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Log from 2009-03-19:
--- Day changed Thu Mar 19 2009
00:00 <cpayan> probably has quite a bit to do with it
00:00 <Lucifer> my graduating class had a drop out rate of 25%, and I say that there was still a majority of hard working students
00:00 <Lucifer> working hard doesn't require a student to always be working, mind you
00:01 <Lucifer> there's plenty of play time available when the homework is so light and easy to knock out
00:01 <luke-jr> Vanhayes_: just look at all the masses brainwashed into believing the global warming and overpopulation myths
00:01 <Lucifer> er, there's significant science to support both of those
00:01 <Lucifer> calling them myths is more hand-waving
00:01 <Lucifer> also, the reward for working hard isn't always an A
00:01 <Lucifer> it's a non-failing grade :)
00:02 <cpayan> well with that rule in place, i guess yes, there are more "hard workers" than not
00:02 <Vanhayes_> luke-jr, so what kind of education did you get if not school?
00:02 <Lucifer> or it's a standing ovation at the end of the school play
00:02 <Lucifer> or it's a badge for participating and/or winning a debate
00:02 <cpayan> then again, I was considering fucking around within the rules that are set up.
00:02 <Lucifer> Vanhayes_: he didn't get one, can't you tell?
00:03 <Vanhayes_> im think church educated
00:03 <Lucifer> everything I learned, I learned from Heinlein
00:03 <Lucifer> so if I sound like a whack job, now you know why
00:03 <cpayan> heinlein?
00:04 <luke-jr> Vanhayes_: books
00:04 <Lucifer> yeah, Robert A Heinlein
00:04 <Lucifer> science fiction author
00:04 <cpayan> ah
00:04 <Vanhayes_> they use books in high school too you know luke-jr
00:04 <cpayan> hehe
00:04 <Lucifer> Vanhayes_: picture books, these days
00:04 <Vanhayes_> they actually use quite a few
00:04 <luke-jr> Vanhayes_: yeah, but fiction
00:04 <luke-jr> better to use non-fiction books to learn
00:04 <Vanhayes_> such as...?
00:05 <Lucifer> I've long felt that computer games, almost every computer game, has educational value
00:05 <Lucifer> the problem is that playing computer games is viewed as worse than watching tv
00:05 <cpayan> there's no point to this discussion. He thinks I'm brainwashed. I think he's passing off absolutes without any real reasoning. Hey, maybe HE'S been brainwashed to think high school is worthless.
00:05 <Lucifer> and education is thought to require teaching, studying, homework, and shit
00:06 <Lucifer> so when computer games don't directly teach, don't require study or homework to win, they can't be educational
00:06 <Vanhayes_> luke-jr, so the math text books and history books are fiction?
00:06 <luke-jr> Vanhayes_: the history ones most likely are
00:06 <Lucifer> Vanhayes_: all the ones that refer to any pope after a certain year as being the true pope are fiction, obviously
00:06 <Vanhayes_> obviously...
00:06 <Lucifer> luke-jr doesn't believe in peer review, unless it's for a GPL product
00:06 <Lucifer> and history and science aren't GPL products
00:06 <cpayan> heh
00:06 <cpayan> open source history
00:07 <Vanhayes_> my school actually kept god out of the classroom for the most part
00:07 <Lucifer> science and history have always been open source :)
00:07 <Vanhayes_> hard to avoid for alot of wars
00:07 <cpayan> Well, history is written by the winners so it's open source
00:07 <luke-jr> Vanhayes_: exactly the brainwashing
00:07 <Lucifer> this whole open source model didn't come from nowhere, it's based on long-standing practices in the scientific community
00:07 <Vanhayes_> luke-jr, i say your way seems to be brainwashing
00:07 <cpayan> luke-jr, I was raised without a religion, is that brainwashing?
00:07 <luke-jr> cpayan: you can't be raised without a religion
00:07 <Vanhayes_> but then thats what they brainwashed me to think
00:07 <luke-jr> that is impossible
00:07 <Vanhayes_> luke-jr, I was
00:07 <cpayan> Definitely possible
00:08  * ct|kyle ponders sighting Lucifer for my speech on it :P
00:08 <luke-jr> maybe you were raised atheist
00:08 <cpayan> I never had a single faith or belief imposed on me
00:08 <cpayan> nope
00:08 <luke-jr> but that is a religion
00:08 <Vanhayes_> i wasnt raised anything
00:08 <cpayan> My parents just left all that out of my upbringing
00:08 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: if your speech is on video games, I'm probably a valid reference
00:08 <luke-jr> cpayan: that's called neglect
00:08 <Vanhayes_> i learned maybe 5 years ago my mom was baptist, not sure what my dad is
00:08 <Lucifer> players have cited me in the past :)
00:08 <cpayan> luke-jr, that's rude, excessively so
00:09 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: on open source software
00:09 <cpayan> have some fucking civility
00:09 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: then yes, I'm totally citable ;)
00:09 <luke-jr> cpayan: unlike an education system, parents have a duty to educate their children
00:09 <Lucifer> make sure to use my real name, though, heh ;)
00:09 <Vanhayes_> luke-jr, i was left to figure stuff out on my own, if I had a question they answered it, I just never really had a question
00:09 <cpayan> luke-jr, religion might not be a part of a regular education
00:09 <Lucifer> now, whether or not I'm *credible* is up to you to decide, since it's your speech
00:09 <cpayan> I was taught VALUES, not faith
00:10 <luke-jr> cpayan: theology is the highest of the sciences
00:10 <cpayan> don't speak badly about my parents
00:10 <Lucifer> but your teacher should accept me as a source if he/she allows an interview or email source (mine did)
00:10 <luke-jr> religion is the only essential area of education
00:10 <ct|kyle> mine allows an interview
00:10 <cpayan> luke-jr, that's not to say I don't know a decent amount of religion. I find it interesting. From a cultural standpoint
00:10 <cpayan> That is what religion is
00:10 <cpayan> Culture.
00:10 <Lucifer> hey, I've got open source credentials ;)
00:10 <Vanhayes_> hmm, how did we get on religion again, this always ends badly
00:10 <luke-jr> no
00:10 <ct|kyle> I have to figure out what main points I want to use though.
00:10 <cpayan> fine
00:11 <Lucifer> Vanhayes_: by letting luke-jr take part in the education discussion
00:11 <Vanhayes_> true
00:11 <Vanhayes_> always interesting though
00:11 <cpayan> anyways
00:11 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: just trying to keep you from falling into the trap of "well, he's my friend, and I can't cite friends"
00:11  * Vanhayes_ usually plays devil's advocate
00:11 <cpayan> i suppose I'll just move around the world, a shiftless heathen with a high school education.
00:11 <Lucifer> well, yes you can, if your friend has credentials appropriate to the topic
00:12 <luke-jr> notice how the world has degraded into almost a martial law society
00:12 <luke-jr> cameras everywhere
00:12 <luke-jr> you can't trust anyone
00:12 <Lucifer> luke-jr: they have treatments for paranoia
00:12 <Lucifer> good ones, that work
00:12 <Vanhayes_> moving around the world with a high school education is pretty much how id like to live for the next 5 years
00:12 <cpayan> Lucifer, aren't paranoiacs just people with all the facts?
00:12 <luke-jr> Lucifer: so every business on the planet needs to be treated, somehow?
00:13 <Lucifer> cpayan: no, but it can be an easy mistake to make
00:13 <luke-jr> how do you treat businesses?
00:13 <cpayan> heh, i was joking
00:13 <cpayan> luke-jr, what are you even talking about
00:13 <Lucifer> businesses that act paranoid
00:13 <cpayan> obviously, with infusions of cash :)
00:13 <Lucifer> make you sign NDAs and crap
00:13 <luke-jr> cpayan: individuals don't have the cameras up, businesses do
00:13 <luke-jr> governments too
00:13 <luke-jr> why are there metal detectors at government offices and courthouses?
00:14 <Lucifer> yeah, and there's like 2/3 of our working society devoted to studying the images on all of those cameras, making sure nobody gets away with anything
00:14 <cpayan> Well that's the role of government. To create constructs of trust. Whether they work depends on the people.
00:14 <luke-jr> who do stores put RFID on valuables?
00:14 <Vanhayes_> luke-jr, all depends on where you live, I think there is a security cam in the liquor store, and thats about it in my town
00:14 <luke-jr> cpayan: there is no basis for trust without religion
00:14 <Lucifer> we've got some traffic cameras
00:14 <luke-jr> Vanhayes_: WalMarts near you don't have cameras?
00:14 <Lucifer> luke-jr: what about the fact that without mutual cooperation and trust, our way of life breaks down?
00:14 <Vanhayes_> luke-jr, dont say "the world" when refering to the states, or more precise parts of the states
00:14 <Lucifer> you don't need religion, you just need a firm grounding in facts ;)
00:15 <cpayan> luke-jr, taking myself as an example, I trust most people, whether I know them or not, and I don't give a damn about their religion. Where is religion as a foundation of trust there?
00:15 <Vanhayes_> luke-jr, there is a wal-mart maybe half an hour away, i dont usually go there
00:15 <Lucifer> most people are trustworthy, regardless of their religion
00:15 <luke-jr> Lucifer: the irreligious "way of life" the world is currently in IS breaking down
00:15 <Lucifer> we've been bred that way for 10k years
00:15 <cpayan> Personal trust comes from experiences.
00:15 <Vanhayes_> the government buildings ive been into dont have metal detectors
00:15 <Lucifer> luke-jr: no it's not, just the economy that's collapsing
00:15 <Lucifer> yeah, quite a few here in austin don't have metal detectors either
00:16 <luke-jr> Lucifer: so you don't lock your house doors?
00:16 <Lucifer> luke-jr: not always, no
00:16 <Lucifer> and I've never had someone come in and steal anything
00:16 <cpayan> Lucifer, did you go to SXSW?
00:16 <Vanhayes_> the first time i saw a metal detector was less than a year ago when i flew for the first time
00:16 <Lucifer> cpayan: it hasn't started yet
00:16 <cpayan> err
00:16 <cpayan> yes it has...
00:16 <Lucifer> wait, there's several parts of it
00:16 <cpayan> ah yea
00:16 <cpayan> SXSWi
00:16 <Lucifer> usually people refer to the live music part, which I believe starts on friday
00:16 <Lucifer> no, I missed sxswi
00:17 <Lucifer> which is too bad, Chills was in town and I didn't get to hook up with him because I was busy getting laid and taking tests
00:17 <Lucifer> the tests were *not* related to getting laid, btw
00:17 <cpayan> nah, my sister went to SXSWi, and to tie that into the conversation on trust, she bought the ticket using tipjoy, a Twitter app for making donations
00:17 <cpayan> People trusted her to go to SXSWi, and not just run off with the 500 dollars
00:18 <cpayan> lol Lucifer
00:18 <Lucifer> you remember chills, though, right?
00:18 <cpayan> nope
00:18 <cpayan> iceman?
00:18 <Lucifer> hmmm, no, not iceman
00:18 <cpayan> no i don't remember chills
00:19 <Lucifer> you have to go back a ways to remember chills, I think back to BoC and earlier, goshdarn
00:19 <cpayan> ah i wasn't around then
00:19 <Lucifer> he was around in the early fortress days
00:19 <cpayan> was around then, though
00:19 <Lucifer> but not much, hard to find, and usually quiet
00:19 <cpayan> oh well
00:19 <Lucifer> yeah, oh well
00:19 <Lucifer> he works for opera, and he was in town for sxswi, and I got distracted, heh
00:20 <Lucifer> oh well, I need to send him a message telling him next time or something
00:20 <cpayan> works for opera? that's cool.
00:20 <cpayan> He's a dev for them, i'm guessing?
00:20 <Lucifer> yep
00:20 <Lucifer> hey, arma players aren't all losers, I don't care what the stereotypes may be
00:20 <Lucifer> there's really no telling who that is on the other side of the grid
00:21 <BabyBug> ...
00:21 <cpayan> heh, i'm not sure enough people that know about arma to create a particularly strong stereotype. But I doubt we have the same rep as chess players.
00:21 <Lucifer> no, the stereotype I'm talking about is here in the community
00:21 <BabyBug> hey...what's wrong with chess?
00:21  * Vanhayes_ takes poll who is unemployed atm
00:21 <Lucifer> outside, nobody knows us, and that's fine ;)
00:21 <Lucifer> Vanhayes_: underemployed count?
00:22 <BabyBug> I'll be employed in November
00:22 <Lucifer> and being unemployed/underemployed during the worst economic meltdown since WWII does *not* make you a loser
00:22 <Vanhayes_> true
00:22 <luke-jr> no, but it makes *you* a loser
00:22 <luke-jr> ;p
00:22  * cpayan unemployed
00:22 <luke-jr> j/k
00:22 <BabyBug> luke-jr, he's a loser whether he's unemployed or not.
00:22 <Vanhayes_> i waorked 10 months last year and made about 45000, and thats just starting out
00:23 <cpayan> that's good.
00:23 <ct|kyle> it only makes you a loser if your name is Dave
00:23 <luke-jr> 45000 what?
00:23 <Lucifer> CAD
00:23 <Vanhayes_> now im makeing less than 1000 a month on EI
00:23 <Vanhayes_> good ol recession
00:23 <luke-jr> ]y start theme=twg
00:23 <ljrbot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "]yandere" to join.
00:23 <cpayan> ?
00:23 <Lucifer> ]go fuck yourself
00:23 <ljrbot> Lucifer: Error: "go" is not a valid command.
00:23 <ct|kyle> ]stop
00:23 <ljrbot> ct|kyle: Error: "stop" is not a valid command.
00:23 <Lucifer> is too
00:24 <luke-jr> O.o
00:24 <ct|kyle> ]why quit
00:24 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
00:24 <ljrbot> ct|kyle: Error: "why" is not a valid command.
00:24 <BabyBug> #kban ljrbot
00:24 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: why so serious?
00:24 <BabyBug> :)
00:24 <ct|kyle> ]y quit
00:24 <ljrbot> The Worm Game game has been forced to end.
00:24 <luke-jr> ]y end
00:24 <ljrbot> luke-jr: There's no game here.
00:25 <luke-jr> o quit works too
00:25 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: I forgot I had auto-correct on :P
00:25 <luke-jr> lol
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00:25 <Lucifer> damn, I knew I was going to get tagged with that note sooner or later
00:25  * ct|kyle goes to remove y to why replacement
00:25 <Vanhayes_> hmm, what time is it Central right now?
00:25 <luke-jr> 6:25
00:26 <Vanhayes_> ah ok, 2 behind me, thanks
00:27 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: how is the zone bouncing coming along?
00:28 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: it's mostly impossible ☺
00:29 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: we can have a square object right, and the object would rotate around its center correct?
00:30 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: what?
00:31 <ct|kyle> how does rotation work with polygon zones?
00:31 <luke-jr> the entire object rotates around some origin point
00:31 <luke-jr> how that origin point is determined, I do not know
00:31 <ct|kyle> that is what I thought
00:32 <luke-jr> :O
00:32 <luke-jr> idea
00:32 <ct|kyle> origin point should be the so called Center of mass
00:33 <ct|kyle> so in our case would should be able to fin the line on the x-axes that splits the area and the line on the y axes, then take their  intersection point
00:34 <ct|kyle> but coding that, I have no clue how to do :P
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00:36 <luke-jr> Armagetron objects have no mass
00:36 <ct|kyle> that is why it should be based on area of the object
00:36 <Lucifer> whoah, that's heavy
00:36 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: I believe "centroid" is the word you're looking for
00:36 <Lucifer> the first moment of area
00:36 <Lucifer> or something like that
00:37 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: how can I be looking for a word I've never heard :P
00:37 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50870B28.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)]
00:37 <cpayan> zurd was logged in through a browser client o.O
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00:42 <luke-jr> he usually is
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00:48 <cpayan> zurd, i was wondering, is there a reason you use a web-based browser?
00:50 <luke-jr> he runs windows
00:50 <luke-jr> there is no good IRC client for Windows
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00:55 <Vanhayes_> xchat 2 isnt bad
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01:11 <luke-jr> anyone want to play on the spinning square map? :p
01:11 <smoothice> ?
01:11 <luke-jr> it's just the usual square map
01:11 <luke-jr> but the square spins
01:11 <luke-jr> :p
01:11 <smoothice> sure m'am
01:11 <BabyBug> server name?
01:11 <luke-jr> I didn't put it up yet
01:11 <smoothice> ...
01:11 <luke-jr> requires protobuf trunk client
01:11 <smoothice> oh
01:12 <smoothice> nevermind then
01:12 <smoothice> screw trunk
01:12 <luke-jr> …
01:12 <BabyBug> ...
01:12 <BabyBug> Why is the bottom option of every menu selected by default on trunk :s
01:12 <luke-jr> BabyBug: it isn't?
01:12 <BabyBug> It is for me
01:13 <luke-jr> report a bug
01:15 <BabyBug> Should i make a recording for that?
01:16 <dlh> Sure
01:16 <BabyBug> okies :)
01:19 <BabyBug> weeeeeeeee done
01:21 <BabyBug> luke-jr, where's that spinning map server? i just want to see what it's like
01:22 <BabyBug> unless maybe i can load the map locally
01:23 <BabyBug> oh i can't :( or don't know how
01:24 <Vanhayes_> #night
01:24 <Vanhayes_> bah i miss armabot
01:24 <smoothice> #night Vanhayes
01:24 <smoothice> wtf?
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01:24 <smoothice> .night
01:24 <tronner> Good night smoothice!
01:24 <smoothice> lol
01:24 <smoothice> luke-jr would probably even prefer that I leave LOL
01:24 <luke-jr> …
01:25 <luke-jr> BabyBug: working on it
01:25 <luke-jr> BabyBug: re the bug, expect to make someone a test account
01:25 <BabyBug> re the bug?
01:25 <luke-jr> I don't think ti will reproduce w/ a recording
01:25 <luke-jr> the menu thing
01:26 <ljrbot> New news from armagetronadbzr: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r898 spinning square map :D
01:26 <BabyBug> what do you mean re it?
01:26 <luke-jr> regarding it
01:26 <BabyBug> oh
01:26 <BabyBug> test account? what?
01:26 <BabyBug> :s
01:26 <BabyBug> on my computer?
01:26 <luke-jr> yeah
01:27 <BabyBug> oh...that might not be possible
01:27 <luke-jr> then fixing it might not be possible
01:27 <BabyBug> awwww shucks
01:28 <zurd> cpayan: what do you mean, with what?
01:31 <dlh> BabyBug: the bug shows up on playback of the recording on my machine.
01:32 <BabyBug> oo yay :)
01:32 <smoothice> luke-jr: will you let me defenestrate you?
01:32 <smoothice> .dict defenestrate
01:32 <tronner> smoothice: wn and gcide responded: wn: defenestrate v : throw through or out of the window; "The rebels stormed the palace and defenestrated the President"; gcide: defenestrate \de*fen"es*trate\ (d[-e]*f[e^]n"[e^]s*tr[=a]t), v. t. to throw (something or someone) out of a window. [PJC]
01:32 <dlh> BabyBug: WRAP_MENU 1
01:33 <dlh> there ya go
01:33 <BabyBug> ...
01:33 <BabyBug> Ok that should still be considered a bug!
01:33 <noob13> .bet 5
01:33 <tronner> You rolled 8. tronner rolled 2. You win 5! User noob13 now has 105 :)
01:34 <dlh> Do you really want wrap menu off?
01:34 <dlh> Maybe that option can just be removed entirely
01:34 <smoothice> .be 5
01:34 <smoothice> .bet 5
01:34 <tronner> New user smoothice has 100 credits to gamble! Good luck! :D
01:34 <smoothice> .ber 5
01:34 <smoothice> .bet 5
01:34 <tronner> You rolled 6. tronner rolled 5. You win 5! User smoothice now has 105 :)
01:34 <BabyBug> dlh, yes i do want it off :P
01:34 <dlh> ah
01:35 <noob13> .bet 45
01:35 <tronner> You rolled 5. tronner rolled 8. You lost 45! User noob13 now has 60 :(
01:35 <BabyBug> noob13, stop spamming >.<
01:35 <noob13> ;D
01:36 <BabyBug> and smoothice! Sorry..thought they were all the same person.
01:36 <noob13> i'm sorry, what are we talking about..
01:36 <BabyBug> Your names are the same colour
01:36 <smoothice> BabyIdiot: ?
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01:36 <BabyBug> nara nara nara <3333
01:36 <noob13> hi!
01:36 <nniveus> hey all :)
01:36 <smoothice> .bet 1
01:36 <tronner> Both rolled 6! Nobody won!
01:36 <smoothice> .bet 1
01:36 <tronner> You rolled 10. tronner rolled 8. You win 1! User smoothice now has 106 :)
01:37 <nniveus> what is that, a game? o_O
01:37 <smoothice> .bet 105
01:37 <tronner> You rolled 4. tronner rolled 7. You lost 105! User smoothice now has 1 :(
01:37 <smoothice> FRICK
01:37 <noob13> heh
01:37 <smoothice> LOL!
01:37 <nniveus> .bet 666
01:37 <tronner> New user nniveus has 100 credits to gamble! Good luck! :D
01:37 <smoothice> ..
01:37 <smoothice> .ber 666
01:37 <smoothice> .bet 666
01:37 <tronner> Can't bet 666! You only have 1!
01:38 <smoothice> .bet 1
01:38 <smoothice> .bet 1
01:38 <tronner> You rolled 6. tronner rolled 8. You lost 1! User smoothice now has 0 :(
01:38 <tronner> Can't bet 1! You only have 0!
01:38 <luke-jr> /kick tronner
01:38 <nniveus> lol
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01:38 <smoothice> .kick luke-jr
01:38 <luke-jr> .bet
01:38 <tronner> New user luke-jr has 100 credits to gamble! Good luck! :D
01:38 <luke-jr> .bet 5
01:38 <smoothice> .ner help
01:38 <tronner> You rolled 3. tronner rolled 8. You lost 5! User luke-jr now has 95 :(
01:38 <smoothice> .bet help
01:38 <luke-jr> .bet 10
01:38 <tronner> You have to place a bet!
01:38 <tronner> You rolled 8. tronner rolled 7. You win 10! User luke-jr now has 105 :)
01:38 <nniveus> .bet 100
01:38 <tronner> You rolled 10. tronner rolled 7. You win 100! User nniveus now has 200 :)
01:38 <nniveus> hahaha
01:38 <luke-jr> .bet 10
01:38 <tronner> You rolled 4. tronner rolled 2. You win 10! User luke-jr now has 115 :)
01:38 <luke-jr> .bet 15
01:38 <tronner> You rolled 4. tronner rolled 5. You lost 15! User luke-jr now has 100 :(
01:38 <luke-jr> .bet 15
01:39 <tronner> You rolled 4. tronner rolled 6. You lost 15! User luke-jr now has 85 :(
01:39 <luke-jr> .bet 25
01:39 <tronner> You rolled 4. tronner rolled 7. You lost 25! User luke-jr now has 60 :(
01:39 <luke-jr> .bet 10
01:39 <tronner> You rolled 9. tronner rolled 10. You lost 10! User luke-jr now has 50 :(
01:39 <luke-jr> .bet 25
01:39 <tronner> Both rolled 6! Nobody won!
01:39 <luke-jr> wtf
01:39 <nniveus> you guys are so cheap
01:39 <luke-jr> .bet 25
01:39 <tronner> You rolled 7. tronner rolled 5. You win 25! User luke-jr now has 75 :)
01:39 <nniveus> if you're gonna bet, bet the whole thing ;)
01:39 <luke-jr> .bet 25
01:39 <tronner> You rolled 6. tronner rolled 12. You lost 25! User luke-jr now has 50 :(
01:39 <luke-jr> .bet 25
01:39 <tronner> You rolled 6. tronner rolled 9. You lost 25! User luke-jr now has 25 :(
01:39 <luke-jr> .bet 25
01:39 <tronner> You rolled 7. tronner rolled 11. You lost 25! User luke-jr now has 0 :(
01:39 <luke-jr> .bet 25
01:39 <tronner> Can't bet 25! You only have 0!
01:39 <luke-jr> .bet 0
01:39 <tronner> You rolled 6. tronner rolled 3. You win 0! User luke-jr now has 0 :)
01:39 <luke-jr> :/
01:39 <nniveus> lol
01:39 <nniveus> .bet 200
01:40 <tronner> You rolled 7. tronner rolled 3. You win 200! User nniveus now has 400 :)
01:40 <nniveus> lol
01:40 <luke-jr> -.-
01:40 <luke-jr> .help bet
01:40 <tronner> luke-jr: (bet <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch [echo http://users.jyu.fi/~ilpale/dice.php?usr=$nick&bet=@1+@2+@3+@4&bot=tronner]".
01:40 <dlh>  /join #armagetron.botspam
01:40 <luke-jr> lulz
01:40 <nniveus> babybug, 13?
01:40 <luke-jr> nniveus: try again
01:40 <luke-jr> :D
01:41 <nniveus> .bet400
01:41 <nniveus> .bet 400
01:41 <tronner> Can't bet 400! You only have 0!
01:41 -!- g4p [n=jp@p4FCE39F4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Ex-Chat"]
01:42 <nniveus> what?!
01:42 <nniveus> you rigged it luke!
01:42 <luke-jr> pwnt
01:43 <nniveus> lol ya better watch out >:(
01:43 <luke-jr> .alias add bet "fetch [echo http://users.jyu.fi/~ilpale/dice.php?usr=$nick&bet=@1+@2+@3+@4&bot=tronner2]"
01:43 <luke-jr> f u tronner
01:44 <ct|kyle> where is armabot
01:45 <BabyBug> nniveus, 13????
01:45 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: mars
01:46 <noob13> nniveus, hi!
01:46 <noob13> .bet 45
01:46 <tronner> You rolled 4. tronner rolled 10. You lost 45! User noob13 now has 15 :(
01:46 <luke-jr> noob13: how do we reset?
01:46 <nniveus> :) hi guys
01:46 <nniveus> way to abandon me here with this cheater
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01:47 <noob13> luke-jr, do you have a gambling problem?
01:47 <luke-jr> only on your script
01:47 <noob13> i'll add a reset feature later ;P
01:49 <dlh> BabyBug: I pushed a fix to launchpad.
01:49 <dlh> hmm, but this probably is a problem in 0.2.8 too...
01:49 <BabyBug> dlh, yay ty :)
01:52 <luke-jr> dlh: what was it? O.o
01:53 <zurd> .bet 2000
01:53 <tronner> New user zurd has 100 credits to gamble! Good luck! :D
01:53 <zurd> :o
01:53 <luke-jr> I bet tronner rigged the dice
01:53 <nniveus> back
01:53 <nniveus> lawl i bet i just have gambling luck ;)
01:53 <zurd> .bet 2
01:53 <tronner> You rolled 8. tronner rolled 5. You win 2! User zurd now has 102 :)
01:53 <zurd> :O
01:54 <zurd> .bet 2
01:54 <tronner> You rolled 8. tronner rolled 5. You win 2! User zurd now has 810 :)
01:54 <zurd> .bet 2
01:54 <tronner> You rolled 9. tronner rolled 7. You win 2! User zurd now has 4 :)
01:54 <nniveus> o_O
01:54 <zurd> ???
01:54 <luke-jr> wtf
01:54  * nniveus looks at luke
01:54 <zurd> poont
01:54 <zurd> .bet 2
01:54 <tronner> Can't bet 2! You only have 0!
01:54 <zurd> ?!
01:54 <zurd> ?!!??
01:55 <zurd> .bet 0
01:55 <tronner> You rolled 4. tronner rolled 10. You lost 0! User zurd now has 0 :(
01:55 <zurd> .bet 0
01:55 <tronner> Both rolled 9! Nobody won!
01:55 <zurd> .bet 0
01:55 <tronner> You rolled 5. tronner rolled 6. You lost 0! User zurd now has 0 :(
01:55 <zurd> this is jacked up
01:55 <zurd> ]bet 0
01:55 <nniveus> lol
01:55 <ljrbot> zurd: Error: "bet" is not a valid command.
01:55 <nniveus> took you a while to confirm that zurd :P
01:55 <zurd> i want my money back!
01:56 <BabyBug> that was funny
01:59 <noob13> .bet plzdonate
01:59 <tronner> A donation of 21 has been sent to noob13.
01:59 <luke-jr> .bet plzdonate
01:59 <tronner> A donation of 28 has been sent to luke-jr.
01:59 <luke-jr> .bet plzdonate
01:59 <tronner> luke-jr got mugged. Lost -7! :(
01:59 <luke-jr> F U
01:59 <luke-jr> .bet plzdonate
01:59 <tronner> luke-jr got mugged. Lost -17! :(
01:59 <luke-jr> .bet plzdonate
01:59 <tronner> luke-jr got mugged. Lost -4! :(
01:59 <luke-jr> .bet plzdonate
01:59 <tronner> luke-jr got mugged. Lost -20! :(
01:59 <luke-jr> .bet plzdonate
01:59 <tronner> luke-jr got mugged. Lost -18! :(
01:59 <luke-jr> .bet plzdonate
01:59 <tronner> A donation of 22 has been sent to luke-jr.
01:59 <luke-jr> .bet 5
01:59 <tronner> Can't bet 5! You only have -16!
01:59 <luke-jr> …
01:59 <luke-jr> .bet plzdonate
01:59 <noob13> :P
01:59 <tronner> A donation of 18 has been sent to luke-jr.
01:59 <luke-jr> .bet 2
01:59 <tronner> Both rolled 6! Nobody won!
02:00 <luke-jr> .bet 2
02:00 <tronner> You rolled 6. tronner rolled 7. You lost 2! User luke-jr now has 0 :(
02:00 <luke-jr> .bet plzdonate
02:00 <tronner> luke-jr got mugged. Lost -8! :(
02:00 <luke-jr> .bet plzdonate
02:00 <tronner> A donation of 23 has been sent to luke-jr.
02:00 <luke-jr> .bet 20
02:00 <nniveus> noob you made this?
02:00 <tronner> You rolled 5. tronner rolled 7. You lost 20! User luke-jr now has 95 :(
02:00 <luke-jr> .bet 15
02:00 <tronner> You rolled 3. tronner rolled 6. You lost 15! User luke-jr now has 174 :(
02:00 <luke-jr> .bet 15
02:00 <tronner> Both rolled 6! Nobody won!
02:00 <luke-jr> .bet 15
02:00 <tronner> You rolled 6. tronner rolled 7. You lost 15! User luke-jr now has 159 :(
02:00 <luke-jr> .bet 15
02:00 <tronner> You rolled 2. tronner rolled 7. You lost 15! User luke-jr now has 144 :(
02:00 <luke-jr> .bet 15
02:00 <tronner> You rolled 7. tronner rolled 4. You win 15! User luke-jr now has 159 :)
02:00 <luke-jr> .bet 15
02:00 <tronner> Both rolled 7! Nobody won!
02:00 <luke-jr> .bet 150
02:00 <tronner> You rolled 11. tronner rolled 9. You win 150! User luke-jr now has 309 :)
02:00 <luke-jr> ok :p
02:01 <luke-jr> .bet 50
02:01 <tronner> Can't bet 50! You only have 9!
02:01 <luke-jr> ………………….
02:01 <nniveus> lawl
02:01 <noob13> hmm..
02:01 <nniveus> give up, go to vegas instead
02:01 <noob13> heh, something strange happaned apparently..
02:01 <noob13> nniveus, yea, bored in clas today -.-
02:01 <luke-jr> more like nniveus say there hittign reload on my link
02:02 <nniveus> well it was working perfectly till luke stole all my money
02:02 <luke-jr> prove it
02:02  * nniveus will not
02:02 <BabyBug> she wasn't the one hitting reload ;)
02:02 <nniveus> LOL
02:02 <luke-jr> BabyBug: gfy
02:02 <luke-jr> BabyBug: I bankrupt you minutes ago
02:03 <BabyBug> haven't you learned by now that i hate irc games?
02:03 <luke-jr> ]y start theme=twg
02:03 <ljrbot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "]yandere" to join.
02:03 <luke-jr> ]y force BabyBug
02:03 <BabyBug> ]y quit
02:03 <ljrbot> The Worm Game game has been forced to end.
02:03 <nniveus> lol
02:03 <nniveus> babybug do it just once ;) want to see how it works
02:04 <BabyBug> Newp
02:04  * nniveus nudges
02:04 <ct|kyle> .bet
02:04 <tronner> New user ct|kyle has 100 credits to gamble! Good luck! :D
02:04  * BabyBug nudges back
02:04 <nniveus> NO MORE GAMBLING
02:04 <luke-jr> .bet nniveus
02:04 <tronner> You have to place a bet!
02:04 <luke-jr> I DID
02:04 <nniveus> lols
02:04 <luke-jr> or are you saying nniveus is worthless?
02:04 <ct|kyle> .bet 20
02:04 <tronner> New user ct|kyle has 100 credits to gamble! Good luck! :D
02:04 <luke-jr> wtf
02:04 <BabyBug> haha ct|kyle can't play
02:04 <luke-jr> .bet 20
02:04 <tronner> Can't bet 20! You only have 9!
02:04 <luke-jr> …
02:04 <ct|kyle> .bet 20
02:04 <tronner> New user ct|kyle has 100 credits to gamble! Good luck! :D
02:04 <luke-jr> ………..
02:05 <ct|kyle> lol
02:05 <noob13> Oo
02:05 <BabyBug> i'm guessing it's the |
02:05 <ct|kyle> .bet 20
02:05 <tronner> New user ct|kyle has 100 credits to gamble! Good luck! :D
02:05 <noob13> true.
02:05 <luke-jr> .bet '); DELETE ALL FROM bet;
02:05 <tronner> You have to place a bet!
02:05 <luke-jr> aw
02:05 <BabyBug> nt luke, lol
02:05 -!- ct|kyle is now known as kyle3
02:05 <luke-jr> New user \');DELETE ALL FROM bets; has 100 credits to gamble! Good luck! :D
02:05 <luke-jr> -.-
02:06 <kyle3> .bet
02:06 <tronner> You have to place a bet!
02:06 <nniveus> we get that it's screwed up guys :)
02:06 <kyle3> .bet 20
02:06 <tronner> You rolled 4. tronner rolled 9. You lost 20! User kyle3 now has 80 :(
02:06  * nniveus wants to play the worm game >_>
02:06 <dlh> Anyone have any idea how to track a series in a bug, like on this one <https://bugs.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+bug/331940>?
02:06 <kyle3> .bet 29
02:06 <tronner> You rolled 7. tronner rolled 11. You lost 29! User kyle3 now has 51 :(
02:06 <luke-jr> ]y start theme=twg
02:06 <teabot> Launchpad bug 331940 in armagetronad/trunk "trunk can't connect to servers" [High,Fix committed]
02:06 <ljrbot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "]yandere" to join.
02:06 <kyle3> .bet 50
02:06 <tronner> You rolled 9. tronner rolled 5. You win 50! User kyle3 now has 152 :)
02:06 <nniveus> ]yandere
02:07 <luke-jr> noob13: play
02:07 <BabyBug> ]y quit
02:07 <ljrbot> The Worm Game game has been forced to end.
02:07 <nniveus> lawl
02:07 <luke-jr> ]admin ignore add BabyBug
02:07 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
02:07 <nniveus> babybugs >:(
02:07 <luke-jr> ]y start theme=twg
02:07 <ljrbot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "]yandere" to join.
02:07 <nniveus> ]yandere
02:07 -!- kyle3 is now known as ct|kyle
02:07 <ct|kyle> ]y quit
02:08 <ljrbot> The Worm Game game has been forced to end.
02:08 <luke-jr> >:O
02:08 <luke-jr> ]admin ignore add ct|kyle
02:08 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
02:08 <luke-jr> ]y start theme=twg
02:08 <ljrbot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "]yandere" to join.
02:08 <nniveus> luke xD
02:08 <luke-jr> ]y force noob13
02:08 <luke-jr> ]y force zurd
02:08 <luke-jr> ]y force nniveus
02:08 <luke-jr> ]yh
02:08 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: #kick ljrbot
02:08 <ljrbot> At 3:33 in the morning, the computer wakes up to an illegal opcode. It's coming from the direction of KWrite! You all run to her directory and find that she was wasted by corrupt memory. She seems to have been the victim of a worm!
02:08 <ljrbot> This game has 1 worm. It's your job to determine the worms.
02:08 <ljrbot> This game starts at DAY. Discuss.
02:08 <ljrbot> Current players: luke-jr, noob13, zurd, and nniveus.
02:09 <nniveus> so
02:09 <ct|kyle> nniveus == worm
02:09 <nniveus> anyone want to explain? :P
02:09 <luke-jr> ]vote nniveus
02:09 <ljrbot> luke-jr has voted for nniveus. nniveus: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 3
02:09 <luke-jr> nniveus: ]y help
02:09 <nniveus> ]y help
02:09 <noob13> hmm..
02:10 <dlh> Please, have bot games in another channel.
02:10 <BabyBug> dlh, type ]y quit to stop it :)
02:10 <luke-jr> dlh, wait till this game is done
02:10 <nniveus> hm i feel bad now :/ you guys hate it that much?
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02:11 <grrr> ]y quit
02:11 <ljrbot> The Worm Game game has been forced to end.
02:11 <ljrbot> Evil worms: luke-jr
02:11 <ljrbot> Firewalls: noob13
02:11 <grrr> mwahaha
02:11 <ljrbot> Hardware: nniveus
02:11 <ljrbot> Virus scanners: zurd
02:11 <noob13> :P
02:11 <nniveus> ;(
02:11 <noob13> i am a firewall?
02:11 <luke-jr> #armatwgetron
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02:12 -!- noob13 is now known as noob|13
02:12 <noob|13> .bet 2
02:12 <tronner> You rolled 10. tronner rolled 11. You lost 2! User noob13 now has 20.00657765285 :(
02:12 -!- noob|13 is now known as noob13
02:12 <luke-jr> noob13: didn't you hear dlh?
02:12 <noob13> no
02:12 <noob13> oh right..
02:12 -!- smoothice [n=smoothic@97-118-165-122.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #armagetron
02:13 <luke-jr> noob13: #armatwgetron
02:13  * nniveus pokes noob
02:14  * BabyBug cuddles nniveus 
02:14  * nniveus ignores for not playing with her :/
02:14 <BabyBug> Oh i'll play with you any night hunni ;)
02:15 <nniveus> so why not tonight? D;
02:15 -!- zurd [i=629675b5@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2869664c782e1e79] has quit ["http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client"]
02:15 <BabyBug> cause bossy bitch is on msn :P
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02:16 <luke-jr> nsh22: #armatwgetron
02:16 <nniveus> there are a number of people who can fit that name
02:16 <nsh22> brb
02:17 <BabyBug> nniveus, lizmatic :P
02:18 <nniveus> lol
02:18 <nniveus> i see ;_;
02:19 <nsh22> what name?
02:20 <luke-jr> ]sd -v spinning
02:20 <ljrbot> luke-jr: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “spinning” at the moment, sorry.
02:21 <nsh22> FAIL (btw what are you trying to do
02:22 <luke-jr> ]sd -v spinning
02:22 <ljrbot> luke-jr: Zones v2 Spinning Square Map ( running 0.3_alpha8658 unix dedicated, url: http://lightfoot.dashjr.org, Description: “Hosted on Luke-Jr's Armagetron Servers -- http://lightfoot.dashjr.org“, Players (0/16):
02:22 <luke-jr> ☺
02:22 <nsh22> o0
02:23 <nsh22> did u do what i think yu did?
02:23 <luke-jr> XD
02:23 <nniveus> >_> what happened?
02:23 <nsh22> square ones?
02:23 <nsh22> square zones*?
02:25 <luke-jr> nsh22: nothing new there
02:25 <nsh22> luke-jr: ??? ive never heard about them
02:26 <ljrbot> New news from armagetronadbzr: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r899 Rebase quit working again... merge || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r898 Select first menu item. Fixes bug #345172... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] spinning square map :D
02:26 <nsh22> oh, the map spins?
02:27 <nsh22> wtf?
02:35 <nsh22> @gtfy nniveus x-chat 2
02:35 <teabot> nniveus: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=x-chat%202
02:40 <nniveus> i'll get my hands on that in a bit
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02:52 <luke-jr> BabyBug: ok
02:52 <BabyBug> :)
02:52 <luke-jr> ]sd -v spinning
02:52 <ljrbot> luke-jr: Zones v2 Spinning Square Map ( running 0.3_alpha20090318 unix dedicated, url: http://lightfoot.dashjr.org, Description: “Hosted on Luke-Jr's Armagetron Servers -- http://lightfoot.dashjr.org“, Players (1/16): luke-jr
02:59 -!- nsh22 [n=neal@unaffiliated/nsh22] has joined #armagetron
02:59 <nsh22> luke-jr: what version do  i need to get on the spinning map server
03:00 <nsh22> btw thats the first time ive ever seen you on a server
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03:03 <nsh22> luke-jr: !
03:04 <nsh22> ]sd -v spinning
03:04 <ljrbot> nsh22: Zones v2 Spinning Square Map ( running 0.3_alpha20090318 unix dedicated, url: http://lightfoot.dashjr.org, Description: “Hosted on Luke-Jr's Armagetron Servers -- http://lightfoot.dashjr.org“, Players (1/16): luke-jr
03:05 <BabyBug> nsh22, trunk
03:05 <nsh22> dammit
03:06 <nsh22> ...
03:06  * nsh22 hates his inability to do anything with the trunk or any of its files
03:07 <nsh22> @pool 4
03:07 <nsh22> @poll 4
03:07 <teabot> nsh22: Poll #4: "Should armabot be brought back?" started by neal. Options: #1: "yes"; #2: "no".  Poll is open.
03:07 <nsh22> @poll 4 1
03:07 <teabot> nsh22: (poll [<channel>] <id>) -- Displays the poll question and options for the given poll id. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
03:09 <nsh22> ]si df
03:09 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: "si" is not a valid command.
03:12 <nsh22> ]night
03:12 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: "night" is not a valid command.
03:12 <nsh22> ]alias add night " echo Good night $who !"
03:12 <ljrbot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
03:12 <nsh22> ]night
03:12 <ljrbot> Good night nsh22 !
03:12 <nsh22> wewt im gettin good at this :P
03:13 <BabyBug> ]night
03:13 <ljrbot> BabyBug: Error: "night" is not a valid command.
03:13 <BabyBug> not that good
03:13 <nsh22> o0
03:13 <nsh22> ]night
03:13 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: "night" is not a valid command.
03:13 <nsh22> ]alias add morn " echo Good mornin' $who !"
03:13 <ljrbot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
03:13 <nsh22> ]alias add night " echo Good night $who !"
03:13 <ljrbot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
03:13 <nsh22> ]night
03:13 <ljrbot> Good night nsh22 !
03:13 <nsh22> ]morn
03:13 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: "morn" is not a valid command.
03:13 <nsh22> ]night
03:13 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: "night" is not a valid command.
03:14 <nsh22> i has a feeling luke (or  someone else) is deleteing them as i make them...
03:14 <nsh22> ]alias add night "echo Good night $who !"
03:14 <ljrbot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
03:14 <nsh22> ]night
03:14 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: "night" is not a valid command.
03:15 <nsh22> you fail
03:15 <nsh22> ]alias list
03:15 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: The "Alias" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "list" in it.  Try "list Alias" to see the commands in the "Alias" plugin.
03:15 <nsh22> ]list alias
03:15 <ljrbot> nsh22: roulette, /me, 8ball, a, aawiki, abstain, abstains, action, add, aka, armaconfig, ban, blame, bzr, cheer, die, die, ding, fake, faustov, femalesheep, findyandereplayers, fist, flush, fuck, get, gishslap, give, h, hi, hui, hurry, iamnotaretard, iamretard, inf, insult, is, itsalie, jimp, kickban, kicks, kill, lastseen, lbargue, lick, lickban, lock, logs, loli, lolly, make, man, myip, (2 more messages)
03:15 <nsh22> ]more
03:15 <ljrbot> nsh22: nowai!, orly?, petition, phokeu, pino, r, raep, rape, rating, rating2, redefine, remove, ren, rm, rri, runciblegun, sd, sex, sheepfucker, shut, soap, stab, stalk, stfu, stuff, sucks, summon, tea, thatgif, thing, twg, unlock, unvote, van, vote, wave, whoareyou, whofarted, wito, y, ya, yandere, yandre, yarly!, yc, yc2, ye, yex, yh, yj, yokatta, youtube, yr, yu, yv, ヤ, ヤンデレ, (1 more message)
03:15 <nsh22> ]help raep
03:15 <ljrbot> nsh22: (raep <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "/me raeps $1 .".
03:16 <nsh22> ]help rape
03:16 <ljrbot> nsh22: (rape <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "action rapes $1.".
03:16 <nsh22> ]help get
03:16 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: That command exists in the Alias and Quote plugins.  Please specify exactly which plugin command you want help with.
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03:26 <ljrbot> New news from armagetronadbzr: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r900 Corrected selected value
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03:27 <ljrbot> luke-jr: Title: Latest Revisions for Armagetron Advanced; URL: <https://code.launchpad.net/armagetronad>; Description: unavailable; Last updated: 21 minutes and 33 seconds ago.
03:32 <smoothice> ]echo luke-jr: WTF?
03:33 <luke-jr> smoothice: FTW
03:33 <luke-jr> ]sd -v spinning
03:33 <ljrbot> luke-jr: Zones v2 Spinning Square Map ( running 0.3_alpha20090318 unix dedicated, url: http://lightfoot.dashjr.org, Description: “Hosted on Luke-Jr's Armagetron Servers -- http://lightfoot.dashjr.org“, Players (1/16): luke-jr
03:46 <luke-jr> http://tassiedevil.com.au/
03:48 <luke-jr> oops, I reported bug 345216 about 2 weeks early :x
03:48 <teabot> Launchpad bug 345216 in armagetronad "Tasmanian devils are real" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/345216
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04:26 <ljrbot> New news from armagetronadbzr: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r901 height=0.01 on border walls
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04:57 <Pathetique> wrtlprnft: BUG: maptransform.py scales all numbers that occur in <Field> and it's children, including spawn point directions.
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11:02 <joda_bot> luke-jr: XML default values in DTD are bad :-)
11:02 <joda_bot> luke-jr: believe me, if you can avoid default values in DTDs don't do it
11:20 <joda_bot> luke-jr: might have misread the bug report .. implicict attributes in DTDs are bad, because they require validation by a parser (to add the default attributes).
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12:27 <Lucifer> http://www.good.is/?p=14716
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14:30 <ljrbot> New news from armagetronadbzr: [armagetronad-old-glancing] r761 Merge from trunk
14:40 <nsh22> luke-jr: how har would it be for *me* to add auth to one of my servers? could i just edit the version?
14:58 <luke-jr> nsh22: sure, as long as you compile the new version you specify
14:59 <nsh22> o0
14:59 <luke-jr> and install it
14:59 <luke-jr> joda_bot: worse yet are default values that aren't supposed to be correct :
15:00 <nsh22> luke-jr: i think zurd already installed it5 (and i did deit the svcconfig file and it worked :P)
15:00 <luke-jr> SvcConfig has two uppercase letters
15:01 <nsh22> yes i know...
15:01 <nsh22> thats what i meant...
15:02 <nsh22> luke-jr: where can i edit the ai?
15:02 <luke-jr> nsh22: you need to copy the aiplayers.cfg to the local server config/ dir
15:03 <nsh22> ok
15:03 <nsh22> ty
15:05 <nsh22> why is it that you cant adjust the amout of brake you have (like in rubber)
15:06 <nsh22> btw, since we have the bulid bot now, will the trunk be put into an installable [ackage ?
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15:08 <nsh22> o0
15:08 <nsh22> hai
15:11 <akira_arma> question:
15:12 <akira_arma> compiler gives me an "usleep was not declared in this cope" ... can anyone tell me what to include in the header?
15:12 <akira_arma> scope*
15:12 <akira_arma> in tConsole.cpp
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15:15 <joda_bot> akira_arma: state the system you compile on (which target etc. ?)
15:15 <joda_bot> this might help: http://www.ruby-forum.com/topic/174648
15:15 <akira_arma> w32
15:16 <joda_bot> there seems to be some problem with configure and usleep with newer mingw versions
15:17 <akira_arma> so absically it cant find some function?
15:18 <joda_bot> yes
15:18 <joda_bot> and you can't just use sleep instead
15:19 <joda_bot> because win32 sleep has a different time unit (microseconds on unix, milliseconds on windows)
15:21 <joda_bot> which version of mingw do you use ?
15:21 <joda_bot> usleep might be in "include/unistd.h"
15:21 <joda_bot> #include <unistd.h> (if that is not already included)
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15:22 <akira_arma> nope its not
15:23 <joda_bot> if you add this put a comment above it which points to this release note, I guess that you use mingw newer than 3.15
15:23 <joda_bot> http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=24832
15:23 <akira_arma> yay
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15:23 <akira_arma> it was there
15:23 <akira_arma> and another stupid error
15:23 <akira_arma> :(
15:23 <joda_bot> or just write required for mingw >3.15
15:24 <joda_bot> well try googling the error message
15:24 <joda_bot> ;D
15:24 <akira_arma> nice syntax error
15:24 <akira_arma> ;)
15:25 <joda_bot> This helped me locate the include :-) and the point it was introduced in mingw:
15:25 <joda_bot> http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=usleep+include+mingw&btnG=Suche&meta=
15:25 <akira_arma> i solved it
15:25 <akira_arma> now i get
15:25 <akira_arma> windres.exe: F:\\project\\ARMAGE~1\\src\\win32\\ARMAGE~1.RC:70: syntax error
15:25 <akira_arma> :D
15:26 <akira_arma> it'd be alot easier if I would understand what the error is about :(
15:27 <joda_bot> beats me ... I don't know either ... which version of windres.exe do you use, and what is line 70 :D
15:27 <joda_bot> did you change that file ?
15:27 <akira_arma> no
15:27 <akira_arma> this is line 70
15:27 <joda_bot> you might have checked out the code with linux linebreaks... perhaps windres.exe requires ... uhm ...
15:28 <joda_bot> ok, I guess it expects a version number there
15:28 <joda_bot> is armagetronad.rc generated ?
15:28 <joda_bot> I don't remember :-)
15:29 <joda_bot> just try to change major_version to 0 or 2 :-)
15:29 <joda_bot> windres.exe will probably complain about MINOR_VERSION next
15:30 <ljrbot> New news from armagetronadbzr: [themes] r6 an example page, and a page with the colors used
15:31 <joda_bot> akira_arma: try running win32\update_Version.bat
15:32 <akira_arma> i am doing alls teps again now
15:32 <joda_bot> I guess you did not do it, so windres.exe actually fails to find version.h or finds a broken syntax file
15:32 <akira_arma> steps
15:32 <joda_bot> ok
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15:32 <joda_bot> just dump me the version.h after you can update_version.bat
15:33 <joda_bot> can --> run
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15:37 <joda_bot> akira_arma: do you build trunk ? for vista ? if you've got any fixes we're happy to patch our resources :D
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15:43 <akira_arma_> sorry my internet just exploded
15:43 <akira_arma_> where is that version.h located?
15:43 <joda_bot> (15:32:34) joda_bot: ok
15:43 <joda_bot> (15:32:37) Lackadaisical hat den Raum verlassen (quit: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)).
15:43 <joda_bot> (15:32:50) joda_bot: just dump me the version.h after you can update_version.bat
15:43 <joda_bot> (15:33:07) joda_bot: can --> run
15:43 <joda_bot> (15:34:35) zurd [i=629675b5@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-80aad57112fce668] hat den Raum betreten.
15:43 <joda_bot> (15:37:05) joda_bot: akira_arma: do you build trunk ? for vista ? if you've got any fixes we're happy to patch our resources :D
15:43 <joda_bot> akira_arma: let me check
15:44 <joda_bot> it's generated in the root of the src folder :D
15:45 <akira_arma_> there is only a trueversion.h
15:45 <akira_arma_> tTrue*
15:46 <joda_bot> is there a update_version.bat  in the win32 subfolder?
15:46 <akira_arma_> yes
15:46 <nsh22> luke-jr: how often do your servers get hacked?
15:46 <akira_arma_> i ran it ebfore compiling
15:46 <joda_bot> which branch/launchpad/svn code archive, are you trying to build ?
15:47 <joda_bot> akira_arma: sounds right to me
15:47 <akira_arma_> dlh's old glancing trunk
15:47 <joda_bot> uh.... so it's a modified trunk build ?
15:47 <akira_arma_> http://rafb.net/p/auaeam40.html
15:48 <akira_arma_> thats the tTrueversion.h file
15:48 <joda_bot> looks strange ?
15:48 <akira_arma_> i have no idea
15:48 <akira_arma_> lol
15:48 <joda_bot> can you dump the output of update_version.h and put it on rafb.net ?
15:49 <joda_bot> ehh stop
15:49 <joda_bot> the console output of running update_version.bat
15:49 <akira_arma_> stopping..
15:49 <akira_arma_> yea siure
15:49 <joda_bot> akira_arma: and it might also help to know where you run it from :D
15:51 <akira_arma_> http://rafb.net/p/cVtASQ63.html
15:51 <joda_bot> ah ok, so someone modified the update_version.bat :D
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15:51 <akira_arma_> that would be dlh
15:52 <joda_bot> akira_arma_: just edit the armagetron.rc to include tTrueVersion.h
15:52 <akira_arma_> ok
15:52 <joda_bot> there is also a syntax error when running python
15:52 <joda_bot> hope that does not break anything
15:53 <akira_arma_> actually it tries to include tTrueversion
15:53 <akira_arma_> or better it inlcudes
15:53 <akira_arma_> ;)
15:54 <akira_arma_> #include "..\tTrueVersion.h"
15:56 <joda_bot> ok, just edit the tTrueVersion.h :D
15:56 <akira_arma_> to what?
15:56 <akira_arma_> :)
15:56 <joda_bot> I guess windres.exe does not like -old-glancing
15:56 <akira_arma_> yup
15:56 <akira_arma_> trhat might bne
15:56 <joda_bot> just make it 0,3,0,4
15:56 <akira_arma_> windows doesnt like slashes etc in filenames
15:56 <joda_bot> something like that
15:57 <joda_bot> something that's a valid normal version number :D
15:57 <joda_bot> also you might want to add a datestamp behind _alpha
15:58 <joda_bot> because you're python 3.01 does not like my "datatime.date.today" python
15:58 <akira_arma_> format?
15:58 <joda_bot> YYYYMMDD=20090317
15:58 <akira_arma_> ah
15:58 <joda_bot> eh 19
15:58 <joda_bot> :D
15:58 <akira_arma_> so the whole line or only the stamp?
15:59 <joda_bot> akira_arma_: if you know some python try to fix that or just try "date.today()"
15:59 <joda_bot> only the stamp
15:59 <joda_bot> wait I'll dump a fixed MAJOR, MINOR_ VERsion
15:59 <akira_arma_> separated with comma or something?
15:59 <akira_arma_> from alpha*
15:59 <akira_arma_> thanks :)
15:59 <joda_bot> #define MAJOR_VERSION 0,3,0,4
15:59 <joda_bot> #define MINOR_VERSION _alpha20080319
16:01 <akira_arma_> omfg built!
16:01 <akira_arma_> no i am curious
16:01 <akira_arma_> now*
16:01 <joda_bot> hehe, akira_arma_ :-) cool :-)
16:01 <zurd> .bet 2
16:01 <tronner> You rolled 8. tronner rolled 4. You win 2! User zurd now has 12 :)
16:02 <zurd> .bet 2
16:02 <tronner> You rolled 8. tronner rolled 2. You win 2! User zurd now has 14 :)
16:02 <zurd> .bet 2
16:02 <tronner> You rolled 5. tronner rolled 10. You lost 2! User zurd now has 12 :(
16:02 <joda_bot> send dlh a merge request later ( no idea how to do that with launchpad yet)
16:02 <zurd> .bet 10
16:02 <tronner> You rolled 6. tronner rolled 10. You lost 10! User zurd now has 2 :(
16:02 <zurd> .bet 2
16:02 <tronner> Both rolled 5! Nobody won!
16:02 <zurd> .bet 1
16:02 <tronner> Both rolled 3! Nobody won!
16:02 <zurd> .bet 1
16:02 <tronner> You rolled 7. tronner rolled 8. You lost 1! User zurd now has 1 :(
16:02 <akira_arma_> but why does it build no binary?
16:02 <zurd> .bet 1
16:02 <tronner> You rolled 5. tronner rolled 9. You lost 1! User zurd now has 0 :(
16:02 <zurd> >.<
16:03 <joda_bot> akira_arma_: uh ? linker errors ? or it's not in the directory you're looking for ? :-)
16:03 <akira_arma_> well i am in the build folder
16:03 <akira_arma_> build / dist
16:03 <akira_arma_> :(
16:04 <nsh22> .bet 10
16:04 <tronner> New user nsh22 has 100 credits to gamble! Good luck! :D
16:04 <nsh22> .bet 10
16:04 <tronner> Both rolled 5! Nobody won!
16:04 <nsh22> .bet 10
16:04 <tronner> You rolled 6. tronner rolled 2. You win 10! User nsh22 now has 110 :)
16:04 <nsh22> .bet 10
16:04 <tronner> You rolled 3. tronner rolled 11. You lost 10! User nsh22 now has 100 :(
16:04 <nsh22> .bet 10
16:04 <tronner> You rolled 6. tronner rolled 11. You lost 10! User nsh22 now has 90 :(
16:04 <nsh22> .bet 10
16:04 <tronner> You rolled 7. tronner rolled 6. You win 10! User nsh22 now has 100 :)
16:04 <BabyBug> joda_bot, you just need to use brackets for the print() function so it'll work with python 2 and 3
16:04 <nsh22> 100
16:04 <nsh22> .bet 100
16:04 <tronner> Both rolled 8! Nobody won!
16:04 <nsh22> .bet 100
16:04 <tronner> You rolled 10. tronner rolled 6. You win 100! User nsh22 now has 200 :)
16:04 <nsh22> .bet 100
16:04 <tronner> You rolled 10. tronner rolled 7. You win 100! User nsh22 now has 300 :)
16:04 <nsh22> .bet 100
16:04 <tronner> You rolled 6. tronner rolled 11. You lost 100! User nsh22 now has 200 :(
16:04 <nsh22> .bet 100
16:04 <tronner> You rolled 10. tronner rolled 7. You win 100! User nsh22 now has 300 :)
16:04 <BabyBug> nsh22, stop fucking spamming
16:05 <joda_bot> #kick nsh22
16:05 <P4> can't you play PRV?!
16:05 <joda_bot> :R
16:05 <joda_bot> P4: hi , thx :-)
16:05 <nsh22> joda_bot: armabots not here
16:05 <P4> hi joda_bot :)
16:05 <P4> why?
16:05 <akira_arma_> this is annoying :(
16:05 <joda_bot> akira_arma_: see BabyBug's fix
16:05 <nsh22> BabyBug: ok oim done
16:05 <akira_arma_> well it has nothing to do with this now
16:05 <joda_bot> P4: armabot has been replaced by ljrbot
16:05 <joda_bot> and buildbot
16:05 <joda_bot> I guess
16:05 <P4> oh
16:06 <akira_arma_> since the build is finished without errors
16:06 <joda_bot> akira_arma_: what do you use to build code::blocks ?
16:06 <akira_arma_> i ran makedist after
16:06 <zurd> armabuilder: status
16:06 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle, last build 293904 secs ago: failed Distcheck Installcheck
16:06 <armabuilder> linux-server: idle, last build 278551 secs ago: build successful
16:06 <akira_arma_> yes blcks
16:07 <joda_bot> hm, try clicking on the run button, and looke for the executables in %arma_dir%\buidl..\
16:07 <joda_bot> but someone might have changed the directories too :-)
16:08 <joda_bot> I guess I understand the need for tTrueVersion.h now
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16:11 <akira_arma_> o wait
16:11 <akira_arma_> NOT built
16:12 <akira_arma_> gah
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16:12 <akira_arma_> some stuff is missing in winlibs
16:12 <akira_arma_> :/
16:13 <akira_arma_> mingw32-g++.exe: .\libZThread.a: No such file or directory
16:13 <akira_arma_> mingw32-g++.exe: ..\..\..\winlibs\protobuf\vsprojects\libprotobuf.a: No such file or directory
16:17 <akira_arma_> found the latter but not the former
16:17 <akira_arma_> joda_bot: care to dcc_send it to me?
16:18 <joda_bot> akira_arma_: I've not build trunk for ages, I don't have that lib
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16:19 <akira_arma_> downloading..
16:20  * nsh22 is cold
16:20 <BabyBug> go die in a volcano then
16:21 <joda_bot> akira_arma_: did you find pre_compiled win32 versions ?
16:21 <akira_arma_> ah
16:21 <akira_arma_> no idea
16:21 <akira_arma_> ;)
16:22 <BabyBug> Is it only possible to build the windows version on windows?
16:22 <luke-jr> nsh22: never?
16:22 <akira_arma_> actually i give up
16:22 <akira_arma_> :/
16:22 <joda_bot> akira_arma_: ok, I'll take a look, but if I don't find them, I don't mind you adding the neccessary stuff to the Winlibs Code::Blocks project :-)
16:22 <nsh22> luke-jr: ok :P just wondering how often armaservers get hacked to disprove soeone
16:22 <luke-jr> oh, armaservers
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16:23 <luke-jr> as often as their owners put bad passwords on them I guess
16:23 <compguygene> hi luke
16:23 <luke-jr> hi
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16:24 <compguygene> my servers now have assigned ports...lol
16:25 <joda_bot> akira_arma_: I might try to fix trunk project files and dependencies on the weekend
16:25 <joda_bot> akira_arma_: if I'm motivated enough :-)
16:25 <akira_arma_> yea care for the poor w32 users
16:25 <akira_arma_> ;)
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16:26 <compguygene> that would be kewl...
16:26 <epsy> hm?
16:28 <compguygene> hi epsy...i plan to make an attempt to make a windows install out of teh trunk
16:28  * compguygene really wants to check out the new stuff
16:28 <epsy> ah right
16:29 <compguygene> unfortunatley, until i get a new laptop..no pc i call my own ergo no linux
16:30 <joda_bot> compguygene: talk to akira_arma_ he got pretty far
16:30 <zurd> easy solution
16:31 <epsy> I should get the cmakelists windows-friendly
16:31 <joda_bot> compguygene: just have to fix two library dependencies :-) ...
16:31 <joda_bot> epsy: more build chains for windows are welcome :-)
16:31 <epsy> stuff like "${PYTHON_INTERPRETER} script" instead of "script"
16:31 <joda_bot> epsy: did anyone prepare lib zthread and protobuf for windows ?
16:31 <epsy> then it should work as far as the linxu build does
16:32 <epsy> I don't know
16:32 <joda_bot> e.g. add them to one version of winlibs ?
16:32 <epsy> zthread is kinda temporary anyway
16:32 <compguygene> well, when you guys feel that the trunk is ready...i have the neccesary tools installed on 2 pc's
16:32 <BabyBug> I thought there was a winlibs branch?
16:32 <joda_bot> epsy: what's the goal with zhreads ?
16:32 <epsy> joda_bot, main priority was lightweightness, so it would fit as a new dep for
16:32 <joda_bot> BabyBug: there is, but some dependencies are not updated / included yet
16:33 <epsy> now, we will soon have boost linked
16:33 <joda_bot> epsy: ah, ok and boost replaces zthread ?
16:33 <epsy> so using boost::threads would be far better:
16:33 <epsy> 1/ boost is well-known and you can expect it to be installed
16:33 <joda_bot> hm ok... I guess I'll have to dump the full boost 10MB into the winlibs then :-P
16:33 <epsy> 2/ that removes a dep
16:33 <epsy> lol
16:34 <epsy> cmake should find them on the system afaik
16:34 <joda_bot> cmake ? but you need to drop the boost headers somewhere ?
16:35 <epsy> _I_ don't know :/
16:35 <joda_bot> epsy: do you know any project focusing on providing precompiled win32 libraries ?
16:35 <epsy> cygwin haha
16:35 <joda_bot> because I'd rather add a few more precompiled updated into winlibs and maintain those, than to add soo much source files (copied from another repository)
16:35 <epsy> otherwise I don't know, they usually just do them themselves
16:36 <joda_bot> on the other hand, someone needs to build the newer versions of the "precompiled" libs and I only know sites for some of the libraries (for example gnu32 and sdl.org)
16:37 <joda_bot> eh, gnuwin32 :D
16:37 <joda_bot> yeah, but it might help to just provide a central organized repository of precompiled(updated) libraries (static and dll with headers)
16:38 <epsy> or even a package manager, huh ? :)
16:38 <epsy> that should exist
16:38 <joda_bot> epsy: find it , please :D
16:39 <epsy> http://www.winpackman.org/
16:39 <epsy> heh :/
16:39 <joda_bot> epsy: I guess there is no such thing for open source windows stuff :-| and afaik microsoft compiler and mingw both can use the same dll but might require different .lib files indicating the function addressed
16:39 <epsy> http://code.google.com/p/winaptic/
16:40 <joda_bot> epsy: last build 2007
16:40 <epsy> yeah :
16:40 <epsy> :<
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16:44 <compguygene> you might try win-get
16:44 <compguygene> http://windows-get.sourceforge.net/
16:47 <compguygene> unfortunatly, last build 2007 also
16:48 <epsy> http://windows-get.sourceforge.net/listapps.php
16:50 <joda_bot> compguygene: it makes no sense to have libs which are not maintained :-|
16:50 <joda_bot> epsy: did you actually see the list of apss ?
16:51 <epsy> no
16:51 <epsy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBi6NI-W3Zs&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Ffailblog.org%2Fpage%2F2%2F&feature=player_embedded
16:52 <epsy> arma's last release was in 2006 also :)
16:52 <compguygene> i see that...just trying to help...but i haven't seen any other projects like what your looking for..
16:52 <compguygene> lol
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16:55 <zurd> .bet 1
16:55 <ct|kyle> zurd: FAIL
16:55 <zurd> ct|kyle agreed
16:55 <epsy> hrmpf
16:57 <BabyBug> oi epsy that's my word!
16:58 <epsy> :<
16:58 <compguygene> catch u all later...i'm going to play some arma..while taking my short break..later all
16:58 <epsy> bb
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17:00 <joda_bot> I need a win32 ports :-P project on launchpad :-) that just generates .lib / header etc. in an easy way (and can provide them for all)
17:02 <luke-jr> joda_bot: wtf?
17:02 <joda_bot> then I'd also need to maintain it or ask library devs to update the builds ... on release which won't happen ... :D soo scrap that :-)
17:03 <joda_bot> luke-jr: you've got distributions to maintain / create updated precomiled libraries ... poor windows people have to compile them all the time
17:03 <joda_bot> atleast those where projects choose not to provide development dlls /libs
17:03 <joda_bot> with headers
17:04 <luke-jr> joda_bot: .lib isn't really a library you know
17:04 <luke-jr> .lib is just a bunch of metadata
17:05 <luke-jr> someone tell tronner to get a clue
17:05 <luke-jr> anyhow, I see no reason to help Windows
17:07  * BabyBug sees a reason
17:07 <epsy> http://www.cmake.org/cmake/help/cmake2.6docs.html#command:option
17:07 <epsy> luke-jr, I'm officially dumb :)
17:08 <luke-jr> epsy: so is cmake
17:08 <luke-jr> sounds like some idiot decided defaults should be hardcoded?
17:08 <luke-jr> oh
17:08 <luke-jr> misread it
17:08 <luke-jr> nm
17:09 <epsy> heh :)
17:09 <epsy> right, floor shows properly, but I still get no AI
17:09 <epsy> weird
17:09 <luke-jr> epsy: be careful to make sure you build plugins the same way
17:09 <luke-jr> eg, not via any .a file
17:10 <epsy> hm?
17:10 <luke-jr> for example, zZone.o gets put into libtron.a which gets linked into armagetronad
17:10 <luke-jr> you can't have a .a with plugins
17:10 <epsy> ah
17:11 <luke-jr> the linker will discard them
17:11 <epsy> you mean having .so's and co?
17:11 <luke-jr> since nothing references them
17:11 <luke-jr> no
17:11 <luke-jr> if you have zFortress.o inside libtron.a, the linker will discard it
17:11 <luke-jr> you need to specify zFortress.o on the link command
17:11 <epsy> oh, I get it
17:11 <luke-jr> same for any other addons
17:13 <luke-jr> epsy: eEvent cannot be used locally?
17:13 <luke-jr> eg, not sent over the network?
17:13 <epsy> it can
17:13 <epsy> just don't Send() it, only Execute() it
17:13 <luke-jr> i c
17:13 <luke-jr> would it be as efficient as using virtuals like we do now?
17:14 <epsy> what do you mean?
17:14 <luke-jr> eg, the "Inside" event for every object inside a zone
17:14 <luke-jr> every timestep
17:14 <epsy> ah
17:14 <epsy> no, I'd rather keep it to "x entered zone"
17:14 <epsy> but well, you're free to do otherwise
17:15 <luke-jr> Inside/Entry are the same kind of event currently :o
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17:40 <epsy> right
17:42 <smoothice> anyone have an experience putting binary data into MySQL?
17:43 <epsy> like #mysql?
17:47 <joda_bot> smoothice: programming language you're using try to check if it has blob support (binary large object)
17:47 <joda_bot> the database has to support that too, of course ?
17:47 <smoothice> PHP/MYSQL
17:48 <smoothice> trying to use mysql as an image database
17:48 <smoothice> joda_bot: allowing images to be uploaded using a client-side application using POST and then stored in MySQL for viewing
17:50 <BabyBug> smoothice, what do you want to know exactly?
17:53 <smoothice> BabyBug: how to insert images into the database using PHP
17:53 <smoothice> as binary
17:54 <smoothice> I tried googling
17:54 <smoothice> but I'm not using an HTML form
17:54 <smoothice> It's coming from a C socket connection via POST
17:55 <BabyBug> smoothice, you have the field data type in the table set as longblob?
17:55 <joda_bot> smoothice: are you sure you want to code that yourself ? why not use gallery2 ? :-)
17:56 <joda_bot> smoothice: also I'm not sure putting images into the db is wise, because a webserver can serve them much faster without the db ?
18:01 <smoothice> joda_bot: this is large scale project
18:01 <smoothice> joda_bot: file I/O might not be any faster?
18:01 <joda_bot> smoothice: are you using data abtraction layers ?
18:01 <smoothice> joda_bot: ???
18:01 <joda_bot> usually reinventing the wheel is more painful ?
18:02 <smoothice> but file I/O might not be any faster
18:02 <joda_bot> smoothice: there are kernel mods for serving files from kernel memory etc. which is not possible with databases
18:02 <smoothice> this is also going to run on shared web hosting
18:02 <joda_bot> smoothice: also often images are server from different servers than the php/database one
18:03 <smoothice> standard consumer shared web hosting
18:03 <joda_bot> smoothice: this contradicts "large scale project" :D
18:03 <smoothice> well
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18:03 <smoothice> I'm part of a large scale company running on low scale hosting
18:03 <joda_bot> smoothice: I can understand though, that customizing gallery2 might not be want you want :)
18:03 <smoothice> we don't have that much $$
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18:04 <joda_bot> smoothice: will you always have mysql databases, php and apache ?
18:04 <joda_bot> or might the environment differ
18:04 <joda_bot> ?
18:04 <joda_bot> argh, time
18:04 <joda_bot> smoothice: talk to you in 1-2h ... just g2g sry
18:04 <smoothice> k
18:04 <smoothice> joda_bot: k
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18:31 <zurd> .bet 1
18:31 <ljrbot> New news from armagetronadbzr: [armagetronad-map-unified-dtd] r902 merge up to 0.3.1-a into map.dtd
18:31 <zurd> .whoami
18:31 <tronner> zurd: I don't recognize you.
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18:36 <zurd> ]whoami
18:36 <ljrbot> zurd: I don't recognize you.
18:36 <zurd> @whoami
18:36 <teabot> zurd: I don't recognize you.
18:36 <zurd> #whoami
18:36 <zurd> ugh
18:36 <epsy> zurd: I don't recognize you.
18:37 <zurd> >.<
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18:42 <zurd> omfg i got a 4page essay due in 1hr
18:42 <zurd> peace
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19:31 <ljrbot> New news from armagetronadbzr: [armagetronad-map-unified-dtd] r907 fix for older zone format || [armagetronad-map-unified-dtd] r906 bump map.dtd version & copy || [armagetronad-map-unified-dtd] r905 bump ver || [armagetronad-map-unified-dtd] r904 merge up to 0.3.1-c into map.dtd || [armagetronad-map-unified-dtd] r903 fix up zone effect merging || [trunk-cmake] r904 Use option() for dedicated. Floor now shows properly. Auto-M...
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19:57 <nsh22> herro
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19:57 <nsh22> .bet .5
19:57 <zurd> .bet 1
19:58 <noob13> somebody disabled it :P
19:58 <nsh22> ...
19:58 <zurd> >.<
19:58 <nsh22> wiould that someone be BabyBug ?
19:58 <zurd> Luke-jr PING
19:58 <noob13> he or she needs tronner alias capability..
19:58 <noob13> not sure..
19:58 <noob13> .help bet
19:58 <tronner> noob13: (bet <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "gambling fails".
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19:58 <luke-jr> zurd: wat
19:59 <noob13> .alias remove bet
19:59 <BabyBug> Not me, but whoever did it deserves a big hug!
19:59 <noob13> ;D
19:59 <smoothice> ct|kyle: ping
19:59 <smoothice> .seen joda_bot
19:59 <tronner> smoothice: joda_bot was last seen in #armagetron 1 hour, 55 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <joda_bot> smoothice: talk to you in 1-2h ... just g2g sry
20:00 <noob13> .seen noob7
20:00 <tronner> noob13: I have not seen noob7.
20:00 <smoothice> .seen noob13
20:00 <noob13> .seen armabot
20:00 <tronner> smoothice: noob13 was last seen in #armagetron 7 seconds ago: <noob13> .seen noob7
20:00 <tronner> noob13: armabot was last seen in #armagetron 5 weeks, 3 days, 2 hours, 30 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <armabot> s0beit: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo: Players (8/12): -=VcL.SoBeiT, @RG@Brezer, CT_emphasis, drodimo, Micky, Mr|Flo, _-`Ww_Gaspard, ~|DST|~AshitakA
20:00 <smoothice> tronner: hi
20:00 <tronner> Hello :) [q]
20:00 <smoothice> tronner: what's new?
20:01 <smoothice> I  Tronner
20:01 <smoothice> ct|kyle: ping?
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20:02 <noob13> ;P
20:02 <noob13> !bet top
20:02 <Frobot> [1] nniveus: 400 [2] nsh22: 300 [3] Karambol: 170 [4] pilot1123: 147 [5] mama: 107 [6] plt: 100.01 [7] ctkyle: 100 [8] Caemyr: 100 [9] kahukai: 100 [10] Banan: 100 [11] morsik: 80 [12] Milya0: 40 [13] P4: 40 [14] Ilkka: 26 [15] Remik: 10
20:02 <smoothice> ,,,
20:02 <smoothice> !part
20:02 <Frobot> smoothice: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
20:02 <smoothice> dammit
20:02 <nsh22> sweet im second :P
20:02 <smoothice> nsh22: cool for your butt :P
20:05 <noob13> !bet 7
20:05 <Frobot> Can't bet 7! You only have 0!
20:05 <noob13> !bet plzdonate
20:05 <Frobot> noob13 got mugged by evil donkeys! Lost 4! :(
20:05 <noob13> !bet plzdonate
20:05 <Frobot> noob13 got mugged by evil donkeys! Lost 1! :(
20:05 <noob13> -.-
20:05 <MrBougo> !bet plzdonate
20:05 <Frobot> MrBougo got mugged by evil donkeys! Lost 0! :(
20:06 <MrBougo> wtf is this? :p
20:06 <MrBougo> !help
20:06 <Frobot> MrBougo: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
20:06 <MrBougo> !list bet
20:06 <Frobot> MrBougo: Error: 'bet' is not a valid plugin.
20:06 <akira_arma> some new random spam script
20:06 <noob13> type !bet first
20:06 <MrBougo> !bet help
20:06 <Frobot> New user MrBougo has 100 credits to gamble! Good luck! :D
20:06 <MrBougo> eh
20:06 <MrBougo> !bet first
20:06 <Frobot> You have to place a valid bet!
20:06 <noob13> numeric :P
20:06 <MrBougo> aahaha
20:06 <MrBougo> !bet 5
20:06 <Frobot> You rolled 11. Frobot rolled 5. You win 5! User MrBougo now has 105 :)
20:06 <BabyBug> omg it was disabled on tronner for a reason..
20:06 <MrBougo> :)
20:06 <smoothice> .bet 1
20:07 <smoothice> lol
20:07 <nsh22> !bet
20:07 <Frobot> You have to place a valid bet!
20:07 <nsh22> !bet 100
20:07 <Frobot> You rolled 7. Frobot rolled 6. You win 100! User nsh22 now has 400 :)
20:07 <smoothice> !bet 100
20:07 <Frobot> Can't bet 100! You only have 0!
20:07 <MrBougo> !bet 105
20:07 <nsh22> !bet 100
20:07 <Frobot> You rolled 6. Frobot rolled 8. You lost 105! User MrBougo now has 0 :(
20:07 <Frobot> You rolled 7. Frobot rolled 10. You lost 100! User nsh22 now has 300 :(
20:07 <akira_arma> i gi´ve it 2 more days
20:07 <nsh22> !bet 100
20:07 <Frobot> You rolled 12. Frobot rolled 8. You win 100! User nsh22 now has 400 :)
20:07 <MrBougo> hahaha
20:07 <smoothice> luke-jr: plz
20:07 <nsh22> !bet 100
20:07 <Frobot> You rolled 4. Frobot rolled 11. You lost 100! User nsh22 now has 300 :(
20:07 <MrBougo> !bet plzdonate
20:07 <Frobot> A donation of 26 has been sent to MrBougo.
20:07 <smoothice> luke-jr: kick
20:07 <MrBougo> !bet 26
20:07 <Frobot> You rolled 8. Frobot rolled 6. You win 26! User MrBougo now has 52 :)
20:07 <smoothice> luke-jr: kickban Frobot
20:07 <BabyBug> smoothice, there's no armabot..
20:07 <smoothice> right...
20:07 <nsh22> but there is a ljrbot
20:08 <smoothice> guru3: kickban Frobot please!!!
20:08 <BabyBug> That bot can't kick.
20:08 <nsh22> o0
20:08 <nsh22> give it ops and try it
20:08 <noob13> !part
20:08 <smoothice> ok I'll be in #armagetron-0.3-sty then
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20:08 <smoothice> putting this channel on silence
20:09 <MrBougo> we're done, you know
20:09 <MrBougo> :p
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21:05 <zurd> :o
21:05 <zurd> bb
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21:26 <nsh22> any1 here good with bazaar?
21:27 <smoothice> yes
21:27 <epsy> nsh22, FOR FUCKS SAKE
21:27 <epsy> nsh22, do NOT ask to ask JUST ASK
21:28 <nsh22> is this a correct command : bzr branch lp:yandere/0.2
21:28 <nsh22> epsy: what, maybe ppl arnt good with bzr
21:28 <BabyBug> nsh22, yes it is.
21:28 <BabyBug> nsh22, Do you really think, a channel containing people who use bzr on a daily basis, are not good with bzr?
21:28 <epsy> it is a correct branch, if 0.2 is a release series of yandere that has a main branch
21:28 <nsh22> ...
21:29 <nsh22> well it says bzr s not a recognized command
21:29 <BabyBug> You need to install bzr first...
21:29 <smoothice> ...
21:29 <smoothice> nsh22: -.-
21:29 <smoothice> nsh22: fail...
21:29 <MrBougo> lol
21:30  * epsy points out one hardly needs to know bzr well to understand that
21:31 <nsh22> BabyBug: ... i already have it, thats where im inputing the command
21:31 <nsh22> im not THAT retarded
21:32 <BabyBug> nsh22, Where are you inputting the command? :s
21:32 <epsy> type bzr version
21:32 <epsy> & that, too
21:33 <nsh22> ... bzr is still not recognized as a command
21:33 <nsh22> bah...
21:33 <epsy> so it is not installed [properly]
21:33 <epsy> what did you do so far?
21:34 <nsh22> ah, i g2g anyways, ill deal with it tomorroow
21:34 -!- nsh22 [n=neal@unaffiliated/nsh22] has quit ["gud bye"]
21:34 <BabyBug> ...
21:34 <smoothice> wow
21:34 <epsy> we'd have it already fixed if he started with his error message
21:35 <MrBougo> :p
21:37 <epsy> blah, I'm bored as ugly shit
21:37 <MrBougo> epsy, that's very bored
21:37  * epsy is drowning now
21:38 <epsy> (MrBougo: you litterally /asked/ for it)
21:38 <MrBougo> epsy, ????
21:38 <epsy> if you didn't get it, so it be
21:38 <MrBougo> yeah
21:38 <MrBougo> well
21:39 <MrBougo> mind to explain?
21:39 <epsy> no
21:39 <MrBougo> kay
21:39 <MrBougo> screw you :)
21:39 <epsy> you'd say screw you as well if I explained it
21:39 <MrBougo> I'll let you get back to your boredness
21:39 <MrBougo> nope cause no word can hurt me :p
21:39 <BabyBug> epsy, you should work on eeevents if you're bored :)
21:40 <BabyBug> or cmake so that it can get merged
21:40 <BabyBug> and look pretty
21:40 <epsy> now wtf is with the AIs not coming and the map being on a white bg
21:40 <BabyBug> still not fixed? :s
21:42 <epsy> the floor is fixed
21:43 <epsy> I have however no idea about the map nor the AIs
21:43 <epsy> well, fixed is a big word
21:43 <epsy> it has been worked around
21:43 <epsy> (just like it had been with the autostuff)
21:45 <BabyBug> hrmph
21:47 -!- HyperDrive [n=chatzill@5ac2539a.bb.sky.com] has joined #armagetron
21:47 <HyperDrive> greetings programs
21:47 <epsy> Got one :)
21:47  * BabyBug is not a program
21:47 <HyperDrive> heh
21:48 <epsy> <Arnold voice>STOP WHINNING
21:48 <HyperDrive> this is the first time ive ever used irc
21:48 <HyperDrive> so go easy on me :D
21:48 <epsy> welcome
21:48 <HyperDrive> ty
21:48 <epsy> just kidding
21:48 <HyperDrive> bast***
21:48 <HyperDrive> XD
21:48 <epsy> :->
21:49 <HyperDrive> so what do I do now XD
21:49 <BabyBug> Well what you don't do is play silly little IRC games that spam the channel
21:49 <epsy> either iddle or chat
21:49 <epsy> idle *
21:49 <HyperDrive> hey im new, give me a break
21:50 <HyperDrive> what is this channel for exactly ?
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21:51 <epsy> hah
21:51 <BabyBug> epsy, what's the the "v" on the end of Armagetron Advanced on the main menu? (cmake branch)
21:51 <HyperDrive> hey z-man
21:51 <HyperDrive> <- rumpole
21:51 <epsy> BabyBug, the [empty] version tag
21:51 <z-man> Ah.
21:51  * z-man was about to ask who the fuck you are :)
21:51 <BabyBug> epsy, ooooo...you need to fix that to?
21:51 <HyperDrive> hehe
21:51 <epsy> BabyBug, someone needs to edit the python script that generates it
21:51 <BabyBug> What are you waiting for?! 8-)
21:52 <epsy> it sounds BOOORIINGG
21:52 <epsy> more than the build order hacks
21:52 <BabyBug> It's not boring
21:52 <HyperDrive> so im guessing that this is a technical channel then
21:52 <epsy> BabyBug, patches welcome :(
21:52 <epsy> HyperDrive, depends on who's talking
21:52 <BabyBug> Hey python i can do!...erm...which python script? :)
21:53 <epsy> it must be something like batch/make/version.py
21:53 <HyperDrive> I wish I knew how to work this chat thing
21:53 <epsy> yeah
21:53 <HyperDrive> I'll have to find a manual
21:54 <HyperDrive> Is chatzilla firefox plugin a good app to use ?
21:54 <epsy> never tried that
21:54 <epsy> I've dropped the idea of using my browser for everything a long while ago
21:54 <epsy> (especially since firefox is being so crashy with flash)
21:54 <HyperDrive> this is the 1st app ive used on my browser
21:54 <epsy> I use xchat
21:55 <BabyBug> What's a version meant to look like and how the hell is it generated? lol
21:56 <epsy> you just have to fill the fields, second
21:56 <HyperDrive> Is it easy to remove the rim wall rendering (Im guessing it is)
21:56 <HyperDrive> can I just comment out the line, will that cause problems
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21:57 <epsy> BabyBug, see batch/make/version
21:57 <HyperDrive> hi joda.bot
21:57 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: hi
21:57 <joda_bot> smoothice: hi
21:57 <epsy> if you need help on what terms I'm using hl me
21:57 <joda_bot> sorry too about 2h longer than expected :-|
21:57 <BabyBug> epsy, okies :)
21:59 <HyperDrive> brb im going to read the irc manual :P
22:00 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: I never wanted to find one :-)
22:00 <noob13> .tea
22:00 <tronner> noob13: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
22:00 <epsy> z-man, any other link tricks except gFloor, cMap, cCamview and cCockpit?
22:01 <HyperDrive> i need a manual, i dont know why i keep getting funny messages from epsy and joda_bot in the freenode tab
22:01 <HyperDrive> XD
22:01 <epsy> like?
22:02 <HyperDrive> epsy>	[#armagetron] HyperDrive, depends on who's talking
22:02 <HyperDrive> 	<joda_bot>	[#armagetron] HyperDrive: hi
22:02 <HyperDrive> 	<joda_bot>	[#armagetron] HyperDrive: I never wanted to find one :-)
22:02 <HyperDrive> like that
22:02 <HyperDrive> those are not appearing in the #armagetron tab
22:02 <epsy> I suppose it's one of your client's features which is to log lines that highlight you on a separate tab, in case there's a lot of stuff going on
22:03 <epsy> highlihging somone means writing his name so it shows red on his end
22:03 <HyperDrive> I need the manual :P
22:03 <epsy> highlighting*
22:03 <epsy> that's a pretty neat feature, tbh, and I'm looking forward to replicate it here
22:03 <HyperDrive> let me try that then
22:03 <HyperDrive> lol I dont know how
22:03 <epsy> if you type ep<tab> you're going to highlight me :)
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22:04 <HyperDrive> epsy: hello
22:04 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: *highlight* what client do you use ?
22:04 <epsy> HyperDrive, oh, hi, didn't see you! :)
22:04 <epsy> nsh22, [22:35] <epsy>: we'd have it already fixed if he started with his error message
22:05 <HyperDrive> joda_bot: im using chatzilla plugin for firefox
22:05 <nsh22> huh?
22:05  * joda_bot uses pidgin here 
22:05 <nsh22> epsy: you mean my bzr troubles?
22:05 <epsy> yes
22:05 <nsh22> kk
22:06 <HyperDrive> joda_bot: I dont know how safe chatzilla is but I couldnt find any bad reports so went ahead and tried it anyway
22:07 <nsh22> ok, i just opened bzr
22:07 <BabyBug> epsy, I now agree with you that bzrlib docs are crappy :)
22:07 <HyperDrive> can someone tell me what http://rafb.net/paste/ is ?
22:07 <joda_bot> luke-jr: why call the events born if everybody else call it spawning and spawn_time etc. ?
22:07 <epsy> BabyBug, phew :)
22:07 <epsy> nsh22, "opened bzr" ?
22:07 <nsh22> epsy: ok, i typed in bzr branch lp:yandere/0.2
22:07 <nsh22> bzr = bazzar
22:08 <HyperDrive> using this irc thing (first time) is really scaring me
22:08 <epsy> bazaar not bazzar kss
22:08 <HyperDrive> lol
22:08 <joda_bot> HyperDrive: rafb.net is a online clipboard used to exchange short upto longer copies of text (between people)
22:08 <epsy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pastebin
22:09 <joda_bot> I always get epsy's warning attention if I try to paste more than 4-5 lines in a row  :-)
22:09 <HyperDrive> joda_bot: thanks
22:09 <nsh22> and i got this error: 'bzr' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batcvh file
22:09 <HyperDrive> thanks
22:09 <epsy> nsh22, what did you open?!
22:09 <nsh22> bazaar!
22:09 <HyperDrive> is it good for pasting ascii art ?
22:09 <HyperDrive> hehe
22:09 <epsy> nsh22, from your home screen, decribe the process that leads you to this
22:09 <epsy> HyperDrive, lol
22:09 <nsh22> ok
22:10 <nsh22> start->programs->bazaar->start bzr in cmd shell
22:10 <epsy> right
22:11 <nsh22> then in the command prompt that pops up i type in bzr branch lp:yandere/0.2
22:11 <HyperDrive> guy do you think that commenting out the lines in arma that render the rim walls will have any side effects (apart from the obvious lack of rim walls XD)
22:11 <nsh22> and i get the error
22:11 <HyperDrive> guys*
22:11 <epsy> nsh22, perhaps it is nsh22.exe ?
22:11 <epsy> erm
22:11 <epsy> nsh22, perhaps it is bzr.exe ?
22:11 <epsy> HyperDrive, don't know
22:11 <nsh22> huh
22:11 <epsy> HyperDrive, best is to try for yourself
22:11 <HyperDrive> heh
22:12 <Vanhayes> whats an average amount for your tax return, anyone know?
22:12 <nsh22> HyperDrive: the wall might be invisible, not rendered on screeen but the computer might still think hey are there, you just cant see them
22:12 <HyperDrive> I was wondering if the rendering buffer (is there one ?) would fill up if the walls are not rendered
22:13 <nsh22> epsy: i tried to open bzr, a cmd promt came up and disappeard within 1/2 a second
22:13 <HyperDrive> nsh22 thats exactly what i want
22:13 <HyperDrive> walls there but not visible
22:13 <nsh22> then try it
22:13 <HyperDrive> im trying to squeze more fps out of my comp
22:14 <epsy> HyperDrive, frames are cleared in armagetron
22:14 -!- arrow [n=euclid@adsl-dyn40.78-99-184.t-com.sk] has quit ["Leaving."]
22:14 <epsy> unless you use ztrick
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22:14 <epsy> which drives you sick anyway since not every pixel is meant to be painted, unlike in quake for example
22:14 <HyperDrive> i dont use ztrick so that should be ok then
22:15 <epsy> it was removed from menu afaik
22:15 <nsh22> epsy: is that supposed to happen?
22:15 <epsy> nsh22, ?
22:15 <nsh22> <nsh22> epsy: i tried to open bzr, a cmd promt came up and disappeard within 1/2 a second
22:15 <epsy> "to open bzr" ?
22:15 <epsy> is bzr in your path?
22:15 <nsh22> well, bzr.exe
22:15 <nsh22> i think so
22:16 <nsh22> oh, wait
22:16 <nsh22> that was the problem :P
22:16 <epsy> what was the problem?
22:16 <nsh22> i have it in c instaead of c:\progeramfiles
22:16 <epsy> well then reinstall it
22:16 <nsh22> no, i just changed my path
22:17 <nsh22> ... and now i need pageant open...
22:17 <epsy> pageant?
22:17 <nsh22> puTTy pageant
22:18 <HyperDrive> omg I just looked at the latest entry in the pastebox and found this
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22:18 <HyperDrive> :-)), <_b_><url>http://ragga-jungle.com/index.php?showuser=7540#1|Buy Tramadol</url></_b_>
22:18 <HyperDrive> 712, <_b_><url>http://forum.openx.org/index.php?showuser=26746#1|cheapest Hydrocodone</url></_b_>
22:18 <HyperDrive> 79987, <_b_><url>http://www.lightstalkers.org/ChrisGatling#1|buy levitra online</url></_b_>
22:18 <HyperDrive> 059, <_b_><url>http://www.hairmaxforum.com/forum/member.php?u=16513#1|Adipex</url></_b_>
22:18 <HyperDrive> >:),
22:18 <HyperDrive> thats worse than ascii art for sure
22:18 <epsy> HyperDrive, pastebinpastebinpastebin
22:18 <HyperDrive> box bin meh
22:18 <nsh22> hurrah, im in
22:19 <epsy> if you want to tell about a paste, link it, duh
22:19 <epsy> can someone hl me?
22:19 <BabyBug> epsy
22:19 <nsh22> epsy!
22:19 <HyperDrive> sorry im very sleepy today, http://rafb.net/p/eydgPi67.html
22:19 <epsy> well nice, I've got no idea where it went
22:20 <nsh22> where what went?
22:20 <HyperDrive> I was working an a manual until 6am this morning so I must apologize for my sleepy noobness
22:22 <nsh22> luke-jr: where would i find the file that tells you what to do (i.e. when someone hasnt voted yet) in yandere
22:23 <epsy> bah, who knows
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22:23 <nsh22> wb
22:23 <HyperDrive> wb
22:24 <epsy> can someone HL ?
22:24 <nsh22> EPSY!
22:24  * epsy unloads hook
22:25 <nsh22> ??
22:25 <epsy> Information
22:25 <epsy>  
22:25 <epsy> You cannot make another search so soon after your last; please try again in a short while.
22:25 <epsy> that's one of the reasons I HATE phpbb
22:25 <HyperDrive> brb I have to install some drivers so I have to change to admin
22:25 <HyperDrive> later
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22:28 <nsh22> luke-jr: nvm i found it, but the word loli is hard coded...
22:28 <epsy> ok, can someone try now
22:28 <nsh22> EPSY!
22:30 <epsy> whoops, again please :<
22:35 <nsh22> epsy
22:36 <nsh22> luke-jr: i think i fixed it...
22:36 <epsy> seems to work
22:36 <epsy> one more please
22:36 <nsh22> epsy
22:36 <epsy> good :)
22:36 <nsh22> epsyepsyepsyepsyepsyepsyepsyepsyepsyepsyepsyepsyepsyepsyepsyepsyepsyepsyepsyepsyepsyepsyepsyepsyepsyepsyepsy
22:36 <nsh22> epsy
22:36 <epsy> that one won't hl :)
22:37 <epsy> well, now I have HL logs
22:37 <nsh22> luke-jr: can you make me a developer in yander so i can fix it?
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23:38 <guru3> Concord: you there?
23:38 <Concord> yes
23:38 <guru3> did you make the examples directory in bzr?
23:39 <Concord> that was lack
23:39 <guru3> ok
23:39 <guru3> i need tomove it -_-
23:39 <guru3> should be in html/
23:39 <guru3> nice work on the phpbb3
23:39 <Concord> thnx :)
23:39 <guru3> when i hover in my browser
23:39 <nsh22> whats going on now?
23:39 <guru3> the seperator between columns changes color
23:39 <guru3> i recommend that not happen
23:40 <Concord> yeah, I need to finish it up
23:40 <Concord> the path of forum->topic isn't displaying either
23:40 <guru3> and the avatars & stuff are on the right
23:40 <guru3> those need to be on the left
23:41 <guru3> and what's the 'T' at the bottom of every post? ><
23:41 <Concord> hmm?
23:41 <guru3> i think the post replace/new topic buttons can be made out a span instead of an image
23:42 <Concord> ok
23:43 <guru3> http://guru3.net/temp/t.png
23:43 <guru3> that t
23:43 <guru3> remains a mystery to me
23:44 <Concord> :P
23:44 <guru3> never seen it before
23:44 <Concord> I'll add that to the list ;)
23:45 <guru3> the buttons in the UCP are acting up too, since you're listing things :)
23:45 <Concord> ok
23:45 <luke-jr> joda_bot: dunno, isn't spawn specific to a certain type?
23:46 <epsy> BabyBug, ping
23:46 <BabyBug> epsy, pong (i'll be back in 10 minutes or so)
23:47 <epsy> BabyBug, anything new?
23:48 <joda_bot> luke-jr: no, even quake has "spawn" points :-)
23:48 <luke-jr> for one type: players ☺
23:48 <joda_bot> does not matter if it's a bot, wall or player being spawned
23:48 <joda_bot> I find it more precise than born
23:48 <luke-jr> whatever
23:49 <luke-jr> I won't complain if you change it
23:49 <epsy> a certain type?
23:50 <joda_bot> luke-jr: hmm ,ok
23:51 <joda_bot> epsy: I guess either object or game mode
23:52 <luke-jr> epsy: wehn I think spawn, I think just player objects
23:52 <luke-jr> not zones, walls, etc
23:54 <joda_bot> luke-jr: call it eUpdateGameObject eAddGameObject ?
23:55 <luke-jr> …
23:55 <luke-jr> what?
23:56 <nsh22> epsy: to make a comit, do i have to b ecd'ed into the folder that i am commiting?
23:56 <joda_bot> oh, eh, e=Eingine right ? ... what ever the prefix is for event then
23:57 <guru3> my back hurts :/
23:59 <nsh22> epsy: ping

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