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--- Day changed Sat Mar 21 2009
00:02 <joda_bot> ct|kyle: ??? what was that about "your mum" ?
00:03 <epsy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4GCOpxQvzs
00:04 <ivantis2> epsy, i got "this video is no longer available"
00:04 <epsy> gotta love that laugh
00:05 <ivantis2> .echo epsy! that video didnt work for me (ivantis2)
00:05 <tronner> epsy! that video didnt work for me (ivantis2)
00:06 <epsy> don't abuse tronner please
00:06 <MrBougo> .echo ok
00:06 <tronner> ok
00:07 <MrBougo> night :p
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00:07 <ct|kyle> joda_bot: nothing
00:08 <joda_bot> ct|kyle: atleast Hyp3 seemed not to like your statement :-P
00:08 <epsy> night
00:09 <joda_bot> epsy: thx I think, does it relate in anyway to my questions or was it just your "random" association ?
00:09 <joda_bot> epsy: gn8
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00:11 <Vanhayes> .ping
00:11 <tronner> pong
00:12 <ct|kyle> pong
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01:04 <cpayan> .ping
01:04 <tronner> pong
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01:16 <noob13> hi!
01:16 <noob13> Oo
01:16 <noob13> .tea
01:16 <tronner> noob13: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
01:17 <noob13> :/
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02:50 <smoothice> guru3: ping
02:50 <ct|kyle> darn I thought I scared smoothice away
02:51 <ct|kyle> btw smoothice i think it's like 2 AM for guru3
02:51 <ct|kyle> 4*
02:53 <smoothice> oh ok
02:53 <smoothice> EU?
02:53 <ct|kyle> ya
02:54 <smoothice> ct|kyle: ok I'll asl you then
02:54 <smoothice> ct|kyle: I'm making a forum and I don't know what forum system to uyse
02:55 <smoothice> ct|kyle: phpbb?
02:55 <ct|kyle> well armagetronad.net is going to go to phpbb3, ct is going to go to mybb.  both of us are using phpbb2 right now
02:56 <ct|kyle> but why are you going to asl(Atomic Space Lab)  me
02:57 <smoothice> ct|kyle: lol
02:57 <smoothice> ct|kyle: umm
02:57 <smoothice> ct|kyle: well
02:58 <smoothice> ct|kyle: MyBB?
02:58 <cpayan> awkward
02:58 <cpayan> nice save
02:59 <cpayan> smoothice, what's the forum about?
03:00 <smoothice> cpayan: personal
03:00 <cpayan> ah, all right
03:01 <smoothice> cpayan: personal forum for personal comm with friends and family
03:01 <cpayan> I figured it was something like that. Well, you can't go too far wrong with phpBB
03:04 <ct|kyle> I think mybb is a bit more secure
03:06 <smoothice> cpayan: yeah
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03:50 <SoBe> oi everyone :D
03:50 <ct|kyle> oi
03:50 <SoBe> kyle!  long time no talk yo
03:50 <SoBe> :)
03:50 <ct|kyle> ya
03:51 <SoBe> im kinda happy your on cuz i needed to ask a quick question.  i host this server for this one guy right, and he is ALWAYS wanted to change settings, and i want to make like a fast, easy control panel type deal where he can edit settings_custom.cfg and be done with it
03:52 <SoBe> is it easy to do something like this?  oO
03:53 <SoBe> i would just give him access to his server via SFTP if thats possible, but idk how to do that with this unix server i got
03:53 <ct|kyle> yes an no, I helped durka with it a bit but if the server does die it won't restart and I could not figure out a way to fix that
03:53 <SoBe> yeah, durka showed me his
03:53 <SoBe> its pretty nice
03:54 <SoBe> but i think if i could get a user to just use ftp to access his server only, that would be the way i would wanna do it
03:54 <SoBe> is this possible?
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03:54 <SoBe> yo zurd :D
03:55 <Zurd> hey sobe
03:55 <ct|kyle> SoBe: yes, but I'm not exactly sure of the wait to jailbreak accounts
03:55 <ct|kyle> way*
03:55 <SoBe> i can do this easily on my web host, but this linux server VPS thing is way different
03:57 <smoothice> ct|kyle: easy
03:57 <smoothice> ct|kyle: make a program in any language and make a loop
04:00 <ct|kyle> smoothice: tail -F cmds.txt to server write to it when file is changed, but tail -f does not allow server to restart if there are problems
04:00 <SoBe> smoothice, do you know how to add a user to your vps to be able to access one server via scp://
04:01 <smoothice> SoBe: no
04:03 <SoBe> http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl8_adduser.htm
04:03 <SoBe> would that help me?
04:03 <SoBe> i dont understand what the -d home_dir means or how to use it
04:03 <SoBe> but it seems like what i want
04:05 <ct|kyle> not exactly what you want
04:05 <SoBe> oh :/
04:08 <SoBe> http://fixunix.com/ssh/238284-non-interactive-sftp-put.html
04:08 <SoBe> would any of that help?
04:08 <SoBe> scp user@host:remotefile localfile that looked like it would do something
04:10 <ct|kyle> SoBe: http://www.itworld.com/nlsunix071108
04:10 <smoothice> SoBe: there is a way to make SCP-only users
04:11 <Zurd> smoothice our site is still down....
04:12 <Zurd> all of freeforums is down
04:14 <SoBe> smoothice:  Whats your method to this?  Is it harder than what ct|kyle found?  xD
04:14 <SoBe> ct|kyle, if there isnt an easier way, ill look more into that later
04:14 <smoothice> Zurd: crud...
04:14 <smoothice> SoBe: nevermind
04:16 <Zurd> i'll be so pissed if they dont get back up
04:17 <Zurd> they better give me some second level hosting or somthing..........
04:17 <luke-jr> why
04:17 <luke-jr> are you paying them?
04:17 <Zurd> yes
04:18 <luke-jr> O.o
04:18 <luke-jr> wtf is it called freeforums for then?
04:18 <SoBe> lol luke
04:18 <Zurd> we are buying no adds
04:18 <luke-jr> Zurd: why not just move it to your VPS? >_<
04:18 <Zurd> because i dont want to start over..
04:19 <SoBe> luke-jr how do you limit your users to their own server directory via SCP?
04:19 <luke-jr> didn't you say it was a $50 one time fee to transfer? O.o
04:19 <Zurd> or pay a 60$ transfer fee
04:19 <luke-jr> how much $/mo for no-ads?
04:19 <luke-jr> SoBe: I don't.
04:19 <Zurd> like 5$ or 6$
04:19 <luke-jr> SoBe: do I know you? O.o
04:19 <luke-jr> Zurd: that's $50 in 10 months
04:19 <Zurd> its outragious...
04:19 <SoBe> oO when i used your hosting, you gave me access via SCP to only my server
04:20 <luke-jr> so if you plan to have your fourms for over a year, cheaper to transfer
04:20 <luke-jr> SoBe: well, there's standard UNIX permissions of course
04:20 <Zurd> yeah...but if the forums never egt back up
04:20 <Zurd> or the host webist
04:20 <luke-jr> Zurd: that's another factor ☺
04:20 <Zurd> luke, why dont you host forums yet??
04:20 <luke-jr> $5/mo gives you no guarantees it won't just vanish
04:21 <luke-jr> Zurd: if you want managed forum hosting for your VPS, I'm sure I can come up with a price
04:21 <luke-jr> kinda assumed that was simple enough tho
04:21 <Zurd> i can manage my own forums.............
04:21 <luke-jr> that's what I thought XD
04:21 <Zurd> i meant subdomain forums
04:22 <luke-jr> uh, different how?
04:22 <Zurd> ads
04:22 <luke-jr> ads don't pay crap
04:22 <luke-jr> unless you run a big enough network to make your own private ad deals
04:23 <SoBe> luke-jr, your awesome :) so all i need to do is add a new user and then in the SCP in permissions when i right click select the group that can edit it?
04:23 <luke-jr> SoBe: English? O.o
04:23 <SoBe> oO
04:23 <SoBe> ok, so how exactly do you set up to where only i could have edited my own server files
04:23 <Zurd> luke-jr whats the command to change the user permissions on my vps?
04:24 <luke-jr> Zurd: read 'man chmod'
04:24 <luke-jr> SoBe: that's generally the default
04:24 <Zurd> not the commands, the file i put the comand in....the 6letter this that starts with a "v"
04:24 <SoBe> how?  oO do i need to create a new user IN that directory?
04:24 <luke-jr> you can't create users in directories
04:24 <luke-jr> users aren't files
04:25 <Zurd> damnit,
04:25 <luke-jr> Zurd: you mean admin access
04:25 <luke-jr> Zurd: visudo
04:25 <Zurd> yes
04:25 <Zurd> THANK YOU
04:25 <luke-jr> Zurd: be careful, it is easy to elevate once admin
04:25 <luke-jr> Zurd: generally, don't put anyone in there unless you trust them 100%
04:26 <Zurd> k, thank you
04:27 <SoBe> hehe luke i am almost there!
04:27 <luke-jr> SoBe: why don't you just get a server from me again? ☺
04:27 <SoBe> i logged in, BUT when i login it just goes to that directory
04:27 <SoBe> and the server info aint there
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04:27 <SoBe> yours is too expensive... i have a $10 VPS
04:28 <SoBe> blame it on the economy not me
04:28 <luke-jr> SoBe: pfft, too expensive?
04:28 <luke-jr> $1/slot/mo?
04:28 <SoBe> yeah, but i can set up however many servers i want with unlimited slots
04:28 <luke-jr> and where were you when I had a special with $7/mo VPS?
04:28 <SoBe> idk Oo
04:28 <luke-jr> you mean as much as your VPS supports
04:29 <luke-jr> there *is* always a limit
04:29 <smoothice> no
04:29 <ct|kyle> yes
04:30 <SoBe> luke, where is your vps located?
04:30 <SoBe> what DC?
04:31 <SoBe> anywho, im not here to get bribed into paying more money for this free game -.- i just want to learn how to set up a way were users can access their server via SCP and can only edit their folder, and nothing else
04:32 <luke-jr> SoBe: Connecticut and Georgia
04:32 <smoothice> luke-jr: where in CT
04:32 <luke-jr> smoothice: Greenwich I think? not exactly sure on that :p
04:34 <smoothice> luke-jr: can I have a CT IP to test ping?
04:35 <luke-jr>
04:36 <smoothice> luke-jr: k thanks
04:37 <luke-jr> how's the ping from you?
04:37 <smoothice> I have a friend in Greenwich
04:37 <smoothice> on cable
04:37 <ct|kyle> what's the Georgia one
04:37 <smoothice> got about 20-30
04:37 <smoothice>
04:37 <smoothice> GA
04:38 <ct|kyle> woa
04:38 <luke-jr> ?
04:38 <smoothice> ?
04:38 <ct|kyle> 64 bytes from icmp_seq=2 ttl=53 time=69.6 ms
04:38 <ct|kyle> 64 bytes from icmp_seq=3 ttl=53 time=206 ms
04:38 <ct|kyle> 64 bytes from icmp_seq=4 ttl=53 time=319 ms
04:38 <luke-jr> wtf?
04:38 <luke-jr> mtr it
04:38 <ct|kyle> it is all over the place
04:38 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: mtr
04:39 <ct|kyle> what is mtr
04:39 <luke-jr> I'm getting a consistent 51
04:39 <luke-jr> mtr = ping + traceroute
04:39 <luke-jr> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 49.402/52.932/57.878/1.616 ms
04:41 <ct|kyle> must be something with *.sprintlink.net
04:42 <luke-jr> that where it starts?
04:42 <ct|kyle> there are about 5 of them it goes through and any one of them has a high ping
04:42 <luke-jr> hrm
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04:43 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: ya my ISP is definitely going crazy
04:44 <smoothice> verizon dsl
04:44 <smoothice> ownd
04:44 <ct|kyle> ya LOL
04:44 <ct|kyle> the CT server seams better though
04:45 <ct|kyle> except on a few occasions it was going up to 200,  but right around 57 the rest of the time
04:46 <ct|kyle> mt ping is all over the place on CT's server
04:46 <ct|kyle> my*
04:46 <ct|kyle> 154 - 379
04:47  * ct|kyle forgot p2p running LOL
04:50 <smoothice> ...
04:50 <smoothice> torrents?
04:50 <luke-jr> LOL
04:50 <smoothice> ?
04:51 <ct|kyle> ya, stopping them made it a constant
04:51 <ct|kyle> 70 for GA and 59 for CT
04:55 <smoothice> ct|kyle: sofa king cool
04:55 <smoothice> LOL
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05:15 <Zurd> hey luke, can you link me to your demo page please
05:15 <luke-jr> …
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05:22 <Pathetique> Would one of the devs field this question?: Why are we against the idea of having a centralized clan system?
05:23 <luke-jr> meaning?
05:23 <Pathetique> So we have one main database that people have to register at if they want to be in a clan and have tags in front of their name.
05:23 <Pathetique> Probably using GID.
05:24 <Pathetique> They'd authenticate at the server in order to have their full name displayed.
05:24 <Pathetique> I think it would save a lot of drama and fighting in servers. :|
05:24 <Pathetique> I was told by someone that when they suggested it in the past they were shotdown.
05:25 <luke-jr> that doesn't even make sense
05:25 <Pathetique> What part?
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05:25 <luke-jr> for a start, "tags" in a name are stupid
05:25 <luke-jr> it's a name, not an ad
05:26 <Pathetique> When I have .dBd| in my name, its not advertising.
05:26 <luke-jr> it's still stupid
05:26 <Pathetique> I know a lot of clans exist just for the sake of having lots of people.
05:26 <Pathetique> I'm talking like clans like .dBd| and Crazy Tronners and x
05:26 <Pathetique> That would really benefit from this.
05:26 <luke-jr> there's nothing to do
05:26 <luke-jr> names aren't supposed to have tags
05:26 <luke-jr> simple as that
05:27 <Pathetique> No need to be stubborn. :\
05:27 <Pathetique> Open your mind. :)
05:27 <luke-jr> also, global ID was itself a compromise by some devs
05:27 <luke-jr> since they hold an ideal of nothing central
05:27 <Pathetique> To appease the masses?
05:28 <Pathetique> Ah, so they're kind of like libertarians. LOL
05:28 <luke-jr> AFAIK, a "centralized clan system" would be all-in-one clan hosting services
05:29 <luke-jr> erm, libertarian is pretty much the entire point of Free software
05:29 <Pathetique> lawl
05:29 <Pathetique> Not really...it wouldn't be hard to integrate the authentication already in existence with a clan system on the main forums.
05:29 <Pathetique> A wonderful game called DarkSpace is a prime example.
05:30 <Pathetique> Only alphanumeric characters are allowed in names
05:30 <luke-jr> authentication and clans are unrelated, kthx
05:30 <dlh> A clan system?
05:31 <Pathetique> Authentication *is* related to clans, luke.  I have yet to see a single random player set up their own auth server just for shits and giggles.
05:31 <dlh> Start a reserved-name list: one name tied to an authenticated name. Get clan-run servers to opt-in and subscribe to the list.
05:31  * dlh did
05:31 <luke-jr> Pathetique: then perhaps that is a flaw
05:31 <luke-jr> also, you forget me
05:31 <luke-jr> I authenticate as luke@dashjr.org
05:31 <dlh> #ls -g dlh@generalconsumption.org
05:31 <luke-jr> crap, now my unmarked email is on IRC logs :/
05:31 <dlh> oh, armabot
05:32 <Pathetique> rofl
05:32 <ct|kyle> .cfg2 RESERVE_SCREEN_NAME
05:32 <tronner> ct|kyle: RESERVE_SCREEN_NAME: Reserves a screen name to a registered user
05:32 <luke-jr> Pathetique: the entire purpose of global ID is to uniquely identify a person
05:32 <Pathetique> Indeed.
05:32 <ct|kyle> RESERVE_SCREEN_NAME ct_ky13 kyle@ct
05:32 <luke-jr> it should not depend on that person being a member of some organization
05:32 <luke-jr> it should not change when they join a clan
05:32 <luke-jr> or leave or get kicked
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05:32 <Pathetique> But what about a *group* of people, ct|kyle and luke-jr.
05:33 <Pathetique> There's no way to do that, is there?
05:33 <luke-jr> did you actually read what I said?
05:33 <Pathetique> Yes.  I raise a related but separate point.
05:34 <dlh> An auth server can relate to a group of people.
05:34 <dlh> Run your own auth server for clan members.
05:34 <Pathetique> I'm talking about people identifying themselves with a group of people when they aren't a member of said server.
05:34 <Pathetique> said group*
05:34 <Pathetique> dlh: That solves nothing, as it still allows people to "impersonate," for lack of a better word, membership in my clan.
05:35 <luke-jr> no it doesn't
05:35 <dlh> Read what I first said about a reserved name list
05:35 <Pathetique> Which is where a centralized server comes in great handy.
05:35 <dlh> There will never be a central clan list we provide
05:35 <Pathetique> Of course.
05:35 <luke-jr> Pathetique: I think what it comes down to next is
05:35 <Pathetique> But if someone else provided it, would someone here at least be willing to code it?
05:35 <dlh> BUT, you can start your own!
05:35 <luke-jr> if someone fakes membership in your clan
05:35 <luke-jr> nobody cares
05:35 <luke-jr> it's meaningless anyhow
05:35 <luke-jr> :p
05:35  * Pathetique cares -.-
05:36 <luke-jr> Pathetique: feel free to write the next gen high-security auth system
05:36 <luke-jr> Pathetique: I believe the plans are on the wiki.
05:36 <luke-jr> you could probably extend it to understand clans easily
05:37 <luke-jr> eg, just have a clan key that signs member keys every month
05:37 <Pathetique> Like SSH, right?
05:37 <luke-jr> of course, you STILL won't be able to censor nicknames for tags that shouldn't exist
05:37 <luke-jr> but that's not a real problem ☺
05:37 <Pathetique> That would be the point.
05:38 <luke-jr> problems that aren't problems can't be fixed ☺
05:38 <Pathetique> So what if they're issues that lots of people who actually *play* tron have?
05:38 <Pathetique> :\
05:38 <luke-jr> they're not
05:38 <luke-jr> the problem is people putting clan tags in names
05:38 <luke-jr> they shouldn't do that.
05:39 <Pathetique> That would be the issue that we're having.
05:39 <luke-jr> maybe a fix would be to identify multiple people with common prefix or suffix as the same person
05:39 <Pathetique> People who do that despite being warned.
05:39 <luke-jr> and if two people try to login with names starting the same, only allow the first
05:39 <luke-jr> since they're obviously the same person
05:40 <luke-jr> so ".dBd|foo" and ".dBd|bar" would be identified as the same, and only one allowed to connect
05:40 <luke-jr> ☺
05:40 <luke-jr> kinda like the new antispam ☺
05:40 <Pathetique> Which would be pointless.
05:41 <ct|kyle> btw I faked .dBd|
05:41 <ct|kyle> :P
05:41 <Pathetique> :\
05:41 <Pathetique> :/
05:41 <luke-jr> Pathetique: not at all
05:41 <ct|kyle> it would crash my script on ctwf so I had to test it to see if I fixed it
05:41 <luke-jr> it would mean NOBODY could abuse "nickname" with tags
05:41 <Pathetique> oic, luke.
05:42 <Pathetique> Thank you for clarifying.
05:42 <dlh> It would be difficult to not catch legitimate names with that…
05:42 <Pathetique> Unless you restricted nicknames to alphanumeric characters only.
05:43 <dlh> Sounds like a lot of work for something that is best handled by good server moderators :)
05:43 <Pathetique> ...
05:43 <Pathetique> That's assuming that there are mods on all the time.
05:43 <dlh> How about we just assign all players a number, and do away with names?
05:44 <luke-jr> YES
05:44 <Pathetique> Here's an idea.
05:44 <Pathetique> An old favorite of mine, DarkSpace, developed by Palestar, also developed a chatroom backend that I got this idea from.
05:44 <Pathetique> They called it GameCQ.
05:45 <Pathetique> Its the base for their clan system.
05:45 <Pathetique> They've released an SDK for your perusal if you're interested.
05:45 <Pathetique> http://www.palestar.com
05:46 <luke-jr> not
05:46 <Zurd> luke-jr: ping are spiking high on arma servers..
05:47 <Zurd> from our vps
05:47 <luke-jr> Zurd: still?
05:47 <Zurd> just started
05:48 <Zurd> havent gone down
05:48 <luke-jr> hum
05:48 <luke-jr> well, I don't know wtf you're doing but
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05:48 <luke-jr> one of your servers was spinning
05:48 <Zurd> ??
05:48 <Zurd> idk wtf im doing either...
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05:50 <luke-jr> you're supposed to, for an unmanaged VPS
05:50 <Zurd> ....
05:50 <Zurd> this is pissing me off...
05:51 <Pathetique> LOL
05:51 <Pathetique> Zurd: Readthefuckingmanual before possibly fuxx0ring a server.
05:51 <luke-jr> Pathetique: *I* think the manual is fun
05:51 <Pathetique> Me too.
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05:51 <luke-jr> I wasn't aware they were capable of f⁂ing
05:51 <Pathetique> LOL
05:52 <Pathetique> how to obtain triple asterisk?
05:52 <luke-jr> I type * thrice
05:52 <Zurd> you wanna give me the fucking manual then...
05:52 <Pathetique> oic.
05:52 <Pathetique> Zurd, there is no palpable manual.
05:52 <Zurd> gee thanks..
05:52 <luke-jr> XD
05:52 <Pathetique> Its more like, understanding what does what.
05:52 <Pathetique> Its kind of like don't use words you don't know the meaning for...
05:53 <Pathetique> If you don't know what a command does, don't use it until you find out from someone who does.
05:53 <Zurd> great and when i ask for help i need to pay...
05:53 <luke-jr> Zurd: by "spinning" I mean it was sitting there eating 100% CPU for a few seconds at least
05:53 <Zurd> off of what?
05:53 <luke-jr> that doesn't happen normally
05:53 <luke-jr> ⁇⁇
05:53 <Pathetique> lolol
05:53 <Zurd> i havent done anything for it to do so
05:53 <luke-jr> Zurd: could be a sty bug
05:53 <Pathetique> spinning its wheels
05:53 <luke-jr> or a CT bug, but CT code *seems* to be more sane
05:54 <luke-jr> it did stop, shortly after I logged in
05:54 <Zurd> what you suggest, a server restart?
05:54 <luke-jr> I'd be surprised if it was still being a problem now
05:54 <Pathetique> btw, did anyone manage to compile my branch? :S
05:54 <luke-jr> Zurd: could try it
05:54 <luke-jr> Zurd: by default, the servers setup by the control panel restart daily
05:54 <Pathetique> oh
05:54 <luke-jr> Pathetique: not sure anyone tried
05:55 <Pathetique> I tried on the account gene gave me for his VPS
05:55 <Pathetique> But ./configure seems to think it be best I do it outside of /usr/local/
05:55 <luke-jr> Zurd: [23:54:18] <luke-jr> it did stop, shortly after I logged in
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05:56 <Pathetique> and I was too lazy to cp it to another folder
05:56 <Pathetique> lol
05:56 <luke-jr> Zurd: if you do /admin quit it will restart automatically
05:56 <Zurd> yeah
05:57 <Zurd> i was giving heads up to those in it
05:58 <luke-jr> Zurd:
05:58 <luke-jr> [0] MAX_CLIENTS changed from 16 to 12.
05:58 <luke-jr> [0] MAX_CLIENTS changed from 12 to 16.
05:58 <luke-jr> why do you do that every round? XD
05:58 <Pathetique> lol
05:58 <Pathetique> I have shit like that in some of my configs.
05:59 <Zurd> idk, i need to clean up the config
05:59 <Pathetique> What's the difference between --enable-armathentication and --enable-authentication?
06:00 <luke-jr> spelling
06:00 <Pathetique> ic.
06:01 <Pathetique> after I bootstrap, for some reason ./configure --help gets fuxx0red.
06:01 <Zurd> luke, your mean
06:01 <luke-jr> :D
06:01 <luke-jr> only echoing
06:01 <luke-jr> ☺
06:01 <Zurd> why you haxoring my server?
06:02 <luke-jr> pfft, not haxoring
06:02 <Zurd> what is ☺?
06:02 <luke-jr> you implicitly gave me permission by asking for help :p
06:02 <Pathetique> LOL
06:02 <luke-jr> Zurd: what does it look like? -.-
06:02 <Zurd> but why do you know the passwords i never gave you o.O
06:02 <luke-jr> I don't.
06:02 <luke-jr> I just didn't need them. :p
06:02 <Pathetique> He is ultimate root.
06:02 <Zurd> i looks like a rock or a crapy circle
06:03 <Pathetique> WTF
06:03 <luke-jr> I vote crapy circle
06:03 <luke-jr> Zurd looks like a crapy circle.
06:04 <Zurd> what is it then?
06:04 <Zurd> ☺
06:04 <Zurd> ☺
06:04 <Zurd> ☺
06:04 <Zurd> ☺
06:04 <Zurd> ☺
06:04 <Zurd> ☺
06:04 <Zurd> ☺
06:04 <Zurd> ☺
06:04 <Zurd> ☺
06:04 <Pathetique> WTF
06:04 <Zurd> ☺
06:04 <Pathetique> STOP SPAMMING
06:04 <luke-jr> if your IRC client is configured properly, it's a smiley
06:04 <Pathetique> ***
06:04 <Pathetique> f***cking.
06:04 <Pathetique> grr.
06:04 <luke-jr> ⁂
06:04 <Pathetique> You're gay.
06:04 <luke-jr> ⁑
06:05 <luke-jr> ⚃
06:05 <Pathetique> ⁂ is a special character.
06:05 <Pathetique> :P
06:05 <luke-jr> ♡
06:05 <Pathetique> &lozn;
06:05 <luke-jr> ♬
06:05 <Pathetique> wtf
06:05 <Zurd> you kicking my players o.O
06:05 <Pathetique> I don't remember the symbol for a diamond.
06:05 <Pathetique> LOL
06:05 <luke-jr> Zurd: nope
06:05 <luke-jr> Zurd: I logged out like 5 min ago
06:05 <Zurd> they all left...DAMN YOU!
06:05 <luke-jr> O.o
06:05 <luke-jr> they take you too seriously!
06:06 <luke-jr> all I did was paste
06:06 <Zurd> lol
06:06 <luke-jr> [23:48:50] <Zurd> idk wtf im doing either…
06:06 <Zurd> stoooooooooooooooop!
06:06 <luke-jr> guess they took it a little hard
06:06 <Zurd> >.<
06:06 <luke-jr> Pathetique: is it mean to paste that in Zurd's server?
06:06 <luke-jr> XD
06:06 <Zurd> i'm suposed to know what im doing 24/7 or else no one takes me serious
06:06 <Pathetique> LOL
06:06 <luke-jr> >_<
06:07 <Zurd> >.<
06:07 <Zurd> >-<
06:07 <luke-jr> yay chocolate milk!
06:07 <Zurd> mmm
06:07 <Pathetique> FFS>
06:07 <luke-jr> Final Fantasy Seven?
06:07 <Pathetique> Why must ./configure be so frustrating?
06:08 <luke-jr> you probably screwed up bootstrap
06:08 <Pathetique> how does one do that?
06:08 <Pathetique> -.-
06:08 <Pathetique> all I did was ./boostrap.sh
06:08 <Pathetique> grrr
06:08 <Pathetique> all I did was ./bootstrap.sh
06:08 <Zurd> yep you fked it up...
06:08 <Zurd> now luke has to fix it
06:08 <luke-jr> Zurd: nah, Pathetique isn't even my customer
06:08 <Pathetique> and passing --help is no help.
06:08 <Zurd> god path! your such a nub!
06:09 <luke-jr> XD
06:09 <luke-jr> Zurd: at least Pathetique's problem is non-obvious?
06:09 <Zurd> >.>
06:09 <Pathetique> pwn.
06:09 <Zurd> quite you
06:09 <luke-jr> quiet*
06:09 <Pathetique> quiet*
06:09 <Pathetique> lol
06:09 <Zurd> STFU!
06:09 <luke-jr> Zurd: btw, did they really all leave?
06:09 <Pathetique> pathetique@theserverpharm:/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct$ FUCKYOURMOTHER
06:10 <Pathetique> -bash: FUCKYOURMOTHER: command not found
06:10 <Zurd> yes they did :(
06:10 <luke-jr> Pathetique: next time that will be aliased to rm -rf /
06:10 <luke-jr> Zurd: wtf, idiots
06:10 <Pathetique> LOL
06:10 <luke-jr> they take life way too seriously
06:10 <Zurd> i feel hurt
06:10 <Pathetique> That would be mean.
06:10 <Zurd> luke...you hurt...me :(
06:10 <Pathetique> so that's what alias does? You can make shortcuts with it, eh?
06:10 <luke-jr> …………
06:10 <luke-jr> omfg path, are you that dense?
06:11 <Zurd> pwn
06:11 <luke-jr> alias is a fscking common English word
06:11 <Pathetique> I had a feeling it was that.
06:11 <Pathetique> BUT
06:11 <luke-jr> no but
06:11 <Pathetique> I've learned
06:11 <Pathetique> not to poke my head into stuff
06:11 <luke-jr> liar
06:11 <Pathetique> that doesn't need messing with.
06:11 <Pathetique> I mean, yeah, that was a dumb statement.
06:11 <luke-jr> very
06:11 <Zurd> path...you lie like a cheap rug
06:12 <Pathetique> Even Mac OS X calls shortcuts "aliases"
06:12 <luke-jr> …
06:13 <Pathetique> So.
06:13 <Pathetique> src/Makefile.am:30: wildcard $(top_srcdir: non-POSIX variable name
06:13 <Pathetique> src/Makefile.am:30: (probably a GNU make extension)
06:13 <Pathetique> wtf is that shit?
06:13 <Pathetique> LOL
06:13 <luke-jr> Pathetique: RTFM
06:14 <Pathetique> how to obtain manual for ./bootstrap.sh?
06:14 <Zurd> why can i not find any fvcking debian 4.0 commands!?!
06:14 <luke-jr> pretty sure you'd understand 1% of it if you read the POSIX manual
06:14 <Pathetique> lolololol
06:14 <luke-jr> probably about 60% more if you read the GNU make manual
06:14 <Pathetique> man -k make?
06:14 <Pathetique> rofl
06:15  * luke-jr wonders wtf -k is
06:15 <Pathetique> idk
06:15 <Pathetique> It's not failed me before
06:15 <Zurd> -bash: -k: command not found
06:15 <luke-jr> fail
06:15 <Pathetique> oic
06:15 <Pathetique> silly ubuntu
06:15 <Pathetique> LOL
06:16 <luke-jr> Pathetique: man -k is infinitely less useful than normal man
06:16 <Pathetique> ...
06:16 <Pathetique> man doesn't like me.
06:16 <luke-jr> do women?
06:16 <Zurd> "Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/simfs            16777216    769628  15382628   5% / tmpfs                  1551780         0   1551780   0% /lib/init/rw tmpfs                  1551780         0   1551780   0% /dev/shm"
06:17 <Pathetique> men are much simpler than women.
06:17 <Zurd> agreed
06:17 <luke-jr> Zurd: try df -h
06:17 <Pathetique> ...
06:17 <Zurd> all we do is lift the seat...
06:17 <Pathetique> man won't let me exit.
06:18 <luke-jr> Pathetique: you pressed q?
06:18 <Pathetique> ...
06:18 <luke-jr> you know, for QUIT
06:18 <Zurd> same result luke
06:18 <Pathetique> Why can't they make it ctrl+x like the rest?
06:18 <luke-jr> Zurd: liar
06:18 <Pathetique> ><
06:18 <luke-jr> Pathetique: "rest" being one program?
06:18 <Zurd> " nightwalkers:~# df Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/simfs            16777216    769628  15382628   5% / tmpfs                  1551780         0   1551780   0% /lib/init/rw tmpfs                  1551780         0   1551780   0% /dev/shm nightwalkers:~# nightwalkers:~# df -h Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use%
06:18 <Pathetique> no
06:18 <Pathetique> well
06:18 <Pathetique> make it like nano
06:18 <Pathetique> LOL
06:18 <luke-jr> Zurd: liat
06:19 <luke-jr> Zurd: liar
06:19 <Zurd> its just simplified...
06:19 <luke-jr> Zurd: liar
06:19 <luke-jr> df -h
06:19 <luke-jr> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
06:19 <Zurd> "Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/simfs             16G  752M   15G   5% / tmpfs                 1.5G     0  1.5G   0% /lib/init/rw tmpfs                 1.5G     0  1.5G   0% /dev/shm"
06:19 <luke-jr> /dev/simfs             16G  752M   15G   5% /
06:19 <Zurd> same as "df"
06:20 <luke-jr> nope
06:20 <luke-jr> 'df' by itself is not readable ☺
06:20 <Zurd> just simplified numbers.........
06:20 <Zurd> ??
06:20 <Zurd> yes it is?
06:20 <Zurd> are you nub?
06:20 <Pathetique> luke-jr: I thought the order was ./bootstrap.sh, then ./configure, THEN make?
06:20 <luke-jr> Pathetique: indeed it is
06:20 <Pathetique> ...
06:21 <Pathetique> That's waht I did.
06:21 <Pathetique> But I guess ./configure was all set.
06:21 <Zurd> "nightwalkers:~# df -i Filesystem            Inodes   IUsed   IFree IUse% Mounted on /dev/simfs           1906501   40268 1866233    3% / tmpfs                 218850       2  218848    1% /lib/init/rw tmpfs                 218850       1  218849    1% /dev/shm"
06:22 <Zurd> that one is differnt
06:22 <Pathetique> yay for declarations <.<
06:26 <Zurd> idk why, when ever i make a directory, i can never access it
06:26 <Pathetique> setting permissions ftw
06:27 <Pathetique> or using sudo for each command if you don't know how to set permissions from command line
06:27 <Zurd> luke-jr where is the webpage of my vps founs, in the directory?
06:27 <luke-jr> wtf?
06:28 <Pathetique> its in /var/www/ or some such.
06:28 <Zurd> ty sir
06:28 <Pathetique> How many lines of code are there in the normal tron branch?
06:28 <Zurd> now to use dreamweaver
06:28 <Zurd> joy
06:29 <Zurd> pathetique: 325
06:29 <luke-jr> Pathetique: find -name '*.cpp' -or -name '*.h' -exec cat '{}' \; | wc -l
06:29 <Pathetique> chyeah
06:29 <Pathetique> oh my.
06:29 <luke-jr> Pathetique: how many?
06:29 <Pathetique> idk
06:29 <luke-jr> …
06:29 <Pathetique> h/o
06:30 <Pathetique> interpreting why make fuxx0red.
06:31 <Pathetique> 20347?
06:31 <Pathetique> That's it?
06:31 <luke-jr> Pathetique: you want to rewrite 20,000 LOC?
06:32 <Pathetique> LOL
06:32 <Pathetique> nty
06:32 <Pathetique> Perhaps we could eventually head towards my idea from earlier?
06:32 <Pathetique> Doesn't have to be immediate.
06:32 <Pathetique> :P
06:32 <luke-jr> you mean your idea that conflicts with reality?
06:33 <Pathetique> no, I just mean it conflicts with reality in the very short term.
06:33 <luke-jr> sigh
06:34 <Pathetique> C++ is gay.
06:34 <Pathetique> My brain is burnt otu.
06:34 <Pathetique> Have a good night ya'll.
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06:34 <luke-jr> quite frankly I'm more interested in ramps and cubes than stupid clans
06:34 <luke-jr> ☺
06:38 <Zurd> luke-jr, why cant i access my server via FTP?!
06:39 <Zurd> :o luke-jr
06:39 <Zurd> :o like a ninja :O
06:40 <Zurd> umm...WTF?
06:41 <Zurd> i now have all permissions denied..
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13:46 <Lucifer> luke-jr: actually, what pathetique wants is probably quite doable, and somewhat reasonable :)
13:46 <Lucifer> but can't happen in 0.2.8
13:47 <Lucifer> we'd need for the server to add the clan tag, call it "group tag" to the name
13:47 <Lucifer> auth servers could tell the server what their group tag is, if they have one
13:47 <Lucifer> then clans would setup their own auth servers that would give up their group tag
13:47 <Lucifer> servers could be configured to display the group tag according to the admin's preferences
13:48 <Lucifer> that last would allow the prevention of exploits where people add the tag to their screen name to make it look like the server added it
13:48 <Lucifer> or we could just give the client a special graphic with which to separate the rendering
13:48 <Lucifer> the question is, are groups useful other than being used as a euphemism for clans?
13:49 <Lucifer> of course, to balance the effort, server admins should be able to ban entire groups, but they can already do that by just disallowing specific auth servers
13:50 <Lucifer> clans that object to such a decentralized system can just go screw themselves, as far as I'm concerned
13:50 <Lucifer> I *know* that many servers won't setup to accept auth, and then clanners that play on thsoe servers won't get their clan tags, and that's just the cost of doing business in a clan, imo
13:51 <Lucifer> maybe instead of having the server provide the clan tag, just have it transmit to the client in the user info structure (whatever it is)
13:51 <Lucifer> then the player can configure his client to render the tag however he wishes
13:51 <Lucifer> hell, if we take it that far, we could give groups an icon to use as well, making forging group membership even more difficult
13:52 <Lucifer> also allow icons for players, and the problem is solved
13:52 <Lucifer> :)
13:52 <Lucifer> obviously not something that can be done in 0.2.8
13:52 <Lucifer> (or maybe it can be done in 0.2.8, but not for
13:58 <zmanuel> Bah. That VPS of mine only allows 16 screen sessions.
13:59 <Lucifer> nobody should need more than 16 screen sessions
13:59 <Lucifer> hmmm, does it fit in 640k of ram?
13:59 <zmanuel> I'm running each server in a screen session.
13:59 <zmanuel> And I'm runnind AA, DedCon and Dedwinia servers.
14:00 <zmanuel> Time to rethink my approach, I guess.
14:00 <Lucifer> I have a little python program I was working on to run more than one arma server
14:01 <Lucifer> hmmm, to be honest, what I really want is a service manager
14:01 <Lucifer> that's something windows has that I think linux could use
14:01 <Lucifer> there are some available, but for some reason I didn't like them, I don't remember why
14:01  * Lucifer googles
14:02 <Lucifer> hmmm, now I'm not finding anything
14:02 <Lucifer> can't be that hard to write a basic one
14:03 <Lucifer> read a config file that describes what services to run, do the double fork to start each one
14:03 <Lucifer> connect pipes to stdin/stdout (as needed)
14:03  * Lucifer considers writing one again
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15:01 <Vanhayes> @g (447-63)*2
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15:02 <Vanhayes> ...
15:02 <Vanhayes> @calc (447-63)*2
15:02 <teabot> Vanhayes: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
15:02 <Vanhayes> boo
15:04 <MrBougo> @calc 1+1
15:04 <teabot> MrBougo: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
15:04 <MrBougo> @g vanhayes
15:04 <teabot> MrBougo: http://www.facebook.com/people/Van-Hayes/523448291 - Van Hayes | Facebook
15:04 <Vanhayes> boo again
15:04 <MrBougo> :p
15:05 <Vanhayes> @g MrBougo
15:05 <teabot> Vanhayes: http://irc.dokuwiki.org/index.php?d=2008-10-28 - DokuWiki IRC channel log
15:05 <MrBougo> eh
15:05 <MrBougo> I got logged!
15:06 <MrBougo> http://www.mrbongo.com
15:06 <MrBougo> :<
15:08 <Vanhayes> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/playerstats2.htm  <-- wow aka=] played for 178202:07 hours in 2 months
15:09 <MrBougo> lol
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15:09 <Vanhayes> thats not even possible
15:09 <MrBougo> 12419.1% of the time
15:09 <MrBougo> hahaha
15:09 <MrBougo> "wow" ?
15:09 <MrBougo> why wow
15:09 <smoothice> ?
15:09 <MrBougo> I see nothign
15:09 <smoothice> yo folks
15:09 <MrBougo> it's "aka =]"
15:10 <MrBougo> also, people are playing 15% of their time?
15:10 <MrBougo> wtf people.
15:10 <Vanhayes> ha, for some reason i was reading it as an actual name
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15:11 <MrBougo> oh
15:12 <Vanhayes> player 1 is understandable seeing as alot of people use that name
15:13 <Vanhayes> -=}ID< Arilou plays for about 6 hours a day though...
15:13 <Vanhayes> thats like work
15:16 <MrBougo> :o
15:16 <smoothice> .ubuntu
15:16 <tronner> sudo apt-get install build-essential automake subversion libboost-dev libxml2-dev libsdl-image1.2-dev libsdl-mixer1.2-dev ftgl-dev libglew-dev bison pkg-config
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15:29 <smoothice> hi cpayan
15:42 <cpayan> hey smoothice
15:43 <cpayan> what's shakin
15:44 <smoothice> cpayan: gotta go
15:44 <smoothice> cpayan: that's what's shaking
15:44 <smoothice> cpayan: lol
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16:36 <luke-jr> Lucifer: alternate authorities could spoof clans easily
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18:09 <nsh22> hello
18:10 <luke-jr> o hai thar
18:10 <luke-jr> how r u
18:10 <nsh22> gud, u?
18:10 <luke-jr> dunno
18:10 <nsh22> lol
18:11 <nsh22> anything new in the lands of development?
18:12 <luke-jr> well, I just fixed a bug in
18:12 <luke-jr> I think it's been a bug since :o
18:12 <nsh22> :P which one?
18:12 <luke-jr> or earlier
18:12 <luke-jr> the included maps are all incomplete
18:12 <nsh22> o0
18:12 <luke-jr> they all refer to "map.dtd"
18:12 <luke-jr> which is strictly for development stuff, like bootstrap
18:13 <luke-jr> not supposed to exist in the real world
18:13 <nsh22> shouldt they all refer to aa-team. sumthingorother.dtd?
18:15 <luke-jr> AATeam/map-VERSION.dtd
18:15 <luke-jr> or for old maps, simply map-VERSION.dtd
18:15 <luke-jr> old maps being pre-
18:15 <nsh22> yeah, thats the 1 (the 1st one)
18:15 <luke-jr> kinda funny
18:15 <luke-jr> map format 0.1-exp had a lot of experimental features that got discarded
18:16 <luke-jr> like SavePos/RestorePos
18:16 <nsh22> any that are useful?
18:16 <luke-jr> SavePos/RestorePos was very useful for HexaTRON maps
18:16 <luke-jr> it allowed star-type walls
18:16 <nsh22> ah
18:16 <Concord> hmm?
18:17 <luke-jr> with the current format, you can only go point A->B->C->D
18:17 <nsh22> what is the best way to make a map? is there any good programs? (i use armabel)
18:17 <luke-jr> *Pos allowed you to do A->B->C, B->D, B->E
18:17 <Concord> cool
18:17 <luke-jr> nsh22: text editor
18:17 <nsh22> :( what about a program to get the wall coordinates?
18:17 <Concord> or something that colors the syntax for you
18:17 <luke-jr> you could try updating griddraw too
18:18 <Concord> xml editor
18:18 <nsh22> griddraw?
18:18 <luke-jr> lately my maps have mostly been conceptualized in KolourPaint
18:18 <luke-jr> nsh22: griddraw is a C API for making maps
18:18 <luke-jr> so you write your maps in C
18:18 <luke-jr> and compile them into XML
18:18 <nsh22> o0
18:18 <luke-jr> it also supports compiling to C++ for 0.2.7 mods :p
18:18 <luke-jr> but griddraw is version 0.1 I think
18:18 <nsh22> why would you use c, when you can just put the entire thing into an xml?
18:19 <luke-jr> maps version 0.1 that is
18:19 <luke-jr> nsh22: well, the API is different a bit
18:19 <luke-jr> for example, you say "position me at X,Y"
18:19 <luke-jr> then
18:19 <luke-jr> "turn to 90 degrees"
18:19 <luke-jr> "go forward by 5"
18:19 <nsh22> i use armabell and it works qute well, i just cjhne soem stuf in the first few lines and poof, im done
18:19 <luke-jr> "turn 45 degrees"
18:19 <luke-jr> "go forward 5 more"
18:19 <nsh22> change some stuff*
18:20 <luke-jr> maybe we should add support for that in the XML
18:20 <epsy> nah
18:20 <luke-jr> but it wouldn't be possible to make it backward compat
18:20 <nsh22> so, it would force you to move?
18:20 <luke-jr> …
18:20 <luke-jr> nsh22: no, you'd draw walls like you were a cycle :p
18:20 <epsy> that's the job the the map editor to propose something like this
18:20 <nsh22> OHHH!, thats a great idea
18:20 <luke-jr> epsy: no good map editor exists
18:20 <nsh22> he meant the person...
18:20 <nsh22> i think
18:20 <epsy> luke-jr, yeah, but let's keep the map format simple
18:21 <luke-jr> epsy: the method griddraw uses is simpler than point arrays, for humans
18:21 <luke-jr> especially if you add complex things like for loops ;)
18:21 <nsh22> epsy: i think it would be simpler if we did what luke-jr suggests
18:21 <luke-jr> that in mind, updating griddraw might be best
18:21 <luke-jr> then you keep compat
18:21 <luke-jr> and don't need to support these advanced things in the parser
18:22 <epsy> it gets way complexier to read simplier structures
18:22 <nsh22> @g griddraw
18:22 <teabot> nsh22: http://www.computergeek.co.nz/grid_draw.htm - Speedway New Zealand Championship Grid Draw Software Download
18:22 <luke-jr> maybe port griddraw to Python
18:22 <luke-jr> @g griddraw armagetron
18:22 <nsh22> i sthat it?
18:22 <teabot> luke-jr: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=2196 - Armagetron Forums :: View topic - Auto-generating maps
18:22 <nsh22> ah
18:22 <epsy> and having both is just not an option
18:22 <nsh22> ty
18:22 <luke-jr> epsy: eh, of course it is?
18:22 <epsy> no
18:23 <luke-jr> nsh22: that thread isn't actually about griddraw XD
18:23 <epsy> there's one thing: make walls, and there's one way of doing it
18:23 <epsy> not 15416
18:23 <nsh22> ffs
18:23 <nsh22> where can i get griddraw?
18:23 <MrBougo> epsy, why 15416?
18:23 <epsy> and the current absolute coord method is fine
18:23 <luke-jr> nsh22: currently subversion, let me move it to bzr
18:23 <nsh22> ok :P
18:23 <luke-jr> epsy: fine for the game,  not fine for authors
18:24 <epsy> it was easier for me to do full coords
18:24 <epsy> and it's easier to see what walls are crossing eachother
18:24 <epsy> so better readability
18:25 <epsy> do you realize it becomes brainfuck to understand? maybe it's easier to write but then it just gets impossible
18:25 <nsh22> epsy: maybe have a program that interprets commands and transforms them into the wall coordinates?
18:25 <epsy> let that be done by whoever writes a good map editor and have something along these lines
18:25 <luke-jr> epsy: why do the main branches end in -work?
18:26 <epsy> nsh22, that's called a calculator
18:26 <nsh22> epsy: ...
18:26 <epsy> @8ball why do the main branches end in -work?
18:26 <teabot> epsy: Come again?
18:26 <luke-jr> epsy: a very complex calculator, unless you only use 90 degree turns
18:27 <epsy> /\
18:27 <epsy> ||
18:27 <luke-jr> for hexaxis-style maps, something automatic is needed
18:27 <epsy> _
18:27 <epsy> do that with your leet format
18:27 <luke-jr> easy?
18:27 <luke-jr> start at 0,0
18:27 <epsy> go up by one
18:27 <luke-jr> turn to 90 degrees
18:27 <luke-jr> go straight 1
18:27 <luke-jr> turn -90 degrees (up)
18:27 <luke-jr> go straight 1
18:27 <luke-jr> turn -45 degrees
18:28 <luke-jr> etc
18:28 <epsy> detail "etc"
18:28 <luke-jr> ok, I see the shortcoming
18:28 <epsy> :)
18:28 <nsh22> luke-jr: what is it?
18:28 <luke-jr> but *sometimes* it is useful
18:28 <luke-jr> for symmetrical maps
18:28 <luke-jr> nsh22: to finish epsy's example, you would need to do the geometry manually
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18:28 <epsy> so leave that for the map editor
18:29 <luke-jr> using points as we currently do is easier
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18:29 <luke-jr> anyhow, imported lp:~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/tools-griddraw-trunk-work
18:29 <nsh22> :(
18:29 <nsh22> ok thx
18:30 <luke-jr> looks like I updated it for AATeam/map-
18:30 <luke-jr> but that won't work for HexaTRON maps
18:30 <luke-jr> unless you rewrite *Pos handling
18:31 <nsh22> o0\
18:33 <nsh22> awww, i have to build and compile it myself?
18:33 <luke-jr> nsh22: …
18:33 <luke-jr> you missed the basic concept
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18:33 <nsh22> ive never done that before so...
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18:33 <luke-jr> you don't compile griddraw
18:33 <luke-jr> you compile your map
18:33 <luke-jr> griddraw is just an API
18:33 <nsh22> ok well i need to build it anyways
18:34 <luke-jr> look at griddraw-map-diamondspin.c
18:34 <luke-jr> that's a map
18:34  * nsh22 has no clue where to begin
18:34 <luke-jr> nsh22: to compile a map, run ./griddraw <map> xml
18:35 <nsh22> ... should i be working wit code::blocks?
18:35 <luke-jr> no
18:35 <nsh22> thats a map???
18:35 <luke-jr> indeed
18:35 <nsh22> is dev c++ good?
18:35 <nsh22> luke-jr: it doesnt look like the proper format, but i guess it will when i compile it
18:36 <luke-jr> no IDE
18:36 <nsh22> ???
18:36 <luke-jr> all CLI
18:36 <luke-jr> maybe a simple text editor for the C
18:36 <nsh22> ???
18:36 <nsh22> ????????????
18:37 -!- ivantis2 [n=ivantis@ppp-70-243-243-83.dsl.wchtks.swbell.net] has joined #armagetron
18:38  * nsh22 is very confused
18:42 <ivantis2> booc
18:42 <ivantis2> good**
18:42 <ivantis2> its all part of mine plan
18:42 <nsh22> @quote get 10
18:42 <teabot> nsh22: Quote #10: "<BabyBug>: ivantis2, if they give you the root password, the username is root" (added by epsy at 10:37 AM, March 20, 2009)
18:43 <nsh22> @quote get 11
18:43 <teabot> nsh22: Error: There is no Quote with id #11 in my database for #arma.xclan.
18:43 <luke-jr> LOL
18:43 <nsh22> @quote get 12
18:43 <teabot> nsh22: Quote #12: "* ivantis2 has quit <epsy> victory" (added by neal at 10:54 AM, March 20, 2009)
18:43 <nsh22> :P
18:43 <ivantis2> wow you fuddy arnt you?
18:44 <ivantis2> @quote get 1
18:44 <nsh22> ivantis2: i like to think so :P
18:44 <ivantis2> .seen Ttech[daedalus]
18:44 <tronner> ivantis2: (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself.
18:45 <ivantis2> .seen ttech
18:45 <tronner> ivantis2: ttech was last seen in #armagetron 16 weeks, 3 days, 17 hours, 48 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: <Ttech> How was i?
18:45 <ivantis2> .seen Ttech[daedalus]
18:45 <tronner> ivantis2: (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself.
18:45 <ivantis2> .seen "Ttech[daedalus]"
18:45 <tronner> ivantis2: I have not seen Ttech[daedalus].
18:45 <ivantis2> 16 weeks ago?
18:45 <ivantis2> goodness
18:45 <ivantis2> .seen The_Master
18:45 <tronner> ivantis2: The_Master was last seen in #armagetron 15 weeks, 1 day, 4 hours, 29 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: <The_Master> Probably
18:46 <nsh22> .seen eddiefantastic
18:46 <tronner> nsh22: eddiefantastic was last seen in #armagetron 1 day, 2 hours, 6 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: <eddiefantastic> you can change the arena size, but not map iirc
18:46 <ivantis2> ?? it was less than that
18:46 <ivantis2> i made it play roulette
18:46 <ivantis2> .seen the real armabot
18:46 <tronner> ivantis2: (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself.
18:46 <luke-jr> anyone else think it's time to kick ivantis2?
18:47  * nsh22 raises hand
18:47 <ivantis2> no
18:47 <nsh22> 0/
18:47 <nsh22> o/*
18:47 -!- armabot [n=luke@wsip-98-172-136-133.om.om.cox.net] has joined #armagetron
18:47 <nsh22> luke, we want wrtlprnft s bot :(
18:47 <ivantis2> luke-jr, remove that armabot impersonator
18:48 <ivantis2> dont be dumb
18:48 <luke-jr> …
18:48 <luke-jr> #ping
18:48 <ivantis2> even if it didnt say luke@wsip...
18:48 <armabot> luke-jr: pong
18:48 <nsh22> he prolly just brought it in to kick you ivantis2
18:48 <nsh22> #thing
18:48 <ivantis2> i could still tell it was yours. i remember your hostname
18:48 <luke-jr> ivantis2: armabot is open source
18:48 <ivantis2> so?
18:48 <luke-jr> my hostname is 2002:: something
18:48 <luke-jr> idiot
18:49 <luke-jr> or should be anyhow
18:49 <nsh22> luke, you lie
18:49 <luke-jr> nsh22: u
18:49 <nsh22> n= Luke-Jr
18:49 <ivantis2> dude, i remember before you got all ipv6-ey, it was *.om.om.cox.net
18:50 <luke-jr> ivantis2: you didn't know me before I got IPv6, idiot
18:50 <nsh22> it still is
18:50 <ivantis2> sometimes you forget to IPv6 and its that
18:50 <luke-jr> #echo ivantis2: you suck
18:50 <armabot> ivantis2: you suck
18:50 <nsh22> what is ipv6?
18:50 <ivantis2> better than ipv4
18:50 <luke-jr> ivantis2: not forget, idiot
18:50 <nsh22> ivantis2: ...
18:51 <luke-jr> ISP goes down and IRC client retries w/o IPv6
18:51 <luke-jr> nsh22: Internet Protocol version 6
18:51 <nsh22> ah ty luke-jr
18:51 -!- luke-jr [n=luke-jr@ip70-187-26-118.om.om.cox.net] has quit []
18:51 <ivantis2> in case we run out of IPv4s
18:51 -!- luke-jr [n=luke-jr@2002:46bb:1a76:0:20e:a6ff:fec4:4e5d] has joined #armagetron
18:51 <ivantis2> we can use ipv6
18:51 <luke-jr> there, happy?
18:51 <ivantis2> no
18:51 <luke-jr> ivantis2: f u
18:51 <nsh22> then die
18:51 <ivantis2> you came back. i was happy
18:52 <luke-jr> nsh22: my IP address is 2002:46bb:1a76:0:20e:a6ff:fec4:4e5d
18:52 <nsh22> i see that
18:52 <nsh22> but before it was soemthing else
18:52 <armabot> nsh22: you suck
18:52 <ivantis2> im out of town visiting someone, and their ISP doesnt support ipv6
18:52 <armabot> ivantis2: die
18:52 <luke-jr> PING google.com(2001:4860:0:2001::68) 56 data bytes
18:52 <nsh22> ...
18:52 <luke-jr> 64 bytes from 2001:4860:0:2001::68: icmp_seq=1 ttl=56 time=164 ms
18:53 <armabot> ...
18:53 <nsh22> armabot?
18:53 <armabot> NO
18:53 <armabot> LEAVE ME ALONE
18:53 <ivantis2> its too bad t-mobile doesnt support IPv6
18:53 <armabot> its too bad ivantis2 supports IRC
18:53 <nsh22> luke or whoever is controling armabstfu
18:53 <nsh22> luke or whoever is controling armabot stfu *
18:53 <armabot> nsh22: stfu u
18:54 <armabot> I am armabot!
18:54 <luke-jr> …
18:54 <nsh22> luke, its coming from your ip,plz stop it.
18:54 <luke-jr> wtf is doing that
18:54 <ivantis2> ignoring the armabot impersonator
18:55 <armabot> let's all ignore ivantis2
18:55 <nsh22> i agree
18:55 <ivantis2> wtf why did i see that?
18:55 <ivantis2> stupid thing
18:55 <armabot> you can't ignore me
18:55 <armabot> I'm the armabot
18:55 <ivantis2> impersonator
18:55 <nsh22> lol luke
18:55 <armabot> lulwtfbbq
18:56 <nsh22> #echo #roulette
18:56 <armabot> I hereby declare ivantis2 fail
18:56 <armabot> #roulette
18:56 <nsh22> #r
18:56 <armabot> *click*
18:56 <nsh22> #roulette
18:56 <armabot> *click*
18:56 <ivantis2> are you shitting me? its not possible to reply to itself
18:56 <nsh22> ]echo #roulette
18:56 <ivantis2> #r
18:57 <armabot> #roulette
18:57 <armabot> *click*
18:57 <nsh22> ]echo fail
18:57 <ivantis2> .echo #r
18:57 <tronner> #r
18:57 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
18:57  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
18:57 <nsh22> luke-jr: op armabot
18:58 <luke-jr> uh
18:58 <luke-jr> no
18:58 <ivantis2> luke-jr, remember what happened to Zoffix?
18:58 <nsh22> why?
18:58 <luke-jr> ivantis2, remember what happened to you?
18:58  * luke-jr ponders a new K-line for ivantis2
18:58 <ivantis2> he was being dumb and got banned from #perl. maybe we need to do that to you
18:58 <ivantis2> dude, luke-jr should be k-lined
18:58 <nsh22> why?
18:59 <ivantis2> im not the creep
18:59 <luke-jr> because ivantis2 is a little babuy
18:59 <ivantis2> babuy?
18:59 <nsh22> aussie for baby
19:00 <ivantis2> why does luke-jr hate me?
19:00  * luke-jr wonders where nsh22 comes up with this crap
19:00 <nsh22> "that dingo ate mah babuy!"
19:00  * nsh22 wondersas well
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19:01 <ivantis2> oh good its gone
19:01 <nsh22> ty luke
19:02 <luke-jr> sorry
19:02 <luke-jr> I pressed Esc too many times
19:03 <ivantis2> luke-jr, really, why do you hate me?
19:03 <luke-jr> ivantis2: I don't hate you
19:03 <nsh22> ivantis2: ... idont think he hats you, your just annoying
19:03 <luke-jr> and just to prove it, I'm driving down there just to visit you!
19:03 <nsh22> lol you would do that luek
19:03 <luke-jr> off to Lawrence I go!
19:03 <luke-jr> ttyl
19:03 <ivantis2> great! a visit from luke-jr
19:03  * luke-jr is away: visiting ivantis
19:04 <nsh22> ivantis2: hah sux
19:04 <ivantis2> but do you not remember the fact that im out of town for the week?
19:04 <luke-jr> woops, almost forgot my baseball bat
19:04  * luke-jr is away: visiting ivantis
19:04 <nsh22> yeah luke-jr :<ivantis2> im out of town visiting someone, and their ISP doesnt support ipv6
19:04 <ivantis2> noob
19:05 <luke-jr> XD
19:05 <nsh22> :P
19:05 <luke-jr> ivantis2: you're the noob
19:05 <luke-jr> you should know very well that I hate baseball
19:06 <luke-jr> thus, I would not have a baseball bat
19:06 <nsh22> lol
19:06 <nsh22> maybe its for beating ppl up?
19:06 <ivantis2> baseball is a dumb sport
19:06 <luke-jr> it is
19:06 <luke-jr> nsh22: no, that's a clue bat
19:06 <nsh22> luke-jr: ah, do you have one of those? if so, in what room?
19:06 <nsh22> we should make an irc clue game :P
19:07 <luke-jr> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cluebat
19:07 <luke-jr> nsh22: isn't that yandere?
19:08 <nsh22> luke-jr: does yandere have a candle holder in the observatory? no it doesnt
19:08 <ivantis2> noobn
19:08 <luke-jr> nsh22: report a bug for how it could be made relevant
19:08 <ivantis2> n ooo b
19:08 <ivantis2> nobobooeoobo
19:08 <luke-jr> ]y start theme=twg
19:08 <luke-jr> ljrbot?
19:08 <luke-jr> wtf
19:08 <ivantis2> will you let me play yandere this time?
19:09 -!- ljrbot [n=supybot-@2002:46bb:1a76:0:2b0:d0ff:fe49:6b31] has joined #Armagetron
19:09 <ivantis2> ]ping
19:09 <ljrbot> New news from armagetronadbzr: [tools-griddraw-trunk-work] r4 port pf_savestate and pf_restorestate to new map format || [tools-griddraw-trunk-work] r3 missing C include || [tools-griddraw-trunk-work] r2 missing C include || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1102 restore missing specific DTDs from repository
19:09 <luke-jr> ]admin ignore remove ivantis2
19:09 <ljrbot> luke-jr: Error: ivantis2!n=ivantis@ppp-70-243-243-83.dsl.wchtks.swbell.net wasn't in the ignores database.
19:09 <luke-jr> ]admin ignore remove *!*@*.swbell.net
19:09 <ljrbot> luke-jr: Error: *!*@*.swbell.net wasn't in the ignores database.
19:09 <luke-jr> ]admin ignore remove ivantis*
19:09 <ljrbot> luke-jr: Error: 'ivantis*' is not a valid nick or hostmask.
19:09 <luke-jr> ivantis2: how are you blocked?
19:09 <luke-jr> -.-
19:09 <luke-jr> ]list admin ignore
19:09 <ljrbot> luke-jr: (list [--private] [<plugin>]) -- Lists the commands available in the given plugin. If no plugin is given, lists the public plugins available. If --private is given, lists the private plugins.
19:09 <luke-jr> ]list admin
19:09 <ljrbot> luke-jr: capability add, capability remove, channels, ignore add, ignore list, ignore remove, join, nick, and part
19:09 <ivantis2> ]ping
19:10 <luke-jr> ]admin ignore list
19:10 <ljrbot> luke-jr: 'ballsac!n=atifali@', 'Aynuhl_Sehks!n=tboone@user-24-214-126-81.knology.net', 'x80!i=Elite@p3m/member/x80', 'hifjifs!n=hifjifs@124-197-4-107.callplus.net.nz', '*!*@unaffiliated/ivantis', 'kazol*!*@*', 'gghh!i=revived@iraqi.army.isoverrated.com', 'spainish!n=spanish_@', 'hhgg!i=revived@prune.juice.or.poonjuice.us', '*!*@', (8 more messages)
19:10 <luke-jr> ]more
19:10 <ljrbot> luke-jr: '*!i=3ff5a67c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/*', 'Raylen!n=Raylen@adsl-69-235-199-157.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net', 'Ziggy_Sawdust!n=zatoshi@', 'USAPoliticalPUND!n=none@ool-43551b92.dyn.optonline.net', 'jodedor!n=vain@adsl-75-45-219-32.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net', 'jesus!n=DrJoeTro@adsl-76-215-1-97.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net', '*!*@pool-64-222-155-82.man.east.verizon.net', (7 more messages)
19:10 <luke-jr> ]more
19:10 <ljrbot> luke-jr: '*!*@joo.got.haxored.net', '*!*@host-64-147-213-60.cbvnol.com', 'pornfrog!n=frog@c-24-125-212-124.hsd1.va.comcast.net', '*!i=479ed353@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/*', '*!*@CPE-24-31-243-62.kc.res.rr.com', 'dweezel!n=dweezel@', '*!*@cm100242.red83-165.mundo-r.com', 'teabot!i=xclan@fiji.dreamhost.com', '*!i=3ff59f4e@gateway/*', '*!*@153.sub-75-198-134.myvzw.com', (6 more messages)
19:10 <luke-jr> ]more
19:10 <ljrbot> luke-jr: 'Guy616!n=nobody@c-24-126-170-79.hsd1.ga.comcast.net', '*!*@nonsocial.net', '_mre|*!*@*', '*!*@*.myvzw.com', 'snmpee!n=sxgbs@CPE-24-31-243-62.kc.res.rr.com', 'Krishna!n=fullname@', '*!i=revived@*', '*!*@ip24-250-174-83.ga.at.cox.net', '*!*@c-24-126-170-79.hsd1.ga.comcast.net', 'JayzusPewp!n=godisdea@xtreme-154-174.dyn.aci.on.ca', 'angelBot!n=angel@', (5 more messages)
19:10 <luke-jr> ]more
19:10 <luke-jr> ]more
19:10 <ljrbot> luke-jr: '*!*@fl-71-55-251-1.dhcp.embarqhsd.net', 'ImoutoBot!n=Imouto@adsl-67-117-24-97.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net', 'sjshsjsg!n=browneye@191.sub-75-199-124.myvzw.com', '_mre|666!i=b00hahah@gateway/tor/x-b39a9bc187a2dc81', '*!*@63-245-159-78.kitusa.com', '*!*@pool-96-231-66-237.washdc.east.verizon.net', 'wass!n=wass___@', 'ivan*!*@*', 'hifjifs_!n=hifjifs@124-197-4-107.callplus.net.nz', (4 more messages)
19:10 <luke-jr> ]more
19:10 <luke-jr> ]more
19:10 <ljrbot> luke-jr: 'armabot!n=armabot@', 'downs^bot!n=downs^bo@p4FD56F8E.dip.t-dialin.net', 'clue!n=Think@unaffiliated/clue', '*!*@iraqi.army.isoverrated.com', '*!*@gateway/tor/*', 'PipHog!n=piphogta@unaffiliated/piphog', 'JewsusGeist!n=brokuget@adsl-75-10-116-32.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net', 'Ricco!n=ApplePie@pool-71-250-132-74.nwrknj.east.verizon.net', (3 more messages)
19:10 <luke-jr> ]more
19:10 <nsh22> you ignored imoutobit?
19:10 <ljrbot> luke-jr: 'Reaper`!n=Casper@adsl-99-148-255-87.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net', '*!*@unaffiliated/politihal', '*!*@ip565002c4.direct-adsl.nl', 'joeblob!i=fook@joo.got.haxored.net', '*!*@*.sub-75-199-124.myvzw.com', 'nopatop!n=nopatop@cpc1-cowc4-0-0-cust771.renf.cable.ntl.com', '*!*@2002:3ff5:9f4e:*', '*!*@cpe-76-178-252-151.maine.res.rr.com', 'desu!n=me@unaffiliated/desu', (2 more messages)
19:10 <ivantis2> ivan*!*@*
19:10 <ljrbot> luke-jr: 'modulus!n=DAVID@cm100242.red83-165.mundo-r.com', '*!*@202.sub-70-211-129.myvzw.com', 'Ricco!n=ApplePie@pool-71-250-201-124.nwrknj.east.verizon.net', '*!*@prune.juice.or.poonjuice.us', '*!*ivan*@*.kitusa.com', '*!*@adsl-76-215-1-97.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net', 'FIRESIDE91!n=fireside@75-165-150-172.spkn.qwest.net', 'DrJoeTron!n=DrJoeTro@adsl-76-215-1-97.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net', (1 more message)
19:10 <ivantis2> i saw it
19:10 <ljrbot> luke-jr: 'kerusso!n=kerusso@c-24-20-221-36.hsd1.mn.comcast.net', 'dweezel!n=dweezel@CPE-65-30-76-6.kc.res.rr.com', 'smoothice!n=smoothic@unaffiliated/smoothice', 'downs^bot!n=downs^bo@p4FD574E4.dip.t-dialin.net', 'Lucidiot!n=john@S010600105a100929.ss.shawcable.net', and '*!*@143.sub-70-211-143.myvzw.com'
19:10 <luke-jr> ]admin ignore remove *!*@unaffiliated/ivantis
19:10 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
19:10 <ivantis2> ]ping
19:10 <nsh22> '*!*@63-245-159-78.kitusa.com'
19:10 <luke-jr> ]admin ignore remove ivan*!*@*
19:10 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
19:11 <ivantis2> ]ping
19:11 <ljrbot> pong
19:11 <luke-jr> ]admin ignore remove *!*ivan*@*.kitusa.com
19:11 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
19:11 <nsh22> ]y start theme=twg
19:11 <ljrbot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "]yandere" to join.
19:11 <luke-jr> ivantis2: next time, I only remove ONE ignore
19:11 <luke-jr> ivantis2: so if you evade ignores, it won't work
19:11 <luke-jr> ]admin ignore remove *!*@63-245-159-78.kitusa.com
19:11 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
19:11 <ivantis2> heh i just got something from 6 weeks ago
19:11 <luke-jr> ivantis2: got it?
19:11 <luke-jr> ]y
19:11 <ivantis2> ]y
19:12 <luke-jr> ivantis2: got it⁇?
19:12 <ivantis2> yah
19:12 <ivantis2> got it
19:12 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
19:12 <nsh22> ]ye
19:12 <ljrbot> Added another waiting extension.
19:13 <ivantis2> luke-jr, do you know java?
19:13 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
19:13 <nsh22> luke-jr: what if someone named end wanted to play?
19:13 <luke-jr> I know everything.
19:13 <luke-jr> nsh22: what if?
19:13 <luke-jr> be careful to use ]vote
19:13 <nsh22> if you wanted to vote for them, you yould tpe ]y end :P
19:14 <luke-jr> no
19:14 <luke-jr> ]vote end
19:14 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The game hasn't started yet.
19:14 <luke-jr> nsh22: I don't see your branch
19:14 <ljrbot> There aren't enough players to start the Worm Game. Try again later.
19:14 <luke-jr> ]ye
19:14 <ljrbot> luke-jr: There's no game here.
19:14 <luke-jr> too late
19:14 <luke-jr> oh well
19:14 <nsh22> my branch?
19:14 <nsh22> for what?
19:14 <ivantis2> luke-jr, you need to go to #android
19:14 -!- g4p [n=jp@p4FCE4DCD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
19:14 <ivantis2> get a G1 and write some apps
19:15 <ivantis2> like porting armagetron to Android
19:15 <luke-jr> nsh22: Yandere
19:15 -!- g4p [n=jp@p4FCE4DCD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #armagetron
19:15 <luke-jr> ivantis2: G1/Android suck
19:15 <nsh22> ]y start theme=twg
19:15 <ljrbot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "]yandere" to join.
19:15 <ivantis2> luke-jr, why?:
19:15 <luke-jr> Yandere in #Anime
19:15 <nsh22> ]y end
19:15 <ljrbot> The Worm Game game has been forced to end.
19:15 <luke-jr> ivantis2: usual proprietary crap mainly
19:15 <ivantis2> huh?
19:16 <luke-jr> ivantis2: join #anime
19:16 <luke-jr> ivantis2: anything non-Free is bad
19:16 <ivantis2> non-free?
19:16 <ivantis2> its free
19:16 <luke-jr> nope
19:16 <luke-jr> that's just a marketting gimmick
19:17 <ivantis2> how is it not free?
19:17 <ivantis2> dont buy a phone, just get the SDK
19:17 <luke-jr> you can't modify anything?
19:17 <luke-jr> …
19:17 <luke-jr> G1 is a phone
19:17 <luke-jr> and a SDK by itself is useless
19:17 <ivantis2> ...
19:17 <ivantis2> it comes with an emulator
19:17 <ivantis2> i wrote a few apps, but they suck
19:18 <luke-jr> it's useless
19:18 <ivantis2> how??
19:18 <luke-jr> …
19:18 <luke-jr> forget it
19:18 <ivantis2> anyway, what do you mean you can modify anything?
19:18  * nsh22 forund a definition of ivantis!
19:19 <nsh22> luser (plural lusers)
19:19 <nsh22> (computing, slang, derogatory) A person who does not have the ability to use computers.
19:19 <nsh22> (computing, slang, derogatory) A user (especially in IRC) who disobeys the rules of the servers that he or she is using and usually resorts to disruptive or offensive behavior/behaviour.
19:19 <nsh22> both apply :P
19:19 <ivantis2> how the fuck do i disobey rules? i got k-lined once because the staff couldnt get in contact with me
19:20 <ivantis2> and i have the ability to use computers
19:21 <nsh22> ivantis2: joke mehbeh?
19:21 <ivantis2> ...hilarious
19:22 <ivantis2> luke-jr, #android
19:22 <ivantis2> now
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19:27 <zurd> ding ding ding, work is done time for fun!
19:27 <nsh22> thats what she said :P
19:27 <zurd> :o
19:29 <nsh22> im on chapter 10/19, due by monday :P
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19:33 <zurd> wow
19:33 <nsh22> what you do now?
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19:35 <Concord> #si cafe
19:41 <nsh22> ]si cafe
19:41 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: "si" is not a valid command.
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19:52 <dlh> ]tea
19:52 <ljrbot> dlh: Fortress Café: Players (11/32): -=WOD=- grass, 1200, Aiphaton, berkstud, Blackeagle, bloc, Ct_Concord, preSsure, stax, WithGlasses, ~|DS|~zion
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20:01 <Vanhayes> ]tea
20:01 <ljrbot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (13/32): -=WOD=- grass, 1200, akira, berkstud, Blackeagle, Ct_Concord, preSsure, stax, wHaTuP, WithGlasses, `WwRudycantfail, ~*SP*~Magic, ~|DS|~zion
20:01 <Concord> 6v6
20:01 <Vanhayes> hmm cafe isnt showing up for me
20:02 <Vanhayes> oj nvrm there it is
20:04 <Vanhayes> not sure why im asking here, But by chance does anyone know what, if any, requirments there are to enroll in EMT courses?
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20:54 <Concord> i don't know about canada
20:55 <Concord> I think you need to have first aid & cpr/aed
20:55 <Concord> likely more
20:56 <Concord> maybe instructor certification for first aid cpr/aed
20:56 <Concord> Vanhayes:
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21:35 <Pathetique_> Bah.
21:35 <Pathetique_> SET_ZONE_POSITION dun work. x_x
21:41 -!- GodTodd_ [n=TheTruth@pool-173-74-72-105.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
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21:47 <nsh22> luke-jr: i have a question about catholicism
21:55 <Pathetique_> luke-jr's answer: its gay. stfu. rtfm.
21:55 -!- Pathetique_ is now known as Pathetique
21:56 <nsh22> Pathetique: hes a roman catholic i beleive
21:56 <Pathetique> LOL
21:56 <Pathetique> kk
21:56 <Pathetique> g2g
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22:14 <Concord> ]tea
22:14 <ljrbot> Concord: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
22:14 <nniveus> conc :P
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23:01 <nsh22> any1 in here?
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23:33 <PinkTomato> nsh22: seems not
23:33 <nsh22> PinkTomato: lol....
23:33  * nsh22 plays wild west music as a tubleweed passes by
23:33 <PinkTomato> #echo
23:33 <PinkTomato> not even an armabot
23:33 <nsh22> shes gone
23:34 <PinkTomato> it has* gone
23:34 <nsh22> wrtlprnft: isnt armnabot a she
23:34 <PinkTomato> .echo
23:34 <tronner> PinkTomato: (echo <text>) -- Returns the arguments given it. Uses our standard substitute on the string(s) given to it; $nick (or $who), $randomNick, $randomInt, $botnick, $channel, $user, $host, $today, $now, and $randomDate are all handled appropriately.
23:34 <MrBougo> she's an hermaphrodite
23:34 <nsh22> ive been told its a she (i called it an it once)
23:35 <MrBougo> wrtlprnft said it's a she :)
23:35 <nsh22> even ask Lucifer
23:35 <MrBougo> a while ago
23:35 <PinkTomato> pah, its a robot...
23:35 <nsh22> http://www.fmylife.com/miscellaneous/197015 <===lmao
23:38 <PinkTomato> Hmmm, I think most of them are lies...
23:38 <nsh22> yeah, but some of them are funny nonetheless
23:41  * epsy booes at PinkTomato 
23:42 <nsh22> its boos
23:42 <nsh22> not boes
23:42 <nsh22> booes*
23:42 <akira_arma> #tea
23:42 <akira_arma> :o
23:43 <PinkTomato> nsh22: they both look wrong
23:43 <PinkTomato> .dic booes
23:43 -!- ivantis2 [n=ivantis@ppp-70-243-243-83.dsl.wchtks.swbell.net] has joined #armagetron
23:46 <epsy> http://quakefour.net/phpnuke/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=65
23:49 <ivantis2> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FYdn8KPi9E
23:50 <PinkTomato> @ping
23:50 <teabot> pong
23:50 <PinkTomato> hmm
23:51 <ivantis2> ]echo epsy: man that guys retarded. there is no such thing as zero ping
23:51 <ljrbot> epsy: man that guys retarded. there is no such thing as zero ping
23:51 <PinkTomato> teabot must only auto @title in tourneys then...
23:51 <nsh22> ivantis2: omg you got something right for a change :P
23:51 <luke-jr> ivantis2: don't abuse ljrbot or you'll be back on ignore
23:52 <luke-jr> nsh22: screw that, I sold servers with NEGATIVE ping almost a year ago
23:52 <luke-jr> I'll be selling more of them in about 2 weeks too
23:52 <nsh22> how??/
23:52 <luke-jr> 11 days to be exact
23:52 <luke-jr> 1 day sale
23:52 <nsh22> that...doesnt...make any sense whatsoever
23:52 <luke-jr> sure it does
23:53 <luke-jr> the server runs in the future
23:53 <luke-jr> and you play in present
23:53 <PinkTomato> That's the day a replica titanic hit our shores according to the paper
23:53 <nsh22> so...it predicts where you will be?
23:53 <luke-jr> nsh22: yep
23:53 <luke-jr> well rather
23:53 <luke-jr> the future part of the server gets your info
23:53 <luke-jr> and sends it back to the server in the present, before it happens
23:53 <PinkTomato> Oh and the spagetti trees
23:54 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: and EA buying Armagetron
23:54 <nsh22> luke-jr: that makes no sense....
23:54 <nsh22> ...
23:54 <luke-jr> nsh22: what? EA buying Armagetron makes no sense?
23:54 <nsh22> no,,,the thing be4
23:54 <luke-jr> …
23:55 <luke-jr> anyhow
23:55 <nsh22> btw,are you not allowed to eat meat on fridays?
23:55 <PinkTomato> nsh22: check yr calendar
23:55 <luke-jr> correct
23:56 <PinkTomato> why might that be so?
23:56 <nsh22> well, what if you had some meat leftovers and they needed to be eaten or thrown out, what would youu do?
23:56 <nsh22> on friday
23:57 <nsh22> PinkTomato: Roman catholics dont eat meat on fridays i dont think
23:57 <PinkTomato> I did not know that.
23:57 <luke-jr> nsh22: probably throw them out I guess
23:58 <luke-jr> or maybe give em to kids who aren't bound
23:58 <nsh22> luke-jr: but would god (in your opinion) rather have you not waste it?
23:58 -!- akira_arma [n=chatzill@77-64-161-27.dynamic.primacom.net] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.7/2009021910]"]
23:59 <luke-jr> sounds like a question for a priest, but waste is not a sin while disobedience is
23:59 <nsh22> hmmm ok

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