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00:32 <ljrbot> New news from armagetronadbzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1112 Fixed typo....
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01:32 <ljrbot> New news from armagetronadbzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1113 Fixing camera crash when there is no game object at all to w...
01:33 <BabyBug> weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
01:41 <ct|kyle> o0 BabyBug is using IE
01:48 <Vanhayes_> .tea
01:49 <tronner> Vanhayes_: Fortress Café: Players (10/32): .:] Corn, Alkaloid, BabyBug, CuRbSidE, Guybrush, jpp, sine.wav, teEn sEnSaTioN, Zalethon, Zop
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02:19 <ivantis2> so...when are we getting teh armagetron masks?
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02:19 <nsh22> the whatnow?
02:19 <ivantis> instead of unaffiliated/nick
02:20 <ivantis> we would have like armagetron/<position>/nick
02:20 <ivantis> armagetron/noob/nick, armagetron/developer/nick, etc
02:20 <nsh22> ah
02:20 <ivantis> didnt someone apply for that?
02:20 <nsh22> iunno
02:31 <nsh22> [Ttech[daedalus]] idle 525:08:18, signon: Tue Jan 27 00:31:29
02:31 <nsh22> HOLY SHIT!
02:32 <Ttech> group vhosts are fun
02:32 <Ttech> lol
02:32 <Ttech> nsh22, not that much time...
02:33 <nsh22> ... why is he/you here?
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05:09 <Lucifer> The car is big enough to carry five adults and fit two children in rear-facing seats in the trunk. <--- does the New York Times have an agenda?
05:10 * BabyBug is confused
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09:29 <Lucifer> guru3: ok, what's with the new avatar? ;)
09:29 <guru3> I haven't decided yet.
09:29 <Lucifer> BabyBug: that was in an article about the sedan that Tesla Motors is building
09:30 <Lucifer> BabyBug: suggesting that children would sit in rear-facing seats in the trunk is a subtle way of painting the car badly
09:30 <Lucifer> guru3: so you haven't decided what SE means?
09:30 <guru3> There's what I thought it meant when I made it, and then there's what it's coming to mean.
09:30 <guru3> Sort of.
09:31 <Lucifer> I think we should put something on the main site that says "Come join our forums, we're always warm and friendly to newcomers"
09:31 <Lucifer> I think if we did that, people would actually start believing we are ;)
09:31 <guru3> I was just about to post saying I think we've just got a bad reputation.
09:32 <Lucifer> heh, we attract detractors, it goes with the territory :)
09:32 <Lucifer> and there are a few people who have committed one of those first post sins that continue to hold their grudges
09:32 <guru3> Yeah.
09:33 <guru3> My response is no where near as long as yours or z-man's, but I've got to go in about 4 minutes, and you've said most all of it already.
09:37 <guru3> And off I go...
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14:50 <epsy> guru3, you should split that thread: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=19059&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30
14:50 <epsy> IMO
14:52 <guru3> is that the one from this morning?
14:53 <epsy> the WW discussion
14:53 <epsy> or well, manta/destiny
14:53 <guru3> the thought had occured to me
14:53 <guru3> and then i forgot
14:53 <guru3> :/
14:53 <guru3> had to go to uni
14:53 <epsy> as always :)
14:54 <guru3> usually my memory isn't a leaky sieve
14:54 <BabyBug> as opposed to a non-leaky sieve? :s
14:54 <guru3> i just have to pay a bit more attention
14:55 <guru3> minor details
14:56 <guru3> BAH!
14:56 <guru3> was playing this guy on the nano server
14:56 <guru3> and he left
14:57 <guru3> after i won about 15 rounds in a row :/
14:57 <guru3> i dont understand how people can be bad at nano
14:57 <guru3> it's the easiest game type
14:57 <epsy> :P
14:57 <joda_bot> guru3: armagetron is about expierence :-P
14:57 <joda_bot> you're just old :-)
14:58 <epsy> considering there aren't many other games in this genre, that's probably true
14:58 <guru3> i can't get the damn bots to die
14:58 <guru3> and theyh're the easy ones
14:58 <epsy> I always do :P
14:59 <epsy> I actually even got them quite often to do the insta-bug
14:59 <guru3> :o
14:59 <epsy> bots would never get insta'd
14:59 <epsy> just go through the opposing wall
14:59 <epsy> (that was of course on a local dedicated)
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15:01 <Rajinn> epsy, is there a way to make logs make a new log file each day by adjusting the .srv script?
15:01 <epsy> why me? who are you?
15:02 <epsy> and what is the .src script?
15:02 <guru3> it's so beit
15:02 <guru3> aka wahtever that other name was as well
15:02 <Rajinn> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=205304#205304
15:02 <Rajinn> haha yeah, i've had a lot of names
15:02 <Rajinn> I did what tank suggested - moving a line of code to the bottom of sleep 5, but that didnt work :(
15:03 <Rajinn> and files are getting far too big
15:03 <epsy> so that it redirects lines to the proper file even when not restarting?
15:03 <epsy> there has to be a tool for that
15:05 <Rajinn> Yeah, i was hoping to somehow make it create its own new file on a new day, i have dedicated_idle set, so when it quits, it should write to a new file if its a new day - i was hoping
15:05 <epsy> better make a shellscript, to append each time you recieve a line from the server output
15:06 <Rajinn> o_O i am not good with that kind of stuff, i was hoping you could teach me
15:09 <guru3> i was thinking you could pipe the output to tee -a
15:10 <epsy> while read line; do echo $line >>'/path/to/log'$(date +blabla)'.log'; done <&1
15:11 <guru3> that might work
15:11 <epsy> actually you don't even need the <&1 part
15:12 <Rajinn> that would have to go in its own file, or would you put it in the srv script?
15:12 <epsy> it's own file
15:12 <epsy> feel free to replace ;'s with newlines
15:12 <epsy> and let the file begin with #!/bin/bash
15:12 <epsy> that tells the OS to run the file with /bin/bash
15:12 <epsy> don't forget to chmod +x it
15:13 <epsy> then run the server like this:
15:13 <epsy> arma --blabla | /path/to/loggerscript
15:13 <guru3> wouldn't that call date every line?
15:13 <epsy> if you want to use it multiple times you could have it accept an argument
15:13 <epsy> yes it would
15:14 <guru3> :s
15:14 <epsy> while read line; do echo $line >>$1'/log'$(date +blabla)'.log'; done
15:14 <epsy> arma --blabla | /path/to/loggerscript /path/to/
15:15 <epsy> :)
15:15 <Rajinn> epsy, what about what dlh suggested in the topic? would that work? or should i try your way?
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15:15 <epsy> I don't know
15:16 <Rajinn> what does he mean by "Put that code in the while loop at the end." i don't see a "while loop" in my script i posted :S
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15:20 <epsy> um
15:20 <epsy> while true; do # start a loop to allow server restart if it crashes
15:20 <epsy> done # end the loop
15:20 <epsy> rather just at the beginning of the loop, if you ask me
15:21 <Rajinn> so should i just put it under while true; do?
15:22 <Rajinn> oo he posted
15:22 <Rajinn> i see what he means
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15:25 <Rajinn> gtg, thanks for the help guys
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15:42 <epsy> @decode xor 101
15:42 <teabot> epsy: Error: 'xor' is not a valid encoding.
15:42 <epsy> @decode XOR 101
15:42 <teabot> epsy: Error: 'XOR' is not a valid encoding.
15:42 <epsy> mm
15:45 <epsy> bbl
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15:49 <smoothice> .seen Durka
15:49 <tronner> smoothice: Durka was last seen in #armagetron 17 hours, 13 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <Durka> :P
15:55 <smoothice> .later tell Durka http://www.macheist.com/bundle/
15:55 <tronner> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
15:55 <smoothice> .later tell dlh http://www.macheist.com/bundle/
15:55 <tronner> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
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16:06 <smoothice> hi joda_bot
16:08 <joda_bot> hi smoothice
16:20 <smoothice> joda_bot: wasssupppppp
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16:23 <Vanhayes> .tea
16:23 <tronner> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (4/32): Donald Duck, Hype, Incorporeal, stax
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17:10 <Vanhayes> .tea
17:10 <tronner> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (1/32): power
17:13 <ct|kyle> .calc 365*2*18
17:13 <tronner> ct|kyle: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
17:13 <ct|kyle> .google calc 365*2*18
17:13 <tronner> ct|kyle: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
17:25 <Vanhayes> tronner cant do math
17:26 <smoothice> .calc 365*2*18
17:26 <tronner> smoothice: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
17:26 <ct|kyle> .help calc
17:26 <tronner> ct|kyle: (calc <expression>) -- Uses Google's calculator to calculate the value of <expression>.
17:26 <smoothice> .calc 3 times 4
17:26 <tronner> smoothice: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
17:26 <smoothice> ...
17:26 <smoothice> SOAP is broken
17:26 <ct|kyle> .help math calc
17:26 <tronner> ct|kyle: (math calc <math expression>) -- Returns the value of the evaluated <math expression>. The syntax is Python syntax; the type of arithmetic is floating point. Floating point arithmetic is used in order to prevent a user from being able to crash to the bot with something like '10**10**10**10'. One consequence is that large values such as '10**24' might not be exact.
17:26 <smoothice> .g SOAP
17:26 <tronner> smoothice: SOAP - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SOAP>; Soap (TV series) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soap_(TV_series)>; SOAP Tutorial: <http://www.w3schools.com/soap/default.asp>
17:26 <ct|kyle> .alias add calc math calc
17:26 <tronner> ct|kyle: The operation succeeded.
17:27 <ct|kyle> .calc 3
17:27 <tronner> ct|kyle: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
17:27 <ct|kyle> .alias add calc math calc @*
17:27 <tronner> ct|kyle: The operation succeeded.
17:27 <ct|kyle> .calc 3+3
17:27 <tronner> ct|kyle: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
17:27 <ct|kyle> .math calc 5+5
17:27 <tronner> ct|kyle: 10
17:28 <ct|kyle> :/
17:28 <smoothice> .calc 3*3
17:28 <tronner> smoothice: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
17:28 <smoothice> .math calc 5+5
17:28 <tronner> smoothice: 10
17:28 <smoothice> .math calc 3*3
17:28 <tronner> smoothice: 9
17:29 <luke-jr> /ban tronner
17:29 <smoothice> /ban luke-jr
17:30 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o guru3] by ChanServ
17:30 <ct|kyle> .kick luke-jr
17:30 -!- mode/#armagetron [+b *!*i=p4@unaffiliated/tronner] by guru3
17:30 <smoothice> guru3: :O
17:30 <ct|kyle> guru3: now there are no trusted bots
17:31 <smoothice> great
17:31 <@guru3> i never trusted any bots to begin with
17:31 <smoothice> .whoami
17:31 <smoothice> thanks guru3
17:31 <smoothice> ...
17:31 <@guru3> you need a bot to give you your identity?
17:31 <@guru3> poor show there
17:31 <ct|kyle> but you said it could come in when armabot was gone
17:31 <@guru3> yes i remember saying that
17:32 <@guru3> but i had the overwhelming urge to kickban just then
17:32 <@guru3> i'll let it come back in a lil bit
17:32 <joda_bot> smoothice: you're the real player 1
17:33 <BabyBug> Who votes we throw guru3 in a skip?
17:33 <smoothice> me
17:33 <BabyBug> really? that's mean of you
17:33 <smoothice> ...
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17:33 <@guru3> muahaha
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17:34 <smoothice> hi
17:34 <smoothice> hi?
17:34 <smoothice> no way
17:34 <smoothice> guru3 actually LETS us talk
17:34 <smoothice> NO WAY
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17:35 <@guru3> i wonder...
17:35 <BabyBug> you wonder....?
17:36 <@guru3> if he'll come back and do it all again
17:36 <BabyBug> heh
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17:36 <smoothice> yes
17:36 <smoothice> I wil
17:36 <smoothice> lLOL!!!!
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17:36 <BabyBug> What happened to the nice you just out of interest?
17:36 <@guru3> ....
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17:38 <smoothice> I come in peace
17:38 <smoothice> Don't cuss at me folks
17:38 <smoothice> LOL
17:38 -!- mode/#armagetron [-b *!*i=p4@unaffiliated/tronner] by guru3
17:38 <smoothice> :D
17:38 <smoothice> .hi !
17:38 <tronner> Hello ! :) [q]
17:40 <luke-jr> -.-
17:41 -!- mode/#armagetron [+m] by guru3
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17:42 <BabyBug> guru3, couldn't you be doing something worthwhile? >.<
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17:43 <@guru3> im working on getting my ne2k compatibile network card working!
17:44 <joda_bot> ne2k ? :-) wow, old PC :-)
17:44 <@guru3> actually
17:44 <@guru3> i dont think it's going to work anymore
17:44 <joda_bot> guru3: what OS ?
17:44 <@guru3> debian
17:44 <@guru3> and just touched this one chip on the card
17:44 <@guru3> feeling awfully hot :S
17:45 <joda_bot> if it is ISA then I had to configure the interrupts manually using some DOS utility at times
17:45 <@guru3> must one set the IO/IRQ/B jumpers first?
17:45 <joda_bot> usually yes :-)
17:45 <@guru3> oops
17:45 <joda_bot> it should also be a free IRQ :D
17:46 <@guru3> i assume i just fried this card
17:46 <@guru3> but i don't know for sure
17:46 <@guru3> *sigh*
17:46 <smoothice> BabyBug, guru3, joda_bot, luke-jr: http://www.macheist.com/bundle/
17:46 <@guru3> 1 down, 27 to go
17:47 <luke-jr> joda_bot: ne2k *compatible*
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17:47 <@guru3> the card says lr2000 duplex on it
17:47 <@guru3> rtl 8018AS
17:48 <smoothice> dlh: http://www.macheist.com/bundle/
17:48 <luke-jr> smoothice: Apple FTL
17:48 <joda_bot> luke-jr: yeah, I had compatible cards too, but I also had the tools from the manufacturer to configure it :-P
17:48 <smoothice> FTL = ?
17:48 <dlh> I don't use any of those apps
17:48 <ct|kyle> For the loose duh n00b
17:48 <smoothice> dlh: Not even Espresso? :(
17:48 <dlh> Maybe I would use acorn
17:48 <@guru3> shit just lost a jumper
17:48 <smoothice> dlh: Kinemac is sooo ocoool
17:49 <joda_bot> guru3: don't get jumpy :-P
17:49 <@guru3> the jumpers say IRQ0,1,2
17:49 <@guru3> and IO0-3
17:49 <@guru3> i'm guessing this aren't actual irqs
17:49 <@guru3> and io addresses
17:55 <luke-jr> Apple < Microsoft
17:55 <smoothice> no
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17:57 <epsy> guru3, can you rename this thread: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=205310
17:57 <epsy> >.>
17:59 <@guru3> done
18:00 <epsy> not sure if it's appropriate, but well, if it's totally wrong, it will perhaps get the author to edit it himself
18:02 <@guru3> now that i look at it
18:02 <@guru3> i really don't know why destiny posted in that thread
18:03 <epsy> the other thread?
18:03 <@guru3> yeah
18:03 <epsy> compguyene is wrong WW
18:03 <epsy> and I think that's it
18:04 <@guru3> no idea where to put that split either
18:04 <epsy> er
18:04 <epsy> you didn't split it did you?
18:04 <@guru3> i'm about to?
18:04 <epsy> ah
18:05 <epsy> I somewhat rembmered you saying "done" heh
18:05 <@guru3> that was to renaming
18:05 <epsy> indeed
18:07 <@guru3> now it's been split
18:10 <epsy> ty
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19:45 <AI_team> hi
19:46 <AI_team> can anyone tell me where i can get the ladel 18 setings?
19:46 <AI_team> ladle*
19:50 <dlh> http://durkas.info/resource/ladle/official.cfg
19:50 <dlh> AI_team:
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19:58 <AI_team> big ty
19:58 <epsy> yw
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20:01 <nsh22> herro
20:02 <epsy> it's written "hello"
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20:03 <nsh22> ... you have no sense of humour
20:03 <epsy> it's just that yours showed a really sucky face
20:04 <nsh22> :(
20:04 <nsh22> what would you do if you saw a big wall of green coming at you from afar?
20:05 <Vanhayes> say why is that wall moving?
20:05 <nsh22> ... i.e. a wall of radiation
20:06 <epsy> tell me when you see a wall of radiation
20:06 <Vanhayes> can you even see radiation?
20:06 <Vanhayes> is it green?
20:06 <epsy> no, it looks just like nsh22's cakes
20:07 <Vanhayes> egyptian?
20:07 <nsh22> HEY, it looked pretty damn good for a fourth tcake
20:07 <Vanhayes> not syaing its bad, just egyptian
20:07 <nsh22> its a sarchoghagus
20:11 <Vanhayes> ya i know, just didnt want to attepmt spelling that
20:12 <Vanhayes> see my attempt at spelling atempt failed
20:12 <nsh22> attempt?
20:15 <Vanhayes> sure
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21:04 <nsh22> luke-jr: does this look right to you?
21:04 <nsh22> http://rafb.net/p/qO6wyn45.html
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21:13 <nsh22> ok, well i did a makerun command on a server and i still cant get it to run....
21:15 <nsh22> wtf does this mean??
21:15 <nsh22> Fri Mar 27 20:13:28 2009 *** Setting DEDICATED_IDLE to 3.78555555555556
21:15 <nsh22> Fri Mar 27 20:13:28 2009 *** Failed to exec: Broken pipe
21:15 <nsh22> epsy: could you help me?
21:16 <epsy> how to say..
21:16 <epsy> tail -f input | someprocess
21:16 <epsy> if "someprocess" dies, the overall line won't stop
21:16 <nsh22> huh? 0\
21:16 <epsy> it's only when tail will die
21:17 <epsy> BUT
21:17 <epsy> imagine something gets in the file "input"
21:17 <epsy> and tail tries to send it to "someproccess"
21:17 <epsy> there, it fails with a broken pipe
21:17 <nsh22> so there is something from input sending to someprocess?
21:18 <epsy> [22:15] <nsh22>: Fri Mar 27 20:13:28 2009 *** Setting DEDICATED_IDLE to 3.78555555555556
21:19 <epsy> I suppose that's what it tried to send..
21:19 <nsh22> so how would i fix?
21:19 <epsy> well
21:19 <epsy> that's how I did it for xteamsumo
21:20 <epsy> tail -f input | (while true; do $arma; done)
21:20 <epsy> you loose any kind of tracking on when server dies
21:20 <epsy> but it works
21:21 <nsh22> so type in "tail -f input | (while true; do $arma; done)" ?
21:22 <epsy> no, you type in: "reboot"
21:25 <nsh22> epsy: that just killed my vps i think
21:27 <dlh> or, rebooted it...
21:27 <nsh22> well, it hasnt come back on so...
21:27 <epsy> I didn't think you would actually have done it
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21:28 <zurd> wtf epsy >.<
21:29 <nsh22> epsy: how do i fix
21:29 <epsy> fix what?
21:29 <zurd> reboot just fked us over..
21:30 <zurd> iight its back up
21:30 <dlh> dont enter commands as root, unless you know what they do...
21:30 <nsh22> ok
21:31 <nsh22> zurd: i thought we wernt putting our prices on our website!!!!
21:31 <zurd> that was temp......
21:31 <nsh22> msn..
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21:44 <epsy> google calc broken?
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22:13 <Vanhayes> .tea
22:14 <tronner> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
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22:31 <noob13> !tea
22:31 <noob13> .tea
22:31 <tronner> noob13: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
22:31 <noob13> .sd fortress
22:31 <tronner> noob13: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.0xffff88: 0xffff88Players (14/14): 3450, afc, ß|Aos|, ct°$afari$Kate, glaik,it, Klosinho-Roger, Mâdè, Player 1, Player 2, Retrofishy, SiMon, slagsmalskluben, ~|DS|~ Judders, ~|DS|~zion
22:32 <noob13> there should be a command that checks for all the non-wild fort server :p
22:32 <noob13> .servers
22:32 <tronner> noob13: This data is 31 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (13/14), ~Night Walker's Central~DF~ (12/16), Wild West =Capture The Flag= (10/10), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty<-=}Sumo< (9/10), |FA| Devils Rings! (8/16), Wild West =Sumo= (8/14), The GT Kingdom (High Rubber) (8/16), - | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | - (7/16), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (6/12), Swampland Mud Puddle (5/8), Afrothunder's (2 more messages)
22:41 <ljrbot> New news from armagetronadbzr: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r906 Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 9185 to 9191:...
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23:30 <Vanhayes> .piong
23:30 <Vanhayes> .ping
23:30 <tronner> pong
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