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00:00 <zmanuel> No. The main purpose of protobuf was that we have more possibilities to modify our messages without breaking compatibility.
00:00 <zmanuel> The compression is a nice side effect :)
00:01 <luke-jr> imo, protobuf makes compatibility more difficult
00:01 <luke-jr> I don't know how to replace a tColor with a tGradient :p
00:01 <luke-jr> but I guess the old netsync wasn't any easier
00:03 <zmanuel> definitely not :)
00:03 <zmanuel> Remind me tomorrow to write something on 'how to change protobuf messages without breaking compatibility' on the wiki.
00:04 <luke-jr> why tomorrow? ☺
00:04 <zmanuel> Because it's midnight here and I would write only crap if I did it now.
00:05 <luke-jr> XD
00:12 <Lucifer> GodTodd__: ping
00:17 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9086 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (20 files in 5 dirs): Manuel Moos: Merged Luke-Jr's zone cleanup branch.
00:18 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9087 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/resource/tResource.cpp): Manuel Moos: Merging old map compatibility branch. Dunno what it does, but it doesn't break stuff :)
00:19 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9088 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/tron/zone/zShape.cpp): Manuel Moos: Applying legacy alpha factor to incoming 0.2.8 zone syncs.
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01:14 <smoothice> luke-jr: would you mind compiling armagetronad-v2sty quickly? i cannot do it on Osx
01:14 <luke-jr> I would.
01:15 <smoothice> THanks!
01:15 <smoothice> rev 863
01:16 <smoothice> luke-jr: I think I also need to make a zones v2 sty map
01:16 <luke-jr> smoothice: no, it should work with already existing maps
01:16 <luke-jr> and please reread what I said
01:16 <luke-jr> eg, I would (mind).
01:17 <smoothice> oh
01:17 <smoothice> oops
01:18 <smoothice> fine w/e
01:19 <smoothice> luke-jr: If BZR reports Text conflict in MacOS/Armagetron Advanced.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj
01:19 <smoothice> 1 conflicts encountered.
01:20 <smoothice> luke-jr: does that mean it resolved the conflict??
01:20 <luke-jr> no
01:20 <luke-jr> if it "resolved" it, it wouldn't be a conflict
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01:21 <smoothice> how do I know what the conflict was?
01:21 <kamp> anyone got an idea about how to get nickserv to let go of a past username?
01:22 <kamp> anyone around
01:22  * kamp sees a cricket go past
01:23 <smoothice> kamp: Not that I know of
01:23 <smoothice> kamp: try #freenode
01:23 <kamp> thanks
01:24 <kamp> anyway, how's it hangin in here?
01:24 <kamp> Armagetron moving forward?
01:24 <smoothice> yep
01:24 <smoothice> luke-jr: how do I know what the conflict was? it didn't tell me
01:25 <kamp> good to hear, good to hear
01:25  * kamp slouches off a bit
01:26 <smoothice> luke-jr: w/e, I'll just not push that merge
01:27 <luke-jr> open the file
01:28 <smoothice> ok
01:28 <smoothice> ok opened
01:28 <smoothice> How do I find the conflict?
01:30 <luke-jr> grep ========
01:31 <smoothice> <<<<<<< TREE
01:31 <smoothice> =======
01:31 <smoothice> >>>>>>> MERGE-SOURCE
01:32 <Lucifer> heya kamp
01:32 <Lucifer> GodTodd__: ping :)
01:35 <kamp> hey luci
01:35 <kamp> say, do you know who made the armagetron page on facebook?
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01:36 <cpayan> sigh
01:36 <cpayan> I can't remember the passwd for this one
01:37 <luke-jr> cpayan: which one?
01:37 <cpayan> The actual page
01:37 <cpayan> not the groups
01:37 <cpayan> I saw there are two sizable groups, but the page (with fans and all) is rather small
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01:48 <cpayan> beautiful
01:48 <cpayan> got my nickname
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01:59 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r862 Merge from mainline || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r866 ZONE_ALPHA_SERVER now only gets applied if no color at all a...
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02:05  * cpayan is reading the forum thread on revitalization. It seems as though armagetron needs a thorough cleaning, in code and image, before anything else can be done. Thoughts? Lucifer? oh, and hi fonkay :)
02:15 <Concord> smoothice: could I have admin in nw fortress for tomorrows ladle, I play in opening round there
02:15 <Concord> :)
02:16 <smoothice> Concord: sure... I gotta go compile 0.2.8 on my friend's server that I'm arbitrarily  using
02:16 <smoothice> since my vps cannot handle it
02:16 <smoothice> lol
02:16 <Concord> lol ok
02:16 <smoothice> please PM me your global id
02:16 <Concord> Concord@ct
02:16 <smoothice> k
02:17 <Concord> thynx
02:17 <Concord> ;)
02:18 <smoothice> Concord: I hope my friend doesn't get mad :)
02:18 <Concord> Lol! :D
02:18 <ct|kyle> heh
02:18 <smoothice> I asked him like a month ago
02:18 <smoothice> lol
02:18 <smoothice> he's the dude that hosts id tech racing
02:18 <smoothice> if you've seen it
02:18 <Concord> I have,
02:18 <smoothice> yeha
02:18 <Concord> never gone in tho
02:18 <Concord> :P
02:19 <smoothice> If he says no you're probably going to kill me
02:19 <smoothice> I'll manage I guess lol
02:20 <ct|kyle> we could put up a CT 3 LOL
02:23 <smoothice> frick
02:23 <smoothice> lolz
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02:29 <Concord> or you could just convert one of your df servers to fort for a couple hours ...
02:29 <ivantis2> or you could shut down all the servers
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02:40 <luke-jr> ]later tell zmanuel http://developer.download.nvidia.com/SDK/10/direct3d/Source/StencilRoutedKBuffer/doc/StencilRoutedKBuffer.pdf
02:40 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
02:40 <luke-jr> ]later tell zmanuel http://developer.nvidia.com/object/Interactive_Order_Transparency.html
02:40 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
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02:45 <luke-jr> #kick ivantis2
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02:45 <ivantis2> very unneccessary
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02:46 <luke-jr> CPAN imposter
02:46 <luke-jr> #kick CPAN
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02:47 <CPAN> im getting it dropped
02:47 <CPAN> for CPAN2 to use
02:47 <CPAN> noob
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02:52 <nsh22> hey
02:52 <nsh22> any1 up for dsome fort?
02:55 <smoothice> nsh22: hi
02:55 <nsh22> yo
02:55 <nsh22> how did tourny go today
02:55 <nsh22> btw im in fort cafe
02:56 <smoothice> I missed it
02:57 <nsh22> why?
02:57 <nsh22> nvm i wasnt there either :P
02:59 <nsh22> smoothice: wanna practise for ladle?
03:00 <smoothice> nsh22: doing zv2 sty right now port
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03:00 <nsh22> ah
03:01 <nsh22> smoothice: btw do you know why bye is no longer listyed as a clkan member?
03:01 <smoothice> :O
03:01 <smoothice> did he resign?
03:01 <nsh22> i dunno
03:01 <nsh22> but on the forums his name is in the user group, not he clan group
03:02 <nsh22> i shall look into this
03:02 <smoothice> yeah k
03:02 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r865 Xcode source files sort and zFlag header work || [armagetronad-v2sty] r864 Added zFlag to Xcode project || [armagetronad-v2sty] r863 reapplied zFlag after merge from mainline
03:03 <nsh22> ohhh its a globalk mod
03:03 <nsh22> my b
03:03 <nsh22> now i remember
03:03 <nsh22> hes our forum moderator :P
03:06 <smoothice> umm
03:07 <smoothice> global mods are black and so are users
03:12 <nsh22> ill change that
03:16 <nsh22> ]yandere
03:16 <ljrbot> nsh22: You're already playing a game on this network. You can only be in one at a time.
03:16 <nsh22> rly?
03:17 <smoothice> luke-jr: The constructor variables have to be declared in the header file. Should they be private or public?
03:19 <nsh22> ]yandere
03:19 <ljrbot> A yandere game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "]yandere" to join.
03:19 <nsh22> \o/
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03:20 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
03:21 <ljrbot> There aren't enough players to start a yandere game. Try again later.
03:25 <nsh22> o0
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03:27 <nsh22> #si fort
03:27 <@armabot> nsh22: Wild West  =Fortress Shootout=: Players (1/12): Spec Ops
03:28 <smoothice> luke-jr: ???
03:31 <nsh22> luke-jr: ping
03:32 <cpayan> la la
03:42 <nsh22> smoothice: do you know what the v1 and v2 zones are?
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03:46 <luke-jr> nsh22: ……………………………….. do you?
03:48 <nsh22> no, thats why i asking
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03:54 <nsh22> anyways, what is the v1 and v2 zones and what are their differnces/goals
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03:55 <niveus> hello :)
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03:59 <GodTodd> Lucifer, pong
04:08 <smoothice> luke-jr: How do I get the current team of a gCycle?
04:09 <smoothice> luke-jr: Do I need to get the ePlayer of the cycle to find its eTeam?
04:32 <nsh22> #night
04:32 <@armabot> Good night nsh22!
04:33 <smoothice> bye nsh22
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05:18 <tsrk> how much bandwidth does a server generally use?
05:24 <smoothice> tsrk: it depends on what MAX_OUT_RATE is set at
05:30 <tsrk> well, my real question is: would 5GB / month of bandwidth be enough?
05:32 <luke-jr> tsrk: I host servers.
05:32 <luke-jr> http://lightfoot.dashjr.org
05:32 <luke-jr> ☺
05:32 <tsrk> i'm currently paying $5 for a VDS w/ 5GB bandwidth
05:32 <luke-jr> tsrk: I know an empty-24/7 server uses about 100 MB/mo
05:33 <tsrk> i'd assume the players would use most of it though :P
05:33 <luke-jr> once you add players, it varies a lot
05:33 <ct|kyle> if you run 6 semi popular servers it gets into the 50-60 GB
05:33 <luke-jr> tsrk: my cheapest VPS plan is $11/mo (on special)
05:34 <smoothice> luke-jr: How do I get the current team of a gCycle?
05:34 <smoothice>  Do I need to get the ePlayer of the cycle to find its eTeam?
05:34 <tsrk> oh wow, 50gb, that'd be a lot too much :P
05:34 <tsrk> oh
05:34 <tsrk> 6
05:34 <luke-jr> smoothice: not sure
05:34 <tsrk> i missed that :P
05:34 <tsrk> still
05:34 <tsrk> 10gb
05:35 <luke-jr> tsrk: that $11/mo VPS I offer has 32 GB/mo transfer ☺
05:35 <smoothice> fsckvps.com
05:35 <tsrk> luke, nice
05:36 <tsrk> smoothice, i've looked @ that but they look unprofessional, where did you find out about them?
05:36 <tsrk> luke-jr, specs on that?
05:36 <luke-jr> tsrk: 128 MB RAM (burst to 256 MB), 5 GB disk space, 1 IP
05:37 <smoothice> tsrk: I use them
05:37 <smoothice> tsrk: but go with luke he's better
05:37 <tsrk> luke-jr, 128mb ram :S
05:37 <luke-jr> tsrk: you need more?
05:38 <tsrk> i thinks o
05:38  * luke-jr actually started his Arma hosting w/ 64 MB RAM in at least one case ☺
05:38 <tsrk> current one has 256
05:38 <tsrk> :O
05:38 <tsrk> 64mb?
05:38 <luke-jr> tsrk: My $12/mo plan has 256 MB RAM (512 MB burst), 8 GB disk, 64 GB transfer
05:38 <tsrk> only $1 more?
05:39 <luke-jr> for that plan, in USD
05:40 <tsrk> hmm
05:40 <tsrk> tempting
05:40 <tsrk> what can i get for $13? :P
05:40 <luke-jr> http://lightfoot.dashjr.org/?page=vps
05:40 <luke-jr> the next plan up is $15/mo -- 512 MB RAM (1 GB burst), 16 GB disk, 256 GB xfer
05:41 <tsrk> :O openvz
05:41 <tsrk> is that the shared kernel one?
05:41 <luke-jr> yeah
05:42 <tsrk> does it work well?
05:42 <luke-jr> very well
05:42 <tsrk> like better than vmware and stuff?
05:42 <luke-jr> no overhead at all
05:42 <tsrk> wow
05:42 <tsrk> nice
05:42 <luke-jr> that's why I use it over VMWare/Xen/etc
05:42 <tsrk> don't they all have to run the same OS though?
05:42 <tsrk> and
05:42 <luke-jr> same kernel only
05:42 <tsrk> is that also what vserver does?
05:42 <tsrk> ah
05:42 <luke-jr> the other parts of the OS can be different
05:42 <luke-jr> VServer is the same concept yeah
05:42 <luke-jr> OpenVZ is more mature though
05:42 <tsrk> but could you have like debian and redhat running the same kernel?
05:43 <luke-jr> right
05:43 <tsrk> wow nice
05:43 <tsrk> i've been messing around with vmware lately
05:43 <tsrk> it seems good for testing stuff
05:43 <luke-jr> Xen is a little better than VMWare on overhead
05:43 <tsrk> isn't there a risk with VMs interfering with each other and stuff though?
05:43 <luke-jr> but even then, there's a bit more lag ☹
05:43 <tsrk> through the kernel?
05:43 <luke-jr> only if there's a kernel bug
05:44 <tsrk> but normally they shouldn't?
05:44 <luke-jr> right
05:44 <tsrk> ah ok
05:46 <tsrk> can I run ubuntu server 8.10?
05:46 <tsrk> also, what's the connection speed?
05:46 <luke-jr> yeah
05:46 <luke-jr> generally 100 Mbit shared, but at least 10 Mbit
05:47 <tsrk> ok
05:48 <tsrk> wow that's tempting
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06:12 <smoothice> luke-jr: can you assist me for a moment?
06:13 <luke-jr> ?
06:14 <smoothice> ok
06:15 <smoothice> I'm actually making progress on this port
06:17 <smoothice> but
06:17 <luke-jr> but!
06:17 <smoothice> here's the problem
06:17 <smoothice> How do I get the current team of a gCycle?
06:17 <smoothice> because
06:18 <smoothice> I need to check in OnEnter
06:18 <smoothice> If the cycle entered is on the same team that owns the flag
06:18 <smoothice> and if so, return the flag
06:18 <luke-jr> there is no OnEnter
06:18 <smoothice> OnInside
06:18 <luke-jr> read gCycle.h
06:18 <luke-jr> ☺
06:18 <smoothice> K
06:18 <smoothice> k*
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06:38 <smoothice> luke-jr: The word "team" isn't in gCycle.h :(
06:38 <luke-jr> I said read, not grep.
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06:40 <smoothice> luke-jr: I don't see it either :/
06:42 <luke-jr> also, you want to use OnEntry for this probably
06:42 <smoothice> I don't see current team
06:42 <smoothice> crud
06:42 <smoothice> I don't see any methods related to getting information on a gCycle
06:46 <luke-jr> ePlayerNetID *Player()const
06:46 <luke-jr> that's on a parent class
06:47 <smoothice> huh?
06:47 <smoothice> what do I do with that
06:48 <luke-jr> which has CurrentTeam
06:48 <smoothice> I have a gCycle pointer called target
06:48 <luke-jr> (eTeam)
06:48 <luke-jr> eTeam * team = cycle->Player()->CurrentTeam();
06:48 <smoothice> Ah
06:48 <smoothice> easy
06:51 <luke-jr> night
06:51 <smoothice> ok
06:55 <smoothice> luke-jr: you still here]
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08:14 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r866 Header file completion of zFlag and implementation work
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11:10 <wrtlprnft> zmanuel, luke-jr: I didn't suggest it was a good idea, I just answered your question about compatibility
11:10 <wrtlprnft> #cfg min_players
11:10 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: MIN_PLAYERS: Minimum number of players (default: 4) || SP_MIN_PLAYERS: Minimum number of players in single player mode (default: 0) || SP_TEAM_MIN_PLAYERS: Minimum number of players per team in single player mode (default: 1) || TEAM_MIN_PLAYERS: Minimum number of players per team (default: 1)
11:10 <zmanuel> huh? aren't the defaults the other way round?
11:11 <wrtlprnft> hmm, indeed, that's weird
11:11  * zmanuel should put ljrbot on his ignore list. it's stalking him.
11:12 <wrtlprnft> you have to know that this is just a manipulated --doc that prints the current value (but without any special config so it should be the default in most cases)
11:12 <wrtlprnft> how's that?
11:13 <zmanuel> luke-jr is giving it messages to deliver to me
11:13 <zmanuel> and since my nick changes and I don't bother to reset it, I usually get them days later.
11:14 -!- zmanuel is now known as z-man
11:14 <wrtlprnft>  #later tell *z*man* works fine for me :-)
11:15 <z-man> #m luke-jr The stencil method is fucking shader intensive. We can't use that while still claiming to run on old hardware.
11:15 <@armabot> z-man: The operation succeeded.
11:15 <z-man> gaaa!
11:15 <BabyBug> language!!
11:15 <wrtlprnft> huh?
11:15 <epsy> could a GRUB floppy boot something from an usb mass storage device?
11:16 <z-man> Now I got another old message from ljrbot
11:16 <wrtlprnft> z-man: never claim intel driver upgrades can't hurt. At least on linux they do quite often
11:16 <z-man> heh :)
11:16 <epsy> you're on the TTM replacement update?
11:17 <epsy> with the TTM replacement never having being actually implemented by anything else than the driver itself, and the driver removing support for TTM ?
11:17 <epsy> that's a hell of an upgrade
11:17 <z-man> #m luke-jr and depth peeling was known to me. It requires a hell of a lot of rendering passes.
11:17 <@armabot> z-man: The operation succeeded.
11:19 <wrtlprnft> err, i don't even mean that. currently for any version > 2.4.3 i have to (pretend to) have an external monitor or it will flicker once in a while and crash after a few hours, requiring a reboot to get graphics again (although i can still ssh in)
11:20 <wrtlprnft> z-man: would it really be that hard to just do a bubblesort step on the transparent objects by distance from the camera once per frame?
11:21 <wrtlprnft> that should work as long as they don't intersect
11:29 <epsy> wrtlprnft, would you mind testing if you can crash your PC with warsow?
11:36 <z-man> no, it wouldn't be too hard, but if you actually modify the game object order in the array, it may break debug recordings once you move the camera around, which is the one change I want to allow while playing back a recording :)
11:37 <z-man> Sorting them in a separate list would work, of course.
11:37 <z-man> I'm constantly thinking about splitting the render part of objects from the game logic part.
11:37 <z-man> the game logic bit would still reside on the grid
11:38 <z-man> while the render part would be sorted into a quad/octreee and also a material tree, so they can get rendered with optimized/correct order.
11:38 <z-man> Plus, where they can be frustum-culled.
11:40 <wrtlprnft> MVC?
11:40 <Lucifer> GodTodd: pijg
11:40 <Lucifer> er
11:40 <Lucifer> ping
11:40 <wrtlprnft> epsy: would that require me to boot into windows?
11:40  * Lucifer has had a lot to drink
11:41  * Lucifer managed to get in a hot tub with complete stranger, totally naken
11:41 <Lucifer> er
11:41 <Lucifer> totalley naked
11:41 <Lucifer> obviously I've had too much to drink
11:43 <wrtlprnft> now that's the kind of thing i don't *need* to know :-P
11:43 <Lucifer> haha
11:43 <Lucifer> wwell,  it was fun
11:44 <Lucifer> it was a meetup taht I was led to belive waan mostly my divorce-support gorup, but turned out to be a little different
11:44 <Lucifer> plenty of wine, though
11:44 <Lucifer> although t he girl I thought I could fool around with got involved with somebody else
11:44 <PinkTomato> Quick Question: Anyone know if I will I need to upgrade my ladle server for tonight?
11:44 <Lucifer> apparently I've got a lot to learn about that stuff
11:49 <z-man> curse me for that boring stable relationship, I guess.
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11:50 <Lucifer> what weirded me out was random people that knew me
11:50 <Lucifer> that weiredeed me out a lot
11:50 <Lucifer> (of couse, they looked at my picuter on my meetup profile, but it still weirded me out)
11:56  * BabyBug looks shamefully upon Lucifer 8-)
11:56 <Lucifer> man, I deserve all yur shame
11:56 <Lucifer> how can I walk into a room full of women checking me out, and not get laid?
11:56 <BabyBug> too old? =P
11:57 <Lucifer> I wa sone of the youngest in the corwd
11:57 <Lucifer> most were 40+
11:57 <BabyBug> ew
11:57 <Lucifer> phucking pathetic
11:57 <Lucifer> I shouldn've gotten laid, it's just damned sad that I didn't
11:58 <BabyBug> more to the point though...How do you get naked in a hot tub and still not get laid? that's stranger :P
11:58 <Lucifer> 2:1 guy/girl ratio
11:58 <epsy> wrtlprnft, no
11:58 <Lucifer> the girl I talked into jumping end ended up across from me
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11:58 <Lucifer> I've had too much to drink, heh
11:59 <BabyBug> well that was stupid! =P
11:59 <Lucifer> hit me up with it in the mornming, when I can talk straight
11:59 <BabyBug> lol ^^
12:00 <Lucifer> IU had fun, though, that's what really matters
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12:00 <BabyBug> *raises eyebrow*
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12:10 <Lucifer> hopefully when I'm sober, I'll be able to examine the data and figure out how I didn't get laid
12:11 <BabyBug> examine the data? it's not a science experiment!
12:12 <Lucifer> although, I'm prepared to acknowledge that there's no logic to it, and therefore I may not be able to figure it out
12:12 <Lucifer> it is too a science experiment
12:12 <BabyBug> ...
12:12  * BabyBug slaps
12:12  * Lucifer dodges
12:12 <BabyBug> -sigh-
12:13 <Lucifer> see, at some point, I'm not sure when, I got magically put in charge of the hot tub conversation
12:13 <Lucifer> not sure how that happened, but I did my best with the role that was thrust upon me
12:14 <BabyBug> and your best was terrible no doubt =)
12:14 <Lucifer> anyway, I'm gonna roll up my last cigarette, smoke it, and then go to bed
12:14 <BabyBug> what?!
12:15 <BabyBug> I thought you were giving up?
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13:16 <wrtlprnft> #later tell *epsy* well, i only get about 5spf, but it didn't crash so far…
13:16 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
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13:52 <pavelo> Lacrymosa: it seems i will be able to play after all
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14:33 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/arma/?min=741
14:33 <wrtlprnft> finally i can play my own maps :-)
14:34 <Flex> i got 10-20fps when i tried
14:35 <wrtlprnft> well, the tronsector one gives me about 60fps when i turn the minimap off
14:36 <Concord> #si cafe
14:36 <@armabot> Concord: Fortress Café: Players (8/32): Concord, CRaZy B3eR, Lenco, Monkey.D.Luffy, Pez, prupixie, Virg <3, BaTTaL, waterglow
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14:37 <nsh22> hey
14:37 <Flex> Concord, so what has happened to the vcL team?
14:37 <nsh22> the ladle starts at 1:45p EST corrcect?
14:38 <Flex> correct
14:38 <nsh22> Flex: on the wiki it says they merged with nw
14:38 <Concord> flex you have a bye it seems
14:38 <nsh22> kk so ill be on here for 1 30 :P
14:38 <Flex> maybe we don't want a bye
14:38 <nsh22> well you get one anyways
14:38 <Flex> doesn't that call for a reshuffle?
14:38 <Flex> well i don't want one..
14:38 <nsh22> why not?
14:39 <Concord> flex, were not changing the board day of
14:39 <nsh22> lol
14:39 <Concord> that would be mayhem
14:39 <Flex> not really
14:40 <nsh22> #weather innisfil
14:40 <@armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Innisfil, Innisfil, Ontario is 13.3°F (8:40 AM EST on March 01, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: -7.6°F. Windchill: 14.0°F. Pressure: 30.27 in 1024.9 hPa (Rising).
14:40 <nsh22> couldnt you give somebody else a bye and replace that team with flex's?
14:40 <Concord> with the new teams, and the 128 players
14:40 <Concord> no way! :)
14:40 <nsh22> 128 players?
14:41 <nsh22> wd
14:41 <nsh22> :)
14:41 <Flex> give us tr/ct/x
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14:41 <nsh22> the bowl is looking more like a reality
14:41 <Flex> we'd love to play them first ;)
14:43 <Concord> Flex, its random, some one is not going to be happy, but it is fair
14:45 <pavelo> Flex: it would appear i can play tonight
14:45 <Flex> great
14:45 <Flex> we have 8 now
14:45 <Flex> join #kod
14:46 <nsh22> #NW
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14:50 <Lacrymosa> #kod
14:53 <nsh22> #later smoothice join ##wL
14:53 <nsh22> #help later
14:53 <@armabot> nsh22: Error: There is no command "later".
14:53 <nsh22> #help list
14:53 <Flex> try #m
14:53 <@armabot> nsh22: (list [--private] [<plugin>]) -- Lists the commands available in the given plugin. If no plugin is given, lists the public plugins available. If --private is given, lists the private plugins.
14:53 <nsh22> #m smoothice join ##wL
14:53 <@armabot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
14:53 <nsh22> ty flex :P
14:53 <Flex> np
15:03 <wrtlprnft> argh
15:03 <wrtlprnft> i hate gentoo sometimes
15:03 <wrtlprnft> who would want gimp without png support?
15:03 <joda_bot> wrtlprnft: :D
15:04 <joda_bot> wrtlprnft: gentoo teached me alot of linux stuff, but it's kind of tiresome to update :-)
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15:04 <wrtlprnft> do you think i'd be using gentoo if i didn't like it?
15:05 <wrtlprnft> it's just… use flags are great, but the defaults are just odd
15:06 <wrtlprnft> half of the games do build but fail miserably because sdl_image can't load png or jpg images, which just happens to be almost everything
15:06 <nsh22> gentoo doesnt support jpgs or pngs?
15:06 <nsh22> #help list private
15:06 <@armabot> nsh22: Error: There is no command "list private".
15:06 <pavelo> I'm pretty sure jpeg&png are on by default
15:07 <nsh22> #help list --private
15:07 <@armabot> nsh22: Error: There is no command "list private".
15:07 <wrtlprnft> well, they weren't for me
15:08 <pavelo> what profile are you using? server perhaps?
15:11 <wrtlprnft> default
15:11 <wrtlprnft> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 48 Jan 17 19:34 /etc/make.profile -> ../usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/x86/2008.0
15:12 <nsh22> if any1 wants me, just highlight :)
15:12  * nsh22 is away: 
15:14 <Concord> Flex, whats your server called atm?
15:14 <Flex> flex's server
15:15 <Flex> #flex
15:15 <Concord> I can't seem to find it on the list :P
15:15 <nsh22> how do i get chanserv to go to my channel?
15:15  * Concord is a noob
15:15 <nsh22> :P
15:15 <nsh22> acceptance is the first set to recovery XP
15:15 <nsh22> step*
15:15 <Flex> yes.. whatt's the point in a server if it likes to keep switching itself off
15:15 <Flex> how stupid
15:16 <pavelo> hmm... it seems they are off for the default profile
15:16 <Flex> try now Concord
15:16 <pavelo> maybe you should use the desktop profile
15:16 <Concord> success!
15:17 <Concord> with default settings ;)
15:17 <nsh22> Concord: did smooth give you the level you needed?
15:18 <Concord> yeah tanx :)
15:18 <nsh22> ok
15:18 <Concord> wups
15:26 <nsh22> #si fort
15:26 <@armabot> nsh22: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: Players (8/14): $_M0Ñ3Y, *_Centrurøide_§, ? ?Z?3?B?R?A? ?, FrEeToSk8bRd, hand, Key, LA PANTERA, urg
15:26 <nsh22> #si night fort
15:26 <@armabot> nsh22: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “night fort” at the moment, sorry.
15:27 <nsh22> #si night walkers centaral fortress
15:27 <@armabot> nsh22: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “night walkers centaral fortress” at the moment, sorry.
15:28 <nsh22> #roulette
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15:28  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
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15:28 <nsh22> ...
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15:46 <nsh22> SMOOTH!
15:46 <nsh22> hai
15:47 <smoothice> nsh22: hi
15:48  * nsh22 is back (gone 00:36:10)
15:48 <smoothice> k
15:50 <nsh22> #weather innisfil
15:50 <@armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Innisfil, Innisfil, Ontario is 16.0°F (9:50 AM EST on March 01, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: -2.2°F. Windchill: 15.8°F. Pressure: 30.27 in 1024.9 hPa (Steady).
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15:52 <smoothice> luke-jr: http://rafb.net/p/fLbDAf67.html
15:57 <nsh22> smoothice: how did you get your ath.cx website?
15:57 <smoothice> nsh22: dyndns.com
15:58 <smoothice> It's just a dyndns host
15:58 <nsh22> so just get a dns?
15:58 <smoothice> pointing to an IP
15:58 <smoothice> yeah
15:58 <nsh22> it points to you r ip i take it?
15:59 <smoothice> yep
15:59 <nsh22> ill be back for 130
15:59 <smoothice> k
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16:00 <smoothice> ct|kyle: successful zones v2 sty build :D
16:02 <smoothice> z-man: Do you know what would be the best way to make a zones v2 CTF map?
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16:26 <fonkay> cpayan: Hey, ltnt.
16:27 <smoothice> luke-jr: I cannot get a flag to show after a compile and run :(
16:29 <cpayan> hey fonkay
16:29 <cpayan> what's ltnt?
16:29 <cpayan> long time no... talk?
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16:39 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r867 Header file stuff and successful build
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16:43 <smoothice> Concord: my friend agreeed
16:43 <smoothice> Concord: you're admin and it's up
16:43 <Concord> I saw :)
16:43 <ct|kyle> smoothice: so what sty components are working
16:43 <Concord> the server feels good too ;)
16:43 <Concord> thanks
16:45 <smoothice> ct|kyle: flag other than the fact that I A. don't have a real zones v2 ctf map and B I made a test one and it aborted with error "abort trap"
16:46 <ct|kyle> did you add stuff to gparser to read in the zones v2 flag stuff
16:46 <smoothice> ct|kyle: I think I made the map wrong
16:46 <smoothice> well
16:46 <Concord> this room is more crowded than when I left ;)
16:47 <smoothice> I didn't add it into gParser but at the end of zFlag.cpp I added static zZoneExtRegistration regFlag("flag", "", zFlagZone::create);
16:58 <smoothice> ct|kyle: It just occurred to me I never compiled with --enable-zonesv2
16:58 <smoothice> ct|kyle: -.-
17:05 <smoothice> ct|kyle: would you mind giving it a quick compile? I don't know how to set configure flags directly in Xcode
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17:12 <smoothice> #seen maclover201
17:12 <@armabot> smoothice: maclover201 was last seen in #armagetron 1 week, 6 days, 21 hours, 10 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <maclover201> Well, externs are really extern static
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17:15 <smoothice> #seen dlh
17:15 <@armabot> smoothice: dlh was last seen in #armagetron 1 day, 11 hours, 7 minutes, and 56 seconds ago: <dlh> oh, RemoveFromGame()
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17:26 <Concord> smoothice: he is ingame currently
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17:31 <smoothice> Concord: dlh?
17:31 <smoothice> #ls dlh
17:32 <@armabot> smoothice: timed out
17:32 <smoothice> Concord: ????
17:32 <Concord> he plays as free kill
17:32 <Concord> ...
17:32 <smoothice> :O
17:32 <smoothice> that's DLH?
17:32 <smoothice> #ls free_kill
17:33 <@armabot> smoothice: free kill seems to be on Crazy Tronners Ladle Fortress 1 right now.
17:33 <pikey> #lastseen then00b
17:33 <Flex> #ls Vanhayes
17:33 <@armabot> pikey: timed out
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17:33 <@armabot> Flex: timed out
17:40 <smoothice> #ls free_kill
17:40 <@armabot> smoothice: free kill has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Ladle Fortress 1 3 minutes ago.
17:41 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r868 Beginning to add language and console output stuff
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17:44 <fonkay> cpayan: yes
17:44 <cpayan> coo
17:44 <fonkay> i know :P
17:44 <fonkay> idn't it?
17:58 <joda_bot> fonkay: cpayan: Strange conversation ? :D
18:05 <cpayan> yep conversations can be a bit weird when neither person's there at the same time joda_bot
18:05 <cpayan> IRC tag fonkay's it!
18:05 <joda_bot> cpayan: what did you refer to then ? some armabot tell me later message ?
18:06 <joda_bot> or did you talk about that yesterday ? :D
18:06 <cpayan> ah yea
18:07 <cpayan> she told me ltnt
18:07 <cpayan> which, devoid of consonants, was a bit confusing, joda_bot
18:13 <ct|kyle> smoothice: still need me?
18:14 <smoothice> ct|kyle: nah I just cannot get a trunk  client to work well and luke-jr 's stuff isn't working which my stuff depends on
18:14 <ct|kyle> ah
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18:19 <Concord> hoi Ashitaka
18:24 <epsy> wrtlprnft, are there probems with marvin? it's taking a lot of time to connect on ssh
18:24 <epsy> wrtlprnft, and did you try it with anything else than instagib?
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18:30 <Corn1> #time
18:30 <@armabot> Corn1: 06:30 PM, March 01, 2009
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18:34 <epsy> z-man, what settings do you use for ladle?
18:34 <z-man> The one by durka, plus shuffling for everyone.
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18:42 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r869 Another language add
18:42 <epsy> @aawikis ndescriptors
18:42 <teabot> epsy: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=List_of_nDescriptors - List of nDescriptors - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
18:43 <epsy> what is descriptor 12 ?
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18:47 <z-man> version override.
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18:48 <z-man> Sent as first mesage in a ping packet, for example, to tell the receiver the version of the sender.
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18:52 <Concord> #armagetron.tourneys
18:53 <joda_bot> Concord: ?
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19:00  * nsh22 is here!
19:00 <Concord> ct|kyle is ct ladle 1 available if we need it
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19:02 <Concord> P4 is ct ladle 1 available if we need it?
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19:08 <epsy> #time
19:08 <@armabot> epsy: 07:08 PM, March 01, 2009
19:09 <epsy> #gmtime
19:09 <epsy> gah
19:09 <epsy> #apropos time
19:09 <@armabot> epsy: ctime and time
19:13 <freak0o> flex: I'm at the server,,, promote whenever u like,, I'm afk for about 20 minutes though
19:14 <Flex> ok, i'll do it soon
19:14 <freak0o> To all:   If a ladle server crashes etc...
19:14 <freak0o> I set a server called  :  LADLE SERVER (BACKUP) online
19:14 <freak0o> just ask for admin if its needed
19:16 <Concord> ok
19:16 <Concord> thats nice freak
19:16 <pikey> #ls then00b
19:17 <@armabot> pikey: timed out
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19:20 <Concord> G5, should we use freakos, smooth's is lagging weirdly
19:22 <Concord> G5, sunny, can we use Z-Man's Ladle Backup
19:22 <epsy> now, please avoid using bots to list players on public channels, this applies to both #armagetron and #armagetron.tourneys
19:22 <epsy> (Ladle)
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19:23 <pruWord> hi all
19:24 <pruWord> just here to tell you we can play :P
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19:24 <Concord> G5?
19:25 <G5> Sure. I would prefer it
19:25 <Concord> ok
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19:25 <Concord> z-man could i please get team leader status on z-mans ladle back up
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19:27 <Concord> z-man could i please get team leader status on z-mans ladle back up
19:27 <z-man> your ID being?
19:27 <Concord> Concord@ct
19:27 <Concord> thanks
19:28 <nsh22> anybody from vcl in here>?
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19:29 <sunny> concord?
19:29 <Concord> yeah?
19:29 <sunny> new server?
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19:29 <Concord> we're both there
19:29 <sunny> yea :p
19:29 <sunny> the others told it me
19:29 <sunny> ^^
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19:37 <nsh22> hey all
19:38 <sinewav> hi
19:38 <epsy> Please avoid using bots on public channels to list players (Ladle). This applies to both #armagetron and #armagetron.tourneys . Use /query teabot or /query armabot instead.
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19:44 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r875 One file moved and one deleted....
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19:46 <Flex> is Ladle 18 settings same as the 19th settings?
19:47 <freak0o> flex can u unban me?
19:47 <Flex> urm k
19:47 <freak0o> wrong command got me kicked
19:47 <Flex> lol
19:47 <Flex> what command?
19:47 <freak0o> :)
19:47 <freak0o> kick -_-
19:47 <freak0o> wrong user number
19:47 <Flex> user/ip
19:48 <Flex> try now
19:48 <freak0o> freako /
19:48 <freak0o> still banned
19:49 <Flex> try now?
19:49 <freak0o> yup, ty
19:49 <epsy> he wanted to give himself 100 points
19:49 <dlh> Ladle subculture running: generalconsumption.org, port 4533
19:50 <epsy> but typed kick freak0o -100
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19:56 <freak0o> nice 2 vs 8
19:56 <epsy> good luck
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19:57 <freak0o> we torped the first 4 rounds lol
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20:05 <nsh22> nw lost
20:05 <nsh22> wl*
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20:06 <freak0o> dev null also lost
20:07 <nsh22> is this the very last ladle?
20:07 <freak0o> arrow vs Dev/Null  2-0
20:07 <nsh22> oh yeah, wL vs Twisted Rats
20:07 <nsh22> TR 2-0 wL
20:07 <smoothice> nsh22: #armagetron-tourneys
20:09 <freak0o> lol
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20:09 <freak0o> Dev/Null is annoyed lol
20:09 <nsh22> lol
20:10 <freak0o> they find it annoying that we hole when its 8 vs 2
20:10 <freak0o> we just want to win fast. so that we could train -_-
20:10 <nsh22> who has the 2?
20:10 <freak0o> dev null...
20:10 <nsh22> if it was 8 holing against 2 thats just plain bad ettiet
20:11 <freak0o> its bad ettiquete to show up with 2...
20:11 <nsh22> meh
20:13 <luke-jr> lulz
20:13 <nsh22> any1 up for ladle yandere?
20:14 <luke-jr> z-man: don't we already have optional stuff that requires hw accel? O.o
20:14 <nsh22> ]yandere
20:14 <ljrbot> A yandere game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "]yandere" to join.
20:14  * nsh22 is addicted
20:14 <luke-jr> smoothice: my stuff works fine :p
20:14 <freak0o> yandere?
20:15 <freak0o> whats that ?
20:15 <nsh22> type ]yandere
20:15 <nsh22> a game
20:15 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
20:15 <nsh22> ]yandere extend
20:15 <ljrbot> Added another waiting extension.
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20:16 <nsh22> freako, play
20:16 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
20:16 <nsh22> ]yandere extend
20:16 <ljrbot> Added another waiting extension.
20:16 <luke-jr> nsh22: ladle yandere? O.o
20:16 <luke-jr> ]yandere end
20:16 <ljrbot> The yandere game game has been forced to end.
20:16 <luke-jr> ]yandere start theme=twg
20:16 <nsh22> even better
20:17 <ljrbot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "]yandere" to join.
20:17 <freak0o> flex: ? u got ur team rdy?
20:17 <nsh22> ]yandere
20:17 <Flex> yes, we're at my server.. but we agree all to move to z-mans?
20:17 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
20:17 <nsh22> ]yandere extend
20:17 <ljrbot> Added another waiting extension.
20:18 <luke-jr> nsh22: maybe I should send it to the Ladle server :D
20:18 <nsh22> o0
20:18 <nsh22> which one?
20:18 <freak0o> I agree
20:18 <nsh22> luke-jr: which server is it?
20:18 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
20:18 <freak0o> is it empty?
20:18 <nsh22> i wanna see this in action on tron
20:18 <nsh22> ]yandere extend
20:18 <ljrbot> Added another waiting extension.
20:19 <luke-jr> nsh22: no idea
20:19 <nsh22> oh...
20:19 <nsh22> is there a "ladle lounge" server?
20:19 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
20:19 <nsh22> and can you send the gamne to specific servers?
20:20 <luke-jr> nsh22: yeah
20:20 <luke-jr> ]yandere extend
20:20 <ljrbot> Added another waiting extension.
20:20 <z-man> luke-jr: yes, there's the headlights. But they're quite isolated and even need to be compiled in optionally. Quite a different caliber :)
20:20 <luke-jr> z-man: I thought we had bouncing 1s and 0s
20:20 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
20:20 <Flex> no it's not free freak0o
20:20 <nsh22> why dont ou play luke?
20:20 <Flex> so just come to my server
20:21 <freak0o> we play at urs?
20:21 <Flex> yes
20:21 <Flex> come
20:21 <freak0o> it times-out like crazy there
20:21 <Flex> well, we can't do much
20:21 <Flex> unless there's a server we can use
20:21 <freak0o> maybe we can use mine
20:21 <ljrbot> There aren't enough players to start the Worm Game. Try again later.
20:21 <nsh22> smooths?
20:21 <Flex> and that's absed?
20:21 <Flex> based
20:22 <freak0o> based?
20:22 <Flex> in which country
20:22 <Flex> urm i think CT Ladle 2 is empty
20:22 <freak0o> london host by luke-jr
20:22 <Flex> same host as mine freako..
20:22 <freak0o> i dont want to play at CT2... it kicked 4 of my people last ladle
20:22 <freak0o> then urs...
20:22 <Flex> Any CT Ladle 2 admin here?
20:23 <smoothice> ct|kyle is
20:23 <freak0o> lol we refuse to play at CT2 :)
20:23 <Flex> why?
20:23 <Flex> why did it kick?
20:23 <freak0o> freak0o i dont want to play at CT2... it kicked 4 of my people last ladle  /// It auto kicks olive
20:24 <Flex> fine
20:24 <Flex> just come to mine then
20:24 <luke-jr> >_<
20:24 <freak0o> netobject errors for him every 2 rounds
20:24 <luke-jr> nsh22: Yandere played in #anime right now fyi
20:25 <nsh22> ty luke
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20:25 <hoop2> .
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20:26 <Concord> feak0o did your opponent show up?
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20:26 <luke-jr> hoop fails
20:26 <freak0o> only 2 people
20:27 <Concord> ok
20:27 <Concord> did you play or forfeit?
20:27 <freak0o> we did play
20:27 <freak0o> but holed every round.....
20:27 <Concord> ok
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20:35 <Concord> I need admin in ct ladle 2
20:36 <Concord> ct|kyle
20:37 <ct|kyle> Concord: lalde 1 you mean?
20:37 <Concord> where ID and PRu are
20:37 <Concord> yeah
20:38 <ct|kyle> Concord: that all
20:38 <Concord> thy
20:38 <Concord> yes
20:38 <ct|kyle> ok
20:39 <ct|kyle> I'll try to remember to add you to the list
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20:42 <Concord> mayhem
20:42 <Concord> ID v pru
20:42 <Concord> pru thought it was best of 1
20:42 <Concord> and left
20:42 <Concord> ID then though oh we lot
20:42 <Concord> *lost
20:42 <Concord> and left
20:43 <nsh22> lol
20:43 <ct|kyle> I'm not sure what is wrong with ladle 1
20:44 <ct|kyle> 2*
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20:57 <nsh22> wow, is laggingh my comp, just like the alphas
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20:58 <ct|kyle> nsh22: lag is a myth it is only in your mind
20:58 <nsh22> when my music suddenly plays slower?
20:58 <cpayan> heh ct|kyle
20:59 <nsh22> my music honestly slows down when i bring the client up
20:59 <cpayan> maybe it's the remix :)
20:59 <cpayan> sorry, i can't help
20:59 <nsh22> no
21:00 <Concord> idk
21:01 <nsh22> ...
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21:04 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9089 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. MacOS/Armagetron Advanced.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj): Daniel Lee Harple: One file moved and one deleted.
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21:08 <Concord> epsy any luck?
21:12 <Flex> kod 2 - 0 arrow
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21:13 <freako> KOD vs ARROW  2 - 0
21:13 <Flex> freako
21:13 <Flex> talk to Lucifer
21:13 <Flex> oops
21:13 <Flex> luke-jr
21:14 <freako> damned... that we fucked that last roiund :P
21:14 <freako> 5 vs 1,,, 96 - 88 in front xD
21:14 <freako> and we suicided and lost -_-
21:15 <freako> :P
21:16 <Lizmatic> gg arrow
21:16 <akira_arma> man we didnt you hole freako?
21:16 <akira_arma> why*
21:16 <akira_arma> you had one time 3:1
21:16 <akira_arma> and the other 5:1
21:16 <freako> my team is only sumo players
21:16 <akira_arma> lol
21:16 <Lizmatic> then why make a clan with only sumo players
21:16 <freako> because were advancing
21:16  * Lizmatic scratches her head
21:16 <freako> nest ladle u see :)
21:16 <freako> next*
21:16 <Lizmatic> ok :P
21:17 <akira_arma> well when we warmed uo you were pretty done for :)
21:17 <freako> last ladle we made it to 100= 40   100- 30 or so
21:17 <akira_arma> up*
21:17 <Flex> freako, we played really bad
21:17 <freako> we also :/
21:17 <Flex> i'd say my expected team performance was second round
21:17 <freako> our great attacker wasnt there :/
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21:18 <freako> but u just were far better + more xperience ofcourse :)
21:18 <akira_arma> who won ct vs tr?
21:20 <Flex> CT
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21:20 <epsy> Concord, still waiting
21:21 <epsy> they are at 1-1 somewhere after 42-42
21:21 <Concord> its 80-60 in 3rd match
21:21 <Concord> epsy: slowest matches ever
21:21 <sinewav> keep the play-by-play coming
21:21 <Concord> they both suck
21:21 <Concord> 82-66
21:22 <Concord> 84-68
21:22 <Concord> 86
21:22 <Concord> 88
21:22 <Concord> id defending 1v1
21:22 <Concord> 96-68
21:23 <epsy> for who?
21:23 <nsh22> the ladle settings arent working on my server (dpont worry its not for ladle, just for me)
21:23 <Concord> 96-68 id
21:23 <Concord> 98
21:24 <Concord> 100
21:24 <Concord> id wins 2-1
21:24 <akira_arma> vs?
21:24 <akira_arma> concord
21:24 <akira_arma> id vs ?
21:24 <epsy> pru
21:24 <Concord> pru
21:24 <akira_arma> ah
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21:29 <JJBean> what's the channel for watching the ladle?
21:30 <epsy> see topic
21:30 <nsh22> #armagetron.tournys
21:31 <arrow> #si cheers
21:31 <@armabot> arrow: [] Cheers! [] The friendly server.: Players (2/12): CDagrip, Player 1
21:32 <noob13> !cheers
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21:41 <@armabot> lpbugs: [336367] Code doesn't compile with RESPAWN_HACK enabled on trunk <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/336367>
21:41 <nsh22> luke-jr: ummm when i try to play inly one map on my server, it goes to some anonamous map (ima ssuming it the default) and doesnt leave it. it says it chages that map but it doesnt...
21:43 <nsh22> any suggestions?
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21:46 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r870 merge from mainline
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21:48 <Lizmatic> koD 96-86 CT
21:48 <Lizmatic> ..
21:48 <Lizmatic> no, the other way around
21:50 <Concord> ty
21:50 <dlh> kod 0 - 1 ct
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21:57 <Corn1> hey x ladle fort is full so unless you got a new admin i cant get in
21:59  * nsh22 fixed the problem
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22:01 <Lizmatic> KoD 1-1 CT
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22:18 <nsh22> luke-jr: on your servers, for the map rotator, does that have a multi mode function in which you can choose which map and settings you want?
22:19 <Lizmatic> KoD beat CT!
22:19 <Vanhayes> grats
22:19 <nsh22> wd to kod
22:20 <Vanhayes> who else is in the finals?
22:20 <Lizmatic> no idea
22:20 <Lizmatic> x?
22:20 <MaZuffeR> x or plus
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22:21 <nsh22> yo
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22:35 <nsh22> #m smoothice: what do you think about a multimode server instead of my ctfs server
22:35 <@armabot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
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22:43 <@armabot> lpbugs: [336397] trunk segfaults when timing out from a server <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/336397>
22:47 <BabyBug> FIX! :@
22:54 <Flex> #fuck you
22:54 <Flex> #armabot sucks
22:54 <Vanhayes> #eliza Go fuck yourself
22:54 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Are you afraid of sex?
22:54 <Flex> #eliza Go fuck yourself
22:55 <Vanhayes> #eliza you caught me
22:55 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Why do you say i caught you?
22:55 <Vanhayes> #eliza talk to Flex
22:55 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Why do you say talk to flex?
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23:53 <Concord> congrats
23:53 <akira_arma> concord: who was center ?
23:53 <epsy> Plus used hacks ;)
23:53 <Concord> um
23:54 <Concord> theodore roosevelt
23:54 <akira_arma> 3750 = ?
23:54 <epsy> who was redwood?
23:54 <akira_arma> whats with that silly secrecy
23:54 <Concord> adlai stevenson
23:54 <akira_arma> --
23:55 <Flex> Concord
23:56 <Flex> i don't like the fact that one of your members seems to keep harrasing someone
23:56 <Flex> and to do it in the ladle again
23:56 <Your_mom_arma> mind games is boring lets play hungry hungry hippos
23:56 <Flex> did you see that Concord?
23:56 <epsy> Flex, ms_nus ?
23:57 <Concord> its not "my player"
23:57 <epsy> at least reveal who it is so we can deal with him directly
23:58 <Lizmatic> Concord isn't plus mainly your team?
23:58 <Flex> yes.. it's totally not acceptable.. i didn't see as there was too much spam and stuff
23:58 <Concord> its not my team
23:58 <Lizmatic> ok, anyway
23:58 <Flex> who's team is it?
23:58 <guru3> this arcade machien and the train thing... that sort of stuff should go on the site
23:58 <Lizmatic> next time theyre going to get kicked.
23:58 <Flex> are you not in the team? it counts as being in your team
23:59 <epsy> well, you started the wiki page Concord

Log from 2009-03-02:
--- Day changed Mon Mar 02 2009
00:00 <Lizmatic> So who's team is it? o_O
00:01 <epsy> I take it as it is owned by everyone who's part of it
00:01 <Flex> not really concerned with who created it..
00:01 <epsy> so that includes Concord ..
00:02 <Lizmatic> Yeah, yet nobody wants to take responsibility
00:02 <Flex> one of them is I Am/teen
00:02 <Flex> that's obvious
00:02 <Concord> God gave man free will
00:02 <epsy> I guess so
00:02 <Lizmatic> okay, I'll start insulting back next time
00:02 <epsy> forgot about I am
00:02 <Flex> no Lizmatic
00:02 <Lizmatic> And I'm the insulting queen so you won't win.
00:02 <epsy> and he was indeed holy fucking annoying
00:05 <Concord> I had a fun time
00:06 <Concord> and if you were unable to, turn of the computer and go play croquet
00:06 <epsy> I silenced him
00:06 <epsy> it took me two rounds and two deaths
00:07 <Flex> who?
00:07 <Your_mom_arma> drama drama drama
00:07 <epsy> ms_nus
00:07 <epsy> the guy who was center and froze
00:08 <epsy> so I'd like to know who what that guy
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00:13 <guru3> who are the people that actually do work?
00:13 <epsy> like, workers?
00:13 <guru3> active developers
00:13 <guru3> like you
00:13 <guru3> wrtl
00:14 <epsy> ah, on arma
00:14 <epsy> z-man is pretty active
00:14 <epsy> dlh too
00:14 <guru3> people not admin
00:14 <epsy> I haven't pushed much revisions for my part
00:14 <epsy> why?
00:15 <guru3> drum roll please
00:15 <epsy> * mately
00:15 <epsy> grm, *lately
00:15 <epsy> *drum roll*
00:15 <guru3> i'm updating the website
00:15 <epsy> *tada*
00:15 <epsy> :>
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00:16 <guru3> yeah, shock moment i know
00:16 <Concord> what would you have me do?
00:17 <Lizmatic> Epsy, they still aren't saying who are they are?
00:17 <nsh22> hey who won?
00:17 <Lizmatic> I WON
00:17 <Lizmatic> err
00:17 <Lizmatic> I mean KoD
00:17 <nsh22> lol
00:17 <epsy> lol liz
00:17 <nsh22> grazt to Kod
00:17 <epsy> nsh22, did server run fine?
00:17 <nsh22> which one?
00:17 <epsy> we had a messed up config when we entered
00:17 <epsy> xfort
00:17 <nsh22> oh yeah it was fine
00:17 <epsy> but it's the second time it happens
00:18 <epsy> so I don't blame you
00:18 <nsh22> check the logs and see who messed it up
00:18 <guru3> epsy: is kyle an official developer?
00:18 <epsy> guru3, no
00:18 <nsh22> hes a hack maker (i guess)
00:18 <epsy> guru3, https://launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/+members
00:18 <guru3> i was wondering if there was something like that
00:18 <nsh22> whoos yarrt?
00:19  * epsy wonders
00:19 <nsh22> lol luke isnt approved
00:19 <nsh22> tank, approve him lol
00:19 <epsy> he's not a dev anymore
00:19 <nsh22> no?
00:19 <epsy> if you want more info, dig the forums
00:19 <nsh22> since when?
00:20 <epsy> do I need to repeat ? :)
00:20 <nsh22> recent or old?
00:20 <epsy> mid
00:20 <nsh22> ...
00:20 <epsy> one year ago or so
00:20 <nsh22> oh
00:21 <nsh22> is there a blatent topic or do i actually have to searcg
00:21 <epsy> duuuh
00:21 <nsh22> duh what?
00:21 <nsh22> which one
00:23 <guru3> "smohly"
00:23 <guru3> that typo has been on the site at least 3 years
00:23 <epsy> what was it meant to be?
00:23 <guru3> smoothely :<
00:23 <epsy> haha
00:23  * epsy can't keep himself from laughing :>
00:24 <guru3> i can't either almost
00:24 <guru3> but it's either laugh or cry
00:24 <guru3> so i'll laugh
00:24 <nsh22> any1 care to explain what a troll is to me (i have a generic idea)
00:24 <epsy> @wp troll
00:24 <guru3> large mythical creature with club
00:24 <epsy> #wiki troll
00:25 <epsy> @g site:en.wikipedia.org troll
00:25 <teabot> epsy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll - Troll (Internet) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
00:25 <nsh22> ty
00:25 <epsy> gfty would have been useful here
00:26 <nsh22> oh i know
00:26 <nsh22> but thx anyway
00:26 <nsh22> now i know what lucifer is!
00:27 <epsy> lol, that sounded like a 7 year old child ^^
00:27 <epsy> (no offense)
00:27 <nsh22> meh
00:27 <nsh22> im reading about how lucifer is a self described troll
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00:34 <@armabot> armagetronad: guru3 * r9090 /www/mainsite/ (about.php archive.php contacts.php downloads.php index.php): site updates
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00:35 <guru3> sinewav: congratulations! you've made the news!
00:35 <sinewav> Say what?
00:35 <nsh22> ???
00:35 <guru3> sinewav: congratulations! you've made the news!
00:35 <sinewav> haha
00:35 <sinewav> what do you mean?
00:35 <nsh22> why is sine in the news?
00:35 <guru3> sinewav made an awesome moviepack
00:35 <nsh22> the wild west one?
00:36 <guru3> no
00:36 <guru3> the train one!
00:36 <nsh22> the wild west one....
00:36 <sinewav> oh yeah, that's some crazy work you guys are doing. :)
00:36 <guru3> that's probably the coolest thing i've ever seen
00:36 <guru3> well
00:36 <guru3> ok, not _the_ coolest
00:36 <guru3> but i really like it
00:36 <guru3> so it made the news
00:36 <guru3> the type of thing which i shall try and do more of
00:36 <sinewav> thanks, it's like a whole different game
00:37 <guru3> dlh's video really shows it off
00:37 <epsy> about > Developement is still slightly outdated
00:37 <sinewav> yeah, it looks totaly wild with the texture following to cycle
00:37 <epsy> what you can include:
00:37 <epsy>  * authentication
00:38 <guru3> that's already in
00:38 <guru3> (i think)
00:38 <guru3> protobuf would be a bit complex to explain
00:38 <epsy> yeah, but that still belongs to developement since .2.8.3 is beta
00:38 <nsh22> dlh made a vid?
00:38 <guru3> yeah
00:38 <nsh22> where is it?
00:38 <epsy> just say protocol reformat
00:38 <guru3> check the news!
00:38 <epsy> also cockpits, autocompletition, new font engine
00:39 <guru3> i'll save that for next week
00:39 <guru3> and make it look like we're getting stuff done super fast
00:39 <epsy> come on, it's one paragraph :<
00:39 <dlh> Jonathan made the video, actually
00:39 <guru3> shit
00:39 <Your_mom_arma> guru3: brilliant
00:39 <guru3> *phew* wrote the write thing in the news
00:39 <guru3> *right
00:40 <guru3> don't know why i keep thinking dlh
00:40 <epsy> guru3, https://launchpad.net/armagetronad
00:40 <sinewav> "sinewav came up with the rather brilliant idea" ;)
00:40 <epsy> guru3, there's also this (Top contriutors)
00:40 <guru3> it's on the contacts apge :)
00:41 <epsy> but I'm not sure if it really reflects activity
00:41 <guru3> no it's not
00:41 <guru3> it's on the about page
00:41 <epsy> ie. zman is more active than me currently
00:41 <guru3> ah, now i know why i kept thinkign dlh
00:41 <guru3> dlh, you've been registered as an evil minion
00:41 <dlh> \o/
00:42 <nsh22> o0
00:42 <epsy> heh, i've got 3 karma points outside arma
00:42 <epsy> oh wait
00:42 <epsy> 103, heh
00:42 <sinewav> yay
00:42 <nsh22> fack
00:43 <nsh22> the movie wont play in windows media player :(
00:43 <epsy> try vlc instead
00:43 <epsy> if you're using windows
00:43 <guru3> need to gunzip it
00:43 <epsy> because WMP is kinda not a good movie player ;)
00:43 <sinewav> vlc ftw dude
00:43 <dlh> perhaps there should be a page on the main site about how to contribute. Maybe point to the wiki. Also describe how to report bugs
00:44 <nsh22> guru3: ... im dumb, but not that bad...
00:44 <nsh22> :P
00:44 <nsh22> or maybe i am
00:44 <guru3> epsy: authetnication and protobuf
00:44 <guru3> cockpits
00:44 <guru3> what else?
00:44 <epsy> FONTS
00:44 <guru3> ah yes
00:45 <cpayan> fonts?
00:45 <guru3> true type
00:45 <epsy> bitmap fonts -> true type
00:45 <cpayan> what about them, I just got here
00:45 <epsy> that's a hell of a change
00:45 <cpayan> ah, in the game?
00:45 <epsy> you see the 0.2.8 font?
00:45 <epsy> yes
00:45 <epsy> looks all crap
00:45 <epsy> it's arranged on trunk
00:46 <epsy> and can now handle truetype fonts
00:46 <nsh22> is this the right url
00:46 <nsh22> http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
00:46 <cpayan> that's interesting
00:46 <epsy> yes
00:46 <cpayan> yea it is nsh22
00:46 <cpayan> Which fonts do you plan on using?
00:47 <epsy> it has it's own
00:47 <cpayan> ah, ok
00:47 <epsy> for my part I use neuropol which you can find on dafont
00:47 <nsh22> meh i cant be bothered
00:47 <cpayan> that one's pretty sweet
00:47 <epsy> nsh22, it has all the codecs included
00:47 <cpayan> very cyberpunk
00:47 <epsy> nsh22, you won't have to bother anymore :)
00:48 <epsy> hehe
00:48 <cpayan> nsh22, get vlc, it pretty much runs every single piece of media you have
00:48 <epsy> but mplayer still does better :>
00:48 <cpayan> nah
00:48 <cpayan> I like vlc better
00:48 <epsy> mplayer is _the_ unbeatable :d
00:48 <nsh22> mplayer
00:48 <nsh22> ?
00:48 <epsy> nsh22, it would be difficult to use on windows
00:48 <cpayan> the Neuropol "z" character might be a bit weird, don't you think?
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00:49 <cpayan> mplayer doesn't have a windows port, does it?
00:49 <guru3> it does
00:49 <guru3> but it's hard to use
00:49 <epsy> I don't recall having problems with it
00:49 <guru3> for normal people
00:49 <@armabot> armagetronad: guru3 * r9091 /www/mainsite/ (about.php contacts.php): more development information. hope this doesn't get out of date too fast
00:49 <epsy> only problem is that unlike the default font it is of free width
00:49 <guru3> epsy, i've spewed now
00:49 <epsy> seen that
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00:49 <epsy> :P
00:50 <cpayan> is that a problem?
00:50 <guru3> can't think of anything else to add
00:50 <nsh22> any1 care to explain v1 and v2 to me?
00:50 <guru3> shapes
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00:50 <guru3> (if you're referring to zones)
00:50 <epsy> The (hopefully) final stable 0.2.8.x release is now in beta testing.
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00:50 <nsh22> yes i am
00:50 <epsy> shouldn't that be ?
00:51 <nsh22> i want to do a wiki on it (unless there is one already
00:51 <guru3> i would have written that, ahd we not said was going to be the final 0.2.8.x series release
00:51 <guru3> but we feature creeped to
00:52 <cpayan> i remember that!
00:52 <nsh22> THATS FUCKING EPIC!!!!
00:52 <cpayan> ... just sayin
00:52 <epsy> nsh22, what's so epic?
00:52 <nsh22> TRAINS!
00:52 <cpayan> either my memory, or VLC
00:52 <epsy> ah yeah, the epic trains :>
00:53 <nsh22> now if that was in arma3d...
00:53 <epsy> flying epic trains lmao
00:53 <nsh22> and if there was a working windows build....
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00:53 <nsh22> and if i had a million dollars....if i had a million dollars
00:53 <epsy> flying epic trains on windows
00:53 <epsy> er
00:54  * nsh22 sings the song by bnr
00:54 <guru3> well, let's hope something cool happens next week
00:54 <guru3> so that i can post news again
00:54 <nsh22> i go to france in april, you can put that in the news lol
00:55 <nsh22> better hide epsy
00:55 <guru3> April 2nd, 2009
00:55 <nsh22> no, 4th
00:55 <guru3> nsh22 goes to France, thank god. Silence at last! ;)
00:55 <nsh22> its only a 9 day trip :P sry
00:55 <guru3> ><
00:55 <nsh22> ill find internet to bug you with
00:56 <nsh22> :D
00:56 <nsh22> and ill /away just for epsy
00:56 <epsy> I don't mind using away, that's fine
00:56 <epsy> and good, even
00:56 <epsy> just, no useless messages nobody cares about
00:57 <epsy> guru3, .2.8.3 on april 1st ;)
00:57 <nsh22> oh ill add one of those too
00:57 <guru3> lol
00:57 <nsh22> april 2nd is release?
00:57 <guru3> epsy: dev forum
00:57 <epsy> you still didn't add me
00:57 <epsy> lol :<
00:57 <guru3> crud
00:58 <guru3> done
00:58 <nsh22> i really want to learn a programming language (othe han java)
00:59 <guru3> i started with basic
00:59 <guru3> then did java
00:59 <guru3> then cpp
00:59 <guru3> then c
00:59 <guru3> and php in there somewhere
00:59 <guru3> then eventually understood oop
00:59 <guru3> somehow magically learned databases too
00:59 <guru3> rather quite odd how all of a sudden you know how to do them
00:59 <nsh22> o0
01:00 <nsh22> ...
01:00 <epsy> guru3, thanks, pretty much one year after actually entering the team hehe
01:00 <guru3> sorry :(
01:00 <guru3> evil minion #2
01:00 <nsh22> im starting with java (in school) and learning c++ on my own (thx to epsy, although i havent done anything with the tut for a good month now)
01:00 <epsy> hehe
01:00 <epsy> cplusplus.com ?
01:00 <guru3> dlh is #1 an #3 is wrtlprnft
01:00 <nsh22> where am i
01:01 <guru3> going in alphabetical order
01:01 <nsh22> epsy; yeah
01:01 <guru3> nsh22, you're not an evil minion
01:01 <nsh22> aw ok
01:01 <epsy> guru3, ah, poor wrtl
01:02 <guru3> could change is name to artlprnft
01:02 <guru3> no one'd be any the wiser
01:03 <epsy> but
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01:03 <epsy> but
01:03 <epsy> that's a vowel
01:03 <cpayan> brtlprnft
01:03 <epsy> :>
01:03 <cpayan> am i the only one that pronounces it wer-til-per-nift
01:04 <nsh22> no
01:04 <cpayan> phew
01:04 <epsy> I usually just spell it
01:04 <nsh22> i do it too
01:04 <guru3> i do too
01:04 <nsh22> wertlpernft
01:04 <cpayan> well i hear it in my head when i read it
01:04 <guru3> pretty amazing that i even memorized it
01:04 <epsy> now who does what?
01:04 <nsh22> syou spell the enitre thing?
01:05 <epsy> yes
01:05 <nsh22> hmm
01:05 <epsy> or only the first four letters when lazy
01:05 <nsh22> wrtlprnft: how do you say your name, wertlepernft or spell it out?
01:06 <epsy> he just says mathias :P
01:06 <cpayan> lame
01:06 <cpayan> it's not spelled that way at all :)
01:07 <nsh22> wtf is a triumvriate
01:07 <cpayan> a leadership of three people
01:07 <cpayan> or entities
01:07 <guru3> it's the armagetron system of government
01:08 <nsh22> who are the three?
01:08 <cpayan> like Marc Antony, Octavian Caesar, and Lepidus
01:08 <guru3> it says on the contact page
01:08 <epsy> it's one of the few things that are actually well-documented on the wiki :)
01:08 <cpayan> surprise surprise! :)
01:08 <epsy> @aawikis organisation
01:08 <teabot> epsy: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Ladle-12/Results - Ladle-12/Results - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
01:08 <epsy> haha
01:08 <nsh22> ah
01:08 <epsy> @aawikis project organisation
01:08 <epsy> @aawikis project structure
01:08 <teabot> epsy: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Government - Government - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
01:08 <teabot> epsy: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Development_Docs - Development Docs - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
01:08 <cpayan> I need to get into that wiki with that fellow that posted last on the Armagetron Revitalization thread
01:08 <epsy> forelast one
01:10 <cpayan> is there any timeline on when might be released?
01:10 <guru3> less than a month
01:10 <epsy> possibly when the invuln bug gets fixed
01:10 <cpayan> Ah, maybe maybe not, then
01:10 <epsy> @bugs invulnerable
01:10 <teabot> epsy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+bug/246159 - Bug #246159 in Armagetron Advanced: “Server browser rendering ...
01:10 <epsy> er
01:11 <epsy> @bugs cycles turning invulnerable
01:11 <teabot> epsy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+bug/246159 - Bug #246159 in Armagetron Advanced: “Server browser rendering ...
01:11 <epsy> it insists
01:11 <cpayan> I was thinking that giving the arma community a facelift could be a good idea, and then pimping out the new release to a few rags around the internet. Get the word out more than it is right now.
01:11 <epsy> it's bug 322066
01:11 <teabot> Launchpad bug 322066 in armagetronad/0.2.8 "Cycles turning invulnerable" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/322066
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01:12 <epsy> BabyBug, would you consider being part of armagetron-squat?
01:13 <Lizmatic> she's asleep
01:13 <epsy> can't be :)
01:14 <@armabot> armagetronad: guru3 * r9092 /www/mainsite/armagetronad.css: facelift in the form of arial... alayws wondered why it was times new roman :/
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01:14 <epsy> well, nighty
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01:14 <sinewav> bb
01:15 <guru3> off to bed
01:15 <guru3> good night
01:17 <sinewav> bb
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01:33 <nsh22> iight time for bed
01:33 <nsh22> or ooff of comp anyways
01:33 <nsh22> #night
01:33 <@armabot> Good night nsh22!
01:34 <nsh22> ttytm
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02:37 <Lucifer> GodTodd: ping
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02:42 <GodTodd> Lucifer, pong
02:42 <Lucifer> hmmm, why isn't konversation opening a new tab for me?  :(
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04:31 <luke-jr> Lucifer: where's my game save?
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05:59 <luke-jr> guru3_: I've done some major work on Zones v2
05:59 <luke-jr> but I guess that's part of Zones v2 now :p
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11:59 <akira_arma> http://www.i-cams.org/
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12:13 <@armabot> lpbugs: [336621] Unidentified server crashes <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/336621>
12:15 <z-manuel> Turns out I CAN play the invulnerability bug server recording on my computer at home.
12:15 <z-manuel> In optimized mode :/
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12:51 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9093 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. NEWS): Manuel Moos: Forgot to update NEWS.
12:59 <z-man> Aaaaand fixed.
13:00 <MaZuffeR> \o/
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13:07 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9094 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/tron/gCycle.cpp src/tron/gCycleMovement.cpp):
13:07 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
13:07 <@armabot> armagetronad: Reduced kill timeout in case cycle simulation gets stuck.
13:07 <@armabot> armagetronad: Fixed cycles getting stuck because of tsTodo floating point rounding.
13:13 <@armabot> armacommits: [bugfarm-scripts] r18 Added safety net for crashes.... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1081 Reduced kill timeout in case cycle simulation gets stuck....
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14:40 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r9095 /armagetronad/trunk/ (9 files in 6 dirs): (log message trimmed)
14:40 <@armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 9063 to 9094:
14:40 <@armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
14:40 <@armabot> armagetronad:  r9094 | bazaarmagetron | 2009-03-02 13:06:57 +0100 (Mon, 02 Mar 2009) | 4 lines
14:40 <@armabot> armagetronad:  author: Manuel Moos
14:40 <@armabot> armagetronad:  Reduced kill timeout in case cycle simulation gets stuck.
14:40 <@armabot> armagetronad:  Fixed cycles getting stuck because of tsTodo floating point rounding.
15:07 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9096 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/tron/gParser.cpp): Manuel Moos: Fixed uninitialized 'no' triad.
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15:10 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9098 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/tron/zone/zTimedZone.cpp): Manuel Moos: Another uninitailized Triad gone.
15:21 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1082 Removed unused variables.... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r879 Another uninitailized Triad gone.... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r878 Adapted to armatrator access level name change.... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r877 Fixed uninitialized 'no' triad.... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r876 Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 9063 to 9094:...
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16:24 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r880 Adapted respawn hack code to external changes.... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1083 Fixed exit cleanup failure (leading to crash at least on tru...
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16:39 <akira_arma> hi max
16:42 <madmax> hello
16:42 <madmax> holidays are over :<
16:42 <akira_arma> :(
16:43 <akira_arma> we won!
16:43 <madmax> yeah, congrats :)
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17:44 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9100 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/tron/gGame.cpp): Manuel Moos: Fixed exit cleanup failure (leading to crash at least on trunk) on timeouts.
17:46 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9101 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (6 files in 3 dirs):
17:46 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
17:46 <@armabot> armagetronad: Added "quit to game selection menu" state to uMenu::quickexit.
17:46 <@armabot> armagetronad: Using it to react on timeouts while a menu is getting displayed and to
17:46 <@armabot> armagetronad: properly abort pending server induced fullscreen messages.
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17:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9102 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/tron/gGame.cpp): Manuel Moos: Adapted respawn hack code to external changes.
18:32 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1084 Added "quit to game selection menu" state to uMenu::quickexi...
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18:51 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r9103 /armagetronad/trunk/ (7 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)
18:51 <@armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 9094 to 9102:
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18:51 <@armabot> armagetronad:  r9101 | bazaarmagetron | 2009-03-02 17:45:56 +0100 (Mon, 02 Mar 2009) | 5 lines
18:51 <@armabot> armagetronad:  author: Manuel Moos
18:51 <@armabot> armagetronad:  Added "quit to game selection menu" state to uMenu::quickexit.
18:51 <@armabot> armagetronad:  Using it to react on timeouts while a menu is getting displayed and to
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19:36 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r881 Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 9094 to 9102:...
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20:26 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r9105 /armagetronad/trunk/ (. armagetronad/src/macosx/SDLMain.mm):
20:26 <@armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 9102 to 9104:
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20:26 <@armabot> armagetronad:  r9104 | z-man | 2009-03-02 20:10:58 +0100 (Mon, 02 Mar 2009) | 2 lines
20:26 <@armabot> armagetronad:  Adapted to uMenu::quickexit changes.
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20:40 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1085 Adapted to uMenu::quickexit changes....
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21:10 <nsh22> hey hey hey
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21:13 <Vanhayes> hello
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21:30 <Vanhayes> anyone know why they named a world record book after an Irish beer?
21:30 <nsh22> becaus eut was that company who started it
21:31 <BabyBug> sponsored*
21:31 <nsh22> w/e
21:32 <Vanhayes> learn something new everyday
21:33 <Vanhayes> Beer, potatoes, whiskey and world records, what will they think of next
21:34 <PinkTomato> potatoes!
21:34 <nsh22> TOMATOES!
21:35 <PinkTomato> #m smoothice Last month I used 30GB
21:35 <@armabot> PinkTomato: The operation succeeded.
21:35 <Vanhayes> #q
21:35 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #64: "[14:14] <luke-jr> and needless to say, don't abuse power" (added by GodTodd at 11:42 PM, December 04, 2007)
21:35 <Vanhayes> ha
21:35 <Vanhayes> #q
21:35 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #24: "i'll be in grade 12 by fevurary -- spidey" (added by Lucifer_arma at 01:18 AM, October 21, 2006)
21:36 <nsh22> #quote
21:36 <@armabot> nsh22: Slab: Jus' say "AarrghaarrghpleeassennononoUGH" -- Detritus' war on drugs (Terry Pratchett, Feet of Clay)
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21:36 <nsh22> #q
21:36 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #66: "<Ady666> armabot say 'ello [...] <Ady666> its not smart enough" (added by epsy at 12:16 AM, December 22, 2007)
21:36 <nsh22> #q
21:36 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #58: "luke, your so cute when you think you are right about some crazy position. - philippeqc2" (added by GodTodd at 03:34 AM, August 13, 2007)
21:36 <Vanhayes> whatever happened to spidey?
21:37 <Vanhayes> #q
21:37 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #72: "epsy puts himself in the middle and eats it.  --epsy" (added by Lucifer_arma at 12:48 AM, July 28, 2008)
21:37 <Vanhayes> #q
21:37 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #45: "better an idiot that can admit it than a luke-jr....er, idiot that can't --GodTodd" (added by Lucifer_arma at 03:35 AM, March 12, 2007)
21:37 <Vanhayes> #q
21:37 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #50: "<epsy_> MrBougo, X frozed <epsy_> no more wrtl+alt+del" (added by epsy at 03:53 PM, July 09, 2007)
21:38 <nsh22> lol @ #45
21:38 <Vanhayes> #q
21:38 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #60: "<luke-jr> fanatics are good" (added by epsy at 10:27 AM, September 23, 2007)
21:38 <Vanhayes> heh
21:38 <Vanhayes> #q
21:38 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #82: "<TaZ> Ady-Lucifer: Nah, you're nicer than lucifer though" (added by K-Yo at 04:46 PM, December 13, 2008)
21:38 <Vanhayes> #q
21:39 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #19: "If we were wolves and we snuck into China, they'd try to eat us, but we'd eat them. --Lucifer's Son" (added by Lucifer_arma at 11:36 PM, July 05, 2006)
21:39 <PinkTomato> someone just post this quote file on a website please ^_^
21:39 <Vanhayes> #q
21:39 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #45: "better an idiot that can admit it than a luke-jr....er, idiot that can't --GodTodd" (added by Lucifer_arma at 03:35 AM, March 12, 2007)
21:39 <Vanhayes> #q get 1
21:39 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #74: "Pathetique: I find it funny how ivantis can write C++ but has no clue how to actually write it." (added by ct|kyle at 09:07 PM, July 28, 2008)
21:39 <Vanhayes> #quote get 1
21:39 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #1: "Was this compiled by our friend Sum Ting Wong? --WallyWallWhackr" (added by Lucifer_arma at 06:37 AM, March 24, 2006)
21:40 <Vanhayes> #quote get 10
21:40 <BabyBug> just do #q 1
21:40 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Error: There is no Quote with id #10 in my database for #armagetron.
21:40 <Vanhayes> #q 1
21:40 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #22: "i got a pen from a microsoft rep about 2 months ago.. already stopped working properly -- Plazma" (added by Lucifer_arma at 03:46 AM, September 19, 2006)
21:40 <BabyBug> or not :|
21:40 <BabyBug> #help q
21:40 <@armabot> BabyBug: (q <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "quote random".
21:40 <PinkTomato> #help quote
21:40 <Vanhayes> #quote get 15
21:40 <@armabot> PinkTomato: (quote <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://p4.rootnode.net/".
21:40 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #15: "You see a body ripped appart, blood splatter on the ceiling, gore all over. Tell me, would you really suspect that worm making a run for it toward the door at 5 cm per minute? No you would not! - philippeqc" (added by n54 at 08:09 PM, April 25, 2006)
21:42 <Vanhayes> #quote get 20
21:42 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #20: "ok luci, you'd know better on this one -- luke-jr" (added by wrtlprnft at 02:26 PM, August 24, 2006)
21:42 <Vanhayes> ha
21:42 <PinkTomato> hehe
21:43 <Vanhayes> #quote get 25
21:43 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Error: There is no Quote with id #25 in my database for #armagetron.
21:43 <Vanhayes> #quote get 21
21:43 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #21: "<Luke-Jr_work__> btw, pedophile is good" (added by spidey at 06:34 AM, September 09, 2006)
21:43 <Vanhayes> misquoting luke-jr seems to be a recurring theme
21:43 <Vanhayes> #quote get 30
21:43 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r882 Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 9102 to 9104:...
21:43 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #30: "Fonkay: Are you afraid of sex? -armabot" (added by spidey at 01:02 AM, November 02, 2006)
21:44 <Vanhayes> #quote get 35
21:44 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #35: "ur not a good writer :P - Ady" (added by Lucifer_arma at 11:00 PM, November 13, 2006)
21:44 <Vanhayes> #quote get 31
21:44 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #31: "<Fonkay> #eliza you are stupid <armabot> Fonkay: Why do you say i are stupid?" (added by Vanhayes at 01:05 AM, November 02, 2006)
21:45 <Vanhayes> #quote get 32
21:45 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #32: "i2020> sure you can... who told you that, little lukie wookie" (added by spidey at 07:34 PM, November 05, 2006)
21:46 <PinkTomato> Vanhayes: you might as well use #q if you are just using randoms ^_^
21:46 <Vanhayes> i want some of the earlier ones
21:46 <Vanhayes> #quote get 40
21:46 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #40: "Mommy, my sister said I was a mean tattletale - Lucifer's Son" (added by Lucifer_arma at 05:40 AM, December 16, 2006)
21:46 <epsy> #roulette
21:46 <@armabot> epsy: *click*
21:46 <epsy> :x
21:46 <epsy> for one time I don't cheat
21:47 <ct|kyle> #quote get 69
21:47 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Quote #69: "gentoo ebuild is as broken as luke-jr himself :D ~xfroggy" (added by ct|kyle at 06:23 PM, January 26, 2008)
21:47 <Vanhayes> #quote get 100
21:47 -!- teabot [i=xclan@fiji.dreamhost.com] has quit [SendQ exceeded]
21:47 <epsy> #quote get 80
21:47 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Error: There is no Quote with id #100 in my database for #armagetron.
21:47 <@armabot> epsy: Quote #80: "<luke-jr> Intel GPU pwns <luke-jr> CPU sucks" (added by epsy at 11:35 PM, August 04, 2008)
21:47 <Vanhayes> #quote get 80
21:47 <epsy> #quote get 90
21:47 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #80: "<luke-jr> Intel GPU pwns <luke-jr> CPU sucks" (added by epsy at 11:35 PM, August 04, 2008)
21:47 <@armabot> epsy: Error: There is no Quote with id #90 in my database for #armagetron.
21:47 <Vanhayes> #quote get 88
21:47 <epsy> #quote get 89
21:47 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #88: "Flex: you start your grind at the zone, by the time you get to the split it's weak, not to mention the guy is burning the same rubber.." (added by madmax at 01:15 AM, January 31, 2009)
21:47 <@armabot> epsy: Quote #89: "<ct|kyle>: smoothice: you can with zones v3" (added by epsy at 12:19 AM, February 15, 2009)
21:47 <ct|kyle> I thin k 87
21:47 <Vanhayes> 89 it seems
21:47 <Vanhayes> #quote get 91
21:47 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Error: There is no Quote with id #91 in my database for #armagetron.
21:47 <ct|kyle> I forgot epsy added that pointless one
21:48 <epsy> it's a funny one, heh
21:48 <madmax> 88 ftw
21:49 <Vanhayes> ya thats a bit disturbing
21:49 <ct|kyle> 69 FTW
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21:49 <Vanhayes> arma terms can be mistrewed easily if taken out of context
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21:50 <Vanhayes> misconstrewed* if that is even how you spell it
21:50 <Vanhayes> dont think it is
21:50 <BabyBug> misconstrued
21:51 <Vanhayes> there it is
21:51 <epsy> onoz
21:52 <nsh22> whats the command to give a global id admin?
21:52 <epsy> s/global id/user/ ?
21:53 <nsh22> ?
21:53 <nsh22> for in game?
21:53 <epsy> you want to change someone's access level, right?
21:53 <nsh22> yes
21:53 <epsy> USER_LEVEL
21:53 <nsh22> ... i tried that
21:53 <epsy> did you read config/settings_authentication.cfg ?
21:54 <epsy> what did you try and what were the results
21:54 <epsy> because that's the command to change an user's access level
21:55 <nsh22> ...
21:55 <epsy> [22:54] <epsy>: what did you try and what were the results ?
21:56 <epsy> if you don't answer this I quit trying to help you, because shot-in-the-dark answers are not my thing
21:56 <nsh22> i tried /admin user_level ****@forums 1
21:56 <nsh22> it said it changed it, but his status never canged
21:56 <epsy> ok
21:56 <nsh22> when i /players
21:56 <epsy> did he log in again?
21:57 <nsh22> im checking that
21:58 <nsh22> its didnt work
21:59 <epsy> right, I published my branch for modules up, feel free to contribute to it, the architecture should be pretty obvious
21:59 <epsy>  /listadmins
22:00 <Vanhayes> #list
22:00 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Format, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Insult, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Nickometer, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
22:01 <Vanhayes> #list games
22:01 <nsh22> hes there, but its like his name is wrong...but it isnt
22:01 <@armabot> Vanhayes: coin, dice, eightball, monologue, and roulette
22:02 <epsy> Vanhayes, can you do the bot love in PM please?
22:02 <epsy> nsh22, capitalisation counts
22:02 <nsh22> si now
22:02 <epsy> hm?
22:02 <nsh22> i capitalised it
22:02 <Vanhayes> nah ill just stop altogether
22:02 <nsh22> sand it shows up as smal caps
22:03 <epsy> nsh22, can I see?
22:03 <Vanhayes> nsh22: is s your talk button in arma?
22:03 <nsh22> see what?
22:03 <nsh22> yes
22:03 <epsy> server
22:04 <nsh22> nw central neals ctfs
22:04 <nsh22> night walkers*
22:05 <epsy> @sd night walkers central neals ctfs
22:05 <teabot> epsy: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “night walkers central neals ctfs” at the moment, sorry.
22:05 <BabyBug> epsy, wth is armagetron-squat?
22:06 <epsy> https://launchpad.net/~armagetronad-squat
22:06 <nsh22> ~night walkers central ~neals
22:07 <nsh22> #si ~night walkers central ~neals
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22:07 <@armabot> nsh22: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “~night walkers central ~neals” at the moment, sorry.
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22:14 <BabyBug> epsy, don't get it :P
22:14 <epsy> BabyBug, the quality assurance team
22:14 <epsy> since you are a good bug reporter
22:22 <epsy> right, people are robbing FFF from me :<
22:23 <Vanhayes> fff?
22:23 <epsy> fortress for four
22:24 <luke-jr> is that my SoloFortress renamed? O.o
22:24 <BabyBug> don't need a badge epsy :P
22:24 <luke-jr> or somethign else
22:24 <BabyBug> luke-jr, fff is two teams. 4 players
22:24 <BabyBug> bewb!
22:24 <epsy> luke-jr, basically simply fortress in temas of four
22:25 <luke-jr> o
22:25 <luke-jr> very diff
22:25 <luke-jr> ☺_
22:25 <epsy> http://fff.armagetron.co.uk/
22:26 <Vanhayes> anyon eever try that big map i made for four team fort?
22:26 <epsy> link?
22:26 <Vanhayes> hmm wonder if it is even on repository
22:26 <Vanhayes> just a sec
22:26 <epsy> no wonder nobody uses it
22:27 <Vanhayes> what, you cant just get it off my computer?
22:27 <epsy> no :)
22:27 <Vanhayes> laziness i say
22:27 <Vanhayes> hmm where is the repository link on arma page?
22:28 <epsy> beta.armagetronad.net
22:28 <nsh22> ct|kyle: i think i found a bug on ct+sty
22:29 <epsy> nsh22, this is close to asking to ask
22:32 <nsh22> may i ask you a question then? :P
22:33 <epsy> /ignore nsh22 ALL
22:33 <nsh22> i actually have a question, what happens if a styball gets stuck in a corner
22:33 <epsy> like what?
22:34 <Vanhayes> luke-jr: http://aabeta.dashjr.org/resource/ is that where that nice looking resource veiwer is
22:34 <nsh22> i had an instance when the styball was pushed into a corner and just stayed there...
22:36 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: http://beta.armagetronad.net has a link
22:36 <Vanhayes> ah, thanks
22:36 <Vanhayes> wasnt opening for me from the mainsite
22:37 <Vanhayes> http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/Vanhayes/fortress/double_fortress-1.aamap.xml  <-- thats the one i was talking about
22:37 <Vanhayes> I think i meant for it to be so you could play more than 8 vs 8 without it getting crowded
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22:39 <Vanhayes> nsh22: you are from barrie ontario?
22:42 <nsh22> ??? why
22:42 <Vanhayes> nsh22 (n=neal@bas3-barrie18-1279549255.dsl.bell.ca) has joined #armagetron
22:42 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: that means yes
22:42 <Vanhayes> bell plus barrie = barrie ontario
22:43 <Vanhayes> oh ya been meaning to mention, dont know if its really a bug but the cockpit i made doesnt work correctly anymore
22:43 <Vanhayes> well, the minimap doesnt
22:44 <Vanhayes> its all white now instead of transparent
22:44 <ct|kyle> nsh22: there is code in it to reset the position of it (some setting)
22:48 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: you run trunk?
22:48 <Vanhayes> noi, think its the newest 0.3 on the beta site
22:50 <Vanhayes> er, was the newest as of a week ago anyways
22:51 <Vanhayes> alpha 8870 it says
22:52 <Vanhayes> anyways its only white on my cockpit not the default one
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23:02 <nsh22> #si neals random server
23:02 <@armabot> nsh22: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “neals random server” at the moment, sorry.
23:02 <nsh22> #si neal
23:02 <@armabot> nsh22: ~Night Walker's Central~Neal's Random Server~: Players (6/8): +|Zurd~Nw (ZURD101@forums), .Dk|2Fåç£, Fish~NW (Fish~NW@), Neal~NW (nsh22@forums), pop, WrEcKlEsS
23:03 <epsy> brmmmpppffff
23:03 <epsy> good night
23:03 <Vanhayes> #si elim
23:03 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Bugfarm Elimination Sumo: Players (7/16): -+:tade-, I/O Bus [incam], madmax, noobSaibot, sithy, The Puffin Wars, Z-1200
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00:04 <nsh22> colour codes dont work on beta?
00:04 <nsh22> #r
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00:14 <Vanhayes> noising split?
00:15 <nsh22> ??
00:15 <nsh22> swhy so many ppl leave
00:15 <nsh22> bartol mustve whent down
00:15 <nsh22> ok nvm
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00:25 <Vanhayes> #dict bulletism
00:25 <@armabot> Vanhayes: No definition for "bulletism" could be found.
00:25 <Vanhayes> knew it
00:26 <nsh22> #weather barrie
00:26 <@armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Barrie Tall Oaks West End, Barrie, Ontario is 7.0°F (6:25 PM EST on March 02, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: -9.4°F. Windchill: 6.8°F. Pressure: 30.41 in 1029.7 hPa (Steady).
00:30 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
00:30 <Vanhayes> freezing rain is awesome
00:30 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
00:31 <Vanhayes> #weather moncton
00:31 <Vanhayes> #weather E5n 5C5
00:31 <@armabot> Vanhayes: The current temperature in Moncton, New Brunswick is 26.6°F (7:00 PM AST on March 02, 2009). Conditions: Light Ice Pellets. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 24.8°F. Windchill: 14.0°F. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Falling).
00:31 <@armabot> Vanhayes: The current temperature in Hampton High School, Hampton, New Brunswick is 27.1°F (7:31 PM AST on March 02, 2009). Conditions: Light Freezing Rain. Humidity: 255%. Windchill: 17.6°F. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Falling).
00:31 <Vanhayes> hmm, i dont live in a school
00:32 <nsh22> lol its the clsest weather station :P
00:32 <nsh22> or landmark
00:33 <luke-jr> ugh
00:33 <luke-jr> to block time-based zone segments in the schema, we'd need to upgrade to XSD or something
00:33 <luke-jr> :/
00:34 <nsh22> ???
00:34 <nsh22> wtf is xsd
00:37 <luke-jr> GIYF
00:38 <nsh22> @gtfy xsd
00:38 <teabot> xsd: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=(urlquote <text>) -- Returns the URL quoted form of the text.
00:38 <nsh22> i take it you meant that?
00:38 <nsh22> @gtfy neal xsd
00:38 <teabot> neal: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=xsd
00:39 -!- smoothice [n=smoothic@97-122-119-120.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #armagetron
00:39 <nsh22> yo
00:39 <smoothice> hi
00:39 <nsh22> you missed a kerfuffle on my server
00:39 <smoothice> ?
00:39 <nsh22> i couldnt op zurd
00:39 <nsh22> or anyone
00:39 <smoothice> fail
00:40 <nsh22> we were like, whrres smooth when you need him :P
00:41 <smoothice> luke-jr: When I compiled zv2 sty yesterday I was unable to get a flag zone to appear
00:41 <smoothice> luke-jr: using the zones v1 map
00:42 <luke-jr> sounds like a bug
00:43 <smoothice> ?
00:43 <smoothice> luke-jr: do I have to add anything to gParser
00:43 <luke-jr> nope
00:44 <smoothice> :/
00:45 <smoothice> Might you be able to quickly glance at the code?
00:45 <smoothice> https://code.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-sty-0.3/armagetronad/armagetronad-v2sty
00:46 <nsh22> smoothice: msn?
00:46 <smoothice> nsh22: oops, forgot lol
00:46 <luke-jr> nsh22: is fail
00:46 <nsh22> me or msn?
00:46 <nsh22> or both...
00:47 <luke-jr> msn
00:47 <luke-jr> and  u for using it
00:47 <nsh22> so smooth fails too?
00:47 <smoothice> I use AIM
00:47 <smoothice> and GTalk
00:47 <smoothice> lol
00:48 <luke-jr> liar
00:48 <smoothice> nope
00:48 <smoothice> I use iChat
00:48 <smoothice> with both of those
00:48 <luke-jr> see you online, I do not
00:49 <smoothice> luke-jr: so can you glance at my code?
00:49 <nsh22> for what?
00:49 <luke-jr> maybe
00:49 <smoothice> zv2 sty
00:49 <smoothice> anyone here scared of a solar storm causing global power outage for years?
00:49 <smoothice> in 2012?
00:50 <luke-jr> no
00:50 <nsh22> ...
00:50 <luke-jr> that's like 3 years away
00:50 <nsh22> thats one of the many 2012 stories
00:50 <smoothice> solar cycle ends in 2011
00:50 <smoothice> solar max
00:51 <nsh22> ?
00:51 <luke-jr> smoothice: you'er still offline on GTalk
00:51 <smoothice> I'm not smoothice@gmail.com
00:51 <smoothice> -.-
00:51 <luke-jr> …
00:51 <smoothice> luke-jr: please... http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Earmagetronad-sty-0.3/armagetronad/armagetronad-v2sty/annotate/head%3A/src/tron/zone//zFlag.cpp
00:51 <luke-jr> skierjunk
00:51 <smoothice> oh
00:51 <smoothice> that's my junk gtalk
00:51 <smoothice> mail
00:51 <luke-jr> -.-
00:51 <smoothice> I don't use that one
00:51 <luke-jr> -.-
00:51 <smoothice> It forwards to my main
00:51 <smoothice> :P
00:51 <luke-jr> -.-
00:52 <luke-jr> skier?
00:52 <smoothice> you ain't getting hold of my main
00:52 <smoothice> nice try
00:52 <nsh22> why not?
00:53 <luke-jr> guess I can't talk to you about the code then
00:53 <smoothice> I don't need random crap going there
00:53 <luke-jr> oh well
00:53 <smoothice> ...
00:53 <smoothice> luke
00:53 <smoothice> sometimes I wish you'd just help me and not make a fit about it
00:53 <luke-jr> ?
00:53 <nsh22> just give it to luke, hes gonna get it anyways
00:53 <luke-jr> the code is way over there-------------------->
00:53 <luke-jr> on desktop 4
00:53 <luke-jr> IRC is on like
00:54 <luke-jr> desktop 12
00:54 <smoothice> I linked you?
00:54 <luke-jr> <----------- over there
00:54 <smoothice> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Earmagetronad-sty-0.3/armagetronad/armagetronad-v2sty/annotate/head%3A/src/tron/zone//zFlag.cpp
00:54 <nsh22> how many desktops do you have luke?
00:54 <luke-jr> nsh22: 16
00:54 <nsh22> ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!
00:54 <smoothice> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Earmagetronad-sty-0.3/armagetronad/armagetronad-v2sty/annotate/head%3A/src/tron/zone//zFlag.cpp
00:54 <smoothice> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Earmagetronad-sty-0.3/armagetronad/armagetronad-v2sty/annotate/head%3A/src/tron/zone//zFlag.cpp
00:54 <nsh22> wtf?
00:54 <luke-jr> smoothice: if I open it, it goes to desktop 4
00:54 <nsh22> who needs and uses 16 desktops, and why?
00:55 <luke-jr> nsh22: I use about 10 of them
00:55 <@armabot> lpbugs: [336973] Possible hole in the resource uploader <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/336973>
00:56 <nsh22> are they all in the same room?
00:56 <luke-jr> …….
00:56 <luke-jr> wtf does that mean
00:56 <nsh22> like do you have one big room with all your comps in it?
00:56 <nsh22> or in separate rooms?
00:57 <luke-jr> uh
00:57 <luke-jr> not THAT kind of desktop, idiot
00:57 <luke-jr> virtual desktops
00:57 <luke-jr> -.-
00:57 <nsh22> ??
00:57 <luke-jr> living room has 2 comps, storage room has 2
00:57 <luke-jr> that's all
00:58 <nsh22> /me is confused
00:58 <smoothice> #si -v MIKE
00:58 <@armabot> smoothice: MIKE PENIS ( running win hybrid, Description: “Nothing special.“, Players (2/16): Mike, Player 1
00:58 <nsh22> what is a virtual destop then?
00:58 <luke-jr> -.-
00:58 <smoothice> MIKE PENIS ( running win hybrid
00:58 <luke-jr> @gtfy nsh22 virtual desktops
00:58 <teabot> nsh22: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=virtual%20desktops
00:59 <nsh22> ty :P
00:59 <luke-jr> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_desktop
00:59 <nsh22> im already there :P
01:00 <smoothice> MIKE PENIS ( running win hybrid
01:00 <smoothice> lol
01:00 <nsh22> wtf do you keep brng that u[
01:00 <smoothice> I don't know lol
01:00 <nsh22> who cares?
01:00 <smoothice> wisely, correctly and legitimately™
01:00 <smoothice> olz
01:01 <nsh22> ]yandere
01:01 <ljrbot> A yandere game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "]yandere" to join.
01:01 <nsh22> :)
01:02 <luke-jr> nsh22: #anime
01:02 <nsh22> ...
01:02 <nsh22> i know but their into anime, and im not
01:02 <luke-jr> wah wah
01:02 <luke-jr> you're starting the anime version of the game anyhow
01:02 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
01:02 <nsh22> ]yandere end
01:02 <ljrbot> The yandere game game has been forced to end.
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02:36 <GodTodd> grrr....why can't I delete these files? :/
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02:37 <luke-jr> GodTodd: I locked them
02:38 <GodTodd> sure thing
02:38 <luke-jr> chattr -i
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02:49 <GodTodd> nope...still says it's read only
02:50 <luke-jr> :o
02:50 <luke-jr> as root?
02:51 <GodTodd> yep
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03:17 <GodTodd> man...it won't even let me *copy* the files
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04:00 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/ZURD/clever/shootout-1.1.aamap.xml: Resource by ZURD
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05:43 <Lucifer_arma> #fetch http://www.davefancella.com
05:44 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: '<?xml version="1.0"\n?>\n<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">\n<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">\n<head>\n<title>Dave Fancella</title>\n<meta name="generator" content="http://txt2tags.sf.net" />\n<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="style/main.css" />\n<link rel="stylesheet" (5 more messages)
05:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9106 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/tron/gGame.cpp): Daniel Lee Harple: more quick exit changes
06:00 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1086 more quick exit changes
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09:46 <@armabot> wrtlprnft_: The operation succeeded.
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12:55 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9107 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/network/nNetwork.cpp):
12:55 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
12:55 <@armabot> armagetronad: No longer sending protobuf logout messages when non-protobuf login
12:55 <@armabot> armagetronad: fails. Of course, the next course of action after the failure is to send a protobuf
12:55 <@armabot> armagetronad: login message, so this is more of a cosmetic change.
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13:24 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r883 No longer sending protobuf logout messages when non-protobuf...
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13:35 <@armabot> lpbugs: [337193] Locked teams with only AIs <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/337193>
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15:33 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1087 In debug mode, no longer check for desktop dimensions unless... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r885 Fetching correct camera for raycasts so camviews don't crash... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r884 Added missing _born initialization....
15:35 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9108 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/render/rScreen.cpp):
15:35 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
15:35 <@armabot> armagetronad: In debug mode, no longer check for desktop dimensions unless desktop
15:35 <@armabot> armagetronad: fullscreen mode is selected. This avoids the annoying flickering and
15:35 <@armabot> armagetronad: makes the window find an actually useful place on the desktop instead
15:35 <@armabot> armagetronad: of jumping to the top left corner.
15:47 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r9109 /armagetronad/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)
15:47 <@armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 9104 to 9108:
15:47 <@armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
15:47 <@armabot> armagetronad:  r9108 | bazaarmagetron | 2009-03-03 15:35:34 +0100 (Tue, 03 Mar 2009) | 6 lines
15:47 <@armabot> armagetronad:  author: Manuel Moos
15:47 <@armabot> armagetronad:  In debug mode, no longer check for desktop dimensions unless desktop
15:47 <@armabot> armagetronad:  fullscreen mode is selected. This avoids the annoying flickering and
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16:03 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9110 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/eDisplay.cpp src/engine/eGameObject.cpp): (log message trimmed)
16:03 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Bazaarmagetron
16:03 <@armabot> armagetronad: Automatic merging of commits that would change history order:
16:03 <@armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------
16:03 <@armabot> armagetronad:  revno: 883.1.2
16:03 <@armabot> armagetronad:  committer: Manuel Moos <z-man@users.sf.net>
16:03 <@armabot> armagetronad:  branch nick: armagetronad
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16:19 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9111 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/render/rScreen.cpp):
16:19 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
16:19 <@armabot> armagetronad: Saving successful screen initializations so multiple instances sharing
16:19 <@armabot> armagetronad: configuration don't switch to unwanted setups.
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16:30 <BabyBug> sorry =x
16:33 <epsy> np :)
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16:35 <epsy> #ping
16:35 <@armabot> pong
16:35 <epsy> @ping
16:36 <teabot> pong
16:37 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r885 Automatic merging of commits that would change history order... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r884 Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 9104 to 9108:... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r886 Saving successful screen initializations so multiple instanc... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] Fetching correct camera for raycasts so camviews don't crash... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] Added missing _born i
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17:00 <zmanuel> hey epsy, what about that French translation? :)
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17:01 <z-man> Shall I mark it as delayed for some bugfix release after
17:01 <epsy> yeah
17:01 <luke-jr> :<
17:01 <BabyBug> Do people actually use them translations?
17:01 <epsy> I would even delay it to gettext :<
17:01 <BabyBug> I mean seriously....there's so much to translate
17:01 <BabyBug> surely people know english :P
17:01 <epsy> BabyBug, not really no
17:01 <z-man> Yeah, I spent essentially three or four tron days to update the German version
17:02 <z-man> and it was missing a lot less than the French.
17:02 <epsy> and French has oddities to I pretty much have to review it all
17:02 <z-man> Some of the recordings we get from German players use German.
17:02 <epsy> so *
17:02 <epsy> being able to use Launchpad translations would be awesome :x
17:03 <z-man> Yeah.
17:03 <BabyBug> Why don't you?
17:03 <z-man> Work?
17:03 <BabyBug> ...
17:03 <z-man> We need to a) integrate gettext
17:03 <z-man> b) get all the english text back into the source properly
17:04 <epsy> a script SHOULD be able to do that
17:04 <z-man> c) get the translations converted to gettext format
17:04 <epsy> that being b and c
17:04 <z-man> d) cope with merge hell if someone submits 0.2.8 translations.
17:04 <BabyBug> Ok but..still, wouldn't it be good to encourage people to fill out LP translations? Rather than integrate it, and THEN translate?
17:04 <z-man> (solution to d: don't bother.)
17:05 <z-man> BabyBug: that still requires a) and b).
17:05 <epsy> By the way, regarding config items, would we just use the old syntax?
17:05 <z-man> Good question. There's some 'standard' text items.
17:06 <z-man> Mostly the config _help texts, really.
17:06 <z-man> The dynamically generated config items would be most problematic.
17:07 <epsy> like?
17:07 <epsy> colors and stuff?
17:07 <z-man> Team names
17:07 <epsy> ah yeah
17:07 <z-man> TEAM_NAME_X
17:07 <z-man> also, the gettext tools may bork.
17:07 <epsy> that's pretty much where I want to act with my cfg item redesign
17:07 <z-man> Problem is that we'd need to pass the english text in on construction of some items
17:08 <z-man> otherwise gt won't know it needs translation (I guess)
17:08 <z-man> but then, the translation is also done on object construction time.
17:08 <z-man> So changing the language would require a restart.
17:08 <epsy> shouldn't you be able to change language while running, according to gt?
17:09 <z-man> yeah, but that doesn't help if the text is translated, then stored.
17:09 <z-man> Anyway, it's nontrivial, no matter what we do there.
17:10  * z-man has to run to avoid trouble with wife
17:10 <epsy> so it also depends on cfg restructure :<
17:10 <epsy> bb
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19:07 <BabyBug> \o/
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19:54 <epsy> hi BabyBug
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23:16 <nsh22> hai hai hai
23:16 <nsh22> #anime
23:17 <epsy> do not start promoting that chan as well
23:18 <nsh22> no i forgot to /join
23:18 <nsh22> i jujts like the yandere and loli games
23:18 <epsy> yeah, stuff we don't want
23:18 <nsh22> what about /away msgs?
23:19 <nsh22> :P
23:19 <nsh22> i thought you ignored me? lol
23:19 <epsy> [00:18] <epsy>: yeah, stuff we don't want
23:19 <epsy> you ? no
23:21 <nsh22> ]yc
23:21 <ljrbot> pteague, shortc|desk, luke-jr, Lazy_Zefiris, shloosh, White_Cat, Cherub, Isum, DuClare, moses_, desu, PinkTomato, Lamperi, mgolisch, phokeu|work, Vohveli, Yokatta, Meow_Zefiris, Rosalia, und3f, turkuamk, White_Cat, [wito]
23:21 <nsh22> ???
23:21 <nsh22> ]help yc
23:21 <ljrbot> nsh22: (yc <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo pteague, shortc|desk, luke-jr, Lazy_Zefiris, shloosh, White_Cat, Cherub, Isum, DuClare, moses_, desu, PinkTomato, Lamperi, mgolisch, phokeu|work, Vohveli, Yokatta, Meow_Zefiris, Rosalia, und3f, turkuamk, White_Cat, [wito]".
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23:54 <nsh22> I GOT A LINUX DISK! wewt~
23:55 <nsh22> so if i installed linux in my external hard drive, it would delete all of my files on there, but not on my comp?
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23:57 <epsy> ah, I need to do that
23:57 <epsy> how big is DSL?
23:57 <nsh22> ???
23:57 <epsy> anyone tried it?
23:58 <nsh22> dsl as in internet?>
23:58 <Vanhayes> what do you meean?
23:58 <epsy> damn small linux
23:59 <nsh22> anyway, can you answer my queston epsy?
23:59 <epsy> what?
23:59 <nsh22> so if i installed linux in my external hard drive, it would delete all of my files on there, but not on my comp?

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00:00 <epsy> depends
00:00 <nsh22> i have no partitions on it
00:00 <epsy> you can make some with the installer
00:00 <epsy> usually
00:01 <nsh22> would it delete my files?
00:02 <epsy> usually not
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00:11 <@armabot> Vanhayes: ghableska was last seen in #armagetron 37 weeks, 1 day, 7 hours, 46 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <ghableska> oh hi monkey
00:12 <Vanhayes> #lastseen ghableska
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00:13 <nsh22> epsy: have you installed ubuntu before?
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00:16 <Vanhayes> hello
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00:22 <nsh22> ugh backing up my files is taking forever....
00:23 <PinkTomato> nsh22: How big and what media :)?
00:23 <nsh22> what is the best method for moving 10gb of stuff into a folder?
00:23 <nsh22> 10 gb, give or atake a gb or 2
00:23 <smoothice> in windows?
00:23 <nsh22> yes
00:23 <smoothice> I don't know then lol
00:23 <nsh22> ...
00:24 <PinkTomato> to what media?
00:24 <epsy> nsh22, kubuntu, a whiiiiiiiiiile ago
00:24 <nsh22> ??/
00:24 <nsh22> what you mean to what media?
00:24 <nsh22> epsy, what?
00:24 <PinkTomato> FAT32/NTFS is faster than writing than EXT3 :)
00:24 <nsh22> ah
00:24 <epsy> whatN
00:24 <PinkTomato> That's what I heard anyway
00:25 <PinkTomato> nsh22: where are putting this data?
00:25 <nsh22> epsy: epsy> nsh22, kubuntu, a whiiiiiiiiiile ago <===what dies that mean?
00:25 <epsy> writing to ext3 you mean?
00:25 <nsh22> im poutting it in my internal hd
00:25 <epsy> [01:13] <nsh22>: epsy: have you installed ubuntu before?
00:25 <PinkTomato> epsy: yeap
00:25 <nsh22> oh
00:25 <epsy> I'm soon going to try having an old pc gboot from usb mass storage :d
00:25 <epsy> *-g
00:26 <nsh22> from fat32 to ntfs
00:26 <PinkTomato> You are converting your hard drive from fat32 to ntfs?
00:26 <epsy> oo, dsl is 50MB only
00:26 <epsy> pew
00:27 <nsh22> the time estimate is jumping from 30 mins to 130 mins....
00:27 <epsy> well, that will greatly fit on an usb stick
00:28 <epsy> until then, goood night
00:28 <nsh22> noooo!!!!!
00:30 <nsh22> i shold be able to run linux from my ext. hd correct?
00:30 <PinkTomato> nsh22: what are doing?
00:30 <nsh22> ?
00:30 <PinkTomato> nsh22: depends on your BIOS,
00:30 <nsh22> bios?
00:30 <epsy> depends on bios
00:30 <epsy> BUUT
00:30 <nsh22> wtf are bios
00:30 <epsy> you could install grub on the first hd to boot from the second hd
00:30 <epsy> nsh22, gtfy
00:30 <epsy> :)
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00:31 <nsh22> boot from wat to wat?
00:31 <smoothice> grub
00:31 <nsh22> @gtfy neal bios
00:31 <teabot> neal: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=bios
00:31 <smoothice> lol
00:32 <PinkTomato> You need a BIOS that can handle a USB external device boot, most, if not all new PC's support this.
00:33 <PinkTomato> A BIOS is the first thing that is loaded on a PC boot, and is stored on chip(?) that can be erased and updated.
00:34 <PinkTomato> Alternatively, you can install GRUB on the Hard Drive method
00:34 <nsh22> 0-0~\
00:35 <nsh22> will it work for 7.04?
00:36 <smoothice> yes
00:36 <smoothice> but get 8.10
00:36 <smoothice> It's better
00:36 <nsh22> ... so would i just download it from the site?
00:36 <smoothice> yes
00:36 <smoothice> or torrent it
00:36 <nsh22> @gtfy ubuntu install
00:36 <teabot> ubuntu: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=install
00:36 <nsh22> @gtfy neal ubuntu install
00:36 <teabot> neal: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu%20install
00:37 <nsh22> ack, i should finish my english first
00:38 <smoothice> lolz
00:38 <smoothice> yeah
00:38 <smoothice> HW first!
00:40 <smoothice> PinkTomato: BIOS is not the first thing
00:41 <smoothice> PinkTomato: For most people, BIOS is nonexistant:D
00:41 <smoothice> PinkTomato: It's EFI :)
00:42 <PinkTomato> No one has EFI! :D
00:42 <smoothice> I do
00:42 <PinkTomato> That's almost exclusively macinotosh
00:42 <nsh22> how do i check to see if i have bios
00:42 <smoothice> How old is ur comp
00:43 <nsh22> erm....
00:43 <nsh22> i has windows ex home 2002 edition
00:44 <nsh22> xp*
00:44 <smoothice> ex-pee?
00:44 <nsh22> ...
00:44 <smoothice> ok
00:44 <smoothice> Windows XP SP2
00:44 <smoothice> How old is the hardware?
00:44 <smoothice> BIOS is separate from the operating system
00:44 <nsh22> i dunno, where can i find that?
00:45 <smoothice> ok what's your computer model?
00:46 <nsh22> i dunno
00:46 <smoothice> dude
00:46 <smoothice> It's on the freaking tower
00:46 <smoothice> -.-
00:47 <smoothice> Dell Inspiron 2600
00:47 <smoothice> whatever
00:47 <nsh22> i cant talk right now, moms having a "fest"
00:47 <smoothice> kk
00:47 <Vanhayes> whats a "fest"?
00:48 <smoothice> Don't ask
00:48 <nsh22> short form for bitchfest
00:48 <smoothice> ....
00:48 <nsh22> in my saying sanyway
00:48 <Vanhayes> i see
00:48 <smoothice> What's a bitchfest?
00:48 <Vanhayes> a festival of bitches
00:48 <nsh22> ...do i really need to explain...
00:48 <smoothice> where ur mom
00:48 <smoothice> gets mad
00:48 <smoothice> really quick?
00:48 <nsh22> shes just going on a  rant about me not doing my hw
00:48 <smoothice> k
00:48 <smoothice> do it
00:48 <Vanhayes> nhomework is overrated
00:48 <smoothice> ?
00:48 <smoothice> dude
00:49 <nsh22> i know :)
00:49 <smoothice> if you don't do your homework
00:49 <smoothice> you fail school
00:49 <smoothice> and don't get a good job
00:49 <smoothice> and fail life
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00:49 <Vanhayes> just do the "homework" in school then its done
00:49 <nsh22> i do my homework, but on my own terms
00:49 <smoothice> I have study hall at school but usually spend it playing N
00:50 <smoothice> unless I have a lot... then I do it lol
00:50 <PinkTomato> Just do yr homework when you get it :), do fun stuff later
00:51 <PinkTomato> Otherwise you'll be stressed every weekend :)
00:51 <smoothice> ok so I've got an essay due march 18
00:51 <smoothice> what am I supposed to do? do it all in one big chunk?
00:51 <smoothice> then I'd have no fun for a whole week
00:51 <PinkTomato> Depends how you study
00:51 <smoothice> It's an analytical essay on a book
00:51 <smoothice> -.-
00:52 <PinkTomato> Some people prefer to do a little bit each day
00:53 <smoothice> hmm
00:53 <smoothice> it depends for me I guess
00:54 <nsh22> morella is bout someone in the dak arts...???
00:54 <nsh22> fuck you edgar allan poe
00:54 <smoothice> @gtfy nsh22 morella
00:54 <teabot> nsh22: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=morella
00:55 <nsh22> i already did, thats how i found out...
00:55 <nsh22> @gtfy smoothice how to use lmgtfy at the right time :)
00:55 <teabot> smoothice: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=how%20to%20use%20lmgtfy%20at%20the%20right%20time%20%3A%29
00:55 <smoothice> ...
00:55 <nsh22> XD
00:55 <smoothice> XD
00:56 <smoothice> Currently removing Adobe Contribute CS3...
00:56 <nsh22> zurd forgot to change max clients back to ten after he tested wreckless
00:56 <smoothice> ...
00:56 <smoothice> did you set it back?
00:56 <nsh22> it was stuck at 2...
00:56 <nsh22> yes i did
00:56 <smoothice> k
00:56 <smoothice> zurd does that a lot
00:56 <smoothice> it seems
00:57 <nsh22> edgar allan poe writes some fucked up shit...
00:58 <smoothice> ...
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00:58 <nsh22> with a lot of incest
00:58 <smoothice> maybe ur fuckup up shit
00:58 <smoothice> loll!!!
00:58 <Maverik> potter aint on here is he?
00:58 <smoothice> nsh22: say sofa king max really fast in front of your mom
00:59 <smoothice> replace the word max with your mom's name
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00:59 <smoothice> Maverik: nope
00:59 <nsh22> in a story the character loves his wife, then wants her to die, she dies giving childbirth, her baby i a reinarnation of here, he names it (at the age of 10) morella after her mother, then he falls in love with his daughter, then she dies...
01:00 <nsh22> fukd much?
01:00 <smoothice> ?
01:00 <smoothice> lol
01:00 <Maverik> o...k
01:00 <smoothice> Maverik:
01:00 <smoothice> #seen potter
01:00 <@armabot> smoothice: I have not seen potter.
01:00 <smoothice> hmmm
01:00 <smoothice> @seen potter
01:01 <smoothice> The_Master: seen potter
01:01 <The_Master> smoothice: No I have not seen it. What's it like?
01:01 <Maverik> he was on arma a bit ago, it dunt matter, i was talking to him about summat on tv but he got cut off
01:01 <smoothice> #ls potter
01:01 <@armabot> smoothice: ppotter has last been seen on [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. 1 hour 7 minutes ago.
01:01 <smoothice> Maverik: is that him?
01:02 <Maverik> yeah, ppotter, it wasnt that long ago
01:02 <smoothice> k
01:02 <Maverik> i couldnt be arsed to reconnect to the game to talk talk to him, just wondered if he was on here
01:02 <Maverik> lol
01:03 <smoothice> LOL
01:03 <smoothice> #ls Maverik
01:03 <@armabot> smoothice: Maverik has last been seen on [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. 16 minutes ago.
01:03 <smoothice> heehee
01:03 <Maverik> yep
01:03 <nsh22> #ls neal
01:03 <@armabot> nsh22: Neal~NW has last been seen on  ~Night Walker's Central~DF~ 56 minutes ago.
01:03 <nsh22> :D
01:03 <nsh22> #ls smooth
01:03 <@armabot> nsh22: +|SmOoThice~NW seems to be on  ~Night Walker's Central~DF~ right now.
01:03 <smoothice> lol
01:03 <nsh22> whats with the +|
01:04 <smoothice> twitchers
01:04 <nsh22> ?
01:04 <smoothice> #ls smooth
01:04 <@armabot> smoothice: +|SmOoThice~NW seems to be on  ~Night Walker's Central~DF~ right now.
01:04 <nsh22> what is it?
01:05 <Maverik> #1s terridon
01:05 <Maverik> #Is terridon
01:05 <nsh22> its l s
01:05 <nsh22> as in L
01:06 <Maverik> ah k
01:06 <smoothice> #ls terridon
01:06 <@armabot> smoothice: Terridon has last been seen on [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. 1 hour 5 minutes ago.
01:06 <smoothice> #seen nexus
01:06 <nsh22> #ls quantum
01:06 <@armabot> smoothice: I have not seen nexus.
01:06 <@armabot> nsh22: QuantumSquirrel seems to be on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. right now.
01:06 <smoothice> lol
01:06 <nsh22> #ls quantam
01:06 <Maverik> #1s burnedout
01:06 <smoothice> #ls ARabid
01:06 <smoothice> LS
01:06 <smoothice> L S
01:06 <smoothice> ls
01:06 <@armabot> nsh22: timed out
01:06 <@armabot> smoothice: ARabidSquirrel seems to be on -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) right now.
01:06 <nsh22> i banned quantum (not the squirrl) for 600  mins
01:06 <smoothice> From where?
01:07 <nsh22> either mine or df
01:07 <smoothice> FRICK
01:07 <nsh22> i forget
01:07 <Maverik> bet time anyways, later
01:07 <nsh22> what?
01:07 <smoothice> If it was mine then I'm fricked up
01:07 <nsh22> how so?
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01:07 <nsh22> i thin it was df
01:07 <nsh22> ill check
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01:50 <nsh22> #m smoothice please change your leaving message, it make you look like a hick
01:51 <@armabot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
01:51 <luke-jr> ROFL
01:51 <nsh22> #m smoothice lol
01:51 <@armabot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
01:52 <nsh22> luke-jr:  does installing a new os (ie ubuntu) delete any files on say an external harddrive (if im installing it on that drive)
01:52 <luke-jr> nsh22: of course
01:52 <nsh22> ok
01:52 <nsh22> but it wouldnt touch any other file on the comp on other dirves?
01:53 <luke-jr> it could
01:53 <nsh22> o-o
01:53 <nsh22> how?
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02:24 <luke-jr> nsh22: "oops"
02:25 <nsh22> luke-jr: ...
02:25 <nsh22> :P
02:25 <luke-jr> accidents are always possible
02:25 <luke-jr> but that's why everyone keeps backups of everything important
02:25 <nsh22> but couldnt it delete the backups then?
02:26 <luke-jr> backups are of course not on the same computer
02:26 <nsh22> i c
02:26 <luke-jr> or at least not on the same HD, such that you can unplug the HD
02:27 <nsh22> if i unplug the hd, then how do i install ubuntu, my os is on my hd i think
02:31 <luke-jr> Ubuntu is your OS
02:32 <luke-jr> if you are installing it
02:33 <nsh22> ok... so the computer would stil install it under the external drive even if the internal is unplugged?
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02:46 <luke-jr> nsh22: should
02:46 <nsh22> ok ill try tat laterz
02:46 <nsh22> btw..
02:46 <luke-jr> be sure you turn the PC off before removing power from the drive tho
02:46 <luke-jr> (or plugging it back in)
02:47 <luke-jr> I'd unplug it from the wall too
02:47 <nsh22> luke-jr: what is the quckest way to move 10gb of random files and programs?
02:47 <luke-jr> but I can be paranoid sometimes
02:47 <nsh22> ok ty
02:47 <luke-jr> mv?
02:47 <nsh22> mv?
02:47 <luke-jr> could always drag and drop too I suppose
02:47 <nsh22> what is mv?
02:47 <luke-jr> #wtf mv
02:47 <nsh22> drag and drop takes over 120 mins
02:48 <luke-jr> rofl
02:48 <nsh22> but the estimator whent from anywhere from 30-130 mins
02:48 <nsh22> jumped around
02:48 <luke-jr> ok, so use cli
02:48 <nsh22> cli?
02:48 <luke-jr> I think the Windows command is 'move'
02:48 <luke-jr> but I could be wrong!
02:48 <nsh22> what if i put it in a zip?
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02:48 <luke-jr> that would be utterly slow
02:48 <luke-jr> sinewav: hi
02:48 <nsh22> ok
02:48 <nsh22> hey sine
02:48 <sinewav> hi hi
02:49 <luke-jr> nsh22: open a cmd prompt and move it
02:50 <nsh22> its from my external harddrive to a folder on my internal
02:50 <nsh22> will cmd prompt still work?
02:50 <luke-jr> why not?
02:50 <nsh22> i dunno
02:51 <nsh22> im not that good with cmd prompt stuff
02:51 <luke-jr> btw
02:51 <luke-jr> I hope you mean Kubuntu
02:52 <nsh22> Ubuntu
02:52 <luke-jr> ew
02:52 <nsh22> ubuntu 7.04 (or at least thats what the disk says
02:53 <luke-jr> ew + ancient <.<
02:53 <nsh22> i can upgrade it after i install it right?
02:53 <luke-jr> upgrade is a reinstall
02:53 <nsh22> fck
02:53 <luke-jr> 7.04 was only supported until October 2007
02:53 <nsh22> fiking comp science teacher and his out of date disks
02:54 <nsh22> he has hundreds of these
02:54 <luke-jr> ROFL
02:54 <nsh22> and ready to java program disks
02:54 <luke-jr> Ubuntu 8.04 should be supported until April 2011
02:54 <nsh22> ...
02:54 <luke-jr> (April 2013 for server edition)
02:55 <nsh22> how would i install it if my internal is unplugged?
02:55 <nsh22> if i dnt have the disk
02:55 <luke-jr> Ubuntu 8.10 is out also, but only supported until 2010
02:55 <luke-jr> you burn a disk, obviously
02:55 <nsh22> like just a normal cdr?
02:55 <luke-jr> yeah
02:56 <nsh22> k
02:56 <nsh22> ill do it later if i have time
02:56 <luke-jr> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
02:56 <luke-jr> but Kubuntu is far better
02:56 <luke-jr> http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download
02:58 <nsh22> why, cuz it has a k?
02:58 <nsh22> XD
02:58 <luke-jr> yeah]
02:58 <luke-jr> K > G
03:17 <nsh22> whew, finnally done that stupid project...
03:21 <nsh22> #night
03:21 <@armabot> Good night nsh22!
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04:13 <Pathetique> ffs
04:14 <Pathetique> Would anyone be so kind as to tell me where I can find this "zones.txt" that is supposedly hidden somewhere on the forum?
04:15 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-newspam] r1089 doc || [0.2.8-armagetronad-newspam] r1088 const correct || [0.2.8-armagetronad-newspam] r1087 Added help strings and default settings... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-newspam] r1086 ifdef DEBUG || [0.2.8-armagetronad-newspam] r1085 Reduced number of saved entries, and adjusted a prefix multi... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-newspam] r1084 raising required prefix spam score, and reducing length mult
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04:35 <Pathetique> anyone? o.0
04:36 <ct|kyle> oi Pathetique
04:36 <Pathetique> Finally! There is life out there after all!
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04:38 <Pathetique> -.-
04:38 <luke-jr> …
04:38 <luke-jr> err, we have a new 0.2.8 branch? -.-
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04:38  * luke-jr foresees a
04:38 <Pathetique> luke-jr, have you any clue in your seemingly infinite wisdom as to where I can obtain this elusive zones.txt?
04:39  * Pathetique foresees a
04:39 <luke-jr> Pathetique: never heard of it
04:40 <Pathetique> its in the zones v2 wiki page.
04:40 <luke-jr> link
04:40 <ct|kyle> #aawiki zones v2
04:40 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Search took 0.48 seconds: Zones v2 - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Zones_v2>; Talk: Zones v2 - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Talk:Zones_v2>; Development Docs - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Development_Docs>
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04:40 <cpayan> say is there any idea when 0.3 will come out?
04:40 <Pathetique> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Zones_v2#Target
04:40 <luke-jr> hi dlh
04:40 <cpayan> or is that "in the future"
04:40 <Pathetique> That's the link.
04:40 <luke-jr> cpayan: "0.3" is not a release
04:40 <dlh> hi
04:40 <cpayan> it's...
04:40 <luke-jr> 0.3 is a series
04:41 <cpayan> well
04:41 <luke-jr> 0.3.0 is a release, already out
04:41 <cpayan> 0.3.1
04:41 <luke-jr> 0.3.1 is the next 0.3 release, and in progress with no ETA
04:41 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma is in charge of 0.3.1
04:41 <luke-jr> and needs a job
04:41 <Pathetique> LOL
04:41 <luke-jr> would you like to hire him? ☺
04:41 <cpayan> would he like to hire me?
04:42 <luke-jr> maybe if you pay him enough to hire you
04:42 <mkzelda> #w 27545
04:42 <@armabot> mkzelda: Search took 0.37 seconds: Nowy Dwór Mazowiecki County - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nowy_Dw%C3%B3r_Mazowiecki_County>; Masovian Voivodeship - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masovian_Voivodeship>; List of counties in Nevada - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: (3 more messages)
04:42 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: what's a site firefox messes up badly
04:42 <mkzelda> #weather 27545
04:42 <@armabot> mkzelda: The current temperature in Hedingham, Raleigh, North Carolina is 22.3°F (10:42 PM EST on March 03, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 14.0°F. Windchill: 23.0°F. Pressure: 29.53 in 999.9 hPa (Rising).
04:42 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: Gambas' site IIRC
04:42 <Pathetique> luke-jr: you see where it says "Much more are detailed..."
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04:44 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: that must be fixed in their  latest preAlpha
04:44 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: could be
04:44 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: it's not white on bright-blue?
04:45 <luke-jr> or rather
04:45 <luke-jr> GAMBAS changed their site
04:45 <luke-jr> :<
04:45 <Pathetique> ><
04:45 <ct|kyle> lol
04:45 <luke-jr> Pathetique: Google says said file does not exist
04:45 <Pathetique> hmm.
04:47 <luke-jr> Pathetique: please feel free to revamp the wiki
04:48 <luke-jr> Pathetique: ph is long gone, so ask me any questions you need answered
04:48 <luke-jr> I'm far from an expert, but I suspect I now know Zv2 better than anyone still alive
04:48  * luke-jr glares at Pathetique
04:48 <Pathetique> So, does the teleport function work yet?
04:48 <luke-jr> that is not a license to PM me -.-
04:48 <luke-jr> teleport function? ☺
04:49 <Pathetique> yes
04:49 <Pathetique> a teleport zone
04:49 <luke-jr> I don't think anything like that exists
04:49 <Pathetique> that is talked about
04:49 <Pathetique> it says "planned"
04:49 <Pathetique> next to it
04:49 <luke-jr> maybe the respawn effect can be abused, not sure
04:49 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: any other sites?
04:49 <luke-jr> Pathetique: ok, then consider it planned
04:49 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: dunno, google
04:49 <Pathetique> I know one of the crazy tron folk had made a hackaround for it
04:49 <Pathetique> Using scripting
04:49 <luke-jr> …
04:49 <Pathetique> that when certain players died in some place
04:49 <Pathetique> they were respawned somewhar else
04:50 <luke-jr> >_<
04:50 <Pathetique> ok, so, that's out of the question then.
04:50 <luke-jr> for now
04:50 <Pathetique> indeed
04:50 <luke-jr> it's on my goal list, but for borders
04:50 <luke-jr> I should be able to make the borders share stuff with zones tho
04:50 <Pathetique> Do acceleration zones work?
04:50 <Pathetique> I know rubber-eating ones do
04:50 <luke-jr> I think so
04:50 <Pathetique> :D
04:51 <Pathetique> Saweet
04:51 <luke-jr> there are no rubber-eating ones right now
04:51 <luke-jr> that comes when someone ports CT to trunk
04:51 <ct|kyle> it seams to me like the rendering it a lot different now in firefox
04:51 <Pathetique> *points to some racing server*
04:51 <luke-jr> Pathetique: that's not running mainline
04:51 <Pathetique> oic
04:51 <luke-jr> nor trunk I expect
04:51 <Pathetique> Its hoops server
04:51 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: are you a CT dev?
04:51 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: me and voodoo will probaboly start that porting soon
04:51 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: before or after sty is done?
04:52 <Pathetique> It would be really 1337 if we had acceleration zones
04:52 <Pathetique> I shall have to try it.
04:52 <ct|kyle> we will start before sty is done then add in sty and finish it up
04:52 <luke-jr> cool
04:54 <luke-jr> ]later tell *z*man* Any reason we couldn't use a stacked branch to make the migration to Bazaar in such a way that pre-Bzr history actually goes to the Subversion server every time?
04:54 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
04:55 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: I suggest the CT team merge and join the main devteam working on trunk ☺
04:56 <ct|kyle> I think the first thing is to merge sty+ct into trunk then go from there
04:56 <luke-jr> yeah
04:56 <luke-jr> but I mean in the future, focus efforts on merges to trunk
04:57 <luke-jr> instead of forking again
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04:58 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: ya, probaboly
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05:18 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-newspam] r1090 fixed CommonPrefix...
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05:32 <smoothice> luke-jr: you're telling people not to fork 0.2.8 again?
05:33 <luke-jr> smoothice: no, in this case it was not to fork trunk
05:34 <smoothice> ?
05:34 <smoothice> nevermind
05:34  * smoothice would continue working on sty if luke-jr could mentor me to get a flag zone working
05:35 <smoothice> and then ct|kyle would be happy
05:35 <luke-jr> I have the time
05:35 <smoothice> now?
05:36 <luke-jr> yes
05:36 <smoothice> I have to go relatively soon... but I was wondering if you could look into my code and see if you see anything causing trouble. Then you could commit a fix
05:36 <smoothice> since we're on the same team
05:36 <luke-jr> perhaps
05:37 <smoothice> to be honest with you, I'm totally stuck right now and I feel kinda dumb that I cannot figure out why the zone doesn't show
05:38 <luke-jr> that's the hardest thing to debug :<
05:38 <smoothice> a zones v1 "flag" zone
05:38 <smoothice> :(
05:39 <luke-jr> …
05:39 <luke-jr> wtf?
05:39 <smoothice> ?
05:40 <smoothice> huh?
05:41 <smoothice> luke-jr: ?
05:42 <luke-jr> what u talking about v1 for?
05:42 <smoothice> well you said to test the flag zone I could use a v1 map, which I already had made
05:42 <smoothice> like fort
05:43 <luke-jr> good idea, tell me a good v1 flag map
05:43 <smoothice> ctfsty-0.0.2
05:43 <ct|kyle> wait
05:43 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: what's a standard CTF map?
05:43 <smoothice> -.-
05:43 <smoothice> ctfsty-0.0.2
05:44 <luke-jr> that isn't a valid filepath
05:44 <ct|kyle> it is in your_mom/clever/
05:44 <smoothice> Your_mom/clever/ctfsty-0.0.2.aamap.xml
05:45 <ct|kyle> why is it not on the repository agin
05:45 <smoothice> I don't know
05:45 <luke-jr> Your_mom didn't upload it?
05:46 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/kyle/ctf/ctf_spork-0.0.1.aamap.xml
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05:46 <ct|kyle> use that one
05:46 <luke-jr> y
05:46 <ct|kyle> I think the Your_mom/clever/ctfsty-0.0.2.aamap.xml uses base zone
05:46 <ct|kyle> and mine uses fortress instead
05:46 <smoothice> base zone?
05:46 <luke-jr> base zone?
05:46 <smoothice> ????
05:47 <ct|kyle> so that could be smoothice's problem, it does not know hot to handle zone type of base
05:47 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: yours has everything commented out
05:47 <ct|kyle> how*
05:47 <smoothice> It's uses fortress
05:47 <smoothice> ctfsty-0.0.2
05:47 <ct|kyle> uncomment it serverside
05:48 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: no -.-
05:48 <luke-jr> that is bad
05:48 <ct|kyle> or uncomment it on there
05:48 <ct|kyle> :P
05:48 <luke-jr> that is illegal
05:48 <luke-jr> make a proper version
05:48 <luke-jr> -.-
05:48 <smoothice> why not just test with ctfsty-0.0.2.aamap.xml
05:48 <luke-jr> smoothice: mayeb I WILL
05:48 <smoothice> Your_mom/clever/ctfsty-0.0.2.aamap.xml
05:49 <ct|kyle> yes but that has no zones in the repository
05:49 <smoothice> ctfsty-0.0.2 isn't even in the repository
05:50 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: yours has no zones in the repository
05:50 <ct|kyle> at least they are three to uncomment serverside
05:51 <luke-jr> that is broken
05:51 <smoothice> guys this isn't that complicated
05:51 <smoothice> ctfsty-0.0.2.aamap.xml
05:56 <luke-jr> smoothice: your code doesn't even compile
05:56 <smoothice> ?
05:56 <smoothice> errors?
05:57 <luke-jr> ../../src/tron/zone/zFlag.cpp: In member function 'virtual bool zFlagZone::Timestep(float)':
05:57 <luke-jr> ../../src/tron/zone/zFlag.cpp:197: warning: control reaches end of non-void function
05:57 <smoothice> hmm
05:57 <smoothice> :(
05:57 <smoothice> what's the error in the Timestep?
05:58 <luke-jr> you're not returning
05:58 <smoothice> can you fix it ?
05:58 <luke-jr> yes
06:00 <smoothice> ok thanks
06:00 <luke-jr> [0] The map Your_mom/clever/ctfsty-0.0.2.aamap.xml could not be loaded or parsed; please check your configuration and the log.
06:02 <smoothice> map_file Your_mom/clever/ctfsty-0.0.2.aamap.xml(http://smootharma.ath.cx/resource/Your_mom/clever/ctfsty-0.0.2.aamap.xml)
06:03 <luke-jr> SSOAN/CTF/ctfsty-0.0.3.aamap.xml
06:03 <smoothice> k
06:03 <smoothice> it works?
06:04 <luke-jr> nope
06:05 <smoothice> no zones show up?
06:05 <luke-jr> crash
06:05 <luke-jr> because you didn't make it a module like I told you to
06:15 <luke-jr> -.-
06:15 <luke-jr> smoothice: zFlag.cpp contains a crash guarantee
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06:22 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r872 make flags a module || [armagetronad-v2sty] r871 return false in Timestep
06:22 <luke-jr> wtf is Unnamed-20821A8
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06:44 <SoBeiT> hey!!!
06:44 <SoBeiT> long time no seeee
06:45 <luke-jr> yarly
06:45 <luke-jr> so come by more often!
06:45 <SoBeiT> luke!
06:45 <SoBeiT> hai!
06:45 <SoBeiT> =D
06:45 <luke-jr> O.o
06:45 <SoBeiT> #seen kyle
06:45 <@armabot> SoBeiT: I have not seen kyle.
06:45 <SoBeiT> #seen ct|kyle
06:45 <@armabot> SoBeiT: ct|kyle was last seen in #armagetron 55 minutes and 18 seconds ago: <ct|kyle> at least they are three to uncomment serverside
06:46 <SoBeiT> luke, do u know if zombies, instead of killing someone, can take away their rubber?
06:46 <luke-jr> no idea, zombies aren't really part of Armagetron yet
06:46 <SoBeiT> they are awesome
06:46 <SoBeiT> i introduced them to sumo and its going great
06:47 <SoBeiT> #si zombie
06:47 <@armabot> SoBeiT: Armagetron Classic »Zombie Sumo«: Players (7/10): -=}ID< zac, Beelzebub, BOOM SHIKA!!!, MWDoc=-, owllwo, preSsure, regiT
06:47 <SoBeiT> wanna go play luke?
06:47 <luke-jr> bi
06:47 <luke-jr> no*
06:47 <SoBeiT> aww ok
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06:52 <GodTodd> luke-jr's bi?  that explains a lot
06:52 <ct|kyle> #am SoBeiT possible, but yet another hack
06:52 <ct|kyle> #m SoBeiT possible, but yet another hack
06:52 <@armabot> ct|kyle: The operation succeeded.
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07:08 <Pathetique> LOL Todd.
07:10 <Pathetique> Hmm.
07:11 <Pathetique> He realizes that he didn't accomplish anything crazy1337 like he think he did
07:11 <Pathetique> by "introducing" zombies to sumo?
07:12 <Pathetique> A braindead monkey could frak the keyboard and have that be the result.
07:26 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r873 misc fixes
07:26 <BabyBug> luke-jr, Unnamed-20821A8 is emphasis
07:29 <luke-jr> wtf is that
07:31 <BabyBug> ...
07:31  * BabyBug kicks luke-jr off a cliff
07:37 <Pathetique> gn all
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08:36 <Lucifer_arma> hey kids rock and roll, rock on (oooo my soul)
08:36 <BabyBug> :|
08:36 <BabyBug> been drinking again Lucifer_arma?
08:36 <Lucifer_arma> no
08:37 <BabyBug> sure? ^o)
08:37 <Lucifer_arma> well, I managed to get pretty wasted last saturday, or did I mention that already?
08:37 -!- Lucifer_arma is now known as Lucifer
08:37 <BabyBug> aye mentioned that one
08:38 <Lucifer> ah, that's how you can tell I don't drink much
08:38 <Lucifer> I keep talking about the last time I drank, and it's the same thing I've been saying for awhile, heh
08:42 <BabyBug> >.<...
08:43 <Lucifer> well, if it's not what you know, but who you know, then I made a biiiiig mistake marrying that psycho
08:43 <BabyBug> eh? that was random...
08:44 <Lucifer> not totally
08:44 <Lucifer> it's about finding a job
08:45 <BabyBug> oh, still not job yet? =\
08:45 <Lucifer> above a certain level of professionalism in a job, most job openings are filled by friends
08:45 <BabyBug> no*
08:45 <Lucifer> no, still no job
08:45 <BabyBug> hrmph! =(
08:45 <Lucifer> but my ex used to get very jealous about any friendship I tried to establish, even professional friendships
08:45 <Lucifer> which means, of course, that right now, I'm having a hard time because of it
08:45 <Lucifer> not completely because of that, but that's a contributing factor
08:46 <BabyBug> ooo ok, not so random then ^^
08:46 <Lucifer> I'm not having trouble making new friends, the problem is that most of the people I'm getting to know now just haven't known me long enough to recommend me for a job
08:46 <Lucifer> hell, she used to interrogate me every time I said something like "todd and I were talking the other day and..."
08:47 <Lucifer> anyway, I'm sure that in my new network of friends, something will turn up if I can hang in there long enough
08:47 <Lucifer> problem is determining what length of time is represented by the phrase "long enough"
08:47 <BabyBug> or win the lottery! =D
08:47 <Lucifer> heh
08:47 <Lucifer> I'm too cheap to even play the lottery
08:47 <BabyBug> =(
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10:03 <BabyBug> that's him luke-jr!!
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13:16 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9112 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (5 files in 5 dirs): Manuel Moos: Added LAG_FREQUENCY_THRESHOLD to better deal with lag clusterbombs.
13:24 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9113 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. language/deutsch.txt language/english_base.txt): Manuel Moos: Updated translation and clarified original.
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13:26 <BabyBug> more translations \o/
13:36 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1089 Updated translation and clarified original.... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1088 Added LAG_FREQUENCY_THRESHOLD to better deal with lag cluste...
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14:38 <PinkTomato> #ping
14:38 <@armabot> pong
14:38 <PinkTomato> ]ping
14:38 <ljrbot> pong
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14:55 <dlhbot> pong
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15:01 <PinkTomato> hehe ^_^
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15:03 <Pathetique> \o all
15:06 <Pathetique> #alias list
15:06 <Pathetique> #ping
15:06 <@armabot> pong
15:07 <BabyBug> #fingers
15:07  * armabot orgasms
15:07 <BabyBug> (A)
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15:08 <Lizmatic> WHAT
15:08  * Lizmatic looks around the room
15:09 <Pathetique> LOL
15:09 <Pathetique> Hi liz!
15:09 <Lizmatic> hii
15:09  * BabyBug tickles her baby! <333333
15:10  * Lizmatic slaps BabyBug
15:10 <Lizmatic> don't cheat on me bitch
15:10 <BabyBug> I didn't!
15:10 <Lizmatic> with armabot :(
15:10 <BabyBug> =x
15:10  * Lizmatic makes sad fae
15:10 <Lizmatic> face*
15:10 <BabyBug> nuuu not that face =(
15:12 <Pathetique> #whofarted
15:12 <@armabot> dlh farted!
15:12 <Pathetique> LOL
15:12 <Pathetique> lawl?
15:14 <Pathetique> How you doin, Liz?
15:15  * z-man fights the overwhelming urge to do manly man things for contrast
15:15 <Pathetique> lol
15:15 <Pathetique> #where
15:15 <@armabot> The biggest noob, Pathetique, is right here!
15:15 <Pathetique> yaey
15:15 <Pathetique> lol
15:15 <Pathetique> #whofarted
15:15 <@armabot> Pathetique farted!
15:15 <Pathetique> did not
15:15 <Pathetique> !
15:15 <BabyBug> z-man, you say that as if you have the capability to do manly man things =)
15:16 <Pathetique> *oooooooooh*
15:16 <Pathetique> _lololol_
15:16 <Lizmatic> I'm fine path, you?
15:16 <z-man> Down a sixpack of beer and belch like satan? sure can do.
15:16 <Pathetique> lol!
15:16  * Lizmatic uses her sad face to convert Pathetique to loving women
15:16 <BabyBug> z-man, that doesn't make you a man! that makes you a drunk!...oh wait..same thing =\
15:17 <Pathetique> I'm doing fantastic.  I'm tron leader of .dBd| along with Sonic
15:17 <Pathetique> LOL@BabyBu
15:17 <Pathetique> g
15:17 <Lizmatic> Um.. you are?
15:17 <Pathetique> neh, no worky.
15:17 <Lizmatic> What happened to nano and TT :(
15:17 <Lizmatic> I MISS TT
15:17 <Pathetique> Mhm. :)
15:17 <Lizmatic> TT's gf ate him didn't she
15:17 <Lizmatic> O_O
15:17 <Pathetique> He hasn't risen from between his girlfriend's thighs in a long time.
15:18 <Pathetique> He came on tron a while back in CTF
15:18 <Pathetique> we had a dbd reunion
15:18 <Pathetique> 'twas fun.
15:18 <Lizmatic> and I wasn't invited
15:18 <Lizmatic> great :<
15:18  * Pathetique is sorry
15:18 <z-man> #m luke-jr stacked branches are just an optimization, they don't help if bzr considers the branches diverged. As is the case with our current trunk and any restarted trunk with full history, no way around it.
15:18 <@armabot> z-man: The operation succeeded.
15:18 <Lizmatic> Didn't you eh join that clan zoid made
15:18 <Lizmatic> the republik? lol
15:19 <Pathetique> Nope
15:19 <Pathetique> Pala did, but I didn't.
15:19 <Pathetique> I've stuck with dBd.
15:19 <Pathetique> :)
15:19 <Lizmatic> Tron sucks now.. old days were fun
15:19 <Pathetique> Tron will get better.
15:19 <Pathetique> :)
15:20 <Lizmatic> no :( not oldschool anymore
15:20  * Lizmatic likes playing WoW more anyway
15:20  * Lizmatic glares at BB
15:20 <BabyBug> WoW is the game of satanists!
15:20 <Lizmatic> YOU PLAYED IT TILL LVL 40+
15:21 <BabyBug> AND?!?
15:21 <Lizmatic> that means you liked it! hahahah!
15:21 <BabyBug> No. It means i can't say no to you when you asked me to start! 8-)
15:21 <Lizmatic> I didn't force you to continue playing :|
15:22 <Lizmatic> I didn't force you to buy a 60 days gamecard :|
15:22 <BabyBug> You did!
15:22 <Lizmatic> DID NOT
15:22 <BabyBug> DID! :@
15:22 <Pathetique> lmao
15:22  * Lizmatic fists BB
15:22 <Pathetique> :o
15:22 <BabyBug> NO! No fisting whore
15:22 <BabyBug> 2 fingers max! :@
15:22 <Pathetique> LMAO
15:23 <Lizmatic> that's not what you said last night
15:23 <BabyBug> Yes it was! You can't even remember last night... >.<
15:23 <Lizmatic> :x
15:23 <BabyBug> drunken skank xD
15:23 <Lizmatic> O!
15:23 <Lizmatic> old woman
15:23 <Lizmatic> ..
15:23 <BabyBug> !!
15:24 <Lizmatic> something  tells me I shouldn't of said that
15:24 <Pathetique> #quote add "WoW is the game of satanists! -- BabyBug"
15:24 <@armabot> Pathetique: The operation succeeded.  Quote #90 added.
15:24 <BabyBug> you biatch...
15:24 <Pathetique> #quote 90
15:24 <@armabot> Pathetique: There is nothing that can be in our way, for this is Jekub, that Laughs at Barriers, and says brrm-brrm." -- From the Book Of Nome, Jekub, Chap. 3, v. V (Terry Pratchett, Diggers)
15:24  * Lizmatic kisses BB all over
15:24 <Pathetique> ffs
15:24 <Lizmatic> see, armabot agrees with me
15:24 <BabyBug> psssht go away Lisa...I'm not old! :@
15:24 <Lizmatic> WoW is teh pwn
15:24 <Lizmatic> yes you are BB, you're a MILF
15:25 <Lizmatic> :D
15:25 <Pathetique> #quote get 90
15:25 <@armabot> Pathetique: Quote #90: "WoW is the game of satanists! -- BabyBug" (added by Pathetique at 03:24 PM, March 04, 2009)
15:25 <Pathetique> lololol
15:25  * Lizmatic does not agree
15:25  * BabyBug glares at Lisa
15:25  * Pathetique feels 1337 cause he added and retrieved a quote from Armabot
15:25 <BabyBug> hrmm
15:25 <BabyBug> #quote get 83
15:25 <@armabot> BabyBug: Quote #83: "<Lizmatic> wtfzomg ady-lucifer and lucifer aren't the same guys?! !!!?!"" (added by Lucifer_arma at 10:57 PM, December 16, 2008)
15:26 <BabyBug> #quote get 84
15:26 <@armabot> BabyBug: Quote #84: "<cusco> #quote search *cusco*  <armabot> cusco: No matching quotes were found." (added by Lucifer_arma at 11:54 PM, December 19, 2008)
15:26 <BabyBug> aww can't remember the number
15:26 <Pathetique> #quote get 69
15:26 <@armabot> Pathetique: Quote #69: "gentoo ebuild is as broken as luke-jr himself :D ~xfroggy" (added by ct|kyle at 06:23 PM, January 26, 2008)
15:26 <PinkTomato> #quote search WoW
15:26 <@armabot> PinkTomato: 2 found: #51: "<DrJoeTron> speaking of microsoft, i decided to..." and #90: "WoW is the game of satanists! -- BabyBug"
15:26 <Pathetique> #quote get 51
15:26 <@armabot> Pathetique: Quote #51: "<DrJoeTron> speaking of microsoft, i decided to actually give the zune the time of day and looked at what the hell it really does, and wow, way to take something with alot of potential and just destroy it microsoft <Lucifer_arma> that's what they've always done ... take electric potential and turn it into waste" (added by epsy at 10:40 PM, July 13, 2007)
15:27 <Pathetique> #quote search luke-jr
15:27 <@armabot> Pathetique: 16 found: #20: "ok luci, you'd know better on this one -- luke-jr", #21: "<Luke-Jr_work__> btw, pedophile is good", #23: "<spidey> you wanna fuck Luke-Jr ?", #26: "<Lucifer_arma> I want fundamentalism just so I...", #45: "better an idiot that can admit it than a luke-...", #59: "-Kick- You have been kicked from channel...", #60: "<luke-jr> fanatics are good", #63: "GodTodd: definition (2 more messages)
15:27 <Pathetique> more
15:27 <Pathetique> #more
15:27 <@armabot> Pathetique: of great : agrees with...", #64: "[14:14] <luke-jr> and needless to say, don't...", #68: "[12:54] <luke-jr> …. ok, you win", #69: "gentoo ebuild is as broken as luke-jr himself...", #70: "(20:09:38) luke-jr: StickyNoob: what does that...", #73: "<Lucifer> if you don't want to nitpick, don't...", #80: "<luke-jr> Intel GPU pwns <luke-jr> CPU sucks", #81: "GodTodd: that lightning is (1 more message)
15:27 <Pathetique> #more
15:27 <@armabot> Pathetique: just God aiming for...", and #86: "<luke-jr> I'm still grasping at corks to plug..."
15:27 <Pathetique> quote get 81
15:27 <Lizmatic> Stop that
15:27 <Pathetique> oic
15:27 <Pathetique> #quote get 81
15:28 <BabyBug> don't listen to the bitch
15:28 <@armabot> Pathetique: Quote #81: "GodTodd: that lightning is just God aiming for luke-jr and missing" (added by ct|kyle at 07:50 AM, August 05, 2008)
15:28 <Pathetique> LOL
15:28 <Lizmatic> What's that granny? xD
15:28 <BabyBug> :O!!!!!!
15:28 <Lizmatic> OO BURN!
15:28 <StickyNoob> #quote get 70
15:28 <@armabot> StickyNoob: Quote #70: "(20:09:38) luke-jr: StickyNoob: what does that have to do with your dick?" (added by K-Yo at 08:15 PM, February 20, 2008)
15:28 <Pathetique> #quote search peanut
15:28 <@armabot> Pathetique: No matching quotes were found.
15:28 <BabyBug> just cause i won't let you sleep with me Lizmatic! :@
15:28 <Pathetique> meh
15:29 <PinkTomato> #quote search Pathetique
15:29 <Pathetique> I tire of the quotes thing
15:29 <Pathetique> lolol
15:29 <@armabot> PinkTomato: 1 found: #74: "Pathetique: I find it funny how ivantis can..."
15:29 <PinkTomato> #quote get 74
15:29 <Pathetique> #quote get 74
15:29 <@armabot> PinkTomato: Quote #74: "Pathetique: I find it funny how ivantis can write C++ but has no clue how to actually write it." (added by ct|kyle at 09:07 PM, July 28, 2008)
15:29 <Pathetique> LOL
15:29 <@armabot> Pathetique: Quote #74: "Pathetique: I find it funny how ivantis can write C++ but has no clue how to actually write it." (added by ct|kyle at 09:07 PM, July 28, 2008)
15:29 <PinkTomato> LOL ^_^
15:29 <PinkTomato> #quote search PinkTomato
15:29 <Pathetique> tis true, too.
15:29 <@armabot> PinkTomato: No matching quotes were found.
15:29 <Lizmatic> I always confuse PinkTomato and Pathetique as the same person, now I know why..
15:29 <Pathetique> Porque?
15:29 <Pathetique> Oh, the LOLs at simple stuff
15:30 <Lizmatic> Que?
15:30 <Pathetique> right?
15:30 <Lizmatic> Si
15:30 <Pathetique> :D
15:30 <PinkTomato> hehe :)
15:30  * Lizmatic pinches BB's nipples
15:30 <Pathetique> ohmy!
15:30  * BabyBug gets the nipple and clit clamps :@
15:31 <Lizmatic> ...........
15:31 <Pathetique> o_o
15:31 <Pathetique> scissor sisters!
15:31 <BabyBug> i'll drag you around with that chain bitch..
15:31 <PinkTomato> eek
15:32 <Lizmatic> Isn't it time for your elderly afternoon nap BB?!?!?!
15:33 <BabyBug> skank..
15:33 <Pathetique> #king
15:33 <@armabot> kong
15:33 <Pathetique> :D
15:33 <Pathetique> lolol
15:33 <Lizmatic> you love me
15:33 <BabyBug> no i dont
15:33 <Pathetique> #skank
15:33 <BabyBug> i love your sad face...rest of you is fugly!
15:33 <Pathetique> #alias add skank say skonk
15:33 <@armabot> Pathetique: The operation succeeded.
15:33 <Pathetique> #skank
15:33 <@armabot> skonk
15:33 <Lizmatic> You love me bitch!
15:34 <BabyBug> do not!
15:34 <Lizmatic> :(
15:34 <BabyBug> ok i do =(
15:34 <Lizmatic> LOL!
15:34 <Pathetique> cyburzeckz.
15:34 <PinkTomato> If love were simple.
15:34  * Lizmatic drags BB off into the sunset \o/
15:34 <BabyBug> and you say you're not a romantic..
15:34 <BabyBug> =P
15:34 <Lizmatic> :D
15:35 <BabyBug> Pathetique, not quite...almost though ;) *cough*
15:35 <Pathetique> lawl
15:36 <Lizmatic> How can you ALMOST have cybursecks?xD
15:36 <Pathetique> trudat
15:37 <BabyBug> Perhaps i should paste that one chatlog and ask Pathetique to decide! 8-)
15:37 <Lizmatic> ...
15:37 <Pathetique> neh
15:37 <Lizmatic> NO.
15:37 <BabyBug> xD
15:37 <Pathetique> <-- lost interest, moving back to Map Making
15:37 <Pathetique> LOL
15:37 <Lizmatic> BB he doesn't care, he's gay
15:38 <BabyBug> perfect non biased opinion then! :P
15:38 <BabyBug> (i lost focus, what were we talking about?)
15:38 <Pathetique> (iunno)
15:38 <Lizmatic> something about you being a MIFL
15:39 <Lizmatic> MILF*
15:39 <Pathetique> LOL
15:39 <BabyBug> #kick Lizmatic :@
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15:39 <Pathetique> LOL
15:39 <Pathetique> srsly?
15:39 -!- Lizmatic [n=Lizmatic@78-27-12-206.dsl.alice.nl] has joined #armagetron
15:39 <Pathetique> that's not a cool alias
15:39 <Lizmatic> :x
15:39 <BabyBug> 8-)
15:39 <Pathetique> I think #roulette is better
15:39 <Pathetique> #roulette
15:39 <@armabot> Pathetique: *click*
15:39 <Lizmatic> you kicked me =9
15:39 <Pathetique> your turn BB
15:40 <BabyBug> #roulette
15:40 <@armabot> BabyBug: *click*
15:40 <BabyBug> ^^
15:40 <Pathetique> #roulette
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15:40  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
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15:40 <Pathetique> That fucking hoar.
15:40 <noob13> hehe
15:40 <Pathetique> LOL!
15:40 <noob13> #roulette
15:40 <@armabot> noob13: *click*
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15:41 <Pathetique> who /msged that one?
15:41 <Pathetique> o.o
15:41  * BabyBug dusts off her halo
15:41 <Pathetique> LOL
15:42 <PinkTomato> #r
15:42  * Lizmatic leaves h3arTbr0Ken!
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15:42 <BabyBug> oh darn it
15:43 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1090 Fixed comment typos....
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15:50 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9114 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/tron/gGame.cpp): Manuel Moos: Fixed comment typos.
15:53 <BabyBug> #servers
15:53 <@armabot> BabyBug: This data is 52 seconds old; - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (14/16), Bugfarm Elimination Sumo (11/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (8/14), WILDCAT (6/8), Wild West  =Sumo= (6/14), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (5/12), The YELLOW Submarine (5/12), -=Prutopolis=- -=Dog Fight=- (4/16), Swampland Mud Puddle (4/8), -  [ Nano's Playground | Nano Standard ]  -         . (4/8), [] Cheers! [] The (2 more messages)
15:53 <BabyBug> #si bugfarm
15:53 <@armabot> BabyBug: Bugfarm Elimination Sumo: Players (9/12): -»|boo, -»|þsy, CTxGonZaP, delueks, JaNiS, newly wed!!!!!!, tade, Z-Man, |Tr33|
15:54 <Pathetique> Wow
15:54 <Pathetique> What're people doing in Nano's server? o.0
15:54 <Pathetique> Nobody ever plays there.
15:54 <Pathetique> LOL
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16:05 <SoBeiT> aloha!
16:05 <Pathetique> SoBeiT: you realize you didn't accomplish anything spectacular by "introducing" zombies to sumo
16:05 <Pathetique> right?
16:05 <SoBeiT> Thanks for letting me know =)
16:06 <Pathetique> Your welcome :)
16:06 <Pathetique> Its been tried and done and failed.  Sumo players are picky about their settings.
16:06 <SoBeiT> I think people enjoy it more than regular sumo though
16:06 <Pathetique> Maybe for a select few.
16:06 <SoBeiT> Well, whoever tried it failed =)
16:06 <SoBeiT> Mine's doing fine.  Why the sudden attack?
16:06 <Lucifer> anybody can belch like satan, but only I can fart like satan
16:07 <Pathetique> Not sudden attack.
16:07 <Pathetique> Helpful criticism.
16:07 -!- PinkTomato [n=sam@hn-33-170.brookes.ac.uk] has quit ["Leaving."]
16:07 <Pathetique> Trying to get you off of something that will end up being fairly crusty.
16:07 <SoBeiT> Not very helpful to me, sorry.
16:07 <Lucifer> SoBeiT: it's poorly phrased criticism
16:07 -!- smoothice [n=smoothic@97-122-119-120.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #armagetron
16:07 <Pathetique> indeed
16:07 <SoBeiT> Hi smoothice =)
16:07 <Lucifer> you know, criticism phrased in such a way that it would be taken as an insult
16:08 <smoothice> SoBeiT: hi
16:08 <Lucifer> unlikely to be intended to be insulting, just symptomatic of a severe lack of communication skills
16:08 <Pathetique> <-- tired
16:08 <SoBeiT> It's one person against many that feel like this, nothing I can do to help the sour attitudes of tron =)
16:08 <SoBeiT> Bye Bye =)
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16:08 <Pathetique> rofl
16:08 <Pathetique> lightweight.
16:08 <BabyBug> Lucifer, You're fat! <--- You mean like that?
16:08 <Pathetique> I'm trying to wrap my brain around how Monitors work in Zones v2
16:09 <Lucifer> hey, I don't take such things seriously from a woman who has a 2 finger limit
16:09 <Pathetique> LMAO
16:09 <Pathetique> I don't have much room left for thinking about how to phrase things like that in a nice way.
16:09 <Lucifer> Pathetique: small brain?  sorry
16:09 <BabyBug> hey! any more hurts!
16:09 <smoothice> ^ Fail
16:09 <Lucifer> BabyBug: not if it's done right
16:10 <Lucifer> oh wait, you're really small, aren't you?
16:10 <Lucifer> I might have to take all that back
16:10  * Lucifer thinks about it for a minute
16:10 <Pathetique> idk, AFAIK I have a normal size brain.
16:10 <BabyBug> yes very small :P
16:11 <Lucifer> now, who do I call to see if street performing is legal in downtown austin?
16:12 <BabyBug> erm..local police thingy?
16:12 <BabyBug> what do you have? sherriffs?
16:12 <BabyBug> or...a lawyer?
16:16 <Pathetique> Lucifer: First check if your local town/city's statutes require a licene
16:16 <Pathetique> Then check state statutes.
16:16 <Pathetique> City's ordinances*
16:16 <Pathetique> If you can't find it, call your local city hall
16:16 <Lucifer> that's kinda what I'm working on right now
16:16 <Pathetique> lololol
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16:21 <Lucifer> found a site that says I need a permit
16:21 <Lucifer> now, why can't I get a government site that tells me how to get this permit?
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16:22 <Pathetique> Cause that's how it works in this great country
16:23 <Pathetique> lol
16:23 <Pathetique> #ping luke-jr
16:23 <@armabot> pong
16:23 <Pathetique> luke-jr: ping
16:23 <luke-jr> what
16:23 <Pathetique> YAY!
16:23 <Pathetique> alright
16:23 <Pathetique> ZV2: We have to define conquest rates in monitor influences? Or am I misinterpreting the wiki page
16:26 <luke-jr> Pathetique: if you can reproduce fortress with standards Zones v2, please do it and document
16:26 <luke-jr> standard*
16:26 <luke-jr> for the moment, my solution was a fortress plugin for Zv2
16:26 <luke-jr> via --enable-fortress configure option
16:27 <luke-jr> BTW, happy Pi day
16:27 <Pathetique> What I don't get about the new dtd is that it doesn't seem to like letting the server decide who gets which zone
16:28 <Pathetique> I'm assuming for teams it goes in order of whichever spawnpoint is given first for team blue, then team gold, et cetera...right?
16:28 <luke-jr> no idea how that works :x
16:30 <Pathetique> lolol
16:30 <Pathetique> It would make sense if it were that, right?
16:31 <luke-jr> dunno
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16:33 <luke-jr> HI EPSY
16:33 <Pathetique> #quote get 74
16:33 <@armabot> Pathetique: Quote #74: "Pathetique: I find it funny how ivantis can write C++ but has no clue how to actually write it." (added by ct|kyle at 09:07 PM, July 28, 2008)
16:34 <Pathetique> lawl
16:35 <Pathetique> hmmm.
16:37 <luke-jr> wtf is with people sending me bills on pink paper?
16:38 <luke-jr> and why did I get 5 W2s from the same company this year?
16:40 <Pathetique> the IRS is out to get you!
16:41 <Pathetique> FFS.
16:41 <Pathetique> 98 pages of posts by phillippeqc
16:44 <epsy> HI LUKE-JR
16:46 <luke-jr> ROFL
16:49 <Pathetique> luke-jr: what is this "rotation angle" that is talked about:?
16:57 <dlh> z-man: i pushed a fix for the bug you found on the prefix branch
17:00 <luke-jr> Pathetique: where?
17:01 <Pathetique> its not mentioned in the dtd, its in the wiki page I thought
17:01 <Pathetique> Under ZoneInfluence
17:01 <z-man> dlh: goody
17:01 <dlh> you can now again say poop.
17:03 <Pathetique> FFS
17:03 <Pathetique> This is annoying.  I can't upload zones v2 stuff without getting errors
17:04 <Lucifer> apparently I should just call the police department
17:04 <Pathetique> LOL
17:05 <Pathetique> luke-jr: can we put the dtd files back into the AATeam directory?
17:05 <Pathetique> -.-
17:05 <luke-jr> what?
17:06 <Pathetique> I'm starting to think that the resource uploader doesn't know wtf to make of zv2 maps cause it can't find the dtd for them.
17:06 <luke-jr> yeah, I agree the DTD situation is a mess
17:06 <Pathetique> I'll have to use my own resource for the time being.
17:06 <luke-jr> z-man: is there possibly a scenario for time-based segment count for zones that grow a lot?
17:07 <luke-jr> Pathetique: I think 0.3.1-a.dtd is on the repo
17:07 <Pathetique> ic.
17:07 <Pathetique> I suppose it would help if we had a folder called "dtd" where these things could be housed.
17:07 <Pathetique> I'm assuming since you run the resource browser you would be able to do such a thing?
17:08 <z-man> luke-jr: not really.
17:08 <luke-jr> Pathetique: they're supposed to be in AATeam
17:08 <Pathetique> lolitsempty
17:09 <luke-jr> should have at least one
17:09 <Pathetique> not when I look at it :\
17:11 <Lucifer> this is getting me nowhere fast
17:11 <Pathetique> Calling the police department?
17:11 <z-man> dlh: hmm, it's still possible to get single character prefixes into the list
17:11 <Lucifer> yeah, I got transferred to an automated system and am now on hold
17:12 <Pathetique> one time
17:12 <z-man> I think there should be a minimal length for what is considered a prefix.
17:12 <Pathetique> I was on the phone waiting for support of some kind
17:12 <Pathetique> And I was just sitting there
17:12 <Pathetique> yelling obscenities into the phone
17:12 <Pathetique> while on hold
17:12 <dlh> z-man: what prefix is it?
17:12 <Pathetique> It didn't make them pick up faster, but made it seem like it did.
17:12 <z-man> still 'p' :)
17:12 <Pathetique> Perhaps you should try it :)
17:12 <Lucifer> heh
17:12 <z-man> say pa, pb, pc, pd, pe, and pf gets blocked.
17:15 <Pathetique> luke-jr: http://i44.tinypic.com/2ng5v0j.png <-- I get that when I go to look at the AATeam directory
17:16 <luke-jr> Pathetique: wtf is that?
17:16 <Pathetique> That's a screenshot
17:16 <luke-jr> o i c
17:16 <Pathetique> LOL
17:16 <luke-jr> the resource browser ignores dtds?
17:16 <Pathetique> I guess so.
17:17 <Pathetique> Would that mean that "map-0.3.1-a.dtd" would really be "AATeam/map-0.3.1-a.dtd"?
17:20 <Lucifer> ok, I'm done being on hold
17:20  * Lucifer hung up
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17:26 <noob13> hmm?
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17:30 <Lucifer> well, everything I'm seeing says to just try it
17:30 <Lucifer> worse that can happen is a cop will ask me to move on
17:30 <@armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r9115 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/resource-browser/preview.php:
17:30 <@armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
17:30 <@armabot> armagetronad: support previews on non-maps when available
17:30 <@armabot> armagetronad: show UNKNOWN_ICON if map preview missing
17:30 <@armabot> armagetronad: list dtds
17:32 <@armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r9116 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/resource-browser/preview.php: fix UNKNOWN_ICON use
17:32 <@armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
17:36 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r9117 /support/svnmerge/merge: First update, then log and look for previous merges.
17:38 <@armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r9118 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/resource-browser/preview.php: support for non-XML resources
17:38 <@armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
17:39 <Pathetique> I'm out.  cu all
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17:40 <@armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r9119 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/resource-browser/preview.php: better support for non-XML resources
17:40 <@armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
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17:48 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-newspam] r1091 After a prefix has been found, remove old chat entries that ...
17:50 <@armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r9120 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/resource-browser/preview.php: better support for non-XML resources
17:50 <@armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
17:51 <@armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r9121 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/resource-browser/preview.php: missing paren
17:51 <@armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
17:52 <@armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r9122 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/resource-browser/preview.php: htmlentities on usage string
17:52 <@armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
17:54 <@armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r9123 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/resource-browser/preview.php: strtr has an odd syntax
17:54 <@armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
17:56 <@armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r9124 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/resource-browser/preview.php: clear ambiguity
17:56 <@armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
17:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r9125 /armagetronad/trunk/ (7 files in 5 dirs): (log message trimmed)
17:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 9108 to 9116:
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17:57 <@armabot> armagetronad:  r9113 | bazaarmagetron | 2009-03-04 13:23:52 +0100 (Wed, 04 Mar 2009) | 2 lines
17:59 <@armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r9126 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/resource-browser/preview.php: more PHP weirdness
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18:04 <@armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r9127 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/resource-browser/preview.php: preg to get resource info from filepaths for non-XML resources
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18:07 <@armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r9128 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/resource-browser/preview.php: PHP PCRE is annyoing
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18:11 <joda_bot> luke-jr: beta.armagetronad.net down
18:11 <joda_bot> :D
18:12 <@armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r9129 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/resource-browser/preview.php: fix Other Versions for non-XML
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18:16 <@armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r9130 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/resource-browser/preview.php: sort Other Versions with version_compare
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18:19 <@armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r9131 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/resource-browser/preview.php: find latest version with version_compare instead of mtime (which reflects when the res was added, not made
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18:22 <luke-jr> joda_bot: liar
18:22 <@armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r9132 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/resource-browser/preview.php: dont list (invalid) root-level files
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18:22 <ct|kyle> luke-jr:
18:23 <ct|kyle> #quote get 81
18:23 <joda_bot> luke-jr: not anymore :D
18:23 <luke-jr> joda_bot: never was
18:23 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Quote #81: "GodTodd: that lightning is just God aiming for luke-jr and missing" (added by ct|kyle at 07:50 AM, August 05, 2008)
18:23 <joda_bot> it was :-|
18:23 <luke-jr> read the last half hour
18:23 <luke-jr> I've been USING IT
18:23 <luke-jr> constantly
18:23 <luke-jr> when you said that, I was probably reloading the pag
18:23 <joda_bot> it was not accessible with the browser :-)
18:23 <luke-jr> to test my script change
18:23 <joda_bot> and I could not ping it from two locations
18:24 <luke-jr> so maybe my ISP was down
18:24 <luke-jr> but the server has been workign fine :p
18:24 <joda_bot> rofl
18:24 <joda_bot> luke-jr: thx for fixing it :-)
18:24 <luke-jr> I did nothing
18:26 <PinkTomato> #fetch beta.armagetronad.net
18:26 <luke-jr> nooooooooooo
18:26 <@armabot> PinkTomato: Error: 'beta.armagetronad.net' is not a valid url.
18:26 <luke-jr> lol
18:27 <luke-jr> PinkTomato FAIL
18:27 <PinkTomato> #fetch http://beta.armagetronad.net
18:27 <luke-jr> EPIC PHAIL
18:27 <PinkTomato> It does not work for me :)
18:28 <luke-jr> #insult PinkTomato
18:28 <@armabot> PinkTomato - You are nothing but a thick heap of fermented warts.
18:28 <PinkTomato> thanks :)
18:28 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: fix ur computer
18:28 <PinkTomato> I can't ping.
18:28 <PinkTomato> on this connection
18:28 <luke-jr> 64 bytes from 2002:46bb:1a76:0:2b0:d0ff:fe49:6b31: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.280ms
18:28 <joda_bot> luke-jr: be nice - I love you :-)
18:30 <luke-jr> joda_bot: just for that I'll give u 15% off a VPS plan with me, if you want a VPS!
18:30 <joda_bot> Just be nice to others and I'm happy
18:31 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: did u phix ur pc yet
18:32 <PinkTomato> Connection still fails
18:32 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: traceroute
18:32 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: cannot ping
18:32 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: traceroute
18:34 <PinkTomato> http://pastebin.com/d1e5d815d
18:34 <joda_bot> Trace route to hachi.dashjr.org []
18:34 <joda_bot> ...
18:34 <joda_bot>  10   106 ms   109 ms   107 ms  ash-bb1-link.telia.net []
18:34 <joda_bot>  11   106 ms   114 ms   106 ms  coxcable-ic-128352-ash-bb1.c.telia.net []
18:34 <joda_bot>  12   194 ms   196 ms   189 ms  mtc1dsrj02-xe200.0.rd.om.cox.net []
18:34 <joda_bot>  13   188 ms   191 ms   189 ms  omhssysr01.om.om.cox.net []
18:34 <joda_bot>  14   188 ms   188 ms   187 ms
18:34 <joda_bot>  15   211 ms   212 ms   217 ms  wsip-98-172-136-141.om.om.cox.net []
18:36 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: Dallas can connect, but my PC phails.
18:38 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: sorry, can't produce a useful traceroute due to firewall
18:40 <joda_bot> PinkTomato: what would be the expected result of #fetch aabeta ?
18:41 <joda_bot> luke-jr: why is it bad to attempt #fetch aabeta ?
18:42 <PinkTomato> #fetch google.co.uk
18:43 <@armabot> PinkTomato: Error: 'google.co.uk' is not a valid url.
18:43 <PinkTomato> #fetch http://www.google.co.uk
18:43 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: sounds like your firewall is broken
18:43 <@armabot> PinkTomato: '<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"><title>Google</title><script>window.google={kEI:"172uSdjZFIu60AWltJ3jDw",kEXPI:"17259",kHL:"en"};\nvar _gjwl=location;function _gjuc(){var a=_gjwl.hash;if(a.indexOf("&q=")>0||a.indexOf("#q=")>=0){a=a.substring(1);if(a.indexOf("#")==-1){for(var c=0;c<a.length;){var d=c;if(a.charAt(d)=="&")++d;var (5 more messages)
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18:44 <luke-jr> joda_bot: cuz aabeta's main page is big
18:45 <joda_bot> hm ok
18:45 <PinkTomato> armabot never successfully #fetched it though
18:45 <luke-jr> that was PinkTomato's fault tho ☺
18:46 <PinkTomato> lol :)
18:46 <luke-jr> you never issued the command right
18:47 <joda_bot> #fetch http://www.jedimasters.de
18:47 <@armabot> joda_bot: '<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>\n<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">\n<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">\n<head>\n<title>jedimasters.de</title>\n<style type="text/css">\nbody {\n\tcolor: white;\n\tbackground-color: #333333;\n\tfont-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;\n}\n\n#content (5 more messages)
18:47 <PinkTomato> how was it supposed to be then :)?
18:47 <luke-jr> similar to the last one, but minus the extra space at the front
18:50 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: OK armabot can fetch it
18:50 <luke-jr> -.-
18:53 <PinkTomato> aabeta.dashjr.org works but it is painfully slow. Along with hachi
18:53 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r887 Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 9108 to 9116:...
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18:55 <luke-jr> well, 2 years ago z-man was plannign to take over the hosting..
18:55 <luke-jr> maybe since he seems to have changed his mind, I should move it to a VPS or such
18:55 <z-man> I can still do it, I just didn't get your instructions :)
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18:55 <z-man> Something about hacked php required or somesuch.
18:56 <luke-jr> what instructions? :p
19:04 <joda_bot> luke-jr: I guess that was some indirect request for help :-)
19:04 <luke-jr> o i c
19:05 <luke-jr> z-man: follow the suPHP instructions, but don't follow them to the T
19:05 <luke-jr> <.<
19:05 <luke-jr> that's about all I remember now
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19:11 <epsy> so I take it as tDirectories::GetFiles doesn't work and isn't used anyway?
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19:13 <luke-jr> no idea
19:15 <z-man> If it doesn't work, it isn't used :)
19:16 <epsy> actually, it's stuff it works on that is flawed
19:16 <luke-jr> >_<
19:16 <epsy> don't we have a tString member to sort strings? tDirectories.cpp sets one
19:16 <Lucifer> are talking mimes funny?
19:17 <luke-jr> wtf?
19:17 <luke-jr> MIME types talk?
19:17 <Lucifer> no, not that kind of mime, you damned geek
19:17 <epsy> haha
19:17 <luke-jr> >_<
19:18 <Lucifer> epsy: you're french, maybe you can answer this.  Are talking mimes funny?
19:18 <epsy> they aren't mimes then?
19:20 <Lucifer> you know, do everything a mime normally does, but also talk from time to time
19:21 <epsy> good, using tString::CompareAlphaNumerical doesn't crash :>
19:21 <BabyBug> a mime normally keeps quiet you freaking idiot
19:21 <epsy> that's like, "we're gonna play a tourney, but we will be able to iddqd whenever we want"
19:22 <Lucifer> that's the point!
19:22 <Lucifer> like, do the regular trapped-in-a-box thing, and yell out "help!  I'm trapped in a box!"
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19:25 <Lucifer> or stand like a statue, and when someone comes up to see if you're real or a statue, yell out "I'm a statue!  Just stand back and look at me!"
19:25 <epsy> ok
19:25 <joda_bot1> test
19:26 <joda_bot1> tes
19:26 <joda_bot1> ...
19:27 <Lucifer> http://cecilthetalkingmime.blogspot.com/2009/01/what-hell.html
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19:33 <luke-jr> epsy: http://luke.dashjr.org/tmp/french.ogg
19:33 <cpayan> Lucifer, they'd just be a street performer, not a mime at all
19:33 <epsy> luke-jr, what is it?
19:34 <luke-jr> epsy: if I could type it, i wouldn't have made an ogg
19:34 <epsy> you want me to transscript this?
19:34 <z-man> \o/
19:34 <z-man> Made an AI conquer a zone!
19:34 <luke-jr> epsy: sure
19:34 <epsy> like, the way lack does?
19:34 <luke-jr> z-man: :O
19:35 <z-man> no, more like the way a drunken lemur would do
19:35 <Lucifer> z-man doesn't drive light cycles, he writes code that makes the light cycles move
19:35 <luke-jr> LOL
19:35 <epsy> :D
19:35 <z-man> but at least it made an effort
19:35 <luke-jr> Lucifer: I've thought that would be a fun new game genre a few times
19:35 <luke-jr> especially for Freeciv-style games
19:35 <cpayan> also Lucifer I think that cecil fellow is insane
19:35 <luke-jr> instead of moving units, you write some scripts to play
19:35 <Lucifer> there is a tank game that lets you use any language you want
19:35 <luke-jr> epsy: it's short… the ogg
19:36 <epsy> Monsieur, vous allez manquer l'occasion de vous taire (with a weird accent)
19:36 <cpayan> bzflag?
19:36 <Lucifer> cpayan: yeah, that blog isn't interesting, I'm curious about the idea
19:36 <epsy> Mister, you are missing the occasion to stop talking.
19:36 <Lucifer> no, a tank game where you program the tanks, like robocode only you can use any language
19:36 <epsy> you can drive a guru3 ?
19:36 <cpayan> The only mime I would consider a mime even though they talk is this one fellow I saw who occasionally spoke to remind people to give him money
19:37  * Lucifer considers googling it up
19:37 <Lucifer> well, historically, mimes didn't have to be silent
19:37  * cpayan muses over the idea of the long and rich history of mimes
19:37 <cpayan> is this a wikipedia-led inquiry into mimes?
19:37 <Lucifer> but you don't have to be considered a mime, the question is more about the performance
19:37 <luke-jr> z-man: do you think it would be possible to migrate cycles and walls to use zShapes for visuals? once we have model-based shapes..
19:38 <epsy> @g site:uncyclopedia.org mime
19:38 <teabot> epsy: http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Babel:Ts - Babel:Ts - Uncyclopedia, the content-free encyclopedia
19:38 <cpayan> nothing on mimes?
19:38 <z-man> why would we want that?
19:38 <luke-jr> z-man: so we can implement the CSS stuff once and drive tanks instead of light cycles?
19:39 <z-man> yeah, but zShape has lots of stuff that doesn't apply to cycles.
19:39 <z-man> or walls.
19:39 <ct|kyle> we need to create http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Luke-jr
19:39 <cpayan> or that one fellow that wants to drive an old cadillac?
19:39 <luke-jr> it does?
19:39 <z-man> about the only thing in common is Render().
19:40 <z-man> and the nNetObject inherited stuff, of course.
19:40 <luke-jr> z-man: are you considering the possibility of driving a zombie-zone around? ;)
19:40 <z-man> no, not really.
19:43 <cpayan> I was shocked when I went into a server and there were "bubbles" a rush of multicolor DZs. It was pretty strange.
19:43 <luke-jr> ROFL
19:43 <luke-jr> hmm
19:43 <epsy> ah yeah, I remember having that every ladle I played on ct servers
19:44 <luke-jr> what if when you died, you became a zombie and had to feed on walls to grow
19:44 <epsy> zzzzzzzzz
19:44 <luke-jr> and you shrank if you didn't feed on walls, and eventually collapsed
19:44 <epsy> this is a LIGHTCYCLE game
19:44 <luke-jr> >_<
19:44 <epsy> not DOOM
19:44 <luke-jr> lol
19:44 <cpayan> haha
19:44 <luke-jr> so we can't even have recognizers?
19:45 <cpayan> how about instead of going around in a light cycle, you go around in first person, where you see a gun, and you can use the brake to shoot, and and and
19:45 <epsy> what cpayan said
19:45 <epsy> zombies, why not
19:45 <epsy> driving the zombies, wtf?
19:45 <luke-jr> actually, recognizers could be some kind of AI to replace a timed win/death zone too ;)
19:46 <Lucifer> realtimebattle
19:46 <luke-jr> come in and start trying to stomp cycles
19:46 <cpayan> Like Tank Programs, luke-jr ?
19:46 <luke-jr> cpayan: no, Tank Programs try to shoot cycles
19:46 <cpayan> lol, been a while since I've seen the movie
19:46 <luke-jr> actually, current trunk is *almost* capable of recognizers stomping cycles
19:47 <cpayan> Whatever happened to the king of the hill server?
19:47 <Lucifer> http://realtimebattle.sourceforge.net/
19:47 <luke-jr> the network protocol supports zones that float above the grid and move downward, etc
19:47 <luke-jr> just needs to support model shapes
19:47 <cpayan> Lucifer, that's the programmable tank game?
19:47 <Lucifer> yeah, the one that allows any language
19:48 <Lucifer> it runs your robot as a subprocess, that's how it does it :)
19:48 <cpayan> Even Javascript? :D
19:48 <Lucifer> uses stdin/stdout to communicate to the robot
19:48 <Lucifer> if you have a javascript interpreter that runs from the commandline, then yes
19:48 <Lucifer> that provides stdin/stdout, of course
19:48 <Lucifer> could even use a bash script
19:48 <cpayan> Oh I remember this
19:48 <cpayan> Seen it before
19:48 <epsy> or even python
19:48 <cpayan> I think you showed it to me
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19:52 <Lizmatic> BabyBug is selling selfesteem downers, get em while you can!
19:52 <Lucifer> I probably did, I want to play it sometime with someone
19:52 <Lucifer> but I've never started a robot for it
19:53  * cpayan jumps right on the selfesteem downer
19:53 <cpayan> ahh, never mind, i'm hardly worth buying it anyway
19:54 <BabyBug> Lizmatic, too right you ugly black bitch!
19:54 <Lizmatic> RACISM
19:54 <BabyBug> i'm talking about your hair!! :@
19:55 <Lizmatic> HAIRCISM
20:08 <MrBougo> you forgot SEXISM
20:09 <BabyBug> men suck...they have no right to shout sexism
20:09 <Lizmatic> did I? oh.. BB get back in the kitchen and make me some damn pie you woman
20:09 <epsy> and BELGICISM, too
20:09  * ct|kyle hopes Lizmatic cuts off her hand :P
20:09 <BabyBug> I'll make that pie and smother you with it in the bedroom Lizmatic! <3
20:11  * ct|kyle bets BabyBug does not know how to cook very well
20:11  * Lizmatic slaps ct|kyle
20:11 <BabyBug> fuck you, you cunt..I'm a very good cook!
20:12 <Lizmatic> ct|kyle, she's a bit cranky today so watch out :x
20:13 <ct|kyle> Lizmatic: what did you do??
20:13 <BabyBug> she keeps wanting to fist me! :@
20:14 <Lizmatic> looool
20:14 <luke-jr> ……..
20:14  * luke-jr goes away again
20:14  * Lizmatic raises fist in front of cam
20:15 <BabyBug> oh yeh you remember that now...
20:15 <Lizmatic> you told me
20:15 <Lizmatic> xD
20:15 <BabyBug> drunken skank
20:15 <Lizmatic> haha
20:15 <Lizmatic> ok who's drinking JD again now?
20:15 <BabyBug> i have control unlike you!
20:15 <Lizmatic> chea rite!
20:16 <Lizmatic> but you're my drunken skank<3
20:16 <BabyBug> I am not
20:17 <ct|kyle> you both are
20:18  * Lizmatic kicks ct|kyle in the ballz
20:18 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: you are right it is Lizmatic's fault
20:19 <BabyBug> stop bitching about my woman whore
20:21 <luke-jr> z-man: the protobuf compiling stuff doesn't work still :<
20:21 <luke-jr> z-man: apparently I need to rm src/protobuf/libprotobuf.a to get it to rebuild things
20:24 <z-man> it works for me.
20:24 <z-man> I moved stuff around, maybe starting from scratch helps?
20:30 <luke-jr> I mean when i modify a proto file
20:30 <luke-jr> stuff doesn't get regenerated automatically
20:47 <z-man> Still, I moved stuff around, and automake may have kept outdated files like dependencies.
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20:58 <Lucifer> #ping
20:59 <@armabot> pong
20:59 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-newspam] r1094 Extra param to FindPlayerByName() to not print stuff to cons... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-newspam] r1093 Known prefixes will now timeout sometime in the future.... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-newspam] r1092 * One letter prefixes can not be blocked now. Their score no...
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22:03 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r890 Fixed zone vanishing logic and the sumo collapse kill.... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r889 Fixed zShape::setReferenceTime, it needs to update the tFunc... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r888 Removed redundant sync request.... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-newspam] r1097 Factored out to se_CalcTimeout().... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-newspam] r1096 Fix issue where a false prefix would be found (most l
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22:22 <cpayan> Does anyone know how many subdomains the armagetronad.net site has right now? It's only forums, wiki, and beta, right?
22:23 <ct|kyle> cpayan: also the ones for short auth
22:23 <cpayan> ?
22:23 <ct|kyle> and the master servers
22:24 <cpayan> are those portions that a regular visitor would go to? Or more specific to arma's workings?
22:24 <ct|kyle> guru3: would be the one that would know them all
22:24 <cpayan> and in the darkness bind them?
22:24 <cpayan> What do you mean short auth?
22:25 <ct|kyle> like @ct points to crazy-tronners.com
22:25 <ct|kyle> when you login
22:26 <guru3> cpayan: why do you ask?
22:27 <cpayan> thinking thinking thinking about ways the site could change to be easier to use, easier to navigate, and be clearer to new users from the get-go
22:27 <guru3> ok
22:27 <guru3> there are a few subdomains floating around
22:27 <guru3> the's maptools
22:28 <guru3> gmail
22:28 <cpayan> gmail? really?
22:28 <guru3> yeah
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22:28 <guru3> tracker
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22:28 <guru3> authentication
22:28 <ct|kyle> there is a maptools one
22:28 <noob13> hey guru3, if i were to install an authority server on mastercontrolprogram.de, would it be possible to link that to @mcp?
22:28 <guru3> that about sums it up
22:29 <guru3> noob13: i could be persuaded
22:29 <noob13> with chocolate chip cookies?
22:29 <ct|kyle> noob13: he means bribed :P
22:29 <cpayan> Girls scout cookies should work
22:29 <guru3> actually
22:29 <guru3> i meant reasoning
22:30 <guru3> but hey, i'm up for bribes too
22:30 <noob13> ;D
22:30 <cpayan> so: beta, forums, wiki, maptools, gmail, tracker, and authentication
22:30 <guru3> they're all pretty much public except for gmail
22:30 <guru3> just thought it'd toss that out there for the fun of it
22:30 <cpayan> yea, just passed through maptools
22:30 <cpayan> what is gmail for?
22:30 <guru3> gmail?
22:30 <cpayan> guru3@armagetronad.net?
22:30 <guru3> actually, no
22:30 <guru3> tank.program ;)
22:31 <guru3> there's also master[1-4]
22:31 <cpayan> Ah, ok. I didn't know you received email at armagetron
22:31 <cpayan> heh
22:31 <ivantis2> anyone here run a wordpress blog?
22:31 <z-man> Besides Concord?
22:31 <ct|kyle> you know the person that named ganking does not even play tron that much anymore LOL
22:31 <guru3> not a lot of it cpayan
22:32 <cpayan> do the master subdomains do anything for a person in a browser? or is it mostly for the clients
22:32 <cpayan> ivantis2, I don't run one, but I modify wordpress blogs, badly
22:32 <cpayan> why?
22:32 <guru3> clients
22:32 <cpayan> ah ok
22:32 <guru3> authentication is for clients as well
22:32 <ivantis2> i might have a job to create a plugin
22:32 <guru3> they will take you places in a browser
22:32 <ivantis2> for wordpress
22:32 <guru3> but it's not really official
22:33 <cpayan> heh, don't ask me
22:33 <guru3> ivantis2: ive done plugin creation for wordpress
22:33 <cpayan> I'm bashing my head against the wall trying to make a plugin right now
22:33 <guru3> not a bad system
22:33 <guru3> bit annoying sometimes
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22:33 <guru3> like adding things to the admin panel
22:33 <guru3> completely rubbish
22:33 <ivantis2> guru3: what kind? i need to make one to add an option to the admin pannel
22:33 <ivantis2> and create posts at specified time intervals
22:34 <cpayan> really guru3? Sometime tonight I'm going to compile my problem and my thoughts, post it on the wordpress forums. Mind if I send it to you for a look?
22:34 <guru3> i made a plugin that substituted a static page url for dynamic content
22:34 <guru3> and i fooled around with cacheing
22:34 <guru3> (in a not very clever let's save the post processed html and then regurgitate it way)
22:34 <ivantis2> i made one that let the person who would post to use some markup of their own
22:34 <ivantis2> then use a regexp to change it to html
22:35 <ivantis2> to save on typing
22:35 <ivantis2> but then i never heard back from the client :(
22:35 <ivantis2> that was in november
22:35 <guru3> i also did one for this one sites donation drive
22:35 <ivantis2> car wreck? heart attack?
22:35 <ivantis2> who knows
22:35 <guru3> that was a bit of fun
22:35 <guru3> generally i'm not doing a lot of wordpress
22:36 <guru3> but i may have some more to do soon
22:36 <cpayan> "armathentication" cute
22:36  * guru3 points to z-man 
22:37 <guru3> we've got a few of those names i think
22:37 <guru3> although others escape me at the moment
22:37 <z-man> armatrators
22:37 <z-man> armathority
22:37 <ivantis2> there is an option in wordpress to schedule posts, right?
22:37 <ivantis2> something like linux's 'at'
22:38 <guru3> ivantis2: i'm pretty sure there is
22:38 <ivantis2> how does it work?
22:39 <guru3> not a clue
22:40 <ivantis2> seems like something that would be host dependant
22:40 <cpayan> http://support.wordpress.com/posts/schedule-a-post/
22:40 <cpayan> first thing on google
22:41 <guru3> and somehow 60 minutes = 2.25 hours :/
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22:41 <cpayan> isn't that how real life is?
22:42 <guru3> argh crap
22:43 <guru3> this javascript is getting out of hand
22:43 <ivantis2> hmm
22:44 <ivantis2> it probably creates the post then, and when a user trys to load the page, it checks if the time to post it has passed, and then either shows the page or redirects them
22:44 <guru3> 54 hours is not hte same as 24 :/
22:44 <ivantis2> what is you talking about?
22:44 <cpayan> 2.25*24
22:45 <guru3> 1440 minutes into hours
22:45 <guru3> should give 24
22:45 <guru3> but gives 54
22:45 <guru3> when i switch it to days
22:45 <ivantis2> where?
22:45 <guru3> it still gives 1
22:45 <ivantis2> wordpress?
22:45 <guru3> no
22:45 <guru3> local site
22:45 <ivantis2> weird
22:45 <guru3> yes
22:45 <guru3> yes it is
22:45 <BabyBug> idiots...
22:46 <guru3> does javascript on change trigger if the form was changed by javascript?
22:46 <ivantis2> no idea
22:47 <guru3> i think it does
22:47 <guru3> which is bad
22:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9133 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/tron/zone/zFortress.cpp): Manuel Moos: Removed redundant sync request.
22:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9134 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/tron/zone/zShape.cpp src/tron/zone/zShape.h): Manuel Moos: Fixed zShape::setReferenceTime, it needs to update the tFunction members.
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22:58 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9135 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/tron/zone/zFortress.cpp): Manuel Moos: Fixed zone vanishing logic and the sumo collapse kill.
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22:59 <ivantis2> release 9135? wow
23:00 <guru3> revision
23:00 <ivantis2> oh
23:00 <ivantis2> well still wow
23:00 <guru3> there's some point after a few years where it gets to that "holy crap when did release numbers become so high?"
23:00 <guru3> argh, revision numbers
23:01 <guru3> stupid reading what i wrote while typing
23:01 <ivantis2> stuff like that is weird
23:02 <ivantis2> humans can only do a few processes at a time
23:02 <guru3> i'm already working on my dissertation
23:02 <ivantis2> like sometimes i am thinking something, then i get ready to say something, and i say part of the last word i was thinking
23:02 <ivantis2> its like "turn on speaking of thoughts"
23:02 <ivantis2> too early
23:03 <zmanuel> guru3: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=19107&highlight= looks like from a spam account
23:03 <guru3> in that sub-forum and that url
23:03 <guru3> seems likely
23:04 <ivantis2> when the user is removed, all posts from them appear to be from "Guest"?
23:05 <guru3> yes
23:05 <ivantis2> s/the/a/
23:05 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r891 Made AIs aware of zones. That is:...
23:06 <guru3> zmanuel: :o
23:06 <ivantis2> AIs now aware of zones?
23:06 <zmanuel> yeah, but they still suck.
23:06 <ivantis2> i havent been online in such a long time
23:07 <guru3> this is the sort of thing
23:07 <guru3> i should write about on the mainsite
23:07 <guru3> (presumably)
23:08 <zmanuel> only when it's merged. It may prove to be stuck too deep in suckland.
23:08 <guru3> read the post and your comment from earlier now makes sense
23:16 <cpayan> guru3, I've been thinking about that. What should show up on the main site
23:17 <cpayan> Anyway. Forum thread about it sometime later tonight or tomorrow
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23:24 <dlh> z-man: can you update bugfarm elimination sumo to latest from the newspam branch? And after a busy day give me the output of “grep "Spam prefix found" armalog”?
23:33 <luke-jr> zmanuel: how do AIs know what they want to do with zones?
23:33 <luke-jr> maybe hints for each action (entry, exit, inside, outside)
23:34 <luke-jr> positive ints being "good for me", and negative ints being "avoid"
23:35 <luke-jr> but that is technically giving the AIs inside info :/
23:35 <luke-jr> so perhaps a separate thing saying "speeds like this of this colour are good"
23:35 <luke-jr> or something
23:36 <ivantis2> ...that would entirely fail with my zone color and speed settings
23:36 <luke-jr> ivantis2: your "zone color and speed settings" are probably fail anyway
23:37 <luke-jr> and the entire point of making it colour/speed-based would be so miscolours blind AIs in addition to humans
23:38 <ivantis2> yeah no one uses my branch anyway
23:38 <luke-jr> ivantis2: wtf are you even talking about?
23:38 <luke-jr> it's already possible to change zone speed and colour anyway
23:39 <ivantis2> itis?
23:39 <ivantis2> well i am fading away from arma
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23:42 <luke-jr> phew
23:42 <luke-jr> finally
23:42 <luke-jr> ivantis2: next time just put a <Color/> element inside the <ShapeCircle>
23:44 <ivantis2> oh
23:44 <ivantis2> and guess what?
23:44 <ivantis2> ai gots a job
23:44 <ivantis2> !!!
23:46 <luke-jr> o boi
23:46 <luke-jr> are you even old enough to work legally?
23:52 <ivantis2> i dont know
23:52 <ivantis2> this site didnt ask for my age
23:52 <ivantis2> its a programming job
23:54 <luke-jr> then it isn't a job
23:54 <joda_bot1> luke-jr: ?
23:54 -!- joda_bot1 is now known as joda_bot
23:55 <luke-jr> :p
23:55 <ivantis2> it isnt a job?
23:55 <ivantis2> wot you mean?
23:55 <ivantis2> getting paid to do something is a job, right?
23:55 <luke-jr> have they paid you?
23:55 <ivantis2> not yet
23:56 <ivantis2> elance.com
23:56 <ivantis2> maybe you should sign up
23:56 <cpayan> o.O how low didja bid?
23:57 <ivantis2> $50
23:57 <ivantis2> its a smallish job
23:57 <cpayan> what kind of work is it?
23:57 <ivantis2> a wordpress plugin
23:57 <ivantis2> what i said before
23:57 <cpayan> ah
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00:02 <epsy> guru3, aah, wordpress's own rewrite rules thing is annoying
00:04 <z-man> dlh: can do.
00:06 <ivantis2> weird, i was just speaking of wordpress
00:08 <z-man> luke-jr: right now, they only know 'good for me'.
00:09 <@armabot> armacommits: [bugfarm-scripts] r19 Rearranged some stuff to avoid the '32 minutes to next elimi... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-newspam] r1098 escape colors
00:09 <epsy> I've been thinking a bit about how would the menus be ideally organized
00:09 <epsy> I ended up on having server browser as the main menu
00:10 <cpayan> Personally, textpattern
00:10 <cpayan> But the people want wordpress, so i works with wordpress
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00:29 <nsh22> hai hai hai
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01:13 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-zone-models] r888 zShapeModel, that does not work :( || [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r892 Don't find your path to a zone, it doesn't work properly (an...
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01:25 <joda_bot> epsy: Are you interested in doing somekind of use case based analysis of the menus ?
01:25 <joda_bot> ah, he left
01:26 <joda_bot> well tomorrow then
01:26 <joda_bot> gn8
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01:40 <nsh22> ZURD!
01:40 <nsh22> since when did you have irc?
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01:40 <nsh22> Zurd: ping
01:41 <luke-jr> Zurd: PING
01:41 <Zurd> ok, i need assistance, its not a bug, because i have tried on several different firmwares...everytime i got to enter a server, it loads all the settings and config, then after 5 sec, the whole game crashes, and shuts down. The is the yellow trianlge icon at the bottom of my screen that says " armagetron_sdll corrupted"...i have unistalled and reinstalled many many times at this point...and everything to the best of my kno
01:42 <Zurd> hey neal
01:42 <Zurd> i come in evry now and then
01:43 <Zurd> ^ i have even gone so far as switching my gfx cards^
01:46 <dlh> Zurd: what version are you running, and on what OS?
01:46 <Zurd> i went from the 2.8.3 beta 2 to the official 2.8.1<curently on>, on windows xp SP3
01:47 <luke-jr> Zurd: we don't even have 1.0 yet
01:47 <luke-jr> let alone 2.8
01:47 <luke-jr> ]yandere start theme=twg
01:47 <Zurd> then it was 2.7.3 and 2.7.1.........
01:47 <luke-jr> we don't have a 2.7 yet
01:47 <Zurd> ???
01:47 <nsh22> s0.2.8
01:48 <luke-jr> is unsupported and obsolete
01:48 <nsh22> it is?
01:48 <nsh22> s0.2.8.2?
01:48 <nsh22>
01:48 <luke-jr> is latest stable
01:49 <Zurd> ok, i was mixed up in my numbering, it was beta2 to stable(current)
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01:51 <luke-jr> Zurd: I know nothing about a
01:51 <nsh22> he meant
01:51 <nsh22> why do you have to be so specific? :P
01:52 <luke-jr> becuase they actually mean something
01:52 <nsh22> ...
01:52 <nsh22> #night
01:52 <@armabot> Good night nsh22!
01:52 <nsh22> #weather innisfil
01:52 <@armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Innisfil, Innisfil, Ontario is 23.2°F (7:52 PM EST on March 04, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 5.0°F. Windchill: 23.0°F. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026.0 hPa (Rising).
01:52 <Zurd> ok well, now that we have all that clarified, ahy know anything about the problem?
01:52 <nsh22> its fucking balmy
01:53 <nsh22> :P
01:53 <nsh22> im not even joking
01:53 <nsh22> kk im out
01:53 <Zurd> later neal
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01:56 <Zurd> has this been problemed been issued before?
01:57 <luke-jr> Zurd: what version works?
01:57 <Zurd> none have worked
01:57 <luke-jr> dlh: did you answer dlh yet?
01:57 <Zurd> i've been able to get into the server browser, but after that, nada
01:58 <Zurd> yea, i thought i did
01:58 <luke-jr> I missed it.
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01:58 <Zurd> dlh: i went from the beta 2 to the official<curently on>, on windows xp SP3
01:58 <animuson> does anyone know why it renames the players when they login?
01:59 <luke-jr> o i c
01:59 <animuson> like EricForLyfe@animuson.com renames him to EricForLyfe
01:59 <luke-jr> Zurd: try on Kubuntu or some sane OS
01:59 <ct|kyle> animuson: because the are not using a beta clients
01:59 <luke-jr> animuson: he's running an old version
01:59 <ct|kyle> old = stable :P
01:59 <Zurd> luke-jr: ok, i'll try on my ubuntu
01:59 <animuson> i run 0.2.8 but it doesnt rename me when i lgoin :-/
01:59 <ct|kyle> you probably are not running
02:00 <Zurd> run the newest beta, it should work fine
02:00 <animuson> i am
02:00 <animuson> thats the number it says when it starts up
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02:00 <ct|kyle> is your grid name different that you /login name though?
02:00 <ct|kyle> or do you have a reservered_name for yourself?
02:00 <animuson> yea i use $t->animuson and login as animuson@animuson.com
02:01 <luke-jr> wtf kind of name is that
02:01 <animuson> ?
02:03 <animuson> ...
02:03 <dlh> animuson: what do you mean they are renamed?
02:03 <animuson> like |PT*iMe logs in as ptiMe@animuson.com and gets renamed to ptiMe
02:04 <luke-jr> ]yandere start theme=twg
02:04 <ljrbot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "]yandere" to join.
02:05 <animuson> erednay[
02:05 <luke-jr> -.-
02:05 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
02:05 <animuson> ]yandere
02:05 <luke-jr> ]yandere extend
02:05 <ljrbot> Added another waiting extension.
02:05 <animuson> lol
02:06 <animuson> so noone knows about the login thing?
02:06 <luke-jr> animuson: we already told you
02:06 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
02:06 <animuson> that doesnt explain why it does it to other people but not me tho :P
02:07 <ljrbot> There aren't enough players to start the Worm Game. Try again later.
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02:08 <animuson> if u install a newer arma client will it keep ur player settings and stuff?
02:08 <luke-jr> if it's from the same series
02:18 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r894 They grind! The split is a tad uncoordinated, better hope yo... || [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r893 Improved team management:...
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02:25 <animuson> how do i scroll up in a screen session?
02:26 <mkzelda> shift+pgup?
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03:08 <smoothice> luke-jr: flag zones appear! :D
03:09 <luke-jr> smoothice: wd; but they always did for me once it compiled
03:09 <smoothice> I'm talking about the work you did
03:09 <smoothice> thanks a lot
03:09 <smoothice> I'm so excited
03:10 <luke-jr> O.o
03:10 <ct|kyle> now learn what he did :P
03:10 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: nothing really
03:10 <luke-jr> I just made it compile..
03:11 <smoothice> for some reason the code that detects which team the flag is on doesn't work though
03:11 <ct|kyle> where is a server to see
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03:11 <smoothice> one sec
03:11 <ct|kyle> o0 Genki
03:11 <smoothice> yo genki
03:12 <Genki> heya
03:12 <ct|kyle> Genki: you Yahoo was hacked
03:12 <Genki> I heard I changed the pass a few days ago
03:12  * ct|kyle got spammed from it Friday
03:12 <ct|kyle> ok
03:12 <Genki> mhmm
03:12 <Genki> lemme know if you get any more
03:12 <ct|kyle> ok
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03:18 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-old-glancing] r759 Merge from trunk... || [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r895 Stalemate break. If nobody is willing to attack, defenders r...
03:19 <smoothice> luke-jr: Where is the code in your fortress stuff that sets the color of the zone to the color of the closest team? I cannot find it
03:20 <smoothice> luke-jr: nevermind, I found it in a new function you made that I wasn't expecting
03:41 <smoothice> luke-jr: the OnInside method of zFlagZone isn't working at all.. I put an sn_ConsoleOut in there with a \n and it never runs when I go inside the flag zone
03:43 <smoothice> luke-jr: yep, I can verify that OnInside is not running
03:44 <luke-jr> smoothice: why not? ;)
03:44 <smoothice> that's why I asked?
03:44 <smoothice> I tried OnEntry too
03:44 <smoothice> and it didn't work either
03:47 <luke-jr> bet you're overriding something important and not passing it
03:48 <smoothice> what do you mean?
03:50 <luke-jr> like Timestep
03:51 <smoothice> what do you mean overriding
03:51 <smoothice> aren't they called my the zZone engine automatically?
03:51 <smoothice> by the *
03:54 <luke-jr> yes, zZone calls them
03:54 <luke-jr> probably in zZone::Timestep
03:54 <smoothice> so then how could I be overriding OnEntry?
03:54 <luke-jr> but if you override it with zFlagZone::Timestep, you need to call zZone::Timestep yourself
03:54 <luke-jr> same goes for OnEntry and co
03:54 <luke-jr> or any method you override
03:55 <smoothice> where do I put that?
03:55 <smoothice> In my own Timestep?
03:58 <ct|kyle> #m z-man http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/6291/screenshot77.png I'm running the trunk playing in smoothice's server, Not sure if it is a bug, a bug that has been fixed or what.
03:58 <@armabot> ct|kyle: The operation succeeded.
03:59 <ct|kyle> #am z-man by smoothice's server it is his zones v2 sty testing
03:59 <smoothice> #help am
04:00 <@armabot> smoothice: Error: There is no command "am".
04:00 <smoothice> #help m
04:00 <@armabot> smoothice: (m <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "later tell $*".
04:00 <ct|kyle> #m z-man by smoothice's server it is his zones v2 sty testing
04:00 <@armabot> ct|kyle: The operation succeeded.
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04:10 <smoothice> luke-jr: Well Timestep was not being overridden
04:10 <smoothice> luke-jr: and all of the rest don't have to run their zZone parent, do they
04:10 <smoothice> ?
04:15 <luke-jr> of course they do
04:18 <smoothice> luke-jr: zFortress doesn't
04:18 <luke-jr> probably a bug
04:18 <smoothice> but it obviously works
04:19 <smoothice> mine doesn't work at all
04:21 <luke-jr> are you overriding interact whatever?
04:21 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r874 Set color of flag to the team color
04:23 <smoothice> luke-jr: InteractWith?
04:24 <luke-jr> I think the 'I' is lowercase
04:27 <smoothice> well no anyways
04:27 <smoothice> this is really strange
04:27 <smoothice> the zone practically does nothing
04:31 <smoothice> luke-jr: can you give r874 a quick compile?
04:32 <luke-jr> no'
04:33 <smoothice> :(
04:33 <smoothice> I'm truly stumped when it comes to zZone extends
04:38 <ct|kyle> smoothice: it sits there looking ugly what more do you want :P
04:38 <smoothice> ?
04:39 <luke-jr> XD
04:39 <smoothice> ??????
04:39 <luke-jr> smoothice: I'm at work, can't touch any code right now
04:39 <ct|kyle> looks ugly meaning white zone
04:39 <smoothice> It ain't white anymore
04:40 <smoothice> but it still does look ugly
04:40 <ct|kyle> o0
04:40 <ct|kyle> heh
04:40 <smoothice> luke-jr: don't you live in Iowa?
04:41 <luke-jr> no
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04:41 <smoothice> I thought you said you did
04:41 <luke-jr> nope
04:42 <ct|kyle> smoothice: wtf is #include "zZone.pb.h"
04:42 <ct|kyle> wait nm
04:42 <ct|kyle> LOL
04:43 <ct|kyle> smoothice: why do you need to #include "zone/zFortress.h"
04:50 <smoothice> umm
04:50 <smoothice> I copied zFortress
04:50 <smoothice> lol
04:50 <smoothice> oooh
04:50 <smoothice> whoa that might mess it up...
04:51 <ct|kyle> heh
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04:53 <Pathetique> *give me that filet of fish, give me that fish (oooh!)*
04:53 <smoothice> ?
04:53 <Pathetique> You've not seen the new McDonalds commercial?
04:53 <luke-jr> you watch TV?
04:54 <Pathetique> I like to watch a few shows.
04:54 <smoothice> lol
04:54 <Pathetique> But I don't watch it like people watch "boob-toobs"
04:54 <Pathetique> I only watch the news and Battlestar Galactica.
04:54 <Pathetique> That's about it.
04:54 <Pathetique> lol
04:55 <Pathetique> What about you, luke-jr?
04:56 <Pathetique> What's in YOUR wallet?
04:56 <Pathetique> o.0
04:56 <luke-jr> I don't watch TV.
04:56 <luke-jr> I don't even have it plugged in.
04:56 <Pathetique> That's quite silly.
04:56 <luke-jr> nah
04:56 <Pathetique> :]
04:57 <Pathetique> luke-jr, you've had your fair share of the ganja, haven't you?
04:59 <ct|kyle> I probably won't be watching too much tv anymore
05:00 <ct|kyle> they are getting rid of the only sho I watch
05:00 <Pathetique> which is...?
05:00 <ct|kyle> Kyle XY :P
05:00 <Pathetique> ROFL!
05:00 <ct|kyle> I like sci-fi
05:00 <Pathetique> is that why you're tron name is kyle?
05:00 <ct|kyle> no my real name is kyle
05:00 <Pathetique> So do I
05:00 <Pathetique> oic
05:03 <Pathetique> What do you think of Battlestar Galactica or Stargate Atlantis?
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06:24 <cpayan> I'm confused, what does the Mates function in the new beta do?
06:28 <cpayan> ah, only shows servers where your mates are?
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06:44 <cpayan> Lucifer, eating people :D
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06:49 <Durka> #hello
06:49 <Durka> anyone home?
06:49 <@armabot> Hello Durka :) Quote #26: "<Lucifer_arma> I want fundamentalism just so I can wipe my ass with luke-jr_'s face" (added by spidey at 05:44 AM, October 25, 2006)
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08:22 <cpayan> hey durka
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08:29 <cpayan> err
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11:51 <tramshed> BONGRIPS FOR JESUS
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14:49 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r897 EmergencyGrind now calls basic ThinkGrind.... || [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r896 Refined grinding and splitting by storing substates....
14:51 <BabyBug> fortress ai? :o
14:53 <joda_bot> #/whois joda_bot
14:53 <joda_bot> #/op joda_bot
14:53 <joda_bot> :-P
14:53 <joda_bot> #echo /op joda_bot
14:53 <@armabot> /op joda_bot
14:53 <joda_bot> heh
14:53 <joda_bot> :D
14:53 <BabyBug>  #op =)
14:53 <joda_bot> :-P
14:54 <joda_bot> I'm not allowed to be opped I guess
14:54 <joda_bot> #op joda_bot
14:54 <@armabot> joda_bot: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
14:54 <joda_bot> #whoami joda_bot
14:54 <@armabot> joda_bot: (whoami takes no arguments) -- Returns the name of the user calling the command.
14:54 <joda_bot> #whoami
14:54 <@armabot> joda_bot: I don't recognize you.
14:54 <joda_bot> hehe good :D
14:55 <epsy> @op joda_bot
14:55 <teabot> epsy: Error: I need to be opped to op someone.
14:55 <epsy> bbl
14:55 <epsy> #op joda_bot
14:55 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o joda_bot] by armabot
14:55 <@joda_bot> :-)
14:55 <@joda_bot> lol
14:55 <@joda_bot> #deop joda_bot
14:55 <@armabot> joda_bot: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
14:55 <BabyBug> #deop joda_bot
14:55 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o joda_bot] by armabot
14:55 <epsy> :P
14:55 <BabyBug> :D
14:55 <joda_bot> hehe
14:56 <joda_bot> epsy: I read that you spend some thoughts on userfriendly menus ?
14:56 <joda_bot> epsy: did you write some of that down ?
14:56 <epsy> no
14:57 <epsy> bb in  hour
14:57 <joda_bot> k
14:57 <epsy> 1*
15:03 <BabyBug> #si ai fortress
15:03 <@armabot> BabyBug: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “ai fortress” at the moment, sorry.
15:03 <BabyBug> hrmph
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15:39 <smoothice> #m z-man now that we have a fortress AI, we should make a racing AI and a CTF ai :)
15:39 <@armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
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15:51 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r898 Factored out chatbot AI so it can be used by regular AI....
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16:30 <epsy> is smoothice stupid?
16:30 <BabyBug> if i was able to bite my tongue, i'm sure you can too epsy! xD
16:31 <Lizmatic> if you notice he's stupid from that sentence BB then you are a nerd, liar
16:31 <epsy> you aren't ?
16:31 <epsy> Lizmatic, why would we have bots support CTF before we support CTF ourselves?
16:31 <Lizmatic> love you anyway but srsly you big giant nerd :P
16:31 <Lizmatic> I DON'T KNOW!
16:32 <epsy> me neither
16:32 <BabyBug> i hate you Lizmatic
16:32 <epsy> it's quite of a nonsense
16:32 <PinkTomato> We had programmers before Computers :)
16:33 <epsy> yeah and they were coding in python of course
16:37 <joda_bot> ...
16:38 <epsy> joda_bot, want me to write about my menus thing?
16:39 <joda_bot> depends on what your approach was
16:39 <joda_bot> or goal
16:39 <epsy> main problems in menus currently are:
16:39 <epsy> 1/ You cannot customize them
16:39 <epsy> 2/ Nothing can add an entry to a menu
16:39 <joda_bot> epsy: I'd be in favor of making menus least click / key press navigation (user friendly)
16:40 <epsy> 3/ It takes 3 submenus to actually get to the server browser
16:40 <BabyBug> and they whore the cpu!
16:40 <joda_bot> I second 3 :-)
16:40 <epsy> BabyBug, vsync off?
16:40 <BabyBug> yes yes vsync off
16:40 <epsy> so, my idea would be to have it revolve around the server browser
16:40 <epsy> BabyBug, turn it on
16:40 <epsy> BabyBug, problem fixed
16:41 <joda_bot> epsy: hm, but first time entering the game needs a fix too (ask for username and player color)
16:41 <epsy> so, at first run the user would be shown a prompt for ...
16:41 <epsy> gah!
16:41 <epsy> :)
16:41 <PinkTomato> that dosen't work for me
16:41 <epsy> so yeah, username, color, car and whatnot
16:41 <joda_bot> I guess we've got similiar ideas
16:41 <epsy> scrap the select language part
16:42 <PinkTomato> epsy: I suggest not :)
16:42 <joda_bot> But I would not want to remove the single player / local game options
16:42 <epsy> we will just let gettext decide
16:42 <PinkTomato> o
16:42 <PinkTomato> that's ok,
16:42 <epsy> I don't either
16:42 <joda_bot> I'd rather make two start menu entries one shortcut for online gaming, and keep the usual menu entry (with restructured menu)
16:43 <epsy> now the thing would be to have the server browser on the main screen AND other menus, without cluttering everything up
16:43 <joda_bot> My goal would be to also get Crazy Tronners map to be playable offline... but I'm not sure how difficult that is
16:43 <joda_bot> haven't check on that.
16:43 <epsy> we could have a smaller server browser instead, and an entry to reach a more advanced server browser
16:43 <PinkTomato> with ruby support
16:43 <PinkTomato> that would be possible?
16:44 <epsy> if there are server bookmartks set, main screen should only show bookmarks
16:44 <PinkTomato> What about game mode select?
16:44 <joda_bot> PinkTomato: I was more thinking about using the usual php hacks on all platforms upto the point when arma supports real scripting
16:44 <epsy> PinkTomato, required gametype support
16:44 <epsy> joda_bot, hm yeah, that would need canonical names for resources
16:45 <epsy> so we have downloaded items as a list
16:45 <epsy> or tree
16:45 <PinkTomato> epsy: would that be hard to implement?
16:45 <epsy> that being .. ?
16:45 <PinkTomato> server game types
16:45 <epsy> that would mean rewriting gGame from scratch
16:45 <epsy> has been on our TODO list for so long
16:45 <epsy> depends on scripting, really
16:46 <PinkTomato> ah :(
16:46 <epsy> but you can be pretty sure you will see it
16:46 <joda_bot> epsy: I'm not sure if gGame really has to changed for that, but in the end I agree gGame needs refactoring for scripting
16:47 <joda_bot> epsy: one could still use the a delegate console output to script read instructions from script approch/hack
16:47 <joda_bot> like it's done for the current server maps
16:48 <epsy> let people do it, but better make it possible to do it properly, instead of encouraging that :)
16:48 <joda_bot> epsy: the rewrite won't be finished before 2011 :D
16:48 <joda_bot> I guess
16:48 <epsy> heh
16:49 <epsy> just needs some dependencies to be set
16:49 <joda_bot> ok, back to menus
16:49 <epsy> then I'm sure someone will really want to do it
16:49 <epsy> [17:44] <epsy>: if there are server bookmartks set, main screen should only show bookmarks
16:49 <epsy> [17:43] <epsy>: we could have a smaller server browser instead, and an entry to reach a more advanced server browser
16:49 <joda_bot> How did you come up with that idea ?
16:50 <joda_bot> I don't think I want to see only my empty bookmarked servers
16:50 <epsy> the serverbrowser as mainscreen mainly comes from quakelive I guess
16:50 <epsy> joda_bot, only if you have bookmarked servers :)
16:50 <joda_bot> I have styball
16:50 <joda_bot> but to 90% noone is online there
16:50 <joda_bot> so your design bugs :D
16:50 <joda_bot> atleast for me
16:51 <epsy> well, if your filters would hide every listed server in your bookmarks, it would switch to normal server browser
16:51 <joda_bot> why not leave it at the current priorities
16:51 <joda_bot> I usually just sort the servers by number of users / players
16:51 <epsy> yes
16:51 <joda_bot> as the score thing is not something I really understand the ordering
16:52 <joda_bot> of
16:52 <joda_bot> e.g. display bookmarked servers first, then other servers
16:53 <epsy> there's also that
16:53 <epsy> and also: ping bookmarked servers first, too :)
16:53 <joda_bot> I agreed
16:53 <joda_bot> but those are minor details
16:53 <joda_bot> I think
16:54 <epsy> now, should we have two different serverbrowser screens, or a "Customize/Filter" popup ?
16:54 <PinkTomato> what order are server's pinged currently?
16:54 <joda_bot> I rather thought about how to find options etc.
16:54 <epsy> PinkTomato, in the order they are listed
16:54 <joda_bot> listed by the master server
16:54 <epsy> PinkTomato, which is pretty much random
16:54 <PinkTomato> Ah right :)
16:55 <epsy> well, let's say you have the server browser on the top of the screen
16:55 <epsy> under that, you have: Customize Server View and Server Info
16:55 <epsy> then, under under that, you could have Play a Local Game, and options
16:55 <joda_bot> did you miss that feature ?
16:56 <epsy> what feature?
16:56 <joda_bot> I usually only got the problem to find a specific server
16:56 <joda_bot> which might be solved by a simple "Search" option ...
16:56 <epsy> and also maybe a filter, too
16:56 <epsy> well, some people only want to see servers within 50 ms ping, some only under 200
16:57 <epsy> for example
16:57 <joda_bot> sort by ping :D
16:57 <epsy> but I'm not sure what feature you mean
16:57 <epsy> joda_bot, show full/empty
16:57 <joda_bot> I'm more or less thinking that the server browser is the least of our troubles concerning user friendlyness ?
16:58 <epsy> one of the problems was that it was hard to be found
16:58 <joda_bot> yeah, I agreed with that, but that is gobal menu navigation problem
16:59 <joda_bot> is *a* global
16:59 <epsy> and well, I don't really see a problem with having the server browser as main screen
16:59 <epsy> especially since it's the first thing an user will jump to, usually
16:59 <PinkTomato> epsy: network activity is a lot
17:00 <joda_bot> depends :-) is internet available ? do we have a (sane) single player mode
17:00 <epsy> we don't
17:00 <joda_bot> yeah, but we will have :-)
17:00 <epsy> now well, armagetron is a multiplayer game, usually
17:00 <PinkTomato> Its the first thing everyone we know jump to
17:00 <PinkTomato> but the single player gamers don't usually come here :)
17:00 <BabyBug> what's wrong with single player? :s
17:00 <epsy> and it's one of the things the first-time user sometimes doesn't find
17:00 <joda_bot> otherwise we don't get smarter noobs :D
17:01 <joda_bot> hm, yeah, I agree it needs to easier to find
17:01 <PinkTomato> having to wait 50 seconds for the game to ping something I don't want to be  playing would be annyoying :(
17:01 <joda_bot> but I don't want all people to be "forced" into the server browser
17:02 <epsy> and well, for these users that don't say anything, there's still the Local Play button
17:02 <joda_bot> you might not want your boss / firewall admin to know that you just fired up armagetron :D
17:02 <luke-jr> can someone test email me plox
17:02 <epsy> your problem
17:02 <joda_bot> luke-jr: where to ?
17:02 <epsy> PinkTomato, and if you don't want to play an internet game, just click local game?
17:02 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: cache the server list info and refresh when you open it
17:02 <PinkTomato> ah but the server browser jams the game
17:03 <joda_bot> epsy: I still suggest, add a armagetron commandline option
17:03 <luke-jr> joda_bot: luke at dashjr blah org
17:03 <joda_bot> which automatically kicks you to the server browser
17:03 <epsy> PinkTomato, jams the game?
17:03 <joda_bot> and fix the menus for startup without the browser
17:03 <PinkTomato> Loading the server browser in its current state blocks the user from doing anything
17:03 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, you mean just when retrieving the list from the masters?
17:03 <epsy> the server browser isn't on the mainscreen in it's current state either
17:04 <luke-jr> IMO, this discussion should be on a wiki
17:04 <epsy> so that has to be changed as well
17:04 <PinkTomato> right, If I want local game, then I don't wait for that :)
17:04 <epsy> ok, shall we all move to a wiki talk page?
17:04 <epsy> exactly
17:04 <PinkTomato> Local Game, Lan Game, Internet Game, Game Options, Exit to?
17:04 <epsy> joda_bot, you could have a setting for the server browser to only ping bookmarks
17:05 <luke-jr> epsy: that defeats the purpose of the server browser :p
17:05 <epsy> that's why that wouldn't be default
17:06 <PinkTomato> That wouldn't need to be a setting?
17:06 <epsy> I would suggest default to be first bookmarks, then if there's no bookmark to be shown, regular servers
17:06 <epsy> but joda_bot's asking for it
17:06 <PinkTomato> That should be what happens when you select Internet Game -> Bookmarks
17:06 <joda_bot> epsy: I think you've got alot of valid points. But I'm opposed to your server browser as "main menu", because you neglect valid use cases that u don't use
17:06 <epsy> because he can't save his productivity properly :>
17:06 <epsy> what do I neglect for use cases?
17:07 <epsy> PinkTomato, no, that should only show bookmarks
17:07 <joda_bot> people on LAN parties, kids playing on a local school computer (never getting any servers on that list)
17:07 <joda_bot> I guess there are alot more use cases like single player games
17:07 <joda_bot> etc.
17:07 <epsy> then they can put themselves on that list
17:07 <PinkTomato> Internet Browser takes forever on port blocked firewall
17:08 <joda_bot> that's why I suggest to make a extra shortcut or commandline option which directly jumps to the server browser (+ fixing the overall menu structure)
17:08 <epsy> and have arma remember they only want to browse lan
17:08 <PinkTomato> epsy: But its adding useful information? Surely adding pinging servers to bookmarks would be useful?
17:08 <epsy> yes
17:09 <PinkTomato> Adding it as a setting makes the bookmark browser redundant?
17:09 <joda_bot> epsy: first impression is important... your website does not usually start with "downloads" feature but a general overview what the site is about :D
17:09 <joda_bot> same should apply to armagetron's main menu
17:09 <epsy> the guy already downloaded the game then
17:09 <epsy> now he wants to play
17:09 <joda_bot> show the use cases of the armagetron application and let the user select what he/she wants to do
17:10 <epsy> but he first has to go through player character creation
17:10 <joda_bot> might even have been included with the pc, copied from a friend or on a CD
17:10 <joda_bot> download is not the only way of getting arma
17:10 <epsy> otherwise you can get a boring main menu like tremulous's
17:11 <joda_bot> epsy: the player creating is an idea, I'm not sure if it fits the usual use case ...
17:11 <joda_bot> oh ok, bad phrasing
17:11 <joda_bot> it definitly fits the mainstream use case
17:11 <epsy> joda_bot, well, controls have to be set during that phase
17:11 <epsy> so it fits ever phase
17:11 <epsy> er
17:11 <epsy> case
17:12 <joda_bot> epsy: player name must not be configured on the same option page as keybindings
17:12 <joda_bot> for local games you can just configure keys and play, or even play without configuring anything
17:12 <epsy> So, main menu would be: Play online, Practise and Settings?
17:12 <epsy> joda_bot, of course not
17:12 <joda_bot> the newer clients just use the local user name for player name (which is ok too)
17:13 <epsy> except on windows :)
17:13 <PinkTomato> Maybe the first start up should be to choose between a z,x,c standard key binding or up,down,left,right etc.
17:13 <joda_bot> It does not work on Windows ?
17:13 <joda_bot> I thought it did ?
17:13 <epsy> but they will sure like to set their own color
17:13 <epsy> and so forth
17:13 <joda_bot> no, not if they just want to get an idea if they like the game :D
17:14 <PinkTomato> a grid of colours to select?
17:14 <PinkTomato> and then with a customise
17:14 <epsy> PinkTomato, mmm no :(
17:14 <epsy> three color components and a preview?
17:14 <joda_bot> PinkTomato: heh, I guess epsy and me are just talking about moving existing features not making vista like user friendly rotating eye candy :D
17:14 <epsy> a preview beinga niiice rotating cycle
17:15 <joda_bot> epsy: do we ?
17:15 <epsy> not in the first place
17:15 <PinkTomato> A grid is more user friendly ^_^
17:15 <epsy> but sucks
17:15 <epsy> three color bars
17:15 <epsy> = win
17:15 <PinkTomato> well it won't work without mouse control
17:15 <PinkTomato> the gird, I mean
17:15 <epsy> can work with keyboard
17:16 <epsy> and
17:16 <joda_bot> epsy: I like your suggestion with the talk page, might be good to document the current menu structure
17:16 <epsy> ah *
17:16 <epsy> PinkTomato, well, idea is to keep both
17:16 <joda_bot> and then find out what people tend to think about
17:16 <epsy> PinkTomato, think about consoles/arcades and phones
17:16 <epsy> it was sarcastic >.>
17:16 <joda_bot> I like the perspective with Online, Pratice etc. just not sure where LAN fits in etc.
17:16 <epsy> we're all here, so a talk page wouldn't be of any benefit
17:17 <epsy> ah
17:17 <epsy> Play Online, Play on LAN, Practise, Options, Exit
17:17 <Lizmatic> epsy, TST TST TST!
17:17 <epsy> Lizmatic, like, on the same day than FFF?
17:17 <joda_bot> epsy: but the wiki allows people to inspect and comment on our views later
17:17 <epsy> yes
17:17 <joda_bot> which is kind of difficult here ?
17:17 <epsy> so we will first get a document to review
17:18 <epsy> then let people post stuff on the talk page
17:18 <joda_bot> perhaps I should first think about if anyone is willing to comment on our menu idea ?
17:18 <epsy> we don't need to make choices for everything, but we don't want to use a talk page on an empty page
17:18 <joda_bot> otherwise we can just decide ourself :-)
17:18 <epsy> PinkTomato is doing so
17:19 <PinkTomato> epsy: ?
17:19 <Lizmatic> Epsy, when is FFF?:o
17:19 <epsy> [18:18] <joda_bot>: perhaps I should first think about if anyone is willing to comment on our menu idea ?
17:19 <epsy> Lizmatic, see #.tourneys
17:19 <PinkTomato> oh, I am. hehe :)
17:20 <PinkTomato> Help for the function in option delay could come faster
17:20 <epsy> what?
17:20 <joda_bot> I guess tomato is talking about the "tooltips" below the menu items
17:20 <PinkTomato> When you are in settings, help for the function at the buttom of the screen, but it takes ages to appear
17:20 <epsy> ah that
17:20 <epsy> definitely
17:21 <PinkTomato> Also Display Settings might need clearer names for the options within it
17:21 <Lizmatic> ah
17:22 <epsy> PinkTomato, well, what would that be?
17:22 <PinkTomato> I always seem to look in every menu till I find that "swap mode" function I was after etc
17:22 <joda_bot> epsy: ok, I think PinkTomato and other peoples annoyances should really be collected first ... might give us a strange new perspective
17:23 <epsy> bugtracker?
17:23 <epsy> tag your bugs with "menus"
17:23 <joda_bot> epsy: how about I'll make a wiki page about the current menu layout and we create a list of problems below that ?
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17:23 <PinkTomato> It's not clear to me the difference between Preferences (with sparks, Sky) and Detail Settings.
17:23 <epsy> that would be part of it
17:23 <BabyBug> Genki! <3
17:24 <Genki> heya
17:24 <epsy> PinkTomato, preference is more about preferences and detail settings are more about fps
17:24 <joda_bot> PinkTomato: do you know how to use the wiki? and do you know how to use the launchpad.net bugtracker ?
17:24 <epsy> now that's meant for the views of a casual game
17:24 <epsy> r
17:25 <epsy> ie. turning wall texture off will be a preference for an advanced player
17:25 <PinkTomato> Not done the bugtracker, but wiki is ok. Sky settings seem more of a detail though
17:26 <joda_bot> epsy: I guess the same is true for many other forum users ? they might have used the wiki for ladle but not the bugtracker ?
17:26 <epsy> PinkTomato, Detail settings = Performance
17:26 <epsy> not detail as "ohh look at this tiny object in the corner"
17:26 <joda_bot> Yeah, we might it call it Qaulity/Performance later :D
17:27 <PinkTomato> Hmm, there is a thin line between the two, as details can affect frames
17:27 <epsy> joda_bot, idl
17:27 <PinkTomato> as well
17:27 <epsy> idk *
17:27 <epsy> most users don't use either
17:27 <PinkTomato> true
17:27 <PinkTomato> Turning sound off should be easier, Currently you use Sound Quality option
17:28 <joda_bot> ok, great getting all this nice input, and no wiki page done yet :-)
17:29 <epsy> well, you do it, I'll work on modules a bit
17:29 <joda_bot> luke-jr: what about the email did you get it?
17:29 <joda_bot> epsy: I'll do some of it right now... so perhaps some users might extend and help :D just making the structure of the page
17:30 <joda_bot> epsy: what modules ?
17:30 <epsy> those that don't exist yet :)
17:30 <epsy> I have to think of a proper way of building them now
17:31 <epsy> @g trunk-eevent-modules
17:31 <teabot> epsy: https://code.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/trunk-eevent-modules - “~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/trunk-eevent-modules” branch in ...
17:33 <joda_bot> epsy: ah ok
17:34 <luke-jr> joda_bot: no :<
17:34 <luke-jr> epsy: modules exist for zones
17:35 <epsy> luke-jr, read: dynamically loadable modules
17:35 <luke-jr> they are dynamically loadable ☺
17:35 <epsy> are they?
17:35 <luke-jr> the problem is there is nothing to load them dynamically
17:35 <luke-jr> but they are perfectly capable of being loaded as such
17:35 <epsy> yes, so that's waht I'm doing, grrr :)
17:35 <luke-jr> literally, just a dlopen should do it ☺
17:36 <epsy> yes, now doing it properly takes a bit more
17:36 <luke-jr> "properly"?
17:36 <epsy> eg. you don't dlopen a python script
17:36 <epsy> :P
17:36 <luke-jr> o right
17:36 <joda_bot> eh luke-jr was the blah.org required or spam protection ?
17:36 <luke-jr> no idea how python modules would work
17:36 <luke-jr> joda_bot: it was a dot
17:36 <epsy> I don't know either
17:36 <joda_bot> luke-jr: dashjr DOT org ?
17:36 <joda_bot> :D
17:36 <epsy> but there's room for different module loaders
17:36 <luke-jr> :p
17:37 <joda_bot> luke-jr: if I got the address wrong, well just tell me ... wait
17:37 <epsy> which could be created from a module :D
17:45 <PinkTomato> argh, I spilt my drink.
17:45 <PinkTomato> yay, keyboard works
17:45 <PinkTomato> ,./1lm [p;l.µ 7
17:45 <PinkTomato> [
17:45 <PinkTomato> p[]
17:45 <PinkTomato> ;l./;@,vb opl;ool.bn v}@~
17:46 <PinkTomato> oops, sorry.
17:47 <epsy>  /query PinkTomato
17:57 <luke-jr> epsy: you might want to check zEffector for the module interface I made
17:58 <epsy> someone makes an instance of their magic class and hand it to some "registrar" ?
18:02 <luke-jr> err, no :p
18:02 <luke-jr> an instance of a simple template that registers the static factory function
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18:34 <Durka> #hello
18:35 <@armabot> Hello Durka :) Quote #61: "<MrBougo> amragetron p2p client, with a game inside and both would interact: you get a better ratio when you kill people, stay in the zone to keep downloading! the first team who downloaded the whole film wins" (added by epsy at 03:39 PM, October 27, 2007)
18:35 <Durka> anybody home?
18:35 <Durka> again?
18:35 <Durka> :P
18:35 <BabyBug> Boo!
18:35 <ct|kyle> o0 Durka
18:36 <Durka> o0 ct|kyle
18:42 <noob13> !tea
18:42 <noob13> #tea
18:42 <@armabot> noob13: Fortress Café: Players (2/32): noob13, PlayerNuby
18:43 <ct|kyle> #rand D U R K A
18:46 <joda_bot> epsy: finished initial version of wiki page
18:46 <joda_bot> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Menu
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18:59 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r899 Using chatbot AI for defense bots now. Mixed results, tuning...
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19:19 <Durka> ct|kyle: ping
19:19 <ct|kyle> Durka: piong
19:20 <Durka> on
19:20 <ct|kyle> off
19:20 <Durka> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/
19:20 <Durka> how do i find the background grid image
19:20 <epsy> right click -> view background image
19:21 <Durka> huh?
19:22 <BabyBug> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/images/theme/wikibg.png
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19:22 <Durka> ahh shit
19:22 <Durka> i saw that
19:22 <Durka> just didnt click on it
19:23 <Durka> how can i make a much smaller version of that
19:23 <Durka> i wanna use that instead of http://durka.ath.cx/images/grind.png
19:23 <Durka> er, http://durka.ath.cx/images/grid.png
19:23 <ct|kyle> ask guru3 / wrtlprnft
19:24 <epsy> Durka, resize? start GIMP?
19:24 <Durka> http://www.shrinkpictures.com/processed/phpSTXJ8iPM.jpg
19:24 <Durka> sweet
19:25 <epsy> use a real image editor
19:25 <Durka> should i keep it as jpg tho?
19:25 <Durka> nowai
19:25 <Durka> fake ones ftw
19:25 <epsy> up to you
19:27 <Durka> epsy: it turned out nicely :P
19:27 <Durka> http://durka.ath.cx/
19:29 <luke-jr> hi Durka
19:30 <Durka> hi luke-jr
19:30 <luke-jr> Durka: do u want recognizers on ur server?
19:31 <Durka> what do u mean
19:31 <luke-jr> http://www.starshipmodeler.com/tech/ms_tron_recognizer08.jpg
19:31 <luke-jr> that guy coming and crushing random cycles
19:31 <luke-jr> instead of a death zone
19:32 <Durka> lol
19:32 <Durka> very funny
19:32 <luke-jr> requires 0.3.2+ for clients
19:32 <Durka> ...
19:32  * luke-jr is SO close to making it possible.
19:32 <luke-jr> I have flying zones already
19:32 <luke-jr> just need to get a 3DS model to replace the circle
19:33 <epsy> :-D
19:33 <BabyBug> can't you make a 3ds model?
19:33 <luke-jr> BabyBug: no, 3DS is proprietary
19:33 <luke-jr> but that's not the point
19:33 <luke-jr> the point is *rendering* the model
19:34 <epsy> yeah, this comes to an imortant point
19:34 <BabyBug> which is?!
19:34 <epsy> we will need a decent format for models
19:35  * cpayan nods
19:35 <luke-jr> epsy: model formats look simple, from a quick reading of r*.cpp
19:35 <luke-jr> I imagine a XML-based format wouldn't be too hard
19:35 <cpayan> i don't know much about the workings of arma yet but this stuff over models has come up over and over again the last few days
19:35 <epsy> luke-jr, it exists
19:35 <luke-jr> with a 3DS converter
19:35 <luke-jr> epsy: it does?
19:36 <epsy> and is supported by approximately 0 3D editor
19:36 <epsy> COLLADA
19:36 <luke-jr> I found a Recognizer 3DS on Google
19:36 <luke-jr> but it's not GPL compatible
19:36 <epsy> but still, I'm not really in favour of an XML format for models
19:36 <ct|kyle> that should come out on /admin kill/kick/ban
19:37 <luke-jr> epsy: fits better with resources?
19:37 <luke-jr> I mean, sure, we can easily make binary resources
19:37 <luke-jr> but then we can't do the nice metadata stuff
19:37 <luke-jr> not as easily anyhow
19:38 <BabyBug> easy isn't best! 8-)
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19:39 <epsy> luke-jr, we already have to make binary resources
19:40 <luke-jr> yes, for textures
19:40 <epsy> luke-jr, regarding metadata, I have an idea
19:40 <epsy> why not have "catalogs" of binary resources
19:40 <luke-jr> ?
19:40 <epsy> a reource that defines one ore more other resources
19:40 <luke-jr> the metadata is already in the filepath, technically
19:40 <epsy> well, we'll sure like to add more metadata
19:41 <luke-jr> the point of having it in the file itself is so it's harder to misplace it
19:41 <ct|kyle> CSS
19:41 <luke-jr> …
19:41 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: CSS is an entirely different matter
19:41 <luke-jr> one problem I've been pondering lately, tho:
19:42 <luke-jr> what image format supports multiple alpha channels?
19:42 <luke-jr> I think we need at least two
19:42 <luke-jr> one for object transparency
19:42 <luke-jr> and one for "object colour mix"
19:42 <dlh> tiff
19:42 <luke-jr> eg, to make green cycles green
19:42 <luke-jr> dlh: really?
19:42 <dlh> Yes
19:44 <epsy> isn't tiff bollocks to use?
19:44 <luke-jr> epsy: tiff.gz?
19:45 <luke-jr> failing that, is PNG extensible enough, I wonder?
19:46 <epsy> we could make XPNG!
19:46 <epsy> I wonder how inefficient would .xcf be
19:47 <cpayan> the gimp format?
19:48 <epsy> yes
19:48 <epsy> GIMP has a C exporter O_O
19:49 <epsy> also, TIFF doesn't want my additional channel
19:50 <epsy> so it would indeed only leave xcf :S
19:51 <epsy> we could also propose having these channels on another image
19:51 <cpayan> so we could make something in the gimp and have it running around on the grid without much hassle? :)
19:52 <epsy> because I don't really think we will like to be messing around with layers and stuff
19:52 <epsy> not too much hassle, except for us
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19:55 <epsy> dlh, luke-jr: feel good with abusing channels from other images?
19:55 <luke-jr> epsy: not really.
19:55 <luke-jr> I'd rather make the image 2x width and cut it in half
19:55 <luke-jr> or 2x height
19:56 <luke-jr> then overlay the two halves for 6 channels total
19:56 <luke-jr> 8*
19:56 <luke-jr> no idea what the extra 3 channels could be used for
19:57 <epsy> what if you have a texture that should mix colors of two teams? :)
19:57 <luke-jr> too much mixing destroys the colour IMO
19:57 <luke-jr> BUT
19:57 <luke-jr> you did bring up a possibility indirectly
19:57 <luke-jr> one additional channel would be invert-alpha mix
19:58 <epsy> not really for mixing all colors together :)
19:58 <epsy> I don't get it, care to explain?
19:58 <luke-jr> epsy: make a picture and invert it
19:59 <luke-jr> normal transparency just mixes the background
19:59 <epsy> color-wise?
19:59 <luke-jr> inverted transparency mixes the opposite of the background
19:59 <luke-jr> so if the BG is yellow, inverted is purple
19:59 <luke-jr> I think
19:59 <epsy> and then?
19:59 <luke-jr> ?
20:00 <luke-jr> mirror? :D
20:00 <epsy> O_o
20:01 <luke-jr> red, green, blue, transparent(alpha), invert transparent(red), mirror(green), object colour(blue), and inverted mirror(alpha)
20:02 <luke-jr> crap
20:02 <luke-jr> thought of another channel :x
20:02 <luke-jr> additive transparent
20:05 <luke-jr> image1: red, green, blue, transparent(alpha); image2: inverted transparent(red), mirror(green), object colour(blue), and additive transparent(alpha); image3: variable(red), inverted mirror(green), inverted object colour(blue), and additive inverted transparent(alpha)
20:05 <luke-jr> how do we store the image count metadata? XD
20:07 <luke-jr> well
20:08 <luke-jr> KolourPaint at least lets me give PNGs arbitrary metadata fields ;)
20:08 <luke-jr> we could just require metadata for more than 4 channels
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20:10 <Girlw221> WoW I just came from irc://irc.ninth-gate.org/projectw and they told me about you guys.. H
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20:11 <epsy> you really seem so interested
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20:12 <coldcrow> #tea
20:12 <@armabot> coldcrow: Fortress Café: Players (15/32): 33, <<~luAp~>>, CRaZy B3eR, CT~Voodoo (voodoo@forums), free kill (dlh@generalconsumption.org), Monkey.D.Luffy, Nikk¦A¦, nixie, pruWord (Word@forums), Revenge, rope, sithy, Vanhayes (Van-hayes@forums), waterglow, ~|DS|~|Alien|~
20:12 <coldcrow> woooooo
20:12 <Vanhayes> pong
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20:20 <luke-jr> epsy: dlh: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+spec/many-channel-textures
20:24 <joda_bot> luke-jr: why so many channels ?
20:25 <joda_bot> luke-jr: did my email arrive by now ?
20:25 <luke-jr> joda_bot: the main/original goal was the first 5
20:25 <luke-jr> joda_bot: i thin k so
20:25 <joda_bot> it's himmig something
20:25 <joda_bot> is object colour a channel
20:25 <joda_bot> ?
20:26 <luke-jr> it would be
20:26 <luke-jr> currently is for cycle textures
20:27 <luke-jr> what I wonder is how we will represent moving models
20:28 <luke-jr> for example, the cycles we have right now actually have moving wheels
20:28 <joda_bot> luke-jr: that's not part of the textures though ?
20:29 <luke-jr> no, the movement is currently hard coded
20:29 <joda_bot> and only works for non-moviepack cycle ... I know
20:31 <BabyBug> zman lies! fortress ai so doesn't grind! :@
20:32 <luke-jr> BabyBug: neither do you!
20:32 <joda_bot> luke-jr: hm, perhaps we can use MD3 or MD5 keyframe animations for that
20:32 <BabyBug> well that all depends on what i meant to be grinding 8-)
20:32 <joda_bot> if we find a nice lib for that, we'd might also add a lobby room with md3 characters later :D
20:33 <luke-jr> joda_bot: or MNG? :o
20:33 <joda_bot> mng ?
20:33 <luke-jr> but then each frame needs prerendering
20:33 <luke-jr> MNG is animated PNG
20:33 <joda_bot> ...
20:34 <joda_bot> no, I'd want polygon animated cycles :D
20:34 <joda_bot> with drivers turning their heads :D
20:34 <luke-jr> so you want animated models
20:34 <luke-jr> not animated textures ☹)
20:34 <luke-jr> ☺
20:36 <joda_bot> hm, how about: http://assimp.sourceforge.net/main_features.html
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22:57 <cpayan> Hibernate does not seem to work worth a damn on my laptop
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22:59 <epsy> hi
23:00 <luke-jr> cpayan: hibernate never works worth a crap
23:00 <cpayan> Too bad, it's a good idea
23:01 <cpayan> I think this might be my laptop's fault though. The latch is loose.
23:06 <epsy> weeee, TV works on my new line, finally :>
23:06 <epsy> we can scrap the old line
23:11 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r901 A lone defending AI will not switch to attack and back to de... || [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r900 Leakfix....
23:14 <cpayan> Does anyone know where I can look up free wifi hotspots? Is there a source for this kind of thing?
23:16 <epsy> @gtfy free wifi hotspots
23:16 <teabot> free: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=wifi%20hotspots
23:16 <epsy> @gtfy cpayan free wifi hotspots
23:16 <teabot> cpayan: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=free%20wifi%20hotspots
23:16 <cpayan> heh
23:17 <epsy> :>
23:17 <cpayan> class, pure class, epsy
23:17 <epsy> I gotta agree
23:17 <cpayan> Also. I googled it six ways to sunday and was hoping maybe someone already knew a wifi hotspotsearcher I hadn't found yet
23:17 <cpayan> so thanks. thanks for nothing
23:17 <cpayan> blah
23:18 <cpayan> :)
23:18 <epsy> what's the first link for, then?
23:19 <cpayan> ...
23:19 <epsy> is it irrelevant?
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23:40 <Lackadaisical> guru3: are PMs on the forums automatically deleted after some time?
23:42 <madmax> #tea
23:42 <@armabot> madmax: Fortress Café: Players (10/32): .dBd|Pathetique, 2020, DatSunny, Hedera, M.C, noobSaibot, `Ww Pushin, |x|Cid, ~|DS|~|JS|~, °höMö
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23:48 <guru3> Lackadaisical: I don't think so, but I know the inbox will never store more than 50 messages. (Old ones either get deleted or just aren't accessible anymore.)
23:49 <ivantis2> Pathetique???
23:49 <ivantis2> is on?
23:49 <coldcrow> #tea
23:49 <@armabot> coldcrow: Fortress Café: Players (12/32): .dBd|Pathetique, 2020, DatSunny, Hedera, Lackadaisical, madmax, myte, noob13, noobSaibot, Radian, |x|Cid, °höMö
23:50 <ivantis2> #sd -v fortress caf
23:50 <@armabot> ivantis2: Fortress Café (armagetron.at:4539) running 0.2.8_alpha20090228 unix dedicated, url: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/, Description: “This is a fortress server. Expect to be kicked if you don't know how to play. To learn how to play try http://wiki.armagetronad.net/“, Players (12/32): .dBd|Pathetique, 2020, DatSunny, Hedera, Lackadaisical, madmax, myte, noob13, noobSaibot, Radian, |x|Cid, (1 more message)
23:50 <Lackadaisical> ah ok thanks.. i couldn't find one and i was starting to  doubt if i ever sent it
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Log from 2009-03-06:
--- Day changed Fri Mar 06 2009
00:03 -!- nsh22 [n=neal@unaffiliated/nsh22] has joined #armagetron
00:03 <nsh22> hey hey hey
00:09 <ivantis2> faat albert
00:10 <ivantis2> #ls ntp
00:10 <@armabot> ivantis2: timed out
00:10 <ivantis2> #ls ivantis
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00:10 <@armabot> ivantis2: ivantis has last been seen on Fortress Café 15 minutes ago.
00:10 <nsh22> #ls neal
00:11 <@armabot> nsh22: timed out
00:11 <nsh22> #weather innisfil
00:11 <@armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Innisfil, Innisfil, Ontario is 37.4°F (6:11 PM EST on March 05, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: 12.2°F. Windchill: 33.8°F. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Falling).
00:11 <nsh22> #ping
00:11 <@armabot> pong
00:12 <animuson> #weather 68138
00:12 <@armabot> animuson: The current temperature in Chalco Hills Rec Area, Omaha, Nebraska is 66.0°F (5:12 PM CST on March 05, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 46.4°F. Pressure: 29.53 in 999.9 hPa (Rising).
00:13 <ivantis2> #weather 66044
00:14 <@armabot> ivantis2: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 82.0°F (5:13 PM CST on March 05, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 26%. Dew Point: 44.6°F. Pressure: 29.58 in 1001.6 hPa (Steady).
00:14 <animuson> hey ivantis :)
00:14 <ivantis2> hey
00:14 <animuson> i was actually here to look for u but i forgot
00:14 <animuson> XD
00:14 <ivantis2> argh what am i doing?
00:14 <ivantis2> i need to get back to work
00:14 <ivantis2> but what did you want?
00:14 <animuson> is there a patch-type file that contains all the changes made by ur patch?
00:15 <ivantis2> you could generate one i suppose
00:15 <ivantis2> i dont have one
00:15 <animuson> are all the changes just in gWinZone.cpp and .h?
00:15 <ivantis2> no, many other files
00:15 <animuson> hmmm
00:16 <animuson> ill just install my stuff into ur version :P
00:16 <ivantis2> deep, deep in XML parsing, ePlayer.*, some other files too
00:16 <animuson> itd be easier
00:16 <animuson> do ur mods change anything or just add stuff?
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00:17 <ivantis2> both
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00:19 <animuson> hey smoothice :)
00:19 <smoothice> hi
00:19 <ivantis2> hey smoothice
00:19 <nsh22> hiya smotth
00:19 <smoothice> lol hi
00:19  * nsh22 is away: 
00:19 <ivantis2> before i get asked any more questions, i need to get back to work though
00:19 <animuson> ur presence does not go unnoticed :P
00:19 <smoothice> lol
00:20 <animuson> occasionally
00:20 <animuson> ^_^
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00:21 <animuson> how do i copy files?
00:21 <smoothice> cp?
00:21 <ivantis2> that was the most vague question i have ever been asked
00:22 <animuson> lol
00:22 <animuson> cp "file path" "new file path"?
00:22 <ivantis2> yeah
00:22 <smoothice> #m epsy who the frick cares if you don't support CTF. It would just be a fun new project... -.-
00:22  * nsh22 is back (gone 00:02:51)
00:22 <@armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
00:22 <ivantis2> or scp
00:23 <ivantis2> scp [user][@host:]file [user][@host:]destination
00:23 <smoothice> scp is for nerds or cannot use SSH
00:23 <smoothice> who*
00:23 <ivantis2> wtf?
00:24 <ivantis2> scp runs over ssh
00:24 <nsh22> i run tyuou over
00:24 <ivantis2> and how would ssh replace scp?
00:24 <ivantis2> scp ivantis@somewhere ./
00:24 <ivantis2> scp ivantis@somewhere:/blah/blah ./
00:25 <ivantis2> how else would you get it?
00:25 <madmax> you setup a web server through ssh haha
00:25 <ivantis2> stuff in braces is optional
00:25 <ivantis2> then invent some new protocol?
00:26 <ivantis2> sfcphttpshhbbqp
00:26 <nsh22> smoothice: your losing the arguement :P
00:27 <ivantis2> dah! im doing it again!
00:28 <ivantis2> someone ban me so that i can work
00:28 <ivantis2> this project is due in a few days
00:28 <smoothice> umm
00:29 <smoothice> #ban ivantis2
00:29 <nsh22> #poll ivantis2
00:29 <ivantis2> #r
00:29 <ivantis2> dead?
00:29 <ivantis2> #ping
00:29 <@armabot> pong
00:29 <ivantis2> #roulette
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00:29  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
00:30 <nsh22> smoothice: nw df is pretty popular :P
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00:30 <smoothice> nsh22: yep
00:30 <nsh22> hey, where would i put the command for spwainging zones
00:30 <smoothice> ?
00:30 <nsh22> settings_custom?
00:31 <smoothice> wait
00:31 <smoothice> spawning zones for each round?
00:31 <nsh22> yes
00:31 <smoothice> you have to use php for that
00:31 <nsh22> ...
00:31 <nsh22> what about random spawning zones?
00:31 <coldcrow> #tea
00:31 <smoothice> you have to use php for that too
00:32 -!- coldcrow is now known as akira_arma
00:32 <CruZ> hey, does anybody know how to add a ban manually by editing the bans.txt ?
00:32 <@armabot> coldcrow: Fortress Café: Players (14/32): 2020, Durka skipdef© (DDMJ@forums), Gusbo T Jam esq, hand, Hedera, Hera, Lackadaisical, madmax (madmax@forums), man2d, noob13, noob44, pavelo (pavelo@forums), poop, vol
00:32 <nsh22> ok, how would i use php for it (i.e. what files)
00:32 <CruZ> one line - one ip ?
00:32 <smoothice> CruZ: you have to specify a time too...
00:32 <smoothice> CruZ: try banning yourself to see what the format is
00:33 <CruZ> so for example: 99999
00:33 <smoothice> nsh22: you have to get luke-jr to enable a php parser for you
00:33 <smoothice> CruZ: I'd say so
00:33 <CruZ> ok
00:33 <CruZ> thx
00:33 <smoothice> k
00:33 <nsh22> sdoesnt ct+sty come with one?
00:34 <smoothice> sty+ct has not one line of PHP code in it
00:34 <smoothice> all sty+ct does is add more stuff the ladderlog and add some extra commands here and there
00:34 <smoothice> the ladderlog stuff is very powerful
00:34 <smoothice> but is not php
00:34 <smoothice> the php parser parses the ladderlog and sends output through stdout to arma itself
00:35 <animuson> it doesnt let me bzr ivantis' arma-hacks -> http://pastebin.com/m3883b6eb
00:35 <smoothice> meh
00:35 <smoothice> that branch is old and crappy
00:35 <smoothice> oooh
00:35 <smoothice> bzr error
00:35 <smoothice> animuson: bzr --version
00:35 <smoothice> what version of bzr?
00:36 <animuson> 1.3.1
00:36 <smoothice> the newst is like 1.12
00:36 <animuson> :P
00:36 <nsh22> luke-jr: do you have a php parser for your servers?
00:36 <smoothice> nsh22: you have to write them yourself... and you have to decide what you want it to do
00:36 <nsh22> o0
00:37 <smoothice> I could do it for you
00:37 <smoothice> lol
00:37 <animuson> how do i upgrade it?
00:37 <smoothice> what OS is ur vps running
00:37 <animuson> ubuntu
00:37 <smoothice> ubuntu x.xx?
00:38 <animuson> 8.something
00:38 <nsh22> queston where is users.cfg
00:38 <smoothice> ???
00:39 <animuson> 8.04 :P
00:40 <smoothice> get 8.10
00:40 <smoothice> google it
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00:40 <luke-jr> nsh22: service bots are supported, yes
00:40 <luke-jr> nsh22: though Perl > PHP
00:40 <smoothice> ...
00:40 <smoothice> perl is crap in a hole
00:40 <luke-jr> nsh22: your current one is BASH
00:40 <nsh22> luke-jr: but i have to have my own?
00:40 <luke-jr> PHP is crap :p
00:40 <smoothice> perl is SH --- IT
00:40 <luke-jr> nsh22: the map rotator is a BASH one
00:41 <luke-jr> smoothice: shows that you know nothing of Perl ☺
00:41 <smoothice> I do.. but not the inner workings of it
00:41 <nsh22> luke-jr: what i want to do is zone spawning
00:41 <luke-jr> nobody who knows Perl hates it :p
00:41 <nsh22> my server just dieded
00:41 <smoothice> crash
00:41 <luke-jr> nsh22: O.o
00:41 <animuson> theres not an easy way to upgrade it?
00:41 <smoothice> apt-get dist-upgrade
00:41 <smoothice> butp
00:41 <smoothice> but
00:41 <smoothice> run these first
00:42 <smoothice> apt-get update
00:42 <smoothice> apt-get upgrade
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00:42 <smoothice> apt-get dist-upgrade
00:42 <animuson> i just did
00:42 <smoothice> all of those?
00:42 <luke-jr> eating supper, bbiab
00:42 <smoothice> ...
00:42 <smoothice> k
00:42 <luke-jr> animuson: btw, smoothice is giving anicent directions
00:42 <smoothice> screw you luke-jr :P
00:42 <smoothice> those aren't ancient
00:42 <luke-jr> animuson: put 'aptitude' instead of 'apt-get'
00:42 <luke-jr> apt-get is obsolete
00:42 <smoothice> ...
00:42 <smoothice> so?
00:42 <animuson> it upgrade proftpd :-/
00:42 <animuson> lol
00:42 <luke-jr> and using it can be destructive
00:42 <luke-jr> animuson: I'd uninstall proftpd; FTP is a security hole
00:43 <luke-jr> anyhow, eating supper, bbiab
00:43 <nsh22> luke-jr: what should i use for a zone spawner?
00:43 <smoothice> php
00:43 <smoothice> nsh22: use php and tell luke-jr to shut up :D
00:43 <luke-jr> nsh22: Perl or BASH, depending on complexity
00:43 <smoothice> wait
00:43 <smoothice> nsh22 is paying luke-jr
00:43 <smoothice> not vice versa
00:43 <smoothice> so nsh22 can do whatever he wants
00:43 <smoothice> nsh22: use php
00:43 <luke-jr> nsh22: PHP is designed for webpages and doesn't work well for anything else
00:43 <luke-jr> nsh22: PHP is also a memory hog
00:43 <smoothice> nsh22: incorrect
00:43 <smoothice> nsh22: x2
00:43 <nsh22> sry smooth but he has more experiance on these things :P
00:43 <smoothice> says who?
00:43 <luke-jr> smoothice: Sty v2 working yet?
00:43 <luke-jr> kthx
00:44 <smoothice> ....
00:44 <luke-jr> ☺
00:44 <smoothice> that's C++ dummy
00:44 <smoothice> DIFFERENT!
00:44 <luke-jr> it's programming
00:44 <luke-jr> now, I really should go eat my supper
00:44 <luke-jr> it's getting cold
00:44 <smoothice> nah
00:44 <luke-jr> bbiab
00:44 <smoothice> so/
00:44 <smoothice> so what about your stupid dinner?
00:47 -!- coldcrow is now known as akira_arma
00:47 <animuson> when i try to install bzr is stops and says bzr is already the newest version
00:47 <animuson> :-/
00:47 <smoothice> ...
00:47 <smoothice> for 8.04?
00:47 <luke-jr> so why do you think you dont have it?
00:47 <smoothice> ?
00:52 <smoothice> #cfg2 ladderlog_write_
00:52 <smoothice> nsh22: these are all the things the script can respond to
00:52 <@armabot> smoothice: LADDERLOG_WRITE_ADMIN_COMMAND: ladderlog_write_admin_command_help(Default: 0 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_ADMIN_LOGIN: ladderlog_write_admin_login_help(Default: 0 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_ADMIN_LOGOUT: ladderlog_write_admin_logout_help(Default: 0 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_ALL: Set all the LADDER_LOG_WRITE_* settings to the same value || LADDERLOG_WRITE_AUTHORITY_BLURB: Write to ladderlog: (11 more messages)
00:52 <smoothice> #more
00:52 <@armabot> smoothice: AUTHORITY_BLURB (Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_BALL_VANISH: ladderlog_write_ball_vanish_help(Default: 0 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_BASEZONE_CONQUERED: Write to ladderlog: BASEZONE_CONQUERED (Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_BASEZONE_CONQUERER: Write to ladderlog: BASEZONE_CONQUERER (Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_BASEZONE_CONQUERER_TEAM: ladderlog_write_basezone_conquerer_team_help(Default: (10 more messages)
00:52 <smoothice> #more
00:52 <@armabot> smoothice: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_CHAT: Write to ladderlog: CHAT [/me] (Default: 0 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_COMMAND: Write to ladderlog: COMMAND (Default: 0 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_DEATH_BASEZONE_CONQUERED: ladderlog_write_death_basezone_conquered_help(Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_DEATH_DEATHZONE: ladderlog_write_death_deathzone_help(Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_DEATH_FRAG: Write to ladderlog: (9 more messages)
00:52 <smoothice> #more
00:52 <@armabot> smoothice: DEATH_FRAG (Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_DEATH_RUBBERZONE: ladderlog_write_death_rubberzone_help(Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_DEATH_SHOT_FRAG: ladderlog_write_death_shot_frag_help(Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_DEATH_SHOT_SUICIDE: ladderlog_write_death_shot_suicide_help(Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_DEATH_SHOT_TEAMKILL: ladderlog_write_death_shot_teamkill_help(Default: 1 ) || (8 more messages)
00:52 <nsh22> im actually editing some of those on my server...
00:52 <nsh22> ladderlog_write_admin stuff
00:52 <smoothice> yeah
00:53 <smoothice> #cfg2 ladderlog_write_round
00:53 <@armabot> smoothice: LADDERLOG_WRITE_ROUND_COMMENCING: ladderlog_write_round_commencing_help(Default: 0 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_ROUND_SCORE: Write to ladderlog: ROUND_SCORE [](Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_ROUND_SCORE_TEAM: Write to ladderlog: ROUND_SCORE_TEAM (Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_ROUND_WINNER: Write to ladderlog: ROUND_WINNER (Default: 1 )
00:53 <nsh22> ladderlog_write_all 1
00:53 <nsh22> s:)
00:54 <smoothice> k
00:54 <smoothice> just as well
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01:01 <animuson> where are the access level names stored? like user_level 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 etc
01:04 <nsh22> setting_authentication
01:04 <nsh22> under config
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01:06 <animuson> thats just all the auth settings
01:07 <animuson> i want to change the names for the user levels
01:08 <nsh22> it should be there,
01:08 <smoothice> animuson: set all ur settings in settings_custon
01:09 <smoothice> settings_custom... don't bother with the rest of the files
01:09 <animuson> nvm i found it
01:09 <animuson> its in language/english_base_notranslate.txt
01:10 <smoothice> oh
01:10 <smoothice> I get what you’re saying
01:10 <nsh22> no
01:10 <smoothice> nevermind
01:10 <nsh22> http://rafb.net/p/Jthzl054.html
01:10 <nsh22> i think you just change those names
01:10 <smoothice> nope
01:10 <smoothice> they're in the language file
01:10 <nsh22> ...
01:10 <smoothice> that file
01:10 <smoothice> is just comments
01:11 <nsh22> damn
01:13 <nsh22> smooth, some ppl want some settings changed in df, can i do it?
01:13 <smoothice> what settings
01:14 <nsh22> rubber
01:14 <nsh22> they want it increased
01:14 <smoothice> 2009/03/06-00:13:26 CHAT purple neal change rubber to a littel more plz .can u ????
01:14 <smoothice> umm
01:14 <smoothice> there's plenty of rubber already...
01:14 <smoothice> more rubber is for noobs lol
01:14 <smoothice> I mean
01:14 <smoothice> go ahead and do whatever
01:14 <smoothice> but
01:14 <smoothice> once I restart it
01:14 <smoothice> It'll be back to NW df config
01:14 <nsh22> ok :P ty
01:19 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r903 Fixed grind and split a bit.... || [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r902 Taught them not to do a couple of stupid things....
01:28 <animuson> how can i echo a command to the console from the source code?
01:31 <smoothice> animuson: sn_ConsoleOut?
01:31 <smoothice> question mark accidental)
01:36 <nsh22> smoothice: forums not working?
01:36 <smoothice> ???
01:36 <nsh22> try to get on our forums
01:38 <animuson> how can i echo it as a command that needs to be run tho?
01:39 <cpayan> Seriously, what are you supposed to do when it seems like five desktops just isn't enough on your computer?
01:45 <cpayan> aren't*
01:45 <smoothice> animuson: In c++?
01:47 <animuson> whatever language arma uses
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01:52 <neal_arma> any1 care to kick nsh22 for me?
01:53 <animuson> is the default rgb for a deathzone 25 0 0?
01:54 <smoothice> 15 0 0
01:54 <smoothice> or in C++
01:54 <smoothice> 1.0f 0.0f 0.0f
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02:01 <ct|kyle> #m epsy I think you should add a client side colour string filter
02:01 <@armabot> ct|kyle: The operation succeeded.
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02:01 <neal_arma> wewt
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02:01 <ct|kyle> heh
02:02 <nsh22> my internet stopped working randomly so i had to restart comp
02:02 <ct|kyle> mine goes out about 1 time each day
02:02 <nsh22> ew
02:02 <ct|kyle> and it is wired
02:02 <nsh22> miunes about 1nce a month, if that
02:02 <nsh22> wired as well
02:03 <ct|kyle> but only for about 5-10 seconds
02:03 <smoothice> ct
02:03 <smoothice> ct|kyle: you have verizon dsl
02:03 <smoothice> ct|kyle: which is epic fail
02:03 <ct|kyle> smoothice: yes but really the only thing in the area
02:03 <smoothice> get FiOS?
02:04 <ct|kyle> it takes forever to get parents to switch
02:04 <smoothice> oh lol
02:04 <smoothice> what speed dls?
02:04 <smoothice> dsl
02:04 <ct|kyle> it took me 2-3 years just for them to switch to DSL from AOL
02:04 <ct|kyle> I get about 3.5 up and 1 down
02:05 <smoothice> I get 12 down and 768 up :D
02:05 <smoothice> I love fttn :P
02:05 <ct|kyle> heh
02:05 <smoothice> #g fttn
02:05 <@armabot> smoothice: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
02:05 <smoothice> #google fttn
02:05 <smoothice> @g fttn
02:05 <@armabot> smoothice: Search took 0.12 seconds: Fiber to the x - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FTTH>; FTTN Definition - PC Magazine: <http://www.pcmag.com/encyclopedia_term/0,2542,t=FTTN&i=43550,00.asp>; Light Reading - Broadband - AT&T: We're Sticking With FTTN - Telecom: <http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=107939>; Lightwave - FTTN : The 'other' fiber (3 more messages)
02:05 <teabot> smoothice: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FTTH - Fiber to the x - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
02:05 <ct|kyle> Fios to the neeiborhood
02:06 <smoothice> fiber
02:06 <smoothice> fiber to the neighboord
02:06 <smoothice> lol
02:06 <ct|kyle> actually we have it to the boxes next to ours just not from the ones next to our to ours
02:07 <smoothice> english please?
02:07 <smoothice> lol
02:07 <ct|kyle> they cut our line when the put it in
02:07 <smoothice> fail?
02:07 <ct|kyle> they put fios to the boxes on each side of ours
02:07 <nsh22> haha
02:07 <nsh22> sucks
02:07 <ct|kyle> but never ran it from those boxes to ours
02:07 <nsh22> EPIC FAIL
02:08 <smoothice> fail....
02:08 <smoothice> ll
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02:25 <smoothice> #m z-man the fortress AI bot dies after about 20 seconds on the grid in its zone :D
02:25 <@armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
02:26 <luke-jr> hm
02:26 <smoothice> ?
02:27 <smoothice> lol
02:27 <smoothice> hm = ?
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02:31 <luke-jr> grr, why is [eg]Floor not a netobject ☹
02:33 <nsh22> i dont knowq luke, why isnt it?
02:40  * nsh22 is so happy
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03:01 <ct|kyle> oi sinewav
03:02 <sinewav> hey man, what's up?
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03:06 <ct|kyle> not too much
03:07 <sinewav> yeah, me either. Workin' a lot, which is good.
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03:16 <smoothice> luke-jr, ct|kyle: FYI, the new Fortress AI is sooo freaking cool!
03:17 <luke-jr> good for you
03:17 <luke-jr> don't highlight me for no reason
03:17 <ct|kyle> ok luke-jr :P
03:17 <smoothice> luke-jr: just telling you it's cool!
03:18 <ct|kyle> smoothice: I still gotta try it, is it in 0.2.8 or 0.3.*
03:18 <smoothice> 0.3
03:18 <smoothice> I have a server up
03:18 <smoothice> wanna see?
03:18 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: everything is 0.3.*
03:18 <smoothice> hey
03:18 <smoothice> don't highlight for no reason
03:18 <ct|kyle> smoothice: how is the flag zone
03:18 <smoothice> ct|kyle: It won't do anything
03:19 <smoothice> and I cannot figure out why
03:19 <ct|kyle> probably because you need the last 2 lines of zfoirtress.h in zFlag.h (I think)
03:19 <smoothice> ok
03:19 <ct|kyle> zFortress.h*
03:24 <smoothice> ct|kyle: cool, eh?
03:24 <ct|kyle> except for the bug
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03:44 <luke-jr> smoothice: guess what I was workign on
03:49 <smoothice> luke-jr: zv2sty?
03:49 <luke-jr> no
03:49 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: is it what your brought up earlier
03:49 <luke-jr> ?
03:50 <smoothice> luke-jr: fort ai?
03:50 <luke-jr> no
03:50 <ct|kyle> the recognizers
03:50 <luke-jr> not quite
03:50 <luke-jr> I think that's over my head
03:50 <ct|kyle> the modoling stuff for them :P
03:51 <luke-jr> I think that's over my head
03:51 <ct|kyle> then wtf are you working on
03:51 <ct|kyle> rthe cube
03:51 <luke-jr> figure it out
03:51 <ct|kyle> 3d
03:51 <luke-jr> try again
03:52 <smoothice> tell us luke-jr
03:52 <luke-jr> figure it out :p
03:52 <ct|kyle> flying zones
03:52 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: that's been done for days
03:52 <ct|kyle> 3d zones
03:52 <luke-jr> …
03:53 <ct|kyle> ok just tell us
03:53 <smoothice> luke-jr: working on your attitude?
03:53 <smoothice> lol
03:53 <luke-jr> check LP
03:53 <smoothice> map-floor-texture?
03:53 <luke-jr> :p
03:53 <smoothice> why do we care?
03:54 <ct|kyle> could be cool to package a floor texture with a map
03:54 <luke-jr> like the new fort texture
03:54 <ct|kyle> or sinewav's ctf one
03:55 <ct|kyle> or the styball one
03:55 <ct|kyle> along with ram walls
03:56 <smoothice> ct|kyle: what did you say I needed from zFortress.h? REAL lastSync_?
03:56 <ct|kyle> I think so
03:56 <smoothice> ummm
03:56 <smoothice> why does that matter?
03:57 <ct|kyle> I was actually just taking a look at the code now LOL
03:57 <smoothice> I hope we can get this fixed...
03:58 <luke-jr> smoothice: remember, I expect something like sty to take a few rewrites before it works well
03:58 <luke-jr> so don't get discouraged!
03:58 <smoothice> ok
03:58 <smoothice> I'm just kinda feeling like a fail
03:58 <smoothice> since I cannot figure out why the zone doesn't respond
04:01 <luke-jr> smoothice: think of how I just started 2 or 3 goals that I'm stuck on ☺
04:01 <smoothice> lol
04:01 <smoothice> but
04:01 <smoothice> the thing is
04:01 <smoothice> if you just looked at my code for a brief moment
04:01 <smoothice> you'd probably figure it out
04:02 <ct|kyle> that is all I've done also
04:03 <ct|kyle> I really should start a sty zones v2 testing server
04:03 <smoothice> it doesn't even work yet
04:03 <smoothice> -.-
04:03 <smoothice> the frickin zone doesn't respond!
04:03 <ct|kyle> ya less work for me to do in the long run
04:04 <smoothice> luke-jr: can you glance at the code for a moment again? if it makes you feel superior I'm a dumbass
04:04 <luke-jr> lolwut
04:04 <luke-jr> busy
04:04 <smoothice> again? :(
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04:05 <luke-jr> yeh
04:05 <luke-jr> playing glob2
04:05 <smoothice> :'(
04:05 <smoothice> dude
04:05 <smoothice> you say you'd mentor me through this process
04:05 <smoothice> said*
04:05 <luke-jr> yeh
04:05 <luke-jr> not 24/7 tho
04:05 <ct|kyle> is onInside the new onentry
04:05 <luke-jr> no
04:05 <ct|kyle> er OnEnter?
04:05 <luke-jr> they are different funcs
04:06 <luke-jr> yeah
04:06 <luke-jr> OnEnter -> OnInside
04:06 <ct|kyle> ok
04:06 <smoothice> luke-jr: well when are you available?
04:06 <ct|kyle> I think I know problem number 1
04:06 <smoothice> :D!!!!
04:06 <ct|kyle> wait nm
04:06 <smoothice> :(!!!
04:06 <smoothice> :(
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04:10 <ct|kyle> wow, I think I've used too much python lately I wanted to put a # as a comment
04:10 <smoothice> any luck ct|kyle?
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04:24 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-map-floor-texture] r891 not quite working map floor texture support
04:46 <smoothice> luke-jr: http://rafb.net/p/27gsq964.html
04:47 <smoothice> luke-jr: that's on bootstrap.sh run
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05:02 <sinewav> anyone for CTF with fort physics?
05:04 <ct|kyle> sinewav: can you send me that config :)
05:05 <ct|kyle> it would be a nice test map/settings
05:07 <sinewav> which one? flag fort?
05:07 <ct|kyle> ya
05:08 <sinewav> lemme look fer it.
05:09 <ct|kyle> sinewav: nevermind
05:09 <sinewav> wha.
05:09 <ct|kyle> sinewav: I found e-mail from before
05:09 <sinewav> kk
05:10 <sinewav> Imma post it on the forums anyway. just in case I lose it.
05:10 <ct|kyle> want me to just send it back to you
05:13 <sinewav> too late!
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07:15 <cpayan> I must declare, Zombie-enabled sumo is pretty neat
07:15 <cpayan> I don't think control of the zombie would really gain anything
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07:41 <Lucifer> anybody know a food that starts with d?
07:41 <Lucifer> besides "dead meat"
07:42 <cpayan> duck
07:43 <mkzelda> dick
07:43 <cpayan> classy
07:43 <mkzelda> http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080109194130AAm6Myq
07:45 <Lucifer> duck!  Why didn't I think of that
07:45 <mkzelda> b/c you were busy thinking about dick? :D
07:45 <Lucifer> I put Dried beef
07:47 <Red_Pachel[home]> dumplings!
07:48 <Lucifer> I'm getting hungry reading that thread, I need to cook dinner soon
07:48  * Lucifer wonders what he's going to eat tonight, since he just went grocery shopping
07:49 <Red_Pachel[home]> i suppose that's better than wonder what to eat since you HAVENT been grocery shopping
07:51 <Lucifer> that's right, keep looking on the bright side
07:51 <Lucifer> I think I'll do a little stir-fry with chicken, jalapenos, and green chiles
07:51 <Lucifer> I just have to debone chicken for that :)
07:52  * Lucifer got thighs at 0.99/lb
07:52 <Lucifer> but it means I have to debone them every time I use them, because I cook and eat primarily chinese stir-fry
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15:30 <smoothice> ct|kyle: you didn't push the color fix yet?
15:30 <smoothice> ct|kyle: now you did as of two seconds ago :)
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15:53 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r875 Making colors work
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16:29 <z-man> Hahaha. Only server not available with Global Players OLD SCHOOL SERVER.
16:29 <BabyBug>  z-man, is that fortress ai branch meant to work atm? =x
16:30 <z-man> Depends how you define 'work'.
16:30 <z-man> It compiles, and the bots don't suicide for a couple of seconds.
16:30 <guru3> i don't want to change
16:30 <z-man> I realized I need a better AI framework in general, so I'm building that.
16:31 <BabyBug> they suicide straight away here, heh =x
16:31 <guru3> i know where everything is on the forums
16:31 <guru3> i don't want to move things and delete things
16:31 <z-man> BabyBug: they do?
16:31 <BabyBug> who said about moving things?
16:31 <z-man> All those
16:31 <z-man> few words per line
16:31 <BabyBug> z-man, in a team of 8, about 3 suicide at the start
16:31 <z-man> community building
16:31 <z-man> tossers.
16:31 <BabyBug> and none of em grind :(
16:32 <z-man> Really? They should.
16:32 <z-man> Are you up to date?
16:32  * z-man wonders whether he pushed last night's work
16:32 <dlh> z-man: http://rafb.net/p/cn8NBr47.html ← won't that just make the bot turn right into itself?
16:32 <BabyBug> well, position 2 and 3 turn around and grind backwards =x
16:32 <BabyBug> yup i'm up to date
16:32 <z-man> ah, then I forgot to push something up. I fixed that.
16:32 <guru3> i'd be willing to update to phpbb3
16:33 <z-man> dlh: yes ;) but the next AI step will correct it.
16:33 <z-man> (but I'm going to remove it anyway.)
16:33 <guru3> and the background colors do NOT change
16:33 <guru3> i GUARENTEE it
16:33 <BabyBug> guru3, talk sense! =P
16:33 <guru3> first, there are no background colors
16:34 <guru3> " On each page, the colors change, the fonts change, the backgrounds chang"
16:34 <guru3> maybe on each site
16:34 <guru3> each page across each site is identical though
16:35 <guru3> and this may be biased, but there'll be links to facebook and twitter over my dead body
16:35 <z-man> \o/
16:36 <z-man> We should totally get a myspace profile.
16:36 <guru3> no myspace either
16:36 <guru3> a friend of mine mentioned an opensource twitter like app
16:36 <guru3> i might be convinced to set something up with that
16:36 <guru3> same with jabber
16:37 <z-man> For such a youg guy, you're incredibly old and grumpy :)
16:37 <guru3> i don't approve of social networking sites
16:37 <guru3> RAWR
16:38 <z-man> (but yeah, I'd rather be without facestalk and twitter and blogs, while we're at it.)
16:38 <guru3> motion carried then
16:38 <guru3> (except for the blog bit)
16:38 <guru3> (that may actually be a good idea)
16:38 <z-man> It depends. I'm kind of reading all of the forums as blogs, partly.
16:39  * z-man heavily uses the 'view unread posts' page.
16:39 <guru3> i only use that -_-
16:39 <guru3> that's why it's at the top
16:39 <z-man> But that feature requires you to have an account.
16:39 <guru3> right above logout
16:39 <guru3> there are a lot of accounts that have 0 posts and don't appear to be spammers
16:40 <z-man> Yeah, I do that on other forums at times, too: get an account just so I can use the 'what's new' search.
16:40 <z-man> phpbb can publish RSS feeds of subforums, I think.
16:40 <guru3> i don't think our phpbb can
16:41 <guru3> really should upgrade to phpbb3
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16:48 <BabyBug> Why haven't you?
16:48 <guru3> template :/
16:49 <BabyBug> phpbb3 looks nice at it is :@ =x
16:49 <guru3> me wants armagetron theme
16:50 <BabyBug> an arma banner isn't enough? =P
16:50 <guru3> it was back in the day
16:50 <guru3> i could bring it back
16:50 <guru3> but it does look a bit shit
16:50 <guru3> let me find it
16:51 <BabyBug> =)
16:51 <guru3> if i can -_-
16:51 <BabyBug> =.=
16:51 <guru3> where would it have gotten to i wonder...
16:53 <guru3> actually
16:53 <BabyBug> men suck at organizing...
16:53 <guru3> this looks even worse than i remember
16:54 <BabyBug> link?
16:54 <guru3> http://guru3.net/temp/aflogo3.gif
16:55 <BabyBug> wtf? lol
16:55 <guru3> that whent in place of the phpbb logo
16:55 <guru3> made with redhat 9
16:55 <guru3> back when i was still really learning linux
16:55 <guru3> and before armagetron advanced
16:55 <BabyBug> Defiantly seen better... =x But why don't you see make a phpbb3 template then?
16:56 <guru3> i don't think z-man even ever saw that
16:56 <guru3> i don't know how
16:56 <BabyBug> oh..
16:56 <guru3> i didn't make the template we use
16:56 <guru3> i prettu much suck i pretty much suck at design, if you didn't notice already ;)
16:56 <guru3> *pretty
16:56 <guru3> we're pretty unique as a community
16:57 <BabyBug> who did the template you use now? =)
16:57 <guru3> says at the bottom
16:57 <guru3> lackadaisical
16:57 <BabyBug> oo
16:57 <BabyBug> poke him to make a new one ^^
16:57 <guru3> need to make sure it's possible to upgrade to phpbb3 first
16:58 <BabyBug> why wouldn't it be?
16:58 <guru3> we do have phpbb2 mods installed
16:58 <guru3> attachment mod, category/heirarchy mod, flag mod
16:58 <BabyBug> and that stupid post count mod..
16:58 <BabyBug> get rid of that if you upgrade! :@
16:58 <BabyBug> what's wrong with normal numbers?
16:58 <guru3> that doesn't really count as a mod
16:59 <guru3> i just hacked that in
16:59 <BabyBug> It's still a modification to the original :P
16:59 <BabyBug> a very horrible modification at that
16:59 <guru3> i like it
16:59 <guru3> we're really very flexible
16:59 <guru3> (the armagetron community)
16:59 <BabyBug> not everyone's a nerd! =P
17:00 <guru3> we don't have any tyrannic people
17:00 <BabyBug> tyrannic?
17:00 <guru3> i don't ban people for no reason
17:00 <guru3> that sort of thing
17:00 <guru3> and we have a wide diversity of people
17:00 <BabyBug> you have no fun =(
17:00 <guru3> and a high % of normal people
17:00 <guru3> which means that no one thinks like a small opensource group on our forums
17:01 <guru3> everyone thinks internet 2.0
17:03 <BabyBug> I can't see how mods would stop you upgrading though...
17:03 <guru3> the modify the database
17:03 <guru3> *they
17:03 <guru3> which means it's no longer looking like what the upgrade script expects
17:04 <BabyBug> they only add to the database though don't they? so wouldn't the upgrade thingy just ignore then? or not that simple? if it's not, it should be!
17:04 <guru3> it's not
17:04 <guru3> just isn't
17:04 <guru3> tough shit
17:04 <guru3> i feel depressed now
17:04 <guru3> intellectually kamp makes good points
17:04 <guru3> never gonna happen :/
17:05 <BabyBug> lol O.o?
17:05 <guru3> people aren't thinking small garage community
17:05 <guru3> people are thinking corporation
17:06 <guru3> internet 2.0 sites with themes across different software solutions with high visibility options and all that jazz are great
17:06 <guru3> if you're fortune 500
17:07 <z-man> #m smoothice it's frigging work in progress :)
17:07 <@armabot> z-man: The operation succeeded.
17:07 <BabyBug> random? :|
17:08 <z-man> #m ct|kyle is the sty branch up to date? I thought I fixed that bug on Trunk a while ago.
17:08 <@armabot> z-man: The operation succeeded.
17:08 <z-man> no, reacting do days old #ms.
17:08 <BabyBug> oh...
17:08 <guru3> anyone know what happend to armagetron.de?
17:09 <epsy> z-man, I don't think phpbb does that
17:09 <dlh> armagetronad.de ?
17:09 <guru3> ah
17:10 <guru3> didn't know they changed
17:11 <guru3> z-man: do you feel it's really necessary to promote armagetron to everyone on earth?
17:11 <epsy> yeah, no single RSS feed
17:11 <epsy> not on main page, not on a forum, not in a thread
17:11 <z-man> guru3: nope.
17:11 <guru3> that's my feeling
17:11 <epsy> and phpbb is a bitch to style
17:11 <BabyBug> you should promote it!
17:11 <BabyBug> promoting = win win
17:11 <guru3> that's the average consumer point of view
17:11 <z-man> No, not for our development model
17:12 <epsy> promoting when not ready = HUDE FAIL
17:12 <z-man> which is 'do work as you have time'
17:12 <epsy> and when I say HUDE I mean HUGZ
17:12 <z-man> we NEED a steady influx of new players.
17:12 <epsy> and when I say HUGZ I mean HUGE
17:12 <epsy> and maybe i'll stop with the typos now
17:13 <epsy> ct|kyle, there are
17:13 <epsy> ct|kyle, but they can't work
17:13 <epsy> [properly]
17:13 <guru3> how much of an influx?
17:13 <guru3> x players per week?
17:13 <BabyBug> and why steady?
17:14 <BabyBug> and couldn't more players mean more developers? =)...So alot would be good? ^^
17:14 <guru3> we average about 1 new forum user a day
17:14 <guru3> BabyBug: armagetron players are normal people
17:15 <epsy> BabyBug, well, it's not up to us to make them shine all over the world when we don't even know about them
17:15 <BabyBug> have you played armagetron lately? :P
17:15 <BabyBug> they're anything but normal :P
17:15 <epsy> we've seen that BabyBug
17:15 <epsy> :D
17:16 <epsy> did anyone implement the color codes documented in that protobuf thread?
17:18 <BabyBug> epsy, not your concern...eevents is! :@
17:19 <epsy> wouldn't it be more logical to have \c{colouraa}{textincolor} ?
17:27 <guru3> maybe i should reactivate subsilver
17:27 <guru3> just to make people appreciate the current design
17:32 <BabyBug> maybe you should
17:32 <BabyBug> and then when you upgrade to phpbb3 from that, it'll look so much nicer 8-)
17:33 <guru3> than the current design?
17:34 <BabyBug> well imo, yes. But if you have subsilver as normal....It'll look even nicer again!
17:34 <epsy> phpbb sucks, get over it >.>
17:34 <epsy> are we gonna stay with prosilver for 5 years if we upgrade?
17:35 <BabyBug> i vote yes!
17:35 <BabyBug> and it's "when" not "if"
17:35 <epsy> phpbb2 -> phpbb3 is not worth the themeing work that's required for phpbb
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17:46 <epsy> Novocaine, Boo:
17:56 <BabyBug> oooooooooooooo
17:58 <guru3> firefox is using 110% cpu
17:58 <guru3> goddamn flash
18:16 <epsy> goddamn flash indeed
18:16 <epsy> makes firefox suck had
18:16 <epsy> hard *
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19:05 <akira_arma> #tea
19:05 <@armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
19:06 <akira_arma> :(
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19:08 <arrow> hi
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20:08 <ivantis2> #ping
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20:08 <@armabot> pong
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20:24 <akira_arma> #tea
20:24 <@armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
20:24 <akira_arma> !"§$ you bot
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20:46 <Lizmatic> BYE
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21:06  * Lucifer considers giving an arma theme in phpbb3 a try
21:06  * Lucifer thinks he can design web pages, just can't do fancy graphics
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21:12  * BabyBug agrees!
21:23 <ct|kyle> z-man: I updarted my client and that took care of the problem
21:23 <z-man> goody
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21:25 <ct|kyle> epsy: make them work :)
21:27 <epsy> I'll suppose them means ct|kyle
21:27 <epsy> ct|kyle: WORK NOW!
21:28 <epsy> Lucifer, don't forget to give up and screw phpbb forever :)
21:29 <epsy> #last --from epsy --with ct|kyle --nolimit
21:29 <@armabot> epsy: [21:27:25] <epsy> ct|kyle: WORK NOW!, [21:27:14] <epsy> I'll suppose them means ct|kyle, [17:13:08] <epsy> ct|kyle, but they can't work, and [17:13:03] <epsy> ct|kyle, there are
21:29 <epsy> ct|kyle, needs the client to know stuff is chat, and what part is the actual char
21:29 <epsy> chat *
21:29 <epsy> that means eEvent
21:29 <BabyBug> \o/
21:30  * ct|kyle stabs BabyBug
21:32 <BabyBug> ...
21:32 <BabyBug> I've been nice ALL day....and then you have to go stab me
21:32 <BabyBug> THAT'S NOT NICE!!
21:32 <epsy> you just failed BabyBug
21:33 <BabyBug> epsy, go fuck a duck
21:33 <epsy> quaaaaaack
21:33 <BabyBug> z-man is the only nice person in this place!!
21:33 <z-man> Only because I'm too lazy to be mean.
21:33  * BabyBug face palms
21:33 <epsy> we love you BabyBug :D
21:34 <BabyBug> ^^
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21:35 <epsy> baaah, automake time
21:35  * epsy scratches head
21:35 <BabyBug> change to scons!
21:35 <epsy> I'm considering something like that
21:36 <BabyBug> and why doesn't anyone make .deb files here?
21:36 <epsy> because that would mean so much work getting inside the inners of automake
21:36 <epsy> and it wouldn't work on anything else than linux & bsd
21:37 <epsy> BabyBug, because it's boring to do
21:37 <BabyBug> why is it?
21:37 <epsy> well, try making a deb package yourself
21:37 <BabyBug> i have!
21:37 <epsy> from scratch
21:37 <BabyBug> define from scratch
21:38 <epsy> ie. you just downloaded software X and you want to make a .deb package out of it
21:38 <BabyBug> you mean...starting with dh_make?
21:38 <BabyBug> yeh
21:38 <BabyBug> easy!
21:38 <BabyBug> well not easy
21:38 <BabyBug> but not boring!
21:38 <epsy> umm..ok?
21:39 <epsy> z-man, basically, our Makefiles just build what's listed in src/Makefile.am&co, then link it into packages, then link it into a binary?
21:39 <epsy> or is there more?
21:40 <z-man> there's all kind of crap.
21:40 <z-man> make the changelog
21:40 <z-man> sort the resources
21:40 <z-man> run the program to build the command list
21:41 <z-man> But for the build of the executable, I guess you have the bits.
21:41 <epsy> ok, I'll try to start with this then
21:41 <BabyBug> Who first started arma? =)
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21:41 <epsy> Mr. Z-Man itself
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21:42 <BabyBug> itself? lol
21:42 <epsy> I seem to like that word
21:42 <BabyBug> how rude! :P
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22:07 <epsy> ok, I got it to write empty makefiles! :)
22:08 <BabyBug> yay? =)
22:13  * BabyBug wonders if the AI's will be able to torpedo in fortress...
22:14 <akira_arma> #tea
22:14 <@armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (9/32): CT_emmy, ct|Puuquie, rope, Saint George, silverdoor, sithy (Sithy@forums), ]i[ 2020, ¦×¦ PlayerNuby, °höMö
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22:38 <BabyBug> #servers
22:38 <@armabot> BabyBug: This data is 13 seconds old; - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (15/16), |FA| Black Ice! (9/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (9/10), Fortress Café (9/32), Afrothunder's High Rubber (8/10), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (8/12), {Delicious Desserts} Racing II (7/14), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (7/12), |FA| Black Tar! (6/16), SPACEZONE I [HIGH SPEED!!] (6/8), (2 more messages)
22:41 <z-man> Is there a word yet for the left-right-right-right combination that lets you reverse in tight spots when you're close to the wrong wall?
22:41 <epsy> just camping space?
22:42 <epsy> I don't have a word for that specific move, however
22:42 <epsy> oh
22:42 <epsy> inverted double back, perhaps
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22:43 <BabyBug> 360 rolls off the tongue easier 8-)
22:43 <epsy> hmm now I wonder how I am going to generate stuff that was generated by configure
22:46 <Concord> #si cafe
22:47 <@armabot> Concord: Fortress Café: Players (11/32): -»|a, 135347325z43t, 2020, AFK-47 (Sithy@forums), akira, ct|Puuquie, free kill (dlh@generalconsumption.org), Jasper (Van-hayes@forums), PlayerNuby (PlayerNub@x/member), rope, si][ty
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22:57 <BabyBug> Is it by design? or by bug....That if you host a lan game from the client....commands like /me doesn't work?
22:57 <BabyBug> it just prints "/me"
22:57 <epsy> on 0.2.8 ?
22:57 <BabyBug> trunk
22:58 <epsy> bug, I'd say
22:58 <BabyBug> okies =)
23:00 <PinkTomato> I thought it was a keyboard thing
23:02 <PinkTomato> Hmm, oh that was the default console key did not work on this PC I was using. I think it affects as well.
23:03 <PinkTomato> affects the beta for me at least
23:03 <BabyBug> oopsie, reported the bug on the wrong account >.<
23:04 <epsy> Richie?
23:04 <epsy> welshdragon! :D
23:04 <BabyBug> ex-fiance as of a couple of days ago =x
23:05 <PinkTomato> aww :(
23:06 <epsy> Well, I know I'm living in antartica, but .. is he right in front of a Castle?
23:06 <epsy> and of a motorway, as well :S
23:07 <BabyBug> lol what?
23:07 <epsy> https://launchpad.net/~welshdragon
23:08 <PinkTomato> epsy: motorways are blue in the UK :)
23:08 <BabyBug> lol
23:08 <PinkTomato> and wales has hardly any, which I have not noticed before
23:08 <epsy> well, cute village O_o
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23:09 <BabyBug> Hrmm, that's a town, the wrong town at that =P
23:09 <PinkTomato> That's a town o_O?
23:09 <PinkTomato> What do you call a village?
23:10 <BabyBug> *zooms in more*
23:10 <BabyBug> Oh wait no that's a village ^^
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23:10 <BabyBug> still the wrong village though xD
23:11 <BabyBug> epsy, you talk to him?
23:12 <epsy> who?
23:12 <BabyBug> You said "welshdragon!" as if you knew him =)
23:12 <epsy> just a kinky nickname heh
23:12 <BabyBug> :|
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23:14 <BabyBug> you know, someone could be nice and confirm the bug =)
23:14 <PinkTomato> I did ^_^
23:14 <PinkTomato> ish
23:14 <epsy> can't check right now
23:14 <BabyBug> i meant on lp silly =P
23:15 <ivantis2> hahaha
23:15 <ivantis2> i havent read that one in a while
23:15 <ivantis2> http://xkcd.com/364/
23:15 <epsy> can't QA do confirm bugs already?
23:15 <BabyBug> anyone can do confirm bugs!
23:15 <BabyBug> can't triage though =x
23:15 <PinkTomato> then BabyBug can confirm bugs
23:15 <PinkTomato> as BabyBug is part of everyone ^_^
23:15 <BabyBug> it feels naughty confirming ones own bug
23:15 <epsy> except if the bugs are too arrogant
23:16 <epsy> "No you're only a BABY bug, go away now"
23:16 <ivantis2> man, this feels like old times in irc
23:16 <BabyBug> but i'm sexy =(
23:17 <BabyBug> i don't wanna go away!
23:17 <ivantis2> you people may not realize it, but...
23:17 <ivantis2> oh man i forgot what i was going to say as  i typed that
23:19 <BabyBug> can i just kick him? (A)
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23:20 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: Do I just comment confirmed? Or do you need a project admin?
23:20 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, under status
23:20 <epsy> BabyBug, no MSN smileys here please
23:20 <BabyBug> Where it says New
23:20 <BabyBug> Click that
23:20 <BabyBug> Then change the drop down box to confirmed
23:20 <epsy> O:-) just does way better
23:20 <BabyBug> epsy...
23:20 <ivantis2> oh right
23:20 <BabyBug> SHH!!
23:21 <ivantis2> this channel wouldnt be the same
23:21 <ivantis2> if it werent for everyone here
23:21 <epsy> MSN smileys ftl! :s
23:21 <ivantis2> the size is right, like 30 to 50 people
23:21 <ivantis2> the environment
23:21 <ivantis2> the off-topicness
23:21 <ivantis2> the geek-tasticness
23:21 <BabyBug> #
23:21 <BabyBug> oops =x
23:22 <ivantis2> the people
23:22 <PinkTomato> oops, forgot to say beta and no comment delete or edit
23:22 <BabyBug> epsy, msn smileys are not ftl =( They look so cute!
23:22 <PinkTomato> but anyway, it's changed :)
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23:22 <nsh22> hey hey hey
23:22 <epsy> BabyBug, their text representation sucks
23:22 <BabyBug> epsy, your text representation sucks
23:22 <ivantis2> no geek-tasticness wasnt the right word
23:22 <ivantis2> nerdiness! thats it
23:23 <nsh22> whats better, geek or nerd
23:23 <epsy> who understands (A) ?
23:23 <epsy> who understands O:-) ?
23:23 <ivantis2> ...that has nothing to do with it
23:23 <nsh22> its an angel
23:23 <BabyBug> epsy, you obviously understood (A)
23:23 <BabyBug> A for ANGELLLL
23:23 <ivantis2> wtf is this (A)?
23:23 <epsy> BabyBug, because I didn't understand it so many times
23:23 <PinkTomato> I thought (A) was accept, sorry BabyBug!
23:24 <ivantis2> oh angel
23:24  * BabyBug face palms the desk
23:24 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, you let me down ='(
23:24 <BabyBug> My Lisa would know it's an angel! :@
23:24 <ivantis2> wheres kyle?
23:25 <ivantis2> this seems like an epsy, nsh22, ct|kyle, BabyBug, ivantis[2], PinkTomato conversation
23:25 <nsh22> :P isnt it always :P
23:25 <ivantis2> :?
23:25 <nsh22> here comes the metal meltdown! right before your eyes
23:25 <nsh22> !!!!
23:25 <PinkTomato> ivantis2: why aren't you ivantis?
23:25 <ivantis2> did that pi show up?
23:25 <ivantis2> no idea
23:25 <ivantis2> oh on this client ivantis2 is default
23:26 <ivantis2> why do i no longer run xchat on my other computer?
23:26 <ivantis2> i havent been to the basement where it is for ages...
23:26 <ivantis2> vnc and ssh sustain to do everything on it
23:26 <ivantis2> er, suffice is a better word for that
23:26 <BabyBug> ivantis2, ever thought of doing something besides babble?
23:27 <ivantis2> no
23:27 <BabyBug> come back when you have!
23:27 -!- ivantis2 is now known as ivantis
23:27 <ivantis> thats dumb
23:27 <ivantis> to nick change you need to set -e
23:28 <ivantis> well it kind of makes sense, because it would look like you were using a registered nick if you changed to an unregistered one
23:28 <@armabot> lpbugs: [338969] /commands do not work when hosting a lan game <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/338969>
23:28 <ivantis> i wonder what kind of socks i should wear today
23:28 <BabyBug> FIX NOW!
23:28 <epsy> ...
23:28 <ivantis> #fix bug->latest
23:29 <ivantis> that is a duh!
23:29 <BabyBug> #kick ivantis you're a duh.....brain!
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23:29 <ivantis> /commands never work when hosting with a client
23:29 <nsh22> lol
23:30 <PinkTomato> ivantis: hence bug repoty :)
23:30 <ivantis> its not a bug
23:30 <luke-jr> it is a bug
23:30 <BabyBug> of course it's a bug
23:30 <ivantis> just the code for commands is not in client
23:30 <BabyBug> so it's a bug...
23:30 <PinkTomato> ivantis: it is in the client
23:30 <PinkTomato> isn't it?
23:31 <luke-jr> ivantis: then that is the *reason* for the bug
23:31 <luke-jr> at least /me should work
23:31 <ivantis> no
23:31 <ivantis> i recall none of those working
23:31 <ivantis> /commands only work on dedicated
23:32 <BabyBug> ivantis, actually, if another client connects to the LAN game, /commands work fine
23:32 <BabyBug> It's only the client hosting, that the /commands don't work for
23:32 <luke-jr> ivantis: that's called a BUG
23:33 <ivantis> really? i never knode that
23:33 <nsh22> thats cuz ur dumb, lol jk
23:34 <ivantis> whatever. im no expert, i havent read all of the code or tried every little thing
23:34 <epsy> http://www.codesimplicity.com/archives/35
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23:34 <epsy> now stop wasting our time explaining you what a bug is
23:34 <BabyBug> yay he left!
23:34 <epsy> thanks
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23:34 <nsh22> damn
23:34 <BabyBug> ...
23:34 <epsy> [00:34] <epsy>: http://www.codesimplicity.com/archives/35
23:34 <epsy> [00:34] <epsy>: now stop wasting our time explaining you what a bug is
23:34 <ivantis2> damm this irc client
23:35 <nsh22> see, even it hates you :P
23:35 <ivantis2> now i will leave
23:35 <ivantis2> my sister wants to play some online game on this computer
23:35 <BabyBug> we don't care! just fuck off!
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23:35 <BabyBug> ty!
23:36 <nsh22> lol
23:36 <nsh22> wanna quote that?
23:36 <BabyBug> no
23:36 <nsh22> #quote add
23:36 <@armabot> nsh22: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
23:36 <epsy> quote what?
23:36  * BabyBug is grouchy cause she lacks sleep
23:36 <epsy>  /mode BabyBug +a
23:37 <nsh22> epsy: <BabyBug> we don't care! just fuck off!
23:37 <BabyBug> what does that do?
23:37 <nsh22> im gonna quote trhat :P
23:37 <epsy> I don't know
23:37 <BabyBug> Unknown Mode Flag
23:37 <BabyBug> :P
23:37 <epsy> probably nothing
23:37 <epsy> but it means me setting you on /away
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23:37 <nsh22> #quote add
23:37 <@armabot> nsh22: (quote add [<channel>] <text>) -- Adds <text> to the $type database for <channel>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
23:37 <BabyBug> i guess i shouldn't type things in when i don't know what they do =)
23:38 <epsy> yeah, especially on irc
23:38 <nsh22> BabyBug: can i plz quote that?
23:38 <BabyBug> No.
23:38 <BabyBug> It's copyright me!
23:38 <nsh22> :(
23:38 <epsy> or on any network that tracks clonebots through traps
23:38 <nsh22> ???
23:38 <BabyBug> ok now you lost me
23:38 <nsh22> ditto
23:39 <BabyBug> pokemon! =D
23:39 <nsh22> ...
23:39 <BabyBug> wrtlprnft and ditto should become poke-lovers
23:39 <PinkTomato> how do you check someone is /away?
23:39 <nsh22> go to #anime for pokemon (it seems appropriate :P)
23:39 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, /whois name name
23:39 <BabyBug> you need the name twice i think
23:39 <epsy> PinkTomato, /whois name, even
23:39 <PinkTomato> nsh22: they won't like that.
23:39 <nsh22> or if you ise xchat their names are grey
23:39 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: epsy thanks :)
23:40 <nsh22> PinkTomato: :D
23:40 <epsy> nsh22, we don't want pokemon shit
23:40 <nsh22> ima start a yandere there
23:40 <nsh22> on anime?
23:40 <epsy> then start a yandere there and shut up
23:40  * nsh22 shuts up
23:40 <BabyBug> \o/
23:40 <epsy> this is a fucking lightcycle game, not a play-with-irc-bots game
23:41 <epsy> neither an anime portal
23:41 <BabyBug> z-man, how good are you planning(hoping) to make the AI for fortress?
23:41 <z-man> nooby noob level.
23:42 <BabyBug> capable of attacking?
23:42 <PinkTomato> isn't there a point where you could make it pretty hard?
23:42 <epsy> to be honest, I would just let someone else do it with modules
23:42 <PinkTomato> like the defense, could be done really precise so it would be impossible?
23:42 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, holing =)
23:43 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: AI suggests 1 player game :)
23:43 <BabyBug> well you could have AI on your team aswell
23:43 <BabyBug> To even them out
23:43 <PinkTomato> ah
23:43 <PinkTomato> of course :)
23:43 <PinkTomato> only the AI has to be smart enough to use a hole
23:43 <BabyBug> or...a dedi server, set up just for ai fortress aswell
23:44 <BabyBug> so anyone can join, and face the ai
23:44 <BabyBug> Of course, if it's only nooby noob level, that'd get boring quick
23:44 <epsy> or AIs vs AIs
23:45 <BabyBug> Hrmm...If the AI has a goal of getting inside a zone, wouldn't it naturally use a hole?
23:45 <BabyBug> Surely you wouldn't need to specifically say, go through a hole would you?
23:45 <epsy> they don't die so easily
23:46 <Lucifer> well, another interview on Friday
23:46 <BabyBug> \o/
23:46 <Lucifer> political group that's trying to save the environment :)
23:46 <nsh22> wewt
23:46 <nsh22> lol
23:46 <nsh22> what would you be doing with them
23:46 <Lucifer> beats me, but the girl I talked to sounded very interesting, so if I don't get the job, maybe I'll get a date
23:47 <epsy> haha
23:47 <BabyBug> be careful lucifer...Someone who's part of a political group here, just got green custard thrown in their face today
23:47 <nsh22> lol or if you get the job yoou may still have a date :P
23:47 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: A political group that stands for seats?
23:47 <Lucifer> she asked why I was interested in the job, and I told her I was a programmer that got taken out by the recession, and an avid bicyclist that wants to save the environment
23:48 <Lucifer> so I could kill two birds with one stone
23:48 <BabyBug> oooo i completely forgot amongst everything...Where you at with that php app luci?
23:49 <Lucifer> stalled, I went a direction I didn't like and have been focusing on job-hunting again
23:49 <BabyBug> oo =x
23:49 <PinkTomato> is that tourney.dave etc.?
23:49 <Lucifer> I'm considering taking my juggling balls down to the arboretum on Monday and seeing what kind of tips I could make
23:49 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, newp, something else
23:49 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: no, different app
23:49 <nsh22> you juggle?
23:49 <Lucifer> money management app
23:49 <Lucifer> nsh22: yes
23:49 <PinkTomato> oh right :)
23:49 <Lucifer> not very well, but yeah :)
23:49 <nsh22> how many at one time?
23:49 <BabyBug> video or it's not true luci :D
23:50 <Lucifer> 3 so far, because that's all I've got
23:50 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: is tourney. etc going to happen :)?
23:50 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: unlikely, I was working on that to learn my way around a toolkit for which I was about to be hired to work with, and didn't get the job
23:51 <PinkTomato> Oh right :(
23:51 <epsy> PinkTomato, you know I'd love to do it as well, but I want other things to be done first
23:51 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, weren't you doing that? :|
23:52 <nsh22> my site is being a retard and not loading...
23:52 <epsy> reatard website!
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23:53 <nsh22> yes
23:53 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: I was, I think I'll start it up again and do it properly hopefully :)
23:53 <BabyBug> a reatard? is that like a leotard?
23:53 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, bzr branch? make it easier for other people to chip in =)
23:53 <epsy> doing it properly implis, IMO, doing what I planned on doing before
23:53 <nsh22> no, thats a retards way of saying retard :P
23:53 <epsy> implies *
23:54 <BabyBug> epsy, what did you plan on doing before?
23:55 <epsy> modules is the main dep for this IMO
23:56 <epsy> but well, the team/player management part can still be done without that
23:56 <epsy> as optional comes my wonderful carpets, but let's lay that on later
23:58 <BabyBug> yay another commit \o/

Log from 2009-03-07:
--- Day changed Sat Mar 07 2009
00:06 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: like this? https://launchpad.net/armagetronad-match
00:07 <BabyBug> ooo already done it ^^
00:08 <PinkTomato> as of 3 minutes of ago :)
00:12 <BabyBug> May as well of just created the team for it though. And then registered the branch under the armagetronad project. Rather than creating a new project.
00:12 <BabyBug> But both ways work =)
00:14 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: I didn't know if that would be rude or not :). Additionally, that list of projects on armagetronad is already too long :).
00:15 <BabyBug> and.....now you a shorter url to fetch from (lp:armagetronad-match) ^^ ... that's lazy i know =x
00:15 <PinkTomato> Oh yeah :D. Sweet :), Only I need to make some changes now to be able to use it.
00:19 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r905 Better base framework for AIs:... || [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r904 AIIdle -> AINavigator rename....
00:19 <BabyBug> Hey z-man...They grind! :D
00:19 <BabyBug> =x
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00:56 <animuson> how can i create a custom setting that is a boolean (0 or 1) and how do i check if its true?
01:03 <z-man> In the code? Doesn't tConfigItem< bool > work?
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01:03 <nsh22> hey durka
01:04 <animuson> nah its nSettingItem<bool>
01:04 <animuson> :P
01:04 <Durka> hey nsh22
01:04 <animuson> t*
01:04 <animuson> how come some of them use t and some use n?
01:04 <animuson> :-/
01:05 <luke-jr> network-enabled
01:05 <Durka> hey animuson
01:05 <Durka> quick question
01:05 <Durka> Are you the real "Player 1"?
01:05 <animuson> yea?
01:05 <animuson> >_>
01:05 <luke-jr> z-man: any idea why my floor texture branch doesn't work? :<
01:06 <Durka> scnr
01:11 <z-man> luke-jr: no.
01:11 <animuson> im out of ideas to include :-/
01:11 <animuson> lol
01:12 <luke-jr> :<
01:12 <animuson> :P
01:13 <animuson> is it possible to collapse all the zones at once?
01:13 <animuson> i know COLLAPSE_ALL does it well but only for unnamed zones
01:13 <animuson> :-/
01:14 <animuson> i mean COLLAPSE_ZONE (with nothing after it)
01:30 <PinkTomato> animuson: that is a CT function?
01:30 <luke-jr> animuson: added to what?
01:36 <animuson> collapse_zone? yea
01:38 <luke-jr> …
01:38 <luke-jr> animuson: added to what?
01:38 <animuson> arma?
01:38 <animuson> :-/
01:39 <luke-jr> 0.3 I hope
01:39 <animuson> nah i havent gotten around to upgrading to 0.3 yet :P
01:40 <luke-jr> 0.2.8 is supposed to be dead
01:40 <animuson> :P
01:40 <animuson> well i dont feel like modifying the racing timer to work with 0.3 right now XD
01:41 <luke-jr> bad animuson
01:41 <luke-jr> you should have made it for 0.3 originally -.-
01:41 <animuson> i didnt make it
01:41 <animuson> hoop did :P
01:41 <animuson> like over a year ago
01:41 <luke-jr> same diff
01:41 <luke-jr> development has been 0.3 for at least 2 yrs
01:43 <animuson> rnt u still on
01:43 <animuson> or is the website just extremely out-of-date
01:43 <luke-jr> animuson: Any new 0.2.8.x will be bug fixes only
01:43 <luke-jr> all new features will be in 0.3+
01:43 <nsh22> 0.3 is developed at same time as 0.2
01:43 <luke-jr> not quite
01:43 <luke-jr> 0.3 is the only being-developed
01:44 <luke-jr> 0.2.8 is being *maintained* and *supported*
01:44 <animuson> lol
01:44 <animuson> does 0.3 work yet?
01:44 <luke-jr> so if someone finds a security leak in 0.2.8, that will get fixed
01:44 <luke-jr> animuson: of course
01:44 <luke-jr> for certain values of "works"
01:44 <luke-jr> nsh22: Fail
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01:44 <animuson> is there a sty+ct version for it? or was that stuff just included?
01:44 <luke-jr> aw
01:45 <PinkTomato> animuson: it has not been a year yet :)
01:45 <animuson> shh tomato >_>
01:45 <PinkTomato> I'm on the 7th/8th month
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01:46 <animuson> really? thats it?
01:46 <animuson> seems like its been longer :P
01:47 <PinkTomato> hmm, maybe it has been
01:47 <smoothice> hi yall
01:47 <PinkTomato> argh PHP templating information is too numerous.
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01:48 <smoothice> z-man: Lol I know it's a WIP... but when I was shocked about how amazing that it could beat me at fortress.. I expected newer revisions to work just as well :)
01:51 <animuson> whats the branch url for 0.3?
01:51 <PinkTomato> bzr
01:51 <PinkTomato> #bzr
01:51 <@armabot> bzr co lp:armagetronad (for trunk) bzr co lp:armagetronad/0.2.8 (for 0.2.8) bzr branch lp:~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.3.1 (bzr >= 1.4)
01:52 <smoothice> bzr co for svn-like behavior
01:52 <smoothice> bzr branch for bzr-like behavior
01:54 <animuson> why is there no 0.3-sty+ct? :|
01:55 <PinkTomato> animuson: because sty was incompatible 0.3
01:56 <smoothice> PinkTomato: _was_
01:56 <smoothice> luke-jr: are you available?
01:56 <animuson> theres a +sty
01:56 <animuson> but theres no +ct
01:56 <smoothice> yeah
01:56 <smoothice> after I'm done
01:57 <smoothice> kyle and voodoo are going to port all their stuff
01:57 <PinkTomato> smoothice: (00:55:55) PinkTomato: animuson: because sty was incompatible 0.3
01:57 <PinkTomato> I did say was ;)
01:57 <smoothice> hah
01:57 <smoothice> lol
02:00 <PinkTomato> #night
02:00 <@armabot> Good night PinkTomato!
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02:01 <animuson> #night
02:01 <@armabot> Good night animuson!
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03:11 <ivantis> does this comic remind anyone else of 2 people that normally reside in this channel?
03:11 <smoothice> BabyBug: for some reason I cannot compile trunk on my Ubuntu server
03:11 <ivantis> http://xkcd.com/298/
03:13 <ivantis> the guy with the hat really reminds me of epsy
03:13 <ct|kyle> ivantis: you disappoint me, I thought for sure it was going to be a BabyBug / lizmatic one
03:13 <ivantis> kind of babybugish
03:14 <ivantis> i have never talked with lizmatic
03:15 <ct|kyle> I did think of epsy, but who is the other one
03:15 <ivantis> man that hatted man reminds me of everyone here!
03:16 <ivantis> the other guy reminds me of nsh22, smoothice, and whoever that other guy is
03:16 <ivantis> the relatively new people
03:18 <smoothice> ivantis: -.-
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03:31 <ivantis> you are kind of new!
03:31 <ivantis> who is that other new person?
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05:44 <Red_Pachel[home]> i began writing a scoring perl app that used the log files, it works fairly well and is very simple, but i realized some serious flaws the data is never normalized, are there any other mod's like this out there that might work much better than mine?
05:44 <ct|kyle> what logs are you using?
05:45 <Red_Pachel[home]> actaully, i've taken the onscreen output and piped to a file, and i process it via cron every X minutes, i was going to use the debug logs, but quickly learned they were not exactly readable w/o the log reader
05:46 <ct|kyle> try the ladderlog.txt
05:46 <Red_Pachel[home]> ok! .. defaults to /var/log/ ?
05:46 <ct|kyle> wherever the variables are
05:47 <Red_Pachel[home]> ok i'll check it out! thanks
05:47 <ct|kyle> also
05:47 <Red_Pachel[home]> yes?
05:47 <ct|kyle> you may want ct+sty because it has a bit better of a ladderlog for scripting
05:48 <Red_Pachel[home]> ct+sty ????
05:48 <ct|kyle> https://code.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-ct/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct
05:50 <ct|kyle> I think the main advantage to it is that it has a ROUND_COMMENCING  in it  and maybe a more stable GAME_TIME
05:50 <Red_Pachel[home]> alright! i can see how that can help!
05:51 <Red_Pachel[home]> have other's writen scoring scprits/mods before? i can only assume so
05:53 <Red_Pachel[home]> is there a description of these files some where? like what is ladder.txt?
05:53 <Red_Pachel[home]> now i'm just curious
05:53 <ct|kyle> ladder.txt is where it stores the ingame ladders
05:54 <Red_Pachel[home]> ok, maybe a dumb question .. what's a ladder?
05:54 <ct|kyle> rating system
05:55 <ct|kyle> http://crazy-tronners.com/wiki/index.php/Edlog  that has a list of all the ladderlog stuff in sty+ct
05:55 <ct|kyle> there are also a few more than that
05:55 <Red_Pachel[home]> ah! nice reading material! thanks
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05:58 <ct|kyle> Red_Pachel[home]: http://plantpeanuts.co.uk/flowersumo/edlog_parser_0.1.1.php.txt  this could also give you a little idea as to how to use it
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06:42 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r876 Getting onEntry and some ePlayer stuff compleated, should be...
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07:46 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/turtle/classic/4towers-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by turtle
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10:27 <BabyBug> moooooooooooooooooorning :D
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10:47 <MrBougo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tr2n
10:47 <MrBougo> eh.
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11:04 <PinkTomato> spam spam :( : http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=204423#204423
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11:42 <BabyBug> Why is guest posting even allowed on the forums?
11:47 <MaZuffeR> it isn't, posts from removed accounts are shown as guest posts
11:47 <BabyBug> oooo =x
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12:25 <MrBougo> woah seriously?
12:25 <MrBougo> now they team up?
12:25 <MrBougo> soon they'll be chatting and sending links on their own forums
12:25 <MrBougo> and talk about taking over humanity
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14:04 <guru3> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qZW8F0WC78
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15:22 <nsh22> hey hey hey
15:22 <nsh22> good mornin ladies
15:22 <nsh22> :P
15:22 <PinkTomato> #morning nsh22
15:23 <@armabot> Good Morning PinkTomato Random Fortune: FORTUNE PROVIDES QUESTIONS FOR THE GREAT ANSWERS: #21 || A: Dr. Livingston I. Presume. || Q: What's Dr. Presume's full name?
15:24 <nsh22> :P
15:25 <nsh22> #q
15:25 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #1: "Was this compiled by our friend Sum Ting Wong? --WallyWallWhackr" (added by Lucifer_arma at 06:37 AM, March 24, 2006)
15:25 <nsh22> lol
15:28 <nsh22> #quote
15:28 <@armabot> nsh22: Maybe you should loosen her clothing or something." -- Gaspode the wonder dog (Terry Pratchett, Moving Pictures)
15:28 <nsh22> #q
15:28 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #12: "'ebuild blah portage rocks emerge hotplug coldplig - armabot mashuffle'" (added by n54 at 05:44 PM, March 29, 2006)
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15:57 <smoothice> ello nsh22
15:59 <nsh22> ello smoothice
15:59 <nsh22> #q
15:59 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #85: "i spelled sumthing wrong -nsh22" (added by Lucifer_arma at 01:06 AM, January 07, 2009)
15:59 <nsh22> :(
16:00 <smoothice> Lol!
16:00 <nsh22> #Q
16:00 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #85: "i spelled sumthing wrong -nsh22" (added by Lucifer_arma at 01:06 AM, January 07, 2009)
16:00 <nsh22> #q
16:00 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #78: "<Lucifer> we all live in the other submarine, the other submarine, the other submarine" (added by epsy at 08:20 PM, August 01, 2008)
16:00 <smoothice> #q
16:00 <@armabot> smoothice: Quote #87: "<BabyBug> the thought of rabbit teeth near my clit is in no way sexy" (added by Lucifer_arma at 04:58 AM, January 18, 2009)
16:00 <nsh22> lol
16:00 <nsh22> hahaha
16:00 <smoothice> heee
16:00 <nsh22> #q
16:00 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #72: "epsy puts himself in the middle and eats it.  --epsy" (added by Lucifer_arma at 12:48 AM, July 28, 2008)
16:00 <nsh22> #q
16:00 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #57: "* epsy runs away from MrBougo | <epsy> i'm gonna take a shower brb | * MrBougo follows epsy *" (added by MrBougo at 01:38 PM, August 12, 2007)
16:01 <nsh22> o0
16:01 <nsh22> #q
16:01 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #13: "<hang3r> How many microbuscity's does it take to change a light bulb?" (added by hang3r at 07:41 AM, March 31, 2006)
16:01 <nsh22> #q
16:01 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #81: "GodTodd: that lightning is just God aiming for luke-jr and missing" (added by ct|kyle at 07:50 AM, August 05, 2008)
16:01 <nsh22> hahahaha
16:01 <smoothice> #stop nsh22
16:01 <smoothice> lol
16:01 <nsh22> :P
16:01 <nsh22> kk i g2g
16:01 <nsh22> #roulette
16:01 <smoothice> #alias add stop echo nsh22, please stop.
16:01 <smoothice> ok
16:01 <ct|kyle>  #k-line nsh22
16:01 <@armabot> nsh22: *click*
16:01 <@armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
16:01 <ct|kyle> :P
16:01 <nsh22> #roulette
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16:01  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
16:01 <smoothice> lol
16:02 <ct|kyle> woot
16:02 <smoothice> #help k-line
16:02 <@armabot> smoothice: Error: There is no command "kline".
16:02 <smoothice> -.-
16:06 <PinkTomato> my bzr won't do anything...
16:06 <smoothice> same for me omg!!
16:06 <PinkTomato> really?
16:06 <smoothice> Yeah!
16:06 <PinkTomato> Mine just blinks.
16:06 <smoothice> mine seemingly stalls
16:06 <smoothice> I cannot branch or checkout anything from lp
16:07 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: any ideas what we are doing wrong :)?
16:07 <smoothice> he had to go
16:07 <smoothice> I say temp LP outage
16:07 <BabyBug> It's fine here.
16:07 <smoothice> -.-
16:07 <smoothice> ur a baby so you don't know
16:07 <smoothice> what bazaar is
16:07 <PinkTomato> smoothice: we should upgrade our bzr's and try again :)
16:08 <smoothice> yeyeah
16:08 <BabyBug> bzr branch lp:armagetronad-match
16:08 <BabyBug> You have not informed bzr of your Launchpad ID, and you must do this to
16:08 <BabyBug> write to Launchpad or access private data.  See "bzr help launchpad-login".
16:08 <BabyBug> Branched 4 revision(s).
16:08 <smoothice> I'm dling 1.12
16:08 <BabyBug> it works whore!
16:08 <smoothice> ...
16:08 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: Woo
16:08 <PinkTomato> xD
16:08 <PinkTomato> I implemented a template class
16:08 <BabyBug> you did? woo \o/
16:09 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: I'm not sure if I done it right though :)
16:10 <BabyBug> i take it you're trying to push it? but that's what's not working?
16:10 <smoothice> I'm trying to co
16:10 <PinkTomato> I'm trying to push
16:11 <BabyBug> *shrugs* tis all hunky dory here!
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16:14 <PinkTomato> smoothice: any luck with the update?
16:14 <smoothice> nope
16:14 <smoothice> still stalled on bzr co lp:~armagetronad-sty-0.3/armagetronad/armagetronad-v2sty
16:14 <smoothice> and branch
16:14 <smoothice> tried both
16:14 <smoothice> I'm going to #launchpad
16:15 <smoothice> PinkTomato: u ask :P
16:15 <PinkTomato> smoothice: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/03/07/%23launchpad.html
16:16 <PinkTomato> no one answered :(
16:16 <smoothice> you never asked
16:16 <BabyBug> logs are not instant
16:18 <smoothice> ooo k
16:18 <smoothice> well
16:18 <smoothice> #bzr is reporting the same thing
16:18 <smoothice> so lp is screwed up :P
16:18 <@armabot> bzr co lp:armagetronad (for trunk) bzr co lp:armagetronad/0.2.8 (for 0.2.8) bzr branch lp:~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.3.1 (bzr >= 1.4)
16:18 <smoothice> hah
16:18 <PinkTomato> smoothice: so it not just us? ah, I thought the problem would be my ssh key, I forgot the password
16:18 <smoothice> nope
16:18 <smoothice> other users reporting the same
16:19 <PinkTomato> ahh, hope downtime is short,
16:19 <PinkTomato> any timescale?
16:20 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, "The server will remain locked to your account until everyone has left your server. " How are you planning to stop people abusing that? :P
16:20 <smoothice> meh
16:20 <smoothice> you can override that
16:21 <smoothice> easily :)
16:21 <smoothice> ladderlog write :P
16:21 <PinkTomato> hehe, I'm going to change how that works :).
16:21 <smoothice> lol
16:21 <PinkTomato> No plan yet
16:21 <smoothice> make ladderlog_write_game_time an Owner setting
16:21 <smoothice> and make the user Admin
16:22 <PinkTomato> Admin can't approve Admins
16:22 <smoothice> then recompile arma but in that build delete the ability to set it
16:22 <smoothice> lol
16:22 <PinkTomato> As long as an owner can't shell escape, I don't mind what they do to the server :)
16:22 <smoothice> lol
16:23 <Lizmatic> BabyBug, I HATE YOU =(
16:23 <PinkTomato> smoothice: I could make php run a cron job in an hours time to end server?
16:24 <smoothice> cron is crap
16:24 <smoothice> CronCrap
16:24 <PinkTomato> why so?
16:24 <PinkTomato> I have never used it
16:24 <smoothice> neither have I
16:24 <smoothice> lol
16:25 <smoothice> I just think it seems like something that would make the computer have to constantly _think_ about running cron jobs
16:25 <smoothice> therefore increasing cpu cycles and wear-and-tear
16:26 <PinkTomato> The computer will have to think constantly about doing nothing overwise though
16:27 <smoothice> hmmm
16:29 <smoothice> ^Cbzr: interrupted
16:29 <smoothice> -.-
16:35 <PinkTomato> smoothice: have you done templating in PHP?
16:35 <smoothice> oop?
16:36 <PinkTomato> sort of :)
16:36 <smoothice> Yeah
16:36 <smoothice> I don't do "templating" whatever that is
16:36 <smoothice> I do oop though
16:36 <smoothice> lol
16:36 <PinkTomato> ah :)
16:38 <guru3> wish i could do phpbb themes
16:39 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: http://dessert.ath.cx/download/armaserv/ is that clean php templated enough :)?
16:41 <PinkTomato> smoothice: I'm shrinking the code to that armagetron-match :)
16:41 <smoothice> good idea lol
16:41 <PinkTomato> plus I learnt require_once :D
16:43 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, better than it was :)
16:43 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: so it's heading in the right direction :D?
16:43 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, Yup!
16:43 <BabyBug> But you still still try get rid of the if statements and for loops out of the template files themselves
16:43 <smoothice> you never say that to me, BabyBug.
16:44 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: OK thank you! :), I'll change all the pages to a similar. BabyBug I'll look into that, but it seemed to make sense to use it like that :)
16:45 <smoothice> bzr is still broken :(
16:45 <smoothice> screw bzr
16:45 <smoothice> I'll use my private svn server
16:47 <Concord> how would one preset armagetron with custom connect settings?
16:47 <epsy> edit the default config file?
16:47 <guru3> change the shortcut?
16:48 <smoothice> http://crazy-tronners.com/resource/All_Tron_configs.cfg
16:48 <Concord> default.cfg?
16:48 <guru3> if that list could be properly tabbed
16:48 <guru3> so all the comments lined up
16:48 <guru3> that'd be good
16:48 <epsy> *spaced
16:48 <guru3> i'd also accept spaces
16:48 <epsy> because it's exacltly tabs that would fuck it up
16:49 <PinkTomato> guru3: isn't the armagetronad forums a custom phpbb theme?
16:49 <guru3> it's some files being tabbed ad others not tabbed
16:49 <guru3> PinkTomato: yes it is
16:49 <guru3> but i didn't do it
16:49 <PinkTomato> guru3: oh,
16:50 <guru3> community contribution
16:51 <BabyBug> smoothice, i never say that to you with good reason =)
16:51 <smoothice> -.-
16:51 <epsy> or rather, community sacrifice
16:53 <PinkTomato> argh, lagtest.net theme
16:53 <PinkTomato> brown on brown
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17:29 <PinkTomato> smoothice: bzr is fine now ?
17:32 <ct|kyle> it is fine for me too :)
17:33 <guru3> i really, really, wish the forums weren't a 1.2gb brick on disk
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17:34 <guru3> wow holy moly!
17:34 <guru3> the original download page is hiding in there!
17:35 <guru3> (8315 Hits Since 07/02/04)
17:35 <smoothice> PinkTomato: yep looks like it
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17:45 <animuson> anyone here good with SPAWN_ZONE and SET_ZONE_POSITION?
17:45 <animuson> i cant get them to work right :(
17:45 <smoothice> #cfg2 spawn_zone
17:45 <@armabot> smoothice: SPAWN_ZONE: spawn_zone_help
17:45 <smoothice> there ya go
17:46 <smoothice> :P
17:46 <animuson> http://pastebin.com/m5046934c
17:48 <animuson> zone A moves back and forth correctly but in some random spot
17:48 <animuson> zones B and C dont move at all
17:48 <animuson> they just sit there
17:48 <smoothice> hmmm
17:50 <epsy> gaah!
17:50 <animuson> haag!
17:50 <epsy> I found a CMake script for proto's
17:50 <epsy> but it's not documented
17:51 <epsy> so I don't know how to actually use it >.>
17:51 <epsy> will do my own then :<
17:51 <epsy> brb
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17:59 <Concord> sinewav: http://s431.photobucket.com/albums/qq35/concordarma/?action=view&current=screenshot_1.png
18:00 <Concord> I made some progress on the menus
18:00 <sinewav> :o
18:00 <guru3> snazzy
18:00 <smoothice> Concord: :O
18:00 <Concord> and I don't even know c+_
18:00 <guru3> i'm looking into that pesky phpbb3 upgrade again
18:00 <sinewav> That's impressive conc.
18:00 <Concord> thnx :)
18:02 <smoothice> guru3: pesky?
18:02 <guru3> i've looked at it before
18:02 <guru3> this is the farthest ive gotten
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18:02 <guru3> it's taking ages on the database
18:06 <guru3> here's a jeopardy question for everyone
18:06 <Concord> whats the terminal command to print the public ssh key?
18:06 <guru3> this sentence is the forums official phrase
18:06 <guru3> cat .ssh/id_rsa.pub?
18:06 <Concord> what is "you don't have to put up with this shit"?
18:06 <guru3> no
18:06 <BabyBug> an epic fail by lack
18:06 <Concord> guru, thnx
18:07 <guru3> BabyBug: no
18:07 <guru3> used to be everywhere
18:07 <BabyBug> guru3, well that's what he said!
18:07 <BabyBug> =x
18:08 <guru3> the phrase i mean
18:08 <guru3> back in the day
18:08 <BabyBug> uhh? what?
18:08 <guru3> the old forums moto
18:08 <guru3> LOL
18:08 <guru3> the upgrade worked
18:09 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r877 If the flag is already home. you cannot return it again
18:09 <smoothice> that's me ^ :D
18:09 <smoothice> muahahahaha
18:11 <guru3> http://guru3.net/temp/phpbb3.png
18:11 <PinkTomato> <br> is that what pointing out?
18:12 <PinkTomato> no more custom skin :(?
18:12 <guru3> i dunno
18:12 <guru3> just finding out about the viability of a phpbb3 upgrade at the moment
18:12  * animuson slaps PinkTomato around a bit with a large red cabbage
18:12 <smoothice> Lol!
18:12 <PinkTomato> why does Forum Admin<br>Project Admin happen?
18:13 <guru3> because that's a hack on my part
18:14 <guru3> because users in phpbb2 get 1 rank only
18:14 <guru3> so i used <br> to show a 2nd rank on a new line
18:14 <PinkTomato> Oh right :)
18:14 <guru3> but it seems that phpbb3 doesn't like html
18:14 <guru3> and the flags have been lost
18:14 <guru3> trying to find out if the attachments still work though
18:15 <PinkTomato> PHPbb2 does not have attachments?
18:15 <guru3> not by default
18:15 <guru3> that was a mad
18:15 <guru3> *mod
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18:16 <guru3> Lackadaisical! just the man i was thinking about!
18:17 <Lackadaisical> hey!
18:17 <guru3> wouldn't happen to be interested in looking at phpbb3 themeing would you?
18:18 <Lackadaisical> is this part of the whole thing kamp was talking about ont he forums?
18:18 <guru3> not really
18:18 <guru3> i've been meaning to upgrade for ages
18:18 <Concord> how do you push to launchpad?
18:18 <guru3> but i happen to be on a bit of a php spree
18:18 <guru3> so i'm touching base on all my outstanding php projects
18:18 <guru3> which includes the forums
18:18 <Lackadaisical> ah ok.. yeah the forums could use an upgrade
18:19 <guru3> (my dissertation is written in php, so i've been on a roll lately)
18:19 <PinkTomato> Concord: bzr push lp:project
18:19 <PinkTomato> lp:[project] :)
18:19 <Concord> bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "/Users/redwood/".
18:20 <guru3> they could
18:20 <guru3> they don't even work with phpbb5
18:20 <Lackadaisical> well i kinda like kamps idea of upgrading all things at once and give them all the same sort of style
18:20 <guru3> it's not a bad one
18:20 <guru3> but it's not something i'm capable of
18:20 <guru3> i'm sure you still remember the original logo
18:21 <Lackadaisical> heh
18:21 <PinkTomato> Concord: sounds like you need to set the project up ?
18:21 <PinkTomato> Concord: I forgot how to do that. :)
18:21 <Concord> hehe
18:22 <Lackadaisical> well i can help with skinning, but maybe you should ask him to get involved with it
18:22  * animuson slaps PinkTomato around a bit with a large red cabbage
18:23 <PinkTomato> No more cabbage! :D
18:24  * animuson slaps PinkTomato around a bit with a large bok choy
18:28 <akira_arma> #tea
18:28 <@armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (13/32): Aiphaton, alf, apparitiøn (apparition@forums), Bah, Dr.lilian, Monkey.D.Luffy, noobSaibot +, pruWord (Word@forums), Pru|»th3¤r0z3r¥, rope, Sithy (Sithy@forums), Slëëpÿ, Tðbê (Tobe@forums)
18:29 <akira_arma> O.o
18:39 <guru3> right
18:40 <guru3> landlord showed up
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18:42 <guru3> Lackadaisical: i'd be perfectly happy with the old theme ontop of phpbb3
18:42 <guru3> could switcheroo with no one notice
18:43  * sinewav likes the current look, but is pretty easygoing when it comes to change.
18:43  * animuson slaps PinkTomato around a bit with a large bok choy
18:43 <guru3> oh bloody hell
18:44 <guru3> on upgrading i'll have to rename all the attachment filenames
18:44 <sinewav> :/
18:44 <Lackadaisical> well i did a pretty bad job keeping style/content seperated when i skinned that.. would be pretty hard to recreate it for phpbb3
18:44 <Lackadaisical> it would take the same amount of work as just creating a new theme
18:44 <Lackadaisical> probably
18:44 <guru3> 'twas afraid of something like that
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18:57 <mkzelda> #weather 27545
18:57 <@armabot> mkzelda: The current temperature in Hedingham, Raleigh, North Carolina is 73.2°F (12:57 PM EST on March 07, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 44.6°F. Pressure: 29.20 in 988.7 hPa (Steady).
18:58 <Concord> btw, my build: https://code.launchpad.net/~concord-arma/armagetronad/fortressclient
18:58 <guru3> only thing that doesn't work is flags :/
18:59 <guru3> but otherwise phpbb3 is feasible
19:03 <guru3> dinner time now
19:03 <guru3> adieu
19:03 <sinewav> bb
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20:21 <epsy> woot, it builds .pb.h/cc's ! :D
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20:23 <luke-jr_> flags?
20:23 <Lackadaisical> countryflags
20:24 <luke-jr_> o
20:24 <luke-jr_> does anyone actually care about those? :o
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20:45 <epsy> /home/epsy/CODE/armagetron/trunk-cmake/src/tools/tRing.cpp:50: erreur: ‘NULL’ was not declared in this scope
20:45 <epsy> do we define NULL ??
20:46 <guru3> i thought it was a standard definition
20:46 <guru3> maybe it's null though
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20:50 <dlh> you need to include cstddef
20:50 <dlh> epsy:
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20:59 <epsy> is that from our project?
20:59 <dlh> cstddef is a std c++ header that just wraps stddef.h
21:00 <epsy> why didn't we include it already?
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21:01 <dlh> because in the current system it probably gets included in some other header before you need it from tRing
21:01 <dlh> and I'm not sure tRing is even used in the project. It probably could be removed
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21:03 <epsy> bespin is like a web IDE+code host or sth?
21:03 <epsy> dlh, mkay
21:04 <epsy> $ grep -Rn '<cstddef>' ../trunk/
21:04 <epsy> empty set :s
21:04 <dlh> grep for stddef.h, it could use that
21:04 <epsy> same
21:05 <dlh> tSafePTR.h
21:06 <epsy> don't see an include from there O_o
21:07 <BabyBug> you're blind epsy
21:08 <epsy> ah right
21:09 <epsy> ah, I see the prob
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21:20 <nsh22> hey hey hey
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21:25 <noob13> z-man, i wanted to ask, what version did you use for recording the ladle final? for me (on beta2) it gets stuck in the "mates" menu.
21:26 <noob13> is there a way to bypass that without installing a different client?
21:27 <z-man>, as usual.
21:27 <z-man> and no, it certainly won't work on any other version.
21:27 <z-man> <insert lecture about nature of DEBUG recordings>
21:27 <noob13> Ok, thanks :)
21:27 <epsy> @aawikis debug recording
21:27 <teabot> epsy: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Debug_Recording - Debug Recording - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
21:27 <epsy> :)
21:28 <epsy> I'm making some progress with CMake
21:28 <epsy> .pb.h & .pb.cc are generated :)
21:28 <epsy> I'm on tools now
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21:39 <smoothice> z-man: what does SetVelocity do in zones v1? I'm porting the blink stuff right now and I'm curious what that does and how I would bring it over to zones v2
21:40 <noob13> wouldn't it be possible to make the recordings more user-friendly? i mean, the client already has to know the location and movements of the other bikes. if these were recorded, couldn't the game data be played back afterwards?
21:41 <noob13> so that one could even change view and follow different players during the playback.....
21:41 <noob13> :P
21:41 <epsy> noob13,
21:41 <epsy> @aawikis debug recording
21:41 <PinkTomato> hmm, if we get mirroring working, shouldn't recordings become easy?
21:41 <teabot> epsy: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Debug_Recording - Debug Recording - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
21:41 <epsy> it is close to perfect for what it is meant to do
21:41 <epsy> now pretty much everyone around here don't get what they are meant to do
21:41 <guru3> did no one see my video? :<
21:41 <noob13> i see that, i was just wondering..
21:41 <epsy> I did
21:42 <PinkTomato> with the key response?
21:42 <z-man> SetVelocity? Dunno. Must be sty specific.
21:42 <epsy> noob13, I have somewhere around my mind a concept for game recordings(!= debug recordings)
21:42 <smoothice> z-man: It's a method of gZone
21:42 <guru3> yeah, showing the key presses
21:42 <guru3> smoothice: it sets the speed at which the zone spins, i think
21:42 <guru3> that or the speed at which it moves
21:42 <guru3> one of the two
21:42 <z-man> That would be SetRotationSpeed
21:43 <smoothice> Yeah
21:43 <guru3> ah
21:43 <smoothice> That's what I was thinking
21:43 <noob13> epsy, so you agree its possible and a potentially amazing feature?
21:43 <epsy> I do.
21:44 <epsy> but it won't be possible with debug recordings
21:44 <epsy> & pretty much nothing is impossible
21:44 <smoothice> guru3, z-man: should I comment out all the set velocities?
21:44 <guru3> //!             @param  velocity        the current velocity to set
21:44 <guru3> //!             @return         A reference to this to allow chaining
21:44 <smoothice> :/
21:44 <epsy> just that some stuff are impossible because they need a lot of work before we can actually get to it
21:44 <z-man> noob13: it's already possible to change camera stuff and watch different players, provided the recorder had the presence of mind to record in spectator mode.
21:44 <guru3> in gWinZone.cpp in zones v1
21:44 <epsy> that one falls into this group
21:45 <z-man> smoothice: why comment them out?
21:45 <smoothice> z-man: Because SetVelocity doesn't exist in v2
21:45 <guru3> i'm sure there's an equivalent
21:45 <PinkTomato> Is that moving Zones?
21:45 <smoothice> no
21:45 <z-man> It should be a member in zShape.
21:45 <smoothice> zonesv2-sty
21:45 <smoothice> ok
21:46 <z-man> If it isn't, then add it :)
21:46 <smoothice> I don't want to infect zones v2 with my corrupted and noob mind
21:46 <guru3> does that mean with have zCircles then?
21:46 <smoothice> lol
21:46 <guru3> and zSquares
21:46 <guru3> all sorts of zShapes
21:47 <smoothice> Here is  an example of setvelocity
21:47 <smoothice>                     shape->Position() = owner_->Position();
21:47 <smoothice>                     SetVelocity(owner_->Direction() * owner_->Speed());
21:47 <guru3> yes
21:48 <guru3> do you know the difference between speed and velocity smoothice?
21:48 <smoothice> The same :P
21:48 <guru3> WRONG
21:48 <PinkTomato> Ahh!
21:48 <smoothice> ?
21:48 <PinkTomato> Velocity = speed and direction
21:48 <PinkTomato> speed = speed
21:48 <guru3> PinkTomato: DING DING DING
21:48 <PinkTomato> hehe :)
21:48 <smoothice> alright
21:49 <PinkTomato> smoothice: SetVelocity(owner_->Direction() * owner_->Speed());
21:49 <smoothice> O_o
21:49 <smoothice> :P
21:49 <smoothice> The zones v2 looks to be SetRotationSpeed
21:49 <smoothice> equivalent
21:49 <guru3> setrotationspeed
21:49 <guru3> has nothing todo with setvelocity
21:50 <smoothice> whoa wait
21:50 <smoothice> how can a zone have a speed and direction
21:50 <guru3> ROTATION speed
21:50 <guru3> how fast it spins
21:50 <guru3> has nothing to do with what direction it's moving in and how fast it's going there
21:51 <smoothice> but
21:51 <smoothice> a zone moves?
21:51 <guru3> ever played styball?
21:51 <guru3> capture the flag?
21:51 <smoothice> yes...
21:51 <guru3> did you catch the zones moving?
21:51 <smoothice> yeah
21:51 <smoothice> lol
21:52 <smoothice> I'm just saying SetVelocity isn't declared
21:52 <smoothice> so
21:52 <smoothice> Should I make it?
21:52 <smoothice> copy the code over?
21:52 <guru3> i don't know if copying it is necessary
21:52 <guru3> but some equivalent
21:52 <guru3> should be someplace
21:52 <guru3> and yes you hsould make it if its not
21:53 <guru3> according to z-man
21:53 <PinkTomato> So... it's about moving zones?
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21:53 <smoothice> yeah
21:53 <smoothice> I guess
21:53 <smoothice> lol
21:53 <guru3> hat was one of the thigns in mind when zones v2 was designed
21:53 <guru3> imagine if the fotress zone moved
21:54 <smoothice> GetRotation()
21:54 <smoothice> GetRotationSpeed();
21:54 <smoothice> SetRotationSpeed(REAL r);
21:54 <smoothice> GetRotationAcceleration();
21:54 <smoothice> SetRotationAcceleration(REAL r);
21:54 <smoothice> GetEffectiveSegments() const;
21:54 <smoothice> GetEffectiveSegmentLength() const;
21:54 <PinkTomato> pastebin!
21:54 <guru3> in zShape?
21:54 <smoothice> oops
21:54 <smoothice> Yeah
21:54 <guru3> that can't be it
21:54 <smoothice> setRotation2
21:55 <smoothice> setGrowth
21:55 <smoothice> and some pos stuff
21:55 <smoothice> but that's it
21:57 <guru3> hmmm
21:58 <guru3> guess you'll have to add it
21:59 <smoothice> ok
22:01 <smoothice> guru3, z-man: Yeah, the only two remaining errors I'm getting are the lack of ability to see the velocity and radius of the flag zone
22:01 <smoothice> set*
22:01 <guru3> now i know i saw setradius just now
22:01 <smoothice> but
22:02 <smoothice> there is no radius in zones v2
22:02 <guru3> for zCircles?
22:02 <smoothice> except for zShapeCircles
22:02 <smoothice> but
22:02 <smoothice> there may be polygonal flags
22:02 <z-man> The real radius is the product of that with the scale property of the zShape base (or zZone, can't remember).
22:03 <z-man> For animation, you should use the scale.
22:03 <z-man> That works for polygons, too.
22:03 <smoothice> ok
22:03 <smoothice> and
22:03 <smoothice> Its argument is a tFunction
22:03 <smoothice> How so I implement that?
22:04 <z-man> tFunction is a linear function of form f(t) = c + a(t-t_0)
22:04 <z-man> t_0 being the reference time stored in the shape.
22:04 <z-man> so you set the zone offset c to 0
22:05 <z-man> the slope a to 1 (or whatever you like)
22:05 <z-man> and the reference time to the current time.
22:05 <smoothice> and what about the scale itself?
22:06 <smoothice> I thought the scale would just be a flaot
22:06 <smoothice> float
22:09 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9136 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. NEWS src/engine/ePlayer.cpp): Daniel Lee Harple: SILENCE_ALL can be used on the client to ignore chat from all players locally.
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22:16 <smoothice> z-man: so of tFunction I need to use SetOffset and SetSlope?
22:17 <smoothice> z-man: and then how does offset and slope make a scale?
22:18 <z-man> scale = offset + slope * (time - referencetime)
22:18 <smoothice> so the reference time
22:18 <smoothice> is
22:18 <smoothice> shape->ReferenceTime()?
22:19 <smoothice> SetReferenceTime(); is deprecated
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22:26 <z-man> It is? But the scale is still a tFunction using it? then slap luke-jr :)
22:26 <smoothice> #help slap
22:26 <@armabot> smoothice: (slap <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "echo $who slaps $1 for being a raving moron.".
22:27 <smoothice> #slap luke-jr
22:27 <@armabot> smoothice slaps luke-jr for being a raving moron.
22:27 <z-man> Or not. Possibly, the reference time is stored elsewhere.
22:27 <smoothice> well
22:27 <smoothice> there's a setreferencetime but no GetReferenceTime
22:28 <smoothice> -.-
22:28 <smoothice> in fact
22:28 <smoothice> what does reference time do anyways?
22:31 <smoothice> z-man: So I need to recreate SetVelocity as a method of what class?
22:31 <smoothice> or
22:31 <smoothice> should that be done in trunk
22:31 <smoothice> and then I can merge from it
22:31 <epsy> grmpf
22:31 <z-man> Possiby, but it needs to be done :)
22:31 <epsy> ah
22:31 <smoothice> epsy: ???
22:31 <epsy> https://code.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/trunk-cmake
22:31 <epsy> :)
22:31 <z-man> zShape would be the cass.
22:32 <smoothice> ok
22:32 <smoothice> who should implement it?
22:32 <smoothice> It wouldn't make sense for me to implement it and then someone else
22:33 <epsy> argh, my clock is bugged again
22:33 <epsy>  891. By  epsy  in 32 minutes
22:33 <smoothice> #slap epsy
22:33 <@armabot> smoothice slaps epsy for being a raving moron.
22:33 <smoothice> z-man: so should I implement then?
22:33 <z-man> yes.
22:34 <epsy> let's hope CMake+make don't mess up as soon as I get my clock set up properly
22:34 <z-man> does it help us build on Windows and Mac? :)
22:34 <epsy> it SHOULD
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22:35 <epsy> now the big problem will be client vs dedicated
22:35 <nsh22> hey
22:36 <epsy> so, well, I will try to make it possible to build both :)
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22:49 <smoothice> z-man: http://armagetron.pastebin.com/m60bd7374
22:50 <smoothice> z-man: That's all in zShape
22:50 <smoothice> nsh22: what's new
22:50 <nsh22> nm, u
22:50 <smoothice> z-man: I tried Position() too with arguments and stuff with no luck
22:50 <smoothice> nsh22: not much...
22:50 <z-man> it needs to be zShape::SetPosition.
22:51 <z-man> err, zShape::SetVelocity.
22:51 <smoothice> not get?
22:51 <smoothice> ok
22:52 <smoothice> z-man: so then instead of GetPosition
22:52 <smoothice> z-man: zShape::GetPosition ( pos ); ?
22:53 <z-man> no, instead of void SetVelocity( eCoord const & velocity )
22:53 <z-man> void zShape::SetVelocity( eCoord const & velocity )
22:55 <smoothice> yeah I got that... but Instead of the method should it look like this? It compiles: http://armagetron.pastebin.com/m3cf92b3d
22:59 <smoothice> z-man: ?
23:00 <akira_arma> #tea
23:00 <@armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (13/32): ?gïrl/dæv/ñµll, Dragon268, free kill (dlh@generalconsumption.org), Ichigo, longballlasch, No Comparison, noob13 (noob13@ct), pike, Player 1, strona, Z00, ~|DS|~AshitakA, ¦×¦ PlayerNuby (PlayerNub@x/member)
23:00 <z-man> I don't know :) I didn't write zShape.
23:01 <z-man> And hardly had anything to do with it.
23:02 <smoothice> ohhhhh
23:02 <smoothice> phillipeqc wrote it?
23:02 <epsy> yes
23:03 <smoothice> dang I wish he was still around
23:04 <epsy> PM him, if it's really important
23:04 <epsy> libtools builds :)
23:05 <smoothice> he gets pm's?
23:05 <epsy> only if you send them
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23:16 <ivantis> this is fun
23:16 <ivantis> im going to a movie that i wasnt allowed to go to
23:17 <smoothice> -.-
23:17 <ivantis> 'watchmen'
23:17 <ivantis> its R, but im  taking a bus going there
23:17 <ivantis> heehee
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23:18 <smoothice> z-man: so about the radius... if the original code was
23:18 <smoothice> z-man: SetRadius(originalRadius_ * startRadiusPercent);
23:18 <smoothice> z-man: Then how do I turn that into the scale
23:18 <smoothice> I'm still not quite comprehending tFunction appropriately
23:19 <luke-jr> z-man: SetReferenceTime is on zZone; scale is on zShape
23:19 <guru3> smoothice: have you done linear algebra?
23:19 <smoothice> guru3: is that algebra 1 or 2?
23:20 <guru3> algebra 1 in the US i think
23:20 <z-man> luke-jr: any idea why? Wich part of zZone uses it?
23:20 <smoothice> guru3: then yes
23:21 <guru3> y = mx + b
23:21 <smoothice> Yeah
23:21 <smoothice> slope and y-intercept
23:21 <guru3> from what i saw z-man write earlier
23:21 <guru3> tFunction is a variation on that
23:22 <guru3> where x is the difference between two time steps
23:22 <luke-jr> z-man: zZone doesn't use it
23:22 <luke-jr> z-man: gZone did, for the shape
23:23 <z-man> Then what's it doing there?
23:23 <smoothice> guru3: but then how does that have to do with scale?
23:23 <luke-jr> z-man: zZone::SetReferenceTime is a __deprecated wrapper to shape->SetReferenceTime(), to aid in porting stuff from zones v1
23:23 <guru3> if y was the zone radius
23:23 <guru3> y over the original radius
23:23 <guru3> would be teh scale
23:23 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-cmake] r891 Added CMakeLists.txt... || [trunk-cmake] r892 Libtools builds....
23:23 <z-man> Didn't you say reference time is on zZone?
23:24 <luke-jr> the __deprecated zZone::SetReferenceTime calls zShape::SetReferenceTime
23:24 <luke-jr> only the former is deprecated
23:26 <luke-jr> z-man: basically the idea is to go from gZone subclass to zZone subclass with minimal work, fix the bugs, *then* change deprecated calls
23:26 <smoothice> 'class zShape' has no member named 'SetReferenceTime'?
23:26  * nsh22 is away: dinner
23:26 <luke-jr> smoothice: it might be called soemthing else
23:26 <smoothice> nope
23:26 <smoothice> void zShape::setReferenceTime(REAL time)
23:27 <smoothice> damnit
23:27 <smoothice> why does
23:27 <smoothice> arggggg
23:27 <smoothice> shape->SetReferenceTime();
23:27 <smoothice> 'class zShape' has no member named 'SetReferenceTime'
23:27 <smoothice> -.-
23:27 <luke-jr> lowercase 's'
23:27 <luke-jr> you'll need to add a time argument too
23:28 <smoothice> ok
23:28 <smoothice> Got that fixed
23:29 <smoothice> now
23:29 <smoothice> Get and Set Radius are the only things left
23:29 <smoothice> and then I've got flag blinking theoretically
23:29  * nsh22 is back (gone 00:03:08)
23:29 <nsh22> stil working on sty v2?
23:29 <nsh22> or w/e
23:30 <smoothice> nsh22: yeah
23:30 <luke-jr> smoothice: wtf does radius have to do with blinking?
23:30 <smoothice> when it blinks
23:30 <smoothice> it goes from small to big
23:30 <smoothice> and stuff
23:30 <luke-jr> …
23:30 <luke-jr> why
23:30 <smoothice> pig made it that way
23:31 <smoothice> should I remove it?
23:31 <z-man> luke-jr: but what is the reference time variable still doing in zZone?
23:32 <smoothice> luke-jr: the control of the blink is done via Radius... setting it to 0 and then up to the user-controlled value again... back and forth
23:33 <smoothice> luke-jr: I can convert it to alpha if necessary
23:33 <luke-jr> z-man: no idea
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23:34 <luke-jr> smoothice: probably should be an option
23:34 <smoothice> luke-jr: flag blinking at all?
23:35 <luke-jr> I'm assuming that's already an option
23:35 <smoothice> yes
23:35 <smoothice> all the configs are in
23:48 <nsh22> smoothice: how is the php thingy goin?
23:48 <smoothice> nsh22: god
23:48 <smoothice> good
23:48 <nsh22> :P
23:49 <epsy> hmmm
23:49 <epsy> darn
23:49 <smoothice> ?
23:49 <epsy> network built up to the forelast target
23:49 <epsy> then fails on the last one
23:49 <epsy> with an error I don't really understand
23:53 <epsy> z-man, http://armagetronad.pastebin.com/m45a4e77e
23:53 <epsy> z-man, any idea?
23:54 <smoothice> luke-jr: how do I control the alpha of a zone? shape->Alpha?
23:54 <z-man> epsy: looks like missing includes, perhaps some flags set wronly
23:55 <luke-jr> tColor color = shape->GetColor(); /* manipulate color.a_ */; shape->SetColor(color);
23:55 <z-man> for example, trying to include the Windows headers or something.
23:55 <smoothice> luke-jr: alpha, not color
23:55 <epsy> is the <unnamed>:: part normal?
23:55 <luke-jr> smoothice: alpha is part of the color
23:56 <smoothice> but alpha isn't r g b
23:56 <epsy> you can set a
23:56 <smoothice> ooo
23:56 <smoothice> k
23:56 <epsy> or a_
23:56 <epsy> can't remember
23:56 <luke-jr> tColor isn't r g b
23:56 <luke-jr> it's RGBA
23:56 <smoothice> ok
23:58 <epsy> z-man, [23:56] <epsy>: is the <unnamed>:: part normal?
23:59 <z-man> No.
23:59 <z-man> May be the anonymous namespace.
23:59 <epsy> that's what I'm thinking

Log from 2009-03-08:
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00:01 <nsh22> #r
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00:05 <smoothice> luke-jr: what's the difference between tColor and rColor?
00:05 <luke-jr> rColor can render or something
00:05 <smoothice> k
00:07 <smoothice> luke-jr: does alpha work on a percent scale?
00:07 <luke-jr> ofc
00:08 <smoothice> k thanks
00:08 <nsh22> what is alpha?
00:10 <smoothice> transparency
00:10 <smoothice> luke-jr: zFlag.cpp:181: error: 'class zShape' has no member named 'GetColor'
00:10 <nsh22> then make a member\
00:10 <smoothice> ...
00:10 <nsh22> or try getColor
00:11 <smoothice> heyyy
00:11 <smoothice> it worked!
00:11 <smoothice> thanks nsh22 :P
00:11 <luke-jr> alpha is *usually* transparency
00:11 <nsh22> :P
00:11 <luke-jr> we need time based colour
00:11 <luke-jr> and functions better than polynomials
00:11 <nsh22> im good at programming now! :P
00:12 <smoothice> luke-jr: usually?
00:12 <luke-jr> smoothice: it can also be additive transparency, or object colour
00:12 <luke-jr> right now
00:13 <luke-jr> for zones, it is additive transparency
00:13 <smoothice> zomg
00:14 <smoothice> Build succeeded
00:14 <luke-jr> …
00:14 <smoothice> THis could be alpha flag blinking
00:14 <smoothice> *crosses fingers*
00:14 <PinkTomato> interesting
00:15 <nsh22> why do you want the flags to blink?
00:15 <smoothice> ...
00:15 <smoothice> when you own them stupid
00:15 <smoothice> lol
00:16 <nsh22> stupid?
00:16 <nsh22> #kick smoothice in the shin
00:16 <nsh22> :P
00:16 <smoothice> fail
00:16 <smoothice> #slap nsh22
00:16 <@armabot> nsh22: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
00:16 <@armabot> smoothice slaps nsh22 for being a raving moron.
00:17 <smoothice> ownd!
00:17 <nsh22> ]list
00:17 <ljrbot> nsh22: Admin, Alias, Bible, Channel, Config, Format, Games, Karma, Later, Math, Misc, Network, Owner, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Status, Stock, User, Utilities, Weather, Web, and Yandere
00:17 <nsh22> #slap smoothice
00:17 <@armabot> nsh22 slaps smoothice for being a raving moron.
00:17 <smoothice> lol
00:17 <smoothice> I got it first :P
00:17 <nsh22> #q
00:17 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #58: "luke, your so cute when you think you are right about some crazy position. - philippeqc2" (added by GodTodd at 03:34 AM, August 13, 2007)
00:17 <nsh22> lol
00:17 <nsh22> lol
00:17 <nsh22> #q
00:18 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #57: "* epsy runs away from MrBougo | <epsy> i'm gonna take a shower brb | * MrBougo follows epsy *" (added by MrBougo at 01:38 PM, August 12, 2007)
00:18 <nsh22> #q
00:18 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #72: "epsy puts himself in the middle and eats it.  --epsy" (added by Lucifer_arma at 12:48 AM, July 28, 2008)
00:18 <nsh22> #q
00:18 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #81: "GodTodd: that lightning is just God aiming for luke-jr and missing" (added by ct|kyle at 07:50 AM, August 05, 2008)
00:18 <nsh22> #q
00:18 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #62: "<tronner> armabot: *click* <armabot> tronner: You've given me 5 invalid commands within the last minute; I'm now ignoring you for 10 minutes." (added by epsy at 11:34 PM, November 16, 2007)
00:18 <nsh22> #q
00:18 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #18: "so you can't send a note to spidey or other noobs. -wrtlprnft" (added by Vanhayes at 05:23 AM, June 21, 2006)
00:19 <smoothice> luke-jr: I just ran it and it did nothing different -.-
00:19 <nsh22> #q
00:19 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #84: "<cusco> #quote search *cusco*  <armabot> cusco: No matching quotes were found." (added by Lucifer_arma at 11:54 PM, December 19, 2008)
00:19 <nsh22> #q
00:19 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #44: "the real question is, what idiot hosted a server for Hyphy? -- Lucifer_arma" (added by ghableska at 04:02 AM, March 05, 2007)
00:21 <smoothice> luke-jr: this alpha code isn't working
00:22 <smoothice> luke-jr: http://armagetron.pastebin.com/m7c57b4a5
00:22 <smoothice> It does nothing at all
00:24 <smoothice> luke-jr: even with a RequestSync
00:27 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r911 Taught AI to really, really grind deeply.... || [armagetronad-v2sty] r878 Close to getting radius-based flag blinking working; next co... || [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r910 Don't be afraid of dead enemies.... || [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r909 Added randomized evaluator and cowardly evaluator that avoid... || [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r908 Further tweaking.... ||
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00:31 <epsy> @aawikis project dependency structure
00:32 <epsy> @ping
00:32 <epsy> useful bot
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00:33 <nsh22> #q
00:33 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #69: "gentoo ebuild is as broken as luke-jr himself :D ~xfroggy" (added by ct|kyle at 06:23 PM, January 26, 2008)
00:33 <epsy> @aawikis project dependency structure
00:33 <nsh22> try @aawiki
00:33 <epsy> it's loading
00:33 <teabot> epsy: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Project_Dependency_Structure - Project Dependency Structure - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
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00:34 <epsy> haha
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02:10 <luke-jr> ]later tell smoothice are you RequestSync-ing the shape?
02:10 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
02:19 <luke-jr> did anyone else notice Concord's fork is an entirely new import and not a branch off anything existing? :x
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02:30 <madmax> \o/
02:35 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r913 Re-added a rudimentary fortress AI logic.... || [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r912 Removed P-Turn path; instead, change the U-Turn to a P-Turn ...
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04:52 <smoothice> luke-jr: Yeah I am
04:53 <luke-jr> o i c
04:59 <smoothice> luke-jr: I just committed rev 880 but the flag blinking isn't working. Could you take a look: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-sty-0.3/armagetronad/armagetronad-v2sty/revision/880
05:00 <luke-jr> smoothice: not right now, sry
05:16 <smoothice> luke-jr: it blinks on 0.3 clients but not 0.2.8 clients (we think)
05:16 <smoothice> luke-jr: that's good and bad news
05:21 <luke-jr> 0.2.8 doesn't have alpha support
05:22 <luke-jr> smoothice: I'd ignore it for now and leave it as a 0.2.8 compatibility issue
05:22 <luke-jr> alpha=0 can be emulated by sending the sync with a 0 radius
05:25 <smoothice> luke-jr: Alright :)
05:31 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: what is the deal with an extra zone showing up after the fortress zone is collapsed
05:31 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: same zone
05:32 <luke-jr> it was there in 0.2.8, but never worked right, best I can tell
05:32 <ct|kyle> I don't think it should be there
05:33 <luke-jr> maybe not
05:33 <ct|kyle> I don't see a point in having it
05:33 <luke-jr> neither do I
05:33 <luke-jr> but I don't like to destroy things without knowing why they were created
05:35 <ct|kyle> should I hack zFort.cpp for the capturing of flag of should I look to see if it is in there? (if possible)
05:35 <luke-jr> …
05:35 <luke-jr> zFortress should not know anything about flags
05:36 <luke-jr> flags can be disabled, after all
05:37 <luke-jr> smoothice: enjoy
05:41 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r882 this should make alpha-blinking work with 0.2.8 clients || [armagetronad-v2sty] r881 merge from trunk || [armagetronad-zones-v1v2-invisible] r891 Transmit invisible zones as a 0 radius || [armagetronad-v2sty] r880 added some things I forgot on the last commit -- still doesn... || [armagetronad-v2sty] r879 more work at flag blinking with alpha instead of radius
06:02  * luke-jr hopes his new dev post doesn't turn into one of those 10 pages of discussion with no real work.
06:03 <luke-jr> dev forum post*
06:03 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: what you commented does not compile
06:03 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: o rly? why not? XD
06:04 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: http://rafb.net/p/Nzvv8s71.html
06:05 <luke-jr> o i c
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06:14 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: fixed the 2 bugs
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06:14 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: thanks :)
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06:15 <luke-jr> merged
06:18 <smoothice> luke-jr, ct|kyle: you guys are the best :) I mean it
06:19 <ct|kyle> smoothice: I'm about to push after a test
06:20 <smoothice> ct|kyle: ok
06:20 <ct|kyle> I think I have flag returned ready to go
06:20 <ct|kyle> at least to a point where you can finish it up
06:21 <smoothice> Alright
06:21 <smoothice> I'm just... amazed
06:21 <ct|kyle> then moving the flag from point a to b will be left
06:21 <smoothice> so
06:21 <smoothice> when gCycle dies
06:21 <smoothice> drop the flag
06:22 <ct|kyle> no returnHome
06:22 <ct|kyle> I think
06:22 <smoothice> oh
06:22 <smoothice> GoHome
06:22 <smoothice> or
06:22 <smoothice> no
06:22 <smoothice> it depends on the setting
06:25 <luke-jr> hm
06:25 <luke-jr> how do you detect when gCycle dies? :o
06:25 <luke-jr> what if he's respawned immediately?
06:26 <smoothice> add it to the gCycle code
06:26 <luke-jr> add what? ;)
06:26 <luke-jr> I think that kind of thing depends on epsy's eEvent system
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06:30 <luke-jr> smoothice: btw, the patch I just made was like 4 lines long :p
06:32 <smoothice> luke-jr: Lol
06:35 <ct|kyle> smoothice: I guess I don't quite have it as close as I thought
06:37 <smoothice> ct|kyle: k
06:37 <smoothice> #night
06:37 <@armabot> Good night smoothice!
06:38 <smoothice> #echo Remember folks, DST starts tonight!
06:38 <@armabot> Remember folks, DST starts tonight!
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06:43 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r883 merge invisible zone fixes || [armagetronad-zones-v1v2-invisible] r893 dealing with a Sync not a tColor.. || [armagetronad-zones-v1v2-invisible] r892 tFunction wants a slope always
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08:37 <luke-jr> ]later tell smoothice Just finished my first rewrite of BASE_RESPAWN and BASE_ENEMY_RESPAWN; second rewrite is planned to use zEffectors ☺
08:37 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
08:50 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-fortress-respawn] r891 fortress base respawning via BASE_RESPAWN and BASE_ENEMY_RES...
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12:47 <Lucifer> guru3: linear algebra in the US is taken after calculus
12:47 <Lucifer> at least, in my school it is
12:48 <Lucifer> wait, I might be thinking of something else
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14:03 <guru3> Lucifer: y=mx+b
14:03 <guru3> straight lines
14:03 <guru3> i was taught that in 8th grade
14:03 <guru3> which would effectively be algebra I
14:03 <guru3> then geometry
14:03 <guru3> then algebra II
14:03 <guru3> then pre-cal
14:03 <guru3> then calculus
14:03 <guru3> then statistics
14:03 <guru3> was the order i thought
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14:22 <Lucifer> guru3: ah, my understanding is that "linear algebra" is the first class in what's considered "higher math"
14:22 <Lucifer> so it introduces number theory, goes deep into matrices, and a few other things
14:23 <Lucifer> http://www3.austincc.edu/catalog/fy2009/descmath.htm#math2318
14:23 <Lucifer> math 2415, the prerequisite, is Calc 3, an introduction to vector calculus
14:27 <guru3> ah
14:27 <guru3> thinking about it too deep ><
14:28 <guru3> maybe i should have said 1st order polynomials then
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15:08 <epsy> vParser.cpp is generated right?
15:10 <smoothice> epsy: -.-
15:10 <epsy> smoothice, ?
15:10 <smoothice> epsy: why on earth do you think anyone but you would know
15:11 <epsy> because someone else than me made what used to build armagetron?
15:13 <joda_bot> epsy: The parser is generated yes
15:13 <joda_bot> epsy: I remember coding some batch script to make it work on windows
15:13 <epsy> bison right?
15:13 <joda_bot> epsy: good question, let's see if I got stale code lying around which might help me tell
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15:32 <PinkTomato> #ubuntu
15:32 <@armabot> sudo aptitude install bzr (or subversion) build-essential automake libboost-dev libxml2-dev libsdl-image1.2-dev libsdl-mixer1.2-dev ftgl-dev libglew-dev bison pkg-config autoconf autotools-dev
15:32 <epsy> joda_bot, ok, it seems to be bison
15:32 <epsy> now I wonder why FTGL won't link..
15:33 <epsy> there's -lftgl
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15:33 <joda_bot> epsy: yes it's bison
15:33 <joda_bot> sorry did not find the file I was looking for
15:33 <epsy> it's not flex :)
15:33 <Flex> ?
15:33 <joda_bot> there is a vParser.ypp (which is the input for bison)
15:33 <epsy> yeah, I got that to build
15:34 <smoothice> #dict bison
15:34 <@armabot> smoothice: gazetteer, foldoc, gcide, wn, moby-thes, and gaz-place responded: wn: bison n : any of several large shaggy-maned humped bovids having large heads and short horns; foldoc: Bison++ GNU's Yacc parser generator retargeted to C++ by Alain Coetmeur <coetmeur@icdc.fr>. Version 1.04. {(ftp://iecc.com/pub/file/bison++.tar.gz)}. {(ftp://iecc.com/pub/file/misc++.tar.gz)}. (10 more messages)
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15:59 <smoothice> PinkTomato: Pings are in the 200s on DD racing II... and I live two states away from it :P
16:04 <epsy> GRR, why isn't it building thirdpart libs?!
16:04 <epsy> thirsparty libs *
16:05 <joda_bot> epsy: it = linux gcc ? :D
16:05 <epsy> it being CMake/make
16:05 <epsy> ooo
16:06 <joda_bot> hm, afaik there has always been some dead code in the source tree ? :-P
16:08 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-cmake] r895 Builds up to libtron. Fails to link with FTGL and thirdparty... || [trunk-cmake] r894 Libnetwork builds. || [trunk-cmake] r893 Add CMakeCache to .bzrignore...
16:09 <epsy> nah, I expressedly marked them as link deps
16:17 <epsy> k..now wtf is with FTGL :S
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16:24 <PinkTomato> smoothice: could not find a problem
16:25 <guru3> woo!
16:25 <guru3> just hailed
16:26 <guru3> stood outside catching the hail & eating it
16:26 <guru3> poor mans snow cones :D
16:26 <ct|kyle> LOL
16:26 <guru3> on the flip side
16:26 <guru3> my fingers are pretty coldnow
16:26 <Lucifer> #math calc 114/2
16:26 <@armabot> Lucifer: 57
16:27 <akira_arma> #tea
16:27 <@armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
16:27 <guru3> might have eaten too much hail
16:27 <guru3> feel pretty funky now
16:27 <Lucifer> maybe you should've put some syrup in your mouth before you caught the hail?
16:28 <guru3> didn't have any syrup :<
16:28 <guru3> (they were REALLY poor man's snow cones)
16:29 <Lucifer> #math calc 57/2
16:29 <@armabot> Lucifer: 28.5
16:29 <guru3> my housemate came out while i was making and tossing hail balls with the stuff on the ground
16:29 <guru3> he looked at me pretty funny
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16:30 <epsy> I wonder if there was any special treatment for ftgl
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16:30 <z-man> Bah.
16:30 <epsy> it fails to link :<
16:30  * z-man was looking forward to seeing Godzilla vs King Kong
16:31 <z-man> and it's the American version :(
16:31 <epsy> is that bad?
16:31 <Lucifer> the american version sucks
16:31 <Lucifer> japanese version is much better
16:31 <z-man> There's this guy explaining everyting.
16:31 <Lucifer> actually, I don't remember if there's a japanese version of that one
16:31 <Lucifer> but king kong vs mothra was really badass
16:31 <z-man> Sure there is.
16:32 <Lucifer> grrrr, where's my scissors?
16:32 <epsy> if I tell g++ to -lftgl on an input of just "#include <FTGL/ftgl.h>", it won't even try to link FTGL will it?
16:32 <guru3> left top drawer of your desk Lucifer
16:33 <Lucifer> my fancy new juggling balls are peeling already, and I'd like to snag a pattern from them before they're too far gone so I can make more just like them
16:33 <z-man> epsy: no, you need to actually use one of the functions for a true linkage test.
16:33  * Lucifer doesn't have drawers on his desk
16:33 <epsy> how to I tell bash to put newlines in the middle of my commandline?
16:33 <guru3> well, no wonder you can't find then
16:35 <epsy> bah
16:35 <epsy> any easy to use FTGL symbol?
16:35 <guru3> look at the configure test for it
16:35 <Lucifer> what's wrong with the one configure already uses?
16:37 <epsy> $ g++ -I/usr/include/freetype2/ -fpermissive -lftgl -x c++ test.cpp
16:37 <epsy> /tmp/cc0OI1qB.o: In function `main':
16:37 <epsy> test.cpp:(.text+0x12): undefined reference to `ftglRenderGlyph()'
16:37 <epsy> meh
16:37 <Lucifer> means the test failed, eh?
16:37 <epsy> yeah
16:37 <guru3> wouldn't that imply it's not installed properly?
16:37 <guru3> (or some such)
16:38 <epsy> arma builds it, and pkg-config recognizes it
16:38 <smoothice> #seen luke-jr
16:39 <@armabot> smoothice: luke-jr was last seen in #armagetron 8 hours, 1 minute, and 45 seconds ago: <luke-jr> ]later tell smoothice Just finished my first rewrite of BASE_RESPAWN and BASE_ENEMY_RESPAWN; second rewrite is planned to use zEffectors ☺
16:39 <smoothice> luke-jr: we committed a crime... the modification of zFortress! *dun dun dunnnnnn*
16:39 <epsy> smoothice, if it needed to be modified, then it means it failed
16:40 <smoothice> ?
16:40 <epsy> the modification is a part of the road to make it fully effective
16:40 <smoothice> well
16:40 <epsy> ie. not needing to change it ever anymore
16:40 <smoothice> kyle added a function of zFortress
16:40 <smoothice> and made it a method in the header
16:40 <smoothice> and
16:40 <smoothice> luke-jr told me not to
16:40 <smoothice> w/e
16:41 <epsy> well, you should first try to do whatever you want to do without editing it
16:41 <epsy> if something is effectively lacking on zFortress, then add it
16:41 <smoothice> ok
16:41 <smoothice> well
16:41 <smoothice> It was the ability to check the owner team of zFortress from another class
16:42 <smoothice> of a zFortressZone, rather
16:42 <epsy> like, just moving from private to public?
16:42 <smoothice> no
16:42 <smoothice> It wasn't a method
16:42 <epsy> adding an Owner() method?
16:42 <smoothice> Ooooh
16:42 <smoothice> no
16:42 <smoothice> kyle did
16:42 <smoothice> tString getTeam(){return team->Name();}
16:42 <smoothice> added to header
16:42 <epsy> baaad
16:43 <smoothice> ct|kyle: ^ -.-
16:43 <guru3> what could you use that for?
16:43 <epsy> get team should return a TEAM
16:43 <epsy> not a team NAME
16:43 <smoothice> ooooo
16:43 <smoothice> right
16:43 <smoothice> so
16:43 <smoothice> return team
16:43 <smoothice> ;
16:43 <guru3> is team a pointer
16:43 <guru3> or an object?
16:43 <epsy> and change the signature
16:43 <guru3> if it's an object you'll need to return a pointer
16:43 <epsy> guru3, pointer, because of the ->
16:44 <guru3> good point
16:44 <epsy> :)
16:44 <smoothice> what do you mean change the signature
16:44 <guru3> otherwise it'd be , right?
16:44 <epsy>  .
16:44 <guru3> that's what i meant
16:44 <guru3> damn these mini keyboards
16:44 <epsy> ^^
16:44 <smoothice>   if(other->getTeam() == player->CurrentTeam()->Name()){
16:44 <guru3> and :: if you were calling it outside of the class
16:45 <smoothice> wow
16:45 <smoothice> now I'm confused by ->, ., and ::
16:45 <smoothice> I thought I understood it -.-
16:45 <guru3> all depends on where you stand and where you're looking
16:45 <epsy> :: accesses static members OR namespaces
16:46 <epsy> . accesses members
16:46 <guru3> ive never fully understood namespaces
16:46 <epsy> -> accesses members of a pointer
16:46 <epsy> (it's just . without you needing to * it)
16:46 <smoothice> yeah.. and the whole concept of pointers if iffy for me too
16:46 <smoothice> it links the memory together
16:46 <smoothice> or something?
16:46 <guru3> could you instead do (&pointer).member() ? ;)
16:46 <epsy> the operators for it are rather confusing
16:47 <epsy> guru3, not sure if it's not the opposite
16:47 <guru3> oh wait that should be *
16:47 <epsy> ah
16:47 <epsy> yeha
16:47 <guru3> & = address of
16:47 <guru3> * = dereference operator
16:47 <epsy> &* = undereference operator
16:47 <epsy> :o)
16:47 <guru3> Oo
16:48 <guru3> should &* just cancel out?
16:48 <guru3> like anti-matter and matter?
16:48 <smoothice> dereference pointer?
16:48 <smoothice> undeference?
16:48 <smoothice> wtf!!!
16:48 <smoothice> -.-
16:48 <guru3> have you ever read a novel smoothice?
16:48 <smoothice> Yeah
16:48 <guru3> know how there are page numbers?
16:48 <smoothice> Yeah
16:48 <guru3> those are like addresses
16:48 <smoothice> ok
16:49 <guru3> &(Chapter 1)
16:49 <smoothice> I see what you're saying
16:49 <guru3> would be the page number of chapter 1
16:50 <epsy> very good metaphor
16:50 <smoothice> epsy: so tString getTeam(){return team;}
16:50 <guru3> err!
16:50 <epsy> is team a tString? :)
16:50 <smoothice> instead of team->Name();?
16:50 <guru3> *eTeam getTeam
16:50 <smoothice> uh
16:50 <smoothice> no
16:50 <smoothice> eTeam
16:50 <epsy> noo
16:50 <smoothice> *?
16:50 <epsy> poinnter to eTeam
16:50 <guru3> *eTeam getTeam(){return team;}
16:50 <smoothice> eTeam * getTeam(){return team;}
16:50 <epsy> so, say that it is a pointer: eTeam* getTeam
16:50 <epsy> yeah
16:50 <smoothice> does it matter where the * goes/
16:50 <guru3> whoops got my * in the wrong place
16:51 <guru3> i'm not sure actually -_-
16:51 <smoothice> yeah
16:51 <smoothice> :/
16:51 <epsy> also, think of * as "this is a pointer"
16:51 <smoothice> ok
16:51 <smoothice> so what is the & for
16:51 <guru3> int * test = & something;
16:51 <guru3> read & as "address of"
16:51 <guru3> int * test = & something; -> the integer test is a pointer containing the address of something;
16:51 <epsy> & is either "gimme pointer" either "gimme reference"
16:52 <smoothice> so a pointer refers to a reference/
16:52 <smoothice> ?
16:52 <epsy> these are pretty much opposites
16:52 <epsy> a pointer points to a space in your memory
16:52 <wrtlprnft> pointers and references are the same, really, they're just handled differently :x
16:52 <smoothice> ...
16:52 <epsy> a reference is when you have the hold over the original object
16:52 <wrtlprnft> references are pointers that try to look like objects
16:55 <wrtlprnft> the big difference is that once you initialized a reference you can't change the spot it points to
17:00 <guru3> now i'm confused too :/
17:00 <guru3> back to php
17:00 <epsy> hehe
17:00 <guru3> and javascript
17:00 <guru3> good ol' dissertation
17:00 <guru3> where the work isn't in the programming
17:01 <guru3> but the rather sketchy theory i've developed on what constitutes valid data
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17:03 <wrtlprnft> still beats java
17:04 <guru3> java... is one of those languages that tries to be too clever i think
17:04 <wrtlprnft> public void foo(int i, String s) {}
17:05 <guru3> private
17:05 <guru3> and the 3 inbetween
17:05 <wrtlprnft> who would, without reading tons of docs, guess that i is a by-value parameter and s is a reference?
17:05 <guru3> i never knew that
17:05 <wrtlprnft> everything is a reference except the basic numeric types
17:05 <guru3> and if that means what i think it does, that's crazy
17:06 <wrtlprnft> public void foo(int i, String s) {i = 1; s = "hi";}
17:06 <wrtlprnft> int i = 5; String s = ""; foo(i, s); // i is still 5, but s is "hi"
17:07 <wrtlprnft> even (in c) 0[somePointer] is more understandable to me
17:08 <epsy> rofl
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17:11 <ct|kyle> yes I knew it was bad, I just was too lazy to figure out the right santax
17:11 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r885 getTeam should return the eTeam itself, not its name || [armagetronad-v2sty] r884 Setting up for flag to be taken home || [trunk-cmake] r896 scrap builds and links. FTGL still bugging me....
17:14 <epsy> gaaah..
17:14 <dlh> wrtlprnft: that's not correct. You can't point the reference to a new object in Java.
17:16 <dlh> they call it passing a reference by value
17:18 <wrtlprnft> err, sorry
17:18 <wrtlprnft> haven't done java in some time
17:19 <wrtlprnft> subsitute the String by an array
17:19 <wrtlprnft> and then change a member of that array
17:20 <wrtlprnft> *an element, to be more correct
17:22 <dlh> Right, you can modify the object (or array), but you can't point it to a new object.
17:23 <epsy> http://armagetronad.pastebin.com/m2f5e1ccb
17:23 <epsy> any idea?
17:23 <dlh> link to freetype?
17:24 <wrtlprnft> you can point it to a new object, but the calling function won't notice :-)
17:25 <dlh> right :)
17:26 <epsy> dlh, very good idea
17:26 <dlh> #bye
17:26 <@armabot> Goodbye dlh :(
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17:28 <epsy> woot, that's a client! :D
17:28 <wrtlprnft> ?
17:29 <epsy> wrtlprnft, getting arma to build with cmake :)
17:29 <wrtlprnft> oh, sweet!
17:30 <epsy> hehe
17:30 <epsy> so far I got it to build clients that don't know where to find their data :>
17:30 <wrtlprnft> should have looked a little more closely at that pastebin post
17:30 <epsy> indeed :)
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18:15 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-cmake] r897 Client builds but doesn't find it's data....
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18:41 <epsy> zmanuel, was it possible to run arma from an outsourced build?
18:42 <zmanuel> sure.
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18:42 <epsy> how did it do that?
18:42 <epsy> did it just copy files?
18:43 <z-man> no, it read them from the source directory.
18:43 <z-man> Apart from the resources.
18:43 <epsy> hrm, but how did it build language/languages.txt without touching the source dir?
18:44 <z-man> Ah, those were of course built in the build directory.
18:44 <Pathetique> #ls PhD
18:45 <smoothice> #ls epsy
18:45 <epsy> hmm
18:45 <@armabot> Pathetique: timed out
18:45 <@armabot> smoothice: epsy has last been seen on Fortress Café 9 minutes ago.
18:45 <smoothice> Café :P
18:45 <Pathetique> so if he times out
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18:45 <Pathetique> It means he can't find entries on him?
18:45 <smoothice> yep
18:45 <epsy> z-man, what to do then? write in the source directory? :/
18:45 <Pathetique> FFS.
18:45 <z-man> No, all writes go to the build directory.
18:46 <epsy> so what will I do with language/languages.txt then?
18:46 <epsy> just let arma not run from an outsourced build?
18:47 <z-man> well, yeah.
18:48 <epsy> Pathetique, #help lastseen
18:48 <epsy> Pathetique, visit that URL with the correct player name
18:48 <epsy> Pathetique, it won't time out
18:48 <Pathetique> kk
18:49 <akira_arma> #tea
18:49 <@armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (13/32): + noobSaibot, +|SmOoThice~NW, .dBd|Pathetique, Concord, CTxGonZaP, cT¬speedmaster, FLP|RAM, Monkey.D.Luffy, NoChat, NüMb3r$, patelni, Pdfef, Zephyr
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18:53 <Pathetique> #ls qp.acid
18:53 <@armabot> Pathetique: timed out
18:53 <Pathetique> ffs
18:55 <epsy> GID queries are usually way faster
18:55 <Pathetique> Indeed.
18:55 <epsy> so use them when you can
18:55 <Pathetique> #help aka
18:56 <@armabot> Pathetique: (aka <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "web fetch [format concat http://ratings.armagetronad.net/aka.php?slashes=1&name=[urlquote @1]]".
18:58 <P4> .42 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioVEt9CZpi4
18:58 <P4> d'oh, wrong channel
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18:59 <Pathetique> GodTodd: How do you like the FiOS?
19:19 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r886 flag home returns and stuff
19:19 <luke-jr> also, IIRC, tString is being phased out
19:20 <epsy> luke-jr, talking to me?
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19:22 <luke-jr> I think the current zone ownership setup is broken
19:23 <luke-jr> Zones v2 has a concept of owners and owner teams, but zFortress doesn't use it I think
19:24 <epsy> by the way have my commits about tTrueVersion.h/.cpp been fully reverted?
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19:25 <epsy> seems like it
19:26 <smoothice> luke-jr: tString phaseout?
19:26 <smoothice> luke-jr: replace with what?
19:26 <luke-jr> standard C++ string
19:26 <smoothice> NO WAY!
19:26 <luke-jr> …
19:26 <epsy> std::string
19:26 <smoothice> std::string?
19:26 <smoothice> NO WAY!
19:26 <epsy> yes way
19:26 <luke-jr> why not?
19:26 <smoothice> because
19:26 <smoothice> there is no way
19:26 <smoothice> arma could possibly
19:26 <epsy> indeed, why not?
19:26 <smoothice> use standard stuff
19:26 <luke-jr> …
19:27 <smoothice> no way
19:27 <smoothice> that's like
19:27 <luke-jr> fine
19:27 <smoothice> revolutionary
19:27 <smoothice> ?
19:27 <luke-jr> then we need to port to Qt
19:27 <smoothice> ?
19:27 <epsy> fuck no
19:27 <luke-jr> LOL
19:27 <epsy> we already have boost in the works so QT ..
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19:38 <luke-jr> [ 47%] Built target kdontchangethehostname
19:38 <luke-jr> wtf is this crap
19:38 <luke-jr> <.<
19:39 <epsy> O_o?
19:39 <epsy> that's not from me lol
19:39 <epsy> what target is that from?
19:39 <luke-jr> kdelibs
19:40 <epsy> OH
19:40 <epsy> bugger you, I thought it was from trunk-cmake
19:40 <luke-jr> that exists? :O
19:40 <epsy> yeah, I'm working on it
19:40 <epsy> https://code.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/trunk-cmake
19:41 <luke-jr> why? :x
19:41 <epsy> autotools gets on my nerves :<
19:41 <luke-jr> mine too, but does cmake really improve?
19:41 <epsy> yeah, it is quite clearer
19:41 <luke-jr> autotools takes care of a lot of nice things, like cross-compiling
19:41 <epsy> and easier to add new stuff
19:42 <luke-jr> hum
19:42 <luke-jr> well, who needs cross-compiling anyhow? :D
19:42 <luke-jr> I'm not sure that actually works for Arma right now anyhow
19:42 <epsy> well, you can't cross-compile with current setup anyway >.>
19:44 <luke-jr> good luck :D
19:48 <epsy> heh
19:48 <epsy> well, it builds a client already
19:49 <epsy> just need to find out what AT called for scripts to move stuff around and I'll soon have a working client
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20:11 <luke-jr> epsy: any chance it builds a client and server without clobbering each other's .o files?
20:12 <epsy> one of my goals
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20:24 <mkzelda> #weather 27545
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21:27 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r888 Fixed server crash due to Timestep issue || [armagetronad-v2sty] r887 Drop the flag when the cycle dies...and other various things...
21:39 <akira_arma_> #tea
21:40 <@armabot> akira_arma_: Fortress Café: Players (7/32): 'rope, -»|hoop, 5up3rM4r10, bubblesjs, JP°Sandtrap, Spencer, ThreeKeys
21:40 <smoothice> #seen hoop
21:41 <@armabot> smoothice: hoop was last seen in #armagetron 4 weeks, 0 days, 1 hour, 46 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <hoop> bad idea
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21:54 <guru3> can anyone recommend a mobile phone?
21:55 <smoothice> yes
21:55 <epsy> for what kind of use?
21:55 <guru3> quad/tri band international calls
21:55 <guru3> no wifi or mp3 player
21:55 <smoothice> gsm?
21:55 <guru3> yes
21:55 <epsy> just phone + SMS gsm?
21:55 <guru3> 3g
21:55 <epsy> ah
21:55 <epsy> hmm
21:55 <guru3> 2.5g
21:55 <guru3> edge
21:55 <guru3> the works
21:55 <smoothice> iPhone :)
21:56 <epsy> well, I would have suggested the nokia 1600 if you didn't put this constraint
21:56 <ct|kyle> guru3: no wifi or mp3 player
21:56 <ct|kyle> so smoothice how is iphone in that resrtiction
21:56 <guru3> smoothice: you're the 2nd person to say iphone
21:56 <smoothice> well
21:56 <smoothice> why is it a restriction
21:56 <ct|kyle> ivantis2 would say G1
21:57 <smoothice> Android is crap in a hole :D
21:57 <epsy> android looks good
21:57 <smoothice> LOOKS
21:57 <smoothice> app store
21:57 <epsy> the phone seems to suck
21:57 <smoothice> $3 minimum price
21:57 <guru3> i wouldn't really _mind_ wifi and mp3 player
21:57 <guru3> but i'll never use them
21:57 <smoothice> iPhone
21:57 <epsy> smoothice, why would I pay for everything I need on my phone?
21:57 <smoothice> you don't have to pay for an mp3 player
21:57 <smoothice> -.-
21:58 <epsy> also
21:58 <epsy> http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/LoChjdTYTRs/article.pl
21:58 <smoothice> so?
21:59 <epsy> REALLY closed distribution scheme ftl
21:59 <epsy> (and nokia's/symbian's isn't much better tbh)
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21:59 <Lizmatic> symbian, isn't that the toy you want BabyBug? xD
22:00 <epsy> symbian is an operating system you can find on many many phones
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22:01 <epsy> I can't really think of any tri/quad that only does phone&sms
22:02 <epsy> why do you only want tri or quad ?
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22:03 <guru3> because i ay wind up in the US in two or three years
22:03 <guru3> and i may visit sooner than that
22:03 <epsy> er, they don't have GSM anymore?
22:03 <ivantis2> no android is great
22:03 <ivantis2> app store? what shit
22:03 <ivantis2> Android Market
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22:04 <guru3> the US uses gsm 850 and 1900
22:04 <guru3> while EU uses 900 and 1800
22:05 <ivantis2> what about other continents/countries?
22:05 <ivantis2> canada/mexico/mid-americas are on the US one?
22:05 <guru3> i think so
22:05 <guru3> most everywhere in the world has some form of GSM though
22:05 <guru3> the US used to be very big though on CDMA
22:05 <guru3> they're big on some other sort of DMA now though
22:06 <ivantis2> isnt GSM that stuff that it says isnt in hot dogs?
22:06 <guru3> but cingular and at&t brought up the gsm network
22:06 <BabyBug> Lizmatic >.<
22:07 <epsy> well, there's this phone which I used until some months ago:
22:07 <epsy> http://shop.nokia.co.uk/nokia-uk/product.aspx?sku=3607397&section_id=530&culture=en-GB
22:07 <ivantis2> android is an operating system that is very good and that you need to buy a phone running
22:08 <guru3> because for example, it runs like crap on an openmoko
22:08 <guru3> because it's hard coded for the stupid scroll thingy
22:08 <epsy> trying to use a touchscreen OS on a non-touchscreen phone huh?
22:08 <guru3> the openmoko is touch screen
22:09 <guru3> the thing is it doesn't have a keyboard
22:09 <epsy> yeah
22:09 <epsy> the G1 has both
22:09 <guru3> yeah
22:09 <guru3> and i would be interested too
22:09 <guru3> if the screen didn't move like it did
22:09 <guru3> shit like that _breaks_
22:10 <epsy> how does it move?
22:10 <guru3> the G1 screen slides sideways on two arms
22:10 <guru3> to reveal the keyboard
22:10 <epsy> like, it rises up?
22:10 <guru3> no
22:10 <guru3> it goes sideways
22:10 <guru3> parallel movement
22:10 <epsy> yeah
22:10 <epsy> what's wrong with this?
22:11 <guru3> it moves.
22:11 <epsy> it doesn't stay in place?
22:11 <guru3> no
22:11 <epsy> or you just don't like sliders
22:11 <guru3> it's not sliding
22:11 <guru3> there's no track or rail
22:11 <guru3> or any guide
22:11 <guru3> you could slide it to the side and then wrip it off
22:12 <guru3> because the leverage is there
22:12 <epsy> r...r..really???
22:12 <guru3> that was my impression from playing with it at the t-mobile store
22:12 <epsy> but...how did HTC sell suck a thing?!
22:12 <epsy> such *
22:13 <ivantis2> dude
22:13 <guru3> i don't know
22:13 <epsy> well, in the same style there's one of the LG phones
22:13 <ivantis2> you is needing a G1
22:13 <ivantis2> i love it!
22:13 <epsy> it has an on screen numpad plus a side-keyboard
22:13 <ct|kyle> told you guru3 :P
22:13 <ivantis2> on screen numpad?
22:14 <guru3> a keyboard might be handy
22:14 <ivantis2> oh yeah in the dialer application
22:14 <guru3> but like
22:14 <epsy> let me find that link
22:14 <guru3> i want a candy bar of decent proportions
22:14 <ivantis2> vodafone has some deal for a new one without the keyboard
22:15 <epsy> http://uk.lge.com/products/model/detail/mobilephones_ks360.jhtml
22:15 <epsy> well, 6300 would do
22:15 <epsy> it looks really good
22:16 <epsy> no keyboard though, and screen gets full of dust
22:16 <guru3> the thing is right
22:16 <guru3> i don't really use my phone very much
22:16 <guru3> i use my 770 and ipod a lot more
22:16 <guru3> it's just i need the 3g quad band
22:17 <epsy> well, at worst you'd buy it in the US
22:17 <guru3> the nokia e66 doesn't look too bad
22:18 <guru3> the things are too thin
22:18 <guru3> i need short and stocky
22:18 <guru3> so i can keep track of where it is
22:18 <ivantis2> just buy a G1
22:19 <epsy> well, it's 295 in UK
22:19 <epsy> £
22:19 <epsy> http://shop.nokia.co.uk/nokia-uk/product.aspx?sku=3886745&culture=en-GB
22:19 <ivantis2> really?
22:19 <epsy> but has s60, so multithreading&co
22:19 <guru3> could possibly get it cheaper in sweden
22:20 <epsy> http://shop.nokia.se/nokia-se/product.aspx?sku=3873221&culture=sv-SE
22:20 <epsy> #g 4195 kr in £
22:20 <@armabot> epsy: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:20 <epsy> #g 4195 kr in pounds
22:20 <@armabot> epsy: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:21 <guru3> #g 4195 sek in gbp
22:21 <@armabot> guru3: 4195 Swedish kronor = 323.504134 British pounds
22:21 <guru3> #g 4195 / 1.25
22:21 <@armabot> guru3: 4,195 / 1.25 = 3,356
22:21 <guru3> #g 3356 sek in gbp
22:21 <@armabot> guru3: 3356 Swedish kronor = 258.803307 British pounds
22:21 <guru3> that's more like it
22:21 <epsy> I however don't see where the menu keys are
22:22 <guru3> i hate these new sorts of phones
22:22 <guru3> i want the new hardware with the old OS
22:22 <guru3> give me make 4 greyscale
22:22 <epsy> why?
22:22 <guru3> *back
22:22 <eddiefantastic> hi! can anyone help me with building the trunk client from source on ubuntu?
22:22 <epsy> multithreading is damn great
22:23 <guru3> ive been using the same phone for the last 3 years
22:23 <guru3> a T68i circa 2001
22:23 <eddiefantastic> ./protoc: error while loading shared libraries: li.protobuf.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
22:23 <guru3> well, the T68 is circa 2001
22:23 <epsy> like, switch from the IRC client to the webbrowser while listening to music
22:23 <guru3> the T68i is a bit later
22:23 <eddiefantastic> that seems to be the root of my problem
22:23 <epsy> eddiefantastic, idn't protobuf in the repos?
22:24 <guru3> i don't particularly want a phone that makes a statement
22:24 <ivantis2> did you know that i am swedish?
22:24 <eddiefantastic> protobuf-2.0.3 has been installed from source
22:24 <guru3> no
22:26 <epsy> you need to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH, run ldconfig, or make symlinks
22:26 <ivantis2> im also like a quarter italian
22:26 <eddiefantastic> epsy: if it is in the repos I couldn't find it
22:27 <epsy> guru3, http://shop.nokia.co.uk/nokia-uk/product.aspx?sku=3893519&culture=en-GB
22:27 <guru3> stocky in the wrong direction
22:27 <epsy> eddiefantastic, so you installed it in /usr/local/ ?
22:28 <eddiefantastic> ldconfig seemed to do the trick, it seems to be on its way...
22:28 <epsy> always run ldconfig after installing libs, like they told you to :)
22:29 <eddiefantastic> you mean rtfm? Never!
22:29 <BabyBug> protobuf is in the repos :s libprotobuf-dev and protobuf-compiler
22:29 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r889 Fixed crash when player holding flag disconnects
22:31 <eddiefantastic> BabyBug: not in 8.04 it aint. I had to build ftgl by hand also, mine was out of date
22:32 <BabyBug> oh =x
22:32 <eddiefantastic> I had a couple of bad experiences with 8.10, namely that annoying network manager thing. Back on 8.04 now
22:34 <BabyBug> hey!! arn't you the welsh guy?!
22:34 <guru3> i hate network manager
22:34 <guru3> a lot
22:34 <eddiefantastic> yeah, I'm still afraid to reboot my server :S
22:34 <eddiefantastic> BabyBug: yeah! Hi!
22:35 <BabyBug> ooooo HI! :D
22:35 <eddiefantastic> And I'm sure there's others ;)
22:35 <smoothice> eddiefantastic: why are you afraid? scared of 8.10 woes you had before?
22:35 <epsy> grmm, what used to produce tUniversalVariables.h.in ?
22:36 <eddiefantastic> It has trouble saving network configs
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22:37 <BabyBug> eddiefantastic, none that i know of ='(
22:38 <eddiefantastic> Well, it works! I think I need to upgrade my graphics drivers
22:38 <smoothice> z-man: do you have any possible idea about this problem I'm having? -> if I make a flag zone and in one of the methods I set the alpha to 50 , it acts like it sets it to 0 instead of 75
22:38 <smoothice> on a percentage scake
22:38 <smoothice> scale*
22:40 <z-man> nope.
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22:59 <nsh22> hey hey hey
22:59 <smoothice> hi
22:59 <smoothice> #q
22:59 <@armabot> smoothice: Quote #54: "<Lucifer_arma> nah, he disappeared. I think God is dead." (added by GodTodd at 05:48 PM, August 10, 2007)
23:00 <epsy> BabyBug, what version of CMake do you have on ubuntu?
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23:01 <BabyBug>   Ymgeisydd: 2.6.2-1ubuntu1
23:01 <epsy> ty
23:01 <epsy> is that ROT1 ?!
23:01 <epsy> orn ot
23:01 <BabyBug> what?!
23:02 <epsy> nm
23:14 <smoothice> z-man: k
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23:22 <ivantis2> onoloht: ab, vg'f EBG2
23:22 <ivantis2> wow
23:23 <ivantis2> i have an amazing name
23:23 <ivantis2> ivan in rot13 is vina
23:23 <ivantis2> it contains all of the original letters, rearranged
23:24 <BabyBug> Ohhhh now i get epsy's question...
23:24 <BabyBug> ty ivantis2, you were actually useful for once..what a shocker
23:24 <BabyBug> and erm epsy, no... Ymgeisydd is welsh you bewb! :P
23:25 <epsy> lol!
23:26 <ivantis2> i was helpful?
23:26 <ivantis2> by what?
23:32 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r892 This should make flags follow the cycle || [armagetronad-v2sty] r891 misc. fixes || [armagetronad-v2sty] r890 attempt at the flag following the cycle || [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r914 Very basic tailchasing ability. Doesn't work properly yet....
23:35 <BabyBug> fortress ai broked again ='(
23:36 <fonkay> troll alert.
23:37 <nsh22> where?
23:37 <ivantis2> THERE! TROLL!
23:37 <fonkay> forums.
23:37 <fonkay> oh... and me
23:37 <ivantis2> ~ping
23:37 <The_Master> pong
23:37 <fonkay> forgot about myself
23:37 <nsh22> whos da troll?
23:38  * ct|kyle pokes BabyBug gently with a very sharp knife 
23:38 <ivantis2> ttech's bot?
23:38 <ivantis2> ow
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23:40 <fonkay> bioman? whoever that is. He's made a few random posts before, nothing worth mentioning.
23:40 <nsh22> how is he trolling?
23:41 <ivantis2> by being reported
23:41 <nsh22> #google 8 of march
23:41 <@armabot> nsh22: Search took 0.11 seconds: International Women's Day - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Women's_Day>; March 8 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_8>; About International Women's Day 2009: <http://www.internationalwomensday.com/about.asp>; International Women's Day 2009: (2 more messages)
23:42 <fonkay> you could... you know reading it yourself
23:43 <ivantis2> &google 4 of november
23:43 <nsh22> psht
23:43 -!- ivantis2 is now known as ivansbot
23:43 <nsh22> FAILBOT
23:43  * fonkay should not watch tv, eat and irc at the same time...
23:43 <nsh22> lol
23:43 <fonkay> her sentences do not make much sense.
23:45 <epsy> ivansbot, ping
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23:45 <ivantis2> ??
23:45 <epsy> ivantis2, ping
23:45 <ivantis2> it wouldnt let me change nicks while i was here
23:45 <ivantis2> epsy: pong
23:46 <epsy> ok that's not a bot
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00:00 <nsh22> #q\
00:00 <nsh22> #q
00:01 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #71: "<Monkey_arma> to be fair the mess the wiki is in, i cant tell spam from actual content" (added by noob7 at 10:50 PM, April 14, 2008)
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00:10 <luke-jr> z-man: I think your ideas w/ polynomial stuff are over my head ☺
00:11 <z-man> But you do know fourier series?
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00:11 <z-man> (I have to apologize, I was pretty vague in my explanations. I should write more detail some other time.)
00:18 <luke-jr> no idea what that is
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00:22 <nsh22> power outtage
00:22 <nsh22> ]a
00:22 <ljrbot> nsh22: There's no game here.
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00:35 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r915 Improved tailchasing....
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03:50 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r917 More refinements. Dammit, this is work.... || [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r916 Still better tailchasing. Got to get rid of those suicides, ...
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04:45 <luke-jr> do fortress AI know how to hole yet?
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08:09 <epsy> luke-jr, "know" is a vague word
08:09 <epsy> bbl
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09:02 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-cmake] r898 Structure for tUniversalVariables.h...
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11:35 <zmanuel> BabyBug: yeah, it's work in progress. If you look at the code, you'll notice that the grinding AI is empty right now, waiting to be adapted to the new logic.
11:39 <BabyBug> zmanuel, Did i ask a question that i forgot about....or was that in reply to a comment i made? =\
11:39 <BabyBug> And good morning :)
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12:16 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r919 less reckless rubber wasting.... || [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r918 concentration logic now makes more sense....
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15:16 <eddiefantastic> guru3: is it just me or is "View posts since last visit" broken on the forums?
15:18 <guru3> just you
15:23 <eddiefantastic> guru3: http://pastebin.com/m2be0fbf0 <-- that's the error if you're interested
15:23 <guru3> hmm
15:24 <guru3> works fine for me
15:24 <eddiefantastic> logging out and back in seems to have fixed it
15:24 <guru3> i think you may just have been unlucky
15:24 <eddiefantastic> seems ok. it's ok now
15:25 <eddiefantastic> *seems so
15:25 <guru3> ok
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18:16 <BabyBug> \o!
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18:39 <Concord> #si cafe
18:39 <@armabot> Concord: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “cafe” at the moment, sorry.
18:39 <BabyBug> #cafe
18:39 <@armabot> BabyBug: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “cafe” at the moment, sorry.
18:40 <BabyBug> i just left there! there is so a server matching it
18:40 <madmax> it was all your imagination
18:41 <BabyBug> like your life!
18:41 <madmax> aww
18:42 <BabyBug> ^^
18:42 <BabyBug> #n9
18:42 <@armabot> BabyBug: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (0/16):
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20:03 <nsh22> herro peoples
20:07 <madmax> greets
20:08 <nsh22> :P
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20:24 <Concord> cafe time
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20:32 <Concord> #si cafe
20:32 <@armabot> Concord: Fortress Café: Players (4/32): Ct_Concord, Ww_Compguygene (compguygene@forums), _-'Ww_Arctic, ~|DS|~biZz
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20:58 <Concord> #si cafe
20:58 <@armabot> Concord: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
20:58 <Concord> :(
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21:45 <Concord> #si cafe
21:45 <@armabot> Concord: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
21:45 <Concord> :(
21:53 <epsy> erm, is there a python module to handle commandline arguments?
21:53 <ct|kyle> epsy: for python to execute shell commands?
21:54 <epsy> no, for me to handle something like blah/myscript.py -o someFile easier
21:54 <BabyBug>  OptionParser
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21:55 <epsy> where do I find docs for this?
21:55 <BabyBug> http://docs.python.org/library/optparse.html
21:56 <ct|kyle> dam and I built my own LOL
21:56 <epsy> fail
21:57 <ct|kyle> success it worked and it took very little time
22:00 <Concord> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=204543
22:00 <Concord> wups
22:01 <Lizmatic> nerd
22:02 <BabyBug> >.<
22:02  * Lizmatic hugs her nerd
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22:02 <BabyBug> go eat gone off boiled cheese whore
22:03  * ct|kyle while (1 == 1){stabs BabyBug;}
22:04 <Lizmatic> she loves me
22:04 <Lizmatic> I love her too, even though she's an ol' nerd.
22:04 <Lizmatic> xD
22:04 <ct|kyle> I think that killed her :)
22:04 <BabyBug> :| That's not even funny!
22:05 <epsy> for ( unsigned short i = 255; i >= 0; i-- ){ Stab(BabyBug); }
22:06 <epsy> DANGIT I've heard enough about options
22:06 <BabyBug> lol?
22:06 <epsy> it's repeating itself over and over and over
22:06 <epsy> YAY ARGUMENTS
22:07 <BabyBug> just skip the the code.....it's simple to use, don't need to read about it!
22:07 <epsy> there's close to nothing about arguments until 60% of the page >.>
22:08 <epsy> darn is there a damn plain reference >.>
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22:45 <epsy> errr
22:46 <epsy> how do I get both member name and value from a dict using "for .. in .." ?
22:46 <epsy> for (var,val) in mydict: gives an error
22:47 <BabyBug> for key, value in dict:
22:47 <epsy> ValueError: too many values to unpack
22:48 <epsy> print myDict shows what you would expect:
22:48 <epsy> {'ZNR': 0, 'BRANCHURL': '', 'REVNO': 0, 'CHANGED': True, 'BUILDDATE': 'Mon, 09 Mar 2009 22:44:19 +0000', 'BRANCHLCA': 0, 'REVTAG': '', 'BRANCHLCAZ': 0, 'REVID': 0, 'BRANCHNICK': ''}
22:49 <BabyBug> ermm
22:49 <BabyBug> oh yeh silly me
22:49 <BabyBug> for key, value in dict.iteritems()
22:49 <epsy> ah right
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22:50 <BabyBug> that might of changed to just items() in 2.6..i'm not sure
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22:55 <Vanhayes> anyone know where the area code 1 505 is from?
23:14 <ct|kyle> #google Area code 1 505
23:14 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Search took 0.11 seconds: 1 - 505 area code - reported phone numbers in area code 505: <http://www.callferret.com/area-codes/505-area-code.html>; Area code 505 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_code_505>; Reported numbers in 1 - 505 area code: <http://800notes.com/AreaCode.aspx/1-505>; FINAL PHASE OF 505 /575 AREA CODE SPLIT TO BEGIN OCTOBER 5, (3 more messages)
23:19 <Vanhayes> ah thanks, its new mexico
23:20 <Vanhayes> they said i won a trip to cancun mexico if i had a credit card
23:22 <Lizmatic> who'd wanna go to mexico? it has mexicans in it
23:22 <Vanhayes> ha, racism!
23:22 <Vanhayes> the universal comedy
23:22 <Lizmatic> racism is my trademark
23:23 <Vanhayes> meh cancun would be nice right now, 3 feet of snow here
23:23 <Lizmatic> snow! I love snow!
23:23 <Vanhayes> not when it comes down 2 feet at a time and you have to shovel it
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23:24 <Vanhayes> then the freezing rain comes down and that 3 feet of fluffy snow turns into 2 feet of solid ice
23:25 <Lizmatic> awesome!
23:25 <Vanhayes> and all you can do is look into the sky say Fuck you, then start chipping away
23:26 <Vanhayes> oh canada our home and native land...
23:26 <ct|kyle> #quote get 72
23:26 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Quote #72: "epsy puts himself in the middle and eats it.  --epsy" (added by Lucifer_arma at 12:48 AM, July 28, 2008)
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23:29 <Vanhayes> #quote get 88
23:29 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #88: "Flex: you start your grind at the zone, by the time you get to the split it's weak, not to mention the guy is burning the same rubber.." (added by madmax at 01:15 AM, January 31, 2009)
23:30 <epsy> $ ./armagetronad --version
23:30 <epsy> This is armagetronad version TRUE_ARMAGETRONAD_VERSION.
23:30 <madmax> where's that BabyBug quote...
23:30 <epsy> I'll need to find out how to add quotes where needed at python-level :<
23:30 <epsy> #list quote
23:30 <@armabot> epsy: add, change, get, random, remove, search, and stats
23:30 <epsy> #quote search BabyBug
23:30 <@armabot> epsy: 2 found: #87: "<BabyBug> the thought of rabbit teeth near my..." and #90: "WoW is the game of satanists! -- BabyBug"
23:31 <madmax> #quote get 87
23:31 <@armabot> madmax: Quote #87: "<BabyBug> the thought of rabbit teeth near my clit is in no way sexy" (added by Lucifer_arma at 04:58 AM, January 18, 2009)
23:31 <epsy> right, back to python strings, right
23:31 <BabyBug> what are you doing epsy? :P
23:31 <epsy> how do I check if something is a string?
23:32 <epsy> BabyBug, writing a batch/make/version.py template
23:32 <epsy> so arma builds without cheats
23:32 <BabyBug> ooo
23:32 <epsy> making it effective is another task :(
23:32 <ct|kyle> #quote search lightning
23:32 <@armabot> ct|kyle: 1 found: #81: "GodTodd: that lightning is just God aiming for..."
23:33 <epsy> haha
23:34 <ct|kyle> #quote get 81
23:34 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Quote #81: "GodTodd: that lightning is just God aiming for luke-jr and missing" (added by ct|kyle at 07:50 AM, August 05, 2008)
23:34 <BabyBug> oh epsy erm.. type()
23:34 <epsy> then..?
23:35 <Vanhayes> #quote search pedo
23:35 <@armabot> Vanhayes: 1 found: #21: "<Luke-Jr_work__> btw, pedophile is good"
23:35 <Vanhayes> #quote search liz
23:35 <BabyBug> epsy, if type(var) == str:...blah?
23:35 <@armabot> Vanhayes: 2 found: #31: "<Fonkay> #eliza you are stupid <armabot>..." and #83: "<Lizmatic> wtfzomg ady-lucifer and lucifer..."
23:35 <epsy> ok
23:35 <Lizmatic> #quote search Lizmatic
23:35 <Lizmatic> o_O
23:35 <@armabot> Lizmatic: 1 found: #83: "<Lizmatic> wtfzomg ady-lucifer and lucifer..."
23:35 <ct|kyle> #quote get 31
23:36 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Quote #31: "<Fonkay> #eliza you are stupid <armabot> Fonkay: Why do you say i are stupid?" (added by Vanhayes at 01:05 AM, November 02, 2006)
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23:37 <nsh22> herro
23:38 <nsh22> !loli rape guest7700
23:38 <epsy> DARN
23:38 <nsh22> oops, wrong channel
23:38 <epsy> python wants True and C++ wants true
23:38 <Vanhayes> rape him good
23:38 <nsh22> Vanhayes: i was beaten...
23:38 <nsh22> #anime
23:39 <BabyBug> epsy, and?
23:39 <epsy> and that's annoying
23:39 <Vanhayes> you tride to rape someon and got beat?
23:39 <nsh22> nsh22 attempts to fight for guest7700's lolis, but nsh22 is stopped by the defenses! nsh22 lost 4 warriors. guest7700 lost 3 guardians and 2 warriors.
23:39 <BabyBug> epsy, make a global variable then... true = True
23:39 <BabyBug> :P
23:39 <epsy> no >.>
23:39 <BabyBug> xD
23:43 <epsy> ok, that works
23:44 <epsy> I feel like forgetting something
23:48 <ct|kyle> how can a change a strings encoding in python BabyBug
23:49 <BabyBug> encode()?
23:49 <epsy> that looks like working
23:51 <epsy> push'd

Log from 2009-03-10:
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00:01 <epsy> nighty
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00:49 <BabyBug> Hiiiiiiiiii!!
00:49 <ct|kyle> oiiiiiii!!
00:50 <BabyBug> zmanuel, why isn't the dedicated server just bundled with the client if you try to discourage people hosting hybrid servers?
00:51 <luke-jr> because most people don't need more than the client?
00:51 <luke-jr> a better question is why we don't have server-less builds, IMO ;P
00:52 <zmanuel> Because hybrids are still useful for LAN play.
00:52 <zmanuel> (answers both questions :P)
00:52 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-cmake] r899 Hacky build of dedicated can be done by setting DEDICATED=ON...
00:52 <luke-jr> zmanuel: existence of server-less builds breaks hybrid clients how? ;)
00:53 <zmanuel> existence doesn't break them
00:53 <zmanuel> but what use is an additional build if you don't throw out an old build?
00:53 <BabyBug> luke-jr, your better question makes my head hurt
00:54 <luke-jr> ☺
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01:53 <nsh22> SINE!
01:53 <sinewav> Sup neal!
01:54 <sinewav> Exclamation poitnt!
01:54 <sinewav> You know who is crazy with exclamation points? compguygene. I might point it out to him soon.
01:54 <sinewav> :)
01:55 <nsh22> are you goonna make an essay about it?
01:56 <sinewav> No, plenty of them in English books.
01:56 <sinewav> ;)
01:56 <nsh22> yours are better :P
01:57 <sinewav> ty
01:57 <sinewav> I try hard to impress
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02:02 <sinewav> Everyone: I'm trying out yet another IRC client. Please be patient with me if things get silly for a few minutes...
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02:16 <madmax> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96dWOEa4Djs&fmt=22
02:16 <luke-jr> OMFG NO
02:16 <luke-jr> SINEWAV IS GONE
02:16 <luke-jr> CAN'T GO ON WITH LIFE…………
02:18 <nsh22> i could say something but i wont :P
02:19 <luke-jr> ..
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02:26 <luke-jr> YAY
02:26 <luke-jr> Brian Hil… is back !
02:26 <sinewav> :o
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02:26 <luke-jr> sinewav: it announced that when you joined
02:26 <luke-jr> [20:24:57] --> sinewav has joined this channel (n=BrianHil@adsl-76-197-246-93.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net).
02:27 <luke-jr> bad Miranda IM? :p
02:27 <sinewav> I just got it, trying to figure it out.
02:29 <sinewav> Is it bad form to use your real name ever? I really don't care if people know me...
02:29 <luke-jr> shrug
02:29 <luke-jr> you avoid it, it seems
02:30 <sinewav> ok, I changed it. I want to be like everyone else.
02:30 <sinewav> gotta check something. sorry for spam.
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02:31 <luke-jr> my real name is public; I only give fake ones to big companies :p
02:31 <sinewav> nice
02:31 <luke-jr> luke-jr is just shortened Luke Dashjr
02:31 <luke-jr> :p
02:31 <sinewav> what did it say this time?
02:31 <sinewav> when I logged
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02:31 <sinewav> ok thanks. I think I'll be happy with this client
02:33 <luke-jr> Freeciv anyone?
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02:33 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: poke
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05:15 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 10/1.2
05:15 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: 8.33333333333
05:15 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 15/1.2
05:15 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: 12.5
05:15 <Lucifer_arma> #fetch http://www.davefancella.com
05:15 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: '<?xml version="1.0"\n?>\n<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">\n<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">\n<head>\n<title>Dave Fancella</title>\n<meta name="generator" content="http://txt2tags.sf.net" />\n<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="style/main.css" />\n<link rel="stylesheet" (5 more messages)
05:23 <luke-jr> …
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05:54 <Lucifer_arma> #google math 37 7/8 inches in millimeters
05:54 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: Error connecting to Google.com.
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05:54 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 962/51
05:54 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: 18.862745098
05:55 <Lucifer_arma> oh good, I can fit 18 batteries in this tube, and I only need to fit 10
05:55 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 51*10
05:55 <Lucifer_arma> duh
05:55 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: 510
05:56 <Lucifer_arma> I guess I need to find out if these speakers can even be powered by 10 AA batteries before I build a case for it
05:57  * Lucifer_arma briefly considers if there's a cheap case that holds 10 AA batteries at radio shack
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06:24 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.toddsmith.com/prods/nighthack.shtml <-- shit
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> $17/ball
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> anybody want to buy me 3 globalls?
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> heh
06:24 <luke-jr> …
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06:25 <luke-jr> epsy: buy Lucifer_arma some toys?
06:25 <sinewav> good morning epsy
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> nah, I'll take those in the street and see what I can get for them
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> I'm almost decided to do a musical interpretation act of sorts
06:26 <sinewav> You don't say...
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> hey, it's almost guaranteed to do well, a juggling musical interpretation with fancy light-up balls
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> this is Austin, after all
06:28 <sinewav> I will be there first week of May. I'll look you up.
06:28 <luke-jr> sinewav: ooh come visit me too :p
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> hey do that, if I'm still here then :/
06:28 <sinewav> Where will you go?
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> if I don't score some sort of regular income, I'll have to pack up and go stay with my parents for a bit
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> they're in New Mexico
06:29 <sinewav> bummer. lot's of my friends going down that road right now.
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> if that happens, I'll probably hit up the recruiters and go for military service
06:29 <sinewav> harder to see your kids man... I'm sorry.
06:29 <luke-jr> I'd have done that months ago, but the stupid state of Nebraska won't let me leave. :<
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> I'm not too old yet
06:29 <sinewav> luke-jr: : probation?
06:29 <luke-jr> …
06:30 <luke-jr> not too sure what that means
06:30 <ct|kyle> #dict probation
06:30 <@armabot> ct|kyle: wn, bouvier, gcide, and moby-thes responded: bouvier: PROBATION. The evidence which proves a thing. It is either by record, writing, the party's own oath, or the testimony of witnesses. Proof. (q.v.) It also signifies the time of a novitiate; a trial. Nov. 5; moby-thes: 25 Moby Thesaurus words for "probation": acid test, assay, blank determination, brouillon, criterion, (5 more messages)
06:30 <sinewav> like, you got busted doin' some shit and have to see your PO once a month.
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> probation means you've actually committed a crime and been convicted
06:30 <luke-jr> nothing they have to bust me doing
06:30 -!- Lucifer_arma is now known as Lucifer
06:31 <luke-jr> sinewav: no, they kidnapped my kids because of theoretical future crimes that have not ever happened nor ever would
06:31 <epsy> morning
06:32 <sinewav> luke-jr: : aw man, that sucks. I'm so sorry for you. :(
06:32 <sinewav> I can't imagine what that's like.
06:33 <Lucifer> http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=7041036&page=1  <--- best news I've had all week
06:34 <sinewav> saw that. interesting. Most of my friends have abandoned religious faith over the last decade too.
06:35 <luke-jr> just demonstrates how stupid America is
06:35 <ct|kyle> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/10/world/asia/10korea.html?ref=asia
06:35 <luke-jr> heck, even if you don't actually believe in anything, it's just dumb not to take advantage of religious-exception laws
06:42 <Vanhayes> on the topic of enlisted, just curious how long does it takes to get into basic training in the states?
06:45 <Vanhayes> just wondering because a while back i seriously looked into joining here, and they said the application process took 6-8 months maybe longer
06:46 <Vanhayes> which seems way too long to me
06:48 <Vanhayes> probably part of the reason we have such a small armed forces
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06:53 <luke-jr> :o luci's on facebook
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09:34 <Lucifer> heh, I think it would be cheaper to take a black light in a portable lamp and use balls that are colored to light up in the black light
09:50 <Lucifer> http://www.amazon.com/FyreBall-Set-Standard/dp/B0018DXJBK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=generic&qid=1236674838&sr=1-1
09:51 <BabyBug> Mooooooorning
09:54 <Lucifer> morning
10:04  * Lucifer wants fire juggling balls
10:07 <BabyBug> lame.... :P
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11:02 <joda_bot> guru3_: Lucifer: luke-jr: zmanuel: I just read about Skype-Mods making their new homepage... I'm not sure how long they keep on providing their services (so a new site is a safe idea).
11:02 <joda_bot> Some guys in the thread are offering website help. Anyone else thinking about giving armagetronad.net a face lift ? if someone of them provides a nice design or a more userfriendly structure ? Make it a competition ? (I guess that worked well for the wall texture ?)
11:07 <zmanuel> Dunno. Just let that one guy show us his suggestions and have a vote on that. A full blown competition is probably too much.
11:07 <zmanuel> And frankly, I don't see what's wrong with the current site.
11:08 <zmanuel> but off I go.
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11:10 <guru3> i just wish we had a phpbb3 theme
11:10 <BabyBug> isn't it possible just to port the phpbb2 theme?
11:10 <guru3> not easily
11:11 <guru3> they weren't designed to be compatible
11:14 <BabyBug> :s
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11:20 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r920 Tailchasing now sort of works....
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11:51 <@armabot> armagetronad: guru3 * r9137 /www/mainsite/links.php: mentors link
12:48 <joda_bot> guru3: do you have any preferences on what phpbb theme you want to have customized ?
12:48 <joda_bot> guru3: or atleast how it should be ... ?
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16:07 <guru3> joda_bot: something armagetron themed, and light colored
16:11 <joda_bot> guru3: if can provide me with a base phpbb layout. I might have a look at it - the less layout changes you want the better I guess
16:11 <joda_bot> changing colors, fonts and images is easier
16:11 <guru3> tjhe current theme is based on subsilver2
16:11 <guru3> there's a subsilver 2 for phpbb3
16:12 <guru3> i think it _might_ be as easy as updating the images and css
16:12 <guru3> then tweaking all the margins and paddings until it looks nearly the same
16:12 <joda_bot> guru3: I'm not really competent to decide what a makes "forum theme" user friendly or good
16:12 <guru3> im not either
16:12 <joda_bot> so just point me to a direction or make it a topic :D
16:12 <guru3> i'm not a UI designer
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16:13 <joda_bot> perhaps the user base should suggest and vote on a theme, and then I'll have a go at customizing it
16:13 <guru3> as near as i can work out
16:13 <guru3> the only difference between themes are the images
16:13 <guru3> layouts more or less stay the same
16:13 <joda_bot> really ...?
16:13 <guru3> well, where are you going to move the poster's name too?
16:13 <guru3> it's either gonna be the left side or the right
16:14 <guru3> profile link on the side or at the bottom
16:14 <guru3> not a lot of options
16:14 <joda_bot> I guess there might be different options on spacing and size
16:14 <joda_bot> that's what I call layout too
16:14 <guru3> i'd call the spacing just a matter of design
16:15 <guru3> but it all sort of rolls together
16:15 <joda_bot> what layout type apeals to the user base (excluding color and images :D)
16:15 <guru3> maybe ask lack how he did the original theme
16:15 <joda_bot> You want to use phpBB3 right ?
16:15 <joda_bot> IÄ
16:15 <guru3> yes
16:16 <joda_bot> I'll browse through the available themes later and pick some candidates, and we can get some feedback on that...
16:16 <guru3> but you know how in the current theme
16:16 <guru3> like the profile bar at the bottom is like a light cycle
16:16 <guru3> same with the newpost buttons
16:17 <guru3> cycles for forums on the main page
16:17 <guru3> that's the sort of armagetron customization i would like to see
16:17 <guru3> custom banner at the top
16:22 <joda_bot> same design or new one basically ?
16:23 <guru3> i'd be perfectly happen with the same design to be honest
16:27 <joda_bot> I'm kind of scared of the background :D
16:27 <guru3> heh
16:30 <joda_bot> guru3: you explicitly want a light background ?
16:30 <joda_bot> armagetron otherwise usually has more darker colors :-)
16:30 <guru3> it didn't use to be so dark
16:31 <guru3> the original moviepack floor afterall
16:31 <guru3> used to be the de-facto standard
16:34 <joda_bot> even tron is rather (dark) blueish and grey to black :-) constrasted by the backlitt-armors
16:34 <joda_bot> I kind of like the layout of this one ... compared to the others so far: http://www.phpbb.com/styles/demo/3.0/?style_id=3
16:37 <BabyBug> guru3, why not tar up the images from the current theme? Then post that on the forum for anyone to make a theme using them?
16:37 <guru3> may just do that
16:37 <guru3> joda_bot: i dunno
16:38 <BabyBug> =)
16:38 <guru3> looks standard but i don't like the user info bit on the right
16:38 <joda_bot> what did you want there ?
16:40 <guru3> like the current layout
16:40 <guru3> that info on the left
16:43 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Pathetique/sumo/hexsumo-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Pathetique
16:44 <joda_bot> so you just want the topic too ?
16:44 <joda_bot> How about:
16:44 <joda_bot> 1. Line               Author - Topic... (cut of after a bit)
16:44 <joda_bot> 2. Line               Datestamp
16:45 <guru3>  i don't know
16:45 <guru3> never given it much thought
16:45 <guru3> to my mind most all forums look exactly the same
16:45 <guru3> except for the stupid box being on the right instead of the elft sometimes
16:45 <BabyBug> which box? :|
16:48 <joda_bot> box ?
16:48  * joda_bot scratches head
16:48 <guru3> the one with the avatar
16:48 <guru3> and poster name
16:48 <BabyBug> oooo, it's sometimes on top aswell...
16:49 <BabyBug> looks better on top imo
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16:51 <joda_bot> BabyBug: ?
16:51 <compguygene> hi joda
16:52 <BabyBug> The poster info. Instead of having a column to the left, it looks nicer on top of the post =)
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16:54 <joda_bot> BabyBug: can you show me an example theme ?
16:55 <BabyBug> http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=301882 <--- vbulletin has it layed out as such :)
16:55 <BabyBug> Leaves for space for the actual post itself :)
16:56 <joda_bot> oh ok, now I understand
16:57 <joda_bot> BabyBug: but I'm actually just scanning phpbb3 themes
16:57 <joda_bot> otherwise it's a total rewrite of the theme (most of the time)
16:57 <luke-jr> joda_bot: wtf does Skype have to do with website?
16:57 <joda_bot> luke-jr: huh ?
16:57 <luke-jr> [05:02:49] <joda_bot> guru3_: Lucifer: luke-jr: zmanuel: I just read about Skype-Mods making their new homepage… I'm not sure how long they keep on providing their services (so a new site is a safe idea).
16:58 <joda_bot> luke-jr: ah ok, Radian wants to ease new players into the armagetron world, by helping over any voice chat system used on the new players end
16:59 <joda_bot> if a new player has skype he can get radian to help him out in the evening with learning arma or something like that
16:59 <joda_bot> I think it will wear off after a while, because you have to explain the same things over and over again but I like the idea/effort
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18:37 <luke-jr> hum
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19:57 <nsh22> hey hey
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21:11 <Concord> #si cafe
21:11 <@armabot> Concord: Fortress Café: Players (7/32): Ct_Concord, epsy¦×¦ (epsy@x/member), noob13, O--->, pH4Lk0n, Pink Taco, Sithy (Sithy@forums)
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21:25 <BabyBug> zooooohoooooo
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21:37 <eddiefantastic> luke-jr: it seems the link for latest 0.3 dmg is broken: http://d.distfiles.aabeta.dashjr.org/0.3/0.3.1_alpha20090119/armagetronad-0.3.1_alpha20090119.macosx-universal.dmg
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21:37 <ct|kyle> hey eddiefantastic
21:39 <eddiefantastic> hi kyle :) how's things?
21:39 <eddiefantastic> you got me a 0.3 zonesv2 sty+ct build for me to play with yet ;)
21:39 <ct|kyle> pretty good, you must have a little more free time lately
21:40 <ct|kyle> eddiefantastic: working on flag zones first, they still don't work very well right now though
21:41 <eddiefantastic> Actually the opposite, I find myself playing this game when I have too much to do :S
21:42 <ivantis2> i find myself not playing arma at all anymore
21:42 <ivantis2> #ls ivantis
21:42 <BabyBug> then fuck off? =)
21:42 <@armabot> ivantis2: timed out
21:42 <eddiefantastic> haha
21:42 <ivantis2> why does babybug hate me?
21:42 <Vanhayes> its the 2
21:42 <ivantis2> aah
21:43 -!- ivantis2 is now known as ivantis
21:43 <Vanhayes> there you go
21:43 <ct|kyle> I bet BabyBug still hates you ivantis
21:43 <ivantis> why?
21:43 <ivantis> she used to be nice
21:43 <epsy> can you stop talking to someone with no voice ? :D
21:43 <ct|kyle> she hates everyone except Lizmatic
21:43 <epsy> lol, i'd slap kyle
21:44 <Vanhayes> sexism it seems
21:44 <ivantis> isnt there another girl in here?
21:44 <ivantis> like uh...
21:44 <ivantis> well i remember a girl being in here a while ago
21:44  * BabyBug agrees with ct|kyle 
21:44 <Vanhayes> fonkay but she just lurks
21:44 <ivantis> right fonkay
21:44 <Lizmatic> zmanuel is a girl too
21:45 <ivantis> you have an army of 3
21:45 <ct|kyle> kind of weird to have someone agree with me but still hate me
21:45 <zmanuel> ...
21:45 <BabyBug> Liza, Genki...isn't there more?
21:45 <Lizmatic> hey ct|kyle, I agree with hitler but I still hate him
21:45 <eddiefantastic> I have a new pc with intel quad core, 4 gigs of ram, a gf g200 video card with a gig of ram. How come I get drops to 30fps on arma?
21:45 <ivantis> yeah liza thats who i was thinking of
21:45 <Vanhayes> ive been called a girl but that was only when i played football
21:46 <epsy> bad drivers
21:46 <Lizmatic> haha
21:46 <Vanhayes> not soccer btw
21:46 <Lizmatic> HA
21:46 <epsy> HA
21:46  * Lizmatic laughs at BabyBug
21:46 <ct|kyle> eddiefantastic: probably because arma does not take advantage of multiple cores
21:46 <eddiefantastic> I can get mauled by a dozen zombies in left4dead without a stutter, but arma? it's a whole different ball game
21:46 <epsy> aren't *
21:46 <ivantis> mostly
21:47 <Vanhayes> but to be fair thats because i had just broken my wrist when a fat guy jumped on me
21:47 <epsy> and lag, too
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21:48 <eddiefantastic> I'm sure I used to get a steady framerate back a year or so ago on a lesser machine
21:48 <eddiefantastic> maybe that was 0.2.8
21:49 <eddiefantastic> anyway. I have to go beat the last level of Crayon Physics Deluxe. Bye bye
21:51 <Vanhayes> is that a crayon simulator?
21:52 <eddiefantastic> something like that
21:52 <Vanhayes> is it free to download?
21:52 <eddiefantastic> you draw things and they react to gravity
21:52 <eddiefantastic> you can get a demo with the first dozen or som levels
21:52 <eddiefantastic> it's $20 to buy
21:53 <eddiefantastic> you can draw cranes and all sorts
21:53 <ct|kyle> #quote search #crazy-tronners goat
21:53 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r921 Moved fortress defense into own file in zone folder....
21:53 <Vanhayes> gonna have to check that out later on tonight
21:53 <@armabot> ct|kyle: 1 found: #2: "(11:44:13) eddiefantastic: I'd rather stick my..."
21:53 <Vanhayes> ... finish that quote
21:54 <ct|kyle> #quote get #crazy-tronners 2
21:54 <Vanhayes> #quote get 2
21:54 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Quote #2: "(11:44:13) eddiefantastic: I'd rather stick my cock in a jar of honey, roll it in oats then feed it to a goat" (added by ct|kyle at 05:49 PM, December 12, 2007)
21:54 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #2: "God gave me fingers and a clitoris, I mean, it's pretty obvious. --Lola Garcia" (added by Lucifer_arma at 07:07 AM, March 24, 2006)
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21:55 <Vanhayes> wow those were both good quotes
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21:59 <eddiefantastic> I beat it!
21:59 <eddiefantastic> Damn, now I need to clean the house :( bye
21:59 <ct|kyle> see you eddiefantastic
21:59 <ivantis2> see ya eddie
22:01 <epsy> darn, this theme doesn't respect date format ..
22:01  * fonkay does more than lurk.
22:02 <fonkay> tyvm
22:02  * BabyBug disagrees
22:02 <fonkay> You guys just never talk about anything I can join in on.
22:04 <Lizmatic> like.. STDs?
22:04 <Lizmatic> !!11!
22:04 <Vanhayes> know idea why you wouldnt want to join in on talks like those...
22:04 <Vanhayes> no*
22:05 <fonkay> also, i work or sleep at peak chat times.
22:07 <fonkay> most people i talk with on here are on from like midnight-4am my time.
22:07 <Vanhayes> thats true alot of people are either in europe or insomniacs
22:08 <|sol|> I'm both
22:09 <Vanhayes> I just need to start working again, I always stay up too late if there isnt anything I need to do in the morning
22:09 <Vanhayes> fonkay: you still in N.S?
22:10 <fonkay> yes sir
22:10 <fonkay> 19 years and counting
22:10 <joda_bot1> fonkay: when did you join the millitary ? :D
22:11 <Vanhayes> were you one of the ones who lost power a few weeks ago from that huge storm?
22:11 <fonkay> nope
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22:11 <fonkay> Never.
22:11 <fonkay> sorry... joda_bot: never
22:11 <fonkay> Vanhayes: nope
22:11 <Vanhayes> takes too long to join here
22:12 <fonkay> I live downtown hali, so even if my power goes down, it's never down for long.
22:12 <Vanhayes> ah ok
22:13 <Vanhayes> i was just wondering because the day i got back here from AB that huge storm hit and the power was out for almost 2 days
22:13 <Vanhayes> made me feel at home
22:15 <fonkay> I don't know if i'll ever leave here. I like it so much.
22:16 <Vanhayes> it was hard but i didnt want to end up working in the sav easy in town or a warehouse in saint john for mim wage
22:17 <Vanhayes> alberta wasnt too bad, it was  weird not having water or forest or anything around though
22:17 <epsy> boo
22:17 <Vanhayes> and the -30 or -40 wasnt very nice either
22:20 <fonkay> AB sucks. Even moreso now, what with their crashing and all.
22:20 <fonkay> Saint John is so depressing.
22:21 <epsy> qzctf7 was never included with q3 right? :P
22:21 <Vanhayes> you dont like old delapitated empty houses everywhere?
22:21 <epsy> err
22:21 <fonkay> Or the Cali-type fog.
22:21 <epsy> you have the same colors than the guys in #quakelive, fu!
22:21 <fonkay> *smog
22:22 <Vanhayes> keeps the sun down in the summer
22:22 <Vanhayes> and a weird reflective glow in the minter nights
22:23 <Vanhayes> winter*
22:23 <fonkay> last time i was there in the summer there wasn't even any grass.
22:23 <fonkay> it was lots of brown stuff everywhere.
22:23 <fonkay> icky.
22:23 <fonkay> I love Hali.
22:23 <Vanhayes> plus you got a nice sulfur mill near one of the biggest tourist attractions, dont know who thought that was a good idea
22:24 <Vanhayes> ya, halifax is probably one of most beautiful cities ive been to
22:25 <Vanhayes> saint john has its good sides too, the boardwalk is nice in the summer, usually have alot of good live music there
22:26 <Vanhayes> though most of the bands/artists are from NS
22:26 <fonkay> Until you walk 5 mins and you're back in the slums.
22:26 <fonkay> hehe
22:27 <fonkay> there are a lot less vagrants in nb though.
22:27 <Vanhayes> ya, i guess its not so much good "sides" and more just small little bubbles of good
22:27 <fonkay> they mostly hitch to hali
22:27  * Vanhayes has done that
22:28 <fonkay> ever make it to the fest last year?
22:28 <Vanhayes> well saint john has alot less people than hali does too
22:28 <Vanhayes> no, i was doing 24 and 4 in edmonton last year
22:29 <fonkay> wait, ok....the year you were here last then.
22:29 <fonkay> Has it really been that long since I was away for school?
22:30 <Vanhayes> ya, made it in 8 hours hitching to antigonish 6 hours back
22:31 <fonkay> fun fun
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22:31 <fonkay> ok, dinner time has begun. ttyl
22:31  * fonkay will try to lurk less.
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22:32 <Vanhayes> for some reason people wanted to pick up 3 guys that hadn't shaved showered or had alot of sleep in 5 days
22:32 <Vanhayes> ya, diner sounds good
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22:54 <nsh22> #q
22:54 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #72: "epsy puts himself in the middle and eats it.  --epsy" (added by Lucifer_arma at 12:48 AM, July 28, 2008)
22:54 <nsh22> #q
22:54 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #48: "i'm a woindwos user --MrBougo" (added by Lucifer_arma at 09:12 AM, June 24, 2007)
22:54 <nsh22> #q
22:54 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #59: "-Kick- You have been kicked from channel #armagetron by luke-jr (sorry)." (added by Lucifer_arma at 05:33 AM, September 17, 2007)
22:54 <nsh22> #q
22:54 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #3: "um, try spelling it wirght :) -- Lucifer" (added by Lucifer_arma at 06:22 AM, March 27, 2006)
22:54 <nsh22> #q
22:54 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #73: "<Lucifer> if you don't want to nitpick, don't talk to luke-jr (hi there!)" (added by epsy at 12:52 AM, July 28, 2008)
22:54 <nsh22> #q
22:54 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #86: "<luke-jr> I'm still grasping at corks to plug the holes" (added by GodTodd at 07:12 AM, January 07, 2009)
22:54 <nsh22> #q
22:55 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #49: "<ToddBot> #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo" (added by epsy at 03:52 PM, July 09, 2007)
22:55 <nsh22>  #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo
22:55 <nsh22> #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo
22:55 <@armabot> !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo
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22:56 <nsh22> hey lacka
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22:57 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1093 renamed SILENCE_ALL -> SILENCE_DEFAULT.... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1092 Reverting last revision for redunancy....
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22:57 <epsy> nsh22, don't do that, even if it doesn't wirj
22:57 <epsy> work *
22:58 <nsh22> ???
22:58 <nsh22> oh that
22:58 <epsy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IE3KdcTgrno
22:58 <nsh22> it could work very well if i changed the ! to ]
22:58 <epsy> not really, haha
22:58 <Word_> lol life of brian
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23:04 <nsh22> epsy: rofl at that vid
23:05 <epsy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjaaM7dGZQ0&feature=related
23:11 <luke-jr> eddiefantastic: click again
23:11 <@armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r9138 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/fetch.php: I discontinued service w/ DreamHost (D.distfiles)
23:11 <@armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
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23:18 <epsy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wgSDTABf1I&feature=related
23:21 <joda_bot> epsy: why all the youtube videos ? :D
23:22 <epsy> bored :d
23:23 <nsh22> theres so many ventrillio harassments :P
23:23 <nsh22> its sooo funny
23:25 <epsy> http://revver.com/video/1151675/ventrilo-harassment-twisted-sister/
23:27 <nsh22> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxpshB6K4cc&feature=related
23:37 <epsy> btw, while MrBougo doesn't look: http://www.own3d.tv/watch/fra3,12086.html
23:39 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Pathetique/fortress/twozonefort-0.3.5.aamap.xml: Resource by Pathetique
23:42 <Vanhayes> celebrity jeopardy is ridiculously easy
23:46 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Pathetique/fortress/dbdfort-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Pathetique
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Log from 2009-03-11:
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00:00 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1095 Made it possible to switch viewports in four player mode.... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1094 Also renamed SilenceAll variable intenally....
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00:37 <fonkay> #q
00:37 <@armabot> fonkay: Quote #65: "<Ady666> armabot, 1+2? [...] <Ady666> its thinking" (added by epsy at 12:14 AM, December 22, 2007)
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01:04 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r922 Coward now is only afraid to follow enemy walls closely....
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01:17 <Vanhayes> #night
01:17 <@armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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01:18 <luke-jr> wow
01:18 <sinewave> what
01:19 <luke-jr> does that mean the AI are now easier to tk?
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01:30 <sinewave> hmm...
01:30 <sinewave> My connection is suspiciously sketchy tonight.
01:31 <luke-jr> get a server from m…. oh, wait. ;)
01:38  * sinewave rolls eyes
01:39 <sinewave> Actually, I can't wait until I have money again. I miss my racing server.
01:48 <luke-jr> that won't fix your ISP tho ;)
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04:23 <Lucifer> fire juggling balls are not lame!
04:23 <Lucifer> oh, she's not here anymore to see that
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05:50 <Zurd> hey guys
05:51 <Zurd> is there any possible way to set up and host an armagetron server through a FTP server?
05:52 <Zurd> anybody home tonight?
05:59 <sinewave> Zurd: : say what?
05:59 <Zurd> can i install a sever onto a FTP server?
06:01 <Zurd> for instance, i have a ftp server with 1g bandwith and 2gb storage, can i host a server through it?
06:01 <sinewave> interesting question. I think it's up to your hosting service. Mine won't let me.
06:01 <Zurd> how would i try?
06:02 <sinewave> well, I think you should wait and see if a dev is available. I'm pretty dumb about that stuff. sorry.
06:02 <Zurd> darn, i'll have to ask them tomarow, gtg
06:02 <Zurd> gnight guys
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06:03 <sinewave> bb
06:03 <luke-jr> Zurd: FTP is a security hole; you should tell them to stop hosting it
06:03 <luke-jr> oops, too late
06:03 <sinewave> lol!
06:03 <luke-jr> sinewave: well it is
06:03 <luke-jr> FTP doesn't encrypt passwords at all
06:04 <sinewave> I'll keep that in mind.
06:05 <luke-jr> FTP was designed in the generation where connections were direct PC to PC ☺
06:05 <luke-jr> eg, you dialed in to the server
06:06 <luke-jr> back when encryption was to some degree illegal
06:06 <sinewave> oh yeah...
06:06 <luke-jr> (couldn't export it outside the US, so using it was impractical)
06:07 <sinewave> I remember hearing about that now.
06:13 <luke-jr> bored
06:14 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: I have flag zones almost working
06:14 <luke-jr> cool
06:14 <luke-jr> mayeb I should do my base respawn rewrite
06:14 <ct|kyle> they are a bit jumpy though
06:14 <luke-jr> but first
06:14 <luke-jr> let's ask an expert
06:14 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: hi
06:15 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: does anyone care if BASE_RESPAWN can be changed mid-round?
06:15 <luke-jr> sigh
06:15 <ct|kyle> some people do
06:16 <ct|kyle> shape->setPosX(tFunction(owner_->Position().x, 0))
06:16 <luke-jr> o rly? :o
06:16 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: wtf, ew
06:16 <ct|kyle> it works
06:16 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: surely you can find their speed and acceleration?
06:17 <luke-jr> though PosX/Y only support speed ATM :/
06:18 <ct|kyle> I don't know what tFunction is supposed to have, that was just a guess as to what I needed
06:28 <luke-jr> -.-
06:28 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: in this case, tFunction ( currentPosition, speed )
06:28 <luke-jr> where speed is negative if X/Y is decreasing
06:28 <ct|kyle> ah
06:29 <ct|kyle> O can get that I think
06:29 <ct|kyle> I*
06:29 <ct|kyle> that is probably why they are jumpy
06:40 <luke-jr> :p
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08:23 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1096 Removed obsolete (and wrongly calculated) goneRatio variable...
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08:30 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9139 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. NEWS src/engine/ePlayer.cpp): Manuel Moos: Reverting last revision for redunancy.
08:32 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9140 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (7 files in 4 dirs): Manuel Moos: renamed SILENCE_ALL -> SILENCE_DEFAULT.
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08:33 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9141 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/ePlayer.cpp): Manuel Moos: Also renamed SilenceAll variable intenally.
08:34 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9142 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/render/rViewport.cpp): Manuel Moos: Made it possible to switch viewports in four player mode.
08:34 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9143 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/eGameObject.cpp):
08:34 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
08:34 <@armabot> armagetronad: Removed obsolete (and wrongly calculated) goneRatio variable. This
08:34 <@armabot> armagetronad: fixes sensor collision reports; they would sometimes falsely report a
08:34 <@armabot> armagetronad: temporary wall behind a gridded wall as the first collision.
08:41 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r9144 /armagetronad/trunk/ (9 files in 5 dirs): (log message trimmed)
08:41 <@armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 9116 to 9143:
08:41 <@armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
08:41 <@armabot> armagetronad:  r9143 | bazaarmagetron | 2009-03-11 08:34:31 +0100 (Wed, 11 Mar 2009) | 5 lines
08:41 <@armabot> armagetronad:  author: Manuel Moos
08:41 <@armabot> armagetronad:  Removed obsolete (and wrongly calculated) goneRatio variable. This
08:41 <@armabot> armagetronad:  fixes sensor collision reports; they would sometimes falsely report a
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09:28 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r925 Merge from trunk... || [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r924 Fixed false emergency reports to the AI.... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r891 Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 9116 to 9143:... || [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r923 Switching to survival state when zone vanishes....
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10:33 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r927 Tweaks to trap sensor.... || [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r926 Moved follow evaluator into gAINavigator....
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11:37 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r929 Eviled up attacker AI.... || [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r928 const correctness....
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15:20 <Pathetique> luke-jr: I can't login to my SSH account that CompGuyGene set up for me on The Server Pharm...has the IP address changed?
15:28 <Pathetique> luke-jr: oic, compguygene sent me a PM last night.
15:39 <Pathetique> #ping
15:39 <@armabot> pong
15:39 <Pathetique> #whofarted
15:39 <@armabot> Pathetique farted!
15:40 <Pathetique> lawl
15:50 <MrBougo> #whofarted
15:50 <@armabot> MrBougo farted!
15:50 <MrBougo> I didn't!
15:51 <MrBougo> I thought it picked some random people up
15:51 <Pathetique> #whofarted
15:51 <@armabot> PinkTomato farted!
15:51 <Pathetique> there we go.
15:52 <MrBougo> eh
15:52 <PinkTomato> lol
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16:28 <epsy> #help whofarted
16:28 <@armabot> epsy: (whofarted <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "say $randomNick farted!".
16:28 <epsy> no random $randowNick commands please
16:28 <epsy> #alias remove whofarted
16:28 <@armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
16:29 <Pathetique> :(
16:29 <pruWord> #voice
16:29 <@armabot> pruWord: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,voice capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
16:29 <pruWord> xD
16:29 <epsy> #voice pruWord
16:29 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v pruWord] by armabot
16:29 <+pruWord> ty
16:29 <Pathetique> o.0
16:29 <+pruWord> does that work now?
16:30 <epsy> that?
16:30 <+pruWord> lol voice
16:30 <+pruWord> i am new at irc
16:30 <+pruWord> xD
16:30 <epsy> how didn't it work before?
16:30 <Pathetique> Is luke-jr in the house?
16:30 <+pruWord> i am trying to find out how to make a voice-chat
16:30 <Pathetique> rofl
16:30 <+pruWord> we have a pru-chan now
16:30 <+pruWord> :P
16:31 <Pathetique> IRC != voice chat
16:31 <epsy> use something like ventrillo or mumble
16:31 <epsy> CT uses mumble
16:31 <+pruWord> i have trillian
16:31 <Pathetique> ...
16:31 <Pathetique> *facepalm*
16:31 <epsy> IRC is an IM protocol designed for chatroom
16:31 <epsy> text ones
16:31 <Pathetique> 100% text based chatroom
16:31 <+pruWord> k
16:31 <epsy> not video or w/e
16:31 <Pathetique> 0% voice chat.
16:31 <+pruWord> ok
16:32 <Pathetique> </smackdown>
16:32 <epsy> IRC is more than 10 year old
16:32 <+pruWord> i always saw speakers next to epsy and concord in mibbit
16:32 <+pruWord> ok ty
16:32 <epsy> it means voice
16:32 <+pruWord> i thought it stands for voice chat
16:32 <epsy> heh
16:32 <+pruWord> :D
16:33 <+pruWord> i think i'll be here more often, after i finally found out how to use irc xD
16:33 <+pruWord> thanks a lot
16:34 <epsy> yw
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16:42 <luke-jr> Pathetique: compguygene's IP is fixed
16:42 <Pathetique> Still the same old IP?
16:42 <luke-jr> it should never change
16:42 <Pathetique> saweet.
16:44 <luke-jr> just got *my* email from gene
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16:45 <Pathetique> lolol
16:46 <vudiss> i wanna sex :D
16:48 <Pathetique>  /callvote kick vudiss
16:48 <Pathetique> #kick vudiss
16:48 <@armabot> Pathetique: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
16:48 <vudiss> ,
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16:53 <MrBougo> lol
16:53 <Pathetique> did he send anyone else a pm saying "wanna sex?"
16:53 <Lizmatic> just you, you're special
16:54 <Pathetique> rofl
16:54 <Pathetique> I guess so.
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16:57 <luke-jr> Pathetique: try now
16:57 <Pathetique> just did
16:57 <Pathetique> as if I read your mind
16:57 <Pathetique> fanfreakingtastic, luke-jr. ty :)
16:59  * luke-jr ponders a long-term fix
16:59 <Pathetique> What was the problem?
16:59 <luke-jr> HN lost the route to the VE
16:59 <luke-jr> when he rebooted
17:00 <Pathetique> HN = Host network? VE = ?
17:00  * Pathetique is a noob.
17:02 <luke-jr> bbiab
17:02 <epsy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCDc7W2P32I
17:02 <Pathetique> wtf is that shit?
17:02 <epsy> you :D
17:03 <Pathetique> I'm the green guy?
17:03 <luke-jr> HN = the machine running the VPS
17:03 <luke-jr> VE = the VPS
17:03 <Pathetique> oic
17:03 <Pathetique> ty
17:03 <luke-jr> BBIAB 4 realzx
17:03 <Pathetique> kk
17:03 <epsy> Pathetique, doesn't matter, they're both as funny :D
17:03 <Pathetique> lawl
17:06 <pruWord> #whoami
17:06 <@armabot> pruWord: I don't recognize you.
17:06 <pruWord> xD
17:06 <pruWord> whoami
17:06 <pruWord> lol
17:06 <pruWord> #kick vudiss
17:06 <@armabot> pruWord: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
17:06 <pruWord> lol fail
17:07 <Pathetique> epsy: would you get this for your car? http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/car/afe6/
17:09 <epsy> crap, I have a car?
17:09 <pruWord> lol how can vudiss(or i ) send a pm?
17:09 <Pathetique> idk, I thought you did.
17:09 <epsy>  /query guy or /msg guy message
17:09 <Pathetique> Would you get it if you had one?
17:09 <pruWord> he said "i wanna sex" to me too
17:09 <pruWord> #msg word
17:09 <pruWord> lol
17:09 <epsy> who was it ?
17:09 <Pathetique> some noob.
17:09 <epsy> nicks
17:10 <pruWord> vudiss
17:10 <pruWord> ty
17:10 <epsy> well, he quit the server anyway
17:11 <pruWord> do you know getdigital.com
17:11 <pruWord> my fav g33k site:D
17:12 <pruWord> oops
17:12 <pruWord> wrong link
17:12 <pruWord> www.getdigital.de
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17:22 <zurd> good morning, is anybody awake yet?
17:24 <epsy> no, we're all asleep at 6pm
17:24 <joda_bot> zurd: Zzzzzz ZZZZzzz please don't wake me
17:25 <zurd> i was just wondering  if it were possible for to DO, or TEST, weather i can install a srever to a web host through FTP and actually work?
17:25 <epsy> well, how would you START the server?
17:26 <zurd> dunno, why i am asking, maybe through the Url the server is installed to
17:27 <zurd> have the command prompt accessable through the web URL
17:28 <epsy> you can still try that
17:28 <epsy> heh
17:28 <zurd> how would i do so
17:28 <zurd> im just throwing out ideas
17:30 <epsy> well, just install it locally then copy files
17:35 <epsy> @calc 480/270 - 16/9
17:35 <teabot> epsy: (480 / 270) - (16 / 9) = 0
17:37 <epsy> @calc 320 * 270/480
17:37 <teabot> epsy: (320 * 270) / 480 = 180
17:38 <epsy> @calc 320/180 - 16/9
17:38 <teabot> epsy: (320 / 180) - (16 / 9) = 0
17:38 <epsy> okay, I is not dumb
17:58 <Vanhayes> #eliza you are dumb
17:58 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Why do you say i are dumb?
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18:00 <BabyBug> \o
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18:12 <BabyBug> z-man has issues
18:12 <luke-jr> http://lightfoot.dashjr.org/?page=vps
18:12 <luke-jr> one day special
18:12 <luke-jr> :p
18:12 <luke-jr> for the next 10 hours max
18:12 <BabyBug> luke-jr has bigger issues
18:13 <BabyBug> One day? lol... no ones going to buy them :P
18:13 <luke-jr> no?
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18:14 <BabyBug> your vps' are cheaper than arma hosting? :|
18:14 <BabyBug> lol
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18:15 <luke-jr> BabyBug: VPS has less support
18:15 <luke-jr> and less user friendly
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18:20 <luke-jr> there, sicne it's a 10 hour special, I put my phone number up :x
18:21 <epsy> wtf does "bc" stand for?!
18:21 <luke-jr> Before Christ?
18:21 <MrBougo> idk
18:21 <Vanhayes> british columbia?
18:21 <epsy> the command line utility
18:21 <MrBougo> "basic calculator"
18:21 <luke-jr> oh
18:21 <luke-jr> man bc?
18:21 <epsy> ..right..
18:22 <epsy> maybe I'll perhaps remember it more than 30 secinds now
18:22 <luke-jr> epsy: want a VPS? XD
18:22 <MrBougo> om
18:22 <epsy> no thanks
18:22 <MrBougo> um*
18:22 <luke-jr> starting at $6/mo
18:22 <MrBougo> "basic calculator" is only mentioned on wikipedia's disambig page
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18:22 <MrBougo> woops
18:25 <luke-jr> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=204632#204632
18:26 <BabyBug> What kind of a VPS can i get for $0?
18:26 <epsy> the ones that don't exist
18:26 <BabyBug> well that's not very nice
18:26 <BabyBug> that's poorism!
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18:26 <epsy> sure it is not
18:27 <luke-jr> wish I could offer Europe VPS :x
18:27 <BabyBug> why can't you?
18:27 <BabyBug> i thought you had EU boxes?
18:27 <BabyBug> or box*
18:30 <luke-jr> BabyBug: not capable of VPS hosting
18:30 <luke-jr> O
18:30 <luke-jr> I'm in the market for one tho I guess
18:31 <luke-jr> wish so many of the sites weren't non-English tho
18:31 <Vanhayes> learn non-english then
18:32 <MrBougo> :D
18:32 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: non-English is many languages
18:32 <Vanhayes> really?
18:33 <BabyBug> Like Welsh! \o/
18:33 <ct|kyle> welsh is for idiots :P
18:33 <luke-jr> and French
18:33 <luke-jr> and German
18:33 <epsy> idiots are for welsh
18:33  * epsy hides
18:33 <ct|kyle> epsy is for idiots
18:34  * epsy goes grab some armor >.>
18:34 <BabyBug> you lot of just jealous of my beautiful language
18:34 <ct|kyle> mv beautiful crappy
18:35 <Vanhayes> is welsh an actual language or just a dialect of english?
18:35 <epsy> BabyBug segvaults
18:35 <luke-jr> Vanhayes fail
18:35 <BabyBug> just because you're too idiotic to learn it ct|kyle doesn't make it crappy
18:35  * BabyBug hits Vanhayes hard!!
18:35 <epsy> yeah, but let's face it, vim is better
18:35 <Vanhayes> is that a yes or a no?
18:35 <BabyBug> it's an actual language...
18:35 <Vanhayes> ill go with yes
18:36 <Vanhayes> whats iut look like?
18:36 <Vanhayes> it*
18:36 <BabyBug> umm...like a language? :s
18:36 <Vanhayes> i thought welsh were just english people from wales
18:36 <BabyBug> :|
18:36 <BabyBug> lkjsdfhlkjsdhg
18:36 <epsy> yeah, it's just that Vanhayes
18:37 <BabyBug> bitch, cunt, whore! we are nothing the english! :@
18:37 <BabyBug> like the*
18:37 <epsy> :D
18:37 <epsy> then move away
18:37 <epsy> push yourself out of england and bump on the celtics
18:38 <BabyBug> ...
18:38 <BabyBug> i would if i could!
18:38 <Vanhayes> go ira on there ass
18:38 <epsy> :D
18:38 <Vanhayes> their*
18:38 <BabyBug> when i rule the world, england won't exist
18:38 <Vanhayes> when I rule the worl every country will have a number instead of a name
18:39 <ct|kyle> but BabyBug I killed you 3 or 4 times, so you are dead you will never rule the world
18:39 <BabyBug> #kick ct|kyle still alive and kicking... get it? kicking...i just kicked you.. ^^
18:39 <Vanhayes> doesnt the bible say the dead shall inherit the world?
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18:39 <BabyBug> 8-)
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18:39 <ct|kyle> wwhhhhhhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeee
18:40 <epsy> ARGH
18:41 <ct|kyle> my classmates and I overthrew our professor last week LOL
18:42 <wrtlprnft> argh, yet another spambot is posting around the forums :o
18:42 <BabyBug> that's not a very nice thing to call epsy wrtlprnft
18:42 <wrtlprnft> epsy?
18:42 <epsy> wrtlprnft?
18:42 <wrtlprnft> where did i mention epsy?
18:42 <wrtlprnft> hi there, btw
18:43 <luke-jr> actually, maybe I can do VPS in Europe :o
18:43 <epsy> hi there
18:43 <BabyBug> it was a joke... >.<
18:43 <BabyBug> zeesh!
18:43 <BabyBug> tough crowd...
18:43 <epsy> a welsh one
18:43 <Pathetique> ct|kyle: what'd you do?
18:43 <BabyBug> cei di ceg! :P
18:43 <epsy> :DD
18:43 <ct|kyle> P
18:44 <Vanhayes> are the welsh celtic?
18:44 <ct|kyle> Pathetique: basically told him the book sucks, he can't teach and that there were too many homework problems.
18:44 <Pathetique> LOL
18:44 <Pathetique> And so what hahappened?
18:44 <epsy> what does he teach btw?
18:44 <ct|kyle> so now he is only grading the first 14 problems any after that is extra cedit
18:44 <ct|kyle> physics
18:44 <epsy> heh
18:44 <Pathetique> nice!
18:45 <ct|kyle> I got a 68%  on first test everyone else was between 29% and 40%
18:45 <Pathetique> :o
18:46 <ct|kyle> the class started with 16 and we are down to 5
18:46 <Pathetique> Makes sense that he can't teach, then.
18:47 <ct|kyle> ya, but he still dose not understand that
18:47 <Pathetique> Too late to switch out?
18:47 <epsy> * is and..now how I am going to do OR ?
18:47 <Pathetique> | ?
18:48 <epsy> (standard_in) 1: illegal character: |
18:48 <epsy> (standard_in) 1: parse error
18:48 <ct|kyle> pretty much so, I can still drop it if I have to
18:48 <epsy> Pathetique, math parser
18:48 <Pathetique> oic
18:48 <Pathetique> idk
18:49 <Pathetique> rtfm or maybe even lmgtfy.com/?q=OR+math+parser
18:49 <Pathetique> :D
18:49 <Pathetique> lolol
18:49 <BabyBug> epsy, ||?
18:49 <Pathetique> btw
18:50 <Pathetique> If someone here was the first person to clue me in to that site, kudos to you.
18:50 <Pathetique> I friggin <3 lmgtfy
18:50 <Pathetique> :D
18:50 <epsy> BabyBug, that's not math either
18:50 <MrBougo> Pathetique, it has a live log too
18:50 <MrBougo> not so live
18:50 <MrBougo> and it's got weird requests
18:50 <Pathetique> I know.
18:50 <Pathetique> I was watching it before.
18:50 <MrBougo> hehe
18:50 <MrBougo> for hours? :p
18:50 <Pathetique> epsy: perhaps you just type in OR
18:50 <epsy> tried that
18:50 <Pathetique> You're doing boolean maths I take it?
18:50 <Pathetique> o.0
18:51 <epsy> I'm avoiding doing multiple runs of the math parser
18:51 <Pathetique> CPU hoar?
18:51 <epsy> ah I think I have an idea that would work for bools
18:51 <MrBougo> epsy, what are you trying to do?
18:52 <epsy> x*(-1)+1
18:52 <epsy> :)
18:52 <MrBougo> hehe
18:52 <Pathetique> o.o
18:52 <Pathetique> wtf is that shit?
18:52 <Pathetique> LOL
18:52 <MrBougo> writing a math parser
18:52 <epsy> no
18:52 <epsy> using one lol
18:52 <MrBougo> which one? :p
18:52 <epsy> just bc
18:52 <MrBougo> eh
18:53 <MrBougo> || works in if statements
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18:53 <epsy> strange, man bc talks about ||
18:53 <MrBougo> you're trying to do boolean algebra in BC? :p
18:53 <Pathetique> perhaps you should try u*r*gay
18:53 <Pathetique> and see what you get
18:53 <Pathetique> see what it tells you
18:53 <Pathetique> yaddamean?
18:54 <MrBougo> it says 0
18:54 <Pathetique> lawl
18:54 <epsy> $ echo "u*r*gay" | bc -l
18:54 <epsy> 0
18:54 <MrBougo> epsy, u*r*gay + 1
18:54 <Pathetique> rofl.
18:54 <Pathetique> LOL
18:54 <epsy> :D
18:54 <MrBougo> bc is fun
18:54 <epsy> I'm officially gay+1
18:54 <Pathetique> nono
18:54 <Pathetique> you're just gay
18:55 <Pathetique> not +1
18:55 <Pathetique> the plus one makes you gay :P
18:55 <epsy> well no
18:55 <epsy> if I ask it if I'm gay it says 0
18:55 <Pathetique> lawl
18:56 <epsy> it's funny how bash concats strings
18:56 <MrBougo> epsy, better than bac +5
18:56 <epsy> $ echo "($vidwidth / $vidheight >= 1 ) * 0 "'||'" 1" | bc -l
18:56 <epsy> 1
18:56 <epsy> heh
18:56 <Pathetique> you silly linuxers
18:56 <Pathetique> :P
18:56 <MrBougo> eh
18:56 <Pathetique> rather
18:56 <MrBougo> why, doesnt bash like || 's?
18:56 <Pathetique> command-line hoars.
18:57 <MrBougo> or it's not bash, epsy ?
18:57 <epsy> apparently not
18:57 <MrBougo> $ echo "foo||bar"
18:57 <MrBougo> foo||bar
18:57 <epsy> wtf now >.>
18:57 <Pathetique> $ echo LAWLWUT
18:57 <Pathetique> -.-
18:57 <Pathetique> ic.
18:57 <MrBougo> epsy, if it's bash, you could just as well use bash's builtin math :p
18:57 <epsy> it sucks
18:57 <epsy> can only do ints
18:58 <MrBougo> oh indeed
18:58 <epsy> from beginning to end
18:58 <epsy> it led me to pretty weird shit
18:58 <Pathetique> have BC calculate Pi to the 100th place
18:58 <epsy> esp. if you're working with relations
18:58 <MrBougo> $ echo "($vidwidth / $vidheight >= 1 ) * 0 "'||'" 1" | bc -l
18:58 <MrBougo> are you calculating stuff, then multiplying it by zero? :p
18:59 <epsy> bah, that's just on my side bash term
18:59 <epsy>     if [ $(echo "( $vidwidth / $vidheight >= 1 ) * ( $2 / $3 ) || " | bc -l) -eq 1 ]
18:59 <MrBougo> lol
18:59 <luke-jr> epsy: why not use $(())?
18:59 <MrBougo> yeah
18:59 <MrBougo> and [[ ]]
18:59 <epsy> said it earlier
18:59 <MrBougo> stay standard :p
18:59 <Pathetique> =}O{=
18:59 <Pathetique> goatse!
18:59 <MrBougo> also, you can use a here-string
19:00 <MrBougo> $(bc -l <<< "( $vidwidth / $vidheight >= 1 ) * ( $2 / $3 ) || ")
19:00 <Pathetique> lawl
19:00 <epsy> who cares >.>
19:00 <Pathetique> he's just showing you how 1337 he is
19:00 <Pathetique> ;)
19:00 <epsy> that's the same thing put in another order
19:00 <MrBougo> echo is in /bin/
19:00 <MrBougo> here-strings are builtin
19:00 <MrBougo> no needs for pipes or whatever, I guess it's more performant
19:01 <luke-jr> MrBougo: echo is builtin too XD
19:01 <MrBougo> is it
19:01 <MrBougo> oh you're right
19:01 <epsy> yeah
19:01 <luke-jr> $(( $vidwidth * $2 / $vidheight / $3 ))
19:01 <MrBougo> there's an echo in /bin too :p
19:01 <luke-jr> there, avoid the fork
19:01 <luke-jr> :p
19:01 <MrBougo> but bash truncates
19:01 <epsy> luke-jr, that would cause crap
19:01 <luke-jr> MrBougo: that's why you multiply first
19:01 <MrBougo> $ echo $((1/3))
19:01 <MrBougo> 0
19:02 <Pathetique> apparently * is a way of saying "AND" right, epsy?
19:02 <epsy> darn, can't I do my little video resizer without trolls biting me?
19:02 <MrBougo> :p
19:02 <Pathetique> apparently not :P
19:02 <MrBougo> bash is sometimes hacky :<
19:02  * Pathetique troll troll troll *NOM*
19:02 <MrBougo> but it's real fun
19:03 <epsy> I forgot what I would put after the "or" part
19:03 <Pathetique> Its as much fun as a command-line console can be.
19:03 <Pathetique> ;)
19:03 <epsy> GUI console is fun as well
19:03 <luke-jr> epsy: what *are* you trying to do?
19:03 <luke-jr> tell me in C and I'll port to BASH
19:03 <epsy> blah, you will see
19:04 <luke-jr> btw, I just undercut fsckvps ;o
19:05 <Pathetique> luke-jr: would we be able to do scripting similar to what happens on Flower Power Sumo Assault with gene's vps?
19:05 <Pathetique> we = I
19:05 <luke-jr> Pathetique: uh, it's a VPS
19:05 <Pathetique> o.o
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19:05  * Pathetique is a noob.
19:05 <luke-jr> from your perspective, it's the same as a normal server
19:06 <BabyBug> you can do pretty much anything
19:06 <Pathetique> so if I can manage to be 1337 enough to install php, I can...
19:06 <Pathetique> hmmm
19:06 <luke-jr> oh
19:06 <luke-jr> well, *you* can't do that
19:06 <Pathetique> oh?
19:06 <luke-jr> gene could, he's root
19:06 <Pathetique> I see.
19:07 <luke-jr> you could get your own VPS for $6/mo and do it ;)
19:07 <Pathetique> lol
19:07 <Pathetique> perhaps when the money flow is more regular for me
19:07 <Pathetique> grocery store hours ftl
19:07 <luke-jr> well, the $6/mo special is just today
19:07 <luke-jr> :p
19:07 <Pathetique> oic
19:07 <Pathetique> hmm.
19:08 <luke-jr> basically, I've got a sweet deal on a new dedi
19:08 <luke-jr> but I need to get back to them by tonight
19:08 <luke-jr> XD
19:09  * Pathetique checks his bank account balance.
19:09 <epsy> damn no that's not the right thing to do
19:09 <luke-jr> epsy: ?
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19:09  * luke-jr peers
19:09 <Pathetique_> ftl
19:10 <Pathetique_> woo...$112.54 paycheck. ._.
19:11 <luke-jr> ._.
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19:14 <luke-jr> hi madmax
19:15 <madmax> hello luke-jr
19:19  * luke-jr wonders why that toll-free number rings his phone
19:19 <luke-jr> I mean, it's nice and convenient and all, but why? XD
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19:44 <epsy> good, that works
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20:37 <BabyBug> what works?
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20:40 <nsh22> omg I LOVE LINUX!!!!!!!
20:44 <MrBougo> :o
20:44 <MrBougo> that much? :p
20:44 <nsh22> actually...
20:44 <nsh22> lol
20:45 <nsh22> i just ran it on my comp, it loosk great, and im useing tehe 7.04 version so kubuntu will be much better :)
21:01 <epsy> BabyBug, http://pastebin.com/m52590c61
21:01 <BabyBug> epsy, what's that for? :|
21:01 <epsy> reencoding videos
21:02 <nsh22> i gots linux im so happy :P
21:02 <epsy> and determining the right resolution to convert the videos to
21:02 <BabyBug> i see...
21:03 <epsy> you see..?
21:03 <BabyBug> yes i see...
21:04 <nsh22> i dont...
21:04 <epsy> you seem so suspicious on me..
21:04 <BabyBug> i'm not
21:05 <epsy> http://serge.31.free.fr/SuiviFtth.php
21:05 <epsy> ctrl+f 78.192.34
21:06  * epsy is the only guy on that subnet rofl :D
21:06 <nsh22> ???
21:07 <epsy> @tea
21:07 <teabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (17/32): 'rope, .:] Corn (Corn1@forums), CTxGonZaP, GP RAM, joda.bot, Kamakazi, noob13 (noob13@ct), noob34, OliveLoft, Penguin, Player 1, pwMetal, viper, z3r0, Zop, ¦×¦ Black_hat
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22:58 <nsh22> anybody home?
23:00 <joda_bot> nsh22: I guess
23:00 <joda_bot> nsh22: somebody is always at home (out there in the far, far reaches of reality)
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23:05 <nsh22> joda_bot: lol
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23:14 <madmax> #tea
23:14 <@armabot> madmax: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
23:15 <BabyBug> #n9
23:15 <@armabot> BabyBug: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (0/16):
23:16 <epsy> #somerandomemptyserver
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23:24 <ct|kyle> #someretardedserverthatdoesnotallowmultithreadedbrains
23:25  * joda_bot noticed bot abuse :D ... but is powerless to interfere
23:29 <ct|kyle> joda_bot: where that #n9 BabyBug said?
23:29 <nsh22> ct|kyle: how did that flag fort thing go?
23:29 <joda_bot> ct|kyle: you tried to overload the poor armabot's mind :-)
23:30 <ct|kyle> I was just referring to what #n9 really is :P
23:30 <ct|kyle> nsh22: Flag fort is Almost working
23:30 <nsh22> yay
23:31 <ct|kyle> not commented or updated though
23:31 <nsh22> meh
23:31 <epsy> bot abuse, that makes me remember about q3
23:31 <epsy> just spam "lol" and they will all stop to reply
23:31 <nsh22> i thoik i founded a bug in 2.8.3beta
23:31 <nsh22> ]lol
23:31 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: "lol" is not a valid command.
23:32 <nsh22> ]y
23:32 <ljrbot> A yandere game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "]yandere" to join.
23:32 <epsy> ]yandere stop
23:32 <ljrbot> The yandere game game has been forced to end.
23:32 <nsh22> :P
23:33 <nsh22> #si fort
23:33 <@armabot> nsh22: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress: Players (13/14): 'rope, 0543, dev, Guybrush, hand, LUTHER BLISSET, meh, milan (milan@ct), niro (niro@ct), PerfectPsYk0, tain, thelastSunrise
23:33 <nsh22> #si neal
23:33 <@armabot> nsh22: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “neal” at the moment, sorry.
23:33 <nsh22> #si neal's
23:33 <@armabot> nsh22: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “neal\'s” at the moment, sorry.
23:33 <nsh22> #si neals
23:33 <@armabot> nsh22: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “neals” at the moment, sorry.
23:33 <nsh22> #si random
23:33 <@armabot> nsh22: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “random” at the moment, sorry.
23:33 <nsh22>  ____|____
23:35 <joda_bot> epsy: If I enable "hide my global id" will the user list  / IRC channel display my login ?
23:36 <joda_bot> #slap nsh22
23:36 <@armabot> joda_bot slaps nsh22 for being a raving moron.
23:36 <joda_bot> :)
23:36 <nsh22> #hug joda_bot
23:36  * joda_bot has hot bot sex with armabot
23:36 <joda_bot> :-P
23:37 <nsh22> ]alias add ]hug $2 [$1 hugs $2 because they like them}
23:37 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: Spurious "]".  You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands.
23:37 <nsh22> ]alias add hug $2 [$1 hugs $2 because they like them}
23:37 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: Missing "]".  You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands.
23:37 <nsh22> ]alias add hug $2 [$1 hugs $2 because they like them]
23:37 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: "$1" is not a valid command.
23:38 <nsh22> ]alias add hug $2 [echo $1 hugs $2 because they like them]
23:38 <ljrbot> The operation succeeded.
23:38 <nsh22> ]hug nsh22
23:38 <ljrbot> nsh22: (hug <an alias, 2 arguments>) -- Alias for "$2 $1 hugs $2 because they like them".
23:38 <epsy> ]hug nsh22 echo
23:38 <ljrbot> nsh22 hugs echo because they like them
23:38 <epsy> ]hug nsh22 kick
23:38 <ljrbot> epsy: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
23:38 <nsh22> ]alias add hug $2 echo [$1 hugs $2 because they like them]
23:38 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: "$1" is not a valid command.
23:39 <nsh22> ]alias add hug $2 say [echo $1 hugs $2 because they like them]
23:39 <ljrbot> The operation succeeded.
23:39 <nsh22> ]hug nsh22
23:39 <ljrbot> nsh22: (hug <an alias, 2 arguments>) -- Alias for "$2 say $1 hugs $2 because they like them".
23:39 <epsy> actually how did you get it to accept that ?
23:39 <nsh22> ]hug nsh22 echo
23:39 <ljrbot> say nsh22 hugs echo because they like them
23:39 <nsh22> ]hug nsh22 joda_bot
23:39 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: "joda_bot" is not a valid command.
23:39 <nsh22> ]hug nsh22 joda_bot echo
23:39 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: "joda_bot echo" is not a valid command.
23:39  * joda_bot loves ljrbot
23:39 <nsh22> ]hug nsh22 echo joda_bot
23:39 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: "echo joda_bot" is not a valid command.
23:39 <nsh22> ]hug echo nsh22 joda_bot
23:39 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: "nsh22 joda_bot" is not a valid command.
23:40 <nsh22> epsy: what?
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23:42 <nsh22> ]alias add ]hug $1 "$1 hugs $2 because they like them [echo $1 hugs $2 because they like them]"
23:42 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: Spurious "]".  You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands.
23:42 <nsh22> ]alias add hug $1 "$1 hugs $2 because they like them [echo $1 hugs $2 because they like them]"
23:42 <ljrbot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
23:42 <nsh22> ]hug
23:42 <ljrbot> nsh22: (hug <an alias, 2 arguments>) -- Alias for "$1 $1 hugs $2 because they like them [echo $1 hugs $2 because they like them]".
23:42 <nsh22> hug
23:42 <nsh22> ]alias add hug $2 "$1 hugs $2 because they like them [echo $1 hugs $2 because they like them]"
23:42 <ljrbot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
23:42 <nsh22> ]hug neal
23:42 <ljrbot> nsh22: (hug <an alias, 2 arguments>) -- Alias for "$2 $1 hugs $2 because they like them [echo $1 hugs $2 because they like them]".
23:43 <nsh22> #help slap
23:43 <@armabot> nsh22: (slap <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "echo $who slaps $1 for being a raving moron.".
23:43 <joda_bot> :-D
23:43 <joda_bot> #tickle nsh22
23:43 <nsh22> ]alias add hug $1 "echo $who hugs $1 because they like them"
23:43 <ljrbot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
23:43 <nsh22> ]alias add ]hug $1 "echo $who hugs $1 because they like them"
23:43 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: Spurious "]".  You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands.
23:44 <nsh22> hug joda_bot
23:44 <nsh22> ]hug joda_bot
23:44 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: "joda_bot" is not a valid command.
23:44 <joda_bot> Muhahah :D
23:44 <nsh22> ]hug joda_bot
23:44 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: "joda_bot" is not a valid command.
23:44 <nsh22> ]alias add hug $1 "echo $who hugs $1 because they like them"
23:44 <ljrbot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
23:44 <nsh22> it should work....
23:45 <joda_bot> nsh22: only if the bots are identical (software / plugin wise) which they aren't
23:46 <joda_bot> afaik
23:46 <nsh22> ??/
23:46 <nsh22> they arnt the same bot?
23:47 <nsh22> luke-jr: is ljrbot a supybot?
23:48 <BabyBug> nsh22, it shouldn't work. You're creating the alias wrong.
23:48 <nsh22> :(
23:48 <joda_bot> ]version
23:48 <joda_bot> #version
23:48 <ljrbot> joda_bot: The current (running) version of this Supybot is 0.83.3.  The newest version available online is 0.83.3.
23:48 <@armabot> joda_bot: The current (running) version of this Supybot is 0.83.3.  The newest version available online is 0.83.3.
23:48 <nsh22> BabyBug: how dould i do it then?
23:48 <BabyBug> don't put the $1 before the "echo....
23:49 <nsh22> is that all?
23:49 <BabyBug> that's all
23:49 <nsh22> ]alias add hug "echo $who hugs $1 because they like them"
23:49 <ljrbot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
23:49 <nsh22> ]hug babybug
23:49 <ljrbot> nsh22 hugs babybug because they like them
23:49 <nsh22> :P
23:49 <nsh22> yay ty
23:50 <wrtlprnft> woot, i'm a top ten poster!
23:51 <wrtlprnft> can i call myself a spammer now?
23:51 <nsh22> on the forums?
23:51 <BabyBug> that just means you have too much spare time
23:51 <wrtlprnft> yeah
23:51 <nsh22> lol
23:51 <BabyBug> which you should better spending coding arma 8-)
23:51 <wrtlprnft> i beat n54 a couple of posts ago
23:51 <joda_bot> wrtlprnft: on forums ?
23:51 <wrtlprnft> yeah
23:51 <nsh22> :P
23:51 <nsh22> ]hug joday_bot
23:51 <ljrbot> nsh22 hugs joday_bot because they like them
23:51 <joda_bot> wrtlprnft: congratulations
23:52 <wrtlprnft> thanks
23:52 <BabyBug> nsh22, try typing "jod" and then press the tab key...
23:52 <joda_bot> because "they" like them ?
23:52 <nsh22> yay it worked
23:52 <nsh22> ]hug joda_bot
23:52 <ljrbot> nsh22 hugs joda_bot because they like them
23:52 <wrtlprnft> they means you don't know if it's he or she
23:52 <joda_bot> the plural royalis for "nsh22"
23:53 <nsh22> well the bot doesnt know how to differntiate so....
23:53 <BabyBug> they can be singular aswell
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23:53 <nsh22> #tickle me
23:53 <nsh22> it dont work...
23:57 <luke-jr> hm
23:57 <luke-jr> wtf, ender never paid his first month's bill
23:57 <luke-jr> -.-
23:57 <nsh22> uh oh!
23:58 <luke-jr> ]last --from ender
23:58 <ljrbot> luke-jr: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 1000 messages.
23:58 <luke-jr> ]last --from e_n_d_e_r
23:58 <ljrbot> luke-jr: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 1000 messages.
23:58 <luke-jr> #last --from e_n_d_e_r
23:58 <luke-jr> #last --from ender
23:58 <luke-jr> #lastseen ender
23:58 <@armabot> luke-jr: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 50000 messages.
23:58 <luke-jr> :/
23:59 <luke-jr> f u bots
23:59 <@armabot> luke-jr: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 50000 messages.
23:59 <joda_bot> luke-jr: no :-)
23:59 <luke-jr> joda_bot: ?
23:59 <@armabot> luke-jr: timed out
23:59 <joda_bot> luke-jr: "f u bots" ... no
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23:59 <joda_bot> Ragequit ?
23:59 <joda_bot> lol

Log from 2009-03-12:
--- Day changed Thu Mar 12 2009
00:18 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r933 Fixed protected element access errors.... || [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r932 More tweaks, and now there's one attacker and one defender.... || [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r931 Attackers now only rarely die by accident.... || [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r930 Tweaked attacker....
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00:30 <Zurd> anyone familular with XAMPP?
00:31 <luke-jr> nope
00:31 <Zurd> hmmm
00:31 <luke-jr> Zurd: http://lightfoot.dashjr.org/?page=vps
00:31 <luke-jr> Zurd: one day special, if you're interested ;)
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00:44 <Zurd> damnit, why do you tempt me so!
00:45 <Zurd> you know i want it, can i order it, and post pone it to 3 months from now?
00:46 <Zurd> ARG!
00:46 <nsh22> btw, THAT DEAL IS GODLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
00:46 <Zurd> damnit
00:46 <luke-jr> Zurd: O.o?
00:46 <Zurd> i want it!!!!!!!!!!
00:46 <nsh22> i want it, but i wouldnt know what to do with it
00:46 <luke-jr> XD
00:47 <nsh22> zurd, why dont you get it?
00:47 <Zurd> >.<
00:47 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: do you have UK vps in pipeline?
00:47 <Zurd> i neeeeeed it too
00:47 <nsh22> no money zurd?
00:47 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: I'm looking for a good deal in Europe :p
00:47 <Zurd> i got money, just dont know weather to spend it...
00:47 <nsh22> just do it, its the deal of the century
00:48 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: good good :), I'm thinking of moving to eurpe :)
00:48 <luke-jr> O.o
00:48 <Zurd> neal why dont you get it, and cancle your server with him, and host 3 more server in its place!
00:48 <nsh22> and luke is too cheap to do it again :P
00:48 <PinkTomato> my VPS, I mean :)
00:48 <luke-jr> Zurd: shhh
00:48 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: ah
00:48 <nsh22> because i have no clue how to set it up and i wouldnt be able tp get the ct+sty patches and all the goodies
00:48 <luke-jr> XD
00:49 <Zurd> neal, if i pay for half and you pay for half?
00:49 <nsh22> unless lukes wants to do it (which i highly doubt):P
00:49 <Zurd> hmmm?
00:49 <nsh22> hmmm....
00:49 <nsh22> how big?
00:49 <Zurd> the 7$ one?
00:49 <nsh22> the 5 gbs?
00:50 <nsh22> cuz its 8 dollars CAN (which is awesome!)
00:50 <Zurd> if you want the 9$ then your paying 5$ and i'll pay 4 xP
00:50 <luke-jr> <.<
00:50 <nsh22> im in canadian so....
00:50 <Zurd> i think we're making luke nervous
00:51 <Zurd> what do you think neal?
00:52 <Zurd> luke-jr: where are they hosted?
00:53 <luke-jr> Zurd: either Connecticut or Georgia for now
00:53 <nsh22> luke-jr: have you sold $50 worth yet?
00:56 <luke-jr> nsh22: not one :<
00:56 <nsh22> luke-jr: so is the offer still being offered?
00:57 <luke-jr> for 4 more hours
00:57 <nsh22> have you been advertising it?
00:57 <luke-jr> I posted in the forums
00:57 <luke-jr> and told everyone like 10 times on DDL
00:57 <luke-jr> <.<
00:58 <nsh22> and you wont extend the sale i take it?
00:59 <luke-jr> I have to let them know if I want the server in 4 hours :p
01:00 <nsh22> oh
01:00 <nsh22> and the server is $50  i presume?
01:01 <luke-jr> ☺
01:02 <nsh22> ... we may make a conditional offer
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01:09 <Zurd> luke-jr, neal: join #zurd
01:09 <Zurd> or #armalukechat
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01:22 <joda_bot> ping
01:22 <joda_bot> someone awake ?
01:22 <nsh22> PONG!
01:22 <joda_bot> P4: still up ?
01:22  * Zurd yawns greatly
01:22 <joda_bot> ah nsh22 interested in testing a teamspeak alternative ?
01:23 <nsh22> erm... buy one of lukes vps' and i will
01:23 <nsh22> but i g2g soon
01:23 <nsh22> i need him to sell $50 worth of shit so i get my god deal, their half off if he does
01:24 <joda_bot> nsh22: whatever you're talking about
01:24 <nsh22> joda_bot: http://lightfoot.dashjr.org/?page=vps
01:24 <nsh22> buy one
01:26 <nsh22> luke-jr: are your tron servers half off too?
01:27 <joda_bot> nsh22: no :D
01:27 <luke-jr> nsh22: yeah, same thing
01:28 <nsh22> oh... i did not know that...
01:34 <nsh22> any1????
01:40 <Zurd> http://lightfoot.dashjr.org/?page=vps
01:43 <luke-jr> …
01:44 <nsh22> btw luke, whats a good irc client for ubuntu (i got it finnaly)
01:45 <luke-jr> Kubuntu?
01:46 <nsh22> no, just the live cd my it tech teacer gave me (ubuntu 7.04) yes i kniw, its ew, but it looks good :P
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01:50 <luke-jr> nsh22: probably X-Chat then
01:50 <nsh22> kk i g2 in 10 mins...
01:53 <Zurd> how many hits to your site have you got since this offer has been made?>
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01:59 <nsh22> ok well i g2g
01:59 <nsh22> good night and tty tomorrow
01:59 <luke-jr> Zurd: dunno XD
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02:18 <Zurd> SMOOTH ICE!
02:18 <Zurd> http://lightfoot.dashjr.org/?page=vps
02:18 <Zurd> !!
02:18 <smoothice> uh
02:18 <smoothice> 1
02:19 <smoothice> not changing providers at such short notice
02:19 <smoothice> 2
02:19 <smoothice> I still get more for $10
02:19 <smoothice> or not
02:21 <Zurd> dang man, who is your provider again?
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03:09 <@armabot> lpbugs: [341491] armagetronad.real crashed with SIGSEGV - Reset screen resolution <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/341491>
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03:19 <Zurd> luke-jr: whats the update on the new offer?
03:20 <luke-jr> update?
03:20 <luke-jr> O.o?
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03:51 <luke-jr> wtf
03:51 <luke-jr> [Thu Mar 12 02:50:26 2009] [error] [client] File does not exist: /var/www/armagetron/resource/htdocs/resource/MAP_FILE
03:51 <luke-jr> -.-
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04:01 <smoothice> luke-jr: who cares?
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11:44 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1097 Sound locks are now handled via locker objects instead of...
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11:59 <joda_bot> z-man: what was that automatic bug report thing ?
11:59 <joda_bot> z-man: can we integrate some crash reporter which adds bug reports to launchpad ?
12:07 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9145 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (6 files in 3 dirs):
12:07 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
12:07 <@armabot> armagetronad: Sound locks are now handled via locker objects instead of
12:07 <@armabot> armagetronad: lock()/unlock() pairs for exception safety.
12:07 <@armabot> armagetronad: Added a couple of locks that should fix random round end crashes.
12:08 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9146 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/eSound.cpp src/engine/eSound.h): Manuel Moos: Fixed sound muting when switching sound settings.
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12:46 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1098 Fixed sound muting when switching sound settings....
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15:36 <Zurd> good morning guys and gals
15:47 <BabyBug> morning
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16:21 <Pathetique> Would anyone who actually knows how to write C++ be willing to commit a change to gGame.cpp that I made? I made a hacky include of a file "spawntime.cfg" when the server sets the game state to GS_PLAY
16:23 <Pathetique> actually the file is "scriptet.cfg"
16:24 <epsy> put the branch up then do a merge proposal
16:24 <Pathetique> lawl ^^;
16:24 <Pathetique> First I gotta find it.
16:24 <Pathetique> Cause the one I just tried fudging didn't work.
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16:26 <Pathetique> What I remember doing was just copy and pasting the everytime.cfg code and changing it to work with another file.
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16:43 <luke-jr> Pathetique: bzr branch lp:armagetronad lp:~YOURUSERNAME/armagetronad/armagetronad-spawntime-cfg
16:43 <luke-jr> Pathetique: bzr co lp:~YOURUSERNAME/armagetronad/armagetronad-spawntime-cfg
16:43 <luke-jr> *make your changes*
16:44 <luke-jr> bzr commit
16:44 <luke-jr> then use the LP website to propose a merge
16:44 <Pathetique> I've somehow managed to lose the source files for it :|
16:44 <luke-jr> lulz?
16:44 <Pathetique> kindasortalulz.
16:44 <luke-jr> you probably need to redo it with a bzr checkout anyway
16:44 <Pathetique> ic.
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16:52 <Pathetique> luke-jr: The thing is the whole point of
16:52 <Pathetique> errm
16:52 <Pathetique> The whole point of the addition I made was to make it so I could have "scripted" game events on a sty+ct server without actually running scripts like Flower Power Sumo Assault.
16:56 <luke-jr> Pathetique: how does spawntime.cfg do that?
16:57 <luke-jr> if it's not useful w/o sty/CT, you might wait until sty/CT are merged before proposing it
16:57 <luke-jr> (you can still make the branch, of course)
16:57 <Pathetique> When the server sets the game state to GS_PLAY it reads and does whatever is inside of spawntime.cfg.
16:57 <luke-jr> yeah, so? :p
16:58 <Pathetique> I had hacked it a different way before
16:58 <Pathetique> doing it when it loaded everytime.cfg
16:58 <Pathetique> but obviously that didn't work.
16:58 <luke-jr> uh?
17:00 <Pathetique> What're you "uh"-ing about?
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17:22 <Pathetique> wb
17:26 <joda_bot> Pathetique: thx
17:26 <Pathetique> :)
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18:04 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r892 merge zones-v1v2-invisible branch
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18:23 <Pathetique> Does anyone know if there was a branch that made it so when you're first respawned you're really invincible for a period of time?
18:23 <Pathetique> Meaning you weren't able to be shot and killed
18:25 <ct|kyle> Pathetique: you could still be shot, but you could also go through walls
18:25 <Pathetique> Yeah, I know.
18:26 <Pathetique> I thought I heard someone said that they figured out how to make it so when you first spawn and someone shoots at you, you don't die.
18:26 <ct|kyle> it is possible to do, I just never saw it :P
18:27 <Pathetique> would you happen to know how we could do this?
18:27  * luke-jr ponders.
18:27 <ct|kyle> not off of the top of my head
18:28 <Pathetique> keep in mind I'm not 1337 enough to know how to write C++, luke-jr
18:28 <BabyBug> s/1337/geeky/
18:28 <PinkTomato> Pathetique: that was done
18:28 <Pathetique> Hao?
18:28 <ct|kyle> s/geeky/1337
18:28 <PinkTomato> not excactly how you describe it
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18:29 <Pathetique> HOw was it done? o.0
18:29 <PinkTomato> hoop made a patch that let's a shot damage rubber rather than killing you instantly
18:29 <Pathetique> Hmm.
18:29 <PinkTomato> Oh
18:30 <PinkTomato> and that respawn patch was also done
18:30 <Pathetique> o.0
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18:30 <PinkTomato> in fact maybe it should be put into the sty branch
18:31 <Pathetique> What respawn patch? The RESPAWN_TIME one?
18:31 <ct|kyle> it is in sty_ct only not applied to all death zone type :P
18:31 <Pathetique> -.-
18:31 <PinkTomato> It checked o see if you were invincible
18:31 <PinkTomato> if you were, then no kill
18:32 <PinkTomato> that's what you meat?
18:32 <Pathetique> yes
18:32 <Pathetique> invincible --> shot doesn't kill you
18:33 <ct|kyle> I don't remember seeing that in his patch he sent me
18:33 <PinkTomato> relevant discussion: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18682
18:33 <joda_bot> Pathetique: PinkTomato: that sounds like a sane bug report :D
18:33 <Pathetique> Indeedlydoodlydoo.
18:34 <joda_bot> submit the bug (and possible patch) on launchpad, and z-man might integrate it, if it does not have undesired side effects
18:34 <Pathetique> I'll write the bug report.
18:34 <Pathetique> a "shot" zone is its own type of dz, right?
18:35 <PinkTomato> right
18:36 <PinkTomato> here's the post  with the fix that does not include death zone: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=199047&#199047
18:36 <Pathetique> I don't think we'd have to worry about people running inside of deathzones while invincible, then.
18:37 <PinkTomato> hehe :)
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18:43 <Pathetique> PinkTomato: perhaps if you take the sty+ct+ivantis branch, remove that silly shit about impersonate and /suicide and such
18:43 <Pathetique> And then upload it and propose a merge
18:43 <Pathetique> Then I think it'll happen a lot faster seeing as its already been done.
18:45 <luke-jr>     if (invulnerable_ || !invulnerable)
18:45 <luke-jr>         return invulnerable_;
18:45 <luke-jr> will I get shot for that? >.>
18:45 <Pathetique> lawl
18:45  * luke-jr adds the missing _ to the second invulnerable
18:46 <Vanhayes> #tea
18:46 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (1/32): ((BsE))-KªºT¡ç~
18:51 <PinkTomato> It doesn't match
18:51 <Pathetique> wut?
18:52 <PinkTomato> cannot find    if (!dynamicCreation_ || ( deathZoneType == TYPE_NORMAL && !team ) )
18:53 <Pathetique> oic.
18:53 <Pathetique> hmm
18:53 <Pathetique> idk, then patch it :P
18:54 <PinkTomato> has ct edited the sty patch?
18:55 <PinkTomato> oh, that was a stupid question.
18:55 <Pathetique> LOLyeahkinda :P
18:55 <PinkTomato> any idea what !dynamicCreation_  is?
19:00 <PinkTomato> Oh
19:00 <PinkTomato> it is in the name, :)
19:02 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9147 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/tron/zone/zShape.cpp): Luke Dashjr: merge zones-v1v2-invisible branch
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19:06 <PinkTomato> Pathetique: How do you make spawn's invulnerable ? I forgot :)
19:06 <Pathetique> uh
19:06 <Pathetique> LOL
19:06 <Pathetique> uh
19:08 <@armabot> armacommits: [tools-php-client-trunk-work] r3 merge some abstractions for chat/cmd/auth/privmsg
19:09 <PinkTomato> Pathetique: the one that works with respawn_time?
19:10 <Pathetique> Ihnc
19:12 <PinkTomato> Pathetique: it was cycle_invulnerasble_time :)
19:12 <PinkTomato> ty anyway :)
19:12 <PinkTomato> OK
19:12 <PinkTomato> It is patched and working
19:12 <Pathetique> submit!
19:12 <Pathetique> :D
19:16 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9148 /tools/php-client/trunk/ (. armagetron-php-client.php): Luke Dashjr: merge some abstractions for chat/cmd/auth/privmsg
19:24 <PinkTomato> Pathetique: did you post bug report :)
19:24 <Pathetique> lolforgot
19:26 <Pathetique> done
19:26 <luke-jr> lulz wut
19:27 <luke-jr> dobbeyj? wtf is that?
19:29 <PinkTomato> lol
19:29 <PinkTomato> you can't choose your launchpad name
19:29 <luke-jr> eh?
19:29 <luke-jr> I chose my LP name just fine IIRC
19:30 <luke-jr> PinkTomato:  is that you?
19:30 <PinkTomato> Mine took the part before the @ from the email address I registered
19:30 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: yeap :)
19:30 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: stop forking 0.2.8 ☺
19:30 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: :)
19:48 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: you just inspired me to split invulnerability and blinking up, and make them net syncable
19:48 <Pathetique> lol
19:49 <P4> joda_bot: i was down :þ
19:50 <luke-jr> hm
19:50 <luke-jr> I should have made blinking be a tPolynomial or such
19:50 <luke-jr> controlling blinking rate
19:50 <luke-jr> but I suppose that's best left for when we can have square wave alpha
19:51 <Pathetique> or even a choice between sine, square, and triangle waves
19:51 <Pathetique> well
19:51 <luke-jr> Pathetique: I'd rather have the technicalities be math :p
19:51 <Pathetique> nvm
19:51 <luke-jr> any suggestions on a good math representation that is still simple?
19:52 <Pathetique> Square ftw
19:53 <luke-jr> square waves for alpha blinking anyhow
19:53 <Pathetique> perhaps like (in psuedo code
19:53 <Pathetique> )
19:53 <luke-jr> though I suppose a sine wave might be useful there too
19:53 <Pathetique> indeed.
19:53 <luke-jr> I'm beginning to suspect alpha shouldn't be part of tColor ;)
19:53 <Pathetique> Then you'd have to have to have a variable that holds an "acceleration" value for the wave
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19:54 <joda_bot> P4: glad your up again
19:54 <luke-jr> tPolynomial can already do that
19:54 <P4> i wish styball is as up as me :)
19:54 <P4> #si stybal
19:54 <@armabot> P4: Chico's Brake Boost Styball: Players (0/8):
19:54 <joda_bot> hehe
19:55 <luke-jr> hm
19:57 <luke-jr> so what is needed for best flexibility would be a series of tColors (or tGradients) with tWave "mix" values?
19:57 <Pathetique> sure
20:00 <joda_bot> #si stybal
20:00 <@armabot> joda_bot: Chico's Brake Boost Styball: Players (0/8):
20:00 <luke-jr> vector<pair<tColor, tWave>>
20:00 <luke-jr> ☺
20:03 -!- neSamone [i=evaldusi@187-173-70.elekta.lt] has joined #armagetron
20:03 <luke-jr> newbie?
20:06 <@armabot> lpbugs: [341875] Pigsty shots kill players even when they are just spawning and are "invincible". <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/341875>
20:06 <Pathetique> finally it shows up
20:08 <luke-jr> yeah, slow armabot -.-
20:08 <luke-jr> but it's the fault of RSS being crap
20:09 <Pathetique> indeed
20:09 <luke-jr> at least it showed yours ;)
20:12 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-net-vulnerable-blinking] r895 support syncing is-blinking over the network || [armagetronad-net-vulnerable-blinking] r894 move is-blinking logic to a function || [armagetronad-net-vulnerable-blinking] r893 allow server to determine when a cycle is or is not Vulnerab... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty-invulnerable] r892 CYCLE_KILL_INVULNERABLE function. When disabled, player is i... || [armagetronad-net-vulnera
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20:14 <epsy> yeah, lp updates it's RSS feeds not so often :/
20:15 <luke-jr> epsy: wait, that's LP's fault?
20:15 <luke-jr> wtf
20:15 <luke-jr> I assumed armabot was just taking forever to fetch
20:15 <epsy> yeah, that's the crappiest thing on lp
20:16 <epsy> #config search rss
20:16 <@armabot> epsy: supybot.plugins.Alias.aliases.davestupidwebsite"rss, supybot.plugins.Alias.aliases.davestupidwebsite"rss.locked, supybot.plugins.RSS, supybot.plugins.RSS.public, supybot.plugins.RSS.bold, supybot.plugins.RSS.headlineSeparator, supybot.plugins.RSS.announcementPrefix, supybot.plugins.RSS.announce, supybot.plugins.RSS.announce.showLinks, supybot.plugins.RSS.waitPeriod, (2 more messages)
20:16 -!- Zurd [i=629675b5@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8bc3c886b419abd6] has joined #armagetron
20:16 <luke-jr> LP + armabot should be changed to use XMPP pubsub ;)
20:17 <epsy> #config channel supybot.plugins.RSS.waitPeriod
20:17 <@armabot> epsy: Error: That configuration variable is not a channel-specific configuration variable.
20:17 <epsy> good luck with that
20:17 <epsy> #config supybot.plugins.RSS.waitPeriod
20:17 <@armabot> epsy: 300
20:17 <epsy> #config help supybot.plugins.RSS.waitPeriod
20:17 <@armabot> epsy: Indicates how many seconds the bot will wait between retrieving RSS feeds; requests made within this period will return cached results.  (Current value: 300)
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20:27 -!- compguygene [n=compguyg@cpe-76-189-167-60.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
20:27 <compguygene> epsy  are you there?
20:27 <epsy> hi
20:28 <Zurd> how would i create a table that locates the members in my clan, that are on arma... on my website?
20:28 <luke-jr> hmm
20:28 <luke-jr> can a Fourier series *really* yield a square wave?
20:28 <luke-jr> or merely an approximation?
20:28 <epsy> luke-jr, only when it snows
20:29 <compguygene> epsy, i never intended to offend
20:29 <epsy> I don't feel offended.
20:29 <compguygene> good
20:30 <compguygene> i was concerned that i had hurt your feelings
20:30 <compguygene> it was never my intention to "take over your tourney"
20:30 <Zurd> ping
20:30 <epsy> Zurd,
20:30 <epsy> #help lastseen
20:30 <@armabot> epsy: (lastseen <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/lastseen.php?player=@1+@2+@3+@4+@5+@6+@7+@8+@9".
20:31 <Zurd> epsy, what do you mean?
20:31 <epsy> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/lastseen.php?player=
20:31 <epsy> you could use that
20:32 <Zurd> but i cant just copy that code and have it follow my members, can i o.O
20:32 <epsy> well no
20:33 <Zurd> or can i, with permission from wrtlprnft?
20:33 <compguygene> just so you know...i am starting up a new tourney..for now i am going to use the wiki to coordinate things
20:33 <epsy> yes, he allows it's use
20:34 <epsy> you can also use
20:34 <epsy> #help armaservers
20:34 <Zurd> whats that?
20:34 <epsy> #help onlineservers
20:34 <@armabot> epsy: (armaservers <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/armaservers.php".
20:34 <compguygene> i will consider your offer of the webesite
20:34 <@armabot> epsy: (onlineservers <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "armaservers $*".
20:34 <epsy> sorry, I'll bbl
20:34 <Zurd> ttyl thank you
20:35 <compguygene> epsy thanks for everything...c u later
20:35 <MaZuffeR> luke-jr, i would say an infinite Fourier series can yield a square wave
20:35 <compguygene> zurd
20:35 <epsy> Zurd, also, there's one which returns an XML file
20:35 <epsy> can't remember it though
20:36 <Zurd> ok, i'll look
20:36 <luke-jr> MaZuffeR: yeah, but that would require infinite bandwidth?
20:37 <Zurd> wrtlprnft, you here?
20:38 <MaZuffeR> i guess, but i don't think you need that many terms to get a good enough approximation
20:39 <luke-jr> MaZuffeR: why approximate? :p
20:47 <luke-jr> MaZuffeR: you understand this stuff?
20:47 <Zurd> #lastseen
20:47 <@armabot> Zurd: Usage: #lastseen [-f] <nick> -OR- #lastseen -g <nick>@<authority>
20:47 <MaZuffeR> Fourier series? to some extent
20:48 <luke-jr> MaZuffeR: what variables would be needed to convey a fourier series over the network? ☺
20:50 <Zurd> can i search more than one person using the lastseen.php?
20:50 <luke-jr> MaZuffeR: do you have time to help me code this? XD
20:50 <MaZuffeR> not really
20:50 <luke-jr> MaZuffeR: will you later? :/
20:51 <MaZuffeR> tomorrow maybe
20:51 <luke-jr> hmm
20:52 <AshitakA> was sind join/part nachrichten?
20:54 <AshitakA> oops
20:54 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50871F4B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron
20:54 <luke-jr> hi z-man
20:55 <z-man> guru3: moar spam: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=204696#204696
20:56 <Zurd> big z-man is here
20:57 <luke-jr> z-man: do you know Foruier series stuff?
20:57 <z-man> sure.
20:57 <luke-jr> z-man: any idea on making that replace tFunction and tPolynomial? ☺
20:57 <z-man> replace, no :)
20:58 <luke-jr> O.o
20:58 <z-man> fourier series are strictly only for periodic functions.
20:58 <luke-jr> can't have one represent a sawtooth with an infinite interval?
20:58 <z-man> (they're sums of terms of the form sin(n x) and cos( n x) with n in Z)
20:59 <z-man> what's a sawtooth with infitnite interval?
21:00 <z-man> Fourier series and transforms (which are useless to us, because they're again arbitrary functions) only work on functions that are square integrable.
21:02 <luke-jr> z-man: a sawtooth wave, where the tooth never ends ;)
21:02 <z-man> so, a linear function? :)
21:02 <z-man> That won't be square integrable, I'm afraid.
21:02 <luke-jr> right, doesn't it apply to polynomials as well?
21:02 -!- AshitakA [n=AshitakA@pD9E0131A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #armagetron ["...See ya!"]
21:02 <z-man> no.
21:03 <z-man> We'd need both polynomials and fourier series.
21:03 <z-man> polynomials for stuff that's defined piecewise, and fourier series for periodic crap.
21:03 <z-man> probably best to go with a sum of a polynomial and a fourier series.
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21:06 <luke-jr> hmm
21:06 <luke-jr> so how do we get those combined easily? ☺
21:07 <luke-jr> and in a way that gets us infinite fourier series necessary for square waves
21:09 <guru3> z-man: i didn't even notice that ><
21:10 <BabyBug> is guru the only person who can get rid of spam? :|
21:10 <guru3> yes
21:10 <guru3> all hail me
21:10 <BabyBug> how silly =P
21:10 <guru3> not really
21:11  * BabyBug raises an eyebrow
21:11 <guru3> fortunately, it's one of those things i don't have to explain
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21:21  * joda_bot listens to guru3's spam filtering
21:22 <BabyBug> guru is spam
21:24  * z-man has limited spam filtering capabilities in the test servers subforum
21:28 <BabyBug> well you're just overfilling with usefulness arn't you 8-)
21:32 -!- emmy_arma [n=peiaeman@pc240018.static.is.airbites.ro] has joined #armagetron
21:33 <joda_bot> z-man: did concord organize the last ladle ?
21:33 <z-man> no.
21:33 <z-man> oh wait, maybe.
21:34 <z-man> why are you asking me? I don't pay attention to stuff like that :)
21:36 <luke-jr> z-man: so there's really no unified way to represent all the waves or a polynomial?
21:36 <z-man> There is, arbitrary functions :)
21:36 <luke-jr> well, then that's vValue, but it does far more than that XD
21:37 <luke-jr> and also difficult to reduce to tPolynomial or tFunction (with updates)
21:38 <joda_bot> z-man: just trying to figure out, who is in charge of tournaments usually :D
21:40 <joda_bot> lazy me, I'll just check the wiki or forum
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21:46 <Vanhayes> joda_bot: i think it was a few people that organised it
21:47 <Vanhayes> i think maybe 2020 and durka helped it
21:51 <joda_bot> Vanhayes: thx, I'll talk to 2020 but I'm not really sure but is there some documentation about who is charge or organises it ... because I'd like to learn abit about how it's organised to be able to help (if there is demand)
21:54 <Vanhayes> well im not to sure how it works anymore but iirc it was all player organised before so im sure theyd love extra help
22:00 <BabyBug> wrtlprnft, cafe is really jumpy lately =\
22:01 <Vanhayes> #tea
22:01 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (7/32): Guybrush, preSs, Sithy (Sithy@forums), Sugarpuff, ß|AoS|, Vanhayes, ~|DS|~AshitakA
22:01 <Vanhayes> BabyBug: who are you in there?
22:02 <BabyBug> Sugarpuff
22:02 <BabyBug> just left
22:02 <Vanhayes> ah ok
22:14 -!- ivantis [n=ivantis@63-245-159-78.kitusa.com] has joined #armagetron
22:24 -!- nsh22 [n=neal@unaffiliated/nsh22] has joined #armagetron
22:25 <nsh22> hi hi hi
22:25 -!- arrow [n=euclid@adsl-dyn40.78-99-184.t-com.sk] has left #armagetron []
22:25 <nsh22> luke-jr: how di dyour sale go?
22:31 <joda_bot> z-man: heh, ok atleast the main mumble devs is hanging out in #mumble :D
22:37 <epsy> kay, it's now just about being able to build both client and server
22:38 <epsy> oh, and writing an actual version tag, too >.>
22:40 <joda_bot> z-man: incoming information transfer :D
22:40 <epsy> I wonder if it builds on other platforms as linux
22:41 <epsy> than *
22:41 <joda_bot> (22:34:41) joda_bot: ok, we (armagetronad.net) just discovered this your software :-)
22:41 <joda_bot> (22:35:41) Hijacker: haha nice used to play that with a friend
22:41 <joda_bot> (22:35:43) Hijacker: fun game ;)
22:41 <joda_bot> (22:35:51) joda_bot: and I just wanted to see if any of the your developers can give us a pointer how to integrate some basic support for mumble into armagetronad :D
22:41 <joda_bot> (22:35:53) nsh22: yes, it is
22:41 <joda_bot> (22:36:07) Hijacker: joda_bot: http://mumble.sourceforge.net/Link
22:41 <joda_bot> (22:36:09) slicer: I can get to love these disks. Installing ET took less than 30 seconds. With the patches :)
22:41 <joda_bot> (22:36:26) Hijacker: joda_bot: that'll give your game positional audio support for mumble
22:41 <joda_bot> (22:36:32) Hijacker: slicer: what "disks"?
22:41 <joda_bot> (22:36:59) slicer: Hijacker: new SSDs.
22:41 <joda_bot> (22:37:03) Hijacker: ahh :)
22:41 <joda_bot> (22:37:03) Hijacker: nice
22:41 <joda_bot> (22:37:13) joda_bot: Hijacker: will it work for clients too ? or would the armagetronad server have to be combined with the mumble server ?
22:41 <joda_bot> (22:38:12) slicer: joda_bot: That is a clientside-only change.
22:41 <joda_bot> (22:38:28) Hijacker: joda_bot: this code needs to be added to the clientside of armagetronad. it will then communicate with mumble just fine.
22:41 <epsy> joda_bot, services are watching
22:41 <joda_bot> epsy: did my message get through ? :D
22:41 <epsy> [23:41] <joda_bot>: (22:38:28) Hijacker: joda_bot: this code needs to be added to the clientside of armagetronad. it will then communicate with mumble just fine.
22:42 <epsy> (that being the last received message)
22:43 <epsy> so better use pastebin, huh
22:43 <joda_bot> no it worked
22:43 <joda_bot> I guess
22:43 <epsy> services are watching, still
22:44 <joda_bot> epsy: ?!?!
22:44 <joda_bot> teach me, I don't understand what you're talking about ?
22:44 <epsy> * TITANIC quit (Excess flood)
22:45 <z-man> joda_bot: yeah, I had seen that page.
22:45 <joda_bot> ah good
22:46 -!- MaZuffeR [n=mazuffer@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has quit ["Ex-Chat"]
22:46 <joda_bot> z-man: how complicated / protocol version breaking would it be to add a url for the mumble server to the server info ?
22:46 <epsy> should OSX dedicated be built as an application bundle or not?
22:46 <z-man> on the trunk? Not at all.
22:47 <z-man> but why the server info and not just a setting you receive once you log into the server?
22:47 <nsh22> hey, was it intentional for to not have colour code capability?
22:48 <z-man> that's not even out yet :)
22:48 <nsh22> ... then
22:48 <z-man> And yes, some color code filtering is intentional.
22:48 <z-man> for example, colored chat is much more likely to be considered spam.
22:49 <nsh22> like i t doesnt even allow you to put it in. it just displays the colour code, not the colour
22:49 <epsy> feature not a bug
22:49 <epsy> it's just so you can easily edit it
22:49 <nsh22> ah
22:49 <epsy> actually it should show both color code and color
22:50 <epsy> #armacommits
22:50 <@armabot> epsy: [armagetronad-net-vulnerable-blinking] r895 support syncing is-blinking over the network || [armagetronad-net-vulnerable-blinking] r894 move is-blinking logic to a function || [armagetronad-net-vulnerable-blinking] r893 allow server to determine when a cycle is or is not Vulnerab... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty-invulnerable] r892 CYCLE_KILL_INVULNERABLE function. When disabled, player is i... (5 more messages)
22:50 <epsy> *sigh*
22:51 <epsy> oh, meh
22:51 <epsy> damn clock >.>
22:51 <epsy> https://code.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/trunk-cmake
22:52 <epsy> I send revisions in the future
22:53 <joda_bot> z-man: ah the settings sounds easier :D
22:53 <joda_bot> z-man: would mumble be automatically started in the background then ?
22:53 <z-man> Depends. If arma runs fullscreen, I think yes.
22:54 <z-man> but more importantly, if it already runs, the running instance does the connecting.
22:55 <joda_bot> hm, might make more sense not to start it in background, atleast until we know the player configured his mumble setup
22:55 <z-man> The automatic starting will be off by default.
22:55 <z-man> (I'd say.)
22:56 <nsh22> maybe have an option in preferences?
22:56 <z-man> yep.
22:56 <joda_bot> hm, I thought we might do a suggestion installer :D
22:56 <joda_bot> which offers to download and install mumble too :D
22:56 <joda_bot> just to make it easier for the windows users atleast, no idea about MacOS X ...
22:56 <nsh22> which release wouldf this be under, or like 0.4?
22:56 <z-man> 0.4.
22:58 <nsh22> when do we go to 0.4? (i.e. like after
22:58 <z-man> when 0.3 is ready.
22:59 <z-man> We'll definitely have to clean up sound and stuff first.
22:59 <nsh22> eta?
22:59 <z-man> when it's done.
22:59 <z-man> But we'll try to make the 0.3 versions as usable as possible.
22:59 <nsh22> okey dokey
23:00 <epsy> yeah, we're  gonna have no stable release series for a little while after
23:00 <epsy> sadly
23:00 <nsh22> i predict 0.4 (or if we go really fast) to be released on or around december 21, 2012 :P
23:00 <nsh22> for anyone who knows that theory :P
23:00 <epsy> we gotta be really fast then
23:01 <nsh22> LIGHT SPEED!
23:01 <epsy> yeah, damn lightspeed
23:01 <epsy> I mean - lightcycle speed
23:01 -!- pruWord [n=pruWord@p54A63BE3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #armagetron
23:01 -!- emmy_arma [n=peiaeman@pc240018.static.is.airbites.ro] has quit ["Leaving"]
23:01 <epsy> oh crap
23:01 <nsh22> lmao
23:01 <z-man> actually, lightspeed would be bad for development :)
23:01 <joda_bot> epsy: oh noooos :D not lightcycle speed :D
23:01 <epsy> that's going to be slow :)
23:01 <pruWord> my clan has a crisis
23:01 <z-man> what with all that time stopping business.
23:01 <pruWord> go on trongame.de if you want to save it
23:01 <nsh22> NANO LIGHHTCYCLE SPEED!!!! muhahahaha
23:01 <pruWord> xD
23:02 <joda_bot> pruWord: how will that safe the clan ?
23:02  * epsy has lightspeed, only for his connection, though
23:02 <nsh22> extrordinarily slow
23:02 -!- zurd [i=629675b5@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9a1c89646a35d4f8] has joined #armagetron
23:02 <nsh22> ZURD!
23:02 <pruWord> 3 of our best members quit....
23:02 <nsh22> your highness...
23:02 <joda_bot> pruWord: why ?
23:02 <nsh22> word, why?
23:02 <joda_bot> heh
23:02 <nsh22> and whom?
23:02 <epsy> he accidentally the whole thing
23:02 <zurd> hey nsh32
23:03 <nsh22> ...
23:03 <pruWord> 1st because he thinks we have too many members (while it was he who wanted a demcratic nclan"
23:03 <nsh22> WHO???
23:03 <pruWord> ), 2nd because chiko is making a fool of him in ctf and he takes a new name
23:03 <pruWord> and third is our cofounder who leaves because the 2 others do
23:03 <pruWord> lol
23:04 <nsh22> who quit?
23:04 <pruWord> tags, HadroN , opeth
23:04 <zurd> ccc?
23:04 <nsh22> oh...
23:04 <Vanhayes> what is pru?
23:04 <pruWord> at least tags said he maybe comes back
23:04 <pruWord> yes ccc
23:04 <pruWord> = had
23:04 <zurd> pru is a clan called please res us
23:05 <Vanhayes> a ctf clan then?
23:05 <zurd> yes
23:05 <pruWord> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=PLZ_RES_US!
23:05 <pruWord> lol i '' change it soon
23:05 <nsh22> luke-jr: PING!!!!
23:06 -!- pruWord [n=pruWord@p54A63BE3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com"]
23:07 <nsh22> #ping luke-jr
23:07 <@armabot> pong
23:09 <joda_bot> you'd think if a leader is not happy with his clan, then he could just change it ... I guess they just got bored and need a break :-)
23:09 <joda_bot> #help ping
23:09 <@armabot> joda_bot: (ping takes no arguments) -- Checks to see if the bot is alive.
23:10 <zurd> #ping luke-jr
23:10 <@armabot> pong
23:10 <joda_bot> hm, probably can't define an alias for ping :D
23:11 <zurd> #help pong
23:11 <Vanhayes> #echo #ping
23:11 <@armabot> zurd: (pong <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo ping".
23:11 <@armabot> #ping
23:11 <Vanhayes> aw
23:11 <zurd> #help zurd
23:12 <@armabot> zurd: Error: There is no command "zurd".
23:12 <nsh22> there is no help for you zurd :P
23:12 <zurd> >.<
23:12 <Vanhayes> #list alias
23:12 <@armabot> Vanhayes: monologue, r, roulette, #lags, #noob, /me, 42, aawiki, action, add, afl, aka, armaconfig, armapwnage, armaservers, armasettings, arrow, as, away, babel, ball, bigbrother, bigos, bing, botsnack, bounce, brb, bug, bugs, bye, bzr, bzrarmasty, c, cafe, calc, cat, cfg, cfg2, chainfight, chatlog, check, cheers, cinf, cink, commands, cookie, crashme, crazylate, ctos, ctwf, dance, date, (5 more messages)
23:12 <Vanhayes> wow lost of em now
23:12 <nsh22> ]list
23:12 <ljrbot> nsh22: Admin, Alias, Bible, Channel, Config, Format, Games, Karma, Later, Math, Misc, Network, Owner, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Status, Stock, User, Utilities, Weather, Web, and Yandere
23:12 <nsh22> ]list alias
23:12 <ljrbot> nsh22: roulette, /me, 8ball, a, aawiki, abstain, abstains, action, add, aka, armaconfig, blame, bzr, cheer, ding, fake, faustov, femalesheep, findyandereplayers, fist, flush, fuck, get, gishslap, give, h, hi, hug, hui, hurry, iamnotaretard, iamretard, inf, insult, is, itsalie, kcik, kill, lastseen, lbargue, lick, lickban, lock, logs, lolly, make, man, myip, nowai!, orly?, phokeu, pino, r, raep, (1 more message)
23:12 <nsh22> ]iamnotaretard
23:12 <ljrbot> aPinkTomatob cljrbotd ejoda_botf gTtech[daedalus]h iNovocainej kPinkTomatol mepsyn oNovocainep qteabotr
23:13 <zurd> ]list zurd
23:13 <ljrbot> zurd: Error: 'zurd' is not a valid plugin.
23:13 <zurd> >.<
23:13 <zurd> #list alias
23:13 <@armabot> zurd: monologue, r, roulette, #lags, #noob, /me, 42, aawiki, action, add, afl, aka, armaconfig, armapwnage, armaservers, armasettings, arrow, as, away, babel, ball, bigbrother, bigos, bing, botsnack, bounce, brb, bug, bugs, bye, bzr, bzrarmasty, c, cafe, calc, cat, cfg, cfg2, chainfight, chatlog, check, cheers, cinf, cink, commands, cookie, crashme, crazylate, ctos, ctwf, dance, date, (5 more messages)
23:13 <nsh22> ]iamretard
23:13 <ljrbot> wrtlprnft wrtlprnft P4 guru3 StickyNoob noob13 noob13 teabot tramshed fonkay ivantis madmax P4 G5 akira_arma Lizmatic ct|kyle mkzelda ivantis mkzelda Novocaine GodTodd fonkay tramshed Novocaine epsy
23:13 <Vanhayes> ?
23:13 <nsh22> #botsnack
23:13 <@armabot> /me licks nsh22
23:13 <nsh22> ...
23:13 <zurd> haha
23:14 <ivantis> whytf am i on there twice?
23:14 <nsh22> #cookie
23:14 <Vanhayes> she likes you
23:14 <@armabot> nsh22: (cookie <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "send $1 a cookie".
23:14 <nsh22> #cookie nsh22
23:14 <@armabot> I have sent a cookie to nsh22, it should arrive shortly.
23:14 <nsh22> :P
23:14 <madmax> #tea
23:14 <@armabot> madmax: Fortress Café: Players (9/32): akira, CTxGonZaP, CtxWoned, dopey, Guybrush, noob13, SolidifiedForce, Vanhayes, Z00
23:14 <nsh22> ]gishslap
23:14  * ljrbot slaps the channel around a bit with his epic gish.
23:14 <Vanhayes> wtf is a gish?
23:14 <nsh22> nother word for penis
23:14 <zurd> :o
23:14 <nsh22> i think
23:15 <Vanhayes> never heard that before
23:15 <epsy> he thinks
23:15 <nsh22> @gtfy zurd gish
23:15 <teabot> zurd: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=gish
23:15 <nsh22> go to that link, it will tell you
23:15 <nsh22> #cat
23:15 <@armabot> nsh22: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “crazy tronners wild catfight” at the moment, sorry.
23:15 <nsh22> #crazylate
23:15 <@armabot> nsh22: Babelfish has foiled our plans by changing its webpage format.
23:16 <nsh22> #ctos
23:16 <@armabot> nsh22: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo: Players (2/12): Blaze, [mho]ese
23:16 <PinkTomato> no, you should use urbandictionary for slang :)
23:16 <zurd> #night
23:16 <@armabot> Good night zurd!
23:16 <nsh22> pce
23:16 <zurd> >.<
23:16 <nsh22> #dance
23:16 <@armabot> nsh22 does the 'I killed chat' dance.
23:16 <zurd> #walk
23:16 <nsh22> #chat
23:16 <Vanhayes> #slap
23:16 <nsh22> kk ill bbl
23:16 <@armabot> Vanhayes: (slap <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "echo $who slaps $1 for being a raving moron.".
23:17 <nsh22> #slap Vanhayes
23:17 <nsh22> :P
23:17 <zurd> #help night walkers
23:17 <@armabot> nsh22 slaps Vanhayes for being a raving moron.
23:17 <@armabot> zurd: Error: There is no command "night walkers".
23:17 -!- nsh22 [n=neal@unaffiliated/nsh22] has quit ["gud bye"]
23:17 <PinkTomato> #slap #slap #slap
23:17 <@armabot> PinkTomato slaps #slap #slap for being a raving moron.
23:17 <Vanhayes> #eliza How are you today?
23:17 <zurd> #slap armabot
23:17 <@armabot> Vanhayes: What do you think?
23:17 <@armabot> zurd slaps armabot for being a raving moron.
23:17 <Vanhayes> #eliza I think you are still a bitch
23:17 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Please, watch your tongue!
23:18 <Vanhayes> #eliza fuck you i wont
23:18 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Are you afraid of sex?
23:18 <Vanhayes> #eliza you caught me
23:18 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Why do you say i caught you?
23:18 <zurd> roflmao
23:18 <PinkTomato> #eliza when will you mention my parents?
23:18 <@armabot> PinkTomato: What do you think?
23:19 <zurd> #eliza is there a word for what they call you?
23:19 <@armabot> zurd: What do you think?
23:19 <zurd> #eliza bitch?
23:19 <@armabot> zurd: Can you elaborate on that?
23:20 <Vanhayes> #eliza you are stupid
23:20 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Why do you say i are stupid?
23:20 <zurd> #eliza because you are
23:20 <@armabot> zurd: Does it bother you that i ask you that?
23:20 <zurd> #eliza i speak English...
23:20 <@armabot> zurd: Why do you say you speak english?
23:21 <PinkTomato> #eliza For a psychiatrist, shouldn't you be capitalising your 'I's?
23:21 <@armabot> PinkTomato: What do you think?
23:21 <BabyBug> .................................. more spam here than on the forums
23:22 <zurd> stop adding to it >.<
23:22 <PinkTomato> hehe, Eliza is a big time waster.
23:22 <zurd> #echo I'm stupid
23:22 <@armabot> I'm stupid
23:23 <Vanhayes> she does useful stuff to
23:23 <zurd> #clac 2+2
23:24 <PinkTomato> #calc 22 / 29
23:24 <@armabot> PinkTomato: Error: The command "calc" is available in the Alias, Google, and Math plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "calc".
23:24 <Vanhayes> #calc 2+2
23:24 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Error: The command "calc" is available in the Alias, Google, and Math plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "calc".
23:24 <BabyBug> try #g
23:24 <PinkTomato> #g 22 / 29
23:24 <@armabot> PinkTomato: 22 / 29 = 0.75862069
23:24 <zurd> #g 2+2
23:24 <@armabot> zurd: 2 + 2 = 4
23:24 <PinkTomato> No!
23:24 <PinkTomato> now I get the reference
23:24 <zurd> ohh thank you eliza, i couldnt figure that one out..
23:25 <ct|kyle> #g the answer to life the universe and everything
23:25 <Vanhayes> what reference?
23:25 <PinkTomato> that was armabot
23:25 <@armabot> ct|kyle: the answer to life the universe and everything = 42
23:25 <PinkTomato> 2 + 2 is 4.
23:25 <zurd> ROFL!
23:25 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galazy?
23:25 <Vanhayes> ah 42 finanally it all makes sense now
23:26 <PinkTomato> Vanhayes: that's the answer, but what's the question :)?
23:26 <zurd> #g (-3r + 4r2 – 3) – (4r2 + 6r – 2)
23:26 <@armabot> zurd: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
23:26 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, 6*7
23:26 <Vanhayes> the answer to life the universe and everything
23:26 <zurd> aww shes using googles calc...now i feel stupid
23:26 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: yes
23:26 <Vanhayes> #g 1 litre in gallons
23:26 <PinkTomato> or 7 by 9
23:26 <@armabot> Vanhayes: 1 litre = 0.264172052 US gallons
23:26 <ct|kyle> #base 10 14 [g 6*9]
23:27 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Error: Invalid <number> for base 10: 6 * 9 = 54
23:27 <Vanhayes> #g 1 gallon in litres
23:27 <@armabot> Vanhayes: 1 US gallon = 3.78541178 litres
23:27 <ct|kyle> #help base
23:27 <@armabot> ct|kyle: (base <fromBase> [<toBase>] <number>) -- Converts <number> from base <fromBase> to base <toBase>. If <toBase> is left out, it converts to decimal.
23:28 <zurd> #base 2.0394
23:28 <ct|kyle> #base 10 13 [g 6*9]
23:28 <@armabot> zurd: 2
23:28 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Error: Invalid <number> for base 10: 6 * 9 = 54
23:28 <zurd> :o
23:28 <PinkTomato> #g 7 * 9
23:28 <ct|kyle> #base 10 13 64
23:28 <@armabot> PinkTomato: 7 * 9 = 63
23:28 <@armabot> ct|kyle: 4C
23:28 <PinkTomato> #base 13 10 63
23:28 <@armabot> PinkTomato: 81
23:28 <ct|kyle> #base 10 13 54
23:28 <@armabot> ct|kyle: 42
23:28 <ct|kyle> :)
23:28 <PinkTomato> life is solved, ty :)
23:28 <ct|kyle> #help calc
23:28 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Error: That command exists in the Alias, Google, and Math plugins.  Please specify exactly which plugin command you want help with.
23:29 <Vanhayes> how much is gas a gallon in the states now?
23:29 <ct|kyle> #help math calc
23:29 <@armabot> ct|kyle: (math calc <math expression>) -- Returns the value of the evaluated <math expression>. The syntax is Python syntax; the type of arithmetic is floating point. Floating point arithmetic is used in order to prevent a user from being able to crash to the bot with something like '10**10**10**10'. One consequence is that large values such as '10**24' might not be exact.
23:29 <tramshed> about 1.90 here
23:29 <ct|kyle> #base 10 13 [math calc 6*9]
23:29 <@armabot> ct|kyle: 42
23:29 <tramshed> give or take ten cents depending on the gas station
23:29 <ct|kyle> there we go :P
23:29 <PinkTomato> #g 1.90 USD in GBP
23:29 <@armabot> PinkTomato: 1.90 U.S. dollars = 1.37591426 British pounds
23:30 <PinkTomato> #g 1 US gallon in litres
23:30 <@armabot> PinkTomato: 1 US gallon = 3.78541178 litres
23:30 <zurd> #g pie
23:30 <@armabot> zurd: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
23:30 <zurd> >.<
23:30 <zurd> #pi
23:30 <PinkTomato> #g 1.90 / 3.78521178
23:30 <@armabot> PinkTomato: 1.90 / 3.78521178 = 0.50195342
23:31 <zurd> #g pi
23:31 <@armabot> zurd: pi = 3.14159265
23:31 <zurd> >-< damnit
23:31 <PinkTomato> it's not 50 cents a litre is it?
23:31 <zurd> #g pi^5
23:31 <@armabot> zurd: pi^5 = 306.019685
23:31 <tramshed> sounds about right
23:31 <zurd> #g pi^12
23:31 <tramshed> math looks right
23:31 <PinkTomato> because that's ridiciolus.
23:31 <@armabot> zurd: pi^12 = 924 269.182
23:31 <Vanhayes> #g 1.90 usd in cad
23:31 <@armabot> Vanhayes: 1.90 U.S. dollars = 2.42972034 Canadian dollars
23:32 <Vanhayes> wow
23:32 <zurd> hey
23:32 <PinkTomato> 0.9 GBP in USD
23:32 <PinkTomato> #g 0.9 GBP in USD
23:32 <@armabot> PinkTomato: 0.9 British pounds = 1.24281 U.S. dollars
23:32 <Vanhayes> #g 2.42*3.78
23:32 <zurd> #g 0.9 GBP in USD
23:32 <@armabot> Vanhayes: 2.42 * 3.78 = 9.1476
23:32 <@armabot> zurd: 0.9 British pounds = 1.25172 U.S. dollars
23:32 <PinkTomato> it's $1.24 a litre here
23:32 <tramshed> thats rough
23:32 <Vanhayes> er
23:33 <tramshed> no wonder you guys have tiny cars
23:33 <Vanhayes> #g 2.42/3.78
23:33 <tramshed> I would too
23:33 <@armabot> Vanhayes: 2.42 / 3.78 = 0.64021164
23:33 <Vanhayes> we are hovering around 80 here
23:33 <zurd> #g pudding
23:33 <@armabot> zurd: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
23:33 <PinkTomato> 80 Candian cents a litre?
23:34 <zurd> #help question
23:34 <Vanhayes> ya
23:34 <@armabot> zurd: Error: There is no command "question".
23:34 <Vanhayes> went down a few months ago
23:34 <zurd> ]help
23:34 <ljrbot> zurd: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
23:34 <BabyBug> Why don't you walk instead of driving! :D
23:34 <PinkTomato> #g 0.80 CAN in GBP
23:34 <Vanhayes> used to be 1.50
23:34 <@armabot> PinkTomato: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
23:34 <tramshed> for a while here, gas about about 4.20 a gallon
23:34 <zurd> ]g 562/123
23:34 <ljrbot> zurd: Error: "g" is not a valid command.
23:34 <tramshed> then something or other happened
23:34 <PinkTomato> hehe, BabyBug I can't drive, :D
23:34 <tramshed> and it got cheap again
23:34 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, CAD not CAN :P
23:34 <zurd> #g 5^2/123
23:34 <Vanhayes> ya i was in the states when it was up there
23:34 <@armabot> zurd: (5^2) / 123 = 0.203252033
23:34 <tramshed> I think it was because everyone just stopped buying gas
23:34 <epsy> #armacommits
23:34 <@armabot> epsy: [armagetronad-net-vulnerable-blinking] r895 support syncing is-blinking over the network || [armagetronad-net-vulnerable-blinking] r894 move is-blinking logic to a function || [armagetronad-net-vulnerable-blinking] r893 allow server to determine when a cycle is or is not Vulnerab... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty-invulnerable] r892 CYCLE_KILL_INVULNERABLE function. When disabled, player is i... (5 more messages)
23:34 <PinkTomato> # 0.8 CAD in GBP
23:34 <epsy> wow..
23:34 <epsy> oh
23:35 <epsy> I get it >.>
23:35 <PinkTomato> epsy: ?
23:35 <epsy> it doesn't list commits in the future anyway
23:35 <zurd> #help /msg
23:35 <epsy> also, if anybody wants to try building arma with cmake
23:35 <@armabot> zurd: Error: There is no command "/msg".
23:35 <epsy> it should work OK
23:35 <BabyBug> epsy, the point of building with cmake would be?
23:36 <epsy> testing
23:36 <BabyBug> lp branch?
23:36 <Vanhayes> tramshed: i think it might have more to do with the economy crashing and a barrel of oil going fo 40 instead of 100+ a barrel now
23:37 <epsy> https://code.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/trunk-cmake
23:39 <PinkTomato> epsy: is there a readme there?
23:39 <epsy> cmake . then make
23:39 <PinkTomato> no bootstrap??
23:39 <epsy> I'll have to do that later :)
23:39 <epsy> "cmake ." is basically the bootstrap part
23:39 <epsy> and also the configure part
23:40 <PinkTomato> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop.
23:40 <PinkTomato> never used cmake :)
23:40 <PinkTomato> oh, don't worry
23:40 <epsy> you didn't run "cmake ."
23:41 <PinkTomato> I did, but: WARNING: This project requires version 2.6 of CMake.  You are running version 2.4.7.
23:41 <BabyBug> CMakeLists.txt:159:
23:41 <BabyBug> Parse error.  Function missing ending ")".  Instead found left paren with text "(".
23:41 <BabyBug> epsy ^^
23:41 <BabyBug> when i run cmake .
23:41 <epsy> ah, what distro are you using?
23:41 <PinkTomato> I get the same as BabyBug
23:41 <PinkTomato> ubuntu 8.04
23:42 <epsy> BabyBug, ubuntu & cmake versions?
23:42 <BabyBug> 9.04  - cmake: 2.6.2-1ubuntu1
23:42 <ivantis> guess what?
23:43 <ivantis> oh nvm i forgot this was the channel where everyone hates me
23:43 <epsy> BabyBug, if you remove all parenthesis except the englobbing ones at line 159, does it work?
23:45 <ct|kyle> #dict englobbing
23:45 <@armabot> ct|kyle: No definition for "englobbing" could be found.
23:45 <BabyBug> epsy, what? :|
23:45 <ivantis> #g englobbing
23:45 <@armabot> ivantis: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
23:45 <ivantis> #google englobbing
23:45 <ct|kyle> #google search define:englobbing
23:46 <@armabot> ivantis: Search took 0.46 seconds: InriaGforge: ProActive NBody: dépôt de sources: <http://gforge.inria.fr/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/src/org/objectweb/proactive/examples/nbody3D/common/PlanetDescription.java?rev=31&root=nbody&view=auto>; PlanetDescription.java ...: <http://proactive.inria.fr/3.90/ProActive_src_html/org/objectweb/proactive/examples/nbody/common/PlanetDescription.java.html>; (2 more messages)
23:46 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Search took 0.27 seconds: Uncertain Principles: The Framing Fracas: <http://scienceblogs.com/principles/2008/04/the_framing_fracas.php>
23:46 <epsy> BabyBug, if you change line 159 to
23:47 <BabyBug> epsy, ok that seems to be working :)
23:47 <epsy> and I probably let an "inexistant somewhere around line 88"
23:47 <epsy> more that quote
23:47 <ct|kyle> that was my guess for englobbing definition
23:47 <epsy> move *
23:47 <Vanhayes> #g (447-63)/2
23:47 <@armabot> Vanhayes: (447 - 63) / 2 = 192
23:48 <BabyBug> yeh, what's that inexistant error about?
23:48 <BabyBug> can i just ignore that?
23:48 <epsy> just something I put in for testing and which I apparently forgot to remove
23:48 <epsy> it's at line 88
23:48 <epsy> just remove it
23:48 <BabyBug> kk
23:49 <BabyBug> make has pretty colours! :D
23:49 <epsy> haha
23:51 <epsy> maybe you will need to type make armagetronad
23:51 <epsy> otherwise it will try to build both dedicated and client and it will fail
23:51 <BabyBug> Hrmm
23:52 <zurd> luke-jr: PING
23:52 <BabyBug> yes, yes it does
23:53 <BabyBug> gets all the way to 99% and...phail :(
23:53 <epsy> yeah, hehe
23:53 <BabyBug> make: *** No rule to make target `armagetronad'.  Stop.
23:53 <ivantis> wow
23:53 <ivantis> a bunch of armagetron related words here
23:54 <ivantis> http://www.lightspeedsystems.com/Archive/WebsiteDetails.aspx?domain=space-lab.us
23:54 <ivantis> look on unique words
23:54 <epsy> indeed, something's wrong
23:54 <epsy> it seems to be thinking client can't be built
23:54 <BabyBug> =(
23:54 <epsy> ah
23:54 <epsy> line 214
23:54 <BabyBug> of?
23:54 <epsy> if(BUILDCLIENT)
23:54 <epsy> that's the most annoying thing in cmake
23:55 <epsy> it's if(VAR) and not if(${VAR})
23:55 <BabyBug> CMake Error in CMakeLists.txt:
23:55 <BabyBug>   Cannot find source file "WIN32".  Tried extensions .c .C .c++ .cc .cpp .cxx
23:55 <BabyBug>   .m .M .mm .h .hh .h++ .hm .hpp .hxx .in .txx
23:56 <BabyBug> after the modification =)
23:56 <epsy> move it right after "armagetronad" at line 215
23:56 <epsy> yeah, that works
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Log from 2009-03-13:
--- Day changed Fri Mar 13 2009
00:00 <epsy> BabyBug, xorks?
00:00 <epsy> works *
00:00 <BabyBug> just finishing making now yup :)
00:00 <BabyBug> there's no erm, grid, morving background on the menus mind
00:01 <BabyBug> there's no grid in game either
00:01 <epsy> I've noticed that
00:01 <epsy> but thanks anyway
00:01 <BabyBug> No AI by default in Local Match either..
00:02 <epsy> maybe that was why gFloor & co were last
00:02 <epsy> will see that tomorrow
00:02 <epsy> night
00:02 <BabyBug> gdnight
00:02 -!- epsy [n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy] has quit ["Ragequit."]
00:03 <ivantis> ha ha ha
00:04 <ivantis> i had to submit goatse.fr for review
00:04 <ivantis> http://www.lightspeedsystems.com/Archive/WebsiteDetails.aspx?domain=goatse.fr#X
00:04 <ivantis> before it was marked as G
00:05 <ivantis> …
00:05 <ivantis> are those people fucking retarded?
00:05 <ivantis> http://www.lightspeedsystems.com/Archive/WebsiteDetails.aspx?domain=femse.com
00:05 <ivantis> it even has a thumbnail on there!
00:07 <zurd> luke-jr PING
00:07 <BabyBug> zurd, saying it more than once won't make him get back any quicker ;)
00:08 <zurd> but it save him from scrolling up to find it >.<
00:08 <zurd> did he say how long he would be out?
00:09 <BabyBug> newp, no one ever does on here....everyone's just plain rude and leaves without saying a word
00:10 <zurd> sarcasm, or a truth?
00:10 <BabyBug> truth
00:10 <zurd> thats not nice of them >.>
00:10 <BabyBug> every now and then someone will say night...but during the day...nothing
00:11 <BabyBug> z-man doesn't do it cause he's rude though. He does it cause he's lazy. But that also makes him the only nice person on here.
00:11  * Lizmatic loves BabyBug
00:12  * BabyBug loves Lizmatic 
00:12 <z-man> I don't say 'night because I don't want to spam
00:12  * ivantis thinks that everyone hates him
00:12 <Lizmatic> you're correct for once ivantis
00:12 <ivantis> everyone here at least
00:12 <BabyBug> z-man, you've already admitted you're lazy. Stop coming up with excuses now
00:13 <Lizmatic> who's this z-man anyway, does he play tron
00:13 <z-man> True, but that's not the reason I leave without saying something.
00:13 <ivantis> im like the opposite of one of those kids who becomes obsessed with some online social thing
00:13 <ivantis> people like me in the real world, but everyone hates me on irc
00:13 <BabyBug> Oh stop being so difficult! i payed you a compliment aswell! You could of just kept quiet :@
00:14 <BabyBug> Lizmatic, zman is zman =P
00:14 <Lizmatic> ivantis I bet that's a lie and just everyone hates you
00:14 <Lizmatic> with me its, I hate everyone in tron
00:14 <Lizmatic> and everyone IRL
00:14 <BabyBug> but loves me
00:15 <ivantis> im not the kind of guy who sits alone at lunch
00:15 <ivantis> i have a lot of friends, and not weird ones that no one else likes
00:15 <joda_bot> Lizmatic: hm, I guess you need a short history lesson :-)
00:15 <Lizmatic> do i O_O
00:15 <ivantis> "who is this z-man?"
00:15 <ivantis> God
00:16 <joda_bot> Lizmatic: z-man programmed the first version of armagetron :-) and he is (afaik) the only one who know the network and physics part of armagetron including all the underlying theory
00:16 <Lizmatic> really? gosh, I never knew
00:16 <Lizmatic> nice to meet you z-man
00:17 <BabyBug> Are you high again?
00:17 <Lizmatic> HOW DARE YOU
00:17 <Lizmatic> ID NEVER
00:17 <ivantis> gettin high?
00:17 <ivantis> oooh, you are bad
00:18 <BabyBug> how'd you figure that ivantis? it's perfectly legal =P
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00:18 <Lizmatic> I'm not bad, ask BB, I'm sweet
00:18 <nsh22> hero
00:19 <nsh22> herro*
00:19 <ivantis> bad things come from gettin high
00:19 <BabyBug> such as>
00:19 <BabyBug> ?
00:19 <nsh22> like youj? :P lol jk
00:19 <zurd> wb neal, no sign of luke
00:19 <nsh22> ivantis:
00:19 <nsh22> ...
00:19 <ivantis> no i never do that kind of stuff
00:19 <Lizmatic> http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/8/8a/Hot_chick_surprise.gif
00:19 <ivantis> nsh22: wat?
00:20 <nsh22> it was me adding you to my previous sentence
00:20 <joda_bot> Lizmatic: do I want to click on that link ?
00:20 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-cmake] r901 Set WIN32 flag on client builds || [trunk-cmake] r900 Have cmake complain when dependencies are not present....
00:20 <zurd> joda: no
00:20 <ivantis> joda_bot: prepare to have your mind blown
00:20 <nsh22> BabyBug: did you see the new command?
00:20 <Lizmatic> its a hot chick with a suprise
00:20 <nsh22> a chick with a dick?
00:21 <zurd> just sick and wrong,,,
00:21 <ivantis> yeah Lizmatic is high
00:21 <Lizmatic> dont be racists towards trannies
00:21 <Lizmatic> be racist towards spanish ppl
00:21 <Lizmatic> woowoo
00:21 <nsh22> Lizmatic: are you actually high?
00:22 <joda_bot> Lizmatic: are you aware that everything you say in here is stored and recorded on the net ?
00:22 <Lizmatic> eys
00:22 <Lizmatic> yes
00:22 <Lizmatic> amd
00:22 <Lizmatic> and
00:22  * joda_bot calls parents for sanity checks :-)
00:22 <Lizmatic> $_$
00:22 <nsh22> ]hug everyone
00:22 <ljrbot> nsh22 hugs everyone because they like them
00:23 <nsh22> :P
00:23 <nsh22> jk, i dont do that, it would be quite gay
00:23 <PinkTomato> or friendly
00:23 <zurd> OMFG thats so wrong... the dude looks so much like a chick
00:23 <Lizmatic> I KNOW
00:24 <ivantis> zurd: what did you want luke-jr for?
00:24 <zurd> neal and i need to talk business with him
00:25 <nsh22> OMG, that is mildly funny., he/she needs ductape :P
00:25 <zurd> lol
00:25 <nsh22> but still wrong nonetheless
00:25 <zurd> yes
00:25 <Lizmatic> RACISESTS
00:26 <nsh22> i never said the fact of being a tranny was wrong
00:26 <Lizmatic> did so
00:26 <Lizmatic> im sometimes a tranny but 2day im a helicoptergirl
00:26 <nsh22> the fact that (s)he tucked his/her dick back inside his/herself is
00:26 <zurd> and how us that racistest...you need a dictionary...
00:26 <nsh22> what exactly are you high on, i want some :P
00:27 <Lizmatic> huhu
00:27 <nsh22> ???
00:27  * Lizmatic flys her helikoptur!
00:27 <PinkTomato> run away!
00:27 <joda_bot>  /cmd silence spammers :D
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00:30 <Lizmatic> babybug
00:30 <Lizmatic> marry me!!
00:30 <BabyBug> i'm slowly getting nervous about you blurting something out...
00:31 <Lizmatic> teeeeehe
00:31 <Lizmatic> we have lots of sekrets
00:31 <Lizmatic> i should blurt stuf out
00:31 <BabyBug> ...
00:32 -!- smoothice [n=smoothic@97-118-165-122.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #armagetron
00:33 <nsh22> SMOOTH!!!!!!!!!!
00:33 <smoothice> NSH22!!!!!!!!!!!
00:33 <nsh22> MSN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
00:34 <ivantis> calm down!!!!!!!!!
00:34 <smoothice> ok!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
00:34 <Lizmatic> you guis homos`/?\
00:34 <Lizmatic> gonna cybe rlikeme n babybug???
00:34 <BabyBug> :| Shut up woman ><
00:35 <joda_bot> can someone for their own safety kick and ban Lizmatic. (S)he can not be hold responsible for her actions ...
00:35 <Lizmatic> arnet you a bot
00:36 <nsh22> BabyBug: plz do the above requested action lol
00:36 <Lizmatic> what!!!!
00:36 <Lizmatic> bb lhoves me :((
00:36 <ivantis> no this is entertaining
00:36 <BabyBug> #kick Lizmatic love makes us do terrible things!
00:36 <Lizmatic> HA
00:36 <Lizmatic> NUB
00:36 <BabyBug> ><
00:36 <nsh22> if she loved you, she would protect you from harming yourself
00:36 -!- Lizmatic [n=Lizmatic@78-27-12-206.dsl.alice.nl] has left #armagetron [requested by armabot: "love makes us do terrible things!"]
00:36 <BabyBug> take ya time armabot
00:36 -!- Lizmatic [n=Lizmatic@78-27-12-206.dsl.alice.nl] has joined #armagetron
00:37 <Lizmatic> but like
00:37 <Lizmatic> isnt jodhabot a bot
00:37 <BabyBug> No
00:37 <Lizmatic> how cn he typ lik that
00:37 -!- sinewav [n=sinewav@adsl-76-197-246-93.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #armagetron
00:37 <joda_bot> yeah, but I'm caring and friendly bot, and right now I think it's best for you to either chat privatly in your own channel. Get some rest or do something offline were you don't leave clues to your activies for future employers ...
00:37 <joda_bot> I'm *a* caring
00:38 <joda_bot> #ban
00:38 <joda_bot> #help ban
00:38 <@armabot> joda_bot: Error: There is no command "ban".
00:38 <nsh22> smoothice: your version of msn doesnt support nidges....
00:38 <PinkTomato> nsh22: why are you nudging?
00:38 <PinkTomato> what's wrong with /msg
00:38 <Lizmatic> futur epmoyees?
00:38 <nsh22> to get hs attention
00:38 <Lizmatic> are you american>
00:38 <Lizmatic> amerikans ar usually parranoid
00:39 <PinkTomato> joda_bot: is not american I think
00:39 <Lizmatic> haha a talking tomato
00:39 <PinkTomato> bot was european I Think
00:39 <nsh22> haha a talking liz :P
00:39 <joda_bot> #help kick
00:39 <nsh22> #poll
00:39 <nsh22> #help poll
00:40 <@armabot> joda_bot: (kick [<channel>] <nick> [<reason>]) -- Kicks <nick> from <channel> for <reason>. If <reason> isn't given, uses the nick of the person making the command as the reason. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
00:40 <@armabot> nsh22: Error: There is no command "poll".
00:40 <BabyBug> Is she really doing anything ban worthy right this moment?
00:40 <joda_bot> BabyBug: no, that's not the point ...
00:40 <nsh22> being under the influence?
00:41 <joda_bot> drugs are fine by me, but she is just hurting herself in the end, and is not really responsible or brought to reason by talking
00:41 <BabyBug> well she's shut up now anyway
00:41 <ivantis> no drugs are baad
00:42 <joda_bot> ivantis: stop playing armagetron then
00:42 <ivantis> very very bad
00:42 <Lizmatic> hurting meself?
00:42 <Lizmatic> YOUR RIGHT
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00:42 <Lizmatic> i elfell from my chair almost
00:42 <joda_bot> ivantis: don't eat sugared drings
00:42 <ivantis> i already stopped playing a while ago
00:42 <nsh22> drugs are bad, they couldve had a role in ivantis' birth :P
00:42 <joda_bot> eh drink :D
00:42 <ivantis> couldve
00:42 <ct|kyle> sinewave :(
00:42 <ivantis> but didnt
00:42 <nsh22> how do you know
00:42 <joda_bot> ct|kyle: ?
00:43 <ivantis> because im normal
00:43 <ivantis> not weird
00:43 <ivantis> like most of the people here
00:43 <ct|kyle> joda_bot: ?
00:43 <joda_bot> ct|kyle: ?
00:43 <sinewave> I left ct, thus :(
00:43 <ct|kyle> joda_bot: ?
00:43 <Lizmatic> ct is ghey
00:43 <joda_bot> sinewav: ?
00:43 <nsh22> you left ct? why?
00:43 <Lizmatic> cock ticklers
00:44 <ct|kyle> sinewave: but you still play fortress, don't you?
00:44 <BabyBug> #kban Lizmatic I'm so sorry ='(
00:44 -!- mode/#armagetron [+b *!n=Lizmatic@78-27-12-206.dsl.alice.nl] by armabot
00:44 -!- Lizmatic [n=Lizmatic@78-27-12-206.dsl.alice.nl] has left #armagetron [requested by armabot: "I'm so sorry ='("]
00:44 <BabyBug> happy joda_bot? :P
00:44 -!- Stewah [n=Stewah@cpe-76-88-116-195.san.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
00:44 <sinewave> yeah, but I like my team. Nothing against ct though.
00:44 <ivantis> everyone seen the latest?
00:44 <ivantis> http://xkcd.com/
00:44 <ivantis> ha thats a good one
00:45 <ivantis> Haiku-compliant
00:45 <joda_bot> I like the last one :-P
00:46 -!- sinewav [n=sinewav@adsl-76-197-246-93.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)]
00:46 <smoothice> hi ¥@LL!
00:46 <ct|kyle> oi smoothice
00:47 <smoothice> oi ct|kyle
00:47 <smoothice> oi BabyBug
00:47 <smoothice> oi PinkTomato
00:47 <smoothice> oi teabot
00:47 <smoothice> oi armabot
00:47 <sinewave> lol
00:47 <smoothice> lol
00:47 <BabyBug> don't highlight me for no freaking reason! :@
00:47 <joda_bot> ivantis: I think everybody has his share of "wierdness", it is just a different kind or type of "wierd" ...
00:47 <ct|kyle> hey BabyBug
00:47 <smoothice> :D
00:47 <smoothice> owned!
00:47 <smoothice> ct|kyle: :P
00:48 <ivantis> my latest employer used "lol" in Yahoo IM
00:48 <ivantis> doesnt that seem a bit odd?
00:48 <smoothice> :O
00:48 <smoothice> lol!
00:48 <nsh22> cool, noone cares
00:48 <sinewave> no
00:48 <ivantis> a grown man, saying lol
00:48 <smoothice> lol
00:48 <smoothice> Version: 0.2.8-sty+ct_alpha20090222 unix dedicated
00:48 <nsh22> lue says lol, so who cares
00:48 <sinewave> `I'm grown. watch this ---> LOL!
00:48 <smoothice> sinewave: /nick sinewav
00:49 <sinewave> fine
00:49 <smoothice> the e makes it look cruddy
00:49 <smoothice> lol
00:49 -!- sinewave is now known as sinewav
00:49 <smoothice> thank you
00:49 <smoothice> lol
00:49 <smoothice> @echo hi BabyBug
00:49 <teabot> hi BabyBug
00:50 <joda_bot> BabyBug: I hope you can explain Lizmatic why she got kicked if she is back to normal
00:50 <joda_bot> #gn
00:50 <joda_bot> gn8
00:50 <nsh22> joda_bot: thats what logs are for :P
00:50 <joda_bot> :-)
00:50 <BabyBug> joda_bot, i'm having to put up with her on msn atm =P
00:50 <BabyBug> but she loves me, she'll forgive me =P
00:50 <nsh22> lawl
00:51 <joda_bot> BabyBug: just entertain her :-), perhaps give her a link to site with funny pictures that might distract her :-)
00:51 <nsh22> BabyBug: want me to make you and liz a ] command :P i have one in mind
00:51 <joda_bot> #help kban
00:52 <nsh22> actually, nvm... the one i was thinking about would get me smote by luke-jr
00:52 <BabyBug> nsh22, no
00:52 <@armabot> joda_bot: (kban [<channel>] [--{exact,nick,user,host}] <nick> [<seconds>] [<reason>]) -- If you have the #channel,op capability, this will kickban <nick> for as many seconds as you specify, or else (if you specify 0 seconds or don't specify a number of seconds) it will ban the person indefinitely. --exact bans only the exact hostmask; --nick bans just the nick; --user bans just the user, and (1 more message)
00:52 <BabyBug> joda_bot, i'll just send her some more nudey pics...should calm her down 8-)
00:52 <BabyBug> #op
00:52 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o BabyBug] by armabot
00:52 <joda_bot> :-)
00:52 -!- mode/#armagetron [-b *!n=Lizmatic@78-27-12-206.dsl.alice.nl] by BabyBug
00:52 <ct|kyle> sinewav: now I figured out why, you were still upset about me still pwning you on your racing maps when you got in CT :P,  No I understand your disission.
00:52 <@BabyBug> #deop
00:52 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o BabyBug] by armabot
00:53 <sinewav> Yes! I will never, ever forgive! >:|
00:53 <joda_bot> nice play BabyBug ... strange thing that you're called Lizmatic , too :-P
00:53 <BabyBug> joda_bot? I'm called Lizmatic??!! What?!
00:53 <zurd> luke-jr ping
00:53 <joda_bot> Modus (-b *!n=Lizmatic@78-27-12-206.dsl.alice.nl ) von BabyBug
00:53 <BabyBug> I removed her ban...
00:53 <joda_bot> ah it's unban ...
00:53 <joda_bot> ah ok
00:54 <BabyBug> lol
00:54 <joda_bot> got me confused there
00:54 <joda_bot> time for bed I guess ...
00:54 <joda_bot> not thinking clearly
00:54 <nsh22> noight
00:54 <BabyBug> hehe, night
00:55 <zurd> #op
00:55 <@armabot> zurd: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
00:55 <zurd> >.<
00:55 <zurd> #whoami
00:55 <@armabot> zurd: I don't recognize you.
00:55 <nsh22> #whoami
00:55 <@armabot> nsh22: nsh22
00:55 <nsh22> :P
00:55 <smoothice> #whoami
00:55 <@armabot> smoothice: I don't recognize you.
00:55 <zurd> HA
00:55 <nsh22> you need to register with armabot
00:56 <zurd> how?
00:56 <nsh22> #help register
00:56 <zurd> #register Zurd
00:56 <@armabot> nsh22: (register <name> <password>) -- Registers <name> with the given password <password> and the current hostmask of the person registering. You shouldn't register twice; if you're not recognized as a user but you've already registered, use the hostmask add command to add another hostmask to your already-registered user, or use the identify command to identify just for a session. This command (1 more message)
00:56 <@armabot> zurd: Error: That operation cannot be done in a channel.
00:56 -!- joda_bot [n=anonymou@dslb-084-061-072-003.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Leaving."]
00:56 <nsh22> smoothice: FAIL!
00:57 <smoothice> nsh22: no, WIN!
00:57 <nsh22> #more
00:57 <@armabot> nsh22: (and all other commands that include a password) must be sent to the bot privately, not in a channel.
00:58 -!- luke-jr [n=luke-jr@2002:46bb:1a76:0:20e:a6ff:fec4:4e5d] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
00:58 <zurd> :o
00:58 <nsh22> FFS!
00:59 <nsh22> ok, hmwrk time!
00:59 <nsh22> #weather innisfil
00:59 <@armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Innisfil, Innisfil, Ontario is 16.7°F (7:59 PM EDT on March 12, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 3.2°F. Windchill: 8.6°F. Pressure: 30.53 in 1033.7 hPa (Rising).
01:00 <nsh22> for fuck sake
01:00 <nsh22> its fucking cold again :(
01:01 <zurd> #weather palm springs
01:01 <@armabot> zurd: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
01:01 <zurd> DAMNIT!
01:02 <nsh22> #weather palm
01:02 <@armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Reserve at Bally Spring, BARTO, Pennsylvania is 37.4°F (8:01 PM EDT on March 12, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 12.2°F. Windchill: 37.4°F. Pressure: 30.47 in 1031.7 hPa (Falling).
01:02 <nsh22> enter your zip instaid
01:02 <Vanhayes> #weather e5n 5c5
01:02 <zurd> #weather 92240
01:03 <@armabot> Vanhayes: The current temperature in Hampton High School, Hampton, New Brunswick is 20.5°F (9:02 PM ADT on March 12, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 255%. Windchill: 14.0°F. Pressure: 30.43 in 1030.4 hPa (Rising).
01:03 <@armabot> zurd: The current temperature in Palm Springs, California is 73.4°F (4:53 PM PDT on March 12, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 27%. Dew Point: 37.4°F. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011 hPa (Falling).
01:03 <Vanhayes> #finc 20.5
01:03 <@armabot> Vanhayes: -6.38888888889
01:03 <nsh22> im colder
01:03 <Vanhayes> #finc 14
01:03 <@armabot> Vanhayes: -10.0
01:03 <zurd> #inc -14
01:03 <Vanhayes> ya it was nice here today
01:04 <Vanhayes> #weather edmonton
01:04 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
01:04 <nsh22> it wasnt too bad here, -4 or sumthin
01:04 <Vanhayes> #weather t5p 2r2
01:04 <@armabot> Vanhayes: The current temperature in Sunridge Ski Area, Edmonton, Alberta is 41.5°F (6:02 PM MDT on March 12, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 19.4°F. Windchill: 39.2°F. Pressure: 30.03 in 1016.8 hPa (Falling).
01:04 <Vanhayes> wow really warm there
01:04 <nsh22> #weather h0h 0h0
01:04 <@armabot> nsh22: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
01:04 <nsh22> #weather heaven
01:05 <@armabot> nsh22: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
01:09 <zurd> where is luke!
01:09 <nsh22> fucking his wife?
01:09 <nsh22> lol
01:09 <nsh22> it always seems that where he is
01:09 <nsh22> <luke-jr> brb, sex
01:09 <zurd> >.<
01:09 <nsh22> he apparentlty wants 25 kids...
01:10  * nsh22 is listening to "what its like"
01:11  * nsh22 needs some laughs
01:11 <nsh22> #q
01:11 <ct|kyle> nsh22: no he is getting paid by the fat and ugly to have sex with them
01:11 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #86: "<luke-jr> I'm still grasping at corks to plug the holes" (added by GodTodd at 07:12 AM, January 07, 2009)
01:11 <nsh22> ct|kyle: hmmm... its a possibility
01:11 <nsh22> :P
01:11 <nsh22> #q
01:11 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #71: "<Monkey_arma> to be fair the mess the wiki is in, i cant tell spam from actual content" (added by noob7 at 10:50 PM, April 14, 2008)
01:11 <nsh22> #q
01:11 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #32: "i2020> sure you can... who told you that, little lukie wookie" (added by spidey at 07:34 PM, November 05, 2006)
01:11 <nsh22> #q
01:11 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #76: "<Lucifer> vista doesn't have the kind of boobs that KDE has" (added by ivantis at 05:54 AM, July 31, 2008)
01:11 <nsh22> :P
01:11 <ct|kyle> #quote get #crazy-tronners 2
01:11 <zurd> #q
01:12 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Quote #2: "(11:44:13) eddiefantastic: I'd rather stick my cock in a jar of honey, roll it in oats then feed it to a goat" (added by ct|kyle at 05:49 PM, December 12, 2007)
01:12 <@armabot> zurd: Quote #69: "gentoo ebuild is as broken as luke-jr himself :D ~xfroggy" (added by ct|kyle at 06:23 PM, January 26, 2008)
01:12 <nsh22> ct|kyle: LMAO
01:12 <nsh22> #q
01:12 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #23: "<spidey> you wanna fuck Luke-Jr ?" (added by Vanhayes at 01:40 AM, October 15, 2006)
01:12 <nsh22> o0
01:12 <nsh22> #q
01:12 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #49: "<ToddBot> #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo" (added by epsy at 03:52 PM, July 09, 2007)
01:12 <zurd> o.o
01:12 <nsh22> #q
01:12 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #45: "better an idiot that can admit it than a luke-jr....er, idiot that can't --GodTodd" (added by Lucifer_arma at 03:35 AM, March 12, 2007)
01:12 <nsh22> #q
01:12 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #30: "Fonkay: Are you afraid of sex? -armabot" (added by spidey at 01:02 AM, November 02, 2006)
01:12 <nsh22> #q
01:12 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #17: "And I hate dying nearly as much as I hate Vanhayes. --featherfcuk" (added by Lucifer_arma at 02:02 AM, June 14, 2006)
01:12 <nsh22> LMAO
01:12 <Vanhayes> ack
01:13 <nsh22> #q
01:13 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #36: "<Durka> HEY im a n00b" (added by spidey at 08:45 PM, December 07, 2006)
01:13 <zurd> hahaha
01:13 <nsh22> #q
01:13 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #90: "WoW is the game of satanists! -- BabyBug" (added by Pathetique at 03:24 PM, March 04, 2009)
01:13 <nsh22> that is tru
01:13 <Vanhayes> wonder whatever happened to spidey
01:13 <nsh22> #q
01:13 <zurd> #quote
01:13 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #39: "spidey sucks cow dick?" (added by Vanhayes at 01:47 AM, December 13, 2006)
01:13 <@armabot> zurd: For animals, the entire universe has been neatly divided into things to (a) mate with, (b) eat, (c) run away from, and (d) rocks. -- (Terry Pratchett, Equal Rites)
01:13 <Vanhayes> #quote get 38
01:13 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #38: "<GodTodd> hayes jerks off turkeys?" (added by spidey at 01:44 AM, December 13, 2006)
01:13 <nsh22> zurd: just use #q, #quote is gay
01:13 <nsh22> #q
01:13 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #14: "On a full moon, Christopher Walken transform in a wereworm. Not as dangerous as a werewolf, but twice as cunning. - philippeqc" (added by n54 at 07:58 PM, April 25, 2006)
01:14 <zurd> #q
01:14 <@armabot> zurd: Quote #77: "scool is easy it just makes me board --ct|kyle" (added by Lucifer_arma at 06:04 AM, July 31, 2008)
01:14 <nsh22> #q
01:14 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #31: "<Fonkay> #eliza you are stupid <armabot> Fonkay: Why do you say i are stupid?" (added by Vanhayes at 01:05 AM, November 02, 2006)
01:14 <zurd> lol
01:14 <zurd> #q
01:14 <nsh22> #q
01:14 <@armabot> zurd: Quote #62: "<tronner> armabot: *click* <armabot> tronner: You've given me 5 invalid commands within the last minute; I'm now ignoring you for 10 minutes." (added by epsy at 11:34 PM, November 16, 2007)
01:14 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #28: "i can't speel either --Fonkay" (added by Lucifer_arma at 07:38 AM, October 28, 2006)
01:14 <Vanhayes> bah keeps beeping me
01:14 <nsh22> #q
01:14 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #16: "Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it. - Brian Kernighan" (added by a user that is no longer registered at 11:21 PM, May 03, 2006)
01:14 <nsh22> LOL
01:15 <zurd> xD
01:15 <nsh22> #q
01:15 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #22: "i got a pen from a microsoft rep about 2 months ago.. already stopped working properly -- Plazma" (added by Lucifer_arma at 03:46 AM, September 19, 2006)
01:15 <nsh22> #q
01:15 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #86: "<luke-jr> I'm still grasping at corks to plug the holes" (added by GodTodd at 07:12 AM, January 07, 2009)
01:15 <nsh22> #q
01:15 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #18: "so you can't send a note to spidey or other noobs. -wrtlprnft" (added by Vanhayes at 05:23 AM, June 21, 2006)
01:15 <nsh22> #q
01:15 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #12: "'ebuild blah portage rocks emerge hotplug coldplig - armabot mashuffle'" (added by n54 at 05:44 PM, March 29, 2006)
01:15 <zurd> #q get 99
01:15 <@armabot> zurd: Quote #90: "WoW is the game of satanists! -- BabyBug" (added by Pathetique at 03:24 PM, March 04, 2009)
01:15 <Vanhayes> no 99
01:15 <zurd> >.<
01:15 <zurd> i got 90
01:15 <nsh22> #q get 89
01:15 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #3: "um, try spelling it wirght :) -- Lucifer" (added by Lucifer_arma at 06:22 AM, March 27, 2006)
01:15 <Vanhayes> and you have to say Quote get not q get
01:15 <zurd> where do you the list?
01:16 <nsh22> #q get 89
01:16 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #55: "<MrBougo> Lucifer_arma: quote me!" (added by epsy at 01:30 PM, August 12, 2007)
01:16 <nsh22> #q get 89
01:16 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #57: "* epsy runs away from MrBougo | <epsy> i'm gonna take a shower brb | * MrBougo follows epsy *" (added by MrBougo at 01:38 PM, August 12, 2007)
01:16 <Vanhayes> Quote get not q get
01:16 <nsh22> #quote get 89
01:16 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #89: "<ct|kyle>: smoothice: you can with zones v3" (added by epsy at 12:19 AM, February 15, 2009)
01:16 <nsh22> #quote get 88
01:16 <zurd> ]q
01:16 <ljrbot> zurd: Error: "q" is not a valid command.
01:16 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #88: "Flex: you start your grind at the zone, by the time you get to the split it's weak, not to mention the guy is burning the same rubber.." (added by madmax at 01:15 AM, January 31, 2009)
01:16 <nsh22> LMAO
01:16 <Vanhayes> #Quote get 91
01:16 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Error: There is no Quote with id #91 in my database for #armagetron.
01:17 <nsh22> #quote get 87
01:17 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #87: "<BabyBug> the thought of rabbit teeth near my clit is in no way sexy" (added by Lucifer_arma at 04:58 AM, January 18, 2009)
01:17 <Vanhayes> only 90
01:17 <nsh22> lmao babybug
01:17 <sinewav> O_0
01:17 <Vanhayes> kinky
01:17 <nsh22> no, she doesnt thoink its sexy
01:17 <nsh22> #quote get 86
01:17 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #86: "<luke-jr> I'm still grasping at corks to plug the holes" (added by GodTodd at 07:12 AM, January 07, 2009)
01:17 <nsh22> #quote get 85
01:17 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #85: "i spelled sumthing wrong -nsh22" (added by Lucifer_arma at 01:06 AM, January 07, 2009)
01:17 <nsh22> MOI!
01:18 <nsh22> #quote get 84
01:18 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #84: "<cusco> #quote search *cusco*  <armabot> cusco: No matching quotes were found." (added by Lucifer_arma at 11:54 PM, December 19, 2008)
01:18 <Vanhayes> theres one in there where luke jr says pedophile is good
01:18 <nsh22> wewt i got the first quote of 2009
01:18 <nsh22> yeah ive seen it, many times
01:18 <Vanhayes> funny one
01:18 <nsh22> #quote get 83
01:18 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #83: "<Lizmatic> wtfzomg ady-lucifer and lucifer aren't the same guys?! !!!?!"" (added by Lucifer_arma at 10:57 PM, December 16, 2008)
01:18 <smoothice> #quote add Vanhayes: theres one in there where luke jr says pedophile is good
01:18 <@armabot> smoothice: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
01:18 <nsh22> i remember that
01:18 <nsh22> FAIL SMOOTH!
01:19 <nsh22> #quote get 82
01:19 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #82: "<TaZ> Ady-Lucifer: Nah, you're nicer than lucifer though" (added by K-Yo at 04:46 PM, December 13, 2008)
01:19 <nsh22> #quote get 81
01:19 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #81: "GodTodd: that lightning is just God aiming for luke-jr and missing" (added by ct|kyle at 07:50 AM, August 05, 2008)
01:19 <nsh22> #quote get 80
01:19 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #80: "<luke-jr> Intel GPU pwns <luke-jr> CPU sucks" (added by epsy at 11:35 PM, August 04, 2008)
01:19 <zurd> SPAM!
01:19 <zurd> #help SPAM
01:19 <nsh22> MAPS!
01:19 <@armabot> zurd: (spam <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "$randomNick $*".
01:19 <PinkTomato> please just use quote search :)
01:19 <nsh22> ?
01:19 <nsh22> #spam
01:19 <zurd> #spam
01:19 <PinkTomato> #quote search nsh22
01:19 <@armabot> PinkTomato: 1 found: #85: "i spelled sumthing wrong -nsh22"
01:20 <nsh22> lol im just ;looking ythrough them all
01:20 <smoothice> #quote search smoothice
01:20 <nsh22> and killing armabot ath the same ti8me
01:20 <@armabot> smoothice: 1 found: #89: "<ct|kyle>: smoothice: you can with zones v3"
01:20 <nsh22> #quote search luke-jr
01:20 <@armabot> nsh22: 16 found: #20: "ok luci, you'd know better on this one -- luke-jr", #21: "<Luke-Jr_work__> btw, pedophile is good", #23: "<spidey> you wanna fuck Luke-Jr ?", #26: "<Lucifer_arma> I want fundamentalism just so I...", #45: "better an idiot that can admit it than a luke-...", #59: "-Kick- You have been kicked from channel...", #60: "<luke-jr> fanatics are good", #63: "GodTodd: definition of (2 more messages)
01:20 <PinkTomato> lulz
01:20 <nsh22> #mor
01:20 <nsh22> #more
01:20 <@armabot> nsh22: great : agrees with...", #64: "[14:14] <luke-jr> and needless to say, don't...", #68: "[12:54] <luke-jr> …. ok, you win", #69: "gentoo ebuild is as broken as luke-jr himself...", #70: "(20:09:38) luke-jr: StickyNoob: what does that...", #73: "<Lucifer> if you don't want to nitpick, don't...", #80: "<luke-jr> Intel GPU pwns <luke-jr> CPU sucks", #81: "GodTodd: that lightning is just God (1 more message)
01:20 <Vanhayes> #quote get hayes
01:21 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Error: 'hayes' is not a valid id.
01:21 <nsh22> #more
01:21 <@armabot> nsh22: aiming for...", and #86: "<luke-jr> I'm still grasping at corks to plug..."
01:21 <Vanhayes> #quote search hayes
01:21 <@armabot> Vanhayes: 2 found: #17: "And I hate dying nearly as much as I hate..." and #38: "<GodTodd> hayes jerks off turkeys?"
01:21 <Vanhayes> #quote search vanhayes
01:21 <@armabot> Vanhayes: 1 found: #17: "And I hate dying nearly as much as I hate..."
01:22 <Vanhayes> #whoami
01:22 <nsh22> #quote search fail
01:22 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Vanhayes
01:22 <@armabot> nsh22: No matching quotes were found.
01:22 <nsh22> #quote search armabot
01:22 <@armabot> nsh22: 11 found: #12: "'ebuild blah portage rocks emerge hotplug...", #30: "Fonkay: Are you afraid of sex? -armabot", #31: "<Fonkay> #eliza you are stupid <armabot>...", #4: "left vertical bar is brakes, right one is an...", #5: "first the spoon, then the ladle, then the bowl,...", #62: "<tronner> armabot: *click* <armabot> tronner:...", #65: "<Ady666> armabot, 1+2? [...] <Ady666> its thinking", (1 more message)
01:22 <zurd> WTF where is luke-jr
01:22 <nsh22> I DONT KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
01:22 <nsh22> LOL
01:23 <nsh22> im very bored
01:23 <Vanhayes> luke-jr has quit (Remote closed the connection)
01:23 <nsh22> we know...
01:23 <zurd> i know, but when does he want to come back...
01:23 <nsh22> ]alias add jimp "echo just jizzed in his pants"
01:23 <ljrbot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
01:23 <nsh22> ]jimp
01:23 <ljrbot> just jizzed in his pants
01:23 <Vanhayes> he is spying on you with ljrbot
01:23 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-cmake] r903 Fixed some little glitches.... || [trunk-cmake] r902 Remove dependency to "inexistent" and rewrite an if() line f...
01:23 <nsh22> ]alias add jimp "echo $1 just jizzed in his pants"
01:23 <ljrbot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
01:23 <nsh22> ]jimp
01:24 <ljrbot> nsh22: (jimp <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "echo $1 just jizzed in his pants".
01:24 <nsh22> ]alias add jimp "echo $who just jizzed in his pants"
01:24 <ljrbot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
01:24 <nsh22> ]jimp
01:24 <ljrbot> nsh22 just jizzed in his pants
01:24 <nsh22> :P
01:24 <nsh22> @echo ]jimp
01:24 <teabot> nsh22: Error: Spurious "]".  You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands.
01:24 <zurd> [jimp ljrbot
01:24 <Vanhayes> #help roulette
01:24 <@armabot> Vanhayes: (roulette [spin]) -- Fires the revolver. If the bullet was in the chamber, you're dead. Tell me to spin the chambers and I will.
01:24 <nsh22> #echo ]jimp
01:24 <@armabot> nsh22: Error: Spurious "]".  You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands.
01:24 -!- Concord [n=Concord@pool-72-93-80-152.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron
01:24 <Vanhayes> #roulette
01:24 <@armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
01:24 <nsh22> ]jimp concord
01:24 <ljrbot> nsh22 just jizzed in his pants
01:24 <Vanhayes> #roulette
01:24 <nsh22> ...
01:24 <@armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
01:24 <zurd> ]jimp ljrbot
01:24 <ljrbot> zurd just jizzed in his pants
01:25 <Vanhayes> #roulette
01:25 <@armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
01:25 <zurd> >.<
01:25 <smoothice> #roulette spin
01:25 <@armabot> *SPIN* Are you feeling lucky?
01:25 <smoothice> #roulette
01:25 <@armabot> smoothice: *click*
01:25 <Vanhayes> #roulette
01:25 <@armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
01:25 <Vanhayes> next
01:25 <nsh22> #eightball is zurd dumb?
01:25 <@armabot> nsh22: I doubt it very much.
01:25 <Vanhayes> is armabot opped?
01:25 <nsh22> ....
01:25 <zurd> #armagetron.tourneys
01:25 <Vanhayes> #roulette
01:25 -!- Vanhayes [i=Vanhayes@CPE001111c2dce8-CM001a66837916.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #armagetron [requested by armabot: "BANG!"]
01:26  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
01:26 <smoothice> #eightball is nsh22 dumb?
01:26 -!- Vanhayes [i=Vanhayes@CPE001111c2dce8-CM001a66837916.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #armagetron
01:26 <@armabot> smoothice: _I_ don't know.
01:26 <Vanhayes> i guess she is
01:26 <smoothice> #eightball is nsh22 dumb?
01:26 <@armabot> smoothice: The answer is def-- oooh! shiny thing!
01:26 <smoothice> l...
01:26 <nsh22> #eightball is smooth dumb?
01:26 <smoothice> danitl ol
01:26 <@armabot> nsh22: Naturally.
01:26 <smoothice> ...
01:26 <nsh22> HA!
01:26 <nsh22> #eightball is smooticeh dumb?
01:26 <Vanhayes> try roulette
01:26 <@armabot> nsh22: One would be wise to think so.
01:26 <nsh22> #eightball is smooticeh dumb?
01:26 <@armabot> nsh22: Of course.
01:26 <nsh22> hahhahahahahah
01:26 <nsh22> #eightball is smooticeh dumb?
01:26 <@armabot> nsh22: One would be wise to think so.
01:26 <zurd> #eightball do my co-leaders fail?
01:26 <@armabot> zurd: I doubt it very much.
01:26 <nsh22> #eightball is smootice dumb?
01:26 <@armabot> nsh22: You know the answer better than I.
01:27 <zurd> DAMNIT!
01:27 <nsh22> #eightball is smootice dumb?
01:27 <@armabot> nsh22: No clue.
01:27 <nsh22> #eightball is smootice dumb?
01:27 <@armabot> nsh22: The answer is def-- oooh! shiny thing!
01:27 <zurd> DAMNIT!
01:27 <zurd> #eightball do my co-leaders fail?
01:27 <@armabot> zurd: I doubt it very much.
01:27 <nsh22> #eightball is neal dumb?
01:27 <zurd> #eightball do my co-leaders fail?
01:27 <@armabot> nsh22: No chance.
01:27 <@armabot> zurd: The outlook is poor.
01:27 <zurd> #eightball do my co-leaders fail?
01:27 <@armabot> zurd: You're kidding, right?
01:27 <zurd> #eightball do my co-leaders fail?
01:27 <@armabot> zurd: Unlikely.
01:27 <zurd> #eightball do my co-leaders fail?
01:27 <@armabot> zurd: Unlikely.
01:27 <Vanhayes> zurd accept it they dont fail
01:27 <zurd> >.<
01:27 <nsh22> #eightball is xurds coleader paying for ha;l  vps server :P?
01:27 <@armabot> nsh22: One would be wise to think so.
01:27 <nsh22> zurd: :P armabot like me
01:28 <Vanhayes> #roulette
01:28 <@armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
01:28 <nsh22> #r
01:28 <nsh22> ]r
01:28 <ljrbot> nsh22: *click*
01:28 <nsh22> ]r
01:28 <zurd> #eightball will neal pay for the rest of the VPS?
01:28 <ljrbot> nsh22: *click*
01:28 <@armabot> zurd: No clue.
01:28 <zurd> >.<
01:28 <Vanhayes> someone play rouleete with me and armabot
01:28 <zurd> #eightball will neal pay for the rest of the VPS?
01:28 <@armabot> zurd: Come again?
01:28 <zurd> #eightball will neal pay for the rest of the VPS?
01:28 <@armabot> zurd: You know the answer better than I.
01:28 <nsh22> :P
01:28 <Vanhayes> #roulette
01:28 <zurd> this isnt fair
01:28 <@armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
01:28 <zurd> #roulette
01:28 <nsh22> #eightball will neal kick zurd if he doesnt pay his amount?
01:28 <@armabot> zurd: *click*
01:28 <@armabot> nsh22: It is possible.
01:28 <Vanhayes> #roulette
01:28 <@armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
01:29 <zurd> #roulette
01:29 -!- zurd [i=629675b5@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9a1c89646a35d4f8] has left #armagetron [requested by armabot: "BANG!"]
01:29  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
01:29 <Vanhayes> ha
01:29 <smoothice> #eightball Does nsh22 drink his own urine?
01:29 <@armabot> smoothice: You're kidding, right?
01:29 -!- zurd [i=629675b5@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9a1c89646a35d4f8] has joined #armagetron
01:29 <nsh22> #eightball will neal kick zurd hard if he doesnt pay his amount?
01:29 <@armabot> nsh22: The answer is def-- oooh! shiny thing!
01:29 <zurd> nuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
01:29 <nsh22> #eightball will neal kick zurd hard if he doesnt pay his amount?
01:29 <Vanhayes> zurd: Bang
01:29 <@armabot> nsh22: Come again?
01:29 <nsh22> #eightball will neal kick zurd hard if he doesnt pay his amount?
01:29 <@armabot> nsh22: _I_ don't know.
01:29 <nsh22> #eightball will nealpay his half?
01:29 <@armabot> nsh22: The outlook is poor.
01:29 <nsh22> #eightball will nealpay his half?
01:29 <@armabot> nsh22: About as likely as pigs flying.
01:29 <nsh22> s:P lol
01:29 <zurd> #rouleete
01:29 <nsh22> #eightball will neal pay his half?
01:29 <@armabot> nsh22: The outlook is hazy, please ask again later.
01:29 <nsh22> #eightball will neal pay his half?
01:29 <@armabot> nsh22: No clue.
01:29 <nsh22> #eightball will neal pay his half?
01:29 <@armabot> nsh22: No clue.
01:29 <nsh22> #eightball will neal pay his half?
01:29 <@armabot> nsh22: Come again?
01:29 <nsh22> #eightball will neal pay his half?
01:29 <@armabot> nsh22: What are you asking me for?
01:29 <nsh22> #eightball will neal pay his half?
01:29 <Vanhayes> #roulete
01:29 <@armabot> nsh22: What are you asking me for?
01:30 <@armabot> Vanhayes is trying to cheat!
01:30 <nsh22> #eightball will neal pay his half?
01:30 <smoothice> #eightball will neal pay his half?
01:30 <@armabot> nsh22: Maybe...
01:30 <@armabot> smoothice: What are you asking me for?
01:30 <zurd> #roulete
01:30 <smoothice> lol
01:30 <nsh22> ]r
01:30 <ljrbot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
01:30  * ljrbot reloads and spins the chambers.
01:30 <@armabot> zurd is trying to cheat!
01:30 <nsh22> :P
01:30 <zurd> #roulete
01:30 <Vanhayes> cheater
01:30 <@armabot> zurd is trying to cheat!
01:30 <zurd> what?!
01:30 <nsh22> #eightball is this thing reliable?
01:30 <Vanhayes> one l not two=cheating
01:30 <@armabot> nsh22: The outlook is hazy, please ask again later.
01:30 <nsh22> #eightball is this thing reliable?
01:30 <@armabot> nsh22: The answer is def-- oooh! shiny thing!
01:30 <nsh22> #eightball is this thing reliable?
01:30 <@armabot> nsh22: What are you asking me for?
01:30 <nsh22> #eightball is this thing reliable?
01:30 <@armabot> nsh22: You know the answer better than I.
01:30 <nsh22> #eightball is this thing reliable?
01:30 <@armabot> nsh22: No clue.
01:30 <nsh22> #eightball is this thing reliable?
01:30 <@armabot> nsh22: The answer is def-- oooh! shiny thing!
01:30 <zurd> #roulete
01:30 <@armabot> zurd is trying to cheat!
01:31 <smoothice> #eightball does neal suck?
01:31 <nsh22> #echo #r
01:31 <zurd> say it then >.<
01:31 <nsh22> #echo #roulette
01:31 <@armabot> smoothice: It is so.
01:31 <@armabot> #r
01:31 <smoothice> hah
01:31 <smoothice> neal sucks
01:31 <smoothice> :P
01:31 <@armabot> #roulette
01:31 <nsh22> #echo #roulette
01:31 <@armabot> #roulette
01:31 <Vanhayes> #roulette
01:31 -!- Vanhayes [i=Vanhayes@CPE001111c2dce8-CM001a66837916.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #armagetron [requested by armabot: "BANG!"]
01:31  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
01:31 <nsh22> #echo #roulette
01:31 <zurd> #roulete
01:31 <@armabot> #roulette
01:31 <@armabot> zurd is trying to cheat!
01:31 -!- Vanhayes [i=Vanhayes@CPE001111c2dce8-CM001a66837916.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #armagetron
01:31 <Vanhayes> bang
01:31 <zurd> IM NOT CHEATING!
01:31 <smoothice> #eightball Is zurd smart??
01:31 <nsh22> ITS TWO t's !!!!!!!!!!
01:31 <@armabot> smoothice: Yes!
01:31 <Vanhayes> #roulotte
01:31 <smoothice> awww
01:31 <@armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
01:31 <zurd> wooooooooooooo
01:31 <zurd> #roulete
01:31 <@armabot> zurd is trying to cheat!
01:32 <zurd> WTF!
01:32 <nsh22> #eightball is smooth dumb?
01:32 <@armabot> nsh22: Of course.
01:32 <smoothice> lol
01:32 <nsh22> :P
01:32 <zurd> HAHAHA!
01:32  * nsh22 loves armabot
01:32 <zurd> #eightball does neal love you?
01:32 <smoothice> #eightball Is zurd dumb???
01:32 <@armabot> zurd: About as likely as pigs flying.
01:32 <@armabot> smoothice: The outlook is good.
01:32 <Vanhayes> zurd: roulette has two ts
01:32 <smoothice> HAHAHAHA
01:32 <smoothice> I cracked eightball
01:32 <smoothice> I know how to make it answer yes
01:32 <zurd> #roulete
01:32 <smoothice> to ANY QUESTION!
01:32 <@armabot> zurd is trying to cheat!
01:32 <nsh22> #eightball is eightball correct?
01:32 <@armabot> nsh22: Naturally.
01:32 <nsh22> #eightball is eightball correct?
01:32 <@armabot> nsh22: Of course.
01:33 <nsh22> #eightball is eightball correct?
01:33 <@armabot> nsh22: Obviously.
01:33 <zurd> #eightball does neal love armabot?
01:33 <@armabot> zurd: No clue.
01:33 <nsh22> ...
01:33 <zurd> #eightball does neal love armabot?
01:33 <@armabot> zurd: No clue.
01:33 <zurd> #eightball does neal love armabot?
01:33 <@armabot> zurd: Come again?
01:33 <zurd> xD
01:33 <zurd> #eightball does neal love Zurd?
01:33 <nsh22> #eightball does zurd love himself?
01:33 <@armabot> zurd: What are you asking me for?
01:33 <@armabot> nsh22: Come again?
01:33 <nsh22> #eightball does zurd love himself?
01:33 <@armabot> nsh22: The outlook is hazy, please ask again later.
01:33 <smoothice> #eightball Is zurd a butthole???
01:33 <zurd> #eightball does neal love Zurd?
01:33 <@armabot> smoothice: Obviously.
01:33 <smoothice> HAHAHAHAH
01:33 <@armabot> zurd: What are you asking me for?
01:33 <zurd> NUUUUUUUUUUUU
01:33 <smoothice> Is zurd a butthole???
01:33 <smoothice> YES@!
01:33 <smoothice> #eightball Is zurd a butthole???
01:33 <@armabot> smoothice: The answer is certainly yes.
01:33 <nsh22> #eightball is smooth an open butthole?
01:33 <smoothice> nope
01:33 <@armabot> nsh22: Of course.
01:33 <smoothice> ...
01:33 <nsh22> :P
01:34 <nsh22> owned
01:34 <zurd> #eightball does smoothice play with himself while coding armagetron??
01:34 <@armabot> zurd: About as likely as pigs flying.
01:34 <zurd> #eightball does smoothice play with himself while coding armagetron??
01:34 <@armabot> zurd: NO!
01:34 <zurd> #eightball does smoothice play with himself while coding armagetron??
01:34 <@armabot> zurd: You're kidding, right?
01:34 <zurd> #eightball does smoothice play with himself??
01:34 <nsh22> #eightball does zurd play with himself when playinb g tron?
01:34 <@armabot> zurd: About as likely as pigs flying.
01:34 <@armabot> nsh22: The answer is certainly yes.
01:34 <Vanhayes> #flirt zurd
01:34 <zurd> >.>
01:34 <zurd> #eightball does smoothice play with himself??
01:34 <@armabot> zurd: No.
01:34 <nsh22> liar
01:34 <zurd> #eightball does Zurd play with himself??
01:34 <nsh22> :P
01:34 <@armabot> zurd: The answer is def-- oooh! shiny thing!
01:34 <zurd> #eightball does Zurd play with himself??
01:35 <smoothice> #eightball Is nsh22 a really bad tron player???????????????
01:35 <@armabot> zurd: No clue.
01:35 <@armabot> smoothice: Naturally.
01:35 <smoothice> jaja
01:35 <nsh22> :P
01:35 <smoothice> HAHAH!
01:35 <smoothice> you suck at tron!
01:35 <Vanhayes> #vanhayes
01:35 <@armabot> eh? eh? eh? eh? eh? eh? EH?!?!?!!!!!!1111ONEONE
01:35 <smoothice> knew it
01:35 <zurd> #eightball does neal play with himself??
01:35 <@armabot> zurd: _I_ don't know.
01:35 <nsh22> #eightball Does smoothice fail at life AND tron?
01:35 <@armabot> nsh22: In your dreams.
01:35 <nsh22> #eightball Does smoothice fail at life AND tron?
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01:35 <@armabot> nsh22: NO.
01:35 <smoothice> :D
01:35 <nsh22> #eightball Does smoothice fail at life?
01:35 <@armabot> nsh22: NO.
01:35 <zurd> #eightball does neal play with himself??
01:35 <nsh22> #eightball Does smoothice fail at life ?
01:35 <@armabot> zurd: No clue.
01:35 <zurd> #eightball does neal play with himself?
01:35 <@armabot> nsh22: You know the answer better than I.
01:35 <@armabot> zurd: No chance.
01:35 <nsh22> ew
01:35 <smoothice> #eightball Does nsh22 fail at life like everyone thinks????
01:35 <zurd> #eightball does zurd love his co-leaders?
01:35 <@armabot> smoothice: It shall be.
01:35 <@armabot> zurd: It shall be.
01:35 <smoothice> HAHAHAHAHAH
01:35 <zurd> #eightball does zurd love his co-leaders?
01:35 <@armabot> zurd: It is so.
01:35 <zurd> #eightball does zurd love his co-leaders?
01:35 <nsh22> :P
01:35 <@armabot> zurd: It is possible.
01:36 <zurd> #eightball does zurd love his co-leaders?
01:36 <@armabot> zurd: One would be wise to think so.
01:36 <zurd> #eightball does zurd love his co-leaders?
01:36 <@armabot> zurd: It shall be.
01:36 <zurd> #eightball does zurd love his co-leaders?
01:36 <@armabot> zurd: The answer is certainly yes.
01:36 <zurd> YOUR WRONG ARMABOT!!
01:36 <smoothice> #eightball Does zurd suck??????????????????????????????????
01:36 <@armabot> smoothice: One would be wise to think so.
01:36 <smoothice> haha
01:36 <Vanhayes> #t from english to french You all are spamming with armabot
01:36 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Error: "'from'" is not a valid language.  Valid languages include Chinese_simple, Chinese_traditional, Dutch, English, French, German, Greek, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Portuguese, Russian, and Spanish
01:36 <zurd> :C
01:36 <nsh22> #eightball will zurds co-leaders leave him like the others?
01:36 <@armabot> nsh22: Of course.
01:36 <Vanhayes> #t english to french You all are spamming with armabot
01:36 <smoothice> #t en fr You all suck
01:36 <nsh22> goddammit
01:36 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Error: Babelfish has foiled our plans by changing its webpage format.
01:36 <@armabot> smoothice: Error: Babelfish has foiled our plans by changing its webpage format.
01:36 <nsh22> goddammit
01:36 <nsh22> goddammit
01:36 <nsh22> #eightball will zurds co-leaders leave him like the others?
01:36 <@armabot> nsh22: The outlook is good.
01:36 <smoothice> lol
01:36 <zurd> :(
01:36 <Vanhayes> boo
01:36 <nsh22> #eightball will zurds co-leaders leave him like the others?
01:36 <zurd> :(
01:36 <@armabot> nsh22: Naturally.
01:36 <zurd> :(
01:36 <zurd> :(
01:36 <zurd> :(
01:36 <zurd> :(
01:36 <zurd> :(
01:36 <nsh22> #eightball will zurds co-leaders leave him like the others?
01:36 <zurd> :(
01:36 <zurd> :(
01:36 <zurd> :(
01:36 <@armabot> nsh22: Of course.
01:36 <zurd> :(
01:36 <zurd> :(
01:37 <zurd> stop spaming!
01:37 <nsh22> :C
01:37 <nsh22> :C
01:37 <nsh22> :C
01:37 <nsh22> :C
01:37 <nsh22> :C
01:37 <nsh22> :C
01:37 <smoothice> BabyBug: please #kick nsh22
01:37 <smoothice> You would be wise to do so.
01:37 <smoothice> Obviously.
01:37 <Vanhayes> #/me loves Vanhayes
01:37  * armabot loves Vanhayes
01:37 <nsh22> smoothice: .....
01:37 <Vanhayes> ya you do
01:37 <smoothice> #do loves nsh22 and wants to marry him and have a CHILD!
01:37 <@armabot> Another day...
01:37 <BabyBug> zurd and nsh22 you need to stop spamming
01:37 <zurd> #flirt vanhayes
01:38 <nsh22> BabyBug: OK!
01:38  * zurd is struck with silence
01:38 <nsh22> finnaly :P
01:38 <z-man> GOOD NIGHT ALL SPAM
01:38 <nsh22> GOOD NIGHT!
01:38 <zurd> ignight big Z
01:39 <smoothice> #alias add goodnight $1
01:39 <@armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
01:39 <smoothice> #goodnight nsh22
01:39 <nsh22> ...
01:39 <smoothice> haha
01:39 <smoothice> loophole!
01:39 <nsh22> fail
01:39 <smoothice> ownd
01:39 <smoothice> #say hi
01:39 <@armabot> hi
01:39 <smoothice> awwww
01:39 <Vanhayes> #praise smoothice
01:39  * armabot gives words of praise for smoothice
01:39 <smoothice> #dns nightwalkers.info
01:39 <@armabot> Host not found.
01:40 <Vanhayes> #praise nsh22
01:40  * armabot gives nsh22 a cookie
01:40 <nsh22> #alias add goodnight "echo Goodnight $1"
01:40 <@armabot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
01:40 <Vanhayes> #night
01:40 <@armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
01:40 <nsh22> #goodnight smoothice
01:40 <@armabot> Goodnight smoothice
01:40 <Vanhayes> alkready there
01:40 <nsh22> :P
01:40 <nsh22> i pwn aliases :P
01:40 <smoothice> you phail at Phailing to Phail!
01:40 <smoothice> llol
01:41  * zurd commends BabyBug for the future ban of nsh22
01:41 <Vanhayes> #cyborg
01:41 <@armabot> Vanhayes: V.A.N.H.A.Y.E.S.: Versatile Artificial Neohuman Hardwired for Accurate Yelling and Efficient Sabotage
01:41 <smoothice> #cyborg
01:41 <nsh22> #alias add phlail "echo smoothice"
01:41 <@armabot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
01:41 <@armabot> smoothice: S.M.O.O.T.H.I.C.E.: Synthetic Mechanical Organism Optimized for Troubleshooting, Hazardous Infiltration and Ceaseless Exploration
01:41 <smoothice> lol
01:41 <nsh22> #phliai;
01:41 <nsh22> #phliail
01:41 <nsh22> #phlail
01:41 <@armabot> smoothice
01:41 <Vanhayes> my yeling is accurate
01:41 <nsh22> :P
01:41 <zurd> #cyborg
01:41 <Vanhayes> #cyborg nsh22
01:41 <@armabot> zurd: Z.U.R.D.: Zealous Utility and Repair Device
01:41 <@armabot> Vanhayes: N.S.H.: Networked Synthetic Humanoid
01:41 <nsh22> ok im done, i g2g
01:41 <nsh22> ill be around
01:42 <zurd> suits me well
01:42 <zurd> night neal
01:42  * nsh22 is away: IM WATCHING YOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
01:42 <nsh22> :P\
01:42 <smoothice> yous?
01:42 <smoothice> PHAIL!
01:42 <smoothice> haha
01:42 <smoothice> ownd
01:42 <zurd> to nightwalkers DF!
01:42 <smoothice> k
01:42 <nsh22> cant
01:42 <nsh22> ...
01:42 <zurd> sucks for you then xD
01:42 <smoothice> #si -v ~Night Walker's Central~DF~
01:42 <smoothice> yay
01:42 <@armabot> smoothice: ~Night Walker's Central~DF~ ( running 0.2.8_alpha20090224 unix dedicated, url: Nightwalkers.info, Description: “Have fun, no cussing.“, Players (0/10):
01:42 <smoothice> 0/10?
01:42 <smoothice> :(
01:43 <zurd> :(
01:43 <zurd> people will show up in a matter of seconds
01:43 <smoothice> Nullification
01:50 <zurd> come on smooth >.<
01:50 <nsh22> #si ~night
01:50 <@armabot> nsh22: ~Night Walker's Central~DF~: Players (4/10): +|Hammer, +|Zurd~NW (ZURD101@forums), Mute~NW, Smoothisafail (nsh22@forums)
01:50 <nsh22> :P
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02:27 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty] r892 CYCLE_KILL_INVULNERABLE function. When disabled, player is i...
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02:42 <nsh22> #m luke-jr in regards to the vps server, if you did get it, cold you send the info for zurd and mines server to my email adress, or if you would like to get paid first i can pay you on monday (im going away tomorrow and wont be back until then).
02:42 <@armabot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
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03:32 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r888 Flags now move and work proporly
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03:34 <smoothice> hi luke-jr, nsh22 sent you a later tell
03:35 <luke-jr> prove it
03:35 <smoothice> ...
03:35 <luke-jr> XD
03:35 <smoothice> h22: #m luke-jr in regards to the vps server, if you did get it, cold you send the info for zurd and mines server to my email adress, or if you would like to get paid first i can pay you on monday (im going away tomorrow and wont be back until then).
03:35 <smoothice> lol
03:36 <luke-jr> well, I don't have the info to setup anything, so I guess it waits till Monday
03:36 <luke-jr> :/
03:36 <smoothice> :(
03:36 <smoothice> that' why I like fsckVPS
03:36 <smoothice> Instant setup VPS
03:36 <smoothice> in Dallas or Atlanta
03:36 <smoothice> from vaserv
03:36 <smoothice> hear that people?
03:36 <smoothice> FSCKVPS!
03:37 <smoothice> Instant Setup VPS!
03:38 <luke-jr> smoothice: not if you don't give them the info
03:43 <smoothice> you cannot sign up
03:43 <smoothice> if you don't give the the info
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04:06 <luke-jr> smoothice: exactly my point
04:06 <luke-jr> smoothice: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+spec/sty
04:07 <luke-jr> smoothice: each of the 19 parts on that list should be their own branch
04:08 <luke-jr> hope the roadmap helps ☺
04:08 <luke-jr> feel free to edit the whiteboard
04:09 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: bouncing shots should be a generic bouncing zones
04:10 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: right you are
04:12 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: how can I get a good measure for the speed of the player to apply to speed of the zone
04:13 <luke-jr> uh?
04:14 <ct|kyle> owner_->Direction().x * owner_->Speed()  makes it move way too fast
04:16 <luke-jr> does it? :x
04:16 <luke-jr> that's what I was about to suggest XD
04:17 <ct|kyle> ya it moves away from the player
04:17 <luke-jr> :/
04:27 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: what is the difference between HELP_MESSAGE (sty) and HELP_INTRODUCTORY_BLURB (trunk)?
04:27 <sinewav> tr fort
04:27 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: help_message in sty is no longer needed
04:27 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: that doesn't answer my question :/
04:28 <ct|kyle> the pigs was a general help message on /help and /help only. the one in tron has /help <topics>
04:28 <luke-jr> I'm not asking about the topics, just that one config parameter
04:29 <ct|kyle> .cfg2 HELP_INTRODUCTORY_BLU
04:29 <ct|kyle> #cfg2 HELP_INTRODUCTORY_BLU
04:29 <@armabot> ct|kyle: HELP_INTRODUCTORY_BLURB: Message that is displayed before the list of help topics if someone uses /help without arguments
04:29 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: they are the same
04:30 <luke-jr> then why are they named different? -.-
04:31 <ct|kyle> I was not in charge of naming
04:31 <ct|kyle> :P
04:31 <ct|kyle> pig created the HELP_MESSAGE  and I think z-man created the HELP_INTRODUCTORY_BLURB
04:31 <ct|kyle> HELP_MESSAGE should be obsolete
04:32 <ct|kyle> #cfg2 HELP_MESSAGE
04:32 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Sorry, no matches :S
04:32 <ct|kyle> #cfg2 HELP_
04:32 <@armabot> ct|kyle: ADD_HELP_TOPIC: Add a new help topic to be used with /help. Usage: ADD_HELP_TOPIC || HELP_INTRODUCTORY_BLURB: Message that is displayed before the list of help topics if someone uses /help without arguments || REMOVE_HELP_TOPIC: Remove a help topic.
04:33 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: so I see 2 differences
04:33 <luke-jr> config name and an extra \n
04:34  * luke-jr writes a quick sty-compat branch
04:34 <ct|kyle> there really is no need for the olf HELP_MESSAGE
04:34 <ct|kyle> old*
04:35 <luke-jr> so sty configs work?
04:36 <ct|kyle> also luke-jr how should I handle putting the /drop stuff in ePlayer
04:36 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: ☺
04:36 <luke-jr> I was just thinking of that earleir
04:36 <luke-jr> there is only one good solution
04:36 <luke-jr> a proper trigger interface! :p
04:37 <ct|kyle> can't we just define flag zones being compiled and place something like that around it in ePlayer
04:38 <luke-jr> so uh, consider it todo
04:38 <luke-jr> we could, I suppose
04:38 <luke-jr> but a proper solution will be needed at some point
04:38 <luke-jr> I prefer to do it when needed ☺
04:38 <ct|kyle> almost needed :P
04:39 <ct|kyle> I've got getting the speed correct and getting IsHome() working
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04:40 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: remember, I fully expect flags to take a few rewrites before it's ready for merging
04:40 <luke-jr> so feel free to hack it in for this revision
04:41 <ct|kyle> kind of like how I used magic numbers  shape->setPosX(tFunction(owner_->Position().x, 0.0));
04:43 <ivantis2> hey look its luke-jr
04:43 <ivantis2> hai
04:44 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: shooting will need triggers too
04:45 <ct|kyle> ya shooting will be a bitch
04:45 <luke-jr> /shoot and /+shoot ☺
04:45 <ivantis2> what are you guys talking about?
04:45 <luke-jr> will need client-side support to handle the latter properly
04:45 <ct|kyle> you are not sugesting chatting to shoot
04:45 <luke-jr> ivantis2: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+spec/sty
04:46 <ivantis2> i thought you hated sty
04:46 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: I'm suggesting making the instant chat system into a trigger system ☺
04:46 <ct|kyle> not a bad idea for backporting, but a shot key for current would be nice
04:46 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: so an instachat of /+shoot will send "/+shoot" when you press the key and "/-shoot" when you release it
04:46 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: "/shoot" would be like press+release
04:47 <ct|kyle> ah
04:48 <luke-jr> ivantis2: why would I hate sty?
04:49 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: could you take a look at lines 259 - 324 of zFlag.cpp
04:49 <ivantis2> idk
04:49 <ivantis2> luke-jr, you should sign up on elance.com
04:49 <ivantis2> and get a job
04:50 <luke-jr> ivantis2: get a clue, elance.com would put me in the poor house
04:50 <luke-jr> ivantis2: I charge $45/hr for my work
04:50 <ivantis2> so do a lot of people on elance
04:50  * luke-jr stabs ct|kyle for using tab characters
04:50 <ivantis2> experienced people on there are usually from $40 to $60 an hour
04:51 <ct|kyle> tab characters?
04:51 <luke-jr> ivantis2: I have too much work to take on any more projects
04:51 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: yes
04:51 <ct|kyle> o0
04:51 <ivantis2> why are you here?
04:51 <ct|kyle> they should be spaces
04:51 <ivantis2> i dont like using tab
04:51 <ivantis2> s
04:53 <luke-jr> #kick ivantis2
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04:53 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: yeah, they should be
04:53 <luke-jr> anyhow, are you going to tell me what the problem is?
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04:55 <luke-jr> ivantis2: btw, I don't think elance people want to pay you to go bug people in #Google asking them to do the work for you
04:55 <ct|kyle> for some reason it is counting home flags as not home
04:55 <luke-jr>     if ((shape->getPosition().x == homePosition_X)
04:55 <luke-jr>         && (shape->getPosition().y == homePosition_Y))
04:55 <luke-jr> you can't do that
04:55 <luke-jr> just check if the flag is held or not
04:56 <luke-jr> or maybe a new boolean
04:56 <ct|kyle> flag does not have to be held to be away from home
04:56 <ct|kyle> but ya I could do an atHome=true when GoHome() is called
04:57 <ivantis2> i didnt ask for the work to be done
04:57 <ivantis2> i was asking if anyone was familiar with how it worked
04:57 <ivantis2> but i figured it out on my own
05:00 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: heh Boolean is already there, must not have been merged
05:06 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: heh, I am looking for flags of the same team that the flag the player is holding (otherFlag->Team() == team)
05:07 <luke-jr> …
05:07 <luke-jr> and?
05:07 <ct|kyle> I should be using players team instead of team
05:09 <ct|kyle> btw luke-jr it is smoothice using tabs
05:09 <ivantis> …
05:09 <ivantis> ha i have the …
05:09 <ivantis> :P
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05:09 <ct|kyle> ...
05:11 <ivantis2> ...
05:12 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: I'm updating 0.2.8-sty+ct
05:13 <ct|kyle> what for luke-jr
05:13 <ct|kyle> oh
05:13 <luke-jr> to get a clean diff from 0.2.8-sty to 0.2.8-sty+ct
05:13 <luke-jr> ☺
05:13 <ct|kyle> oh LOL, ya that does need to be done
05:13 <luke-jr> rev 662 of my branch is merge 0.2.8
05:15 <ct|kyle> are there any conflicts?
05:15 <luke-jr> one
05:15 <luke-jr> in english_base
05:16 <ct|kyle> well then I'll merge and push it
05:23 <luke-jr> not done yet, going to merge 0.2.8-sty too
05:25 <ct|kyle> the bouncing stuff we will want to use the ct+sty code
05:25 <luke-jr> which "we"?
05:25 <ct|kyle> of course modified for zones v2
05:25 <ct|kyle> for 0.3 Sty
05:26 <luke-jr> why?
05:28 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=204341#204341
05:28 <luke-jr> oh, just bugfixes?
05:29 <ct|kyle> it is global too I think the one in sty is zone specific
05:29 <luke-jr> I was scared we'd need to make a "bounce style" option XD
05:29 <luke-jr> remember, this is a rewrite ;)
05:31 <ct|kyle> that code is a little more than I can handle :P and definitely more than smoothice can handle
05:31 <luke-jr> maybe I'll give it a shot then
05:34 <ct|kyle> the hard part about bouncing at least off of walls in zones v2 is knowing what direction it should go. because if the center of zone does not Aline with the point of impact in the direction  of the impact than I think the zone spins or something
05:41 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r662 merging with 0.2.8 r1098 || [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty] r893 merge from 0.2.8 || [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r662 merge from 0.2.8 || [armagetronad-sty-help-compat] r893 HELP_MESSAGE alias to HELP_INTRODUCTORY_BLURB for compatibil...
05:45 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: so tabs -> spaces?
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06:25 <zurd> luke-jr: ping
06:25 <ivantis2> ]echo pong
06:26 <ivantis2> oh right its still ignoring me
06:26 <zurd> lol
06:26 <ivantis2> man im tired
06:26 <ivantis2> maybe i should get to bed
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06:44 <zurd> #q
06:44 <@armabot> zurd: Quote #35: "ur not a good writer :P - Ady" (added by Lucifer_arma at 11:00 PM, November 13, 2006)
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06:53 <ivantis2> #q
06:53 <@armabot> ivantis2: Quote #76: "<Lucifer> vista doesn't have the kind of boobs that KDE has" (added by ivantis at 05:54 AM, July 31, 2008)
06:53 <ivantis2> oh i remember that one
06:53 <ivantis2> it was right before i went to Wisconsin
06:56 <ivantis2> #quote get #crazy-tronners 2
06:56 <@armabot> ivantis2: Quote #2: "(11:44:13) eddiefantastic: I'd rather stick my cock in a jar of honey, roll it in oats then feed it to a goat" (added by ct|kyle at 05:49 PM, December 12, 2007)
06:57 <ivantis2> ...than use vista
06:59 <luke-jr> ivantis2: you ARE vista
07:00 <ivantis2> you would rather do that than talk to me?
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07:04 <ivantis2> 4
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07:06 <ivantis2> hey look its epsy
07:06 <ivantis2> what time is it in france right now?
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07:18 <ivantis> epsy: do you have a spring break where you live?
07:19 <ivantis> ignored! how rude!
07:19 <ivantis> ok, fine
07:19 <ivantis> dont answer me
07:19  * ivantis pouts
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12:36 <BabyBug> Hey baby <3
12:37 <Lizmatic> hello girl that banned me <3
12:38 <BabyBug> ^^
12:42  * Lizmatic spanks
12:44 <BabyBug> ...
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16:25 <ivantis2> #roulette
16:25 <@armabot> ivantis2: *click*
16:26 <ivantis2> #roulette
16:26 <@armabot> ivantis2: *click*
16:26 <ivantis2> ~echo #roulette
16:26 <The_Master> #roulette
16:26 <@armabot> The_Master: *click*
16:26 <The_Master> armabot: What color are your eyes?
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16:27 <ivantis2> ~echo #roulette
16:27 <The_Master> #roulette
16:27 <@armabot> The_Master: *click*
16:27 <The_Master> armabot: Not many people express themselves that way.
16:29 <ivantis2> ~echo #roulette
16:29 <The_Master> #roulette
16:29 <@armabot> The_Master: *click*
16:29 <The_Master> armabot: Are you really a " armabot"?
16:29 <ivantis2> come on, bang!
16:30 <ivantis2> ~echo #roulette
16:30 <The_Master> #roulette
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16:30  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
16:31 <ivantis2> ownd
16:32 <ivantis2> is ttech gonna be mad at me?
16:32 <ivantis2> Ttech[daedalus], sorry i couldnt help myself
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16:47 <joda_bot> #whoami
16:47 <@armabot> joda_bot: joda_bot
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16:53 <ivantis2> #meow!
16:53 <@armabot> ¡ʍoǝɯ
16:54 <mib_n8inlj> ?
16:54 <mib_n8inlj> #meow!
16:55 <@armabot> ¡ʍoǝɯ#
16:55 <ivantis2> ?
16:55 <ivantis2> #meow!
16:55 <@armabot> ¡ʍoǝɯ#
16:55 <ivantis2> ...
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16:57 <ivantis> #meow!
16:57 <@armabot> ¡ʍoǝɯ#
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18:04 <pruWord> someone here?:P
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20:31 <ivantis> luke-jr: ping
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20:51 <Concord> #si cafe
20:52 <@armabot> Concord: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
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20:59 <ivantis> dudes! guess what!
20:59 <Vanhayes> what?
20:59 <ivantis> im going to visit where luke-jr lives
20:59 <ivantis> omaha nebraska
21:00 <ivantis> its a thing for boyscouts
21:01 <noob13> :D
21:01 <ivantis> im going to some museum
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21:03 <ivantis> okay i need to conserve cell phone battery for this trip
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21:07 <Concord> #si trfort
21:07 <@armabot> Concord: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “trfort” at the moment, sorry.
21:07 <Concord> #si tr
21:07 <@armabot> Concord: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: Players (10/14): ((=>Basket<=)), ct°$afari$Kater, Gardo, Guybrush, LA PANTERA, Player 1, PSYCHOHOLIC, yousux.com, ~|DS|~AshitakA, °°° ³dot °°°
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21:45 <Lackadaisical> Lucifer: who's the dedicated web guy you mentioned on the forums?
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22:08 <epsy> Lackadaisical, do you read alistapart?
22:08 <Lackadaisical> sometimes
22:08 <Lackadaisical> don't do much webstuff lately, so not much these days
22:09 <epsy> yeah
22:10 <epsy> you've been talking about whitespace, did you read it's issue about it?
22:10 <epsy> http://www.alistapart.com/articles/whitespace/
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22:11 <Lackadaisical> ah yeah thats an old one
22:11 <Lackadaisical> but i was just talking about whitespace because kamp mentioned it in his post
22:12 <epsy> I originally thought of something like phpbb.com
22:12 <epsy> er
22:12 <epsy> now that the page loaded, no
22:13 <epsy> well, anyway I revised my thought and considered it wouldn't really be tron at all
22:13 <epsy> so I thought about a "screen" theme
22:14 <epsy> you see, with alternating rows and stuff like that
22:14 <epsy> after all, we have something like that already
22:14 <Lackadaisical> you mean for the forums?
22:14 <epsy> for the whole, why shuld it be different all over
22:14 <epsy> (of course I don't mean forum posts)
22:15 <Lackadaisical> ah ok so what rows are you talking about then?
22:15 <epsy> well, these are on the forums
22:15 <epsy> we'd just have to make it a lot more hawt
22:17 <epsy> but well, I wouldn't use it as background
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22:18 <Lackadaisical> do you have any examples of "screen" themes?
22:18 <epsy> let me check a second
22:18 <Lackadaisical> just want to make sure im thinking of the same thing as you ;)
22:18 <epsy> well, try to get one as well
22:19 <epsy> hal is useless >.>
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22:27 <epsy> hm
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22:35 <ivantis> luke-jr: ping
22:36 <epsy> Lackadaisical, I can hardly find any :(
22:36 <ivantis> epsy: am i once again on your ignore list?
22:36 <Lackadaisical> mmm ok
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22:38 <epsy> Lackadaisical, maybe this: (in front of the "3") and here:
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22:38 <epsy> that's the only I could find and it's not very descriptive
22:39 <Lackadaisical> those are quakescreenshots?
22:40 <epsy> indeed
22:41 <epsy> is it clear enough?
22:43 <Lackadaisical> well i guess it has a lot more tronlike feel than the sites i linked at least
22:43 <Lackadaisical> a dark website would definatly be the most tronlike, but it doesnt necessarily mean we have to ditch using whitespace
22:43 <epsy> yeah, well it will better stay as a small gimmick
22:44 <Lackadaisical> you just mean the little scores right?
22:44 <epsy> (and nto being thrown everywhere)
22:44 <epsy> hm?
22:45 <epsy> the ones on the ad panel, right? (where the QL logo stands)
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22:45 <compguygene> hi epsy
22:46 <epsy> damn, am I even here?
22:46 <epsy> hi :)
22:46 <compguygene> wanted to say thanks for the settings
22:46 <compguygene> we tested them
22:46 <compguygene> they absolutely rock
22:46 <epsy> heh
22:46 <compguygene> also
22:46 <compguygene> i got a vps in germany
22:46 <epsy> it will need some updates I think
22:47 <compguygene> so between that and the one i have in connecticut
22:47 <compguygene> i can pretty much host this thing
22:47 <Concord> the website looks like it goes with arma version 2.5, just making that blue grid thing black will make a huge difference
22:47 <Concord> (just like the floor is now black)
22:47 <epsy> well, we can't share the adminnig of 8 servers
22:48 <epsy> Concord, it's not really about the color
22:48 <epsy> Concord, a tiny touch of blue will help
22:48 <epsy> Lackadaisical, [23:45] <epsy>: the ones on the ad panel, right? (where the QL logo stands)
22:48 <compguygene> well, concord's latest post on playfortress is the answer to that
22:48 <Concord> http://www.armagetronad.net/screenshots/ss_fort_1.png  V http://www.armagetronad.net/screenshots/screenshot_12.png
22:49 <epsy> ah
22:49 <compguygene> just wanted to keep you updated
22:49 <compguygene> you laid the groundwork for future kewlness, thank you very much!
22:50  * compguygene leaves you to you more important constant work on arma...
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22:51 <epsy> mm
22:51 <epsy> wish I was working
22:51 <epsy> also
22:51 <epsy> compguygene, #armagetron.tourneys
22:51 <compguygene> ahh...didn't know
22:51 <compguygene> ty
22:51 <epsy> one big part of knowing eachother's tourneys is to put them in one place
22:51 <epsy> the chantopic there is for that
22:51 <compguygene> ok
22:51 <compguygene> ty
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22:52 <epsy> so edit it :)
22:52  * compguygene never has checked a channel list
22:52 <Lackadaisical> i see three ql logos
22:52 <epsy> Lackadaisical, the one on the center of the screen
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23:08 <zurd> #
23:08 <zurd> #q
23:08 <@armabot> zurd: Quote #74: "Pathetique: I find it funny how ivantis can write C++ but has no clue how to actually write it." (added by ct|kyle at 09:07 PM, July 28, 2008)
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23:25 <noob13> #tea
23:25 <@armabot> noob13: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
23:28 <luke-jr> ivantis FAIL
23:29 <epsy> luke-jr, he didn't even talk yet did he?
23:30 <luke-jr> epsy: he's been pinging me all day
23:30 <epsy> there's always a solution
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00:03 <z-man> any mumble testing going on?
00:03 <luke-jr> nope
00:04 <luke-jr> just some guy in #KCLUG who is trying to use a damaged-in-shipment system instead of returning it
00:05 <z-man> Sounds like fun.
00:06 <luke-jr> his kernel build took 3 hours because of HD issues
00:06 <luke-jr> and he had to reinsert the RAM and something else
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00:26 <joda_bot> z-man: are you stil awake ?
00:26 <z-man> No :)
00:26 <joda_bot> hehe
00:26 <joda_bot> I just send the mumbles people our dev mumbles thread
00:26 <joda_bot> and asked if anyone is interested to give their view on our approach
00:27 <luke-jr> does Mumble communicate thru the game server?
00:27 <epsy> nighty
00:27 <joda_bot> gn8 epsy
00:27 <luke-jr> or what?
00:27 <z-man> luke-jr: no, not yet, of course :)
00:27 <z-man> But the plan would be that we develop a management module (in python, say)
00:27  * luke-jr wonders why we can't just add a VOICE_URI setting and support standard SIP or IAX2
00:27 <z-man> and the game server tells the management module which players are on and in which teams
00:27 <epsy> aw, that means stuff that depends on me?
00:28 <z-man> The management module then talks to murmur and sets it up accordingly.
00:28 <luke-jr> epsy: you're working on Python support too? :o
00:28 <epsy> on allowing it to be easily done
00:28 <z-man> epsy: you mean eEvent?
00:28 <epsy> as part of the modules branch
00:28 <epsy> trunk-eevent-modules
00:29 <luke-jr> epsy: does that by any chance cover generic triggers?
00:29 <epsy> it's not really in a good-looking form yet, sorry
00:29 <epsy> luke-jr, hooks?
00:29 <luke-jr> hooks?
00:29 <epsy> luke-jr, handled with boost::errrrrrrrrrrrrr
00:29 <epsy> boost::signals
00:30 <luke-jr> no, where a client can bind a key(s) to a trigger, say 'jump'
00:30 <epsy> ah
00:30 <luke-jr> and press that to jump
00:30 <epsy> not yet
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00:30 <epsy> and I don't see it as related to modules
00:30 <luke-jr> or bind it to '+jump' to send '+jump' on keydown and '-jump' on keyup
00:30 <epsy> yeah, I know :)
00:30 <luke-jr> well, it's slightly related to the API anyhow
00:30 <luke-jr> since plugins will need to define new triggers
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00:31 <epsy> but it's still something that's worth it's own document, isn't it?
00:32 <epsy> don't let me ramble on this topic yet :)
00:32 <epsy> nighty
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00:34 <smoothice> #cfg2 ladderlog_write_round_score
00:34 <@armabot> smoothice: LADDERLOG_WRITE_ROUND_SCORE: Write to ladderlog: ROUND_SCORE [](Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_ROUND_SCORE_TEAM: Write to ladderlog: ROUND_SCORE_TEAM (Default: 1 )
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00:37 <smoothice> Zurd: any luck?
00:38 -!- Concord [n=Concord@pool-72-93-80-152.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit []
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00:38 <smoothice> z-man: Do you have chronic Internet issues or something? :P
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00:39 <luke-jr> …
00:39 <z-man> humm, beats me.
00:39 <smoothice> z-man left the chat room. (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer))
00:39 <smoothice> z-manuel joined the chat room.
00:39 <smoothice> zmanuel joined the chat room.
00:39 <smoothice> lots of that lol
00:39 <Zurd> smoothice not yet
00:39 <smoothice> zurd: k
00:40 <z-man> I only have one reconnect here.
00:40 <z-man> and my ssh connection to my server was stable.
00:40 <z-man> Must have been my freenode host.
00:41 <smoothice> yeah
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00:41 <smoothice> #dict chronic
00:41 <Zurd> what ssh clients do you guys use??
00:41 <smoothice> heeee
00:41 <@armabot> smoothice: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: wn: chronic adj 1: being long-lasting and recurrent or characterized by long suffering; "chronic indigestion"; "a chronic shortage of funds"; "a chronic invalid" [ant: {acute}] 2: having a habit of long standing; "a chronic smoker" [syn: {confirmed}, {habitual}, {inveterate(a)}]; gcide: Chronic \Chron"ic\, a. [L. chronicus, Gr. ? concerning (4 more messages)
00:42 <PinkTomato> Zurd: the standard one
00:42 <smoothice> PinkTomato: zurd uses windows
00:42 <smoothice> luke-jr: why is the hostname for your VPSes "reserved"?
00:43 <luke-jr> smoothice: wtf?
00:43 <smoothice> 12  reserved (*censored*)  72.748 ms  72.000 ms  72.638 ms
00:43 <smoothice> on traceroute
00:43 <luke-jr> no idea ☺
00:43 <smoothice> ...
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00:43 <luke-jr> smoothice: is it a problem?
00:43 <smoothice> yeah
00:43 <smoothice> it's annoying
00:43 <smoothice> lol
00:43 <luke-jr> and fwiw, that's not a hostname
00:43 <PinkTomato> what's the IP of a luke-jr vps then?
00:43 <luke-jr> it's RDNS
00:44 <smoothice> ok
00:44 <smoothice> umm
00:44 <smoothice> *censored* = Why would I tell you
00:44 <smoothice> IPs are private stuff
00:44 <smoothice> or not
00:44 <smoothice> I don't know
00:44 <luke-jr>
00:44 <luke-jr>
00:44 <PinkTomato> smoothice: are you going to host it as an armagetronad server?
00:44 <smoothice> PinkTomato: I'm not a luke-jr customer
00:45 <Zurd> no ssh client is working for me luke.
00:45 <smoothice> luke-jr:
00:46 <smoothice> VoiceOver is the remarkable new feature that gives iPod shuffle a voice.* It tells you what song is playing and who's performing it. It can even tell you the names of your playlists.
00:46 <PinkTomato> smoothice: oh right
00:46 <Zurd> >>
00:46 <smoothice> PinkTomato: probably never will be unless he lowers his prices for good
00:46 <smoothice> PinkTomato: how's the DD racing server?
00:46 <luke-jr> Zurd: what SSH client did you try?
00:47 <smoothice> PinkTomato: I think I'll go play there right now :D
00:47 <luke-jr> smoothice: you missed that promo for some reason
00:47 <Zurd> i have tried putty, filezilla, openssh
00:47 <PinkTomato> smoothice: DD racing is not so good
00:47 <luke-jr> I'd like to know wtf Filezilla has to do with SSH
00:47 <luke-jr> Zurd: so what's the problem? I know openssh works..
00:47 <Zurd> it has an ssh option...
00:47 <smoothice> PinkTomato: Why?
00:47 <smoothice> luke-jr: he means SFTP
00:48 <PinkTomato> smoothice: $tronners too kmy traffic :)
00:48 <smoothice> luke-jr: which obviously works over ssh
00:48 <smoothice> PinkTomato: oh haha
00:48 <PinkTomato> and for the last 4 days, it was using 100% CPU
00:48 <smoothice> DD racing?
00:48 <PinkTomato> ye
00:48  * luke-jr just logged in to Zurd's VPS via SSH
00:48 <smoothice> :O
00:48 <Zurd> luke-jr, openssh installed on my computer, then i couldnt locate it anywhere
00:48 <luke-jr> Zurd: so you tried it how exactly? :o
00:48 <PinkTomato> smoothice: fixed now though
00:49 <luke-jr> Zurd: open a command prompt and type
00:49 <luke-jr> ssh root@
00:49 <Zurd> i say the folder, then in the folder was nothing.
00:49 <smoothice> PinkTomato: did cheapVPS kick your ass?
00:49 <smoothice> PinkTomato: :P
00:50 <luke-jr> smoothice: cheapVPS kicks people?
00:50 <luke-jr> cheapVPS isn't so cheap. ;p
00:50 <smoothice> ...
00:50 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: It was 6 months ago :)
00:50 <smoothice> ...
00:50 <PinkTomato> wait, it's march now
00:50 <smoothice> ...
00:50 <smoothice> wow
00:50 <Zurd> luke-jr, did nothing once command executed
00:50 <PinkTomato> It feels like January.
00:51 <luke-jr> Zurd: what?
00:51 <PinkTomato> smoothice: no notice from them :).
00:51 <joda_bot> luke-jr: he might just have gotten the same prompt as @home ?
00:51 <joda_bot> luke-jr: after being logged in without password request ?
00:52 <smoothice> PinkTomato: lol!
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00:53 <luke-jr> joda_bot: nope, I'm the only one logged in still
00:53 <joda_bot> k
00:54 <Zurd> luke-jr, "The authenticity of host ' <>' can't be established. RSA key fingerprint is 27:98:64:53:91:46:54:ec:41:3f:81:24:00:79:ca."
00:54 <Zurd> "do you wish to continue <yes/no>"
00:54 <Zurd> "yes"
00:54 <smoothice> yes
00:54 <joda_bot> yes
00:55 <luke-jr> YES
00:55 <smoothice> YES!!!
00:55 <joda_bot> #echo yes
00:55 <Zurd> "warning permenatly added "ip"
00:55 <Zurd> >.<
00:55 <smoothice> @echo YES!
00:55 <teabot> YES!
00:55 <@armabot> yes
00:55 <luke-jr> ]echo YEEESSSSSSSS
00:55 <ljrbot> YEEESSSSSSSS
00:55 <Zurd> ok....
00:55 <Zurd> o.o
00:55 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: was that you?
00:55 <smoothice> ..
00:55 <luke-jr> Zurd: and the problem is?
00:56 <Zurd> "connection closed by "ip"
00:56 <luke-jr> ……..
00:56 <Zurd> IDK!!!!!!
00:56 <luke-jr> Zurd: that's all?
00:56 <Zurd> WTF
00:56 <smoothice> ?
00:56 <luke-jr> Zurd: install http://tightvnc.com
00:56 <PinkTomato> Those errors annoy me too much.
00:56 <smoothice> YOur VPSes have VNC?
00:57 <PinkTomato> smoothice: other way round
00:57 <luke-jr> smoothice: no, I have VNC to look at wtf he's doing wrong -.-
00:57 <smoothice> that's privacy violation luke
00:57 <luke-jr> uh, no it isn't
00:57 <smoothice> what a creeper! :D
00:57 <luke-jr> it's customer assistance
00:57 <PinkTomato> smoothice: if Zurd OK's it, no problem
00:58 <Zurd> ...wtf is it....
00:58 <smoothice> now zurd has to port forward
00:58 <luke-jr> smoothice: no he doesn't
00:58 <smoothice> Yes he does
00:58 <PinkTomato> no,
00:58 <luke-jr> Zurd: like remote desktop
00:58 <PinkTomato> Zurd: connects to luke-jr port forwarded machine
00:58 <PinkTomato> connection established, all is well.
00:58 <Zurd> yeah, so he can view my comp, i know
00:59 <smoothice> luke-jr: yes he does
00:59 <luke-jr> smoothice: nope
00:59 <PinkTomato> smoothice: read above ^^
00:59 <Zurd> the problem is, he'll always have access
00:59 <PinkTomato> :)
00:59 <luke-jr> Zurd: nope
00:59 <PinkTomato> Zurd: only while VNC is runnin
00:59 <luke-jr> Zurd: you just boot me when you're done
00:59 <Zurd> kk
00:59 <smoothice> since when does VNC utilize dynamic routing?
00:59 <luke-jr> smoothice: stfu and watch
01:00 <Zurd> xD
01:00 <PinkTomato> smoothice: Listening Client
01:00 <luke-jr> Zurd: after you install, right click the system tray icon and select Add New Client
01:00 <luke-jr> Zurd: type in: nat.router.dashjr.org
01:00 <smoothice> PinkTomato: oh yeah
01:00 <smoothice> PinkTomato: right...
01:00 <smoothice> PinkTomato: lol
01:00 <PinkTomato> ;)
01:02 <luke-jr> hey, Zurd's VPS got 13 packets
01:02 <smoothice> cool?
01:02 <luke-jr> dunno, I'm just bored
01:02 <luke-jr> ping it a few times to make it go up
01:03 <smoothice> how about 1mb packet pings
01:03 <smoothice> :P
01:03 <smoothice> don't fret!
01:03 <smoothice> I won't~
01:03 <smoothice> lol
01:03 <Zurd> "failed to connect to server (nat.router.dashjr.org)"
01:03 <luke-jr> smoothice: 1 MB is too big for a packet across the internet
01:03 <luke-jr> Zurd: ………
01:03 <smoothice> luke-jr: oh lol
01:03 <Zurd> O.O
01:04 <luke-jr> Zurd: do you have some kind of evil draconian firewall?
01:04 <Zurd> you guys making a fool outa me??
01:04 <smoothice> luke-jr is :P
01:04 <luke-jr> heck, how are you on IRC? :/
01:04 <smoothice> mibbit
01:04 <luke-jr> is he really? :x
01:04 <smoothice> ..
01:04 <luke-jr> crap
01:04 <luke-jr> that might be it then
01:04 <smoothice> ...
01:04 <Zurd> hang on.
01:04 <smoothice> Zurd: don't let luke-jr get to your mind
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01:04 <luke-jr> Zurd: I think your firewall is blocking it
01:05 <smoothice> I use MAC
01:05 <smoothice> no firewalls needed
01:05 <smoothice> :D
01:05 <luke-jr> MAC != Mac
01:05 <luke-jr> idiot
01:05 <smoothice> no
01:05 <smoothice> I mean't MAC
01:05  * luke-jr ponders writing a working zZone in one night to make a fool of smoothice ;)
01:05 <smoothice> phsycial address
01:05 <smoothice> luke-jr: dammit
01:06  * smoothice ponders spreading word that luke'jr's service is crap
01:06 <luke-jr> smoothice: that'd be slander
01:06 <luke-jr> and illegal :o
01:06 <smoothice> luke-jr: ?
01:06 <smoothice> luke-jr: how is that illegal
01:06 <smoothice> luke-jr: freedom of speech my friend
01:06 <luke-jr> slander is illegal
01:06 <luke-jr> freedom of speech doesn't exist
01:06 <smoothice> first amendment rights -.-
01:06 <luke-jr> welcome to the real world
01:06 <luke-jr> the Consitution and its amendments are just paper
01:06  * Zurd is still waiting for the security center to pop us...
01:06 <smoothice> Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
01:07 <sinewave> Freedom of speech implies you can say things about the gov, not your neighbors.
01:07 <smoothice> ?
01:07 <luke-jr> smoothice: Congress maybe not, that's why they do it in other parts of the govt
01:07 <smoothice> ...
01:07 <luke-jr> and sinewave's point is good too
01:07 <smoothice> this is a stupid conservation
01:07 <luke-jr> smoothice: test it
01:07 <smoothice> no
01:07 <luke-jr> smoothice: go see a movie and yell FIRE in the middle
01:08 <luke-jr> (without a fire ofc)
01:08 <smoothice> that'd be disorderly conduct
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01:08 <luke-jr> freedom of speech ;)
01:08 <sinewave> hi lack
01:08 <smoothice> yes
01:08 <smoothice> but
01:08 <smoothice> choosing to say I don't like your service
01:08 <smoothice> Isn't disorderly conduct
01:08 <luke-jr> smoothice: that's not what you said though
01:08 <smoothice> ?
01:08 <luke-jr> you made an objective statement claiming it was crap
01:08 <luke-jr> which is not true
01:09 <luke-jr> nor have you ever even tried it
01:09 <smoothice> ok
01:09 <smoothice> I disagree with my statement
01:09 <luke-jr> …
01:09 <smoothice> my fault
01:09 <smoothice> I'm stupid
01:09 <luke-jr> way to make a brainfsck
01:09 <smoothice> ?
01:09 <cpayan> Yell "fire" when there's an explosion on screen and you can probably get some people to run
01:09 <luke-jr> #quote add "[19:09:13] <smoothice> I disagree with my statement"
01:09 <cpayan> :)
01:09 <Zurd> im starting to get pissed off...
01:09 <@armabot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.  Quote #91 added.
01:09 <Zurd> do i need to go into my router?
01:10 <luke-jr> Zurd: can't hurt
01:10 <Zurd> that'll be fun...its defaulted to spanish...or freanch
01:10 <luke-jr> wtf
01:11 <smoothice> luke-jr: go ahead... call me stupid
01:11 <luke-jr> smoothice: ?
01:11 <cpayan> Do you have a Willy Wonka style miniaturization machine?
01:11 <Zurd> what is the default ip for router?
01:11  * smoothice apologizes to luke-jr
01:11 <smoothice> zurd:
01:11 <luke-jr> OMG THAT IS A SWEET IDEA
01:11 <smoothice> ...
01:12 <Zurd> ty
01:12 <luke-jr> a zone that shrinks your cycle and walls and speed
01:12 <smoothice> luke-jr: what else am I to do?
01:12 <smoothice> luke-jr: suffer under your supreme rein?
01:12 <smoothice> luke-jr: lol
01:12 <luke-jr> smoothice: wtf are you talking about?
01:12 <smoothice> luke-jr: me spreading false rumor
01:13 <luke-jr> smoothice: or you could just get a VPS next time I have a special (or before, I don't mind ☺ and experience the awesomeness for yourself XD
01:14  * luke-jr assigns cycle shrinkage to cpayan
01:14 <smoothice> luke-jr: you actually want me to switch vps providers?
01:15 <luke-jr> smoothice: eh, I wouldn't mind one bit
01:15 <luke-jr> nmap sez Zurd's IP doesn't exist :x
01:15 <smoothice> luke-jr: figured
01:15 <smoothice> justp ing it?
01:15 <luke-jr> no ping either
01:15 <smoothice> traceroute?
01:15 <luke-jr> it's like a black hole
01:16 <luke-jr> 12:  ge3-0-0-dhspca1-10k1.dc.rr.com (         69.210ms asymm 11
01:16 <luke-jr> that's the last tracepath hop
01:17 <luke-jr> what's odd is, since he got the SSH key hash, he should be able to get in…
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01:17 <luke-jr> hey, that's an idea
01:17 <luke-jr> Zurd: can you traceroute to the VPS?
01:17 <smoothice> ?
01:18 <luke-jr> and paste it on http://rafb.net/paste
01:19 <Zurd> i need to get this crap translated, its pissing me off
01:19 <smoothice> luke-jr: if you do a make install into a directory that you previously installed into, does that upgrade the binary?
01:19 <luke-jr> smoothice: the binary, yes
01:20 <luke-jr> smoothice: but there's a reason we have 'make uninstall'
01:20 <luke-jr> ☺
01:22 <Zurd> thank god...i fixed it...:D
01:22 <luke-jr> Zurd: yay
01:23 <Zurd> tracerouting nat.router.dashjr.org
01:23 <Zurd> traceroute: unknown host nat.router.dashjr.org
01:23 <luke-jr> wtf O.o
01:24 <Zurd> O.O
01:24 <luke-jr> Zurd: your DNS is broken -.-
01:24 <Zurd> maybe its not me :o
01:24 <luke-jr>
01:24 <Zurd> 1 traceroute to ( ,30 hops max,40 byte packet 2 ( 10. 0 ms 10. 0 ms 0. 0 ms 3 ( 0. 0 ms 0. 0 ms 0. 0 ms
01:24 <Zurd> :O
01:25 <luke-jr> wtf?
01:25 <luke-jr> Zurd: try with VNC
01:25 <Zurd> kk
01:25 <Zurd> connection fail
01:26 <Zurd> "1 traceroute to ( ,30 hops max,40 byte packet 2 ( 10. 0 ms 10. 0 ms 0. 0 ms 3 ( 0. 0 ms 0. 0 ms 0. 0 ms 4 ( 0. 0 ms 10. 0 ms 0. 0 ms 5 * * * * 6 * * * * 7 * * * * 8 ( 10. 0 ms 10. 0 ms 10. 0 ms 9 ( 10. 0 ms 10. 0 ms 10. 0 ms 10 ( 10. 0 ms 20. 0 m
01:26 <luke-jr> can you forward port 5900 and set a password on the VNC?
01:28 <Zurd> port range ip?
01:28 <luke-jr> ⁇?
01:28 <Zurd> nvm
01:29 <Zurd> what protical?
01:29 <luke-jr> TCP
01:30 <Zurd> end?
01:30 <Zurd> start 5900? end 5900?
01:31 <Zurd> what the command to flush my dns?
01:32 <luke-jr> ipconfig /flushdns ?
01:32 <luke-jr> maybe
01:32 <Zurd> yeah thats it
01:33 <Zurd> there is no connecting to ya...
01:34 <luke-jr> :/
01:34 <luke-jr> you forwarded the port?
01:36 <Zurd> ok...i need a friggin walk through, i dont think im doing this right, although i do..
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02:14 <luke-jr> I think zurd has at least one virus :x
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02:21 <cpayan> luke-jr, had to wait until he left to say that?
02:21 <luke-jr> well, he left as I was typign it XD
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03:01 <cpayan> anyone care to tell me what the message for my away thing was?
03:02 <cpayan> nah never mind
03:02 <madmax> x_X
03:02 <cpayan> well actually, do it, madmax
03:03  * cpayan is a bit of a will o' the wisp
03:03 <luke-jr> ?
03:03 <madmax> I didn't see any away message (thankfully)
03:03 <luke-jr> cpayan: what away thing?
03:03 <cpayan> no away thing
03:03 <cpayan> i guess
03:03 <cpayan> :)
03:04 <cpayan> I wonder what that's about
03:04 <luke-jr> /away only affects /whois, if people PM you, and for some clients the user list
03:04 <luke-jr> for example, my client greys names on the userlist who are away
03:05 <luke-jr> which is most definitely how it should be
03:05 <luke-jr> ☺
03:08  * madmax is away
03:08  * madmax is back
03:08  * madmax is away again
03:09  * luke-jr stabs madmax in the face
03:09 <madmax> hah, no one invented that yet
03:09 <luke-jr> did so! :<
03:10 <smoothice> hi luke-jr
03:10 <madmax> so you mean that guy on bash is rich now?
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03:10 <smoothice> luke-jr: for your vps service
03:10 <smoothice> luke-jr: Do you have a control panel?
03:14 <cpayan> luke-jr, ah, ok thanks
03:24 <Lucifer> #m Lackadaisical you
03:24 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
03:24 <Lucifer> hmmmm
03:24 <Lucifer> freeciv?
03:25 <smoothice> nah
03:30 <luke-jr> Lucifer: maybe
03:31 <luke-jr> actually, sure
03:31 <luke-jr> my bro in law isn't coming over this weekend
03:31 <luke-jr> he pissed everyone off last weekend :p
03:31 <Lucifer> heh
03:31 <Lucifer> anyone else?
03:32 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9149 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. language/english_base.txt src/engine/ePlayer.cpp): Luke Dashjr: merge sty-help-compat
03:34 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9150 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (9 files in 5 dirs): Luke Dashjr: merge fortress-respawn
03:35 <luke-jr> Lucifer: we playing?
03:35 <Lucifer> sure, I wanted to see if anyone else wanted to play before we got started
03:36 <luke-jr> Lucifer: u started w/o me?
03:36 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r894 merge fortress-respawn || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r893 merge sty-help-compat
03:36 <luke-jr> Lucifer: btw, you never sent me that saved game..
03:36 <Lucifer> well, I started a game to play while waiting to see if anybody wants to play :)
03:36 <luke-jr> XD
03:37 <luke-jr> fine, I do that too :p
03:37 <Lucifer> you can join that game if you want, I only just started it :)
03:37 <Lucifer> or I can kill it and we can start a new game
03:37 <luke-jr> ok
03:37 <luke-jr> I'll take over Texas
03:37 <Lucifer> do you want to play a particular map, or go with random?
03:37 <Lucifer> heh, I'm texas ;)
03:37 <luke-jr> I don't care
03:37 <luke-jr> let's start new
03:37 <luke-jr> this is turn 12 :x
03:39 <luke-jr> …
03:47 <Lucifer> anybody else want to play?
03:47 <Lucifer> I keep forgetting to send that save game, sorry :(
03:48 <luke-jr> [21:47:57] <abs> wowi just opened up the enclosure and the SATA power cables are soldered into the board
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04:08 <Lucifer> Vanhayes: freeciv?  ;)
04:09 <tramshed> hovaround
04:09 <smoothice> #zthread
04:09 <smoothice> #alias search zthread
04:09 <smoothice> wtf
04:09 <smoothice> How do I install zThread?
04:10 <smoothice> #alias list
04:10 <smoothice> #list Alias
04:10 <@armabot> smoothice: monologue, r, roulette, #lags, #noob, /me, 42, aawiki, action, add, afl, aka, armaconfig, armapwnage, armaservers, armasettings, arrow, as, away, babel, ball, bigbrother, bigos, bing, botsnack, bounce, brb, bug, bugs, bye, bzr, bzrarmasty, c, cafe, calc, cat, cfg, cfg2, chainfight, chatlog, check, cheers, cinf, cink, commands, cookie, crashme, crazylate, ctos, ctwf, dance, date, (5 more messages)
04:10 <Vanhayes> Lucifer: maybe in a little bit, who all is playing?
04:10 <smoothice> #more
04:10 <@armabot> smoothice: davestupidwebsite"rss, ddl, del, devhelp, dicht, die, die, digg, digitx, ding, disclaimer, dns, do, dofinger, dog, dong, donkey, doping, dorka, eds, eliza, emmy, epicfail, eroulette, f, fail, fart, farton, fastfood, fetch2, fight, finc, fingers, fink, flashyy, flerxytyme, flirt, fofo, forest, fortune, forums, freeciv, fuck!, g, gcalc, gfight, go, godtodd, going, goodbye, goodnight, (4 more messages)
04:10 <Lucifer> me and luke
04:10 <smoothice> #More
04:10 <@armabot> smoothice: grep, grep2, hd, hack, hell, hello, hey, hoop, hungary, hyphy, impregnate, insight, ircstats, jesus, joke, kill, killsomeone, kinc, kinf, king, kyle, kyo, laddle10, lags, lastseen, lastseenf, lastseen flexsmum, legit, lies, llog, lock, log, log, logs, lp, lpbug, ls, lukejrworks, m, mail, makeop, man, mcalc, meow!, mfaq, ming, monologue, morning, move, mrbougo, murder, myip, n00b, n9, (3 more messages)
04:10 <smoothice> #more
04:10 <@armabot> smoothice: nano, nerd, new, night, no, noob, null, nwctfs, nwers, nwfortress, obsolete, onlineplayers, onlineservers, pacman, path, path2, peek, phail, phlail, pingme, pingy, piong, plzpwn, poing, pong, praise, ptfort, pwn, q, quot, quote, r, raaaaaaape, randomnick, rape, rating, rating2, rating2test, real, realchatlogs, remove, removeop, res, resources, ring, rou, roulette, roulette, roulete, (2 more messages)
04:10 <smoothice> #more
04:10 <@armabot> smoothice: roulotte, roulï½…tte, rules, r‭oulette, say, sd, sd v spacelab, send, serv, serverdetails, serverinfo, servers, serverscores, shun, si, sillybot, sing, skank, slap, sleep10, sleep5, smoke, snap, spam, speed, spork, ss, stalk, stfu, stone, stop, sty, sumo, svn, t, tea, team, teamorder, test, test1, test123, testing, tg, thank, the, thecord, thing, toast, tooth, trunkbuilds, tst4, tst5, (1 more message)
04:10 <smoothice> #More
04:11 <@armabot> smoothice: tstservers, twg3random, ty, ubuntu, uname, unlock, ur, vanhayes, w, wanna, wannafight?, wc, weather, whatistheactivityofthischannel?, where, where are the noobs ?, whoami, whoareyou, whoisp4, wikipedia, wikipediamonkey, wild, wing, wisdom, wp, wrtlprnft, wut, ww, x, xd, yay, ying, youareanerd, youfail, ys, zomg, zomb, zomg, and ‭
04:11 <Vanhayes> Lucifer: ya ill play did you guys already start?
04:11 <Vanhayes> #vanhayes
04:11 <@armabot> eh? eh? eh? eh? eh? eh? EH?!?!?!!!!!!1111ONEONE
04:11 <Lucifer> yeah, we did
04:11 <Lucifer> www.davefancella.com port 5556 iirc
04:11 <smoothice> luke-jr: how do I install zThread
04:11 <Vanhayes> ah ok, ill join in in a bit
04:12 <smoothice> #myip
04:12 <@armabot> smoothice:
04:12 <Vanhayes> #myip
04:12 <@armabot> Vanhayes:
04:13 <Vanhayes> guess thats armabots ip
04:13 <smoothice> yep
04:13 <Vanhayes> hmm
04:13 <Vanhayes> #g 429/2
04:13 <@armabot> Vanhayes: 429 / 2 = 214.5
04:14 <Vanhayes> #g 214.5/40
04:14 <@armabot> Vanhayes: 214.5 / 40 = 5.3625
04:14 <Vanhayes> hmm id complain about that being so very small but its free money
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04:33 <smoothice> Hello Pathetique, Concord
04:33 <smoothice> Concord: when is ladle 20 again?
04:33 <Pathetique> \o Smoothice
04:33 <Concord> 5 april
04:33 <Pathetique> You wouldn't happen to speak German, now, would you?
04:33 <smoothice> Yep
04:33 <Pathetique> lawl
04:34 <smoothice> #t en de Hello
04:34 <@armabot> smoothice: Error: Babelfish has foiled our plans by changing its webpage format.
04:34 <smoothice> ...
04:34 <Pathetique> LOL
04:34 <Pathetique> btw
04:34 <smoothice> ?
04:34 <Pathetique> Hello in German/Dutch is Hallo, AFAIK.
04:35 <smoothice> german is dutch?
04:35 <smoothice> no
04:35 <Pathetique> NO
04:35 <smoothice> yea
04:35 <Pathetique> eeps capslock
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04:36 <Pathetique> so uh
04:36 <Pathetique> Do you sp33k g3rm4n?
04:36 <smoothice> bop
04:36 <smoothice> #l33t hello there
04:36 <Pathetique> fail.
04:36 <smoothice> #leet hello there
04:36 <smoothice> #help leet?
04:36 <smoothice> #WTF?
04:36 <@armabot> smoothice: Error: There is no command "leet?".
04:37 <Pathetique> #help smoothiceisanoob
04:37 <@armabot> Pathetique: Error: There is no command "smoothiceisanoob".
04:37 <Pathetique> :P
04:37 <smoothice> #help Pathetique sucks on his crap
04:37 <smoothice> OWND!
04:37 <@armabot> smoothice: Error: There is no command "pathetique sucks on his crap".
04:37 <smoothice> :(
04:37 <smoothice> fail
04:37 <smoothice> ..
04:37 <Pathetique> lolololol
04:38 <smoothice> #zthread
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04:49 <Vanhayes> Lucifer: actually im going to try and get a good nights sleep tonight, no freeciv for me
04:49 <Vanhayes> #night
04:49 <@armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
04:49 <Lucifer> ko
04:49 <Lucifer> 'night
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04:59 <luke-jr> Lucifer: jerk
05:00 <Lucifer> heh
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05:17 <smoothice> luke-jr: hi
05:18 <luke-jr> <.<
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05:22 <SoBeiT> Hey guys, quick question, i know there is a way to get a black bike and yellow tail, but is there a color combo that i can use to get a yellow bike and black tail?
05:22 <luke-jr> SoBeiT: all of that is unsupported bugs
05:23 <luke-jr> realistically, the bike and tail are always the same colour
05:23 <SoBeiT> ... that didn't answer my question.
05:24 <SoBeiT> "realistically" i can see two different bike colors if a color is above 15
05:24 <luke-jr> SoBeiT: that's a bug
05:25 <luke-jr> because the colour can't be above 15 really
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05:26 <SoBeiT> that sucks, i thought the devs did that on purpose.  maybe it should be supported so we can customize our bikes a little more.  thanks anyway luke-jr
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05:29 <luke-jr> …
05:35 <joda_bot> luke-jr: still awake ... what time is it for you ?
05:39 <luke-jr> 11:40 PM
05:44 <smoothice> wewt wewt
05:45 <luke-jr> ?
05:45 <luke-jr> ok look
05:45 <luke-jr> guys
05:45 <luke-jr> stop pinging me if you have nothing to say
05:45 <luke-jr> -.-
05:51 <luke-jr> trollfest in #Jesus if anyone wants to join
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06:01 <joda_bot> sorry, l u k e - j r
06:03 <luke-jr> -.-
06:10 <teabot> xclanaarepo: Added official ladle 18 settings <http://xclan.armagetron.co.uk/resource/revision/epsy46@free.fr-20090205123500-330pn75la79bb3yg> || Added CrAsHeD@durkadurkaland.com/SumoDf-3.aamap.xml <http://xclan.armagetron.co.uk/resource/revision/epsy46@free.fr-20090129025437-w6peb7vq1zqzdkrh> || add GLOBAL_ID to the config <http://xclan.armagetron.co.uk/resource/revision/epsy46@free.fr-20081121211113-duindfsp5epr8ool> || official config <http://xcla
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06:13 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r894 merge fortress-respawn || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r893 merge sty-help-compat || [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r663 merge from 0.2.8-sty (and make conflicted regions more merga... || [armagetronad-v2sty] r889 Scoring now works properly || [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r662 merging with 0.2.8 r1098 || [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] merge from 0.2.8 || [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r662 merge from 
06:13 <@armabot> lpbugs: [341875] Pigsty shots kill players even when they are just spawning and are "invincible". <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/341875> || [341491] armagetronad.real crashed with SIGSEGV - Reset screen resolution <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/341491> || [338969] /commands do not work when hosting a lan game <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/338969> || [337193] Locked teams with only AIs <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/337193>
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07:13 <Lucifer> luke-jr: sorry, now I'm really bored with this game :(
07:15 <luke-jr> Lucifer: me too!
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07:44  * joda_bot wonders what game is boring :-)
07:58 <tramshed> all of tem
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09:55 <teabot> tstnews: akruD & droLegaS win the TST 2009.01 <http://tst.armagetron.co.uk/news/akrud-drolegas-win-the-tst-200901/> || Final challenge board up <http://tst.armagetron.co.uk/news/final-challenge-board-up/> || Registration is now open <http://tst.armagetron.co.uk/news/registration-is-now-open/> || TST 2009.01 <http://tst.armagetron.co.uk/news/tst-200901/> || DurkLord & SageKa win the TST 2008.11 <http://tst.armagetron.co.uk/news/durklord-sageka-win-the
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12:44 <Concord> emmy_arma: would you kindly tell CTxGonzap, that I'm available for his challenge (open sumo is full)
12:45 <emmy_arma> ok
12:45 <Concord> thanx
12:46 <emmy_arma> catfight is down
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12:50 <Concord> ah ok
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13:03 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/VOV/race/Shield-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by VOV
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14:06 <epsy> mm, how would I go about chaging my mouse sensivity ?
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14:31 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r9151 /armagetronad/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
14:31 <@armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 9143 to 9148:
14:31 <@armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
14:31 <@armabot> armagetronad:  r9146 | bazaarmagetron | 2009-03-12 12:08:13 +0100 (Thu, 12 Mar 2009) | 2 lines
14:31 <@armabot> armagetronad:  Manuel Moos: Fixed sound muting when switching sound settings.
14:31 <@armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
14:31 <@armabot> armagetronad:  r9145 | bazaarmagetron | 2009-03-12 12:07:06 +0100 (Thu, 12 Mar 2009) | 5 lines
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14:34 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9152 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. NEWS): Manuel Moos: Updated for beta3.
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14:54 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r9153 /armagetronad/tags/ Tagged
14:57 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/VOV/race/Insane-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by VOV
15:02 <smoothice> z-manuel: beta3 released today?
15:02 <smoothice> #cfg2 ladderlog_write_round_winner
15:02 <@armabot> smoothice: LADDERLOG_WRITE_ROUND_WINNER: Write to ladderlog: ROUND_WINNER (Default: 1 )
15:03 <z-manuel> looks like it.
15:04 <smoothice> z-manuel: how many betas before release?
15:04 <smoothice> #cfg2 ladderlog_write_round_score
15:04 <@armabot> smoothice: LADDERLOG_WRITE_ROUND_SCORE: Write to ladderlog: ROUND_SCORE [](Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_ROUND_SCORE_TEAM: Write to ladderlog: ROUND_SCORE_TEAM (Default: 1 )
15:05 <smoothice> #ladderlog_write_death_frag
15:05 <smoothice> #cfg2 ladderlog_write_death_frag
15:05 <@armabot> smoothice: LADDERLOG_WRITE_DEATH_FRAG: Write to ladderlog: DEATH_FRAG (Default: 1 )
15:06 <z-manuel> smoothice: as many as it takes to get rid of the important bugs.
15:06 <z-manuel> all the known ones are none now, so MAYBE this will be the last beta.
15:06 <smoothice> alright
15:06 <smoothice> I'm really eager to use something other as as my main client
15:06 <smoothice> than*
15:07 <smoothice> and I think most people are too
15:14 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r895 Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 9143 to 9148:... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1099 Updated for beta3....
15:16 <epsy> were the weird crashes 5on windows ?° fixed?
15:16 <epsy> oh dear
15:16 <epsy> 5 -> (
15:16 <epsy> ° -> )
15:17 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r9154 /armagetronad/trunk/ (. armagetronad/NEWS):
15:17 <@armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 9148 to 9152:
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15:17 <@armabot> armagetronad:  r9152 | bazaarmagetron | 2009-03-14 14:34:20 +0100 (Sat, 14 Mar 2009) | 2 lines
15:17 <@armabot> armagetronad:  Manuel Moos: Updated for beta3.
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15:24 <guru3> anyone about?
15:26 <smoothice> guru3: hi
15:34 <guru3> http://forums.armagetronad.net/download.php?id=9958
15:35 <smoothice> guru3: can we try it out?
15:35 <guru3> not really no
15:36 <smoothice> awww
15:36 <smoothice> fine :D
15:36 <guru3> it's only on my desktop
15:36 <smoothice> local server instance?
15:36 <guru3> yes
15:37 <smoothice> ooo k
15:38 <guru3> don't really have the bandwith here
15:38 <guru3> to be hosting it for others to use
15:38 <guru3> http://forums.armagetronad.net/download.php?id=9959
15:39 <smoothice> I mean more like
15:39 <smoothice> upgrading the main server
15:39 <smoothice> for it :D
15:39 <guru3> well i'll consider it
15:39 <smoothice> k
15:40 <guru3> the forums would go offline for quite a while is the thing
15:40 <guru3> so i can't do it with no warning
15:40 <smoothice> yeah
15:42 <guru3> but it hasn't been too bad getting it converted to phpbb3
15:43 <guru3> didn't have to do much from scratch
15:47 <smoothice> guru3: it seems like you wouldn't have to take the forums offline that long since you just you didn't have to do much from scratch
15:48 <guru3> only you know, convert from phpbb2 to phpbb3
15:48 <smoothice> guru3: to make the process easier, you could use lighttpd and set the whole thing up on both of the servers and then just switch the port
15:48 <guru3> which ive only done once
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16:14 <luke-jr> smoothice: uh, wtf?
16:15 <luke-jr> Apache can do that just as well as lighttpd
16:15 <luke-jr> the problem is freezing the DB so people don't post while he converts
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16:19 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r896 Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 9148 to 9152:...
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17:24 <smoothice> luke-jr: you could make the DB read-only
17:24 <luke-jr> smoothice: I suppose
17:24 <luke-jr> but I doubt phpBB works with that
17:24 <luke-jr> it needs to modify the db to login or read posts
17:24 <smoothice> to login?
17:24 <smoothice> oh
17:24 <smoothice> last visit..
17:25 <luke-jr> and view count
17:25 <luke-jr> and session list
17:25 <smoothice> ack
17:25 <smoothice> acK!
17:25 <smoothice> lol
17:25 <smoothice> bigger project than Ithought lol
17:26 <luke-jr> besides, even read-only would need prior scheduling
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17:31 <guru3> 3/14 is national pi day
17:31 <guru3> lols
17:32 <luke-jr> no
17:32 <luke-jr> pi day is March 4
17:33 <guru3> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10194354-38.html?tag=nl.e703
17:34 <luke-jr> wow
17:34 <luke-jr> idiots
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17:39 <smoothice> luke-jr: it's 3/14 -.-
17:39 <luke-jr> smoothice: no, it's not
17:39 <luke-jr> pi is 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419………….
17:39 <smoothice> 3/4 ≠ 3.14
17:40 <luke-jr> March 4th is .1415926… into March
17:40 <smoothice> how is it march 4th then
17:40  * wrtlprnft likes π approximation day on july 22 more…
17:40 <smoothice> ...
17:40 <luke-jr> March has 31 days
17:40 <luke-jr> 31 * .1415926535 == 4.3893722585
17:40 <smoothice> 4.3
17:41 <smoothice> well aren't you cool :P
17:41 <wrtlprnft> #g abs(pi - 22/7)/pi
17:41 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
17:41 <wrtlprnft> #g (pi - 22/7)/pi
17:41 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: (pi - (22 / 7)) / pi = -0.000402499435
17:41 <wrtlprnft> #g (pi - 3.14)/pi
17:41 <smoothice> #g 31 * .1415926535
17:41 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: (pi - 3.14) / pi = 0.000506957383
17:41 <@armabot> smoothice: 31 * .1415926535 = 4.38937226
17:42 <wrtlprnft> #g (pi - (3+4/31))/pi
17:42 <smoothice> so folks
17:42 <smoothice> wassup?
17:42 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: (pi - (3 + (4 / 31))) / pi = 0.00399809807
17:42 <wrtlprnft> see? 22/7 is better than all that other crap :-)
17:42 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: 22/7 isn't better than my pi approximation
17:43 <wrtlprnft> 0.00399809807 > 0.000402499435
17:43 <luke-jr> 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419713
17:43 <smoothice> I know 50 digits in my head
17:43 <luke-jr> that's pi as I have it memorized
17:43 <smoothice> beat THAT!
17:43 <wrtlprnft> incoded into a date, of course.
17:43 <wrtlprnft> get a life, guys
17:43 <luke-jr> lol
17:43 <smoothice> ?
17:43 <smoothice> where can I download one of those
17:43 <luke-jr> download what?
17:43 <smoothice> a life
17:44 <luke-jr> o
17:44 <luke-jr> gl
17:44 <wrtlprnft> http://live.com
17:44  * wrtlprnft hides
17:44 <smoothice> ARGGGGGGG
17:44  * smoothice chases wrtlprnft
17:44  * luke-jr goes wrtlprnft hunting
17:44 <smoothice> lol
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17:48  * wrtlprnft can't believe he's forced to download an illegal copy of vc6 to compile an open source project for windows :x
17:48 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: don't do that! :o
17:49 <smoothice> what is vc6?
17:49 <wrtlprnft> visual c
17:49 <wrtlprnft> actually c++
17:49 <smoothice> well
17:49 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: you know you can't distribute the binary? ;)
17:49 <smoothice> you can download the free working model edition
17:49 <smoothice> but you cannot make exes
17:49 <smoothice> which I guess makes it pointless
17:49 <smoothice> lol
17:49 <wrtlprnft> yeah, that's pointless
17:50 <luke-jr> …
17:50 <smoothice> ?
17:50 <wrtlprnft> i can use the free 2008 stuff, but i can't get it to work correctly
17:50 <smoothice> that's .net
17:51 <luke-jr> for Windows binaries, the GPL defines the compiler as part of the build system ;)
17:51 <luke-jr> which means your source code must include the compiler
17:52 <wrtlprnft> well, all the windows binaries of that project are made iwth vc6
17:52 <smoothice> port them to .net?
17:52 <luke-jr> so it's either GPL violation or GPL exception
17:53 <luke-jr> why port to .net?
17:53 <luke-jr> port to MingW
17:53 <wrtlprnft> do i look like a windows a windows dev?
17:53 <smoothice> yes
17:53 <smoothice> lol
17:53 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: you're the one talking about VC6 and Windoze stuff
17:53 <luke-jr> I do all my development on Linux
17:54 <luke-jr> including making EXEs and Windows installers
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17:54 <smoothice> ?
17:54 <smoothice> Wine?
17:54 <luke-jr> smoothice: no
17:54 <luke-jr> I just cross-compile
17:54 <luke-jr> and NSIS has a Linux port
17:55 <luke-jr> though I admit there was one project for work that I had to use VB6 /compile in WINE to build
17:55 <luke-jr> but I rewrote it in C first chance I got
18:10 <epsy> Lackadaisical, these shots are just sketches done in gimp/inkscape right?
18:11 <Lackadaisical> yeah, did them in photoshop
18:11 <epsy> mm heretism
18:11 <Lackadaisical> heh
18:11 <epsy> it4s way simplier than anything I4ve thought of
18:11 <guru3> they look good
18:11 <epsy> yet it looks good
18:11 <epsy> brbb
18:11 <Lackadaisical> thanks
18:12 <guru3> i don't envy whoever wants to build them into themes though
18:12 <guru3> that sort of work is tricky
18:12 <epsy> nah
18:13 <epsy> depends on the software to theme
18:13 <epsy> that's why I hate phpbb so much
18:13 <epsy> brb
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18:14 <epsy> right, that's better
18:14 <guru3> i'm thinking to go ahead and upgrade to phpbb3
18:14 <Lackadaisical> but i just received a msg from luci/armabot that im actually the dedicated webguy that was picked up
18:14 <Lackadaisical> I.. didn't know that?
18:15 <Lackadaisical> can I even do anything with the website?
18:15 <guru3> probably... not
18:15 <epsy> guru3, please, consider bbpress
18:16 <guru3> i'm not being impressed with it
18:16 <epsy> have you tried to theme it?
18:16 <guru3> no
18:16 <guru3> but ive just tried to use it
18:17 <epsy> and?
18:17 <guru3> im not thrilled
18:17 <luke-jr> reminder: I did a little experiment with MediaWiki for the main website a while back
18:18 <epsy> guru3, it's just a forum software heh
18:18 <guru3> and for being a forum software
18:18 <guru3> im not thrilled
18:18 <epsy> even if I tell you mods don't break on upgrades?
18:19 <guru3> the technical benefits are minor
18:19 <guru3> because i'm not spending most of the time maintaining it, i'm spending it using it
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18:19 <epsy> it's adminning functions are rather simple to use
18:20 <luke-jr> epsy: he just said that stuff doesn't matter -.-
18:20 <epsy> well, the other part of "using" it is just reading posts and responding to them
18:21 <guru3> with the reply button all the way at the bottom?
18:21 <guru3> no paging that i could see
18:21 <wrtlprnft> woot!
18:21 <wrtlprnft> no paging!
18:21 <wrtlprnft> gogogo!
18:21 <guru3> no place for the quote/edit button
18:22 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/BigTronDaddy/Race/aMazed-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by BigTronDaddy
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18:27 <epsy> it has paging
18:27 <epsy> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/wordpress-and-bbpress-integration-101
18:28 <epsy> there's an edit function afaik, and it can be limited on a certain amount of time
18:28 <epsy> for the quote button, either you should be logged in, either it's probably available as a plugin
18:30 <epsy> oh, and on top of that, there's an antispam plguin :)
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18:49 <luke-jr> what's wrong with phpBB3 anyhow?
18:50 <zmanuel> The default answer to all your 'what's wrong' questions: it would be work.
18:50 <epsy> and it is :/
18:51 <epsy> what will we do when we get up to GID-based authentication?
18:52 <luke-jr> zmanuel: afaik, guru3's ready to do phpBB3 and epsy interjected some bbpress thing that apparently sucks and I've never heard of ☺
18:53 <epsy> well, it's gonna suck when we HAVE to mod it
18:53 <guru3> ive more or less worked out how to do the phpbb3 conversion
18:53 <luke-jr> epsy: we don't have to mod it
18:53 <guru3> Lackadaisical: what was the font you used for the normal text on that mockup?
18:54 <epsy> luke-jr, because GID-based authentication works right out of the box with pbpbb3, and because it's supereasy to theme while keeping content separated from form
18:55 <luke-jr> epsy: phpbb3 is afaik designed to support external auth
18:55 <luke-jr> (if not, phpbb authors are idiots)
18:55 <epsy> have fun
19:09 <wrtlprnft> woot
19:09 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: got around any vc
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19:10 <wrtlprnft> i only needed to compile a dll (as a plugin), and since i didn't manage to compile the entire project with any vc i just used codeblocks to make a new project for the dll
19:10 <wrtlprnft> quite hacky (in fact really hacky, but it works)
19:12 <wrtlprnft> btw, dokan+tortoisesvn+browsing a remote svn repo = really really really slow
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19:18 <luke-jr> vc?
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19:20 <Lackadaisical> guru3: arial
19:20 <Lackadaisical> i was thinking of just putting sans-serif in the css, so that would mean arial on windows
19:20 <guru3> cheers
19:21 <Lackadaisical> i'd prefer helvetica though
19:25 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: vc == visual c :o
19:33 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r934 Merge from trunk...
19:36 <cpayan> Lackadaisical, Helvetica's great :)
19:37  * wrtlprnft wouldn't want to read the body text of a web page in helevetica
19:37 <cpayan> Why not just use font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; and be done
19:38  * wrtlprnft is still looking for the just-kill-heveletica-arial-and-friends-and-just-use-the-sans-serif-font-i-configured setting
19:40 <wrtlprnft> maybe i should look into ways to make opera believe those fonts don't exist on my system. that would solve a lot.
19:40 <Lackadaisical> there's no setting for that in opera? i think you can set it in firefox
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19:41 <wrtlprnft> Lackadaisical: you can say what you want sans-serif to map to
19:41 <wrtlprnft> but i haven't seen a font blacklist yet.
19:42 <cpayan> you could just get rid of the fonts.
19:42 <luke-jr> cpayan: why not just font-family:sans-serif; ?
19:43 <wrtlprnft> well, sometimes i may want them. mostly for openoffice, when i either have to make documents that are going to be used on machines whose fontsets i don't control or to reduce alignment errors for badly written documents that use those fonts
19:43  * wrtlprnft agrees with luke-jr 
19:43 <cpayan> If I'm designing, I'd rather see the fonts I choose show up. Things can look wonky otherwise.
19:44 <luke-jr> cpayan: if things look wonky, you're doing it wrong
19:44 <wrtlprnft> well, for body text the exact font shouldn't matter for webdesign purposes, so just give the user control over it
19:45 <luke-jr> if you do it right, it shouldn't matter what exact font I'm using, how big my browser is, or if I'm using a braille display or screen reader
19:45 <cpayan> Also, at the end of the day, the vast majority of users take no part in font-selection, so why leave it to a generally apathetic group
19:45 <cpayan> luke-jr, that is aside from a discussion of fonts
19:45 <wrtlprnft> let's just say the default settings of most browsers disagree with most designers' imaginations
19:45 <luke-jr> cpayan: no it isn't
19:45 <wrtlprnft> too big, too boring, not special enough :-(
19:45 <cpayan> Yes. It is. Completely
19:46 <cpayan> Using CSS for fonts doesn't affect usability one whit.
19:46 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: user.css should be able to replace Arial with sans-serif;
19:46 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: how?
19:46 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: @font-*?
19:47 <epsy> luke-jr, lol?!
19:47 <cpayan> wrtlprnft, let's say default settings on most browsers change from browser to browser, then there's no problem, in my mind, in trying to make a consistent site across platforms and browsers
19:47 <epsy> I mean, it's a nice thing..but..no browser supports it
19:47 <wrtlprnft> hmm, that might indeed be interesting, redefining the arial @font-face
19:47 <luke-jr> epsy: I work in theory, not in practice
19:48 <luke-jr> cpayan: that is where you fail
19:48 <epsy> ah
19:48 <wrtlprnft> cpayan: web sites aren't supposed to look pixel-identical on any two computers
19:48 <luke-jr> cpayan: a site should fit in with the user's computer, not with the designer's computer
19:48 <epsy> y the way, if you want to render custom fonts: http://typeface.neocracy.org/
19:49 <cpayan> That's right, but you're both taking it to a ridiculous ideal
19:49 <luke-jr> cpayan: I'm an idealist, get used to it.
19:49 <cpayan> luke-jr, I'm not, get used to it :)
19:50 <cpayan> Also, get used to idealism having very little place in the world :)
19:51 <wrtlprnft> i don't think it's idealistic if i don't want to see a different crappy aeons-old font on every website but rather the font i'm used to (and can therefore read best)
19:53 <cpayan> Aeons-old fonts are aeons old because they're good, readable fonts. Are you really so attached to your chosen font that using a different still-decent font is that deplorable to you? Actually, drop that, it's a two-way argument, obviously.
19:53 <cpayan> Just seems like a waste of time to me to fix something that isn't broken in the least.
19:54 <wrtlprnft> well, arial isn't really all that good, it's just been bundled with windows for a long time
19:55 <luke-jr> Arial is non-Free
19:55 <dlh> and it is a rip-off of helvetica :)
19:55 <wrtlprnft> yep
19:57 <ivantis> hey luke-jr
19:57 <luke-jr> -.-
19:57 <luke-jr> what ivantis
19:57 <ivantis> you live in omaha right?
19:58 <luke-jr> yes
19:58 <ivantis> i spent the night there
19:58 <luke-jr> …
19:58 <ivantis> i went to the air and space museum thing
19:58 <luke-jr> o
19:58 <ivantis> have you ever been there?
19:58 <luke-jr> you drove 4 hours each way to spend a few hours here?
19:58 <luke-jr> what a waste of time
19:58 <guru3> http://guru3.net/temp/lack3/ boredom is evil
19:59 <ivantis> but i got to sleep inside the museum!
19:59 <luke-jr> guru3: eh, nice, but I have to scroll down to see the first reply?
19:59 <luke-jr> ivantis: still
19:59 <guru3> all i did was take the png and make it html
19:59 <ivantis> yeah the car ride was booring
19:59 <luke-jr> you probably spent more time on the road than awake in Omaha
20:00 <luke-jr> guru3: too much void space IMO
20:00 <ivantis> well, we left at 3:00
20:00 <guru3> luke-jr: tell lack
20:00 <guru3> it's his design
20:00 <wrtlprnft> guru3: eww, fixed width :(
20:00 <ivantis> went to bed at 0:00
20:00 <guru3> yeah that i didn't feel like working around
20:00 <ivantis> and woke up at 7:00
20:00 <ivantis> and left at 8:00
20:00 <luke-jr> ivantis: that makes no sense, it's not even 3:00 yet
20:00 <ivantis> no yesterday
20:01 <ivantis> i mean 15:00
20:01 <luke-jr> whatever
20:01 <wrtlprnft> guru3: at least the design itself is capable of dynamic width
20:01 <guru3> yeah
20:01 <ivantis> but it was cool. that museum is cool
20:01 <guru3> i would have basically just needed to fiddle with the header
20:01 <guru3> didn't feel like it
20:01 <wrtlprnft> well, it's just a test, so it's ok
20:01 <ivantis> guess what else?
20:01 <luke-jr> where's the png?
20:02 <guru3> the modest proposal thread
20:02 <wrtlprnft> i'm just saying that for the final version it would be next to mandatory
20:02 <ivantis> i wrote something for a commercial site
20:02 <ivantis> http://keywordvideogenerator.com/
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20:03 <guru3> turning pictures into html is such a fun chalenge
20:03 <guru3> *challenge
20:04 <luke-jr> it wouldn't be so bad if the top menu stuff went across the page fully
20:04 <luke-jr> eg, FAQ, View posts since…, Search, Profile on one line
20:04 <luke-jr> or however many fit
20:04 <guru3> turn it into 4x2 instead of 2x4
20:04 <guru3> that'd just fit
20:04 <luke-jr> no, make it dynamic like it should be
20:04 <wrtlprnft> or dynamic :-)
20:05 <guru3> i don't think you can make tables dynamic like that
20:05 <luke-jr> haven't looked at the HTML, but that *should be* a <ul><li>…</ul>
20:05 <guru3> nope, i went the poorman easy way
20:05 <luke-jr> guru3: it shouldn't be a table
20:05 <wrtlprnft> guru3: well, you can just make them wrap
20:05 <luke-jr> that's table abuse
20:05 <wrtlprnft> it won't be a rectangle, but i guess that's fine for this purpose
20:06 <wrtlprnft> if you feel really fancy you can add an optional javascript that looks at how much fits into a row and then sets the line breaks accordingly
20:06 <guru3> well as it's html, it's open source ;)
20:07 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: one thing, though: you can't really argue with screenreaders for a website exclusively related to a visual game
20:07 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: what if I want to use the forums from my rotary phone⁈
20:08 <wrtlprnft> don't :-P
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20:10 <luke-jr> hi gene
20:10 <compguygene> just a quick question about the trunk series
20:10 <compguygene> hi
20:10 <luke-jr> aww, you won't stick around? :o
20:11 <compguygene> i am going to put up a fortress trunk server
20:11 <compguygene> i may
20:11 <compguygene> is the .3 branch the current branch that ur running luke?
20:11 <luke-jr> compguygene: am I still running that? XD
20:11 <luke-jr> there is no .3 branch, it's trunk
20:12 <luke-jr> if my zv2 test is still running, it's an old branch
20:12 <luke-jr> everything from it should be merged to trunk tho
20:12 <luke-jr> heck, we have parts of sty in trunk now
20:12 <luke-jr> might be fun to try fortress with respawning XD
20:12 <compguygene> really...saw the server that ct brought up
20:13 <compguygene> i have thought about that as a trainer
20:13 <luke-jr> compguygene: I'm rewriting soccer now
20:13 <luke-jr> smoothice over there is fiddling with flags
20:13 <compguygene> would be good for the newer people to fortress in my clan
20:13 <compguygene> ahh..saw teh flags in the fortress...kewl
20:14 <luke-jr> compguygene: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+spec/sty
20:14 <guru3> oh well time for dinner, bbl
20:14 <compguygene> ty
20:14  * luke-jr updates the status
20:15 <compguygene> kewl
20:15 <compguygene> u luv the alpha client
20:15 <luke-jr> O.o?
20:15 <compguygene> it is worth the occaisional video driver crash
20:15 <luke-jr> I sit on the edge on the clients ☺
20:15 <luke-jr> trunk is nice, but kills my FPS
20:15 <compguygene> i run the latest trunk client on a vista 64 install
20:16 <luke-jr> we support Vista? XD
20:16 <compguygene> it's just plain fun
20:16 <luke-jr> and I think you mean an old alpha ;)
20:16 <luke-jr> unless you managed to compile trunk yourself on Windows
20:16 <luke-jr> in which case please post teh builds on the aabeta site
20:17 <compguygene> no, it's the last one z-man posted
20:17 <compguygene> earlier this year
20:17 <luke-jr> I didn't realize we even had a Win64 bild
20:17 <luke-jr> build
20:17 <compguygene> it's not
20:17 <luke-jr> compguygene: that one's old, and doesn't support (modern) zones v2
20:18 <compguygene> not the one thats 2 years old...he built one about 2 months ago
20:18 <luke-jr> in fact, the entire game protocol is changed since that one
20:18 <luke-jr> yeah
20:18 <luke-jr> the whole protocol was rewritten about a week after that :p
20:18 <compguygene> ha.....
20:19 <luke-jr> with backward compatibility for 0.2.8
20:19 <compguygene> maybe i will figure out how to do my own build and post it...
20:19 <luke-jr> but not for 0.3.0 or your build
20:19 <luke-jr> ;)
20:19 <compguygene> kinda busy right now
20:19 <compguygene> i got a second VPS based in germany
20:19 <luke-jr> :o
20:19 <compguygene> so i can run a tourney entirely on my own..
20:20 <luke-jr> XD
20:20 <luke-jr> I wonder why we don't have any asian players
20:20 <compguygene> no offence...it was a unique value
20:20 <luke-jr> isn't gaming supposed to be popular there?
20:20 <luke-jr> compguygene: I don't have Europe VPS yet
20:20 <compguygene> i thought you had a uk vps?
20:20 <luke-jr> I have UK Arma hosting
20:20 <compguygene> np
20:20 <luke-jr> but not UK VPS hosting
20:20 <compguygene> ahh
20:21 <compguygene> i guess i did kind of push the envelope for you with the CT location on that
20:21 <luke-jr> compguygene: hosteurope.de, btw?
20:21 <compguygene> not inter.net
20:21 <compguygene> they had a really unique low end value
20:21 <luke-jr> hm
20:22 <compguygene> i'll email you details if your curious
20:22 <luke-jr> well, I'm lookign for a dedi ☺
20:22 <compguygene> for $12 a month i have enough power for my needs.
20:22 <compguygene> i think they offer that as well
20:23 <luke-jr> hm, not finding any info on the site
20:25 <compguygene> ok..quick check...no dedicated...
20:25 <compguygene> ddd
20:25 <compguygene> sss
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20:26 <compguygene> quick check on the web...no dedicated service
20:26 <luke-jr> oh well
20:26 <compguygene> but if i run accross a deal..i will let you know...people sometimes email me stuff
20:27 <compguygene> this provider targets the SOHO market with VPS/shared services
20:27 <luke-jr> i c
20:27 <compguygene> well..i really should do some housework..
20:28 <compguygene> nice to talk with you luke..ty for the explanation of the trunk
20:28 <luke-jr> np
20:28 <compguygene> i wondered why my client didn't seem to be show all this kewl zones v2 stuff
20:28 <compguygene> c u later
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20:36 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-zone-bouncing] r897 /OnCollision; noop /zZoneInfluenceItemBounc...
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20:45 <ivantis> noop
20:45 <ivantis> ؟
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20:45 <ivantis> what does noop mean ؟
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20:46 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r9155 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases.php: Added
20:46 <@armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
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21:15 <luke-jr> ivantis: noop is common computer terminology, idiot
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21:22 <sinewave> Concord: : how do you rock so hard? :P
21:22 <Concord> excuse me?
21:22 <sinewave> just messin with ya
21:22 <dlh> z-man: can you do a grep of your Bugfarm Sumo logfiles for "Spam prefix found"?
21:23 <Concord> kk ;)
21:23 <z-man> oh, right. sorry. forgot about that. Will do in a minute.
21:24 <z-man> Nothing found.
21:25 <z-man> There wasn't a lot of activity.
21:25 <dlh> ah
21:27 <z-man> But at least we know there were no false positives :)
21:28 <dlh> Indeed :)
21:35 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Blaze/Race/Nova-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Blaze
21:49 <madmax> café anyone?
21:53 <madmax> #tea
21:53 <@armabot> madmax: Fortress Café: Players (4/32): Ct_Concord, madmax, MobiusPoint, nara
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22:40 <@armabot> armagetronad: guru3 * r9156 /www/mainsite/ (archive.php index.php): is out
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22:46 <luke-jr> O.o
22:46 <luke-jr> is aabeta up? ☺
22:46 <luke-jr> for you IPv4 people I mean
22:47 <luke-jr> guru3: if you're going to use the lame 3/14 notation, at least use it completely: 3/14/2009 :p
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22:48 <luke-jr> ]later tell *z*man* what happened to the automated build upload script?
22:48 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
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22:49 <luke-jr> zmanuel: u has a msg
22:50 <luke-jr> btw, isn't it time to move to a RC? :p
22:50 <luke-jr> that's what the changelog seems to describe to me, anyhow
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22:51 <animuson> why is beta.armagetronad.net down?
22:51 <luke-jr> animuson: I just asked if it was and nobody answered.
22:51 <zmanuel> There were too many changes since beta2 to call it a RC.
22:52 <luke-jr> the simple answer is house cleaning ☺
22:52 <animuson> :P
22:52 <luke-jr> I wanted to reorganize the cable coax
22:52 <luke-jr> <.<
22:52 <zmanuel> And the automatic build script is still there and working fine :)
22:52 <animuson> when will it be back up? ^_^
22:52 <luke-jr> zmanuel: so why is it a pain?
22:52 <zmanuel> The main problem is the time the upload takes.
22:52 <luke-jr> animuson: well, it was never down on IPv6 ;)
22:53 <zmanuel> THe other services are way more annoying, though.
22:53 <luke-jr> zmanuel: oh, should be simple to have aabeta fetch from LP/SF
22:53 <zmanuel> For lack of automation possibility :)
22:53 <luke-jr> hm
22:54 <luke-jr> animuson: when I figure out the problem
22:54  * luke-jr reboots the modem
22:54 <luke-jr> … ACQ DS indicates we're RF return
22:55 <luke-jr> $$MCNS_STARTUP_COMPLETE$$
22:55 <luke-jr> yay
22:55 <luke-jr> IP will probably change tho
22:55 <luke-jr> DNS propagation :x
22:55 <luke-jr> zmanuel: expect a lot of "I hate AAbeta cuz it's down when u release beta3"
22:55 <luke-jr> :/
22:55 <zmanuel> Actually, it's leading so far.
22:56 <zmanuel> One vote against 0 :)
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22:56 <luke-jr> zmanuel: cuz I'm the only voter so far
22:56 <zmanuel> thought so ;)
22:56 <luke-jr> animuson: is it working by any chance?
22:57 <zmanuel> It's working for me now.
22:57 <luke-jr> good
22:57 <luke-jr> I manually added my old IP <.<
22:57 <luke-jr> yay for stupid standards like DOCSIS :D
22:59 <smoothice> aabeta is down guys
22:59 <luke-jr> …
22:59  * luke-jr smacks smoothice
22:59 <smoothice> the IP
22:59 <smoothice> that it points you
22:59 <smoothice> isn't responding
22:59 <smoothice> to*
22:59 <luke-jr> smoothice: RTFC
22:59 <smoothice> hah
22:59 <smoothice> I love reading logs
22:59 <smoothice> :P
22:59 <smoothice> #slap smoothice
22:59 <@armabot> smoothice slaps smoothice for being a raving moron.
23:00 <luke-jr> I wish I could automate DNS updates easier
23:00 <luke-jr> I still need to update my nameserver registration and levopede-uk's master IP
23:00 <smoothice> or
23:00 <smoothice> set your ttl really low
23:01 <smoothice> ~60
23:01 <luke-jr> smoothice: nameservers have a fixed high TTL
23:01 <smoothice> 86400?
23:01 <luke-jr> yeah
23:02 <luke-jr> yeah
23:02 <luke-jr> oops
23:03 <smoothice> lol
23:03 <luke-jr> smoothice: btw, was it really not workign when you said that?
23:03 <smoothice> yes
23:03 <smoothice> it really wasn't
23:03 <luke-jr> I thought I had it working ~90 seconds before
23:03 <smoothice> Still not for me
23:03 <smoothice> I'll flush out my cache
23:03 <smoothice> but yeah
23:04 <smoothice> nope
23:04 <smoothice> no work after dns flush
23:04 <luke-jr> doh
23:04 <luke-jr> did I just give it the wrong IP? XD
23:04 <smoothice> did you?
23:05 <smoothice> for me
23:05 <smoothice> I'm getting from dns ^
23:05 <luke-jr> meh I did
23:05 <smoothice> ...
23:05 <smoothice> hachi.dashjr.org (
23:05 <smoothice> 2 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet los
23:05 <smoothice> lol
23:05 <luke-jr> flush cache again
23:05 <smoothice> k
23:06 <animuson> its back up yay
23:06 <smoothice> my dns is still reporting
23:07 <animuson> well ur dns sux :P
23:07 <smoothice> http://www.grabup.com/uploads/a0b994be31c33af62966b73855a66129.png?direct
23:07 <luke-jr> f u animuson
23:07 <luke-jr> o
23:07 <luke-jr> smoothice's DNS
23:07 <luke-jr> I have TTL of like 300
23:07 <luke-jr> and everydns only updates once an hour I think
23:08 <smoothice> I'm forcing opendns to refresh its cache
23:08 <smoothice> should get to me eventually
23:09 <smoothice> Hachi is a Dell PowerEdge 6400 with dual Xeon processors clocked at 550 MHz with 1024 KB caches each. He has 2 GB of "real" RAM and 1 GB of virtual memory (swap).
23:09 <smoothice> that's cool
23:10 <smoothice> ok
23:10 <smoothice> aabeta back up for me
23:10 <smoothice> hachi.dashjr.org (
23:13 <luke-jr> k
23:13 <luke-jr> back to reorganziing then
23:15 <luke-jr> if it goes down again, call me
23:15 <luke-jr> :p
23:15 <luke-jr> 402-218-1954
23:15 <Concord> #si cafe
23:15 <smoothice> luke-jr: lol...
23:15 <@armabot> Concord: Fortress Café: Players (14/32): Bah, bugra, Ct_Concord, Guybrush, King Smurf, MobiusPoint, Player 1, Player 1.4, Player 2, Smurf #365, the gay smurf, `WwRudycantfail, ~|DS|~zion, ¦×¦ PlayerNuby (PlayerNub@x/member)
23:15 <Concord> :D
23:17 <smoothice> Concord: lol...
23:18 <Concord> :D
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23:23 <ivantis> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IBhJ6x2Erwk/SKIzB0qVEaI/AAAAAAAAA8I/WwWkLGVNm-o/s1600-h/hilarious-1.jpg
23:23 <ivantis> like it says, hilarious
23:23 <smoothice> ivantis: -.-
23:23 <smoothice> dammit
23:23 <smoothice> porn
23:23 <ivantis> scroll down fool
23:23 <smoothice> I actually reset my web browser after viewing that
23:24 <ivantis> Myspace: next time you try to look hot, flush the toilet.
23:24 <ivantis> (the caption)
23:28 <smoothice> I wish I could #kick ivantis
23:28 <smoothice> I guess I'll just have to
23:28 <ivantis> im looking at a really weird blog
23:28 <smoothice> #slap ivantis then
23:28 <@armabot> smoothice slaps ivantis then for being a raving moron.
23:30 <ivantis> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_eqkC4iaC5QI/SKeiNnLeReI/AAAAAAAAQbg/mA4ukA7Pv3c/s1600-h/sucker.jpg
23:30 <smoothice> no way am I clicking on that
23:31 <ivantis> dude
23:31 <smoothice> yes mam?
23:31 <ivantis> its just a bunch of suckers stuck to a guys back
23:31 <ivantis> man there are some weird pictures here
23:33 <ivantis> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_NYOy5gqSMBE/SKtOVaL8EGI/AAAAAAAABHg/0ePLIohb1ko/s1600-h/DSCN0638.jpg
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23:43 <ivantis> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_eqkC4iaC5QI/SK_3pTqGEhI/AAAAAAAARAM/sMW71cYJARI/s1600-h/ErgoQuest500.jpg
23:43 <ivantis> i need that
23:51 <luke-jr> still up?
23:52 <ivantis> huh?
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23:52 <luke-jr> aabeta
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23:54 <animuson> beta is down again :(
23:57 <ivantis> that answers his question
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23:58 <Lackadaisical> #tea
23:58 <@armabot> Lackadaisical: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): Egg, Player 1, Player 2, wap, ~|DS|~zion, ¦×¦ PlayerNuby
23:59 <luke-jr> sigh
23:59 <luke-jr> it's March

Log from 2009-03-15:
--- Day changed Sun Mar 15 2009
00:00 <luke-jr> animuson: what happened to calling me?
00:00 <luke-jr> is aabeta down for anyone other than animuson? O.o
00:00 <animuson> i dont have ur phone number?
00:00 <animuson> lol
00:00 <luke-jr> everything checks out here
00:00 <luke-jr> animuson: you should
00:01 <luke-jr> [17:15:10] <luke-jr> 402-218-1954
00:01 <animuson> its back up
00:01 <animuson> :P
00:01 <luke-jr> …
00:04 <epsy> Teaser time: http://fff.armagetron.co.uk/
00:07 <sinewave> lol!
00:07 <epsy> all the loading time just for that: pwned
00:07 <epsy> :D
00:07 <smoothice> ?stylesheet for the css
00:07 <smoothice> clever
00:08 <epsy> yeah, I'm limiting everything to one page, so the rest can be 403'd
00:08 <smoothice> yeah
00:09 <epsy> does it at least look nice?
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00:11 <epsy> :-(
00:11 <ivantis> …
00:12 <smoothice> ...
00:12 <ivantis> please do not do something like that
00:12 <smoothice> #m epsy hi
00:12 <ivantis> no "Loading"
00:12 <@armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
00:12 <ivantis> i hate that kind of thing
00:12 <epsy> #ping
00:12 <@armabot> pong
00:12 <ivantis> #ding
00:12 <epsy> smoothice, hi
00:12 <@armabot> dong
00:12 <sinewave> the fff page? looks great. it's got me looking forward to seeing it finished
00:12 <epsy> phew
00:12 <epsy> now I'm gonna deceive you :(
00:13 <sinewave> is the background made with context free art?
00:13 <epsy> no
00:13 <epsy> just gimp
00:13 <epsy> I doubt cfdg could do that
00:13 <epsy> though I can't be sure about that
00:13 <epsy> well, the smoke can't be done with cfdg
00:14 <sinewave> ah
00:14 <epsy> also, regarding flex's bs, I had contacted durka
00:14 <epsy> or FoFo
00:15 <epsy> but we contacted him to ask him if he was still going to be organizing it
00:15 <epsy> it being TST
00:15 <epsy> not I just don't want to chat with flex
00:15 <epsy> s/not/now/
00:16  * epsy wipes his mouse and closes the tab
00:16 <animuson> anyone know a good fortress config file?
00:16 <animuson> other than the default ones that come with the game
00:16 <animuson> :-/
00:17 <epsy> these are fine enough
00:17 <epsy> if you don't have it, for some reason, you can either download it from launchpad or use my compilation: http://xclan.armagetron.co.uk/resource/epsy@x/config/fortress/base.cfg
00:18 <smoothice> epsy:
00:18 <smoothice> epsy: hi wassup
00:19 <epsy> nothing special, you?
00:20 <smoothice> nuthin much
00:20  * epsy couldn't resist it
00:20 <epsy> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=204806#204806
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00:42 <epsy> @base 16 10 39
00:42 <teabot> epsy: 57
00:42 <epsy> @base 16 10 29
00:42 <teabot> epsy: 41
00:43 <epsy> @base 16 10 3A
00:43 <teabot> epsy: 58
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00:43 <joda_bot> epsy: extracting colors ? :-)
00:44 <epsy> no, characters
00:44 <joda_bot> heh
00:44 <epsy> wordpress buggin me :(
00:44 <joda_bot> what's the problem ?
00:45 <epsy> been trying to put a smiley as title=""
00:45 <epsy> it ate the whole img
00:45 <joda_bot> uh,?
00:45 <joda_bot> which wordpress version do you use ?
00:45 <epsy> http://playfortress.wordpress.com/
00:45 <joda_bot> I guess it's more a broken "simlie" extention ?
00:45 <epsy> #eliza which wordpress version do I use?
00:45 <@armabot> epsy: What do you think?
00:46 <epsy> no, it's just it didn't like either the : or the )
00:46 <epsy> do it dropped the whole <img> as text
00:47 <joda_bot> eh, whatever, looks fixed ? :D
00:47 <epsy> well yeah
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00:47 <epsy> you clicked the link, I hope
00:48 <animuson> does everytime.cfg get included before or after ROUND_COMMENCING is written to the ladderlog?
00:48 <epsy> or do I really need to put a 3px wide blue border ? :D
00:48 <epsy> before
00:50 <luke-jr> http://xclan.armagetron.co.uk/resource/epsy@x/config/fortress/base.cfg <-- we should make that work by default XD
00:50 <luke-jr> eg, have @x query the authority for a repository
00:50 <epsy> GID authors or the cfg?
00:50 <epsy> hm
00:51 <luke-jr> and let the authority provide a normal 403
00:52 <luke-jr> if author contains '@', ?query=resource&filepath=epsy@x/config/fortress/base.cfg
00:52 <epsy> that would be neat if we could upload resources using our GIDs as author names
00:52 <luke-jr> epsy: that too
00:53 <epsy> do you plan on ever doing that?
00:53 <luke-jr> in fact, maybe we should promote that over my idea
00:53 <luke-jr> epsy: why are you asking me? :x
00:53 <luke-jr> epsy: the code is right there… :/
00:53 <epsy> well, you seem to be the resource repo guy
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00:53 <epsy> path?
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00:53 <luke-jr> https://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/add-resource
00:54 <epsy> ok, I'll check it out
00:54 <luke-jr> I'd make it a library tho
00:54 <luke-jr> digest HTTP auth *should* be possible w/ armathentication
00:54 <epsy> ah
00:54 <epsy> there is already
00:54 <luke-jr> ?
00:55 <epsy> https://code.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/trunk-http-auth-client-work
00:55  * luke-jr notes all the current system is is a htpasswd file
00:55 <Lucifer> Lackadaisical: I usually specificy fonts as Helvetica, Arial, Courier, iirc.
00:55 <epsy> ewww heh
00:55 <Lucifer> so if Helvetica is available, it's always my first pick, but windows usually gets Arial because Helvetica is really just a Free version of Arial anyway ;)
00:56 <Lucifer> Lackadaisical: you have svn write access to the website stuff, right?
00:56 <Lucifer> I don't think we've moved that stuff to bzr yet
00:56  * ivantis notes that luke-jr just used an "isis"
00:56 <Lucifer> it may not even make sense to put it into bzr, that was a decision we delegated to some future time
00:56 <luke-jr> ivantis: so?
00:56 <epsy> Lucifer, by the way, are me and babybug supposed to be allowed to change topics?
00:56 <ivantis> you couldnt find a way around it?
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00:56 <Lucifer> epsy: beats me, whatever armabot lets you do
00:57 <luke-jr> epsy: that doesn't seem to use HTTP auth properly
00:57 <luke-jr> ivantis: why bother?
00:57 <Lucifer> but you're really supposed to just kick smegheads when they're causing trouble and nobody else is around to help :)
00:57 <ivantis> why not?
00:57 <Lackadaisical> I don't know.. I've only used svn once to try and upload screenshots
00:57 <epsy> Lucifer, it lets us take op, but as soon as we change the topic chanserv resets it and takes my op
00:57 <ivantis> ownt
00:57 <epsy> #op
00:57 <Lucifer> epsy: guru3 probably has some sort of enforcement on it, and that's fine
00:58 <luke-jr> epsy: … why does this try to implement HTTP itself? :/
00:58 <ivantis> "Hey, you changing the topic? Deop!"
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00:58 <Lucifer> the reason for op-via-armabot is to let more people help kicking smegheads and other friends of luke-jr
00:58 <epsy> luke-jr, uh?
00:58 <luke-jr> epsy: GET blah blah
00:59 <Lucifer> Lackadaisical: iirc, we picked up you and edd at the same time, you to work on the websites (since at the time we were growing websites faster than my whiskers grow), and edd to do graphical design
00:59 <epsy> are you talking about something under phase1-3 ?
00:59 <luke-jr> maybe
00:59 <Lucifer> and since you had already done most of the web design already, you were the obvious pick ;)
00:59 <luke-jr> yes
00:59 <epsy> that's guru3's work
00:59 <epsy> it's rather difficult to trust as a user
00:59 <epsy> IMO
01:00 <epsy> passwords are transmitted raw to the middle man
01:00 <luke-jr> epsy: that's why I wouldn't use it? ☺
01:00 <Lackadaisical> heh maybe that's true i recall sending you at least something about a redesign but I couldn't find it in my inbox anymore
01:00 <luke-jr> hm
01:00 <luke-jr> Konq doesn't show whether auth is secure either
01:00 <Lackadaisical> and that would explain why i approached you instead of tank or someone else
01:00 <luke-jr> nor does FF :<
01:00 <epsy> webform allows it not not go thru the middle at all but uses a different scheme
01:01 <epsy> that means authority support
01:01 <luke-jr> epsy: ew
01:01 <ivantis> whats FF?
01:01 <epsy> luke-jr, problem is that it is 1/ transmitted raw
01:01 <luke-jr> FireFox crap
01:01 <epsy> 2/ hard to verify anything
01:01 <ivantis> oh firefox
01:01 <luke-jr> epsy: the problem is that browsers suck :<
01:01 <luke-jr> anyone want to make a nice Firefox plugin?
01:01 <epsy> luke-jr, it is rather simple to install
01:01 <ivantis> i see. wow it feels really weird typing with Win+3 on
01:01 <epsy> it's in the http-auth-server package already
01:02 <luke-jr> epsy: it's spoofable
01:02 <epsy> the webform one?
01:02 <epsy> it is, if the user doesn't pay attention
01:02 <luke-jr> the only secure way to do this is a plugin IMO
01:02 <ivantis> all webforms are spoofable
01:02 <epsy> true
01:02 <ivantis> everything client side is spoofable
01:02 <epsy> but phase1-3 is really easy to spoof if the users doesn't look 3 hours at the code
01:02 <luke-jr> epsy: I guess for now people would need to just trust aabeta
01:03 <ivantis> its so gross that we live in a world where you cant trust people not to do mean stuff when they find a security flaw
01:03 <luke-jr> neither phase1-3 nor webform are standards compliant either
01:03 <epsy> ie. ?
01:03 <epsy> well, I think guru3 could upgrade his auth server
01:04 <epsy> which could be used as a sample of Lackadaisical's design by the way
01:04 <luke-jr> ie, 401 Unauthorized w/ WWW-Authenticate header
01:04 <epsy> does AAGID define that?
01:05 <luke-jr> epsy: HTTP does
01:06 <luke-jr> this is on the CLIENT end
01:06 <epsy> link?
01:06 <luke-jr> between client and res repo
01:06 <luke-jr> http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec10.html#sec10.4.2
01:06 <epsy> wait, what's the actual problem?
01:06 <epsy> ah
01:07 <luke-jr> epsy: phase/webform are abusing HTML <form> for authentication
01:07 <luke-jr> when HTTP already has a more secure standard
01:07 <luke-jr> especially when used with the digest algo
01:07 <luke-jr> which unfortunately browsers don't inform the user
01:07 <epsy> so does 90%+ of the websites actually out there
01:07 <epsy> and actually it's up to the webmaster to use a <form> or not
01:08 <luke-jr> using a form isn't standards compliant
01:08 <epsy> it's how it's done in the test.php, but one could have it's client do id_rsa auth
01:08 <luke-jr> that's why we have nonsense hacks to remember passwords
01:08 <luke-jr> if everyone used HTTP auth, password remembering would be simple
01:09 <luke-jr> the only weakness in HTTP auth is that you can't logout with most browsers
01:09 <luke-jr> but that's a client bug
01:09 <epsy> again, it's up to the webmaster, entirely
01:09 <epsy> on webform, at least
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01:11 <Your_mom_arma> #ping
01:11 <@armabot> pong
01:11 <Your_mom_arma> overlay?
01:12 <epsy> luke-jr, also, an enourmous flaw:
01:12 <epsy> javascript:window.open("")
01:12 <epsy> check your address bar when the prompt shows up
01:13 <epsy> that makes detecting spoofing impossible until you've actually got spoofed
01:14 <epsy> wether it may be valid or not, it just HAS to be NEVER used
01:15 <Your_mom_arma> is zmanuel still around?
01:15 <zmanuel> no :)
01:16 <Your_mom_arma> okay, fair enough
01:16 <zmanuel> Just kidding. I'm around.
01:16 <Your_mom_arma> you got me :D
01:16 <Your_mom_arma> overlay?
01:17 <zmanuel> Yeah, the bit that shows the players that are on Mumble even in fullscreen games.
01:17 <luke-jr> epsy: uh, no?
01:17 <luke-jr> my addressbar has the URI
01:17 <epsy> firefox has not
01:17 <luke-jr> and the prompt clearly says "Was something meant to be here, huh? ;) at
01:17 <luke-jr> firefox bug
01:17 <luke-jr> report it
01:18 <epsy> yeah, firefox bug
01:18 <Your_mom_arma> oh, its in expert config
01:19 <epsy> I doubt you really know anything about webdevelopement luke..it's almost entirely about working around browser bug
01:19 <epsy> the last tiny bit is the actual fun part
01:19 <Your_mom_arma> yep, disabling that fixed it
01:20 <zmanuel> Hmm. Of course, the overlay is one of the key features of Mumble.
01:20 <epsy> couldn't it be integrated into the HUD?
01:20 <epsy> how do other games do?
01:20 <zmanuel> Possibly, but we'd need to poll info from mumble.
01:21 <Your_mom_arma> I play arma in window mode anyway
01:21 <zmanuel> Ah. then you don't need the overlay. And it may be related.
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01:33 <Your_mom_arma> thanks for the help.
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01:36 <luke-jr> epsy: I isolate my workarounds.
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01:42 <luke-jr> hi ct|kyle
01:42 <ct|kyle> oi luke-jr
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01:47 <luke-jr> :<
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01:53 <joda_bot> gn8
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10:56 <guru3> good morning everybody
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11:38 <Lucifer> morning guru3 (hi there!)
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12:11 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r935 Taught attacker to aim for the gap for insertion attacks....
12:23 <Lucifer> http://www.theonion.com/content/news/fda_approves_salmonella
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12:27  * epsy knows the onion for crashing his browser so frequently
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15:09 <smoothice> ct|kyle: say... wanna df?
15:09 <smoothice> #ls +|smo
15:09 <ct|kyle> smoothice: not now
15:09 <smoothice> :(
15:09 <@armabot> smoothice: +|SmOoThice~NW seems to be on  ~Night Walker's Central~DF~ right now.
15:10 <smoothice> ct|kyle: ok
15:10 <smoothice> epsy: say... wanna df?
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15:21 <Chinaren> hello?
15:21 <epsy> df?
15:21 <epsy> hi Chinaren
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15:21 <smoothice> epsy: dog fight
15:22 <compguygene> hi
15:22 <epsy> smoothice, the arbitrary rules "gametype" ?
15:22 <smoothice> yo compguydude
15:22 <smoothice> epsy: 1
15:22 <epsy> no thanks
15:22 <smoothice> epsy: mls
15:22 <smoothice> lms
15:22 <smoothice> compguygene: hows fff coming
15:22 <epsy> I don't have time now, and I would only play it if it was enforced by settings
15:22 <epsy> compguygene, #.tourneys
15:23 <compguygene> on my way
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16:11 <smoothice> epsy: how can I compile one armagetron binary
16:12 <smoothice> epsy: and then run multiple isntances of it for multiple servers
16:12 <smoothice> epsy: what flags do I need to pass to it for it to work correctly?
16:13 <Vanhayes> #tea
16:13 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): 'rope, pruWord (Word@forums), stax, SuBlImInAl.FreQ, |A|--->, ~|DS|~zion (zion@forums)
16:14 <smoothice> compgygene: ^... it looks like for the server pharm you use one binary and run it multiple times.. how do you do that with different settings? userconfigdir and vardir?
16:14 <ct|kyle> smoothice: --prefix /path/to/bin/
16:14 <smoothice> ?
16:14 <smoothice> ct|kyle: huh?
16:15 <ct|kyle> if you set a perfix and then run it with that prefix you can run it multiple times
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16:18 <ct|kyle> smoothice: actually you should be able to compile it anyway and then set it up to run on any server LOL
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16:23 <smoothice> ct|kyle: can I just make a shell script for each server
16:23 <smoothice> and a settings folder
16:23 <smoothice> and a var folder
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16:26 <smoothice> ct|kyle: what is userconfigdir vs. configdir?
16:29 <ct|kyle> smoothice yes
16:32 <dlh> userconfig is where you keep your config files. configdir holds the default ones
16:33 <smoothice> dlh: so settings_custom.cfg would be the only file in userconfigdir
16:34 <smoothice> dlh: and/or server_info.cfg
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16:35 <dlh> right, but you could set userdata dir and everything else would be all set
16:35 <smoothice> dlh: there's a userdatadir?
16:36 <dlh> yea, look here: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Configuration_Files
16:36 <smoothice> ok thanks
16:37 <smoothice> dlh: I was thinking of just setting userconfigdir and vardir
16:37 <smoothice> dlh: then leave the rest to default
16:37 <smoothice> dlh: wouldn't that work?
16:38 <dlh> Yea, that should also work.
16:40 <smoothice> dlh: ok
16:40 <epsy> @aawikis multiple instances
16:40 <teabot> epsy: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Making_Maps_by_Hand - Making Maps by Hand - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
16:40 <smoothice> wow
16:40 <epsy> okay
16:40 <smoothice> fail
16:40 <smoothice> :P
16:40 <epsy> @aawikis multiple instances linux
16:40 <teabot> epsy: no results for: multiple instances linux site:wiki.armagetronad.net
16:40 <epsy> @aawikis multiple dedicated linux
16:41 <teabot> epsy: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Running_Multiple_Servers_on_a_single_Linux_computer - Running Multiple Servers on a single Linux computer - Armagetron ...
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16:41 <smoothice> thanks epsy døød
16:42 <smoothice> lol
16:42 <SuPeRTaRD> re
16:42 <SuPeRTaRD> did i miss anything?
16:42 <epsy> yeah
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16:45 <SuPeRTaRD> hi fonkay
16:46 <SuPeRTaRD> lack,  luci,  etc...     ltns
16:57 <joda_bot> SuPeRTaRD: hi
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17:16 <smoothice> ct|kyle: checking for ZTHREAD - version >= 2.3.2... yes
17:16 <smoothice> ct|kyle: :D
17:19 <SuPeRTaRD> bbl, nap & i have an old decreped laptop...
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18:20 <smoothice> dlh: vardir and userconfigdir work! thanks so much!
18:28 <dlh> smoothice: great :)
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18:35 <smoothice> dlh: what is spawn_point_group_size?
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18:47 <Pathetique> #ls 3ff3c
18:47 <armabot> Pathetique: 3ff3ct seems to be on QuantumPerformance =Dog Fight= right now.
18:48 <MrBougo> lol, QuantumPerformance
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18:51 <smoothice> Anyone want to test a server?
18:51 <smoothice> Pig Sty?
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18:51 <Pathetique> sure
18:52 <Pathetique> For 9 minutes though
18:52 <Pathetique> I have to get ready for wwork then :(
18:52 <Pathetique> #si death
18:52 <armabot> Pathetique: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (0/16):
18:52 <Pathetique> no
18:52 <Pathetique> rofl
18:53 <MrBougo> pig sty?
18:53 <MrBougo> is groundpig still around?
18:53 <MrBougo> I remember he had been away for some time when I left
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18:57 <Pathetique> #ls 3ff3ct
18:57 <armabot> Pathetique: 3ff3ct has last been seen on QuantumPerformance =Dog Fight= 7 minutes ago.
18:57 <Pathetique> oh well
18:57 <Pathetique> cu all
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18:59 <ivantis2> how do i miss this?
18:59 <ivantis2> Pathetique, come back!
19:00 <ivantis2> one of the only people who doesnt hate me
19:00 <ivantis2> #ls Pathetique
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19:00 <armabot> ivantis2: .dBd|Pathetique has last been seen on QuantumPerformance =Dog Fight= 5 minutes ago.
19:01 <ivantis2> #help ls
19:01 <armabot> ivantis2: (ls <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "lastseen $*".
19:01 <ivantis2> #help lastseen
19:01 <armabot> ivantis2: (lastseen <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/lastseen.php?player=@1+@2+@3+@4+@5+@6+@7+@8+@9".
19:02 <madmax> #ls madmax
19:02 <madmax> :O
19:03 -!- ivantis2 is now known as ivantis
19:03 <armabot> madmax: madmax has last been seen on WILDCAT 4 hours 43 minutes ago.
19:04 <madmax> ^ not me
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19:09 <ivantis> #ping
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19:09 <armabot> pong
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19:17 <sinewave> #ls sine.wav
19:17 <armabot> sinewave: sine.wav has last been seen on .:] Twisted Rats [:. Fortress 11 hours 0 minutes ago.
19:17 <sinewave> ;)
19:17 <smoothice> sinewave; wanna come test/
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19:18 <ivantis2> i do
19:18 <smoothice> ~Night Walker's Central~Shooting~ Version: 0.2.8-sty+ct_alpha20090315 unix dedicated
19:18 <ivantis2> custom connect info?
19:18 <smoothice> list
19:18 <smoothice> master list
19:18 <ivantis2> i dont like using teh master list
19:18 <ivantis2> #sd -v night walker
19:19 <smoothice> #si -v ~Night Walker's Central~Shooting~
19:19 <armabot> ivantis2: ~Night Walker's Central~CTF~ ( running 0.2.8_alpha20080720 unix dedicated, url: Nightwalkers.info, Description: “Have fun, no cussing. Paid for by Beanie Hosted by Flynn's Arcade!“, Players (0/8):
19:19 <smoothice> I don't remember what ports it's on
19:19 <smoothice> wow
19:19 <smoothice> totally wrong
19:19 <armabot> smoothice: ~Night Walker's Central~Shooting~ ( running 0.2.8-sty+ct_alpha20090315 unix dedicated, url: Nightwalkers.info, Description: “The new shooting server from ~NW! Have fun!“, Players (0/8):
19:19 <smoothice> oh
19:19 <smoothice> k
19:19 <ivantis2> shut up! i cant read it when you keep scrolling it
19:20 <sinewave> be there in a minute...
19:21 <ivantis2> smoothice, you gonna be playing? AIs for CTF suck
19:21 <smoothice> yep
19:22 <ivantis2> oh wrong server
19:22 <smoothice> ...
19:22 <ivantis2> i went to the first one
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19:27 <dlh> #ls -g dlh@generalconsumption.org
19:27 <armabot> dlh: free kill has last been seen on Fortress Café 39 minutes ago.
19:27 <smoothice> #ls -g smoothice@forums
19:28 <armabot> smoothice: +|SmOoThice~NW seems to be on  ~Night Walker's Central~Shooting~ right now.
19:28 <epsy> #ls -g time
19:28 <epsy> #ls -g epsy@x/member
19:28 <epsy> #ls -g epsy@x
19:28 <epsy> #ls -g epsy@ct
19:28 <epsy> #ls -g epsy@forums
19:28 <smoothice> #echo @echo hi
19:28 <epsy> did I forget anything?
19:28 <epsy> smoothice, wont work
19:28 <dlh> #ls epsy
19:29 <epsy> it's busy on the first one :P
19:29 <epsy> #ping
19:29 <epsy> or I did crash it
19:29 <smoothice> #echo hi
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19:30 <epsy> @ls epsy@x/member
19:30 <smoothice> nice going
19:30 <epsy> @ls -g epsy@x/member
19:30 <epsy> @ping
19:30 <epsy> or it's just a netsplit
19:30 <dlh> how many short-name authorities are there?
19:30 <epsy> ask guru3
19:30 <smoothice> how can I get a short-name authorityh?
19:31 <dlh> I don't understand why we have them
19:31 <epsy> @g short authority armagetronad
19:31 <epsy> it's shorter :D
19:31 <MrBougo> fail
19:32 <epsy> smoothice, google for yourself
19:32 <epsy> actually, mine went boom
19:33 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
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19:33 <epsy> omg what did you do smoothice
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19:33 <armabot> epsy: I haven't seen anyone matching “time” yet, sorry.
19:33 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
19:33 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
19:33 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
19:33 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
19:33 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
19:33 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
19:33 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
19:33 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
19:34 <armabot> epsy: epsy¦×¦ has last been seen on Fortress Café 4 hours 11 minutes ago.
19:34 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
19:34 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
19:34 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
19:34 <smoothice> lol
19:34 <epsy> @admin ignore *smoothice*!*@*
19:34 <luke-jr> #kick smoothice don't do that
19:34 <epsy> @owner ignore *smoothice*!*@*
19:34 <dlh> hehe: http://x.authentication.armagetronad.net/sacrifice.php
19:34 <smoothice> dammit!
19:34 <smoothice> haha
19:34 <armabot> epsy: I haven't seen anyone matching “epsy@x” yet, sorry.
19:34 <smoothice> armabot isnt op
19:34 <smoothice> FAIL!
19:34 <smoothice> luke-jr: FAIL!
19:34 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
19:34 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
19:34 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
19:34 <smoothice> @g short authority armagetronad
19:34 <smoothice> lol
19:34 <teabot> smoothice: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Advanced_Chat_Features - Advanced Chat Features - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
19:34 <teabot> smoothice: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Advanced_Chat_Features - Advanced Chat Features - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
19:34 <armabot> epsy: epsy¦×¦ has last been seen on Fortress Café 9 days 3 hours 12 minutes ago.
19:34 <smoothice> thanks man!
19:34 <smoothice> lol
19:34 <teabot> smoothice: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Advanced_Chat_Features - Advanced Chat Features - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
19:34 <luke-jr> Lucifer: assistance plz
19:34 <teabot> smoothice: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Advanced_Chat_Features - Advanced Chat Features - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
19:34 <teabot> smoothice: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Advanced_Chat_Features - Advanced Chat Features - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
19:34 <armabot> epsy: I haven't seen anyone matching “epsy@forums” yet, sorry.
19:34 <smoothice> epsy: quit teabot
19:34 <teabot> smoothice: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Advanced_Chat_Features - Advanced Chat Features - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
19:34 <epsy> @part
19:34 <teabot> smoothice: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Advanced_Chat_Features - Advanced Chat Features - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
19:35 <smoothice> control c!
19:35 <teabot> smoothice: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Advanced_Chat_Features - Advanced Chat Features - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
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19:35 <smoothice> dammit..
19:35 <smoothice> yay
19:35 <armabot> @echo hi
19:35 <smoothice> hi
19:35 <smoothice> wow
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19:35 <smoothice> .hi
19:35 <armabot> pong
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19:35 <luke-jr> z-manuel: wrtlprnft guru3
19:35 <smoothice> wtf?
19:35 <armabot> dlh: timed out
19:35 <epsy> @ignore add *smoothice*!*@*
19:36 <dlh> thanks armabot
19:36 <armabot> hi
19:36 <madmax> -_-
19:36 <z-manuel> what?
19:36 <luke-jr> z-manuel: smoothice needs a lesson
19:36 -!- z-manuel is now known as z-man
19:36 <teabot> epsy: Error: The command "ignore add" is available in the Admin and Channel plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "ignore add".
19:36 <epsy> @admin ignore add *smoothice*!*@*
19:36 <z-man> I'm not an admin.
19:36 <teabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
19:36 <luke-jr> z-man: Chanserv lists you as +o
19:36 <luke-jr> z-man: /msg chanserv op #armagetron
19:37 <luke-jr> /mode #armagetron +o armabot
19:37 <z-man> I don't care what Chanserv says :)
19:37 <armabot> luke-jr: Error: I need to be opped to kick someone.
19:37 <epsy> #ping
19:37 <luke-jr> z-man: you're the only ChanServ-op around atm, I think
19:37 <luke-jr> plz op armabot
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19:38 <smoothice> guru3 is
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19:38 <luke-jr> ………..
19:38 <ivantis2> ..
19:38 <luke-jr> so much for opping armabot
19:38 <z-man> luke-jr: I don't want to bother learning how to admin IRC.
19:38 <ivantis2> yeah she left
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19:38 <luke-jr> z-man: meh, I just told you the two commands. :/
19:38 <luke-jr> #ping
19:39 <epsy> #channel ignore *smoothice*!*@*
19:39 <smoothice> :O
19:39 <luke-jr> Combined into one cmd: /msg chanserv op #armagetron armabot
19:39 <smoothice> are you serious?
19:39 <smoothice> I'll be forced to bring in armastybot then
19:39 <armabot> pong
19:39 <luke-jr> smoothice: good thing we have bans
19:39 <armabot> epsy: Error: 'supybot.ignore' is not a valid configuration variable.
19:39 <smoothice> fail
19:40 <epsy> #channel ignore add *smoothice*!*@*
19:40 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
19:40 <smoothice> @say hi
19:40 <smoothice> #say hi
19:40 <smoothice> ]say #ls +|SmOoThice~NW
19:40 <ljrbot> smoothice: Error: "say" is not a valid command.
19:40 <smoothice> ]echo #ls +|SmOoThice~NW
19:40 <ljrbot> #ls +|SmOoThice~NW
19:40 <luke-jr> ]admin ignore add smoothice
19:40 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
19:40 <smoothice> ...
19:41 <armabot> ljrbot: +|SmOoThice~NW has last been seen on SPACE-LAB Shooting! 4 minutes ago.
19:41 <ljrbot> armabot: Error: "+|SmOoThice~NW" is not a valid command.
19:41 <smoothice> wewt
19:41 <epsy> #channel ignore *bot*!*@*
19:41 <armabot> epsy: Error: 'supybot.ignore' is not a valid configuration variable.
19:41 <epsy> #channel ignore add *bot*!*@*
19:41 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
19:41 <epsy> ]echo #ping
19:41 <ljrbot> #ping
19:41 -!- smoothice is now known as smooth
19:41 <smooth> #echo hi
19:41 <luke-jr> z-man: please
19:41 <epsy> you are heading for a ban
19:42 <smooth> fine
19:42 <epsy> so don't do it
19:42 -!- smooth is now known as smoothice
19:42 <armabot> hi
19:42 <ivantis2> m]]]\
19:42 <smoothice> go head
19:42 <epsy> smoothice, done?
19:42 <smoothice> ban me
19:42 <smoothice> :D
19:42 <ivantis2> ?";no you do not want to br bnned. it is very boring without this place to be able to go to
19:43 <smoothice> #armagetron-0.3-sty
19:43 <luke-jr> epsy: have tronner kickban smoothice from 0.3-sty ;D
19:44 <epsy> uhm, how?
19:44 <luke-jr> epsy: he's op there
19:44 <epsy> and what do I do with that?
19:44 <luke-jr> don't you have tronner admin?
19:44 <epsy> no
19:44 <luke-jr> aw
19:44 <ivantis2> not another place i am banned from!
19:44 <smoothice> yep
19:44 <smoothice> that's right
19:44 <luke-jr> ]help kban
19:44 <ljrbot> luke-jr: (kban [<channel>] [--{exact,nick,user,host}] <nick> [<seconds>] [<reason>]) -- If you have the #channel,op capability, this will kickban <nick> for as many seconds as you specify, or else (if you specify 0 seconds or don't specify a number of seconds) it will ban the person indefinitely. --exact bans only the exact hostmask; --nick bans just the nick; --user bans just the user, and (1 more message)
19:45 <luke-jr> i c
19:45 <luke-jr> why the heck supybot devs can't name it 'kickban' or 'ban' is beyond me ;/
19:45 <epsy> I don't know
19:45 <luke-jr> ]alias add kickban kban
19:45 <epsy> @help kickban
19:45 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
19:45 <luke-jr> ]alias add ban kban
19:45 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
19:45 <teabot> epsy: (kickban <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "kban $*".
19:45 <luke-jr> ]lock ban
19:45 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
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19:45 <luke-jr> ]lock kickban
19:45 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
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20:02 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Blaze/Race/Fire_Palace-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Blaze
20:02 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Blaze/ID/Twigs-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Blaze
20:03 <akira_arma> #tea
20:03 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (11/32): -»|hoop, 1200, @<_^)JOeW(^_>@, CT_emphasis, doink, Hype, ikono, killerbees19 (killerbees19@forums), orly?, Player 1, ¦×¦ PlayerNuby
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20:11 <smoothice> PinkTomato: :D
20:11 <smoothice> PinkTomato: http://smootharma.ath.cx/serverstatus.php
20:23 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Blaze/Race/Holiday-1.0.3.aamap.xml: Resource by Blaze
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22:12 <akira_arma> dlh:
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22:44 <armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-old-glancing] r760 Merge from trunk...
22:49 <akira_arma> could anyone help me building tron on windows? :)
22:49 <akira_arma> codeblocks gives me this: Armagetron Advanced - Win32 Debug" uses an invalid compiler. Probably the toolchain path within the compiler options is not setup correctly?
22:50 <z-man> nope, never had that.
22:50 <akira_arma> ah
22:50 <akira_arma> seems i nreally need stupid mingw
22:51 <epsy> you kinda need a compiler to compile anything
22:51 <akira_arma> but they have a 600MB installer :(
22:51 <akira_arma> yea i thought codeblocks would come with compilers...
22:51 <epsy> there's an installer with compilers included afaik
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22:52 <akira_arma> true
22:53 <akira_arma> i got the wrong one :(
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23:12 <akira_arma> ok i built it.. but  it didnt build an .exe file
23:15 <dlh> Following this step? http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Windows_Development#Building_Armagetron_Advanced
23:16 <akira_arma> ah oops forgot to checkout some other stuff
23:16 <akira_arma> :/
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23:18 <akira_arma> ok i am just confused over one thing
23:18 <akira_arma> I have the directories from your build dlh
23:19 <akira_arma> but i also need them from trunk
23:19 <akira_arma> where do i put them? :)
23:19 <akira_arma> <- newb!
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23:24 <akira_arma> nvm
23:27 <akira_arma> i had the wrong directory structure
23:27 <akira_arma> it seems..
23:35 <akira_arma> argh
23:35 <akira_arma> why doesn't it build the .exe :(
23:36 <akira_arma> i followed the instructions!
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23:38 <akira_arma> ah
23:38 <dlh> akira_arma: the armagetronad-old-glancing directory is the source folder for the game.
23:38 <akira_arma> f:/Program Files/CodeBlocks/MinGW/bin/../lib/gcc/mingw32/3.4.5/../../../../include/ctype.h:169: error: ambiguates old declaration `int isblank(int)'
23:38 <dlh> so I guess for windows building it should be called armagetronad
23:38 <dlh> i'm not sure if it matters
23:38 <akira_arma> compiler gives me an error about 1 line
23:38 <dlh> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Windows_Development#Troubleshooting
23:39 <akira_arma> ah
23:39 <akira_arma> being able to read is sure a good thing :/
23:44 <Your_mom_arma> #ping
23:44 <armabot> pong
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23:46 <akira_arma> now it gives me tons of errors in network authentication xD
23:47 <akira_arma> authetification*
23:47 <dlh> Use http://rafb.net/paste/ and paste the errors there
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Log from 2009-03-16:
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00:12  * z-man hates cross references in electronic TV guides
00:13 <z-man> throw automatic recording timers off every time
00:13 <z-man> "by the same director who also made film X with Michael Caine"
00:51 <akira_arma> bah
00:52 <akira_arma> BAH
00:54 <luke-jr> akira_arma: BAH U
00:54 <akira_arma> i go insane
00:54 <akira_arma> i cant build tron :(
00:54 <luke-jr> use Linux
00:54 <akira_arma> compiler gives me stupid errors which i dont understand
00:54 <luke-jr> ofc?
00:54 <akira_arma> tho i did it all as outlined in the documentation
00:55 <luke-jr> we have documentation?
00:55 <akira_arma> well
00:55 <luke-jr> lulz XD
00:55 <akira_arma> some readme.txt and the wiki
00:55 <luke-jr> akira_arma: here's a hint:
00:55 <luke-jr> nobody has built Armagetron on Windows for about 2 months now
00:56 <akira_arma> can you give me the protobuf compiler?
00:56 <akira_arma> ;)
00:56 <akira_arma> somehow it seems to be missing
00:56 <akira_arma> umm whatever :/
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00:58 <akira_arma> also the compiling script refers to some file which doesnt exist
01:02 <luke-jr> akira_arma: nobody has ever compiled Armagetron with protobuf on Windows
01:03 <akira_arma> http://rafb.net/p/DHPrls40.html
01:05 <akira_arma> oops wrong one
01:05 <akira_arma> http://rafb.net/p/djTpMU92.html
01:05 <akira_arma> this
01:08 <dlh> The missing file, nAuthentication.pb.h, is generated from nAuthentication.proto by protoc
01:09 <dlh> You need to run win32/protobuf.bat
01:10 <dlh> "Check you've got python installed and set the path to the executable inside python.bat. Same for the protobuf compiler protoc" <- I guess you have to manually edit files to build for windows
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01:13 <luke-jr> why is code.google.com down? :/
01:15 <z-man> luke-jr: stop talking about things you don't know about :)
01:15 <luke-jr> z-man: ?
01:15 <z-man> I did build with protobuf on Windows.
01:15 <luke-jr> why isn't it on aabeta? -.-
01:15 <z-man> Because I didn't upload it?
01:15 <luke-jr> meh
01:15 <z-man> It was just a build to see that compilation still works.
01:15 <luke-jr> so everyone waiting for a win32 protobuf client are waiting why? XD
01:16 <z-man> Why would they want one?
01:16 <luke-jr> to play on trunk servers using Zones v2?
01:16 <z-man> What's the immediate, right now benefit for them?
01:16 <z-man> They can use 0.2.8.x for that :)
01:16 <luke-jr> 0.2.8 won't do polygon shapes
01:17 <z-man> There also is no Linux build for protobuf up there.
01:17 <luke-jr> there's never Linux alphas
01:17 <z-man> Why should we treat Windows differently?
01:17 <luke-jr> :p
01:17  * luke-jr wonders whatever happened ot the buildbot
01:17 <z-man> And the only builds directly from svn/bzr were those wrtl made.
01:18 <luke-jr> hum
01:18 <luke-jr> well, akira_arma sparked me to cross-compile a win32 build :p
01:18 <z-man> anyway, akira_arma: you need the latest winlibs from svn/bzr. The zip archive won't do.
01:18 <z-man> good luck with that.
01:19 <luke-jr> biggest problem so far is protobuf being treated differently in winlibs
01:19 <luke-jr> and protobuf being buggy for cross-compiling itself :x
01:19 <z-man> Yeah, they only have visual studio project files.
01:20 <luke-jr> I don't mean just Windows cross compiling
01:20 <luke-jr> it wouldn't work x86->MIPS either
01:40 <noob13> #channelstats
01:40 <armabot> noob13: On #armagetron there have been 858990 messages, containing 30188110 characters, 5308880 words, 49445 smileys, and 25612 frowns; 20187 of those messages were ACTIONs.  There have been 50091 joins, 3913 parts, 45134 quits, 340 kicks, 1217 mode changes, and 73 topic changes.
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01:47 <armabot> armacommits: [trunk-winlibs-work] r31 protobuf binaries || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r897 Changed anaglyph stereo settings to be tSettingItems....
01:51 <akira_arma> i have the latest winlibs..
01:51 <akira_arma> at least i used svn to get them
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01:53 <luke-jr> uh
01:54 <luke-jr> wt_f_ is tRing? O.o
02:00 <Lucifer> luke-jr: I stopped running the buildbot when I switched to google for my mail hosting becuase I couldn't get the buildbot to send outgoing emails
02:00 <luke-jr> O.o
02:00 <Lucifer> I'm taking a crack at fixing that right now, so maybe I"ll have another buildmaster running soon ;)
02:00 <luke-jr> Lucifer: Windows included, by any chance? ;)
02:01 <Lucifer> I'm going to run a build master, people need to volunteer buildslaves
02:01 <luke-jr> i c
02:02 <Lucifer> I might setup a ubuntu 8.10 buildslave
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02:14 <dlh> All the windows binary dependencies are kept in source control? I thought we just kept the source code to build the stuff in there...
02:24 <Lucifer> no, we keep the binaries, it's easier that way
02:24 <dlh> but in source control? Seems like bloat. Just zip them up and release them.
02:29 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9157 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/eCamera.cpp): Daniel Lee Harple: Changed anaglyph stereo settings to be tSettingItems.
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02:33 <zurd> good evening
02:33 <zurd> #q
02:33 <armabot> zurd: Quote #82: "<TaZ> Ady-Lucifer: Nah, you're nicer than lucifer though" (added by K-Yo at 04:46 PM, December 13, 2008)
02:35 <luke-jr> hi zurd
02:35 <luke-jr> did you get a virus scan done?
02:35 <zurd> for that computer?
02:35 <luke-jr> yeah
02:36 <zurd> yeah, that comp is just whacked...im on MY computer now
02:36 <luke-jr> lol
02:36 <luke-jr> works better? ☺
02:36 <zurd> but that computer is always being scaned
02:36 <zurd> MUCH BETTER
02:36 <luke-jr> great
02:36 <zurd> anyways, how would i install an armaserver via ssh
02:37 <zurd> and what does the armapanal do any way
02:38 <zurd> brb/afk
02:40 <ivantis2> how to install via ssh?
02:40 <ivantis2> i did all my installations and setup over ssh
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02:45 <Lucifer> armabuilder: help
02:45 <armabuilder> Get help on what? (try 'help <foo>', or 'commands' for a command list)
02:46 <Lucifer> armabuilder: commands
02:46 <armabuilder> buildbot commands: commands, dance, destroy, excited, force, hello, help, join, last, leave, list, notify, source, status, stop, version, watch
02:46 <Lucifer> armabuilder: dance
02:46 <armabuilder> 0-<
02:46 <armabuilder> 0-/
02:46 <armabuilder> 0-\
02:46 <Lucifer> armabuilder: last
02:46 <armabuilder> last build [linux-client]: (no builds run since last restart)
02:46 <armabuilder> last build [linux-server]: (no builds run since last restart)
02:46 <Lucifer> well, I guess now I need to get a slave running so I can see if it works :)
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02:49 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
02:49 <armabuilder> linux-client: offline
02:49 <armabuilder> linux-server: offline
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02:50 <ivantis2> what is this armabuilder?
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02:50 <ivantis2> buildbot? whats it for?
02:51 <luke-jr> Lucifer: btw, armabot needs ops=
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02:51 <ivantis2> luke-jr, arent you an op?
02:51 <ivantis2> yay! now we can play roulette
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02:52 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
02:52 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
02:52 <armabuilder> linux-server: idle
02:52 <Lucifer> armabuilder: commands
02:52 <armabuilder> buildbot commands: commands, dance, destroy, excited, force, hello, help, join, last, leave, list, notify, source, status, stop, version, watch
02:52 <Lucifer> armabuilder: help force
02:52 <armabuilder> Usage: force build <which> <reason> - Force a build
02:52 <Lucifer> armabuilder: force linux-server test
02:53 <armabuilder> try 'force build WHICH <REASON>'
02:53 <Lucifer> armabuilder: force build linux-server test
02:53 <armabuilder> build #0 forced
02:53 <armabuilder> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
02:53 <ivantis2> armabuilder, hello
02:53 <armabuilder> yes?
02:53 <ivantis2> hi
02:53 <Lucifer> ivantis2: don't play with this bot
02:53 <ivantis2> ok
02:56 <Lucifer> hmmm, why did it fail?
02:56 <Lucifer> armabuilder: commands
02:56 <armabuilder> buildbot commands: commands, dance, destroy, excited, force, hello, help, join, last, leave, list, notify, source, status, stop, version, watch
02:56 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
02:56 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
02:56 <armabuilder> linux-server: idle, last build 194 secs ago: failed svn
02:57 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
02:57 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
02:57 <armabuilder> linux-server: idle, last build 207 secs ago: failed svn
02:57 <Lucifer> armabuilder: excited
02:57 <armabuilder> What you say!
02:57 <Lucifer> armabuilder: last
02:57 <armabuilder> last build [linux-client]: (no builds run since last restart)
02:57 <armabuilder> last build [linux-server]: 222 secs ago: failed svn
02:57 <Lucifer> armabuilder: force build linux-server test
02:57 <armabuilder> build #1 forced
02:57 <armabuilder> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
02:57 <Lucifer> armabuilder: last
02:57 <armabuilder> last build [linux-client]: (no builds run since last restart)
02:57 <armabuilder> last build [linux-server]: 5 secs ago: failed svn
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03:01 <Lucifer> armabuilder: last
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03:03 <Lucifer> armabuilder: last
03:03 <armabuilder> last build [linux-client]: (no builds run since last restart)
03:03 <armabuilder> last build [linux-server]: 360 secs ago: failed svn
03:03 <Lucifer> armabuilder: force build linux-server test
03:03 <armabuilder> build #2 forced
03:03 <armabuilder> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
03:03 <Lucifer> armabuilder: last
03:03 <armabuilder> last build [linux-client]: (no builds run since last restart)
03:03 <armabuilder> last build [linux-server]: 4 secs ago: exception bzr
03:03 <Lucifer> armabuilder: last
03:03 <armabuilder> last build [linux-client]: (no builds run since last restart)
03:03 <armabuilder> last build [linux-server]: 9 secs ago: exception bzr
03:04 <smoothice> #ubuntu
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03:05 <Lucifer> armabuilder: force build linux-server test
03:05 <armabuilder> build #3 forced
03:05 <armabuilder> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
03:05 <Lucifer> armabuilder: last
03:05 <armabuilder> last build [linux-client]: (no builds run since last restart)
03:05 <armabuilder> last build [linux-server]: 4 secs ago: exception bzr
03:05 <Lucifer> grrr
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03:06 <Lucifer> what a pain in the ass
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03:06 <Lucifer> armabuilder: force build linux-server test
03:06 <armabuilder> sorry, I can't force a build: all slaves are offline
03:06 <Lucifer> armabuilder: force build linux-server test
03:06 <armabuilder> build #4 forced
03:06 <armabuilder> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
03:06 <Lucifer> armabuilder: last
03:06 <armabuilder> last build [linux-client]: (no builds run since last restart)
03:06 <armabuilder> last build [linux-server]: 64 secs ago: exception bzr
03:06 <Lucifer> armabuilder: last
03:06 <armabuilder> last build [linux-client]: (no builds run since last restart)
03:06 <armabuilder> last build [linux-server]: 70 secs ago: exception bzr
03:06 <Lucifer> armabuilder: last
03:06 <armabuilder> last build [linux-client]: (no builds run since last restart)
03:06 <armabuilder> last build [linux-server]: 76 secs ago: exception bzr
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03:07 <Lucifer> armabuilder: force build linux-server test
03:07 <armabuilder> build #4 forced
03:07 <armabuilder> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
03:07 <Lucifer> armabuilder: last
03:07 <armabuilder> last build [linux-client]: (no builds run since last restart)
03:07 <armabuilder> last build [linux-server]: 121 secs ago: exception bzr
03:07 <Lucifer> armabuilder: last
03:07 <armabuilder> last build [linux-client]: (no builds run since last restart)
03:07 <armabuilder> last build [linux-server]: 125 secs ago: exception bzr
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03:08 <Lucifer> armabuilder: force build linux-server test
03:08 <armabuilder> sorry, I can't force a build: all slaves are offline
03:08 <Lucifer> fuck you
03:08 <Lucifer> armabuilder: force build linux-server test
03:08 <armabuilder> build #4 forced
03:08 <armabuilder> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
03:08 <Lucifer> armabuilder: last
03:08 <armabuilder> last build [linux-client]: (no builds run since last restart)
03:08 <armabuilder> last build [linux-server]: 3 secs ago: failed bzr
03:09 <Lucifer> heh
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03:11 <Lucifer> armabuilder: last
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03:11 <Lucifer> armabuilder: force build linux-server test
03:11 <armabuilder> sorry, I can't force a build: all slaves are offline
03:11 <Lucifer> armabuilder: force build linux-server test
03:11 <armabuilder> build #5 forced
03:11 <armabuilder> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
03:11 <Lucifer> armabuilder: last
03:11 <armabuilder> last build [linux-client]: (no builds run since last restart)
03:11 <armabuilder> last build [linux-server]: 158 secs ago: failed bzr
03:11 <Lucifer> armabuilder: last
03:11 <armabuilder> last build [linux-client]: (no builds run since last restart)
03:11 <armabuilder> last build [linux-server]: 161 secs ago: failed bzr
03:12 <Lucifer> armabuilder: last
03:12 <armabuilder> last build [linux-client]: (no builds run since last restart)
03:12 <armabuilder> last build [linux-server]: 199 secs ago: failed bzr
03:12 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
03:12 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
03:12 <armabuilder> linux-server: building(checkout)
03:12 <Lucifer> well, I guess I can only wait, now
03:16 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
03:16 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
03:16 <armabuilder> linux-server: idle, last build 39 secs ago: failed Configure
03:16 <Lucifer> armabuilder: force build linux-server test
03:16 <armabuilder> build #6 forced
03:16 <armabuilder> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
03:16 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
03:16 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
03:16 <armabuilder> linux-server: idle, last build 4 secs ago: failed bzr
03:16 <Lucifer> heh
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03:22 <Lucifer> armabuilder: force build linux-server test
03:22 <armabuilder> build #7 forced
03:22 <armabuilder> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
03:22 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9158 /armagetronad/trunk/winlibs/ (12 files in 5 dirs): Luke Dashjr: protobuf binaries
03:23 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
03:23 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
03:23 <armabuilder> linux-server: building(checkout)
03:23 <luke-jr> :o
03:23 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
03:23 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
03:23 <armabuilder> linux-server: building(checkout)
03:23 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
03:23 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
03:23 <armabuilder> linux-server: building(checkout)
03:23  * Lucifer thinks he should go cook dinner
03:23 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
03:23 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
03:23 <armabuilder> linux-server: building(checkout)
03:24 <luke-jr> slow linux-server
03:24 <luke-jr> my VPS built 0.2.8 in under a minute
03:24 <luke-jr> Lucifer: want a VPS for this?
03:32 <Lucifer> maybe for buildslaves?
03:32 <Lucifer> if you really want to setup a buildbot, knock yourself out :)
03:33 <Lucifer> there's a svn module with all the config I used last time in it, I'm adapting it to bzr right now
03:33 <Lucifer> armabuilder: force build linux-server test
03:33 <armabuilder> build #8 forced
03:33 <armabuilder> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
03:33 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
03:33 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
03:33 <armabuilder> linux-server: idle, last build 3 secs ago: failed bzr
03:33 <Lucifer> why does it keep failing the second time?  :(
03:41 <luke-jr> O.o
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03:42 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
03:42 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
03:42 <armabuilder> linux-server: idle, last build 68 secs ago: failed bzr
03:42 <Lucifer> armabuilder: force build linux-server test
03:42 <armabuilder> build #10 forced
03:42 <armabuilder> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
03:42 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
03:42 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
03:42 <armabuilder> linux-server: building(updating)
03:42 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
03:42 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
03:42 <armabuilder> linux-server: building(updating)
03:42 <zurd> armabuilder: status
03:42 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
03:42 <armabuilder> linux-server: building(updating)
03:42 <zurd> xD
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03:43 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
03:43 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
03:43 <armabuilder> linux-server: building(updating)
03:44 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
03:44 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
03:44 <armabuilder> linux-server: building(updating)
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03:46 <Lucifer> armabuilder: force build linux-server test
03:46 <armabuilder> build #11 forced
03:46 <armabuilder> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
03:46 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
03:46 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
03:46 <armabuilder> linux-server: building(updating)
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04:01 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
04:01 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
04:01 <armabuilder> linux-server: idle, last build 859 secs ago: failed Configure
04:02 <Lucifer> armabuilder: force build linux-server test
04:02 <armabuilder> build #12 forced
04:02 <armabuilder> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
04:02 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
04:02 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
04:02 <armabuilder> linux-server: building(updating)
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04:11 <SuPeRTbbl> hi
04:11 <ivantis2> hai!
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04:15 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
04:15 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
04:15 <armabuilder> linux-server: idle, last build 760 secs ago: failed Configure
04:16 <Lucifer> er, oops
04:17 <Lucifer> armabuilder: force build linux-server test
04:17 <armabuilder> build #13 forced
04:17 <armabuilder> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
04:17 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
04:17 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
04:17 <armabuilder> linux-server: building(bootstrapping)
04:17 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
04:17 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
04:17 <armabuilder> linux-server: building(bootstrapping)
04:17 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
04:17 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
04:17 <armabuilder> linux-server: building(bootstrapping)
04:17 <smoothice> armabuilder: status
04:17 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
04:17 <armabuilder> linux-server: building(bootstrapping)
04:18 <smoothice> Lucifer: what does armabuilder do?
04:18 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
04:18 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
04:18 <armabuilder> linux-server: building(compiling)
04:18 <Lucifer> hmmm, armabuilder is an irc bot that gives access to a buildbot
04:18 <Lucifer> I'm setting up a buildbot for the project again ;)
04:19 <Lucifer> hopefully this time it'll be able to email people about the build
04:19 <smoothice> Cool
04:19 <Lucifer> I'll disable armabuilder after I'm sure the buildbot works, because armabuilder has no way to control access, and people here tend to randomly trigger builds
04:20 <smoothice> yeah
04:22 <smoothice> Lucifer: What does armabuilder run on? Supybot?
04:22 <Lucifer> no, it's part of the buildbot program
04:22 <smoothice> oh
04:22 <smoothice> k
04:25 <smoothice> ct|kyle: http://smootharma.ath.cx/?page_id=11
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04:35 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
04:35 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
04:35 <armabuilder> linux-server: building
04:38 <Lucifer> http://waterfall.davefancella.com/
04:38 <Lucifer> armabuilder: force build linux-server test
04:38 <armabuilder> build forced [ETA 18m40s]
04:38 <armabuilder> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
04:39 <Lucifer> luke-jr: yacc is part of bison, right?
04:39 <luke-jr> no
04:39 <luke-jr> yacc is to bison what C is to C++
04:39 <luke-jr> we require bison
04:40 <Lucifer> so if I install bison, it'll work?  ;)
04:40 <luke-jr> yes
04:40 <Lucifer> http://waterfall.davefancella.com/builders/linux-server/builds/13/steps/Compile/logs/stdio
04:40 <luke-jr> just clarifying that if you install yacc, it won't
04:40 <Lucifer> right, I just installed bison
04:41 <Lucifer> making sure I didn't need to install something else to get the yacc stuff to work
04:41 <luke-jr> good
04:41 <luke-jr> you win a prize
04:41 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
04:41 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle
04:41 <armabuilder> linux-server: building(compiling) [ETA 15m15s]
04:41 <Lucifer> haven't tried to build the client yet, heh
04:43 <Lucifer> wow, I have miscellanous sore muscles all over again
04:46 <Lucifer> armabuilder: force build linux-client test
04:46 <armabuilder> build #0 forced
04:46 <armabuilder> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
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04:51 <luke-jr> armabuilder: status
04:51 <armabuilder> linux-client: building
04:51 <armabuilder> linux-server: building(compiling) [ETA 14m01s]
04:51 <luke-jr> ETA is broken XD
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05:17 <joda_bot> #whoami
05:34 <Lucifer> eta is based on previous build attempts
05:34 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
05:34 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle, last build 2162 secs ago: failed bzr
05:34 <armabuilder> linux-server: idle, last build 2163 secs ago: failed Distcheck
05:34 <Lucifer> armabuilder: commands
05:34 <armabuilder> buildbot commands: commands, dance, destroy, excited, force, hello, help, join, last, leave, list, notify, source, status, stop, version, watch
05:34 <Lucifer> armabuilder: help source
05:35 <armabuilder> No usage info for 'source'
05:35 <Lucifer> armabuilder: source
05:35 <armabuilder> My source can be found at http://buildbot.net/
05:35 <Lucifer> armabuilder: help status
05:35 <armabuilder> Usage: status [<which>] - List status of a builder (or all builders)
05:42 <Lucifer> armabuilder: force build linux-client test
05:42 <armabuilder> build #1 forced
05:42 <armabuilder> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
05:43 <Lucifer> armabuilder: notify 1
05:43 <armabuilder> try 'notify on|off <EVENT>'
05:43 <Lucifer> armabuilder: notify on 1
05:43 <armabuilder> try 'notify on|off <EVENT>'
05:43 <luke-jr> O.o
05:43 <Lucifer> armabuilder: help notify
05:43 <armabuilder> Usage: notify on|off|list [<EVENT>] ... - Notify me about build events.  event should be one or more of: 'started', 'finished', 'failed', 'success', 'exception', 'successToFailed', 'failedToSuccess'
05:43 <Lucifer> armabuilder: notify on finished
05:43 <armabuilder> The following events are being notified: ['finished']
05:45 <Lucifer> #seen BabyBug
05:45 <@armabot> Lucifer: BabyBug was last seen in #armagetron 2 days, 17 hours, and 35 seconds ago: <BabyBug> ...
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06:28 <armabuilder> build #1 of linux-client is complete: Failure [failed Distcheck Installcheck]  Build details are at http://waterfall.davefancella.com/builders/linux-client/builds/1
06:28 <luke-jr> :o
06:29 <luke-jr>         Couldn't initialize SDL: DirectFBCreate: Initialization error!
06:29 <luke-jr> lulz
06:29 <luke-jr> Why so serious, armabuilder?
06:32 <Lucifer> didn't realize it actually tried to run the program for installcheck
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06:52 <joda_bot> Lucifer: uhm, I did not really believe you'd be all for DRM ... just came to my mind like "Does Lucifer talk in favor of the general copyright?" ... but I think you perspective is more in line with Creative Commons than 70 years copyright acts ?
06:53 <Lucifer> yeah, I'm more in line with creative commons
06:55 <joda_bot> you*r*
06:56 <joda_bot> Lucifer: did you just start working on armabuilder again or was it a background project all the time ?
06:56 <Lucifer> background project all the time?
06:57 <luke-jr> eg, you've been working on it all year and it just started workign on IRC again
06:59 <joda_bot> luke-jr: yeah that pinpoints my question / idea
06:59 <joda_bot> Lucifer: just found your post
06:59 <joda_bot> Lucifer: volunteer for a windows build slave = ?
06:59 <Lucifer> someone who wants to run a buildslave for windows?
07:00 <joda_bot> Is it just the code, or do you need a machine on which the windows build is compiled ?
07:00 <Lucifer> machine for building
07:00 <Lucifer> automated builds, that is ;)
07:00 <Lucifer> I'm about to update the buildslave stuff to make it easier to setup and hopefully admin a buildslave
07:00 <joda_bot> hm, ok, doesn't sourceforge provide machines for that ?
07:01 <joda_bot> Lucifer: what dependices are required to run a windows buildslave
07:01 <joda_bot> hm, and also I guess it should be up 24/7 ?
07:01 <Lucifer> yeah, it should be up 24/7 if possible, but not required
07:01 <Lucifer> just up often enough that it can actually build
07:01 <Lucifer> you need twisted, python, and buildbot
07:02 <Lucifer> there are instructions on the buildbot site for setting up a buildslave to run as a service
07:02 <joda_bot> the other stuff is downloaded by default ?
07:02 <joda_bot> e.g. source code, distcc / gcc etc. win32 library dependices mingw ?
07:03 <joda_bot> "by default" -> automatically
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07:08 <Lucifer> hmmm, I don't quite remember how I set it up when I set it up before for windows
07:09 <joda_bot> Lucifer: but you had a working win32 builder before ?
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07:09 <Lucifer> yeah, but it was awhile ago
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07:10 <joda_bot> Lucifer: do you have the ability to split forum posts ?
07:11 <Lucifer> I don't
07:11 <joda_bot> This might need a split, I guess your post is the best cut. Do you agree ?
07:11 <joda_bot> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=204810#204810
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07:12 <joda_bot> hm, perhaps we should put z-man's approach in the wiki , if we have a consenus on that
07:12 <joda_bot> ?
07:12 <Lucifer> it looks like the thread has more or less reached the end of useful discussion to me
07:14 <luke-jr> joda_bot: FWIW, trademark and copyright/DRM are entirely different things
07:18 <luke-jr> epsy: FWIW, I pronounce "…" as "dot dot dot"
07:19 <epsy> heh, didn't expect you to reply to that one
07:19 <epsy> so monkey talked
07:20 <noob13> he's alive?
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07:21  * Lucifer wonders if there's a way for him to use the ubuntu buildbot initscript to only restart a particular buildbot
07:22 <Lucifer> ok, yay, now it's easier to setup a buildslave :)
07:29 <Lucifer> luke-jr: do you want to provide a buildslave now?
07:30 <joda_bot> Lucifer: I've just added a useless post on that name thread then :-)
07:30 <Lucifer> hehe, ok
07:30 <joda_bot> haha
07:30 <joda_bot> there ist one player online ?
07:30 <joda_bot> only one player on all servers ?
07:31 <joda_bot> we really need a smart IRC bot that can be dispatched to a server to talk to lonely souls like that :D
07:31 <joda_bot> oh ah ok ...
07:31 <epsy> @onlineplayers
07:31 <teabot> epsy: This data is 29 seconds old; , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , !GH!su93r!GH!, -=}ID< Sin, /dev/null, 808 STATE, >){wB|The Good, AI team, Anarchy~X|BPT, (1 more message)
07:31 <joda_bot> there are alot more people online just had a strange refresh of the list
07:31 <epsy> >.>
07:31 <epsy> on the forums?
07:31 <joda_bot> the forums just cut of after FA Devils rings
07:32 <epsy> I noticed that, it does that all the time
07:32 <joda_bot> I guess
07:32 <joda_bot> epsy: yeah
07:32 <luke-jr> Lucifer: I don't want to set it up, if you mean that. :p
07:32 <epsy> like, each time it starts polling servers again, the list is cleared
07:32 <Lucifer> oh man, I just made it like really easy
07:32 <Lucifer> do a svn co, install the buildbot package for the OS
07:33 <Lucifer> configure it hwoever it is (ubuntu is easy to configure :)  )
07:33 <joda_bot> epsy: oh my, you want to tell me that script thing uses a site global variable for the list, which gets cleared if another user calls the site ?
07:33 <Lucifer> edit a config file
07:33 <joda_bot> Lucifer: Windows != Ubuntu :D (I guess it will get evil) :D
07:33 <epsy> joda_bot, hmm, I can't read into guru3's mind
07:34 <Lucifer> joda_bot: yes, it will get evil, it wasn't easy to do when I did it
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07:34 <Lucifer> you need to svn co the buildbot stuff and look in the buildmaster at the build steps for windows
07:34 <joda_bot> epsy: you can read other people's minds *envious*
07:34 <Lucifer> and make sure it actually looks like it should work ;)
07:34 <epsy> :)
07:35 <joda_bot> Lucifer: I'm willing to give it a try, but I can't really invest much time on windows builds until may I guess ...
07:35 <luke-jr> Lucifer: does it make packages too?
07:35 <joda_bot> Lucifer: and I probably can't run a 24/7 setup
07:35 <joda_bot> #whoami
07:36 <joda_bot> #help
07:36 <joda_bot> hehe
07:36 <joda_bot> it ignored me :D
07:37 <joda_bot> epsy: does armabot respond to you?
07:37 <luke-jr> #ping
07:37 <epsy> #ping
07:37 <epsy> :/
07:37 <luke-jr> ]insult armabot
07:37 <ljrbot> armabot sucks
07:38 <luke-jr> … that was pathetic
07:39 <joda_bot> ]spread love and hug entering people
07:39 <ljrbot> joda_bot: Error: "spread" is not a valid command.
07:39 <joda_bot> :-)
07:39 <@armabot> armacommits: [tools-buildbot-trunk-work] r4 Added public_html stuff for buildmaster || [tools-buildbot-trunk-work] r3 Removed info directory || [tools-buildbot-trunk-work] r2 Made changes to make configuring buildslaves easier
07:39 <epsy> lol?!
07:39 <joda_bot> hmmmm
07:39 <joda_bot> Lucifer: did you lock armabot down ?
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07:40 <luke-jr> lulz
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07:40 <luke-jr> #op
07:40 <luke-jr> aw
07:40 <luke-jr> it lost op
07:40 <luke-jr> too late
07:40 <luke-jr> armabot: ljrbot says you suck
07:40 <luke-jr> #ping
07:40 <luke-jr> yeah, epic fail
07:40 <joda_bot> }ping
07:41 <joda_bot> ]ping
07:41 <joda_bot> ...
07:41 <ljrbot> pong
07:41 <joda_bot> cool, I said "..." faster than ljrbot :-)
07:41 <armabot> luke-jr: Error: I need to be opped to op someone.
07:41 <luke-jr> …
07:41 <luke-jr> no you didn't.
07:41 <armabot> pong
07:41 <joda_bot> #ping
07:41 <joda_bot> eheh, ok, it's just not reading the channel
07:42 <epsy> lol
07:42 <luke-jr> sigh
07:42 <luke-jr> ]y start theme=twg
07:42 <ljrbot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "]yandere" to join.
07:42 <joda_bot> ]die :D
07:42 <ljrbot> joda_bot: Error: "die" is not a valid command.
07:42 <armabot> armagetronad: davidfancella * r9162 /tools/buildbot/trunk/buildmaster/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Moved around some html stuff
07:42 <armabot> armagetronad: davidfancella * r9163 /tools/buildbot/trunk/buildmaster/public_html/armagetronad.css: Removed css file
07:42 <luke-jr> joda_bot: epsy play!
07:43 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
07:43 <luke-jr> :<
07:43 <epsy> ]die
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07:44 <ljrbot> There aren't enough players to start the Worm Game. Try again later.
07:44 <luke-jr> :<
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07:49 <epsy> bb
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07:54 <joda_bot> luke-jr: what's that yandre game anyway ?
08:01 <Lucifer> luke-jr: what OS is your VPS?
08:02  * Lucifer needs to think some more about how to organize builders
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08:41 <@armabot> armacommits: [tools-buildbot-trunk-work] r6 Removed css file || [tools-buildbot-trunk-work] r5 Moved around some html stuff
08:49 <joda_bot> Lucifer: didn't z-man crosscompile the Win32 Builds on linux?
09:02 <z-man> No.
09:03 <z-man> Crosscompiling only gets you so far. You can't debug properly, for example.
09:11 <joda_bot> z-man: so you use the Code::Blocks IDE to build ?
09:11 <z-man> yes.
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10:07 <Lucifer> I think cross-compiling is only really useful for automated builds
10:07 <Lucifer> even then, it only gets you so far, because automated builds that are cross-compiled can't have test suites run on them
10:07 <joda_bot> Lucifer: what's the difference to the build bot ?
10:07 <Lucifer> more or less what you make of it?
10:08 <Lucifer> you have to tell the build bot how to build something, so it can have different instructions for cross-compiling than it has for others
10:08 <joda_bot> eh ok, what is your intended use for armabuilder ?
10:08 <joda_bot> unit tests ? or nightly builds ?
10:08 <Lucifer> heh, I just posted on the forums on that topic
10:08 <joda_bot> ah ok
10:08 <Lucifer> both tests and nightly builds
10:08 <Lucifer> there are other benefits you get though
10:09 <Lucifer> I was just wondering when the last time make distcheck was successful
10:09 <Lucifer> having a buildbot can help us determine that
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10:11 <Lucifer> armabuilder: help force
10:11 <armabuilder> Usage: force build <which> <reason> - Force a build
10:11 <Lucifer> armabuilder: commands
10:11 <armabuilder> buildbot commands: commands, dance, destroy, excited, force, hello, help, join, last, leave, list, notify, source, status, stop, version, watch
10:11 <Lucifer> armabuilder: help destroy
10:11 <armabuilder> No usage info for 'destroy'
10:11 <Lucifer> armabuilder: destroy
10:11  * armabuilder readies phasers
10:11 <Lucifer> too many toys in this thing
10:11 <Lucifer> armabuilder: version
10:11 <armabuilder> buildbot-0.7.9 at your service
10:12 <Lucifer> armabuilder: watch
10:12 <armabuilder> try 'watch <builder>'
10:13 <Lucifer> armabuilder: force build linux-server b0.2.8
10:13 <armabuilder> build #15 forced
10:13 <armabuilder> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
10:13 <Lucifer> grrr
10:13 <Lucifer> armabuilder: stop 15
10:13 <armabuilder> try 'stop build WHICH <REASON>'
10:14 <joda_bot> heh ?
10:14 <Lucifer> armabuilder: stop build 15
10:14 <armabuilder> try 'stop build WHICH <REASON>'
10:14 <joda_bot> lol
10:14 <Lucifer> armabuilder: stop build 15 oops
10:14 <armabuilder> no such builder '15'
10:14 <Lucifer> armabuilder: stop build linux-server oops
10:14 <armabuilder> build 15 interrupted
10:14  * joda_bot thinks his peer bot armabuilder is a rebel :D
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10:40 <joda_bot> fonkay: hehe :-) saw you browsing the forums :D
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13:34 <BabyBug> hellooooooooo
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14:08 <Vanhayes> #tea
14:08 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
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15:58 <nsh22> hey everyone
16:04 <guru3> 'los
16:04 <guru3> CRAZY MAN WOOO
16:05 <nsh22> ???
16:05 <guru3> just being random :)
16:05 <nsh22> randomness s gud :P
16:05 <guru3> i'm trying to define rainfall
16:05 <nsh22> why?
16:06 <guru3> dissertation work
16:06 <nsh22> oh
16:06 <nsh22> question, i take it i just use ftp to add stuff to a vps server?
16:07 <guru3> or sftp/scp
16:08 <nsh22> ok
16:08 <guru3> sftp is almost exactly like ftp but goes over ssh so it's secured
16:08 <guru3> scp is like cp but over ssh so it's secured
16:08 <nsh22> oh...
16:10 <nsh22> i dont have scp... i dontthink
16:10 <guru3> using linux?
16:10 <nsh22> no
16:10 <nsh22> i will be soon tho
16:11 <guru3> for the server?
16:11 <nsh22> its lukes
16:11 <nsh22> so i think so
16:11 <guru3> ok
16:11 <nsh22> it sais its debian 4.0
16:11 <guru3> google putty
16:11 <guru3> they have a windows scp client
16:11 <nsh22> oh ok
16:12 <nsh22> hmmmm, should i trust this, it says its host key is not cached...
16:12 <nsh22> meh i trust luke
16:13 <nsh22> ...
16:13 <nsh22> now i need to go get scp i guess...
16:14 <guru3> gl
16:14 <nsh22> lol tanx
16:14 <BabyBug> scp isn't something you need to install on the server btw
16:15 <nsh22> ok
16:15 <BabyBug> Just get the client for windows and it'll work
16:15 <nsh22> well right now m trying to ACCESS the server...
16:15 <nsh22> andi have no clue how...
16:16 <BabyBug> I've never used windows so i'm no help sorry.
16:16 <nsh22> i should pay luke now i guess
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16:21 <BabyBug> Lucifer, What's the point of a buildbot?
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16:24 <joda_bot> nsh22: try winscp it's more user friendly if you're not used to commandline tools
16:24 <nsh22> o0 first i need to get on the friggin vps lol
16:24 <joda_bot> nsh22: huh ?
16:25 <nsh22> i havent been able to access my vps yet
16:26 <joda_bot> BabyBug: the build bot tests the source code if we messed up programming by compiling and running it automatically. it won't find all errors but forces developers to pay attention because it can show/detect some simple mistakes early
16:26 <joda_bot> nsh22: hm, if you've got an account and a password, you can directly access the vps with winscp
16:26 <joda_bot> it's just like a ftp client using ssh
16:26 <nsh22> ok
16:27 <joda_bot> and it has a gui :D
16:27 <nsh22> well i tried using my ftp client with ssh/sftp
16:27 <nsh22> and it didnt work so...
16:27 <joda_bot> nsh22: http://winscp.net/eng/docs/screenshots
16:27 <joda_bot> nsh22: you need the correct IP / hostname of your server :-)
16:28 <nsh22> i have it...
16:28 <joda_bot> +account and password
16:30 <joda_bot> nsh22: if you prefer to use firefox ... you can also use : https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/684
16:30 <nsh22> ok i got winscp
16:31 <nsh22> ffs
16:31 <joda_bot> hehe :-)
16:31 <joda_bot> ok
16:31 <nsh22> either luke gave me wrong pass or my partner changed it already...
16:31 <joda_bot> Just didn't think about FireFTP at first
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16:31 <joda_bot> no idea
16:33 <nsh22> UGH!
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16:37 <Vanhayes> #tea
16:37 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
16:39  * nsh22 is away: 
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16:47 <BabyBug> Hello epsy =)
16:48 <epsy> hi
16:51 <BabyBug> is zman started armagetron, who started the fork of armagetronad?
16:51 <BabyBug> s/is/if/
16:51 <joda_bot> BabyBug: guru3 did
16:51 <epsy> luci, tank and luke afaik
16:51 <joda_bot> :D
16:51 <guru3> errr
16:51 <guru3> me and marrow
16:51 <joda_bot> atleast he was the most prominent person (from my perspective) :D
16:52 <BabyBug> who's marrow?
16:52 <guru3> someone who's no longer around
16:52 <StickyNoob> im sparticus
16:54 <joda_bot> guru3: what was iF ReGeXiTs part ?
16:54 <joda_bot> he's atleast one of the first forum members :)
16:56 <guru3> he did the GLL
16:56 <guru3> also rain the... name escapes me servers
16:57 <epsy> GLL?
16:57 <guru3> global ladder leauge
16:57 <joda_bot> Global Ladder League
16:57 <joda_bot> :D
16:57 <guru3> he was the guy i was talking to when i started the forums
16:57 <epsy> was that only for armagetron or .. ?
16:57 <joda_bot> used a master server to monitor player online activity and also combined multiple server stats into one huge db
16:57 <joda_bot> armagetronad
16:58 <joda_bot> but the code is lost afaik
16:58 <guru3> it was version independent
16:58 <epsy> it's outdated anyway isn't it?
16:58 <guru3> he pulled the var/ files off of an http
16:58 <joda_bot> iF always liked to code in ASM and modify binaries :D
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16:58 <guru3> and used it to make stats across servers
16:58 <guru3> that he did
16:58 <joda_bot> epsy: I guess it was 0.2.8 compatible
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16:59 <joda_bot> just read the old ladder.log format
16:59 <joda_bot> wb g4p
16:59 <guru3> yeah
16:59 <g4p> hi
16:59 <guru3> old history
16:59 <joda_bot> g4p: können wir dir irgendwie helfen ?
16:59 <guru3> irc he was the guy who came up with negative breaking and double-binding
17:00 <guru3> *iirc
17:00 <joda_bot> hm, we perhaps should include his name somewhere in the former contributors ?
17:00 <g4p> ne^^
17:00 <joda_bot> g4p: ok
17:01 <guru3> he was into the community side of things, never did anything directly with the code
17:04 <joda_bot> guru3: ehh, the map editor ?
17:04 <guru3> still technically commuity
17:04 <guru3> *community
17:04 <joda_bot> guru3: he just did not contribute to the source code base .... I agree with that
17:05 <joda_bot> but I guess the reason was that he always liked to use his self-coded propertary libraries on windows
17:05 <guru3> yeah
17:05 <joda_bot> he could not have used them in armagetron without publishing the code
17:05 <guru3> he was one of the really impressive community people
17:06 <guru3> only clans these days
17:07  * joda_bot thinks guru3 sounds like missing the "good old days" when he was young :-P
17:07 <guru3> it's true though
17:07 <guru3> there's no single person doing an armagetron fansite
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17:08 <BabyBug> define fansite
17:08 <guru3> website semi-regularly updated with information about armagetron
17:09 <joda_bot> playfortress blog :-)
17:09 <joda_bot> they even got an invitation from a news site to rant on the game
17:09 <BabyBug> guru3, in fairness, there isn't alot of information to regulary update such a fansite with
17:09 <guru3> "they" -> group of people
17:09 <guru3> the old guys made stuff up
17:09 <guru3> iceman had player profiles
17:10 <Vanhayes> whatever happened to iceman?
17:10 <guru3> it's a long story that can be summed up with 'no one really knows'
17:10 <Vanhayes> ah, i see
17:10 <Vanhayes> is his site still up at least?
17:11 <guru3> angel runs a mirror of it
17:12 <BabyBug> any progress with a phpbb3 theme?
17:13 <guru3> haven't touched it since i made those screenshots
17:13 <guru3> (that's copying the existing one)
17:13 <guru3> and nothing besides a mockup on a new theme
17:13 <joda_bot> BabyBug: lack is taking a week off to get a fresh perspective the next time ... and I've posted on armagetron.co.uk to attract more attention and helpers
17:13 <BabyBug> i take it those screenshots are on the forums?
17:14 <guru3> of course
17:14  * BabyBug should really read the forums
17:14 <guru3> properly ignored and without feedback
17:15 <BabyBug> even though i don't use the forums, i don't see anything wrong with the current design. I like it's simplicity and don't see a reason to change it
17:15 <guru3> aparently the whole thing is getting stale
17:15 <joda_bot> BabyBug: just think about what would make you use the forums :D
17:15 <BabyBug> joda_bot, nothing. i don't like forums :P
17:16 <BabyBug> I mainly don't read the arma forums because i never know where to find anything
17:16 <joda_bot> ahhh :D
17:16 <BabyBug> For example, i have no idea which forum to look into to find these screenshots for example
17:16 <BabyBug> i said for example twice.. >.<
17:17 <guru3> oh yeah joda_bot
17:17 <guru3> what do you think would be a good split point for that thread?
17:17 <BabyBug> Can anyone give me a link to that thread please? :)
17:17 <guru3> actually
17:17 <joda_bot> guru3: just either cut Lucifer's post in half below his comment to me... or just split above his post ?
17:17 <guru3> there's a link to it on the mainsite
17:17 <BabyBug> ah
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17:17 <guru3> whch of his posts?
17:18 <joda_bot> guru3: I put the link into my post ?
17:18 <guru3> i'm confused now :(
17:18 <joda_bot> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=204810#204810
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17:19 <guru3> oh i'm not talkinga bout that thread
17:19 <guru3> i'm talking about where to split the modest proposal thread
17:19 <joda_bot> guru3: ah ok ...
17:19 <BabyBug> Am i the only one who doesn't like the design by lack? :|
17:19 <guru3> i'm not thrilled with it
17:20 <joda_bot> guru3:  http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=204739#204739 here ?
17:20 <joda_bot> add a post linking to discussion about website look&feel
17:21 <BabyBug> It just seems so "ew"...and i know that's not very helpful but i'm crap at offer suggestions for design
17:21 <joda_bot> hm or above sinewavs http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=204440#204440
17:21 <joda_bot> no idea
17:22 <guru3> i'd agree to that
17:22 <guru3> now where does it belong...
17:23 <BabyBug> I started looking for the thread in armagetron network...so i say there!
17:23 <joda_bot> amragetron general too ?
17:23 <guru3> i put it in 'this system'
17:24 <joda_bot> guru3: then move the modest proposal too ? *thinking*
17:24 <guru3> nah because that has to do more with everything
17:24 <joda_bot> but perhaps leave a link to the new post there for a while... otherwise noone will find it :D
17:24 <guru3> and specifically about how we communicate in general
17:24 <joda_bot> hm ok
17:24 <joda_bot> I'd say you should bump both posts (if that's not done automatically)
17:25 <joda_bot> and of course link them ... btw. are you the only person with moderation / split rights ?
17:25 <guru3> pretty much yeah
17:25 <joda_bot> guru3: oh, what about that hammer time thing on the wiki ?
17:25 <joda_bot> anyway to fix it ? :D
17:26 <guru3> is it broken?
17:26 <joda_bot> no it's nagging me
17:26 <BabyBug> btw guru3, you're screenshots...If you replaced the header with "Forums, Topics, Posts, Last post in it for a lighter colour...maybe complete white....Would look better imo :)
17:26 <joda_bot> BabyBug: contribute :D
17:26 <BabyBug> joda_bot, what?
17:26 <joda_bot> BabyBug: change it and post it
17:26 <joda_bot> :-)
17:26 <guru3> i have no idea what screenshot you're talking about BabyBug
17:26 <BabyBug> http://forums.armagetronad.net/download.php?id=9958
17:26 <BabyBug> that one
17:27 <joda_bot> huh ?
17:27 <guru3> that's just the default phpbb theme there
17:27 <guru3> for that bit
17:27 <guru3> all i changed was the header
17:27 <BabyBug> exactly!
17:27 <guru3> yes
17:27 <guru3> because doing more was more work
17:27 <guru3> that i didn't want to do at the time
17:28 <BabyBug> I know, but i don't see the point in straying from the default theme too much. I like it.
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17:28 <joda_bot> guru3: from my perspective you don't have to do it all by yourself  :-)
17:28 <joda_bot> BabyBug: I have some idea on how to make it less confusing ... for example things like Groups can go to the members page etc.
17:29 <guru3> you want to setup your own phpbb3 and work on modding phpbb3's subsilver to match the current theme?
17:29 <joda_bot> there are quite some links and informations which just confuse first timers ... and we can always have a simple theme for outsiders and an advanced detailed theme for which registered users can pick if unhappy
17:29 <BabyBug> guru3, Did you post a tar of the iamges after? :P
17:30 <guru3> no
17:30 <joda_bot> guru3: hm, I won't setup anything until we have agreed on a design and have some kind of repository for the theme
17:30 <guru3> repository hell :/
17:30 <joda_bot> I don't want the work to lunger in the background without anyone else contribution
17:31 <joda_bot> guru3: yeah I agree, why not put it into a subfolder of the www thing we have on SVN(?
17:31 <guru3> how does phpbb's copyright of their theme clash with that?
17:32 <joda_bot> guru3: never checked ...
17:32 <joda_bot> I hope that the subsilver is open sourced like the main code
17:32 <guru3> well i imagine ti is
17:32 <guru3> but ive just got no idea
17:32 <joda_bot> otherwise I'd get the neccessary permissions, but first we need a plan :D
17:33 <guru3> id just be happy with a phpbb3 port of the current theme
17:33 <guru3> so that i could upgrade the forums
17:33 <guru3> and stop worrying about security so much
17:33 <joda_bot> guru3: uhm ok
17:33 <guru3> because uh, we're out of date
17:33 <guru3> *whistle*
17:34 <BabyBug> I'd try to port it! as atm i sit around doing nothing all day....but unfortunately i know nothing about it
17:34 <joda_bot> BabyBug: have you ever helped new players ?
17:35 <joda_bot> BabyBug: you might want to rework the FAQ in the wiki ... it's questions are not really that newbie friendly
17:36 <BabyBug> :|
17:36 <BabyBug> that's a big list of faq's
17:36 <joda_bot> yeah and it's kind of a bad one too..
17:37 <joda_bot> the answers need to longer than the questions :-) more positive ... I think it nearly requires a restructuring / rewrite to some extent
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18:35 <nsh22> herro
18:37 <nsh22> ugh, im trying to install linux on my shitty ass comp downstairs and its being retarded
18:46 <nsh22> anyone know how to fix this : when i tell ubuntu to start/install, it installs the kernel then the comp restarts...
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18:47 <zurd> hai
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18:47 <nsh22> :P
18:47 <nsh22> hai
18:47 <zurd> #q
18:47 <@armabot> zurd: Quote #61: "<MrBougo> amragetron p2p client, with a game inside and both would interact: you get a better ratio when you kill people, stay in the zone to keep downloading! the first team who downloaded the whole film wins" (added by epsy at 03:39 PM, October 27, 2007)
18:47 <nsh22> zurd: you been able to get on the vps yet?
18:47 <zurd> yes, talk on msn
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19:04 <nsh22> #r
19:04 <nsh22> #roulette
19:04 <armabot> nsh22: *click*
19:10 <akira_arma> #tea
19:10 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
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19:17 <epsy> http://imgs.xkcd.com/blag/audio_preview_2.png
19:18 <zurd> #roulette
19:18 <armabot> zurd: *click*
19:31 <epsy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WwioPVeedo
19:32 <BabyBug> youtube fails
19:32 <BabyBug> i can barely watch any music videos :(
19:32 <BabyBug> stupid licenses
19:32 <epsy> see descr
19:42 <luke-jr> Lucifer: I can make you a VPS with mostly any OS
19:42 <BabyBug> luke-jr, link to your vps' again please
19:43 <luke-jr> BabyBug: the prices page?
19:43 <luke-jr> http://lightfoot.dashjr.org/?page=vps
19:43 <BabyBug> yes :)
19:43 <BabyBug> ty :)
19:44 <BabyBug> luke-jr, # ** More than 1 IP requires standard ARIN justification <-- What does that mean? :|
19:45 <luke-jr> BabyBug: you can't just buy IPs, you need to have a reason for them
19:45 <luke-jr> ARIN won't allocate IPs without justification
19:45 <luke-jr> everyone dealing with IPs has this limitation
19:46 <BabyBug> Oh right yeh ok, The ARIN confused me :x
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19:49 <BabyBug> If you offer EU vps' at some point i assume they'll be the same price?
19:49 <luke-jr> probably, yeah
19:50 <luke-jr> I'm looking for a dedi there
19:50 <BabyBug> okies
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20:06 <joda_bot> luke-jr: try hetzner :D
20:06 <luke-jr> wtf?
20:07 <epsy> as provider
20:07 <epsy> wrtl uses that
20:07 <luke-jr> link?
20:08 <epsy> @g hetzner
20:08 <teabot> epsy: http://www.hetzner.co.za/ - Hetzner - Trusted in Hosting
20:08 <joda_bot> http://www.hetzner.com/
20:08 <joda_bot> co.za is south africa
20:08 <joda_bot> I guess you might want to use google translations to read the german page
20:09 <epsy> heh
20:09 <joda_bot> http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hetzner.de&sl=de&tl=en&hl=de&ie=UTF-8
20:12 <luke-jr> I'd need 2x my 1 GB VPS plan to afford that :x
20:16 <BabyBug> #n9
20:16 <armabot> BabyBug: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (0/16):
20:16 <BabyBug> why does no one ever play there :@
20:17 <joda_bot> luke-jr: did you check the root servers ?
20:17 <joda_bot> luke-jr: there is a root server with unlimited transfer volume afaik
20:18 <BabyBug> truly unlimited? and no crappy sla policy?
20:19 <joda_bot> BabyBug: I can a friend of mine, he uses it
20:19 <joda_bot> I can *ask*
20:20 <BabyBug> The last dedi i had, had unlimited usage, but if you used the full connection for more than x% of the month, they dropped it from gbit to 100mbit...it was lame
20:22 <luke-jr> joda_bot: so?
20:22 <joda_bot> ah ok there is a limit
20:22 <luke-jr> joda_bot: transfer is not usually a problem
20:23 <luke-jr> memory is
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20:24 <luke-jr> nsh22: I need to run; how goes it?
20:24 <joda_bot> luke-jr: traffic is for free*. if you use more than  1.000 GB/month you connection is limited to 10 MBit/s. Optional you can pay 0,09 € for each additional GB to get a permanent bandwidth of 100 MBit/s.
20:24 <nsh22> luke-jr: nb, i owes you $29 right?
20:25 <luke-jr> nsh22: $19 I thought? I forget and gotta run. no rush if you're unsure
20:25 <nsh22> luke-jr: your right, my bad lol
20:25 <nsh22> ill send it as soon as i work it out with zurd
20:25 <nsh22> pce
20:38 <BabyBug> mmmmmm eggy bread
20:44 <nsh22> ???
20:44 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50870DA6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron
20:44 <nsh22> hey z
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20:45 <BabyBug> nsh22, eggy bread!
20:45 <animuson> is there a way to send a message to a single player using a command? rather than /msg
20:45 <nsh22> BabyBug: has lz returnedever sonce her "episode"
20:45 <nsh22> liz*
20:45 <z-man> message_player or somesuch.
20:45 <BabyBug> animuson, PLAYER_MESSAGE?
20:45 <BabyBug> nsh22, yes, lol
20:46 <BabyBug> and it was hardly an episode :P
20:46 <nsh22> lol
20:46 <nsh22> btw, eggy bread = french toast?
20:47 <BabyBug> it's called eggy bread! :@
20:47 <nsh22> o0
20:48 <nsh22> ive heard of egg bread
20:48 <nsh22> challah (jewish)
20:48 <BabyBug> It's the same as french toast
20:48 <BabyBug> But it's called eggy bread...Not french toast
20:48 <BabyBug> french toast is a silly name
20:48 <nsh22> oh
20:49 <nsh22> are you anti french now lol?
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20:49 <BabyBug> I've always been anti french :s
20:49 <nsh22> lol
20:49 <joda_bot> eggy bread = eggs on toast ?
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20:49 <nsh22> at least you dont have to live with an entire provence of them :P
20:49 <BabyBug> eggy bread is bread dipped in eggs
20:49 <BabyBug> and then fried in a pan
20:50 <nsh22> FRENCH TOAST!
20:50 <joda_bot> BabyBug: OH noooooo, that ruins the bread
20:50 <joda_bot> poor poor little bread
20:50 <BabyBug> WHAT?!
20:50 <nsh22> lol
20:50 <nsh22> its good
20:50 <BabyBug> joda_bot, go die
20:50 <joda_bot> slaughtered and fried at the same time
20:50 <nsh22> i add cinnamon, sugar and vannilla to the egg mixture
20:50 <joda_bot> sugar ?!?!
20:50 <nsh22> try it next tieme
20:50 <joda_bot> ARGH!
20:51 <nsh22> ]jimp
20:51 <ljrbot> nsh22 just jizzed in his pants
20:51 <nsh22> it ssoo good
20:51 <joda_bot> no ... I bake my own bread without sugar :-) and it tastes excellent if it comes out of the oven :-)
20:51 <nsh22> ok that came out wrong but anyway
20:51 <nsh22> oh no, i would never use homemade bread for french toast
20:51 <nsh22> just plain storebought
20:52 <nsh22> and i dont adfd sugar to bread (well... i do for the yeast to eat)
20:52 <BabyBug> joda_bot, dip the baked bread in beaten eggs!
20:52 <nsh22> lol
20:53 <joda_bot> BabyBug: I don't like eggs that much .. they are only acceptable in waffle or cake :-) ... Eggs should not be wrapped around bread :-D
20:58 <nsh22> eggs are used in  brioche
20:59 <BabyBug> joda_bot, you don't wrap egg! You beat the middle of the eggs really really hard...and then dip the bread in it
20:59 <epsy> and in throwing them on BabyBug as well
20:59 <joda_bot> nsh22: looks like a cake-variation
20:59 <nsh22> ... do i need to make a video
20:59 <BabyBug> epsy, Do you want to be kicked off a cliff?
21:00 <joda_bot> BabyBug: sure, but I don't dip any bread into uncooked eggs :D
21:00 <epsy> Sure!
21:00 <nsh22> joda_bot: no, its bread, but with egg yolks and buter and mmmmmmmm
21:00 <BabyBug> ...
21:00 <epsy> <3
21:00 <BabyBug> *pouts*
21:00 <BabyBug> Get working on eevents you slacker!
21:00 <BabyBug> :P
21:01 <epsy> fff.armagetron0.co.uk
21:01 <epsy> but remove that 0
21:01 <epsy> fff.armagetron.co.uk
21:01 <Vanhayes> #tea
21:01 <joda_bot> nsh22: it's a classic yeast/barm receipee
21:02 <BabyBug> z-man is catching you up on points epsy!
21:02 <nsh22> joda_bot: what is?
21:02 <epsy> Onoz! Onoz! Onozen!
21:02 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (7/32): Aiphaton, free kill (dlh@generalconsumption.org), opew, power, stax, ß|AoS|, ~|DS|~AshitakA
21:02 <epsy> ok I go back to wirk on arma
21:02 <epsy> :D
21:02 <BabyBug> :D
21:02 <nsh22> can i work on arma?
21:02 <nsh22> :D
21:02 <epsy> you can
21:03 <joda_bot> epsy: the page takes quite some time to load :-)
21:03 <epsy> the the bg is giant
21:03 <nsh22> joda_bot: your comp just fails :P
21:03 <epsy> but you can use it as wallpaper, like me :)
21:03 <joda_bot> :-)
21:03 <nsh22> what will the site be eventuially?
21:04 <epsy> It's coming, soon
21:04 <nsh22> ....
21:04 <nsh22> what will it be?
21:04 <epsy> ;)
21:04 <epsy> there will be what I'll put on it
21:04  * nsh22 smacks his head
21:04  * nsh22 needs to expel waste
21:05  * nsh22 is away: hi
21:05 <epsy> why would I post a teaser wallpaper if it's then to reveal everything?
21:05 -!- arrow [n=euclid@adsl-dyn40.78-99-184.t-com.sk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
21:08 <Vanhayes> http://beta.armagetronad.net/?product=client&branch=Any&hideold=0&os=Windows&arch=&bitness=_64&format=EXE#download
21:08 <epsy> no direct links please
21:08 <Vanhayes> how come there is no more exe for 0.3, or anything else up there?
21:08 <dlh> choose 32 bitness
21:08 <nsh22> what you mean no directlinks?
21:09 <Vanhayes> ha, duh
21:09 <Vanhayes> thanks
21:09  * nsh22 is back (gone 00:04:10)
21:09 <epsy> ...
21:11 <Vanhayes> also was wondering (if anyone knows off hand) if the glancing from 0.3 and 0.2.8 are ever going to be options like some suggested
21:12  * BabyBug wishes people would just accept the 0.3 glancing *growls*
21:13 <dlh> 0.3 is terrible.
21:13 <dlh> glancing that is
21:13 <BabyBug> it is not!
21:13 <dlh> it was committed by accident :)
21:13 <epsy> it is not, but I agree players should have their choice
21:13 <Vanhayes> i like the glances from 0.3, thats the reason i wanted to dl 0.3 on this pc
21:14 <BabyBug> dlh, That's proof that not all accidents are bad :)
21:14 <Vanhayes> i was just hoping it doesnt get forgotten when a new release comes out
21:15 <nsh22> how do i set up a server on a vps?
21:16 <BabyBug> what kind of server?
21:16 <nsh22> arma
21:16 <BabyBug> is "download the source and compile" to vague?
21:16 <nsh22> erm....
21:16 <nsh22> ok
21:16 <nsh22> i has thge source (i think)...
21:17 <nsh22> how would i compile it on the server (would putty work?)
21:19 <z-man> joda_bot: I'm not worried about compile times too much. As long as they don't grow quicker than my computers get faster, that is :)
21:20 <joda_bot> z-man: hm ok
21:22 <epsy> nsh22, read the readme, it can always help you and us
21:23 <nsh22> ... ill just ask zurd how he did it
21:24 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft's r8689 build needs to be marked obsolete
21:24 <luke-jr> nsh22: the control panel includes, and Zurd already installed 0.2.8-sty+ct HEAD
21:25 <nsh22> where is the control panel?
21:25 <luke-jr> nsh22: adduser <name> && ~/setup-newuser <name> <service name> <version> && passwd <name>
21:25 <luke-jr> https://<your IP>/aa-admin/
21:26 <nsh22> ahok ty
21:26 <nsh22> i tried to make a new user, but neal was already teaken...
21:26 <luke-jr> it was? O.o
21:26 <nsh22> yeah...
21:27 <nsh22> ill just sign on as root and look around
21:27 <nsh22> i gots warnings...
21:27 <luke-jr> ?
21:27 <luke-jr> PM
21:30 <nsh22> brb, dinner
21:38 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r9164 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases.php: mark old build as obsolete
21:38 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
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21:58 <nsh22> back
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22:31  * zurd afk
22:32 <epsy> zurd, http://www.bitches-irc.net/awaymsgs.html
22:32  * BabyBug agrees!!
22:33 <nsh22> it wasnt an away message
22:33 <epsy> still a message we don't have to see
22:34 <nsh22> actually...
22:35 <nsh22> if he didnt say that, i might ask him something stupid that i might not have otherwise :P
22:35 <epsy> then he will be clever and read it later
22:35 <epsy> and for that, there's /away
22:35 <nsh22> ...
22:36 <BabyBug> Away Messages are good. As long as they're not announced to an entire channel.
22:36 <epsy> BabyBug sums it up
22:36 <BabyBug> Any decent client is capable of reading the thing you type with /away <reason here>
22:37 <nsh22> like this?
22:37  * nsh22 is away: hi
22:37 <epsy> no
22:37 <epsy> you just
22:38 <epsy> [23:36] <BabyBug>: [...] announced [it] to an entire channel.
22:38 -!- Pathetique [n=chatzill@adsl-99-153-140-239.dsl.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net] has joined #armagetron
22:39 <BabyBug> nsh22, /set away_show_message off
22:39 -!- nsh22 [n=neal@unaffiliated/nsh22] has quit ["gud bye"]
22:39 <BabyBug> or that
22:39 <epsy> :)
22:44 -!- nsh22 [n=neal@unaffiliated/nsh22] has joined #armagetron
22:46 <nsh22> http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/11_01/sarcophL0411_468x1385.jpg <=== i have to make that out of cake :P
22:47 <MrBougo> haha nsh22
22:47 <nsh22> :P
22:47 <nsh22> it will be fun
22:48 <nsh22> it will be about 2 feet long by 1 1/2 feet wide
22:48 <nsh22> covered in fondaant
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22:50 <MrBougo> lol
22:50 <nsh22> do you know what fondant is?
22:57 <MrBougo> nsh22, depends
22:57 <MrBougo> it has several meanings in french
22:57 <nsh22> ... its used forcovering cakes
22:58 <nsh22> atleast the fondant im talking about
22:59 <MrBougo> glaze?
22:59 <nsh22> no
22:59 <MrBougo> oh nvm
22:59 <MrBougo> okay found it
22:59 <nsh22> lol
22:59 <nsh22> @gtfy MrBougo fondant for cakes
22:59 <MrBougo> yeah that stuff cake makers use on sponge cake to make it look like all sorts of things
22:59 <teabot> MrBougo: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=fondant%20for%20cakes
23:00 <nsh22> yea
23:00 <nsh22> used mainly on weddinbg cakes
23:00 <MrBougo> I never had a fondant-covered cake :<
23:00 <MrBougo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fondant.JPG
23:00 <MrBougo> lol awesome
23:00 <nsh22> yeah, that stuff
23:01 <nsh22> ive done some cakes with it before
23:01  * nsh22 goes searching for one
23:01 <MrBougo> that one cake is awesome
23:01 <MrBougo> detail on the fabric
23:01 <MrBougo> wtf.
23:02 <nsh22> http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk26/nsh22/Sphinx.jpg
23:02 <nsh22> my firast fondant ckae
23:02 <nsh22> :P
23:03 <MrBougo> that's tiny
23:03 <MrBougo> because you wanted to hide details? :p
23:03 <MrBougo> it looks fun
23:03 <nsh22> no... i dont know why the piccame out so tiny
23:04 <MrBougo> hehe np
23:04 <MrBougo> I got the idea :)
23:04 <nsh22> its friggin messy shit... you need to cover everything with either cornstartch or powdered sugar
23:05 <nsh22> btw that image was slightly photoshopped cuz the pic really highlighted all the starch on it...
23:05 <nsh22> but other than that
23:06 <Pathetique> Anyone here know how I can use PHP to remove certain text from players.txt so I can show what users are connected to a server?
23:10  * Pathetique taps microphone
23:10 <nsh22> lol
23:11 <Pathetique> Is this thing on?
23:11 <nsh22> nope
23:11  * Pathetique senses a rtfm from someone coming soon...
23:11 -!- G5 [n=G5@cl-506.dus-01.de.sixxs.net] has quit []
23:11 <BabyBug> lol Pathetique, sure, shouldn't be too hard to do :)
23:11  * nsh22 stands swinging a cut cord 
23:11 <Pathetique> What function would I ue?
23:12 <Pathetique> use*
23:12 <dlh> take the first 16 characters of the line, and trim the whitespace at thened
23:12 <dlh> the end*
23:12 <Pathetique> I see.
23:12 <Pathetique> I figured that much out, thouhg.
23:12 <Pathetique> :P
23:15 <BabyBug> Pathetique, you can use substr to get the first 16 characters
23:16 <Pathetique> I see.
23:16 <Pathetique> I wouldn't be able to use include("filehere.extension"); for it then, right?
23:17 <epsy> seriousely, only use include if it's going to be php
23:17 <epsy> really
23:17 <Pathetique> lawl
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23:17 <epsy> I once did that with images
23:17 <epsy> and it once interpreted it as php, somehow
23:17 <Pathetique> It spit out text, right?
23:17 <epsy> no
23:17 <Pathetique> oic
23:17 <epsy> I had set correct mimetypes
23:18 <epsy> but it spew out an error
23:18 <Pathetique> ah
23:18 <epsy> (thus some text as an image)
23:19 <epsy> so don't do it
23:19 <Pathetique> Indeed.
23:19 <epsy> actually, on my own comp it worked fine
23:19 <epsy> be it found a <? on the server, apparently
23:20 <epsy> and tried to interpret the rest as php, heh
23:22 <Pathetique> you should have turned off the short tag thing
23:24 <zurd> away msg are da bomb, your all just jelous
23:24 <BabyBug> you're*
23:24 <zurd> exactly
23:26 <Pathetique> lolol
23:26 <BabyBug> armabot should have a plugin to auto kick people who announce they're away
23:27 <BabyBug> The first time they just get a warning. Second time, KICK!
23:27 <nsh22> make one then
23:27 <Pathetique> BabyBug: #roulette
23:27 <BabyBug> #roulette
23:27 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
23:27  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
23:27 <BabyBug> :)
23:27 <Pathetique> LOL
23:27 <Pathetique> #roulette
23:28 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
23:28  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
23:28 <Pathetique> phew.
23:28 <BabyBug> It has no ops...
23:28 <nsh22> Pathetique: ]r
23:28 <nsh22> ]r
23:28 <ljrbot> nsh22: *click*
23:28 <Pathetique> nty
23:28 <nsh22> ]r
23:28 <ljrbot> nsh22: *click*
23:28 <nsh22> ]r
23:28 <ljrbot> nsh22: *click*
23:28 <Pathetique> ]r
23:28 <nsh22> ]r
23:28 <ljrbot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
23:28 <Pathetique> ]r
23:28  * ljrbot reloads and spins the chambers.
23:28 <ljrbot> nsh22: *click*
23:28 <ljrbot> Pathetique: *click*
23:28 <Pathetique> LOLSPAM
23:28 <BabyBug> stop spamming :|
23:28 <nsh22> ]hug babybug
23:28 <ljrbot> nsh22 hugs babybug because they like them
23:29 <BabyBug> ]ignore nsh22
23:29 <Pathetique> ]alias add whofarted say $randomNick farted!
23:29 <ljrbot> Pathetique: The operation succeeded.
23:29 <Pathetique> ]whofarted
23:29 <ljrbot> Pathetique: Error: "say" is not a valid command.
23:29 <Pathetique> ffs.
23:29 <nsh22> why you ignore me?
23:29 <Pathetique> ]alias add whofarted echo say $randomNick farted!
23:29 <ljrbot> Pathetique: The operation succeeded.
23:29 <Pathetique> ]whofarted
23:29 <ljrbot> say Lucifer farted!
23:29 <nsh22> ]whofarted
23:29 <ljrbot> say g4p farted!
23:29 <Pathetique> LOL
23:29 <BabyBug> nsh22, One good reason to ignore you would be the fact you're almost more annoying than ivantis.
23:29 <Pathetique> ]alias add whofarted echo $randomNick farted!
23:29 <ljrbot> Pathetique: The operation succeeded.
23:29 <nsh22> BabyBug: now thats just mean
23:29 <Pathetique> L. O. L. @BabyBug
23:29  * nsh22 goes and cries
23:30 <BabyBug> and an emo
23:30 <nsh22> lol
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23:34 <nsh22> luke-jr: umm, the server you added to my vps... i cant edit the server_info
23:34 <Pathetique> Then don't bother with it.
23:34 <Pathetique> Make a new file
23:35 <Pathetique> info.cfg, and use that instead.
23:35 <Pathetique> lol
23:35 <nsh22> ... its using his cp so...
23:35 <Pathetique> oic.
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23:38 <zurd> shit i am so sorry
23:38 <Pathetique> Why?
23:39 <zurd> ohh, ok, it banned before it showed
23:39 <nsh22> ?
23:39 <zurd> i have about 2 pages of results on my clipbored
23:39 <Pathetique> What, did you draw a billion :O<=================8's or something>?
23:39 <nsh22> oh you pasted something and it kicked :p
23:39 <BabyBug> Lucifer, ping armabot! :P
23:40 <nsh22> #ping
23:40 <armabot> pong
23:40 <Pathetique> #king
23:40 <armabot> kong
23:40 <Pathetique> :D
23:40 <nsh22> #thing
23:40 <armabot> thong
23:40 <nsh22> :P
23:40 <zurd> #ming
23:40 <zurd> ?
23:40 <armabot> mong
23:40 <zurd> :o
23:40 <nsh22> #phyhgftdfing
23:40 <nsh22> aw
23:40 <Pathetique> that was retarded.
23:40 <nsh22> i should stop
23:41 <zurd> phling
23:41 <zurd> #fling
23:41 <nsh22> ok enough spam zurd
23:41 <zurd> #q
23:41 <Pathetique> rsly
23:41 <zurd> meh
23:41 <Pathetique> srsly*
23:41 <Pathetique> #finger
23:41 <armabot> zurd: Quote #15: "You see a body ripped appart, blood splatter on the ceiling, gore all over. Tell me, would you really suspect that worm making a run for it toward the door at 5 cm per minute? No you would not! - philippeqc" (added by n54 at 08:09 PM, April 25, 2006)
23:42 <Pathetique> #finger
23:42 <Pathetique> wtf
23:42 <Pathetique> there used to be one someone added where armabot would be like "/me orgasm"
23:42 <Pathetique> lololol
23:42 <nsh22> #llist
23:42 <nsh22> #list
23:42 <armabot> nsh22: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Format, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Insult, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Nickometer, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
23:42 <BabyBug> It was removed :P
23:43 <Pathetique> By that killjoy epsy, right?
23:43 <BabyBug> No idea
23:43 <nsh22> #weather innisfil
23:43 <armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Innisfil, Innisfil, Ontario is 50.7°F (6:43 PM EDT on March 16, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 29%. Dew Point: 19.4°F. Pressure: 30.21 in 1022.9 hPa (Falling).
23:43 <BabyBug> It was only need so i could cheat on lizmatic 8-)
23:43 <nsh22> lol
23:43 <zurd> armabuilder: status
23:43 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle, last build 62136 secs ago: failed Distcheck Installcheck
23:43 <armabuilder> linux-server: idle, last build 46784 secs ago: build successful
23:44 <Pathetique> armasexer: status
23:44 <BabyBug> Oh there's an armabuilder :|
23:44 <nsh22> zurd: how come your servers work and mine fail :(
23:44 <Pathetique> Cause you're gay. :P
23:44 <nsh22> im not very happy at the moment to be honest
23:45 <nsh22> so...
23:45 <Pathetique> LOL
23:45 <zurd> luke should know
23:45 <zurd> =\
23:45 <nsh22> . . .
23:45 <BabyBug> nsh22, what problem are you having?
23:45 <nsh22> well.. when i edit sever_info through lukes cp, it says some error
23:45 <nsh22> meh, ill deal with it tomorrow
23:46 <nsh22> i gots hw to do
23:46 <Pathetique> nsh22: why don't you
23:46 <Pathetique> change the friggin settings.cfg
23:46 <Pathetique> instead?
23:46 <nsh22> YOU do it then :P
23:46 <BabyBug> Pathetique, that would be hard :)
23:46 <Pathetique> LOL yeah it would be hard.
23:48 <zurd> whats the comand to change a user's password using debian 4.0 server?
23:48 <nsh22> any1 know the command for changing passwords on a server (i.e. through puTTy)
23:48 <nsh22> ...
23:49 <BabyBug> passwd username
23:49 <nsh22> ??
23:49 <Pathetique> zurd: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=password+change+debian+4.0
23:49 <zurd> "passwrd" <username>
23:49 <nsh22> i gots it
23:50 <nsh22> you dont even need username...
23:50 -!- zurd [i=629675b5@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a4fc49b25706bb56] has quit ["http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client"]
23:50 <Pathetique> whardhego?
23:51 <nsh22> idunnowhardadhaygo?
23:51 <nsh22> :P

Log from 2009-03-17:
--- Day changed Tue Mar 17 2009
00:00 <Vanhayes> #g 95000 rubles in CAD
00:00 <armabot> Vanhayes: 95 000 Russian rubles = 3 480.71931 Canadian dollars
00:00 <nsh22> lol
00:00 -!- zurd [i=629675b5@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-87523d227a437535] has joined #armagetron
00:00 <Pathetique> wb
00:01 <Pathetique> zurd, did you get my link?
00:01 <Vanhayes> #g 1 CAD in Peso
00:01 <armabot> Vanhayes: 1 Canadian dollar = 11.1679703 Mexican pesos
00:01 <Pathetique> #g 1 USD in Vietnam
00:01 <armabot> Pathetique: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
00:01 <Pathetique> rofl
00:02 <Vanhayes> http://www.educationalsimulations.com/ ever try this game out?
00:02 <Vanhayes> if you can call it a game i guess
00:02 <Vanhayes> more of a simulator
00:03 <Pathetique> looks rly dumb.
00:03 <Pathetique> LOL
00:03 <Vanhayes> its weird
00:03 <Pathetique> I much prefer http://www.towerdefence.net/games-29-Vector_TD.php
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00:14 <zurd> yeah, thanks path
00:15 <Pathetique> :D
00:15 <compguygene> hi path
00:15 <Pathetique> \o
00:16 <compguygene> how do you feel about messing with some .3 server action
00:16 <Pathetique> I <3 0.3.0
00:16 <compguygene> tonight i am gonna setup an account an binary for .3 servers
00:17 <compguygene> figured things look mature enough to start to play
00:18 <Pathetique> Indeed.
00:18 <BabyBug> What kind of server?
00:18 <compguygene> the first one that i would like to do is a simple map rotation server
00:18 <Pathetique> 0.3.0 has map rotation?
00:18 <Pathetique> wtf
00:19 <Pathetique> LOL
00:19 <compguygene> my understanding is that map and config rotation commands are now available..according to the wiki
00:19 <nsh22> i beleive that in 0.3 there is mamp_rotate or sumthin lik ethat :P
00:19 <dlh> #tea
00:20 <armabot> dlh: Fortress Café: Players (8/32): 1942, free kill (dlh@generalconsumption.org), myte, nara, Radian +, SolidifiedForce, Tybalt, viper
00:20 <Pathetique> :o
00:20 <compguygene> there's a page on the wiki about it
00:20 <nsh22> #aawiki map rotation
00:20 <armabot> nsh22: Search took 0.60 seconds: Map /Config Rotation - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Map/Config_Rotation>; Code hacks - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Code_hacks>; Old Servers - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Old_Servers>; Swamplords on Crack - Armagetron Advanced (1 more message)
00:21 <compguygene> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Map/Config_Rotation
00:22 <compguygene> also, luke-jr tells me that his testing of the zones v2 server he has running has shown good stability...so i think its time to play
00:23 <compguygene> at least with fortress game types
00:24 <Pathetique> Fortress isn't quite yet possible with v2, I thought.
00:24 <compguygene> go in the zones v2 server that luke jr has been running...it works
00:24 <compguygene> and it has been running crash free for several weeks now
00:25 <compguygene> that includes people playing with settings, etc.
00:25  * Pathetique could crash it if he tried
00:25  * compguygene has no doubts about that
00:25 <Pathetique> lolololol
00:26  * compguygene is hoping that together we could do some cool stuff...before others get the idea
00:26 <compguygene> besides...someone has to be first to find the bugs
00:26 <Pathetique> Well for one thing, there's no acceleration zones.
00:26 <Pathetique> :S
00:27 <compguygene> XD
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00:27 <compguygene> BTW...the sty branch almost has working flags
00:28 <compguygene> hi smoothice!
00:28 <nsh22> HAI!
00:28 <smoothice> hi
00:29 <Pathetique> HAI
00:29 <nsh22> gawddammit, evrytime you come on here smooth, my mom kicks me off
00:29 <Pathetique> LOL
00:29 <smoothice> ...
00:29 <smoothice> how about you say
00:29 <smoothice> god damnit
00:29 <smoothice> lol
00:29 <Pathetique> tell her
00:29 <Pathetique> "LOLWTFBBQ"
00:29 <nsh22> cuz, i got yelled at by luke wife one time... it wasnt good
00:30 <nsh22> at least i think it was her...
00:30 <smoothice> wtf?
00:30 <compguygene> hmm..ib the father of a 12yo girl and 14yo boy..nah..not a good idea
00:30 <nsh22> she was onhere for luke...
00:30 <compguygene> i can only imagine
00:30 <nsh22> at least i think it was his wife, couldve been him...
00:31 <compguygene> lol
00:31 -!- sinewav [n=sinewav@adsl-76-197-246-93.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #armagetron
00:31 <compguygene> hi sine..
00:32 <smoothice> sinewav
00:32 -!- smoothice is now known as sinewave
00:32 <sinewave> lol
00:32 <nsh22> smoothice: FAIL!
00:32 -!- sinewave is now known as tanwav
00:32 <compguygene> hey..did you guys see the new "saloon" servers from Wild West
00:32 <Pathetique> indeed'
00:32 <tanwav> compguygene: Yeah
00:32 <nsh22> yes
00:32 <nsh22> i loled a bit
00:33 <tanwav> where you can say goddammit all day long :P
00:33 <nsh22> i guess they got fed up with the complaints about theoir no cuss rukles
00:33 <compguygene> its their response to the communities desire for Ww servers with no censorship
00:33 <nsh22> lol
00:33 <compguygene> also..anyone banned from Ww servers...can go there...like 808 beaner..etc
00:34 <compguygene> let those guys know...so we all can have a little more peace
00:34 <nsh22> lol its a free for all
00:34 <Pathetique> indeed
00:34 <Pathetique> So that way noobsaibot won't be like "LOLFREEBEANER"
00:34 <nsh22> s there a warning saying: use at own risk
00:36 <nsh22> kk im out
00:36 <Pathetique> cu
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00:38 -!- sinewave [n=sinewav@adsl-76-197-246-93.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #armagetron
00:38 <sinewave> hi
00:39 -!- tanwav is now known as smoothice
00:40 <Pathetique> smoothice: that lost its novelty BEFORE you even changed your name.
00:43 <smoothice> lol
00:43 -!- smoothice is now known as cosinewav
00:43 <cosinewav> hah
00:43 <cosinewav> clever :P
00:43 -!- cosinewav is now known as smoothice
00:43 <smoothice> w/e
00:43 -!- g4p [n=jp@p4FCE3AFA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
00:43 <compguygene> well i gtg
00:43 <smoothice> ok
00:43 <smoothice> bye compdude
00:43 <compguygene> but Tanwav is a pretty graph
00:44 <smoothice> lol
00:44 <smoothice> yep
00:44 <smoothice> ...
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00:44 <sinewave> you know, my name is actually more of a musical reference than a math one...
00:45 <BabyBug> Why the e on the end now?
00:46 <sinewave> that's my alt nick. my client keeps bouncing me.
00:46 <guru3> is your third choice sin.wave?
00:46 <BabyBug> lurker
00:46 <sinewave> mmm, no third choice. but that's a good one
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00:49 <guru3> or sinwav
00:49 <sinewave> yeah, that's good too.
00:50 <guru3> with sin/sine/wav/wave you get 4 combinations really
00:50 <guru3> all the the same meaning
00:50 <smoothice> 8
00:50 <smoothice> w/tan
00:50 <guru3> then you can start adding ./_/- inbetween
00:50 <guru3> ie sin_wav
00:50 <guru3> 12 combinations right there
00:50 -!- sinewav [n=sinewav@adsl-76-197-246-93.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
00:50 <sinewave> finally
00:50 -!- sinewave is now known as sinewav
00:50 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50870DA6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)]
00:50 <sinewav> ...
00:50 <guru3> or you could express it as tan(wav)cos(wav)
00:51 <BabyBug> lol sinewav why don't you register it?
00:51 <guru3> since cos would cancel and you'd be left wth sin
00:51 <sinewav> guru3: : this is true...
00:51 <sinewav> BabyBug: : uh, that would takes brains and motivation
00:51 <BabyBug> ...
00:51 <sinewav> things I have little of
00:52 <BabyBug> i highly doubt you have less than me, and i could do it :)
00:59 <armabot> armagetronad: guru3 * r9165 /www/mainsite/links.php: new clan site
00:59 <BabyBug> yet another clan site, oh joys
01:00  * sinewav registerd. thanks.
01:01 <BabyBug> and now you won't have to wait
01:01 <guru3> except you'll still have to kill the other client manually
01:01 <sinewav> \o/
01:01 <BabyBug> and if you're really feeling motivated, you could make it automatically ghost you
01:01 <guru3> so really you just gave yourself more work
01:02 <sinewav> ...
01:02  * sinewav trows a knife at bug
01:02 <BabyBug> guru3, that depends on your interpretation as work. I consider waiting as work. So i give him less work. :)
01:02 <BabyBug> s/as/of/
01:05 <guru3> satelites are the mosquitoes of space
01:06 <guru3> 100 years from now, your spaceshpi will need giant windscreen wipers to wipe the damn things off
01:06 <guru3> *spaceship
01:07 <BabyBug> 100 years from now i won't have a spaceship :)
01:07 <guru3> too old that even medical science won't keep you alive that long?
01:07 <BabyBug> I can't see me living to 118
01:07 <guru3> assuming i'm a) not hit by pulic transport and b) not electrocuted i've got an OK shot
01:08 <BabyBug> even if i did live to 118, i still can't see my owning a spaceship at that age
01:09 <guru3> no dream?
01:10 <BabyBug> No dream at all
01:10 <guru3> you'll at least see 2100 right?
01:11 <BabyBug> No
01:11 <guru3> planning on dieing young then?
01:12 <guru3> shame :/
01:12 <BabyBug> I don't mind dieing young as long as i die happy
01:12 <smoothice> DYING!
01:12 <BabyBug> So dieing now would suit me just fine :)
01:12 <smoothice> not dieing!
01:13 <guru3> oops
01:13 <smoothice> ...
01:13 <guru3> i'm probably going to become old and bitter
01:14 <BabyBug> I'll make sure i'm dead before i become old and bitter
01:14 <smoothice> for a baby, you're pretty pessimistic
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01:15 <BabyBug> I'm actually an optimist =)
01:15 <guru3> *sigh*
01:15 <BabyBug> I'm saying i'll die happy. What's not optimistic about that?
01:15 <smoothice> uh
01:15 <smoothice> dying is pessimistic altogether?
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01:15 <BabyBug> Uhh, no...
01:15 <Vanhayes> dying is a part of life
01:16 <Vanhayes> its the period of life's sentence
01:16 <Vanhayes> .
01:16 <BabyBug> At the very most you could say i'm being morbid. But that's borderline
01:16 <BabyBug> I'm not being pessimistic
01:17 <guru3> what you've said could be interperated as "i'll die young, but gosh-darn-it all, i'm going to bloody well die happy"
01:17 <BabyBug> No. Because i said old AND bitter. Not old OR bitter :)
01:18 <Lucifer> YES!
01:18 <Lucifer> I passed part 1 of the exam!  :)
01:18 <Lucifer> if I pass part 2, I have a job!
01:18 <BabyBug> Congratulations!
01:18 <BabyBug> :o
01:18 <guru3> Lucifer: banzai!
01:18 <Vanhayes> i say if someone makes it to 65 they should feel happy and fulfilled
01:18 <smoothice> What job Lucifer?
01:18 <guru3> wish i had a job lined up for this summer :(
01:18 <Lucifer> search engine evaluation
01:18 <smoothice> oooh
01:18 <Vanhayes> congrats
01:18 <smoothice> sweet
01:19 <Lucifer> it's only $13.50, but it's work at home, whatever hours I want
01:19 <Lucifer> so I can throttle my hours during breaks in my work at the school :)
01:19 <Lucifer> also, I can probably take all of July off at the school, because I'll have my kids, and I won't need a babysitter
01:19  * Lucifer really wants this job
01:19 <BabyBug> and more time for arma!
01:19 <BabyBug> :)
01:19 <Lucifer> YES
01:19 <Lucifer> more time for arma!  ;)
01:20 <Lucifer> Vanhayes: I think aiming for 65 is a little low
01:20 <Lucifer> I'm aiming for 90, myself
01:20 <Lucifer> not *just* 90, mind you, but being physically capable of most things and be in my 80s
01:20 <BabyBug> I don't see the pointing in aiming for an age. Because then if you don't get to that age you'll be sad.
01:20 <Lucifer> i.e. I don't want old age to disable me until my 90s
01:20 <Lucifer> BabyBug: no, you won't be sad, you'll be dead
01:21 <Lucifer> so you won't even know you failed
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01:21 <Lucifer> best kind of goal you can set, one where you can't know if you fail, but you can know if you succeed
01:21 <BabyBug> Lucifer, If i'm lying in hospital knowing i'm going to die. I'll be sad if i had a target age and hadn't reached it.
01:21 <guru3> i'd be sad anyway
01:21 -!- g4p [n=jp@p4FCE3AFA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Ex-Chat"]
01:21 <Vanhayes> 65 is good, should have a family, them moved out retired or semi retired
01:21 <guru3> becuase, like, i'm about to die
01:21 <guru3> that's pretty sad
01:21 <Lucifer> ah, well, that might make it a bit saddening
01:21 <Vanhayes> and if you set your goal as 65 every year after that is an accoplishment
01:22 <BabyBug> guru3, that'd just mean you haven't lived life to it's fullest
01:22 <Lucifer> true, but if you set your goal as, say, 80, you'd tend to take better care of yourself when you're younger
01:22 <guru3> yeah, not likely for me
01:22 <Lucifer> heh
01:22 <Lucifer> "You have been judged as having had a worthless existence"
01:22 <Lucifer> "Is that you, mom?"
01:23 <Vanhayes> i take pretty good care of myself
01:23  * Lucifer loves Red Dwarf
01:23 <guru3> does anyone still use alta-vista?
01:23 <Lucifer> not me
01:23 <Lucifer> never did, in fact
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01:23 <BabyBug> I don't really care when i die. I'm happy i've done everything i want so far!
01:23 <BabyBug> alta-vista is?
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01:23 <Lucifer> old skool search engine
01:23 <Lucifer> smoothice is just a class, poor guy
01:23  * Lucifer is a namespace
01:24 <guru3> altavista uses yahoo search
01:24 <guru3> bah
01:24 <Lucifer> no wait
01:24  * Lucifer is a global variable, because global variables are EVIL!
01:24 <guru3> what other search engines are there?
01:24 <Lucifer> msn
01:24 <BabyBug> google
01:24 <guru3> besides the big 3
01:24 <Lucifer> lots of specialty search engines
01:24 <BabyBug> alltheweb
01:24 <Lucifer> mediawiki has a search engine in it :)
01:24 <BabyBug> lycos
01:24  * Vanhayes just died of malenoma at age 80 as a russian 
01:25 <Lucifer> northern lights still running?
01:25 <BabyBug> as in a movie? or the things in the sky?
01:25 <BabyBug> They're beautiful!!
01:25 <Lucifer> search engine named after the "things in the sky" phenomenon
01:25 <Lucifer> you can see them from wales?
01:25 <Lucifer> heh, quote from Red Dwarf:
01:25 <BabyBug> No. But you can from Finland.
01:26 <Lucifer> "Transmit in all known languages, including Welsh:  We surrender!"
01:26 <Vanhayes> is welsh really a language?
01:26 <guru3> yes
01:26 <BabyBug> Yes it's really a bloody language!
01:26 <Lucifer> no, it's more like a noise
01:26 <guru3> and i can't think of any other search engines to submit to
01:26 <Lucifer> it's the language all the adults in the charlie brown cartoons speak
01:26 <Vanhayes> won won won won
01:26 <BabyBug> Vanhayes, http://cy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hafan
01:27 <BabyBug> Some example welsh text for ya :P
01:27  * Lucifer is still sore in weird places
01:27 <BabyBug> rough one nighters?
01:27 <Lucifer> heh, yeah
01:27 <Lucifer> #luke-jrisanasshat
01:28 <guru3> think i'm out of stuff to do today
01:28 <guru3> good night
01:28 <BabyBug> night
01:43 <BabyBug> Lucifer, armabot needs ops *dusts off her halo*
01:43 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o armabot] by ChanServ
01:43 <BabyBug> :)
01:43 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
01:43 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle, last build 69335 secs ago: failed Distcheck Installcheck
01:43 <armabuilder> linux-server: idle, last build 53983 secs ago: build successful
01:44 <BabyBug> I really don't get how a build bot is actually going to help in anyway whatso ever
01:58 <luke-jr> eh
01:58 <luke-jr> ]later tell compguygene hey, I never said ANYTHING about stability with my zones v2 testing..
01:58 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
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02:02 <smoothice> #seen sobeoit
02:02 <smoothice> #seen sobeit
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02:25 <jaded6> is it actually utterly empty here or am i lagging?
02:25 <BabyBug> There's just no one talking
02:25 <jaded6> whoaa
02:25 <jaded6> hey there bug ;)
02:26 <BabyBug> Unfortunately i'm the only nice person in here 8-)
02:26 <jaded6> lol
02:27 <jaded6> the definition of nice has to be revised then
02:27 <Vanhayes> i thought you didnt like anyone
02:27 <jaded6> i see how it is now
02:27 <BabyBug> Vanhayes, That's because they're not nice
02:27 <jaded6> so no one wanted to start a convo :/
02:27 <BabyBug> except zman, i like him. But he's not here
02:28 <BabyBug> and Lucifer, i like him. But he's not nice either.
02:28 <Vanhayes> ya but thats his charm
02:28 <jaded6> no one else but z and lucifer?
02:28 <jaded6> im heartbroken bug
02:28 <BabyBug> no one else
02:28 <BabyBug> So who are yooh?
02:29 <jaded6> telling you my name on tron would defeat the purpose of me using an alias
02:29 <jaded6> wouldn't it lol
02:29 <BabyBug> Yes it would. So how about you just stop using an alias?
02:29 <Lucifer> using an alias would defeat the purpose of joining #armagetron to talk about the game, wouldn't it?
02:29 <jaded6> but im not here to talk about the game, lucifer :)
02:29  * Lucifer was told this weekend that he's very nice
02:29 <zurd> lmao @ lucifer
02:29  * Lucifer sticks his tongue out at BabyBug
02:30 <jaded6> lol depends on who told you that
02:30  * Lucifer pulls his tongue back before she can grab it
02:30 <BabyBug> Lucifer, i see you're still yet to understand a womans logic
02:30 <Lucifer> heh, girl we were talking about earlier
02:30 <Lucifer> in a different channel
02:30 <BabyBug> So jaded6, who are you?
02:31 <jaded6> there are more interesting topics than my name, bug
02:31 <Vanhayes> not really, pretty quiet in here
02:31 <BabyBug> not many people call me bug
02:31 <BabyBug> *thinks*
02:31 <jaded6> then contribute van >:(
02:31 <Vanhayes> how many people call you baby?
02:31 <jaded6> shit
02:31 <BabyBug> i could just kick you though. That'd be much for fun than thinking!
02:31 <jaded6> so they call you baby?
02:31 <BabyBug> s/for/more/
02:31 <jaded6> lol you could, but whats the point in that?
02:32 <BabyBug> It'd remove the thing annoying me
02:32 <Vanhayes> #roulette
02:32 <jaded6> and the thing that bothered starting a convo here
02:32 <@armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
02:33 <BabyBug> And then became a complete and utter attention seeker by revealing you know me, yet refuse to say who you are
02:33 <jaded6> i never said i know you, bug
02:33 <jaded6> scroll up lol
02:33 <jaded6> for all you know i may not even know what tron is :/
02:33 <jaded6> what is tron, btw?
02:33 <zurd> #roulette
02:33 <@armabot> zurd: *click*
02:33 <Vanhayes> <jaded6> telling you my name on tron would defeat the purpose of me using an alias
02:34 <Vanhayes> that implies you know about it
02:34 <jaded6> i may just uhhh
02:34 <zurd> hehe
02:34 <jaded6> k i'll eat my words lol ;(
02:36 <BabyBug> So your tron name is?
02:37 <smoothice> dlh: I just recorded some bugs on a server and I want to fast forward to the very end of the recording because that's when the bug was. However, I don't know what the time was at that point. Is there a way to check the tottal time?
02:37 <jaded6> watch the entire thing and time it :o
02:38 <smoothice> there must be an easier way?
02:38 <smoothice> wrtlprnft: any ideas? ^
02:38 <jaded6> well the way i see it, you're probably spending the same amount of time if not more by looking for alternative ways than if you just watch it
02:38 <smoothice> but it's got to be approximately 30 minutes worth
02:38 <smoothice> I cannot watch that through
02:39 <jaded6> sucks :/
02:39 <jaded6> noob here, can't answer ya
02:40 <dlh> smoothice there is a way
02:40 <smoothice> :D
02:40 <BabyBug> #n9
02:40 <@armabot> BabyBug: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (0/16):
02:40 <BabyBug> :@
02:40 <smoothice> whoa
02:40 <smoothice> you made those servers?
02:41 <smoothice> nexus9?
02:41 <jaded6> lol
02:41 <smoothice> those are yours?
02:41 <BabyBug> No i never made those servers
02:41 <smoothice> lol k
02:41 <dlh> smoothice: tail <recording.aarec>
02:41 <jaded6> the admins there are wiped off the face of hte earth
02:41 <dlh> Look for something like “T 899 ...”
02:41 <dlh> 899 is the time
02:41 <BabyBug> no they're no jaded6...Now who the fuck are you....
02:41 <smoothice> T 1536
02:41 <smoothice> :D
02:41 <smoothice> thanks dlh
02:41 <BabyBug> not*
02:42 <jaded6> they're not? how many n9's do you see hanging around nowadays
02:42 <BabyBug> Quite alot on KDX
02:42 <jaded6> lol i meant on tron?
02:42  * jaded6 doesn't know what KDX is :/
02:42 <BabyBug> You said off the face of the earth
02:42 <jaded6> lol
02:42 <jaded6> alright we're being technical now? ;(
02:43 <BabyBug> If repeating what you said is complicated enough to fall under "technical" for you then i guess we are
02:43 <Lucifer> smoothice: you can fast forward through it, I forget the keys for that, but you can
02:43 <Lucifer> HOWEVER
02:43 <jaded6> oh here comes hte however
02:43 <Lucifer> the game has to run every simulation step, so you can only go as fast as the game can do that
02:43 <BabyBug> Lucifer, he knows he can fast forwarded. He needed to know what time to fast forward too.
02:43 <Lucifer> on some computers, fast forward is actually only as fast as regular playback :)
02:44 <Lucifer> well, he should have watched when the bug showed itself, because there should have been a time on his cockpit
02:44 <Lucifer> if he knows an approximate time, he can fast forward to that and see if that's it
02:44 <jaded6> you knew what i meant bug :)
02:44 <Lucifer> use your memory, it's just like going through a movie
02:45 <BabyBug> Well he knew it was at the end of the recording. So he needed to know the total time, so he could fast forward just before the end
02:45 <BabyBug> Silly!!
02:45 <BabyBug> and then he can see the bug
02:45 <jaded6> putty
02:45 <Lucifer> he also knew it was approximately 30 minutes long, so he can fast forward to 29 minutes, silly
02:45 <Lucifer> I'm not in the habit of saying things that are *that* obvious
02:45 <BabyBug> yes you are :P
02:45 <Lucifer> am not
02:45 <BabyBug> am too
02:46 <Lucifer> it's possible that as son as he starts the recording, he'll get a display showing him the total time, but I don't remember
02:46 <dlh> He now knows it is 1536 seconds long...
02:46 <Lucifer> how does he know that?
02:46 <BabyBug> *face palms*
02:46 <dlh> tail <recording.aarec>
02:46 <Vanhayes> #g 1536 seconds in minutes
02:46 <dlh> Look at the last time
02:46 <@armabot> Vanhayes: 1536 seconds = 25.6 minutes
02:46 <Lucifer> [20:40] <dlh> smoothice: tail <recording.aarec>  <--- ahhhh, he did that
02:47  * Lucifer was only scanning the channel, not reading individual comments
02:47 <BabyBug> So now it sinks in that everything you said was pointless? xD
02:47 <Lucifer> #kick BabyBug yeah
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02:47  * Lucifer has to keep his "not nice" reputation
02:47 <BabyBug> lol
02:48 <luke-jr> BabyBug: kick him back!
02:48 <luke-jr> <><
02:48 <BabyBug> #kick luke-jr but i don't like being predictable
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02:49  * BabyBug hugs Lucifer 
02:49 <zurd> luke-jr ping
02:49  * Lucifer hugs BabyBug back (you really are 18 or older, right?)
02:49 <BabyBug> Yes i'm really really 18
02:49 <Vanhayes> creepy
02:49 <Lucifer> (oh yeah, she's a fat old hairy man pretending to be an internet lesbian)
02:50 <BabyBug> ask Lizmatic... she knows i look "old" (her words not mine" >.<
02:50 <Lucifer> yeah, but she's young too, so what does she know?
02:50 <Lucifer> er, that didn't come out quite right
02:50 <BabyBug> she's older than me!!
02:51 <Vanhayes> better to look older youger so you can level off later on
02:51 <Lucifer> long as you don't get a wildly over-inflated ego about it
02:51  * Vanhayes looks 5 years older than he is for about 10 years now
02:51  * Lucifer has been told he looks younger than his 34 years
02:51 <BabyBug> I'd say you look good for your age. But no younger
02:52 <Vanhayes> used to be nice looking 20 at 15 but now i get 25-26ish
02:52 <BabyBug> not*
02:52  * zurd is 16 O.o
02:52 <Lucifer> I'm different in person, pictures only get part of the story
02:52 <Vanhayes> once got a girl who said i looked 32
02:52 <Lucifer> I also tend to wear bandanas and stuff, clothes that people my age don't generally wear
02:52 <BabyBug> Vanhayes, pic? :D
02:53 <Vanhayes> i think she just wanted me to be older than her though, she was 31
02:53 <Lucifer> Vanhayes: you're somewheres around 18 now, right?
02:53 <Vanhayes> not on this computer
02:53 <BabyBug> hrmph
02:53 <Vanhayes> im 20 now
02:53 <Vanhayes> 18 when i left for out west
02:53 <Lucifer> really?  I thought you were 15 when I met you, and I haven't known you for 5 years, I don't think....
02:53 <Vanhayes> ya you have
02:53 <Lucifer> ok, I guess I have, haha
02:54 <Vanhayes> hmm, no i was 16 i think
02:54 <Vanhayes> 4 years anyway
02:54 <Vanhayes> oh how the time flys
02:54 <Lucifer> no shit, man
02:54  * Lucifer was a kid back then too, still thought his wife was cool
02:54 <BabyBug> lol
02:55 <BabyBug> Being a kid was cool
02:56 <Vanhayes> 18 is still a kid
02:56 <BabyBug> It really doesn't feel like it
02:56 <BabyBug> :P
02:57 <Vanhayes> well not a kid, but i learned alot more in 2 years away alone than i did most of the time i was at home
02:57 <BabyBug> I moved out of home 2 years ago already :P
02:58 <BabyBug> my kids days are done :P
02:58 <BabyBug> kid*
03:00 <luke-jr> #quote add "<Lucifer> Vanhayes: you're somewheres around 18 now, right? <Vanhayes> not on this computer"
03:00 <@armabot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.  Quote #92 added.
03:00 <Vanhayes> boo
03:00 <Vanhayes> out of context
03:00 <luke-jr> :D
03:01 <BabyBug> ewwwww
03:01 <BabyBug> that's just wrong
03:03 <Vanhayes> #quote search pedo
03:03 <@armabot> Vanhayes: 1 found: #21: "<Luke-Jr_work__> btw, pedophile is good"
03:03 <luke-jr> wd, you found one of the out-of-context Luke quotes
03:03 <Vanhayes> one of so very many
03:03 <Vanhayes> #quote search turkey
03:04 <BabyBug> i struggle to see how that could be used in context
03:04 <@armabot> Vanhayes: 1 found: #38: "<GodTodd> hayes jerks off turkeys?"
03:04 <luke-jr> BabyBug: we were discussing the literal meanings of words
03:04 <Vanhayes> #dict pedophile
03:04 <@armabot> Vanhayes: wn and gcide responded: wn: pedophile n : an adult who is sexually attracted to children [syn: {paedophile}]; gcide: pedophile \pe"do*phile`\ (P[=e]"d[-o]*f[imac]l) n. A person who has pedophilia. Syn: pedophiliac. [PJC]
03:04 <luke-jr> "pedophile" literally means a person who loves children
03:05 <Vanhayes> used to mean that, now it means something else
03:05 <BabyBug> luke-jr, is that just what your daddy told you? xD
03:05 <luke-jr> literal
03:05 <luke-jr> "pedo" = child
03:05 <luke-jr> "-phile" = one who loves (prefix)
03:06 <Vanhayes> wait are you in welsh land right now BabyBug ?
03:06 <BabyBug> Of course
03:07 <Vanhayes> isnt it like 4 in the morning there?
03:07 <BabyBug> 2am
03:07 <BabyBug> elen's being a bitch, otherwise i'd be snuggled up in bed :)
03:08 <Vanhayes> ah ok 2 am isnt that bad then, was going to kick you if it was 4
03:08 <luke-jr> civ?
03:08 <BabyBug> heh, i used to have a terrible sleep pattern. Up till 7am, sleep 2 hours :P
03:09 <luke-jr> BabyBug: sound like BP!
03:09 <Vanhayes> ya, i was just up for about 40 hours untill i crashed for 15 yesterday
03:09 <Vanhayes> no real reason why either, just couldnt sleep
03:09 <BabyBug> BP?
03:11 <Vanhayes> no idea
03:11 <luke-jr> bipolar disorder
03:12 <luke-jr> aka manic depression
03:12 <BabyBug> :|
03:12 <Vanhayes> good song
03:12 <luke-jr> …
03:12 <BabyBug> How does that sound like manic depression? lol
03:12 <luke-jr> no sleep
03:12 <Vanhayes> insomneia?
03:12 <luke-jr> oft associated w/ mania
03:12 <BabyBug> it's called a baby, not freaking manic depression :P
03:12 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: no, that's different
03:13 <luke-jr> BabyBug: oh, that
03:13 <luke-jr> that's different too
03:13 <luke-jr> mania would be if you don't *need* the sleep :p
03:13 <Vanhayes> how is staying up and not sleeping different than insomnia?
03:13 <Vanhayes> sounds like the definition of it
03:13 <sinewav> manic episode
03:13 <sinewav> that's the diff
03:13 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: insomnia is INABILITY to sleep, despite a need for it
03:14 <sinewav> insomnicas are not manic
03:14 <luke-jr> and absense of need for sleep is only one symptom of mania
03:15  * sinewav unfortunately knows about mania.
03:15 <Vanhayes> well i was tired just didnt want to sleep untill i knew i wouldnt wake up till a reasonably hour
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03:19 <luke-jr> wtf was that]
03:21 <sinewav> troll?
03:21 <luke-jr> …?
03:21 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: civ⁇
03:21 <sinewav> what was wtf?
03:21 <luke-jr> Lucifer: civ?>?
03:21 <luke-jr> sinewav: [21:18:41] <-- jaded6 has left this server ("Java user signed off").
03:21 <luke-jr> sinewav: that guy
03:22 <Vanhayes> nah, im about to head to bed here soon
03:22 <sinewav> wnyone know who it was? or some random dude?
03:22 <Vanhayes> i think he plays arma, and i think he thought we would know who he was so he used an alias
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03:28 <Vanhayes> #night
03:28 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
03:29 <smoothice> bye Vanhayes
03:32 <Lucifer> luke-jr: no civ tonight, sorry
03:32 <Lucifer> my energy and attention is focused on this test which, if I pass, means I have a job :)
03:35 <Lucifer> insomnia is a symptom in several of those "disorders", including depression and ADD/ADHD
03:35 <Lucifer> but it is also a disorder on its own, the only problem is that it's most commonly associated with depression, since depression is the most common disorder
03:35 <sinewav> disorder? it's a way of life!
03:35 <Lucifer> occasional bouts with insomnia aren't unhealthy, though, because it can be caused by environmental factors (caffeine being a common one)
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03:36 <sinewav> But don't insomnicas feel tired?
03:36 <Lucifer> also, to be considered insomnia, it only has to be "can't fall asleep within 15 minutes of laying down after a regular day"
03:36 <Lucifer> no, to be insomnia, you don't have to feel tired
03:36 <sinewav> that's a pretty narrow margin
03:36 <Lucifer> "normal" behavior is that after a 15-18 hour day, when you lay down, you should fall asleep within about 15 minutes
03:37 <Lucifer> anything longer than that is insomnia
03:37 <Lucifer> obviously it is characterized by degrees, because if you're up for 2 extra hours (like I am, most of the time), that's worse than taking 30 minutes to fall asleep
03:37 <Lucifer> waking up patterns are part of it too, iirc.  An insomniac generally wakes up at regular times as well
03:38 <Lucifer> that's one of the things that makes it so bad, because there's a low-lying sleep deprivation that's constant
03:38 <sinewav> You're describing my life.
03:38 <Lucifer> but you can still be an insomniac who drifts, which is what I do
03:38 <Lucifer> I think, however, that some people just don't fit in the 24-hour day that we have
03:38 <Lucifer> I think I fit a 30 hour day much better, and comfortably
03:39 <sinewav> that's probaby me.
03:39 <Lucifer> that's one of the reasons I prefer working from home on my own schedule :)
03:39 <Lucifer> I fall into a 30 hour day then, and have no problems with it
03:39 <sinewav> I could probably live comfortably with the mars rver team.
03:39 <sinewav> rover*
03:40 <Lucifer> yeah, me too ;)
03:40 <sinewav> they have to be on mars time
03:40 <Lucifer> although I hear they have lots of problems with it
03:40 <Lucifer> it drove my ex crazy that I preferred a 30 hour day
03:40 <Lucifer> of course, she was already crazy, but that's beside the point
03:40 <sinewav> I was about to say...
03:40 <sinewav> `;)
03:40 <sinewav> Lucifer: don't mean to bother you while studying but...
03:41 <Lucifer> not studying, relaxing a bit before I start tackling the second part of the test
03:41 <sinewav> did you ever get a chance to check out any of those sound files I made a while back?
03:41 <Lucifer> I haven't yet, I've been really busy trying to get a job
03:41 <Lucifer> once my personal situation achieves some sort of stable equilibrium, I'll be able to put more time into arma
03:41 <sinewav> ok, just checking. I think madmax tried to put them somewhere in bzzr
03:42 <sinewav> yes of course
03:42 <luke-jr> Lucifer: would you be opposed to letting someone else finish up 0.3.1 if you don't have time now?
03:42 <Lucifer> luke-jr: not at all opposed, in fact, I'd love to see it happen
03:42 <luke-jr> i c
03:42 <luke-jr> what needs to be done? :o
03:43 <luke-jr> honestly, to the best of my knowledge, 0.3.1 should simply be branch, make it build, release XD
03:43 <Lucifer> pretty much, yeah
03:44 <luke-jr> hm
03:44 <Lucifer> you can, if you wish, merge from the trunk anything before the protobuf merge, which includes utf8
03:44 <luke-jr> 0.3.1 is pre-protobuf? :o
03:44 <Lucifer> I was working on converting all the windows .bat files to python scripts
03:44 <Lucifer> yes, 0.3.1 is pre-protobuf
03:44 <luke-jr> hum
03:44 <Lucifer> it needs to be released that way, too
03:44 <luke-jr> can I just build a few binaries and call it done, then start on 0.3.2? :p
03:44 <Lucifer> so, in my perfect world, the work I was doing would be finished
03:45 <Lucifer> well yeah, that's the basic idea, the problem I had was in building windows binaries
03:45 <luke-jr> ah
03:45 <Lucifer> it's possible that has been fixed and can be released now, if you have someone to do the build
03:45 <luke-jr> buildbot would make 0.3 releases simple to push then?
03:45 <luke-jr> once we have a Windows slaver
03:45 <Lucifer> the procedure you should follow is "Build an autopackage, get people to sanity check it.  Get a windows build sanity checked, and a mac os x build"
03:46 <luke-jr> so we don't sanity check OS X builds? ;)
03:46 <Lucifer> Then, if everything passes the sanity check (no more than a few days to a week total), post a tarball *from that revision*, tag the revision of course, and release
03:46 <Lucifer> heh, of course sanity check the mac os x builds, but if you don't have what you feel is sufficient sanity check for that particular build, release anyway
03:47 <Lucifer> we only get as much sanity checking as people are willing to put in, so if people complain, you can always say "Where were you when I asked for sanity checking?  You'[ll just have to wait until 0.3.2"
03:47 <Lucifer> any changes you make in the branch should be merged back to the trunk, if still relevant (they may not be, the trunk has moved quite a bit since I branched 0.3.1)
03:48 <Lucifer> but if you convert all windows .bat files to python scripts, you can build a windows release with wine
03:48 <dlh> changes were merged back in a few times, there might have been some more added
03:48 <luke-jr> Lucifer: wine? :x
03:48 <Lucifer> wine, yes
03:48 <sinewav> :o
03:48 <luke-jr> I wish mingw didn't give me a ton of cryptic errors
03:48 <Lucifer> preferred over cross-compiling because it builds identically to building in windows
03:49 <luke-jr> cross-compiling doesn't?
03:49 <Lucifer> not guaranteed, but it's theoretically possible
03:49 <Lucifer> wine is guaranteed because it uses the same binaries for the build system that are used in windows
03:50 <Lucifer> we need more testing of cross-compiling before we can release that way, but I would love to get to a point where that's how we release
03:50 <Lucifer> if only because it means we can automate about 90% of the release building on one machine
03:50 <luke-jr> only 90%? O.o
03:51 <Lucifer> a basic release for any 0.3.x release, imo, requires at least an autopackage for linux, a windows installer, and a .dmg for mac os x, and a source tarball
03:51 <Lucifer> well, the other 10% is the mac os x build
03:51 <luke-jr> oh right
03:51 <luke-jr> OS X
03:51 <Lucifer> if the *point* of a 0.3.x release is to test linux distribution packages, then obviously *for that release*, we'd need an additional package that's to be tested ;)
03:52 <Lucifer> and we need releases like that so that when we reach the next stable version, we'll have whatever package support we need already tested and in place in our automation scripts
03:52 <Lucifer> but 0.3.1 isn't such a release
03:53 <luke-jr> would be nice to just branch, change the version, and tell buildbot to make everything XD
03:53 <Lucifer> it would be, but it'll take awhile before we have that infrastructure in place
03:54 <Lucifer> also, in order to build a release with buildbot, I'd prefer to be able to give buildbot a tarball that should be used by all builders rather than having it do a scm retrieval
03:54 <Lucifer> but snapshot sanity checking builds are certainly within the realm of what we can expect from the buildbot
03:54 <luke-jr> it could probably make the tarball, then use it for the rest/
03:54 <luke-jr> ?
03:54 <Lucifer> don't know
03:55 <Lucifer> we can write plugins for it, however
03:55 <Lucifer> so we can get there, with enough work in the system
03:55 <Lucifer> I'd rather focus on making the buildbot a build testing platform for now, then move on to having it generate nightly builds
03:55 <Lucifer> then move on to having it generate packages for many systems, also as nightly builds
03:55 <Lucifer> when we have all that in place, we can worry about having it build releases :)
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04:40 <Lucifer> quit what?
04:40 <luke-jr> reconnecting ;)
04:44 <zurd> bye bye nubs
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04:47 <Pathetique> ct|kyle: why does armahacktron have to be so tricky when trying to do scripted stuff?
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04:55 <Lucifer> well, this is easy work
04:55  * Lucifer likes it
04:55 <luke-jr> ?
04:55 <Lucifer> this search engine evaluation stuff
04:55 <Lucifer> given a query and a page, rate the relevance of the page to the query
04:56 <Lucifer> these ratings are used as an input to the search algorithm
04:56 <luke-jr> o
04:56 <Lucifer> hey, if you're looking for work, maybe I can link you to these guys
04:56 <Lucifer> didn't you say you were looking for work?
04:56 <luke-jr> pay decent?
04:56 <luke-jr> not actively, no
04:56 <Lucifer> $13.50/hour
04:56 <luke-jr> i c
04:56 <Lucifer> so I guess decent is relative here
04:57 <luke-jr> plenty of $25+/hr work I can do when I get time :p
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07:57 <armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-zone-bouncing] r899 implement zZoneInfluenceItemBounce
08:18 <Lucifer> #math calc 134250969-134250735
08:18 <armabot> Lucifer: 234
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09:25 <Lucifer> #math calc 134250969-134250777
09:25 <armabot> Lucifer: 192
09:26 <Lucifer> hey, not bad, I started with 270
10:23 <Lucifer> #math calc 134250969-134250806
10:23 <armabot> Lucifer: 163
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12:28 <guru3> wish i understood a bit more about launchpad
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13:16 <armabot> armacommits: [themes] r1 Initial import
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14:56 <nsh22> heyheyhey
15:00 <Concord> guru3, if you've got the time could Concord@sitethemelaunchpad be approved?
15:01 <guru3> approved
15:02 <joda_bot> guru3: ?!!?
15:03 <joda_bot> Concord: what is that pseudo email address thing ?
15:03 <Concord> thanks
15:03 <nsh22> for athentication maybeh?
15:03 <Concord> joda, he got the idea, didn't he?
15:04 <nsh22> so guru3 needs to approve any new authentication requests?
15:04 <guru3> https://launchpad.net/~armagetronad-web/
15:04 <dlh>  /team Negative
15:04 <guru3> any project admin can
15:05 <nsh22> im thinkin about doing that for nw
15:05 <joda_bot> guru3: so we're just taking lack's proposal and go ahead ?
15:07 <joda_bot> guru3: the forums could use the default theme until the design choice has been made ... I guess it won't hurt to have the default theme installed as an alternative later
15:07 <guru3> not really
15:07 <guru3> it just seemed like a good idea to setup a repository
15:07 <joda_bot> default phpbb3 theme
15:07 <joda_bot> guru3: I agree with that :D
15:07 <joda_bot> ok
15:08 <Concord> guru3, I think durka wants to be approved as well ;)
15:08 <joda_bot> independand of design, I'd like to make a "lo-fi" theme by just reducing the subsilver pro code (keeping the style)
15:08 <guru3> durka has been approved
15:08 <joda_bot> later we can then just skin the lo-fi like the usual skin
15:09 <nsh22> guru3: how would i go about getting NW as an authentication thing (i.e. nsh22@nw)
15:09 <guru3> now at least we have a place to start
15:09 <guru3> nsh22: ask me and have a good reason for it
15:09  * nsh22 is thinking of a good reason...
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15:11 <zurd> i think todays gonna be a good day :)
15:11 <nsh22> its not
15:11 <nsh22> lol
15:11 <zurd> :(
15:11 <zurd> >.<
15:11 <ct|kyle> no it is not
15:11 <nsh22> :D
15:11 <joda_bot> zurd: just keep the happy mood and spread it
15:11 <joda_bot> nsh22: do you need some sunshine ?
15:11 <joda_bot> the sun is shining here :D
15:11 <zurd> lmao, near imposiable in here
15:11 <ct|kyle> I got a 3-5 page paper due in 4.5 hours. I only have about 1/4 of a page
15:11 <zurd> :O
15:12 <joda_bot> ct|kyle: O.o what about
15:12 <ct|kyle> Alfred Binet
15:12 <zurd> who?
15:12 <joda_bot> #g Alred Binet
15:12 <zurd> o.O
15:12 <ct|kyle> #google Alfred Binet
15:12 <armabot> ct|kyle: Search took 0.26 seconds: Alfred Binet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Binet>; Human Intelligence: Alfred Binet: <http://www.indiana.edu/~intell/binet.shtml>; Psychology History: <http://www.muskingum.edu/~psych/psycweb/history/binet.htm>; Alfred Binet (www.whonamedit.com): <http://www.whonamedit.com/doctor.cfm/1299.html>; A Science (2 more messages)
15:12 <joda_bot> ...
15:12 <nsh22> guru3: ummm ok.... could we (nw) be put on the authentication thingy. we are a clan with a number of growing servers and not all of us have a forums or ct account
15:12 <ct|kyle> g is google calc
15:13 <dlh> nsh22: you don't need a authority name to use authentication
15:13 <dlh> a short*
15:13 <nsh22> i know
15:13 <nsh22> wow i just had epic fps, like 200... then it came back to reality and went to 50...
15:14 <joda_bot> ct|kyle: ah ok
15:14 <zurd> ok, what do we (nw) need?
15:14 <joda_bot> ct|kyle: leave IRC and work :D
15:14 <zurd> to do so
15:14 <dlh> Do you have a website?
15:14 <zurd> what type of website?
15:14 <ct|kyle> joda_bot: no I think I can get it done
15:14 <nsh22> yes but we dont have acess to the files (its on one of those freeforum thingies)
15:14 <ct|kyle> I'll just ignore IRC
15:14 <dlh> I kind where you can host some php pages
15:15 <nsh22> aw...
15:16 <zurd> hrm....
15:16 <nsh22> well we could move it to te vps...
15:16 <joda_bot> dlh: I kind of *know* where ...
15:16 <joda_bot> ?
15:16 <zurd> thats a 50$ transfer fee
15:16 <nsh22> or just host some php pages there:P
15:16 <dlh> A kind*
15:16 <nsh22> zurd: ... ill think of a way
15:16 <joda_bot> dlh: ah ok
15:17 <zurd> nsh22: its all on you at this point :>
15:17 <dlh> nsh22, zurd: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Authentication_Server
15:17 <nsh22> zurd: if we can do a mysql backup (and you have all the files for the style we have) we can run it off the vps, but we would ened a domain name...
15:18 <nsh22> dlh: ty
15:18 <joda_bot> nsh22:have a look at dyndns.org
15:18 <zurd> i have the domain name
15:18 <zurd> nightwalkers.info
15:18 <nsh22> that make me happy...
15:18 <nsh22> but we will need a dyndns tho...
15:19 <zurd> we NEED a dns??
15:19 <nsh22> wait...
15:19 <nsh22> joda_bot: would we need a dns if we have a vps and a domain name already?
15:20 <nsh22> zurd: btw, whos paying for domain?
15:20 <dlh> Use the dns services provided by your registrar
15:20 <nsh22> what registrar?
15:20 <nsh22> for the vps?
15:20 <dlh> Where did you register your domain name?
15:20 <nsh22> zurd:
15:20 <zurd> angel bought it as a gift to me, then gave it to me, costs 98c a year
15:21 <joda_bot> nsh22: you don't even need a vps neccessarily
15:21 <nsh22> but where is it from (which site)
15:21 <zurd> godaddy.com
15:21 <joda_bot> I just use my router to host jedimasters.de
15:21 <nsh22> joda_bot: well we have one so we might as well use it
15:22 <joda_bot> you either can point the domain at the IP-Adress of you vps, but it would need a static IP
15:22 <nsh22> i think it is static...
15:22 <nsh22> luke-jr: is the vps's ip static?
15:22 <joda_bot> or you can setup nightwalker.info as an alias of nightwalkervps.dnydns.org and then run an dynamic dns client on the vps
15:23 <nsh22> free? lol
15:23 <joda_bot> I used the second way to host jedimasters.de on my router.
15:24 <joda_bot> is it that already ? :-)
15:24 <nsh22> but you have to pay for the dns client?
15:24 <joda_bot> huh ? no fees
15:24 <nsh22> sweet
15:24 <joda_bot> only for the nightwalker.info domain
15:24 <nsh22> iight
15:25 <zurd> hmmm
15:25 <nsh22> this is lookin good :P
15:25 <zurd> what if we upgraded our forums to a second level hosting plan?
15:25 <nsh22> ima start this process...
15:26 <nsh22> zurd: it only lasts for a little while, and with hosting it on our vps, we can control everything
15:26 <nsh22> ill confer with smooth on the matter as well...
15:27 <zurd> yeah, but only thing im worried about is the fees to transfer, or the hassle to get every1 switched over...
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15:27 <zurd> it'll wind up good, or very very bad
15:28 <nsh22> zurd: im checking now to see if we can do a mysql backup on ours site
15:29 <zurd> umk
15:30 <nsh22> dammit...
15:30 <nsh22> we cant do a backup...
15:31 <dlh> nsh22: you can have forums.<yourdomain>.info go to your forums as it does now, and everything else go to your vps
15:32 <zurd> :O
15:32 <joda_bot> dlh: they won't have a full fledged dns ... I'm not sure if you can setup subdomains with dyndns.org
15:32 <nsh22> dlh: ... iom not sure if that would help us. what we are ttryiong to do (ultamitly) is be able to get php pages to work on our site so we can do authenication)
15:32 <joda_bot> creating subdomains on godaddy might work
15:33 <dlh> Do you want auth to be tied to your forums?
15:34 <nsh22> i beleive so..
15:34 <nsh22> or atleast with a member list on our site
15:34 <guru3> getting closer... i almost have imap
15:34 <guru3> only been at it around 3 hours
15:36 <nsh22> it says i need to pay for dns...
15:37 <joda_bot> nsh22: if you try to register a domain name, yes
15:37 <nsh22> no, its already registered...
15:37 <joda_bot> nsh22: not if you just create a free dynamic dns on one of their subdomains
15:38 <nsh22> ah thats what im douing now...
15:38 <joda_bot> nsh22: with a static ip of the vps, you don't need dyndns
15:38 <nsh22> o0
15:38 <nsh22> so...
15:38 <nsh22> i dont need to get it?
15:38 <zurd> xD
15:38 <joda_bot> depends on the vps you use
15:38 <nsh22> lukes
15:38 <zurd> thats a pain off your ass
15:39 <joda_bot> if it has a dynamic ip you need dyndns otherwise you don't
15:39 <nsh22> i already set us up an account  :(
15:39 <nsh22> ok
15:39 <nsh22> so now im really confused...
15:39 <joda_bot> nsh22: dyndns has support to delete accounts I guess :-=
15:39 <nsh22> ..
15:40 <joda_bot> but having a dyndns account won't hurt you :-) just don't give them too much information about you ...
15:40 <joda_bot> email is enough usually :D
15:40 <nsh22> ok, so we have a a vps... we have a static ip (i think)... we have a domain name... now what
15:40 <zurd> o.o
15:41 <joda_bot> ask angel to point the domain to luke's vps (IF luke say that's ok to do
15:41 <dlh> Unless your forums are hosted on your vps, then you will not be able to connect armaauth with them.
15:41 <joda_bot> dlh: they can setup a self maintained authority independand of their forums
15:41 <dlh> right
15:42 <nsh22> dlh: im thinking of just doing a few phpo pageson the vps
15:42 <dlh> Yeah, that would work fine as-well
15:42  * nsh22 thinks smooth might be good at that :P
15:42 <zurd> hehe
15:42 <nsh22> lol
15:42  * zurd this hes only good in html and css
15:43 <nsh22> no he said hes good at  php...
15:43 <zurd> no good at php
15:43 <zurd> NO GOOD
15:43 <nsh22> you or smooth?
15:43 <zurd> O.o
15:43 <zurd> you lost me
15:43 <nsh22>  "zurd this hes only good in html and css" <=== what was that SUPOSSED to say
15:44 <dlh> If you're going to maintain auth manually, not being tied into your forums, then all you will need is http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Earmagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-work/annotate/head%3A/batch//authentication_reference.php
15:44 <zurd> thats a long url o.o
15:45 <nsh22> ...
15:45 <zurd> we need to include and configure that php page to have auth? THATS IT?!
15:45 <nsh22> so we just put that on our vps?
15:45 <nsh22> ...
15:46 <zurd> why did you tell us that 20mins ago?!
15:46 <zurd> >.<
15:46 <zurd> dlh; you da man, nontheless
15:46 <dlh> Basically, yes. It was linked from the wiki page I gave you before.
15:47 <nsh22> "It is written by a php n00b and therefore should be understandable by php n00bs :)"
15:47 <nsh22> lol
15:47 <zurd> ehe
15:48 <zurd> ugh theres like 7 people total playing arma right now >.>
15:48 <nsh22> lol
15:48  * nsh22 is hungry
15:48 <nsh22> imm off to9 get food
15:48  * nsh22 is away: food
15:48 <zurd> iight man, ttyl
15:49 <nsh22> ill be back in like 5 mins
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16:18 <guru3> i think i may just give up on imap
16:19 <nsh22> what is imap?
16:19 <Vanhayes> a new product from apple?
16:19 <guru3> :(
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16:20 <Concord> guru3 is it worth your time to show me how to use bzr&lp?
16:21 <Concord> or is it faster if I just send you the stuff?
16:21 <guru3> well
16:21 <guru3> you should learn
16:21 <guru3> just as i have to :S
16:21 <guru3> on linux?
16:21 <Concord> mac
16:21 <guru3> got bzr installed?
16:21 <Concord> yep
16:21 <BabyBug> Hello =)
16:21 <joda_bot> hi BabyBug
16:21 <guru3> bzr branch lp:address
16:21 <guru3> make changes
16:22 <guru3> bzr commit
16:22 <guru3> bzr push
16:22 <guru3> and then it's on lp
16:22 <guru3> (terminal)
16:22 <Concord> redwood:themes kliges$ bzr push lp:~armagetronad-web/armagetronad/themes
16:22 <Concord> bzr: ERROR: These branches have diverged.  Try using "merge" and then "push".
16:22 <Concord> redwood:themes kliges$
16:22 <guru3> run a bzr merge then
16:23 <guru3> not sure how it could have diverged
16:23 <guru3> given no one has made any changes
16:23 <Concord>  ERROR: Branches have no common ancestor, and no merge base revision was specified.
16:23 <BabyBug> ooo you have a themes branch :)
16:23 <guru3> you started with bzr branch right?
16:23 <Concord> yep
16:23 <guru3> then did commit
16:23 <guru3> and now it wont let you push
16:25 <luke-jr> nsh22: of course
16:26 <Concord> should I be cd'ed in the directory?
16:26 <guru3> yes
16:26 <guru3> i think
16:27 <luke-jr> zurd: probably a good idea to move the forums to the VPS..? :p
16:27 <Concord> ok
16:27 <Concord> No new revisions to push.
16:27 <Concord> got that
16:27 <nsh22> luke-jr: we cant, no backuos
16:28 <nsh22> luke-jr: also, is it possible to put a domain name on the vps then point it to forums?
16:29 <luke-jr> a domain name on the vps? wtf?
16:29 <luke-jr> domain names are abstract registrations, they're not "on" a computer
16:29 <BabyBug> I'm sure he means domain name pointing to the VPS.
16:29 <Concord> success!
16:29 <luke-jr> if it's pointing to the VPS, it's not pointing to the forums…?
16:29 <Concord> I think
16:29 <BabyBug> Oh, i assumed the forums are on the VPS :s my bad
16:30 <luke-jr> nsh22: what do you need backups for?
16:30 <luke-jr> BabyBug: that's the problem I suspect
16:30 <luke-jr> nsh22: did you agree to some terms that allow them to hold your data hostage?
16:30 <nsh22> to put the forums on the vps. dont really want eeryone to reregister and stuff
16:30 <Concord> nope
16:30 <nsh22> luke-jr: idunno, zurd might have
16:30 <Concord> oh yes
16:30 <luke-jr> nsh22: so tell them you're not needing a backup, just moving to another service and want your data to transfer?
16:30 <luke-jr> o
16:31 <Concord> but it put up my .DS_stores also :P
16:31 <nsh22> apparently its a $50 charge to transfer
16:31 <joda_bot> luke-jr: it's a free clan hosting forum thing, they won't release the data for free :D
16:31 <joda_bot> eheh
16:31 <joda_bot> thought so
16:31 <luke-jr> joda_bot: if zurd/nsh22 didn't agree to that, they're holding data hostage
16:32 <luke-jr> joda_bot: can't just take someone's data and refuse to give it to them
16:32 <nsh22> i think elder did when he made the site
16:32 <luke-jr> meh
16:32 <luke-jr> nsh22: how many posts?
16:33 <nsh22> 2800
16:33 <nsh22> Total posts 2800 | Total topics 351 | Total members 103 |
16:34 <BabyBug> Concord, bzr ignore to ignore files you don't want added.
16:34 <Concord> k
16:34 <luke-jr> ouch
16:34 <luke-jr> nsh22: how much would it cost to get backups?
16:34 <nsh22> 50
16:35 <luke-jr> o
16:35 <luke-jr> lame
16:36 <nsh22> yeah
16:37 <nsh22> so maybe get a ubdomain hat oints to the forums offof the vps
16:37 <luke-jr> English?
16:37 <nsh22> could i get a subdomain that points to the foriums while the main domain points to the vps
16:38 <luke-jr> depends on if your forums allows you to point domains at it
16:39 <nsh22> it does
16:39 <nsh22> we already habve the domain pointingat it
16:41 <luke-jr> o
16:41 <luke-jr> that's up to the domain ppl then
16:41 <luke-jr> :p
16:42 <Concord> yay
16:42 <nsh22> but you will allow me to put a domain on the vps?
16:44 <luke-jr> nsh22: where you point your domains is your business :p
16:44 <nsh22> okey dokey
17:09  * nsh22 is away: homework
17:09 <BabyBug> we don't give a fuck!
17:10 <nsh22> :P
17:13 <joda_bot> BabyBug: go do ur own homework :-)
17:13  * joda_bot is doing his
17:14 <BabyBug> I dont get homework anymore...Left school agesss ago, and i don't work :P
17:14 <nsh22> so what do you do?
17:14 <nsh22> :P
17:14 <BabyBug> nothing?
17:14 <BabyBug> drink mainly, hang out
17:14 <nsh22> oh yeah, i forgot...liz
17:15 <luke-jr> nsh22: BabyBug is a waste particle
17:15 <BabyBug> heh no, no liz no more
17:15 <BabyBug> and i am not a waste particle!!
17:15 <nsh22> no?
17:15 <nsh22> what happened to liz?
17:15  * BabyBug kicks luke
17:16 <nsh22> ]alias add kick "echp [$who kicks $1]"
17:16 <ljrbot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
17:16 <joda_bot> BabyBug: fix the wiki then
17:16 <joda_bot> :D
17:16 <nsh22> ]alias add kick "echo [$who kicks $1]"
17:16 <ljrbot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
17:16 <nsh22> ]kick me
17:16 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
17:16 <nsh22> oh...
17:17 <nsh22&