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Log from 2009-01-20:
--- Day changed Tue Jan 20 2009
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00:42 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: too little? I always felt VPS had way too much disk space.
00:57 <BabyBug> \o/
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01:01 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r801 Transformed regular chat messages to protocol buffers.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r800 Fixed stupid mistakes and added global protocol buffer versi... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r799 Added network descriptors handling protocol buffers directly... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r798 Got first protobuf to compile. Yay.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetro
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01:27 <Lucifer> oh well
01:27 <Lucifer> they can't start me yet
01:27 <Lucifer> they don't know when they will be able to start me
01:27 * Lucifer is bummed out, now.
01:27 <BabyBug> =(
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01:36 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/ender/squeeze/abmap-1.0.4.aamap.xml: Resource by ender
01:38 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/ender/squeeze/abmap-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by ender
01:39 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/ender/squeeze/abmap-1.0.3.aamap.xml: Resource by ender
01:41 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/ender/squeeze/abmap-1.0.2.aamap.xml: Resource by ender
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01:57 <nsh22> hey
01:58 <ct|kyle> hey
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02:05 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r802 Factored protobuf stuff into own header to avoid full rebuil...
02:10 <BabyBug> Lucifer, they give you a reason why they can't start you yet?
02:24 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/neal/race/WackyRaces-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by neal
02:24 <nsh22> wewt
02:28 <Lucifer> BabyBug: yeah, the job they were expecting to sell didn't sell
02:28 <BabyBug> >< =(
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02:39 <Durka> does anyone know how to install apache web server on linux (debian)
02:41 <BabyBug> apt-get install apache2
02:41 <Durka> its that simple?
02:41 <Durka> and why "apache2" :O
02:42 <BabyBug> If all you want is a simple server, then yup it's that simple
02:42 <BabyBug> because it is apache2 in the repos and not apache1 =)
02:43 <Durka> hehe ok
02:43 <luke-jr> O.o
02:43 <luke-jr> bzr is interesting
02:43 <BabyBug> What made you say that?
02:43 <luke-jr> if I accidentally type 'bzr diff' in a Subversion checkout, bzr imports it
02:43 <BabyBug> I thought you're pro svn? =P
02:47 <Lucifer> don't forget simon_says
02:47 <BabyBug> simon_says
02:47 <BabyBug> bash: simon_says: command not found
02:47 <BabyBug> =(
02:47 <Lucifer> well, I emailed the guy and asked if he could find 10-15 hours/week of work for me, so I don't have to keep looking, and he can keep me close ;)
02:47 <Lucifer> we'll see how that goes, I suppose
02:48 * ct|kyle wonders when the parade will be tomorrow
02:48 <BabyBug> You should come up with an idea that can earn you money Lucifer!
02:48 <ct|kyle> i want to see the moon rovers :)
02:49 <Durka> BabyBug: thnx!
02:49 <Durka> BabyBug: http://durka.ath.cx
02:49 <BabyBug> Durka, np =)
02:49 <Durka> hehe
02:49 <ct|kyle> Durka: It Works
02:49 <Durka> :P
02:49 <Lucifer> looks like it works
02:49 <Durka> !
02:49 <ct|kyle> append ! :P
02:50 <Lucifer> looks like it works!
02:50 <Durka> ok
02:50 <ct|kyle> Durka: got any tron servers running yet?
02:50 <Durka> yep
02:50 <Durka> a bunch atm
02:50 <Durka> 6 i think
02:50 <ct|kyle> o0
02:50 <Durka> very good
02:50 <Lucifer> well, I guess I'll go grab a smoke and then cook dinner
02:50 <Durka> #si . sumo
02:50 <@armabot> Durka: .:] Twisted Rats [:. Sumo: Players (5/32): -=VcL.ß¡ggZ, -=}ID< tyler, Bubu, Laaze, raph
02:50 * Lucifer isn't in the mood to eat, though, heh.
02:50 <BabyBug> Lucifer, you said you were gonna quit! :@
02:51 <Durka> BabyBug: where is my web folder o_O
02:51 <Lucifer> I am gonna quit
02:51 <Lucifer> I just haven't yet
02:51 <Lucifer> isn't that what I said last time?
02:51 <ct|kyle> .:] Twisted Rats [:. Fortress (1/32): .:] Corn.
02:51 <BabyBug> Durka, by default, usually /var/www/
02:51 <Lucifer> I probably should, since I can't even pay rent right now, and won't be able to unless I either borrow a ton of money, or start working a new job immediately
02:51 <Durka> hehe i just found it
02:51 <Durka> thnx tho
02:51 <Lucifer> my job at the school starts again tomorrow, though, maybe something will turn up
02:52 <Lucifer> Durka: I recommend you setup a vhost and don't mess with the default vhost
02:52 <Durka> what do u mean
02:52 <Lucifer> I can let you download a vhost file that I use, you can just change a couple of paths and the server name
02:52 <Lucifer> look in /etc/apache2/sites-available
02:53 <Lucifer> you can just copy the default file, change the paths and name
02:53 <Durka> ...meaning
02:53 <ct|kyle> heh 8 non CT server running sty+ct :)
02:53 <Lucifer> then do a2ensite yoursite
02:53 <Lucifer> ok, virtual hosts
02:53 <Durka> ct|kyle: 6 are mine :P
02:53 <Lucifer> there are two ways to have one single machine host many webservers
02:53 <Lucifer> one is for the machine to have several IP addresses
02:53 <Lucifer> the other is to use name-based hosting, when the machine only has one IP address
02:54 <Lucifer> presumably you've only got one IP address, and the default apache2 configuration is for name-basted vhosts
02:54 <Lucifer> in /etc/apache2/sites-available are all of your vhost config files
02:54 <Lucifer> there is only one in the default installation, called "default"
02:54 <ct|kyle> Durka: only 3 say TR
02:54 <Lucifer> if you copy that, then symlink to your copy from /etc/apache2/sites-enabled, and restart apache2, you will have another host
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02:54 <Lucifer> if you do that, you can put the webroot anywhere
02:54 <Durka> ct|kyle: 4 do
02:55 <ct|kyle> ya :P
02:55 <Durka> and im running the 2 VCL ones
02:55 <Lucifer> if you modify the default file in any way, you could have config file merging conflicts whenever you update apache2
02:55 <ct|kyle> ah ok
02:55 <Durka> Lucifer: why do i wanna put the webroot anywhere
02:55 <Durka> whats wrong with where it is
02:55 <Durka> ct|kyle: for server_ip
02:55 <Lucifer> it's a pain to deal with :)
02:55 <Durka> do i have to put a #
02:55 <ct|kyle> i think i miscounted LOL had to have been 9, 2 by smoothice and 1 by id
02:56 <Durka> or can i put durka.ath.cx
02:56 <Lucifer> you'd put durka.ath.cx
02:56 <Lucifer> I have a file you can download that'll be painfully obvious what to change and what you can leave alone
02:56 <Durka> but why do i want to do that?
02:57 <Lucifer> several reasons
02:57 <Durka> o
02:57 <Durka> i think i get it
02:57 <Lucifer> one is because if you install any other web packages, they'll go in /var/www and it fills up
02:57 <Lucifer> another is because apache2 already has lots of stuff in there, and you don't want to delete it or else your package manager will hate you
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02:58 <Durka> ok
02:58 <nsh22> hey hey hey
02:58 <Durka> then send me that file pl0x?
02:58 <Durka> :D
02:58 <Lucifer> change ServerName, ServerAdmin, DocumentRoot, and the path in the <Directory> tag
02:59 <Lucifer> I have a site with a DocumentRoot somewhere in my home directory because it's convenient ;)
02:59 <Lucifer> but I learned awhile back that it's straightforward to have /www/* for websites I host
02:59 <Lucifer> so that's what I do
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03:01 <Durka> ok im totally lost and confused
03:01 <Durka> what do u want me to do?
03:02 <Lucifer> download that file, save it to /etc/apache2/sites-available
03:02 <Lucifer> change the stuff I told you to change to whatever the appropriate values are
03:02 <Lucifer> then:
03:02 <Lucifer> cd /etc/apache2/sites-enabled
03:02 <Lucifer> sudo ln -s ../sites-available/whateveryounamedit 001-whateveryounamedit
03:02 <Lucifer> sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
03:03 <Lucifer> then make the directories to match the new DocumentRoot
03:03 <Lucifer> chown -R durka:www-date /path/to/your/new/docroot
03:03 <Lucifer> er
03:03 <Lucifer> chown -R durka:www-data /path/to/your/new/docroot
03:03 <Lucifer> if you want the webserver to be able to write to it:
03:03 <Lucifer> chmod -R g+w /path/to/your/new/docroot
03:04 <Durka> and why am i doing this
03:04 <Lucifer> to simplify adminning your box
03:04 <Lucifer> look, if it's too complicated for now, don't sweat it
03:04 <Lucifer> I'm just trying to throw out a little tip that I know will save you a lot of headache in the long run, but if it's too much for right now,
03:04 <Lucifer> don't worry about it
03:04 <Lucifer> I'll probably be here when you need to know
03:04 <Durka> in the long run?
03:05 <Lucifer> but you're like me, and you're going to want to run several sites on that server at one point or other, I guarantee it
03:05 <Durka> no
03:05 <Lucifer> yes
03:05 <Lucifer> :)
03:05 <Durka> i dont want to lol
03:05 <Lucifer> maybe not right now, but you will. Oh yes, you will.
03:05 <Durka> i just want to put a few files in the www dir
03:05 <Lucifer> (yoda voice)
03:05 <Durka> ok
03:05 <Durka> when i do
03:05 <Durka> ill come find u :)
03:05 <Lucifer> ok :)
03:05 <Durka> but for now i think im fine
03:05 <BabyBug> or find me!
03:05 <Durka> cuz i got this working
03:05 <Durka> http://durka.ath.cx/test.html
03:06 <Durka> yes or u BabyBug :P
03:06 * BabyBug is actually a genius!
03:07 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: Prove it
03:08 <BabyBug> i don't have to prove anything!
03:09 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: that's right cause your that old fart man with a long beard :P
03:09 <BabyBug> you're*
03:09 <ct|kyle> i knew that
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03:33 <BabyBug> boo
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03:51 <smoothice> BabyBug: why do you ask like such a baby bug
03:51 <BabyBug> ask what?
03:52 <smoothice> act*
03:52 <smoothice> :P
03:52 <BabyBug> nuuuuu not a baby, more like a 10 year old
03:53 <smoothice> haha
03:53 <smoothice> Is that a reality?
03:53 <BabyBug> gosh no
03:53 <BabyBug> lol
03:53 <smoothice> lol
03:54 <BabyBug> on the internet i'm fweeeee....in rl i have responsibilities *growls*
03:54 <smoothice> When you said you acted like a 10 year old I was unsure
03:54 <smoothice> Now I'm sure
03:54 <smoothice> :P
03:54 <BabyBug> lol
03:55 <Durka> ok newest question
03:55 <Durka> so im in /var/ww/
03:55 <Durka> www*
03:55 <smoothice> uh huh
03:55 <Durka> and say i wanna fopen a file thats in
03:56 <Durka> here: /opt/armagetronad/servers/server1/var/
03:56 <Durka> is that possible?
03:56 <BabyBug> Yes
03:56 <smoothice> Yep
03:56 <smoothice> http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=php+file+operations&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
03:56 <BabyBug> as long as the web server user has read permissions to that folder
03:56 <smoothice> or make --vardir the web directory
03:56 <smoothice> that'd work too
03:57 <BabyBug> Then everyone would have free access to the files though (which you might not want) :P
03:57 <smoothice> htaccess
03:57 <smoothice> or apache2.conf
03:57 <smoothice> Nevermind
03:57 <smoothice> lol
04:18 <Lucifer> I must protest this, I am not a merry man!
04:19 <Lucifer> best line in all of star trek, I daresay
04:19 <smoothice> Anyone here want to test something?
04:19 <Lucifer> I'd like to test my penis and make sure it still works
04:20 <smoothice> :O
04:20 <smoothice> excuse me?
04:20 <Lucifer> you asked if anybody wanted to test something...
04:20 <smoothice> I know that IRC is rated PG but not R
04:20 <Lucifer> oh come on, they'd say that on tv
04:21 <smoothice> Would someone be willing to help me test an armagetron server function?
04:21 <Lucifer> oh. I was on my way out, sorry. Wanted to drop in some random shit and then leave ;)
04:21 <smoothice> *sigh*
04:21 <smoothice> fine
04:21 <smoothice> lol
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05:59 <Lucifer> man, my heart's just not in the job search right now :(
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08:19 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: nah… can't even keep a couple of years worth of logs
08:19 <wrtlprnft> plus… i don't get it. Disk space is so cheap these days, it shouldn't be an issue
08:20 <wrtlprnft> grml… who came up with the idea of using split rar files in torrents?
08:22 <wrtlprnft> you can't start watching when it's 90% complete, you have to wait for ages until unrar is done extracting an 8GB file, and then you have everything laying around twice while you're still seeding
08:22 <wrtlprnft> and the amount of compression is negible
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09:02 <BabyBug> wrtlprnft, if you're talking about scene releases then it was the scene. They're rarred up incase of file corruption when the rls' are FXP'd.
09:04 <BabyBug> (obviously they don't create the torrents but the torrent sites usually follow the scene's rules)
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14:35 <zmanuel> The google folks can't decide whether they should use CamelCase or_underscores_in_their_code.
14:36 <zmanuel> There may be some logic to what gets selected in which case, but it eludes me.
15:05 <wrtlprnft> As_longAs_THEYDon'tmixthe_TwoIn_the_sameKeyword…
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15:44 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r805 Conversion pbuffer -> regular nMessage test passed.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r804 Adapted to earlier versions.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r803 Almost got automatic message transformation working....
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16:48 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r806 Refactored a bit....
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17:42 <madmax> #as
17:42 <@armabot> madmax: This data is 6 seconds old; The YELLOW Submarine (12/12), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (11/12), Wild West =Capture The Flag= (10/10), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (9/12), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (8/12), -=Prutopolis=- -=Capture The Flag=- (6/10), WILDCAT (6/8), {Delicious Desserts} Racing II (5/16), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (5/14), |FA| Devils Rings! (4/16), (1 more message)
17:43 <madmax> #sd open su
17:43 <@armabot> madmax: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo: Players (9/12): -»|Xyrøn, CT_emmy, Filip, M$Ç | Rayo, scorpian`, WTF IS A TRON, _-'Ww_Kotton, ¦×¦ Lizmatic
17:50 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r809 Completed automatic transciption.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r808 Refactored.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r807 Impemented streaming from protocol buffer to nMessage comple...
17:56 <luke-jr> zmanuel: I don't think Google wrote most of their now-owned code.
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19:37 <akira_arma> #tea
19:37 <@armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (8/32): cT¬safari, DoCtOr~<(^_^)>~, Epicure, epsy¦×¦ (epsy@x/member), metaz, |x|Cid, ~*DelTa*~, ¦×¦ Black_hat
19:37 <akira_arma> O.o
19:38 <madmax> some time ago it was "empty" => "O.o"
19:39 <akira_arma> wanna play max?
19:39 <madmax> sort of busy heh
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20:25 <BabyBug> #tea
20:25 <@armabot> BabyBug: Fortress Café: Players (11/32): cT¤K-Yo, m0th, metaz, orly?, sine.wav, SNAFU, Zurd~Nw, _-`Ww_ Punish, ·Oddball·, ¦×¦ Hoax (Hoax@x/member), °öMhð
20:25 <BabyBug> #ctos
20:25 <@armabot> BabyBug: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo: Players (0/12):
20:25 <BabyBug> #n9
20:25 <@armabot> BabyBug: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (0/16):
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20:35 <epsy> @ls BabyBug
20:36 * BabyBug slaps epsy
20:36 <epsy> #ls BabyBug
20:36 <@armabot> epsy: BabyBug has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Open Sumo 2 hours 22 minutes ago.
20:36 <epsy> worst choice IMO :D
20:37 <BabyBug> you're opinion sucks =P
20:37 <BabyBug> You proved that when you said no to 3d maps!
20:37 <epsy> I am opinion suck?
20:37 <BabyBug> your*
20:37 <BabyBug> smart arse xD
20:37 <epsy> and I didn't say no to that
20:38 <BabyBug> you so did
20:38 <epsy> I said no to more controls than left/right & brake
20:38 <BabyBug> AND to 3d maps
20:38 <BabyBug> saying that arma is simply a 2d game..
20:38 <epsy> it is
20:38 <BabyBug> Don't make me go through the logs ><
20:39 * Lizmatic still wants GTA: Tron
20:39 <BabyBug> Lizmatic, your opinion is worth even less than epsy's xD
20:40 <Lizmatic> pfff
20:40 <Lizmatic> bitch!
20:40 <BabyBug> slut!
20:41 <Lizmatic> me? lol!
20:41 <BabyBug> yup, and i have the pics to prove it! =P
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20:43 <epsy> woo woo pictures woo woo
20:43 <Lizmatic> wait.. thats such a lie
20:43 <Lizmatic> its vice versa
20:44 <BabyBug> lies!
20:44 <BabyBug> all those pictures you saw were actually you, not me =x
20:44 <Lizmatic> :O
20:44 <Lizmatic> zomg
20:44 <epsy> damn
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21:08 <nsh22> hey
21:09 <freako> hi!
21:10 <K-Yo> oi nsh22
21:10 <nsh22> hey
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21:17 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/neal/race/LifesDecisions-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by neal
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21:22 <nsh22> wow, my new map is harder than i thought
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21:47 <nsh22> anybody here?
21:47 * madmax
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21:50 <epsy> broom
21:51 <nsh22> hey, how do you make winzones not dissapear after somebody goes through them?
21:51 * K-Yo .
21:51 <epsy> um, lol?
21:51 <epsy> why that?
21:52 <K-Yo> nsh22, what happens next?
21:52 <nsh22> huh?
21:53 <K-Yo> nsh22, what's the use of them not disappearing?
21:53 <K-Yo> just design?
21:53 <epsy> well, once the winzone's taken the player who entered wins, and that's it then
21:53 <nsh22> i want them to just stay up so others can get points for cokmmpleteing the race
21:53 <epsy> so why keep it?
21:53 <nsh22> like in DD racing
21:53 <epsy> ask hoop for his code
21:53 <nsh22> kk
21:55 <epsy> http://hoop.altervista.org/race.html
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21:59 <nsh22> ty epsy, ill check it out later
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23:03 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r811 Adaptions to newer protobuf versions.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r810 Reversed build order: basic libraries first....
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23:08 <K-Yo> epsy, il est payant?
23:08 <epsy> non
23:08 <K-Yo> hmmm
23:08 <K-Yo> link?
23:08 <epsy> (credit card needed!)
23:09 <K-Yo> ^o)
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is a site that has tools, maps, and other various items. It orignally only existed as a server control panel, but I slowly began adding stuff such as a homepage and tools.
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This is an LLM-free zone. In general, I am unwilling to use (fight with) any form of "GenAI" to write code for me. So, for the forseeable future, everything on this site will continue to be written by a very silly goose (wait that's me honk honk) with some parts written by other humans as well (silly hu-mon) rather than any plausible-series-of-words token-eating machine. Even my libraries are out of date, and suddenly that's a good thing!
(Although the style has changed several times and content has been added and changed, the base of this site has barely been updated since 2015. But it Ain't Broke!)
This site is also occasionally tested with older browsers, but compatibility is not guarenteed. Although, if you have an old obscure browser and something isn't working that previously did, I guess you can tell me (nelg) about it...
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