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Log from 2009-03-20:
--- Day changed Fri Mar 20 2009
00:02 <joda_bot> nsh22: pong
00:02 <nsh22> your name is epsy?
00:03 <joda_bot> you hl me :D
00:03 <joda_bot> I'm the auto away bot for epsy :-)
00:03 <nsh22> how?
00:03 <nsh22> so, what your epsy or no?
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00:04 <joda_bot> why do you think i might be an epsy ?
00:04  * joda_bot turns into eliza mode
00:04 <nsh22> maybe you can help me
00:04 <nsh22> to make a comit, do i have to b ecd'ed into the folder that i am commiting?
00:05 <nsh22> be cd'ed*
00:05 <nsh22> in bazaar
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00:05 <joda_bot> I guess it might be a wise idea, but I' no expert on bazar ... just used it once, and forgot about it ?
00:05 <joda_bot> what do you want to do ?
00:05 <joda_bot> send a merge-proposal or commit ?
00:05 <nsh22> commit something to a branch
00:06 <nsh22> i think
00:06 <joda_bot> so you own that branch ?
00:06 <nsh22> no
00:06 <joda_bot> but you are allowed to write into it ?
00:06 <Pathetique> Would anyone know how to generate an SSH key for bzr on a mac?
00:07 <Pathetique> aktuly, scratch that. -.-
00:07 <Pathetique> <-- idiot
00:07 <nsh22> i just checked and luke-jr hasnt approved eme to be on the team...
00:07 <joda_bot> unlikely you can commit then
00:08 <nsh22> no i cant right now, but i would like to know how
00:08 <joda_bot> nsh22: http://osdir.com/ml/python.storm/2008-06/msg00012.html
00:08 <nsh22> cuz when i tried commiting something out of my bazaars main folder, it said bzr wasnt a recognized command
00:08 <joda_bot> perhaps that help you do submit it ?
00:08 <nsh22> yeah, its for a bugfix
00:10 <joda_bot> http://doc.bazaar-vcs.org/bzr.dev/en/mini-tutorial/index.html#merging-your-work-into-the-parent-branch
00:10 <joda_bot> ok, I'm out ... perhaps ct|kyle can help you out
00:10 <joda_bot> *eg*
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00:11 <Pathetique> lawlawlawl
00:19 <Pathetique> lol@ "checking CXXFLAGS for gcc -nobodyreadsconfigureoutputanyway... -nobodyreadsconfigureoutputanyway"
00:23 <ct|kyle> help with what?
00:24 <Pathetique> hmm?
00:24 <ct|kyle>  joda_bot: ok, I'm out ... perhaps ct|kyle can help you out
00:24 <Pathetique> oh, he was referring to nsh22
00:25 <nsh22> yeah, im havoing trouble with bazaar
00:25 <ct|kyle> on what?
00:26 <Pathetique> being a noob
00:26 <nsh22> ... yeah hes right
00:26 <nsh22> i didnt knoiw how to commit, but i think i got it now
00:28 <Pathetique> lolololol
00:28 <Pathetique> <--hyper
00:32 <Pathetique> bah, fuck configure.
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00:41 <cpayan> Damn I didn't notice until i checked my @replies on twitter today that you guys had rolled on with the ideas for the arma site
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00:41 <cpayan> catching up now
00:41 <HyperDrive> hello again
00:41 <Concord> lol cpayan
00:42 <cpayan> Yea thanks Concord  :D
00:43 <HyperDrive> so I added render_rimwall to arma to enable/disable rim wall rendering but it only gives about 10% fps boost with the rim walls disabled
00:43 <HyperDrive> not as much as expected :(
00:43 <HyperDrive> plus its annoying crashing into the invisible black rim walls XD
00:43 <HyperDrive> have you guys got any ideas how to boost the fps ?
00:46 <PinkTomato> HyperDrive: what is your original FPS?
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01:03 <epsy> [01:03] <joda_bot> oh, eh, e=Eingine right ? ... what ever the prefix is for event then
01:03 <epsy> whatte?
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01:05 <nsh22> epsy: he left
01:06 <epsy> ok, well, good night
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01:17 <HyperDrive_> Ive found an interesting little javascript irc file that can be embedded into a web page but it doesnt have a demonstration html page to make it work, the file is on source forge and the main site is here http://www.levelthreesolutions.com/jisirc/ do any of you have a spare moment to take a look ? I would like to add this to my website if possible
01:20 <cpayan> guru3, do you use any software to manage the "main" site? You use phpbb for the forum and what for the wiki?
01:20 <guru3> the wiki is mediawiki
01:20 <guru3> and mainsite is just html
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01:26 <cpayan> I wanted to run textpattern by you as a means to manage the main site/blog (if there'll be one)
01:26 <cpayan> It's dead simple, which makes it extremely customizable. Have you ever used it?
01:27 <guru3> no
01:27 <guru3> in general i don't like CMSs
01:28 <cpayan> Any reason why?
01:28 <guru3> always seem to be about 800 features i never use
01:28 <guru3> all that clutter for what's at heart really just static html
01:28 <cpayan> That's what I like about Textpattern. It sits somewhere between a blog and a cms, and is generally just an easier way to update info
01:29 <cpayan> If you get a chance, take a look at textpattern, it's what I use to manage my own site. It's a pretty elegant tool, I think.
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01:30 <guru3> my first impression is of a stripped down wordpress
01:30 <cpayan> Yes well, the point of the CMS isn't code generation, it's the ability to update without having to go into the code every time. Taking down some friction in the updating process
01:31 <cpayan> It's a pretty different system from Wordpress. Wordpress is centralized around the blog entirely. But yea man, poke around with it.
01:31 <guru3> right now about as much friction as there is is copying and pasting between the index file and the news archive file
01:32 <cpayan> Well, if a blog comes around, I'm assuming you wouldn't mind something like Textpattern or Wordpress being used there?
01:33 <cpayan> In said blog, news would probably be posted, so why do a good job twice. We can use textpattern (which is more flexible as to creating mostly static pages) to take news to the main page, while having news and whatever else in the blog
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01:34 <cpayan> thanks for the approval, btw
01:34 <guru3> it's hard to say exactly what would be in a blog
01:34 <guru3> np
01:34 <guru3> i would try and keep news out of it
01:34 <guru3> reserving the blog for interesting monologs about weird hacks and such
01:35 <BabyBug> Hellooooo \o
01:35 <guru3> and news being shit like is out
01:35  * BabyBug gives guru3 a back rub
01:36 <guru3> and i'm off to bed now as i have to get up early tomorrow for lectures
01:36 <cpayan> Well if it's a general arma blog, personally, i imagined it would mostly be about people in the community, the servers, game modes, arma 101, and news would be entirely appropriate.
01:36 <guru3> good night everyone
01:36 <cpayan> all right
01:36 <cpayan> night
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01:38 <HyperDrive_> cu
01:38 <HyperDrive_> sorry i was afk
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01:52 <HyperDrive_> why does my name have an _ at the end ?
01:58 <BabyBug> because you joined with a _ at the end of your name
01:59 <BabyBug> :)
01:59 -!- BabyBug is now known as HyperDrive
01:59 <HyperDrive> oops
01:59 -!- HyperDrive is now known as BabyBug
01:59 <BabyBug> /nick HyperDrive
01:59 <BabyBug> There, type that
01:59 <BabyBug> lol
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02:07 <HyperDrive> oO thanks
02:07 <BabyBug> :)
02:07 <HyperDrive> why did it have the _ ??
02:08 <BabyBug> *shrugs*
02:08 <HyperDrive> and what is user mode -e ?
02:08 <HyperDrive> it just changed me
02:08 <noob13> means you're identified i think
02:08 <noob13> hi there!
02:08 <BabyBug> that's something to do with the server. You can hapilly ignore that
02:08 <BabyBug> happily*
02:08 <HyperDrive> lol babybug
02:08 <BabyBug> ^^
02:08 <HyperDrive> i must read the manual again :(
02:08 <BabyBug> I like to keep things simple :P
02:09 <HyperDrive> yeah i guessed that :P
02:09 <noob13> the underscore has something to do with reconnecting too fast and server getting confused.
02:09 <noob13> not sure
02:09 <noob13> .tea
02:09 <tronner> noob13: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
02:09 <noob13> .ctos
02:09 <tronner> noob13: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo: Players (0/12):
02:14 <HyperDrive> i got an answer from chatzilla help they say "the _ gets added if the original nickname is already on the same server"
02:19 <noob13> indeed, happens when u reconnect quickly too, as the server still thinks the original nick is taken..
02:20 <HyperDrive> thanks
02:21 <HyperDrive> my first day using irc, ive never used any online chat except armagetron
02:21 <HyperDrive> (in game chat)
02:22 <noob13> your life just got a little more sad ;)
02:23 <HyperDrive> very true
02:23 <Lucifer> yay, I have a kickstand again!  ;)
02:23  * Lucifer just welded his kickstand bracket back onto his bike.
02:23 <HyperDrive> nice
02:23 <HyperDrive> are you a good welder ?
02:23 <HyperDrive> what am I asking, of course you are
02:23 <Lucifer> I'm a good torch welder, adequate mig welder, but it's been 7-8 years since I've done any welding at all
02:24 <Lucifer> I had to use a mig welder for this, not just because it was what's available, but because a torch would heat up too much metal and warp the rear fork assembly
02:24 <Lucifer> borrowed a welder from a neighbor's friend, heh ;)
02:25 <Lucifer> now I'm going to go stand and look at my bike, think about riding it
02:26 <HyperDrive> well done Lucifer
02:27 <noob13> i'd like to ride my bike too.. unfortunately the climate doesn't suit it quite yet..
02:27 <noob13> damn slippery roads still
02:28 <HyperDrive> you need flaming tires
02:28 <HyperDrive> XD
02:28 <noob13> good idea!
02:29 <noob13> :P
02:29 <noob13> or just get some pin wheels, if thats what they're called
02:30 <noob13> too lazy, got myself a bus ticket instead
02:30 <HyperDrive> nah flaming wheels look better and leave a trail behind the bike :D
02:31 <noob13> hehe, i'd fear for my pants catching fire..
02:32 <noob13> now you're gonna suggest wearing pants made of aluminium foil, yeh? :P
02:33 <noob13> bah, i need sleep..
02:33 <HyperDrive> hehe
02:33 <noob13> i was meant to stay awake and work on my java assignment all night
02:33  * cpayan hates Firefox restarts
02:34 <noob13> shit happens, procrastination wins, tiredness prevails
02:34 <noob13> .gn
02:34 <cpayan> heh
02:36 <HyperDrive> why did your firefox restart ?
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03:01 <cpayan> HyperDrive, you've never had to restart firefox eventually?
03:01 <cpayan> I wind up doing it every few hours or so
03:03 <cpayan> just because it slows down considerably
03:03 <HyperDrive> maybe twice per year ?
03:03 <HyperDrive> ive never had that problem of slowing down
03:05 <cpayan> lucky you, must have a decent computer
03:06 <cpayan> I have a 5 or so year old laptop
03:07 <HyperDrive> i have a slightly crappy celeron 1.73ghz
03:07 <HyperDrive> i dont know how old it is XD
03:09 <ct|kyle> cpayan: does it take up all/half the CPU?
03:10 <cpayan> no it just eats up memory, especially when I use a lot of flash applications
03:10 <cpayan> I haven't done a lot of research into it
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03:10 <ct|kyle> what version are you running
03:10 <cpayan> I just find the simplest solution is to restart it. It's not that serious, really.
03:10 <cpayan> 3.0.6
03:11 <ct|kyle> cpayan: one of my professors is having a similar problem on his old machine
03:11 <ct|kyle> that's why I wondered
03:12 <cpayan> It's a pretty common problem
03:12 <cpayan> I didn't realize other people had it until I read about it repeatedly on Lifehacker
03:12 <HyperDrive> firefox is currently using 9% of my cpu and I have a shockwave flash running in one window, a javascript 3d chess in another, 2 irc chat clients and other misc pages
03:12 <cpayan> I'm not too worried about it. Firefox just eats up memory, apparently.
03:13 <cpayan> HyperDrive, what's the chess site?
03:13 <HyperDrive> http://www.nihilogic.dk/labs/chess/   its fantastic all in javascript !
03:13 <HyperDrive> im simply amazed
03:14 <ct|kyle> try the 3.1 beta 3 firefox
03:14 <HyperDrive> is it good ? im using 3.06
03:15 <ct|kyle> it will be 3.5 when they release it
03:15 <cpayan> that is pretty cool. Canvas is the wave of the future. Give it a few years and we'll have a standard replacement for eye-candy, hopefully.
03:15 <cpayan> for flash for eye-candy *
03:15 <ct|kyle> #google Canvas
03:16 <ct|kyle> .google search Canvas
03:16 <tronner> ct|kyle: ShopStyle search: canvas totes: <http://www.shopstyle.com/browse?fts=canvas+totes>; ShopStyle search: canvas bag: <http://www.shopstyle.com/browse?fts=canvas+bag>; TeacherTube Search - Canvas: <http://www.teachertube.com/search_result.php?search_id=Canvas>
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03:16 <cpayan> The fellows that run Ajaxian seemed pretty impressed by the possibilities. Especially with faster and faster Javascript languages.
03:16 <cpayan> err
03:16 <cpayan> engines
03:16 <cpayan> i can't seem to get my thoughts straightened.
03:17 <ct|kyle> where is a link about it
03:17 <cpayan> err
03:17 <ct|kyle> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canvas_%28HTML_element%29
03:17 <ct|kyle> that?
03:17 <cpayan> yea
03:18 <ct|kyle> silverlight should die soon
03:18 <HyperDrive> i was very impressed :D
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03:18 <cpayan> Personally, I like the idea behind Silverlight more than Flash.
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03:19 <cpayan> Of all things, Silverlight is more "open." You don't need to go out and buy a few hundred dollars of software just to create a Silverlight application
03:19 <ct|kyle> so open it does not work on linux
03:20 <cpayan> Microsoft has been working with Novell (is it novell? not sure) on Moonlight, a linux port of Silverlight
03:20 <cpayan> You can run Silverlight 1.0 apps, though not 2.0 yet.
03:21 <ct|kyle> ya I know, but moonlight apps block out silverlight a lot of the time
03:21 <cpayan> Since most of them are 2.0 now
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03:21 <HyperDrive> can one of you smart programmers out there port amiga os4 to my amiga 500 ?
03:21 <ct|kyle> and I have not found tools to build them
03:22 <Lucifer> cpayan: firefox leaks memory
03:22 <cpayan> But hey. There are people working on it. Microsoft is new to that little game, it took Adobe a long time to figure that they should release up-to-date Flash versions too.
03:22 <Lucifer> it always has, and it looks like it always will
03:22 <Lucifer> it does better now than it used to, now it takes about a week before it consumes most of my swap space
03:22 <Lucifer> it used to do it every couple of days
03:22 <Lucifer> does it more when I use lots of javascript apps, like gmail, so I suspect the leak is in the javascript engine
03:23 <cpayan> Yep. I'm not too worried about it. I used to use Opera, when I was on Windows, but now Opera and Flash don't play well together in my Ubuntu installation, and I don't feel like dealing with the aggravation when I have a perfectly capable browser in Firefox.
03:23 <Lucifer> but I haven't gone deep enough into it to figure it out
03:23 <cpayan> They're working on a new JS engine, so maybe that'll shore it up, if the leak is there.
03:24 <compguygene> that was one of the main stated reasons for the new js engine..also supposed to be blazing fast performance compared to any other current js engine
03:24 <ct|kyle> it also leaks a lot on flash
03:25 <ct|kyle> actually it isent doing too bas in my 3.2 alpha version
03:25 <ct|kyle> bad*
03:25 <cpayan> Anyway ct|kyle, I'd rather hope that there can be some standard non-proprietary method of achieving the same effects as Flash/Silverlight and they can be relegated to other things. Silverlight, I understand, is amazing for rich apps that integrate with other MS stuff using ASP.
03:26 <cpayan> Yea, apparently everyone is working on new blazing JS engines. Safari's new beta already has one there, Opera is working on one...
03:26 <cpayan> I think the IE team is still figuring out CSS
03:27 <ct|kyle> but the standard should not be a product of 2 evils
03:28 <cpayan> heh
03:28 <ct|kyle> ya my firefox goes back to normal ram after I end flash.com
03:28 <cpayan> Canvas is hardly that, and it's still iffy as to whether it can become as rich as Flash or Silverlight
03:28 <cpayan> likely not
03:28 <luke-jr> Flash and Silverlight suck
03:29 <ct|kyle> I like flash though I hate the fact that I can't create anymore
03:29 <cpayan> Only works for 2d rendering, though people are figuring out ways to make 3d stuff like the chess game
03:29 <cpayan> ?can't create anymore?
03:30 <ct|kyle> no program to create flash animations on linux (that I have found anyway)
03:30 <cpayan> ah yea
03:30 <luke-jr> uh
03:31 <luke-jr> 3D canvas is already working AFAIK
03:31 <HyperDrive> i gtg
03:31 <HyperDrive> later all
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03:31 <cpayan> bloody slowly, yea, and it's done by breaking things up, using 2d elements. It's not as sophisticated as Flash
03:32 <luke-jr> Flash isn't 3D anyhow
03:32 <luke-jr> and Flash is proprietary
03:32 <luke-jr> so automatic fail
03:32 <cpayan> eye-roll
03:32 <BabyBug> your life is an automatic fail
03:32 <luke-jr> and how is OpenGL slow?
03:33 <cpayan> Flash ain't bad, but yea, the proprietary programs for building flash applications is the big problem to me.
03:33 <cpayan> Canvas. The HTML element.
03:33 <luke-jr> Flash itself is proprietary
03:33 <cpayan> It doesn't matter much, to me, or the rest of the world, if it's proprietary. My problem is that I haven't got hundreds to throw around just to buy a tool to be able to make a flash app.
03:33 <luke-jr> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7171
03:34 <luke-jr> Canvas. The HTML element.
03:34 <luke-jr> Now with OpenGL ES.
03:34 <cpayan> looks pretty sketchy so far, but that's cool
03:34 <cpayan> i didn't know
03:35 <cpayan> Most of the 3d canvas news I've heard about revolve around tech that everyone has on their computers in some form, Javascript
03:35 <luke-jr> I think Opera includes support too
03:35 <cpayan> Not everyone has OpenGL installed.
03:36 <luke-jr> nonsense
03:36 <cpayan> after all
03:36 <luke-jr> all desktop OS include OpenGL
03:36 <ct|kyle> not windows 7  (which I can crash with a floppy)
03:38 <cpayan> Heh, you're right. I assumed.
03:38 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: Windows doesn't count as anything but crap
03:38  * compguygene uses windows, not by his choice!
03:39 <luke-jr> compguygene: then why are you bragging it? :p
03:39 <ct|kyle> then why don't you force whoever is making you use it to not make you use it :P
03:39 <compguygene> not bragging, acknowelging the validity of your viewpoint.
03:39 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: wiki.answers.com says Windows 7 has OpenGL support
03:40 <ct|kyle> crappy then
03:40 <cpayan> ct|kyle, if i were trying to run an office environment and I had everything set up with one operating system, I wouldn't let someone change to soething completely different
03:40 <compguygene> I tried to force my family to use linux...and it worked better for most things.
03:40 <ct|kyle> tron looks like crap on it
03:40 <cpayan> well damn it, send it back to the drawing board
03:40 <cpayan> and keep it there until armagetron looks good!
03:40 <cpayan> :)
03:41 <ct|kyle> and maybe they were in my updates I got the other day
03:42 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: I thought you finally dropped that Windoze crud
03:42 <compguygene> nobody in my family liked either the dual boot solution or the "virtualize xp" solution for the few stupid bits of software they use that require windows...except my son...and my laptop died, which was all linux
03:43 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: I wanted to see if 7 fixed anything, it did not
03:43 <compguygene> this is a good example of users who want stuff that "just works"
03:43 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: I've only booted to it 2 or 3 times since december
03:43 <luke-jr> compguygene: WINE?
03:44 <compguygene> of course, i setup wine
03:44 <BabyBug> Firefox runs better under wine than it does native :(
03:44 <luke-jr> LOL
03:44 <cpayan> really?
03:44 <BabyBug> yup
03:44 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: that was tested using Fedora
03:44 <luke-jr> that's cuz Firefox is primarily a Windoze app
03:44 <cpayan> awesome
03:44 <ct|kyle> and everyone knows fedora is a pig
03:44  * luke-jr is not surprised in the least
03:44 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, the performance change appears obvious in ubuntu aswell
03:45 <compguygene> windoze version of arma works better on wine...but webkinz would not work for my daughter...and some of the sites my wife uses absolutly require internet explorer
03:45 <ct|kyle> it ran better in wine than xp though right?
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03:46 <compguygene> oh yeah....
03:46 <compguygene> personally, the only app i ever booted windoze for was google sketchup
03:46  * BabyBug wishes google chrome would hurry up
03:46 <compguygene> i do some part-time work that requires a 3-d modeler
03:46 <luke-jr> compguygene: MSIE runs fine in WINE
03:47 <luke-jr> Chrome is mere hype
03:47 <ct|kyle> compguygene: works in wine
03:47 <BabyBug> luke-jr, it can't be worse than firefox :)
03:47 <Pathetique> luke-jr: MSIE is shit.
03:47 <luke-jr> BabyBug: not sure on that
03:47 <compguygene> ie7 didn't at the time
03:47 <luke-jr> Pathetique: no crap
03:47 <luke-jr> compguygene: IE7 has worked for a few years now
03:47 <ct|kyle> compguygene: http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2007/12/google-sketchup-6-on-linux-and-freebsd.html
03:47 <Pathetique> I've had shits that performed better than IE.
03:47 <Pathetique> lol
03:47 <BabyBug> luke-jr, the alpha build runs better than firefox :P
03:48 <compguygene> well ty for the info...i am gonna get this family off windoze yet!
03:48 <luke-jr> compguygene: could always just forbid Windows use ☺
03:49 <compguygene> not that simple when it's my wife's computer, and a computer the kids paid for with their own money!
03:49 <ct|kyle> looking at my firefox ram usage it seams to spike up when a tab with flash / servelet is opened, then back down about 305 or so. then goes back to 288 eventually
03:49 <luke-jr> compguygene: you're the boss!
03:49 <luke-jr> compguygene: assert some authority!
03:49 <cpayan> Pathetique, your crap goes online?
03:49 <compguygene> but the kids have already agreed to let me dualboot
03:49 <compguygene> lol
03:49 <compguygene> i prefer a happy marriage ty very much!
03:50 <compguygene> I'll sneak it up on her...
03:50 <cpayan> lol
03:50 <luke-jr> what? she doesn't respect your authority?
03:50 <BabyBug> ahem!
03:50 <compguygene> no, she does, however
03:50 <Lucifer> heh
03:50 <cpayan> luke-jr, hush, it's not your life, after all
03:50 <BabyBug> luke-jr, why the fuck does a guy have more authority than a woman?
03:50 <compguygene> i prefer not to fight over a stupid os
03:50 <Lucifer> no shit, some of us don't *want* authority just because we have a penis
03:51 <Pathetique> Well said, Lucifer.
03:51 <luke-jr> BabyBug: because the woman brought us sin? I dunno ☺
03:51 <compguygene> i prefer to save that kind of fight for something of real life importance
03:51 <cpayan> compguygene, only luke-jr would think it's worth it to have a row over something so relatively trivial
03:51 <Pathetique> LOL@Nothing Fights.
03:51 <Lucifer> luke-jr: she didn't "bring us sin", she ate from the TREE OF KNOWLEDGE!
03:51 <BabyBug> luke-jr, the correct answer is "YOU DON'T!"
03:51 <luke-jr> cpayan: meh, my wife fully supports Linux-only policy
03:51 <Lucifer> knowledge is beautiful
03:51 <Lucifer> the real question is, why didn't Adam think of it?
03:51 <Lucifer> oh yeah, he was looking at the naked lady
03:51 <Pathetique> LOL
03:52 <cpayan> good for you, luke-jr. See how things are different from one situation to the next?
03:52 <Pathetique> Nothing fights are the best, gene.
03:52 <Lucifer> my ex supported linux-only policy
03:52 <cpayan> nothing makeup sex?
03:52 <compguygene> anyways, i appreciate the varied viewpoints
03:52 <Pathetique> lol
03:52 <Lucifer> actually, she didn't know how to do anything useful with a computer, so she needed me to maintain the things, and I said I wouldn't maintain a windows computer
03:52 <Pathetique> I pulled an ivantis earlier, I think.
03:53 <Lucifer> Pathetique: you said lots of really dumb things?
03:53 <Pathetique> LOLno
03:53 <Pathetique> I may have gotten my spawn time config include to run.
03:53 <Pathetique> When a server sets gamestate to GS_PLAY, spawnscript.cfg gets included.
03:53 <luke-jr> my wife knew how to use her Mac
03:53 <compguygene> keep in mind, i spent about 15 years maintaining dos/windoze computers and novell networks
03:53 <luke-jr> but I maintain the Gentoo that replaced it
03:53 <Pathetique> Its for those of us who aren't 1337 enough to do CT-style scripting.
03:54 <luke-jr> Pathetique: it's really simple with my hosting ☺
03:54 <Lucifer> compguygene: amazing your brain still works at all, then
03:54 <Pathetique> luke-jr: Somehow I manage to fuck it up.
03:54 <Pathetique> lol
03:54 <luke-jr> Pathetique: you haven't used my hosting afaik
03:54 <Pathetique> with my own vps, no.
03:54 <ct|kyle> Pathetique: what are you trying to do
03:54 <luke-jr> exactly
03:54 <BabyBug> Lucifer, How many tasks do you have left?
03:54 <compguygene> note, i quit working in the industry years ago
03:55 <Lucifer> BabyBug: 0, I finished
03:55 <Pathetique> Run a frakking script.
03:55 <ct|kyle> Pathetique: most likely you want to do it on GAME_TIME (some integer)
03:55 <Pathetique> I did that.
03:55 <Lucifer> now I'm just waiting for results
03:55 <BabyBug> Lucifer, so what does that mean now?
03:55 <BabyBug> oh
03:55 <Pathetique> Its getting PHP to talk to the server that I'm having trouble with.
03:55 <luke-jr> Pathetique: that's automatic w/ my hosting
03:55 <luke-jr> Pathetique: you just readline and echo
03:55 <Pathetique> I suppose not half-assing the PHP would help...but still..
03:55 <ct|kyle> script | Srever
03:56 <luke-jr> >_<
03:56 <Pathetique> LAWL.
03:56 <compguygene> well gnite all
03:56 <Lucifer> BabyBug: they'll give me my results sometime after the due date, which is 9am on Tuesday
03:56 <Pathetique> cu gene
03:56 <Lucifer> so I won't know until then
03:56 <BabyBug> oh ok :(
03:56 <BabyBug> that's ages!!
03:56 <compguygene> np...ty for the info
03:56 <Lucifer> however, IF I get that job, I've got a guy who can put me up for a little while, in exchange for help packing
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03:56 <Lucifer> yes, it is ages :(
03:56 <akira_arma> Lucifer: do you have a zthreadlib.a for me? :)
03:57 <Lucifer> akira_arma: noooo.........?  Was I supposed to compile one?
03:57 <Pathetique> google it
03:57 <Pathetique> googleftw
03:57 <luke-jr> uh
03:57 <akira_arma> winlibs is missing one :(
03:57 <luke-jr> isn't .a non-Windows?
03:57 <Pathetique> oh, well, then akira should port it.
03:57 <Lucifer> BabyBug: so, if I find out on Tuesday that I have a job, *and* I can squeeze in about 80 hours of work before the end of the month, I'll be able to move into my own place in mid-April
03:57 <Pathetique> :)
03:57 <akira_arma> well my compiler gives me an error
03:57 <Pathetique> Then tell it to STFU and work. :D
03:57 <Lucifer> mingw uses .a also, for static libraries, iirc
03:58 <akira_arma> and yes i tried to google but i gave up :(
03:58 <BabyBug> Lucifer, yay \o/ great news! and it'll mean no more watching out for coppers ;)
03:58 <akira_arma> do ask me to port something.. I am a total newb in this field
03:58 <Pathetique> lolmetoo
03:58 <Lucifer> heh, yeah :)
03:58 <Pathetique> I wrote C++ without knowing how to actually write it.
03:58 <luke-jr> akira_arma: just don't use zthread then
03:58 <luke-jr> akira_arma: it's optional
03:58 <Lucifer> Pathetique: luke-jr does that all the time
03:58 <Pathetique> Zthread isn't essential.
03:59 <Pathetique> Its just a convenience.
03:59 <akira_arma> luke-jr I have no idea how not to
03:59 <luke-jr> Lucifer: nah, I've bothered to learn C++ a bit
03:59 <akira_arma> i just followed to steps for buidling on windows
03:59 <luke-jr> I used to do that ;)
03:59 <akira_arma> and already fixed some errors
03:59 <Lucifer> akira_arma: it's a define, but I don't remember which define it is
03:59 <Pathetique> akira, did you have to do a ./configure or something like that?
03:59 <Pathetique> wait
03:59 <Lucifer> Pathetique: windows build doesn't work that way
03:59 <Pathetique> winblows doesn't have that.
03:59 <Pathetique> Lucifer: winblows*
03:59 <akira_arma> i use codeblocks..
04:00 <Pathetique> :D
04:00 <Lucifer> well, it *can* work that way, ours just doesn't
04:00 <BabyBug> Can you build a windows version using wine?
04:00 <Lucifer> it would be awesome if the autohell build system works on windows too
04:00 <Lucifer> BabyBug: yes
04:00 <Pathetique> unix-based OSs ftw
04:00 <BabyBug> oh...Then why are there like...0 people who compile it for windows?
04:00 <ct|kyle> KDE > gnome right BabyBug :)
04:00 <BabyBug> package*
04:00 <akira_arma> yea :(
04:00 <Pathetique> Because windows is gay.
04:01 <luke-jr> Lucifer: autoconf is supposed to work w/ MSYS, no?
04:01 <Lucifer> luke-jr: yes
04:01 <Pathetique> akira_arma: Do yourself a favor and download ubuntu.
04:01 <Lucifer> it's theoretically easy to get our build system working that way, but we'll probably need some more defines in a few places
04:02 <ct|kyle> kubuntu*
04:02 <luke-jr> we *should* be able to simple ./configure --host=mingw32 :/
04:02 <Pathetique> meh
04:02 <Lucifer> Pathetique: that would be a real step he could take towards actually freedom rather than letting the powers-that-be he's always whining about run his computer for him
04:02 <luke-jr> but I know from experience that does NOT work
04:02 <Pathetique> oic
04:02 <Pathetique> dualboot it then.
04:02 <Pathetique> IF the powers that be don't like it
04:02 <Pathetique> do it anyways.
04:02 <Pathetique> LOL
04:02 <ct|kyle> Pathetique: how are you trying to run this script
04:03 <Pathetique> ct|kyle: using the sample shell script provided on the wiki.
04:03 <Lucifer> luke-jr: it *should* work, if you have all the dependencies compiled
04:03  * Lucifer starts getting tempted again to try to cross-compile arma
04:03 <akira_arma> I have a linux
04:03 <ct|kyle> Pathetique: the one on Ct's
04:03 <Pathetique> yesm.
04:03 <BabyBug> Lucifer, give in to the temptation!
04:03 <akira_arma> I just use windows often
04:03 <luke-jr> Lucifer: yeah, *should*, but doesn't
04:03 <ct|kyle> scropt must not be working then
04:03 <akira_arma> Fedora I think
04:03 <ct|kyle> script*
04:04 <Lucifer> oh no, the temptation to make an age of sail combat simulator is greater!
04:04 <BabyBug> Lucifer, no! :@
04:04 <Pathetique> LOL
04:04 <BabyBug> you haven't done arma work in agessssssss (buildbot doesn't count)
04:05 <Pathetique> kyle, lemme pastebin my shell script
04:06 <ct|kyle> Pathetique: ok, but it probably is your PHP script
04:06 <Pathetique> I
04:06 <Pathetique> I'll do that too
04:06 <Lucifer> the problem with working on a new game is really very simple
04:07 <Lucifer> do I just go with SDL, or do I want to use Qt?
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04:07 <Pathetique> Shell script: http://rafb.net/p/4tMkYR99.html
04:07 <BabyBug> neither, you work on the old game
04:07 <Lucifer> but, an age of sail combat simulator would fucking rock!
04:07 <Pathetique> I was first trying to just get the sample you guys put up with the random DZs, except every second
04:07 <BabyBug> it would not!
04:07 <Lucifer> throw in some pirate story line, and there you go
04:07 <BabyBug> wtf is age of sail?
04:08 <Pathetique> I had it working for five minutes or so, but then I decided to try and make my own script
04:08 <Lucifer> sailing ships, with cannons and stuff
04:08 <Pathetique> and fuct it up.
04:08 <BabyBug> no that's a fail
04:08 <Lucifer> is *not*
04:08 <BabyBug> is *so*
04:08 <luke-jr> Pathetique: is that a word?
04:08 <Lucifer> there's a real need for an open source pirate game
04:08 <Pathetique> BabyBug: Age of _Fail_
04:08 <Lucifer> You guys suck, I want a new team.
04:08 <Pathetique> LOL
04:08 <Pathetique> luke-jr: Yarly. It is a real word.
04:08 <BabyBug> well tough titties, you stuck with us!
04:08 <ct|kyle> Pathetique: then it is probably the PHP
04:08 <BabyBug> you're*
04:09 <Pathetique> Its how I get away with saying fucked without saying "fucked"
04:09 <Pathetique> on Ww Servers
04:09 <ct|kyle> I think we need to make a new channel  #BabyBugsanasshat
04:09 <sinewav> :o
04:10 <Pathetique> As you can see I commented out my script in an attempt to get the sample one working again without losing my work.
04:10 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: NO
04:11 <Lucifer> oh shit, that reminds me
04:11 <Pathetique> LOL
04:11  * Lucifer was going to try to register an armagetronad group with freenode
04:11 <sinewav> can I be in it?
04:11 <Lucifer> just another one of those things BabyBug doesn't consider "working on arma"
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04:12 <Pathetique> For the interactive part of the spawn_zone command, can true be written as 1?
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04:12 <Pathetique> wb
04:13 <luke-jr> Lucifer: don't forget the channels currently under my name
04:13 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, we don't need an asshat channel thank you very much
04:14 <BabyBug> and Lucifer, that would be considered arma work
04:14 <luke-jr> Lucifer: or just register #Arma*
04:14 <luke-jr> I think you need #AFL too mayeb
04:14 <Pathetique> YAY I BRANCHED
04:15 <Lucifer> no, registering a group will give us, ummm, what's the word
04:15 <Pathetique> Authoritah, Lucifer?
04:15 <Lucifer> you know, when someone is, say, epsy@unaffiliated/epsy
04:15 <BabyBug> a hostmask?
04:15 <Lucifer> I'll be able to be lucifer@armagetronad/developer
04:15 <Lucifer> etc
04:15 <Pathetique> How to obtain hostmask?
04:16 <Lucifer> luke-jr: I'll probably want, when our group is approved, to start #armagetronad to replace this one and ask you to redirect this to that
04:16 <luke-jr> Lucifer: just beware, they take years to get back to you
04:16 <Lucifer> yeah, there's a big warning on the page, but it's the only way to get in right now
04:16 <luke-jr> Lucifer: FreeNode doesn't do permanent redirectors
04:16 <Lucifer> but this isn't the same as registering a channel, it's different
04:17 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: but we can't let luke-jr keep this monopoly going
04:17 <luke-jr> I know
04:17 <luke-jr> FreeNode staff approached me about it for my other channels
04:17 <Lucifer> BabyBug: maybe we should start #ct|kyle-isanasshat
04:17 <BabyBug> Lucifer, maybe we should
04:17 <Lucifer> after all, monopolies are bad
04:17 <BabyBug> defiantly
04:17 <ct|kyle> I knew that was going to come
04:17 <Lucifer> the first four letters of monopoly are the same as the first four letters of monotheism, so obviously it's bad
04:18 <luke-jr> Lucifer: what do you think of #0,0 ?
04:18 <Pathetique> we should prolly make #armabotisanasshat, too.
04:18 <Pathetique> btw luke-jr, #0 aktuly exists.
04:18 <BabyBug> where is armabot? :(
04:18 <BabyBug> I'm missing kicking people
04:18 <luke-jr> BabyBug: dead
04:18 <Pathetique> armabot had the runs.
04:18 <Pathetique> And then the flu.
04:18 <Lucifer> wrtlprnft: hey, what happened to armabot, anyway?
04:18 <ct|kyle> she got it from lizmatic
04:19 <Pathetique> LOL@ http://www.isitchristmas.com
04:19 <BabyBug> wrtlprnft hasn't spoke in days
04:19 <ct|kyle> .fetch http://www.isitchristmas.com
04:19 <tronner> ct|kyle: '\n\n<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">\n<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">\n<head>\n  <title>Is it Christmas?</title>\n  <link rel="alternate" title="Is It Christmas?" href="rss.xml" type="application/rss+xml" />\n  <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />\n  <script (3 more messages)
04:19 <Pathetique> Yeah, he never even replied to my bugreport about maptransform.py
04:20 <Pathetique> It likes to scale spawn directions
04:20 <Pathetique> so I had 0.4 for ydir.
04:20 <Pathetique> lol
04:20 <luke-jr> who was it advertising #0,0 in here the other day?
04:20 <Pathetique> MrBougo
04:20 <Pathetique> or something
04:20 <Pathetique> He also got ivantis to type /exec -o yes or soemthing
04:20 <luke-jr> -.-
04:20 <BabyBug> Lucifer, i thought you had armabot?
04:20 <Pathetique> and we were promtply flooded.
04:21 <ct|kyle> probably does for rotational purpose
04:21 <Lucifer> no, wrtlprnft has armabot right now
04:21 <BabyBug> but you have had it?
04:21 <Lucifer> when I finally get into a stable place, I may see if I can get armabot back
04:21 <Lucifer> yeah, I started armabot
04:21 <Pathetique> No, kyle, I simply scaled down a map file to 40% of the original size.
04:21 <BabyBug> i'm not going mad then :)
04:21 <Lucifer> I also started the wiki and then turned it over to guru3 :)
04:21 <Pathetique> And I noticed it and was like "lolololol"
04:21 <Lucifer> it's an open question who's going to wind up with the buildbot, heh
04:22 <Pathetique> Someone want to try and compile my branch?
04:22 <ct|kyle> Pathetique: yes but it is there for the rotation tools part
04:22 <BabyBug> lol, so who are you going to hand the buildbot over to?
04:22 <BabyBug> oh
04:22 <BabyBug> beat me to it :(
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04:22 <Lucifer> the wiki changed hands when my ex came up to me one day and said we should get divorced
04:22 <BabyBug> nice to see the wiki was one of your primary concerns during that
04:22 <Lucifer> not knowing what was going to happen next, I hit up the developer's only forum to get whatever arma assets I had taken off my hands
04:23 <Lucifer> well, this incident was worked out and we were together for another year after that
04:23 <Pathetique> I don't know if it will work because the configure script keeps saying "I've decided you're a fuckup and I'm going to be stubborn and not work without --enable-automake-defaults passed.
04:23 <Lucifer> so when the divorce finally *did* happen, I didn't have to worry about arma obligations, I had already taken care of them
04:23 <Pathetique> "
04:23 <BabyBug> =\
04:23 <BabyBug> lol
04:24 <Lucifer> but I think armabot had been passed to wrtlprnft before that time
04:24 <ct|kyle> I don't remember you ever having her
04:24 <Pathetique> http://www.fincher.org/CoinStacking/NickelSpiral.shtml
04:24 <Lucifer> it's possible wrtlprnft took over armabot at that time too
04:24 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: Armabot is Python
04:24 <Lucifer> now I'm curious
04:24 <luke-jr> that alone is proof
04:25 <Pathetique> Lucifer: You should start an art company that does that stuff in the link I just sent.
04:25 <BabyBug> hey wait, that doesn't make sense....I remember you having armabot...but i haven't been here that long
04:25 <BabyBug> i am going mad :(
04:25 <Pathetique> BabyBug: I don't think it really matters who has armabot.
04:25 <BabyBug> Pathetique, of course it does!
04:25 <ct|kyle> I know that is what I found funny
04:26 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: I bet you handed her over before the wiki
04:26 <ct|kyle> more like 2 years ago
04:26 <ct|kyle> I remember when the wiki happened
04:26 <Concord> You can do it higher, but it
04:26 <Concord> will take up a lot more nickels.
04:26 <Concord> wtf
04:27 <Concord> it won't take any more per layer than it did before!
04:27 <Lucifer> yeah, looks like armabot got transferred much earlier
04:27  * Lucifer doesn't even remember why armabot got moved
04:27 <Lucifer> we're approaching two years since the wiki handover
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04:27 <BabyBug> she ran away from you didn't she?
04:27 <ct|kyle> dam time is flying fast
04:28 <Lucifer> BabyBug: no, there was a performance problem, I remember that
04:28 <ct|kyle> but there still is one :P
04:28 <Lucifer> it was also during OS upgrade problems I was having, so maybe the armabot change was only supposed to be temporary
04:28 <BabyBug> Lucifer, yup...run away...leading to poor performance :P
04:28 <Lucifer> I don't remember, I do know that I wouldn't mind having armabot back now ;)
04:29 <Pathetique> brb, Quicktime won't force-quit.
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04:29 <luke-jr> we don't need armabot anymore ☺
04:29 <BabyBug> agreed!
04:29 <BabyBug> (not with luke-jr )
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04:32 <luke-jr> Pathetique: you're pathetic
04:32  * Lucifer wonders if the master2 redirect has been going on since the wiki handover
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04:36 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: no I think that was maybe in november of last year
04:37 <Lucifer> probably sooner than that, more like september or even august
04:37 <Lucifer> since that was when I left my ex
04:39  * Lucifer needs to quit thinking about that stuff and just find something to kill time for the weekend
04:39 <Lucifer> because on Tuesday, if I find out I got that job, I'm going to be busybusybusy
04:39 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: I was right it was in november
04:39 <Lucifer> really?
04:40 <ct|kyle> ya
04:40 <Lucifer> hmmm, maybe that was when I gave up on bringing my server back online, and we all just suffered without master2 in the meantime
04:40 <Lucifer> well, I definitely need to go to the store, bbiab
04:40 <ct|kyle> I think 2 masters were down at that time and guru3 pointed them to other locations
04:41 <BabyBug> bad arma devs!
04:41 <ct|kyle> we just pointed all ours to master4 (wrtls)
04:43 <BabyBug> why does the game have a list of master servers in the first place? Would just one subdomain and a round robin be more convenient? so that more could be added without having to add them to the game?
04:44 <luke-jr> BabyBug: becuase guru3 likes a DNS host that doesn't support RR
04:44 <BabyBug> oh...
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04:48 <Pathetique> *cue dramatic music* and so we begin...Pathetique creates yet another Time Machine backup.
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04:50 <luke-jr> pathetic
04:52 <Pathetique> luke-jr: http://www.funnyexamanswers.com/img/whereisthex.jpg
04:53 <Pathetique> BabyBug: http://www.funnyexamanswers.com/img/shesawoman.jpg
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05:11 <Lucifer> well, that's the first time that's ever happened to me
05:11 <Lucifer> a group of kids in a car cheering at me when they drove by
05:12 <Lucifer> I've been honked at, yelled "Get on the sidewalk you dumbshit" at me
05:12 <Lucifer> never cheered before
05:12 <luke-jr> LOL
05:15 <Lucifer> x=5, it's a 3,4,5 triangle
05:16 <Lucifer> I hope they weren't cheering sarcastically
05:17 <Pathetique> Hmmm?
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05:59 <sinewav> Holy crap, this article made me pee my pants...
05:59 <sinewav> http://funnyexamanswers.com/2007/10/24/find-the-height-of-a-building-using-a-barometer/
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06:54 <apparition> come to TR team sumo!
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07:08 <joda_bot> #m smoothice http://de.php.net/manual/en/pdo.lobs.php
07:08 <joda_bot> ah damn
07:08 <joda_bot> armabuilder: help
07:08 <armabuilder> Get help on what? (try 'help <foo>', or 'commands' for a command list)
07:08 <joda_bot> armabuilder: help tell
07:08 <armabuilder> no such command 'tell'
07:09 <joda_bot> armabuilder: help alias
07:09 <armabuilder> no such command 'alias'
07:09 <joda_bot> armabuilder: help echo
07:09 <armabuilder> no such command 'echo'
07:09 <joda_bot> armabuilder: version
07:09 <armabuilder> buildbot-0.7.9 at your service
07:09 <joda_bot> armabuilder: help commands
07:09 <armabuilder> Usage: commands - List available commands
07:09 <joda_bot> armabuilder: commands
07:09 <armabuilder> buildbot commands: commands, dance, destroy, excited, force, hello, help, join, last, leave, list, notify, source, status, stop, version, watch
07:10 <joda_bot> armabuilder: help notify
07:10 <armabuilder> Usage: notify on|off|list [<EVENT>] ... - Notify me about build events.  event should be one or more of: 'started', 'finished', 'failed', 'success', 'exception', 'successToFailed', 'failedToSuccess'
07:10  * joda_bot shakes head ...
07:12 <Lucifer> http://www.snopes.com/college/exam/barometer.asp
07:12 <Lucifer> joda_bot: armabuilder isn't a supybot
07:14 <joda_bot> Lucifer: I noticed just had hoped it could deliver messages too
07:14 <joda_bot> Lucifer: can't nickserv do that too ?
07:16 <Lucifer> I don't know, but I'm considering setting up a supybot again
07:16 <Lucifer> all the stuff that makes armabot work is in svn, unless wrtlprnft made changes he didn't commit
07:17 <joda_bot> Lucifer: hmm, ok, I'm not really sure we need another bot if I can send delayed messages :-)
07:17 <joda_bot> oh I can :D
07:18 <joda_bot> just have to add an buddy alert
07:19 <Lucifer> cloak, that's what it's called
07:19  * Lucifer is really freaking hungry
07:20 <joda_bot> Lucifer: I'd send you some food, but it'd be eaten or ruined before arrival
07:22  * joda_bot tries /msg memoserver Lucifer hi there message :-)
07:22 <joda_bot>  /msg Memoserv Lucifer hi there message :-)
07:24 <joda_bot> omg, MemoServ is a bit noisy :-)
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09:17 <epsy> haha
09:18 <Lucifer> #load CIA
09:18 <LuciBot> Lucifer: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
09:18 <Lucifer> #whoami
09:18 <LuciBot> Lucifer: I don't recognize you.
09:18 <Lucifer> #load CIA
09:18 <LuciBot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
09:18 <Lucifer> #join #CIA
09:19 <epsy> er
09:19 <epsy> isn't it #commits ?
09:19 <Lucifer> oh yeah
09:19 <Lucifer> #join #commits
09:19 <Lucifer> #part #CIA
09:19 <LuciBot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
09:19 <Lucifer> ok, fixed
09:19 <Lucifer> #help CIA
09:19 <LuciBot> Lucifer: Error: There is no command "cia".
09:19 <Lucifer> #list cia
09:19 <LuciBot> Lucifer: addhandler, describe, listhandlers, removehandler, and runhandler
09:20  * Lucifer doesn't remember how this plugin works
09:20 <epsy> what do you want to do?
09:20 <Lucifer> make it relay commit messages
09:20 <epsy> ah
09:20 <epsy> it was done on armabot with ChannelRelay
09:20 <Lucifer> you sure?
09:21 <Lucifer> that would be a change from how it worked whenever I gave armabot to wrtlprnft
09:21 <epsy> it was
09:21 <Lucifer> #quit
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09:22 <Lucifer> why are you pinging me?
09:22 <epsy> what's the "lightspeed" part for? :)
09:22 <Lucifer> beats me
09:22 <Lucifer> it's my roommate's internet connection
09:22 <epsy> so it is not actually light speed?
09:23 <Lucifer> not really, heh
09:23 <epsy> lol >.>
09:23  * Lucifer wants to know if he got the job *now*
09:23 <epsy> Lucifer, the other thing with group registration is that we can claim rights on a channel
09:24 <epsy> before the fancy hostmask stuff
09:25 <Lucifer> true, but I'm really not sure how useful that would be
09:25 <Lucifer> really, I'm just wanting to offer armagetronad cloaks to everyone :)
09:25 <epsy> heh
09:25 <epsy> oh yeah, the problem now
09:25 <epsy> we have many clan/team channels around
09:25 <Lucifer> I'm sure there's plenty of benefits to registering as a group besides that, but that's the one I'm after
09:26 <Lucifer> we can offer clan/team cloaks
09:26 <epsy> the freenode policy page states it as off-topic use
09:26 <epsy> we'd need to clear that our with the staff or, I'm afraid, change networks
09:26 <Lucifer> well, those clans and teams have to worry about it themselves ;)
09:27 <epsy> we have to worry about them having a relatively happy living
09:30 <Lucifer> no we don't
09:30 <Lucifer> us registering a group will not affect them directly
09:30 <epsy> no
09:31 <epsy> it won't
09:31 <epsy> it has always been like this
09:31 <Lucifer> it's possible that we can attempt to assimilate those channels, if freenode wants us to do so for them to be considered on-topic
09:32 <epsy> we have to get them on-topic
09:32 <Lucifer> I think those channels are within freenode's intent, if not letter of their policies
09:32 <epsy> http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#ontopic
09:32 <epsy> 10Non-Geographical Interest Group.  Non-geographical interest groups covering a variety of subjects may be on-topic. Please consult a staffer. Public discussion channels which adhere to the freenode  channel guidelines  are most likely to be considered favorably. With occasional exceptions, game player channels are discouraged under this category.
09:33 <Lucifer> #
09:33 <Lucifer> # Web Media. Members of blogger communities are welcome to set up channels associated with their sites or communities. Owners of forum or reference sites are welcome.
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09:34 <Lucifer> I'll bet they'd let us fly, assuming they cracked down in the first place
09:34 <Lucifer> since those clan/team channels (and our own tourney channel) are all formed around an open source game
09:34 <Lucifer> it's not like they're halo channels or what-have-you
09:35 <epsy> yeah, that's what I've been theorizing
09:35 <joda_bot> Lucifer: is freenode cleaning out channels ?
09:36 <Lucifer> joda_bot: no, just a paranoid frenchman in our midst
09:36 <epsy> best is to consult a staffer, really
09:36 <Lucifer> epsy: at one point I read freenode's guidelines and thought those extra channels were fine, but I suppose we should consult a staffer
09:36 <joda_bot> oh, yeah, I wasn't allowed to past more than 10 lines either :-P
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09:52 <epsy> bbl
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10:00 <joda_bot> ..
10:00 <joda_bot> hm :-)
10:01 <joda_bot> is there still a IRC ssl test server around ?
10:01 <joda_bot> I'd like that for my wireless here at university :-)
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12:01 <Vanhayes> .morning
12:05 <joda_bot> Vanhayes: hi
12:05 <joda_bot> bots are dying :D
12:10 <Vanhayes> maybe they are still sleeping
12:11 <Vanhayes> hmm, armabot been gone for a while
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13:17 <HyperDrive> hi all
13:17 <PinkTomato> Hey HyperDrive
13:17 <PinkTomato> did you fix FPS?
13:18 <HyperDrive> i got a 10% boost by not rendering the rim walls but it makes the game damn hard to play :P
13:18 <PinkTomato> what is your current FPS?
13:19 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: Can you play without sparks ? disable them
13:19 <HyperDrive> it starts at around 240 and quickly drops to about 20 near the end of the round
13:19 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: use bilinear instead of trilinear filtering
13:19 <joda_bot> :D
13:19 <HyperDrive> i have all details off etc
13:19 <HyperDrive> i do
13:19 <joda_bot> no gpu-wise anti-aliasing
13:19 <joda_bot> etc. :D
13:19 <HyperDrive> i even use swap mode set to fastest
13:20 <joda_bot> did you turn of displaylists too ?
13:20 <PinkTomato> What's your Graphics Card?
13:20 <joda_bot> u might get better performance with displaylists enabled
13:20 <HyperDrive> ive tried it both wats
13:20 <HyperDrive> ways*
13:20 <HyperDrive> doesnt seen to make any difference
13:20 <HyperDrive> its a sis mirage 3 :P
13:20 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: what kind of display do you use ? and how many FPS do you get ?
13:20 <HyperDrive> 1.73ghz celery
13:21 <HyperDrive> i just said lol
13:21 <HyperDrive> message lag :D
13:21 <joda_bot> HyperDrive:  :-), I guess it's more or less software rending what you see ? :D
13:21 <HyperDrive> i hope its hardware rendering
13:21 <HyperDrive> ?????
13:21 <joda_bot> I guess not :-)
13:21 <PinkTomato> Are you using a Graphics Driver?
13:22 <joda_bot> Mirage 3 sounds like a 2d card :-)
13:22 <PinkTomato> But it was 2006,
13:22 <HyperDrive> im sure its 3d hardware accelerated
13:22 <PinkTomato> should be OK enough maybe?
13:22 <HyperDrive> it must be
13:23 <HyperDrive> i have a game thats much more graphically intense and it runs smoother than arma
13:23 <HyperDrive> so it cant be software
13:23 <PinkTomato> When the game first started, was the walls white?
13:23 <HyperDrive> no
13:23 <HyperDrive> the bike or rim ?
13:23 <PinkTomato> Rim walls
13:23 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: heh, it supports 3d opengl / directx :D
13:23 <HyperDrive> ah I have tried it both ways
13:24 <HyperDrive> thats a good thing right :P
13:24 <HyperDrive> lol
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13:24 <HyperDrive> i dont know, maybe software would be faster in this card XD
13:24 <nsh22> hai
13:24 <HyperDrive> hi
13:25 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: what resolution do you play at ?
13:25 <HyperDrive> i was just in irc://moznet/chatzilla asking one of the help staff there for some help (being only my 2nd day in irc) and they banned me :"(
13:25 <nsh22> what you need help with?
13:25 <HyperDrive> ive tried all resolutions and have set it to the lowest
13:25 <joda_bot> lowest !!?
13:25 <HyperDrive> it renders fastest
13:25 <PinkTomato> 320 x 240?
13:25 <PinkTomato> that's crazy
13:25 <HyperDrive> 320 x 200
13:25 <joda_bot> hehe rofl
13:26 <HyperDrive> higher = slower
13:26 <joda_bot> What OS do you use anyway ?
13:26 <PinkTomato> Hopefully not NT 4
13:26 <HyperDrive> i have to use windows xp for arma because i cant find any 3d drivers for linux :(
13:26 <joda_bot> Windows 9x :D
13:26 <nsh22> i run windows 3.1 :P
13:26 <HyperDrive> i should try windows 9x
13:26 <PinkTomato> Hmm,
13:26 <joda_bot> can you lookup the version of the driver you've got installed
13:27 <nsh22> lol i used to have that os
13:27 <HyperDrive> yes
13:27 <joda_bot> I bet u have the default microsoft driver ?
13:27 <HyperDrive> one second
13:27 <PinkTomato> How much RAM?
13:27 <PinkTomato> joda_bot:  that's what I was thinking,
13:27 <PinkTomato> but if the rim walls weren't white..
13:27 <HyperDrive> ive tried both the default and new/older versions/oem/original etc etc
13:27 <HyperDrive> all about the same
13:27 <joda_bot> PinkTomato: the card can use upto 256MB (shared probably)
13:27 <joda_bot> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Ground0/Sis_Mirage
13:27 <HyperDrive> yeah shared hinkmemory i t
13:27 <HyperDrive> erm ?
13:28 <HyperDrive> yeah shared memory i think
13:28 <HyperDrive> lol thats better
13:28 <joda_bot> PinkTomato: sorry, just noticed the page i German
13:28 <HyperDrive> ok give me a moment
13:28 <PinkTomato> joda_bot: hehe :)
13:28 <HyperDrive> if possible could one of you ask irc://moznet/chatzilla to unban me :D
13:28 <HyperDrive> i did nothing wrong
13:28 <HyperDrive> lol
13:29 <PinkTomato> HyperDrive: I got banned in ubuntu-uk and never been there,
13:29 <HyperDrive> looking up drivers
13:29 <PinkTomato> the ban system in IRC is not very goos
13:29 <HyperDrive> what do you do ?
13:29 <HyperDrive> what i was asking support is how to talk in irc.justin.tv it asks for a password
13:30 <HyperDrive> but i regestered my name and password in irc already
13:30 <HyperDrive> thats exactly what i asked
13:30 <HyperDrive> sort of
13:30 <HyperDrive> lol
13:30 <nsh22> you need the password of the server
13:30 <HyperDrive> so why did they say that instead of banning me
13:30 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: hehe, you have to register for each IRC server network
13:30 <nsh22> iunno, maybeh they are duchebags?
13:31 <HyperDrive> i think so nsh22
13:31 <HyperDrive> i was talking to one help there yesterday for 3 hours
13:31 <HyperDrive> very nice person
13:31 <HyperDrive> we played a few online games
13:31 <HyperDrive> talked about all kinds of crap
13:31 <HyperDrive> today i ask 1 question to someone else and get banned
13:31 <HyperDrive> what a bastard
13:31 <nsh22> HyperDrive: i think joda_bot is right, try to register on that network
13:32 <PinkTomato> Anyways, Right Click Properties
13:32 <HyperDrive> how can I register if I cant enter :P
13:32 <PinkTomato> on desktop
13:32 <HyperDrive> im confused
13:32 <HyperDrive> oh yeah drivers hold on
13:32 <PinkTomato> Intel G288 ...
13:32 <nsh22> well then your not getting in if you dont know the pass :P
13:32 <PinkTomato> A line like that
13:32  * joda_bot searches the driver ... because it might not even be an sis mirage 3 :-P
13:32 <PinkTomato> Except it will be different
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13:33 <PinkTomato> "Something" on Plug and Play Monitor
13:33 <HyperDrive> sis 672 128mb memory, driver version (im currently using the microsoft crap as the others didnt seem to make any difference)
13:34 <PinkTomato> Try the SIS driver again,
13:34 <PinkTomato> but reset the armagetron setting file
13:35 <PinkTomato> g2g, good luck :)
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13:35 <HyperDrive> ok thanks
13:36 <HyperDrive> can someone do me a favor and ask irc://moznet/chatzilla to unban me, let them know its only my 2nd day on irc and I have no idea what im doing XD
13:36 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: I guess the ban expires tomorrow ... don't think it's permanent
13:37 <HyperDrive> you dont want to ask them joda ?
13:37 <joda_bot> I'm not online there
13:37 <HyperDrive> you cannot go online there ?
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13:38 <HyperDrive> see I have no idea how this irc works
13:38 <HyperDrive> I seem to be able to go everywhere ?
13:38 <akira_arma> O.o
13:38 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: you're from the us ?
13:38 <HyperDrive> uk
13:39 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: try this http://www.sis.com/download/download_step2.php?id=155944&country=UK&Image791.x=73&Image791.y=9
13:39 <joda_bot> I hope you can directly enter the captcha and download ?
13:39 <HyperDrive> thanks is that for linux or xp ?
13:39 <joda_bot> xp
13:40 <HyperDrive> thanks i'll try it and also search again for the linux driver, i did search before when I was trying to render some 3d stuff on 3dmax but gave up
13:41 <HyperDrive> oO they have linux near the bottom of the list :D
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13:41 <HyperDrive> possibly :P
13:41 -!- neal_arma is now known as nsh22
13:41 <joda_bot> http://www.sis.com/download/ ... click through the questions to get your driver
13:42 <HyperDrive> damn they have 67x series for xp but not for linux
13:42 <HyperDrive> i'll get the xp
13:42 <joda_bot> I guess there might be a linux driver, which might not make Armagetron any faster than on Windows
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13:42 <nsh22> HyperDrive: are you still running arma without rendereedd wall?
13:43 <HyperDrive> i turn it on and off with the render_rimwall 0/1 command I added
13:43 <epsy> hi
13:43 <HyperDrive> that should be 1/0 lol
13:43 <nsh22> o0, wouldnt that make playing slightly difficult?
13:43 <HyperDrive> very :D
13:43 <epsy> joda_bot, freenode has ssl afaik
13:44 <nsh22> what mode do you play? ctfs, sumo, fort, hr, df etc
13:44 <HyperDrive> but its quite good, maybe it should be made a server feature for extra hard bastard players :D
13:44 <epsy> now I'm not sure if they have ipv6+ssl :D
13:44 <HyperDrive> only standard
13:44 <nsh22> @google afaik
13:44 <joda_bot> epsy: afaik they only tested it
13:44 <teabot> nsh22: http://www.netlingo.com/word/afaik.php - AFAIK - NetLingo The Internet Dictionary: Online Dictionary of ...
13:44 <epsy> how did you do that
13:44 <epsy> @plugin google
13:44 <teabot> epsy: The "google" command is available in the QGoogle plugin.
13:44 <epsy> @list Google
13:44 <teabot> epsy: cache, calc, fight, lucky, meta, phonebook, spell, and stats
13:45 <epsy> oh
13:45 <epsy> I removed it hehe
13:45 <nsh22> @google fight
13:45 <teabot> nsh22: Error: I tried to send you an empty message.
13:45 <HyperDrive> hmmm yoda whats the difference between gpu and igp ?
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13:45 <epsy> gpu means graphics processing unit and igb intel graphics processor? xD
13:45 <joda_bot> nooooo
13:46 <joda_bot> igp = intregrated graphic processor
13:46 <joda_bot> on chip
13:46 <epsy> that's pretty much a synonym to "intel graphics processor" or "shitty gpu"
13:46 <joda_bot> it's not a separate graphics card or chip, it also does IO
13:46 <joda_bot> :-P
13:46 <HyperDrive> weird my xp says the drivers are 672 but in the hardware manager it says the service is 315 ?
13:47 <HyperDrive> now im really confused
13:47 <HyperDrive> i have both sis672 and sis315 listed
13:47 <HyperDrive> on the same driver ?
13:47 <nsh22> ]ping
13:48 <nsh22> ...
13:48 <HyperDrive> at the sis download site they have a sis315 gpu driver and a sis67x igp driver lol
13:48 <HyperDrive> now what do I do XD
13:48 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: do you have a bill or any reference what computer you bought ?
13:49 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: if you can find out the manufactor of the pc or even better mainboard
13:49 <HyperDrive> lol £60 2nd hard from market with a smashed power input socket which i had to replace, bill was scribbled on an envelope in pencil XD
13:49 <HyperDrive> hand*
13:50 <HyperDrive> theres the problem
13:50 <HyperDrive> its a u40si1
13:50 <HyperDrive> it can be branded by uniwill, e systems, many many more...
13:50 <HyperDrive> ive tried the uniwill drivers
13:50 <HyperDrive> same as the windows xp default drivers
13:51 <HyperDrive> i'll download both the 67x and the 315 from the sis site and see what happens
13:51 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: you read the "u40si1" from the platine print ?
13:52 <HyperDrive> the u40si1 is the correct mother board number but its from the case sticker, theres also the e systems model number which is 4213
13:56 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: have you ever looked inside and confirmed the number from the board ?
13:57 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: I just want to exclude the problem that someone upgraded / changed the hardware in the case
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13:58 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: wait it's a notebook ? :D
13:58 <HyperDrive> I stripped the thing to desolder the broken power input socket but for some reason I didnt look for the model number :(
13:58 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: ok, now you don't have to open it
13:58 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: hheh, they don't change notebooks mainboard ... never heard of that :D
13:58 <HyperDrive> you can see the crappy thing here http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=204970#204970
13:59 <HyperDrive> actually its not so bad, it works well
14:00 <HyperDrive> firefox 3.06 loads from cold in about 4 seconds and if already running reopening a new firefox takes about 1.5 seconds, im happy with that
14:01 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: let me check the manual ... :D
14:01 <HyperDrive> you probably have the same service manual as I :D
14:02 <joda_bot> you might have a look too, if it matches your notebook :D
14:02 <joda_bot> http://www.uniwill.com/UserDownload/u40si1/u40si1.php
14:02 <HyperDrive> its very detailed on disassembly and replacing stuff
14:04 <HyperDrive> yeah thats the user manual i have that too, the hardware service manual is better, shows the step by step exploded diagram stuff on how to dismantle its very nice
14:04 <HyperDrive> ive lost the link
14:04 <HyperDrive> http://www.uniwill.com/UserDownload/u40si1/drivers/xp/VGA.zip is the driver im currently using
14:05 <HyperDrive> for sure
14:05 <HyperDrive> i'll try the one from the sis site too
14:05 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: You've got both! Core Logic : SIS M672 + SIS 968      AND GPU/VGA: SIS M672 + SIS 307ELV
14:05 <joda_bot> try installing and using the 307 gpu driver
14:05 <HyperDrive> are you sure ? my sistem tells me i have 315 and 672 ?
14:06 <epsy> guru3, http://forums.armagetronad.net/images/avatars/158311123349c34d7745cfc.png ?
14:06 <HyperDrive> maybe my drivers are wrong
14:06 <HyperDrive> damn my virus scanner has been moaning for 2 days that it wants to update lol
14:07 <epsy> can't boot windows without it prompting for updates
14:07 <epsy> each time I boot it it shows me updates
14:07 <HyperDrive> i cannot access the sis site now ?
14:07 <joda_bot> epsy: same goes for linux if you ask the packagemanager and do not maintain/start linux regulary
14:07 <HyperDrive> i have windows updates turned off
14:07 <HyperDrive> oO
14:08 <joda_bot> the site works fine
14:08 <epsy> joda_bot, I do click shutdown&update
14:08 <HyperDrive> i also spent a day shutting down all the windows xp open ports XD
14:08 <HyperDrive> all the crappy services
14:08 <HyperDrive> that was a pain in the ...
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14:09 <epsy> it's like I could boot windows 15 times and install updates, it would still show me updates
14:09 <nsh22> oh hey hype
14:09 <HyperDrive> i think i'll have to clear firefox's cache. its gone nuts
14:09 <Hyp3> hey im new to dis place
14:09 <nsh22> im neal btw
14:09 <epsy> hi
14:09 -!- akira_arma [n=chatzill@77-64-161-27.dynamic.primacom.net] has joined #armagetron
14:09 <Hyp3> hey dude
14:09 <Hyp3> well i have a very big dilemma
14:09 <akira_arma> O.o
14:09 <nsh22> Hyp3: if you want to type somones name, just start typing it and press tab
14:09 <Hyp3> hopefully sum1 here can help
14:10 <Hyp3> k
14:10 <Hyp3> i have a need for a competitive gaming ladder
14:10 <Hyp3> like it has challenge abilities
14:10 <Hyp3> php of course
14:10 <epsy> for arma?
14:10 <epsy> ah
14:10 <Hyp3> for an amra related site
14:11 <joda_bot> epsy: XP is ok, with pre-included Servicepacks ... from my perspective xp without SP3 is like upgrading ubuntu from 4 years ago :-)
14:11 <epsy> you want to build a gaming ladder
14:11 <Hyp3> yeh
14:11 <nsh22> epsy: he cant write in php
14:11 <Hyp3> well i cant build as im retarded at tht stuff
14:11 <epsy> joda_bot, I'm just waiting for QL to be ported to linux, then I can scrap windows
14:11 <Hyp3> lol what he said
14:11 <epsy> how do you plan on maintaining a thing this big if you don't know php ?
14:12 <nsh22> i think hes asking if anyone has something like that
14:12 <Hyp3> as in i can manage it, just cant create it
14:12 <joda_bot> epsy: :D I already wondered what made u use it :-P
14:12 <HyperDrive> hmm i cannot access sis.com
14:12 <Hyp3> and i have shoebat to assist me
14:12 <epsy> joda_bot, that's the only thing that made me bring back windows in my boot menu lol
14:13 <Hyp3> he works with php as a profession but doesnt have the time for this
14:13 <epsy> if you can't create it you can't manage it
14:13 <Hyp3> he can only install them for me
14:13 <HyperDrive> Network Timeout
14:13 <HyperDrive> The server at sis.com is taking too long to respond.
14:13 <epsy> HyperDrive, same here it seems
14:13 <epsy> HyperDrive, bad luck :o)
14:13 <HyperDrive> damn i download 1 driver and the site shuts down
14:13 <epsy> HyperDrive, well there is no such software yet especially for arma
14:14 <HyperDrive> i ask one question in support and get banned
14:14 <epsy> Hyp3, *
14:14 <Hyp3> also i probably wnt be the one maintaining it as i will most probably hand it over to destiny to run
14:14 <HyperDrive> whats going on today :P
14:14 <joda_bot> Epsy's boot menu:
14:14 <joda_bot> Welcome epsy, what do you want to do today?
14:14 <joda_bot> 1) excellent Gentoo Linux with 1337 untained OpenSource
14:14 <joda_bot> 2) Quake Live (imprisoned in Crappy ol' WinXp)
14:14 <epsy> Hyp3, so you'd have to take a ladder engine and adapt it to arma
14:14 <epsy> joda_bot, :(
14:14 <joda_bot> sis.com still works for me
14:15 <HyperDrive> have you guys played ignition ?
14:15 <epsy> joda_bot, also, I use arch now
14:15 <HyperDrive> oh still working hmm
14:15 <HyperDrive> i'll try again
14:15 <HyperDrive> lemme pingit
14:15 <epsy> joda_bot, but that's pretty much it
14:15 <Hyp3> by adapt do u mean connect i mean like CTF game type and use the ladder as a ranking system and an automated way of challenges for clan wars
14:15 <joda_bot> epsy: don't take my teasing serious ... I used gentoo , too :-)
14:15 <HyperDrive> Reply from bytes=32 time=345ms TTL=238
14:15 <epsy> by adapt it I mean making it communicate with an arma server
14:15 <HyperDrive> hmmm
14:15 <joda_bot> but I just like the tainted windows crap better ... for now
14:15 <HyperDrive> do you get the same ip
14:16 <Hyp3> nonon not any of that
14:16 <epsy> joda_bot, it's annoying
14:16 <Hyp3> and offsite ladder where people sign up and enter the results
14:16 <joda_bot> epsy: so what do you use ?
14:16 <epsy> arch?
14:16 <epsy> Hyp3, ah
14:16 <Hyp3> etc. they make the challenge then they play the match on arma then they enter the result and it is generated
14:16 <joda_bot> sis.com ->
14:16 <epsy> lackadaisical made such a thing afaik
14:16 <Hyp3> i have examples of this.
14:17 <Hyp3> yeh he did he made a sumo 1v1 ladder
14:17 <epsy> just wait for him to hop by or leave him a message on the forums
14:17 <Hyp3> ive seen it it is very shnazzy
14:17 <joda_bot> epsy: is arch a distribution ? :-?
14:17 <nsh22> Hyp3:  do you have an arma forums account?
14:17 <Hyp3> the main armaforum?
14:17 <epsy> joda_bot, arch short for archlinux, not GNU arch
14:17 <nsh22> yeah
14:17 <joda_bot> epsy: or did I guess right and you use gentoo ?
14:17 <Hyp3> nope
14:18 <nsh22> get one
14:18 <epsy> (which I'm not sure it is still GNU)
14:18 <nsh22> www.forums.armagetronad.net
14:18 <Hyp3> and i believe Ww is willing to pay through donations of the ones interested
14:18 <epsy> gah, remove that www. NOW
14:18 <nsh22> forums.armagetronad.net
14:18 <nsh22> :P
14:18 <epsy> good boy
14:18 <HyperDrive> weird i can get a ping response from sis.com but thats about all
14:18 <nsh22> whats wrong wth www. ?
14:18 <joda_bot> www.epsy.forums.armagetronad.net :-P
14:18 <epsy> looks odd
14:19 <joda_bot> hm, atleast my link is broken *happy*
14:19 <nsh22> any1 know what the adrees is to the *new* forums?
14:19 <HyperDrive> thanks for talking about www i just tried www.sis.com and it works but sis.com doesnt lol
14:19 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: did you read my private messages ?
14:20 <HyperDrive> no i didnt sorry joda
14:20 <joda_bot> ...
14:20 <epsy> lol >.>
14:20 <Hyp3> and i believe Ww is willing to pay through donations of the ones interested
14:20 <nsh22> any1 know what the url is to the *new* forums?
14:20 <nsh22> Hyp3: pay for what?
14:20 <epsy> the new forums?
14:20 <Hyp3> like how much would a good php scripted lader cost?
14:20 <nsh22> epsy: the one being developed now
14:21 <joda_bot> Hyp3: developing a ranking system takes some time, I don't have ... and I don't think it would pay for my life ? :)
14:21 <nsh22> if lacka has already made one...
14:21 <Hyp3> lol i mean bying an already scripted one of the onterweb
14:21 <epsy> nsh22, there's discussion about a new theme and that's about it
14:21 <Hyp3> lacka's one didnt have the challenge system i dont think
14:22 <nsh22> epsy: oh, i thought i saw guru3 talking about it
14:22 <epsy> something like GGL ?
14:22 <Hyp3> ibelieve he manually entered the results through an admin cpanel
14:22 <joda_bot> GLL ?
14:22 <Hyp3> the one we are looking for is fully automated and results and challenges are made by the competitors
14:22 <epsy> no, GGL
14:22 <nsh22> @gtfy Hyp3 GLL
14:22 <teabot> Hyp3: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=GLL
14:23 <Hyp3> ?
14:23 <epsy> then that's not fully automatic :)
14:23 <Hyp3> well lol
14:23 <nsh22> a fullyty automatic would take the stats from the server...
14:23 <Hyp3> destiny doesnt have the time to be on everyday for the results
14:23 <Hyp3> automated
14:23 <epsy> that wouldn't be automatic either
14:23 <Hyp3> u understand... -.-
14:24 <epsy> what forum software do you use ?
14:24 <Hyp3> or not,,
14:24 <nsh22> @gtfy Hyp3 GGL
14:24 <teabot> Hyp3: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=GGL
14:24 <Hyp3> its not my forum software is destiny and mantas they just upgraded to have a ladder in it but it faulted and it is now useless
14:25 <Hyp3> www.lmgtfy?
14:25 <nsh22> just do it...
14:25 <epsy> the .com part is really more important than the www. one
14:25 <Hyp3> LOL
14:25 <Hyp3> hehe
14:25 <Hyp3> thts funny
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14:26 <epsy> but what forum software is it? ..
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14:26 <Hyp3> hmmm
14:26 <BabyBug> Hello
14:26 <Hyp3> i wonder.....
14:26 <epsy> :d
14:26 <nsh22> phpbb3 i think
14:26 <nsh22> BabyBug: ...
14:26 <Hyp3> yeh...thts it
14:26 <Hyp3> OH YEAH
14:26 <Hyp3> phpbbrival
14:26 <Hyp3> or sumfin
14:26 <epsy> yeah that
14:26 <nsh22> @google phpbbrival
14:26 <teabot> nsh22: http://www.phpbbrivals.com/ - phpBB Rivals
14:27  * joda_bot let's epsy herd the ctf-crowd
14:27 <epsy> mm?
14:28 <Hyp3> lol
14:28 <epsy> wow, freshmeat has a new face
14:28 <Hyp3> yeh the ladder is going to be for all game types i think
14:29 <nsh22> huh?
14:29 <Hyp3> to step up tron tourneys
14:29 <nsh22> Hyp3: whats wrong with the current ladder?
14:29 <guru3> hi all
14:29 <nsh22> hai
14:29 <nsh22> guru3: there no site yet for the *new* site is here?
14:29 <Hyp3> they dnt have a ladder
14:30 <guru3> no
14:30 <nsh22> Hyp3: they used to
14:30 <nsh22> oh ok
14:30 <guru3> because there is no new site
14:30 <Hyp3> they have server ladders
14:30 <Hyp3> but no clan war ladder
14:30 <nsh22> i meant "developing"
14:30 <Hyp3> except for a manual excel spread sheet one
14:31 <nsh22> Hyp3: i remeber they used to have a tournamant ladder and stuff
14:31 <Hyp3> hmm not anymore
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14:32 <nsh22> Hyp3: what happened?
14:32 <nsh22> i havent been on in ages
14:32 <Hyp3> they have only excel ones tht i know of
14:32 <Hyp3> and they got one with the new website but its faulty
14:32 <nsh22> how so?
14:33 <Hyp3> uhh couldnt record results
14:33 <Hyp3> and sutffz
14:33 <Hyp3> go read armagetron tourneys section
14:33 <nsh22> maybe they should just reinstall phpbbrivals
14:35 <Hyp3> maybe
14:35 <Hyp3> well ima go to bed
14:35 <nsh22> night
14:35 <Hyp3> guess dest may find a good ladder
14:35 <nsh22> @night
14:35 <Hyp3> all we need is da moneys
14:35 <teabot> Good-night, nsh22!
14:35 <Hyp3> bb
14:36 <Zurd> and i just woke up o.O
14:36 -!- Hyp3 [n=hyp3@cor8-ppp4528.mel.dsl.connect.net.au] has quit ["Leaving"]
14:36 <nsh22> its free.
14:36 <nsh22> ffs
14:36 <guru3> epsy: just an idea
14:37 <epsy> ]last --from epsy --with guru3
14:37 <nsh22> hes not here
14:37 <epsy> @last --from epsy --with guru3
14:37 <teabot> epsy: [06:37:02] <epsy> ]last --from epsy --with guru3
14:37 <nsh22> but hes in #anime tho :P
14:37 <epsy> @last --from epsy --with guru3 --nolimit
14:37 <teabot> epsy: [06:37:23] <epsy> @last --from epsy --with guru3, [06:37:02] <epsy> ]last --from epsy --with guru3, and [06:06:02] <epsy> guru3, http://forums.armagetronad.net/images/avatars/158311123349c34d7745cfc.png ?
14:37 <epsy> guru3, and does it mean anything?
14:38 <nsh22> stupid epsy maybeh?
14:38 <nsh22> :P
14:38 <guru3> not to armagetron
14:38 <epsy> ok?
14:38 <guru3> just an idea of mine im playing with
14:39 <epsy> :x
14:39 <guru3> wanted to see it in a diffrernt context
14:43 <BabyBug> epsy, what did you mean by anything new?
14:44 <epsy> @last --from BabyBug --with bzrlib
14:44 <teabot> epsy: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 1000 messages.
14:44 <epsy> batch/make/version.py
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14:46  * nsh22 waves
14:46 <smoothice> hi there nsh221
14:47 <smoothice> !
14:47 <epsy> BabyBug, are you even trying or I have to do it myself?
14:47 <smoothice> ANyone know when armagetron-php-client will up updated for use with protocol buffers??
14:47 <smoothice> be*
14:47 <BabyBug> epsy, figured out how to run the same bzr commands that in the bash file, using bzrlib. But i had to dash off before putting any of it in version.py.
14:47 <epsy> when there's protobuf for php
14:48 <smoothice> hmm
14:48 <epsy> ok
14:48 <smoothice> you sure?
14:48 <smoothice> I'm trying to do server status for my 0.3 fort server
14:48 <smoothice> but it returns php errors
14:48 <epsy> actually, it already exists
14:48 <joda_bot> epsy: protobuf's lastrelease was 2007 ?
14:49 <smoothice> nsh22: you heard of trunk-armagetronad-fortressai?
14:49 <joda_bot> epsy: or I recall the wrong lib/site :-)
14:49 <smoothice> code.google.com/protobuf
14:49 <smoothice> or not
14:49 <epsy> joda_bot, no, it's brand new
14:49 <nsh22> smoothice: erm, ive heard z-man talk about fort ai :p
14:50 <epsy> smoothice, so there just needs to be someone to port it
14:51 <smoothice> ...
14:51 <smoothice> great
14:52  * nsh22 elects smooth to port php
14:52 <epsy> yeah go port php
14:52 <smoothice> I
14:52 <smoothice> I'm not snart enough to understand protobuf
14:52 <smoothice> smart8
14:52 <smoothice> *
14:53 <smoothice> I honestly don't get it
14:53 <nsh22> or type obviously :P
14:53 <joda_bot> smoothice: did you get my message ?
14:53 <smoothice> joda_bot: no
14:53 <epsy> what don't you get?
14:54 <smoothice> Protocol Buffers are a way of encoding structured data in an efficient yet extensible format. Google uses Protocol Buffers for almost all of its internal RPC protocols and file formats.
14:54 <smoothice> I don't understand that
14:54 <epsy> where do you hic in this?
14:54 <smoothice> ?
14:55 <epsy> where do you block? what word?
14:55 <smoothice> encoding structured data in an efficient yet extensible format
14:55 <smoothice> what does it mean to do that
14:55 <epsy> structured data
14:56 <epsy> do you get that?
14:56 <smoothice> data that is structured?
14:56 <epsy> good
14:56 <epsy> encoding?
14:56 <smoothice> yes
14:56 <epsy> format?
14:56 <smoothice> yes
14:56 <epsy> something extensible
14:56 <smoothice> yes for the rest of it
14:56 <smoothice> -.-
14:56 <smoothice> you know epsy
14:57 <smoothice> when I need help from you
14:57 <smoothice> I don't get it
14:57 <smoothice> When I don't need help from you
14:57 <smoothice> I get it
14:57 <smoothice> -.-
14:57 <guru3> all perls of wisdom should be equally treasured
14:57 <smoothice> ?
14:57 <epsy> I don't think you need help from me for english do you? :)
14:57 <smoothice> ...
14:57 <nsh22> lmao
14:58 <nsh22> i dlike to learn french by april 4th :P
14:58 <nsh22> i have grade 10 french :P
14:58 <smoothice> epsy: screw protobuf
14:58 <Vanhayes> do you know any right now?
14:58 <smoothice> epsy: Who gives a crap
14:58 <nsh22> smoothice: you do
14:58 <smoothice> not anymore
14:59 <nsh22> Vanhayes: oui
14:59 <Vanhayes> nsh22, french is only good to learn if you will use it, otherwise you will forget alot of it
14:59 <nsh22> im going to france soon so...
15:00 <nsh22> im stalking epsy  while im there :P
15:00 <smoothice> epsy cannot be stalked
15:00 <smoothice> he'd run to Germany
15:00 <nsh22> then id follow him
15:00 <Vanhayes> bon chance then
15:00 <nsh22> :P
15:00 <smoothice> nsh22: creeper
15:00 <nsh22> smoothice: liar
15:01  * Vanhayes had to take french all through school
15:01 <Vanhayes> now i barely know any
15:01 <nsh22> same, except i styopped at grade 10
15:01 <nsh22> ok, homework now!
15:01 <Vanhayes> we are the only official biligual province so we have to take it all the way
15:01 <guru3> i had spanish instead of french
15:01 <nsh22> lol
15:02 <Vanhayes> not many spanish speaking people in these parts, so spanish was optional
15:02 <guru3> i lived in souther us
15:02 <guru3> large hispanic population
15:03 <smoothice> what state?
15:03 <smoothice> texas?
15:03 <nsh22> the only languiage my hs offers is french, i think thats quite gay
15:03 <smoothice> Texas, where thou Lucifer calls home?
15:03 <nsh22> smoothice: sites still down
15:03 <guru3> i said south, not west
15:03 <Vanhayes> i think our population in saint john is like 90% white 5% chinese and 5% others
15:03 <smoothice> texas is SOUTH w e s t LOL
15:04 <guru3> an american would say texas was in the west
15:04 <guru3> or mid-west
15:04 <guru3> never south
15:04 <Vanhayes> or wild west
15:04 <smoothice> lol...
15:04 <Vanhayes> isnt texas the farthest south?
15:04 <nsh22> fiking amaericans...
15:04 <nsh22> :P
15:04 <smoothice> fiking canadions..
15:04 <smoothice> :P
15:05 <smoothice> LOL!
15:05 <nsh22> :P
15:05 <guru3> it maybe, but it's still not the south
15:05 <smoothice> nsh22: go do your homework... this is big boy talk
15:05 <smoothice> nsh22: LOL
15:05 <nsh22> smoothice: i will kill you :P
15:05 <epsy> http://www.chiptune.com/kaleidoscope/
15:05  * nsh22 throws a butter knife at smoothice 
15:06 <nsh22> from canada
15:06 <Vanhayes> thats just weird, if its in the south it should be southern
15:06 <Vanhayes> though canada doesnt really have any sout, just north and northener
15:07 <HyperDrive> hello
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15:07 <smoothice> nsh22: shocks nsh22 with an exposed cable he has in his closet
15:07 <nsh22> ... we have maritimes, praries, west coast, ontario and the frenchlands :P
15:07 <nsh22> smoothice: cool
15:07 <Vanhayes> and teritories
15:07 <nsh22> i do need alittle energy today
15:07 <smoothice> nsh22: now go to do your homework and don't get exposed to too much of this big boy talk
15:08 <smoothice> nsh22: you'll have nightmares :P
15:08 <nsh22> smoth, im like 3 years older than you :P
15:08 <Vanhayes> plus newfoundland, they arent part of the maritimes
15:08 <smoothice> nsh22: so
15:08 <smoothice> nsh22: ?
15:08 <nsh22> smoothice: so stfu :P
15:08 <nsh22> smoothice: i own your life :P
15:08 <smoothice> nsh22: WTF?
15:08 <smoothice> nsh22: LOL!
15:08 <smoothice> nsh22: you own my life
15:08 <smoothice> nsh22: I own u!
15:08 <smoothice> nsh22: OWND!
15:08 <nsh22> smoothice: i bought it from your parents for $29.99
15:08 <smoothice> nsh22: wow that's expensive
15:09 <smoothice> nsh22: thank's dude!
15:09 <smoothice> nsh22: ownd
15:09 <nsh22> it came with your macbook
15:09 <smoothice> nsh22: ok lets stfu
15:09 <epsy> cough
15:09 <nsh22> ok lol
15:09 <smoothice> lol
15:09 <smoothice> epsy: ...
15:09 <nsh22> epsy: ROBITUSIN!
15:09 <smoothice> ?
15:09 <Vanhayes> get tussed up
15:09 <nsh22> never seen that commercial?
15:12 <Vanhayes> hmm, seems parts of canada are further sout than parts of california
15:12  * Vanhayes did not know that
15:16 <HyperDrive> my silly rim wall rendering mod http://rafb.net/p/1FP8n718.html
15:22 <HyperDrive> see you all later (I hope) im off to play a few rounds of arma then get on with some work
15:23 <HyperDrive> Thanks again Joda for your help
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15:32 <BabyBug> epsy, Why is ZNR used? (what does it even stand for?)
15:32 -!- emphasis [n=rolf@188-133-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl] has joined #armagetron
15:33 <epsy> it's the z-number
15:33 <epsy> basically, it's the revision count inclduing merged revisions
15:33 <BabyBug> ohhh ok
15:34 <epsy> in the shell version, it is computed by counting the number of lines in bzr log's ouput
15:34 <epsy> or bzr ancestors
15:34 <epsy> basically, it usually ensures an ever growing number
15:34 <BabyBug> kk
15:35 <smoothice> ct|kyle: ping
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15:56 <smoothice> .si -v ~Night Walker's Central~Fortress~
15:56 <tronner> smoothice: ~Night Walker\'s Central~Fortress~ ( running 0.3_alpha_z1354 unix dedicated, url: Nightwalkers.info, Description: “The new fortress server from ~NW with ladle settings and armathentication!“, Players (1/16): +|SmOoThice~NW
16:00 <smoothice> .later tell the Fortress AI used to def itself but now doesn't at all... lol
16:00 <tronner> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
16:01 <smoothice> .later tell z-man the Fortress AI used to def itself but now doesn't at all... lol
16:01 <tronner> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
16:01 <smoothice> .si -v ~Night Walker's Central~Fortress~
16:01 <tronner> smoothice: ~Night Walker\'s Central~Fortress~ ( running 0.3_alpha_z1354 unix dedicated, url: Nightwalkers.info, Description: “The new fortress server from ~NW with ladle settings and armathentication!“, Players (0/16):
16:21 <Concord> guru3 I know what that 't' was
16:21 <guru3> ?
16:23 <Concord> for some reason the "back to top" image didn't load
16:23 <Concord> and that was the first letter of "top" the replacement text
16:24 -!- cpayan [n=cpayan@adsl-065-012-248-221.sip.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #armagetron
16:24 <guru3> funky
16:24  * guru3 is working on lackarma2 some more
16:26 <Concord> cpayan, guru3: opinions on the input boxes for the dark version?
16:26 <Concord> like the post box
16:26 <cpayan> what about them. Background colors and whatnot, you mean?
16:28 <Concord> yeah
16:28 <guru3> the search box
16:28 <guru3> looks a bit fugly
16:29 <guru3> the post box looks fine
16:30 <cpayan> They should probably look as much the same as possible, any input boxes.
16:30 <cpayan> I haven't seen them, though
16:30 <Concord> so no dark background?
16:30 <guru3> i think a tint is fine
16:30 <guru3> http://guru3.net/temp/oops.png
16:33 <BabyBug> epsy, Did you figure out how to get the log using bzrlib by any chance?
16:34 <BabyBug> There's like nothing to tell you how to use bzrlib.log >.<
16:34 <BabyBug> And there's no other function to use to get znr
16:34 <cpayan> i'm a little confused, you're working on phpbb3 now, then, right? How simple/hard was it to install, I'll probably make an installation on my machine.
16:34 <cpayan> ah i guess it doesn't matter
16:35 <cpayan> I'll be installing it anyway
16:35 <Concord> what system are you on? I used MAMP with my mac, it was a piece of cake
16:36 <cpayan> Input fields should be a bit darker than the background, and have a border around them. They're different from the boxes for posts in that without the border, it's harder to tell that it's somewhere to write. Also, all the input fields should be the same color, to define them as input fields.
16:37 <cpayan> I'm going to go ahead and start installing phpbb3. Concord i've setup my laptop as a LAMP server, so I'm not exactly expecting any problems :)
16:37 -!- HyperDrive [n=chatzill@5ac2536e.bb.sky.com] has joined #armagetron
16:37 <HyperDrive> hello again
16:37 <Concord> ;)
16:37 <BabyBug> Hello
16:38 <Concord> phpbb3 itself is really easy I found
16:38 <smoothice> Anyone know if it is possible to make sp_map_file?
16:39 <eddiefantastic> sp_map_file?
16:39 <smoothice> yeah
16:39 <eddiefantastic> single_player...
16:39 <HyperDrive> single player map file
16:39 <smoothice> yeah
16:39 <HyperDrive> should be the same as usual no ?
16:39 <eddiefantastic> you can change the arena size, but not map iirc
16:40 <smoothice> I'm asking if I could code an sp_map_file :D
16:40 <smoothice> Fortress for SP and Square for multiple players
16:40 <HyperDrive> expert assistance required XD
16:40 <smoothice>  lol
16:42 <HyperDrive> lol im still banned from irc://moznet/chatzilla , what a bunch of jerks
16:42 <Vanhayes> cant you put the team setting and whatnot in the map itself?
16:44 <BabyBug> smoothice, tron/zone/zFortress.cpp line 479 if you want to see some defending :)
16:44 <BabyBug> (fortress ai)
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16:46 <HyperDrive> can this http://rafb.net/paste/ thing have some protection, its full of viagra spam XD
16:47 <PinkTomato> HyperDrive: Did you get a fix?
16:47 <HyperDrive> what was i fixing again ?
16:47 <HyperDrive> the graphics ?
16:48 <epsy> BabyBug, idk, sorry
16:48 <PinkTomato> HyperDrive: yes ^^
16:48 <HyperDrive> sorry I have a short attention span :p
16:48 <epsy> bbl
16:48 -!- emphasis [n=rolf@188-133-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
16:48 <BabyBug> okies
16:48 -!- epsy [n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy] has quit ["Ragequit."]
16:48 <HyperDrive> i donloaded some drivers from the sis site but I havent tried them yet
16:48 <BabyBug> temporary ugly hack it is then :D
16:48 <HyperDrive> downloaded*
16:49 <HyperDrive> pink did you se my silly rimwall hack that boosts the fps a little ?
16:50 <HyperDrive> is here if you want to take a look http://rafb.net/p/1FP8n718.html
16:51 <HyperDrive> its hard to play without rim walls but it might be a good feature for some crazy servers if you change the tsettingitem to an nsettingitem :D
16:53 <HyperDrive> i'll probably try those new drivers tomorow and let you all know how it goes
16:53 <HyperDrive> i gtg now and do some work lol cu
16:53 <PinkTomato> OK then :)
16:53 <PinkTomato> see you
16:53 <HyperDrive> cu
16:53 <guru3> the » in the train of breadcrumbs
16:53 <guru3> i can't figure out where phpbb3 stores that ><
16:54 <HyperDrive> your looking for what guru3 ?
16:55 <Concord> its um
16:55 <Concord> at least I put it
16:55 <guru3> chevron
16:55 <Concord> index-body.html
16:55 <guru3> i want to change the naglinks
16:55 <guru3> navlinks even
16:55 <HyperDrive> cant you grep the files for it ?
16:55 <guru3> i can
16:55 <guru3> and i'm not finding it
16:55 <guru3> hence the confusion
16:55 <HyperDrive> ah
16:55 <HyperDrive> lol
16:55 <Concord> index_body.html "<ul class="linklist">
16:55 <Concord> <p><a href="{U_INDEX}" accesskey="h">{L_INDEX}</a> <!-- BEGIN navlinks --> <strong>&#8249;</strong> <a href="{navlinks.U_VIEW_FORUM}">{navlinks.FORUM_NAME}</a><!-- END navlinks --></p></ul>"
16:56 <HyperDrive> theres the bastard :P
16:56 <guru3> aahhh it was hidden in there
16:56 <HyperDrive> i was just going to say "whats the code for it"
16:57 <HyperDrive> my work here is done XD
16:57 <HyperDrive> cu all, good luck with what ever you are working on
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17:02 <Vanhayes> .weather e5n 5c5
17:02 <tronner> Vanhayes: The current temperature in Hampton High School, Hampton, New Brunswick is -1.6°C (1:02 PM ADT on March 20, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 255%. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.51 in 1033.1 hPa (Falling).
17:03 <Vanhayes> yay, this one is metric
17:03 -!- nsh22 [n=neal@unaffiliated/nsh22] has joined #armagetron
17:03 <nsh22> lunch break :P
17:04 <nsh22> smoothice: hows the rewrite goin?
17:04 <Vanhayes> nsh22, are you at work right now?
17:04 <nsh22> no, im at home doing homework
17:05 <Vanhayes> oh, homework, fun
17:05 <PinkTomato> .weather Brighton, UK
17:05 <tronner> PinkTomato: The current temperature in Preston Park, Brighton, United Kingdom is 10.4°C (4:05 PM GMT on March 20, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.43 in 1030.4 hPa (Rising).
17:05 <PinkTomato> feels warmer
17:05 <Vanhayes> msut be march break there now eh?
17:05 <nsh22> i have about 15 chapters of frankenstein due on monday
17:05 <nsh22> wiuth questions
17:05 <PinkTomato> not yet
17:05 <nsh22> it is for me
17:05 <nsh22> .weather innisfil
17:05 <tronner> nsh22: The current temperature in Innisfil, Innisfil, Ontario is -1.0°C (12:05 PM EDT on March 20, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: -16.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.47 in 1031.7 hPa (Steady).
17:06 <Vanhayes> ya its alot warmer than -1.6 here
17:06 <Vanhayes> tronner got it wrong
17:06 <nsh22> a cold front came through yesterday :(
17:07 <Vanhayes> hmm guess it is colder than that according to thermometer
17:07 <Vanhayes> looks really nice out anyways
17:18 <smoothice> nsh22: haven't even started lol
17:18 <smoothice> nsh22:gotta go have breakfast I'm starving
17:18 <PinkTomato> It feels warmer than 10 Celcius her
17:18 <PinkTomato> .weather Oxford, UK
17:18 <tronner> PinkTomato: The current temperature in Oxford, United Kingdom is 15.4°C (4:14 PM GMT on March 20, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1017.5 hPa (Falling).
17:18 <smoothice> .g 10 centigrade in fahrenheit
17:18 <tronner> smoothice: Fahrenheit and Celsius (Centigrade) Scales — Infoplease.com: <http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0001731.html>; Fahrenheit Centigrade Scale: <http://www.dia.org/education/Egypt-teachers/mathsci/wilson/scale.htm>; WikiAnswers - What is 10 degrees Centigrade in Fahrenheit: <http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_10_degrees_Centigrade_in_Fahrenheit>
17:19 <PinkTomato> .g 10 C in F
17:19 <tronner> PinkTomato: Fahrenheit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit>; BBC Weather | London: <http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/8>; BBC Weather | Newcastle upon Tyne: <http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/10>
17:19 <smoothice> .g 10 C in F
17:19 <tronner> smoothice: Fahrenheit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit>; BBC Weather | London: <http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/8>; BBC Weather | Newcastle upon Tyne: <http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/10>
17:19 <smoothice> ...
17:19 <PinkTomato> #g 10 C in F
17:19 <smoothice> I don't know what temp 10 C is
17:19 <smoothice> armabot is gone
17:19 <PinkTomato> :'(
17:19 <smoothice> 10 degrees Celsius = 50 degrees Fahrenheit
17:19 <smoothice> Oh
17:19 <smoothice> feels warmer than that?
17:19 <PinkTomato> A little
17:19 <smoothice> you can wear shorts in 50
17:19 <PinkTomato> not anymore, lol
17:19 <smoothice> if it isn't windy
17:20 <PinkTomato> It's the coast, always windy :)
17:20 <smoothice> ooo lol
17:20 <smoothice> denver for me...
17:20 <smoothice> meh
17:20 <PinkTomato> well, not to bad today
17:20 <smoothice> oh
17:20 <nsh22> .g calc 10 cinf
17:20 <tronner> nsh22: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
17:20 <nsh22> .g calc 10 c in f
17:20 <smoothice> .g calc c in f
17:20 <tronner> nsh22: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
17:20 <tronner> smoothice: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
17:20 <smoothice> Lol...
17:20 <smoothice> .help g
17:20 <tronner> smoothice: (g <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "google $*".
17:20 <smoothice> ...
17:20 <PinkTomato> haha, I live inland for Uni, the seagulls annoy me
17:20 <smoothice> .google 10 celsius in fahrenheit
17:20 <nsh22> ]g 10 c in f
17:20 <tronner> smoothice: Temperature Conversion from Celsius to Fahrenheit: <http://www.321know.com/mea414x2.htm>; Temperature Conversion from Fahrenheit to Celsius: <http://www.321know.com/mea414x3.htm>; [pbs] Celsius-Fahrenheit conversion: <http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/pbs/2003-January/012460.html>
17:20 <smoothice> ..
17:20 <smoothice> w/e
17:21 <smoothice> bbs
17:21 <nsh22> [ce
17:21 <nsh22> pce
17:21 <smoothice> ]g 10 c in f
17:21 <smoothice> whatever
17:21 <smoothice> bbs
17:21 <nsh22> ljrbots not here either...
17:21 <Vanhayes> @g 10 c in f
17:21 <teabot> Vanhayes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit - Fahrenheit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
17:21 <nsh22> @g calc 10 c in f
17:21 <PinkTomato> #google 10c in f
17:21 <teabot> nsh22: http://calculator-converter.com/converter_c_to_f_celsius_to_fahrenheit_calculator.php - C to F Convert Celsius to Fahrenheit and Fahrenheit to Celsius ...
17:21 <Vanhayes> @google calc 10 c in f
17:21 <teabot> Vanhayes: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
17:21 <Vanhayes> boo
17:22 <nsh22> FAIL BOTS!
17:22 <PinkTomato> .math
17:22 <PinkTomato> @math
17:22 <nsh22> .list
17:22 <Vanhayes> hmm how do I unaway
17:22 <tronner> nsh22: Admin, Alias, Anonymous, AutoMode, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, Ctcp, CyborgName, Dict, ExternalControl, Filter, Format, Freenode, Games, Google, Herald, Insult, Internet, Karma, Lart, Later, Math, Misc, MoobotFactoids, Network, Nickometer, Owner, P4, Pastebin, Plugin, Praise, QGoogle, RSS, Reply, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Status, Stock, String, StringEncode, Supybot, Tail, Time, Todo, (1 more message)
17:22  * Vanhayes forgot
17:22 <nsh22> .more
17:22 <tronner> nsh22: Topic, Unix, User, Utilities, Weather, Web, Webserver, and Yahoo
17:22 <PinkTomato> Vanhayes: Well your talking so I guess your not away
17:22 <Vanhayes> it still shows me as away though
17:23  * PinkTomato didn't know about away in IRC
17:23 <nsh22> lmao
17:23 <nsh22> .ctcp
17:23 <nsh22> .ctcp PinkTomato
17:23 <PinkTomato> oi
17:23 <PinkTomato> Don't CTCP me :P
17:23 <nsh22> :P
17:23 <PinkTomato> I don't know what your doing :)
17:24 <Vanhayes> ha
17:24 <Vanhayes> its /back
17:24 <nsh22> im spying your comp
17:24 <nsh22> :P
17:24 <Vanhayes> he is haxoring you
17:24 <nsh22> lol
17:24 <nsh22> its just finding what your irc client is
17:24 <Vanhayes> shut everything down and pul the plugs
17:25 <nsh22> Vanhayes: shhhh
17:25 <PinkTomato> nsh22:  it's Pidgin
17:25 <nsh22> it said purple irc...
17:25 <Vanhayes> .ctcp
17:25 <PinkTomato> Purple IRC is the engine
17:25 <cpayan> .ctcp
17:25 <Vanhayes> .ctcp PinkTomato
17:25 <cpayan> oh
17:25 <PinkTomato> yr "unaffilated"..
17:25 <nsh22> .ctcp Vanhayes version
17:25 <cpayan> .ctcp cpayan
17:25 <cpayan> err
17:25 <nsh22> .ctcp Vanhayes
17:26 <cpayan> should i be finding anything out?
17:26 <nsh22> boo you too
17:26 <cpayan> .ctcp nsh22
17:26 <PinkTomato> It does nothing
17:26 <cpayan> heh, just for you nsh22 ?
17:26 <nsh22> .ctcp Vanhayes RAWR
17:26 <nsh22> cpayan: huh?
17:26 <PinkTomato>  cpayan /version [name]
17:26 <cpayan> well I'm not getting anything from .ctcp
17:26 <nsh22> ah, the bot is uber lagging
17:27 <nsh22> oh yeah
17:27 <cpayan> ruh roh
17:27 <PinkTomato> oh btw, I can see when you do that
17:27 <nsh22> thx Vanhayes
17:27 <cpayan> yea?
17:27 <PinkTomato> it's rather silly and annyoying :P
17:27 <nsh22> its slash... and PinkTomato , we know
17:27 <Vanhayes> you are supposed to use /ctcp
17:27 <PinkTomato> boo to you too
17:27 <cpayan> xchat on windows :)
17:27 <Vanhayes> * Received a CTCP VERSION from nsh22
17:27 <Vanhayes> * Received a CTCP VERSION from cpayan
17:27 <Vanhayes> x chat 2
17:27 <nsh22> i know
17:27 <PinkTomato> Vanhayes: /version works though...
17:28 <smoothice> back!
17:28 <smoothice> hello world!
17:28 <nsh22> cpayan: is running ubuntu with xchat
17:28 <cpayan> :)
17:28 <smoothice> .ctcp smoothice
17:28 <smoothice> .ctcp smoothice
17:28 <Vanhayes> use /
17:28 <nsh22> smoothice:
17:28 <nsh22> what he said
17:28 <cpayan> xchat on windows is pretty popular, huh
17:28 <nsh22> yeash
17:28 <PinkTomato>  /ctcp fails anyway
17:28 <smoothice> Vanhayes CTCP REPLY VERSION xchat 2.8.6-2 Windows XP [Intel Pentium 4/2.79GHz]
17:28 <Vanhayes> its the best free one ive found
17:28 <PinkTomato> does not work
17:28 <smoothice> I use Colloquy
17:29 <smoothice> .g Colloquy
17:29 <tronner> smoothice: Colloquy: IRC, SILC & ICB Client: <http://colloquy.info/>; Colloquy: Downloads: <http://colloquy.info/downloads.html>; Loyalty Marketing, Reward Programs and Customer Loyalty: COLLOQUY: <http://www.colloquy.com/>
17:29 <Vanhayes> not alot of choice for windows
17:29 <PinkTomato> anyways
17:29 <PinkTomato> to be gone I am.
17:29 <smoothice> http://colloquy.info/
17:29 <PinkTomato> byebye
17:29 <smoothice> to be gone PinkTomato goes
17:29 <smoothice> lol
17:29 <nsh22> bb
17:29 <smoothice> so nsh22
17:29 <smoothice> wassup dogg?
17:29 <smoothice> LO!L
17:29 <nsh22> oui?
17:29 -!- PinkTomato [n=sam@5aca0671.bb.sky.com] has quit ["Leaving."]
17:29 <nsh22> never again
17:29 <smoothice> lo
17:29 <smoothice> lol
17:29 <smoothice> you're like
17:29 <smoothice> JUst... don't do that
17:29 <smoothice> lol
17:30 <cpayan> any of you use Wordpress, btw?
17:30 <smoothice> yes
17:30 <Concord> ya
17:30 <Vanhayes> hmm isnt that what playfortress is?
17:30 <Vanhayes> @g playfortress
17:30 <teabot> Vanhayes: http://playfortress.wordpress.com/ - Play Fortress
17:30 <cpayan> Is there anything you guys would think would make theme development easier?
17:31 <smoothice> no
17:31 <nsh22> -smoothice- bartol.freenode.net <YOU SUCK LOL!>
17:31 <cpayan> heh
17:31 <nsh22> FAIL!
17:31 <cpayan> really, nothing.
17:31 <smoothice> Flex's One Man Team of Extraordinary Capabilities "I'm getting fed up with this orgasm!" (Flex)
17:31 <smoothice> wow
17:31 <nsh22> lmao
17:31 <Vanhayes> ?
17:31 <smoothice> Team List
17:31 <smoothice> Please post your team name and the players who will play for your team below. If you're confused on how to do so, look at the examples below. You may also wish to create a wiki page for your team. The teams will be randomly selected for slot #s on the Saturday before the Ladle.
17:31 <smoothice> Flex's One Man Team of Extraordinary Capabilities "I'm getting fed up with this orgasm!" (Flex)
17:32 <smoothice> SURRENDER!
17:32 <nsh22> smoothice: where you find that>?
17:32 <smoothice> Vanhayes: PUT YOUr HANDS UP!
17:33 <Vanhayes> never!
17:33  * Vanhayes makes a run for it
17:33 <smoothice> @lmgtfy nsh22 Ladle Challenge Board wiki armagetronad
17:33 <nsh22> fail
17:33 <smoothice> ...
17:33 <smoothice> .g Ladle Challenge Board wiki armagetronad
17:33 <tronner> smoothice: Ladle/Challenge Board - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Ladle/Challenge_Board>; Ladle/Challenge Board/16 - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Ladle/Challenge_Board/16>; Armagetron Forums :: View topic - Old challenge boards: <http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=203092>
17:33 <nsh22> @gtfy smoothice how to use lmgtfy
17:33 <teabot> smoothice: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=how%20to%20use%20lmgtfy
17:33 <smoothice> ...
17:33 <smoothice> screw
17:33 <nsh22> :P
17:33 <smoothice> nsh22: #armagetron-0.3-sty
17:34 <smoothice> nsh22: ownded
17:34 <nsh22> ... how did i know that was coming...
17:34 <smoothice> No idea
17:34 <smoothice> :P
17:34 <Vanhayes> bbl
17:34 <smoothice> ok Vanhayes
17:34 -!- Vanhayes [n=Ping@CPE0013f7c4ff79-CM0013f7c4ff75.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit ["Leaving"]
17:36 <smoothice> .kick nsh22
17:36 <smoothice> screw
17:36 <Concord> #ls ct_emmy
17:37 <ivantis2> #ls ARMABOT IS GONE!
17:37 <smoothice> yeah concord
17:37 <smoothice> gosh
17:37 <smoothice> you know what
17:37 <smoothice> I have an idea
17:37 <ivantis2> i need to write a bot that whenever someone starts a line with #, it says to them "... she's gone. :("
17:40 <nsh22> .ls armabot
17:40 <nsh22> @ls armabot
17:40 <tronner> nsh22: timed out
17:40 <teabot> nsh22: timed out
17:40 <nsh22> FAIL!
17:40 <nsh22> @seen ljrbot
17:40 -!- armabot [n=supybot@97-118-163-230.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #armagetron
17:41 <nsh22> #ls armabot
17:41 <armabot> nsh22: Error: "ls" is not a valid command.
17:41 <nsh22> ivantis2: i that ur bot?
17:41 <smoothice> .help si
17:41 <tronner> smoothice: (si <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "reply [sc [fetch [concat [urlquote $*]]]]".
17:41 <smoothice> holy frick
17:41 <nsh22> #si
17:41 <armabot> nsh22: Error: "si" is not a valid command.
17:42 <smoothice> .help ls
17:42 <tronner> smoothice: (ls <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "lastseen $*".
17:42 <smoothice> .help lastseen
17:42 <tronner> smoothice: (lastseen <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/lastseen.php?player=@1+@2+@3+@4+@5+@6+@7+@8+@9".
17:42 <ivantis2> ...thats not her
17:42 <nsh22> i noticed...
17:42 <ivantis2> obviously
17:42 <smoothice> .alias add ls fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/lastseen.php?player=@1+@2+@3+@4+@5+@6+@7+@8+@9
17:42 <nsh22> wrtlprnft: when will armabot be back (for real)?
17:42 <smoothice> #alias add ls fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/lastseen.php?player=@1+@2+@3+@4+@5+@6+@7+@8+@9
17:42 <armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
17:42 <smoothice> #ls neal~nw
17:42 <armabot> smoothice: Error: This command is disabled (supybot.plugins.Web.fetch.maximum is set to 0).
17:42 <ivantis2> because her dns is always the same as wrtlprnfts
17:42 <smoothice> ...
17:43 <nsh22> .ls smoothice
17:43 <tronner> nsh22: +|SmOoThice~NW has last been seen on  ~Night Walker's Central~Fortress~ 25 minutes ago.
17:43 <ivantis2> cablesurf.de
17:43 <smoothice> #help config
17:43 <armabot> smoothice: (config <name> [<value>]) -- If <value> is given, sets the value of <name> to <value>. Otherwise, returns the current value of <name>. You may omit the leading "supybot." in the name if you so choose.
17:43 <nsh22> .seen smoothice
17:43 <tronner> nsh22: smoothice was last seen in #armagetron 5 seconds ago: <smoothice> #help config
17:43 <nsh22> :P
17:43 <smoothice> #config supybot.plugins.Web.fetch.maximum 100
17:43 <armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
17:43 <nsh22> .seen armabot
17:43 <tronner> nsh22: armabot was last seen in #armagetron 0 seconds ago: <armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
17:43 <smoothice> #ls neal~nw
17:43 <armabot> smoothice: Neal~NW has last been seen on  ~Night Walker's Central~Fortress~ 2 hours 13 minutes ago.
17:43 <nsh22> :P
17:44 <smoothice> #ignore BabyBug
17:44 <armabot> smoothice: Error: "ignore" is not a valid command.
17:44 <smoothice> #version
17:44 <armabot> smoothice: The current (running) version of this Supybot is 0.83.3.  The newest version available online is 0.83.3.
17:44 <smoothice> #help ignore
17:44 <armabot> smoothice: Error: There is no command "ignore".
17:44 <smoothice> #list
17:44 <armabot> smoothice: Admin, Alias, Anonymous, Channel, Config, Format, Games, Internet, Math, Misc, News, Owner, RSS, Seen, String, Time, Topic, User, and Web
17:44 <smoothice> #list Admin
17:44 <armabot> smoothice: capability add, capability remove, channels, ignore add, ignore list, ignore remove, join, nick, and part
17:44 <smoothice> #ignore add BabyBug
17:44 <armabot> smoothice: Error: The command "ignore add" is available in the Admin and Channel plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "ignore add".
17:44 <BabyBug> Do you really have to spam the channel with it?
17:45 <smoothice> #channel ignore BabyBug
17:45 <armabot> smoothice: Error: 'supybot.ignore' is not a valid configuration variable.
17:45 <smoothice> #Admin Ignore BabyBug
17:45 <armabot> smoothice: Error: The "Admin" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "Ignore" in it.  Try "list Admin" to see the commands in the "Admin" plugin.
17:45 <smoothice> oh who gives a crap
17:45 <smoothice> #quit
17:45 -!- armabot [n=supybot@97-118-163-230.hlrn.qwest.net] has quit [Client Quit]
17:46 -!- Vanhayes [n=Ping@CPE0013f7c4ff79-CM0013f7c4ff75.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #armagetron
17:46 <smoothice> .say hi
17:46 <cpayan> i hate when everyone just leaves the Mud Puddle
17:47 <smoothice> those servers are yours?
17:47 <cpayan> no
17:47 <Vanhayes> >si
17:47 <Vanhayes> .si
17:47 <tronner> Vanhayes: There doesn\'t seem to be a server matching “(urlquote” at the moment, sorry.
17:47 <nsh22> i find it funny when like 3-5 ppl leave at once
17:47 <cpayan> but i play there quite a bit, like just now. and out of nowhere everyone just leaves.
17:47 <Vanhayes> @si
17:47 <cpayan> yea, 3 people
17:47 <teabot> Vanhayes: Usage: #serverdetails [-v] {name}
17:47 <cpayan> i was just sitting there with 7 points and no one to play
17:47 <nsh22> lol
17:49 <Vanhayes> this pc doesnt like arma very much, the wireless makes everyone go straight then it returns to normal and I died from hitting rim wall
17:49 <smoothice> fail
17:49 <smoothice> PC?
17:49 <smoothice> does that mean Windows?
17:49 <smoothice> FAIL!
17:49 <cpayan> so smoothice what I was thinking about was making a didactic kind of theme framework that would go out with Wordpress, so that people could base their themes off it.
17:49  * Vanhayes might get a brand new computer soon
17:50 <Vanhayes> or a new car
17:50 <nsh22> computer...
17:50 <smoothice> cpayan: sounds cool
17:50 <nsh22> is it going to be worth a car?
17:50 <Vanhayes> though in the last year ive gone thru 2 cars so i might try my luck with computer
17:50 <nsh22> lmao, how?
17:50 <ivantis2> i want to get a new computer soon
17:51 <ivantis2> i'm saving up
17:51 <smoothice> I often LMAO at NEAL who like to PLAY with my MIND
17:51 <smoothice> LMAO NEAL PLAY MIND
17:51 <nsh22> ???
17:51 <Vanhayes> my $6000 2002 cavalier crashed into a 97 civic
17:51 <nsh22> sux
17:51 <Vanhayes> lets just say i thought the light was yellow
17:51 <ivantis2> it drove itself into a civic?
17:51 <Vanhayes> I thought wrong
17:51 <nsh22> lmao...
17:51 <cpayan> I was wondering if you could think of anything that should be included. Right now what I'm thinking is that it (obviously) includes all the basic php files of the template hierarchy, and uses as much of the Theme API as possible. Widget ready areas, and all would be there, of course, and not make it fixed width, as well as having as few graphics as possible.
17:52 <smoothice> hgmmm
17:52 <cpayan> i suppose this is ptobably the wrong place, but hey, they're talking about Civics
17:52 <ivantis2> making a wordpress theme?
17:52 <Vanhayes> then my $600 97 taurus crapped out one too many times for me to keep it, let alone drive 6000 KM in it
17:52 <smoothice> KM?
17:52 <Vanhayes> kilometres
17:53 <nsh22> Vanhayes: ive done that (not the crash though). i went into an intersection when it wa green and went from gereen to yellow then red before i turned :P
17:53 <Vanhayes> what everyone but the americans use to judge distances
17:53 <nsh22> lol
17:53 <nsh22> thats cuz americans fail at meausreing
17:53 <smoothice> @g one kilometer in miles
17:53 <ivantis2> cpayan, you are making a wordpress theme? for what?
17:53 <Vanhayes> well I just got back from a huge road trip into the states and barely had any sleep, then worked 10 hours so I was pretty much a zombie
17:53 <ivantis2> .calc 1 KM in MI
17:54 <tronner> ivantis2: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
17:54 <nsh22> smoothice:  1 mile = 2.44 km i think
17:54 <cpayan> Theme Framework was on the ideas page for Wordpress re gsoc
17:54 <nsh22> but dont quote me on it
17:54 <nsh22> any1 here have op?
17:54 <Vanhayes> @calc 1 KM in M
17:54 <teabot> Vanhayes: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
17:54 <nsh22> BabyBug: can you invite ljrbot to come in here?
17:54 <ivantis2> miles is mi
17:54 <Vanhayes> you bots are inferior to armabot
17:55 <ivantis2> BabyBug doesnt have op
17:55 <smoothice> luke-jr: get ljrbot in here punk
17:55 <smoothice> luke-jr: LOL!
17:55 <smoothice> yo Vanhayes doog
17:55 <Vanhayes> @last from armabot
17:55 <teabot> Vanhayes: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; --nolimit (1 more message)
17:55 <Vanhayes> yo
17:56 <Vanhayes> @last --from armabot
17:56 <teabot> Vanhayes: [09:45:16] <armabot> smoothice: Error: The "Admin" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "Ignore" in it.  Try "list Admin" to see the commands in the "Admin" plugin.
17:56 <smoothice> LOL
17:56 <smoothice> @last --from luke-jr
17:56 <Vanhayes> @seen armabot
17:56 <Vanhayes> @ping
17:56 <teabot> pong
17:56 <smoothice> .dns CPE0013f7c4ff79-CM0013f7c4ff75.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com
17:56 <tronner> smoothice:
17:57 <Vanhayes> .seen armabot
17:57 <tronner> Vanhayes: armabot was last seen in #armagetron 11 minutes and 53 seconds ago: <armabot> smoothice: Error: The "Admin" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "Ignore" in it.  Try "list Admin" to see the commands in the "Admin" plugin.
17:57 <smoothice> .ping
17:57 <tronner> pong
17:57 <Vanhayes> ?
17:57 <Vanhayes> 11 minutes ago?
17:57 <smoothice> @ping
17:57 <smoothice> .ping
17:57 <tronner> pong
17:57 <smoothice> @pin
17:57 <smoothice> @Ping
17:57 -!- L [n=x-javach@dhcp-077-251-115-079.chello.nl] has joined #armagetron
17:57 <smoothice> @PING?
17:57 <smoothice> @DO you IGNORE ME?
17:57 <smoothice> @ping?
17:58 <Vanhayes> that makes no sense how was armabot here 11 minutes ago?
17:58 <Vanhayes> @ping
17:58 <teabot> pong
17:58 <Vanhayes> ha
17:58 <smoothice> @Pinf
17:58 <smoothice> @Ping
17:58 <nsh22> Vanhayes: it wasnt actually her, some copy
17:58 <smoothice> @ping
17:58 <smoothice> her?
17:58 <smoothice> Wtf?
17:58 <nsh22> armabot is a se
17:58 <nsh22> she*
17:58 <smoothice> you must be too
17:58 <smoothice> knew it
17:58 <nsh22> ???
17:58 <Vanhayes> armabot is the sexiest bot
17:58 <nsh22> its her makers words so
17:59 <smoothice> *facepalm*
17:59 <smoothice> .
17:59 <smoothice> ....
17:59 <smoothice> -.-
17:59 <smoothice> tronner is the awesomest bot ever
17:59 <smoothice> beats armabot any day
17:59 <Vanhayes> .list google
17:59 <tronner> Vanhayes: cache, calc, fight, google, lucky, phonebook, and translate
17:59 <ivantis2> now we are talking about bots that way?
17:59 <nsh22> no, its the sorriest boit ever cuz it has ops in youtr gay channel
17:59 <smoothice> .calc 1 c in f
17:59 <tronner> smoothice: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
17:59 <ivantis2> first it was OSes
17:59 <Vanhayes> .google fight smoothice nsh22
17:59 -!- P4 [n=P4@unaffiliated/p4] has quit [Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)]
17:59 <tronner> Vanhayes: smoothice: 8190, nsh22: 63
17:59 <smoothice> owned?
17:59 <nsh22> ???
18:00 <ivantis2> "Vista doesn't have the kind of boobs that KDE has." --Lucifer
18:00 <Vanhayes> smaller is better, more unique
18:00 <Vanhayes> .google fight Vanhayes nsh22
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18:00 <smoothice> ivantis2: LOL
18:00 <tronner> Vanhayes: Vanhayes: 239, nsh22: 63
18:00 <nsh22> .help google gight
18:00 <Vanhayes> hmm, most of those are probably me
18:00 <smoothice> hey folks
18:00 <smoothice> everyone
18:00 <smoothice> listen
18:00 <Vanhayes> no
18:00 <smoothice> Listening?
18:00 <Vanhayes> never
18:00 <smoothice> get this
18:00 <smoothice> you all SUCK!
18:00 <smoothice> LOL!!!!!!
18:01  * Vanhayes wasnt listening
18:01 <smoothice> did someone say something?
18:01 <Vanhayes> .google fight armagetron gltron
18:01 <smoothice> nsh22: ?
18:01 <tronner> Vanhayes: armagetron: 16800, gltron: 4020
18:01 <Vanhayes> oh ya
18:01 <smoothice> .google fight iPod Zune
18:01 <tronner> smoothice: iPod: 40300000, Zune: 2000000
18:01 <Vanhayes> saw that one
18:01 <smoothice> .google fight Apple Microsoft
18:01 <tronner> smoothice: Microsoft: 88500000, Apple: 63500000
18:01 <smoothice> .google fight KDE GNOME
18:01 <tronner> smoothice: GNOME: 4160000, KDE: 1120000
18:01 <ivantis2> .google fight ivantis smoothice
18:01 <Vanhayes> .google fight Canada USA
18:01 <tronner> ivantis2: smoothice: 8190, ivantis: 2180
18:01 <smoothice> .google fight Poop Shit
18:01 <tronner> Vanhayes: USA: 144000000, Canada: 113000000
18:01 <tronner> smoothice: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
18:01 <ivantis2> what?
18:01 <smoothice> LOLL!!!!!
18:02 <smoothice> .google fight Poop Shit
18:02 <tronner> smoothice: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
18:02 <smoothice> fail
18:02 <Vanhayes> .google fight up down
18:02 <tronner> Vanhayes: up: 2950000000, down: 169000000
18:02 <ivantis2> .google fight ivantis armabot
18:02 <tronner> ivantis2: ivantis: 2180, armabot: 34
18:02 <smoothice> .google McCain Obama
18:02 <Vanhayes> .google armabot
18:02 <ivantis2> ownd
18:02 <tronner> smoothice: Obama vs. McCain: <http://obama-mccain.info/>; RealClearPolitics - Election 2008 - General Election: McCain vs. Obama: <http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html>; McCain and Obama - New York Times: <http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/08/opinion/08brooks.html>
18:02 <tronner> Vanhayes: Blogger: User Profile: Armabot: <http://www.blogger.com/profile/06881926230634763075>; "Transformer" arma-bot éxitos piso de exhibición: <http://www.chipdouro.com/es/uncategorized/transformer-gun-bot-hits-showroom-floor.html/>; Engadget: <http://www.engadget.com/profile/1219835/>
18:02 <smoothice> lol!
18:02 <ivantis2> .google fight mccain obama
18:02 <tronner> ivantis2: obama: 51200000, mccain: 10700000
18:02 <ivantis2> ownd
18:03 <smoothice> y'all got owned
18:03 <Vanhayes> .google fight "stephen Harper" "Barrack Obama"
18:03 <tronner> Vanhayes: stephen Harper: 2920000, Barrack Obama: 225000
18:03 <Vanhayes> oh ya
18:03 <smoothice> .google fight "Innisfil" "Chicago"
18:03 <tronner> smoothice: Chicago: 45000000, Innisfil: 246000
18:03 <smoothice> owned
18:04 <smoothice> .weather innisfil
18:04 <tronner> smoothice: The current temperature in Innisfil, Innisfil, Ontario is 0.1°C (1:04 PM EDT on March 20, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 31%. Dew Point: -15.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.47 in 1031.7 hPa (Falling).
18:04 <Vanhayes> .google fight "saint john" innisfil
18:04 <tronner> Vanhayes: saint john: 23400000, innisfil: 246000
18:04 <Vanhayes> good ol bot spam
18:04 <Vanhayes> .ignore
18:05 <Vanhayes> well done
18:05 <smoothice> hi
18:05 <smoothice> .hi
18:05 <tronner> Hello :) [q]
18:05 <smoothice> hi tronner!
18:05 <Vanhayes> .q
18:05 <smoothice> tronner: hi dude!
18:05 <tronner> Hello dude! :) [q]
18:05 <smoothice> .love
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18:06 <Vanhayes> .quote
18:06 <tronner> Vanhayes: (quote <company symbol>) -- Gets the information about the current price and change from the previous day of a given company (represented by a stock symbol).
18:07 <Vanhayes> er
18:07 <Vanhayes> .quote apple
18:07 <smoothice> .quote AAPL
18:07 <tronner> smoothice: The current price of AAPL is 101.81, as of 12:52pm EST.  A change of +0.19 from the last business day.
18:07 <smoothice> .quote msft
18:07 <tronner> smoothice: The current price of MSFT is 17.352, as of 12:52pm EST.  A change of +0.212 from the last business day.
18:07 <smoothice> fail...
18:07 <smoothice> howthemarketworks.com
18:07 <smoothice> very ful
18:07 <smoothice> fun
18:07 <Vanhayes> .list
18:07 <tronner> Vanhayes: Admin, Alias, Anonymous, AutoMode, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, Ctcp, CyborgName, Dict, ExternalControl, Filter, Format, Freenode, Games, Google, Herald, Insult, Internet, Karma, Lart, Later, Math, Misc, MoobotFactoids, Network, Nickometer, Owner, P4, Pastebin, Plugin, Praise, QGoogle, RSS, Reply, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Status, Stock, String, StringEncode, Supybot, Tail, Time, Todo, (1 more message)
18:07 <smoothice> .help pastebin
18:07 <smoothice> .list Pastebin
18:07 <tronner> smoothice: That plugin exists, but has no commands.  This probably means that it has some configuration variables that can be changed in order to modify its behavior.  Try "config list supybot.plugins.Pastebin" to see what configuration variables it has.
18:08 <Vanhayes> .google fight car computer
18:08 <tronner> Vanhayes: computer: 137000000, car: 118000000
18:08 <smoothice> config list supybot.plugins.Pastebin
18:08 <smoothice> .config list supybot.plugins.Pastebin
18:08 <tronner> smoothice: address, announce, channel, defaultPort, public, and recentPasteCount
18:08 <Vanhayes> hmm
18:08 <smoothice> .google fight "economic crisis" "global warming"
18:08 <tronner> smoothice: economic crisis: 37700000, global warming: 7430000
18:08 <smoothice> ...
18:08 <smoothice> .google fight "Economy" "climate change"
18:08 <tronner> smoothice: Economy: 43400000, climate change: 17600000
18:08 <smoothice> ...
18:09 <Vanhayes> .google fight war depression
18:09 <tronner> Vanhayes: war: 89000000, depression: 14400000
18:09 <smoothice> .google fight Vanhayes smoothice
18:09 <tronner> smoothice: smoothice: 8190, Vanhayes: 239
18:09 <Vanhayes> .google fight "nuclear war" "Conventional war"
18:09 <tronner> Vanhayes: nuclear war: 24000000, Conventional war: 11000000
18:09 <Vanhayes> we are all going to die
18:09 <smoothice> .google fight "World War II" "World War I"
18:09 <tronner> smoothice: World War I: 115000000, World War II: 46600000
18:09 <smoothice> that's interesting
18:09 <smoothice> I would have thought otherwise
18:10 <Vanhayes> same
18:10 -!- L [n=x-javach@dhcp-077-251-115-079.chello.nl] has quit ["webirc@xclan.armagetron.co.uk"]
18:10 <nsh22> BabyBug: kcik please :P
18:10 <smoothice> Nsh22; cannot
18:10 <Vanhayes> .google fight "world war 2" "world war 3"
18:10 <BabyBug> i can't bloody kick without armabot
18:10 <tronner> Vanhayes: world war 3: 127000000, world war 2: 105000000
18:10 <smoothice> babybug had armabot Op
18:10 <smoothice> BabyBug: cause u fail
18:10 <smoothice> tronner: owned
18:10 <tronner> smoothice: I haven't seen anyone matching “řwned@crazy-tronners.com” yet, sorry.
18:10 <BabyBug> smoothice, actually guru3 is the fail
18:10 <nsh22> then get tronner or teabot op
18:11 <BabyBug> nsh22, why do you assume i have authority with things like that?! :P
18:11 <smoothice> BabyBug: #armagetron-0.3-sty
18:11 <nsh22> ... i meant register and get the owner to give you op
18:11 <Vanhayes> i miss armabot
18:11 <nsh22> i do too
18:11 <BabyBug> nsh22, someone still needs to give the bot op.
18:11 <smoothice> nsh22: tronner set a ban on *!*@unaffiliated/nsh22.
18:11 <nsh22> i hate you smooth,and i havent even check the channel
18:12 <smoothice> Lol
18:12 <ivantis2> so does ivantis
18:12 <smoothice> lol
18:12 <nsh22> smoothice: your a prick
18:12 <smoothice> ...
18:12 <smoothice> nsh22: I can leave tron in a flash
18:12 <smoothice> nsh22: I can disappear
18:12 <nsh22> YAY!
18:12 <BabyBug> Then do it
18:12 <smoothice> nsh22: all comm with me could be shut off
18:13 <ivantis2> you know how much i would hate that?
18:13 <smoothice> None
18:13 <ivantis2> i hate losing someone
18:13 <nsh22> smoothice: i like you as a fiend on tron, but...
18:13 -!- joda_bot [n=anonymou@dslb-084-061-072-003.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #armagetron
18:13 <nsh22> friend*
18:13 <epsy> zzz
18:13 <smoothice> nsh22: ...
18:13 <ivantis2> heh, fiend
18:13 <nsh22> FIEND!
18:13 <smoothice> nsh22: tronner removed the ban on *!*@unaffiliated/nsh22
18:13 <nsh22> cokeaddict
18:14 <nsh22> smoothice: idc, im not going back, your channel can die
18:14 <nsh22> :P
18:14 <epsy> /mode +b *!*@unaffialated/*
18:14 <epsy> oops
18:14 <epsy> lol
18:14 <smoothice> why would I do that
18:14 -!- wireddd [n=wired@unaffiliated/wireddd] has quit [Success]
18:14 <epsy> /mode +b *!*@unaffiliated/*
18:14 <ivantis2> im getting so much work right now, writing stuff isnt even fun now
18:14 <smoothice> nsh22: aww w/e I'm leaving
18:14 -!- smoothice [n=smoothic@unaffiliated/smoothice] has quit ["void smoothice::leave();"]
18:15 <nsh22> ivantis2: ill say it a gain, who cares
18:15 <ivantis2> me
18:15 <ivantis2> me
18:15 <ivantis2> ?
18:15 <nsh22> your a singular being in a community that acts like a whole, gtfo now or die
18:15 <ivantis2>  
18:15 <ivantis2> wtf does shift+return do in xchat aqua
18:15 <nsh22> :P
18:15 <epsy> you're *
18:15 <ivantis2> oh makes it multiple lines
18:16 <nsh22> epsy: ...........................
18:16 <epsy> otherwise I support you
18:16 <nsh22> :P
18:17 <nsh22> ivantis2: you're a singular being in a community that acts like a whole, gtfo now or die
18:17 <nsh22> epsy: better?
18:17 <epsy> better
18:17 <cpayan> lol
18:17 <nsh22> yay
18:17 <ivantis2> ]
18:18 <ivantis2> [
18:18 <ivantis2> \
18:18 <ivantis2> '
18:18 <ivantis2> ;
18:18 <ivantis2> ?
18:18 <epsy> oh there's a fort game going on
18:18 <nsh22> @tea
18:18 <teabot> nsh22: Fortress Café: Players (7/32): michala loves ?, mud, Nikk¦A¦, O--->, Slëëpÿ, Win32, WithGlasses
18:18 <cpayan> there's a true grammar nazi, ideologically and grammatically
18:18 <ivantis2> @toast
18:18 <nsh22> and thereas a true idiot ^^
18:18 <nsh22> cpayan: not you...
18:18 <ivantis2> and theres a true genius <--
18:18 <cpayan> @butter
18:19 <ivantis2> @jam
18:19 <cpayan> @eggs
18:19 <nsh22> ivantis2: i was pointing at you dolt
18:19 <nsh22> @spam
18:19 <cpayan> ew
18:19 <cpayan> @bacon
18:19 <nsh22> as in YOUR SPAMMING THE CAHNNEL
18:19 <cpayan> you're
18:19 <epsy> you're
18:19 <ivantis2> did you know that hawaii is the state that consumes the most spam in the us?
18:19 <nsh22> ...
18:19 <Vanhayes> why do you know that?
18:19 <nsh22> as in YOU'RE SPAMMING THE CHANNEL
18:20 <ivantis2> i guess because there arent like, cows, living there
18:20 <nsh22> cuz hes a dolt
18:20 <cpayan> i'm not surprised, that stuff would have no problem with the voyage, which would be important a while ago
18:20 <ivantis2> its an important fact!
18:20 <ivantis2> it was on a history test once
18:20 <cpayan> also, didn't it start as military food?
18:20 <ivantis2> a few weeks ago
18:20 <nsh22> @google is ivantis2 a dolt
18:20 <teabot> nsh22: no results for: is ivantis2 a dolt
18:20 <cpayan> ouch
18:20 <nsh22> @8ball is ivantis2 a dolt
18:20 <teabot> nsh22: It is so.
18:20 <nsh22> HA
18:20 <cpayan> hah
18:21 <ivantis2> he left off not
18:21 <cpayan> you turn from algorithms to mysticism
18:21 <ivantis2> It is not so.
18:21 <cpayan> @8ball
18:21 <nsh22> HA
18:21 <teabot> cpayan: It is possible.
18:21 <nsh22> HA
18:21 <nsh22> @8ball is ivantis2 a dolt
18:21 <teabot> nsh22: One would be wise to think so.
18:21 <nsh22> @8ball is ivantis2 a dolt
18:21 <teabot> nsh22: The outlook is good.
18:21 <nsh22> @8ball is ivantis2 a dolt
18:21 <teabot> nsh22: Naturally.
18:21 <nsh22> @8ball is ivantis2 a dolt
18:21 <teabot> nsh22: The answer is certainly yes.
18:21 <cpayan> teabot just said nohting is possible
18:21 <nsh22> @8ball is ivantis2 a dolt
18:22 <teabot> nsh22: Obviously.
18:22 <cpayan> are they all positives...
18:22 <nsh22>  :P
18:22  * cpayan sigh
18:22 <nsh22> cpayan: SHHUUSH
18:22 <ivantis2> .8ball is nsh22 a moron?
18:22 <nsh22> @8ball is ivantis2 not a dolt
18:22 <teabot> nsh22: In your dreams.
18:22 <nsh22> :P
18:22 <cpayan> @8ball nsh22 is dumb as all get-out
18:22 <teabot> cpayan: No chance.
18:22 <cpayan> HAH!
18:22 <ivantis2> why do you have to be registered?
18:22 <nsh22> @8ball is ivantis2 not a dolt
18:22 <teabot> nsh22: I doubt it very much.
18:22 <nsh22> :P
18:23 <ivantis2> @8ball does nsh22 need to stfu?
18:23 <cpayan> @8ball say something positive
18:23 <teabot> cpayan: NO!
18:23 <nsh22> ivantis2: i think your ignored by teabot
18:23 <ivantis2> epsy, make it stop ignoring me :(
18:23 <epsy> you're
18:23 <nsh22> ffs epsy
18:23 <epsy> ffs nsh22
18:23 <epsy> it's basic grammar
18:23 <nsh22> YOU'R
18:23 <nsh22> YOU'Re*
18:24 <cpayan> sursly, just get it right, nsh22
18:24 <cpayan> They don't even mean the same thing.
18:24 <nsh22> YOU'RE a fail
18:24  * cpayan clap clap clap
18:24 <ivantis2> you're a moron
18:24 <nsh22> better?
18:24 <epsy> you're misusing a possessive for a pronoumn and a verb
18:24 <cpayan> i mean, fail doesn't belong there, but colloquially, it works
18:25 <nsh22> epsy: i know what i do wrong, but seriously...
18:25 <epsy> you don't seem to
18:26 <nsh22> im too lazy to add the e at the end, its aaaallll the way over there <=====
18:26 <cpayan> how big is your keyboard
18:26 <cpayan> ?
18:26 <nsh22> <=========================================================================This Big ===========================================================================================>
18:26 <ivantis2> look
18:26 <ivantis2> http://www.elance.com/php/search/main/eolsearch.php?matchType=profile#matchKeywords=%22Perl%22
18:27 <cpayan> @8ball is nsh22's keyboard that big?
18:27 <teabot> cpayan: The outlook is hazy, please ask again later.
18:27 <ivantis2> im on the first page of professionals in a search for Perl
18:27 <cpayan> @8ball is nsh22's keyboard that big?
18:27 <teabot> cpayan: Maybe...
18:27 <cpayan> ...
18:27 <cpayan> nice ivantis2
18:27 <nsh22> ivantis2: NOONE BUT YOU CARES!
18:27 <cpayan> @8ball is nsh22's keyboard that big?
18:27 <teabot> cpayan: The outlook is hazy, please ask again later.
18:27 <cpayan> ...
18:27 <nsh22> @8ball is my keyboard that big?
18:27 <teabot> nsh22: It is possible.
18:27  * cpayan throws a keyboard at teabot 
18:27 <nsh22> @8ball is my keyboard that big?
18:27 <teabot> nsh22: One would be wise to think so.
18:28 <nsh22> @8ball is my keyboard that big?
18:28 <teabot> nsh22: Yes!
18:28 <nsh22> :P
18:28 <cpayan> .....
18:28 -!- arrow [n=euclid@adsl-dyn40.78-99-184.t-com.sk] has joined #armagetron
18:28 <ivantis2> i've already made $137 on that website
18:28 <cpayan> I hate you sometime
18:28 <cpayan> elance? I need to start using it.
18:28 <cpayan> What kind of jobs do you pick up, anyway?
18:28 -!- Lackadaisical [n=lckdscl@ip202-29-210-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #armagetron
18:28 <ivantis2> my first job was making a wordpress plugin
18:29 <ivantis2> then that same client wanted me to do some other stuff
18:29 <ivantis2> i'm supposed to be working right now
18:29 <cpayan> o.O
18:29 <cpayan> @8ball is ivantis2 working?
18:29 <teabot> cpayan: What are you asking me for?
18:30 <ivantis2> but elance kind of stinks. they take a percent of your pay, and then charge you for a "premium" profile
18:30 <cpayan> sigh
18:30 <cpayan> that's pretty lame
18:30 <ivantis2> its like $10 a month
18:30 <cpayan> why am i getting attitude from the 8ball bot
18:30 <ivantis2> but i make enough to cover it
18:30 <cpayan> and what do you get from a "premium" profile?
18:30 <cpayan> $120 a year is pretty steep imho
18:31 <ivantis2> every time you bid on a job, it takes an amount of 'connects'. with the free profile,you get 3 connects/month
18:31 <ivantis2> with premium, you get 20/month
18:31 <ivantis2> and you get more keywords for your profile, some other stuff
18:31 <ivantis2> i have been a member since november
18:32 <cpayan> ah interesting. How are the clients that come to the site? Reasonable people, for the most part?
18:32 <ivantis2> but i just recently got my first job
18:32 <ivantis2> yeah, reasonable
18:32 <ivantis2> but a potential client yesterday asked me to do an impossible task
18:32 <ivantis2> and then got pissed with me because i couldnt do it
18:32 <nsh22> nothings impossib;e
18:33 <cpayan> yea, what did they ask?
18:33 <ivantis2> they gave me the root password to some servers, and just said "log in"
18:33 <ivantis2> no cpanel username
18:33 <ivantis2> they gave me the IPs, but SSH and FTP dont work with root anyway
18:33 <nsh22> ivantis2: maybe login name is "root"
18:34 <cpayan> or admin
18:34 <ivantis2> no it wasnt, i tried a bunch of stuff
18:34 <cpayan> anyway, how is that a task at all?
18:34 <ivantis2> they wanted me to get them a file off one of the servers
18:34 <cpayan> they just asked you to log in because... they forgot their username?
18:34 <ivantis2> then they said "if you knew linux well, you shouldve been able to log in"
18:35 <ivantis2> orly? you didnt fucking give me a username, just the root password
18:35 <cpayan> Sounds shady, anyway
18:35 <BabyBug> ivantis2, if they give you the root password, the username is root
18:36 <ivantis2> BabyBug, do i look stupid?
18:36 <epsy> LOL
18:36 <BabyBug> ivantis2, yes?
18:36 <cpayan> @8ball does ivantis2 look stupid
18:36 <teabot> cpayan: Unlikely.
18:36 <nsh22> ivantis2: VERY
18:36 <cpayan> i dunno, man
18:36 <ivantis2> root doesnt work directly because its considered unsafe to send root passwords over the internet
18:36 <ivantis2> but they didnt give me a regular user
18:36 <nsh22> did you TRY root?
18:37 <ivantis2> yes
18:37 <nsh22> ok then
18:37 <ivantis2> multiple times, on all 3 servers
18:37 <epsy> @quote add <BabyBug>: ivantis2, if they give you the root password, the username is root
18:37 <teabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.  Quote #10 added.
18:37 <nsh22> did you ask them for a usernamer?
18:37 <cpayan> lol
18:38  * cpayan obviously is the only one that's been paying attention to the conversation
18:38 <ivantis2> yeah, and then they said that i was unexperienced in linux because i couldnt use root directly
18:38 <BabyBug> epsy, you have to point out to obvious with people like ivantis2
18:38 <BabyBug> ivantis2, how about you PM me the IP and the password they give you? :)
18:38 <Vanhayes> @quote get 1
18:38 <teabot> Vanhayes: Quote #1: "<epsy> i dont have enough cocks yet" (added by xfroggy at 03:43 PM, August 17, 2008)
18:38 <Vanhayes> ...
18:38 <cpayan> :)
18:38 <ivantis2> BabyBug, i'll say it right here, i dont care
18:38 <Vanhayes> tell me that was taken out of context please
18:39 <BabyBug> ivantis2, fine do that :P
18:39 <cpayan> Vanhayes, he doesn't have enough to answer that, yet
18:39 <ivantis2>
18:39 <ivantis2>
18:39 <nsh22> @quote get 2
18:39 <teabot> nsh22: Quote #2: "<xfroggy> customer support is retared" (added by epsy at 07:51 AM, August 18, 2008)
18:39 <ivantis2>
18:39 <nsh22> @quote get 3
18:39 <teabot> nsh22: Quote #3: "<Lucifer> I've always wondered if someone went psycho and kicked everybody from the channel, how long would it take for the channel to repopulate?" (added by epsy at 10:56 AM, August 19, 2008)
18:39 <ivantis2> root password is MULTAmick999
18:40 <nsh22> @quote get 4
18:40 <teabot> nsh22: Quote #4: "<wireddd> assembly is a high level language as well" (added by epsy at 04:34 PM, August 25, 2008)
18:40 <nsh22> @quote get 5
18:40 <teabot> nsh22: Quote #5: "< epsy> what should i give sister for unzipping? xDDDDD" (added by xfroggy at 01:23 PM, August 26, 2008)
18:40 <nsh22> epsy: wtf?
18:40 <ivantis2> BabyBug, get all that?
18:40 <nsh22> @quote get 6
18:40 <teabot> nsh22: Quote #6: "<xfroggy> my impression of france: a lot of punks jumping on the roofs of funny little police cars and screaming random french words at everyone" (added by epsy at 06:05 AM, August 28, 2008)
18:40 <nsh22> @quote get 7
18:40 <teabot> nsh22: Quote #7: "<@hoax> man french chicks are hot <@hoax> how gay" (added by epsy at 09:19 AM, September 09, 2008)
18:41 <nsh22> @quote get 8
18:41 <teabot> nsh22: Quote #8: "<ivantis> okay, from now forth i wont bring any annoying bots of mine here" (added by epsy at 10:16 AM, October 18, 2008)
18:41 <nsh22> @quote get 9
18:41 <teabot> nsh22: Quote #9: "<Lucifer> we all live in the other submarine, the other submarine, the other submarine" (added by epsy at 01:53 PM, October 27, 2008)
18:41 <cpayan> "from now forth" ?
18:41 <epsy> from now on
18:41 <ivantis2> ivantis is a noob
18:41 <nsh22> he tried to use old english but failed
18:41 <cpayan> odd way to say it
18:42 <nsh22> HOMEWORK!
18:42 <nsh22> ....
18:42 <epsy> I think there's still one of his bots in #freenode
18:42 <nsh22> fucking frankenstein
18:42 <epsy> anyone cares to make it talk?
18:42 <ivantis2> ivantis3? yeah he has permission to be there
18:42 <BabyBug> what's its trigger?
18:43 <epsy> just use ivantis3:
18:43 <epsy> lol
18:44 <BabyBug> it's not even a supybot
18:44 <epsy> it used to be
18:44 <BabyBug> wont reply for a ctcp version
18:44 <epsy> maybe it's a bot that's crashing
18:44 <BabyBug> Unless ivantis made it ignore me
18:45 <cpayan> la di da
18:45 <nsh22> cpayan: lol
18:45 <ivantis2> ...
18:45 <ivantis2> supybots dont do ctcps
18:45 <ivantis2> noob
18:46 <ivantis2> and it is a supybot
18:46 -!- ljrbot [n=supybot-@2002:46bb:1a76:0:2b0:d0ff:fe49:6b31] has joined #Armagetron
18:46 <ivantis2> dont be dumb
18:46 <ljrbot> New news from armagetronadbzr: [themes] r10 beginning of dark version (Concord)... || [themes] r9 colors heading in the right directions... || [themes] beginning of dark version || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1101 Checking whether var directory exists before attempting to r... || [themes] r8 fixed most of checklist || [themes] r7 moved to proper directory... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r902 Store iterated game object in tJUST_CONT
18:46 <Vanhayes> tronner-tronner- VERSION Supybot 0.83.3
18:46 <ivantis2> ]ping
18:46 <nsh22> YAY!\
18:46 <nsh22> we have agood bot!
18:46 <Vanhayes> ]echo pong
18:46 <epsy> lol
18:46 <ljrbot> pong
18:46 <luke-jr> ivantis2: retard
18:46 <nsh22> luke-jr: am i still ignored?
18:47 <ivantis2> luke-jr, come on, make it unignore me
18:47 <Vanhayes> ]echo I dont like ivantis2
18:47 <ljrbot> I dont like ivantis2
18:47 <luke-jr> ]admin ignore remove nsh22
18:47 <ljrbot> luke-jr: Error: nsh22!n=neal@unaffiliated/nsh22 wasn't in the ignores database.
18:47 <nsh22> hmmm...
18:47 <Vanhayes> ]echo .ping
18:47 <ljrbot> .ping
18:47 <ivantis2> almost, but is ivantis2
18:48 <nsh22> luke-jr: isnt hat only for the bot?
18:48 <epsy> ivantis2, logging #freenode freely?
18:48 <ivantis2> epsy, i got permission
18:48 <ivantis2> and it isnt public
18:49 <ivantis2> maybe i shjould get out of bed now
18:49 <luke-jr> nsh22: duh?
18:49 <ivantis2> its almost 13:00 here
18:49 <nsh22> luke-jr: nvm :P
18:49 <BabyBug> ivantis2, what's ivantis3's trigger? :P
18:49 <Vanhayes> ew, you are still in bed at 1 o clock?
18:49 <nsh22> luke-jr: can you add e to th eyandere developers team?
18:49 <ivantis2> BabyBug, it doesnt have one
18:49 <BabyBug> ...
18:50 <ivantis2> so? i like "sleeping" in
18:50 <nsh22> BabyBug: try ivantis3: ping
18:50 <Vanhayes> 11 is sleeping in 1 is afternoon
18:50 <ivantis2> well, im getting up
18:50 -!- ivantis2 [n=ivantis@] has quit ["Leaving"]
18:50 <epsy> victory
18:51 <nsh22> ]q
18:51 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: "q" is not a valid command.
18:51 <nsh22> ]quote get 1
18:51 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: There is no Quote with id #1 in my database for #armagetron.
18:51 <epsy> @q
18:51 <epsy> @alias add q quote random #arma.xclan
18:51 <teabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
18:51 <epsy> @q
18:51 <teabot> epsy: Quote #1: "<epsy> i dont have enough cocks yet" (added by xfroggy at 03:43 PM, August 17, 2008)
18:51 <nsh22> @q add
18:51 <teabot> nsh22: Quote #1: "<epsy> i dont have enough cocks yet" (added by xfroggy at 03:43 PM, August 17, 2008)
18:51 <epsy> it had nice factoids :(
18:52 <nsh22> @q help add
18:52 <teabot> nsh22: Quote #10: "<BabyBug>: ivantis2, if they give you the root password, the username is root" (added by epsy at 10:37 AM, March 20, 2009)
18:52 <epsy> @g BabyBug
18:52 <nsh22> @q help
18:52 <teabot> epsy: http://www.cricketmag.com/ProductDetail.asp?pid=10 - Babybug Magazine: The Award-Winning Magazine for infants and ...
18:52 <teabot> nsh22: Quote #4: "<wireddd> assembly is a high level language as well" (added by epsy at 04:34 PM, August 25, 2008)
18:52 <nsh22> @help quote
18:52 <teabot> nsh22: Error: There is no command "quote".
18:52 <ct|kyle> .google calc 10C in F
18:52 <tronner> ct|kyle: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
18:52 <nsh22> @help quote add
18:52 <teabot> nsh22: (quote add [<channel>] <text>) -- Adds <text> to the quote database for <channel>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
18:52 <ct|kyle> #ping
18:52 <nsh22> @quote add * ivantis2 has quit ("Leaving")
18:52 <nsh22>   <epsy> victory
18:52 <teabot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.  Quote #11 added.
18:53 <nsh22> @q 11
18:53 <teabot> nsh22: Quote #8: "<ivantis> okay, from now forth i wont bring any annoying bots of mine here" (added by epsy at 10:16 AM, October 18, 2008)
18:53 <nsh22> @q get 11
18:53 <teabot> nsh22: Quote #5: "< epsy> what should i give sister for unzipping? xDDDDD" (added by xfroggy at 01:23 PM, August 26, 2008)
18:53 <Vanhayes> ct|kyle, no armabot for #
18:53 <epsy> fail
18:53 <nsh22> @quote get 11
18:53 <teabot> nsh22: Quote #11: "* ivantis2 has quit ("Leaving")" (added by neal at 10:52 AM, March 20, 2009)
18:53 <nsh22> ...
18:53 <nsh22> @quote edit 11
18:53 <nsh22> @quote edit 11 * ivantis2 has quit ("Leaving")
18:53 <nsh22>  -epsy- victory
18:53 <Vanhayes> .quote help
18:54 <Vanhayes> .list quoote
18:54 <Vanhayes> .list quote
18:54 <nsh22> @quote remove 11
18:54 <teabot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
18:54  * teabot opens a text editor for nsh22
18:54 <nsh22> ?
18:54 <nsh22> @quote add * ivantis2 has quit  <epsy> victory
18:54 <teabot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.  Quote #12 added.
18:55 <nsh22> @quote get 12
18:55 <teabot> nsh22: Quote #12: "* ivantis2 has quit <epsy> victory" (added by neal at 10:54 AM, March 20, 2009)
18:55 <Vanhayes> .]q
18:55 <Vanhayes> ]q
18:55 <ljrbot> Vanhayes: Error: "q" is not a valid command.
18:55 <nsh22> kk im out
18:56 -!- nsh22 [n=neal@unaffiliated/nsh22] has left #armagetron ["shift-esc"]
18:56 <Vanhayes> .stats
18:56 <Vanhayes> .last --with stats --nolimit
18:56 <tronner> Vanhayes: [18:56:10] <Vanhayes> .stats, [14:23:28] <nsh22> a fullyty automatic would take the stats from the server..., and [13:44:58] <teabot> epsy: cache, calc, fight, lucky, meta, phonebook, spell, and stats
18:56 <epsy> Vanhayes, @
18:56 <Vanhayes> @stats
18:56 <teabot> Vanhayes: I have 10 registered users with 12 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 1 admin.
18:56 <Vanhayes> @ircstats
18:57 <epsy> @apropos stats
18:57 <teabot> epsy: Google stats, Quote stats, and User stats
18:57 <Vanhayes> @user stats
18:57 <teabot> Vanhayes: I have 10 registered users with 12 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 1 admin.
18:57 <Vanhayes> @google stats
18:57 <teabot> Vanhayes: This google module has made 0 searches total; 0 in the past 24 hours.  Google has spent 0.00 seconds searching for me.
18:57 <epsy> :o)
18:57 <Vanhayes> @google Vanhayes
18:57 <teabot> Vanhayes: http://www.facebook.com/people/Van-Hayes/523448291 - Van Hayes | Facebook
18:57 <Vanhayes> huh?
18:58 <epsy> lol!
18:58 <Vanhayes> ahaha not me i swear
18:58 <epsy> LOL
18:59 <BabyBug> Vanhayes, prove it! pics!
18:59 <Vanhayes> ok you caught me, I am actually an old man in a tub
18:59 <epsy> you first
18:59 <epsy> damn firefox/flash combo
18:59 <BabyBug> minors in the channel epsy :P
19:00 <epsy> firefox-bin: aucun processus tué
19:00 <epsy> DIE
19:00 <epsy> Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart your system.
19:00 <epsy> blablabla
19:00 <Vanhayes> who is a minor?
19:00 <epsy> BabyBug, who here said nude pics?
19:00 <BabyBug> epsy, that's all i have
19:01 <epsy> pervert
19:01 <Vanhayes> kinky
19:01 <joda_bot> heh, a server at university was hacked since 01.01.2009 ... :-|, now alot of people have to change their passwords
19:01 <BabyBug> that doesn't make me a eprv
19:01 <cpayan> Vanhayes, that's definitely you
19:01 <epsy> sure it does
19:01 <BabyBug> how does it?
19:02 <Vanhayes> lies
19:02 <Vanhayes> i dont have face book
19:02 <epsy> 1/ normal people don't make pictures of themselves nude
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19:02 <BabyBug> epsy, define "normal"
19:02 <epsy> not pervert
19:02 <Vanhayes> i make picture of certain parts nude
19:02 <epsy> OMG UR HANDZ R NUDE
19:02 <BabyBug> You're very closed off the outside world if you think "normal" people don't take nudey pics :P
19:03 <epsy> ah yeah, cause you make them outside also
19:03 <MrBougo> lol
19:04 <Vanhayes> btw if there is any pictures of people with the name van hayes, they arent me, that isnt my real name
19:04 <MrBougo> id say "normal" is linked to "average"
19:04 <MrBougo> "normal" would mean rather perv
19:04 <Vanhayes> anyways i dont think there are any minors here
19:04 <BabyBug> Vanhayes, of course there is..
19:04 <Vanhayes> who?
19:05 <BabyBug> epsy for one :P
19:05 <Vanhayes> well minor depends on where you live too
19:05 <MrBougo> hahaha Vanhayes you are winner
19:05 <Vanhayes> ?
19:05 <MrBougo> now to me you're "van hayes"
19:05 <Vanhayes> i swear that picture is not me
19:05 <MrBougo> I know
19:06 <MrBougo> but I swear I can't detach it from you, now
19:06 <Vanhayes> damnit, why did it have to be a fat redneck in a tub
19:06 <epsy> hahahaha
19:06 <MrBougo> hahaha
19:07 <Vanhayes> hmm seems there are a few van hayes
19:07 <Vanhayes> #google Van hayes
19:07 -!- arrow [n=euclid@adsl-dyn40.78-99-184.t-com.sk] has quit ["Leaving."]
19:07 <Vanhayes> @google Van hayes
19:07 <teabot> Vanhayes: http://www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/A28U7ITCYH2S0M - Amazon.com: Profile for K. Van D. Hayes
19:07 <Vanhayes> @google Vanhayes
19:07 <teabot> Vanhayes: http://www.facebook.com/people/Van-Hayes/523448291 - Van Hayes | Facebook
19:07 <MrBougo> lol
19:08 <MrBougo> K. Van D. Hayes reads interesting stuff
19:08 <MrBougo> Philosophical and Theoretical Perspectives for Advanced Nursing Practice (Jones and Bartlett Series in Nursing)
19:08 <Vanhayes> lets say thats me
19:09 <MrBougo> ok
19:09 <Vanhayes> so no more redneck in tub image
19:09 <MrBougo> lets link that amazon guy to that facebook guy
19:09 <MrBougo> they're the same maybe
19:09 <BabyBug> hey wait, van hayes is a real name?
19:10 <Vanhayes> i guess
19:10 <Vanhayes> probably short for Devan hayes
19:10 <Vanhayes> http://www.facebook.com/srch.php?nm=Van+Hayes&sid=d955897a816b487bd6ff4ca854477697
19:10 <Vanhayes> lots of em
19:12 <Vanhayes> @google BabyBug
19:12 <MrBougo> ok Vanhayes
19:12 <teabot> Vanhayes: http://www.cricketmag.com/ProductDetail.asp?pid=10 - Babybug Magazine: The Award-Winning Magazine for infants and ...
19:12 <MrBougo> you're that one then http://www.facebook.com/people/Van-Hayes/674840763
19:12 <Vanhayes> :/
19:12 <MrBougo> :p
19:12 <MrBougo> you choose
19:12 <Vanhayes> need a change of name
19:13 <epsy> BabyBug is making rock soup
19:13 <epsy> http://twitter.com/babybug
19:14 <MrBougo> epsy, you have Thursday off! bitch'n
19:14 <MrBougo> http://twitter.com/epsy
19:15 <epsy> someone has it already? :-(
19:15 <MrBougo> :p
19:15 <epsy> plus there's a capital at Epsy
19:15 <epsy> so it just can't be me
19:15 <MrBougo> I know :p
19:15 <epsy> it's probably the epsy from quakenet
19:16 <MrBougo> thats you, dummy
19:16 <epsy> the other one
19:16 <Vanhayes> http://twitter.com/vhayes lets say this is me
19:16 <MrBougo> lol
19:16 <epsy> o_O
19:17 <Vanhayes> is that the default pic for twitter?
19:18 <MrBougo> ive seen it before
19:18 <Vanhayes> #google vanhayes
19:18 <Vanhayes> .google vanhayes
19:18 <tronner> Vanhayes: Van Hayes | Facebook: <http://www.facebook.com/people/Van-Hayes/523448291>; Reggie Van Hayes - Charlotte, NC | Facebook: <http://www.facebook.com/people/Reggie-Van-Hayes/541643700>; Van Hayes: ZoomInfo Business People Information: <http://www.zoominfo.com/people/Hayes_Van_357739001.aspx>
19:19 <Vanhayes> that last one is me, i started a company in 1926
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19:20 <epsy> hi L
19:20 <Vanhayes> .google "vanhayes"
19:20 <L> guess who
19:20 <tronner> Vanhayes: Van Hayes | Facebook: <http://www.facebook.com/people/Van-Hayes/523448291>; Reggie Van Hayes - Charlotte, NC | Facebook: <http://www.facebook.com/people/Reggie-Van-Hayes/541643700>; Van Hayes: ZoomInfo Business People Information: <http://www.zoominfo.com/people/Hayes_Van_357739001.aspx>
19:20 <epsy> hoaxi?
19:20 <Vanhayes> bah
19:20 <L> ..no
19:20 <epsy> mm :(
19:22 <Vanhayes> guessing game isnt fun
19:22 <epsy> lizmatic?
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19:22 <epsy> freako?
19:24 <L> liiiz
19:26 <Vanhayes> the big L
19:26 <L> big O_O
19:26 <BabyBug> she's fat!
19:27 <Vanhayes> sorry, the Capital L
19:27 <Vanhayes> Uppercase if you will
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19:35 <Guest79146> wat
19:35 -!- Guest79146 is now known as Lizmatic
19:38 <smoothice> frick life guys
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19:43 <ct|kyle> smoothice: Pong
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20:25 <smoothice> oi z-man
20:25 <z-man> stalker!
20:25 <smoothice> ?
20:26 <smoothice> z-man: says who :P
20:27 <smoothice> z-man: does armagetron run on x86_64?
20:27 <z-man> I whoudln't know why not.
20:32 <smoothice> Zurd: before I rebuild my vps
20:32 <smoothice> zurd: check NW Fortress {Smart AI} In server list
20:32 <Zurd> want me to go there?
20:32 <smoothice> yes
20:33 <smoothice> try it out before I rebuild my VPS and take 5 more hours to put it all back together
20:33 <Zurd> HI HO SILVER AWAY!!!!!!!!!
20:34 <smoothice> z-man: Debian or Ubuntu....I cannot decide
20:34 <epsy> neither :P
20:34 <z-man> Doesn't matter. is Debian 5.0 an option?
20:34 <Zurd> i hear ubuntu is the better of the two
20:34 <smoothice> Yes
20:34 <smoothice> Debian 5.0 of Ubuntu 8.10 (x86_64)
20:34 <smoothice> or *
20:34 <epsy> debian 5.0 was released already?
20:34 <Zurd> WTF, the ai just captured my zone.......
20:35 <z-man> Yep, a few weeks ago.
20:35 <epsy> oh mah gahd
20:35 <smoothice> ?
20:36 <epsy> that's got to be impossible, they beat us
20:36 <z-man> smoothice: my vps is running on deb 5.0 now. At home, I use Ubuntu on the desktops and gentoo on the servers.
20:36 <smoothice> z-man: Which do you prefer? Debian or Gentoo?
20:36 <z-man> I see no significant difference between ubuntu and debian.
20:36 <z-man> Gentoo disqualifies itself for serious servers for breaking too often on normal updates.
20:37 <smoothice> ooo lol
20:37 <smoothice> well
20:37 <epsy> smoothice, arch is fine, but beware a little
20:37 <smoothice> 8.10 is older than 5.0
20:37 <smoothice> epsy: ?
20:37 <epsy> the distro I currently use
20:38 <epsy> unless you don't have that choice
20:38 <z-man> Ubuntu has the advantage that you can have two large updates per year, Debian updates are more sporadic.
20:38 <smoothice> next Ubuntu update is April 23rd 2009
20:39 <smoothice> projected
20:39 <z-man> For a server, most things distinguishing distributions don't matter much.
20:39 <smoothice> alright
20:39 <smoothice> I think I'll go with Deb 5
20:39 <smoothice> to be "Just Like You
20:39 <smoothice> LOL!
20:39 <z-man> :/
20:39 <epsy> main concern with debian is that you often lack packages
20:40 <epsy> same goes for ubuntu I guess
20:40 <z-man> Yeah. debian 5 doesn't have libprotobuf, for example.
20:40 <z-man> Hmm, Ubuntu universe is quite complete.
20:40 <epsy> does someone know about a pacakge version comparator?
20:41 <smoothice> hmm
20:41 <z-man> The number of things I had to install from source here is really minimal.
20:41 <smoothice> I compiled protobuf from source
20:41 <smoothice> for Ubuntu
20:41 <smoothice> I didn’t know it came as a package
20:41 <smoothice> lol
20:41 <epsy> like "distro xx has this package as version 1.2.3 and distro yy has this package as version 1.2.4"
20:41 <z-man> Only on 8.10, of course.
20:41 <epsy> that would be nead
20:41 <epsy> neat
20:42 <z-man> It would be, indeed.
20:42 <smoothice> ok
20:42 <smoothice> I did 5.0
20:42 <smoothice> just had to make the decision lol
20:43 <epsy> mmh, that's throwing ideas to me
20:43 <smoothice> ?
20:45 <BabyBug> \o
20:45 <Zurd> smoothice: love the smart AI
20:46 <epsy> is sound messed up for anyone else on this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1DwJaN8Ekg&fmt=18
20:47 <BabyBug> tis fine here epsy
20:47 <epsy> it is synced?
20:47 <smoothice> Zurd: that's gone now since I rebuilt lol
20:48 <epsy> sound is faster than image
20:48 <epsy> that's really annoying when he turns view
20:48 <BabyBug> epsy, not here it's not.
20:48 <epsy> and hell, cypher does that a lot
20:50 <Zurd> :o i hope you gave warning to they 8 ppl in DF
20:50 <smoothice> Zurd: nah
20:50 <smoothice> Zurd: LOL!
20:51 <Zurd> >.>
20:51 <smoothice> Zurd: I did it like 20 minutes ago
20:51 <epsy> BabyBug, are you 400% sure? :<
20:51 <Zurd> ohh
20:51 <BabyBug> epsy, 400% sure
20:52 <epsy> strange
20:52 <smoothice> Aptitude or apt-get?
20:52 <BabyBug> apt-get
20:52 <BabyBug> 8-)
20:52 <smoothice> epsy: ?
20:52 <nniveus> yay no more debian/ubuntu talk ;)
20:52 <smoothice> ?
20:52 <epsy> smoothice, what now? >.>
20:52 <nniveus> hellooooooooooo
20:52  * BabyBug cuddles nniveus 
20:53 <BabyBug> <3333333333
20:53 <smoothice> ...
20:53 <nniveus> :)
20:53 <smoothice> dammit
20:53 <smoothice> APT-GET OR APTITUDE?
20:53 <smoothice> I don't know which one
20:53 <nniveus> someone said apt get
20:53 <epsy> pacman! :D
20:53 <nniveus> lol?
20:53 <epsy> pff, cypher's missing all his rails
20:55 <nniveus> just checked out vid
20:55 <epsy> is sound and image synced for you or not?
20:56 <nniveus> ya
20:56 <nniveus> i see no problem with it :/
20:56 <BabyBug> oh great, first smoothice doesn't trust my answers. And then epsy doesn't trust my answers
20:56 <nniveus> btw is that how you spend your time now, instead of tron? :P never see you on the grid now
20:56 <BabyBug> well i'll just go then!!
20:56 <smoothice> k good
20:56 <nniveus> pf stay >:(
20:56 <epsy> I don't get why I gt weird sound then
20:57 <epsy> & babybug u stay :D
20:57 <nniveus> might want to try other vids
20:57 <BabyBug> pssht
20:57 <epsy> I did
20:57 <ivantis2> mooooo!
20:57 <epsy> wateri14's are the only UI get that on
20:57 <nniveus> then i don't know what your problem is D:
20:57 <epsy> s/UI/I/
20:57 <BabyBug> omg...someone in n9 for the first time in like forever
20:58 <nniveus> old player?
20:58 <Zurd> your getting a new vps smoothice?
20:58 <ivantis2> .sd Nexus
20:58 <tronner> ivantis2: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!)0xffff88: 0xffff88Players (1/16): C$ JsHaLz
20:58 <ivantis2> zomg
20:58 <nniveus> lawl
20:58 <smoothice> Zurd: rebuild = reinstall new OS
20:58 <Zurd> ah
20:58 <smoothice> Zurd: instantly
20:58 <smoothice> nniveus, Zurd: Running DEBIAN 5.0
20:58 <smoothice> lol
20:58 <ivantis2> smoothice, who are you again?
20:58 <smoothice> a person
20:58 <smoothice> you?
20:59 <smoothice> oh
20:59 <smoothice> wait
20:59 <smoothice> you?
20:59 <ivantis2> your nick is not a memorable one
20:59 <Zurd> smoothice how long till your server are back up and running?
20:59 <smoothice> no idea
20:59 <smoothice> lol
20:59 <smoothice> meg
20:59 <smoothice> meh
20:59 <smoothice> ~3 hours
20:59 <Zurd> lol k
20:59 <smoothice> I can put up a temp DF if needed
20:59 <smoothice> but
20:59 <smoothice> part of me doesn't care
21:00 <Zurd> i have the temp up
21:00 <Zurd> no worries
21:00 <nniveus> babybug's at n9?
21:00 <BabyBug> not anymore
21:00 <BabyBug> they left
21:00 <nniveus> ;_;
21:00 <ivantis2> yay spongebob is on
21:00 <ivantis2> i love spongebobs show
21:01 <Zurd> "spongebobs" hes a real person?
21:01 <ivantis2> ;lolololololol
21:01 <ivantis2> no
21:01 <smoothice> yay
21:01 <smoothice> I love spongebob
21:02 <ivantis2> smoothice, what country are you from?
21:02 <smoothice> UK
21:02 <smoothice> why
21:02 <ivantis2> oh right
21:02 <Zurd> smoothice: our forums are down again, and i noticed you havent been on them in a couple days >.<
21:02 <ivantis2> no raeson
21:02 <smoothice> hah
21:02 <smoothice> Zurd: yeah... I went to them yesterday night and they were down then too
21:03 <BabyBug> smoothice, you're in the us... ...
21:03 <Zurd> WTF
21:03 <smoothice> ?
21:03 <smoothice> BabyBug: ?
21:03 <BabyBug> You're in the US..not the UK :|
21:03 <nniveus> get back in n9
21:03 <nniveus> sry back >_>
21:03 <smoothice> BabyBug: proof?
21:03  * nniveus nudges
21:03 <Zurd> babybug: SHHHHHHHHHHHHH
21:03 <BabyBug> smoothice, qwest =)
21:03 <smoothice> is in the Uk
21:03 <smoothice> like I said
21:04 <ivantis2> smoothice, what area of the UK?
21:04 <smoothice> I'm in the UK
21:04 <smoothice> Wales
21:04 <ivantis2> smoothice, what is your zip code?
21:04 <smoothice> there are no zip codes
21:04 <smoothice> there are postal codes
21:04 <ivantis2> i was kidding i believe you
21:04 <smoothice> really?
21:04 <smoothice> lol!
21:04 <epsy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHqdVjJJrv4&feature=channel
21:04 <smoothice> BabyBug: hah
21:05 <epsy> 1:58
21:05 <epsy> failed climb :P
21:05 <ivantis2> heh i once said i was from the australia to some annoying person asking a/s/l
21:05 <BabyBug> lol ivantis2 you're so funny
21:05 <BabyBug> nniveus, you left N9? lol
21:08 <ivantis2> wtf is this? i hvaent gotten a rep;y from this guy in 2 hours
21:09 <smoothice> @seen teabot
21:09 <ivantis2> .seen
21:09 <tronner> ivantis2: (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself.
21:09 <ivantis2> .seen teabot
21:09 <tronner> ivantis2: teabot was last seen in #armagetron 1 hour, 57 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <teabot> Vanhayes: http://www.cricketmag.com/ProductDetail.asp?pid=10 - Babybug Magazine: The Award-Winning Magazine for infants and ...
21:09 <Zurd> .bet 1
21:09 <ivantis2> .seen tronner
21:09 <tronner> ivantis2: I have not seen tronner.
21:09 <Zurd> ]bet 1
21:09 <ljrbot> Zurd: Error: "bet" is not a valid command.
21:09 <ivantis2> llllop;l'
21:11 <nniveus> no you did lol
21:11 <nniveus> to babybug that is
21:12 <BabyBug> you did :'(
21:12 <nniveus> no you ;)
21:12 <nniveus> go back on
21:12 <nniveus> fort's too crowded
21:13 <BabyBug> okies
21:13 <BabyBug> im in
21:17 <nniveus> :)
21:18 <smoothice> .ubuntu
21:18 <tronner> sudo apt-get install build-essential automake subversion libboost-dev libxml2-dev libsdl-image1.2-dev libsdl-mixer1.2-dev ftgl-dev libglew-dev bison pkg-config
21:18 <smoothice> thanks tronner
21:18 <epsy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWH5hTek4fU&feature=related
21:19 <epsy> LOL
21:20 <smoothice> guys look
21:20 <smoothice> http://geekbazaar.org/2008/05/23/apt-get-install-wife/
21:21 <ivantis2> epsy, i need to try that
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21:22 <BabyBug> E: Methwyd canfod pecyn wife
21:22 <BabyBug> :(
21:23 <Zurd> smoothice: ROFL
21:23 <smoothice> Zurd: I was surfing and found that lol
21:24 <Zurd> thats great lol
21:24 <epsy> BabyBug, /exec -o echo ${LC_ALL}
21:25 <BabyBug> ?
21:25 <epsy> type that
21:25 <BabyBug> I did
21:25 <BabyBug> it did nothing
21:26 <epsy> BabyBug, /exec -o /bin/bash -c 'echo ${LC_ALL}'
21:26 <BabyBug> ${LC_ALL} is empty...
21:26 <epsy> wtf o_o
21:26 <epsy> that's probably some really special welsh thing :P
21:27 <BabyBug> ...
21:27 <BabyBug> what should it output?
21:27 <epsy> well, your LC_ALL
21:27 <BabyBug> you type it!
21:27 <epsy> fr_FR.UTF-8
21:28 <BabyBug> hrmm
21:28 <BabyBug> I could do that by typing...
21:28 <BabyBug> cy_GB.UTF-8
21:28 <BabyBug> that's using $LANG instead of ${LC_ALL}
21:30 <nniveus> gave up on fort too atm ;( lags
21:31 <BabyBug> welsh rox!
21:31 <epsy> you mean jryfu ebk
21:32 <BabyBug> jealous
21:32 <epsy> no you
21:33 <ivantis2> nou
21:33 <epsy> guru3, http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=203384#203384
21:34 <guru3> epsy: gotten
21:34 <BabyBug> someone else really really should be able to edit things
21:34  * epsy edits BabyBug 
21:34 <BabyBug> you don't want to edit me really!
21:35  * epsy opens gvim
21:35  * epsy types :%s/.*//
21:35  * epsy types :wq
21:35 <epsy> BabyBug is now only newlines
21:36 <BabyBug> here is a new line
21:36 <BabyBug> and here's another
21:36 <BabyBug> :)
21:36 <epsy> I hope you're not binary
21:36 <BabyBug> you haven't editted me a bit
21:36 <epsy> can you stop spamming empty lines BabyBug ?
21:37 <BabyBug> spamming "empty" lines on irc is not possible
21:37 <BabyBug> =)
21:37 <epsy>  
21:37 <epsy>  
21:37 <epsy>  
21:37 <epsy>  
21:37 <BabyBug> there's a space...
21:37 <epsy> 
21:37 <epsy> 
21:37 <epsy> 
21:37 <epsy> 
21:37 <epsy> :)
21:37 <BabyBug> there's still a space..
21:38 <epsy> no
21:38 <BabyBug> there is this end
21:38 <epsy> there's what's after the :
21:38 <ivantis2>  
21:38 <epsy> and that's it
21:38 <epsy> ""
21:38 <ivantis2> \
21:38 <epsy> ''
21:38 <epsy> :o
21:39 <BabyBug> weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
21:39  * BabyBug falls in nniveus arms
21:40 <ivantis2> e
21:41  * nniveus thinks about catching ;)
21:41 <BabyBug> ...
21:41 <BabyBug> =(
21:41 <nniveus> alright i'll bbl, out for a movie :P
21:41 <nniveus> laters
21:41 <nniveus> and fine :/
21:41  * nniveus catches =_=;
21:41 <BabyBug> :D
21:41 <nniveus> :)
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21:42  * epsy has no idea what to do with buttons 6 & 7
21:43 <ivantis2> press them
21:43 <epsy> actually they suck
21:43 <epsy> it's tilt mwheel left/right
21:43 <epsy> annoying
21:44 <ivantis2> what are you talking about?
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22:04 <madmax> #sd -v café
22:04 <madmax> oh, heh.
22:04  * BabyBug cuddles madmax 
22:05 <madmax> "<3"
22:06 <ct|kyle> .tea -v
22:06 <tronner> ct|kyle: Fortress Café (:4539) running 0.2.8_alpha20090228 unix dedicated, url: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/, Description: “This is a fortress server. Expect to be kicked if you don\'t know how to play. To learn how to play try http://wiki.armagetronad.net/“, Players (7/32): bloc, CTxGonZaP, Guybrush, MobiusPoint, orly?, Ultra, ~|DS|~ Judders
22:06 <Concord> emmy_arma: have time?
22:06 <madmax> yeah, used query with teabot
22:06 <emmy_arma> Concord yes ;)
22:07 <Concord> oki
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22:21 <cpayan> maybe joda should give up on connecting...
22:22 <ct|kyle> no he just needs to learn ow to read
22:22 <ct|kyle> how*
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22:25 <ct|kyle> joda_bot: have you learned how to read yet?
22:26 <joda_bot> ct|kyle: I guess someone changed my pw :D
22:26 <joda_bot> or I messed up
22:26 <smoothice> Zurd: I just completely re-setup Apache 2.2.9 so I don't know if I'll get to the servers until a bit later
22:26 <joda_bot> ct|kyle: if you're talking about identifying
22:26 <Zurd> no worries
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22:27 <joda_bot> ct|kyle: hehe .... yeah, I had a bug in pidgin
22:27 <smoothice> pidgin?
22:27 <smoothice> Purple IRC libs?
22:27 <joda_bot> www.pidgin.im
22:27 <Zurd> im using pidgen, how do i do irc with it
22:27 <ct|kyle> that remind me I should update my alpah build
22:27 <Zurd> what do i tyoe in?
22:27 <joda_bot> Zurd: ?
22:28 <Zurd> idk what to do to log into irc with pidgen, please enlighten me
22:28 <ct|kyle>  /msg nickServ register
22:28 <ct|kyle> start with that
22:28 <Zurd> i have one
22:28 <epsy> smoothice, don't spam
22:28 <smoothice> epsy, don't spam
22:28 <ct|kyle> then the name and password you set up
22:28 <smoothice> epsy: don't spam with useless spam
22:29 <ct|kyle> pwnt
22:29 <smoothice> ;)
22:31 <joda_bot> Zurd: you have to setup an IRC account for freenode
22:32 <joda_bot> e.g. new account (type IRC, server = irc.freenode.org, nickname = zurd)
22:32 <cpayan> passwd = cpayan
22:33 <joda_bot> cpayan: thx :-P
22:33 <cpayan> hey i'm just helping zurd out
22:33 <cpayan> :)
22:36 <smoothice> Zurd: why didn't you compile the NW servers with armathentication? -.-
22:37 <ct|kyle> we lost Zurd to the pidgin
22:38 <smoothice> lol
22:38 <cpayan> ouch
22:38 <cpayan> he's using mibbit...
22:39 <ct|kyle> trying to use pidgin
22:39 <joda_bot> ct|kyle: install OTR :D
22:39 <ct|kyle> joda_bot: I've got it installed
22:39 <joda_bot> eheh ok test :D
22:40 <Zurd> i did, i just didnt set them up
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22:41 <joda_bot> lol
22:41 <joda_bot> cool
22:43 <joda_bot> I got kicked for OTR authentification
22:43 <joda_bot> (excess flood)
22:44 <joda_bot> oh noes ...
22:44 <joda_bot> bbl have to fix my pidgin config ... all buddies are not grouped anymore :-P
22:44 <ct|kyle> spam^^
22:47 <cpayan> ^^spam
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22:59 <Zurd> smooth why is it that you log off msn :'(
23:02 <smoothice> says you did
23:02 <smoothice> now you're back on
23:03 <smoothice> .:':.ZURD.:':. says: (4:03:44 PM)
23:03 <smoothice> if youre looking for Zurd, its not him. sorry. auto login.
23:03 <smoothice> zurd: WTF
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23:04 <smoothice> Zurd: WTF
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23:08 <Hyp3> hey
23:08 <ct|kyle> oi
23:08 <Hyp3> oi
23:09 <smoothice> Hi Hyp3
23:10 <Hyp3> hey smooth
23:12 <Hyp3> so whats doing
23:12 <smoothice> ?
23:13 <cpayan> That was a good conversation
23:13 <Hyp3> lulz
23:14 <ct|kyle> Hyp3: your mom :P
23:14 <Hyp3> :o
23:14 <Hyp3> ct|kyle, oh no you didnt
23:15 <Hyp3> i will murder you all :o
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23:59 <ivantis2> i thought smoothice was leaving forever?

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