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Log from 2009-01-20:
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00:42 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: too little? I always felt VPS had way too much disk space.
00:57 <BabyBug> \o/
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01:01 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r801 Transformed regular chat messages to protocol buffers.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r800 Fixed stupid mistakes and added global protocol buffer versi... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r799 Added network descriptors handling protocol buffers directly... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r798 Got first protobuf to compile. Yay.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetro
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01:27 <Lucifer> oh well
01:27 <Lucifer> they can't start me yet
01:27 <Lucifer> they don't know when they will be able to start me
01:27  * Lucifer is bummed out, now.
01:27 <BabyBug> =(
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01:36 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/ender/squeeze/abmap-1.0.4.aamap.xml: Resource by ender
01:38 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/ender/squeeze/abmap-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by ender
01:39 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/ender/squeeze/abmap-1.0.3.aamap.xml: Resource by ender
01:41 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/ender/squeeze/abmap-1.0.2.aamap.xml: Resource by ender
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01:57 <nsh22> hey
01:58 <ct|kyle> hey
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02:05 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r802 Factored protobuf stuff into own header to avoid full rebuil...
02:10 <BabyBug> Lucifer, they give you a reason why they can't start you yet?
02:24 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/neal/race/WackyRaces-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by neal
02:24 <nsh22> wewt
02:28 <Lucifer> BabyBug: yeah, the job they were expecting to sell didn't sell
02:28 <BabyBug> >< =(
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02:39 <Durka> does anyone know how to install apache web server on linux (debian)
02:41 <BabyBug> apt-get install apache2
02:41 <Durka> its that simple?
02:41 <Durka> and why "apache2" :O
02:42 <BabyBug> If all you want is a simple server, then yup it's that simple
02:42 <BabyBug> because it is apache2 in the repos and not apache1 =)
02:43 <Durka> hehe ok
02:43 <luke-jr> O.o
02:43 <luke-jr> bzr is interesting
02:43 <BabyBug> What made you say that?
02:43 <luke-jr> if I accidentally type 'bzr diff' in a Subversion checkout, bzr imports it
02:43 <BabyBug> I thought you're pro svn? =P
02:47 <Lucifer> don't forget simon_says
02:47 <BabyBug> simon_says
02:47 <BabyBug> bash: simon_says: command not found
02:47 <BabyBug> =(
02:47 <Lucifer> well, I emailed the guy and asked if he could find 10-15 hours/week of work for me, so I don't have to keep looking, and he can keep me close ;)
02:47 <Lucifer> we'll see how that goes, I suppose
02:48  * ct|kyle wonders when the parade will be tomorrow 
02:48 <BabyBug> You should come up with an idea that can earn you money Lucifer!
02:48 <ct|kyle> i want to see the moon rovers :)
02:49 <Durka> BabyBug: thnx!
02:49 <Durka> BabyBug: http://durka.ath.cx
02:49 <BabyBug> Durka, np =)
02:49 <Durka> hehe
02:49 <ct|kyle> Durka: It Works
02:49 <Durka> :P
02:49 <Lucifer> looks like it works
02:49 <Durka> !
02:49 <ct|kyle> append ! :P
02:50 <Lucifer> looks like it works!
02:50 <Durka> ok
02:50 <ct|kyle> Durka: got any tron servers running yet?
02:50 <Durka> yep
02:50 <Durka> a bunch atm
02:50 <Durka> 6 i think
02:50 <ct|kyle> o0
02:50 <Durka> very good
02:50 <Lucifer> well, I guess I'll go grab a smoke and then cook dinner
02:50 <Durka> #si . sumo
02:50 <@armabot> Durka: .:] Twisted Rats [:. Sumo: Players (5/32): -=VcL.ß¡ggZ, -=}ID< tyler, Bubu, Laaze, raph
02:50  * Lucifer isn't in the mood to eat, though, heh.
02:50 <BabyBug> Lucifer, you said you were gonna quit! :@
02:51 <Durka> BabyBug: where is my web folder o_O
02:51 <Lucifer> I am gonna quit
02:51 <Lucifer> I just haven't yet
02:51 <Lucifer> isn't that what I said last time?
02:51 <ct|kyle> .:] Twisted Rats [:. Fortress (1/32):  .:] Corn.
02:51 <BabyBug> Durka, by default, usually /var/www/
02:51 <Lucifer> I probably should, since I can't even pay rent right now, and won't be able to unless I either borrow a ton of money, or start working a new job immediately
02:51 <Durka> hehe i just found it
02:51 <Durka> thnx tho
02:51 <Lucifer> my job at the school starts again tomorrow, though, maybe something will turn up
02:52 <Lucifer> Durka: I recommend you setup a vhost and don't mess with the default vhost
02:52 <Durka> what do u mean
02:52 <Lucifer> I can let you download a vhost file that I use, you can just change a couple of paths and the server name
02:52 <Lucifer> look in /etc/apache2/sites-available
02:53 <Lucifer> you can just copy the default file, change the paths and name
02:53 <Durka> ...meaning
02:53 <ct|kyle> heh 8 non CT server running sty+ct :)
02:53 <Lucifer> then do a2ensite yoursite
02:53 <Lucifer> ok, virtual hosts
02:53 <Durka> ct|kyle: 6 are mine :P
02:53 <Lucifer> there are two ways to have one single machine host many webservers
02:53 <Lucifer> one is for the machine to have several IP addresses
02:53 <Lucifer> the other is to use name-based hosting, when the machine only has one IP address
02:54 <Lucifer> presumably you've only got one IP address, and the default apache2 configuration is for name-basted vhosts
02:54 <Lucifer> in /etc/apache2/sites-available are all of your vhost config files
02:54 <Lucifer> there is only one in the default installation, called "default"
02:54 <ct|kyle> Durka: only 3 say TR
02:54 <Lucifer> if you copy that, then symlink to your copy from /etc/apache2/sites-enabled, and restart apache2, you will have another host
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02:54 <Lucifer> if you do that, you can put the webroot anywhere
02:54 <Durka> ct|kyle: 4 do
02:55 <ct|kyle> ya :P
02:55 <Durka> and im running the 2 VCL ones
02:55 <Lucifer> if you modify the default file in any way, you could have config file merging conflicts whenever you update apache2
02:55 <ct|kyle> ah ok
02:55 <Durka> Lucifer: why do i wanna put the webroot anywhere
02:55 <Durka> whats wrong with where it is
02:55 <Durka> ct|kyle: for server_ip
02:55 <Lucifer> it's a pain to deal with :)
02:55 <Durka> do i have to put a #
02:55 <ct|kyle> i think i miscounted LOL had to have been 9, 2 by smoothice and 1 by id
02:56 <Durka> or can i put durka.ath.cx
02:56 <Lucifer> you'd put durka.ath.cx
02:56 <Lucifer> I have a file you can download that'll be painfully obvious what to change and what you can leave alone
02:56 <Durka> but why do i want to do that?
02:57 <Lucifer> several reasons
02:57 <Durka> o
02:57 <Durka> i think i get it
02:57 <Lucifer> one is because if you install any other web packages, they'll go in /var/www and it fills up
02:57 <Lucifer> another is because apache2 already has lots of stuff in there, and you don't want to delete it or else your package manager will hate you
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02:58 <Durka> ok
02:58 <nsh22> hey hey hey
02:58 <Durka> then send me that file pl0x?
02:58 <Durka> :D
02:58 <Lucifer> change ServerName, ServerAdmin, DocumentRoot, and the path in the <Directory> tag
02:59 <Lucifer> I have a site with a DocumentRoot somewhere in my home directory because it's convenient ;)
02:59 <Lucifer> but I learned awhile back that it's straightforward to have /www/* for websites I host
02:59 <Lucifer> so that's what I do
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03:01 <Durka> ok im totally lost and confused
03:01 <Durka> what do u want me to do?
03:02 <Lucifer> download that file, save it to /etc/apache2/sites-available
03:02 <Lucifer> change the stuff I told you to change to whatever the appropriate values are
03:02 <Lucifer> then:
03:02 <Lucifer> cd /etc/apache2/sites-enabled
03:02 <Lucifer> sudo ln -s ../sites-available/whateveryounamedit 001-whateveryounamedit
03:02 <Lucifer> sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
03:03 <Lucifer> then make the directories to match the new DocumentRoot
03:03 <Lucifer> chown -R durka:www-date /path/to/your/new/docroot
03:03 <Lucifer> er
03:03 <Lucifer> chown -R durka:www-data /path/to/your/new/docroot
03:03 <Lucifer> if you want the webserver to be able to write to it:
03:03 <Lucifer> chmod -R g+w /path/to/your/new/docroot
03:04 <Durka> and why am i doing this
03:04 <Lucifer> to simplify adminning your box
03:04 <Lucifer> look, if it's too complicated for now, don't sweat it
03:04 <Lucifer> I'm just trying to throw out a little tip that I know will save you a lot of headache in the long run, but if it's too much for right now,
03:04 <Lucifer> don't worry about it
03:04 <Lucifer> I'll probably be here when you need to know
03:04 <Durka> in the long run?
03:05 <Lucifer> but you're like me, and you're going to want to run several sites on that server at one point or other, I guarantee it
03:05 <Durka> no
03:05 <Lucifer> yes
03:05 <Lucifer> :)
03:05 <Durka> i dont want to lol
03:05 <Lucifer> maybe not right now, but you will.  Oh yes, you will.
03:05 <Durka> i just want to put a few files in the www dir
03:05 <Lucifer> (yoda voice)
03:05 <Durka> ok
03:05 <Durka> when i do
03:05 <Durka> ill come find u :)
03:05 <Lucifer> ok :)
03:05 <Durka> but for now i think im fine
03:05 <BabyBug> or find me!
03:05 <Durka> cuz i got this working
03:05 <Durka> http://durka.ath.cx/test.html
03:06 <Durka> yes or u BabyBug :P
03:06  * BabyBug is actually a genius!
03:07 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: Prove it
03:08 <BabyBug> i don't have to prove anything!
03:09 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: that's right cause your that old fart man with a long beard :P
03:09 <BabyBug> you're*
03:09 <ct|kyle> i knew that
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03:33 <BabyBug> boo
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03:51 <smoothice> BabyBug: why do you ask like such a baby bug
03:51 <BabyBug> ask what?
03:52 <smoothice> act*
03:52 <smoothice> :P
03:52 <BabyBug> nuuuuu not a baby, more like a 10 year old
03:53 <smoothice> haha
03:53 <smoothice> Is that a reality?
03:53 <BabyBug> gosh no
03:53 <BabyBug> lol
03:53 <smoothice> lol
03:54 <BabyBug> on the internet i'm fweeeee....in rl i have responsibilities *growls*
03:54 <smoothice> When you said you acted like a 10 year old I was unsure
03:54 <smoothice> Now I'm sure
03:54 <smoothice> :P
03:54 <BabyBug> lol
03:55 <Durka> ok newest question
03:55 <Durka> so im in /var/ww/
03:55 <Durka> www*
03:55 <smoothice> uh huh
03:55 <Durka> and say i wanna fopen a file thats in
03:56 <Durka> here: /opt/armagetronad/servers/server1/var/
03:56 <Durka> is that possible?
03:56 <BabyBug> Yes
03:56 <smoothice> Yep
03:56 <smoothice> http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=php+file+operations&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
03:56 <BabyBug> as long as the web server user has read permissions to that folder
03:56 <smoothice> or make --vardir the web directory
03:56 <smoothice> that'd work too
03:57 <BabyBug> Then everyone would have free access to the files though (which you might not want) :P
03:57 <smoothice> htaccess
03:57 <smoothice> or apache2.conf
03:57 <smoothice> Nevermind
03:57 <smoothice> lol
04:18 <Lucifer> I must protest this, I am not a merry man!
04:19 <Lucifer> best line in all of star trek, I daresay
04:19 <smoothice> Anyone here want to test something?
04:19 <Lucifer> I'd like to test my penis and make sure it still works
04:20 <smoothice> :O
04:20 <smoothice> excuse me?
04:20 <Lucifer> you asked if anybody wanted to test something...
04:20 <smoothice> I know that IRC is rated PG but not R
04:20 <Lucifer> oh come on, they'd say that on tv
04:21 <smoothice> Would someone be willing to help me test an armagetron server function?
04:21 <Lucifer> oh.  I was on my way out, sorry.  Wanted to drop in some random shit and then leave ;)
04:21 <smoothice> *sigh*
04:21 <smoothice> fine
04:21 <smoothice> lol
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05:59 <Lucifer> man, my heart's just not in the job search right now :(
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08:19 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: nah… can't even keep a couple of years worth of logs
08:19 <wrtlprnft> plus… i don't get it. Disk space is so cheap these days, it shouldn't be an issue
08:20 <wrtlprnft> grml… who came up with the idea of using split rar files in torrents?
08:22 <wrtlprnft> you can't start watching when it's 90% complete, you have to wait for ages until unrar is done extracting an 8GB file, and then you have everything laying around twice while you're still seeding
08:22 <wrtlprnft> and the amount of compression is negible
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09:02 <BabyBug> wrtlprnft, if you're talking about scene releases then it was the scene. They're rarred up incase of file corruption when the rls' are FXP'd.
09:04 <BabyBug> (obviously they don't create the torrents but the torrent sites usually follow the scene's rules)
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14:35 <zmanuel> The google folks can't decide whether they should use CamelCase or_underscores_in_their_code.
14:36 <zmanuel> There may be some logic to what gets selected in which case, but it eludes me.
15:05 <wrtlprnft> As_longAs_THEYDon'tmixthe_TwoIn_the_sameKeyword…
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15:44 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r805 Conversion pbuffer -> regular nMessage test passed.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r804 Adapted to earlier versions.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r803 Almost got automatic message transformation working....
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16:48 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r806 Refactored a bit....
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17:42 <madmax> #as
17:42 <@armabot> madmax: This data is 6 seconds old; The YELLOW Submarine (12/12), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (11/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (9/12), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (8/12), -=Prutopolis=- -=Capture The Flag=- (6/10), WILDCAT (6/8), {Delicious Desserts} Racing II (5/16), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (5/14), |FA| Devils Rings! (4/16), (1 more message)
17:43 <madmax> #sd open su
17:43 <@armabot> madmax: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo: Players (9/12): -»|Xyrøn, CT_emmy, Filip, M$Ç | Rayo, scorpian`, WTF IS A TRON, _-'Ww_Kotton, ¦×¦ Lizmatic
17:50 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r809 Completed automatic transciption.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r808 Refactored.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r807 Impemented streaming from protocol buffer to nMessage comple...
17:56 <luke-jr> zmanuel: I don't think Google wrote most of their now-owned code.
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19:37 <akira_arma> #tea
19:37 <@armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (8/32): cT¬safari, DoCtOr~<(^_^)>~, Epicure, epsy¦×¦ (epsy@x/member), metaz, |x|Cid, ~*DelTa*~, ¦×¦ Black_hat
19:37 <akira_arma> O.o
19:38 <madmax> some time ago it was "empty" => "O.o"
19:39 <akira_arma> wanna play max?
19:39 <madmax> sort of busy heh
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20:25 <BabyBug> #tea
20:25 <@armabot> BabyBug: Fortress Café: Players (11/32): cT¤K-Yo, m0th, metaz, orly?, sine.wav, SNAFU, Zurd~Nw, _-`Ww_ Punish,  ·Oddball·, ¦×¦ Hoax (Hoax@x/member), °öMhð
20:25 <BabyBug> #ctos
20:25 <@armabot> BabyBug: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo: Players (0/12):
20:25 <BabyBug> #n9
20:25 <@armabot> BabyBug: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (0/16):
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20:35 <epsy> @ls BabyBug
20:36  * BabyBug slaps epsy 
20:36 <epsy> #ls BabyBug
20:36 <@armabot> epsy: BabyBug has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Open Sumo 2 hours 22 minutes ago.
20:36 <epsy> worst choice IMO :D
20:37 <BabyBug> you're opinion sucks =P
20:37 <BabyBug> You proved that when you said no to 3d maps!
20:37 <epsy> I am opinion suck?
20:37 <BabyBug> your*
20:37 <BabyBug> smart arse xD
20:37 <epsy> and I didn't say no to that
20:38 <BabyBug> you so did
20:38 <epsy> I said no to more controls than left/right & brake
20:38 <BabyBug> AND to 3d maps
20:38 <BabyBug> saying that arma is simply a 2d game..
20:38 <epsy> it is
20:38 <BabyBug> Don't make me go through the logs ><
20:39  * Lizmatic still wants GTA: Tron
20:39 <BabyBug> Lizmatic, your opinion is worth even less than epsy's xD
20:40 <Lizmatic> pfff
20:40 <Lizmatic> bitch!
20:40 <BabyBug> slut!
20:41 <Lizmatic> me? lol!
20:41 <BabyBug> yup, and i have the pics to prove it! =P
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20:43 <epsy> woo woo pictures woo woo
20:43 <Lizmatic> wait.. thats such a lie
20:43 <Lizmatic> its vice versa
20:44 <BabyBug> lies!
20:44 <BabyBug> all those pictures you saw were actually you, not me =x
20:44 <Lizmatic> :O
20:44 <Lizmatic> zomg
20:44 <epsy> damn
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21:08 <nsh22> hey
21:09 <freako> hi!
21:10 <K-Yo> oi nsh22
21:10 <nsh22> hey
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21:17 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/neal/race/LifesDecisions-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by neal
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21:22 <nsh22> wow, my new map is harder than i thought
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21:47 <nsh22> anybody here?
21:47  * madmax 
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21:50 <epsy> broom
21:51 <nsh22> hey, how do you make winzones not dissapear after somebody goes through them?
21:51  * K-Yo .
21:51 <epsy> um, lol?
21:51 <epsy> why that?
21:52 <K-Yo> nsh22, what happens next?
21:52 <nsh22> huh?
21:53 <K-Yo> nsh22, what's the use of them not disappearing?
21:53 <K-Yo> just design?
21:53 <epsy> well, once the winzone's taken the player who entered wins, and that's it then
21:53 <nsh22> i want them to just stay up so others can get points for cokmmpleteing the race
21:53 <epsy> so why keep it?
21:53 <nsh22> like in DD racing
21:53 <epsy> ask hoop for his code
21:53 <nsh22> kk
21:55 <epsy> http://hoop.altervista.org/race.html
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21:59 <nsh22> ty epsy, ill check it out later
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23:03 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r811 Adaptions to newer protobuf versions.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r810 Reversed build order: basic libraries first....
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23:08 <K-Yo> epsy, il est payant?
23:08 <epsy> non
23:08 <K-Yo> hmmm
23:08 <K-Yo> link?
23:08 <epsy> (credit card needed!)
23:09 <K-Yo> ^o)
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