsy> PinkTomato, think about consoles/arcades and phones
17:16 <epsy> it was sarcastic >.>
17:16 <joda_bot> I like the perspective with Online, Pratice etc. just not sure where LAN fits in etc.
17:16 <epsy> we're all here, so a talk page wouldn't be of any benefit
17:17 <epsy> ah
17:17 <epsy> Play Online, Play on LAN, Practise, Options, Exit
17:17 <Lizmatic> epsy, TST TST TST!
17:17 <epsy> Lizmatic, like, on the same day than FFF?
17:17 <joda_bot> epsy: but the wiki allows people to inspect and comment on our views later
17:17 <epsy> yes
17:17 <joda_bot> which is kind of difficult here ?
17:17 <epsy> so we will first get a document to review
17:18 <epsy> then let people post stuff on the talk page
17:18 <joda_bot> perhaps I should first think about if anyone is willing to comment on our menu idea ?
17:18 <epsy> we don't need to make choices for everything, but we don't want to use a talk page on an empty page
17:18 <joda_bot> otherwise we can just decide ourself :-)
17:18 <epsy> PinkTomato is doing so
17:19 <PinkTomato> epsy: ?
17:19 <Lizmatic> Epsy, when is FFF?:o
17:19 <epsy> [18:18] <joda_bot>: perhaps I should first think about if anyone is willing to comment on our menu idea ?
17:19 <epsy> Lizmatic, see #.tourneys
17:19 <PinkTomato> oh, I am. hehe :)
17:20 <PinkTomato> Help for the function in option delay could come faster
17:20 <epsy> what?
17:20 <joda_bot> I guess tomato is talking about the "tooltips" below the menu items
17:20 <PinkTomato> When you are in settings, help for the function at the buttom of the screen, but it takes ages to appear
17:20 <epsy> ah that
17:20 <epsy> definitely
17:21 <PinkTomato> Also Display Settings might need clearer names for the options within it
17:21 <Lizmatic> ah
17:22 <epsy> PinkTomato, well, what would that be?
17:22 <PinkTomato> I always seem to look in every menu till I find that "swap mode" function I was after etc
17:22 <joda_bot> epsy: ok, I think PinkTomato and other peoples annoyances should really be collected first ... might give us a strange new perspective
17:23 <epsy> bugtracker?
17:23 <epsy> tag your bugs with "menus"
17:23 <joda_bot> epsy: how about I'll make a wiki page about the current menu layout and we create a list of problems below that ?
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17:23 <PinkTomato> It's not clear to me the difference between Preferences (with sparks, Sky) and Detail Settings.
17:23 <epsy> that would be part of it
17:23 <BabyBug> Genki! <3
17:24 <Genki> heya
17:24 <epsy> PinkTomato, preference is more about preferences and detail settings are more about fps
17:24 <joda_bot> PinkTomato: do you know how to use the wiki? and do you know how to use the launchpad.net bugtracker ?
17:24 <epsy> now that's meant for the views of a casual game
17:24 <epsy> r
17:25 <epsy> ie. turning wall texture off will be a preference for an advanced player
17:25 <PinkTomato> Not done the bugtracker, but wiki is ok. Sky settings seem more of a detail though
17:26 <joda_bot> epsy: I guess the same is true for many other forum users ? they might have used the wiki for ladle but not the bugtracker ?
17:26 <epsy> PinkTomato, Detail settings = Performance
17:26 <epsy> not detail as "ohh look at this tiny object in the corner"
17:26 <joda_bot> Yeah, we might it call it Qaulity/Performance later :D
17:27 <PinkTomato> Hmm, there is a thin line between the two, as details can affect frames
17:27 <epsy> joda_bot, idl
17:27 <PinkTomato> as well
17:27 <epsy> idk *
17:27 <epsy> most users don't use either
17:27 <PinkTomato> true
17:27 <PinkTomato> Turning sound off should be easier, Currently you use Sound Quality option
17:28 <joda_bot> ok, great getting all this nice input, and no wiki page done yet :-)
17:29 <epsy> well, you do it, I'll work on modules a bit
17:29 <joda_bot> luke-jr: what about the email did you get it?
17:29 <joda_bot> epsy: I'll do some of it right now... so perhaps some users might extend and help :D just making the structure of the page
17:30 <joda_bot> epsy: what modules ?
17:30 <epsy> those that don't exist yet :)
17:30 <epsy> I have to think of a proper way of building them now
17:31 <epsy> @g trunk-eevent-modules
17:31 <teabot> epsy: https://code.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/trunk-eevent-modules - “~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/trunk-eevent-modules” branch in ...
17:33 <joda_bot> epsy: ah ok
17:34 <luke-jr> joda_bot: no :<
17:34 <luke-jr> epsy: modules exist for zones
17:35 <epsy> luke-jr, read: dynamically loadable modules
17:35 <luke-jr> they are dynamically loadable ☺
17:35 <epsy> are they?
17:35 <luke-jr> the problem is there is nothing to load them dynamically
17:35 <luke-jr> but they are perfectly capable of being loaded as such
17:35 <epsy> yes, so that's waht I'm doing, grrr :)
17:35 <luke-jr> literally, just a dlopen should do it ☺
17:36 <epsy> yes, now doing it properly takes a bit more
17:36 <luke-jr> "properly"?
17:36 <epsy> eg. you don't dlopen a python script
17:36 <epsy> :P
17:36 <luke-jr> o right
17:36 <joda_bot> eh luke-jr was the blah.org required or spam protection ?
17:36 <luke-jr> no idea how python modules would work
17:36 <luke-jr> joda_bot: it was a dot
17:36 <epsy> I don't know either
17:36 <joda_bot> luke-jr: dashjr DOT org ?
17:36 <joda_bot> :D
17:36 <epsy> but there's room for different module loaders
17:36 <luke-jr> :p
17:37 <joda_bot> luke-jr: if I got the address wrong, well just tell me ... wait
17:37 <epsy> which could be created from a module :D
17:45 <PinkTomato> argh, I spilt my drink.
17:45 <PinkTomato> yay, keyboard works
17:45 <PinkTomato> ,./1lm [p;l.µ 7
17:45 <PinkTomato> [
17:45 <PinkTomato> p[]
17:45 <PinkTomato> ;l./;@,vb opl;ool.bn v}@~
17:46 <PinkTomato> oops, sorry.
17:47 <epsy>  /query PinkTomato
17:57 <luke-jr> epsy: you might want to check zEffector for the module interface I made
17:58 <epsy> someone makes an instance of their magic class and hand it to some "registrar" ?
18:02 <luke-jr> err, no :p
18:02 <luke-jr> an instance of a simple template that registers the static factory function
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18:34 <Durka> #hello
18:35 <@armabot> Hello Durka :) Quote #61: "<MrBougo> amragetron p2p client, with a game inside and both would interact: you get a better ratio when you kill people, stay in the zone to keep downloading! the first team who downloaded the whole film wins" (added by epsy at 03:39 PM, October 27, 2007)
18:35 <Durka> anybody home?
18:35 <Durka> again?
18:35 <Durka> :P
18:35 <BabyBug> Boo!
18:35 <ct|kyle> o0 Durka
18:36 <Durka> o0 ct|kyle
18:42 <noob13> !tea
18:42 <noob13> #tea
18:42 <@armabot> noob13: Fortress Café: Players (2/32): noob13, PlayerNuby
18:43 <ct|kyle> #rand D U R K A
18:46 <joda_bot> epsy: finished initial version of wiki page
18:46 <joda_bot> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Menu
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18:59 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r899 Using chatbot AI for defense bots now. Mixed results, tuning...
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19:19 <Durka> ct|kyle: ping
19:19 <ct|kyle> Durka: piong
19:20 <Durka> on
19:20 <ct|kyle> off
19:20 <Durka> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/
19:20 <Durka> how do i find the background grid image
19:20 <epsy> right click -> view background image
19:21 <Durka> huh?
19:22 <BabyBug> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/images/theme/wikibg.png
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19:22 <Durka> ahh shit
19:22 <Durka> i saw that
19:22 <Durka> just didnt click on it
19:23 <Durka> how can i make a much smaller version of that
19:23 <Durka> i wanna use that instead of http://durka.ath.cx/images/grind.png
19:23 <Durka> er, http://durka.ath.cx/images/grid.png
19:23 <ct|kyle> ask guru3 / wrtlprnft
19:24 <epsy> Durka, resize? start GIMP?
19:24 <Durka> http://www.shrinkpictures.com/processed/phpSTXJ8iPM.jpg
19:24 <Durka> sweet
19:25 <epsy> use a real image editor
19:25 <Durka> should i keep it as jpg tho?
19:25 <Durka> nowai
19:25 <Durka> fake ones ftw
19:25 <epsy> up to you
19:27 <Durka> epsy: it turned out nicely :P
19:27 <Durka> http://durka.ath.cx/
19:29 <luke-jr> hi Durka
19:30 <Durka> hi luke-jr
19:30 <luke-jr> Durka: do u want recognizers on ur server?
19:31 <Durka> what do u mean
19:31 <luke-jr> http://www.starshipmodeler.com/tech/ms_tron_recognizer08.jpg
19:31 <luke-jr> that guy coming and crushing random cycles
19:31 <luke-jr> instead of a death zone
19:32 <Durka> lol
19:32 <Durka> very funny
19:32 <luke-jr> requires 0.3.2+ for clients
19:32 <Durka> ...
19:32  * luke-jr is SO close to making it possible.
19:32 <luke-jr> I have flying zones already
19:32 <luke-jr> just need to get a 3DS model to replace the circle
19:33 <epsy> :-D
19:33 <BabyBug> can't you make a 3ds model?
19:33 <luke-jr> BabyBug: no, 3DS is proprietary
19:33 <luke-jr> but that's not the point
19:33 <luke-jr> the point is *rendering* the model
19:34 <epsy> yeah, this comes to an imortant point
19:34 <BabyBug> which is?!
19:34 <epsy> we will need a decent format for models
19:35  * cpayan nods
19:35 <luke-jr> epsy: model formats look simple, from a quick reading of r*.cpp
19:35 <luke-jr> I imagine a XML-based format wouldn't be too hard
19:35 <cpayan> i don't know much about the workings of arma yet but this stuff over models has come up over and over again the last few days
19:35 <epsy> luke-jr, it exists
19:35 <luke-jr> with a 3DS converter
19:35 <luke-jr> epsy: it does?
19:36 <epsy> and is supported by approximately 0 3D editor
19:36 <epsy> COLLADA
19:36 <luke-jr> I found a Recognizer 3DS on Google
19:36 <luke-jr> but it's not GPL compatible
19:36 <epsy> but still, I'm not really in favour of an XML format for models
19:36 <ct|kyle> that should come out on /admin kill/kick/ban
19:37 <luke-jr> epsy: fits better with resources?
19:37 <luke-jr> I mean, sure, we can easily make binary resources
19:37 <luke-jr> but then we can't do the nice metadata stuff
19:37 <luke-jr> not as easily anyhow
19:38 <BabyBug> easy isn't best! 8-)
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19:39 <epsy> luke-jr, we already have to make binary resources
19:40 <luke-jr> yes, for textures
19:40 <epsy> luke-jr, regarding metadata, I have an idea
19:40 <epsy> why not have "catalogs" of binary resources
19:40 <luke-jr> ?
19:40 <epsy> a reource that defines one ore more other resources
19:40 <luke-jr> the metadata is already in the filepath, technically
19:40 <epsy> well, we'll sure like to add more metadata
19:41 <luke-jr> the point of having it in the file itself is so it's harder to misplace it
19:41 <ct|kyle> CSS
19:41 <luke-jr> …
19:41 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: CSS is an entirely different matter
19:41 <luke-jr> one problem I've been pondering lately, tho:
19:42 <luke-jr> what image format supports multiple alpha channels?
19:42 <luke-jr> I think we need at least two
19:42 <luke-jr> one for object transparency
19:42 <luke-jr> and one for "object colour mix"
19:42 <dlh> tiff
19:42 <luke-jr> eg, to make green cycles green
19:42 <luke-jr> dlh: really?
19:42 <dlh> Yes
19:44 <epsy> isn't tiff bollocks to use?
19:44 <luke-jr> epsy: tiff.gz?
19:45 <luke-jr> failing that, is PNG extensible enough, I wonder?
19:46 <epsy> we could make XPNG!
19:46 <epsy> I wonder how inefficient would .xcf be
19:47 <cpayan> the gimp format?
19:48 <epsy> yes
19:48 <epsy> GIMP has a C exporter O_O
19:49 <epsy> also, TIFF doesn't want my additional channel
19:50 <epsy> so it would indeed only leave xcf :S
19:51 <epsy> we could also propose having these channels on another image
19:51 <cpayan> so we could make something in the gimp and have it running around on the grid without much hassle? :)
19:52 <epsy> because I don't really think we will like to be messing around with layers and stuff
19:52 <epsy> not too much hassle, except for us
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19:55 <epsy> dlh, luke-jr: feel good with abusing channels from other images?
19:55 <luke-jr> epsy: not really.
19:55 <luke-jr> I'd rather make the image 2x width and cut it in half
19:55 <luke-jr> or 2x height
19:56 <luke-jr> then overlay the two halves for 6 channels total
19:56 <luke-jr> 8*
19:56 <luke-jr> no idea what the extra 3 channels could be used for
19:57 <epsy> what if you have a texture that should mix colors of two teams? :)
19:57 <luke-jr> too much mixing destroys the colour IMO
19:57 <luke-jr> BUT
19:57 <luke-jr> you did bring up a possibility indirectly
19:57 <luke-jr> one additional channel would be invert-alpha mix
19:58 <epsy> not really for mixing all colors together :)
19:58 <epsy> I don't get it, care to explain?
19:58 <luke-jr> epsy: make a picture and invert it
19:59 <luke-jr> normal transparency just mixes the background
19:59 <epsy> color-wise?
19:59 <luke-jr> inverted transparency mixes the opposite of the background
19:59 <luke-jr> so if the BG is yellow, inverted is purple
19:59 <luke-jr> I think
19:59 <epsy> and then?
19:59 <luke-jr> ?
20:00 <luke-jr> mirror? :D
20:00 <epsy> O_o
20:01 <luke-jr> red, green, blue, transparent(alpha), invert transparent(red), mirror(green), object colour(blue), and inverted mirror(alpha)
20:02 <luke-jr> crap
20:02 <luke-jr> thought of another channel :x
20:02 <luke-jr> additive transparent
20:05 <luke-jr> image1: red, green, blue, transparent(alpha); image2: inverted transparent(red), mirror(green), object colour(blue), and additive transparent(alpha); image3: variable(red), inverted mirror(green), inverted object colour(blue), and additive inverted transparent(alpha)
20:05 <luke-jr> how do we store the image count metadata? XD
20:07 <luke-jr> well
20:08 <luke-jr> KolourPaint at least lets me give PNGs arbitrary metadata fields ;)
20:08 <luke-jr> we could just require metadata for more than 4 channels
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20:10 <Girlw221> WoW I just came from irc://irc.ninth-gate.org/projectw and they told me about you guys.. H
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20:11 <epsy> you really seem so interested
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20:12 <coldcrow> #tea
20:12 <@armabot> coldcrow: Fortress Café: Players (15/32): 33, <<~luAp~>>, CRaZy B3eR, CT~Voodoo (voodoo@forums), free kill (dlh@generalconsumption.org), Monkey.D.Luffy, Nikk¦A¦, nixie, pruWord (Word@forums), Revenge, rope, sithy, Vanhayes (Van-hayes@forums), waterglow, ~|DS|~|Alien|~
20:12 <coldcrow> woooooo
20:12 <Vanhayes> pong
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20:20 <luke-jr> epsy: dlh: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+spec/many-channel-textures
20:24 <joda_bot> luke-jr: why so many channels ?
20:25 <joda_bot> luke-jr: did my email arrive by now ?
20:25 <luke-jr> joda_bot: the main/original goal was the first 5
20:25 <luke-jr> joda_bot: i thin k so
20:25 <joda_bot> it's himmig something
20:25 <joda_bot> is object colour a channel
20:25 <joda_bot> ?
20:26 <luke-jr> it would be
20:26 <luke-jr> currently is for cycle textures
20:27 <luke-jr> what I wonder is how we will represent moving models
20:28 <luke-jr> for example, the cycles we have right now actually have moving wheels
20:28 <joda_bot> luke-jr: that's not part of the textures though ?
20:29 <luke-jr> no, the movement is currently hard coded
20:29 <joda_bot> and only works for non-moviepack cycle ... I know
20:31 <BabyBug> zman lies! fortress ai so doesn't grind! :@
20:32 <luke-jr> BabyBug: neither do you!
20:32 <joda_bot> luke-jr: hm, perhaps we can use MD3 or MD5 keyframe animations for that
20:32 <BabyBug> well that all depends on what i meant to be grinding 8-)
20:32 <joda_bot> if we find a nice lib for that, we'd might also add a lobby room with md3 characters later :D
20:33 <luke-jr> joda_bot: or MNG? :o
20:33 <joda_bot> mng ?
20:33 <luke-jr> but then each frame needs prerendering
20:33 <luke-jr> MNG is animated PNG
20:33 <joda_bot> ...
20:34 <joda_bot> no, I'd want polygon animated cycles :D
20:34 <joda_bot> with drivers turning their heads :D
20:34 <luke-jr> so you want animated models
20:34 <luke-jr> not animated textures ☹)
20:34 <luke-jr> ☺
20:36 <joda_bot> hm, how about: http://assimp.sourceforge.net/main_features.html
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22:57 <cpayan> Hibernate does not seem to work worth a damn on my laptop
22:58 -!- sunny [n=sunny@p5B00C874.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #Armagetron
22:59 <epsy> hi
23:00 <luke-jr> cpayan: hibernate never works worth a crap
23:00 <cpayan> Too bad, it's a good idea
23:01 <cpayan> I think this might be my laptop's fault though. The latch is loose.
23:06 <epsy> weeee, TV works on my new line, finally :>
23:06 <epsy> we can scrap the old line
23:11 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r901 A lone defending AI will not switch to attack and back to de... || [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r900 Leakfix....
23:14 <cpayan> Does anyone know where I can look up free wifi hotspots? Is there a source for this kind of thing?
23:16 <epsy> @gtfy free wifi hotspots
23:16 <teabot> free: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=wifi%20hotspots
23:16 <epsy> @gtfy cpayan free wifi hotspots
23:16 <teabot> cpayan: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=free%20wifi%20hotspots
23:16 <cpayan> heh
23:17 <epsy> :>
23:17 <cpayan> class, pure class, epsy
23:17 <epsy> I gotta agree
23:17 <cpayan> Also. I googled it six ways to sunday and was hoping maybe someone already knew a wifi hotspotsearcher I hadn't found yet
23:17 <cpayan> so thanks. thanks for nothing
23:17 <cpayan> blah
23:18 <cpayan> :)
23:18 <epsy> what's the first link for, then?
23:19 <cpayan> ...
23:19 <epsy> is it irrelevant?
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23:40 <Lackadaisical> guru3: are PMs on the forums automatically deleted after some time?
23:42 <madmax> #tea
23:42 <@armabot> madmax: Fortress Café: Players (10/32): .dBd|Pathetique, 2020, DatSunny, Hedera, M.C, noobSaibot, `Ww Pushin, |x|Cid, ~|DS|~|JS|~, °höMö
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23:48 <guru3> Lackadaisical: I don't think so, but I know the inbox will never store more than 50 messages. (Old ones either get deleted or just aren't accessible anymore.)
23:49 <ivantis2> Pathetique???
23:49 <ivantis2> is on?
23:49 <coldcrow> #tea
23:49 <@armabot> coldcrow: Fortress Café: Players (12/32): .dBd|Pathetique, 2020, DatSunny, Hedera, Lackadaisical, madmax, myte, noob13, noobSaibot, Radian, |x|Cid, °höMö
23:50 <ivantis2> #sd -v fortress caf
23:50 <@armabot> ivantis2: Fortress Café (armagetron.at:4539) running 0.2.8_alpha20090228 unix dedicated, url: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/, Description: “This is a fortress server. Expect to be kicked if you don't know how to play. To learn how to play try http://wiki.armagetronad.net/“, Players (12/32): .dBd|Pathetique, 2020, DatSunny, Hedera, Lackadaisical, madmax, myte, noob13, noobSaibot, Radian, |x|Cid, (1 more message)
23:50 <Lackadaisical> ah ok thanks.. i couldn't find one and i was starting to  doubt if i ever sent it
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Log from 2009-03-06:
--- Day changed Fri Mar 06 2009
00:03 -!- nsh22 [n=neal@unaffiliated/nsh22] has joined #armagetron
00:03 <nsh22> hey hey hey
00:09 <ivantis2> faat albert
00:10 <ivantis2> #ls ntp
00:10 <@armabot> ivantis2: timed out
00:10 <ivantis2> #ls ivantis
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00:10 <@armabot> ivantis2: ivantis has last been seen on Fortress Café 15 minutes ago.
00:10 <nsh22> #ls neal
00:11 <@armabot> nsh22: timed out
00:11 <nsh22> #weather innisfil
00:11 <@armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Innisfil, Innisfil, Ontario is 37.4°F (6:11 PM EST on March 05, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: 12.2°F. Windchill: 33.8°F. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Falling).
00:11 <nsh22> #ping
00:11 <@armabot> pong
00:12 <animuson> #weather 68138
00:12 <@armabot> animuson: The current temperature in Chalco Hills Rec Area, Omaha, Nebraska is 66.0°F (5:12 PM CST on March 05, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 46.4°F. Pressure: 29.53 in 999.9 hPa (Rising).
00:13 <ivantis2> #weather 66044
00:14 <@armabot> ivantis2: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 82.0°F (5:13 PM CST on March 05, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 26%. Dew Point: 44.6°F. Pressure: 29.58 in 1001.6 hPa (Steady).
00:14 <animuson> hey ivantis :)
00:14 <ivantis2> hey
00:14 <animuson> i was actually here to look for u but i forgot
00:14 <animuson> XD
00:14 <ivantis2> argh what am i doing?
00:14 <ivantis2> i need to get back to work
00:14 <ivantis2> but what did you want?
00:14 <animuson> is there a patch-type file that contains all the changes made by ur patch?
00:15 <ivantis2> you could generate one i suppose
00:15 <ivantis2> i dont have one
00:15 <animuson> are all the changes just in gWinZone.cpp and .h?
00:15 <ivantis2> no, many other files
00:15 <animuson> hmmm
00:16 <animuson> ill just install my stuff into ur version :P
00:16 <ivantis2> deep, deep in XML parsing, ePlayer.*, some other files too
00:16 <animuson> itd be easier
00:16 <animuson> do ur mods change anything or just add stuff?
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00:17 <ivantis2> both
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00:19 <animuson> hey smoothice :)
00:19 <smoothice> hi
00:19 <ivantis2> hey smoothice
00:19 <nsh22> hiya smotth
00:19 <smoothice> lol hi
00:19  * nsh22 is away: 
00:19 <ivantis2> before i get asked any more questions, i need to get back to work though
00:19 <animuson> ur presence does not go unnoticed :P
00:19 <smoothice> lol
00:20 <animuson> occasionally
00:20 <animuson> ^_^
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00:21 <animuson> how do i copy files?
00:21 <smoothice> cp?
00:21 <ivantis2> that was the most vague question i have ever been asked
00:22 <animuson> lol
00:22 <animuson> cp "file path" "new file path"?
00:22 <ivantis2> yeah
00:22 <smoothice> #m epsy who the frick cares if you don't support CTF. It would just be a fun new project... -.-
00:22  * nsh22 is back (gone 00:02:51)
00:22 <@armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
00:22 <ivantis2> or scp
00:23 <ivantis2> scp [user][@host:]file [user][@host:]destination
00:23 <smoothice> scp is for nerds or cannot use SSH
00:23 <smoothice> who*
00:23 <ivantis2> wtf?
00:24 <ivantis2> scp runs over ssh
00:24 <nsh22> i run tyuou over
00:24 <ivantis2> and how would ssh replace scp?
00:24 <ivantis2> scp ivantis@somewhere ./
00:24 <ivantis2> scp ivantis@somewhere:/blah/blah ./
00:25 <ivantis2> how else would you get it?
00:25 <madmax> you setup a web server through ssh haha
00:25 <ivantis2> stuff in braces is optional
00:25 <ivantis2> then invent some new protocol?
00:26 <ivantis2> sfcphttpshhbbqp
00:26 <nsh22> smoothice: your losing the arguement :P
00:27 <ivantis2> dah! im doing it again!
00:28 <ivantis2> someone ban me so that i can work
00:28 <ivantis2> this project is due in a few days
00:28 <smoothice> umm
00:29 <smoothice> #ban ivantis2
00:29 <nsh22> #poll ivantis2
00:29 <ivantis2> #r
00:29 <ivantis2> dead?
00:29 <ivantis2> #ping
00:29 <@armabot> pong
00:29 <ivantis2> #roulette
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00:29  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
00:30 <nsh22> smoothice: nw df is pretty popular :P
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00:30 <smoothice> nsh22: yep
00:30 <nsh22> hey, where would i put the command for spwainging zones
00:30 <smoothice> ?
00:30 <nsh22> settings_custom?
00:31 <smoothice> wait
00:31 <smoothice> spawning zones for each round?
00:31 <nsh22> yes
00:31 <smoothice> you have to use php for that
00:31 <nsh22> ...
00:31 <nsh22> what about random spawning zones?
00:31 <coldcrow> #tea
00:31 <smoothice> you have to use php for that too
00:32 -!- coldcrow is now known as akira_arma
00:32 <CruZ> hey, does anybody know how to add a ban manually by editing the bans.txt ?
00:32 <@armabot> coldcrow: Fortress Café: Players (14/32): 2020, Durka skipdef© (DDMJ@forums), Gusbo T Jam esq, hand, Hedera, Hera, Lackadaisical, madmax (madmax@forums), man2d, noob13, noob44, pavelo (pavelo@forums), poop, vol
00:32 <nsh22> ok, how would i use php for it (i.e. what files)
00:32 <CruZ> one line - one ip ?
00:32 <smoothice> CruZ: you have to specify a time too...
00:32 <smoothice> CruZ: try banning yourself to see what the format is
00:33 <CruZ> so for example: 255.255.255.255 99999
00:33 <smoothice> nsh22: you have to get luke-jr to enable a php parser for you
00:33 <smoothice> CruZ: I'd say so
00:33 <CruZ> ok
00:33 <CruZ> thx
00:33 <smoothice> k
00:33 <nsh22> sdoesnt ct+sty come with one?
00:34 <smoothice> sty+ct has not one line of PHP code in it
00:34 <smoothice> all sty+ct does is add more stuff the ladderlog and add some extra commands here and there
00:34 <smoothice> the ladderlog stuff is very powerful
00:34 <smoothice> but is not php
00:34 <smoothice> the php parser parses the ladderlog and sends output through stdout to arma itself
00:35 <animuson> it doesnt let me bzr ivantis' arma-hacks -> http://pastebin.com/m3883b6eb
00:35 <smoothice> meh
00:35 <smoothice> that branch is old and crappy
00:35 <smoothice> oooh
00:35 <smoothice> bzr error
00:35 <smoothice> animuson: bzr --version
00:35 <smoothice> what version of bzr?
00:36 <animuson> 1.3.1
00:36 <smoothice> the newst is like 1.12
00:36 <animuson> :P
00:36 <nsh22> luke-jr: do you have a php parser for your servers?
00:36 <smoothice> nsh22: you have to write them yourself... and you have to decide what you want it to do
00:36 <nsh22> o0
00:37 <smoothice> I could do it for you
00:37 <smoothice> lol
00:37 <animuson> how do i upgrade it?
00:37 <smoothice> what OS is ur vps running
00:37 <animuson> ubuntu
00:37 <smoothice> ubuntu x.xx?
00:38 <animuson> 8.something
00:38 <nsh22> queston where is users.cfg
00:38 <smoothice> ???
00:39 <animuson> 8.04 :P
00:40 <smoothice> get 8.10
00:40 <smoothice> google it
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00:40 <luke-jr> nsh22: service bots are supported, yes
00:40 <luke-jr> nsh22: though Perl > PHP
00:40 <smoothice> ...
00:40 <smoothice> perl is crap in a hole
00:40 <luke-jr> nsh22: your current one is BASH
00:40 <nsh22> luke-jr: but i have to have my own?
00:40 <luke-jr> PHP is crap :p
00:40 <smoothice> perl is SH --- IT
00:40 <luke-jr> nsh22: the map rotator is a BASH one
00:41 <luke-jr> smoothice: shows that you know nothing of Perl ☺
00:41 <smoothice> I do.. but not the inner workings of it
00:41 <nsh22> luke-jr: what i want to do is zone spawning
00:41 <luke-jr> nobody who knows Perl hates it :p
00:41 <nsh22> my server just dieded
00:41 <smoothice> crash
00:41 <luke-jr> nsh22: O.o
00:41 <animuson> theres not an easy way to upgrade it?
00:41 <smoothice> apt-get dist-upgrade
00:41 <smoothice> butp
00:41 <smoothice> but
00:41 <smoothice> run these first
00:42 <smoothice> apt-get update
00:42 <smoothice> apt-get upgrade
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00:42 <smoothice> apt-get dist-upgrade
00:42 <animuson> i just did
00:42 <smoothice> all of those?
00:42 <luke-jr> eating supper, bbiab
00:42 <smoothice> ...
00:42 <smoothice> k
00:42 <luke-jr> animuson: btw, smoothice is giving anicent directions
00:42 <smoothice> screw you luke-jr :P
00:42 <smoothice> those aren't ancient
00:42 <luke-jr> animuson: put 'aptitude' instead of 'apt-get'
00:42 <luke-jr> apt-get is obsolete
00:42 <smoothice> ...
00:42 <smoothice> so?
00:42 <animuson> it upgrade proftpd :-/
00:42 <animuson> lol
00:42 <luke-jr> and using it can be destructive
00:42 <luke-jr> animuson: I'd uninstall proftpd; FTP is a security hole
00:43 <luke-jr> anyhow, eating supper, bbiab
00:43 <nsh22> luke-jr: what should i use for a zone spawner?
00:43 <smoothice> php
00:43 <smoothice> nsh22: use php and tell luke-jr to shut up :D
00:43 <luke-jr> nsh22: Perl or BASH, depending on complexity
00:43 <smoothice> wait
00:43 <smoothice> nsh22 is paying luke-jr
00:43 <smoothice> not vice versa
00:43 <smoothice> so nsh22 can do whatever he wants
00:43 <smoothice> nsh22: use php
00:43 <luke-jr> nsh22: PHP is designed for webpages and doesn't work well for anything else
00:43 <luke-jr> nsh22: PHP is also a memory hog
00:43 <smoothice> nsh22: incorrect
00:43 <smoothice> nsh22: x2
00:43 <nsh22> sry smooth but he has more experiance on these things :P
00:43 <smoothice> says who?
00:43 <luke-jr> smoothice: Sty v2 working yet?
00:43 <luke-jr> kthx
00:44 <smoothice> ....
00:44 <luke-jr> ☺
00:44 <smoothice> that's C++ dummy
00:44 <smoothice> DIFFERENT!
00:44 <luke-jr> it's programming
00:44 <luke-jr> now, I really should go eat my supper
00:44 <luke-jr> it's getting cold
00:44 <smoothice> nah
00:44 <luke-jr> bbiab
00:44 <smoothice> so/
00:44 <smoothice> so what about your stupid dinner?
00:47 -!- coldcrow is now known as akira_arma
00:47 <animuson> when i try to install bzr is stops and says bzr is already the newest version
00:47 <animuson> :-/
00:47 <smoothice> ...
00:47 <smoothice> for 8.04?
00:47 <luke-jr> so why do you think you dont have it?
00:47 <smoothice> ?
00:52 <smoothice> #cfg2 ladderlog_write_
00:52 <smoothice> nsh22: these are all the things the script can respond to
00:52 <@armabot> smoothice: LADDERLOG_WRITE_ADMIN_COMMAND: ladderlog_write_admin_command_help(Default: 0 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_ADMIN_LOGIN: ladderlog_write_admin_login_help(Default: 0 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_ADMIN_LOGOUT: ladderlog_write_admin_logout_help(Default: 0 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_ALL: Set all the LADDER_LOG_WRITE_* settings to the same value || LADDERLOG_WRITE_AUTHORITY_BLURB: Write to ladderlog: (11 more messages)
00:52 <smoothice> #more
00:52 <@armabot> smoothice: AUTHORITY_BLURB (Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_BALL_VANISH: ladderlog_write_ball_vanish_help(Default: 0 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_BASEZONE_CONQUERED: Write to ladderlog: BASEZONE_CONQUERED (Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_BASEZONE_CONQUERER: Write to ladderlog: BASEZONE_CONQUERER (Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_BASEZONE_CONQUERER_TEAM: ladderlog_write_basezone_conquerer_team_help(Default: (10 more messages)
00:52 <smoothice> #more
00:52 <@armabot> smoothice: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_CHAT: Write to ladderlog: CHAT [/me] (Default: 0 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_COMMAND: Write to ladderlog: COMMAND (Default: 0 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_DEATH_BASEZONE_CONQUERED: ladderlog_write_death_basezone_conquered_help(Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_DEATH_DEATHZONE: ladderlog_write_death_deathzone_help(Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_DEATH_FRAG: Write to ladderlog: (9 more messages)
00:52 <smoothice> #more
00:52 <@armabot> smoothice: DEATH_FRAG (Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_DEATH_RUBBERZONE: ladderlog_write_death_rubberzone_help(Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_DEATH_SHOT_FRAG: ladderlog_write_death_shot_frag_help(Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_DEATH_SHOT_SUICIDE: ladderlog_write_death_shot_suicide_help(Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_DEATH_SHOT_TEAMKILL: ladderlog_write_death_shot_teamkill_help(Default: 1 ) || (8 more messages)
00:52 <nsh22> im actually editing some of those on my server...
00:52 <nsh22> ladderlog_write_admin stuff
00:52 <smoothice> yeah
00:53 <smoothice> #cfg2 ladderlog_write_round
00:53 <@armabot> smoothice: LADDERLOG_WRITE_ROUND_COMMENCING: ladderlog_write_round_commencing_help(Default: 0 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_ROUND_SCORE: Write to ladderlog: ROUND_SCORE [](Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_ROUND_SCORE_TEAM: Write to ladderlog: ROUND_SCORE_TEAM (Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_ROUND_WINNER: Write to ladderlog: ROUND_WINNER (Default: 1 )
00:53 <nsh22> ladderlog_write_all 1
00:53 <nsh22> s:)
00:54 <smoothice> k
00:54 <smoothice> just as well
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01:01 <animuson> where are the access level names stored? like user_level 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 etc
01:04 <nsh22> setting_authentication
01:04 <nsh22> under config
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01:06 <animuson> thats just all the auth settings
01:07 <animuson> i want to change the names for the user levels
01:08 <nsh22> it should be there,
01:08 <smoothice> animuson: set all ur settings in settings_custon
01:09 <smoothice> settings_custom... don't bother with the rest of the files
01:09 <animuson> nvm i found it
01:09 <animuson> its in language/english_base_notranslate.txt
01:10 <smoothice> oh
01:10 <smoothice> I get what you’re saying
01:10 <nsh22> no
01:10 <smoothice> nevermind
01:10 <nsh22> http://rafb.net/p/Jthzl054.html
01:10 <nsh22> i think you just change those names
01:10 <smoothice> nope
01:10 <smoothice> they're in the language file
01:10 <nsh22> ...
01:10 <smoothice> that file
01:10 <smoothice> is just comments
01:11 <nsh22> damn
01:13 <nsh22> smooth, some ppl want some settings changed in df, can i do it?
01:13 <smoothice> what settings
01:14 <nsh22> rubber
01:14 <nsh22> they want it increased
01:14 <smoothice> 2009/03/06-00:13:26 CHAT purple neal change rubber to a littel more plz .can u ????
01:14 <smoothice> umm
01:14 <smoothice> there's plenty of rubber already...
01:14 <smoothice> more rubber is for noobs lol
01:14 <smoothice> I mean
01:14 <smoothice> go ahead and do whatever
01:14 <smoothice> but
01:14 <smoothice> once I restart it
01:14 <smoothice> It'll be back to NW df config
01:14 <nsh22> ok :P ty
01:19 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r903 Fixed grind and split a bit.... || [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r902 Taught them not to do a couple of stupid things....
01:28 <animuson> how can i echo a command to the console from the source code?
01:31 <smoothice> animuson: sn_ConsoleOut?
01:31 <smoothice> question mark accidental)
01:36 <nsh22> smoothice: forums not working?
01:36 <smoothice> ???
01:36 <nsh22> try to get on our forums
01:38 <animuson> how can i echo it as a command that needs to be run tho?
01:39 <cpayan> Seriously, what are you supposed to do when it seems like five desktops just isn't enough on your computer?
01:45 <cpayan> aren't*
01:45 <smoothice> animuson: In c++?
01:47 <animuson> whatever language arma uses
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01:52 <neal_arma> any1 care to kick nsh22 for me?
01:53 <animuson> is the default rgb for a deathzone 25 0 0?
01:54 <smoothice> 15 0 0
01:54 <smoothice> or in C++
01:54 <smoothice> 1.0f 0.0f 0.0f
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02:01 <ct|kyle> #m epsy I think you should add a client side colour string filter
02:01 <@armabot> ct|kyle: The operation succeeded.
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02:01 <neal_arma> wewt
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02:01 <ct|kyle> heh
02:02 <nsh22> my internet stopped working randomly so i had to restart comp
02:02 <ct|kyle> mine goes out about 1 time each day
02:02 <nsh22> ew
02:02 <ct|kyle> and it is wired
02:02 <nsh22> miunes about 1nce a month, if that
02:02 <nsh22> wired as well
02:03 <ct|kyle> but only for about 5-10 seconds
02:03 <smoothice> ct
02:03 <smoothice> ct|kyle: you have verizon dsl
02:03 <smoothice> ct|kyle: which is epic fail
02:03 <ct|kyle> smoothice: yes but really the only thing in the area
02:03 <smoothice> get FiOS?
02:04 <ct|kyle> it takes forever to get parents to switch
02:04 <smoothice> oh lol
02:04 <smoothice> what speed dls?
02:04 <smoothice> dsl
02:04 <ct|kyle> it took me 2-3 years just for them to switch to DSL from AOL
02:04 <ct|kyle> I get about 3.5 up and 1 down
02:05 <smoothice> I get 12 down and 768 up :D
02:05 <smoothice> I love fttn :P
02:05 <ct|kyle> heh
02:05 <smoothice> #g fttn
02:05 <@armabot> smoothice: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
02:05 <smoothice> #google fttn
02:05 <smoothice> @g fttn
02:05 <@armabot> smoothice: Search took 0.12 seconds: Fiber to the x - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FTTH>; FTTN Definition - PC Magazine: <http://www.pcmag.com/encyclopedia_term/0,2542,t=FTTN&i=43550,00.asp>; Light Reading - Broadband - AT&T: We're Sticking With FTTN - Telecom: <http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=107939>; Lightwave - FTTN : The 'other' fiber (3 more messages)
02:05 <teabot> smoothice: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FTTH - Fiber to the x - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
02:05 <ct|kyle> Fios to the neeiborhood
02:06 <smoothice> fiber
02:06 <smoothice> fiber to the neighboord
02:06 <smoothice> lol
02:06 <ct|kyle> actually we have it to the boxes next to ours just not from the ones next to our to ours
02:07 <smoothice> english please?
02:07 <smoothice> lol
02:07 <ct|kyle> they cut our line when the put it in
02:07 <smoothice> fail?
02:07 <ct|kyle> they put fios to the boxes on each side of ours
02:07 <nsh22> haha
02:07 <nsh22> sucks
02:07 <ct|kyle> but never ran it from those boxes to ours
02:07 <nsh22> EPIC FAIL
02:08 <smoothice> fail....
02:08 <smoothice> ll
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02:25 <smoothice> #m z-man the fortress AI bot dies after about 20 seconds on the grid in its zone :D
02:25 <@armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
02:26 <luke-jr> hm
02:26 <smoothice> ?
02:27 <smoothice> lol
02:27 <smoothice> hm = ?
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02:31 <luke-jr> grr, why is [eg]Floor not a netobject ☹
02:33 <nsh22> i dont knowq luke, why isnt it?
02:40  * nsh22 is so happy
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03:01 <ct|kyle> oi sinewav
03:02 <sinewav> hey man, what's up?
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03:06 <ct|kyle> not too much
03:07 <sinewav> yeah, me either. Workin' a lot, which is good.
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03:16 <smoothice> luke-jr, ct|kyle: FYI, the new Fortress AI is sooo freaking cool!
03:17 <luke-jr> good for you
03:17 <luke-jr> don't highlight me for no reason
03:17 <ct|kyle> ok luke-jr :P
03:17 <smoothice> luke-jr: just telling you it's cool!
03:18 <ct|kyle> smoothice: I still gotta try it, is it in 0.2.8 or 0.3.*
03:18 <smoothice> 0.3
03:18 <smoothice> I have a server up
03:18 <smoothice> wanna see?
03:18 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: everything is 0.3.*
03:18 <smoothice> hey
03:18 <smoothice> don't highlight for no reason
03:18 <ct|kyle> smoothice: how is the flag zone
03:18 <smoothice> ct|kyle: It won't do anything
03:19 <smoothice> and I cannot figure out why
03:19 <ct|kyle> probably because you need the last 2 lines of zfoirtress.h in zFlag.h (I think)
03:19 <smoothice> ok
03:19 <ct|kyle> zFortress.h*
03:24 <smoothice> ct|kyle: cool, eh?
03:24 <ct|kyle> except for the bug
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03:44 <luke-jr> smoothice: guess what I was workign on
03:49 <smoothice> luke-jr: zv2sty?
03:49 <luke-jr> no
03:49 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: is it what your brought up earlier
03:49 <luke-jr> ?
03:50 <smoothice> luke-jr: fort ai?
03:50 <luke-jr> no
03:50 <ct|kyle> the recognizers
03:50 <luke-jr> not quite
03:50 <luke-jr> I think that's over my head
03:50 <ct|kyle> the modoling stuff for them :P
03:51 <luke-jr> I think that's over my head
03:51 <ct|kyle> then wtf are you working on
03:51 <ct|kyle> rthe cube
03:51 <luke-jr> figure it out
03:51 <ct|kyle> 3d
03:51 <luke-jr> try again
03:52 <smoothice> tell us luke-jr
03:52 <luke-jr> figure it out :p
03:52 <ct|kyle> flying zones
03:52 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: that's been done for days
03:52 <ct|kyle> 3d zones
03:52 <luke-jr> …
03:53 <ct|kyle> ok just tell us
03:53 <smoothice> luke-jr: working on your attitude?
03:53 <smoothice> lol
03:53 <luke-jr> check LP
03:53 <smoothice> map-floor-texture?
03:53 <luke-jr> :p
03:53 <smoothice> why do we care?
03:54 <ct|kyle> could be cool to package a floor texture with a map
03:54 <luke-jr> like the new fort texture
03:54 <ct|kyle> or sinewav's ctf one
03:55 <ct|kyle> or the styball one
03:55 <ct|kyle> along with ram walls
03:56 <smoothice> ct|kyle: what did you say I needed from zFortress.h? REAL lastSync_?
03:56 <ct|kyle> I think so
03:56 <smoothice> ummm
03:56 <smoothice> why does that matter?
03:57 <ct|kyle> I was actually just taking a look at the code now LOL
03:57 <smoothice> I hope we can get this fixed...
03:58 <luke-jr> smoothice: remember, I expect something like sty to take a few rewrites before it works well
03:58 <luke-jr> so don't get discouraged!
03:58 <smoothice> ok
03:58 <smoothice> I'm just kinda feeling like a fail
03:58 <smoothice> since I cannot figure out why the zone doesn't respond
04:01 <luke-jr> smoothice: think of how I just started 2 or 3 goals that I'm stuck on ☺
04:01 <smoothice> lol
04:01 <smoothice> but
04:01 <smoothice> the thing is
04:01 <smoothice> if you just looked at my code for a brief moment
04:01 <smoothice> you'd probably figure it out
04:02 <ct|kyle> that is all I've done also
04:03 <ct|kyle> I really should start a sty zones v2 testing server
04:03 <smoothice> it doesn't even work yet
04:03 <smoothice> -.-
04:03 <smoothice> the frickin zone doesn't respond!
04:03 <ct|kyle> ya less work for me to do in the long run
04:04 <smoothice> luke-jr: can you glance at the code for a moment again? if it makes you feel superior I'm a dumbass
04:04 <luke-jr> lolwut
04:04 <luke-jr> busy
04:04 <smoothice> again? :(
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04:05 <luke-jr> yeh
04:05 <luke-jr> playing glob2
04:05 <smoothice> :'(
04:05 <smoothice> dude
04:05 <smoothice> you say you'd mentor me through this process
04:05 <smoothice> said*
04:05 <luke-jr> yeh
04:05 <luke-jr> not 24/7 tho
04:05 <ct|kyle> is onInside the new onentry
04:05 <luke-jr> no
04:05 <ct|kyle> er OnEnter?
04:05 <luke-jr> they are different funcs
04:06 <luke-jr> yeah
04:06 <luke-jr> OnEnter -> OnInside
04:06 <ct|kyle> ok
04:06 <smoothice> luke-jr: well when are you available?
04:06 <ct|kyle> I think I know problem number 1
04:06 <smoothice> :D!!!!
04:06 <ct|kyle> wait nm
04:06 <smoothice> :(!!!
04:06 <smoothice> :(
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04:10 <ct|kyle> wow, I think I've used too much python lately I wanted to put a # as a comment
04:10 <smoothice> any luck ct|kyle?
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04:24 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-map-floor-texture] r891 not quite working map floor texture support
04:46 <smoothice> luke-jr: http://rafb.net/p/27gsq964.html
04:47 <smoothice> luke-jr: that's on bootstrap.sh run
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05:02 <sinewav> anyone for CTF with fort physics?
05:04 <ct|kyle> sinewav: can you send me that config :)
05:05 <ct|kyle> it would be a nice test map/settings
05:07 <sinewav> which one? flag fort?
05:07 <ct|kyle> ya
05:08 <sinewav> lemme look fer it.
05:09 <ct|kyle> sinewav: nevermind
05:09 <sinewav> wha.
05:09 <ct|kyle> sinewav: I found e-mail from before
05:09 <sinewav> kk
05:10 <sinewav> Imma post it on the forums anyway. just in case I lose it.
05:10 <ct|kyle> want me to just send it back to you
05:13 <sinewav> too late!
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07:15 <cpayan> I must declare, Zombie-enabled sumo is pretty neat
07:15 <cpayan> I don't think control of the zombie would really gain anything
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07:41 <Lucifer> anybody know a food that starts with d?
07:41 <Lucifer> besides "dead meat"
07:42 <cpayan> duck
07:43 <mkzelda> dick
07:43 <cpayan> classy
07:43 <mkzelda> http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080109194130AAm6Myq
07:45 <Lucifer> duck!  Why didn't I think of that
07:45 <mkzelda> b/c you were busy thinking about dick? :D
07:45 <Lucifer> I put Dried beef
07:47 <Red_Pachel[home]> dumplings!
07:48 <Lucifer> I'm getting hungry reading that thread, I need to cook dinner soon
07:48  * Lucifer wonders what he's going to eat tonight, since he just went grocery shopping
07:49 <Red_Pachel[home]> i suppose that's better than wonder what to eat since you HAVENT been grocery shopping
07:51 <Lucifer> that's right, keep looking on the bright side
07:51 <Lucifer> I think I'll do a little stir-fry with chicken, jalapenos, and green chiles
07:51 <Lucifer> I just have to debone chicken for that :)
07:52  * Lucifer got thighs at 0.99/lb
07:52 <Lucifer> but it means I have to debone them every time I use them, because I cook and eat primarily chinese stir-fry
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15:30 <smoothice> ct|kyle: you didn't push the color fix yet?
15:30 <smoothice> ct|kyle: now you did as of two seconds ago :)
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15:53 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r875 Making colors work
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16:29 <z-man> Hahaha. Only server not available with 0.2.8.2.1: Global Players OLD SCHOOL SERVER.
16:29 <BabyBug>  z-man, is that fortress ai branch meant to work atm? =x
16:30 <z-man> Depends how you define 'work'.
16:30 <z-man> It compiles, and the bots don't suicide for a couple of seconds.
16:30 <guru3> i don't want to change
16:30 <z-man> I realized I need a better AI framework in general, so I'm building that.
16:31 <BabyBug> they suicide straight away here, heh =x
16:31 <guru3> i know where everything is on the forums
16:31 <guru3> i don't want to move things and delete things
16:31 <z-man> BabyBug: they do?
16:31 <BabyBug> who said about moving things?
16:31 <z-man> All those
16:31 <z-man> few words per line
16:31 <BabyBug> z-man, in a team of 8, about 3 suicide at the start
16:31 <z-man> community building
16:31 <z-man> tossers.
16:31 <BabyBug> and none of em grind :(
16:32 <z-man> Really? They should.
16:32 <z-man> Are you up to date?
16:32  * z-man wonders whether he pushed last night's work
16:32 <dlh> z-man: http://rafb.net/p/cn8NBr47.html ← won't that just make the bot turn right into itself?
16:32 <BabyBug> well, position 2 and 3 turn around and grind backwards =x
16:32 <BabyBug> yup i'm up to date
16:32 <z-man> ah, then I forgot to push something up. I fixed that.
16:32 <guru3> i'd be willing to update to phpbb3
16:33 <z-man> dlh: yes ;) but the next AI step will correct it.
16:33 <z-man> (but I'm going to remove it anyway.)
16:33 <guru3> and the background colors do NOT change
16:33 <guru3> i GUARENTEE it
16:33 <BabyBug> guru3, talk sense! =P
16:33 <guru3> first, there are no background colors
16:34 <guru3> " On each page, the colors change, the fonts change, the backgrounds chang"
16:34 <guru3> maybe on each site
16:34 <guru3> each page across each site is identical though
16:35 <guru3> and this may be biased, but there'll be links to facebook and twitter over my dead body
16:35 <z-man> \o/
16:36 <z-man> We should totally get a myspace profile.
16:36 <guru3> no myspace either
16:36 <guru3> a friend of mine mentioned an opensource twitter like app
16:36 <guru3> i might be convinced to set something up with that
16:36 <guru3> same with jabber
16:37 <z-man> For such a youg guy, you're incredibly old and grumpy :)
16:37 <guru3> i don't approve of social networking sites
16:37 <guru3> RAWR
16:38 <z-man> (but yeah, I'd rather be without facestalk and twitter and blogs, while we're at it.)
16:38 <guru3> motion carried then
16:38 <guru3> (except for the blog bit)
16:38 <guru3> (that may actually be a good idea)
16:38 <z-man> It depends. I'm kind of reading all of the forums as blogs, partly.
16:39  * z-man heavily uses the 'view unread posts' page.
16:39 <guru3> i only use that -_-
16:39 <guru3> that's why it's at the top
16:39 <z-man> But that feature requires you to have an account.
16:39 <guru3> right above logout
16:39 <guru3> there are a lot of accounts that have 0 posts and don't appear to be spammers
16:40 <z-man> Yeah, I do that on other forums at times, too: get an account just so I can use the 'what's new' search.
16:40 <z-man> phpbb can publish RSS feeds of subforums, I think.
16:40 <guru3> i don't think our phpbb can
16:41 <guru3> really should upgrade to phpbb3
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16:48 <BabyBug> Why haven't you?
16:48 <guru3> template :/
16:49 <BabyBug> phpbb3 looks nice at it is :@ =x
16:49 <guru3> me wants armagetron theme
16:50 <BabyBug> an arma banner isn't enough? =P
16:50 <guru3> it was back in the day
16:50 <guru3> i could bring it back
16:50 <guru3> but it does look a bit shit
16:50 <guru3> let me find it
16:51 <BabyBug> =)
16:51 <guru3> if i can -_-
16:51 <BabyBug> =.=
16:51 <guru3> where would it have gotten to i wonder...
16:53 <guru3> actually
16:53 <BabyBug> men suck at organizing...
16:53 <guru3> this looks even worse than i remember
16:54 <BabyBug> link?
16:54 <guru3> http://guru3.net/temp/aflogo3.gif
16:55 <BabyBug> wtf? lol
16:55 <guru3> that whent in place of the phpbb logo
16:55 <guru3> made with redhat 9
16:55 <guru3> back when i was still really learning linux
16:55 <guru3> and before armagetron advanced
16:55 <BabyBug> Defiantly seen better... =x But why don't you see make a phpbb3 template then?
16:56 <guru3> i don't think z-man even ever saw that
16:56 <guru3> i don't know how
16:56 <BabyBug> oh..
16:56 <guru3> i didn't make the template we use
16:56 <guru3> i prettu much suck i pretty much suck at design, if you didn't notice already ;)
16:56 <guru3> *pretty
16:56 <guru3> we're pretty unique as a community
16:57 <BabyBug> who did the template you use now? =)
16:57 <guru3> says at the bottom
16:57 <guru3> lackadaisical
16:57 <BabyBug> oo
16:57 <BabyBug> poke him to make a new one ^^
16:57 <guru3> need to make sure it's possible to upgrade to phpbb3 first
16:58 <BabyBug> why wouldn't it be?
16:58 <guru3> we do have phpbb2 mods installed
16:58 <guru3> attachment mod, category/heirarchy mod, flag mod
16:58 <BabyBug> and that stupid post count mod..
16:58 <BabyBug> get rid of that if you upgrade! :@
16:58 <BabyBug> what's wrong with normal numbers?
16:58 <guru3> that doesn't really count as a mod
16:59 <guru3> i just hacked that in
16:59 <BabyBug> It's still a modification to the original :P
16:59 <BabyBug> a very horrible modification at that
16:59 <guru3> i like it
16:59 <guru3> we're really very flexible
16:59 <guru3> (the armagetron community)
16:59 <BabyBug> not everyone's a nerd! =P
17:00 <guru3> we don't have any tyrannic people
17:00 <BabyBug> tyrannic?
17:00 <guru3> i don't ban people for no reason
17:00 <guru3> that sort of thing
17:00 <guru3> and we have a wide diversity of people
17:00 <BabyBug> you have no fun =(
17:00 <guru3> and a high % of normal people
17:00 <guru3> which means that no one thinks like a small opensource group on our forums
17:01 <guru3> everyone thinks internet 2.0
17:03 <BabyBug> I can't see how mods would stop you upgrading though...
17:03 <guru3> the modify the database
17:03 <guru3> *they
17:03 <guru3> which means it's no longer looking like what the upgrade script expects
17:04 <BabyBug> they only add to the database though don't they? so wouldn't the upgrade thingy just ignore then? or not that simple? if it's not, it should be!
17:04 <guru3> it's not
17:04 <guru3> just isn't
17:04 <guru3> tough shit
17:04 <guru3> i feel depressed now
17:04 <guru3> intellectually kamp makes good points
17:04 <guru3> never gonna happen :/
17:05 <BabyBug> lol O.o?
17:05 <guru3> people aren't thinking small garage community
17:05 <guru3> people are thinking corporation
17:06 <guru3> internet 2.0 sites with themes across different software solutions with high visibility options and all that jazz are great
17:06 <guru3> if you're fortune 500
17:07 <z-man> #m smoothice it's frigging work in progress :)
17:07 <@armabot> z-man: The operation succeeded.
17:07 <BabyBug> random? :|
17:08 <z-man> #m ct|kyle is the sty branch up to date? I thought I fixed that bug on Trunk a while ago.
17:08 <@armabot> z-man: The operation succeeded.
17:08 <z-man> no, reacting do days old #ms.
17:08 <BabyBug> oh...
17:08 <guru3> anyone know what happend to armagetron.de?
17:09 <epsy> z-man, I don't think phpbb does that
17:09 <dlh> armagetronad.de ?
17:09 <guru3> ah
17:10 <guru3> didn't know they changed
17:11 <guru3> z-man: do you feel it's really necessary to promote armagetron to everyone on earth?
17:11 <epsy> yeah, no single RSS feed
17:11 <epsy> not on main page, not on a forum, not in a thread
17:11 <z-man> guru3: nope.
17:11 <guru3> that's my feeling
17:11 <epsy> and phpbb is a bitch to style
17:11 <BabyBug> you should promote it!
17:11 <BabyBug> promoting = win win
17:11 <guru3> that's the average consumer point of view
17:11 <z-man> No, not for our development model
17:12 <epsy> promoting when not ready = HUDE FAIL
17:12 <z-man> which is 'do work as you have time'
17:12 <epsy> and when I say HUDE I mean HUGZ
17:12 <z-man> we NEED a steady influx of new players.
17:12 <epsy> and when I say HUGZ I mean HUGE
17:12 <epsy> and maybe i'll stop with the typos now
17:13 <epsy> ct|kyle, there are
17:13 <epsy> ct|kyle, but they can't work
17:13 <epsy> [properly]
17:13 <guru3> how much of an influx?
17:13 <guru3> x players per week?
17:13 <BabyBug> and why steady?
17:14 <BabyBug> and couldn't more players mean more developers? =)...So alot would be good? ^^
17:14 <guru3> we average about 1 new forum user a day
17:14 <guru3> BabyBug: armagetron players are normal people
17:15 <epsy> BabyBug, well, it's not up to us to make them shine all over the world when we don't even know about them
17:15 <BabyBug> have you played armagetron lately? :P
17:15 <BabyBug> they're anything but normal :P
17:15 <epsy> we've seen that BabyBug
17:15 <epsy> :D
17:16 <epsy> did anyone implement the color codes documented in that protobuf thread?
17:18 <BabyBug> epsy, not your concern...eevents is! :@
17:19 <epsy> wouldn't it be more logical to have \c{colouraa}{textincolor} ?
17:27 <guru3> maybe i should reactivate subsilver
17:27 <guru3> just to make people appreciate the current design
17:32 <BabyBug> maybe you should
17:32 <BabyBug> and then when you upgrade to phpbb3 from that, it'll look so much nicer 8-)
17:33 <guru3> than the current design?
17:34 <BabyBug> well imo, yes. But if you have subsilver as normal....It'll look even nicer again!
17:34 <epsy> phpbb sucks, get over it >.>
17:34 <epsy> are we gonna stay with prosilver for 5 years if we upgrade?
17:35 <BabyBug> i vote yes!
17:35 <BabyBug> and it's "when" not "if"
17:35 <epsy> phpbb2 -> phpbb3 is not worth the themeing work that's required for phpbb
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17:46 <epsy> Novocaine, Boo:
17:56 <BabyBug> oooooooooooooo
17:58 <guru3> firefox is using 110% cpu
17:58 <guru3> goddamn flash
18:16 <epsy> goddamn flash indeed
18:16 <epsy> makes firefox suck had
18:16 <epsy> hard *
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19:05 <akira_arma> #tea
19:05 <@armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
19:06 <akira_arma> :(
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19:08 <arrow> hi
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20:08 <ivantis2> #ping
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20:08 <@armabot> pong
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20:24 <akira_arma> #tea
20:24 <@armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
20:24 <akira_arma> !"§$ you bot
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20:46 <Lizmatic> BYE
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21:06  * Lucifer considers giving an arma theme in phpbb3 a try
21:06  * Lucifer thinks he can design web pages, just can't do fancy graphics
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21:12  * BabyBug agrees!
21:23 <ct|kyle> z-man: I updarted my client and that took care of the problem
21:23 <z-man> goody
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21:25 <ct|kyle> epsy: make them work :)
21:27 <epsy> I'll suppose them means ct|kyle
21:27 <epsy> ct|kyle: WORK NOW!
21:28 <epsy> Lucifer, don't forget to give up and screw phpbb forever :)
21:29 <epsy> #last --from epsy --with ct|kyle --nolimit
21:29 <@armabot> epsy: [21:27:25] <epsy> ct|kyle: WORK NOW!, [21:27:14] <epsy> I'll suppose them means ct|kyle, [17:13:08] <epsy> ct|kyle, but they can't work, and [17:13:03] <epsy> ct|kyle, there are
21:29 <epsy> ct|kyle, needs the client to know stuff is chat, and what part is the actual char
21:29 <epsy> chat *
21:29 <epsy> that means eEvent
21:29 <BabyBug> \o/
21:30  * ct|kyle stabs BabyBug
21:32 <BabyBug> ...
21:32 <BabyBug> I've been nice ALL day....and then you have to go stab me
21:32 <BabyBug> THAT'S NOT NICE!!
21:32 <epsy> you just failed BabyBug
21:33 <BabyBug> epsy, go fuck a duck
21:33 <epsy> quaaaaaack
21:33 <BabyBug> z-man is the only nice person in this place!!
21:33 <z-man> Only because I'm too lazy to be mean.
21:33  * BabyBug face palms
21:33 <epsy> we love you BabyBug :D
21:34 <BabyBug> ^^
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21:35 <epsy> baaah, automake time
21:35  * epsy scratches head
21:35 <BabyBug> change to scons!
21:35 <epsy> I'm considering something like that
21:36 <BabyBug> and why doesn't anyone make .deb files here?
21:36 <epsy> because that would mean so much work getting inside the inners of automake
21:36 <epsy> and it wouldn't work on anything else than linux & bsd
21:37 <epsy> BabyBug, because it's boring to do
21:37 <BabyBug> why is it?
21:37 <epsy> well, try making a deb package yourself
21:37 <BabyBug> i have!
21:37 <epsy> from scratch
21:37 <BabyBug> define from scratch
21:38 <epsy> ie. you just downloaded software X and you want to make a .deb package out of it
21:38 <BabyBug> you mean...starting with dh_make?
21:38 <BabyBug> yeh
21:38 <BabyBug> easy!
21:38 <BabyBug> well not easy
21:38 <BabyBug> but not boring!
21:38 <epsy> umm..ok?
21:39 <epsy> z-man, basically, our Makefiles just build what's listed in src/Makefile.am&co, then link it into packages, then link it into a binary?
21:39 <epsy> or is there more?
21:40 <z-man> there's all kind of crap.
21:40 <z-man> make the changelog
21:40 <z-man> sort the resources
21:40 <z-man> run the program to build the command list
21:41 <z-man> But for the build of the executable, I guess you have the bits.
21:41 <epsy> ok, I'll try to start with this then
21:41 <BabyBug> Who first started arma? =)
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21:41 <epsy> Mr. Z-Man itself
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21:42 <BabyBug> itself? lol
21:42 <epsy> I seem to like that word
21:42 <BabyBug> how rude! :P
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22:07 <epsy> ok, I got it to write empty makefiles! :)
22:08 <BabyBug> yay? =)
22:13  * BabyBug wonders if the AI's will be able to torpedo in fortress...
22:14 <akira_arma> #tea
22:14 <@armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (9/32): CT_emmy, ct|Puuquie, rope, Saint George, silverdoor, sithy (Sithy@forums), ]i[ 2020, ¦×¦ PlayerNuby, °höMö
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22:38 <BabyBug> #servers
22:38 <@armabot> BabyBug: This data is 13 seconds old; - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (15/16), |FA| Black Ice! (9/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (9/10), Fortress Café (9/32), Afrothunder's High Rubber (8/10), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (8/12), {Delicious Desserts} Racing II (7/14), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (7/12), |FA| Black Tar! (6/16), SPACEZONE I [HIGH SPEED!!] (6/8), (2 more messages)
22:41 <z-man> Is there a word yet for the left-right-right-right combination that lets you reverse in tight spots when you're close to the wrong wall?
22:41 <epsy> just camping space?
22:42 <epsy> I don't have a word for that specific move, however
22:42 <epsy> oh
22:42 <epsy> inverted double back, perhaps
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22:43 <BabyBug> 360 rolls off the tongue easier 8-)
22:43 <epsy> hmm now I wonder how I am going to generate stuff that was generated by configure
22:46 <Concord> #si cafe
22:47 <@armabot> Concord: Fortress Café: Players (11/32): -»|a, 135347325z43t, 2020, AFK-47 (Sithy@forums), akira, ct|Puuquie, free kill (dlh@generalconsumption.org), Jasper (Van-hayes@forums), PlayerNuby (PlayerNub@x/member), rope, si][ty
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22:57 <BabyBug> Is it by design? or by bug....That if you host a lan game from the client....commands like /me doesn't work?
22:57 <BabyBug> it just prints "/me"
22:57 <epsy> on 0.2.8 ?
22:57 <BabyBug> trunk
22:58 <epsy> bug, I'd say
22:58 <BabyBug> okies =)
23:00 <PinkTomato> I thought it was a keyboard thing
23:02 <PinkTomato> Hmm, oh that was the default console key did not work on this PC I was using. I think it affects 0.2.8.2 as well.
23:03 <PinkTomato> affects the beta for me at least
23:03 <BabyBug> oopsie, reported the bug on the wrong account >.<
23:04 <epsy> Richie?
23:04 <epsy> welshdragon! :D
23:04 <BabyBug> ex-fiance as of a couple of days ago =x
23:05 <PinkTomato> aww :(
23:06 <epsy> Well, I know I'm living in antartica, but .. is he right in front of a Castle?
23:06 <epsy> and of a motorway, as well :S
23:07 <BabyBug> lol what?
23:07 <epsy> https://launchpad.net/~welshdragon
23:08 <PinkTomato> epsy: motorways are blue in the UK :)
23:08 <BabyBug> lol
23:08 <PinkTomato> and wales has hardly any, which I have not noticed before
23:08 <epsy> well, cute village O_o
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23:09 <BabyBug> Hrmm, that's a town, the wrong town at that =P
23:09 <PinkTomato> That's a town o_O?
23:09 <PinkTomato> What do you call a village?
23:10 <BabyBug> *zooms in more*
23:10 <BabyBug> Oh wait no that's a village ^^
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23:10 <BabyBug> still the wrong village though xD
23:11 <BabyBug> epsy, you talk to him?
23:12 <epsy> who?
23:12 <BabyBug> You said "welshdragon!" as if you knew him =)
23:12 <epsy> just a kinky nickname heh
23:12 <BabyBug> :|
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23:14 <BabyBug> you know, someone could be nice and confirm the bug =)
23:14 <PinkTomato> I did ^_^
23:14 <PinkTomato> ish
23:14 <epsy> can't check right now
23:14 <BabyBug> i meant on lp silly =P
23:15 <ivantis2> hahaha
23:15 <ivantis2> i havent read that one in a while
23:15 <ivantis2> http://xkcd.com/364/
23:15 <epsy> can't QA do confirm bugs already?
23:15 <BabyBug> anyone can do confirm bugs!
23:15 <BabyBug> can't triage though =x
23:15 <PinkTomato> then BabyBug can confirm bugs
23:15 <PinkTomato> as BabyBug is part of everyone ^_^
23:15 <BabyBug> it feels naughty confirming ones own bug
23:15 <epsy> except if the bugs are too arrogant
23:16 <epsy> "No you're only a BABY bug, go away now"
23:16 <ivantis2> man, this feels like old times in irc
23:16 <BabyBug> but i'm sexy =(
23:17 <BabyBug> i don't wanna go away!
23:17 <ivantis2> you people may not realize it, but...
23:17 <ivantis2> oh man i forgot what i was going to say as  i typed that
23:19 <BabyBug> can i just kick him? (A)
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23:20 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: Do I just comment confirmed? Or do you need a project admin?
23:20 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, under status
23:20 <epsy> BabyBug, no MSN smileys here please
23:20 <BabyBug> Where it says New
23:20 <BabyBug> Click that
23:20 <BabyBug> Then change the drop down box to confirmed
23:20 <epsy> O:-) just does way better
23:20 <BabyBug> epsy...
23:20 <ivantis2> oh right
23:20 <BabyBug> SHH!!
23:21 <ivantis2> this channel wouldnt be the same
23:21 <ivantis2> if it werent for everyone here
23:21 <epsy> MSN smileys ftl! :s
23:21 <ivantis2> the size is right, like 30 to 50 people
23:21 <ivantis2> the environment
23:21 <ivantis2> the off-topicness
23:21 <ivantis2> the geek-tasticness
23:21 <BabyBug> #
23:21 <BabyBug> oops =x
23:22 <ivantis2> the people
23:22 <PinkTomato> oops, forgot to say beta and no comment delete or edit
23:22 <BabyBug> epsy, msn smileys are not ftl =( They look so cute!
23:22 <PinkTomato> but anyway, it's changed :)
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23:22 <nsh22> hey hey hey
23:22 <epsy> BabyBug, their text representation sucks
23:22 <BabyBug> epsy, your text representation sucks
23:22 <ivantis2> no geek-tasticness wasnt the right word
23:22 <ivantis2> nerdiness! thats it
23:23 <nsh22> whats better, geek or nerd
23:23 <epsy> who understands (A) ?
23:23 <epsy> who understands O:-) ?
23:23 <ivantis2> ...that has nothing to do with it
23:23 <nsh22> its an angel
23:23 <BabyBug> epsy, you obviously understood (A)
23:23 <BabyBug> A for ANGELLLL
23:23 <ivantis2> wtf is this (A)?
23:23 <epsy> BabyBug, because I didn't understand it so many times
23:23 <PinkTomato> I thought (A) was accept, sorry BabyBug!
23:24 <ivantis2> oh angel
23:24  * BabyBug face palms the desk
23:24 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, you let me down ='(
23:24 <BabyBug> My Lisa would know it's an angel! :@
23:24 <ivantis2> wheres kyle?
23:25 <ivantis2> this seems like an epsy, nsh22, ct|kyle, BabyBug, ivantis[2], PinkTomato conversation
23:25 <nsh22> :P isnt it always :P
23:25 <ivantis2> :?
23:25 <nsh22> here comes the metal meltdown! right before your eyes
23:25 <nsh22> !!!!
23:25 <PinkTomato> ivantis2: why aren't you ivantis?
23:25 <ivantis2> did that pi show up?
23:25 <ivantis2> no idea
23:25 <ivantis2> oh on this client ivantis2 is default
23:26 <ivantis2> why do i no longer run xchat on my other computer?
23:26 <ivantis2> i havent been to the basement where it is for ages...
23:26 <ivantis2> vnc and ssh sustain to do everything on it
23:26 <ivantis2> er, suffice is a better word for that
23:26 <BabyBug> ivantis2, ever thought of doing something besides babble?
23:27 <ivantis2> no
23:27 <BabyBug> come back when you have!
23:27 -!- ivantis2 is now known as ivantis
23:27 <ivantis> thats dumb
23:27 <ivantis> to nick change you need to set -e
23:28 <ivantis> well it kind of makes sense, because it would look like you were using a registered nick if you changed to an unregistered one
23:28 <@armabot> lpbugs: [338969] /commands do not work when hosting a lan game <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/338969>
23:28 <ivantis> i wonder what kind of socks i should wear today
23:28 <BabyBug> FIX NOW!
23:28 <epsy> ...
23:28 <ivantis> #fix bug->latest
23:29 <ivantis> that is a duh!
23:29 <BabyBug> #kick ivantis you're a duh.....brain!
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23:29 <ivantis> /commands never work when hosting with a client
23:29 <nsh22> lol
23:30 <PinkTomato> ivantis: hence bug repoty :)
23:30 <ivantis> its not a bug
23:30 <luke-jr> it is a bug
23:30 <BabyBug> of course it's a bug
23:30 <ivantis> just the code for commands is not in client
23:30 <BabyBug> so it's a bug...
23:30 <PinkTomato> ivantis: it is in the client
23:30 <PinkTomato> isn't it?
23:31 <luke-jr> ivantis: then that is the *reason* for the bug
23:31 <luke-jr> at least /me should work
23:31 <ivantis> no
23:31 <ivantis> i recall none of those working
23:31 <ivantis> /commands only work on dedicated
23:32 <BabyBug> ivantis, actually, if another client connects to the LAN game, /commands work fine
23:32 <BabyBug> It's only the client hosting, that the /commands don't work for
23:32 <luke-jr> ivantis: that's called a BUG
23:33 <ivantis> really? i never knode that
23:33 <nsh22> thats cuz ur dumb, lol jk
23:34 <ivantis> whatever. im no expert, i havent read all of the code or tried every little thing
23:34 <epsy> http://www.codesimplicity.com/archives/35
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23:34 <epsy> now stop wasting our time explaining you what a bug is
23:34 <BabyBug> yay he left!
23:34 <epsy> thanks
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23:34 <nsh22> damn
23:34 <BabyBug> ...
23:34 <epsy> [00:34] <epsy>: http://www.codesimplicity.com/archives/35
23:34 <epsy> [00:34] <epsy>: now stop wasting our time explaining you what a bug is
23:34 <ivantis2> damm this irc client
23:35 <nsh22> see, even it hates you :P
23:35 <ivantis2> now i will leave
23:35 <ivantis2> my sister wants to play some online game on this computer
23:35 <BabyBug> we don't care! just fuck off!
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23:35 <BabyBug> ty!
23:36 <nsh22> lol
23:36 <nsh22> wanna quote that?
23:36 <BabyBug> no
23:36 <nsh22> #quote add
23:36 <@armabot> nsh22: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
23:36 <epsy> quote what?
23:36  * BabyBug is grouchy cause she lacks sleep
23:36 <epsy>  /mode BabyBug +a
23:37 <nsh22> epsy: <BabyBug> we don't care! just fuck off!
23:37 <BabyBug> what does that do?
23:37 <nsh22> im gonna quote trhat :P
23:37 <epsy> I don't know
23:37 <BabyBug> Unknown Mode Flag
23:37 <BabyBug> :P
23:37 <epsy> probably nothing
23:37 <epsy> but it means me setting you on /away
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23:37 <nsh22> #quote add
23:37 <@armabot> nsh22: (quote add [<channel>] <text>) -- Adds <text> to the $type database for <channel>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
23:37 <BabyBug> i guess i shouldn't type things in when i don't know what they do =)
23:38 <epsy> yeah, especially on irc
23:38 <nsh22> BabyBug: can i plz quote that?
23:38 <BabyBug> No.
23:38 <BabyBug> It's copyright me!
23:38 <nsh22> :(
23:38 <epsy> or on any network that tracks clonebots through traps
23:38 <nsh22> ???
23:38 <BabyBug> ok now you lost me
23:38 <nsh22> ditto
23:39 <BabyBug> pokemon! =D
23:39 <nsh22> ...
23:39 <BabyBug> wrtlprnft and ditto should become poke-lovers
23:39 <PinkTomato> how do you check someone is /away?
23:39 <nsh22> go to #anime for pokemon (it seems appropriate :P)
23:39 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, /whois name name
23:39 <BabyBug> you need the name twice i think
23:39 <epsy> PinkTomato, /whois name, even
23:39 <PinkTomato> nsh22: they won't like that.
23:39 <nsh22> or if you ise xchat their names are grey
23:39 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: epsy thanks :)
23:40 <nsh22> PinkTomato: :D
23:40 <epsy> nsh22, we don't want pokemon shit
23:40 <nsh22> ima start a yandere there
23:40 <nsh22> on anime?
23:40 <epsy> then start a yandere there and shut up
23:40  * nsh22 shuts up
23:40 <BabyBug> \o/
23:40 <epsy> this is a fucking lightcycle game, not a play-with-irc-bots game
23:41 <epsy> neither an anime portal
23:41 <BabyBug> z-man, how good are you planning(hoping) to make the AI for fortress?
23:41 <z-man> nooby noob level.
23:42 <BabyBug> capable of attacking?
23:42 <PinkTomato> isn't there a point where you could make it pretty hard?
23:42 <epsy> to be honest, I would just let someone else do it with modules
23:42 <PinkTomato> like the defense, could be done really precise so it would be impossible?
23:42 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, holing =)
23:43 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: AI suggests 1 player game :)
23:43 <BabyBug> well you could have AI on your team aswell
23:43 <BabyBug> To even them out
23:43 <PinkTomato> ah
23:43 <PinkTomato> of course :)
23:43 <PinkTomato> only the AI has to be smart enough to use a hole
23:43 <BabyBug> or...a dedi server, set up just for ai fortress aswell
23:44 <BabyBug> so anyone can join, and face the ai
23:44 <BabyBug> Of course, if it's only nooby noob level, that'd get boring quick
23:44 <epsy> or AIs vs AIs
23:45 <BabyBug> Hrmm...If the AI has a goal of getting inside a zone, wouldn't it naturally use a hole?
23:45 <BabyBug> Surely you wouldn't need to specifically say, go through a hole would you?
23:45 <epsy> they don't die so easily
23:46 <Lucifer> well, another interview on Friday
23:46 <BabyBug> \o/
23:46 <Lucifer> political group that's trying to save the environment :)
23:46 <nsh22> wewt
23:46 <nsh22> lol
23:46 <nsh22> what would you be doing with them
23:46 <Lucifer> beats me, but the girl I talked to sounded very interesting, so if I don't get the job, maybe I'll get a date
23:47 <epsy> haha
23:47 <BabyBug> be careful lucifer...Someone who's part of a political group here, just got green custard thrown in their face today
23:47 <nsh22> lol or if you get the job yoou may still have a date :P
23:47 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: A political group that stands for seats?
23:47 <Lucifer> she asked why I was interested in the job, and I told her I was a programmer that got taken out by the recession, and an avid bicyclist that wants to save the environment
23:48 <Lucifer> so I could kill two birds with one stone
23:48 <BabyBug> oooo i completely forgot amongst everything...Where you at with that php app luci?
23:49 <Lucifer> stalled, I went a direction I didn't like and have been focusing on job-hunting again
23:49 <BabyBug> oo =x
23:49 <PinkTomato> is that tourney.dave etc.?
23:49 <Lucifer> I'm considering taking my juggling balls down to the arboretum on Monday and seeing what kind of tips I could make
23:49 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, newp, something else
23:49 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: no, different app
23:49 <nsh22> you juggle?
23:49 <Lucifer> money management app
23:49 <Lucifer> nsh22: yes
23:49 <PinkTomato> oh right :)
23:49 <Lucifer> not very well, but yeah :)
23:49 <nsh22> how many at one time?
23:49 <BabyBug> video or it's not true luci :D
23:50 <Lucifer> 3 so far, because that's all I've got
23:50 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: is tourney. etc going to happen :)?
23:50 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: unlikely, I was working on that to learn my way around a toolkit for which I was about to be hired to work with, and didn't get the job
23:51 <PinkTomato> Oh right :(
23:51 <epsy> PinkTomato, you know I'd love to do it as well, but I want other things to be done first
23:51 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, weren't you doing that? :|
23:52 <nsh22> my site is being a retard and not loading...
23:52 <epsy> reatard website!
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23:53 <nsh22> yes
23:53 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: I was, I think I'll start it up again and do it properly hopefully :)
23:53 <BabyBug> a reatard? is that like a leotard?
23:53 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, bzr branch? make it easier for other people to chip in =)
23:53 <epsy> doing it properly implis, IMO, doing what I planned on doing before
23:53 <nsh22> no, thats a retards way of saying retard :P
23:53 <epsy> implies *
23:54 <BabyBug> epsy, what did you plan on doing before?
23:55 <epsy> modules is the main dep for this IMO
23:56 <epsy> but well, the team/player management part can still be done without that
23:56 <epsy> as optional comes my wonderful carpets, but let's lay that on later
23:58 <BabyBug> yay another commit \o/

Log from 2009-03-07:
--- Day changed Sat Mar 07 2009
00:06 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: like this? https://launchpad.net/armagetronad-match
00:07 <BabyBug> ooo already done it ^^
00:08 <PinkTomato> as of 3 minutes of ago :)
00:12 <BabyBug> May as well of just created the team for it though. And then registered the branch under the armagetronad project. Rather than creating a new project.
00:12 <BabyBug> But both ways work =)
00:14 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: I didn't know if that would be rude or not :). Additionally, that list of projects on armagetronad is already too long :).
00:15 <BabyBug> and.....now you a shorter url to fetch from (lp:armagetronad-match) ^^ ... that's lazy i know =x
00:15 <PinkTomato> Oh yeah :D. Sweet :), Only I need to make some changes now to be able to use it.
00:19 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r905 Better base framework for AIs:... || [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r904 AIIdle -> AINavigator rename....
00:19 <BabyBug> Hey z-man...They grind! :D
00:19 <BabyBug> =x
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00:56 <animuson> how can i create a custom setting that is a boolean (0 or 1) and how do i check if its true?
01:03 <z-man> In the code? Doesn't tConfigItem< bool > work?
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01:03 <nsh22> hey durka
01:04 <animuson> nah its nSettingItem<bool>
01:04 <animuson> :P
01:04 <Durka> hey nsh22
01:04 <animuson> t*
01:04 <animuson> how come some of them use t and some use n?
01:04 <animuson> :-/
01:05 <luke-jr> network-enabled
01:05 <Durka> hey animuson
01:05 <Durka> quick question
01:05 <Durka> Are you the real "Player 1"?
01:05 <animuson> yea?
01:05 <animuson> >_>
01:05 <luke-jr> z-man: any idea why my floor texture branch doesn't work? :<
01:06 <Durka> scnr
01:11 <z-man> luke-jr: no.
01:11 <animuson> im out of ideas to include :-/
01:11 <animuson> lol
01:12 <luke-jr> :<
01:12 <animuson> i added KILL_ALL, SILENCE_ALL, [UNSILENCE|VOICE]_ALL, and SHOW_ADMIN_COMMANDS
01:12 <animuson> :P
01:13 <animuson> is it possible to collapse all the zones at once?
01:13 <animuson> i know COLLAPSE_ALL does it well but only for unnamed zones
01:13 <animuson> :-/
01:14 <animuson> i mean COLLAPSE_ZONE (with nothing after it)
01:30 <PinkTomato> animuson: that is a CT function?
01:30 <luke-jr> animuson: added to what?
01:36 <animuson> collapse_zone? yea
01:38 <luke-jr> …
01:38 <luke-jr> animuson: added to what?
01:38 <animuson> arma?
01:38 <animuson> :-/
01:39 <luke-jr> 0.3 I hope
01:39 <animuson> nah i havent gotten around to upgrading to 0.3 yet :P
01:40 <luke-jr> 0.2.8 is supposed to be dead
01:40 <animuson> :P
01:40 <animuson> well i dont feel like modifying the racing timer to work with 0.3 right now XD
01:41 <luke-jr> bad animuson
01:41 <luke-jr> you should have made it for 0.3 originally -.-
01:41 <animuson> i didnt make it
01:41 <animuson> hoop did :P
01:41 <animuson> like over a year ago
01:41 <luke-jr> same diff
01:41 <luke-jr> development has been 0.3 for at least 2 yrs
01:43 <animuson> rnt u still on 0.2.8.3_beta2?
01:43 <animuson> or is the website just extremely out-of-date
01:43 <luke-jr> animuson: Any new 0.2.8.x will be bug fixes only
01:43 <luke-jr> all new features will be in 0.3+
01:43 <nsh22> 0.3 is developed at same time as 0.2
01:43 <luke-jr> not quite
01:43 <luke-jr> 0.3 is the only being-developed
01:44 <luke-jr> 0.2.8 is being *maintained* and *supported*
01:44 <animuson> lol
01:44 <animuson> does 0.3 work yet?
01:44 <luke-jr> so if someone finds a security leak in 0.2.8, that will get fixed
01:44 <luke-jr> animuson: of course
01:44 <luke-jr> for certain values of "works"
01:44 <luke-jr> nsh22: Fail
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01:44 <animuson> is there a sty+ct version for it? or was that stuff just included?
01:44 <luke-jr> aw
01:45 <PinkTomato> animuson: it has not been a year yet :)
01:45 <animuson> shh tomato >_>
01:45 <PinkTomato> I'm on the 7th/8th month
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01:46 <animuson> really? thats it?
01:46 <animuson> seems like its been longer :P
01:47 <PinkTomato> hmm, maybe it has been
01:47 <smoothice> hi yall
01:47 <PinkTomato> argh PHP templating information is too numerous.
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01:48 <smoothice> z-man: Lol I know it's a WIP... but when I was shocked about how amazing that it could beat me at fortress.. I expected newer revisions to work just as well :)
01:51 <animuson> whats the branch url for 0.3?
01:51 <PinkTomato> bzr
01:51 <PinkTomato> #bzr
01:51 <@armabot> bzr co lp:armagetronad (for trunk) bzr co lp:armagetronad/0.2.8 (for 0.2.8) bzr branch lp:~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.3.1 (bzr >= 1.4)
01:52 <smoothice> bzr co for svn-like behavior
01:52 <smoothice> bzr branch for bzr-like behavior
01:54 <animuson> why is there no 0.3-sty+ct? :|
01:55 <PinkTomato> animuson: because sty was incompatible 0.3
01:56 <smoothice> PinkTomato: _was_
01:56 <smoothice> luke-jr: are you available?
01:56 <animuson> theres a +sty
01:56 <animuson> but theres no +ct
01:56 <smoothice> yeah
01:56 <smoothice> after I'm done
01:57 <smoothice> kyle and voodoo are going to port all their stuff
01:57 <PinkTomato> smoothice: (00:55:55) PinkTomato: animuson: because sty was incompatible 0.3
01:57 <PinkTomato> I did say was ;)
01:57 <smoothice> hah
01:57 <smoothice> lol
02:00 <PinkTomato> #night
02:00 <@armabot> Good night PinkTomato!
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02:01 <animuson> #night
02:01 <@armabot> Good night animuson!
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03:11 <ivantis> does this comic remind anyone else of 2 people that normally reside in this channel?
03:11 <smoothice> BabyBug: for some reason I cannot compile trunk on my Ubuntu server
03:11 <ivantis> http://xkcd.com/298/
03:13 <ivantis> the guy with the hat really reminds me of epsy
03:13 <ct|kyle> ivantis: you disappoint me, I thought for sure it was going to be a BabyBug / lizmatic one
03:13 <ivantis> kind of babybugish
03:14 <ivantis> i have never talked with lizmatic
03:15 <ct|kyle> I did think of epsy, but who is the other one
03:15 <ivantis> man that hatted man reminds me of everyone here!
03:16 <ivantis> the other guy reminds me of nsh22, smoothice, and whoever that other guy is
03:16 <ivantis> the relatively new people
03:18 <smoothice> ivantis: -.-
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03:31 <ivantis> you are kind of new!
03:31 <ivantis> who is that other new person?
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05:44 <Red_Pachel[home]> i began writing a scoring perl app that used the log files, it works fairly well and is very simple, but i realized some serious flaws the data is never normalized, are there any other mod's like this out there that might work much better than mine?
05:44 <ct|kyle> what logs are you using?
05:45 <Red_Pachel[home]> actaully, i've taken the onscreen output and piped to a file, and i process it via cron every X minutes, i was going to use the debug logs, but quickly learned they were not exactly readable w/o the log reader
05:46 <ct|kyle> try the ladderlog.txt
05:46 <Red_Pachel[home]> ok! .. defaults to /var/log/ ?
05:46 <ct|kyle> wherever the variables are
05:47 <Red_Pachel[home]> ok i'll check it out! thanks
05:47 <ct|kyle> also
05:47 <Red_Pachel[home]> yes?
05:47 <ct|kyle> you may want ct+sty because it has a bit better of a ladderlog for scripting
05:48 <Red_Pachel[home]> ct+sty ????
05:48 <ct|kyle> https://code.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-ct/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct
05:50 <ct|kyle> I think the main advantage to it is that it has a ROUND_COMMENCING  in it  and maybe a more stable GAME_TIME
05:50 <Red_Pachel[home]> alright! i can see how that can help!
05:51 <Red_Pachel[home]> have other's writen scoring scprits/mods before? i can only assume so
05:53 <Red_Pachel[home]> is there a description of these files some where? like what is ladder.txt?
05:53 <Red_Pachel[home]> now i'm just curious
05:53 <ct|kyle> ladder.txt is where it stores the ingame ladders
05:54 <Red_Pachel[home]> ok, maybe a dumb question .. what's a ladder?
05:54 <ct|kyle> rating system
05:55 <ct|kyle> http://crazy-tronners.com/wiki/index.php/Edlog  that has a list of all the ladderlog stuff in sty+ct
05:55 <ct|kyle> there are also a few more than that
05:55 <Red_Pachel[home]> ah! nice reading material! thanks
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05:58 <ct|kyle> Red_Pachel[home]: http://plantpeanuts.co.uk/flowersumo/edlog_parser_0.1.1.php.txt  this could also give you a little idea as to how to use it
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06:42 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r876 Getting onEntry and some ePlayer stuff compleated, should be...
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07:46 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/turtle/classic/4towers-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by turtle
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10:27 <BabyBug> moooooooooooooooooorning :D
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10:47 <MrBougo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tr2n
10:47 <MrBougo> eh.
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11:04 <PinkTomato> spam spam :( : http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=204423#204423
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11:42 <BabyBug> Why is guest posting even allowed on the forums?
11:47 <MaZuffeR> it isn't, posts from removed accounts are shown as guest posts
11:47 <BabyBug> oooo =x
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12:25 <MrBougo> woah seriously?
12:25 <MrBougo> now they team up?
12:25 <MrBougo> soon they'll be chatting and sending links on their own forums
12:25 <MrBougo> and talk about taking over humanity
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14:04 <guru3> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qZW8F0WC78
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15:22 <nsh22> hey hey hey
15:22 <nsh22> good mornin ladies
15:22 <nsh22> :P
15:22 <PinkTomato> #morning nsh22
15:23 <@armabot> Good Morning PinkTomato Random Fortune: FORTUNE PROVIDES QUESTIONS FOR THE GREAT ANSWERS: #21 || A: Dr. Livingston I. Presume. || Q: What's Dr. Presume's full name?
15:24 <nsh22> :P
15:25 <nsh22> #q
15:25 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #1: "Was this compiled by our friend Sum Ting Wong? --WallyWallWhackr" (added by Lucifer_arma at 06:37 AM, March 24, 2006)
15:25 <nsh22> lol
15:28 <nsh22> #quote
15:28 <@armabot> nsh22: Maybe you should loosen her clothing or something." -- Gaspode the wonder dog (Terry Pratchett, Moving Pictures)
15:28 <nsh22> #q
15:28 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #12: "'ebuild blah portage rocks emerge hotplug coldplig - armabot mashuffle'" (added by n54 at 05:44 PM, March 29, 2006)
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15:57 <smoothice> ello nsh22
15:59 <nsh22> ello smoothice
15:59 <nsh22> #q
15:59 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #85: "i spelled sumthing wrong -nsh22" (added by Lucifer_arma at 01:06 AM, January 07, 2009)
15:59 <nsh22> :(
16:00 <smoothice> Lol!
16:00 <nsh22> #Q
16:00 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #85: "i spelled sumthing wrong -nsh22" (added by Lucifer_arma at 01:06 AM, January 07, 2009)
16:00 <nsh22> #q
16:00 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #78: "<Lucifer> we all live in the other submarine, the other submarine, the other submarine" (added by epsy at 08:20 PM, August 01, 2008)
16:00 <smoothice> #q
16:00 <@armabot> smoothice: Quote #87: "<BabyBug> the thought of rabbit teeth near my clit is in no way sexy" (added by Lucifer_arma at 04:58 AM, January 18, 2009)
16:00 <nsh22> lol
16:00 <nsh22> hahaha
16:00 <smoothice> heee
16:00 <nsh22> #q
16:00 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #72: "epsy puts himself in the middle and eats it.  --epsy" (added by Lucifer_arma at 12:48 AM, July 28, 2008)
16:00 <nsh22> #q
16:00 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #57: "* epsy runs away from MrBougo | <epsy> i'm gonna take a shower brb | * MrBougo follows epsy *" (added by MrBougo at 01:38 PM, August 12, 2007)
16:01 <nsh22> o0
16:01 <nsh22> #q
16:01 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #13: "<hang3r> How many microbuscity's does it take to change a light bulb?" (added by hang3r at 07:41 AM, March 31, 2006)
16:01 <nsh22> #q
16:01 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #81: "GodTodd: that lightning is just God aiming for luke-jr and missing" (added by ct|kyle at 07:50 AM, August 05, 2008)
16:01 <nsh22> hahahaha
16:01 <smoothice> #stop nsh22
16:01 <smoothice> lol
16:01 <nsh22> :P
16:01 <nsh22> kk i g2g
16:01 <nsh22> #roulette
16:01 <smoothice> #alias add stop echo nsh22, please stop.
16:01 <smoothice> ok
16:01 <ct|kyle>  #k-line nsh22
16:01 <@armabot> nsh22: *click*
16:01 <@armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
16:01 <ct|kyle> :P
16:01 <nsh22> #roulette
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16:01  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
16:01 <smoothice> lol
16:02 <ct|kyle> woot
16:02 <smoothice> #help k-line
16:02 <@armabot> smoothice: Error: There is no command "kline".
16:02 <smoothice> -.-
16:06 <PinkTomato> my bzr won't do anything...
16:06 <smoothice> same for me omg!!
16:06 <PinkTomato> really?
16:06 <smoothice> Yeah!
16:06 <PinkTomato> Mine just blinks.
16:06 <smoothice> mine seemingly stalls
16:06 <smoothice> I cannot branch or checkout anything from lp
16:07 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: any ideas what we are doing wrong :)?
16:07 <smoothice> he had to go
16:07 <smoothice> I say temp LP outage
16:07 <BabyBug> It's fine here.
16:07 <smoothice> -.-
16:07 <smoothice> ur a baby so you don't know
16:07 <smoothice> what bazaar is
16:07 <PinkTomato> smoothice: we should upgrade our bzr's and try again :)
16:08 <smoothice> yeyeah
16:08 <BabyBug> bzr branch lp:armagetronad-match
16:08 <BabyBug> You have not informed bzr of your Launchpad ID, and you must do this to
16:08 <BabyBug> write to Launchpad or access private data.  See "bzr help launchpad-login".
16:08 <BabyBug> Branched 4 revision(s).
16:08 <smoothice> I'm dling 1.12
16:08 <BabyBug> it works whore!
16:08 <smoothice> ...
16:08 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: Woo
16:08 <PinkTomato> xD
16:08 <PinkTomato> I implemented a template class
16:08 <BabyBug> you did? woo \o/
16:09 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: I'm not sure if I done it right though :)
16:10 <BabyBug> i take it you're trying to push it? but that's what's not working?
16:10 <smoothice> I'm trying to co
16:10 <PinkTomato> I'm trying to push
16:11 <BabyBug> *shrugs* tis all hunky dory here!
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16:14 <PinkTomato> smoothice: any luck with the update?
16:14 <smoothice> nope
16:14 <smoothice> still stalled on bzr co lp:~armagetronad-sty-0.3/armagetronad/armagetronad-v2sty
16:14 <smoothice> and branch
16:14 <smoothice> tried both
16:14 <smoothice> I'm going to #launchpad
16:15 <smoothice> PinkTomato: u ask :P
16:15 <PinkTomato> smoothice: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/03/07/%23launchpad.html
16:16 <PinkTomato> no one answered :(
16:16 <smoothice> you never asked
16:16 <BabyBug> logs are not instant
16:18 <smoothice> ooo k
16:18 <smoothice> well
16:18 <smoothice> #bzr is reporting the same thing
16:18 <smoothice> so lp is screwed up :P
16:18 <@armabot> bzr co lp:armagetronad (for trunk) bzr co lp:armagetronad/0.2.8 (for 0.2.8) bzr branch lp:~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.3.1 (bzr >= 1.4)
16:18 <smoothice> hah
16:18 <PinkTomato> smoothice: so it not just us? ah, I thought the problem would be my ssh key, I forgot the password
16:18 <smoothice> nope
16:18 <smoothice> other users reporting the same
16:19 <PinkTomato> ahh, hope downtime is short,
16:19 <PinkTomato> any timescale?
16:20 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, "The server will remain locked to your account until everyone has left your server. " How are you planning to stop people abusing that? :P
16:20 <smoothice> meh
16:20 <smoothice> you can override that
16:21 <smoothice> easily :)
16:21 <smoothice> ladderlog write :P
16:21 <PinkTomato> hehe, I'm going to change how that works :).
16:21 <smoothice> lol
16:21 <PinkTomato> No plan yet
16:21 <smoothice> make ladderlog_write_game_time an Owner setting
16:21 <smoothice> and make the user Admin
16:22 <PinkTomato> Admin can't approve Admins
16:22 <smoothice> then recompile arma but in that build delete the ability to set it
16:22 <smoothice> lol
16:22 <PinkTomato> As long as an owner can't shell escape, I don't mind what they do to the server :)
16:22 <smoothice> lol
16:23 <Lizmatic> BabyBug, I HATE YOU =(
16:23 <PinkTomato> smoothice: I could make php run a cron job in an hours time to end server?
16:24 <smoothice> cron is crap
16:24 <smoothice> CronCrap
16:24 <PinkTomato> why so?
16:24 <PinkTomato> I have never used it
16:24 <smoothice> neither have I
16:24 <smoothice> lol
16:25 <smoothice> I just think it seems like something that would make the computer have to constantly _think_ about running cron jobs
16:25 <smoothice> therefore increasing cpu cycles and wear-and-tear
16:26 <PinkTomato> The computer will have to think constantly about doing nothing overwise though
16:27 <smoothice> hmmm
16:29 <smoothice> ^Cbzr: interrupted
16:29 <smoothice> -.-
16:35 <PinkTomato> smoothice: have you done templating in PHP?
16:35 <smoothice> oop?
16:36 <PinkTomato> sort of :)
16:36 <smoothice> Yeah
16:36 <smoothice> I don't do "templating" whatever that is
16:36 <smoothice> I do oop though
16:36 <smoothice> lol
16:36 <PinkTomato> ah :)
16:38 <guru3> wish i could do phpbb themes
16:39 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: http://dessert.ath.cx/download/armaserv/ is that clean php templated enough :)?
16:41 <PinkTomato> smoothice: I'm shrinking the code to that armagetron-match :)
16:41 <smoothice> good idea lol
16:41 <PinkTomato> plus I learnt require_once :D
16:43 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, better than it was :)
16:43 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: so it's heading in the right direction :D?
16:43 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, Yup!
16:43 <BabyBug> But you still still try get rid of the if statements and for loops out of the template files themselves
16:43 <smoothice> you never say that to me, BabyBug.
16:44 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: OK thank you! :), I'll change all the pages to a similar. BabyBug I'll look into that, but it seemed to make sense to use it like that :)
16:45 <smoothice> bzr is still broken :(
16:45 <smoothice> screw bzr
16:45 <smoothice> I'll use my private svn server
16:47 <Concord> how would one preset armagetron with custom connect settings?
16:47 <epsy> edit the default config file?
16:47 <guru3> change the shortcut?
16:48 <smoothice> http://crazy-tronners.com/resource/All_Tron_configs.cfg
16:48 <Concord> default.cfg?
16:48 <guru3> if that list could be properly tabbed
16:48 <guru3> so all the comments lined up
16:48 <guru3> that'd be good
16:48 <epsy> *spaced
16:48 <guru3> i'd also accept spaces
16:48 <epsy> because it's exacltly tabs that would fuck it up
16:49 <PinkTomato> guru3: isn't the armagetronad forums a custom phpbb theme?
16:49 <guru3> it's some files being tabbed ad others not tabbed
16:49 <guru3> PinkTomato: yes it is
16:49 <guru3> but i didn't do it
16:49 <PinkTomato> guru3: oh,
16:50 <guru3> community contribution
16:51 <BabyBug> smoothice, i never say that to you with good reason =)
16:51 <smoothice> -.-
16:51 <epsy> or rather, community sacrifice
16:53 <PinkTomato> argh, lagtest.net theme
16:53 <PinkTomato> brown on brown
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17:29 <PinkTomato> smoothice: bzr is fine now ?
17:32 <ct|kyle> it is fine for me too :)
17:33 <guru3> i really, really, wish the forums weren't a 1.2gb brick on disk
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17:34 <guru3> wow holy moly!
17:34 <guru3> the original 0.2.7.0 download page is hiding in there!
17:35 <guru3> (8315 Hits Since 07/02/04)
17:35 <smoothice> PinkTomato: yep looks like it
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17:45 <animuson> anyone here good with SPAWN_ZONE and SET_ZONE_POSITION?
17:45 <animuson> i cant get them to work right :(
17:45 <smoothice> #cfg2 spawn_zone
17:45 <@armabot> smoothice: SPAWN_ZONE: spawn_zone_help
17:45 <smoothice> there ya go
17:46 <smoothice> :P
17:46 <animuson> http://pastebin.com/m5046934c
17:48 <animuson> zone A moves back and forth correctly but in some random spot
17:48 <animuson> zones B and C dont move at all
17:48 <animuson> they just sit there
17:48 <smoothice> hmmm
17:50 <epsy> gaah!
17:50 <animuson> haag!
17:50 <epsy> I found a CMake script for proto's
17:50 <epsy> but it's not documented
17:51 <epsy> so I don't know how to actually use it >.>
17:51 <epsy> will do my own then :<
17:51 <epsy> brb
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17:59 <Concord> sinewav: http://s431.photobucket.com/albums/qq35/concordarma/?action=view&current=screenshot_1.png
18:00 <Concord> I made some progress on the menus
18:00 <sinewav> :o
18:00 <guru3> snazzy
18:00 <smoothice> Concord: :O
18:00 <Concord> and I don't even know c+_
18:00 <guru3> i'm looking into that pesky phpbb3 upgrade again
18:00 <sinewav> That's impressive conc.
18:00 <Concord> thnx :)
18:02 <smoothice> guru3: pesky?
18:02 <guru3> i've looked at it before
18:02 <guru3> this is the farthest ive gotten
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18:02 <guru3> it's taking ages on the database
18:06 <guru3> here's a jeopardy question for everyone
18:06 <Concord> whats the terminal command to print the public ssh key?
18:06 <guru3> this sentence is the forums official phrase
18:06 <guru3> cat .ssh/id_rsa.pub?
18:06 <Concord> what is "you don't have to put up with this shit"?
18:06 <guru3> no
18:06 <BabyBug> an epic fail by lack
18:06 <Concord> guru, thnx
18:07 <guru3> BabyBug: no
18:07 <guru3> used to be everywhere
18:07 <BabyBug> guru3, well that's what he said!
18:07 <BabyBug> =x
18:08 <guru3> the phrase i mean
18:08 <guru3> back in the day
18:08 <BabyBug> uhh? what?
18:08 <guru3> the old forums moto
18:08 <guru3> LOL
18:08 <guru3> the upgrade worked
18:09 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r877 If the flag is already home. you cannot return it again
18:09 <smoothice> that's me ^ :D
18:09 <smoothice> muahahahaha
18:11 <guru3> http://guru3.net/temp/phpbb3.png
18:11 <PinkTomato> <br> is that what pointing out?
18:12 <PinkTomato> no more custom skin :(?
18:12 <guru3> i dunno
18:12 <guru3> just finding out about the viability of a phpbb3 upgrade at the moment
18:12  * animuson slaps PinkTomato around a bit with a large red cabbage
18:12 <smoothice> Lol!
18:12 <PinkTomato> why does Forum Admin<br>Project Admin happen?
18:13 <guru3> because that's a hack on my part
18:14 <guru3> because users in phpbb2 get 1 rank only
18:14 <guru3> so i used <br> to show a 2nd rank on a new line
18:14 <PinkTomato> Oh right :)
18:14 <guru3> but it seems that phpbb3 doesn't like html
18:14 <guru3> and the flags have been lost
18:14 <guru3> trying to find out if the attachments still work though
18:15 <PinkTomato> PHPbb2 does not have attachments?
18:15 <guru3> not by default
18:15 <guru3> that was a mad
18:15 <guru3> *mod
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18:16 <guru3> Lackadaisical! just the man i was thinking about!
18:17 <Lackadaisical> hey!
18:17 <guru3> wouldn't happen to be interested in looking at phpbb3 themeing would you?
18:18 <Lackadaisical> is this part of the whole thing kamp was talking about ont he forums?
18:18 <guru3> not really
18:18 <guru3> i've been meaning to upgrade for ages
18:18 <Concord> how do you push to launchpad?
18:18 <guru3> but i happen to be on a bit of a php spree
18:18 <guru3> so i'm touching base on all my outstanding php projects
18:18 <guru3> which includes the forums
18:18 <Lackadaisical> ah ok.. yeah the forums could use an upgrade
18:19 <guru3> (my dissertation is written in php, so i've been on a roll lately)
18:19 <PinkTomato> Concord: bzr push lp:project
18:19 <PinkTomato> lp:[project] :)
18:19 <Concord> bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "/Users/redwood/".
18:20 <guru3> they could
18:20 <guru3> they don't even work with phpbb5
18:20 <Lackadaisical> well i kinda like kamps idea of upgrading all things at once and give them all the same sort of style
18:20 <guru3> it's not a bad one
18:20 <guru3> but it's not something i'm capable of
18:20 <guru3> i'm sure you still remember the original logo
18:21 <Lackadaisical> heh
18:21 <PinkTomato> Concord: sounds like you need to set the project up ?
18:21 <PinkTomato> Concord: I forgot how to do that. :)
18:21 <Concord> hehe
18:22 <Lackadaisical> well i can help with skinning, but maybe you should ask him to get involved with it
18:22  * animuson slaps PinkTomato around a bit with a large red cabbage
18:23 <PinkTomato> No more cabbage! :D
18:24  * animuson slaps PinkTomato around a bit with a large bok choy
18:28 <akira_arma> #tea
18:28 <@armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (13/32): Aiphaton, alf, apparitiøn (apparition@forums), Bah, Dr.lilian, Monkey.D.Luffy, noobSaibot +, pruWord (Word@forums), Pru|»th3¤r0z3r¥, rope, Sithy (Sithy@forums), Slëëpÿ, Tðbê (Tobe@forums)
18:29 <akira_arma> O.o
18:39 <guru3> right
18:40 <guru3> landlord showed up
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18:42 <guru3> Lackadaisical: i'd be perfectly happy with the old theme ontop of phpbb3
18:42 <guru3> could switcheroo with no one notice
18:43  * sinewav likes the current look, but is pretty easygoing when it comes to change.
18:43  * animuson slaps PinkTomato around a bit with a large bok choy
18:43 <guru3> oh bloody hell
18:44 <guru3> on upgrading i'll have to rename all the attachment filenames
18:44 <sinewav> :/
18:44 <Lackadaisical> well i did a pretty bad job keeping style/content seperated when i skinned that.. would be pretty hard to recreate it for phpbb3
18:44 <Lackadaisical> it would take the same amount of work as just creating a new theme
18:44 <Lackadaisical> probably
18:44 <guru3> 'twas afraid of something like that
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18:57 <mkzelda> #weather 27545
18:57 <@armabot> mkzelda: The current temperature in Hedingham, Raleigh, North Carolina is 73.2°F (12:57 PM EST on March 07, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 44.6°F. Pressure: 29.20 in 988.7 hPa (Steady).
18:58 <Concord> btw, my build: https://code.launchpad.net/~concord-arma/armagetronad/fortressclient
18:58 <guru3> only thing that doesn't work is flags :/
18:59 <guru3> but otherwise phpbb3 is feasible
19:03 <guru3> dinner time now
19:03 <guru3> adieu
19:03 <sinewav> bb
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20:12 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1091 SILENCE_ALL can be used on the client to ignore chat from al...
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20:21 <epsy> woot, it builds .pb.h/cc's ! :D
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20:23 <luke-jr_> flags?
20:23 <Lackadaisical> countryflags
20:24 <luke-jr_> o
20:24 <luke-jr_> does anyone actually care about those? :o
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20:45 <epsy> /home/epsy/CODE/armagetron/trunk-cmake/src/tools/tRing.cpp:50: erreur: ‘NULL’ was not declared in this scope
20:45 <epsy> do we define NULL ??
20:46 <guru3> i thought it was a standard definition
20:46 <guru3> maybe it's null though
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20:50 <dlh> you need to include cstddef
20:50 <dlh> epsy:
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20:59 <epsy> is that from our project?
20:59 <dlh> cstddef is a std c++ header that just wraps stddef.h
21:00 <epsy> why didn't we include it already?
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21:01 <dlh> because in the current system it probably gets included in some other header before you need it from tRing
21:01 <dlh> and I'm not sure tRing is even used in the project. It probably could be removed
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21:03 <epsy> bespin is like a web IDE+code host or sth?
21:03 <epsy> dlh, mkay
21:04 <epsy> $ grep -Rn '<cstddef>' ../trunk/
21:04 <epsy> empty set :s
21:04 <dlh> grep for stddef.h, it could use that
21:04 <epsy> same
21:05 <dlh> tSafePTR.h
21:06 <epsy> don't see an include from there O_o
21:07 <BabyBug> you're blind epsy
21:08 <epsy> ah right
21:09 <epsy> ah, I see the prob
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21:20 <nsh22> hey hey hey
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21:25 <noob13> z-man, i wanted to ask, what version did you use for recording the ladle final? for me (on beta2) it gets stuck in the "mates" menu.
21:26 <noob13> is there a way to bypass that without installing a different client?
21:27 <z-man> 02.8.2.1, as usual.
21:27 <z-man> and no, it certainly won't work on any other version.
21:27 <z-man> <insert lecture about nature of DEBUG recordings>
21:27 <noob13> Ok, thanks :)
21:27 <epsy> @aawikis debug recording
21:27 <teabot> epsy: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Debug_Recording - Debug Recording - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
21:27 <epsy> :)
21:28 <epsy> I'm making some progress with CMake
21:28 <epsy> .pb.h & .pb.cc are generated :)
21:28 <epsy> I'm on tools now
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21:39 <smoothice> z-man: what does SetVelocity do in zones v1? I'm porting the blink stuff right now and I'm curious what that does and how I would bring it over to zones v2
21:40 <noob13> wouldn't it be possible to make the recordings more user-friendly? i mean, the client already has to know the location and movements of the other bikes. if these were recorded, couldn't the game data be played back afterwards?
21:41 <noob13> so that one could even change view and follow different players during the playback.....
21:41 <noob13> :P
21:41 <epsy> noob13,
21:41 <epsy> @aawikis debug recording
21:41 <PinkTomato> hmm, if we get mirroring working, shouldn't recordings become easy?
21:41 <teabot> epsy: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Debug_Recording - Debug Recording - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
21:41 <epsy> it is close to perfect for what it is meant to do
21:41 <epsy> now pretty much everyone around here don't get what they are meant to do
21:41 <guru3> did no one see my video? :<
21:41 <noob13> i see that, i was just wondering..
21:41 <epsy> I did
21:42 <PinkTomato> with the key response?
21:42 <z-man> SetVelocity? Dunno. Must be sty specific.
21:42 <epsy> noob13, I have somewhere around my mind a concept for game recordings(!= debug recordings)
21:42 <smoothice> z-man: It's a method of gZone
21:42 <guru3> yeah, showing the key presses
21:42 <guru3> smoothice: it sets the speed at which the zone spins, i think
21:42 <guru3> that or the speed at which it moves
21:42 <guru3> one of the two
21:42 <z-man> That would be SetRotationSpeed
21:43 <smoothice> Yeah
21:43 <guru3> ah
21:43 <smoothice> That's what I was thinking
21:43 <noob13> epsy, so you agree its possible and a potentially amazing feature?
21:43 <epsy> I do.
21:44 <epsy> but it won't be possible with debug recordings
21:44 <epsy> & pretty much nothing is impossible
21:44 <smoothice> guru3, z-man: should I comment out all the set velocities?
21:44 <guru3> //!             @param  velocity        the current velocity to set
21:44 <guru3> //!             @return         A reference to this to allow chaining
21:44 <smoothice> :/
21:44 <epsy> just that some stuff are impossible because they need a lot of work before we can actually get to it
21:44 <z-man> noob13: it's already possible to change camera stuff and watch different players, provided the recorder had the presence of mind to record in spectator mode.
21:44 <guru3> in gWinZone.cpp in zones v1
21:44 <epsy> that one falls into this group
21:45 <z-man> smoothice: why comment them out?
21:45 <smoothice> z-man: Because SetVelocity doesn't exist in v2
21:45 <guru3> i'm sure there's an equivalent
21:45 <PinkTomato> Is that moving Zones?
21:45 <smoothice> no
21:45 <z-man> It should be a member in zShape.
21:45 <smoothice> zonesv2-sty
21:45 <smoothice> ok
21:46 <z-man> If it isn't, then add it :)
21:46 <smoothice> I don't want to infect zones v2 with my corrupted and noob mind
21:46 <guru3> does that mean with have zCircles then?
21:46 <smoothice> lol
21:46 <guru3> and zSquares
21:46 <guru3> all sorts of zShapes
21:47 <smoothice> Here is  an example of setvelocity
21:47 <smoothice>                     shape->Position() = owner_->Position();
21:47 <smoothice>                     SetVelocity(owner_->Direction() * owner_->Speed());
21:47 <guru3> yes
21:48 <guru3> do you know the difference between speed and velocity smoothice?
21:48 <smoothice> The same :P
21:48 <guru3> WRONG
21:48 <PinkTomato> Ahh!
21:48 <smoothice> ?
21:48 <PinkTomato> Velocity = speed and direction
21:48 <PinkTomato> speed = speed
21:48 <guru3> PinkTomato: DING DING DING
21:48 <PinkTomato> hehe :)
21:48 <smoothice> alright
21:49 <PinkTomato> smoothice: SetVelocity(owner_->Direction() * owner_->Speed());
21:49 <smoothice> O_o
21:49 <smoothice> :P
21:49 <smoothice> The zones v2 looks to be SetRotationSpeed
21:49 <smoothice> equivalent
21:49 <guru3> setrotationspeed
21:49 <guru3> has nothing todo with setvelocity
21:50 <smoothice> whoa wait
21:50 <smoothice> how can a zone have a speed and direction
21:50 <guru3> ROTATION speed
21:50 <guru3> how fast it spins
21:50 <guru3> has nothing to do with what direction it's moving in and how fast it's going there
21:51 <smoothice> but
21:51 <smoothice> a zone moves?
21:51 <guru3> ever played styball?
21:51 <guru3> capture the flag?
21:51 <smoothice> yes...
21:51 <guru3> did you catch the zones moving?
21:51 <smoothice> yeah
21:51 <smoothice> lol
21:52 <smoothice> I'm just saying SetVelocity isn't declared
21:52 <smoothice> so
21:52 <smoothice> Should I make it?
21:52 <smoothice> copy the code over?
21:52 <guru3> i don't know if copying it is necessary
21:52 <guru3> but some equivalent
21:52 <guru3> should be someplace
21:52 <guru3> and yes you hsould make it if its not
21:53 <guru3> according to z-man
21:53 <PinkTomato> So... it's about moving zones?
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21:53 <smoothice> yeah
21:53 <smoothice> I guess
21:53 <smoothice> lol
21:53 <guru3> hat was one of the thigns in mind when zones v2 was designed
21:53 <guru3> imagine if the fotress zone moved
21:54 <smoothice> GetRotation()
21:54 <smoothice> GetRotationSpeed();
21:54 <smoothice> SetRotationSpeed(REAL r);
21:54 <smoothice> GetRotationAcceleration();
21:54 <smoothice> SetRotationAcceleration(REAL r);
21:54 <smoothice> GetEffectiveSegments() const;
21:54 <smoothice> GetEffectiveSegmentLength() const;
21:54 <PinkTomato> pastebin!
21:54 <guru3> in zShape?
21:54 <smoothice> oops
21:54 <smoothice> Yeah
21:54 <guru3> that can't be it
21:54 <smoothice> setRotation2
21:55 <smoothice> setGrowth
21:55 <smoothice> and some pos stuff
21:55 <smoothice> but that's it
21:57 <guru3> hmmm
21:58 <guru3> guess you'll have to add it
21:59 <smoothice> ok
22:01 <smoothice> guru3, z-man: Yeah, the only two remaining errors I'm getting are the lack of ability to see the velocity and radius of the flag zone
22:01 <smoothice> set*
22:01 <guru3> now i know i saw setradius just now
22:01 <smoothice> but
22:02 <smoothice> there is no radius in zones v2
22:02 <guru3> for zCircles?
22:02 <smoothice> except for zShapeCircles
22:02 <smoothice> but
22:02 <smoothice> there may be polygonal flags
22:02 <z-man> The real radius is the product of that with the scale property of the zShape base (or zZone, can't remember).
22:03 <z-man> For animation, you should use the scale.
22:03 <z-man> That works for polygons, too.
22:03 <smoothice> ok
22:03 <smoothice> and
22:03 <smoothice> Its argument is a tFunction
22:03 <smoothice> How so I implement that?
22:04 <z-man> tFunction is a linear function of form f(t) = c + a(t-t_0)
22:04 <z-man> t_0 being the reference time stored in the shape.
22:04 <z-man> so you set the zone offset c to 0
22:05 <z-man> the slope a to 1 (or whatever you like)
22:05 <z-man> and the reference time to the current time.
22:05 <smoothice> and what about the scale itself?
22:06 <smoothice> I thought the scale would just be a flaot
22:06 <smoothice> float
22:09 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9136 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. NEWS src/engine/ePlayer.cpp): Daniel Lee Harple: SILENCE_ALL can be used on the client to ignore chat from all players locally.
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22:16 <smoothice> z-man: so of tFunction I need to use SetOffset and SetSlope?
22:17 <smoothice> z-man: and then how does offset and slope make a scale?
22:18 <z-man> scale = offset + slope * (time - referencetime)
22:18 <smoothice> so the reference time
22:18 <smoothice> is
22:18 <smoothice> shape->ReferenceTime()?
22:19 <smoothice> SetReferenceTime(); is deprecated
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22:26 <z-man> It is? But the scale is still a tFunction using it? then slap luke-jr :)
22:26 <smoothice> #help slap
22:26 <@armabot> smoothice: (slap <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "echo $who slaps $1 for being a raving moron.".
22:27 <smoothice> #slap luke-jr
22:27 <@armabot> smoothice slaps luke-jr for being a raving moron.
22:27 <z-man> Or not. Possibly, the reference time is stored elsewhere.
22:27 <smoothice> well
22:27 <smoothice> there's a setreferencetime but no GetReferenceTime
22:28 <smoothice> -.-
22:28 <smoothice> in fact
22:28 <smoothice> what does reference time do anyways?
22:31 <smoothice> z-man: So I need to recreate SetVelocity as a method of what class?
22:31 <smoothice> or
22:31 <smoothice> should that be done in trunk
22:31 <smoothice> and then I can merge from it
22:31 <epsy> grmpf
22:31 <z-man> Possiby, but it needs to be done :)
22:31 <epsy> ah
22:31 <smoothice> epsy: ???
22:31 <epsy> https://code.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/trunk-cmake
22:31 <epsy> :)
22:31 <z-man> zShape would be the cass.
22:32 <smoothice> ok
22:32 <smoothice> who should implement it?
22:32 <smoothice> It wouldn't make sense for me to implement it and then someone else
22:33 <epsy> argh, my clock is bugged again
22:33 <epsy>  891. By  epsy  in 32 minutes
22:33 <smoothice> #slap epsy
22:33 <@armabot> smoothice slaps epsy for being a raving moron.
22:33 <smoothice> z-man: so should I implement then?
22:33 <z-man> yes.
22:34 <epsy> let's hope CMake+make don't mess up as soon as I get my clock set up properly
22:34 <z-man> does it help us build on Windows and Mac? :)
22:34 <epsy> it SHOULD
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22:35 <epsy> now the big problem will be client vs dedicated
22:35 <nsh22> hey
22:36 <epsy> so, well, I will try to make it possible to build both :)
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22:49 <smoothice> z-man: http://armagetron.pastebin.com/m60bd7374
22:50 <smoothice> z-man: That's all in zShape
22:50 <smoothice> nsh22: what's new
22:50 <nsh22> nm, u
22:50 <smoothice> z-man: I tried Position() too with arguments and stuff with no luck
22:50 <smoothice> nsh22: not much...
22:50 <z-man> it needs to be zShape::SetPosition.
22:51 <z-man> err, zShape::SetVelocity.
22:51 <smoothice> not get?
22:51 <smoothice> ok
22:52 <smoothice> z-man: so then instead of GetPosition
22:52 <smoothice> z-man: zShape::GetPosition ( pos ); ?
22:53 <z-man> no, instead of void SetVelocity( eCoord const & velocity )
22:53 <z-man> void zShape::SetVelocity( eCoord const & velocity )
22:55 <smoothice> yeah I got that... but Instead of the method should it look like this? It compiles: http://armagetron.pastebin.com/m3cf92b3d
22:59 <smoothice> z-man: ?
23:00 <akira_arma> #tea
23:00 <@armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (13/32): ?gïrl/dæv/ñµll, Dragon268, free kill (dlh@generalconsumption.org), Ichigo, longballlasch, No Comparison, noob13 (noob13@ct), pike, Player 1, strona, Z00, ~|DS|~AshitakA, ¦×¦ PlayerNuby (PlayerNub@x/member)
23:00 <z-man> I don't know :) I didn't write zShape.
23:01 <z-man> And hardly had anything to do with it.
23:02 <smoothice> ohhhhh
23:02 <smoothice> phillipeqc wrote it?
23:02 <epsy> yes
23:03 <smoothice> dang I wish he was still around
23:04 <epsy> PM him, if it's really important
23:04 <epsy> libtools builds :)
23:05 <smoothice> he gets pm's?
23:05 <epsy> only if you send them
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23:16 <ivantis> this is fun
23:16 <ivantis> im going to a movie that i wasnt allowed to go to
23:17 <smoothice> -.-
23:17 <ivantis> 'watchmen'
23:17 <ivantis> its R, but im  taking a bus going there
23:17 <ivantis> heehee
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23:18 <smoothice> z-man: so about the radius... if the original code was
23:18 <smoothice> z-man: SetRadius(originalRadius_ * startRadiusPercent);
23:18 <smoothice> z-man: Then how do I turn that into the scale
23:18 <smoothice> I'm still not quite comprehending tFunction appropriately
23:19 <luke-jr> z-man: SetReferenceTime is on zZone; scale is on zShape
23:19 <guru3> smoothice: have you done linear algebra?
23:19 <smoothice> guru3: is that algebra 1 or 2?
23:20 <guru3> algebra 1 in the US i think
23:20 <z-man> luke-jr: any idea why? Wich part of zZone uses it?
23:20 <smoothice> guru3: then yes
23:21 <guru3> y = mx + b
23:21 <smoothice> Yeah
23:21 <smoothice> slope and y-intercept
23:21 <guru3> from what i saw z-man write earlier
23:21 <guru3> tFunction is a variation on that
23:22 <guru3> where x is the difference between two time steps
23:22 <luke-jr> z-man: zZone doesn't use it
23:22 <luke-jr> z-man: gZone did, for the shape
23:23 <z-man> Then what's it doing there?
23:23 <smoothice> guru3: but then how does that have to do with scale?
23:23 <luke-jr> z-man: zZone::SetReferenceTime is a __deprecated wrapper to shape->SetReferenceTime(), to aid in porting stuff from zones v1
23:23 <guru3> if y was the zone radius
23:23 <guru3> y over the original radius
23:23 <guru3> would be teh scale
23:23 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-cmake] r891 Added CMakeLists.txt... || [trunk-cmake] r892 Libtools builds....
23:23 <z-man> Didn't you say reference time is on zZone?
23:24 <luke-jr> the __deprecated zZone::SetReferenceTime calls zShape::SetReferenceTime
23:24 <luke-jr> only the former is deprecated
23:26 <luke-jr> z-man: basically the idea is to go from gZone subclass to zZone subclass with minimal work, fix the bugs, *then* change deprecated calls
23:26 <smoothice> 'class zShape' has no member named 'SetReferenceTime'?
23:26  * nsh22 is away: dinner
23:26 <luke-jr> smoothice: it might be called soemthing else
23:26 <smoothice> nope
23:26 <smoothice> void zShape::setReferenceTime(REAL time)
23:27 <smoothice> damnit
23:27 <smoothice> why does
23:27 <smoothice> arggggg
23:27 <smoothice> shape->SetReferenceTime();
23:27 <smoothice> 'class zShape' has no member named 'SetReferenceTime'
23:27 <smoothice> -.-
23:27 <luke-jr> lowercase 's'
23:27 <luke-jr> you'll need to add a time argument too
23:28 <smoothice> ok
23:28 <smoothice> Got that fixed
23:29 <smoothice> now
23:29 <smoothice> Get and Set Radius are the only things left
23:29 <smoothice> and then I've got flag blinking theoretically
23:29  * nsh22 is back (gone 00:03:08)
23:29 <nsh22> stil working on sty v2?
23:29 <nsh22> or w/e
23:30 <smoothice> nsh22: yeah
23:30 <luke-jr> smoothice: wtf does radius have to do with blinking?
23:30 <smoothice> when it blinks
23:30 <smoothice> it goes from small to big
23:30 <smoothice> and stuff
23:30 <luke-jr> …
23:30 <luke-jr> why
23:30 <smoothice> pig made it that way
23:31 <smoothice> should I remove it?
23:31 <z-man> luke-jr: but what is the reference time variable still doing in zZone?
23:32 <smoothice> luke-jr: the control of the blink is done via Radius... setting it to 0 and then up to the user-controlled value again... back and forth
23:33 <smoothice> luke-jr: I can convert it to alpha if necessary
23:33 <luke-jr> z-man: no idea
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23:34 <luke-jr> smoothice: probably should be an option
23:34 <smoothice> luke-jr: flag blinking at all?
23:35 <luke-jr> I'm assuming that's already an option
23:35 <smoothice> yes
23:35 <smoothice> all the configs are in
23:48 <nsh22> smoothice: how is the php thingy goin?
23:48 <smoothice> nsh22: god
23:48 <smoothice> good
23:48 <nsh22> :P
23:49 <epsy> hmmm
23:49 <epsy> darn
23:49 <smoothice> ?
23:49 <epsy> network built up to the forelast target
23:49 <epsy> then fails on the last one
23:49 <epsy> with an error I don't really understand
23:53 <epsy> z-man, http://armagetronad.pastebin.com/m45a4e77e
23:53 <epsy> z-man, any idea?
23:54 <smoothice> luke-jr: how do I control the alpha of a zone? shape->Alpha?
23:54 <z-man> epsy: looks like missing includes, perhaps some flags set wronly
23:55 <luke-jr> tColor color = shape->GetColor(); /* manipulate color.a_ */; shape->SetColor(color);
23:55 <z-man> for example, trying to include the Windows headers or something.
23:55 <smoothice> luke-jr: alpha, not color
23:55 <epsy> is the <unnamed>:: part normal?
23:55 <luke-jr> smoothice: alpha is part of the color
23:56 <smoothice> but alpha isn't r g b
23:56 <epsy> you can set a
23:56 <smoothice> ooo
23:56 <smoothice> k
23:56 <epsy> or a_
23:56 <epsy> can't remember
23:56 <luke-jr> tColor isn't r g b
23:56 <luke-jr> it's RGBA
23:56 <smoothice> ok
23:58 <epsy> z-man, [23:56] <epsy>: is the <unnamed>:: part normal?
23:59 <z-man> No.
23:59 <z-man> May be the anonymous namespace.
23:59 <epsy> that's what I'm thinking

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00:01 <nsh22> #r
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00:05 <smoothice> luke-jr: what's the difference between tColor and rColor?
00:05 <luke-jr> rColor can render or something
00:05 <smoothice> k
00:07 <smoothice> luke-jr: does alpha work on a percent scale?
00:07 <luke-jr> ofc
00:08 <smoothice> k thanks
00:08 <nsh22> what is alpha?
00:10 <smoothice> transparency
00:10 <smoothice> luke-jr: zFlag.cpp:181: error: 'class zShape' has no member named 'GetColor'
00:10 <nsh22> then make a member\
00:10 <smoothice> ...
00:10 <nsh22> or try getColor
00:11 <smoothice> heyyy
00:11 <smoothice> it worked!
00:11 <smoothice> thanks nsh22 :P
00:11 <luke-jr> alpha is *usually* transparency
00:11 <nsh22> :P
00:11 <luke-jr> we need time based colour
00:11 <luke-jr> and functions better than polynomials
00:11 <nsh22> im good at programming now! :P
00:12 <smoothice> luke-jr: usually?
00:12 <luke-jr> smoothice: it can also be additive transparency, or object colour
00:12 <luke-jr> right now
00:13 <luke-jr> for zones, it is additive transparency
00:13 <smoothice> zomg
00:14 <smoothice> Build succeeded
00:14 <luke-jr> …
00:14 <smoothice> THis could be alpha flag blinking
00:14 <smoothice> *crosses fingers*
00:14 <PinkTomato> interesting
00:15 <nsh22> why do you want the flags to blink?
00:15 <smoothice> ...
00:15 <smoothice> when you own them stupid
00:15 <smoothice> lol
00:16 <nsh22> stupid?
00:16 <nsh22> #kick smoothice in the shin
00:16 <nsh22> :P
00:16 <smoothice> fail
00:16 <smoothice> #slap nsh22
00:16 <@armabot> nsh22: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
00:16 <@armabot> smoothice slaps nsh22 for being a raving moron.
00:17 <smoothice> ownd!
00:17 <nsh22> ]list
00:17 <ljrbot> nsh22: Admin, Alias, Bible, Channel, Config, Format, Games, Karma, Later, Math, Misc, Network, Owner, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Status, Stock, User, Utilities, Weather, Web, and Yandere
00:17 <nsh22> #slap smoothice
00:17 <@armabot> nsh22 slaps smoothice for being a raving moron.
00:17 <smoothice> lol
00:17 <smoothice> I got it first :P
00:17 <nsh22> #q
00:17 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #58: "luke, your so cute when you think you are right about some crazy position. - philippeqc2" (added by GodTodd at 03:34 AM, August 13, 2007)
00:17 <nsh22> lol
00:17 <nsh22> lol
00:17 <nsh22> #q
00:18 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #57: "* epsy runs away from MrBougo | <epsy> i'm gonna take a shower brb | * MrBougo follows epsy *" (added by MrBougo at 01:38 PM, August 12, 2007)
00:18 <nsh22> #q
00:18 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #72: "epsy puts himself in the middle and eats it.  --epsy" (added by Lucifer_arma at 12:48 AM, July 28, 2008)
00:18 <nsh22> #q
00:18 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #81: "GodTodd: that lightning is just God aiming for luke-jr and missing" (added by ct|kyle at 07:50 AM, August 05, 2008)
00:18 <nsh22> #q
00:18 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #62: "<tronner> armabot: *click* <armabot> tronner: You've given me 5 invalid commands within the last minute; I'm now ignoring you for 10 minutes." (added by epsy at 11:34 PM, November 16, 2007)
00:18 <nsh22> #q
00:18 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #18: "so you can't send a note to spidey or other noobs. -wrtlprnft" (added by Vanhayes at 05:23 AM, June 21, 2006)
00:19 <smoothice> luke-jr: I just ran it and it did nothing different -.-
00:19 <nsh22> #q
00:19 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #84: "<cusco> #quote search *cusco*  <armabot> cusco: No matching quotes were found." (added by Lucifer_arma at 11:54 PM, December 19, 2008)
00:19 <nsh22> #q
00:19 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #44: "the real question is, what idiot hosted a server for Hyphy? -- Lucifer_arma" (added by ghableska at 04:02 AM, March 05, 2007)
00:21 <smoothice> luke-jr: this alpha code isn't working
00:22 <smoothice> luke-jr: http://armagetron.pastebin.com/m7c57b4a5
00:22 <smoothice> It does nothing at all
00:24 <smoothice> luke-jr: even with a RequestSync
00:27 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r911 Taught AI to really, really grind deeply.... || [armagetronad-v2sty] r878 Close to getting radius-based flag blinking working; next co... || [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r910 Don't be afraid of dead enemies.... || [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r909 Added randomized evaluator and cowardly evaluator that avoid... || [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r908 Further tweaking.... ||
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00:31 <epsy> @aawikis project dependency structure
00:32 <epsy> @ping
00:32 <epsy> useful bot
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00:33 <nsh22> #q
00:33 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #69: "gentoo ebuild is as broken as luke-jr himself :D ~xfroggy" (added by ct|kyle at 06:23 PM, January 26, 2008)
00:33 <epsy> @aawikis project dependency structure
00:33 <nsh22> try @aawiki
00:33 <epsy> it's loading
00:33 <teabot> epsy: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Project_Dependency_Structure - Project Dependency Structure - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
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00:34 <epsy> haha
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02:10 <luke-jr> ]later tell smoothice are you RequestSync-ing the shape?
02:10 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
02:19 <luke-jr> did anyone else notice Concord's fork is an entirely new import and not a branch off anything existing? :x
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02:30 <madmax> \o/
02:35 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r913 Re-added a rudimentary fortress AI logic.... || [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r912 Removed P-Turn path; instead, change the U-Turn to a P-Turn ...
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04:52 <smoothice> luke-jr: Yeah I am
04:53 <luke-jr> o i c
04:59 <smoothice> luke-jr: I just committed rev 880 but the flag blinking isn't working. Could you take a look: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-sty-0.3/armagetronad/armagetronad-v2sty/revision/880
05:00 <luke-jr> smoothice: not right now, sry
05:16 <smoothice> luke-jr: it blinks on 0.3 clients but not 0.2.8 clients (we think)
05:16 <smoothice> luke-jr: that's good and bad news
05:21 <luke-jr> 0.2.8 doesn't have alpha support
05:22 <luke-jr> smoothice: I'd ignore it for now and leave it as a 0.2.8 compatibility issue
05:22 <luke-jr> alpha=0 can be emulated by sending the sync with a 0 radius
05:25 <smoothice> luke-jr: Alright :)
05:31 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: what is the deal with an extra zone showing up after the fortress zone is collapsed
05:31 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: same zone
05:32 <luke-jr> it was there in 0.2.8, but never worked right, best I can tell
05:32 <ct|kyle> I don't think it should be there
05:33 <luke-jr> maybe not
05:33 <ct|kyle> I don't see a point in having it
05:33 <luke-jr> neither do I
05:33 <luke-jr> but I don't like to destroy things without knowing why they were created
05:35 <ct|kyle> should I hack zFort.cpp for the capturing of flag of should I look to see if it is in there? (if possible)
05:35 <luke-jr> …
05:35 <luke-jr> zFortress should not know anything about flags
05:36 <luke-jr> flags can be disabled, after all
05:37 <luke-jr> smoothice: enjoy
05:41 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r882 this should make alpha-blinking work with 0.2.8 clients || [armagetronad-v2sty] r881 merge from trunk || [armagetronad-zones-v1v2-invisible] r891 Transmit invisible zones as a 0 radius || [armagetronad-v2sty] r880 added some things I forgot on the last commit -- still doesn... || [armagetronad-v2sty] r879 more work at flag blinking with alpha instead of radius
06:02  * luke-jr hopes his new dev post doesn't turn into one of those 10 pages of discussion with no real work.
06:03 <luke-jr> dev forum post*
06:03 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: what you commented does not compile
06:03 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: o rly? why not? XD
06:04 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: http://rafb.net/p/Nzvv8s71.html
06:05 <luke-jr> o i c
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06:14 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: fixed the 2 bugs
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06:14 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: thanks :)
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06:15 <luke-jr> merged
06:18 <smoothice> luke-jr, ct|kyle: you guys are the best :) I mean it
06:19 <ct|kyle> smoothice: I'm about to push after a test
06:20 <smoothice> ct|kyle: ok
06:20 <ct|kyle> I think I have flag returned ready to go
06:20 <ct|kyle> at least to a point where you can finish it up
06:21 <smoothice> Alright
06:21 <smoothice> I'm just... amazed
06:21 <ct|kyle> then moving the flag from point a to b will be left
06:21 <smoothice> so
06:21 <smoothice> when gCycle dies
06:21 <smoothice> drop the flag
06:22 <ct|kyle> no returnHome
06:22 <ct|kyle> I think
06:22 <smoothice> oh
06:22 <smoothice> GoHome
06:22 <smoothice> or
06:22 <smoothice> no
06:22 <smoothice> it depends on the setting
06:25 <luke-jr> hm
06:25 <luke-jr> how do you detect when gCycle dies? :o
06:25 <luke-jr> what if he's respawned immediately?
06:26 <smoothice> add it to the gCycle code
06:26 <luke-jr> add what? ;)
06:26 <luke-jr> I think that kind of thing depends on epsy's eEvent system
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06:30 <luke-jr> smoothice: btw, the patch I just made was like 4 lines long :p
06:32 <smoothice> luke-jr: Lol
06:35 <ct|kyle> smoothice: I guess I don't quite have it as close as I thought
06:37 <smoothice> ct|kyle: k
06:37 <smoothice> #night
06:37 <@armabot> Good night smoothice!
06:38 <smoothice> #echo Remember folks, DST starts tonight!
06:38 <@armabot> Remember folks, DST starts tonight!
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06:43 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r883 merge invisible zone fixes || [armagetronad-zones-v1v2-invisible] r893 dealing with a Sync not a tColor.. || [armagetronad-zones-v1v2-invisible] r892 tFunction wants a slope always
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08:37 <luke-jr> ]later tell smoothice Just finished my first rewrite of BASE_RESPAWN and BASE_ENEMY_RESPAWN; second rewrite is planned to use zEffectors ☺
08:37 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
08:50 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-fortress-respawn] r891 fortress base respawning via BASE_RESPAWN and BASE_ENEMY_RES...
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12:47 <Lucifer> guru3: linear algebra in the US is taken after calculus
12:47 <Lucifer> at least, in my school it is
12:48 <Lucifer> wait, I might be thinking of something else
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14:03 <guru3> Lucifer: y=mx+b
14:03 <guru3> straight lines
14:03 <guru3> i was taught that in 8th grade
14:03 <guru3> which would effectively be algebra I
14:03 <guru3> then geometry
14:03 <guru3> then algebra II
14:03 <guru3> then pre-cal
14:03 <guru3> then calculus
14:03 <guru3> then statistics
14:03 <guru3> was the order i thought
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14:22 <Lucifer> guru3: ah, my understanding is that "linear algebra" is the first class in what's considered "higher math"
14:22 <Lucifer> so it introduces number theory, goes deep into matrices, and a few other things
14:23 <Lucifer> http://www3.austincc.edu/catalog/fy2009/descmath.htm#math2318
14:23 <Lucifer> math 2415, the prerequisite, is Calc 3, an introduction to vector calculus
14:27 <guru3> ah
14:27 <guru3> thinking about it too deep ><
14:28 <guru3> maybe i should have said 1st order polynomials then
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15:08 <epsy> vParser.cpp is generated right?
15:10 <smoothice> epsy: -.-
15:10 <epsy> smoothice, ?
15:10 <smoothice> epsy: why on earth do you think anyone but you would know
15:11 <epsy> because someone else than me made what used to build armagetron?
15:13 <joda_bot> epsy: The parser is generated yes
15:13 <joda_bot> epsy: I remember coding some batch script to make it work on windows
15:13 <epsy> bison right?
15:13 <joda_bot> epsy: good question, let's see if I got stale code lying around which might help me tell
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15:32 <PinkTomato> #ubuntu
15:32 <@armabot> sudo aptitude install bzr (or subversion) build-essential automake libboost-dev libxml2-dev libsdl-image1.2-dev libsdl-mixer1.2-dev ftgl-dev libglew-dev bison pkg-config autoconf autotools-dev
15:32 <epsy> joda_bot, ok, it seems to be bison
15:32 <epsy> now I wonder why FTGL won't link..
15:33 <epsy> there's -lftgl
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15:33 <joda_bot> epsy: yes it's bison
15:33 <joda_bot> sorry did not find the file I was looking for
15:33 <epsy> it's not flex :)
15:33 <Flex> ?
15:33 <joda_bot> there is a vParser.ypp (which is the input for bison)
15:33 <epsy> yeah, I got that to build
15:34 <smoothice> #dict bison
15:34 <@armabot> smoothice: gazetteer, foldoc, gcide, wn, moby-thes, and gaz-place responded: wn: bison n : any of several large shaggy-maned humped bovids having large heads and short horns; foldoc: Bison++ GNU's Yacc parser generator retargeted to C++ by Alain Coetmeur <coetmeur@icdc.fr>. Version 1.04. {(ftp://iecc.com/pub/file/bison++.tar.gz)}. {(ftp://iecc.com/pub/file/misc++.tar.gz)}. (10 more messages)
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15:59 <smoothice> PinkTomato: Pings are in the 200s on DD racing II... and I live two states away from it :P
16:04 <epsy> GRR, why isn't it building thirdpart libs?!
16:04 <epsy> thirsparty libs *
16:05 <joda_bot> epsy: it = linux gcc ? :D
16:05 <epsy> it being CMake/make
16:05 <epsy> ooo
16:06 <joda_bot> hm, afaik there has always been some dead code in the source tree ? :-P
16:08 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-cmake] r895 Builds up to libtron. Fails to link with FTGL and thirdparty... || [trunk-cmake] r894 Libnetwork builds. || [trunk-cmake] r893 Add CMakeCache to .bzrignore...
16:09 <epsy> nah, I expressedly marked them as link deps
16:17 <epsy> k..now wtf is with FTGL :S
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16:24 <PinkTomato> smoothice: could not find a problem
16:25 <guru3> woo!
16:25 <guru3> just hailed
16:26 <guru3> stood outside catching the hail & eating it
16:26 <guru3> poor mans snow cones :D
16:26 <ct|kyle> LOL
16:26 <guru3> on the flip side
16:26 <guru3> my fingers are pretty coldnow
16:26 <Lucifer> #math calc 114/2
16:26 <@armabot> Lucifer: 57
16:27 <akira_arma> #tea
16:27 <@armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
16:27 <guru3> might have eaten too much hail
16:27 <guru3> feel pretty funky now
16:27 <Lucifer> maybe you should've put some syrup in your mouth before you caught the hail?
16:28 <guru3> didn't have any syrup :<
16:28 <guru3> (they were REALLY poor man's snow cones)
16:29 <Lucifer> #math calc 57/2
16:29 <@armabot> Lucifer: 28.5
16:29 <guru3> my housemate came out while i was making and tossing hail balls with the stuff on the ground
16:29 <guru3> he looked at me pretty funny
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16:30 <epsy> I wonder if there was any special treatment for ftgl
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16:30 <z-man> Bah.
16:30 <epsy> it fails to link :<
16:30  * z-man was looking forward to seeing Godzilla vs King Kong
16:31 <z-man> and it's the American version :(
16:31 <epsy> is that bad?
16:31 <Lucifer> the american version sucks
16:31 <Lucifer> japanese version is much better
16:31 <z-man> There's this guy explaining everyting.
16:31 <Lucifer> actually, I don't remember if there's a japanese version of that one
16:31 <Lucifer> but king kong vs mothra was really badass
16:31 <z-man> Sure there is.
16:32 <Lucifer> grrrr, where's my scissors?
16:32 <epsy> if I tell g++ to -lftgl on an input of just "#include <FTGL/ftgl.h>", it won't even try to link FTGL will it?
16:32 <guru3> left top drawer of your desk Lucifer
16:33 <Lucifer> my fancy new juggling balls are peeling already, and I'd like to snag a pattern from them before they're too far gone so I can make more just like them
16:33 <z-man> epsy: no, you need to actually use one of the functions for a true linkage test.
16:33  * Lucifer doesn't have drawers on his desk
16:33 <epsy> how to I tell bash to put newlines in the middle of my commandline?
16:33 <guru3> well, no wonder you can't find then
16:35 <epsy> bah
16:35 <epsy> any easy to use FTGL symbol?
16:35 <guru3> look at the configure test for it
16:35 <Lucifer> what's wrong with the one configure already uses?
16:37 <epsy> $ g++ -I/usr/include/freetype2/ -fpermissive -lftgl -x c++ test.cpp
16:37 <epsy> /tmp/cc0OI1qB.o: In function `main':
16:37 <epsy> test.cpp:(.text+0x12): undefined reference to `ftglRenderGlyph()'
16:37 <epsy> meh
16:37 <Lucifer> means the test failed, eh?
16:37 <epsy> yeah
16:37 <guru3> wouldn't that imply it's not installed properly?
16:37 <guru3> (or some such)
16:38 <epsy> arma builds it, and pkg-config recognizes it
16:38 <smoothice> #seen luke-jr
16:39 <@armabot> smoothice: luke-jr was last seen in #armagetron 8 hours, 1 minute, and 45 seconds ago: <luke-jr> ]later tell smoothice Just finished my first rewrite of BASE_RESPAWN and BASE_ENEMY_RESPAWN; second rewrite is planned to use zEffectors ☺
16:39 <smoothice> luke-jr: we committed a crime... the modification of zFortress! *dun dun dunnnnnn*
16:39 <epsy> smoothice, if it needed to be modified, then it means it failed
16:40 <smoothice> ?
16:40 <epsy> the modification is a part of the road to make it fully effective
16:40 <smoothice> well
16:40 <epsy> ie. not needing to change it ever anymore
16:40 <smoothice> kyle added a function of zFortress
16:40 <smoothice> and made it a method in the header
16:40 <smoothice> and
16:40 <smoothice> luke-jr told me not to
16:40 <smoothice> w/e
16:41 <epsy> well, you should first try to do whatever you want to do without editing it
16:41 <epsy> if something is effectively lacking on zFortress, then add it
16:41 <smoothice> ok
16:41 <smoothice> well
16:41 <smoothice> It was the ability to check the owner team of zFortress from another class
16:42 <smoothice> of a zFortressZone, rather
16:42 <epsy> like, just moving from private to public?
16:42 <smoothice> no
16:42 <smoothice> It wasn't a method
16:42 <epsy> adding an Owner() method?
16:42 <smoothice> Ooooh
16:42 <smoothice> no
16:42 <smoothice> kyle did
16:42 <smoothice> tString getTeam(){return team->Name();}
16:42 <smoothice> added to header
16:42 <epsy> baaad
16:43 <smoothice> ct|kyle: ^ -.-
16:43 <guru3> what could you use that for?
16:43 <epsy> get team should return a TEAM
16:43 <epsy> not a team NAME
16:43 <smoothice> ooooo
16:43 <smoothice> right
16:43 <smoothice> so
16:43 <smoothice> return team
16:43 <smoothice> ;
16:43 <guru3> is team a pointer
16:43 <guru3> or an object?
16:43 <epsy> and change the signature
16:43 <guru3> if it's an object you'll need to return a pointer
16:43 <epsy> guru3, pointer, because of the ->
16:44 <guru3> good point
16:44 <epsy> :)
16:44 <smoothice> what do you mean change the signature
16:44 <guru3> otherwise it'd be , right?
16:44 <epsy>  .
16:44 <guru3> that's what i meant
16:44 <guru3> damn these mini keyboards
16:44 <epsy> ^^
16:44 <smoothice>   if(other->getTeam() == player->CurrentTeam()->Name()){
16:44 <guru3> and :: if you were calling it outside of the class
16:45 <smoothice> wow
16:45 <smoothice> now I'm confused by ->, ., and ::
16:45 <smoothice> I thought I understood it -.-
16:45 <guru3> all depends on where you stand and where you're looking
16:45 <epsy> :: accesses static members OR namespaces
16:46 <epsy> . accesses members
16:46 <guru3> ive never fully understood namespaces
16:46 <epsy> -> accesses members of a pointer
16:46 <epsy> (it's just . without you needing to * it)
16:46 <smoothice> yeah.. and the whole concept of pointers if iffy for me too
16:46 <smoothice> it links the memory together
16:46 <smoothice> or something?
16:46 <guru3> could you instead do (&pointer).member() ? ;)
16:46 <epsy> the operators for it are rather confusing
16:47 <epsy> guru3, not sure if it's not the opposite
16:47 <guru3> oh wait that should be *
16:47 <epsy> ah
16:47 <epsy> yeha
16:47 <guru3> & = address of
16:47 <guru3> * = dereference operator
16:47 <epsy> &* = undereference operator
16:47 <epsy> :o)
16:47 <guru3> Oo
16:48 <guru3> should &* just cancel out?
16:48 <guru3> like anti-matter and matter?
16:48 <smoothice> dereference pointer?
16:48 <smoothice> undeference?
16:48 <smoothice> wtf!!!
16:48 <smoothice> -.-
16:48 <guru3> have you ever read a novel smoothice?
16:48 <smoothice> Yeah
16:48 <guru3> know how there are page numbers?
16:48 <smoothice> Yeah
16:48 <guru3> those are like addresses
16:48 <smoothice> ok
16:49 <guru3> &(Chapter 1)
16:49 <smoothice> I see what you're saying
16:49 <guru3> would be the page number of chapter 1
16:50 <epsy> very good metaphor
16:50 <smoothice> epsy: so tString getTeam(){return team;}
16:50 <guru3> err!
16:50 <epsy> is team a tString? :)
16:50 <smoothice> instead of team->Name();?
16:50 <guru3> *eTeam getTeam
16:50 <smoothice> uh
16:50 <smoothice> no
16:50 <smoothice> eTeam
16:50 <epsy> noo
16:50 <smoothice> *?
16:50 <epsy> poinnter to eTeam
16:50 <guru3> *eTeam getTeam(){return team;}
16:50 <smoothice> eTeam * getTeam(){return team;}
16:50 <epsy> so, say that it is a pointer: eTeam* getTeam
16:50 <epsy> yeah
16:50 <smoothice> does it matter where the * goes/
16:50 <guru3> whoops got my * in the wrong place
16:51 <guru3> i'm not sure actually -_-
16:51 <smoothice> yeah
16:51 <smoothice> :/
16:51 <epsy> also, think of * as "this is a pointer"
16:51 <smoothice> ok
16:51 <smoothice> so what is the & for
16:51 <guru3> int * test = & something;
16:51 <guru3> read & as "address of"
16:51 <guru3> int * test = & something; -> the integer test is a pointer containing the address of something;
16:51 <epsy> & is either "gimme pointer" either "gimme reference"
16:52 <smoothice> so a pointer refers to a reference/
16:52 <smoothice> ?
16:52 <epsy> these are pretty much opposites
16:52 <epsy> a pointer points to a space in your memory
16:52 <wrtlprnft> pointers and references are the same, really, they're just handled differently :x
16:52 <smoothice> ...
16:52 <epsy> a reference is when you have the hold over the original object
16:52 <wrtlprnft> references are pointers that try to look like objects
16:55 <wrtlprnft> the big difference is that once you initialized a reference you can't change the spot it points to
17:00 <guru3> now i'm confused too :/
17:00 <guru3> back to php
17:00 <epsy> hehe
17:00 <guru3> and javascript
17:00 <guru3> good ol' dissertation
17:00 <guru3> where the work isn't in the programming
17:01 <guru3> but the rather sketchy theory i've developed on what constitutes valid data
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17:03 <wrtlprnft> still beats java
17:04 <guru3> java... is one of those languages that tries to be too clever i think
17:04 <wrtlprnft> public void foo(int i, String s) {}
17:05 <guru3> private
17:05 <guru3> and the 3 inbetween
17:05 <wrtlprnft> who would, without reading tons of docs, guess that i is a by-value parameter and s is a reference?
17:05 <guru3> i never knew that
17:05 <wrtlprnft> everything is a reference except the basic numeric types
17:05 <guru3> and if that means what i think it does, that's crazy
17:06 <wrtlprnft> public void foo(int i, String s) {i = 1; s = "hi";}
17:06 <wrtlprnft> int i = 5; String s = ""; foo(i, s); // i is still 5, but s is "hi"
17:07 <wrtlprnft> even (in c) 0[somePointer] is more understandable to me
17:08 <epsy> rofl
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17:11 <ct|kyle> yes I knew it was bad, I just was too lazy to figure out the right santax
17:11 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r885 getTeam should return the eTeam itself, not its name || [armagetronad-v2sty] r884 Setting up for flag to be taken home || [trunk-cmake] r896 scrap builds and links. FTGL still bugging me....
17:14 <epsy> gaaah..
17:14 <dlh> wrtlprnft: that's not correct. You can't point the reference to a new object in Java.
17:16 <dlh> they call it passing a reference by value
17:18 <wrtlprnft> err, sorry
17:18 <wrtlprnft> haven't done java in some time
17:19 <wrtlprnft> subsitute the String by an array
17:19 <wrtlprnft> and then change a member of that array
17:20 <wrtlprnft> *an element, to be more correct
17:22 <dlh> Right, you can modify the object (or array), but you can't point it to a new object.
17:23 <epsy> http://armagetronad.pastebin.com/m2f5e1ccb
17:23 <epsy> any idea?
17:23 <dlh> link to freetype?
17:24 <wrtlprnft> you can point it to a new object, but the calling function won't notice :-)
17:25 <dlh> right :)
17:26 <epsy> dlh, very good idea
17:26 <dlh> #bye
17:26 <@armabot> Goodbye dlh :(
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17:28 <epsy> woot, that's a client! :D
17:28 <wrtlprnft> ?
17:29 <epsy> wrtlprnft, getting arma to build with cmake :)
17:29 <wrtlprnft> oh, sweet!
17:30 <epsy> hehe
17:30 <epsy> so far I got it to build clients that don't know where to find their data :>
17:30 <wrtlprnft> should have looked a little more closely at that pastebin post
17:30 <epsy> indeed :)
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18:15 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-cmake] r897 Client builds but doesn't find it's data....
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18:41 <epsy> zmanuel, was it possible to run arma from an outsourced build?
18:42 <zmanuel> sure.
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18:42 <epsy> how did it do that?
18:42 <epsy> did it just copy files?
18:43 <z-man> no, it read them from the source directory.
18:43 <z-man> Apart from the resources.
18:43 <epsy> hrm, but how did it build language/languages.txt without touching the source dir?
18:44 <z-man> Ah, those were of course built in the build directory.
18:44 <Pathetique> #ls PhD
18:45 <smoothice> #ls epsy
18:45 <epsy> hmm
18:45 <@armabot> Pathetique: timed out
18:45 <@armabot> smoothice: epsy has last been seen on Fortress Café 9 minutes ago.
18:45 <smoothice> Café :P
18:45 <Pathetique> so if he times out
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18:45 <Pathetique> It means he can't find entries on him?
18:45 <smoothice> yep
18:45 <epsy> z-man, what to do then? write in the source directory? :/
18:45 <Pathetique> FFS.
18:45 <z-man> No, all writes go to the build directory.
18:46 <epsy> so what will I do with language/languages.txt then?
18:46 <epsy> just let arma not run from an outsourced build?
18:47 <z-man> well, yeah.
18:48 <epsy> Pathetique, #help lastseen
18:48 <epsy> Pathetique, visit that URL with the correct player name
18:48 <epsy> Pathetique, it won't time out
18:48 <Pathetique> kk
18:49 <akira_arma> #tea
18:49 <@armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (13/32): + noobSaibot, +|SmOoThice~NW, .dBd|Pathetique, Concord, CTxGonZaP, cT¬speedmaster, FLP|RAM, Monkey.D.Luffy, NoChat, NüMb3r$, patelni, Pdfef, Zephyr
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18:53 <Pathetique> #ls qp.acid
18:53 <@armabot> Pathetique: timed out
18:53 <Pathetique> ffs
18:55 <epsy> GID queries are usually way faster
18:55 <Pathetique> Indeed.
18:55 <epsy> so use them when you can
18:55 <Pathetique> #help aka
18:56 <@armabot> Pathetique: (aka <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "web fetch [format concat http://ratings.armagetronad.net/aka.php?slashes=1&name=[urlquote @1]]".
18:58 <P4> .42 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioVEt9CZpi4
18:58 <P4> d'oh, wrong channel
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18:59 <Pathetique> GodTodd: How do you like the FiOS?
19:19 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r886 flag home returns and stuff
19:19 <luke-jr> also, IIRC, tString is being phased out
19:20 <epsy> luke-jr, talking to me?
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19:22 <luke-jr> I think the current zone ownership setup is broken
19:23 <luke-jr> Zones v2 has a concept of owners and owner teams, but zFortress doesn't use it I think
19:24 <epsy> by the way have my commits about tTrueVersion.h/.cpp been fully reverted?
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19:25 <epsy> seems like it
19:26 <smoothice> luke-jr: tString phaseout?
19:26 <smoothice> luke-jr: replace with what?
19:26 <luke-jr> standard C++ string
19:26 <smoothice> NO WAY!
19:26 <luke-jr> …
19:26 <epsy> std::string
19:26 <smoothice> std::string?
19:26 <smoothice> NO WAY!
19:26 <epsy> yes way
19:26 <luke-jr> why not?
19:26 <smoothice> because
19:26 <smoothice> there is no way
19:26 <smoothice> arma could possibly
19:26 <epsy> indeed, why not?
19:26 <smoothice> use standard stuff
19:26 <luke-jr> …
19:27 <smoothice> no way
19:27 <smoothice> that's like
19:27 <luke-jr> fine
19:27 <smoothice> revolutionary
19:27 <smoothice> ?
19:27 <luke-jr> then we need to port to Qt
19:27 <smoothice> ?
19:27 <epsy> fuck no
19:27 <luke-jr> LOL
19:27 <epsy> we already have boost in the works so QT ..
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19:38 <luke-jr> [ 47%] Built target kdontchangethehostname
19:38 <luke-jr> wtf is this crap
19:38 <luke-jr> <.<
19:39 <epsy> O_o?
19:39 <epsy> that's not from me lol
19:39 <epsy> what target is that from?
19:39 <luke-jr> kdelibs
19:40 <epsy> OH
19:40 <epsy> bugger you, I thought it was from trunk-cmake
19:40 <luke-jr> that exists? :O
19:40 <epsy> yeah, I'm working on it
19:40 <epsy> https://code.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/trunk-cmake
19:41 <luke-jr> why? :x
19:41 <epsy> autotools gets on my nerves :<
19:41 <luke-jr> mine too, but does cmake really improve?
19:41 <epsy> yeah, it is quite clearer
19:41 <luke-jr> autotools takes care of a lot of nice things, like cross-compiling
19:41 <epsy> and easier to add new stuff
19:42 <luke-jr> hum
19:42 <luke-jr> well, who needs cross-compiling anyhow? :D
19:42 <luke-jr> I'm not sure that actually works for Arma right now anyhow
19:42 <epsy> well, you can't cross-compile with current setup anyway >.>
19:44 <luke-jr> good luck :D
19:48 <epsy> heh
19:48 <epsy> well, it builds a client already
19:49 <epsy> just need to find out what AT called for scripts to move stuff around and I'll soon have a working client
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20:11 <luke-jr> epsy: any chance it builds a client and server without clobbering each other's .o files?
20:12 <epsy> one of my goals
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20:24 <mkzelda> #weather 27545
20:25 <@armabot> mkzelda: The current temperature in Hedingham, Raleigh, North Carolina is 79.2°F (3:24 PM EDT on March 08, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 26%. Dew Point: 41.0°F. Pressure: 29.00 in 981.9 hPa (Falling).
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21:27 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r888 Fixed server crash due to Timestep issue || [armagetronad-v2sty] r887 Drop the flag when the cycle dies...and other various things...
21:39 <akira_arma_> #tea
21:40 <@armabot> akira_arma_: Fortress Café: Players (7/32): 'rope, -»|hoop, 5up3rM4r10, bubblesjs, JP°Sandtrap, Spencer, ThreeKeys
21:40 <smoothice> #seen hoop
21:41 <@armabot> smoothice: hoop was last seen in #armagetron 4 weeks, 0 days, 1 hour, 46 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <hoop> bad idea
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21:54 <guru3> can anyone recommend a mobile phone?
21:55 <smoothice> yes
21:55 <epsy> for what kind of use?
21:55 <guru3> quad/tri band international calls
21:55 <guru3> no wifi or mp3 player
21:55 <smoothice> gsm?
21:55 <guru3> yes
21:55 <epsy> just phone + SMS gsm?
21:55 <guru3> 3g
21:55 <epsy> ah
21:55 <epsy> hmm
21:55 <guru3> 2.5g
21:55 <guru3> edge
21:55 <guru3> the works
21:55 <smoothice> iPhone :)
21:56 <epsy> well, I would have suggested the nokia 1600 if you didn't put this constraint
21:56 <ct|kyle> guru3: no wifi or mp3 player
21:56 <ct|kyle> so smoothice how is iphone in that resrtiction
21:56 <guru3> smoothice: you're the 2nd person to say iphone
21:56 <smoothice> well
21:56 <smoothice> why is it a restriction
21:56 <ct|kyle> ivantis2 would say G1
21:57 <smoothice> Android is crap in a hole :D
21:57 <epsy> android looks good
21:57 <smoothice> LOOKS
21:57 <smoothice> app store
21:57 <epsy> the phone seems to suck
21:57 <smoothice> $3 minimum price
21:57 <guru3> i wouldn't really _mind_ wifi and mp3 player
21:57 <guru3> but i'll never use them
21:57 <smoothice> iPhone
21:57 <epsy> smoothice, why would I pay for everything I need on my phone?
21:57 <smoothice> you don't have to pay for an mp3 player
21:57 <smoothice> -.-
21:58 <epsy> also
21:58 <epsy> http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/LoChjdTYTRs/article.pl
21:58 <smoothice> so?
21:59 <epsy> REALLY closed distribution scheme ftl
21:59 <epsy> (and nokia's/symbian's isn't much better tbh)
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21:59 <Lizmatic> symbian, isn't that the toy you want BabyBug? xD
22:00 <epsy> symbian is an operating system you can find on many many phones
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22:01 <epsy> I can't really think of any tri/quad that only does phone&sms
22:02 <epsy> why do you only want tri or quad ?
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22:03 <guru3> because i ay wind up in the US in two or three years
22:03 <guru3> and i may visit sooner than that
22:03 <epsy> er, they don't have GSM anymore?
22:03 <ivantis2> no android is great
22:03 <ivantis2> app store? what shit
22:03 <ivantis2> Android Market
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22:04 <guru3> the US uses gsm 850 and 1900
22:04 <guru3> while EU uses 900 and 1800
22:05 <ivantis2> what about other continents/countries?
22:05 <ivantis2> canada/mexico/mid-americas are on the US one?
22:05 <guru3> i think so
22:05 <guru3> most everywhere in the world has some form of GSM though
22:05 <guru3> the US used to be very big though on CDMA
22:05 <guru3> they're big on some other sort of DMA now though
22:06 <ivantis2> isnt GSM that stuff that it says isnt in hot dogs?
22:06 <guru3> but cingular and at&t brought up the gsm network
22:06 <BabyBug> Lizmatic >.<
22:07 <epsy> well, there's this phone which I used until some months ago:
22:07 <epsy> http://shop.nokia.co.uk/nokia-uk/product.aspx?sku=3607397&section_id=530&culture=en-GB
22:07 <ivantis2> android is an operating system that is very good and that you need to buy a phone running
22:08 <guru3> because for example, it runs like crap on an openmoko
22:08 <guru3> because it's hard coded for the stupid scroll thingy
22:08 <epsy> trying to use a touchscreen OS on a non-touchscreen phone huh?
22:08 <guru3> the openmoko is touch screen
22:09 <guru3> the thing is it doesn't have a keyboard
22:09 <epsy> yeah
22:09 <epsy> the G1 has both
22:09 <guru3> yeah
22:09 <guru3> and i would be interested too
22:09 <guru3> if the screen didn't move like it did
22:09 <guru3> shit like that _breaks_
22:10 <epsy> how does it move?
22:10 <guru3> the G1 screen slides sideways on two arms
22:10 <guru3> to reveal the keyboard
22:10 <epsy> like, it rises up?
22:10 <guru3> no
22:10 <guru3> it goes sideways
22:10 <guru3> parallel movement
22:10 <epsy> yeah
22:10 <epsy> what's wrong with this?
22:11 <guru3> it moves.
22:11 <epsy> it doesn't stay in place?
22:11 <guru3> no
22:11 <epsy> or you just don't like sliders
22:11 <guru3> it's not sliding
22:11 <guru3> there's no track or rail
22:11 <guru3> or any guide
22:11 <guru3> you could slide it to the side and then wrip it off
22:12 <guru3> because the leverage is there
22:12 <epsy> r...r..really???
22:12 <guru3> that was my impression from playing with it at the t-mobile store
22:12 <epsy> but...how did HTC sell suck a thing?!
22:12 <epsy> such *
22:13 <ivantis2> dude
22:13 <guru3> i don't know
22:13 <epsy> well, in the same style there's one of the LG phones
22:13 <ivantis2> you is needing a G1
22:13 <ivantis2> i love it!
22:13 <epsy> it has an on screen numpad plus a side-keyboard
22:13 <ct|kyle> told you guru3 :P
22:13 <ivantis2> on screen numpad?
22:14 <guru3> a keyboard might be handy
22:14 <ivantis2> oh yeah in the dialer application
22:14 <guru3> but like
22:14 <epsy> let me find that link
22:14 <guru3> i want a candy bar of decent proportions
22:14 <ivantis2> vodafone has some deal for a new one without the keyboard
22:15 <epsy> http://uk.lge.com/products/model/detail/mobilephones_ks360.jhtml
22:15 <epsy> well, 6300 would do
22:15 <epsy> it looks really good
22:16 <epsy> no keyboard though, and screen gets full of dust
22:16 <guru3> the thing is right
22:16 <guru3> i don't really use my phone very much
22:16 <guru3> i use my 770 and ipod a lot more
22:16 <guru3> it's just i need the 3g quad band
22:17 <epsy> well, at worst you'd buy it in the US
22:17 <guru3> the nokia e66 doesn't look too bad
22:18 <guru3> the things are too thin
22:18 <guru3> i need short and stocky
22:18 <guru3> so i can keep track of where it is
22:18 <ivantis2> just buy a G1
22:19 <epsy> well, it's 295 in UK
22:19 <epsy> £
22:19 <epsy> http://shop.nokia.co.uk/nokia-uk/product.aspx?sku=3886745&culture=en-GB
22:19 <ivantis2> really?
22:19 <epsy> but has s60, so multithreading&co
22:19 <guru3> could possibly get it cheaper in sweden
22:20 <epsy> http://shop.nokia.se/nokia-se/product.aspx?sku=3873221&culture=sv-SE
22:20 <epsy> #g 4195 kr in £
22:20 <@armabot> epsy: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:20 <epsy> #g 4195 kr in pounds
22:20 <@armabot> epsy: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:21 <guru3> #g 4195 sek in gbp
22:21 <@armabot> guru3: 4195 Swedish kronor = 323.504134 British pounds
22:21 <guru3> #g 4195 / 1.25
22:21 <@armabot> guru3: 4,195 / 1.25 = 3,356
22:21 <guru3> #g 3356 sek in gbp
22:21 <@armabot> guru3: 3356 Swedish kronor = 258.803307 British pounds
22:21 <guru3> that's more like it
22:21 <epsy> I however don't see where the menu keys are
22:22 <guru3> i hate these new sorts of phones
22:22 <guru3> i want the new hardware with the old OS
22:22 <guru3> give me make 4 greyscale
22:22 <epsy> why?
22:22 <guru3> *back
22:22 <eddiefantastic> hi! can anyone help me with building the trunk client from source on ubuntu?
22:22 <epsy> multithreading is damn great
22:23 <guru3> ive been using the same phone for the last 3 years
22:23 <guru3> a T68i circa 2001
22:23 <eddiefantastic> ./protoc: error while loading shared libraries: li.protobuf.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
22:23 <guru3> well, the T68 is circa 2001
22:23 <epsy> like, switch from the IRC client to the webbrowser while listening to music
22:23 <guru3> the T68i is a bit later
22:23 <eddiefantastic> that seems to be the root of my problem
22:23 <epsy> eddiefantastic, idn't protobuf in the repos?
22:24 <guru3> i don't particularly want a phone that makes a statement
22:24 <ivantis2> did you know that i am swedish?
22:24 <eddiefantastic> protobuf-2.0.3 has been installed from source
22:24 <guru3> no
22:26 <epsy> you need to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH, run ldconfig, or make symlinks
22:26 <ivantis2> im also like a quarter italian
22:26 <eddiefantastic> epsy: if it is in the repos I couldn't find it
22:27 <epsy> guru3, http://shop.nokia.co.uk/nokia-uk/product.aspx?sku=3893519&culture=en-GB
22:27 <guru3> stocky in the wrong direction
22:27 <epsy> eddiefantastic, so you installed it in /usr/local/ ?
22:28 <eddiefantastic> ldconfig seemed to do the trick, it seems to be on its way...
22:28 <epsy> always run ldconfig after installing libs, like they told you to :)
22:29 <eddiefantastic> you mean rtfm? Never!
22:29 <BabyBug> protobuf is in the repos :s libprotobuf-dev and protobuf-compiler
22:29 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r889 Fixed crash when player holding flag disconnects
22:31 <eddiefantastic> BabyBug: not in 8.04 it aint. I had to build ftgl by hand also, mine was out of date
22:32 <BabyBug> oh =x
22:32 <eddiefantastic> I had a couple of bad experiences with 8.10, namely that annoying network manager thing. Back on 8.04 now
22:34 <BabyBug> hey!! arn't you the welsh guy?!
22:34 <guru3> i hate network manager
22:34 <guru3> a lot
22:34 <eddiefantastic> yeah, I'm still afraid to reboot my server :S
22:34 <eddiefantastic> BabyBug: yeah! Hi!
22:35 <BabyBug> ooooo HI! :D
22:35 <eddiefantastic> And I'm sure there's others ;)
22:35 <smoothice> eddiefantastic: why are you afraid? scared of 8.10 woes you had before?
22:35 <epsy> grmm, what used to produce tUniversalVariables.h.in ?
22:36 <eddiefantastic> It has trouble saving network configs
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22:37 <BabyBug> eddiefantastic, none that i know of ='(
22:38 <eddiefantastic> Well, it works! I think I need to upgrade my graphics drivers
22:38 <smoothice> z-man: do you have any possible idea about this problem I'm having? -> if I make a flag zone and in one of the methods I set the alpha to 50 , it acts like it sets it to 0 instead of 75
22:38 <smoothice> on a percentage scake
22:38 <smoothice> scale*
22:40 <z-man> nope.
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22:59 <nsh22> hey hey hey
22:59 <smoothice> hi
22:59 <smoothice> #q
22:59 <@armabot> smoothice: Quote #54: "<Lucifer_arma> nah, he disappeared. I think God is dead." (added by GodTodd at 05:48 PM, August 10, 2007)
23:00 <epsy> BabyBug, what version of CMake do you have on ubuntu?
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23:01 <BabyBug>   Ymgeisydd: 2.6.2-1ubuntu1
23:01 <epsy> ty
23:01 <epsy> is that ROT1 ?!
23:01 <epsy> orn ot
23:01 <BabyBug> what?!
23:02 <epsy> nm
23:14 <smoothice> z-man: k
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23:22 <ivantis2> onoloht: ab, vg'f EBG2
23:22 <ivantis2> wow
23:23 <ivantis2> i have an amazing name
23:23 <ivantis2> ivan in rot13 is vina
23:23 <ivantis2> it contains all of the original letters, rearranged
23:24 <BabyBug> Ohhhh now i get epsy's question...
23:24 <BabyBug> ty ivantis2, you were actually useful for once..what a shocker
23:24 <BabyBug> and erm epsy, no... Ymgeisydd is welsh you bewb! :P
23:25 <epsy> lol!
23:26 <ivantis2> i was helpful?
23:26 <ivantis2> by what?
23:32 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r892 This should make flags follow the cycle || [armagetronad-v2sty] r891 misc. fixes || [armagetronad-v2sty] r890 attempt at the flag following the cycle || [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r914 Very basic tailchasing ability. Doesn't work properly yet....
23:35 <BabyBug> fortress ai broked again ='(
23:36 <fonkay> troll alert.
23:37 <nsh22> where?
23:37 <ivantis2> THERE! TROLL!
23:37 <fonkay> forums.
23:37 <fonkay> oh... and me
23:37 <ivantis2> ~ping
23:37 <The_Master> pong
23:37 <fonkay> forgot about myself
23:37 <nsh22> whos da troll?
23:38  * ct|kyle pokes BabyBug gently with a very sharp knife 
23:38 <ivantis2> ttech's bot?
23:38 <ivantis2> ow
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23:40 <fonkay> bioman? whoever that is. He's made a few random posts before, nothing worth mentioning.
23:40 <nsh22> how is he trolling?
23:41 <ivantis2> by being reported
23:41 <nsh22> #google 8 of march
23:41 <@armabot> nsh22: Search took 0.11 seconds: International Women's Day - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Women's_Day>; March 8 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_8>; About International Women's Day 2009: <http://www.internationalwomensday.com/about.asp>; International Women's Day 2009: (2 more messages)
23:42 <fonkay> you could... you know reading it yourself
23:43 <ivantis2> &google 4 of november
23:43 <nsh22> psht
23:43 -!- ivantis2 is now known as ivansbot
23:43 <nsh22> FAILBOT
23:43  * fonkay should not watch tv, eat and irc at the same time...
23:43 <nsh22> lol
23:43 <fonkay> her sentences do not make much sense.
23:45 <epsy> ivansbot, ping
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23:45 <ivantis2> ??
23:45 <epsy> ivantis2, ping
23:45 <ivantis2> it wouldnt let me change nicks while i was here
23:45 <ivantis2> epsy: pong
23:46 <epsy> ok that's not a bot
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00:00 <nsh22> #q\
00:00 <nsh22> #q
00:01 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #71: "<Monkey_arma> to be fair the mess the wiki is in, i cant tell spam from actual content" (added by noob7 at 10:50 PM, April 14, 2008)
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00:10 <luke-jr> z-man: I think your ideas w/ polynomial stuff are over my head ☺
00:11 <z-man> But you do know fourier series?
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00:11 <z-man> (I have to apologize, I was pretty vague in my explanations. I should write more detail some other time.)
00:18 <luke-jr> no idea what that is
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00:22 <nsh22> power outtage
00:22 <nsh22> ]a
00:22 <ljrbot> nsh22: There's no game here.
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00:35 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r915 Improved tailchasing....
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03:50 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r917 More refinements. Dammit, this is work.... || [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r916 Still better tailchasing. Got to get rid of those suicides, ...
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04:45 <luke-jr> do fortress AI know how to hole yet?
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08:09 <epsy> luke-jr, "know" is a vague word
08:09 <epsy> bbl
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09:02 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-cmake] r898 Structure for tUniversalVariables.h...
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11:35 <zmanuel> BabyBug: yeah, it's work in progress. If you look at the code, you'll notice that the grinding AI is empty right now, waiting to be adapted to the new logic.
11:39 <BabyBug> zmanuel, Did i ask a question that i forgot about....or was that in reply to a comment i made? =\
11:39 <BabyBug> And good morning :)
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12:16 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r919 less reckless rubber wasting.... || [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r918 concentration logic now makes more sense....
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13:08 <ALIEFE> SLM ARKILER
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15:16 <eddiefantastic> guru3: is it just me or is "View posts since last visit" broken on the forums?
15:18 <guru3> just you
15:23 <eddiefantastic> guru3: http://pastebin.com/m2be0fbf0 <-- that's the error if you're interested
15:23 <guru3> hmm
15:24 <guru3> works fine for me
15:24 <eddiefantastic> logging out and back in seems to have fixed it
15:24 <guru3> i think you may just have been unlucky
15:24 <eddiefantastic> seems ok. it's ok now
15:25 <eddiefantastic> *seems so
15:25 <guru3> ok
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18:16 <BabyBug> \o!
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18:39 <Concord> #si cafe
18:39 <@armabot> Concord: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “cafe” at the moment, sorry.
18:39 <BabyBug> #cafe
18:39 <@armabot> BabyBug: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “cafe” at the moment, sorry.
18:40 <BabyBug> i just left there! there is so a server matching it
18:40 <madmax> it was all your imagination
18:41 <BabyBug> like your life!
18:41 <madmax> aww
18:42 <BabyBug> ^^
18:42 <BabyBug> #n9
18:42 <@armabot> BabyBug: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (0/16):
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20:03 <nsh22> herro peoples
20:07 <madmax> greets
20:08 <nsh22> :P
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20:24 <Concord> cafe time
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20:32 <Concord> #si cafe
20:32 <@armabot> Concord: Fortress Café: Players (4/32): Ct_Concord, Ww_Compguygene (compguygene@forums), _-'Ww_Arctic, ~|DS|~biZz
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20:58 <Concord> #si cafe
20:58 <@armabot> Concord: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
20:58 <Concord> :(
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21:45 <Concord> #si cafe
21:45 <@armabot> Concord: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
21:45 <Concord> :(
21:53 <epsy> erm, is there a python module to handle commandline arguments?
21:53 <ct|kyle> epsy: for python to execute shell commands?
21:54 <epsy> no, for me to handle something like blah/myscript.py -o someFile easier
21:54 <BabyBug>  OptionParser
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21:55 <epsy> where do I find docs for this?
21:55 <BabyBug> http://docs.python.org/library/optparse.html
21:56 <ct|kyle> dam and I built my own LOL
21:56 <epsy> fail
21:57 <ct|kyle> success it worked and it took very little time
22:00 <Concord> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=204543
22:00 <Concord> wups
22:01 <Lizmatic> nerd
22:02 <BabyBug> >.<
22:02  * Lizmatic hugs her nerd
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22:02 <BabyBug> go eat gone off boiled cheese whore
22:03  * ct|kyle while (1 == 1){stabs BabyBug;}
22:04 <Lizmatic> she loves me
22:04 <Lizmatic> I love her too, even though she's an ol' nerd.
22:04 <Lizmatic> xD
22:04 <ct|kyle> I think that killed her :)
22:04 <BabyBug> :| That's not even funny!
22:05 <epsy> for ( unsigned short i = 255; i >= 0; i-- ){ Stab(BabyBug); }
22:06 <epsy> DANGIT I've heard enough about options
22:06 <BabyBug> lol?
22:06 <epsy> it's repeating itself over and over and over
22:06 <epsy> YAY ARGUMENTS
22:07 <BabyBug> just skip the the code.....it's simple to use, don't need to read about it!
22:07 <epsy> there's close to nothing about arguments until 60% of the page >.>
22:08 <epsy> darn is there a damn plain reference >.>
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22:45 <epsy> errr
22:46 <epsy> how do I get both member name and value from a dict using "for .. in .." ?
22:46 <epsy> for (var,val) in mydict: gives an error
22:47 <BabyBug> for key, value in dict:
22:47 <epsy> ValueError: too many values to unpack
22:48 <epsy> print myDict shows what you would expect:
22:48 <epsy> {'ZNR': 0, 'BRANCHURL': '', 'REVNO': 0, 'CHANGED': True, 'BUILDDATE': 'Mon, 09 Mar 2009 22:44:19 +0000', 'BRANCHLCA': 0, 'REVTAG': '', 'BRANCHLCAZ': 0, 'REVID': 0, 'BRANCHNICK': ''}
22:49 <BabyBug> ermm
22:49 <BabyBug> oh yeh silly me
22:49 <BabyBug> for key, value in dict.iteritems()
22:49 <epsy> ah right
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22:50 <BabyBug> that might of changed to just items() in 2.6..i'm not sure
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22:55 <Vanhayes> anyone know where the area code 1 505 is from?
23:14 <ct|kyle> #google Area code 1 505
23:14 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Search took 0.11 seconds: 1 - 505 area code - reported phone numbers in area code 505: <http://www.callferret.com/area-codes/505-area-code.html>; Area code 505 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_code_505>; Reported numbers in 1 - 505 area code: <http://800notes.com/AreaCode.aspx/1-505>; FINAL PHASE OF 505 /575 AREA CODE SPLIT TO BEGIN OCTOBER 5, (3 more messages)
23:19 <Vanhayes> ah thanks, its new mexico
23:20 <Vanhayes> they said i won a trip to cancun mexico if i had a credit card
23:22 <Lizmatic> who'd wanna go to mexico? it has mexicans in it
23:22 <Vanhayes> ha, racism!
23:22 <Vanhayes> the universal comedy
23:22 <Lizmatic> racism is my trademark
23:23 <Vanhayes> meh cancun would be nice right now, 3 feet of snow here
23:23 <Lizmatic> snow! I love snow!
23:23 <Vanhayes> not when it comes down 2 feet at a time and you have to shovel it
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23:24 <Vanhayes> then the freezing rain comes down and that 3 feet of fluffy snow turns into 2 feet of solid ice
23:25 <Lizmatic> awesome!
23:25 <Vanhayes> and all you can do is look into the sky say Fuck you, then start chipping away
23:26 <Vanhayes> oh canada our home and native land...
23:26 <ct|kyle> #quote get 72
23:26 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Quote #72: "epsy puts himself in the middle and eats it.  --epsy" (added by Lucifer_arma at 12:48 AM, July 28, 2008)
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23:29 <Vanhayes> #quote get 88
23:29 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #88: "Flex: you start your grind at the zone, by the time you get to the split it's weak, not to mention the guy is burning the same rubber.." (added by madmax at 01:15 AM, January 31, 2009)
23:30 <epsy> $ ./armagetronad --version
23:30 <epsy> This is armagetronad version TRUE_ARMAGETRONAD_VERSION.
23:30 <madmax> where's that BabyBug quote...
23:30 <epsy> I'll need to find out how to add quotes where needed at python-level :<
23:30 <epsy> #list quote
23:30 <@armabot> epsy: add, change, get, random, remove, search, and stats
23:30 <epsy> #quote search BabyBug
23:30 <@armabot> epsy: 2 found: #87: "<BabyBug> the thought of rabbit teeth near my..." and #90: "WoW is the game of satanists! -- BabyBug"
23:31 <madmax> #quote get 87
23:31 <@armabot> madmax: Quote #87: "<BabyBug> the thought of rabbit teeth near my clit is in no way sexy" (added by Lucifer_arma at 04:58 AM, January 18, 2009)
23:31 <epsy> right, back to python strings, right
23:31 <BabyBug> what are you doing epsy? :P
23:31 <epsy> how do I check if something is a string?
23:32 <epsy> BabyBug, writing a batch/make/version.py template
23:32 <epsy> so arma builds without cheats
23:32 <BabyBug> ooo
23:32 <epsy> making it effective is another task :(
23:32 <ct|kyle> #quote search lightning
23:32 <@armabot> ct|kyle: 1 found: #81: "GodTodd: that lightning is just God aiming for..."
23:33 <epsy> haha
23:34 <ct|kyle> #quote get 81
23:34 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Quote #81: "GodTodd: that lightning is just God aiming for luke-jr and missing" (added by ct|kyle at 07:50 AM, August 05, 2008)
23:34 <BabyBug> oh epsy erm.. type()
23:34 <epsy> then..?
23:35 <Vanhayes> #quote search pedo
23:35 <@armabot> Vanhayes: 1 found: #21: "<Luke-Jr_work__> btw, pedophile is good"
23:35 <Lizmatic> PEDOBEAR SEAL OF APROVAL
23:35 <Vanhayes> #quote search liz
23:35 <BabyBug> epsy, if type(var) == str:...blah?
23:35 <@armabot> Vanhayes: 2 found: #31: "<Fonkay> #eliza you are stupid <armabot>..." and #83: "<Lizmatic> wtfzomg ady-lucifer and lucifer..."
23:35 <epsy> ok
23:35 <Lizmatic> #quote search Lizmatic
23:35 <Lizmatic> o_O
23:35 <@armabot> Lizmatic: 1 found: #83: "<Lizmatic> wtfzomg ady-lucifer and lucifer..."
23:35 <ct|kyle> #quote get 31
23:36 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Quote #31: "<Fonkay> #eliza you are stupid <armabot> Fonkay: Why do you say i are stupid?" (added by Vanhayes at 01:05 AM, November 02, 2006)
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23:37 <nsh22> herro
23:38 <nsh22> !loli rape guest7700
23:38 <epsy> DARN
23:38 <nsh22> oops, wrong channel
23:38 <epsy> python wants True and C++ wants true
23:38 <Vanhayes> rape him good
23:38 <nsh22> Vanhayes: i was beaten...
23:38 <nsh22> #anime
23:39 <BabyBug> epsy, and?
23:39 <epsy> and that's annoying
23:39 <Vanhayes> you tride to rape someon and got beat?
23:39 <nsh22> nsh22 attempts to fight for guest7700's lolis, but nsh22 is stopped by the defenses! nsh22 lost 4 warriors. guest7700 lost 3 guardians and 2 warriors.
23:39 <BabyBug> epsy, make a global variable then... true = True
23:39 <BabyBug> :P
23:39 <epsy> no >.>
23:39 <BabyBug> xD
23:43 <epsy> ok, that works
23:44 <epsy> I feel like forgetting something
23:48 <ct|kyle> how can a change a strings encoding in python BabyBug
23:49 <BabyBug> encode()?
23:49 <epsy> that looks like working
23:51 <epsy> push'd

Log from 2009-03-10:
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00:01 <epsy> nighty
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00:49 <BabyBug> Hiiiiiiiiii!!
00:49 <ct|kyle> oiiiiiii!!
00:50 <BabyBug> zmanuel, why isn't the dedicated server just bundled with the client if you try to discourage people hosting hybrid servers?
00:51 <luke-jr> because most people don't need more than the client?
00:51 <luke-jr> a better question is why we don't have server-less builds, IMO ;P
00:52 <zmanuel> Because hybrids are still useful for LAN play.
00:52 <zmanuel> (answers both questions :P)
00:52 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-cmake] r899 Hacky build of dedicated can be done by setting DEDICATED=ON...
00:52 <luke-jr> zmanuel: existence of server-less builds breaks hybrid clients how? ;)
00:53 <zmanuel> existence doesn't break them
00:53 <zmanuel> but what use is an additional build if you don't throw out an old build?
00:53 <BabyBug> luke-jr, your better question makes my head hurt
00:54 <luke-jr> ☺
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01:53 <nsh22> SINE!
01:53 <sinewav> Sup neal!
01:54 <sinewav> Exclamation poitnt!
01:54 <sinewav> You know who is crazy with exclamation points? compguygene. I might point it out to him soon.
01:54 <sinewav> :)
01:55 <nsh22> are you goonna make an essay about it?
01:56 <sinewav> No, plenty of them in English books.
01:56 <sinewav> ;)
01:56 <nsh22> yours are better :P
01:57 <sinewav> ty
01:57 <sinewav> I try hard to impress
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02:02 <sinewav> Everyone: I'm trying out yet another IRC client. Please be patient with me if things get silly for a few minutes...
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02:16 <madmax> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96dWOEa4Djs&fmt=22
02:16 <luke-jr> OMFG NO
02:16 <luke-jr> SINEWAV IS GONE
02:16 <luke-jr> CAN'T GO ON WITH LIFE…………
02:18 <nsh22> i could say something but i wont :P
02:19 <luke-jr> ..
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02:26 <luke-jr> YAY
02:26 <luke-jr> Brian Hil… is back !
02:26 <sinewav> :o
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02:26 <luke-jr> sinewav: it announced that when you joined
02:26 <luke-jr> [20:24:57] --> sinewav has joined this channel (n=BrianHil@adsl-76-197-246-93.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net).
02:27 <luke-jr> bad Miranda IM? :p
02:27 <sinewav> I just got it, trying to figure it out.
02:29 <sinewav> Is it bad form to use your real name ever? I really don't care if people know me...
02:29 <luke-jr> shrug
02:29 <luke-jr> you avoid it, it seems
02:30 <sinewav> ok, I changed it. I want to be like everyone else.
02:30 <sinewav> gotta check something. sorry for spam.
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02:31 <luke-jr> my real name is public; I only give fake ones to big companies :p
02:31 <sinewav> nice
02:31 <luke-jr> luke-jr is just shortened Luke Dashjr
02:31 <luke-jr> :p
02:31 <sinewav> what did it say this time?
02:31 <sinewav> when I logged
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02:31 <sinewav> ok thanks. I think I'll be happy with this client
02:33 <luke-jr> Freeciv anyone?
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02:33 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: poke
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05:15 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 10/1.2
05:15 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: 8.33333333333
05:15 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 15/1.2
05:15 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: 12.5
05:15 <Lucifer_arma> #fetch http://www.davefancella.com
05:15 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: '<?xml version="1.0"\n?>\n<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">\n<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">\n<head>\n<title>Dave Fancella</title>\n<meta name="generator" content="http://txt2tags.sf.net" />\n<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="style/main.css" />\n<link rel="stylesheet" (5 more messages)
05:23 <luke-jr> …
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05:54 <Lucifer_arma> #google math 37 7/8 inches in millimeters
05:54 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: Error connecting to Google.com.
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05:54 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 962/51
05:54 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: 18.862745098
05:55 <Lucifer_arma> oh good, I can fit 18 batteries in this tube, and I only need to fit 10
05:55 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 51*10
05:55 <Lucifer_arma> duh
05:55 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: 510
05:56 <Lucifer_arma> I guess I need to find out if these speakers can even be powered by 10 AA batteries before I build a case for it
05:57  * Lucifer_arma briefly considers if there's a cheap case that holds 10 AA batteries at radio shack
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06:24 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.toddsmith.com/prods/nighthack.shtml <-- shit
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> $17/ball
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> anybody want to buy me 3 globalls?
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> heh
06:24 <luke-jr> …
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06:25 <luke-jr> epsy: buy Lucifer_arma some toys?
06:25 <sinewav> good morning epsy
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> nah, I'll take those in the street and see what I can get for them
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> I'm almost decided to do a musical interpretation act of sorts
06:26 <sinewav> You don't say...
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> hey, it's almost guaranteed to do well, a juggling musical interpretation with fancy light-up balls
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> this is Austin, after all
06:28 <sinewav> I will be there first week of May. I'll look you up.
06:28 <luke-jr> sinewav: ooh come visit me too :p
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> hey do that, if I'm still here then :/
06:28 <sinewav> Where will you go?
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> if I don't score some sort of regular income, I'll have to pack up and go stay with my parents for a bit
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> they're in New Mexico
06:29 <sinewav> bummer. lot's of my friends going down that road right now.
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> if that happens, I'll probably hit up the recruiters and go for military service
06:29 <sinewav> harder to see your kids man... I'm sorry.
06:29 <luke-jr> I'd have done that months ago, but the stupid state of Nebraska won't let me leave. :<
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> I'm not too old yet
06:29 <sinewav> luke-jr: : probation?
06:29 <luke-jr> …
06:30 <luke-jr> not too sure what that means
06:30 <ct|kyle> #dict probation
06:30 <@armabot> ct|kyle: wn, bouvier, gcide, and moby-thes responded: bouvier: PROBATION. The evidence which proves a thing. It is either by record, writing, the party's own oath, or the testimony of witnesses. Proof. (q.v.) It also signifies the time of a novitiate; a trial. Nov. 5; moby-thes: 25 Moby Thesaurus words for "probation": acid test, assay, blank determination, brouillon, criterion, (5 more messages)
06:30 <sinewav> like, you got busted doin' some shit and have to see your PO once a month.
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> probation means you've actually committed a crime and been convicted
06:30 <luke-jr> nothing they have to bust me doing
06:30 -!- Lucifer_arma is now known as Lucifer
06:31 <luke-jr> sinewav: no, they kidnapped my kids because of theoretical future crimes that have not ever happened nor ever would
06:31 <epsy> morning
06:32 <sinewav> luke-jr: : aw man, that sucks. I'm so sorry for you. :(
06:32 <sinewav> I can't imagine what that's like.
06:33 <Lucifer> http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=7041036&page=1  <--- best news I've had all week
06:34 <sinewav> saw that. interesting. Most of my friends have abandoned religious faith over the last decade too.
06:35 <luke-jr> just demonstrates how stupid America is
06:35 <ct|kyle> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/10/world/asia/10korea.html?ref=asia
06:35 <luke-jr> heck, even if you don't actually believe in anything, it's just dumb not to take advantage of religious-exception laws
06:42 <Vanhayes> on the topic of enlisted, just curious how long does it takes to get into basic training in the states?
06:45 <Vanhayes> just wondering because a while back i seriously looked into joining here, and they said the application process took 6-8 months maybe longer
06:46 <Vanhayes> which seems way too long to me
06:48 <Vanhayes> probably part of the reason we have such a small armed forces
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06:53 <luke-jr> :o luci's on facebook
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09:34 <Lucifer> heh, I think it would be cheaper to take a black light in a portable lamp and use balls that are colored to light up in the black light
09:50 <Lucifer> http://www.amazon.com/FyreBall-Set-Standard/dp/B0018DXJBK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=generic&qid=1236674838&sr=1-1
09:51 <BabyBug> Mooooooorning
09:54 <Lucifer> morning
10:04  * Lucifer wants fire juggling balls
10:07 <BabyBug> lame.... :P
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11:02 <joda_bot> guru3_: Lucifer: luke-jr: zmanuel: I just read about Skype-Mods making their new homepage... I'm not sure how long they keep on providing their services (so a new site is a safe idea).
11:02 <joda_bot> Some guys in the thread are offering website help. Anyone else thinking about giving armagetronad.net a face lift ? if someone of them provides a nice design or a more userfriendly structure ? Make it a competition ? (I guess that worked well for the wall texture ?)
11:07 <zmanuel> Dunno. Just let that one guy show us his suggestions and have a vote on that. A full blown competition is probably too much.
11:07 <zmanuel> And frankly, I don't see what's wrong with the current site.
11:08 <zmanuel> but off I go.
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11:10 <guru3> i just wish we had a phpbb3 theme
11:10 <BabyBug> isn't it possible just to port the phpbb2 theme?
11:10 <guru3> not easily
11:11 <guru3> they weren't designed to be compatible
11:14 <BabyBug> :s
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11:20 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r920 Tailchasing now sort of works....
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11:51 <@armabot> armagetronad: guru3 * r9137 /www/mainsite/links.php: mentors link
12:48 <joda_bot> guru3: do you have any preferences on what phpbb theme you want to have customized ?
12:48 <joda_bot> guru3: or atleast how it should be ... ?
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16:07 <guru3> joda_bot: something armagetron themed, and light colored
16:11 <joda_bot> guru3: if can provide me with a base phpbb layout. I might have a look at it - the less layout changes you want the better I guess
16:11 <joda_bot> changing colors, fonts and images is easier
16:11 <guru3> tjhe current theme is based on subsilver2
16:11 <guru3> there's a subsilver 2 for phpbb3
16:12 <guru3> i think it _might_ be as easy as updating the images and css
16:12 <guru3> then tweaking all the margins and paddings until it looks nearly the same
16:12 <joda_bot> guru3: I'm not really competent to decide what a makes "forum theme" user friendly or good
16:12 <guru3> im not either
16:12 <joda_bot> so just point me to a direction or make it a topic :D
16:12 <guru3> i'm not a UI designer
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16:13 <joda_bot> perhaps the user base should suggest and vote on a theme, and then I'll have a go at customizing it
16:13 <guru3> as near as i can work out
16:13 <guru3> the only difference between themes are the images
16:13 <guru3> layouts more or less stay the same
16:13 <joda_bot> really ...?
16:13 <guru3> well, where are you going to move the poster's name too?
16:13 <guru3> it's either gonna be the left side or the right
16:14 <guru3> profile link on the side or at the bottom
16:14 <guru3> not a lot of options
16:14 <joda_bot> I guess there might be different options on spacing and size
16:14 <joda_bot> that's what I call layout too
16:14 <guru3> i'd call the spacing just a matter of design
16:15 <guru3> but it all sort of rolls together
16:15 <joda_bot> what layout type apeals to the user base (excluding color and images :D)
16:15 <guru3> maybe ask lack how he did the original theme
16:15 <joda_bot> You want to use phpBB3 right ?
16:15 <joda_bot> IÄ
16:15 <guru3> yes
16:16 <joda_bot> I'll browse through the available themes later and pick some candidates, and we can get some feedback on that...
16:16 <guru3> but you know how in the current theme
16:16 <guru3> like the profile bar at the bottom is like a light cycle
16:16 <guru3> same with the newpost buttons
16:17 <guru3> cycles for forums on the main page
16:17 <guru3> that's the sort of armagetron customization i would like to see
16:17 <guru3> custom banner at the top
16:22 <joda_bot> same design or new one basically ?
16:23 <guru3> i'd be perfectly happen with the same design to be honest
16:27 <joda_bot> I'm kind of scared of the background :D
16:27 <guru3> heh
16:30 <joda_bot> guru3: you explicitly want a light background ?
16:30 <joda_bot> armagetron otherwise usually has more darker colors :-)
16:30 <guru3> it didn't use to be so dark
16:31 <guru3> the original moviepack floor afterall
16:31 <guru3> used to be the de-facto standard
16:34 <joda_bot> even tron is rather (dark) blueish and grey to black :-) constrasted by the backlitt-armors
16:34 <joda_bot> I kind of like the layout of this one ... compared to the others so far: http://www.phpbb.com/styles/demo/3.0/?style_id=3
16:37 <BabyBug> guru3, why not tar up the images from the current theme? Then post that on the forum for anyone to make a theme using them?
16:37 <guru3> may just do that
16:37 <guru3> joda_bot: i dunno
16:38 <BabyBug> =)
16:38 <guru3> looks standard but i don't like the user info bit on the right
16:38 <joda_bot> what did you want there ?
16:40 <guru3> like the current layout
16:40 <guru3> that info on the left
16:43 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Pathetique/sumo/hexsumo-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Pathetique
16:44 <joda_bot> so you just want the topic too ?
16:44 <joda_bot> How about:
16:44 <joda_bot> 1. Line               Author - Topic... (cut of after a bit)
16:44 <joda_bot> 2. Line               Datestamp
16:45 <guru3>  i don't know
16:45 <guru3> never given it much thought
16:45 <guru3> to my mind most all forums look exactly the same
16:45 <guru3> except for the stupid box being on the right instead of the elft sometimes
16:45 <BabyBug> which box? :|
16:48 <joda_bot> box ?
16:48  * joda_bot scratches head
16:48 <guru3> the one with the avatar
16:48 <guru3> and poster name
16:48 <BabyBug> oooo, it's sometimes on top aswell...
16:49 <BabyBug> looks better on top imo
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16:51 <joda_bot> BabyBug: ?
16:51 <compguygene> hi joda
16:52 <BabyBug> The poster info. Instead of having a column to the left, it looks nicer on top of the post =)
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16:54 <joda_bot> BabyBug: can you show me an example theme ?
16:55 <BabyBug> http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=301882 <--- vbulletin has it layed out as such :)
16:55 <BabyBug> Leaves for space for the actual post itself :)
16:56 <joda_bot> oh ok, now I understand
16:57 <joda_bot> BabyBug: but I'm actually just scanning phpbb3 themes
16:57 <joda_bot> otherwise it's a total rewrite of the theme (most of the time)
16:57 <luke-jr> joda_bot: wtf does Skype have to do with website?
16:57 <joda_bot> luke-jr: huh ?
16:57 <luke-jr> [05:02:49] <joda_bot> guru3_: Lucifer: luke-jr: zmanuel: I just read about Skype-Mods making their new homepage… I'm not sure how long they keep on providing their services (so a new site is a safe idea).
16:58 <joda_bot> luke-jr: ah ok, Radian wants to ease new players into the armagetron world, by helping over any voice chat system used on the new players end
16:59 <joda_bot> if a new player has skype he can get radian to help him out in the evening with learning arma or something like that
16:59 <joda_bot> I think it will wear off after a while, because you have to explain the same things over and over again but I like the idea/effort
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18:37 <luke-jr> hum
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19:57 <nsh22> hey hey
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21:11 <Concord> #si cafe
21:11 <@armabot> Concord: Fortress Café: Players (7/32): Ct_Concord, epsy¦×¦ (epsy@x/member), noob13, O--->, pH4Lk0n, Pink Taco, Sithy (Sithy@forums)
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21:25 <BabyBug> zooooohoooooo
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21:37 <eddiefantastic> luke-jr: it seems the link for latest 0.3 dmg is broken: http://d.distfiles.aabeta.dashjr.org/0.3/0.3.1_alpha20090119/armagetronad-0.3.1_alpha20090119.macosx-universal.dmg
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21:37 <ct|kyle> hey eddiefantastic
21:39 <eddiefantastic> hi kyle :) how's things?
21:39 <eddiefantastic> you got me a 0.3 zonesv2 sty+ct build for me to play with yet ;)
21:39 <ct|kyle> pretty good, you must have a little more free time lately
21:40 <ct|kyle> eddiefantastic: working on flag zones first, they still don't work very well right now though
21:41 <eddiefantastic> Actually the opposite, I find myself playing this game when I have too much to do :S
21:42 <ivantis2> i find myself not playing arma at all anymore
21:42 <ivantis2> #ls ivantis
21:42 <BabyBug> then fuck off? =)
21:42 <@armabot> ivantis2: timed out
21:42 <eddiefantastic> haha
21:42 <ivantis2> why does babybug hate me?
21:42 <Vanhayes> its the 2
21:42 <ivantis2> aah
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21:43 <Vanhayes> there you go
21:43 <ct|kyle> I bet BabyBug still hates you ivantis
21:43 <ivantis> why?
21:43 <ivantis> she used to be nice
21:43 <epsy> can you stop talking to someone with no voice ? :D
21:43 <ct|kyle> she hates everyone except Lizmatic
21:43 <epsy> lol, i'd slap kyle
21:44 <Vanhayes> sexism it seems
21:44 <ivantis> isnt there another girl in here?
21:44 <ivantis> like uh...
21:44 <ivantis> well i remember a girl being in here a while ago
21:44  * BabyBug agrees with ct|kyle 
21:44 <Vanhayes> fonkay but she just lurks
21:44 <ivantis> right fonkay
21:44 <Lizmatic> zmanuel is a girl too
21:45 <ivantis> you have an army of 3
21:45 <ct|kyle> kind of weird to have someone agree with me but still hate me
21:45 <zmanuel> ...
21:45 <BabyBug> Liza, Genki...isn't there more?
21:45 <Lizmatic> hey ct|kyle, I agree with hitler but I still hate him
21:45 <eddiefantastic> I have a new pc with intel quad core, 4 gigs of ram, a gf g200 video card with a gig of ram. How come I get drops to 30fps on arma?
21:45 <ivantis> yeah liza thats who i was thinking of
21:45 <Vanhayes> ive been called a girl but that was only when i played football
21:46 <epsy> bad drivers
21:46 <Lizmatic> haha
21:46 <Vanhayes> not soccer btw
21:46 <Lizmatic> HA
21:46 <epsy> HA
21:46  * Lizmatic laughs at BabyBug
21:46 <ct|kyle> eddiefantastic: probably because arma does not take advantage of multiple cores
21:46 <eddiefantastic> I can get mauled by a dozen zombies in left4dead without a stutter, but arma? it's a whole different ball game
21:46 <Lizmatic> FOOTBALL AND SOCCER ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS BITSH
21:46 <epsy> aren't *
21:46 <ivantis> mostly
21:47 <Vanhayes> but to be fair thats because i had just broken my wrist when a fat guy jumped on me
21:47 <epsy> and lag, too
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21:48 <eddiefantastic> I'm sure I used to get a steady framerate back a year or so ago on a lesser machine
21:48 <eddiefantastic> maybe that was 0.2.8
21:49 <eddiefantastic> anyway. I have to go beat the last level of Crayon Physics Deluxe. Bye bye
21:51 <Vanhayes> is that a crayon simulator?
21:52 <eddiefantastic> something like that
21:52 <Vanhayes> is it free to download?
21:52 <eddiefantastic> you draw things and they react to gravity
21:52 <eddiefantastic> you can get a demo with the first dozen or som levels
21:52 <eddiefantastic> it's $20 to buy
21:53 <eddiefantastic> you can draw cranes and all sorts
21:53 <ct|kyle> #quote search #crazy-tronners goat
21:53 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r921 Moved fortress defense into own file in zone folder....
21:53 <Vanhayes> gonna have to check that out later on tonight
21:53 <@armabot> ct|kyle: 1 found: #2: "(11:44:13) eddiefantastic: I'd rather stick my..."
21:53 <Vanhayes> ... finish that quote
21:54 <ct|kyle> #quote get #crazy-tronners 2
21:54 <Vanhayes> #quote get 2
21:54 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Quote #2: "(11:44:13) eddiefantastic: I'd rather stick my cock in a jar of honey, roll it in oats then feed it to a goat" (added by ct|kyle at 05:49 PM, December 12, 2007)
21:54 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #2: "God gave me fingers and a clitoris, I mean, it's pretty obvious. --Lola Garcia" (added by Lucifer_arma at 07:07 AM, March 24, 2006)
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21:55 <Vanhayes> wow those were both good quotes
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21:59 <eddiefantastic> I beat it!
21:59 <eddiefantastic> Damn, now I need to clean the house :( bye
21:59 <ct|kyle> see you eddiefantastic
21:59 <ivantis2> see ya eddie
22:01 <epsy> darn, this theme doesn't respect date format ..
22:01  * fonkay does more than lurk.
22:02 <fonkay> tyvm
22:02  * BabyBug disagrees
22:02 <fonkay> You guys just never talk about anything I can join in on.
22:04 <Lizmatic> like.. STDs?
22:04 <Lizmatic> HAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAH BURN
22:04 <Lizmatic> !!11!
22:04 <Vanhayes> know idea why you wouldnt want to join in on talks like those...
22:04 <Vanhayes> no*
22:05 <fonkay> also, i work or sleep at peak chat times.
22:07 <fonkay> most people i talk with on here are on from like midnight-4am my time.
22:07 <Vanhayes> thats true alot of people are either in europe or insomniacs
22:08 <|sol|> I'm both
22:09 <Vanhayes> I just need to start working again, I always stay up too late if there isnt anything I need to do in the morning
22:09 <Vanhayes> fonkay: you still in N.S?
22:10 <fonkay> yes sir
22:10 <fonkay> 19 years and counting
22:10 <joda_bot1> fonkay: when did you join the millitary ? :D
22:11 <Vanhayes> were you one of the ones who lost power a few weeks ago from that huge storm?
22:11 <fonkay> nope
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22:11 <fonkay> Never.
22:11 <fonkay> sorry... joda_bot: never
22:11 <fonkay> Vanhayes: nope
22:11 <Vanhayes> takes too long to join here
22:12 <fonkay> I live downtown hali, so even if my power goes down, it's never down for long.
22:12 <Vanhayes> ah ok
22:13 <Vanhayes> i was just wondering because the day i got back here from AB that huge storm hit and the power was out for almost 2 days
22:13 <Vanhayes> made me feel at home
22:15 <fonkay> I don't know if i'll ever leave here. I like it so much.
22:16 <Vanhayes> it was hard but i didnt want to end up working in the sav easy in town or a warehouse in saint john for mim wage
22:17 <Vanhayes> alberta wasnt too bad, it was  weird not having water or forest or anything around though
22:17 <epsy> boo
22:17 <Vanhayes> and the -30 or -40 wasnt very nice either
22:20 <fonkay> AB sucks. Even moreso now, what with their crashing and all.
22:20 <fonkay> Saint John is so depressing.
22:21 <epsy> qzctf7 was never included with q3 right? :P
22:21 <Vanhayes> you dont like old delapitated empty houses everywhere?
22:21 <epsy> err
22:21 <fonkay> Or the Cali-type fog.
22:21 <epsy> you have the same colors than the guys in #quakelive, fu!
22:21 <fonkay> *smog
22:22 <Vanhayes> keeps the sun down in the summer
22:22 <Vanhayes> and a weird reflective glow in the minter nights
22:23 <Vanhayes> winter*
22:23 <fonkay> last time i was there in the summer there wasn't even any grass.
22:23 <fonkay> it was lots of brown stuff everywhere.
22:23 <fonkay> icky.
22:23 <fonkay> I love Hali.
22:23 <Vanhayes> plus you got a nice sulfur mill near one of the biggest tourist attractions, dont know who thought that was a good idea
22:24 <Vanhayes> ya, halifax is probably one of most beautiful cities ive been to
22:25 <Vanhayes> saint john has its good sides too, the boardwalk is nice in the summer, usually have alot of good live music there
22:26 <Vanhayes> though most of the bands/artists are from NS
22:26 <fonkay> Until you walk 5 mins and you're back in the slums.
22:26 <fonkay> hehe
22:27 <fonkay> there are a lot less vagrants in nb though.
22:27 <Vanhayes> ya, i guess its not so much good "sides" and more just small little bubbles of good
22:27 <fonkay> they mostly hitch to hali
22:27  * Vanhayes has done that
22:28 <fonkay> ever make it to the fest last year?
22:28 <Vanhayes> well saint john has alot less people than hali does too
22:28 <Vanhayes> no, i was doing 24 and 4 in edmonton last year
22:29 <fonkay> wait, ok....the year you were here last then.
22:29 <fonkay> Has it really been that long since I was away for school?
22:30 <Vanhayes> ya, made it in 8 hours hitching to antigonish 6 hours back
22:31 <fonkay> fun fun
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22:31 <fonkay> ok, dinner time has begun. ttyl
22:31  * fonkay will try to lurk less.
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22:32 <Vanhayes> for some reason people wanted to pick up 3 guys that hadn't shaved showered or had alot of sleep in 5 days
22:32 <Vanhayes> ya, diner sounds good
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22:42 <nsh22> hey hey hey
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22:54 <nsh22> #q
22:54 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #72: "epsy puts himself in the middle and eats it.  --epsy" (added by Lucifer_arma at 12:48 AM, July 28, 2008)
22:54 <nsh22> #q
22:54 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #48: "i'm a woindwos user --MrBougo" (added by Lucifer_arma at 09:12 AM, June 24, 2007)
22:54 <nsh22> #q
22:54 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #59: "-Kick- You have been kicked from channel #armagetron by luke-jr (sorry)." (added by Lucifer_arma at 05:33 AM, September 17, 2007)
22:54 <nsh22> #q
22:54 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #3: "um, try spelling it wirght :) -- Lucifer" (added by Lucifer_arma at 06:22 AM, March 27, 2006)
22:54 <nsh22> #q
22:54 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #73: "<Lucifer> if you don't want to nitpick, don't talk to luke-jr (hi there!)" (added by epsy at 12:52 AM, July 28, 2008)
22:54 <nsh22> #q
22:54 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #86: "<luke-jr> I'm still grasping at corks to plug the holes" (added by GodTodd at 07:12 AM, January 07, 2009)
22:54 <nsh22> #q
22:55 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #49: "<ToddBot> #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo" (added by epsy at 03:52 PM, July 09, 2007)
22:55 <nsh22>  #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo
22:55 <nsh22> #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo
22:55 <@armabot> !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo
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22:56 <nsh22> hey lacka
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22:57 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1093 renamed SILENCE_ALL -> SILENCE_DEFAULT.... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1092 Reverting last revision for redunancy....
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22:57 <epsy> nsh22, don't do that, even if it doesn't wirj
22:57 <epsy> work *
22:58 <nsh22> ???
22:58 <nsh22> oh that
22:58 <epsy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IE3KdcTgrno
22:58 <nsh22> it could work very well if i changed the ! to ]
22:58 <epsy> not really, haha
22:58 <Word_> lol life of brian
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23:04 <nsh22> epsy: rofl at that vid
23:05 <epsy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjaaM7dGZQ0&feature=related
23:11 <luke-jr> eddiefantastic: click again
23:11 <@armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r9138 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/fetch.php: I discontinued service w/ DreamHost (D.distfiles)
23:11 <@armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
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23:18 <epsy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wgSDTABf1I&feature=related
23:21 <joda_bot> epsy: why all the youtube videos ? :D
23:22 <epsy> bored :d
23:23 <nsh22> theres so many ventrillio harassments :P
23:23 <nsh22> its sooo funny
23:25 <epsy> http://revver.com/video/1151675/ventrilo-harassment-twisted-sister/
23:27 <nsh22> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxpshB6K4cc&feature=related
23:37 <epsy> btw, while MrBougo doesn't look: http://www.own3d.tv/watch/fra3,12086.html
23:39 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Pathetique/fortress/twozonefort-0.3.5.aamap.xml: Resource by Pathetique
23:42 <Vanhayes> celebrity jeopardy is ridiculously easy
23:46 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Pathetique/fortress/dbdfort-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Pathetique
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00:00 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1095 Made it possible to switch viewports in four player mode.... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1094 Also renamed SilenceAll variable intenally....
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00:37 <fonkay> #q
00:37 <@armabot> fonkay: Quote #65: "<Ady666> armabot, 1+2? [...] <Ady666> its thinking" (added by epsy at 12:14 AM, December 22, 2007)
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01:04 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r922 Coward now is only afraid to follow enemy walls closely....
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01:17 <Vanhayes> #night
01:17 <@armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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01:18 <luke-jr> wow
01:18 <sinewave> what
01:19 <luke-jr> does that mean the AI are now easier to tk?
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01:30 <sinewave> hmm...
01:30 <sinewave> My connection is suspiciously sketchy tonight.
01:31 <luke-jr> get a server from m…. oh, wait. ;)
01:38  * sinewave rolls eyes
01:39 <sinewave> Actually, I can't wait until I have money again. I miss my racing server.
01:48 <luke-jr> that won't fix your ISP tho ;)
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04:23 <Lucifer> fire juggling balls are not lame!
04:23 <Lucifer> oh, she's not here anymore to see that
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05:50 <Zurd> hey guys
05:51 <Zurd> is there any possible way to set up and host an armagetron server through a FTP server?
05:52 <Zurd> anybody home tonight?
05:59 <sinewave> Zurd: : say what?
05:59 <Zurd> can i install a sever onto a FTP server?
06:01 <Zurd> for instance, i have a ftp server with 1g bandwith and 2gb storage, can i host a server through it?
06:01 <sinewave> interesting question. I think it's up to your hosting service. Mine won't let me.
06:01 <Zurd> how would i try?
06:02 <sinewave> well, I think you should wait and see if a dev is available. I'm pretty dumb about that stuff. sorry.
06:02 <Zurd> darn, i'll have to ask them tomarow, gtg
06:02 <Zurd> gnight guys
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06:03 <sinewave> bb
06:03 <luke-jr> Zurd: FTP is a security hole; you should tell them to stop hosting it
06:03 <luke-jr> oops, too late
06:03 <sinewave> lol!
06:03 <luke-jr> sinewave: well it is
06:03 <luke-jr> FTP doesn't encrypt passwords at all
06:04 <sinewave> I'll keep that in mind.
06:05 <luke-jr> FTP was designed in the generation where connections were direct PC to PC ☺
06:05 <luke-jr> eg, you dialed in to the server
06:06 <luke-jr> back when encryption was to some degree illegal
06:06 <sinewave> oh yeah...
06:06 <luke-jr> (couldn't export it outside the US, so using it was impractical)
06:07 <sinewave> I remember hearing about that now.
06:13 <luke-jr> bored
06:14 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: I have flag zones almost working
06:14 <luke-jr> cool
06:14 <luke-jr> mayeb I should do my base respawn rewrite
06:14 <ct|kyle> they are a bit jumpy though
06:14 <luke-jr> but first
06:14 <luke-jr> let's ask an expert
06:14 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: hi
06:15 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: does anyone care if BASE_RESPAWN can be changed mid-round?
06:15 <luke-jr> sigh
06:15 <ct|kyle> some people do
06:16 <ct|kyle> shape->setPosX(tFunction(owner_->Position().x, 0))
06:16 <luke-jr> o rly? :o
06:16 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: wtf, ew
06:16 <ct|kyle> it works
06:16 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: surely you can find their speed and acceleration?
06:17 <luke-jr> though PosX/Y only support speed ATM :/
06:18 <ct|kyle> I don't know what tFunction is supposed to have, that was just a guess as to what I needed
06:28 <luke-jr> -.-
06:28 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: in this case, tFunction ( currentPosition, speed )
06:28 <luke-jr> where speed is negative if X/Y is decreasing
06:28 <ct|kyle> ah
06:29 <ct|kyle> O can get that I think
06:29 <ct|kyle> I*
06:29 <ct|kyle> that is probably why they are jumpy
06:40 <luke-jr> :p
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08:23 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1096 Removed obsolete (and wrongly calculated) goneRatio variable...
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08:32 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9140 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (7 files in 4 dirs): Manuel Moos: renamed SILENCE_ALL -> SILENCE_DEFAULT.
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08:34 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9142 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/render/rViewport.cpp): Manuel Moos: Made it possible to switch viewports in four player mode.
08:34 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9143 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/eGameObject.cpp):
08:34 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
08:34 <@armabot> armagetronad: Removed obsolete (and wrongly calculated) goneRatio variable. This
08:34 <@armabot> armagetronad: fixes sensor collision reports; they would sometimes falsely report a
08:34 <@armabot> armagetronad: temporary wall behind a gridded wall as the first collision.
08:41 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r9144 /armagetronad/trunk/ (9 files in 5 dirs): (log message trimmed)
08:41 <@armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 9116 to 9143:
08:41 <@armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
08:41 <@armabot> armagetronad:  r9143 | bazaarmagetron | 2009-03-11 08:34:31 +0100 (Wed, 11 Mar 2009) | 5 lines
08:41 <@armabot> armagetronad:  author: Manuel Moos
08:41 <@armabot> armagetronad:  Removed obsolete (and wrongly calculated) goneRatio variable. This
08:41 <@armabot> armagetronad:  fixes sensor collision reports; they would sometimes falsely report a
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09:28 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r925 Merge from trunk... || [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r924 Fixed false emergency reports to the AI.... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r891 Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 9116 to 9143:... || [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r923 Switching to survival state when zone vanishes....
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10:33 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r927 Tweaks to trap sensor.... || [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r926 Moved follow evaluator into gAINavigator....
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11:37 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r929 Eviled up attacker AI.... || [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r928 const correctness....
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15:20 <Pathetique> luke-jr: I can't login to my SSH account that CompGuyGene set up for me on The Server Pharm...has the IP address changed?
15:28 <Pathetique> luke-jr: oic, compguygene sent me a PM last night.
15:39 <Pathetique> #ping
15:39 <@armabot> pong
15:39 <Pathetique> #whofarted
15:39 <@armabot> Pathetique farted!
15:40 <Pathetique> lawl
15:50 <MrBougo> #whofarted
15:50 <@armabot> MrBougo farted!
15:50 <MrBougo> I didn't!
15:51 <MrBougo> I thought it picked some random people up
15:51 <Pathetique> #whofarted
15:51 <@armabot> PinkTomato farted!
15:51 <Pathetique> there we go.
15:52 <MrBougo> eh
15:52 <PinkTomato> lol
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16:28 <epsy> #help whofarted
16:28 <@armabot> epsy: (whofarted <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "say $randomNick farted!".
16:28 <epsy> no random $randowNick commands please
16:28 <epsy> #alias remove whofarted
16:28 <@armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
16:29 <Pathetique> :(
16:29 <pruWord> #voice
16:29 <@armabot> pruWord: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,voice capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
16:29 <pruWord> xD
16:29 <epsy> #voice pruWord
16:29 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v pruWord] by armabot
16:29 <+pruWord> ty
16:29 <Pathetique> o.0
16:29 <+pruWord> does that work now?
16:30 <epsy> that?
16:30 <+pruWord> lol voice
16:30 <+pruWord> i am new at irc
16:30 <+pruWord> xD
16:30 <epsy> how didn't it work before?
16:30 <Pathetique> Is luke-jr in the house?
16:30 <+pruWord> i am trying to find out how to make a voice-chat
16:30 <Pathetique> rofl
16:30 <+pruWord> we have a pru-chan now
16:30 <+pruWord> :P
16:31 <Pathetique> IRC != voice chat
16:31 <epsy> use something like ventrillo or mumble
16:31 <epsy> CT uses mumble
16:31 <+pruWord> i have trillian
16:31 <Pathetique> ...
16:31 <Pathetique> *facepalm*
16:31 <epsy> IRC is an IM protocol designed for chatroom
16:31 <epsy> text ones
16:31 <Pathetique> 100% text based chatroom
16:31 <+pruWord> k
16:31 <epsy> not video or w/e
16:31 <Pathetique> 0% voice chat.
16:31 <+pruWord> ok
16:32 <Pathetique> </smackdown>
16:32 <epsy> IRC is more than 10 year old
16:32 <+pruWord> i always saw speakers next to epsy and concord in mibbit
16:32 <+pruWord> ok ty
16:32 <epsy> it means voice
16:32 <+pruWord> i thought it stands for voice chat
16:32 <epsy> heh
16:32 <+pruWord> :D
16:33 <+pruWord> i think i'll be here more often, after i finally found out how to use irc xD
16:33 <+pruWord> thanks a lot
16:34 <epsy> yw
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16:42 <luke-jr> Pathetique: compguygene's IP is fixed
16:42 <Pathetique> Still the same old IP?
16:42 <luke-jr> it should never change
16:42 <Pathetique> saweet.
16:44 <luke-jr> just got *my* email from gene
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16:45 <Pathetique> lolol
16:46 <vudiss> i wanna sex :D
16:48 <Pathetique>  /callvote kick vudiss
16:48 <Pathetique> #kick vudiss
16:48 <@armabot> Pathetique: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
16:48 <vudiss> ,
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16:53 <MrBougo> lol
16:53 <Pathetique> did he send anyone else a pm saying "wanna sex?"
16:53 <Lizmatic> just you, you're special
16:54 <Pathetique> rofl
16:54 <Pathetique> I guess so.
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16:57 <luke-jr> Pathetique: try now
16:57 <Pathetique> just did
16:57 <Pathetique> as if I read your mind
16:57 <Pathetique> fanfreakingtastic, luke-jr. ty :)
16:59  * luke-jr ponders a long-term fix
16:59 <Pathetique> What was the problem?
16:59 <luke-jr> HN lost the route to the VE
16:59 <luke-jr> when he rebooted
17:00 <Pathetique> HN = Host network? VE = ?
17:00  * Pathetique is a noob.
17:02 <luke-jr> bbiab
17:02 <epsy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCDc7W2P32I
17:02 <Pathetique> wtf is that shit?
17:02 <epsy> you :D
17:03 <Pathetique> I'm the green guy?
17:03 <luke-jr> HN = the machine running the VPS
17:03 <luke-jr> VE = the VPS
17:03 <Pathetique> oic
17:03 <Pathetique> ty
17:03 <luke-jr> BBIAB 4 realzx
17:03 <Pathetique> kk
17:03 <epsy> Pathetique, doesn't matter, they're both as funny :D
17:03 <Pathetique> lawl
17:06 <pruWord> #whoami
17:06 <@armabot> pruWord: I don't recognize you.
17:06 <pruWord> xD
17:06 <pruWord> whoami
17:06 <pruWord> lol
17:06 <pruWord> #kick vudiss
17:06 <@armabot> pruWord: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
17:06 <pruWord> lol fail
17:07 <Pathetique> epsy: would you get this for your car? http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/car/afe6/
17:09 <epsy> crap, I have a car?
17:09 <pruWord> lol how can vudiss(or i ) send a pm?
17:09 <Pathetique> idk, I thought you did.
17:09 <epsy>  /query guy or /msg guy message
17:09 <Pathetique> Would you get it if you had one?
17:09 <pruWord> he said "i wanna sex" to me too
17:09 <pruWord> #msg word
17:09 <pruWord> lol
17:09 <epsy> who was it ?
17:09 <Pathetique> some noob.
17:09 <epsy> nicks
17:10 <pruWord> vudiss
17:10 <pruWord> ty
17:10 <epsy> well, he quit the server anyway
17:11 <pruWord> do you know getdigital.com
17:11 <pruWord> my fav g33k site:D
17:12 <pruWord> oops
17:12 <pruWord> wrong link
17:12 <pruWord> www.getdigital.de
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17:22 <zurd> good morning, is anybody awake yet?
17:24 <epsy> no, we're all asleep at 6pm
17:24 <joda_bot> zurd: Zzzzzz ZZZZzzz please don't wake me
17:25 <zurd> i was just wondering  if it were possible for to DO, or TEST, weather i can install a srever to a web host through FTP and actually work?
17:25 <epsy> well, how would you START the server?
17:26 <zurd> dunno, why i am asking, maybe through the Url the server is installed to
17:27 <zurd> have the command prompt accessable through the web URL
17:28 <epsy> you can still try that
17:28 <epsy> heh
17:28 <zurd> how would i do so
17:28 <zurd> im just throwing out ideas
17:30 <epsy> well, just install it locally then copy files
17:35 <epsy> @calc 480/270 - 16/9
17:35 <teabot> epsy: (480 / 270) - (16 / 9) = 0
17:37 <epsy> @calc 320 * 270/480
17:37 <teabot> epsy: (320 * 270) / 480 = 180
17:38 <epsy> @calc 320/180 - 16/9
17:38 <teabot> epsy: (320 / 180) - (16 / 9) = 0
17:38 <epsy> okay, I is not dumb
17:58 <Vanhayes> #eliza you are dumb
17:58 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Why do you say i are dumb?
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18:00 <BabyBug> \o
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18:12 <BabyBug> z-man has issues
18:12 <luke-jr> http://lightfoot.dashjr.org/?page=vps
18:12 <luke-jr> one day special
18:12 <luke-jr> :p
18:12 <luke-jr> for the next 10 hours max
18:12 <BabyBug> luke-jr has bigger issues
18:13 <BabyBug> One day? lol... no ones going to buy them :P
18:13 <luke-jr> no?
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18:14 <BabyBug> your vps' are cheaper than arma hosting? :|
18:14 <BabyBug> lol
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18:15 <luke-jr> BabyBug: VPS has less support
18:15 <luke-jr> and less user friendly
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18:20 <luke-jr> there, sicne it's a 10 hour special, I put my phone number up :x
18:21 <epsy> wtf does "bc" stand for?!
18:21 <luke-jr> Before Christ?
18:21 <MrBougo> idk
18:21 <Vanhayes> british columbia?
18:21 <epsy> the command line utility
18:21 <MrBougo> "basic calculator"
18:21 <luke-jr> oh
18:21 <luke-jr> man bc?
18:21 <epsy> ..right..
18:22 <epsy> maybe I'll perhaps remember it more than 30 secinds now
18:22 <luke-jr> epsy: want a VPS? XD
18:22 <MrBougo> om
18:22 <epsy> no thanks
18:22 <MrBougo> um*
18:22 <luke-jr> starting at $6/mo
18:22 <MrBougo> "basic calculator" is only mentioned on wikipedia's disambig page
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18:22 <MrBougo> woops
18:25 <luke-jr> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=204632#204632
18:26 <BabyBug> What kind of a VPS can i get for $0?
18:26 <epsy> the ones that don't exist
18:26 <BabyBug> well that's not very nice
18:26 <BabyBug> that's poorism!
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18:26 <epsy> sure it is not
18:27 <luke-jr> wish I could offer Europe VPS :x
18:27 <BabyBug> why can't you?
18:27 <BabyBug> i thought you had EU boxes?
18:27 <BabyBug> or box*
18:30 <luke-jr> BabyBug: not capable of VPS hosting
18:30 <luke-jr> O
18:30 <luke-jr> I'm in the market for one tho I guess
18:31 <luke-jr> wish so many of the sites weren't non-English tho
18:31 <Vanhayes> learn non-english then
18:32 <MrBougo> :D
18:32 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: non-English is many languages
18:32 <Vanhayes> really?
18:33 <BabyBug> Like Welsh! \o/
18:33 <ct|kyle> welsh is for idiots :P
18:33 <luke-jr> and French
18:33 <luke-jr> and German
18:33 <epsy> idiots are for welsh
18:33  * epsy hides
18:33 <ct|kyle> epsy is for idiots
18:34  * epsy goes grab some armor >.>
18:34 <BabyBug> you lot of just jealous of my beautiful language
18:34 <ct|kyle> mv beautiful crappy
18:35 <Vanhayes> is welsh an actual language or just a dialect of english?
18:35 <epsy> BabyBug segvaults
18:35 <luke-jr> Vanhayes fail
18:35 <BabyBug> just because you're too idiotic to learn it ct|kyle doesn't make it crappy
18:35  * BabyBug hits Vanhayes hard!!
18:35 <epsy> yeah, but let's face it, vim is better
18:35 <Vanhayes> is that a yes or a no?
18:35 <BabyBug> it's an actual language...
18:35 <Vanhayes> ill go with yes
18:36 <Vanhayes> whats iut look like?
18:36 <Vanhayes> it*
18:36 <BabyBug> umm...like a language? :s
18:36 <Vanhayes> i thought welsh were just english people from wales
18:36 <BabyBug> :|
18:36 <BabyBug> lkjsdfhlkjsdhg
18:36 <epsy> yeah, it's just that Vanhayes
18:37 <BabyBug> bitch, cunt, whore! we are nothing the english! :@
18:37 <BabyBug> like the*
18:37 <epsy> :D
18:37 <epsy> then move away
18:37 <epsy> push yourself out of england and bump on the celtics
18:38 <BabyBug> ...
18:38 <BabyBug> i would if i could!
18:38 <Vanhayes> go ira on there ass
18:38 <epsy> :D
18:38 <Vanhayes> their*
18:38 <BabyBug> when i rule the world, england won't exist
18:38 <Vanhayes> when I rule the worl every country will have a number instead of a name
18:39 <ct|kyle> but BabyBug I killed you 3 or 4 times, so you are dead you will never rule the world
18:39 <BabyBug> #kick ct|kyle still alive and kicking... get it? kicking...i just kicked you.. ^^
18:39 <Vanhayes> doesnt the bible say the dead shall inherit the world?
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18:39 <BabyBug> 8-)
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18:39 <ct|kyle> wwhhhhhhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeee
18:40 <epsy> ARGH
18:41 <ct|kyle> my classmates and I overthrew our professor last week LOL
18:42 <wrtlprnft> argh, yet another spambot is posting around the forums :o
18:42 <BabyBug> that's not a very nice thing to call epsy wrtlprnft
18:42 <wrtlprnft> epsy?
18:42 <epsy> wrtlprnft?
18:42 <wrtlprnft> where did i mention epsy?
18:42 <wrtlprnft> hi there, btw
18:43 <luke-jr> actually, maybe I can do VPS in Europe :o
18:43 <epsy> hi there
18:43 <BabyBug> it was a joke... >.<
18:43 <BabyBug> zeesh!
18:43 <BabyBug> tough crowd...
18:43 <epsy> a welsh one
18:43 <Pathetique> ct|kyle: what'd you do?
18:43 <BabyBug> cei di ceg! :P
18:43 <epsy> :DD
18:43 <ct|kyle> P
18:44 <Vanhayes> are the welsh celtic?
18:44 <ct|kyle> Pathetique: basically told him the book sucks, he can't teach and that there were too many homework problems.
18:44 <Pathetique> LOL
18:44 <Pathetique> And so what hahappened?
18:44 <epsy> what does he teach btw?
18:44 <ct|kyle> so now he is only grading the first 14 problems any after that is extra cedit
18:44 <ct|kyle> physics
18:44 <epsy> heh
18:44 <Pathetique> nice!
18:45 <ct|kyle> I got a 68%  on first test everyone else was between 29% and 40%
18:45 <Pathetique> :o
18:46 <ct|kyle> the class started with 16 and we are down to 5
18:46 <Pathetique> Makes sense that he can't teach, then.
18:47 <ct|kyle> ya, but he still dose not understand that
18:47 <Pathetique> Too late to switch out?
18:47 <epsy> * is and..now how I am going to do OR ?
18:47 <Pathetique> | ?
18:48 <epsy> (standard_in) 1: illegal character: |
18:48 <epsy> (standard_in) 1: parse error
18:48 <ct|kyle> pretty much so, I can still drop it if I have to
18:48 <epsy> Pathetique, math parser
18:48 <Pathetique> oic
18:48 <Pathetique> idk
18:49 <Pathetique> rtfm or maybe even lmgtfy.com/?q=OR+math+parser
18:49 <Pathetique> :D
18:49 <Pathetique> lolol
18:49 <BabyBug> epsy, ||?
18:49 <Pathetique> btw
18:50 <Pathetique> If someone here was the first person to clue me in to that site, kudos to you.
18:50 <Pathetique> I friggin <3 lmgtfy
18:50 <Pathetique> :D
18:50 <epsy> BabyBug, that's not math either
18:50 <MrBougo> Pathetique, it has a live log too
18:50 <MrBougo> not so live
18:50 <MrBougo> and it's got weird requests
18:50 <Pathetique> I know.
18:50 <Pathetique> I was watching it before.
18:50 <MrBougo> hehe
18:50 <MrBougo> for hours? :p
18:50 <Pathetique> epsy: perhaps you just type in OR
18:50 <epsy> tried that
18:50 <Pathetique> You're doing boolean maths I take it?
18:50 <Pathetique> o.0
18:51 <epsy> I'm avoiding doing multiple runs of the math parser
18:51 <Pathetique> CPU hoar?
18:51 <epsy> ah I think I have an idea that would work for bools
18:51 <MrBougo> epsy, what are you trying to do?
18:52 <epsy> x*(-1)+1
18:52 <epsy> :)
18:52 <MrBougo> hehe
18:52 <Pathetique> o.o
18:52 <Pathetique> wtf is that shit?
18:52 <Pathetique> LOL
18:52 <MrBougo> writing a math parser
18:52 <epsy> no
18:52 <epsy> using one lol
18:52 <MrBougo> which one? :p
18:52 <epsy> just bc
18:52 <MrBougo> eh
18:53 <MrBougo> || works in if statements
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18:53 <epsy> strange, man bc talks about ||
18:53 <MrBougo> you're trying to do boolean algebra in BC? :p
18:53 <Pathetique> perhaps you should try u*r*gay
18:53 <Pathetique> and see what you get
18:53 <Pathetique> see what it tells you
18:53 <Pathetique> yaddamean?
18:54 <MrBougo> it says 0
18:54 <Pathetique> lawl
18:54 <epsy> $ echo "u*r*gay" | bc -l
18:54 <epsy> 0
18:54 <MrBougo> epsy, u*r*gay + 1
18:54 <Pathetique> rofl.
18:54 <Pathetique> LOL
18:54 <epsy> :D
18:54 <MrBougo> bc is fun
18:54 <epsy> I'm officially gay+1
18:54 <Pathetique> nono
18:54 <Pathetique> you're just gay
18:55 <Pathetique> not +1
18:55 <Pathetique> the plus one makes you gay :P
18:55 <epsy> well no
18:55 <epsy> if I ask it if I'm gay it says 0
18:55 <Pathetique> lawl
18:56 <epsy> it's funny how bash concats strings
18:56 <MrBougo> epsy, better than bac +5
18:56 <epsy> $ echo "($vidwidth / $vidheight >= 1 ) * 0 "'||'" 1" | bc -l
18:56 <epsy> 1
18:56 <epsy> heh
18:56 <Pathetique> you silly linuxers
18:56 <Pathetique> :P
18:56 <MrBougo> eh
18:56 <Pathetique> rather
18:56 <MrBougo> why, doesnt bash like || 's?
18:56 <Pathetique> command-line hoars.
18:57 <MrBougo> or it's not bash, epsy ?
18:57 <epsy> apparently not
18:57 <MrBougo> $ echo "foo||bar"
18:57 <MrBougo> foo||bar
18:57 <epsy> wtf now >.>
18:57 <Pathetique> $ echo LAWLWUT
18:57 <Pathetique> -.-
18:57 <Pathetique> ic.
18:57 <MrBougo> epsy, if it's bash, you could just as well use bash's builtin math :p
18:57 <epsy> it sucks
18:57 <epsy> can only do ints
18:58 <MrBougo> oh indeed
18:58 <epsy> from beginning to end
18:58 <epsy> it led me to pretty weird shit
18:58 <Pathetique> have BC calculate Pi to the 100th place
18:58 <epsy> esp. if you're working with relations
18:58 <MrBougo> $ echo "($vidwidth / $vidheight >= 1 ) * 0 "'||'" 1" | bc -l
18:58 <MrBougo> are you calculating stuff, then multiplying it by zero? :p
18:59 <epsy> bah, that's just on my side bash term
18:59 <epsy>     if [ $(echo "( $vidwidth / $vidheight >= 1 ) * ( $2 / $3 ) || " | bc -l) -eq 1 ]
18:59 <MrBougo> lol
18:59 <luke-jr> epsy: why not use $(())?
18:59 <MrBougo> yeah
18:59 <MrBougo> and [[ ]]
18:59 <epsy> said it earlier
18:59 <MrBougo> stay standard :p
18:59 <Pathetique> =}O{=
18:59 <Pathetique> goatse!
18:59 <MrBougo> also, you can use a here-string
19:00 <MrBougo> $(bc -l <<< "( $vidwidth / $vidheight >= 1 ) * ( $2 / $3 ) || ")
19:00 <Pathetique> lawl
19:00 <epsy> who cares >.>
19:00 <Pathetique> he's just showing you how 1337 he is
19:00 <Pathetique> ;)
19:00 <epsy> that's the same thing put in another order
19:00 <MrBougo> echo is in /bin/
19:00 <MrBougo> here-strings are builtin
19:00 <MrBougo> no needs for pipes or whatever, I guess it's more performant
19:01 <luke-jr> MrBougo: echo is builtin too XD
19:01 <MrBougo> is it
19:01 <MrBougo> oh you're right
19:01 <epsy> yeah
19:01 <luke-jr> $(( $vidwidth * $2 / $vidheight / $3 ))
19:01 <MrBougo> there's an echo in /bin too :p
19:01 <luke-jr> there, avoid the fork
19:01 <luke-jr> :p
19:01 <MrBougo> but bash truncates
19:01 <epsy> luke-jr, that would cause crap
19:01 <luke-jr> MrBougo: that's why you multiply first
19:01 <MrBougo> $ echo $((1/3))
19:01 <MrBougo> 0
19:02 <Pathetique> apparently * is a way of saying "AND" right, epsy?
19:02 <epsy> darn, can't I do my little video resizer without trolls biting me?
19:02 <MrBougo> :p
19:02 <Pathetique> apparently not :P
19:02 <MrBougo> bash is sometimes hacky :<
19:02  * Pathetique troll troll troll *NOM*
19:02 <MrBougo> but it's real fun
19:03 <epsy> I forgot what I would put after the "or" part
19:03 <Pathetique> Its as much fun as a command-line console can be.
19:03 <Pathetique> ;)
19:03 <epsy> GUI console is fun as well
19:03 <luke-jr> epsy: what *are* you trying to do?
19:03 <luke-jr> tell me in C and I'll port to BASH
19:03 <epsy> blah, you will see
19:04 <luke-jr> btw, I just undercut fsckvps ;o
19:05 <Pathetique> luke-jr: would we be able to do scripting similar to what happens on Flower Power Sumo Assault with gene's vps?
19:05 <Pathetique> we = I
19:05 <luke-jr> Pathetique: uh, it's a VPS
19:05 <Pathetique> o.o
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19:05  * Pathetique is a noob.
19:05 <luke-jr> from your perspective, it's the same as a normal server
19:06 <BabyBug> you can do pretty much anything
19:06 <Pathetique> so if I can manage to be 1337 enough to install php, I can...
19:06 <Pathetique> hmmm
19:06 <luke-jr> oh
19:06 <luke-jr> well, *you* can't do that
19:06 <Pathetique> oh?
19:06 <luke-jr> gene could, he's root
19:06 <Pathetique> I see.
19:07 <luke-jr> you could get your own VPS for $6/mo and do it ;)
19:07 <Pathetique> lol
19:07 <Pathetique> perhaps when the money flow is more regular for me
19:07 <Pathetique> grocery store hours ftl
19:07 <luke-jr> well, the $6/mo special is just today
19:07 <luke-jr> :p
19:07 <Pathetique> oic
19:07 <Pathetique> hmm.
19:08 <luke-jr> basically, I've got a sweet deal on a new dedi
19:08 <luke-jr> but I need to get back to them by tonight
19:08 <luke-jr> XD
19:09  * Pathetique checks his bank account balance.
19:09 <epsy> damn no that's not the right thing to do
19:09 <luke-jr> epsy: ?
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19:09  * luke-jr peers
19:09 <Pathetique_> ftl
19:10 <Pathetique_> woo...$112.54 paycheck. ._.
19:11 <luke-jr> ._.
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19:14 <luke-jr> hi madmax
19:15 <madmax> hello luke-jr
19:19  * luke-jr wonders why that toll-free number rings his phone
19:19 <luke-jr> I mean, it's nice and convenient and all, but why? XD
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19:44 <epsy> good, that works
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20:37 <BabyBug> what works?
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20:40 <nsh22> omg I LOVE LINUX!!!!!!!
20:44 <MrBougo> :o
20:44 <MrBougo> that much? :p
20:44 <nsh22> actually...
20:44 <nsh22> lol
20:45 <nsh22> i just ran it on my comp, it loosk great, and im useing tehe 7.04 version so kubuntu will be much better :)
21:01 <epsy> BabyBug, http://pastebin.com/m52590c61
21:01 <BabyBug> epsy, what's that for? :|
21:01 <epsy> reencoding videos
21:02 <nsh22> i gots linux im so happy :P
21:02 <epsy> and determining the right resolution to convert the videos to
21:02 <BabyBug> i see...
21:03 <epsy> you see..?
21:03 <BabyBug> yes i see...
21:04 <nsh22> i dont...
21:04 <epsy> you seem so suspicious on me..
21:04 <BabyBug> i'm not
21:05 <epsy> http://serge.31.free.fr/SuiviFtth.php
21:05 <epsy> ctrl+f 78.192.34
21:06  * epsy is the only guy on that subnet rofl :D
21:06 <nsh22> ???
21:07 <epsy> @tea
21:07 <teabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (17/32): 'rope, .:] Corn (Corn1@forums), CTxGonZaP, GP RAM, joda.bot, Kamakazi, noob13 (noob13@ct), noob34, OliveLoft, Penguin, Player 1, pwMetal, viper, z3r0, Zop, ¦×¦ Black_hat
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22:58 <nsh22> anybody home?
23:00 <joda_bot> nsh22: I guess
23:00 <joda_bot> nsh22: somebody is always at home (out there in the far, far reaches of reality)
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23:05 <nsh22> joda_bot: lol
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23:14 <madmax> #tea
23:14 <@armabot> madmax: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
23:15 <BabyBug> #n9
23:15 <@armabot> BabyBug: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (0/16):
23:16 <epsy> #somerandomemptyserver
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23:24 <ct|kyle> #someretardedserverthatdoesnotallowmultithreadedbrains
23:25  * joda_bot noticed bot abuse :D ... but is powerless to interfere
23:29 <ct|kyle> joda_bot: where that #n9 BabyBug said?
23:29 <nsh22> ct|kyle: how did that flag fort thing go?
23:29 <joda_bot> ct|kyle: you tried to overload the poor armabot's mind :-)
23:30 <ct|kyle> I was just referring to what #n9 really is :P
23:30 <ct|kyle> nsh22: Flag fort is Almost working
23:30 <nsh22> yay
23:31 <ct|kyle> not commented or updated though
23:31 <nsh22> meh
23:31 <epsy> bot abuse, that makes me remember about q3
23:31 <epsy> just spam "lol" and they will all stop to reply
23:31 <nsh22> i thoik i founded a bug in 2.8.3beta
23:31 <nsh22> ]lol
23:31 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: "lol" is not a valid command.
23:32 <nsh22> ]y
23:32 <ljrbot> A yandere game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "]yandere" to join.
23:32 <epsy> ]yandere stop
23:32 <ljrbot> The yandere game game has been forced to end.
23:32 <nsh22> :P
23:33 <nsh22> #si fort
23:33 <@armabot> nsh22: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress: Players (13/14): 'rope, 0543, dev, Guybrush, hand, LUTHER BLISSET, meh, milan (milan@ct), niro (niro@ct), PerfectPsYk0, tain, thelastSunrise
23:33 <nsh22> #si neal
23:33 <@armabot> nsh22: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “neal” at the moment, sorry.
23:33 <nsh22> #si neal's
23:33 <@armabot> nsh22: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “neal\'s” at the moment, sorry.
23:33 <nsh22> #si neals
23:33 <@armabot> nsh22: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “neals” at the moment, sorry.
23:33 <nsh22> #si random
23:33 <@armabot> nsh22: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “random” at the moment, sorry.
23:33 <nsh22>  ____|____
23:35 <joda_bot> epsy: If I enable "hide my global id" will the user list  / IRC channel display my login ?
23:36 <joda_bot> #slap nsh22
23:36 <@armabot> joda_bot slaps nsh22 for being a raving moron.
23:36 <joda_bot> :)
23:36 <nsh22> #hug joda_bot
23:36  * joda_bot has hot bot sex with armabot
23:36 <joda_bot> :-P
23:37 <nsh22> ]alias add ]hug $2 [$1 hugs $2 because they like them}
23:37 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: Spurious "]".  You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands.
23:37 <nsh22> ]alias add hug $2 [$1 hugs $2 because they like them}
23:37 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: Missing "]".  You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands.
23:37 <nsh22> ]alias add hug $2 [$1 hugs $2 because they like them]
23:37 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: "$1" is not a valid command.
23:38 <nsh22> ]alias add hug $2 [echo $1 hugs $2 because they like them]
23:38 <ljrbot> The operation succeeded.
23:38 <nsh22> ]hug nsh22
23:38 <ljrbot> nsh22: (hug <an alias, 2 arguments>) -- Alias for "$2 $1 hugs $2 because they like them".
23:38 <epsy> ]hug nsh22 echo
23:38 <ljrbot> nsh22 hugs echo because they like them
23:38 <epsy> ]hug nsh22 kick
23:38 <ljrbot> epsy: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
23:38 <nsh22> ]alias add hug $2 echo [$1 hugs $2 because they like them]
23:38 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: "$1" is not a valid command.
23:39 <nsh22> ]alias add hug $2 say [echo $1 hugs $2 because they like them]
23:39 <ljrbot> The operation succeeded.
23:39 <nsh22> ]hug nsh22
23:39 <ljrbot> nsh22: (hug <an alias, 2 arguments>) -- Alias for "$2 say $1 hugs $2 because they like them".
23:39 <epsy> actually how did you get it to accept that ?
23:39 <nsh22> ]hug nsh22 echo
23:39 <ljrbot> say nsh22 hugs echo because they like them
23:39 <nsh22> ]hug nsh22 joda_bot
23:39 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: "joda_bot" is not a valid command.
23:39 <nsh22> ]hug nsh22 joda_bot echo
23:39 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: "joda_bot echo" is not a valid command.
23:39  * joda_bot loves ljrbot
23:39 <nsh22> ]hug nsh22 echo joda_bot
23:39 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: "echo joda_bot" is not a valid command.
23:39 <nsh22> ]hug echo nsh22 joda_bot
23:39 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: "nsh22 joda_bot" is not a valid command.
23:40 <nsh22> epsy: what?
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23:42 <nsh22> ]alias add ]hug $1 "$1 hugs $2 because they like them [echo $1 hugs $2 because they like them]"
23:42 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: Spurious "]".  You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands.
23:42 <nsh22> ]alias add hug $1 "$1 hugs $2 because they like them [echo $1 hugs $2 because they like them]"
23:42 <ljrbot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
23:42 <nsh22> ]hug
23:42 <ljrbot> nsh22: (hug <an alias, 2 arguments>) -- Alias for "$1 $1 hugs $2 because they like them [echo $1 hugs $2 because they like them]".
23:42 <nsh22> hug
23:42 <nsh22> ]alias add hug $2 "$1 hugs $2 because they like them [echo $1 hugs $2 because they like them]"
23:42 <ljrbot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
23:42 <nsh22> ]hug neal
23:42 <ljrbot> nsh22: (hug <an alias, 2 arguments>) -- Alias for "$2 $1 hugs $2 because they like them [echo $1 hugs $2 because they like them]".
23:43 <nsh22> #help slap
23:43 <@armabot> nsh22: (slap <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "echo $who slaps $1 for being a raving moron.".
23:43 <joda_bot> :-D
23:43 <joda_bot> #tickle nsh22
23:43 <nsh22> ]alias add hug $1 "echo $who hugs $1 because they like them"
23:43 <ljrbot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
23:43 <nsh22> ]alias add ]hug $1 "echo $who hugs $1 because they like them"
23:43 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: Spurious "]".  You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands.
23:44 <nsh22> hug joda_bot
23:44 <nsh22> ]hug joda_bot
23:44 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: "joda_bot" is not a valid command.
23:44 <joda_bot> Muhahah :D
23:44 <nsh22> ]hug joda_bot
23:44 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: "joda_bot" is not a valid command.
23:44 <nsh22> ]alias add hug $1 "echo $who hugs $1 because they like them"
23:44 <ljrbot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
23:44 <nsh22> it should work....
23:45 <joda_bot> nsh22: only if the bots are identical (software / plugin wise) which they aren't
23:46 <joda_bot> afaik
23:46 <nsh22> ??/
23:46 <nsh22> they arnt the same bot?
23:47 <nsh22> luke-jr: is ljrbot a supybot?
23:48 <BabyBug> nsh22, it shouldn't work. You're creating the alias wrong.
23:48 <nsh22> :(
23:48 <joda_bot> ]version
23:48 <joda_bot> #version
23:48 <ljrbot> joda_bot: The current (running) version of this Supybot is 0.83.3.  The newest version available online is 0.83.3.
23:48 <@armabot> joda_bot: The current (running) version of this Supybot is 0.83.3.  The newest version available online is 0.83.3.
23:48 <nsh22> BabyBug: how dould i do it then?
23:48 <BabyBug> don't put the $1 before the "echo....
23:49 <nsh22> is that all?
23:49 <BabyBug> that's all
23:49 <nsh22> ]alias add hug "echo $who hugs $1 because they like them"
23:49 <ljrbot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
23:49 <nsh22> ]hug babybug
23:49 <ljrbot> nsh22 hugs babybug because they like them
23:49 <nsh22> :P
23:49 <nsh22> yay ty
23:50 <wrtlprnft> woot, i'm a top ten poster!
23:51 <wrtlprnft> can i call myself a spammer now?
23:51 <nsh22> on the forums?
23:51 <BabyBug> that just means you have too much spare time
23:51 <wrtlprnft> yeah
23:51 <nsh22> lol
23:51 <BabyBug> which you should better spending coding arma 8-)
23:51 <wrtlprnft> i beat n54 a couple of posts ago
23:51 <joda_bot> wrtlprnft: on forums ?
23:51 <wrtlprnft> yeah
23:51 <nsh22> :P
23:51 <nsh22> ]hug joday_bot
23:51 <ljrbot> nsh22 hugs joday_bot because they like them
23:51 <joda_bot> wrtlprnft: congratulations
23:52 <wrtlprnft> thanks
23:52 <BabyBug> nsh22, try typing "jod" and then press the tab key...
23:52 <joda_bot> because "they" like them ?
23:52 <nsh22> yay it worked
23:52 <nsh22> ]hug joda_bot
23:52 <ljrbot> nsh22 hugs joda_bot because they like them
23:52 <wrtlprnft> they means you don't know if it's he or she
23:52 <joda_bot> the plural royalis for "nsh22"
23:53 <nsh22> well the bot doesnt know how to differntiate so....
23:53 <BabyBug> they can be singular aswell
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23:53 <nsh22> #tickle me
23:53 <nsh22> it dont work...
23:57 <luke-jr> hm
23:57 <luke-jr> wtf, ender never paid his first month's bill
23:57 <luke-jr> -.-
23:57 <nsh22> uh oh!
23:58 <luke-jr> ]last --from ender
23:58 <ljrbot> luke-jr: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 1000 messages.
23:58 <luke-jr> ]last --from e_n_d_e_r
23:58 <ljrbot> luke-jr: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 1000 messages.
23:58 <luke-jr> #last --from e_n_d_e_r
23:58 <luke-jr> #last --from ender
23:58 <luke-jr> #lastseen ender
23:58 <@armabot> luke-jr: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 50000 messages.
23:58 <luke-jr> :/
23:59 <luke-jr> f u bots
23:59 <@armabot> luke-jr: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 50000 messages.
23:59 <joda_bot> luke-jr: no :-)
23:59 <luke-jr> joda_bot: ?
23:59 <@armabot> luke-jr: timed out
23:59 <joda_bot> luke-jr: "f u bots" ... no
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23:59 <joda_bot> Ragequit ?
23:59 <joda_bot> lol

Log from 2009-03-12:
--- Day changed Thu Mar 12 2009
00:18 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r933 Fixed protected element access errors.... || [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r932 More tweaks, and now there's one attacker and one defender.... || [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r931 Attackers now only rarely die by accident.... || [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r930 Tweaked attacker....
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00:30 <Zurd> anyone familular with XAMPP?
00:31 <luke-jr> nope
00:31 <Zurd> hmmm
00:31 <luke-jr> Zurd: http://lightfoot.dashjr.org/?page=vps
00:31 <luke-jr> Zurd: one day special, if you're interested ;)
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00:44 <Zurd> damnit, why do you tempt me so!
00:45 <Zurd> you know i want it, can i order it, and post pone it to 3 months from now?
00:46 <Zurd> ARG!
00:46 <nsh22> btw, THAT DEAL IS GODLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
00:46 <Zurd> damnit
00:46 <luke-jr> Zurd: O.o?
00:46 <Zurd> i want it!!!!!!!!!!
00:46 <nsh22> i want it, but i wouldnt know what to do with it
00:46 <luke-jr> XD
00:47 <nsh22> zurd, why dont you get it?
00:47 <Zurd> >.<
00:47 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: do you have UK vps in pipeline?
00:47 <Zurd> i neeeeeed it too
00:47 <nsh22> no money zurd?
00:47 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: I'm looking for a good deal in Europe :p
00:47 <Zurd> i got money, just dont know weather to spend it...
00:47 <nsh22> just do it, its the deal of the century
00:48 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: good good :), I'm thinking of moving to eurpe :)
00:48 <luke-jr> O.o
00:48 <Zurd> neal why dont you get it, and cancle your server with him, and host 3 more server in its place!
00:48 <nsh22> and luke is too cheap to do it again :P
00:48 <PinkTomato> my VPS, I mean :)
00:48 <luke-jr> Zurd: shhh
00:48 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: ah
00:48 <nsh22> because i have no clue how to set it up and i wouldnt be able tp get the ct+sty patches and all the goodies
00:48 <luke-jr> XD
00:49 <Zurd> neal, if i pay for half and you pay for half?
00:49 <nsh22> unless lukes wants to do it (which i highly doubt):P
00:49 <Zurd> hmmm?
00:49 <nsh22> hmmm....
00:49 <nsh22> how big?
00:49 <Zurd> the 7$ one?
00:49 <nsh22> the 5 gbs?
00:50 <nsh22> cuz its 8 dollars CAN (which is awesome!)
00:50 <Zurd> if you want the 9$ then your paying 5$ and i'll pay 4 xP
00:50 <luke-jr> <.<
00:50 <nsh22> im in canadian so....
00:50 <Zurd> i think we're making luke nervous
00:51 <Zurd> what do you think neal?
00:52 <Zurd> luke-jr: where are they hosted?
00:53 <luke-jr> Zurd: either Connecticut or Georgia for now
00:53 <nsh22> luke-jr: have you sold $50 worth yet?
00:56 <luke-jr> nsh22: not one :<
00:56 <nsh22> luke-jr: so is the offer still being offered?
00:57 <luke-jr> for 4 more hours
00:57 <nsh22> have you been advertising it?
00:57 <luke-jr> I posted in the forums
00:57 <luke-jr> and told everyone like 10 times on DDL
00:57 <luke-jr> <.<
00:58 <nsh22> and you wont extend the sale i take it?
00:59 <luke-jr> I have to let them know if I want the server in 4 hours :p
01:00 <nsh22> oh
01:00 <nsh22> and the server is $50  i presume?
01:01 <luke-jr> ☺
01:02 <nsh22> ... we may make a conditional offer
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01:09 <Zurd> luke-jr, neal: join #zurd
01:09 <Zurd> or #armalukechat
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01:22 <joda_bot> ping
01:22 <joda_bot> someone awake ?
01:22 <nsh22> PONG!
01:22 <joda_bot> P4: still up ?
01:22  * Zurd yawns greatly
01:22 <joda_bot> ah nsh22 interested in testing a teamspeak alternative ?
01:23 <nsh22> erm... buy one of lukes vps' and i will
01:23 <nsh22> but i g2g soon
01:23 <nsh22> i need him to sell $50 worth of shit so i get my god deal, their half off if he does
01:24 <joda_bot> nsh22: whatever you're talking about
01:24 <nsh22> joda_bot: http://lightfoot.dashjr.org/?page=vps
01:24 <nsh22> buy one
01:26 <nsh22> luke-jr: are your tron servers half off too?
01:27 <joda_bot> nsh22: no :D
01:27 <luke-jr> nsh22: yeah, same thing
01:28 <nsh22> oh... i did not know that...
01:34 <nsh22> any1????
01:40 <Zurd> http://lightfoot.dashjr.org/?page=vps
01:43 <luke-jr> …
01:44 <nsh22> btw luke, whats a good irc client for ubuntu (i got it finnaly)
01:45 <luke-jr> Kubuntu?
01:46 <nsh22> no, just the live cd my it tech teacer gave me (ubuntu 7.04) yes i kniw, its ew, but it looks good :P
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01:50 <luke-jr> nsh22: probably X-Chat then
01:50 <nsh22> kk i g2 in 10 mins...
01:53 <Zurd> how many hits to your site have you got since this offer has been made?>
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01:59 <nsh22> ok well i g2g
01:59 <nsh22> good night and tty tomorrow
01:59 <luke-jr> Zurd: dunno XD
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02:18 <Zurd> SMOOTH ICE!
02:18 <Zurd> http://lightfoot.dashjr.org/?page=vps
02:18 <Zurd> !!
02:18 <smoothice> uh
02:18 <smoothice> 1
02:19 <smoothice> not changing providers at such short notice
02:19 <smoothice> 2
02:19 <smoothice> I still get more for $10
02:19 <smoothice> or not
02:21 <Zurd> dang man, who is your provider again?
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03:09 <@armabot> lpbugs: [341491] armagetronad.real crashed with SIGSEGV - Reset screen resolution <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/341491>
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03:19 <Zurd> luke-jr: whats the update on the new offer?
03:20 <luke-jr> update?
03:20 <luke-jr> O.o?
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03:51 <luke-jr> wtf
03:51 <luke-jr> [Thu Mar 12 02:50:26 2009] [error] [client 74.233.68.37] File does not exist: /var/www/armagetron/resource/htdocs/resource/MAP_FILE
03:51 <luke-jr> -.-
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04:01 <smoothice> luke-jr: who cares?
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11:44 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1097 Sound locks are now handled via locker objects instead of...
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11:59 <joda_bot> z-man: what was that automatic bug report thing ?
11:59 <joda_bot> z-man: can we integrate some crash reporter which adds bug reports to launchpad ?
12:07 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9145 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (6 files in 3 dirs):
12:07 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
12:07 <@armabot> armagetronad: Sound locks are now handled via locker objects instead of
12:07 <@armabot> armagetronad: lock()/unlock() pairs for exception safety.
12:07 <@armabot> armagetronad: Added a couple of locks that should fix random round end crashes.
12:08 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9146 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/eSound.cpp src/engine/eSound.h): Manuel Moos: Fixed sound muting when switching sound settings.
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12:46 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1098 Fixed sound muting when switching sound settings....
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15:36 <Zurd> good morning guys and gals
15:47 <BabyBug> morning
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16:21 <Pathetique> Would anyone who actually knows how to write C++ be willing to commit a change to gGame.cpp that I made? I made a hacky include of a file "spawntime.cfg" when the server sets the game state to GS_PLAY
16:23 <Pathetique> actually the file is "scriptet.cfg"
16:24 <epsy> put the branch up then do a merge proposal
16:24 <Pathetique> lawl ^^;
16:24 <Pathetique> First I gotta find it.
16:24 <Pathetique> Cause the one I just tried fudging didn't work.
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16:26 <Pathetique> What I remember doing was just copy and pasting the everytime.cfg code and changing it to work with another file.
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16:43 <luke-jr> Pathetique: bzr branch lp:armagetronad lp:~YOURUSERNAME/armagetronad/armagetronad-spawntime-cfg
16:43 <luke-jr> Pathetique: bzr co lp:~YOURUSERNAME/armagetronad/armagetronad-spawntime-cfg
16:43 <luke-jr> *make your changes*
16:44 <luke-jr> bzr commit
16:44 <luke-jr> then use the LP website to propose a merge
16:44 <Pathetique> I've somehow managed to lose the source files for it :|
16:44 <luke-jr> lulz?
16:44 <Pathetique> kindasortalulz.
16:44 <luke-jr> you probably need to redo it with a bzr checkout anyway
16:44 <Pathetique> ic.
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16:52 <Pathetique> luke-jr: The thing is the whole point of
16:52 <Pathetique> errm
16:52 <Pathetique> The whole point of the addition I made was to make it so I could have "scripted" game events on a sty+ct server without actually running scripts like Flower Power Sumo Assault.
16:56 <luke-jr> Pathetique: how does spawntime.cfg do that?
16:57 <luke-jr> if it's not useful w/o sty/CT, you might wait until sty/CT are merged before proposing it
16:57 <luke-jr> (you can still make the branch, of course)
16:57 <Pathetique> When the server sets the game state to GS_PLAY it reads and does whatever is inside of spawntime.cfg.
16:57 <luke-jr> yeah, so? :p
16:58 <Pathetique> I had hacked it a different way before
16:58 <Pathetique> doing it when it loaded everytime.cfg
16:58 <Pathetique> but obviously that didn't work.
16:58 <luke-jr> uh?
17:00 <Pathetique> What're you "uh"-ing about?
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17:22 <Pathetique> wb
17:26 <joda_bot> Pathetique: thx
17:26 <Pathetique> :)
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18:04 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r892 merge zones-v1v2-invisible branch
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18:23 <Pathetique> Does anyone know if there was a branch that made it so when you're first respawned you're really invincible for a period of time?
18:23 <Pathetique> Meaning you weren't able to be shot and killed
18:25 <ct|kyle> Pathetique: you could still be shot, but you could also go through walls
18:25 <Pathetique> Yeah, I know.
18:26 <Pathetique> I thought I heard someone said that they figured out how to make it so when you first spawn and someone shoots at you, you don't die.
18:26 <ct|kyle> it is possible to do, I just never saw it :P
18:27 <Pathetique> would you happen to know how we could do this?
18:27  * luke-jr ponders.
18:27 <ct|kyle> not off of the top of my head
18:28 <Pathetique> keep in mind I'm not 1337 enough to know how to write C++, luke-jr
18:28 <BabyBug> s/1337/geeky/
18:28 <PinkTomato> Pathetique: that was done
18:28 <Pathetique> Hao?
18:28 <ct|kyle> s/geeky/1337
18:28 <PinkTomato> not excactly how you describe it
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18:29 <Pathetique> HOw was it done? o.0
18:29 <PinkTomato> hoop made a patch that let's a shot damage rubber rather than killing you instantly
18:29 <Pathetique> Hmm.
18:29 <PinkTomato> Oh
18:30 <PinkTomato> and that respawn patch was also done
18:30 <Pathetique> o.0
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18:30 <PinkTomato> in fact maybe it should be put into the sty branch
18:31 <Pathetique> What respawn patch? The RESPAWN_TIME one?
18:31 <ct|kyle> it is in sty_ct only not applied to all death zone type :P
18:31 <Pathetique> -.-
18:31 <PinkTomato> It checked o see if you were invincible
18:31 <PinkTomato> if you were, then no kill
18:32 <PinkTomato> that's what you meat?
18:32 <Pathetique> yes
18:32 <Pathetique> invincible --> shot doesn't kill you
18:33 <ct|kyle> I don't remember seeing that in his patch he sent me
18:33 <PinkTomato> relevant discussion: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18682
18:33 <joda_bot> Pathetique: PinkTomato: that sounds like a sane bug report :D
18:33 <Pathetique> Indeedlydoodlydoo.
18:34 <joda_bot> submit the bug (and possible patch) on launchpad, and z-man might integrate it, if it does not have undesired side effects
18:34 <Pathetique> I'll write the bug report.
18:34 <Pathetique> a "shot" zone is its own type of dz, right?
18:35 <PinkTomato> right
18:36 <PinkTomato> here's the post  with the fix that does not include death zone: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=199047&#199047
18:36 <Pathetique> I don't think we'd have to worry about people running inside of deathzones while invincible, then.
18:37 <PinkTomato> hehe :)
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18:43 <Pathetique> PinkTomato: perhaps if you take the sty+ct+ivantis branch, remove that silly shit about impersonate and /suicide and such
18:43 <Pathetique> And then upload it and propose a merge
18:43 <Pathetique> Then I think it'll happen a lot faster seeing as its already been done.
18:45 <luke-jr>     if (invulnerable_ || !invulnerable)
18:45 <luke-jr>         return invulnerable_;
18:45 <luke-jr> will I get shot for that? >.>
18:45 <Pathetique> lawl
18:45  * luke-jr adds the missing _ to the second invulnerable
18:46 <Vanhayes> #tea
18:46 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (1/32): ((BsE))-KªºT¡ç~
18:51 <PinkTomato> It doesn't match
18:51 <Pathetique> wut?
18:52 <PinkTomato> cannot find    if (!dynamicCreation_ || ( deathZoneType == TYPE_NORMAL && !team ) )
18:53 <Pathetique> oic.
18:53 <Pathetique> hmm
18:53 <Pathetique> idk, then patch it :P
18:54 <PinkTomato> has ct edited the sty patch?
18:55 <PinkTomato> oh, that was a stupid question.
18:55 <Pathetique> LOLyeahkinda :P
18:55 <PinkTomato> any idea what !dynamicCreation_  is?
19:00 <PinkTomato> Oh
19:00 <PinkTomato> it is in the name, :)
19:02 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9147 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/tron/zone/zShape.cpp): Luke Dashjr: merge zones-v1v2-invisible branch
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19:06 <PinkTomato> Pathetique: How do you make spawn's invulnerable ? I forgot :)
19:06 <Pathetique> uh
19:06 <Pathetique> LOL
19:06 <Pathetique> uh
19:07 <Pathetique> CYCLE_FIRST_SPAWN_PROTECTION
19:08 <@armabot> armacommits: [tools-php-client-trunk-work] r3 merge some abstractions for chat/cmd/auth/privmsg
19:09 <PinkTomato> Pathetique: the one that works with respawn_time?
19:10 <Pathetique> Ihnc
19:12 <PinkTomato> Pathetique: it was cycle_invulnerasble_time :)
19:12 <PinkTomato> ty anyway :)
19:12 <PinkTomato> OK
19:12 <PinkTomato> It is patched and working
19:12 <Pathetique> submit!
19:12 <Pathetique> :D
19:16 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9148 /tools/php-client/trunk/ (. armagetron-php-client.php): Luke Dashjr: merge some abstractions for chat/cmd/auth/privmsg
19:24 <PinkTomato> Pathetique: did you post bug report :)
19:24 <Pathetique> lolforgot
19:26 <Pathetique> done
19:26 <luke-jr> lulz wut
19:27 <luke-jr> dobbeyj? wtf is that?
19:29 <PinkTomato> lol
19:29 <PinkTomato> you can't choose your launchpad name
19:29 <luke-jr> eh?
19:29 <luke-jr> I chose my LP name just fine IIRC
19:30 <luke-jr> PinkTomato:  is that you?
19:30 <PinkTomato> Mine took the part before the @ from the email address I registered
19:30 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: yeap :)
19:30 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: stop forking 0.2.8 ☺
19:30 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: :)
19:48 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: you just inspired me to split invulnerability and blinking up, and make them net syncable
19:48 <Pathetique> lol
19:49 <P4> joda_bot: i was down :þ
19:50 <luke-jr> hm
19:50 <luke-jr> I should have made blinking be a tPolynomial or such
19:50 <luke-jr> controlling blinking rate
19:50 <luke-jr> but I suppose that's best left for when we can have square wave alpha
19:51 <Pathetique> or even a choice between sine, square, and triangle waves
19:51 <Pathetique> well
19:51 <luke-jr> Pathetique: I'd rather have the technicalities be math :p
19:51 <Pathetique> nvm
19:51 <luke-jr> any suggestions on a good math representation that is still simple?
19:52 <Pathetique> Square ftw
19:53 <luke-jr> square waves for alpha blinking anyhow
19:53 <Pathetique> perhaps like (in psuedo code
19:53 <Pathetique> )
19:53 <luke-jr> though I suppose a sine wave might be useful there too
19:53 <Pathetique> indeed.
19:53 <luke-jr> I'm beginning to suspect alpha shouldn't be part of tColor ;)
19:53 <Pathetique> Then you'd have to have to have a variable that holds an "acceleration" value for the wave
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19:54 <joda_bot> P4: glad your up again
19:54 <luke-jr> tPolynomial can already do that
19:54 <P4> i wish styball is as up as me :)
19:54 <P4> #si stybal
19:54 <@armabot> P4: Chico's Brake Boost Styball: Players (0/8):
19:54 <joda_bot> hehe
19:55 <luke-jr> hm
19:57 <luke-jr> so what is needed for best flexibility would be a series of tColors (or tGradients) with tWave "mix" values?
19:57 <Pathetique> sure
20:00 <joda_bot> #si stybal
20:00 <@armabot> joda_bot: Chico's Brake Boost Styball: Players (0/8):
20:00 <luke-jr> vector<pair<tColor, tWave>>
20:00 <luke-jr> ☺
20:03 -!- neSamone [i=evaldusi@187-173-70.elekta.lt] has joined #armagetron
20:03 <luke-jr> newbie?
20:06 <@armabot> lpbugs: [341875] Pigsty shots kill players even when they are just spawning and are "invincible". <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/341875>
20:06 <Pathetique> finally it shows up
20:08 <luke-jr> yeah, slow armabot -.-
20:08 <luke-jr> but it's the fault of RSS being crap
20:09 <Pathetique> indeed
20:09 <luke-jr> at least it showed yours ;)
20:12 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-net-vulnerable-blinking] r895 support syncing is-blinking over the network || [armagetronad-net-vulnerable-blinking] r894 move is-blinking logic to a function || [armagetronad-net-vulnerable-blinking] r893 allow server to determine when a cycle is or is not Vulnerab... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty-invulnerable] r892 CYCLE_KILL_INVULNERABLE function. When disabled, player is i... || [armagetronad-net-vulnera
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20:14 <epsy> yeah, lp updates it's RSS feeds not so often :/
20:15 <luke-jr> epsy: wait, that's LP's fault?
20:15 <luke-jr> wtf
20:15 <luke-jr> I assumed armabot was just taking forever to fetch
20:15 <epsy> yeah, that's the crappiest thing on lp
20:16 <epsy> #config search rss
20:16 <@armabot> epsy: supybot.plugins.Alias.aliases.davestupidwebsite"rss, supybot.plugins.Alias.aliases.davestupidwebsite"rss.locked, supybot.plugins.RSS, supybot.plugins.RSS.public, supybot.plugins.RSS.bold, supybot.plugins.RSS.headlineSeparator, supybot.plugins.RSS.announcementPrefix, supybot.plugins.RSS.announce, supybot.plugins.RSS.announce.showLinks, supybot.plugins.RSS.waitPeriod, (2 more messages)
20:16 -!- Zurd [i=629675b5@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8bc3c886b419abd6] has joined #armagetron
20:16 <luke-jr> LP + armabot should be changed to use XMPP pubsub ;)
20:17 <epsy> #config channel supybot.plugins.RSS.waitPeriod
20:17 <@armabot> epsy: Error: That configuration variable is not a channel-specific configuration variable.
20:17 <epsy> good luck with that
20:17 <epsy> #config supybot.plugins.RSS.waitPeriod
20:17 <@armabot> epsy: 300
20:17 <epsy> #config help supybot.plugins.RSS.waitPeriod
20:17 <@armabot> epsy: Indicates how many seconds the bot will wait between retrieving RSS feeds; requests made within this period will return cached results.  (Current value: 300)
20:22 -!- evaldusia [i=evaldusi@187-173-70.elekta.lt] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
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20:27 <compguygene> epsy  are you there?
20:27 <epsy> hi
20:28 <Zurd> how would i create a table that locates the members in my clan, that are on arma... on my website?
20:28 <luke-jr> hmm
20:28 <luke-jr> can a Fourier series *really* yield a square wave?
20:28 <luke-jr> or merely an approximation?
20:28 <epsy> luke-jr, only when it snows
20:29 <compguygene> epsy, i never intended to offend
20:29 <epsy> I don't feel offended.
20:29 <compguygene> good
20:30 <compguygene> i was concerned that i had hurt your feelings
20:30 <compguygene> it was never my intention to "take over your tourney"
20:30 <Zurd> ping
20:30 <epsy> Zurd,
20:30 <epsy> #help lastseen
20:30 <@armabot> epsy: (lastseen <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/lastseen.php?player=@1+@2+@3+@4+@5+@6+@7+@8+@9".
20:31 <Zurd> epsy, what do you mean?
20:31 <epsy> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/lastseen.php?player=
20:31 <epsy> you could use that
20:32 <Zurd> but i cant just copy that code and have it follow my members, can i o.O
20:32 <epsy> well no
20:33 <Zurd> or can i, with permission from wrtlprnft?
20:33 <compguygene> just so you know...i am starting up a new tourney..for now i am going to use the wiki to coordinate things
20:33 <epsy> yes, he allows it's use
20:34 <epsy> you can also use
20:34 <epsy> #help armaservers
20:34 <Zurd> whats that?
20:34 <epsy> #help onlineservers
20:34 <@armabot> epsy: (armaservers <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/armaservers.php".
20:34 <compguygene> i will consider your offer of the webesite
20:34 <@armabot> epsy: (onlineservers <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "armaservers $*".
20:34 <epsy> sorry, I'll bbl
20:34 <Zurd> ttyl thank you
20:35 <compguygene> epsy thanks for everything...c u later
20:35 <MaZuffeR> luke-jr, i would say an infinite Fourier series can yield a square wave
20:35 <compguygene> zurd
20:35 <epsy> Zurd, also, there's one which returns an XML file
20:35 <epsy> can't remember it though
20:36 <Zurd> ok, i'll look
20:36 <luke-jr> MaZuffeR: yeah, but that would require infinite bandwidth?
20:37 <Zurd> wrtlprnft, you here?
20:38 <MaZuffeR> i guess, but i don't think you need that many terms to get a good enough approximation
20:39 <luke-jr> MaZuffeR: why approximate? :p
20:47 <luke-jr> MaZuffeR: you understand this stuff?
20:47 <Zurd> #lastseen
20:47 <@armabot> Zurd: Usage: #lastseen [-f] <nick> -OR- #lastseen -g <nick>@<authority>
20:47 <MaZuffeR> Fourier series? to some extent
20:48 <luke-jr> MaZuffeR: what variables would be needed to convey a fourier series over the network? ☺
20:50 <Zurd> can i search more than one person using the lastseen.php?
20:50 <luke-jr> MaZuffeR: do you have time to help me code this? XD
20:50 <MaZuffeR> not really
20:50 <luke-jr> MaZuffeR: will you later? :/
20:51 <MaZuffeR> tomorrow maybe
20:51 <luke-jr> hmm
20:52 <AshitakA> was sind join/part nachrichten?
20:54 <AshitakA> oops
20:54 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50871F4B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron
20:54 <luke-jr> hi z-man
20:55 <z-man> guru3: moar spam: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=204696#204696
20:56 <Zurd> big z-man is here
20:57 <luke-jr> z-man: do you know Foruier series stuff?
20:57 <z-man> sure.
20:57 <luke-jr> z-man: any idea on making that replace tFunction and tPolynomial? ☺
20:57 <z-man> replace, no :)
20:58 <luke-jr> O.o
20:58 <z-man> fourier series are strictly only for periodic functions.
20:58 <luke-jr> can't have one represent a sawtooth with an infinite interval?
20:58 <z-man> (they're sums of terms of the form sin(n x) and cos( n x) with n in Z)
20:59 <z-man> what's a sawtooth with infitnite interval?
21:00 <z-man> Fourier series and transforms (which are useless to us, because they're again arbitrary functions) only work on functions that are square integrable.
21:02 <luke-jr> z-man: a sawtooth wave, where the tooth never ends ;)
21:02 <z-man> so, a linear function? :)
21:02 <z-man> That won't be square integrable, I'm afraid.
21:02 <luke-jr> right, doesn't it apply to polynomials as well?
21:02 -!- AshitakA [n=AshitakA@pD9E0131A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #armagetron ["...See ya!"]
21:02 <z-man> no.
21:03 <z-man> We'd need both polynomials and fourier series.
21:03 <z-man> polynomials for stuff that's defined piecewise, and fourier series for periodic crap.
21:03 <z-man> probably best to go with a sum of a polynomial and a fourier series.
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21:06 <luke-jr> hmm
21:06 <luke-jr> so how do we get those combined easily? ☺
21:07 <luke-jr> and in a way that gets us infinite fourier series necessary for square waves
21:09 <guru3> z-man: i didn't even notice that ><
21:10 <BabyBug> is guru the only person who can get rid of spam? :|
21:10 <guru3> yes
21:10 <guru3> all hail me
21:10 <BabyBug> how silly =P
21:10 <guru3> not really
21:11  * BabyBug raises an eyebrow
21:11 <guru3> fortunately, it's one of those things i don't have to explain
21:17 -!- neSamone [i=evaldusi@187-173-70.elekta.lt] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)]
21:21  * joda_bot listens to guru3's spam filtering
21:22 <BabyBug> guru is spam
21:24  * z-man has limited spam filtering capabilities in the test servers subforum
21:28 <BabyBug> well you're just overfilling with usefulness arn't you 8-)
21:32 -!- emmy_arma [n=peiaeman@pc240018.static.is.airbites.ro] has joined #armagetron
21:33 <joda_bot> z-man: did concord organize the last ladle ?
21:33 <z-man> no.
21:33 <z-man> oh wait, maybe.
21:34 <z-man> why are you asking me? I don't pay attention to stuff like that :)
21:36 <luke-jr> z-man: so there's really no unified way to represent all the waves or a polynomial?
21:36 <z-man> There is, arbitrary functions :)
21:36 <luke-jr> well, then that's vValue, but it does far more than that XD
21:37 <luke-jr> and also difficult to reduce to tPolynomial or tFunction (with updates)
21:38 <joda_bot> z-man: just trying to figure out, who is in charge of tournaments usually :D
21:40 <joda_bot> lazy me, I'll just check the wiki or forum
21:42 -!- Zurd [i=629675b5@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8bc3c886b419abd6] has quit ["http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client"]
21:46 <Vanhayes> joda_bot: i think it was a few people that organised it
21:47 <Vanhayes> i think maybe 2020 and durka helped it
21:51 <joda_bot> Vanhayes: thx, I'll talk to 2020 but I'm not really sure but is there some documentation about who is charge or organises it ... because I'd like to learn abit about how it's organised to be able to help (if there is demand)
21:54 <Vanhayes> well im not to sure how it works anymore but iirc it was all player organised before so im sure theyd love extra help
22:00 <BabyBug> wrtlprnft, cafe is really jumpy lately =\
22:01 <Vanhayes> #tea
22:01 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (7/32): Guybrush, preSs, Sithy (Sithy@forums), Sugarpuff, ß|AoS|, Vanhayes, ~|DS|~AshitakA
22:01 <Vanhayes> BabyBug: who are you in there?
22:02 <BabyBug> Sugarpuff
22:02 <BabyBug> just left
22:02 <Vanhayes> ah ok
22:14 -!- ivantis [n=ivantis@63-245-159-78.kitusa.com] has joined #armagetron
22:24 -!- nsh22 [n=neal@unaffiliated/nsh22] has joined #armagetron
22:25 <nsh22> hi hi hi
22:25 -!- arrow [n=euclid@adsl-dyn40.78-99-184.t-com.sk] has left #armagetron []
22:25 <nsh22> luke-jr: how di dyour sale go?
22:31 <joda_bot> z-man: heh, ok atleast the main mumble devs is hanging out in #mumble :D
22:37 <epsy> kay, it's now just about being able to build both client and server
22:38 <epsy> oh, and writing an actual version tag, too >.>
22:40 <joda_bot> z-man: incoming information transfer :D
22:40 <epsy> I wonder if it builds on other platforms as linux
22:41 <epsy> than *
22:41 <joda_bot> (22:34:41) joda_bot: ok, we (armagetronad.net) just discovered this your software :-)
22:41 <joda_bot> (22:35:41) Hijacker: haha nice used to play that with a friend
22:41 <joda_bot> (22:35:43) Hijacker: fun game ;)
22:41 <joda_bot> (22:35:51) joda_bot: and I just wanted to see if any of the your developers can give us a pointer how to integrate some basic support for mumble into armagetronad :D
22:41 <joda_bot> (22:35:53) nsh22: yes, it is
22:41 <joda_bot> (22:36:07) Hijacker: joda_bot: http://mumble.sourceforge.net/Link
22:41 <joda_bot> (22:36:09) slicer: I can get to love these disks. Installing ET took less than 30 seconds. With the patches :)
22:41 <joda_bot> (22:36:26) Hijacker: joda_bot: that'll give your game positional audio support for mumble
22:41 <joda_bot> (22:36:32) Hijacker: slicer: what "disks"?
22:41 <joda_bot> (22:36:59) slicer: Hijacker: new SSDs.
22:41 <joda_bot> (22:37:03) Hijacker: ahh :)
22:41 <joda_bot> (22:37:03) Hijacker: nice
22:41 <joda_bot> (22:37:13) joda_bot: Hijacker: will it work for clients too ? or would the armagetronad server have to be combined with the mumble server ?
22:41 <joda_bot> (22:38:12) slicer: joda_bot: That is a clientside-only change.
22:41 <joda_bot> (22:38:28) Hijacker: joda_bot: this code needs to be added to the clientside of armagetronad. it will then communicate with mumble just fine.
22:41 <epsy> joda_bot, services are watching
22:41 <joda_bot> epsy: did my message get through ? :D
22:41 <epsy> [23:41] <joda_bot>: (22:38:28) Hijacker: joda_bot: this code needs to be added to the clientside of armagetronad. it will then communicate with mumble just fine.
22:42 <epsy> (that being the last received message)
22:43 <epsy> so better use pastebin, huh
22:43 <joda_bot> no it worked
22:43 <joda_bot> I guess
22:43 <epsy> services are watching, still
22:44 <joda_bot> epsy: ?!?!
22:44 <joda_bot> teach me, I don't understand what you're talking about ?
22:44 <epsy> * TITANIC quit (Excess flood)
22:45 <z-man> joda_bot: yeah, I had seen that page.
22:45 <joda_bot> ah good
22:46 -!- MaZuffeR [n=mazuffer@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has quit ["Ex-Chat"]
22:46 <joda_bot> z-man: how complicated / protocol version breaking would it be to add a url for the mumble server to the server info ?
22:46 <epsy> should OSX dedicated be built as an application bundle or not?
22:46 <z-man> on the trunk? Not at all.
22:47 <z-man> but why the server info and not just a setting you receive once you log into the server?
22:47 <nsh22> hey, was it intentional for 0.2.8.3 to not have colour code capability?
22:48 <z-man> that's not even out yet :)
22:48 <nsh22> ... 0.2.8.3beta then
22:48 <z-man> And yes, some color code filtering is intentional.
22:48 <z-man> for example, colored chat is much more likely to be considered spam.
22:49 <nsh22> like i t doesnt even allow you to put it in. it just displays the colour code, not the colour
22:49 <epsy> feature not a bug
22:49 <epsy> it's just so you can easily edit it
22:49 <nsh22> ah
22:49 <epsy> actually it should show both color code and color
22:50 <epsy> #armacommits
22:50 <@armabot> epsy: [armagetronad-net-vulnerable-blinking] r895 support syncing is-blinking over the network || [armagetronad-net-vulnerable-blinking] r894 move is-blinking logic to a function || [armagetronad-net-vulnerable-blinking] r893 allow server to determine when a cycle is or is not Vulnerab... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty-invulnerable] r892 CYCLE_KILL_INVULNERABLE function. When disabled, player is i... (5 more messages)
22:50 <epsy> *sigh*
22:51 <epsy> oh, meh
22:51 <epsy> damn clock >.>
22:51 <epsy> https://code.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/trunk-cmake
22:52 <epsy> I send revisions in the future
22:53 <joda_bot> z-man: ah the settings sounds easier :D
22:53 <joda_bot> z-man: would mumble be automatically started in the background then ?
22:53 <z-man> Depends. If arma runs fullscreen, I think yes.
22:54 <z-man> but more importantly, if it already runs, the running instance does the connecting.
22:55 <joda_bot> hm, might make more sense not to start it in background, atleast until we know the player configured his mumble setup
22:55 <z-man> The automatic starting will be off by default.
22:55 <z-man> (I'd say.)
22:56 <nsh22> maybe have an option in preferences?
22:56 <z-man> yep.
22:56 <joda_bot> hm, I thought we might do a suggestion installer :D
22:56 <joda_bot> which offers to download and install mumble too :D
22:56 <joda_bot> just to make it easier for the windows users atleast, no idea about MacOS X ...
22:56 <nsh22> which release wouldf this be under, 0.2.8.4 or like 0.4?
22:56 <z-man> 0.4.
22:58 <nsh22> when do we go to 0.4? (i.e. like after 0.2.8.3?)
22:58 <z-man> when 0.3 is ready.
22:59 <z-man> We'll definitely have to clean up sound and stuff first.
22:59 <nsh22> eta?
22:59 <z-man> when it's done.
22:59 <z-man> But we'll try to make the 0.3 versions as usable as possible.
22:59 <nsh22> okey dokey
23:00 <epsy> yeah, we're  gonna have no stable release series for a little while after 0.2.8.3
23:00 <epsy> sadly
23:00 <nsh22> i predict 0.4 (or if we go really fast) to be released on or around december 21, 2012 :P
23:00 <nsh22> for anyone who knows that theory :P
23:00 <epsy> we gotta be really fast then
23:01 <nsh22> LIGHT SPEED!
23:01 <epsy> yeah, damn lightspeed
23:01 <epsy> I mean - lightcycle speed
23:01 -!- pruWord [n=pruWord@p54A63BE3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #armagetron
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23:01 <epsy> oh crap
23:01 <nsh22> lmao
23:01 <z-man> actually, lightspeed would be bad for development :)
23:01 <joda_bot> epsy: oh noooos :D not lightcycle speed :D
23:01 <epsy> that's going to be slow :)
23:01 <pruWord> my clan has a crisis
23:01 <z-man> what with all that time stopping business.
23:01 <pruWord> go on trongame.de if you want to save it
23:01 <nsh22> NANO LIGHHTCYCLE SPEED!!!! muhahahaha
23:01 <pruWord> xD
23:02 <joda_bot> pruWord: how will that safe the clan ?
23:02  * epsy has lightspeed, only for his connection, though
23:02 <nsh22> extrordinarily slow
23:02 -!- zurd [i=629675b5@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9a1c89646a35d4f8] has joined #armagetron
23:02 <nsh22> ZURD!
23:02 <pruWord> 3 of our best members quit....
23:02 <nsh22> your highness...
23:02 <joda_bot> pruWord: why ?
23:02 <nsh22> word, why?
23:02 <joda_bot> heh
23:02 <nsh22> and whom?
23:02 <epsy> he accidentally the whole thing
23:02 <zurd> hey nsh32
23:03 <nsh22> ...
23:03 <pruWord> 1st because he thinks we have too many members (while it was he who wanted a demcratic nclan"
23:03 <nsh22> WHO???
23:03 <pruWord> ), 2nd because chiko is making a fool of him in ctf and he takes a new name
23:03 <pruWord> and third is our cofounder who leaves because the 2 others do
23:03 <pruWord> lol
23:04 <nsh22> who quit?
23:04 <pruWord> tags, HadroN , opeth
23:04 <zurd> ccc?
23:04 <nsh22> oh...
23:04 <Vanhayes> what is pru?
23:04 <pruWord> at least tags said he maybe comes back
23:04 <pruWord> yes ccc
23:04 <pruWord> = had
23:04 <zurd> pru is a clan called please res us
23:05 <Vanhayes> a ctf clan then?
23:05 <zurd> yes
23:05 <pruWord> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=PLZ_RES_US!
23:05 <pruWord> lol i '' change it soon
23:05 <nsh22> luke-jr: PING!!!!
23:06 -!- pruWord [n=pruWord@p54A63BE3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com"]
23:07 <nsh22> #ping luke-jr
23:07 <@armabot> pong
23:09 <joda_bot> you'd think if a leader is not happy with his clan, then he could just change it ... I guess they just got bored and need a break :-)
23:09 <joda_bot> #help ping
23:09 <@armabot> joda_bot: (ping takes no arguments) -- Checks to see if the bot is alive.
23:10 <zurd> #ping luke-jr
23:10 <@armabot> pong
23:10 <joda_bot> hm, probably can't define an alias for ping :D
23:11 <zurd> #help pong
23:11 <Vanhayes> #echo #ping
23:11 <@armabot> zurd: (pong <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo ping".
23:11 <@armabot> #ping
23:11 <Vanhayes> aw
23:11 <zurd> #help zurd
23:12 <@armabot> zurd: Error: There is no command "zurd".
23:12 <nsh22> there is no help for you zurd :P
23:12 <zurd> >.<
23:12 <Vanhayes> #list alias
23:12 <@armabot> Vanhayes: monologue, r, roulette, #lags, #noob, /me, 42, aawiki, action, add, afl, aka, armaconfig, armapwnage, armaservers, armasettings, arrow, as, away, babel, ball, bigbrother, bigos, bing, botsnack, bounce, brb, bug, bugs, bye, bzr, bzrarmasty, c, cafe, calc, cat, cfg, cfg2, chainfight, chatlog, check, cheers, cinf, cink, commands, cookie, crashme, crazylate, ctos, ctwf, dance, date, (5 more messages)
23:12 <Vanhayes> wow lost of em now
23:12 <nsh22> ]list
23:12 <ljrbot> nsh22: Admin, Alias, Bible, Channel, Config, Format, Games, Karma, Later, Math, Misc, Network, Owner, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Status, Stock, User, Utilities, Weather, Web, and Yandere
23:12 <nsh22> ]list alias
23:12 <ljrbot> nsh22: roulette, /me, 8ball, a, aawiki, abstain, abstains, action, add, aka, armaconfig, blame, bzr, cheer, ding, fake, faustov, femalesheep, findyandereplayers, fist, flush, fuck, get, gishslap, give, h, hi, hug, hui, hurry, iamnotaretard, iamretard, inf, insult, is, itsalie, kcik, kill, lastseen, lbargue, lick, lickban, lock, logs, lolly, make, man, myip, nowai!, orly?, phokeu, pino, r, raep, (1 more message)
23:12 <nsh22> ]iamnotaretard
23:12 <ljrbot> aPinkTomatob cljrbotd ejoda_botf gTtech[daedalus]h iNovocainej kPinkTomatol mepsyn oNovocainep qteabotr
23:13 <zurd> ]list zurd
23:13 <ljrbot> zurd: Error: 'zurd' is not a valid plugin.
23:13 <zurd> >.<
23:13 <zurd> #list alias
23:13 <@armabot> zurd: monologue, r, roulette, #lags, #noob, /me, 42, aawiki, action, add, afl, aka, armaconfig, armapwnage, armaservers, armasettings, arrow, as, away, babel, ball, bigbrother, bigos, bing, botsnack, bounce, brb, bug, bugs, bye, bzr, bzrarmasty, c, cafe, calc, cat, cfg, cfg2, chainfight, chatlog, check, cheers, cinf, cink, commands, cookie, crashme, crazylate, ctos, ctwf, dance, date, (5 more messages)
23:13 <nsh22> ]iamretard
23:13 <ljrbot> wrtlprnft wrtlprnft P4 guru3 StickyNoob noob13 noob13 teabot tramshed fonkay ivantis madmax P4 G5 akira_arma Lizmatic ct|kyle mkzelda ivantis mkzelda Novocaine GodTodd fonkay tramshed Novocaine epsy
23:13 <Vanhayes> ?
23:13 <nsh22> #botsnack
23:13 <@armabot> /me licks nsh22
23:13 <nsh22> ...
23:13 <zurd> haha
23:14 <ivantis> whytf am i on there twice?
23:14 <nsh22> #cookie
23:14 <Vanhayes> she likes you
23:14 <@armabot> nsh22: (cookie <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "send $1 a cookie".
23:14 <nsh22> #cookie nsh22
23:14 <@armabot> I have sent a cookie to nsh22, it should arrive shortly.
23:14 <nsh22> :P
23:14 <madmax> #tea
23:14 <@armabot> madmax: Fortress Café: Players (9/32): akira, CTxGonZaP, CtxWoned, dopey, Guybrush, noob13, SolidifiedForce, Vanhayes, Z00
23:14 <nsh22> ]gishslap
23:14  * ljrbot slaps the channel around a bit with his epic gish.
23:14 <Vanhayes> wtf is a gish?
23:14 <nsh22> nother word for penis
23:14 <zurd> :o
23:14 <nsh22> i think
23:15 <Vanhayes> never heard that before
23:15 <epsy> he thinks
23:15 <nsh22> @gtfy zurd gish
23:15 <teabot> zurd: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=gish
23:15 <nsh22> go to that link, it will tell you
23:15 <nsh22> #cat
23:15 <@armabot> nsh22: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “crazy tronners wild catfight” at the moment, sorry.
23:15 <nsh22> #crazylate
23:15 <@armabot> nsh22: Babelfish has foiled our plans by changing its webpage format.
23:16 <nsh22> #ctos
23:16 <@armabot> nsh22: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo: Players (2/12): Blaze, [mho]ese
23:16 <PinkTomato> no, you should use urbandictionary for slang :)
23:16 <zurd> #night
23:16 <@armabot> Good night zurd!
23:16 <nsh22> pce
23:16 <zurd> >.<
23:16 <nsh22> #dance
23:16 <@armabot> nsh22 does the 'I killed chat' dance.
23:16 <zurd> #walk
23:16 <nsh22> #chat
23:16 <Vanhayes> #slap
23:16 <nsh22> kk ill bbl
23:16 <@armabot> Vanhayes: (slap <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "echo $who slaps $1 for being a raving moron.".
23:17 <nsh22> #slap Vanhayes
23:17 <nsh22> :P
23:17 <zurd> #help night walkers
23:17 <@armabot> nsh22 slaps Vanhayes for being a raving moron.
23:17 <@armabot> zurd: Error: There is no command "night walkers".
23:17 -!- nsh22 [n=neal@unaffiliated/nsh22] has quit ["gud bye"]
23:17 <PinkTomato> #slap #slap #slap
23:17 <@armabot> PinkTomato slaps #slap #slap for being a raving moron.
23:17 <Vanhayes> #eliza How are you today?
23:17 <zurd> #slap armabot
23:17 <@armabot> Vanhayes: What do you think?
23:17 <@armabot> zurd slaps armabot for being a raving moron.
23:17 <Vanhayes> #eliza I think you are still a bitch
23:17 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Please, watch your tongue!
23:18 <Vanhayes> #eliza fuck you i wont
23:18 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Are you afraid of sex?
23:18 <Vanhayes> #eliza you caught me
23:18 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Why do you say i caught you?
23:18 <zurd> roflmao
23:18 <PinkTomato> #eliza when will you mention my parents?
23:18 <@armabot> PinkTomato: What do you think?
23:19 <zurd> #eliza is there a word for what they call you?
23:19 <@armabot> zurd: What do you think?
23:19 <zurd> #eliza bitch?
23:19 <@armabot> zurd: Can you elaborate on that?
23:20 <Vanhayes> #eliza you are stupid
23:20 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Why do you say i are stupid?
23:20 <zurd> #eliza because you are
23:20 <@armabot> zurd: Does it bother you that i ask you that?
23:20 <zurd> #eliza i speak English...
23:20 <@armabot> zurd: Why do you say you speak english?
23:21 <PinkTomato> #eliza For a psychiatrist, shouldn't you be capitalising your 'I's?
23:21 <@armabot> PinkTomato: What do you think?
23:21 <BabyBug> .................................. more spam here than on the forums
23:22 <zurd> stop adding to it >.<
23:22 <PinkTomato> hehe, Eliza is a big time waster.
23:22 <zurd> #echo I'm stupid
23:22 <@armabot> I'm stupid
23:23 <Vanhayes> she does useful stuff to
23:23 <zurd> #clac 2+2
23:24 <PinkTomato> #calc 22 / 29
23:24 <@armabot> PinkTomato: Error: The command "calc" is available in the Alias, Google, and Math plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "calc".
23:24 <Vanhayes> #calc 2+2
23:24 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Error: The command "calc" is available in the Alias, Google, and Math plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "calc".
23:24 <BabyBug> try #g
23:24 <PinkTomato> #g 22 / 29
23:24 <@armabot> PinkTomato: 22 / 29 = 0.75862069
23:24 <zurd> #g 2+2
23:24 <@armabot> zurd: 2 + 2 = 4
23:24 <PinkTomato> No!
23:24 <PinkTomato> now I get the reference
23:24 <zurd> ohh thank you eliza, i couldnt figure that one out..
23:25 <ct|kyle> #g the answer to life the universe and everything
23:25 <Vanhayes> what reference?
23:25 <PinkTomato> that was armabot
23:25 <@armabot> ct|kyle: the answer to life the universe and everything = 42
23:25 <PinkTomato> 2 + 2 is 4.
23:25 <zurd> ROFL!
23:25 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galazy?
23:25 <Vanhayes> ah 42 finanally it all makes sense now
23:26 <PinkTomato> Vanhayes: that's the answer, but what's the question :)?
23:26 <zurd> #g (-3r + 4r2 – 3) – (4r2 + 6r – 2)
23:26 <@armabot> zurd: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
23:26 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, 6*7
23:26 <Vanhayes> the answer to life the universe and everything
23:26 <zurd> aww shes using googles calc...now i feel stupid
23:26 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: yes
23:26 <Vanhayes> #g 1 litre in gallons
23:26 <PinkTomato> or 7 by 9
23:26 <@armabot> Vanhayes: 1 litre = 0.264172052 US gallons
23:26 <ct|kyle> #base 10 14 [g 6*9]
23:27 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Error: Invalid <number> for base 10: 6 * 9 = 54
23:27 <Vanhayes> #g 1 gallon in litres
23:27 <@armabot> Vanhayes: 1 US gallon = 3.78541178 litres
23:27 <ct|kyle> #help base
23:27 <@armabot> ct|kyle: (base <fromBase> [<toBase>] <number>) -- Converts <number> from base <fromBase> to base <toBase>. If <toBase> is left out, it converts to decimal.
23:28 <zurd> #base 2.0394
23:28 <ct|kyle> #base 10 13 [g 6*9]
23:28 <@armabot> zurd: 2
23:28 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Error: Invalid <number> for base 10: 6 * 9 = 54
23:28 <zurd> :o
23:28 <PinkTomato> #g 7 * 9
23:28 <ct|kyle> #base 10 13 64
23:28 <@armabot> PinkTomato: 7 * 9 = 63
23:28 <@armabot> ct|kyle: 4C
23:28 <PinkTomato> #base 13 10 63
23:28 <@armabot> PinkTomato: 81
23:28 <ct|kyle> #base 10 13 54
23:28 <@armabot> ct|kyle: 42
23:28 <ct|kyle> :)
23:28 <PinkTomato> life is solved, ty :)
23:28 <ct|kyle> #help calc
23:28 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Error: That command exists in the Alias, Google, and Math plugins.  Please specify exactly which plugin command you want help with.
23:29 <Vanhayes> how much is gas a gallon in the states now?
23:29 <ct|kyle> #help math calc
23:29 <@armabot> ct|kyle: (math calc <math expression>) -- Returns the value of the evaluated <math expression>. The syntax is Python syntax; the type of arithmetic is floating point. Floating point arithmetic is used in order to prevent a user from being able to crash to the bot with something like '10**10**10**10'. One consequence is that large values such as '10**24' might not be exact.
23:29 <tramshed> about 1.90 here
23:29 <ct|kyle> #base 10 13 [math calc 6*9]
23:29 <@armabot> ct|kyle: 42
23:29 <tramshed> give or take ten cents depending on the gas station
23:29 <ct|kyle> there we go :P
23:29 <PinkTomato> #g 1.90 USD in GBP
23:29 <@armabot> PinkTomato: 1.90 U.S. dollars = 1.37591426 British pounds
23:30 <PinkTomato> #g 1 US gallon in litres
23:30 <@armabot> PinkTomato: 1 US gallon = 3.78541178 litres
23:30 <zurd> #g pie
23:30 <@armabot> zurd: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
23:30 <zurd> >.<
23:30 <zurd> #pi
23:30 <PinkTomato> #g 1.90 / 3.78521178
23:30 <@armabot> PinkTomato: 1.90 / 3.78521178 = 0.50195342
23:31 <zurd> #g pi
23:31 <@armabot> zurd: pi = 3.14159265
23:31 <zurd> >-< damnit
23:31 <PinkTomato> it's not 50 cents a litre is it?
23:31 <zurd> #g pi^5
23:31 <@armabot> zurd: pi^5 = 306.019685
23:31 <tramshed> sounds about right
23:31 <zurd> #g pi^12
23:31 <tramshed> math looks right
23:31 <PinkTomato> because that's ridiciolus.
23:31 <@armabot> zurd: pi^12 = 924 269.182
23:31 <Vanhayes> #g 1.90 usd in cad
23:31 <@armabot> Vanhayes: 1.90 U.S. dollars = 2.42972034 Canadian dollars
23:32 <Vanhayes> wow
23:32 <zurd> hey
23:32 <PinkTomato> 0.9 GBP in USD
23:32 <PinkTomato> #g 0.9 GBP in USD
23:32 <@armabot> PinkTomato: 0.9 British pounds = 1.24281 U.S. dollars
23:32 <Vanhayes> #g 2.42*3.78
23:32 <zurd> #g 0.9 GBP in USD
23:32 <@armabot> Vanhayes: 2.42 * 3.78 = 9.1476
23:32 <@armabot> zurd: 0.9 British pounds = 1.25172 U.S. dollars
23:32 <PinkTomato> it's $1.24 a litre here
23:32 <tramshed> thats rough
23:32 <Vanhayes> er
23:33 <tramshed> no wonder you guys have tiny cars
23:33 <Vanhayes> #g 2.42/3.78
23:33 <tramshed> I would too
23:33 <@armabot> Vanhayes: 2.42 / 3.78 = 0.64021164
23:33 <Vanhayes> we are hovering around 80 here
23:33 <zurd> #g pudding
23:33 <@armabot> zurd: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
23:33 <PinkTomato> 80 Candian cents a litre?
23:34 <zurd> #help question
23:34 <Vanhayes> ya
23:34 <@armabot> zurd: Error: There is no command "question".
23:34 <Vanhayes> went down a few months ago
23:34 <zurd> ]help
23:34 <ljrbot> zurd: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
23:34 <BabyBug> Why don't you walk instead of driving! :D
23:34 <PinkTomato> #g 0.80 CAN in GBP
23:34 <Vanhayes> used to be 1.50
23:34 <@armabot> PinkTomato: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
23:34 <tramshed> for a while here, gas about about 4.20 a gallon
23:34 <zurd> ]g 562/123
23:34 <ljrbot> zurd: Error: "g" is not a valid command.
23:34 <tramshed> then something or other happened
23:34 <PinkTomato> hehe, BabyBug I can't drive, :D
23:34 <tramshed> and it got cheap again
23:34 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, CAD not CAN :P
23:34 <zurd> #g 5^2/123
23:34 <Vanhayes> ya i was in the states when it was up there
23:34 <@armabot> zurd: (5^2) / 123 = 0.203252033
23:34 <tramshed> I think it was because everyone just stopped buying gas
23:34 <epsy> #armacommits
23:34 <@armabot> epsy: [armagetronad-net-vulnerable-blinking] r895 support syncing is-blinking over the network || [armagetronad-net-vulnerable-blinking] r894 move is-blinking logic to a function || [armagetronad-net-vulnerable-blinking] r893 allow server to determine when a cycle is or is not Vulnerab... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty-invulnerable] r892 CYCLE_KILL_INVULNERABLE function. When disabled, player is i... (5 more messages)
23:34 <PinkTomato> # 0.8 CAD in GBP
23:34 <epsy> wow..
23:34 <epsy> oh
23:35 <epsy> I get it >.>
23:35 <PinkTomato> epsy: ?
23:35 <epsy> it doesn't list commits in the future anyway
23:35 <zurd> #help /msg
23:35 <epsy> also, if anybody wants to try building arma with cmake
23:35 <@armabot> zurd: Error: There is no command "/msg".
23:35 <epsy> it should work OK
23:35 <BabyBug> epsy, the point of building with cmake would be?
23:36 <epsy> testing
23:36 <BabyBug> lp branch?
23:36 <Vanhayes> tramshed: i think it might have more to do with the economy crashing and a barrel of oil going fo 40 instead of 100+ a barrel now
23:37 <epsy> https://code.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/trunk-cmake
23:39 <PinkTomato> epsy: is there a readme there?
23:39 <epsy> cmake . then make
23:39 <PinkTomato> no bootstrap??
23:39 <epsy> I'll have to do that later :)
23:39 <epsy> "cmake ." is basically the bootstrap part
23:39 <epsy> and also the configure part
23:40 <PinkTomato> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop.
23:40 <PinkTomato> never used cmake :)
23:40 <PinkTomato> oh, don't worry
23:40 <epsy> you didn't run "cmake ."
23:41 <PinkTomato> I did, but: WARNING: This project requires version 2.6 of CMake.  You are running version 2.4.7.
23:41 <BabyBug> CMakeLists.txt:159:
23:41 <BabyBug> Parse error.  Function missing ending ")".  Instead found left paren with text "(".
23:41 <BabyBug> epsy ^^
23:41 <BabyBug> when i run cmake .
23:41 <epsy> ah, what distro are you using?
23:41 <PinkTomato> I get the same as BabyBug
23:41 <PinkTomato> ubuntu 8.04
23:42 <epsy> BabyBug, ubuntu & cmake versions?
23:42 <BabyBug> 9.04  - cmake: 2.6.2-1ubuntu1
23:42 <ivantis> guess what?
23:43 <ivantis> oh nvm i forgot this was the channel where everyone hates me
23:43 <epsy> BabyBug, if you remove all parenthesis except the englobbing ones at line 159, does it work?
23:45 <ct|kyle> #dict englobbing
23:45 <@armabot> ct|kyle: No definition for "englobbing" could be found.
23:45 <BabyBug> epsy, what? :|
23:45 <ivantis> #g englobbing
23:45 <@armabot> ivantis: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
23:45 <ivantis> #google englobbing
23:45 <ct|kyle> #google search define:englobbing
23:46 <@armabot> ivantis: Search took 0.46 seconds: InriaGforge: ProActive NBody: dépôt de sources: <http://gforge.inria.fr/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/src/org/objectweb/proactive/examples/nbody3D/common/PlanetDescription.java?rev=31&root=nbody&view=auto>; PlanetDescription.java ...: <http://proactive.inria.fr/3.90/ProActive_src_html/org/objectweb/proactive/examples/nbody/common/PlanetDescription.java.html>; (2 more messages)
23:46 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Search took 0.27 seconds: Uncertain Principles: The Framing Fracas: <http://scienceblogs.com/principles/2008/04/the_framing_fracas.php>
23:46 <epsy> BabyBug, if you change line 159 to
23:46 <epsy> if( NOT BUILDCLIENT AND NOT DEDICATEDONLY AND BUILD )
23:47 <BabyBug> epsy, ok that seems to be working :)
23:47 <epsy> and I probably let an "inexistant somewhere around line 88"
23:47 <epsy> more that quote
23:47 <ct|kyle> that was my guess for englobbing definition
23:47 <epsy> move *
23:47 <Vanhayes> #g (447-63)/2
23:47 <@armabot> Vanhayes: (447 - 63) / 2 = 192
23:48 <BabyBug> yeh, what's that inexistant error about?
23:48 <BabyBug> can i just ignore that?
23:48 <epsy> just something I put in for testing and which I apparently forgot to remove
23:48 <epsy> it's at line 88
23:48 <epsy> just remove it
23:48 <BabyBug> kk
23:49 <BabyBug> make has pretty colours! :D
23:49 <epsy> haha
23:51 <epsy> maybe you will need to type make armagetronad
23:51 <epsy> otherwise it will try to build both dedicated and client and it will fail
23:51 <BabyBug> Hrmm
23:52 <zurd> luke-jr: PING
23:52 <BabyBug> yes, yes it does
23:53 <BabyBug> gets all the way to 99% and...phail :(
23:53 <epsy> yeah, hehe
23:53 <BabyBug> make: *** No rule to make target `armagetronad'.  Stop.
23:53 <ivantis> wow
23:53 <ivantis> a bunch of armagetron related words here
23:54 <ivantis> http://www.lightspeedsystems.com/Archive/WebsiteDetails.aspx?domain=space-lab.us
23:54 <ivantis> look on unique words
23:54 <epsy> indeed, something's wrong
23:54 <epsy> it seems to be thinking client can't be built
23:54 <BabyBug> =(
23:54 <epsy> ah
23:54 <epsy> line 214
23:54 <BabyBug> of?
23:54 <epsy> if(BUILDCLIENT)
23:54 <epsy> that's the most annoying thing in cmake
23:55 <epsy> it's if(VAR) and not if(${VAR})
23:55 <BabyBug> CMake Error in CMakeLists.txt:
23:55 <BabyBug>   Cannot find source file "WIN32".  Tried extensions .c .C .c++ .cc .cpp .cxx
23:55 <BabyBug>   .m .M .mm .h .hh .h++ .hm .hpp .hxx .in .txx
23:56 <BabyBug> after the modification =)
23:56 <epsy> move it right after "armagetronad" at line 215
23:56 <epsy> yeah, that works
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Log from 2009-03-13:
--- Day changed Fri Mar 13 2009
00:00 <epsy> BabyBug, xorks?
00:00 <epsy> works *
00:00 <BabyBug> just finishing making now yup :)
00:00 <BabyBug> there's no erm, grid, morving background on the menus mind
00:01 <BabyBug> there's no grid in game either
00:01 <epsy> I've noticed that
00:01 <epsy> but thanks anyway
00:01 <BabyBug> No AI by default in Local Match either..
00:02 <epsy> maybe that was why gFloor & co were last
00:02 <epsy> will see that tomorrow
00:02 <epsy> night
00:02 <BabyBug> gdnight
00:02 -!- epsy [n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy] has quit ["Ragequit."]
00:03 <ivantis> ha ha ha
00:04 <ivantis> i had to submit goatse.fr for review
00:04 <ivantis> http://www.lightspeedsystems.com/Archive/WebsiteDetails.aspx?domain=goatse.fr#X
00:04 <ivantis> before it was marked as G
00:05 <ivantis> …
00:05 <ivantis> are those people fucking retarded?
00:05 <ivantis> http://www.lightspeedsystems.com/Archive/WebsiteDetails.aspx?domain=femse.com
00:05 <ivantis> it even has a thumbnail on there!
00:07 <zurd> luke-jr PING
00:07 <BabyBug> zurd, saying it more than once won't make him get back any quicker ;)
00:08 <zurd> but it save him from scrolling up to find it >.<
00:08 <zurd> did he say how long he would be out?
00:09 <BabyBug> newp, no one ever does on here....everyone's just plain rude and leaves without saying a word
00:10 <zurd> sarcasm, or a truth?
00:10 <BabyBug> truth
00:10 <zurd> thats not nice of them >.>
00:10 <BabyBug> every now and then someone will say night...but during the day...nothing
00:11 <BabyBug> z-man doesn't do it cause he's rude though. He does it cause he's lazy. But that also makes him the only nice person on here.
00:11  * Lizmatic loves BabyBug
00:12  * BabyBug loves Lizmatic 
00:12 <z-man> I don't say 'night because I don't want to spam
00:12  * ivantis thinks that everyone hates him
00:12 <Lizmatic> you're correct for once ivantis
00:12 <ivantis> everyone here at least
00:12 <BabyBug> z-man, you've already admitted you're lazy. Stop coming up with excuses now
00:13 <Lizmatic> who's this z-man anyway, does he play tron
00:13 <z-man> True, but that's not the reason I leave without saying something.
00:13 <ivantis> im like the opposite of one of those kids who becomes obsessed with some online social thing
00:13 <ivantis> people like me in the real world, but everyone hates me on irc
00:13 <BabyBug> Oh stop being so difficult! i payed you a compliment aswell! You could of just kept quiet :@
00:14 <BabyBug> Lizmatic, zman is zman =P
00:14 <Lizmatic> ivantis I bet that's a lie and just everyone hates you
00:14 <Lizmatic> with me its, I hate everyone in tron
00:14 <Lizmatic> and everyone IRL
00:14 <BabyBug> but loves me
00:15 <ivantis> im not the kind of guy who sits alone at lunch
00:15 <ivantis> i have a lot of friends, and not weird ones that no one else likes
00:15 <joda_bot> Lizmatic: hm, I guess you need a short history lesson :-)
00:15 <Lizmatic> do i O_O
00:15 <ivantis> "who is this z-man?"
00:15 <ivantis> God
00:16 <joda_bot> Lizmatic: z-man programmed the first version of armagetron :-) and he is (afaik) the only one who know the network and physics part of armagetron including all the underlying theory
00:16 <Lizmatic> really? gosh, I never knew
00:16 <Lizmatic> nice to meet you z-man
00:17 <BabyBug> Are you high again?
00:17 <Lizmatic> HOW DARE YOU
00:17 <Lizmatic> ID NEVER
00:17 <ivantis> gettin high?
00:17 <ivantis> oooh, you are bad
00:18 <BabyBug> how'd you figure that ivantis? it's perfectly legal =P
00:18 -!- nsh22 [n=neal@unaffiliated/nsh22] has joined #armagetron
00:18 <Lizmatic> I'm not bad, ask BB, I'm sweet
00:18 <nsh22> hero
00:19 <nsh22> herro*
00:19 <ivantis> bad things come from gettin high
00:19 <BabyBug> such as>
00:19 <BabyBug> ?
00:19 <nsh22> like youj? :P lol jk
00:19 <zurd> wb neal, no sign of luke
00:19 <nsh22> ivantis:
00:19 <nsh22> ...
00:19 <ivantis> no i never do that kind of stuff
00:19 <Lizmatic> http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/8/8a/Hot_chick_surprise.gif
00:19 <ivantis> nsh22: wat?
00:20 <nsh22> it was me adding you to my previous sentence
00:20 <joda_bot> Lizmatic: do I want to click on that link ?
00:20 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-cmake] r901 Set WIN32 flag on client builds || [trunk-cmake] r900 Have cmake complain when dependencies are not present....
00:20 <zurd> joda: no
00:20 <ivantis> joda_bot: prepare to have your mind blown
00:20 <nsh22> BabyBug: did you see the new command?
00:20 <Lizmatic> its a hot chick with a suprise
00:20 <nsh22> a chick with a dick?
00:21 <zurd> just sick and wrong,,,
00:21 <ivantis> yeah Lizmatic is high
00:21 <Lizmatic> dont be racists towards trannies
00:21 <Lizmatic> be racist towards spanish ppl
00:21 <Lizmatic> woowoo
00:21 <nsh22> Lizmatic: are you actually high?
00:22 <joda_bot> Lizmatic: are you aware that everything you say in here is stored and recorded on the net ?
00:22 <Lizmatic> eys
00:22 <Lizmatic> yes
00:22 <Lizmatic> amd
00:22 <Lizmatic> and
00:22  * joda_bot calls parents for sanity checks :-)
00:22 <Lizmatic> $_$
00:22 <nsh22> ]hug everyone
00:22 <ljrbot> nsh22 hugs everyone because they like them
00:23 <nsh22> :P
00:23 <nsh22> jk, i dont do that, it would be quite gay
00:23 <PinkTomato> or friendly
00:23 <zurd> OMFG thats so wrong... the dude looks so much like a chick
00:23 <Lizmatic> I KNOW
00:24 <ivantis> zurd: what did you want luke-jr for?
00:24 <zurd> neal and i need to talk business with him
00:25 <nsh22> OMG, that is mildly funny., he/she needs ductape :P
00:25 <zurd> lol
00:25 <nsh22> but still wrong nonetheless
00:25 <zurd> yes
00:25 <Lizmatic> RACISESTS
00:26 <nsh22> i never said the fact of being a tranny was wrong
00:26 <Lizmatic> did so
00:26 <Lizmatic> im sometimes a tranny but 2day im a helicoptergirl
00:26 <nsh22> the fact that (s)he tucked his/her dick back inside his/herself is
00:26 <zurd> and how us that racistest...you need a dictionary...
00:26 <nsh22> what exactly are you high on, i want some :P
00:27 <Lizmatic> huhu
00:27 <nsh22> ???
00:27  * Lizmatic flys her helikoptur!
00:27 <PinkTomato> run away!
00:27 <joda_bot>  /cmd silence spammers :D
00:28 -!- akira_arma [n=chatzill@77-64-161-27.dynamic.primacom.net] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.7/2009021910]"]
00:30 <Lizmatic> babybug
00:30 <Lizmatic> marry me!!
00:30 <BabyBug> i'm slowly getting nervous about you blurting something out...
00:31 <Lizmatic> teeeeehe
00:31 <Lizmatic> we have lots of sekrets
00:31 <Lizmatic> i should blurt stuf out
00:31 <BabyBug> ...
00:32 -!- smoothice [n=smoothic@97-118-165-122.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #armagetron
00:33 <nsh22> SMOOTH!!!!!!!!!!
00:33 <smoothice> NSH22!!!!!!!!!!!
00:33 <nsh22> MSN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
00:34 <ivantis> calm down!!!!!!!!!
00:34 <smoothice> ok!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
00:34 <Lizmatic> you guis homos`/?\
00:34 <Lizmatic> gonna cybe rlikeme n babybug???
00:34 <BabyBug> :| Shut up woman ><
00:35 <joda_bot> can someone for their own safety kick and ban Lizmatic. (S)he can not be hold responsible for her actions ...
00:35 <Lizmatic> arnet you a bot
00:36 <nsh22> BabyBug: plz do the above requested action lol
00:36 <Lizmatic> what!!!!
00:36 <Lizmatic> bb lhoves me :((
00:36 <ivantis> no this is entertaining
00:36 <BabyBug> #kick Lizmatic love makes us do terrible things!
00:36 <Lizmatic> HA
00:36 <Lizmatic> NUB
00:36 <BabyBug> ><
00:36 <nsh22> if she loved you, she would protect you from harming yourself
00:36 -!- Lizmatic [n=Lizmatic@78-27-12-206.dsl.alice.nl] has left #armagetron [requested by armabot: "love makes us do terrible things!"]
00:36 <BabyBug> take ya time armabot
00:36 -!- Lizmatic [n=Lizmatic@78-27-12-206.dsl.alice.nl] has joined #armagetron
00:37 <Lizmatic> but like
00:37 <Lizmatic> isnt jodhabot a bot
00:37 <BabyBug> No
00:37 <Lizmatic> how cn he typ lik that
00:37 -!- sinewav [n=sinewav@adsl-76-197-246-93.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #armagetron
00:37 <joda_bot> yeah, but I'm caring and friendly bot, and right now I think it's best for you to either chat privatly in your own channel. Get some rest or do something offline were you don't leave clues to your activies for future employers ...
00:37 <joda_bot> I'm *a* caring
00:38 <joda_bot> #ban
00:38 <joda_bot> #help ban
00:38 <@armabot> joda_bot: Error: There is no command "ban".
00:38 <nsh22> smoothice: your version of msn doesnt support nidges....
00:38 <PinkTomato> nsh22: why are you nudging?
00:38 <PinkTomato> what's wrong with /msg
00:38 <Lizmatic> futur epmoyees?
00:38 <nsh22> to get hs attention
00:38 <Lizmatic> are you american>
00:38 <Lizmatic> amerikans ar usually parranoid
00:39 <PinkTomato> joda_bot: is not american I think
00:39 <Lizmatic> haha a talking tomato
00:39 <PinkTomato> bot was european I Think
00:39 <nsh22> haha a talking liz :P
00:39 <joda_bot> #help kick
00:39 <nsh22> #poll
00:39 <nsh22> #help poll
00:40 <@armabot> joda_bot: (kick [<channel>] <nick> [<reason>]) -- Kicks <nick> from <channel> for <reason>. If <reason> isn't given, uses the nick of the person making the command as the reason. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
00:40 <@armabot> nsh22: Error: There is no command "poll".
00:40 <BabyBug> Is she really doing anything ban worthy right this moment?
00:40 <joda_bot> BabyBug: no, that's not the point ...
00:40 <nsh22> being under the influence?
00:41 <joda_bot> drugs are fine by me, but she is just hurting herself in the end, and is not really responsible or brought to reason by talking
00:41 <BabyBug> well she's shut up now anyway
00:41 <ivantis> no drugs are baad
00:42 <joda_bot> ivantis: stop playing armagetron then
00:42 <ivantis> very very bad
00:42 <Lizmatic> hurting meself?
00:42 <Lizmatic> YOUR RIGHT
00:42 -!- sinewave [n=sinewav@adsl-76-197-246-93.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #armagetron
00:42 <Lizmatic> i elfell from my chair almost
00:42 <joda_bot> ivantis: don't eat sugared drings
00:42 <ivantis> i already stopped playing a while ago
00:42 <nsh22> drugs are bad, they couldve had a role in ivantis' birth :P
00:42 <joda_bot> eh drink :D
00:42 <ivantis> couldve
00:42 <ct|kyle> sinewave :(
00:42 <ivantis> but didnt
00:42 <nsh22> how do you know
00:42 <joda_bot> ct|kyle: ?
00:43 <ivantis> because im normal
00:43 <ivantis> not weird
00:43 <ivantis> like most of the people here
00:43 <ct|kyle> joda_bot: ?
00:43 <joda_bot> ct|kyle: ?
00:43 <sinewave> I left ct, thus :(
00:43 <ct|kyle> joda_bot: ?
00:43 <Lizmatic> ct is ghey
00:43 <joda_bot> sinewav: ?
00:43 <nsh22> you left ct? why?
00:43 <Lizmatic> cock ticklers
00:44 <ct|kyle> sinewave: but you still play fortress, don't you?
00:44 <BabyBug> #kban Lizmatic I'm so sorry ='(
00:44 -!- mode/#armagetron [+b *!n=Lizmatic@78-27-12-206.dsl.alice.nl] by armabot
00:44 -!- Lizmatic [n=Lizmatic@78-27-12-206.dsl.alice.nl] has left #armagetron [requested by armabot: "I'm so sorry ='("]
00:44 <BabyBug> happy joda_bot? :P
00:44 -!- Stewah [n=Stewah@cpe-76-88-116-195.san.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
00:44 <sinewave> yeah, but I like my team. Nothing against ct though.
00:44 <ivantis> everyone seen the latest?
00:44 <ivantis> http://xkcd.com/
00:44 <ivantis> ha thats a good one
00:45 <ivantis> Haiku-compliant
00:45 <joda_bot> I like the last one :-P
00:46 -!- sinewav [n=sinewav@adsl-76-197-246-93.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)]
00:46 <smoothice> hi ¥@LL!
00:46 <ct|kyle> oi smoothice
00:47 <smoothice> oi ct|kyle
00:47 <smoothice> oi BabyBug
00:47 <smoothice> oi PinkTomato
00:47 <smoothice> oi teabot
00:47 <smoothice> oi armabot
00:47 <sinewave> lol
00:47 <smoothice> lol
00:47 <BabyBug> don't highlight me for no freaking reason! :@
00:47 <joda_bot> ivantis: I think everybody has his share of "wierdness", it is just a different kind or type of "wierd" ...
00:47 <ct|kyle> hey BabyBug
00:47 <smoothice> :D
00:47 <smoothice> owned!
00:47 <smoothice> ct|kyle: :P
00:48 <ivantis> my latest employer used "lol" in Yahoo IM
00:48 <ivantis> doesnt that seem a bit odd?
00:48 <smoothice> :O
00:48 <smoothice> lol!
00:48 <nsh22> cool, noone cares
00:48 <sinewave> no
00:48 <ivantis> a grown man, saying lol
00:48 <smoothice> lol
00:48 <smoothice> Version: 0.2.8-sty+ct_alpha20090222 unix dedicated
00:48 <nsh22> lue says lol, so who cares
00:48 <sinewave> `I'm grown. watch this ---> LOL!
00:48 <smoothice> sinewave: /nick sinewav
00:49 <sinewave> fine
00:49 <smoothice> the e makes it look cruddy
00:49 <smoothice> lol
00:49 -!- sinewave is now known as sinewav
00:49 <smoothice> thank you
00:49 <smoothice> lol
00:49 <smoothice> @echo hi BabyBug
00:49 <teabot> hi BabyBug
00:50 <joda_bot> BabyBug: I hope you can explain Lizmatic why she got kicked if she is back to normal
00:50 <joda_bot> #gn
00:50 <joda_bot> gn8
00:50 <nsh22> joda_bot: thats what logs are for :P
00:50 <joda_bot> :-)
00:50 <BabyBug> joda_bot, i'm having to put up with her on msn atm =P
00:50 <BabyBug> but she loves me, she'll forgive me =P
00:50 <nsh22> lawl
00:51 <joda_bot> BabyBug: just entertain her :-), perhaps give her a link to site with funny pictures that might distract her :-)
00:51 <nsh22> BabyBug: want me to make you and liz a ] command :P i have one in mind
00:51 <joda_bot> #help kban
00:52 <nsh22> actually, nvm... the one i was thinking about would get me smote by luke-jr
00:52 <BabyBug> nsh22, no
00:52 <@armabot> joda_bot: (kban [<channel>] [--{exact,nick,user,host}] <nick> [<seconds>] [<reason>]) -- If you have the #channel,op capability, this will kickban <nick> for as many seconds as you specify, or else (if you specify 0 seconds or don't specify a number of seconds) it will ban the person indefinitely. --exact bans only the exact hostmask; --nick bans just the nick; --user bans just the user, and (1 more message)
00:52 <BabyBug> joda_bot, i'll just send her some more nudey pics...should calm her down 8-)
00:52 <BabyBug> #op
00:52 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o BabyBug] by armabot
00:52 <joda_bot> :-)
00:52 -!- mode/#armagetron [-b *!n=Lizmatic@78-27-12-206.dsl.alice.nl] by BabyBug
00:52 <ct|kyle> sinewav: now I figured out why, you were still upset about me still pwning you on your racing maps when you got in CT :P,  No I understand your disission.
00:52 <@BabyBug> #deop
00:52 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o BabyBug] by armabot
00:53 <sinewav> Yes! I will never, ever forgive! >:|
00:53 <joda_bot> nice play BabyBug ... strange thing that you're called Lizmatic , too :-P
00:53 <BabyBug> joda_bot? I'm called Lizmatic??!! What?!
00:53 <zurd> luke-jr ping
00:53 <joda_bot> Modus (-b *!n=Lizmatic@78-27-12-206.dsl.alice.nl ) von BabyBug
00:53 <BabyBug> I removed her ban...
00:53 <joda_bot> ah it's unban ...
00:53 <joda_bot> ah ok
00:54 <BabyBug> lol
00:54 <joda_bot> got me confused there
00:54 <joda_bot> time for bed I guess ...
00:54 <joda_bot> not thinking clearly
00:54 <nsh22> noight
00:54 <BabyBug> hehe, night
00:55 <zurd> #op
00:55 <@armabot> zurd: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
00:55 <zurd> >.<
00:55 <zurd> #whoami
00:55 <@armabot> zurd: I don't recognize you.
00:55 <nsh22> #whoami
00:55 <@armabot> nsh22: nsh22
00:55 <nsh22> :P
00:55 <smoothice> #whoami
00:55 <@armabot> smoothice: I don't recognize you.
00:55 <zurd> HA
00:55 <nsh22> you need to register with armabot
00:56 <zurd> how?
00:56 <nsh22> #help register
00:56 <zurd> #register Zurd
00:56 <@armabot> nsh22: (register <name> <password>) -- Registers <name> with the given password <password> and the current hostmask of the person registering. You shouldn't register twice; if you're not recognized as a user but you've already registered, use the hostmask add command to add another hostmask to your already-registered user, or use the identify command to identify just for a session. This command (1 more message)
00:56 <@armabot> zurd: Error: That operation cannot be done in a channel.
00:56 -!- joda_bot [n=anonymou@dslb-084-061-072-003.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Leaving."]
00:56 <nsh22> smoothice: FAIL!
00:57 <smoothice> nsh22: no, WIN!
00:57 <nsh22> #more
00:57 <@armabot> nsh22: (and all other commands that include a password) must be sent to the bot privately, not in a channel.
00:58 -!- luke-jr [n=luke-jr@2002:46bb:1a76:0:20e:a6ff:fec4:4e5d] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
00:58 <zurd> :o
00:58 <nsh22> FFS!
00:59 <nsh22> ok, hmwrk time!
00:59 <nsh22> #weather innisfil
00:59 <@armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Innisfil, Innisfil, Ontario is 16.7°F (7:59 PM EDT on March 12, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 3.2°F. Windchill: 8.6°F. Pressure: 30.53 in 1033.7 hPa (Rising).
01:00 <nsh22> for fuck sake
01:00 <nsh22> its fucking cold again :(
01:01 <zurd> #weather palm springs
01:01 <@armabot> zurd: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
01:01 <zurd> DAMNIT!
01:02 <nsh22> #weather palm
01:02 <@armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Reserve at Bally Spring, BARTO, Pennsylvania is 37.4°F (8:01 PM EDT on March 12, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 12.2°F. Windchill: 37.4°F. Pressure: 30.47 in 1031.7 hPa (Falling).
01:02 <nsh22> enter your zip instaid
01:02 <Vanhayes> #weather e5n 5c5
01:02 <zurd> #weather 92240
01:03 <@armabot> Vanhayes: The current temperature in Hampton High School, Hampton, New Brunswick is 20.5°F (9:02 PM ADT on March 12, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 255%. Windchill: 14.0°F. Pressure: 30.43 in 1030.4 hPa (Rising).
01:03 <@armabot> zurd: The current temperature in Palm Springs, California is 73.4°F (4:53 PM PDT on March 12, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 27%. Dew Point: 37.4°F. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011 hPa (Falling).
01:03 <Vanhayes> #finc 20.5
01:03 <@armabot> Vanhayes: -6.38888888889
01:03 <nsh22> im colder
01:03 <Vanhayes> #finc 14
01:03 <@armabot> Vanhayes: -10.0
01:03 <zurd> #inc -14
01:03 <Vanhayes> ya it was nice here today
01:04 <Vanhayes> #weather edmonton
01:04 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
01:04 <nsh22> it wasnt too bad here, -4 or sumthin
01:04 <Vanhayes> #weather t5p 2r2
01:04 <@armabot> Vanhayes: The current temperature in Sunridge Ski Area, Edmonton, Alberta is 41.5°F (6:02 PM MDT on March 12, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 19.4°F. Windchill: 39.2°F. Pressure: 30.03 in 1016.8 hPa (Falling).
01:04 <Vanhayes> wow really warm there
01:04 <nsh22> #weather h0h 0h0
01:04 <@armabot> nsh22: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
01:04 <nsh22> #weather heaven
01:05 <@armabot> nsh22: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
01:09 <zurd> where is luke!
01:09 <nsh22> fucking his wife?
01:09 <nsh22> lol
01:09 <nsh22> it always seems that where he is
01:09 <nsh22> <luke-jr> brb, sex
01:09 <zurd> >.<
01:09 <nsh22> he apparentlty wants 25 kids...
01:10  * nsh22 is listening to "what its like"
01:11  * nsh22 needs some laughs
01:11 <nsh22> #q
01:11 <ct|kyle> nsh22: no he is getting paid by the fat and ugly to have sex with them
01:11 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #86: "<luke-jr> I'm still grasping at corks to plug the holes" (added by GodTodd at 07:12 AM, January 07, 2009)
01:11 <nsh22> ct|kyle: hmmm... its a possibility
01:11 <nsh22> :P
01:11 <nsh22> #q
01:11 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #71: "<Monkey_arma> to be fair the mess the wiki is in, i cant tell spam from actual content" (added by noob7 at 10:50 PM, April 14, 2008)
01:11 <nsh22> #q
01:11 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #32: "i2020> sure you can... who told you that, little lukie wookie" (added by spidey at 07:34 PM, November 05, 2006)
01:11 <nsh22> #q
01:11 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #76: "<Lucifer> vista doesn't have the kind of boobs that KDE has" (added by ivantis at 05:54 AM, July 31, 2008)
01:11 <nsh22> :P
01:11 <ct|kyle> #quote get #crazy-tronners 2
01:11 <zurd> #q
01:12 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Quote #2: "(11:44:13) eddiefantastic: I'd rather stick my cock in a jar of honey, roll it in oats then feed it to a goat" (added by ct|kyle at 05:49 PM, December 12, 2007)
01:12 <@armabot> zurd: Quote #69: "gentoo ebuild is as broken as luke-jr himself :D ~xfroggy" (added by ct|kyle at 06:23 PM, January 26, 2008)
01:12 <nsh22> ct|kyle: LMAO
01:12 <nsh22> #q
01:12 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #23: "<spidey> you wanna fuck Luke-Jr ?" (added by Vanhayes at 01:40 AM, October 15, 2006)
01:12 <nsh22> o0
01:12 <nsh22> #q
01:12 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #49: "<ToddBot> #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo" (added by epsy at 03:52 PM, July 09, 2007)
01:12 <zurd> o.o
01:12 <nsh22> #q
01:12 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #45: "better an idiot that can admit it than a luke-jr....er, idiot that can't --GodTodd" (added by Lucifer_arma at 03:35 AM, March 12, 2007)
01:12 <nsh22> #q
01:12 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #30: "Fonkay: Are you afraid of sex? -armabot" (added by spidey at 01:02 AM, November 02, 2006)
01:12 <nsh22> #q
01:12 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #17: "And I hate dying nearly as much as I hate Vanhayes. --featherfcuk" (added by Lucifer_arma at 02:02 AM, June 14, 2006)
01:12 <nsh22> LMAO
01:12 <Vanhayes> ack
01:13 <nsh22> #q
01:13 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #36: "<Durka> HEY im a n00b" (added by spidey at 08:45 PM, December 07, 2006)
01:13 <zurd> hahaha
01:13 <nsh22> #q
01:13 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #90: "WoW is the game of satanists! -- BabyBug" (added by Pathetique at 03:24 PM, March 04, 2009)
01:13 <nsh22> that is tru
01:13 <Vanhayes> wonder whatever happened to spidey
01:13 <nsh22> #q
01:13 <zurd> #quote
01:13 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #39: "spidey sucks cow dick?" (added by Vanhayes at 01:47 AM, December 13, 2006)
01:13 <@armabot> zurd: For animals, the entire universe has been neatly divided into things to (a) mate with, (b) eat, (c) run away from, and (d) rocks. -- (Terry Pratchett, Equal Rites)
01:13 <Vanhayes> #quote get 38
01:13 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #38: "<GodTodd> hayes jerks off turkeys?" (added by spidey at 01:44 AM, December 13, 2006)
01:13 <nsh22> zurd: just use #q, #quote is gay
01:13 <nsh22> #q
01:13 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #14: "On a full moon, Christopher Walken transform in a wereworm. Not as dangerous as a werewolf, but twice as cunning. - philippeqc" (added by n54 at 07:58 PM, April 25, 2006)
01:14 <zurd> #q
01:14 <@armabot> zurd: Quote #77: "scool is easy it just makes me board --ct|kyle" (added by Lucifer_arma at 06:04 AM, July 31, 2008)
01:14 <nsh22> #q
01:14 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #31: "<Fonkay> #eliza you are stupid <armabot> Fonkay: Why do you say i are stupid?" (added by Vanhayes at 01:05 AM, November 02, 2006)
01:14 <zurd> lol
01:14 <zurd> #q
01:14 <nsh22> #q
01:14 <@armabot> zurd: Quote #62: "<tronner> armabot: *click* <armabot> tronner: You've given me 5 invalid commands within the last minute; I'm now ignoring you for 10 minutes." (added by epsy at 11:34 PM, November 16, 2007)
01:14 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #28: "i can't speel either --Fonkay" (added by Lucifer_arma at 07:38 AM, October 28, 2006)
01:14 <Vanhayes> bah keeps beeping me
01:14 <nsh22> #q
01:14 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #16: "Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it. - Brian Kernighan" (added by a user that is no longer registered at 11:21 PM, May 03, 2006)
01:14 <nsh22> LOL
01:15 <zurd> xD
01:15 <nsh22> #q
01:15 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #22: "i got a pen from a microsoft rep about 2 months ago.. already stopped working properly -- Plazma" (added by Lucifer_arma at 03:46 AM, September 19, 2006)
01:15 <nsh22> #q
01:15 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #86: "<luke-jr> I'm still grasping at corks to plug the holes" (added by GodTodd at 07:12 AM, January 07, 2009)
01:15 <nsh22> #q
01:15 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #18: "so you can't send a note to spidey or other noobs. -wrtlprnft" (added by Vanhayes at 05:23 AM, June 21, 2006)
01:15 <nsh22> #q
01:15 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #12: "'ebuild blah portage rocks emerge hotplug coldplig - armabot mashuffle'" (added by n54 at 05:44 PM, March 29, 2006)
01:15 <zurd> #q get 99
01:15 <@armabot> zurd: Quote #90: "WoW is the game of satanists! -- BabyBug" (added by Pathetique at 03:24 PM, March 04, 2009)
01:15 <Vanhayes> no 99
01:15 <zurd> >.<
01:15 <zurd> i got 90
01:15 <nsh22> #q get 89
01:15 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #3: "um, try spelling it wirght :) -- Lucifer" (added by Lucifer_arma at 06:22 AM, March 27, 2006)
01:15 <Vanhayes> and you have to say Quote get not q get
01:15 <zurd> where do you the list?
01:16 <nsh22> #q get 89
01:16 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #55: "<MrBougo> Lucifer_arma: quote me!" (added by epsy at 01:30 PM, August 12, 2007)
01:16 <nsh22> #q get 89
01:16 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #57: "* epsy runs away from MrBougo | <epsy> i'm gonna take a shower brb | * MrBougo follows epsy *" (added by MrBougo at 01:38 PM, August 12, 2007)
01:16 <Vanhayes> Quote get not q get
01:16 <nsh22> #quote get 89
01:16 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #89: "<ct|kyle>: smoothice: you can with zones v3" (added by epsy at 12:19 AM, February 15, 2009)
01:16 <nsh22> #quote get 88
01:16 <zurd> ]q
01:16 <ljrbot> zurd: Error: "q" is not a valid command.
01:16 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #88: "Flex: you start your grind at the zone, by the time you get to the split it's weak, not to mention the guy is burning the same rubber.." (added by madmax at 01:15 AM, January 31, 2009)
01:16 <nsh22> LMAO
01:16 <Vanhayes> #Quote get 91
01:16 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Error: There is no Quote with id #91 in my database for #armagetron.
01:17 <nsh22> #quote get 87
01:17 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #87: "<BabyBug> the thought of rabbit teeth near my clit is in no way sexy" (added by Lucifer_arma at 04:58 AM, January 18, 2009)
01:17 <Vanhayes> only 90
01:17 <nsh22> lmao babybug
01:17 <sinewav> O_0
01:17 <Vanhayes> kinky
01:17 <nsh22> no, she doesnt thoink its sexy
01:17 <nsh22> #quote get 86
01:17 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #86: "<luke-jr> I'm still grasping at corks to plug the holes" (added by GodTodd at 07:12 AM, January 07, 2009)
01:17 <nsh22> #quote get 85
01:17 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #85: "i spelled sumthing wrong -nsh22" (added by Lucifer_arma at 01:06 AM, January 07, 2009)
01:17 <nsh22> MOI!
01:18 <nsh22> #quote get 84
01:18 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #84: "<cusco> #quote search *cusco*  <armabot> cusco: No matching quotes were found." (added by Lucifer_arma at 11:54 PM, December 19, 2008)
01:18 <Vanhayes> theres one in there where luke jr says pedophile is good
01:18 <nsh22> wewt i got the first quote of 2009
01:18 <nsh22> yeah ive seen it, many times
01:18 <Vanhayes> funny one
01:18 <nsh22> #quote get 83
01:18 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #83: "<Lizmatic> wtfzomg ady-lucifer and lucifer aren't the same guys?! !!!?!"" (added by Lucifer_arma at 10:57 PM, December 16, 2008)
01:18 <smoothice> #quote add Vanhayes: theres one in there where luke jr says pedophile is good
01:18 <@armabot> smoothice: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
01:18 <nsh22> i remember that
01:18 <nsh22> FAIL SMOOTH!
01:19 <nsh22> #quote get 82
01:19 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #82: "<TaZ> Ady-Lucifer: Nah, you're nicer than lucifer though" (added by K-Yo at 04:46 PM, December 13, 2008)
01:19 <nsh22> #quote get 81
01:19 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #81: "GodTodd: that lightning is just God aiming for luke-jr and missing" (added by ct|kyle at 07:50 AM, August 05, 2008)
01:19 <nsh22> #quote get 80
01:19 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #80: "<luke-jr> Intel GPU pwns <luke-jr> CPU sucks" (added by epsy at 11:35 PM, August 04, 2008)
01:19 <zurd> SPAM!
01:19 <zurd> #help SPAM
01:19 <nsh22> MAPS!
01:19 <@armabot> zurd: (spam <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "$randomNick $*".
01:19 <PinkTomato> please just use quote search :)
01:19 <nsh22> ?
01:19 <nsh22> #spam
01:19 <zurd> #spam
01:19 <PinkTomato> #quote search nsh22
01:19 <@armabot> PinkTomato: 1 found: #85: "i spelled sumthing wrong -nsh22"
01:20 <nsh22> lol im just ;looking ythrough them all
01:20 <smoothice> #quote search smoothice
01:20 <nsh22> and killing armabot ath the same ti8me
01:20 <@armabot> smoothice: 1 found: #89: "<ct|kyle>: smoothice: you can with zones v3"
01:20 <nsh22> #quote search luke-jr
01:20 <@armabot> nsh22: 16 found: #20: "ok luci, you'd know better on this one -- luke-jr", #21: "<Luke-Jr_work__> btw, pedophile is good", #23: "<spidey> you wanna fuck Luke-Jr ?", #26: "<Lucifer_arma> I want fundamentalism just so I...", #45: "better an idiot that can admit it than a luke-...", #59: "-Kick- You have been kicked from channel...", #60: "<luke-jr> fanatics are good", #63: "GodTodd: definition of (2 more messages)
01:20 <PinkTomato> lulz
01:20 <nsh22> #mor
01:20 <nsh22> #more
01:20 <@armabot> nsh22: great : agrees with...", #64: "[14:14] <luke-jr> and needless to say, don't...", #68: "[12:54] <luke-jr> …. ok, you win", #69: "gentoo ebuild is as broken as luke-jr himself...", #70: "(20:09:38) luke-jr: StickyNoob: what does that...", #73: "<Lucifer> if you don't want to nitpick, don't...", #80: "<luke-jr> Intel GPU pwns <luke-jr> CPU sucks", #81: "GodTodd: that lightning is just God (1 more message)
01:20 <Vanhayes> #quote get hayes
01:21 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Error: 'hayes' is not a valid id.
01:21 <nsh22> #more
01:21 <@armabot> nsh22: aiming for...", and #86: "<luke-jr> I'm still grasping at corks to plug..."
01:21 <Vanhayes> #quote search hayes
01:21 <@armabot> Vanhayes: 2 found: #17: "And I hate dying nearly as much as I hate..." and #38: "<GodTodd> hayes jerks off turkeys?"
01:21 <Vanhayes> #quote search vanhayes
01:21 <@armabot> Vanhayes: 1 found: #17: "And I hate dying nearly as much as I hate..."
01:22 <Vanhayes> #whoami
01:22 <nsh22> #quote search fail
01:22 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Vanhayes
01:22 <@armabot> nsh22: No matching quotes were found.
01:22 <nsh22> #quote search armabot
01:22 <@armabot> nsh22: 11 found: #12: "'ebuild blah portage rocks emerge hotplug...", #30: "Fonkay: Are you afraid of sex? -armabot", #31: "<Fonkay> #eliza you are stupid <armabot>...", #4: "left vertical bar is brakes, right one is an...", #5: "first the spoon, then the ladle, then the bowl,...", #62: "<tronner> armabot: *click* <armabot> tronner:...", #65: "<Ady666> armabot, 1+2? [...] <Ady666> its thinking", (1 more message)
01:22 <zurd> WTF where is luke-jr
01:22 <nsh22> I DONT KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
01:22 <nsh22> LOL
01:23 <nsh22> im very bored
01:23 <Vanhayes> luke-jr has quit (Remote closed the connection)
01:23 <nsh22> we know...
01:23 <zurd> i know, but when does he want to come back...
01:23 <nsh22> ]alias add jimp "echo just jizzed in his pants"
01:23 <ljrbot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
01:23 <nsh22> ]jimp
01:23 <ljrbot> just jizzed in his pants
01:23 <Vanhayes> he is spying on you with ljrbot
01:23 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-cmake] r903 Fixed some little glitches.... || [trunk-cmake] r902 Remove dependency to "inexistent" and rewrite an if() line f...
01:23 <nsh22> ]alias add jimp "echo $1 just jizzed in his pants"
01:23 <ljrbot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
01:23 <nsh22> ]jimp
01:24 <ljrbot> nsh22: (jimp <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "echo $1 just jizzed in his pants".
01:24 <nsh22> ]alias add jimp "echo $who just jizzed in his pants"
01:24 <ljrbot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
01:24 <nsh22> ]jimp
01:24 <ljrbot> nsh22 just jizzed in his pants
01:24 <nsh22> :P
01:24 <nsh22> @echo ]jimp
01:24 <teabot> nsh22: Error: Spurious "]".  You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands.
01:24 <zurd> [jimp ljrbot
01:24 <Vanhayes> #help roulette
01:24 <@armabot> Vanhayes: (roulette [spin]) -- Fires the revolver. If the bullet was in the chamber, you're dead. Tell me to spin the chambers and I will.
01:24 <nsh22> #echo ]jimp
01:24 <@armabot> nsh22: Error: Spurious "]".  You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands.
01:24 -!- Concord [n=Concord@pool-72-93-80-152.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron
01:24 <Vanhayes> #roulette
01:24 <@armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
01:24 <nsh22> ]jimp concord
01:24 <ljrbot> nsh22 just jizzed in his pants
01:24 <Vanhayes> #roulette
01:24 <nsh22> ...
01:24 <@armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
01:24 <zurd> ]jimp ljrbot
01:24 <ljrbot> zurd just jizzed in his pants
01:25 <Vanhayes> #roulette
01:25 <@armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
01:25 <zurd> >.<
01:25 <smoothice> #roulette spin
01:25 <@armabot> *SPIN* Are you feeling lucky?
01:25 <smoothice> #roulette
01:25 <@armabot> smoothice: *click*
01:25 <Vanhayes> #roulette
01:25 <@armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
01:25 <Vanhayes> next
01:25 <nsh22> #eightball is zurd dumb?
01:25 <@armabot> nsh22: I doubt it very much.
01:25 <Vanhayes> is armabot opped?
01:25 <nsh22> ....
01:25 <zurd> #armagetron.tourneys
01:25 <Vanhayes> #roulette
01:25 -!- Vanhayes [i=Vanhayes@CPE001111c2dce8-CM001a66837916.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #armagetron [requested by armabot: "BANG!"]
01:26  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
01:26 <smoothice> #eightball is nsh22 dumb?
01:26 -!- Vanhayes [i=Vanhayes@CPE001111c2dce8-CM001a66837916.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #armagetron
01:26 <@armabot> smoothice: _I_ don't know.
01:26 <Vanhayes> i guess she is
01:26 <smoothice> #eightball is nsh22 dumb?
01:26 <@armabot> smoothice: The answer is def-- oooh! shiny thing!
01:26 <smoothice> l...
01:26 <nsh22> #eightball is smooth dumb?
01:26 <smoothice> danitl ol
01:26 <@armabot> nsh22: Naturally.
01:26 <smoothice> ...
01:26 <nsh22> HA!
01:26 <nsh22> #eightball is smooticeh dumb?
01:26 <Vanhayes> try roulette
01:26 <@armabot> nsh22: One would be wise to think so.
01:26 <nsh22> #eightball is smooticeh dumb?
01:26 <@armabot> nsh22: Of course.
01:26 <nsh22> hahhahahahahah
01:26 <nsh22> #eightball is smooticeh dumb?
01:26 <@armabot> nsh22: One would be wise to think so.
01:26 <zurd> #eightball do my co-leaders fail?
01:26 <@armabot> zurd: I doubt it very much.
01:26 <nsh22> #eightball is smootice dumb?
01:26 <@armabot> nsh22: You know the answer better than I.
01:27 <zurd> DAMNIT!
01:27 <nsh22> #eightball is smootice dumb?
01:27 <@armabot> nsh22: No clue.
01:27 <nsh22> #eightball is smootice dumb?
01:27 <@armabot> nsh22: The answer is def-- oooh! shiny thing!
01:27 <zurd> DAMNIT!
01:27 <zurd> #eightball do my co-leaders fail?
01:27 <@armabot> zurd: I doubt it very much.
01:27 <nsh22> #eightball is neal dumb?
01:27 <zurd> #eightball do my co-leaders fail?
01:27 <@armabot> nsh22: No chance.
01:27 <@armabot> zurd: The outlook is poor.
01:27 <zurd> #eightball do my co-leaders fail?
01:27 <@armabot> zurd: You're kidding, right?
01:27 <zurd> #eightball do my co-leaders fail?
01:27 <@armabot> zurd: Unlikely.
01:27 <zurd> #eightball do my co-leaders fail?
01:27 <@armabot> zurd: Unlikely.
01:27 <Vanhayes> zurd accept it they dont fail
01:27 <zurd> >.<
01:27 <nsh22> #eightball is xurds coleader paying for ha;l  vps server :P?
01:27 <@armabot> nsh22: One would be wise to think so.
01:27 <nsh22> zurd: :P armabot like me
01:28 <Vanhayes> #roulette
01:28 <@armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
01:28 <nsh22> #r
01:28 <nsh22> ]r
01:28 <ljrbot> nsh22: *click*
01:28 <nsh22> ]r
01:28 <zurd> #eightball will neal pay for the rest of the VPS?
01:28 <ljrbot> nsh22: *click*
01:28 <@armabot> zurd: No clue.
01:28 <zurd> >.<
01:28 <Vanhayes> someone play rouleete with me and armabot
01:28 <zurd> #eightball will neal pay for the rest of the VPS?
01:28 <@armabot> zurd: Come again?
01:28 <zurd> #eightball will neal pay for the rest of the VPS?
01:28 <@armabot> zurd: You know the answer better than I.
01:28 <nsh22> :P
01:28 <Vanhayes> #roulette
01:28 <zurd> this isnt fair
01:28 <@armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
01:28 <zurd> #roulette
01:28 <nsh22> #eightball will neal kick zurd if he doesnt pay his amount?
01:28 <@armabot> zurd: *click*
01:28 <@armabot> nsh22: It is possible.
01:28 <Vanhayes> #roulette
01:28 <@armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
01:29 <zurd> #roulette
01:29 -!- zurd [i=629675b5@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9a1c89646a35d4f8] has left #armagetron [requested by armabot: "BANG!"]
01:29  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
01:29 <Vanhayes> ha
01:29 <smoothice> #eightball Does nsh22 drink his own urine?
01:29 <@armabot> smoothice: You're kidding, right?
01:29 -!- zurd [i=629675b5@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9a1c89646a35d4f8] has joined #armagetron
01:29 <nsh22> #eightball will neal kick zurd hard if he doesnt pay his amount?
01:29 <@armabot> nsh22: The answer is def-- oooh! shiny thing!
01:29 <zurd> nuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
01:29 <nsh22> #eightball will neal kick zurd hard if he doesnt pay his amount?
01:29 <Vanhayes> zurd: Bang
01:29 <@armabot> nsh22: Come again?
01:29 <nsh22> #eightball will neal kick zurd hard if he doesnt pay his amount?
01:29 <@armabot> nsh22: _I_ don't know.
01:29 <nsh22> #eightball will nealpay his half?
01:29 <@armabot> nsh22: The outlook is poor.
01:29 <nsh22> #eightball will nealpay his half?
01:29 <@armabot> nsh22: About as likely as pigs flying.
01:29 <nsh22> s:P lol
01:29 <zurd> #rouleete
01:29 <nsh22> #eightball will neal pay his half?
01:29 <@armabot> nsh22: The outlook is hazy, please ask again later.
01:29 <nsh22> #eightball will neal pay his half?
01:29 <@armabot> nsh22: No clue.
01:29 <nsh22> #eightball will neal pay his half?
01:29 <@armabot> nsh22: No clue.
01:29 <nsh22> #eightball will neal pay his half?
01:29 <@armabot> nsh22: Come again?
01:29 <nsh22> #eightball will neal pay his half?
01:29 <@armabot> nsh22: What are you asking me for?
01:29 <nsh22> #eightball will neal pay his half?
01:29 <Vanhayes> #roulete
01:29 <@armabot> nsh22: What are you asking me for?
01:30 <@armabot> Vanhayes is trying to cheat!
01:30 <nsh22> #eightball will neal pay his half?
01:30 <smoothice> #eightball will neal pay his half?
01:30 <@armabot> nsh22: Maybe...
01:30 <@armabot> smoothice: What are you asking me for?
01:30 <zurd> #roulete
01:30 <smoothice> lol
01:30 <nsh22> ]r
01:30 <ljrbot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
01:30  * ljrbot reloads and spins the chambers.
01:30 <@armabot> zurd is trying to cheat!
01:30 <nsh22> :P
01:30 <zurd> #roulete
01:30 <Vanhayes> cheater
01:30 <@armabot> zurd is trying to cheat!
01:30 <zurd> what?!
01:30 <nsh22> #eightball is this thing reliable?
01:30 <Vanhayes> one l not two=cheating
01:30 <@armabot> nsh22: The outlook is hazy, please ask again later.
01:30 <nsh22> #eightball is this thing reliable?
01:30 <@armabot> nsh22: The answer is def-- oooh! shiny thing!
01:30 <nsh22> #eightball is this thing reliable?
01:30 <@armabot> nsh22: What are you asking me for?
01:30 <nsh22> #eightball is this thing reliable?
01:30 <@armabot> nsh22: You know the answer better than I.
01:30 <nsh22> #eightball is this thing reliable?
01:30 <@armabot> nsh22: No clue.
01:30 <nsh22> #eightball is this thing reliable?
01:30 <@armabot> nsh22: The answer is def-- oooh! shiny thing!
01:30 <zurd> #roulete
01:30 <@armabot> zurd is trying to cheat!
01:31 <smoothice> #eightball does neal suck?
01:31 <nsh22> #echo #r
01:31 <zurd> say it then >.<
01:31 <nsh22> #echo #roulette
01:31 <@armabot> smoothice: It is so.
01:31 <@armabot> #r
01:31 <smoothice> hah
01:31 <smoothice> neal sucks
01:31 <smoothice> :P
01:31 <@armabot> #roulette
01:31 <nsh22> #echo #roulette
01:31 <@armabot> #roulette
01:31 <Vanhayes> #roulette
01:31 -!- Vanhayes [i=Vanhayes@CPE001111c2dce8-CM001a66837916.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #armagetron [requested by armabot: "BANG!"]
01:31  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
01:31 <nsh22> #echo #roulette
01:31 <zurd> #roulete
01:31 <@armabot> #roulette
01:31 <@armabot> zurd is trying to cheat!
01:31 -!- Vanhayes [i=Vanhayes@CPE001111c2dce8-CM001a66837916.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #armagetron
01:31 <Vanhayes> bang
01:31 <zurd> IM NOT CHEATING!
01:31 <smoothice> #eightball Is zurd smart??
01:31 <nsh22> ITS TWO t's !!!!!!!!!!
01:31 <@armabot> smoothice: Yes!
01:31 <Vanhayes> #roulotte
01:31 <smoothice> awww
01:31 <@armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
01:31 <zurd> wooooooooooooo
01:31 <zurd> #roulete
01:31 <@armabot> zurd is trying to cheat!
01:32 <zurd> WTF!
01:32 <nsh22> #eightball is smooth dumb?
01:32 <@armabot> nsh22: Of course.
01:32 <smoothice> lol
01:32 <nsh22> :P
01:32 <zurd> HAHAHA!
01:32  * nsh22 loves armabot
01:32 <zurd> #eightball does neal love you?
01:32 <smoothice> #eightball Is zurd dumb???
01:32 <@armabot> zurd: About as likely as pigs flying.
01:32 <@armabot> smoothice: The outlook is good.
01:32 <Vanhayes> zurd: roulette has two ts
01:32 <smoothice> HAHAHAHA
01:32 <smoothice> I cracked eightball
01:32 <smoothice> I know how to make it answer yes
01:32 <zurd> #roulete
01:32 <smoothice> to ANY QUESTION!
01:32 <@armabot> zurd is trying to cheat!
01:32 <nsh22> #eightball is eightball correct?
01:32 <@armabot> nsh22: Naturally.
01:32 <nsh22> #eightball is eightball correct?
01:32 <@armabot> nsh22: Of course.
01:33 <nsh22> #eightball is eightball correct?
01:33 <@armabot> nsh22: Obviously.
01:33 <zurd> #eightball does neal love armabot?
01:33 <@armabot> zurd: No clue.
01:33 <nsh22> ...
01:33 <zurd> #eightball does neal love armabot?
01:33 <@armabot> zurd: No clue.
01:33 <zurd> #eightball does neal love armabot?
01:33 <@armabot> zurd: Come again?
01:33 <zurd> xD
01:33 <zurd> #eightball does neal love Zurd?
01:33 <nsh22> #eightball does zurd love himself?
01:33 <@armabot> zurd: What are you asking me for?
01:33 <@armabot> nsh22: Come again?
01:33 <nsh22> #eightball does zurd love himself?
01:33 <@armabot> nsh22: The outlook is hazy, please ask again later.
01:33 <smoothice> #eightball Is zurd a butthole???
01:33 <zurd> #eightball does neal love Zurd?
01:33 <@armabot> smoothice: Obviously.
01:33 <smoothice> HAHAHAHAH
01:33 <@armabot> zurd: What are you asking me for?
01:33 <zurd> NUUUUUUUUUUUU
01:33 <smoothice> Is zurd a butthole???
01:33 <smoothice> YES@!
01:33 <smoothice> #eightball Is zurd a butthole???
01:33 <@armabot> smoothice: The answer is certainly yes.
01:33 <nsh22> #eightball is smooth an open butthole?
01:33 <smoothice> nope
01:33 <@armabot> nsh22: Of course.
01:33 <smoothice> ...
01:33 <nsh22> :P
01:34 <nsh22> owned
01:34 <zurd> #eightball does smoothice play with himself while coding armagetron??
01:34 <@armabot> zurd: About as likely as pigs flying.
01:34 <zurd> #eightball does smoothice play with himself while coding armagetron??
01:34 <@armabot> zurd: NO!
01:34 <zurd> #eightball does smoothice play with himself while coding armagetron??
01:34 <@armabot> zurd: You're kidding, right?
01:34 <zurd> #eightball does smoothice play with himself??
01:34 <nsh22> #eightball does zurd play with himself when playinb g tron?
01:34 <@armabot> zurd: About as likely as pigs flying.
01:34 <@armabot> nsh22: The answer is certainly yes.
01:34 <Vanhayes> #flirt zurd
01:34 <nsh22> HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
01:34 <zurd> >.>
01:34 <zurd> #eightball does smoothice play with himself??
01:34 <@armabot> zurd: No.
01:34 <nsh22> liar
01:34 <zurd> #eightball does Zurd play with himself??
01:34 <nsh22> :P
01:34 <@armabot> zurd: The answer is def-- oooh! shiny thing!
01:34 <zurd> #eightball does Zurd play with himself??
01:35 <smoothice> #eightball Is nsh22 a really bad tron player???????????????
01:35 <@armabot> zurd: No clue.
01:35 <@armabot> smoothice: Naturally.
01:35 <smoothice> jaja
01:35 <nsh22> :P
01:35 <smoothice> HAHAH!
01:35 <smoothice> you suck at tron!
01:35 <Vanhayes> #vanhayes
01:35 <@armabot> eh? eh? eh? eh? eh? eh? EH?!?!?!!!!!!1111ONEONE
01:35 <smoothice> knew it
01:35 <zurd> #eightball does neal play with himself??
01:35 <@armabot> zurd: _I_ don't know.
01:35 <nsh22> #eightball Does smoothice fail at life AND tron?
01:35 <@armabot> nsh22: In your dreams.
01:35 <nsh22> #eightball Does smoothice fail at life AND tron?
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01:35 <@armabot> nsh22: NO.
01:35 <smoothice> :D
01:35 <nsh22> #eightball Does smoothice fail at life?
01:35 <@armabot> nsh22: NO.
01:35 <zurd> #eightball does neal play with himself??
01:35 <nsh22> #eightball Does smoothice fail at life ?
01:35 <@armabot> zurd: No clue.
01:35 <zurd> #eightball does neal play with himself?
01:35 <@armabot> nsh22: You know the answer better than I.
01:35 <@armabot> zurd: No chance.
01:35 <nsh22> ew
01:35 <smoothice> #eightball Does nsh22 fail at life like everyone thinks????
01:35 <zurd> #eightball does zurd love his co-leaders?
01:35 <@armabot> smoothice: It shall be.
01:35 <@armabot> zurd: It shall be.
01:35 <smoothice> HAHAHAHAHAH
01:35 <zurd> #eightball does zurd love his co-leaders?
01:35 <@armabot> zurd: It is so.
01:35 <zurd> #eightball does zurd love his co-leaders?
01:35 <nsh22> :P
01:35 <@armabot> zurd: It is possible.
01:36 <zurd> #eightball does zurd love his co-leaders?
01:36 <@armabot> zurd: One would be wise to think so.
01:36 <zurd> #eightball does zurd love his co-leaders?
01:36 <@armabot> zurd: It shall be.
01:36 <zurd> #eightball does zurd love his co-leaders?
01:36 <@armabot> zurd: The answer is certainly yes.
01:36 <zurd> YOUR WRONG ARMABOT!!
01:36 <smoothice> #eightball Does zurd suck??????????????????????????????????
01:36 <@armabot> smoothice: One would be wise to think so.
01:36 <smoothice> haha
01:36 <Vanhayes> #t from english to french You all are spamming with armabot
01:36 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Error: "'from'" is not a valid language.  Valid languages include Chinese_simple, Chinese_traditional, Dutch, English, French, German, Greek, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Portuguese, Russian, and Spanish
01:36 <zurd> :C
01:36 <nsh22> #eightball will zurds co-leaders leave him like the others?
01:36 <@armabot> nsh22: Of course.
01:36 <Vanhayes> #t english to french You all are spamming with armabot
01:36 <smoothice> #t en fr You all suck
01:36 <nsh22> goddammit
01:36 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Error: Babelfish has foiled our plans by changing its webpage format.
01:36 <@armabot> smoothice: Error: Babelfish has foiled our plans by changing its webpage format.
01:36 <nsh22> goddammit
01:36 <nsh22> goddammit
01:36 <nsh22> #eightball will zurds co-leaders leave him like the others?
01:36 <@armabot> nsh22: The outlook is good.
01:36 <smoothice> lol
01:36 <zurd> :(
01:36 <Vanhayes> boo
01:36 <nsh22> #eightball will zurds co-leaders leave him like the others?
01:36 <zurd> :(
01:36 <@armabot> nsh22: Naturally.
01:36 <zurd> :(
01:36 <zurd> :(
01:36 <zurd> :(
01:36 <zurd> :(
01:36 <zurd> :(
01:36 <nsh22> #eightball will zurds co-leaders leave him like the others?
01:36 <zurd> :(
01:36 <zurd> :(
01:36 <zurd> :(
01:36 <@armabot> nsh22: Of course.
01:36 <zurd> :(
01:36 <zurd> :(
01:37 <zurd> stop spaming!
01:37 <nsh22> :C
01:37 <nsh22> :C
01:37 <nsh22> :C
01:37 <nsh22> :C
01:37 <nsh22> :C
01:37 <nsh22> :C
01:37 <smoothice> BabyBug: please #kick nsh22
01:37 <smoothice> You would be wise to do so.
01:37 <smoothice> Obviously.
01:37 <Vanhayes> #/me loves Vanhayes
01:37  * armabot loves Vanhayes
01:37 <nsh22> smoothice: .....
01:37 <Vanhayes> ya you do
01:37 <smoothice> #do loves nsh22 and wants to marry him and have a CHILD!
01:37 <@armabot> Another day...
01:37 <BabyBug> zurd and nsh22 you need to stop spamming
01:37 <zurd> #flirt vanhayes
01:38 <nsh22> BabyBug: OK!
01:38  * zurd is struck with silence
01:38 <nsh22> finnaly :P
01:38 <z-man> GOOD NIGHT ALL SPAM
01:38 <nsh22> GOOD NIGHT!
01:38 <zurd> ignight big Z
01:39 <smoothice> #alias add goodnight $1
01:39 <@armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
01:39 <smoothice> #goodnight nsh22
01:39 <nsh22> ...
01:39 <smoothice> haha
01:39 <smoothice> loophole!
01:39 <nsh22> fail
01:39 <smoothice> ownd
01:39 <smoothice> #say hi
01:39 <@armabot> hi
01:39 <smoothice> awwww
01:39 <Vanhayes> #praise smoothice
01:39  * armabot gives words of praise for smoothice
01:39 <smoothice> #dns nightwalkers.info
01:39 <@armabot> Host not found.
01:40 <Vanhayes> #praise nsh22
01:40  * armabot gives nsh22 a cookie
01:40 <nsh22> #alias add goodnight "echo Goodnight $1"
01:40 <@armabot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
01:40 <Vanhayes> #night
01:40 <@armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
01:40 <nsh22> #goodnight smoothice
01:40 <@armabot> Goodnight smoothice
01:40 <Vanhayes> alkready there
01:40 <nsh22> :P
01:40 <nsh22> i pwn aliases :P
01:40 <smoothice> you phail at Phailing to Phail!
01:40 <smoothice> llol
01:41  * zurd commends BabyBug for the future ban of nsh22
01:41 <Vanhayes> #cyborg
01:41 <@armabot> Vanhayes: V.A.N.H.A.Y.E.S.: Versatile Artificial Neohuman Hardwired for Accurate Yelling and Efficient Sabotage
01:41 <smoothice> #cyborg
01:41 <nsh22> #alias add phlail "echo smoothice"
01:41 <@armabot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
01:41 <@armabot> smoothice: S.M.O.O.T.H.I.C.E.: Synthetic Mechanical Organism Optimized for Troubleshooting, Hazardous Infiltration and Ceaseless Exploration
01:41 <smoothice> lol
01:41 <nsh22> #phliai;
01:41 <nsh22> #phliail
01:41 <nsh22> #phlail
01:41 <@armabot> smoothice
01:41 <Vanhayes> my yeling is accurate
01:41 <nsh22> :P
01:41 <zurd> #cyborg
01:41 <Vanhayes> #cyborg nsh22
01:41 <@armabot> zurd: Z.U.R.D.: Zealous Utility and Repair Device
01:41 <@armabot> Vanhayes: N.S.H.: Networked Synthetic Humanoid
01:41 <nsh22> ok im done, i g2g
01:41 <nsh22> ill be around
01:42 <zurd> suits me well
01:42 <zurd> night neal
01:42  * nsh22 is away: IM WATCHING YOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
01:42 <nsh22> :P\
01:42 <smoothice> yous?
01:42 <smoothice> PHAIL!
01:42 <smoothice> haha
01:42 <smoothice> ownd
01:42 <zurd> to nightwalkers DF!
01:42 <smoothice> k
01:42 <nsh22> cant
01:42 <nsh22> ...
01:42 <zurd> sucks for you then xD
01:42 <smoothice> #si -v ~Night Walker's Central~DF~
01:42 <smoothice> yay
01:42 <@armabot> smoothice: ~Night Walker's Central~DF~ (66.71.249.140:4536) running 0.2.8_alpha20090224 unix dedicated, url: Nightwalkers.info, Description: “Have fun, no cussing.“, Players (0/10):
01:42 <smoothice> 0/10?
01:42 <smoothice> :(
01:43 <zurd> :(
01:43 <zurd> people will show up in a matter of seconds
01:43 <smoothice> Nullification
01:50 <zurd> come on smooth >.<
01:50 <nsh22> #si ~night
01:50 <@armabot> nsh22: ~Night Walker's Central~DF~: Players (4/10): +|Hammer, +|Zurd~NW (ZURD101@forums), Mute~NW, Smoothisafail (nsh22@forums)
01:50 <nsh22> :P
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01:58 <nsh22> SMOOTH GET ON< WE ARE MESSING WITH WRECKS HEAD
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02:27 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty] r892 CYCLE_KILL_INVULNERABLE function. When disabled, player is i...
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02:42 <nsh22> #m luke-jr in regards to the vps server, if you did get it, cold you send the info for zurd and mines server to my email adress, or if you would like to get paid first i can pay you on monday (im going away tomorrow and wont be back until then).
02:42 <@armabot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
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03:32 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r888 Flags now move and work proporly
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03:34 <smoothice> hi luke-jr, nsh22 sent you a later tell
03:35 <luke-jr> prove it
03:35 <smoothice> ...
03:35 <luke-jr> XD
03:35 <smoothice> h22: #m luke-jr in regards to the vps server, if you did get it, cold you send the info for zurd and mines server to my email adress, or if you would like to get paid first i can pay you on monday (im going away tomorrow and wont be back until then).
03:35 <smoothice> lol
03:36 <luke-jr> well, I don't have the info to setup anything, so I guess it waits till Monday
03:36 <luke-jr> :/
03:36 <smoothice> :(
03:36 <smoothice> that' why I like fsckVPS
03:36 <smoothice> Instant setup VPS
03:36 <smoothice> in Dallas or Atlanta
03:36 <smoothice> from vaserv
03:36 <smoothice> hear that people?
03:36 <smoothice> FSCKVPS!
03:37 <smoothice> Instant Setup VPS!
03:38 <luke-jr> smoothice: not if you don't give them the info
03:43 <smoothice> you cannot sign up
03:43 <smoothice> if you don't give the the info
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04:06 <luke-jr> smoothice: exactly my point
04:06 <luke-jr> smoothice: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+spec/sty
04:07 <luke-jr> smoothice: each of the 19 parts on that list should be their own branch
04:08 <luke-jr> hope the roadmap helps ☺
04:08 <luke-jr> feel free to edit the whiteboard
04:09 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: bouncing shots should be a generic bouncing zones
04:10 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: right you are
04:12 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: how can I get a good measure for the speed of the player to apply to speed of the zone
04:13 <luke-jr> uh?
04:14 <ct|kyle> owner_->Direction().x * owner_->Speed()  makes it move way too fast
04:16 <luke-jr> does it? :x
04:16 <luke-jr> that's what I was about to suggest XD
04:17 <ct|kyle> ya it moves away from the player
04:17 <luke-jr> :/
04:27 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: what is the difference between HELP_MESSAGE (sty) and HELP_INTRODUCTORY_BLURB (trunk)?
04:27 <sinewav> tr fort
04:27 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: help_message in sty is no longer needed
04:27 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: that doesn't answer my question :/
04:28 <ct|kyle> the pigs was a general help message on /help and /help only. the one in tron has /help <topics>
04:28 <luke-jr> I'm not asking about the topics, just that one config parameter
04:29 <ct|kyle> .cfg2 HELP_INTRODUCTORY_BLU
04:29 <ct|kyle> #cfg2 HELP_INTRODUCTORY_BLU
04:29 <@armabot> ct|kyle: HELP_INTRODUCTORY_BLURB: Message that is displayed before the list of help topics if someone uses /help without arguments
04:29 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: they are the same
04:30 <luke-jr> then why are they named different? -.-
04:31 <ct|kyle> I was not in charge of naming
04:31 <ct|kyle> :P
04:31 <ct|kyle> pig created the HELP_MESSAGE  and I think z-man created the HELP_INTRODUCTORY_BLURB
04:31 <ct|kyle> HELP_MESSAGE should be obsolete
04:32 <ct|kyle> #cfg2 HELP_MESSAGE
04:32 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Sorry, no matches :S
04:32 <ct|kyle> #cfg2 HELP_
04:32 <@armabot> ct|kyle: ADD_HELP_TOPIC: Add a new help topic to be used with /help. Usage: ADD_HELP_TOPIC || HELP_INTRODUCTORY_BLURB: Message that is displayed before the list of help topics if someone uses /help without arguments || REMOVE_HELP_TOPIC: Remove a help topic.
04:33 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: so I see 2 differences
04:33 <luke-jr> config name and an extra \n
04:34  * luke-jr writes a quick sty-compat branch
04:34 <ct|kyle> there really is no need for the olf HELP_MESSAGE
04:34 <ct|kyle> old*
04:35 <luke-jr> so sty configs work?
04:36 <ct|kyle> also luke-jr how should I handle putting the /drop stuff in ePlayer
04:36 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: ☺
04:36 <luke-jr> I was just thinking of that earleir
04:36 <luke-jr> there is only one good solution
04:36 <luke-jr> a proper trigger interface! :p
04:37 <ct|kyle> can't we just define flag zones being compiled and place something like that around it in ePlayer
04:38 <luke-jr> so uh, consider it todo
04:38 <luke-jr> we could, I suppose
04:38 <luke-jr> but a proper solution will be needed at some point
04:38 <luke-jr> I prefer to do it when needed ☺
04:38 <ct|kyle> almost needed :P
04:39 <ct|kyle> I've got getting the speed correct and getting IsHome() working
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04:40 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: remember, I fully expect flags to take a few rewrites before it's ready for merging
04:40 <luke-jr> so feel free to hack it in for this revision
04:41 <ct|kyle> kind of like how I used magic numbers  shape->setPosX(tFunction(owner_->Position().x, 0.0));
04:43 <ivantis2> hey look its luke-jr
04:43 <ivantis2> hai
04:44 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: shooting will need triggers too
04:45 <ct|kyle> ya shooting will be a bitch
04:45 <luke-jr> /shoot and /+shoot ☺
04:45 <ivantis2> what are you guys talking about?
04:45 <luke-jr> will need client-side support to handle the latter properly
04:45 <ct|kyle> you are not sugesting chatting to shoot
04:45 <luke-jr> ivantis2: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+spec/sty
04:46 <ivantis2> i thought you hated sty
04:46 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: I'm suggesting making the instant chat system into a trigger system ☺
04:46 <ct|kyle> not a bad idea for backporting, but a shot key for current would be nice
04:46 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: so an instachat of /+shoot will send "/+shoot" when you press the key and "/-shoot" when you release it
04:46 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: "/shoot" would be like press+release
04:47 <ct|kyle> ah
04:48 <luke-jr> ivantis2: why would I hate sty?
04:49 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: could you take a look at lines 259 - 324 of zFlag.cpp
04:49 <ivantis2> idk
04:49 <ivantis2> luke-jr, you should sign up on elance.com
04:49 <ivantis2> and get a job
04:50 <luke-jr> ivantis2: get a clue, elance.com would put me in the poor house
04:50 <luke-jr> ivantis2: I charge $45/hr for my work
04:50 <ivantis2> so do a lot of people on elance
04:50  * luke-jr stabs ct|kyle for using tab characters
04:50 <ivantis2> experienced people on there are usually from $40 to $60 an hour
04:51 <ct|kyle> tab characters?
04:51 <luke-jr> ivantis2: I have too much work to take on any more projects
04:51 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: yes
04:51 <ct|kyle> o0
04:51 <ivantis2> why are you here?
04:51 <ct|kyle> they should be spaces
04:51 <ivantis2> i dont like using tab
04:51 <ivantis2> s
04:53 <luke-jr> #kick ivantis2
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04:53 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: yeah, they should be
04:53 <luke-jr> anyhow, are you going to tell me what the problem is?
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04:55 <luke-jr> ivantis2: btw, I don't think elance people want to pay you to go bug people in #Google asking them to do the work for you
04:55 <ct|kyle> for some reason it is counting home flags as not home
04:55 <luke-jr>     if ((shape->getPosition().x == homePosition_X)
04:55 <luke-jr>         && (shape->getPosition().y == homePosition_Y))
04:55 <luke-jr> you can't do that
04:55 <luke-jr> just check if the flag is held or not
04:56 <luke-jr> or maybe a new boolean
04:56 <ct|kyle> flag does not have to be held to be away from home
04:56 <ct|kyle> but ya I could do an atHome=true when GoHome() is called
04:57 <ivantis2> i didnt ask for the work to be done
04:57 <ivantis2> i was asking if anyone was familiar with how it worked
04:57 <ivantis2> but i figured it out on my own
05:00 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: heh Boolean is already there, must not have been merged
05:06 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: heh, I am looking for flags of the same team that the flag the player is holding (otherFlag->Team() == team)
05:07 <luke-jr> …
05:07 <luke-jr> and?
05:07 <ct|kyle> I should be using players team instead of team
05:09 <ct|kyle> btw luke-jr it is smoothice using tabs
05:09 <ivantis> …
05:09 <ivantis> ha i have the …
05:09 <ivantis> :P
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05:09 <ct|kyle> ...
05:11 <ivantis2> ...
05:12 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: I'm updating 0.2.8-sty+ct
05:13 <ct|kyle> what for luke-jr
05:13 <ct|kyle> oh
05:13 <luke-jr> to get a clean diff from 0.2.8-sty to 0.2.8-sty+ct
05:13 <luke-jr> ☺
05:13 <ct|kyle> oh LOL, ya that does need to be done
05:13 <luke-jr> rev 662 of my branch is merge 0.2.8
05:15 <ct|kyle> are there any conflicts?
05:15 <luke-jr> one
05:15 <luke-jr> in english_base
05:16 <ct|kyle> well then I'll merge and push it
05:23 <luke-jr> not done yet, going to merge 0.2.8-sty too
05:25 <ct|kyle> the bouncing stuff we will want to use the ct+sty code
05:25 <luke-jr> which "we"?
05:25 <ct|kyle> of course modified for zones v2
05:25 <ct|kyle> for 0.3 Sty
05:26 <luke-jr> why?
05:28 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=204341#204341
05:28 <luke-jr> oh, just bugfixes?
05:29 <ct|kyle> it is global too I think the one in sty is zone specific
05:29 <luke-jr> I was scared we'd need to make a "bounce style" option XD
05:29 <luke-jr> remember, this is a rewrite ;)
05:31 <ct|kyle> that code is a little more than I can handle :P and definitely more than smoothice can handle
05:31 <luke-jr> maybe I'll give it a shot then
05:34 <ct|kyle> the hard part about bouncing at least off of walls in zones v2 is knowing what direction it should go. because if the center of zone does not Aline with the point of impact in the direction  of the impact than I think the zone spins or something
05:41 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r662 merging with 0.2.8 r1098 || [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty] r893 merge from 0.2.8 || [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r662 merge from 0.2.8 || [armagetronad-sty-help-compat] r893 HELP_MESSAGE alias to HELP_INTRODUCTORY_BLURB for compatibil...
05:45 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: so tabs -> spaces?
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06:25 <zurd> luke-jr: ping
06:25 <ivantis2> ]echo pong
06:26 <ivantis2> oh right its still ignoring me
06:26 <zurd> lol
06:26 <ivantis2> man im tired
06:26 <ivantis2> maybe i should get to bed
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06:44 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r663 merge from 0.2.8-sty (and make conflicted regions more merga... || [armagetronad-v2sty] r889 Scoring now works properly || [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] merge from 0.2.8
06:44 <zurd> #q
06:44 <@armabot> zurd: Quote #35: "ur not a good writer :P - Ady" (added by Lucifer_arma at 11:00 PM, November 13, 2006)
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06:53 <ivantis2> #q
06:53 <@armabot> ivantis2: Quote #76: "<Lucifer> vista doesn't have the kind of boobs that KDE has" (added by ivantis at 05:54 AM, July 31, 2008)
06:53 <ivantis2> oh i remember that one
06:53 <ivantis2> it was right before i went to Wisconsin
06:56 <ivantis2> #quote get #crazy-tronners 2
06:56 <@armabot> ivantis2: Quote #2: "(11:44:13) eddiefantastic: I'd rather stick my cock in a jar of honey, roll it in oats then feed it to a goat" (added by ct|kyle at 05:49 PM, December 12, 2007)
06:57 <ivantis2> ...than use vista
06:59 <luke-jr> ivantis2: you ARE vista
07:00 <ivantis2> you would rather do that than talk to me?
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07:04 <ivantis2> 4
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07:06 <ivantis2> hey look its epsy
07:06 <ivantis2> what time is it in france right now?
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07:18 <ivantis> epsy: do you have a spring break where you live?
07:19 <ivantis> ignored! how rude!
07:19 <ivantis> ok, fine
07:19 <ivantis> dont answer me
07:19  * ivantis pouts
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12:36 <BabyBug> Hey baby <3
12:37 <Lizmatic> hello girl that banned me <3
12:38 <BabyBug> ^^
12:42  * Lizmatic spanks
12:44 <BabyBug> ...
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16:25 <ivantis2> #roulette
16:25 <@armabot> ivantis2: *click*
16:26 <ivantis2> #roulette
16:26 <@armabot> ivantis2: *click*
16:26 <ivantis2> ~echo #roulette
16:26 <The_Master> #roulette
16:26 <@armabot> The_Master: *click*
16:26 <The_Master> armabot: What color are your eyes?
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16:27 <ivantis2> ~echo #roulette
16:27 <The_Master> #roulette
16:27 <@armabot> The_Master: *click*
16:27 <The_Master> armabot: Not many people express themselves that way.
16:29 <ivantis2> ~echo #roulette
16:29 <The_Master> #roulette
16:29 <@armabot> The_Master: *click*
16:29 <The_Master> armabot: Are you really a " armabot"?
16:29 <ivantis2> come on, bang!
16:30 <ivantis2> ~echo #roulette
16:30 <The_Master> #roulette
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16:30  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
16:31 <ivantis2> ownd
16:32 <ivantis2> is ttech gonna be mad at me?
16:32 <ivantis2> Ttech[daedalus], sorry i couldnt help myself
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16:47 <joda_bot> #whoami
16:47 <@armabot> joda_bot: joda_bot
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16:53 <ivantis2> #meow!
16:53 <@armabot> ¡ʍoǝɯ
16:54 <mib_n8inlj> ?
16:54 <mib_n8inlj> #meow!
16:55 <@armabot> ¡ʍoǝɯ#
16:55 <ivantis2> ?
16:55 <ivantis2> #meow!
16:55 <@armabot> ¡ʍoǝɯ#
16:55 <ivantis2> ...
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16:57 <ivantis> #meow!
16:57 <@armabot> ¡ʍoǝɯ#
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18:04 <pruWord> someone here?:P
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20:31 <ivantis> luke-jr: ping
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20:51 <Concord> #si cafe
20:52 <@armabot> Concord: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
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20:59 <ivantis> dudes! guess what!
20:59 <Vanhayes> what?
20:59 <ivantis> im going to visit where luke-jr lives
20:59 <ivantis> omaha nebraska
21:00 <ivantis> its a thing for boyscouts
21:01 <noob13> :D
21:01 <ivantis> im going to some museum
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21:03 <ivantis> okay i need to conserve cell phone battery for this trip
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21:07 <Concord> #si trfort
21:07 <@armabot> Concord: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “trfort” at the moment, sorry.
21:07 <Concord> #si tr
21:07 <@armabot> Concord: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: Players (10/14): ((=>Basket<=)), ct°$afari$Kater, Gardo, Guybrush, LA PANTERA, Player 1, PSYCHOHOLIC, yousux.com, ~|DS|~AshitakA, °°° ³dot °°°
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21:45 <Lackadaisical> Lucifer: who's the dedicated web guy you mentioned on the forums?
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22:08 <epsy> Lackadaisical, do you read alistapart?
22:08 <Lackadaisical> sometimes
22:08 <Lackadaisical> don't do much webstuff lately, so not much these days
22:09 <epsy> yeah
22:10 <epsy> you've been talking about whitespace, did you read it's issue about it?
22:10 <epsy> http://www.alistapart.com/articles/whitespace/
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22:11 <Lackadaisical> ah yeah thats an old one
22:11 <Lackadaisical> but i was just talking about whitespace because kamp mentioned it in his post
22:12 <epsy> I originally thought of something like phpbb.com
22:12 <epsy> er
22:12 <epsy> now that the page loaded, no
22:13 <epsy> well, anyway I revised my thought and considered it wouldn't really be tron at all
22:13 <epsy> so I thought about a "screen" theme
22:14 <epsy> you see, with alternating rows and stuff like that
22:14 <epsy> after all, we have something like that already
22:14 <Lackadaisical> you mean for the forums?
22:14 <epsy> for the whole, why shuld it be different all over
22:14 <epsy> (of course I don't mean forum posts)
22:15 <Lackadaisical> ah ok so what rows are you talking about then?
22:15 <epsy> well, these are on the forums
22:15 <epsy> we'd just have to make it a lot more hawt
22:17 <epsy> but well, I wouldn't use it as background
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22:18 <Lackadaisical> do you have any examples of "screen" themes?
22:18 <epsy> let me check a second
22:18 <Lackadaisical> just want to make sure im thinking of the same thing as you ;)
22:18 <epsy> well, try to get one as well
22:19 <epsy> hal is useless >.>
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22:27 <epsy> hm
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22:35 <ivantis> luke-jr: ping
22:36 <epsy> Lackadaisical, I can hardly find any :(
22:36 <ivantis> epsy: am i once again on your ignore list?
22:36 <Lackadaisical> mmm ok
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22:38 <epsy> Lackadaisical, maybe this: http://78.192.34.55:8080/~epsy/screenshots/shot0009.tga.png (in front of the "3") and here: http://78.192.34.55:8080/~epsy/screenshots/shot0008.tga.png
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22:38 <epsy> that's the only I could find and it's not very descriptive
22:39 <Lackadaisical> those are quakescreenshots?
22:40 <epsy> indeed
22:41 <epsy> is it clear enough?
22:43 <Lackadaisical> well i guess it has a lot more tronlike feel than the sites i linked at least
22:43 <Lackadaisical> a dark website would definatly be the most tronlike, but it doesnt necessarily mean we have to ditch using whitespace
22:43 <epsy> yeah, well it will better stay as a small gimmick
22:44 <Lackadaisical> you just mean the little scores right?
22:44 <epsy> (and nto being thrown everywhere)
22:44 <epsy> hm?
22:45 <epsy> the ones on the ad panel, right? (where the QL logo stands)
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22:45 <compguygene> hi epsy
22:46 <epsy> damn, am I even here?
22:46 <epsy> hi :)
22:46 <compguygene> wanted to say thanks for the settings
22:46 <compguygene> we tested them
22:46 <compguygene> they absolutely rock
22:46 <epsy> heh
22:46 <compguygene> also
22:46 <compguygene> i got a vps in germany
22:46 <epsy> it will need some updates I think
22:47 <compguygene> so between that and the one i have in connecticut
22:47 <compguygene> i can pretty much host this thing
22:47 <Concord> the website looks like it goes with arma version 2.5, just making that blue grid thing black will make a huge difference
22:47 <Concord> (just like the floor is now black)
22:47 <epsy> well, we can't share the adminnig of 8 servers
22:48 <epsy> Concord, it's not really about the color
22:48 <epsy> Concord, a tiny touch of blue will help
22:48 <epsy> Lackadaisical, [23:45] <epsy>: the ones on the ad panel, right? (where the QL logo stands)
22:48 <compguygene> well, concord's latest post on playfortress is the answer to that
22:48 <Concord> http://www.armagetronad.net/screenshots/ss_fort_1.png  V http://www.armagetronad.net/screenshots/screenshot_12.png
22:49 <epsy> ah
22:49 <compguygene> just wanted to keep you updated
22:49 <compguygene> you laid the groundwork for future kewlness, thank you very much!
22:50  * compguygene leaves you to you more important constant work on arma...
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22:51 <epsy> mm
22:51 <epsy> wish I was working
22:51 <epsy> also
22:51 <epsy> compguygene, #armagetron.tourneys
22:51 <compguygene> ahh...didn't know
22:51 <compguygene> ty
22:51 <epsy> one big part of knowing eachother's tourneys is to put them in one place
22:51 <epsy> the chantopic there is for that
22:51 <compguygene> ok
22:51 <compguygene> ty
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22:52 <epsy> so edit it :)
22:52  * compguygene never has checked a channel list
22:52 <Lackadaisical> i see three ql logos
22:52 <epsy> Lackadaisical, the one on the center of the screen
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23:08 <zurd> #
23:08 <zurd> #q
23:08 <@armabot> zurd: Quote #74: "Pathetique: I find it funny how ivantis can write C++ but has no clue how to actually write it." (added by ct|kyle at 09:07 PM, July 28, 2008)
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23:25 <noob13> #tea
23:25 <@armabot> noob13: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
23:28 <luke-jr> ivantis FAIL
23:29 <epsy> luke-jr, he didn't even talk yet did he?
23:30 <luke-jr> epsy: he's been pinging me all day
23:30 <epsy> there's always a solution
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Log from 2009-03-14:
--- Day changed Sat Mar 14 2009
00:03 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50870676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron
00:03 <z-man> any mumble testing going on?
00:03 <luke-jr> nope
00:04 <luke-jr> just some guy in #KCLUG who is trying to use a damaged-in-shipment system instead of returning it
00:05 <z-man> Sounds like fun.
00:06 <luke-jr> his kernel build took 3 hours because of HD issues
00:06 <luke-jr> and he had to reinsert the RAM and something else
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00:26 <joda_bot> z-man: are you stil awake ?
00:26 <z-man> No :)
00:26 <joda_bot> hehe
00:26 <joda_bot> I just send the mumbles people our dev mumbles thread
00:26 <joda_bot> and asked if anyone is interested to give their view on our approach
00:27 <luke-jr> does Mumble communicate thru the game server?
00:27 <epsy> nighty
00:27 <joda_bot> gn8 epsy
00:27 <luke-jr> or what?
00:27 <z-man> luke-jr: no, not yet, of course :)
00:27 <z-man> But the plan would be that we develop a management module (in python, say)
00:27  * luke-jr wonders why we can't just add a VOICE_URI setting and support standard SIP or IAX2
00:27 <z-man> and the game server tells the management module which players are on and in which teams
00:27 <epsy> aw, that means stuff that depends on me?
00:28 <z-man> The management module then talks to murmur and sets it up accordingly.
00:28 <luke-jr> epsy: you're working on Python support too? :o
00:28 <epsy> on allowing it to be easily done
00:28 <z-man> epsy: you mean eEvent?
00:28 <epsy> as part of the modules branch
00:28 <epsy> trunk-eevent-modules
00:29 <luke-jr> epsy: does that by any chance cover generic triggers?
00:29 <epsy> it's not really in a good-looking form yet, sorry
00:29 <epsy> luke-jr, hooks?
00:29 <luke-jr> hooks?
00:29 <epsy> luke-jr, handled with boost::errrrrrrrrrrrrr
00:29 <epsy> boost::signals
00:30 <luke-jr> no, where a client can bind a key(s) to a trigger, say 'jump'
00:30 <epsy> ah
00:30 <luke-jr> and press that to jump
00:30 <epsy> not yet
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00:30 <epsy> and I don't see it as related to modules
00:30 <luke-jr> or bind it to '+jump' to send '+jump' on keydown and '-jump' on keyup
00:30 <epsy> yeah, I know :)
00:30 <luke-jr> well, it's slightly related to the API anyhow
00:30 <luke-jr> since plugins will need to define new triggers
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00:31 <epsy> but it's still something that's worth it's own document, isn't it?
00:32 <epsy> don't let me ramble on this topic yet :)
00:32 <epsy> nighty
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00:34 <smoothice> #cfg2 ladderlog_write_round_score
00:34 <@armabot> smoothice: LADDERLOG_WRITE_ROUND_SCORE: Write to ladderlog: ROUND_SCORE [](Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_ROUND_SCORE_TEAM: Write to ladderlog: ROUND_SCORE_TEAM (Default: 1 )
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00:37 <smoothice> Zurd: any luck?
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00:38 <smoothice> z-man: Do you have chronic Internet issues or something? :P
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00:39 <luke-jr> …
00:39 <z-man> humm, beats me.
00:39 <smoothice> z-man left the chat room. (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer))
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00:39 <smoothice> zmanuel joined the chat room.
00:39 <smoothice> lots of that lol
00:39 <Zurd> smoothice not yet
00:39 <smoothice> zurd: k
00:40 <z-man> I only have one reconnect here.
00:40 <z-man> and my ssh connection to my server was stable.
00:40 <z-man> Must have been my freenode host.
00:41 <smoothice> yeah
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00:41 <smoothice> #dict chronic
00:41 <Zurd> what ssh clients do you guys use??
00:41 <smoothice> heeee
00:41 <@armabot> smoothice: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: wn: chronic adj 1: being long-lasting and recurrent or characterized by long suffering; "chronic indigestion"; "a chronic shortage of funds"; "a chronic invalid" [ant: {acute}] 2: having a habit of long standing; "a chronic smoker" [syn: {confirmed}, {habitual}, {inveterate(a)}]; gcide: Chronic \Chron"ic\, a. [L. chronicus, Gr. ? concerning (4 more messages)
00:42 <PinkTomato> Zurd: the standard one
00:42 <smoothice> PinkTomato: zurd uses windows
00:42 <smoothice> luke-jr: why is the hostname for your VPSes "reserved"?
00:43 <luke-jr> smoothice: wtf?
00:43 <smoothice> 12  reserved (*censored*)  72.748 ms  72.000 ms  72.638 ms
00:43 <smoothice> on traceroute
00:43 <luke-jr> no idea ☺
00:43 <smoothice> ...
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00:43 <luke-jr> smoothice: is it a problem?
00:43 <smoothice> yeah
00:43 <smoothice> it's annoying
00:43 <smoothice> lol
00:43 <luke-jr> and fwiw, that's not a hostname
00:43 <PinkTomato> what's the IP of a luke-jr vps then?
00:43 <luke-jr> it's RDNS
00:44 <smoothice> ok
00:44 <smoothice> umm
00:44 <smoothice> *censored* = Why would I tell you
00:44 <smoothice> IPs are private stuff
00:44 <smoothice> or not
00:44 <smoothice> I don't know
00:44 <luke-jr> 66.216.20.12
00:44 <luke-jr> 65.18.193.127
00:44 <PinkTomato> smoothice: are you going to host it as an armagetronad server?
00:44 <smoothice> PinkTomato: I'm not a luke-jr customer
00:45 <Zurd> no ssh client is working for me luke.
00:45 <smoothice> luke-jr:
00:46 <smoothice> VoiceOver is the remarkable new feature that gives iPod shuffle a voice.* It tells you what song is playing and who's performing it. It can even tell you the names of your playlists.
00:46 <PinkTomato> smoothice: oh right
00:46 <Zurd> >>
00:46 <smoothice> PinkTomato: probably never will be unless he lowers his prices for good
00:46 <smoothice> PinkTomato: how's the DD racing server?
00:46 <luke-jr> Zurd: what SSH client did you try?
00:47 <smoothice> PinkTomato: I think I'll go play there right now :D
00:47 <luke-jr> smoothice: you missed that promo for some reason
00:47 <Zurd> i have tried putty, filezilla, openssh
00:47 <PinkTomato> smoothice: DD racing is not so good
00:47 <luke-jr> I'd like to know wtf Filezilla has to do with SSH
00:47 <luke-jr> Zurd: so what's the problem? I know openssh works..
00:47 <Zurd> it has an ssh option...
00:47 <smoothice> PinkTomato: Why?
00:47 <smoothice> luke-jr: he means SFTP
00:48 <PinkTomato> smoothice: $tronners too kmy traffic :)
00:48 <smoothice> luke-jr: which obviously works over ssh
00:48 <smoothice> PinkTomato: oh haha
00:48 <PinkTomato> and for the last 4 days, it was using 100% CPU
00:48 <smoothice> DD racing?
00:48 <PinkTomato> ye
00:48  * luke-jr just logged in to Zurd's VPS via SSH
00:48 <smoothice> :O
00:48 <Zurd> luke-jr, openssh installed on my computer, then i couldnt locate it anywhere
00:48 <luke-jr> Zurd: so you tried it how exactly? :o
00:48 <PinkTomato> smoothice: fixed now though
00:49 <luke-jr> Zurd: open a command prompt and type
00:49 <luke-jr> ssh root@66.216.20.12
00:49 <Zurd> i say the folder, then in the folder was nothing.
00:49 <smoothice> PinkTomato: did cheapVPS kick your ass?
00:49 <smoothice> PinkTomato: :P
00:50 <luke-jr> smoothice: cheapVPS kicks people?
00:50 <luke-jr> cheapVPS isn't so cheap. ;p
00:50 <smoothice> ...
00:50 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: It was 6 months ago :)
00:50 <smoothice> ...
00:50 <PinkTomato> wait, it's march now
00:50 <smoothice> ...
00:50 <smoothice> wow
00:50 <Zurd> luke-jr, did nothing once command executed
00:50 <PinkTomato> It feels like January.
00:51 <luke-jr> Zurd: what?
00:51 <PinkTomato> smoothice: no notice from them :).
00:51 <joda_bot> luke-jr: he might just have gotten the same prompt as @home ?
00:51 <joda_bot> luke-jr: after being logged in without password request ?
00:52 <smoothice> PinkTomato: lol!
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00:53 <luke-jr> joda_bot: nope, I'm the only one logged in still
00:53 <joda_bot> k
00:54 <Zurd> luke-jr, "The authenticity of host '66.216.20.12 <66.216.20.12>' can't be established. RSA key fingerprint is 27:98:64:53:91:46:54:ec:41:3f:81:24:00:79:ca."
00:54 <Zurd> "do you wish to continue <yes/no>"
00:54 <Zurd> "yes"
00:54 <smoothice> yes
00:54 <joda_bot> yes
00:55 <luke-jr> YES
00:55 <smoothice> YES!!!
00:55 <joda_bot> #echo yes
00:55 <Zurd> "warning permenatly added "ip"
00:55 <Zurd> >.<
00:55 <smoothice> @echo YES!
00:55 <teabot> YES!
00:55 <@armabot> yes
00:55 <luke-jr> ]echo YEEESSSSSSSS
00:55 <ljrbot> YEEESSSSSSSS
00:55 <Zurd> ok....
00:55 <Zurd> o.o
00:55 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: was that you?
00:55 <smoothice> ..
00:55 <luke-jr> Zurd: and the problem is?
00:56 <Zurd> "connection closed by "ip"
00:56 <luke-jr> ……..
00:56 <Zurd> IDK!!!!!!
00:56 <luke-jr> Zurd: that's all?
00:56 <Zurd> WTF
00:56 <smoothice> ?
00:56 <luke-jr> Zurd: install http://tightvnc.com
00:56 <PinkTomato> Those errors annoy me too much.
00:56 <smoothice> YOur VPSes have VNC?
00:57 <PinkTomato> smoothice: other way round
00:57 <luke-jr> smoothice: no, I have VNC to look at wtf he's doing wrong -.-
00:57 <smoothice> that's privacy violation luke
00:57 <luke-jr> uh, no it isn't
00:57 <smoothice> what a creeper! :D
00:57 <luke-jr> it's customer assistance
00:57 <PinkTomato> smoothice: if Zurd OK's it, no problem
00:58 <Zurd> ...wtf is it....
00:58 <smoothice> now zurd has to port forward
00:58 <luke-jr> smoothice: no he doesn't
00:58 <smoothice> Yes he does
00:58 <PinkTomato> no,
00:58 <luke-jr> Zurd: like remote desktop
00:58 <PinkTomato> Zurd: connects to luke-jr port forwarded machine
00:58 <PinkTomato> connection established, all is well.
00:58 <Zurd> yeah, so he can view my comp, i know
00:59 <smoothice> luke-jr: yes he does
00:59 <luke-jr> smoothice: nope
00:59 <PinkTomato> smoothice: read above ^^
00:59 <Zurd> the problem is, he'll always have access
00:59 <PinkTomato> :)
00:59 <luke-jr> Zurd: nope
00:59 <PinkTomato> Zurd: only while VNC is runnin
00:59 <luke-jr> Zurd: you just boot me when you're done
00:59 <Zurd> kk
00:59 <smoothice> since when does VNC utilize dynamic routing?
00:59 <luke-jr> smoothice: stfu and watch
01:00 <Zurd> xD
01:00 <PinkTomato> smoothice: Listening Client
01:00 <luke-jr> Zurd: after you install, right click the system tray icon and select Add New Client
01:00 <luke-jr> Zurd: type in: nat.router.dashjr.org
01:00 <smoothice> PinkTomato: oh yeah
01:00 <smoothice> PinkTomato: right...
01:00 <smoothice> PinkTomato: lol
01:00 <PinkTomato> ;)
01:02 <luke-jr> hey, Zurd's VPS got 13 packets
01:02 <smoothice> cool?
01:02 <luke-jr> dunno, I'm just bored
01:02 <luke-jr> ping it a few times to make it go up
01:03 <smoothice> how about 1mb packet pings
01:03 <smoothice> :P
01:03 <smoothice> don't fret!
01:03 <smoothice> I won't~
01:03 <smoothice> lol
01:03 <Zurd> "failed to connect to server (nat.router.dashjr.org)"
01:03 <luke-jr> smoothice: 1 MB is too big for a packet across the internet
01:03 <luke-jr> Zurd: ………
01:03 <smoothice> luke-jr: oh lol
01:03 <Zurd> O.O
01:04 <luke-jr> Zurd: do you have some kind of evil draconian firewall?
01:04 <Zurd> you guys making a fool outa me??
01:04 <smoothice> luke-jr is :P
01:04 <luke-jr> heck, how are you on IRC? :/
01:04 <smoothice> mibbit
01:04 <luke-jr> is he really? :x
01:04 <smoothice> ..
01:04 <luke-jr> crap
01:04 <luke-jr> that might be it then
01:04 <smoothice> ...
01:04 <Zurd> hang on.
01:04 <smoothice> Zurd: don't let luke-jr get to your mind
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01:04 <luke-jr> Zurd: I think your firewall is blocking it
01:05 <smoothice> I use MAC
01:05 <smoothice> no firewalls needed
01:05 <smoothice> :D
01:05 <luke-jr> MAC != Mac
01:05 <luke-jr> idiot
01:05 <smoothice> no
01:05 <smoothice> I mean't MAC
01:05  * luke-jr ponders writing a working zZone in one night to make a fool of smoothice ;)
01:05 <smoothice> phsycial address
01:05 <smoothice> luke-jr: dammit
01:06  * smoothice ponders spreading word that luke'jr's service is crap
01:06 <luke-jr> smoothice: that'd be slander
01:06 <luke-jr> and illegal :o
01:06 <smoothice> luke-jr: ?
01:06 <smoothice> luke-jr: how is that illegal
01:06 <smoothice> luke-jr: freedom of speech my friend
01:06 <luke-jr> slander is illegal
01:06 <luke-jr> freedom of speech doesn't exist
01:06 <smoothice> first amendment rights -.-
01:06 <luke-jr> welcome to the real world
01:06 <luke-jr> the Consitution and its amendments are just paper
01:06  * Zurd is still waiting for the security center to pop us...
01:06 <smoothice> Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
01:07 <sinewave> Freedom of speech implies you can say things about the gov, not your neighbors.
01:07 <smoothice> ?
01:07 <luke-jr> smoothice: Congress maybe not, that's why they do it in other parts of the govt
01:07 <smoothice> ...
01:07 <luke-jr> and sinewave's point is good too
01:07 <smoothice> this is a stupid conservation
01:07 <luke-jr> smoothice: test it
01:07 <smoothice> no
01:07 <luke-jr> smoothice: go see a movie and yell FIRE in the middle
01:08 <luke-jr> (without a fire ofc)
01:08 <smoothice> that'd be disorderly conduct
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01:08 <luke-jr> freedom of speech ;)
01:08 <sinewave> hi lack
01:08 <smoothice> yes
01:08 <smoothice> but
01:08 <smoothice> choosing to say I don't like your service
01:08 <smoothice> Isn't disorderly conduct
01:08 <luke-jr> smoothice: that's not what you said though
01:08 <smoothice> ?
01:08 <luke-jr> you made an objective statement claiming it was crap
01:08 <luke-jr> which is not true
01:09 <luke-jr> nor have you ever even tried it
01:09 <smoothice> ok
01:09 <smoothice> I disagree with my statement
01:09 <luke-jr> …
01:09 <smoothice> my fault
01:09 <smoothice> I'm stupid
01:09 <luke-jr> way to make a brainfsck
01:09 <smoothice> ?
01:09 <cpayan> Yell "fire" when there's an explosion on screen and you can probably get some people to run
01:09 <luke-jr> #quote add "[19:09:13] <smoothice> I disagree with my statement"
01:09 <cpayan> :)
01:09 <Zurd> im starting to get pissed off...
01:09 <@armabot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.  Quote #91 added.
01:09 <Zurd> do i need to go into my router?
01:10 <luke-jr> Zurd: can't hurt
01:10 <Zurd> that'll be fun...its defaulted to spanish...or freanch
01:10 <luke-jr> wtf
01:11 <smoothice> luke-jr: go ahead... call me stupid
01:11 <luke-jr> smoothice: ?
01:11 <cpayan> Do you have a Willy Wonka style miniaturization machine?
01:11 <Zurd> what is the default ip for router?
01:11  * smoothice apologizes to luke-jr
01:11 <smoothice> zurd: 192.168.1.1
01:11 <luke-jr> OMG THAT IS A SWEET IDEA
01:11 <smoothice> ...
01:12 <Zurd> ty
01:12 <luke-jr> a zone that shrinks your cycle and walls and speed
01:12 <smoothice> luke-jr: what else am I to do?
01:12 <smoothice> luke-jr: suffer under your supreme rein?
01:12 <smoothice> luke-jr: lol
01:12 <luke-jr> smoothice: wtf are you talking about?
01:12 <smoothice> luke-jr: me spreading false rumor
01:13 <luke-jr> smoothice: or you could just get a VPS next time I have a special (or before, I don't mind ☺ and experience the awesomeness for yourself XD
01:14  * luke-jr assigns cycle shrinkage to cpayan
01:14 <smoothice> luke-jr: you actually want me to switch vps providers?
01:15 <luke-jr> smoothice: eh, I wouldn't mind one bit
01:15 <luke-jr> nmap sez Zurd's IP doesn't exist :x
01:15 <smoothice> luke-jr: figured
01:15 <smoothice> justp ing it?
01:15 <luke-jr> no ping either
01:15 <smoothice> traceroute?
01:15 <luke-jr> it's like a black hole
01:16 <luke-jr> 12:  ge3-0-0-dhspca1-10k1.dc.rr.com (66.74.97.165)         69.210ms asymm 11
01:16 <luke-jr> that's the last tracepath hop
01:17 <luke-jr> what's odd is, since he got the SSH key hash, he should be able to get in…
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01:17 <luke-jr> hey, that's an idea
01:17 <luke-jr> Zurd: can you traceroute to the VPS?
01:17 <smoothice> ?
01:18 <luke-jr> and paste it on http://rafb.net/paste
01:19 <Zurd> i need to get this crap translated, its pissing me off
01:19 <smoothice> luke-jr: if you do a make install into a directory that you previously installed into, does that upgrade the binary?
01:19 <luke-jr> smoothice: the binary, yes
01:20 <luke-jr> smoothice: but there's a reason we have 'make uninstall'
01:20 <luke-jr> ☺
01:22 <Zurd> thank god...i fixed it...:D
01:22 <luke-jr> Zurd: yay
01:23 <Zurd> tracerouting nat.router.dashjr.org
01:23 <Zurd> traceroute: unknown host nat.router.dashjr.org
01:23 <luke-jr> wtf O.o
01:24 <Zurd> O.O
01:24 <luke-jr> Zurd: your DNS is broken -.-
01:24 <Zurd> maybe its not me :o
01:24 <luke-jr> 70.187.26.118
01:24 <Zurd> 1 traceroute to 70.187.26.118 (70.187.26.118) ,30 hops max,40 byte packet 2 10.53.128.1 (10.53.128.1) 10. 0 ms 10. 0 ms 0. 0 ms 3 66.74.97.166 (66.74.97.166) 0. 0 ms 0. 0 ms 0. 0 ms
01:24 <Zurd> :O
01:25 <luke-jr> wtf?
01:25 <luke-jr> Zurd: try with VNC
01:25 <Zurd> kk
01:25 <Zurd> connection fail
01:26 <Zurd> "1 traceroute to 70.187.26.118 (70.187.26.118) ,30 hops max,40 byte packet 2 10.53.128.1 (10.53.128.1) 10. 0 ms 10. 0 ms 0. 0 ms 3 66.74.97.166 (66.74.97.166) 0. 0 ms 0. 0 ms 0. 0 ms 4 66.74.96.13 (66.74.96.13) 0. 0 ms 10. 0 ms 0. 0 ms 5 * * * * 6 * * * * 7 * * * * 8 66.109.6.64 (66.109.6.64) 10. 0 ms 10. 0 ms 10. 0 ms 9 66.109.6.131 (66.109.6.131) 10. 0 ms 10. 0 ms 10. 0 ms 10 66.109.9.114 (66.109.9.114) 10. 0 ms 20. 0 m
01:26 <luke-jr> can you forward port 5900 and set a password on the VNC?
01:28 <Zurd> port range ip?
01:28 <luke-jr> ⁇?
01:28 <Zurd> nvm
01:29 <Zurd> what protical?
01:29 <luke-jr> TCP
01:30 <Zurd> end?
01:30 <Zurd> start 5900? end 5900?
01:31 <Zurd> what the command to flush my dns?
01:32 <luke-jr> ipconfig /flushdns ?
01:32 <luke-jr> maybe
01:32 <Zurd> yeah thats it
01:33 <Zurd> there is no connecting to ya...
01:34 <luke-jr> :/
01:34 <luke-jr> you forwarded the port?
01:36 <Zurd> ok...i need a friggin walk through, i dont think im doing this right, although i do..
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02:14 <luke-jr> I think zurd has at least one virus :x
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02:21 <cpayan> luke-jr, had to wait until he left to say that?
02:21 <luke-jr> well, he left as I was typign it XD
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03:01 <cpayan> anyone care to tell me what the message for my away thing was?
03:02 <cpayan> nah never mind
03:02 <madmax> x_X
03:02 <cpayan> well actually, do it, madmax
03:03  * cpayan is a bit of a will o' the wisp
03:03 <luke-jr> ?
03:03 <madmax> I didn't see any away message (thankfully)
03:03 <luke-jr> cpayan: what away thing?
03:03 <cpayan> no away thing
03:03 <cpayan> i guess
03:03 <cpayan> :)
03:04 <cpayan> I wonder what that's about
03:04 <luke-jr> /away only affects /whois, if people PM you, and for some clients the user list
03:04 <luke-jr> for example, my client greys names on the userlist who are away
03:05 <luke-jr> which is most definitely how it should be
03:05 <luke-jr> ☺
03:08  * madmax is away
03:08  * madmax is back
03:08  * madmax is away again
03:09  * luke-jr stabs madmax in the face
03:09 <madmax> hah, no one invented that yet
03:09 <luke-jr> did so! :<
03:10 <smoothice> hi luke-jr
03:10 <madmax> so you mean that guy on bash is rich now?
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03:10 <smoothice> luke-jr: for your vps service
03:10 <smoothice> luke-jr: Do you have a control panel?
03:14 <cpayan> luke-jr, ah, ok thanks
03:24 <Lucifer> #m Lackadaisical you
03:24 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
03:24 <Lucifer> hmmmm
03:24 <Lucifer> freeciv?
03:25 <smoothice> nah
03:30 <luke-jr> Lucifer: maybe
03:31 <luke-jr> actually, sure
03:31 <luke-jr> my bro in law isn't coming over this weekend
03:31 <luke-jr> he pissed everyone off last weekend :p
03:31 <Lucifer> heh
03:31 <Lucifer> anyone else?
03:32 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9149 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. language/english_base.txt src/engine/ePlayer.cpp): Luke Dashjr: merge sty-help-compat
03:34 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9150 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (9 files in 5 dirs): Luke Dashjr: merge fortress-respawn
03:35 <luke-jr> Lucifer: we playing?
03:35 <Lucifer> sure, I wanted to see if anyone else wanted to play before we got started
03:36 <luke-jr> Lucifer: u started w/o me?
03:36 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r894 merge fortress-respawn || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r893 merge sty-help-compat
03:36 <luke-jr> Lucifer: btw, you never sent me that saved game..
03:36 <Lucifer> well, I started a game to play while waiting to see if anybody wants to play :)
03:36 <luke-jr> XD
03:37 <luke-jr> fine, I do that too :p
03:37 <Lucifer> you can join that game if you want, I only just started it :)
03:37 <Lucifer> or I can kill it and we can start a new game
03:37 <luke-jr> ok
03:37 <luke-jr> I'll take over Texas
03:37 <Lucifer> do you want to play a particular map, or go with random?
03:37 <Lucifer> heh, I'm texas ;)
03:37 <luke-jr> I don't care
03:37 <luke-jr> let's start new
03:37 <luke-jr> this is turn 12 :x
03:39 <luke-jr> …
03:47 <Lucifer> anybody else want to play?
03:47 <Lucifer> I keep forgetting to send that save game, sorry :(
03:48 <luke-jr> [21:47:57] <abs> wowi just opened up the enclosure and the SATA power cables are soldered into the board
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04:08 <Lucifer> Vanhayes: freeciv?  ;)
04:09 <tramshed> hovaround
04:09 <smoothice> #zthread
04:09 <smoothice> #alias search zthread
04:09 <smoothice> wtf
04:09 <smoothice> How do I install zThread?
04:10 <smoothice> #alias list
04:10 <smoothice> #list Alias
04:10 <@armabot> smoothice: monologue, r, roulette, #lags, #noob, /me, 42, aawiki, action, add, afl, aka, armaconfig, armapwnage, armaservers, armasettings, arrow, as, away, babel, ball, bigbrother, bigos, bing, botsnack, bounce, brb, bug, bugs, bye, bzr, bzrarmasty, c, cafe, calc, cat, cfg, cfg2, chainfight, chatlog, check, cheers, cinf, cink, commands, cookie, crashme, crazylate, ctos, ctwf, dance, date, (5 more messages)
04:10 <Vanhayes> Lucifer: maybe in a little bit, who all is playing?
04:10 <smoothice> #more
04:10 <@armabot> smoothice: davestupidwebsite"rss, ddl, del, devhelp, dicht, die, die, digg, digitx, ding, disclaimer, dns, do, dofinger, dog, dong, donkey, doping, dorka, eds, eliza, emmy, epicfail, eroulette, f, fail, fart, farton, fastfood, fetch2, fight, finc, fingers, fink, flashyy, flerxytyme, flirt, fofo, forest, fortune, forums, freeciv, fuck!, g, gcalc, gfight, go, godtodd, going, goodbye, goodnight, (4 more messages)
04:10 <Lucifer> me and luke
04:10 <smoothice> #More
04:10 <@armabot> smoothice: grep, grep2, hd, hack, hell, hello, hey, hoop, hungary, hyphy, impregnate, insight, ircstats, jesus, joke, kill, killsomeone, kinc, kinf, king, kyle, kyo, laddle10, lags, lastseen, lastseenf, lastseen flexsmum, legit, lies, llog, lock, log, log, logs, lp, lpbug, ls, lukejrworks, m, mail, makeop, man, mcalc, meow!, mfaq, ming, monologue, morning, move, mrbougo, murder, myip, n00b, n9, (3 more messages)
04:10 <smoothice> #more
04:10 <@armabot> smoothice: nano, nerd, new, night, no, noob, null, nwctfs, nwers, nwfortress, obsolete, onlineplayers, onlineservers, pacman, path, path2, peek, phail, phlail, pingme, pingy, piong, plzpwn, poing, pong, praise, ptfort, pwn, q, quot, quote, r, raaaaaaape, randomnick, rape, rating, rating2, rating2test, real, realchatlogs, remove, removeop, res, resources, ring, rou, roulette, roulette, roulete, (2 more messages)
04:10 <smoothice> #more
04:10 <@armabot> smoothice: roulotte, roulï½…tte, rules, r‭oulette, say, sd, sd v spacelab, send, serv, serverdetails, serverinfo, servers, serverscores, shun, si, sillybot, sing, skank, slap, sleep10, sleep5, smoke, snap, spam, speed, spork, ss, stalk, stfu, stone, stop, sty, sumo, svn, t, tea, team, teamorder, test, test1, test123, testing, tg, thank, the, thecord, thing, toast, tooth, trunkbuilds, tst4, tst5, (1 more message)
04:10 <smoothice> #More
04:11 <@armabot> smoothice: tstservers, twg3random, ty, ubuntu, uname, unlock, ur, vanhayes, w, wanna, wannafight?, wc, weather, whatistheactivityofthischannel?, where, where are the noobs ?, whoami, whoareyou, whoisp4, wikipedia, wikipediamonkey, wild, wing, wisdom, wp, wrtlprnft, wut, ww, x, xd, yay, ying, youareanerd, youfail, ys, zomg, zomb, zomg, and ‭
04:11 <Vanhayes> Lucifer: ya ill play did you guys already start?
04:11 <Vanhayes> #vanhayes
04:11 <@armabot> eh? eh? eh? eh? eh? eh? EH?!?!?!!!!!!1111ONEONE
04:11 <Lucifer> yeah, we did
04:11 <Lucifer> www.davefancella.com port 5556 iirc
04:11 <smoothice> luke-jr: how do I install zThread
04:11 <Vanhayes> ah ok, ill join in in a bit
04:12 <smoothice> #myip
04:12 <@armabot> smoothice: 83.243.117.49
04:12 <Vanhayes> #myip
04:12 <@armabot> Vanhayes: 83.243.117.49
04:13 <Vanhayes> guess thats armabots ip
04:13 <smoothice> yep
04:13 <Vanhayes> hmm
04:13 <Vanhayes> #g 429/2
04:13 <@armabot> Vanhayes: 429 / 2 = 214.5
04:14 <Vanhayes> #g 214.5/40
04:14 <@armabot> Vanhayes: 214.5 / 40 = 5.3625
04:14 <Vanhayes> hmm id complain about that being so very small but its free money
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04:33 <smoothice> Hello Pathetique, Concord
04:33 <smoothice> Concord: when is ladle 20 again?
04:33 <Pathetique> \o Smoothice
04:33 <Concord> 5 april
04:33 <Pathetique> You wouldn't happen to speak German, now, would you?
04:33 <smoothice> Yep
04:33 <Pathetique> lawl
04:34 <smoothice> #t en de Hello
04:34 <@armabot> smoothice: Error: Babelfish has foiled our plans by changing its webpage format.
04:34 <smoothice> ...
04:34 <Pathetique> LOL
04:34 <Pathetique> btw
04:34 <smoothice> ?
04:34 <Pathetique> Hello in German/Dutch is Hallo, AFAIK.
04:35 <smoothice> german is dutch?
04:35 <smoothice> no
04:35 <Pathetique> NO
04:35 <smoothice> yea
04:35 <Pathetique> eeps capslock
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04:36 <Pathetique> so uh
04:36 <Pathetique> Do you sp33k g3rm4n?
04:36 <smoothice> bop
04:36 <smoothice> #l33t hello there
04:36 <Pathetique> fail.
04:36 <smoothice> #leet hello there
04:36 <smoothice> #help leet?
04:36 <smoothice> #WTF?
04:36 <@armabot> smoothice: Error: There is no command "leet?".
04:37 <Pathetique> #help smoothiceisanoob
04:37 <@armabot> Pathetique: Error: There is no command "smoothiceisanoob".
04:37 <Pathetique> :P
04:37 <smoothice> #help Pathetique sucks on his crap
04:37 <smoothice> OWND!
04:37 <@armabot> smoothice: Error: There is no command "pathetique sucks on his crap".
04:37 <smoothice> :(
04:37 <smoothice> fail
04:37 <smoothice> ..
04:37 <Pathetique> lolololol
04:38 <smoothice> #zthread
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04:49 <Vanhayes> Lucifer: actually im going to try and get a good nights sleep tonight, no freeciv for me
04:49 <Vanhayes> #night
04:49 <@armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
04:49 <Lucifer> ko
04:49 <Lucifer> 'night
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04:59 <luke-jr> Lucifer: jerk
05:00 <Lucifer> heh
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05:17 <smoothice> luke-jr: hi
05:18 <luke-jr> <.<
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05:22 <SoBeiT> Hey guys, quick question, i know there is a way to get a black bike and yellow tail, but is there a color combo that i can use to get a yellow bike and black tail?
05:22 <luke-jr> SoBeiT: all of that is unsupported bugs
05:23 <luke-jr> realistically, the bike and tail are always the same colour
05:23 <SoBeiT> ... that didn't answer my question.
05:24 <SoBeiT> "realistically" i can see two different bike colors if a color is above 15
05:24 <luke-jr> SoBeiT: that's a bug
05:25 <luke-jr> because the colour can't be above 15 really
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05:26 <SoBeiT> that sucks, i thought the devs did that on purpose.  maybe it should be supported so we can customize our bikes a little more.  thanks anyway luke-jr
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05:29 <luke-jr> …
05:35 <joda_bot> luke-jr: still awake ... what time is it for you ?
05:39 <luke-jr> 11:40 PM
05:44 <smoothice> wewt wewt
05:45 <luke-jr> ?
05:45 <luke-jr> ok look
05:45 <luke-jr> guys
05:45 <luke-jr> stop pinging me if you have nothing to say
05:45 <luke-jr> -.-
05:51 <luke-jr> trollfest in #Jesus if anyone wants to join
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06:01 <joda_bot> sorry, l u k e - j r
06:03 <luke-jr> -.-
06:10 <teabot> xclanaarepo: Added official ladle 18 settings <http://xclan.armagetron.co.uk/resource/revision/epsy46@free.fr-20090205123500-330pn75la79bb3yg> || Added CrAsHeD@durkadurkaland.com/SumoDf-3.aamap.xml <http://xclan.armagetron.co.uk/resource/revision/epsy46@free.fr-20090129025437-w6peb7vq1zqzdkrh> || add GLOBAL_ID to the config <http://xclan.armagetron.co.uk/resource/revision/epsy46@free.fr-20081121211113-duindfsp5epr8ool> || official config <http://xcla
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06:13 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r894 merge fortress-respawn || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r893 merge sty-help-compat || [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r663 merge from 0.2.8-sty (and make conflicted regions more merga... || [armagetronad-v2sty] r889 Scoring now works properly || [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r662 merging with 0.2.8 r1098 || [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] merge from 0.2.8 || [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r662 merge from 
06:13 <@armabot> lpbugs: [341875] Pigsty shots kill players even when they are just spawning and are "invincible". <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/341875> || [341491] armagetronad.real crashed with SIGSEGV - Reset screen resolution <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/341491> || [338969] /commands do not work when hosting a lan game <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/338969> || [337193] Locked teams with only AIs <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/337193>
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07:13 <Lucifer> luke-jr: sorry, now I'm really bored with this game :(
07:15 <luke-jr> Lucifer: me too!
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07:44  * joda_bot wonders what game is boring :-)
07:58 <tramshed> all of tem
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09:55 <teabot> tstnews: akruD & droLegaS win the TST 2009.01 <http://tst.armagetron.co.uk/news/akrud-drolegas-win-the-tst-200901/> || Final challenge board up <http://tst.armagetron.co.uk/news/final-challenge-board-up/> || Registration is now open <http://tst.armagetron.co.uk/news/registration-is-now-open/> || TST 2009.01 <http://tst.armagetron.co.uk/news/tst-200901/> || DurkLord & SageKa win the TST 2008.11 <http://tst.armagetron.co.uk/news/durklord-sageka-win-the
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12:44 <Concord> emmy_arma: would you kindly tell CTxGonzap, that I'm available for his challenge (open sumo is full)
12:45 <emmy_arma> ok
12:45 <Concord> thanx
12:46 <emmy_arma> catfight is down
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12:50 <Concord> ah ok
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13:03 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/VOV/race/Shield-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by VOV
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14:06 <epsy> mm, how would I go about chaging my mouse sensivity ?
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14:31 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r9151 /armagetronad/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
14:31 <@armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 9143 to 9148:
14:31 <@armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
14:31 <@armabot> armagetronad:  r9146 | bazaarmagetron | 2009-03-12 12:08:13 +0100 (Thu, 12 Mar 2009) | 2 lines
14:31 <@armabot> armagetronad:  Manuel Moos: Fixed sound muting when switching sound settings.
14:31 <@armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
14:31 <@armabot> armagetronad:  r9145 | bazaarmagetron | 2009-03-12 12:07:06 +0100 (Thu, 12 Mar 2009) | 5 lines
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14:34 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9152 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. NEWS): Manuel Moos: Updated for beta3.
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14:54 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r9153 /armagetronad/tags/0.2.8.3_beta3/: Tagged 0.2.8.3_beta3
14:57 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/VOV/race/Insane-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by VOV
15:02 <smoothice> z-manuel: beta3 released today?
15:02 <smoothice> #cfg2 ladderlog_write_round_winner
15:02 <@armabot> smoothice: LADDERLOG_WRITE_ROUND_WINNER: Write to ladderlog: ROUND_WINNER (Default: 1 )
15:03 <z-manuel> looks like it.
15:04 <smoothice> z-manuel: how many betas before release?
15:04 <smoothice> #cfg2 ladderlog_write_round_score
15:04 <@armabot> smoothice: LADDERLOG_WRITE_ROUND_SCORE: Write to ladderlog: ROUND_SCORE [](Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_ROUND_SCORE_TEAM: Write to ladderlog: ROUND_SCORE_TEAM (Default: 1 )
15:05 <smoothice> #ladderlog_write_death_frag
15:05 <smoothice> #cfg2 ladderlog_write_death_frag
15:05 <@armabot> smoothice: LADDERLOG_WRITE_DEATH_FRAG: Write to ladderlog: DEATH_FRAG (Default: 1 )
15:06 <z-manuel> smoothice: as many as it takes to get rid of the important bugs.
15:06 <z-manuel> all the known ones are none now, so MAYBE this will be the last beta.
15:06 <smoothice> alright
15:06 <smoothice> I'm really eager to use something other as 0.2.8.2.1 as my main client
15:06 <smoothice> than*
15:07 <smoothice> and I think most people are too
15:14 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r895 Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 9143 to 9148:... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1099 Updated for beta3....
15:16 <epsy> were the weird crashes 5on windows ?° fixed?
15:16 <epsy> oh dear
15:16 <epsy> 5 -> (
15:16 <epsy> ° -> )
15:17 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r9154 /armagetronad/trunk/ (. armagetronad/NEWS):
15:17 <@armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 9148 to 9152:
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15:17 <@armabot> armagetronad:  r9152 | bazaarmagetron | 2009-03-14 14:34:20 +0100 (Sat, 14 Mar 2009) | 2 lines
15:17 <@armabot> armagetronad:  Manuel Moos: Updated for beta3.
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15:24 <guru3> anyone about?
15:26 <smoothice> guru3: hi
15:34 <guru3> http://forums.armagetronad.net/download.php?id=9958
15:35 <smoothice> guru3: can we try it out?
15:35 <guru3> not really no
15:36 <smoothice> awww
15:36 <smoothice> fine :D
15:36 <guru3> it's only on my desktop
15:36 <smoothice> local server instance?
15:36 <guru3> yes
15:37 <smoothice> ooo k
15:38 <guru3> don't really have the bandwith here
15:38 <guru3> to be hosting it for others to use
15:38 <guru3> http://forums.armagetronad.net/download.php?id=9959
15:39 <smoothice> I mean more like
15:39 <smoothice> upgrading the main server
15:39 <smoothice> for it :D
15:39 <guru3> well i'll consider it
15:39 <smoothice> k
15:40 <guru3> the forums would go offline for quite a while is the thing
15:40 <guru3> so i can't do it with no warning
15:40 <smoothice> yeah
15:42 <guru3> but it hasn't been too bad getting it converted to phpbb3
15:43 <guru3> didn't have to do much from scratch
15:47 <smoothice> guru3: it seems like you wouldn't have to take the forums offline that long since you just you didn't have to do much from scratch
15:48 <guru3> only you know, convert from phpbb2 to phpbb3
15:48 <smoothice> guru3: to make the process easier, you could use lighttpd and set the whole thing up on both of the servers and then just switch the port
15:48 <guru3> which ive only done once
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16:14 <luke-jr> smoothice: uh, wtf?
16:15 <luke-jr> Apache can do that just as well as lighttpd
16:15 <luke-jr> the problem is freezing the DB so people don't post while he converts
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17:22 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Blaze/Race/Jester-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Blaze
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17:24 <smoothice> luke-jr: you could make the DB read-only
17:24 <luke-jr> smoothice: I suppose
17:24 <luke-jr> but I doubt phpBB works with that
17:24 <luke-jr> it needs to modify the db to login or read posts
17:24 <smoothice> to login?
17:24 <smoothice> oh
17:24 <smoothice> last visit..
17:25 <luke-jr> and view count
17:25 <luke-jr> and session list
17:25 <smoothice> ack
17:25 <smoothice> acK!
17:25 <smoothice> lol
17:25 <smoothice> bigger project than Ithought lol
17:26 <luke-jr> besides, even read-only would need prior scheduling
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17:31 <guru3> 3/14 is national pi day
17:31 <guru3> lols
17:32 <luke-jr> no
17:32 <luke-jr> pi day is March 4
17:33 <guru3> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10194354-38.html?tag=nl.e703
17:34 <luke-jr> wow
17:34 <luke-jr> idiots
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17:39 <smoothice> luke-jr: it's 3/14 -.-
17:39 <luke-jr> smoothice: no, it's not
17:39 <luke-jr> pi is 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419………….
17:39 <smoothice> 3/4 ≠ 3.14
17:40 <luke-jr> March 4th is .1415926… into March
17:40 <smoothice> how is it march 4th then
17:40  * wrtlprnft likes π approximation day on july 22 more…
17:40 <smoothice> ...
17:40 <luke-jr> March has 31 days
17:40 <luke-jr> 31 * .1415926535 == 4.3893722585
17:40 <smoothice> 4.3
17:41 <smoothice> well aren't you cool :P
17:41 <wrtlprnft> #g abs(pi - 22/7)/pi
17:41 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
17:41 <wrtlprnft> #g (pi - 22/7)/pi
17:41 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: (pi - (22 / 7)) / pi = -0.000402499435
17:41 <wrtlprnft> #g (pi - 3.14)/pi
17:41 <smoothice> #g 31 * .1415926535
17:41 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: (pi - 3.14) / pi = 0.000506957383
17:41 <@armabot> smoothice: 31 * .1415926535 = 4.38937226
17:42 <wrtlprnft> #g (pi - (3+4/31))/pi
17:42 <smoothice> so folks
17:42 <smoothice> wassup?
17:42 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: (pi - (3 + (4 / 31))) / pi = 0.00399809807
17:42 <wrtlprnft> see? 22/7 is better than all that other crap :-)
17:42 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: 22/7 isn't better than my pi approximation
17:43 <wrtlprnft> 0.00399809807 > 0.000402499435
17:43 <luke-jr> 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419713
17:43 <smoothice> I know 50 digits in my head
17:43 <luke-jr> that's pi as I have it memorized
17:43 <smoothice> beat THAT!
17:43 <wrtlprnft> incoded into a date, of course.
17:43 <wrtlprnft> get a life, guys
17:43 <luke-jr> lol
17:43 <smoothice> ?
17:43 <smoothice> where can I download one of those
17:43 <luke-jr> download what?
17:43 <smoothice> a life
17:44 <luke-jr> o
17:44 <luke-jr> gl
17:44 <wrtlprnft> http://live.com
17:44  * wrtlprnft hides
17:44 <smoothice> ARGGGGGGG
17:44  * smoothice chases wrtlprnft
17:44  * luke-jr goes wrtlprnft hunting
17:44 <smoothice> lol
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17:48  * wrtlprnft can't believe he's forced to download an illegal copy of vc6 to compile an open source project for windows :x
17:48 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: don't do that! :o
17:49 <smoothice> what is vc6?
17:49 <wrtlprnft> visual c
17:49 <wrtlprnft> actually c++
17:49 <smoothice> well
17:49 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: you know you can't distribute the binary? ;)
17:49 <smoothice> you can download the free working model edition
17:49 <smoothice> but you cannot make exes
17:49 <smoothice> which I guess makes it pointless
17:49 <smoothice> lol
17:49 <wrtlprnft> yeah, that's pointless
17:50 <luke-jr> …
17:50 <smoothice> ?
17:50 <wrtlprnft> i can use the free 2008 stuff, but i can't get it to work correctly
17:50 <smoothice> that's .net
17:51 <luke-jr> for Windows binaries, the GPL defines the compiler as part of the build system ;)
17:51 <luke-jr> which means your source code must include the compiler
17:52 <wrtlprnft> well, all the windows binaries of that project are made iwth vc6
17:52 <smoothice> port them to .net?
17:52 <luke-jr> so it's either GPL violation or GPL exception
17:53 <luke-jr> why port to .net?
17:53 <luke-jr> port to MingW
17:53 <wrtlprnft> do i look like a windows a windows dev?
17:53 <smoothice> yes
17:53 <smoothice> lol
17:53 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: you're the one talking about VC6 and Windoze stuff
17:53 <luke-jr> I do all my development on Linux
17:54 <luke-jr> including making EXEs and Windows installers
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17:54 <smoothice> ?
17:54 <smoothice> Wine?
17:54 <luke-jr> smoothice: no
17:54 <luke-jr> I just cross-compile
17:54 <luke-jr> and NSIS has a Linux port
17:55 <luke-jr> though I admit there was one project for work that I had to use VB6 /compile in WINE to build
17:55 <luke-jr> but I rewrote it in C first chance I got
18:10 <epsy> Lackadaisical, these shots are just sketches done in gimp/inkscape right?
18:11 <Lackadaisical> yeah, did them in photoshop
18:11 <epsy> mm heretism
18:11 <Lackadaisical> heh
18:11 <epsy> it4s way simplier than anything I4ve thought of
18:11 <guru3> they look good
18:11 <epsy> yet it looks good
18:11 <epsy> brbb
18:11 <Lackadaisical> thanks
18:12 <guru3> i don't envy whoever wants to build them into themes though
18:12 <guru3> that sort of work is tricky
18:12 <epsy> nah
18:13 <epsy> depends on the software to theme
18:13 <epsy> that's why I hate phpbb so much
18:13 <epsy> brb
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18:14 <epsy> right, that's better
18:14 <guru3> i'm thinking to go ahead and upgrade to phpbb3
18:14 <Lackadaisical> but i just received a msg from luci/armabot that im actually the dedicated webguy that was picked up
18:14 <Lackadaisical> I.. didn't know that?
18:15 <Lackadaisical> can I even do anything with the website?
18:15 <guru3> probably... not
18:15 <epsy> guru3, please, consider bbpress
18:16 <guru3> i'm not being impressed with it
18:16 <epsy> have you tried to theme it?
18:16 <guru3> no
18:16 <guru3> but ive just tried to use it
18:17 <epsy> and?
18:17 <guru3> im not thrilled
18:17 <luke-jr> reminder: I did a little experiment with MediaWiki for the main website a while back
18:18 <epsy> guru3, it's just a forum software heh
18:18 <guru3> and for being a forum software
18:18 <guru3> im not thrilled
18:18 <epsy> even if I tell you mods don't break on upgrades?
18:19 <guru3> the technical benefits are minor
18:19 <guru3> because i'm not spending most of the time maintaining it, i'm spending it using it
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18:19 <epsy> it's adminning functions are rather simple to use
18:20 <luke-jr> epsy: he just said that stuff doesn't matter -.-
18:20 <epsy> well, the other part of "using" it is just reading posts and responding to them
18:21 <guru3> with the reply button all the way at the bottom?
18:21 <guru3> no paging that i could see
18:21 <wrtlprnft> woot!
18:21 <wrtlprnft> no paging!
18:21 <wrtlprnft> gogogo!
18:21 <guru3> no place for the quote/edit button
18:22 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/BigTronDaddy/Race/aMazed-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by BigTronDaddy
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18:27 <epsy> it has paging
18:27 <epsy> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/wordpress-and-bbpress-integration-101
18:28 <epsy> there's an edit function afaik, and it can be limited on a certain amount of time
18:28 <epsy> for the quote button, either you should be logged in, either it's probably available as a plugin
18:30 <epsy> oh, and on top of that, there's an antispam plguin :)
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18:49 <luke-jr> what's wrong with phpBB3 anyhow?
18:50 <zmanuel> The default answer to all your 'what's wrong' questions: it would be work.
18:50 <epsy> and it is :/
18:51 <epsy> what will we do when we get up to GID-based authentication?
18:52 <luke-jr> zmanuel: afaik, guru3's ready to do phpBB3 and epsy interjected some bbpress thing that apparently sucks and I've never heard of ☺
18:53 <epsy> well, it's gonna suck when we HAVE to mod it
18:53 <guru3> ive more or less worked out how to do the phpbb3 conversion
18:53 <luke-jr> epsy: we don't have to mod it
18:53 <guru3> Lackadaisical: what was the font you used for the normal text on that mockup?
18:54 <epsy> luke-jr, because GID-based authentication works right out of the box with pbpbb3, and because it's supereasy to theme while keeping content separated from form
18:55 <luke-jr> epsy: phpbb3 is afaik designed to support external auth
18:55 <luke-jr> (if not, phpbb authors are idiots)
18:55 <epsy> have fun
19:09 <wrtlprnft> woot
19:09 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: got around any vc
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19:10 <wrtlprnft> i only needed to compile a dll (as a plugin), and since i didn't manage to compile the entire project with any vc i just used codeblocks to make a new project for the dll
19:10 <wrtlprnft> quite hacky (in fact really hacky, but it works)
19:12 <wrtlprnft> btw, dokan+tortoisesvn+browsing a remote svn repo = really really really slow
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19:18 <luke-jr> vc?
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19:20 <Lackadaisical> guru3: arial
19:20 <Lackadaisical> i was thinking of just putting sans-serif in the css, so that would mean arial on windows
19:20 <guru3> cheers
19:21 <Lackadaisical> i'd prefer helvetica though
19:25 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: vc == visual c :o
19:33 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r934 Merge from trunk...
19:36 <cpayan> Lackadaisical, Helvetica's great :)
19:37  * wrtlprnft wouldn't want to read the body text of a web page in helevetica
19:37 <cpayan> Why not just use font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; and be done
19:38  * wrtlprnft is still looking for the just-kill-heveletica-arial-and-friends-and-just-use-the-sans-serif-font-i-configured setting
19:40 <wrtlprnft> maybe i should look into ways to make opera believe those fonts don't exist on my system. that would solve a lot.
19:40 <Lackadaisical> there's no setting for that in opera? i think you can set it in firefox
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19:41 <wrtlprnft> Lackadaisical: you can say what you want sans-serif to map to
19:41 <wrtlprnft> but i haven't seen a font blacklist yet.
19:42 <cpayan> you could just get rid of the fonts.
19:42 <luke-jr> cpayan: why not just font-family:sans-serif; ?
19:43 <wrtlprnft> well, sometimes i may want them. mostly for openoffice, when i either have to make documents that are going to be used on machines whose fontsets i don't control or to reduce alignment errors for badly written documents that use those fonts
19:43  * wrtlprnft agrees with luke-jr 
19:43 <cpayan> If I'm designing, I'd rather see the fonts I choose show up. Things can look wonky otherwise.
19:44 <luke-jr> cpayan: if things look wonky, you're doing it wrong
19:44 <wrtlprnft> well, for body text the exact font shouldn't matter for webdesign purposes, so just give the user control over it
19:45 <luke-jr> if you do it right, it shouldn't matter what exact font I'm using, how big my browser is, or if I'm using a braille display or screen reader
19:45 <cpayan> Also, at the end of the day, the vast majority of users take no part in font-selection, so why leave it to a generally apathetic group
19:45 <cpayan> luke-jr, that is aside from a discussion of fonts
19:45 <wrtlprnft> let's just say the default settings of most browsers disagree with most designers' imaginations
19:45 <luke-jr> cpayan: no it isn't
19:45 <wrtlprnft> too big, too boring, not special enough :-(
19:45 <cpayan> Yes. It is. Completely
19:46 <cpayan> Using CSS for fonts doesn't affect usability one whit.
19:46 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: user.css should be able to replace Arial with sans-serif;
19:46 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: how?
19:46 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: @font-*?
19:47 <epsy> luke-jr, lol?!
19:47 <cpayan> wrtlprnft, let's say default settings on most browsers change from browser to browser, then there's no problem, in my mind, in trying to make a consistent site across platforms and browsers
19:47 <epsy> I mean, it's a nice thing..but..no browser supports it
19:47 <wrtlprnft> hmm, that might indeed be interesting, redefining the arial @font-face
19:47 <luke-jr> epsy: I work in theory, not in practice
19:48 <luke-jr> cpayan: that is where you fail
19:48 <epsy> ah
19:48 <wrtlprnft> cpayan: web sites aren't supposed to look pixel-identical on any two computers
19:48 <luke-jr> cpayan: a site should fit in with the user's computer, not with the designer's computer
19:48 <epsy> y the way, if you want to render custom fonts: http://typeface.neocracy.org/
19:49 <cpayan> That's right, but you're both taking it to a ridiculous ideal
19:49 <luke-jr> cpayan: I'm an idealist, get used to it.
19:49 <cpayan> luke-jr, I'm not, get used to it :)
19:50 <cpayan> Also, get used to idealism having very little place in the world :)
19:51 <wrtlprnft> i don't think it's idealistic if i don't want to see a different crappy aeons-old font on every website but rather the font i'm used to (and can therefore read best)
19:53 <cpayan> Aeons-old fonts are aeons old because they're good, readable fonts. Are you really so attached to your chosen font that using a different still-decent font is that deplorable to you? Actually, drop that, it's a two-way argument, obviously.
19:53 <cpayan> Just seems like a waste of time to me to fix something that isn't broken in the least.
19:54 <wrtlprnft> well, arial isn't really all that good, it's just been bundled with windows for a long time
19:55 <luke-jr> Arial is non-Free
19:55 <dlh> and it is a rip-off of helvetica :)
19:55 <wrtlprnft> yep
19:57 <ivantis> hey luke-jr
19:57 <luke-jr> -.-
19:57 <luke-jr> what ivantis
19:57 <ivantis> you live in omaha right?
19:58 <luke-jr> yes
19:58 <ivantis> i spent the night there
19:58 <luke-jr> …
19:58 <ivantis> i went to the air and space museum thing
19:58 <luke-jr> o
19:58 <ivantis> have you ever been there?
19:58 <luke-jr> you drove 4 hours each way to spend a few hours here?
19:58 <luke-jr> what a waste of time
19:58 <guru3> http://guru3.net/temp/lack3/ boredom is evil
19:59 <ivantis> but i got to sleep inside the museum!
19:59 <luke-jr> guru3: eh, nice, but I have to scroll down to see the first reply?
19:59 <luke-jr> ivantis: still
19:59 <guru3> all i did was take the png and make it html
19:59 <ivantis> yeah the car ride was booring
19:59 <luke-jr> you probably spent more time on the road than awake in Omaha
20:00 <luke-jr> guru3: too much void space IMO
20:00 <ivantis> well, we left at 3:00
20:00 <guru3> luke-jr: tell lack
20:00 <guru3> it's his design
20:00 <wrtlprnft> guru3: eww, fixed width :(
20:00 <ivantis> went to bed at 0:00
20:00 <guru3> yeah that i didn't feel like working around
20:00 <ivantis> and woke up at 7:00
20:00 <ivantis> and left at 8:00
20:00 <luke-jr> ivantis: that makes no sense, it's not even 3:00 yet
20:00 <ivantis> no yesterday
20:01 <ivantis> i mean 15:00
20:01 <luke-jr> whatever
20:01 <wrtlprnft> guru3: at least the design itself is capable of dynamic width
20:01 <guru3> yeah
20:01 <ivantis> but it was cool. that museum is cool
20:01 <guru3> i would have basically just needed to fiddle with the header
20:01 <guru3> didn't feel like it
20:01 <wrtlprnft> well, it's just a test, so it's ok
20:01 <ivantis> guess what else?
20:01 <luke-jr> where's the png?
20:02 <guru3> the modest proposal thread
20:02 <wrtlprnft> i'm just saying that for the final version it would be next to mandatory
20:02 <ivantis> i wrote something for a commercial site
20:02 <ivantis> http://keywordvideogenerator.com/
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20:03 <guru3> turning pictures into html is such a fun chalenge
20:03 <guru3> *challenge
20:04 <luke-jr> it wouldn't be so bad if the top menu stuff went across the page fully
20:04 <luke-jr> eg, FAQ, View posts since…, Search, Profile on one line
20:04 <luke-jr> or however many fit
20:04 <guru3> turn it into 4x2 instead of 2x4
20:04 <guru3> that'd just fit
20:04 <luke-jr> no, make it dynamic like it should be
20:04 <wrtlprnft> or dynamic :-)
20:05 <guru3> i don't think you can make tables dynamic like that
20:05 <luke-jr> haven't looked at the HTML, but that *should be* a <ul><li>…</ul>
20:05 <guru3> nope, i went the poorman easy way
20:05 <luke-jr> guru3: it shouldn't be a table
20:05 <wrtlprnft> guru3: well, you can just make them wrap
20:05 <luke-jr> that's table abuse
20:05 <wrtlprnft> it won't be a rectangle, but i guess that's fine for this purpose
20:06 <wrtlprnft> if you feel really fancy you can add an optional javascript that looks at how much fits into a row and then sets the line breaks accordingly
20:06 <guru3> well as it's html, it's open source ;)
20:07 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: one thing, though: you can't really argue with screenreaders for a website exclusively related to a visual game
20:07 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: what if I want to use the forums from my rotary phone⁈
20:08 <wrtlprnft> don't :-P
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20:10 <luke-jr> hi gene
20:10 <compguygene> just a quick question about the trunk series
20:10 <compguygene> hi
20:10 <luke-jr> aww, you won't stick around? :o
20:11 <compguygene> i am going to put up a fortress trunk server
20:11 <compguygene> i may
20:11 <compguygene> is the .3 branch the current branch that ur running luke?
20:11 <luke-jr> compguygene: am I still running that? XD
20:11 <luke-jr> there is no .3 branch, it's trunk
20:12 <luke-jr> if my zv2 test is still running, it's an old branch
20:12 <luke-jr> everything from it should be merged to trunk tho
20:12 <luke-jr> heck, we have parts of sty in trunk now
20:12 <luke-jr> might be fun to try fortress with respawning XD
20:12 <compguygene> really...saw the server that ct brought up
20:13 <compguygene> i have thought about that as a trainer
20:13 <luke-jr> compguygene: I'm rewriting soccer now
20:13 <luke-jr> smoothice over there is fiddling with flags
20:13 <compguygene> would be good for the newer people to fortress in my clan
20:13 <compguygene> ahh..saw teh flags in the fortress...kewl
20:14 <luke-jr> compguygene: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+spec/sty
20:14 <guru3> oh well time for dinner, bbl
20:14 <compguygene> ty
20:14  * luke-jr updates the status
20:15 <compguygene> kewl
20:15 <compguygene> u luv the alpha client
20:15 <luke-jr> O.o?
20:15 <compguygene> it is worth the occaisional video driver crash
20:15 <luke-jr> I sit on the edge on the clients ☺
20:15 <luke-jr> trunk is nice, but kills my FPS
20:15 <compguygene> i run the latest trunk client on a vista 64 install
20:16 <luke-jr> we support Vista? XD
20:16 <compguygene> it's just plain fun
20:16 <luke-jr> and I think you mean an old alpha ;)
20:16 <luke-jr> unless you managed to compile trunk yourself on Windows
20:16 <luke-jr> in which case please post teh builds on the aabeta site
20:17 <compguygene> no, it's the last one z-man posted
20:17 <compguygene> earlier this year
20:17 <luke-jr> I didn't realize we even had a Win64 bild
20:17 <luke-jr> build
20:17 <compguygene> it's not
20:17 <luke-jr> compguygene: that one's old, and doesn't support (modern) zones v2
20:18 <compguygene> not the one thats 2 years old...he built one about 2 months ago
20:18 <luke-jr> in fact, the entire game protocol is changed since that one
20:18 <luke-jr> yeah
20:18 <luke-jr> the whole protocol was rewritten about a week after that :p
20:18 <compguygene> ha.....
20:19 <luke-jr> with backward compatibility for 0.2.8
20:19 <compguygene> maybe i will figure out how to do my own build and post it...
20:19 <luke-jr> but not for 0.3.0 or your build
20:19 <luke-jr> ;)
20:19 <compguygene> kinda busy right now
20:19 <compguygene> i got a second VPS based in germany
20:19 <luke-jr> :o
20:19 <compguygene> so i can run a tourney entirely on my own..
20:20 <luke-jr> XD
20:20 <luke-jr> I wonder why we don't have any asian players
20:20 <compguygene> no offence...it was a unique value
20:20 <luke-jr> isn't gaming supposed to be popular there?
20:20 <luke-jr> compguygene: I don't have Europe VPS yet
20:20 <compguygene> i thought you had a uk vps?
20:20 <luke-jr> I have UK Arma hosting
20:20 <compguygene> np
20:20 <luke-jr> but not UK VPS hosting
20:20 <compguygene> ahh
20:21 <compguygene> i guess i did kind of push the envelope for you with the CT location on that
20:21 <luke-jr> compguygene: hosteurope.de, btw?
20:21 <compguygene> not inter.net
20:21 <compguygene> they had a really unique low end value
20:21 <luke-jr> hm
20:22 <compguygene> i'll email you details if your curious
20:22 <luke-jr> well, I'm lookign for a dedi ☺
20:22 <compguygene> for $12 a month i have enough power for my needs.
20:22 <compguygene> i think they offer that as well
20:23 <luke-jr> hm, not finding any info on the site
20:25 <compguygene> ok..quick check...no dedicated...
20:25 <compguygene> ddd
20:25 <compguygene> sss
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20:26 <compguygene> quick check on the web...no dedicated service
20:26 <luke-jr> oh well
20:26 <compguygene> but if i run accross a deal..i will let you know...people sometimes email me stuff
20:27 <compguygene> this provider targets the SOHO market with VPS/shared services
20:27 <luke-jr> i c
20:27 <compguygene> well..i really should do some housework..
20:28 <compguygene> nice to talk with you luke..ty for the explanation of the trunk
20:28 <luke-jr> np
20:28 <compguygene> i wondered why my client didn't seem to be show all this kewl zones v2 stuff
20:28 <compguygene> c u later
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20:36 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-zone-bouncing] r897 /OnCollision; noop /zZoneInfluenceItemBounc...
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20:45 <ivantis> noop
20:45 <ivantis> ؟
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20:45 <ivantis> what does noop mean ؟
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20:46 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r9155 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases.php: Added 0.2.8.3_beta3.
20:46 <@armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
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21:15 <luke-jr> ivantis: noop is common computer terminology, idiot
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21:22 <sinewave> Concord: : how do you rock so hard? :P
21:22 <Concord> excuse me?
21:22 <sinewave> just messin with ya
21:22 <dlh> z-man: can you do a grep of your Bugfarm Sumo logfiles for "Spam prefix found"?
21:23 <Concord> kk ;)
21:23 <z-man> oh, right. sorry. forgot about that. Will do in a minute.
21:24 <z-man> Nothing found.
21:25 <z-man> There wasn't a lot of activity.
21:25 <dlh> ah
21:27 <z-man> But at least we know there were no false positives :)
21:28 <dlh> Indeed :)
21:35 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Blaze/Race/Nova-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Blaze
21:49 <madmax> café anyone?
21:53 <madmax> #tea
21:53 <@armabot> madmax: Fortress Café: Players (4/32): Ct_Concord, madmax, MobiusPoint, nara
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22:40 <@armabot> armagetronad: guru3 * r9156 /www/mainsite/ (archive.php index.php): 0.2.8.3_beta3 is out
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22:46 <luke-jr> O.o
22:46 <luke-jr> is aabeta up? ☺
22:46 <luke-jr> for you IPv4 people I mean
22:47 <luke-jr> guru3: if you're going to use the lame 3/14 notation, at least use it completely: 3/14/2009 :p
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22:48 <luke-jr> ]later tell *z*man* what happened to the automated build upload script?
22:48 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
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22:49 <luke-jr> zmanuel: u has a msg
22:50 <luke-jr> btw, isn't it time to move to a RC? :p
22:50 <luke-jr> that's what the changelog seems to describe to me, anyhow
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22:51 <animuson> why is beta.armagetronad.net down?
22:51 <luke-jr> animuson: I just asked if it was and nobody answered.
22:51 <zmanuel> There were too many changes since beta2 to call it a RC.
22:52 <luke-jr> the simple answer is house cleaning ☺
22:52 <animuson> :P
22:52 <luke-jr> I wanted to reorganize the cable coax
22:52 <luke-jr> <.<
22:52 <zmanuel> And the automatic build script is still there and working fine :)
22:52 <animuson> when will it be back up? ^_^
22:52 <luke-jr> zmanuel: so why is it a pain?
22:52 <zmanuel> The main problem is the time the upload takes.
22:52 <luke-jr> animuson: well, it was never down on IPv6 ;)
22:53 <zmanuel> THe other services are way more annoying, though.
22:53 <luke-jr> zmanuel: oh, should be simple to have aabeta fetch from LP/SF
22:53 <zmanuel> For lack of automation possibility :)
22:53 <luke-jr> hm
22:54 <luke-jr> animuson: when I figure out the problem
22:54  * luke-jr reboots the modem
22:54 <luke-jr> … ACQ DS indicates we're RF return
22:55 <luke-jr> $$MCNS_STARTUP_COMPLETE$$
22:55 <luke-jr> yay
22:55 <luke-jr> IP will probably change tho
22:55 <luke-jr> DNS propagation :x
22:55 <luke-jr> zmanuel: expect a lot of "I hate AAbeta cuz it's down when u release beta3"
22:55 <luke-jr> :/
22:55 <zmanuel> Actually, it's leading so far.
22:56 <zmanuel> One vote against 0 :)
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22:56 <luke-jr> zmanuel: cuz I'm the only voter so far
22:56 <zmanuel> thought so ;)
22:56 <luke-jr> animuson: is it working by any chance?
22:57 <zmanuel> It's working for me now.
22:57 <luke-jr> good
22:57 <luke-jr> I manually added my old IP <.<
22:57 <luke-jr> yay for stupid standards like DOCSIS :D
22:59 <smoothice> aabeta is down guys
22:59 <luke-jr> …
22:59  * luke-jr smacks smoothice
22:59 <smoothice> the IP
22:59 <smoothice> that it points you
22:59 <smoothice> isn't responding
22:59 <smoothice> to*
22:59 <luke-jr> smoothice: RTFC
22:59 <smoothice> hah
22:59 <smoothice> I love reading logs
22:59 <smoothice> :P
22:59 <smoothice> #slap smoothice
22:59 <@armabot> smoothice slaps smoothice for being a raving moron.
23:00 <luke-jr> I wish I could automate DNS updates easier
23:00 <luke-jr> I still need to update my nameserver registration and levopede-uk's master IP
23:00 <smoothice> or
23:00 <smoothice> set your ttl really low
23:01 <smoothice> ~60
23:01 <luke-jr> smoothice: nameservers have a fixed high TTL
23:01 <smoothice> 86400?
23:01 <luke-jr> yeah
23:02 <luke-jr> yeah
23:02 <luke-jr> oops
23:03 <smoothice> lol
23:03 <luke-jr> smoothice: btw, was it really not workign when you said that?
23:03 <smoothice> yes
23:03 <smoothice> it really wasn't
23:03 <luke-jr> I thought I had it working ~90 seconds before
23:03 <smoothice> Still not for me
23:03 <smoothice> I'll flush out my cache
23:03 <smoothice> but yeah
23:04 <smoothice> nope
23:04 <smoothice> no work after dns flush
23:04 <luke-jr> doh
23:04 <luke-jr> did I just give it the wrong IP? XD
23:04 <smoothice> did you?
23:05 <smoothice> 98.172.136.230 for me
23:05 <smoothice> I'm getting from dns ^
23:05 <luke-jr> meh I did
23:05 <smoothice> ...
23:05 <smoothice> hachi.dashjr.org (98.172.136.230)
23:05 <smoothice> 2 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet los
23:05 <smoothice> lol
23:05 <luke-jr> flush cache again
23:05 <smoothice> k
23:06 <animuson> its back up yay
23:06 <smoothice> my dns is still reporting 98.172.136.230
23:07 <animuson> well ur dns sux :P
23:07 <smoothice> http://www.grabup.com/uploads/a0b994be31c33af62966b73855a66129.png?direct
23:07 <luke-jr> f u animuson
23:07 <luke-jr> o
23:07 <luke-jr> smoothice's DNS
23:07 <luke-jr> I have TTL of like 300
23:07 <luke-jr> and everydns only updates once an hour I think
23:08 <smoothice> I'm forcing opendns to refresh its cache
23:08 <smoothice> should get to me eventually
23:09 <smoothice> Hachi is a Dell PowerEdge 6400 with dual Xeon processors clocked at 550 MHz with 1024 KB caches each. He has 2 GB of "real" RAM and 1 GB of virtual memory (swap).
23:09 <smoothice> that's cool
23:10 <smoothice> ok
23:10 <smoothice> aabeta back up for me
23:10 <smoothice> hachi.dashjr.org (98.172.136.133)
23:13 <luke-jr> k
23:13 <luke-jr> back to reorganziing then
23:15 <luke-jr> if it goes down again, call me
23:15 <luke-jr> :p
23:15 <luke-jr> 402-218-1954
23:15 <Concord> #si cafe
23:15 <smoothice> luke-jr: lol...
23:15 <@armabot> Concord: Fortress Café: Players (14/32): Bah, bugra, Ct_Concord, Guybrush, King Smurf, MobiusPoint, Player 1, Player 1.4, Player 2, Smurf #365, the gay smurf, `WwRudycantfail, ~|DS|~zion, ¦×¦ PlayerNuby (PlayerNub@x/member)
23:15 <Concord> :D
23:17 <smoothice> Concord: lol...
23:18 <Concord> :D
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23:23 <ivantis> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IBhJ6x2Erwk/SKIzB0qVEaI/AAAAAAAAA8I/WwWkLGVNm-o/s1600-h/hilarious-1.jpg
23:23 <ivantis> like it says, hilarious
23:23 <smoothice> ivantis: -.-
23:23 <smoothice> dammit
23:23 <smoothice> porn
23:23 <ivantis> scroll down fool
23:23 <smoothice> I actually reset my web browser after viewing that
23:24 <ivantis> Myspace: next time you try to look hot, flush the toilet.
23:24 <ivantis> (the caption)
23:28 <smoothice> I wish I could #kick ivantis
23:28 <smoothice> I guess I'll just have to
23:28 <ivantis> im looking at a really weird blog
23:28 <smoothice> #slap ivantis then
23:28 <@armabot> smoothice slaps ivantis then for being a raving moron.
23:30 <ivantis> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_eqkC4iaC5QI/SKeiNnLeReI/AAAAAAAAQbg/mA4ukA7Pv3c/s1600-h/sucker.jpg
23:30 <smoothice> no way am I clicking on that
23:31 <ivantis> dude
23:31 <smoothice> yes mam?
23:31 <ivantis> its just a bunch of suckers stuck to a guys back
23:31 <ivantis> man there are some weird pictures here
23:33 <ivantis> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_NYOy5gqSMBE/SKtOVaL8EGI/AAAAAAAABHg/0ePLIohb1ko/s1600-h/DSCN0638.jpg
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23:43 <ivantis> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_eqkC4iaC5QI/SK_3pTqGEhI/AAAAAAAARAM/sMW71cYJARI/s1600-h/ErgoQuest500.jpg
23:43 <ivantis> i need that
23:51 <luke-jr> still up?
23:52 <ivantis> huh?
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23:52 <luke-jr> aabeta
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23:54 <animuson> beta is down again :(
23:57 <ivantis> that answers his question
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23:58 <Lackadaisical> #tea
23:58 <@armabot> Lackadaisical: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): Egg, Player 1, Player 2, wap, ~|DS|~zion, ¦×¦ PlayerNuby
23:59 <luke-jr> sigh
23:59 <luke-jr> it's March

Log from 2009-03-15:
--- Day changed Sun Mar 15 2009
00:00 <luke-jr> animuson: what happened to calling me?
00:00 <luke-jr> is aabeta down for anyone other than animuson? O.o
00:00 <animuson> i dont have ur phone number?
00:00 <animuson> lol
00:00 <luke-jr> everything checks out here
00:00 <luke-jr> animuson: you should
00:01 <luke-jr> [17:15:10] <luke-jr> 402-218-1954
00:01 <animuson> its back up
00:01 <animuson> :P
00:01 <luke-jr> …
00:04 <epsy> Teaser time: http://fff.armagetron.co.uk/
00:07 <sinewave> lol!
00:07 <epsy> all the loading time just for that: pwned
00:07 <epsy> :D
00:07 <smoothice> ?stylesheet for the css
00:07 <smoothice> clever
00:08 <epsy> yeah, I'm limiting everything to one page, so the rest can be 403'd
00:08 <smoothice> yeah
00:09 <epsy> does it at least look nice?
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00:11 <epsy> :-(
00:11 <ivantis> …
00:12 <smoothice> ...
00:12 <ivantis> please do not do something like that
00:12 <smoothice> #m epsy hi
00:12 <ivantis> no "Loading"
00:12 <@armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
00:12 <ivantis> i hate that kind of thing
00:12 <epsy> #ping
00:12 <@armabot> pong
00:12 <ivantis> #ding
00:12 <epsy> smoothice, hi
00:12 <@armabot> dong
00:12 <sinewave> the fff page? looks great. it's got me looking forward to seeing it finished
00:12 <epsy> phew
00:12 <epsy> now I'm gonna deceive you :(
00:13 <sinewave> is the background made with context free art?
00:13 <epsy> no
00:13 <epsy> just gimp
00:13 <epsy> I doubt cfdg could do that
00:13 <epsy> though I can't be sure about that
00:13 <epsy> well, the smoke can't be done with cfdg
00:14 <sinewave> ah
00:14 <epsy> also, regarding flex's bs, I had contacted durka
00:14 <epsy> or FoFo
00:15 <epsy> but we contacted him to ask him if he was still going to be organizing it
00:15 <epsy> it being TST
00:15 <epsy> not I just don't want to chat with flex
00:15 <epsy> s/not/now/
00:16 <epsy> DUH HE'S WASTING MY HAPPY MOOD
00:16  * epsy wipes his mouse and closes the tab
00:16 <animuson> anyone know a good fortress config file?
00:16 <animuson> other than the default ones that come with the game
00:16 <animuson> :-/
00:17 <epsy> these are fine enough
00:17 <epsy> if you don't have it, for some reason, you can either download it from launchpad or use my compilation: http://xclan.armagetron.co.uk/resource/epsy@x/config/fortress/base.cfg
00:18 <smoothice> epsy:
00:18 <smoothice> epsy: hi wassup
00:19 <epsy> nothing special, you?
00:20 <smoothice> nuthin much
00:20  * epsy couldn't resist it
00:20 <epsy> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=204806#204806
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00:42 <epsy> @base 16 10 39
00:42 <teabot> epsy: 57
00:42 <epsy> @base 16 10 29
00:42 <teabot> epsy: 41
00:43 <epsy> @base 16 10 3A
00:43 <teabot> epsy: 58
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00:43 <joda_bot> epsy: extracting colors ? :-)
00:44 <epsy> no, characters
00:44 <joda_bot> heh
00:44 <epsy> wordpress buggin me :(
00:44 <joda_bot> what's the problem ?
00:45 <epsy> been trying to put a smiley as title=""
00:45 <epsy> it ate the whole img
00:45 <joda_bot> uh,?
00:45 <joda_bot> which wordpress version do you use ?
00:45 <epsy> http://playfortress.wordpress.com/
00:45 <joda_bot> I guess it's more a broken "simlie" extention ?
00:45 <epsy> #eliza which wordpress version do I use?
00:45 <@armabot> epsy: What do you think?
00:46 <epsy> no, it's just it didn't like either the : or the )
00:46 <epsy> do it dropped the whole <img> as text
00:47 <joda_bot> eh, whatever, looks fixed ? :D
00:47 <epsy> well yeah
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00:47 <epsy> you clicked the link, I hope
00:48 <animuson> does everytime.cfg get included before or after ROUND_COMMENCING is written to the ladderlog?
00:48 <epsy> or do I really need to put a 3px wide blue border ? :D
00:48 <epsy> before
00:50 <luke-jr> http://xclan.armagetron.co.uk/resource/epsy@x/config/fortress/base.cfg <-- we should make that work by default XD
00:50 <luke-jr> eg, have @x query the authority for a repository
00:50 <epsy> GID authors or the cfg?
00:50 <epsy> hm
00:51 <luke-jr> and let the authority provide a normal 403
00:52 <luke-jr> if author contains '@', ?query=resource&filepath=epsy@x/config/fortress/base.cfg
00:52 <epsy> that would be neat if we could upload resources using our GIDs as author names
00:52 <luke-jr> epsy: that too
00:53 <epsy> do you plan on ever doing that?
00:53 <luke-jr> in fact, maybe we should promote that over my idea
00:53 <luke-jr> epsy: why are you asking me? :x
00:53 <luke-jr> epsy: the code is right there… :/
00:53 <epsy> well, you seem to be the resource repo guy
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00:53 <epsy> path?
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00:53 <luke-jr> https://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/add-resource
00:54 <epsy> ok, I'll check it out
00:54 <luke-jr> I'd make it a library tho
00:54 <luke-jr> digest HTTP auth *should* be possible w/ armathentication
00:54 <epsy> ah
00:54 <epsy> there is already
00:54 <luke-jr> ?
00:55 <epsy> https://code.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/trunk-http-auth-client-work
00:55  * luke-jr notes all the current system is is a htpasswd file
00:55 <Lucifer> Lackadaisical: I usually specificy fonts as Helvetica, Arial, Courier, iirc.
00:55 <epsy> ewww heh
00:55 <Lucifer> so if Helvetica is available, it's always my first pick, but windows usually gets Arial because Helvetica is really just a Free version of Arial anyway ;)
00:56 <Lucifer> Lackadaisical: you have svn write access to the website stuff, right?
00:56 <Lucifer> I don't think we've moved that stuff to bzr yet
00:56  * ivantis notes that luke-jr just used an "isis"
00:56 <Lucifer> it may not even make sense to put it into bzr, that was a decision we delegated to some future time
00:56 <luke-jr> ivantis: so?
00:56 <epsy> Lucifer, by the way, are me and babybug supposed to be allowed to change topics?
00:56 <ivantis> you couldnt find a way around it?
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00:56 <Lucifer> epsy: beats me, whatever armabot lets you do
00:57 <luke-jr> epsy: that doesn't seem to use HTTP auth properly
00:57 <luke-jr> ivantis: why bother?
00:57 <Lucifer> but you're really supposed to just kick smegheads when they're causing trouble and nobody else is around to help :)
00:57 <ivantis> why not?
00:57 <Lackadaisical> I don't know.. I've only used svn once to try and upload screenshots
00:57 <epsy> Lucifer, it lets us take op, but as soon as we change the topic chanserv resets it and takes my op
00:57 <ivantis> ownt
00:57 <epsy> #op
00:57 <Lucifer> epsy: guru3 probably has some sort of enforcement on it, and that's fine
00:58 <luke-jr> epsy: … why does this try to implement HTTP itself? :/
00:58 <ivantis> "Hey, you changing the topic? Deop!"
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00:58 <Lucifer> the reason for op-via-armabot is to let more people help kicking smegheads and other friends of luke-jr
00:58 <epsy> luke-jr, uh?
00:58 <luke-jr> epsy: GET blah blah
00:59 <Lucifer> Lackadaisical: iirc, we picked up you and edd at the same time, you to work on the websites (since at the time we were growing websites faster than my whiskers grow), and edd to do graphical design
00:59 <epsy> are you talking about something under phase1-3 ?
00:59 <luke-jr> maybe
00:59 <Lucifer> and since you had already done most of the web design already, you were the obvious pick ;)
00:59 <luke-jr> yes
00:59 <epsy> that's guru3's work
00:59 <epsy> it's rather difficult to trust as a user
00:59 <epsy> IMO
01:00 <epsy> passwords are transmitted raw to the middle man
01:00 <luke-jr> epsy: that's why I wouldn't use it? ☺
01:00 <Lackadaisical> heh maybe that's true i recall sending you at least something about a redesign but I couldn't find it in my inbox anymore
01:00 <luke-jr> hm
01:00 <luke-jr> Konq doesn't show whether auth is secure either
01:00 <Lackadaisical> and that would explain why i approached you instead of tank or someone else
01:00 <luke-jr> nor does FF :<
01:00 <epsy> webform allows it not not go thru the middle at all but uses a different scheme
01:01 <epsy> that means authority support
01:01 <luke-jr> epsy: ew
01:01 <ivantis> whats FF?
01:01 <epsy> luke-jr, problem is that it is 1/ transmitted raw
01:01 <luke-jr> FireFox crap
01:01 <epsy> 2/ hard to verify anything
01:01 <ivantis> oh firefox
01:01 <luke-jr> epsy: the problem is that browsers suck :<
01:01 <luke-jr> anyone want to make a nice Firefox plugin?
01:01 <epsy> luke-jr, it is rather simple to install
01:01 <ivantis> i see. wow it feels really weird typing with Win+3 on
01:01 <epsy> it's in the http-auth-server package already
01:02 <luke-jr> epsy: it's spoofable
01:02 <epsy> the webform one?
01:02 <epsy> it is, if the user doesn't pay attention
01:02 <luke-jr> the only secure way to do this is a plugin IMO
01:02 <ivantis> all webforms are spoofable
01:02 <epsy> true
01:02 <ivantis> everything client side is spoofable
01:02 <epsy> but phase1-3 is really easy to spoof if the users doesn't look 3 hours at the code
01:02 <luke-jr> epsy: I guess for now people would need to just trust aabeta
01:03 <ivantis> its so gross that we live in a world where you cant trust people not to do mean stuff when they find a security flaw
01:03 <luke-jr> neither phase1-3 nor webform are standards compliant either
01:03 <epsy> ie. ?
01:03 <epsy> well, I think guru3 could upgrade his auth server
01:04 <epsy> which could be used as a sample of Lackadaisical's design by the way
01:04 <luke-jr> ie, 401 Unauthorized w/ WWW-Authenticate header
01:04 <epsy> does AAGID define that?
01:05 <luke-jr> epsy: HTTP does
01:06 <luke-jr> this is on the CLIENT end
01:06 <epsy> link?
01:06 <luke-jr> between client and res repo
01:06 <luke-jr> http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec10.html#sec10.4.2
01:06 <epsy> wait, what's the actual problem?
01:06 <epsy> ah
01:07 <luke-jr> epsy: phase/webform are abusing HTML <form> for authentication
01:07 <luke-jr> when HTTP already has a more secure standard
01:07 <luke-jr> especially when used with the digest algo
01:07 <luke-jr> which unfortunately browsers don't inform the user
01:07 <epsy> so does 90%+ of the websites actually out there
01:07 <epsy> and actually it's up to the webmaster to use a <form> or not
01:08 <luke-jr> using a form isn't standards compliant
01:08 <epsy> it's how it's done in the test.php, but one could have it's client do id_rsa auth
01:08 <luke-jr> that's why we have nonsense hacks to remember passwords
01:08 <luke-jr> if everyone used HTTP auth, password remembering would be simple
01:09 <luke-jr> the only weakness in HTTP auth is that you can't logout with most browsers
01:09 <luke-jr> but that's a client bug
01:09 <epsy> again, it's up to the webmaster, entirely
01:09 <epsy> on webform, at least
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01:11 <Your_mom_arma> #ping
01:11 <@armabot> pong
01:11 <Your_mom_arma> overlay?
01:12 <epsy> luke-jr, also, an enourmous flaw:
01:12 <epsy> javascript:window.open("http://78.192.34.55:8080/~epsy/tst.armagetron.co.uk")
01:12 <epsy> check your address bar when the prompt shows up
01:13 <epsy> that makes detecting spoofing impossible until you've actually got spoofed
01:14 <epsy> wether it may be valid or not, it just HAS to be NEVER used
01:15 <Your_mom_arma> is zmanuel still around?
01:15 <zmanuel> no :)
01:16 <Your_mom_arma> okay, fair enough
01:16 <zmanuel> Just kidding. I'm around.
01:16 <Your_mom_arma> you got me :D
01:16 <Your_mom_arma> overlay?
01:17 <zmanuel> Yeah, the bit that shows the players that are on Mumble even in fullscreen games.
01:17 <luke-jr> epsy: uh, no?
01:17 <luke-jr> my addressbar has the URI
01:17 <epsy> firefox has not
01:17 <luke-jr> and the prompt clearly says "Was something meant to be here, huh? ;) at 78.192.34.55
01:17 <luke-jr> firefox bug
01:17 <luke-jr> report it
01:18 <epsy> yeah, firefox bug
01:18 <Your_mom_arma> oh, its in expert config
01:19 <epsy> I doubt you really know anything about webdevelopement luke..it's almost entirely about working around browser bug
01:19 <epsy> the last tiny bit is the actual fun part
01:19 <Your_mom_arma> yep, disabling that fixed it
01:20 <zmanuel> Hmm. Of course, the overlay is one of the key features of Mumble.
01:20 <epsy> couldn't it be integrated into the HUD?
01:20 <epsy> how do other games do?
01:20 <zmanuel> Possibly, but we'd need to poll info from mumble.
01:21 <Your_mom_arma> I play arma in window mode anyway
01:21 <zmanuel> Ah. then you don't need the overlay. And it may be related.
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01:33 <Your_mom_arma> thanks for the help.
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01:36 <luke-jr> epsy: I isolate my workarounds.
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01:42 <luke-jr> hi ct|kyle
01:42 <ct|kyle> oi luke-jr
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01:47 <luke-jr> :<
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01:53 <joda_bot> gn8
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10:56 <guru3> good morning everybody
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11:38 <Lucifer> morning guru3 (hi there!)
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12:11 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r935 Taught attacker to aim for the gap for insertion attacks....
12:23 <Lucifer> http://www.theonion.com/content/news/fda_approves_salmonella
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15:09 <smoothice> ct|kyle: say... wanna df?
15:09 <smoothice> #ls +|smo
15:09 <ct|kyle> smoothice: not now
15:09 <smoothice> :(
15:09 <@armabot> smoothice: +|SmOoThice~NW seems to be on  ~Night Walker's Central~DF~ right now.
15:10 <smoothice> ct|kyle: ok
15:10 <smoothice> epsy: say... wanna df?
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15:21 <Chinaren> hello?
15:21 <epsy> df?
15:21 <epsy> hi Chinaren
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15:21 <smoothice> epsy: dog fight
15:22 <compguygene> hi
15:22 <epsy> smoothice, the arbitrary rules "gametype" ?
15:22 <smoothice> yo compguydude
15:22 <smoothice> epsy: 1
15:22 <epsy> no thanks
15:22 <smoothice> epsy: mls
15:22 <smoothice> lms
15:22 <smoothice> compguygene: hows fff coming
15:22 <epsy> I don't have time now, and I would only play it if it was enforced by settings
15:22 <epsy> compguygene, #.tourneys
15:23 <compguygene> on my way
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16:11 <smoothice> epsy: how can I compile one armagetron binary
16:12 <smoothice> epsy: and then run multiple isntances of it for multiple servers
16:12 <smoothice> epsy: what flags do I need to pass to it for it to work correctly?
16:13 <Vanhayes> #tea
16:13 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): 'rope, pruWord (Word@forums), stax, SuBlImInAl.FreQ, |A|--->, ~|DS|~zion (zion@forums)
16:14 <smoothice> compgygene: ^... it looks like for the server pharm you use one binary and run it multiple times.. how do you do that with different settings? userconfigdir and vardir?
16:14 <ct|kyle> smoothice: --prefix /path/to/bin/
16:14 <smoothice> ?
16:14 <smoothice> ct|kyle: huh?
16:15 <ct|kyle> if you set a perfix and then run it with that prefix you can run it multiple times
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16:18 <ct|kyle> smoothice: actually you should be able to compile it anyway and then set it up to run on any server LOL
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16:23 <smoothice> ct|kyle: can I just make a shell script for each server
16:23 <smoothice> and a settings folder
16:23 <smoothice> and a var folder
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16:26 <smoothice> ct|kyle: what is userconfigdir vs. configdir?
16:29 <ct|kyle> smoothice yes
16:32 <dlh> userconfig is where you keep your config files. configdir holds the default ones
16:33 <smoothice> dlh: so settings_custom.cfg would be the only file in userconfigdir
16:34 <smoothice> dlh: and/or server_info.cfg
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16:35 <dlh> right, but you could set userdata dir and everything else would be all set
16:35 <smoothice> dlh: there's a userdatadir?
16:36 <dlh> yea, look here: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Configuration_Files
16:36 <smoothice> ok thanks
16:37 <smoothice> dlh: I was thinking of just setting userconfigdir and vardir
16:37 <smoothice> dlh: then leave the rest to default
16:37 <smoothice> dlh: wouldn't that work?
16:38 <dlh> Yea, that should also work.
16:40 <smoothice> dlh: ok
16:40 <epsy> @aawikis multiple instances
16:40 <teabot> epsy: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Making_Maps_by_Hand - Making Maps by Hand - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
16:40 <smoothice> wow
16:40 <epsy> okay
16:40 <smoothice> fail
16:40 <smoothice> :P
16:40 <epsy> @aawikis multiple instances linux
16:40 <teabot> epsy: no results for: multiple instances linux site:wiki.armagetronad.net
16:40 <epsy> @aawikis multiple dedicated linux
16:41 <teabot> epsy: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Running_Multiple_Servers_on_a_single_Linux_computer - Running Multiple Servers on a single Linux computer - Armagetron ...
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16:41 <smoothice> thanks epsy døød
16:42 <smoothice> lol
16:42 <SuPeRTaRD> re
16:42 <SuPeRTaRD> did i miss anything?
16:42 <epsy> yeah
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16:45 <SuPeRTaRD> hi fonkay
16:46 <SuPeRTaRD> lack,  luci,  etc...     ltns
16:57 <joda_bot> SuPeRTaRD: hi
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17:16 <smoothice> ct|kyle: checking for ZTHREAD - version >= 2.3.2... yes
17:16 <smoothice> ct|kyle: :D
17:19 <SuPeRTaRD> bbl, nap & i have an old decreped laptop...
17:19  * SuPeRTaRD moved to montana
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18:20 <smoothice> dlh: vardir and userconfigdir work! thanks so much!
18:28 <dlh> smoothice: great :)
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18:35 <smoothice> dlh: what is spawn_point_group_size?
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18:47 <Pathetique> #ls 3ff3c
18:47 <armabot> Pathetique: 3ff3ct seems to be on QuantumPerformance =Dog Fight= right now.
18:48 <MrBougo> lol, QuantumPerformance
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18:51 <smoothice> Anyone want to test a server?
18:51 <smoothice> Pig Sty?
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18:51 <Pathetique> sure
18:52 <Pathetique> For 9 minutes though
18:52 <Pathetique> I have to get ready for wwork then :(
18:52 <Pathetique> #si death
18:52 <armabot> Pathetique: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (0/16):
18:52 <Pathetique> no
18:52 <Pathetique> rofl
18:53 <MrBougo> pig sty?
18:53 <MrBougo> is groundpig still around?
18:53 <MrBougo> I remember he had been away for some time when I left
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18:57 <Pathetique> #ls 3ff3ct
18:57 <armabot> Pathetique: 3ff3ct has last been seen on QuantumPerformance =Dog Fight= 7 minutes ago.
18:57 <Pathetique> oh well
18:57 <Pathetique> cu all
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18:59 <ivantis2> how do i miss this?
18:59 <ivantis2> Pathetique, come back!
19:00 <ivantis2> one of the only people who doesnt hate me
19:00 <ivantis2> #ls Pathetique
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19:00 <armabot> ivantis2: .dBd|Pathetique has last been seen on QuantumPerformance =Dog Fight= 5 minutes ago.
19:01 <ivantis2> #help ls
19:01 <armabot> ivantis2: (ls <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "lastseen $*".
19:01 <ivantis2> #help lastseen
19:01 <armabot> ivantis2: (lastseen <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/lastseen.php?player=@1+@2+@3+@4+@5+@6+@7+@8+@9".
19:02 <madmax> #ls madmax
19:02 <madmax> :O
19:03 -!- ivantis2 is now known as ivantis
19:03 <armabot> madmax: madmax has last been seen on WILDCAT 4 hours 43 minutes ago.
19:04 <madmax> ^ not me
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19:09 <ivantis> #ping
19:09 -!- ivantis [n=ivantis@63-245-159-78.kitusa.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
19:09 <armabot> pong
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19:17 <sinewave> #ls sine.wav
19:17 <armabot> sinewave: sine.wav has last been seen on .:] Twisted Rats [:. Fortress 11 hours 0 minutes ago.
19:17 <sinewave> ;)
19:17 <smoothice> sinewave; wanna come test/
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19:18 <ivantis2> i do
19:18 <smoothice> ~Night Walker's Central~Shooting~ Version: 0.2.8-sty+ct_alpha20090315 unix dedicated
19:18 <ivantis2> custom connect info?
19:18 <smoothice> list
19:18 <smoothice> master list
19:18 <ivantis2> i dont like using teh master list
19:18 <ivantis2> #sd -v night walker
19:19 <smoothice> #si -v ~Night Walker's Central~Shooting~
19:19 <armabot> ivantis2: ~Night Walker's Central~CTF~ (24.123.46.132:4539) running 0.2.8_alpha20080720 unix dedicated, url: Nightwalkers.info, Description: “Have fun, no cussing. Paid for by Beanie Hosted by Flynn's Arcade!“, Players (0/8):
19:19 <smoothice> I don't remember what ports it's on
19:19 <smoothice> wow
19:19 <smoothice> totally wrong
19:19 <armabot> smoothice: ~Night Walker's Central~Shooting~ (66.71.249.140:4537) running 0.2.8-sty+ct_alpha20090315 unix dedicated, url: Nightwalkers.info, Description: “The new shooting server from ~NW! Have fun!“, Players (0/8):
19:19 <smoothice> oh
19:19 <smoothice> k
19:19 <ivantis2> shut up! i cant read it when you keep scrolling it
19:20 <sinewave> be there in a minute...
19:21 <ivantis2> smoothice, you gonna be playing? AIs for CTF suck
19:21 <smoothice> yep
19:22 <ivantis2> oh wrong server
19:22 <smoothice> ...
19:22 <ivantis2> i went to the first one
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19:27 <dlh> #ls -g dlh@generalconsumption.org
19:27 <armabot> dlh: free kill has last been seen on Fortress Café 39 minutes ago.
19:27 <smoothice> #ls -g smoothice@forums
19:28 <armabot> smoothice: +|SmOoThice~NW seems to be on  ~Night Walker's Central~Shooting~ right now.
19:28 <epsy> #ls -g time
19:28 <epsy> #ls -g epsy@x/member
19:28 <epsy> #ls -g epsy@x
19:28 <epsy> #ls -g epsy@ct
19:28 <epsy> #ls -g epsy@forums
19:28 <smoothice> #echo @echo hi
19:28 <epsy> did I forget anything?
19:28 <epsy> smoothice, wont work
19:28 <dlh> #ls epsy
19:29 <epsy> it's busy on the first one :P
19:29 <epsy> #ping
19:29 <epsy> or I did crash it
19:29 <smoothice> #echo hi
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19:30 <epsy> @ls epsy@x/member
19:30 <smoothice> nice going
19:30 <epsy> @ls -g epsy@x/member
19:30 <epsy> @ping
19:30 <epsy> or it's just a netsplit
19:30 <dlh> how many short-name authorities are there?
19:30 <epsy> ask guru3
19:30 <smoothice> how can I get a short-name authorityh?
19:31 <dlh> I don't understand why we have them
19:31 <epsy> @g short authority armagetronad
19:31 <epsy> it's shorter :D
19:31 <MrBougo> fail
19:32 <epsy> smoothice, google for yourself
19:32 <epsy> actually, mine went boom
19:33 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
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19:33 <epsy> omg what did you do smoothice
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19:33 <armabot> epsy: I haven't seen anyone matching “time” yet, sorry.
19:33 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
19:33 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
19:33 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
19:33 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
19:33 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
19:33 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
19:33 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
19:33 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
19:34 <armabot> epsy: epsy¦×¦ has last been seen on Fortress Café 4 hours 11 minutes ago.
19:34 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
19:34 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
19:34 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
19:34 <smoothice> lol
19:34 <epsy> @admin ignore *smoothice*!*@*
19:34 <luke-jr> #kick smoothice don't do that
19:34 <epsy> @owner ignore *smoothice*!*@*
19:34 <dlh> hehe: http://x.authentication.armagetronad.net/sacrifice.php
19:34 <smoothice> dammit!
19:34 <smoothice> haha
19:34 <armabot> epsy: I haven't seen anyone matching “epsy@x” yet, sorry.
19:34 <smoothice> armabot isnt op
19:34 <smoothice> FAIL!
19:34 <smoothice> luke-jr: FAIL!
19:34 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
19:34 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
19:34 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
19:34 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
19:34 <smoothice> lol
19:34 <teabot> smoothice: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Advanced_Chat_Features - Advanced Chat Features - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
19:34 <teabot> smoothice: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Advanced_Chat_Features - Advanced Chat Features - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
19:34 <armabot> epsy: epsy¦×¦ has last been seen on Fortress Café 9 days 3 hours 12 minutes ago.
19:34 <smoothice> thanks man!
19:34 <smoothice> lol
19:34 <teabot> smoothice: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Advanced_Chat_Features - Advanced Chat Features - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
19:34 <luke-jr> Lucifer: assistance plz
19:34 <teabot> smoothice: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Advanced_Chat_Features - Advanced Chat Features - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
19:34 <teabot> smoothice: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Advanced_Chat_Features - Advanced Chat Features - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
19:34 <armabot> epsy: I haven't seen anyone matching “epsy@forums” yet, sorry.
19:34 <smoothice> epsy: quit teabot
19:34 <teabot> smoothice: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Advanced_Chat_Features - Advanced Chat Features - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
19:34 <epsy> @part
19:34 <teabot> smoothice: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Advanced_Chat_Features - Advanced Chat Features - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
19:35 <smoothice> control c!
19:35 <teabot> smoothice: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Advanced_Chat_Features - Advanced Chat Features - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
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19:35 <smoothice> dammit..
19:35 <smoothice> yay
19:35 <armabot> @echo hi
19:35 <smoothice> hi
19:35 <smoothice> wow
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19:35 <smoothice> .hi
19:35 <armabot> pong
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19:35 <luke-jr> z-manuel: wrtlprnft guru3
19:35 <smoothice> wtf?
19:35 <armabot> dlh: timed out
19:35 <epsy> @ignore add *smoothice*!*@*
19:36 <dlh> thanks armabot
19:36 <armabot> hi
19:36 <madmax> -_-
19:36 <z-manuel> what?
19:36 <luke-jr> z-manuel: smoothice needs a lesson
19:36 -!- z-manuel is now known as z-man
19:36 <teabot> epsy: Error: The command "ignore add" is available in the Admin and Channel plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "ignore add".
19:36 <epsy> @admin ignore add *smoothice*!*@*
19:36 <z-man> I'm not an admin.
19:36 <teabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
19:36 <luke-jr> z-man: Chanserv lists you as +o
19:36 <luke-jr> z-man: /msg chanserv op #armagetron
19:37 <luke-jr> /mode #armagetron +o armabot
19:37 <z-man> I don't care what Chanserv says :)
19:37 <armabot> luke-jr: Error: I need to be opped to kick someone.
19:37 <epsy> #ping
19:37 <luke-jr> z-man: you're the only ChanServ-op around atm, I think
19:37 <luke-jr> plz op armabot
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19:38 <smoothice> guru3 is
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19:38 <luke-jr> ………..
19:38 <ivantis2> ..
19:38 <luke-jr> so much for opping armabot
19:38 <z-man> luke-jr: I don't want to bother learning how to admin IRC.
19:38 <ivantis2> yeah she left
19:38 -!- armabot [n=armabot@83.243.117.49.dynamic.cablesurf.de] has joined #armagetron
19:38 <luke-jr> z-man: meh, I just told you the two commands. :/
19:38 <luke-jr> #ping
19:39 <epsy> #channel ignore *smoothice*!*@*
19:39 <smoothice> :O
19:39 <luke-jr> Combined into one cmd: /msg chanserv op #armagetron armabot
19:39 <smoothice> are you serious?
19:39 <smoothice> I'll be forced to bring in armastybot then
19:39 <armabot> pong
19:39 <luke-jr> smoothice: good thing we have bans
19:39 <armabot> epsy: Error: 'supybot.ignore' is not a valid configuration variable.
19:39 <smoothice> fail
19:40 <epsy> #channel ignore add *smoothice*!*@*
19:40 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
19:40 <smoothice> @say hi
19:40 <smoothice> #say hi
19:40 <smoothice> ]say #ls +|SmOoThice~NW
19:40 <ljrbot> smoothice: Error: "say" is not a valid command.
19:40 <smoothice> ]echo #ls +|SmOoThice~NW
19:40 <ljrbot> #ls +|SmOoThice~NW
19:40 <luke-jr> ]admin ignore add smoothice
19:40 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
19:40 <smoothice> ...
19:41 <armabot> ljrbot: +|SmOoThice~NW has last been seen on SPACE-LAB Shooting! 4 minutes ago.
19:41 <ljrbot> armabot: Error: "+|SmOoThice~NW" is not a valid command.
19:41 <smoothice> wewt
19:41 <epsy> #channel ignore *bot*!*@*
19:41 <armabot> epsy: Error: 'supybot.ignore' is not a valid configuration variable.
19:41 <epsy> #channel ignore add *bot*!*@*
19:41 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
19:41 <epsy> ]echo #ping
19:41 <ljrbot> #ping
19:41 -!- smoothice is now known as smooth
19:41 <smooth> #echo hi
19:41 <luke-jr> z-man: please
19:41 <epsy> you are heading for a ban
19:42 <smooth> fine
19:42 <epsy> so don't do it
19:42 -!- smooth is now known as smoothice
19:42 <armabot> hi
19:42 <ivantis2> m]]]\
19:42 <smoothice> go head
19:42 <epsy> smoothice, done?
19:42 <smoothice> ban me
19:42 <smoothice> :D
19:42 <ivantis2> ?";no you do not want to br bnned. it is very boring without this place to be able to go to
19:43 <smoothice> #armagetron-0.3-sty
19:43 <luke-jr> epsy: have tronner kickban smoothice from 0.3-sty ;D
19:44 <epsy> uhm, how?
19:44 <luke-jr> epsy: he's op there
19:44 <epsy> and what do I do with that?
19:44 <luke-jr> don't you have tronner admin?
19:44 <epsy> no
19:44 <luke-jr> aw
19:44 <ivantis2> not another place i am banned from!
19:44 <smoothice> yep
19:44 <smoothice> that's right
19:44 <luke-jr> ]help kban
19:44 <ljrbot> luke-jr: (kban [<channel>] [--{exact,nick,user,host}] <nick> [<seconds>] [<reason>]) -- If you have the #channel,op capability, this will kickban <nick> for as many seconds as you specify, or else (if you specify 0 seconds or don't specify a number of seconds) it will ban the person indefinitely. --exact bans only the exact hostmask; --nick bans just the nick; --user bans just the user, and (1 more message)
19:45 <luke-jr> i c
19:45 <luke-jr> why the heck supybot devs can't name it 'kickban' or 'ban' is beyond me ;/
19:45 <epsy> I don't know
19:45 <luke-jr> ]alias add kickban kban
19:45 <epsy> @help kickban
19:45 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
19:45 <luke-jr> ]alias add ban kban
19:45 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
19:45 <teabot> epsy: (kickban <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "kban $*".
19:45 <luke-jr> ]lock ban
19:45 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
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19:45 <luke-jr> ]lock kickban
19:45 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
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20:02 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Blaze/Race/Fire_Palace-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Blaze
20:02 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Blaze/ID/Twigs-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Blaze
20:03 <akira_arma> #tea
20:03 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (11/32): -»|hoop, 1200, @<_^)JOeW(^_>@, CT_emphasis, doink, Hype, ikono, killerbees19 (killerbees19@forums), orly?, Player 1, ¦×¦ PlayerNuby
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20:11 <smoothice> PinkTomato: :D
20:11 <smoothice> PinkTomato: http://smootharma.ath.cx/serverstatus.php
20:23 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Blaze/Race/Holiday-1.0.3.aamap.xml: Resource by Blaze
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22:12 <akira_arma> dlh:
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22:44 <armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-old-glancing] r760 Merge from trunk...
22:49 <akira_arma> could anyone help me building tron on windows? :)
22:49 <akira_arma> codeblocks gives me this: Armagetron Advanced - Win32 Debug" uses an invalid compiler. Probably the toolchain path within the compiler options is not setup correctly?
22:50 <z-man> nope, never had that.
22:50 <akira_arma> ah
22:50 <akira_arma> seems i nreally need stupid mingw
22:51 <epsy> you kinda need a compiler to compile anything
22:51 <akira_arma> but they have a 600MB installer :(
22:51 <akira_arma> yea i thought codeblocks would come with compilers...
22:51 <epsy> there's an installer with compilers included afaik
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22:52 <akira_arma> true
22:53 <akira_arma> i got the wrong one :(
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23:12 <akira_arma> ok i built it.. but  it didnt build an .exe file
23:15 <dlh> Following this step? http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Windows_Development#Building_Armagetron_Advanced
23:16 <akira_arma> ah oops forgot to checkout some other stuff
23:16 <akira_arma> :/
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23:18 <akira_arma> ok i am just confused over one thing
23:18 <akira_arma> I have the directories from your build dlh
23:19 <akira_arma> but i also need them from trunk
23:19 <akira_arma> where do i put them? :)
23:19 <akira_arma> <- newb!
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23:24 <akira_arma> nvm
23:27 <akira_arma> i had the wrong directory structure
23:27 <akira_arma> it seems..
23:35 <akira_arma> argh
23:35 <akira_arma> why doesn't it build the .exe :(
23:36 <akira_arma> i followed the instructions!
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23:38 <akira_arma> ah
23:38 <dlh> akira_arma: the armagetronad-old-glancing directory is the source folder for the game.
23:38 <akira_arma> f:/Program Files/CodeBlocks/MinGW/bin/../lib/gcc/mingw32/3.4.5/../../../../include/ctype.h:169: error: ambiguates old declaration `int isblank(int)'
23:38 <dlh> so I guess for windows building it should be called armagetronad
23:38 <dlh> i'm not sure if it matters
23:38 <akira_arma> compiler gives me an error about 1 line
23:38 <dlh> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Windows_Development#Troubleshooting
23:39 <akira_arma> ah
23:39 <akira_arma> being able to read is sure a good thing :/
23:44 <Your_mom_arma> #ping
23:44 <armabot> pong
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23:46 <akira_arma> now it gives me tons of errors in network authentication xD
23:47 <akira_arma> authetification*
23:47 <dlh> Use http://rafb.net/paste/ and paste the errors there
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00:12  * z-man hates cross references in electronic TV guides
00:13 <z-man> throw automatic recording timers off every time
00:13 <z-man> "by the same director who also made film X with Michael Caine"
00:51 <akira_arma> bah
00:52 <akira_arma> BAH
00:54 <luke-jr> akira_arma: BAH U
00:54 <akira_arma> i go insane
00:54 <akira_arma> i cant build tron :(
00:54 <luke-jr> use Linux
00:54 <akira_arma> compiler gives me stupid errors which i dont understand
00:54 <luke-jr> ofc?
00:54 <akira_arma> tho i did it all as outlined in the documentation
00:55 <luke-jr> we have documentation?
00:55 <akira_arma> well
00:55 <luke-jr> lulz XD
00:55 <akira_arma> some readme.txt and the wiki
00:55 <luke-jr> akira_arma: here's a hint:
00:55 <luke-jr> nobody has built Armagetron on Windows for about 2 months now
00:56 <akira_arma> can you give me the protobuf compiler?
00:56 <akira_arma> ;)
00:56 <akira_arma> somehow it seems to be missing
00:56 <akira_arma> umm whatever :/
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00:58 <akira_arma> also the compiling script refers to some file which doesnt exist
01:02 <luke-jr> akira_arma: nobody has ever compiled Armagetron with protobuf on Windows
01:03 <akira_arma> http://rafb.net/p/DHPrls40.html
01:05 <akira_arma> oops wrong one
01:05 <akira_arma> http://rafb.net/p/djTpMU92.html
01:05 <akira_arma> this
01:08 <dlh> The missing file, nAuthentication.pb.h, is generated from nAuthentication.proto by protoc
01:09 <dlh> You need to run win32/protobuf.bat
01:10 <dlh> "Check you've got python installed and set the path to the executable inside python.bat. Same for the protobuf compiler protoc" <- I guess you have to manually edit files to build for windows
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01:13 <luke-jr> why is code.google.com down? :/
01:15 <z-man> luke-jr: stop talking about things you don't know about :)
01:15 <luke-jr> z-man: ?
01:15 <z-man> I did build with protobuf on Windows.
01:15 <luke-jr> why isn't it on aabeta? -.-
01:15 <z-man> Because I didn't upload it?
01:15 <luke-jr> meh
01:15 <z-man> It was just a build to see that compilation still works.
01:15 <luke-jr> so everyone waiting for a win32 protobuf client are waiting why? XD
01:16 <z-man> Why would they want one?
01:16 <luke-jr> to play on trunk servers using Zones v2?
01:16 <z-man> What's the immediate, right now benefit for them?
01:16 <z-man> They can use 0.2.8.x for that :)
01:16 <luke-jr> 0.2.8 won't do polygon shapes
01:17 <z-man> There also is no Linux build for protobuf up there.
01:17 <luke-jr> there's never Linux alphas
01:17 <z-man> Why should we treat Windows differently?
01:17 <luke-jr> :p
01:17  * luke-jr wonders whatever happened ot the buildbot
01:17 <z-man> And the only builds directly from svn/bzr were those wrtl made.
01:18 <luke-jr> hum
01:18 <luke-jr> well, akira_arma sparked me to cross-compile a win32 build :p
01:18 <z-man> anyway, akira_arma: you need the latest winlibs from svn/bzr. The zip archive won't do.
01:18 <z-man> good luck with that.
01:19 <luke-jr> biggest problem so far is protobuf being treated differently in winlibs
01:19 <luke-jr> and protobuf being buggy for cross-compiling itself :x
01:19 <z-man> Yeah, they only have visual studio project files.
01:20 <luke-jr> I don't mean just Windows cross compiling
01:20 <luke-jr> it wouldn't work x86->MIPS either
01:40 <noob13> #channelstats
01:40 <armabot> noob13: On #armagetron there have been 858990 messages, containing 30188110 characters, 5308880 words, 49445 smileys, and 25612 frowns; 20187 of those messages were ACTIONs.  There have been 50091 joins, 3913 parts, 45134 quits, 340 kicks, 1217 mode changes, and 73 topic changes.
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01:47 <armabot> armacommits: [trunk-winlibs-work] r31 protobuf binaries || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r897 Changed anaglyph stereo settings to be tSettingItems....
01:51 <akira_arma> i have the latest winlibs..
01:51 <akira_arma> at least i used svn to get them
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01:53 <luke-jr> uh
01:54 <luke-jr> wt_f_ is tRing? O.o
02:00 <Lucifer> luke-jr: I stopped running the buildbot when I switched to google for my mail hosting becuase I couldn't get the buildbot to send outgoing emails
02:00 <luke-jr> O.o
02:00 <Lucifer> I'm taking a crack at fixing that right now, so maybe I"ll have another buildmaster running soon ;)
02:00 <luke-jr> Lucifer: Windows included, by any chance? ;)
02:01 <Lucifer> I'm going to run a build master, people need to volunteer buildslaves
02:01 <luke-jr> i c
02:02 <Lucifer> I might setup a ubuntu 8.10 buildslave
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02:14 <dlh> All the windows binary dependencies are kept in source control? I thought we just kept the source code to build the stuff in there...
02:24 <Lucifer> no, we keep the binaries, it's easier that way
02:24 <dlh> but in source control? Seems like bloat. Just zip them up and release them.
02:29 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9157 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/eCamera.cpp): Daniel Lee Harple: Changed anaglyph stereo settings to be tSettingItems.
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02:33 <zurd> good evening
02:33 <zurd> #q
02:33 <armabot> zurd: Quote #82: "<TaZ> Ady-Lucifer: Nah, you're nicer than lucifer though" (added by K-Yo at 04:46 PM, December 13, 2008)
02:35 <luke-jr> hi zurd
02:35 <luke-jr> did you get a virus scan done?
02:35 <zurd> for that computer?
02:35 <luke-jr> yeah
02:36 <zurd> yeah, that comp is just whacked...im on MY computer now
02:36 <luke-jr> lol
02:36 <luke-jr> works better? ☺
02:36 <zurd> but that computer is always being scaned
02:36 <zurd> MUCH BETTER
02:36 <luke-jr> great
02:36 <zurd> anyways, how would i install an armaserver via ssh
02:37 <zurd> and what does the armapanal do any way
02:38 <zurd> brb/afk
02:40 <ivantis2> how to install via ssh?
02:40 <ivantis2> i did all my installations and setup over ssh
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02:45 <Lucifer> armabuilder: help
02:45 <armabuilder> Get help on what? (try 'help <foo>', or 'commands' for a command list)
02:46 <Lucifer> armabuilder: commands
02:46 <armabuilder> buildbot commands: commands, dance, destroy, excited, force, hello, help, join, last, leave, list, notify, source, status, stop, version, watch
02:46 <Lucifer> armabuilder: dance
02:46 <armabuilder> 0-<
02:46 <armabuilder> 0-/
02:46 <armabuilder> 0-\
02:46 <Lucifer> armabuilder: last
02:46 <armabuilder> last build [linux-client]: (no builds run since last restart)
02:46 <armabuilder> last build [linux-server]: (no builds run since last restart)
02:46 <Lucifer> well, I guess now I need to get a slave running so I can see if it works :)
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02:49 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
02:49 <armabuilder> linux-client: offline
02:49 <armabuilder> linux-server: offline
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02:50 <ivantis2> what is this armabuilder?
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02:50 <ivantis2> buildbot? whats it for?
02:51 <luke-jr> Lucifer: btw, armabot needs ops=
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02:51 <ivantis2> luke-jr, arent you an op?
02:51 <ivantis2> yay! now we can play roulette
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02:52 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
02:52 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
02:52 <armabuilder> linux-server: idle
02:52 <Lucifer> armabuilder: commands
02:52 <armabuilder> buildbot commands: commands, dance, destroy, excited, force, hello, help, join, last, leave, list, notify, source, status, stop, version, watch
02:52 <Lucifer> armabuilder: help force
02:52 <armabuilder> Usage: force build <which> <reason> - Force a build
02:52 <Lucifer> armabuilder: force linux-server test
02:53 <armabuilder> try 'force build WHICH <REASON>'
02:53 <Lucifer> armabuilder: force build linux-server test
02:53 <armabuilder> build #0 forced
02:53 <armabuilder> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
02:53 <ivantis2> armabuilder, hello
02:53 <armabuilder> yes?
02:53 <ivantis2> hi
02:53 <Lucifer> ivantis2: don't play with this bot
02:53 <ivantis2> ok
02:56 <Lucifer> hmmm, why did it fail?
02:56 <Lucifer> armabuilder: commands
02:56 <armabuilder> buildbot commands: commands, dance, destroy, excited, force, hello, help, join, last, leave, list, notify, source, status, stop, version, watch
02:56 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
02:56 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
02:56 <armabuilder> linux-server: idle, last build 194 secs ago: failed svn
02:57 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
02:57 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
02:57 <armabuilder> linux-server: idle, last build 207 secs ago: failed svn
02:57 <Lucifer> armabuilder: excited
02:57 <armabuilder> What you say!
02:57 <Lucifer> armabuilder: last
02:57 <armabuilder> last build [linux-client]: (no builds run since last restart)
02:57 <armabuilder> last build [linux-server]: 222 secs ago: failed svn
02:57 <Lucifer> armabuilder: force build linux-server test
02:57 <armabuilder> build #1 forced
02:57 <armabuilder> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
02:57 <Lucifer> armabuilder: last
02:57 <armabuilder> last build [linux-client]: (no builds run since last restart)
02:57 <armabuilder> last build [linux-server]: 5 secs ago: failed svn
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03:01 <Lucifer> armabuilder: last
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03:03 <Lucifer> armabuilder: last
03:03 <armabuilder> last build [linux-client]: (no builds run since last restart)
03:03 <armabuilder> last build [linux-server]: 360 secs ago: failed svn
03:03 <Lucifer> armabuilder: force build linux-server test
03:03 <armabuilder> build #2 forced
03:03 <armabuilder> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
03:03 <Lucifer> armabuilder: last
03:03 <armabuilder> last build [linux-client]: (no builds run since last restart)
03:03 <armabuilder> last build [linux-server]: 4 secs ago: exception bzr
03:03 <Lucifer> armabuilder: last
03:03 <armabuilder> last build [linux-client]: (no builds run since last restart)
03:03 <armabuilder> last build [linux-server]: 9 secs ago: exception bzr
03:04 <smoothice> #ubuntu
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03:05 <Lucifer> armabuilder: force build linux-server test
03:05 <armabuilder> build #3 forced
03:05 <armabuilder> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
03:05 <Lucifer> armabuilder: last
03:05 <armabuilder> last build [linux-client]: (no builds run since last restart)
03:05 <armabuilder> last build [linux-server]: 4 secs ago: exception bzr
03:05 <Lucifer> grrr
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03:06 <Lucifer> what a pain in the ass
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03:06 <Lucifer> armabuilder: force build linux-server test
03:06 <armabuilder> sorry, I can't force a build: all slaves are offline
03:06 <Lucifer> armabuilder: force build linux-server test
03:06 <armabuilder> build #4 forced
03:06 <armabuilder> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
03:06 <Lucifer> armabuilder: last
03:06 <armabuilder> last build [linux-client]: (no builds run since last restart)
03:06 <armabuilder> last build [linux-server]: 64 secs ago: exception bzr
03:06 <Lucifer> armabuilder: last
03:06 <armabuilder> last build [linux-client]: (no builds run since last restart)
03:06 <armabuilder> last build [linux-server]: 70 secs ago: exception bzr
03:06 <Lucifer> armabuilder: last
03:06 <armabuilder> last build [linux-client]: (no builds run since last restart)
03:06 <armabuilder> last build [linux-server]: 76 secs ago: exception bzr
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03:07 <Lucifer> armabuilder: force build linux-server test
03:07 <armabuilder> build #4 forced
03:07 <armabuilder> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
03:07 <Lucifer> armabuilder: last
03:07 <armabuilder> last build [linux-client]: (no builds run since last restart)
03:07 <armabuilder> last build [linux-server]: 121 secs ago: exception bzr
03:07 <Lucifer> armabuilder: last
03:07 <armabuilder> last build [linux-client]: (no builds run since last restart)
03:07 <armabuilder> last build [linux-server]: 125 secs ago: exception bzr
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03:08 <Lucifer> armabuilder: force build linux-server test
03:08 <armabuilder> sorry, I can't force a build: all slaves are offline
03:08 <Lucifer> fuck you
03:08 <Lucifer> armabuilder: force build linux-server test
03:08 <armabuilder> build #4 forced
03:08 <armabuilder> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
03:08 <Lucifer> armabuilder: last
03:08 <armabuilder> last build [linux-client]: (no builds run since last restart)
03:08 <armabuilder> last build [linux-server]: 3 secs ago: failed bzr
03:09 <Lucifer> heh
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03:11 <Lucifer> armabuilder: last
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03:11 <Lucifer> armabuilder: force build linux-server test
03:11 <armabuilder> sorry, I can't force a build: all slaves are offline
03:11 <Lucifer> armabuilder: force build linux-server test
03:11 <armabuilder> build #5 forced
03:11 <armabuilder> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
03:11 <Lucifer> armabuilder: last
03:11 <armabuilder> last build [linux-client]: (no builds run since last restart)
03:11 <armabuilder> last build [linux-server]: 158 secs ago: failed bzr
03:11 <Lucifer> armabuilder: last
03:11 <armabuilder> last build [linux-client]: (no builds run since last restart)
03:11 <armabuilder> last build [linux-server]: 161 secs ago: failed bzr
03:12 <Lucifer> armabuilder: last
03:12 <armabuilder> last build [linux-client]: (no builds run since last restart)
03:12 <armabuilder> last build [linux-server]: 199 secs ago: failed bzr
03:12 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
03:12 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
03:12 <armabuilder> linux-server: building(checkout)
03:12 <Lucifer> well, I guess I can only wait, now
03:16 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
03:16 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
03:16 <armabuilder> linux-server: idle, last build 39 secs ago: failed Configure
03:16 <Lucifer> armabuilder: force build linux-server test
03:16 <armabuilder> build #6 forced
03:16 <armabuilder> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
03:16 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
03:16 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
03:16 <armabuilder> linux-server: idle, last build 4 secs ago: failed bzr
03:16 <Lucifer> heh
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03:22 <Lucifer> armabuilder: force build linux-server test
03:22 <armabuilder> build #7 forced
03:22 <armabuilder> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
03:22 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9158 /armagetronad/trunk/winlibs/ (12 files in 5 dirs): Luke Dashjr: protobuf binaries
03:23 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
03:23 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
03:23 <armabuilder> linux-server: building(checkout)
03:23 <luke-jr> :o
03:23 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
03:23 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
03:23 <armabuilder> linux-server: building(checkout)
03:23 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
03:23 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
03:23 <armabuilder> linux-server: building(checkout)
03:23  * Lucifer thinks he should go cook dinner
03:23 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
03:23 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
03:23 <armabuilder> linux-server: building(checkout)
03:24 <luke-jr> slow linux-server
03:24 <luke-jr> my VPS built 0.2.8 in under a minute
03:24 <luke-jr> Lucifer: want a VPS for this?
03:32 <Lucifer> maybe for buildslaves?
03:32 <Lucifer> if you really want to setup a buildbot, knock yourself out :)
03:33 <Lucifer> there's a svn module with all the config I used last time in it, I'm adapting it to bzr right now
03:33 <Lucifer> armabuilder: force build linux-server test
03:33 <armabuilder> build #8 forced
03:33 <armabuilder> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
03:33 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
03:33 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
03:33 <armabuilder> linux-server: idle, last build 3 secs ago: failed bzr
03:33 <Lucifer> why does it keep failing the second time?  :(
03:41 <luke-jr> O.o
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03:42 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
03:42 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
03:42 <armabuilder> linux-server: idle, last build 68 secs ago: failed bzr
03:42 <Lucifer> armabuilder: force build linux-server test
03:42 <armabuilder> build #10 forced
03:42 <armabuilder> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
03:42 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
03:42 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
03:42 <armabuilder> linux-server: building(updating)
03:42 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
03:42 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
03:42 <armabuilder> linux-server: building(updating)
03:42 <zurd> armabuilder: status
03:42 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
03:42 <armabuilder> linux-server: building(updating)
03:42 <zurd> xD
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03:43 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
03:43 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
03:43 <armabuilder> linux-server: building(updating)
03:44 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
03:44 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
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03:46 <Lucifer> armabuilder: force build linux-server test
03:46 <armabuilder> build #11 forced
03:46 <armabuilder> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
03:46 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
03:46 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
03:46 <armabuilder> linux-server: building(updating)
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04:01 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
04:01 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
04:01 <armabuilder> linux-server: idle, last build 859 secs ago: failed Configure
04:02 <Lucifer> armabuilder: force build linux-server test
04:02 <armabuilder> build #12 forced
04:02 <armabuilder> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
04:02 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
04:02 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
04:02 <armabuilder> linux-server: building(updating)
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04:11 <SuPeRTbbl> hi
04:11 <ivantis2> hai!
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04:15 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
04:15 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
04:15 <armabuilder> linux-server: idle, last build 760 secs ago: failed Configure
04:16 <Lucifer> er, oops
04:17 <Lucifer> armabuilder: force build linux-server test
04:17 <armabuilder> build #13 forced
04:17 <armabuilder> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
04:17 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
04:17 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
04:17 <armabuilder> linux-server: building(bootstrapping)
04:17 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
04:17 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
04:17 <armabuilder> linux-server: building(bootstrapping)
04:17 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
04:17 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
04:17 <armabuilder> linux-server: building(bootstrapping)
04:17 <smoothice> armabuilder: status
04:17 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
04:17 <armabuilder> linux-server: building(bootstrapping)
04:18 <smoothice> Lucifer: what does armabuilder do?
04:18 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
04:18 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
04:18 <armabuilder> linux-server: building(compiling)
04:18 <Lucifer> hmmm, armabuilder is an irc bot that gives access to a buildbot
04:18 <Lucifer> I'm setting up a buildbot for the project again ;)
04:19 <Lucifer> hopefully this time it'll be able to email people about the build
04:19 <smoothice> Cool
04:19 <Lucifer> I'll disable armabuilder after I'm sure the buildbot works, because armabuilder has no way to control access, and people here tend to randomly trigger builds
04:20 <smoothice> yeah
04:22 <smoothice> Lucifer: What does armabuilder run on? Supybot?
04:22 <Lucifer> no, it's part of the buildbot program
04:22 <smoothice> oh
04:22 <smoothice> k
04:25 <smoothice> ct|kyle: http://smootharma.ath.cx/?page_id=11
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04:35 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
04:35 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
04:35 <armabuilder> linux-server: building
04:38 <Lucifer> http://waterfall.davefancella.com/
04:38 <Lucifer> armabuilder: force build linux-server test
04:38 <armabuilder> build forced [ETA 18m40s]
04:38 <armabuilder> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
04:39 <Lucifer> luke-jr: yacc is part of bison, right?
04:39 <luke-jr> no
04:39 <luke-jr> yacc is to bison what C is to C++
04:39 <luke-jr> we require bison
04:40 <Lucifer> so if I install bison, it'll work?  ;)
04:40 <luke-jr> yes
04:40 <Lucifer> http://waterfall.davefancella.com/builders/linux-server/builds/13/steps/Compile/logs/stdio
04:40 <luke-jr> just clarifying that if you install yacc, it won't
04:40 <Lucifer> right, I just installed bison
04:41 <Lucifer> making sure I didn't need to install something else to get the yacc stuff to work
04:41 <luke-jr> good
04:41 <luke-jr> you win a prize
04:41 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
04:41 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
04:41 <armabuilder> linux-server: building(compiling) [ETA 15m15s]
04:41 <Lucifer> haven't tried to build the client yet, heh
04:43 <Lucifer> wow, I have miscellanous sore muscles all over again
04:46 <Lucifer> armabuilder: force build linux-client test
04:46 <armabuilder> build #0 forced
04:46 <armabuilder> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
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04:51 <luke-jr> armabuilder: status
04:51 <armabuilder> linux-client: building
04:51 <armabuilder> linux-server: building(compiling) [ETA 14m01s]
04:51 <luke-jr> ETA is broken XD
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05:17 <joda_bot> #whoami
05:34 <Lucifer> eta is based on previous build attempts
05:34 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
05:34 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle, last build 2162 secs ago: failed bzr
05:34 <armabuilder> linux-server: idle, last build 2163 secs ago: failed Distcheck
05:34 <Lucifer> armabuilder: commands
05:34 <armabuilder> buildbot commands: commands, dance, destroy, excited, force, hello, help, join, last, leave, list, notify, source, status, stop, version, watch
05:34 <Lucifer> armabuilder: help source
05:35 <armabuilder> No usage info for 'source'
05:35 <Lucifer> armabuilder: source
05:35 <armabuilder> My source can be found at http://buildbot.net/
05:35 <Lucifer> armabuilder: help status
05:35 <armabuilder> Usage: status [<which>] - List status of a builder (or all builders)
05:42 <Lucifer> armabuilder: force build linux-client test
05:42 <armabuilder> build #1 forced
05:42 <armabuilder> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
05:43 <Lucifer> armabuilder: notify 1
05:43 <armabuilder> try 'notify on|off <EVENT>'
05:43 <Lucifer> armabuilder: notify on 1
05:43 <armabuilder> try 'notify on|off <EVENT>'
05:43 <luke-jr> O.o
05:43 <Lucifer> armabuilder: help notify
05:43 <armabuilder> Usage: notify on|off|list [<EVENT>] ... - Notify me about build events.  event should be one or more of: 'started', 'finished', 'failed', 'success', 'exception', 'successToFailed', 'failedToSuccess'
05:43 <Lucifer> armabuilder: notify on finished
05:43 <armabuilder> The following events are being notified: ['finished']
05:45 <Lucifer> #seen BabyBug
05:45 <@armabot> Lucifer: BabyBug was last seen in #armagetron 2 days, 17 hours, and 35 seconds ago: <BabyBug> ...
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06:28 <armabuilder> build #1 of linux-client is complete: Failure [failed Distcheck Installcheck]  Build details are at http://waterfall.davefancella.com/builders/linux-client/builds/1
06:28 <luke-jr> :o
06:29 <luke-jr>         Couldn't initialize SDL: DirectFBCreate: Initialization error!
06:29 <luke-jr> lulz
06:29 <luke-jr> Why so serious, armabuilder?
06:32 <Lucifer> didn't realize it actually tried to run the program for installcheck
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06:52 <joda_bot> Lucifer: uhm, I did not really believe you'd be all for DRM ... just came to my mind like "Does Lucifer talk in favor of the general copyright?" ... but I think you perspective is more in line with Creative Commons than 70 years copyright acts ?
06:53 <Lucifer> yeah, I'm more in line with creative commons
06:55 <joda_bot> you*r*
06:56 <joda_bot> Lucifer: did you just start working on armabuilder again or was it a background project all the time ?
06:56 <Lucifer> background project all the time?
06:57 <luke-jr> eg, you've been working on it all year and it just started workign on IRC again
06:59 <joda_bot> luke-jr: yeah that pinpoints my question / idea
06:59 <joda_bot> Lucifer: just found your post
06:59 <joda_bot> Lucifer: volunteer for a windows build slave = ?
06:59 <Lucifer> someone who wants to run a buildslave for windows?
07:00 <joda_bot> Is it just the code, or do you need a machine on which the windows build is compiled ?
07:00 <Lucifer> machine for building
07:00 <Lucifer> automated builds, that is ;)
07:00 <Lucifer> I'm about to update the buildslave stuff to make it easier to setup and hopefully admin a buildslave
07:00 <joda_bot> hm, ok, doesn't sourceforge provide machines for that ?
07:01 <joda_bot> Lucifer: what dependices are required to run a windows buildslave
07:01 <joda_bot> hm, and also I guess it should be up 24/7 ?
07:01 <Lucifer> yeah, it should be up 24/7 if possible, but not required
07:01 <Lucifer> just up often enough that it can actually build
07:01 <Lucifer> you need twisted, python, and buildbot
07:02 <Lucifer> there are instructions on the buildbot site for setting up a buildslave to run as a service
07:02 <joda_bot> the other stuff is downloaded by default ?
07:02 <joda_bot> e.g. source code, distcc / gcc etc. win32 library dependices mingw ?
07:03 <joda_bot> "by default" -> automatically
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07:08 <Lucifer> hmmm, I don't quite remember how I set it up when I set it up before for windows
07:09 <joda_bot> Lucifer: but you had a working win32 builder before ?
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07:09 <Lucifer> yeah, but it was awhile ago
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07:10 <joda_bot> Lucifer: do you have the ability to split forum posts ?
07:11 <Lucifer> I don't
07:11 <joda_bot> This might need a split, I guess your post is the best cut. Do you agree ?
07:11 <joda_bot> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=204810#204810
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07:12 <joda_bot> hm, perhaps we should put z-man's approach in the wiki , if we have a consenus on that
07:12 <joda_bot> ?
07:12 <Lucifer> it looks like the thread has more or less reached the end of useful discussion to me
07:14 <luke-jr> joda_bot: FWIW, trademark and copyright/DRM are entirely different things
07:18 <luke-jr> epsy: FWIW, I pronounce "…" as "dot dot dot"
07:19 <epsy> heh, didn't expect you to reply to that one
07:19 <epsy> so monkey talked
07:20 <noob13> he's alive?
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07:21  * Lucifer wonders if there's a way for him to use the ubuntu buildbot initscript to only restart a particular buildbot
07:22 <Lucifer> ok, yay, now it's easier to setup a buildslave :)
07:29 <Lucifer> luke-jr: do you want to provide a buildslave now?
07:30 <joda_bot> Lucifer: I've just added a useless post on that name thread then :-)
07:30 <Lucifer> hehe, ok
07:30 <joda_bot> haha
07:30 <joda_bot> there ist one player online ?
07:30 <joda_bot> only one player on all servers ?
07:31 <joda_bot> we really need a smart IRC bot that can be dispatched to a server to talk to lonely souls like that :D
07:31 <joda_bot> oh ah ok ...
07:31 <epsy> @onlineplayers
07:31 <teabot> epsy: This data is 29 seconds old; , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , !GH!su93r!GH!, -=}ID< Sin, /dev/null, 808 STATE, >){wB|The Good, AI team, Anarchy~X|BPT, (1 more message)
07:31 <joda_bot> there are alot more people online just had a strange refresh of the list
07:31 <epsy> >.>
07:31 <epsy> on the forums?
07:31 <joda_bot> the forums just cut of after FA Devils rings
07:32 <epsy> I noticed that, it does that all the time
07:32 <joda_bot> I guess
07:32 <joda_bot> epsy: yeah
07:32 <luke-jr> Lucifer: I don't want to set it up, if you mean that. :p
07:32 <epsy> like, each time it starts polling servers again, the list is cleared
07:32 <Lucifer> oh man, I just made it like really easy
07:32 <Lucifer> do a svn co, install the buildbot package for the OS
07:33 <Lucifer> configure it hwoever it is (ubuntu is easy to configure :)  )
07:33 <joda_bot> epsy: oh my, you want to tell me that script thing uses a site global variable for the list, which gets cleared if another user calls the site ?
07:33 <Lucifer> edit a config file
07:33 <joda_bot> Lucifer: Windows != Ubuntu :D (I guess it will get evil) :D
07:33 <epsy> joda_bot, hmm, I can't read into guru3's mind
07:34 <Lucifer> joda_bot: yes, it will get evil, it wasn't easy to do when I did it
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07:34 <Lucifer> you need to svn co the buildbot stuff and look in the buildmaster at the build steps for windows
07:34 <joda_bot> epsy: you can read other people's minds *envious*
07:34 <Lucifer> and make sure it actually looks like it should work ;)
07:34 <epsy> :)
07:35 <joda_bot> Lucifer: I'm willing to give it a try, but I can't really invest much time on windows builds until may I guess ...
07:35 <luke-jr> Lucifer: does it make packages too?
07:35 <joda_bot> Lucifer: and I probably can't run a 24/7 setup
07:35 <joda_bot> #whoami
07:36 <joda_bot> #help
07:36 <joda_bot> hehe
07:36 <joda_bot> it ignored me :D
07:37 <joda_bot> epsy: does armabot respond to you?
07:37 <luke-jr> #ping
07:37 <epsy> #ping
07:37 <epsy> :/
07:37 <luke-jr> ]insult armabot
07:37 <ljrbot> armabot sucks
07:38 <luke-jr> … that was pathetic
07:39 <joda_bot> ]spread love and hug entering people
07:39 <ljrbot> joda_bot: Error: "spread" is not a valid command.
07:39 <joda_bot> :-)
07:39 <@armabot> armacommits: [tools-buildbot-trunk-work] r4 Added public_html stuff for buildmaster || [tools-buildbot-trunk-work] r3 Removed info directory || [tools-buildbot-trunk-work] r2 Made changes to make configuring buildslaves easier
07:39 <epsy> lol?!
07:39 <joda_bot> hmmmm
07:39 <joda_bot> Lucifer: did you lock armabot down ?
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07:40 <luke-jr> lulz
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07:40 <luke-jr> #op
07:40 <luke-jr> aw
07:40 <luke-jr> it lost op
07:40 <luke-jr> too late
07:40 <luke-jr> armabot: ljrbot says you suck
07:40 <luke-jr> #ping
07:40 <luke-jr> yeah, epic fail
07:40 <joda_bot> }ping
07:41 <joda_bot> ]ping
07:41 <joda_bot> ...
07:41 <ljrbot> pong
07:41 <joda_bot> cool, I said "..." faster than ljrbot :-)
07:41 <armabot> luke-jr: Error: I need to be opped to op someone.
07:41 <luke-jr> …
07:41 <luke-jr> no you didn't.
07:41 <armabot> pong
07:41 <joda_bot> #ping
07:41 <joda_bot> eheh, ok, it's just not reading the channel
07:42 <epsy> lol
07:42 <luke-jr> sigh
07:42 <luke-jr> ]y start theme=twg
07:42 <ljrbot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "]yandere" to join.
07:42 <joda_bot> ]die :D
07:42 <ljrbot> joda_bot: Error: "die" is not a valid command.
07:42 <armabot> armagetronad: davidfancella * r9162 /tools/buildbot/trunk/buildmaster/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Moved around some html stuff
07:42 <armabot> armagetronad: davidfancella * r9163 /tools/buildbot/trunk/buildmaster/public_html/armagetronad.css: Removed css file
07:42 <luke-jr> joda_bot: epsy play!
07:43 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
07:43 <luke-jr> :<
07:43 <epsy> ]die
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07:44 <ljrbot> There aren't enough players to start the Worm Game. Try again later.
07:44 <luke-jr> :<
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07:49 <epsy> bb
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07:54 <joda_bot> luke-jr: what's that yandre game anyway ?
08:01 <Lucifer> luke-jr: what OS is your VPS?
08:02  * Lucifer needs to think some more about how to organize builders
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08:41 <@armabot> armacommits: [tools-buildbot-trunk-work] r6 Removed css file || [tools-buildbot-trunk-work] r5 Moved around some html stuff
08:49 <joda_bot> Lucifer: didn't z-man crosscompile the Win32 Builds on linux?
09:02 <z-man> No.
09:03 <z-man> Crosscompiling only gets you so far. You can't debug properly, for example.
09:11 <joda_bot> z-man: so you use the Code::Blocks IDE to build ?
09:11 <z-man> yes.
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10:07 <Lucifer> I think cross-compiling is only really useful for automated builds
10:07 <Lucifer> even then, it only gets you so far, because automated builds that are cross-compiled can't have test suites run on them
10:07 <joda_bot> Lucifer: what's the difference to the build bot ?
10:07 <Lucifer> more or less what you make of it?
10:08 <Lucifer> you have to tell the build bot how to build something, so it can have different instructions for cross-compiling than it has for others
10:08 <joda_bot> eh ok, what is your intended use for armabuilder ?
10:08 <joda_bot> unit tests ? or nightly builds ?
10:08 <Lucifer> heh, I just posted on the forums on that topic
10:08 <joda_bot> ah ok
10:08 <Lucifer> both tests and nightly builds
10:08 <Lucifer> there are other benefits you get though
10:09 <Lucifer> I was just wondering when the last time make distcheck was successful
10:09 <Lucifer> having a buildbot can help us determine that
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10:11 <Lucifer> armabuilder: help force
10:11 <armabuilder> Usage: force build <which> <reason> - Force a build
10:11 <Lucifer> armabuilder: commands
10:11 <armabuilder> buildbot commands: commands, dance, destroy, excited, force, hello, help, join, last, leave, list, notify, source, status, stop, version, watch
10:11 <Lucifer> armabuilder: help destroy
10:11 <armabuilder> No usage info for 'destroy'
10:11 <Lucifer> armabuilder: destroy
10:11  * armabuilder readies phasers
10:11 <Lucifer> too many toys in this thing
10:11 <Lucifer> armabuilder: version
10:11 <armabuilder> buildbot-0.7.9 at your service
10:12 <Lucifer> armabuilder: watch
10:12 <armabuilder> try 'watch <builder>'
10:13 <Lucifer> armabuilder: force build linux-server b0.2.8
10:13 <armabuilder> build #15 forced
10:13 <armabuilder> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
10:13 <Lucifer> grrr
10:13 <Lucifer> armabuilder: stop 15
10:13 <armabuilder> try 'stop build WHICH <REASON>'
10:14 <joda_bot> heh ?
10:14 <Lucifer> armabuilder: stop build 15
10:14 <armabuilder> try 'stop build WHICH <REASON>'
10:14 <joda_bot> lol
10:14 <Lucifer> armabuilder: stop build 15 oops
10:14 <armabuilder> no such builder '15'
10:14 <Lucifer> armabuilder: stop build linux-server oops
10:14 <armabuilder> build 15 interrupted
10:14  * joda_bot thinks his peer bot armabuilder is a rebel :D
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10:40 <joda_bot> fonkay: hehe :-) saw you browsing the forums :D
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13:34 <BabyBug> hellooooooooo
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14:08 <Vanhayes> #tea
14:08 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
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15:58 <nsh22> hey everyone
16:04 <guru3> 'los
16:04 <guru3> CRAZY MAN WOOO
16:05 <nsh22> ???
16:05 <guru3> just being random :)
16:05 <nsh22> randomness s gud :P
16:05 <guru3> i'm trying to define rainfall
16:05 <nsh22> why?
16:06 <guru3> dissertation work
16:06 <nsh22> oh
16:06 <nsh22> question, i take it i just use ftp to add stuff to a vps server?
16:07 <guru3> or sftp/scp
16:08 <nsh22> ok
16:08 <guru3> sftp is almost exactly like ftp but goes over ssh so it's secured
16:08 <guru3> scp is like cp but over ssh so it's secured
16:08 <nsh22> oh...
16:10 <nsh22> i dont have scp... i dontthink
16:10 <guru3> using linux?
16:10 <nsh22> no
16:10 <nsh22> i will be soon tho
16:11 <guru3> for the server?
16:11 <nsh22> its lukes
16:11 <nsh22> so i think so
16:11 <guru3> ok
16:11 <nsh22> it sais its debian 4.0
16:11 <guru3> google putty
16:11 <guru3> they have a windows scp client
16:11 <nsh22> oh ok
16:12 <nsh22> hmmmm, should i trust this, it says its host key is not cached...
16:12 <nsh22> meh i trust luke
16:13 <nsh22> ...
16:13 <nsh22> now i need to go get scp i guess...
16:14 <guru3> gl
16:14 <nsh22> lol tanx
16:14 <BabyBug> scp isn't something you need to install on the server btw
16:15 <nsh22> ok
16:15 <BabyBug> Just get the client for windows and it'll work
16:15 <nsh22> well right now m trying to ACCESS the server...
16:15 <nsh22> andi have no clue how...
16:16 <BabyBug> I've never used windows so i'm no help sorry.
16:16 <nsh22> i should pay luke now i guess
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16:21 <BabyBug> Lucifer, What's the point of a buildbot?
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16:24 <joda_bot> nsh22: try winscp it's more user friendly if you're not used to commandline tools
16:24 <nsh22> o0 first i need to get on the friggin vps lol
16:24 <joda_bot> nsh22: huh ?
16:25 <nsh22> i havent been able to access my vps yet
16:26 <joda_bot> BabyBug: the build bot tests the source code if we messed up programming by compiling and running it automatically. it won't find all errors but forces developers to pay attention because it can show/detect some simple mistakes early
16:26 <joda_bot> nsh22: hm, if you've got an account and a password, you can directly access the vps with winscp
16:26 <joda_bot> it's just like a ftp client using ssh
16:26 <nsh22> ok
16:27 <joda_bot> and it has a gui :D
16:27 <nsh22> well i tried using my ftp client with ssh/sftp
16:27 <nsh22> and it didnt work so...
16:27 <joda_bot> nsh22: http://winscp.net/eng/docs/screenshots
16:27 <joda_bot> nsh22: you need the correct IP / hostname of your server :-)
16:28 <nsh22> i have it...
16:28 <joda_bot> +account and password
16:30 <joda_bot> nsh22: if you prefer to use firefox ... you can also use : https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/684
16:30 <nsh22> ok i got winscp
16:31 <nsh22> ffs
16:31 <joda_bot> hehe :-)
16:31 <joda_bot> ok
16:31 <nsh22> either luke gave me wrong pass or my partner changed it already...
16:31 <joda_bot> Just didn't think about FireFTP at first
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16:31 <joda_bot> no idea
16:33 <nsh22> UGH!
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16:37 <Vanhayes> #tea
16:37 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
16:39  * nsh22 is away: 
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16:47 <BabyBug> Hello epsy =)
16:48 <epsy> hi
16:51 <BabyBug> is zman started armagetron, who started the fork of armagetronad?
16:51 <BabyBug> s/is/if/
16:51 <joda_bot> BabyBug: guru3 did
16:51 <epsy> luci, tank and luke afaik
16:51 <joda_bot> :D
16:51 <guru3> errr
16:51 <guru3> me and marrow
16:51 <joda_bot> atleast he was the most prominent person (from my perspective) :D
16:52 <BabyBug> who's marrow?
16:52 <guru3> someone who's no longer around
16:52 <StickyNoob> im sparticus
16:54 <joda_bot> guru3: what was iF ReGeXiTs part ?
16:54 <joda_bot> he's atleast one of the first forum members :)
16:56 <guru3> he did the GLL
16:56 <guru3> also rain the... name escapes me servers
16:57 <epsy> GLL?
16:57 <guru3> global ladder leauge
16:57 <joda_bot> Global Ladder League
16:57 <joda_bot> :D
16:57 <guru3> he was the guy i was talking to when i started the forums
16:57 <epsy> was that only for armagetron or .. ?
16:57 <joda_bot> used a master server to monitor player online activity and also combined multiple server stats into one huge db
16:57 <joda_bot> armagetronad
16:58 <joda_bot> but the code is lost afaik
16:58 <guru3> it was version independent
16:58 <epsy> it's outdated anyway isn't it?
16:58 <guru3> he pulled the var/ files off of an http
16:58 <joda_bot> iF always liked to code in ASM and modify binaries :D
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16:58 <guru3> and used it to make stats across servers
16:58 <guru3> that he did
16:58 <joda_bot> epsy: I guess it was 0.2.8 compatible
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16:59 <joda_bot> just read the old ladder.log format
16:59 <joda_bot> wb g4p
16:59 <guru3> yeah
16:59 <g4p> hi
16:59 <guru3> old history
16:59 <joda_bot> g4p: können wir dir irgendwie helfen ?
16:59 <guru3> irc he was the guy who came up with negative breaking and double-binding
17:00 <guru3> *iirc
17:00 <joda_bot> hm, we perhaps should include his name somewhere in the former contributors ?
17:00 <g4p> ne^^
17:00 <joda_bot> g4p: ok
17:01 <guru3> he was into the community side of things, never did anything directly with the code
17:04 <joda_bot> guru3: ehh, the map editor ?
17:04 <guru3> still technically commuity
17:04 <guru3> *community
17:04 <joda_bot> guru3: he just did not contribute to the source code base .... I agree with that
17:05 <joda_bot> but I guess the reason was that he always liked to use his self-coded propertary libraries on windows
17:05 <guru3> yeah
17:05 <joda_bot> he could not have used them in armagetron without publishing the code
17:05 <guru3> he was one of the really impressive community people
17:06 <guru3> only clans these days
17:07  * joda_bot thinks guru3 sounds like missing the "good old days" when he was young :-P
17:07 <guru3> it's true though
17:07 <guru3> there's no single person doing an armagetron fansite
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17:08 <BabyBug> define fansite
17:08 <guru3> website semi-regularly updated with information about armagetron
17:09 <joda_bot> playfortress blog :-)
17:09 <joda_bot> they even got an invitation from a news site to rant on the game
17:09 <BabyBug> guru3, in fairness, there isn't alot of information to regulary update such a fansite with
17:09 <guru3> "they" -> group of people
17:09 <guru3> the old guys made stuff up
17:09 <guru3> iceman had player profiles
17:10 <Vanhayes> whatever happened to iceman?
17:10 <guru3> it's a long story that can be summed up with 'no one really knows'
17:10 <Vanhayes> ah, i see
17:10 <Vanhayes> is his site still up at least?
17:11 <guru3> angel runs a mirror of it
17:12 <BabyBug> any progress with a phpbb3 theme?
17:13 <guru3> haven't touched it since i made those screenshots
17:13 <guru3> (that's copying the existing one)
17:13 <guru3> and nothing besides a mockup on a new theme
17:13 <joda_bot> BabyBug: lack is taking a week off to get a fresh perspective the next time ... and I've posted on armagetron.co.uk to attract more attention and helpers
17:13 <BabyBug> i take it those screenshots are on the forums?
17:14 <guru3> of course
17:14  * BabyBug should really read the forums
17:14 <guru3> properly ignored and without feedback
17:15 <BabyBug> even though i don't use the forums, i don't see anything wrong with the current design. I like it's simplicity and don't see a reason to change it
17:15 <guru3> aparently the whole thing is getting stale
17:15 <joda_bot> BabyBug: just think about what would make you use the forums :D
17:15 <BabyBug> joda_bot, nothing. i don't like forums :P
17:16 <BabyBug> I mainly don't read the arma forums because i never know where to find anything
17:16 <joda_bot> ahhh :D
17:16 <BabyBug> For example, i have no idea which forum to look into to find these screenshots for example
17:16 <BabyBug> i said for example twice.. >.<
17:17 <guru3> oh yeah joda_bot
17:17 <guru3> what do you think would be a good split point for that thread?
17:17 <BabyBug> Can anyone give me a link to that thread please? :)
17:17 <guru3> actually
17:17 <joda_bot> guru3: just either cut Lucifer's post in half below his comment to me... or just split above his post ?
17:17 <guru3> there's a link to it on the mainsite
17:17 <BabyBug> ah
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17:17 <guru3> whch of his posts?
17:18 <joda_bot> guru3: I put the link into my post ?
17:18 <guru3> i'm confused now :(
17:18 <joda_bot> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=204810#204810
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17:19 <guru3> oh i'm not talkinga bout that thread
17:19 <guru3> i'm talking about where to split the modest proposal thread
17:19 <joda_bot> guru3: ah ok ...
17:19 <BabyBug> Am i the only one who doesn't like the design by lack? :|
17:19 <guru3> i'm not thrilled with it
17:20 <joda_bot> guru3:  http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=204739#204739 here ?
17:20 <joda_bot> add a post linking to discussion about website look&feel
17:21 <BabyBug> It just seems so "ew"...and i know that's not very helpful but i'm crap at offer suggestions for design
17:21 <joda_bot> hm or above sinewavs http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=204440#204440
17:21 <joda_bot> no idea
17:22 <guru3> i'd agree to that
17:22 <guru3> now where does it belong...
17:23 <BabyBug> I started looking for the thread in armagetron network...so i say there!
17:23 <joda_bot> amragetron general too ?
17:23 <guru3> i put it in 'this system'
17:24 <joda_bot> guru3: then move the modest proposal too ? *thinking*
17:24 <guru3> nah because that has to do more with everything
17:24 <joda_bot> but perhaps leave a link to the new post there for a while... otherwise noone will find it :D
17:24 <guru3> and specifically about how we communicate in general
17:24 <joda_bot> hm ok
17:24 <joda_bot> I'd say you should bump both posts (if that's not done automatically)
17:25 <joda_bot> and of course link them ... btw. are you the only person with moderation / split rights ?
17:25 <guru3> pretty much yeah
17:25 <joda_bot> guru3: oh, what about that hammer time thing on the wiki ?
17:25 <joda_bot> anyway to fix it ? :D
17:26 <guru3> is it broken?
17:26 <joda_bot> no it's nagging me
17:26 <BabyBug> btw guru3, you're screenshots...If you replaced the header with "Forums, Topics, Posts, Last post in it for a lighter colour...maybe complete white....Would look better imo :)
17:26 <joda_bot> BabyBug: contribute :D
17:26 <BabyBug> joda_bot, what?
17:26 <joda_bot> BabyBug: change it and post it
17:26 <joda_bot> :-)
17:26 <guru3> i have no idea what screenshot you're talking about BabyBug
17:26 <BabyBug> http://forums.armagetronad.net/download.php?id=9958
17:26 <BabyBug> that one
17:27 <joda_bot> huh ?
17:27 <guru3> that's just the default phpbb theme there
17:27 <guru3> for that bit
17:27 <guru3> all i changed was the header
17:27 <BabyBug> exactly!
17:27 <guru3> yes
17:27 <guru3> because doing more was more work
17:27 <guru3> that i didn't want to do at the time
17:28 <BabyBug> I know, but i don't see the point in straying from the default theme too much. I like it.
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17:28 <joda_bot> guru3: from my perspective you don't have to do it all by yourself  :-)
17:28 <joda_bot> BabyBug: I have some idea on how to make it less confusing ... for example things like Groups can go to the members page etc.
17:29 <guru3> you want to setup your own phpbb3 and work on modding phpbb3's subsilver to match the current theme?
17:29 <joda_bot> there are quite some links and informations which just confuse first timers ... and we can always have a simple theme for outsiders and an advanced detailed theme for which registered users can pick if unhappy
17:29 <BabyBug> guru3, Did you post a tar of the iamges after? :P
17:30 <guru3> no
17:30 <joda_bot> guru3: hm, I won't setup anything until we have agreed on a design and have some kind of repository for the theme
17:30 <guru3> repository hell :/
17:30 <joda_bot> I don't want the work to lunger in the background without anyone else contribution
17:31 <joda_bot> guru3: yeah I agree, why not put it into a subfolder of the www thing we have on SVN(?
17:31 <guru3> how does phpbb's copyright of their theme clash with that?
17:32 <joda_bot> guru3: never checked ...
17:32 <joda_bot> I hope that the subsilver is open sourced like the main code
17:32 <guru3> well i imagine ti is
17:32 <guru3> but ive just got no idea
17:32 <joda_bot> otherwise I'd get the neccessary permissions, but first we need a plan :D
17:33 <guru3> id just be happy with a phpbb3 port of the current theme
17:33 <guru3> so that i could upgrade the forums
17:33 <guru3> and stop worrying about security so much
17:33 <joda_bot> guru3: uhm ok
17:33 <guru3> because uh, we're out of date
17:33 <guru3> *whistle*
17:34 <BabyBug> I'd try to port it! as atm i sit around doing nothing all day....but unfortunately i know nothing about it
17:34 <joda_bot> BabyBug: have you ever helped new players ?
17:35 <joda_bot> BabyBug: you might want to rework the FAQ in the wiki ... it's questions are not really that newbie friendly
17:36 <BabyBug> :|
17:36 <BabyBug> that's a big list of faq's
17:36 <joda_bot> yeah and it's kind of a bad one too..
17:37 <joda_bot> the answers need to longer than the questions :-) more positive ... I think it nearly requires a restructuring / rewrite to some extent
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18:35 <nsh22> herro
18:37 <nsh22> ugh, im trying to install linux on my shitty ass comp downstairs and its being retarded
18:46 <nsh22> anyone know how to fix this : when i tell ubuntu to start/install, it installs the kernel then the comp restarts...
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18:47 <zurd> hai
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18:47 <nsh22> :P
18:47 <nsh22> hai
18:47 <zurd> #q
18:47 <@armabot> zurd: Quote #61: "<MrBougo> amragetron p2p client, with a game inside and both would interact: you get a better ratio when you kill people, stay in the zone to keep downloading! the first team who downloaded the whole film wins" (added by epsy at 03:39 PM, October 27, 2007)
18:47 <nsh22> zurd: you been able to get on the vps yet?
18:47 <zurd> yes, talk on msn
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19:04 <nsh22> #r
19:04 <nsh22> #roulette
19:04 <armabot> nsh22: *click*
19:10 <akira_arma> #tea
19:10 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
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19:17 <epsy> http://imgs.xkcd.com/blag/audio_preview_2.png
19:18 <zurd> #roulette
19:18 <armabot> zurd: *click*
19:31 <epsy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WwioPVeedo
19:32 <BabyBug> youtube fails
19:32 <BabyBug> i can barely watch any music videos :(
19:32 <BabyBug> stupid licenses
19:32 <epsy> see descr
19:42 <luke-jr> Lucifer: I can make you a VPS with mostly any OS
19:42 <BabyBug> luke-jr, link to your vps' again please
19:43 <luke-jr> BabyBug: the prices page?
19:43 <luke-jr> http://lightfoot.dashjr.org/?page=vps
19:43 <BabyBug> yes :)
19:43 <BabyBug> ty :)
19:44 <BabyBug> luke-jr, # ** More than 1 IP requires standard ARIN justification <-- What does that mean? :|
19:45 <luke-jr> BabyBug: you can't just buy IPs, you need to have a reason for them
19:45 <luke-jr> ARIN won't allocate IPs without justification
19:45 <luke-jr> everyone dealing with IPs has this limitation
19:46 <BabyBug> Oh right yeh ok, The ARIN confused me :x
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19:49 <BabyBug> If you offer EU vps' at some point i assume they'll be the same price?
19:49 <luke-jr> probably, yeah
19:50 <luke-jr> I'm looking for a dedi there
19:50 <BabyBug> okies
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20:06 <joda_bot> luke-jr: try hetzner :D
20:06 <luke-jr> wtf?
20:07 <epsy> as provider
20:07 <epsy> wrtl uses that
20:07 <luke-jr> link?
20:08 <epsy> @g hetzner
20:08 <teabot> epsy: http://www.hetzner.co.za/ - Hetzner - Trusted in Hosting
20:08 <joda_bot> http://www.hetzner.com/
20:08 <joda_bot> co.za is south africa
20:08 <joda_bot> I guess you might want to use google translations to read the german page
20:09 <epsy> heh
20:09 <joda_bot> http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hetzner.de&sl=de&tl=en&hl=de&ie=UTF-8
20:12 <luke-jr> I'd need 2x my 1 GB VPS plan to afford that :x
20:16 <BabyBug> #n9
20:16 <armabot> BabyBug: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (0/16):
20:16 <BabyBug> why does no one ever play there :@
20:17 <joda_bot> luke-jr: did you check the root servers ?
20:17 <joda_bot> luke-jr: there is a root server with unlimited transfer volume afaik
20:18 <BabyBug> truly unlimited? and no crappy sla policy?
20:19 <joda_bot> BabyBug: I can a friend of mine, he uses it
20:19 <joda_bot> I can *ask*
20:20 <BabyBug> The last dedi i had, had unlimited usage, but if you used the full connection for more than x% of the month, they dropped it from gbit to 100mbit...it was lame
20:22 <luke-jr> joda_bot: so?
20:22 <joda_bot> ah ok there is a limit
20:22 <luke-jr> joda_bot: transfer is not usually a problem
20:23 <luke-jr> memory is
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20:24 <luke-jr> nsh22: I need to run; how goes it?
20:24 <joda_bot> luke-jr: traffic is for free*. if you use more than  1.000 GB/month you connection is limited to 10 MBit/s. Optional you can pay 0,09 € for each additional GB to get a permanent bandwidth of 100 MBit/s.
20:24 <nsh22> luke-jr: nb, i owes you $29 right?
20:25 <luke-jr> nsh22: $19 I thought? I forget and gotta run. no rush if you're unsure
20:25 <nsh22> luke-jr: your right, my bad lol
20:25 <nsh22> ill send it as soon as i work it out with zurd
20:25 <nsh22> pce
20:38 <BabyBug> mmmmmm eggy bread
20:44 <nsh22> ???
20:44 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50870DA6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron
20:44 <nsh22> hey z
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20:45 <BabyBug> nsh22, eggy bread!
20:45 <animuson> is there a way to send a message to a single player using a command? rather than /msg
20:45 <nsh22> BabyBug: has lz returnedever sonce her "episode"
20:45 <nsh22> liz*
20:45 <z-man> message_player or somesuch.
20:45 <BabyBug> animuson, PLAYER_MESSAGE?
20:45 <BabyBug> nsh22, yes, lol
20:46 <BabyBug> and it was hardly an episode :P
20:46 <nsh22> lol
20:46 <nsh22> btw, eggy bread = french toast?
20:47 <BabyBug> it's called eggy bread! :@
20:47 <nsh22> o0
20:48 <nsh22> ive heard of egg bread
20:48 <nsh22> challah (jewish)
20:48 <BabyBug> It's the same as french toast
20:48 <BabyBug> But it's called eggy bread...Not french toast
20:48 <BabyBug> french toast is a silly name
20:48 <nsh22> oh
20:49 <nsh22> are you anti french now lol?
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20:49 <BabyBug> I've always been anti french :s
20:49 <nsh22> lol
20:49 <joda_bot> eggy bread = eggs on toast ?
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20:49 <nsh22> at least you dont have to live with an entire provence of them :P
20:49 <BabyBug> eggy bread is bread dipped in eggs
20:49 <BabyBug> and then fried in a pan
20:50 <nsh22> FRENCH TOAST!
20:50 <joda_bot> BabyBug: OH noooooo, that ruins the bread
20:50 <joda_bot> poor poor little bread
20:50 <BabyBug> WHAT?!
20:50 <nsh22> lol
20:50 <nsh22> its good
20:50 <BabyBug> joda_bot, go die
20:50 <joda_bot> slaughtered and fried at the same time
20:50 <nsh22> i add cinnamon, sugar and vannilla to the egg mixture
20:50 <joda_bot> sugar ?!?!
20:50 <nsh22> try it next tieme
20:50 <joda_bot> ARGH!
20:51 <nsh22> ]jimp
20:51 <ljrbot> nsh22 just jizzed in his pants
20:51 <nsh22> it ssoo good
20:51 <joda_bot> no ... I bake my own bread without sugar :-) and it tastes excellent if it comes out of the oven :-)
20:51 <nsh22> ok that came out wrong but anyway
20:51 <nsh22> oh no, i would never use homemade bread for french toast
20:51 <nsh22> just plain storebought
20:52 <nsh22> and i dont adfd sugar to bread (well... i do for the yeast to eat)
20:52 <BabyBug> joda_bot, dip the baked bread in beaten eggs!
20:52 <nsh22> lol
20:53 <joda_bot> BabyBug: I don't like eggs that much .. they are only acceptable in waffle or cake :-) ... Eggs should not be wrapped around bread :-D
20:58 <nsh22> eggs are used in  brioche
20:59 <BabyBug> joda_bot, you don't wrap egg! You beat the middle of the eggs really really hard...and then dip the bread in it
20:59 <epsy> and in throwing them on BabyBug as well
20:59 <joda_bot> nsh22: looks like a cake-variation
20:59 <nsh22> ... do i need to make a video
20:59 <BabyBug> epsy, Do you want to be kicked off a cliff?
21:00 <joda_bot> BabyBug: sure, but I don't dip any bread into uncooked eggs :D
21:00 <epsy> Sure!
21:00 <nsh22> joda_bot: no, its bread, but with egg yolks and buter and mmmmmmmm
21:00 <BabyBug> ...
21:00 <epsy> <3
21:00 <BabyBug> *pouts*
21:00 <BabyBug> Get working on eevents you slacker!
21:00 <BabyBug> :P
21:01 <epsy> fff.armagetron0.co.uk
21:01 <epsy> but remove that 0
21:01 <epsy> fff.armagetron.co.uk
21:01 <Vanhayes> #tea
21:01 <joda_bot> nsh22: it's a classic yeast/barm receipee
21:02 <BabyBug> z-man is catching you up on points epsy!
21:02 <nsh22> joda_bot: what is?
21:02 <epsy> Onoz! Onoz! Onozen!
21:02 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (7/32): Aiphaton, free kill (dlh@generalconsumption.org), opew, power, stax, ß|AoS|, ~|DS|~AshitakA
21:02 <epsy> ok I go back to wirk on arma
21:02 <epsy> :D
21:02 <BabyBug> :D
21:02 <nsh22> can i work on arma?
21:02 <nsh22> :D
21:02 <epsy> you can
21:03 <joda_bot> epsy: the page takes quite some time to load :-)
21:03 <epsy> the the bg is giant
21:03 <nsh22> joda_bot: your comp just fails :P
21:03 <epsy> but you can use it as wallpaper, like me :)
21:03 <joda_bot> :-)
21:03 <nsh22> what will the site be eventuially?
21:04 <epsy> It's coming, soon
21:04 <nsh22> ....
21:04 <nsh22> what will it be?
21:04 <epsy> ;)
21:04 <epsy> there will be what I'll put on it
21:04  * nsh22 smacks his head
21:04  * nsh22 needs to expel waste
21:05  * nsh22 is away: hi
21:05 <epsy> why would I post a teaser wallpaper if it's then to reveal everything?
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21:08 <Vanhayes> http://beta.armagetronad.net/?product=client&branch=Any&hideold=0&os=Windows&arch=&bitness=_64&format=EXE#download
21:08 <epsy> no direct links please
21:08 <Vanhayes> how come there is no more exe for 0.3, or anything else up there?
21:08 <dlh> choose 32 bitness
21:08 <nsh22> what you mean no directlinks?
21:09 <Vanhayes> ha, duh
21:09 <Vanhayes> thanks
21:09  * nsh22 is back (gone 00:04:10)
21:09 <epsy> ...
21:11 <Vanhayes> also was wondering (if anyone knows off hand) if the glancing from 0.3 and 0.2.8 are ever going to be options like some suggested
21:12  * BabyBug wishes people would just accept the 0.3 glancing *growls*
21:13 <dlh> 0.3 is terrible.
21:13 <dlh> glancing that is
21:13 <BabyBug> it is not!
21:13 <dlh> it was committed by accident :)
21:13 <epsy> it is not, but I agree players should have their choice
21:13 <Vanhayes> i like the glances from 0.3, thats the reason i wanted to dl 0.3 on this pc
21:14 <BabyBug> dlh, That's proof that not all accidents are bad :)
21:14 <Vanhayes> i was just hoping it doesnt get forgotten when a new release comes out
21:15 <nsh22> how do i set up a server on a vps?
21:16 <BabyBug> what kind of server?
21:16 <nsh22> arma
21:16 <BabyBug> is "download the source and compile" to vague?
21:16 <nsh22> erm....
21:16 <nsh22> ok
21:16 <nsh22> i has thge source (i think)...
21:17 <nsh22> how would i compile it on the server (would putty work?)
21:19 <z-man> joda_bot: I'm not worried about compile times too much. As long as they don't grow quicker than my computers get faster, that is :)
21:20 <joda_bot> z-man: hm ok
21:22 <epsy> nsh22, read the readme, it can always help you and us
21:23 <nsh22> ... ill just ask zurd how he did it
21:24 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft's r8689 build needs to be marked obsolete
21:24 <luke-jr> nsh22: the control panel includes 0.2.8.2.1, and Zurd already installed 0.2.8-sty+ct HEAD
21:25 <nsh22> where is the control panel?
21:25 <luke-jr> nsh22: adduser <name> && ~/setup-newuser <name> <service name> <version> && passwd <name>
21:25 <luke-jr> https://<your IP>/aa-admin/
21:26 <nsh22> ahok ty
21:26 <nsh22> i tried to make a new user, but neal was already teaken...
21:26 <luke-jr> it was? O.o
21:26 <nsh22> yeah...
21:27 <nsh22> ill just sign on as root and look around
21:27 <nsh22> i gots warnings...
21:27 <luke-jr> ?
21:27 <luke-jr> PM
21:30 <nsh22> brb, dinner
21:38 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r9164 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases.php: mark old build as obsolete
21:38 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
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21:58 <nsh22> back
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22:31  * zurd afk
22:32 <epsy> zurd, http://www.bitches-irc.net/awaymsgs.html
22:32  * BabyBug agrees!!
22:33 <nsh22> it wasnt an away message
22:33 <epsy> still a message we don't have to see
22:34 <nsh22> actually...
22:35 <nsh22> if he didnt say that, i might ask him something stupid that i might not have otherwise :P
22:35 <epsy> then he will be clever and read it later
22:35 <epsy> and for that, there's /away
22:35 <nsh22> ...
22:36 <BabyBug> Away Messages are good. As long as they're not announced to an entire channel.
22:36 <epsy> BabyBug sums it up
22:36 <BabyBug> Any decent client is capable of reading the thing you type with /away <reason here>
22:37 <nsh22> like this?
22:37  * nsh22 is away: hi
22:37 <epsy> no
22:37 <epsy> you just
22:38 <epsy> [23:36] <BabyBug>: [...] announced [it] to an entire channel.
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22:39 <BabyBug> nsh22, /set away_show_message off
22:39 -!- nsh22 [n=neal@unaffiliated/nsh22] has quit ["gud bye"]
22:39 <BabyBug> or that
22:39 <epsy> :)
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22:46 <nsh22> http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/11_01/sarcophL0411_468x1385.jpg <=== i have to make that out of cake :P
22:47 <MrBougo> haha nsh22
22:47 <nsh22> :P
22:47 <nsh22> it will be fun
22:48 <nsh22> it will be about 2 feet long by 1 1/2 feet wide
22:48 <nsh22> covered in fondaant
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22:50 <MrBougo> lol
22:50 <nsh22> do you know what fondant is?
22:57 <MrBougo> nsh22, depends
22:57 <MrBougo> it has several meanings in french
22:57 <nsh22> ... its used forcovering cakes
22:58 <nsh22> atleast the fondant im talking about
22:59 <MrBougo> glaze?
22:59 <nsh22> no
22:59 <MrBougo> oh nvm
22:59 <MrBougo> okay found it
22:59 <nsh22> lol
22:59 <nsh22> @gtfy MrBougo fondant for cakes
22:59 <MrBougo> yeah that stuff cake makers use on sponge cake to make it look like all sorts of things
22:59 <teabot> MrBougo: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=fondant%20for%20cakes
23:00 <nsh22> yea
23:00 <nsh22> used mainly on weddinbg cakes
23:00 <MrBougo> I never had a fondant-covered cake :<
23:00 <MrBougo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fondant.JPG
23:00 <MrBougo> lol awesome
23:00 <nsh22> yeah, that stuff
23:01 <nsh22> ive done some cakes with it before
23:01  * nsh22 goes searching for one
23:01 <MrBougo> that one cake is awesome
23:01 <MrBougo> detail on the fabric
23:01 <MrBougo> wtf.
23:02 <nsh22> http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk26/nsh22/Sphinx.jpg
23:02 <nsh22> my firast fondant ckae
23:02 <nsh22> :P
23:03 <MrBougo> that's tiny
23:03 <MrBougo> because you wanted to hide details? :p
23:03 <MrBougo> it looks fun
23:03 <nsh22> no... i dont know why the piccame out so tiny
23:04 <MrBougo> hehe np
23:04 <MrBougo> I got the idea :)
23:04 <nsh22> its friggin messy shit... you need to cover everything with either cornstartch or powdered sugar
23:05 <nsh22> btw that image was slightly photoshopped cuz the pic really highlighted all the starch on it...
23:05 <nsh22> but other than that
23:06 <Pathetique> Anyone here know how I can use PHP to remove certain text from players.txt so I can show what users are connected to a server?
23:10  * Pathetique taps microphone
23:10 <nsh22> lol
23:11 <Pathetique> Is this thing on?
23:11 <nsh22> nope
23:11  * Pathetique senses a rtfm from someone coming soon...
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23:11 <BabyBug> lol Pathetique, sure, shouldn't be too hard to do :)
23:11  * nsh22 stands swinging a cut cord 
23:11 <Pathetique> What function would I ue?
23:12 <Pathetique> use*
23:12 <dlh> take the first 16 characters of the line, and trim the whitespace at thened
23:12 <dlh> the end*
23:12 <Pathetique> I see.
23:12 <Pathetique> I figured that much out, thouhg.
23:12 <Pathetique> :P
23:15 <BabyBug> Pathetique, you can use substr to get the first 16 characters
23:16 <Pathetique> I see.
23:16 <Pathetique> I wouldn't be able to use include("filehere.extension"); for it then, right?
23:17 <epsy> seriousely, only use include if it's going to be php
23:17 <epsy> really
23:17 <Pathetique> lawl
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23:17 <epsy> I once did that with images
23:17 <epsy> and it once interpreted it as php, somehow
23:17 <Pathetique> It spit out text, right?
23:17 <epsy> no
23:17 <Pathetique> oic
23:17 <epsy> I had set correct mimetypes
23:18 <epsy> but it spew out an error
23:18 <Pathetique> ah
23:18 <epsy> (thus some text as an image)
23:19 <epsy> so don't do it
23:19 <Pathetique> Indeed.
23:19 <epsy> actually, on my own comp it worked fine
23:19 <epsy> be it found a <? on the server, apparently
23:20 <epsy> and tried to interpret the rest as php, heh
23:22 <Pathetique> you should have turned off the short tag thing
23:24 <zurd> away msg are da bomb, your all just jelous
23:24 <BabyBug> you're*
23:24 <zurd> exactly
23:26 <Pathetique> lolol
23:26 <BabyBug> armabot should have a plugin to auto kick people who announce they're away
23:27 <BabyBug> The first time they just get a warning. Second time, KICK!
23:27 <nsh22> make one then
23:27 <Pathetique> BabyBug: #roulette
23:27 <BabyBug> #roulette
23:27 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
23:27  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
23:27 <BabyBug> :)
23:27 <Pathetique> LOL
23:27 <Pathetique> #roulette
23:28 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
23:28  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
23:28 <Pathetique> phew.
23:28 <BabyBug> It has no ops...
23:28 <nsh22> Pathetique: ]r
23:28 <nsh22> ]r
23:28 <ljrbot> nsh22: *click*
23:28 <Pathetique> nty
23:28 <nsh22> ]r
23:28 <ljrbot> nsh22: *click*
23:28 <nsh22> ]r
23:28 <ljrbot> nsh22: *click*
23:28 <Pathetique> ]r
23:28 <nsh22> ]r
23:28 <ljrbot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
23:28 <Pathetique> ]r
23:28  * ljrbot reloads and spins the chambers.
23:28 <ljrbot> nsh22: *click*
23:28 <ljrbot> Pathetique: *click*
23:28 <Pathetique> LOLSPAM
23:28 <BabyBug> stop spamming :|
23:28 <nsh22> ]hug babybug
23:28 <ljrbot> nsh22 hugs babybug because they like them
23:29 <BabyBug> ]ignore nsh22
23:29 <Pathetique> ]alias add whofarted say $randomNick farted!
23:29 <ljrbot> Pathetique: The operation succeeded.
23:29 <Pathetique> ]whofarted
23:29 <ljrbot> Pathetique: Error: "say" is not a valid command.
23:29 <Pathetique> ffs.
23:29 <nsh22> why you ignore me?
23:29 <Pathetique> ]alias add whofarted echo say $randomNick farted!
23:29 <ljrbot> Pathetique: The operation succeeded.
23:29 <Pathetique> ]whofarted
23:29 <ljrbot> say Lucifer farted!
23:29 <nsh22> ]whofarted
23:29 <ljrbot> say g4p farted!
23:29 <Pathetique> LOL
23:29 <BabyBug> nsh22, One good reason to ignore you would be the fact you're almost more annoying than ivantis.
23:29 <Pathetique> ]alias add whofarted echo $randomNick farted!
23:29 <ljrbot> Pathetique: The operation succeeded.
23:29 <nsh22> BabyBug: now thats just mean
23:29 <Pathetique> L. O. L. @BabyBug
23:29  * nsh22 goes and cries
23:30 <BabyBug> and an emo
23:30 <nsh22> lol
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23:34 <nsh22> luke-jr: umm, the server you added to my vps... i cant edit the server_info
23:34 <Pathetique> Then don't bother with it.
23:34 <Pathetique> Make a new file
23:35 <Pathetique> info.cfg, and use that instead.
23:35 <Pathetique> lol
23:35 <nsh22> ... its using his cp so...
23:35 <Pathetique> oic.
23:38 -!- zurd [i=629675b5@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-505ce7a5c4fa7f3b] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
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23:38 <zurd> shit i am so sorry
23:38 <Pathetique> Why?
23:39 <zurd> ohh, ok, it banned before it showed
23:39 <nsh22> ?
23:39 <zurd> i have about 2 pages of results on my clipbored
23:39 <Pathetique> What, did you draw a billion :O<=================8's or something>?
23:39 <nsh22> oh you pasted something and it kicked :p
23:39 <BabyBug> Lucifer, ping armabot! :P
23:40 <nsh22> #ping
23:40 <armabot> pong
23:40 <Pathetique> #king
23:40 <armabot> kong
23:40 <Pathetique> :D
23:40 <nsh22> #thing
23:40 <armabot> thong
23:40 <nsh22> :P
23:40 <zurd> #ming
23:40 <zurd> ?
23:40 <armabot> mong
23:40 <zurd> :o
23:40 <nsh22> #phyhgftdfing
23:40 <nsh22> aw
23:40 <Pathetique> that was retarded.
23:40 <nsh22> i should stop
23:41 <zurd> phling
23:41 <zurd> #fling
23:41 <nsh22> ok enough spam zurd
23:41 <zurd> #q
23:41 <Pathetique> rsly
23:41 <zurd> meh
23:41 <Pathetique> srsly*
23:41 <Pathetique> #finger
23:41 <armabot> zurd: Quote #15: "You see a body ripped appart, blood splatter on the ceiling, gore all over. Tell me, would you really suspect that worm making a run for it toward the door at 5 cm per minute? No you would not! - philippeqc" (added by n54 at 08:09 PM, April 25, 2006)
23:42 <Pathetique> #finger
23:42 <Pathetique> wtf
23:42 <Pathetique> there used to be one someone added where armabot would be like "/me orgasm"
23:42 <Pathetique> lololol
23:42 <nsh22> #llist
23:42 <nsh22> #list
23:42 <armabot> nsh22: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Format, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Insult, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Nickometer, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
23:42 <BabyBug> It was removed :P
23:43 <Pathetique> By that killjoy epsy, right?
23:43 <BabyBug> No idea
23:43 <nsh22> #weather innisfil
23:43 <armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Innisfil, Innisfil, Ontario is 50.7°F (6:43 PM EDT on March 16, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 29%. Dew Point: 19.4°F. Pressure: 30.21 in 1022.9 hPa (Falling).
23:43 <BabyBug> It was only need so i could cheat on lizmatic 8-)
23:43 <nsh22> lol
23:43 <zurd> armabuilder: status
23:43 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle, last build 62136 secs ago: failed Distcheck Installcheck
23:43 <armabuilder> linux-server: idle, last build 46784 secs ago: build successful
23:44 <Pathetique> armasexer: status
23:44 <BabyBug> Oh there's an armabuilder :|
23:44 <nsh22> zurd: how come your servers work and mine fail :(
23:44 <Pathetique> Cause you're gay. :P
23:44 <nsh22> im not very happy at the moment to be honest
23:45 <nsh22> so...
23:45 <Pathetique> LOL
23:45 <zurd> luke should know
23:45 <zurd> =\
23:45 <nsh22> . . .
23:45 <BabyBug> nsh22, what problem are you having?
23:45 <nsh22> well.. when i edit sever_info through lukes cp, it says some error
23:45 <nsh22> meh, ill deal with it tomorrow
23:46 <nsh22> i gots hw to do
23:46 <Pathetique> nsh22: why don't you
23:46 <Pathetique> change the friggin settings.cfg
23:46 <Pathetique> instead?
23:46 <nsh22> YOU do it then :P
23:46 <BabyBug> Pathetique, that would be hard :)
23:46 <Pathetique> LOL yeah it would be hard.
23:48 <zurd> whats the comand to change a user's password using debian 4.0 server?
23:48 <nsh22> any1 know the command for changing passwords on a server (i.e. through puTTy)
23:48 <nsh22> ...
23:49 <BabyBug> passwd username
23:49 <nsh22> ??
23:49 <Pathetique> zurd: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=password+change+debian+4.0
23:49 <zurd> "passwrd" <username>
23:49 <nsh22> i gots it
23:50 <nsh22> you dont even need username...
23:50 -!- zurd [i=629675b5@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a4fc49b25706bb56] has quit ["http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client"]
23:50 <Pathetique> whardhego?
23:51 <nsh22> idunnowhardadhaygo?
23:51 <nsh22> :P

Log from 2009-03-17:
--- Day changed Tue Mar 17 2009
00:00 <Vanhayes> #g 95000 rubles in CAD
00:00 <armabot> Vanhayes: 95 000 Russian rubles = 3 480.71931 Canadian dollars
00:00 <nsh22> lol
00:00 -!- zurd [i=629675b5@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-87523d227a437535] has joined #armagetron
00:00 <Pathetique> wb
00:01 <Pathetique> zurd, did you get my link?
00:01 <Vanhayes> #g 1 CAD in Peso
00:01 <armabot> Vanhayes: 1 Canadian dollar = 11.1679703 Mexican pesos
00:01 <Pathetique> #g 1 USD in Vietnam
00:01 <armabot> Pathetique: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
00:01 <Pathetique> rofl
00:02 <Vanhayes> http://www.educationalsimulations.com/ ever try this game out?
00:02 <Vanhayes> if you can call it a game i guess
00:02 <Vanhayes> more of a simulator
00:03 <Pathetique> looks rly dumb.
00:03 <Pathetique> LOL
00:03 <Vanhayes> its weird
00:03 <Pathetique> I much prefer http://www.towerdefence.net/games-29-Vector_TD.php
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00:14 <zurd> yeah, thanks path
00:15 <Pathetique> :D
00:15 <compguygene> hi path
00:15 <Pathetique> \o
00:16 <compguygene> how do you feel about messing with some .3 server action
00:16 <Pathetique> I <3 0.3.0
00:16 <compguygene> tonight i am gonna setup an account an binary for .3 servers
00:17 <compguygene> figured things look mature enough to start to play
00:18 <Pathetique> Indeed.
00:18 <BabyBug> What kind of server?
00:18 <compguygene> the first one that i would like to do is a simple map rotation server
00:18 <Pathetique> 0.3.0 has map rotation?
00:18 <Pathetique> wtf
00:19 <Pathetique> LOL
00:19 <compguygene> my understanding is that map and config rotation commands are now available..according to the wiki
00:19 <nsh22> i beleive that in 0.3 there is mamp_rotate or sumthin lik ethat :P
00:19 <dlh> #tea
00:20 <armabot> dlh: Fortress Café: Players (8/32): 1942, free kill (dlh@generalconsumption.org), myte, nara, Radian +, SolidifiedForce, Tybalt, viper
00:20 <Pathetique> :o
00:20 <compguygene> there's a page on the wiki about it
00:20 <nsh22> #aawiki map rotation
00:20 <armabot> nsh22: Search took 0.60 seconds: Map /Config Rotation - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Map/Config_Rotation>; Code hacks - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Code_hacks>; Old Servers - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Old_Servers>; Swamplords on Crack - Armagetron Advanced (1 more message)
00:21 <compguygene> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Map/Config_Rotation
00:22 <compguygene> also, luke-jr tells me that his testing of the zones v2 server he has running has shown good stability...so i think its time to play
00:23 <compguygene> at least with fortress game types
00:24 <Pathetique> Fortress isn't quite yet possible with v2, I thought.
00:24 <compguygene> go in the zones v2 server that luke jr has been running...it works
00:24 <compguygene> and it has been running crash free for several weeks now
00:25 <compguygene> that includes people playing with settings, etc.
00:25  * Pathetique could crash it if he tried
00:25  * compguygene has no doubts about that
00:25 <Pathetique> lolololol
00:26  * compguygene is hoping that together we could do some cool stuff...before others get the idea
00:26 <compguygene> besides...someone has to be first to find the bugs
00:26 <Pathetique> Well for one thing, there's no acceleration zones.
00:26 <Pathetique> :S
00:27 <compguygene> XD
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00:27 <compguygene> BTW...the sty branch almost has working flags
00:28 <compguygene> hi smoothice!
00:28 <nsh22> HAI!
00:28 <smoothice> hi
00:29 <Pathetique> HAI
00:29 <nsh22> gawddammit, evrytime you come on here smooth, my mom kicks me off
00:29 <Pathetique> LOL
00:29 <smoothice> ...
00:29 <smoothice> how about you say
00:29 <smoothice> god damnit
00:29 <smoothice> lol
00:29 <Pathetique> tell her
00:29 <Pathetique> "LOLWTFBBQ"
00:29 <nsh22> cuz, i got yelled at by luke wife one time... it wasnt good
00:30 <nsh22> at least i think it was her...
00:30 <smoothice> wtf?
00:30 <compguygene> hmm..ib the father of a 12yo girl and 14yo boy..nah..not a good idea
00:30 <nsh22> she was onhere for luke...
00:30 <compguygene> i can only imagine
00:30 <nsh22> at least i think it was his wife, couldve been him...
00:31 <compguygene> lol
00:31 -!- sinewav [n=sinewav@adsl-76-197-246-93.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #armagetron
00:31 <compguygene> hi sine..
00:32 <smoothice> sinewav
00:32 -!- smoothice is now known as sinewave
00:32 <sinewave> lol
00:32 <nsh22> smoothice: FAIL!
00:32 -!- sinewave is now known as tanwav
00:32 <compguygene> hey..did you guys see the new "saloon" servers from Wild West
00:32 <Pathetique> indeed'
00:32 <tanwav> compguygene: Yeah
00:32 <nsh22> yes
00:32 <nsh22> i loled a bit
00:33 <tanwav> where you can say goddammit all day long :P
00:33 <nsh22> i guess they got fed up with the complaints about theoir no cuss rukles
00:33 <compguygene> its their response to the communities desire for Ww servers with no censorship
00:33 <nsh22> lol
00:33 <compguygene> also..anyone banned from Ww servers...can go there...like 808 beaner..etc
00:34 <compguygene> let those guys know...so we all can have a little more peace
00:34 <nsh22> lol its a free for all
00:34 <Pathetique> indeed
00:34 <Pathetique> So that way noobsaibot won't be like "LOLFREEBEANER"
00:34 <nsh22> s there a warning saying: use at own risk
00:36 <nsh22> kk im out
00:36 <Pathetique> cu
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00:38 <sinewave> hi
00:39 -!- tanwav is now known as smoothice
00:40 <Pathetique> smoothice: that lost its novelty BEFORE you even changed your name.
00:43 <smoothice> lol
00:43 -!- smoothice is now known as cosinewav
00:43 <cosinewav> hah
00:43 <cosinewav> clever :P
00:43 -!- cosinewav is now known as smoothice
00:43 <smoothice> w/e
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00:43 <compguygene> well i gtg
00:43 <smoothice> ok
00:43 <smoothice> bye compdude
00:43 <compguygene> but Tanwav is a pretty graph
00:44 <smoothice> lol
00:44 <smoothice> yep
00:44 <smoothice> ...
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00:44 <sinewave> you know, my name is actually more of a musical reference than a math one...
00:45 <BabyBug> Why the e on the end now?
00:46 <sinewave> that's my alt nick. my client keeps bouncing me.
00:46 <guru3> is your third choice sin.wave?
00:46 <BabyBug> lurker
00:46 <sinewave> mmm, no third choice. but that's a good one
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00:49 <guru3> or sinwav
00:49 <sinewave> yeah, that's good too.
00:50 <guru3> with sin/sine/wav/wave you get 4 combinations really
00:50 <guru3> all the the same meaning
00:50 <smoothice> 8
00:50 <smoothice> w/tan
00:50 <guru3> then you can start adding ./_/- inbetween
00:50 <guru3> ie sin_wav
00:50 <guru3> 12 combinations right there
00:50 -!- sinewav [n=sinewav@adsl-76-197-246-93.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
00:50 <sinewave> finally
00:50 -!- sinewave is now known as sinewav
00:50 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50870DA6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)]
00:50 <sinewav> ...
00:50 <guru3> or you could express it as tan(wav)cos(wav)
00:51 <BabyBug> lol sinewav why don't you register it?
00:51 <guru3> since cos would cancel and you'd be left wth sin
00:51 <sinewav> guru3: : this is true...
00:51 <sinewav> BabyBug: : uh, that would takes brains and motivation
00:51 <BabyBug> ...
00:51 <sinewav> things I have little of
00:52 <BabyBug> i highly doubt you have less than me, and i could do it :)
00:59 <armabot> armagetronad: guru3 * r9165 /www/mainsite/links.php: new clan site
00:59 <BabyBug> yet another clan site, oh joys
01:00  * sinewav registerd. thanks.
01:01 <BabyBug> and now you won't have to wait
01:01 <guru3> except you'll still have to kill the other client manually
01:01 <sinewav> \o/
01:01 <BabyBug> and if you're really feeling motivated, you could make it automatically ghost you
01:01 <guru3> so really you just gave yourself more work
01:02 <sinewav> ...
01:02  * sinewav trows a knife at bug
01:02 <BabyBug> guru3, that depends on your interpretation as work. I consider waiting as work. So i give him less work. :)
01:02 <BabyBug> s/as/of/
01:05 <guru3> satelites are the mosquitoes of space
01:06 <guru3> 100 years from now, your spaceshpi will need giant windscreen wipers to wipe the damn things off
01:06 <guru3> *spaceship
01:07 <BabyBug> 100 years from now i won't have a spaceship :)
01:07 <guru3> too old that even medical science won't keep you alive that long?
01:07 <BabyBug> I can't see me living to 118
01:07 <guru3> assuming i'm a) not hit by pulic transport and b) not electrocuted i've got an OK shot
01:08 <BabyBug> even if i did live to 118, i still can't see my owning a spaceship at that age
01:09 <guru3> no dream?
01:10 <BabyBug> No dream at all
01:10 <guru3> you'll at least see 2100 right?
01:11 <BabyBug> No
01:11 <guru3> planning on dieing young then?
01:12 <guru3> shame :/
01:12 <BabyBug> I don't mind dieing young as long as i die happy
01:12 <smoothice> DYING!
01:12 <BabyBug> So dieing now would suit me just fine :)
01:12 <smoothice> not dieing!
01:13 <guru3> oops
01:13 <smoothice> ...
01:13 <guru3> i'm probably going to become old and bitter
01:14 <BabyBug> I'll make sure i'm dead before i become old and bitter
01:14 <smoothice> for a baby, you're pretty pessimistic
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01:15 <BabyBug> I'm actually an optimist =)
01:15 <guru3> *sigh*
01:15 <BabyBug> I'm saying i'll die happy. What's not optimistic about that?
01:15 <smoothice> uh
01:15 <smoothice> dying is pessimistic altogether?
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01:15 <BabyBug> Uhh, no...
01:15 <Vanhayes> dying is a part of life
01:16 <Vanhayes> its the period of life's sentence
01:16 <Vanhayes> .
01:16 <BabyBug> At the very most you could say i'm being morbid. But that's borderline
01:16 <BabyBug> I'm not being pessimistic
01:17 <guru3> what you've said could be interperated as "i'll die young, but gosh-darn-it all, i'm going to bloody well die happy"
01:17 <BabyBug> No. Because i said old AND bitter. Not old OR bitter :)
01:18 <Lucifer> YES!
01:18 <Lucifer> I passed part 1 of the exam!  :)
01:18 <Lucifer> if I pass part 2, I have a job!
01:18 <BabyBug> Congratulations!
01:18 <BabyBug> :o
01:18 <BabyBug> WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
01:18 <guru3> Lucifer: banzai!
01:18 <Vanhayes> i say if someone makes it to 65 they should feel happy and fulfilled
01:18 <smoothice> What job Lucifer?
01:18 <guru3> wish i had a job lined up for this summer :(
01:18 <Lucifer> search engine evaluation
01:18 <smoothice> oooh
01:18 <Vanhayes> congrats
01:18 <smoothice> sweet
01:19 <Lucifer> it's only $13.50, but it's work at home, whatever hours I want
01:19 <Lucifer> so I can throttle my hours during breaks in my work at the school :)
01:19 <Lucifer> also, I can probably take all of July off at the school, because I'll have my kids, and I won't need a babysitter
01:19  * Lucifer really wants this job
01:19 <BabyBug> and more time for arma!
01:19 <BabyBug> :)
01:19 <Lucifer> YES
01:19 <Lucifer> more time for arma!  ;)
01:20 <Lucifer> Vanhayes: I think aiming for 65 is a little low
01:20 <Lucifer> I'm aiming for 90, myself
01:20 <Lucifer> not *just* 90, mind you, but being physically capable of most things and be in my 80s
01:20 <BabyBug> I don't see the pointing in aiming for an age. Because then if you don't get to that age you'll be sad.
01:20 <Lucifer> i.e. I don't want old age to disable me until my 90s
01:20 <Lucifer> BabyBug: no, you won't be sad, you'll be dead
01:21 <Lucifer> so you won't even know you failed
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01:21 <Lucifer> best kind of goal you can set, one where you can't know if you fail, but you can know if you succeed
01:21 <BabyBug> Lucifer, If i'm lying in hospital knowing i'm going to die. I'll be sad if i had a target age and hadn't reached it.
01:21 <guru3> i'd be sad anyway
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01:21 <Vanhayes> 65 is good, should have a family, them moved out retired or semi retired
01:21 <guru3> becuase, like, i'm about to die
01:21 <guru3> that's pretty sad
01:21 <Lucifer> ah, well, that might make it a bit saddening
01:21 <Vanhayes> and if you set your goal as 65 every year after that is an accoplishment
01:22 <BabyBug> guru3, that'd just mean you haven't lived life to it's fullest
01:22 <Lucifer> true, but if you set your goal as, say, 80, you'd tend to take better care of yourself when you're younger
01:22 <guru3> yeah, not likely for me
01:22 <Lucifer> heh
01:22 <Lucifer> "You have been judged as having had a worthless existence"
01:22 <Lucifer> "Is that you, mom?"
01:23 <Vanhayes> i take pretty good care of myself
01:23  * Lucifer loves Red Dwarf
01:23 <guru3> does anyone still use alta-vista?
01:23 <Lucifer> not me
01:23 <Lucifer> never did, in fact
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01:23 <BabyBug> I don't really care when i die. I'm happy i've done everything i want so far!
01:23 <BabyBug> alta-vista is?
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01:23 <Lucifer> old skool search engine
01:23 <Lucifer> smoothice is just a class, poor guy
01:23  * Lucifer is a namespace
01:24 <guru3> altavista uses yahoo search
01:24 <guru3> bah
01:24 <Lucifer> no wait
01:24  * Lucifer is a global variable, because global variables are EVIL!
01:24 <guru3> what other search engines are there?
01:24 <Lucifer> msn
01:24 <BabyBug> google
01:24 <guru3> besides the big 3
01:24 <Lucifer> lots of specialty search engines
01:24 <BabyBug> alltheweb
01:24 <Lucifer> mediawiki has a search engine in it :)
01:24 <BabyBug> lycos
01:24  * Vanhayes just died of malenoma at age 80 as a russian 
01:25 <Lucifer> northern lights still running?
01:25 <BabyBug> as in a movie? or the things in the sky?
01:25 <BabyBug> They're beautiful!!
01:25 <Lucifer> search engine named after the "things in the sky" phenomenon
01:25 <Lucifer> you can see them from wales?
01:25 <Lucifer> heh, quote from Red Dwarf:
01:25 <BabyBug> No. But you can from Finland.
01:26 <Lucifer> "Transmit in all known languages, including Welsh:  We surrender!"
01:26 <Vanhayes> is welsh really a language?
01:26 <guru3> yes
01:26 <BabyBug> Yes it's really a bloody language!
01:26 <Lucifer> no, it's more like a noise
01:26 <guru3> and i can't think of any other search engines to submit to
01:26 <Lucifer> it's the language all the adults in the charlie brown cartoons speak
01:26 <Vanhayes> won won won won
01:26 <BabyBug> Vanhayes, http://cy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hafan
01:27 <BabyBug> Some example welsh text for ya :P
01:27  * Lucifer is still sore in weird places
01:27 <BabyBug> rough one nighters?
01:27 <Lucifer> heh, yeah
01:27 <Lucifer> #luke-jrisanasshat
01:28 <guru3> think i'm out of stuff to do today
01:28 <guru3> good night
01:28 <BabyBug> night
01:43 <BabyBug> Lucifer, armabot needs ops *dusts off her halo*
01:43 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o armabot] by ChanServ
01:43 <BabyBug> :)
01:43 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
01:43 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle, last build 69335 secs ago: failed Distcheck Installcheck
01:43 <armabuilder> linux-server: idle, last build 53983 secs ago: build successful
01:44 <BabyBug> I really don't get how a build bot is actually going to help in anyway whatso ever
01:58 <luke-jr> eh
01:58 <luke-jr> ]later tell compguygene hey, I never said ANYTHING about stability with my zones v2 testing..
01:58 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
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02:02 <smoothice> #seen sobeoit
02:02 <smoothice> #seen sobeit
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02:25 <jaded6> is it actually utterly empty here or am i lagging?
02:25 <BabyBug> There's just no one talking
02:25 <jaded6> whoaa
02:25 <jaded6> hey there bug ;)
02:26 <BabyBug> Unfortunately i'm the only nice person in here 8-)
02:26 <jaded6> lol
02:27 <jaded6> the definition of nice has to be revised then
02:27 <Vanhayes> i thought you didnt like anyone
02:27 <jaded6> i see how it is now
02:27 <BabyBug> Vanhayes, That's because they're not nice
02:27 <jaded6> so no one wanted to start a convo :/
02:27 <BabyBug> except zman, i like him. But he's not here
02:28 <BabyBug> and Lucifer, i like him. But he's not nice either.
02:28 <Vanhayes> ya but thats his charm
02:28 <jaded6> no one else but z and lucifer?
02:28 <jaded6> im heartbroken bug
02:28 <BabyBug> no one else
02:28 <BabyBug> So who are yooh?
02:29 <jaded6> telling you my name on tron would defeat the purpose of me using an alias
02:29 <jaded6> wouldn't it lol
02:29 <BabyBug> Yes it would. So how about you just stop using an alias?
02:29 <Lucifer> using an alias would defeat the purpose of joining #armagetron to talk about the game, wouldn't it?
02:29 <jaded6> but im not here to talk about the game, lucifer :)
02:29  * Lucifer was told this weekend that he's very nice
02:29 <zurd> lmao @ lucifer
02:29  * Lucifer sticks his tongue out at BabyBug
02:30 <jaded6> lol depends on who told you that
02:30  * Lucifer pulls his tongue back before she can grab it
02:30 <BabyBug> Lucifer, i see you're still yet to understand a womans logic
02:30 <Lucifer> heh, girl we were talking about earlier
02:30 <Lucifer> in a different channel
02:30 <BabyBug> So jaded6, who are you?
02:31 <jaded6> there are more interesting topics than my name, bug
02:31 <Vanhayes> not really, pretty quiet in here
02:31 <BabyBug> not many people call me bug
02:31 <BabyBug> *thinks*
02:31 <jaded6> then contribute van >:(
02:31 <Vanhayes> how many people call you baby?
02:31 <jaded6> shit
02:31 <BabyBug> i could just kick you though. That'd be much for fun than thinking!
02:31 <jaded6> so they call you baby?
02:31 <BabyBug> s/for/more/
02:31 <jaded6> lol you could, but whats the point in that?
02:32 <BabyBug> It'd remove the thing annoying me
02:32 <Vanhayes> #roulette
02:32 <jaded6> and the thing that bothered starting a convo here
02:32 <@armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
02:33 <BabyBug> And then became a complete and utter attention seeker by revealing you know me, yet refuse to say who you are
02:33 <jaded6> i never said i know you, bug
02:33 <jaded6> scroll up lol
02:33 <jaded6> for all you know i may not even know what tron is :/
02:33 <jaded6> what is tron, btw?
02:33 <zurd> #roulette
02:33 <@armabot> zurd: *click*
02:33 <Vanhayes> <jaded6> telling you my name on tron would defeat the purpose of me using an alias
02:34 <Vanhayes> that implies you know about it
02:34 <jaded6> i may just uhhh
02:34 <zurd> hehe
02:34 <jaded6> k i'll eat my words lol ;(
02:36 <BabyBug> So your tron name is?
02:37 <smoothice> dlh: I just recorded some bugs on a server and I want to fast forward to the very end of the recording because that's when the bug was. However, I don't know what the time was at that point. Is there a way to check the tottal time?
02:37 <jaded6> watch the entire thing and time it :o
02:38 <smoothice> there must be an easier way?
02:38 <smoothice> wrtlprnft: any ideas? ^
02:38 <jaded6> well the way i see it, you're probably spending the same amount of time if not more by looking for alternative ways than if you just watch it
02:38 <smoothice> but it's got to be approximately 30 minutes worth
02:38 <smoothice> I cannot watch that through
02:39 <jaded6> sucks :/
02:39 <jaded6> noob here, can't answer ya
02:40 <dlh> smoothice there is a way
02:40 <smoothice> :D
02:40 <BabyBug> #n9
02:40 <@armabot> BabyBug: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (0/16):
02:40 <BabyBug> :@
02:40 <smoothice> whoa
02:40 <smoothice> you made those servers?
02:41 <smoothice> nexus9?
02:41 <jaded6> lol
02:41 <smoothice> those are yours?
02:41 <BabyBug> No i never made those servers
02:41 <smoothice> lol k
02:41 <dlh> smoothice: tail <recording.aarec>
02:41 <jaded6> the admins there are wiped off the face of hte earth
02:41 <dlh> Look for something like “T 899 ...”
02:41 <dlh> 899 is the time
02:41 <BabyBug> no they're no jaded6...Now who the fuck are you....
02:41 <smoothice> T 1536
02:41 <smoothice> :D
02:41 <smoothice> thanks dlh
02:41 <BabyBug> not*
02:42 <jaded6> they're not? how many n9's do you see hanging around nowadays
02:42 <BabyBug> Quite alot on KDX
02:42 <jaded6> lol i meant on tron?
02:42  * jaded6 doesn't know what KDX is :/
02:42 <BabyBug> You said off the face of the earth
02:42 <jaded6> lol
02:42 <jaded6> alright we're being technical now? ;(
02:43 <BabyBug> If repeating what you said is complicated enough to fall under "technical" for you then i guess we are
02:43 <Lucifer> smoothice: you can fast forward through it, I forget the keys for that, but you can
02:43 <Lucifer> HOWEVER
02:43 <jaded6> oh here comes hte however
02:43 <Lucifer> the game has to run every simulation step, so you can only go as fast as the game can do that
02:43 <BabyBug> Lucifer, he knows he can fast forwarded. He needed to know what time to fast forward too.
02:43 <Lucifer> on some computers, fast forward is actually only as fast as regular playback :)
02:44 <Lucifer> well, he should have watched when the bug showed itself, because there should have been a time on his cockpit
02:44 <Lucifer> if he knows an approximate time, he can fast forward to that and see if that's it
02:44 <jaded6> you knew what i meant bug :)
02:44 <Lucifer> use your memory, it's just like going through a movie
02:45 <BabyBug> Well he knew it was at the end of the recording. So he needed to know the total time, so he could fast forward just before the end
02:45 <BabyBug> Silly!!
02:45 <BabyBug> and then he can see the bug
02:45 <jaded6> putty
02:45 <Lucifer> he also knew it was approximately 30 minutes long, so he can fast forward to 29 minutes, silly
02:45 <Lucifer> I'm not in the habit of saying things that are *that* obvious
02:45 <BabyBug> yes you are :P
02:45 <Lucifer> am not
02:45 <BabyBug> am too
02:46 <Lucifer> it's possible that as son as he starts the recording, he'll get a display showing him the total time, but I don't remember
02:46 <dlh> He now knows it is 1536 seconds long...
02:46 <Lucifer> how does he know that?
02:46 <BabyBug> *face palms*
02:46 <dlh> tail <recording.aarec>
02:46 <Vanhayes> #g 1536 seconds in minutes
02:46 <dlh> Look at the last time
02:46 <@armabot> Vanhayes: 1536 seconds = 25.6 minutes
02:46 <Lucifer> [20:40] <dlh> smoothice: tail <recording.aarec>  <--- ahhhh, he did that
02:47  * Lucifer was only scanning the channel, not reading individual comments
02:47 <BabyBug> So now it sinks in that everything you said was pointless? xD
02:47 <Lucifer> #kick BabyBug yeah
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02:47  * Lucifer has to keep his "not nice" reputation
02:47 <BabyBug> lol
02:48 <luke-jr> BabyBug: kick him back!
02:48 <luke-jr> <><
02:48 <BabyBug> #kick luke-jr but i don't like being predictable
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02:49  * BabyBug hugs Lucifer 
02:49 <zurd> luke-jr ping
02:49  * Lucifer hugs BabyBug back (you really are 18 or older, right?)
02:49 <BabyBug> Yes i'm really really 18
02:49 <Vanhayes> creepy
02:49 <Lucifer> (oh yeah, she's a fat old hairy man pretending to be an internet lesbian)
02:50 <BabyBug> ask Lizmatic... she knows i look "old" (her words not mine" >.<
02:50 <Lucifer> yeah, but she's young too, so what does she know?
02:50 <Lucifer> er, that didn't come out quite right
02:50 <BabyBug> she's older than me!!
02:51 <Vanhayes> better to look older youger so you can level off later on
02:51 <Lucifer> long as you don't get a wildly over-inflated ego about it
02:51  * Vanhayes looks 5 years older than he is for about 10 years now
02:51  * Lucifer has been told he looks younger than his 34 years
02:51 <BabyBug> I'd say you look good for your age. But no younger
02:52 <Vanhayes> used to be nice looking 20 at 15 but now i get 25-26ish
02:52 <BabyBug> not*
02:52  * zurd is 16 O.o
02:52 <Lucifer> I'm different in person, pictures only get part of the story
02:52 <Vanhayes> once got a girl who said i looked 32
02:52 <Lucifer> I also tend to wear bandanas and stuff, clothes that people my age don't generally wear
02:52 <BabyBug> Vanhayes, pic? :D
02:53 <Vanhayes> i think she just wanted me to be older than her though, she was 31
02:53 <Lucifer> Vanhayes: you're somewheres around 18 now, right?
02:53 <Vanhayes> not on this computer
02:53 <BabyBug> hrmph
02:53 <Vanhayes> im 20 now
02:53 <Vanhayes> 18 when i left for out west
02:53 <Lucifer> really?  I thought you were 15 when I met you, and I haven't known you for 5 years, I don't think....
02:53 <Vanhayes> ya you have
02:53 <Lucifer> ok, I guess I have, haha
02:54 <Vanhayes> hmm, no i was 16 i think
02:54 <Vanhayes> 4 years anyway
02:54 <Vanhayes> oh how the time flys
02:54 <Lucifer> no shit, man
02:54  * Lucifer was a kid back then too, still thought his wife was cool
02:54 <BabyBug> lol
02:55 <BabyBug> Being a kid was cool
02:56 <Vanhayes> 18 is still a kid
02:56 <BabyBug> It really doesn't feel like it
02:56 <BabyBug> :P
02:57 <Vanhayes> well not a kid, but i learned alot more in 2 years away alone than i did most of the time i was at home
02:57 <BabyBug> I moved out of home 2 years ago already :P
02:58 <BabyBug> my kids days are done :P
02:58 <BabyBug> kid*
03:00 <luke-jr> #quote add "<Lucifer> Vanhayes: you're somewheres around 18 now, right? <Vanhayes> not on this computer"
03:00 <@armabot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.  Quote #92 added.
03:00 <Vanhayes> boo
03:00 <Vanhayes> out of context
03:00 <luke-jr> :D
03:01 <BabyBug> ewwwww
03:01 <BabyBug> that's just wrong
03:03 <Vanhayes> #quote search pedo
03:03 <@armabot> Vanhayes: 1 found: #21: "<Luke-Jr_work__> btw, pedophile is good"
03:03 <luke-jr> wd, you found one of the out-of-context Luke quotes
03:03 <Vanhayes> one of so very many
03:03 <Vanhayes> #quote search turkey
03:04 <BabyBug> i struggle to see how that could be used in context
03:04 <@armabot> Vanhayes: 1 found: #38: "<GodTodd> hayes jerks off turkeys?"
03:04 <luke-jr> BabyBug: we were discussing the literal meanings of words
03:04 <Vanhayes> #dict pedophile
03:04 <@armabot> Vanhayes: wn and gcide responded: wn: pedophile n : an adult who is sexually attracted to children [syn: {paedophile}]; gcide: pedophile \pe"do*phile`\ (P[=e]"d[-o]*f[imac]l) n. A person who has pedophilia. Syn: pedophiliac. [PJC]
03:04 <luke-jr> "pedophile" literally means a person who loves children
03:05 <Vanhayes> used to mean that, now it means something else
03:05 <BabyBug> luke-jr, is that just what your daddy told you? xD
03:05 <luke-jr> literal
03:05 <luke-jr> "pedo" = child
03:05 <luke-jr> "-phile" = one who loves (prefix)
03:06 <Vanhayes> wait are you in welsh land right now BabyBug ?
03:06 <BabyBug> Of course
03:07 <Vanhayes> isnt it like 4 in the morning there?
03:07 <BabyBug> 2am
03:07 <BabyBug> elen's being a bitch, otherwise i'd be snuggled up in bed :)
03:08 <Vanhayes> ah ok 2 am isnt that bad then, was going to kick you if it was 4
03:08 <luke-jr> civ?
03:08 <BabyBug> heh, i used to have a terrible sleep pattern. Up till 7am, sleep 2 hours :P
03:09 <luke-jr> BabyBug: sound like BP!
03:09 <Vanhayes> ya, i was just up for about 40 hours untill i crashed for 15 yesterday
03:09 <Vanhayes> no real reason why either, just couldnt sleep
03:09 <BabyBug> BP?
03:11 <Vanhayes> no idea
03:11 <luke-jr> bipolar disorder
03:12 <luke-jr> aka manic depression
03:12 <BabyBug> :|
03:12 <Vanhayes> good song
03:12 <luke-jr> …
03:12 <BabyBug> How does that sound like manic depression? lol
03:12 <luke-jr> no sleep
03:12 <Vanhayes> insomneia?
03:12 <luke-jr> oft associated w/ mania
03:12 <BabyBug> it's called a baby, not freaking manic depression :P
03:12 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: no, that's different
03:13 <luke-jr> BabyBug: oh, that
03:13 <luke-jr> that's different too
03:13 <luke-jr> mania would be if you don't *need* the sleep :p
03:13 <Vanhayes> how is staying up and not sleeping different than insomnia?
03:13 <Vanhayes> sounds like the definition of it
03:13 <sinewav> manic episode
03:13 <sinewav> that's the diff
03:13 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: insomnia is INABILITY to sleep, despite a need for it
03:14 <sinewav> insomnicas are not manic
03:14 <luke-jr> and absense of need for sleep is only one symptom of mania
03:15  * sinewav unfortunately knows about mania.
03:15 <Vanhayes> well i was tired just didnt want to sleep untill i knew i wouldnt wake up till a reasonably hour
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03:19 <luke-jr> wtf was that]
03:21 <sinewav> troll?
03:21 <luke-jr> …?
03:21 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: civ⁇
03:21 <sinewav> what was wtf?
03:21 <luke-jr> Lucifer: civ?>?
03:21 <luke-jr> sinewav: [21:18:41] <-- jaded6 has left this server ("Java user signed off").
03:21 <luke-jr> sinewav: that guy
03:22 <Vanhayes> nah, im about to head to bed here soon
03:22 <sinewav> wnyone know who it was? or some random dude?
03:22 <Vanhayes> i think he plays arma, and i think he thought we would know who he was so he used an alias
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03:28 <Vanhayes> #night
03:28 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
03:29 <smoothice> bye Vanhayes
03:32 <Lucifer> luke-jr: no civ tonight, sorry
03:32 <Lucifer> my energy and attention is focused on this test which, if I pass, means I have a job :)
03:35 <Lucifer> insomnia is a symptom in several of those "disorders", including depression and ADD/ADHD
03:35 <Lucifer> but it is also a disorder on its own, the only problem is that it's most commonly associated with depression, since depression is the most common disorder
03:35 <sinewav> disorder? it's a way of life!
03:35 <Lucifer> occasional bouts with insomnia aren't unhealthy, though, because it can be caused by environmental factors (caffeine being a common one)
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03:36 <sinewav> But don't insomnicas feel tired?
03:36 <Lucifer> also, to be considered insomnia, it only has to be "can't fall asleep within 15 minutes of laying down after a regular day"
03:36 <Lucifer> no, to be insomnia, you don't have to feel tired
03:36 <sinewav> that's a pretty narrow margin
03:36 <Lucifer> "normal" behavior is that after a 15-18 hour day, when you lay down, you should fall asleep within about 15 minutes
03:37 <Lucifer> anything longer than that is insomnia
03:37 <Lucifer> obviously it is characterized by degrees, because if you're up for 2 extra hours (like I am, most of the time), that's worse than taking 30 minutes to fall asleep
03:37 <Lucifer> waking up patterns are part of it too, iirc.  An insomniac generally wakes up at regular times as well
03:38 <Lucifer> that's one of the things that makes it so bad, because there's a low-lying sleep deprivation that's constant
03:38 <sinewav> You're describing my life.
03:38 <Lucifer> but you can still be an insomniac who drifts, which is what I do
03:38 <Lucifer> I think, however, that some people just don't fit in the 24-hour day that we have
03:38 <Lucifer> I think I fit a 30 hour day much better, and comfortably
03:39 <sinewav> that's probaby me.
03:39 <Lucifer> that's one of the reasons I prefer working from home on my own schedule :)
03:39 <Lucifer> I fall into a 30 hour day then, and have no problems with it
03:39 <sinewav> I could probably live comfortably with the mars rver team.
03:39 <sinewav> rover*
03:40 <Lucifer> yeah, me too ;)
03:40 <sinewav> they have to be on mars time
03:40 <Lucifer> although I hear they have lots of problems with it
03:40 <Lucifer> it drove my ex crazy that I preferred a 30 hour day
03:40 <Lucifer> of course, she was already crazy, but that's beside the point
03:40 <sinewav> I was about to say...
03:40 <sinewav> `;)
03:40 <sinewav> Lucifer: don't mean to bother you while studying but...
03:41 <Lucifer> not studying, relaxing a bit before I start tackling the second part of the test
03:41 <sinewav> did you ever get a chance to check out any of those sound files I made a while back?
03:41 <Lucifer> I haven't yet, I've been really busy trying to get a job
03:41 <Lucifer> once my personal situation achieves some sort of stable equilibrium, I'll be able to put more time into arma
03:41 <sinewav> ok, just checking. I think madmax tried to put them somewhere in bzzr
03:42 <sinewav> yes of course
03:42 <luke-jr> Lucifer: would you be opposed to letting someone else finish up 0.3.1 if you don't have time now?
03:42 <Lucifer> luke-jr: not at all opposed, in fact, I'd love to see it happen
03:42 <luke-jr> i c
03:42 <luke-jr> what needs to be done? :o
03:43 <luke-jr> honestly, to the best of my knowledge, 0.3.1 should simply be branch, make it build, release XD
03:43 <Lucifer> pretty much, yeah
03:44 <luke-jr> hm
03:44 <Lucifer> you can, if you wish, merge from the trunk anything before the protobuf merge, which includes utf8
03:44 <luke-jr> 0.3.1 is pre-protobuf? :o
03:44 <Lucifer> I was working on converting all the windows .bat files to python scripts
03:44 <Lucifer> yes, 0.3.1 is pre-protobuf
03:44 <luke-jr> hum
03:44 <Lucifer> it needs to be released that way, too
03:44 <luke-jr> can I just build a few binaries and call it done, then start on 0.3.2? :p
03:44 <Lucifer> so, in my perfect world, the work I was doing would be finished
03:45 <Lucifer> well yeah, that's the basic idea, the problem I had was in building windows binaries
03:45 <luke-jr> ah
03:45 <Lucifer> it's possible that has been fixed and can be released now, if you have someone to do the build
03:45 <luke-jr> buildbot would make 0.3 releases simple to push then?
03:45 <luke-jr> once we have a Windows slaver
03:45 <Lucifer> the procedure you should follow is "Build an autopackage, get people to sanity check it.  Get a windows build sanity checked, and a mac os x build"
03:46 <luke-jr> so we don't sanity check OS X builds? ;)
03:46 <Lucifer> Then, if everything passes the sanity check (no more than a few days to a week total), post a tarball *from that revision*, tag the revision of course, and release
03:46 <Lucifer> heh, of course sanity check the mac os x builds, but if you don't have what you feel is sufficient sanity check for that particular build, release anyway
03:47 <Lucifer> we only get as much sanity checking as people are willing to put in, so if people complain, you can always say "Where were you when I asked for sanity checking?  You'[ll just have to wait until 0.3.2"
03:47 <Lucifer> any changes you make in the branch should be merged back to the trunk, if still relevant (they may not be, the trunk has moved quite a bit since I branched 0.3.1)
03:48 <Lucifer> but if you convert all windows .bat files to python scripts, you can build a windows release with wine
03:48 <dlh> changes were merged back in a few times, there might have been some more added
03:48 <luke-jr> Lucifer: wine? :x
03:48 <Lucifer> wine, yes
03:48 <sinewav> :o
03:48 <luke-jr> I wish mingw didn't give me a ton of cryptic errors
03:48 <Lucifer> preferred over cross-compiling because it builds identically to building in windows
03:49 <luke-jr> cross-compiling doesn't?
03:49 <Lucifer> not guaranteed, but it's theoretically possible
03:49 <Lucifer> wine is guaranteed because it uses the same binaries for the build system that are used in windows
03:50 <Lucifer> we need more testing of cross-compiling before we can release that way, but I would love to get to a point where that's how we release
03:50 <Lucifer> if only because it means we can automate about 90% of the release building on one machine
03:50 <luke-jr> only 90%? O.o
03:51 <Lucifer> a basic release for any 0.3.x release, imo, requires at least an autopackage for linux, a windows installer, and a .dmg for mac os x, and a source tarball
03:51 <Lucifer> well, the other 10% is the mac os x build
03:51 <luke-jr> oh right
03:51 <luke-jr> OS X
03:51 <Lucifer> if the *point* of a 0.3.x release is to test linux distribution packages, then obviously *for that release*, we'd need an additional package that's to be tested ;)
03:52 <Lucifer> and we need releases like that so that when we reach the next stable version, we'll have whatever package support we need already tested and in place in our automation scripts
03:52 <Lucifer> but 0.3.1 isn't such a release
03:53 <luke-jr> would be nice to just branch, change the version, and tell buildbot to make everything XD
03:53 <Lucifer> it would be, but it'll take awhile before we have that infrastructure in place
03:54 <Lucifer> also, in order to build a release with buildbot, I'd prefer to be able to give buildbot a tarball that should be used by all builders rather than having it do a scm retrieval
03:54 <Lucifer> but snapshot sanity checking builds are certainly within the realm of what we can expect from the buildbot
03:54 <luke-jr> it could probably make the tarball, then use it for the rest/
03:54 <luke-jr> ?
03:54 <Lucifer> don't know
03:55 <Lucifer> we can write plugins for it, however
03:55 <Lucifer> so we can get there, with enough work in the system
03:55 <Lucifer> I'd rather focus on making the buildbot a build testing platform for now, then move on to having it generate nightly builds
03:55 <Lucifer> then move on to having it generate packages for many systems, also as nightly builds
03:55 <Lucifer> when we have all that in place, we can worry about having it build releases :)
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04:39 <luke-jr> quit it,guys
04:40 <Lucifer> quit what?
04:40 <luke-jr> reconnecting ;)
04:44 <zurd> bye bye nubs
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04:47 <Pathetique> ct|kyle: why does armahacktron have to be so tricky when trying to do scripted stuff?
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04:51 <Pathetique> roflroflrofl
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04:55 <Lucifer> well, this is easy work
04:55  * Lucifer likes it
04:55 <luke-jr> ?
04:55 <Lucifer> this search engine evaluation stuff
04:55 <Lucifer> given a query and a page, rate the relevance of the page to the query
04:56 <Lucifer> these ratings are used as an input to the search algorithm
04:56 <luke-jr> o
04:56 <Lucifer> hey, if you're looking for work, maybe I can link you to these guys
04:56 <Lucifer> didn't you say you were looking for work?
04:56 <luke-jr> pay decent?
04:56 <luke-jr> not actively, no
04:56 <Lucifer> $13.50/hour
04:56 <luke-jr> i c
04:56 <Lucifer> so I guess decent is relative here
04:57 <luke-jr> plenty of $25+/hr work I can do when I get time :p
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07:57 <armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-zone-bouncing] r899 implement zZoneInfluenceItemBounce
08:18 <Lucifer> #math calc 134250969-134250735
08:18 <armabot> Lucifer: 234
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09:01 <armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-zone-bouncing] r900 parse and handle validators
09:25 <Lucifer> #math calc 134250969-134250777
09:25 <armabot> Lucifer: 192
09:26 <Lucifer> hey, not bad, I started with 270
10:23 <Lucifer> #math calc 134250969-134250806
10:23 <armabot> Lucifer: 163
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12:28 <guru3> wish i understood a bit more about launchpad
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13:16 <armabot> armacommits: [themes] r1 Initial import
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14:56 <nsh22> heyheyhey
15:00 <Concord> guru3, if you've got the time could Concord@sitethemelaunchpad be approved?
15:01 <guru3> approved
15:02 <joda_bot> guru3: ?!!?
15:03 <joda_bot> Concord: what is that pseudo email address thing ?
15:03 <Concord> thanks
15:03 <nsh22> for athentication maybeh?
15:03 <Concord> joda, he got the idea, didn't he?
15:04 <nsh22> so guru3 needs to approve any new authentication requests?
15:04 <guru3> https://launchpad.net/~armagetronad-web/
15:04 <dlh>  /team Negative
15:04 <guru3> any project admin can
15:05 <nsh22> im thinkin about doing that for nw
15:05 <joda_bot> guru3: so we're just taking lack's proposal and go ahead ?
15:07 <joda_bot> guru3: the forums could use the default theme until the design choice has been made ... I guess it won't hurt to have the default theme installed as an alternative later
15:07 <guru3> not really
15:07 <guru3> it just seemed like a good idea to setup a repository
15:07 <joda_bot> default phpbb3 theme
15:07 <joda_bot> guru3: I agree with that :D
15:07 <joda_bot> ok
15:08 <Concord> guru3, I think durka wants to be approved as well ;)
15:08 <joda_bot> independand of design, I'd like to make a "lo-fi" theme by just reducing the subsilver pro code (keeping the style)
15:08 <guru3> durka has been approved
15:08 <joda_bot> later we can then just skin the lo-fi like the usual skin
15:09 <nsh22> guru3: how would i go about getting NW as an authentication thing (i.e. nsh22@nw)
15:09 <guru3> now at least we have a place to start
15:09 <guru3> nsh22: ask me and have a good reason for it
15:09  * nsh22 is thinking of a good reason...
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15:11 <zurd> i think todays gonna be a good day :)
15:11 <nsh22> its not
15:11 <nsh22> lol
15:11 <zurd> :(
15:11 <zurd> >.<
15:11 <ct|kyle> no it is not
15:11 <nsh22> :D
15:11 <joda_bot> zurd: just keep the happy mood and spread it
15:11 <joda_bot> nsh22: do you need some sunshine ?
15:11 <joda_bot> the sun is shining here :D
15:11 <zurd> lmao, near imposiable in here
15:11 <ct|kyle> I got a 3-5 page paper due in 4.5 hours. I only have about 1/4 of a page
15:11 <zurd> :O
15:12 <joda_bot> ct|kyle: O.o what about
15:12 <ct|kyle> Alfred Binet
15:12 <zurd> who?
15:12 <joda_bot> #g Alred Binet
15:12 <zurd> o.O
15:12 <ct|kyle> #google Alfred Binet
15:12 <armabot> ct|kyle: Search took 0.26 seconds: Alfred Binet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Binet>; Human Intelligence: Alfred Binet: <http://www.indiana.edu/~intell/binet.shtml>; Psychology History: <http://www.muskingum.edu/~psych/psycweb/history/binet.htm>; Alfred Binet (www.whonamedit.com): <http://www.whonamedit.com/doctor.cfm/1299.html>; A Science (2 more messages)
15:12 <joda_bot> ...
15:12 <nsh22> guru3: ummm ok.... could we (nw) be put on the authentication thingy. we are a clan with a number of growing servers and not all of us have a forums or ct account
15:12 <ct|kyle> g is google calc
15:13 <dlh> nsh22: you don't need a authority name to use authentication
15:13 <dlh> a short*
15:13 <nsh22> i know
15:13 <nsh22> wow i just had epic fps, like 200... then it came back to reality and went to 50...
15:14 <joda_bot> ct|kyle: ah ok
15:14 <zurd> ok, what do we (nw) need?
15:14 <joda_bot> ct|kyle: leave IRC and work :D
15:14 <zurd> to do so
15:14 <dlh> Do you have a website?
15:14 <zurd> what type of website?
15:14 <ct|kyle> joda_bot: no I think I can get it done
15:14 <nsh22> yes but we dont have acess to the files (its on one of those freeforum thingies)
15:14 <ct|kyle> I'll just ignore IRC
15:14 <dlh> I kind where you can host some php pages
15:15 <nsh22> aw...
15:16 <zurd> hrm....
15:16 <nsh22> well we could move it to te vps...
15:16 <joda_bot> dlh: I kind of *know* where ...
15:16 <joda_bot> ?
15:16 <zurd> thats a 50$ transfer fee
15:16 <nsh22> or just host some php pages there:P
15:16 <dlh> A kind*
15:16 <nsh22> zurd: ... ill think of a way
15:16 <joda_bot> dlh: ah ok
15:17 <zurd> nsh22: its all on you at this point :>
15:17 <dlh> nsh22, zurd: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Authentication_Server
15:17 <nsh22> zurd: if we can do a mysql backup (and you have all the files for the style we have) we can run it off the vps, but we would ened a domain name...
15:18 <nsh22> dlh: ty
15:18 <joda_bot> nsh22:have a look at dyndns.org
15:18 <zurd> i have the domain name
15:18 <zurd> nightwalkers.info
15:18 <nsh22> that make me happy...
15:18 <nsh22> but we will need a dyndns tho...
15:19 <zurd> we NEED a dns??
15:19 <nsh22> wait...
15:19 <nsh22> joda_bot: would we need a dns if we have a vps and a domain name already?
15:20 <nsh22> zurd: btw, whos paying for domain?
15:20 <dlh> Use the dns services provided by your registrar
15:20 <nsh22> what registrar?
15:20 <nsh22> for the vps?
15:20 <dlh> Where did you register your domain name?
15:20 <nsh22> zurd:
15:20 <zurd> angel bought it as a gift to me, then gave it to me, costs 98c a year
15:21 <joda_bot> nsh22: you don't even need a vps neccessarily
15:21 <nsh22> but where is it from (which site)
15:21 <zurd> godaddy.com
15:21 <joda_bot> I just use my router to host jedimasters.de
15:21 <nsh22> joda_bot: well we have one so we might as well use it
15:22 <joda_bot> you either can point the domain at the IP-Adress of you vps, but it would need a static IP
15:22 <nsh22> i think it is static...
15:22 <nsh22> luke-jr: is the vps's ip static?
15:22 <joda_bot> or you can setup nightwalker.info as an alias of nightwalkervps.dnydns.org and then run an dynamic dns client on the vps
15:23 <nsh22> free? lol
15:23 <joda_bot> I used the second way to host jedimasters.de on my router.
15:23 <nsh22> HAPPY SAINT PATRICKS DAY!!
15:24 <joda_bot> is it that already ? :-)
15:24 <nsh22> but you have to pay for the dns client?
15:24 <joda_bot> huh ? no fees
15:24 <nsh22> sweet
15:24 <joda_bot> only for the nightwalker.info domain
15:24 <nsh22> iight
15:25 <zurd> hmmm
15:25 <nsh22> this is lookin good :P
15:25 <zurd> what if we upgraded our forums to a second level hosting plan?
15:25 <nsh22> ima start this process...
15:26 <nsh22> zurd: it only lasts for a little while, and with hosting it on our vps, we can control everything
15:26 <nsh22> ill confer with smooth on the matter as well...
15:27 <zurd> yeah, but only thing im worried about is the fees to transfer, or the hassle to get every1 switched over...
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15:27 <zurd> it'll wind up good, or very very bad
15:28 <nsh22> zurd: im checking now to see if we can do a mysql backup on ours site
15:29 <zurd> umk
15:30 <nsh22> dammit...
15:30 <nsh22> we cant do a backup...
15:31 <dlh> nsh22: you can have forums.<yourdomain>.info go to your forums as it does now, and everything else go to your vps
15:32 <zurd> :O
15:32 <joda_bot> dlh: they won't have a full fledged dns ... I'm not sure if you can setup subdomains with dyndns.org
15:32 <nsh22> dlh: ... iom not sure if that would help us. what we are ttryiong to do (ultamitly) is be able to get php pages to work on our site so we can do authenication)
15:32 <joda_bot> creating subdomains on godaddy might work
15:33 <dlh> Do you want auth to be tied to your forums?
15:34 <nsh22> i beleive so..
15:34 <nsh22> or atleast with a member list on our site
15:34 <guru3> getting closer... i almost have imap
15:34 <guru3> only been at it around 3 hours
15:36 <nsh22> it says i need to pay for dns...
15:37 <joda_bot> nsh22: if you try to register a domain name, yes
15:37 <nsh22> no, its already registered...
15:37 <joda_bot> nsh22: not if you just create a free dynamic dns on one of their subdomains
15:38 <nsh22> ah thats what im douing now...
15:38 <joda_bot> nsh22: with a static ip of the vps, you don't need dyndns
15:38 <nsh22> o0
15:38 <nsh22> so...
15:38 <nsh22> i dont need to get it?
15:38 <zurd> xD
15:38 <joda_bot> depends on the vps you use
15:38 <nsh22> lukes
15:38 <zurd> thats a pain off your ass
15:39 <joda_bot> if it has a dynamic ip you need dyndns otherwise you don't
15:39 <nsh22> i already set us up an account  :(
15:39 <nsh22> ok
15:39 <nsh22> so now im really confused...
15:39 <joda_bot> nsh22: dyndns has support to delete accounts I guess :-=
15:39 <nsh22> ..
15:40 <joda_bot> but having a dyndns account won't hurt you :-) just don't give them too much information about you ...
15:40 <joda_bot> email is enough usually :D
15:40 <nsh22> ok, so we have a a vps... we have a static ip (i think)... we have a domain name... now what
15:40 <zurd> o.o
15:41 <joda_bot> ask angel to point the domain to luke's vps (IF luke say that's ok to do
15:41 <dlh> Unless your forums are hosted on your vps, then you will not be able to connect armaauth with them.
15:41 <joda_bot> dlh: they can setup a self maintained authority independand of their forums
15:41 <dlh> right
15:42 <nsh22> dlh: im thinking of just doing a few phpo pageson the vps
15:42 <dlh> Yeah, that would work fine as-well
15:42  * nsh22 thinks smooth might be good at that :P
15:42 <zurd> hehe
15:42 <nsh22> lol
15:42  * zurd this hes only good in html and css
15:43 <nsh22> no he said hes good at  php...
15:43 <zurd> no good at php
15:43 <zurd> NO GOOD
15:43 <nsh22> you or smooth?
15:43 <zurd> O.o
15:43 <zurd> you lost me
15:43 <nsh22>  "zurd this hes only good in html and css" <=== what was that SUPOSSED to say
15:44 <dlh> If you're going to maintain auth manually, not being tied into your forums, then all you will need is http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Earmagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-work/annotate/head%3A/batch//authentication_reference.php
15:44 <zurd> thats a long url o.o
15:45 <nsh22> ...
15:45 <zurd> we need to include and configure that php page to have auth? THATS IT?!
15:45 <nsh22> so we just put that on our vps?
15:45 <nsh22> ...
15:46 <zurd> why did you tell us that 20mins ago?!
15:46 <zurd> >.<
15:46 <zurd> dlh; you da man, nontheless
15:46 <dlh> Basically, yes. It was linked from the wiki page I gave you before.
15:47 <nsh22> "It is written by a php n00b and therefore should be understandable by php n00bs :)"
15:47 <nsh22> lol
15:47 <zurd> ehe
15:48 <zurd> ugh theres like 7 people total playing arma right now >.>
15:48 <nsh22> lol
15:48  * nsh22 is hungry
15:48 <nsh22> imm off to9 get food
15:48  * nsh22 is away: food
15:48 <zurd> iight man, ttyl
15:49 <nsh22> ill be back in like 5 mins
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16:18 <guru3> i think i may just give up on imap
16:19 <nsh22> what is imap?
16:19 <Vanhayes> a new product from apple?
16:19 <guru3> :(
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16:20 <Concord> guru3 is it worth your time to show me how to use bzr&lp?
16:21 <Concord> or is it faster if I just send you the stuff?
16:21 <guru3> well
16:21 <guru3> you should learn
16:21 <guru3> just as i have to :S
16:21 <guru3> on linux?
16:21 <Concord> mac
16:21 <guru3> got bzr installed?
16:21 <Concord> yep
16:21 <BabyBug> Hello =)
16:21 <joda_bot> hi BabyBug
16:21 <guru3> bzr branch lp:address
16:21 <guru3> make changes
16:22 <guru3> bzr commit
16:22 <guru3> bzr push
16:22 <guru3> and then it's on lp
16:22 <guru3> (terminal)
16:22 <Concord> redwood:themes kliges$ bzr push lp:~armagetronad-web/armagetronad/themes
16:22 <Concord> bzr: ERROR: These branches have diverged.  Try using "merge" and then "push".
16:22 <Concord> redwood:themes kliges$
16:22 <guru3> run a bzr merge then
16:23 <guru3> not sure how it could have diverged
16:23 <guru3> given no one has made any changes
16:23 <Concord>  ERROR: Branches have no common ancestor, and no merge base revision was specified.
16:23 <BabyBug> ooo you have a themes branch :)
16:23 <guru3> you started with bzr branch right?
16:23 <Concord> yep
16:23 <guru3> then did commit
16:23 <guru3> and now it wont let you push
16:25 <luke-jr> nsh22: of course
16:26 <Concord> should I be cd'ed in the directory?
16:26 <guru3> yes
16:26 <guru3> i think
16:27 <luke-jr> zurd: probably a good idea to move the forums to the VPS..? :p
16:27 <Concord> ok
16:27 <Concord> No new revisions to push.
16:27 <Concord> got that
16:27 <nsh22> luke-jr: we cant, no backuos
16:28 <nsh22> luke-jr: also, is it possible to put a domain name on the vps then point it to forums?
16:29 <luke-jr> a domain name on the vps? wtf?
16:29 <luke-jr> domain names are abstract registrations, they're not "on" a computer
16:29 <BabyBug> I'm sure he means domain name pointing to the VPS.
16:29 <Concord> success!
16:29 <luke-jr> if it's pointing to the VPS, it's not pointing to the forums…?
16:29 <Concord> I think
16:29 <BabyBug> Oh, i assumed the forums are on the VPS :s my bad
16:30 <luke-jr> nsh22: what do you need backups for?
16:30 <luke-jr> BabyBug: that's the problem I suspect
16:30 <luke-jr> nsh22: did you agree to some terms that allow them to hold your data hostage?
16:30 <nsh22> to put the forums on the vps. dont really want eeryone to reregister and stuff
16:30 <Concord> nope
16:30 <nsh22> luke-jr: idunno, zurd might have
16:30 <Concord> oh yes
16:30 <luke-jr> nsh22: so tell them you're not needing a backup, just moving to another service and want your data to transfer?
16:30 <luke-jr> o
16:31 <Concord> but it put up my .DS_stores also :P
16:31 <nsh22> apparently its a $50 charge to transfer
16:31 <joda_bot> luke-jr: it's a free clan hosting forum thing, they won't release the data for free :D
16:31 <joda_bot> eheh
16:31 <joda_bot> thought so
16:31 <luke-jr> joda_bot: if zurd/nsh22 didn't agree to that, they're holding data hostage
16:32 <luke-jr> joda_bot: can't just take someone's data and refuse to give it to them
16:32 <nsh22> i think elder did when he made the site
16:32 <luke-jr> meh
16:32 <luke-jr> nsh22: how many posts?
16:33 <nsh22> 2800
16:33 <nsh22> Total posts 2800 | Total topics 351 | Total members 103 |
16:34 <BabyBug> Concord, bzr ignore to ignore files you don't want added.
16:34 <Concord> k
16:34 <luke-jr> ouch
16:34 <luke-jr> nsh22: how much would it cost to get backups?
16:34 <nsh22> 50
16:35 <luke-jr> o
16:35 <luke-jr> lame
16:36 <nsh22> yeah
16:37 <nsh22> so maybe get a ubdomain hat oints to the forums offof the vps
16:37 <luke-jr> English?
16:37 <nsh22> could i get a subdomain that points to the foriums while the main domain points to the vps
16:38 <luke-jr> depends on if your forums allows you to point domains at it
16:39 <nsh22> it does
16:39 <nsh22> we already habve the domain pointingat it
16:41 <luke-jr> o
16:41 <luke-jr> that's up to the domain ppl then
16:41 <luke-jr> :p
16:42 <Concord> yay
16:42 <nsh22> but you will allow me to put a domain on the vps?
16:44 <luke-jr> nsh22: where you point your domains is your business :p
16:44 <nsh22> okey dokey
17:09  * nsh22 is away: homework
17:09 <BabyBug> we don't give a fuck!
17:10 <nsh22> :P
17:13 <joda_bot> BabyBug: go do ur own homework :-)
17:13  * joda_bot is doing his
17:14 <BabyBug> I dont get homework anymore...Left school agesss ago, and i don't work :P
17:14 <nsh22> so what do you do?
17:14 <nsh22> :P
17:14 <BabyBug> nothing?
17:14 <BabyBug> drink mainly, hang out
17:14 <nsh22> oh yeah, i forgot...liz
17:15 <luke-jr> nsh22: BabyBug is a waste particle
17:15 <BabyBug> heh no, no liz no more
17:15 <BabyBug> and i am not a waste particle!!
17:15 <nsh22> no?
17:15 <nsh22> what happened to liz?
17:15  * BabyBug kicks luke
17:16 <nsh22> ]alias add kick "echp [$who kicks $1]"
17:16 <ljrbot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
17:16 <joda_bot> BabyBug: fix the wiki then
17:16 <joda_bot> :D
17:16 <nsh22> ]alias add kick "echo [$who kicks $1]"
17:16 <ljrbot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
17:16 <nsh22> ]kick me
17:16 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
17:16 <nsh22> oh...
17:17 <nsh22> ]alias add kicks "echo [$who kicks $1]"
17:17 <ljrbot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
17:17 <nsh22> ]kicks me
17:17 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: "nsh22" is not a valid command.
17:17 <BabyBug> joda_bot, that's not something i'll be able to finish though :P I won't have a computer anymore soon.
17:17 <nsh22> ]alias add kicks "echo $who kicks $1"
17:17 <ljrbot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
17:17 <nsh22> ]kicks me
17:17 <ljrbot> nsh22 kicks me
17:17 <nsh22> :P
17:17 <nsh22> why not?
17:17 <BabyBug> i just won't, stop being a nosey git
17:18 <nsh22> :"(
17:19 <luke-jr> ]alias remove kick
17:19 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
17:19 <luke-jr> nsh22: make me a sandwich
17:20 <ct|kyle> ]luke-jr_work luke-jr
17:20 <nsh22> that i can do
17:20 <ljrbot> ct|kyle: Error: "luke-jr_work" is not a valid command.
17:20 <luke-jr> …
17:20 <nsh22> what you want on it?
17:20 <ct|kyle> :P
17:20 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: f u
17:20 <nsh22> :P
17:20  * nsh22 hands lueka tuna sandwich
17:20 <luke-jr> …
17:21 <luke-jr> nsh22: you're supposed to wait for the
17:21 <luke-jr> sudo make me a sandwich
17:21 <nsh22> oh...
17:21 <ct|kyle> #roulette
17:21 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
17:21  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
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17:21 <joda_bot> BabyBug: any contribution to the wiki is welcome and usually everlasting :D
17:21 <nsh22> epsay
17:22 <ct|kyle> epppuuusssssy
17:22 <luke-jr> eppusi!
17:22 <nsh22> epsy: how are the toilets in france, ive heard their realy bad...
17:23 <luke-jr> nsh22: french people don't use toilets
17:23 <BabyBug> nsh22, that's cause french people don't shave. So the toilets get covered in pubes
17:23 <nsh22> ok, rephrase: how are the holes in the ground
17:24  * ct|kyle banishes BabyBug, by stabbing her repetitively in the eye
17:24 <BabyBug> what did i do? :|
17:24 <ct|kyle> what diden't you do
17:24 <nsh22> LMAO
17:24 <nsh22> i think you meant who
17:24 <nsh22> :P
17:24 <nsh22> jkjjkjkjkjkjkjkjkkjkjkjkjk
17:25 <BabyBug> ...
17:25 <BabyBug> That wasn't nice ='(
17:25 <nsh22> sry
17:25 <ct|kyle> nsh22: you say mv what who
17:25 <nsh22> ??
17:25 -!- Pathetique [n=chatzill@adsl-99-153-140-239.dsl.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
17:26 <nsh22> ok well now that ive made an ass of myself.... ill go do english homework
17:26 -!- nsh22 [n=neal@unaffiliated/nsh22] has quit ["gud bye"]
17:27 <ct|kyle> lol
17:27 <BabyBug> beggin'! beggin yoOOOOOooooOOOOOOOOOoooOOOOOOOOoooooOOOOOOooooooOOOOOoooooooOOOOOOOoooooooooooh
17:28 <armabot> armacommits: [themes] r5 got rid of rivals || [themes] r4 phpbb3 light theme || [themes] r3 ignoring DS store || [themes] r2 conc's initial changes
17:33 <epsy> hi
17:33 <Concord> hi
17:33 <BabyBug> Haaaiii
17:33 <Concord> epsy: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=204884#204884
17:34 <epsy> @title http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=204884#204884
17:34 <teabot> epsy: Armagetron Forums :: View topic - New site theme
17:34 <epsy> yeah?
17:34 <Concord> tank set up a lp
17:34 <epsy> seen that
17:34 <Concord> oh ok
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18:04 <Pathetique> #ping
18:04 <armabot> pong
18:05  * BabyBug throws Pathetique down a well
18:05 <Pathetique> oi
18:06 <Pathetique> thatsnotnice
18:06 <BabyBug> There's water at the bottom
18:06 <BabyBug> Not a hard floor
18:06 <BabyBug> I'm not completely heartless =)
18:09 <luke-jr> meh
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18:10 <epsy> not completely
18:13 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: how much longer till your baby becomes 6 months
18:14 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, 2 days ago
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18:14 <luke-jr> hey gene
18:14 <compguygene> hi
18:14 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: I thought that meant youl were gone from here for good
18:14 <ct|kyle> oi compguygene
18:15 <compguygene> oh...i thought you said that thus far the zones v2 server was stable..as in not crashing?
18:15 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, it meant i could get a child minder while i worked. But i don't have to start work until November now so meh
18:15 <ct|kyle> darn
18:16 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, no need to worry though, i'll be out of your hair soon, won't have a computer much longer :P
18:16 <ct|kyle> yay :P
18:16 <luke-jr> compguygene: no idea, I just made it work
18:16 <luke-jr> I haven't tried to crash it
18:17 <ct|kyle> #si (flagfort)
18:17 <armabot> ct|kyle: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “(flagfort)” at the moment, sorry.
18:17 <luke-jr> bug hunting and fixing is when we start working toward 0.4
18:17 <ct|kyle> #si testing
18:17 <armabot> ct|kyle: Crazy Tronners Sty Testing (Flag fort): Players (0/10):
18:17 <ct|kyle> compguygene: that is zones v2, try crashing it :P
18:17 <epsy> well, we don't have to make it crash either :)
18:18 <ct|kyle> I wish luke-jr could figure out why shape velocity does not work right.
18:20 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: wtf are you doing with shape velocity?
18:20 <luke-jr> trunk doesn't *have* shape velocity stuff
18:20 <luke-jr> I just wrote that in my bouncing branch
18:20 <compguygene> np..
18:21 <compguygene> pathetique is actually doing most of the new server development on my VPS
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18:21 <Pathetique> sweet deal
18:21 <compguygene> i am trying to encourage him to take a shot at trying out a .3 binary that i am setting up
18:22 <Pathetique> ct|kyle: how to obtain edlog.txt?
18:22 <Pathetique> the sty+ct we're using doesn't output it.
18:23 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: you told me that shape->setPosX(tFunction(owner_->Position().x, (owner_->Direction().x * owner_->Speed())));  should set the speed the seconds part of tFunction
18:23 <ct|kyle> Pathetique: it is ladderlog.txt edlog is depreciated
18:24 <ct|kyle> #cfg2 ladder_log_write
18:24 <armabot> ct|kyle: Sorry, no matches :S
18:24 <Pathetique> lolol
18:24 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: yeah
18:24 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: but that moves faster than the player
18:26 <luke-jr> how odd
18:27 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: if I set it to 0 it does better than setting it to the player speed
18:27 <ct|kyle> but the zone looks a little pushy
18:28 <Pathetique> compguygene: how come the shell I'm using is quite laggy?
18:28 <Pathetique> it took about 15 seconds for "cd" to be recognized and executed.
18:29 <Pathetique> 8 seconds for "clear"
18:29 -!- z4chh [n=zach@cpe-75-186-150-159.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
18:29 <luke-jr> Ctrl-L is a faster clear
18:29 <z4chh> hi
18:29 <Pathetique> oic
18:29 <luke-jr> hi z4chh
18:30 <Pathetique> I mean, I know secure data transmission is a lot slower
18:30 <Pathetique> but sometimes it gets ridiculous. lol
18:30 <luke-jr> Pathetique: maybe has something to do with your firewall; it's preventing diagnostics (tracepath)
18:30 <Pathetique> LOL
18:31 <compguygene> i don't know...
18:31 <compguygene> it's not laggy for me?
18:31 <Pathetique> try now luke-jr
18:31 <compguygene> but i use windows/putty
18:31 <Pathetique> but make it quick
18:31 <Pathetique> \my client is sortakindapriated
18:32 <Pathetique> so it might phone home while it has the chance.
18:32 <Pathetique> :P
18:33 <luke-jr> Pathetique: still nope
18:33 <Pathetique> Prolly the router, then.
18:33 <Pathetique> Paranoid Father ftl.
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18:39 <z4chh> i like how the post count and topic count is in hex
18:39 <BabyBug> No you dont
18:39 <z4chh> o rly?
18:40 <BabyBug> Yup
18:40 <BabyBug> It's completely and utterly horrible *glares at guru3*
18:40 <ct|kyle> #base 16 10 136
18:40 <armabot> ct|kyle: 310
18:41 <ct|kyle> see BabyBug IRC works well for those that can't handle hex in their  head
18:43 <luke-jr> lol
18:44 <BabyBug> lame...
18:48 <compguygene> c u all later gtg
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18:55 <ct|kyle> so BabyBug how much longer will we be forced to put up with you?
18:57 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, until whenever my ex decides he wants his laptop back :P
18:59 <Pathetique> LOL
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19:03 <Pathetique> For compiling on linux, the order goes ./bootstrap.sh, then ./configure, and finally make, right?
19:03 -!- armabot [n=armabot@83.243.117.49.dynamic.cablesurf.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
19:04 <BabyBug> right
19:04 <Pathetique> wtf
19:04 -!- armabot [n=armabot@83.243.117.49.dynamic.cablesurf.de] has joined #armagetron
19:04 <BabyBug> Pathetique ?
19:04 <Pathetique> armabot: wb
19:04 <Pathetique> Hmm...hold on...
19:05 <Pathetique> ok, bootstrap runs okay, I guess.
19:06 <Pathetique> Says everything's flagged to be configured and built.
19:06 <BabyBug> wait a sec
19:06 <BabyBug> What are you trying to compile? client or server?
19:06 <Pathetique> 0.2.8-armagetronad-sty-invulnerable
19:07 <BabyBug> So...you're wanting to set up a server?
19:07 <BabyBug> you have all the right configure flags don't you?
19:07 <Pathetique> iunno
19:07 <Pathetique> LOL
19:08 <Pathetique> I don't think sty can be compiled as a client.
19:08 <BabyBug> oh, well when you run ./configure, you have to run it with certain flags to compile the server...
19:08 <Pathetique> oic
19:08 <BabyBug> I don't know what those flags are though
19:08 <Pathetique> Options selected are:
19:08 <BabyBug> So someone else will have to help
19:08 <Pathetique>      Build Regular Game Client: true
19:08 <Pathetique>      Build Dedicated Server: false
19:08 <Pathetique>      Build Master Server: false
19:09 <Pathetique> that makes sense why it won't work, then.
19:09 <Pathetique> Thanks for the help, babybug.
19:09 <BabyBug> #aawiki server
19:10 <Pathetique> ./configure --help will tell us.
19:10 <armabot> BabyBug: Search took 0.17 seconds: Server Administration - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Server_Administration>; Servers - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Servers>; Server Administration Guide - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Server_Administration_Guide>; FAQ - (3 more messages)
19:11 <BabyBug> wrtlprnft, are you making armabots computer do lots of work?
19:16 <Pathetique> Maybe he's sticking his plug into armabots socket?
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19:23 <Vanhayes> #ping
19:23 <armabot> pong
19:24 -!- nsh22 [n=neal@unaffiliated/nsh22] has joined #armagetron
19:24 <nsh22> hello
19:28 <Pathetique> hello
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19:44 <nsh22> #hello
19:44 <armabot> Hello nsh22 :) Quote #55: "<MrBougo> Lucifer_arma: quote me!" (added by epsy at 01:30 PM, August 12, 2007)
19:44 <nsh22> #weather innisfil
19:44 <armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Innisfil, Innisfil, Ontario is 58.6°F (2:44 PM EDT on March 17, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 29%. Dew Point: 26.6°F. Pressure: 30.12 in 1019.9 hPa (Falling).
19:45  * nsh22 is away: 
19:45 <Pathetique> #weather branford
19:45 <armabot> Pathetique: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
19:45 <Pathetique> LOL
19:46 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
19:46 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
19:46 <Vanhayes> #weather e5n 5c5
19:46 <armabot> Vanhayes: The current temperature in Hampton High School, Hampton, New Brunswick is 40.3°F (3:46 PM ADT on March 17, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 255%. Windchill: 41.0°F. Pressure: 30.47 in 1031.7 hPa (Falling).
19:47 <Vanhayes> is it still called windchill if it makes it warmer?
19:47 <Vanhayes> #finc 40.3
19:47 <armabot> Vanhayes: 4.61111111111
19:47 <nsh22> #finc 58.6
19:47 <armabot> nsh22: 14.7777777778
19:47 <nsh22> #finc 58
19:47 <armabot> nsh22: 14.4444444444
19:47 <nsh22> #finc -40
19:48 <armabot> nsh22: -40.0
19:48 <Vanhayes> nice out there
19:48 <nsh22> o0
19:48 <Pathetique> #finc stfu
19:48 <armabot> Pathetique: Error: stfu is not a valid unit.
19:48 <Vanhayes> #g 1 USD in CAD
19:48 <armabot> Vanhayes: 1 U.S. dollar = 1.27340032 Canadian dollars
19:48 <nsh22> #g 1 euro in cad
19:48 <armabot> nsh22: 1 Euro = 1.65198224 Canadian dollars
19:49 <nsh22> #g 700 cad in euro
19:49 <armabot> nsh22: 700 Canadian dollars = 423.733369 Euros
19:49 <nsh22> :(
19:50 <Vanhayes> #g 12650 Cad in EURO
19:51 <armabot> Vanhayes: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
19:51 <Vanhayes> #g 12650 CAD in EURO
19:51 <armabot> Vanhayes: 12 650 Canadian dollars = 7 657.46732 Euros
19:53 <Vanhayes> #tea
19:53 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): free kill (dlh@generalconsumption.org), Hype, michal, stax, ß|AoS|, WithGlasses
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19:57 <nsh22> oh noes
20:01 <Vanhayes> #date
20:01 <armabot> Vanhayes: 08:01 PM, March 17, 2009
20:01 <Vanhayes> is it tuesday?
20:01 <nsh22> yes
20:01 <nsh22> st patricks day
20:01 <Pathetique> roflroflrofl
20:01 <Vanhayes> Happy st patty's everyone btw
20:02 <Vanhayes> where everyone gets to pretend to be irish by drinking too much and fighting
20:02 <Vanhayes> good ol racism
20:04  * nsh22 is tired
20:09 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: when does wind make it feel warmer?
20:10 <BabyBug> When you're in a desert
20:10 <Vanhayes> that was my point the "windchill" mad it 1 degree or so warmer
20:10 <nsh22> luke-jr: Vanhayes: The current temperature in Hampton High School, Hampton, New Brunswick is 40.3°F (3:46 PM ADT on March 17, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 255%. Windchill: 41.0°F. Pressure: 30.47 in 1031.7 hPa (Falling).
20:10 <nsh22> since when was humidity 255%?
20:11 <Vanhayes> its wet here, alot
20:11 <Vanhayes> we just swim everywhere, we cant walk
20:11 <nsh22> its never over 100% humidity...ever
20:11 <Vanhayes> you just arent trying hard enough there
20:11 <Vanhayes> we give 255%
20:13 <Vanhayes> anyways that weather thing messes it up all the time
20:13 <Vanhayes> #weather e5n 5c5
20:13 <armabot> Vanhayes: The current temperature in Hampton High School, Hampton, New Brunswick is 40.3°F (4:13 PM ADT on March 17, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 255%. Windchill: 41.0°F. Pressure: 30.47 in 1031.7 hPa (Falling).
20:14 <Pathetique> LOL so I discovered one bad thing about Apple's Time Machine back up program.
20:15 <Pathetique> Deleting Backups makes for a very, very long process.
20:18 <ivantis2> its saint patricks day today?
20:18 <ivantis2> really?
20:18 <nsh22> yes
20:18 <ivantis2> hey Pathetique, i havent talked to you in a while
20:18 <Pathetique> indeed
20:18 <ivantis2> how come i didnt know about it? its spring break here, i always remember it being on a school day
20:19 <ivantis2> #weather 66044
20:19 <armabot> ivantis2: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 74.7°F (2:19 PM CDT on March 17, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 26%. Dew Point: 42.8°F. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Falling).
20:20 <ivantis2> #weather 67208
20:20 <armabot> ivantis2: The current temperature in Peach Tree, Eastborough, Kansas is 73.2°F (2:20 PM CDT on March 17, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 51.8°F. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Falling).
20:21 <Pathetique> :\
20:21 <Pathetique>  /msg ftw, ivantis2
20:21 <ivantis2> /msg--
20:22 <ivantis2> so Pathetique, what have you been doing? anything interesting recently?
20:22 <Pathetique> Not really...just trying to innovate with different game modes.
20:22 <Pathetique> which reminds me
20:22 <ivantis2> no i mean in real life
20:23 <Pathetique> oh, well, the boyfriend got his own place
20:23 <Pathetique> Other than that nothing else seems "interesting" atm
20:24 <ivantis2> what boyfriend?
20:24 <Pathetique> my boyfriend
20:24 <ivantis2> oh, cool
20:25 <Pathetique> indeed.
20:25 <ivantis2> yeah, im pretty bored right now too
20:25 <luke-jr> Pathetique is a girl? :o
20:25  * nsh22 was thinking that too
20:26 <Pathetique> Nope.
20:26 <ivantis2> we still have no idea what kind of creature luke-jr is
20:27 <nsh22> ??????????????????????????
20:28 <ivantis2> ?????????????????????????????
20:28 <nsh22> btw, how (and why) do ppl do those small 42 things in tron
20:29 <ivantis2> noob
20:29 <ivantis2> its unrecognized unicode characters, iirc
20:29 <Pathetique> its a mac character
20:29 <nsh22> ???
20:29 <Pathetique> alt+space
20:29 <nsh22> oh
20:29 <Pathetique> well
20:29 <Pathetique> shift+alt+space
20:30 <Pathetique> its just whitespace, really.
20:30 <nsh22> oh ok
20:30 <ivantis2> there are a bunch of other ones that will appear as a 42 like that
20:30 <nsh22> see ivantis2 , thats how you answer a question :P
20:30 <ivantis2> the mac alt+shift+space
20:30 <ivantis2> is only one of them
20:31 <dlh> 42?
20:31 <Pathetique> for people with smaller resolutions, dlh, it appears as a box.
20:32 <Pathetique> There are places I could go with that...
20:32 <Pathetique> LOL
20:32 <ivantis2> yeah, in a center message it looks like a 42
20:32 <nsh22> :P
20:32 <luke-jr> err
20:33 <dlh> yes, err...
20:33 <luke-jr> walls *are* game objects, right?
20:33 <nsh22> no :P
20:33 <luke-jr> ……………………
20:33 <nsh22> i dunno
20:33 <nsh22> you know im retarded...
20:36  * nsh22 is back (gone 00:50:56)
20:36  * luke-jr smacks nsh22
20:36 <Pathetique> ct|kyle: P4: it would be really 1337 of you guys to make an extension to the normal config file format for scripting so it would be not quite as difficult as it is to do scripting. :)
20:36 <BabyBug> nsh22, type /set away_show_message off
20:36 <nsh22> oh
20:36 <nsh22> ok
20:36 <nsh22> ty BabyBug
20:37 <nsh22> aww, now i vcant annoy you...
20:37 <ivantis2> BabyBug, type /set do_not_ban ivantis
20:37 <MrBougo> nsh22, sure you can
20:37 <Pathetique> that's the idea
20:37 <MrBougo> type /exec -o yes
20:37 <Pathetique> LOL
20:37 <ivantis2> y
20:37 <ivantis2> y
20:37 <ivantis2> y
20:37 <ivantis2> y
20:37 <ivantis2> y
20:37 <ivantis2> y
20:37 <nsh22> what does that do?
20:37 <ivantis2> y
20:37 <ivantis2> y
20:37 <ivantis2> y
20:37 <MrBougo> ivantis2, you win
20:37 <ivantis2> y
20:37 <ivantis2> y
20:37 <MrBougo> nsh22, that :p
20:37 <ivantis2> y
20:37 <ivantis2> y
20:37 <ivantis2> y
20:37 <ivantis2> y
20:37 <nsh22> EXEC	The system cannot find the file specified.
20:37 <Pathetique> So I was on a register at work
20:37 <ivantis2> y
20:37 <ivantis2> y
20:37 <nsh22> EXEC	The system cannot find the file specified.
20:37 <MrBougo> ivantis2, you better restart your irc client :pp
20:37 <ivantis2> y
20:37 <BabyBug> Lucifer, ping
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20:38 <MrBougo> nsh22, aw
20:38 <BabyBug> or not
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20:38 <Pathetique> And this person came through with meat
20:38 <MrBougo> haha ivantis2
20:38 <Pathetique> The meat's price was 13.37
20:38 <nsh22> <nsh22> EXEC The system cannot find the file specified.
20:38 <Pathetique> I couldn't believe it.
20:38 <ivantis2> well it sounded like a pretty good idea to me
20:38 <MrBougo> I said nsh22 not you :p
20:38 <nsh22> EXEC	The system cannot find the file specified.
20:38 <MrBougo> aw nsh22 you're on windows
20:38 <MrBougo> then it wont work
20:38 <nsh22> YOUR A CTCP VERSION!
20:38 <Pathetique> #tell nsh22 shutthefuckup
20:38 <nsh22> #m Pathetique lol
20:39 <Pathetique> #king
20:39 <Pathetique> wtf
20:39 <nsh22> #thing
20:39 <nsh22> #ping
20:39 <armabot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
20:39 <armabot> pong
20:40 <nsh22> <armabot> Pathetique wants me to tell you: shutthefuckup
20:40 <nsh22> ...
20:40 <Pathetique> LOOOOOOOL
20:40 <ivantis2> oh now i remember what yes does
20:40 <armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-zone-bouncing] r901 trigger zZone::On* for non-cycles
20:41 <nsh22> ]hug the channel
20:41 <ljrbot> nsh22 hugs the channel because they like them
20:41 <MrBougo> ivantis2, it's supposed to be piped into annoying programs asking you if you really want to do this and this
20:41 <MrBougo> ivantis2, now /join #0,0
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20:41 <nsh22> MrBougo: ...
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20:41 <MrBougo> lmao
20:41 <nsh22> that wasnt nice
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20:41 <Pathetique> Wussat one do?
20:41 <MrBougo> :p
20:42 <MrBougo> Pathetique, it's a trick
20:42 <ivantis2> seemed like a pretty good idea to me
20:42 <MrBougo> looks like a funny channel name
20:42 <Pathetique> There is no room #0,0
20:42 <MrBougo> but you actually join #0
20:42 <MrBougo> but at the same time, /join 0
20:42 <MrBougo> and that makes you leave all channels :p
20:42 <Pathetique> sweet
20:42 <ivantis2> so why not /join 0?
20:42 <Pathetique> so if I'm ever leaving or whatever
20:42 <Pathetique> and don't want to type /disconnect
20:42 <MrBougo> ivantis2, because it doesnt look like a channel name :p
20:42 <Pathetique> I could just do that.
20:42 <MrBougo> Pathetique, yep
20:43 <ivantis2> and i have seen a channel with a comma in the name
20:43 <ivantis2> fail
20:43 <MrBougo> no you havent
20:43 <MrBougo> /join takes multiple args, comma-separated :p
20:43 <ivantis2> i think i have
20:43 <ivantis2> really?
20:43 <ivantis2> not space seperated?
20:43 <MrBougo> maybe too
20:43 <MrBougo> idk
20:43 <ivantis2> how dumb
20:44 <MrBougo> try /join #blahblahblah 0
20:44 <MrBougo> :p
20:44 <Pathetique> noob separated, AFAIK
20:44 <Pathetique> BabyBug: kin
20:44 <Pathetique> errr
20:44 <Pathetique> BabyBug: king
20:45 <BabyBug> what?
20:45 <Pathetique> ...
20:45 <Pathetique> #king
20:45 <MrBougo> lol
20:45 <Pathetique> whodunnit
20:45 <Pathetique> #alias add king say kong
20:45 <armabot> Pathetique: The operation succeeded.
20:45 <ivantis2> #king
20:45 <Pathetique> #king
20:45 <ivantis2> say?
20:45 <armabot> kong
20:45 <ivantis2> its echo, noob
20:46 <Pathetique> No, it isn't, noob.
20:46 <ivantis2> oh i guess say works too
20:46 <armabot> kong
20:46 <MrBougo> #help say
20:46 <armabot> MrBougo: (say <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "echo $1".
20:46 <MrBougo> :p
20:46 <Pathetique> lololololol
20:46 <MrBougo> #say blah blah
20:46 <armabot> blah blah
20:46 <MrBougo> mmh
20:46 <Pathetique> don't use mmh
20:46 <MrBougo> meh
20:46 <Pathetique> It sounds like you're sticking your plug into someone's socket.
20:47 <Pathetique> Hmm is much better for thought-related messages.
20:47 <MrBougo> eh
20:47 <MrBougo> well
20:47 <MrBougo> who said I wasnt :/
20:47 <Pathetique> LOL
20:48 <MrBougo> mmhmm, toughtful plugging!
20:48 <ivantis2> me
20:49 <ivantis2> je
20:52 <ivantis2> ?""[yeaH I THink wwe need something to talk agoutb
20:52 <ivantis2> im getting bored, and now my keyboard is screwing up
20:53 <Vanhayes> talk about global warming, try to solve it
20:55 <Vanhayes> guess not
20:59 <ivantis2> ...some thing is really wrong with my keyboard now. i cant type a question mark, it just makes a beep sound if i try to type one
20:59 <ivantis2> maybe it knows im too smart to need to ask questions
21:00 <Pathetique> sure, why not.
21:00 <Pathetique> LOL
21:00 <nsh22> maybe its cuz your dumb and ask to many questions
21:03 <Pathetique> to his credit, asking questions is the only way to become un-dumb.
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21:08 <Pathetique> ohdear.
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21:10 <Vanhayes> #tea
21:10 <Vanhayes> #ping
21:10 <Pathetique> armabot seems to be sleeping or something.
21:12 <Vanhayes> probably drunk
21:12 <nsh22> wrtlprnft: whats wrong with armabot?
21:14 <nsh22> #say hi
21:15 <Vanhayes> she is passed out drunk like the alcoholic she is
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21:15 <nsh22> #ping
21:16 <armabot> pong
21:16 <nsh22> wow
21:16 <nsh22> '#thing
21:16 <nsh22> #thing
21:17 <Pathetique> enough, nsh.
21:17 <Pathetique> :\
21:17 <Vanhayes> #tea
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21:18 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): Aiphaton, Citrus`, diametrical, Entergriper, Fini, idntblg
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21:34 <BabyBug> #tea
21:34 <armabot> BabyBug: Fortress Café: Players (5/32): apparition, BabyBug, Player 1, TnG 4ShotZ, |x|Dimb
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22:40 <Pathetique> sex
22:40 <Pathetique> o.O
22:40 <MrBougo> okay
22:40 <Pathetique> LOL
22:40 <MrBougo> oh
22:40 <MrBougo> I forgot you're femaile
22:40 <MrBougo> female too
22:40 <Pathetique> nonono
22:40 <MrBougo> wu
22:40 <MrBougo> t
22:40 <Pathetique> <--has penis
22:40 <BabyBug> haha
22:40 <MrBougo> lmao
22:40 <MrBougo> whatev
22:40 <Pathetique> <-- no vag
22:41 <MrBougo> yeah sure
22:41 <Pathetique> i r srs
22:42 <MrBougo> ur grmr is srs
22:42 <Pathetique> grmr?
22:42 <Pathetique> oic
22:42 <Pathetique> grammar
22:42 <Pathetique> lol
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22:58 <ivantis2> #weather 66044
22:59 <ivantis2> why is she gone?
22:59 <ivantis2> @weather 66044
23:00 <ivantis2> @help weather
23:00 <ivantis2> ??
23:00 <Pathetique> ivantis2: armabot is not in the chatroom.
23:00 <ivantis2> i know
23:01 <ivantis2> @ is for teabot
23:01 <BabyBug> I don't get the #weather command. Are americans really so lazy that they can't look outside?
23:01 <Pathetique> LOL
23:02 <ivantis2> uh maybe we want to know what the exact temperature is?
23:02 <ivantis2> but that actually hasnt ever been useful information to me
23:03 <Pathetique> YES
23:03 <Pathetique> I GOT THE SCRIPT WORKING
23:03 <Pathetique> WOOOOHOOOO
23:04 <ivantis2> what script?
23:04 <ivantis2> dont be too proud of yourself
23:04 <Pathetique> This is a large step for me.
23:05 <ivantis2> what script??
23:05 <BabyBug> ivantis2, if you want to know step outside and find out. Feeling the temperature is alot more effective than reading numbers
23:05 <Pathetique> I am not at liberty to discuss such a matter
23:05 <ivantis2> why?
23:05 <ivantis2> dude just tell me what its for
23:05 <ivantis2> i am curious now
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23:11 <ivantis2> Pathetique, you are going to need to tell me
23:12 <StickyNoob> oh wow you got it to work, thats awesome
23:13 <ivantis2> StickyNoob, you know something about this? tell me
23:13 <ivantis2> once i get curious about something, it wont leave my head
23:14 <StickyNoob> i cant discuss it either
23:14 <Pathetique> Its a script that finds and catalogues necropheliac pr0n over the internets.
23:14 <ivantis2> i am not going to sleep to night if you dont tell me
23:15 <Pathetique> You going to sleep now?
23:16 <Pathetique> going to be able to*
23:16 <ivantis2> no
23:16 <Pathetique> whynot?
23:16 <ivantis2> i dont believe that
23:16 <Pathetique> I was gonna say before if you did then you'd need help
23:16 <Pathetique> LOL
23:17 <Pathetique> ...
23:17 <epsy> LOL and "..." can't mix together
23:18 <ivantis2> epsy, you missed something
23:18 <Pathetique> epsy: ===	Unknown CTCP whatisthescript? () from ivantis2
23:18 <ivantis2> ChatZilla? isnt that something that luke-jr likes?
23:18 <epsy> ok?
23:18 <epsy> what am I doing in this?
23:18 <Pathetique> That's what the "..." was aat.
23:18 <Pathetique> at*
23:18 <epsy> ah yeah
23:19 <epsy> there's a solution
23:19 <Pathetique> oui
23:19 <ivantis2> non
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23:20  * BabyBug looks at epsy...When are the pretty percentage things getting merged into the main branch :D
23:20 <epsy> cmake?
23:20 <BabyBug> that's the one
23:21 <epsy> when we can do what we can with our current system
23:21 <BabyBug> oh... >.< it des more than just build?
23:22 <epsy> well, the CMakeList.txt's already faiil at building proper clients :)
23:23 <epsy> and well, there's make run, and whatever's in the -build branches
23:24 <BabyBug> oh...long wait to the pretty colours then :(
23:24 <epsy> not so long
23:25 <BabyBug> there's no such thing as "not so long" when it comes to arma development :P
23:25 <Pathetique> LOL
23:25 <Pathetique> Yeah
23:25 <Pathetique> That's like saying "Two Weeks"
23:25 <BabyBug> s/weeks/years/
23:25 <epsy> well, you know I'm busy on other stuff right now
23:26 <Pathetique> filming Rubber Duckies Gone Wild in the bathtub, epsy?
23:26 <BabyBug> lol it wasn't meant to be a personal dig at you :P
23:26 <BabyBug> well it wasn't a dig at anyone
23:26 <luke-jr> ivantis2: u suck
23:26 <luke-jr> does cmake have a replacement for ./configure --help? :x
23:26 <epsy> you usually don't have a ./configure step
23:27 <Pathetique> meaning it just works, right?
23:27 <epsy> I don't really see the need for it anyway
23:27 <luke-jr> epsy: I mean something that shows a full list of options
23:27 <epsy> like, targets to build or..?
23:28 <luke-jr> optional compile time stuff
23:28 <luke-jr> Armathentication, Zones, Fortress, etc
23:28 <Pathetique> Master Server...
23:28 <epsy> optional compile stuff shouldn't exist :)
23:28 <Pathetique> lolol
23:28 <luke-jr> also, the configure step exists for a reason-- OS can vary quite a bit
23:28 <luke-jr> epsy: of course it should
23:28 <luke-jr> there's a reason it exists
23:29 <epsy> the "cmake ." step creates the files ./configure created
23:29 <luke-jr> cool
23:29 <epsy> with pretty much the same amount of data
23:29 <luke-jr> so what about compile time options? and a list of them?
23:30 <epsy> I don't know, and I would doubt it
23:30 <luke-jr> just because I want to build a server doesn't mean I want to build all the plugins, for example
23:30 <epsy> specify a target to build
23:30 <epsy> by default it will build every target except those marked as "do not build me all the time"
23:31 <epsy> there's a list of targets which you can get (on unix makefiles) with make help
23:31 <luke-jr> so what about #ifdefs, not plugins?
23:32 <luke-jr> eg, Armathentication
23:32 <epsy> you could pass env variables to cmake
23:32 <epsy> yeah
23:32 <epsy> that's probably it
23:32 <luke-jr> -.-
23:32 <BabyBug> haha...
23:33 <epsy> luke-jr, it's meant to run as a GUI just as well as a console app
23:33 <Pathetique> :o
23:33 <luke-jr> epsy: so it doesn't run as a GUI?
23:33 <epsy> so -- options are not really an option, I guess
23:33 <Pathetique> I'd like that a lot, epsy.
23:33 <Pathetique> GUI ftw :D
23:34 <luke-jr> "we don't want to make a usable GUI, so we'll make sure it's not usable as a console app either!"
23:34 <luke-jr> XD]
23:34 <epsy> luke-jr, I'll try to check how others do that kind of stuff, but I'm not sure if anybody else does that weird kind of stuff :)
23:34 <luke-jr> it's not weird, it's normal
23:34 <luke-jr> look at KDE ☺
23:34 <luke-jr> they have plenty of it I'm sure
23:34 <Pathetique> The purpose of not having a GUI is so you don't get every single tronner making his/her own noob server?
23:34 <epsy> mm I will need some disk space for that
23:35 <luke-jr> Pathetique: you don't need to compile to run a server
23:35 <luke-jr> Pathetique: and the GUI talked about herein is just the build
23:35 <luke-jr> not the server itself
23:35 <Pathetique> oic
23:35  * Pathetique shuts up
23:35 <BabyBug> hey the cmake guy looks cool
23:35 <Pathetique> :X
23:35 <BabyBug> gui*
23:35 <BabyBug> and easy!
23:35 <luke-jr> GUI server is called HYBRID
23:35 <epsy> luke-jr, any idea what relatively small package I would download?
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23:37 <Pathetique> Random 0.3.0 question: is it possible to have a square zone that doesn't spin, but still has moving walls?
23:38 <epsy> like what?
23:38 <Pathetique> like, say we have one zone shapecircle
23:38 <Pathetique> then we have a square defined
23:38 <epsy> luke-jr, repeat: any idea what relatively small kde package I would download?
23:38 <epsy> or could
23:38 <epsy> yea
23:38 <epsy> h
23:38 <Pathetique> can the square not spin, but still have the "spinning" wall segments?
23:38 <Pathetique> To show that it is a zone?
23:39 <epsy> ah
23:39 <epsy> idk :s
23:39 <epsy> I think they are all rendered plain
23:39 <Pathetique> It would be cool to be able to define a motion state in the map file ;)
23:40 <Pathetique> *hinthint*
23:40 <Pathetique> ;)
23:40 <epsy> I'm not really into that myself
23:40 <Pathetique> seeing as luke-jr seems to be the most knowledgeable of 0.3.0 zones stuff, he should prolly field the question.
23:40 <Pathetique> lol
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23:41 <epsy> he deserted
23:41 <Pathetique> luke-jr deserted us?
23:41 <epsy> so seems it
23:42 <epsy> luke-jr, well, #m me
23:42 <epsy> good night
23:42 <Pathetique> epsy
23:42 <Pathetique> armabot is not alive yet
23:42 <BabyBug> night
23:42 <epsy> then he can use his own bot
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23:48 <ivantis2> whats m do?
23:53 <ct|kyle> Pathetique: everytime.cfg ?
23:53 <Pathetique> huh?
23:54 <ct|kyle> Pathetique: maybe I don't understand what you were asking
23:54 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, He wanted a square zone. With the walls rotating. But the 4 corners of the square stay in the same place!
23:55 <BabyBug> I think
23:55 <ct|kyle> like an option to Set_Rotation
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23:59 <ivantis2> i had kind of a good idea
23:59 <ivantis2> for everytime.cfg, there should be things that are like the variables for echo in supybots

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00:00 <ivantis2> like $randInt would be replaced with a random integer when everytime.cfg was evaluated
00:03 <dlh> Admin: the random number for this round is 4!
00:05 <ivantis2> no for like rubberz and stuff
00:06 <dlh> You can do that using an external script .
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00:07 <ivantis2> or with an internal modification
00:10 <dlh> Or an external script, right now, without modifying the source code :)
00:16 <ivantis2> ...im watching the nikelodeon channel right now
00:16 <ivantis2> every other commercial is for mcdonald toys
00:16 <ivantis2> literaly
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00:16 <ivantis2> no really, first a mcdonal commercial, then for something else, then another one
00:16 <ivantis2> what a lot of money wasted
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00:27 <Lucifer> #math calc 134250969-134250815
00:27 <Lucifer> dammit
00:27 <Lucifer> !math calc 134250969-134250815
00:28 <Lucifer> @math calc 134250969-134250815
00:28 <teabot> Lucifer: 154
00:30 <akira_arma> lucifer
00:30 <akira_arma> can you help me compile tron on windows?
00:30 <akira_arma> ;)
00:33 <luke-jr> #m epsy the file sizes are public
00:34 <ivantis2> luke-jr, armabot is away
00:34 <luke-jr> ]later tell epsy the file sizes are public
00:34 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
00:34 <BabyBug> Lucifer, why are you doing such silly sums?
00:34 <Lucifer> to find out how many tasks I have left to complete
00:35 <BabyBug> you're saying you've done 134250815 tasks?
00:35 <Lucifer> those are the task numbers, so to find out how many are left, I subtract the lowest number from the highest number
00:35 <luke-jr> akira_arma: I don't think Lucifer uses Windows
00:35 <BabyBug> oh, but you never started at 0?
00:35 <Lucifer> no, didn't start at 0
00:35 <Lucifer> started with 270 tasks
00:35 <BabyBug> :|
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00:36 <Lucifer> so, I'm just under half way finished
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00:37 <BabyBug> and you have a week to do it?
00:37 <Lucifer> yeah
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00:38 <dlh> akira_arma: I think someone updated winlibs to include some protobuf binaries. you might want to try now
00:39 <akira_arma> :o
00:39 <akira_arma> k
00:39 <dlh> bzr pull to get latest changes
00:40 <akira_arma> i got them with svn
00:40 <dlh> svn pull
00:40 <akira_arma> nvm updating
00:40 <dlh> :)
00:40 <akira_arma> have tortoise
00:40 <akira_arma> GUI
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00:42 <ivantis2> dude
00:42 <ivantis2> i want a blu-ray laser
00:43 <ivantis2> they can start fires!
00:43 <ivantis2> http://blog.cowtowncomputercongress.org/grand-opening-project-night/
00:43 <ivantis2> second thing down
00:43 <akira_arma> aaaahhhh
00:43 <akira_arma> it seems to work now
00:43 <akira_arma> ;)
00:44 <akira_arma> thanks dlh
00:44 <luke-jr> :< :< :<
00:44 <luke-jr> WHY IS eWall NOT AN eGameObject⁈
00:44 <BabyBug> should it be?
00:44 <Lucifer> that's to make you ask why it's that way
00:44 <akira_arma> build finished!
00:44 <akira_arma> YAY
00:45 <akira_arma> it still has no .exe tho :(
00:45  * luke-jr ponders just adding eGameObject to eWall's parent list
00:45 <akira_arma> oops another wrror :(
00:45 <akira_arma> error*
00:47 <akira_arma> http://rafb.net/p/Yvw5zm95.html
00:47 <akira_arma> can someone have a look at this one?
00:47 <akira_arma> could*
00:47 <luke-jr> looked
00:48 <akira_arma> any suggeston?
00:49 <luke-jr> wait, I'm supposed to do something besides look?
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00:50 <akira_arma> yes :)
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00:56 <dlh> is that all the errors?
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01:06 <luke-jr> epic fail -.-
01:07 <akira_arma> yes dlh
01:08 <luke-jr> z-man has spoiled my branch -.-
01:11 <BabyBug> lol how exactly?
01:11 <luke-jr> he made the original game
01:11 <luke-jr> which is where we inherit this "walls are not objects" nonsense from --
01:11 <BabyBug> i don't get it
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01:12 <BabyBug> So why can't you make the walls objects?
01:12 <ivantis2> because you cant pick up walls
01:12 <ivantis2> duh
01:13 <luke-jr> BabyBug: code conflicts
01:13 <BabyBug> somebody please ban him
01:13 <luke-jr> not only are they not objects, but they can't be easily made objects
01:13 <BabyBug> oh :(
01:13 <luke-jr> #kban ivantis2
01:13 <BabyBug> So which branch are you talking about?
01:13 <BabyBug> There's no armabot in here
01:13 <luke-jr> BabyBug: lp:~armagetronad-sty-0.3/armagetronad/armagetronad-zone-bouncing
01:14 <luke-jr> I went to a bunch of work to make zones react to non-cycle objects
01:14 <luke-jr> just to find that walls aren't even effing objects -.-
01:14 <BabyBug> ouch.. lol
01:15 <ivantis2> dude
01:15 <ivantis2> that sucks
01:15 <luke-jr> ivantis2: yeah, almost seems like something you'd do -.-
01:15 <ivantis2> anyway, dont zones already react to non cycle stuff?
01:15 <luke-jr> nope
01:15 <ivantis2> ...
01:15 <ivantis2> dont they bounce off walls?
01:17 <luke-jr> not yet
01:17 <luke-jr> that's what my branch was trying to add
01:19 <dlh> akira_arma: maybe put #include <stdlib.h> at the top of the file. or it is a mingw installation error.
01:20 <dlh> But z-<don't-highlight>man was able to compile for windows recently, so probably an install error
01:21 <BabyBug> you mean z-<not-online>man? :P
01:22 <BabyBug> so....time for a new plan luke-jr? :)
01:22 <luke-jr> yes, my plan is to bug z-man when I see him
01:22 <BabyBug> ...
01:23 <BabyBug> it's only for sty anyway...who cares :P
01:23 <luke-jr> the sty bouncing was a very dirty hack
01:23 <luke-jr> :x
01:24 <BabyBug> is sty at some point planning to be cleaned up and merged into trunk?
01:24 <BabyBug> and be "official"
01:24 <dlh> .
01:24 <BabyBug> as in "supported"
01:24 <dlh> kinda
01:25 <BabyBug> could you elaborate on that? :P
01:25 <dlh> sty was a big hack.
01:25 <dlh> luke-jr/others are working on porting it to trunk
01:26 <BabyBug> but will it then be merged? or remain a seperate branch?
01:26 <dlh> if it works, merged :)
01:27 <BabyBug> "if"..heh, love your optimism :P
01:28 <ivantis2> wow that really amazes me that luke-jr would do something like that..write a bunch of code for zones to interact with objects, then realizing that walls are not objects
01:30 <BabyBug> i want armabot back
01:31 <ivantis2> and now, wrtlprnfts logs have come to a stop
01:31 <ivantis2> at 23:59 his time
01:31 <ivantis2> ...
01:31 <ivantis2> nevermind thats just the end of that file
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02:07 <Lucifer> ivantis2: yeah, it's a pretty smart move, it's damned amazing luke-jr would do it
02:08 <Lucifer> luke-jr: how does it look to go ahead and make walls objects?
02:08 <Lucifer> we kinda need that in the future anyway, you know....  ;)
02:09  * nniveus waves hello
02:10 <Lucifer> yay, my wheel is in Buffalo now
02:10 <Lucifer> who the fuck is nniveus, and why is he pinging me?
02:10 <nniveus> lucifer, calm down o_O it's nara here lol
02:10 <Lucifer> ah
02:10 <nniveus> first time on irc, having fun with commands
02:10 <Lucifer> didn't anybody tell you it's rude to randomly ping people like that?  ;/
02:10 <Lucifer> version requests are likewise considered rude
02:11 <nniveus> really? haven't really wrapped my head around irc etiquette ;)
02:11 <Lucifer> basically, any ctcp thing is probably rude ;)
02:11 <nniveus> ctcp?
02:11 <Lucifer> [20:08] [CTCP] Received CTCP-PING request from nniveus to channel #armagetron, sending answer.
02:11 <Lucifer> do a version on me and see what you get :)
02:11  * Lucifer checks his settings to make sure the answer he thinks is there is still there
02:12 <nniveus> lol
02:12 <nniveus> im assuming "do a version" is to ping you again? ;)
02:12 <Lucifer> no, it's something else
02:12 <Lucifer> er, oops
02:12 <Lucifer> there
02:12 <Lucifer>  /ctcp nniveus version
02:12 <Lucifer> replace nniveus with Lucifer, of course
02:13 <Lucifer> now do it to GodTodd_ (hi there!)
02:13 <Lucifer> :)
02:13  * Lucifer just noticed he removed his rude response to version requests
02:14 <nniveus> yeah i was just thinking that response wasn't too creative :p
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02:18 <nniveus> #list weather
02:18 <nniveus> hm
02:19 <Lucifer> #later tell z-man any objection to me doing this?  http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml
02:20 <Lucifer> fucking armabot isn't here!
02:20 <Lucifer> guru3: any objection to me doing this?  http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml
02:20  * Lucifer wants a cloak, but doesn't want a generic "unaffiliated" cloak
02:21  * nniveus wants to flip coin, but can't find the command
02:21 <nniveus> coins***
02:28 <Lucifer> that's because armabot isn't here
02:28 <Lucifer> armabuilder: commands
02:28 <armabuilder> buildbot commands: commands, dance, destroy, excited, force, hello, help, join, last, leave, list, notify, source, status, stop, version, watch
02:28 <ivantis2> random.org
02:28 <ivantis2> random.org has a really cool coin flipper
02:28 <Lucifer> no, even armabuilder, which apparently has more toys than utilities, can't flip coins
02:28 <Lucifer> armabuilder: last
02:29 <armabuilder> last build [linux-client]: 158455 secs ago: failed Distcheck Installcheck
02:29 <armabuilder> last build [linux-server]: 143103 secs ago: build successful
02:29 <nniveus> lol
02:30 <ivantis2> what is the purpose of a build bot?
02:30 <ivantis2> logging builds?
02:32 <luke-jr> BabyBug: sty is already partly merged
02:33 <luke-jr> Lucifer: ]later tell
02:34 <luke-jr> Lucifer: I gave up on trying to make walls objects
02:34 <luke-jr> might try again when z-man returns
02:35 <Lucifer> ivantis2: it doesn't log builds, it runs builds
02:35 <Lucifer> I'm still working on it, but when it's finished, it'll run (probably nightly) builds from the latest revisions in the trunk and 0.2.8, and maybe 0.3.1
02:36 <ivantis2> cool! in an irc bot!
02:36 <Lucifer> and it'll run any tests that are there
02:36 <Lucifer> it's not an irc bot, the irc bot is just one interface to it
02:36 <luke-jr> oh
02:36 <luke-jr> the reason I gave up, is because I started getting errors entirely unrelated to walls ☺
02:36 <ivantis2> i hate that kind of thing
02:36 <Lucifer> make a new object to replace walls, then?
02:37 <Lucifer> it might be easier to just do that and deprecate the old walls
02:37 <luke-jr> >_<
02:37 <ivantis2> hey, now theres an idea
02:37 <luke-jr> Lucifer: borders with effect=death
02:37 <luke-jr> and textures
02:37 <Lucifer> and rubber
02:37 <ivantis2> i want in on this project
02:37 <luke-jr> but that means hacking OpenGL code
02:37 <luke-jr> and I almost always fail at that
02:37 <Lucifer> not really, it just means copying and pasting the wall rendering code :)
02:38 <Lucifer> you could also combine the moviepack wall rendering with the regular wall rendering at the same time
02:38 <luke-jr> Lucifer: I already tried that with gShapeModel ☺
02:38 <luke-jr> gShapeModel and a map-configurable resource texture for floors
02:38 <luke-jr> both utter failures
02:38 <luke-jr> and I have no idea why
02:38 <luke-jr> I mostly just C&P stuff for them
02:40 <luke-jr> also, players drop walls :x
02:40 <luke-jr> so it's not simple no matter what ☹
02:40 <ivantis2> yeah, rubber specific to each wall would be cool
02:41 <Lucifer> I thought walls players drop were different from grid walls
02:41 <ivantis2> like CYCLE_RUBBER would be the default, then they could each have a different rubber in the map
02:41 <luke-jr> ivantis2: stfu, that doesn't even make sense -.-
02:41 <luke-jr> Lucifer: they are
02:41 <ivantis2> that doesnt even make sense?
02:41 <luke-jr> Lucifer: but neither are eGameObjects
02:41 <ivantis2> yeah, to a monkey
02:41 <luke-jr> ivantis2: rubber is a player property, not a wall property
02:42 <Lucifer> ah
02:42 <Lucifer> is there anything anywhere, like eGO docs, to indicate what the conceptual difference is?
02:42 <luke-jr> player walls are like eWall + nNetObject
02:42 <ivantis2> erm i mean rubber deplete
02:42 <ivantis2> see? i really havent played this game in such a long time
02:42 <luke-jr> Lucifer: eGameObjects are, I believe, supposed to be things on the grid with positions, directions, and such
02:43 <luke-jr> but they're used for everything except walls
02:43 <Lucifer> take it in small doses, then
02:43 <Lucifer> try to replace grid walls with an eGO subclass and don't worry about cycle walls
02:44 <Lucifer> if you need help with rendering, ping me and give me a bzr url :)
02:44  * Lucifer isn't the hottest opengl programmer, but can usually get *something* rendered
02:44 <Lucifer> eGO's also get synced over the network, right?
02:45 <Lucifer> grid walls don't get synced, they're in the map file and never move, so sync is not necessary
02:45 <ivantis2> eGO? whats eGO?
02:45 <luke-jr> no
02:45 <Lucifer> but if we want to make moving grid walls at some point, they'll need to be synced
02:45 <luke-jr> gNetGameObject or such goes over the network
02:45 <Lucifer> ah, that's a subclass of eGO, right?
02:45 <luke-jr> yes
02:46 <luke-jr> but if we're going to rewrite walls, best to have them netsync'd
02:46 <Lucifer> oh yeah, because then they can be dynamically manipulated ;)
02:46 <luke-jr> exactly
02:50 <luke-jr> idea on new rubber implementation:
02:51 <luke-jr> gCycle::Stop is used to force the cycle to stop where it is
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02:51 <luke-jr> and rubber is used as the cycle is stopped
02:51 <luke-jr> does that get the same effect?
02:56 <Lucifer> http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Peaks/5957/xml.html  <--- worst webpage *ever*
02:56 <Lucifer> hmmm, I don't really know the answer to that
02:56 <Lucifer> it's been literally 4 years since I looked at rubber code
02:57 <Lucifer> man, my wheel is still in buffalo
02:58  * Lucifer wants his wheel to be here *now* dammit!
02:59 <luke-jr> I'm not sure I've ever looked at rubber code
03:01 <ivantis2> luke-jr, have you ever gotten a managed server?
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03:03 <ct|kyle> 1 looked at rubber code a month ago
03:04 <ct|kyle> but I don't remember much of it
03:05 <ivantis2> Lucifer, what is this wheel for?
03:05 <ivantis2> im curious
03:05 <Lucifer> @math calc 134250969-134250838
03:05 <teabot> Lucifer: 131
03:05 <Lucifer> ivantis2: my bicycle
03:06 <ivantis2> cool
03:06 <ivantis2> what kind of bicycle?
03:07 <ct|kyle> I thought that was obvious LOL
03:07 <ivantis2> my dad collects bikes that he buys on ebay
03:08 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, unlucky....It looks like i'll be getting a new laptop, gonna have to put up with me longer.
03:08 <ct|kyle> FUCK
03:09 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: what lizmatic can't live without you so she is getting you one :P
03:10 <BabyBug> not quite, i have a mobile to keep in contact with lizmatic :P
03:10 <ivantis2> where is lizmatic? i havent seen her around in a while
03:10 <ivantis2> still banned?
03:13 <Lucifer> ivantis2: it's just a cheap mountain bike I picked up at Academy
03:13 <ivantis2> oh
03:13 <Lucifer> nothing special, one of those really cheap bikes that you do whatever you can to keep on the road without spending more money than absolutely necessary
03:14 <Lucifer> I was originally going to upgrade all the pieces parts to make a really nice bike out of it, then I found out how shoddy the frames on these bikes tend to be
03:14 <ivantis2> dude, a potential client just said he was going to give me root access to his 3 servers
03:14 <ivantis2> just to test my knowledge
03:14 <ivantis2> ...
03:14 <Lucifer> decided that would be hanging gold on shit, so now I'm wanting to buy a new bike with a really nice frame
03:15 <ivantis2> i wonder why so many people that live here have mountain bikes
03:15 <ivantis2> kansas is flat!
03:15 <luke-jr> ivantis2: KC sure isn't
03:15 <ivantis2> actually, KU mountain, but its more like a big hill
03:16 <ivantis2> i havent been to KC in ages
03:16 <luke-jr> Atchison isn't, either
03:17 <Lucifer> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/09/060929093059.htm   <--- I think I'm going to like this job, because I get to see all sorts of interesting web pages that I'd never look for on my own
03:17 <Lucifer> ivantis2: I bought it because it was a) cheap, and b) I was impressed by the dual suspension
03:17 <Lucifer> now that I've been riding it, I'm no longer impressed by the dual suspension
03:18 <Lucifer> it feels nice to ride, don't get me wrong, but it also runs the prices of accessories that bolt onto the read through the ceiling
03:18 <ivantis2> i rented a mountain bike when i was in Telluride, CO this summer, it was really fun
03:18 <ivantis2> anyone here been to telluride?
03:18 <Lucifer> if I had gotten a bike without a rear suspension, I'd already have a nice, high weight rating rack with panniers
03:18 <nniveus> back :)
03:18 <nniveus> lol no more rubber talk?
03:18 <luke-jr> nniveus: wb
03:18 <Lucifer> instead I've got a rack that hangs off the seat stem and can't carry panniers
03:18 <nniveus> luke-jr: ty
03:19 <ivantis2> www.taketheinternetback.com
03:19 <ivantis2> www.taketheinternetback.com <-- anyone a member of this?
03:19 <nniveus> you went biking in CO ivantis?
03:19 <nniveus> that's gotta be fun
03:19 <ivantis2> oh it was
03:19 <nniveus> ever skiied there? ;)
03:19 <ivantis2> no
03:19 <ivantis2> ive only been skiing once
03:19 <nniveus> hope i spelled that right, never know how to
03:20 <nniveus> that's a shame :P
03:20 <ivantis2> 4th grade field trip to some place near KC
03:20 <luke-jr> nniveus: who are you?
03:20 <ivantis2> it was really cool
03:20 <BabyBug> no she's not banned ivantis2
03:20 <nniveus> lluke-jr: nara
03:20 <BabyBug> nara?!!?
03:20 <nniveus> luke*
03:20 <nniveus> sugarpuff? lols
03:20 <BabyBug> omg omg omg! <3333333333333
03:20 <nniveus> heya :)
03:20 <nniveus> decided to check out irc today
03:20 <BabyBug> :D
03:20 <luke-jr> wtf is nara?
03:20 <nniveus> wtf is luke? ;(
03:20 <BabyBug> luke-jr, stfu! it's nara!!
03:21 <luke-jr> is nara a player?
03:21 <nniveus> of tron? yes
03:21 <luke-jr> o i c
03:21 <Lucifer> @math calc 134250969-134250849
03:21 <teabot> Lucifer: 120
03:21 <luke-jr> never seen you I think
03:21 <luke-jr> or maybe you just didn't make it into my memorybanks
03:21 <Lucifer> nara's been posting on the forums recently
03:21 <nniveus> :) yes i have
03:22 <BabyBug> she's sexy!
03:22 <nniveus> lolol
03:22 <luke-jr> :O
03:22 <luke-jr> a girl?
03:22 <nniveus> i claim to be
03:22 <luke-jr> how is it that Arma has more females than anywhere else online? :x
03:22 <Lucifer> luke-jr still hasn't even kissed a girl
03:22 <luke-jr> …
03:22 <Lucifer> they come to see me
03:22 <nniveus> lol
03:23 <nniveus> i won't contradict you on that lucifer :x
03:23 <Lucifer> nniveus: ty :)
03:23 <luke-jr> erm
03:23 <luke-jr> I'm not even sure how to implement borders with the current codebase :x
03:24  * BabyBug <3's nniveus 
03:24 <nniveus> haha
03:24 <luke-jr> save a copy of every object's last known location and compare if they might have crossed?
03:24 <nniveus> :>
03:24 <luke-jr> seems slow
03:24 <luke-jr> :/
03:25 <nniveus> luke do you use the same name on the grid?
03:25 <luke-jr> yes
03:25 <nniveus> what servers usually?
03:25 <luke-jr> whatever I feel like
03:25 <ivantis2> ...this guy is going to give me root access to 3 of his servers to see if i am trustworthy
03:26 <ivantis2> (luke-jr doesnt play)
03:26 <luke-jr> with a slight preference for ones I host
03:26 <nniveus> lol
03:26 <ivantis2> luke-jr, if you were going to hire someone for a programming job that they would need ssh access to your servers for, would you give them root to see if they were trustworthy?
03:26 <nniveus> which are...?
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03:27 <luke-jr> ivantis2: no programming job requires ssh access to my servers
03:27 <ivantis2> the one that i applied for today does
03:27 <luke-jr> but for comparison, I have on occasion given a root password to a server of mine on ##Linux in public
03:27 <Lucifer> luke-jr: what if you were hosting a bzr repository on your server?  ;)
03:27 <luke-jr> nniveus: no idea anymore
03:27 <luke-jr> Lucifer: ?
03:28 <Lucifer> then you connect with sftp: urls
03:28 <ivantis2> luke-jr, what was the occasion??
03:28 <Lucifer> at least, that's what I do with bzr repos on my server
03:28 <luke-jr> Lucifer: ♡ rssh
03:28 <luke-jr> ivantis2: felt like it
03:28 <Lucifer> ivantis2: maybe the servers he's testing you with are just test servers, eh?
03:28 <ivantis2> on ##linux? i would give it away on #windows because they probably wouldnt even know how to use ssh
03:28 <Lucifer> so you can trash them, and he'll know you don't know what you're doing and not hire you
03:28 <luke-jr> I think someone fork bombed it
03:29 <ivantis2> Lucifer, no one of them hosts www.taketheinternetback.com
03:29  * nniveus nudges babybug
03:29  * BabyBug fondles nniveus 
03:29 <luke-jr> ivantis2: so you're being hired by a scammer
03:29 <Lucifer> sorry nniveus (hi there!), was I failing to flirt that you need BabyBug?
03:29 <luke-jr> ivantis2: and you expect him to pay you?
03:29 <ivantis2> scammer?
03:29 <nniveus> no you were failing to entertain ;) with your server talk
03:30 <ivantis2> www.taketheinternetback.com is a scam? i didnt examine it very well
03:30 <Lucifer> talking trash to ivantis2 that he doesn't understand isn't entertaining?
03:30 <nniveus> no not really, not to someone who also doesn't understand
03:30 <nniveus> haha
03:30 <BabyBug> Lucifer, kick/banning ivantis2 would do the job much better.
03:30 <Lucifer> oh come on, he's like only 99% as annoying as he was a few months ago
03:30 <BabyBug> or at least op me for 10 seconds so i can do it
03:30 <Lucifer> at this rate, he'll finally stop being annoying when he turns 85
03:31 <luke-jr> BabyBug: isn't he still banned?
03:31 <ivantis2> me?
03:31 <ivantis2> no
03:31 <BabyBug> No cause some fagend unbanned him
03:31 <ivantis2> ivantis2 appears to be here, unbanned
03:31 <luke-jr> must be a bug
03:31 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o Lucifer] by ChanServ
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03:31 <BabyBug> ...
03:32 <luke-jr> lol
03:32 <BabyBug> you're a blooming fagend Lucifer that's what :P
03:32 <Lucifer> am not
03:32 <BabyBug> am too
03:32 <Lucifer> am not
03:32 <ivantis2> ha was that BabyBug's first kick from here?
03:32 <BabyBug> am too
03:32 <Lucifer> am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not v
03:32 <luke-jr> BabyBug: are you trying to say Lucifer is "coming out of the closet"?
03:33 <BabyBug> am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too am too
03:33 <luke-jr> you fail
03:33 <nniveus> lol
03:33 <ivantis2> you sound like 2nd graders
03:33 <nniveus> about time
03:33 <nniveus> is this how conversation usually goes around here?
03:33 <luke-jr> http://encyclopediadramatica.com/NO_U
03:33 <nniveus> just wondering ;)
03:33 <Lucifer> frequently
03:33 <BabyBug> yup
03:33 <Lucifer> we oscillate between highly technical discussions, and borderline XXX conversation
03:34 <BabyBug> the XXX discussion gets moved elsewhere cause Lucifer is so up tight
03:34 <Lucifer> no, that's actually to avoid guru3 banning us all
03:34 <Lucifer> since he's like the Ultimate Channel Master here
03:35 <BabyBug> i'll ban him back
03:35 <Lucifer> in fact, taht girl I was telling you about complained that I kept looking to see if anybody was coming, because it was a public park in the middle of the night and cops *do* patrol it
03:36  * Lucifer sighs
03:36  * Lucifer needs his own place asap
03:36 <Lucifer> (yes, that comment was related to the discussion, it just may not be so obvious)
03:36 <BabyBug> eh? you kept watching out? you turd bucket.. lol
03:37 <BabyBug> no wonder you couldn't relax...blooming paranoia :P
03:37 <nniveus> XXX conversation lol
03:37 <nniveus> expect me to partake in it once in a while
03:38 <Lucifer> it's not "blooming paranoia", it's more like "advanced paranoia"
03:38 <BabyBug> ^^
03:38 <nniveus> though spectating should be entertaining enough ;)
03:38 <nniveus> you guys better not let me down
03:38 <Lucifer> of course I was watching out!
03:38 <Lucifer> I'm too old to go to jail for screwing in a public park
03:38 <nniveus> lawl
03:38 <nniveus> public park?
03:38 <BabyBug> you're not even 40!
03:39 <BabyBug> wait, you're over 30 though...i guess that is too old for sex outside
03:39 <Lucifer> er, the girl was.....  ;)
03:39 <Lucifer> not too old for sex outside, just too old to go to jail for it
03:39 <Lucifer> a) I should know how to avoid going to jail for it
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03:39 <BabyBug> no no, it's too old for sex outside too :P
03:39 <Lucifer> and b) I should know how to avoid going to jail for it!
03:39 <Lucifer> is not!
03:40 <BabyBug> is too!
03:40 <Lucifer> ah hell, that was one of the lower-priority reasons I didn't like my ex anymore
03:40 <Lucifer> she was too scared to screw outside
03:40 <BabyBug> lol
03:40 <Lucifer> little chickenshit she was, I swearuh
03:40 <nniveus> more like her conscience told her not to scar any young minds
03:40 <nniveus> :D
03:41 <luke-jr> nniveus: you can be outside without young minds watching
03:41 <BabyBug> so no toys, nothing outside....gawsh she was boring wasn't she? :P
03:41 <Lucifer> BabyBug: don't forget the part about just laying there, and telling me she won't do anything interesting until I get her "excited enough"
03:41 <nniveus> hard to row past the park and not notice those activities luke
03:41 <BabyBug> oh yeh that too
03:41 <Lucifer> there's a scene in Cheers, where Sam finally gets to sleep with Rebecca, that really sums it up
03:41 <luke-jr> nniveus: there is more outside than the park
03:42 <BabyBug> haha
03:42 <Lucifer> well, it was a park on the edge of town, and we were well away from the road/parking lot
03:42 <Lucifer> and it was like 4am, not like there was likely to be anybody down there, unless they were cops patrolling, or other couples doing what we were doing
03:42 <luke-jr> nniveus: for example, a private yard with fences
03:42 <nniveus> or people who do crew :)
03:42 <nniveus> lol
03:43 <Lucifer> my ex and I had a private yard with a good fence, and she was still too chickenshit to screw in it
03:43 <nniveus> expand on that luke :o
03:43 <luke-jr> in that scenario, you only need to worry about Google getting a sattelite image
03:43 <Lucifer> not at night you don't ;)
03:43 <luke-jr> nniveus: air matresses are very mobile ☺
03:43 <nniveus> lol!
03:43 <Lucifer> air mattresses aren't entirely necessary, though, a good carpet of grass will do just as well
03:43 <Lucifer> maybe a blanket to keep certain parts clean....
03:43  * BabyBug agrees
03:43 <luke-jr> rain is nice too
03:44  * Lucifer lives in Texas, where it only rains every now and then
03:44 <Lucifer> the full moon was awesome though
03:44 <luke-jr> Lucifer: you weren't even in a wooded area⁈
03:44 <Lucifer> slightly wooded
03:44 <Lucifer> we were in sort of a clearing, next to a creek
03:45 <nniveus> LOL
03:45 <Lucifer> look, at 4am, you can get a lot of privacy just walking 100 yards off the road
03:45 <luke-jr> our apartment complex has a hot tub
03:45 <nniveus> we saw one of you guys lucifer while rowing once
03:45 <luke-jr> it closes at 6 PM, but they don't kick you out..
03:45 <nniveus> the cox was so distracted by the couple that he almost ran our boat into the bank
03:46 <Lucifer> heh
03:46 <nniveus> moral of the story: please don't fuck next to a creek/river/lake
03:46 <Lucifer> this was a *creek*, shallow enough to wade across, nobody was going to row by
03:46 <luke-jr> lol
03:46 <Lucifer> I kinda thought the moral of the story was "don't get distracted watching people fucking when you're trying to navigate a boat"
03:46 <luke-jr> isn't that practically the definition of a creek?
03:47 <Lucifer> summed up, "don't watch porn when driving"
03:47 <nniveus> lawl
03:48 <nniveus> i still place the blame on the couple
03:49 <Lucifer> oh no, there's two people fucking!  Nobody around them is responsible for their own actions while those two people are fucking!
03:49 <nniveus> lol
03:50 <nniveus> it was five in the morning lucifer, there's hardly anything interesting to stare at on a lake
03:50 <nniveus> it's almost a moral obligation to not fuck around there
03:50 <Lucifer> but if you've actually got a job to do, you shouldn't be getting distracted, eh?
03:50 <nniveus> ;) not my job, the cox
03:51 <luke-jr> they shouldn't be distracting the cox
03:51 <Lucifer> I'll agree that fucking couples should make reasonable attempts at privacy, but sometimes they expect privacy where it's not coming
03:51 <luke-jr> wtf is a cox anyhow?
03:51 <luke-jr> where i live, Cox is a cable compan
03:51 <Lucifer> cox steers, right?
03:51 <Lucifer> cox is short for coxswain, isn't it?
03:51 <nniveus> yes
03:51 <nniveus> you know a bit about it then i see :)
03:51 <Lucifer> fascination with sailing in general ;)
03:51 <Lucifer> when I have money and a space, I'm going to build a sailboat ;)
03:52 <nniveus> nice
03:52 <Lucifer> there's a UK developer that sells plans for catamaran sailing boats for pretty reasonable prices, and the boats themselves are really nice
03:52  * luke-jr makes a zone that adds sails to a cycle so it can cross water-zones :o
03:53 <nniveus> lol luke
03:53  * luke-jr ponders ice zones that disable steering
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03:55 <luke-jr> oops, we still had a 16 year old in here
03:55 <Lucifer> well, 16 year olds might encounter couples fucking in parks at 4am
03:55 <Lucifer> at least, I might have when I was 16 ;)
03:57 <Lucifer> luke-jr: it would be neat to have friction on the floor
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03:57 <Lucifer> and several available definitions of friction, one that makes the existing multi-axes thing happen, and then maybe one that's physically accurate
03:58 <luke-jr> or just a flag to forbid turns
03:58 <luke-jr> XD
03:58 <Lucifer> different objects could have different frictional effects, which would allow us to put tanks with treads on teh same grid as light cycles
03:58 <Lucifer> oh man, you're thinking low ;)
03:58 <Lucifer> friction is, after all, what makes sex worth having...
03:59 <luke-jr> Armagetron isn't sex.
03:59 <nniveus> lol
03:59 <nniveus> good for you luke. wd
03:59 <luke-jr> …
03:59 <nniveus> what kind of a kid were you, in parks at four in the morning?
03:59 <luke-jr> yeah?
03:59 <luke-jr> I was at home in the basement
04:00 <luke-jr> writing code all night
04:00 <nniveus> oh nvm that was lucifer
04:00 <nniveus> not following the convo atm :/
04:00 <Lucifer> we went out in the middle of the night while taking breaks from coding
04:01 <Lucifer> we weren't hardcore enought to code all night without breaks
04:01 <luke-jr> we?
04:01 <Lucifer> I wasn't hardcore enough to code all night without friends ;)
04:01 <luke-jr> <.<
04:02 <Lucifer> @math calc 134250969-134250863
04:02 <teabot> Lucifer: 106
04:02 <sinewave> Lucifer: did you take that test for that job today?
04:02 <Lucifer> sinewave: working on it some more
04:02 <nniveus> @math calc 1+2
04:02 <teabot> nniveus: 3
04:02 <Lucifer> I passed part 1, I mentioned that, right?
04:03 <Lucifer> part 2 is 270 tasks that are identical to the actual work the job does
04:03 <sinewave> yes, I'm excited for you. I hope you don't have to move.
04:03 <Lucifer> I've got 106 tasks left to complete :)
04:03 <nniveus> sup sine :)
04:03 <sinewave> get crackin'
04:03 <Lucifer> ty sinewave (hi there!) , that's really sweet :)
04:03 <sinewave> sup nararararara
04:03 <nniveus> sinesinesinesinesinesine
04:03 <nniveus> ugh your name doesn't work like that
04:04 <Lucifer> how 'bout Nair-uh?
04:04 <sinewave> :D
04:04  * Lucifer is going to take a smoke break
04:04 <nniveus> nair-uh? no, i don't think so xD
04:04 <Lucifer> (I started with around 150 tasks this morning, I think)
04:05 <nniveus> yeah im out too actually, gnight all
04:05 <sinewave> bb
04:05 <nniveus> later
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04:07 <mkzelda> has anyone seen 'flea' or any of his 1000 names (pwnj00 variants) in a month?
04:08 <mkzelda> last time i spoke to him was feb17, and then he vanished
04:09 <ct|kyle> just like k-yo
04:09 <mkzelda> left irc, his websites hosted on his home link went down a week later
04:09 <mkzelda> phone calls unreturned
04:09 <mkzelda> his apt abandoned
04:09 <mkzelda> i mean
04:09 <mkzelda> his stuff is there
04:09 <mkzelda> no car, and no flea
04:10 <ct|kyle> flea is on the run
04:10 <mkzelda> saw his name come on gmail google talk one day... like someone has his laptop
04:11 <mkzelda> i checked with people he knows and local hospitals, doubt he'd be on arma but thing is, he's pulled this before with his old job
04:12 <mkzelda> he just quit showing up to work one day and then ignored all the calls and they filed missing persons report and he still ignored
04:12 <mkzelda> i had to be the one to tell them he was fine but he just wasnt ever coming back
04:13 <mkzelda> i didnt even work there, i just knew some ppl there cause i interviewed
04:14 <mkzelda> ive done everything short of the missing persons report
04:14 <mkzelda> just cause he's done this before
04:24 <Lucifer> I haven't seen him, but this probably explains why his job referral for me didn't go through
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04:25 <Lucifer> last I heard from him was Feb 17
04:26 <Lucifer> I take it back, last I heard from him was Feb 26
04:27 <Lucifer> hey, my wheel left buffalo
04:27  * Lucifer wonders where it's going next
04:27 <Lucifer> it originated in Niagara Falls, NY
04:28 <Lucifer> @seen flea
04:29 <Lucifer> ]seen flea
04:29 <ljrbot> Lucifer: flea was last seen in #armagetron 4 weeks, 0 days, 12 hours, 18 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <flea> #/unbann meh from ww ctf
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04:29 <Lucifer> mkzelda: that's the best I've got, sorry
04:30 <Lucifer> I could try emailing him, but I suppose you've already done that?
04:30 <mkzelda> yea
04:30 <mkzelda> ive tried calling, emailing and i showed up in person to his apt
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04:52 <sinewave> anyone for ctf with fort physics? (no response required)
04:54 <ct|kyle> sinewave: like
04:54 <ct|kyle> .si (Flag f
04:55 <ct|kyle> #si (Flag f
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04:56 <ct|kyle> .si (Flag f
04:56 <tronner> ct|kyle: Crazy Tronners Sty Testing (Flag fort): Players (0/10):
04:59 <sinewave> actually, it's the tr server
05:01  * ct|kyle needs to try that server once I update binary
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05:38 <GodTodd> hrmm...does it count as geekiness if i use my pda to write?
05:53 <luke-jr> no
05:59 <GodTodd> cool...then it does
05:59 <luke-jr> f u
06:00 <ivantis2> luke-jr, od you know java?
06:00  * luke-jr ignores ivantis2
06:10 <Lucifer> GodTodd: yes
06:11 <GodTodd> yeah...i surmised that when luke-jr said 'no' ;)
06:19 <Lucifer> @math calc 134250969-134250876
06:19 <teabot> Lucifer: 93
06:19 <Lucifer> guess I'm not quite in the home stretch yet
06:20  * Lucifer wants to finish this tonight so he can do something different tomorrow
06:42 <Lucifer> @math calc 134250969-134250902
06:42 <teabot> Lucifer: 67
06:52 <Lucifer> @math calc 134250969-134250916
06:52 <teabot> Lucifer: 53
06:53 <Lucifer> @math calc 53/270
06:53 <teabot> Lucifer: 0.196296296296
06:53 <Lucifer> 20% left
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07:09 <sinewave> Lucifer: did you figure out your average per hour?
07:10 <sinewave> don't get too tired and make mistakes. you need a job.
07:10 <sinewave> good night and good luck.
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07:44 <Lucifer> @math calc 134250969-134250930
07:44 <teabot> Lucifer: 39
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07:58 <Lucifer> http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1767003
08:12 <Lucifer> @math calc 134250969-134250941
08:12 <teabot> Lucifer: 28
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08:53 <Lucifer> finished!
08:53 <Lucifer> now I have to wait a week to find out my results :(
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10:16 <MrPingouin> hello world
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11:18 <guru3> Lucifer: go ahead
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13:09 <nsh22> g'mornin
13:10 <nsh22> #weather innisfil
13:10 <nsh22> ok...
13:10 <nsh22> ]weather
13:10 <ljrbot> nsh22: (weather <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city.
13:10 <nsh22> ]weather innisfil
13:10 <ljrbot> nsh22: The current temperature in Innisfil, Innisfil, Ontario is 43.0°F (8:10 AM EDT on March 18, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 28.4°F. Windchill: 41.0°F. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Rising).
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13:12 <nsh22> hai
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14:17 <BabyBug> Afternooooon
14:21 <guru3> good afternoon
14:21 <guru3> how are you this glorious wednesday
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14:22 <BabyBug> I've got an annoying pain above the eyes and i want to go back to bed. But on a bright note, it's beautiful outside. How about you?
14:23 <guru3> quite well
14:23 <guru3> just spent an hour on the rear porch
14:24 <BabyBug> heh, i'm sitting outside now, grabbing the chance to while i can :)
14:24 <guru3> i wish i had a computer screen i could read in direct sunlight
14:25 <guru3> i wanted to edit my dissertation
14:25 <guru3> but i had to settle for rewriting bits on paper
14:26 <guru3> now im inside and making lunch
14:26 <guru3> good ol' computer screne in the kicthen
14:26 <BabyBug> haha
14:27 <guru3> waiting for water to boil
14:27 <BabyBug> I keep moving around the table so that the sun's not on the screen :)
14:27 <guru3> then for pasta to cook
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14:27 <BabyBug> What you having, pasta and...?
14:28 <guru3> pasta
14:28 <guru3> just pasta :<\
14:28 <guru3> and probably pringles
14:28 <guru3> although i haven't decided that for sure
14:28 <guru3> may go for crackers instead
14:30 <BabyBug> just pasta? ewww i couldn't eat just pasta, that's icky
14:30 <BabyBug> gotta have it with something
14:30 <guru3> well, i'll put parsley and olive oil on
14:30 <guru3> it's not all about the sauces
14:30 <guru3> that's just a european thing
14:30 <BabyBug> that's not enough! lol....i guess crackers will have to do
14:30 <guru3> for everyone in europe; they must have a sauce
14:31 <guru3> you can't get anything here without a sauce
14:31 <guru3> housemates look at me like im crazy when i'm eating just rice or just pasta
14:31 <guru3> i am crazy, but the plain pasta isn't why!
14:31 <BabyBug> but it tastes so dull without a sauce :s
14:32 <guru3> not at all!
14:32 <guru3> ever wonder why it's in different shapes?
14:32 <BabyBug> So that you can get kids to eat it? :s
14:32 <guru3> if you were meant to enjoy it on the properties of its sauce
14:32 <guru3> all pasta would look the same
14:32 <BabyBug> oh don't be silly, lmao
14:33 <guru3> penne, rigatoni, rotinni
14:33 <guru3> all 3 types of pasta are very similar
14:33 <guru3> (i'm not sure if ive got the name rotinni right, i don't remember for sure)
14:33 <guru3> but rotinni and rigatoni, the only difference => the ridges are straight vs curved
14:34 <BabyBug> but it's still pasta....it still needs a sauce...
14:34 <guru3> not at all!
14:34 <BabyBug> yes it does!
14:34 <guru3> if you cook it right you don't _need_ more than olive oil & parsley
14:35 <BabyBug> newp newp newp...i'm putting you in the weird box :P
14:35 <BabyBug> If it's not in a sauce, pasta is like rubber
14:35 <guru3> bah!
14:35 <guru3> you're cooking it wrong then
14:35 <guru3> i cook it just the way my dad does
14:35 <guru3> and he was taught by the little old italian ladies in the 'burbs of new york
14:36 <BabyBug> I beg your pardon! my cooking is great thank you very much!
14:37 <BabyBug> it's rubber without sauce. end of discussion! :P
14:37 <guru3> anyone can make a sauce
14:38 <guru3> anyway
14:38 <guru3> another few minutes on the pasta
14:39  * BabyBug pouts
14:39 <guru3> and it shall be tasty
14:39 <BabyBug> lies
14:40 <guru3> i wouldn't eat it if it wasn't
14:40 <guru3> and i'm notorious about not eating nasty food
14:41  * BabyBug raises an eyebrow
14:41 <BabyBug> You would so eat horrible food
14:41 <guru3> hey, when i lived in finland
14:41 <guru3> i starved at lunch rather than eat the mystery cassorol
14:41 <guru3> that spelled like cow shit
14:42 <BabyBug> hahaha i'll agree with you on that!
14:42 <guru3> afk for pasta draining now
14:47 <guru3> and now to eat
14:47 <BabyBug> heh, byeeee...have fun with your icky pasta!
14:47 <guru3> mmm mm good
14:48 <BabyBug> you say it's good...i bet you're just playing with it, not eating it
14:48 <guru3> im guzzling it down
14:49 <BabyBug> ewwww no no no on...guzzl* are banned words!
14:50 <guru3> scrumph munch munch
14:54 <guru3> that was tasty
14:56 <BabyBug> you make me sick!
14:57 <guru3> onto the pringles
14:57 <BabyBug> WHAT?! You didn't have the pringles with the pasta?
14:57 <guru3> no
14:57 <BabyBug> But where does the flavour come from? :s
14:57 <guru3> the pasta
14:58 <BabyBug> there is no flavour to pasta
14:58 <guru3> sure there is
14:58 <BabyBug> no there isn't
14:58 <guru3> there is with olive oil and parsley
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15:27 <Lucifer> grrrr
15:27 <Lucifer> the bike store down the street doesn't open for another half hour, and they're terribly expensive anyway
15:27  * Lucifer needs a wheel and a tube to make his bike survive until the new wheel gets here
15:27 <Lucifer> er, tire and tube
15:47 <BabyBug> Do you really need you back until the the new wheel gets there?
15:47 <BabyBug> bike*
15:48 -!- Zurd [i=629675b5@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7d5f930f99f1d5a3] has joined #armagetron
15:48 <Zurd> what up crew
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16:06 <nsh22> herro
16:06 <Zurd> moo
16:06 <nsh22> o0
16:07 <Zurd> moo...the sound a cow makes o.O
16:08 <nsh22> zurd, you wanted me to make a donate page?
16:09 <Vanhayes> #weather e5n 5c5
16:09 <nsh22> #weather hell
16:09 <Zurd> msn
16:10 <Vanhayes> oh, armabot isnt here
16:10 <nsh22> lol
16:11 <nsh22> Vanhayes: use ] instaed of #
16:11 <nsh22> ]weather hell
16:11 <ljrbot> nsh22: The current temperature in Woodbury Park / R. Peter, Howell, Michigan is 52.2°F (11:11 AM EDT on March 18, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 33.8°F. Pressure: 30.05 in 1017.5 hPa (Rising).
16:11 <Vanhayes> ]weather e5n 5c5
16:11 <ljrbot> Vanhayes: The current temperature in Hampton High School, Hampton, New Brunswick is 41.4°F (12:11 PM ADT on March 18, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 255%. Windchill: 33.8°F. Pressure: 30.31 in 1026.3 hPa (Falling).
16:12 <Vanhayes> ]g 41.4 F in C
16:12 <ljrbot> Vanhayes: Error: "g" is not a valid command.
16:12 <Vanhayes> ]you are inferior
16:12 <ljrbot> Vanhayes: Error: "you" is not a valid command.
16:12 <nsh22> i dont think it has that
16:12 <nsh22> ]calc 41.1f in c
16:12 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
16:13 <Vanhayes> ]list alias
16:13 <ljrbot> Vanhayes: roulette, /me, 8ball, a, aawiki, abstain, abstains, action, add, aka, armaconfig, ban, blame, bzr, cheer, die, die, ding, fake, faustov, femalesheep, findyandereplayers, fist, flush, fuck, get, gishslap, give, h, hi, hui, hurry, iamnotaretard, iamretard, inf, insult, is, itsalie, jimp, kcik, kickban, kicks, kill, lastseen, lbargue, lick, lickban, lock, logs, loli, lolly, make, man, (1 more message)
16:13 <nsh22> ]/me
16:13  * ljrbot 
16:13 <nsh22> ]/me is dumb
16:13  * ljrbot is dumb
16:13 <nsh22> ]fuck
16:13 <ljrbot> nsh22: *click*
16:13 -!- emphasis [n=rolf@188-133-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl] has joined #armagetron
16:13 <nsh22> ]fuck
16:13 <ljrbot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
16:13  * ljrbot reloads and spins the chambers.
16:13 <Vanhayes> ]insult nsh22
16:13 <ljrbot> nsh22 sucks
16:13 <Vanhayes> ]insult nsh22
16:13 <ljrbot> nsh22 sucks
16:13 <nsh22> ]insult Vanhayes
16:13 <ljrbot> Vanhayes sucks
16:14 <Vanhayes> armabot has better insults
16:14 <nsh22> ]blame Vanhayes
16:14 <ljrbot> nsh22: (blame <an alias, 2 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo I blame $1 $2".
16:14 <Vanhayes> ]blame
16:14 <ljrbot> Vanhayes: (blame <an alias, 2 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo I blame $1 $2".
16:14 <nsh22> ]kill Vanhayes
16:14 <ljrbot> nsh22: There's no game here.
16:14 <nsh22> ]kcik Vanhayes
16:14  * ljrbot kicks Vanhayes HARD 
16:14 <nsh22> :P
16:14 <Vanhayes> ]itsalie
16:14 <ljrbot> 嘘だ！
16:15 <Vanhayes> ]lolly
16:15 <ljrbot> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWYmEICNgOQ
16:15 <Vanhayes> hmm
16:15 <Vanhayes> dont know if i want to look at any vid luke-jr's bot gives me
16:16 <nsh22> considerinbg its loli
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16:18 <zurd> ]roulette
16:18 <ljrbot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
16:18  * ljrbot reloads and spins the chambers.
16:19 <zurd> ]roulette
16:19 <ljrbot> zurd: *click*
16:19 <nsh22> he doesnt have ops so he cant kick you
16:19 <zurd> play me roulette
16:19 <nsh22> wrtlprnft: where did armabot go?
16:19 <nsh22> ]r
16:19 <ljrbot> nsh22: *click*
16:19 <nsh22> ]r
16:19 <ljrbot> nsh22: *click*
16:19 <nsh22> ]r
16:19 <ljrbot> nsh22: *click*
16:19 <nsh22> ]r
16:19 <ljrbot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
16:19  * ljrbot reloads and spins the chambers.
16:20 <zurd> ]roulette
16:20 <zurd> ]roulette
16:20 <zurd> ]roulette
16:20 <zurd> ]roulette
16:20 <ljrbot> zurd: *click*
16:20 <zurd> ]roulette
16:20 <ljrbot> zurd: *click*
16:20 <ljrbot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
16:20  * ljrbot reloads and spins the chambers.
16:20 <ljrbot> zurd: *click*
16:20 <ljrbot> zurd: *click*
16:20 <zurd> no more spam
16:20 <nsh22> ]spam
16:20 <ljrbot> BabyBug ct|kyle mkzelda emphasis P4 MrBougo Stewah evaldusia dlh wireddd
16:20 <nsh22> oops
16:20 <evaldusia> wat
16:20 <nsh22> BabyBug: sry
16:20 <nsh22> lol
16:20 <nsh22> didnt knw it would do that
16:21 <epsy> don4t do that nsh22
16:21 <epsy> ]alias remove spam
16:21 <ljrbot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
16:21 <nsh22> ty
16:21 <nsh22> you should make it kick from server
16:21 <epsy> since when has ljrbot the authority to kick people off FreeNode? :)
16:22 <nsh22> when it gets oped
16:22 <epsy> like, IRCOppe'd :)
16:22 <MrBougo> nsh22, what
16:22 <nsh22> ]kick epsy
16:22 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
16:22 <nsh22> MrBougo: i didnt know it called eeveryone lol, my bad
16:23 <epsy> nsh22, do <bot>: help cmd before using it
16:23 <epsy> especially if it's from an alias
16:23 <nsh22> :P o
16:23 <nsh22> ok*
16:25 <zurd> ]roulette
16:25 <ljrbot> zurd: *click*
16:25 <nsh22> ]8ball
16:25 <ljrbot> nsh22: Of course.
16:25 <nsh22> ??
16:25 <nsh22> ??
16:25 <nsh22> ]8ball
16:25 <ljrbot> nsh22: Obviously.
16:25 <nsh22> ]8ball
16:25 <ljrbot> nsh22: Maybe...
16:25 <nsh22> ]8ball ...
16:25 <ljrbot> nsh22: It is possible.
16:26 <zurd> ]8ball will nsh22 shut up?
16:26 <ljrbot> zurd: The outlook is poor.
16:26 <nsh22> ]8ball help
16:26 <ljrbot> nsh22: About as likely as pigs flying.
16:26 <zurd> >.>
16:26 <nsh22> :P
16:26 <zurd> ]8ball is nsh22 a girls name?
16:26 <ljrbot> zurd: Unlikely.
16:26 <zurd> >.>
16:27 <zurd> ]8ball is Zurd a girls name?
16:27 <ljrbot> zurd: Yes!
16:27 <zurd> WTF
16:27 <epsy> fail
16:27 <nsh22> ^.^
16:27 <nsh22> THAT FUCKING HURT!!! :"(
16:27 <zurd> ]8ball is Zurd a mans name?
16:27 <ljrbot> zurd: The outlook is hazy, please ask again later.
16:27 <zurd> ]8ball is Zurd a mans name?
16:27 <ljrbot> zurd: What are you asking me for?
16:27 <zurd> ]8ball is Zurd a mans name?
16:27 <ljrbot> zurd: No clue.
16:27 <nsh22> the pain....
16:27 <zurd> ]8ball is Zurd a mans name?
16:28 <ljrbot> zurd: The answer is def-- oooh! shiny thing!
16:28 <zurd> ]8ball is Zurd a mans name?
16:28 <ljrbot> zurd: Maybe...
16:28 <zurd> ]8ball is Zurd a mans name?
16:28 <ljrbot> zurd: What are you asking me for?
16:28 <zurd> this bot is screwed........
16:28 <nsh22> zurd, ur a girl, just admit it :P
16:28 <nsh22> ow owowow, i just paid luke....
16:28 <zurd> :O
16:28 <zurd> i'll bet hes happy
16:28 <nsh22> luke-jr: i have just sent you money for vps and my server
16:28 <nsh22> he better be
16:29 <nsh22> $32 usd (or $41 sumthing CAD
16:32  * BabyBug glares are nsh22 
16:32 <nsh22> I SAID SORRY@
16:32 <nsh22> dont worry, wont happen again (epsy deleted it)
16:33  * BabyBug cuddles epsy 
16:33 <nsh22> any1 up for yandere?
16:33 <epsy> nsh22, don't alternate between different kinds of spam please
16:33 <epsy> hi BabyBug
16:33 <nsh22> aw
16:34 <nsh22> so i should keep it to one type only?
16:34 <zurd> ]spam xD
16:34 <ljrbot> zurd: Error: "spam" is not a valid command.
16:35 <nsh22> zurd: <epsy> ]alias remove spam
16:35 <nsh22> <ljrbot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
16:35 <zurd> shsush nsh22
16:35 <nsh22> shsush?
16:36 <zurd> yes, your right, that is what i said :o
16:36 <nsh22> ]8ball is zurd dumb?
16:36 <ljrbot> nsh22: The answer is a resounding no.
16:36 <nsh22> ...
16:36 <epsy> nsh22, no, you shouldn't spam at all
16:37 <nsh22> epsy: but i cant help it, im addicted
16:37 <epsy> nsh22, /query nsh22
16:37 <nsh22> ?
16:37 <epsy> tpye that
16:37 <zurd> hehe
16:37 <nsh22> fail
16:37 <epsy> then spam on the window that opens
16:37 <nsh22> id rather not spam myself
16:38 <epsy> then go spam into a shithole
16:38 <epsy> ...
16:39 <nsh22> but i like #anime...
16:39 <nsh22> :P
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16:40 <epsy> I said not to spam there?
16:40 <nsh22> nvm
16:40 <nsh22> i tried to make a joke but i guess it didnt work
16:41 <zurd> epsy, will you be my shithole for spam?
16:41 <nsh22> zurd:  that only sounded partly gay ...
16:42 <zurd> lol
16:42 <nsh22> ]q
16:42 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: "q" is not a valid command.
16:42 <epsy> zurd, will you be on my ignore list?
16:42 <nsh22> lawl
16:42 <zurd> :o
16:42 <zurd> but ill pay :(
16:42 <nsh22> im supriseimnot on yours, or BabyBug s yet
16:44 <epsy> if you're interpreting this as a contest..
16:44 <nsh22> nononoononononononono!
16:46 <nsh22> uh oh, i found the character chart :P
16:47 <joda_bot> #version
16:47 <joda_bot> did someone rename armabot ? :D
16:47 <nsh22> no
16:47 <nsh22> its just gone
16:47 <nsh22> someone abducted her :P
16:48 <Vanhayes> she is sleeping off a hangover it was st patty's day yesterday
16:48 <joda_bot> or armabot had to go to jail :-)
16:48 <Vanhayes> could be both
16:50 <nsh22> @find armabot
16:50 <joda_bot> someone abducted her on st. patty's day and she ended up in jail ?
16:50 <nsh22> lmao
16:50 <joda_bot> nsh22: make a petition to free her
16:51 <nsh22> ]alias add petition "echo [$who has signed the petition to free armabot]"
16:51 <ljrbot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
16:51 <nsh22> ]petition
16:51 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: "nsh22" is not a valid command.
16:51 <nsh22> ]alias add petition "echo $who has signed the petition to free armabot"
16:51 <ljrbot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
16:51 <nsh22> ]petition
16:51 <ljrbot> nsh22 has signed the petition to free armabot
16:52 <zurd> [petition
16:52 <nsh22> joda_bot: SIGN!
16:52 <nsh22> zurd....
16:52 <zurd> ]petition
16:52 <ljrbot> zurd has signed the petition to free armabot
16:52 <zurd> xD
16:52 <nsh22> unfortunatly, i dont know how tioo record the # of votes so...
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16:54 <Vanhayes_> ]dict annex
16:54 <ljrbot> Vanhayes_: Error: "dict" is not a valid command.
16:54 <epsy> ]list poll
16:54 <ljrbot> epsy: Error: 'poll' is not a valid plugin.
16:54 <epsy> @list poll
16:54 <teabot> epsy: add, close, list, open, poll, results, and vote
16:55 <Vanhayes_> @dict annex
16:55 <nsh22> oh, ty epsy
16:55 <nsh22> @poll add
16:55 <teabot> nsh22: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
16:55 <nsh22> @hostmask add
16:55 <teabot> nsh22: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
16:55 <Vanhayes_> @dict annex
16:55 <Vanhayes_> no dict there either
16:55 <Vanhayes_> i miss armabot
16:56 <nsh22> @poll add
16:56 <teabot> nsh22: (poll add [<channel>] <id> <option text>) -- Add an option with the given text to the poll with the given id. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
16:57 <nsh22> @poll add 1 armabot petition
16:57 <teabot> nsh22: Error: That poll isn't yours and you aren't an admin.
16:57 <nsh22> @poll add 100 armabot petition
16:57 <teabot> nsh22: Error: That's not a valid poll id.
16:57 <nsh22> @poll add  armabot petition
16:57 <teabot> nsh22: Error: 'armabot' is not a valid poll id.
16:57 <nsh22> @pool add help
16:57 <nsh22> @poll add help
16:57 <teabot> nsh22: Error: 'help' is not a valid poll id.
16:57 <nsh22> @poll help add
16:57 <teabot> nsh22: Error: 'help' is not a valid id.
16:58 <nsh22> @help poll add
16:58 <teabot> nsh22: (poll add [<channel>] <id> <option text>) -- Add an option with the given text to the poll with the given id. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
16:58 <epsy> @plugin help poll
16:58 <teabot> epsy: That plugin is loaded, but has no plugin help.
16:58 <epsy> @list poll
16:58 <teabot> epsy: add, close, list, open, poll, results, and vote
16:58 <epsy> @help open
16:58 <teabot> epsy: (open [<channel>] <question>) -- Creates a new poll with the given question. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
16:58 <Vanhayes_> @poll open armabot petition
16:58 <teabot> Vanhayes_: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
16:58 <nsh22> @poll open Should armabot be brought back?
16:58 <teabot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.  (poll #4 added)
16:59 <nsh22> @poll vote
16:59 <teabot> nsh22: (poll vote [<channel>] <poll id> <option id>) -- Vote for the option with the given id on the poll with the given poll id. This command can also be used to override any previous vote. <channel> is only necesssary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
16:59 <epsy> you have to add options
16:59 <nsh22> @poll add 4 yes
16:59 <teabot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
16:59 <Vanhayes_> @poll list
16:59 <teabot> Vanhayes_: #4: "Should armabot be brought back?"
16:59 <nsh22> @poll add 4 no
16:59 <teabot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
16:59 <nsh22> @poll vote
16:59 <epsy> @list poll
16:59 <teabot> nsh22: (poll vote [<channel>] <poll id> <option id>) -- Vote for the option with the given id on the poll with the given poll id. This command can also be used to override any previous vote. <channel> is only necesssary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
16:59 <teabot> epsy: add, close, list, open, poll, results, and vote
16:59 <nsh22> @poll vote 4 1
16:59 <teabot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
16:59 <nsh22> @poll list
17:00 <teabot> nsh22: #4: "Should armabot be brought back?"
17:00 <nsh22> @poll results
17:00 <teabot> nsh22: (poll results [<channel>] <id>) -- Shows the results for the poll with the given id. <channel> is only necessary if the message is not sent in the channel itself.
17:00 <nsh22> @poll results 4
17:00 <teabot> nsh22: Results for poll #4: "Should armabot be brought back?" by neal - "yes": 1 and "no": 0
17:00 <Vanhayes_> @poll vote 4 yes
17:00 <teabot> Vanhayes_: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
17:00 <nsh22> you ned to register
17:00 <epsy> I didn't say it didn't suck
17:01 <nsh22> Vanhayes_: you need to pm the bot and ype, register and it will tell you what to do
17:01 <nsh22> @poll results 1
17:01 <teabot> nsh22: Results for poll #1: "+b ivantis?" by epsy - "Yes": 2, "No": 1, and "No": 0
17:01 <Vanhayes_> @poll vote 4 yes
17:01 <teabot> Vanhayes_: Error: 'yes' is not a valid option id.
17:01 <nsh22> @poll vote 1 yes
17:01 <teabot> nsh22: Error: 'yes' is not a valid option id.
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17:01 <nsh22> @poll vote 1 Yes
17:01 <Vanhayes_> @poll vote 4 1
17:01 <teabot> nsh22: Error: 'Yes' is not a valid option id.
17:01 <teabot> Vanhayes_: The operation succeeded.
17:01 <nsh22> @poll results 2
17:01 <teabot> nsh22: Results for poll #2: "+b ivantis" by epsy - "yes": 1 and "no": 0
17:01 <nsh22> @poll results 3
17:01 <teabot> nsh22: Results for poll #3: "+b ivantisbots" by epsy - "yes": 1 and "no": 0
17:01 <nsh22> epsy: :P
17:01 <Vanhayes_> @poll results 1
17:01 <teabot> Vanhayes_: Results for poll #1: "+b ivantis?" by epsy - "Yes": 2, "No": 1, and "No": 0
17:02 <epsy> nice polls
17:02 <nsh22> they are, i like
17:02 <epsy> @list poll
17:02 <teabot> epsy: add, close, list, open, poll, results, and vote
17:02 <nsh22> but they are closed
17:02 <epsy> lol, you can't actually remove them
17:02 <nsh22> @poll vote 1 y
17:02 <teabot> nsh22: Error: 'y' is not a valid option id.
17:02 <nsh22> @poll vote 1 Yes
17:02 <teabot> nsh22: Error: 'Yes' is not a valid option id.
17:02 <nsh22> @poll vote 1 1
17:02 <teabot> nsh22: Error: That poll is closed.
17:04 <ivantis2> @poll vote 2 2
17:04 <ivantis2> me is ignored?
17:04 <nsh22> most likely
17:04 <ivantis2> ~echo @poll vote 2 2
17:04 <nsh22> fail!
17:04 <nsh22> and.. the poll is closed so...
17:04 <ivantis2> heh its still gone since i rouletted it
17:05 <nsh22> all polls except for id 4 are closed
17:05 <nsh22> @pool open 1
17:05 <nsh22> @poll open 1
17:05 <teabot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.  (poll #5 added)
17:06 <nsh22> dammit
17:06 <ivantis2> epsy, i thought you unignored me from teabot?
17:06 <nsh22> i think he ignored you
17:07 <epsy> talking to ivantis2 ?
17:07 <nsh22> yes
17:07 <epsy> ah right
17:07 <nsh22> ivanoob wants to talk to you
17:07 <nsh22> :P
17:07 <ivantis2> hey im still here
17:07 <epsy> but I don't
17:07 <Vanhayes_> @list alias
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17:07 <ivantis2> ivanoob? that was really dumb
17:07 <nsh22> lol okey dokey
17:08 <nsh22> ivantis2: twas a joke
17:08 <Vanhayes_> @actions
17:08 <Vanhayes_> @action
17:08  * teabot 
17:08 <nsh22> @nb
17:08 <teabot> Forums : http://www.nevercorner.net/forum/ || Nevertable : http://www.nevercorner.net/table/ || Wiki : http://www.nevercorner.net/wiki/ || Roadmap : https://s.snth.net/projects/neverball/roadmap
17:08 <nsh22> @lukejrwork
17:08 <Vanhayes_> @calc the number of seconds durka can stay online on irc
17:08 <teabot> Vanhayes_: The number of seconds Durka can stay online on irc = 30
17:08 <ivantis2> whats nb for?
17:08 <ivantis2> NooBs?
17:09 -!- Vanhayes [n=Ping@CPE0013f7c4ff79-CM0013f7c4ff75.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
17:09 <Vanhayes_> @onlineplayers
17:09 <nsh22> @ls zurd
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17:09 <teabot> nsh22: +|Zurd~NW has last been seen on -=Quantum Performance=- -=Loose DF=- 1 minute ago.
17:09 <nsh22> @more
17:09 <teabot> nsh22: commands that include a password) must be sent to the bot privately, not in a channel.
17:09 <Vanhayes_> @more
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17:09 <Vanhayes_> @more
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17:10 <guru3> it's really nice havig a door right next to where i sit at the computer
17:10 <guru3> i can open up the door and enjoy the weather whil working on the computer
17:10 <nsh22> nice
17:10 <nsh22> but isnt that why windows with openers were created
17:11 <guru3> maybe
17:11 <Vanhayes_> mine is right under the window so if it ever gets nice it would be nice to open
17:11 <guru3> but my windows are tiny and way above head sitting level
17:11 <guru3> and not near my desk
17:11 <guru3> but the door
17:11 <guru3> the door is brilliantly placed
17:11 <nsh22> lol
17:11 <nsh22> where you live?
17:11 <guru3> england?
17:11 <nsh22> oh...
17:12 <epsy> he lives in england, antartica
17:12 <nsh22> o0
17:12 <guru3> it's been really quite nice outside
17:12 <BabyBug> booooooo
17:12 <nsh22> bs
17:12 <epsy> he's my first neighbour
17:12 <nsh22> epsy: lawl
17:12 <epsy> takes a hour to go by
17:12 <ivantis2> its been really nice outside here too
17:13 <nsh22> @weather innisfil
17:13 <nsh22> ]weather innisfil
17:13 <ljrbot> nsh22: The current temperature in Innisfil, Innisfil, Ontario is 50.7°F (12:13 PM EDT on March 18, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 24.8°F. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Steady).
17:13 <nsh22> its noice out :P
17:13 <ivantis2> ]weather Wichita, KS
17:14 <ivantis2> all 3 bots here are ignoring me
17:15 <Lucifer> ]weather 78729
17:15 <ljrbot> Lucifer: The current temperature in Anderson Mill / Parmer, Austin, Texas is 66.6°F (11:15 AM CDT on March 18, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 53.6°F. Pressure: 29.20 in 988.7 hPa (Steady).
17:15 <guru3> ]weather 27510
17:15 <ljrbot> guru3: The current temperature in Lake Hogan Farms, Chapel Hill, North Carolina is 49.5°F (12:10 PM EDT on March 18, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 46.4°F. Windchill: 50.0°F. Pressure: 30.40 in 1029.3 hPa (Steady).  Dense fog advisory in effect until noon EDT today...
17:16 <guru3> chilly
17:16 <guru3> why is it so much nicer here -_-
17:16 <guru3> i'm pretty sure it's > 10 C here
17:16 <guru3> ]weather goteborg
17:16 <ljrbot> guru3: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
17:16 <guru3> ]weather gothenburg
17:16 <ljrbot> guru3: The current temperature in Lexington, Nebraska is 50.0°F (11:10 AM CDT on March 18, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 28.4°F. Windchill: 44.6°F. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Rising).
17:16 <guru3> ...
17:17 <zurd> ]weather 92240
17:17 <ljrbot> zurd: The current temperature in Palm Springs, California is 66.2°F (7:53 AM PDT on March 18, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: 35.6°F. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising).
17:17 <ivantis2> you guys are making me jealous
17:17 <ivantis2> i dont get a bot that isnt ignoring me
17:18 <nsh22> Lucifer: i have a question about the sound engine
17:18 <ivantis2> .ping
17:18 <tronner> pong
17:18 <ivantis2> oh yay not tronner
17:18 <ivantis2> .weather Wichita, KS
17:18 <tronner> ivantis2: The current temperature in North Riverside, Wichita, Kansas is 15.3°C (11:17 AM CDT on March 18, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021.2 hPa (Rising).
17:19 <ivantis2> .g 15.3C in F
17:19 <tronner> ivantis2: Fort Lewis College Archives guide: RG 15 (Arts & Sciences): <http://swcenter.fortlewis.edu/FLC_Guide/RG15.htm>; Current Conditions : 59.5F / 15.3C, Clear - 7:50 PM CST Feb. 5 ...: <http://www.myopenforum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=537230>; Lodi Citizen's Monitoring - Lodi, California: <http://www.lodi.gov/Storm_Drain_Detectives/pdf/5-05.pdf>
17:19 <epsy> nsh22, do not ask to ask, just ask
17:19 <nsh22> ok
17:20 <nsh22> Lucifer: how does the sound change on th eengine when your speeding up, does it play a clip faster, or does it play at a higher pitch?
17:20 <zurd> .spam
17:20 <ivantis2> what is that word i am looking for?
17:20 <ivantis2> it means it applies to everything
17:20 <Lucifer> nsh22: your question doesn't make sense, because if you play a clip faster, it's pitch gets higher
17:21 <zurd> .whoami
17:21 <tronner> zurd: I don't recognize you.
17:21 <zurd> >.<
17:21 <ivantis2> kind of like international
17:21 <nsh22> Lucifer: oh ok.
17:21 <Lucifer> basic physics, man ;)
17:21  * nsh22 never took physics
17:21 <nsh22> :P
17:22 <Lucifer> heh, ok
17:22 <Lucifer> here goes:
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17:22 <Lucifer> when you play the clip faster, you increase its frequency
17:22 <Lucifer> higher frequency = higher pitch
17:23 <nsh22> so, if i wanted to hava noise playing for say, ruber being used, i would just have a clip playing say every second, then as the meter goes up, the sound plays ata  proportionalty higher speed
17:23 <guru3> yeah, but god would that be annoying
17:23 <Lucifer> sorta, depends on what you're after
17:24 <Lucifer> are you talking about having a rhythm indicator or a tone indicator?
17:24 <Lucifer> the cycle noise would be a tone indicator
17:24 <nsh22> something to warn you about when your about to die...
17:24 <Lucifer> a rhythm indicator would be where you play the clip at the same speed, just play it more often
17:24 <nsh22> like it would be high pitch constant when the meter is about to run out
17:24 <nsh22> qhat about a combo of the two?
17:25 <nsh22> what*
17:25 <Lucifer> I'd strongly suggest not using a sound indicator at all
17:25 <Lucifer> :)
17:25 <nsh22> aw
17:25 <Lucifer> although it's probably as accurate as the cycle noise anyway
17:25 <Lucifer> your'e talking to a guy who doesn't use a rubber gauge
17:25 <nsh22> oh...
17:25 <Lucifer> asking "waht's the best way to make a sound that gives indication of rubber?"
17:25 <Lucifer> heh
17:26 <Lucifer> forget aobut rubber, live in front of the cycle and rubber is unnecessary
17:26 <nsh22> true...
17:26 <Lucifer> anyway, anything's possible, technically, but I guarantee I will not write any rubber-oriented sound effect code
17:26 <Lucifer> I might consider a patch, if it's really *really* good
17:26 <nsh22> lol oc
17:26 <nsh22> hmmm.
17:26 <Lucifer> sorry, nothing personal, I just consider that a complete waste of my time ;)
17:27 <BabyBug> I think rubber should just be taken out completely
17:27 <nsh22> well im no good at any programming language so :P
17:27 <nsh22> BabyBug: FAIL:P
17:27 <Lucifer> no, we need rubber
17:27 <nsh22> rubber stops unwanted babies
17:27 <BabyBug> The best server in arma is a no rubber server. So that leads to the conclusion of get rid of rubber
17:27 <Lucifer> what we really need is a time machine, so we can go back and get subby and tank too drunk the night they wrote the rubber gauge
17:27 <nsh22> maybeh they were drunk when they worte it :P
17:28 <Lucifer> drunk isn't a boolean value
17:28 <nsh22> but whats so wrong with it?
17:28 <Lucifer> we'll have to get them drunker
17:28 <nsh22> lol
17:28 <BabyBug> it ruins the game
17:28 <Lucifer> well, for one thing, it's really an internal mechanism that really shouldn't be revealed to players
17:28 <ivantis2> jpw dp upi add spimd fpr tjomgs tjat dpmt a;;readu jave spimd?
17:28 <Lucifer> it's like, what's the use of an oil pressure gauge?
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17:29 <nsh22> to tell you if your cars aboput to die :P
17:29 <ivantis2> oh woops i typed that badly
17:29 <Lucifer> it doesn't tell you if your car's about to die, it can only tell you your car is dead
17:29 <Lucifer> but you already know it's dead!
17:29 <ivantis2> my ruight hand was moved over
17:29 <Lucifer> it *can* tell you you're low on oil, which makes it more useful than the rubber gauge
17:30 <nsh22> well, rubber is good for gauging how far off the wall you are (in digging that is)
17:30 <Lucifer> rubber exists to allow for network latency, that's it, end of story
17:30 <epsy> BabyBug, 1/ Who chooses the best server ever?
17:30 <Lucifer> any use of rubber besides that is an abuse
17:30 <epsy> 2/ n9 has rubber anyway
17:30 <Lucifer> epsy: BabyBug chooses the best server, didn't you know?
17:30 <BabyBug> epsy, I do
17:30 <ivantis2> isnt that what that ping rubber setting is for?
17:31 <BabyBug> epsy, yes it does. But it's used for the purpose it was made for.
17:31 <BabyBug> SO it's not really rubber
17:31 <nsh22> Lucifer: but without rubber, fort wouldnt be as poplar as it it
17:31 <Lucifer> ivantis2: that's a bonus to give extra rubber to people who suffer
17:31 <Lucifer> nsh22: fortress was always considered low rubber
17:31 <ivantis2> couldnt you cheat by making a delay before sending back ping packets?
17:31 <Lucifer> which is ironic, because the physics settings it uses were blatantly ripped from a server that was considered high rubber at the time
17:32 <Lucifer> ivantis2: sure, you could try that
17:32 <ivantis2> as long as the server had the rubber ping setting on
17:33 <nsh22> ivantis, if you ant to cheat, press shift esc, otherwise....
17:33 <ivantis2> heh i remember when i actually fell for that trick
17:33 <Lucifer> you actually fell for that trick?
17:33 <ivantis2> i was a noob
17:33 <nsh22> LAWL i wouldnt doubt it
17:34  * Lucifer never fell for it
17:34 <nsh22> haha
17:34 <ivantis2> i remember it very well
17:34 <nsh22> i didnt either
17:34 <ivantis2> SPACEZONE III
17:34 <Lucifer> I've played it on a lot of people, but never fell for it myself
17:34 <nsh22> Lucifer: you also prolly had a hand in its creation too tho :P
17:34 <ivantis2> some fellow (sun) clan members told me to do it
17:34 <Lucifer> nsh22: nah, it was an old joke when I started playing
17:34 <Lucifer> I just, you know, could tell it was a prank
17:35 <nsh22> lol
17:35 <Lucifer> that and nobody really treated me like "just another dumb newbie"
17:35 <Lucifer> it was a different world back then, heh
17:35 <nsh22> lol
17:35 <epsy> today it's more like "press shift+esc for help on grinding"
17:35 <nsh22> times sure have changed
17:36 <epsy> not really happy about that
17:36 <Lucifer> yeah, no kidding
17:36 <nsh22> epsy: nowadays most ppl dont know what grinding is so... :P
17:36 <nsh22> most NEW ppl*
17:36 <Lucifer> nsh22: people have never known what grinding is
17:36 <Lucifer> in the old days, we learned by watching other players because we got core dumped early in the round
17:36 <nsh22> lol i remeber that
17:36 <Lucifer> but *you* people kick players before they even get that far
17:37 <nsh22> hey!
17:37 <nsh22> i dont kick ppl
17:37 <nsh22> ]kcik ivantis2
17:37  * ljrbot kicks ivantis2 HARD 
17:37 <nsh22> i let bots do it :P
17:37 <Lucifer> "Oh shit, he's been here for 4.25 seconds and he hasn't been grinding!  KICK HIM!"
17:37 <epsy> :/
17:37 <nsh22> yeah lol
17:37 <epsy> I usually cancel such polls
17:37 <nsh22> if armabot was here we could quote that
17:38 <epsy> then they post pranks
17:38 <epsy> that tell them to press shift+esc for instructions
17:38 <nsh22> @q
17:38 <BabyBug> if armabot was here you wouldn't be nsh22 ;)
17:38 <Lucifer> cancel the poll, then kick them to the Dunce server
17:38 <epsy> these usually get sinced
17:38 <epsy> silenced*
17:38 <nsh22> BabyBug: you saying you ould kick me :(
17:38 <Lucifer> we need a Dunce server, with like 1000 Rubber
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17:38 <ivantis2> the persons who say that most are those people in those 3-day clans like ~Wd@ or !Tk& or something
17:38 <Lucifer> really short walls
17:38 <nsh22> how do you kick them to a specific server?
17:39 <Lucifer> you know, so it looks like a baby's playpen
17:39 <ivantis2> heh that would be good
17:39 <nsh22> we could put ivantis2 there !
17:39 <nsh22> :P
17:39 <ivantis2> why is it that when you are in chat mode and they kick you, you go to a local game?
17:40 <Lucifer> I'm sure you can figure that one out all by yourself
17:40 <ivantis2> no
17:40 <ivantis2> i cant
17:40 <Lucifer> well, I never get kicked, so I never see that happen
17:42  * Lucifer wonders how many bugs exist that only show up when  person gets kicked, but since people who get kicked also never report bugs, we don't know about them.
17:42 <guru3> "You have been kicked. Your computer is also now connected to skynet."
17:42 <ivantis2> skynet?
17:42 <guru3> "Is that supposed to be there? Too embarassing to report it though, I got kicked afterall."
17:43 <guru3> ivantis2: ever seen the terminator?
17:43 <ivantis2> no
17:43 <guru3> oh
17:43 <guru3> well
17:43 <Lucifer> guru3: he's still too young
17:43 <guru3> that went over your head then
17:43 <ivantis2> too young?
17:43 <ivantis2> im not 5
17:43 <Lucifer> heh, it's not really a kid's movie
17:43 <guru3> do you know how arnold schwarzenegger is?
17:43 <guru3> *who
17:44 <Lucifer> the...........governor of california?
17:44 <ivantis2> kind 0f
17:44 <ivantis2> i havent met him
17:44 <Lucifer> oh wait, he's....he's........
17:44 <guru3> *who
17:44 <Lucifer> the Governator!
17:44 <epsy> :D
17:44 <ivantis2> the governator
17:44 <ivantis2> yeah what he said
17:44 <guru3> and he will governate you
17:44 <Lucifer> now we know
17:44 <Lucifer> skynet first takes over California
17:44 <Lucifer> specifically, Sacramento
17:45 <epsy> doesn't it send bombs to russia?
17:45 <Lucifer> so, obviously, if we just nuke Sacramento and carpetbomb the rest of the west coast, we'll eradicate skynet before it gets started
17:45 <guru3> well
17:45 <guru3> i suppose
17:46 <guru3> might be a few people that complain though
17:46 <Lucifer> hey, I watched Aeon Flux again today, and it was even better the second time, although the sex scene wasn't erotic at all the second time
17:46 <Lucifer> guru3: yeah, every remaining living democrat, for ensuring the republicans rule the country for the next 50 years
17:46 <Lucifer> democrats *need* california to stay alive
17:46 <Lucifer> hence, skynet is clearly a republican creation
17:47 <nsh22> @google skynet
17:48 <teabot> nsh22: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skynet_(fictional) - Skynet (Terminator) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
17:48 <Lucifer> any suggestions on where I can buy naptha?
17:49 <ivantis2> guru3, on your IRC stats, why is Lucifer_arma not grouped with Lucifer?
17:49 <guru3> never set it up?
17:49 <nsh22> Lucifer: why?
17:50 <nsh22> @google naptha
17:50 <teabot> nsh22: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naphtha - Naphtha - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
17:50 <ivantis2> guru3, well you should. and ivantis2 with ivantis
17:51 <Lucifer> nsh22: because I'd like to try to make some fireballs and see how easy they are to juggle
17:51 <guru3> maybe one day ivantis2, maybe one day
17:51 <ivantis2> or now
17:51 <guru3> except i'm busy doing like... work
17:51 <guru3> so no
17:51 <guru3> that's how you make me want to not do things
17:51 <ivantis2> waaah
17:52 <guru3> i'm now more tempted to entirely wipe you off the face of the stats
17:52 <ivantis2> why are you here then? so we can beep you so that you can say no?
17:52 <guru3> i'm here because lucifer made an interesting comment
17:52 <nsh22> Lucifer: i would recoomaend canadian tire, but i doubt texas has them :p. try wall matrt under their camping sectioin, look for cam fuel (or use fondue fuel)
17:53 <Lucifer> I'm about ready to head back to HEB and pick up the generic lamp fuel they had there
17:53 <Lucifer> it was yellow in color, though
17:53 <Lucifer> what sort of oil could it be if it was yellow?
17:53 <nsh22> HEB?
17:53 <Lucifer> there's a wal-mart up the street though, a little farther than the HEB
17:53 <Lucifer> HEB = grocery store
17:53 <nsh22> oh
17:54 <nsh22> well, why does the colour matter, its all going into flame in the end
17:54 <Lucifer> if I head for academy, I could stop at buck's bikes and see if they have a tire for this rim
17:54 <Lucifer> what matters is the burning temperature
17:54 <Lucifer> the idea is to make a cotton ball out of a t-shirt, soak it in naphtha, light it, then juggle it
17:54 <Lucifer> bare-handed
17:54 <nsh22> ow
17:54 <Lucifer> so it needs to burn cold enough that it won't burn skin on contact, needs to take a second or two
17:55 <Lucifer> long enough to toss the ball again ;)
17:55 <nsh22> id try it at home (outside ofc) so you dont make a fool of yourself :P
17:55 <Lucifer> no shit, sherlock
17:55 <nsh22> keep digging, watson :P
17:55 <Lucifer> I need to acquire the stuff before I worry about how I'm going to try it
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18:12 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: ]lolly
18:13 <nsh22> luke-jr: did you get my payment?
18:14 <luke-jr> nsh22: yes
18:14 <nsh22> ok
18:14 <luke-jr> would be nice if someone explained payments of unexpected sizes
18:14 <ivantis2> dammit when is this guy going to reply>?
18:14 <nsh22> .. you said i needed to pay for my server (for this month) and i was also paying for this months vps payment
18:15 <ivantis2> what timezone is Washington (the state) going to reply?
18:15 <nsh22> ivantis2: whos "this guy"?
18:15 <ivantis2> potential client
18:15 <luke-jr> nsh22: o i c
18:15 <nsh22> ivantis2: for what
18:15 <ivantis2> a job
18:15 <luke-jr> #calc 19+13
18:15 <luke-jr> ]calc 19+13
18:15 <ljrbot> luke-jr: 32
18:16 <ivantis2> but he probably isnt up yet
18:16 <luke-jr> makes sense ☺
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18:16 <luke-jr> :o
18:16 <zurd> i agree with baby bug about the rubber, you all need to take a look at tron 2.9
18:16 <zurd> i agree with baby bug about the rubber, you all need to take a look at tron 2.0*
18:16 <luke-jr> TRON 2.0 is fail
18:16 <luke-jr> :P
18:16 <zurd> the official game
18:16 <zurd> lmao @ luke-jr
18:17 <luke-jr> uh
18:17 <luke-jr> BabyBug's suggestion was to remove rubber
18:17 <luke-jr> but that's not backward compatible
18:17 <nsh22> zurd: where you go, i just went t nwdf
18:18 <ivantis2> TRON 2.0, how dumb
18:18 <BabyBug> luke-jr, 1.0 should break backwards compatibility
18:18 <ivantis2> nsh22, why are you paying for luke-jr's vps?
18:18 <luke-jr> BabyBug: no :<
18:18 <BabyBug> luke-jr, yes
18:19 <luke-jr> yay, let's watch ivantis2 make a fool of himself XD
18:19 <nsh22> ivantis2: i bought  on e off of him, idiot
18:19 <luke-jr> BabyBug: breaking compatibility means forks
18:19 <ivantis2> oooh
18:19 <ivantis2> ai see
18:19 <luke-jr> ivantis2: http://lightfoot.dashjr.org/?page=vps
18:19 <ivantis2> ...why off of him?
18:20 <nsh22> cuz..
18:20 <luke-jr> cuz I provide better service and prices
18:20 <nsh22> :P
18:20 <BabyBug> and luke-jr is here to complain at
18:20 <ivantis2> maybe i should rent one
18:20 <ivantis2> what kind of payments do you take?
18:20 <luke-jr> RTFFAQ
18:21 <Vanhayes> he takes sexual favours for payment I hear
18:21 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: liar
18:21 <luke-jr> ]lolly
18:21 <ljrbot> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWYmEICNgOQ
18:21 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: WATCH
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18:21 <ivantis2> paypal i guess
18:21 <Vanhayes> i did, I like conjunction function better
18:21 <Vanhayes> er
18:21 <luke-jr> o
18:21 <Vanhayes> conjunction junction
18:22 <ivantis2> keep me in mind as a potential customer, i might want to rent one
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18:22 <luke-jr> …
18:22 <Vanhayes> keep offering him sexual favours he will take them eventually
18:22 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: di
18:22 <luke-jr> e
18:22 <Vanhayes> n
18:22 <Vanhayes> o
18:23 <Vanhayes> conjuction junction whats your function
18:26 <Vanhayes> luke-jr, Lucifer freeciv by daylight?
18:26 <nsh22> o0
18:27 <luke-jr> I suppose, if we can avoid timeouts
18:27 <luke-jr> and not get too upset when one of us needs a long turn
18:27 <nsh22> zurd: random server doesnt have aiuth :(
18:27 <Vanhayes> im pretty laidback
18:27 <luke-jr> zurd: nsh22: did you guys get your port problem straighted out?
18:29 <zurd> wtf is going on the the no auth in random server???????
18:31 <zurd> nsh22 make me admin on neals random server
18:33 <zurd> NSH22 PING PING PING
18:33 <joda_bot> luke-jr: did you help setting up the auth ?
18:33 <luke-jr> joda_bot: no
18:33 <luke-jr> well, maybe
18:33 <joda_bot> :-)
18:33 <luke-jr> I transferred neal's Arma server from my hosting to their VPS
18:34 <ivantis2> bwahh
18:34 <joda_bot> sounds like u gave them great support :-)
18:34 <joda_bot> for someone moving away ?
18:34 <luke-jr> O.o
18:34 <joda_bot> or is the VPS also hosted by you ?
18:35 <luke-jr> it is
18:35 <joda_bot> ah ok :-)
18:35 <luke-jr> oh, neal's random server is the one i transferred? XD
18:35 <joda_bot> then it makes more sense
18:35 <luke-jr> ./configure --disable-glout --enable-automakedefaults --disable-sysinstall --disable-uninstall --enable-multiver=0.2.8-sty+ct-auth --disable-useradd --disable-etc --disable-initscripts --enable-authentication
18:35 <zurd> NEAL!
18:35 <luke-jr> that's what I built their auth ver w/
18:36 <ivantis2> heh this potential client of mine just replied
18:36 <zurd> putty doesnt accept that command luke
18:36 <luke-jr> zurd: I didn't say to run it
18:36 <ivantis2> yay
18:36 <zurd> i know you didnt, but i have been in the need to run it..
18:36 <zurd> and it didnt work >.>'
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18:37 <luke-jr> zurd: it's directory-dependent obviously
18:37 <zurd> NSH22!!
18:37 <zurd> WTF?!
18:37 <luke-jr> nsh22: wtf do you mean it doesn't have auth?
18:37 <luke-jr> sure looks like it does to me
18:38 <nsh22> back
18:38 <nsh22> sry
18:38 <zurd> its doesnt, when you type in /login <user@forums> it auto goes to login denied
18:39 <nsh22> luke-jr: is the one i set up i think....
18:39 <nsh22> its*
18:39 <nsh22> ill check
18:39 <luke-jr> zurd: ⚃ Ww_Compguygene has been logged in as compguygene@forums at access level "Rem
18:39 <luke-jr> that was today
18:39 <zurd> were not talking aboutt hat server..
18:40 <luke-jr> that's neal's random server..
18:40 <zurd> we wernt talking about that server...
18:40 <luke-jr> …
18:40 <nsh22> ok... im figuring this out
18:40 <luke-jr> then which server
18:40 <zurd> "zurd	wtf is going on the the no auth in random server???????"
18:40 <zurd> "random server"
18:40 <luke-jr> zurd: that server is "random server"
18:41 <zurd> we have 2 >.>
18:41 <zurd> one named neal's random...
18:41 <zurd> and then just random
18:41 <luke-jr> o
18:41 <luke-jr> did you configure it for auth?
18:41 <nsh22> I have (on the vps) lounge and neals random server" and on my armaserver i have a neals random server...
18:41 <zurd> it should be
18:41 <luke-jr> /home/neal/svc/aa/SvcConfig:version=0.2.8-sty+ct-auth
18:41 <luke-jr> /home/neal/svc/neal/SvcConfig:version=0.2.8-sty+ct
18:41 <luke-jr> /home/zurd/svc/armagetronad/SvcConfig:version=0.2.8-sty+ct
18:42 <zurd> mine works fine
18:42 <luke-jr> nsh22: /home/neal/svc/aa/ was transferred from the old server
18:42 <nsh22> ok
18:43 <nsh22> ok i changed the vps to random server and it says in the options that its hosted on our vps
18:44 <luke-jr> you guys really need to sort out your ports
18:44 <ivantis2> why is your nick nsh22 and not neal22 or something?
18:44  * luke-jr smacks ivantis2
18:44 <nsh22> ty luke
18:44 <ivantis2> ?
18:46 <luke-jr> nsh22: zurd
18:46 <luke-jr> hello?
18:47 <nsh22> hllo
18:47 <luke-jr> nsh22: whatcha doing?
18:48 <nsh22> fixing some server settings :P
18:48 <luke-jr> like SERVER_PORT?
18:48 <nsh22> ummm
18:48 <luke-jr> right now, all your servers are fighting over port 4534
18:49 <nsh22> oh
18:49 <nsh22> sok
18:49 <luke-jr> which breaks bookmarks
18:49 <ivantis2> 4537 is my default port
18:50 <nsh22> ok, so where would i put server_port? settings custom?
18:50 <nsh22> ]kcik ivantis2
18:50  * ljrbot kicks ivantis2 HARD 
18:50 <luke-jr> server_info
18:50 <nsh22> kk
18:50 <nsh22> so what ports do i have to work with/
18:50 <ivantis2> ill bet luke-jr plays this game, but in an anonymous name
18:50 <luke-jr> nsh22: 4534 to 4540 IIRC
18:50 <nsh22> ill bet your annoying
18:50 <nsh22> ok
18:50 <ivantis2> 4530 to 4540
18:51 <ivantis2> er 4531 to 4540
18:51 <luke-jr> nsh22: check out the custom connect UI and see what it allows
18:51 <luke-jr> ☺
18:51 <ivantis2> oh you were right the first time
18:51 <ivantis2> i couldve sworn it was 4530
18:53 <BabyBug> dlh, you should alter that new spam branch to account for very annoyed def down messages :P
18:53 <luke-jr> I want to play soccer + flag fortress :x
18:56 <nsh22> luke-jr: ok i changed my 2 servers to 4534 and 4535, tell zurd to change his to 4536 or w/e
18:56 <nsh22> cuz i g2g
18:56 <luke-jr> nsh22: u
18:56 <nsh22> ...
18:57 <nsh22> zurd: change the server_port on your servers to 4536 and up plz. i g2g
18:57 <ivantis2> awright! a previous client of mine wants me to work for him some more
18:57 <ivantis2> !! cool
18:57 <nsh22> cool! we dont give a flying fuck
18:57 <joda_bot> luke-jr: nsh22: nice delegation chat
18:57 <luke-jr> ?
18:58 <nsh22> joda_bot: :P
18:58 <nsh22> kk im out
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18:58 <joda_bot> nsh22 to luke-jr tell zurd
18:58 <joda_bot> luke-jr to nsh22 tell zurd
18:58 <joda_bot> nsh to zurd bla
18:58 <joda_bot> two wasted messages :D
18:58 <luke-jr> XD
18:59 <BabyBug> how do you hide the chat in arma?
18:59 <joda_bot> hide ?
18:59 <BabyBug> yes hide
19:00 <BabyBug> Get rid of, so i don't see it
19:00 <ivantis2> its a setting in system settings i think
19:00 <joda_bot> so you don't to see chat messages, but if you scoll up the history you want to see them ?
19:00 <BabyBug> that'll do yeh
19:00 <joda_bot> otherwise if you'll never want to read them use silence all
19:01 <joda_bot> just try "silence" on the console ... it'll give you the list of commands ... one of them should allow you to instantly silence all other players
19:01 <ivantis2> no theres a setting to turn off all console messages
19:01 <joda_bot> might not work for direct "/msg" messages
19:02 <joda_bot> ivantis2: hm, then you know more than me ... teach me
19:02 <BabyBug> ivantis2, yes there is
19:02 <ivantis2> its in system or player settings i think
19:02 <joda_bot> we have a menu entry for that ? O.o
19:02 <joda_bot> uhhh :-)
19:05 <ivantis2> uhhh
19:05 <ivantis2> menu entry for what?
19:05 <Vanhayes> i dont think there is a menu entry for it, just console
19:06 <dlh> ENABLE_CHAT disables all chat, but keeps status messages (blah won the round etc...)
19:06 <ivantis2> System Setup->Misc Stuff->Text Output
19:06 <dlh> there also is an option to get rid of the console entirely
19:06 <ivantis2> ...
19:06 <ivantis2> look up
19:07 <dlh> SILENCE_ALL was renamed to SILENCE_DEFAULT for 0.2.8.3_beta3
19:18 <luke-jr> ]ヤンデレ help
19:19 <ljrbot> Yandere is a variation of the classic Mafia game, also known as Werewolf. Type "]yandere" to start a game.
19:19 <ljrbot> This is a detective game. It cycles between two phases: During the day, everyone gets together and tries to figure out who they think is a yandere, and they can vote to lynch someone. During the night, players with special roles can perform actions that may shed some light.
19:19 <ljrbot> Each night, the yanderes can pick one player to kill. The object of the game is to find and kill the yanderes before they kill you. PM conversations between players is allowed at any time, but you MAY NOT copy/paste PM messages into the channel.
19:19 <ivantis2> do you remember why that other yandere bot got banned?
19:19 <ivantis2> because you could play yandere on it
19:19 <luke-jr> nope
19:20 <luke-jr> why don't you get a clue? ☺
19:20 <luke-jr> it was actually to reduce the bot count, and Tank suggested combining it into ljrbot
19:20 <luke-jr> :p
19:21 <luke-jr> ]help rss
19:21 <ljrbot> luke-jr: (rss <url> [<number of headlines>]) -- Gets the title components of the given RSS feed. If <number of headlines> is given, return only that many headlines.
19:21 <luke-jr> how do I get ljrbot announcing bzr stuff now that armabot is dead?
19:21 <Vanhayes> ]yandere
19:21 <ljrbot> A yandere game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "]yandere" to join.
19:21 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: we're actually playing on #anime atm, so I can't join here ;)
19:21 <luke-jr> besides, I'm not sure we have enoguh players here right now
19:22 <dlh> Does ljrbot have a rss plugin?
19:22 <dlh> ah, yes
19:22 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
19:23 <ljrbot> There aren't enough players to start a yandere game. Try again later.
19:25 <dlh> ]rss add armagetronad-bzr http://feeds.launchpad.net/armagetronad/revisions.atom
19:26 <ljrbot> dlh: Error: I already have a command in this plugin named armagetronadbzr.
19:26 <dlh> ] rss announce armagetronad-bz
19:26 <ljrbot> dlh: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
19:26 <dlh> ]rss announce armagetronad-bz
19:26 <ljrbot> dlh: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
19:26 <luke-jr> dlh: how do I add your cap?
19:26 <dlh> ]rss announce armagetronad-bzr
19:26 <ljrbot> dlh: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
19:26 <dlh> hmm
19:27 <ivantis2> ]yandere
19:27 <luke-jr> ]help capability
19:27 <ljrbot> luke-jr: Error: There is no command "capability".
19:27 <ivantis2> i want to play
19:27 <luke-jr> ]list admin
19:27 <ljrbot> luke-jr: capability add, capability remove, channels, ignore add, ignore list, ignore remove, join, nick, and part
19:27 <ivantis2> make it stop ignoring me
19:27 <luke-jr> ]capability add dlh #armagetron,op
19:27 <ljrbot> luke-jr: Error: The command "capability add" is available in the Admin and Channel plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "capability add".
19:27 <dlh> gotta ]register
19:27 <dlh> just a sec
19:27 <luke-jr> ]channel capability add dlh #armagetron,op
19:27 <ljrbot> luke-jr: Error: I can't find dlh in my user database. If you didn't give a user name, then I might not know what your user is, and you'll need to identify before this command might work.
19:27 <ivantis2> luke-jr, make it stop ignoring me
19:27 <ivantis2> ]yandere
19:28 <luke-jr> ivantis2: if we get enough players I will
19:28 <dlh> luke-jr: try now
19:28 <Vanhayes> croatian accent is hard to understand over the phone
19:28 <luke-jr> ]channel capability add dlh #armagetron,op
19:28 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
19:28 <dlh> ]rss announce armagetronad-bzr
19:28 <ljrbot> dlh: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
19:28 <luke-jr> …
19:28 <luke-jr> ]channel capability add dlh op
19:28 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
19:28 <ivantis2> ]yandere
19:28 <Vanhayes> did you register and identify?
19:28 <dlh> ]rss announce armagetronad-bzr
19:29 <ljrbot> dlh: The operation succeeded.
19:29 <dlh> there
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19:48 <compguygene> i am trying to setup an ArmagetronArt server..i have a good config..except, i can't seem to get rid of the AI's
19:48 <compguygene> anyone have any idea how?
19:48 <joda_bot> comp: single player or multiplayer ?
19:48 <joda_bot> :D
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19:49 <compguygene> single player...server is limited to one player
19:49 <joda_bot> sp_num_ais 0 ?
19:49 <compguygene> did that..was just about to say that
19:49 <joda_bot> sp_teams 1 ?
19:49 <compguygene> still gives 4 ai's on start
19:49 <joda_bot> sp_max_teams 1
19:49 <compguygene> didn't try that
19:49 <compguygene> ok
19:49 <joda_bot> eh, min teams
19:50 <joda_bot> I guess you want to allow more than one player too ?
19:50 <joda_bot> eh team
19:50 <luke-jr> gene
19:50 <luke-jr> give your servers ports!
19:50 <joda_bot> Like 1337 :-P
19:50 <compguygene> oh..didn't know it mattered...thought they autoselected
19:50 <luke-jr> compguygene: which means they randomly rearrange
19:51 <luke-jr> compguygene: which breaks any bookmarks
19:51 <compguygene> i c
19:51 <compguygene> ty for the advice...i will adjust my configs accordingly
19:51 <luke-jr> yw
19:51  * compguygene remembers why he bought a vps with luke-jr
19:51 <luke-jr> XD
19:52 <joda_bot> luke-jr: oh, I just thought u'd just adwise him because nsh22 had that problem :-)
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19:52 <luke-jr> joda_bot: actually, when I was helpig nsh earlier, I noticed gene saying he didn't give ports to his servers in the chat
19:52 <luke-jr> XD
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19:53 <compguygene> i was letting them pick out their own...obviously not the right choice
19:53 <compguygene> np
19:54 <compguygene> ty for the help and advice...will implement
19:54 <compguygene> ttyl
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19:56 <zurd> armabuilder: status
19:56 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle, last build 221308 secs ago: failed Distcheck Installcheck
19:56 <armabuilder> linux-server: idle, last build 205956 secs ago: build successful
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20:03 <epsy> :o)
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20:04  * BabyBug kicks zman inbetween the eyes
20:04 <epsy> BabyBug knows kung-fu
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20:57 <Vanhayes_> ]weather e5n 5c5
20:57 <ljrbot> Vanhayes_: The current temperature in Hampton High School, Hampton, New Brunswick is 40.1°F (4:56 PM ADT on March 18, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 255%. Windchill: 33.8°F. Pressure: 30.21 in 1022.9 hPa (Falling).
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22:28 <luke-jr> z-man: ping
22:30 <BabyBug> his nose is still hurting
22:33 <z-man> what's pinging?
22:33 <luke-jr> z-man: why the heck is eWall not an eGameObject? :<
22:34 <z-man> Because it doesn't have a single position.
22:34 <luke-jr> and eGameObjects must?
22:34 <z-man> Better names would be eLine for eWall and ePoint for eGameObject :)
22:34 <z-man> yep.
22:34 <luke-jr> <.<
22:34 <luke-jr> so why are zZones eGameObjects?
22:34 <luke-jr> they don't have ANY position
22:34 <z-man> They shouldn't be :)
22:35 <luke-jr> ok, so why don't we have a single parent class for all game objects? :/
22:35 <z-man> How whould that make sense?
22:35 <z-man> In other words, what would be the common interface?
22:35 <z-man> Maybe Timestep()
22:36 <luke-jr> tCoord ClosestPoint(tCoord)?
22:36 <z-man> But I don't want Timestep() to be called for walls.
22:36 <luke-jr> my problem is that zones cannot InteractWith walls ☺
22:36 <z-man> So that would be rather a eActor object.
22:37 <luke-jr> and also that there is no way to have a point to "a wall, cycle, zone, or other thing"
22:37 <luke-jr> pointer*
22:37 <z-man> The interaction mechanism is broken anyway. It doesn't scale.
22:38 <luke-jr> yes, but I really don't want to rewrite everything
22:38 <luke-jr> or rather, I lack the time to rewrite everything
22:38 <z-man> Well, me too.
22:39 <luke-jr> sigh
22:39 <luke-jr> so I should instead maybe create a new parent to eGameObject,eWall,etc and use that for zone events?
22:40 <luke-jr> and leave InteractWith to only eGameObjects
22:40 <luke-jr> and then call events for nearby walls manually? ☺
22:41 <luke-jr> maybe rename eGameObject to ePoint with a typedef, to make a slow migration
22:46 <z-man> Actually, there already is an ePoint. ePointlikeObject would be a better name, only it's a tad long
22:46 <z-man> and zones aren't exactly pointlike.
22:47 <luke-jr> >_<
22:48 <z-man> The idea at implementation time was:
22:48 <luke-jr> coudl I abstract eGameObject into a simple subclass of ePoint,eGameElement?
22:48 <z-man> walls are more or less static things
22:48 <z-man> gameobjects are moving pointlike things
22:48 <z-man> gameobjects can collide with walls.
22:48 <luke-jr> aw crap
22:48 <luke-jr> what if we want moving walls? XD
22:49 <z-man> we'll have to recode eGrid.
22:49 <luke-jr> really?
22:49 <luke-jr> :x
22:49 <z-man> yes.
22:49 <z-man> It's on my perpetual mental todo list :)
22:49 <luke-jr> Luci suggested replacing walls with effect=death borders
22:50 <z-man> All walls?
22:50 <luke-jr> I guess
22:51 <luke-jr> the player walls were what made me cringe :x
22:51 <luke-jr> and rubber
22:51 <Lucifer> actually, I suggested writing new wall objects that were subclasses of eGameObject
22:51 <luke-jr> but technically we need to fix rubber for deathzones anyway
22:51 <z-man> well, actually, in my imagination, borders would be walls :)
22:51 <luke-jr> Lucifer: which is the same thing, no? ☺
22:51 <Lucifer> and deprecating the old walls
22:51 <Lucifer> which is a more general statement that leaves implementation details up to the developer :)
22:52 <z-man> the horrible implementation details :)
22:52 <luke-jr> sigh
22:52 <luke-jr> z-man: I got stuck on borders because I have no idea how to detect when something crosses them
22:52 <z-man> You'd never get collisions exactly right when walls are just arbitrary objects.
22:52 <luke-jr> or collides, I suppose
22:53 <luke-jr> collision for zones is right now a duplicate of OnEntry :/
22:55 <luke-jr> Armagetron deals a lot with my two biggest weak areas
22:55 <luke-jr> 3D graphics and physics
22:56 <Lucifer> it's just calculus, come on!  ;)
22:56 <luke-jr> no, calculus is easy
22:56 <luke-jr> physics is not
22:57 <Lucifer> well, since arma isn't based on newton's laws, you don't need to know physics
22:57 <Lucifer> just functions :)
22:57 <luke-jr> collision detection is physics
22:57 <luke-jr> finding the closest two points of objects is physics
22:57 <Lucifer> er, no
22:57 <Lucifer> that's just math
22:57 <luke-jr> geometry, then
22:57 <Lucifer> yeah, and some algebra will help you out
22:58 <luke-jr> I never got algebra
22:58 <Lucifer> you'll need some calculus to do predicting (i.e. if two objects' paths cross, do they collide?)
22:58 <luke-jr> in my mind, algebra is impossibly more difficult than geometry and calculus
22:59 <luke-jr> "do they collide" is beyond what we need right now IMO ☺
22:59 <Lucifer> er, no, it's the same math either way
22:59 <luke-jr> does epsy's event system simplify all this by any chance?
22:59 <Lucifer> you have a wall, right?  The wall extends from one point to another in a straight line
22:59 <Lucifer> a cycle is on one side of the wall in one timestep, and in the very next timestep, it will mvoe to the other side of the wall
23:00 <Lucifer> did it collide?
23:00 <Lucifer> it's the same math either way :)
23:00 <BabyBug> \o/ math!
23:01 <Lucifer> it's really too bad babybug is so young, *and* prefers girls
23:01 <BabyBug> :|
23:01 <BabyBug> wth is that meant to mean
23:01 <luke-jr> if means he wants you
23:02 <Lucifer> no, it means I want a 34 year old version of you ;)
23:02 <BabyBug> ewwwww
23:02  * BabyBug is permanently staying young
23:05 <Lucifer> wow, without even trying I've got 25 friends on facebook
23:06 <BabyBug> python is hard =(
23:06 <luke-jr> is not
23:06 <BabyBug> is so!
23:08 <Lucifer> python's easy when all you seek is a superficial understanding of the ways in which it is not like perl so you can complain that it's not like perl
23:09 <BabyBug> my head hurts trying to understand that sentence
23:10 <luke-jr> BabyBug: giving up is easier
23:10 <Lucifer> nothing worth doing is easy
23:11 <luke-jr> just because it's hard doesn't mean it's worth doing
23:11 <Lucifer> that's why I will no longer provide oral pleasure for ladies
23:11 <Lucifer> dont' let a perl fanboy tell you to give up on python
23:11 <luke-jr> Lucifer: wtf are you arguing?
23:12 <luke-jr> I said Python's not hard
23:12 <Lucifer> python's not hard when you already know several programming languages
23:12 <Lucifer> but if it's your first, it's hard
23:12 <luke-jr> guess we need to add support for ZZT-OOP then
23:12  * BabyBug agrees with Lucifer!
23:12 <Lucifer> now, I think it should be easier than other languages for a first language, but that still doesn't make it easy
23:13  * z-man is for ZZ-TOP support
23:13 <luke-jr> ZZ-TOP?
23:13 <Lucifer> would we get light cycles that flip around?
23:13 <luke-jr> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZZT-OOP
23:13 <z-man> sure. and they'd look much cooler, too.
23:13 <Lucifer> heh, we could have beards instead of walls
23:14 <Lucifer> hey, I had a history teacher when I was in junior high school whose brother did the drawings for zz top records
23:14 <Lucifer> he did afterburner, and a few around that same time period
23:14 <z-man> cool.
23:14 <Lucifer> sadly, I didn't get to meet the band through that connection
23:15 <Lucifer> which makes it a pathetic story
23:15 <Lucifer> ;)
23:15  * Lucifer should shut up and go to bed
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23:17 <animuson> i think arma developers should get a list of school ips and block them so kids cant play arma at school :P
23:18 <luke-jr> animuson: but we want kids to play at school
23:18 <Lucifer> isn't that the schools' problem?
23:18 <animuson> it should be
23:18  * luke-jr ponders adding firewall bypassing to Arma
23:18 <animuson> kids should be learning at school not playing games
23:19 <Lucifer> there's no difference between learning and playing games
23:19 <Lucifer> unless the games are first-person shooters, which arma is not
23:19 <animuson> arma is definitely not a learning experience
23:19 <luke-jr> animuson: schools are brainwashing, not teaching
23:19 <Lucifer> then I guess you're Mister Know It All
23:20 <animuson> luke did you grow up in some screwed-up family?
23:20 <luke-jr> I am all for counteracting schools.
23:20 <Lucifer> arma teaches tactical thinking, working in a group, working on a team
23:20 <luke-jr> animuson: no, but it's clear they've brainwashed you ☺
23:20 <BabyBug> The problem is, the kids who plat arma at school at usually sad, annoying little brats
23:20 <BabyBug> play*
23:20 <Lucifer> for the right players, arma gives leadership experience
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23:20 <luke-jr> BabyBug: that may be a real reason to ban school IPs ☺
23:20 <animuson> wow talk about a stretch
23:20 <BabyBug> :D
23:20 <Lucifer> no, because those people will grow up
23:20 <animuson> it doesnt teach leadership
23:21 <animuson> most servers have PERSONAL scores
23:21 <animuson> it just teaches them to be more egotistical
23:21 <Lucifer> animuson: not my problem your brain is too small to see it, it's obvious to the rest of us :)
23:21 <animuson> more like ur brain is too small...
23:21 <Lucifer> how many times have you seen some shy kid in fortress say "Hey guys, we're doing this wrong", take the initiative and the leading role?
23:22 <animuson> never
23:22 <Lucifer> I've seen it too many times to count, and I haven't even played in a long time
23:22 <luke-jr> animuson: if you're going to get on IRC, you need to leave your brainwashign behind
23:22 <luke-jr> kthx
23:22 <animuson> they just cus at people because theyre screwing them up
23:22 <Lucifer> used to see it in the old team games
23:22 <Lucifer> those sad kids might be shy in real life now, but they're learning, they're watching, and they're growing
23:22 <BabyBug> "i haven't even played in a long time" <--- Maybe you should..it sounds like it's changed :P
23:23 <Lucifer> I see many of those kids right now at the school where I work, and they're not only opening up, they're taking the lead in their lab groups
23:23 <Lucifer> a game like this really can give valuable life experiences
23:23 <Lucifer> oh hell, I wrote an article about it on the wiki
23:23 <animuson> well even if it used too, it definitely doesnt anymore
23:24 <luke-jr> animuson: please LEAVE YOUR BRAINWASHING BEHIND
23:24 <Lucifer> I don't really feel like digging it up
23:25 <Lucifer> for once, I agree with luke-jr
23:25 <animuson> luke i barely even pay attention in school anymore
23:25 <Lucifer> if video games didn't somehow teach or practice real life skills, they wouldn't be fun
23:25 <luke-jr> animuson: that's a GOOD THING
23:25 <animuson> id rather learn things on my own
23:25 <Lucifer> science is pretty much decided that that's what makes playing fun, and that that's the purpose of playing
23:25 <Lucifer> apparently you missed the discussion of play behavior in your biology class :)
23:26 <animuson> apparently youve gone off the deep end
23:26 <Lucifer> heh
23:26 <Lucifer> anybody besides animuson disagree with me on this?  ;)
23:26 <animuson> considering noone else is here?
23:27 <Lucifer> I see 30 nicks
23:27 <Lucifer> just wait around, it's irc, you have to wait for people to respond
23:27 <animuson> just because theyre logged in doesnt mean theyre here
23:27 <Lucifer> no shit?
23:27 <Lucifer> you really *do* know it all!
23:28 <animuson> i bet it takes near a day to get a response from every person
23:28 <animuson> :P
23:28 <luke-jr> most people here don't talk
23:28 <Lucifer> oh yeah, and most people won't respond anyway
23:28 <BabyBug> i disagree with you completely Lucifer
23:28 <Lucifer> really?  you don't think arma has educational value?
23:28 <BabyBug> I don't
23:29 <Lucifer> you don't think people play to learn/practice real life skills?
23:29 <BabyBug> The only educational value it has, is that it teaches you just how much of a fagend American's are
23:31 <Lucifer> play is an important part of learning in many animals  <---- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Play_(animal_behaviour)
23:32 <Lucifer> ah, you're just trolling now
23:32 <Lucifer> good thing you're not 34, I'd have to dump you
23:33 <luke-jr> lol
23:33 <BabyBug> hrmm, not trolling. I agree playing is a part of learning in many animals. But i only to the extent of physical play. Not silly computer games
23:33 <BabyBug> only *agree*
23:33 <Lucifer> so you don't learn anything playing puzzle games?
23:34 <Lucifer> like, say, scrabble?  sudoku?
23:34 <Lucifer> why do we have so many team games, then?
23:35 <Lucifer> let's see, soccer/football, football, baseball, basketball, track relay stuff, cricket/krikkit....
23:35 <Lucifer> card games, oh my
23:35 <BabyBug> On a computer i don't think you do, or very little. You miss out completely on the social aspect of the game
23:35 <BabyBug> they're all physical games Lucifer... >.<
23:35 <Lucifer> spades, pinochle, bridge....
23:35 <Lucifer> there's an entire genre of card games devoted to partnership play
23:36 <animuson> oh card games, lets teach kids how to gamble and take chances :-/
23:36 <BabyBug> Lucifer, I'm just saying they shouldn't be played on a computer imo.
23:36 <Lucifer> you need to broaden your mind, most card games these days aren't gambling games at all
23:36 <Lucifer> true, many of them are derived from games that were originally gambling games (all the whist derivatives, like spades)
23:37 <Lucifer> why not on a computer?  explore the concepts of teamwork in a more abstract environment, then you can more readily apply those concepts in other places
23:37 <Lucifer> limit communication, and then require the most precise and well-mannered teamwork possible
23:38 <Lucifer> that makes it very challenging, increasing the benefit to the player
23:38 <BabyBug> because a computer is nothing like real life? If you want to learn something, do it face to face, not in some silly virtual environment
23:38 <Lucifer> then what's the point of learning abstractions in the first place?
23:38 <Lucifer> what good is math?
23:39 <Lucifer> what good is philosophy?
23:39 <Lucifer> literature?
23:39 <Lucifer> so the game itself isn't like real life, but it still requires real life skills to be good at it
23:39 <Lucifer> being able to think quickly on your feet and act as a team with a total stranger that you just met are real life skills you *must* have
23:39 <Lucifer> and you can practice/learn those by playing armagetron advanced, among other things
23:40 <Lucifer> you get it in a very abstract way
23:40 <Lucifer> I turned around and used tactical practice in arma to defeat fencing 2 students when I was taking fencing 1
23:40 <animuson> what good is math? are you serious? without math wed still be a bunch of cavemen wondering how fire works
23:40 <Lucifer> math is an abstraction!
23:40 <Lucifer> it bears *no* resemblance to real life
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23:40 <Lucifer> yet all of technology is built on it
23:40 <Lucifer> why?
23:41 <animuson> math helps us explain how real life works
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23:41 <Lucifer> no it doesn't, it's just a tool to let us model what we see in the world
23:41 <cpayan> ding
23:41 <Lucifer> but it's man-made, it's not how real life works
23:41 <luke-jr> math isn't man-made
23:42 <Lucifer> and it can even be wrong from time to time, that's why we have to have these constants of proportionality
23:42 <ivantis2> what are you guys talking about?
23:42 <Lucifer> if math was so perfect and natural, we wouldn't need to define big G, for example
23:42 <animuson> lucifer is trying to argue that arma should be allowed in schools because it is educational
23:42 <Lucifer> it is as educational as any sporting activity in school
23:42 <Lucifer> if football is educational and worth funding, then so is armagetron advanced
23:42 <Lucifer> you get the *same* skills from it
23:43 <cpayan> Mathematics is a construct made to understand things in nature. It's both man-made and not
23:43 <cpayan> Lucifer, where's the physical education in armagetron?
23:43 <animuson> high schools barely put any money into football
23:43 <Lucifer> there's no physical education in football either, heh
23:43 <cpayan> right
23:43 <Lucifer> there's a lot of old wive's tales....
23:44 <Lucifer> there's also permanent brain damage available due to repeated small concussions
23:44 <Lucifer> you weren't here when I said arma gives you practice/learning in tactical thinking and teamwork
23:44 <cpayan> people running around, sounds like physical education
23:44 <Lucifer> which, at the end of the day, is the point of team sports in school
23:44 <cpayan> team sports in school are extracurricular activities
23:44 <animuson> evidentally you havent seen high school sports
23:45 <Lucifer> it's the common thread that shows up in the music programs, various academic stuff (drama club, debate club, etc)
23:45 <Lucifer> evidently I made it through high school without seeing any games, even though I was in the marching band....
23:45 <cpayan> Your examples are almost all extracurriculars
23:45 <Lucifer> in my school, we took a class called PE where we played all of those sports and more
23:45 <Lucifer> it's part of the core curriculum
23:46 <cpayan> physical education as part of the curriculum is mostly to get the students moving and maintain a certain level of health
23:46 <Lucifer> you're also required to take electives that have that common thread of teamwork in them
23:46 <Lucifer> like it or not, teamwork is embedded into the coursework
23:46 <animuson> like what?
23:46 <Lucifer> at the college level, if the college fails to embed teamwork into the course material, they lose their accreditation
23:47 <animuson> dude kids can do w/e they want in college
23:47 <Lucifer> animuson: choir/orchestra/band/shop/auto mechanics/etc
23:47 <cpayan> Teamwork is embedded into the coursework because teamwork in embedded in life. It's not a reflection of what they're trying to teach. There is no teamwork class. There is no team building class. There is no team management class.
23:47 <animuson> were talking about middle and high school
23:47 <Lucifer> animuson: don't forget I work in a community college
23:47 <Lucifer> cpayan: yep, the standards read something like "You must teach <this subject (i.e. teamwork or ethics)>, but you may not hold separate classes to teach it"
23:48 <Lucifer> my intro to engineering class had ethics embedded into it because of that
23:48 <cpayan> Anyway, you're using strange logic, trying to reduce every class to one thread that you find to be common to each, and then touting arma as a means to teach that one thing only.
23:48 <Lucifer> our physics labs are structured like they are precisely to require teamwork
23:48 <cpayan> college courses
23:48 <cpayan> you're shifting the grounds for the debate
23:48 <Lucifer> I'm not trying to "reduce" every class, I'm trying to show how important this stuff is, and that arma *also* teaches it
23:49 <Lucifer> I don't know what's required for high schools and junior high schools to keep their accreditation
23:49 <cpayan> College is a completely different environment from k-12
23:49 <Lucifer> so I'm talking about what I know, and animuson never specified grade level :)
23:49 <Lucifer> so we're covering the whole spectrum
23:49 <cpayan> anyways, armagetron as an educational would only be usable for young children
23:49 <cpayan> so I'm limiting the whole spectrum now
23:49 <Lucifer> you need to support it being usable only for young children
23:50 <cpayan> It'd be unrealistic to expect people use a game as an educational tool in high school, middle school, or college
23:50 <cpayan> It's vaguely unpopular already.
23:50 <Lucifer> you missed the beginning of the discussion, we're not talking about whether or not people will do *that*
23:50 <Lucifer> animuson said armagetron has no educational value for anybody, and I disagreed
23:50 <cpayan> Oh
23:51 <cpayan> Well clearly, he's wrong.
23:51 <Lucifer> and you've known me for too long, so you outta know my grounds for disagreement by now :)
23:51 <cpayan> if for no other reason that he used an absolute :/
23:51 <Lucifer> we haven't even talked about arma being open source, either
23:51 <Lucifer> just think, kid plays the game, kid reads the source code, kid learns about math, physics, and programming
23:51 <animuson> id be fine with it if they were actually coding or something
23:52 <animuson> but just playing the game shouldnt be allowed in a high school type setting
23:52 <luke-jr> animuson: high school should not exist
23:52 <Lucifer> then you go to your high school an implement the technology to stop it
23:52 <luke-jr> it is abuse
23:52 <animuson> they already have actually
23:52 <cpayan> had a bad time in high school, luke-jr ?
23:52 <animuson> and it just goes to prove that if one district can do it then any district can do it
23:52 <luke-jr> cpayan: I didn't go to high school, of course.
23:53 <cpayan> sad
23:53 <cpayan> myself, i
23:53 <luke-jr> it is evil
23:53 <Lucifer> then why are you asking us to do it?
23:53 <cpayan> would like to see mandatory education go further than high school
23:53 <animuson> because some schools dont care enough about their students to actually implement the system
23:53 <luke-jr> high school is not education
23:53 <Lucifer> in any case, I learned a fair amount of teamwork playing video games starting with the atari 2600 and going all the way up
23:53 <cpayan> Life's getting smarter
23:53 <Lucifer> it wasn't my only experience, but it was a part of it
23:53 <cpayan> luke-jr, speaking from experience? Sure doesn't seem like it
23:53 <Lucifer> you assume that that's how a school shows it cares
23:54 <cpayan> Anyway, why do you hate high school so much. Use reasons instead of baseless statements, this time.
23:54 <Lucifer> if I were running the school, the school would show it cares about students by a) showing trust (leaving the netwrok as wide open as legally possible), and b) allowing kids to use their downtime to play games
23:54 <luke-jr> cpayan: the purpose of high school is brainwashing, nothing to do with education
23:55 <cpayan> baseless statement
23:55 <animuson> then all the students would use any time thyey had at the computer a downtime and never get anything done
23:55 <Lucifer> a school that implements draconian rules might show that it cares, but it instills in the kids the idea that they can't be trusted
23:55 <Lucifer> animuson: that's not true at all
23:55 <luke-jr> cpayan: admitted by the creators of the high school system
23:55 <animuson> students cant be trusted
23:55 <cpayan> and who are these all-powerful creators of education?
23:55 <animuson> some students may be trustable, but u cant base it on one student
23:55 <Lucifer> my high school had that sort of open policy (could have been more open), and there were still the schoolboys/schoolgirls that turned in all homework on time or early, got straight As, etc.
23:55 <animuson> u have to base it on all the students
23:55 <luke-jr> high school has nothing to do with education
23:55 <cpayan> animuson, agreed. Most people would abuse it Lucifer
23:55 <animuson> and there will always be students who want to do mischevious things
23:56 <cpayan> all right luke-jr come up with some real reasons or just drop it.
23:56 <Lucifer> basically, students that would abuse it WERE GOING TO FUCK OFF ANYWAY
23:56 <cpayan> Yep, but they'll fuck off less with rules in place.
23:56 <Lucifer> students who wouldn't abuse it would use it productively, because playing during downtime is actually productive
23:56 <animuson> and the wide limits only encouraged them to do so
23:56 <Lucifer> no they won't
23:56 <Lucifer> they'll just fuck off differently
23:56 <Lucifer> trust me, I was one of those fucking off students, I know how to fuck off with just a pencil in my hand and two hours to kill
23:57 <animuson> anyways its been a nice convo but i have to go to a meeting
23:57 <luke-jr> cpayan: that is a real reason
23:57 <animuson> cya all
23:57 <Lucifer> take the pencil and I can still waste the two hours instead of doing whatever work was expected of me
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23:57 <cpayan> No. It's a statement without any base, solely created by your opinion (which i don't find particularly educated, if you've never been to high school)
23:57 <Lucifer> so, for the minority of fucking-off students, we will deprive the majority of mostly hard working students of this resource
23:57 <cpayan> Certainly there are other ways to be educated
23:58 <cpayan> Lucifer, you're talking about college, right?
23:58 <luke-jr> cpayan: ah, I'm not brainwashed therefore I must be an idiot?
23:58 <Lucifer> no, we're back to high school, since wer'e talking about the system animuson was talking about to block computer games from the network
23:58 <Lucifer> my college has a network for students that's wide open and they can do anything on :)
23:58 <cpayan> luke-jr, just uninformed, i suppose.
23:58 <Vanhayes_> luke-jr, how does high school brainwash?
23:58 <cpayan> he refuses to say
23:58 <Lucifer> staff networks are watched very carefully and protected, of course
23:59 <cpayan> You see, college is probably the only environment where more students are hardworking than not.
23:59 <Vanhayes_> probably because most pay quite a bit of money to be there

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00:00 <cpayan> probably has quite a bit to do with it
00:00 <Lucifer> my graduating class had a drop out rate of 25%, and I say that there was still a majority of hard working students
00:00 <Lucifer> working hard doesn't require a student to always be working, mind you
00:01 <Lucifer> there's plenty of play time available when the homework is so light and easy to knock out
00:01 <luke-jr> Vanhayes_: just look at all the masses brainwashed into believing the global warming and overpopulation myths
00:01 <Lucifer> er, there's significant science to support both of those
00:01 <Lucifer> calling them myths is more hand-waving
00:01 <Lucifer> also, the reward for working hard isn't always an A
00:01 <Lucifer> it's a non-failing grade :)
00:02 <cpayan> well with that rule in place, i guess yes, there are more "hard workers" than not
00:02 <Vanhayes_> luke-jr, so what kind of education did you get if not school?
00:02 <Lucifer> or it's a standing ovation at the end of the school play
00:02 <Lucifer> or it's a badge for participating and/or winning a debate
00:02 <cpayan> then again, I was considering fucking around within the rules that are set up.
00:02 <Lucifer> Vanhayes_: he didn't get one, can't you tell?
00:03 <Vanhayes_> im think church educated
00:03 <Lucifer> everything I learned, I learned from Heinlein
00:03 <Lucifer> so if I sound like a whack job, now you know why
00:03 <cpayan> heinlein?
00:04 <luke-jr> Vanhayes_: books
00:04 <Lucifer> yeah, Robert A Heinlein
00:04 <Lucifer> science fiction author
00:04 <cpayan> ah
00:04 <Vanhayes_> they use books in high school too you know luke-jr
00:04 <cpayan> hehe
00:04 <Lucifer> Vanhayes_: picture books, these days
00:04 <Vanhayes_> they actually use quite a few
00:04 <luke-jr> Vanhayes_: yeah, but fiction
00:04 <luke-jr> better to use non-fiction books to learn
00:04 <Vanhayes_> such as...?
00:05 <Lucifer> I've long felt that computer games, almost every computer game, has educational value
00:05 <Lucifer> the problem is that playing computer games is viewed as worse than watching tv
00:05 <cpayan> there's no point to this discussion. He thinks I'm brainwashed. I think he's passing off absolutes without any real reasoning. Hey, maybe HE'S been brainwashed to think high school is worthless.
00:05 <Lucifer> and education is thought to require teaching, studying, homework, and shit
00:06 <Lucifer> so when computer games don't directly teach, don't require study or homework to win, they can't be educational
00:06 <Vanhayes_> luke-jr, so the math text books and history books are fiction?
00:06 <luke-jr> Vanhayes_: the history ones most likely are
00:06 <Lucifer> Vanhayes_: all the ones that refer to any pope after a certain year as being the true pope are fiction, obviously
00:06 <Vanhayes_> obviously...
00:06 <Lucifer> luke-jr doesn't believe in peer review, unless it's for a GPL product
00:06 <Lucifer> and history and science aren't GPL products
00:06 <cpayan> heh
00:06 <cpayan> open source history
00:07 <Vanhayes_> my school actually kept god out of the classroom for the most part
00:07 <Lucifer> science and history have always been open source :)
00:07 <Vanhayes_> hard to avoid for alot of wars
00:07 <cpayan> Well, history is written by the winners so it's open source
00:07 <luke-jr> Vanhayes_: exactly the brainwashing
00:07 <Lucifer> this whole open source model didn't come from nowhere, it's based on long-standing practices in the scientific community
00:07 <Vanhayes_> luke-jr, i say your way seems to be brainwashing
00:07 <cpayan> luke-jr, I was raised without a religion, is that brainwashing?
00:07 <luke-jr> cpayan: you can't be raised without a religion
00:07 <Vanhayes_> but then thats what they brainwashed me to think
00:07 <luke-jr> that is impossible
00:07 <Vanhayes_> luke-jr, I was
00:07 <cpayan> Definitely possible
00:08  * ct|kyle ponders sighting Lucifer for my speech on it :P
00:08 <luke-jr> maybe you were raised atheist
00:08 <cpayan> I never had a single faith or belief imposed on me
00:08 <cpayan> nope
00:08 <luke-jr> but that is a religion
00:08 <Vanhayes_> i wasnt raised anything
00:08 <cpayan> My parents just left all that out of my upbringing
00:08 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: if your speech is on video games, I'm probably a valid reference
00:08 <luke-jr> cpayan: that's called neglect
00:08 <Vanhayes_> i learned maybe 5 years ago my mom was baptist, not sure what my dad is
00:08 <Lucifer> players have cited me in the past :)
00:08 <cpayan> luke-jr, that's rude, excessively so
00:09 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: on open source software
00:09 <cpayan> have some fucking civility
00:09 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: then yes, I'm totally citable ;)
00:09 <luke-jr> cpayan: unlike an education system, parents have a duty to educate their children
00:09 <Lucifer> make sure to use my real name, though, heh ;)
00:09 <Vanhayes_> luke-jr, i was left to figure stuff out on my own, if I had a question they answered it, I just never really had a question
00:09 <cpayan> luke-jr, religion might not be a part of a regular education
00:09 <Lucifer> now, whether or not I'm *credible* is up to you to decide, since it's your speech
00:09 <cpayan> I was taught VALUES, not faith
00:10 <luke-jr> cpayan: theology is the highest of the sciences
00:10 <cpayan> don't speak badly about my parents
00:10 <Lucifer> but your teacher should accept me as a source if he/she allows an interview or email source (mine did)
00:10 <luke-jr> religion is the only essential area of education
00:10 <ct|kyle> mine allows an interview
00:10 <cpayan> luke-jr, that's not to say I don't know a decent amount of religion. I find it interesting. From a cultural standpoint
00:10 <cpayan> That is what religion is
00:10 <cpayan> Culture.
00:10 <Lucifer> hey, I've got open source credentials ;)
00:10 <Vanhayes_> hmm, how did we get on religion again, this always ends badly
00:10 <luke-jr> no
00:10 <ct|kyle> I have to figure out what main points I want to use though.
00:10 <cpayan> fine
00:11 <Lucifer> Vanhayes_: by letting luke-jr take part in the education discussion
00:11 <Vanhayes_> true
00:11 <Vanhayes_> always interesting though
00:11 <cpayan> anyways
00:11 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: just trying to keep you from falling into the trap of "well, he's my friend, and I can't cite friends"
00:11  * Vanhayes_ usually plays devil's advocate
00:11 <cpayan> i suppose I'll just move around the world, a shiftless heathen with a high school education.
00:11 <Lucifer> well, yes you can, if your friend has credentials appropriate to the topic
00:12 <luke-jr> notice how the world has degraded into almost a martial law society
00:12 <luke-jr> cameras everywhere
00:12 <luke-jr> you can't trust anyone
00:12 <Lucifer> luke-jr: they have treatments for paranoia
00:12 <Lucifer> good ones, that work
00:12 <Vanhayes_> moving around the world with a high school education is pretty much how id like to live for the next 5 years
00:12 <cpayan> Lucifer, aren't paranoiacs just people with all the facts?
00:12 <luke-jr> Lucifer: so every business on the planet needs to be treated, somehow?
00:13 <Lucifer> cpayan: no, but it can be an easy mistake to make
00:13 <luke-jr> how do you treat businesses?
00:13 <cpayan> heh, i was joking
00:13 <cpayan> luke-jr, what are you even talking about
00:13 <Lucifer> businesses that act paranoid
00:13 <cpayan> obviously, with infusions of cash :)
00:13 <Lucifer> make you sign NDAs and crap
00:13 <luke-jr> cpayan: individuals don't have the cameras up, businesses do
00:13 <luke-jr> governments too
00:13 <luke-jr> why are there metal detectors at government offices and courthouses?
00:14 <Lucifer> yeah, and there's like 2/3 of our working society devoted to studying the images on all of those cameras, making sure nobody gets away with anything
00:14 <cpayan> Well that's the role of government. To create constructs of trust. Whether they work depends on the people.
00:14 <luke-jr> who do stores put RFID on valuables?
00:14 <Vanhayes_> luke-jr, all depends on where you live, I think there is a security cam in the liquor store, and thats about it in my town
00:14 <luke-jr> cpayan: there is no basis for trust without religion
00:14 <Lucifer> we've got some traffic cameras
00:14 <luke-jr> Vanhayes_: WalMarts near you don't have cameras?
00:14 <Lucifer> luke-jr: what about the fact that without mutual cooperation and trust, our way of life breaks down?
00:14 <Vanhayes_> luke-jr, dont say "the world" when refering to the states, or more precise parts of the states
00:14 <Lucifer> you don't need religion, you just need a firm grounding in facts ;)
00:15 <cpayan> luke-jr, taking myself as an example, I trust most people, whether I know them or not, and I don't give a damn about their religion. Where is religion as a foundation of trust there?
00:15 <Vanhayes_> luke-jr, there is a wal-mart maybe half an hour away, i dont usually go there
00:15 <Lucifer> most people are trustworthy, regardless of their religion
00:15 <luke-jr> Lucifer: the irreligious "way of life" the world is currently in IS breaking down
00:15 <Lucifer> we've been bred that way for 10k years
00:15 <cpayan> Personal trust comes from experiences.
00:15 <Vanhayes_> the government buildings ive been into dont have metal detectors
00:15 <Lucifer> luke-jr: no it's not, just the economy that's collapsing
00:15 <Lucifer> yeah, quite a few here in austin don't have metal detectors either
00:16 <luke-jr> Lucifer: so you don't lock your house doors?
00:16 <Lucifer> luke-jr: not always, no
00:16 <Lucifer> and I've never had someone come in and steal anything
00:16 <cpayan> Lucifer, did you go to SXSW?
00:16 <Vanhayes_> the first time i saw a metal detector was less than a year ago when i flew for the first time
00:16 <Lucifer> cpayan: it hasn't started yet
00:16 <cpayan> err
00:16 <cpayan> yes it has...
00:16 <Lucifer> wait, there's several parts of it
00:16 <cpayan> ah yea
00:16 <cpayan> SXSWi
00:16 <Lucifer> usually people refer to the live music part, which I believe starts on friday
00:16 <Lucifer> no, I missed sxswi
00:17 <Lucifer> which is too bad, Chills was in town and I didn't get to hook up with him because I was busy getting laid and taking tests
00:17 <Lucifer> the tests were *not* related to getting laid, btw
00:17 <cpayan> nah, my sister went to SXSWi, and to tie that into the conversation on trust, she bought the ticket using tipjoy, a Twitter app for making donations
00:17 <cpayan> People trusted her to go to SXSWi, and not just run off with the 500 dollars
00:18 <cpayan> lol Lucifer
00:18 <Lucifer> you remember chills, though, right?
00:18 <cpayan> nope
00:18 <cpayan> iceman?
00:18 <Lucifer> hmmm, no, not iceman
00:18 <cpayan> no i don't remember chills
00:19 <Lucifer> you have to go back a ways to remember chills, I think back to BoC and earlier, goshdarn
00:19 <cpayan> ah i wasn't around then
00:19 <Lucifer> he was around in the early fortress days
00:19 <cpayan> was around then, though
00:19 <Lucifer> but not much, hard to find, and usually quiet
00:19 <cpayan> oh well
00:19 <Lucifer> yeah, oh well
00:19 <Lucifer> he works for opera, and he was in town for sxswi, and I got distracted, heh
00:20 <Lucifer> oh well, I need to send him a message telling him next time or something
00:20 <cpayan> works for opera? that's cool.
00:20 <cpayan> He's a dev for them, i'm guessing?
00:20 <Lucifer> yep
00:20 <Lucifer> hey, arma players aren't all losers, I don't care what the stereotypes may be
00:20 <Lucifer> there's really no telling who that is on the other side of the grid
00:21 <BabyBug> ...
00:21 <cpayan> heh, i'm not sure enough people that know about arma to create a particularly strong stereotype. But I doubt we have the same rep as chess players.
00:21 <Lucifer> no, the stereotype I'm talking about is here in the community
00:21 <BabyBug> hey...what's wrong with chess?
00:21  * Vanhayes_ takes poll who is unemployed atm
00:21 <Lucifer> outside, nobody knows us, and that's fine ;)
00:21 <Lucifer> Vanhayes_: underemployed count?
00:22 <BabyBug> I'll be employed in November
00:22 <Lucifer> and being unemployed/underemployed during the worst economic meltdown since WWII does *not* make you a loser
00:22 <Vanhayes_> true
00:22 <luke-jr> no, but it makes *you* a loser
00:22 <luke-jr> ;p
00:22  * cpayan unemployed
00:22 <luke-jr> j/k
00:22 <BabyBug> luke-jr, he's a loser whether he's unemployed or not.
00:22 <Vanhayes_> i waorked 10 months last year and made about 45000, and thats just starting out
00:23 <cpayan> that's good.
00:23 <ct|kyle> it only makes you a loser if your name is Dave
00:23 <luke-jr> 45000 what?
00:23 <Lucifer> CAD
00:23 <Vanhayes_> now im makeing less than 1000 a month on EI
00:23 <Vanhayes_> good ol recession
00:23 <luke-jr> ]y start theme=twg
00:23 <ljrbot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "]yandere" to join.
00:23 <cpayan> ?
00:23 <Lucifer> ]go fuck yourself
00:23 <ljrbot> Lucifer: Error: "go" is not a valid command.
00:23 <ct|kyle> ]stop
00:23 <ljrbot> ct|kyle: Error: "stop" is not a valid command.
00:23 <Lucifer> is too
00:24 <luke-jr> O.o
00:24 <ct|kyle> ]why quit
00:24 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
00:24 <ljrbot> ct|kyle: Error: "why" is not a valid command.
00:24 <BabyBug> #kban ljrbot
00:24 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: why so serious?
00:24 <BabyBug> :)
00:24 <ct|kyle> ]y quit
00:24 <ljrbot> The Worm Game game has been forced to end.
00:24 <luke-jr> ]y end
00:24 <ljrbot> luke-jr: There's no game here.
00:25 <luke-jr> o quit works too
00:25 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: I forgot I had auto-correct on :P
00:25 <luke-jr> lol
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00:25 <Lucifer> damn, I knew I was going to get tagged with that note sooner or later
00:25  * ct|kyle goes to remove y to why replacement
00:25 <Vanhayes_> hmm, what time is it Central right now?
00:25 <luke-jr> 6:25
00:26 <Vanhayes_> ah ok, 2 behind me, thanks
00:27 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: how is the zone bouncing coming along?
00:28 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: it's mostly impossible ☺
00:29 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: we can have a square object right, and the object would rotate around its center correct?
00:30 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: what?
00:31 <ct|kyle> how does rotation work with polygon zones?
00:31 <luke-jr> the entire object rotates around some origin point
00:31 <luke-jr> how that origin point is determined, I do not know
00:31 <ct|kyle> that is what I thought
00:32 <luke-jr> :O
00:32 <luke-jr> idea
00:32 <ct|kyle> origin point should be the so called Center of mass
00:33 <ct|kyle> so in our case would should be able to fin the line on the x-axes that splits the area and the line on the y axes, then take their  intersection point
00:34 <ct|kyle> but coding that, I have no clue how to do :P
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00:36 <luke-jr> Armagetron objects have no mass
00:36 <ct|kyle> that is why it should be based on area of the object
00:36 <Lucifer> whoah, that's heavy
00:36 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: I believe "centroid" is the word you're looking for
00:36 <Lucifer> the first moment of area
00:36 <Lucifer> or something like that
00:37 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: how can I be looking for a word I've never heard :P
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00:37 <cpayan> zurd was logged in through a browser client o.O
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00:42 <luke-jr> he usually is
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00:48 <cpayan> zurd, i was wondering, is there a reason you use a web-based browser?
00:50 <luke-jr> he runs windows
00:50 <luke-jr> there is no good IRC client for Windows
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00:55 <Vanhayes_> xchat 2 isnt bad
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01:11 <luke-jr> anyone want to play on the spinning square map? :p
01:11 <smoothice> ?
01:11 <luke-jr> it's just the usual square map
01:11 <luke-jr> but the square spins
01:11 <luke-jr> :p
01:11 <smoothice> sure m'am
01:11 <BabyBug> server name?
01:11 <luke-jr> I didn't put it up yet
01:11 <smoothice> ...
01:11 <luke-jr> requires protobuf trunk client
01:11 <smoothice> oh
01:12 <smoothice> nevermind then
01:12 <smoothice> screw trunk
01:12 <luke-jr> …
01:12 <BabyBug> ...
01:12 <BabyBug> Why is the bottom option of every menu selected by default on trunk :s
01:12 <luke-jr> BabyBug: it isn't?
01:12 <BabyBug> It is for me
01:13 <luke-jr> report a bug
01:15 <BabyBug> Should i make a recording for that?
01:16 <dlh> Sure
01:16 <BabyBug> okies :)
01:19 <BabyBug> weeeeeeeee done
01:21 <BabyBug> luke-jr, where's that spinning map server? i just want to see what it's like
01:22 <BabyBug> unless maybe i can load the map locally
01:23 <BabyBug> oh i can't :( or don't know how
01:24 <Vanhayes_> #night
01:24 <Vanhayes_> bah i miss armabot
01:24 <smoothice> #night Vanhayes
01:24 <smoothice> wtf?
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01:24 <smoothice> .night
01:24 <tronner> Good night smoothice!
01:24 <smoothice> lol
01:24 <smoothice> luke-jr would probably even prefer that I leave LOL
01:24 <luke-jr> …
01:25 <luke-jr> BabyBug: working on it
01:25 <luke-jr> BabyBug: re the bug, expect to make someone a test account
01:25 <BabyBug> re the bug?
01:25 <luke-jr> I don't think ti will reproduce w/ a recording
01:25 <luke-jr> the menu thing
01:26 <ljrbot> New news from armagetronadbzr: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r898 spinning square map :D
01:26 <BabyBug> what do you mean re it?
01:26 <luke-jr> regarding it
01:26 <BabyBug> oh
01:26 <BabyBug> test account? what?
01:26 <BabyBug> :s
01:26 <BabyBug> on my computer?
01:26 <luke-jr> yeah
01:27 <BabyBug> oh...that might not be possible
01:27 <luke-jr> then fixing it might not be possible
01:27 <BabyBug> awwww shucks
01:28 <zurd> cpayan: what do you mean, with what?
01:31 <dlh> BabyBug: the bug shows up on playback of the recording on my machine.
01:32 <BabyBug> oo yay :)
01:32 <smoothice> luke-jr: will you let me defenestrate you?
01:32 <smoothice> .dict defenestrate
01:32 <tronner> smoothice: wn and gcide responded: wn: defenestrate v : throw through or out of the window; "The rebels stormed the palace and defenestrated the President"; gcide: defenestrate \de*fen"es*trate\ (d[-e]*f[e^]n"[e^]s*tr[=a]t), v. t. to throw (something or someone) out of a window. [PJC]
01:32 <dlh> BabyBug: WRAP_MENU 1
01:33 <dlh> there ya go
01:33 <BabyBug> ...
01:33 <BabyBug> Ok that should still be considered a bug!
01:33 <noob13> .bet 5
01:33 <tronner> You rolled 8. tronner rolled 2. You win 5! User noob13 now has 105 :)
01:34 <dlh> Do you really want wrap menu off?
01:34 <dlh> Maybe that option can just be removed entirely
01:34 <smoothice> .be 5
01:34 <smoothice> .bet 5
01:34 <tronner> New user smoothice has 100 credits to gamble! Good luck! :D
01:34 <smoothice> .ber 5
01:34 <smoothice> .bet 5
01:34 <tronner> You rolled 6. tronner rolled 5. You win 5! User smoothice now has 105 :)
01:34 <BabyBug> dlh, yes i do want it off :P
01:34 <dlh> ah
01:35 <noob13> .bet 45
01:35 <tronner> You rolled 5. tronner rolled 8. You lost 45! User noob13 now has 60 :(
01:35 <BabyBug> noob13, stop spamming >.<
01:35 <noob13> ;D
01:36 <BabyBug> and smoothice! Sorry..thought they were all the same person.
01:36 <noob13> i'm sorry, what are we talking about..
01:36 <BabyBug> Your names are the same colour
01:36 <smoothice> BabyIdiot: ?
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01:36 <BabyBug> nara nara nara <3333
01:36 <noob13> hi!
01:36 <nniveus> hey all :)
01:36 <smoothice> .bet 1
01:36 <tronner> Both rolled 6! Nobody won!
01:36 <smoothice> .bet 1
01:36 <tronner> You rolled 10. tronner rolled 8. You win 1! User smoothice now has 106 :)
01:37 <nniveus> what is that, a game? o_O
01:37 <smoothice> .bet 105
01:37 <tronner> You rolled 4. tronner rolled 7. You lost 105! User smoothice now has 1 :(
01:37 <smoothice> FRICK
01:37 <noob13> heh
01:37 <smoothice> LOL!
01:37 <nniveus> .bet 666
01:37 <tronner> New user nniveus has 100 credits to gamble! Good luck! :D
01:37 <smoothice> ..
01:37 <smoothice> .ber 666
01:37 <smoothice> .bet 666
01:37 <tronner> Can't bet 666! You only have 1!
01:38 <smoothice> .bet 1
01:38 <smoothice> .bet 1
01:38 <tronner> You rolled 6. tronner rolled 8. You lost 1! User smoothice now has 0 :(
01:38 <tronner> Can't bet 1! You only have 0!
01:38 <luke-jr> /kick tronner
01:38 <nniveus> lol
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01:38 <smoothice> .kick luke-jr
01:38 <luke-jr> .bet
01:38 <tronner> New user luke-jr has 100 credits to gamble! Good luck! :D
01:38 <luke-jr> .bet 5
01:38 <smoothice> .ner help
01:38 <tronner> You rolled 3. tronner rolled 8. You lost 5! User luke-jr now has 95 :(
01:38 <smoothice> .bet help
01:38 <luke-jr> .bet 10
01:38 <tronner> You have to place a bet!
01:38 <tronner> You rolled 8. tronner rolled 7. You win 10! User luke-jr now has 105 :)
01:38 <nniveus> .bet 100
01:38 <tronner> You rolled 10. tronner rolled 7. You win 100! User nniveus now has 200 :)
01:38 <nniveus> hahaha
01:38 <luke-jr> .bet 10
01:38 <tronner> You rolled 4. tronner rolled 2. You win 10! User luke-jr now has 115 :)
01:38 <luke-jr> .bet 15
01:38 <tronner> You rolled 4. tronner rolled 5. You lost 15! User luke-jr now has 100 :(
01:38 <luke-jr> .bet 15
01:39 <tronner> You rolled 4. tronner rolled 6. You lost 15! User luke-jr now has 85 :(
01:39 <luke-jr> .bet 25
01:39 <tronner> You rolled 4. tronner rolled 7. You lost 25! User luke-jr now has 60 :(
01:39 <luke-jr> .bet 10
01:39 <tronner> You rolled 9. tronner rolled 10. You lost 10! User luke-jr now has 50 :(
01:39 <luke-jr> .bet 25
01:39 <tronner> Both rolled 6! Nobody won!
01:39 <luke-jr> wtf
01:39 <nniveus> you guys are so cheap
01:39 <luke-jr> .bet 25
01:39 <tronner> You rolled 7. tronner rolled 5. You win 25! User luke-jr now has 75 :)
01:39 <nniveus> if you're gonna bet, bet the whole thing ;)
01:39 <luke-jr> .bet 25
01:39 <tronner> You rolled 6. tronner rolled 12. You lost 25! User luke-jr now has 50 :(
01:39 <luke-jr> .bet 25
01:39 <tronner> You rolled 6. tronner rolled 9. You lost 25! User luke-jr now has 25 :(
01:39 <luke-jr> .bet 25
01:39 <tronner> You rolled 7. tronner rolled 11. You lost 25! User luke-jr now has 0 :(
01:39 <luke-jr> .bet 25
01:39 <tronner> Can't bet 25! You only have 0!
01:39 <luke-jr> .bet 0
01:39 <tronner> You rolled 6. tronner rolled 3. You win 0! User luke-jr now has 0 :)
01:39 <luke-jr> :/
01:39 <nniveus> lol
01:39 <nniveus> .bet 200
01:40 <tronner> You rolled 7. tronner rolled 3. You win 200! User nniveus now has 400 :)
01:40 <nniveus> lol
01:40 <luke-jr> -.-
01:40 <luke-jr> .help bet
01:40 <tronner> luke-jr: (bet <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch [echo http://users.jyu.fi/~ilpale/dice.php?usr=$nick&bet=@1+@2+@3+@4&bot=tronner]".
01:40 <dlh>  /join #armagetron.botspam
01:40 <luke-jr> lulz
01:40 <nniveus> babybug, 13?
01:40 <luke-jr> nniveus: try again
01:40 <luke-jr> :D
01:41 <nniveus> .bet400
01:41 <nniveus> .bet 400
01:41 <tronner> Can't bet 400! You only have 0!
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01:42 <nniveus> what?!
01:42 <nniveus> you rigged it luke!
01:42 <luke-jr> pwnt
01:43 <nniveus> lol ya better watch out >:(
01:43 <luke-jr> .alias add bet "fetch [echo http://users.jyu.fi/~ilpale/dice.php?usr=$nick&bet=@1+@2+@3+@4&bot=tronner2]"
01:43 <luke-jr> f u tronner
01:44 <ct|kyle> where is armabot
01:45 <BabyBug> nniveus, 13????
01:45 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: mars
01:46 <noob13> nniveus, hi!
01:46 <noob13> .bet 45
01:46 <tronner> You rolled 4. tronner rolled 10. You lost 45! User noob13 now has 15 :(
01:46 <luke-jr> noob13: how do we reset?
01:46 <nniveus> :) hi guys
01:46 <nniveus> way to abandon me here with this cheater
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01:47 <noob13> luke-jr, do you have a gambling problem?
01:47 <luke-jr> only on your script
01:47 <noob13> i'll add a reset feature later ;P
01:49 <dlh> BabyBug: I pushed a fix to launchpad.
01:49 <dlh> hmm, but this probably is a problem in 0.2.8 too...
01:49 <BabyBug> dlh, yay ty :)
01:52 <luke-jr> dlh: what was it? O.o
01:53 <zurd> .bet 2000
01:53 <tronner> New user zurd has 100 credits to gamble! Good luck! :D
01:53 <zurd> :o
01:53 <luke-jr> I bet tronner rigged the dice
01:53 <nniveus> back
01:53 <nniveus> lawl i bet i just have gambling luck ;)
01:53 <zurd> .bet 2
01:53 <tronner> You rolled 8. tronner rolled 5. You win 2! User zurd now has 102 :)
01:53 <zurd> :O
01:54 <zurd> .bet 2
01:54 <tronner> You rolled 8. tronner rolled 5. You win 2! User zurd now has 810 :)
01:54 <zurd> .bet 2
01:54 <tronner> You rolled 9. tronner rolled 7. You win 2! User zurd now has 4 :)
01:54 <nniveus> o_O
01:54 <zurd> ???
01:54 <luke-jr> wtf
01:54  * nniveus looks at luke
01:54 <zurd> poont
01:54 <zurd> .bet 2
01:54 <tronner> Can't bet 2! You only have 0!
01:54 <zurd> ?!
01:54 <zurd> ?!!??
01:55 <zurd> .bet 0
01:55 <tronner> You rolled 4. tronner rolled 10. You lost 0! User zurd now has 0 :(
01:55 <zurd> .bet 0
01:55 <tronner> Both rolled 9! Nobody won!
01:55 <zurd> .bet 0
01:55 <tronner> You rolled 5. tronner rolled 6. You lost 0! User zurd now has 0 :(
01:55 <zurd> this is jacked up
01:55 <zurd> ]bet 0
01:55 <nniveus> lol
01:55 <ljrbot> zurd: Error: "bet" is not a valid command.
01:55 <nniveus> took you a while to confirm that zurd :P
01:55 <zurd> i want my money back!
01:56 <BabyBug> that was funny
01:59 <noob13> .bet plzdonate
01:59 <tronner> A donation of 21 has been sent to noob13.
01:59 <luke-jr> .bet plzdonate
01:59 <tronner> A donation of 28 has been sent to luke-jr.
01:59 <luke-jr> .bet plzdonate
01:59 <tronner> luke-jr got mugged. Lost -7! :(
01:59 <luke-jr> F U
01:59 <luke-jr> .bet plzdonate
01:59 <tronner> luke-jr got mugged. Lost -17! :(
01:59 <luke-jr> .bet plzdonate
01:59 <tronner> luke-jr got mugged. Lost -4! :(
01:59 <luke-jr> .bet plzdonate
01:59 <tronner> luke-jr got mugged. Lost -20! :(
01:59 <luke-jr> .bet plzdonate
01:59 <tronner> luke-jr got mugged. Lost -18! :(
01:59 <luke-jr> .bet plzdonate
01:59 <tronner> A donation of 22 has been sent to luke-jr.
01:59 <luke-jr> .bet 5
01:59 <tronner> Can't bet 5! You only have -16!
01:59 <luke-jr> …
01:59 <luke-jr> .bet plzdonate
01:59 <noob13> :P
01:59 <tronner> A donation of 18 has been sent to luke-jr.
01:59 <luke-jr> .bet 2
01:59 <tronner> Both rolled 6! Nobody won!
02:00 <luke-jr> .bet 2
02:00 <tronner> You rolled 6. tronner rolled 7. You lost 2! User luke-jr now has 0 :(
02:00 <luke-jr> .bet plzdonate
02:00 <tronner> luke-jr got mugged. Lost -8! :(
02:00 <luke-jr> .bet plzdonate
02:00 <tronner> A donation of 23 has been sent to luke-jr.
02:00 <luke-jr> .bet 20
02:00 <nniveus> noob you made this?
02:00 <tronner> You rolled 5. tronner rolled 7. You lost 20! User luke-jr now has 95 :(
02:00 <luke-jr> .bet 15
02:00 <tronner> You rolled 3. tronner rolled 6. You lost 15! User luke-jr now has 174 :(
02:00 <luke-jr> .bet 15
02:00 <tronner> Both rolled 6! Nobody won!
02:00 <luke-jr> .bet 15
02:00 <tronner> You rolled 6. tronner rolled 7. You lost 15! User luke-jr now has 159 :(
02:00 <luke-jr> .bet 15
02:00 <tronner> You rolled 2. tronner rolled 7. You lost 15! User luke-jr now has 144 :(
02:00 <luke-jr> .bet 15
02:00 <tronner> You rolled 7. tronner rolled 4. You win 15! User luke-jr now has 159 :)
02:00 <luke-jr> .bet 15
02:00 <tronner> Both rolled 7! Nobody won!
02:00 <luke-jr> .bet 150
02:00 <tronner> You rolled 11. tronner rolled 9. You win 150! User luke-jr now has 309 :)
02:00 <luke-jr> ok :p
02:01 <luke-jr> .bet 50
02:01 <tronner> Can't bet 50! You only have 9!
02:01 <luke-jr> ………………….
02:01 <nniveus> lawl
02:01 <noob13> hmm..
02:01 <nniveus> give up, go to vegas instead
02:01 <noob13> heh, something strange happaned apparently..
02:01 <noob13> nniveus, yea, bored in clas today -.-
02:01 <luke-jr> more like nniveus say there hittign reload on my link
02:02 <nniveus> well it was working perfectly till luke stole all my money
02:02 <luke-jr> prove it
02:02  * nniveus will not
02:02 <BabyBug> she wasn't the one hitting reload ;)
02:02 <nniveus> LOL
02:02 <luke-jr> BabyBug: gfy
02:02 <luke-jr> BabyBug: I bankrupt you minutes ago
02:03 <BabyBug> haven't you learned by now that i hate irc games?
02:03 <luke-jr> ]y start theme=twg
02:03 <ljrbot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "]yandere" to join.
02:03 <luke-jr> ]y force BabyBug
02:03 <BabyBug> ]y quit
02:03 <ljrbot> The Worm Game game has been forced to end.
02:03 <nniveus> lol
02:03 <nniveus> babybug do it just once ;) want to see how it works
02:04 <BabyBug> Newp
02:04  * nniveus nudges
02:04 <ct|kyle> .bet
02:04 <tronner> New user ct|kyle has 100 credits to gamble! Good luck! :D
02:04  * BabyBug nudges back
02:04 <nniveus> NO MORE GAMBLING
02:04 <luke-jr> .bet nniveus
02:04 <tronner> You have to place a bet!
02:04 <luke-jr> I DID
02:04 <nniveus> lols
02:04 <luke-jr> or are you saying nniveus is worthless?
02:04 <ct|kyle> .bet 20
02:04 <tronner> New user ct|kyle has 100 credits to gamble! Good luck! :D
02:04 <luke-jr> wtf
02:04 <BabyBug> haha ct|kyle can't play
02:04 <luke-jr> .bet 20
02:04 <tronner> Can't bet 20! You only have 9!
02:04 <luke-jr> …
02:04 <ct|kyle> .bet 20
02:04 <tronner> New user ct|kyle has 100 credits to gamble! Good luck! :D
02:04 <luke-jr> ………..
02:05 <ct|kyle> lol
02:05 <noob13> Oo
02:05 <BabyBug> i'm guessing it's the |
02:05 <ct|kyle> .bet 20
02:05 <tronner> New user ct|kyle has 100 credits to gamble! Good luck! :D
02:05 <noob13> true.
02:05 <luke-jr> .bet '); DELETE ALL FROM bet;
02:05 <tronner> You have to place a bet!
02:05 <luke-jr> aw
02:05 <BabyBug> nt luke, lol
02:05 -!- ct|kyle is now known as kyle3
02:05 <luke-jr> New user \');DELETE ALL FROM bets; has 100 credits to gamble! Good luck! :D
02:05 <luke-jr> -.-
02:06 <kyle3> .bet
02:06 <tronner> You have to place a bet!
02:06 <nniveus> we get that it's screwed up guys :)
02:06 <kyle3> .bet 20
02:06 <tronner> You rolled 4. tronner rolled 9. You lost 20! User kyle3 now has 80 :(
02:06  * nniveus wants to play the worm game >_>
02:06 <dlh> Anyone have any idea how to track a series in a bug, like on this one <https://bugs.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+bug/331940>?
02:06 <kyle3> .bet 29
02:06 <tronner> You rolled 7. tronner rolled 11. You lost 29! User kyle3 now has 51 :(
02:06 <luke-jr> ]y start theme=twg
02:06 <teabot> Launchpad bug 331940 in armagetronad/trunk "trunk can't connect to 0.2.8.2.1 servers" [High,Fix committed]
02:06 <ljrbot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "]yandere" to join.
02:06 <kyle3> .bet 50
02:06 <tronner> You rolled 9. tronner rolled 5. You win 50! User kyle3 now has 152 :)
02:06 <nniveus> ]yandere
02:07 <luke-jr> noob13: play
02:07 <BabyBug> ]y quit
02:07 <ljrbot> The Worm Game game has been forced to end.
02:07 <nniveus> lawl
02:07 <luke-jr> ]admin ignore add BabyBug
02:07 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
02:07 <nniveus> babybugs >:(
02:07 <luke-jr> ]y start theme=twg
02:07 <ljrbot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "]yandere" to join.
02:07 <nniveus> ]yandere
02:07 -!- kyle3 is now known as ct|kyle
02:07 <ct|kyle> ]y quit
02:08 <ljrbot> The Worm Game game has been forced to end.
02:08 <luke-jr> >:O
02:08 <luke-jr> ]admin ignore add ct|kyle
02:08 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
02:08 <luke-jr> ]y start theme=twg
02:08 <ljrbot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "]yandere" to join.
02:08 <nniveus> luke xD
02:08 <luke-jr> ]y force noob13
02:08 <luke-jr> ]y force zurd
02:08 <luke-jr> ]y force nniveus
02:08 <luke-jr> ]yh
02:08 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: #kick ljrbot
02:08 <ljrbot> At 3:33 in the morning, the computer wakes up to an illegal opcode. It's coming from the direction of KWrite! You all run to her directory and find that she was wasted by corrupt memory. She seems to have been the victim of a worm!
02:08 <ljrbot> This game has 1 worm. It's your job to determine the worms.
02:08 <ljrbot> This game starts at DAY. Discuss.
02:08 <ljrbot> Current players: luke-jr, noob13, zurd, and nniveus.
02:09 <nniveus> so
02:09 <ct|kyle> nniveus == worm
02:09 <nniveus> anyone want to explain? :P
02:09 <luke-jr> ]vote nniveus
02:09 <ljrbot> luke-jr has voted for nniveus. nniveus: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 3
02:09 <luke-jr> nniveus: ]y help
02:09 <nniveus> ]y help
02:09 <noob13> hmm..
02:10 <dlh> Please, have bot games in another channel.
02:10 <BabyBug> dlh, type ]y quit to stop it :)
02:10 <luke-jr> dlh, wait till this game is done
02:10 <nniveus> hm i feel bad now :/ you guys hate it that much?
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02:11 <grrr> ]y quit
02:11 <ljrbot> The Worm Game game has been forced to end.
02:11 <ljrbot> Evil worms: luke-jr
02:11 <ljrbot> Firewalls: noob13
02:11 <grrr> mwahaha
02:11 <ljrbot> Hardware: nniveus
02:11 <ljrbot> Virus scanners: zurd
02:11 <noob13> :P
02:11 <nniveus> ;(
02:11 <noob13> i am a firewall?
02:11 <luke-jr> #armatwgetron
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02:12 -!- noob13 is now known as noob|13
02:12 <noob|13> .bet 2
02:12 <tronner> You rolled 10. tronner rolled 11. You lost 2! User noob13 now has 20.00657765285 :(
02:12 -!- noob|13 is now known as noob13
02:12 <luke-jr> noob13: didn't you hear dlh?
02:12 <noob13> no
02:12 <noob13> oh right..
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02:13 <luke-jr> noob13: #armatwgetron
02:13  * nniveus pokes noob
02:14  * BabyBug cuddles nniveus 
02:14  * nniveus ignores for not playing with her :/
02:14 <BabyBug> Oh i'll play with you any night hunni ;)
02:15 <nniveus> so why not tonight? D;
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02:15 <BabyBug> cause bossy bitch is on msn :P
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02:16 <luke-jr> nsh22: #armatwgetron
02:16 <nniveus> there are a number of people who can fit that name
02:16 <nsh22> brb
02:17 <BabyBug> nniveus, lizmatic :P
02:18 <nniveus> lol
02:18 <nniveus> i see ;_;
02:19 <nsh22> what name?
02:20 <luke-jr> ]sd -v spinning
02:20 <ljrbot> luke-jr: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “spinning” at the moment, sorry.
02:21 <nsh22> FAIL (btw what are you trying to do
02:22 <luke-jr> ]sd -v spinning
02:22 <ljrbot> luke-jr: Zones v2 Spinning Square Map (65.18.193.129:4540) running 0.3_alpha8658 unix dedicated, url: http://lightfoot.dashjr.org, Description: “Hosted on Luke-Jr's Armagetron Servers -- http://lightfoot.dashjr.org“, Players (0/16):
02:22 <luke-jr> ☺
02:22 <nsh22> o0
02:23 <nsh22> did u do what i think yu did?
02:23 <luke-jr> XD
02:23 <nniveus> >_> what happened?
02:23 <nsh22> square ones?
02:23 <nsh22> square zones*?
02:25 <luke-jr> nsh22: nothing new there
02:25 <nsh22> luke-jr: ??? ive never heard about them
02:26 <ljrbot> New news from armagetronadbzr: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r899 Rebase quit working again... merge || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r898 Select first menu item. Fixes bug #345172... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] spinning square map :D
02:26 <nsh22> oh, the map spins?
02:27 <nsh22> wtf?
02:35 <nsh22> @gtfy nniveus x-chat 2
02:35 <teabot> nniveus: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=x-chat%202
02:40 <nniveus> i'll get my hands on that in a bit
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02:52 <luke-jr> BabyBug: ok
02:52 <BabyBug> :)
02:52 <luke-jr> ]sd -v spinning
02:52 <ljrbot> luke-jr: Zones v2 Spinning Square Map (65.18.193.129:4540) running 0.3_alpha20090318 unix dedicated, url: http://lightfoot.dashjr.org, Description: “Hosted on Luke-Jr's Armagetron Servers -- http://lightfoot.dashjr.org“, Players (1/16): luke-jr
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02:59 <nsh22> luke-jr: what version do  i need to get on the spinning map server
03:00 <nsh22> btw thats the first time ive ever seen you on a server
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03:03 <nsh22> luke-jr: !
03:04 <nsh22> ]sd -v spinning
03:04 <ljrbot> nsh22: Zones v2 Spinning Square Map (65.18.193.129:4540) running 0.3_alpha20090318 unix dedicated, url: http://lightfoot.dashjr.org, Description: “Hosted on Luke-Jr's Armagetron Servers -- http://lightfoot.dashjr.org“, Players (1/16): luke-jr
03:05 <BabyBug> nsh22, trunk
03:05 <nsh22> dammit
03:06 <nsh22> ...
03:06  * nsh22 hates his inability to do anything with the trunk or any of its files
03:07 <nsh22> @pool 4
03:07 <nsh22> @poll 4
03:07 <teabot> nsh22: Poll #4: "Should armabot be brought back?" started by neal. Options: #1: "yes"; #2: "no".  Poll is open.
03:07 <nsh22> @poll 4 1
03:07 <teabot> nsh22: (poll [<channel>] <id>) -- Displays the poll question and options for the given poll id. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
03:09 <nsh22> ]si df
03:09 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: "si" is not a valid command.
03:12 <nsh22> ]night
03:12 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: "night" is not a valid command.
03:12 <nsh22> ]alias add night " echo Good night $who !"
03:12 <ljrbot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
03:12 <nsh22> ]night
03:12 <ljrbot> Good night nsh22 !
03:12 <nsh22> wewt im gettin good at this :P
03:13 <BabyBug> ]night
03:13 <ljrbot> BabyBug: Error: "night" is not a valid command.
03:13 <BabyBug> not that good
03:13 <nsh22> o0
03:13 <nsh22> ]night
03:13 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: "night" is not a valid command.
03:13 <nsh22> ]alias add morn " echo Good mornin' $who !"
03:13 <ljrbot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
03:13 <nsh22> ]alias add night " echo Good night $who !"
03:13 <ljrbot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
03:13 <nsh22> ]night
03:13 <ljrbot> Good night nsh22 !
03:13 <nsh22> ]morn
03:13 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: "morn" is not a valid command.
03:13 <nsh22> ]night
03:13 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: "night" is not a valid command.
03:14 <nsh22> i has a feeling luke (or  someone else) is deleteing them as i make them...
03:14 <nsh22> ]alias add night "echo Good night $who !"
03:14 <ljrbot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
03:14 <nsh22> ]night
03:14 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: "night" is not a valid command.
03:15 <nsh22> you fail
03:15 <nsh22> ]alias list
03:15 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: The "Alias" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "list" in it.  Try "list Alias" to see the commands in the "Alias" plugin.
03:15 <nsh22> ]list alias
03:15 <ljrbot> nsh22: roulette, /me, 8ball, a, aawiki, abstain, abstains, action, add, aka, armaconfig, ban, blame, bzr, cheer, die, die, ding, fake, faustov, femalesheep, findyandereplayers, fist, flush, fuck, get, gishslap, give, h, hi, hui, hurry, iamnotaretard, iamretard, inf, insult, is, itsalie, jimp, kickban, kicks, kill, lastseen, lbargue, lick, lickban, lock, logs, loli, lolly, make, man, myip, (2 more messages)
03:15 <nsh22> ]more
03:15 <ljrbot> nsh22: nowai!, orly?, petition, phokeu, pino, r, raep, rape, rating, rating2, redefine, remove, ren, rm, rri, runciblegun, sd, sex, sheepfucker, shut, soap, stab, stalk, stfu, stuff, sucks, summon, tea, thatgif, thing, twg, unlock, unvote, van, vote, wave, whoareyou, whofarted, wito, y, ya, yandere, yandre, yarly!, yc, yc2, ye, yex, yh, yj, yokatta, youtube, yr, yu, yv, ヤ, ヤンデレ, (1 more message)
03:15 <nsh22> ]help raep
03:15 <ljrbot> nsh22: (raep <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "/me raeps $1 .".
03:16 <nsh22> ]help rape
03:16 <ljrbot> nsh22: (rape <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "action rapes $1.".
03:16 <nsh22> ]help get
03:16 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: That command exists in the Alias and Quote plugins.  Please specify exactly which plugin command you want help with.
03:16 <nsh22> ]help yc2
03:16 <ljrbot> nsh22: (yc2 <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo [nicks #anime]".
03:16 <nsh22> ]help yex
03:16 <ljrbot> nsh22: (yex <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "yandere extend".
03:17 <nsh22> ]help thatgif
03:17 <ljrbot> nsh22: (thatgif <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo http://www.hongfire.com/cg/data/14/1193901536831.gif".
03:17 <nsh22> ]help shut
03:17 <ljrbot> nsh22: (shut <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "$*".
03:17 <nsh22> ]shut
03:17 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: "" is not a valid command.
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03:26 <ljrbot> New news from armagetronadbzr: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r900 Corrected selected value
03:26 <luke-jr> ]list rss
03:26 <ljrbot> luke-jr: add, announce, armagetronadbzr, info, remove, and rss
03:26 <luke-jr> ]rss info
03:26 <ljrbot> luke-jr: (rss info <url|feed>) -- Returns information from the given RSS feed, namely the title, URL, description, and last update date, if available.
03:27 <luke-jr> ]rss info armagetronadbzr
03:27 <ljrbot> luke-jr: Title: Latest Revisions for Armagetron Advanced; URL: <https://code.launchpad.net/armagetronad>; Description: unavailable; Last updated: 21 minutes and 33 seconds ago.
03:32 <smoothice> ]echo luke-jr: WTF?
03:33 <luke-jr> smoothice: FTW
03:33 <luke-jr> ]sd -v spinning
03:33 <ljrbot> luke-jr: Zones v2 Spinning Square Map (65.18.193.129:4540) running 0.3_alpha20090318 unix dedicated, url: http://lightfoot.dashjr.org, Description: “Hosted on Luke-Jr's Armagetron Servers -- http://lightfoot.dashjr.org“, Players (1/16): luke-jr
03:46 <luke-jr> http://tassiedevil.com.au/
03:48 <luke-jr> oops, I reported bug 345216 about 2 weeks early :x
03:48 <teabot> Launchpad bug 345216 in armagetronad "Tasmanian devils are real" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/345216
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04:26 <ljrbot> New news from armagetronadbzr: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r901 height=0.01 on border walls
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04:57 <Pathetique> wrtlprnft: BUG: maptransform.py scales all numbers that occur in <Field> and it's children, including spawn point directions.
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11:02 <joda_bot> luke-jr: XML default values in DTD are bad :-)
11:02 <joda_bot> luke-jr: believe me, if you can avoid default values in DTDs don't do it
11:20 <joda_bot> luke-jr: might have misread the bug report .. implicict attributes in DTDs are bad, because they require validation by a parser (to add the default attributes).
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12:27 <Lucifer> http://www.good.is/?p=14716
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14:30 <ljrbot> New news from armagetronadbzr: [armagetronad-old-glancing] r761 Merge from trunk
14:40 <nsh22> luke-jr: how har would it be for *me* to add auth to one of my servers? could i just edit the version?
14:58 <luke-jr> nsh22: sure, as long as you compile the new version you specify
14:59 <nsh22> o0
14:59 <luke-jr> and install it
14:59 <luke-jr> joda_bot: worse yet are default values that aren't supposed to be correct :
15:00 <nsh22> luke-jr: i think zurd already installed it5 (and i did deit the svcconfig file and it worked :P)
15:00 <luke-jr> SvcConfig has two uppercase letters
15:01 <nsh22> yes i know...
15:01 <nsh22> thats what i meant...
15:02 <nsh22> luke-jr: where can i edit the ai?
15:02 <luke-jr> nsh22: you need to copy the aiplayers.cfg to the local server config/ dir
15:03 <nsh22> ok
15:03 <nsh22> ty
15:05 <nsh22> why is it that you cant adjust the amout of brake you have (like in rubber)
15:06 <nsh22> btw, since we have the bulid bot now, will the trunk be put into an installable [ackage ?
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15:08 <nsh22> o0
15:08 <nsh22> hai
15:11 <akira_arma> question:
15:12 <akira_arma> compiler gives me an "usleep was not declared in this cope" ... can anyone tell me what to include in the header?
15:12 <akira_arma> scope*
15:12 <akira_arma> in tConsole.cpp
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15:15 <joda_bot> akira_arma: state the system you compile on (which target etc. ?)
15:15 <joda_bot> this might help: http://www.ruby-forum.com/topic/174648
15:15 <akira_arma> w32
15:16 <joda_bot> there seems to be some problem with configure and usleep with newer mingw versions
15:17 <akira_arma> so absically it cant find some function?
15:18 <joda_bot> yes
15:18 <joda_bot> and you can't just use sleep instead
15:19 <joda_bot> because win32 sleep has a different time unit (microseconds on unix, milliseconds on windows)
15:21 <joda_bot> which version of mingw do you use ?
15:21 <joda_bot> usleep might be in "include/unistd.h"
15:21 <joda_bot> #include <unistd.h> (if that is not already included)
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15:22 <akira_arma> nope its not
15:23 <joda_bot> if you add this put a comment above it which points to this release note, I guess that you use mingw newer than 3.15
15:23 <joda_bot> http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=24832
15:23 <akira_arma> yay
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15:23 <akira_arma> it was there
15:23 <akira_arma> and another stupid error
15:23 <akira_arma> :(
15:23 <joda_bot> or just write required for mingw >3.15
15:24 <joda_bot> well try googling the error message
15:24 <joda_bot> ;D
15:24 <akira_arma> nice syntax error
15:24 <akira_arma> ;)
15:25 <joda_bot> This helped me locate the include :-) and the point it was introduced in mingw:
15:25 <joda_bot> http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=usleep+include+mingw&btnG=Suche&meta=
15:25 <akira_arma> i solved it
15:25 <akira_arma> now i get
15:25 <akira_arma> windres.exe: F:\\project\\ARMAGE~1\\src\\win32\\ARMAGE~1.RC:70: syntax error
15:25 <akira_arma> :D
15:26 <akira_arma> it'd be alot easier if I would understand what the error is about :(
15:27 <joda_bot> beats me ... I don't know either ... which version of windres.exe do you use, and what is line 70 :D
15:27 <joda_bot> did you change that file ?
15:27 <akira_arma> no
15:27 <akira_arma> this is line 70
15:27 <akira_arma> FILEVERSION MAJOR_VERSION
15:27 <joda_bot> you might have checked out the code with linux linebreaks... perhaps windres.exe requires ... uhm ...
15:28 <joda_bot> ok, I guess it expects a version number there
15:28 <joda_bot> is armagetronad.rc generated ?
15:28 <joda_bot> I don't remember :-)
15:29 <joda_bot> just try to change major_version to 0 or 2 :-)
15:29 <joda_bot> windres.exe will probably complain about MINOR_VERSION next
15:30 <ljrbot> New news from armagetronadbzr: [themes] r6 an example page, and a page with the colors used
15:31 <joda_bot> akira_arma: try running win32\update_Version.bat
15:32 <akira_arma> i am doing alls teps again now
15:32 <joda_bot> I guess you did not do it, so windres.exe actually fails to find version.h or finds a broken syntax file
15:32 <akira_arma> steps
15:32 <joda_bot> ok
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15:32 <joda_bot> just dump me the version.h after you can update_version.bat
15:33 <joda_bot> can --> run
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15:37 <joda_bot> akira_arma: do you build trunk ? for vista ? if you've got any fixes we're happy to patch our resources :D
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15:43 <akira_arma_> sorry my internet just exploded
15:43 <akira_arma_> where is that version.h located?
15:43 <joda_bot> (15:32:34) joda_bot: ok
15:43 <joda_bot> (15:32:37) Lackadaisical hat den Raum verlassen (quit: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)).
15:43 <joda_bot> (15:32:50) joda_bot: just dump me the version.h after you can update_version.bat
15:43 <joda_bot> (15:33:07) joda_bot: can --> run
15:43 <joda_bot> (15:34:35) zurd [i=629675b5@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-80aad57112fce668] hat den Raum betreten.
15:43 <joda_bot> (15:37:05) joda_bot: akira_arma: do you build trunk ? for vista ? if you've got any fixes we're happy to patch our resources :D
15:43 <joda_bot> akira_arma: let me check
15:44 <joda_bot> it's generated in the root of the src folder :D
15:45 <akira_arma_> there is only a trueversion.h
15:45 <akira_arma_> tTrue*
15:46 <joda_bot> is there a update_version.bat  in the win32 subfolder?
15:46 <akira_arma_> yes
15:46 <nsh22> luke-jr: how often do your servers get hacked?
15:46 <akira_arma_> i ran it ebfore compiling
15:46 <joda_bot> which branch/launchpad/svn code archive, are you trying to build ?
15:47 <joda_bot> akira_arma: sounds right to me
15:47 <akira_arma_> dlh's old glancing trunk
15:47 <joda_bot> uh.... so it's a modified trunk build ?
15:47 <akira_arma_> http://rafb.net/p/auaeam40.html
15:48 <akira_arma_> thats the tTrueversion.h file
15:48 <joda_bot> looks strange ?
15:48 <akira_arma_> i have no idea
15:48 <akira_arma_> lol
15:48 <joda_bot> can you dump the output of update_version.h and put it on rafb.net ?
15:49 <joda_bot> ehh stop
15:49 <joda_bot> the console output of running update_version.bat
15:49 <akira_arma_> stopping..
15:49 <akira_arma_> yea siure
15:49 <joda_bot> akira_arma: and it might also help to know where you run it from :D
15:51 <akira_arma_> http://rafb.net/p/cVtASQ63.html
15:51 <joda_bot> ah ok, so someone modified the update_version.bat :D
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15:51 <akira_arma_> that would be dlh
15:52 <joda_bot> akira_arma_: just edit the armagetron.rc to include tTrueVersion.h
15:52 <akira_arma_> ok
15:52 <joda_bot> there is also a syntax error when running python
15:52 <joda_bot> hope that does not break anything
15:53 <akira_arma_> actually it tries to include tTrueversion
15:53 <akira_arma_> or better it inlcudes
15:53 <akira_arma_> ;)
15:54 <akira_arma_> #include "..\tTrueVersion.h"
15:56 <joda_bot> ok, just edit the tTrueVersion.h :D
15:56 <akira_arma_> to what?
15:56 <akira_arma_> :)
15:56 <joda_bot> I guess windres.exe does not like -old-glancing
15:56 <akira_arma_> yup
15:56 <akira_arma_> trhat might bne
15:56 <joda_bot> just make it 0,3,0,4
15:56 <akira_arma_> windows doesnt like slashes etc in filenames
15:56 <joda_bot> something like that
15:57 <joda_bot> something that's a valid normal version number :D
15:57 <joda_bot> also you might want to add a datestamp behind _alpha
15:58 <joda_bot> because you're python 3.01 does not like my "datatime.date.today" python
15:58 <akira_arma_> format?
15:58 <joda_bot> YYYYMMDD=20090317
15:58 <akira_arma_> ah
15:58 <joda_bot> eh 19
15:58 <joda_bot> :D
15:58 <akira_arma_> so the whole line or only the stamp?
15:59 <joda_bot> akira_arma_: if you know some python try to fix that or just try "date.today()"
15:59 <joda_bot> only the stamp
15:59 <joda_bot> wait I'll dump a fixed MAJOR, MINOR_ VERsion
15:59 <akira_arma_> separated with comma or something?
15:59 <akira_arma_> from alpha*
15:59 <akira_arma_> thanks :)
15:59 <joda_bot> #define MAJOR_VERSION 0,3,0,4
15:59 <joda_bot> #define MINOR_VERSION _alpha20080319
16:01 <akira_arma_> omfg built!
16:01 <akira_arma_> no i am curious
16:01 <akira_arma_> now*
16:01 <joda_bot> hehe, akira_arma_ :-) cool :-)
16:01 <zurd> .bet 2
16:01 <tronner> You rolled 8. tronner rolled 4. You win 2! User zurd now has 12 :)
16:02 <zurd> .bet 2
16:02 <tronner> You rolled 8. tronner rolled 2. You win 2! User zurd now has 14 :)
16:02 <zurd> .bet 2
16:02 <tronner> You rolled 5. tronner rolled 10. You lost 2! User zurd now has 12 :(
16:02 <joda_bot> send dlh a merge request later ( no idea how to do that with launchpad yet)
16:02 <zurd> .bet 10
16:02 <tronner> You rolled 6. tronner rolled 10. You lost 10! User zurd now has 2 :(
16:02 <zurd> .bet 2
16:02 <tronner> Both rolled 5! Nobody won!
16:02 <zurd> .bet 1
16:02 <tronner> Both rolled 3! Nobody won!
16:02 <zurd> .bet 1
16:02 <tronner> You rolled 7. tronner rolled 8. You lost 1! User zurd now has 1 :(
16:02 <akira_arma_> but why does it build no binary?
16:02 <zurd> .bet 1
16:02 <tronner> You rolled 5. tronner rolled 9. You lost 1! User zurd now has 0 :(
16:02 <zurd> >.<
16:03 <joda_bot> akira_arma_: uh ? linker errors ? or it's not in the directory you're looking for ? :-)
16:03 <akira_arma_> well i am in the build folder
16:03 <akira_arma_> build / dist
16:03 <akira_arma_> :(
16:04 <nsh22> .bet 10
16:04 <tronner> New user nsh22 has 100 credits to gamble! Good luck! :D
16:04 <nsh22> .bet 10
16:04 <tronner> Both rolled 5! Nobody won!
16:04 <nsh22> .bet 10
16:04 <tronner> You rolled 6. tronner rolled 2. You win 10! User nsh22 now has 110 :)
16:04 <nsh22> .bet 10
16:04 <tronner> You rolled 3. tronner rolled 11. You lost 10! User nsh22 now has 100 :(
16:04 <nsh22> .bet 10
16:04 <tronner> You rolled 6. tronner rolled 11. You lost 10! User nsh22 now has 90 :(
16:04 <nsh22> .bet 10
16:04 <tronner> You rolled 7. tronner rolled 6. You win 10! User nsh22 now has 100 :)
16:04 <BabyBug> joda_bot, you just need to use brackets for the print() function so it'll work with python 2 and 3
16:04 <nsh22> 100
16:04 <nsh22> .bet 100
16:04 <tronner> Both rolled 8! Nobody won!
16:04 <nsh22> .bet 100
16:04 <tronner> You rolled 10. tronner rolled 6. You win 100! User nsh22 now has 200 :)
16:04 <nsh22> .bet 100
16:04 <tronner> You rolled 10. tronner rolled 7. You win 100! User nsh22 now has 300 :)
16:04 <nsh22> .bet 100
16:04 <tronner> You rolled 6. tronner rolled 11. You lost 100! User nsh22 now has 200 :(
16:04 <nsh22> .bet 100
16:04 <tronner> You rolled 10. tronner rolled 7. You win 100! User nsh22 now has 300 :)
16:04 <BabyBug> nsh22, stop fucking spamming
16:05 <joda_bot> #kick nsh22
16:05 <P4> can't you play PRV?!
16:05 <joda_bot> :R
16:05 <joda_bot> P4: hi , thx :-)
16:05 <nsh22> joda_bot: armabots not here
16:05 <P4> hi joda_bot :)
16:05 <P4> why?
16:05 <akira_arma_> this is annoying :(
16:05 <joda_bot> akira_arma_: see BabyBug's fix
16:05 <nsh22> BabyBug: ok oim done
16:05 <akira_arma_> well it has nothing to do with this now
16:05 <joda_bot> P4: armabot has been replaced by ljrbot
16:05 <joda_bot> and buildbot
16:05 <joda_bot> I guess
16:05 <P4> oh
16:06 <akira_arma_> since the build is finished without errors
16:06 <joda_bot> akira_arma_: what do you use to build code::blocks ?
16:06 <akira_arma_> i ran makedist after
16:06 <zurd> armabuilder: status
16:06 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle, last build 293904 secs ago: failed Distcheck Installcheck
16:06 <armabuilder> linux-server: idle, last build 278551 secs ago: build successful
16:06 <akira_arma_> yes blcks
16:07 <joda_bot> hm, try clicking on the run button, and looke for the executables in %arma_dir%\buidl..\
16:07 <joda_bot> but someone might have changed the directories too :-)
16:08 <joda_bot> I guess I understand the need for tTrueVersion.h now
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16:11 <akira_arma_> o wait
16:11 <akira_arma_> NOT built
16:12 <akira_arma_> gah
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16:12 <akira_arma_> some stuff is missing in winlibs
16:12 <akira_arma_> :/
16:13 <akira_arma_> mingw32-g++.exe: .\libZThread.a: No such file or directory
16:13 <akira_arma_> mingw32-g++.exe: ..\..\..\winlibs\protobuf\vsprojects\libprotobuf.a: No such file or directory
16:17 <akira_arma_> found the latter but not the former
16:17 <akira_arma_> joda_bot: care to dcc_send it to me?
16:18 <joda_bot> akira_arma_: I've not build trunk for ages, I don't have that lib
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16:19 <akira_arma_> downloading..
16:20  * nsh22 is cold
16:20 <BabyBug> go die in a volcano then
16:21 <joda_bot> akira_arma_: did you find pre_compiled win32 versions ?
16:21 <akira_arma_> ah
16:21 <akira_arma_> no idea
16:21 <akira_arma_> ;)
16:22 <BabyBug> Is it only possible to build the windows version on windows?
16:22 <luke-jr> nsh22: never?
16:22 <akira_arma_> actually i give up
16:22 <akira_arma_> :/
16:22 <joda_bot> akira_arma_: ok, I'll take a look, but if I don't find them, I don't mind you adding the neccessary stuff to the Winlibs Code::Blocks project :-)
16:22 <nsh22> luke-jr: ok :P just wondering how often armaservers get hacked to disprove soeone
16:22 <luke-jr> oh, armaservers
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16:23 <luke-jr> as often as their owners put bad passwords on them I guess
16:23 <compguygene> hi luke
16:23 <luke-jr> hi
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16:24 <compguygene> my servers now have assigned ports...lol
16:25 <joda_bot> akira_arma_: I might try to fix trunk project files and dependencies on the weekend
16:25 <joda_bot> akira_arma_: if I'm motivated enough :-)
16:25 <akira_arma_> yea care for the poor w32 users
16:25 <akira_arma_> ;)
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16:26 <compguygene> that would be kewl...
16:26 <epsy> hm?
16:28 <compguygene> hi epsy...i plan to make an attempt to make a windows install out of teh trunk
16:28  * compguygene really wants to check out the new stuff
16:28 <epsy> ah right
16:29 <compguygene> unfortunatley, until i get a new laptop..no pc i call my own ergo no linux
16:30 <joda_bot> compguygene: talk to akira_arma_ he got pretty far
16:30 <zurd> easy solution
16:31 <epsy> I should get the cmakelists windows-friendly
16:31 <joda_bot> compguygene: just have to fix two library dependencies :-) ...
16:31 <joda_bot> epsy: more build chains for windows are welcome :-)
16:31 <epsy> stuff like "${PYTHON_INTERPRETER} script" instead of "script"
16:31 <joda_bot> epsy: did anyone prepare lib zthread and protobuf for windows ?
16:31 <epsy> then it should work as far as the linxu build does
16:32 <epsy> I don't know
16:32 <joda_bot> e.g. add them to one version of winlibs ?
16:32 <epsy> zthread is kinda temporary anyway
16:32 <compguygene> well, when you guys feel that the trunk is ready...i have the neccesary tools installed on 2 pc's
16:32 <BabyBug> I thought there was a winlibs branch?
16:32 <joda_bot> epsy: what's the goal with zhreads ?
16:32 <epsy> joda_bot, main priority was lightweightness, so it would fit as a new dep for 0.2.8.3
16:32 <joda_bot> BabyBug: there is, but some dependencies are not updated / included yet
16:33 <epsy> now, we will soon have boost linked
16:33 <joda_bot> epsy: ah, ok and boost replaces zthread ?
16:33 <epsy> so using boost::threads would be far better:
16:33 <epsy> 1/ boost is well-known and you can expect it to be installed
16:33 <joda_bot> hm ok... I guess I'll have to dump the full boost 10MB into the winlibs then :-P
16:33 <epsy> 2/ that removes a dep
16:33 <epsy> lol
16:34 <epsy> cmake should find them on the system afaik
16:34 <joda_bot> cmake ? but you need to drop the boost headers somewhere ?
16:35 <epsy> _I_ don't know :/
16:35 <joda_bot> epsy: do you know any project focusing on providing precompiled win32 libraries ?
16:35 <epsy> cygwin haha
16:35 <joda_bot> because I'd rather add a few more precompiled updated into winlibs and maintain those, than to add soo much source files (copied from another repository)
16:35 <epsy> otherwise I don't know, they usually just do them themselves
16:36 <joda_bot> on the other hand, someone needs to build the newer versions of the "precompiled" libs and I only know sites for some of the libraries (for example gnu32 and sdl.org)
16:37 <joda_bot> eh, gnuwin32 :D
16:37 <joda_bot> yeah, but it might help to just provide a central organized repository of precompiled(updated) libraries (static and dll with headers)
16:38 <epsy> or even a package manager, huh ? :)
16:38 <epsy> that should exist
16:38 <joda_bot> epsy: find it , please :D
16:39 <epsy> http://www.winpackman.org/
16:39 <epsy> heh :/
16:39 <joda_bot> epsy: I guess there is no such thing for open source windows stuff :-| and afaik microsoft compiler and mingw both can use the same dll but might require different .lib files indicating the function addressed
16:39 <epsy> http://code.google.com/p/winaptic/
16:40 <joda_bot> epsy: last build 2007
16:40 <epsy> yeah :
16:40 <epsy> :<
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16:44 <compguygene> you might try win-get
16:44 <compguygene> http://windows-get.sourceforge.net/
16:47 <compguygene> unfortunatly, last build 2007 also
16:48 <epsy> http://windows-get.sourceforge.net/listapps.php
16:50 <joda_bot> compguygene: it makes no sense to have libs which are not maintained :-|
16:50 <joda_bot> epsy: did you actually see the list of apss ?
16:51 <epsy> no
16:51 <epsy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBi6NI-W3Zs&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Ffailblog.org%2Fpage%2F2%2F&feature=player_embedded
16:52 <epsy> arma's last release was in 2006 also :)
16:52 <compguygene> i see that...just trying to help...but i haven't seen any other projects like what your looking for..
16:52 <compguygene> lol
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16:55 <zurd> .bet 1
16:55 <ct|kyle> zurd: FAIL
16:55 <zurd> ct|kyle agreed
16:55 <epsy> hrmpf
16:57 <BabyBug> oi epsy that's my word!
16:58 <epsy> :<
16:58 <compguygene> catch u all later...i'm going to play some arma..while taking my short break..later all
16:58 <epsy> bb
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17:00 <joda_bot> I need a win32 ports :-P project on launchpad :-) that just generates .lib / header etc. in an easy way (and can provide them for all)
17:02 <luke-jr> joda_bot: wtf?
17:02 <joda_bot> then I'd also need to maintain it or ask library devs to update the builds ... on release which won't happen ... :D soo scrap that :-)
17:03 <joda_bot> luke-jr: you've got distributions to maintain / create updated precomiled libraries ... poor windows people have to compile them all the time
17:03 <joda_bot> atleast those where projects choose not to provide development dlls /libs
17:03 <joda_bot> with headers
17:04 <luke-jr> joda_bot: .lib isn't really a library you know
17:04 <luke-jr> .lib is just a bunch of metadata
17:05 <luke-jr> someone tell tronner to get a clue
17:05 <luke-jr> anyhow, I see no reason to help Windows
17:07  * BabyBug sees a reason
17:07 <epsy> http://www.cmake.org/cmake/help/cmake2.6docs.html#command:option
17:07 <epsy> luke-jr, I'm officially dumb :)
17:08 <luke-jr> epsy: so is cmake
17:08 <luke-jr> sounds like some idiot decided defaults should be hardcoded?
17:08 <luke-jr> oh
17:08 <luke-jr> misread it
17:08 <luke-jr> nm
17:09 <epsy> heh :)
17:09 <epsy> right, floor shows properly, but I still get no AI
17:09 <epsy> weird
17:09 <luke-jr> epsy: be careful to make sure you build plugins the same way
17:09 <luke-jr> eg, not via any .a file
17:10 <epsy> hm?
17:10 <luke-jr> for example, zZone.o gets put into libtron.a which gets linked into armagetronad
17:10 <luke-jr> you can't have a .a with plugins
17:10 <epsy> ah
17:11 <luke-jr> the linker will discard them
17:11 <epsy> you mean having .so's and co?
17:11 <luke-jr> since nothing references them
17:11 <luke-jr> no
17:11 <luke-jr> if you have zFortress.o inside libtron.a, the linker will discard it
17:11 <luke-jr> you need to specify zFortress.o on the link command
17:11 <epsy> oh, I get it
17:11 <luke-jr> same for any other addons
17:13 <luke-jr> epsy: eEvent cannot be used locally?
17:13 <luke-jr> eg, not sent over the network?
17:13 <epsy> it can
17:13 <epsy> just don't Send() it, only Execute() it
17:13 <luke-jr> i c
17:13 <luke-jr> would it be as efficient as using virtuals like we do now?
17:14 <epsy> what do you mean?
17:14 <luke-jr> eg, the "Inside" event for every object inside a zone
17:14 <luke-jr> every timestep
17:14 <epsy> ah
17:14 <epsy> no, I'd rather keep it to "x entered zone"
17:14 <epsy> but well, you're free to do otherwise
17:15 <luke-jr> Inside/Entry are the same kind of event currently :o
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17:40 <epsy> right
17:42 <smoothice> anyone have an experience putting binary data into MySQL?
17:43 <epsy> like #mysql?
17:47 <joda_bot> smoothice: programming language you're using try to check if it has blob support (binary large object)
17:47 <joda_bot> the database has to support that too, of course ?
17:47 <smoothice> PHP/MYSQL
17:48 <smoothice> trying to use mysql as an image database
17:48 <smoothice> joda_bot: allowing images to be uploaded using a client-side application using POST and then stored in MySQL for viewing
17:50 <BabyBug> smoothice, what do you want to know exactly?
17:53 <smoothice> BabyBug: how to insert images into the database using PHP
17:53 <smoothice> as binary
17:54 <smoothice> I tried googling
17:54 <smoothice> but I'm not using an HTML form
17:54 <smoothice> It's coming from a C socket connection via POST
17:55 <BabyBug> smoothice, you have the field data type in the table set as longblob?
17:55 <joda_bot> smoothice: are you sure you want to code that yourself ? why not use gallery2 ? :-)
17:56 <joda_bot> smoothice: also I'm not sure putting images into the db is wise, because a webserver can serve them much faster without the db ?
18:01 <smoothice> joda_bot: this is large scale project
18:01 <smoothice> joda_bot: file I/O might not be any faster?
18:01 <joda_bot> smoothice: are you using data abtraction layers ?
18:01 <smoothice> joda_bot: ???
18:01 <joda_bot> usually reinventing the wheel is more painful ?
18:02 <smoothice> but file I/O might not be any faster
18:02 <joda_bot> smoothice: there are kernel mods for serving files from kernel memory etc. which is not possible with databases
18:02 <smoothice> this is also going to run on shared web hosting
18:02 <joda_bot> smoothice: also often images are server from different servers than the php/database one
18:03 <smoothice> standard consumer shared web hosting
18:03 <joda_bot> smoothice: this contradicts "large scale project" :D
18:03 <smoothice> well
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18:03 <smoothice> I'm part of a large scale company running on low scale hosting
18:03 <joda_bot> smoothice: I can understand though, that customizing gallery2 might not be want you want :)
18:03 <smoothice> we don't have that much $$
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18:04 <joda_bot> smoothice: will you always have mysql databases, php and apache ?
18:04 <joda_bot> or might the environment differ
18:04 <joda_bot> ?
18:04 <joda_bot> argh, time
18:04 <joda_bot> smoothice: talk to you in 1-2h ... just g2g sry
18:04 <smoothice> k
18:04 <smoothice> joda_bot: k
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18:31 <zurd> .bet 1
18:31 <ljrbot> New news from armagetronadbzr: [armagetronad-map-unified-dtd] r902 merge up to 0.3.1-a into map.dtd
18:31 <zurd> .whoami
18:31 <tronner> zurd: I don't recognize you.
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18:36 <zurd> ]whoami
18:36 <ljrbot> zurd: I don't recognize you.
18:36 <zurd> @whoami
18:36 <teabot> zurd: I don't recognize you.
18:36 <zurd> #whoami
18:36 <zurd> ugh
18:36 <epsy> zurd: I don't recognize you.
18:37 <zurd> >.<
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18:42 <zurd> omfg i got a 4page essay due in 1hr
18:42 <zurd> peace
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19:31 <ljrbot> New news from armagetronadbzr: [armagetronad-map-unified-dtd] r907 fix for older zone format || [armagetronad-map-unified-dtd] r906 bump map.dtd version & copy || [armagetronad-map-unified-dtd] r905 bump ver || [armagetronad-map-unified-dtd] r904 merge up to 0.3.1-c into map.dtd || [armagetronad-map-unified-dtd] r903 fix up zone effect merging || [trunk-cmake] r904 Use option() for dedicated. Floor now shows properly. Auto-M...
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19:57 <nsh22> herro
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19:57 <nsh22> .bet .5
19:57 <zurd> .bet 1
19:58 <noob13> somebody disabled it :P
19:58 <nsh22> ...
19:58 <zurd> >.<
19:58 <nsh22> wiould that someone be BabyBug ?
19:58 <zurd> Luke-jr PING
19:58 <noob13> he or she needs tronner alias capability..
19:58 <noob13> not sure..
19:58 <noob13> .help bet
19:58 <tronner> noob13: (bet <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "gambling fails".
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19:58 <luke-jr> zurd: wat
19:59 <noob13> .alias remove bet
19:59 <BabyBug> Not me, but whoever did it deserves a big hug!
19:59 <noob13> ;D
19:59 <smoothice> ct|kyle: ping
19:59 <smoothice> .seen joda_bot
19:59 <tronner> smoothice: joda_bot was last seen in #armagetron 1 hour, 55 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <joda_bot> smoothice: talk to you in 1-2h ... just g2g sry
20:00 <noob13> .seen noob7
20:00 <tronner> noob13: I have not seen noob7.
20:00 <smoothice> .seen noob13
20:00 <noob13> .seen armabot
20:00 <tronner> smoothice: noob13 was last seen in #armagetron 7 seconds ago: <noob13> .seen noob7
20:00 <tronner> noob13: armabot was last seen in #armagetron 5 weeks, 3 days, 2 hours, 30 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <armabot> s0beit: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo: Players (8/12): -=VcL.SoBeiT, @RG@Brezer, CT_emphasis, drodimo, Micky, Mr|Flo, _-`Ww_Gaspard, ~|DST|~AshitakA
20:00 <smoothice> tronner: hi
20:00 <tronner> Hello :) [q]
20:00 <smoothice> tronner: what's new?
20:01 <smoothice> I  Tronner
20:01 <smoothice> ct|kyle: ping?
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20:02 <noob13> ;P
20:02 <noob13> !bet top
20:02 <Frobot> [1] nniveus: 400 [2] nsh22: 300 [3] Karambol: 170 [4] pilot1123: 147 [5] mama: 107 [6] plt: 100.01 [7] ctkyle: 100 [8] Caemyr: 100 [9] kahukai: 100 [10] Banan: 100 [11] morsik: 80 [12] Milya0: 40 [13] P4: 40 [14] Ilkka: 26 [15] Remik: 10
20:02 <smoothice> ,,,
20:02 <smoothice> !part
20:02 <Frobot> smoothice: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
20:02 <smoothice> dammit
20:02 <nsh22> sweet im second :P
20:02 <smoothice> nsh22: cool for your butt :P
20:05 <noob13> !bet 7
20:05 <Frobot> Can't bet 7! You only have 0!
20:05 <noob13> !bet plzdonate
20:05 <Frobot> noob13 got mugged by evil donkeys! Lost 4! :(
20:05 <noob13> !bet plzdonate
20:05 <Frobot> noob13 got mugged by evil donkeys! Lost 1! :(
20:05 <noob13> -.-
20:05 <MrBougo> !bet plzdonate
20:05 <Frobot> MrBougo got mugged by evil donkeys! Lost 0! :(
20:06 <MrBougo> wtf is this? :p
20:06 <MrBougo> !help
20:06 <Frobot> MrBougo: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
20:06 <MrBougo> !list bet
20:06 <Frobot> MrBougo: Error: 'bet' is not a valid plugin.
20:06 <akira_arma> some new random spam script
20:06 <noob13> type !bet first
20:06 <MrBougo> !bet help
20:06 <Frobot> New user MrBougo has 100 credits to gamble! Good luck! :D
20:06 <MrBougo> eh
20:06 <MrBougo> !bet first
20:06 <Frobot> You have to place a valid bet!
20:06 <noob13> numeric :P
20:06 <MrBougo> aahaha
20:06 <MrBougo> !bet 5
20:06 <Frobot> You rolled 11. Frobot rolled 5. You win 5! User MrBougo now has 105 :)
20:06 <BabyBug> omg it was disabled on tronner for a reason..
20:06 <MrBougo> :)
20:06 <smoothice> .bet 1
20:07 <smoothice> lol
20:07 <nsh22> !bet
20:07 <Frobot> You have to place a valid bet!
20:07 <nsh22> !bet 100
20:07 <Frobot> You rolled 7. Frobot rolled 6. You win 100! User nsh22 now has 400 :)
20:07 <smoothice> !bet 100
20:07 <Frobot> Can't bet 100! You only have 0!
20:07 <MrBougo> !bet 105
20:07 <nsh22> !bet 100
20:07 <Frobot> You rolled 6. Frobot rolled 8. You lost 105! User MrBougo now has 0 :(
20:07 <Frobot> You rolled 7. Frobot rolled 10. You lost 100! User nsh22 now has 300 :(
20:07 <akira_arma> i gi´ve it 2 more days
20:07 <nsh22> !bet 100
20:07 <Frobot> You rolled 12. Frobot rolled 8. You win 100! User nsh22 now has 400 :)
20:07 <MrBougo> hahaha
20:07 <smoothice> luke-jr: plz
20:07 <nsh22> !bet 100
20:07 <Frobot> You rolled 4. Frobot rolled 11. You lost 100! User nsh22 now has 300 :(
20:07 <MrBougo> !bet plzdonate
20:07 <Frobot> A donation of 26 has been sent to MrBougo.
20:07 <smoothice> luke-jr: kick
20:07 <MrBougo> !bet 26
20:07 <Frobot> You rolled 8. Frobot rolled 6. You win 26! User MrBougo now has 52 :)
20:07 <smoothice> luke-jr: kickban Frobot
20:07 <BabyBug> smoothice, there's no armabot..
20:07 <smoothice> right...
20:07 <nsh22> but there is a ljrbot
20:08 <smoothice> guru3: kickban Frobot please!!!
20:08 <BabyBug> That bot can't kick.
20:08 <nsh22> o0
20:08 <nsh22> give it ops and try it
20:08 <noob13> !part
20:08 <smoothice> ok I'll be in #armagetron-0.3-sty then
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20:08 <smoothice> putting this channel on silence
20:09 <MrBougo> we're done, you know
20:09 <MrBougo> :p
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21:05 <zurd> :o
21:05 <zurd> bb
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21:26 <nsh22> any1 here good with bazaar?
21:27 <smoothice> yes
21:27 <epsy> nsh22, FOR FUCKS SAKE
21:27 <epsy> nsh22, do NOT ask to ask JUST ASK
21:28 <nsh22> is this a correct command : bzr branch lp:yandere/0.2
21:28 <nsh22> epsy: what, maybe ppl arnt good with bzr
21:28 <BabyBug> nsh22, yes it is.
21:28 <BabyBug> nsh22, Do you really think, a channel containing people who use bzr on a daily basis, are not good with bzr?
21:28 <epsy> it is a correct branch, if 0.2 is a release series of yandere that has a main branch
21:28 <nsh22> ...
21:29 <nsh22> well it says bzr s not a recognized command
21:29 <BabyBug> You need to install bzr first...
21:29 <smoothice> ...
21:29 <smoothice> nsh22: -.-
21:29 <smoothice> nsh22: fail...
21:29 <MrBougo> lol
21:30  * epsy points out one hardly needs to know bzr well to understand that
21:31 <nsh22> BabyBug: ... i already have it, thats where im inputing the command
21:31 <nsh22> im not THAT retarded
21:32 <BabyBug> nsh22, Where are you inputting the command? :s
21:32 <epsy> type bzr version
21:32 <epsy> & that, too
21:33 <nsh22> ... bzr is still not recognized as a command
21:33 <nsh22> bah...
21:33 <epsy> so it is not installed [properly]
21:33 <epsy> what did you do so far?
21:34 <nsh22> ah, i g2g anyways, ill deal with it tomorroow
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21:34 <BabyBug> ...
21:34 <smoothice> wow
21:34 <epsy> we'd have it already fixed if he started with his error message
21:35 <MrBougo> :p
21:37 <epsy> blah, I'm bored as ugly shit
21:37 <MrBougo> epsy, that's very bored
21:37  * epsy is drowning now
21:38 <epsy> (MrBougo: you litterally /asked/ for it)
21:38 <MrBougo> epsy, ????
21:38 <epsy> if you didn't get it, so it be
21:38 <MrBougo> yeah
21:38 <MrBougo> well
21:39 <MrBougo> mind to explain?
21:39 <epsy> no
21:39 <MrBougo> kay
21:39 <MrBougo> screw you :)
21:39 <epsy> you'd say screw you as well if I explained it
21:39 <MrBougo> I'll let you get back to your boredness
21:39 <MrBougo> nope cause no word can hurt me :p
21:39 <BabyBug> epsy, you should work on eeevents if you're bored :)
21:40 <BabyBug> or cmake so that it can get merged
21:40 <BabyBug> and look pretty
21:40 <epsy> now wtf is with the AIs not coming and the map being on a white bg
21:40 <BabyBug> still not fixed? :s
21:42 <epsy> the floor is fixed
21:43 <epsy> I have however no idea about the map nor the AIs
21:43 <epsy> well, fixed is a big word
21:43 <epsy> it has been worked around
21:43 <epsy> (just like it had been with the autostuff)
21:45 <BabyBug> hrmph
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21:47 <HyperDrive> greetings programs
21:47 <epsy> Got one :)
21:47  * BabyBug is not a program
21:47 <HyperDrive> heh
21:48 <epsy> <Arnold voice>STOP WHINNING
21:48 <HyperDrive> this is the first time ive ever used irc
21:48 <HyperDrive> so go easy on me :D
21:48 <epsy> welcome
21:48 <HyperDrive> ty
21:48 <epsy> just kidding
21:48 <HyperDrive> bast***
21:48 <HyperDrive> XD
21:48 <epsy> :->
21:49 <HyperDrive> so what do I do now XD
21:49 <BabyBug> Well what you don't do is play silly little IRC games that spam the channel
21:49 <epsy> either iddle or chat
21:49 <epsy> idle *
21:49 <HyperDrive> hey im new, give me a break
21:50 <HyperDrive> what is this channel for exactly ?
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21:51 <epsy> hah
21:51 <BabyBug> epsy, what's the the "v" on the end of Armagetron Advanced on the main menu? (cmake branch)
21:51 <HyperDrive> hey z-man
21:51 <HyperDrive> <- rumpole
21:51 <epsy> BabyBug, the [empty] version tag
21:51 <z-man> Ah.
21:51  * z-man was about to ask who the fuck you are :)
21:51 <BabyBug> epsy, ooooo...you need to fix that to?
21:51 <HyperDrive> hehe
21:51 <epsy> BabyBug, someone needs to edit the python script that generates it
21:51 <BabyBug> What are you waiting for?! 8-)
21:52 <epsy> it sounds BOOORIINGG
21:52 <epsy> more than the build order hacks
21:52 <BabyBug> It's not boring
21:52 <HyperDrive> so im guessing that this is a technical channel then
21:52 <epsy> BabyBug, patches welcome :(
21:52 <epsy> HyperDrive, depends on who's talking
21:52 <BabyBug> Hey python i can do!...erm...which python script? :)
21:53 <epsy> it must be something like batch/make/version.py
21:53 <HyperDrive> I wish I knew how to work this chat thing
21:53 <epsy> yeah
21:53 <HyperDrive> I'll have to find a manual
21:54 <HyperDrive> Is chatzilla firefox plugin a good app to use ?
21:54 <epsy> never tried that
21:54 <epsy> I've dropped the idea of using my browser for everything a long while ago
21:54 <epsy> (especially since firefox is being so crashy with flash)
21:54 <HyperDrive> this is the 1st app ive used on my browser
21:54 <epsy> I use xchat
21:55 <BabyBug> What's a version meant to look like and how the hell is it generated? lol
21:56 <epsy> you just have to fill the fields, second
21:56 <HyperDrive> Is it easy to remove the rim wall rendering (Im guessing it is)
21:56 <HyperDrive> can I just comment out the line, will that cause problems
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21:57 <epsy> BabyBug, see batch/make/version
21:57 <HyperDrive> hi joda.bot
21:57 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: hi
21:57 <joda_bot> smoothice: hi
21:57 <epsy> if you need help on what terms I'm using hl me
21:57 <joda_bot> sorry too about 2h longer than expected :-|
21:57 <BabyBug> epsy, okies :)
21:59 <HyperDrive> brb im going to read the irc manual :P
22:00 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: I never wanted to find one :-)
22:00 <noob13> .tea
22:00 <tronner> noob13: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
22:00 <epsy> z-man, any other link tricks except gFloor, cMap, cCamview and cCockpit?
22:01 <HyperDrive> i need a manual, i dont know why i keep getting funny messages from epsy and joda_bot in the freenode tab
22:01 <HyperDrive> XD
22:01 <epsy> like?
22:02 <HyperDrive> epsy>	[#armagetron] HyperDrive, depends on who's talking
22:02 <HyperDrive> 	<joda_bot>	[#armagetron] HyperDrive: hi
22:02 <HyperDrive> 	<joda_bot>	[#armagetron] HyperDrive: I never wanted to find one :-)
22:02 <HyperDrive> like that
22:02 <HyperDrive> those are not appearing in the #armagetron tab
22:02 <epsy> I suppose it's one of your client's features which is to log lines that highlight you on a separate tab, in case there's a lot of stuff going on
22:03 <epsy> highlihging somone means writing his name so it shows red on his end
22:03 <HyperDrive> I need the manual :P
22:03 <epsy> highlighting*
22:03 <epsy> that's a pretty neat feature, tbh, and I'm looking forward to replicate it here
22:03 <HyperDrive> let me try that then
22:03 <HyperDrive> lol I dont know how
22:03 <epsy> if you type ep<tab> you're going to highlight me :)
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22:04 <HyperDrive> epsy: hello
22:04 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: *highlight* what client do you use ?
22:04 <epsy> HyperDrive, oh, hi, didn't see you! :)
22:04 <epsy> nsh22, [22:35] <epsy>: we'd have it already fixed if he started with his error message
22:05 <HyperDrive> joda_bot: im using chatzilla plugin for firefox
22:05 <nsh22> huh?
22:05  * joda_bot uses pidgin here 
22:05 <nsh22> epsy: you mean my bzr troubles?
22:05 <epsy> yes
22:05 <nsh22> kk
22:06 <HyperDrive> joda_bot: I dont know how safe chatzilla is but I couldnt find any bad reports so went ahead and tried it anyway
22:07 <nsh22> ok, i just opened bzr
22:07 <BabyBug> epsy, I now agree with you that bzrlib docs are crappy :)
22:07 <HyperDrive> can someone tell me what http://rafb.net/paste/ is ?
22:07 <joda_bot> luke-jr: why call the events born if everybody else call it spawning and spawn_time etc. ?
22:07 <epsy> BabyBug, phew :)
22:07 <epsy> nsh22, "opened bzr" ?
22:07 <nsh22> epsy: ok, i typed in bzr branch lp:yandere/0.2
22:07 <nsh22> bzr = bazzar
22:08 <HyperDrive> using this irc thing (first time) is really scaring me
22:08 <epsy> bazaar not bazzar kss
22:08 <HyperDrive> lol
22:08 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: rafb.net is a online clipboard used to exchange short upto longer copies of text (between people)
22:08 <epsy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pastebin
22:09 <joda_bot> I always get epsy's warning attention if I try to paste more than 4-5 lines in a row  :-)
22:09 <HyperDrive> joda_bot: thanks
22:09 <nsh22> and i got this error: 'bzr' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batcvh file
22:09 <HyperDrive> thanks
22:09 <epsy> nsh22, what did you open?!
22:09 <nsh22> bazaar!
22:09 <HyperDrive> is it good for pasting ascii art ?
22:09 <HyperDrive> hehe
22:09 <epsy> nsh22, from your home screen, decribe the process that leads you to this
22:09 <epsy> HyperDrive, lol
22:09 <nsh22> ok
22:10 <nsh22> start->programs->bazaar->start bzr in cmd shell
22:10 <epsy> right
22:11 <nsh22> then in the command prompt that pops up i type in bzr branch lp:yandere/0.2
22:11 <HyperDrive> guy do you think that commenting out the lines in arma that render the rim walls will have any side effects (apart from the obvious lack of rim walls XD)
22:11 <nsh22> and i get the error
22:11 <HyperDrive> guys*
22:11 <epsy> nsh22, perhaps it is nsh22.exe ?
22:11 <epsy> erm
22:11 <epsy> nsh22, perhaps it is bzr.exe ?
22:11 <epsy> HyperDrive, don't know
22:11 <nsh22> huh
22:11 <epsy> HyperDrive, best is to try for yourself
22:11 <HyperDrive> heh
22:12 <Vanhayes> whats an average amount for your tax return, anyone know?
22:12 <nsh22> HyperDrive: the wall might be invisible, not rendered on screeen but the computer might still think hey are there, you just cant see them
22:12 <HyperDrive> I was wondering if the rendering buffer (is there one ?) would fill up if the walls are not rendered
22:13 <nsh22> epsy: i tried to open bzr, a cmd promt came up and disappeard within 1/2 a second
22:13 <HyperDrive> nsh22 thats exactly what i want
22:13 <HyperDrive> walls there but not visible
22:13 <nsh22> then try it
22:13 <HyperDrive> im trying to squeze more fps out of my comp
22:14 <epsy> HyperDrive, frames are cleared in armagetron
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22:14 <epsy> unless you use ztrick
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22:14 <epsy> which drives you sick anyway since not every pixel is meant to be painted, unlike in quake for example
22:14 <HyperDrive> i dont use ztrick so that should be ok then
22:15 <epsy> it was removed from menu afaik
22:15 <nsh22> epsy: is that supposed to happen?
22:15 <epsy> nsh22, ?
22:15 <nsh22> <nsh22> epsy: i tried to open bzr, a cmd promt came up and disappeard within 1/2 a second
22:15 <epsy> "to open bzr" ?
22:15 <epsy> is bzr in your path?
22:15 <nsh22> well, bzr.exe
22:15 <nsh22> i think so
22:16 <nsh22> oh, wait
22:16 <nsh22> that was the problem :P
22:16 <epsy> what was the problem?
22:16 <nsh22> i have it in c instaead of c:\progeramfiles
22:16 <epsy> well then reinstall it
22:16 <nsh22> no, i just changed my path
22:17 <nsh22> ... and now i need pageant open...
22:17 <epsy> pageant?
22:17 <nsh22> puTTy pageant
22:18 <HyperDrive> omg I just looked at the latest entry in the pastebox and found this
22:18 <HyperDrive> <_b_><url>http://www.folkd.com/user/JoeyDorsey#1|Purchase viagra</url></_b_>
22:18 <HyperDrive> :-)), <_b_><url>http://ragga-jungle.com/index.php?showuser=7540#1|Buy Tramadol</url></_b_>
22:18 <HyperDrive> 712, <_b_><url>http://forum.openx.org/index.php?showuser=26746#1|cheapest Hydrocodone</url></_b_>
22:18 <HyperDrive> 79987, <_b_><url>http://www.lightstalkers.org/ChrisGatling#1|buy levitra online</url></_b_>
22:18 <HyperDrive> 059, <_b_><url>http://www.hairmaxforum.com/forum/member.php?u=16513#1|Adipex</url></_b_>
22:18 <HyperDrive> >:),
22:18 <HyperDrive> thats worse than ascii art for sure
22:18 <epsy> HyperDrive, pastebinpastebinpastebin
22:18 <HyperDrive> box bin meh
22:18 <nsh22> hurrah, im in
22:19 <epsy> if you want to tell about a paste, link it, duh
22:19 <epsy> can someone hl me?
22:19 <BabyBug> epsy
22:19 <nsh22> epsy!
22:19 <HyperDrive> sorry im very sleepy today, http://rafb.net/p/eydgPi67.html
22:19 <epsy> well nice, I've got no idea where it went
22:20 <nsh22> where what went?
22:20 <HyperDrive> I was working an a manual until 6am this morning so I must apologize for my sleepy noobness
22:22 <nsh22> luke-jr: where would i find the file that tells you what to do (i.e. when someone hasnt voted yet) in yandere
22:23 <epsy> bah, who knows
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22:23 <nsh22> wb
22:23 <HyperDrive> wb
22:24 <epsy> can someone HL ?
22:24 <nsh22> EPSY!
22:24  * epsy unloads hook
22:25 <nsh22> ??
22:25 <epsy> Information
22:25 <epsy>  
22:25 <epsy> You cannot make another search so soon after your last; please try again in a short while.
22:25 <epsy> that's one of the reasons I HATE phpbb
22:25 <HyperDrive> brb I have to install some drivers so I have to change to admin
22:25 <HyperDrive> later
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22:28 <nsh22> luke-jr: nvm i found it, but the word loli is hard coded...
22:28 <epsy> ok, can someone try now
22:28 <nsh22> EPSY!
22:30 <epsy> whoops, again please :<
22:35 <nsh22> epsy
22:36 <nsh22> luke-jr: i think i fixed it...
22:36 <epsy> seems to work
22:36 <epsy> one more please
22:36 <nsh22> epsy
22:36 <epsy> good :)
22:36 <nsh22> epsyepsyepsyepsyepsyepsyepsyepsyepsyepsyepsyepsyepsyepsyepsyepsyepsyepsyepsyepsyepsyepsyepsyepsyepsyepsyepsy
22:36 <nsh22> epsy
22:36 <epsy> that one won't hl :)
22:37 <epsy> well, now I have HL logs
22:37 <nsh22> luke-jr: can you make me a developer in yander so i can fix it?
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23:38 <guru3> Concord: you there?
23:38 <Concord> yes
23:38 <guru3> did you make the examples directory in bzr?
23:39 <Concord> that was lack
23:39 <guru3> ok
23:39 <guru3> i need tomove it -_-
23:39 <guru3> should be in html/
23:39 <guru3> nice work on the phpbb3
23:39 <Concord> thnx :)
23:39 <guru3> when i hover in my browser
23:39 <nsh22> whats going on now?
23:39 <guru3> the seperator between columns changes color
23:39 <guru3> i recommend that not happen
23:40 <Concord> yeah, I need to finish it up
23:40 <Concord> the path of forum->topic isn't displaying either
23:40 <guru3> and the avatars & stuff are on the right
23:40 <guru3> those need to be on the left
23:41 <guru3> and what's the 'T' at the bottom of every post? ><
23:41 <Concord> hmm?
23:41 <guru3> i think the post replace/new topic buttons can be made out a span instead of an image
23:42 <Concord> ok
23:43 <guru3> http://guru3.net/temp/t.png
23:43 <guru3> that t
23:43 <guru3> remains a mystery to me
23:44 <Concord> :P
23:44 <guru3> never seen it before
23:44 <Concord> I'll add that to the list ;)
23:45 <guru3> the buttons in the UCP are acting up too, since you're listing things :)
23:45 <Concord> ok
23:45 <luke-jr> joda_bot: dunno, isn't spawn specific to a certain type?
23:46 <epsy> BabyBug, ping
23:46 <BabyBug> epsy, pong (i'll be back in 10 minutes or so)
23:47 <epsy> BabyBug, anything new?
23:48 <joda_bot> luke-jr: no, even quake has "spawn" points :-)
23:48 <luke-jr> for one type: players ☺
23:48 <joda_bot> does not matter if it's a bot, wall or player being spawned
23:48 <joda_bot> I find it more precise than born
23:48 <luke-jr> whatever
23:49 <luke-jr> I won't complain if you change it
23:49 <epsy> a certain type?
23:50 <joda_bot> luke-jr: hmm ,ok
23:51 <joda_bot> epsy: I guess either object or game mode
23:52 <luke-jr> epsy: wehn I think spawn, I think just player objects
23:52 <luke-jr> not zones, walls, etc
23:54 <joda_bot> luke-jr: call it eUpdateGameObject eAddGameObject ?
23:55 <luke-jr> …
23:55 <luke-jr> what?
23:56 <nsh22> epsy: to make a comit, do i have to b ecd'ed into the folder that i am commiting?
23:56 <joda_bot> oh, eh, e=Eingine right ? ... what ever the prefix is for event then
23:57 <guru3> my back hurts :/
23:59 <nsh22> epsy: ping

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00:02 <joda_bot> nsh22: pong
00:02 <nsh22> your name is epsy?
00:03 <joda_bot> you hl me :D
00:03 <joda_bot> I'm the auto away bot for epsy :-)
00:03 <nsh22> how?
00:03 <nsh22> so, what your epsy or no?
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00:04 <joda_bot> why do you think i might be an epsy ?
00:04  * joda_bot turns into eliza mode
00:04 <nsh22> maybe you can help me
00:04 <nsh22> to make a comit, do i have to b ecd'ed into the folder that i am commiting?
00:05 <nsh22> be cd'ed*
00:05 <nsh22> in bazaar
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00:05 <joda_bot> I guess it might be a wise idea, but I' no expert on bazar ... just used it once, and forgot about it ?
00:05 <joda_bot> what do you want to do ?
00:05 <joda_bot> send a merge-proposal or commit ?
00:05 <nsh22> commit something to a branch
00:06 <nsh22> i think
00:06 <joda_bot> so you own that branch ?
00:06 <nsh22> no
00:06 <joda_bot> but you are allowed to write into it ?
00:06 <Pathetique> Would anyone know how to generate an SSH key for bzr on a mac?
00:07 <Pathetique> aktuly, scratch that. -.-
00:07 <Pathetique> <-- idiot
00:07 <nsh22> i just checked and luke-jr hasnt approved eme to be on the team...
00:07 <joda_bot> unlikely you can commit then
00:08 <nsh22> no i cant right now, but i would like to know how
00:08 <joda_bot> nsh22: http://osdir.com/ml/python.storm/2008-06/msg00012.html
00:08 <nsh22> cuz when i tried commiting something out of my bazaars main folder, it said bzr wasnt a recognized command
00:08 <joda_bot> perhaps that help you do submit it ?
00:08 <nsh22> yeah, its for a bugfix
00:10 <joda_bot> http://doc.bazaar-vcs.org/bzr.dev/en/mini-tutorial/index.html#merging-your-work-into-the-parent-branch
00:10 <joda_bot> ok, I'm out ... perhaps ct|kyle can help you out
00:10 <joda_bot> *eg*
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00:11 <Pathetique> lawlawlawl
00:19 <Pathetique> lol@ "checking CXXFLAGS for gcc -nobodyreadsconfigureoutputanyway... -nobodyreadsconfigureoutputanyway"
00:23 <ct|kyle> help with what?
00:24 <Pathetique> hmm?
00:24 <ct|kyle>  joda_bot: ok, I'm out ... perhaps ct|kyle can help you out
00:24 <Pathetique> oh, he was referring to nsh22
00:25 <nsh22> yeah, im havoing trouble with bazaar
00:25 <ct|kyle> on what?
00:26 <Pathetique> being a noob
00:26 <nsh22> ... yeah hes right
00:26 <nsh22> i didnt knoiw how to commit, but i think i got it now
00:28 <Pathetique> lolololol
00:28 <Pathetique> <--hyper
00:32 <Pathetique> bah, fuck configure.
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00:41 <cpayan> Damn I didn't notice until i checked my @replies on twitter today that you guys had rolled on with the ideas for the arma site
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00:41 <cpayan> catching up now
00:41 <HyperDrive> hello again
00:41 <Concord> lol cpayan
00:42 <cpayan> Yea thanks Concord  :D
00:43 <HyperDrive> so I added render_rimwall to arma to enable/disable rim wall rendering but it only gives about 10% fps boost with the rim walls disabled
00:43 <HyperDrive> not as much as expected :(
00:43 <HyperDrive> plus its annoying crashing into the invisible black rim walls XD
00:43 <HyperDrive> have you guys got any ideas how to boost the fps ?
00:46 <PinkTomato> HyperDrive: what is your original FPS?
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01:03 <epsy> [01:03] <joda_bot> oh, eh, e=Eingine right ? ... what ever the prefix is for event then
01:03 <epsy> whatte?
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01:05 <nsh22> epsy: he left
01:06 <epsy> ok, well, good night
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01:17 <HyperDrive_> Ive found an interesting little javascript irc file that can be embedded into a web page but it doesnt have a demonstration html page to make it work, the file is on source forge and the main site is here http://www.levelthreesolutions.com/jisirc/ do any of you have a spare moment to take a look ? I would like to add this to my website if possible
01:20 <cpayan> guru3, do you use any software to manage the "main" site? You use phpbb for the forum and what for the wiki?
01:20 <guru3> the wiki is mediawiki
01:20 <guru3> and mainsite is just html
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01:26 <cpayan> I wanted to run textpattern by you as a means to manage the main site/blog (if there'll be one)
01:26 <cpayan> It's dead simple, which makes it extremely customizable. Have you ever used it?
01:27 <guru3> no
01:27 <guru3> in general i don't like CMSs
01:28 <cpayan> Any reason why?
01:28 <guru3> always seem to be about 800 features i never use
01:28 <guru3> all that clutter for what's at heart really just static html
01:28 <cpayan> That's what I like about Textpattern. It sits somewhere between a blog and a cms, and is generally just an easier way to update info
01:29 <cpayan> If you get a chance, take a look at textpattern, it's what I use to manage my own site. It's a pretty elegant tool, I think.
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01:30 <guru3> my first impression is of a stripped down wordpress
01:30 <cpayan> Yes well, the point of the CMS isn't code generation, it's the ability to update without having to go into the code every time. Taking down some friction in the updating process
01:31 <cpayan> It's a pretty different system from Wordpress. Wordpress is centralized around the blog entirely. But yea man, poke around with it.
01:31 <guru3> right now about as much friction as there is is copying and pasting between the index file and the news archive file
01:32 <cpayan> Well, if a blog comes around, I'm assuming you wouldn't mind something like Textpattern or Wordpress being used there?
01:33 <cpayan> In said blog, news would probably be posted, so why do a good job twice. We can use textpattern (which is more flexible as to creating mostly static pages) to take news to the main page, while having news and whatever else in the blog
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01:34 <cpayan> thanks for the approval, btw
01:34 <guru3> it's hard to say exactly what would be in a blog
01:34 <guru3> np
01:34 <guru3> i would try and keep news out of it
01:34 <guru3> reserving the blog for interesting monologs about weird hacks and such
01:35 <BabyBug> Hellooooo \o
01:35 <guru3> and news being shit like 0.2.8.3_beta9000 is out
01:35  * BabyBug gives guru3 a back rub
01:36 <guru3> and i'm off to bed now as i have to get up early tomorrow for lectures
01:36 <cpayan> Well if it's a general arma blog, personally, i imagined it would mostly be about people in the community, the servers, game modes, arma 101, and news would be entirely appropriate.
01:36 <guru3> good night everyone
01:36 <cpayan> all right
01:36 <cpayan> night
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01:38 <HyperDrive_> cu
01:38 <HyperDrive_> sorry i was afk
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01:52 <HyperDrive_> why does my name have an _ at the end ?
01:58 <BabyBug> because you joined with a _ at the end of your name
01:59 <BabyBug> :)
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01:59 <HyperDrive> oops
01:59 -!- HyperDrive is now known as BabyBug
01:59 <BabyBug> /nick HyperDrive
01:59 <BabyBug> There, type that
01:59 <BabyBug> lol
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02:07 <HyperDrive> oO thanks
02:07 <BabyBug> :)
02:07 <HyperDrive> why did it have the _ ??
02:08 <BabyBug> *shrugs*
02:08 <HyperDrive> and what is user mode -e ?
02:08 <HyperDrive> it just changed me
02:08 <noob13> means you're identified i think
02:08 <noob13> hi there!
02:08 <BabyBug> that's something to do with the server. You can hapilly ignore that
02:08 <BabyBug> happily*
02:08 <HyperDrive> lol babybug
02:08 <BabyBug> ^^
02:08 <HyperDrive> i must read the manual again :(
02:08 <BabyBug> I like to keep things simple :P
02:09 <HyperDrive> yeah i guessed that :P
02:09 <noob13> the underscore has something to do with reconnecting too fast and server getting confused.
02:09 <noob13> not sure
02:09 <noob13> .tea
02:09 <tronner> noob13: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
02:09 <noob13> .ctos
02:09 <tronner> noob13: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo: Players (0/12):
02:14 <HyperDrive> i got an answer from chatzilla help they say "the _ gets added if the original nickname is already on the same server"
02:19 <noob13> indeed, happens when u reconnect quickly too, as the server still thinks the original nick is taken..
02:20 <HyperDrive> thanks
02:21 <HyperDrive> my first day using irc, ive never used any online chat except armagetron
02:21 <HyperDrive> (in game chat)
02:22 <noob13> your life just got a little more sad ;)
02:23 <HyperDrive> very true
02:23 <Lucifer> yay, I have a kickstand again!  ;)
02:23  * Lucifer just welded his kickstand bracket back onto his bike.
02:23 <HyperDrive> nice
02:23 <HyperDrive> are you a good welder ?
02:23 <HyperDrive> what am I asking, of course you are
02:23 <Lucifer> I'm a good torch welder, adequate mig welder, but it's been 7-8 years since I've done any welding at all
02:24 <Lucifer> I had to use a mig welder for this, not just because it was what's available, but because a torch would heat up too much metal and warp the rear fork assembly
02:24 <Lucifer> borrowed a welder from a neighbor's friend, heh ;)
02:25 <Lucifer> now I'm going to go stand and look at my bike, think about riding it
02:26 <HyperDrive> well done Lucifer
02:27 <noob13> i'd like to ride my bike too.. unfortunately the climate doesn't suit it quite yet..
02:27 <noob13> damn slippery roads still
02:28 <HyperDrive> you need flaming tires
02:28 <HyperDrive> XD
02:28 <noob13> good idea!
02:29 <noob13> :P
02:29 <noob13> or just get some pin wheels, if thats what they're called
02:30 <noob13> too lazy, got myself a bus ticket instead
02:30 <HyperDrive> nah flaming wheels look better and leave a trail behind the bike :D
02:31 <noob13> hehe, i'd fear for my pants catching fire..
02:32 <noob13> now you're gonna suggest wearing pants made of aluminium foil, yeh? :P
02:33 <noob13> bah, i need sleep..
02:33 <HyperDrive> hehe
02:33 <noob13> i was meant to stay awake and work on my java assignment all night
02:33  * cpayan hates Firefox restarts
02:34 <noob13> shit happens, procrastination wins, tiredness prevails
02:34 <noob13> .gn
02:34 <cpayan> heh
02:36 <HyperDrive> why did your firefox restart ?
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03:01 <cpayan> HyperDrive, you've never had to restart firefox eventually?
03:01 <cpayan> I wind up doing it every few hours or so
03:03 <cpayan> just because it slows down considerably
03:03 <HyperDrive> maybe twice per year ?
03:03 <HyperDrive> ive never had that problem of slowing down
03:05 <cpayan> lucky you, must have a decent computer
03:06 <cpayan> I have a 5 or so year old laptop
03:07 <HyperDrive> i have a slightly crappy celeron 1.73ghz
03:07 <HyperDrive> i dont know how old it is XD
03:09 <ct|kyle> cpayan: does it take up all/half the CPU?
03:10 <cpayan> no it just eats up memory, especially when I use a lot of flash applications
03:10 <cpayan> I haven't done a lot of research into it
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03:10 <ct|kyle> what version are you running
03:10 <cpayan> I just find the simplest solution is to restart it. It's not that serious, really.
03:10 <cpayan> 3.0.6
03:11 <ct|kyle> cpayan: one of my professors is having a similar problem on his old machine
03:11 <ct|kyle> that's why I wondered
03:12 <cpayan> It's a pretty common problem
03:12 <cpayan> I didn't realize other people had it until I read about it repeatedly on Lifehacker
03:12 <HyperDrive> firefox is currently using 9% of my cpu and I have a shockwave flash running in one window, a javascript 3d chess in another, 2 irc chat clients and other misc pages
03:12 <cpayan> I'm not too worried about it. Firefox just eats up memory, apparently.
03:13 <cpayan> HyperDrive, what's the chess site?
03:13 <HyperDrive> http://www.nihilogic.dk/labs/chess/   its fantastic all in javascript !
03:13 <HyperDrive> im simply amazed
03:14 <ct|kyle> try the 3.1 beta 3 firefox
03:14 <HyperDrive> is it good ? im using 3.06
03:15 <ct|kyle> it will be 3.5 when they release it
03:15 <cpayan> that is pretty cool. Canvas is the wave of the future. Give it a few years and we'll have a standard replacement for eye-candy, hopefully.
03:15 <cpayan> for flash for eye-candy *
03:15 <ct|kyle> #google Canvas
03:16 <ct|kyle> .google search Canvas
03:16 <tronner> ct|kyle: ShopStyle search: canvas totes: <http://www.shopstyle.com/browse?fts=canvas+totes>; ShopStyle search: canvas bag: <http://www.shopstyle.com/browse?fts=canvas+bag>; TeacherTube Search - Canvas: <http://www.teachertube.com/search_result.php?search_id=Canvas>
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03:16 <cpayan> The fellows that run Ajaxian seemed pretty impressed by the possibilities. Especially with faster and faster Javascript languages.
03:16 <cpayan> err
03:16 <cpayan> engines
03:16 <cpayan> i can't seem to get my thoughts straightened.
03:17 <ct|kyle> where is a link about it
03:17 <cpayan> err
03:17 <ct|kyle> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canvas_%28HTML_element%29
03:17 <ct|kyle> that?
03:17 <cpayan> yea
03:18 <ct|kyle> silverlight should die soon
03:18 <HyperDrive> i was very impressed :D
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03:18 <cpayan> Personally, I like the idea behind Silverlight more than Flash.
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03:19 <cpayan> Of all things, Silverlight is more "open." You don't need to go out and buy a few hundred dollars of software just to create a Silverlight application
03:19 <ct|kyle> so open it does not work on linux
03:20 <cpayan> Microsoft has been working with Novell (is it novell? not sure) on Moonlight, a linux port of Silverlight
03:20 <cpayan> You can run Silverlight 1.0 apps, though not 2.0 yet.
03:21 <ct|kyle> ya I know, but moonlight apps block out silverlight a lot of the time
03:21 <cpayan> Since most of them are 2.0 now
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03:21 <HyperDrive> can one of you smart programmers out there port amiga os4 to my amiga 500 ?
03:21 <ct|kyle> and I have not found tools to build them
03:22 <Lucifer> cpayan: firefox leaks memory
03:22 <cpayan> But hey. There are people working on it. Microsoft is new to that little game, it took Adobe a long time to figure that they should release up-to-date Flash versions too.
03:22 <Lucifer> it always has, and it looks like it always will
03:22 <Lucifer> it does better now than it used to, now it takes about a week before it consumes most of my swap space
03:22 <Lucifer> it used to do it every couple of days
03:22 <Lucifer> does it more when I use lots of javascript apps, like gmail, so I suspect the leak is in the javascript engine
03:23 <cpayan> Yep. I'm not too worried about it. I used to use Opera, when I was on Windows, but now Opera and Flash don't play well together in my Ubuntu installation, and I don't feel like dealing with the aggravation when I have a perfectly capable browser in Firefox.
03:23 <Lucifer> but I haven't gone deep enough into it to figure it out
03:23 <cpayan> They're working on a new JS engine, so maybe that'll shore it up, if the leak is there.
03:24 <compguygene> that was one of the main stated reasons for the new js engine..also supposed to be blazing fast performance compared to any other current js engine
03:24 <ct|kyle> it also leaks a lot on flash
03:25 <ct|kyle> actually it isent doing too bas in my 3.2 alpha version
03:25 <ct|kyle> bad*
03:25 <cpayan> Anyway ct|kyle, I'd rather hope that there can be some standard non-proprietary method of achieving the same effects as Flash/Silverlight and they can be relegated to other things. Silverlight, I understand, is amazing for rich apps that integrate with other MS stuff using ASP.
03:26 <cpayan> Yea, apparently everyone is working on new blazing JS engines. Safari's new beta already has one there, Opera is working on one...
03:26 <cpayan> I think the IE team is still figuring out CSS
03:27 <ct|kyle> but the standard should not be a product of 2 evils
03:28 <cpayan> heh
03:28 <ct|kyle> ya my firefox goes back to normal ram after I end flash.com
03:28 <cpayan> Canvas is hardly that, and it's still iffy as to whether it can become as rich as Flash or Silverlight
03:28 <cpayan> likely not
03:28 <luke-jr> Flash and Silverlight suck
03:29 <ct|kyle> I like flash though I hate the fact that I can't create anymore
03:29 <cpayan> Only works for 2d rendering, though people are figuring out ways to make 3d stuff like the chess game
03:29 <cpayan> ?can't create anymore?
03:30 <ct|kyle> no program to create flash animations on linux (that I have found anyway)
03:30 <cpayan> ah yea
03:30 <luke-jr> uh
03:31 <luke-jr> 3D canvas is already working AFAIK
03:31 <HyperDrive> i gtg
03:31 <HyperDrive> later all
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03:31 <cpayan> bloody slowly, yea, and it's done by breaking things up, using 2d elements. It's not as sophisticated as Flash
03:32 <luke-jr> Flash isn't 3D anyhow
03:32 <luke-jr> and Flash is proprietary
03:32 <luke-jr> so automatic fail
03:32 <cpayan> eye-roll
03:32 <BabyBug> your life is an automatic fail
03:32 <luke-jr> and how is OpenGL slow?
03:33 <cpayan> Flash ain't bad, but yea, the proprietary programs for building flash applications is the big problem to me.
03:33 <cpayan> Canvas. The HTML element.
03:33 <luke-jr> Flash itself is proprietary
03:33 <cpayan> It doesn't matter much, to me, or the rest of the world, if it's proprietary. My problem is that I haven't got hundreds to throw around just to buy a tool to be able to make a flash app.
03:33 <luke-jr> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7171
03:34 <luke-jr> Canvas. The HTML element.
03:34 <luke-jr> Now with OpenGL ES.
03:34 <cpayan> looks pretty sketchy so far, but that's cool
03:34 <cpayan> i didn't know
03:35 <cpayan> Most of the 3d canvas news I've heard about revolve around tech that everyone has on their computers in some form, Javascript
03:35 <luke-jr> I think Opera includes support too
03:35 <cpayan> Not everyone has OpenGL installed.
03:36 <luke-jr> nonsense
03:36 <cpayan> after all
03:36 <luke-jr> all desktop OS include OpenGL
03:36 <ct|kyle> not windows 7  (which I can crash with a floppy)
03:38 <cpayan> Heh, you're right. I assumed.
03:38 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: Windows doesn't count as anything but crap
03:38  * compguygene uses windows, not by his choice!
03:39 <luke-jr> compguygene: then why are you bragging it? :p
03:39 <ct|kyle> then why don't you force whoever is making you use it to not make you use it :P
03:39 <compguygene> not bragging, acknowelging the validity of your viewpoint.
03:39 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: wiki.answers.com says Windows 7 has OpenGL support
03:40 <ct|kyle> crappy then
03:40 <cpayan> ct|kyle, if i were trying to run an office environment and I had everything set up with one operating system, I wouldn't let someone change to soething completely different
03:40 <compguygene> I tried to force my family to use linux...and it worked better for most things.
03:40 <ct|kyle> tron looks like crap on it
03:40 <cpayan> well damn it, send it back to the drawing board
03:40 <cpayan> and keep it there until armagetron looks good!
03:40 <cpayan> :)
03:41 <ct|kyle> and maybe they were in my updates I got the other day
03:42 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: I thought you finally dropped that Windoze crud
03:42 <compguygene> nobody in my family liked either the dual boot solution or the "virtualize xp" solution for the few stupid bits of software they use that require windows...except my son...and my laptop died, which was all linux
03:43 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: I wanted to see if 7 fixed anything, it did not
03:43 <compguygene> this is a good example of users who want stuff that "just works"
03:43 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: I've only booted to it 2 or 3 times since december
03:43 <luke-jr> compguygene: WINE?
03:44 <compguygene> of course, i setup wine
03:44 <BabyBug> Firefox runs better under wine than it does native :(
03:44 <luke-jr> LOL
03:44 <cpayan> really?
03:44 <BabyBug> yup
03:44 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: that was tested using Fedora
03:44 <luke-jr> that's cuz Firefox is primarily a Windoze app
03:44 <cpayan> awesome
03:44 <ct|kyle> and everyone knows fedora is a pig
03:44  * luke-jr is not surprised in the least
03:44 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, the performance change appears obvious in ubuntu aswell
03:45 <compguygene> windoze version of arma works better on wine...but webkinz would not work for my daughter...and some of the sites my wife uses absolutly require internet explorer
03:45 <ct|kyle> it ran better in wine than xp though right?
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03:46 <compguygene> oh yeah....
03:46 <compguygene> personally, the only app i ever booted windoze for was google sketchup
03:46  * BabyBug wishes google chrome would hurry up
03:46 <compguygene> i do some part-time work that requires a 3-d modeler
03:46 <luke-jr> compguygene: MSIE runs fine in WINE
03:47 <luke-jr> Chrome is mere hype
03:47 <ct|kyle> compguygene: works in wine
03:47 <BabyBug> luke-jr, it can't be worse than firefox :)
03:47 <Pathetique> luke-jr: MSIE is shit.
03:47 <luke-jr> BabyBug: not sure on that
03:47 <compguygene> ie7 didn't at the time
03:47 <luke-jr> Pathetique: no crap
03:47 <luke-jr> compguygene: IE7 has worked for a few years now
03:47 <ct|kyle> compguygene: http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2007/12/google-sketchup-6-on-linux-and-freebsd.html
03:47 <Pathetique> I've had shits that performed better than IE.
03:47 <Pathetique> lol
03:47 <BabyBug> luke-jr, the alpha build runs better than firefox :P
03:48 <compguygene> well ty for the info...i am gonna get this family off windoze yet!
03:48 <luke-jr> compguygene: could always just forbid Windows use ☺
03:49 <compguygene> not that simple when it's my wife's computer, and a computer the kids paid for with their own money!
03:49 <ct|kyle> looking at my firefox ram usage it seams to spike up when a tab with flash / servelet is opened, then back down about 305 or so. then goes back to 288 eventually
03:49 <luke-jr> compguygene: you're the boss!
03:49 <luke-jr> compguygene: assert some authority!
03:49 <cpayan> Pathetique, your crap goes online?
03:49 <compguygene> but the kids have already agreed to let me dualboot
03:49 <compguygene> lol
03:49 <compguygene> i prefer a happy marriage ty very much!
03:50 <compguygene> I'll sneak it up on her...
03:50 <cpayan> lol
03:50 <luke-jr> what? she doesn't respect your authority?
03:50 <BabyBug> ahem!
03:50 <compguygene> no, she does, however
03:50 <Lucifer> heh
03:50 <cpayan> luke-jr, hush, it's not your life, after all
03:50 <BabyBug> luke-jr, why the fuck does a guy have more authority than a woman?
03:50 <compguygene> i prefer not to fight over a stupid os
03:50 <Lucifer> no shit, some of us don't *want* authority just because we have a penis
03:51 <Pathetique> Well said, Lucifer.
03:51 <luke-jr> BabyBug: because the woman brought us sin? I dunno ☺
03:51 <compguygene> i prefer to save that kind of fight for something of real life importance
03:51 <cpayan> compguygene, only luke-jr would think it's worth it to have a row over something so relatively trivial
03:51 <Pathetique> LOL@Nothing Fights.
03:51 <Lucifer> luke-jr: she didn't "bring us sin", she ate from the TREE OF KNOWLEDGE!
03:51 <BabyBug> luke-jr, the correct answer is "YOU DON'T!"
03:51 <luke-jr> cpayan: meh, my wife fully supports Linux-only policy
03:51 <Lucifer> knowledge is beautiful
03:51 <Lucifer> the real question is, why didn't Adam think of it?
03:51 <Lucifer> oh yeah, he was looking at the naked lady
03:51 <Pathetique> LOL
03:52 <cpayan> good for you, luke-jr. See how things are different from one situation to the next?
03:52 <Pathetique> Nothing fights are the best, gene.
03:52 <Lucifer> my ex supported linux-only policy
03:52 <cpayan> nothing makeup sex?
03:52 <compguygene> anyways, i appreciate the varied viewpoints
03:52 <Pathetique> lol
03:52 <Lucifer> actually, she didn't know how to do anything useful with a computer, so she needed me to maintain the things, and I said I wouldn't maintain a windows computer
03:52 <Pathetique> I pulled an ivantis earlier, I think.
03:53 <Lucifer> Pathetique: you said lots of really dumb things?
03:53 <Pathetique> LOLno
03:53 <Pathetique> I may have gotten my spawn time config include to run.
03:53 <Pathetique> When a server sets gamestate to GS_PLAY, spawnscript.cfg gets included.
03:53 <luke-jr> my wife knew how to use her Mac
03:53 <compguygene> keep in mind, i spent about 15 years maintaining dos/windoze computers and novell networks
03:53 <luke-jr> but I maintain the Gentoo that replaced it
03:53 <Pathetique> Its for those of us who aren't 1337 enough to do CT-style scripting.
03:54 <luke-jr> Pathetique: it's really simple with my hosting ☺
03:54 <Lucifer> compguygene: amazing your brain still works at all, then
03:54 <Pathetique> luke-jr: Somehow I manage to fuck it up.
03:54 <Pathetique> lol
03:54 <luke-jr> Pathetique: you haven't used my hosting afaik
03:54 <Pathetique> with my own vps, no.
03:54 <ct|kyle> Pathetique: what are you trying to do
03:54 <luke-jr> exactly
03:54 <BabyBug> Lucifer, How many tasks do you have left?
03:54 <compguygene> note, i quit working in the industry years ago
03:55 <Lucifer> BabyBug: 0, I finished
03:55 <Pathetique> Run a frakking script.
03:55 <ct|kyle> Pathetique: most likely you want to do it on GAME_TIME (some integer)
03:55 <Pathetique> I did that.
03:55 <Lucifer> now I'm just waiting for results
03:55 <BabyBug> Lucifer, so what does that mean now?
03:55 <BabyBug> oh
03:55 <Pathetique> Its getting PHP to talk to the server that I'm having trouble with.
03:55 <luke-jr> Pathetique: that's automatic w/ my hosting
03:55 <luke-jr> Pathetique: you just readline and echo
03:55 <Pathetique> I suppose not half-assing the PHP would help...but still..
03:55 <ct|kyle> script | Srever
03:56 <luke-jr> >_<
03:56 <Pathetique> LAWL.
03:56 <compguygene> well gnite all
03:56 <Lucifer> BabyBug: they'll give me my results sometime after the due date, which is 9am on Tuesday
03:56 <Pathetique> cu gene
03:56 <Lucifer> so I won't know until then
03:56 <BabyBug> oh ok :(
03:56 <BabyBug> that's ages!!
03:56 <compguygene> np...ty for the info
03:56 <Lucifer> however, IF I get that job, I've got a guy who can put me up for a little while, in exchange for help packing
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03:56 <Lucifer> yes, it is ages :(
03:56 <akira_arma> Lucifer: do you have a zthreadlib.a for me? :)
03:57 <Lucifer> akira_arma: noooo.........?  Was I supposed to compile one?
03:57 <Pathetique> google it
03:57 <Pathetique> googleftw
03:57 <luke-jr> uh
03:57 <akira_arma> winlibs is missing one :(
03:57 <luke-jr> isn't .a non-Windows?
03:57 <Pathetique> oh, well, then akira should port it.
03:57 <Lucifer> BabyBug: so, if I find out on Tuesday that I have a job, *and* I can squeeze in about 80 hours of work before the end of the month, I'll be able to move into my own place in mid-April
03:57 <Pathetique> :)
03:57 <akira_arma> well my compiler gives me an error
03:57 <Pathetique> Then tell it to STFU and work. :D
03:57 <Lucifer> mingw uses .a also, for static libraries, iirc
03:58 <akira_arma> and yes i tried to google but i gave up :(
03:58 <BabyBug> Lucifer, yay \o/ great news! and it'll mean no more watching out for coppers ;)
03:58 <akira_arma> do ask me to port something.. I am a total newb in this field
03:58 <Pathetique> lolmetoo
03:58 <Lucifer> heh, yeah :)
03:58 <Pathetique> I wrote C++ without knowing how to actually write it.
03:58 <luke-jr> akira_arma: just don't use zthread then
03:58 <luke-jr> akira_arma: it's optional
03:58 <Lucifer> Pathetique: luke-jr does that all the time
03:58 <Pathetique> Zthread isn't essential.
03:59 <Pathetique> Its just a convenience.
03:59 <akira_arma> luke-jr I have no idea how not to
03:59 <luke-jr> Lucifer: nah, I've bothered to learn C++ a bit
03:59 <akira_arma> i just followed to steps for buidling on windows
03:59 <luke-jr> I used to do that ;)
03:59 <akira_arma> and already fixed some errors
03:59 <Lucifer> akira_arma: it's a define, but I don't remember which define it is
03:59 <Pathetique> akira, did you have to do a ./configure or something like that?
03:59 <Pathetique> wait
03:59 <Lucifer> Pathetique: windows build doesn't work that way
03:59 <Pathetique> winblows doesn't have that.
03:59 <Pathetique> Lucifer: winblows*
03:59 <akira_arma> i use codeblocks..
04:00 <Pathetique> :D
04:00 <Lucifer> well, it *can* work that way, ours just doesn't
04:00 <BabyBug> Can you build a windows version using wine?
04:00 <Lucifer> it would be awesome if the autohell build system works on windows too
04:00 <Lucifer> BabyBug: yes
04:00 <Pathetique> unix-based OSs ftw
04:00 <BabyBug> oh...Then why are there like...0 people who compile it for windows?
04:00 <ct|kyle> KDE > gnome right BabyBug :)
04:00 <BabyBug> package*
04:00 <akira_arma> yea :(
04:00 <Pathetique> Because windows is gay.
04:01 <luke-jr> Lucifer: autoconf is supposed to work w/ MSYS, no?
04:01 <Lucifer> luke-jr: yes
04:01 <Pathetique> akira_arma: Do yourself a favor and download ubuntu.
04:01 <Lucifer> it's theoretically easy to get our build system working that way, but we'll probably need some more defines in a few places
04:02 <ct|kyle> kubuntu*
04:02 <luke-jr> we *should* be able to simple ./configure --host=mingw32 :/
04:02 <Pathetique> meh
04:02 <Lucifer> Pathetique: that would be a real step he could take towards actually freedom rather than letting the powers-that-be he's always whining about run his computer for him
04:02 <luke-jr> but I know from experience that does NOT work
04:02 <Pathetique> oic
04:02 <Pathetique> dualboot it then.
04:02 <Pathetique> IF the powers that be don't like it
04:02 <Pathetique> do it anyways.
04:02 <Pathetique> LOL
04:02 <ct|kyle> Pathetique: how are you trying to run this script
04:03 <Pathetique> ct|kyle: using the sample shell script provided on the wiki.
04:03 <Lucifer> luke-jr: it *should* work, if you have all the dependencies compiled
04:03  * Lucifer starts getting tempted again to try to cross-compile arma
04:03 <akira_arma> I have a linux
04:03 <ct|kyle> Pathetique: the one on Ct's
04:03 <Pathetique> yesm.
04:03 <BabyBug> Lucifer, give in to the temptation!
04:03 <akira_arma> I just use windows often
04:03 <luke-jr> Lucifer: yeah, *should*, but doesn't
04:03 <ct|kyle> scropt must not be working then
04:03 <akira_arma> Fedora I think
04:03 <ct|kyle> script*
04:04 <Lucifer> oh no, the temptation to make an age of sail combat simulator is greater!
04:04 <BabyBug> Lucifer, no! :@
04:04 <Pathetique> LOL
04:04 <BabyBug> you haven't done arma work in agessssssss (buildbot doesn't count)
04:05 <Pathetique> kyle, lemme pastebin my shell script
04:06 <ct|kyle> Pathetique: ok, but it probably is your PHP script
04:06 <Pathetique> I
04:06 <Pathetique> I'll do that too
04:06 <Lucifer> the problem with working on a new game is really very simple
04:07 <Lucifer> do I just go with SDL, or do I want to use Qt?
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04:07 <Pathetique> Shell script: http://rafb.net/p/4tMkYR99.html
04:07 <BabyBug> neither, you work on the old game
04:07 <Lucifer> but, an age of sail combat simulator would fucking rock!
04:07 <Pathetique> I was first trying to just get the sample you guys put up with the random DZs, except every second
04:07 <BabyBug> it would not!
04:07 <Lucifer> throw in some pirate story line, and there you go
04:07 <BabyBug> wtf is age of sail?
04:08 <Pathetique> I had it working for five minutes or so, but then I decided to try and make my own script
04:08 <Lucifer> sailing ships, with cannons and stuff
04:08 <Pathetique> and fuct it up.
04:08 <BabyBug> no that's a fail
04:08 <Lucifer> is *not*
04:08 <BabyBug> is *so*
04:08 <luke-jr> Pathetique: is that a word?
04:08 <Lucifer> there's a real need for an open source pirate game
04:08 <Pathetique> BabyBug: Age of _Fail_
04:08 <Lucifer> You guys suck, I want a new team.
04:08 <Pathetique> LOL
04:08 <Pathetique> luke-jr: Yarly. It is a real word.
04:08 <BabyBug> well tough titties, you stuck with us!
04:08 <ct|kyle> Pathetique: then it is probably the PHP
04:08 <BabyBug> you're*
04:09 <Pathetique> Its how I get away with saying fucked without saying "fucked"
04:09 <Pathetique> on Ww Servers
04:09 <ct|kyle> I think we need to make a new channel  #BabyBugsanasshat
04:09 <sinewav> :o
04:10 <Pathetique> As you can see I commented out my script in an attempt to get the sample one working again without losing my work.
04:10 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: NO
04:11 <luke-jr> I HAVE A MONOPOLY ON @$$HAT CHANNELS
04:11 <Lucifer> oh shit, that reminds me
04:11 <Pathetique> LOL
04:11  * Lucifer was going to try to register an armagetronad group with freenode
04:11 <sinewav> can I be in it?
04:11 <Lucifer> just another one of those things BabyBug doesn't consider "working on arma"
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04:12 <Pathetique> For the interactive part of the spawn_zone command, can true be written as 1?
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04:12 <Pathetique> wb
04:13 <luke-jr> Lucifer: don't forget the channels currently under my name
04:13 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, we don't need an asshat channel thank you very much
04:14 <BabyBug> and Lucifer, that would be considered arma work
04:14 <luke-jr> Lucifer: or just register #Arma*
04:14 <luke-jr> I think you need #AFL too mayeb
04:14 <Pathetique> YAY I BRANCHED
04:15 <Lucifer> no, registering a group will give us, ummm, what's the word
04:15 <Pathetique> Authoritah, Lucifer?
04:15 <Lucifer> you know, when someone is, say, epsy@unaffiliated/epsy
04:15 <BabyBug> a hostmask?
04:15 <Lucifer> I'll be able to be lucifer@armagetronad/developer
04:15 <Lucifer> etc
04:15 <Pathetique> How to obtain hostmask?
04:16 <Lucifer> luke-jr: I'll probably want, when our group is approved, to start #armagetronad to replace this one and ask you to redirect this to that
04:16 <luke-jr> Lucifer: just beware, they take years to get back to you
04:16 <Lucifer> yeah, there's a big warning on the page, but it's the only way to get in right now
04:16 <luke-jr> Lucifer: FreeNode doesn't do permanent redirectors
04:16 <Lucifer> but this isn't the same as registering a channel, it's different
04:17 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: but we can't let luke-jr keep this monopoly going
04:17 <luke-jr> I know
04:17 <luke-jr> FreeNode staff approached me about it for my other channels
04:17 <Lucifer> BabyBug: maybe we should start #ct|kyle-isanasshat
04:17 <BabyBug> Lucifer, maybe we should
04:17 <Lucifer> after all, monopolies are bad
04:17 <BabyBug> defiantly
04:17 <ct|kyle> I knew that was going to come
04:17 <Lucifer> the first four letters of monopoly are the same as the first four letters of monotheism, so obviously it's bad
04:18 <luke-jr> Lucifer: what do you think of #0,0 ?
04:18 <Pathetique> we should prolly make #armabotisanasshat, too.
04:18 <Pathetique> btw luke-jr, #0 aktuly exists.
04:18 <BabyBug> where is armabot? :(
04:18 <BabyBug> I'm missing kicking people
04:18 <luke-jr> BabyBug: dead
04:18 <Pathetique> armabot had the runs.
04:18 <Pathetique> And then the flu.
04:18 <Lucifer> wrtlprnft: hey, what happened to armabot, anyway?
04:18 <ct|kyle> she got it from lizmatic
04:19 <Pathetique> LOL@ http://www.isitchristmas.com
04:19 <BabyBug> wrtlprnft hasn't spoke in days
04:19 <ct|kyle> .fetch http://www.isitchristmas.com
04:19 <tronner> ct|kyle: '\n\n<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">\n<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">\n<head>\n  <title>Is it Christmas?</title>\n  <link rel="alternate" title="Is It Christmas?" href="rss.xml" type="application/rss+xml" />\n  <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />\n  <script (3 more messages)
04:19 <Pathetique> Yeah, he never even replied to my bugreport about maptransform.py
04:20 <Pathetique> It likes to scale spawn directions
04:20 <Pathetique> so I had 0.4 for ydir.
04:20 <Pathetique> lol
04:20 <luke-jr> who was it advertising #0,0 in here the other day?
04:20 <Pathetique> MrBougo
04:20 <Pathetique> or something
04:20 <Pathetique> He also got ivantis to type /exec -o yes or soemthing
04:20 <luke-jr> -.-
04:20 <BabyBug> Lucifer, i thought you had armabot?
04:20 <Pathetique> and we were promtply flooded.
04:21 <ct|kyle> probably does for rotational purpose
04:21 <Lucifer> no, wrtlprnft has armabot right now
04:21 <BabyBug> but you have had it?
04:21 <Lucifer> when I finally get into a stable place, I may see if I can get armabot back
04:21 <Lucifer> yeah, I started armabot
04:21 <Pathetique> No, kyle, I simply scaled down a map file to 40% of the original size.
04:21 <BabyBug> i'm not going mad then :)
04:21 <Lucifer> I also started the wiki and then turned it over to guru3 :)
04:21 <Pathetique> And I noticed it and was like "lolololol"
04:21 <Lucifer> it's an open question who's going to wind up with the buildbot, heh
04:22 <Pathetique> Someone want to try and compile my branch?
04:22 <ct|kyle> Pathetique: yes but it is there for the rotation tools part
04:22 <BabyBug> lol, so who are you going to hand the buildbot over to?
04:22 <BabyBug> oh
04:22 <BabyBug> beat me to it :(
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04:22 <Lucifer> the wiki changed hands when my ex came up to me one day and said we should get divorced
04:22 <BabyBug> nice to see the wiki was one of your primary concerns during that
04:22 <Lucifer> not knowing what was going to happen next, I hit up the developer's only forum to get whatever arma assets I had taken off my hands
04:23 <Lucifer> well, this incident was worked out and we were together for another year after that
04:23 <Pathetique> I don't know if it will work because the configure script keeps saying "I've decided you're a fuckup and I'm going to be stubborn and not work without --enable-automake-defaults passed.
04:23 <Lucifer> so when the divorce finally *did* happen, I didn't have to worry about arma obligations, I had already taken care of them
04:23 <Pathetique> "
04:23 <BabyBug> =\
04:23 <BabyBug> lol
04:24 <Lucifer> but I think armabot had been passed to wrtlprnft before that time
04:24 <ct|kyle> I don't remember you ever having her
04:24 <Pathetique> http://www.fincher.org/CoinStacking/NickelSpiral.shtml
04:24 <Lucifer> it's possible wrtlprnft took over armabot at that time too
04:24 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: Armabot is Python
04:24 <Lucifer> now I'm curious
04:24 <luke-jr> that alone is proof
04:25 <Pathetique> Lucifer: You should start an art company that does that stuff in the link I just sent.
04:25 <BabyBug> hey wait, that doesn't make sense....I remember you having armabot...but i haven't been here that long
04:25 <BabyBug> i am going mad :(
04:25 <Pathetique> BabyBug: I don't think it really matters who has armabot.
04:25 <BabyBug> Pathetique, of course it does!
04:25 <ct|kyle> I know that is what I found funny
04:26 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: I bet you handed her over before the wiki
04:26 <ct|kyle> more like 2 years ago
04:26 <ct|kyle> I remember when the wiki happened
04:26 <Concord> You can do it higher, but it
04:26 <Concord> will take up a lot more nickels.
04:26 <Concord> wtf
04:27 <Concord> it won't take any more per layer than it did before!
04:27 <Lucifer> yeah, looks like armabot got transferred much earlier
04:27  * Lucifer doesn't even remember why armabot got moved
04:27 <Lucifer> we're approaching two years since the wiki handover
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04:27 <BabyBug> she ran away from you didn't she?
04:27 <ct|kyle> dam time is flying fast
04:28 <Lucifer> BabyBug: no, there was a performance problem, I remember that
04:28 <ct|kyle> but there still is one :P
04:28 <Lucifer> it was also during OS upgrade problems I was having, so maybe the armabot change was only supposed to be temporary
04:28 <BabyBug> Lucifer, yup...run away...leading to poor performance :P
04:28 <Lucifer> I don't remember, I do know that I wouldn't mind having armabot back now ;)
04:29 <Pathetique> brb, Quicktime won't force-quit.
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04:29 <luke-jr> we don't need armabot anymore ☺
04:29 <BabyBug> agreed!
04:29 <BabyBug> (not with luke-jr )
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04:32 <luke-jr> Pathetique: you're pathetic
04:32  * Lucifer wonders if the master2 redirect has been going on since the wiki handover
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04:36 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: no I think that was maybe in november of last year
04:37 <Lucifer> probably sooner than that, more like september or even august
04:37 <Lucifer> since that was when I left my ex
04:39  * Lucifer needs to quit thinking about that stuff and just find something to kill time for the weekend
04:39 <Lucifer> because on Tuesday, if I find out I got that job, I'm going to be busybusybusy
04:39 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: I was right it was in november
04:39 <Lucifer> really?
04:40 <ct|kyle> ya
04:40 <Lucifer> hmmm, maybe that was when I gave up on bringing my server back online, and we all just suffered without master2 in the meantime
04:40 <Lucifer> well, I definitely need to go to the store, bbiab
04:40 <ct|kyle> I think 2 masters were down at that time and guru3 pointed them to other locations
04:41 <BabyBug> bad arma devs!
04:41 <ct|kyle> we just pointed all ours to master4 (wrtls)
04:43 <BabyBug> why does the game have a list of master servers in the first place? Would just one subdomain and a round robin be more convenient? so that more could be added without having to add them to the game?
04:44 <luke-jr> BabyBug: becuase guru3 likes a DNS host that doesn't support RR
04:44 <BabyBug> oh...
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04:48 <Pathetique> *cue dramatic music* and so we begin...Pathetique creates yet another Time Machine backup.
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04:50 <luke-jr> pathetic
04:52 <Pathetique> luke-jr: http://www.funnyexamanswers.com/img/whereisthex.jpg
04:53 <Pathetique> BabyBug: http://www.funnyexamanswers.com/img/shesawoman.jpg
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05:11 <Lucifer> well, that's the first time that's ever happened to me
05:11 <Lucifer> a group of kids in a car cheering at me when they drove by
05:12 <Lucifer> I've been honked at, yelled "Get on the sidewalk you dumbshit" at me
05:12 <Lucifer> never cheered before
05:12 <luke-jr> LOL
05:15 <Lucifer> x=5, it's a 3,4,5 triangle
05:16 <Lucifer> I hope they weren't cheering sarcastically
05:17 <Pathetique> Hmmm?
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05:59 <sinewav> Holy crap, this article made me pee my pants...
05:59 <sinewav> http://funnyexamanswers.com/2007/10/24/find-the-height-of-a-building-using-a-barometer/
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06:54 <apparition> come to TR team sumo!
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07:08 <joda_bot> #m smoothice http://de.php.net/manual/en/pdo.lobs.php
07:08 <joda_bot> ah damn
07:08 <joda_bot> armabuilder: help
07:08 <armabuilder> Get help on what? (try 'help <foo>', or 'commands' for a command list)
07:08 <joda_bot> armabuilder: help tell
07:08 <armabuilder> no such command 'tell'
07:09 <joda_bot> armabuilder: help alias
07:09 <armabuilder> no such command 'alias'
07:09 <joda_bot> armabuilder: help echo
07:09 <armabuilder> no such command 'echo'
07:09 <joda_bot> armabuilder: version
07:09 <armabuilder> buildbot-0.7.9 at your service
07:09 <joda_bot> armabuilder: help commands
07:09 <armabuilder> Usage: commands - List available commands
07:09 <joda_bot> armabuilder: commands
07:09 <armabuilder> buildbot commands: commands, dance, destroy, excited, force, hello, help, join, last, leave, list, notify, source, status, stop, version, watch
07:10 <joda_bot> armabuilder: help notify
07:10 <armabuilder> Usage: notify on|off|list [<EVENT>] ... - Notify me about build events.  event should be one or more of: 'started', 'finished', 'failed', 'success', 'exception', 'successToFailed', 'failedToSuccess'
07:10  * joda_bot shakes head ...
07:12 <Lucifer> http://www.snopes.com/college/exam/barometer.asp
07:12 <Lucifer> joda_bot: armabuilder isn't a supybot
07:14 <joda_bot> Lucifer: I noticed just had hoped it could deliver messages too
07:14 <joda_bot> Lucifer: can't nickserv do that too ?
07:16 <Lucifer> I don't know, but I'm considering setting up a supybot again
07:16 <Lucifer> all the stuff that makes armabot work is in svn, unless wrtlprnft made changes he didn't commit
07:17 <joda_bot> Lucifer: hmm, ok, I'm not really sure we need another bot if I can send delayed messages :-)
07:17 <joda_bot> oh I can :D
07:18 <joda_bot> just have to add an buddy alert
07:19 <Lucifer> cloak, that's what it's called
07:19  * Lucifer is really freaking hungry
07:20 <joda_bot> Lucifer: I'd send you some food, but it'd be eaten or ruined before arrival
07:22  * joda_bot tries /msg memoserver Lucifer hi there message :-)
07:22 <joda_bot>  /msg Memoserv Lucifer hi there message :-)
07:24 <joda_bot> omg, MemoServ is a bit noisy :-)
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09:17 <epsy> haha
09:18 <Lucifer> #load CIA
09:18 <LuciBot> Lucifer: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
09:18 <Lucifer> #whoami
09:18 <LuciBot> Lucifer: I don't recognize you.
09:18 <Lucifer> #load CIA
09:18 <LuciBot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
09:18 <Lucifer> #join #CIA
09:19 <epsy> er
09:19 <epsy> isn't it #commits ?
09:19 <Lucifer> oh yeah
09:19 <Lucifer> #join #commits
09:19 <Lucifer> #part #CIA
09:19 <LuciBot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
09:19 <Lucifer> ok, fixed
09:19 <Lucifer> #help CIA
09:19 <LuciBot> Lucifer: Error: There is no command "cia".
09:19 <Lucifer> #list cia
09:19 <LuciBot> Lucifer: addhandler, describe, listhandlers, removehandler, and runhandler
09:20  * Lucifer doesn't remember how this plugin works
09:20 <epsy> what do you want to do?
09:20 <Lucifer> make it relay commit messages
09:20 <epsy> ah
09:20 <epsy> it was done on armabot with ChannelRelay
09:20 <Lucifer> you sure?
09:21 <Lucifer> that would be a change from how it worked whenever I gave armabot to wrtlprnft
09:21 <epsy> it was
09:21 <Lucifer> #quit
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09:22 <Lucifer> why are you pinging me?
09:22 <epsy> what's the "lightspeed" part for? :)
09:22 <Lucifer> beats me
09:22 <Lucifer> it's my roommate's internet connection
09:22 <epsy> so it is not actually light speed?
09:23 <Lucifer> not really, heh
09:23 <epsy> lol >.>
09:23  * Lucifer wants to know if he got the job *now*
09:23 <epsy> Lucifer, the other thing with group registration is that we can claim rights on a channel
09:24 <epsy> before the fancy hostmask stuff
09:25 <Lucifer> true, but I'm really not sure how useful that would be
09:25 <Lucifer> really, I'm just wanting to offer armagetronad cloaks to everyone :)
09:25 <epsy> heh
09:25 <epsy> oh yeah, the problem now
09:25 <epsy> we have many clan/team channels around
09:25 <Lucifer> I'm sure there's plenty of benefits to registering as a group besides that, but that's the one I'm after
09:26 <Lucifer> we can offer clan/team cloaks
09:26 <epsy> the freenode policy page states it as off-topic use
09:26 <epsy> we'd need to clear that our with the staff or, I'm afraid, change networks
09:26 <Lucifer> well, those clans and teams have to worry about it themselves ;)
09:27 <epsy> we have to worry about them having a relatively happy living
09:30 <Lucifer> no we don't
09:30 <Lucifer> us registering a group will not affect them directly
09:30 <epsy> no
09:31 <epsy> it won't
09:31 <epsy> it has always been like this
09:31 <Lucifer> it's possible that we can attempt to assimilate those channels, if freenode wants us to do so for them to be considered on-topic
09:32 <epsy> we have to get them on-topic
09:32 <Lucifer> I think those channels are within freenode's intent, if not letter of their policies
09:32 <epsy> http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#ontopic
09:32 <epsy> 10Non-Geographical Interest Group.  Non-geographical interest groups covering a variety of subjects may be on-topic. Please consult a staffer. Public discussion channels which adhere to the freenode  channel guidelines  are most likely to be considered favorably. With occasional exceptions, game player channels are discouraged under this category.
09:33 <Lucifer> #
09:33 <Lucifer> # Web Media. Members of blogger communities are welcome to set up channels associated with their sites or communities. Owners of forum or reference sites are welcome.
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09:34 <Lucifer> I'll bet they'd let us fly, assuming they cracked down in the first place
09:34 <Lucifer> since those clan/team channels (and our own tourney channel) are all formed around an open source game
09:34 <Lucifer> it's not like they're halo channels or what-have-you
09:35 <epsy> yeah, that's what I've been theorizing
09:35 <joda_bot> Lucifer: is freenode cleaning out channels ?
09:36 <Lucifer> joda_bot: no, just a paranoid frenchman in our midst
09:36 <epsy> best is to consult a staffer, really
09:36 <Lucifer> epsy: at one point I read freenode's guidelines and thought those extra channels were fine, but I suppose we should consult a staffer
09:36 <joda_bot> oh, yeah, I wasn't allowed to past more than 10 lines either :-P
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09:52 <epsy> bbl
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10:00 <joda_bot> ..
10:00 <joda_bot> hm :-)
10:01 <joda_bot> is there still a IRC ssl test server around ?
10:01 <joda_bot> I'd like that for my wireless here at university :-)
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12:01 <Vanhayes> .morning
12:05 <joda_bot> Vanhayes: hi
12:05 <joda_bot> bots are dying :D
12:10 <Vanhayes> maybe they are still sleeping
12:11 <Vanhayes> hmm, armabot been gone for a while
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13:17 <HyperDrive> hi all
13:17 <PinkTomato> Hey HyperDrive
13:17 <PinkTomato> did you fix FPS?
13:18 <HyperDrive> i got a 10% boost by not rendering the rim walls but it makes the game damn hard to play :P
13:18 <PinkTomato> what is your current FPS?
13:19 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: Can you play without sparks ? disable them
13:19 <HyperDrive> it starts at around 240 and quickly drops to about 20 near the end of the round
13:19 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: use bilinear instead of trilinear filtering
13:19 <joda_bot> :D
13:19 <HyperDrive> i have all details off etc
13:19 <HyperDrive> i do
13:19 <joda_bot> no gpu-wise anti-aliasing
13:19 <joda_bot> etc. :D
13:19 <HyperDrive> i even use swap mode set to fastest
13:20 <joda_bot> did you turn of displaylists too ?
13:20 <PinkTomato> What's your Graphics Card?
13:20 <joda_bot> u might get better performance with displaylists enabled
13:20 <HyperDrive> ive tried it both wats
13:20 <HyperDrive> ways*
13:20 <HyperDrive> doesnt seen to make any difference
13:20 <HyperDrive> its a sis mirage 3 :P
13:20 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: what kind of display do you use ? and how many FPS do you get ?
13:20 <HyperDrive> 1.73ghz celery
13:21 <HyperDrive> i just said lol
13:21 <HyperDrive> message lag :D
13:21 <joda_bot> HyperDrive:  :-), I guess it's more or less software rending what you see ? :D
13:21 <HyperDrive> i hope its hardware rendering
13:21 <HyperDrive> ?????
13:21 <joda_bot> I guess not :-)
13:21 <PinkTomato> Are you using a Graphics Driver?
13:22 <joda_bot> Mirage 3 sounds like a 2d card :-)
13:22 <PinkTomato> But it was 2006,
13:22 <HyperDrive> im sure its 3d hardware accelerated
13:22 <PinkTomato> should be OK enough maybe?
13:22 <HyperDrive> it must be
13:23 <HyperDrive> i have a game thats much more graphically intense and it runs smoother than arma
13:23 <HyperDrive> so it cant be software
13:23 <PinkTomato> When the game first started, was the walls white?
13:23 <HyperDrive> no
13:23 <HyperDrive> the bike or rim ?
13:23 <PinkTomato> Rim walls
13:23 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: heh, it supports 3d opengl / directx :D
13:23 <HyperDrive> ah I have tried it both ways
13:24 <HyperDrive> thats a good thing right :P
13:24 <HyperDrive> lol
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13:24 <HyperDrive> i dont know, maybe software would be faster in this card XD
13:24 <nsh22> hai
13:24 <HyperDrive> hi
13:25 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: what resolution do you play at ?
13:25 <HyperDrive> i was just in irc://moznet/chatzilla asking one of the help staff there for some help (being only my 2nd day in irc) and they banned me :"(
13:25 <nsh22> what you need help with?
13:25 <HyperDrive> ive tried all resolutions and have set it to the lowest
13:25 <joda_bot> lowest !!?
13:25 <HyperDrive> it renders fastest
13:25 <PinkTomato> 320 x 240?
13:25 <PinkTomato> that's crazy
13:25 <HyperDrive> 320 x 200
13:25 <joda_bot> hehe rofl
13:26 <HyperDrive> higher = slower
13:26 <joda_bot> What OS do you use anyway ?
13:26 <PinkTomato> Hopefully not NT 4
13:26 <HyperDrive> i have to use windows xp for arma because i cant find any 3d drivers for linux :(
13:26 <joda_bot> Windows 9x :D
13:26 <nsh22> i run windows 3.1 :P
13:26 <HyperDrive> i should try windows 9x
13:26 <PinkTomato> Hmm,
13:26 <joda_bot> can you lookup the version of the driver you've got installed
13:27 <nsh22> lol i used to have that os
13:27 <HyperDrive> yes
13:27 <joda_bot> I bet u have the default microsoft driver ?
13:27 <HyperDrive> one second
13:27 <PinkTomato> How much RAM?
13:27 <PinkTomato> joda_bot:  that's what I was thinking,
13:27 <PinkTomato> but if the rim walls weren't white..
13:27 <HyperDrive> ive tried both the default and new/older versions/oem/original etc etc
13:27 <HyperDrive> all about the same
13:27 <joda_bot> PinkTomato: the card can use upto 256MB (shared probably)
13:27 <joda_bot> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Ground0/Sis_Mirage
13:27 <HyperDrive> yeah shared hinkmemory i t
13:27 <HyperDrive> erm ?
13:28 <HyperDrive> yeah shared memory i think
13:28 <HyperDrive> lol thats better
13:28 <joda_bot> PinkTomato: sorry, just noticed the page i German
13:28 <HyperDrive> ok give me a moment
13:28 <PinkTomato> joda_bot: hehe :)
13:28 <HyperDrive> if possible could one of you ask irc://moznet/chatzilla to unban me :D
13:28 <HyperDrive> i did nothing wrong
13:28 <HyperDrive> lol
13:29 <PinkTomato> HyperDrive: I got banned in ubuntu-uk and never been there,
13:29 <HyperDrive> looking up drivers
13:29 <PinkTomato> the ban system in IRC is not very goos
13:29 <HyperDrive> what do you do ?
13:29 <HyperDrive> what i was asking support is how to talk in irc.justin.tv it asks for a password
13:30 <HyperDrive> but i regestered my name and password in irc already
13:30 <HyperDrive> thats exactly what i asked
13:30 <HyperDrive> sort of
13:30 <HyperDrive> lol
13:30 <nsh22> you need the password of the server
13:30 <HyperDrive> so why did they say that instead of banning me
13:30 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: hehe, you have to register for each IRC server network
13:30 <nsh22> iunno, maybeh they are duchebags?
13:31 <HyperDrive> i think so nsh22
13:31 <HyperDrive> i was talking to one help there yesterday for 3 hours
13:31 <HyperDrive> very nice person
13:31 <HyperDrive> we played a few online games
13:31 <HyperDrive> talked about all kinds of crap
13:31 <HyperDrive> today i ask 1 question to someone else and get banned
13:31 <HyperDrive> what a bastard
13:31 <nsh22> HyperDrive: i think joda_bot is right, try to register on that network
13:32 <PinkTomato> Anyways, Right Click Properties
13:32 <HyperDrive> how can I register if I cant enter :P
13:32 <PinkTomato> on desktop
13:32 <HyperDrive> im confused
13:32 <HyperDrive> oh yeah drivers hold on
13:32 <PinkTomato> Intel G288 ...
13:32 <nsh22> well then your not getting in if you dont know the pass :P
13:32 <PinkTomato> A line like that
13:32  * joda_bot searches the driver ... because it might not even be an sis mirage 3 :-P
13:32 <PinkTomato> Except it will be different
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13:33 <PinkTomato> "Something" on Plug and Play Monitor
13:33 <HyperDrive> sis 672 128mb memory, driver version 6.14.10.3810 (im currently using the microsoft crap as the others didnt seem to make any difference)
13:34 <PinkTomato> Try the SIS driver again,
13:34 <PinkTomato> but reset the armagetron setting file
13:35 <PinkTomato> g2g, good luck :)
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13:35 <HyperDrive> ok thanks
13:36 <HyperDrive> can someone do me a favor and ask irc://moznet/chatzilla to unban me, let them know its only my 2nd day on irc and I have no idea what im doing XD
13:36 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: I guess the ban expires tomorrow ... don't think it's permanent
13:37 <HyperDrive> you dont want to ask them joda ?
13:37 <joda_bot> I'm not online there
13:37 <HyperDrive> you cannot go online there ?
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13:38 <HyperDrive> see I have no idea how this irc works
13:38 <HyperDrive> I seem to be able to go everywhere ?
13:38 <akira_arma> O.o
13:38 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: you're from the us ?
13:38 <HyperDrive> uk
13:39 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: try this http://www.sis.com/download/download_step2.php?id=155944&country=UK&Image791.x=73&Image791.y=9
13:39 <joda_bot> I hope you can directly enter the captcha and download ?
13:39 <HyperDrive> thanks is that for linux or xp ?
13:39 <joda_bot> xp
13:40 <HyperDrive> thanks i'll try it and also search again for the linux driver, i did search before when I was trying to render some 3d stuff on 3dmax but gave up
13:41 <HyperDrive> oO they have linux near the bottom of the list :D
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13:41 <HyperDrive> possibly :P
13:41 -!- neal_arma is now known as nsh22
13:41 <joda_bot> http://www.sis.com/download/ ... click through the questions to get your driver
13:42 <HyperDrive> damn they have 67x series for xp but not for linux
13:42 <HyperDrive> i'll get the xp
13:42 <joda_bot> I guess there might be a linux driver, which might not make Armagetron any faster than on Windows
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13:42 <nsh22> HyperDrive: are you still running arma without rendereedd wall?
13:43 <HyperDrive> i turn it on and off with the render_rimwall 0/1 command I added
13:43 <epsy> hi
13:43 <HyperDrive> that should be 1/0 lol
13:43 <nsh22> o0, wouldnt that make playing slightly difficult?
13:43 <HyperDrive> very :D
13:43 <epsy> joda_bot, freenode has ssl afaik
13:44 <nsh22> what mode do you play? ctfs, sumo, fort, hr, df etc
13:44 <HyperDrive> but its quite good, maybe it should be made a server feature for extra hard bastard players :D
13:44 <epsy> now I'm not sure if they have ipv6+ssl :D
13:44 <HyperDrive> only standard
13:44 <nsh22> @google afaik
13:44 <joda_bot> epsy: afaik they only tested it
13:44 <teabot> nsh22: http://www.netlingo.com/word/afaik.php - AFAIK - NetLingo The Internet Dictionary: Online Dictionary of ...
13:44 <epsy> how did you do that
13:44 <epsy> @plugin google
13:44 <teabot> epsy: The "google" command is available in the QGoogle plugin.
13:44 <epsy> @list Google
13:44 <teabot> epsy: cache, calc, fight, lucky, meta, phonebook, spell, and stats
13:45 <epsy> oh
13:45 <epsy> I removed it hehe
13:45 <nsh22> @google fight
13:45 <teabot> nsh22: Error: I tried to send you an empty message.
13:45 <HyperDrive> hmmm yoda whats the difference between gpu and igp ?
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13:45 <epsy> gpu means graphics processing unit and igb intel graphics processor? xD
13:45 <joda_bot> nooooo
13:46 <joda_bot> igp = intregrated graphic processor
13:46 <joda_bot> on chip
13:46 <epsy> that's pretty much a synonym to "intel graphics processor" or "shitty gpu"
13:46 <joda_bot> it's not a separate graphics card or chip, it also does IO
13:46 <joda_bot> :-P
13:46 <HyperDrive> weird my xp says the drivers are 672 but in the hardware manager it says the service is 315 ?
13:47 <HyperDrive> now im really confused
13:47 <HyperDrive> i have both sis672 and sis315 listed
13:47 <HyperDrive> on the same driver ?
13:47 <nsh22> ]ping
13:48 <nsh22> ...
13:48 <HyperDrive> at the sis download site they have a sis315 gpu driver and a sis67x igp driver lol
13:48 <HyperDrive> now what do I do XD
13:48 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: do you have a bill or any reference what computer you bought ?
13:49 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: if you can find out the manufactor of the pc or even better mainboard
13:49 <HyperDrive> lol £60 2nd hard from market with a smashed power input socket which i had to replace, bill was scribbled on an envelope in pencil XD
13:49 <HyperDrive> hand*
13:50 <HyperDrive> theres the problem
13:50 <HyperDrive> its a u40si1
13:50 <HyperDrive> it can be branded by uniwill, e systems, many many more...
13:50 <HyperDrive> ive tried the uniwill drivers
13:50 <HyperDrive> same as the windows xp default drivers
13:51 <HyperDrive> i'll download both the 67x and the 315 from the sis site and see what happens
13:51 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: you read the "u40si1" from the platine print ?
13:52 <HyperDrive> the u40si1 is the correct mother board number but its from the case sticker, theres also the e systems model number which is 4213
13:56 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: have you ever looked inside and confirmed the number from the board ?
13:57 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: I just want to exclude the problem that someone upgraded / changed the hardware in the case
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13:58 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: wait it's a notebook ? :D
13:58 <HyperDrive> I stripped the thing to desolder the broken power input socket but for some reason I didnt look for the model number :(
13:58 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: ok, now you don't have to open it
13:58 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: hheh, they don't change notebooks mainboard ... never heard of that :D
13:58 <HyperDrive> you can see the crappy thing here http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=204970#204970
13:59 <HyperDrive> actually its not so bad, it works well
14:00 <HyperDrive> firefox 3.06 loads from cold in about 4 seconds and if already running reopening a new firefox takes about 1.5 seconds, im happy with that
14:01 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: let me check the manual ... :D
14:01 <HyperDrive> you probably have the same service manual as I :D
14:02 <joda_bot> you might have a look too, if it matches your notebook :D
14:02 <joda_bot> http://www.uniwill.com/UserDownload/u40si1/u40si1.php
14:02 <HyperDrive> its very detailed on disassembly and replacing stuff
14:04 <HyperDrive> yeah thats the user manual i have that too, the hardware service manual is better, shows the step by step exploded diagram stuff on how to dismantle its very nice
14:04 <HyperDrive> ive lost the link
14:04 <HyperDrive> http://www.uniwill.com/UserDownload/u40si1/drivers/xp/VGA.zip is the driver im currently using
14:05 <HyperDrive> for sure
14:05 <HyperDrive> i'll try the one from the sis site too
14:05 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: You've got both! Core Logic : SIS M672 + SIS 968      AND GPU/VGA: SIS M672 + SIS 307ELV
14:05 <joda_bot> try installing and using the 307 gpu driver
14:05 <HyperDrive> are you sure ? my sistem tells me i have 315 and 672 ?
14:06 <epsy> guru3, http://forums.armagetronad.net/images/avatars/158311123349c34d7745cfc.png ?
14:06 <HyperDrive> maybe my drivers are wrong
14:06 <HyperDrive> damn my virus scanner has been moaning for 2 days that it wants to update lol
14:07 <epsy> can't boot windows without it prompting for updates
14:07 <epsy> each time I boot it it shows me updates
14:07 <HyperDrive> i cannot access the sis site now ?
14:07 <joda_bot> epsy: same goes for linux if you ask the packagemanager and do not maintain/start linux regulary
14:07 <HyperDrive> i have windows updates turned off
14:07 <HyperDrive> oO
14:08 <joda_bot> the site works fine
14:08 <epsy> joda_bot, I do click shutdown&update
14:08 <HyperDrive> i also spent a day shutting down all the windows xp open ports XD
14:08 <HyperDrive> all the crappy services
14:08 <HyperDrive> that was a pain in the ...
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14:09 <epsy> it's like I could boot windows 15 times and install updates, it would still show me updates
14:09 <nsh22> oh hey hype
14:09 <HyperDrive> i think i'll have to clear firefox's cache. its gone nuts
14:09 <Hyp3> hey im new to dis place
14:09 <nsh22> im neal btw
14:09 <epsy> hi
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14:09 <Hyp3> hey dude
14:09 <Hyp3> well i have a very big dilemma
14:09 <akira_arma> O.o
14:09 <nsh22> Hyp3: if you want to type somones name, just start typing it and press tab
14:09 <Hyp3> hopefully sum1 here can help
14:10 <Hyp3> k
14:10 <Hyp3> i have a need for a competitive gaming ladder
14:10 <Hyp3> like it has challenge abilities
14:10 <Hyp3> php of course
14:10 <epsy> for arma?
14:10 <epsy> ah
14:10 <Hyp3> for an amra related site
14:11 <joda_bot> epsy: XP is ok, with pre-included Servicepacks ... from my perspective xp without SP3 is like upgrading ubuntu from 4 years ago :-)
14:11 <epsy> you want to build a gaming ladder
14:11 <Hyp3> yeh
14:11 <nsh22> epsy: he cant write in php
14:11 <Hyp3> well i cant build as im retarded at tht stuff
14:11 <epsy> joda_bot, I'm just waiting for QL to be ported to linux, then I can scrap windows
14:11 <Hyp3> lol what he said
14:11 <epsy> how do you plan on maintaining a thing this big if you don't know php ?
14:12 <nsh22> i think hes asking if anyone has something like that
14:12 <Hyp3> as in i can manage it, just cant create it
14:12 <joda_bot> epsy: :D I already wondered what made u use it :-P
14:12 <HyperDrive> hmm i cannot access sis.com
14:12 <Hyp3> and i have shoebat to assist me
14:12 <epsy> joda_bot, that's the only thing that made me bring back windows in my boot menu lol
14:13 <Hyp3> he works with php as a profession but doesnt have the time for this
14:13 <epsy> if you can't create it you can't manage it
14:13 <Hyp3> he can only install them for me
14:13 <HyperDrive> Network Timeout
14:13 <HyperDrive> The server at sis.com is taking too long to respond.
14:13 <epsy> HyperDrive, same here it seems
14:13 <epsy> HyperDrive, bad luck :o)
14:13 <HyperDrive> damn i download 1 driver and the site shuts down
14:13 <epsy> HyperDrive, well there is no such software yet especially for arma
14:14 <HyperDrive> i ask one question in support and get banned
14:14 <epsy> Hyp3, *
14:14 <Hyp3> also i probably wnt be the one maintaining it as i will most probably hand it over to destiny to run
14:14 <HyperDrive> whats going on today :P
14:14 <joda_bot> Epsy's boot menu:
14:14 <joda_bot> Welcome epsy, what do you want to do today?
14:14 <joda_bot> 1) excellent Gentoo Linux with 1337 untained OpenSource
14:14 <joda_bot> 2) Quake Live (imprisoned in Crappy ol' WinXp)
14:14 <epsy> Hyp3, so you'd have to take a ladder engine and adapt it to arma
14:14 <epsy> joda_bot, :(
14:14 <joda_bot> sis.com still works for me
14:15 <HyperDrive> have you guys played ignition ?
14:15 <epsy> joda_bot, also, I use arch now
14:15 <HyperDrive> oh still working hmm
14:15 <HyperDrive> i'll try again
14:15 <HyperDrive> lemme pingit
14:15 <epsy> joda_bot, but that's pretty much it
14:15 <Hyp3> by adapt do u mean connect i mean like CTF game type and use the ladder as a ranking system and an automated way of challenges for clan wars
14:15 <joda_bot> epsy: don't take my teasing serious ... I used gentoo , too :-)
14:15 <HyperDrive> Reply from 203.67.208.66: bytes=32 time=345ms TTL=238
14:15 <epsy> by adapt it I mean making it communicate with an arma server
14:15 <HyperDrive> hmmm
14:15 <joda_bot> but I just like the tainted windows crap better ... for now
14:15 <HyperDrive> do you get the same ip
14:16 <Hyp3> nonon not any of that
14:16 <epsy> joda_bot, it's annoying
14:16 <Hyp3> and offsite ladder where people sign up and enter the results
14:16 <joda_bot> epsy: so what do you use ?
14:16 <epsy> arch?
14:16 <epsy> Hyp3, ah
14:16 <Hyp3> etc. they make the challenge then they play the match on arma then they enter the result and it is generated
14:16 <joda_bot> sis.com -> 203.67.208.66
14:16 <epsy> lackadaisical made such a thing afaik
14:16 <Hyp3> i have examples of this.
14:17 <Hyp3> yeh he did he made a sumo 1v1 ladder
14:17 <epsy> just wait for him to hop by or leave him a message on the forums
14:17 <Hyp3> ive seen it it is very shnazzy
14:17 <joda_bot> epsy: is arch a distribution ? :-?
14:17 <nsh22> Hyp3:  do you have an arma forums account?
14:17 <Hyp3> the main armaforum?
14:17 <epsy> joda_bot, arch short for archlinux, not GNU arch
14:17 <nsh22> yeah
14:17 <joda_bot> epsy: or did I guess right and you use gentoo ?
14:17 <Hyp3> nope
14:18 <nsh22> get one
14:18 <epsy> (which I'm not sure it is still GNU)
14:18 <nsh22> www.forums.armagetronad.net
14:18 <Hyp3> and i believe Ww is willing to pay through donations of the ones interested
14:18 <epsy> gah, remove that www. NOW
14:18 <nsh22> forums.armagetronad.net
14:18 <nsh22> :P
14:18 <epsy> good boy
14:18 <HyperDrive> weird i can get a ping response from sis.com but thats about all
14:18 <nsh22> whats wrong wth www. ?
14:18 <joda_bot> www.epsy.forums.armagetronad.net :-P
14:18 <epsy> looks odd
14:19 <joda_bot> hm, atleast my link is broken *happy*
14:19 <nsh22> any1 know what the adrees is to the *new* forums?
14:19 <HyperDrive> thanks for talking about www i just tried www.sis.com and it works but sis.com doesnt lol
14:19 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: did you read my private messages ?
14:20 <HyperDrive> no i didnt sorry joda
14:20 <joda_bot> ...
14:20 <epsy> lol >.>
14:20 <Hyp3> and i believe Ww is willing to pay through donations of the ones interested
14:20 <nsh22> any1 know what the url is to the *new* forums?
14:20 <nsh22> Hyp3: pay for what?
14:20 <epsy> the new forums?
14:20 <Hyp3> like how much would a good php scripted lader cost?
14:20 <nsh22> epsy: the one being developed now
14:21 <joda_bot> Hyp3: developing a ranking system takes some time, I don't have ... and I don't think it would pay for my life ? :)
14:21 <nsh22> if lacka has already made one...
14:21 <Hyp3> lol i mean bying an already scripted one of the onterweb
14:21 <epsy> nsh22, there's discussion about a new theme and that's about it
14:21 <Hyp3> lacka's one didnt have the challenge system i dont think
14:22 <nsh22> epsy: oh, i thought i saw guru3 talking about it
14:22 <epsy> something like GGL ?
14:22 <Hyp3> ibelieve he manually entered the results through an admin cpanel
14:22 <joda_bot> GLL ?
14:22 <Hyp3> the one we are looking for is fully automated and results and challenges are made by the competitors
14:22 <epsy> no, GGL
14:22 <nsh22> @gtfy Hyp3 GLL
14:22 <teabot> Hyp3: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=GLL
14:23 <Hyp3> ?
14:23 <epsy> then that's not fully automatic :)
14:23 <Hyp3> well lol
14:23 <nsh22> a fullyty automatic would take the stats from the server...
14:23 <Hyp3> destiny doesnt have the time to be on everyday for the results
14:23 <Hyp3> automated
14:23 <epsy> that wouldn't be automatic either
14:23 <Hyp3> u understand... -.-
14:24 <epsy> what forum software do you use ?
14:24 <Hyp3> or not,,
14:24 <nsh22> @gtfy Hyp3 GGL
14:24 <teabot> Hyp3: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=GGL
14:24 <Hyp3> its not my forum software is destiny and mantas they just upgraded to have a ladder in it but it faulted and it is now useless
14:25 <Hyp3> www.lmgtfy?
14:25 <nsh22> just do it...
14:25 <epsy> the .com part is really more important than the www. one
14:25 <Hyp3> LOL
14:25 <Hyp3> hehe
14:25 <Hyp3> thts funny
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14:26 <epsy> but what forum software is it? ..
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14:26 <Hyp3> hmmm
14:26 <BabyBug> Hello
14:26 <Hyp3> i wonder.....
14:26 <epsy> :d
14:26 <nsh22> phpbb3 i think
14:26 <nsh22> BabyBug: ...
14:26 <Hyp3> yeh...thts it
14:26 <Hyp3> OH YEAH
14:26 <Hyp3> phpbbrival
14:26 <Hyp3> or sumfin
14:26 <epsy> yeah that
14:26 <nsh22> @google phpbbrival
14:26 <teabot> nsh22: http://www.phpbbrivals.com/ - phpBB Rivals
14:27  * joda_bot let's epsy herd the ctf-crowd
14:27 <epsy> mm?
14:28 <Hyp3> lol
14:28 <epsy> wow, freshmeat has a new face
14:28 <Hyp3> yeh the ladder is going to be for all game types i think
14:29 <nsh22> huh?
14:29 <Hyp3> to step up tron tourneys
14:29 <nsh22> Hyp3: whats wrong with the current ladder?
14:29 <guru3> hi all
14:29 <nsh22> hai
14:29 <nsh22> guru3: there no site yet for the *new* site is here?
14:29 <Hyp3> they dnt have a ladder
14:30 <guru3> no
14:30 <nsh22> Hyp3: they used to
14:30 <nsh22> oh ok
14:30 <guru3> because there is no new site
14:30 <Hyp3> they have server ladders
14:30 <Hyp3> but no clan war ladder
14:30 <nsh22> i meant "developing"
14:30 <Hyp3> except for a manual excel spread sheet one
14:31 <nsh22> Hyp3: i remeber they used to have a tournamant ladder and stuff
14:31 <Hyp3> hmm not anymore
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14:32 <nsh22> Hyp3: what happened?
14:32 <nsh22> i havent been on in ages
14:32 <Hyp3> they have only excel ones tht i know of
14:32 <Hyp3> and they got one with the new website but its faulty
14:32 <nsh22> how so?
14:33 <Hyp3> uhh couldnt record results
14:33 <Hyp3> and sutffz
14:33 <Hyp3> go read armagetron tourneys section
14:33 <nsh22> maybe they should just reinstall phpbbrivals
14:35 <Hyp3> maybe
14:35 <Hyp3> well ima go to bed
14:35 <nsh22> night
14:35 <Hyp3> guess dest may find a good ladder
14:35 <nsh22> @night
14:35 <Hyp3> all we need is da moneys
14:35 <teabot> Good-night, nsh22!
14:35 <Hyp3> bb
14:36 <Zurd> and i just woke up o.O
14:36 -!- Hyp3 [n=hyp3@cor8-ppp4528.mel.dsl.connect.net.au] has quit ["Leaving"]
14:36 <nsh22> its free.
14:36 <nsh22> ffs
14:36 <guru3> epsy: just an idea
14:37 <epsy> ]last --from epsy --with guru3
14:37 <nsh22> hes not here
14:37 <epsy> @last --from epsy --with guru3
14:37 <teabot> epsy: [06:37:02] <epsy> ]last --from epsy --with guru3
14:37 <nsh22> but hes in #anime tho :P
14:37 <epsy> @last --from epsy --with guru3 --nolimit
14:37 <teabot> epsy: [06:37:23] <epsy> @last --from epsy --with guru3, [06:37:02] <epsy> ]last --from epsy --with guru3, and [06:06:02] <epsy> guru3, http://forums.armagetronad.net/images/avatars/158311123349c34d7745cfc.png ?
14:37 <epsy> guru3, and does it mean anything?
14:38 <nsh22> stupid epsy maybeh?
14:38 <nsh22> :P
14:38 <guru3> not to armagetron
14:38 <epsy> ok?
14:38 <guru3> just an idea of mine im playing with
14:39 <epsy> :x
14:39 <guru3> wanted to see it in a diffrernt context
14:43 <BabyBug> epsy, what did you mean by anything new?
14:44 <epsy> @last --from BabyBug --with bzrlib
14:44 <teabot> epsy: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 1000 messages.
14:44 <epsy> batch/make/version.py
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14:46  * nsh22 waves
14:46 <smoothice> hi there nsh221
14:47 <smoothice> !
14:47 <epsy> BabyBug, are you even trying or I have to do it myself?
14:47 <smoothice> ANyone know when armagetron-php-client will up updated for use with protocol buffers??
14:47 <smoothice> be*
14:47 <BabyBug> epsy, figured out how to run the same bzr commands that in the bash file, using bzrlib. But i had to dash off before putting any of it in version.py.
14:47 <epsy> when there's protobuf for php
14:48 <smoothice> hmm
14:48 <epsy> ok
14:48 <smoothice> you sure?
14:48 <smoothice> I'm trying to do server status for my 0.3 fort server
14:48 <smoothice> but it returns php errors
14:48 <epsy> actually, it already exists
14:48 <joda_bot> epsy: protobuf's lastrelease was 2007 ?
14:49 <smoothice> nsh22: you heard of trunk-armagetronad-fortressai?
14:49 <joda_bot> epsy: or I recall the wrong lib/site :-)
14:49 <smoothice> code.google.com/protobuf
14:49 <smoothice> or not
14:49 <epsy> joda_bot, no, it's brand new
14:49 <nsh22> smoothice: erm, ive heard z-man talk about fort ai :p
14:50 <epsy> smoothice, so there just needs to be someone to port it
14:51 <smoothice> ...
14:51 <smoothice> great
14:52  * nsh22 elects smooth to port php
14:52 <epsy> yeah go port php
14:52 <smoothice> I
14:52 <smoothice> I'm not snart enough to understand protobuf
14:52 <smoothice> smart8
14:52 <smoothice> *
14:53 <smoothice> I honestly don't get it
14:53 <nsh22> or type obviously :P
14:53 <joda_bot> smoothice: did you get my message ?
14:53 <smoothice> joda_bot: no
14:53 <epsy> what don't you get?
14:54 <smoothice> Protocol Buffers are a way of encoding structured data in an efficient yet extensible format. Google uses Protocol Buffers for almost all of its internal RPC protocols and file formats.
14:54 <smoothice> I don't understand that
14:54 <epsy> where do you hic in this?
14:54 <smoothice> ?
14:55 <epsy> where do you block? what word?
14:55 <smoothice> encoding structured data in an efficient yet extensible format
14:55 <smoothice> what does it mean to do that
14:55 <epsy> structured data
14:56 <epsy> do you get that?
14:56 <smoothice> data that is structured?
14:56 <epsy> good
14:56 <epsy> encoding?
14:56 <smoothice> yes
14:56 <epsy> format?
14:56 <smoothice> yes
14:56 <epsy> something extensible
14:56 <smoothice> yes for the rest of it
14:56 <smoothice> -.-
14:56 <smoothice> you know epsy
14:57 <smoothice> when I need help from you
14:57 <smoothice> I don't get it
14:57 <smoothice> When I don't need help from you
14:57 <smoothice> I get it
14:57 <smoothice> -.-
14:57 <guru3> all perls of wisdom should be equally treasured
14:57 <smoothice> ?
14:57 <epsy> I don't think you need help from me for english do you? :)
14:57 <smoothice> ...
14:57 <nsh22> lmao
14:58 <nsh22> i dlike to learn french by april 4th :P
14:58 <nsh22> i have grade 10 french :P
14:58 <smoothice> epsy: screw protobuf
14:58 <Vanhayes> do you know any right now?
14:58 <smoothice> epsy: Who gives a crap
14:58 <nsh22> smoothice: you do
14:58 <smoothice> not anymore
14:59 <nsh22> Vanhayes: oui
14:59 <Vanhayes> nsh22, french is only good to learn if you will use it, otherwise you will forget alot of it
14:59 <nsh22> im going to france soon so...
15:00 <nsh22> im stalking epsy  while im there :P
15:00 <smoothice> epsy cannot be stalked
15:00 <smoothice> he'd run to Germany
15:00 <nsh22> then id follow him
15:00 <Vanhayes> bon chance then
15:00 <nsh22> :P
15:00 <smoothice> nsh22: creeper
15:00 <nsh22> smoothice: liar
15:01  * Vanhayes had to take french all through school
15:01 <Vanhayes> now i barely know any
15:01 <nsh22> same, except i styopped at grade 10
15:01 <nsh22> ok, homework now!
15:01 <Vanhayes> we are the only official biligual province so we have to take it all the way
15:01 <guru3> i had spanish instead of french
15:01 <nsh22> lol
15:02 <Vanhayes> not many spanish speaking people in these parts, so spanish was optional
15:02 <guru3> i lived in souther us
15:02 <guru3> large hispanic population
15:03 <smoothice> what state?
15:03 <smoothice> texas?
15:03 <nsh22> the only languiage my hs offers is french, i think thats quite gay
15:03 <smoothice> Texas, where thou Lucifer calls home?
15:03 <nsh22> smoothice: sites still down
15:03 <guru3> i said south, not west
15:03 <Vanhayes> i think our population in saint john is like 90% white 5% chinese and 5% others
15:03 <smoothice> texas is SOUTH w e s t LOL
15:04 <guru3> an american would say texas was in the west
15:04 <guru3> or mid-west
15:04 <guru3> never south
15:04 <Vanhayes> or wild west
15:04 <smoothice> lol...
15:04 <Vanhayes> isnt texas the farthest south?
15:04 <nsh22> fiking amaericans...
15:04 <nsh22> :P
15:04 <smoothice> fiking canadions..
15:04 <smoothice> :P
15:05 <smoothice> LOL!
15:05 <nsh22> :P
15:05 <guru3> it maybe, but it's still not the south
15:05 <smoothice> nsh22: go do your homework... this is big boy talk
15:05 <smoothice> nsh22: LOL
15:05 <nsh22> smoothice: i will kill you :P
15:05 <epsy> http://www.chiptune.com/kaleidoscope/
15:05  * nsh22 throws a butter knife at smoothice 
15:06 <nsh22> from canada
15:06 <Vanhayes> thats just weird, if its in the south it should be southern
15:06 <Vanhayes> though canada doesnt really have any sout, just north and northener
15:07 <HyperDrive> hello
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15:07 <smoothice> nsh22: shocks nsh22 with an exposed cable he has in his closet
15:07 <nsh22> ... we have maritimes, praries, west coast, ontario and the frenchlands :P
15:07 <nsh22> smoothice: cool
15:07 <Vanhayes> and teritories
15:07 <nsh22> i do need alittle energy today
15:07 <smoothice> nsh22: now go to do your homework and don't get exposed to too much of this big boy talk
15:08 <smoothice> nsh22: you'll have nightmares :P
15:08 <nsh22> smoth, im like 3 years older than you :P
15:08 <Vanhayes> plus newfoundland, they arent part of the maritimes
15:08 <smoothice> nsh22: so
15:08 <smoothice> nsh22: ?
15:08 <nsh22> smoothice: so stfu :P
15:08 <nsh22> smoothice: i own your life :P
15:08 <smoothice> nsh22: WTF?
15:08 <smoothice> nsh22: LOL!
15:08 <smoothice> nsh22: you own my life
15:08 <smoothice> nsh22: I own u!
15:08 <smoothice> nsh22: OWND!
15:08 <nsh22> smoothice: i bought it from your parents for $29.99
15:08 <smoothice> nsh22: wow that's expensive
15:09 <smoothice> nsh22: thank's dude!
15:09 <smoothice> nsh22: ownd
15:09 <nsh22> it came with your macbook
15:09 <smoothice> nsh22: ok lets stfu
15:09 <epsy> cough
15:09 <nsh22> ok lol
15:09 <smoothice> lol
15:09 <smoothice> epsy: ...
15:09 <nsh22> epsy: ROBITUSIN!
15:09 <smoothice> ?
15:09 <Vanhayes> get tussed up
15:09 <nsh22> never seen that commercial?
15:12 <Vanhayes> hmm, seems parts of canada are further sout than parts of california
15:12  * Vanhayes did not know that
15:16 <HyperDrive> my silly rim wall rendering mod http://rafb.net/p/1FP8n718.html
15:22 <HyperDrive> see you all later (I hope) im off to play a few rounds of arma then get on with some work
15:23 <HyperDrive> Thanks again Joda for your help
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15:32 <BabyBug> epsy, Why is ZNR used? (what does it even stand for?)
15:32 -!- emphasis [n=rolf@188-133-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl] has joined #armagetron
15:33 <epsy> it's the z-number
15:33 <epsy> basically, it's the revision count inclduing merged revisions
15:33 <BabyBug> ohhh ok
15:34 <epsy> in the shell version, it is computed by counting the number of lines in bzr log's ouput
15:34 <epsy> or bzr ancestors
15:34 <epsy> basically, it usually ensures an ever growing number
15:34 <BabyBug> kk
15:35 <smoothice> ct|kyle: ping
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15:56 <smoothice> .si -v ~Night Walker's Central~Fortress~
15:56 <tronner> smoothice: ~Night Walker\'s Central~Fortress~ (66.71.249.140:4536) running 0.3_alpha_z1354 unix dedicated, url: Nightwalkers.info, Description: “The new fortress server from ~NW with ladle settings and armathentication!“, Players (1/16): +|SmOoThice~NW
16:00 <smoothice> .later tell the Fortress AI used to def itself but now doesn't at all... lol
16:00 <tronner> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
16:01 <smoothice> .later tell z-man the Fortress AI used to def itself but now doesn't at all... lol
16:01 <tronner> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
16:01 <smoothice> .si -v ~Night Walker's Central~Fortress~
16:01 <tronner> smoothice: ~Night Walker\'s Central~Fortress~ (66.71.249.140:4536) running 0.3_alpha_z1354 unix dedicated, url: Nightwalkers.info, Description: “The new fortress server from ~NW with ladle settings and armathentication!“, Players (0/16):
16:21 <Concord> guru3 I know what that 't' was
16:21 <guru3> ?
16:23 <Concord> for some reason the "back to top" image didn't load
16:23 <Concord> and that was the first letter of "top" the replacement text
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16:24 <guru3> funky
16:24  * guru3 is working on lackarma2 some more
16:26 <Concord> cpayan, guru3: opinions on the input boxes for the dark version?
16:26 <Concord> like the post box
16:26 <cpayan> what about them. Background colors and whatnot, you mean?
16:28 <Concord> yeah
16:28 <guru3> the search box
16:28 <guru3> looks a bit fugly
16:29 <guru3> the post box looks fine
16:30 <cpayan> They should probably look as much the same as possible, any input boxes.
16:30 <cpayan> I haven't seen them, though
16:30 <Concord> so no dark background?
16:30 <guru3> i think a tint is fine
16:30 <guru3> http://guru3.net/temp/oops.png
16:33 <BabyBug> epsy, Did you figure out how to get the log using bzrlib by any chance?
16:34 <BabyBug> There's like nothing to tell you how to use bzrlib.log >.<
16:34 <BabyBug> And there's no other function to use to get znr
16:34 <cpayan> i'm a little confused, you're working on phpbb3 now, then, right? How simple/hard was it to install, I'll probably make an installation on my machine.
16:34 <cpayan> ah i guess it doesn't matter
16:35 <cpayan> I'll be installing it anyway
16:35 <Concord> what system are you on? I used MAMP with my mac, it was a piece of cake
16:36 <cpayan> Input fields should be a bit darker than the background, and have a border around them. They're different from the boxes for posts in that without the border, it's harder to tell that it's somewhere to write. Also, all the input fields should be the same color, to define them as input fields.
16:37 <cpayan> I'm going to go ahead and start installing phpbb3. Concord i've setup my laptop as a LAMP server, so I'm not exactly expecting any problems :)
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16:37 <HyperDrive> hello again
16:37 <Concord> ;)
16:37 <BabyBug> Hello
16:38 <Concord> phpbb3 itself is really easy I found
16:38 <smoothice> Anyone know if it is possible to make sp_map_file?
16:39 <eddiefantastic> sp_map_file?
16:39 <smoothice> yeah
16:39 <eddiefantastic> single_player...
16:39 <HyperDrive> single player map file
16:39 <smoothice> yeah
16:39 <HyperDrive> should be the same as usual no ?
16:39 <eddiefantastic> you can change the arena size, but not map iirc
16:40 <smoothice> I'm asking if I could code an sp_map_file :D
16:40 <smoothice> Fortress for SP and Square for multiple players
16:40 <HyperDrive> expert assistance required XD
16:40 <smoothice>  lol
16:42 <HyperDrive> lol im still banned from irc://moznet/chatzilla , what a bunch of jerks
16:42 <Vanhayes> cant you put the team setting and whatnot in the map itself?
16:44 <BabyBug> smoothice, tron/zone/zFortress.cpp line 479 if you want to see some defending :)
16:44 <BabyBug> (fortress ai)
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16:46 <HyperDrive> can this http://rafb.net/paste/ thing have some protection, its full of viagra spam XD
16:47 <PinkTomato> HyperDrive: Did you get a fix?
16:47 <HyperDrive> what was i fixing again ?
16:47 <HyperDrive> the graphics ?
16:48 <epsy> BabyBug, idk, sorry
16:48 <PinkTomato> HyperDrive: yes ^^
16:48 <HyperDrive> sorry I have a short attention span :p
16:48 <epsy> bbl
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16:48 <BabyBug> okies
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16:48 <HyperDrive> i donloaded some drivers from the sis site but I havent tried them yet
16:48 <BabyBug> temporary ugly hack it is then :D
16:48 <HyperDrive> downloaded*
16:49 <HyperDrive> pink did you se my silly rimwall hack that boosts the fps a little ?
16:50 <HyperDrive> is here if you want to take a look http://rafb.net/p/1FP8n718.html
16:51 <HyperDrive> its hard to play without rim walls but it might be a good feature for some crazy servers if you change the tsettingitem to an nsettingitem :D
16:53 <HyperDrive> i'll probably try those new drivers tomorow and let you all know how it goes
16:53 <HyperDrive> i gtg now and do some work lol cu
16:53 <PinkTomato> OK then :)
16:53 <PinkTomato> see you
16:53 <HyperDrive> cu
16:53 <guru3> the » in the train of breadcrumbs
16:53 <guru3> i can't figure out where phpbb3 stores that ><
16:54 <HyperDrive> your looking for what guru3 ?
16:55 <Concord> its um
16:55 <Concord> at least I put it
16:55 <guru3> chevron
16:55 <Concord> index-body.html
16:55 <guru3> i want to change the naglinks
16:55 <guru3> navlinks even
16:55 <HyperDrive> cant you grep the files for it ?
16:55 <guru3> i can
16:55 <guru3> and i'm not finding it
16:55 <guru3> hence the confusion
16:55 <HyperDrive> ah
16:55 <HyperDrive> lol
16:55 <Concord> index_body.html "<ul class="linklist">
16:55 <Concord> <p><a href="{U_INDEX}" accesskey="h">{L_INDEX}</a> <!-- BEGIN navlinks --> <strong>&#8249;</strong> <a href="{navlinks.U_VIEW_FORUM}">{navlinks.FORUM_NAME}</a><!-- END navlinks --></p></ul>"
16:56 <HyperDrive> theres the bastard :P
16:56 <guru3> aahhh it was hidden in there
16:56 <HyperDrive> i was just going to say "whats the code for it"
16:57 <HyperDrive> my work here is done XD
16:57 <HyperDrive> cu all, good luck with what ever you are working on
16:57 -!- HyperDrive [n=chatzill@5ac2536e.bb.sky.com] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011913]"]
17:02 <Vanhayes> .weather e5n 5c5
17:02 <tronner> Vanhayes: The current temperature in Hampton High School, Hampton, New Brunswick is -1.6°C (1:02 PM ADT on March 20, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 255%. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.51 in 1033.1 hPa (Falling).
17:03 <Vanhayes> yay, this one is metric
17:03 -!- nsh22 [n=neal@unaffiliated/nsh22] has joined #armagetron
17:03 <nsh22> lunch break :P
17:04 <nsh22> smoothice: hows the rewrite goin?
17:04 <Vanhayes> nsh22, are you at work right now?
17:04 <nsh22> no, im at home doing homework
17:05 <Vanhayes> oh, homework, fun
17:05 <PinkTomato> .weather Brighton, UK
17:05 <tronner> PinkTomato: The current temperature in Preston Park, Brighton, United Kingdom is 10.4°C (4:05 PM GMT on March 20, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.43 in 1030.4 hPa (Rising).
17:05 <PinkTomato> feels warmer
17:05 <Vanhayes> msut be march break there now eh?
17:05 <nsh22> i have about 15 chapters of frankenstein due on monday
17:05 <nsh22> wiuth questions
17:05 <PinkTomato> not yet
17:05 <nsh22> it is for me
17:05 <nsh22> .weather innisfil
17:05 <tronner> nsh22: The current temperature in Innisfil, Innisfil, Ontario is -1.0°C (12:05 PM EDT on March 20, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: -16.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.47 in 1031.7 hPa (Steady).
17:06 <Vanhayes> ya its alot warmer than -1.6 here
17:06 <Vanhayes> tronner got it wrong
17:06 <nsh22> a cold front came through yesterday :(
17:07 <Vanhayes> hmm guess it is colder than that according to thermometer
17:07 <Vanhayes> looks really nice out anyways
17:18 <smoothice> nsh22: haven't even started lol
17:18 <smoothice> nsh22:gotta go have breakfast I'm starving
17:18 <PinkTomato> It feels warmer than 10 Celcius her
17:18 <PinkTomato> .weather Oxford, UK
17:18 <tronner> PinkTomato: The current temperature in Oxford, United Kingdom is 15.4°C (4:14 PM GMT on March 20, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1017.5 hPa (Falling).
17:18 <smoothice> .g 10 centigrade in fahrenheit
17:18 <tronner> smoothice: Fahrenheit and Celsius (Centigrade) Scales — Infoplease.com: <http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0001731.html>; Fahrenheit Centigrade Scale: <http://www.dia.org/education/Egypt-teachers/mathsci/wilson/scale.htm>; WikiAnswers - What is 10 degrees Centigrade in Fahrenheit: <http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_10_degrees_Centigrade_in_Fahrenheit>
17:19 <PinkTomato> .g 10 C in F
17:19 <tronner> PinkTomato: Fahrenheit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit>; BBC Weather | London: <http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/8>; BBC Weather | Newcastle upon Tyne: <http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/10>
17:19 <smoothice> .g 10 C in F
17:19 <tronner> smoothice: Fahrenheit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit>; BBC Weather | London: <http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/8>; BBC Weather | Newcastle upon Tyne: <http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/10>
17:19 <smoothice> ...
17:19 <PinkTomato> #g 10 C in F
17:19 <smoothice> I don't know what temp 10 C is
17:19 <smoothice> armabot is gone
17:19 <PinkTomato> :'(
17:19 <smoothice> 10 degrees Celsius = 50 degrees Fahrenheit
17:19 <smoothice> Oh
17:19 <smoothice> feels warmer than that?
17:19 <PinkTomato> A little
17:19 <smoothice> you can wear shorts in 50
17:19 <PinkTomato> not anymore, lol
17:19 <smoothice> if it isn't windy
17:20 <PinkTomato> It's the coast, always windy :)
17:20 <smoothice> ooo lol
17:20 <smoothice> denver for me...
17:20 <smoothice> meh
17:20 <PinkTomato> well, not to bad today
17:20 <smoothice> oh
17:20 <nsh22> .g calc 10 cinf
17:20 <tronner> nsh22: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
17:20 <nsh22> .g calc 10 c in f
17:20 <smoothice> .g calc c in f
17:20 <tronner> nsh22: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
17:20 <tronner> smoothice: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
17:20 <smoothice> Lol...
17:20 <smoothice> .help g
17:20 <tronner> smoothice: (g <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "google $*".
17:20 <smoothice> ...
17:20 <PinkTomato> haha, I live inland for Uni, the seagulls annoy me
17:20 <smoothice> .google 10 celsius in fahrenheit
17:20 <nsh22> ]g 10 c in f
17:20 <tronner> smoothice: Temperature Conversion from Celsius to Fahrenheit: <http://www.321know.com/mea414x2.htm>; Temperature Conversion from Fahrenheit to Celsius: <http://www.321know.com/mea414x3.htm>; [pbs] Celsius-Fahrenheit conversion: <http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/pbs/2003-January/012460.html>
17:20 <smoothice> ..
17:20 <smoothice> w/e
17:21 <smoothice> bbs
17:21 <nsh22> [ce
17:21 <nsh22> pce
17:21 <smoothice> ]g 10 c in f
17:21 <smoothice> whatever
17:21 <smoothice> bbs
17:21 <nsh22> ljrbots not here either...
17:21 <Vanhayes> @g 10 c in f
17:21 <teabot> Vanhayes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit - Fahrenheit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
17:21 <nsh22> @g calc 10 c in f
17:21 <PinkTomato> #google 10c in f
17:21 <teabot> nsh22: http://calculator-converter.com/converter_c_to_f_celsius_to_fahrenheit_calculator.php - C to F Convert Celsius to Fahrenheit and Fahrenheit to Celsius ...
17:21 <Vanhayes> @google calc 10 c in f
17:21 <teabot> Vanhayes: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
17:21 <Vanhayes> boo
17:22 <nsh22> FAIL BOTS!
17:22 <PinkTomato> .math
17:22 <PinkTomato> @math
17:22 <nsh22> .list
17:22 <Vanhayes> hmm how do I unaway
17:22 <tronner> nsh22: Admin, Alias, Anonymous, AutoMode, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, Ctcp, CyborgName, Dict, ExternalControl, Filter, Format, Freenode, Games, Google, Herald, Insult, Internet, Karma, Lart, Later, Math, Misc, MoobotFactoids, Network, Nickometer, Owner, P4, Pastebin, Plugin, Praise, QGoogle, RSS, Reply, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Status, Stock, String, StringEncode, Supybot, Tail, Time, Todo, (1 more message)
17:22  * Vanhayes forgot
17:22 <nsh22> .more
17:22 <tronner> nsh22: Topic, Unix, User, Utilities, Weather, Web, Webserver, and Yahoo
17:22 <PinkTomato> Vanhayes: Well your talking so I guess your not away
17:22 <Vanhayes> it still shows me as away though
17:23  * PinkTomato didn't know about away in IRC
17:23 <nsh22> lmao
17:23 <nsh22> .ctcp
17:23 <nsh22> .ctcp PinkTomato
17:23 <PinkTomato> oi
17:23 <PinkTomato> Don't CTCP me :P
17:23 <nsh22> :P
17:23 <PinkTomato> I don't know what your doing :)
17:24 <Vanhayes> ha
17:24 <Vanhayes> its /back
17:24 <nsh22> im spying your comp
17:24 <nsh22> :P
17:24 <Vanhayes> he is haxoring you
17:24 <nsh22> lol
17:24 <nsh22> its just finding what your irc client is
17:24 <Vanhayes> shut everything down and pul the plugs
17:25 <nsh22> Vanhayes: shhhh
17:25 <PinkTomato> nsh22:  it's Pidgin
17:25 <nsh22> it said purple irc...
17:25 <Vanhayes> .ctcp
17:25 <PinkTomato> Purple IRC is the engine
17:25 <cpayan> .ctcp
17:25 <Vanhayes> .ctcp PinkTomato
17:25 <cpayan> oh
17:25 <PinkTomato> yr "unaffilated"..
17:25 <nsh22> .ctcp Vanhayes version
17:25 <cpayan> .ctcp cpayan
17:25 <cpayan> err
17:25 <nsh22> .ctcp Vanhayes
17:26 <cpayan> should i be finding anything out?
17:26 <nsh22> boo you too
17:26 <cpayan> .ctcp nsh22
17:26 <PinkTomato> It does nothing
17:26 <cpayan> heh, just for you nsh22 ?
17:26 <nsh22> .ctcp Vanhayes RAWR
17:26 <nsh22> cpayan: huh?
17:26 <PinkTomato>  cpayan /version [name]
17:26 <cpayan> well I'm not getting anything from .ctcp
17:26 <nsh22> ah, the bot is uber lagging
17:27 <nsh22> oh yeah
17:27 <cpayan> ruh roh
17:27 <PinkTomato> oh btw, I can see when you do that
17:27 <nsh22> thx Vanhayes
17:27 <cpayan> yea?
17:27 <PinkTomato> it's rather silly and annyoying :P
17:27 <nsh22> its slash... and PinkTomato , we know
17:27 <Vanhayes> you are supposed to use /ctcp
17:27 <PinkTomato> boo to you too
17:27 <cpayan> xchat on windows :)
17:27 <Vanhayes> * Received a CTCP VERSION from nsh22
17:27 <Vanhayes> * Received a CTCP VERSION from cpayan
17:27 <Vanhayes> x chat 2
17:27 <nsh22> i know
17:27 <PinkTomato> Vanhayes: /version works though...
17:28 <smoothice> back!
17:28 <smoothice> hello world!
17:28 <nsh22> cpayan: is running ubuntu with xchat
17:28 <cpayan> :)
17:28 <smoothice> .ctcp smoothice
17:28 <smoothice> .ctcp smoothice
17:28 <Vanhayes> use /
17:28 <nsh22> smoothice:
17:28 <nsh22> what he said
17:28 <cpayan> xchat on windows is pretty popular, huh
17:28 <nsh22> yeash
17:28 <PinkTomato>  /ctcp fails anyway
17:28 <smoothice> Vanhayes CTCP REPLY 
VERSION xchat 2.8.6-2 Windows XP [Intel Pentium 4/2.79GHz]

17:28 <Vanhayes> its the best free one ive found
17:28 <PinkTomato> does not work
17:28 <smoothice> I use Colloquy
17:29 <smoothice> .g Colloquy
17:29 <tronner> smoothice: Colloquy: IRC, SILC & ICB Client: <http://colloquy.info/>; Colloquy: Downloads: <http://colloquy.info/downloads.html>; Loyalty Marketing, Reward Programs and Customer Loyalty: COLLOQUY: <http://www.colloquy.com/>
17:29 <Vanhayes> not alot of choice for windows
17:29 <PinkTomato> anyways
17:29 <PinkTomato> to be gone I am.
17:29 <smoothice> http://colloquy.info/
17:29 <PinkTomato> byebye
17:29 <smoothice> to be gone PinkTomato goes
17:29 <smoothice> lol
17:29 <nsh22> bb
17:29 <smoothice> so nsh22
17:29 <smoothice> wassup dogg?
17:29 <smoothice> LO!L
17:29 <nsh22> oui?
17:29 -!- PinkTomato [n=sam@5aca0671.bb.sky.com] has quit ["Leaving."]
17:29 <nsh22> never again
17:29 <smoothice> lo
17:29 <smoothice> lol
17:29 <smoothice> you're like
17:29 <smoothice> JUst... don't do that
17:29 <smoothice> lol
17:30 <cpayan> any of you use Wordpress, btw?
17:30 <smoothice> yes
17:30 <Concord> ya
17:30 <Vanhayes> hmm isnt that what playfortress is?
17:30 <Vanhayes> @g playfortress
17:30 <teabot> Vanhayes: http://playfortress.wordpress.com/ - Play Fortress
17:30 <cpayan> Is there anything you guys would think would make theme development easier?
17:31 <smoothice> no
17:31 <nsh22> -smoothice- bartol.freenode.net <YOU SUCK LOL!>
17:31 <cpayan> heh
17:31 <nsh22> FAIL!
17:31 <cpayan> really, nothing.
17:31 <smoothice> Flex's One Man Team of Extraordinary Capabilities "I'm getting fed up with this orgasm!" (Flex)
17:31 <smoothice> wow
17:31 <nsh22> lmao
17:31 <Vanhayes> ?
17:31 <smoothice> Team List
17:31 <smoothice> Please post your team name and the players who will play for your team below. If you're confused on how to do so, look at the examples below. You may also wish to create a wiki page for your team. The teams will be randomly selected for slot #s on the Saturday before the Ladle.
17:31 <smoothice> Flex's One Man Team of Extraordinary Capabilities "I'm getting fed up with this orgasm!" (Flex)
17:32 <smoothice> SURRENDER!
17:32 <nsh22> smoothice: where you find that>?
17:32 <smoothice> Vanhayes: PUT YOUr HANDS UP!
17:33 <Vanhayes> never!
17:33  * Vanhayes makes a run for it
17:33 <smoothice> @lmgtfy nsh22 Ladle Challenge Board wiki armagetronad
17:33 <nsh22> fail
17:33 <smoothice> ...
17:33 <smoothice> .g Ladle Challenge Board wiki armagetronad
17:33 <tronner> smoothice: Ladle/Challenge Board - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Ladle/Challenge_Board>; Ladle/Challenge Board/16 - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Ladle/Challenge_Board/16>; Armagetron Forums :: View topic - Old challenge boards: <http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=203092>
17:33 <nsh22> @gtfy smoothice how to use lmgtfy
17:33 <teabot> smoothice: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=how%20to%20use%20lmgtfy
17:33 <smoothice> ...
17:33 <smoothice> screw
17:33 <nsh22> :P
17:33 <smoothice> nsh22: #armagetron-0.3-sty
17:34 <smoothice> nsh22: ownded
17:34 <nsh22> ... how did i know that was coming...
17:34 <smoothice> No idea
17:34 <smoothice> :P
17:34 <Vanhayes> bbl
17:34 <smoothice> ok Vanhayes
17:34 -!- Vanhayes [n=Ping@CPE0013f7c4ff79-CM0013f7c4ff75.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit ["Leaving"]
17:36 <smoothice> .kick nsh22
17:36 <smoothice> screw
17:36 <Concord> #ls ct_emmy
17:37 <ivantis2> #ls ARMABOT IS GONE!
17:37 <smoothice> yeah concord
17:37 <smoothice> gosh
17:37 <smoothice> you know what
17:37 <smoothice> I have an idea
17:37 <ivantis2> i need to write a bot that whenever someone starts a line with #, it says to them "... she's gone. :("
17:40 <nsh22> .ls armabot
17:40 <nsh22> @ls armabot
17:40 <tronner> nsh22: timed out
17:40 <teabot> nsh22: timed out
17:40 <nsh22> FAIL!
17:40 <nsh22> @seen ljrbot
17:40 -!- armabot [n=supybot@97-118-163-230.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #armagetron
17:41 <nsh22> YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYYAYAYAYAYAY!
17:41 <nsh22> #ls armabot
17:41 <armabot> nsh22: Error: "ls" is not a valid command.
17:41 <nsh22> ivantis2: i that ur bot?
17:41 <smoothice> .help si
17:41 <tronner> smoothice: (si <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "reply [sc [fetch [concat http://78.46.226.238:7899/grid/serverdetails.php?name= [urlquote $*]]]]".
17:41 <smoothice> holy frick
17:41 <nsh22> #si
17:41 <armabot> nsh22: Error: "si" is not a valid command.
17:42 <smoothice> .help ls
17:42 <tronner> smoothice: (ls <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "lastseen $*".
17:42 <smoothice> .help lastseen
17:42 <tronner> smoothice: (lastseen <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/lastseen.php?player=@1+@2+@3+@4+@5+@6+@7+@8+@9".
17:42 <ivantis2> ...thats not her
17:42 <nsh22> i noticed...
17:42 <ivantis2> obviously
17:42 <smoothice> .alias add ls fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/lastseen.php?player=@1+@2+@3+@4+@5+@6+@7+@8+@9
17:42 <nsh22> wrtlprnft: when will armabot be back (for real)?
17:42 <smoothice> #alias add ls fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/lastseen.php?player=@1+@2+@3+@4+@5+@6+@7+@8+@9
17:42 <armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
17:42 <smoothice> #ls neal~nw
17:42 <armabot> smoothice: Error: This command is disabled (supybot.plugins.Web.fetch.maximum is set to 0).
17:42 <ivantis2> because her dns is always the same as wrtlprnfts
17:42 <smoothice> ...
17:43 <nsh22> .ls smoothice
17:43 <tronner> nsh22: +|SmOoThice~NW has last been seen on  ~Night Walker's Central~Fortress~ 25 minutes ago.
17:43 <ivantis2> cablesurf.de
17:43 <smoothice> #help config
17:43 <armabot> smoothice: (config <name> [<value>]) -- If <value> is given, sets the value of <name> to <value>. Otherwise, returns the current value of <name>. You may omit the leading "supybot." in the name if you so choose.
17:43 <nsh22> .seen smoothice
17:43 <tronner> nsh22: smoothice was last seen in #armagetron 5 seconds ago: <smoothice> #help config
17:43 <nsh22> :P
17:43 <smoothice> #config supybot.plugins.Web.fetch.maximum 100
17:43 <armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
17:43 <nsh22> .seen armabot
17:43 <tronner> nsh22: armabot was last seen in #armagetron 0 seconds ago: <armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
17:43 <smoothice> #ls neal~nw
17:43 <armabot> smoothice: Neal~NW has last been seen on  ~Night Walker's Central~Fortress~ 2 hours 13 minutes ago.
17:43 <nsh22> :P
17:44 <smoothice> #ignore BabyBug
17:44 <armabot> smoothice: Error: "ignore" is not a valid command.
17:44 <smoothice> #version
17:44 <armabot> smoothice: The current (running) version of this Supybot is 0.83.3.  The newest version available online is 0.83.3.
17:44 <smoothice> #help ignore
17:44 <armabot> smoothice: Error: There is no command "ignore".
17:44 <smoothice> #list
17:44 <armabot> smoothice: Admin, Alias, Anonymous, Channel, Config, Format, Games, Internet, Math, Misc, News, Owner, RSS, Seen, String, Time, Topic, User, and Web
17:44 <smoothice> #list Admin
17:44 <armabot> smoothice: capability add, capability remove, channels, ignore add, ignore list, ignore remove, join, nick, and part
17:44 <smoothice> #ignore add BabyBug
17:44 <armabot> smoothice: Error: The command "ignore add" is available in the Admin and Channel plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "ignore add".
17:44 <BabyBug> Do you really have to spam the channel with it?
17:45 <smoothice> #channel ignore BabyBug
17:45 <armabot> smoothice: Error: 'supybot.ignore' is not a valid configuration variable.
17:45 <smoothice> #Admin Ignore BabyBug
17:45 <armabot> smoothice: Error: The "Admin" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "Ignore" in it.  Try "list Admin" to see the commands in the "Admin" plugin.
17:45 <smoothice> oh who gives a crap
17:45 <smoothice> #quit
17:45 -!- armabot [n=supybot@97-118-163-230.hlrn.qwest.net] has quit [Client Quit]
17:46 -!- Vanhayes [n=Ping@CPE0013f7c4ff79-CM0013f7c4ff75.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #armagetron
17:46 <smoothice> .say hi
17:46 <cpayan> i hate when everyone just leaves the Mud Puddle
17:47 <smoothice> those servers are yours?
17:47 <cpayan> no
17:47 <Vanhayes> >si
17:47 <Vanhayes> .si
17:47 <tronner> Vanhayes: There doesn\'t seem to be a server matching “(urlquote” at the moment, sorry.
17:47 <nsh22> i find it funny when like 3-5 ppl leave at once
17:47 <cpayan> but i play there quite a bit, like just now. and out of nowhere everyone just leaves.
17:47 <Vanhayes> @si
17:47 <cpayan> yea, 3 people
17:47 <teabot> Vanhayes: Usage: #serverdetails [-v] {name}
17:47 <cpayan> i was just sitting there with 7 points and no one to play
17:47 <nsh22> lol
17:49 <Vanhayes> this pc doesnt like arma very much, the wireless makes everyone go straight then it returns to normal and I died from hitting rim wall
17:49 <smoothice> fail
17:49 <smoothice> PC?
17:49 <smoothice> does that mean Windows?
17:49 <smoothice> FAIL!
17:49 <cpayan> so smoothice what I was thinking about was making a didactic kind of theme framework that would go out with Wordpress, so that people could base their themes off it.
17:49  * Vanhayes might get a brand new computer soon
17:50 <Vanhayes> or a new car
17:50 <nsh22> computer...
17:50 <smoothice> cpayan: sounds cool
17:50 <nsh22> is it going to be worth a car?
17:50 <Vanhayes> though in the last year ive gone thru 2 cars so i might try my luck with computer
17:50 <nsh22> lmao, how?
17:50 <ivantis2> i want to get a new computer soon
17:51 <ivantis2> i'm saving up
17:51 <smoothice> I often LMAO at NEAL who like to PLAY with my MIND
17:51 <smoothice> LMAO NEAL PLAY MIND
17:51 <nsh22> ???
17:51 <Vanhayes> my $6000 2002 cavalier crashed into a 97 civic
17:51 <nsh22> sux
17:51 <Vanhayes> lets just say i thought the light was yellow
17:51 <ivantis2> it drove itself into a civic?
17:51 <Vanhayes> I thought wrong
17:51 <nsh22> lmao...
17:51 <cpayan> I was wondering if you could think of anything that should be included. Right now what I'm thinking is that it (obviously) includes all the basic php files of the template hierarchy, and uses as much of the Theme API as possible. Widget ready areas, and all would be there, of course, and not make it fixed width, as well as having as few graphics as possible.
17:52 <smoothice> hgmmm
17:52 <cpayan> i suppose this is ptobably the wrong place, but hey, they're talking about Civics
17:52 <ivantis2> making a wordpress theme?
17:52 <Vanhayes> then my $600 97 taurus crapped out one too many times for me to keep it, let alone drive 6000 KM in it
17:52 <smoothice> KM?
17:52 <Vanhayes> kilometres
17:53 <nsh22> Vanhayes: ive done that (not the crash though). i went into an intersection when it wa green and went from gereen to yellow then red before i turned :P
17:53 <Vanhayes> what everyone but the americans use to judge distances
17:53 <nsh22> lol
17:53 <nsh22> thats cuz americans fail at meausreing
17:53 <smoothice> @g one kilometer in miles
17:53 <ivantis2> cpayan, you are making a wordpress theme? for what?
17:53 <Vanhayes> well I just got back from a huge road trip into the states and barely had any sleep, then worked 10 hours so I was pretty much a zombie
17:53 <ivantis2> .calc 1 KM in MI
17:54 <tronner> ivantis2: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
17:54 <nsh22> smoothice:  1 mile = 2.44 km i think
17:54 <cpayan> Theme Framework was on the ideas page for Wordpress re gsoc
17:54 <nsh22> but dont quote me on it
17:54 <nsh22> any1 here have op?
17:54 <Vanhayes> @calc 1 KM in M
17:54 <teabot> Vanhayes: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
17:54 <nsh22> BabyBug: can you invite ljrbot to come in here?
17:54 <ivantis2> miles is mi
17:54 <Vanhayes> you bots are inferior to armabot
17:55 <ivantis2> BabyBug doesnt have op
17:55 <smoothice> luke-jr: get ljrbot in here punk
17:55 <smoothice> luke-jr: LOL!
17:55 <smoothice> yo Vanhayes doog
17:55 <Vanhayes> @last from armabot
17:55 <teabot> Vanhayes: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; --nolimit (1 more message)
17:55 <Vanhayes> yo
17:56 <Vanhayes> @last --from armabot
17:56 <teabot> Vanhayes: [09:45:16] <armabot> smoothice: Error: The "Admin" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "Ignore" in it.  Try "list Admin" to see the commands in the "Admin" plugin.
17:56 <smoothice> LOL
17:56 <smoothice> @last --from luke-jr
17:56 <Vanhayes> @seen armabot
17:56 <Vanhayes> @ping
17:56 <teabot> pong
17:56 <smoothice> .dns CPE0013f7c4ff79-CM0013f7c4ff75.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com
17:56 <tronner> smoothice: 99.246.244.252
17:57 <Vanhayes> .seen armabot
17:57 <tronner> Vanhayes: armabot was last seen in #armagetron 11 minutes and 53 seconds ago: <armabot> smoothice: Error: The "Admin" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "Ignore" in it.  Try "list Admin" to see the commands in the "Admin" plugin.
17:57 <smoothice> .ping
17:57 <tronner> pong
17:57 <Vanhayes> ?
17:57 <Vanhayes> 11 minutes ago?
17:57 <smoothice> @ping
17:57 <smoothice> .ping
17:57 <tronner> pong
17:57 <smoothice> @pin
17:57 <smoothice> @Ping
17:57 -!- L [n=x-javach@dhcp-077-251-115-079.chello.nl] has joined #armagetron
17:57 <smoothice> @PING?
17:57 <smoothice> @DO you IGNORE ME?
17:57 <smoothice> @ping?
17:58 <Vanhayes> that makes no sense how was armabot here 11 minutes ago?
17:58 <Vanhayes> @ping
17:58 <teabot> pong
17:58 <Vanhayes> ha
17:58 <smoothice> @Pinf
17:58 <smoothice> @Ping
17:58 <nsh22> Vanhayes: it wasnt actually her, some copy
17:58 <smoothice> @ping
17:58 <smoothice> her?
17:58 <smoothice> Wtf?
17:58 <nsh22> armabot is a se
17:58 <nsh22> she*
17:58 <smoothice> you must be too
17:58 <smoothice> knew it
17:58 <nsh22> ???
17:58 <Vanhayes> armabot is the sexiest bot
17:58 <nsh22> its her makers words so
17:59 <smoothice> *facepalm*
17:59 <smoothice> .
17:59 <smoothice> ....
17:59 <smoothice> -.-
17:59 <smoothice> tronner is the awesomest bot ever
17:59 <smoothice> beats armabot any day
17:59 <Vanhayes> .list google
17:59 <tronner> Vanhayes: cache, calc, fight, google, lucky, phonebook, and translate
17:59 <ivantis2> now we are talking about bots that way?
17:59 <nsh22> no, its the sorriest boit ever cuz it has ops in youtr gay channel
17:59 <smoothice> .calc 1 c in f
17:59 <tronner> smoothice: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
17:59 <ivantis2> first it was OSes
17:59 <Vanhayes> .google fight smoothice nsh22
17:59 -!- P4 [n=P4@unaffiliated/p4] has quit [Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)]
17:59 <tronner> Vanhayes: smoothice: 8190, nsh22: 63
17:59 <smoothice> owned?
17:59 <nsh22> ???
18:00 <ivantis2> "Vista doesn't have the kind of boobs that KDE has." --Lucifer
18:00 <Vanhayes> smaller is better, more unique
18:00 <Vanhayes> .google fight Vanhayes nsh22
18:00 -!- P4 [n=P4@esr.rootnode.net] has joined #armagetron
18:00 <smoothice> ivantis2: LOL
18:00 <tronner> Vanhayes: Vanhayes: 239, nsh22: 63
18:00 <nsh22> .help google gight
18:00 <Vanhayes> hmm, most of those are probably me
18:00 <smoothice> hey folks
18:00 <smoothice> everyone
18:00 <smoothice> listen
18:00 <Vanhayes> no
18:00 <smoothice> Listening?
18:00 <Vanhayes> never
18:00 <smoothice> get this
18:00 <smoothice> you all SUCK!
18:00 <smoothice> LOL!!!!!!
18:01  * Vanhayes wasnt listening
18:01 <smoothice> did someone say something?
18:01 <Vanhayes> .google fight armagetron gltron
18:01 <smoothice> nsh22: ?
18:01 <tronner> Vanhayes: armagetron: 16800, gltron: 4020
18:01 <Vanhayes> oh ya
18:01 <smoothice> .google fight iPod Zune
18:01 <tronner> smoothice: iPod: 40300000, Zune: 2000000
18:01 <Vanhayes> saw that one
18:01 <smoothice> .google fight Apple Microsoft
18:01 <tronner> smoothice: Microsoft: 88500000, Apple: 63500000
18:01 <smoothice> .google fight KDE GNOME
18:01 <tronner> smoothice: GNOME: 4160000, KDE: 1120000
18:01 <ivantis2> .google fight ivantis smoothice
18:01 <Vanhayes> .google fight Canada USA
18:01 <tronner> ivantis2: smoothice: 8190, ivantis: 2180
18:01 <smoothice> .google fight Poop Shit
18:01 <tronner> Vanhayes: USA: 144000000, Canada: 113000000
18:01 <tronner> smoothice: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
18:01 <ivantis2> what?
18:01 <smoothice> LOLL!!!!!
18:02 <smoothice> .google fight Poop Shit
18:02 <tronner> smoothice: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
18:02 <smoothice> fail
18:02 <Vanhayes> .google fight up down
18:02 <tronner> Vanhayes: up: 2950000000, down: 169000000
18:02 <ivantis2> .google fight ivantis armabot
18:02 <tronner> ivantis2: ivantis: 2180, armabot: 34
18:02 <smoothice> .google McCain Obama
18:02 <Vanhayes> .google armabot
18:02 <ivantis2> ownd
18:02 <tronner> smoothice: Obama vs. McCain: <http://obama-mccain.info/>; RealClearPolitics - Election 2008 - General Election: McCain vs. Obama: <http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html>; McCain and Obama - New York Times: <http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/08/opinion/08brooks.html>
18:02 <tronner> Vanhayes: Blogger: User Profile: Armabot: <http://www.blogger.com/profile/06881926230634763075>; "Transformer" arma-bot éxitos piso de exhibición: <http://www.chipdouro.com/es/uncategorized/transformer-gun-bot-hits-showroom-floor.html/>; Engadget: <http://www.engadget.com/profile/1219835/>
18:02 <smoothice> lol!
18:02 <ivantis2> .google fight mccain obama
18:02 <tronner> ivantis2: obama: 51200000, mccain: 10700000
18:02 <ivantis2> ownd
18:03 <smoothice> y'all got owned
18:03 <Vanhayes> .google fight "stephen Harper" "Barrack Obama"
18:03 <tronner> Vanhayes: stephen Harper: 2920000, Barrack Obama: 225000
18:03 <Vanhayes> oh ya
18:03 <smoothice> .google fight "Innisfil" "Chicago"
18:03 <tronner> smoothice: Chicago: 45000000, Innisfil: 246000
18:03 <smoothice> owned
18:04 <smoothice> .weather innisfil
18:04 <tronner> smoothice: The current temperature in Innisfil, Innisfil, Ontario is 0.1°C (1:04 PM EDT on March 20, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 31%. Dew Point: -15.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.47 in 1031.7 hPa (Falling).
18:04 <Vanhayes> .google fight "saint john" innisfil
18:04 <tronner> Vanhayes: saint john: 23400000, innisfil: 246000
18:04 <Vanhayes> good ol bot spam
18:04 <Vanhayes> .ignore
18:05 <Vanhayes> well done
18:05 <smoothice> hi
18:05 <smoothice> .hi
18:05 <tronner> Hello :) [q]
18:05 <smoothice> hi tronner!
18:05 <Vanhayes> .q
18:05 <smoothice> tronner: hi dude!
18:05 <tronner> Hello dude! :) [q]
18:05 <smoothice> .love
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18:06 <Vanhayes> .quote
18:06 <tronner> Vanhayes: (quote <company symbol>) -- Gets the information about the current price and change from the previous day of a given company (represented by a stock symbol).
18:07 <Vanhayes> er
18:07 <Vanhayes> .quote apple
18:07 <smoothice> .quote AAPL
18:07 <tronner> smoothice: The current price of AAPL is 101.81, as of 12:52pm EST.  A change of +0.19 from the last business day.
18:07 <smoothice> .quote msft
18:07 <tronner> smoothice: The current price of MSFT is 17.352, as of 12:52pm EST.  A change of +0.212 from the last business day.
18:07 <smoothice> fail...
18:07 <smoothice> howthemarketworks.com
18:07 <smoothice> very ful
18:07 <smoothice> fun
18:07 <Vanhayes> .list
18:07 <tronner> Vanhayes: Admin, Alias, Anonymous, AutoMode, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, Ctcp, CyborgName, Dict, ExternalControl, Filter, Format, Freenode, Games, Google, Herald, Insult, Internet, Karma, Lart, Later, Math, Misc, MoobotFactoids, Network, Nickometer, Owner, P4, Pastebin, Plugin, Praise, QGoogle, RSS, Reply, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Status, Stock, String, StringEncode, Supybot, Tail, Time, Todo, (1 more message)
18:07 <smoothice> .help pastebin
18:07 <smoothice> .list Pastebin
18:07 <tronner> smoothice: That plugin exists, but has no commands.  This probably means that it has some configuration variables that can be changed in order to modify its behavior.  Try "config list supybot.plugins.Pastebin" to see what configuration variables it has.
18:08 <Vanhayes> .google fight car computer
18:08 <tronner> Vanhayes: computer: 137000000, car: 118000000
18:08 <smoothice> config list supybot.plugins.Pastebin
18:08 <smoothice> .config list supybot.plugins.Pastebin
18:08 <tronner> smoothice: address, announce, channel, defaultPort, public, and recentPasteCount
18:08 <Vanhayes> hmm
18:08 <smoothice> .google fight "economic crisis" "global warming"
18:08 <tronner> smoothice: economic crisis: 37700000, global warming: 7430000
18:08 <smoothice> ...
18:08 <smoothice> .google fight "Economy" "climate change"
18:08 <tronner> smoothice: Economy: 43400000, climate change: 17600000
18:08 <smoothice> ...
18:09 <Vanhayes> .google fight war depression
18:09 <tronner> Vanhayes: war: 89000000, depression: 14400000
18:09 <smoothice> .google fight Vanhayes smoothice
18:09 <tronner> smoothice: smoothice: 8190, Vanhayes: 239
18:09 <Vanhayes> .google fight "nuclear war" "Conventional war"
18:09 <tronner> Vanhayes: nuclear war: 24000000, Conventional war: 11000000
18:09 <Vanhayes> we are all going to die
18:09 <smoothice> .google fight "World War II" "World War I"
18:09 <tronner> smoothice: World War I: 115000000, World War II: 46600000
18:09 <smoothice> that's interesting
18:09 <smoothice> I would have thought otherwise
18:10 <Vanhayes> same
18:10 -!- L [n=x-javach@dhcp-077-251-115-079.chello.nl] has quit ["webirc@xclan.armagetron.co.uk"]
18:10 <nsh22> BabyBug: kcik please :P
18:10 <smoothice> Nsh22; cannot
18:10 <Vanhayes> .google fight "world war 2" "world war 3"
18:10 <BabyBug> i can't bloody kick without armabot
18:10 <tronner> Vanhayes: world war 3: 127000000, world war 2: 105000000
18:10 <smoothice> babybug had armabot Op
18:10 <smoothice> BabyBug: cause u fail
18:10 <smoothice> tronner: owned
18:10 <tronner> smoothice: I haven't seen anyone matching “řwned@crazy-tronners.com” yet, sorry.
18:10 <BabyBug> smoothice, actually guru3 is the fail
18:10 <nsh22> then get tronner or teabot op
18:11 <BabyBug> nsh22, why do you assume i have authority with things like that?! :P
18:11 <smoothice> BabyBug: #armagetron-0.3-sty
18:11 <nsh22> ... i meant register and get the owner to give you op
18:11 <Vanhayes> i miss armabot
18:11 <nsh22> i do too
18:11 <BabyBug> nsh22, someone still needs to give the bot op.
18:11 <smoothice> nsh22: tronner set a ban on *!*@unaffiliated/nsh22.
18:11 <nsh22> i hate you smooth,and i havent even check the channel
18:12 <smoothice> Lol
18:12 <ivantis2> so does ivantis
18:12 <smoothice> lol
18:12 <nsh22> smoothice: your a prick
18:12 <smoothice> ...
18:12 <smoothice> nsh22: I can leave tron in a flash
18:12 <smoothice> nsh22: I can disappear
18:12 <nsh22> YAY!
18:12 <BabyBug> Then do it
18:12 <smoothice> nsh22: all comm with me could be shut off
18:13 <ivantis2> you know how much i would hate that?
18:13 <smoothice> None
18:13 <ivantis2> i hate losing someone
18:13 <nsh22> smoothice: i like you as a fiend on tron, but...
18:13 -!- joda_bot [n=anonymou@dslb-084-061-072-003.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #armagetron
18:13 <nsh22> friend*
18:13 <epsy> zzz
18:13 <smoothice> nsh22: ...
18:13 <ivantis2> heh, fiend
18:13 <nsh22> FIEND!
18:13 <smoothice> nsh22: tronner removed the ban on *!*@unaffiliated/nsh22
18:13 <nsh22> cokeaddict
18:14 <nsh22> smoothice: idc, im not going back, your channel can die
18:14 <nsh22> :P
18:14 <epsy> /mode +b *!*@unaffialated/*
18:14 <epsy> oops
18:14 <epsy> lol
18:14 <smoothice> why would I do that
18:14 -!- wireddd [n=wired@unaffiliated/wireddd] has quit [Success]
18:14 <epsy> /mode +b *!*@unaffiliated/*
18:14 <ivantis2> im getting so much work right now, writing stuff isnt even fun now
18:14 <smoothice> nsh22: aww w/e I'm leaving
18:14 -!- smoothice [n=smoothic@unaffiliated/smoothice] has quit ["void smoothice::leave();"]
18:15 <nsh22> ivantis2: ill say it a gain, who cares
18:15 <ivantis2> me
18:15 <ivantis2> me
18:15 <ivantis2> ?
18:15 <nsh22> your a singular being in a community that acts like a whole, gtfo now or die
18:15 <ivantis2>  
18:15 <ivantis2> wtf does shift+return do in xchat aqua
18:15 <nsh22> :P
18:15 <epsy> you're *
18:15 <ivantis2> oh makes it multiple lines
18:16 <nsh22> epsy: ...........................
18:16 <epsy> otherwise I support you
18:16 <nsh22> :P
18:17 <nsh22> ivantis2: you're a singular being in a community that acts like a whole, gtfo now or die
18:17 <nsh22> epsy: better?
18:17 <epsy> better
18:17 <cpayan> lol
18:17 <nsh22> yay
18:17 <ivantis2> ]
18:18 <ivantis2> [
18:18 <ivantis2> \
18:18 <ivantis2> '
18:18 <ivantis2> ;
18:18 <ivantis2> ?
18:18 <epsy> oh there's a fort game going on
18:18 <nsh22> @tea
18:18 <teabot> nsh22: Fortress Café: Players (7/32): michala loves ?, mud, Nikk¦A¦, O--->, Slëëpÿ, Win32, WithGlasses
18:18 <cpayan> there's a true grammar nazi, ideologically and grammatically
18:18 <ivantis2> @toast
18:18 <nsh22> and thereas a true idiot ^^
18:18 <nsh22> cpayan: not you...
18:18 <ivantis2> and theres a true genius <--
18:18 <cpayan> @butter
18:19 <ivantis2> @jam
18:19 <cpayan> @eggs
18:19 <nsh22> ivantis2: i was pointing at you dolt
18:19 <nsh22> @spam
18:19 <cpayan> ew
18:19 <cpayan> @bacon
18:19 <nsh22> as in YOUR SPAMMING THE CAHNNEL
18:19 <cpayan> you're
18:19 <epsy> you're
18:19 <ivantis2> did you know that hawaii is the state that consumes the most spam in the us?
18:19 <nsh22> ...
18:19 <Vanhayes> why do you know that?
18:19 <nsh22> as in YOU'RE SPAMMING THE CHANNEL
18:20 <ivantis2> i guess because there arent like, cows, living there
18:20 <nsh22> cuz hes a dolt
18:20 <cpayan> i'm not surprised, that stuff would have no problem with the voyage, which would be important a while ago
18:20 <ivantis2> its an important fact!
18:20 <ivantis2> it was on a history test once
18:20 <cpayan> also, didn't it start as military food?
18:20 <ivantis2> a few weeks ago
18:20 <nsh22> @google is ivantis2 a dolt
18:20 <teabot> nsh22: no results for: is ivantis2 a dolt
18:20 <cpayan> ouch
18:20 <nsh22> @8ball is ivantis2 a dolt
18:20 <teabot> nsh22: It is so.
18:20 <nsh22> HA
18:20 <cpayan> hah
18:21 <ivantis2> he left off not
18:21 <cpayan> you turn from algorithms to mysticism
18:21 <ivantis2> It is not so.
18:21 <cpayan> @8ball
18:21 <nsh22> HA
18:21 <teabot> cpayan: It is possible.
18:21 <nsh22> HA
18:21 <nsh22> @8ball is ivantis2 a dolt
18:21 <teabot> nsh22: One would be wise to think so.
18:21 <nsh22> @8ball is ivantis2 a dolt
18:21 <teabot> nsh22: The outlook is good.
18:21 <nsh22> @8ball is ivantis2 a dolt
18:21 <teabot> nsh22: Naturally.
18:21 <nsh22> @8ball is ivantis2 a dolt
18:21 <teabot> nsh22: The answer is certainly yes.
18:21 <cpayan> teabot just said nohting is possible
18:21 <nsh22> @8ball is ivantis2 a dolt
18:22 <teabot> nsh22: Obviously.
18:22 <cpayan> are they all positives...
18:22 <nsh22>  :P
18:22  * cpayan sigh
18:22 <nsh22> cpayan: SHHUUSH
18:22 <ivantis2> .8ball is nsh22 a moron?
18:22 <nsh22> @8ball is ivantis2 not a dolt
18:22 <teabot> nsh22: In your dreams.
18:22 <nsh22> :P
18:22 <cpayan> @8ball nsh22 is dumb as all get-out
18:22 <teabot> cpayan: No chance.
18:22 <cpayan> HAH!
18:22 <ivantis2> why do you have to be registered?
18:22 <nsh22> @8ball is ivantis2 not a dolt
18:22 <teabot> nsh22: I doubt it very much.
18:22 <nsh22> :P
18:23 <ivantis2> @8ball does nsh22 need to stfu?
18:23 <cpayan> @8ball say something positive
18:23 <teabot> cpayan: NO!
18:23 <nsh22> ivantis2: i think your ignored by teabot
18:23 <ivantis2> epsy, make it stop ignoring me :(
18:23 <epsy> you're
18:23 <nsh22> ffs epsy
18:23 <epsy> ffs nsh22
18:23 <epsy> it's basic grammar
18:23 <nsh22> YOU'R
18:23 <nsh22> YOU'Re*
18:24 <cpayan> sursly, just get it right, nsh22
18:24 <cpayan> They don't even mean the same thing.
18:24 <nsh22> YOU'RE a fail
18:24  * cpayan clap clap clap
18:24 <ivantis2> you're a moron
18:24 <nsh22> better?
18:24 <epsy> you're misusing a possessive for a pronoumn and a verb
18:24 <cpayan> i mean, fail doesn't belong there, but colloquially, it works
18:25 <nsh22> epsy: i know what i do wrong, but seriously...
18:25 <epsy> you don't seem to
18:26 <nsh22> im too lazy to add the e at the end, its aaaallll the way over there <=====
18:26 <cpayan> how big is your keyboard
18:26 <cpayan> ?
18:26 <nsh22> <=========================================================================This Big ===========================================================================================>
18:26 <ivantis2> look
18:26 <ivantis2> http://www.elance.com/php/search/main/eolsearch.php?matchType=profile#matchKeywords=%22Perl%22
18:27 <cpayan> @8ball is nsh22's keyboard that big?
18:27 <teabot> cpayan: The outlook is hazy, please ask again later.
18:27 <ivantis2> im on the first page of professionals in a search for Perl
18:27 <cpayan> @8ball is nsh22's keyboard that big?
18:27 <teabot> cpayan: Maybe...
18:27 <cpayan> ...
18:27 <cpayan> nice ivantis2
18:27 <nsh22> ivantis2: NOONE BUT YOU CARES!
18:27 <cpayan> @8ball is nsh22's keyboard that big?
18:27 <teabot> cpayan: The outlook is hazy, please ask again later.
18:27 <cpayan> ...
18:27 <nsh22> @8ball is my keyboard that big?
18:27 <teabot> nsh22: It is possible.
18:27  * cpayan throws a keyboard at teabot 
18:27 <nsh22> @8ball is my keyboard that big?
18:27 <teabot> nsh22: One would be wise to think so.
18:28 <nsh22> @8ball is my keyboard that big?
18:28 <teabot> nsh22: Yes!
18:28 <nsh22> :P
18:28 <cpayan> .....
18:28 -!- arrow [n=euclid@adsl-dyn40.78-99-184.t-com.sk] has joined #armagetron
18:28 <ivantis2> i've already made $137 on that website
18:28 <cpayan> I hate you sometime
18:28 <cpayan> elance? I need to start using it.
18:28 <cpayan> What kind of jobs do you pick up, anyway?
18:28 -!- Lackadaisical [n=lckdscl@ip202-29-210-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #armagetron
18:28 <ivantis2> my first job was making a wordpress plugin
18:29 <ivantis2> then that same client wanted me to do some other stuff
18:29 <ivantis2> i'm supposed to be working right now
18:29 <cpayan> o.O
18:29 <cpayan> @8ball is ivantis2 working?
18:29 <teabot> cpayan: What are you asking me for?
18:30 <ivantis2> but elance kind of stinks. they take a percent of your pay, and then charge you for a "premium" profile
18:30 <cpayan> sigh
18:30 <cpayan> that's pretty lame
18:30 <ivantis2> its like $10 a month
18:30 <cpayan> why am i getting attitude from the 8ball bot
18:30 <ivantis2> but i make enough to cover it
18:30 <cpayan> and what do you get from a "premium" profile?
18:30 <cpayan> $120 a year is pretty steep imho
18:31 <ivantis2> every time you bid on a job, it takes an amount of 'connects'. with the free profile,you get 3 connects/month
18:31 <ivantis2> with premium, you get 20/month
18:31 <ivantis2> and you get more keywords for your profile, some other stuff
18:31 <ivantis2> i have been a member since november
18:32 <cpayan> ah interesting. How are the clients that come to the site? Reasonable people, for the most part?
18:32 <ivantis2> but i just recently got my first job
18:32 <ivantis2> yeah, reasonable
18:32 <ivantis2> but a potential client yesterday asked me to do an impossible task
18:32 <ivantis2> and then got pissed with me because i couldnt do it
18:32 <nsh22> nothings impossib;e
18:33 <cpayan> yea, what did they ask?
18:33 <ivantis2> they gave me the root password to some servers, and just said "log in"
18:33 <ivantis2> no cpanel username
18:33 <ivantis2> they gave me the IPs, but SSH and FTP dont work with root anyway
18:33 <nsh22> ivantis2: maybe login name is "root"
18:34 <cpayan> or admin
18:34 <ivantis2> no it wasnt, i tried a bunch of stuff
18:34 <cpayan> anyway, how is that a task at all?
18:34 <ivantis2> they wanted me to get them a file off one of the servers
18:34 <cpayan> they just asked you to log in because... they forgot their username?
18:34 <ivantis2> then they said "if you knew linux well, you shouldve been able to log in"
18:35 <ivantis2> orly? you didnt fucking give me a username, just the root password
18:35 <cpayan> Sounds shady, anyway
18:35 <BabyBug> ivantis2, if they give you the root password, the username is root
18:36 <ivantis2> BabyBug, do i look stupid?
18:36 <epsy> LOL
18:36 <BabyBug> ivantis2, yes?
18:36 <cpayan> @8ball does ivantis2 look stupid
18:36 <teabot> cpayan: Unlikely.
18:36 <nsh22> ivantis2: VERY
18:36 <cpayan> i dunno, man
18:36 <ivantis2> root doesnt work directly because its considered unsafe to send root passwords over the internet
18:36 <ivantis2> but they didnt give me a regular user
18:36 <nsh22> did you TRY root?
18:37 <ivantis2> yes
18:37 <nsh22> ok then
18:37 <ivantis2> multiple times, on all 3 servers
18:37 <epsy> @quote add <BabyBug>: ivantis2, if they give you the root password, the username is root
18:37 <teabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.  Quote #10 added.
18:37 <nsh22> did you ask them for a usernamer?
18:37 <cpayan> lol
18:38  * cpayan obviously is the only one that's been paying attention to the conversation
18:38 <ivantis2> yeah, and then they said that i was unexperienced in linux because i couldnt use root directly
18:38 <BabyBug> epsy, you have to point out to obvious with people like ivantis2
18:38 <BabyBug> ivantis2, how about you PM me the IP and the password they give you? :)
18:38 <Vanhayes> @quote get 1
18:38 <teabot> Vanhayes: Quote #1: "<epsy> i dont have enough cocks yet" (added by xfroggy at 03:43 PM, August 17, 2008)
18:38 <Vanhayes> ...
18:38 <cpayan> :)
18:38 <ivantis2> BabyBug, i'll say it right here, i dont care
18:38 <Vanhayes> tell me that was taken out of context please
18:39 <BabyBug> ivantis2, fine do that :P
18:39 <cpayan> Vanhayes, he doesn't have enough to answer that, yet
18:39 <ivantis2> 204.15.74.162
18:39 <ivantis2> 72.44.69.146
18:39 <nsh22> @quote get 2
18:39 <teabot> nsh22: Quote #2: "<xfroggy> customer support is retared" (added by epsy at 07:51 AM, August 18, 2008)
18:39 <ivantis2> 66.152.176.194
18:39 <nsh22> @quote get 3
18:39 <teabot> nsh22: Quote #3: "<Lucifer> I've always wondered if someone went psycho and kicked everybody from the channel, how long would it take for the channel to repopulate?" (added by epsy at 10:56 AM, August 19, 2008)
18:39 <ivantis2> root password is MULTAmick999
18:40 <nsh22> @quote get 4
18:40 <teabot> nsh22: Quote #4: "<wireddd> assembly is a high level language as well" (added by epsy at 04:34 PM, August 25, 2008)
18:40 <nsh22> @quote get 5
18:40 <teabot> nsh22: Quote #5: "< epsy> what should i give sister for unzipping? xDDDDD" (added by xfroggy at 01:23 PM, August 26, 2008)
18:40 <nsh22> epsy: wtf?
18:40 <ivantis2> BabyBug, get all that?
18:40 <nsh22> @quote get 6
18:40 <teabot> nsh22: Quote #6: "<xfroggy> my impression of france: a lot of punks jumping on the roofs of funny little police cars and screaming random french words at everyone" (added by epsy at 06:05 AM, August 28, 2008)
18:40 <nsh22> @quote get 7
18:40 <teabot> nsh22: Quote #7: "<@hoax> man french chicks are hot <@hoax> how gay" (added by epsy at 09:19 AM, September 09, 2008)
18:41 <nsh22> @quote get 8
18:41 <teabot> nsh22: Quote #8: "<ivantis> okay, from now forth i wont bring any annoying bots of mine here" (added by epsy at 10:16 AM, October 18, 2008)
18:41 <nsh22> @quote get 9
18:41 <teabot> nsh22: Quote #9: "<Lucifer> we all live in the other submarine, the other submarine, the other submarine" (added by epsy at 01:53 PM, October 27, 2008)
18:41 <cpayan> "from now forth" ?
18:41 <epsy> from now on
18:41 <ivantis2> ivantis is a noob
18:41 <nsh22> he tried to use old english but failed
18:41 <cpayan> odd way to say it
18:42 <nsh22> HOMEWORK!
18:42 <nsh22> ....
18:42 <epsy> I think there's still one of his bots in #freenode
18:42 <nsh22> fucking frankenstein
18:42 <epsy> anyone cares to make it talk?
18:42 <ivantis2> ivantis3? yeah he has permission to be there
18:42 <BabyBug> what's its trigger?
18:43 <epsy> just use ivantis3:
18:43 <epsy> lol
18:44 <BabyBug> it's not even a supybot
18:44 <epsy> it used to be
18:44 <BabyBug> wont reply for a ctcp version
18:44 <epsy> maybe it's a bot that's crashing
18:44 <BabyBug> Unless ivantis made it ignore me
18:45 <cpayan> la di da
18:45 <nsh22> cpayan: lol
18:45 <ivantis2> ...
18:45 <ivantis2> supybots dont do ctcps
18:45 <ivantis2> noob
18:46 <ivantis2> and it is a supybot
18:46 -!- ljrbot [n=supybot-@2002:46bb:1a76:0:2b0:d0ff:fe49:6b31] has joined #Armagetron
18:46 <ivantis2> dont be dumb
18:46 <ljrbot> New news from armagetronadbzr: [themes] r10 beginning of dark version (Concord)... || [themes] r9 colors heading in the right directions... || [themes] beginning of dark version || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1101 Checking whether var directory exists before attempting to r... || [themes] r8 fixed most of checklist || [themes] r7 moved to proper directory... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r902 Store iterated game object in tJUST_CONT
18:46 <Vanhayes> tronner-tronner- VERSION Supybot 0.83.3
18:46 <ivantis2> ]ping
18:46 <nsh22> YAY!\
18:46 <nsh22> we have agood bot!
18:46 <Vanhayes> ]echo pong
18:46 <epsy> lol
18:46 <ljrbot> pong
18:46 <luke-jr> ivantis2: retard
18:46 <nsh22> luke-jr: am i still ignored?
18:47 <ivantis2> luke-jr, come on, make it unignore me
18:47 <Vanhayes> ]echo I dont like ivantis2
18:47 <ljrbot> I dont like ivantis2
18:47 <luke-jr> ]admin ignore remove nsh22
18:47 <ljrbot> luke-jr: Error: nsh22!n=neal@unaffiliated/nsh22 wasn't in the ignores database.
18:47 <nsh22> hmmm...
18:47 <Vanhayes> ]echo .ping
18:47 <ljrbot> .ping
18:47 <ivantis2> almost, but is ivantis2
18:48 <nsh22> luke-jr: isnt hat only for the bot?
18:48 <epsy> ivantis2, logging #freenode freely?
18:48 <ivantis2> epsy, i got permission
18:48 <ivantis2> and it isnt public
18:49 <ivantis2> maybe i shjould get out of bed now
18:49 <luke-jr> nsh22: duh?
18:49 <ivantis2> its almost 13:00 here
18:49 <nsh22> luke-jr: nvm :P
18:49 <BabyBug> ivantis2, what's ivantis3's trigger? :P
18:49 <Vanhayes> ew, you are still in bed at 1 o clock?
18:49 <nsh22> luke-jr: can you add e to th eyandere developers team?
18:49 <ivantis2> BabyBug, it doesnt have one
18:49 <BabyBug> ...
18:50 <ivantis2> so? i like "sleeping" in
18:50 <nsh22> BabyBug: try ivantis3: ping
18:50 <Vanhayes> 11 is sleeping in 1 is afternoon
18:50 <ivantis2> well, im getting up
18:50 -!- ivantis2 [n=ivantis@71.158.214.226] has quit ["Leaving"]
18:50 <epsy> victory
18:51 <nsh22> ]q
18:51 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: "q" is not a valid command.
18:51 <nsh22> ]quote get 1
18:51 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: There is no Quote with id #1 in my database for #armagetron.
18:51 <epsy> @q
18:51 <epsy> @alias add q quote random #arma.xclan
18:51 <teabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
18:51 <epsy> @q
18:51 <teabot> epsy: Quote #1: "<epsy> i dont have enough cocks yet" (added by xfroggy at 03:43 PM, August 17, 2008)
18:51 <nsh22> @q add
18:51 <teabot> nsh22: Quote #1: "<epsy> i dont have enough cocks yet" (added by xfroggy at 03:43 PM, August 17, 2008)
18:51 <epsy> it had nice factoids :(
18:52 <nsh22> @q help add
18:52 <teabot> nsh22: Quote #10: "<BabyBug>: ivantis2, if they give you the root password, the username is root" (added by epsy at 10:37 AM, March 20, 2009)
18:52 <epsy> @g BabyBug
18:52 <nsh22> @q help
18:52 <teabot> epsy: http://www.cricketmag.com/ProductDetail.asp?pid=10 - Babybug Magazine: The Award-Winning Magazine for infants and ...
18:52 <teabot> nsh22: Quote #4: "<wireddd> assembly is a high level language as well" (added by epsy at 04:34 PM, August 25, 2008)
18:52 <nsh22> @help quote
18:52 <teabot> nsh22: Error: There is no command "quote".
18:52 <ct|kyle> .google calc 10C in F
18:52 <tronner> ct|kyle: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
18:52 <nsh22> @help quote add
18:52 <teabot> nsh22: (quote add [<channel>] <text>) -- Adds <text> to the quote database for <channel>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
18:52 <ct|kyle> #ping
18:52 <nsh22> @quote add * ivantis2 has quit ("Leaving")
18:52 <nsh22>   <epsy> victory
18:52 <teabot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.  Quote #11 added.
18:53 <nsh22> @q 11
18:53 <teabot> nsh22: Quote #8: "<ivantis> okay, from now forth i wont bring any annoying bots of mine here" (added by epsy at 10:16 AM, October 18, 2008)
18:53 <nsh22> @q get 11
18:53 <teabot> nsh22: Quote #5: "< epsy> what should i give sister for unzipping? xDDDDD" (added by xfroggy at 01:23 PM, August 26, 2008)
18:53 <Vanhayes> ct|kyle, no armabot for #
18:53 <epsy> fail
18:53 <nsh22> @quote get 11
18:53 <teabot> nsh22: Quote #11: "* ivantis2 has quit ("Leaving")" (added by neal at 10:52 AM, March 20, 2009)
18:53 <nsh22> ...
18:53 <nsh22> @quote edit 11
18:53 <nsh22> @quote edit 11 * ivantis2 has quit ("Leaving")
18:53 <nsh22>  -epsy- victory
18:53 <Vanhayes> .quote help
18:54 <Vanhayes> .list quoote
18:54 <Vanhayes> .list quote
18:54 <nsh22> @quote remove 11
18:54 <teabot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
18:54  * teabot opens a text editor for nsh22
18:54 <nsh22> ?
18:54 <nsh22> @quote add * ivantis2 has quit  <epsy> victory
18:54 <teabot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.  Quote #12 added.
18:55 <nsh22> @quote get 12
18:55 <teabot> nsh22: Quote #12: "* ivantis2 has quit <epsy> victory" (added by neal at 10:54 AM, March 20, 2009)
18:55 <Vanhayes> .]q
18:55 <Vanhayes> ]q
18:55 <ljrbot> Vanhayes: Error: "q" is not a valid command.
18:55 <nsh22> kk im out
18:56 -!- nsh22 [n=neal@unaffiliated/nsh22] has left #armagetron ["shift-esc"]
18:56 <Vanhayes> .stats
18:56 <Vanhayes> .last --with stats --nolimit
18:56 <tronner> Vanhayes: [18:56:10] <Vanhayes> .stats, [14:23:28] <nsh22> a fullyty automatic would take the stats from the server..., and [13:44:58] <teabot> epsy: cache, calc, fight, lucky, meta, phonebook, spell, and stats
18:56 <epsy> Vanhayes, @
18:56 <Vanhayes> @stats
18:56 <teabot> Vanhayes: I have 10 registered users with 12 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 1 admin.
18:56 <Vanhayes> @ircstats
18:57 <epsy> @apropos stats
18:57 <teabot> epsy: Google stats, Quote stats, and User stats
18:57 <Vanhayes> @user stats
18:57 <teabot> Vanhayes: I have 10 registered users with 12 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 1 admin.
18:57 <Vanhayes> @google stats
18:57 <teabot> Vanhayes: This google module has made 0 searches total; 0 in the past 24 hours.  Google has spent 0.00 seconds searching for me.
18:57 <epsy> :o)
18:57 <Vanhayes> @google Vanhayes
18:57 <teabot> Vanhayes: http://www.facebook.com/people/Van-Hayes/523448291 - Van Hayes | Facebook
18:57 <Vanhayes> huh?
18:58 <epsy> lol!
18:58 <Vanhayes> ahaha not me i swear
18:58 <epsy> LOL
18:59 <BabyBug> Vanhayes, prove it! pics!
18:59 <Vanhayes> ok you caught me, I am actually an old man in a tub
18:59 <epsy> you first
18:59 <epsy> damn firefox/flash combo
18:59 <BabyBug> minors in the channel epsy :P
19:00 <epsy> firefox-bin: aucun processus tué
19:00 <epsy> DIE
19:00 <epsy> Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart your system.
19:00 <epsy> blablabla
19:00 <Vanhayes> who is a minor?
19:00 <epsy> BabyBug, who here said nude pics?
19:00 <BabyBug> epsy, that's all i have
19:01 <epsy> pervert
19:01 <Vanhayes> kinky
19:01 <joda_bot> heh, a server at university was hacked since 01.01.2009 ... :-|, now alot of people have to change their passwords
19:01 <BabyBug> that doesn't make me a eprv
19:01 <cpayan> Vanhayes, that's definitely you
19:01 <epsy> sure it does
19:01 <BabyBug> how does it?
19:02 <Vanhayes> lies
19:02 <Vanhayes> i dont have face book
19:02 <epsy> 1/ normal people don't make pictures of themselves nude
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19:02 <BabyBug> epsy, define "normal"
19:02 <epsy> not pervert
19:02 <Vanhayes> i make picture of certain parts nude
19:02 <epsy> OMG UR HANDZ R NUDE
19:02 <BabyBug> You're very closed off the outside world if you think "normal" people don't take nudey pics :P
19:03 <epsy> ah yeah, cause you make them outside also
19:03 <MrBougo> lol
19:04 <Vanhayes> btw if there is any pictures of people with the name van hayes, they arent me, that isnt my real name
19:04 <MrBougo> id say "normal" is linked to "average"
19:04 <MrBougo> "normal" would mean rather perv
19:04 <Vanhayes> anyways i dont think there are any minors here
19:04 <BabyBug> Vanhayes, of course there is..
19:04 <Vanhayes> who?
19:05 <BabyBug> epsy for one :P
19:05 <Vanhayes> well minor depends on where you live too
19:05 <MrBougo> hahaha Vanhayes you are winner
19:05 <Vanhayes> ?
19:05 <MrBougo> now to me you're "van hayes"
19:05 <Vanhayes> i swear that picture is not me
19:05 <MrBougo> I know
19:06 <MrBougo> but I swear I can't detach it from you, now
19:06 <Vanhayes> damnit, why did it have to be a fat redneck in a tub
19:06 <epsy> hahahaha
19:06 <MrBougo> hahaha
19:07 <Vanhayes> hmm seems there are a few van hayes
19:07 <Vanhayes> #google Van hayes
19:07 -!- arrow [n=euclid@adsl-dyn40.78-99-184.t-com.sk] has quit ["Leaving."]
19:07 <Vanhayes> @google Van hayes
19:07 <teabot> Vanhayes: http://www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/A28U7ITCYH2S0M - Amazon.com: Profile for K. Van D. Hayes
19:07 <Vanhayes> @google Vanhayes
19:07 <teabot> Vanhayes: http://www.facebook.com/people/Van-Hayes/523448291 - Van Hayes | Facebook
19:07 <MrBougo> lol
19:08 <MrBougo> K. Van D. Hayes reads interesting stuff
19:08 <MrBougo> Philosophical and Theoretical Perspectives for Advanced Nursing Practice (Jones and Bartlett Series in Nursing)
19:08 <Vanhayes> lets say thats me
19:09 <MrBougo> ok
19:09 <Vanhayes> so no more redneck in tub image
19:09 <MrBougo> lets link that amazon guy to that facebook guy
19:09 <MrBougo> they're the same maybe
19:09 <BabyBug> hey wait, van hayes is a real name?
19:10 <Vanhayes> i guess
19:10 <Vanhayes> probably short for Devan hayes
19:10 <Vanhayes> http://www.facebook.com/srch.php?nm=Van+Hayes&sid=d955897a816b487bd6ff4ca854477697
19:10 <Vanhayes> lots of em
19:12 <Vanhayes> @google BabyBug
19:12 <MrBougo> ok Vanhayes
19:12 <teabot> Vanhayes: http://www.cricketmag.com/ProductDetail.asp?pid=10 - Babybug Magazine: The Award-Winning Magazine for infants and ...
19:12 <MrBougo> you're that one then http://www.facebook.com/people/Van-Hayes/674840763
19:12 <Vanhayes> :/
19:12 <MrBougo> :p
19:12 <MrBougo> you choose
19:12 <Vanhayes> need a change of name
19:13 <epsy> BabyBug is making rock soup
19:13 <epsy> http://twitter.com/babybug
19:14 <MrBougo> epsy, you have Thursday off! bitch'n
19:14 <MrBougo> http://twitter.com/epsy
19:15 <epsy> someone has it already? :-(
19:15 <MrBougo> :p
19:15 <epsy> plus there's a capital at Epsy
19:15 <epsy> so it just can't be me
19:15 <MrBougo> I know :p
19:15 <epsy> it's probably the epsy from quakenet
19:16 <MrBougo> thats you, dummy
19:16 <epsy> the other one
19:16 <Vanhayes> http://twitter.com/vhayes lets say this is me
19:16 <MrBougo> lol
19:16 <epsy> o_O
19:17 <Vanhayes> is that the default pic for twitter?
19:18 <MrBougo> ive seen it before
19:18 <Vanhayes> #google vanhayes
19:18 <Vanhayes> .google vanhayes
19:18 <tronner> Vanhayes: Van Hayes | Facebook: <http://www.facebook.com/people/Van-Hayes/523448291>; Reggie Van Hayes - Charlotte, NC | Facebook: <http://www.facebook.com/people/Reggie-Van-Hayes/541643700>; Van Hayes: ZoomInfo Business People Information: <http://www.zoominfo.com/people/Hayes_Van_357739001.aspx>
19:19 <Vanhayes> that last one is me, i started a company in 1926
19:19 -!- L [n=x-javach@dhcp-077-251-115-079.chello.nl] has joined #armagetron
19:20 <epsy> hi L
19:20 <Vanhayes> .google "vanhayes"
19:20 <L> guess who
19:20 <tronner> Vanhayes: Van Hayes | Facebook: <http://www.facebook.com/people/Van-Hayes/523448291>; Reggie Van Hayes - Charlotte, NC | Facebook: <http://www.facebook.com/people/Reggie-Van-Hayes/541643700>; Van Hayes: ZoomInfo Business People Information: <http://www.zoominfo.com/people/Hayes_Van_357739001.aspx>
19:20 <epsy> hoaxi?
19:20 <Vanhayes> bah
19:20 <L> ..no
19:20 <epsy> mm :(
19:22 <Vanhayes> guessing game isnt fun
19:22 <epsy> lizmatic?
19:22 -!- joda_bot [n=anonymou@dslb-084-061-072-003.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Leaving."]
19:22 <epsy> freako?
19:24 <L> liiiz
19:26 <Vanhayes> the big L
19:26 <L> big O_O
19:26 <BabyBug> she's fat!
19:27 <Vanhayes> sorry, the Capital L
19:27 <Vanhayes> Uppercase if you will
19:34 -!- L is now known as Guest79146
19:35 <Guest79146> wat
19:35 -!- Guest79146 is now known as Lizmatic
19:38 <smoothice> frick life guys
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19:43 <ct|kyle> smoothice: Pong
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20:24 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50870CE6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron
20:25 <smoothice> oi z-man
20:25 <z-man> stalker!
20:25 <smoothice> ?
20:26 <smoothice> z-man: says who :P
20:27 <smoothice> z-man: does armagetron run on x86_64?
20:27 <z-man> I whoudln't know why not.
20:32 <Zurd> DING DING DING...WORK IS DONE TIME FOR FUN
20:32 <smoothice> Zurd: before I rebuild my vps
20:32 <smoothice> zurd: check NW Fortress {Smart AI} In server list
20:32 <Zurd> want me to go there?
20:32 <smoothice> yes
20:33 <smoothice> try it out before I rebuild my VPS and take 5 more hours to put it all back together
20:33 <Zurd> HI HO SILVER AWAY!!!!!!!!!
20:34 <smoothice> z-man: Debian or Ubuntu....I cannot decide
20:34 <epsy> neither :P
20:34 <z-man> Doesn't matter. is Debian 5.0 an option?
20:34 <Zurd> i hear ubuntu is the better of the two
20:34 <smoothice> Yes
20:34 <smoothice> Debian 5.0 of Ubuntu 8.10 (x86_64)
20:34 <smoothice> or *
20:34 <epsy> debian 5.0 was released already?
20:34 <Zurd> WTF, the ai just captured my zone.......
20:35 <z-man> Yep, a few weeks ago.
20:35 <epsy> oh mah gahd
20:35 <smoothice> ?
20:36 <epsy> that's got to be impossible, they beat us
20:36 <z-man> smoothice: my vps is running on deb 5.0 now. At home, I use Ubuntu on the desktops and gentoo on the servers.
20:36 <smoothice> z-man: Which do you prefer? Debian or Gentoo?
20:36 <z-man> I see no significant difference between ubuntu and debian.
20:36 <z-man> Gentoo disqualifies itself for serious servers for breaking too often on normal updates.
20:37 <smoothice> ooo lol
20:37 <smoothice> well
20:37 <epsy> smoothice, arch is fine, but beware a little
20:37 <smoothice> 8.10 is older than 5.0
20:37 <smoothice> epsy: ?
20:37 <epsy> the distro I currently use
20:38 <epsy> unless you don't have that choice
20:38 <z-man> Ubuntu has the advantage that you can have two large updates per year, Debian updates are more sporadic.
20:38 <smoothice> next Ubuntu update is April 23rd 2009
20:39 <smoothice> projected
20:39 <z-man> For a server, most things distinguishing distributions don't matter much.
20:39 <smoothice> alright
20:39 <smoothice> I think I'll go with Deb 5
20:39 <smoothice> to be "Just Like You
20:39 <smoothice> LOL!
20:39 <z-man> :/
20:39 <epsy> main concern with debian is that you often lack packages
20:40 <epsy> same goes for ubuntu I guess
20:40 <z-man> Yeah. debian 5 doesn't have libprotobuf, for example.
20:40 <z-man> Hmm, Ubuntu universe is quite complete.
20:40 <epsy> does someone know about a pacakge version comparator?
20:41 <smoothice> hmm
20:41 <z-man> The number of things I had to install from source here is really minimal.
20:41 <smoothice> I compiled protobuf from source
20:41 <smoothice> for Ubuntu
20:41 <smoothice> I didn’t know it came as a package
20:41 <smoothice> lol
20:41 <epsy> like "distro xx has this package as version 1.2.3 and distro yy has this package as version 1.2.4"
20:41 <z-man> Only on 8.10, of course.
20:41 <epsy> that would be nead
20:41 <epsy> neat
20:42 <z-man> It would be, indeed.
20:42 <smoothice> ok
20:42 <smoothice> I did 5.0
20:42 <smoothice> just had to make the decision lol
20:43 <epsy> mmh, that's throwing ideas to me
20:43 <smoothice> ?
20:45 <BabyBug> \o
20:45 <Zurd> smoothice: love the smart AI
20:46 <epsy> is sound messed up for anyone else on this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1DwJaN8Ekg&fmt=18
20:47 <BabyBug> tis fine here epsy
20:47 <epsy> it is synced?
20:47 <smoothice> Zurd: that's gone now since I rebuilt lol
20:48 <epsy> sound is faster than image
20:48 <epsy> that's really annoying when he turns view
20:48 <BabyBug> epsy, not here it's not.
20:48 <epsy> and hell, cypher does that a lot
20:50 <Zurd> :o i hope you gave warning to they 8 ppl in DF
20:50 <smoothice> Zurd: nah
20:50 <smoothice> Zurd: LOL!
20:51 <Zurd> >.>
20:51 <smoothice> Zurd: I did it like 20 minutes ago
20:51 <epsy> BabyBug, are you 400% sure? :<
20:51 <Zurd> ohh
20:51 <BabyBug> epsy, 400% sure
20:52 <epsy> strange
20:52 <smoothice> Aptitude or apt-get?
20:52 <BabyBug> apt-get
20:52 <BabyBug> 8-)
20:52 <smoothice> epsy: ?
20:52 <nniveus> yay no more debian/ubuntu talk ;)
20:52 <smoothice> ?
20:52 <epsy> smoothice, what now? >.>
20:52 <nniveus> hellooooooooooo
20:52  * BabyBug cuddles nniveus 
20:53 <BabyBug> <3333333333
20:53 <smoothice> ...
20:53 <nniveus> :)
20:53 <smoothice> dammit
20:53 <smoothice> APT-GET OR APTITUDE?
20:53 <smoothice> I don't know which one
20:53 <nniveus> someone said apt get
20:53 <epsy> pacman! :D
20:53 <nniveus> lol?
20:53 <epsy> pff, cypher's missing all his rails
20:55 <nniveus> just checked out vid
20:55 <epsy> is sound and image synced for you or not?
20:56 <nniveus> ya
20:56 <nniveus> i see no problem with it :/
20:56 <BabyBug> oh great, first smoothice doesn't trust my answers. And then epsy doesn't trust my answers
20:56 <nniveus> btw is that how you spend your time now, instead of tron? :P never see you on the grid now
20:56 <BabyBug> well i'll just go then!!
20:56 <smoothice> k good
20:56 <nniveus> pf stay >:(
20:56 <epsy> I don't get why I gt weird sound then
20:57 <epsy> & babybug u stay :D
20:57 <nniveus> might want to try other vids
20:57 <BabyBug> pssht
20:57 <epsy> I did
20:57 <ivantis2> mooooo!
20:57 <epsy> wateri14's are the only UI get that on
20:57 <nniveus> then i don't know what your problem is D:
20:57 <epsy> s/UI/I/
20:57 <BabyBug> omg...someone in n9 for the first time in like forever
20:58 <nniveus> old player?
20:58 <Zurd> your getting a new vps smoothice?
20:58 <ivantis2> .sd Nexus
20:58 <tronner> ivantis2: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!)0xffff88: 0xffff88Players (1/16): C$ JsHaLz
20:58 <ivantis2> zomg
20:58 <nniveus> lawl
20:58 <smoothice> Zurd: rebuild = reinstall new OS
20:58 <Zurd> ah
20:58 <smoothice> Zurd: instantly
20:58 <smoothice> nniveus, Zurd: Running DEBIAN 5.0
20:58 <smoothice> lol
20:58 <ivantis2> smoothice, who are you again?
20:58 <smoothice> a person
20:58 <smoothice> you?
20:59 <smoothice> oh
20:59 <smoothice> wait
20:59 <smoothice> you?
20:59 <ivantis2> your nick is not a memorable one
20:59 <Zurd> smoothice how long till your server are back up and running?
20:59 <smoothice> no idea
20:59 <smoothice> lol
20:59 <smoothice> meg
20:59 <smoothice> meh
20:59 <smoothice> ~3 hours
20:59 <Zurd> lol k
20:59 <smoothice> I can put up a temp DF if needed
20:59 <smoothice> but
20:59 <smoothice> part of me doesn't care
21:00 <Zurd> i have the temp up
21:00 <Zurd> no worries
21:00 <nniveus> babybug's at n9?
21:00 <BabyBug> not anymore
21:00 <BabyBug> they left
21:00 <nniveus> ;_;
21:00 <ivantis2> yay spongebob is on
21:00 <ivantis2> i love spongebobs show
21:01 <Zurd> "spongebobs" hes a real person?
21:01 <ivantis2> ;lolololololol
21:01 <ivantis2> no
21:01 <smoothice> yay
21:01 <smoothice> I love spongebob
21:02 <ivantis2> smoothice, what country are you from?
21:02 <smoothice> UK
21:02 <smoothice> why
21:02 <ivantis2> oh right
21:02 <Zurd> smoothice: our forums are down again, and i noticed you havent been on them in a couple days >.<
21:02 <ivantis2> no raeson
21:02 <smoothice> hah
21:02 <smoothice> Zurd: yeah... I went to them yesterday night and they were down then too
21:03 <BabyBug> smoothice, you're in the us... ...
21:03 <Zurd> WTF
21:03 <smoothice> ?
21:03 <smoothice> BabyBug: ?
21:03 <BabyBug> You're in the US..not the UK :|
21:03 <nniveus> get back in n9
21:03 <nniveus> sry back >_>
21:03 <smoothice> BabyBug: proof?
21:03  * nniveus nudges
21:03 <Zurd> babybug: SHHHHHHHHHHHHH
21:03 <BabyBug> smoothice, qwest =)
21:03 <smoothice> is in the Uk
21:03 <smoothice> like I said
21:04 <ivantis2> smoothice, what area of the UK?
21:04 <smoothice> I'm in the UK
21:04 <smoothice> Wales
21:04 <ivantis2> smoothice, what is your zip code?
21:04 <smoothice> there are no zip codes
21:04 <smoothice> there are postal codes
21:04 <ivantis2> i was kidding i believe you
21:04 <smoothice> really?
21:04 <smoothice> lol!
21:04 <epsy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHqdVjJJrv4&feature=channel
21:04 <smoothice> BabyBug: hah
21:05 <epsy> 1:58
21:05 <epsy> failed climb :P
21:05 <ivantis2> heh i once said i was from the australia to some annoying person asking a/s/l
21:05 <BabyBug> lol ivantis2 you're so funny
21:05 <BabyBug> nniveus, you left N9? lol
21:08 <ivantis2> wtf is this? i hvaent gotten a rep;y from this guy in 2 hours
21:09 <smoothice> @seen teabot
21:09 <ivantis2> .seen
21:09 <tronner> ivantis2: (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself.
21:09 <ivantis2> .seen teabot
21:09 <tronner> ivantis2: teabot was last seen in #armagetron 1 hour, 57 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <teabot> Vanhayes: http://www.cricketmag.com/ProductDetail.asp?pid=10 - Babybug Magazine: The Award-Winning Magazine for infants and ...
21:09 <Zurd> .bet 1
21:09 <ivantis2> .seen tronner
21:09 <tronner> ivantis2: I have not seen tronner.
21:09 <Zurd> ]bet 1
21:09 <ljrbot> Zurd: Error: "bet" is not a valid command.
21:09 <ivantis2> llllop;l'
21:11 <nniveus> no you did lol
21:11 <nniveus> to babybug that is
21:12 <BabyBug> you did :'(
21:12 <nniveus> no you ;)
21:12 <nniveus> go back on
21:12 <nniveus> fort's too crowded
21:13 <BabyBug> okies
21:13 <BabyBug> im in
21:17 <nniveus> :)
21:18 <smoothice> .ubuntu
21:18 <tronner> sudo apt-get install build-essential automake subversion libboost-dev libxml2-dev libsdl-image1.2-dev libsdl-mixer1.2-dev ftgl-dev libglew-dev bison pkg-config
21:18 <smoothice> thanks tronner
21:18 <epsy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWH5hTek4fU&feature=related
21:19 <epsy> LOL
21:20 <smoothice> guys look
21:20 <smoothice> http://geekbazaar.org/2008/05/23/apt-get-install-wife/
21:21 <ivantis2> epsy, i need to try that
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21:22 <BabyBug> E: Methwyd canfod pecyn wife
21:22 <BabyBug> :(
21:23 <Zurd> smoothice: ROFL
21:23 <smoothice> Zurd: I was surfing and found that lol
21:24 <Zurd> thats great lol
21:24 <epsy> BabyBug, /exec -o echo ${LC_ALL}
21:25 <BabyBug> ?
21:25 <epsy> type that
21:25 <BabyBug> I did
21:25 <BabyBug> it did nothing
21:26 <epsy> BabyBug, /exec -o /bin/bash -c 'echo ${LC_ALL}'
21:26 <BabyBug> ${LC_ALL} is empty...
21:26 <epsy> wtf o_o
21:26 <epsy> that's probably some really special welsh thing :P
21:27 <BabyBug> ...
21:27 <BabyBug> what should it output?
21:27 <epsy> well, your LC_ALL
21:27 <BabyBug> you type it!
21:27 <epsy> fr_FR.UTF-8
21:28 <BabyBug> hrmm
21:28 <BabyBug> I could do that by typing...
21:28 <BabyBug> cy_GB.UTF-8
21:28 <BabyBug> that's using $LANG instead of ${LC_ALL}
21:30 <nniveus> gave up on fort too atm ;( lags
21:31 <BabyBug> welsh rox!
21:31 <epsy> you mean jryfu ebk
21:32 <BabyBug> jealous
21:32 <epsy> no you
21:33 <ivantis2> nou
21:33 <epsy> guru3, http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=203384#203384
21:34 <guru3> epsy: gotten
21:34 <BabyBug> someone else really really should be able to edit things
21:34  * epsy edits BabyBug 
21:34 <BabyBug> you don't want to edit me really!
21:35  * epsy opens gvim
21:35  * epsy types :%s/.*//
21:35  * epsy types :wq
21:35 <epsy> BabyBug is now only newlines
21:36 <BabyBug> here is a new line
21:36 <BabyBug> and here's another
21:36 <BabyBug> :)
21:36 <epsy> I hope you're not binary
21:36 <BabyBug> you haven't editted me a bit
21:36 <epsy> can you stop spamming empty lines BabyBug ?
21:37 <BabyBug> spamming "empty" lines on irc is not possible
21:37 <BabyBug> =)
21:37 <epsy>  
21:37 <epsy>  
21:37 <epsy>  
21:37 <epsy>  
21:37 <BabyBug> there's a space...
21:37 <epsy> 
21:37 <epsy> 
21:37 <epsy> 
21:37 <epsy> 
21:37 <epsy> :)
21:37 <BabyBug> there's still a space..
21:38 <epsy> no
21:38 <BabyBug> there is this end
21:38 <epsy> there's what's after the :
21:38 <ivantis2>  
21:38 <epsy> and that's it
21:38 <epsy> ""
21:38 <ivantis2> \
21:38 <epsy> ''
21:38 <epsy> :o
21:39 <BabyBug> weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
21:39  * BabyBug falls in nniveus arms
21:40 <ivantis2> e
21:41  * nniveus thinks about catching ;)
21:41 <BabyBug> ...
21:41 <BabyBug> =(
21:41 <nniveus> alright i'll bbl, out for a movie :P
21:41 <nniveus> laters
21:41 <nniveus> and fine :/
21:41  * nniveus catches =_=;
21:41 <BabyBug> :D
21:41 <nniveus> :)
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21:42  * epsy has no idea what to do with buttons 6 & 7
21:43 <ivantis2> press them
21:43 <epsy> actually they suck
21:43 <epsy> it's tilt mwheel left/right
21:43 <epsy> annoying
21:44 <ivantis2> what are you talking about?
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22:04 <madmax> #sd -v café
22:04 <madmax> oh, heh.
22:04  * BabyBug cuddles madmax 
22:05 <madmax> "<3"
22:06 <ct|kyle> .tea -v
22:06 <tronner> ct|kyle: Fortress Café (:4539) running 0.2.8_alpha20090228 unix dedicated, url: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/, Description: “This is a fortress server. Expect to be kicked if you don\'t know how to play. To learn how to play try http://wiki.armagetronad.net/“, Players (7/32): bloc, CTxGonZaP, Guybrush, MobiusPoint, orly?, Ultra, ~|DS|~ Judders
22:06 <Concord> emmy_arma: have time?
22:06 <madmax> yeah, used query with teabot
22:06 <emmy_arma> Concord yes ;)
22:07 <Concord> oki
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22:21 <cpayan> maybe joda should give up on connecting...
22:22 <ct|kyle> no he just needs to learn ow to read
22:22 <ct|kyle> how*
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22:25 <ct|kyle> joda_bot: have you learned how to read yet?
22:26 <joda_bot> ct|kyle: I guess someone changed my pw :D
22:26 <joda_bot> or I messed up
22:26 <smoothice> Zurd: I just completely re-setup Apache 2.2.9 so I don't know if I'll get to the servers until a bit later
22:26 <joda_bot> ct|kyle: if you're talking about identifying
22:26 <Zurd> no worries
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22:27 <joda_bot> ct|kyle: hehe .... yeah, I had a bug in pidgin
22:27 <smoothice> pidgin?
22:27 <smoothice> Purple IRC libs?
22:27 <joda_bot> www.pidgin.im
22:27 <Zurd> im using pidgen, how do i do irc with it
22:27 <ct|kyle> that remind me I should update my alpah build
22:27 <Zurd> what do i tyoe in?
22:27 <joda_bot> Zurd: ?
22:28 <Zurd> idk what to do to log into irc with pidgen, please enlighten me
22:28 <ct|kyle>  /msg nickServ register
22:28 <ct|kyle> start with that
22:28 <Zurd> i have one
22:28 <epsy> smoothice, don't spam
22:28 <smoothice> epsy, don't spam
22:28 <ct|kyle> then the name and password you set up
22:28 <smoothice> epsy: don't spam with useless spam
22:29 <ct|kyle> pwnt
22:29 <smoothice> ;)
22:31 <joda_bot> Zurd: you have to setup an IRC account for freenode
22:32 <joda_bot> e.g. new account (type IRC, server = irc.freenode.org, nickname = zurd)
22:32 <cpayan> passwd = cpayan
22:33 <joda_bot> cpayan: thx :-P
22:33 <cpayan> hey i'm just helping zurd out
22:33 <cpayan> :)
22:36 <smoothice> Zurd: why didn't you compile the NW servers with armathentication? -.-
22:37 <ct|kyle> we lost Zurd to the pidgin
22:38 <smoothice> lol
22:38 <cpayan> ouch
22:38 <cpayan> he's using mibbit...
22:39 <ct|kyle> trying to use pidgin
22:39 <joda_bot> ct|kyle: install OTR :D
22:39 <ct|kyle> joda_bot: I've got it installed
22:39 <joda_bot> eheh ok test :D
22:40 <Zurd> i did, i just didnt set them up
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22:41 <joda_bot> lol
22:41 <joda_bot> cool
22:43 <joda_bot> I got kicked for OTR authentification
22:43 <joda_bot> (excess flood)
22:44 <joda_bot> oh noes ...
22:44 <joda_bot> bbl have to fix my pidgin config ... all buddies are not grouped anymore :-P
22:44 <ct|kyle> spam^^
22:47 <cpayan> ^^spam
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22:59 <Zurd> smooth why is it that you log off msn :'(
23:02 <smoothice> says you did
23:02 <smoothice> now you're back on
23:03 <smoothice> .:':.ZURD.:':. says: (4:03:44 PM)
23:03 <smoothice> if youre looking for Zurd, its not him. sorry. auto login.
23:03 <smoothice> zurd: WTF
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23:04 <smoothice> Zurd: WTF
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23:08 <Hyp3> hey
23:08 <ct|kyle> oi
23:08 <Hyp3> oi
23:09 <smoothice> Hi Hyp3
23:10 <Hyp3> hey smooth
23:12 <Hyp3> so whats doing
23:12 <smoothice> ?
23:13 <cpayan> That was a good conversation
23:13 <Hyp3> lulz
23:14 <ct|kyle> Hyp3: your mom :P
23:14 <Hyp3> :o
23:14 <Hyp3> ct|kyle, oh no you didnt
23:15 <Hyp3> i will murder you all :o
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23:59 <ivantis2> i thought smoothice was leaving forever?

Log from 2009-03-21:
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00:02 <joda_bot> ct|kyle: ??? what was that about "your mum" ?
00:03 <epsy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4GCOpxQvzs
00:04 <ivantis2> epsy, i got "this video is no longer available"
00:04 <epsy> gotta love that laugh
00:05 <ivantis2> .echo epsy! that video didnt work for me (ivantis2)
00:05 <tronner> epsy! that video didnt work for me (ivantis2)
00:06 <epsy> don't abuse tronner please
00:06 <MrBougo> .echo ok
00:06 <tronner> ok
00:07 <MrBougo> night :p
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00:07 <ct|kyle> joda_bot: nothing
00:08 <joda_bot> ct|kyle: atleast Hyp3 seemed not to like your statement :-P
00:08 <epsy> night
00:09 <joda_bot> epsy: thx I think, does it relate in anyway to my questions or was it just your "random" association ?
00:09 <joda_bot> epsy: gn8
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00:11 <Vanhayes> .ping
00:11 <tronner> pong
00:12 <ct|kyle> pong
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01:04 <cpayan> .ping
01:04 <tronner> pong
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01:16 <noob13> hi!
01:16 <noob13> Oo
01:16 <noob13> .tea
01:16 <tronner> noob13: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
01:17 <noob13> :/
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02:50 <smoothice> guru3: ping
02:50 <ct|kyle> darn I thought I scared smoothice away
02:51 <ct|kyle> btw smoothice i think it's like 2 AM for guru3
02:51 <ct|kyle> 4*
02:53 <smoothice> oh ok
02:53 <smoothice> EU?
02:53 <ct|kyle> ya
02:54 <smoothice> ct|kyle: ok I'll asl you then
02:54 <smoothice> ct|kyle: I'm making a forum and I don't know what forum system to uyse
02:55 <smoothice> ct|kyle: phpbb?
02:55 <ct|kyle> well armagetronad.net is going to go to phpbb3, ct is going to go to mybb.  both of us are using phpbb2 right now
02:56 <ct|kyle> but why are you going to asl(Atomic Space Lab)  me
02:57 <smoothice> ct|kyle: lol
02:57 <smoothice> ct|kyle: umm
02:57 <smoothice> ct|kyle: well
02:58 <smoothice> ct|kyle: MyBB?
02:58 <cpayan> awkward
02:58 <cpayan> nice save
02:59 <cpayan> smoothice, what's the forum about?
03:00 <smoothice> cpayan: personal
03:00 <cpayan> ah, all right
03:01 <smoothice> cpayan: personal forum for personal comm with friends and family
03:01 <cpayan> I figured it was something like that. Well, you can't go too far wrong with phpBB
03:04 <ct|kyle> I think mybb is a bit more secure
03:06 <smoothice> cpayan: yeah
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03:50 <SoBe> oi everyone :D
03:50 <ct|kyle> oi
03:50 <SoBe> kyle!  long time no talk yo
03:50 <SoBe> :)
03:50 <ct|kyle> ya
03:51 <SoBe> im kinda happy your on cuz i needed to ask a quick question.  i host this server for this one guy right, and he is ALWAYS wanted to change settings, and i want to make like a fast, easy control panel type deal where he can edit settings_custom.cfg and be done with it
03:52 <SoBe> is it easy to do something like this?  oO
03:53 <SoBe> i would just give him access to his server via SFTP if thats possible, but idk how to do that with this unix server i got
03:53 <ct|kyle> yes an no, I helped durka with it a bit but if the server does die it won't restart and I could not figure out a way to fix that
03:53 <SoBe> yeah, durka showed me his
03:53 <SoBe> its pretty nice
03:54 <SoBe> but i think if i could get a user to just use ftp to access his server only, that would be the way i would wanna do it
03:54 <SoBe> is this possible?
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03:54 <SoBe> yo zurd :D
03:55 <Zurd> hey sobe
03:55 <ct|kyle> SoBe: yes, but I'm not exactly sure of the wait to jailbreak accounts
03:55 <ct|kyle> way*
03:55 <SoBe> i can do this easily on my web host, but this linux server VPS thing is way different
03:57 <smoothice> ct|kyle: easy
03:57 <smoothice> ct|kyle: make a program in any language and make a loop
04:00 <ct|kyle> smoothice: tail -F cmds.txt to server write to it when file is changed, but tail -f does not allow server to restart if there are problems
04:00 <SoBe> smoothice, do you know how to add a user to your vps to be able to access one server via scp://
04:01 <smoothice> SoBe: no
04:03 <SoBe> http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl8_adduser.htm
04:03 <SoBe> would that help me?
04:03 <SoBe> i dont understand what the -d home_dir means or how to use it
04:03 <SoBe> but it seems like what i want
04:05 <ct|kyle> not exactly what you want
04:05 <SoBe> oh :/
04:08 <SoBe> http://fixunix.com/ssh/238284-non-interactive-sftp-put.html
04:08 <SoBe> would any of that help?
04:08 <SoBe> scp user@host:remotefile localfile that looked like it would do something
04:10 <ct|kyle> SoBe: http://www.itworld.com/nlsunix071108
04:10 <smoothice> SoBe: there is a way to make SCP-only users
04:11 <Zurd> smoothice our site is still down....
04:12 <Zurd> all of freeforums is down
04:14 <SoBe> smoothice:  Whats your method to this?  Is it harder than what ct|kyle found?  xD
04:14 <SoBe> ct|kyle, if there isnt an easier way, ill look more into that later
04:14 <smoothice> Zurd: crud...
04:14 <smoothice> SoBe: nevermind
04:16 <Zurd> i'll be so pissed if they dont get back up
04:17 <Zurd> they better give me some second level hosting or somthing..........
04:17 <luke-jr> why
04:17 <luke-jr> are you paying them?
04:17 <Zurd> yes
04:18 <luke-jr> O.o
04:18 <luke-jr> wtf is it called freeforums for then?
04:18 <SoBe> lol luke
04:18 <Zurd> we are buying no adds
04:18 <luke-jr> Zurd: why not just move it to your VPS? >_<
04:18 <Zurd> because i dont want to start over..
04:19 <SoBe> luke-jr how do you limit your users to their own server directory via SCP?
04:19 <luke-jr> didn't you say it was a $50 one time fee to transfer? O.o
04:19 <Zurd> or pay a 60$ transfer fee
04:19 <luke-jr> how much $/mo for no-ads?
04:19 <luke-jr> SoBe: I don't.
04:19 <Zurd> like 5$ or 6$
04:19 <luke-jr> SoBe: do I know you? O.o
04:19 <luke-jr> Zurd: that's $50 in 10 months
04:19 <Zurd> its outragious...
04:19 <SoBe> oO when i used your hosting, you gave me access via SCP to only my server
04:20 <luke-jr> so if you plan to have your fourms for over a year, cheaper to transfer
04:20 <luke-jr> SoBe: well, there's standard UNIX permissions of course
04:20 <Zurd> yeah...but if the forums never egt back up
04:20 <Zurd> or the host webist
04:20 <luke-jr> Zurd: that's another factor ☺
04:20 <Zurd> luke, why dont you host forums yet??
04:20 <luke-jr> $5/mo gives you no guarantees it won't just vanish
04:21 <luke-jr> Zurd: if you want managed forum hosting for your VPS, I'm sure I can come up with a price
04:21 <luke-jr> kinda assumed that was simple enough tho
04:21 <Zurd> i can manage my own forums.............
04:21 <luke-jr> that's what I thought XD
04:21 <Zurd> i meant subdomain forums
04:22 <luke-jr> uh, different how?
04:22 <Zurd> ads
04:22 <luke-jr> ads don't pay crap
04:22 <luke-jr> unless you run a big enough network to make your own private ad deals
04:23 <SoBe> luke-jr, your awesome :) so all i need to do is add a new user and then in the SCP in permissions when i right click select the group that can edit it?
04:23 <luke-jr> SoBe: English? O.o
04:23 <SoBe> oO
04:23 <SoBe> ok, so how exactly do you set up to where only i could have edited my own server files
04:23 <Zurd> luke-jr whats the command to change the user permissions on my vps?
04:24 <luke-jr> Zurd: read 'man chmod'
04:24 <luke-jr> SoBe: that's generally the default
04:24 <Zurd> not the commands, the file i put the comand in....the 6letter this that starts with a "v"
04:24 <SoBe> how?  oO do i need to create a new user IN that directory?
04:24 <luke-jr> you can't create users in directories
04:24 <luke-jr> users aren't files
04:25 <Zurd> damnit,
04:25 <luke-jr> Zurd: you mean admin access
04:25 <luke-jr> Zurd: visudo
04:25 <Zurd> yes
04:25 <Zurd> THANK YOU
04:25 <luke-jr> Zurd: be careful, it is easy to elevate once admin
04:25 <luke-jr> Zurd: generally, don't put anyone in there unless you trust them 100%
04:26 <Zurd> k, thank you
04:27 <SoBe> hehe luke i am almost there!
04:27 <luke-jr> SoBe: why don't you just get a server from me again? ☺
04:27 <SoBe> i logged in, BUT when i login it just goes to that directory
04:27 <SoBe> and the server info aint there
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04:27 <SoBe> yours is too expensive... i have a $10 VPS
04:28 <SoBe> blame it on the economy not me
04:28 <luke-jr> SoBe: pfft, too expensive?
04:28 <luke-jr> $1/slot/mo?
04:28 <SoBe> yeah, but i can set up however many servers i want with unlimited slots
04:28 <luke-jr> and where were you when I had a special with $7/mo VPS?
04:28 <SoBe> idk Oo
04:28 <luke-jr> you mean as much as your VPS supports
04:29 <luke-jr> there *is* always a limit
04:29 <smoothice> no
04:29 <ct|kyle> yes
04:30 <SoBe> luke, where is your vps located?
04:30 <SoBe> what DC?
04:31 <SoBe> anywho, im not here to get bribed into paying more money for this free game -.- i just want to learn how to set up a way were users can access their server via SCP and can only edit their folder, and nothing else
04:32 <luke-jr> SoBe: Connecticut and Georgia
04:32 <smoothice> luke-jr: where in CT
04:32 <luke-jr> smoothice: Greenwich I think? not exactly sure on that :p
04:34 <smoothice> luke-jr: can I have a CT IP to test ping?
04:35 <luke-jr> 65.18.193.127
04:36 <smoothice> luke-jr: k thanks
04:37 <luke-jr> how's the ping from you?
04:37 <smoothice> I have a friend in Greenwich
04:37 <smoothice> on cable
04:37 <ct|kyle> what's the Georgia one
04:37 <smoothice> got about 20-30
04:37 <smoothice> 66.216.20.12
04:37 <smoothice> GA
04:38 <ct|kyle> woa
04:38 <luke-jr> ?
04:38 <smoothice> ?
04:38 <ct|kyle> 64 bytes from 66.216.20.12: icmp_seq=2 ttl=53 time=69.6 ms
04:38 <ct|kyle> 64 bytes from 66.216.20.12: icmp_seq=3 ttl=53 time=206 ms
04:38 <ct|kyle> 64 bytes from 66.216.20.12: icmp_seq=4 ttl=53 time=319 ms
04:38 <luke-jr> wtf?
04:38 <luke-jr> mtr it
04:38 <ct|kyle> it is all over the place
04:38 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: mtr
04:39 <ct|kyle> what is mtr
04:39 <luke-jr> I'm getting a consistent 51
04:39 <luke-jr> mtr = ping + traceroute
04:39 <luke-jr> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 49.402/52.932/57.878/1.616 ms
04:41 <ct|kyle> must be something with *.sprintlink.net
04:42 <luke-jr> that where it starts?
04:42 <ct|kyle> there are about 5 of them it goes through and any one of them has a high ping
04:42 <luke-jr> hrm
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04:43 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: ya my ISP is definitely going crazy
04:44 <smoothice> verizon dsl
04:44 <smoothice> ownd
04:44 <ct|kyle> ya LOL
04:44 <ct|kyle> the CT server seams better though
04:45 <ct|kyle> except on a few occasions it was going up to 200,  but right around 57 the rest of the time
04:46 <ct|kyle> mt ping is all over the place on CT's server
04:46 <ct|kyle> my*
04:46 <ct|kyle> 154 - 379
04:47  * ct|kyle forgot p2p running LOL
04:50 <smoothice> ...
04:50 <smoothice> torrents?
04:50 <luke-jr> LOL
04:50 <smoothice> ?
04:51 <ct|kyle> ya, stopping them made it a constant
04:51 <ct|kyle> 70 for GA and 59 for CT
04:55 <smoothice> ct|kyle: sofa king cool
04:55 <smoothice> LOL
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05:15 <Zurd> hey luke, can you link me to your demo page please
05:15 <luke-jr> …
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05:22 <Pathetique> Would one of the devs field this question?: Why are we against the idea of having a centralized clan system?
05:23 <luke-jr> meaning?
05:23 <Pathetique> So we have one main database that people have to register at if they want to be in a clan and have tags in front of their name.
05:23 <Pathetique> Probably using GID.
05:24 <Pathetique> They'd authenticate at the server in order to have their full name displayed.
05:24 <Pathetique> I think it would save a lot of drama and fighting in servers. :|
05:24 <Pathetique> I was told by someone that when they suggested it in the past they were shotdown.
05:25 <luke-jr> that doesn't even make sense
05:25 <Pathetique> What part?
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05:25 <luke-jr> for a start, "tags" in a name are stupid
05:25 <luke-jr> it's a name, not an ad
05:26 <Pathetique> When I have .dBd| in my name, its not advertising.
05:26 <luke-jr> it's still stupid
05:26 <Pathetique> I know a lot of clans exist just for the sake of having lots of people.
05:26 <Pathetique> I'm talking like clans like .dBd| and Crazy Tronners and x
05:26 <Pathetique> That would really benefit from this.
05:26 <luke-jr> there's nothing to do
05:26 <luke-jr> names aren't supposed to have tags
05:26 <luke-jr> simple as that
05:27 <Pathetique> No need to be stubborn. :\
05:27 <Pathetique> Open your mind. :)
05:27 <luke-jr> also, global ID was itself a compromise by some devs
05:27 <luke-jr> since they hold an ideal of nothing central
05:27 <Pathetique> To appease the masses?
05:28 <Pathetique> Ah, so they're kind of like libertarians. LOL
05:28 <luke-jr> AFAIK, a "centralized clan system" would be all-in-one clan hosting services
05:29 <luke-jr> erm, libertarian is pretty much the entire point of Free software
05:29 <Pathetique> lawl
05:29 <Pathetique> Not really...it wouldn't be hard to integrate the authentication already in existence with a clan system on the main forums.
05:29 <Pathetique> A wonderful game called DarkSpace is a prime example.
05:30 <Pathetique> Only alphanumeric characters are allowed in names
05:30 <luke-jr> authentication and clans are unrelated, kthx
05:30 <dlh> A clan system?
05:31 <Pathetique> Authentication *is* related to clans, luke.  I have yet to see a single random player set up their own auth server just for shits and giggles.
05:31 <dlh> Start a reserved-name list: one name tied to an authenticated name. Get clan-run servers to opt-in and subscribe to the list.
05:31  * dlh did
05:31 <luke-jr> Pathetique: then perhaps that is a flaw
05:31 <luke-jr> also, you forget me
05:31 <luke-jr> I authenticate as luke@dashjr.org
05:31 <dlh> #ls -g dlh@generalconsumption.org
05:31 <luke-jr> crap, now my unmarked email is on IRC logs :/
05:31 <dlh> oh, armabot
05:32 <Pathetique> rofl
05:32 <ct|kyle> .cfg2 RESERVE_SCREEN_NAME
05:32 <tronner> ct|kyle: RESERVE_SCREEN_NAME: Reserves a screen name to a registered user
05:32 <luke-jr> Pathetique: the entire purpose of global ID is to uniquely identify a person
05:32 <Pathetique> Indeed.
05:32 <ct|kyle> RESERVE_SCREEN_NAME ct_ky13 kyle@ct
05:32 <luke-jr> it should not depend on that person being a member of some organization
05:32 <luke-jr> it should not change when they join a clan
05:32 <luke-jr> or leave or get kicked
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05:32 <Pathetique> But what about a *group* of people, ct|kyle and luke-jr.
05:33 <Pathetique> There's no way to do that, is there?
05:33 <luke-jr> did you actually read what I said?
05:33 <Pathetique> Yes.  I raise a related but separate point.
05:34 <dlh> An auth server can relate to a group of people.
05:34 <dlh> Run your own auth server for clan members.
05:34 <Pathetique> I'm talking about people identifying themselves with a group of people when they aren't a member of said server.
05:34 <Pathetique> said group*
05:34 <Pathetique> dlh: That solves nothing, as it still allows people to "impersonate," for lack of a better word, membership in my clan.
05:35 <luke-jr> no it doesn't
05:35 <dlh> Read what I first said about a reserved name list
05:35 <Pathetique> Which is where a centralized server comes in great handy.
05:35 <dlh> There will never be a central clan list we provide
05:35 <Pathetique> Of course.
05:35 <luke-jr> Pathetique: I think what it comes down to next is
05:35 <Pathetique> But if someone else provided it, would someone here at least be willing to code it?
05:35 <dlh> BUT, you can start your own!
05:35 <luke-jr> if someone fakes membership in your clan
05:35 <luke-jr> nobody cares
05:35 <luke-jr> it's meaningless anyhow
05:35 <luke-jr> :p
05:35  * Pathetique cares -.-
05:36 <luke-jr> Pathetique: feel free to write the next gen high-security auth system
05:36 <luke-jr> Pathetique: I believe the plans are on the wiki.
05:36 <luke-jr> you could probably extend it to understand clans easily
05:37 <luke-jr> eg, just have a clan key that signs member keys every month
05:37 <Pathetique> Like SSH, right?
05:37 <luke-jr> of course, you STILL won't be able to censor nicknames for tags that shouldn't exist
05:37 <luke-jr> but that's not a real problem ☺
05:37 <Pathetique> That would be the point.
05:38 <luke-jr> problems that aren't problems can't be fixed ☺
05:38 <Pathetique> So what if they're issues that lots of people who actually *play* tron have?
05:38 <Pathetique> :\
05:38 <luke-jr> they're not
05:38 <luke-jr> the problem is people putting clan tags in names
05:38 <luke-jr> they shouldn't do that.
05:39 <Pathetique> That would be the issue that we're having.
05:39 <luke-jr> maybe a fix would be to identify multiple people with common prefix or suffix as the same person
05:39 <Pathetique> People who do that despite being warned.
05:39 <luke-jr> and if two people try to login with names starting the same, only allow the first
05:39 <luke-jr> since they're obviously the same person
05:40 <luke-jr> so ".dBd|foo" and ".dBd|bar" would be identified as the same, and only one allowed to connect
05:40 <luke-jr> ☺
05:40 <luke-jr> kinda like the new antispam ☺
05:40 <Pathetique> Which would be pointless.
05:41 <ct|kyle> btw I faked .dBd|
05:41 <ct|kyle> :P
05:41 <Pathetique> :\
05:41 <Pathetique> :/
05:41 <luke-jr> Pathetique: not at all
05:41 <ct|kyle> it would crash my script on ctwf so I had to test it to see if I fixed it
05:41 <luke-jr> it would mean NOBODY could abuse "nickname" with tags
05:41 <Pathetique> oic, luke.
05:42 <Pathetique> Thank you for clarifying.
05:42 <dlh> It would be difficult to not catch legitimate names with that…
05:42 <Pathetique> Unless you restricted nicknames to alphanumeric characters only.
05:43 <dlh> Sounds like a lot of work for something that is best handled by good server moderators :)
05:43 <Pathetique> ...
05:43 <Pathetique> That's assuming that there are mods on all the time.
05:43 <dlh> How about we just assign all players a number, and do away with names?
05:44 <luke-jr> YES
05:44 <Pathetique> Here's an idea.
05:44 <Pathetique> An old favorite of mine, DarkSpace, developed by Palestar, also developed a chatroom backend that I got this idea from.
05:44 <Pathetique> They called it GameCQ.
05:45 <Pathetique> Its the base for their clan system.
05:45 <Pathetique> They've released an SDK for your perusal if you're interested.
05:45 <Pathetique> http://www.palestar.com
05:46 <luke-jr> not
05:46 <Zurd> luke-jr: ping are spiking high on arma servers..
05:47 <Zurd> from our vps
05:47 <luke-jr> Zurd: still?
05:47 <Zurd> just started
05:48 <Zurd> havent gone down
05:48 <luke-jr> hum
05:48 <luke-jr> well, I don't know wtf you're doing but
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05:48 <luke-jr> one of your servers was spinning
05:48 <Zurd> ??
05:48 <Zurd> idk wtf im doing either...
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05:50 <luke-jr> you're supposed to, for an unmanaged VPS
05:50 <Zurd> ....
05:50 <Zurd> this is pissing me off...
05:51 <Pathetique> LOL
05:51 <Pathetique> Zurd: Readthefuckingmanual before possibly fuxx0ring a server.
05:51 <luke-jr> Pathetique: *I* think the manual is fun
05:51 <Pathetique> Me too.
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05:51 <luke-jr> I wasn't aware they were capable of f⁂ing
05:51 <Pathetique> LOL
05:52 <Pathetique> how to obtain triple asterisk?
05:52 <luke-jr> I type * thrice
05:52 <Zurd> you wanna give me the fucking manual then...
05:52 <Pathetique> oic.
05:52 <Pathetique> Zurd, there is no palpable manual.
05:52 <Zurd> gee thanks..
05:52 <luke-jr> XD
05:52 <Pathetique> Its more like, understanding what does what.
05:52 <Pathetique> Its kind of like don't use words you don't know the meaning for...
05:53 <Pathetique> If you don't know what a command does, don't use it until you find out from someone who does.
05:53 <Zurd> great and when i ask for help i need to pay...
05:53 <luke-jr> Zurd: by "spinning" I mean it was sitting there eating 100% CPU for a few seconds at least
05:53 <Zurd> off of what?
05:53 <luke-jr> that doesn't happen normally
05:53 <luke-jr> ⁇⁇
05:53 <Pathetique> lolol
05:53 <Zurd> i havent done anything for it to do so
05:53 <luke-jr> Zurd: could be a sty bug
05:53 <Pathetique> spinning its wheels
05:53 <luke-jr> or a CT bug, but CT code *seems* to be more sane
05:54 <luke-jr> it did stop, shortly after I logged in
05:54 <Zurd> what you suggest, a server restart?
05:54 <luke-jr> I'd be surprised if it was still being a problem now
05:54 <Pathetique> btw, did anyone manage to compile my branch? :S
05:54 <luke-jr> Zurd: could try it
05:54 <luke-jr> Zurd: by default, the servers setup by the control panel restart daily
05:54 <Pathetique> oh
05:54 <luke-jr> Pathetique: not sure anyone tried
05:55 <Pathetique> I tried on the account gene gave me for his VPS
05:55 <Pathetique> But ./configure seems to think it be best I do it outside of /usr/local/
05:55 <luke-jr> Zurd: [23:54:18] <luke-jr> it did stop, shortly after I logged in
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05:56 <Pathetique> and I was too lazy to cp it to another folder
05:56 <Pathetique> lol
05:56 <luke-jr> Zurd: if you do /admin quit it will restart automatically
05:56 <Zurd> yeah
05:57 <Zurd> i was giving heads up to those in it
05:58 <luke-jr> Zurd:
05:58 <luke-jr> [0] MAX_CLIENTS changed from 16 to 12.
05:58 <luke-jr> [0] MAX_CLIENTS changed from 12 to 16.
05:58 <luke-jr> why do you do that every round? XD
05:58 <Pathetique> lol
05:58 <Pathetique> I have shit like that in some of my configs.
05:59 <Zurd> idk, i need to clean up the config
05:59 <Pathetique> What's the difference between --enable-armathentication and --enable-authentication?
06:00 <luke-jr> spelling
06:00 <Pathetique> ic.
06:01 <Pathetique> after I bootstrap, for some reason ./configure --help gets fuxx0red.
06:01 <Zurd> luke, your mean
06:01 <luke-jr> :D
06:01 <luke-jr> only echoing
06:01 <luke-jr> ☺
06:01 <Zurd> why you haxoring my server?
06:02 <luke-jr> pfft, not haxoring
06:02 <Zurd> what is ☺?
06:02 <luke-jr> you implicitly gave me permission by asking for help :p
06:02 <Pathetique> LOL
06:02 <luke-jr> Zurd: what does it look like? -.-
06:02 <Zurd> but why do you know the passwords i never gave you o.O
06:02 <luke-jr> I don't.
06:02 <luke-jr> I just didn't need them. :p
06:02 <Pathetique> He is ultimate root.
06:02 <Zurd> i looks like a rock or a crapy circle
06:03 <Pathetique> WTF
06:03 <luke-jr> I vote crapy circle
06:03 <luke-jr> Zurd looks like a crapy circle.
06:04 <Zurd> what is it then?
06:04 <Zurd> ☺
06:04 <Zurd> ☺
06:04 <Zurd> ☺
06:04 <Zurd> ☺
06:04 <Zurd> ☺
06:04 <Zurd> ☺
06:04 <Zurd> ☺
06:04 <Zurd> ☺
06:04 <Zurd> ☺
06:04 <Pathetique> WTF
06:04 <Zurd> ☺
06:04 <Pathetique> STOP SPAMMING
06:04 <luke-jr> if your IRC client is configured properly, it's a smiley
06:04 <Pathetique> ***
06:04 <Pathetique> f***cking.
06:04 <Pathetique> grr.
06:04 <luke-jr> ⁂
06:04 <Pathetique> You're gay.
06:04 <luke-jr> ⁑
06:05 <luke-jr> ⚃
06:05 <Pathetique> ⁂ is a special character.
06:05 <Pathetique> :P
06:05 <luke-jr> ♡
06:05 <Pathetique> &lozn;
06:05 <luke-jr> ♬
06:05 <Pathetique> wtf
06:05 <Zurd> you kicking my players o.O
06:05 <Pathetique> I don't remember the symbol for a diamond.
06:05 <Pathetique> LOL
06:05 <luke-jr> Zurd: nope
06:05 <luke-jr> Zurd: I logged out like 5 min ago
06:05 <Zurd> they all left...DAMN YOU!
06:05 <luke-jr> O.o
06:05 <luke-jr> they take you too seriously!
06:06 <Zurd> DAMN YOU VIAL WOMAN!
06:06 <luke-jr> all I did was paste
06:06 <Zurd> lol
06:06 <luke-jr> [23:48:50] <Zurd> idk wtf im doing either…
06:06 <Zurd> stoooooooooooooooop!
06:06 <luke-jr> guess they took it a little hard
06:06 <Zurd> >.<
06:06 <luke-jr> Pathetique: is it mean to paste that in Zurd's server?
06:06 <luke-jr> XD
06:06 <Zurd> i'm suposed to know what im doing 24/7 or else no one takes me serious
06:06 <Pathetique> LOL
06:06 <luke-jr> >_<
06:07 <Zurd> >.<
06:07 <Zurd> >-<
06:07 <luke-jr> yay chocolate milk!
06:07 <Zurd> mmm
06:07 <Pathetique> FFS>
06:07 <luke-jr> Final Fantasy Seven?
06:07 <Pathetique> Why must ./configure be so frustrating?
06:08 <luke-jr> you probably screwed up bootstrap
06:08 <Pathetique> how does one do that?
06:08 <Pathetique> -.-
06:08 <Pathetique> all I did was ./boostrap.sh
06:08 <Pathetique> grrr
06:08 <Pathetique> all I did was ./bootstrap.sh
06:08 <Zurd> yep you fked it up...
06:08 <Zurd> now luke has to fix it
06:08 <luke-jr> Zurd: nah, Pathetique isn't even my customer
06:08 <Pathetique> and passing --help is no help.
06:08 <Zurd> god path! your such a nub!
06:09 <luke-jr> XD
06:09 <luke-jr> Zurd: at least Pathetique's problem is non-obvious?
06:09 <Zurd> >.>
06:09 <Pathetique> pwn.
06:09 <Zurd> quite you
06:09 <luke-jr> quiet*
06:09 <Pathetique> quiet*
06:09 <Pathetique> lol
06:09 <Zurd> STFU!
06:09 <luke-jr> Zurd: btw, did they really all leave?
06:09 <Pathetique> pathetique@theserverpharm:/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct$ FUCKYOURMOTHER
06:10 <Pathetique> -bash: FUCKYOURMOTHER: command not found
06:10 <Zurd> yes they did :(
06:10 <luke-jr> Pathetique: next time that will be aliased to rm -rf /
06:10 <luke-jr> Zurd: wtf, idiots
06:10 <Pathetique> LOL
06:10 <luke-jr> they take life way too seriously
06:10 <Zurd> i feel hurt
06:10 <Pathetique> That would be mean.
06:10 <Zurd> luke...you hurt...me :(
06:10 <Pathetique> so that's what alias does? You can make shortcuts with it, eh?
06:10 <luke-jr> …………
06:10 <luke-jr> omfg path, are you that dense?
06:11 <Zurd> pwn
06:11 <luke-jr> alias is a fscking common English word
06:11 <Pathetique> I had a feeling it was that.
06:11 <Pathetique> BUT
06:11 <luke-jr> no but
06:11 <Pathetique> I've learned
06:11 <Pathetique> not to poke my head into stuff
06:11 <luke-jr> liar
06:11 <Pathetique> that doesn't need messing with.
06:11 <Pathetique> I mean, yeah, that was a dumb statement.
06:11 <luke-jr> very
06:11 <Zurd> path...you lie like a cheap rug
06:12 <Pathetique> Even Mac OS X calls shortcuts "aliases"
06:12 <luke-jr> …
06:13 <Pathetique> So.
06:13 <Pathetique> src/Makefile.am:30: wildcard $(top_srcdir: non-POSIX variable name
06:13 <Pathetique> src/Makefile.am:30: (probably a GNU make extension)
06:13 <Pathetique> wtf is that shit?
06:13 <Pathetique> LOL
06:13 <luke-jr> Pathetique: RTFM
06:14 <Pathetique> how to obtain manual for ./bootstrap.sh?
06:14 <Zurd> why can i not find any fvcking debian 4.0 commands!?!
06:14 <luke-jr> pretty sure you'd understand 1% of it if you read the POSIX manual
06:14 <Pathetique> lolololol
06:14 <luke-jr> probably about 60% more if you read the GNU make manual
06:14 <Pathetique> man -k make?
06:14 <Pathetique> rofl
06:15  * luke-jr wonders wtf -k is
06:15 <Pathetique> idk
06:15 <Pathetique> It's not failed me before
06:15 <Zurd> -bash: -k: command not found
06:15 <luke-jr> fail
06:15 <Pathetique> oic
06:15 <Pathetique> silly ubuntu
06:15 <Pathetique> LOL
06:16 <luke-jr> Pathetique: man -k is infinitely less useful than normal man
06:16 <Pathetique> ...
06:16 <Pathetique> man doesn't like me.
06:16 <luke-jr> do women?
06:16 <Zurd> "Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/simfs            16777216    769628  15382628   5% / tmpfs                  1551780         0   1551780   0% /lib/init/rw tmpfs                  1551780         0   1551780   0% /dev/shm"
06:17 <Pathetique> men are much simpler than women.
06:17 <Zurd> agreed
06:17 <luke-jr> Zurd: try df -h
06:17 <Pathetique> ...
06:17 <Zurd> all we do is lift the seat...
06:17 <Pathetique> man won't let me exit.
06:18 <luke-jr> Pathetique: you pressed q?
06:18 <Pathetique> ...
06:18 <luke-jr> you know, for QUIT
06:18 <Zurd> same result luke
06:18 <Pathetique> Why can't they make it ctrl+x like the rest?
06:18 <luke-jr> Zurd: liar
06:18 <Pathetique> ><
06:18 <luke-jr> Pathetique: "rest" being one program?
06:18 <Zurd> " nightwalkers:~# df Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/simfs            16777216    769628  15382628   5% / tmpfs                  1551780         0   1551780   0% /lib/init/rw tmpfs                  1551780         0   1551780   0% /dev/shm nightwalkers:~# nightwalkers:~# df -h Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use%
06:18 <Pathetique> no
06:18 <Pathetique> well
06:18 <Pathetique> make it like nano
06:18 <Pathetique> LOL
06:18 <luke-jr> Zurd: liat
06:19 <luke-jr> Zurd: liar
06:19 <Zurd> its just simplified...
06:19 <luke-jr> Zurd: liar
06:19 <luke-jr> df -h
06:19 <luke-jr> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
06:19 <Zurd> "Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/simfs             16G  752M   15G   5% / tmpfs                 1.5G     0  1.5G   0% /lib/init/rw tmpfs                 1.5G     0  1.5G   0% /dev/shm"
06:19 <luke-jr> /dev/simfs             16G  752M   15G   5% /
06:19 <Zurd> same as "df"
06:20 <luke-jr> nope
06:20 <luke-jr> 'df' by itself is not readable ☺
06:20 <Zurd> just simplified numbers.........
06:20 <Zurd> ??
06:20 <Zurd> yes it is?
06:20 <Zurd> are you nub?
06:20 <Pathetique> luke-jr: I thought the order was ./bootstrap.sh, then ./configure, THEN make?
06:20 <luke-jr> Pathetique: indeed it is
06:20 <Pathetique> ...
06:21 <Pathetique> That's waht I did.
06:21 <Pathetique> But I guess ./configure was all set.
06:21 <Zurd> "nightwalkers:~# df -i Filesystem            Inodes   IUsed   IFree IUse% Mounted on /dev/simfs           1906501   40268 1866233    3% / tmpfs                 218850       2  218848    1% /lib/init/rw tmpfs                 218850       1  218849    1% /dev/shm"
06:22 <Zurd> that one is differnt
06:22 <Pathetique> yay for declarations <.<
06:26 <Zurd> idk why, when ever i make a directory, i can never access it
06:26 <Pathetique> setting permissions ftw
06:27 <Pathetique> or using sudo for each command if you don't know how to set permissions from command line
06:27 <Zurd> luke-jr where is the webpage of my vps founs, in the directory?
06:27 <luke-jr> wtf?
06:28 <Pathetique> its in /var/www/ or some such.
06:28 <Zurd> ty sir
06:28 <Pathetique> How many lines of code are there in the normal tron branch?
06:28 <Zurd> now to use dreamweaver
06:28 <Zurd> joy
06:29 <Zurd> pathetique: 325
06:29 <luke-jr> Pathetique: find -name '*.cpp' -or -name '*.h' -exec cat '{}' \; | wc -l
06:29 <Pathetique> chyeah
06:29 <Pathetique> oh my.
06:29 <luke-jr> Pathetique: how many?
06:29 <Pathetique> idk
06:29 <luke-jr> …
06:29 <Pathetique> h/o
06:30 <Pathetique> interpreting why make fuxx0red.
06:31 <Pathetique> 20347?
06:31 <Pathetique> That's it?
06:31 <luke-jr> Pathetique: you want to rewrite 20,000 LOC?
06:32 <Pathetique> LOL
06:32 <Pathetique> nty
06:32 <Pathetique> Perhaps we could eventually head towards my idea from earlier?
06:32 <Pathetique> Doesn't have to be immediate.
06:32 <Pathetique> :P
06:32 <luke-jr> you mean your idea that conflicts with reality?
06:33 <Pathetique> no, I just mean it conflicts with reality in the very short term.
06:33 <luke-jr> sigh
06:34 <Pathetique> C++ is gay.
06:34 <Pathetique> My brain is burnt otu.
06:34 <Pathetique> Have a good night ya'll.
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06:34 <luke-jr> quite frankly I'm more interested in ramps and cubes than stupid clans
06:34 <luke-jr> ☺
06:38 <Zurd> luke-jr, why cant i access my server via FTP?!
06:39 <Zurd> https://66.216.20.12/apache2-default/ :o luke-jr
06:39 <Zurd> :o like a ninja :O
06:40 <Zurd> umm...WTF?
06:41 <Zurd> i now have all permissions denied..
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13:46 <Lucifer> luke-jr: actually, what pathetique wants is probably quite doable, and somewhat reasonable :)
13:46 <Lucifer> but can't happen in 0.2.8
13:47 <Lucifer> we'd need for the server to add the clan tag, call it "group tag" to the name
13:47 <Lucifer> auth servers could tell the server what their group tag is, if they have one
13:47 <Lucifer> then clans would setup their own auth servers that would give up their group tag
13:47 <Lucifer> servers could be configured to display the group tag according to the admin's preferences
13:48 <Lucifer> that last would allow the prevention of exploits where people add the tag to their screen name to make it look like the server added it
13:48 <Lucifer> or we could just give the client a special graphic with which to separate the rendering
13:48 <Lucifer> the question is, are groups useful other than being used as a euphemism for clans?
13:49 <Lucifer> of course, to balance the effort, server admins should be able to ban entire groups, but they can already do that by just disallowing specific auth servers
13:50 <Lucifer> clans that object to such a decentralized system can just go screw themselves, as far as I'm concerned
13:50 <Lucifer> I *know* that many servers won't setup to accept auth, and then clanners that play on thsoe servers won't get their clan tags, and that's just the cost of doing business in a clan, imo
13:51 <Lucifer> maybe instead of having the server provide the clan tag, just have it transmit to the client in the user info structure (whatever it is)
13:51 <Lucifer> then the player can configure his client to render the tag however he wishes
13:51 <Lucifer> hell, if we take it that far, we could give groups an icon to use as well, making forging group membership even more difficult
13:52 <Lucifer> also allow icons for players, and the problem is solved
13:52 <Lucifer> :)
13:52 <Lucifer> obviously not something that can be done in 0.2.8
13:52 <Lucifer> (or maybe it can be done in 0.2.8, but not for 0.2.8.3)
13:58 <zmanuel> Bah. That VPS of mine only allows 16 screen sessions.
13:59 <Lucifer> nobody should need more than 16 screen sessions
13:59 <Lucifer> hmmm, does it fit in 640k of ram?
13:59 <zmanuel> I'm running each server in a screen session.
13:59 <zmanuel> And I'm runnind AA, DedCon and Dedwinia servers.
14:00 <zmanuel> Time to rethink my approach, I guess.
14:00 <Lucifer> I have a little python program I was working on to run more than one arma server
14:01 <Lucifer> hmmm, to be honest, what I really want is a service manager
14:01 <Lucifer> that's something windows has that I think linux could use
14:01 <Lucifer> there are some available, but for some reason I didn't like them, I don't remember why
14:01  * Lucifer googles
14:02 <Lucifer> hmmm, now I'm not finding anything
14:02 <Lucifer> can't be that hard to write a basic one
14:03 <Lucifer> read a config file that describes what services to run, do the double fork to start each one
14:03 <Lucifer> connect pipes to stdin/stdout (as needed)
14:03  * Lucifer considers writing one again
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15:01 <Vanhayes> @g (447-63)*2
15:01 <teabot> Vanhayes: http://cgi.ebay.com/1992-Hot-Wheels-COLLECTOR-%23447-'63-SPLIT-WINDOW--3SPOKE_W0QQitemZ270356108675QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20090310?IMSfp=TL090310124004r14315 - 1992 Hot Wheels COLLECTOR #447 &#39;63 SPLIT WINDOW 3SPOKE - eBay ...
15:02 <Vanhayes> ...
15:02 <Vanhayes> @calc (447-63)*2
15:02 <teabot> Vanhayes: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
15:02 <Vanhayes> boo
15:04 <MrBougo> @calc 1+1
15:04 <teabot> MrBougo: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
15:04 <MrBougo> @g vanhayes
15:04 <teabot> MrBougo: http://www.facebook.com/people/Van-Hayes/523448291 - Van Hayes | Facebook
15:04 <Vanhayes> boo again
15:04 <MrBougo> :p
15:05 <Vanhayes> @g MrBougo
15:05 <teabot> Vanhayes: http://irc.dokuwiki.org/index.php?d=2008-10-28 - DokuWiki IRC channel log
15:05 <MrBougo> eh
15:05 <MrBougo> I got logged!
15:06 <MrBougo> http://www.mrbongo.com
15:06 <MrBougo> :<
15:08 <Vanhayes> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/playerstats2.htm  <-- wow aka=] played for 178202:07 hours in 2 months
15:09 <MrBougo> lol
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15:09 <Vanhayes> thats not even possible
15:09 <MrBougo> 12419.1% of the time
15:09 <MrBougo> hahaha
15:09 <MrBougo> "wow" ?
15:09 <MrBougo> why wow
15:09 <smoothice> ?
15:09 <MrBougo> I see nothign
15:09 <smoothice> yo folks
15:09 <MrBougo> it's "aka =]"
15:10 <MrBougo> also, people are playing 15% of their time?
15:10 <MrBougo> wtf people.
15:10 <Vanhayes> ha, for some reason i was reading it as an actual name
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15:11 <MrBougo> oh
15:12 <Vanhayes> player 1 is understandable seeing as alot of people use that name
15:13 <Vanhayes> -=}ID< Arilou plays for about 6 hours a day though...
15:13 <Vanhayes> thats like work
15:16 <MrBougo> :o
15:16 <smoothice> .ubuntu
15:16 <tronner> sudo apt-get install build-essential automake subversion libboost-dev libxml2-dev libsdl-image1.2-dev libsdl-mixer1.2-dev ftgl-dev libglew-dev bison pkg-config
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15:29 <smoothice> hi cpayan
15:42 <cpayan> hey smoothice
15:43 <cpayan> what's shakin
15:44 <smoothice> cpayan: gotta go
15:44 <smoothice> cpayan: that's what's shaking
15:44 <smoothice> cpayan: lol
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16:36 <luke-jr> Lucifer: alternate authorities could spoof clans easily
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18:09 <nsh22> hello
18:10 <luke-jr> o hai thar
18:10 <luke-jr> how r u
18:10 <nsh22> gud, u?
18:10 <luke-jr> dunno
18:10 <nsh22> lol
18:11 <nsh22> anything new in the lands of development?
18:12 <luke-jr> well, I just fixed a bug in 0.2.8.3
18:12 <luke-jr> I think it's been a bug since 0.2.8.0 :o
18:12 <nsh22> :P which one?
18:12 <luke-jr> or earlier
18:12 <luke-jr> the included maps are all incomplete
18:12 <nsh22> o0
18:12 <luke-jr> they all refer to "map.dtd"
18:12 <luke-jr> which is strictly for development stuff, like bootstrap
18:13 <luke-jr> not supposed to exist in the real world
18:13 <nsh22> shouldt they all refer to aa-team. sumthingorother.dtd?
18:15 <luke-jr> AATeam/map-VERSION.dtd
18:15 <luke-jr> or for old maps, simply map-VERSION.dtd
18:15 <luke-jr> old maps being pre-0.2.8.0
18:15 <nsh22> yeah, thats the 1 (the 1st one)
18:15 <luke-jr> kinda funny
18:15 <luke-jr> map format 0.1-exp had a lot of experimental features that got discarded
18:16 <luke-jr> like SavePos/RestorePos
18:16 <nsh22> any that are useful?
18:16 <luke-jr> SavePos/RestorePos was very useful for HexaTRON maps
18:16 <luke-jr> it allowed star-type walls
18:16 <nsh22> ah
18:16 <Concord> hmm?
18:17 <luke-jr> with the current format, you can only go point A->B->C->D
18:17 <nsh22> what is the best way to make a map? is there any good programs? (i use armabel)
18:17 <luke-jr> *Pos allowed you to do A->B->C, B->D, B->E
18:17 <Concord> cool
18:17 <luke-jr> nsh22: text editor
18:17 <nsh22> :( what about a program to get the wall coordinates?
18:17 <Concord> or something that colors the syntax for you
18:17 <luke-jr> you could try updating griddraw too
18:18 <Concord> xml editor
18:18 <nsh22> griddraw?
18:18 <luke-jr> lately my maps have mostly been conceptualized in KolourPaint
18:18 <luke-jr> nsh22: griddraw is a C API for making maps
18:18 <luke-jr> so you write your maps in C
18:18 <luke-jr> and compile them into XML
18:18 <nsh22> o0
18:18 <luke-jr> it also supports compiling to C++ for 0.2.7 mods :p
18:18 <luke-jr> but griddraw is version 0.1 I think
18:18 <nsh22> why would you use c, when you can just put the entire thing into an xml?
18:19 <luke-jr> maps version 0.1 that is
18:19 <luke-jr> nsh22: well, the API is different a bit
18:19 <luke-jr> for example, you say "position me at X,Y"
18:19 <luke-jr> then
18:19 <luke-jr> "turn to 90 degrees"
18:19 <luke-jr> "go forward by 5"
18:19 <nsh22> i use armabell and it works qute well, i just cjhne soem stuf in the first few lines and poof, im done
18:19 <luke-jr> "turn 45 degrees"
18:19 <luke-jr> "go forward 5 more"
18:19 <nsh22> change some stuff*
18:20 <luke-jr> maybe we should add support for that in the XML
18:20 <epsy> nah
18:20 <luke-jr> but it wouldn't be possible to make it backward compat
18:20 <nsh22> so, it would force you to move?
18:20 <luke-jr> …
18:20 <luke-jr> nsh22: no, you'd draw walls like you were a cycle :p
18:20 <epsy> that's the job the the map editor to propose something like this
18:20 <nsh22> OHHH!, thats a great idea
18:20 <luke-jr> epsy: no good map editor exists
18:20 <nsh22> he meant the person...
18:20 <nsh22> i think
18:20 <epsy> luke-jr, yeah, but let's keep the map format simple
18:21 <luke-jr> epsy: the method griddraw uses is simpler than point arrays, for humans
18:21 <luke-jr> especially if you add complex things like for loops ;)
18:21 <nsh22> epsy: i think it would be simpler if we did what luke-jr suggests
18:21 <luke-jr> that in mind, updating griddraw might be best
18:21 <luke-jr> then you keep compat
18:21 <luke-jr> and don't need to support these advanced things in the parser
18:22 <epsy> it gets way complexier to read simplier structures
18:22 <nsh22> @g griddraw
18:22 <teabot> nsh22: http://www.computergeek.co.nz/grid_draw.htm - Speedway New Zealand Championship Grid Draw Software Download
18:22 <luke-jr> maybe port griddraw to Python
18:22 <luke-jr> @g griddraw armagetron
18:22 <nsh22> i sthat it?
18:22 <teabot> luke-jr: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=2196 - Armagetron Forums :: View topic - Auto-generating maps
18:22 <nsh22> ah
18:22 <epsy> and having both is just not an option
18:22 <nsh22> ty
18:22 <luke-jr> epsy: eh, of course it is?
18:22 <epsy> no
18:23 <luke-jr> nsh22: that thread isn't actually about griddraw XD
18:23 <epsy> there's one thing: make walls, and there's one way of doing it
18:23 <epsy> not 15416
18:23 <nsh22> ffs
18:23 <nsh22> where can i get griddraw?
18:23 <MrBougo> epsy, why 15416?
18:23 <epsy> and the current absolute coord method is fine
18:23 <luke-jr> nsh22: currently subversion, let me move it to bzr
18:23 <nsh22> ok :P
18:23 <luke-jr> epsy: fine for the game,  not fine for authors
18:24 <epsy> it was easier for me to do full coords
18:24 <epsy> and it's easier to see what walls are crossing eachother
18:24 <epsy> so better readability
18:25 <epsy> do you realize it becomes brainfuck to understand? maybe it's easier to write but then it just gets impossible
18:25 <nsh22> epsy: maybe have a program that interprets commands and transforms them into the wall coordinates?
18:25 <epsy> let that be done by whoever writes a good map editor and have something along these lines
18:25 <luke-jr> epsy: why do the main branches end in -work?
18:26 <epsy> nsh22, that's called a calculator
18:26 <nsh22> epsy: ...
18:26 <epsy> @8ball why do the main branches end in -work?
18:26 <teabot> epsy: Come again?
18:26 <luke-jr> epsy: a very complex calculator, unless you only use 90 degree turns
18:27 <epsy> /\
18:27 <epsy> ||
18:27 <luke-jr> for hexaxis-style maps, something automatic is needed
18:27 <epsy> _
18:27 <epsy> do that with your leet format
18:27 <luke-jr> easy?
18:27 <luke-jr> start at 0,0
18:27 <epsy> go up by one
18:27 <luke-jr> turn to 90 degrees
18:27 <luke-jr> go straight 1
18:27 <luke-jr> turn -90 degrees (up)
18:27 <luke-jr> go straight 1
18:27 <luke-jr> turn -45 degrees
18:28 <luke-jr> etc
18:28 <epsy> detail "etc"
18:28 <luke-jr> ok, I see the shortcoming
18:28 <epsy> :)
18:28 <nsh22> luke-jr: what is it?
18:28 <luke-jr> but *sometimes* it is useful
18:28 <luke-jr> for symmetrical maps
18:28 <luke-jr> nsh22: to finish epsy's example, you would need to do the geometry manually
18:28 -!- L [n=x-javach@dhcp-077-251-115-079.chello.nl] has joined #armagetron
18:28 <epsy> so leave that for the map editor
18:29 <luke-jr> using points as we currently do is easier
18:29 -!- L [n=x-javach@dhcp-077-251-115-079.chello.nl] has quit [Client Quit]
18:29 <luke-jr> anyhow, imported lp:~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/tools-griddraw-trunk-work
18:29 <nsh22> :(
18:29 <nsh22> ok thx
18:30 <luke-jr> looks like I updated it for AATeam/map-0.2.8.0_rc4.dtd
18:30 <luke-jr> but that won't work for HexaTRON maps
18:30 <luke-jr> unless you rewrite *Pos handling
18:31 <nsh22> o0\
18:33 <nsh22> awww, i have to build and compile it myself?
18:33 <luke-jr> nsh22: …
18:33 <luke-jr> you missed the basic concept
18:33 -!- GodTodd_ [n=TheTruth@pool-173-74-72-105.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron
18:33 <nsh22> ive never done that before so...
18:33 -!- GodTodd [n=TheTruth@pool-173-74-72-105.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
18:33 <luke-jr> you don't compile griddraw
18:33 <luke-jr> you compile your map
18:33 <luke-jr> griddraw is just an API
18:33 <nsh22> ok well i need to build it anyways
18:34 <luke-jr> look at griddraw-map-diamondspin.c
18:34 <luke-jr> that's a map
18:34  * nsh22 has no clue where to begin
18:34 <luke-jr> nsh22: to compile a map, run ./griddraw <map> xml
18:35 <nsh22> ... should i be working wit code::blocks?
18:35 <luke-jr> no
18:35 <nsh22> thats a map???
18:35 <luke-jr> indeed
18:35 <nsh22> is dev c++ good?
18:35 <nsh22> luke-jr: it doesnt look like the proper format, but i guess it will when i compile it
18:36 <luke-jr> no IDE
18:36 <nsh22> ???
18:36 <luke-jr> all CLI
18:36 <luke-jr> maybe a simple text editor for the C
18:36 <nsh22> ???
18:36 <nsh22> ????????????
18:37 -!- ivantis2 [n=ivantis@ppp-70-243-243-83.dsl.wchtks.swbell.net] has joined #armagetron
18:38  * nsh22 is very confused
18:42 <ivantis2> booc
18:42 <ivantis2> good**
18:42 <ivantis2> its all part of mine plan
18:42 <nsh22> @quote get 10
18:42 <teabot> nsh22: Quote #10: "<BabyBug>: ivantis2, if they give you the root password, the username is root" (added by epsy at 10:37 AM, March 20, 2009)
18:43 <nsh22> @quote get 11
18:43 <teabot> nsh22: Error: There is no Quote with id #11 in my database for #arma.xclan.
18:43 <luke-jr> LOL
18:43 <nsh22> @quote get 12
18:43 <teabot> nsh22: Quote #12: "* ivantis2 has quit <epsy> victory" (added by neal at 10:54 AM, March 20, 2009)
18:43 <nsh22> :P
18:43 <ivantis2> wow you fuddy arnt you?
18:44 <ivantis2> @quote get 1
18:44 <nsh22> ivantis2: i like to think so :P
18:44 <ivantis2> .seen Ttech[daedalus]
18:44 <tronner> ivantis2: (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself.
18:45 <ivantis2> .seen ttech
18:45 <tronner> ivantis2: ttech was last seen in #armagetron 16 weeks, 3 days, 17 hours, 48 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: <Ttech> How was i?
18:45 <ivantis2> .seen Ttech[daedalus]
18:45 <tronner> ivantis2: (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself.
18:45 <ivantis2> .seen "Ttech[daedalus]"
18:45 <tronner> ivantis2: I have not seen Ttech[daedalus].
18:45 <ivantis2> 16 weeks ago?
18:45 <ivantis2> goodness
18:45 <ivantis2> .seen The_Master
18:45 <tronner> ivantis2: The_Master was last seen in #armagetron 15 weeks, 1 day, 4 hours, 29 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: <The_Master> Probably
18:46 <nsh22> .seen eddiefantastic
18:46 <tronner> nsh22: eddiefantastic was last seen in #armagetron 1 day, 2 hours, 6 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: <eddiefantastic> you can change the arena size, but not map iirc
18:46 <ivantis2> ?? it was less than that
18:46 <ivantis2> i made it play roulette
18:46 <ivantis2> .seen the real armabot
18:46 <tronner> ivantis2: (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself.
18:46 <luke-jr> anyone else think it's time to kick ivantis2?
18:47  * nsh22 raises hand
18:47 <ivantis2> no
18:47 <nsh22> 0/
18:47 <nsh22> o/*
18:47 -!- armabot [n=luke@wsip-98-172-136-133.om.om.cox.net] has joined #armagetron
18:47 <nsh22> luke, we want wrtlprnft s bot :(
18:47 <ivantis2> luke-jr, remove that armabot impersonator
18:48 <ivantis2> dont be dumb
18:48 <luke-jr> …
18:48 <luke-jr> #ping
18:48 <ivantis2> even if it didnt say luke@wsip...
18:48 <armabot> luke-jr: pong
18:48 <nsh22> he prolly just brought it in to kick you ivantis2
18:48 <nsh22> #thing
18:48 <ivantis2> i could still tell it was yours. i remember your hostname
18:48 <luke-jr> ivantis2: armabot is open source
18:48 <ivantis2> so?
18:48 <luke-jr> my hostname is 2002:: something
18:48 <luke-jr> idiot
18:49 <luke-jr> or should be anyhow
18:49 <nsh22> luke, you lie
18:49 <luke-jr> nsh22: u
18:49 <nsh22> n= Luke-Jr
18:49 <ivantis2> dude, i remember before you got all ipv6-ey, it was *.om.om.cox.net
18:50 <luke-jr> ivantis2: you didn't know me before I got IPv6, idiot
18:50 <nsh22> it still is
18:50 <ivantis2> sometimes you forget to IPv6 and its that
18:50 <luke-jr> #echo ivantis2: you suck
18:50 <armabot> ivantis2: you suck
18:50 <nsh22> what is ipv6?
18:50 <ivantis2> better than ipv4
18:50 <luke-jr> ivantis2: not forget, idiot
18:50 <nsh22> ivantis2: ...
18:51 <luke-jr> ISP goes down and IRC client retries w/o IPv6
18:51 <luke-jr> nsh22: Internet Protocol version 6
18:51 <nsh22> ah ty luke-jr
18:51 -!- luke-jr [n=luke-jr@ip70-187-26-118.om.om.cox.net] has quit []
18:51 <ivantis2> in case we run out of IPv4s
18:51 -!- luke-jr [n=luke-jr@2002:46bb:1a76:0:20e:a6ff:fec4:4e5d] has joined #armagetron
18:51 <ivantis2> we can use ipv6
18:51 <luke-jr> there, happy?
18:51 <ivantis2> no
18:51 <luke-jr> ivantis2: f u
18:51 <nsh22> then die
18:51 <ivantis2> you came back. i was happy
18:52 <luke-jr> nsh22: my IP address is 2002:46bb:1a76:0:20e:a6ff:fec4:4e5d
18:52 <nsh22> i see that
18:52 <nsh22> but before it was soemthing else
18:52 <armabot> nsh22: you suck
18:52 <ivantis2> im out of town visiting someone, and their ISP doesnt support ipv6
18:52 <armabot> ivantis2: die
18:52 <luke-jr> PING google.com(2001:4860:0:2001::68) 56 data bytes
18:52 <nsh22> ...
18:52 <luke-jr> 64 bytes from 2001:4860:0:2001::68: icmp_seq=1 ttl=56 time=164 ms
18:53 <armabot> ...
18:53 <nsh22> armabot?
18:53 <armabot> NO
18:53 <armabot> LEAVE ME ALONE
18:53 <ivantis2> its too bad t-mobile doesnt support IPv6
18:53 <armabot> its too bad ivantis2 supports IRC
18:53 <nsh22> luke or whoever is controling armabstfu
18:53 <nsh22> luke or whoever is controling armabot stfu *
18:53 <armabot> nsh22: stfu u
18:54 <armabot> I am armabot!
18:54 <luke-jr> …
18:54 <nsh22> luke, its coming from your ip,plz stop it.
18:54 <luke-jr> wtf is doing that
18:54 <ivantis2> ignoring the armabot impersonator
18:55 <armabot> let's all ignore ivantis2
18:55 <nsh22> i agree
18:55 <ivantis2> wtf why did i see that?
18:55 <ivantis2> stupid thing
18:55 <armabot> you can't ignore me
18:55 <armabot> I'm the armabot
18:55 <ivantis2> impersonator
18:55 <nsh22> lol luke
18:55 <armabot> lulwtfbbq
18:56 <nsh22> #echo #roulette
18:56 <armabot> I hereby declare ivantis2 fail
18:56 <armabot> #roulette
18:56 <nsh22> #r
18:56 <armabot> *click*
18:56 <nsh22> #roulette
18:56 <armabot> *click*
18:56 <ivantis2> are you shitting me? its not possible to reply to itself
18:56 <nsh22> ]echo #roulette
18:56 <ivantis2> #r
18:57 <armabot> #roulette
18:57 <armabot> *click*
18:57 <nsh22> ]echo fail
18:57 <ivantis2> .echo #r
18:57 <tronner> #r
18:57 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
18:57  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
18:57 <nsh22> luke-jr: op armabot
18:58 <luke-jr> uh
18:58 <luke-jr> no
18:58 <ivantis2> luke-jr, remember what happened to Zoffix?
18:58 <nsh22> why?
18:58 <luke-jr> ivantis2, remember what happened to you?
18:58  * luke-jr ponders a new K-line for ivantis2
18:58 <ivantis2> he was being dumb and got banned from #perl. maybe we need to do that to you
18:58 <ivantis2> dude, luke-jr should be k-lined
18:58 <nsh22> why?
18:59 <ivantis2> im not the creep
18:59 <luke-jr> because ivantis2 is a little babuy
18:59 <ivantis2> babuy?
18:59 <nsh22> aussie for baby
19:00 <ivantis2> why does luke-jr hate me?
19:00  * luke-jr wonders where nsh22 comes up with this crap
19:00 <nsh22> "that dingo ate mah babuy!"
19:00  * nsh22 wondersas well
19:01 -!- armabot [n=luke@wsip-98-172-136-133.om.om.cox.net] has left #armagetron []
19:01 <ivantis2> oh good its gone
19:01 <nsh22> ty luke
19:02 <luke-jr> sorry
19:02 <luke-jr> I pressed Esc too many times
19:03 <ivantis2> luke-jr, really, why do you hate me?
19:03 <luke-jr> ivantis2: I don't hate you
19:03 <nsh22> ivantis2: ... idont think he hats you, your just annoying
19:03 <luke-jr> and just to prove it, I'm driving down there just to visit you!
19:03 <nsh22> lol you would do that luek
19:03 <luke-jr> off to Lawrence I go!
19:03 <luke-jr> ttyl
19:03 <ivantis2> great! a visit from luke-jr
19:03  * luke-jr is away: visiting ivantis
19:04 <nsh22> ivantis2: hah sux
19:04 <ivantis2> but do you not remember the fact that im out of town for the week?
19:04 <luke-jr> woops, almost forgot my baseball bat
19:04  * luke-jr is away: visiting ivantis
19:04 <nsh22> yeah luke-jr :<ivantis2> im out of town visiting someone, and their ISP doesnt support ipv6
19:04 <ivantis2> noob
19:05 <luke-jr> XD
19:05 <nsh22> :P
19:05 <luke-jr> ivantis2: you're the noob
19:05 <luke-jr> you should know very well that I hate baseball
19:06 <luke-jr> thus, I would not have a baseball bat
19:06 <nsh22> lol
19:06 <nsh22> maybe its for beating ppl up?
19:06 <ivantis2> baseball is a dumb sport
19:06 <luke-jr> it is
19:06 <luke-jr> nsh22: no, that's a clue bat
19:06 <nsh22> luke-jr: ah, do you have one of those? if so, in what room?
19:06 <nsh22> we should make an irc clue game :P
19:07 <luke-jr> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cluebat
19:07 <luke-jr> nsh22: isn't that yandere?
19:08 <nsh22> luke-jr: does yandere have a candle holder in the observatory? no it doesnt
19:08 <ivantis2> noobn
19:08 <luke-jr> nsh22: report a bug for how it could be made relevant
19:08 <ivantis2> n ooo b
19:08 <ivantis2> nobobooeoobo
19:08 <luke-jr> ]y start theme=twg
19:08 <luke-jr> ljrbot?
19:08 <luke-jr> wtf
19:08 <ivantis2> will you let me play yandere this time?
19:09 -!- ljrbot [n=supybot-@2002:46bb:1a76:0:2b0:d0ff:fe49:6b31] has joined #Armagetron
19:09 <ivantis2> ]ping
19:09 <ljrbot> New news from armagetronadbzr: [tools-griddraw-trunk-work] r4 port pf_savestate and pf_restorestate to new map format || [tools-griddraw-trunk-work] r3 missing C include || [tools-griddraw-trunk-work] r2 missing C include || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1102 restore missing specific DTDs from repository
19:09 <luke-jr> ]admin ignore remove ivantis2
19:09 <ljrbot> luke-jr: Error: ivantis2!n=ivantis@ppp-70-243-243-83.dsl.wchtks.swbell.net wasn't in the ignores database.
19:09 <luke-jr> ]admin ignore remove *!*@*.swbell.net
19:09 <ljrbot> luke-jr: Error: *!*@*.swbell.net wasn't in the ignores database.
19:09 <luke-jr> ]admin ignore remove ivantis*
19:09 <ljrbot> luke-jr: Error: 'ivantis*' is not a valid nick or hostmask.
19:09 <luke-jr> ivantis2: how are you blocked?
19:09 <luke-jr> -.-
19:09 <luke-jr> ]list admin ignore
19:09 <ljrbot> luke-jr: (list [--private] [<plugin>]) -- Lists the commands available in the given plugin. If no plugin is given, lists the public plugins available. If --private is given, lists the private plugins.
19:09 <luke-jr> ]list admin
19:09 <ljrbot> luke-jr: capability add, capability remove, channels, ignore add, ignore list, ignore remove, join, nick, and part
19:09 <ivantis2> ]ping
19:10 <luke-jr> ]admin ignore list
19:10 <ljrbot> luke-jr: 'ballsac!n=atifali@204.198.72.230', 'Aynuhl_Sehks!n=tboone@user-24-214-126-81.knology.net', 'x80!i=Elite@p3m/member/x80', 'hifjifs!n=hifjifs@124-197-4-107.callplus.net.nz', '*!*@unaffiliated/ivantis', 'kazol*!*@*', 'gghh!i=revived@iraqi.army.isoverrated.com', 'spainish!n=spanish_@84.79.67.254', 'hhgg!i=revived@prune.juice.or.poonjuice.us', '*!*@155.229.22.98', (8 more messages)
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19:10 <ljrbot> luke-jr: '*!i=3ff5a67c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/*', 'Raylen!n=Raylen@adsl-69-235-199-157.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net', 'Ziggy_Sawdust!n=zatoshi@75.184.96.180', 'USAPoliticalPUND!n=none@ool-43551b92.dyn.optonline.net', 'jodedor!n=vain@adsl-75-45-219-32.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net', 'jesus!n=DrJoeTro@adsl-76-215-1-97.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net', '*!*@pool-64-222-155-82.man.east.verizon.net', (7 more messages)
19:10 <luke-jr> ]more
19:10 <ljrbot> luke-jr: '*!*@joo.got.haxored.net', '*!*@host-64-147-213-60.cbvnol.com', 'pornfrog!n=frog@c-24-125-212-124.hsd1.va.comcast.net', '*!i=479ed353@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/*', '*!*@CPE-24-31-243-62.kc.res.rr.com', 'dweezel!n=dweezel@65.30.76.6', '*!*@cm100242.red83-165.mundo-r.com', 'teabot!i=xclan@fiji.dreamhost.com', '*!i=3ff59f4e@gateway/*', '*!*@153.sub-75-198-134.myvzw.com', (6 more messages)
19:10 <luke-jr> ]more
19:10 <ljrbot> luke-jr: 'Guy616!n=nobody@c-24-126-170-79.hsd1.ga.comcast.net', '*!*@nonsocial.net', '_mre|*!*@*', '*!*@*.myvzw.com', 'snmpee!n=sxgbs@CPE-24-31-243-62.kc.res.rr.com', 'Krishna!n=fullname@122.49.161.181', '*!i=revived@*', '*!*@ip24-250-174-83.ga.at.cox.net', '*!*@c-24-126-170-79.hsd1.ga.comcast.net', 'JayzusPewp!n=godisdea@xtreme-154-174.dyn.aci.on.ca', 'angelBot!n=angel@60.234.135.193', (5 more messages)
19:10 <luke-jr> ]more
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19:10 <ljrbot> luke-jr: '*!*@fl-71-55-251-1.dhcp.embarqhsd.net', 'ImoutoBot!n=Imouto@adsl-67-117-24-97.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net', 'sjshsjsg!n=browneye@191.sub-75-199-124.myvzw.com', '_mre|666!i=b00hahah@gateway/tor/x-b39a9bc187a2dc81', '*!*@63-245-159-78.kitusa.com', '*!*@pool-96-231-66-237.washdc.east.verizon.net', 'wass!n=wass___@70.94.212.192', 'ivan*!*@*', 'hifjifs_!n=hifjifs@124-197-4-107.callplus.net.nz', (4 more messages)
19:10 <luke-jr> ]more
19:10 <luke-jr> ]more
19:10 <ljrbot> luke-jr: 'armabot!n=armabot@88.215.113.20.static.cablesurf.de', 'downs^bot!n=downs^bo@p4FD56F8E.dip.t-dialin.net', 'clue!n=Think@unaffiliated/clue', '*!*@iraqi.army.isoverrated.com', '*!*@gateway/tor/*', 'PipHog!n=piphogta@unaffiliated/piphog', 'JewsusGeist!n=brokuget@adsl-75-10-116-32.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net', 'Ricco!n=ApplePie@pool-71-250-132-74.nwrknj.east.verizon.net', (3 more messages)
19:10 <luke-jr> ]more
19:10 <nsh22> you ignored imoutobit?
19:10 <ljrbot> luke-jr: 'Reaper`!n=Casper@adsl-99-148-255-87.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net', '*!*@unaffiliated/politihal', '*!*@ip565002c4.direct-adsl.nl', 'joeblob!i=fook@joo.got.haxored.net', '*!*@*.sub-75-199-124.myvzw.com', 'nopatop!n=nopatop@cpc1-cowc4-0-0-cust771.renf.cable.ntl.com', '*!*@2002:3ff5:9f4e:*', '*!*@cpe-76-178-252-151.maine.res.rr.com', 'desu!n=me@unaffiliated/desu', (2 more messages)
19:10 <ivantis2> ivan*!*@*
19:10 <ljrbot> luke-jr: 'modulus!n=DAVID@cm100242.red83-165.mundo-r.com', '*!*@202.sub-70-211-129.myvzw.com', 'Ricco!n=ApplePie@pool-71-250-201-124.nwrknj.east.verizon.net', '*!*@prune.juice.or.poonjuice.us', '*!*ivan*@*.kitusa.com', '*!*@adsl-76-215-1-97.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net', 'FIRESIDE91!n=fireside@75-165-150-172.spkn.qwest.net', 'DrJoeTron!n=DrJoeTro@adsl-76-215-1-97.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net', (1 more message)
19:10 <ivantis2> i saw it
19:10 <ljrbot> luke-jr: 'kerusso!n=kerusso@c-24-20-221-36.hsd1.mn.comcast.net', 'dweezel!n=dweezel@CPE-65-30-76-6.kc.res.rr.com', 'smoothice!n=smoothic@unaffiliated/smoothice', 'downs^bot!n=downs^bo@p4FD574E4.dip.t-dialin.net', 'Lucidiot!n=john@S010600105a100929.ss.shawcable.net', and '*!*@143.sub-70-211-143.myvzw.com'
19:10 <luke-jr> ]admin ignore remove *!*@unaffiliated/ivantis
19:10 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
19:10 <ivantis2> ]ping
19:10 <nsh22> '*!*@63-245-159-78.kitusa.com'
19:10 <luke-jr> ]admin ignore remove ivan*!*@*
19:10 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
19:11 <ivantis2> ]ping
19:11 <ljrbot> pong
19:11 <luke-jr> ]admin ignore remove *!*ivan*@*.kitusa.com
19:11 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
19:11 <nsh22> ]y start theme=twg
19:11 <ljrbot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "]yandere" to join.
19:11 <luke-jr> ivantis2: next time, I only remove ONE ignore
19:11 <luke-jr> ivantis2: so if you evade ignores, it won't work
19:11 <luke-jr> ]admin ignore remove *!*@63-245-159-78.kitusa.com
19:11 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
19:11 <ivantis2> heh i just got something from 6 weeks ago
19:11 <luke-jr> ivantis2: got it?
19:11 <luke-jr> ]y
19:11 <ivantis2> ]y
19:12 <luke-jr> ivantis2: got it⁇?
19:12 <ivantis2> yah
19:12 <ivantis2> got it
19:12 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
19:12 <nsh22> ]ye
19:12 <ljrbot> Added another waiting extension.
19:13 <ivantis2> luke-jr, do you know java?
19:13 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
19:13 <nsh22> luke-jr: what if someone named end wanted to play?
19:13 <luke-jr> I know everything.
19:13 <luke-jr> nsh22: what if?
19:13 <luke-jr> be careful to use ]vote
19:13 <nsh22> if you wanted to vote for them, you yould tpe ]y end :P
19:14 <luke-jr> no
19:14 <luke-jr> ]vote end
19:14 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The game hasn't started yet.
19:14 <luke-jr> nsh22: I don't see your branch
19:14 <ljrbot> There aren't enough players to start the Worm Game. Try again later.
19:14 <luke-jr> ]ye
19:14 <ljrbot> luke-jr: There's no game here.
19:14 <luke-jr> too late
19:14 <luke-jr> oh well
19:14 <nsh22> my branch?
19:14 <nsh22> for what?
19:14 <ivantis2> luke-jr, you need to go to #android
19:14 -!- g4p [n=jp@p4FCE4DCD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
19:14 <ivantis2> get a G1 and write some apps
19:15 <ivantis2> like porting armagetron to Android
19:15 <luke-jr> nsh22: Yandere
19:15 -!- g4p [n=jp@p4FCE4DCD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #armagetron
19:15 <luke-jr> ivantis2: G1/Android suck
19:15 <nsh22> ]y start theme=twg
19:15 <ljrbot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "]yandere" to join.
19:15 <ivantis2> luke-jr, why?:
19:15 <luke-jr> Yandere in #Anime
19:15 <nsh22> ]y end
19:15 <ljrbot> The Worm Game game has been forced to end.
19:15 <luke-jr> ivantis2: usual proprietary crap mainly
19:15 <ivantis2> huh?
19:16 <luke-jr> ivantis2: join #anime
19:16 <luke-jr> ivantis2: anything non-Free is bad
19:16 <ivantis2> non-free?
19:16 <ivantis2> its free
19:16 <luke-jr> nope
19:16 <luke-jr> that's just a marketting gimmick
19:17 <ivantis2> how is it not free?
19:17 <ivantis2> dont buy a phone, just get the SDK
19:17 <luke-jr> you can't modify anything?
19:17 <luke-jr> …
19:17 <luke-jr> G1 is a phone
19:17 <luke-jr> and a SDK by itself is useless
19:17 <ivantis2> ...
19:17 <ivantis2> it comes with an emulator
19:17 <ivantis2> i wrote a few apps, but they suck
19:18 <luke-jr> it's useless
19:18 <ivantis2> how??
19:18 <luke-jr> …
19:18 <luke-jr> forget it
19:18 <ivantis2> anyway, what do you mean you can modify anything?
19:18  * nsh22 forund a definition of ivantis!
19:19 <nsh22> luser (plural lusers)
19:19 <nsh22> (computing, slang, derogatory) A person who does not have the ability to use computers.
19:19 <nsh22> (computing, slang, derogatory) A user (especially in IRC) who disobeys the rules of the servers that he or she is using and usually resorts to disruptive or offensive behavior/behaviour.
19:19 <nsh22> both apply :P
19:19 <ivantis2> how the fuck do i disobey rules? i got k-lined once because the staff couldnt get in contact with me
19:20 <ivantis2> and i have the ability to use computers
19:21 <nsh22> ivantis2: joke mehbeh?
19:21 <ivantis2> ...hilarious
19:22 <ivantis2> luke-jr, #android
19:22 <ivantis2> now
19:24 -!- emmy_arma [n=peiaeman@pc240018.static.is.airbites.ro] has quit ["Leaving"]
19:27 <zurd> ding ding ding, work is done time for fun!
19:27 <nsh22> thats what she said :P
19:27 <zurd> :o
19:29 <nsh22> im on chapter 10/19, due by monday :P
19:31 -!- ivantis2 [n=ivantis@ppp-70-243-243-83.dsl.wchtks.swbell.net] has quit ["Leaving"]
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19:33 <zurd> wow
19:33 <nsh22> what you do now?
19:35 -!- Pathetique [n=chatzill@adsl-99-149-86-158.dsl.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net] has joined #armagetron
19:35 <Concord> #si cafe
19:41 <nsh22> ]si cafe
19:41 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: "si" is not a valid command.
19:41 -!- arrow1 [n=euclid@adsl-dyn40.78-99-184.t-com.sk] has quit ["Leaving."]
19:52 <dlh> ]tea
19:52 <ljrbot> dlh: Fortress Café: Players (11/32): -=WOD=- grass, 1200, Aiphaton, berkstud, Blackeagle, bloc, Ct_Concord, preSsure, stax, WithGlasses, ~|DS|~zion
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20:01 <Vanhayes> ]tea
20:01 <ljrbot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (13/32): -=WOD=- grass, 1200, akira, berkstud, Blackeagle, Ct_Concord, preSsure, stax, wHaTuP, WithGlasses, `WwRudycantfail, ~*SP*~Magic, ~|DS|~zion
20:01 <Concord> 6v6
20:01 <Vanhayes> hmm cafe isnt showing up for me
20:02 <Vanhayes> oj nvrm there it is
20:04 <Vanhayes> not sure why im asking here, But by chance does anyone know what, if any, requirments there are to enroll in EMT courses?
20:07 -!- nniveus [n=nniveus@cpe-67-241-6-117.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
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20:54 <Concord> i don't know about canada
20:55 <Concord> I think you need to have first aid & cpr/aed
20:55 <Concord> likely more
20:56 <Concord> maybe instructor certification for first aid cpr/aed
20:56 <Concord> Vanhayes:
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21:35 <Pathetique_> Bah.
21:35 <Pathetique_> SET_ZONE_POSITION dun work. x_x
21:41 -!- GodTodd_ [n=TheTruth@pool-173-74-72-105.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
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21:47 <nsh22> luke-jr: i have a question about catholicism
21:55 <Pathetique_> luke-jr's answer: its gay. stfu. rtfm.
21:55 -!- Pathetique_ is now known as Pathetique
21:56 <nsh22> Pathetique: hes a roman catholic i beleive
21:56 <Pathetique> LOL
21:56 <Pathetique> kk
21:56 <Pathetique> g2g
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22:14 <Concord> ]tea
22:14 <ljrbot> Concord: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
22:14 <nniveus> conc :P
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23:01 <nsh22> any1 in here?
23:06 -!- MaZuffeR [n=mazuffer@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has quit ["Ex-Chat"]
23:33 <PinkTomato> nsh22: seems not
23:33 <nsh22> PinkTomato: lol....
23:33  * nsh22 plays wild west music as a tubleweed passes by
23:33 <PinkTomato> #echo
23:33 <PinkTomato> not even an armabot
23:33 <nsh22> shes gone
23:34 <PinkTomato> it has* gone
23:34 <nsh22> wrtlprnft: isnt armnabot a she
23:34 <PinkTomato> .echo
23:34 <tronner> PinkTomato: (echo <text>) -- Returns the arguments given it. Uses our standard substitute on the string(s) given to it; $nick (or $who), $randomNick, $randomInt, $botnick, $channel, $user, $host, $today, $now, and $randomDate are all handled appropriately.
23:34 <MrBougo> she's an hermaphrodite
23:34 <nsh22> ive been told its a she (i called it an it once)
23:35 <MrBougo> wrtlprnft said it's a she :)
23:35 <nsh22> even ask Lucifer
23:35 <MrBougo> a while ago
23:35 <PinkTomato> pah, its a robot...
23:35 <nsh22> http://www.fmylife.com/miscellaneous/197015 <===lmao
23:38 <PinkTomato> Hmmm, I think most of them are lies...
23:38 <nsh22> yeah, but some of them are funny nonetheless
23:41  * epsy booes at PinkTomato 
23:42 <nsh22> its boos
23:42 <nsh22> not boes
23:42 <nsh22> booes*
23:42 <akira_arma> #tea
23:42 <akira_arma> :o
23:43 <PinkTomato> nsh22: they both look wrong
23:43 <PinkTomato> .dic booes
23:43 -!- ivantis2 [n=ivantis@ppp-70-243-243-83.dsl.wchtks.swbell.net] has joined #armagetron
23:46 <epsy> http://quakefour.net/phpnuke/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=65
23:49 <ivantis2> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FYdn8KPi9E
23:50 <PinkTomato> @ping
23:50 <teabot> pong
23:50 <PinkTomato> hmm
23:51 <ivantis2> ]echo epsy: man that guys retarded. there is no such thing as zero ping
23:51 <ljrbot> epsy: man that guys retarded. there is no such thing as zero ping
23:51 <PinkTomato> teabot must only auto @title in tourneys then...
23:51 <nsh22> ivantis2: omg you got something right for a change :P
23:51 <luke-jr> ivantis2: don't abuse ljrbot or you'll be back on ignore
23:52 <luke-jr> nsh22: screw that, I sold servers with NEGATIVE ping almost a year ago
23:52 <luke-jr> I'll be selling more of them in about 2 weeks too
23:52 <nsh22> how??/
23:52 <luke-jr> 11 days to be exact
23:52 <luke-jr> 1 day sale
23:52 <nsh22> that...doesnt...make any sense whatsoever
23:52 <luke-jr> sure it does
23:53 <luke-jr> the server runs in the future
23:53 <luke-jr> and you play in present
23:53 <PinkTomato> That's the day a replica titanic hit our shores according to the paper
23:53 <nsh22> so...it predicts where you will be?
23:53 <luke-jr> nsh22: yep
23:53 <luke-jr> well rather
23:53 <luke-jr> the future part of the server gets your info
23:53 <luke-jr> and sends it back to the server in the present, before it happens
23:53 <PinkTomato> Oh and the spagetti trees
23:54 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: and EA buying Armagetron
23:54 <nsh22> luke-jr: that makes no sense....
23:54 <nsh22> ...
23:54 <luke-jr> nsh22: what? EA buying Armagetron makes no sense?
23:54 <nsh22> no,,,the thing be4
23:54 <luke-jr> …
23:55 <luke-jr> anyhow
23:55 <nsh22> btw,are you not allowed to eat meat on fridays?
23:55 <PinkTomato> nsh22: check yr calendar
23:55 <luke-jr> correct
23:56 <PinkTomato> why might that be so?
23:56 <nsh22> well, what if you had some meat leftovers and they needed to be eaten or thrown out, what would youu do?
23:56 <nsh22> on friday
23:57 <nsh22> PinkTomato: Roman catholics dont eat meat on fridays i dont think
23:57 <PinkTomato> I did not know that.
23:57 <luke-jr> nsh22: probably throw them out I guess
23:58 <luke-jr> or maybe give em to kids who aren't bound
23:58 <nsh22> luke-jr: but would god (in your opinion) rather have you not waste it?
23:58 -!- akira_arma [n=chatzill@77-64-161-27.dynamic.primacom.net] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.7/2009021910]"]
23:59 <luke-jr> sounds like a question for a priest, but waste is not a sin while disobedience is
23:59 <nsh22> hmmm ok

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00:00 <nsh22> cuz i heard of a guy who did that (ate meat on fridays to not let it go to waste)
00:00 <luke-jr> I would try to avoid having leftovers on Friday
00:01 <luke-jr> eg, eat it Thursday in anticipation
00:01 <nsh22> yes..that would work too
00:01 -!- ivantis2 [n=ivantis@ppp-70-243-243-83.dsl.wchtks.swbell.net] has quit ["Leaving"]
00:01 <nsh22> do eggs counbt as meat?
00:02 <MrBougo> depends if there's a well-developed embryo inside
00:03 <luke-jr> no
00:03 <nsh22> i am very interested at the dietary restrictions of other religions
00:13 <epsy> PinkTomato, guru3 asked me to turn it off
00:15 <guru3> ?
00:16 <epsy> [00:51] <PinkTomato>: teabot must only auto @title in tourneys then...
00:16 <epsy> (for links)
00:16 <guru3> ah
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00:16 <PinkTomato> oh, :)
00:17 <epsy> pff luke-jr that's cheap :)
00:18 <luke-jr> epsy: ?
00:18 <epsy> negative-ping technology got way outdated now
00:19 <nsh22> luke-jr: for that dont you just khave rthe client lag behind the server?
00:20 <PinkTomato> nsh22: calendar...
00:20 <nsh22> PinkTomato: huh???
00:20  * luke-jr snickers.
00:20  * nsh22 is dumb
00:20 <PinkTomato> can I tell them?
00:20 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: no
00:21 <nsh22> fml
00:21 <epsy> PinkTomato, no:
00:21 <nsh22> i got it... i think
00:21 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: epsy hehe :)
00:21 <epsy> http://www.quakelive.com/#profile/summary/incubus
00:21 <nsh22> ...
00:22 <luke-jr> if you're not sure, you probably didn't
00:22 <epsy> look at win/loss ratio O_O
00:22 <nsh22> i take it it was a joke?
00:22 <luke-jr> epsy: broken?
00:22 <epsy> no
00:22 <luke-jr> epsy: # in a URI?
00:22 <luke-jr> not as a id elem
00:22 <luke-jr> looks invalid
00:23 <epsy> they abuse #'s for using javascript everywhere
00:23 <luke-jr> evil
00:23 <luke-jr> it doesn't work tho
00:23 <epsy> mainly to avoid the rather long loading times and to have the frined list working
00:23 <epsy> luke-jr, how so?
00:23 <luke-jr> it just sits there
00:23 <luke-jr> "QUAKE LIVE is loading now"
00:24 <epsy> hit ctrl+r
00:24 <luke-jr> then it just reloads 576 images and continues to sit there
00:24 <nsh22> epsy: is that you?
00:24 <nsh22> luke-jr: it loaded for me :P
00:24 <epsy> nsh22, lol no
00:24 <luke-jr> nsh22: f u
00:25 <nsh22> ie7ftw
00:25 <luke-jr> windozeluser
00:25 <epsy> luke-jr, adblock? javascript?
00:25 <luke-jr> "it works in IE" is not an excuse
00:25 <luke-jr> epsy: no;yes
00:25 <epsy> browser?
00:26 <luke-jr> Konqueror 4.2
00:26 <nsh22> do you run a ac or linux?
00:26 <nsh22> mac*
00:26 <luke-jr> Linux ofc
00:26 <epsy> konqueror on a mac lol
00:27 <nsh22> kubuntu?
00:27 <luke-jr> epsy: why not? it runs on Windows too
00:27 <luke-jr> nsh22: no
00:27 <epsy> mm it indeed doesnt load on konq :|
00:27 <nsh22> what version?
00:27 <PinkTomato> Konqueror is on Windows?
00:27 <luke-jr> nsh22: Gentoo
00:27 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: KDE is on Windows
00:27 <nsh22> is it the best?
00:27 <luke-jr> nsh22: they all suck
00:27 <luke-jr> every OS sucks
00:27 <nsh22> so you say linux sucks?
00:27 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: Including the desktop?
00:27 <luke-jr> Linux isn't an OS
00:27 <luke-jr> it's a kernel
00:28 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: ?
00:28 <epsy> pwned!!!!!!!!!111111111
00:28 <nsh22> ...
00:28 <nsh22> so how do all os's suck?
00:28 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: dunno
00:28 <luke-jr> nsh22: they just do
00:28 <luke-jr> there is not a single problem-free OS
00:28 <nsh22> why?
00:28 <luke-jr> because OS are too complex for humans to design
00:28 <luke-jr> :p
00:28 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: I couldn't get the cygwin to work a few years ago :)
00:28 <nsh22> luke-jr: you should make one
00:29 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: duh
00:29 <epsy> nsh22, http://www.quakelive.com/#profile/summary/epsy (no no that's not me)
00:29 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: it was barely started
00:29 <luke-jr> nsh22: I would if I had time.
00:29 <luke-jr> nsh22: see #Utopios
00:29 <nsh22> epsy: fail
00:30 <epsy> how so? :)
00:30 <nsh22> Wins / Losses: 41 / 42
00:30 <PinkTomato> ...
00:30 <epsy> well yeah that's not the same as 700/29
00:31 <nsh22> i currently have 174/23
00:31 <epsy> link
00:31 <nsh22> so...
00:31 <epsy> or lie
00:31 <nsh22> :P
00:31 <nsh22> i dont even play quake
00:31 <epsy> so lie
00:31 <nsh22> yeah
00:31 <epsy> >:)
00:31 <nsh22> O:)
00:32 <nsh22> ok i g2g
00:32 <nsh22> bb
00:32 <PinkTomato> tata
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00:38 <luke-jr> I play nq-glx IIRC
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01:10 <noob13> was there a way to jump ahead in time with the debug recordings?
01:10 <ljrbot> New news from armagetronadbzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1103 Really fixed #251447: names were filtered after reading from...
01:11 <epsy> armagetronad --help
01:11 <noob13> yep, thats where i recall seeing it..
01:11 <noob13> am i blind?
01:12 <noob13> ah, --fastforward
01:12 <noob13> i WAS blind :P
01:13 <luke-jr> noob13: that doesn't jump, note
01:15 <noob13> yeah :D tripped out to it actually fastfording 15 mins of gameplay..
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01:59 <zurd> luke-jr ping
01:59 <luke-jr> sigh
01:59 <luke-jr> what
01:59 <zurd> lol
02:00 <zurd> how do i view mail to the server?
02:00 <zurd> and the armaserver went down =\
02:01 <noob13> .tea
02:01 <tronner> noob13: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
02:01 <noob13> .sd fort
02:01 <tronner> noob13: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.0xffff88: 0xffff88Players (7/14): bloc, Hype, OreoZe, Petro, Player 2, Wills24, ~|DS|~zion
02:01 <luke-jr> zurd: what?
02:01 <zurd> luke-jr the server says i have one new mail
02:01 <zurd> whats the command to view it
02:01 <luke-jr> RTFM
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02:02 <noob13> :P
02:03 <zurd> provide me with one
02:03 <luke-jr> not my job
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02:03 <luke-jr> lol
02:03 <luke-jr> I was actually half expecting an argument out of that one.
02:04 <luke-jr> honestly, I have no clue myself how to read that mail
02:04 <luke-jr> XD
02:04 <dlh> mail
02:05 <ct|kyle> vim + /mail/<username>
02:05 <luke-jr> dlh: o rly?
02:05 <ct|kyle> :P
02:05 <luke-jr> 'w' said he was running that XD
02:06 <ct|kyle> vim + /var/mail/<username>
02:06 <luke-jr> I think by now he I should ensure he realizes that with an unmanaged VPS, my job ends at the part where he can SSH to it and all the resources he pays for are there
02:06 <luke-jr> that's why it's cheaper than Arma hosting
02:08 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: that's what you'd expect, right? :p
02:11 <ljrbot> New news from armagetronadbzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r663 merging with mainline r1103
02:16 <luke-jr> …
02:16 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: ⁇?
02:26 <noob13> .bet :P
02:26 <tronner> You have to place a valid bet!
02:26 <noob13> .bet 1
02:26 <tronner> Can't bet 1! You only have 0!
02:26 <noob13> .bet plzdonate
02:26 <tronner> A donation of 2 has been sent to noob13.
02:26 <noob13> .bet 2
02:26 <tronner> You rolled 7. tronner rolled 8. You lost 2! User noob13 now has 0 :(
02:26  * noob13 hates this game
02:31 <luke-jr> .bet 1
02:31 <tronner> You rolled 11. tronner rolled 6. You win 1! User luke-jr now has 10 :)
02:31 <luke-jr> .bet 5
02:31 <tronner> Both rolled 9! Nobody won!
02:31 <luke-jr> .bet 5
02:31 <tronner> Both rolled 8! Nobody won!
02:31 <luke-jr> .bet 5
02:31 <tronner> You rolled 8. tronner rolled 2. You win 5! User luke-jr now has 15 :)
02:31 <luke-jr> .bet 5
02:31 <tronner> You rolled 8. tronner rolled 2. You win 5! User luke-jr now has 20 :)
02:31 <luke-jr> .bet 5
02:31 <tronner> Both rolled 5! Nobody won!
02:31 <luke-jr> .bet 5
02:31 <tronner> You rolled 8. tronner rolled 5. You win 5! User luke-jr now has 25 :)
02:31 <luke-jr> :DF
02:31 <luke-jr> .bet 10
02:31 <tronner> You rolled 5. tronner rolled 7. You lost 10! User luke-jr now has 15 :(
02:31 <luke-jr> .bet 10
02:31 <tronner> You rolled 9. tronner rolled 4. You win 10! User luke-jr now has 25 :)
02:31 <luke-jr> .bet 10
02:31 <tronner> You rolled 12. tronner rolled 6. You win 10! User luke-jr now has 35 :)
02:31 <luke-jr> .bet 10
02:31 <tronner> You rolled 3. tronner rolled 4. You lost 10! User luke-jr now has 25 :(
02:31 <luke-jr> .bet 10
02:31 <tronner> Both rolled 4! Nobody won!
02:31 <luke-jr> .bet 10
02:31 <tronner> You rolled 8. tronner rolled 9. You lost 10! User luke-jr now has 15 :(
02:31 <luke-jr> :<
02:34 <dlh> .bet -10
02:34 <tronner> Can't gamble negative values, Oo!
02:35 <noob13> .bet plzdonate
02:35 <tronner> A donation of 7 has been sent to noob13.
02:35 <noob13> .bet 5
02:35 <tronner> You rolled 6. tronner rolled 5. You win 5! User noob13 now has 12 :)
02:35 <noob13> .bet 10
02:35 <tronner> You rolled 11. tronner rolled 5. You win 10! User noob13 now has 22 :)
02:36 <noob13> .bet 10
02:36 <tronner> Both rolled 7! Nobody won!
02:36 <noob13> .bet 20
02:36 <tronner> You rolled 9. tronner rolled 4. You win 20! User noob13 now has 42 :)
02:36 <noob13> .bet 0
02:36 <tronner> You rolled 5. tronner rolled 6. You lost 0! User noob13 now has 42 :(
02:36 <noob13> .bet 40
02:36 <tronner> You rolled 4. tronner rolled 10. You lost 40! User noob13 now has 2 :(
02:37  * noob13 apologises for the spam
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02:38 <noob13> hey G5
02:39 <Vanhayes> .bet 1000
02:39 <tronner> New user Vanhayes has 100 credits to gamble! Good luck! :D
02:39 <Vanhayes> .bet 100
02:39 <tronner> You rolled 7. tronner rolled 5. You win 100! User Vanhayes now has 200 :)
02:40 <Vanhayes> .bet help
02:40 <tronner> You have to place a valid bet!
02:40 <Vanhayes> .help bet
02:40 <tronner> Vanhayes: (bet <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch [echo http://users.jyu.fi/~ilpale/dice.php?usr=$nick&bet=@1+@2+@3+@4&bot=tronner]".
02:40 <Vanhayes> .bet 100
02:40 <tronner> You rolled 3. tronner rolled 10. You lost 100! User Vanhayes now has 100 :(
02:40 <Vanhayes> .bet 100
02:40 <tronner> You rolled 4. tronner rolled 11. You lost 100! User Vanhayes now has 0 :(
02:40 <Vanhayes> .bet 100
02:40 <tronner> Can't bet 100! You only have 0!
02:40 <Vanhayes> .bet 0
02:40 <tronner> You rolled 7. tronner rolled 3. You win 0! User Vanhayes now has 0 :)
02:41 <dlh> .bet
02:41 <tronner> You have to place a valid bet!
02:41 <Vanhayes> and that is the danger of gambling kids
02:42 <dlh> .bet 0.000000000000000001
02:42 <tronner> You rolled 10. tronner rolled 3. You win 0.000000000000000001! User dlh now has 115.3 :)
02:43 <dlh> \o/
02:44 <noob13> .bet top
02:44 <tronner> [1] nniveus: 400 [2] nsh22: 300 [3] Karambol: 170 [4] pilot1123: 147 [5] dlh: 115.3 [6] mama: 107 [7] plt: 100.01 [8] ctkyle: 100 [9] Caemyr: 100 [10] $nick: 100 [11] Banan: 100 [12] kahukai: 100 [13] morsik: 78 [14] MrBougo: 52 [15] Milya0: 40
02:44 <cpayan> .bet 50
02:44 <tronner> New user cpayan has 100 credits to gamble! Good luck! :D
02:44 <cpayan> err
02:44 <cpayan> .dotdot
02:45 <cpayan> .bet 10
02:45 <tronner> You rolled 5. tronner rolled 7. You lost 10! User cpayan now has 90 :(
02:45 <cpayan> i don't trust this bot. not since i found out .8ball was a sham
02:45 <cpayan> :)
02:45 <cpayan> .bet 10
02:45 <tronner> You rolled 7. tronner rolled 8. You lost 10! User cpayan now has 80 :(
02:45 <cpayan> .bet 10
02:46 <tronner> You rolled 9. tronner rolled 4. You win 10! User cpayan now has 90 :)
02:46 <noob13> by all logic, chances of winning should be equal to those of losing..
02:46 <noob13> still i always end up with no money at all
02:49 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: pretty much so unless he wants reload
02:49 <luke-jr> ?
02:50 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: about unmanages vps
02:50 <luke-jr> .bet 5
02:50 <tronner> Both rolled 10! Nobody won!
02:50 <luke-jr> .bet 5
02:50 <tronner> You rolled 6. tronner rolled 7. You lost 5! User luke-jr now has 10 :(
02:50 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: ah, right
02:50 <luke-jr> .bet 5
02:50 <tronner> You rolled 6. tronner rolled 9. You lost 5! User luke-jr now has 5 :(
02:50 <luke-jr> .bet 1
02:50 <tronner> You rolled 12. tronner rolled 6. You win 1! User luke-jr now has 6 :)
02:50 <luke-jr> .bet 1
02:50 <tronner> You rolled 7. tronner rolled 4. You win 1! User luke-jr now has 7 :)
02:50 <luke-jr> .bet 1
02:50 <tronner> You rolled 6. tronner rolled 8. You lost 1! User luke-jr now has 6 :(
02:50 <luke-jr> .bet 1
02:50 <tronner> You rolled 7. tronner rolled 9. You lost 1! User luke-jr now has 5 :(
02:50 <luke-jr> .bet 1
02:50 <tronner> You rolled 5. tronner rolled 3. You win 1! User luke-jr now has 6 :)
02:50 <luke-jr> .bet 1
02:50 <tronner> You rolled 12. tronner rolled 6. You win 1! User luke-jr now has 7 :)
02:50 <luke-jr> .bet 1
02:50 <tronner> You rolled 9. tronner rolled 7. You win 1! User luke-jr now has 8 :)
02:50 <luke-jr> .bet 2
02:50 <tronner> You rolled 7. tronner rolled 10. You lost 2! User luke-jr now has 6 :(
02:51 <luke-jr> .bet 2
02:51 <tronner> You rolled 10. tronner rolled 4. You win 2! User luke-jr now has 8 :)
02:51 <luke-jr> .bet 2
02:51 <tronner> You rolled 11. tronner rolled 4. You win 2! User luke-jr now has 10 :)
02:51 <luke-jr> .bet 5
02:51 <tronner> You rolled 4. tronner rolled 8. You lost 5! User luke-jr now has 5 :(
02:51 <luke-jr> f u
02:52  * noob13 agrees
02:52 <ct|kyle> .rape bet
02:52 <tronner> ct|kyle: The operation succeeded.
02:53 <noob13> we don't have an #armagetron-botspam yet? ;P
02:53 <luke-jr> ]y start theme=twg
02:54 <noob13> ]ye
02:54 <ljrbot> Added another waiting extension.
02:54 <noob13> eh
02:54 <noob13> ]yandere
02:55 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
02:56 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
02:57 <ljrbot> There aren't enough players to start the Worm Game. Try again later.
03:04 <noob13> .servers
03:04 <tronner> noob13: This data is 56 seconds old; The YELLOW Submarine (11/12), Wild West  =Sumo= (9/14), ~*AcE.Arcane Energy ¦Sumo¦ (8/12), |FA| Black Tar! (7/16), Swampland Mud Puddle (6/8), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (6/12), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (6/10), Wild West  =Capture The Flag Saloon= (5/10), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (5/12), ~Night Walker's Central~DF~ (4/16), {Delicious Desserts} (1 more message)
03:04 <noob13> .sd swamp
03:04 <tronner> noob13: Swampland Mud Puddle0xffff88: 0xffff88Players (6/8): Aero:0x, Ashervinia, Bill H. Fox, Cracker, kamp, matthew
03:05 <Vanhayes> .8ball
03:06 <Vanhayes> .bet 10
03:06 <Vanhayes> .ping
03:06 <tronner> pong
03:07 <Vanhayes> .rape ping
03:07 <Vanhayes> .rape Vanhayes
03:07 <ct|kyle> :P
03:08 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: civ? Lucifer?
03:09 <Vanhayes> nah im heading out in a few minutes
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03:09 <noob13> or perhaps a nice match of fortress?
03:09 <zurd> .tea
03:09 <tronner> zurd: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
03:09 <luke-jr> hi zurd
03:09 <luke-jr> did u figure it out
03:09 <zurd> havent yet
03:09 <luke-jr> hum
03:10 <luke-jr> babybug said it was 'mail'
03:10 <luke-jr> O.o
03:10 <zurd> yeah, thats what i figured, but then i cant get back into my root account
03:10 <luke-jr> …
03:10 <luke-jr> man mail?
03:11 <zurd> i didnt know there were built in manuals..
03:14 <dlh> q quits
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03:28 <HyperDrive> hey all
03:28 <HyperDrive> hows things
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04:02 <Galenus> Hello.
04:03 <Galenus> Is anyone on?
04:03 <Galenus> I guess not...
04:03 <luke-jr> Galenus: ?
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04:09 <ct|kyle> heh
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04:48 <noob13> http://www.trutv.com/video/most-shocking/worst-burglar-ever.html#link=truTVshlk
04:48 <noob13> Oo
04:48 <noob13> gn.
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05:03 <cpayan> .bet 10
05:07 <luke-jr> no
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07:38 <Lucifer> luke-jr: man, I just woke up, no civ for me
07:38 <Lucifer> er, looks like I've been up for a couple of hours, anyway
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10:14 <ljrbot> New news from armagetronadbzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1104 Fixed last commit....
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12:58 <PinkTomato> armabuilder: help
12:58 <armabuilder> Get help on what? (try 'help <foo>', or 'commands' for a command list)
12:59 <PinkTomato> armabuilder: help <foo>
12:59 <armabuilder> no such command '<foo>'
12:59 <PinkTomato> >.<
12:59 <PinkTomato> armabuilder: commands
12:59 <armabuilder> buildbot commands: commands, dance, destroy, excited, force, hello, help, join, last, leave, list, notify, source, status, stop, version, watch
12:59 <PinkTomato> armabuilder: dance
12:59 <armabuilder> 0-<
12:59 <armabuilder> 0-/
12:59 <armabuilder> 0-\
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12:59 <PinkTomato> armabuilder: excited
12:59 <armabuilder> What you say!
13:00 <PinkTomato> Oh yeah!
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18:15 <noob13> .tea
18:15 <tronner> noob13: Fortress Café: Players (11/32): Concord, Guybrush, juice keeper, Lackadaisical, noob44, stax, WithGlasses, Zop, ~|DS|~ Judders, ~|DS|~G5, ~|DS|~zion
18:15 <Concord> come play
18:15 <Concord> madmax and Lizmatic too
18:16 <Concord> and akira_arma
18:16 <akira_arma> :o
18:16 <akira_arma> k
18:26 <cpayan> my hope: eventually people will stop complaining about "closed" and "sealed" and realize they're both in their head, and given enough effort, any grind is beatable
18:26 <akira_arma> thats wrong
18:26 <akira_arma> you cant beat any grind
18:26 <akira_arma> also
18:26 <akira_arma> closed/open is just some made up stuff
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18:33 <cpayan> I've yet to encounter a really unbeatable grind
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18:38 <akira_arma> its a simple theoretical question
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19:58 <epsy> still no idea with that damn automap and the AI
20:02 <epsy> I think I can't go further
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20:17 <Zurd> i wish the server make tutorial was a lil more help full lmao(dont respond)
20:18 <epsy> sorry, is that english?
20:18 <Zurd> dont think so
20:18 <luke-jr> XD
20:18 <Zurd> the server make tutorial on the wiki is fail
20:18  * luke-jr personally is biased against easy server setup :p
20:18 <Zurd> i know luke >.<
20:20 <luke-jr> Zurd: #anime
20:23 <Zurd> whats the point in that?
20:25 <Zurd> luke-jr yer wierd
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20:32 <cpayan> hah
20:32 <luke-jr> if he waited more than 2 minutes for an answer, I'd have had one
20:32 <luke-jr> :p
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21:18 <ljrbot> New news from armagetronadbzr: [trunk-cmake] r905 Sweeped autostuff....
21:18 <luke-jr> SWEPT‼!
21:20 <epsy> :x
21:21 <cpayan> .bet 20
21:21 <cpayan> so tronner is no longer feeding my gambling addiction?
21:21 <epsy> you mean your spamming addiction?
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21:45 <nsh22> hello everyone!
21:46 <Vanhayes> .hello
21:46 <tronner> Hello :) [q]
21:46 <Vanhayes> .q
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22:06 <cpayan> .ping
22:06 <tronner> pong
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22:08 <nsh22> luke-jr: how do you lock servers at a certain amount of clients (so the admins cant even change it?)
22:08 <nsh22> zurd: hai
22:08 <zurd> nsh22: hai
22:08 <luke-jr> nsh22: a special hosting patch
22:08 <nsh22> luke-jr: :(
22:09 <luke-jr> nsh22: the 0.2.8.2.1 that came in /root has it applied, you can use --enable-hosted to turn it on
22:09 <luke-jr> then add a "slots=N" to SvcConfig
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22:09 <nsh22> ok
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22:09 <luke-jr> no worries, your control panel included that ☺
22:10 <nsh22> so in say, putty, i would just type --enable-hosted?
22:10 <luke-jr> … no
22:10 <luke-jr> it's a configure option
22:10 <luke-jr> go in the dir and type: head config.log
22:10 <luke-jr> to see what it was configured with before
22:10 <luke-jr> then add that on top of it
22:10 <nsh22> ah ok
22:11 <luke-jr> note the configure options already there are also important to the control panel
22:11 <nsh22> zurd: your reading this too? im likely to fuck it up :P
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22:11 <luke-jr> also note that if you enable hosted, I don't know what happens if you forget to put slots=N in SvcConfig
22:11 <zurd> nsh22: im right there with you
22:11 <nsh22> ok
22:11 <luke-jr> so make sure you put slots=32 in all your own servers if you want to
22:11 <nsh22> ill make sure i put it in
22:11 <luke-jr> or just move MAX_CLIENTS setting to them
22:11 <luke-jr> ☺
22:11 <nsh22> oh, it would apply to all servers?
22:12 <luke-jr> all servers using that version you build
22:12 <luke-jr> you could make it a seperate version
22:12 <luke-jr> in which case
22:12 <luke-jr> cp -a 0.2.8.2.1 0.2.8.2.1-hosted
22:12 <luke-jr> and append -hosted to the multislot argumetn
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22:12 <luke-jr> then add -hosted to the version in SvcConfig
22:12 <luke-jr> etc
22:12 <nsh22> ah, ok
22:12 <luke-jr> ☺
22:13 <nsh22> i j abele to do thiis :P
22:13 <nsh22> ...
22:13 <nsh22> i fuckled up my typeing agian
22:13 <luke-jr> might want to backup if you're uncertain ☺
22:13 <nsh22> You chose to end the nonresponsive program, Windows Explorer.
22:13 <luke-jr> <.<
22:13 <nsh22> wtf, i didnt clse shit?
22:14 <nsh22> fuck you windows
22:14 <luke-jr> >_<
22:14 <luke-jr> [16:13:57] <kopete> do you know ICQ client for KDE?
22:14 <luke-jr> lol?
22:14 <nsh22> i hate it and love it at the same time...
22:15 -!- ivantis2 is now known as ivantis
22:15 <ivantis> luke-jr, what were you saying about android the other day? how you couldnt do whatever you wanted?
22:16 <luke-jr> correct
22:16 <ivantis> but why do you say that?
22:19 <luke-jr> it's true
22:19 <ivantis> no, its not
22:20 <luke-jr> yes it is
22:20 <ivantis> what can you not do?
22:20 <ivantis> android is linux
22:20 -!- HyperDrive [n=chatzill@5ac956ea.bb.sky.com] has joined #armagetron
22:20 <luke-jr> look, here's the essential principle of Freedom:
22:20 <HyperDrive> hello
22:20 <luke-jr> you need to be able to change any aspect you want
22:20 <nsh22> herro hypodwive
22:20 <HyperDrive> nsh22 are you drunk
22:21 <ivantis> dude, you can. give me an example
22:21 <luke-jr> ivantis: The bootloader on G1 will not allow you to change anything about Linux on it
22:21 <luke-jr> unless your Linux is signed with a key
22:21 <ivantis> you can change the bootloader
22:21 <luke-jr> technically, that key is part of the source code and they are required to provide it to you
22:21 <nsh22> HyperDrive: have you ever seen team americca?
22:21 <luke-jr> but they don't
22:21 <luke-jr> ivantis: not officially
22:21 <luke-jr> maybe there's a hack to change it
22:21 <ivantis> yeah, so?
22:21 <HyperDrive> not yet, ive seen it advertised on tv a few times
22:21 <ivantis> t-mobile doesnt mind
22:22 <luke-jr> if they didn't mind, WHY IS IT LOCKED IN THE FIRST PLACE?
22:22 <nsh22> HyperDrive: anyway, i was imitating kim jon Il from the movie
22:22 <HyperDrive> oh ok :D
22:22 <HyperDrive> XD
22:22 <luke-jr> anyhow, ivantis, Google is behind Android, and they DO mind
22:22 <luke-jr> that's why they locked devkit owners out of their app store
22:22 <ivantis> luke-jr, what do they do about it? this morning i got root on my phone, they havent done anything yet
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22:23 <ivantis> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480
22:23 <luke-jr> ivantis: if you get root following Google's "legitimate" methods, they lock you out of the app store
22:23 <HyperDrive> omg ive forgotten 2 things, how to register my nice, my password :P
22:23 <HyperDrive> nick*
22:23 <ivantis> rly? they do?
22:23 <luke-jr> HyperDrive: /msg nickserv help
22:23 <luke-jr> ivantis: yes
22:23 <HyperDrive> ty
22:23 <ivantis> that didnt happen to me
22:24 <ivantis> and its the Android Market, not the shitty apple "App Store"
22:24 <luke-jr> you didn't do it legitimately
22:24 <luke-jr> the "legitimate" method is to pay them $300 or so
22:24 <ivantis> look at that link
22:24 <luke-jr> "app store" is a generic noun
22:24 <HyperDrive> so its /msg nickserv identify password_here
22:24 <HyperDrive> now what do I do about my forgotten password XD
22:25 <luke-jr> ask #Freenode
22:25 <HyperDrive> ty
22:25 <ivantis> ...you pay $300 for something you could do yourself for free,then lock you out of the market
22:25 <ivantis> that is stupid
22:25 <HyperDrive> im there now
22:25 <nsh22> ivantis: thats why luke is against it
22:25 <luke-jr> ivantis: uh, that's like saying "you pay $3000 for Dreamweaver when you could pirate it for free"
22:25 <nsh22> ugh, i gotta go make fondant :(
22:25 <ivantis> anyway, i get internet on my computer anywhere i have service on my phone now
22:26 <luke-jr> ivantis: that usually violates your ToS with your provider
22:26 <luke-jr> ("tethering")
22:26 <HyperDrive> you dont like making fondant ?
22:26 <ivantis> ...
22:26 <ivantis> no
22:26 <nsh22> HyperDrive: never made it from scratch b4
22:27 <HyperDrive> im sure you'll be fine
22:27 <ivantis> its like downloading something to your sd card, mounting it on your computer, then displaying it with your computer
22:27 <ivantis> only faster, and you get udp too
22:27 <luke-jr> …
22:27 <luke-jr> ivantis: no, it isn't
22:27 <ivantis> almost. anyway, tmobile doesnt care
22:27 <ivantis> i dont think
22:27 <luke-jr> it's like how most US ISPs prohibit sharing your connection
22:28 <luke-jr> T-Mobile will care if you use any significant bandwidth, at least
22:28 <luke-jr> eg, if you use file sharing apps on it
22:28 <ivantis> the only reason you need to "hack" it is because they dont have the right driver for wi-fi on it
22:28 <ivantis> t-mobile only cares if you go over 10GB
22:28 <ivantis> even though my plan says unlimited
22:29 <luke-jr> yeah, then they use the tethering ToS violation as an excuse ☺
22:29 <ivantis> im going to read my ToS right now
22:31 <epsy> ah yeah, ops that can't provide what they say they provide
22:31 <nsh22> epsy: ???
22:31 <ivantis> what?????????????????????????????????????????????????
22:32 <ivantis> it says if it goes over 10GB they reduce the speed of transmissions
22:32 <epsy> it's like how BT was pwnt by bbc's online TV channel
22:32 <ivantis> pieces of shit
22:32 <ivantis> and they got something against tethering
22:32 <luke-jr> ☺
22:32 <luke-jr> as expected
22:32 <luke-jr> honestly, I'd love to find something like that
22:32 <nsh22> ivantis: way to prove yourself again :P
22:33 <luke-jr> as long as it can do 56k, I'm happy-
22:33 <ivantis> like what?
22:33 <epsy> then they forbid the use of such services
22:33 <luke-jr> and affordable
22:33 <ivantis> but how are they going to find out?
22:33 <luke-jr> epsy: I don't mind reasonable throttling
22:33 <luke-jr> ivantis: phones don't run p2p
22:33 <ivantis> p2p?
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22:33  * luke-jr smacks idiot
22:33 <ivantis> pier to pier i know
22:33 <ivantis> but what about it?
22:34  * luke-jr smacks idiot
22:34 <ivantis> but what about it?
22:34 <epsy> well, right now I have no throttling at all lol
22:34 <ivantis> how would they find out?
22:34 <luke-jr> epsy: of course you do
22:34 <luke-jr> epsy: there's always a cap
22:34 <epsy> I'm on a testing line, I'm close to alone on it
22:34 <epsy> yes, but it's exactly what they announce
22:34 <luke-jr> ivantis: "if we see BitTorrent, they're obviously tethering because phones don't run BitTorrent"
22:34 <ivantis> epsy, of what?
22:35 <ivantis> luke-jr, why couldnt a phone run bittorrent?
22:35 <nsh22> ivantis: next time you try to convince luke-jr to do something, you better have a damn good case (and do your research so it doesnt include anything illegal or non opensource :P
22:35 <luke-jr> ivantis: it's an assumption
22:35 <nsh22> ivantis: is wasnt designed to
22:35 <ivantis> but someone could easily write an bittorrent app
22:36 <ivantis> but i dont download p0rn or mass music
22:36 <luke-jr> and download a 8 GB DVD to… what storage?
22:36 <nsh22> lies
22:36 <ivantis> ..not a lot
22:36 <nsh22> thats what sd cards are for !
22:36 <ivantis> ...they have 32GB cards for that purpose
22:37 <epsy> heh, I have an 8GB sd card on my phone :)
22:37 <nsh22> kk well im out
22:37 <epsy> microSD
22:38 <nsh22> FONDANT LAND HERE I COME!
22:38 <ivantis> i only have a 1gb microsd for my phone
22:38 <ivantis> maybe i should buy a bigger one
22:39 <epsy> dear lord..do you imagine a 1TB game ..
22:39 <ivantis> for a phone
22:39 <ivantis> epsy, what kind of phone do you have?
22:39 <nsh22> ivantis: u dolt
22:40 <nsh22> ivantis: for a comp
22:40 <ivantis> dude, a 1TB game for phone would be fun
22:40 <ivantis> i has openGL on my phone
22:40 <nsh22> do you think that your phone has the processing power to do it?
22:40 <ivantis> no
22:41 <nsh22> exactly
22:41 <epsy> lol, id5 on a phone
22:41 <epsy> id3 barely runs yet
22:41 <ivantis> wait, i have a few 3d racing games on here. it just needs to take 1 tb is all
22:42 <nsh22> 1tb of USEFUL USED space?
22:42 <ivantis> epsy, are you still have me on ignore?
22:42 <epsy> seriousely I wonder how id is gonna pack their 1TB game up
22:42 <nsh22> epsy: fyi ivantis is speaking...
22:42 <epsy> I know
22:42 <nsh22> ok
22:43 <epsy> how it's gonna fit on two DVDs lol
22:43 <nsh22> and what is 1d5?
22:43 <epsy> id5 not 1d5
22:43 <epsy> it tech 5
22:43 <nsh22> id5*
22:43 <epsy> id *
22:43 <ivantis> ID tech?
22:43 <epsy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Id_Tech_5
22:43 <ivantis> i remember that n000by serveer
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22:44 <ivantis> i wonder if id5 would rfun on my phone
22:44 <ivantis> that would be COOL
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22:54 <HyperDrive> hi hunnys im back, did you mis me
22:55 <ivantis> no
22:55 <HyperDrive> epsy : 7zip ?
22:55 <epsy> 7zip?
22:56 <HyperDrive> for packing your dvd's
22:56 <HyperDrive> or what ever youre ding
22:56 <HyperDrive> doing*
22:56 <ivantis> wtf 7zip
22:57 <HyperDrive> oh
22:57 <HyperDrive> http://www.7-zip.org/
22:57 <ivantis> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FYdn8KPi9E
22:58 <ivantis> did everyone watch that on the tv?
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22:58 <HyperDrive> this torrent problem you could get around it by making a http tunnel thing running on another system
22:58 <HyperDrive> then all your downloads will look like legitimate http requests
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22:59 <HyperDrive> brb
23:00 <ivantis> ,..you didnt need to say brb, none of us are talking to you
23:03 <HyperDrive> thanks not very nice
23:04 <ivantis> #away
23:04 <ivantis> okay wtf happened to armabot?
23:05 <Vanhayes> she ran away from home
23:05 <ivantis> oh right
23:06 <Vanhayes> either that or tronner and ljrbot and the other bots kidnapped her
23:06 <ivantis> .away
23:06 <ivantis> probably both
23:06 <Vanhayes> .ping
23:06 <tronner> pong
23:07 <dlh> ]sd Tournament ONE
23:07 <ljrbot> dlh: Wild West  =Wild Fortress= #Tournament ONE#: Players (14/8): "Judders, 2Tickets2Heaven, CtxWoned, Ct_Concord, ct|Cleveland, ct|Puuquie, CT~Voodoo, elek~S0n1c, Monkey.D.Luffy, _~'Ww_Manta, _~'Ww_WA3YRI, _~`Ww_Destiny, _~`Ww_Force, `WwRudycantfail
23:07 <dlh> 14/8 players?
23:08 <epsy> locked
23:08 <Concord>  /away food
23:09 <epsy> good, now without the space :P
23:09 <epsy> nighty
23:09 <HyperDrive> bye all
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23:16 <dlh> z-man: ping. Can I get some log files with you that contain a lot of chat, for use in testing spam prefixes?
23:16 <dlh> from you*
23:17 <z-man> I'll look, but the server isn't much in use.
23:17 -!- akira_arma [n=chatzill@77-64-161-27.dynamic.primacom.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
23:17 <z-man> Plus, it was down the last days because I was reconfiguring stuff.
23:17 <dlh> Alright.
23:18 -!- Concord [n=Concord@pool-72-93-80-152.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit []
23:18 <dlh> Maybe I can get some café log-files from wrtlprnft
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23:29 <joda_bot> dlh: ask ct|kyle
23:29 <joda_bot> :-)
23:29 <dlh> Does he admin the CT servers?
23:29 <joda_bot> dlh: yes, atleast he got access :-)
23:30 <joda_bot> I just don't know if you need a special configuration (like no spam control, to get good samples)
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23:44 <ivantis> .list
23:44 <tronner> ivantis: Admin, Alias, Anonymous, AutoMode, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, Ctcp, CyborgName, Dict, ExternalControl, Filter, Format, Freenode, Games, Google, Herald, Insult, Internet, Karma, Lart, Later, Math, Misc, MoobotFactoids, Network, Nickometer, Owner, P4, Pastebin, Plugin, Praise, QGoogle, RSS, Reply, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Status, Stock, String, StringEncode, Supybot, Tail, Time, Todo, (1 more message)
23:44 <ivantis> .more
23:44 <tronner> ivantis: Topic, Unix, User, Utilities, Weather, Web, Webserver, and Yahoo
23:44 <ivantis> .list yahoo
23:44 <tronner> ivantis: imagesearch, newssearch, videosearch, and yahoo
23:44 <ivantis> lame
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23:46 <ivantis> .list nickometer
23:46 <tronner> ivantis: nickometer
23:46 -!- ct|kyle [n=kyle@pool-71-97-147-102.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron
23:46 <ivantis> .nickometer ivantis
23:46 <tronner> ivantis: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "ivantis" is 0.0%.
23:46 <ivantis> .nickometer ivantis2
23:46 <tronner> ivantis: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "ivantis2" is 14.2%.
23:47 <ivantis> .nickometer pedobearishere
23:47 <tronner> ivantis: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "pedobearishere" is 0.0%.
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00:08 <madmax> .tea
00:08 <tronner> madmax: timed out
00:08 <madmax> :-o
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00:30 <nsh22> fondants finnaly done
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00:38 <Rajinn> oi!
00:38 <nsh22> ohai!
00:38 <Rajinn> #seen ct|kyle
00:38 <nsh22> try ]
00:38 <nsh22> ]seen ct|kyle
00:38 <ljrbot> nsh22: ct|kyle was last seen in #armagetron 20 hours, 29 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: <ct|kyle> heh
00:42 <Rajinn> does anyone know if it's possible to create a team sumo, where each member of the team is put into a different circle?  Like when you start one member is in circle one, while you are in circle two, possible or not?
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00:58 <ct|kyle> Rajinn: yes it is
00:59 <ct|kyle> Rajinn: subspawn points in sty+ct (I'm not sure if wrtlprnft ported it to main branch)
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01:03 <ct|kyle> oi smoothice
01:03 <smoothice> hi ct|kyle
01:09 <nsh22> luke-jr: what is the commnd on your vps for showing the directories
01:09 <ct|kyle> LOL
01:11 <nsh22> ct|kyle: would you happen to know the debian command?>
01:11 <ct|kyle> ls
01:12 <ct|kyle> .google search linux commands
01:12 <tronner> ct|kyle: bash commands - Linux MAN Pages: <http://www.ss64.com/bash/>; Linux and UNIX find command help: <http://www.computerhope.com/unix/ufind.htm>; Unix/Linux "find" Command Tutorial: <http://www.hccfl.edu/pollock/Unix/FindCmd.htm>
01:13 <Rajinn> yo kyle!
01:14 <ct|kyle> oi Rajinn
01:14 <Rajinn> oiiiii
01:14 <Rajinn> guess who i bee
01:14 <Rajinn> :D
01:14 <Rajinn> you know it!
01:14 <Rajinn> so be it
01:14 <Rajinn> :P
01:14 <ct|kyle> that was what I was guessing
01:14 <Rajinn> OK OK OK soooooooooooo this is possible?
01:14 <ct|kyle> ya
01:14 <Rajinn> where is the download for that version?
01:14 <luke-jr> ………..
01:14 <luke-jr> wtf r u talking about
01:14 <Rajinn> LUKE IS A JR OF HIMSELF
01:15 <Rajinn> diff spawn points in sumo
01:15 <ct|kyle> <spawn (whatever junk goes here)> <spawn (other place)/> </spawn>
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01:15 <Rajinn> team sumo, but your teamate spawns in a diff circle than you
01:15 <nsh22> luke-jr: you talkin to me or him?
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01:15 <luke-jr> nsh22: I'm ignoring your stupid question. because it is stupid.
01:15 <Rajinn> wb sir tank
01:15 <Rajinn> hahah
01:15 <nsh22> ok, next time just tell me plz :P
01:15 <ct|kyle> wrtlprnft added in to sty+ct
01:16 <Rajinn> ohhh so its updated!
01:16 <Rajinn> hooray!
01:16 <ct|kyle> you have to use the sty dtd
01:16 <luke-jr> nsh22: then it wouldn't be ignoring, would it?
01:16 <Rajinn> the wha?
01:16 <Rajinn> dtd?
01:16 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: don't you mean the sty+ct DTD?
01:16 <nsh22> luke-jr: if you told me it was dumb id leave you alone and google it myself :P
01:16 <ct|kyle> no just the sty one has it
01:16 <luke-jr> nsh22: try Google first
01:16 <Rajinn> whats DTD mean?  DEATH TO DOH DOH'S!
01:17 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: why does vanilla sty DTD have it if vanilla sty code doesn't support it?
01:17 <luke-jr> Rajinn: Doc Type Def
01:17 <Rajinn> oh my
01:17 <smoothice> wtf is vanilla?
01:17 <Rajinn> that sounds crazy
01:17 <Rajinn> por favor
01:17 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: ask wrtl http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-ct/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct/revision/658
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01:18 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: sty DTD doesn't have it
01:18 <Rajinn> hold up, that link you just posted looks wild!
01:18 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: spank wrtlprnft for modifying an existing resource
01:18 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: and in teh meantime, fix your codebase by renaming it
01:18 <Rajinn> is it easy kyle to make others spawn in another zone?
01:19 <luke-jr> #]later tell wrtlprnft http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-ct/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct/revision/658 -- BAD modifying existing resource w/o changing version :O
01:19 <luke-jr> should I? :p
01:20 <luke-jr> I wonder if he realizes how that breaks things :x
01:20 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: actually
01:20 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: when he originally added it he put it in the sty+ct one
01:20 <luke-jr> …
01:21 <ct|kyle> so it is just a matter of reverting that back
01:21 <luke-jr> it really shouldn't be under AATeam either
01:22 <luke-jr> should be under groundpig or Your_mom or CT
01:22 <luke-jr> hah
01:22 <luke-jr> it was
01:22 <luke-jr> until z-man moved it
01:22 <luke-jr> wonder if z-man meant to imply it was an official DTD
01:22 <ct|kyle> heh
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01:23 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: voodoo needs spanking too
01:23 <luke-jr> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-ct/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct/revision/577'
01:23 <luke-jr> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-ct/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct/revision/577
01:23 <luke-jr> tho wrtlprnft seems to have reverted that
01:23 <luke-jr> go figure
01:23 <luke-jr> O.o
01:24 <ct|kyle> so I was the only smart one that added a new one LOL
01:24 <Rajinn> yesh you are generally smart ol smart one
01:24 <ct|kyle> although I put it in aaTeam
01:25 <luke-jr> well, I guess the AATeam "problem" gets fixed when we merge support for them
01:26 <ct|kyle> but I know some people depend on that dtd so really can't move it now on them
01:26 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: ?
01:26 <nsh22> luke-jr: umm i tried the cp thing and i got this: `omiting directory blah blah blah
01:26 <ct|kyle> map-0.2.8.0_sty+ct2.dtd
01:26 <luke-jr> oh
01:26 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: the _pig2 one is the only real problem AFAIK
01:26 <luke-jr> because it will break stuff
01:26 <ct|kyle> ya
01:27 <luke-jr> eg, Player 1 connects to a vanilla sty server, gets original DTD
01:27 <luke-jr> then tries to play on CT server referencing the modified DTD
01:27 <luke-jr> = error
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01:27 <luke-jr> nsh22: I did say -a
01:27 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: it has been reverted back though
01:27 <nsh22> ah ty
01:27 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: good ☺
01:27 <ct|kyle> <!ATTLIST Zone effect (win | death | fortress | ball | flag) "death" >
01:27 <luke-jr> now any such error will be consistent
01:27 <luke-jr> eg, always error, not randomly
01:28 <nsh22> wewt it worked
01:28 <luke-jr> random error is worse than consistent error
01:28 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: how hard do you think chat filters will be to add
01:28 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: wtf is that
01:28 <ct|kyle> like being able to filter out chat like Fuck replaced by ****
01:29 <luke-jr> probably won't be hard
01:29 <luke-jr> but we're still working on sty ;)
01:29 <ct|kyle> I know
01:30 <ct|kyle> but I know a lot of people would probably be happy with that too, and I don't think it would be too hard to do
01:30 <luke-jr> make a branch :p
01:31 <ct|kyle> I know
01:31 <nniveus> hellooooooooo
01:31 <ct|kyle> I also want to backport it to sty+ct for now until sty+ct is done in v2
01:31 <ct|kyle> should be almost the same though
01:32 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: do trunk first
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01:35 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: I'll do them at same time, probably so close to the same code
01:35 <nniveus> #armatwgetron?
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01:38 <luke-jr> …
01:38 <luke-jr> nniveus: #anime for yandere
01:38 <nniveus> ~_~
01:38 <nniveus> #anime for no uhhh...no ;(
01:40 <nsh22> luke-jr: i typed in --enable-hosting and it didnt work
01:40 <luke-jr> nsh22: I am NOT repeating the earlier conversation over
01:40 <luke-jr> nsh22: go read your logs
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01:57 <nniveus> mm back
01:57 <nniveus> lol that's the way to go luke, scare everyone off irc ;)
02:08 <luke-jr> nniveus: he spent 6 minutes playing a game in #anime before leaving
02:08 <luke-jr> :o
02:12 <nniveus> now there's no way im entering
02:17 <noob13> HI!
02:17 <noob13> #tea
02:17 <noob13> .tea
02:17 <tronner> noob13: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
02:17 <noob13> armabot still lost in the webz?
02:18 <noob13> .servers
02:18 <tronner> noob13: This data is 8 seconds old; Wild West  =Tag Team Sumo= (12/8), The YELLOW Submarine (11/12), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (10/12), ~Night Walker's Central~DF~ (9/16), Wild West  =Sumo= (9/14), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (9/10), Swampland Mud Puddle (8/8), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (8/10), {Delicious Desserts} High Rubber (7/10), ***** [ICP] =Nano CTF= ***** (7/10), |FA| Black Tar! (6/16), -=}ID< (1 more message)
02:19 <nniveus> noob13 :)
02:19 <noob13> pff, gotta stop the sub and force them to play fortress ;P
02:19 <noob13> hey nniveus!
02:20 <nniveus> what sub?
02:20 <noob13> the yellow sub :P
02:20 <noob13> .ys
02:20 <tronner> noob13: The YELLOW Submarine0xffff88: 0xffff88Players (11/12): Alex, cunt, Data Storm, flower, HighlanderPT, LiTtLe RuDeS, LOSER, N3W4NG3Lu$, Player 0, PoCho, SoNa
02:20 <luke-jr> .help ys
02:20 <tronner> luke-jr: (ys <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "serverdetails yellow submarine".
02:20 <nniveus> lol
02:20 <luke-jr> .help servers
02:20 <tronner> luke-jr: (servers <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://78.46.226.238:7899/grid/armaservers.php".
02:20 <luke-jr> ]servers
02:20 <ljrbot> luke-jr: Error: "servers" is not a valid command.
02:20 <luke-jr> ]alias add servers "fetch http://78.46.226.238:7899/grid/armaservers.php"
02:20 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
02:20 <luke-jr> ]lock servers
02:20 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
02:21 <luke-jr> ]help serverdetails
02:21 <ljrbot> luke-jr: Error: There is no command "serverdetails".
02:21 <luke-jr> ]help sd
02:21 <ljrbot> luke-jr: (sd <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/serverdetails.php?name=@1+@2+@3+@4+@5+@6+@7+@8+@9".
02:21 <luke-jr> ]alias add serverdetails "fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/serverdetails.php?name=@1+@2+@3+@4+@5+@6+@7+@8+@9"
02:21 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
02:21 <luke-jr> ]alias add sd serverdetails
02:21 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
02:21 <luke-jr> ]lock sd
02:21 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
02:21 <luke-jr> ]lock serverdetails
02:21 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
02:21 <nniveus> noob are you playing in coming ladle?
02:21 <luke-jr> pwnt u tronner
02:22 <noob13> nniveus, call me 13, no need for formalities.. :P
02:22 <noob13> anyway, i'd like to
02:22 <noob13> haven't got a team yet, though
02:23 <nniveus> lol since when is noob formal? but alright if you prefer 13 ._.
02:24 <noob13> its kinda like saying "sir" from where i come from..
02:24 <noob13> nah just kidding, there're so many noob this and that around..
02:25 <noob13> so i get easily confused if people refer to them all as "noob"
02:25 <nniveus> aside from you i can't tell any others apart :x
02:26 <noob13> there's NOOB_saibot and crazy NOOB to mention a few more
02:26 <noob13> then there're the ones with numbers..
02:27 <noob13> they're confusing, i admit
02:27 <noob13> are you playing the ladle nniveus?
02:28 <noob13> maybe i should ask pike if he's getting a second team together again
02:28 <nniveus> lol
02:28 <nniveus> i can't, not till i get my new graphic card
02:28 <nniveus> looking for a nvidia one
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02:29 <noob13> aha, have you already chosen one?
02:29 <noob13> hi Concord
02:29 <Concord> hi
02:29 <nniveus> ladle matches are too large, make my fps drop like nothing else :)
02:29 <noob13> i think i have about the same card as you..
02:29 <nniveus> no, asking a friend to help me out
02:30 <nniveus> really? that intel chipset thing? :/
02:30 <nniveus> hey conc :)
02:30 <noob13> the graphics on it aren't spectacular, but i get ~100 fps even on full servers
02:30 <nniveus> with vista? i don't think so
02:31 <noob13> no, on ubuntu..
02:31 <nniveus> there you go xD
02:31 <noob13> that shouldn't make that much difference
02:32 <noob13> i got an intel x4500 or whatever..
02:32 <noob13> i recall yours was about the same
02:32 <nniveus> hm then i don't know what the problem is. anything more than 10 players in a server makes my fps drop to about 20-30
02:32 <nniveus> and the coming ladle is 6v6 yes?
02:32 <noob13> so they say
02:33 <nniveus> should be interesting, i'll probably be on spec :)
02:33 <luke-jr> nniveus: nVidia sucks
02:34 <nniveus> you're alive :>
02:34 <Concord> nniveus you should probably play ;)
02:34 <luke-jr> Intel FTW
02:34 <nniveus> um no
02:34 <nniveus> intel fml
02:34 <nniveus> concord lol
02:34 <luke-jr> Intel > nVidia
02:35 <noob13> how so, luke-jr?
02:35 <noob13> doesn't it in fact perform way worse?
02:35 <luke-jr> no, way better
02:35 <luke-jr> nVidia is 2D only on Linux
02:35 <noob13> orly?
02:35 <luke-jr> yup
02:35 <nniveus> lol
02:35 <luke-jr> Intel is the best supported chipset on Linux
02:36 <nniveus> i am no on linux
02:36 <nniveus> afaik ._.
02:36 <luke-jr> tho ATi is catching up
02:36 <luke-jr> nniveus: you should be
02:36 <nniveus> not*
02:36 <nniveus> well i am not luke >: ( lol
02:36 <luke-jr> then I guess you don't get the next version of Armagetron
02:36 <luke-jr> we're dropping Windows supprot
02:36 <noob13> seriously?
02:36 <nniveus> lawl
02:37 <noob13> is it too much to maintain?
02:37 <luke-jr> noob13: I'm exaggerating ☺
02:37 <luke-jr> and yes it is
02:37 <nniveus> you can't drop windows support =_=;
02:37 <noob13> that wouldn't be the smartest move in terms of popularity
02:37 <luke-jr> nniveus: can so
02:37 <luke-jr> nniveus: not a single developer uses Windows
02:38 <nniveus> can't say the same about players though :)
02:38 <luke-jr> but players don'
02:38 <luke-jr> but players don't make the calls
02:38 <nniveus> count?
02:38 <nniveus> lol!
02:38 <nniveus> i suppose not
02:39 <nniveus> but i got the impression that most use windows
02:39 <luke-jr> if so, less than 70% I bet
02:39 <nniveus> more than 70% i bet
02:39 <luke-jr> virtually every Linux user knows Armagetron
02:39 <noob13> whats this about CMake epsy posted about? would it partially ease the pain of continuing support for windows?
02:39 <luke-jr> can't say that about Windows
02:39 <luke-jr> noob13: doubt it
02:39 <luke-jr> the problem is Windows
02:39 <luke-jr> in general
02:40 <luke-jr> is difficult
02:40 <luke-jr> Linux is easy to use
02:40 <luke-jr> Windows is far too hard
02:40 <nniveus> ever read the blue nowhere?
02:40 <luke-jr> no
02:40 <noob13> nor have i
02:40 <nniveus> not related to topic at all, just wondering ;)
02:41 <noob13> did you see the finale of battlestar galactica?
02:41 <luke-jr> wtf is that
02:41 <noob13> just wondering ;P
02:41 <noob13> i sense sarcasm, luke-jr..
02:41 <luke-jr> where?
02:41 <noob13> or do u really now know the series? :P
02:42 <nniveus> luke has his pms right now, be gentle ;(
02:42 <noob13> the new one, there was an old one with about the same plot
02:42 <nniveus> no, i don't know the series : P
02:42 <noob13> :O
02:42 <luke-jr> ……..
02:42 <luke-jr> never heard of it?
02:42 <noob13> its only about the best sci-fi series in history :P
02:42 <nniveus> nope nada no nein non
02:42 <luke-jr> no wai
02:43 <nniveus> lol
02:43 <luke-jr> can't be better than Noein!
02:43 <nniveus> the best sci-fi in history huh :o
02:43 <luke-jr> oh
02:43 <luke-jr> and "best sci-fi in history" is already taken
02:43 <nniveus> i read sci-fi, watching sci-fi sucks
02:43 <luke-jr> and awarded etc
02:44 <nniveus> and only michael crichton at that
02:44 <luke-jr> best sci-fi in history is officially
02:44 <luke-jr> the Foundation series
02:44 <noob13> hm, haven't heard of that
02:44 <luke-jr> epic fail!
02:45 <nniveus> lol um who knows that series? : P
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02:45 <luke-jr> any serious sci-fi fan
02:45 <luke-jr> "The series is highly acclaimed, winning the one-time Hugo Award for "Best All-Time Series" in 1966."
02:45 <nniveus> but i never claim to be, so i'm off the hook :)
02:46 <noob13> that was long before my time ;P
02:46 <nniveus> are you 13?
02:46 <luke-jr> "Foundation was originally a series of eight short stories published in Astounding Magazine between May 1942 and January 1950."
02:46 <noob13> :P
02:46 <nniveus> i totallly understand if you don't want to answer ;( lol
02:47 <noob13> heh, how old would you guess i am..
02:47 <noob13> ?
02:47 <luke-jr> 39
02:47 <nniveus> hm
02:47 <noob13> :D
02:47 <nniveus> below 20
02:48 <nniveus> where is conc? just said hi and left?
02:48 <noob13> how much below?
02:48 <noob13> :P
02:48 <noob13> you're both in the wrong, i am 23..
02:49 <nniveus> ah i fail :/
02:49 <luke-jr> I, Robot
02:49 <luke-jr> is cronologically the first book in the Foundation series
02:49 <nniveus> luke stop ranting about foundation! there is such a thing called google
02:49 <nniveus> : P
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02:49 <nniveus> ehh sry noob about my guess
02:49 <nniveus> i suck at guessing anyway so don't feel too bad
02:50 <noob13> heh, your guess was better than luke's ;P
02:50 <luke-jr> The Bicentennial Man is the 5th book in the series
02:50 <nniveus> wow omg
02:50 <nniveus> what was the 6th called called?!?!?!?!?!?!
02:50 <nniveus> book called*
02:50 <luke-jr> The Caves of Steel
02:50 <nniveus> the 7th?!?!?!?!
02:51 <luke-jr> The Naked Sun
02:51 <nniveus> 8th?!?!?!!
02:51 <noob13> O_O
02:51 <luke-jr> The Robots of Dawn
02:51 <nniveus> jesus how many are there >_>
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02:51 <luke-jr> 25
02:51  * BabyBug fondles nniveus 
02:51 <nniveus> .......
02:51 <noob13> heh
02:51 <nniveus> oh hey baby :)
02:51 <BabyBug> ^^ Hey
02:51 <nniveus> good thing i asked before going on
02:51 <luke-jr> spanning about 50,000 years
02:52 <noob13> what happened in those years?
02:53 <nniveus> are you serious noob?
02:53 <nniveus> WHY would you ask that >_>
02:53 <noob13> :D
02:53  * nniveus shakes noob awake
02:53 <nniveus> sry
02:53 <nniveus> 13*
02:53 <luke-jr> I, Robot; The Complete Robot; Robot Dreams; Robot Visions; The Positronic Man; The Caves of Steel; The Naked Sun; The Robots of Dawn; Robots and Empire; The Stars, Like Dust; The Currents of Space; Pebble in the Sky; Prelude to Foundation; Forward the Foundation; Foundation; Foundation and Empire; Second Foundation; Foundation's Edge; Foundation and Earth
02:54 <noob13> and then..?
02:54 <luke-jr> noob13: first, man settled about 10 planets
02:54 <nniveus> luke please don't ;_;
02:54 <noob13> and then..?
02:54 <luke-jr> the men on those planets developed technology to live ~400 years
02:54 <nniveus> fml
02:54 <luke-jr> and grew to despise Earth
02:54 <luke-jr> Earth began settling other planets again
02:55 <luke-jr> the first settlement wanted to stop the "normal" humans, so set Earth's crust to become radioactive
02:55 <noob13> i see, ok.
02:55 <luke-jr> the second group eventually settled the universe, and forgot about Earth
02:55 <noob13> did it have a happy ending?
02:55 <nniveus> lols
02:55 <luke-jr> the universal Empire fell apart and the mathematician Hari Seldon developed the science of psychohistory
02:56 <luke-jr> psychohistory is applying maths to predict the future of mobs
02:56 <nniveus> we need conc and baby here >:( save ussssssssssss
02:56 <luke-jr> he predicted the fall and setup a Foundation at the edge of the universe to maintain science across the dark age that followed
02:56 <noob13> where's the "stop execution" button on luke? anyone?
02:56 <luke-jr> a mutant named the Mule was not accounted for in Hari's predictions, however, and began to screw things up
02:56 <nniveus> you're the one who prompted him to start
02:56 <nniveus> wd 13
02:56 <luke-jr> the Mule could read minds and IIRC manipulate them
02:57  * noob13 slaps self
02:57 <nniveus> now he's gonna go through the 50,000 years of history
02:57 <luke-jr> finally, the unknown Second Foundation stepped in and defeated the Mule
02:57 <nniveus> the ox?
02:57 <luke-jr> the Second Foundation was an organization of people with Mule-like powers (read and manipulate minds) that safeguarded Hari's predictions
02:57 <nniveus> ox-like powers?
02:57 <luke-jr> the First Foundation didn't like being manipulated so they were like WTF OMG
02:58 <nniveus> lol
02:58 <luke-jr> and setup a trap to find the Second Foundation
02:58 <nniveus> i can imagine what luke's bedtime stories to his future children will be like ;)
02:58 <luke-jr> an unknown planet named Gaia hijacked the trap, and put the three powers at an equal battlefield
02:58 <luke-jr> Gaia was a planet where all the beings were linked together
02:58 <noob13> effective, indeed..
02:58 <noob13> ZzzZzz...
02:58 <nniveus> it's like child abuse
02:58 <luke-jr> so the entire planet was effectively one big conciousness
02:59 <luke-jr> I forget how that battle ended.
02:59 <luke-jr> anyhow
02:59 <luke-jr> R. Daneel Olivaw wanted a new brain
02:59 <luke-jr> cuz his old one was getting old
02:59 <luke-jr> but that first human settlement (they lived ~400 years, remember) had almost died off and nobody knew they existed
03:00 <luke-jr> so Daneel hijacked some help to locate Earth and such
03:00 <luke-jr> eventually they found Earth
03:00 <luke-jr> and Daneel got his new brain
03:00 <luke-jr> Daneel is a robot that lives for the whole 50,000 yrs btw
03:00 <luke-jr> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Daneel_Olivaw
03:01 <noob13> oh right!
03:01 <noob13> go Daneel!
03:01 <noob13> but seriously luke-jr, you can stop now..
03:01 <luke-jr> I finished.
03:01 <luke-jr> that was the end
03:01 <luke-jr> Olivaw is a Robot built by Roj Nemennuh Sarton and Han Fastolfe, who are Spacer roboticists from the planet Aurora, in the year 5020 AD
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03:08 <nniveus> there are ppl in cafe 13 :)
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04:13 <noob13> What IS the color of the right cycle on the original sourceforge.net project page?
04:13 <noob13> excuse me, can't find it -.-
04:14 <noob13> its either blue or red
04:14 <noob13> will i guess right?
04:14 <noob13> it could be yellow, too
04:14 <noob13> :|
04:15 <BabyBug> http://armagetron.sourceforge.net/ <-- that old one?
04:16 <noob13> apparently! thanks..
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04:39 <BabyBug> =)
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06:03 <Rajinn> hey guys, i am running a server called -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber< and it says upgrade needed to ppl that use anything other than .2.8.3beta
06:03 <Rajinn> any idea on what the problem is on that?
06:06 <BabyBug> Rajinn, probably because the server is 2.8.3beta. Older clients can't connect to it.
06:07 <luke-jr> BabyBug: bad logic
06:07 <Rajinn> haha
06:07 <luke-jr> Rajinn: check your log
06:07 <Rajinn> ok
06:07 <BabyBug> Why's that bad logic! How can you even talk about logic when you're a guy
06:07 <BabyBug> pssht
06:08 <Rajinn> Setting CYCLE_TURN_SPEED_FACTOR (Group: Bumpy) deviates from its default value; clients older than 0.2.8_beta2 will not be allowed in.
06:08 <Rajinn> is that the problem?
06:08 <luke-jr> Rajinn: probably not that one
06:08 <Rajinn> oh ...
06:08 <luke-jr> look for one mentioning 0.2.8.3
06:08 <Rajinn> ok
06:09 <noob13> .tea
06:09 <tronner> noob13: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
06:09 <noob13> :(
06:09 <Rajinn> thats all i see luke
06:13 <luke-jr> CYCLE_ACCEL_TEAM, CYCLE_ACCEL_ENEMY, CYCLE_ACCEL_TUNNEL
06:13 <luke-jr> any of thsoe set?
06:14 <luke-jr> CYCLE_BOOST_SELF, CYCLE_BOOST_TEAM, CYCLE_BOOST_ENEMY, CYCLE_BOOST_RIM
06:14 <luke-jr> etc
06:16 <Rajinn> YES!  cycle_boost is set
06:16 <Rajinn> dang nvm, here ill show you the settings
06:17 <Rajinn> http://rafb.net/p/UBP6IQ72.html
06:17 <luke-jr> BabyBug: as if non-guys know what logic is?
06:18 <luke-jr> Rajinn: I'm too lazy
06:18 <luke-jr> Rajinn: ask someoen else later
06:18 <luke-jr> ☺
06:18 <BabyBug> luke-jr, well duh!
06:18 <BabyBug> t
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06:56 <epsy> guru3, you also forgot this: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=19117
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16:21 <nsh22> ohai
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17:31 <epsy> apparently, there _is_ a download feature on youtube videos
17:32 <epsy> http://help.youtube.com/group/youtube-feedback/browse_thread/thread/ebd48776419efa23/d85c4ca86253e321?lnk=gst&q=download
17:38 <Zurd> .tea
17:38 <tronner> Zurd: Fortress Café: Players (13/32): $0$Hupfi, -»|boo, ¦×¦ PlayerNu (PlayerNub@x/member), killerbees19 (killerbees19@forums), MobiusPoint, Monkey.D.Luffy, Penguin, stax, SupAflY, The MentalisT, ~th3r0z3r~, ~|DS|~ Judders, ~|DS|~zion (zion@forums)
17:41 <epsy> is someone around here used to upload videos on youtube?
17:44 <Zurd> i have uploaded once or twice
17:44 <epsy> are settings shown after the video has been uploaded?
17:44 <Zurd> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQ_cdZdcu9U\
17:44 <Zurd> was a year ago
17:45 <epsy> are settings shown after the video has been uploaded?
17:46 <Zurd> not that i recall, then
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18:23 <HyperDrive> greatings programs
18:25 <HyperDrive> lol very quiet in here
18:25 <HyperDrive> too quiet for me
18:25 <HyperDrive> bye
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18:26 <MrBougo> eh
18:28 <epsy> fail then
18:28 <epsy> um
18:31  * joda_bot assigns #armagetron channel ping of 3min :-)
18:32 <epsy> you're the one to be pinging 3 mins late
18:32 <epsy> >:)
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18:37 <joda_bot> epsy: I got Norton, I don't respond on pings :-P
18:37 <epsy> your message is scrambled joda_bot
18:39 <epsy> :D
18:41 <ct|kyle> joda_bot: Pong
18:44 <joda_bot> did anyone say anything ?
18:44 <joda_bot> :-P
18:44 <epsy> :D
18:45 <epsy> bool isThisPacketSpam( void ) { return (bool) rand(); }
18:48 <epsy> Word lacks threading
18:49 <epsy> and I don't mean MS Word
18:54 <epsy> wrtlprnft, hi btw :)
18:57 <epsy> [19:58] * [wrtlprnft] inactif  214:49:33, ouverture de session : Mon Mar  2 23:59:35
18:58 <epsy> inactive 214 hours :S
18:58 <epsy> 215 soon
19:18 <BabyBug> can't somebody go there and stab him or something?
19:19 <BabyBug> just with a pencil
19:19 <BabyBug> wake him up
19:19 <BabyBug> right in the ear!
19:19 <epsy> get a flight ticket then :>
19:20 <BabyBug> got his address? :P
19:20 <epsy> hmm
19:20 <epsy> wrtlprnft, what's your address?
19:21 <epsy> wrtlprnft, it's for BabyBug not for me
19:21 <BabyBug> ...
19:21 <epsy> BabyBug, it *may* work!
19:22 <BabyBug> oh rly? What's your address then?
19:22 <BabyBug> and if he answered your question, it would defeat the point of me wanting the address!
19:22 <epsy> stop logics!
19:22 <epsy> everybody knows women shouldn't ever ever do logics!
19:23 <BabyBug> s/women/men/
19:23 <epsy> :)
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19:52 <nsh22> herro everyone
19:52 <BabyBug> go away
19:53 <nsh22> :(, are your serious?
19:53 <nsh22> you*
19:53 <epsy> Lucifer, I just forced you on my clan
19:53 <ct|kyle> .rape BabyBug
19:53 <tronner> ct|kyle: The operation succeeded.
19:55 <epsy> @success BabyBug
19:55 <teabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.  BabyBug
19:56 <BabyBug> nsh22, yes, fuck off x)
19:56  * nsh22 fucks off
19:56 <nsh22> lol jkjk
19:56 <epsy> lololol
19:56 <ct|kyle> nsh22: BabyBug is just upset that armabot is not here
19:57 <nsh22> yeah, so she can kick me :P
19:57 <nsh22> or ivanoob
19:57 <ct|kyle> exatly
19:57 <ct|kyle> exactly*
19:57 <ct|kyle> .kick BabyBug
19:58 <epsy> Word gave up replying hehe
19:59 <epsy> or not
20:11 <nsh22> luke-jr: what filetype is SvcConfig?
20:12 <nsh22> i.e. the extension
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20:25 <Lucifer>  /nick epsy|Lucifer
20:25 -!- Lucifer is now known as epsy|Lucifer
20:26  * BabyBug kicks epsy|Lucifer 
20:26  * epsy|Lucifer kicks epsy|BabyBug
20:27 <epsy|Lucifer> wrtlprnft: what happened to armabot?
20:27 <BabyBug> He hasn't spoke in agessss!
20:27 <BabyBug> What makes you think he will now?
20:27 <epsy|Lucifer> he's posted on the forums in the last 24 hours
20:27 <BabyBug> oh
20:27 <BabyBug> well he's not dead then :)
20:28 <epsy|Lucifer> no, he's not :)
20:28 <epsy|Lucifer> although he might get knocked down by an angry clanner that wants to rename people who misuse clan tags
20:28 <BabyBug> eh?
20:28 <epsy|Lucifer> you don't read the forums, do you?
20:28 <BabyBug> No
20:28 <BabyBug> lol
20:29 <epsy|Lucifer> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=19163&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
20:29 <BabyBug> The forum categorys need re-doing!
20:29 <epsy|Lucifer> nobody pays attention to them anyway
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20:30 <epsy|Lucifer>  /nick epsy epsy|epsy
20:30 <epsy|epsy> haha
20:30 <cpayan> ...
20:30 <epsy|Lucifer> heh, thought you went to bed or something
20:31 <epsy|Lucifer> cpayan: come on, join the epsy clan!
20:31  * cpayan is too confused about this. going to another screen
20:31 <epsy|epsy> we will force you anyway
20:31 <cpayan> oh, the clantag thing
20:31 <epsy|Lucifer> yeah, we hacked freenode to let us change any user's name
20:31 <BabyBug> epsy|Lucifer, I try to pay attention to them! I mean i load the forums, and i've no idea where to look to find things!
20:32 -!- cpayan is now known as {[
20:32 <{[> haha
20:32 <{[> it got mad at me about my crazy clantag
20:32 <epsy|Lucifer> http://forums.armagetronad.net/search.php?search_id=newposts
20:32 <epsy|Lucifer> BabyBug: you have to be logged in for that to work, though
20:32 -!- {[ is now known as {[KamP]}cpayan
20:32 <{[KamP]}cpayan> there
20:32 <epsy|Lucifer> nonono, you're supposed to join the epsy clan
20:32 <{[KamP]}cpayan> not as many tildes as I wanted
20:32 <BabyBug> I don't want to view all new posts. I want to be able to find a thread i'm looking for if i'm ever looking for one
20:33 -!- {[KamP]}cpayan is now known as cpayan
20:33 <epsy|Lucifer> BabyBug: most threads aren't worth finding
20:33 <BabyBug> ...
20:33 <dlh> Join the empty-string clan. I'm sporting the clan-tag already.
20:33 <cpayan> BabyBug, I can never remember where the threads I'm following are
20:34 <cpayan> dlh, ever watch Afro Samurai? There was a group called the "Empty Seven" clan. neat show.
20:34 <epsy|Lucifer> I think DWH needs to make an appearance
20:34 <dlh> no, I've never watched it
20:34 <BabyBug> DWH?
20:34 <epsy|Lucifer> Dinosaurs with Hats
20:35 <BabyBug> ...
20:35 <cpayan> What's confusing me is this: why would someone think that some feature tailored entirely to clans and clan members would need to be in the arma core
20:35 <epsy|Lucifer> cpayan: because there's no other place to put it
20:35 <cpayan> sounds like a personal problem
20:35 <BabyBug> And they're probably unaware that the devs hate clans
20:36 <cpayan> They can't tailor their own copy of the server code?
20:36 <epsy|epsy> it's not like I'm not in ¦×¦
20:36 <epsy|Lucifer> you know, we'd probably code stuff for clans, it's not our prejudice against clans that prevents that
20:36 <cpayan> clan fork
20:36 <epsy|epsy> well, part of ¦×¦, so to speak
20:36 <epsy|Lucifer> it's more like we don't see a use for any clan-specific features that have been suggested
20:36 <epsy|epsy> to me it's just that it can already be done
20:36 -!- BabyBug is now known as epsy
20:36 <epsy> yippy!
20:36 <cpayan> haha
20:36 <epsy|epsy> if they are too lazy to do it this way, it's their problem
20:37 <epsy|Lucifer> like this new one, force-renaming of players that are spoofing as a clan member
20:37 <epsy|epsy> epsy, that nick is protected
20:37 <epsy> protected?
20:37 <epsy|epsy> nvm :)
20:37 -!- epsy is now known as Guest99097
20:37 <epsy|epsy> :D
20:37 <Guest99097> :|
20:37 <cpayan> haha
20:37 <Guest99097> :@
20:37 -!- Guest99097 is now known as Lucifer
20:37 <Lucifer> yippy!
20:37 -!- Lucifer is now known as BabyBug
20:37 <BabyBug> I don't trust him not to kick me off :(
20:37 <cpayan> I'm in a library, people, stop this
20:38 <epsy|epsy> what? YOU HAVE TURNED VOICE SYNTH ON?
20:38 <epsy|Lucifer> damn, what's the command to hurt someone who uses my name?
20:38 <cpayan> no, but i'm trying hard not to burst out laughing.
20:38 <BabyBug> /nickserv ghost name password
20:38 <BabyBug> that one?
20:38 <epsy|epsy> oh, and also, Word suggests using a centralized DB, which is just not fine by me
20:38 <epsy|Lucifer> oh right
20:39 <epsy|Lucifer> hey, you changed your name back before I could do it :)
20:39 -!- epsy|Lucifer is now known as Lucifer
20:39 <BabyBug> :)
20:39 <epsy|epsy> but well, I /part'd that thread
20:39 <epsy|epsy>  /whois epsy
20:39 <BabyBug> Just two '/' instead of putting a space before it!
20:39 <Lucifer> that thread has reached the point where the guy doesn't want to back down after we've all shown thoroughly how useless his feature is
20:39 <BabyBug> putting a space before it is wrong!
20:40 <Lucifer>  /kick BabyBug no it isn't!
20:40 <epsy|epsy> :d
20:40 <BabyBug> /kick Lucifer yes it is!
20:40  * Lucifer kicks BabyBug (Is not!)
20:40  * BabyBug kicks Lucifer (Is too!)
20:41  * Lucifer kicks cpayan (for being in a library!)
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20:41 <Lucifer> hah, BabyBug, you didn't see *that* coming!
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20:41 <cpayan> what was that about?
20:42 <BabyBug> Lucifer...
20:42 <epsy|epsy> /kick ftl
20:42 <epsy|epsy> /remove :D
20:42 <cpayan> hehe
20:42 <epsy|epsy> it's awesome, it makes you /part
20:42 <BabyBug> * #armagetron :You need to be a channel operator to do that =(
20:42 <Lucifer> you know, I don't think I could change my name to something that looks like my real name
20:42 <epsy|epsy> and currently no client autorejoins on part
20:42 <epsy|epsy> :d
20:43 <epsy|epsy> daFan!
20:43  * epsy|epsy runs
20:43 <Lucifer> heh
20:43 <Lucifer> I was thinking if I did what nemo did, I'd be dlf, and nobody could tell us apart
20:43 <BabyBug> Dafydd!
20:45  * Lucifer plays arma as "dave" whenever he compiles a fresh client
20:45  * epsy|epsy does as "epsy"
20:45 <epsy|epsy> and people always bother me with stupid questions then
20:45 <cpayan> I'm sorry, I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave
20:45 <epsy|epsy> "omg omg have you left ¦×¦ ?"
20:46  * cpayan watched 2001: A Space Odyssey for the first time yesterday
20:46 <Lucifer> "Yes, YES!  I Have Left |x|!  Now I'm part of [epsy]!"
20:46  * Lucifer hasn't seen that movie
20:46 <epsy|epsy> it's not like whatever I append to my name makes anything out of me
20:46 -!- Lucifer is now known as dave|Lucifer
20:47 <BabyBug> Dafydd! not dave! :@
20:47 <dave|Lucifer> there, I'm dave OR Lucifer
20:47 <dave|Lucifer> why Dafydd?  What crazy kind of way to spell it is that?
20:47 <epsy|epsy> you forgot parenthesis
20:47 <dave|Lucifer> oh shit, my wheel's here
20:47 <BabyBug> It's Welsh
20:48 <dave|Lucifer> my wheel isn't here
20:48 <BabyBug> ...
20:48 <epsy|epsy> BabyBug doesn't like.
20:49 <dave|Lucifer> does anybody even speak Welsh anymore?  Isn't that a dead language?
20:49 <dave|Lucifer> kinda like Latin....
20:49 <BabyBug> No it freaking isn't
20:49 <epsy|epsy> BabyBug still speaks Welsh
20:50 <epsy|epsy> aaaaaaaand that's it
20:50 <BabyBug> ...
20:50 <epsy|epsy> :)
20:50 <dave|Lucifer> that wouldn't surprise me
20:50 <dave|Lucifer> it's also her first language
20:50 <dave|Lucifer> so she probably just made up some language and calls it Welsh
20:50 <BabyBug> Welsh sounds pretty!
20:51 <dave|Lucifer> I've never heard Welsh spoken
20:51 <dave|Lucifer> most likely because nobody actually speaks it
20:51 <epsy|epsy> just as BabyBug does :D
20:51 <dave|Lucifer> more seriously, I've never heard it spoken :)
20:51 <BabyBug> It looks ugly written. But it sounds pretty
20:51 <BabyBug> As long as the person has a pretty voice
20:51 -!- dave|Lucifer is now known as dave||Lucifer
20:52 <epsy|epsy> nothing matches dave||Lucifer
20:52 <dave||Lucifer> how about if Nena spoke Welsh?
20:52 <BabyBug> uhh
20:52 <BabyBug> who's Nena?
20:52 <epsy|epsy> oo you're red now
20:52 <Vanhayes> welsh accent sounds like british accent right?
20:52 <dave||Lucifer> Nena is the only person who's ever made German sound pretty
20:52 <BabyBug> NO IT FUCKING DOESN'T!
20:52 <Vanhayes> you sure?
20:52 <cpayan> hm
20:52 <dave||Lucifer> heh
20:52 <dave||Lucifer> doesn't welsh sound just like british?
20:52 <BabyBug> no!!!
20:53 <Vanhayes> ya i heard that too
20:53 <cpayan> All those islanders sound the same.
20:53 <epsy|epsy> guess so
20:53 <BabyBug> ...
20:53 <dave||Lucifer> didn't welsh develop in the east end of london?
20:53 <cpayan> :)
20:53 <BabyBug> whores, cunts, fagends
20:53 <Vanhayes> got kicked out for being too bitish i think
20:53  * cpayan never heard of that last one
20:53 <Vanhayes> british*
20:53 <epsy|epsy> /part #armagetron Ragequit.
20:53 <dave||Lucifer> kept putting on the damn red shirts and parading around
20:54 <dave||Lucifer> hey, isn't there some guy who's got a hypothesis that King Arthur was a welsh king?
20:54 <epsy|epsy> having that as default part/quit message really forces you to never ragequit
20:55 <cpayan> listening to some guy speaking welsh
20:55 <cpayan> not that nice sounding at all, really
20:55 <Vanhayes> does it sound british?
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20:56 <BabyBug> cpayan, well duh, it's a guy
20:56 <cpayan> sounds like a german hippy
20:56 <Vanhayes> ha
20:56 <epsy|epsy> if you ask BabyBug to record her voice, she will tell you it's mature content
20:56 <BabyBug> I don't have a mic
20:56 <Vanhayes> depends on wehat she says
20:56 <cpayan> there are no videos of women speaking welsh
20:57 <epsy|epsy> she will
20:57 <cpayan> ergo, there are no women in Wales
20:57 <Vanhayes> good logic
20:57 <cpayan> that's how it works, right?
20:57 <BabyBug> cpayan, so we're all hermaphrodites?
20:57 <epsy|epsy> Hell Yeah!
20:57 <Vanhayes> better logic
20:57 <cpayan> you're right, there can't be a whole civilization with only one gender.
20:57 <cpayan> Wales doesn't exist
20:57 <dave||Lucifer> maybe the welsh have to import british women
20:58 <dave||Lucifer> they get them as babies and raise them to believe in welsh independence
20:58 <cpayan> haha
20:58 <BabyBug> ...
20:58 <cpayan> teach them some made-up language
20:58 <BabyBug> cpayan, Every language is made up you tard
20:58 <cpayan> fair!
20:58 <dave||Lucifer> welsh men are really just french mimes that got kicked out of France
20:58 <cpayan> but languages of nonexistent places are more imaginary than others.
20:59 <dave||Lucifer> it's really just Klingon spelled with a latin alphabet
20:59 <dave||Lucifer> holy crap, they used to speak welsh in scotland?
20:59 <cpayan> you know, it does kind of sound like that
21:00 <Vanhayes> most of those people are decendants of the celts arent they?
21:00 <dave||Lucifer> er, no, I don't think so
21:00 <dave||Lucifer> iirc, the celts mysteriously died out and were replaced by immigrants
21:02 <cpayan> found a welsh woman: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYT87gDUs3A does not sound very nice
21:02 <Vanhayes> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_language
21:03 <dave||Lucifer> But, in his 2006 book The Origins of the British, revised in 2007, he argued that neither Anglo-Saxons nor Celts had much impact on the genetics of the inhabitants of the British Isles, and that British ancestry mainly traces back to the Palaeolithic Iberian people, now represented by Basques, instead.
21:03 <BabyBug> cpayan, She's not speaking welsh....
21:03 <cpayan> sigh
21:03 <epsy|epsy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKaoAfJWF0Y&feature=related
21:04 <Vanhayes> well if that wikipedia entry is to be believed only 20%  of you can understand welsh
21:05 <cpayan> epsy|epsy, "passing a robbery scene of a crime" o.O
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21:05 <BabyBug> Vanhayes, it depends where you live in Wales
21:05 <cpayan> anyway, i've done enough kicking around Wales for today. :) BabyBug find some way to make welsh sound nice.
21:05 <Vanhayes> cpayan, i think that was just a welsh woman speaking english
21:06 <BabyBug> cpayan, It already does sound nice
21:06 <BabyBug> Vanhayes, you'd be correct :P
21:06 <cpayan> Vanhayes, it was
21:06 <luke-jr> ]later tell nsh22 SvcConfig's MIME type is probably either text/plain or application/x-sh-script
21:06 <cpayan> BabyBug, [citation needed]
21:06 <cpayan> :)
21:06 <epsy|epsy> haha
21:06 <BabyBug> cpayan, I'm a woman. You're a bloke. So i'm right, you're wrong.
21:06 <BabyBug> Citation provided
21:06 <epsy|epsy> This article looks like an advertisement.
21:07 <dave||Lucifer> well, time for me to go to work, cya
21:07 -!- dave||Lucifer is now known as Lucifer
21:07 <cpayan> BabyBug, [citation needed] again. You would never pass muster on the Mustard article of Wikipedia
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21:14 <luke-jr> O.o
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21:18 <PinkTomato> Well it could be Esperanto
21:18 <PinkTomato> that actually is made up
21:19 <epsy|epsy> of frangloman
21:19 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: so is Korean
21:19 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: ?
21:19 <luke-jr> Korean is made up
21:19 <PinkTomato> since when?
21:19 <luke-jr> since it was made up..
21:20 <Vanhayes> well then so is every other language
21:20 <luke-jr> no
21:20 <cpayan> Since whenever it was made up. At some point every language was made up
21:20 <luke-jr> other languages generally develop over time
21:20 <luke-jr> for Korean, a bunch of Korean (Japanese) guys sat down and designed it
21:20 <cpayan> So they were made by larger groups. Still made up.
21:21 <Vanhayes> that doesnt sound true
21:21 <Vanhayes> that sounds like a crazy luke-jr theory
21:21 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: f u retard
21:21 <luke-jr> Korean didn't exist 100 years ago
21:21  * BabyBug agrees with Vanhayes 
21:22 <cpayan> Then of course, there's dialects. Most languages have tons of dialects that, at some point or another, were stamped on by mass-production of one standard language. Mostly by mass-printing of the Bible.
21:22 <Vanhayes> luke-jr, any proof of your theory?
21:22 <PinkTomato> They spoke Korean during occupation...
21:22 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: if I cared to get some
21:22 <PinkTomato> and before that
21:22 <cpayan> Then again, I'm extrapolating from a few facts that float around in my head, so I could be completely off-base
21:23 <Vanhayes> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Korean_language
21:24 <cpayan> :)
21:24 <Vanhayes> it doesnt say it was made up 100 years ago by the japenese btw
21:24 <cpayan> point Vanhayes
21:25 <cpayan> of course, that could have been written by revisionist Korean nationalist groups, trying to deny the Japanese roots of their language.
21:28 <PinkTomato> Korean is too different from Japanese :)
21:29 <luke-jr> ah
21:30 <luke-jr> I guess what I meant was that Hangul was created, and not so recently
21:30 <PinkTomato> Oh the characters were created :)
21:30 <PinkTomato> by "the King"
21:30 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: civ?
21:31 <Vanhayes> nah, gonna make something to eat in a bit
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21:48 <G5> I'm still looking for a ladle team ... if you have any open position (and want me to fill it), send me a private message. (As you may know, DS will not participate.)
21:49 <BabyBug> why wont ds participate?
21:50 <epsy|epsy> heh
21:51 <epsy|epsy> makes me think of the numerous "1v1 dm6 pm" messages you see on quakenet
21:51 <G5> BabyBug: cause DS sucks as a Arma team?
21:52 <BabyBug> Then why are you in the clan? lol
21:52 <epsy|epsy> doodledoo
21:52 <G5> BabyBug: Nice people there. Mostly Arma noobs but nice and friendly
21:52 <epsy|epsy> http://teameventhorizon.com/2008/01/31/event-horizon-3-released
21:53 <epsy|epsy> awesome but looong
21:53 <epsy|epsy> http://www.own3d.tv/watch/1567
21:53 <epsy|epsy> apparently there are additional soundtracks as well
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22:19 <nsh22> hai
22:20 <BabyBug> go away
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22:21 <nsh22> :P
22:22 <cpayan> nsh22, haha
22:23 <nsh22> she told me to go away and i did, but she never said for how long :P
22:23 <Vanhayes> .weather e5n 5c5
22:23 <tronner> Vanhayes: The current temperature in Hampton High School, Hampton, New Brunswick is 0.4°C (6:23 PM ADT on March 23, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 255%. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 30.28 in 1025.3 hPa (Steady).
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22:35 <Durka> #hello
22:35 <Durka> anyone home?
22:36 <Vanhayes> #hello
22:36 <Vanhayes> armabot is on vacation
22:36 <Durka> armabot no está aqui
22:36 <Vanhayes> .hello
22:36 <tronner> Hello :) [q]
22:36 <Vanhayes> ]hello
22:36 <Vanhayes> @hello
22:37 <ct|kyle> oi Durka
22:38 <Durka> oi kyle
22:38 <Durka> question
22:38 <Durka> $passwords= array (
22:38 <Durka>         'test' => 'password', // clever choice there, test
22:38 <Durka>         'z-män' => 'passwörd' // test for utf8 usernames and passwords
22:38 <Durka>         );
22:38 <luke-jr> hi Durka
22:38 <Durka> how can i insert things into that array
22:38 <Durka> like from another file, via a script or something
22:38 <luke-jr> Durka: $passwords['key'] = 'value';
22:39 <Durka> whats that
22:41 <luke-jr> the answer to your effing quesiton
22:42 <Vanhayes> .tea
22:42 <tronner> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (14/32): /dev/null/swiss, AbsYntH|NH|, ¦×¦ Hoax, CT_emmy, free kill (dlh@generalconsumption.org), Goodygumdrops, juice keeper, noob13 (noob13@forums), orly?, sine.wav, stax, szopin, X30N, ~|DS|~G5 (G5@forums)
22:42 <Durka> huh?????
22:42 <Durka> so
22:43 <Durka> $passwords['test'] = "
22:43 <Durka> 'password';
22:43 <Durka> is the same as whats in the array?
22:43 <luke-jr> yes
22:43 <Durka> k
22:43 <Durka> and i can just keep doing it
22:43 <dlh> in the scope of that function it is
22:43 <Durka> like
22:43 <Durka> $passwords['anotheruser'] ="pw";
22:45 <guru3> i have to say this clantag thing
22:45 <guru3> is going in circles
22:45 <dlh> Durka: are you trying to setup a registration system?
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22:46 <cpayan> does anyone know what's up with Swampland Mud Puddle?
22:47 <Durka> dlh: yea i guess
22:47 <Durka> wait no thats stupid
22:48 <Durka> cuz it woudnt be encrypted anyways
22:48 <Durka> nvr mind guys
22:49 <luke-jr> …
22:49 <Durka> lol!
22:50 <luke-jr> Durka: stop dissing
22:50 <Vanhayes> .dict wrong
22:50 <Durka> oO
22:50 <tronner> Vanhayes: wn, bouvier, gcide, and moby-thes responded: gcide: Wrong \Wrong\, obs. imp. of {Wring}. Wrung. --Chaucer. [1913 Webster]; gcide: Wrong \Wrong\, adv. In a wrong manner; not rightly; amiss; morally ill; erroneously; wrongly. [1913 Webster] Ten censure wrong for one that writes amiss. --Pope. [1913 Webster]; gcide: Wrong \Wrong\ (?; 115), v. t. [imp. & p. p. {Wronged}; p. pr. & vb. n. (31 more messages)
22:51 <Vanhayes> wrong doesnt look right
22:51 <luke-jr> does it look left?
22:51 <Vanhayes> pun intended
22:51 <luke-jr> ditto
22:51 <Vanhayes> it looks like it is misspelled
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23:01 <cpayan> is there a thesaurus?
23:01 <cpayan> .thes
23:01 <cpayan> :(
23:02 <cpayan> be cool to have a thesaurus and a rhyming dictionary here. Would never contribute to spam.
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00:52 <Vanhayes> .tea
00:52 <tronner> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (3/32): fingerbib, Penguin, stax
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04:38 <nsh22> hello
04:38 <nsh22> BabyBug: am i allowed in?
04:38 <BabyBug> no
04:39 <nsh22> :"(
04:39 <nsh22> ]hug BabyBug
04:39 <nsh22> ...
04:40  * nsh22 is very tired
04:40 <nsh22> fucking cakes...
04:42 <nsh22> did any1 find out what happened to armabot?
04:52 <ct|kyle> nsh22: armabot was under attack and had to evacuate
04:52 <nsh22> ...
04:52 <nsh22> now a real answer plz?
04:52 <ct|kyle> in doing so she got lost and has yet to find her way back
04:53 <ct|kyle> .last --from wrtlprnft
04:54 <ct|kyle> nsh22: I'm guessing wrtl got busy and has not been able to make it back to bring her back
04:54 <nsh22> ah
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10:29 <nsh22> anybody still up?
10:31 <joda_bot> nsh22: again
10:31 <nsh22> ?
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11:55 <trondare> hey guys, is there anybody here that knows how to set up my similar similar to the WildCat server?
11:56 <trondare> as far as i understand it, they have some rubber, and the trail is also disappearing after a while
11:57 <noob13> cycle_rubber 20, walls_length 200
11:57 <noob13> err
11:58 <noob13> don't know the exact values, but can check if u'd like
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11:58 <noob13> u might also want cycle_delay 0.0001 :P
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12:07 <trondare> noob13: thanks, will give that a try :)
12:07 <trondare> anything else you could find out are greatly appreciated
12:07 <trondare> the settings on there is great fun to play with
12:08 <noob13> heh, i disagree, but sure :P
12:08 <noob13> size_factor should be about -3
12:09 <noob13> and sp_size_factor also
12:09 <trondare> same value?
12:10 <trondare> maybe i'll have a different opinion once i learn the game better also we'll see :)
12:12 <noob13> yea, the size_factor determines the size of the grid, and sp simply stands for single player..
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12:15 <noob13> trondare: http://mastercontrolprogram.de/13/wc.cfg
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12:16 <trondare> ah, nice!
12:16 <trondare> thanks :)
12:18 <noob13> you're welcome
12:19 <trondare> works like a charm
12:20 <trondare> so, which settings do u like playing with? any recommended servers?
12:23 <noob13> i usually play on fortress servers :) but there are some great last man standing servers out there too, try swampland mud puddle, guru3's server and nixda.net - classic
12:24 <trondare> thanks for the tip, gonna try dump some core on those servers :)
12:24 <noob13> anything with more than 6 rubber destroys the game :P
12:25 <noob13> good luck!
12:29 <trondare> getting owned by the bots lol
12:30 <trondare> what about camera settings, are there any tricks to that?
12:30 <trondare> are the defaults good?
12:31 <noob13> are you using the 0.2.8 branch?
12:31 <trondare> yeah the latest beta
12:31 <noob13> i've always played with the 'custom' camera and can't imagine ever using anything else
12:32 <noob13> its in the in-game camera settings menu
12:32 <trondare> the smart camera does seem messy
12:32 <trondare> trying now
12:32 <trondare> what about fov?
12:32 <noob13> with an FOV of about 80-100
12:32 <noob13> depends how u like it..
12:33 <trondare> ah custom camera makes a world of difference
12:33 <noob13> indeed ;)
12:34 <trondare> maybe now i can get some cores too lol
12:34 <trondare> im giving the bots a hard time now at least :D
12:35 <trondare> they seem to be better at the guru server
12:36 <noob13> you can change their skillset a bit by editing aiplayers.cfg
12:36 <trondare> aha
12:36 <trondare> the custom camera is a must! omg
12:36 <trondare> how come that aint default
12:37 <trondare> doesnt look as nice maybe
12:37 <noob13> yea, i think that must be it..
12:38 <noob13> although apparently some people like the default cam
12:38 <trondare> no way
12:38 <noob13> not sure what its like in 0.3
12:38 <trondare> couple of quick turns and i dont know where the hell i am or my enemy
12:39 <noob13> but its a rather enjoyable cinematic experience, isn't it ;P
12:39 <trondare> ahaha
12:39 <trondare> yeah i get a nice view of my ass getting coredumped
12:40 <trondare> ok seems like my boss wants me to do that work thing
12:40 <noob13> heh
12:40 <trondare> anyways, thanks for the tips, greatly changed my gaming experience!
12:40 <trondare> later ;)
12:40 <noob13> bye, np
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15:25 <Vanhayes> .weather e5n 5c5
15:25 <tronner> Vanhayes: The current temperature in Hampton High School, Hampton, New Brunswick is -0.9°C (11:25 AM ADT on March 24, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 255%. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.44 in 1030.7 hPa (Rising).
15:28 <noob13> .weather kingston, jamaica
15:28 <tronner> noob13: The current temperature in Kingston, Jamaica is 25.0°C (9:00 AM EST on March 24, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
15:29 <noob13> .weather helsinki, finland
15:29 <tronner> noob13: The current temperature in Helsinki, Finland is -2.0°C (4:20 PM EET on March 24, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -8.0°C. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa (Steady).
15:37 <cpayan> .weather 33146
15:37 <tronner> cpayan: The current temperature in Gables Estates, Coral Gables, Florida is 22.0°C (10:37 AM EDT on March 24, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020.5 hPa (Rising).
15:39 <noob13> a bit of spam on the forums again? :&
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15:56 <ct|kyle> .weather 46814
15:56 <tronner> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Tanbark, Fort Wayne, Indiana is 7.2°C (10:55 AM EDT on March 24, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1021.9 hPa (Falling).
15:56 <BabyBug> nniveus <33333333333
15:57 <nniveus> baby :)
15:57 <nniveus> shh you might get in trouble for talking like that hmph ;(
15:58 <BabyBug> she's not in here...it's fine!! :P
15:58 <nniveus> haha
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16:17 <ct|kyle> anyone want a iPhone :P
16:20 <cpayan> free?
16:20 <cpayan> :)
16:20 <ct|kyle> no
16:21 <ct|kyle> the one spammed all over the forums
16:21 <cpayan> then no
16:21 <cpayan> oh, didn't check the forums
16:21 <cpayan> seems like there should be an anti-spam plugin for phpbb, no? Like Akismet for Wordpress.
16:22 <noob13> BUY 3 GET 1 FREE
16:22 <noob13> it rhymes
16:22 <ct|kyle> it always gets broken with phpbb2
16:22 <cpayan> sucks
16:23 <ct|kyle> unless you add some new capcha into the sign up
16:24 <noob13> we should do that.. seems like spam is becoming more frequent
16:24 <ct|kyle> they are working on phpbb3
16:24 <ct|kyle> spam has actually been lass than it was a while ago
16:25 <noob13> ah ok, maybe im just checking the forums more often these days :P
16:25 <noob13> you think phpbb3 will help?
16:25 <ct|kyle> I don't know
16:26 <ct|kyle> we'll see, it sounds like CT is going to mybb and that will probably happen around the same time they goto phpbb3
16:27 <noob13> what version is the ct forum?
16:28 <noob13> 2?
16:28 <ct|kyle> right now phpbb2
16:28 <noob13> you have that additional captcha with the copy&paste..
16:28 <noob13> has it been broken?
16:28 <ct|kyle> not anymore
16:28 <noob13> oh..
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16:29 <ct|kyle> we have a new one that you solve a simple addition or subtraction problem
16:29 <ct|kyle> noob13: http://crazy-tronners.com/numgentest3.php
16:30 <joda_bot> ct|kyle: I guess even customizing questions might not protect a site if the ratio of time to hack and return pays off (if the site is well indexed and popular)
16:31 <ct|kyle> joda_bot: ya I know
16:35 <epsy> cpayan, there's askimet for bbpress hehe
16:37 <dlh> Hmm… parsing this file with 2,158,589 lines is taking a long time. I hope this doesn't run all day.
16:37 <dlh> At least the memory usage is staying low.
16:37 <epsy> what are you parsing? :)
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16:38 <dlh> Log file from Fortress Café
16:38 <epsy> what kind of stuff are you building?
16:38 <epsy> from it
16:39 <dlh> Just taking the chat and outputting an xml format
16:39 <epsy> what for?!
16:39 <dlh> The log is about 105 MB. Currently the chat xml file is 16.1MB. I have no idea how far along it is
16:39 <dlh> Testing for newspam branch
16:39 <joda_bot> epsy: I guess dlh is building an XML message file to test spam assessment
16:40 <epsy> ah ok
16:40 <joda_bot> as a unit test ?
16:40 <dlh> Yes
16:40 <joda_bot> cool, will we get chat captchas :D
16:40 <joda_bot> ?
16:40 <dlh> heh
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17:46 <epsy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAfQwDizpRo
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18:29 <cpayan> Can we just keep XDude from ever downloading armagetron again?
18:38 <luke-jr> cpayan: how about we keep you from getting to the master servers?
18:38 <cpayan> probably a good idea
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18:52 <BabyBug> BooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOoooooooOOOOOOOOOOooooooOOOOOOOOOoooooOOOOOOOOOooooooOOOOOOOOoooo
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21:59 <AI_team> hi
21:59 <noob13> hi!
21:59 <AI_team> more liem half of ppl are afk xD
22:00 <ivantis> or dont want to talk
22:00 <epsy> hi
22:01 <P4> or just idling…
22:04 <ivantis> why would you idle when you were ak?
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22:07 <epsy> http://epsy.teamkilled.net:8080/~epsy/screenshots/img1.png http://epsy.teamkilled.net:8080/~epsy/screenshots/img2.png http://epsy.teamkilled.net:8080/~epsy/screenshots/img3.png
22:07 <epsy> any idea how would one achieve this sort of effect? hehe
22:08  * epsy is a noob at image editing
22:09 <epsy> ok I see :P
22:09 <epsy> how would you name it at least?
22:31 <epsy> guru3, have you started upgrading stuff?
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22:53 <Lucifer> yay, I passed the test!
22:53 <Lucifer> now I have to fill out a W9, and as soon as they finish processing it, I can start working
22:53 <MrBougo> gratz
22:53 <Lucifer> and then we'll see if there's enough actual work for these people
22:54 <epsy> ah, #gimp helped me :)
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23:01 <guru3> epsy: no, said i'd do i sunday
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23:51 <noob13> .tea
23:51 <tronner> noob13: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
23:52 <noob13> .fortune
23:52 <tronner> noob13: 'It is impossible for an optimist to be pleasantly surprised.\r\n\n[codehappy] http://iheartquotes.com/fortune/show/30585\n'
23:54 <ivantis> .fortune
23:54 <tronner> ivantis: "We don't know one millionth of one percent about anything. Edison\r\n\n[codehappy] http://iheartquotes.com/fortune/show/22480\n"
23:55 <ivantis> .help fortune
23:55 <tronner> ivantis: (fortune <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://www.iheartquotes.com/api/v1/random?max_lines=1".
23:55 <Vanhayes> .fotune
23:55 <Vanhayes> .fortune
23:55 <tronner> Vanhayes: 'Gravity is a myth, the Earth sucks.\n\n[fortune] http://iheartquotes.com/fortune/show/52375\n'

Log from 2009-03-25:
--- Day changed Wed Mar 25 2009
00:08 <ivantis> .alias add fortune fetch http://space-lab.us/stuff/fortune.pl
00:11 <PinkTomato> .fortune
00:11 <tronner> PinkTomato: 'Laugh at your problems; everybody else does.\r\n\n[codehappy] http://iheartquotes.com/fortune/show/16573\n'
00:11 <ivantis> .alias add fortune fetch http://space-lab.us/stuff/fortune.pl
00:11 <PinkTomato> ivantis: what difference does yours do?
00:11 <ivantis> dude
00:11 <ivantis> it removes the \n \r and stuff
00:11 <ivantis> but it wont let me add it
00:11 <ivantis> lame!
00:11 <PinkTomato> .help alias lock
00:11 <tronner> PinkTomato: (alias lock <alias>) -- Locks an alias so that no one else can change it.
00:12 <ivantis> i dont have the alias.add cabability
00:12 <PinkTomato> .whois ivantis
00:12 <tronner> PinkTomato: ivantis (n=ivantis@63-245-159-78.kitusa.com) has been identified on server irc.freenode.net since 11:02 PM, March 24, 2009 (idle for 22 seconds) and is on #armagetron.
00:12 <ivantis> i still dont have it
00:12 <ivantis> .alias add fortune fetch http://space-lab.us/stuff/fortune.pl
00:13 <ivantis> sends me a pm
00:13 <ivantis> Error: You don't have the alias.add capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
00:14 <noob13> .fetch http://space-lab.us/stuff/fortune.pl
00:14 <tronner> noob13: If food be the music of love, eat up, eat up.[codehappy] http://iheartquotes.com/fortune/show/26994
00:14 <noob13> still has that codehappy stuff..
00:14 <ivantis> thats the source
00:14 <ivantis> want that removed too?
00:15 <noob13> i see no need for it.. but dont care
00:15 <noob13> u can also msg P4 about the alias..
00:16 <ivantis> .fetch http://space-lab.us/stuff/fortune.pl
00:16 <tronner> ivantis: Smokers eat more sugar than non-smokers.[codehappy] http://iheartquotes.com/fortune/show/39781
00:16 <ivantis> ??
00:16 <ivantis> .fetch http://space-lab.us/stuff/fortune.pl
00:16 <tronner> ivantis: Most toilets flush in E flat. http://iheartquotes.com/fortune/show/40744
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00:51 <ivantis2> great idea just popped up
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00:53 <noob13> aren't you going to tell us what it is, ivantis2?
00:53 <ivantis2> oh right
00:54 <ivantis2> hiring someone to port AA to Android
00:54 <ivantis2> so i could play on my phone
00:55 <noob13> you would pay for someone to do that?
00:55 <ivantis2> maybe, if it was reasonable price
00:55 <PinkTomato> is it Java?
00:55 <ivantis2> yeah
00:57 <ivantis2> it has openGL and such, so its most likely possible
01:04 <noob13> .eightball will i rock the socks off my maths exam?
01:04 <tronner> noob13: Unlikely.
01:04 <noob13> .eightball will i at least pass it?
01:04 <tronner> noob13: Obviously.
01:04 <noob13> good enough for me.
01:05 <ivantis2> .eightball will i get my math homework done tonight?
01:05 <tronner> ivantis2: The answer is def-- oooh! shiny thing!
01:10 <Vanhayes> .eightball will i win the lottery this week?
01:10 <tronner> Vanhayes: The outlook is good.
01:11 <Vanhayes> nice, better start looking for my private island
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01:36 <Ttech> How do people make custom maps?
01:40 <Ttech> I know the xml but where are docs?
01:46 <Vanhayes> Ttech i think its all on the wiki
02:10 <luke-jr> Ttech: I just read the DTD
02:11 <Ttech> hmm
02:11 <Ttech> Where's an example map?
02:11 <luke-jr> ivantis2: Armagetron isn't Java
02:12 <luke-jr> Ttech: there's about 500 in teh repository..
02:14 <Vanhayes> http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/
02:14 <Ttech> Where's that?
02:14 <Ttech> Ah thanks
02:14 <Ttech> Whoa crazy icons
02:14 <ivantis2> luke-jr, did you read my full statement? port armagetron to android
02:14 <ivantis2> meaning C++ to Java
02:14 <luke-jr> ivantis2: that's called rewrite
02:15 <Ttech> Whoa those folders are ... people here?
02:15 <luke-jr> authors
02:15 <Vanhayes> ttech people who have an acount on the repository
02:15 <Ttech> ah
02:15 <Ttech> Another question
02:15 <ivantis2> Ttech, oh yeah, about The_Master...
02:15 <Ttech> Yea need to go?
02:15 <luke-jr> http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/ender/squeeze/abmap-1.0.4.aamap.xml
02:15 <luke-jr> wtf
02:15 <Ttech> or is gone
02:15 <luke-jr> lol
02:16 <ivantis2> it um..left
02:16 <Ttech> lol
02:16 <Ttech> bot is banned here
02:16 <Ttech> heh
02:16 <ivantis2> it is?
02:16 <Ttech> oh
02:16 <Ttech> no
02:16 <Ttech> oh yea
02:16 <ivantis2> no it got kicked by armabot
02:16 <luke-jr> if not, it shoudl be
02:16 <Ttech> it looks like most bots are .
02:16 <ivantis2> ?
02:16 <ivantis2> .ping
02:16 <tronner> pong
02:16 <Ttech> luke-jr, its not but I'll keep it outta here
02:17  * Ttech sorta went poof for a while.
02:17 <Vanhayes> @ping
02:17 <teabot> pong
02:17 <ivantis2> oh most bots are banned
02:17 <ivantis2> there are 3 to 4 bots here
02:17 <Ttech> and I assume if I bring the_Master here they will banned
02:17 <ivantis2> the only ones banned are mine
02:17 <Ttech> So how do I load custom maps
02:17 <luke-jr> someone needs to update the map preview script
02:17 <Vanhayes> thats almost 20% of the people in here
02:17 <luke-jr> to handle zones v2
02:17 <ivantis2> no, The_Master is well behaved
02:17 <ivantis2> Vanhayes, heh
02:18  * Ttech dares
02:18 <Ttech> !botjoin
02:18 -!- The_Master [n=master@unaffiliated/ttech/bot/themaster] has joined #armagetron
02:18 <luke-jr> Ttech: see "To use:"
02:18 <Vanhayes> !ping
02:18 <ivantis2> i kicked it
02:18 <ivantis2> its ~
02:18 <ivantis2> ~ping
02:18 <The_Master> pong
02:18 <luke-jr> MAP_FILE philippeqc/fortress/quadFortress-a.aamap.xml
02:18 <luke-jr> for exampel
02:18 <ivantis2> ~echo #r
02:18 <The_Master> #r
02:18 <Ttech> lol
02:18 <ivantis2> but armabot isnt here
02:19 <ivantis2> (#r is for roulette)
02:19 <luke-jr> ]r
02:19 <ivantis2> .r
02:19 <Vanhayes> your bot isnt here luke-jr
02:19 <tronner> ivantis2: c*c*ikl
02:19 <luke-jr> stupid bot
02:19 <Vanhayes> ?
02:19 <ivantis2> .r
02:19 <tronner> ivantis2: **kclci
02:19 <ivantis2> .r
02:19 <tronner> ivantis2: ckc**li
02:19 <ivantis2> .r
02:19 <Ttech> The_Master, do you fail?
02:19 <tronner> ivantis2: kclc**i
02:19 <The_Master> Ttech: I have never considered it.   I spend all my time online.
02:19 <ivantis2> .r
02:19 -!- ljrbot [n=supybot-@2002:46bb:1a76:0:2b0:d0ff:fe49:6b31] has joined #armagetron
02:19 <Vanhayes> that bot has a speech impediment
02:19 <tronner> ivantis2: cck*l*i
02:19 <luke-jr> ]r
02:19 <ljrbot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
02:19  * ljrbot reloads and spins the chambers.
02:19 <ljrbot> New news from armagetronadbzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1107 If a message is directed towards a player, cut the player na... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1106 Added prefix spam entry || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r903 Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 9152 to 9179:... || [themes] r13 changed link color, changed horizontal menu, more or less fi... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1105 Merging prefix spam branch.... || [0.2.8-armage
02:19 <Ttech> The_Master, who failed?
02:19 <The_Master> Ttech: William Shatner. :-).
02:19 <Ttech> lolwut?
02:20 <ivantis2> luke-jr, make it op
02:20 <Vanhayes> The_Master, who failed?
02:20 <luke-jr> let's play the worm game!
02:20 <The_Master> Vanhayes: William Shatner. :-).
02:20 <luke-jr> ]yandere start theme=twg
02:20 <ljrbot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "]yandere" to join.
02:20 <Vanhayes> always william shatner it seems
02:20 <ivantis2> zomg. no yandere here
02:20 <Vanhayes> ]yandere
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02:20 <ivantis2> ]yandere
02:20 <Vanhayes> what is the worm game again?
02:20 <ivantis2> wth?
02:20 <luke-jr> Ttech join
02:20 <ivantis2> you try and find the virus
02:21 <luke-jr> worm*
02:21 <Ttech> ]yandere join
02:21 <ivantis2> virus
02:21  * Ttech goes to figure out multiple maps
02:21 <luke-jr> btw, major changes in current version
02:21 <luke-jr> :p
02:21 <Ttech> is that how those games like wild fortress do the multiple maps?
02:21 <ljrbot> All the programs go about their business one day and notice that gedit seems to be missing. After executing for a while, they go to his directory to check on him, and find that he is terminated, killed by an error. There's only one explanation: there is a worm among us!
02:21 <ljrbot> This game has 1 worm. It's your job to determine the worms.
02:21 <ljrbot> This game starts at DAY. Discuss.
02:21 <ljrbot> Current players: luke-jr, vanhayes, ivantis2, and ttech.
02:21 <luke-jr> Ttech: you mean rotation?
02:21 <Ttech> sure.
02:21 <luke-jr> ]a
02:21 <ljrbot> luke-jr has voted to abstain. Abstains: 1, Undecided: 3
02:22 <ivantis2> ]vote luke-jr
02:22 <ljrbot> ivantis2 has voted for luke-jr. luke-jr: 1, Abstains: 1, Undecided: 2
02:22 <luke-jr> f u ivantis2
02:22 <Vanhayes> i dont get it what am I supposed to do?
02:22 <ivantis2> you could be worm!
02:22 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: ]y help
02:22 <luke-jr> ivantis2: more likely you
02:22 <Vanhayes> ]y help
02:22 <ivantis2> what happens when i change nicks? does it handle that?
02:22 -!- ivantis2 is now known as ivantis
02:22 <luke-jr> ivantis: no
02:22 <ivantis> ]y
02:23 <ivantis> ]vote luke-jr
02:23 <ljrbot> ivantis: You aren't in this game.
02:23 -!- ivantis is now known as ivantis2
02:23 <ivantis2> nooby bot
02:23 <luke-jr> it's quite intentional
02:23 <Vanhayes> ]a
02:23 <Ttech> I don't see the rotation stuff?.
02:23 <ljrbot> Vanhayes has voted to abstain. luke-jr: 1, Abstains: 2, Undecided: 1
02:23 <luke-jr> Ttech: abstain
02:24 <Ttech> luke-jr, hmm?
02:24 <ivantis2> why intentional? if you changed nicks you could be in the game as 2 people
02:24 <Vanhayes> ivantis2, then you could sway the vote in your direction
02:25 <Ttech> luke-jr, I'll assume I should look for abstain somewhere
02:25 <luke-jr> ivantis2: so it has SOME sanity if someone loses their connection
02:25 <luke-jr> Ttech: ]a
02:25 <Ttech> ]a
02:25 <ljrbot> Ttech has voted to abstain. luke-jr: 1, Abstains: 3, Undecided: 0
02:25 <ljrbot> You abstain from lynching anyone.
02:25 <ljrbot> There is 1 worm still at large.
02:25 <ljrbot> Night time falls. If you have a night role, type "/msg ljrbot yandere <command>" or "/msg ljrbot yandere abstain".
02:25 <ljrbot> Current players: luke-jr, vanhayes, ivantis2, and ttech.
02:25 <Ttech> sorry forgot I was playing
02:25 <luke-jr> ]yh
02:25 <ljrbot> People are getting impatient! The night roles have 1 minute to make their decisions before the night ends.
02:26 <ljrbot> Morning comes with the stench of death.
02:26 <ljrbot> ivantis2, who is not a worm, was knocked off with a resource limit.
02:26 <ljrbot> There is 1 worm still at large.
02:26 <ljrbot> Current players: luke-jr, vanhayes, and ttech.
02:26 <luke-jr> O.o
02:26 <Ttech> pwmed
02:26 <ivantis2> told you
02:26  * luke-jr was actually expecting to die.
02:26 <ivantis2> f00l
02:26 <luke-jr> unfortunately, I know nothing.
02:26 <luke-jr> 50/50 for me
02:26 <Vanhayes> it was luke-jr
02:26 <luke-jr> Ttech, Vanhayes: any info?
02:26 <Ttech> ]a
02:26 <ljrbot> Ttech has voted to abstain. Abstains: 1, Undecided: 2
02:26 <luke-jr> …
02:27 <Vanhayes> dont a
02:27 <Vanhayes> aw
02:27 <Ttech> oops
02:27  * Ttech meant to run a diff command 
02:27 <Vanhayes> how do i vote luke-jr ?
02:27 <Ttech> fu uparrow
02:27 <luke-jr> ]y Vanhayes
02:27 <ljrbot> luke-jr has voted for vanhayes. vanhayes: 1, Abstains: 1, Undecided: 1
02:27 <luke-jr> Ttech: vote Vanhayes
02:27 <luke-jr> Ttech: he's guilty I bet
02:27 <Vanhayes> im a witness
02:27 <Ttech> ]y vanhayes
02:27 <ljrbot> Ttech has switched from abstain to vote for vanhayes. vanhayes: 2, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 1
02:27 <Ttech> ?
02:27 <Vanhayes> no
02:27 <luke-jr> ]unvote
02:27 <ljrbot> luke-jr has switched from vanhayes to undecided. vanhayes: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 2
02:27 <Vanhayes> vote luke-jr
02:27 <luke-jr> ]y help witness
02:27 <luke-jr> plausable
02:27 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: ok, I trust you
02:28 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: I did spy ivantis2 last night
02:28 <luke-jr> so it's Ttech then
02:28 <luke-jr> ]y Ttech
02:28 <ljrbot> luke-jr has voted for ttech. vanhayes: 1, ttech: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 1
02:28 <Vanhayes> ]y luke-jr
02:28 <ljrbot> Vanhayes has voted for luke-jr. vanhayes: 1, ttech: 1, luke-jr: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 0
02:28 <ljrbot> Everyone has voted, but there is a tie. Someone will need to switch their vote, or you can type "]yandere next" and force the group to abstain.
02:28 <Ttech> ]y Ttech
02:28 <ljrbot> You can't vote for yourself.
02:28 <luke-jr> ]yh
02:28 <ljrbot> You fail to make a decision. No one is lynched.
02:28 <ljrbot> There is 1 worm still at large.
02:28 <Ttech> doh!
02:28 <ljrbot> Night time falls. If you have a night role, type "/msg ljrbot yandere <command>" or "/msg ljrbot yandere abstain".
02:28 <ljrbot> Current players: luke-jr, vanhayes, and ttech.
02:28 <Ttech> ]y luke-jr
02:28 <ljrbot> Commands in the channel are ignored during the night. Please PM them to me instead. This message does not imply that ttech has any special ability.
02:28 <Vanhayes> ttechvote luke-jr
02:28 <ljrbot> Morning comes with the stench of death.
02:28 <ljrbot> vanhayes, who is not a worm, has been terminated by a shorted circuit.
02:28 <ljrbot> Game over! The worm wins!
02:28 <ljrbot> Bugs: ttech
02:28 <ljrbot> Evil worms: luke-jr
02:28 <ivantis2> that proves it, luke-jr is a creep. there isnt another way to justify spying on people at night
02:28 <ljrbot> Snoops: ivantis2
02:28 <Vanhayes> bah
02:28 <Ttech> :(
02:28 <ljrbot> Witnesses: vanhayes
02:29 <Ttech> So now
02:29 <Vanhayes> told you
02:29 <Ttech> I failed
02:29 <Ttech> :(
02:29 <Vanhayes> whats a bug?
02:29 <luke-jr> ]y help bug
02:29 <luke-jr> ]y start theme=twg
02:29 <Vanhayes> ]y help bug
02:29 <luke-jr> ]y help bug
02:29 <ljrbot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "]yandere" to join.
02:29 <Ttech> How do I specify multiple maps?
02:29 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: Ttech could have saved the day by killing me that night XD
02:30 <Ttech> I didn't see it was night. :(
02:30 <luke-jr> ]cfg rotat
02:30 <ljrbot> luke-jr: Error: "cfg" is not a valid command.
02:30 <Vanhayes> or voted to kill you
02:30 <luke-jr> .cfg2 rotat
02:30 <tronner> luke-jr: Sorry, no matches :S
02:30 <Vanhayes> ]yandere
02:30 <Ttech> A
02:30 <Ttech> I suck to much
02:30 <luke-jr> .cfg2 map
02:30 <tronner> luke-jr: MAP_FILE: File that contains the map used for playing (Default: Anonymous/polygon/regular/square-1.0.1.aamap.xml ) || MAP_FILE_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when MAP_FILE differs from its default? (Default: 3 ) || MAP_URI: DEPRECIATED - use RESOURCE_REPOSITORY_SERVER and MAP_FILE instead(Default: 0 )
02:30 <luke-jr> .cfg2 rota
02:30 <tronner> luke-jr: Sorry, no matches :S
02:30 <luke-jr> .cfg rota
02:30 <tronner> luke-jr: CONFIG_ROTATION: config_rotation_help (default: ) || MAP_ROTATION: map_rotation_help (default: ) || ROTATION_FILE: rotation_file_help (default: ) || ROTATION_TYPE: rotation_type_help (default: 0)
02:30 <Vanhayes> ivantis2, play again
02:30 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
02:30 <luke-jr> Ttech: read up on MAP_ROTATION ☺
02:30 <ivantis2> i need to do my homework
02:30 <Ttech> humm
02:30 -!- Vanhayes is now known as Vanhayes_
02:30 <Ttech> I would assume there is a wiki?
02:30 <Vanhayes_> ]yandere
02:30 <luke-jr> Vanhayes_: cheater
02:31 -!- Vanhayes_ is now known as Vanhayes
02:31 <luke-jr> Ttech: duh?
02:31 <Ttech> Where?
02:31 <luke-jr> …
02:31 <Vanhayes> did that work?
02:31 <luke-jr> where it's been for the past few years
02:31 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: obviously -.-
02:31 -!- Vanhayes is now known as Vanhayes__
02:31 <Vanhayes__> ]yandere
02:31 <luke-jr> ]y next
02:31 <ljrbot> There aren't enough players to start the Worm Game. Try again later.
02:31 <ljrbot> A yandere game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "]yandere" to join.
02:31 <luke-jr> O.o
02:31 <Vanhayes__> didnt work
02:31 <luke-jr> ]y
02:32 <luke-jr> too slow
02:32 -!- Vanhayes__ is now known as Vanhayes_
02:32 <Vanhayes_> ]yandere
02:32 -!- Vanhayes_ is now known as Vanhayes
02:32 <luke-jr> ]y next
02:32 <ljrbot> There aren't enough players yet.
02:32 <Vanhayes> can it show who is playing?
02:32 <luke-jr> no
02:32 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
02:33 <luke-jr> ]y force Vanhayes
02:33 <luke-jr> ]y next
02:33 <ljrbot> Everybody loves Hanako-chan, except for whoever set her on fire last night. Now Hanako-chan is charcoal. There's only one explanation: there is a yandere among us!
02:33 <ljrbot> This game has 1 yandere. It's your job to determine the yanderes.
02:33 <ljrbot> This game starts at DAY. Discuss.
02:33 <ljrbot> Current players: vanhayes_, vanhayes__, luke-jr, and vanhayes.
02:33 <Vanhayes> hmm wonder who will win
02:33 <luke-jr> oops, we forgot TWG theme
02:33 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: which one of you is guilty?
02:33 -!- Vanhayes is now known as Vanhayes_
02:33 <Vanhayes_> ]y help
02:34 -!- Vanhayes_ is now known as Vanhayes__
02:34 <luke-jr> ]vote Vanhayes__
02:34 <Vanhayes__> ]y help
02:34 <ljrbot> luke-jr has voted for vanhayes__. vanhayes__: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 3
02:34 <luke-jr> psychic freak
02:34 <Vanhayes__> ]vote Vanhayes
02:34 <ljrbot> Vanhayes__ has voted for vanhayes. vanhayes__: 1, vanhayes: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 2
02:34 -!- Vanhayes__ is now known as Vanhayes_
02:34 <Vanhayes_> ]vote Vanhayes
02:34 <ljrbot> Vanhayes_ has voted for vanhayes. vanhayes__: 1, vanhayes: 2, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 1
02:34 <luke-jr> ]y force Vanhayes vote Vanhayes__
02:34 <ljrbot> Vanhayes has voted for vanhayes__. vanhayes__: 2, vanhayes: 2, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 0
02:34 <luke-jr> ]y force Vanhayes_ vote Vanhayes__
02:34 <ljrbot> Everyone has voted, but there is a tie. Someone will need to switch their vote, or you can type "]yandere next" and force the group to abstain.
02:34 <ljrbot> Vanhayes_ has switched from vanhayes to vote for vanhayes__. vanhayes__: 3, vanhayes: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 0
02:34 -!- Vanhayes_ is now known as Vanhayes
02:35 <ljrbot> You lynch vanhayes__, and it turns out vanhayes__ was a yandere!
02:35 <ljrbot> Congratulations! The last yandere has been defeated!
02:35 <Vanhayes> ]vote Vanhayes
02:35 <Vanhayes> boo
02:35 <ljrbot> Civilians: vanhayes
02:35 <ljrbot> Evil psychic yanderes: vanhayes__
02:35 <luke-jr> ☺
02:35 <ljrbot> Inspectors: luke-jr
02:35 <luke-jr> I can cheat too
02:35 <ljrbot> Snoops: vanhayes_
02:35 <ljrbot> Vanhayes: There's no game here.
02:35 <Vanhayes> wait I won, Yay
02:36 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: civ?
02:38 <Vanhayes> nah, its getting late, dont need to get sucked into civ for a few hours
02:38 <luke-jr> -.-
02:42 <ivantis2> wow
02:42 <ivantis2> this is so geeky
02:42 <luke-jr> …
02:42 <ivantis2> but not as bad as WoW or runescape
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04:03 <smoothice> oi ct|kyle
04:03 <smoothice> ct|kyle: back home :D
04:03 <ct|kyle> oi smoothice
04:03 <ct|kyle> not as long getting back :P
04:03 <smoothice> well
04:04 <smoothice> time change causes loss of one hour
04:05 <ct|kyle> use GMT and GMT only and you don't loose them
04:05 <smoothice> ...
04:06 <smoothice> ct|kyle: When everyone around me utilizes the local time zone, it's hard not to follow
04:06 <smoothice> ct|kyle: -.-
04:08 <ct|kyle> I just use both :P
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04:18 <luke-jr> pfft
04:18 <luke-jr> hexadecimal time ftw
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04:42  * BabyBug tickles sinewav 
04:43  * ct|kyle spanks BabyBug
04:44 <BabyBug> im too hot for you to spank ct|kyle
04:45 -!- Pathetique [n=chatzill@adsl-99-173-21-61.dsl.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net] has joined #armagetron
04:46 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: no that was only because I lit my hand on fire before I spanked you
04:46 <BabyBug> wow you really are shit at come backs
04:47 <Pathetique> BabyBug: http://www.funnyexamanswers.com/img/shesawoman.jpg
04:47 <BabyBug> "You're not hot, i just lit my hand on fire" ... with lines like that you must be a virgin
04:49 <smoothice> you guys are weird....
04:49 <ct|kyle> Pathetique: nice :P
04:50 <Pathetique> LOL
04:50 <ct|kyle> isent 18 right though?
04:51 <BabyBug> Yup....defiantly a virgin...
04:51 <Pathetique> ct|kyle: http://www.funnyexamanswers.com/img/whereisthex.jpg
04:51 <smoothice> wtf
04:51 <smoothice> -.-
04:52 <ct|kyle> heh
04:52 <Pathetique> http://funnyexamanswers.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/chemistryexam.jpg
04:52 <Pathetique> last link
04:52 <Pathetique> best one tho
04:54 <ct|kyle> heh
04:54 <ct|kyle> I could see one of my friends doing that
04:54 <smoothice> so folks
04:54 <Pathetique> Which one?
04:54 <smoothice> wassup?
04:54 <luke-jr> smoothice: #anime for yandere!
04:55 <luke-jr> Pathetique: u too
04:55 <Pathetique> nty
04:55 <luke-jr> quick
04:55 <luke-jr> I added 5 new roles and rewrote the role selection
04:55 <Pathetique> nty
04:57  * BabyBug wuddles Pathetique 
04:57 <Pathetique> wut?
04:57 <BabyBug> wuddles!
04:57 <ct|kyle> its welsh
04:57 <BabyBug> it's like cuddles with a w
04:59  * luke-jr huggles his wife.
05:00 <BabyBug> luke-jr, are you a one woman man?
05:01 <luke-jr> …
05:01 <BabyBug> what?
05:01  * sinewav is a no woman man
05:01 <BabyBug> i'd be your woman!
05:02 <BabyBug> if you were younger
05:02 <sinewav> :(
05:02 <BabyBug> and had boobs
05:02 <sinewav> :( :(
05:02 <BabyBug> and you were hot
05:02 <sinewav> ok stop. I'm gonna cry.
05:02 <BabyBug> :)
05:02 <BabyBug> lol
05:02 <BabyBug> sowwie! :P
05:02  * ct|kyle kills BabyBug
05:02 <smoothice> luke-jr: I don't give a crap
05:03 <BabyBug> smoothice, how old are you again btw?
05:04 <luke-jr> BabyBug: he's 5
05:04 <BabyBug> luke-jr, i meant physical age, not mental
05:04 <luke-jr> o
05:04 <luke-jr> sorry
05:04 <luke-jr> don't know that one
05:05 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: 37
05:05 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: you're joking
05:06 <luke-jr> no wonder smoothice can't learn
05:06 <luke-jr> he's too old!
05:06  * luke-jr runs
05:06 <ct|kyle> oh wait
05:06 <ct|kyle> LOL
05:06 <ct|kyle> I though she said sinewav LOL
05:06 <BabyBug> You know, if you added up all the money spent on food in one week in europe and america, It'd be enough money to feed the third world population for a year.
05:06 <BabyBug> Now is it just me, or do you lot think we're getting over charged for our food?
05:06 <luke-jr> BabyBug: that seems illogical
05:06 <sinewav> :( I hate you guys
05:06 <luke-jr> sinewav: I didn't know he meant you!
05:07 <luke-jr> sinewav: I thought I was insulting smoothice
05:07 <BabyBug> luke-jr, it's a fucking joke >.<
05:07 <sinewav> BabyBug: except they can't buy food because they don't have any.
05:07 <ct|kyle> sinewav: one minute BabyBug was talking about your age and the next it was smoothice, I got lost
05:07 <BabyBug> you lot are useless
05:07 <sinewav> it's ok!
05:08 <BabyBug> No prizes for guessing you lot are american
05:08 <luke-jr> BabyBug: America is a third-world country, foo
05:08 <sinewav> true
05:08 <BabyBug> America is a continent
05:08 <ct|kyle> we have a president that refuses to answer the questions he is asked
05:09 <luke-jr> USA I mean
05:09 <BabyBug> And since when do jokes NOT have technicalities ffs
05:09 <BabyBug> There's always something wrong in a joke
05:09 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: do we have a president?
05:09 <BabyBug> it's the twats the point them out!
05:11 <luke-jr> after all, if Obama really isn't eligible, then we have a vacancy
05:11 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: not sure, but the person everyone cliams to be refused to answer the questions he was asked tonight
05:11 <luke-jr> what questions?
05:12 <ct|kyle> all of them
05:12 <ct|kyle> wait he did anser 1
05:12 <luke-jr> what questions?
05:12 <ct|kyle> the question Do you support of worldwide currency and he said No
05:13 <ct|kyle> If he would support a budget that did not include all 4 of his wasteful spending plans
05:21 <smoothice> luke-jr: screw you
05:21 <luke-jr> smoothice: no u!
05:21 <smoothice> luke-jr: you're as incompetent as I am
05:22 <luke-jr> lol
05:22 <smoothice> luke-jr: not in programming
05:22 <smoothice> luke-jr: life skills
05:22 <luke-jr> lol
05:23 <ct|kyle> pwnt
05:25 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: have you looked into making triggers yet
05:25 <smoothice> #si -v Dickbutt
05:25 <smoothice> luke-jr: Such a
05:25 <smoothice> .si -v Dickbutt
05:25 <BabyBug> smoothice, you're a little teenage brat, and you tell a married man with kids that he's as incompetant as you at life skills?
05:25 <tronner> smoothice: Dickbutt (adsl-76-241-87-219.dsl.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net:4534) running 0.2.8.2.1 win hybrid, Description: “Nothing special.“, Players (6/16): Amaya Fanel, chah, Corbet, KITAAAAAAAAAAAA, Nam-Ereh-Won, YourFace
05:25 <smoothice> BabyBug: lol
05:25 <smoothice> BabyBug: no worse than you buddy
05:26 <luke-jr> I think in BabyBug's case, it's her own choice
05:26 <BabyBug> ^^ lmao
05:26 <luke-jr> anyhow, smoothice
05:27 <luke-jr> this is where you really fail at life skills
05:27 <luke-jr> you don't know how to take a joke
05:27 <smoothice> lol
05:27 <smoothice> haha...
05:27 <smoothice> I was joking..
05:27 <smoothice> wasn't...
05:27 <luke-jr> you need to use more ';)'s
05:28 <luke-jr> or lulz
05:28 <smoothice> .si Dickbutt
05:28 <smoothice> LOL
05:28 <tronner> smoothice: Dickbutt: Players (5/16): Amaya Fanel, Corbet, KITAAAAAAAAAAAA, Nam-Ereh-Won, YourFace
05:29 <smoothice> nice try luke-jr
05:29 <smoothice> -.-
05:29 <luke-jr> smoothice: the game's in #anime
05:29 <ct|kyle> .calc ((.44*3.3^2)/(.22))^(1/2)
05:29 <tronner> ct|kyle: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
05:29 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: wtf?
05:29  * Lucifer got the job!
05:29 <BabyBug> HORRAY!
05:30  * BabyBug gives Lucifer a celebratory snog
05:30 <Lucifer> now all that remains is to see if they actually have enough work for me to do what I need to do ;)
05:30 <luke-jr> Lucifer: didn't you know that like yesterday? :o
05:30 <Lucifer> snog?
05:30 <BabyBug> ...
05:30 <BabyBug> french kiss! :P
05:30 <Lucifer> this morning, well, afternoon
05:30 <ct|kyle> hopefully that was the correct way to do that physics problem
05:30 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: probably not
05:30 <BabyBug> Lucifer, and how long until that is seen?
05:30 <ct|kyle> ya that is my guess to
05:31 <Lucifer> BabyBug: hopefully we'll see tomorrow :)
05:31 <BabyBug> ooo yay :)
05:31 <Lucifer> with more certainty by the end of the week
05:31 <BabyBug> then a house, then no watching cops ^^
05:31 <Lucifer> I need to work as much as humanly fucking possible between now and the end of the month so that with my first paycheck, I can do depost + first month's rent
05:31 <Lucifer> even if I can't work enough to do that, if I see enough steady work, I may attempt to borrow money/sell shit to make deposit + first month's rent
05:32 <Lucifer> so I guess tonight I should pack as much as I can
05:32  * Lucifer only has his bedroom to finish packing, and some stuff from the kitchen and living room
05:32 <BabyBug> how much is the deposit + rent?
05:32 <Lucifer> depends on the place
05:32 <BabyBug> you're packing when you don't have a place yet? lol
05:32 <Lucifer> I need to spend some time figuring out what my budget should look like, then hit up an apartment locator
05:32 <ct|kyle> A ball with mass .44 kg moving at 3.3 m/s collides head on with a ball .22 kg. if this is perfectly elastic what will the speeds of the balls be
05:32 <smoothice> luke-jr -.-
05:32 <Lucifer> well, I was either going to move into a friend's house and bank a paycheck or three, or go back to NM and stay with my parents
05:33 <smoothice> luke-jr: I'm busy --
05:33 <BabyBug> oh i see
05:33 <Lucifer> I was facing either disaster or independence, by the end of the month :)
05:33  * Lucifer did consider seeing if GodTodd could put him up
05:34 <Lucifer> so, I need to email my friend and tell him what's up, see what it'll take to move in this weekend
05:34 <BabyBug> what made you decide against godtodd?
05:34 <BabyBug> too smelly? :P
05:34 <Lucifer> hopefully I'll just be moving in with a computer, some clothes, and a few miscellaneous items, and storing the rest at my sister's house
05:34 <Lucifer> GodTodd is in Plano, which is 3 hours from Austin
05:34 <BabyBug> oh
05:34 <Lucifer> it would at least enable me to see my kids (my parents' house is too far), if I had transportation, but I'd have to start fresh with a job
05:35 <Lucifer> I would rather do something that let me stay in austin, but I can't freeload
05:35 <Lucifer> so what I needed was someone who could put me up in austin for a limited time, and was willing to do so without significant financial commitment
05:35 <Lucifer> if I had that, I could keep my job at the school, but to be able to set a reasonable limited time, I needed that second job
05:36 <Lucifer> I couldn't do it with the promise of finding a job.  Hell, I've been looking for 6 months, it's not like jobs are readily available right now
05:36 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: so how should I calculate that problem :P
05:36 <Lucifer> so, if all I had was the promise of finding a job, I needed someone who was very close to me
05:37 <Lucifer> anyway, GodTodd would have been preferable to my parents, *if* he was both willing and had enough space to do so without inconveniencing him and his family
05:37 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: I don't know, what's the problem?
05:37 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: A ball with mass .44 kg moving at 3.3 m/s collides head on with a ball .22 kg. if this is perfectly elastic what will the speeds of the balls be
05:37 <ct|kyle> the second ball is at rest
05:37 <BabyBug> But now that you've got this second job, hopefully your friend in Austin will put you up?
05:38 <Lucifer> and how did you calculate it?  ;)
05:38  * Lucifer is vague on impulse-momentum
05:38 <Lucifer> BabyBug: my friend in austin said he'd put me up
05:38 <ct|kyle> I assume the first ball would stop
05:38 <ct|kyle> assumed*
05:38 <BabyBug> oh right, cool =)
05:38 <Lucifer> he's recently divorced (like most of my friends, heh), and he has a 6 bedroom house he can't afford anymore
05:39 <BabyBug> 6 bedroom? :|
05:39 <Lucifer> so in exchange for mega-help in packing up this house, he'll put me up for 2 months, or until the house sells and he has to move out, whichever comes first
05:39 <Lucifer> I'm going to aim for being out much sooner, of course, because soonest out is best for me
05:39 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: the first ball won't stay still, it has twice the mass of the second ball
05:39 <BabyBug> he lives on his own in that house atm?
05:39 <Lucifer> it would stay still if it had the same mass as the second ball
05:40 <Lucifer> BabyBug: yes.  I think he has custody of his kid, but I may be wrong about that
05:40 <Lucifer> his kid's 12
05:40 <luke-jr> wtf
05:40 <BabyBug> wow that must get lonely
05:40 <luke-jr> 1 kid and he needs a 6 bedroom for WHAT
05:40 <Lucifer> well, it was previously 1 kid and a wife :)
05:40 <luke-jr> still, I presume at least the wife slept with him
05:40 <Lucifer> he got it at a good price, but he's trying to sell it at a bad time
05:41 <Lucifer> it's the house he and his wife bought together, and he's stuck with it right now
05:41 <luke-jr> if they only have 1 kid, shouldn't it be more like 2 bedroom? :x
05:41 <BabyBug> were the other rooms sex rooms for parties or something? :P
05:41 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: you need to have a formula somewhere to give you the two velocity unknowns
05:42 <Lucifer> you have to do m1v1 = m1v2 + m2v2
05:42 <Lucifer> er
05:42 <Lucifer> you have to do m1v1 = m1v2 + m2v3
05:42 <Lucifer> I don't know what the other rooms are for, I just know that they made a lot of money and bought a nice house
05:42 <Lucifer> which is what I woudl have done too, and had a library, a music room, etc.
05:43 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: but that is 1 equation with 2 unknowns
05:43 <luke-jr> well, yeah, I got +2 bedrooms than I needed
05:43 <luke-jr> but seriously, +4?
05:43 <Lucifer> right, which is why you need a second equation
05:43  * Lucifer is looking it up in one of his physics textbooks
05:44 <ct|kyle> wich is what I can't figure out from this crappy text book
05:44 <luke-jr> smoothice: I'm lynching you today.
05:44 <BabyBug> luke-jr, bedrooms don't have to be kept as bedrooms though :P
05:44 <luke-jr> BabyBug: I can't imagine needing 4 extras even if you ran a home business
05:44 <Lucifer> ah
05:44 <Lucifer> kinetic energy is conserved in a perfectly elastic collision
05:44 <Lucifer> so...
05:45 <Lucifer> .5m1v1^2 = .5m1v2^2 + .5m2v3^2
05:45 <BabyBug> luke-jr, well if you've got a 6 bedroomed house. You must have a fair bit of money. So....Have a home cinema in one room.....erm...music room in the other, sound proofed of course
05:45 <BabyBug> etc etc :P
05:45 <Lucifer> so there you go, solve a system of equations :)
05:47 <luke-jr> BabyBug: having money is not an excuse to waste money
05:47 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: did you see where I answered your question?  ;)  (didn't use your name, so didn't get highlighted)
05:47 <BabyBug> luke-jr, i never said it was :P
05:47 <Lucifer> having a big house isn't necessarily a waste of money, though
05:48 <luke-jr> Lucifer: if you don't need it, it is :p
05:48 <Lucifer> having a big house with rooms that you never use is a waste
05:48 <Lucifer> depends on need
05:48 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: yes
05:48 <Lucifer> technically, I don't need a library/music room/home office/etc.
05:48 <BabyBug> But would you use it?
05:48 <Lucifer> but I think my quality of life would be very high if I had those things
05:48 <Lucifer> yes, I'd use it
05:48 <BabyBug> Then it's not a waste
05:48 <luke-jr> quality of life is overrated :x
05:48 <Lucifer> I also wouldn't mind having a room to setup as a home theater
05:48 <BabyBug> luke-jr, agreed...in some aspects
05:49 <Lucifer> I would mind setting up a living room oriented around a TV as the central feature of the room
05:49 <luke-jr> my LCD monitor does just fine for a home theater IMO
05:49 <Lucifer> mine does fine for me and the kids to "watch movies", but if we want an immersive movie experience, it isn't it
05:50 <Lucifer> but I'm not about to setup a living room to give me that immersive experience, living rooms are for living, not sitting and watching moving pictures on a screen
05:50 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: obviously the key there is "perfectly elastic".  If the collision was even slightly inelastic, kinetic energy isn't conserved
05:51 <Lucifer> I used to have an article on my website talking about how new cars get so damaged in a collision
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05:51 <Lucifer> I often hear people talk about how their old car is so great because it can take a collision
05:51 <Lucifer> and occasionally you see people brag about the collisions their car has survived
05:51 <BabyBug> TV's in a living room should only be used for the music channel as background music!
05:52 <Lucifer> but the energy in the collision has to go somewhere, and some of it will get absorbed by the car
05:52 <Lucifer> so, where do you want it to go?  If the car doesn't take it, your spine will take it instead
05:52 <luke-jr> BabyBug: why bother with a TV?
05:52 <Lucifer> BabyBug: I'm willing to setup a TV in the living room, but not as *the* central feature of the room
05:52 <Lucifer> it has to be out of the way, so it doesn't interfere in use of the room
05:53 <Lucifer> I'd prefer it to be a flat panel that hangs on the wall, so the screensaver would provide decoration to the room
05:53 <Lucifer> that way, when the TV is not in use, it's still being useful
05:53 <BabyBug> luke-jr, How else would one watch a music channel?
05:53 <Lucifer> obviously I'd have a mythTV box hooked up to it :)
05:53 <Lucifer> it would be a multi-use appliance because of the mythTV thing
05:53 <BabyBug> mythtv?
05:53 <Lucifer> yeah
05:53 <Lucifer> you should google that
05:54 <luke-jr> BabyBug: mplayer
05:54 <luke-jr> and music isn't 'watched', it's 'heard'
05:54 <BabyBug> The music channel is watched.
05:54 <BabyBug> Why else are videos made if they're not going to be watched?
05:54 <luke-jr> videos aren't music
05:55 <Lucifer> videos are really expensive visualizations
05:55 <BabyBug> You're missing the point...I said MUSIC CHANNEL
05:55 <BabyBug> not music
05:55 <luke-jr> so a channel of music..?
05:56 <luke-jr> ]dict channel
05:56 <ljrbot> luke-jr: Error: "dict" is not a valid command.
05:56 <luke-jr> f u ljrbot
05:56 <luke-jr> .dict channel
05:56 <tronner> luke-jr: foldoc, gcide, easton, wn, jargon, and moby-thes responded: easton: Channel (1.) The bed of the sea or of a river (Ps. 18:15; Isa. 8:7). (2.) The "chanelbone" (Job 31:22 marg.), properly "tube" or "shaft," an old term for the collar-bone; gcide: Channel \Chan"nel\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. {Channeled}, or {Channelled}; p. pr. & vb. n. {Channeling}, or {Channelling}.] 1. To form a channel in; to (22 more messages)
05:56 <BabyBug> a channel which plays music videos yes
05:56 <luke-jr> …………….. tronner
05:56 <BabyBug> What do you call em over ther? erm.. Like NBC....
05:56 <Lucifer> I'd like to insert my channel into your channel
05:56 <BabyBug> television station?
05:57 <Lucifer> we call it MTV or VH1, because that's all there is
05:57 <Lucifer> and last I checked, MTV played very little music
05:57 <BabyBug> =\
05:57 <Lucifer> in any case, I don't listen to the kinds of music those stations play :)
05:57 <BabyBug> Wow...there's like 100 different music channels to watch here.. :|
05:57 <Lucifer> I suppose there may be more now, but I doubt it
05:58 <Lucifer> there are music-only channels, channels that transmit music without video
05:58 <BabyBug> they're called radio channels
05:58 <Lucifer> those are worthwhile because there are so many, and you pay for them, so they don't do advertising
05:58 <Lucifer> no, channels that come over the cable/satellite/whatever your tv service is
05:58 <Lucifer> radio is something else :)
05:59 <BabyBug> Yeh erm...
05:59 <BabyBug> You get that over TV here
05:59 <BabyBug> BBC Radio 1
05:59 <BabyBug> You receive it through the satellite tv box
05:59 <BabyBug> lol
05:59 <BabyBug> BBC Radio 2
05:59 <Lucifer> right, that's what I'm talking about :)
05:59 <luke-jr> what satellite tv box?
05:59 <luke-jr> I don't like non-interactive
05:59 <BabyBug> Sky
05:59 <Lucifer> actual radio is something else, it's what you put in your car, or your mp3 player might have a tuner for it
05:59 <BabyBug> Digital Box
05:59 <luke-jr> and satellite is too laggy for interactive
05:59 <BabyBug> Lucifer, yes yes i know that :P But they're called radio channels on TV
06:00 <Lucifer> iirc, what we call radio is called wireless by British people ;)
06:00 <luke-jr> Lucifer: some BlueTooth chipsets support FM
06:00 <BabyBug> For an actual radio, they're called radio stations
06:00 <Lucifer> ah, they're called music channels here :)
06:00 <Lucifer> or music stations, whatever
06:00 <Lucifer> channel and station are interchangeable, for the most part
06:00 <BabyBug> A train channel?
06:00 <BabyBug> :|
06:00 <BabyBug> =P
06:00 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: it was almost 0 m/s
06:00 <Lucifer> heh
06:01 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: really?
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06:01 <BabyBug> GodTodd!!
06:01 <ct|kyle> .95 :P
06:01 <Lucifer> that's not "almost 0 m/s"
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06:01 <Lucifer> that's "almost 1 m/s", which is prety fast
06:01 <ct|kyle> I know :P
06:02 <ct|kyle> now that I solved that the hard way of substitution is there an easyer way
06:02 <BabyBug> GodTodd, we were just talking about you. Apparently you smell so bad that lucifer can smell you from 3 hours away
06:02 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: you know how to do elimination, right?
06:02 <ct|kyle> not when I have terms that are squared
06:02 <GodTodd> good.  then my lack of bathing hasn't been for naught.
06:02 <Lucifer> er, actually, I don't think you can do elimination in that problem
06:03 <BabyBug> ewwwww
06:03 <Lucifer> because even if you square the momentum equation, you don't wind up being able to eliminate a variable
06:03 <ct|kyle> ya
06:03 <Lucifer> I also suspect you can't use matrix methods to solve, so unless your calculator can do systems of equations arbitrarily, you're stuck
06:04 <Lucifer> also, your instructor would have to let you use your calculator to do systems of equations :)
06:04 <GodTodd> it's all trial and error :)
06:04 <ct|kyle> ya I don't have that on mine
06:05 <ct|kyle> anyway I gtg
06:05 <Lucifer> I think starting with the TI-89 you get a good CAS implementation
06:05 <Lucifer> 'night
06:05  * Lucifer only has a TI-84
06:05 <ct|kyle> mine is an old TI-83 Plus SE
06:05 <Lucifer> (which lacks a CAS implementation)
06:05 <ct|kyle> basically the same one then
06:06 <Lucifer> yeah, pretty much
06:06 <Lucifer> I think I may have more memory for programs, and that's it
06:06 <Lucifer> speaking of whiches, where is it?  I think it has some rechargeable batteries in it that I need to recharge
06:06 <ct|kyle> ya, have you been able to use the program to connect it to your linux PC
06:06 <Lucifer> I don't have a cable to plug it in with
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06:07 <ct|kyle> ah
06:08 <Lucifer> GodTodd: hey, I got that job
06:08 <Lucifer> now we'll see if it actually pays enough for me to move on with my life :)
06:08 <ct|kyle> .night
06:08 <tronner> Good night ct|kyle!
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06:09 <GodTodd> Lucifer, cool :)
06:09 <GodTodd> what kinda job is it?
06:14 <Lucifer> search engine evaluation
06:14 <Lucifer> sorry about that pause, heh, was writing an email to the friend who offered to put me up for a month or two while I get better feet placement
06:15 <Lucifer> basically, I'll be given a search query and a webpage, and will have to evaluate the webpage in relation to the query
06:15 <Lucifer> they have hundreds of people doing this work, and many different people will look at each webpage
06:15 <Lucifer> this information is used as an input to the search algorithm, obviously
06:15 <Lucifer> :)
06:17 <Lucifer> so it'll be a somewhat tedious job, but at $13.50/hour and no other job offers on the horizon, it'll be a welcome job :)
06:17 <Lucifer> I figure I'll do it for a little while, get my shit settled and straightened up, then begin the job search again
06:18 <Lucifer> if I can, I'll try to set it up for a big enough June and July payment to take the time period off work at the school when I'll have my kids
06:18 <Lucifer> we'll have to see how well that works out, though.  if I can't take off that time period, I'll need to find a baby-sitter instead :(
06:19 <BabyBug> Do you know what happened to armabot yet?
06:19 <Lucifer> no, I don't
06:20 <BabyBug> hrmphicles
06:21 <BabyBug> wellll, i'm off to bed
06:21 <BabyBug> good night!
06:21 <Lucifer> 'night BabyBug (hi there!)
06:22 <luke-jr> night + hi? :p
06:24 <GodTodd> hrmm...what all's involved in the evaluation of the page relative to the query?
06:25 <Lucifer> looking at the page and filling out a web form
06:25 <GodTodd> heh
06:25 <Lucifer> some research may be needed to familiarize myself with the topic, or determine the user's intent
06:26 <Lucifer> I'm supposed to be able to do 30 per hour, if that gives you an idea
06:26 <Lucifer> so two minutes for each one, on average
06:27 <GodTodd> ah
06:27 <GodTodd> how do they track your time?
06:30 <Lucifer> they don't, exactly
06:30 <Lucifer> I'm supposed to track it and invoice them, I don't yet know if they give me tools to do that or if I have to provide my own
06:30 <Lucifer> but they do track how many queries I process, and can compare that to the time I billed them for to make sure they're getting their money's worth
06:31 <Lucifer> invoicing will only be once a month, which is why I needed a two month maximum time period when I was looking for someone in Austin to stay with
06:31 <Lucifer> (I may not have mentioend here that I was doing that, heh)
06:31 <GodTodd> heh
06:31 <Lucifer> if invoicing was twice a month, I could reasonably expect to have move-out money in the middle of April
06:31 <GodTodd> bad living situation?
06:32 <Lucifer> terrible
06:32 <Lucifer> also, having to borrow money every month is a serious problem for me
06:32 <Lucifer> feels too much like mooching, you know?
06:33 <Lucifer> so, I've got a friend locally that can put me up, and I'll help him with stuff he needs help with, and then I'll move asap
06:33 <Lucifer> because even staying with him won't be terribly permanent, and I really *do* need my own place :)
06:34 <Lucifer> getting out from under this roommate situation will help a lot, at the income level I expect to be at, it would take several months for me to save up enough to move into my own place, if I had to pay bills in the meantime
06:35 <GodTodd> truly
06:35 <Lucifer> well, I'm a go grab a smoke and start some meat thawing
06:35 <Lucifer> I haven't been eating well the last couple of days, and it really showed today when I rode my bike to work
06:35 <GodTodd> stress?
06:36 <Lucifer> yeah, probably :/
06:36 <Lucifer> there's a low-lying stress associated with doing anything in the kitchen as well, because if I leave something some way my roommate doesn't like, she apparently keeps a list and waits to dump it all on me at once
06:36 <Lucifer> it almost feels like I went out of the frying pan and into the fire
06:37 <GodTodd> ah...i had a roommate like that once
06:37 <Lucifer> almost, but not quite.  :)  She doesn't interrogate me, heh
06:37 <Lucifer> heh
06:37 <GodTodd> oddly enough she was female too
06:37 <GodTodd> heh
06:37 <Lucifer> the thing I've really learned is that while having roommates immediately after a divorce was really helpful, I'm really too stubborn and set in my ways and attitudes to live in a roommate situation
06:38 <GodTodd> me too
06:38 <Lucifer> I could probably adapt to a new wife, that's part of the commitment (which I'm not in a hurry to make again), but there's no call for adapting to roommates
06:38 <GodTodd> yeah...pretty much I can't adapt well to living with someone that won't give me sex
06:38 <GodTodd> heh
06:39 <Lucifer> I hope it turns out I can afford a reasonably priced two bedroom apartment
06:39 <Lucifer> that would be perfect for right now
06:40 <Lucifer> small enough that I can reasonably furnish it (mostly off freecycle), but big enough that I could put the kids up with some comfort
06:40 <GodTodd> yep
06:40 <Lucifer> I think with some clever decorating, I could make a 1 bedroom comfortable for the time period needed
06:41 <Lucifer> but I don't think I could make *one bedroom* comfortable for it, heh
06:41  * Lucifer is looking at the long summer visit now to give guidance on what he needs to do in the next month or two
06:41 <Lucifer> anyway, I'm stepping out for a smoke.
06:41 <GodTodd> aight
07:03 <luke-jr> Lucifer: I have a 2 bdrm apartment right now, but it's too small :<
07:04 <luke-jr> the server and PBX make one of the bedrooms unusable for much else
07:21 <Lucifer> hmmm, I'm not going to have to keep my kids in my place all the time
07:21 <Lucifer> or else a 2 bedroom would be too small
07:21 <Lucifer> but for the time periods I have to deal with right now, 2 bedrooms will be fine
07:22 <Lucifer> hell, I can make a 1 bedroom apartment work for what I have to provide right now, provided it has at least a small dining area in it
07:22 <Lucifer> it can be surprising how many places there are in a 1 bedroom apartment where people can get privacy when they need it
07:23 <Lucifer> the real issue I want to solve is having enough space to provide a sleeping surface for every kid, and hopefully a separate one for myself
07:23 <Lucifer> although, if I have to, I can provide two kid beds and one queen sized bed, and my youngest will be happy to share a bed with me
07:25 <luke-jr> my problem I guess is that one bedroom has the servers, the living area has the desktop, and the kitchen/dining is open to the living area..
07:25 <luke-jr> so there's only one bedroom left with silence
07:30 <luke-jr> err, 0.2.8 doesn't compile :x
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07:43 <Lucifer> I'll probably wind up with computers in every room too, but I don't see how that makes the rooms unusable :)
07:43 <Lucifer> I'll put out an effort at some point to make as many of them as possible noiseless, however
07:44 <Lucifer> with a two bedroom apartment, I could put two kid beds in the second bedroom and a futon in the living room, and everybody has their own sleeping surface
07:44 <Lucifer> in that case, I can talk to my daughter about whether she'd prefer my room or the living room, we'll agree on whatever gives her the most privacy and she's comfortable with
07:44 <Lucifer> but we'll have to see
07:44  * Lucifer goes into his email to find one of the apartment locators he knows
07:48 <luke-jr> Lucifer: kinda hard to keep a PowerEdge 6400 quiet :p
08:04 <Lucifer> but not impossible
08:05  * Lucifer wants one of those pepper tablets
08:05  * Lucifer puts it on his list of things to buy as soon as he can afford such things
08:11 <Lucifer> http://www.amazon.com/Pepper-Pad-Web-Player-White/dp/B000G0OKFK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1237965033&sr=1-1  <--- holy crap, $700!
08:11 <Lucifer> those things were only $250 a year ago or so
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14:20 <luke-jr> Lucifer: doesn't look much better than the (significantly cheaper) N810
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14:30 <noob13> luke-jr: that one is pretty neat... i want that!
14:30 <noob13> Maemo is cool too
14:30 <luke-jr> I got my N810 for under $200
14:31 <noob13> nice!
14:31 <noob13> prices here are around 250 euros :/
14:31 <luke-jr> ebay
14:32 <luke-jr> mine was missing a power adapter, so I got it for like $175
14:32 <luke-jr> then went and bought a power adapter for ~$8
14:34 <noob13> is it compatible with other than nokia plugs and memory cards?
14:35 <luke-jr> MiniSD
14:35 <luke-jr> a small USB thing
14:35 <luke-jr> 3.5mm headset jack
14:36 <luke-jr> WiFi
14:36 <noob13> ok thats good..
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15:53 <Lucifer> .math calc 780*3
15:53 <tronner> Lucifer: 2340
15:53 <Lucifer> .math calc 40*4.1
15:53 <tronner> Lucifer: 164
15:53 <Lucifer> .math calc 2340/164
15:53 <tronner> Lucifer: 14.2682926829
15:53 <Lucifer> well, I can't afford that, if I have to average $14/hour per month
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15:54 <Lucifer> .math calc 589*3
15:54 <tronner> Lucifer: 1767
15:54 <Lucifer> .math calc 1767/164
15:54 <tronner> Lucifer: 10.7743902439
15:54 <Lucifer> that's more reasonable
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16:15 <smoothice> wrtlprnft: ping
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16:32 <epsy> smoothice, he's probably not going to answer before a while
16:33 <smoothice> epsy: any specific reason?
16:33 <epsy> I don't know
16:33 <dlh> don't think he has been on irc for a while
16:33 <epsy> what is the matter anyway?
16:33 <smoothice> something regarding lastseen
16:34 <epsy> what in particular?
16:34 <smoothice> I'd like to see if there's any way to implement it on my own site
16:35 <epsy> make your own?
16:35 <epsy> [do you want to]
16:35 <smoothice> make my own master server?
16:35 <epsy> or just use it?
16:35 <epsy> you don't need to run a master for it
16:35 <smoothice> Where do I get the source?
16:36 <epsy> there is no source for the lastseen&co stuff
16:36 <epsy> and it's good this way(they suck)
16:36 <epsy> buuut
16:36 <epsy> there is a php lib by wrtl himself to query masters and servers
16:37 <smoothice> armagetron-php-client
16:37 <smoothice> yeah I have that
16:37 <epsy> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=193934
16:37 <epsy> well, now go build a DB with it
16:37 <epsy> hehe
16:38 <smoothice> Does it utilize cron??
16:38 <epsy> no
16:38 <epsy> it's a library, not an application
16:38 <smoothice> but then how does it keep track of when that nick was last on a server
16:38 <epsy> you have to do [and time efficiently] pings to masters and servers
16:39 <epsy> the way lastseen works is simple:
16:39 <dlh> When you query a server for info, it gives you the current players on it
16:39 <epsy> it stores one row for each server at, roughly, each minute
16:39 <dlh> Like when you are browsing the master server in arma
16:39 <epsy> which is highly inefficient for finding a player, which is why it is so slow
16:40 <smoothice> How does it run each minute?
16:40 <epsy> best thing for a lastseen-like app would be to store one row per player
16:40 <smoothice> cron?
16:40 <smoothice> crontab?
16:40 <epsy> just a php script I guess
16:40 <dlh> cron is a way to run scripts at a certain time or reoccurring schedule.
16:40 <epsy> yeah, you pretty much have to poll servers all the time
16:41 <smoothice> ack...
16:41 <epsy> it's not all servers each minute
16:41 <epsy> rather a rotation
16:41 <epsy> [17:40] <epsy>: best thing for a lastseen-like app would be to store one row per player
16:41 <smoothice> ok
16:41 <epsy> and store in that row last time seen and last server
16:42 <smoothice> and would a php script like that be run via the crontab or something similar?
16:42 <epsy> it would run all the time
16:42 <dlh> Sure, you could have it run every 10 minutes or so
16:47 <dlh> I think you would want two different programs for it. One to get the master list, and another to just query the server info and update the db
16:47 <dlh> Getting the master list is slow, and doesn't need to be done as often
16:50 <smoothice> dlh: oh ok
16:50 <smoothice> dlh: I don't know if I have the server resources to do that
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17:32 <Vanhayes> .tea
17:32 <tronner> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
17:35 <smoothice> @tea
17:48 <MrBougo> hello Van Hayes :D
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17:55 <smoothice> epsy: I did a workaround
17:55 <smoothice> epsy: iFrames to wrtl's site :
17:56 <smoothice> D:
17:56 <smoothice> :D
17:56 <KiNG> lol
17:56 <KiNG> smoothice, what you working on?
17:58 <smoothice> KiNG: http://smootharma.ath.cx/nw-find.php
18:00 <smoothice> KiNG: but it's horribly inefficient and barely works at all
18:00 <smoothice> KiNG: takes too long
18:03 <dlh> smoothice: you might want to ask wrtlprnft for permission to use the script like that
18:04 <smoothice> dlh: yeah that's kinda why I pinged him earlier
18:04 <smoothice> dlh: I won't publish it until I find a better solution
18:04 <smoothice> dlh: too much bandwidth used also
18:06 <Lackadaisical> .tea
18:06 <tronner> Lackadaisical: Fortress Café: Players (7/32): -»|okaerf, AbsYntH|NH|, DDMJ, n|A|nou, sine.wav, |x|Dimb, ~|DS|~ Judders
18:14 <smoothice> .rss update
18:14 <smoothice> .rss 0.2.8
18:14 <tronner> smoothice: 1110: don't output src/test/Makefile || 1109: Expose detailed prefix spam settings on all builds. || 1108: Removed test for now. They don't seem to compile, at least n... || 1107: If a message is directed towards a player, cut the player na... || 1106: Added prefix spam entry || 1105: Merging prefix spam branch. || 1104: Fixed last commit. || 1103: Really fixed #251447: names were filtered (2 more messages)
18:15 <smoothice> .rss armabugs
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18:26 <epsy> smoothice, erm, why iframes?!
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18:33 <KiNG> smoothice, you busy atm?
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18:37 <KiNG> dorka!
18:37 <epsy> hai Durka
18:37 <epsy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bv3hCyBE08
18:37 <Durka> ah, been here more than 30 seconds
18:37 <Durka> cya
18:37 <KiNG> lol
18:37 <KiNG> BYE
18:37 <KiNG> :)
18:37 <Durka> im jk
18:37 <Durka> sup epsy, king oO
18:37 <epsy> oh :(
18:37  * KiNG is code
18:37 <KiNG> hehe
18:37 <KiNG> i just random names to get on this IRC thingy
18:39 <epsy> Be Crowned "Best Drunker on YouTube"
18:39 <KiNG> hey epsy, i made this editor for server_info.cfg, and it shows everything, welll.... edit something and save it, you'll see what my issues are
18:39 <KiNG> http://armaclassic.comuv.com/test/test.php
18:39 <BabyBug> .tea
18:39 <tronner> BabyBug: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): Årçtic, Cinema Cheater, DDMJ (DDMJ@forums), Hebetudinous, Ww_Compguygene (compguygene@forums), |x| PlayerNub (PlayerNub@x/member)
18:39 <KiNG> nvm -.- website under review still i guess
18:40 <Durka> KiNG: i'll help u fix it
18:40 <KiNG> okie
18:40 <Durka> we'll talk on msn
18:40 <Durka> hey epsy
18:40 <Durka> i'm running the sty+ct branch
18:40 <epsy> shark
18:40 <Durka> does that mean i can do crazy shit like transporting zones like in flower power
18:41 <epsy> possibly
18:41 <epsy> ask ct|kyle
18:41 <Durka> ct|kyle: !!
18:42 <KiNG> http://vcl-clan.com/test/test.php
18:42 <KiNG> kyle is afk
18:42 <KiNG> he told me he will bbl
18:44 <Durka> lol fail
18:44 <Durka> KiNG: send me the file on msn
18:44 <KiNG> now, that site is different from my VPS server, i dont want to host this script on my VPS server, because i am unfamiliar with linux crap, so, i made this script to hopefully be able to edit it
18:44 <Durka> we'll talk there
18:44 <KiNG> fine
18:46 <BabyBug> Durka, go spectator on cafe instead of leaving the chatbot on >.<
18:46 <Durka> BabyBug: done :p
18:46 <BabyBug> ty ^^
18:46 <Durka> :D
18:49 <dlh> BabyBug:
18:49 <BabyBug> dlh
18:52 <BabyBug> ...
18:52 <BabyBug> dlh!!
18:52 <dlh> You were afk in cafe, was trying to get your attention
18:52 <dlh> :)
18:53 <BabyBug> i was not! i was just talking!
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19:34 <Vanhayes> .tea
19:34 <tronner> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
19:34 <Lucifer> .coffee
19:34 <Lucifer> .beer
19:34 <Lucifer> .wine
19:35 <Lucifer> tronner: you suck
19:35 <epsy> @ping
19:35 <teabot> pong
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19:44 <Vanhayes> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=205196#205196 <-- who are these older elite people he is talking about? Is this a clan thing or am i just way out of the loop
19:52 <epsy> it's just a trollbait
19:58 <Durka> Vanhayes: he's takling about people that played like 2 years ago
19:58 <Durka> really old right?
19:58 <Durka> ;P
19:58 <epsy> :)
19:59 <Vanhayes> psh, i quit playing tron 2 years ago
20:00 <MrBougo> you quit too?
20:04 <Vanhayes> ya, didnt take very well though
20:04 <Vanhayes> someone should invent a patch
20:06 <Durka> haha
20:09 <MrBougo> wut :p
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20:11 <nsh22> herro
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20:16 <Durka> hi nsh22
20:16 <nsh22> Durka: hi
20:16 <nsh22> ]hi
20:16 <ljrbot> Hi, nsh22.
20:17 <smoothice> yo
20:17 <nsh22> SMOOTH! wtf are you doing home
20:17 <smoothice> uh
20:17 <smoothice> I came home?
20:17 <nsh22> where have you been?
20:17 <smoothice> trip
20:17 <nsh22> ....
20:18 <smoothice> ?
20:18 <smoothice> I'm leaving again today
20:18 <nsh22> to go where?
20:18 <smoothice> mountains
20:18 <smoothice> skiing
20:19 <smoothice> haven't gone since late December
20:19 <smoothice> very disappointing
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20:19 <nsh22> smoothice: could you give me and zurd a litle heads up nextime you are away for a while? :P
20:20 <smoothice> I was expecting to have a stable Internet connection
20:20 <smoothice> But I was wrong
20:20 <smoothice> and we were busy all day
20:21 <smoothice> Nothing I could do nsh22
20:21 <nsh22> iight
20:21 <Durka> WTF
20:21 <joda_bot> smoothice: enjoy the skiing
20:21 <joda_bot> :-)
20:21 <smoothice> joda_bot: :D
20:21 <smoothice> joda_bot: <3 Colorado
20:21 <joda_bot> did my link give you any ideas ?
20:21 <smoothice> yes
20:22 <joda_bot> the one about large php database objects :-)
20:22 <smoothice> yes
20:22 <smoothice> nsh22: nothing I could do....
20:22 <smoothice> Durka: ?
20:22 <smoothice> joda_bot: yeah
20:22 <joda_bot> :-)
20:22 <Durka> i keep getting this stupid Resource id #4 garbage
20:22 <smoothice> Fail
20:24 <Durka> :'(
20:25 <ljrbot> New news from armagetronadbzr: [themes] r15 changed fontsize, fixed some ie and safari things
20:31 <nsh22> smoothice: when i make a server, do i need to make an SvcConfig everytime?
20:32 <luke-jr> LOL
20:32 <epsy> can you expand "garbage"
20:32 <epsy> ?
20:33  * luke-jr imagines the look on smoothice's face
20:33 <MrBougo> g a r b a g e
20:33 <epsy> not that way
20:33 <nsh22> luke-jr: do i?
20:33 <luke-jr> nsh22: setup-newuser makes it
20:33 <nsh22> so how do i edit it?
20:34 <luke-jr> nsh22: and the presense of SvcConfig is what makes it a service with the control panel and stuff
20:34 <luke-jr> a text editor
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20:34 <nsh22> where in the root flder whould i find the file?
20:34 <luke-jr> wtf?
20:35 <luke-jr> it's /home/USER/svc/SERVICE/SvcConfig
20:35 <nsh22> ok thx
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20:36 <BabyBug> HELLO!
20:36 <nsh22> HI!
20:36 <MrBougo> Vanhayes__, lool
20:36 <MrBougo> lol*
20:36 <BabyBug> go away nsh22
20:36 <nsh22> :"(
20:36 <nsh22> MrBougo: i finished my cake :P
20:37 <MrBougo> ah! :D
20:37 <MrBougo> pics or it didnt happen
20:37 <nsh22> i hve pics
20:38 <Durka> sweet, i fixed it
20:44 <MrBougo> nsh22, show em!
20:45 <nsh22> one minute...jeez :P
20:46 <MrBougo> :p
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20:50 <epsy> SHARK BABYBUG
20:50 <BabyBug> epsy?
20:50 <epsy> :)
20:50 <BabyBug> wtf?
20:51 <epsy> ask liza
20:51 <BabyBug> How about you just say? :
20:51 <BabyBug> :P
20:52 <epsy> nah :)
20:52 -!- Vanhayes__ is now known as Vanhayes
20:52 <smoothice> nsh22: :O
20:52 <epsy> meh, I am now really addicted to this stupid effect:
20:52 <epsy> http://epsy.teamkilled.net:8080/~epsy/screenshots/trem/shot0048-1.jpg
20:52 <smoothice> nsh22: A top executive at troubled insurer AIG publicly resigns and says he will donate his entire bonus to charity.
20:52 <smoothice> ^ = big deal
20:52 <Vanhayes> .what was his bonus?
20:53 <BabyBug> Lucifer, ping
20:53 <epsy> $1
20:53 <nsh22> smoothice: cool, i hope aig gets raped by taxes
20:53 <smoothice> Vanhayes: No idea... somewhere between $12 million to $72 million
20:53 <Vanhayes> add a few 0s and i think that might be close epsy
20:53 <smoothice> nsh22: http://smootharma.ath.cx/
20:53 <epsy> yeah
20:53 <epsy> Lucifer, ping
20:54 <nsh22> well be back soon?
20:54 <Vanhayes> hmm, i think i need to become a corrupt banker
20:54 <BabyBug> oi epsy! back off!
20:54 <epsy> Lucifer, ping
20:54 <epsy> BabyBug, you ack off or I do this to you: http://epsy.teamkilled.net:8080/~epsy/screenshots/trem/shot0048-1.jpg
20:54 <Vanhayes> probably need to have connections tho
20:55 <epsy> Vanhayes, everyone needs that
20:56 <Vanhayes> i mean connections with like, the devil or something
20:56 <Vanhayes> for a 12 million or more bonus anyways
20:57  * Vanhayes will sell his soul for 12 million a year
20:57 <Vanhayes> any takers?
20:57 <Vanhayes> its slightly used, but still goo
20:57 <Vanhayes> d
20:59 <Vanhayes> how about just a one time payment of 12 million, anyone?
20:59 <Vanhayes> 10 million?
20:59 <smoothice> nice try Vanhayes
20:59 <Vanhayes> ok, 1 million obo
20:59 <smoothice> you would use it incorrectly
20:59 <smoothice> not invest it
20:59 <smoothice> waste it
21:00 <Vanhayes> id blow it all on a vacation to las vegas that i wouldnt remember
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21:01 <Vanhayes> maybe wake up in mexico a week later without pants
21:01 <smoothice> wtf....
21:01 <smoothice> ....
21:01 <Vanhayes> i can dream anyways
21:01 <smoothice> I had a flight stop in Vegas in Saturday
21:01 <smoothice> Those folks are wasteful
21:01 <smoothice> too many lights
21:02 <smoothice> what a damn waste
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21:02 <Vanhayes> closet i came was around 500 miles on a road trip, would have went there except I had to drive back for work in 2 days
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21:03 <smoothice> yeah
21:03 <smoothice> well
21:03 <smoothice> flying there at night
21:03 <smoothice> wow
21:03 <smoothice> so many lights...
21:04 <smoothice> zurd: yo dude
21:04 <Zurd> smoothice: dude yo
21:04 <Zurd> where you flying at ngiht?
21:05 <Vanhayes> ok, last offer, ill sell it for 1000 bucks and a one way ticket to vegas
21:06 <Zurd> |-)|-)|-)
21:06 <Vanhayes> bah, none of you a good deal when you see it
21:10 <Zurd> sell what?
21:11 <MrBougo> nsh22 ? :p
21:11 <nsh22> his soul o0
21:11 <nsh22> MrBougo: im finding a good spot for them,
21:11 <MrBougo> :D
21:11 <epsy> BabyBug, any success with lucifer?
21:11 <BabyBug> epsy, he wont pong
21:11 <epsy> ah
21:11 <epsy> what is it already
21:12 <epsy> @raise error
21:12 <BabyBug> eh?
21:12 <epsy> @success
21:12 <teabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
21:15 <BabyBug> epsy, you know version.py?
21:15 <BabyBug> Is that going to do what version needs to do with .svn and /CVS aswell?
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21:18 <epsy> no, only bzr
21:18 <epsy> BabyBug,
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21:50 <epsy> @tea
21:50 <teabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): /dev/laura/girl, lovecolt, power, Seatbelts, |A|rctic juice, |x| Raiden
21:50 <epsy> mmh, I sigh already
22:05 <nsh22> MrBougo: http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk26/nsh22/DSCF0929.jpg <==== cake
22:05 <MrBougo> heck yey
22:05 <MrBougo> xD
22:05 <nsh22> it doesnt look too bad, for a fondant noob
22:06 <MrBougo> gotta agree
22:06 <MrBougo> I wouldnt do it any better
22:06 <epsy> PIE
22:06 <nsh22> whatch think?
22:06 <MrBougo> also the cake itself would be failed
22:06 <MrBougo> raw in the inside
22:06 <MrBougo> yummy liquid mummy stuff
22:06 <nsh22> no, the cake was awesome
22:06 <nsh22> no rawness in middle
22:07 <MrBougo> I'm telling you what it would be like if I had done it :p
22:07 <nsh22> ah, do you do that kind of stuff?
22:08 <MrBougo> no! that's why :D
22:08 <nsh22> lol
22:08 <nsh22> luke-jr: go look at my godcake
22:08 <luke-jr> …
22:09 <nsh22> http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk26/nsh22/DSCF0929.jpg
22:21 <BabyBug> it looks like it's been ran over by a steam roller
22:22 <nsh22> BabyBug: :( how so?
22:22 <epsy> it's yellow
22:22 <BabyBug> It's just plain shit
22:23 <Vanhayes> you made a man cake...
22:23 <epsy> it's awesome for a homemade cake I admit tho
22:23 <epsy> I wouldn't be able to put so much work in a cake
22:23 <BabyBug> It looks like diarrhea!
22:23 <epsy> your mum looks like crzrcczhhrchz!
22:24 <Vanhayes> its a cake of man
22:24 <nsh22> BabyBug: are you serious,
22:24 <MrBougo> epsy, crzrcczhhrchz looks like your mum
22:24 <BabyBug> nsh22, i'm always serious
22:24 <nsh22> Vanhayes: its a sarcouyghagus in egypt
22:24 <Vanhayes> dead man cake then
22:24 <epsy> BabyBug is always serious.
22:24 <nsh22> BabyBug: you hurt my fellings :(
22:24 <Vanhayes> nice job btw, just saying its aman cake
22:24 <BabyBug> nsh22, Is that meant to make me feel bad?
22:25 <epsy> BabyBug is in a bad mood after yesterday's convo :D
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22:25 <BabyBug> epsy, yesterdays convo?
22:25 <BabyBug> i can't remember yesterdays convo :P
22:25 <epsy> bout Welsh language
22:25 <BabyBug> oooo that
22:26 <BabyBug> nah, cunts trying to insult welsh doesn't put me in a bad mood
22:26 <epsy> ok
22:26 <epsy> BabyBug is always serious.
22:26 <ct|kyle> actually BabyBug you were quite evil last night
22:27 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, stfu you virgin
22:27 <nsh22> lmao
22:27 <ct|kyle> you stfu you slut
22:27 <NiNJA> :o
22:27 <BabyBug> hey at least people look at me twice
22:28 <nsh22> hahahah LOL
22:28 <NiNJA> O No Non Nein!
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22:53 <fonkay> boo
22:53 <BabyBug> BOO!
22:54 -!- Lizmatic [n=Lizmatic@78-27-12-206.dsl.alice.nl] has joined #armagetron
22:54  * fonkay is scary
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22:56 <nsh22> uh oh, liz is here
22:56 <Lizmatic> just here to spy on my e-lover
22:57 <luke-jr> BabyBug: run
22:57 <BabyBug> i haven't done anything wrong!
22:57 <Lizmatic> besides being a slut!?
22:57 <BabyBug> you weren't complaining about that last night >.<
22:58 <ct|kyle> Lizmatic: BabyBug has been a bad girl since you left
22:59 <epsy> a very bad girl!
22:59 <BabyBug> Lizmatic, don't listen to him. He's fat, fugly and still a virgin. Nothing he says is true
22:59 <ct|kyle> see Lizmatic she is being mean :'(
23:00 <Lizmatic> she's just stating the obvious
23:00 <Lizmatic> xD
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23:14 <nsh22> lol liz
23:25 <ljrbot> New news from armagetronadbzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1111 Turn down PREFIX_SPAM_START_COLOR_MULTIPLIER
23:26 <epsy> that's one of a spam_ish_config_item_huh
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23:45 <noob13> .tea
23:45 <tronner> noob13: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
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Log from 2009-03-26:
--- Day changed Thu Mar 26 2009
00:07 <nsh22> any1 kno how to make this into a while statement (java btw) http://rafb.net/p/TnAjts64.html
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00:20 <nsh22> any1 kno how to make this into a while statement (java btw) http://rafb.net/p/TnAjts64.html
00:24 <luke-jr> nsh22: stop trying to cheat on homeowrk
00:24 <nsh22> :( how you know?
00:25 <luke-jr> nsh22: it's obvious
00:27 <luke-jr> nsh22: 1. that code is horrible
00:27 <luke-jr> 2. that code cannot use a while statement
00:27 <luke-jr> 3. that code should use a switch statement
00:27 <nsh22> i can only use ifs and loops
00:28 <luke-jr> how lame
00:28 <luke-jr> tell the teacher that switch is a form of if
00:28 <nsh22> yeah....
00:29 <nsh22> im not doing an entire rewrite...the program works, it just doesnt loop back to the menu
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01:06 <zurd> what does
01:06 <zurd> Thu Mar 26 00:03:37 2009 *** Setting DEDICATED_IDLE to 23.9497222222222  Thu Mar 26 00:03:37 2009 *** Failed to exec: Broken pipe
01:06 <zurd> mean
01:06 <zurd> luke-jr
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01:16 <luke-jr> it means u screwed up :D
01:17 <zurd> lol how so?
01:17 <luke-jr> might help u more if u weren't a spammer and I wasn't about to walk otu the door
01:17 <luke-jr> pretty sure I already explained to nsh22 where u guys screwed up ☺
01:17 <zurd> >.<
01:17 <zurd> he told me to bug you about it
01:18 <zurd> how do i fix it?
01:18 <luke-jr> if you guys keep needing me to not only help, but repeat myself over and over, you're going to need to get managed hosting -.-
01:19 <luke-jr> the problem is that someone misspelled --enable-hosting and put 0.2.8.2.1 for the version on the host2 thing
01:19 <luke-jr> that should be enough to figure out the problem ☺
01:19 <luke-jr> back in a bit
01:19  * luke-jr runs off before his wife kills him
01:19 <zurd> =\
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01:35 <mib_v91obr> .fetch http://☃.com/
01:35 <tronner> mib_v91obr: Unknown host.
01:35 <mib_v91obr> wot?
01:35 <smoothice> Can I help you?
01:35 -!- mib_v91obr is now known as ivantis2
01:35 <ivantis2> i needed to test something
01:35 <smoothice> lol...
01:36 <ivantis2> .fetch http://å.com/
01:36 <tronner> ivantis2: Unknown host.
01:36 <ivantis2> ...
01:36 <ivantis2> .echo å
01:36 <tronner> å
01:36 <ivantis2> ok i guess tronner doesnt work with those unicode domains
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01:37 <smoothice> .fetch ➡.com
01:37 <smoothice> .fetch http://➡.ws
01:37 <tronner> smoothice: Unknown host.
01:37 <smoothice> guess not
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03:13 <Rajinn> ct|kyle can you help me add auth to be used on my forums?  I added the script to manually create users reading this; http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Authentication_Server
03:13 <Rajinn> but, i want it to read from my mySQL database so i dont have to create all these names
03:20 <luke-jr> ivantis2: stfu
03:21 <ct|kyle> Rajinn: that is a question for epsy, I have yet to set it up, P4 did ours with epsy's help
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03:29 <Lizmatic> luke-jr has a wife?!?!?!
03:29 <luke-jr> no crap
03:30 <ct|kyle> Lizmatic: he pays some fat chick to claim to be his wife
03:30 <Lizmatic> haha
03:31  * sinewav wishes he had money to buy a wife.
03:32 <ct|kyle> sinewav: get some of that stimulus package
03:32 -!- Corinne-Jr [n=cora-jr@ip70-187-26-118.om.om.cox.net] has joined #armagetron
03:32 <sinewav> oh yeah... I need a governement job or somethin'.
03:33 <Corinne-Jr> ct|kyle: I'm not fat, just mildly preggo
03:34 <sinewav> lol
03:34 <Lizmatic> aren't those russian broads like 5 bucks?
03:34 <luke-jr> Lizmatic: plus shipping, I imagine
03:34 <Corinne-Jr> I ain't Russian either.
03:34 <sinewav> The cute ones that play tennis are more expensive
03:35 <Lizmatic> Both the JRs being on IRC....PHIIAALLL!
03:35 <luke-jr> that's Dashjr, retard
03:35 <luke-jr> and you mean "two of"
03:35 <luke-jr> as opposed to "all five of"
03:36 <Lizmatic> five?
03:36 <Corinne-Jr> Luke, me, C., D., and our unborn
03:36 <Lizmatic> C,D..unborn will be named E?
03:36 <Corinne-Jr> yes
03:36 <luke-jr> how'd you guess⁈
03:36 <Lizmatic> hihihi oh you guys
03:36  * luke-jr closes his curtains.
03:37  * luke-jr mutters about snoops.
03:38 <Corinne-Jr> . . .
03:38 <luke-jr> …
03:39 <luke-jr> ☺
03:39 -!- Vanhayes_ is now known as Vanhayes
03:39 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: are you screwing up ljrbot again? -.-
03:39 <Vanhayes> not that i know of
03:39 <Vanhayes> ]ping
03:39 <ljrbot> pong
03:39 <Vanhayes> ]pong
03:39 <ljrbot> Vanhayes: Error: "pong" is not a valid command.
03:39 <Vanhayes> ]screw
03:39 <luke-jr> fail
03:39 <ljrbot> Vanhayes: Error: "screw" is not a valid command.
03:40 <Vanhayes> ]liast
03:40 <ljrbot> Vanhayes: Error: "liast" is not a valid command.
03:40 <Vanhayes> ]list
03:40 <ljrbot> Vanhayes: Admin, Alias, Bible, Channel, Config, Format, Games, Karma, Later, Math, Misc, Network, Owner, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Status, Stock, User, Utilities, Weather, Web, and Yandere
03:40 <Vanhayes> ]list alias
03:40 <ljrbot> Vanhayes: roulette, /me, 8ball, a, aawiki, abstain, abstains, action, add, aka, armaconfig, ban, blame, bzr, check, cheer, die, die, ding, fake, faustov, femalesheep, findyandereplayers, fist, flush, fuck, get, gishslap, give, h, hi, hui, hurry, iamnotaretard, iamretard, inf, insult, is, itsalie, jimp, kickban, kicks, kill, lag, lastseen, lbargue, lick, lickban, lock, logs, loli, lolly, make, (2 more messages)
03:40 <Vanhayes> ]list karma
03:40 <luke-jr> O.o
03:40 <ljrbot> Vanhayes: clear, dump, karma, load, and most
03:40 <Vanhayes> ]karma
03:40 <ljrbot> Vanhayes: Highest karma: "c" (4), "yacc is to bison what C is to C" (1), and "actually c" (1).  Lowest karma: "armagetronad:  ----------------------------------------------------------------------" (-44), "armagetronad:  ----------------------------------------------------------" (-6), and "!loli Ratchet" (-3).
03:40 <luke-jr> o.O;;
03:40 <Vanhayes> that makes no sense whatsoever to me
03:41 <luke-jr> ]lolly
03:41 <ljrbot> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWYmEICNgOQ
03:41 <Vanhayes> no
03:41 <luke-jr> yes
03:41 <luke-jr> you know you want to
03:41 <Vanhayes> i really dont
03:41 <luke-jr> you know you do
03:41 <Corinne-Jr> g'night
03:41 <luke-jr> -.-
03:41 <Vanhayes> ]iamnotaretard
03:41 <sinewav> nice. schoolhouse rock.
03:41 <ljrbot> ateabotb cBabyBugd eljrbotf gP4h iljrbotj ktronnerl mct|kylen oljrbotp qwrtlprnftr
03:42 <luke-jr> Corinne-Jr: you're going to let ct|kyle get away w/ calling you fat?
03:42 <luke-jr> ]help iamnotaretard
03:42 <ljrbot> luke-jr: (iamnotaretard <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo a${randomNick}b c${randomNick}d e${randomNick}f g${randomNick}h i${randomNick}j k${randomNick}l m${randomNick}n o${randomNick}p q${randomNick}r".
03:42 <luke-jr> wtf is that
03:42 <Corinne-Jr> [21:33] <Corinne-Jr> ct|kyle: I'm not fat, just mildly preggo
03:42 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: you're supposed to like slice his head off or something
03:43 <luke-jr> err
03:43 <luke-jr> Corinne-Jr*
03:43 <ct|kyle> lol
03:43 <Vanhayes> ]yandere
03:43 <ljrbot> A yandere game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "]yandere" to join.
03:43 <luke-jr> …
03:43 <ct|kyle> ]y end
03:43 <luke-jr> ]y
03:43 <ljrbot> The yandere game game has been forced to end.
03:43 <ljrbot> A yandere game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "]yandere" to join.
03:43 <ct|kyle> ]yend
03:43 <ljrbot> ct|kyle: Error: "yend" is not a valid command.
03:44 <luke-jr> ]admin ignore add ct|kyle
03:44 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
03:44 <ct|kyle> ]y end
03:44 <Vanhayes> yend_ to yen?
03:44 <ct|kyle> worth a try :P
03:44 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: you need to rejoin
03:44 <Vanhayes> ]yandere
03:44 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
03:44 <luke-jr> sinewav:
03:44 <luke-jr> Lizmatic:
03:44 <luke-jr> ivantis2:
03:44 <luke-jr> ]ye
03:44 <Vanhayes> ]fuvk
03:44 <ljrbot> Added another waiting extension.
03:44 <ljrbot> Vanhayes: Error: "fuvk" is not a valid command.
03:45 <Vanhayes> ]fuck
03:45 <ljrbot> Vanhayes: *click*
03:45 <Vanhayes> ]fake
03:45 <ljrbot> no more fakes
03:45 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
03:45 <ct|kyle> .r
03:45 <tronner> ct|kyle: *clcki*
03:46 <luke-jr> ]ye
03:46 <ljrbot> Added another waiting extension.
03:46 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
03:46 <luke-jr> ]ye
03:46 <ljrbot> Added another waiting extension.
03:47 <ct|kyle> .echo "]y end"
03:47 <tronner> ]y end
03:47 <ljrbot> The yandere game game has been forced to end.
03:47 <Vanhayes> ha
03:47 <Vanhayes> well done
03:48 <Vanhayes> .echo ]yandere
03:48 <Vanhayes> .echo "]yandere"
03:48 <tronner> ]yandere
03:48 <ljrbot> A yandere game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "]yandere" to join.
03:48 <Vanhayes> ha
03:49 <luke-jr> -.-
03:49 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
03:50 <ivantis2> if this were the kind of channel where people ask for help and there are active ops, you wouldve been kicked already
03:50 <ljrbot> There aren't enough players to start a yandere game. Try again later.
03:51 <Vanhayes> me?
03:51 <luke-jr> ivantis2: play?
03:51 <ivantis2> im doing homework
03:51 <ivantis2> but sure
03:51 <ivantis2> ]y
03:51 <luke-jr> ]admin ignore add tronner
03:51 <ljrbot> A yandere game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "]yandere" to join.
03:51 <luke-jr> ]y
03:51 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
03:51 <Vanhayes> ]y
03:52 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
03:52 <luke-jr> where do we get #4?
03:53 <ljrbot> There aren't enough players to start a yandere game. Try again later.
03:57 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: go play on #bible
03:59 <Vanhayes> is there an actual channel for that?
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03:59 <ivantis2> yeah and they all want to play yandere
03:59 <ct|kyle> Vanhayes: I don't know LOL
03:59 <ivantis2> now we have 5 people, lets play
03:59 <ivantis2> ]y
03:59 <ljrbot> A yandere game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "]yandere" to join.
04:00 <luke-jr> ]y
04:00 <Vanhayes> nah it isnt a real channel, at least not on freenode
04:00 <Vanhayes> ]y
04:00 <luke-jr> ivantis2: how do you count 5?
04:00 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
04:01 <ivantis2> kyle, you, me, Vanhayes, smoothice
04:01 <luke-jr> we have enough people if you two join #anime
04:01 <luke-jr> smoothice and kyle are game poopers
04:01 <Vanhayes> i dont think i want to be in there
04:01 <luke-jr> …
04:01 <ljrbot> There aren't enough players to start a yandere game. Try again later.
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04:02 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: you'll miss this round
04:02 <Vanhayes> meh
04:03 <ct|kyle> I wonder what extra charges luke-jr will have this month on his wife rental bill
04:03 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: she'll probably insist on sex twice tonight
04:03 <ct|kyle> o0 smoothice and smoothice_
04:03 <ct|kyle> that means no freeciv
04:04 <Vanhayes> which is the real one and which the evil twin
04:04 <Vanhayes> luke-jr, who is playing this game right now?
04:04 <luke-jr> [22:04:19] <ljrbot> Current players: luke-jr, aeromax, ivantis2, and vanhayes.
04:05 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: ivantis2 is voting to lynch you
04:05 <Vanhayes> where is this happening?
04:06 <luke-jr> #anime
04:07 <Vanhayes> ]v ivantis2
04:07 <smoothice_> oh hi ct|kyle
04:07 <ljrbot> Vanhayes: Error: "v" is not a valid command.
04:07 <Vanhayes> ]vote ivantis2
04:07 <ljrbot> Vanhayes: There's no game here.
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04:10 <smoothice_> anyone have ChanServ admin?
04:10 <BabyBug> define chanserv admin
04:11 <smoothice_> the able to op themselves via ChanServ on #armagetron
04:11 <smoothice_> to kick my ghost
04:11 <smoothice_> It's stuck
04:11 <luke-jr> smoothice_: that would be pointless
04:11 <luke-jr> smoothice_: ghost it
04:11 <ivantis2> ghost it, fool
04:11 <smoothice_> ?
04:11 <smoothice_> ...
04:11 <ivantis2> /msg nickserv help ghost
04:11 <luke-jr> even if we kicked it, it'd still be connected
04:11 <BabyBug> /nickserv ghost smoothice password
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04:11 <smoothice_> thanks!
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04:12 <ivantis2> bed
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04:13 <smoothice> luke-jr: who the heck is corinne-jr
04:13 <ct|kyle> Corinne-Jr is the result of me making fun of luke-jr
04:13 <smoothice> LOL
04:14 <luke-jr> smoothice: my wife
04:14 <luke-jr> she went to bed
04:14 <BabyBug> why is your wife in bed and you're not? :s
04:14 <ct|kyle> s|wife|rental wife
04:14 <smoothice> luke-jr: O_o
04:15 <luke-jr> BabyBug: she goes to bed earlier than I
04:15 <BabyBug> ...
04:15 <BabyBug> sort out your priorities!
04:15 <smoothice> lol
04:15 <smoothice> yeah really luke-jr
04:16 <smoothice> gosh
04:16 <smoothice> ...
04:16 <ct|kyle> IRC twg is much more important you know
04:16 <BabyBug> only post twats say gosh
04:16 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, maybe to you, you virgin
04:16 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: no not to me
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04:19 <smoothice> BabyBug: dude
04:19 <smoothice> who are you
04:19 <smoothice> Wtf are you
04:20 <smoothice> What do you do here
04:20 <smoothice> Yes, I just asked those three questions
04:20 <BabyBug> wtf... Is that "what the fuck" or "who the fuck"?
04:20 <smoothice> What
04:21 <BabyBug> 1) I'm babybug... 2) I'm a slut/bitch ... 3) I demand and complain like a whore
04:21 <smoothice> and
04:21 <BabyBug> I would of though that's all obvious by now
04:21 <smoothice> F does not stand for f***
04:21 <BabyBug> oh sorry, i forgot you're too young for expletives
04:22 <BabyBug> my bad
04:22 <Lucifer> she's not a slut/bitch, she's a fat old hairy man pretending to be an internet lesbian
04:22 <BabyBug> thanks luci :P
04:22  * ct|kyle hates my physics teacher
04:22 <smoothice> who gives a crap
04:23 <smoothice> ?
04:23 <smoothice> lol
04:23 <Lucifer> smoothice: are you planning on spewing shit everywhere, or talking, or shutting up?
04:23 <smoothice> spewing shit everywhere
04:23 <smoothice> go ahead
04:23 <smoothice> kick my a**
04:23 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o Lucifer] by ChanServ
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04:23 <@Lucifer> :)
04:23 <ct|kyle> lol
04:23 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o Lucifer] by ChanServ
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04:24 <smoothice> ...
04:24 <BabyBug> /chanserv op #armgetron BabyBug
04:24 <Lucifer> hey, honesty is worth something around here
04:24  * BabyBug pokes Lucifer 
04:24 <BabyBug> *rolls eyes*
04:25 <Lucifer> [22:22] [Invite] You invited smoothice to channel #armagetron.
04:25 <smoothice> I know
04:25 <smoothice> I was surprised too
04:25 <Lucifer> yeah, but they don't  ;)
04:25 <BabyBug> Lucifer, you're gonna lose your reputation ;)
04:26 <Lucifer> so, on a scale of 1 to 10, how predictable was that?
04:26 <Lucifer> 1 being "even the dog knew you would do that"
04:26 <smoothice> 10
04:26 <smoothice> 1
04:27  * Lucifer rather thinks his reputation of being a crazy, stuck up, shit-eating mutherfucker is not in danger at all
04:27 <BabyBug> Lucifer, you don't have that reputation...
04:27 <Lucifer> do too
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04:27 <Lucifer> oh, I forgot self-important
04:27 <BabyBug> do not
04:28 <smoothice> What does BabyBug do around here
04:28 <smoothice> crap around in IRC and be a noob tron player?
04:28 <BabyBug> "I demand and complain like a whore"
04:28 <Lucifer> yeah, this would be the place for that, wouldn't it?
04:28 <Lucifer> akira_arma: noob
04:28 <Lucifer> armabuilder: noob
04:28 <Lucifer> BabyBug: noob
04:28 <Lucifer> Corinne-Jr: noob
04:28 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: noob
04:28 <smoothice> LOL
04:29 <Lucifer> fonkay: noob
04:29 <Lucifer> er, I'm bored with that now
04:29 <smoothice> GodTodd: noob
04:29 <Lucifer> where's armabot when you want to spam?
04:29 <smoothice> guru3: noob
04:29 <smoothice> ivantis2: noob
04:29 <smoothice> Lizmatic: noob
04:29 <smoothice> ljrbot: noob
04:29 <smoothice> Lucifer: noob
04:29 -!- ivantis2 [n=ivantis@63-245-159-78.kitusa.com] has quit [Client Quit]
04:29 <smoothice> luke-jr: noob
04:29 <smoothice> mkzelda: noob
04:29 <Lucifer> I guess ivantis2 didn't like being called a noob
04:29 <smoothice> noob13: noob
04:29 <smoothice> Novocaine: noob
04:29 <smoothice> P4: noob
04:29 <smoothice> sinewav: noob
04:29 <smoothice> StickyNoob: noob
04:29 <luke-jr> Lucifer: kick?
04:29 <sinewav> ?
04:29 <smoothice> teabot: noob
04:30 <smoothice> The_Master: noob
04:30 <The_Master> smoothice: Are you really a " smoothice"?
04:30 <smoothice> tronner: noob
04:30 <smoothice> Ttech: noob
04:30 <mkzelda> sweet as silk
04:30 <Lucifer> luke-jr: why?  I started it
04:30 <smoothice> Ttech[daedalus]: noob
04:30 <smoothice> Unnamed-20821A8: noob
04:30 <smoothice> Vanhayes: noob
04:30 <smoothice> wrltprnft: noob
04:30 <smoothice> DONE!
04:30 <smoothice> :D
04:30 <BabyBug> Lucifer, There's such a thing as taking things too far
04:30 <Vanhayes> you a noob
04:30 <Lucifer> he skipped himself
04:30 <mkzelda> omg its really important the santicty of this channel must be preserved
04:31 <luke-jr> Lucifer: double standards
04:31 <Lucifer> I stopped before I reached myself!
04:31 <smoothice> lol...
04:31 <Lucifer> Lucifer: YOU'RE A FUCKING NOOB-ASS RETARD SHIT COCK DIRT SAND GRAVEL
04:31 <smoothice> wtf?
04:31 <ct|kyle> smoothice: noob
04:31 <smoothice> Lucifer: noob
04:31 <luke-jr> smoothice: noob
04:31 <smoothice> k
04:31 <smoothice> I've got my share of noobness now
04:31 <luke-jr> have not
04:31 <smoothice> Continue on...
04:31 <smoothice> lol
04:31 <smoothice> have so
04:31 <mkzelda> smoothice: im rubber and you're glue so it bounces off me and sticks to you
04:32 <smoothice> ?
04:32 <luke-jr> :O
04:32 <luke-jr> wait
04:32 <smoothice> Unknown command: im.
04:32 <luke-jr> is mkzelda the guy someone was in here looking for?
04:32 <luke-jr> or was it someone else
04:32 <mkzelda> no i was the one looking for flea
04:32 <Lucifer> no, mkzelda is the guy who was doing the looking
04:32 <luke-jr> mkzelda: o right
04:32 <smoothice> mkzelda: Unknown command im rubber and you're glue so it bounces off me and sticks to you
04:32 <Lucifer> he was looking for his fellow double-penetration guy
04:32 <BabyBug> mkzelda is a guy?
04:32 <luke-jr> ..
04:32 <Lucifer> BabyBug: yeah, he's just this guy, you know?
04:32 <mkzelda> :)
04:32 <ct|kyle> .rape BabyBug
04:32 <tronner> ct|kyle: The operation succeeded.
04:33 <BabyBug> The name sounds feminine
04:33 <Lucifer> only in crazy made-up languages
04:33 -!- smoothice is now known as OldBug
04:33 <OldBug> LOL!
04:33 <Lucifer> in Texican, mkzelda means "Man with fat huevos and fatter wife"
04:33 <OldBug> wow LOL
04:33 <mkzelda> BabyBug: i dont assume you're infantile, mainly cause you're typing but still
04:33 <Vanhayes> OldBug, what does the f in wtf stand for if not fuck?
04:33 <OldBug> frick
04:33 <Lucifer> mkzelda: she also spells words correctly, mind you
04:34 -!- OldBug is now known as smoothice
04:34 <mkzelda> i dont try
04:34 <Lucifer> Vanhayes: fancella?
04:34 <BabyBug> lol Lucifer =)
04:34 <smoothice> Vanhayes: means frick
04:34 <mkzelda> too hard at least
04:34 <Vanhayes> what is a frick
04:34 <mkzelda> its a euphamism for fuck
04:34 <smoothice> a word you say to emphasize an issue
04:34 <Vanhayes> fucking prick?
04:34 <Lucifer> hey, people who spell words correctly in irc, even if they're not trying hard, rate much higher than people who abbreviate "good" to "gud"
04:34 <smoothice> Oh FRICK
04:34 <mkzelda> that is true
04:34 <Lucifer> smoothice: would you frick my cick?
04:35 <ct|kyle> gud 2 C U All
04:35 <Vanhayes> lolz I is gud at typoring
04:35 <ct|kyle> :P
04:35 <Lucifer> frick you ct|kyle (hi there!) !
04:35 <ct|kyle> hi there Lucifer
04:35 <smoothice> Lucifer: Do you go to DICK's Sporting Goods a lot
04:35 <Vanhayes> frick sounds like something ned flanders would say
04:35 <smoothice> Lucifer: where DICKS get their sporting goods?
04:35 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: fsck
04:35 <Lucifer> smoothice: only if they frick me
04:35 <BabyBug> smoothice, is that code for sex toys?
04:35 <luke-jr> FileSystem ChecK
04:35 <smoothice> BabyBug: no
04:36 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: vote already!
04:36 <smoothice> BabyBug: There's aactually a store here called dick's sporting goods
04:36 <Vanhayes> for what?
04:36 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: for ivantis2
04:36 <Vanhayes> it wont let me vote here
04:36 <BabyBug> Well then the Owner is called Richard?
04:36 <Vanhayes> ]y end
04:36 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: so go there
04:36 <ljrbot> Vanhayes: There's no game here.
04:36 <Lucifer> I go to Academy Sports and Outdoors, the right stuff the right frick
04:36 <luke-jr> ]y start theme=twg visible-roels
04:36 <luke-jr> ]y end
04:36 <ljrbot> I don't recognize "visible-roels" as a mode.
04:36 <Lucifer> smoothice: I fricked your momma
04:36 <luke-jr> ]y start theme=twg visible-roles
04:37 <Lucifer> that's why she's smalla'
04:37 <ljrbot> luke-jr: There's no game here.
04:37 <Vanhayes> Dickies makes good work wear
04:37 <ljrbot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "]yandere" to join.
04:37 <smoothice> ]FAIL
04:37 <smoothice> ]SCREW
04:37 <Vanhayes> I love my Dickies
04:37 <Lucifer> I made her hollah
04:37 <smoothice> ]SCREW UR A**
04:37 <Lucifer> just like your fatha'
04:37 <smoothice> Lucifer: -.-
04:37 <smoothice> Lucifer: are you as uneducated as you seem?
04:37 <Lucifer> totally
04:37 <Lucifer> I'm a Texan, don't forget
04:37 <smoothice> Are the power of words deceiving me?
04:37 <luke-jr> that coming from smoothice!
04:37 <smoothice> ...
04:37 <Vanhayes> dont you teach in a college?
04:37 <ct|kyle> .echo "]bible search gud 2 c"
04:37 <tronner> ]bible search gud 2 c
04:37 <Lucifer> no, I just work in the physics lab
04:37 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
04:38 <luke-jr> TWG ppl!
04:38 <smoothice> TWG = Fail
04:38 <smoothice> failblog.org
04:38 <luke-jr> smoothice = fail
04:38 <Lucifer> I've only got an AS in engineering, I need a MS to teach physics
04:38 <smoothice> luke-jr: Epic fail
04:38 <luke-jr> ]ye
04:38 <ljrbot> Added another waiting extension.
04:38 <Vanhayes> smoothice, are you really ned flanders?
04:38 <ct|kyle> @echo "]y end"
04:38 <teabot> ]y end
04:38 <BabyBug> ]y end
04:38 <Lucifer> Vanhayes: ned flanders wouldn't say frick, would he?
04:38 <ljrbot> The Worm Game game has been forced to end.
04:38 <Lucifer> unless he was asking for something from his wife
04:38 <smoothice> ]yandere !!!!
04:39 <smoothice> ]yandere
04:39 <Vanhayes> no, i suppose thats alittle too racey for ned
04:39 <smoothice> ]y end
04:39 <luke-jr> …
04:39 <ct|kyle> ljrbot is slow
04:39 <luke-jr> or smoothice is ignored
04:39 <luke-jr> ]y start theme=twg visible-roles
04:39 <ljrbot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "]yandere" to join.
04:39 <smoothice> ..
04:39 <smoothice> @echo "]y end"
04:39 <BabyBug> ]y end
04:39 <ljrbot> The Worm Game game has been forced to end.
04:39 <luke-jr> ]admin ignore add BabyBug
04:39 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
04:39 <Vanhayes> ct|kyle, it is ignoring teabot now
04:39 <luke-jr> ]y start theme=twg visible-roles
04:39 <Lucifer> will I get to frick smoothice if I join the game?
04:39 <ljrbot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "]yandere" to join.
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04:39 <luke-jr> Lucifer: probably
04:39 <ct|kyle> Vanhayes: that was not me
04:39 <Lucifer> see?  who needs to kick?
04:39 <luke-jr> LOL
04:39 <Lucifer> when you want to run someone off, do it right
04:39 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: it ignores *bot ☺
04:40 <ct|kyle> s
04:40 <Vanhayes> racist
04:40 <ct|kyle> s|you|u|
04:40 <Lucifer> Vanhayes: skynet was founded on letting the bots speak to each other
04:40 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
04:40 <Vanhayes> hmm can you be racist against machines yet?
04:40 <BabyBug> The_Master, echo "]y end"
04:40 <The_Master> BabyBug: We have never talked about it before.
04:40 <luke-jr> LOL
04:40 <BabyBug> :(
04:40 <BabyBug> i fail
04:41 <Lucifer> machines aren't alive until they can reproduce without BabyBug's assistance
04:41 <luke-jr> ]ye
04:41 <ljrbot> Added another waiting extension.
04:41 <Vanhayes> i say let sky net happen, how bad could it be?
04:41 <BabyBug> Lucifer, i don't get it...
04:41 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
04:41 <Lucifer> Vanhayes: 90% of the world can die, and Arnold Schwartzenegger would be a good guy
04:41 <Vanhayes> you fuck machines is what he is trying to say i think
04:41 <Lucifer> BabyBug: you haven't seen the Terminator, have you?
04:41 <luke-jr> ]ye
04:41 <ljrbot> Added another waiting extension.
04:42 <BabyBug> Vanhayes, that'd be because fucking machines are better than guys! :P
04:42 <Lucifer> *most guys
04:42 <BabyBug> all guys
04:42 <Vanhayes> hmm, well if arnie is a good guy, might not be worth it
04:42 <Vanhayes> plus the 90% thing
04:42 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
04:42 <Vanhayes> thats bad too
04:42 <BabyBug> sorry Lucifer...No guy is better than a sybian :P
04:42 <Lucifer> er, who do you think they modeled the sybian after?
04:42 <Lucifer> they needed my engrams to make it work
04:43 <BabyBug> You're probably getting the sybian confused with the venus ;)
04:43 <ljrbot> There aren't enough players to start the Worm Game. Try again later.
04:43 <Lucifer> unlikely, since I don't know what the fuck the venus is
04:43 <luke-jr> Lucifer: let me know when it's later
04:44 <Vanhayes> its a razor
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04:44 <BabyBug> Lucifer, it's a sex toy for men, by the same people who made the sybian :P
04:44 <Lucifer> the sybian looks best with a fat chick on it
04:44 <Vanhayes> jiggily
04:44 <BabyBug> Lucifer, No
04:44 <BabyBug> It looks best with a blonde chick on it and her gf squeezing her boobs
04:44 <Lucifer> oh yeah, because the vibrations send these awesome ripples up her
04:45 <BabyBug> gf*
04:45 <Rajinn> alrighty then, i walked in at the right time
04:45 <Rajinn> lets all have a massive ORGY!
04:45 <Lucifer> if you have a thing for wave theory, you want a fat chick, for real
04:45 <Vanhayes> probably a fetish for that out there some where
04:45 <Lucifer> if sines and cosines are your thing, you want to see her belly swing
04:46 <Rajinn> hahahaha
04:46 <Rajinn> ct|kyle, oi!
04:46 <Vanhayes> brb
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04:46 <Lucifer> actually, it's possible babybug and I just set a record for maximum length of conversation before it turned to sex
04:47 <BabyBug> lol =.=
04:47 <luke-jr> ]y start theme=twg visible-roles
04:47 <ljrbot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "]yandere" to join.
04:47 <Lucifer> wait, Rajinn's here to ask about log files
04:47 <ct|kyle> lol Rajinn: oi
04:47 <luke-jr> he is?
04:48 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
04:48 <luke-jr> Lucifer: civ?
04:48 <Lucifer> hmmm, rajinn is "one sexy ass beast"
04:48 <Lucifer> but what the FUCK is an "ass beast"?
04:48 <Rajinn> hahaha
04:48 <Rajinn> Luci is sooo funny
04:49 <BabyBug> it's a shame he's old
04:49  * Lucifer should probably leave, he's over 24 hours without sleep
04:49 <Rajinn> i agree
04:49 <ljrbot> There aren't enough players to start the Worm Game. Try again later.
04:49 <Rajinn> gnight luci baby :)
04:49 <Rajinn> ass beast
04:49 <Rajinn> :P
04:49 <Lucifer> BabyBug: the problem isn't that I'm so old, it's that you're such a noob
04:50 <BabyBug> Lucifer, now i know you're just jealous cause i'm too young for you =P
04:50 <Rajinn> hahaha
04:50 <Lucifer> nope, I finally joined a clan
04:50 <luke-jr> wtf
04:50 <luke-jr> no wai
04:50 <Lucifer> it's called "NO FUCKING NOOBS ALLOWED EVER"
04:50 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: I don't think anyone is too young for him LOL
04:50 <BabyBug> did you just call him a pedo?
04:50 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: this is Texas, anyone under 18 that's not a cousin is too young
04:51 <luke-jr> LOL
04:51 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: that did not stop you before :P
04:51 <BabyBug> Is Texas the UK version of Norfolk?
04:51 <Lucifer> that was when I was 20
04:51 <Lucifer> IT WAS A LONG TIME AGO!
04:52 <Lucifer> BabyBug: no, Texas isn't the UK version of anything
04:52 <Lucifer> probably more like Scotland or Wales, though
04:52 <BabyBug> ...
04:52 <BabyBug> no where's like Wales
04:52 <BabyBug> so must be Scotland
04:52 <Rajinn> MAX_PING_TO_THE_BACK_OF_THE_BUS_DAMN_NIGGERS
04:53 <Lucifer> actually, you've got the relationship backwards
04:53 <Rajinn> luci you have such a temper
04:53 <Lucifer> every country has a province or state that is just like Texas
04:53 <Lucifer> Canada has Quebec
04:53 <Lucifer> Spain has Basque
04:53 <Lucifer> and the UK has everything except England
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04:53 <Rajinn> wb Vanhayes
04:53 <Vanhayes> ty
04:54 <BabyBug> Lucifer, Wales, Scotland and Ireland arn't provinces :P
04:54 <Lucifer> no, they're states :)
04:54 <Vanhayes> part of ireland is isnt it?
04:54 <BabyBug> Lucifer, no, They're countries
04:54 <Lucifer> what do you think a state is, anyway?
04:55 <BabyBug> A county?
04:55 <Lucifer> back in the original US, each state ran it's own foreign policy even
04:55 <Lucifer> no, states have counties inside them
04:55 <Lucifer> for example, I live in the state of Texas, Williamson County
04:56 <Lucifer> but when all the states in north america from Maine down to...that penis-shaped thing, decided to unite, they surrendered some responsibilities to the federal government
04:56 <Vanhayes> wales is part of the uk right?
04:56 <Lucifer> I suspect that if you look at it, you'll find the UK has those same responsibilities for Northern Ireland, Scotland, and Wales
04:56 <BabyBug> Lucifer, Wales is the country. Powys is the state. montgomeryshire is the county here.
04:57 <Lucifer> but since Powys can't be pronounced, it doesn't count
04:57 <Lucifer> .dict state
04:57 <tronner> Lucifer: foldoc, gcide, wn, jargon, bouvier, and moby-thes responded: gcide: State \State\, n. A statement; also, a document containing a statement. [R.] --Sir W. Scott. [1913 Webster]; gcide: State \State\ (st[=a]t), a. 1. Stately. [Obs.] --Spenser. [1913 Webster] 2. Belonging to the state, or body politic; public. [1913 Webster]; gcide: Argillaceous \Ar`gil*la"ceous\, a. [L. argillaceus, fr. (49 more messages)
04:57 <BabyBug> ahaha
04:57 <BabyBug> you fail
04:57 <Lucifer> you did see 49 more messages, right?
04:57 <Lucifer> .more
04:57 <tronner> Lucifer: argilla.] Of the nature of clay; consisting of, or containing, argil or clay; clayey. [1913 Webster] {Argillaceous sandstone} (Geol.), a sandstone containing much clay. {Argillaceous iron ore}, the clay ironstone. {Argillaceous schist} or {state}. See {Argillite}. [1913 Webster]; gcide: State \State\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. {Stated}; p. pr. & vb. n. {Stating}.] 1. To set; to settle; to establish. [R.] [1913 (48 more messages)
04:57 <Lucifer> .more
04:57 <tronner> Lucifer: Webster] I myself, though meanest stated, And in court now almost hated. --Wither. [1913 Webster] Who calls the council, states the certain day. --Pope. [1913 Webster] 2. To express the particulars of; to set down in detail or in gross; to represent fully in words; to narrate; to recite; as, to state the facts of a case, one's opinion, etc. [1913 Webster] {To state it}. To assume state or dignity. [Obs.] (47 more messages)
04:58 <Lucifer> this is going to take forever
04:58 <Lucifer> .more
04:58 <tronner> Lucifer: "Rarely dressed up, and taught to state it." --Beau. & Fl. [1913 Webster]; jargon: state n. 1. Condition, situation. "What's the state of your latest hack?" "It's winning away." "The system tried to read and write the disk simultaneously and got into a totally {wedged} state." The standard question "What's your state?" means "What are you doing?" or "What are you about to do?" Typical answers are "about (46 more messages)
04:58 <BabyBug> listen ok, Wales is a fucking country. Why are you debating that?
04:58 <Lucifer> hmm, tronner doesn't google, does he?
04:58 <Lucifer> because states are countries :)
04:58 <Lucifer> and sometimes they're not
04:58 <BabyBug> They're fucking not
04:58 <BabyBug> States don;'t have they're own national anthem
04:58 <Lucifer> "state" is a pretty specific word that's surprisingly ambiguous
04:58 <BabyBug> You don't have your own flag
04:58 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: yes he does
04:58 <BabyBug> you don't have your own language
04:59 <Lucifer> hey, we speak Cowboy here
04:59 <BabyBug> now stfu you cunt. Wales is a fucking country
04:59 <ct|kyle> s|he|she
04:59 <Lucifer> Texas has it's own flag, and it's own anthem
04:59 <Lucifer> it is, in fact, the only united state that is allowed to fly its flag even with the US flag
04:59 <Lucifer> you wouldn't happen to know why that is, would you?
05:00 <Vanhayes> the alamo?
05:00 <Lucifer> Vanhayes: the alamo was part of it
05:00 <Vanhayes> ha, just threw that out there
05:00 <Lucifer> Texas revolted against Mexico, declared its independence, and was a republic for a decade or so before the US annexed it
05:01 <Lucifer> the massacre at the alamo was part of the Texan war for independence
05:01 <Rajinn> btw lucifer, after looking over chatlog.txt how-to's the IP and stuff is not included already to go into that file, and there are no such commands for it
05:01 <Lucifer> Rajinn: didn't I say to look in the server config files for the docs?
05:01 <Rajinn> oh BROTHER
05:01 <Lucifer> why would the docs be in the log files?
05:02 <Lucifer> that's a weird place to put docs
05:02 <Rajinn> lalala
05:02 <Lucifer> anyway, you could go to your server console and type "IP" and see a list of potential suspects :)
05:02 <Rajinn> lol
05:03 <ct|kyle> .cfg2 IP
05:03 <tronner> ct|kyle: ACCESS_LEVEL_IPS: Minimal access level you need for seeing IPs of other players in the /players command.(Default: 2 ) || ALLOW_ENEMIES_SAME_IP: If set to 1, this allows two players that apparently come from the same machine to fight for points with each other.(Default: 0 ) || BAN_IP: Bans the spedified IP address from the server for a variable time. || BUG_RIP: Allows the rim wall to be ripped open by (4 more messages)
05:03 <Lucifer> .more ct|kyle
05:03 <tronner> Lucifer: a VERY close grind.(Default: 0 ) || CAMERA_VISIBILITY_CLIP_SPEED: Speed with wich the visibility targets is brought into view(Default: 40 ) || CONSOLE_DECORATE_IP: Decorates every line of console output with the client IP(Default: 0 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_WAIT_FOR_EXTERNAL_SCRIPT: Write to ladderlog: WAIT_FOR_EXTERNAL_SCRIPT (see also: WAIT_FOR_EXTERNAL_SCRIPT and (3 more messages)
05:03 <Lucifer> there, CONSOLE_DECORATE_IP gets you your IP address
05:03 <Lucifer> now do a search for that in settings_dedicated.cfg to find out what other decorations you can use
05:03 <Lucifer> or
05:03 <Lucifer> .cfg2 decorate
05:03 <tronner> Lucifer: CONSOLE_DECORATE_ID: Decorates every line of console output with the client ID(Default: 1 ) || CONSOLE_DECORATE_IP: Decorates every line of console output with the client IP(Default: 0 ) || CONSOLE_DECORATE_TIMESTAMP: Decorates every line of console output with the current date and time(Default: 0 ) || LADDERLOG_DECORATE_TIMESTAMP: Decorates every line of ladderlog output with the current date and (1 more message)
05:03 <Lucifer> .more
05:03 <tronner> Lucifer: time(Default: 0 )
05:04 <Lucifer> aw, maybe that's it
05:04 <Lucifer> private messages should be there, and so should admin actions
05:04 <ct|kyle> it is a month or so outdated
05:04 <Lucifer> if they're not, that's a bug, imo, and you should put that on the bug tracker
05:04 <Lucifer> you know, so it'll get fixed for 0.2.8.3 :)
05:04 <Rajinn> yeah, it writes that info to the regular log file, and it does timestamp it in chatlog.txt, but no IP's :(
05:05 <Lucifer> you have to use CONSOLE_DECORATE_IP to get the IP put in
05:05 <Lucifer> also, you *are* talking about doing this on the server, right?
05:05 <Rajinn> CONSOLE_DECORATE_IP 1 is in my server_info.cfg file right now
05:05 <ct|kyle> that is right chat does not have IP, I had to use my array to write it when I was logging :)
05:06 <Lucifer> awww
05:06 <Lucifer> chat doesn't need IP
05:06 <ct|kyle> chatlog*
05:06 <Lucifer> just grep the username in the other file and you'll get it in a login message
05:06 <Lucifer> Rajinn: you have to restart the server, I believe
05:07 <ct|kyle> I just put it all in ladderlog and write it to the database :)
05:07 <Rajinn> no luci, that command has been in my server_info.cfg
05:07 <Rajinn> never put any IP's on the chatlog.txt, it only puts IP's on the regular log files in the logs directory
05:08 <Lucifer> [23:04] <Lucifer> chat doesn't need IP
05:08 <Lucifer> [23:05] <Lucifer> just grep the username in the other file and you'll get it in a login message
05:11 <Lucifer> hell, if you really want to, you can stick them both in a database and then do a join
05:11 <ct|kyle> ^^ that is what I do :P
05:12 <ct|kyle> or you can make a small hack to the source and get it too
05:12 <Lucifer> yeah, that information is probably available right there
05:12 <Lucifer> except it might get sent to the client, not sure ;)
05:13  * Lucifer really needs to sleep
05:13  * Lucifer is expecting to get the email tomorrow telling him he can start work
05:13  * Rajinn really is confused
05:13  * Rajinn is a n00b
05:13  * Rajinn is an ass beast
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05:13 <Lucifer> let's see, Tuesday I received the w9.  Today they received the w9 I sent.  So tomorrow they should put me in the system to start working, right?
05:14 <Rajinn> ]night
05:14 <ljrbot> Rajinn: Error: "night" is not a valid command.
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05:17 <Vanhayes> .night
05:17 <tronner> Good night Vanhayes!
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11:59 <joda_bot1> .
11:59 <joda_bot1> hmmm
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12:00 <pruWord> hi
12:00 <pruWord> someone here? :P
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12:02 <joda_bot> eh ?
12:03 <joda_bot> Can someone add a line to the topic:  Initial Response takes ~2min
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12:07 <joda_bot> nice response z-man, I guess we've got a response time of 3min until someone leaves instead of answering :-P
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15:08 <guru3> http://guru3.net/temp/coins.jpg
15:09 <joda_bot> yeah
15:09 <joda_bot> less than 1min pong :D
15:09 <guru3> 16 seconds
15:09 <joda_bot> ?!?!
15:10 <joda_bot> ah ok
15:10 <joda_bot> That's a live picture isn't it ?
15:10 <guru3> no
15:10 <guru3> that was taken 2 years ago
15:10 <joda_bot> because I got a darker JPG first
15:10 <guru3> or at least 1 year
15:10 <guru3> i just found it on my phone
15:10 <joda_bot> hm, perhaps some kind of data corruption :-P
15:11 <akira_arma> joda.bot: Did you update the winlibs repository?
15:11 <joda_bot> akira_arma: *hides*
15:11 <akira_arma> :(
15:11 <joda_bot> no, I did not have anytime so far
15:11 <joda_bot> I'll look into it on the weekend
15:11 <akira_arma> guru3: Do you have a zthreadlib.a by chance?
15:11 <joda_bot> send me PMs on saturday to remind me :-)
15:12  * joda_bot had a better idea, and adds a task to sunbird
15:12 <guru3> akira_arma: nope
15:12 <guru3> i dont do windows builds
15:12 <akira_arma> apparently no one does
15:13 <joda_bot> akira_arma: I'll make time for the winlibs on saturday
15:13 <guru3> i supervise other people doing builds
15:14 <akira_arma> well I am alomst through building but compiler keeps bugging about missing zthreadlibs.a at end
15:15 <joda_bot> akira_arma: nice, so you fixed the other missing lib ?
15:15 <akira_arma> yea it was in another directory
15:15 <akira_arma> but the other one is missing
15:16 <akira_arma> and since I have no clue about this stuff at all I can't do anything :D
15:17 <joda_bot> hm, ok, in how many places is zLib included ?
15:18 <joda_bot> you might just uncomment the lines, and set #define which disables Z_LIB_SUPPORT... as far as i know zlib support was optional
15:18 <joda_bot> I hope it still is
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15:20 <joda_bot> oha ... an IRC split ?
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15:21 <joda_bot> wb
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15:26 <akira_arma> define what?
15:26 <joda_bot> akira_arma: I'd have to look at the code, can't do that before 20:00 tonight which is still 4h away
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15:28 <akira_arma> what do I have to search for in the code?
15:28 <joda_bot> try to find something with zthread ?
15:29 <joda_bot> either a header file for it, which you can then look at where it is included, or a .cpp then you might have to find the responsible include at the top
15:29 <joda_bot> of the .cpp file
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15:30 <akira_arma> there is some in nAuthetication
15:31 <akira_arma> starting with #ifdef have_libzthread
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15:32 <akira_arma> yea only in that file
15:33 <akira_arma> how do i make it not include that?
15:33 <joda_bot> find the definde have_libzthread
15:34 <joda_bot> if it's not in one of the code files, just check the project options in code::blocks
15:34 <joda_bot> there must be a flag defining it there somewhere
15:35 <akira_arma> in linker settings
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15:35 <akira_arma> there is a link to that library
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15:36 <akira_arma> but no define
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15:38 <joda_bot> akira_arma: then try to just remove the link to the library
15:38 <joda_bot> let's see if that's the only dependencie
15:38 <joda_bot> on the compiler side, there should also be a HAVE_ZLIB define somewhere
15:38 <akira_arma> no its not
15:38 <akira_arma> tons of errors now :)
15:40 <akira_arma> http://rafb.net/p/2BgP6S10.html
15:40 <akira_arma> thats the head of that .cpp
15:40 <akira_arma> header*
15:40 <akira_arma> the relevant part
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15:42 <joda_bot> akira_arma: did you notice the ZThread.cbp ?
15:43 <joda_bot> there seems to be a Code::Blocks project in the win32/code_blocks/ folder to build ZThread
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15:43 <akira_arma> yup
15:43 <akira_arma> gotta do that i duess
15:43 <akira_arma> guess*
15:45 <akira_arma> ok i think i am getting there
15:45 <joda_bot> akira_arma: did you look at pthread-binding.h ?
15:45 <joda_bot> in src/tools/pthread-binding.h ?
15:46 <akira_arma> it built thats tupid library
15:46 <akira_arma> ;)
15:47 <joda_bot> it = I ?
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15:47 <joda_bot> or it = code::blocks file ?
15:48 <akira_arma> more errors
15:48 <akira_arma> now it misses: libprotobuf_debug.a
15:48 <akira_arma> :D
15:48 <akira_arma> arfgl
15:49 <akira_arma> ah nvm
15:49 <joda_bot> akira_arma: you might want to update the workspace to include the zthread project if that's not already the case
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15:50 <akira_arma> well i built it already
15:50 <smoothice> luke-jr: damnit are you here?
15:51 <akira_arma> now i have an armagetron_master.exe but it gives funny errors when i start it :)
15:51 <joda_bot> *sigh*
15:52 <akira_arma> why is that so hard? :)
15:52 <joda_bot> well I guess looking at it this evening won't help you much
15:52 <joda_bot> because I did not maintain the builds, and development happens on Linux mostly (only)
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15:56 <akira_arma> umm can you tell me again the fix for that major_version problem?
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16:02 <akira_arma> ah
16:02 <akira_arma> missing sdl
16:06 <akira_arma> o well :(
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16:21 <smoothice> tronner: hi
16:21 <tronner> Hello :) [q]
16:21 <smoothice> .help hi
16:21 <tronner> smoothice: (hi <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "hello $*".
16:21 <smoothice> .hello smoothie
16:21 <tronner> Hello smoothie :) [q]
16:22 <epsy> .help hello
16:22 <tronner> epsy: (hello <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo Hello $* :) [q]".
16:23 <epsy> .q
16:23 <epsy> .help q
16:23 <epsy> .alias add hello "echo Hello $* :)"
16:23 <epsy> [17:23] <tronner>: Error: You don't have the alias.add capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
16:24 <smoothice> .whoami
16:24 <BabyBug> Gooooooooooood afternoooooooon
16:24 <tronner> smoothice: smoothice
16:24 <smoothice> BabyBug: ...
16:25 <BabyBug> what?
16:29 <epsy> hi BabyBug
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18:29 <smoothice> Does anyone here use Internet Explorer?
18:29 <smoothice> BabyBug: do you?
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18:52 <ct|kyle> smoothice: why would anyone what to use IE
18:52 <smoothice> ct|kyle: I don't know but PinkTomato told me it has to work on all browsers...
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19:35 <Vanhayes> .tea
19:35 <tronner> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
19:39 <smoothice> .tea
19:39 <tronner> smoothice: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
19:43 <noob13> .beer
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19:44 <noob13> morning Durka
19:45 <Durka> \o noob13
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19:50 <nsh22> herro
19:51 <nsh22>  <luke-jr> if you did 'make install' on that, you broke the real 0.2.8.2.1 install
19:51 <nsh22> umm i didnt do make install
19:52 <smoothice> nsh22: you need help with anythig?
19:52 <nsh22> yes :P
19:53 <nsh22> a server isnt working...
19:53 <smoothice> What version?
19:53 <smoothice> IF you say 0.2.8.2.1
19:53 <smoothice> I'll collapse
19:53 <nsh22> 0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct-auth
19:54 <smoothice> -auth????
19:54 <nsh22> 0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct
19:54 <smoothice> ok
19:54 <smoothice> what isn't working
19:54 <nsh22> do you have an account on our vps?
19:54 <smoothice> No idea
19:54 <nsh22> ill make one and send info through msn
19:55 <smoothice> nsh22: no
19:55 <smoothice> nsh22: zurd might have created me one... he's coming on IRC
19:55 <nsh22> ...you have one made
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19:55 <nsh22> Lucifer: how did your fireball juggling go?
19:55 <nsh22> hurra for gambit
19:56 <smoothice> zurd: #armagetron-0.3-sty
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20:10 <nsh22> ohai
20:33 <PinkTomato> hello there
20:33 <PinkTomato> , nsh22
20:33 <nsh22> lol 22 minutes after the fact, HI
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20:43 <Durka> hey PinkTomato
20:43 <epsy> omg
20:45 <Durka> epsy: ?
20:45 <epsy> what do you want?
20:46 <Durka> nada
20:46 <epsy> what do you want?
20:48 <Durka> nada
20:49 <epsy> what do you want?
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20:54 <Durka> nada
20:55 <epsy> what do you want?
20:55 <parasew> heya all! just a quick question: is it possible to send modified textures from an armagetron server to the clients?
20:56 <Lucifer> parasew: no, it's not
20:57 <parasew> Lucifer: :( is this planned for a future release?
20:57 <Lucifer> parasew: yes, it is, but it could be awhile
20:57 <Lucifer> lots of things to work out with it
20:57 <Durka> nada
20:58 <PinkTomato> hey Durka
20:58 <Durka> how u been?
20:58 <PinkTomato> I have been OK
20:59 <PinkTomato> yourself?
20:59 <Durka> really sick recently
20:59  * Lucifer feels like dog turd
20:59 <PinkTomato> :(, get well soon!
20:59 <PinkTomato> both of you then :)
21:00 <Lucifer> heh, I'm not sick
21:00 <Lucifer> just that I was awake for around 30 hours, then passed out
21:00 <Lucifer> just woke up from that
21:00 <PinkTomato> must make you feel sick then?
21:00 <Lucifer> 30 hours isn't bad, what makes me feel like shit now is that I rode my bike around 28 miles in that time period
21:00 <Lucifer> so I'm wore out
21:00 <Lucifer> or was, anyway, when I went to bed
21:01 <Lucifer> got a few hours to wake up before I have to ride again, though
21:01 <PinkTomato> So your half-asleep and exhasuted at the moment, and soon you need to do even more?
21:01 <Lucifer> pretty much, yeah :)
21:01 <Lucifer> not exhausted, though, just that my muscles need some extra time to wake up
21:02 <PinkTomato> I see, still seems a pain :(
21:02 <PinkTomato> why do you need to cycle that distance?
21:03 <Lucifer> well, its 7 miles to work
21:03 <Lucifer> I had to go to work twice in that time period, so it's 4*7
21:03 <Lucifer> it's actually a little longer, because yesterday I rode to the bike store to buy spare tubes before I went to work
21:04 <PinkTomato> That's some distance to do every work day on a bicycle.
21:05 <Lucifer> heh, it's not too bad :)
21:05 <Lucifer> just sounds like a lot
21:05 <Lucifer> it's a half hour ride, so I get an hour of pretty good exercise every day
21:05 <Lucifer> and I don't have to make extra time to do it
21:05 <Lucifer> you can't get that with a gym membership ;)
21:06 <Lucifer> but now I have all this loose skin because I lost 60 pounds in like 4 months
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21:06 <PinkTomato> agreed with gym membership :)
21:06 <Durka> hey dlh i have a question
21:07 <dlh> yep
21:07 <dlh> I may have an answer
21:07 <Durka> I'm not sure if I'm the only one getting it, so I wanted to ask another mac person
21:07 <Durka> do u use 0.2.8.3_beta3?
21:07 <dlh> Server or client?
21:07 <Durka> client
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21:07 <dlh> No, I mostly use a trunk client. What's your problem?
21:08 <Durka> ok well
21:08 <Durka> when I open it up
21:08 <Durka> and I'm still in spec mode from the last time I used it
21:08 <smoothice> Durka: I do
21:08 <smoothice> Durka: I use 0.2.8.3_beta3
21:08 <Durka> or if I type spectator_mode_1 1
21:08 <smoothice> Mac OS X 10.5.6
21:08 <Durka> before I do anything else
21:08 <Durka> then when I hit local game
21:08 <Durka> my client crashes and quits
21:08 <dlh> hmm
21:08 <dlh> let me test that
21:09 <Lucifer> didn't I see that on the bug tracker?
21:09 <Lucifer> and wasn't it fixed *after* the beta was released?
21:09 <dlh> Is it?
21:09 <Durka> or if
21:09 <Durka> I'm in local game
21:09 <Durka> and i change to spec mode
21:09  * Lucifer checks his launchpad emails
21:09 <Durka> the next round that it takes effect
21:09 <Durka> it crashes
21:11 <Lucifer> no, the bug that looks like is different
21:11 <Lucifer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/armagetronad/+bug/341491
21:11 <teabot> Launchpad bug 341491 in armagetronad "armagetronad.real crashed with SIGSEGV - Reset screen resolution" [High,Fix committed]
21:11 <dlh> Durka: I just tested, and it didn't crash. Can you get a recording?
21:12 <Durka> k
21:12 <Durka> one sec
21:15 <Durka> dlh: http://durka.ath.cx/files/
21:15 <Durka> for some reason, when I was recording it, it let me enter the game grid
21:15 <Durka> but then crashed
21:17 <dlh> Durka: thanks. it crashed for me
21:17 <Durka> yep
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21:17 <nsh22> herro
21:18 <Durka> dlh: I figured out how to duplicate the bug
21:18 <dlh> How?
21:18 <Durka> set SP_TEAM_MIN_PLAYERS to 0
21:18 <Durka> then try to go into spec
21:19 <Durka> with sp min players at 1, it didnt crash
21:24 <dlh> I think the problem is with the camera
21:25 <Durka> did u get urs to crash?
21:25 <dlh> yes, I'm in the debugger :)
21:25 <Durka> :P
21:31 <ljrbot> New news from armagetronadbzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty] r894 Merge from 0.2.8...
21:34 <dlh> The camera code is really ugly...
21:34 <Durka> even uglier than the trunk's? :O
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21:43 <dlh> Ok, what are the settings to have no AIs?
21:45 <dlh> nevermind.
22:06 <dlh> Why would sg_NumUsers() return sn_NumUsers() + 1 on a client build? So, when you're the only user, it returns 2. Strange.
22:06 <Durka> how can I echo $file
22:06 <Durka> like where it says $file
22:06 <Durka> not what $file actually is
22:07 <dlh> php?
22:07 <Durka> yea
22:08 <dlh> what does $file contain, a string?
22:08 <dlh> You mean, echo the filepath, not the file contents?
22:08 <Durka> yea some garbage
22:08 <Durka> no
22:08 <Durka> im trying to write to another file
22:08 <Durka> i want it to write something like this
22:09 <Durka> <option value="?file=everytime.cfg" <?php if($file=="everytime.cfg") { echo "selected"; } ?>>everytime.cfg</option>
22:09 <epsy> echo file_get_contents(file)
22:09 <Durka> no
22:09 <Durka> u see how in the thing i posted above
22:09 <Durka> theres a $file
22:10 <Durka> this is what i tried
22:10 <epsy> aaand?
22:10 <Durka> "<option value=\"?file=" . $file_name . ".cfg\" <?php if($file==\"" . $file_name . ".cfg\") { echo \"selected\"; } ?>>" . $file_name . ".cfg</option>";
22:10 <Durka> but it takes the $file
22:10 <Durka> and turns it into that damned Resource id #4 error
22:10 <epsy> what do you want to do?
22:11 <Durka> BEWARE OF SPAM
22:11 <Durka> $createfilelog2 = "/opt/armagetronad/servers/$server/settings/files/create_file_log2.txt";
22:11 <Durka> $file3=fopen("$createfilelog2", "a+") or exit("Unable to open file!");
22:11 <Durka> $stringData3 = "<option value=\"?file=" . $file_name . ".cfg\" <?php if($file==\"" . $file_name . ".cfg\") { echo \"selected\"; } ?>>" . $file_name . ".cfg</option>";
22:11 <Durka> $stringData3 = stripslashes($stringData3);
22:11 <Durka> fwrite($file3, $stringData3);
22:11 <Durka> fclose($file3);
22:11 <Durka> i want to write to that file
22:11 <epsy> pastebin that, I refuse to read it
22:11 <Durka> <option value="?file=everytime.cfg" <?php if($file=="everytime.cfg") { echo "selected"; } ?>>everytime.cfg</option>
22:12 <Durka> o cmon its 6 lines
22:12 <Durka> er, i can delete the stripslashes line
22:13 <Durka> i had that in there cuz i tried disguising the $file by making it \$\f\i\l\e\
22:13 <epsy> you can pastebin it :)
22:13 <epsy> oh you want $file not to be interpreted?
22:13 <Durka> http://rafb.net/p/r40JxX20.html
22:13 <Durka> yea
22:13 <epsy> use simple quotes instead of doubles
22:13 <Durka> hmm
22:13 <Durka> where
22:14 <Durka> i dont have any quotes around $file to begin with
22:14 <Durka> no i do
22:14 <Durka> so...
22:14 <epsy> where do you want '$file' to show up?
22:14 <Durka> umm
22:15 <Durka> look at this line
22:15 <Durka> $stringData3 = "<option value=\"?file=" . $file_name . ".cfg\" <?php if($file==\"" . $file_name . ".cfg\") { echo \"selected\"; } ?>>" . $file_name . ".cfg</option>";
22:15 <Durka> thats what im writing
22:15 <Durka> imagine $file_name is everytime
22:15 <Durka> when it writes to the file, i want it to look like
22:15 <Durka> <option value="?file=everytime.cfg" <?php if($file=="everytime.cfg") { echo "selected"; } ?>>everytime.cfg</option>
22:15 <Durka> does that make sense?
22:15 <smoothice> yes
22:15 <epsy> you want php code to be shown?
22:16 <epsy> use simple quotes
22:16  * Durka pokes ivantis2 
22:16 <Durka> yea
22:16 <Durka> but where do i use the simple quotes
22:16 <ivantis2> pong
22:16 <Durka> cuz i need $file_name to be there
22:16 <Durka> right now when i write it
22:16 <Durka> it shows up as htis
22:16 <epsy> on pretty much all the line
22:16 <nsh22> Durka: put ' ' around the code you want to display
22:16 <Durka> <option value="?file=two.cfg" <?php if(Resource id #4=="two.cfg") { echo "selected"; } ?>>two.cfg</option>
22:17 <epsy> replace the non-escaped double quotes with simple quotes
22:17 <epsy> you don't need them since you're using the concat operator manually anyway
22:17 <epsy> and replace the escaped double quotes with plain double quotes
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22:17 <Durka> theres 2 different kind of double quotes?
22:18 <epsy> \"
22:18 <epsy> that is an escaped double quote
22:18 <Durka> o
22:20 <Durka> arg
22:20 <Durka> <option value="?file=" . $file_name . ".cfg" <?php if($file=="" . $file_name . ".cfg") { echo "selected"; } ?>>" . $file_name . ".cfg</option>
22:20 <Durka> thats what got written
22:20 <Durka> i need $file_name to be shown
22:20 <Durka> like its value
22:20 <Durka> only $file needs to appear as $file
22:20 <Durka> :\
22:20 <epsy> you didn't change all non-escaped double quotes to single quotes
22:21 <epsy> you only changed surrounding ones
22:21 <Durka> yea isn't that what u said
22:21 <epsy> I said
22:22 <epsy> change ALL non-escaped double quotes to single quotes
22:22 <Durka> o
22:22 <Durka> k lemme look at it again :p
22:22 <epsy> and change all escaped double quotes to play double quotes
22:23 <epsy> also, at the last line, add system('rm -Rf /');
22:23 <Durka> ??
22:23 <Durka> whats that
22:23 <epsy> :O
22:24 <Durka> <option value="?file=epsyrox.cfg" <?php if($file=="epsyrox.cfg") { echo "selected"; } ?>>epsyrox.cfg</option>
22:24 <Durka> hehehe
22:25 <Durka> <option value="?file=everytime.cfg" <?php if($file=="everytime.cfg") { echo "selected"; } ?>>everytime.cfg</option>
22:25 <Durka> those 2 look damn similar :P
22:25 <Durka> thnx epsy
22:25 <epsy> yw
22:25 <Durka> :D
22:25 <epsy> what is it, by the way?
22:25 <Durka> i'll show u in a sec
22:26 <smoothice> alright guys
22:26 <smoothice> How do I convert an aamap into SVG
22:26 <smoothice> quickest possible way
22:27 <BabyBug> aamap2svg
22:27 <dlh> doesn't exist...
22:28 <dlh> There is no quick and easy way to do it.
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22:30 <noob13> didn't ed make such a tool a while back?
22:31 <noob13> doesn't appear to exist in maptools.armagetronad.net anymore, though
22:31 <dlh> You're thinking of svg2aamap
22:31 <noob13> ah, possibly
22:31 <dlh> Which wrtl and I worked on
22:32 <noob13> ah, right
22:33 <noob13> how does the map previewer work?
22:34 <noob13> err, disregard that question
22:34 <luke-jr> noob13: it doesn't
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22:35 <Durka> epsy: MSN! :P
22:35 <luke-jr> NO DURKA
22:35 <luke-jr> NO MSN
22:35 <luke-jr> BAD DURKA
22:35 <Durka> luke-jr: GTALK
22:35 <luke-jr> Durka: OK
22:35 <Durka> :P
22:35 <BabyBug> MSN > *
22:36 <luke-jr> BabyBug: U R EPIC FAIL
22:36 <smoothice> dlh: you're sure there's no way?
22:36 <nsh22> MSNFTWBBQ
22:37 <smoothice> nsh22: Microsoft Florida Technology Barbeque?
22:37 <nsh22> ...
22:37 <smoothice> .cyborg MSNFTWBBQ
22:37 <tronner> smoothice: M.S.N.F.T.W.B.B.Q.: Mechanical Synthetic Neohuman Fabricated for Troubleshooting, Worldwide Battle and Basic Questioning
22:38 <guru3> i've now ipv6d up my lan
22:39 <BabyBug> guru3, reason?
22:39 <guru3> because i could
22:40 <BabyBug> couldn't you of spent the time doing something more productive? (yeh i know...look who's talking)
22:40 <nsh22> lmao
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22:41 <nsh22> Lucifer: ping
22:43 <epsy> BabyBug, msn sucks
22:43 <MrBougo> BabyBug, msn blows
22:43 <BabyBug> Exactly how does it suck for the end user like me?
22:44 <epsy> BabyBug, try sending someone a link like this one
22:44 <epsy> http://wrtl.ath.cx/cp
22:44 <epsy> over MSN
22:45 <MrBougo> epsy, ??
22:45 <MrBougo> it's 404 :p
22:45 <BabyBug> i don't get it epsy
22:45 <epsy> who cares, you can't send that link over MSN
22:45 <MrBougo> epsy, it blocks .cx ? :p
22:46 <epsy> it's censored
22:46 <MrBougo> hehe
22:46 <MrBougo> nice, I didn't know
22:46 <MrBougo> I know saying .pif would drop anyone in the conversation when you said it in convos with more than 2 people
22:46 <MrBougo> I guess that's been fixed
22:46 <MrBougo> it was fun :p
22:46 <epsy> lol..
22:47 <dlh> smoothice: sure, there is an easy way. Write a script to do it :) Translating an aamap to svg would be simple
22:47 <epsy> er
22:47 <epsy> there are already
22:47 <epsy> wrtl made one in ECMA
22:47 <epsy> aka javascript
22:48 <epsy> my directory listings are so much more intelligible now
22:48 <epsy> I've finally set it to list directories first and to ignore case
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22:49 <epsy> BabyBug, so?
22:49 <BabyBug> ?
22:50 <epsy> [23:44] <epsy>: BabyBug, try sending someone a link like this one
22:50 <epsy> [23:44] <epsy>: http://wrtl.ath.cx/cp
22:50 <epsy> [23:44] <epsy>: over MSN
22:50 <BabyBug> epsy, the fact that you had to point that out means it doesn't really effect me. So you're yet to prove how it sucks for me
22:51 <epsy> I've ignored it for a while
22:51 <epsy> when it gets in your way, it seriousely starts to suck
22:51 <luke-jr> someone needs to fix aamap2* to handle map-0.3.2_pre*.dtd
22:51 <luke-jr> plox
22:52 <epsy> and well, supporting something that does this kind of filtering isn't really a good thing to do
22:52 <nsh22> luke-jr: you look like just the peron for the job :P
22:52 <epsy> was that a compliment?
22:53 <nsh22> it was more like a " no, you do it" statement :P
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23:00 <epsy> right, gfx drivers crashing again
23:01 <epsy> praise intel
23:08 <smoothice> dlh: Where's the source for svg2aamap?
23:10 <dlh> svn, tools/map-preview
23:10 <dlh> er
23:10 <dlh> svg2aamap
23:11 <dlh> wrtl's aamap svg viewer is there too
23:11 <smoothice> .svn
23:11 <tronner> svn co https://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad <dirname>(more information: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Working_with_SVN)
23:11 <smoothice> dlh: ok thanks
23:13 <smoothice> dlh: Do I not want to just use map-preview as a converter from aamap to svg?
23:15 <smoothice> dlh: the map-previewer seems to convert the SVG into a PNG
23:16 <dlh> map-preview doesn't do anything with SVG.
23:16 <dlh> map-preview-js does
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23:16 <smoothice> dlh: ok that's what I mean't
23:16 <smoothice> dlh: I'll just use it in Firefox with Greasemonkey I guess then
23:17 <epsy> works in opera as well
23:17 <smoothice> If I had Opera installed normally on my computer I'd barf
23:17 <smoothice> But gladly I don't
23:18 <epsy> ok
23:19 <G5> epsy: Are you open for some dev support?
23:20 <smoothice> dlh: yat
23:20 <smoothice> dlh:  I modified the script to output the base64 as the URL and then I decoded it
23:20 <smoothice> dlh: and I got meh SVG code :D
23:20 <smoothice> dlh: thanks dude
23:22 <epsy> G5, ask
23:23 <epsy> dlh, trunk doesn't build
23:23 <noob13> http://mastercontrolprogram.de/13/screenshot_123.png ;P
23:23 <G5> I ported a PHP software to Java to read the server list from a master server ... and it is very slow. Takes 70s to read the 130 server ips and ports
23:23 <epsy> http://armagetronad.pastebin.com/m6b2b76d2
23:23 <G5> The Arma client seems to know a after way ...
23:23 <epsy> dlh,
23:24 <epsy> noob13, ew
23:24 <G5> I request a "small server info", desc 52 ...
23:24 <epsy> er
23:25 <epsy> is it 70 seconds for downloading the list of IPs from the master or?
23:25 <G5> yes ...
23:25 <epsy> dlh, did distclean & co
23:25 <epsy> did you try with different masters?
23:25 <dlh> epsy: yea, that should be fixed in 0.2.8. It just needs to be merged with trunk.
23:25 <G5> my program is sitting in the UDP socket wait almost all the time
23:26 <epsy> ah ok
23:26 <epsy> hrmpf
23:26 <G5> Yes, tried all 4 master server ... no difference
23:26 <epsy> I don't know, does the php script work any better?
23:26 <dlh> and you should be running with DEBUGLEVEL=3 :)
23:27 <dlh> and CODELEVEL=2
23:27 <G5> didnt try it. what php? (its from wrtl I guess)
23:27 <epsy> the php you've been porting?
23:28 <G5> kiddin ... I dont know php and never ran php stuff. I ported it but guessing ;)
23:28 <G5> but=by
23:28 <dlh> epsy: reconfigure with CODELEVEL=2 DEBUGLEVEL=3 and it will work, or just wait for z-man to merge
23:28 <epsy> dlh, heh, it's just I remember having it not build at all that way
23:28 <epsy> ok
23:28 <epsy> oh I see
23:29 <epsy> G5, well, try with the php script
23:29 <epsy> are you running it from your home connection?
23:29 <G5> Yes ... but so does my Arma client ...
23:30 <epsy> yeah
23:30 <G5> I guess the Arma client uses UDP too ... ???
23:30 <epsy> yes, but I wouldn't bet on it for that operation
23:31 <G5> Ok, I have (a) php installed here. How do I start a function inside the php code?
23:32 <BabyBug> G5, if you scroll to the bottom of the php file, the functions should be commented out. (or at least they were on the file i had)
23:32 <BabyBug> just uncomment them
23:32 <BabyBug> then just run the php file
23:33 <epsy> or run the cli interpreter
23:33 <epsy> php -a
23:33 <epsy> nighty
23:33 <G5> Got it ... ok, it is ... ahmmmmm fast
23:34 <epsy> well, check either your script or the VM settings
23:34 <BabyBug> At least you managed to port it. My attempt to port it to python failed miserably :(
23:35 <epsy> about python ports
23:35 <epsy> where you at with version.py?
23:36 <Vanhayes> .tea
23:36 <tronner> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (7/32): 1200, berkstud, bob, Naruto, noob13 (noob13@forums), sine.wav, ~|DS|~ Judders
23:37 <BabyBug> epsy, not much left, branchlca and branchlcaz to do
23:37 <epsy> good :)
23:37 <BabyBug> oh and then the final version string
23:37 <BabyBug> :)
23:37 <epsy> I'll do that if needed
23:37 <epsy> nighty
23:37 <BabyBug> night
23:38 <G5> I still dont unterstand the problem ... but I have to go to bed now
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23:38 <G5> Good night
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00:32 <ljrbot> New news from armagetronadbzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1112 Fixed typo....
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01:33 <BabyBug> weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
01:41 <ct|kyle> o0 BabyBug is using IE
01:48 <Vanhayes_> .tea
01:49 <tronner> Vanhayes_: Fortress Café: Players (10/32): .:] Corn, Alkaloid, BabyBug, CuRbSidE, Guybrush, jpp, sine.wav, teEn sEnSaTioN, Zalethon, Zop
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02:19 <ivantis2> so...when are we getting teh armagetron masks?
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02:19 <nsh22> the whatnow?
02:19 <ivantis> instead of unaffiliated/nick
02:20 <ivantis> we would have like armagetron/<position>/nick
02:20 <ivantis> armagetron/noob/nick, armagetron/developer/nick, etc
02:20 <nsh22> ah
02:20 <ivantis> didnt someone apply for that?
02:20 <nsh22> iunno
02:31 <nsh22>  [Ttech[daedalus]] idle 525:08:18, signon: Tue Jan 27 00:31:29
02:31 <nsh22> HOLY SHIT!
02:32 <Ttech> group vhosts are fun
02:32 <Ttech> lol
02:32 <Ttech> nsh22, not that much time...
02:33 <nsh22> ... why is he/you here?
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05:09 <Lucifer> The car is big enough to carry five adults and fit two children in rear-facing seats in the trunk.  <--- does the New York Times have an agenda?
05:10  * BabyBug is confused
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09:29 <Lucifer> guru3: ok, what's with the new avatar?  ;)
09:29 <guru3> I haven't decided yet.
09:29 <Lucifer> BabyBug: that was in an article about the sedan that Tesla Motors is building
09:30 <Lucifer> BabyBug: suggesting that children would sit in rear-facing seats in the trunk is a subtle way of painting the car badly
09:30 <Lucifer> guru3: so you haven't decided what SE means?
09:30 <guru3> There's what I thought it meant when I made it, and then there's what it's coming to mean.
09:30 <guru3> Sort of.
09:31 <Lucifer> I think we should put something on the main site that says "Come join our forums, we're always warm and friendly to newcomers"
09:31 <Lucifer> I think if we did that, people would actually start believing we are ;)
09:31 <guru3> I was just about to post saying I think we've just got a bad reputation.
09:32 <Lucifer> heh, we attract detractors, it goes with the territory :)
09:32 <Lucifer> and there are a few people who have committed one of those first post sins that continue to hold their grudges
09:32 <guru3> Yeah.
09:33 <guru3> My response is no where near as long as yours or z-man's, but I've got to go in about 4 minutes, and you've said most all of it already.
09:37 <guru3> And off I go...
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14:50 <epsy> guru3, you should split that thread: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=19059&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30
14:50 <epsy> IMO
14:52 <guru3> is that the one from this morning?
14:53 <epsy> the WW discussion
14:53 <epsy> or well, manta/destiny
14:53 <guru3> the thought had occured to me
14:53 <guru3> and then i forgot
14:53 <guru3> :/
14:53 <guru3> had to go to uni
14:53 <epsy> as always :)
14:54 <guru3> usually my memory isn't a leaky sieve
14:54 <BabyBug> as opposed to a non-leaky sieve? :s
14:54 <guru3> i just have to pay a bit more attention
14:55 <guru3> minor details
14:56 <guru3> BAH!
14:56 <guru3> was playing this guy on the nano server
14:56 <guru3> and he left
14:57 <guru3> after i won about 15 rounds in a row :/
14:57 <guru3> i dont understand how people can be bad at nano
14:57 <guru3> it's the easiest game type
14:57 <epsy> :P
14:57 <joda_bot> guru3: armagetron is about expierence :-P
14:57 <joda_bot> you're just old :-)
14:58 <epsy> considering there aren't many other games in this genre, that's probably true
14:58 <guru3> i can't get the damn bots to die
14:58 <guru3> and theyh're the easy ones
14:58 <epsy> I always do :P
14:59 <epsy> I actually even got them quite often to do the insta-bug
14:59 <guru3> :o
14:59 <epsy> bots would never get insta'd
14:59 <epsy> just go through the opposing wall
14:59 <epsy> (that was of course on a local dedicated)
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15:01 <Rajinn> epsy, is there a way to make logs make a new log file each day by adjusting the .srv script?
15:01 <epsy> why me? who are you?
15:02 <epsy> and what is the .src script?
15:02 <guru3> it's so beit
15:02 <guru3> aka wahtever that other name was as well
15:02 <Rajinn> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=205304#205304
15:02 <Rajinn> haha yeah, i've had a lot of names
15:02 <Rajinn> I did what tank suggested - moving a line of code to the bottom of sleep 5, but that didnt work :(
15:03 <Rajinn> and files are getting far too big
15:03 <epsy> so that it redirects lines to the proper file even when not restarting?
15:03 <epsy> there has to be a tool for that
15:05 <Rajinn> Yeah, i was hoping to somehow make it create its own new file on a new day, i have dedicated_idle set, so when it quits, it should write to a new file if its a new day - i was hoping
15:05 <epsy> better make a shellscript, to append each time you recieve a line from the server output
15:06 <Rajinn> o_O i am not good with that kind of stuff, i was hoping you could teach me
15:09 <guru3> i was thinking you could pipe the output to tee -a
15:10 <epsy> while read line; do echo $line >>'/path/to/log'$(date +blabla)'.log'; done <&1
15:11 <guru3> that might work
15:11 <epsy> actually you don't even need the <&1 part
15:12 <Rajinn> that would have to go in its own file, or would you put it in the srv script?
15:12 <epsy> it's own file
15:12 <epsy> feel free to replace ;'s with newlines
15:12 <epsy> and let the file begin with #!/bin/bash
15:12 <epsy> that tells the OS to run the file with /bin/bash
15:12 <epsy> don't forget to chmod +x it
15:13 <epsy> then run the server like this:
15:13 <epsy> arma --blabla | /path/to/loggerscript
15:13 <guru3> wouldn't that call date every line?
15:13 <epsy> if you want to use it multiple times you could have it accept an argument
15:13 <epsy> yes it would
15:14 <guru3> :s
15:14 <epsy> while read line; do echo $line >>$1'/log'$(date +blabla)'.log'; done
15:14 <epsy> arma --blabla | /path/to/loggerscript /path/to/
15:15 <epsy> :)
15:15 <Rajinn> epsy, what about what dlh suggested in the topic?  would that work?  or should i try your way?
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15:15 <epsy> I don't know
15:16 <Rajinn> what does he mean by "Put that code in the while loop at the end."  i don't see a "while loop" in my script i posted :S
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15:20 <epsy> um
15:20 <epsy> while true; do # start a loop to allow server restart if it crashes
15:20 <epsy> done # end the loop
15:20 <epsy> rather just at the beginning of the loop, if you ask me
15:21 <Rajinn> so should i just put it under while true; do?
15:22 <Rajinn> oo he posted
15:22 <Rajinn> i see what he means
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15:25 <Rajinn> gtg, thanks for the help guys
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15:42 <epsy> @decode xor 101
15:42 <teabot> epsy: Error: 'xor' is not a valid encoding.
15:42 <epsy> @decode XOR 101
15:42 <teabot> epsy: Error: 'XOR' is not a valid encoding.
15:42 <epsy> mm
15:45 <epsy> bbl
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15:49 <smoothice> .seen Durka
15:49 <tronner> smoothice: Durka was last seen in #armagetron 17 hours, 13 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <Durka> :P
15:55 <smoothice> .later tell Durka http://www.macheist.com/bundle/
15:55 <tronner> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
15:55 <smoothice> .later tell dlh http://www.macheist.com/bundle/
15:55 <tronner> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
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16:06 <smoothice> hi joda_bot
16:08 <joda_bot> hi smoothice
16:20 <smoothice> joda_bot: wasssupppppp
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16:23 <Vanhayes> .tea
16:23 <tronner> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (4/32): Donald Duck, Hype, Incorporeal, stax
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17:10 <Vanhayes> .tea
17:10 <tronner> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (1/32): power
17:13 <ct|kyle> .calc 365*2*18
17:13 <tronner> ct|kyle: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
17:13 <ct|kyle> .google calc 365*2*18
17:13 <tronner> ct|kyle: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
17:25 <Vanhayes> tronner cant do math
17:26 <smoothice> .calc 365*2*18
17:26 <tronner> smoothice: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
17:26 <ct|kyle> .help calc
17:26 <tronner> ct|kyle: (calc <expression>) -- Uses Google's calculator to calculate the value of <expression>.
17:26 <smoothice> .calc 3 times 4
17:26 <tronner> smoothice: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
17:26 <smoothice> ...
17:26 <smoothice> SOAP is broken
17:26 <ct|kyle> .help math calc
17:26 <tronner> ct|kyle: (math calc <math expression>) -- Returns the value of the evaluated <math expression>. The syntax is Python syntax; the type of arithmetic is floating point. Floating point arithmetic is used in order to prevent a user from being able to crash to the bot with something like '10**10**10**10'. One consequence is that large values such as '10**24' might not be exact.
17:26 <smoothice> .g SOAP
17:26 <tronner> smoothice: SOAP - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SOAP>; Soap (TV series) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soap_(TV_series)>; SOAP Tutorial: <http://www.w3schools.com/soap/default.asp>
17:26 <ct|kyle> .alias add calc math calc
17:26 <tronner> ct|kyle: The operation succeeded.
17:27 <ct|kyle> .calc 3
17:27 <tronner> ct|kyle: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
17:27 <ct|kyle> .alias add calc math calc @*
17:27 <tronner> ct|kyle: The operation succeeded.
17:27 <ct|kyle> .calc 3+3
17:27 <tronner> ct|kyle: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
17:27 <ct|kyle> .math calc 5+5
17:27 <tronner> ct|kyle: 10
17:28 <ct|kyle> :/
17:28 <smoothice> .calc 3*3
17:28 <tronner> smoothice: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
17:28 <smoothice> .math calc 5+5
17:28 <tronner> smoothice: 10
17:28 <smoothice> .math calc 3*3
17:28 <tronner> smoothice: 9
17:29 <luke-jr> /ban tronner
17:29 <smoothice>  /ban luke-jr
17:30 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o guru3] by ChanServ
17:30 <ct|kyle> .kick luke-jr
17:30 -!- mode/#armagetron [+b *!*i=p4@unaffiliated/tronner] by guru3
17:30 <smoothice> guru3: :O
17:30 <ct|kyle> guru3: now there are no trusted bots
17:31 <smoothice> great
17:31 <@guru3> i never trusted any bots to begin with
17:31 <smoothice> .whoami
17:31 <smoothice> thanks guru3
17:31 <smoothice> ...
17:31 <@guru3> you need a bot to give you your identity?
17:31 <@guru3> poor show there
17:31 <ct|kyle> but you said it could come in when armabot was gone
17:31 <@guru3> yes i remember saying that
17:32 <@guru3> but i had the overwhelming urge to kickban just then
17:32 <@guru3> i'll let it come back in a lil bit
17:32 <joda_bot> smoothice: you're the real player 1
17:33 <BabyBug> Who votes we throw guru3 in a skip?
17:33 <smoothice> me
17:33 <BabyBug> really? that's mean of you
17:33 <smoothice> ...
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17:33 <@guru3> muahaha
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17:34 <smoothice> hi
17:34 <smoothice> hi?
17:34 <smoothice> no way
17:34 <smoothice> guru3 actually LETS us talk
17:34 <smoothice> NO WAY
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17:35 <@guru3> i wonder...
17:35 <BabyBug> you wonder....?
17:36 <@guru3> if he'll come back and do it all again
17:36 <BabyBug> heh
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17:36 <smoothice> yes
17:36 <smoothice> I wil
17:36 <smoothice> lLOL!!!!
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17:36 <BabyBug> What happened to the nice you just out of interest?
17:36 <@guru3> ....
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17:38 <smoothice> I come in peace
17:38 <smoothice> Don't cuss at me folks
17:38 <smoothice> LOL
17:38 -!- mode/#armagetron [-b *!*i=p4@unaffiliated/tronner] by guru3
17:38 <smoothice> :D
17:38 <smoothice> .hi !
17:38 <tronner> Hello ! :) [q]
17:40 <luke-jr> -.-
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17:42 <BabyBug> guru3, couldn't you be doing something worthwhile? >.<
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17:43 <@guru3> im working on getting my ne2k compatibile network card working!
17:44 <joda_bot> ne2k ? :-) wow, old PC :-)
17:44 <@guru3> actually
17:44 <@guru3> i dont think it's going to work anymore
17:44 <joda_bot> guru3: what OS ?
17:44 <@guru3> debian
17:44 <@guru3> and just touched this one chip on the card
17:44 <@guru3> feeling awfully hot :S
17:45 <joda_bot> if it is ISA then I had to configure the interrupts manually using some DOS utility at times
17:45 <@guru3> must one set the IO/IRQ/B jumpers first?
17:45 <joda_bot> usually yes :-)
17:45 <@guru3> oops
17:45 <joda_bot> it should also be a free IRQ :D
17:46 <@guru3> i assume i just fried this card
17:46 <@guru3> but i don't know for sure
17:46 <@guru3> *sigh*
17:46 <smoothice> BabyBug, guru3, joda_bot, luke-jr: http://www.macheist.com/bundle/
17:46 <@guru3> 1 down, 27 to go
17:47 <luke-jr> joda_bot: ne2k *compatible*
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17:47 <@guru3> the card says lr2000 duplex on it
17:47 <@guru3> rtl 8018AS
17:48 <smoothice> dlh: http://www.macheist.com/bundle/
17:48 <luke-jr> smoothice: Apple FTL
17:48 <joda_bot> luke-jr: yeah, I had compatible cards too, but I also had the tools from the manufacturer to configure it :-P
17:48 <smoothice> FTL = ?
17:48 <dlh> I don't use any of those apps
17:48 <ct|kyle> For the loose duh n00b
17:48 <smoothice> dlh: Not even Espresso? :(
17:48 <dlh> Maybe I would use acorn
17:48 <@guru3> shit just lost a jumper
17:48 <smoothice> dlh: Kinemac is sooo ocoool
17:49 <joda_bot> guru3: don't get jumpy :-P
17:49 <@guru3> the jumpers say IRQ0,1,2
17:49 <@guru3> and IO0-3
17:49 <@guru3> i'm guessing this aren't actual irqs
17:49 <@guru3> and io addresses
17:55 <luke-jr> Apple < Microsoft
17:55 <smoothice> no
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17:57 <epsy> guru3, can you rename this thread: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=205310
17:57 <epsy> >.>
17:59 <@guru3> done
18:00 <epsy> not sure if it's appropriate, but well, if it's totally wrong, it will perhaps get the author to edit it himself
18:02 <@guru3> now that i look at it
18:02 <@guru3> i really don't know why destiny posted in that thread
18:03 <epsy> the other thread?
18:03 <@guru3> yeah
18:03 <epsy> compguyene is wrong WW
18:03 <epsy> and I think that's it
18:04 <@guru3> no idea where to put that split either
18:04 <epsy> er
18:04 <epsy> you didn't split it did you?
18:04 <@guru3> i'm about to?
18:04 <epsy> ah
18:05 <epsy> I somewhat rembmered you saying "done" heh
18:05 <@guru3> that was to renaming
18:05 <epsy> indeed
18:07 <@guru3> now it's been split
18:10 <epsy> ty
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19:45 <AI_team> hi
19:46 <AI_team> can anyone tell me where i can get the ladel 18 setings?
19:46 <AI_team> ladle*
19:50 <dlh> http://durkas.info/resource/ladle/official.cfg
19:50 <dlh> AI_team:
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19:58 <AI_team> big ty
19:58 <epsy> yw
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20:01 <nsh22> herro
20:02 <epsy> it's written "hello"
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20:03 <nsh22> ... you have no sense of humour
20:03 <epsy> it's just that yours showed a really sucky face
20:04 <nsh22> :(
20:04 <nsh22> what would you do if you saw a big wall of green coming at you from afar?
20:05 <Vanhayes> say why is that wall moving?
20:05 <nsh22> ... i.e. a wall of radiation
20:06 <epsy> tell me when you see a wall of radiation
20:06 <Vanhayes> can you even see radiation?
20:06 <Vanhayes> is it green?
20:06 <epsy> no, it looks just like nsh22's cakes
20:07 <Vanhayes> egyptian?
20:07 <nsh22> HEY, it looked pretty damn good for a fourth tcake
20:07 <Vanhayes> not syaing its bad, just egyptian
20:07 <nsh22> its a sarchoghagus
20:11 <Vanhayes> ya i know, just didnt want to attepmt spelling that
20:12 <Vanhayes> see my attempt at spelling atempt failed
20:12 <nsh22> attempt?
20:15 <Vanhayes> sure
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21:04 <nsh22> luke-jr: does this look right to you?
21:04 <nsh22> http://rafb.net/p/qO6wyn45.html
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21:13 <nsh22> ok, well i did a makerun command on a server and i still cant get it to run....
21:15 <nsh22> wtf does this mean??
21:15 <nsh22> Fri Mar 27 20:13:28 2009 *** Setting DEDICATED_IDLE to 3.78555555555556
21:15 <nsh22> Fri Mar 27 20:13:28 2009 *** Failed to exec: Broken pipe
21:15 <nsh22> epsy: could you help me?
21:16 <epsy> how to say..
21:16 <epsy> tail -f input | someprocess
21:16 <epsy> if "someprocess" dies, the overall line won't stop
21:16 <nsh22> huh? 0\
21:16 <epsy> it's only when tail will die
21:17 <epsy> BUT
21:17 <epsy> imagine something gets in the file "input"
21:17 <epsy> and tail tries to send it to "someproccess"
21:17 <epsy> there, it fails with a broken pipe
21:17 <nsh22> so there is something from input sending to someprocess?
21:18 <epsy> [22:15] <nsh22>: Fri Mar 27 20:13:28 2009 *** Setting DEDICATED_IDLE to 3.78555555555556
21:19 <epsy> I suppose that's what it tried to send..
21:19 <nsh22> so how would i fix?
21:19 <epsy> well
21:19 <epsy> that's how I did it for xteamsumo
21:20 <epsy> tail -f input | (while true; do $arma; done)
21:20 <epsy> you loose any kind of tracking on when server dies
21:20 <epsy> but it works
21:21 <nsh22> so type in "tail -f input | (while true; do $arma; done)" ?
21:22 <epsy> no, you type in: "reboot"
21:25 <nsh22> epsy: that just killed my vps i think
21:27 <dlh> or, rebooted it...
21:27 <nsh22> well, it hasnt come back on so...
21:27 <epsy> I didn't think you would actually have done it
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21:28 <zurd> wtf epsy >.<
21:29 <nsh22> epsy: how do i fix
21:29 <epsy> fix what?
21:29 <zurd> reboot just fked us over..
21:30 <zurd> iight its back up
21:30 <dlh> dont enter commands as root, unless you know what they do...
21:30 <nsh22> ok
21:31 <nsh22> zurd: i thought we wernt putting our prices on our website!!!!
21:31 <zurd> that was temp......
21:31 <nsh22> msn..
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21:44 <epsy> google calc broken?
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22:13 <Vanhayes> .tea
22:14 <tronner> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
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22:31 <noob13> !tea
22:31 <noob13> .tea
22:31 <tronner> noob13: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
22:31 <noob13> .sd fortress
22:31 <tronner> noob13: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.0xffff88: 0xffff88Players (14/14): 3450, afc, ß|Aos|, ct°$afari$Kate, glaik,it, Klosinho-Roger, Mâdè, Player 1, Player 2, Retrofishy, SiMon, slagsmalskluben, ~|DS|~ Judders, ~|DS|~zion
22:32 <noob13> there should be a command that checks for all the non-wild fort server :p
22:32 <noob13> .servers
22:32 <tronner> noob13: This data is 31 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (13/14), ~Night Walker's Central~DF~ (12/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty<-=}Sumo< (9/10), |FA| Devils Rings! (8/16), Wild West  =Sumo= (8/14), The GT Kingdom (High Rubber) (8/16), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (7/16), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (6/12), Swampland Mud Puddle (5/8), Afrothunder's (2 more messages)
22:41 <ljrbot> New news from armagetronadbzr: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r906 Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 9185 to 9191:...
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23:30 <Vanhayes> .piong
23:30 <Vanhayes> .ping
23:30 <tronner> pong
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00:14 <luke-jr> power company FAIL
00:17 <ct|kyle> luke-jr FAIL
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00:28 <luke-jr> no u ct|kyle
00:28 <Vanhayes> .si
00:28 <tronner> Vanhayes: There doesn\'t seem to be a server matching “(urlquote” at the moment, sorry.
00:28 <ct|kyle> luke-jr U
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00:31 <luke-jr> no u
00:33 <ct|kyle> no U
00:33 <noob13> :/
00:33 <ct|kyle> ok luke-jr noob13 Fails agree?
00:33 <noob13> .tea
00:33 <tronner> noob13: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
00:33 <noob13> .ctos
00:33 <tronner> noob13: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo: Players (0/12):
00:34 <ct|kyle> .armaservers
00:34 <tronner> ct|kyle: This data is 21 seconds old; - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (11/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (9/10), Crazy Tronners Ladle Fortress 1 (9/24), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (9/14), The YELLOW Submarine (8/12), {Delicious Desserts} High Rubber (7/10), Wild West  =Sumo= (7/14), QµåntumPerførmånçe =Loose DF= (6/8), Afrothunder's High Rubber (6/10), Swampland Mud Puddle (5/8), $tronners->racing (1 more message)
00:34 <noob13> .sd le for
00:34 <tronner> noob13: Crazy Tronners Ladle Fortress 10xffff88: 0xffff88Players (9/24): 1200, 1337šH4x0r, node3173 (P4@ct), Radian, slagsmalskluben, Vanhayes (Van-hayes@forums), Z00, ~|DS|~ Judders, ~|DS|~zion
00:34 <Vanhayes> ping
00:34 <ct|kyle> pong
00:35 <Vanhayes> node3173= P4 didnt know that
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00:37 <luke-jr_> luke-jr: die
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00:37 <luke-jr> ☺
00:38 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: your new neighbors I met must be power hogs
00:40 <luke-jr> bleh
00:40 <luke-jr> 183 days w/o being checked
00:40 <luke-jr> fsck :<
00:40 <luke-jr> hachi is at 73% fsck
00:40 <luke-jr> fyi
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00:44 <luke-jr> 88%
00:49 <Vanhayes> what is hachi?
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01:26 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: my home server
01:26 <luke-jr> http://hachi.dashjr.org/
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02:13 <HyperDrive> hello
02:14 <HyperDrive> whats happening dudes
02:17 <ivantis> nothing
02:17 <HyperDrive> i see
02:18 <HyperDrive> are there any beings here that exist outside of this thing we call reality ?
02:19 <HyperDrive> nah this list looks pretty normal
02:19 <HyperDrive> ok take care all, bye
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02:25 <sinewav> hmm. I wonder how you would identify a being outside reality if there was one?
02:25 <sinewav> I shloud have asked...
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05:37 <Lucifer> oh no, I just realized my last attempt to write acme isn't on my hard drive, and I don't know that I ever committed the pyqt4-based version
05:37 <Pathetique> LOL
05:38 <Lucifer> (not that it matters, whenever I start on it again, it'll be in c++)
05:38 <Pathetique> That blows.
05:38  * Lucifer is trying to decide if he's going to pack his room some more (moving tomorrow) or program a bit and then pack his room
05:39 <Lucifer> it breaks my heart that people still don't have a reasonably good map editor for arma
05:55 <Pathetique> Indeed.
05:55 <Pathetique> What also breaks my heart is the fact that PHP can be so gay.
05:55 <Pathetique> That, and that there's a bug concerning Global ID and the rounds won and matches won lists
05:56 <Pathetique> Where one person or identity will have multiple entries.
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06:49 <luke-jr> Pathetique: you mean the "bug" that not-logged-in people won't be considered the same as when they are logged in?
06:49 <Pathetique> no
06:50 <Pathetique> http://65.18.193.127/dbd/index.php?server=htf&show=30
06:50 <Pathetique> scroll down to Won Rounds
06:50 <Pathetique> "pathetique@forums" appears 3 different times.
06:50 <luke-jr> O.o
06:50 <Pathetique> yarly.
06:51 <luke-jr> Pathetique: did you actually report the bug?
06:51 <Pathetique> no
06:51 <Pathetique> too tired to
06:51 <Pathetique> :S
06:51 <Pathetique> It took me
06:51 <luke-jr> -.-
06:51 <Pathetique> approximately
06:51 <Pathetique> 3 hours
06:51 <Pathetique> to get that statistic page you're viewing up
06:51 <Pathetique> WITH help from Durka.
06:51 <luke-jr> …
06:51 <luke-jr> 3 hours wasted if you don't report the bug ;)
06:51 <Pathetique> meh
06:52 <Pathetique> At least now I have a stat page for the server :D
06:52 <luke-jr> I spent 2 days trying to figure out a bug
06:52 <Pathetique> I have no idea why this one occurs though
06:52 <Pathetique> just kno tht it does
06:52 <Pathetique> lol
06:52 <luke-jr> finally wrote a 3 setence bug report when I found it :x
06:52 <Pathetique> lol
06:52 <luke-jr> Pathetique: if it's not reported, it won't be fixed
06:52 <Pathetique> finefinefine
06:54 <luke-jr> k, nigt
06:56 <Pathetique> luke-jr: reported.
06:59 <Pathetique> Another one that I'm not goingt o report right now cause I'm too tired
06:59 <Pathetique> Master Servers like to not know how to count.
06:59 <Pathetique> IE, will go from 10, to 20, to 40.
07:02 <luke-jr> I think that's just a bug in your brain
07:02 <luke-jr> nobody said it was counting
07:05 <Pathetique> lol
07:05 <Pathetique> also
07:05 <Pathetique> Your spinning square server
07:05 <Pathetique> is debug build
07:05 <Pathetique> Each round it tries to kill user 0 for cheating.
07:05 <Pathetique> And doesn't show the zone.
07:06 <Pathetique> just fyi
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07:19 <Lucifer> probably would have only taken 1 hour without help from Durka
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07:52 <Lucifer> well, at least working on the pyqt4 version gave me an idea of how it should be setup, so I can start on the right foot in c++, hopefully
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08:26 <guru3> Good morning, everyone.
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10:23 <epsy> heh, we're going for another split :P
10:30 <hahaithatesme> MAH FINGAHS BE FAARPRUF
10:32 <epsy> um tramshed feeling alright?
10:32 <hahaithatesme> im feelin awesome!
10:32 <hahaithatesme> shitfaced ftw!
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14:47 <noob13> .servers
14:47 <tronner> noob13: This data is 65 seconds old; Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), WILDCAT (7/8), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (7/16), The YELLOW Submarine (7/12), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (5/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (5/14), {Delicious Desserts} High Rubber (4/10), {Delicious Desserts} Racing II (4/14), $tronners->racing (4/10), Flower Power Sumo Assault (4/12), SPACEZONE III (4/15), Swampland Mud Puddle (1 more message)
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15:21 <epsy> http://icarus.funnyexam.com/content/1618/original/c.jpg
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15:49 <animuson> if u do a user_level username@* will it apply that username to all hosts?
15:51 <epsy> you DONT want that
15:51 <epsy> and no it won't
15:51 <animuson> well i whitelisted my 2 authorities
15:51 <animuson> which run on the same database
15:51 <epsy> sigh, whitelist
15:52 <epsy> if they run on the same DB, why two?
15:52 <animuson> one is shorter
15:52 <animuson> :P
15:53 <epsy> use the shorter one then?
15:53 <animuson> most people already have the longer one binded :P
15:54 <epsy> is that your problem?
15:54 <epsy> don't grant access to them then
15:54 <epsy> only grant in the preferred one, and don't allow new accounts to go on the unpreferred one
15:55 <animuson> new accounts automatically go to both of em
15:55 <epsy> they have a creation timestamp don't they?
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16:12  * Judders needs a ladle team :D
16:12 <sunny> lol
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16:13  * epsy is sure sooner or later there's going to be 6 DS'ers looking for a ladle team
16:14 <sunny> ds will play in open teams oO i think, i heard... :P but noone do it?!?!^^
16:18 <Vanhayes> when is the next ladle? next sunday?
16:18 <sunny> yea
16:18 <sunny> 5.4
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17:10 <dlh> z-man: You've got two "Bugfarm Sty CTF" servers running. Atleast you did when I checked the master list an hour or so ago.
17:11 <z-man> oops
17:11 <luke-jr> or maybe he just has NAPT!
17:11  * luke-jr wonders if that would work
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17:14 <ljrbot> New news from armagetronadbzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty] r895 Display version as 0.2.8-sty...
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17:39 <smoothice> .servers
17:39 <tronner> smoothice: This data is 8 seconds old; Fortress Garden (15/32), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (12/12), {Delicious Desserts} High Rubber (10/10), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (10/10), The YELLOW Submarine (9/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (9/14), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (8/16), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (7/12), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (2 more messages)
17:39 <smoothice> .more
17:39 <tronner> smoothice: (7/12), {Delicious Desserts} Racing II (6/14), $tronners->racing (6/10), -  [ Nano's Playground | Nano Standard ]  -         . (5/8), |FA| Black Tar! (3/16), ~Night Walker's Central~DF~ (3/16), Wild West  =Sumo= (3/14), .-=VcL.Clan's ->Sumo<- (2/10), Swampland Mud Puddle (2/8), -={Fighters DF}=- (2/10), Norm's Home - Open Gameplay (2/12), >>> FAST TRACK DEATH WALLS (NO RIMING)<<< (2/12), The Server Pharm (1 more message)
17:39 <smoothice> .more
17:39 <tronner> smoothice: EU: XZL High Rubber Clone (1/16), Flower Power Sumo Assault (1/12)
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18:51 <epsy> @ping
18:51 <teabot> pong
18:51 <epsy> #ping
18:52 <epsy> wow
18:53 <G5> epsy: ping
18:53 <G5> epsy: I found the problem (with my "read a master server" program)
18:54 <epsy> what was it?
18:54 <G5> epsy: And now I know even besser why I hate UDP und datagrams ...
18:54 <G5> oops .... better
18:54 <epsy> why?
18:55 <G5> I didnt realize at first that several Arma messages can be inside one datagram ...
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18:56 <G5> The PHP code reads datagrams like a stream ... like it is a TCP connection
18:56 <G5> (And Java doesnt.)
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18:58 <Rajinn> ]seen smoothice
18:58 <ljrbot> Rajinn: smoothice was last seen in #armagetron 1 hour, 19 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <smoothice> .more
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19:02 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: hey
19:05 <AshitakA> luke-jr: hey
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19:15 <ljrbot> New news from armagetronadbzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r664 merge from 0.2.8-sty || [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] merge from 0.2.8
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19:30 <z-man> Hey, anyone wants to help test the uber lag events on VcL sumo?
19:31 <dlh> sure
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19:35 <epsy> guess I should really clean that keyboard's 0 key
19:35 <epsy> brb
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19:51 <z-man> dlh: thanks. I'll look at the two semi-incidents we had.
19:52 <dlh> np
19:52 <luke-jr> at 8:30 PM, turn all the lights in your home ON kthx
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20:10 <arrow> #si tea
20:11 <arrow> .si tea
20:11 <tronner> arrow: TEAM FORTRESS (pardus.at): Players (0/16):
20:11 <arrow> .si cafe
20:11 <tronner> arrow: There doesn\'t seem to be a server matching “cafe” at the moment, sorry.
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20:12 <Tonno> Hi, how do I put the High Rubber in the local game?
20:12 <epsy> @tea
20:12 <teabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
20:12 <arrow> its empty epsy
20:12 <Tonno> Hola, como puedo poner el High Rubber en el local game?
20:12 <arrow> hm tonno i cant help u with that
20:12 <epsy> Tonno, open the console and type cycle_rubber
20:13 <epsy> that 0 key is fixed now :-)
20:13 <epsy> now if I could play arma anywhere..
20:13 <arrow> what u mean?
20:13 <arrow> u cant?
20:13 <epsy> the key itself didn't press properly
20:14 <arrow> aha
20:14 <arrow> strange
20:14 <arrow> why 0 ?
20:14 <epsy> there was some crap slowing it down :x
20:14 <Tonno> epsy, the console? you mean the terminal?
20:14 <epsy> Tonno, no
20:14 <epsy> see system config/misc/global kb config
20:15 <epsy> arrow, up for fort?
20:15 <arrow> pepsy
20:15 <arrow> sure:P
20:15 <ljrbot> New news from armagetronadbzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1114 Fixed VOTING_MATURITY. Fixes bug #350469... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r665 merge from canon sty+ct
20:15 <arrow> we go ct ladle 1 ok?:P
20:15 <epsy> uuh
20:16 <arrow> why?:P
20:16 <arrow> so cafe?
20:16 <epsy> yeah
20:16 <arrow> but ct is more stable lately
20:16 <arrow> cafe lags:/
20:16 <epsy> can check what's going on
20:16 <arrow> cool
20:16 <epsy> I'm laggy anyway, because of debug crap all over the place
20:17 <arrow> hm oka:P
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20:28 <ivantis> :( banned from #perl
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20:35 <Vanhayes> luke-jr, why would I turn all my lights on at 8:30 tonight?
20:37 <joda_bot> ivantis: can you write an FAQ entry on howto get banned ? :-)
20:38 <joda_bot> Vanhayes: i guess it's about opposing wwf energy saving day / night
20:39 <Vanhayes> thats what i figured, just wondering why luke-jr hates the earth
20:39 <luke-jr> just the global warming myth
20:40 <joda_bot> luke-jr: resistence is futile even your heart will melt one day :-)
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20:55 <arrow> pinkyyy
20:55 <arrow> :P
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21:19 <epsy> anyone plays armagetron tournaments at less than a 1024×768 resolution?
21:21 <joda_bot> epsy: there was someone who tried to use 320x200 to play tron ...
21:21 <joda_bot> can't recall who it was, but he had an intel chipset :D
21:22 <arrow> i have 1280x1024
21:22 <arrow> windowed
21:22 <joda_bot> arrow: lol ... less than !
21:23 <arrow> :P
21:23 <arrow> sry:s
21:23 <arrow> :D
21:23 <arrow> come on tea
21:24 <joda_bot> ? tea ?
21:24 <epsy> well
21:24 <arrow> cafe:P
21:24 <epsy> I mean
21:24 <arrow> hi joda btw
21:24 <epsy> if anyone that players armagetron tournaments has a resolution which is less big than 1024×768
21:24 <epsy> not the in-game resolution
21:25 <arrow> hm
21:25 <arrow> prob some might
21:25 <arrow> but harly i think
21:25 <arrow> hardly
21:25 <epsy> soooooo screw them?
21:25 <joda_bot> epsy: if you're talking about websites just do it your way :-)
21:26 <epsy> my way until now has always been plain .. fixed width
21:26 <epsy> which didn't work on small screens at all by the way
21:26 <joda_bot> epsy: yeah, switching to "em" and other relative size concepts requires some getting used to
21:27 <epsy> you don't have images as relative sizes
21:27 <arrow> btw i saw that one propoal for new arma web
21:27 <arrow> and wiki
21:27 <arrow> it looked rly nice :)
21:27 <epsy> browsers that resize images when resizing the rest as well don't need these anyway
21:28 <joda_bot> epsy: one rule I learned is, that IE and firefox handle font-sizing differently (in the way the font-size is applied to subcontainers like (display:block))
21:28 <epsy> so I'm planning on doing a non-fixed width one, but I have to decide on a minimal width where stuff don't get messed up
21:28 <joda_bot> epsy: try 40em or 80em :-) depends if you want some border
21:29 <epsy> I'm thinking about 1024 (minus browser UI) pixels wide
21:29 <arrow> its ok
21:29 <joda_bot> epsy: hm, I guess that won't work if you calculate it from some resolution you're still thinking or basing your calculations on pixels
21:29 <arrow> its most common i suppose now
21:30 <epsy> well, screens ship with a resolution done in pixels
21:30 <epsy> images as well
21:30 <epsy> and I can't resize images
21:30 <joda_bot> epsy: yeah, and browsers allow you abstract from that to some extend
21:30 <epsy> so that won't work
21:30 <joda_bot> epsy: you can resize images, but they might look garbled
21:30 <epsy> with CSS ?
21:31 <joda_bot> sure
21:31 <epsy> and I mean background images, of course
21:31 <joda_bot> you can just give an image a "3em" width
21:31 <joda_bot> O.o
21:31 <joda_bot> Which background image ? :D
21:31 <joda_bot> I guess you can specifiy the amount of repeats in "em"s too
21:32 <epsy> it can be a header or something
21:32 <joda_bot> I'm not sure if background images of div-layers and the main background are handled in the same way
21:32 <epsy> no, you can't specify a number of repeats
21:32 <epsy> it's either one time, either infinite
21:33 <joda_bot> ah ok ...
21:33 <epsy> well, at 1024px wide I will probably have to hide the "last posts" section
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21:34 <animuson> if u set a ban time to 0 will it be permanent?
21:34 <joda_bot> epsy: can you show me the page ?
21:34 <epsy> no, it will end up right now
21:34 <epsy> joda_bot, no :)
21:34 <epsy> or, when it's done
21:34 <Vanhayes> animuson, set it really high if you want it permanent
21:34 <epsy> yeah
21:34 <animuson> thats all u can do?
21:34 <joda_bot> epsy: heh ok, then I won't interfere with your designs :-)
21:34 <epsy> 1000000 would be serval years
21:35 <Vanhayes> well, as good as permanent anyways
21:35 <joda_bot> how about ban -1 :D
21:35 <epsy> bans them until one minute ago
21:35 <joda_bot> hmpf really ?
21:35 <epsy> or just makes a smart-ass comment
21:36 <joda_bot> I'd atleast want a smart ass comment if it's not forcefully converted to MAX_UINT :-)
21:36 <Vanhayes> go for 1 million or so, its about a ten year ban
21:36 <joda_bot> ban 1e06 :-)
21:36 <epsy> hah
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21:54 <Durka> quick server question
21:54 <Durka> can anyone help me?
21:54 <Vanhayes> ask and see
21:55 <Vanhayes> epsy, and joda_bot were kicking around not too long ago
21:56  * joda_bot is here (trying to hide)
21:57 <Durka> what is a good value to set DEDICATED_IDLE to?
21:57 <Durka> would 2 be too low?
21:57 <joda_bot> Durka if you have a looping script I guess 4-8h is ok ...
21:58 <joda_bot> hm, you can also use 2h
21:58 <Durka> it means the server restarts after that much time of idleness right?
21:58 <joda_bot> the server will just restart every 2h even if noone is on it
21:58 <Durka> yea
21:58 <joda_bot> if possible yes
21:58 <Durka> so i'll do like 12 hours?
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21:58 <Durka> whats reasonable
21:58 <joda_bot> it won't restart with players playing
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21:59 <joda_bot> reasonable is anything that works from 48h (if you've got no bugs :-P) to 10min ...
21:59 <joda_bot> I guess try 4h and reduce it if you still see problems
22:01 <epsy> vroom
22:01 <epsy> Well, I suppose it's graphics time for me
22:02 <epsy> boooh :'-(
22:03 <Durka> .m smoothice Espresso looks nice :D
22:03 <tronner> Durka: The operation succeeded.
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22:15 <nsh22> hello
22:29 <Vanhayes> hio
22:33  * akira_arma is  a tired bunny
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22:45 <epsy> bunni!
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22:49 <nsh22> I GOTS A NEW CAMCORDER YAY!
22:50 <epsy> camcorder?
22:54 <nsh22> camera...
22:54 <nsh22> video camera*
22:54 <epsy> ah
22:54 <epsy> specs?
22:54 <nsh22> cannon fs100
22:55 <nsh22> its hd
22:55 <epsy> I said specs not brand
22:55 <nsh22> uses hdsc
22:55 <nsh22> ook
22:55 <nsh22> i havent opened the anual yet...
22:55 <nsh22> manual*
22:56 <epsy> you .. haven't opened the anal manual yet?
22:56 <nsh22> no, and i never plan to :P
22:56 <epsy> well, you know what res it is?
22:56 <nsh22> yeah
22:56 <epsy> annnnd it isss ?
22:56 <nsh22> @gtfy nsh22  cannon fs100
22:56 <nsh22> im searching
22:56 <teabot> nsh22: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=cannon%20fs100
22:57 <epsy> lol you bought it blindly?
22:57 <Vanhayes> HD cant do slow mo
22:57 <epsy> also it's canon not cannon
22:57 <epsy> :o)
22:57 <epsy> Digital Video
22:57 <epsy> Standard Definition or High Definition
22:57 <epsy> 	Standard Definition
22:58 <Vanhayes> how much did it cost nsh22 ?
22:58 <nsh22> after al the stuff was bought, about 500
22:59 <nsh22> 399 for the camera itself (and charger, battery etc). hdsc cards extra and extra warenty
23:00 <nsh22> plus, i needed a stupid voltage converter cus the french are tards and use 240v and different plugs
23:00  * nsh22 glares at epsy
23:00 <nsh22> :P
23:00 <epsy> so does all the europe
23:00 <epsy> and so should it be
23:00 <Vanhayes> the europe is wrong
23:00 <nsh22> Total Pixels
23:00 <nsh22>  Approx. 1,070,000 pixels
23:00 <nsh22>  
23:00 <nsh22> Effective Pixels
23:00 <nsh22>  Movies:
23:00 <nsh22> 16:9 - approx. 550,000 pixels (ADV.Z off)
23:00 <nsh22> 16:9 - approx. 710,000 pixels (ADV.Z on, wide)
23:00 <nsh22> 16:9 - approx. 410,000 pixels (ADV.Z on tele)
23:01 <nsh22> Photos: approx. 800,000 pixels
23:01 <epsy> at 110V if you electrocute yourself you simply get paralyzed
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23:01 <nsh22>  
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23:01 <epsy> at 240V you at least will shock away
23:01 <epsy> but better don't electrocute yourself
23:01 <nsh22> lol
23:01 <Vanhayes> id rather be dead then paralized
23:01 <nsh22> Zoom Ratio 48x Advanced Zoom (16:9)
23:01 <nsh22> 37x Optical/2000x Digital
23:01 <Durka> does anyone wanna try my server?
23:01 <epsy> nice!
23:01 <Durka> :\
23:01 <Durka> .si physics
23:01 <tronner> Durka: .:] Twisted Rats [:. CTF w/ Fortress Physics: Players (0/32):
23:02 <Durka> i finally fixed it
23:02 <epsy> also 1 megapixel means simply 1 000 000 px ?
23:02 <joda_bot> Durka low rubber ?
23:02 <Vanhayes> sure durka
23:02 <Durka> yea
23:02 <epsy> joda_bot, it's just like fort
23:02 <epsy> with added awesomenesss
23:02 <Vanhayes> fort can always use more awsome
23:03 <Durka> epsy: i've redesigned it
23:03 <Vanhayes> awesome*
23:03 <Durka> no stupid back entrances
23:03 <epsy> ah, then um
23:03 <joda_bot> epsy: might be fort setting with higher rubber :-P
23:03 <Durka> except, new sides ones :p
23:03 <epsy> it's crap then
23:03 <Durka> .si physics
23:03 <tronner> Durka: .:] Twisted Rats [:. CTF w/ Fortress Physics: Players (0/32):
23:03 <epsy> I wanna see the vast & furious for arma
23:03 <Durka> er am i in the wrong server oO
23:03 <epsy> fail
23:04 <Durka> o
23:04 <Durka> there they are!
23:04 <Vanhayes> .si physics
23:04 <tronner> Vanhayes: .:] Twisted Rats [:. CTF w/ Fortress Physics: Players (1/32): Durka (DDMJ@forums)
23:04 <nsh22> epsy: yeah
23:04 <Durka> join!!!
23:04 <epsy> does 1 megapixel simply mean 1 000 000 px ?
23:04 <Durka> .si physics
23:04 <tronner> Durka: .:] Twisted Rats [:. CTF w/ Fortress Physics: Players (1/32): Durka (DDMJ@forums)
23:05 <nsh22> epsy: yeah
23:05 <guru3> megapixels are in pixels squared
23:05 <epsy> nsh22, so it does less than 1MP? can't really believe that
23:05 <nsh22> ..no
23:06 <nsh22> it does 1.07
23:06 <epsy> errr
23:06 <epsy> only ? O_o
23:06 <nsh22> yeah...
23:06 <epsy> well, at least it has the awesome zoom
23:06 <epsy> and SDHC cards slot :-)
23:07 <nsh22> yeah, and image stabilizer
23:07 <epsy>  Weight (not including lens and battery pack)
23:07 <epsy> 	9.2 oz (260 g)
23:07 <epsy> lol, they are funny
23:07 <nsh22> it has a remote as well :P
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23:07 <epsy> heh, useful
23:09 <epsy> btw
23:09 <epsy> don't believe them when they say it's up to 8GB only
23:10 <nsh22> lol
23:10 <epsy> it will pretty much accept anything
23:10 <nsh22> lol yeah
23:10 <epsy> it was the same for the n95
23:10 <nsh22> i got 2 8gb cards for my trip to france :P
23:10 <epsy> on the spec page it reads 2GB max
23:10 <nsh22> rly? lol
23:11 <epsy> yeah, it was whatever came before SDHC
23:11 <epsy> you know what's different between the two?
23:11 <epsy> filesystem
23:11 <epsy> really
23:11 <epsy> one has fat16
23:11 <epsy> the other, uhm, fat32 ..
23:11 <epsy> it was just a matter of a little software update
23:11 <nsh22> Maximum recording time
23:11 <nsh22>  8GB SDHC Memory Card (not supplied)
23:11 <nsh22> LP (3 Mbps): 5 hours, 10 minutes
23:11 <nsh22> SP (6 Mbps): 2 hours, 45 minutes
23:11 <nsh22> XP (9 Mbps): 1 hour, 50 minutes
23:11 <nsh22> Greater recording time is possible by adding an SDHC Memory Card.
23:12 <nsh22>  
23:12 <epsy> I have the page oipen here as well
23:12 <nsh22> lol
23:12 <epsy> so new I could put in a 32GB card if I wanted
23:12 <epsy> now*
23:12 <epsy> only problem is that nokia maps seems to be stuck on 2GB
23:12 <nsh22> lol
23:12 <epsy> so I can't load whole europe or w/e
23:13 <nsh22> haha
23:13 <epsy> :|
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23:13 <epsy> that was fatal when making my trip to germany
23:13 <epsy> "o shit I forgot to load germany"
23:14 <akira_arma> why did you want to make a trip to germany?
23:14 <epsy> it's not like I would then download them from mobile internet
23:15 <epsy> because I love weird languages
23:15 <nsh22> lmao
23:15 <epsy> from a foreign country
23:15 <epsy> you guess the cost
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23:16 <Durka> .si phys
23:16 <tronner> Durka: .:] Twisted Rats [:. CTF w/ Fortress Physics: Players (6/32): -IDt< MommA, Corn, Durka (DDMJ@forums), free kill (dlh@generalconsumption.org), joda.bot, Mågñïe
23:21 <epsy> @x
23:21 <teabot> epsy: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “¦×¦.” at the moment, sorry.
23:22 <joda_bot> .si phys
23:22 <nsh22> wow i love this camera, im just using for the first time
23:23 <epsy> @x
23:23 <teabot> epsy: ¦×¦.Team.Sumo.Server: Players (0/18):
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23:32  * fonkay is mad at Thinkgeek.com
23:34 <nsh22> thats sick, my camera has a light :P
23:35 <epsy> ?
23:35 <epsy> you mean flash?
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23:37 <nsh22> no, it has a little light on the end of it for recording in the dark
23:38 <nsh22> and stereo microphones
23:40 <epsy> so does my phone
23:40 <epsy> but the light it makes doesn't make it to the other side of the room
23:40 <epsy> and blooms anyone in view, though
23:40 <epsy> :x
23:42 <PinkTomato> nsh22: you imported it from Europe?
23:42 <nsh22> PinkTomato: no
23:42 <PinkTomato> Then why do you need a transformer?
23:42 <nsh22> cuz im going to france to stalk epsy soon :P
23:43 <joda_bot> epsy: he already got a cam ... hide
23:43 <PinkTomato> Some chargers accept 100-240V input
23:43 <epsy> it has 5 megapixels :P
23:43 <nsh22> yeah, but better safe than sorry :P
23:43 <epsy> yeah, better safe than sorry
23:43 <nsh22> epsy:  what does?
23:44 <epsy> my phone's camera
23:44 <nsh22> ...
23:44 <PinkTomato> My phone camera has 1 Megapixel,
23:44 <epsy> don't worry, it zooms like shit
23:44 <PinkTomato> I bought it ysterday
23:44 <nsh22> howq does your phone have more egapixels than my camera?
23:44 <epsy> it doesn't do optical zoom anyway
23:44 <PinkTomato> nsh22: because yours does moving video
23:44 <epsy> I wonder, that's why I was so suspicious about your cam's res
23:44 <epsy> PinkTomato, mine does as well
23:44 <joda_bot> my phone can shoot fisheyed photos with 240x150 pixels
23:45 <epsy> I mean, well, it has stabilisation & co as well
23:45 <PinkTomato> epsy: at 5 Megapixles though O_o?
23:46 <PinkTomato> Oh wait, I see it would record at PAL/NTSC res
23:46 <PinkTomato> unless it can do HD?
23:47 <epsy> PinkTomato, gotta check
23:47 <nsh22> i THOUGHT mine was hd, ut it isnt, oh well
23:47 <epsy> PinkTomato, they say DVD quality
23:49 <nsh22> isit normal to have it make very small, techie noises (lie you would hear in like scifi movies?) when they zomm?
23:49 <epsy> unless when it's digital zoom..
23:49 <epsy> it's normal
23:49 <nsh22> ok
23:49 <nsh22> lol
23:49 <PinkTomato> epsy: ah I see
23:49 <PinkTomato> nsh22: 640*480 =
23:49 <nsh22> ???
23:49 <PinkTomato> 0.3 Megapixels
23:50 <epsy> gr, the gallery doesn't say what res it is
23:50 <PinkTomato> It says your camcorder records at 1,00,
23:50 <PinkTomato> at 1Mp*
23:50 <nsh22> it does
23:51 <PinkTomato> nsh22: 720*1280 =
23:51 <PinkTomato> 0.92 etc
23:51 <nsh22> 921600
23:51 <PinkTomato> so it is HD? 720p mode
23:51 <PinkTomato> at least
23:51 <nsh22> no i dont think so
23:52 <epsy> VIDEO:  [mp4v]  640x480  24bpp  30000.000 fps    0.0 kbps ( 0.0 kbyte/s)
23:52 <epsy> don't know wtf is with fps
23:52 <nsh22> frames per second?
23:52 <epsy> yes
23:53 <epsy> mp4v doesn't handle variable fps does it?
23:53 <PinkTomato> nsh22: "  The DIGIC DV II Image Processor designed specifically for HD, combined with a 1.07 Megapixel CCD image sensor provides users with Image Stabilization and sharper, clearer images and ensures optimal image quality."
23:53 <PinkTomato> Or it is upscaling
23:53 <nsh22> thats for mine?
23:53 <PinkTomato> Sounds like native 720p though
23:53 <PinkTomato> yes :)
23:54 <nsh22> yay
23:54 <nsh22> and i got the really good sdhc cards
23:54 <nsh22> 8gb 60x speed :P
23:54 <PinkTomato> 8GB I hope
23:54 <nsh22> ^
23:54 <PinkTomato> ^_^
23:55 <nsh22> Standard Definition or High Definition
23:55 <nsh22>  Standard Definition
23:55 <nsh22>  
23:55 <nsh22> ....
23:59 <PinkTomato> nsh22: it's not 1080p :)
23:59 <PinkTomato> nsh22: source?
23:59 <nsh22> http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&fcategoryid=2544&modelid=16185#ModelDetailAct

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00:04 <PinkTomato> usa? :P
00:04 <nsh22> it was the first google so...
00:05 <PinkTomato> ok well it seems I am corrected, It has a 1 MP sensor which it never uses to its fullest
00:06 <nsh22> o0
00:06 <nsh22> good or bad?
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00:35 <nsh22> ho hum...
00:41 <PinkTomato> ho hum
00:42 <PinkTomato> its off to work
00:42 <PinkTomato> we go
00:43 <nsh22> work ftl
00:44 <nsh22> luke-jr: can i copy your ToS for my servers (obviously ill modify it alittle)
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01:22 <nsh22> JOIN #earthhour IF YOU ARE ARTICIPATING (or even if your not)
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01:27 <luke-jr> haha, my dad's using 195 amps for the hour ☺
01:29 <epsy> lol..
01:29 <epsy> why so?
01:30 <luke-jr> it's "use as much electricity as possible" hour
01:30 <luke-jr> on US east coast
01:30 <epsy> why? :P
01:30 <nsh22> cuz they are douches :P
01:30 <Vanhayes> earth hour is over
01:30 <nsh22> idc, join my channel anyway
01:30 <Vanhayes> here anyways
01:31 <Vanhayes> luke-jr, you hate the earth dont you
01:31 <luke-jr> nope
01:31 <luke-jr> just environmentalist wackos
01:32 <luke-jr> and propagators of the global warming myth
01:32 <Vanhayes> ya i hate wackos too
01:33 <luke-jr> gotta make up for the electricity they won't be using
01:33 <Vanhayes> so, you are going to use more energy, which you pay for, and they are using less? way to show em
01:34 <luke-jr> HAHA, my dad blew the circuit breaker
01:34 <luke-jr> now he's using 0
01:34 <nsh22> lol why is your dad doing this?
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01:35 <nsh22> SMOOTH!
01:35 <luke-jr> nsh22: to counter the wackos
01:36 <nsh22> #earthhour
01:36 <Vanhayes> fighting fire with fire
01:36 <luke-jr> smoothice: you're middle US?
01:44 <nsh22> luke-jr: can i copy your ToS for my servers (obviously ill modify it alittle)
01:47 <smoothice> luke-jr: yes
01:48 <smoothice> .later tell Durka Except I was just told that it's buggy as heck and not that good yet. It is a 1.0 though... so you have to cut the devs some slack. If it gets unlocked I'll install it for sure still
01:48 <tronner> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
01:48 <smoothice> luke-jr: yeah.... why?
01:49 <Vanhayes> he wants you to hate earth with him
01:50 <smoothice> I love earth
01:50 <smoothice> I'm doing earth hour
01:50 <Vanhayes> he does the oppisite
01:50 <smoothice> luke-jr: You must be a conservative freak
01:50 <smoothice> luke-jr: And you probably voted for McCain... go live a hole dude
01:51 <smoothice> luke-jr: And you probably drive a car with less than 12 mpg... -.-
01:52 <Vanhayes> wow, that was harsher than I expected
01:54 <smoothice> Vanhayes: I'm big on sustainability. Now you know...
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01:59 <luke-jr> ]later tell smoothice I didn't vote at all, but if I had time I would have voted for Obama. kthx
01:59 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
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03:00 <luke-jr> ]later tell smoothice and yes, I'm conserative; liberalism is a sin and pure evil after all
03:00 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
03:00 <luke-jr> ]later tell smoothice but I'm not ignorant enough to think using electricity is a bad thing
03:00 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
03:02 <Vanhayes> shouldnt conservatives want to save electricity?
03:02 <epsy> luke-jr, FAIL @ [03:34] <luke-jr>: HAHA, my dad blew the circuit breaker
03:02 <luke-jr> epsy: easy to reset
03:02 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: sure, in the long run; more electricity saved is cheaper
03:03 <luke-jr> but when people are going to think saving electricity = support for wackos, all the reason to use as much as possible
03:03 <Vanhayes> anyways, i dont think turning off all your lights for an hour a year is gonna do much, just cut back the whole year
03:03 <epsy> nighty
03:03 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: the big problem is the government-run stuff
03:03 <luke-jr> turnign off
03:04  * luke-jr wonders if a plane will crash due to not having the lights on
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03:04 <nsh22> is it normal to have 2 iexplore.exe processes at the same time?
03:04 <luke-jr> I hear they turned them off at the Eiffel Tower at least
03:04 <luke-jr> nsh22: no
03:04 <luke-jr> it is not normal to have any processes ending in .exe
03:04 <luke-jr> >:D
03:05 <epsy> nsh22, not sure
03:05 <epsy> nsh22, anyway, it's the same binary
03:05 <nsh22> how would i get my taskbar back, it disapeared
03:05 <epsy> explorer.exe
03:05 <epsy> (start it)
03:06 <nsh22> yay
03:06 <Vanhayes> shouldnt end explorer.exe
03:06 <epsy> it's amazing how windows will not thread as different two binaries that have the same filename
03:06 <epsy> threat *
03:06 <epsy> I haven't tried but ..
03:07 <epsy> imagine evil user puts up a program called "angel.exe" and runs it in the background
03:07 <epsy> then admin comes around and makes his daily routine
03:07 <epsy> which includes running angel.exe
03:07 <epsy> boom
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03:10 <epsy> again, not sure if it works over multiple users
03:10 <epsy> but well, that's pretty ridiculous
03:13 <epsy> nighty
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03:34 <Durka> hey
03:34 <Durka> what happens when I set DEDICATED_IDLE to 0
03:34 <Durka> or -1?
03:34 <Durka> .m smoothice same
03:34 <tronner> Durka: The operation succeeded.
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03:39 <dlh> Durka: Nothing. Anything 0 or less turns off DEDICATED_IDLE.
03:40 <Durka> ok
03:40 <Durka> I set it to0
03:40 <Durka> cuz my servers dont restart :p
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03:40 <Durka> which isnt good :S
03:44 <Durka> hey dlh: should I set cycle_rubber_wall_shrink to?
03:44 <Durka> walls_length is 250
03:44 <Durka> right now its at 0.75
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04:35 <ivantis2> hey Pathetique
04:36 <Pathetique> hey
04:36 <Pathetique> ct|kyle: I'm sure you got my message? :P
04:39 <ivantis2> (the real) armabot was lastseen 1 week, four days ago
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04:44 <armabot> hmm, you could screw with some people by doing this
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04:52 <dlh> armabot is registered, so you won't stay known as armabot for long unless you log in.
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05:38 <ct|kyle> Pathetique: pong?
05:38 <Pathetique> ping
05:38 <ct|kyle> I've been gone all day :P
05:38 <Pathetique> I see.
05:38 <Pathetique> Did you get my message from tronner earlier?
05:39 <ct|kyle> ya
05:39 <Pathetique> :P
05:39 <Pathetique> I had to devote like
05:39 <ct|kyle> what whitespace?
05:39 <Pathetique> All the spaces and empty lines
05:39 <Pathetique> you know                       all that
05:39 <Pathetique> eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeempty                                                 shit
05:40 <Pathetique> It looked pretty, but was impractical.
05:41 <Pathetique> I devoted 15 minutes to make it work.
05:41 <ct|kyle> Pathetique: where are you talking :P
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10:34 <mkzelda> http://www.kctv5.com/news/18974919/detail.html
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12:50 <P4> .tell DDMJ http://42.pl/u/1AyS ← Your site lags :þ
12:50 <tronner> P4: The operation succeeded.
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12:57 <epsy> no it doesn't ?
12:57 <epsy> sigh >.>
12:58 <epsy> if you didn't hide the URL we could be avoiding DDoS'ing his server..
13:00 <epsy> anyway, any perl fan around?
13:01 <epsy> bbl
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17:32 <Rajinn> Does anyone have a link to the alpha builds?  I can't find them on AA beta or sourceforge :(
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17:34 <Rajinn> epsy, can you link me to the alpha builds?  I cant find em on AAbeta or sourceforge
17:35 <Rajinn> Version: 0.2.8_alpha20081221 preferably that one
17:35 <epsy> you want beta3?
17:35 <Rajinn> no, i already have that
17:35 <Rajinn> i want to see if my servers freeze with a different version
17:36 <epsy> it should be archived on aabeta
17:36 <Rajinn> i am doing a test on them, my beta3 sumo server has a weird, random freeze every now and then
17:36 <Rajinn> i couldn't find it anywhere, aa beta is complicated to me.  i like sourceforge, but in the "Browse all packages" alpha versions arent a part of it
17:37 <epsy> I presume you run your servers on windows?
17:38 <Rajinn> linux
17:38 <epsy> better compile it yourself then
17:38 <Rajinn> i will if i had the source
17:38 <Rajinn> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Running_Multiple_Servers_on_a_single_Linux_computer
17:38 <Rajinn> thats how i make my servers
17:41 <epsy> why that build and not beta2?
17:41 <Rajinn> because that server doesnt have a weird freeze in it
17:42 <Rajinn> ill try a later version of 2.8
17:42 <Rajinn> gtg to work now tho, pz
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17:42 <epsy> so it's between beta2 and beta3
17:43 <epsy> holy shit we have 73 branches linked to the project
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18:26 <epsy> uuuh
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18:28 <epsy> luke-jr, can you help me with some perl?
18:28 <epsy> http://pastebin.ca/1375844
18:28 <epsy> couldn't find filename:  at /usr/share/perl5/site_perl/5.10.0/TypefaceJS.pm line 90.
18:28 <epsy> It gives me that error
18:28 <epsy> line 90 being the "die" line
18:37 <epsy> nevermind
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18:54 <ivantis> .
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19:34 <z-man> Humm, any idea what could have a frequency of once in 130 seconds?
19:34  * z-man gets lag spikes with that frequency.
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20:03 <luke-jr> Manuel Moos (z-man) has accepted the invitation to make Armagetron
20:03 <luke-jr> Advanced Developers (armagetronad-dev) a member of Armagetron Advanced
20:03 <luke-jr> Website Developers (armagetronad-web).
20:04 <luke-jr> z-man: was that specifically to me for some reason?
20:04 <z-man> No.
20:10 <ct|kyle> z-man: how should I go about implementing a chat filter.  something like command FILTER_WORD <Word or saying> <filtered word or saying>
20:10 <z-man> I have one implemented, just not for tron.
20:10 <z-man> I'm against filtering generally because it simply does not work.
20:11 <z-man> Though I must say replacing 'fuck' with 'smeg' every time is quite funny :)
20:13 <ct|kyle> I'm thinking it would work a bit for Destiny, at least she would now be able to filter out some of the words
20:13 <z-man> Yeah, but as soon as you filter, people get creative.
20:14 <ct|kyle> you just add their  creativeness into the filters
20:17 <sinewav> trying to get some fort players to play me team in Plus+ fortress.
20:17 <epsy> use something similar to what's in the server browser
20:19 <ct|kyle> for the fitering, I'm just not sure how to read in all the filters
20:21 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: it's an arms race
20:25 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: poke
20:26 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: you should merge lp:~luke-jr/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct and put up a notice not to merge from lp:armagetronad/0.2.8 anymore
20:27 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: why?
20:27 <luke-jr> because lp:armagetronad/0.2.8 isn't really sty+ct's parent branch
20:27 <luke-jr> sty+ct is based on sty
20:28 <ct|kyle> I was just merging it with 0.2.8
20:28 <luke-jr> that's the problem
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20:34 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: you should be merging it with 0.2.8-sty
20:36 <ct|kyle> did you merge in the modifications for eChat?
20:36 <luke-jr> wtf?
20:36 <ct|kyle> well the chat part of ePlayer at the time
20:36 <luke-jr> O.o?
20:38 <ct|kyle> I have to check it out
20:38 <ct|kyle> not enough time though
20:38 <luke-jr> how is that related to the topic of getting sty+ct back on sync?
20:39 <ct|kyle> technically I think when voodoo put in on bzr he forked it from 0.2.8
20:40 <luke-jr> voodoo's last merge was with 0.2.8-sty ;)
20:40 <luke-jr> either way, I fixed it in my branch
20:40 <luke-jr> so it merges from 0.2.8-sty again
20:47 <ct|kyle> I'll look at it later luke-jr, I'm not sure about merges 664 and 665
20:47 <luke-jr> ?
20:49 <ct|kyle> in fact your last merge (665) duplicates lines
20:49 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~luke-jr/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct/revision/665
20:50 <luke-jr> hmm
20:50 <luke-jr> that would eb a problem
20:51 <luke-jr> stupid weave merge is so unreliable
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21:17 <epsy> @tea
21:17 <teabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
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21:43 <guru3> what a time for firefox to break on my desktop :/
21:50 <guru3> ah, got that back
21:51 <joda_bot> gn8 :-)
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21:53 <guru3> maybe, just maybe, running rm -rf ./* is a bad idea
21:55 <z-man> You can't upgrade the forums while I'm posting!
21:56 <guru3> errr sorry :/
21:56 <guru3> bit late now though
21:58 <guru3> i would have done it earlier
21:58 <guru3> but bits of my desktop broke
21:58 <luke-jr> ROFL
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22:02 <epsy> uhhh
22:03 <luke-jr> ROFL @ z-man posting while guru3 upgrades
22:03 <luke-jr> not guru3's loss
22:03 <luke-jr> :<
22:03 <guru3> oh i meant software wise
22:03 <guru3> upgraded to firefox 3 and all hell went loose
22:03 <luke-jr> o
22:03 <luke-jr> heh
22:04 <epsy> use opera/konqueror
22:04 <luke-jr> I'm tempted to remove firefox
22:04 <luke-jr> I only installed it cuz 3.1 was supposed to have Qt4 support
22:04 <epsy> anyone for a fort game?
22:05 <luke-jr> I found a pedo on my map of legit churches :<
22:05  * luke-jr changes his icon to a fire warning
22:09 <guru3> well
22:09 <guru3> here's hoping nothing screws up
22:10  * guru3 twiddles thumbs
22:11 <epsy> 2 deats in 6 mins :o :(
22:11 <epsy> deaths
22:11 <guru3> hey that's what i could do
22:11 <guru3> i could play some tron while this goes
22:11 <epsy> @tea
22:12 <teabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (1/32): epsy¦×¦
22:12 <guru3> and we really need to strip the leading spaces from servernames
22:24 <epsy> gg :)
22:26 <guru3> gargh this conversion went perfectly when i did it locally
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22:29 <nsh22> herro
22:31 <luke-jr> guru3: I think epsy already dealt with the servernames with spaces
22:31 <guru3> yeah he mentioned that
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22:57 <guru3> oh fiddlesticks
22:58 <nsh22> what?
22:58 <guru3> just realized that this upgrade pay put @forums out of business for a few days
22:58 <nsh22> upgrade pay?
22:59 <guru3> may
22:59 <nsh22> which upgrade>
22:59 <guru3> the upgrade of the forums
23:01 <fonkay> I just notice this as well.
23:03 <nsh22> when are you upgrading the forums?
23:03 <fonkay> too late
23:03 <guru3> today
23:03 <nsh22> These forums have been temporarily disabled. Please try again later.
23:03 <fonkay> "These forums have been temporarily disabled. Please try again later."
23:03 <nsh22> :(
23:04 <guru3> i gave notice 5 days ago
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23:04 <nsh22> ah
23:04 <fonkay> notice that they would be down?
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23:04 <epsy> hi Durka
23:05 <guru3> yes
23:05 <guru3> i said i would run the ugprade today
23:05 <Durka> hi pepsy
23:05 <guru3> downtime was meant to be implicity
23:05 <epsy> Durka, You got a message!
23:05 <Durka> where?
23:05 <epsy> one of the bots
23:05 <Durka> .hello
23:05 <tronner> Hello :) [q]
23:05 <Durka> @hello
23:05 <epsy> it should already have PM'd you
23:06 <Durka> nope
23:06 <Durka> si. . sumo
23:06 <Durka> .si . sumo
23:06 <tronner> Durka: .:] Twisted Rats [:. Sumo: Players (6/32): -=}ID< VèñÐ�, -|Acid, Brok3n, DArk, `Ww RaPiDo, ~|Haunt
23:06 -!- MaZuffeR [n=mazuffer@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has quit ["Ex-Chat"]
23:06 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Ttech, Ttech[daedalus], teabot
23:07 <fonkay> Thinkgeek is being evil. ugh
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23:08 <Durka> epsy: what'd u send me?
23:10 <epsy> nothing
23:10 <epsy> [13:50] <P4>: .tell DDMJ http://42.pl/u/1AyS ← Your site lags :þ
23:10 <epsy> .notes DDMJ
23:10 <tronner> epsy: Sent 10 hours and 20 minutes ago: <P4> http://42.pl/u/1AyS ← Your site lags :þ
23:11 <epsy> people other than durka: DO NOT CLICK
23:11 <nsh22> why not?
23:11 <epsy> because I said so
23:12  * nsh22 clicks the link
23:12 <nsh22> PORN!!!!!!!!
23:12 <Durka> yea no shit
23:12 <epsy> Durka, better put some kind of limit
23:12 <nsh22> lol i didnt click it....
23:12 <Durka> .tell P4 no shit...ur not supposed to do that
23:12 <tronner> Durka: The operation succeeded.
23:12 <Durka> yea i will lol
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23:23 <epsy> guru3, how is it going?
23:24 <guru3> indexing for search
23:24 <epsy> ah good
23:24 <epsy> is it impossible to have readonly access still?
23:24 <guru3> yes
23:24 <guru3> need to also reorganize the forums
23:24 <epsy> duh
23:24 <guru3> the upgrade put things in wrong places
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23:52 <pavelo> this game sucks, I'm going home
23:52 <pavelo> Warning in void FindConfigurationPath() in tools/tDirectories.cpp:1551 :
23:52 <pavelo>  	Could not determine path to configuration files. Using defaults or command line arguments.
23:52 <pavelo> Internal Error: Internal error in static tLanguage* tLanguage::FindStrict(const tString&) in tools/tLocale.cpp:177 :
23:52 <pavelo>  	Language British English not found.
23:52 <pavelo> Please send a Bug report!
23:52 <pavelo> however, it works fine if i run it from the source directory

Log from 2009-03-30:
--- Day changed Mon Mar 30 2009
00:00 <ivantis> Whatever happened to hoop?
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00:11 <guru3> forums are upgraded
00:11 <guru3> let the games begin
00:14 <nsh22> GAMES!!!!
00:15 <nsh22> ummm, whats so different?
00:15 <guru3> muahaha
00:15 <guru3> that's the point!
00:16 <nsh22> ???
00:16 -!- armabuilder [n=armabuil@24.174.24.234] has joined #armagetron
00:16 <nsh22> can u explain wat the upgrade did?
00:16 <guru3> no
00:17 <nsh22> and why is it forums3 ?
00:18 <guru3> if you can't guess why it's not important
00:18 <nsh22> ...
00:18 <nsh22> is it now phpbb3?
00:19 <guru3> there you go
00:19 <nsh22> :P
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00:20 <Lucifer> #ping
00:20 <Lucifer> .ping
00:20 <tronner> pong
00:21 <nsh22> Lucifer: how did your fireball juggling go?
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00:22 <Lucifer> ]ping
00:22 <ljrbot> pong
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00:22 <nsh22> okk well that was homosexual
00:22 <epsy> finally you changed font
00:23 <epsy> sounds smoother
00:24 <Lucifer> ]ping
00:24 <Lucifer> .ping
00:24 <Lucifer> hello hello (hello) is there anybody out there?
00:24 <tronner> pong
00:24 <ljrbot> pong
00:24 <epsy> hi ljrbot
00:24 <epsy> er
00:24 <epsy> Lucifer,
00:25 <nsh22> Lucifer: how did the jugling go?
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00:26 <Lucifer> wtf?
00:26 <Lucifer> .ping
00:26 <tronner> pong
00:26 <nsh22> the fireball juggling?
00:27 <Lucifer> it didn't, the fuel I bought and the ball I made didn't work too well
00:27 <Lucifer> it was too hot to pick up
00:27 <Lucifer> or I was too scared, one of the two
00:27 <Lucifer> .ping
00:27 <tronner> pong
00:27 <nsh22> lol
00:27 <nsh22> why are you pinging so much?
00:27 <Lucifer> borrowing a neighbor's wifi, heh
00:27 <Lucifer> I just moved into my sister's house again
00:27 <Lucifer> don't yet have
00:27 <Lucifer> er
00:28 <Lucifer> don't yet have access to my sister's wifi, it's encrypted and I haven't got a key just yet
00:28 <nsh22> "borrowing"? lol
00:28 <Lucifer> anyway, gotta move on and do some stuff, I was just checking my email, since my computer was down for a couple of days
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00:28 <nsh22> oh ok, bb
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00:31 <nsh22> hey, could i take knowledge of java programming language and use it for arma?
00:33 <epsy> you mean for C++ ?
00:34 <nsh22> yeah
00:34 <nsh22> like, how similar are they? (structure wise)
00:36 <epsy> never coded with java
00:36 <epsy> ask ct|kyle
00:37 <epsy> good night
00:37 <nsh22> night
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00:42 <nsh22> Lucifer: / guru3 : i wonder what ytour planning for wednesday....
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00:42 <Your_mom_arma> #ping
00:42 <Your_mom_arma> armabots not here :(
00:42 <nsh22> she ran away a long time ago
00:43  * nsh22 glares at wrtlprnft 
00:43 <Pathetique> A simple glance at the member list can solve that question, Your_mom_arma. ;)
00:44 <Your_mom_arma> clearly
00:54 <Vanhayes> <luke-jr> I found a pedo on my map of legit churches :<
00:54 <Vanhayes> wtf luke-jr ?
00:54 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: what?
00:54 <Vanhayes> does that sound like it think it does?
00:54 <luke-jr> no idea wtf you're thinking
00:55 <luke-jr> I have a map/db of legit churches
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00:55 <luke-jr> upon further research, I found one of them was a pedo
00:55 <luke-jr> so I turned it into a warning
00:55 <Vanhayes> there was apedo church?
00:55 <luke-jr> pedo "priest" anyhow
00:56 <nsh22> how do you know that he/she is a pedo?
00:56 <luke-jr> stumbled upon a news article
00:56 <Vanhayes> and they are still a priest?
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00:57 <luke-jr> once a priest, always a priest
00:57 <luke-jr> whether this particular person is in fact a priest ever, I don't know
00:58 <Vanhayes> practising priest then
00:58 <luke-jr> apparently he hasn't stopped
00:58 <luke-jr> though I don't know of any affiliations he has
00:58 <luke-jr> maybe none
00:59 <Vanhayes> thats messed up
00:59 <Corn1> pedos can worship too.
00:59 <luke-jr> pedos should not be in positions of authority
00:59 <Vanhayes> exactly
00:59 <Vanhayes> and im pretty sure they have to tell people they were convicted of it
01:00 <Corn1> Ever since seperation of church and state being a priest doesn't really mean anything
01:00 <Corn1> even if your a pedo
01:00 <nsh22> i dont get how someone who is deeply intertwined with god and the connection between god and his creations can be a pedo, but it happens....
01:01 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: oh, this guy's news was a settlement
01:01 <luke-jr> so probably no conviction
01:01 <Vanhayes> ugh
01:01 <luke-jr> nsh22: it's called fraud
01:01 <luke-jr> plenty of frauds out there
01:01 <Corn1> well there is all that controversy about catholic priests being child molestors
01:01 <luke-jr> they just pretend to serve God
01:02 <luke-jr> Corn1: child molesters are automatically non-Catholic
01:02 <Corn1> but instead they're serving their dicks
01:02 <nsh22> so all pedos who become preists are frauds?
01:03 <luke-jr> obviously
01:03 <Corn1> but yeah they probably have restrictions, and if they don't tell people themselves they at least have some sort of warning that the church gives out
01:03 <luke-jr> well, not frauds necessarily I suppose
01:03 <luke-jr> but it's ALMOST guaranteed IMO
01:03 <Your_mom_arma> luke-jr: the pope's a fraud?
01:03 <luke-jr> Your_mom_arma: which "pope"?
01:03 <Your_mom_arma> the current one
01:04 <luke-jr> which one?
01:04 <luke-jr> there's about 10 claimants
01:04 <Vanhayes> luke-jr thinks he isnt the real pope iirc
01:04 <nsh22> i heard the current pope (benedict) was a nazi
01:04 <luke-jr> nsh22: yeah, that one's epic fraud
01:04 <nsh22> luke-jr: how so?
01:04 <Corn1> What type of christianity are these pedo churches, luke
01:05 <luke-jr> Corn1: there is only one Christianity
01:05 <nsh22> @gtfy Corn1 jeff warrens
01:05 <teabot> Corn1: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=jeff%20warrens
01:05 <Corn1> episcipalian, catholic
01:05 <luke-jr> nsh22: he's not even Catholic
01:05 <nsh22> that guy is fucked
01:05 <nsh22> luke-jr: i know
01:05 <luke-jr> Corn1: episco is a heretical sect
01:05 <nsh22> but he was a supposed christian wasnt he?
01:05 <luke-jr> nsh22: I mean Benny 16
01:06 <nsh22> benny 16?
01:07 <Vanhayes> benedict the 16 im guessing
01:07 <Corn1> As far as i'm concerned being a pedophile doesnt have to do with your religion because you can worship something even if you're breaking the law.
01:07 <nsh22> hes not catholic?
01:07 <luke-jr> nope
01:08 <nsh22> ???
01:08 <nsh22> what is he?
01:08 <Your_mom_arma> xenu!!!
01:08 <luke-jr> a heresiarch
01:09 <Vanhayes> Corn1, ya but how spiritual can you be if you dont follow the rules of your god and whatnot
01:09 <Vanhayes> all hail Xenu
01:09 <luke-jr> Corn1: mortal sin generally excommunicated (= kicks out) someone from Catholicism
01:10 <luke-jr> excommunicates*
01:10 <Corn1> spiritual enough, because I don't agree with everything in my religion, but i agree with enough of it to practice it.
01:10 <Your_mom_arma> where's your all forgiving god now?
01:10 <luke-jr> Corn1: Catholicism isn't one of those false religions
01:10 <Corn1> if you get kicked out of your church its hard to say you're part of the religion if they were rightful in doing it tough
01:10 <luke-jr> Catholics are required to accept every doctrine
01:11 <Vanhayes> i dont think you should be able to pick and choose the "divine" rules you follow
01:11 <Corn1> I don't practice a so called false religion either
01:11 <luke-jr> all religions other than Catholicism are false
01:11 <nsh22> luke-jr: thats in your poininon
01:11 <luke-jr> nsh22: no, it is objective fact
01:11 <nsh22> opinion*
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01:12 <nsh22> luke-jr: muslims think that, jehovahs witnesses think that...
01:12 <luke-jr> nsh22: they are wrong
01:12 <luke-jr> they hold erroneous opinions
01:12 <Corn1> Well so do you
01:12 <Corn1> :D
01:12 <nsh22> luke-jr: they say the EXACT thing that you say, with the same arguments, people will defend what they beleive in, no matter what
01:13 <Your_mom_arma> even agnostics?
01:13 <Vanhayes> maybe
01:13 <Your_mom_arma> XD
01:13 <Corn1> agnostics are still part of a religion really
01:13 <Corn1> i wouldn't say athiests are though
01:13 <Vanhayes> possible
01:13 <Your_mom_arma> well played Vanhayes
01:14 <Vanhayes> heh, thanks
01:14 <Vanhayes> i guess id be considered agnostic
01:14 <Your_mom_arma> same
01:14 <Vanhayes> and I dont really think id call it a religion
01:15 <Vanhayes> Dont have to have a religion to believe in something
01:15 <sinewav> most of that depends on how you define religion
01:15 <Corn1> a religion is a specific kind of belief
01:15 <luke-jr> nsh22: the false religions don't hold up to logic
01:16 <nsh22> anyways, i g2g
01:16 <sinewav> bb
01:16 <luke-jr> brb, supper ready
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01:16 <Your_mom_arma> hey
01:16 <Corn1> enjoy your false meal
01:16 <sinewav> ha
01:16 <nsh22> and luke-jr , other religions think yours is ilogical as well (im neutral on religion myself, cosidering all to be valid beleifs of specific people)
01:17 <sinewav> well put neal
01:18 <Vanhayes> well the only way to prove your religion is to die, and you cant really tell anyone after that happens
01:18 <Corn1> well religion isnt only death
01:19 <Corn1> or rather what happens when you die
01:19 <Vanhayes> thats what im saying only the dead guys know who is right
01:20 <Your_mom_arma> except for atheiests
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01:20 <Corn1> and even the dead guys probably argue with eachother about it
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01:27 <luke-jr> ]later tell nsh22 it's not a matter of what anyone *thinks*; what matters is what is ACTUALLY TRUE
01:27 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
01:28 <Corn1> luke did you say grace to your fake religion?
01:28 <sinewav> Like, it's "actually true" that you believe something others don't?
01:28 <luke-jr> sinewav: like what I believe is reality
01:28 <luke-jr> not because I believe it
01:28 <luke-jr> but because it just is
01:29 <Corn1> but what is reality if the people that prove it are wrong
01:30 <Corn1> because often they are
01:30 <luke-jr> reality exists without people to prove it, that's the wonderful thing
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01:30 <Corn1> then how does you're 'correct' religion exist if no one proved it
01:31 <luke-jr> because God willed it
01:31 <Corn1> so god proved it?
01:31 <Corn1> because otherwise it isnt reality, right?
01:31 <luke-jr> God willed it
01:31 <luke-jr> reality is God's will
01:32 <Corn1> well as far as i'm concerned, i'm god. So does that mean I proved it and therefore someone did discover it?
01:32 <luke-jr> you're not God
01:32 <Corn1> which is why it exists
01:32 <luke-jr> saying so won't make it true
01:33 <Corn1> no, i proved it, and because according to your religion everything that is reality is correct
01:33 <luke-jr> you did not
01:33 <luke-jr> you cannot prove a falsehood
01:33 <Corn1> then how did the fact that the world is flat get proved so long ago
01:33 <Vanhayes> you can disprove
01:33 <Corn1> or that the earth revolves around the sun
01:33 <Corn1> for a long time that was reality
01:33 <luke-jr> "world is flat" is a myth
01:34 <luke-jr> and the Sun revolves around the Earth
01:34 <luke-jr> that is still true
01:34 <Corn1> and theres certainly things today that we say is reality but is far from it
01:34 <luke-jr> even though we have general relativity to allow us to pick arbitrary "center points"
01:34 <Corn1> ok i phrased my sentence wrong big deal
01:35 <Corn1>  and the Sun revolves around the Earth that is still true
01:35 <Corn1> ^^
01:35 <Corn1> you said that
01:35 <Lucifer> general relativity isn't waht allows us to pick arbitrary "center points"
01:35 <Corn1> which isnt true
01:35 <luke-jr> indeed
01:35 <Lucifer> we have always been able to choose our own point of reference
01:35 <luke-jr> Corn1: it's a matter of debate, perhaps
01:35 <Corn1> regardless today either or is proved reality
01:36 <Corn1> by some people possibly the majority
01:36 <Lucifer> in fact, understanding that you can always choose your point of reference (and that you have to pick *something*) is one of the hardest things first semester physics students have
01:36 <luke-jr> people can "prove" or not prove all they want
01:36 <luke-jr> it doesn't change reality as it is
01:37 <Corn1> then how are the functions of your correct religion formed, and dont say because god willed it
01:37 <luke-jr> everything about Catholicism comes from God ☺
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01:37 <luke-jr> the doctrines were initially taught by God when He chose to become man
01:38 <Corn1> im not familiar enough with catholocism to argue this with you so i'm not, but im just saying
01:39 <luke-jr> Corn1: if Catholicism didn't come from God, it would be just another false religion
01:39 <Corn1> :P
01:40 <Vanhayes> god became a man?
01:41 <Pathetique> LOOOOOOOOOOL RELIGIONZ
01:41 <Corn1> in Catholicism isn't Jesus the incarnate?
01:41 <Corn1> im not positive
01:41 <Pathetique> I thought you typed "im not prostate"
01:41 <luke-jr> Corn1: what do you think incarnate means?
01:42 <Corn1> a reformation from being a sort of tangible state to a entity resembling one of us
01:42 <Corn1> not really one of us
01:43 <luke-jr> http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07706b.htm
01:44 <Pathetique> *what if God smooooked caaannniiiibuuuuus?
01:44 <Pathetique> *
01:44 <Corn1> That is a sort of propaganda page you know
01:44 <Pathetique> Any religious based page, especially those with .org, is propoganda, Corn1.
01:45 <Pathetique> religiously*
01:45 <Corn1> well to a point
01:45 <Pathetique> Religion is based on pure propoganda, in a sense.
01:45 <Corn1> if you were just reflecting it as theory base not as a type of 'encyclopedia' that that is
01:46 <luke-jr> it's not theory
01:46 <luke-jr> it's fact
01:46 <Corn1> even the false religions
01:46 <Corn1> because not all religious websites are about your lovely catholicism
01:46 <Pathetique> luke-jr: pro-po-gan-da.
01:46 <Pathetique> dinner time. bbs
01:46 <Corn1> see ya
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03:24 <GodTodd_> ah, luke-jr is spouting false religion again, how fun
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03:44 <Vanhayes> the forums look different
04:00 <luke-jr> noduh?
04:12 <Vanhayes> no attitude from you
04:12 <ct|kyle> Vanhayes: its OK to make luke-jr a foe
04:13 <luke-jr> just not a doe
04:14 <Vanhayes> I cant make you a doe, a deer, a female deer?
04:15 <luke-jr> good
04:15 <ct|kyle> there foe created :)
04:15 <luke-jr> MySQL sucks
04:16 <luke-jr> guru3: hey, the forums screw with font size now :<
04:17 <Vanhayes> i think he is sleeping
04:18 <ct|kyle> and where is our hexadecimal :(
04:18 <Vanhayes> ya i actually know how many posts people have now
04:20 <ct|kyle> and where the fuck is BabyBug I wanted to hurt her :P
04:20 <sinewav> :o
04:21 <Vanhayes> any specific reason or just for her being her?
04:22 <ct|kyle> I was going to blame her for taking away the hex, so for her being her :P
04:28 <Vanhayes> .m Babybug Its your fault Hex is gone
04:28 <tronner> Vanhayes: The operation succeeded.
04:28 <Vanhayes> there, no we didnt miss a chance to blame her
04:29 <ct|kyle> heh
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04:45 <Rajinn> ]seen smoothice
04:45 <ljrbot> Rajinn: smoothice was last seen in #armagetron 1 day, 1 hour, 51 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: <smoothice> Vanhayes: I'm big on sustainability. Now you know...
04:46 <Rajinn> \o sinewav
04:46 <Rajinn> your friend tRon Paul is a really awesome guy btw =) he is learning to double bind.  you taught him well
04:47 <Rajinn> oi kyle!
04:48 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: btw, no bot got that..
04:48 <Vanhayes> <tronner> Vanhayes: The operation succeeded. ??
04:49 <luke-jr> it lies
04:49 <Vanhayes> you lie
04:49 <Rajinn> shocker
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04:53 <Vanhayes> .weather e5n 5c5
04:53 <tronner> Vanhayes: The current temperature in Belleisle Regional High, Springfield, New Brunswick is 3.3°C (11:52 PM ADT on March 29, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: -0.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.69 in 1005.3 hPa (Falling).
04:53 <Vanhayes> seems really hot here
04:53 <sinewav> Rajinn: yeah, tRon Paul and I go back a long way. I kind of feel guilty for getting him hooked on Arma.
04:54 <Vanhayes> its like getting a freind to do crack with you
04:54 <sinewav> yes, that's how I feel. :(
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05:42 <nsh22> hai
05:45 <Vanhayes> hio
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16:41 <ct|kyle> woot Spam already on phpbb3
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18:01 <akira_arma> spam alert
18:01 <akira_arma> But let’s take it apart. Starting from the very general, what are the current macroeconomic objectives, if you listen to the hot air coming out of Washington at the moment? First: growth, of course! Getting the economy going. We learned nothing from the last huge spike in commodity prices, so let’s just try it again. That calls for economic stimulus, a.k.a. printing money. Let’s see...
18:01 <akira_arma> ...how high...
18:01 <akira_arma> ...the prices go up this time. Maybe this time around we will achieve hyperinflation. Second: Stabilizing financial institutions: getting banks lending – that’s important too. You see, we are just not in enough debt yet, that’s our problem. We need more debt, and quickly! Third: jobs! We need to create jobs. Low-wage jobs, of course, to replace all the high-wage manufacturing jobs...
18:01 <akira_arma> ...we’ve been...
18:01 <akira_arma> ...shedding for decades now, and replacing them with low-wage service sector jobs, mainly ones without any job security or benefits. Right now, a lot of people could slow down the rate at which they are sinking further into debt if they quit their jobs. That is, their job is a net loss for them as individuals as well as for the economy as a whole. But, of course, we need much more of that,...
18:01 <akira_arma> ...and quickly!
18:02 <ct|kyle> spam^^
18:06 <akira_arma> cant eat as much as i want to puke ;)
18:07 <akira_arma> and people still call me conspiracy nut :D
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18:23 <ct|kyle> akira_arma: the recession was media caused to get obama in office
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19:01 <akira_arma> not only
19:01 <akira_arma> debasing currencies, increasing defaults to get on with a global currency
19:01 <akira_arma> see talks about the SDR of the IMF
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19:46 <epsy> uhh
19:46 <epsy> guru3, « You cannot add administrators and moderators to your foes list. »
19:47 <epsy> that's what I had when trying to put  -=VcL.Rajinn  on my ignore list on the forums
19:47 <guru3> he's a moderator for his sub-forum, sorry
19:48 <epsy> grmpf
19:48 <epsy> that's .. stupid
19:49 <epsy> oh, and if you could strip bots from the who is online thing, it would be neat
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20:04 <Guest60901> guys please help me configure my video card..
20:04 <Guest60901> i'm new to ubuntu
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21:10 <nsh22> herro
21:11 <Rajinn> hi neal
21:12 <nsh22> ??? who are you?
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21:13 <AI_team> hi
21:13 <AI_team> where can i get the script , that makes user uses
21:14 <nsh22> Rajinn: how do you know my name?
21:14 <AI_team> blablabla @ forums
21:14 <nsh22> AI_team: look on the wiki
21:14 <AI_team> but there are so many entrys
21:14 <AI_team> i diont which is the right
21:15 <nsh22> look for armathentication
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21:16 <AI_team> oh ty i found it
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21:17 <Rajinn> lawl
21:17 <nsh22> Rajinn: how do you know my name?
21:17 <Rajinn> doesn't matter
21:17 <nsh22> oh, my host mas thing when i came on here right?
21:18 <Rajinn> sure
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21:24 <noob13> Re: different wallpapers compiz wall
21:24 <noob13> I don't have wallpaper in utility.
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21:24 <noob13> ops
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22:09 <Vanhayes> .tea
22:09 <tronner> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
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22:44 <noob13> .tea
22:44 <tronner> noob13: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
22:44 <noob13> .servers
22:44 <tronner> noob13: This data is 15 seconds old; Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (10/16), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (8/12), |FA| Black Tar! (7/16), ~Night Walker's Central~DF~ (7/10), .:] Twisted Rats [:. CTF w/ Fortress Physics (7/16), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (7/12), The YELLOW Submarine (7/12), WILDCAT (6/8), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (6/10), (2 more messages)
22:45 <noob13> CTF with fort physics replaced actual fortress? :|
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22:51 <luke-jr> EW
22:51 <luke-jr> the new forums feel like there's some horrible Javascript lagging text input horribly
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22:56 <guru3> luke-jr: i have no idea
22:57 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: that is just your crappy browser :P
22:57 <luke-jr> guru3: any idea how long until font sizes are sane?
22:58 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: actually, it was; I just found 2 kio_http processes eating 100% CPU
22:59 <AshitakA> &%$§
22:59 <guru3> luke-jr: no idea, because i have no problem
22:59 <guru3> however, it's in bzr, so you can help!
23:01 <luke-jr> hrm, email spammers have finally beaten the human filter ☹
23:01 <luke-jr> guru3: so it is. :p
23:02 <AshitakA>  didnt want to disturb ya :b
23:02 <luke-jr> guru3: where? ☺
23:03 <guru3> there's a link in the thread about themeing
23:03 <luke-jr> isn't that the main site?
23:04 <guru3> https://launchpad.net/~armagetronad-web/
23:04 <luke-jr> oh, all of it in the same repo >_<
23:04 <AshitakA> luke: where do you use play sometimes?
23:04 <guru3> bzr group for web development
23:04 <guru3> so that non project members can help out
23:04 <luke-jr> AshitakA: where I feel like it
23:04 <luke-jr> guru3: yes, I joined it
23:04 <luke-jr> lackarma2  lacktankcon  lacktankcon-dark
23:04 <luke-jr> which of those
23:04 <AshitakA> luke so fort and sumo?
23:04 <guru3> lackarma2
23:04 <luke-jr> AshitakA: no, I hate fort and sumo
23:05 <AshitakA>  luke: rubber?
23:05 <luke-jr> AshitakA: sure
23:05 <AshitakA>  ah ok
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23:05 <luke-jr> though I don't mind rubberless
23:05 <luke-jr> provided the server has a decent ping
23:06 <AshitakA>  luke i don't like it, that's why we meet infrequent
23:07 <luke-jr> guru3: fixed, I think; how do I get it to apply?
23:07 <luke-jr> AshitakA: well, I mainly just test, not play so much
23:07 <luke-jr> AshitakA: so you're more likely to see me on new things
23:07 <guru3> tell me and then i upload it
23:07 <luke-jr> like eg, spinning grid
23:07 <luke-jr> guru3: ok, done
23:07 <guru3> i don't have a better system at the moment
23:07 <AshitakA>  how can you write it in red?
23:08 <luke-jr> AshitakA: say what?
23:08 <luke-jr> guru3: tell me when to check
23:08 <AshitakA>  how can you write  in red, here?
23:08 <luke-jr> you can't
23:09 <AshitakA> because i see your writing in red
23:09 <luke-jr> no I'm not
23:09 <luke-jr> guru3: btw, why is it forums3 now? :p
23:09 <guru3> because it's on php5
23:09 <guru3> and the old forums were on php4
23:09 <luke-jr> O.o
23:09 <luke-jr> 5 != 3
23:09 <guru3> but i need to keep the php4 around for a bit
23:09 <luke-jr> ah
23:10 <luke-jr> that worked well ☺
23:10 <guru3> just in case something goes wrong you know
23:10 <guru3> but it's 3 specifically because it's phpbb3
23:10 <luke-jr> or did it? :o
23:10 <luke-jr> looks like something else is increasing the font size now
23:10 <luke-jr> but too big is managable for now I suppose
23:10 <luke-jr> too small is just a PITA
23:11 <AshitakA>  i meant everything you write to me, it appears in red
23:11 <luke-jr> that must be your client
23:11 <AshitakA> ah ok
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23:27 <guru3> luke-jr: what did you do to the post box... the text has become huge
23:27 <luke-jr> post box?
23:28 <guru3> i went to do a pm and the text was huge
23:28 <luke-jr> no bigger than anything else
23:29 <guru3> it's all huge now
23:29 <luke-jr> all I did was delete the line reducing the font size everywhere
23:29 <luke-jr> not sure what is increasing it :x
23:29 <luke-jr> [16:10:32] <luke-jr> looks like something else is increasing the font size now
23:29 <luke-jr> [16:10:54] <luke-jr> but too big is managable for now I suppose
23:29 <luke-jr> [16:10:59] <luke-jr> too small is just a PITA
23:29 <luke-jr> aha
23:29 <luke-jr> think I found it
23:30 <guru3> can you find the font color it's using for people's names and stuff
23:30 <guru3> and i'll find the font color from the old style
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23:33 <luke-jr> peoples names = links?
23:33 <guru3> i think it's just a regular link
23:33 <Zurd> i have a server set up for auth, i can log in successfully,  however, the person i made the server for cant, and nor can i under his information he provided... i have an acount on the forums, says hes activated it, but there error "user_id not found", or somthing to that effect comes up, any help is welcome
23:34 <luke-jr> guru3: yeah, it is
23:34 <luke-jr> guru3: more font adjsutments if u want to sync
23:35 <guru3> i want to sort this font color thing
23:36 <guru3> it's the same color
23:36 <guru3> but looks so different
23:36 <luke-jr> looks same to me tbh
23:36 <guru3> well the regular text isn't black like it should be
23:37 <luke-jr> ?
23:37 <luke-jr> looks black to me XD
23:37 <guru3> the text on the old forum search results
23:37 <guru3> either that or it's rendering different
23:38 <guru3> fixed that
23:40 <luke-jr> guru3: let me know when you sync the more-font-changes :P
23:40 <guru3> ok
23:40 <guru3> i'm just fiddling with the order of stuff in the header
23:41 <luke-jr> XD
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23:42 <nsh22> hai
23:43 <Zurd> nsh22 	i have a server set up for auth, i can log in successfully, however, the person i made the server for cant, and nor can i under his information he provided... i have an acount on the forums, says hes activated it, but there error "user_id not found", or somthing to that effect comes up, any help is welcome
23:43 <guru3> Zurd: that's my fault
23:44 <luke-jr> LOL
23:44 <guru3> I just upgraded the forums and haven't updated the authentication server yet.
23:44 <guru3> (Or written a patch for the forums)
23:44 <nsh22> Zurd: just wait a few days :P
23:44 <luke-jr> >_<
23:44 <Zurd> ohh, ok, but those who were already on the list can still be reconized?
23:44 <guru3> yes
23:44 <luke-jr> it's not a list -.-
23:45 <Zurd> kk ty
23:45 <Zurd> luke-jr leave me alone! >_<
23:45 <nsh22> Zurd: shush, we need him to help us :P
23:45  * luke-jr leaves nsh22 and Zurd alone.
23:45  * nsh22 slaps zurd
23:46  * Zurd cuts his wrist
23:46 <Zurd> ......................!
23:46 <nsh22> yay!
23:46 <nsh22> lol jkjk
23:52 <guru3> luke-jr: it's been put up
23:53 <luke-jr> I don't see a change :o
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23:54 <guru3> it has
23:54 <guru3> i need to find a poll now
23:54 <guru3> oh lols
23:54 <luke-jr> http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=19189
23:54 <guru3> that is squished alright
23:57 <luke-jr> guru3: sync again? ☺
23:57 <luke-jr> woops, my commit didn't go
23:57 <guru3> i'm just hunting down the fix
23:57 <guru3> last one for tonight
23:58 <luke-jr> ok, committed
23:58 <luke-jr> rev 22
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00:00 <guru3> the buttoms got huge
00:00 <guru3> *buttons
00:00 <guru3> and drop downs
00:01 <luke-jr> ?
00:01 <luke-jr> the buttons are effing images
00:01 <luke-jr> how coudl they get huge
00:01 <guru3> form buttons
00:01 <guru3> the text in form element buttons has gotten large
00:02 <luke-jr> sure you're on r22? :/
00:02 <luke-jr> where do yuo see form element buttons?
00:02 <luke-jr> I don't see those anywhere
00:02 <guru3> when you post?
00:02 <luke-jr> oh, those
00:02 <luke-jr> looks fine to me
00:03 <guru3> 2d77074b94088a1ba299d1fcad79a97e  stylesheet.css
00:03 <guru3> is that correct?
00:03 <luke-jr> yes
00:04 <guru3> http://guru3.net/temp/bigbuttons.png
00:04 <luke-jr> that's big?
00:04 <guru3> bigger than it was
00:05 <guru3> as you can see by the text going over the edge
00:05 <guru3> the size of text in the textarea is fine
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00:05 <guru3> all other form fields have gotten too large
00:05 <luke-jr> well, the overflow is a browser bug ☺
00:08 <guru3> oh well
00:08 <guru3> too late today
00:08 <guru3> i'll fix it tomorrow
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01:00 <Rajinn> oi ct|kyle, can you help me figure out of to make a serverside recording on my vps?  cuz you know how mines set up, i have tried everything and can't get it to work
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01:36 <noob13> .ping
01:36 <tronner> pong
01:36 <noob13> ping
01:37 <noob13> strange looking fonts on the forums..
01:37 <noob13> whats going on?
01:44 <Lackadaisical> luke-jr went on an font-size killing spree
01:47 <noob13> seems to me like the font-family has changed
01:47 <noob13> to something completely different
01:47 <noob13> this might not be the case tho
01:48 <noob13> has there always been an "f=" parameter in the URL?
01:48 <Lackadaisical> maybe to the default font?
01:48 <Lackadaisical> i think thats just the new phpbb3
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01:50 <noob13> looks like the f just defines the section of the forum
01:51 <noob13> and t is for thread or somesuch..
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01:56 <noob13> Ahoj!
01:56 <Durka> wtf is with the forums
01:56 <Durka> http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=19173&p=205469#p205469
01:57 <noob13> u mean the strange fonts? we just talked about that...
01:57 <noob13> 01:44 < Lackadaisical> luke-jr went on an font-size killing spree
01:58 <Durka> LOL
01:58 <Durka> ffs
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03:45 <BabyBug> Goooooooood evening...
03:45 <sinewav> lol
03:45 <BabyBug> Since when was this channel so empty :|
03:46 <BabyBug> Vanhayes_, who the feck is Hex?
03:56 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: :P
03:57 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: the hex on forums
03:58 <BabyBug> I don't read the forums
03:59 <ct|kyle> I know but i wanted to take my frustration out on you, but since you were not around Vanhayes_ decided to take up the opertunity
04:02 <BabyBug> Oh i see....Looks like you're still angry at the fact you fat, fugly and a virgin
04:02 <BabyBug> you're*
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06:30 <ljrbot> New news from armagetronadbzr: [themes] r22 lets stop effing with font-size || [themes] r21 image sizes in image set... || [themes] r20 index.php patch... || [themes] r19 Luke Dashjr 2009-03-30 more font-size adjustments... || [themes] r18 font color change... || [themes] more font-size adjustments || [themes] r17 altered search results to add forum column... || [themes] r16 dont screw with font size! >:O
06:31 <BabyBug> Hello luke-jr!
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09:08 <Lucifer> yay, finally got something reliable going :)
09:12 <BabyBug> Lucifer?
09:12 <Lucifer> BabyBug?
09:13 <BabyBug> What's the reliable thing
09:13 <BabyBug> ?
09:13 <Lucifer> that was my internet connection I was talking about
09:13 <BabyBug> ooo
09:13 <Lucifer> for some reason, I couldn't get my wifi card to talk to my brother-in-law's router, so I stuck my router in there, plugged into his
09:13 <BabyBug> Your net has always seemed reliable :s
09:13 <Lucifer> under his request, more or less, I turned on encryption
09:14 <BabyBug> wait..you've moved now?
09:14 <Lucifer> well, it was unreliable this weekend because I was borrowing one of his neighbor's connection
09:14 <Lucifer> yes, I moved this weekend
09:14 <BabyBug> Oh right =)
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10:15 <Lucifer_arma> .ping
10:15 <tronner> pong
10:15 <Lucifer_arma> well, I failed again to setup my pc as an internet gateway
10:15 <Lucifer_arma> I think I need to break out my laptop to work on it
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13:32 <animuson> is it possible to disable single player mode and treat every round like a normal round?
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15:34 <ljrbot> New news from armagetronadbzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1116 Updated other ePlayerNetID constructor initializer list....
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16:27 <Pathetique> Would anyone here happen to know of any reasons why the ladder for my hex sumo server is not being used or written to?
16:27 <guru3> wwhat version is your hex sumo server?
16:28 <Pathetique> 1 second.
16:28 <Pathetique> 0.2.8-sty+ct_alpha20090301 unix
16:28 <guru3> no idea then
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16:28 <guru3> permissions on the ladder files ok?
16:29 <Pathetique> The weird thing is that some of the other servers that I'm running that use that version create ladders just fine.
16:29 <Pathetique> I'll check.
16:31 <Pathetique> rw-r--r-- is a good permission set right?
16:31 <guru3> yeah
16:31 <guru3> same user as the server is running as?
16:31 <Pathetique> AFAIK.  Its on CompGuyGene's VPS that he is renting from luke-jr.
16:32 <guru3> well
16:32 <guru3> try deleting/moving the file
16:32 <guru3> and see if it creates a new one
16:32 <Pathetique> My high rubber and fortress servers have a healthy ladder...
16:32 <dlh> What are the full permissions (with user and group)?
16:32 <dlh> user->owner
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16:33 <Pathetique> owner: pathetique
16:33 <Pathetique> same for group
16:33 <Pathetique> User: read/write; group: read; world: read
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16:35 <Pathetique> It isn't writing to ladder.txt or won_rounds.txt, but won_matches.txt and highscores.txt are fine.
16:35 <Pathetique> And they all have the same permission set.
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16:39 <epsy> uuh, why is the font so big?
16:39 <Pathetique> ?
16:39 <epsy> on the forums
16:39 <Pathetique> iunno
16:39 <Pathetique> idrc lol
16:40 <dlh> Pathetique: If the file wasn't writable Armagetron would exit with an error
16:40 <guru3> epsy: luke was complaining it was too small so i pointed him to bzr
16:40 <Pathetique> dlh: Then what would make it so it wouldn't write to the ladder and won_rounds?
16:41 <epsy> It's huge ..
16:41 <dlh> no idea. Are you testing in single player mode?
16:41 <epsy> guru3, http://epsy.teamkilled.net:8080/~epsy/screenshots/guru31.png
16:42 <guru3> epsy: lp:~/armagetronad-web/armagetronad/themes/phpBB3/lackarma/style/stylesheet.css
16:42 <Pathetique> No, I know it doesn't work in single player
16:42 <Pathetique> speaking of which
16:43 <Pathetique> highscores.txt, is that used in both single player and multiplayer modes?
16:44 <luke-jr> epsy: do you know WHY it's huge?
16:44 <luke-jr> I sure don't
16:45 <luke-jr> I nuked ALL font-size mentions I saw :/
16:45 <luke-jr> so in theory, it shouldn't be huge! ☹
16:45 <epsy> guru3, gah, remove that "check if this user is a moderator" check when trying to add someone to your ignore list
16:45 <epsy> using em's are better
16:45 <Pathetique> luke-jr: noob.
16:45 <epsy> in theoru
16:45 <epsy> theory *
16:45 <luke-jr> epsy: probably should revert my last commit
16:45 <Pathetique> luke-jr: NOOB.
16:45 <epsy> only reliable way is pixels, I'm sorry
16:45 <luke-jr> it was aimed to try to make the font not-huge
16:45 <dlh> Pathetique: what server version do you run?
16:45 <epsy> Pathetique, stfu
16:45 <Pathetique> LOL
16:46 <luke-jr> epsy: no, pixels are just bad code
16:46 <Pathetique> dlh: 0.2.8-sty+ct_alpha20090301 unix
16:46 <dlh> there's your problem
16:46 <Pathetique> pixels ftw
16:46 <luke-jr> pixels should never be used
16:46 <epsy> luke-jr, that's the way it works best however
16:46 <dlh> are you using authentication?
16:46 <Pathetique> Mhm.
16:46 <Pathetique> -.-
16:46 <luke-jr> epsy: no
16:46 <Pathetique> That's why, ain't it?
16:47 <dlh> The sty+ct branch hasn't been merged with 0.2.8 in awhile
16:47 <luke-jr> if you use pixels, then everything changes size based on resolution, etc
16:47 <epsy> except for the screen resolution case people mentionned
16:47 <dlh> 0.2.8 has some fixes for duplicated names in score files
16:47 <luke-jr> also meaning if you print, the page is 33% the on-screen size in general
16:47 <epsy> but do you usually change your screen resolution all day?
16:47 <Pathetique> I see.
16:47 <luke-jr> epsy: I don't mean changing your own res
16:47 <Pathetique> maybe someone ct|kyle should merge it then?
16:47 <luke-jr> I mean varying res between computers
16:47 <luke-jr> and monitor size too
16:47 <Pathetique> ;)
16:47 <epsy> don't expect it to look same everywhere
16:47 <epsy> they will be used to that font size
16:48 <luke-jr> epsy: that's why you shouldn't set a size
16:48 <dlh> font-size: HUGE;
16:48 <luke-jr> pages should use the user's default font size
16:48 <Pathetique> What should you use instead? pt?
16:48 <luke-jr> Pathetique: no, you shouldn't be setting a font size
16:48 <ct|kyle> dlh: it has been merged but I merged it right before the second fix to scoring
16:48 <luke-jr> non-font-size elements should be using em ☺
16:48 <Pathetique> luke-jr: If someone had a gun to your head and said "pick a unit of font size" what would you pick?
16:48 <epsy> luke-jr, yeah, titles, corpus and headers all at default font size woo! :)
16:48 <luke-jr> maybe in some cases cm/in
16:49 <luke-jr> Pathetique: 10pt?
16:49 <Pathetique> So you'd use pt?
16:49 <luke-jr> epsy: it's called a percentage
16:49 <luke-jr> epsy: headers can be 110% or so
16:49 <luke-jr> Pathetique: pt is the standard for font sizes
16:49 <dlh> ct|kyle: well it needs to merged regularly, since so many servers run it :)
16:49 <Pathetique> I see.  So then maybe someone should put the old stylesheet back up.
16:49 <Pathetique> lOL
16:50 <luke-jr> Pathetique: but you have no business telling me what font size I should use, and vice versa
16:50 <luke-jr> that's a browser setting
16:50 <luke-jr> and for good reason
16:50 <Pathetique> I wasn't telling you which one you should use.
16:50 <ct|kyle> dlh: I know, I started on merging it yesterday, I need to figure out what mores from ePlayer to eChat though
16:50 <epsy> now, regarding the point default font size is too big
16:50 <ct|kyle> I agree epsy
16:50 <luke-jr> epsy: no, the problem is that SOMETHING is scaling the font
16:50 <epsy> most users around here won't fiddle with that, and probably won't even know about it
16:51 <epsy> so, what are they going to blame if the font looks huge?
16:51 <luke-jr> the font size at http://luke.dashjr.org/tmp/text.html is what you have configured
16:51 <luke-jr> and what the forum should be using for post bodies
16:51 <Pathetique> toobig.
16:51 <luke-jr> Pathetique: then set your font smaller, idiot
16:51 <Pathetique> My font is fine.
16:52 <Pathetique> But for forum posts, that's large.
16:52 <luke-jr> obviously not
16:52 <Pathetique> Its a matter of style, not functionality. :P
16:52 <luke-jr> if you're using Firefox, go to Preferences
16:52 <luke-jr> Content
16:52 <Pathetique> I know how to do that, tyvm.
16:52 <luke-jr> Default font: Size:
16:52 <epsy> the user who just had armagetron not work for him will sure think about doing that
16:53 <epsy> what is he going to think?
16:53 <epsy> oh, shit game, shit website as well
16:53 <luke-jr> epsy: who cares?
16:53 <luke-jr> we don't need idiot players, do we?
16:53 <Pathetique> He has a point there.
16:53 <Pathetique> LOL
16:53 <epsy> idiot doesn't mean "someone who doesn't set his default font size"
16:54 <epsy> unless you call me idiot
16:54 <luke-jr> idiot does mean someone who blames a webpage for a setting he didn't configure
16:54 <luke-jr> "OMG, it's using 16pt when that's what I have set. How ugly!"
16:54 <luke-jr> "if I have 16pt configured, it should use 12pt!"
16:55 <epsy> get me 15 regulars who know about browser default font sizes
16:55 <luke-jr> anyhow, all of this is kinda moot until someone finds out why the heck everything is so ig
16:55 <luke-jr> big
16:55 <Pathetique> The whole purpose for CSS is so you can define what sizes will end up being used to make your page look nice, seeing as most people don't bother going through each and every setting possible in a program they're running.
16:56 <luke-jr> epsy: I won't oppose dropping Windows support.
16:56 <luke-jr> Pathetique: wrong
16:57 <luke-jr> the point of CSS is separating visual hints from content
16:57 <Pathetique> One of the purposes*
16:57 <Pathetique> -.-
16:58 <luke-jr> no, it is not a purpose of CSS to override user preferences
16:58 <luke-jr> in fact, it is completely contrary to one of the real purposes of CSS
16:58 <luke-jr> which is to let the user affect the visuals more
16:58 <epsy> user can always provide a custom CSS right for himself
16:58 <luke-jr> or, if the user prefers, audial
16:58 <luke-jr> epsy: that's what the font size setting is
16:59 <Pathetique> From w3.org/Style/CSS/
16:59 <Pathetique> Cascading Style Sheets (CSS) is a simple mechanism for adding style (e.g. fonts, colors, spacing) to Web documents.
16:59 <Pathetique> So, luke-jr, you can now </pontificate> ;)
16:59 <ct|kyle> dlh: I'll try to finish that merge today if not tomorrow
17:00 <luke-jr> Pathetique: that doesn't support your assertion at all
17:00 <Pathetique> Yes it does.
17:00 <luke-jr> nope
17:00 <Pathetique> It just says it in a lot more concise manner.
17:00 <luke-jr> "fonts" refers to font families in general
17:01 <dlh> ct|kyle: I'm looking at the merge now. I'm almost done with the conflicts
17:01 <Pathetique> luke-jr: You just can't tolerate being wrong.
17:02 <Pathetique> :P
17:02 <luke-jr> Pathetique: not my fault you're totally wrong
17:02 <epsy> no you're wrong
17:02 <epsy> no you're wrong
17:02 <epsy> no you're wrong
17:02 <epsy> no you're wrong
17:02 <epsy> no you're wrong
17:02 <Pathetique> LOL
17:02 <epsy> godwin.
17:03 <luke-jr> http://www.w3.org/StyleSheets/home.css
17:03 <luke-jr> you don't see W3c abusing font-size
17:03 <Pathetique> That still doesn't make you right.
17:04 <epsy> that's still a decent font size
17:04 <luke-jr> Pathetique: I'm reassigning you to the fail department. Have fun.
17:04 <luke-jr> epsy: it doesn't *set* a font size
17:04 <Pathetique> you're still wrong.
17:04 <luke-jr> it uses the user preferences
17:04 <epsy> so why is ours too big?
17:04 <luke-jr> I don't know! -.-
17:04 <luke-jr> that's what I'm saying
17:04 <epsy> that's what she says
17:04 <Pathetique> You fuxx0red it, so you gotta fix it.
17:05 <epsy> as if it wasn't hard enough there had to be so much tables
17:05 <luke-jr> it was already fuxx0red -- ever worse -- before
17:05 <dlh> ct|kyle: nevermind... gWinZone is a mess
17:05 <luke-jr> dlh: gWinZone is mostly gone…
17:06 <dlh> in 0.2.8?
17:06 <luke-jr> what is ct|kyle doing with 0.2.8? -.-
17:06 <dlh> sty+ct is out of date.
17:07 <dlh> It is a problem, because there were some fixes committed to 0.2.8, but sty+ct hasn't merged them yet
17:07 <epsy> guru3, http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=232
17:07 <epsy> guru3, typo in there :P
17:08 <luke-jr> epsy: does FF support user.css?
17:08 <epsy> typos, even
17:08 <epsy> yes
17:08 <luke-jr> dlh: I already fixed that
17:08 <luke-jr> dlh: lp:~luke-jr/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct or such
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17:08 <dlh> They haven't merged yet, you should tell them
17:08 <luke-jr> dlh: I did
17:08 <epsy> there are also extensions for managing it anytime
17:08 <luke-jr> epsy: how?
17:08 <epsy> but there's an user css which you can use natively
17:09 <luke-jr> …
17:09 <epsy> http://www.mozilla.org/unix/customizing.html
17:09 <luke-jr> wtf, you need to edit a file manually?
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17:09 <epsy> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2108
17:10 <dlh> ct|kyle: bzr merge lp:~luke-jr/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct
17:10 <dlh> no conflicts
17:10 <Pathetique> lol
17:10 <guru3> an inline style definition should overwrite anything else right?
17:10 <epsy> yes
17:10 <epsy> except what's !important
17:10 <Pathetique> Or something with !important
17:10 <epsy> but never do that outside of an user css
17:10 <guru3> i can't figure out what's making this border then :/
17:10 <Pathetique> Epsy you have such fast fingers. :P
17:11 <epsy> what border?
17:11 <luke-jr> userContent.css isn't working
17:11 <Pathetique> luke-jr: your tmp directory is boring.
17:11 <luke-jr> Pathetique: f u'
17:11 <epsy> you need to restart the browser
17:11 <guru3> notice how between posts
17:11 <Pathetique> LOL
17:12 <luke-jr> epsy: that's BS
17:12 <guru3> there's a double thick line?
17:12 <Pathetique> guru: border-collapse:collapse
17:12 <guru3> i'm trying to hunt htat down because it annoys me
17:12 <epsy> luke-jr, use the addon otherwise
17:12 <epsy> well, look in the tables
17:12 <Pathetique> That should fix it if its a border.
17:12 <epsy> some empty cells
17:12 <luke-jr> epsy: "This add-on is for older versions of Firefox "
17:12 <epsy> uhh
17:12 <Pathetique> I hate double borders.
17:12 <epsy> doesn't say that here
17:13 <epsy> what version are you using?
17:13 <luke-jr> 3.1 beta 3
17:13 <epsy> ah :P
17:13  * Pathetique bites his tongue. :P
17:14 <luke-jr> screw it
17:14 <luke-jr> someone else figure out why the font sizes are effd
17:14 <epsy> well, you can either bump it yourself or not use a beta
17:14 <Pathetique> someone revert the commit.
17:14 <Pathetique> lol
17:14 <luke-jr> or not fix stuff
17:14 <Pathetique> Take the asy way out.
17:14 <luke-jr> Pathetique: it's still too big
17:14 <Pathetique> easy*
17:14 <Pathetique> ic.
17:14 <luke-jr> and if you go back to before I touched anything, then it's way too small
17:14 <Pathetique> idk
17:14 <luke-jr> too big is better than too small
17:14 <Pathetique> notrly.
17:15 <luke-jr> yarly
17:15 <luke-jr> I can read too big
17:15 <epsy> tables tables tables tables
17:15 <epsy> GAHHH
17:15 <Pathetique> I'd rather have to use some effort to read than have to scroll five thousand lines.
17:15 <epsy> I HATE phpbb
17:15 <Pathetique> What other way can you do a forum than tables, epsy?
17:15 <epsy> holy shit wtf
17:15  * luke-jr smacks Pathetique ☺
17:15 <luke-jr> just for fun, you know
17:16 <epsy> MAYBE topic list
17:16 <Pathetique> I know CSS allows you to organize content without the messiness of tables.
17:16 <luke-jr> epsy: if I had a simple way to test things, I'd try *{font-size:100% !important}
17:16 <epsy> but that's it
17:16 <Pathetique> But that doesn't work easily in large amounts, now, does it?
17:16 <epsy> also, why forums3 ?
17:16 <luke-jr> epsy: phpBB3 is on another server
17:16 <epsy> ah ok
17:18 <epsy> http://epsy.teamkilled.net:8080/~epsy/screenshots/guru32.png
17:18 <epsy> that's pretty much the same
17:18 <luke-jr> O.o
17:18 <epsy> comparent to http://epsy.teamkilled.net:8080/~epsy/screenshots/guru31.png
17:19 <luke-jr> epsy: we don't have a reference to compare with of the forums
17:19 <epsy> indeed
17:19 <luke-jr> compare it to http://luke.dashjr.org/tmp/text.html
17:19 <epsy> er
17:19 <epsy> ah
17:19 <epsy> there's the irc window
17:19 <luke-jr> …
17:19 <epsy> but I guess you want sth in the browser
17:19 <luke-jr> Firefox doesn't use OS font settings
17:20 <epsy> http://epsy.teamkilled.net:8080/~epsy/screenshots/guru33.png
17:20 <epsy> that's with the style off
17:21 <epsy> and it's same with the other
17:21 <epsy> er
17:21 <epsy> with it on
17:29 <ct|kyle> dlh: but luke-jr fucked up
17:30 <Pathetique> *gasp!*
17:30 <ct|kyle> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~luke-jr/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct/revision/665
17:30 <ct|kyle> duplicate includes and it did not look like he moved the eplayer chat hacks to echat either
17:31 <luke-jr> epsy: of course
17:31 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: duplicate stuff is easy to cleanup
17:31 <ct|kyle> yes but like I said, a few eplayer  > eChat did not get moved over also
17:32 <luke-jr> example
17:33 <ct|kyle> the stuff to write /me and /msg to ladderlog
17:33 <luke-jr> uh?
17:33 <luke-jr> /me and /msg shouldn't be in ladderlog
17:34 <Pathetique> LOL
17:34 <ct|kyle> chatlog
17:34 <Pathetique> ct|kyle: bigbrother ftl.
17:34 <ct|kyle> which I'm used to in ladderlog because of configuration
17:34 <ct|kyle> actually it is logged in console log so why not in chatlog?
17:35 <ljrbot> New news from armagetronadbzr: [themes] r23 camel power back... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty] r898 Merge from 0.2.8...
17:36 <epsy>  /me should be, msg not
17:36 <Pathetique> Indeed.
17:36 <epsy> chatlog should be kept to what could be made public anytime
17:37 <epsy> ie. what people made public
17:37 <Pathetique> Although, I do <3 ACCESS_LEVEL_MSG_SPY :D
17:37 <epsy> that means chat that appeared to everyone
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17:37 <ct|kyle> I have it configurable
17:37 <epsy> that's different
17:37 <BabyBug> Boo!
17:37 <ct|kyle> and defults to off
17:37 <epsy> oh my god not BabyBug!
17:37 <Pathetique> lol
17:38 <epsy> maybe also team messages in teams with more than 2 players
17:38 <epsy> only once player count is fixed, tho
17:39 <Pathetique> Maybe someone could make a playerlist.txt that didn't have all the details that the current players.txt has.
17:39 <Pathetique> That would make having a player list on a website a lot easier. ><
17:39 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: anyhow, I just merged stuff
17:39 <luke-jr> I don't see how anything would be missed
17:39 <luke-jr> dupe blocks, sure
17:39 <luke-jr> that's understandable
17:40 <epsy> best would be to query the server directly :)
17:40 <Pathetique> From PHP, epsy?
17:40 <epsy> if you call system()
17:41 <Pathetique> Sorry, I'm not that 1337.  I'm more along the lines of 1002.75
17:41 <Pathetique> lol
17:42 <epsy> um, ok?
17:42 <Pathetique> (1337/4)*3 ftw.
17:42 <Pathetique> tough crowd. sheesh.
17:44 <ct|kyle> anyway I thought eChat had more than it did, I guess I'll merge with you luke-jr
17:45 <ct|kyle> and remove the duplicates
17:49 <epsy> hi BabyBug btw
17:49 <BabyBug> Hi =)
17:49 <dlh> The duplicate includes aren't much of a problem, as they use a header include guard so they won't be included more than once. But those headers shouldn't be included in engine anyway.
17:51 <dlh> eChat just has spam checking stuff in it right now. I didn't move anything else over to it.
17:56 <dlh> ct|kyle: you might want to update your major_version and minor_version files. major_version should be 0.2.8-sty+ct
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18:05 <Pathetique> \o joda
18:13 <Pathetique> .ping
18:13 <tronner> pong
18:13 <Pathetique> o.o
18:13 <ct|kyle> yes dlh I see that now
18:13 <Pathetique> why's it so quiet?
18:15 <ct|kyle> you started talking
18:15 <Pathetique> That's not nice.
18:15 <Pathetique> :(
18:16 <ct|kyle> I know but its the truth :P
18:17 <Vanhayes_> the truth can sometimes hurt
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18:18 <Pathetique> :|
18:21 <Pathetique> ct|kyle: So you've merged with the better branch?
18:21 <ct|kyle> just getting ready to push it
18:22 <Pathetique> sweet.  plz lemme know when you do so I can tell Gene to recompile. :)
18:22 <ct|kyle> let me check to see if it compiles
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18:25 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: you really fucked up with merging
18:26 <Pathetique> :o
18:26 <Pathetique> nodice?
18:27 <ct|kyle> http://rafb.net/p/G1ldmT21.html
18:27 <dlh> delete the eChatSpamTester stuff from ePlayer.cpp
18:27 <ct|kyle> its because ePlayer.cpp kept the stuff that as moved to eChat.cpp
18:28 <dlh> I think he duplicated se_silenceDeadConf too
18:28 <dlh> other than that it compiled for me
18:28 <ct|kyle> I took care of that
18:30 <Pathetique> dlh: I just started up the hex sumo server after deleting ladder.txt
18:30 <Pathetique> It recreated the file
18:31 <Pathetique> Now I need to get people in here
18:32 <ct|kyle> dlh: it seams like chatSpam does not work, or does it not care when 1 player is there?
18:32 <dlh> What do you mean? Spam protection at all?
18:32 <ct|kyle> wait a second
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18:32 <ct|kyle> I forgot to make install LOL
18:33 <Pathetique> nice going.
18:33 <ct|kyle> I was not planning on testing when I compiled
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18:35 <ct|kyle> Pathetique: pushing so give it a minute or 2
18:36 <Pathetique> ty
18:36 <Pathetique> :)
18:36 <BabyBug> down with Pathetique!
18:36 <Pathetique> Ladder gets written/modified at the end of each round?
18:36 <BabyBug> :*
18:37 <madmax> why is armabot MIA?
18:38 <ct|kyle> been for a few weeks
18:38 <BabyBug> wrtlprnft won't tell anyone
18:38 <ct|kyle> ok Pathetique should be able to update
18:38 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: well, my ORIGINAL merge was ok
18:39 <luke-jr> it's just the lame weave merging
18:39 <luke-jr> guess I should redo it
18:39 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: want me to redo the update merge?
18:39 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: I already fixed them in mine
18:39 <ct|kyle> New news from sty+ct: 664: merging with luke-jr's
18:40 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: are you SURE you got them all?
18:41 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: yes I removed your last comment and then removed the eChatSpamTester stuff
18:41 <luke-jr> I didn't add anything… no comment
18:41 <Pathetique> dlh: no dice.  Still no won_rounds or ladder
18:42 <dlh> ct|kyle: be sure to update your major_version and minor_version
18:43 <ct|kyle> dlh: err did not see major_version
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18:45 <MilesProwerServe> Hi all, I'm having a problem with the sty dedicated server, can anyone help?
18:46 <ct|kyle> there rewrote that
18:46 <Pathetique> First thing Miles
18:46 <Pathetique> make your name shorter plzk
18:46 <luke-jr> MilesProwerServe: I offer managed sty hosting; http://lightfoot.dashjr.org
18:46 <Pathetique> :S
18:46 <MilesProwerServe> lol
18:46 <luke-jr> Pathetique: his nick is supposed to be a milk
18:46 <luke-jr> mile*
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18:46 <Pathetique> ty
18:46 <ct|kyle> now what is the problem
18:46 <Pathetique> Now, whats the issue that you're having?
18:47 <MilesPrower> Well, when I try to login using /login <pass> it doesn't work.
18:47 <Pathetique> Did you set ADMIN_PASS?
18:47 <MilesPrower> yes
18:47 <Pathetique> Or are you using Global ID?
18:47 <MilesPrower> ?
18:47 <Pathetique> Go to the console
18:47 <Pathetique> and type GLOBAL_ID
18:47 <Pathetique> what does it say?
18:47 <MilesPrower> it's set to 0
18:48 <Pathetique> ok
18:48 <MilesPrower> I just compiled the sty server this morning.
18:48 <Pathetique> Well, if you're willing to be brave and use GLOBAL_ID, then set it to 1 and define yourself a local account
18:48 <Pathetique> LOCAL_USER Miles *insertpasswordhere*
18:48 <Pathetique> Or some such.
18:48 <Pathetique> and then USER_LEVEL Miles@ 0
18:49 <dlh> you wouldn't need GLOBAL_ID 1 for a local account.
18:49 <MilesPrower> and then use the Auth menu to login in the game?
18:49 <Pathetique> oic
18:49 <Pathetique> Well, then he'd be cool like the rest of us auth-enabled server admins
18:49 <MilesPrower> 1sec, trying...
18:50 <Pathetique> btw, luke-jr, where do you get milk from miles?
18:50 <Pathetique> mile*
18:50 <Pathetique> lol
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18:52 <luke-jr> typo of 'e'
18:52 <MilesPrower> Didn't work, I get login_failed_message in the console
18:53 <dlh> there is probably more to the error message
18:53 <luke-jr> MilesPrower: I also have VPS services: http://lightfoot.dashjr.org/?page=vps ☺
18:53 <dlh> and the error message probably tells you exactly what you need to do
18:54 <MilesPrower> After I try login, console spits out this: [1] login_message_requestedlogin_message_respondedlogin_failed_messagereceived logout from 1.
18:55 <Pathetique> lol
18:55 <dlh> installation error? those are language keys, they should be replaced with actually english text.
18:55 <Pathetique> Maybe you didn't pass the correct flag for ./configure
18:55 <dlh> actual english text*
18:55 <MilesPrower> I'm on a mac, I just opened XCode project file and hit build.
18:55 <Pathetique> LOL I did the same thing.
18:56 <dlh> ah, so you're running from the builddir?
18:56 <Pathetique> It built it with everything when I did it.
18:56 <dlh> or from in Xcode
18:57 <MilesPrower> I copied the built binary to my normal dedicated folder and overwrote the old exec.
18:57 <Pathetique> that was noob
18:57 <Pathetique> lol
18:57 <MilesPrower> Yes, I thought so >.>
18:57 <Pathetique> You should have made a whole new directory
18:57 <dlh> choose the "Create Dedicated Release" target in xcode and build that
18:58 <MilesPrower> kk, Illdo that then
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18:59 <Pathetique> Ew.
18:59 <Pathetique> Chodehunter.
19:00 <MilesPrower> Well, that cleared up alot xD
19:00 <Pathetique> yarly
19:00 <MilesPrower> Ty guys =)
19:00 <Pathetique> yw
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19:19 <Vanhayes> .tea
19:19 <tronner> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
19:20 -!- Rajinn [n=rajinn@161-130.207-68.elmore.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
19:20 <ct|kyle> o0 Rajinn is looking for me
19:20  * ct|kyle hides
19:21 <Rajinn> LOL!
19:21 <Rajinn> actually, I was, but then this show im watchin got me stunned
19:23 <Rajinn> im hoping that someone can help me run a server like bugfarm elimination sumo today with the scripts zman has https://code.launchpad.net/~z-man/armagetronad/bugfarm-scripts
19:25 <Rajinn> wheres manuel?
19:25 <Pathetique> I think the silence is everyone collectively saying "readthefuckingmanual." :)
19:25 <Rajinn> who are you?
19:25  * Pathetique <---
19:26 <Rajinn> my point exactly
19:26 <Pathetique> I am Evan Nelson, a rational observer.
19:26 <Pathetique> Besides, someone had to give you an answerto your question.
19:26 <Rajinn> f                                                  a                                                  g
19:27 <Pathetique> You're just jealous I'm happy in a way you'll never be. :)
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19:27 <Rajinn> sorry, i don't want to be pleasured by a man
19:27 <Pathetique> Not like that, genius.
19:27 <Rajinn> anyway, pathetique is here, and he's weird, toodles
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19:27 <Pathetique> LOL
19:27 <ct|kyle> Pathetique: dident we already determine that we all hate you :P (silence earlyer)
19:28 <Pathetique> No, I don't think that's the case.
19:28 <ct|kyle> oh darn :P
19:28 <Pathetique> dlh: LIMIT_SCORE 800 ftw
19:28 <Pathetique> ;)
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19:36 <ljrbot> New news from armagetronadbzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r664 merging with luke-jr's
19:36 <Pathetique> Hello again, Rajinn.
19:37 <Program> hi, asshole
19:37 <Program> will you please stop chatting with me?
19:37 <epsy> Pathetique, /ignore him where you can
19:38 <Pathetique> indeed.  Although, I was only being civil and saying "Hi"
19:38 <epsy> yup
19:38 <epsy> that's another reason to do it
19:38  * Program sighs
19:38 <epsy> what do you expect?
19:39 <epsy> insult me and I'll be supernice with you?
19:39 <Program> epsy, what are you on about?
19:39 <Pathetique> Who, me?  Iunno.  Sometimes its good for busting balls even further. ;)
19:39 <epsy> if you can't even remember it, gtfo
19:39  * epsy ignores
19:40 <Program> :X you guys really need a life
19:40 <epsy> Pathetique, no, not you
19:40 <Pathetique> oic
19:40 <Pathetique> LOL
19:40 <Program> i was asking for help, and this kid pathetique comes telling me to read a manual.  when in fact, there is not one.
19:40 <Pathetique> LMAO
19:40 <Program> how is that funny?
19:41 <Pathetique> "rtfm" is a figure of speech.  It means "figure it out"
19:41  * Pathetique ignores
19:41 <epsy> it means stop taking us for your bitch
19:41 <Program> well, if you don't like me asking questions, you don't have to answer me.
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19:42 <Program> and pathetiques answer was not necessary
19:42 <Pathetique> \o sine
19:42 <sinewav> hi
19:42 <epsy> hi
19:42 <ct|kyle> oi sinewav
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19:43 <sinewav> ugh I want to play, but there are only high rubber servers
19:43 <sinewav> wtf
19:43 <BabyBug> Why's everyone so mean to program?
19:43 <Pathetique> BabyBug: Its Rajinn/Codehunter.
19:44 <Program> and?
19:44 <epsy> sinewav, fail
19:44 <epsy> :-(
19:44 <Pathetique> Someone who does nothing but suck information out of whoever has what he needs and moves on to the next victim.
19:44 <ct|kyle> sinewav: ....
19:44 <ct|kyle> .si (Flag fort
19:44 <tronner> ct|kyle: Crazy Tronners Sty Testing (Flag fort): Players (0/10):
19:44 <Program> path, i dont even know you...
19:44 <sinewav> I'm losing hope in arma. too much hr
19:44 <epsy> and insults them when they give him advice
19:44 <BabyBug> Pathetique, that sounds like me... =(
19:44 <ct|kyle> I need a good testing of that
19:44 <Program> dont act like you know me path, for one, i don't even associate myself with people like you
19:45 <epsy> BabyBug, um, not at all
19:45 <Pathetique> sinewav: its cause high rubber is the easiest thing for people to play.
19:45 <BabyBug> epsy, i do nothing but suck information from lots of different people =P
19:45 <epsy> you little spier
19:45 <Pathetique> But you thank people afterwards.
19:45 <epsy> spider *
19:45 <BabyBug> Pathetique, i'm glad you imagine that xD
19:45 <sinewav> kyle: can't get into that server. version.
19:45 <BabyBug> lol
19:45 <Pathetique> lol
19:46 <luke-jr> Pathetique: no, CTF is easier
19:46 <Pathetique> Perhaps its how you go about it.  its not abrasive and doesn't annoy people. Yaddamean?
19:46 <Pathetique> luke-jr: trudat.
19:46 <luke-jr> respawning makes the game much better IMO
19:46 <BabyBug> .tea
19:46 <tronner> BabyBug: Fortress Café: Players (3/32): free kill (dlh@generalconsumption.org), Incorporeal, Monolyth
19:46 <BabyBug> sinewav!
19:46 <sinewav> yay!
19:46 <epsy> except respawning seems leaky
19:46 <sinewav> bye
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19:47 <Pathetique> a lilbit
19:47 <Program> Pathetique, I am wondering, what have I ever done to make you not like me?  I don't think I've ever talked to you but 5 times ever since you've played this game
19:47 <Program> I guess you are one that feeds off of rumours :)
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19:51 <Pathetique> \o dorka
19:51 <Durka> http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=19091&p=205489#p205489
19:51 <Durka> \o
19:51 <Durka> pathetic
19:51 <ct|kyle> o0 Durka
19:51 <Durka> 0o
19:52 <Pathetique> That makes sense, Durka.
19:52 <Durka> jaja
19:52 <Pathetique> Maybe make the conquer rate not as fast?
19:53 <ct|kyle> btw Durka you can upgrade your server to fix the ladder bugs
19:53 <Durka> yes i CAN
19:53 <Durka> but do i want to
19:53 <Durka> =/
19:53 <Pathetique> LOL
19:53 <Durka> i thought u said sty+ct branch was fuxed
19:53 <ct|kyle> 1/2 fixed too today
19:53 <ct|kyle> till today*
19:54 <Durka> so its not fuct anymore?
19:54 <ct|kyle> correct
19:54 <Pathetique> LOL@fuct
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19:55 <Durka> :D
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19:55 <Durka> ok
19:55 <Durka> ill do it
19:55 <Durka> ...would the easiest way
19:55 <Durka> to do it
19:55 <Durka> be
19:55 <Durka> renaming my /opt/armagetronad/ folder
19:55 <Durka> and then downloading and installing to that place
19:56 <Durka> then deleting the other shyt
19:56 <Pathetique> As long as none of the old files are in the directory
19:56 <Pathetique> Then go for it.
19:56 <dlh> bzr pull && make install ?
19:56 <ct|kyle> bzr pull && make && make install
19:57 <Pathetique> lololol
19:57 <BabyBug> or just make install...
19:58 <ct|kyle> you know BabyBug it does not take me long to dig a 6 foot hole
19:59 <BabyBug> Is that meant to mean something?
19:59 <ct|kyle> somewhat :P
19:59 <Pathetique> Maybe he likes to be thorough.
20:00 <ct|kyle> I was referring to dig it to place her in :P
20:01 <ct|kyle> and then fill it back in
20:01 <BabyBug> why? =(
20:01 <ct|kyle> why not :P
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20:05 <MilesPrower> Hi again
20:05 <Durka> http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=19091&p=205490#p205490
20:06 <MilesPrower> Well, I got my server working, but I can't seem to make a decent PHP script to show the ladder as a html table... any help?
20:07 <Pathetique> There is one.
20:07 <MrBougo> why is the font so huge on the forums?
20:07 <Pathetique> g2g
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20:07 <luke-jr> MrBougo: it wouldn't be if anyone could figure out the answer to that
20:07 <MrBougo> oh well, I thought it was desired
20:08 <Durka> luke-jr: i know the answer
20:08 <Durka> it was perfect till u fucked up the css :P
20:08 <MilesPrower> Does anyone have a good PHP script for a Armagetron ladder?
20:08 <luke-jr> Durka: not
20:08 <Durka> :D
20:08 <luke-jr> Durka: it was way too small before
20:09 <Durka> MilesPrower: http://durka.ath.cx/stats.php
20:09 <Durka> something like that?
20:09 <MilesPrower> Yeah
20:09 <Durka> u want that script?
20:09 <MilesPrower> Yeah plz. =)
20:09 <ct|kyle> that script has been around everywhere LOL
20:10 <BabyBug> It can't be that hard to fix the font size >.<
20:10 <ct|kyle> we should put it in launchpad
20:11 <MilesPrower> Durka: Where can I download script?
20:11 <Durka> MilesPrower: I have one with the players.txt included
20:11 <Durka> cant find it tho
20:12 <Durka> for now
20:12 <Durka> use it:
20:12 <Durka> http://rafb.net/p/uSbCHN63.html
20:12 <Durka> it's pretty ugly at the top
20:12 <MilesPrower> ty
20:12 <Durka> all that span style stuff
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20:12 <Durka> is for the server names
20:12 <Durka> er he left
20:12 <Durka> sweet
20:13 <Durka> and that works for my css
20:13 <Durka> :S
20:13 <Durka> he's gonna be fuct
20:13 <ct|kyle> heh
20:13 <ct|kyle> he'll be bacj
20:13 <ct|kyle> back*
20:13 <ct|kyle> this was his second trip here today
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20:15 <MilesPrower> Sorry about disappearing, my IRC client crashed.
20:16 <Durka> lol
20:16 <Durka> what i was saying
20:16 <Durka> was the span style stuff at the top is for the server names
20:16 <ct|kyle> some days I feel like a psychic
20:17 <Durka> it looks weird cuz each letter is a differnet color lol
20:17 <Durka> and what u have is for the css i use
20:17 <Durka> u'll probably be able to figure it out
20:18 <MilesPrower> kk.
20:18 <MilesPrower> Tyvm, I actually tried to learn PHP... It's pretty confusing xD
20:20 <ct|kyle> that is a good script to learn on, really was my first script
20:21 <Durka> ct|kyle: are you 100% positive the sty+ct branch isnt fuct up?
20:21 <Durka> i dont wanna fuck up my shittt
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20:22 <ct|kyle> well it has all the patches in it
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20:23 <epsy> iccleoldme, already?
20:23 -!- iccleoldme is now known as BabyBug
20:23 <BabyBug> What?
20:23 <epsy> [22:22] * iccleoldme [n=babybug@87.115.138.63] a rejoint #armagetron
20:23 <BabyBug> already what?
20:23 <BabyBug> :s
20:24 <epsy> already having your connection go boom :)
20:25 <BabyBug> I'm using a friends laptop atm...The wireless keeps disconnecting on it :s
20:25 <BabyBug> it's crappy
20:25 <epsy> yeah, excuses
20:25 <BabyBug> Don't get me wrong mind....The internet in Wales is crappy anyway
20:26 <ct|kyle> that is probably because you don't know how to speak
20:26 <epsy> s/^.*internet in//
20:26 <epsy> :o)
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20:27 <BabyBug> epsy, i hope you die a slow, painful and humiliating death
20:27 <ct|kyle> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKiBEA58sxI&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.webuser.co.uk%2Fnews%2F279693.html%3Faff%3Drss&feature=player_embedded  << French are retarded
20:28 <epsy> so is your url
20:28 <epsy> lol, TV was talking about that crap right now
20:28 <epsy> who cares anyway >.>
20:34 <ct|kyle> Durka: yes it does fix it
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20:42 <epsy> :O
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20:45 <BabyBug> when is someone going to find out what happened to armabot :@
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21:01 <Durka> BabyBug: i know i can count on u for help, ping
21:01 <BabyBug> Durka, erm...?
21:01 <Durka> when im installing the arma dedicated server
21:01 <Durka> right now
21:01 <Durka> i have it installed to
21:01 <Durka>  /opt/armagetronad/
21:01 <Durka> theoretically, can i install it wherever i want
21:01 <Durka> like
21:02 <Durka>  /arma/babybug/is/a/noob/
21:02 <luke-jr> does BabyBug even do anything with Arma?
21:02 <BabyBug> How am i meant to know that? :|
21:02 <Durka> no, this is a linux question kinda
21:02 <Durka> luke-jr: halp
21:02 <Durka> :D
21:02 <luke-jr> Durka: I have yet to see a question
21:03 <Durka> can i install it wherever i want
21:03 <Durka> ?
21:03 <BabyBug> luke-jr, hey i do stuff!
21:03 <BabyBug> =\
21:03 <luke-jr> BabyBug: you do?
21:04 <BabyBug> no not really =(
21:04 <BabyBug> I would if i could...I just don't know how to do stuff =)
21:05 <epsy> Durka, yes
21:05 <Vanhayes> just pretend you do stuff im sure no one will notice
21:05 <Durka> k
21:05 <BabyBug> Vanhayes, Ok i'll do that =)
21:07 <BabyBug> Why is the changelog kept in the NEWS file? :s
21:07 <BabyBug> that's just silly
21:07 <epsy> what's better?
21:07 <epsy> diving into 1k commit messages?
21:07 <BabyBug> CHANGELOG
21:07 <BabyBug> call the file that? :P
21:07 <epsy> make a patch :D
21:07 <BabyBug> ...
21:08 <Vanhayes> she doesnt really do stuff
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21:08 <epsy> well, harrass z-man or another admin about it
21:08 <nsh22> haiho
21:09 <nsh22> ct|kyle: have you worked with java?
21:09 <epsy> guru3, Tigers Network &amp; Co.
21:09 <BabyBug> :|
21:09 <epsy> (that's how your subforum is named in the forums)
21:09 <epsy> Lucifer, BabyBug needs to harrass you a second
21:10 <BabyBug> lol...
21:10 <nsh22> she harasdses at all times...
21:10 <nsh22> harrasses*
21:10 <nsh22> :P
21:10 <BabyBug> harasses*
21:10 <nsh22> w/e
21:11 <epsy> :P
21:12 <Durka> nsh22: yes he has
21:12 <nsh22> i need to know if any knowledge from java can be transfered to arma (c++)
21:13 <Vanhayes> im going to say no
21:14 <nsh22> wehy not?
21:16 <Vanhayes> im just guessing, might be yes might be no
21:16 <Durka> thats like saying does html knowledge help
21:16 <Durka> im guessing no too
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21:29 <BabyBug> HELP! Trunk won't compile.... http://rafb.net/p/4bSmIt41.html
21:29 <BabyBug> please... =)
21:32 <Durka_> PinkTomato: ping
21:32 -!- Durka_ is now known as Durka
21:33 <PinkTomato> Durka: pong
21:33 <Durka> durka:~/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct# ./configure --prefix=/arma/styct --disable-glout --enable-automakedefaults --disable-sysinstall --disable-etc --disable-useradd --disable-initscripts --enable-armathentication
21:33 <Durka> -bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
21:33 <Durka> oO
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21:34 <BabyBug> Durka, ./bootstrap.sh
21:34 <Durka> i had to do that first right?
21:34 <Durka> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Running_Multiple_Servers_on_a_single_Linux_computer
21:34 <BabyBug> Do ./bootstrap first
21:34 <noob13> .tea
21:34 <Durka> that damn page never tells me that :p
21:34 <tronner> noob13: Fortress Café: Players (12/32): -»|hoop, ¦×¦ Hoax, ct-eddie, CT¤Tadd, orly?, Penguin, Player 1, Radian, stax, TheN00b, `Ww Crucifix, ~|DS|~zion
21:34 <Durka> k
21:34 <PinkTomato> that page is annyoying outdated
21:34 <Durka> its been fixed up a bit
21:34 <nsh22> then update it
21:34 <PinkTomato> plus the bash scripts could be made nicer :)
21:35  * PinkTomato cannot do bash well
21:35 <BabyBug> in fairness, that wiki doesn't assume you got the source from bzr =)
21:36 <PinkTomato> :), has the compile method been changed to cmake ?
21:36 <nsh22> what is bash?
21:36 <epsy> er
21:36 <epsy> hm?
21:36 <epsy> PinkTomato, not on trunk
21:36 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, Nope
21:37 <BabyBug> nsh22, bash is bash
21:37 <BabyBug> shell environment
21:37 <nsh22> .....
21:37 <nsh22> ok
21:37 <epsy> it's in developement, and all scripts shoould be made in python
21:37 <epsy> nsh22, wp it
21:37 <PinkTomato> nsh22: think DOS, but actually useable
21:37 <nsh22> ...
21:37 <nsh22> lol
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21:38 <epsy> PinkTomato, why are you asking about cmake support?
21:39 <Vanhayes> yay im 2108 dollars richer
21:39 <PinkTomato> epsy: just wondering if I update arma tonight, if I need to figure it out :)
21:39 <epsy> ah ok
21:39 <epsy> bbl
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21:41 <nsh22> Vanhayes: how?
21:41 <Vanhayes> taxes
21:41 <nsh22> so technically, your not richer, your just $2108 less in debt
21:42 <BabyBug> Why do you assume he's in debt?
21:42 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p508716B1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron
21:42 <BabyBug> z-man, ping
21:42 <Vanhayes> no, the government gave me money back caus ei paid them too much taxes
21:42 <nsh22> wait, rephrase: the canadian deficit is now $2108 bigger :P
21:43 <PinkTomato> $2108 is a lot to be over taxed on
21:43 <z-man> BabyBug: what?
21:43 <Vanhayes> thanks to me it grows by $768 every 2 weeks
21:43 <nsh22> Vanhayes: how did you pay MORE???
21:43 <Vanhayes> i worked alot
21:43 <BabyBug> z-man, Why is NEWS called NEWS and not CHANGELOG?
21:44 <Vanhayes> im not sure how taxes really work, all i know is i claimed around 2000 or so and they gave me it
21:45 <Vanhayes> probably could have got alot more if i saved reciepts
21:45 <z-man> Because CHANGELOG is the detailed changelog, traditionally. at least AFAIK.
21:45 <BabyBug> Oh...ok =)
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22:09 <Vanhayes> electric dog collars hurt
22:09 <BabyBug> Anybody know why this is doing this? Latest revision from trunk.. http://rafb.net/p/4bSmIt41.html :@
22:10 <nsh22> Vanhayes: wtf did ou havce a dog collar on?
22:11 <Vanhayes> i didnt have it on, my neighbors dog got stuck in my yard and was barking so i took it off her and walked her across and got shocked
22:12 <Vanhayes> didnt think i was touching the prongs, but i was
22:12 <nsh22> lmao
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22:33 <BabyBug> @whoever it matters to.... Arma won't compile with the gold linker
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22:44 <ivantis> What happened to the forums? They look all...different
22:44 <BabyBug> Try reading the forums
22:46 <nsh22> ivantis: upgrade
22:55 <ivantis> Yahoo [Bot] and Google [Bot]?
22:55 <ivantis> zomg
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23:01 <ivantis> guru3, you administrate the forums, right? There needs to be a link at the top to go to the root forums (just http://forums3.armagetronad.net)
23:01 <ivantis> guru3, root of the forums**
23:02 <guru3> it's called "Board Index"
23:02 <guru3> present at the top and bottom of every page except the index itself
23:03 <ivantis> OOO
23:03 <ivantis> I see
23:04 <guru3> you can also click the header
23:04 <ivantis> Not the entire image though, only the part that says "ARMAGETRON FORUMS"
23:05 <guru3> because of how the html is constructed
23:05 <BabyBug> Why is the font still so big? >.<
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23:06 <ivantis> And why isn't SPACE-LAB in the servers categories thing?
23:07 <guru3> ?
23:08 <ivantis> ?
23:08 <guru3> 23:06:30 < ivantis> And why isn't SPACE-LAB in the servers categories thing?
23:08 <guru3> i have no idea what you're talking about
23:09 <ivantis> http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewforum.php?f=70
23:09 <ivantis> That thing
23:09 <guru3> what space lab though?
23:09 <guru3> afaik ever forum that was ever there is still there
23:10 <ivantis> SPACE-LAB Shooting, my server
23:10 <ivantis> It was never there before though
23:10 <guru3> you have to specifically request it
23:10 <ivantis> how?
23:10 <guru3> by asking me
23:11 <ivantis> guru3, pretty please, will you add SPACE-LAB servers to the forums?
23:11 <guru3> no
23:12 <ivantis> why not?
23:12 <guru3> you don't want me to answer that question
23:13 <ivantis> Who are all these bots? MSN [Bot]?
23:13 <ivantis> Search engines have their own logins?
23:13 <guru3> it's a feature of phpbb3
23:14 <guru3> to show what bots are currently indexing the forums
23:14 <ivantis> O
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23:22 <ivantis> fail
23:22 <ivantis> http://open.thumbshots.org/image.aspx?url=forums.armagetronad.net
23:23 <epsy> .calc /( 1 * ( 0.3 * 3 - 0.25 * 2 -0.1 ) )
23:23 <epsy> .calc ( 1 * ( 0.3 * 3 - 0.25 * 2 -0.1 ) )
23:23 <epsy> ]calc ( 1 * ( 0.3 * 3 - 0.25 * 2 -0.1 ) )
23:23 <ljrbot> epsy: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
23:24 <epsy> ]google calc ( 1 * ( 0.3 * 3 - 0.25 * 2 -0.1 ) )
23:24 <ljrbot> epsy: Error: "google" is not a valid command.
23:24 <epsy> @google calc ( 1 * ( 0.3 * 3 - 0.25 * 2 -0.1 ) )
23:24 <teabot> epsy: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
23:24 <BabyBug> epsy, 0.3!
23:24 <epsy> ?
23:29 <epsy> gah, why are people using rubber as a way to measure how deep you grinded ?
23:31 <Vanhayes> its the easist way i guess
23:31 <ivantis> Grinded? Ground, epsy
23:31 <Vanhayes> too many people are fixated on it anyways
23:32 <ivantis> "Grinder! Kick!"
23:32 <epsy> here's what I just read
23:32 <epsy> « In another words can a player (i'm talking about the center attacker) who digs 4.9 just once beat a double grinder who also did 4.9 on the 180? »
23:33 <ivantis> 4.9 what?
23:33 <epsy> I guess I'll go deep in rubber and explain it from beginning to end :à
23:33 <ivantis> epsy, did you ever get a new phone?
23:36 <Vanhayes> ivantis, doesnt he ignore you?
23:37 <ivantis> I think he unignored me
23:37 <Vanhayes> speaking of phones anyone know when that new sony Idou comes out?
23:38 <Vanhayes> my phone doesnt even ring anymore so i think i might get a new one
23:39 <ivantis> You should get an HTC Dream
23:39 <ivantis> They're awesome
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23:40 <Vanhayes> ivantis, what is awesome about them?
23:40 <animuson> is it possible to disable single player mode / make it so one player still runs on the multiplayer mode
23:40 <animuson> ?
23:40 <ivantis> They run the Android OS
23:41 <ivantis> Open source phone operating system
23:41 <ivantis> Totally geektastic and awesome
23:41 <Vanhayes> hmm, cant remember what the Idou is suppose to run
23:41 <Vanhayes> though it has a 12 megapixel camera on it
23:43 <ivantis> 12? These Dreams only have 3.2 or something
23:44 <animuson> anyone?
23:44 <ivantis> animuson, I don't understand your question
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23:45 <Vanhayes> animuson, im pretty sure there is a way, if i understand you
23:47 <Vanhayes> dont know off hand what the settings are tho sorry
23:48 <animuson> i want to disable sp mode
23:48 <animuson> so it uses the same functions as it would if there were 10 players
23:48 <animuson> with only 1
23:49 <Vanhayes> ya, so if you had a fortress server, it would still be fort with one person in it right?
23:49 <animuson> well i run a racing server
23:49 <Vanhayes> or CTF or racing or whichever mode
23:49 <animuson> and it wont store times for sp mode cause it runs dif functions
23:51 <Vanhayes> hmm, im not sure if you can do that
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