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Log from 2009-03-06:
--- Day changed Fri Mar 06 2009
00:03 -!- nsh22 [n=neal@unaffiliated/nsh22] has joined #armagetron
00:03 <nsh22> hey hey hey
00:09 <ivantis2> faat albert
00:10 <ivantis2> #ls ntp
00:10 <@armabot> ivantis2: timed out
00:10 <ivantis2> #ls ivantis
00:10 -!- animuson [n=animuson@CM-204-193-203-61.omah.tconl.com] has joined #armagetron
00:10 <@armabot> ivantis2: ivantis has last been seen on Fortress Café 15 minutes ago.
00:10 <nsh22> #ls neal
00:11 <@armabot> nsh22: timed out
00:11 <nsh22> #weather innisfil
00:11 <@armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Innisfil, Innisfil, Ontario is 37.4°F (6:11 PM EST on March 05, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: 12.2°F. Windchill: 33.8°F. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Falling).
00:11 <nsh22> #ping
00:11 <@armabot> pong
00:12 <animuson> #weather 68138
00:12 <@armabot> animuson: The current temperature in Chalco Hills Rec Area, Omaha, Nebraska is 66.0°F (5:12 PM CST on March 05, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 46.4°F. Pressure: 29.53 in 999.9 hPa (Rising).
00:13 <ivantis2> #weather 66044
00:14 <@armabot> ivantis2: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 82.0°F (5:13 PM CST on March 05, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 26%. Dew Point: 44.6°F. Pressure: 29.58 in 1001.6 hPa (Steady).
00:14 <animuson> hey ivantis :)
00:14 <ivantis2> hey
00:14 <animuson> i was actually here to look for u but i forgot
00:14 <animuson> XD
00:14 <ivantis2> argh what am i doing?
00:14 <ivantis2> i need to get back to work
00:14 <ivantis2> but what did you want?
00:14 <animuson> is there a patch-type file that contains all the changes made by ur patch?
00:15 <ivantis2> you could generate one i suppose
00:15 <ivantis2> i dont have one
00:15 <animuson> are all the changes just in gWinZone.cpp and .h?
00:15 <ivantis2> no, many other files
00:15 <animuson> hmmm
00:16 <animuson> ill just install my stuff into ur version :P
00:16 <ivantis2> deep, deep in XML parsing, ePlayer.*, some other files too
00:16 <animuson> itd be easier
00:16 <animuson> do ur mods change anything or just add stuff?
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00:17 <ivantis2> both
00:18 -!- smoothice [n=smoothic@97-122-119-120.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #armagetron
00:19 <animuson> hey smoothice :)
00:19 <smoothice> hi
00:19 <ivantis2> hey smoothice
00:19 <nsh22> hiya smotth
00:19 <smoothice> lol hi
00:19  * nsh22 is away: 
00:19 <ivantis2> before i get asked any more questions, i need to get back to work though
00:19 <animuson> ur presence does not go unnoticed :P
00:19 <smoothice> lol
00:20 <animuson> occasionally
00:20 <animuson> ^_^
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00:21 <animuson> how do i copy files?
00:21 <smoothice> cp?
00:21 <ivantis2> that was the most vague question i have ever been asked
00:22 <animuson> lol
00:22 <animuson> cp "file path" "new file path"?
00:22 <ivantis2> yeah
00:22 <smoothice> #m epsy who the frick cares if you don't support CTF. It would just be a fun new project... -.-
00:22  * nsh22 is back (gone 00:02:51)
00:22 <@armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
00:22 <ivantis2> or scp
00:23 <ivantis2> scp [user][@host:]file [user][@host:]destination
00:23 <smoothice> scp is for nerds or cannot use SSH
00:23 <smoothice> who*
00:23 <ivantis2> wtf?
00:24 <ivantis2> scp runs over ssh
00:24 <nsh22> i run tyuou over
00:24 <ivantis2> and how would ssh replace scp?
00:24 <ivantis2> scp ivantis@somewhere ./
00:24 <ivantis2> scp ivantis@somewhere:/blah/blah ./
00:25 <ivantis2> how else would you get it?
00:25 <madmax> you setup a web server through ssh haha
00:25 <ivantis2> stuff in braces is optional
00:25 <ivantis2> then invent some new protocol?
00:26 <ivantis2> sfcphttpshhbbqp
00:26 <nsh22> smoothice: your losing the arguement :P
00:27 <ivantis2> dah! im doing it again!
00:28 <ivantis2> someone ban me so that i can work
00:28 <ivantis2> this project is due in a few days
00:28 <smoothice> umm
00:29 <smoothice> #ban ivantis2
00:29 <nsh22> #poll ivantis2
00:29 <ivantis2> #r
00:29 <ivantis2> dead?
00:29 <ivantis2> #ping
00:29 <@armabot> pong
00:29 <ivantis2> #roulette
00:29 -!- ivantis2 [n=ivantis@63-245-159-78.kitusa.com] has left #armagetron [requested by armabot: "BANG!"]
00:29  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
00:30 <nsh22> smoothice: nw df is pretty popular :P
00:30 -!- CruZ [n=cruzer@p57AF5C7A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #armagetron
00:30 <smoothice> nsh22: yep
00:30 <nsh22> hey, where would i put the command for spwainging zones
00:30 <smoothice> ?
00:30 <nsh22> settings_custom?
00:31 <smoothice> wait
00:31 <smoothice> spawning zones for each round?
00:31 <nsh22> yes
00:31 <smoothice> you have to use php for that
00:31 <nsh22> ...
00:31 <nsh22> what about random spawning zones?
00:31 <coldcrow> #tea
00:31 <smoothice> you have to use php for that too
00:32 -!- coldcrow is now known as akira_arma
00:32 <CruZ> hey, does anybody know how to add a ban manually by editing the bans.txt ?
00:32 <@armabot> coldcrow: Fortress Café: Players (14/32): 2020, Durka skipdef© (DDMJ@forums), Gusbo T Jam esq, hand, Hedera, Hera, Lackadaisical, madmax (madmax@forums), man2d, noob13, noob44, pavelo (pavelo@forums), poop, vol
00:32 <nsh22> ok, how would i use php for it (i.e. what files)
00:32 <CruZ> one line - one ip ?
00:32 <smoothice> CruZ: you have to specify a time too...
00:32 <smoothice> CruZ: try banning yourself to see what the format is
00:33 <CruZ> so for example: 255.255.255.255 99999
00:33 <smoothice> nsh22: you have to get luke-jr to enable a php parser for you
00:33 <smoothice> CruZ: I'd say so
00:33 <CruZ> ok
00:33 <CruZ> thx
00:33 <smoothice> k
00:33 <nsh22> sdoesnt ct+sty come with one?
00:34 <smoothice> sty+ct has not one line of PHP code in it
00:34 <smoothice> all sty+ct does is add more stuff the ladderlog and add some extra commands here and there
00:34 <smoothice> the ladderlog stuff is very powerful
00:34 <smoothice> but is not php
00:34 <smoothice> the php parser parses the ladderlog and sends output through stdout to arma itself
00:35 <animuson> it doesnt let me bzr ivantis' arma-hacks -> http://pastebin.com/m3883b6eb
00:35 <smoothice> meh
00:35 <smoothice> that branch is old and crappy
00:35 <smoothice> oooh
00:35 <smoothice> bzr error
00:35 <smoothice> animuson: bzr --version
00:35 <smoothice> what version of bzr?
00:36 <animuson> 1.3.1
00:36 <smoothice> the newst is like 1.12
00:36 <animuson> :P
00:36 <nsh22> luke-jr: do you have a php parser for your servers?
00:36 <smoothice> nsh22: you have to write them yourself... and you have to decide what you want it to do
00:36 <nsh22> o0
00:37 <smoothice> I could do it for you
00:37 <smoothice> lol
00:37 <animuson> how do i upgrade it?
00:37 <smoothice> what OS is ur vps running
00:37 <animuson> ubuntu
00:37 <smoothice> ubuntu x.xx?
00:38 <animuson> 8.something
00:38 <nsh22> queston where is users.cfg
00:38 <smoothice> ???
00:39 <animuson> 8.04 :P
00:40 <smoothice> get 8.10
00:40 <smoothice> google it
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00:40 <luke-jr> nsh22: service bots are supported, yes
00:40 <luke-jr> nsh22: though Perl > PHP
00:40 <smoothice> ...
00:40 <smoothice> perl is crap in a hole
00:40 <luke-jr> nsh22: your current one is BASH
00:40 <nsh22> luke-jr: but i have to have my own?
00:40 <luke-jr> PHP is crap :p
00:40 <smoothice> perl is SH --- IT
00:40 <luke-jr> nsh22: the map rotator is a BASH one
00:41 <luke-jr> smoothice: shows that you know nothing of Perl ☺
00:41 <smoothice> I do.. but not the inner workings of it
00:41 <nsh22> luke-jr: what i want to do is zone spawning
00:41 <luke-jr> nobody who knows Perl hates it :p
00:41 <nsh22> my server just dieded
00:41 <smoothice> crash
00:41 <luke-jr> nsh22: O.o
00:41 <animuson> theres not an easy way to upgrade it?
00:41 <smoothice> apt-get dist-upgrade
00:41 <smoothice> butp
00:41 <smoothice> but
00:41 <smoothice> run these first
00:42 <smoothice> apt-get update
00:42 <smoothice> apt-get upgrade
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00:42 <smoothice> apt-get dist-upgrade
00:42 <animuson> i just did
00:42 <smoothice> all of those?
00:42 <luke-jr> eating supper, bbiab
00:42 <smoothice> ...
00:42 <smoothice> k
00:42 <luke-jr> animuson: btw, smoothice is giving anicent directions
00:42 <smoothice> screw you luke-jr :P
00:42 <smoothice> those aren't ancient
00:42 <luke-jr> animuson: put 'aptitude' instead of 'apt-get'
00:42 <luke-jr> apt-get is obsolete
00:42 <smoothice> ...
00:42 <smoothice> so?
00:42 <animuson> it upgrade proftpd :-/
00:42 <animuson> lol
00:42 <luke-jr> and using it can be destructive
00:42 <luke-jr> animuson: I'd uninstall proftpd; FTP is a security hole
00:43 <luke-jr> anyhow, eating supper, bbiab
00:43 <nsh22> luke-jr: what should i use for a zone spawner?
00:43 <smoothice> php
00:43 <smoothice> nsh22: use php and tell luke-jr to shut up :D
00:43 <luke-jr> nsh22: Perl or BASH, depending on complexity
00:43 <smoothice> wait
00:43 <smoothice> nsh22 is paying luke-jr
00:43 <smoothice> not vice versa
00:43 <smoothice> so nsh22 can do whatever he wants
00:43 <smoothice> nsh22: use php
00:43 <luke-jr> nsh22: PHP is designed for webpages and doesn't work well for anything else
00:43 <luke-jr> nsh22: PHP is also a memory hog
00:43 <smoothice> nsh22: incorrect
00:43 <smoothice> nsh22: x2
00:43 <nsh22> sry smooth but he has more experiance on these things :P
00:43 <smoothice> says who?
00:43 <luke-jr> smoothice: Sty v2 working yet?
00:43 <luke-jr> kthx
00:44 <smoothice> ....
00:44 <luke-jr> ☺
00:44 <smoothice> that's C++ dummy
00:44 <smoothice> DIFFERENT!
00:44 <luke-jr> it's programming
00:44 <luke-jr> now, I really should go eat my supper
00:44 <luke-jr> it's getting cold
00:44 <smoothice> nah
00:44 <luke-jr> bbiab
00:44 <smoothice> so/
00:44 <smoothice> so what about your stupid dinner?
00:47 -!- coldcrow is now known as akira_arma
00:47 <animuson> when i try to install bzr is stops and says bzr is already the newest version
00:47 <animuson> :-/
00:47 <smoothice> ...
00:47 <smoothice> for 8.04?
00:47 <luke-jr> so why do you think you dont have it?
00:47 <smoothice> ?
00:52 <smoothice> #cfg2 ladderlog_write_
00:52 <smoothice> nsh22: these are all the things the script can respond to
00:52 <@armabot> smoothice: LADDERLOG_WRITE_ADMIN_COMMAND: ladderlog_write_admin_command_help(Default: 0 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_ADMIN_LOGIN: ladderlog_write_admin_login_help(Default: 0 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_ADMIN_LOGOUT: ladderlog_write_admin_logout_help(Default: 0 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_ALL: Set all the LADDER_LOG_WRITE_* settings to the same value || LADDERLOG_WRITE_AUTHORITY_BLURB: Write to ladderlog: (11 more messages)
00:52 <smoothice> #more
00:52 <@armabot> smoothice: AUTHORITY_BLURB (Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_BALL_VANISH: ladderlog_write_ball_vanish_help(Default: 0 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_BASEZONE_CONQUERED: Write to ladderlog: BASEZONE_CONQUERED (Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_BASEZONE_CONQUERER: Write to ladderlog: BASEZONE_CONQUERER (Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_BASEZONE_CONQUERER_TEAM: ladderlog_write_basezone_conquerer_team_help(Default: (10 more messages)
00:52 <smoothice> #more
00:52 <@armabot> smoothice: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_CHAT: Write to ladderlog: CHAT [/me] (Default: 0 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_COMMAND: Write to ladderlog: COMMAND (Default: 0 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_DEATH_BASEZONE_CONQUERED: ladderlog_write_death_basezone_conquered_help(Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_DEATH_DEATHZONE: ladderlog_write_death_deathzone_help(Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_DEATH_FRAG: Write to ladderlog: (9 more messages)
00:52 <smoothice> #more
00:52 <@armabot> smoothice: DEATH_FRAG (Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_DEATH_RUBBERZONE: ladderlog_write_death_rubberzone_help(Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_DEATH_SHOT_FRAG: ladderlog_write_death_shot_frag_help(Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_DEATH_SHOT_SUICIDE: ladderlog_write_death_shot_suicide_help(Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_DEATH_SHOT_TEAMKILL: ladderlog_write_death_shot_teamkill_help(Default: 1 ) || (8 more messages)
00:52 <nsh22> im actually editing some of those on my server...
00:52 <nsh22> ladderlog_write_admin stuff
00:52 <smoothice> yeah
00:53 <smoothice> #cfg2 ladderlog_write_round
00:53 <@armabot> smoothice: LADDERLOG_WRITE_ROUND_COMMENCING: ladderlog_write_round_commencing_help(Default: 0 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_ROUND_SCORE: Write to ladderlog: ROUND_SCORE [](Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_ROUND_SCORE_TEAM: Write to ladderlog: ROUND_SCORE_TEAM (Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_ROUND_WINNER: Write to ladderlog: ROUND_WINNER (Default: 1 )
00:53 <nsh22> ladderlog_write_all 1
00:53 <nsh22> s:)
00:54 <smoothice> k
00:54 <smoothice> just as well
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01:01 <animuson> where are the access level names stored? like user_level 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 etc
01:04 <nsh22> setting_authentication
01:04 <nsh22> under config
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01:06 <animuson> thats just all the auth settings
01:07 <animuson> i want to change the names for the user levels
01:08 <nsh22> it should be there,
01:08 <smoothice> animuson: set all ur settings in settings_custon
01:09 <smoothice> settings_custom... don't bother with the rest of the files
01:09 <animuson> nvm i found it
01:09 <animuson> its in language/english_base_notranslate.txt
01:10 <smoothice> oh
01:10 <smoothice> I get what you’re saying
01:10 <nsh22> no
01:10 <smoothice> nevermind
01:10 <nsh22> http://rafb.net/p/Jthzl054.html
01:10 <nsh22> i think you just change those names
01:10 <smoothice> nope
01:10 <smoothice> they're in the language file
01:10 <nsh22> ...
01:10 <smoothice> that file
01:10 <smoothice> is just comments
01:11 <nsh22> damn
01:13 <nsh22> smooth, some ppl want some settings changed in df, can i do it?
01:13 <smoothice> what settings
01:14 <nsh22> rubber
01:14 <nsh22> they want it increased
01:14 <smoothice> 2009/03/06-00:13:26 CHAT purple neal change rubber to a littel more plz .can u ????
01:14 <smoothice> umm
01:14 <smoothice> there's plenty of rubber already...
01:14 <smoothice> more rubber is for noobs lol
01:14 <smoothice> I mean
01:14 <smoothice> go ahead and do whatever
01:14 <smoothice> but
01:14 <smoothice> once I restart it
01:14 <smoothice> It'll be back to NW df config
01:14 <nsh22> ok :P ty
01:19 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r903 Fixed grind and split a bit.... || [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r902 Taught them not to do a couple of stupid things....
01:28 <animuson> how can i echo a command to the console from the source code?
01:31 <smoothice> animuson: sn_ConsoleOut?
01:31 <smoothice> question mark accidental)
01:36 <nsh22> smoothice: forums not working?
01:36 <smoothice> ???
01:36 <nsh22> try to get on our forums
01:38 <animuson> how can i echo it as a command that needs to be run tho?
01:39 <cpayan> Seriously, what are you supposed to do when it seems like five desktops just isn't enough on your computer?
01:45 <cpayan> aren't*
01:45 <smoothice> animuson: In c++?
01:47 <animuson> whatever language arma uses
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01:52 <neal_arma> any1 care to kick nsh22 for me?
01:53 <animuson> is the default rgb for a deathzone 25 0 0?
01:54 <smoothice> 15 0 0
01:54 <smoothice> or in C++
01:54 <smoothice> 1.0f 0.0f 0.0f
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02:01 <ct|kyle> #m epsy I think you should add a client side colour string filter
02:01 <@armabot> ct|kyle: The operation succeeded.
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02:01 <neal_arma> wewt
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02:01 <ct|kyle> heh
02:02 <nsh22> my internet stopped working randomly so i had to restart comp
02:02 <ct|kyle> mine goes out about 1 time each day
02:02 <nsh22> ew
02:02 <ct|kyle> and it is wired
02:02 <nsh22> miunes about 1nce a month, if that
02:02 <nsh22> wired as well
02:03 <ct|kyle> but only for about 5-10 seconds
02:03 <smoothice> ct
02:03 <smoothice> ct|kyle: you have verizon dsl
02:03 <smoothice> ct|kyle: which is epic fail
02:03 <ct|kyle> smoothice: yes but really the only thing in the area
02:03 <smoothice> get FiOS?
02:04 <ct|kyle> it takes forever to get parents to switch
02:04 <smoothice> oh lol
02:04 <smoothice> what speed dls?
02:04 <smoothice> dsl
02:04 <ct|kyle> it took me 2-3 years just for them to switch to DSL from AOL
02:04 <ct|kyle> I get about 3.5 up and 1 down
02:05 <smoothice> I get 12 down and 768 up :D
02:05 <smoothice> I love fttn :P
02:05 <ct|kyle> heh
02:05 <smoothice> #g fttn
02:05 <@armabot> smoothice: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
02:05 <smoothice> #google fttn
02:05 <smoothice> @g fttn
02:05 <@armabot> smoothice: Search took 0.12 seconds: Fiber to the x - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FTTH>; FTTN Definition - PC Magazine: <http://www.pcmag.com/encyclopedia_term/0,2542,t=FTTN&i=43550,00.asp>; Light Reading - Broadband - AT&T: We're Sticking With FTTN - Telecom: <http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=107939>; Lightwave - FTTN : The 'other' fiber (3 more messages)
02:05 <teabot> smoothice: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FTTH - Fiber to the x - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
02:05 <ct|kyle> Fios to the neeiborhood
02:06 <smoothice> fiber
02:06 <smoothice> fiber to the neighboord
02:06 <smoothice> lol
02:06 <ct|kyle> actually we have it to the boxes next to ours just not from the ones next to our to ours
02:07 <smoothice> english please?
02:07 <smoothice> lol
02:07 <ct|kyle> they cut our line when the put it in
02:07 <smoothice> fail?
02:07 <ct|kyle> they put fios to the boxes on each side of ours
02:07 <nsh22> haha
02:07 <nsh22> sucks
02:07 <ct|kyle> but never ran it from those boxes to ours
02:07 <nsh22> EPIC FAIL
02:08 <smoothice> fail....
02:08 <smoothice> ll
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02:25 <smoothice> #m z-man the fortress AI bot dies after about 20 seconds on the grid in its zone :D
02:25 <@armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
02:26 <luke-jr> hm
02:26 <smoothice> ?
02:27 <smoothice> lol
02:27 <smoothice> hm = ?
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02:31 <luke-jr> grr, why is [eg]Floor not a netobject ☹
02:33 <nsh22> i dont knowq luke, why isnt it?
02:40  * nsh22 is so happy
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03:01 <ct|kyle> oi sinewav
03:02 <sinewav> hey man, what's up?
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03:06 <ct|kyle> not too much
03:07 <sinewav> yeah, me either. Workin' a lot, which is good.
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03:16 <smoothice> luke-jr, ct|kyle: FYI, the new Fortress AI is sooo freaking cool!
03:17 <luke-jr> good for you
03:17 <luke-jr> don't highlight me for no reason
03:17 <ct|kyle> ok luke-jr :P
03:17 <smoothice> luke-jr: just telling you it's cool!
03:18 <ct|kyle> smoothice: I still gotta try it, is it in 0.2.8 or 0.3.*
03:18 <smoothice> 0.3
03:18 <smoothice> I have a server up
03:18 <smoothice> wanna see?
03:18 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: everything is 0.3.*
03:18 <smoothice> hey
03:18 <smoothice> don't highlight for no reason
03:18 <ct|kyle> smoothice: how is the flag zone
03:18 <smoothice> ct|kyle: It won't do anything
03:19 <smoothice> and I cannot figure out why
03:19 <ct|kyle> probably because you need the last 2 lines of zfoirtress.h in zFlag.h (I think)
03:19 <smoothice> ok
03:19 <ct|kyle> zFortress.h*
03:24 <smoothice> ct|kyle: cool, eh?
03:24 <ct|kyle> except for the bug
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03:44 <luke-jr> smoothice: guess what I was workign on
03:49 <smoothice> luke-jr: zv2sty?
03:49 <luke-jr> no
03:49 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: is it what your brought up earlier
03:49 <luke-jr> ?
03:50 <smoothice> luke-jr: fort ai?
03:50 <luke-jr> no
03:50 <ct|kyle> the recognizers
03:50 <luke-jr> not quite
03:50 <luke-jr> I think that's over my head
03:50 <ct|kyle> the modoling stuff for them :P
03:51 <luke-jr> I think that's over my head
03:51 <ct|kyle> then wtf are you working on
03:51 <ct|kyle> rthe cube
03:51 <luke-jr> figure it out
03:51 <ct|kyle> 3d
03:51 <luke-jr> try again
03:52 <smoothice> tell us luke-jr
03:52 <luke-jr> figure it out :p
03:52 <ct|kyle> flying zones
03:52 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: that's been done for days
03:52 <ct|kyle> 3d zones
03:52 <luke-jr> …
03:53 <ct|kyle> ok just tell us
03:53 <smoothice> luke-jr: working on your attitude?
03:53 <smoothice> lol
03:53 <luke-jr> check LP
03:53 <smoothice> map-floor-texture?
03:53 <luke-jr> :p
03:53 <smoothice> why do we care?
03:54 <ct|kyle> could be cool to package a floor texture with a map
03:54 <luke-jr> like the new fort texture
03:54 <ct|kyle> or sinewav's ctf one
03:55 <ct|kyle> or the styball one
03:55 <ct|kyle> along with ram walls
03:56 <smoothice> ct|kyle: what did you say I needed from zFortress.h? REAL lastSync_?
03:56 <ct|kyle> I think so
03:56 <smoothice> ummm
03:56 <smoothice> why does that matter?
03:57 <ct|kyle> I was actually just taking a look at the code now LOL
03:57 <smoothice> I hope we can get this fixed...
03:58 <luke-jr> smoothice: remember, I expect something like sty to take a few rewrites before it works well
03:58 <luke-jr> so don't get discouraged!
03:58 <smoothice> ok
03:58 <smoothice> I'm just kinda feeling like a fail
03:58 <smoothice> since I cannot figure out why the zone doesn't respond
04:01 <luke-jr> smoothice: think of how I just started 2 or 3 goals that I'm stuck on ☺
04:01 <smoothice> lol
04:01 <smoothice> but
04:01 <smoothice> the thing is
04:01 <smoothice> if you just looked at my code for a brief moment
04:01 <smoothice> you'd probably figure it out
04:02 <ct|kyle> that is all I've done also
04:03 <ct|kyle> I really should start a sty zones v2 testing server
04:03 <smoothice> it doesn't even work yet
04:03 <smoothice> -.-
04:03 <smoothice> the frickin zone doesn't respond!
04:03 <ct|kyle> ya less work for me to do in the long run
04:04 <smoothice> luke-jr: can you glance at the code for a moment again? if it makes you feel superior I'm a dumbass
04:04 <luke-jr> lolwut
04:04 <luke-jr> busy
04:04 <smoothice> again? :(
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04:05 <luke-jr> yeh
04:05 <luke-jr> playing glob2
04:05 <smoothice> :'(
04:05 <smoothice> dude
04:05 <smoothice> you say you'd mentor me through this process
04:05 <smoothice> said*
04:05 <luke-jr> yeh
04:05 <luke-jr> not 24/7 tho
04:05 <ct|kyle> is onInside the new onentry
04:05 <luke-jr> no
04:05 <ct|kyle> er OnEnter?
04:05 <luke-jr> they are different funcs
04:06 <luke-jr> yeah
04:06 <luke-jr> OnEnter -> OnInside
04:06 <ct|kyle> ok
04:06 <smoothice> luke-jr: well when are you available?
04:06 <ct|kyle> I think I know problem number 1
04:06 <smoothice> :D!!!!
04:06 <ct|kyle> wait nm
04:06 <smoothice> :(!!!
04:06 <smoothice> :(
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04:10 <ct|kyle> wow, I think I've used too much python lately I wanted to put a # as a comment
04:10 <smoothice> any luck ct|kyle?
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04:24 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-map-floor-texture] r891 not quite working map floor texture support
04:46 <smoothice> luke-jr: http://rafb.net/p/27gsq964.html
04:47 <smoothice> luke-jr: that's on bootstrap.sh run
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05:02 <sinewav> anyone for CTF with fort physics?
05:04 <ct|kyle> sinewav: can you send me that config :)
05:05 <ct|kyle> it would be a nice test map/settings
05:07 <sinewav> which one? flag fort?
05:07 <ct|kyle> ya
05:08 <sinewav> lemme look fer it.
05:09 <ct|kyle> sinewav: nevermind
05:09 <sinewav> wha.
05:09 <ct|kyle> sinewav: I found e-mail from before
05:09 <sinewav> kk
05:10 <sinewav> Imma post it on the forums anyway. just in case I lose it.
05:10 <ct|kyle> want me to just send it back to you
05:13 <sinewav> too late!
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07:15 <cpayan> I must declare, Zombie-enabled sumo is pretty neat
07:15 <cpayan> I don't think control of the zombie would really gain anything
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07:41 <Lucifer> anybody know a food that starts with d?
07:41 <Lucifer> besides "dead meat"
07:42 <cpayan> duck
07:43 <mkzelda> dick
07:43 <cpayan> classy
07:43 <mkzelda> http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080109194130AAm6Myq
07:45 <Lucifer> duck!  Why didn't I think of that
07:45 <mkzelda> b/c you were busy thinking about dick? :D
07:45 <Lucifer> I put Dried beef
07:47 <Red_Pachel[home]> dumplings!
07:48 <Lucifer> I'm getting hungry reading that thread, I need to cook dinner soon
07:48  * Lucifer wonders what he's going to eat tonight, since he just went grocery shopping
07:49 <Red_Pachel[home]> i suppose that's better than wonder what to eat since you HAVENT been grocery shopping
07:51 <Lucifer> that's right, keep looking on the bright side
07:51 <Lucifer> I think I'll do a little stir-fry with chicken, jalapenos, and green chiles
07:51 <Lucifer> I just have to debone chicken for that :)
07:52  * Lucifer got thighs at 0.99/lb
07:52 <Lucifer> but it means I have to debone them every time I use them, because I cook and eat primarily chinese stir-fry
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15:30 <smoothice> ct|kyle: you didn't push the color fix yet?
15:30 <smoothice> ct|kyle: now you did as of two seconds ago :)
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15:53 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r875 Making colors work
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16:29 <z-man> Hahaha. Only server not available with 0.2.8.2.1: Global Players OLD SCHOOL SERVER.
16:29 <BabyBug>  z-man, is that fortress ai branch meant to work atm? =x
16:30 <z-man> Depends how you define 'work'.
16:30 <z-man> It compiles, and the bots don't suicide for a couple of seconds.
16:30 <guru3> i don't want to change
16:30 <z-man> I realized I need a better AI framework in general, so I'm building that.
16:31 <BabyBug> they suicide straight away here, heh =x
16:31 <guru3> i know where everything is on the forums
16:31 <guru3> i don't want to move things and delete things
16:31 <z-man> BabyBug: they do?
16:31 <BabyBug> who said about moving things?
16:31 <z-man> All those
16:31 <z-man> few words per line
16:31 <BabyBug> z-man, in a team of 8, about 3 suicide at the start
16:31 <z-man> community building
16:31 <z-man> tossers.
16:31 <BabyBug> and none of em grind :(
16:32 <z-man> Really? They should.
16:32 <z-man> Are you up to date?
16:32  * z-man wonders whether he pushed last night's work
16:32 <dlh> z-man: http://rafb.net/p/cn8NBr47.html ← won't that just make the bot turn right into itself?
16:32 <BabyBug> well, position 2 and 3 turn around and grind backwards =x
16:32 <BabyBug> yup i'm up to date
16:32 <z-man> ah, then I forgot to push something up. I fixed that.
16:32 <guru3> i'd be willing to update to phpbb3
16:33 <z-man> dlh: yes ;) but the next AI step will correct it.
16:33 <z-man> (but I'm going to remove it anyway.)
16:33 <guru3> and the background colors do NOT change
16:33 <guru3> i GUARENTEE it
16:33 <BabyBug> guru3, talk sense! =P
16:33 <guru3> first, there are no background colors
16:34 <guru3> " On each page, the colors change, the fonts change, the backgrounds chang"
16:34 <guru3> maybe on each site
16:34 <guru3> each page across each site is identical though
16:35 <guru3> and this may be biased, but there'll be links to facebook and twitter over my dead body
16:35 <z-man> \o/
16:36 <z-man> We should totally get a myspace profile.
16:36 <guru3> no myspace either
16:36 <guru3> a friend of mine mentioned an opensource twitter like app
16:36 <guru3> i might be convinced to set something up with that
16:36 <guru3> same with jabber
16:37 <z-man> For such a youg guy, you're incredibly old and grumpy :)
16:37 <guru3> i don't approve of social networking sites
16:37 <guru3> RAWR
16:38 <z-man> (but yeah, I'd rather be without facestalk and twitter and blogs, while we're at it.)
16:38 <guru3> motion carried then
16:38 <guru3> (except for the blog bit)
16:38 <guru3> (that may actually be a good idea)
16:38 <z-man> It depends. I'm kind of reading all of the forums as blogs, partly.
16:39  * z-man heavily uses the 'view unread posts' page.
16:39 <guru3> i only use that -_-
16:39 <guru3> that's why it's at the top
16:39 <z-man> But that feature requires you to have an account.
16:39 <guru3> right above logout
16:39 <guru3> there are a lot of accounts that have 0 posts and don't appear to be spammers
16:40 <z-man> Yeah, I do that on other forums at times, too: get an account just so I can use the 'what's new' search.
16:40 <z-man> phpbb can publish RSS feeds of subforums, I think.
16:40 <guru3> i don't think our phpbb can
16:41 <guru3> really should upgrade to phpbb3
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16:48 <BabyBug> Why haven't you?
16:48 <guru3> template :/
16:49 <BabyBug> phpbb3 looks nice at it is :@ =x
16:49 <guru3> me wants armagetron theme
16:50 <BabyBug> an arma banner isn't enough? =P
16:50 <guru3> it was back in the day
16:50 <guru3> i could bring it back
16:50 <guru3> but it does look a bit shit
16:50 <guru3> let me find it
16:51 <BabyBug> =)
16:51 <guru3> if i can -_-
16:51 <BabyBug> =.=
16:51 <guru3> where would it have gotten to i wonder...
16:53 <guru3> actually
16:53 <BabyBug> men suck at organizing...
16:53 <guru3> this looks even worse than i remember
16:54 <BabyBug> link?
16:54 <guru3> http://guru3.net/temp/aflogo3.gif
16:55 <BabyBug> wtf? lol
16:55 <guru3> that whent in place of the phpbb logo
16:55 <guru3> made with redhat 9
16:55 <guru3> back when i was still really learning linux
16:55 <guru3> and before armagetron advanced
16:55 <BabyBug> Defiantly seen better... =x But why don't you see make a phpbb3 template then?
16:56 <guru3> i don't think z-man even ever saw that
16:56 <guru3> i don't know how
16:56 <BabyBug> oh..
16:56 <guru3> i didn't make the template we use
16:56 <guru3> i prettu much suck i pretty much suck at design, if you didn't notice already ;)
16:56 <guru3> *pretty
16:56 <guru3> we're pretty unique as a community
16:57 <BabyBug> who did the template you use now? =)
16:57 <guru3> says at the bottom
16:57 <guru3> lackadaisical
16:57 <BabyBug> oo
16:57 <BabyBug> poke him to make a new one ^^
16:57 <guru3> need to make sure it's possible to upgrade to phpbb3 first
16:58 <BabyBug> why wouldn't it be?
16:58 <guru3> we do have phpbb2 mods installed
16:58 <guru3> attachment mod, category/heirarchy mod, flag mod
16:58 <BabyBug> and that stupid post count mod..
16:58 <BabyBug> get rid of that if you upgrade! :@
16:58 <BabyBug> what's wrong with normal numbers?
16:58 <guru3> that doesn't really count as a mod
16:59 <guru3> i just hacked that in
16:59 <BabyBug> It's still a modification to the original :P
16:59 <BabyBug> a very horrible modification at that
16:59 <guru3> i like it
16:59 <guru3> we're really very flexible
16:59 <guru3> (the armagetron community)
16:59 <BabyBug> not everyone's a nerd! =P
17:00 <guru3> we don't have any tyrannic people
17:00 <BabyBug> tyrannic?
17:00 <guru3> i don't ban people for no reason
17:00 <guru3> that sort of thing
17:00 <guru3> and we have a wide diversity of people
17:00 <BabyBug> you have no fun =(
17:00 <guru3> and a high % of normal people
17:00 <guru3> which means that no one thinks like a small opensource group on our forums
17:01 <guru3> everyone thinks internet 2.0
17:03 <BabyBug> I can't see how mods would stop you upgrading though...
17:03 <guru3> the modify the database
17:03 <guru3> *they
17:03 <guru3> which means it's no longer looking like what the upgrade script expects
17:04 <BabyBug> they only add to the database though don't they? so wouldn't the upgrade thingy just ignore then? or not that simple? if it's not, it should be!
17:04 <guru3> it's not
17:04 <guru3> just isn't
17:04 <guru3> tough shit
17:04 <guru3> i feel depressed now
17:04 <guru3> intellectually kamp makes good points
17:04 <guru3> never gonna happen :/
17:05 <BabyBug> lol O.o?
17:05 <guru3> people aren't thinking small garage community
17:05 <guru3> people are thinking corporation
17:06 <guru3> internet 2.0 sites with themes across different software solutions with high visibility options and all that jazz are great
17:06 <guru3> if you're fortune 500
17:07 <z-man> #m smoothice it's frigging work in progress :)
17:07 <@armabot> z-man: The operation succeeded.
17:07 <BabyBug> random? :|
17:08 <z-man> #m ct|kyle is the sty branch up to date? I thought I fixed that bug on Trunk a while ago.
17:08 <@armabot> z-man: The operation succeeded.
17:08 <z-man> no, reacting do days old #ms.
17:08 <BabyBug> oh...
17:08 <guru3> anyone know what happend to armagetron.de?
17:09 <epsy> z-man, I don't think phpbb does that
17:09 <dlh> armagetronad.de ?
17:09 <guru3> ah
17:10 <guru3> didn't know they changed
17:11 <guru3> z-man: do you feel it's really necessary to promote armagetron to everyone on earth?
17:11 <epsy> yeah, no single RSS feed
17:11 <epsy> not on main page, not on a forum, not in a thread
17:11 <z-man> guru3: nope.
17:11 <guru3> that's my feeling
17:11 <epsy> and phpbb is a bitch to style
17:11 <BabyBug> you should promote it!
17:11 <BabyBug> promoting = win win
17:11 <guru3> that's the average consumer point of view
17:11 <z-man> No, not for our development model
17:12 <epsy> promoting when not ready = HUDE FAIL
17:12 <z-man> which is 'do work as you have time'
17:12 <epsy> and when I say HUDE I mean HUGZ
17:12 <z-man> we NEED a steady influx of new players.
17:12 <epsy> and when I say HUGZ I mean HUGE
17:12 <epsy> and maybe i'll stop with the typos now
17:13 <epsy> ct|kyle, there are
17:13 <epsy> ct|kyle, but they can't work
17:13 <epsy> [properly]
17:13 <guru3> how much of an influx?
17:13 <guru3> x players per week?
17:13 <BabyBug> and why steady?
17:14 <BabyBug> and couldn't more players mean more developers? =)...So alot would be good? ^^
17:14 <guru3> we average about 1 new forum user a day
17:14 <guru3> BabyBug: armagetron players are normal people
17:15 <epsy> BabyBug, well, it's not up to us to make them shine all over the world when we don't even know about them
17:15 <BabyBug> have you played armagetron lately? :P
17:15 <BabyBug> they're anything but normal :P
17:15 <epsy> we've seen that BabyBug
17:15 <epsy> :D
17:16 <epsy> did anyone implement the color codes documented in that protobuf thread?
17:18 <BabyBug> epsy, not your concern...eevents is! :@
17:19 <epsy> wouldn't it be more logical to have \c{colouraa}{textincolor} ?
17:27 <guru3> maybe i should reactivate subsilver
17:27 <guru3> just to make people appreciate the current design
17:32 <BabyBug> maybe you should
17:32 <BabyBug> and then when you upgrade to phpbb3 from that, it'll look so much nicer 8-)
17:33 <guru3> than the current design?
17:34 <BabyBug> well imo, yes. But if you have subsilver as normal....It'll look even nicer again!
17:34 <epsy> phpbb sucks, get over it >.>
17:34 <epsy> are we gonna stay with prosilver for 5 years if we upgrade?
17:35 <BabyBug> i vote yes!
17:35 <BabyBug> and it's "when" not "if"
17:35 <epsy> phpbb2 -> phpbb3 is not worth the themeing work that's required for phpbb
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17:56 <BabyBug> oooooooooooooo
17:58 <guru3> firefox is using 110% cpu
17:58 <guru3> goddamn flash
18:16 <epsy> goddamn flash indeed
18:16 <epsy> makes firefox suck had
18:16 <epsy> hard *
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19:05 <akira_arma> #tea
19:05 <@armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
19:06 <akira_arma> :(
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19:08 <arrow> hi
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20:08 <ivantis2> #ping
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20:08 <@armabot> pong
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20:24 <akira_arma> #tea
20:24 <@armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
20:24 <akira_arma> !"§$ you bot
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20:46 <Lizmatic> BYE
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21:06  * Lucifer considers giving an arma theme in phpbb3 a try
21:06  * Lucifer thinks he can design web pages, just can't do fancy graphics
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21:12  * BabyBug agrees!
21:23 <ct|kyle> z-man: I updarted my client and that took care of the problem
21:23 <z-man> goody
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21:25 <ct|kyle> epsy: make them work :)
21:27 <epsy> I'll suppose them means ct|kyle
21:27 <epsy> ct|kyle: WORK NOW!
21:28 <epsy> Lucifer, don't forget to give up and screw phpbb forever :)
21:29 <epsy> #last --from epsy --with ct|kyle --nolimit
21:29 <@armabot> epsy: [21:27:25] <epsy> ct|kyle: WORK NOW!, [21:27:14] <epsy> I'll suppose them means ct|kyle, [17:13:08] <epsy> ct|kyle, but they can't work, and [17:13:03] <epsy> ct|kyle, there are
21:29 <epsy> ct|kyle, needs the client to know stuff is chat, and what part is the actual char
21:29 <epsy> chat *
21:29 <epsy> that means eEvent
21:29 <BabyBug> \o/
21:30  * ct|kyle stabs BabyBug
21:32 <BabyBug> ...
21:32 <BabyBug> I've been nice ALL day....and then you have to go stab me
21:32 <BabyBug> THAT'S NOT NICE!!
21:32 <epsy> you just failed BabyBug
21:33 <BabyBug> epsy, go fuck a duck
21:33 <epsy> quaaaaaack
21:33 <BabyBug> z-man is the only nice person in this place!!
21:33 <z-man> Only because I'm too lazy to be mean.
21:33  * BabyBug face palms
21:33 <epsy> we love you BabyBug :D
21:34 <BabyBug> ^^
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21:35 <epsy> baaah, automake time
21:35  * epsy scratches head
21:35 <BabyBug> change to scons!
21:35 <epsy> I'm considering something like that
21:36 <BabyBug> and why doesn't anyone make .deb files here?
21:36 <epsy> because that would mean so much work getting inside the inners of automake
21:36 <epsy> and it wouldn't work on anything else than linux & bsd
21:37 <epsy> BabyBug, because it's boring to do
21:37 <BabyBug> why is it?
21:37 <epsy> well, try making a deb package yourself
21:37 <BabyBug> i have!
21:37 <epsy> from scratch
21:37 <BabyBug> define from scratch
21:38 <epsy> ie. you just downloaded software X and you want to make a .deb package out of it
21:38 <BabyBug> you mean...starting with dh_make?
21:38 <BabyBug> yeh
21:38 <BabyBug> easy!
21:38 <BabyBug> well not easy
21:38 <BabyBug> but not boring!
21:38 <epsy> umm..ok?
21:39 <epsy> z-man, basically, our Makefiles just build what's listed in src/Makefile.am&co, then link it into packages, then link it into a binary?
21:39 <epsy> or is there more?
21:40 <z-man> there's all kind of crap.
21:40 <z-man> make the changelog
21:40 <z-man> sort the resources
21:40 <z-man> run the program to build the command list
21:41 <z-man> But for the build of the executable, I guess you have the bits.
21:41 <epsy> ok, I'll try to start with this then
21:41 <BabyBug> Who first started arma? =)
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21:41 <epsy> Mr. Z-Man itself
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21:42 <BabyBug> itself? lol
21:42 <epsy> I seem to like that word
21:42 <BabyBug> how rude! :P
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22:07 <epsy> ok, I got it to write empty makefiles! :)
22:08 <BabyBug> yay? =)
22:13  * BabyBug wonders if the AI's will be able to torpedo in fortress...
22:14 <akira_arma> #tea
22:14 <@armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (9/32): CT_emmy, ct|Puuquie, rope, Saint George, silverdoor, sithy (Sithy@forums), ]i[ 2020, ¦×¦ PlayerNuby, °höMö
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22:38 <BabyBug> #servers
22:38 <@armabot> BabyBug: This data is 13 seconds old; - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (15/16), |FA| Black Ice! (9/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (9/10), Fortress Café (9/32), Afrothunder's High Rubber (8/10), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (8/12), {Delicious Desserts} Racing II (7/14), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (7/12), |FA| Black Tar! (6/16), SPACEZONE I [HIGH SPEED!!] (6/8), (2 more messages)
22:41 <z-man> Is there a word yet for the left-right-right-right combination that lets you reverse in tight spots when you're close to the wrong wall?
22:41 <epsy> just camping space?
22:42 <epsy> I don't have a word for that specific move, however
22:42 <epsy> oh
22:42 <epsy> inverted double back, perhaps
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22:43 <BabyBug> 360 rolls off the tongue easier 8-)
22:43 <epsy> hmm now I wonder how I am going to generate stuff that was generated by configure
22:46 <Concord> #si cafe
22:47 <@armabot> Concord: Fortress Café: Players (11/32): -»|a, 135347325z43t, 2020, AFK-47 (Sithy@forums), akira, ct|Puuquie, free kill (dlh@generalconsumption.org), Jasper (Van-hayes@forums), PlayerNuby (PlayerNub@x/member), rope, si][ty
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22:57 <BabyBug> Is it by design? or by bug....That if you host a lan game from the client....commands like /me doesn't work?
22:57 <BabyBug> it just prints "/me"
22:57 <epsy> on 0.2.8 ?
22:57 <BabyBug> trunk
22:58 <epsy> bug, I'd say
22:58 <BabyBug> okies =)
23:00 <PinkTomato> I thought it was a keyboard thing
23:02 <PinkTomato> Hmm, oh that was the default console key did not work on this PC I was using. I think it affects 0.2.8.2 as well.
23:03 <PinkTomato> affects the beta for me at least
23:03 <BabyBug> oopsie, reported the bug on the wrong account >.<
23:04 <epsy> Richie?
23:04 <epsy> welshdragon! :D
23:04 <BabyBug> ex-fiance as of a couple of days ago =x
23:05 <PinkTomato> aww :(
23:06 <epsy> Well, I know I'm living in antartica, but .. is he right in front of a Castle?
23:06 <epsy> and of a motorway, as well :S
23:07 <BabyBug> lol what?
23:07 <epsy> https://launchpad.net/~welshdragon
23:08 <PinkTomato> epsy: motorways are blue in the UK :)
23:08 <BabyBug> lol
23:08 <PinkTomato> and wales has hardly any, which I have not noticed before
23:08 <epsy> well, cute village O_o
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23:09 <BabyBug> Hrmm, that's a town, the wrong town at that =P
23:09 <PinkTomato> That's a town o_O?
23:09 <PinkTomato> What do you call a village?
23:10 <BabyBug> *zooms in more*
23:10 <BabyBug> Oh wait no that's a village ^^
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23:10 <BabyBug> still the wrong village though xD
23:11 <BabyBug> epsy, you talk to him?
23:12 <epsy> who?
23:12 <BabyBug> You said "welshdragon!" as if you knew him =)
23:12 <epsy> just a kinky nickname heh
23:12 <BabyBug> :|
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23:14 <BabyBug> you know, someone could be nice and confirm the bug =)
23:14 <PinkTomato> I did ^_^
23:14 <PinkTomato> ish
23:14 <epsy> can't check right now
23:14 <BabyBug> i meant on lp silly =P
23:15 <ivantis2> hahaha
23:15 <ivantis2> i havent read that one in a while
23:15 <ivantis2> http://xkcd.com/364/
23:15 <epsy> can't QA do confirm bugs already?
23:15 <BabyBug> anyone can do confirm bugs!
23:15 <BabyBug> can't triage though =x
23:15 <PinkTomato> then BabyBug can confirm bugs
23:15 <PinkTomato> as BabyBug is part of everyone ^_^
23:15 <BabyBug> it feels naughty confirming ones own bug
23:15 <epsy> except if the bugs are too arrogant
23:16 <epsy> "No you're only a BABY bug, go away now"
23:16 <ivantis2> man, this feels like old times in irc
23:16 <BabyBug> but i'm sexy =(
23:17 <BabyBug> i don't wanna go away!
23:17 <ivantis2> you people may not realize it, but...
23:17 <ivantis2> oh man i forgot what i was going to say as  i typed that
23:19 <BabyBug> can i just kick him? (A)
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23:20 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: Do I just comment confirmed? Or do you need a project admin?
23:20 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, under status
23:20 <epsy> BabyBug, no MSN smileys here please
23:20 <BabyBug> Where it says New
23:20 <BabyBug> Click that
23:20 <BabyBug> Then change the drop down box to confirmed
23:20 <epsy> O:-) just does way better
23:20 <BabyBug> epsy...
23:20 <ivantis2> oh right
23:20 <BabyBug> SHH!!
23:21 <ivantis2> this channel wouldnt be the same
23:21 <ivantis2> if it werent for everyone here
23:21 <epsy> MSN smileys ftl! :s
23:21 <ivantis2> the size is right, like 30 to 50 people
23:21 <ivantis2> the environment
23:21 <ivantis2> the off-topicness
23:21 <ivantis2> the geek-tasticness
23:21 <BabyBug> #
23:21 <BabyBug> oops =x
23:22 <ivantis2> the people
23:22 <PinkTomato> oops, forgot to say beta and no comment delete or edit
23:22 <BabyBug> epsy, msn smileys are not ftl =( They look so cute!
23:22 <PinkTomato> but anyway, it's changed :)
23:22 -!- nsh22 [n=neal@bas3-barrie18-1176218557.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #armagetron
23:22 <nsh22> hey hey hey
23:22 <epsy> BabyBug, their text representation sucks
23:22 <BabyBug> epsy, your text representation sucks
23:22 <ivantis2> no geek-tasticness wasnt the right word
23:22 <ivantis2> nerdiness! thats it
23:23 <nsh22> whats better, geek or nerd
23:23 <epsy> who understands (A) ?
23:23 <epsy> who understands O:-) ?
23:23 <ivantis2> ...that has nothing to do with it
23:23 <nsh22> its an angel
23:23 <BabyBug> epsy, you obviously understood (A)
23:23 <BabyBug> A for ANGELLLL
23:23 <ivantis2> wtf is this (A)?
23:23 <epsy> BabyBug, because I didn't understand it so many times
23:23 <PinkTomato> I thought (A) was accept, sorry BabyBug!
23:24 <ivantis2> oh angel
23:24  * BabyBug face palms the desk
23:24 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, you let me down ='(
23:24 <BabyBug> My Lisa would know it's an angel! :@
23:24 <ivantis2> wheres kyle?
23:25 <ivantis2> this seems like an epsy, nsh22, ct|kyle, BabyBug, ivantis[2], PinkTomato conversation
23:25 <nsh22> :P isnt it always :P
23:25 <ivantis2> :?
23:25 <nsh22> here comes the metal meltdown! right before your eyes
23:25 <nsh22> !!!!
23:25 <PinkTomato> ivantis2: why aren't you ivantis?
23:25 <ivantis2> did that pi show up?
23:25 <ivantis2> no idea
23:25 <ivantis2> oh on this client ivantis2 is default
23:26 <ivantis2> why do i no longer run xchat on my other computer?
23:26 <ivantis2> i havent been to the basement where it is for ages...
23:26 <ivantis2> vnc and ssh sustain to do everything on it
23:26 <ivantis2> er, suffice is a better word for that
23:26 <BabyBug> ivantis2, ever thought of doing something besides babble?
23:27 <ivantis2> no
23:27 <BabyBug> come back when you have!
23:27 -!- ivantis2 is now known as ivantis
23:27 <ivantis> thats dumb
23:27 <ivantis> to nick change you need to set -e
23:28 <ivantis> well it kind of makes sense, because it would look like you were using a registered nick if you changed to an unregistered one
23:28 <@armabot> lpbugs: [338969] /commands do not work when hosting a lan game <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/338969>
23:28 <ivantis> i wonder what kind of socks i should wear today
23:28 <BabyBug> FIX NOW!
23:28 <epsy> ...
23:28 <ivantis> #fix bug->latest
23:29 <ivantis> that is a duh!
23:29 <BabyBug> #kick ivantis you're a duh.....brain!
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23:29 <ivantis> /commands never work when hosting with a client
23:29 <nsh22> lol
23:30 <PinkTomato> ivantis: hence bug repoty :)
23:30 <ivantis> its not a bug
23:30 <luke-jr> it is a bug
23:30 <BabyBug> of course it's a bug
23:30 <ivantis> just the code for commands is not in client
23:30 <BabyBug> so it's a bug...
23:30 <PinkTomato> ivantis: it is in the client
23:30 <PinkTomato> isn't it?
23:31 <luke-jr> ivantis: then that is the *reason* for the bug
23:31 <luke-jr> at least /me should work
23:31 <ivantis> no
23:31 <ivantis> i recall none of those working
23:31 <ivantis> /commands only work on dedicated
23:32 <BabyBug> ivantis, actually, if another client connects to the LAN game, /commands work fine
23:32 <BabyBug> It's only the client hosting, that the /commands don't work for
23:32 <luke-jr> ivantis: that's called a BUG
23:33 <ivantis> really? i never knode that
23:33 <nsh22> thats cuz ur dumb, lol jk
23:34 <ivantis> whatever. im no expert, i havent read all of the code or tried every little thing
23:34 <epsy> http://www.codesimplicity.com/archives/35
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23:34 <epsy> now stop wasting our time explaining you what a bug is
23:34 <BabyBug> yay he left!
23:34 <epsy> thanks
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23:34 <nsh22> damn
23:34 <BabyBug> ...
23:34 <epsy> [00:34] <epsy>: http://www.codesimplicity.com/archives/35
23:34 <epsy> [00:34] <epsy>: now stop wasting our time explaining you what a bug is
23:34 <ivantis2> damm this irc client
23:35 <nsh22> see, even it hates you :P
23:35 <ivantis2> now i will leave
23:35 <ivantis2> my sister wants to play some online game on this computer
23:35 <BabyBug> we don't care! just fuck off!
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23:35 <BabyBug> ty!
23:36 <nsh22> lol
23:36 <nsh22> wanna quote that?
23:36 <BabyBug> no
23:36 <nsh22> #quote add
23:36 <@armabot> nsh22: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
23:36 <epsy> quote what?
23:36  * BabyBug is grouchy cause she lacks sleep
23:36 <epsy>  /mode BabyBug +a
23:37 <nsh22> epsy: <BabyBug> we don't care! just fuck off!
23:37 <BabyBug> what does that do?
23:37 <nsh22> im gonna quote trhat :P
23:37 <epsy> I don't know
23:37 <BabyBug> Unknown Mode Flag
23:37 <BabyBug> :P
23:37 <epsy> probably nothing
23:37 <epsy> but it means me setting you on /away
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23:37 <nsh22> #quote add
23:37 <@armabot> nsh22: (quote add [<channel>] <text>) -- Adds <text> to the $type database for <channel>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
23:37 <BabyBug> i guess i shouldn't type things in when i don't know what they do =)
23:38 <epsy> yeah, especially on irc
23:38 <nsh22> BabyBug: can i plz quote that?
23:38 <BabyBug> No.
23:38 <BabyBug> It's copyright me!
23:38 <nsh22> :(
23:38 <epsy> or on any network that tracks clonebots through traps
23:38 <nsh22> ???
23:38 <BabyBug> ok now you lost me
23:38 <nsh22> ditto
23:39 <BabyBug> pokemon! =D
23:39 <nsh22> ...
23:39 <BabyBug> wrtlprnft and ditto should become poke-lovers
23:39 <PinkTomato> how do you check someone is /away?
23:39 <nsh22> go to #anime for pokemon (it seems appropriate :P)
23:39 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, /whois name name
23:39 <BabyBug> you need the name twice i think
23:39 <epsy> PinkTomato, /whois name, even
23:39 <PinkTomato> nsh22: they won't like that.
23:39 <nsh22> or if you ise xchat their names are grey
23:39 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: epsy thanks :)
23:40 <nsh22> PinkTomato: :D
23:40 <epsy> nsh22, we don't want pokemon shit
23:40 <nsh22> ima start a yandere there
23:40 <nsh22> on anime?
23:40 <epsy> then start a yandere there and shut up
23:40  * nsh22 shuts up
23:40 <BabyBug> \o/
23:40 <epsy> this is a fucking lightcycle game, not a play-with-irc-bots game
23:41 <epsy> neither an anime portal
23:41 <BabyBug> z-man, how good are you planning(hoping) to make the AI for fortress?
23:41 <z-man> nooby noob level.
23:42 <BabyBug> capable of attacking?
23:42 <PinkTomato> isn't there a point where you could make it pretty hard?
23:42 <epsy> to be honest, I would just let someone else do it with modules
23:42 <PinkTomato> like the defense, could be done really precise so it would be impossible?
23:42 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, holing =)
23:43 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: AI suggests 1 player game :)
23:43 <BabyBug> well you could have AI on your team aswell
23:43 <BabyBug> To even them out
23:43 <PinkTomato> ah
23:43 <PinkTomato> of course :)
23:43 <PinkTomato> only the AI has to be smart enough to use a hole
23:43 <BabyBug> or...a dedi server, set up just for ai fortress aswell
23:44 <BabyBug> so anyone can join, and face the ai
23:44 <BabyBug> Of course, if it's only nooby noob level, that'd get boring quick
23:44 <epsy> or AIs vs AIs
23:45 <BabyBug> Hrmm...If the AI has a goal of getting inside a zone, wouldn't it naturally use a hole?
23:45 <BabyBug> Surely you wouldn't need to specifically say, go through a hole would you?
23:45 <epsy> they don't die so easily
23:46 <Lucifer> well, another interview on Friday
23:46 <BabyBug> \o/
23:46 <Lucifer> political group that's trying to save the environment :)
23:46 <nsh22> wewt
23:46 <nsh22> lol
23:46 <nsh22> what would you be doing with them
23:46 <Lucifer> beats me, but the girl I talked to sounded very interesting, so if I don't get the job, maybe I'll get a date
23:47 <epsy> haha
23:47 <BabyBug> be careful lucifer...Someone who's part of a political group here, just got green custard thrown in their face today
23:47 <nsh22> lol or if you get the job yoou may still have a date :P
23:47 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: A political group that stands for seats?
23:47 <Lucifer> she asked why I was interested in the job, and I told her I was a programmer that got taken out by the recession, and an avid bicyclist that wants to save the environment
23:48 <Lucifer> so I could kill two birds with one stone
23:48 <BabyBug> oooo i completely forgot amongst everything...Where you at with that php app luci?
23:49 <Lucifer> stalled, I went a direction I didn't like and have been focusing on job-hunting again
23:49 <BabyBug> oo =x
23:49 <PinkTomato> is that tourney.dave etc.?
23:49 <Lucifer> I'm considering taking my juggling balls down to the arboretum on Monday and seeing what kind of tips I could make
23:49 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, newp, something else
23:49 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: no, different app
23:49 <nsh22> you juggle?
23:49 <Lucifer> money management app
23:49 <Lucifer> nsh22: yes
23:49 <PinkTomato> oh right :)
23:49 <Lucifer> not very well, but yeah :)
23:49 <nsh22> how many at one time?
23:49 <BabyBug> video or it's not true luci :D
23:50 <Lucifer> 3 so far, because that's all I've got
23:50 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: is tourney. etc going to happen :)?
23:50 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: unlikely, I was working on that to learn my way around a toolkit for which I was about to be hired to work with, and didn't get the job
23:51 <PinkTomato> Oh right :(
23:51 <epsy> PinkTomato, you know I'd love to do it as well, but I want other things to be done first
23:51 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, weren't you doing that? :|
23:52 <nsh22> my site is being a retard and not loading...
23:52 <epsy> reatard website!
23:52 -!- MaZuffeR [n=mazuffer@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has quit ["Ex-Chat"]
23:53 <nsh22> yes
23:53 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: I was, I think I'll start it up again and do it properly hopefully :)
23:53 <BabyBug> a reatard? is that like a leotard?
23:53 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, bzr branch? make it easier for other people to chip in =)
23:53 <epsy> doing it properly implis, IMO, doing what I planned on doing before
23:53 <nsh22> no, thats a retards way of saying retard :P
23:53 <epsy> implies *
23:54 <BabyBug> epsy, what did you plan on doing before?
23:55 <epsy> modules is the main dep for this IMO
23:56 <epsy> but well, the team/player management part can still be done without that
23:56 <epsy> as optional comes my wonderful carpets, but let's lay that on later
23:58 <BabyBug> yay another commit \o/

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