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Log from 2009-01-19:
--- Day changed Mon Jan 19 2009
00:00 <Genki> Flex O.io
00:00 <Genki> O.o
00:00 <Flex> hey
00:00 <Flex> long time no see..
00:02 <Genki> yeah no kiddin
00:02 <Genki> what's up?
00:02 <Flex> nothing
00:02 <Flex> you?
00:03 <Genki> not much, you know babybug? lol
00:03 <BabyBug> Best not go there Genki ;)
00:03 <Flex> what about her?
00:03 <Lizmatic> oh no..
00:03 <Lizmatic> no no no
00:03 <Lizmatic> LOL
00:04 <Genki> lalalala
00:04 <Lizmatic> Genki, BabyBug and Flex are in a relationship, but its not going very well :(
00:04 <Genki> oh liz is here
00:04  * Genki zips mouth
00:04  * BabyBug slaps Lizmatic
00:04 -!- nsh22 [n=nsh22@bas3-barrie18-1176218160.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #armagetron
00:04  * Lizmatic cuddles BabyBug tightly
00:04 <nsh22> hey heyhey
00:04 <nsh22> lol
00:05  * BabyBug fondles Lizmatic 
00:05 <Genki> heya
00:05 <nsh22> 0.0
00:05 <Genki> don't worry
00:05 <nsh22> hey genki
00:05 <Genki> it's normal
00:05 <nsh22> lol
00:05 <Flex> Genki
00:05 <Flex> http://armagetron.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,208.15.html
00:05 <nsh22> its normal to cyber on an tro n irc?
00:05 <Genki> just a lil foreplay
00:05 <Genki> no worries
00:05 <nsh22> lol
00:05 <Flex> this is what this channel has turned into..
00:05 <nsh22> wear a condom ;)
00:06 <Genki> flex: I hate you
00:06 <Flex> if only she thought of that
00:06 <luke-jr> ]later tell taz "free SIP network" = the Internet
00:06 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
00:06 <Lizmatic> thats a low thing to say
00:06 <Genki> wear a 'today sponge'
00:06 <Lizmatic> but whatever, couldve expected it from you right?
00:06 <Flex> i speak the truth
00:07 <Lizmatic> even if a comment like that can hurt my feelings?
00:07 <Genki> wait how do you play bubble trouble again?
00:07 <nsh22> ??
00:08 <PinkTomato> you blow bubbles
00:08 <PinkTomato> and jump on bubbles!
00:08 <nsh22> lol
00:08 <nsh22> pink, do u have a map rotator?
00:08 <PinkTomato> and admire on how on earth they made dinosaurs cute
00:08 <luke-jr> nsh22: #Luke-JrIsAnAsshat
00:08 <nsh22> ?
00:08 <PinkTomato> nsh22: can you run ct+Sty?
00:09 <Lizmatic> #Luke-JrIsAnAsshat
00:09 <Lizmatic> oO
00:09 <nsh22> what is that?
00:09 <luke-jr> nsh22: channel
00:09 <nsh22> o i c
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00:10 <PinkTomato> nsh22: rotate chat here :)
00:10  * nsh22 is gonna get VERY confuzzled
00:11 <PinkTomato> hehe :), I already am
00:11 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: can you run sty+ct?
00:11 <PinkTomato> no wait
00:11 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: ofc
00:11 <PinkTomato> but mine works on sql.
00:11 <luke-jr> …
00:11 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8859 /armagetronad/branches/utf8/armagetronad/ (. src/render/rFont.cpp src/render/rFont.h):
00:12 <armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
00:12 <armabot> armagetronad: Made it so that the cursor position always is in storage units (char
00:12 <armabot> armagetronad: or wchar_t) and not characters visible on screen, and clarified it in
00:12 <armabot> armagetronad: the comments.
00:12 <PinkTomato> Yeah, sorry luke-jr should have mentioned that first :)
00:12 <PinkTomato> um... I'll change it to .csv
00:12 <Flex> luke-jr well she's no angel either..
00:13 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8860 /armagetronad/branches/utf8/armagetronad/ (. src/tools/tString.cpp): Manuel Moos: Small optimization :)
00:14 <PinkTomato> nsh22: you could use 0.3
00:14 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8861 /armagetronad/branches/utf8/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/ePlayer.cpp src/ui/uMenu.cpp src/ui/uMenu.h): Manuel Moos: Got rid of redundant cursorPos variable.
00:14 <PinkTomato> MAP_ROTATION function
00:14 <nsh22> possibly
00:14 <PinkTomato> what sort of rotation do you want?
00:14 <Flex> are you playing it Genki?
00:14 <Flex> like.. you turn right and left and stuff..
00:15 <Genki> yeah after I play yandere though
00:16 <nsh22> what rotation do i want? maps
00:16 -!- MaZuffeR [n=mazuffer@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has quit ["Ex-Chat"]
00:16 <PinkTomato> i mean, in a random order?
00:16 <PinkTomato> or a sequential order?
00:16 <Flex> @m Lackadaisical http://armagetron.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=arcade;sa=highscore;game=469;start=0
00:16 <PinkTomato> I think using 0.3 would be easier
00:17 <Flex> #m Lackadaisical http://armagetron.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=arcade;sa=highscore;game=469;start=0
00:17 <armabot> Flex: The operation succeeded.
00:17 -!- notlizmatic [n=Lizmatic@78-27-12-206.dsl.alice.nl] has joined #armagetron
00:17 <PinkTomato> hi notlizmatic
00:17 <notlizmatic> o/
00:17 <PinkTomato> o/ :)
00:17 -!- CrAsHeD [n=crashed@user-1120u7f.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #armagetron
00:17 <Flex> hey there.. asl
00:18 <CrAsHeD> heh
00:18 <Flex> not you :p
00:18 <CrAsHeD> gonna rape me flex?  xD
00:18 <notlizmatic> he's a turk, so he'll rob you first and then rape
00:18 <CrAsHeD> is luci here?
00:18 <Flex> haha :p
00:18 <CrAsHeD> hahaha
00:18 <Flex> fair now?
00:18 <Lucifer> yes, what do you want?
00:18 <CrAsHeD> :o
00:18 -!- notlizmatic is now known as Lizmatic
00:19 <Lizmatic> btw Genki what are you doing in irc lately xD
00:19 <CrAsHeD> Jenny's here?  Hai again jenny :D
00:19 <Genki> finally found the time to set it up lol
00:20 <CrAsHeD> #lr CrAsHeD
00:20 <CrAsHeD> #si open sumo
00:20 <armabot> CrAsHeD: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo: Players (0/12):
00:20 <Flex> luke-jr, you can remove the space i guess.. i don't need it anymore
00:20 <Flex> well, i got somewhere else, so can save you some bandwidth
00:21 <luke-jr> say wat
00:24 <Lizmatic> going to bed (ps: I hate you all)
00:24 <Lizmatic> xxx
00:24 <PinkTomato> night Lizmatic :(
00:26 <nsh22> ok so back to the topic of rotation
00:27 <sinewav> gn Liz
00:27 <ct|kyle> #weather 46814
00:27 <armabot> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Tanbark, Fort Wayne, Indiana is 12.9°F (6:15 PM EST on January 18, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 5.0°F. Windchill: 12.2°F. Pressure: 29.81 in 1009.4 hPa (Rising).
00:27 <ct|kyle> it's not cold anymore
00:28 <nsh22> #weather innisfil
00:28 <armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Innisfil, Innisfil, Ontario is 23.2°F (6:28 PM EST on January 18, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 19.4°F. Windchill: 23.0°F. Pressure: 28.73 in 972.8 hPa (Falling).
00:28 <nsh22> it actual;ly got warm enough to snow today
00:28 <PinkTomato> #weather Brighton, UK
00:28 <armabot> PinkTomato: The current temperature in Preston Park, Brighton, United Kingdom is 45.1°F (10:39 PM GMT on January 18, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 42.8°F. Windchill: 44.6°F. Pressure: 29.49 in 998.5 hPa (Falling).
00:28 <nsh22> thats hot compared to here
00:28 <tramshed> #weather chicago, il
00:29 <PinkTomato> hehe
00:29 <ct|kyle> that's too hot :P
00:29 <armabot> tramshed: The current temperature in U.S. Cellular Field, Chicago, Illinois is 18.1°F (5:20 PM CST on January 18, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 6.8°F. Windchill: 17.6°F. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009.0 hPa (Rising).
00:29 <nsh22> it was -30C every day all last week
00:29 <PinkTomato> ouch
00:29 <nsh22> balmy
00:29 <tramshed> heh
00:29 <nsh22> #weather hell
00:29 <tramshed> we hit -30F the other day here
00:29 <armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Main Street, Brighton, Michigan is 17.8°F (6:29 PM EST on January 18, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 14.0°F. Windchill: 17.6°F. Pressure: 29.69 in 1005.3 hPa (Steady).
00:29 <tramshed> hell is in michigan
00:29 <nsh22> haha
00:29 <ct|kyle> sinewav: yet again you can't complain :P
00:29 <PinkTomato> In Brighton O_o
00:30 <nsh22> #g -30C in F
00:30 <armabot> nsh22: (-30) degrees Celsius = -22 degrees Fahrenheit
00:30 <tramshed> #g -30F in C
00:30 <armabot> tramshed: (-30) degrees Fahrenheit = -34.4444444 degrees Celsius
00:30 <nsh22> #g -30f in c
00:30 <armabot> nsh22: (-30) degrees Fahrenheit = -34.4444444 degrees Celsius
00:30 <ct|kyle> it was almost that on friday
00:30 <nsh22> not bad
00:30 <tramshed> thats a lot of fours.
00:30 <madmax> bubbletrouble is a bad ripoff of pang :(
00:30 <nsh22> it was goddamned close here
00:30 <tramshed> we ate blizzard
00:30 <Flex> yeah, just because you suck at it
00:31 <tramshed> canada was like here, have our polar circles
00:31 <Flex> actually, you're right
00:31 <nsh22> lol we share
00:31 <Flex> but still
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00:31 <Flex> madmax, beat me..
00:32  * sinewav enjoys the heatwave
00:32  * nsh22 slaps the heat wave and replaces it with an icecube
00:34 -!- sinewav is now known as sinewav_pooping
00:35 <Flex> madmax, do you have what it takes.. or should i just go bed..
00:35  * CrAsHeD laughs
00:36 <madmax> flash games.... no thanks
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00:36 <ct|kyle> anyone want to play some flag fort?
00:36 <ct|kyle> #si flag fortress
00:36 <armabot> ct|kyle: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “flag fortress” at the moment, sorry.
00:36 <ct|kyle> o0
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00:40 <Lucifer> it's very hard to learn your way around a toolkit when your kids keep asking you to tell them if they're making legal chess moves
00:40 <BabyBug> give them a rule book!
00:41 <nsh22> lol
00:41 <nsh22> i like chess
00:41 <ct|kyle> make them play checkers instead :P
00:41 <nsh22> haha
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00:41 <nsh22> make the m play 3d chess
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00:42 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/slyshot/cell-1.aamap.xml: Resource by slyshot
00:42 -!- Genki [n=genki@ip70-176-82-12.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit ["Leaving."]
00:43 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8862 /armagetronad/branches/utf8/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/ePlayer.cpp): Manuel Moos: Adapted serverside player name length limitation to utf8 strings.
00:44 <PinkTomato> what does that mean?
00:44 <nsh22> lol
00:47 <sinewav_pooping> #si flag fortress
00:47 <armabot> sinewav_pooping: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “flag fortress” at the moment, sorry.
00:47 -!- sinewav_pooping is now known as sinewav
00:47 <nsh22> lol i was about to ask....
00:47 <ct|kyle> no :( Genki left
00:47 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/slyshot/cell-2.aamap.xml: Resource by slyshot
00:49 -!- Concord [n=Concord@pool-72-93-80-204.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron
00:49 <nsh22> hey concord
00:49 <Concord> heya
00:50 <Concord> saw a lot of zurd on the grids today
00:50 <nsh22> any other signups yet?
00:50 <nsh22> lol
00:50 <Concord> hmm
00:51 <ct|kyle> Concord: we are up to 5
00:51 <Concord> for ctwf?
00:51 <ct|kyle> ya
00:51 <Concord> cool\
00:51 <PinkTomato> CTWF v CT?
00:51 <Concord> how long has it been?
00:52 <ct|kyle> 2 or 3 days
00:52 <ct|kyle> I'm going to do a little something different though
00:53 <PinkTomato> where do you sign up O_o?
00:53 <nsh22> join #Luke-JrIsAnAssHat
00:54 <nsh22> pink get in on the action
00:56 <armabot> armacommits: [0.3.1] r789 Removed accidental suppression of help messages on OS X.... || [utf8-armagetronad-work] r811 Adapted serverside player name length limitation to utf8 str... || [utf8-armagetronad-work] r810 Got rid of redundant cursorPos variable.... || [utf8-armagetronad-work] r809 Small optimization :)... || [utf8-armagetronad-work] r808 Made it so that the cursor position always is in storage uni...
01:02 <nsh22> nite all
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01:11 <madmax> Concord: I don't think BabyBug is one of the developers :p
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01:11 <BabyBug> ?!
01:11 <Concord> no?
01:12 <PinkTomato> BabyBug fixed a bug
01:12 <madmax> lol
01:12 <CrAsHeD> Can anyone tell me what this command does?  CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE
01:12  * BabyBug is confused
01:12 <Concord> the minimal distance you can be from a wall
01:12 <PinkTomato> #cfg2 cycle_rubber_mindistance
01:12 <armabot> PinkTomato: CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE: The minimal distance rubber code keeps you from the wall in front of you || CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE_GAP: If > 0, CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE effectively is never taken to be bigger than this value times the size of any detected gaps the cylce can squeeze through. For "Open" gameplay. || CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE_GAP_OVERRIDE: (5 more messages)
01:12 <madmax> BabyBug: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18981
01:13 <PinkTomato> it means it is worse than high rubber
01:13 <PinkTomato> you can't even hit the wall
01:13 <sinewav> ...
01:13 <BabyBug> Oh erm..
01:13 <BabyBug> lol Concord you twit
01:13 <BabyBug> =P
01:13 <Concord> i'll edit
01:13 <CrAsHeD> what about this one?  CYCLE_RUBBER_MINADJUST
01:14 <armabot> CrAsHeD: CYCLE_RUBBER_MINADJUST: When adjusting to or 180ing into a wall, allow going closer by at least this amount (relative to the last distance) || CYCLE_RUBBER_MINADJUST_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_RUBBER_MINADJUST differs from its default?
01:14 <CrAsHeD> i dont get this?
01:14 <BabyBug> awww don't edit Concord...it's funny to laugh at you =P
01:15 <BabyBug> Everyone always thinks i'm someone i'm not =(
01:15 <BabyBug> And then it seems like i'm a let down when they find out
01:15 <BabyBug> *cries*
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01:16 <madmax> it's a good idea for a team though :D I think it's about time too
01:17 <CrAsHeD> heya smoothice
01:21 <BabyBug> Are the devs actually any good at the game? :P
01:21 <smoothice> CrAsHeD: I know you?
01:23 <smoothice> CrAsHeD: ??????
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01:23 <CrAsHeD> LOL!
01:23 <CrAsHeD> nevar!
01:24 <CrAsHeD> u got yer servers set up yet smoothice?
01:26 <CrAsHeD> #cfg2 cycle_rubber_malus_time
01:26 <CrAsHeD> eh
01:26 <CrAsHeD> #cfg2 cycle_rubber_mindistance_unprepared
01:26 <armabot> CrAsHeD: CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE_UNPREPARED: Additional distance for unprepared grinds; it gets applied when the cycle's last turn was just a fraction of a second ago and faded out preparation times larger than CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE_PREPARATION. || CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE_UNPREPARED_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE_UNPREPARED differs from its default?
01:26 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: dident you hear Lucifer say he was tooo good at high rubber he got kicked
01:27 <BabyBug> ...
01:27 <ct|kyle> mmmmmmmmm popcorn
01:28 <PinkTomato> popcorn smells
01:29 <PinkTomato> well the microwave stuff does
01:29 <ct|kyle> this isen't that bad stff
01:29 <smoothice> CrAsHeD: sortof
01:30 <smoothice> PinkTomato: yeah the microwave kind causes cancer if you eat it 4-5 times a day over many days :P
01:32  * sinewav is jealous of kyle's popcorn
01:32 <PinkTomato> smoothice: what do Microwave's taste like? Never tried
01:32 <ct|kyle> like 1/5 cancer :P
01:34 <sinewav> ct|kyle: oh yeah, forgot about that
01:35 <sinewav> I should probably but "real" popcorn since I don't have a microwave
01:35 <sinewav> `buy*
01:36 <ct|kyle> real popcorn is what i'm having
01:36 <sinewav> 0_o from where is the cancer?
01:36 <ct|kyle> not in mine
01:36 <sinewav> ah I see!
01:37 <sinewav> `good for you
01:37 <ct|kyle> i wonder if ` is talk on tron for sinewav
01:38 <sinewav> ya think?
01:38 <ct|kyle> ya
01:39 <Concord> smoothice are you playing with NW in the ladle?
01:39 <smoothice> Concord: Nope
01:39 <PinkTomato> #aawiki ladle
01:39 <armabot> PinkTomato: Search took 0.35 seconds: Ladle -8/Challenge Board - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Ladle-8/Challenge_Board>; Ladle -10/Challenge Board - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Ladle-10/Challenge_Board>; Ladle - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Ladle>; Category: Ladle (3 more messages)
01:39 <Concord> no?
01:39 <Concord> I've seen you in fort a couple times
01:39 <Concord> your busy that day?
01:40 <smoothice> ???
01:40 <smoothice> I'm not personal work right now...
01:40 <Concord> why not play in it?
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01:41 <ct|kyle> Concord: what type of Bowl message should i add to CTWF
01:42 <Concord> 0xff8811The 0x99ccff TRONIC Bowl 0xff8811 will be played on 0xffffffJune 7th, 2009.
01:42 <Concord> wait theres more
01:43 <Concord> a second line
01:43 <ct|kyle> i'm adding it into script :P
01:44 <Concord> 0x4466b0The Bowl is a 32 team Fortress tournament. Each team has 8 players. 0xff8811Could your team win it?
01:45 <ct|kyle> i'll have to make that 3 lines
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01:48 <smoothice> zurd: hi
01:48 <zurd> hey
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01:52 <Concord> smoothice why not play?
01:53 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8865 /armagetronad/branches/utf8/armagetronad/ (. src/render/rFont.cpp): Manuel Moos: Fixed text alignment.
01:59 <P4> http://armagetron.pl/styball ← check out the current SVG preview untill the server is empty… what is that spiral? oO is that look like a bug?
01:59 <smoothice> Concord: I'm... just... not... playing at the moment? I don't know
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01:59 <PinkTomato> is that each time a player moves?
02:00 <armabot> armacommits: [utf8-armagetronad-work] r812 Fixed text alignment.... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r793 Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 8854 to 8863:... || [0.3.1] r791 Fixed versioning for 0.3.1 branch.... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r989 Worked around SDL/input system bug: composite characters (" ... || [0.3.1] r790 Merge r784 from trunk...
02:00 <Concord> hmm, yeah, perhaps tho you would join your clan to play on that sunday, for fun
02:01 <sinewav> :o
02:03 <ct|kyle> P4: we were talking about that today when the brawl was happening
02:04 <P4> strange
02:04 <Concord> the grid image was teh hotness, btw
02:04 <Concord> soooo great
02:04 <sinewav> oh yeah I agree
02:04 <ct|kyle> #cfg2 command_acc
02:05 <armabot> ct|kyle: Sorry, no matches :S
02:05 <sinewav> `I wish I could see the score though :(
02:05 <ct|kyle> #cfg2 Access
02:05 <Concord> yeah & on my safari it didn't refersh automatically
02:05 <armabot> ct|kyle: ACCESS_LEVEL: Changes the access level of a configuration item to make it available to lower ranked users || ACCESS_LEVEL_ADMIN: Minimal access level for /admin command. || ACCESS_LEVEL_CHAT: Minimal access level for chatting. || ACCESS_LEVEL_CHAT_TIMEOUT: Time in seconds between public announcements that someone wants to chat, but can't. Set to 0 to disable the public warnings. || (7 more messages)
02:05 <sinewav> it was like watching ESPN gamecase or something
02:05 <sinewav> gamecast*
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02:06 <PinkTomato> does anyone think increasing max_out_rate might make servers less laggy?
02:07 <PinkTomato> and what would be really cool, is if we could get it to draw the lines in real-time :D
02:07 <smoothice> max_out_rate isn't latency related..
02:07 <ct|kyle> sinewav: you want something like http://plantpeanuts.co.uk/flowersumo/
02:08 <PinkTomato> smoothice: it can be
02:08 <PinkTomato> if it tries to send out more data than is allowed
02:08 <smoothice> I guess...
02:08 <PinkTomato> then it will have to delay the send wouldn't it?
02:11 <PinkTomato> ah, its way higher anyway, seems to only effect the round loading
02:15 <sinewav> ct|kyle: yes, that's EXACTLY what I'm talking about.
02:18 <zurd> SINCLUDE settings_pig_sty_ctf.cfg
02:18 <zurd> oups, sorry
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02:21 <ct|kyle> sinewav: That took ed a lot of work to do
02:22 <sinewav> `yeah I bet
02:22 <sinewav> damn that `
02:22 <sinewav> ` ` ` ` `
02:22 <sinewav> grr
02:23 <ct|kyle> lol you played too much tron today :P
02:24 <sinewav> too much everyday. -.-
02:24 <ct|kyle> i use up arrow (so no one knows if i start trying to use it here)
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02:24 <ct|kyle> you still gotta get a rank in CT
02:24 <sinewav> oh yeah
02:24 <sinewav> wanna fight?
02:25 <ct|kyle> sinewav: i'm too far ahead LOL
02:25 <sinewav> oh!
02:26 <sinewav> ok I'll look into that rank stuff. I've suddenly become quite busy.
02:29 <ct|kyle> i'm either going to go after concord or safa
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02:29 <ct|kyle> no GodTodd come back
02:30 <smoothice> lol
02:30 <smoothice> that helps a lot doesn't it...
02:30 <ct|kyle> #ctwf
02:30 <armabot> ct|kyle: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: Players (5/14): Epicure, kenji, nellio, X-Act0, ~*Sasha*~
02:30 <ct|kyle> :/ To crash it or not to crash it
02:30 <smoothice> #help ctwf
02:30 <armabot> smoothice: (ctwf <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "serverinfo Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress".
02:30 <smoothice> #help serverinfo
02:30 <armabot> smoothice: (serverinfo <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/serverdetails.php?name=@1+@2+@3+@4+@5+@6+@7+@8+@9".
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02:39 <agent7> #list
02:39 <armabot> agent7: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Format, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Insult, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Nickometer, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
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02:46 <ct|kyle> sorry sinewav :P
02:47 <sinewav> nice script
02:47 <sinewav> `:p
02:47  * sinewav blanes COncord
02:47 <ct|kyle> lol my fault
02:48 <agent7> #armaservers
02:48 <armabot> agent7: This data is 18 seconds old; {Delicious Desserts} Racing II (11/16), Wild West  =Sumo= (11/14), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), Wall-E Land (Loose DF Touching Walls Aloud) (8/8), FRO Clan High Rubber (5/10), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (5/10), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (5/12), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (5/16), |FA| Devils Rings! (4/16), Swampland Mud (2 more messages)
02:49 <ct|kyle> sinewav: i think i fixed it wanna come see :P
02:50 <sinewav> yeah, be right there
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02:53  * BabyBug prods Lucifer in the belly button
02:53 <Lucifer> #fetch http://www.davefancella.com
02:53 <armabot> Lucifer: '<?xml version="1.0"\n?>\n<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">\n<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">\n<head>\n<title>Dave Fancella</title>\n<meta name="generator" content="http://txt2tags.sf.net" />\n<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="style/main.css" />\n<link rel="stylesheet" (5 more messages)
02:53 <Lucifer> *phew*
02:53 <BabyBug> ?
02:53 <Lucifer> my youngest spilled water on my computer
02:54 <BabyBug> LOL
02:54 <Lucifer> luckily the water was mostly deflected, but I had to shut down quickly and make sure everything was dry
02:58 <sinewav> how old is your youngest Lucifer?
02:59 <Lucifer> 5
02:59 <sinewav> so, not quite old enought to know better?
03:01 <Lucifer> no, old enough to know better
03:01 <Lucifer> it was a genuine accident
03:01 <Lucifer> he was very helpful in cleaning it up :)
03:02 <sinewav> very nice. :)
03:02 <Lucifer> what sort of information about a user in a tournament is needed?
03:03 <Lucifer> I've got username, email, real name
03:03 <Lucifer> er, wait a minute, I don't want all that for an auth table
03:03 <luke-jr> you forgot Latin-1 obfuscated game name
03:04 <Lucifer> that should be a separate table, with a many to one relationship to the user table
03:04  * Lucifer isn't sure a Latin-1 obfuscated game name is needed
03:04 <luke-jr> oh
03:05 <luke-jr> I forgot a piece
03:05 <luke-jr> you forgot Latin-1 obfuscated game name with clan tags
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03:05 <ct|kyle> woot Genki is back :)
03:05 <Genki> heh was trying to cut down the lag when playing bubbletrouble lol
03:07 <ct|kyle> #google bubbletrouble
03:07 <armabot> ct|kyle: Search took 0.12 seconds: Bubble Trouble - Games at Miniclip.com - Play Free Games: <http://www.miniclip.com/games/bubble-trouble/en/>; Bubble Trouble - Free Arcade & Classic Game from AddictingGames: <http://www.addictinggames.com/bubbletrouble.html>; Bubble Trouble Game - Flash Games - Arcade Games: <http://www.flasharcade.com/game.cgi?bubbletrouble>; bubble trouble: (2 more messages)
03:08 <Genki> on angel's site
03:08 <Genki> trying to beat flex
03:08 <ct|kyle> lol
03:10 <Genki> bubbletroubesm1
03:10  * BabyBug looks at Genki O.o
03:10 <Genki> or something
03:11 <Genki> liz around >>>
03:11 <Genki> >.>
03:11 <BabyBug> sleeping probably :P
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03:13 <BabyBug> O.o
03:13 <BabyBug> since when is agent7 on irc :s
03:14 <Genki> no clue lol
03:14 <BabyBug> #si nexus
03:14 <armabot> BabyBug: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (0/16):
03:14 <BabyBug> #alias add n9 si nexus9
03:14 <armabot> BabyBug: The operation succeeded.
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03:16 <BabyBug> agent7!
03:16 <agent7> indeed
03:16 <sinewav> agent7 where?
03:16 <sinewav> `oh!
03:16 <sinewav> hi
03:16 <agent7> where what
03:16 <sinewav> didn't see you come in. hello
03:17 <agent7> first time using this
03:17 <madmax> did you convert another one to come on irc BabyBug?
03:17 <BabyBug> don't think so
03:17 <BabyBug> lol
03:17 <BabyBug> i always globally tell people to come on when i nexus though =D
03:17 <BabyBug> in*
03:19 <agent7> client you use?
03:19 <BabyBug> xchat
03:20 <madmax> irssi :-D
03:20 <BabyBug> nerd ^^^^^
03:20 <Genki> pidgin!
03:20 <Genki> xD
03:20 <agent7> can irc on pidgin?
03:20 <Genki> yeah
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03:20 <agent7> cool
03:20 <smoothice> WASSUP!
03:20 <agent7> and wich one is best
03:21 <Genki> no clue
03:21 <agent7> lol
03:21 <BabyBug> irssi is a text client in the terminal...
03:21 <agent7> i got chatzilla cause im noob at this
03:21 <BabyBug> i'd say xchat is the best client with a gui
03:21 <agent7> on firefox
03:22 <BabyBug> heh ^^
03:24 <agent7> always want to know why always is empti in nexus but sudently all apear and i think maybe was for irc
03:24 <luke-jr> BabyBug: XChat sucks
03:24 <sinewav> XChat FTL
03:24 <luke-jr> Konversation is win
03:24 <BabyBug> and here comes the flame war
03:24 <agent7> :0
03:24 <Genki> <3 xchat
03:24 <Genki> :]
03:25 <luke-jr> ♡ Konversation
03:25  * sinewav will totally use Konversation on luke's advice, just as soon as he gets a new OS.
03:25 <BabyBug> agent7, more people from nexus need to come on IRC...so that it's easier to get people on there :P
03:25 <ct|kyle> sinewav: when will that be?
03:26 <sinewav> well, my plan is to start using linux based software so I know  some of the tools.
03:26 <agent7> yes cause i dont want to enter and find it empty most of the time
03:26 <sinewav> this shold make moving to a new os a little less harsh
03:27 <ct|kyle> LOL command prompt in MS not same as terminal in linux :P
03:28 <sinewav> ?
03:28 <ct|kyle> terminal is the only hard part, the rest is simple
03:28 <sinewav> Yeah, I'll probably buy a book when I'm ready to move on.
03:29 <ct|kyle> Firefox is different in Windows than in linux
03:30 <agent7> and sorry for my bad english it is not my first languaje so you are free to correct me whenever you like :)
03:30 <sinewav> #si advanced racing
03:30 <armabot> sinewav: Adventures of TRON >> Advanced Racing <<: Players (2/3): i love cocks!!!, Sam
03:30 <sinewav> hmm...
03:32 <smoothice> #si wild west
03:32 <armabot> smoothice: Wild West  =Sumo=: Players (11/14): -=IsY|Gazelle, -=}ID< ARiløu, -=}ID< CrEaToR, -=}ID< Taco, 3RE_noobSaibot, BabyBug, madmax, Player 1, sine.wav, _~R~_»Tðxìc«
03:33 <smoothice> #si West
03:33 <armabot> smoothice: Wild West  =Sumo=: Players (11/14): -=IsY|Gazelle, -=}ID< ARiløu, -=}ID< CrEaToR, -=}ID< Taco, 3RE_noobSaibot, BabyBug, madmax, Player 1, sine.wav, _~R~_»Tðxìc«
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03:37 <smoothice> Is DoS any more likely when having an arma server running?
03:37 <Lucifer> luke-jr: I don't intend to directly support clans, heh
03:37 <BabyBug> mathematically, yes. realistically, no
03:38 <Lucifer> I've been DoS attacked as a direct result of having an arma server running
03:38 <Lucifer> it was a smeghead player
03:39 <smoothice> so...
03:39 <smoothice> It was a DoS on 4534?
03:39 <smoothice> UDP
03:40 <smoothice> Lucifer: How did you stop it?
03:40 <Lucifer> I'm not sure if I stopped it or if he just gave up
03:40 <Lucifer> I did a firewall ban, this was before arma supported bans directly
03:40 <Lucifer> the attack stopped soon after that, but like I said, I don't know if it was because of the firewall dropping packets or not
03:40 <smoothice> ok
03:41 <Lucifer> I suspect not, I would have had to go up a few layers in the network topology to stop it
03:41 <Lucifer> but afaik, it's the only attack from an arma player to an arma server admin ever
03:41 <smoothice> ok
03:41 <smoothice> so in other words It's pretty safe
03:41 <Lucifer> yes
03:41 <smoothice> ok
03:42 <Lucifer> and that particular player was thoroughly ostracized in the community, but knowledge of the attack isn't general
03:42 <Lucifer> i.e. we didn't go around telling everybody about it ('we' being the people on the server at the time)
03:42 <smoothice> yeah
03:42 <Lucifer> he was just a smeghead already, heh
03:42 <smoothice> What server was it?
03:42 <Lucifer> Breakfast in Hell
03:42 <smoothice> ok
03:43 <Lucifer> player went by the name Focus at the time, don't know if he's still around under a new name or not
03:43 <Lucifer> I think not, he's shown up at least once since he stopped way back then, and couldn't find a place to play, or so I hear, heh
03:43 <Lucifer> this was all almost 4 years ago
03:44 <smoothice> oh
03:44 <smoothice> back in the days of 0.7.0?
03:48 <Lucifer> no
03:48 <Lucifer> was the server version
03:48 <Lucifer> damn, another kid lost a tooth
03:48 <Lucifer> that almost certainly means a trip to hobby lobby tomorrow, because I know what they want to do with the money
03:49 <BabyBug> hobby lobby?
03:49 <smoothice> a craft store
03:49 <smoothice> like Michaels
03:49 <BabyBug> Michaels?
03:49 <Lucifer> there's a necklace thing down there that my daughter wants and it only costs a dollar
03:49 <Lucifer> teeth are worth a dollar these days, apparently
03:50 <BabyBug> lol :P
03:50 <Lucifer> my son got two dollars last night (the middle kid, older son)
03:50 <smoothice> Lucifer: was the DoS IP based or arma-based?
03:50 <smoothice> like
03:50 <Lucifer> smoothice: I don't know how he ran the attack
03:51 <Lucifer> I don't know if he attacked the arma server or just did a bunch of pings
03:51 <smoothice> was it an attack on the port itself or armagetron-related
03:51 <Lucifer> it was arma-related
03:51 <smoothice> oh ok
03:51 <Lucifer> we'd just had another confrontation in my server
03:51 <Lucifer> he was going around using the rip bug to crash servers
03:51 <Lucifer> said he had a right to do so as long as that bug wasn't fixed
03:51 <smoothice> BUG_RIP?
03:51 <Lucifer> I don't even remember whether or not z-man had reappeared at the time or if he was still MIA
03:52 <Lucifer> #cfg BUG_RIP
03:52 <armabot> Lucifer: BUG_RIP: Allows the rim wall to be ripped open by a VERY close grind. (default: 0)
03:52 <Lucifer> yes
03:52 <smoothice> ok
03:52 <smoothice> so
03:52 <smoothice> Running servers should be taken as a fun thing instead of dangerous?
03:52 <Lucifer> back then it crashed teh server, I don't know what it does now
03:52 <Lucifer> yes, fun, that's the point of the server
03:52 <smoothice> ok
03:52 <Lucifer> you will have a few fights here and there with players, but probably nothing like this
03:52 <smoothice> yeah
03:52 <smoothice> I prefer to be nice
03:53 <smoothice> I just a had a mini-fight a couple of minutes ago
03:53 <smoothice> so
03:53 <Lucifer> it was a guy who DoS'd lots of servers by using the rip bug, and when I repeatedly confronted him, he attacked me
03:53 <smoothice> I was worried :/
03:53 <smoothice> #help cfg
03:53 <armabot> smoothice: (cfg <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "armaconfig @1".
03:53 <Lucifer> well, this was a particular pattern of behavior, he had already tried to take down my server by ripping the grid
03:53 <smoothice> #help armaconfig
03:53 <armabot> smoothice: (armaconfig <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "rss http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armaconfig.php?config=$1".
03:53 <smoothice> Lucifer: oh ok
03:53 <Lucifer> these days the servers are a lot stronger, and characters like that don't last very long in the game
03:53 <Lucifer> there's just so little to exploit
03:53 <Lucifer> if anything, heh
03:54 <Lucifer> so they come in, play a bit, piss a few people off with their attitudes, then move on
03:54 <smoothice> Ok
03:54 <smoothice> Wel
03:54 <smoothice> l
03:54 <Lucifer> we used to keep them longer because we had things they could do to hurt the game
03:54 <smoothice> Thanks for the reassurance
03:54 <Lucifer> I wouldn't sweat it, but if I were to setup another server, I'd keep close logs
03:55 <smoothice> yeah
03:55 <Lucifer> what annoyed me the most about that attack was that I didn' thave the log data I needed to report it
03:55 <smoothice> report it to who?
03:55 <Lucifer> FBI
03:55 <smoothice> oh
03:55 <smoothice> ok
03:56 <smoothice> Yeah I had a mini-dos on a server I had a couple of years ago
03:56 <smoothice> on VNC
03:56 <smoothice> and I was about to report it
03:56 <smoothice> but then didn’t
03:56 <Lucifer> well, at the time I had taken something of a leading role in the server community here, I felt like I had a moral obligation to report it
03:56 <Lucifer> this was before I was drafted onto the development team ;)
03:57 <Lucifer> man, this is ancient history, haha
03:57 <smoothice> yeah
03:57 <smoothice> Interesting nevertheless
03:57 <smoothice> for someone relatively new to Armagetron compared to the rest of you
03:57 <smoothice> :/
03:59 <Lucifer> well, there's a captcha, heh
04:00 <Lucifer> http://tourney.davefancella.com
04:01 <Lucifer> nothing works yet, in fact, I'm still figuring out the zend framework
04:01 <Lucifer> I won't promise it'll be useful ever, I'm using it as a way to figure out the zend framework for my new job
04:01 <Lucifer> when the guy calls tomorrow, I hope to be able to say (if he asks) that I've spent a little time with it
04:02 <smoothice> Tournament Manager?
04:02 <smoothice> Is that like Pink's armaserv?
04:03 <Lucifer> yeah, it's more or less the same thing
04:03 <Lucifer> if I get it to where it's functional, I'll put it up in a bzr repository
04:05 <Lucifer> basically, the way it'll probably go down, if two things happen in the next couple of days:
04:05 <Lucifer> IF
04:05 <Lucifer> A) I get my head wrapped around the zend framework
04:05 <Lucifer> B) Zend is all it's cracked up to be
04:05 <Lucifer> THEN
04:06 <Lucifer> I will have a more or less functional tournament manager that can be used almost immediately in a few days
04:06 <Lucifer> but don't get your hopes up, heh
04:06 <BabyBug> you're nicking other people's ideas!
04:06 <BabyBug> (joking)
04:07 <Lucifer> heh, better read old posts on the forums
04:07 <BabyBug> oh shh
04:07 <BabyBug> lol
04:08 <agent7> cu all bye
04:08 <BabyBug> toodles
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04:22 <ik> Lucifer++
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04:22 <Lucifer> wtf?
04:23 <f00li5h> Lucifer: on #perl ivantus just asked someone to come and moan about his ban
04:23 <f00li5h> ik was there, and decided you deserved karma for it
04:23 <Lucifer> oh, haha
04:23 <f00li5h> so what's the pesky critter do anyway?
04:23 <Lucifer> we dont' have a bot that does karma, I don't think
04:23 <Lucifer> are you from #perl?
04:24 <f00li5h> I am from the internet, i'm here to stick labels on your cats
04:24 <Lucifer> he has this irc bot that he takes around with him that seems to have gotten the best of him
04:24 <Lucifer> so whenever the bot gets here, (heh, I love xkcd), he asks one of us to kick it for him
04:24 <Lucifer> because he can't deal with it
04:24 <Lucifer> so I told him to deal with it
04:24 <Lucifer> and he whined about how it was too hard, supybot is too hard, and have I ever run a supybot, and so forth
04:24 <f00li5h> and then banned him and the robot
04:24 <ct|kyle> \luke-jr--
04:24 <Lucifer> so I banned the lot of him
04:25 <f00li5h> sounds fari enough
04:25 <f00li5h> well, he seems displeased (obviously_) but i'm going to switch back and taunt him some...
04:25 <iank> otoh, kittens have come to gentrify your channel
04:25 <iank> =^_^=
04:25 <f00li5h> meow!
04:25 <Lucifer> heh, have fun pestering the little fuck
04:26 <Lucifer> take comfort knowing you're dealing with a young mind, helping to shape him into an adult
04:26 <Lucifer> and that he needs to be responsible for his bots!
04:28 <Lucifer> er wait a minute, I didn't create the table yet, oops
04:31 <BabyBug> So...ivantis gone means less annoyance and exposure in other channels...It's win win \o/
04:35 <f00li5h> not for me, i can't even read the channel name... the font size is too smal
04:35 <f00li5h> so i'm not really published to ;)
04:36 <Lucifer> yay, now people can register for the tourney manager, but can't do anything, heh
04:36  * Lucifer needs to fix it so the password field stores something that's not plaintext
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04:45 <iank> Lucifer: .. he just found it in his crontab
04:45 <Lucifer> haha
04:45 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o Lucifer] by ChanServ
04:45 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o armabot] by ChanServ
04:45 <@Lucifer> ok, I'm removing the ban(s)
04:46 -!- mode/#armagetron [-b *!n=ivantis@63-245-159-78.kitusa.com] by Lucifer
04:46 -!- mode/#armagetron [-b botvantis!*@*] by Lucifer
04:46 <@Lucifer> I think that's it
04:46 <BabyBug> Do you ever just clean up and remove every ban in the channel?
04:46 <@Lucifer> no
04:47 <@Lucifer> #balist
04:47 <@Lucifer> #banlist
04:47 <@Lucifer> #list channel
04:47 <@armabot> Lucifer: alert, ban add, ban list, ban remove, capability add, capability list, capability remove, capability set, capability setdefault, capability unset, cycle, dehalfop, deop, devoice, disable, enable, halfop, ignore add, ignore list, ignore remove, invite, kban, key, kick, limit, lobotomy add, lobotomy list, lobotomy remove, mode, moderate, nicks, op, unban, unmoderate, and voice
04:47 <@Lucifer> #ban list
04:47 <@armabot> Lucifer: There are no persistent bans on #armagetron.
04:47 <@Lucifer> #unban ivantis2
04:47 <@armabot> Lucifer: Error: 'ivantis2' is not a valid nick or hostmask.
04:47 <@Lucifer> oh well, I think I got them
04:47 <iank> 22:47 -!- 13 - #armagetron: ban *bot*!*@*.kitusa.com [by ballard.freenode.net, 5742206 secs ago]
04:48 <iank> But I'd keep that one.
04:48 <@Lucifer> I think I left that one
04:48 <iank> oh, and you banned his ipv6 host at one point
04:48 <@Lucifer> guru3 did that
04:48 <iank> ... and again, but with *bot in the nick -_-
04:48 <iank> This guy's got a lot of bans.
04:48 -!- mode/#armagetron [-b *!*n=ivantis@2002:3ff5:9f4e:1234:20c:f1ff:fea6:*] by Lucifer
04:48 <@Lucifer> he always tries to get around them immediately and beg for mercy
04:49 <@Lucifer> which usually provokes a ban against whatever workaround he used
04:49 <@Lucifer> he needs to act his age, seriously
04:49 <iank> As it should
04:49 <@Lucifer> I already have three kids, I don't need another one, heh
04:50 <luke-jr> Lucifer: what about clans⁇?
04:50 <@Lucifer> luke-jr: what about clans?
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04:51 <ivantis2> guess what!
04:52 <ivantis2> i figured out the ivantis3 issue!
04:52 <BabyBug> He's annoying already
04:53 <ivantis2> he was on crontab
04:54 <luke-jr> [20:37:49] <Lucifer> luke-jr: I don't intend to directly support clans, heh
04:54 <luke-jr> Lucifer: why exactly was ivantis2 just unbanned?
04:54 <ivantis2> but i havent figured out the ghost who is editing my configuration files
04:54 <@Lucifer> because he thinks he figured out why his bot kept coming in
04:54 <luke-jr> and?
04:54 <@Lucifer> so if he can control his bot, he can stay?
04:54 <@Lucifer> I banned him over that
04:54 <@Lucifer> if somebody banned him over something else, I'm unaware of it
04:54 <@Lucifer> and no, I don't intend to directly support clans
04:55 <@Lucifer> but I do intend to have formal teams with rosters
04:55 <@Lucifer> clans can just register as a team
04:55 <@Lucifer> if clans want more than one team, they can do that, and naming the teams is their problem :)
04:55 <ivantis2> i use the bot for other channels, and i cant make the configuration files change correctly
04:55 <luke-jr> wtf are you talking about, though?
04:55 <ivantis2> hold on allow me to try again
04:56 <luke-jr> and, more importantly, how does it involve me?
04:58 <ivantis2> is ivantis3 still banned?
04:58 <ivantis2> i just tried to edit the conf
04:58 <@Lucifer> maybe, maybe not
04:58 <ivantis2> removing #armagetron
04:58 <ivantis2> i think it worked
04:58 <@Lucifer> supybot regularly saves its configuration file
04:58 <ivantis2> oh no wonder
04:58 <@Lucifer> if supybot is running, you have to use regular commands to change its config, otherwise it'll overwrite your changes
04:59 <@Lucifer> THAT'S IN THE FUCKING DOCS!
04:59 <ivantis2> i thought i told you i was allergic to man pages?
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05:01 <ivantis2> hmm i guess my computer isnt haunted
05:04 <@Lucifer> does sqlite have an MD5 function?
05:05 <BabyBug> I'm going to say no, but i could be very wrong
05:06 <@Lucifer> doesn't look like
05:06 <@Lucifer> it
05:07 <smoothice> How do you restrict the number of players allowed on the arma server grid?
05:07 <smoothice> And make everyone else spec
05:08 <@Lucifer> beats me
05:08 <smoothice> ok
05:09 <smoothice> anyone?
05:09 <BabyBug> combination of max_teams and maximum number of people on a team?
05:09 <BabyBug> (guess)
05:10 <@Lucifer> there's a max_players thing, I'm sure
05:10 <BabyBug> #cfg2 max_players
05:10 <@armabot> BabyBug: MAX_PLAYERS_SAME_IP: maximum number of players from the same IP (note that each client can legally host up to four players) || SP_TEAM_MAX_PLAYERS: Maximum number of players per team in single player mode || TEAM_MAX_PLAYERS: Maximum number of players per team
05:10 <BabyBug> not sure enough it seems =P
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05:16 <@Lucifer> maybe BabyBug (hi there!) is right, heh
05:17 <@Lucifer> max_players 1
05:17 <@Lucifer> max_teams 8
05:17 <@Lucifer> sounds awfully familiar
05:17 <BabyBug> team_max_players*
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05:21 <@Lucifer> yeah, whatever
05:21 <@Lucifer> it's been something like 2 years since I've operated a server
05:24 <smoothice> #cfg2 max_teams
05:24 <@armabot> smoothice: Sorry, no matches :S
05:24 <smoothice> Lucifer: no max_teams lol
05:29 <BabyBug> #cfg2 teams_max
05:29 <@armabot> BabyBug: SP_TEAMS_MAX: Maximum number of teams in single player mode || TEAMS_MAX: Maximum number of teams
05:29 <BabyBug> #cfg2 players_max
05:29 <@armabot> BabyBug: Sorry, no matches :S
05:31 <smoothice> BabyBug: TEAMS_MAX... that will work
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06:32 <smoothice> #sd iD Tech Racing
06:32 <@armabot> smoothice: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “id tech racing” at the moment, sorry.
06:32 <smoothice> #sd Tech Racing
06:32 <@armabot> smoothice: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “tech racing” at the moment, sorry.
06:32 <smoothice> #sd internalDrive racing
06:33 <@armabot> smoothice: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “internaldrive racing” at the moment, sorry.
06:33 <smoothice> #sd Night Walker
06:33 <@armabot> smoothice: ~Night Walker's Central~CTF~: Players (0/8):
06:41 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o Lucifer] by Lucifer
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07:15 <smoothice> #cfg2 sinclude
07:15 <@armabot> smoothice: SINCLUDE: Includes the following file silently, without error message if it is not found
07:15 <smoothice> #cfg2 rinclude
07:15 <@armabot> smoothice: RINCLUDE: Includes a file using the resource system. Use the direct link syntax to your profit here.
07:15 <smoothice> #cfg2 clude
07:15 <@armabot> smoothice: ACCESS_LEVEL_VOTE_INCLUDE: Minimal access level required to issue inclue votes. || ACCESS_LEVEL_VOTE_INCLUDE_EXECUTE: Minimal access level successful include votes will be executed at. || INCLUDE: Includes the following file || RINCLUDE: Includes a file using the resource system. Use the direct link syntax to your profit here. || SINCLUDE: Includes the following file silently, without (1 more message)
07:16 <epsy> what are you looking for?
07:16 <epsy> morning
07:20 <smoothice> epsy: it's 11 pm here
07:20 <smoothice> epsy: lol
07:20 <smoothice> I'm just looking at include stuff
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07:21 <epsy> 7:20 here :<
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07:21  * BabyBug hits epsy with a rock!
07:21 <epsy> morgning BabyBug
07:21 <BabyBug> Morning =)
07:21 <epsy> why me?!
07:21 <BabyBug> Because you spoke first
07:22 <epsy> can't hear you
07:22  * BabyBug really needs to learn how to sleep again =x
07:23 <epsy> ah yeah I hated that
07:25 <BabyBug> i blame Lucifer for it
07:25 <Lucifer> yaright
07:25 <epsy> may I ask what he put in your head?
07:26 <Lucifer> it's really my fault you can't sleep at normal nighttime hours
07:26 <epsy> hello luci
07:26 <Lucifer> she's enchanted with my charming internet persona
07:26 <BabyBug> yes it is! you kept me awake with your sex chats!
07:26 <Lucifer> morning epsy
07:26 <epsy> :°
07:26 <epsy> :)
07:26 <epsy> (damn me forgetting to run xmodmap)
07:26 <Lucifer> haha
07:27 <epsy> how's the 'MCS' going?
07:27 <Lucifer> MCS?
07:28 <epsy> @aawikis match coordination
07:28 <teabot> epsy: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Match_coordinator_module - Match coordinator module - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
07:28 <Lucifer> hmmm, you can login and logout
07:28 <Lucifer> that's it so far
07:28 <Lucifer> heh
07:28  * Lucifer doesn't like the zend framework docs
07:29 <epsy> using an aagid? :)
07:29 <Lucifer> no, heh
07:29 <Lucifer> not just no but hell no
07:29 <epsy> >:O
07:29 <Lucifer> that's for later, when I know more about the zend framework
07:29 <Lucifer> if I ever get that far, I'm doing it right now to get my bearings on the toolkit
07:29 <Lucifer> so it is likely it's code I'll abandon soon, before it's functional for it's intended purpose
07:30 <Lucifer> and since it uses a fancy MVC framework, I guarantee nobody in the community will pick it up and run with it
07:30 <epsy> heh
07:30 <epsy> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Earmagetronad-dev/armagetronad/trunk-http-auth-client-work/annotate/head%3A/webform/test.php
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07:31 <Lucifer> hmmmm, what should be on a player's default profile page?
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07:32 <epsy> what matches he played last
07:32 <epsy> erm, but before that
07:32 <Lucifer> ok, when all that exists is a user table, what should be on a player's default profile page?
07:32 <epsy> nickname, last teams he played with
07:32 <BabyBug> fortress position?
07:32 <epsy> and maybe some win/losss statistics, points earned, points given etc
07:32 <Lucifer> there epsy goes again, jumping to the finish, heh
07:33 <epsy> and a little bie all for the user
07:33 <Lucifer> NONE OF THAT EXISTS!  And it'll take many man hours to write it all
07:33 <epsy> bio*
07:33 <Lucifer> ok, lemme ask the question slightly differently
07:33 <epsy> you're asking me what you should find on a player's page!
07:33 <Lucifer> should a player's default profile page be a page that allows them to edit their player information,
07:33 <Lucifer> or a page that acts like the dashboard you've described?
07:33 <BabyBug> Yes
07:33 <BabyBug> the first
07:33 <epsy>  you should have both
07:34 <epsy> otherwise that's pretty frustrating
07:34 <Lucifer> man, I just want to hurry up and get to the part where a player can create a team, and a user can create a tournament and schedule matches
07:35 <Lucifer> all the rest of this stuff comes after that :)
07:35 <BabyBug> What actually is the zend framework? :P
07:35 <epsy> so just have a page where you can see the user's nickname and a page where the user can edit his details
07:35 <Lucifer> oh yeah, and a player who is the captain of the team can sign the team up for a tournament/match
07:35 <epsy> BabyBug, err, PHP?
07:35 <BabyBug> Well yeh...but..what it is..
07:35 <Lucifer> http://framework.zend.com/manual/en/introduction.html
07:36 <epsy> yes, that's what it is to participate for a team
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07:41 <Lucifer> heh, I think I'll start with just a single link to create a team :)
07:43 <Lucifer> it's fairly straightforward to rearrange shit later
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07:49 <smoothice> how do you make --vardir create a console log?
07:49 <smoothice> at the moment it is only creating bans.txt  master.srv  players.txt  scorelog.txt
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07:52 <epsy> bbl
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10:19 <wrtlprnft> #later tell smoothice you don't, you use >>console_log_file or | tee -a console_log_file
10:19 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
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11:03 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8866 /armagetronad/branches/utf8/armagetronad/ (. src/render/rFont.cpp src/tools/tLocale.cpp): Manuel Moos: Fixed line breaking crash in utf8 mode.
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11:35 <@armabot> armacommits: [utf8-armagetronad-work] r814 Gave rTextField::GetTextLength overloads different names and... || [utf8-armagetronad-work] r813 Fixed line breaking crash in utf8 mode....
11:38 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8867 /armagetronad/branches/utf8/armagetronad/ (. src/render/rFont.cpp src/render/rFont.h):
11:38 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
11:38 <@armabot> armagetronad: Gave rTextField::GetTextLength overloads different names and argument
11:38 <@armabot> armagetronad: lists so one can call them selectively.
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12:13 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8868 /armagetronad/branches/utf8/armagetronad/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
12:13 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
12:13 <@armabot> armagetronad: Old user configuration files are now read in latin1 mode,
12:13 <@armabot> armagetronad: and the validity of the utf8 of new files is verified.
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12:17 <Flex> #hello
12:17 <@armabot> Hello Flex :) Quote #42: "The future doesn't belong to the fainthearted; it belongs to the brave. - Ronald Reagen, in his address following the explosion of the space shuttle Challenger" (added by Lucifer_arma at 02:03 PM, January 02, 2007)
12:18 <Flex> hmm, a nice justification of negligence..
12:20  * z-man opens the Bush Countdown Clock
12:34  * fonkay is taking a snowday
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12:38 <@armabot> armacommits: [utf8-armagetronad-work] r815 Old user configuration files are now read in latin1 mode,...
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15:12 <smoothice> Mornin' all!
15:18 <K-Yo> hi smoothice
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16:28  * Lucifer is randomly shivering
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16:28 <CodeHunter> Morning guys
16:28 <PinkTomato> afternoon
16:28 <smoothice> yeah
16:28 <smoothice> morning
16:28 <smoothice> lol
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16:28 <Lucifer> morning
16:28 <z-man> afternoon
16:28 <z-man> Which reminds me, coffee time
16:28 <smoothice> haha
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16:36 <z-man> oh
16:37 <z-man> I keep misremembering Google Protocol Buffers as Google Pattern Buffers.
16:41 <smoothice> ct|kyle: No way to check access level in PHP?
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16:42 <ct|kyle> smoothice: only on /cmd i think
16:51 <ct|kyle> #llog COMMAND
16:51 <smoothice> armabot died
16:51 <smoothice> ^
16:51 <PinkTomato> we can't check the weather now.
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16:51 <smoothice> lol
16:51 <PinkTomato> we will have to use the window!
16:51 <ct|kyle> .llog COMMAND
16:51 <tronner> ct|kyle: ADMIN_COMMAND: [laddername] [ip] [access level] [command] [options] || COMMAND: [laddername] [ip] [access level] [message] || INVALID_COMMAND: [command] [laddername] [ip] [access level] [message]
16:51 <smoothice> Does that get written to ladderlog immediately?
16:51 <ct|kyle> .weather 46814
16:51 <tronner> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Tanbark, Fort Wayne, Indiana is -11.5°C (10:29 AM EST on January 19, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: -13.0°C. Windchill: -15.0°C. Pressure: 29.84 in 1010.4 hPa (Falling).
16:51 <ct|kyle> smoothice: those 3 are for is someone write /fdjkgfdg' (something that does not exist)  or /cmd or /admin
16:51 <PinkTomato> tronnerbot uses a scale that makes sense!
16:51 <smoothice> or NOT!
16:51 <smoothice> lol
16:51 <ct|kyle> .llog online_pl
16:51 <tronner> ct|kyle: ONLINE_PLAYER: [name] [red] [green] [blue] [Ping] [team]
16:51 <smoothice> what does that do
16:51 <ct|kyle> ^^ that is where it should be :)
16:51 <ct|kyle> .llog Player_re
16:51 <tronner> ct|kyle: PLAYER_RENAMED: [oldladdername] [laddername] [ip] [authenticated] [newdisplayname]
16:51 <ct|kyle> .help weather
16:51 <tronner> ct|kyle: (weather <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city.
16:51 <smoothice> .part
16:51 <PinkTomato> .weather Brighton, UK
16:51 <tronner> PinkTomato: The current temperature in Preston Park, Brighton, United Kingdom is 6.1°C (3:47 PM GMT on January 19, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 28.93 in 979.6 hPa (Steady).
16:51 <smoothice> .weather 60640
16:51 <tronner> smoothice: The current temperature in Uptown, Chicago, Illinois is -7.0°C (9:47 AM CST on January 19, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: -16.0°C. Windchill: -13.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa (Rising).
16:51 <PinkTomato> you win, as usual ;)
16:51 <smoothice> :P
16:51 <smoothice> .weather 80910
16:51 <tronner> smoothice: The current temperature in Pikes Peak Park, Colorado Springs, Colorado is 8.2°C (8:48 AM MST on January 19, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 21%. Dew Point: -13.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021.2 hPa (Rising).
16:51 <z-man> What sense does that make? "You can check for things like the machine's endianness when your program initializes itself."
16:51 <z-man> From the autoconf docs.
16:51 <z-man> Is there a single case where a compiler doesn't know the endianness of the system it's compiling for?
16:51  * z-man 's mind boggles
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16:57 <MrBougo> .weather brussels belgium
16:58 <tronner> MrBougo: The current temperature in Brussels, Belgium is 9.0°C (4:50 PM CET on January 19, 2009). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.03 in 983 hPa (Falling).
16:58 <MrBougo> it's hot in belgium!
17:02 <Lucifer> #weather 78729
17:03 <Lucifer> z-man: mac os x universal binaries?
17:03 <Lucifer> .weather 78729
17:03 <tronner> Lucifer: The current temperature in Anderson Mill / Parmer, Austin, Texas is 17.2°C (10:00 AM CST on January 19, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 23%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1019.5 hPa (Rising).
17:03 <z-man> Even there, the compiler knows the endianness in advance.
17:03 <z-man> You just can't detect it in a configure script :)
17:03 <Lucifer> but the endianness could be different at runtime, right?
17:04 <z-man> yes, but still, you can compile the two binaries with two different values set.
17:04 <Lucifer> heh, you're kinda right that the compiler *has* to know the endianness in advance or it wouldn't work at all
17:04  * z-man checks what he does in Ded*
17:04 <z-man> ah, #include <endian.h> :)
17:05 <Lucifer> I've seen code that checks, though
17:05 <Lucifer> because when you have to read/write binary files that are the same everywhere, you need to know and do the right thing
17:05 <Lucifer> but nothing is needed in configure to do that, heh
17:06 <Lucifer> my son is building a solar-powered car
17:06 <z-man> cool
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17:17 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: or a Perl script that happens to write a log with that daa
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18:08 <madmax> z-man, luke-jr, wrtlprnft, Lucifer: just in case you missed it http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18981
18:11 <luke-jr> I don't really care for Fortress…
18:11 <luke-jr> I mostly enjoy TKing people when I play it
18:11 <madmax> pfft.
18:12 <z-man> where's the problem? :)
18:17 <luke-jr> ?
18:23 <z-man> That you enjoy teamkilling.
18:23 <z-man> Nobody said we'd need to win.
18:23 <luke-jr> heh
18:23 <luke-jr> most of the time it pisses people off
18:23 <luke-jr> ☺
18:23 <Flex> omg you bastard luke-jr
18:23 <Flex> i hate you
18:23 <Flex> i'm going to find you and tk you back.. some time..
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18:29 <BabyBug> \o
18:29 <PinkTomato> Hello BabyBug! *waves*
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18:49 <luke-jr> Flex: ROFL
18:49  * luke-jr deploys his new 2009 prices.
18:49  * epsy was squished
18:50 <epsy> #ping
18:50 <epsy> @ping
18:50 <teabot> pong
18:50 <epsy> for one time teabot is faster than armabot, armabot(s not here
18:51 <luke-jr> hey so
18:51 <luke-jr> is my website not clear that "per slot per month" is just "per month" cut up?
18:51 <luke-jr> and not "additional cost"?
18:51 <epsy> lol..
18:51 <epsy> stupid people sometimes..
18:51 <luke-jr> well, how can I make it clear? :/
18:51 <epsy> it's crystal clear to me
18:53 <PinkTomato> maybe if it wasn't emphasised as much, even so, like epsy said, makes sense to me
18:54 <fonkay> ugh
18:54 <akira_arma> agh
18:54 <akira_arma> #tea
18:54 <epsy> doh
18:54 <epsy> doh
18:54 <epsy> doh
18:54 <epsy> doh
18:55 <epsy> @tea
18:55 <PinkTomato> d'oh
18:55  * akira_arma mutilates epsy
18:55  * fonkay is having a very shitty day.
18:55 <epsy> iroumpf
18:55 <PinkTomato> :(
18:55 <teabot> epsy: timed out
18:55 <PinkTomato> why so?
18:55  * akira_arma hugs fonk
18:55  * luke-jr plots adding VPS to his service availability.
18:55  * epsy prefers visor to sarge actually
18:55 <epsy> ha - ha - ha
18:56 <fonkay> So far... I've had to miss a day of work, got into a car accident and got a parking ticket.
18:56 <akira_arma> :o
18:56 <PinkTomato> :(  fonkay.
18:56 <ct|kyle> wow fonkay, you are having a bad day, (i broke a window yesterday)
18:57 <PinkTomato> hope tomorrow will make up for it :)
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18:59 <epsy> I love when guests are "Checking their private messages" in phpbb
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19:01 <ct|kyle> epsy: ya i know :P
19:01 <fonkay> stalkers
19:04 <Flex> wasn't it all VPS luke-jr?
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19:07 <epsy> haha, here's one
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19:08 <epsy> http://epsy.teamkilled.net:8080/~epsy/screenshots/phpbbrocks.png
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19:08 <PinkTomato> O_O
19:08 <PinkTomato> how can a guest check a PM?
19:09 <PinkTomato> is it a hidden user?
19:09 <Genki> <3 MrBougo
19:09 <Genki> aww no!
19:09 <Genki> it doesn't work!
19:10 <MrBougo> hello
19:10 <Genki> T.T
19:10 <PinkTomato> what does  not work Genki :)?
19:10 <Genki> heya
19:10 <MrBougo> I love you too <3
19:10 <Genki> MrBougo: where's your bot?
19:10 <MrBougo> my bot?
19:10 <Genki> jaja
19:10 <MrBougo> ah lol
19:10 <MrBougo> mrboto
19:10 <Genki> jaja!
19:10 <Genki> he <3's me
19:10 <MrBougo> well I was on windows back then
19:10 <Genki> nuuuuuu!
19:10 <Genki> is he dead?
19:10 <MrBougo> didn't keep the config files of my supybot
19:10 <MrBougo> I fear he is
19:10 <Genki> T.T
19:11 <Genki> MrBoto R.I.P. <3
19:11 <Genki> Worm btw
19:11 <Genki> or stempo
19:11 <Genki> or whatever name I went bye
19:11 <Genki> by*
19:12 <Genki> Flex: I got so close to beating you, but I lag T.T
19:12 <Flex> look at the score board again ;)
19:12 <Genki> oh no
19:13 <Genki> !!!
19:13 <Genki> not again!
19:14 <Genki> I'll play later when my download finishes up
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19:49 <luke-jr> Flex: what?
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19:56 <luke-jr> What do you guys think? http://lightfoot-tx.dashjr.org/?page=vps
19:57 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: why should I pay 1 less £1 and get 256MB RAM?
19:58 <PinkTomato> and if they run on the same servers currently the price is very good :D
19:59 <PinkTomato> (as we know the servers are v.good)
19:59 <Flex> no europe luke-jr?
20:00 <luke-jr> Flex: not for VPS
20:00 <Flex> http://lightfoot-tx.dashjr.org/?page=armagetron
20:00 <Flex> pound sterling
20:00 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: uh. what?
20:00 <Flex> prices are mixed up
20:00 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: I don't have 256 MB RAM plan right now
20:00 <luke-jr> Flex: ⁇?
20:00 <Flex> cheaper for a 32 slot than a 4 slot..
20:01 <Flex> oh nm
20:01 <Flex> that's per slot :p
20:01 <luke-jr> :þ
20:01 <Flex> put that on the middle, that's a good suggestion
20:01 <luke-jr> I made it so each tier of Arma hosting is ~10% discount
20:01 <luke-jr> on the middle?
20:01 <Flex> put the per month at the end
20:01 <PinkTomato> 16GB HD/256MB Transfer is £10, 32/512MB Transfer is £11, but I got confused and thought it was RAM.
20:02 <luke-jr> oh , I see
20:02 <luke-jr> i c
20:03 <PinkTomato> i was wondering why anyone would go for the 256MB package, but as its transfer and HD, some people might as well save £1
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20:04 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: some currencies, the price diff is a little bigger
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20:07 <luke-jr> Flex: http://lightfoot-tx.dashjr.org/?page=armagetron
20:07 <Flex> yup
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20:10 <luke-jr> so back to VPSes
20:10 <luke-jr> how much should I charge for my control panel, and managed hostign?
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20:10 <Flex> oops
20:10 <luke-jr> …
20:11 <Flex> i was holding shift..
20:11 <Lizmatic> dummy
20:11 <luke-jr> [13:10:12] <luke-jr> so back to VPSes
20:11 <luke-jr> [13:10:20] <luke-jr> how much should I charge for my control panel, and managed hostign?
20:11 <Flex> free of charge?! :p
20:11 <luke-jr> uh
20:11 <luke-jr> no :þ
20:11 <epsy> lol
20:11 <luke-jr> then I go broke
20:12 <luke-jr> and don't pay server bills
20:12 <luke-jr> etc
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20:16 <PinkTomato> same as you charge for your current control panels?
20:16 <Flex> how much does it cost you?
20:18 <PinkTomato> #g 10 GBP in USD
20:18 <PinkTomato> wow, the £ really is bad atm
20:19 <Flex> omg..
20:20 <Flex> pound is under the euro... fook
20:20 <PinkTomato> #g 1GBP in EUR
20:20 <PinkTomato> oh armabot isn't here LOL
20:20 <PinkTomato> .g 1GBP in EUR
20:20 <tronner> PinkTomato: http://www.xe.com/ - XE - The World&#39;s Favorite Currency and Foreign Exchange Site
20:21 <PinkTomato> -.-
20:21 <Flex> ohh wait
20:21 <MaZuffeR> .g 1 gbp in eur
20:21 <Flex> that was usd
20:21 <tronner> MaZuffeR: http://www.xe.com/ - XE - The World&#39;s Favorite Currency and Foreign Exchange Site
20:21 <Flex> phew
20:21 <MaZuffeR> damn
20:21 <Flex> 1.00 GBP	=1.10242 EUR
20:21 <PinkTomato> ah, it's picked up a little bit
20:21 <Flex> pound is still safe, by 10% :p
20:22 <Flex> the days of double euro are long gone..
20:22 <PinkTomato> yeah :(, I dislike currency markets,
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20:24 <Flex> uk is too cool for the euro
20:24 <Flex> tbh
20:24 <Lizmatic> also too cool for dental care
20:24 <PinkTomato> The euro is a nice idea in principle.
20:24 <Flex> lol
20:24 <PinkTomato> Just its one of those things that just won't work in the UK in practice
20:25 <PinkTomato> Lizmatic: I agree.
20:25 <PinkTomato> :D
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20:25 <madmax> why so?
20:25 <Flex> tuga is here!
20:25 <PinkTomato> madmax: because UK people are too proud of the £
20:25 <Flex> it's not exactly that.. PinkTomato
20:26 <PinkTomato> Well the £ was doing brilliantly 6 months ago
20:26 <Flex> i believe it's also an economical factor.. we'll switch once the pound doesn't benefit us..
20:27 <Flex> relating to high taxes too..
20:27 <PinkTomato> Flex: I see your point, it would harm us greatly if we switched now. It is only when things are going wrong is when you want to switch
20:27 <PinkTomato> and that is the wrong time to do so,
20:27 <Flex> yeah
20:28 <Flex> those nationalists don't have shit of an opinion
20:28 <PinkTomato> Flex: ?
20:28 <Flex> nothing :p
20:28 <PinkTomato> ok :)
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20:29 <luke-jr> …
20:30 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: ?
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20:32 <PinkTomato> oh you charged the same for arma control panel as the other control panels :)
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20:34 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: they all have different prices..
20:34 <PinkTomato> arma, directadmin are the same
20:34 <luke-jr> I picked the middle one cuz my Arma control panel doesn't have an admin side ☺
20:34 <animuson> tomato doesnt know what this error means: http://pastebin.com/m772ba84f
20:35 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: :), also what has happened to liberty dollar prices :O, they used to be 1:1 with $USD
20:35  * PinkTomato does not know what a liberty dollar is either :)
20:36 <PinkTomato> animuson: It's just an odd error... you should have bash installed surely
20:36 <animuson> its that ^M thing again
20:36 <animuson> like it did with the php class before
20:36 <PinkTomato> ah
20:36 <PinkTomato> well remove the ^M
20:36 <PinkTomato> :)
20:37 <animuson> there is no ^M in the file
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20:37 <PinkTomato> well there must be
20:37 <PinkTomato> use nano
20:37 <animuson> well there isnt
20:37 <animuson> :P
20:37 <PinkTomato> what program did you use?
20:38 <animuson> wordpad
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20:38 <PinkTomato> there's your problem, Windows screws up the line endings and beginnings of files.
20:38 <PinkTomato> (well that's up to interpretation)
20:39 <PinkTomato> does the ^M appear in nano?
20:39 <animuson> :P
20:41 <PinkTomato> well :)?
20:42 <animuson> well the server starts
20:43 <animuson> still doesnt change the map though :P
20:44 <animuson> how do u exit a screen session without stopping it?
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20:44 <PinkTomato> C-a D
20:44 <epsy> ^a d
20:44 <dlh> Where is armabot?
20:44 <epsy> timeout'd
20:45 <dlh> She is missing my aabeta release :|
20:45 <dlh> and I don't have permission to update the releases list on aabeta
20:46 <PinkTomato> animuson: screen -r cycle_racing
20:46 <PinkTomato> respond with error
20:47 <epsy> bbl
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20:48 <wrtlprnft> #ping
20:49 <wrtlprnft> err
20:49 <animuson> -> /etc/arma/scripts/start_cycle.sh: line 7: inotail: command not found
20:49 <wrtlprnft> err, she ran out of RAM
20:49 <wrtlprnft> she eats a lot of that and gets quite fine over time
20:50 <wrtlprnft> dlh: i manually triggered an update
20:50 <dlh> thanks
20:50 <wrtlprnft> yw
20:50 <wrtlprnft> s/fine/fat
20:50 <wrtlprnft> wtf's up with my typing
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20:50 <wrtlprnft> #ping
20:51 <animuson> tomato you still here?
20:51 <PinkTomato> animuson: I told you you need to apt-get install inotail
20:51 <armabot> pong
20:51 <animuson> dont remember that :P
20:52 <PinkTomato> well
20:52 <PinkTomato> i might have told smoothice...
20:53 <PinkTomato> anyways do that and report back with the next error :)
20:53 <animuson> all it says is WAIT_FOR_EXTERNAL_SCRIPT 1
20:53 <animuson> :-/
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20:53 <PinkTomato> do you have a racing.cycle.php?
20:54 <animuson> yea
20:54 <PinkTomato> put in that a new if
20:54 <animuson> o.O
20:54 <PinkTomato> strstr "CHAT" or something, and within that put echo "CONSOLE_MESSAGE Hurrah!\n";
20:55 <PinkTomato> you've done PHP right ?
20:55 <PinkTomato> also mine requires sty+ct branch
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20:56 <PinkTomato> #llog chat
20:56 <armabot> PinkTomato: CHAT: [player] [message]
20:56 <PinkTomato> #llog round_commenc
20:56 <armabot> PinkTomato: Sorry, no matches :S
20:56 <PinkTomato> #llog round_
20:56 <armabot> PinkTomato: ROUND_WINNER: [team]
20:57 <PinkTomato> #more
20:57 <armabot> PinkTomato: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more.  To do so, call this command with that person's nick.
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21:05 <smoothice> animuson: Hi
21:05 <animuson> hey smoothice :)
21:07 <smoothice> #help llog
21:07 <armabot> smoothice: (llog <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "rss http://crazy-tronners.com/ladderlogconfig.php?config=$1".
21:07 <PinkTomato> smoothice trying to do the same as animuson?
21:09 <smoothice> PinkTomato: what is animuson trying to do?
21:09 <akira_arma> @tea
21:09 <teabot> akira_arma: "<br />\n<b>Warning</b>:  mysql_connect() [<a href='function.mysql-connect'>function.mysql-connect</a>]: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (111) in <b>/www2/serverlist/connect.php</b> on line <b>2</b><br />\n<br />\n<b>Warning</b>:  mysql_select_db() [<a href='function.mysql-select-db'>function.mysql-select-db</a>]: Can't connect to local MySQL server (2 more messages)
21:09 <akira_arma> :O
21:09 <PinkTomato> smoothice: round rotation
21:09 <ct|kyle> .tea
21:09 <tronner> ct|kyle: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
21:10 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: Liberty Dollars wasn't supposed to ever be 1:1 with USD
21:10 <smoothice> PinkTomato: config rotate?
21:10 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: Liberty Dollars are not worth face value in USD
21:10 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: oh :)
21:10 <PinkTomato> smoothice: map rotation yeap :)
21:10 <ct|kyle> that is easy
21:10 <smoothice> PinkTomato: That's relative easy with a switch statement in php
21:10 <smoothice> and rand()
21:10 <smoothice> relatively
21:11 <ct|kyle> let me see what part of the code i can fork up to ct's wiki
21:11 <PinkTomato> animuson:
21:11 <luke-jr> What do you guys think? http://lightfoot-tx.dashjr.org/?page=vps
21:11 <PinkTomato> has the ct wiki code,
21:11 <smoothice> Does ADMIN_PASS still function with --enable-armathenication?
21:11 <PinkTomato> just needs the LADDERLOG_ROUND_COMMENCING correct spelling
21:11 <smoothice> luke-jr: What OS do they run
21:12 <z-man> smoothice: no.
21:12 <smoothice> z-man: Any way around that? I'd like to use armathenication to control access levels but also want a standardized password
21:13 <z-man> umm, a standardized password for different access levels?
21:13 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: I liked the ones you gave me earlyer
21:13 <z-man> Or an equivalent of
21:13 <z-man> ADMIN_PASS blarg
21:13 <smoothice> ermm
21:13 <z-man> MODERATOR_PASS blurg
21:13 <z-man> ?
21:14 <smoothice> well
21:14 <smoothice> Our clan uses ADMIN_PASS across all our servers.. however that doesn't work with sty+ct
21:14 <ct|kyle> PASS_LEVEL 0 bling  PASS_LEVEL 1 Blang
21:15 <ct|kyle> :P
21:15 <smoothice> :O
21:15 <smoothice> that exists?
21:15 <ct|kyle> smoothice: no
21:15 <PinkTomato> LOL
21:15 <smoothice> *sigh*
21:15 <smoothice> :/
21:15 <e_n_d_e_r> hah
21:15 <z-man> you can use
21:15 <ct|kyle> smoothice: but that is basically what z-man was saying
21:15 <z-man> LOCAL_USER admin <admin password>
21:15 <z-man> LOCAL_USER moderator <moderator password>
21:16 <z-man> and then give them the access levels.
21:16 <ct|kyle> Userlevele admin@ 1
21:16 <smoothice> ct|kyle, z-man: I'm writing a PHP script that needs to check the access level or a user, but our clan is used to using ADMIN_PASS.
21:16 <ct|kyle> USER_LEVEL*
21:16 <smoothice> of a *
21:16 <z-man> Then don't use armathentication.
21:16 <ct|kyle> .llog admin
21:16 <tronner> ct|kyle: ADMIN_COMMAND: [laddername] [ip] [access level] [command] [options]
21:17 <smoothice> but the access level only works when armathenication is enabled, right?
21:17 <smoothice> in the ADMIN_COMMAND ladderlog write
21:17 <ct|kyle> not 100% sure, i know it will show 20 if dissables on a normal user
21:17 <PinkTomato> I think there is a ladderlog_write when a user logs in
21:18 <ct|kyle> .cfg2 write_ad
21:18 <tronner> ct|kyle: LADDERLOG_WRITE_ADMIN_COMMAND: ladderlog_write_admin_command_help || LADDERLOG_WRITE_ADMIN_LOGIN: ladderlog_write_admin_login_help || LADDERLOG_WRITE_ADMIN_LOGOUT: ladderlog_write_admin_logout_help
21:18 <ct|kyle> smoothice: that is what you want
21:18 <smoothice> ok
21:18 <smoothice> so I want it to write admin_command
21:18 <smoothice> and
21:18 <smoothice> If I'm _not_ using armathenication
21:18 <smoothice> then
21:18 <smoothice> It will write
21:19 <smoothice> ADMIN_COMMAND smoothice~nw 1 say hi
21:19 <ct|kyle> wait
21:19 <ct|kyle> ACCESS_LEVEL is the 1
21:19 <smoothice> yes
21:19 <luke-jr> smoothice: Debian etc
21:20 <smoothice> In other words I'm asking if armathenication isn't enabled then are Administrations still perceived as access level of 1
21:20 <smoothice> tors*
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21:20 <ct|kyle> smoothice: looks that way
21:21 <smoothice> ct|kyle: Alright, good
21:21 <smoothice> When will armathenication because standard in 0.2.8
21:21 <smoothice> become*
21:21 <PinkTomato> I think it already is ?
21:21 <smoothice> Is it?
21:22 <z-man> no.
21:22 <smoothice> figured
21:22 <z-man> It's standard on trunk, I think
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21:22 <z-man> and therefore will be standard in 0.3.1.
21:22 <luke-jr> smoothice: never
21:22 <nsh22> hey
21:22 <smoothice> never :O ?
21:22 <z-man> never in 0.2.8 :)
21:22 <luke-jr> smoothice: 0.2.8 is stable/compatible
21:22 <luke-jr> auth is inherently new/incompatible
21:22 <ct|kyle> wait won't it become standard on
21:22 <z-man> no.
21:23 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: it will be a configure option, disabled by default
21:23 <ct|kyle> ok
21:23 <ct|kyle> z-man: are you going to play in the ladle :)
21:24 <z-man> I can't admin and play at the same time.
21:24 <z-man> Tried it.
21:24 <ct|kyle> servers are self admining now :)
21:24 <smoothice> luke-jr: I guess that makes sense then
21:24 <z-man> Still, as the person responsible, you still have to check for stuff happening.
21:24 <z-man> like noisy spectators.
21:24 <ct|kyle> as long as you make the team leaders an admin :P
21:24 <smoothice> nsh22: CTFS server up
21:25 <nsh22> smoothice wewt
21:26 <luke-jr> z-man: did the ladderlog compatibility issue ever get fixed, btw?
21:27 <z-man> You know my stance: it never was a problem.
21:27 -!- arrow [n=euclid@adsl-d33.84-47-4.t-com.sk] has quit ["Leaving."]
21:27 <z-man> (if you mean the username format change)
21:27 <luke-jr> breaking compatibility of a stable release is not a problem?
21:28 <z-man> It isn't breaking compatibility. There never was a promise usernames would stay stable.
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21:28 <luke-jr> sigh
21:29 <luke-jr> it's not compatible, so by definition it's breaking compatibility
21:31 <Lucifer> fonkay: did you think that brakes were for sissies?  You know, you should use your brakes in your real car....
21:31 <Lucifer> luke-jr: I haven't been putting the pre-alphas on aabeta, sorry
21:31 <Lucifer> main reason is that the two builds I made were both made before you made the account ;)
21:31 <luke-jr> Lucifer: can always upload post-hoc
21:32 <Lucifer> the first alpha I released got destroyed by accident ;)
21:32 <Lucifer> I may put the second up, we'll see
21:32 <Lucifer> a little busy right now, getting caught up with communication so I can put a movie on for the kids
21:32 -!- smoothice is now known as smoothice_away
21:34 <nsh22> luke-jr : will lucifers map rotator work on your servers?
21:34 <ct|kyle> #ping
21:34 <armabot> pong
21:34 <ct|kyle> .part
21:34 -!- tronner [i=p4@unaffiliated/tronner] has left #armagetron ["ct|kyle"]
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21:36 <PinkTomato> nsh22: see http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Map/Config_Rotation
21:39 <luke-jr> nsh22: no idea, never seen it
21:40 <luke-jr> nsh22: I have a simple one, it rotates maps (or configs) and messages (said by Admin each round IIRC)
21:40 <luke-jr> ROUND_CONSOLE_MESSAGE actually
21:40 <luke-jr> 31 lines :þ
21:41 <luke-jr> you just upload messages.txt and rmaps.txt/rconfig.txt
21:41 <luke-jr> nsh22: want it?
21:41 <wrtlprnft> z-man: sorry, i forgot they were still linked to my server
21:41 <wrtlprnft> z-man: the binary resources i mean
21:42 <luke-jr> O.o
21:42 <wrtlprnft> now i have a log entry for everyone who tried it out… neat
21:42 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: what do you think of my VPS hosting?
21:42 <wrtlprnft> what vps hosting?
21:43 <z-man> wrtlprnft: np :) I wanted to do that anyway.
21:43 <z-man> We don't want distributed versions to download stuff on the first go, do we?
21:43 <wrtlprnft> in theory you could have svn cp'd floor-1.aatex.png, though
21:44 <wrtlprnft> no, of course not
21:44 <wrtlprnft> the clock thing is more like a proof of concept, anyways
21:50 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: http://lightfoot-tx.dashjr.org/?page=vps
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21:53 <Lizmatic> http://www.costofsex.com/
21:54 <wrtlprnft> meh, VPSs always have way too much disk space
21:54 <luke-jr> XD
21:54 <wrtlprnft> you can barely use them to download the occasional torrent
21:54 <wrtlprnft> err
21:54 <wrtlprnft> little
21:54 <wrtlprnft> grml
21:56 <z-man> They also have a ridiculously low amount of maximum processes.
21:56 <z-man> Something around <base system usage> * 2.
21:57 <wrtlprnft> yeah, i noticed that you can't do make -j2 on ct's server
21:57 <PinkTomato> what does -j2 do?
21:57 <wrtlprnft> multiprocessing
21:57 <wrtlprnft> starts two gcc or whatever instances at the same time whenever possible
21:58 <PinkTomato> Oh I see
21:58 -!- e_n_d_e_r [i=james@h42.37.255.206.cable.lngv.cablelynx.com] has joined #armagetron
21:58 <wrtlprnft> make -j9 is fun :-)
21:58 <PinkTomato> lol :D
21:58 <wrtlprnft> if you have 4 cores+ht
21:58 <wrtlprnft> watch the openoffice build fly by… sort of
21:59 <wrtlprnft> still takes forever, but it's a lot faster
21:59 <PinkTomato> what is a typical process limit of a VPS then?
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22:01 <wrtlprnft> epsy can't spell #ArMaGeTroN
22:03 <epsy> :5
22:03 <epsy> gaaaaah
22:03 <epsy> lazy me forgets to run xmodmap
22:03 <epsy> wrtlprnft, I waste my time on booting windows to play quake live :-|
22:03 <wrtlprnft> your sanity, too
22:04 <epsy> [voice=quek guy]Prepare your team![/voice]
22:04 <epsy> now that typo ruins it
22:05 <epsy> if anyone wants to waste time along with me on quake live, I still have 8 invites
22:06 <epsy> anyway, I hope you solved your problem with arma :-)
22:07 <wrtlprnft> eh?
22:07 <epsy> you mentionned you couldn't play arma atm! :)
22:10 <wrtlprnft> the problem is that it's a freak bug that only happens when a lot of people are looking
22:11 <epsy> oooh dammnn
22:11 <wrtlprnft> believe me, if noone watches me i'm the best arma player in the world
22:11 <wrtlprnft> and the worst one. at the same time
22:11 <epsy> we'll set you on invisiable then
22:11 <wrtlprnft> man those quantum physics jokes are getting old
22:12 <wrtlprnft> by the way, are you officially a developer now or still just a random guy who happens to have commit access?
22:12 <epsy> well, I'm in AUTHORS
22:13 <wrtlprnft> so yes :-)
22:14 <smoothice_away> anyone know how to find the area of an equilateral triangle :P ?
22:15 <epsy> same as any other triangle
22:15 <wrtlprnft> use the monte carlo method
22:15 <PinkTomato> don't you do it as a square and then half it?
22:15 <smoothice_away> I only the length of one site
22:15 <ct|kyle> #google monte carlo method
22:15 <smoothice_away> side
22:15 <armabot> ct|kyle: Search took 0.22 seconds: Monte Carlo method - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monte_Carlo_method>; Monte Carlo methods in finance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monte_Carlo_methods_in_finance>; An Introduction to Monte Carlo Methods: <http://www.chem.unl.edu/zeng/joy/mclab/mcintro.html>; Monte Carlo Method: (2 more messages)
22:15 <ct|kyle> :P
22:15 <smoothice_away> I'm ok thanks...
22:15 <smoothice_away> lol
22:15 <PinkTomato> smoothice_away: its an EQUAL triangle
22:15 -!- smoothice_away is now known as smoothice
22:15 <epsy> smoothice_away, easy
22:15 <smoothice> ?
22:15 <epsy> cut one side in two
22:15 <PinkTomato> so you now the length of all 3 sides :)
22:16 <wrtlprnft> make a bounding rectangle and just check random points in there if they're in the triangle
22:16 <epsy> you have a long side and half another side
22:16 <wrtlprnft> do that a couple of million times and then find out what percentage of them was inside
22:16 <epsy> use pythagore to calculate it's height
22:16 <epsy> then you can guess the rest
22:16 <wrtlprnft> then use that and the area of the rectangle to get the triangle's approximate area
22:16 <smoothice> mehj
22:16 <PinkTomato> epsy: (21:14:42) smoothice_away: anyone know how to find the area of an equilateral triangle :P ?
22:16 <epsy> and there's no h in pytagore, damn python
22:17 <smoothice> maybe I'll skip this problem...
22:17 <PinkTomato> aren't all the lengths the same then? (has not done maths for 3 years)
22:17 <epsy> smoothice, second
22:17 <PinkTomato> smoothice: but it is easy?
22:17 <ct|kyle> smoothice: if it is an equilateral triangle all 3 sides are the same
22:18 <smoothice> yeah
22:18 <PinkTomato> excactly.
22:18 <smoothice> I know that lol
22:18 <epsy> (root(side²-(side/2)²)) * side / 2
22:18 <smoothice> :O
22:18 <ct|kyle> then use 1/2b*h
22:19 <smoothice> how about this
22:19 <smoothice> http://www.mathwords.com/a/a_assets/area%20equilateral%20triangle%20formula.gif
22:19 <epsy> he doesn't know the height
22:19 <wrtlprnft> blah
22:19  * madmax thinks wrtlprnft's way is the easiest
22:19 <epsy> so he must calculate it
22:19 <smoothice> epsy: that's exactly the problem
22:19 <ct|kyle> h = sqrt(b - .5b^2)
22:19 <epsy> use a² = b² + c²
22:19 <epsy> root(side²-(side/2)²)
22:19 <ct|kyle> b is base
22:20 <epsy> this is the triangle's height
22:20 <ct|kyle> so side length
22:20 <wrtlprnft> use a³ = b³ + c³ for natural a, b, c
22:20 <epsy> dont forget to use sin() too
22:20 <MrBougo> eh?
22:20 <smoothice> I'm fine with skipping this problem
22:20 <wrtlprnft> and then use confess()
22:20 <smoothice> lol
22:20 <MrBougo> nice one :p
22:20 <epsy> smoothice, I told you how to solve it
22:20 <epsy> and you wont listen
22:21 <epsy> up to you
22:21 <smoothice> epsy: ':(
22:21 <smoothice> epsy: Don't lose faith in me!
22:21 <wrtlprnft> probably your answer got lost in my static of dumb comments
22:21 <epsy> you first want to compute the height
22:21 <epsy> of the triangle
22:21 <epsy> for that you got to use h² = b² + c²
22:22 <smoothice> ok
22:22 <wrtlprnft> just get the darn formula off wikipedia
22:22  * wrtlprnft stfu
22:22 <smoothice> ???
22:22 <epsy> h is one full side of the triangle, b is half a side of the triangle, and c is the height of the triangle
22:22 <smoothice> ok
22:22 <epsy> ignore him
22:22 <epsy> so
22:23 <epsy> c = squareroot( h² - b² )
22:23 <smoothice> ok
22:23 <epsy> meaning
22:23 <epsy> c = squareroot( h² - (h/2)² )
22:23 <epsy> since b is half of a side
22:23 <epsy> so now you got c the height of the triangle
22:23 <smoothice> ok
22:23 <nsh22> #r
22:23 <epsy> if now you can't do it on your own, you're lost :)
22:24 <armabot> nsh22: *click*
22:24 <smoothice> epsy: I got it
22:24 <nsh22> #help
22:24 <armabot> nsh22: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
22:24 <ct|kyle> #r
22:24 <armabot> ct|kyle: *click*
22:24 <smoothice> #r
22:24 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
22:24  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
22:24 <MrBougo> b² * sqrt(3) no N
22:24 <smoothice> #r
22:24 <MrBougo> ?*
22:24  * ct|kyle liked it better when armabot was op
22:24 <armabot> smoothice: *click*
22:24 <smoothice> lol
22:25 <smoothice> nsh22: ???
22:25 <epsy> MrBougo, <insert random comment on nex's sloppyness>
22:25 <wrtlprnft> of course you could also compute the cross product of the triangle's vec(AB) and vec(AC) vectors (with z := 0), and take half of that vector's length
22:25 <smoothice> If I compile 0.2.8 again and then install to the same place I installed before will it replace the existing installation?
22:25 <epsy> smoothice, that's still part of your homework?
22:25 <smoothice> epsy: yes
22:26 <smoothice> epsy: :P
22:26 <smoothice> epsy: well, no
22:26 <MrBougo> epsy, why use the pythagorean theorem when you can use a tangent
22:26 <epsy> normally it should
22:26 <epsy> now it never does
22:26 <smoothice> I should have never started this convo in the first place...
22:26 <epsy> MrBougo, because belgians suck
22:26 <MrBougo> epsy, lol.
22:26 <MrBougo> #r
22:26 <armabot> MrBougo: *click*
22:27 <MrBougo> armabot is sloppier than nexuiz
22:27 <epsy> well, I've always preferred it to trigonometrics
22:27 <PinkTomato> #r
22:27 <armabot> PinkTomato: *click*
22:27 <MrBougo> mh
22:27 <MrBougo> though trig makes the task easier sometimess
22:27 <epsy> naw
22:27 <epsy> different function names
22:28 <MrBougo> though I understand, I prefer getting uncalculated sqrts in the answer rather than sines or whatever
22:28 <epsy> while pythagore is easy to handle in plain math
22:28 <MrBougo> yeah well
22:28 <epsy> only 24 teams?
22:29 <MrBougo> here you're using a remarkable tangent so it's doesn't hurt :p
22:29 <epsy> only 19 confirmed :<
22:29 <PinkTomato> #g 32 - 19
22:29 <armabot> PinkTomato: 32 - 19 = 13
22:30 <PinkTomato> so we need 26 players
22:30 <MrBougo> my internets are dying somehow
22:30 <smoothice> #g sqrt(9)
22:30 <armabot> smoothice: sqrt(9) = 3
22:30 <smoothice> heehee
22:30 <epsy> @g i*i
22:30 <epsy> #g i*i
22:30 <armabot> epsy: i * i = -1
22:30 <teabot> epsy: http://www.i-to-i.com/ - Volunteer abroad, TEFL Courses and more from i-to-i
22:31 <smoothice> If I compile 0.2.8 again and then install to the same place I installed before will it replace the existing installation?
22:31 <epsy> [23:26] <epsy>: normally it should
22:31 <PinkTomato> how does i * 8i = -1?
22:31 <MrBougo> #g j*k
22:31 <armabot> MrBougo: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:31 <MrBougo> pfrt
22:31 <epsy> though it always locks on "waiting for servers to shut down"
22:31 <wrtlprnft> #g e ^ (i * pi)
22:31 <ct|kyle> #g i * 8i
22:31 <armabot> wrtlprnft: e^(i * pi) = -1
22:32 <MrBougo> PinkTomato, i * 8i = -8
22:32 <armabot> ct|kyle: i * 8 * i = -8
22:32 <wrtlprnft> #g e ^ (i * 3.14)
22:32 <epsy> PinkTomato, heck, x² can't produce -1
22:32 <armabot> wrtlprnft: e^(i * 3.14) = -0.999998732 + 0.00159265292 i
22:32 <MrBougo> hehe
22:32 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: beacause it does not
22:32 <MrBougo> #g i ^ i
22:32 <armabot> MrBougo: i^i = 0.207879576
22:32 <PinkTomato> it does not ?
22:32 <epsy> lol!
22:32 <PinkTomato> what is i?
22:32 <PinkTomato> you have not defined i
22:32 <wrtlprnft> i is me, wrtlprnft
22:32 <PinkTomato> how does google know what i is?
22:32 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: i * 8 * i = -8
22:32 <MrBougo> wait
22:33 <epsy> #g ( i ^ i )^-i
22:33 <wrtlprnft> #g sqrt(1)
22:33 <PinkTomato> so i = -1?
22:33 <armabot> epsy: (i^i)^(-i) = i
22:33 <armabot> wrtlprnft: sqrt(1) = 1
22:33 <epsy> darmed
22:33 <wrtlprnft> #g sqrt(-1)
22:33 <MrBougo> can someone give me the algebraic expression of i^i ?
22:33 <armabot> wrtlprnft: sqrt(-1) = i
22:33 <ct|kyle> no i*i = -1
22:33 <PinkTomato> you can't sqrt minus numbers?
22:33 <wrtlprnft> MrBougo: i^i is crazy :-)
22:33 <wrtlprnft> yes you can!
22:33 <wrtlprnft> iiiiiii can, anyways
22:33 <MrBougo> I don't think I've seen that number before
22:33 <MrBougo> and it's real
22:33 <epsy> #g ii
22:33 <armabot> epsy: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:33 <ct|kyle> nope
22:33 <MrBougo> it's not a square
22:34 <epsy> #g i*i*i
22:34 <armabot> epsy: i * i * i =  - i
22:34 <epsy> #g i*i*i*i
22:34 <epsy> #g i*i*i*i*i
22:34 <armabot> epsy: i * i * i * i = 1
22:34 <armabot> epsy: i * i * i * i * i = i
22:34 <wrtlprnft> #g sqrt(i)
22:34 <armabot> wrtlprnft: sqrt(i) = 0.707106781 + 0.707106781 i
22:34 <epsy> #g 0.707106781 * 0.707106781
22:34 <armabot> epsy: 0.707106781 * 0.707106781 = 0.5
22:34 <wrtlprnft> #g sin(i)
22:34 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:34 <wrtlprnft> aww!
22:34 <ct|kyle> #g log(i)^log(i)
22:34 <armabot> ct|kyle: log(i)^log(i) = 0.330877496 - 0.0883404353 i
22:35 <MrBougo> i^i = e^(-pi/2)
22:35 <MrBougo> #g i^i - e^(-pi/2)
22:35 <armabot> MrBougo: (i^i) - (e^((-pi) / 2)) = 0
22:35 <epsy> holy crap lol
22:35 <wrtlprnft> #g i^i
22:35 <wrtlprnft> that one's interesting
22:35 <armabot> wrtlprnft: i^i = 0.207879576
22:35 <MrBougo> right
22:35 <MrBougo> makes sense
22:35 <PinkTomato> now this is confusing.
22:35 <MrBougo> i^i = e^(i* ln i)
22:35 <MrBougo> right
22:35 <MrBougo> and ln i = pi/2
22:36 <MrBougo> magic!
22:36 <PinkTomato> to make a negative you times a positive and a negative.
22:36 <MrBougo> PinkTomato, not in C :p
22:36 <PinkTomato> but i can be both.
22:36 <MrBougo> (er not the programming language
22:36 <MrBougo> (but the complex numbers)
22:36 <PinkTomato> C?
22:36 <MrBougo> blackboard-C :p
22:37 <wrtlprnft> ah, right, ln i has to be π/2 because sin(1) = 1
22:37 <MrBougo> ℂ
22:37 <MrBougo> wrtlprnft, lol
22:37 <wrtlprnft> well, it's true :-)
22:37 <MrBougo> no, because you use complex number's exponential notation
22:37 <epsy> #g 2²
22:37 <armabot> epsy: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:37 <wrtlprnft> yeah, that's exactly what i mean
22:37 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/neal/race/SpiralOfDeath-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by neal
22:37 <MrBougo> oh
22:37 <MrBougo> sin(1)=1 in degrees
22:37 <wrtlprnft> e^(i*x) = i*sin(x) + cos(x)
22:38 <MrBougo> and it's approximated :p
22:38 <wrtlprnft> err
22:38 <MrBougo> you meant sin 0
22:38 <MrBougo> oh ok
22:38 <wrtlprnft> no
22:38 <wrtlprnft> sin(π/2)
22:38 <MrBougo> oh
22:38 <wrtlprnft> actually
22:38 <wrtlprnft> grml
22:38 <MrBougo> I thought you meant it was some kind of black magic like approximating sin x to x for a small x :p
22:39 <wrtlprnft> the kind of approximation physicists use, ignoring the fact that sin(x) = tan(x) should mean that cos(x) = 1, and that all equations suddenly produce weird results if you substitute that?
22:40 <wrtlprnft> like weird factors of 2 appearing everywhere, even for really small angles?
22:40 <wrtlprnft> #g sin(1 degree)
22:40 <armabot> wrtlprnft: sin(1 degree) = 0.0174524064
22:40 <wrtlprnft> not quite
22:40 <wrtlprnft> #g sin(1/1000) - 1/1000
22:40 <MrBougo> exactly wrtlprnft
22:40 <armabot> wrtlprnft: sin(1 / 1,000) - (1 / 1,000) = -1.66666658 * 10^(-10)
22:40 <PinkTomato> #g tan(1 degree)
22:40 <MrBougo> oh it's for radians :p
22:40 <armabot> PinkTomato: tan(1 degree) = 0.0174550649
22:40 <wrtlprnft> that's more like it
22:40 <MrBougo> #g sin(0.1 rad)
22:40 <armabot> MrBougo: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:41 <MrBougo> pf
22:41 <MrBougo> #g sin(0.1 radian)
22:41 <wrtlprnft> .1 will di
22:41 <armabot> MrBougo: sin(0.1 radian) = 0.0998334166
22:41 <wrtlprnft> *do
22:41 <MrBougo> that :p
22:41 <MrBougo> I wonder...
22:41 <PinkTomato> O_o all this math is confusing, I feel cheated
22:41 <MrBougo> #g sin(1 kg)
22:41 <armabot> MrBougo: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:41 <wrtlprnft> lol!
22:41 <MrBougo> aw too bad
22:41 <PinkTomato> sin and tan are very similar
22:41 <wrtlprnft> for small angles
22:41 <MrBougo> #g log(1 gram)
22:42 <armabot> MrBougo: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:42 <wrtlprnft> if you don't look to closely
22:42 <MrBougo> (chemists sometimes do that)
22:42 <wrtlprnft> #g one second in metres
22:42 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:42 <PinkTomato> Oh I see, its on different scale
22:42 <PinkTomato> #g 1 mile in feet
22:42 <MrBougo> isn't it "to"
22:42 <armabot> PinkTomato: 1 mile = 5280 feet
22:42 <MrBougo> because "in" means "inch" too
22:42 <MrBougo> #g 1 in in in
22:42 <armabot> MrBougo: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:42 <MrBougo> aw
22:43 <wrtlprnft> MrBougo: wtf. I never knew why i used to hate chemistry
22:43 <wrtlprnft> #g 1 ft in in
22:43 <MrBougo> does it do deca-feet
22:43 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 1 foot = 12 in
22:43 <MrBougo> #g 1m in Daft
22:43 <wrtlprnft> #g 1 in in ft
22:43 <armabot> MrBougo: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:43 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 1 in = 0.0833333333 feet
22:44 <wrtlprnft> #g 1 ft on wrtlprnft's scale of unit stupidity
22:44 <PinkTomato> #g -200 K in C
22:44 <MrBougo> wrtlprnft, because you start by learning something that turns out to be wrong later
22:44 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:44 <armabot> PinkTomato: (-200) kelvin = -473.15 degrees Celsius
22:44 <PinkTomato> hehe
22:44 <wrtlprnft> MrBougo: in math you learn that it's impossible to do √(-1)
22:44 <MrBougo> like in every other science actually, but I find it to be more frustrating in chemistry
22:44 <MrBougo> also, I always had sucky chem teachers, they all hated math
22:44 <wrtlprnft> heh
22:45 <MrBougo> wrtlprnft, noone said it was possible
22:45 <MrBougo> why do we call i an imaginary number :p
22:45 <wrtlprnft> my chem teacher forced me to do those calorimetric things in a very specific way, even though my way was way faster
22:46 <MrBougo> mine would not give you the point if you didn't write the + for positive enthalpy differences
22:47 <MrBougo> or if you used ≈ instead of = even though there was an approximation
22:47 <MrBougo> ...
22:48 <wrtlprnft> … indeed
22:49 <smoothice> If I compile 0.2.8 again and then install to the same place I installed before will it replace the existing installation?
22:49 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/slyshot/quimica-4.aamap.xml: Resource by slyshot
22:49 <wrtlprnft> smoothice: probably
22:50 <smoothice> wrtlprnft: ok thanks
22:51 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/slyshot/cell-3.aamap.xml: Resource by slyshot
22:54 <armabot> armacommits: [patternbuffer-armagetronad-work] r801 Transformed regular chat messages to protocol buffers.... || [patternbuffer-armagetronad-work] r800 Fixed stupid mistakes and added global protocol buffer versi... || [patternbuffer-armagetronad-work] r799 Added network descriptors handling protocol buffers directly... || [patternbuffer-armagetronad-work] r798 Got first protobuf to compile. Yay.... || [patternbuffer-armagetronad-w
22:56 <madmax> #as <--- fail
22:56 <armabot> madmax: "<br />\n<b>Warning</b>:  mysql_connect() [<a href='function.mysql-connect'>function.mysql-connect</a>]: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (111) in <b>/www2/serverlist/connect.php</b> on line <b>2</b><br />\n<br />\n<b>Warning</b>:  mysql_select_db() [<a href='function.mysql-select-db'>function.mysql-select-db</a>]: Can't connect to local (3 more messages)
22:56 <smoothice> #help ass
22:56 <armabot> smoothice: Error: There is no command "ass".
22:56 <smoothice> GOOD!
22:56 <ct|kyle> #help as
22:56 <armabot> ct|kyle: (as <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "armaservers $*".
22:57 <ct|kyle> #as
22:57 <armabot> ct|kyle: "<br />\n<b>Warning</b>:  mysql_connect() [<a href='function.mysql-connect'>function.mysql-connect</a>]: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (111) in <b>/www2/serverlist/connect.php</b> on line <b>2</b><br />\n<br />\n<b>Warning</b>:  mysql_select_db() [<a href='function.mysql-select-db'>function.mysql-select-db</a>]: Can't connect to local (3 more messages)
22:57 <ct|kyle> wrtlprnft: ^^
22:57 <madmax> I was just saying if wrtl would want to fix it...
22:59 -!- Lizmatic [n=Lizmatic@78-27-12-206.dsl.alice.nl] has left #armagetron ["Leaving"]
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23:02 <nsh22> curse my canadian spellings of colour
23:02 <Flex> aye
23:03 <MrBougo> this is made of win: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiARsQSlzDc
23:03 <MrBougo> seriously.
23:04 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/slyshot/quimica-5.aamap.xml: Resource by slyshot
23:07 <epsy> lol??
23:07 <wrtlprnft> eek
23:07 <epsy> http://www.wegame.com/watch/Get_Quaked_3/
23:08 <epsy> air rockets air rockets more air rockets O_O
23:08 <epsy> and rails, too
23:09 <wrtlprnft>  * Starting mysql ... * Starting mysql (/etc/mysql/my.cnf) * MySQL NOT started (0)
23:09 <wrtlprnft> really helpful.
23:14 <wrtlprnft> grml, the init script was just too impatient
23:14 <wrtlprnft> didn't expect mysql to take 5 seconds to start
23:15 <fonkay> Lucifer: Brakes are for people without insurance.
23:15 <wrtlprnft> lol
23:15 <epsy> so brake is for arma players
23:15 <wrtlprnft> so you don't need brakes on respawn servers?
23:15 <fonkay> Right
23:16 <epsy> Owned.
23:16 <epsy> :o
23:16 <fonkay> Well brakes in arma are completely for sissies.
23:16 <epsy> infinite brakes are for sissies
23:17 <fonkay> You shouldn't be rubber slinging yourself fast enough to need brakes. I know I don't.
23:17 <epsy> I can need it for other stuff than grinding
23:18 <MrBougo> <epsy> air rockets air rockets more air rockets O_O
23:18 <epsy> and rail and plasma yayayaya
23:18 <MrBougo> I'm starting to hate frag videos :p
23:18 <wrtlprnft> it works fabolously for confusing attackers who want to sneak into that unfortunate hole between you and your tail end
23:18 <MrBougo> 1:30 intro, wtf?
23:18 <epsy> skip it
23:18 <MrBougo> still
23:19 <MrBougo> not really fun
23:19 <wrtlprnft> what a waste of bits
23:19 <MrBougo> mostly the same thing
23:19 <epsy> but I agree all that "omg lolz production" shit is dumb
23:19 <MrBougo> repeat the same rocket thing over and over until it works
23:19 <MrBougo> and make a video out of it :)
23:19 <epsy> haha
23:20 <MrBougo> that's basically how it works eh
23:20 <MrBougo> I believe some people play only to record videos after that
23:20 <epsy> well yeah they dont get incredible frags all the time
23:20 <epsy> it's a compilation of pretty frags
23:20 <wrtlprnft> meh, i want flying cycles, no gas stations!
23:20 <MrBougo> yep
23:21 <MrBougo> I prefer compilations of pretty fails :p
23:21 <epsy> half are from organized matches, if you look closely
23:21 <MrBougo> yep
23:21 <epsy> like, um,  you're winner?
23:21 <MrBougo> haven't played any quake
23:21 <MrBougo> epsy, ?
23:21 <Flex> grand theft arma..
23:21 <MrBougo> which one :p
23:21 <epsy> the nex one rofl
23:21 <MrBougo> I don't remember seeing that one
23:22 <epsy> I mean the map
23:22 <MrBougo> this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WljLd-09IeQ
23:22 <epsy> you know, the one with cars & gothrough bridges
23:22 <MrBougo> well, it's meant to work like big rigs :p
23:22 <MrBougo> and it's pure gold
23:22 <epsy> yeah someone told me
23:23 <MrBougo> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB1zWEhgrLs
23:23 <MrBougo> that's the original :p
23:23 <PinkTomato> LOL, I've played that
23:25 <PinkTomato> I don't get it  though.
23:25 <epsy> MrBougo, there's a better video of nexbigrigs by div
23:26 <epsy> only if I could remember his youtube nick
23:27 <epsy> http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=K4UBFImE-Ss&feature=channel
23:27 <MrBougo> mai42ator
23:30 <epsy> nighty
23:30 <epsy> and btw that nex map is annoying as fuck :<
23:31 -!- epsy [n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy] has quit ["uʍop-ǝpısdn ǝʇıɹʍ sǝop ǝuo ʍoɥ ƃuıɹǝpuoʍ ǝq ʎɐɯ noʎ.. it's pretty simple: JUST WRITE UPSIDE-DOWN!"]
23:31 <MrBougo> that's the point :p
23:31 <MrBougo> PinkTomato, well, the game is bad, that's all
23:31 <MrBougo> and they're working on an online version
23:33 <PinkTomato> MrBougo but why make it!?
23:33 <PinkTomato> why was it allowed to sell?!
23:33 <ct|kyle> #armaservers
23:33 <armabot> ct|kyle: This data is 32 seconds old; {Delicious Desserts} Racing II (9/16), Wild West  =Sumo= (9/14), Wild West  =Capture The Flag Two= (9/10), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (8/10), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (8/12), Wall-E Land (Loose DF Touching Walls Aloud) (7/8), {animuson} solo racing (7/10), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (7/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (6/14), WILDCAT (2 more messages)
23:33 <MrBougo> PinkTomato, man
23:33 <MrBougo> that game is AWESOME
23:34 <PinkTomato> but its soo rubbish
23:34 <MrBougo> that makes it awesome
23:34 -!- MaZuffeR [n=mazuffer@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has quit ["Ex-Chat"]
23:34 <PinkTomato> i guess , in an odd way
23:35 <MrBougo> yep
23:35 <MrBougo> these bugs are very creativity
23:35 <MrBougo> don't you appreciate creativity in a game? :p
23:36 <MrBougo> this game innovates... nothing similar was seen before
23:36 <PinkTomato> how do you make a bug where you reverse at 2,000,000 miles an hour?
23:36 <PinkTomato> they must have done it on purpose
23:37 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o armabot] by ChanServ
23:37 <MrBougo> maybe
23:37 <MrBougo> #r
23:37 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@59.164-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has left #armagetron [requested by armabot: "BANG!"]
23:37  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
23:37 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@59.164-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #armagetron
23:37 <MrBougo> note to self: never play real russian roulette
23:37 <MrBougo> #r
23:37 <@armabot> MrBougo: *click*
23:38 <MrBougo> alright
23:38 <MrBougo> your turn PinkTomato :p
23:38 <PinkTomato> #r
23:38 <@armabot> PinkTomato: *click*
23:39 <smoothice> #r
23:39 <@armabot> smoothice: *click*
23:39 <smoothice> #r
23:39 <@armabot> smoothice: *click*
23:39 <smoothice> la,e
23:39 <smoothice> lame
23:39 -!- G5 [n=G5@cl-506.dus-01.de.sixxs.net] has quit []
23:40 <PinkTomato> #r
23:40 <@armabot> PinkTomato: *click*
23:40 <PinkTomato> how many chambers has it got?
23:40 <madmax> so what model is the gun?
23:40 <madmax> do it PinkTomato!
23:41 <PinkTomato> with fear
23:41 <PinkTomato> #r
23:41 -!- PinkTomato [n=sam@5ac7564c.bb.sky.com] has left #armagetron [requested by armabot: "BANG!"]
23:41  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
23:41 <ct|kyle> #r
23:41 <@armabot> ct|kyle: *click*
23:41 -!- animuson [n=animuson@CM-204-193-203-81.omah.tconl.com] has quit ["Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com"]
23:43 <MrBougo> * PinkTomato (n=sam@5ac7564c.bb.sky.com) has left #armagetron (requested by armabot: "BANG!")
23:43 <MrBougo> why don't these look like kicks?!
23:43 -!- PinkTomato [n=sam@5ac7564c.bb.sky.com] has joined #armagetron
23:43 <BabyBug> Because they're not kicks
23:43 <PinkTomato> :D
23:43 <MrBougo> BabyBug, ?!
23:43 <BabyBug> MrBougo, It's /remove not /kick
23:43 <BabyBug> that armabot is using
23:43 <MrBougo> /remove ?
23:43 <MrBougo> never heard of this :o
23:44 <BabyBug> freenode only
23:44 <BabyBug> afaik
23:44 <smoothice> #r
23:44 <@armabot> smoothice: *click*
23:45 <PinkTomato> what's a kick like then?
23:45 <MrBougo> eh :p
23:45 <PinkTomato> wait I shouldn't ask
23:45 <PinkTomato> :)
23:45 <BabyBug> :P
23:47 <MrBougo> "This has the advantage that it does not trigger auto-rejoin scripts. "
23:47 <MrBougo> eh nice :p
23:47 <MrBougo> PinkTomato, /join #0,0
23:47 <BabyBug> (don't)
23:47 <MrBougo> there I can kick you :p
23:47 <MrBougo> not.
23:47 <PinkTomato> /join #0,0
23:47 <MrBougo> awww
23:47 <PinkTomato> /join #0,0
23:47 <PinkTomato> -.-
23:47 <MrBougo> awww part two?
23:48 -!- PinkTomato [n=sam@5ac7564c.bb.sky.com] has left #armagetron []
23:48 <MrBougo> awww
23:48 <smoothice> #r
23:48 <@armabot> smoothice: *click*
23:48 <MrBougo> #r
23:48 <@armabot> MrBougo: *click*
23:48 -!- PinkTomato [n=sam@5ac7564c.bb.sky.com] has joined #armagetron
23:48 <PinkTomato> ...
23:48 <MrBougo> welcome back :p
23:48 <PinkTomato> I've been noobed
23:48 <dlh> #r
23:48 <@armabot> dlh: *click*
23:48 <MrBougo> BabyBug, I wonder if the guys on #0 see you joining and parting then :p
23:48 <BabyBug> i told you not to PinkTomato =P
23:49 <MrBougo> PinkTomato, it's a way to hide /join 0
23:49 <MrBougo> which means "leave all channels"
23:49 <PinkTomato> hmm.. odd feature
23:53 <BabyBug> #n9
23:53 <@armabot> BabyBug: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (0/16):
23:54 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/slyshot/quimica-6.aamap.xml: Resource by slyshot

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