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Log from 2009-03-06:
--- Day changed Fri Mar 06 2009
00:03 -!- nsh22 [n=neal@unaffiliated/nsh22] has joined #armagetron
00:03 <nsh22> hey hey hey
00:09 <ivantis2> faat albert
00:10 <ivantis2> #ls ntp
00:10 <@armabot> ivantis2: timed out
00:10 <ivantis2> #ls ivantis
00:10 -!- animuson [n=animuson@CM-204-193-203-61.omah.tconl.com] has joined #armagetron
00:10 <@armabot> ivantis2: ivantis has last been seen on Fortress Café 15 minutes ago.
00:10 <nsh22> #ls neal
00:11 <@armabot> nsh22: timed out
00:11 <nsh22> #weather innisfil
00:11 <@armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Innisfil, Innisfil, Ontario is 37.4°F (6:11 PM EST on March 05, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: 12.2°F. Windchill: 33.8°F. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Falling).
00:11 <nsh22> #ping
00:11 <@armabot> pong
00:12 <animuson> #weather 68138
00:12 <@armabot> animuson: The current temperature in Chalco Hills Rec Area, Omaha, Nebraska is 66.0°F (5:12 PM CST on March 05, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 46.4°F. Pressure: 29.53 in 999.9 hPa (Rising).
00:13 <ivantis2> #weather 66044
00:14 <@armabot> ivantis2: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 82.0°F (5:13 PM CST on March 05, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 26%. Dew Point: 44.6°F. Pressure: 29.58 in 1001.6 hPa (Steady).
00:14 <animuson> hey ivantis :)
00:14 <ivantis2> hey
00:14 <animuson> i was actually here to look for u but i forgot
00:14 <animuson> XD
00:14 <ivantis2> argh what am i doing?
00:14 <ivantis2> i need to get back to work
00:14 <ivantis2> but what did you want?
00:14 <animuson> is there a patch-type file that contains all the changes made by ur patch?
00:15 <ivantis2> you could generate one i suppose
00:15 <ivantis2> i dont have one
00:15 <animuson> are all the changes just in gWinZone.cpp and .h?
00:15 <ivantis2> no, many other files
00:15 <animuson> hmmm
00:16 <animuson> ill just install my stuff into ur version :P
00:16 <ivantis2> deep, deep in XML parsing, ePlayer.*, some other files too
00:16 <animuson> itd be easier
00:16 <animuson> do ur mods change anything or just add stuff?
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00:17 <ivantis2> both
00:18 -!- smoothice [n=smoothic@97-122-119-120.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #armagetron
00:19 <animuson> hey smoothice :)
00:19 <smoothice> hi
00:19 <ivantis2> hey smoothice
00:19 <nsh22> hiya smotth
00:19 <smoothice> lol hi
00:19 * nsh22 is away:
00:19 <ivantis2> before i get asked any more questions, i need to get back to work though
00:19 <animuson> ur presence does not go unnoticed :P
00:19 <smoothice> lol
00:20 <animuson> occasionally
00:20 <animuson> ^_^
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00:21 <animuson> how do i copy files?
00:21 <smoothice> cp?
00:21 <ivantis2> that was the most vague question i have ever been asked
00:22 <animuson> lol
00:22 <animuson> cp "file path" "new file path"?
00:22 <ivantis2> yeah
00:22 <smoothice> #m epsy who the frick cares if you don't support CTF. It would just be a fun new project... -.-
00:22 * nsh22 is back (gone 00:02:51)
00:22 <@armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
00:22 <ivantis2> or scp
00:23 <ivantis2> scp [user][@host:]file [user][@host:]destination
00:23 <smoothice> scp is for nerds or cannot use SSH
00:23 <smoothice> who*
00:23 <ivantis2> wtf?
00:24 <ivantis2> scp runs over ssh
00:24 <nsh22> i run tyuou over
00:24 <ivantis2> and how would ssh replace scp?
00:24 <ivantis2> scp ivantis@somewhere ./
00:24 <ivantis2> scp ivantis@somewhere:/blah/blah ./
00:25 <ivantis2> how else would you get it?
00:25 <madmax> you setup a web server through ssh haha
00:25 <ivantis2> stuff in braces is optional
00:25 <ivantis2> then invent some new protocol?
00:26 <ivantis2> sfcphttpshhbbqp
00:26 <nsh22> smoothice: your losing the arguement :P
00:27 <ivantis2> dah! im doing it again!
00:28 <ivantis2> someone ban me so that i can work
00:28 <ivantis2> this project is due in a few days
00:28 <smoothice> umm
00:29 <smoothice> #ban ivantis2
00:29 <nsh22> #poll ivantis2
00:29 <ivantis2> #r
00:29 <ivantis2> dead?
00:29 <ivantis2> #ping
00:29 <@armabot> pong
00:29 <ivantis2> #roulette
00:29 -!- ivantis2 [n=ivantis@63-245-159-78.kitusa.com] has left #armagetron [requested by armabot: "BANG!"]
00:29 * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
00:30 <nsh22> smoothice: nw df is pretty popular :P
00:30 -!- CruZ [n=cruzer@p57AF5C7A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #armagetron
00:30 <smoothice> nsh22: yep
00:30 <nsh22> hey, where would i put the command for spwainging zones
00:30 <smoothice> ?
00:30 <nsh22> settings_custom?
00:31 <smoothice> wait
00:31 <smoothice> spawning zones for each round?
00:31 <nsh22> yes
00:31 <smoothice> you have to use php for that
00:31 <nsh22> ...
00:31 <nsh22> what about random spawning zones?
00:31 <coldcrow> #tea
00:31 <smoothice> you have to use php for that too
00:32 -!- coldcrow is now known as akira_arma
00:32 <CruZ> hey, does anybody know how to add a ban manually by editing the bans.txt ?
00:32 <@armabot> coldcrow: Fortress Café: Players (14/32): 2020, Durka skipdef© (DDMJ@forums), Gusbo T Jam esq, hand, Hedera, Hera, Lackadaisical, madmax (madmax@forums), man2d, noob13, noob44, pavelo (pavelo@forums), poop, vol
00:32 <nsh22> ok, how would i use php for it (i.e. what files)
00:32 <CruZ> one line - one ip ?
00:32 <smoothice> CruZ: you have to specify a time too...
00:32 <smoothice> CruZ: try banning yourself to see what the format is
00:33 <CruZ> so for example: 255.255.255.255 99999
00:33 <smoothice> nsh22: you have to get luke-jr to enable a php parser for you
00:33 <smoothice> CruZ: I'd say so
00:33 <CruZ> ok
00:33 <CruZ> thx
00:33 <smoothice> k
00:33 <nsh22> sdoesnt ct+sty come with one?
00:34 <smoothice> sty+ct has not one line of PHP code in it
00:34 <smoothice> all sty+ct does is add more stuff the ladderlog and add some extra commands here and there
00:34 <smoothice> the ladderlog stuff is very powerful
00:34 <smoothice> but is not php
00:34 <smoothice> the php parser parses the ladderlog and sends output through stdout to arma itself
00:35 <animuson> it doesnt let me bzr ivantis' arma-hacks -> http://pastebin.com/m3883b6eb
00:35 <smoothice> meh
00:35 <smoothice> that branch is old and crappy
00:35 <smoothice> oooh
00:35 <smoothice> bzr error
00:35 <smoothice> animuson: bzr --version
00:35 <smoothice> what version of bzr?
00:36 <animuson> 1.3.1
00:36 <smoothice> the newst is like 1.12
00:36 <animuson> :P
00:36 <nsh22> luke-jr: do you have a php parser for your servers?
00:36 <smoothice> nsh22: you have to write them yourself... and you have to decide what you want it to do
00:36 <nsh22> o0
00:37 <smoothice> I could do it for you
00:37 <smoothice> lol
00:37 <animuson> how do i upgrade it?
00:37 <smoothice> what OS is ur vps running
00:37 <animuson> ubuntu
00:37 <smoothice> ubuntu x.xx?
00:38 <animuson> 8.something
00:38 <nsh22> queston where is users.cfg
00:38 <smoothice> ???
00:39 <animuson> 8.04 :P
00:40 <smoothice> get 8.10
00:40 <smoothice> google it
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00:40 <luke-jr> nsh22: service bots are supported, yes
00:40 <luke-jr> nsh22: though Perl > PHP
00:40 <smoothice> ...
00:40 <smoothice> perl is crap in a hole
00:40 <luke-jr> nsh22: your current one is BASH
00:40 <nsh22> luke-jr: but i have to have my own?
00:40 <luke-jr> PHP is crap :p
00:40 <smoothice> perl is SH --- IT
00:40 <luke-jr> nsh22: the map rotator is a BASH one
00:41 <luke-jr> smoothice: shows that you know nothing of Perl ☺
00:41 <smoothice> I do.. but not the inner workings of it
00:41 <nsh22> luke-jr: what i want to do is zone spawning
00:41 <luke-jr> nobody who knows Perl hates it :p
00:41 <nsh22> my server just dieded
00:41 <smoothice> crash
00:41 <luke-jr> nsh22: O.o
00:41 <animuson> theres not an easy way to upgrade it?
00:41 <smoothice> apt-get dist-upgrade
00:41 <smoothice> butp
00:41 <smoothice> but
00:41 <smoothice> run these first
00:42 <smoothice> apt-get update
00:42 <smoothice> apt-get upgrade
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00:42 <smoothice> apt-get dist-upgrade
00:42 <animuson> i just did
00:42 <smoothice> all of those?
00:42 <luke-jr> eating supper, bbiab
00:42 <smoothice> ...
00:42 <smoothice> k
00:42 <luke-jr> animuson: btw, smoothice is giving anicent directions
00:42 <smoothice> screw you luke-jr :P
00:42 <smoothice> those aren't ancient
00:42 <luke-jr> animuson: put 'aptitude' instead of 'apt-get'
00:42 <luke-jr> apt-get is obsolete
00:42 <smoothice> ...
00:42 <smoothice> so?
00:42 <animuson> it upgrade proftpd :-/
00:42 <animuson> lol
00:42 <luke-jr> and using it can be destructive
00:42 <luke-jr> animuson: I'd uninstall proftpd; FTP is a security hole
00:43 <luke-jr> anyhow, eating supper, bbiab
00:43 <nsh22> luke-jr: what should i use for a zone spawner?
00:43 <smoothice> php
00:43 <smoothice> nsh22: use php and tell luke-jr to shut up :D
00:43 <luke-jr> nsh22: Perl or BASH, depending on complexity
00:43 <smoothice> wait
00:43 <smoothice> nsh22 is paying luke-jr
00:43 <smoothice> not vice versa
00:43 <smoothice> so nsh22 can do whatever he wants
00:43 <smoothice> nsh22: use php
00:43 <luke-jr> nsh22: PHP is designed for webpages and doesn't work well for anything else
00:43 <luke-jr> nsh22: PHP is also a memory hog
00:43 <smoothice> nsh22: incorrect
00:43 <smoothice> nsh22: x2
00:43 <nsh22> sry smooth but he has more experiance on these things :P
00:43 <smoothice> says who?
00:43 <luke-jr> smoothice: Sty v2 working yet?
00:43 <luke-jr> kthx
00:44 <smoothice> ....
00:44 <luke-jr> ☺
00:44 <smoothice> that's C++ dummy
00:44 <smoothice> DIFFERENT!
00:44 <luke-jr> it's programming
00:44 <luke-jr> now, I really should go eat my supper
00:44 <luke-jr> it's getting cold
00:44 <smoothice> nah
00:44 <luke-jr> bbiab
00:44 <smoothice> so/
00:44 <smoothice> so what about your stupid dinner?
00:47 -!- coldcrow is now known as akira_arma
00:47 <animuson> when i try to install bzr is stops and says bzr is already the newest version
00:47 <animuson> :-/
00:47 <smoothice> ...
00:47 <smoothice> for 8.04?
00:47 <luke-jr> so why do you think you dont have it?
00:47 <smoothice> ?
00:52 <smoothice> #cfg2 ladderlog_write_
00:52 <smoothice> nsh22: these are all the things the script can respond to
00:52 <@armabot> smoothice: LADDERLOG_WRITE_ADMIN_COMMAND: ladderlog_write_admin_command_help(Default: 0 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_ADMIN_LOGIN: ladderlog_write_admin_login_help(Default: 0 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_ADMIN_LOGOUT: ladderlog_write_admin_logout_help(Default: 0 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_ALL: Set all the LADDER_LOG_WRITE_* settings to the same value || LADDERLOG_WRITE_AUTHORITY_BLURB: Write to ladderlog: (11 more messages)
00:52 <smoothice> #more
00:52 <@armabot> smoothice: AUTHORITY_BLURB (Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_BALL_VANISH: ladderlog_write_ball_vanish_help(Default: 0 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_BASEZONE_CONQUERED: Write to ladderlog: BASEZONE_CONQUERED (Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_BASEZONE_CONQUERER: Write to ladderlog: BASEZONE_CONQUERER (Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_BASEZONE_CONQUERER_TEAM: ladderlog_write_basezone_conquerer_team_help(Default: (10 more messages)
00:52 <smoothice> #more
00:52 <@armabot> smoothice: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_CHAT: Write to ladderlog: CHAT [/me] (Default: 0 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_COMMAND: Write to ladderlog: COMMAND (Default: 0 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_DEATH_BASEZONE_CONQUERED: ladderlog_write_death_basezone_conquered_help(Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_DEATH_DEATHZONE: ladderlog_write_death_deathzone_help(Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_DEATH_FRAG: Write to ladderlog: (9 more messages)
00:52 <smoothice> #more
00:52 <@armabot> smoothice: DEATH_FRAG (Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_DEATH_RUBBERZONE: ladderlog_write_death_rubberzone_help(Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_DEATH_SHOT_FRAG: ladderlog_write_death_shot_frag_help(Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_DEATH_SHOT_SUICIDE: ladderlog_write_death_shot_suicide_help(Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_DEATH_SHOT_TEAMKILL: ladderlog_write_death_shot_teamkill_help(Default: 1 ) || (8 more messages)
00:52 <nsh22> im actually editing some of those on my server...
00:52 <nsh22> ladderlog_write_admin stuff
00:52 <smoothice> yeah
00:53 <smoothice> #cfg2 ladderlog_write_round
00:53 <@armabot> smoothice: LADDERLOG_WRITE_ROUND_COMMENCING: ladderlog_write_round_commencing_help(Default: 0 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_ROUND_SCORE: Write to ladderlog: ROUND_SCORE [](Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_ROUND_SCORE_TEAM: Write to ladderlog: ROUND_SCORE_TEAM (Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_ROUND_WINNER: Write to ladderlog: ROUND_WINNER (Default: 1 )
00:53 <nsh22> ladderlog_write_all 1
00:53 <nsh22> s:)
00:54 <smoothice> k
00:54 <smoothice> just as well
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01:01 <animuson> where are the access level names stored? like user_level 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 etc
01:04 <nsh22> setting_authentication
01:04 <nsh22> under config
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01:06 <animuson> thats just all the auth settings
01:07 <animuson> i want to change the names for the user levels
01:08 <nsh22> it should be there,
01:08 <smoothice> animuson: set all ur settings in settings_custon
01:09 <smoothice> settings_custom... don't bother with the rest of the files
01:09 <animuson> nvm i found it
01:09 <animuson> its in language/english_base_notranslate.txt
01:10 <smoothice> oh
01:10 <smoothice> I get what you’re saying
01:10 <nsh22> no
01:10 <smoothice> nevermind
01:10 <nsh22> http://rafb.net/p/Jthzl054.html
01:10 <nsh22> i think you just change those names
01:10 <smoothice> nope
01:10 <smoothice> they're in the language file
01:10 <nsh22> ...
01:10 <smoothice> that file
01:10 <smoothice> is just comments
01:11 <nsh22> damn
01:13 <nsh22> smooth, some ppl want some settings changed in df, can i do it?
01:13 <smoothice> what settings
01:14 <nsh22> rubber
01:14 <nsh22> they want it increased
01:14 <smoothice> 2009/03/06-00:13:26 CHAT purple neal change rubber to a littel more plz .can u ????
01:14 <smoothice> umm
01:14 <smoothice> there's plenty of rubber already...
01:14 <smoothice> more rubber is for noobs lol
01:14 <smoothice> I mean
01:14 <smoothice> go ahead and do whatever
01:14 <smoothice> but
01:14 <smoothice> once I restart it
01:14 <smoothice> It'll be back to NW df config
01:14 <nsh22> ok :P ty
01:19 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r903 Fixed grind and split a bit.... || [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r902 Taught them not to do a couple of stupid things....
01:28 <animuson> how can i echo a command to the console from the source code?
01:31 <smoothice> animuson: sn_ConsoleOut?
01:31 <smoothice> question mark accidental)
01:36 <nsh22> smoothice: forums not working?
01:36 <smoothice> ???
01:36 <nsh22> try to get on our forums
01:38 <animuson> how can i echo it as a command that needs to be run tho?
01:39 <cpayan> Seriously, what are you supposed to do when it seems like five desktops just isn't enough on your computer?
01:45 <cpayan> aren't*
01:45 <smoothice> animuson: In c++?
01:47 <animuson> whatever language arma uses
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01:52 <neal_arma> any1 care to kick nsh22 for me?
01:53 <animuson> is the default rgb for a deathzone 25 0 0?
01:54 <smoothice> 15 0 0
01:54 <smoothice> or in C++
01:54 <smoothice> 1.0f 0.0f 0.0f
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02:01 <ct|kyle> #m epsy I think you should add a client side colour string filter
02:01 <@armabot> ct|kyle: The operation succeeded.
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02:01 <neal_arma> wewt
02:01 -!- neal_arma is now known as nsh22
02:01 <ct|kyle> heh
02:02 <nsh22> my internet stopped working randomly so i had to restart comp
02:02 <ct|kyle> mine goes out about 1 time each day
02:02 <nsh22> ew
02:02 <ct|kyle> and it is wired
02:02 <nsh22> miunes about 1nce a month, if that
02:02 <nsh22> wired as well
02:03 <ct|kyle> but only for about 5-10 seconds
02:03 <smoothice> ct
02:03 <smoothice> ct|kyle: you have verizon dsl
02:03 <smoothice> ct|kyle: which is epic fail
02:03 <ct|kyle> smoothice: yes but really the only thing in the area
02:03 <smoothice> get FiOS?
02:04 <ct|kyle> it takes forever to get parents to switch
02:04 <smoothice> oh lol
02:04 <smoothice> what speed dls?
02:04 <smoothice> dsl
02:04 <ct|kyle> it took me 2-3 years just for them to switch to DSL from AOL
02:04 <ct|kyle> I get about 3.5 up and 1 down
02:05 <smoothice> I get 12 down and 768 up :D
02:05 <smoothice> I love fttn :P
02:05 <ct|kyle> heh
02:05 <smoothice> #g fttn
02:05 <@armabot> smoothice: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
02:05 <smoothice> #google fttn
02:05 <smoothice> @g fttn
02:05 <@armabot> smoothice: Search took 0.12 seconds: Fiber to the x - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FTTH>; FTTN Definition - PC Magazine: <http://www.pcmag.com/encyclopedia_term/0,2542,t=FTTN&i=43550,00.asp>; Light Reading - Broadband - AT&T: We're Sticking With FTTN - Telecom: <http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=107939>; Lightwave - FTTN : The 'other' fiber (3 more messages)
02:05 <teabot> smoothice: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FTTH - Fiber to the x - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
02:05 <ct|kyle> Fios to the neeiborhood
02:06 <smoothice> fiber
02:06 <smoothice> fiber to the neighboord
02:06 <smoothice> lol
02:06 <ct|kyle> actually we have it to the boxes next to ours just not from the ones next to our to ours
02:07 <smoothice> english please?
02:07 <smoothice> lol
02:07 <ct|kyle> they cut our line when the put it in
02:07 <smoothice> fail?
02:07 <ct|kyle> they put fios to the boxes on each side of ours
02:07 <nsh22> haha
02:07 <nsh22> sucks
02:07 <ct|kyle> but never ran it from those boxes to ours
02:07 <nsh22> EPIC FAIL
02:08 <smoothice> fail....
02:08 <smoothice> ll
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02:25 <smoothice> #m z-man the fortress AI bot dies after about 20 seconds on the grid in its zone :D
02:25 <@armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
02:26 <luke-jr> hm
02:26 <smoothice> ?
02:27 <smoothice> lol
02:27 <smoothice> hm = ?
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02:31 <luke-jr> grr, why is [eg]Floor not a netobject ☹
02:33 <nsh22> i dont knowq luke, why isnt it?
02:40 * nsh22 is so happy
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03:01 <ct|kyle> oi sinewav
03:02 <sinewav> hey man, what's up?
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03:06 <ct|kyle> not too much
03:07 <sinewav> yeah, me either. Workin' a lot, which is good.
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03:16 <smoothice> luke-jr, ct|kyle: FYI, the new Fortress AI is sooo freaking cool!
03:17 <luke-jr> good for you
03:17 <luke-jr> don't highlight me for no reason
03:17 <ct|kyle> ok luke-jr :P
03:17 <smoothice> luke-jr: just telling you it's cool!
03:18 <ct|kyle> smoothice: I still gotta try it, is it in 0.2.8 or 0.3.*
03:18 <smoothice> 0.3
03:18 <smoothice> I have a server up
03:18 <smoothice> wanna see?
03:18 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: everything is 0.3.*
03:18 <smoothice> hey
03:18 <smoothice> don't highlight for no reason
03:18 <ct|kyle> smoothice: how is the flag zone
03:18 <smoothice> ct|kyle: It won't do anything
03:19 <smoothice> and I cannot figure out why
03:19 <ct|kyle> probably because you need the last 2 lines of zfoirtress.h in zFlag.h (I think)
03:19 <smoothice> ok
03:19 <ct|kyle> zFortress.h*
03:24 <smoothice> ct|kyle: cool, eh?
03:24 <ct|kyle> except for the bug
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03:44 <luke-jr> smoothice: guess what I was workign on
03:49 <smoothice> luke-jr: zv2sty?
03:49 <luke-jr> no
03:49 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: is it what your brought up earlier
03:49 <luke-jr> ?
03:50 <smoothice> luke-jr: fort ai?
03:50 <luke-jr> no
03:50 <ct|kyle> the recognizers
03:50 <luke-jr> not quite
03:50 <luke-jr> I think that's over my head
03:50 <ct|kyle> the modoling stuff for them :P
03:51 <luke-jr> I think that's over my head
03:51 <ct|kyle> then wtf are you working on
03:51 <ct|kyle> rthe cube
03:51 <luke-jr> figure it out
03:51 <ct|kyle> 3d
03:51 <luke-jr> try again
03:52 <smoothice> tell us luke-jr
03:52 <luke-jr> figure it out :p
03:52 <ct|kyle> flying zones
03:52 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: that's been done for days
03:52 <ct|kyle> 3d zones
03:52 <luke-jr> …
03:53 <ct|kyle> ok just tell us
03:53 <smoothice> luke-jr: working on your attitude?
03:53 <smoothice> lol
03:53 <luke-jr> check LP
03:53 <smoothice> map-floor-texture?
03:53 <luke-jr> :p
03:53 <smoothice> why do we care?
03:54 <ct|kyle> could be cool to package a floor texture with a map
03:54 <luke-jr> like the new fort texture
03:54 <ct|kyle> or sinewav's ctf one
03:55 <ct|kyle> or the styball one
03:55 <ct|kyle> along with ram walls
03:56 <smoothice> ct|kyle: what did you say I needed from zFortress.h? REAL lastSync_?
03:56 <ct|kyle> I think so
03:56 <smoothice> ummm
03:56 <smoothice> why does that matter?
03:57 <ct|kyle> I was actually just taking a look at the code now LOL
03:57 <smoothice> I hope we can get this fixed...
03:58 <luke-jr> smoothice: remember, I expect something like sty to take a few rewrites before it works well
03:58 <luke-jr> so don't get discouraged!
03:58 <smoothice> ok
03:58 <smoothice> I'm just kinda feeling like a fail
03:58 <smoothice> since I cannot figure out why the zone doesn't respond
04:01 <luke-jr> smoothice: think of how I just started 2 or 3 goals that I'm stuck on ☺
04:01 <smoothice> lol
04:01 <smoothice> but
04:01 <smoothice> the thing is
04:01 <smoothice> if you just looked at my code for a brief moment
04:01 <smoothice> you'd probably figure it out
04:02 <ct|kyle> that is all I've done also
04:03 <ct|kyle> I really should start a sty zones v2 testing server
04:03 <smoothice> it doesn't even work yet
04:03 <smoothice> -.-
04:03 <smoothice> the frickin zone doesn't respond!
04:03 <ct|kyle> ya less work for me to do in the long run
04:04 <smoothice> luke-jr: can you glance at the code for a moment again? if it makes you feel superior I'm a dumbass
04:04 <luke-jr> lolwut
04:04 <luke-jr> busy
04:04 <smoothice> again? :(
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04:05 <luke-jr> yeh
04:05 <luke-jr> playing glob2
04:05 <smoothice> :'(
04:05 <smoothice> dude
04:05 <smoothice> you say you'd mentor me through this process
04:05 <smoothice> said*
04:05 <luke-jr> yeh
04:05 <luke-jr> not 24/7 tho
04:05 <ct|kyle> is onInside the new onentry
04:05 <luke-jr> no
04:05 <ct|kyle> er OnEnter?
04:05 <luke-jr> they are different funcs
04:06 <luke-jr> yeah
04:06 <luke-jr> OnEnter -> OnInside
04:06 <ct|kyle> ok
04:06 <smoothice> luke-jr: well when are you available?
04:06 <ct|kyle> I think I know problem number 1
04:06 <smoothice> :D!!!!
04:06 <ct|kyle> wait nm
04:06 <smoothice> :(!!!
04:06 <smoothice> :(
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04:10 <ct|kyle> wow, I think I've used too much python lately I wanted to put a # as a comment
04:10 <smoothice> any luck ct|kyle?
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04:24 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-map-floor-texture] r891 not quite working map floor texture support
04:46 <smoothice> luke-jr: http://rafb.net/p/27gsq964.html
04:47 <smoothice> luke-jr: that's on bootstrap.sh run
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05:02 <sinewav> anyone for CTF with fort physics?
05:04 <ct|kyle> sinewav: can you send me that config :)
05:05 <ct|kyle> it would be a nice test map/settings
05:07 <sinewav> which one? flag fort?
05:07 <ct|kyle> ya
05:08 <sinewav> lemme look fer it.
05:09 <ct|kyle> sinewav: nevermind
05:09 <sinewav> wha.
05:09 <ct|kyle> sinewav: I found e-mail from before
05:09 <sinewav> kk
05:10 <sinewav> Imma post it on the forums anyway. just in case I lose it.
05:10 <ct|kyle> want me to just send it back to you
05:13 <sinewav> too late!
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07:15 <cpayan> I must declare, Zombie-enabled sumo is pretty neat
07:15 <cpayan> I don't think control of the zombie would really gain anything
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07:41 <Lucifer> anybody know a food that starts with d?
07:41 <Lucifer> besides "dead meat"
07:42 <cpayan> duck
07:43 <mkzelda> dick
07:43 <cpayan> classy
07:43 <mkzelda> http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080109194130AAm6Myq
07:45 <Lucifer> duck! Why didn't I think of that
07:45 <mkzelda> b/c you were busy thinking about dick? :D
07:45 <Lucifer> I put Dried beef
07:47 <Red_Pachel[home]> dumplings!
07:48 <Lucifer> I'm getting hungry reading that thread, I need to cook dinner soon
07:48 * Lucifer wonders what he's going to eat tonight, since he just went grocery shopping
07:49 <Red_Pachel[home]> i suppose that's better than wonder what to eat since you HAVENT been grocery shopping
07:51 <Lucifer> that's right, keep looking on the bright side
07:51 <Lucifer> I think I'll do a little stir-fry with chicken, jalapenos, and green chiles
07:51 <Lucifer> I just have to debone chicken for that :)
07:52 * Lucifer got thighs at 0.99/lb
07:52 <Lucifer> but it means I have to debone them every time I use them, because I cook and eat primarily chinese stir-fry
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15:30 <smoothice> ct|kyle: you didn't push the color fix yet?
15:30 <smoothice> ct|kyle: now you did as of two seconds ago :)
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15:53 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r875 Making colors work
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16:29 <z-man> Hahaha. Only server not available with 0.2.8.2.1: Global Players OLD SCHOOL SERVER.
16:29 <BabyBug> z-man, is that fortress ai branch meant to work atm? =x
16:30 <z-man> Depends how you define 'work'.
16:30 <z-man> It compiles, and the bots don't suicide for a couple of seconds.
16:30 <guru3> i don't want to change
16:30 <z-man> I realized I need a better AI framework in general, so I'm building that.
16:31 <BabyBug> they suicide straight away here, heh =x
16:31 <guru3> i know where everything is on the forums
16:31 <guru3> i don't want to move things and delete things
16:31 <z-man> BabyBug: they do?
16:31 <BabyBug> who said about moving things?
16:31 <z-man> All those
16:31 <z-man> few words per line
16:31 <BabyBug> z-man, in a team of 8, about 3 suicide at the start
16:31 <z-man> community building
16:31 <z-man> tossers.
16:31 <BabyBug> and none of em grind :(
16:32 <z-man> Really? They should.
16:32 <z-man> Are you up to date?
16:32 * z-man wonders whether he pushed last night's work
16:32 <dlh> z-man: http://rafb.net/p/cn8NBr47.html ← won't that just make the bot turn right into itself?
16:32 <BabyBug> well, position 2 and 3 turn around and grind backwards =x
16:32 <BabyBug> yup i'm up to date
16:32 <z-man> ah, then I forgot to push something up. I fixed that.
16:32 <guru3> i'd be willing to update to phpbb3
16:33 <z-man> dlh: yes ;) but the next AI step will correct it.
16:33 <z-man> (but I'm going to remove it anyway.)
16:33 <guru3> and the background colors do NOT change
16:33 <guru3> i GUARENTEE it
16:33 <BabyBug> guru3, talk sense! =P
16:33 <guru3> first, there are no background colors
16:34 <guru3> " On each page, the colors change, the fonts change, the backgrounds chang"
16:34 <guru3> maybe on each site
16:34 <guru3> each page across each site is identical though
16:35 <guru3> and this may be biased, but there'll be links to facebook and twitter over my dead body
16:35 <z-man> \o/
16:36 <z-man> We should totally get a myspace profile.
16:36 <guru3> no myspace either
16:36 <guru3> a friend of mine mentioned an opensource twitter like app
16:36 <guru3> i might be convinced to set something up with that
16:36 <guru3> same with jabber
16:37 <z-man> For such a youg guy, you're incredibly old and grumpy :)
16:37 <guru3> i don't approve of social networking sites
16:37 <guru3> RAWR
16:38 <z-man> (but yeah, I'd rather be without facestalk and twitter and blogs, while we're at it.)
16:38 <guru3> motion carried then
16:38 <guru3> (except for the blog bit)
16:38 <guru3> (that may actually be a good idea)
16:38 <z-man> It depends. I'm kind of reading all of the forums as blogs, partly.
16:39 * z-man heavily uses the 'view unread posts' page.
16:39 <guru3> i only use that -_-
16:39 <guru3> that's why it's at the top
16:39 <z-man> But that feature requires you to have an account.
16:39 <guru3> right above logout
16:39 <guru3> there are a lot of accounts that have 0 posts and don't appear to be spammers
16:40 <z-man> Yeah, I do that on other forums at times, too: get an account just so I can use the 'what's new' search.
16:40 <z-man> phpbb can publish RSS feeds of subforums, I think.
16:40 <guru3> i don't think our phpbb can
16:41 <guru3> really should upgrade to phpbb3
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16:48 <BabyBug> Why haven't you?
16:48 <guru3> template :/
16:49 <BabyBug> phpbb3 looks nice at it is :@ =x
16:49 <guru3> me wants armagetron theme
16:50 <BabyBug> an arma banner isn't enough? =P
16:50 <guru3> it was back in the day
16:50 <guru3> i could bring it back
16:50 <guru3> but it does look a bit shit
16:50 <guru3> let me find it
16:51 <BabyBug> =)
16:51 <guru3> if i can -_-
16:51 <BabyBug> =.=
16:51 <guru3> where would it have gotten to i wonder...
16:53 <guru3> actually
16:53 <BabyBug> men suck at organizing...
16:53 <guru3> this looks even worse than i remember
16:54 <BabyBug> link?
16:54 <guru3> http://guru3.net/temp/aflogo3.gif
16:55 <BabyBug> wtf? lol
16:55 <guru3> that whent in place of the phpbb logo
16:55 <guru3> made with redhat 9
16:55 <guru3> back when i was still really learning linux
16:55 <guru3> and before armagetron advanced
16:55 <BabyBug> Defiantly seen better... =x But why don't you see make a phpbb3 template then?
16:56 <guru3> i don't think z-man even ever saw that
16:56 <guru3> i don't know how
16:56 <BabyBug> oh..
16:56 <guru3> i didn't make the template we use
16:56 <guru3> i prettu much suck i pretty much suck at design, if you didn't notice already ;)
16:56 <guru3> *pretty
16:56 <guru3> we're pretty unique as a community
16:57 <BabyBug> who did the template you use now? =)
16:57 <guru3> says at the bottom
16:57 <guru3> lackadaisical
16:57 <BabyBug> oo
16:57 <BabyBug> poke him to make a new one ^^
16:57 <guru3> need to make sure it's possible to upgrade to phpbb3 first
16:58 <BabyBug> why wouldn't it be?
16:58 <guru3> we do have phpbb2 mods installed
16:58 <guru3> attachment mod, category/heirarchy mod, flag mod
16:58 <BabyBug> and that stupid post count mod..
16:58 <BabyBug> get rid of that if you upgrade! :@
16:58 <BabyBug> what's wrong with normal numbers?
16:58 <guru3> that doesn't really count as a mod
16:59 <guru3> i just hacked that in
16:59 <BabyBug> It's still a modification to the original :P
16:59 <BabyBug> a very horrible modification at that
16:59 <guru3> i like it
16:59 <guru3> we're really very flexible
16:59 <guru3> (the armagetron community)
16:59 <BabyBug> not everyone's a nerd! =P
17:00 <guru3> we don't have any tyrannic people
17:00 <BabyBug> tyrannic?
17:00 <guru3> i don't ban people for no reason
17:00 <guru3> that sort of thing
17:00 <guru3> and we have a wide diversity of people
17:00 <BabyBug> you have no fun =(
17:00 <guru3> and a high % of normal people
17:00 <guru3> which means that no one thinks like a small opensource group on our forums
17:01 <guru3> everyone thinks internet 2.0
17:03 <BabyBug> I can't see how mods would stop you upgrading though...
17:03 <guru3> the modify the database
17:03 <guru3> *they
17:03 <guru3> which means it's no longer looking like what the upgrade script expects
17:04 <BabyBug> they only add to the database though don't they? so wouldn't the upgrade thingy just ignore then? or not that simple? if it's not, it should be!
17:04 <guru3> it's not
17:04 <guru3> just isn't
17:04 <guru3> tough shit
17:04 <guru3> i feel depressed now
17:04 <guru3> intellectually kamp makes good points
17:04 <guru3> never gonna happen :/
17:05 <BabyBug> lol O.o?
17:05 <guru3> people aren't thinking small garage community
17:05 <guru3> people are thinking corporation
17:06 <guru3> internet 2.0 sites with themes across different software solutions with high visibility options and all that jazz are great
17:06 <guru3> if you're fortune 500
17:07 <z-man> #m smoothice it's frigging work in progress :)
17:07 <@armabot> z-man: The operation succeeded.
17:07 <BabyBug> random? :|
17:08 <z-man> #m ct|kyle is the sty branch up to date? I thought I fixed that bug on Trunk a while ago.
17:08 <@armabot> z-man: The operation succeeded.
17:08 <z-man> no, reacting do days old #ms.
17:08 <BabyBug> oh...
17:08 <guru3> anyone know what happend to armagetron.de?
17:09 <epsy> z-man, I don't think phpbb does that
17:09 <dlh> armagetronad.de ?
17:09 <guru3> ah
17:10 <guru3> didn't know they changed
17:11 <guru3> z-man: do you feel it's really necessary to promote armagetron to everyone on earth?
17:11 <epsy> yeah, no single RSS feed
17:11 <epsy> not on main page, not on a forum, not in a thread
17:11 <z-man> guru3: nope.
17:11 <guru3> that's my feeling
17:11 <epsy> and phpbb is a bitch to style
17:11 <BabyBug> you should promote it!
17:11 <BabyBug> promoting = win win
17:11 <guru3> that's the average consumer point of view
17:11 <z-man> No, not for our development model
17:12 <epsy> promoting when not ready = HUDE FAIL
17:12 <z-man> which is 'do work as you have time'
17:12 <epsy> and when I say HUDE I mean HUGZ
17:12 <z-man> we NEED a steady influx of new players.
17:12 <epsy> and when I say HUGZ I mean HUGE
17:12 <epsy> and maybe i'll stop with the typos now
17:13 <epsy> ct|kyle, there are
17:13 <epsy> ct|kyle, but they can't work
17:13 <epsy> [properly]
17:13 <guru3> how much of an influx?
17:13 <guru3> x players per week?
17:13 <BabyBug> and why steady?
17:14 <BabyBug> and couldn't more players mean more developers? =)...So alot would be good? ^^
17:14 <guru3> we average about 1 new forum user a day
17:14 <guru3> BabyBug: armagetron players are normal people
17:15 <epsy> BabyBug, well, it's not up to us to make them shine all over the world when we don't even know about them
17:15 <BabyBug> have you played armagetron lately? :P
17:15 <BabyBug> they're anything but normal :P
17:15 <epsy> we've seen that BabyBug
17:15 <epsy> :D
17:16 <epsy> did anyone implement the color codes documented in that protobuf thread?
17:18 <BabyBug> epsy, not your concern...eevents is! :@
17:19 <epsy> wouldn't it be more logical to have \c{colouraa}{textincolor} ?
17:27 <guru3> maybe i should reactivate subsilver
17:27 <guru3> just to make people appreciate the current design
17:32 <BabyBug> maybe you should
17:32 <BabyBug> and then when you upgrade to phpbb3 from that, it'll look so much nicer 8-)
17:33 <guru3> than the current design?
17:34 <BabyBug> well imo, yes. But if you have subsilver as normal....It'll look even nicer again!
17:34 <epsy> phpbb sucks, get over it >.>
17:34 <epsy> are we gonna stay with prosilver for 5 years if we upgrade?
17:35 <BabyBug> i vote yes!
17:35 <BabyBug> and it's "when" not "if"
17:35 <epsy> phpbb2 -> phpbb3 is not worth the themeing work that's required for phpbb
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17:56 <BabyBug> oooooooooooooo
17:58 <guru3> firefox is using 110% cpu
17:58 <guru3> goddamn flash
18:16 <epsy> goddamn flash indeed
18:16 <epsy> makes firefox suck had
18:16 <epsy> hard *
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19:05 <akira_arma> #tea
19:05 <@armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
19:06 <akira_arma> :(
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19:08 <arrow> hi
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20:08 <ivantis2> #ping
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20:08 <@armabot> pong
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20:24 <akira_arma> #tea
20:24 <@armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
20:24 <akira_arma> !"§$ you bot
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20:46 <Lizmatic> BYE
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21:06 * Lucifer considers giving an arma theme in phpbb3 a try
21:06 * Lucifer thinks he can design web pages, just can't do fancy graphics
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21:12 * BabyBug agrees!
21:23 <ct|kyle> z-man: I updarted my client and that took care of the problem
21:23 <z-man> goody
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21:25 <ct|kyle> epsy: make them work :)
21:27 <epsy> I'll suppose them means ct|kyle
21:27 <epsy> ct|kyle: WORK NOW!
21:28 <epsy> Lucifer, don't forget to give up and screw phpbb forever :)
21:29 <epsy> #last --from epsy --with ct|kyle --nolimit
21:29 <@armabot> epsy: [21:27:25] <epsy> ct|kyle: WORK NOW!, [21:27:14] <epsy> I'll suppose them means ct|kyle, [17:13:08] <epsy> ct|kyle, but they can't work, and [17:13:03] <epsy> ct|kyle, there are
21:29 <epsy> ct|kyle, needs the client to know stuff is chat, and what part is the actual char
21:29 <epsy> chat *
21:29 <epsy> that means eEvent
21:29 <BabyBug> \o/
21:30 * ct|kyle stabs BabyBug
21:32 <BabyBug> ...
21:32 <BabyBug> I've been nice ALL day....and then you have to go stab me
21:32 <BabyBug> THAT'S NOT NICE!!
21:32 <epsy> you just failed BabyBug
21:33 <BabyBug> epsy, go fuck a duck
21:33 <epsy> quaaaaaack
21:33 <BabyBug> z-man is the only nice person in this place!!
21:33 <z-man> Only because I'm too lazy to be mean.
21:33 * BabyBug face palms
21:33 <epsy> we love you BabyBug :D
21:34 <BabyBug> ^^
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21:35 <epsy> baaah, automake time
21:35 * epsy scratches head
21:35 <BabyBug> change to scons!
21:35 <epsy> I'm considering something like that
21:36 <BabyBug> and why doesn't anyone make .deb files here?
21:36 <epsy> because that would mean so much work getting inside the inners of automake
21:36 <epsy> and it wouldn't work on anything else than linux & bsd
21:37 <epsy> BabyBug, because it's boring to do
21:37 <BabyBug> why is it?
21:37 <epsy> well, try making a deb package yourself
21:37 <BabyBug> i have!
21:37 <epsy> from scratch
21:37 <BabyBug> define from scratch
21:38 <epsy> ie. you just downloaded software X and you want to make a .deb package out of it
21:38 <BabyBug> you mean...starting with dh_make?
21:38 <BabyBug> yeh
21:38 <BabyBug> easy!
21:38 <BabyBug> well not easy
21:38 <BabyBug> but not boring!
21:38 <epsy> umm..ok?
21:39 <epsy> z-man, basically, our Makefiles just build what's listed in src/Makefile.am&co, then link it into packages, then link it into a binary?
21:39 <epsy> or is there more?
21:40 <z-man> there's all kind of crap.
21:40 <z-man> make the changelog
21:40 <z-man> sort the resources
21:40 <z-man> run the program to build the command list
21:41 <z-man> But for the build of the executable, I guess you have the bits.
21:41 <epsy> ok, I'll try to start with this then
21:41 <BabyBug> Who first started arma? =)
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21:41 <epsy> Mr. Z-Man itself
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21:42 <BabyBug> itself? lol
21:42 <epsy> I seem to like that word
21:42 <BabyBug> how rude! :P
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22:07 <epsy> ok, I got it to write empty makefiles! :)
22:08 <BabyBug> yay? =)
22:13 * BabyBug wonders if the AI's will be able to torpedo in fortress...
22:14 <akira_arma> #tea
22:14 <@armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (9/32): CT_emmy, ct|Puuquie, rope, Saint George, silverdoor, sithy (Sithy@forums), ]i[ 2020, ¦×¦ PlayerNuby, °höMö
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22:38 <BabyBug> #servers
22:38 <@armabot> BabyBug: This data is 13 seconds old; - | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | - (15/16), |FA| Black Ice! (9/16), Wild West =Capture The Flag= (9/10), Fortress Café (9/32), Afrothunder's High Rubber (8/10), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (8/12), {Delicious Desserts} Racing II (7/14), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (7/12), |FA| Black Tar! (6/16), SPACEZONE I [HIGH SPEED!!] (6/8), (2 more messages)
22:41 <z-man> Is there a word yet for the left-right-right-right combination that lets you reverse in tight spots when you're close to the wrong wall?
22:41 <epsy> just camping space?
22:42 <epsy> I don't have a word for that specific move, however
22:42 <epsy> oh
22:42 <epsy> inverted double back, perhaps
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22:43 <BabyBug> 360 rolls off the tongue easier 8-)
22:43 <epsy> hmm now I wonder how I am going to generate stuff that was generated by configure
22:46 <Concord> #si cafe
22:47 <@armabot> Concord: Fortress Café: Players (11/32): -»|a, 135347325z43t, 2020, AFK-47 (Sithy@forums), akira, ct|Puuquie, free kill (dlh@generalconsumption.org), Jasper (Van-hayes@forums), PlayerNuby (PlayerNub@x/member), rope, si][ty
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22:57 <BabyBug> Is it by design? or by bug....That if you host a lan game from the client....commands like /me doesn't work?
22:57 <BabyBug> it just prints "/me"
22:57 <epsy> on 0.2.8 ?
22:57 <BabyBug> trunk
22:58 <epsy> bug, I'd say
22:58 <BabyBug> okies =)
23:00 <PinkTomato> I thought it was a keyboard thing
23:02 <PinkTomato> Hmm, oh that was the default console key did not work on this PC I was using. I think it affects 0.2.8.2 as well.
23:03 <PinkTomato> affects the beta for me at least
23:03 <BabyBug> oopsie, reported the bug on the wrong account >.<
23:04 <epsy> Richie?
23:04 <epsy> welshdragon! :D
23:04 <BabyBug> ex-fiance as of a couple of days ago =x
23:05 <PinkTomato> aww :(
23:06 <epsy> Well, I know I'm living in antartica, but .. is he right in front of a Castle?
23:06 <epsy> and of a motorway, as well :S
23:07 <BabyBug> lol what?
23:07 <epsy> https://launchpad.net/~welshdragon
23:08 <PinkTomato> epsy: motorways are blue in the UK :)
23:08 <BabyBug> lol
23:08 <PinkTomato> and wales has hardly any, which I have not noticed before
23:08 <epsy> well, cute village O_o
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23:09 <BabyBug> Hrmm, that's a town, the wrong town at that =P
23:09 <PinkTomato> That's a town o_O?
23:09 <PinkTomato> What do you call a village?
23:10 <BabyBug> *zooms in more*
23:10 <BabyBug> Oh wait no that's a village ^^
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23:10 <BabyBug> still the wrong village though xD
23:11 <BabyBug> epsy, you talk to him?
23:12 <epsy> who?
23:12 <BabyBug> You said "welshdragon!" as if you knew him =)
23:12 <epsy> just a kinky nickname heh
23:12 <BabyBug> :|
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23:14 <BabyBug> you know, someone could be nice and confirm the bug =)
23:14 <PinkTomato> I did ^_^
23:14 <PinkTomato> ish
23:14 <epsy> can't check right now
23:14 <BabyBug> i meant on lp silly =P
23:15 <ivantis2> hahaha
23:15 <ivantis2> i havent read that one in a while
23:15 <ivantis2> http://xkcd.com/364/
23:15 <epsy> can't QA do confirm bugs already?
23:15 <BabyBug> anyone can do confirm bugs!
23:15 <BabyBug> can't triage though =x
23:15 <PinkTomato> then BabyBug can confirm bugs
23:15 <PinkTomato> as BabyBug is part of everyone ^_^
23:15 <BabyBug> it feels naughty confirming ones own bug
23:15 <epsy> except if the bugs are too arrogant
23:16 <epsy> "No you're only a BABY bug, go away now"
23:16 <ivantis2> man, this feels like old times in irc
23:16 <BabyBug> but i'm sexy =(
23:17 <BabyBug> i don't wanna go away!
23:17 <ivantis2> you people may not realize it, but...
23:17 <ivantis2> oh man i forgot what i was going to say as i typed that
23:19 <BabyBug> can i just kick him? (A)
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23:20 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: Do I just comment confirmed? Or do you need a project admin?
23:20 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, under status
23:20 <epsy> BabyBug, no MSN smileys here please
23:20 <BabyBug> Where it says New
23:20 <BabyBug> Click that
23:20 <BabyBug> Then change the drop down box to confirmed
23:20 <epsy> O:-) just does way better
23:20 <BabyBug> epsy...
23:20 <ivantis2> oh right
23:20 <BabyBug> SHH!!
23:21 <ivantis2> this channel wouldnt be the same
23:21 <ivantis2> if it werent for everyone here
23:21 <epsy> MSN smileys ftl! :s
23:21 <ivantis2> the size is right, like 30 to 50 people
23:21 <ivantis2> the environment
23:21 <ivantis2> the off-topicness
23:21 <ivantis2> the geek-tasticness
23:21 <BabyBug> #
23:21 <BabyBug> oops =x
23:22 <ivantis2> the people
23:22 <PinkTomato> oops, forgot to say beta and no comment delete or edit
23:22 <BabyBug> epsy, msn smileys are not ftl =( They look so cute!
23:22 <PinkTomato> but anyway, it's changed :)
23:22 -!- nsh22 [n=neal@bas3-barrie18-1176218557.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #armagetron
23:22 <nsh22> hey hey hey
23:22 <epsy> BabyBug, their text representation sucks
23:22 <BabyBug> epsy, your text representation sucks
23:22 <ivantis2> no geek-tasticness wasnt the right word
23:22 <ivantis2> nerdiness! thats it
23:23 <nsh22> whats better, geek or nerd
23:23 <epsy> who understands (A) ?
23:23 <epsy> who understands O:-) ?
23:23 <ivantis2> ...that has nothing to do with it
23:23 <nsh22> its an angel
23:23 <BabyBug> epsy, you obviously understood (A)
23:23 <BabyBug> A for ANGELLLL
23:23 <ivantis2> wtf is this (A)?
23:23 <epsy> BabyBug, because I didn't understand it so many times
23:23 <PinkTomato> I thought (A) was accept, sorry BabyBug!
23:24 <ivantis2> oh angel
23:24 * BabyBug face palms the desk
23:24 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, you let me down ='(
23:24 <BabyBug> My Lisa would know it's an angel! :@
23:24 <ivantis2> wheres kyle?
23:25 <ivantis2> this seems like an epsy, nsh22, ct|kyle, BabyBug, ivantis[2], PinkTomato conversation
23:25 <nsh22> :P isnt it always :P
23:25 <ivantis2> :?
23:25 <nsh22> here comes the metal meltdown! right before your eyes
23:25 <nsh22> !!!!
23:25 <PinkTomato> ivantis2: why aren't you ivantis?
23:25 <ivantis2> did that pi show up?
23:25 <ivantis2> no idea
23:25 <ivantis2> oh on this client ivantis2 is default
23:26 <ivantis2> why do i no longer run xchat on my other computer?
23:26 <ivantis2> i havent been to the basement where it is for ages...
23:26 <ivantis2> vnc and ssh sustain to do everything on it
23:26 <ivantis2> er, suffice is a better word for that
23:26 <BabyBug> ivantis2, ever thought of doing something besides babble?
23:27 <ivantis2> no
23:27 <BabyBug> come back when you have!
23:27 -!- ivantis2 is now known as ivantis
23:27 <ivantis> thats dumb
23:27 <ivantis> to nick change you need to set -e
23:28 <ivantis> well it kind of makes sense, because it would look like you were using a registered nick if you changed to an unregistered one
23:28 <@armabot> lpbugs: [338969] /commands do not work when hosting a lan game <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/338969>
23:28 <ivantis> i wonder what kind of socks i should wear today
23:28 <BabyBug> FIX NOW!
23:28 <epsy> ...
23:28 <ivantis> #fix bug->latest
23:29 <ivantis> that is a duh!
23:29 <BabyBug> #kick ivantis you're a duh.....brain!
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23:29 <ivantis> /commands never work when hosting with a client
23:29 <nsh22> lol
23:30 <PinkTomato> ivantis: hence bug repoty :)
23:30 <ivantis> its not a bug
23:30 <luke-jr> it is a bug
23:30 <BabyBug> of course it's a bug
23:30 <ivantis> just the code for commands is not in client
23:30 <BabyBug> so it's a bug...
23:30 <PinkTomato> ivantis: it is in the client
23:30 <PinkTomato> isn't it?
23:31 <luke-jr> ivantis: then that is the *reason* for the bug
23:31 <luke-jr> at least /me should work
23:31 <ivantis> no
23:31 <ivantis> i recall none of those working
23:31 <ivantis> /commands only work on dedicated
23:32 <BabyBug> ivantis, actually, if another client connects to the LAN game, /commands work fine
23:32 <BabyBug> It's only the client hosting, that the /commands don't work for
23:32 <luke-jr> ivantis: that's called a BUG
23:33 <ivantis> really? i never knode that
23:33 <nsh22> thats cuz ur dumb, lol jk
23:34 <ivantis> whatever. im no expert, i havent read all of the code or tried every little thing
23:34 <epsy> http://www.codesimplicity.com/archives/35
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23:34 <epsy> now stop wasting our time explaining you what a bug is
23:34 <BabyBug> yay he left!
23:34 <epsy> thanks
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23:34 <nsh22> damn
23:34 <BabyBug> ...
23:34 <epsy> [00:34] <epsy>: http://www.codesimplicity.com/archives/35
23:34 <epsy> [00:34] <epsy>: now stop wasting our time explaining you what a bug is
23:34 <ivantis2> damm this irc client
23:35 <nsh22> see, even it hates you :P
23:35 <ivantis2> now i will leave
23:35 <ivantis2> my sister wants to play some online game on this computer
23:35 <BabyBug> we don't care! just fuck off!
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23:35 <BabyBug> ty!
23:36 <nsh22> lol
23:36 <nsh22> wanna quote that?
23:36 <BabyBug> no
23:36 <nsh22> #quote add
23:36 <@armabot> nsh22: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
23:36 <epsy> quote what?
23:36 * BabyBug is grouchy cause she lacks sleep
23:36 <epsy> /mode BabyBug +a
23:37 <nsh22> epsy: <BabyBug> we don't care! just fuck off!
23:37 <BabyBug> what does that do?
23:37 <nsh22> im gonna quote trhat :P
23:37 <epsy> I don't know
23:37 <BabyBug> Unknown Mode Flag
23:37 <BabyBug> :P
23:37 <epsy> probably nothing
23:37 <epsy> but it means me setting you on /away
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23:37 <nsh22> #quote add
23:37 <@armabot> nsh22: (quote add [<channel>] <text>) -- Adds <text> to the $type database for <channel>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
23:37 <BabyBug> i guess i shouldn't type things in when i don't know what they do =)
23:38 <epsy> yeah, especially on irc
23:38 <nsh22> BabyBug: can i plz quote that?
23:38 <BabyBug> No.
23:38 <BabyBug> It's copyright me!
23:38 <nsh22> :(
23:38 <epsy> or on any network that tracks clonebots through traps
23:38 <nsh22> ???
23:38 <BabyBug> ok now you lost me
23:38 <nsh22> ditto
23:39 <BabyBug> pokemon! =D
23:39 <nsh22> ...
23:39 <BabyBug> wrtlprnft and ditto should become poke-lovers
23:39 <PinkTomato> how do you check someone is /away?
23:39 <nsh22> go to #anime for pokemon (it seems appropriate :P)
23:39 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, /whois name name
23:39 <BabyBug> you need the name twice i think
23:39 <epsy> PinkTomato, /whois name, even
23:39 <PinkTomato> nsh22: they won't like that.
23:39 <nsh22> or if you ise xchat their names are grey
23:39 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: epsy thanks :)
23:40 <nsh22> PinkTomato: :D
23:40 <epsy> nsh22, we don't want pokemon shit
23:40 <nsh22> ima start a yandere there
23:40 <nsh22> on anime?
23:40 <epsy> then start a yandere there and shut up
23:40 * nsh22 shuts up
23:40 <BabyBug> \o/
23:40 <epsy> this is a fucking lightcycle game, not a play-with-irc-bots game
23:41 <epsy> neither an anime portal
23:41 <BabyBug> z-man, how good are you planning(hoping) to make the AI for fortress?
23:41 <z-man> nooby noob level.
23:42 <BabyBug> capable of attacking?
23:42 <PinkTomato> isn't there a point where you could make it pretty hard?
23:42 <epsy> to be honest, I would just let someone else do it with modules
23:42 <PinkTomato> like the defense, could be done really precise so it would be impossible?
23:42 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, holing =)
23:43 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: AI suggests 1 player game :)
23:43 <BabyBug> well you could have AI on your team aswell
23:43 <BabyBug> To even them out
23:43 <PinkTomato> ah
23:43 <PinkTomato> of course :)
23:43 <PinkTomato> only the AI has to be smart enough to use a hole
23:43 <BabyBug> or...a dedi server, set up just for ai fortress aswell
23:44 <BabyBug> so anyone can join, and face the ai
23:44 <BabyBug> Of course, if it's only nooby noob level, that'd get boring quick
23:44 <epsy> or AIs vs AIs
23:45 <BabyBug> Hrmm...If the AI has a goal of getting inside a zone, wouldn't it naturally use a hole?
23:45 <BabyBug> Surely you wouldn't need to specifically say, go through a hole would you?
23:45 <epsy> they don't die so easily
23:46 <Lucifer> well, another interview on Friday
23:46 <BabyBug> \o/
23:46 <Lucifer> political group that's trying to save the environment :)
23:46 <nsh22> wewt
23:46 <nsh22> lol
23:46 <nsh22> what would you be doing with them
23:46 <Lucifer> beats me, but the girl I talked to sounded very interesting, so if I don't get the job, maybe I'll get a date
23:47 <epsy> haha
23:47 <BabyBug> be careful lucifer...Someone who's part of a political group here, just got green custard thrown in their face today
23:47 <nsh22> lol or if you get the job yoou may still have a date :P
23:47 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: A political group that stands for seats?
23:47 <Lucifer> she asked why I was interested in the job, and I told her I was a programmer that got taken out by the recession, and an avid bicyclist that wants to save the environment
23:48 <Lucifer> so I could kill two birds with one stone
23:48 <BabyBug> oooo i completely forgot amongst everything...Where you at with that php app luci?
23:49 <Lucifer> stalled, I went a direction I didn't like and have been focusing on job-hunting again
23:49 <BabyBug> oo =x
23:49 <PinkTomato> is that tourney.dave etc.?
23:49 <Lucifer> I'm considering taking my juggling balls down to the arboretum on Monday and seeing what kind of tips I could make
23:49 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, newp, something else
23:49 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: no, different app
23:49 <nsh22> you juggle?
23:49 <Lucifer> money management app
23:49 <Lucifer> nsh22: yes
23:49 <PinkTomato> oh right :)
23:49 <Lucifer> not very well, but yeah :)
23:49 <nsh22> how many at one time?
23:49 <BabyBug> video or it's not true luci :D
23:50 <Lucifer> 3 so far, because that's all I've got
23:50 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: is tourney. etc going to happen :)?
23:50 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: unlikely, I was working on that to learn my way around a toolkit for which I was about to be hired to work with, and didn't get the job
23:51 <PinkTomato> Oh right :(
23:51 <epsy> PinkTomato, you know I'd love to do it as well, but I want other things to be done first
23:51 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, weren't you doing that? :|
23:52 <nsh22> my site is being a retard and not loading...
23:52 <epsy> reatard website!
23:52 -!- MaZuffeR [n=mazuffer@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has quit ["Ex-Chat"]
23:53 <nsh22> yes
23:53 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: I was, I think I'll start it up again and do it properly hopefully :)
23:53 <BabyBug> a reatard? is that like a leotard?
23:53 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, bzr branch? make it easier for other people to chip in =)
23:53 <epsy> doing it properly implis, IMO, doing what I planned on doing before
23:53 <nsh22> no, thats a retards way of saying retard :P
23:53 <epsy> implies *
23:54 <BabyBug> epsy, what did you plan on doing before?
23:55 <epsy> modules is the main dep for this IMO
23:56 <epsy> but well, the team/player management part can still be done without that
23:56 <epsy> as optional comes my wonderful carpets, but let's lay that on later
23:58 <BabyBug> yay another commit \o/
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is a site that has tools, maps, and other various items. It orignally only existed as a server control panel, but I slowly began adding stuff such as a homepage and tools.
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This is an LLM-free zone. In general, I am unwilling to use (fight with) any form of "GenAI" to write code for me. So, for the forseeable future, everything on this site will continue to be written by a very silly goose (wait that's me honk honk) with some parts written by other humans as well (silly hu-mon) rather than any plausible-series-of-words token-eating machine. Even my libraries are out of date, and suddenly that's a good thing!
(Although the style has changed several times and content has been added and changed, the base of this site has barely been updated since 2015. But it Ain't Broke!)
This site is also occasionally tested with older browsers, but compatibility is not guarenteed. Although, if you have an old obscure browser and something isn't working that previously did, I guess you can tell me (nelg) about it...
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