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Log from 2009-01-21:
--- Day changed Wed Jan 21 2009
00:03 <BabyBug> #n9
00:03 <@armabot> BabyBug: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (0/16):
00:06 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r812 Added nNetObject sync message stub....
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00:24 <nsh22> hey
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02:45 <nsh22> hey
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03:11 <BabyBug> #n9
03:11 <@armabot> BabyBug: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (0/16):
03:11 <BabyBug> :@
03:12 <nsh22> hey
03:16 <Stewah> D:
03:17 <nsh22> #neal
03:17 <nsh22> #n
03:17 <nsh22> #
03:27 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/neal/race/LifesDecisions-0.0.2.aamap.xml: Resource by neal
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05:02 <Lucifer> woo-hoo
05:02 <Lucifer> Australia emailed me, and they'd like to have a phone interview
05:02 <luke-jr> …
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05:05 <Lucifer> there won't be an in-person interview, sadly, although I'd love it if they flew me out to Australia for an in-person interview
05:05 <BabyBug> lol Lucifer, arn't you sleeping when they're awake and vice versa? :P
05:06 <Lucifer> BabyBug: no, heh
05:06 <luke-jr> caught my wife talking to her "ex"-boyfriend on the phone..
05:06 <Lucifer> I'm awake when they are, and I sleep when they do
05:06 <Lucifer> luke-jr: I take it he's not really an ex?
05:06 <Lucifer> BabyBug: this one is extremely promising
05:06 <luke-jr> well, she's not supposed to talk to him period
05:06 <BabyBug> Lucifer, How so?
05:06 <BabyBug> luke-jr, why not? :S
05:06 <Lucifer> they asked for a code sample.  The code sample I sent them is work I did when I was working for SugarCRM
05:07 <luke-jr> BabyBug: for obvious reasons
05:07 <Lucifer> I emailed earlier to ask if he'd gone over it, and he said yes
05:07 <Lucifer> not only that, he said they run SugarCRM internally and are having problems with it, so I may be a bit more than they were looking for
05:07 <BabyBug> luke-jr? :s
05:07 <BabyBug> what's SugarCRM?
05:07 <Lucifer> luke-jr: has there been a problem with him and her in the past, or is this your male insecurity?
05:07 <BabyBug> quick answer, not the long one :P
05:07 <Lucifer> BabyBug: Contact Relationship Management software
05:08 <BabyBug> ahhh
05:08 <Lucifer> or Customer Relationship Management, depending on how you use it
05:08 <luke-jr> Lucifer: her relationship with him has always been during the marriage
05:08 <Lucifer> luke-jr: man, oh man, I don't want to be in your shoes
05:08 <luke-jr> yeah, my shoes are pretty old
05:09 <luke-jr> currently, she is sleeping on the couch
05:09 <BabyBug> Lucifer, How would you be payed? USD or AUD? :P
05:09 <sinewav> :(
05:10 <Lucifer> BabyBug: don't know, probably USD since they're hiring to open an office here in Austin
05:10 <Lucifer> but they're planning on opening the office in March, so it may be AUD for awhile
05:10 <Lucifer> I wonder if I can pay in AUD at the grocery store, heh ;)
05:10 <BabyBug> oh right, ok, i thought it was an internet job ^^
05:10 <Lucifer> so it'll be a work from home job for the first few months, which will be spanking awesome
05:10 <BabyBug> oo yup! =D
05:10 <Lucifer> and maybe I can influence where they place the actual office
05:11 <BabyBug> in your house? :P
05:11 <Lucifer> you know, so I can ride my bike to it, and from it to my job at the school ;)
05:12 <Lucifer> also, my experience with negotiations like this tells me to expect an answer tomorrow on the phone, or soon after, and to be able to start work literally immediately
05:12 <BabyBug> \o/
05:12 <luke-jr> Lucifer: why would you keep the job at the school? O.o
05:12 <sinewav> chicks
05:13  * BabyBug slaps sinewav 
05:13  * sinewav looks down at the ground, ashamed
05:14  * BabyBug hates the word chicks...say babes next time =P
05:15 <luke-jr> quack
05:15 <sinewav> how about birds?
05:15 <sinewav> chicks aren't always "babes"
05:16 <luke-jr> yeah, BabyBug is too ugly to be a babe
05:16 <BabyBug> You haven't even seen a picture =P
05:16 <sinewav> :o
05:16 <luke-jr> ☺
05:17 <sinewav> I'm quite handsome
05:17 <BabyBug> pics or it's not true
05:17 <sinewav> hold...
05:17 <sinewav> You'll get a kick out of this.
05:17 <sinewav> http://adventuresoftron.com/aa/tron-bri.jpg
05:18 <BabyBug> ...
05:19 <BabyBug> got an unmodified pic? =P
05:19 <sinewav> I'm also facetious
05:19 <sinewav> lemme look.
05:19 <luke-jr> sinewav: ooh make me one
05:20 <BabyBug> sinewav, not facetious enough for me! =P
05:20 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: where is your picture, I don't think we've seen it
05:21 <sinewav> luke-jr: A lot of people want me to make one. wierd!
05:22 <sinewav> BabyBug: it seems I love the photoshop
05:22 <sinewav> http://fileshare.brianhilmers.com/hilmers0707.jpg
05:22 <sinewav> Oh wait...
05:22 <sinewav> http://brianhilmers.com/hilmers/about.jpg
05:24 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: of course *you* haven't
05:24  * BabyBug goes to cuddle ct|kyle but kicks him and runs off at the last minute
05:24  * ct|kyle tickles BabyBug
05:24 <BabyBug> that's not me, that's Lucifer
05:24 <BabyBug> shave dude!
05:24 <BabyBug> :P
05:24 <BabyBug> love the hat though \o/ =P
05:24 <BabyBug> luke-jr, link a pic of you =D
05:24 <sinewav> http://brianhilmers.com/00/BH2002.jpg
05:24 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: he can't shave then he can't be a Cter :P
05:24 <sinewav> Above is from 2002
05:25 <BabyBug> oooo waaaayyy too many piercings xD
05:25 <sinewav> actually, I did shave down to a patch on my chin. no pics yet
05:26 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, then all cters are horrible kissers!
05:26 <luke-jr> BabyBug: http://tinyurl.com/8ouqr5
05:27 <BabyBug> haha awwwwww =D
05:27 <BabyBug> she/he is wearing pink! \o/
05:27 <luke-jr> oops http://dashjr.org/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=21404&g2_serialNumber=2
05:28 <BabyBug> You look very young luke-jr =)
05:28 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/4092/dsc0004bh6.jpg :P
05:28 <luke-jr> BabyBug: actually, that's david-jr
05:29 <luke-jr> when he was about 6 months old
05:30 <BabyBug> awww =) How old is he now?
05:30 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, shave!
05:30 <luke-jr> about twice that
05:31 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: that's a few years old, but i still have not shaved them :)
05:31 <sinewav> don't try to please the Bug.
05:32 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, you should shave!
05:32 <BabyBug> also learn to show better pictures of your face :P
05:32 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: nope :)
05:33 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: I did not even know that picture was taken LOL
05:33 <BabyBug> ><
05:33  * BabyBug castrates ct|kyle
05:33 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/4176/p1300047fa2.jpg
05:33 <BabyBug> (don't complain, i just increased you life expectency by 13 years and now you won't go bald!)
05:34 <ct|kyle> that is also a year or 2 old
05:34 <BabyBug> lol you should defiantly shave em...they so don't work.. lol
05:38  * sinewav notices that BabyBug has yet to offer an image to scrutinize.
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05:39 <BabyBug> I don't show pictures =P
05:39 <sinewav> I think I'll adopt that.
05:40 <ct|kyle> sinewav: that's cause he know's he is ugly
05:41 <BabyBug> he? ><
05:41 <sinewav> lol!
05:44 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: no proof the either way :P
05:45 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: you even said you looked like Lucifer
05:45 <ct|kyle> (23:21:41) ***ct|kyle tickles BabyBug
05:45 <ct|kyle> (23:21:52) BabyBug: that's not me, that's Lucifer
05:45 <BabyBug> typical american logic
05:46 <ct|kyle> i was about to point that out then and there :P
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05:56 <ct|kyle> #g 1.8m +142.5 cm + (5.35*10^5 micrometers)
05:56 <@armabot> ct|kyle: (1.8 m) + (142.5 cm) + (5.35 * (10^5) micrometers) = 3.76 meters
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06:05 <Lucifer> luke-jr: I would keep my job at the school because I love it
06:05  * Lucifer <----- babe
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06:07 <Lucifer> also, there are some hot CHICKS in the classes I'm working this semester (as usual)
06:07 <Lucifer> and this semester I'm not all emotionally ripped up
06:09 <sinewav> I keep thinking I will go back to school, but I hate everything.
06:11 <Lucifer> sinewav: that's no excuse, since everything hates you
06:12 <Lucifer> er, that wasn't nice of me
06:12  * Lucifer slaps himself
06:12 <sinewav> I've always thought that!
06:12 <Lucifer> apparently I had a good ride home, I'm in a great mood again
06:12  * Lucifer rode his bike to work again
06:12  * sinewav misses my bike riding
06:13 <Lucifer> why?  winter?
06:13 <Lucifer> (not why do you miss it, that's self-evident to anyone who rides)
06:13 <sinewav> yeah, too dangerous with the ice and snow
06:13 <Lucifer> snow tires!  ;)
06:13 <sinewav> too broke for that
06:13 <Lucifer> chains?  I wonder if those would work on a bicycle
06:14 <sinewav> hmm... a new invention?
06:14 <Lucifer> you know, just take the ones off your waist and put them on the bicycle
06:14 <Lucifer> actually, if you could get one of those trikes that's not single-gear, that might be workable
06:14 <sinewav> http://www.icebike.org/Equipment/tirechains.htm
06:16 <Lucifer> One caused a nasty accident when it came loose and seized the front wheel.  This is apparently not that rare.
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06:17 <e_n_d_e_r> there are only like 10 ppl online heh
06:18 <sinewav> The other night I saw only 2 people on. That's the fewest I've seen since I started playing 1 year ago
06:18 <Lucifer> when I first started playing, it wasn't uncommon to find 0 people on
06:19 <sinewav> yeah I bet
06:20 <Lucifer> I guess if people are riding in the snow, I can just bite the bullet and ride in texas winter
06:21 <Lucifer> the main problem is a lack of gear, though
06:21 <Lucifer> nothing to keep my head warm, no goggles
06:21 <Lucifer> if the windchill is low enough, not having goggles could be dangerous to my eyes
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06:21 <sinewav> Yeah, it's really too cold to ride here, for another 2 months at least
06:22 <sinewav> I had to walk to work in -10 weather last week
06:25 <sinewav> Lucifer: I'm making some pretty good headway with the sound design. I'm not doing any recording right now though, just using software synths (powerful ones though). Any ideas you wanted to try?
06:37 <Lucifer> such as?  heh
06:37 <Lucifer> to be honest, my mind is as far away from the sound engine as it can be right now
06:38 <Lucifer> I don't want to leave you on your own, I just have a very strong pressing need to get a job and all the stuff that goes with it
06:38 <Lucifer> it's highly likely that any new sound ideas you have, I'm going to take, whenever I get to the sound engine again
06:38 <Lucifer> but right now, arma rates on my priority list after getting a job, and my highest priority arma task is getting 0.3.1 out the door
06:44 <sinewav> I totally understand man.
06:52 <e_n_d_e_r> snow in tx?!?!
06:52 <e_n_d_e_r> where you at luci
06:53 <e_n_d_e_r> oh nvm lol
07:00 <Lucifer> #weather 78729
07:00 <@armabot> Lucifer: The current temperature in Anderson Mill / Parmer, Austin, Texas is 31.3°F (12:00 AM CST on January 21, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 21.2°F. Windchill: 32.0°F. Pressure: 30.29 in 1025.6 hPa (Steady).
07:00 <Lucifer> holy crap, freezing temperatures weren't in the forecast!
07:05 <sinewav> #weather 60130
07:05 <@armabot> sinewav: The current temperature in Oak Park, IL, Oak Park, Illinois is 14.0°F (12:05 AM CST on January 21, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 6.8°F. Windchill: 14.0°F. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018.2 hPa (Falling).
07:05 <Lucifer> I'd hate to ride my bike in that weather
07:05 <Lucifer> tomorrow is supposed to go up to 76
07:05 <sinewav> it's a heatwave comapred to last week.
07:05 <Lucifer> beautiful bike-riding weather
07:06  * Lucifer doesn't think we're getting a real winter this year
07:06 <sinewav> what kind of bike you got?
07:06 <Lucifer> it's a cheapo mountain bike I picked up at Academy
07:06 <Lucifer> Ozone500 (generic brand)
07:06 <Lucifer> I forget the company that actually makes it, they have tons of different brands
07:06 <Lucifer> but if I get this job from the aussie and it pays decently, I"ll probably buy my roommates schwinn
07:08 <sinewav> cool. Last yeah I bought a chinese hybrid. 7 gears, street tires. Mostly for riding to work. ain't no mountains in Chicago.
07:08 <sinewav> big ass potholes though
07:10 <sinewav> http://jimsbicycleshop.com/images/RaleighVentureM.gif
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07:28 <Lucifer> ah, I live in the Texas Hill Country
07:28 <Lucifer> I'll use 12 gears on a typical ride to work :/
07:28 <Lucifer> I've got 28, although there are duplicates in there
07:28 <sinewav> dayum
07:29 <Lucifer> it *is* a mountain bike :)
07:29 <Lucifer> normal roadster around here sells with 18 gears
07:29 <sinewav> Chicago is F L A T
07:29 <Lucifer> I kind of like the hills
07:29 <Lucifer> huff and puff to the crest, coast to the valley ;)
07:29 <sinewav> I'm ok with some hills. I used to live in San Diego.
07:30 <sinewav> My ears would pop on the drive to work
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07:31 <Lucifer> heh
07:31 <Lucifer> well, dinner time, which means time for some star trek :)
07:31 <sinewav> later bro
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10:33 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r815 Added sync handling for protocol buffer messages.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r814 Added object creation read code.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r813 Stubs for managing functions....
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13:48 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r816 Implemented nNetObject syncing protocol with pbuffers....
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14:50 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r817 Added assertion....
14:52 <epsy> stupid dots :<
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15:55 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r820 Profiling output.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r819 Cleanup.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r818 Fixed reading of true pbuffer messages....
16:05 <epsy> zmanuel, isn't one the the biggest points of switching to this to scramble down messages to simply whatever changes?
16:31 <zmanuel> Yep :)
16:32 <epsy> right, so the 2Bytes overheat is .. meaningless?
16:32 <zmanuel> I'd say. I was pretty surprised.
16:33 <epsy> but er, if data structure definitions are different between server and client, what happens?
16:34 <zmanuel> Those data bits not sent by the sender will appear at default values (and marked as missing) for the receiver
16:34 <zmanuel> And extra data bits sent are shoved into a "unknown bits" section, which of course is useless for all but debugging :)
16:36 -!- zmanuel is now known as z-man
16:36 <epsy> oh, but can you ommit a value without changing the structure?
16:36 <z-man> Yeah.
16:37 <z-man> Provided it's marked as optional.
16:37 <z-man> Currently, I have marked all fields as "required", because that's what the converter to old messages assumes marks fields it has to convert.
16:37 <z-man> It doesn't make a difference for how an element appears on the network.
16:38 <z-man> So I'll probably change them all to optional and find some other way to tell the converter where to stop.
16:55 <wrtlprnft> that's probably gonna crete some more overhead
16:55 <wrtlprnft> *create
16:55 <wrtlprnft> or is it?
16:57 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r821 Small corrections....
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17:32 <z-man> wrtlprnft: depends on how it's done. The data when to stop can be purely in the message definition.
17:32 <z-man> For example, it could be a never used element with an insanely high ID
17:32 <z-man> like:
17:32 <z-man> message Chat{
17:33 <z-man> optional uint32 sender = 1;
17:33 <z-man> optional string chat = 2;
17:33 <z-man> optional OLD_MESSAGE_STOPS_HERE = 9999;
17:33 <z-man> optional string new_stuff_added = 3;
17:33 <z-man> }
17:40 <wrtlprnft> no, i mean, do optional fields cost more than required ones?
17:41 <z-man> No.
17:42 <wrtlprnft> ok :-)
17:43 <wrtlprnft> i was assuming they'd require metadata as to whether or not they're included which required stuff wouldn't need
17:44 <z-man> The required fields have the same data; the receiver needs to be able to detect if a required element is missing.
17:45 <wrtlprnft> so it's always id:<length deduced from definition file or part of the data>:actual data?
17:46 <z-man> yeah, and 'data type' thrown into it.
17:47 <z-man> As far as I understand, they create a single int out of 'data type id + (element id << 3)'
17:47 <z-man> then flexencode that
17:48 <z-man> (write the lowest seven bits into a byte; higest bit zero means it's done, highest bit one means another byte of the same value follows)
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17:48 <z-man> then comes data depending on the data type.
17:50 <wrtlprnft> so your OLD_MESSAGE_STOPS_HERE should probably be more in the region of 20 to avoid the overhead of bigger ints
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17:50 <z-man> but it's never sent :)
17:50 <wrtlprnft> ooh, i didn't see that new stuff was 3 and not 10000
17:51 <wrtlprnft> *new_stuff
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17:51 <wrtlprnft> neat.
17:51 <wrtlprnft> (who came up with declaring IDs with =? I always assume they're default values)
17:52 <z-man> Does anyone have a polite way of saying this Fini guy that if he's too stupid to follow a download link, he's too stupid to admin a server?
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17:52 <mib_o7qnrl3t> Please RTFM.
17:52 <z-man> Yeah, the syntax there is a bit confusing.
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17:52 <z-man> We already said RTFM.
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17:53 <z-man> Thinking about it, where are the default values?
17:53 <wrtlprnft> heh
17:53  * z-man RTFM
17:53 <wrtlprnft> i was thinking that, too (not havin read the manual, i should probably do that instead of asking you stupid questions)
17:54 <epsy_cba> also if someone could size down his signature .. :|
17:55 <z-man> ah:
17:55 <z-man> optional int32 stuff = 3 [default = 10];
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18:01 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r826 Adapted master and client builds to protocol buffers.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r825 Still more ignores.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r824 Adapted dedicated server windows build to protocol buffers.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r823 Batch file to compile .proto files.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r822 Added protobuf generated fil
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18:21  * wrtlprnft imagines Fini searching for his nick on google one day and finding z-man's question in my chatlogs :-)
18:22 <epsy_cba> fini searching on google?
18:22 <epsy_cba> you day-dreamer, heh
18:22 <wrtlprnft> maybe he'll grow up
18:23 <wrtlprnft> one day, far away in the distant future
18:24  * wrtlprnft never knew nMessage could do arrays… I didn't see it when i was trying to implement all those operators in php
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18:32 <luke-jr> z-man: any idea if bzr-svn backdates timestamps on push?
18:32 <z-man> It would if it could.
18:33 <z-man> sourceforge doesn't allow it, though.
18:34 <luke-jr> o :/
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18:34 <luke-jr> so in theory, push should make it look like my commits happened to mainline exactly as they occurred?
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18:38 <Lizmatic> babybug not in wow :OOO
18:39 <BabyBug> downloading the patch =P
18:39 <z-man> if by "in theory" you mean "if I push to my own repository", then yes.
18:39 <luke-jr> well, I'm actually referring to a company repo ☺
18:40 <luke-jr> which is a pain cuz their VPN doesn't always work
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18:52 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8872 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/tron/gWall.cpp): Manuel Moos: Better logic for lowering rim wall rendering height to match the sky height.
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19:03 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r990 Better logic for lowering rim wall rendering height to match...
19:05 <wrtlprnft> magic numbers, boo!
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19:10  * BabyBug looks puzzled at wrtlprnft 
19:18 <wrtlprnft> the code z-man just replaced compared a value to 9000
19:18 <wrtlprnft> which is a magic number in that context
19:18 <wrtlprnft> which is said to be evil
19:18 <BabyBug> What's a magic number?
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19:19 <Berrybeans> hey pplz :D
19:20 <wrtlprnft> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_number_(programming)#Unnamed_numerical_constant
19:20 <Berrybeans> cant see it :P
19:22 <wrtlprnft> hi Berrybeans 
19:22 <wrtlprnft> that link was intended for BabyBug :-)
19:22 <Berrybeans> lol :P
19:22 <Berrybeans> ok then
19:22 <BabyBug> i'll read through that in 10 :P
19:22 <wrtlprnft> Compiled Java class files (bytecode) start with hex CAFEBABE. When compressed with Pack200 the bytes are changed to CAFED00D.
19:22 <wrtlprnft> lol
19:23 <Berrybeans> lol so u guys play tron still??
19:23 <wrtlprnft> sometimes
19:23 <Berrybeans> cool cool :D
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19:26 <dBd|Click> there we go :P
19:27 <wrtlprnft> #roulette
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19:27 <wrtlprnft> err
19:27 <ct|kyle> #r
19:27 <dBd|Click> lol what happened?
19:27 <@armabot> ct|kyle: *click*
19:27 <wrtlprnft> since when does armabot have op status again?
19:27 <dBd|Click> i dunno :P
19:28 <wrtlprnft> grml, this is the first time i got kicked.
19:28 <dBd|Click> lolz
19:28 <BabyBug> since i can kick you wrtlprnft!
19:28 <BabyBug> =P
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19:28 <@wrtlprnft> BabyBug: can you?
19:29 <BabyBug> lol predictable xD
19:29 <dBd|Click> lol :O
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19:29 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: kick him
19:29 <dBd|Click> kick who??
19:29 <ct|kyle> wrtlprnft:
19:29 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, you don't shave so i won't listen to you! lalalalalala
19:30 <dBd|Click> lol
19:30 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: I do to shave, just not my nice sideburns :)
19:30 <dBd|Click> ima go pwn in racing :D
19:30 <wrtlprnft> w - a blessed +9 pair of kicking boots named pwn (worn)
19:30 <wrtlprnft> #kick
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19:30 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
19:31 <wrtlprnft> in what direction? j
19:31 <Lizmatic> kick me BabyBug!
19:31 <wrtlprnft> BabyBug gets splattered all around
19:32 <wrtlprnft> ^D i mean, #kick doesn't even exist
19:32 <wrtlprnft> shame on me
19:32 <BabyBug> wrtlprnft, yes it does :P
19:32 <wrtlprnft> not in nethack
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20:37 <madmax> #tea
20:37 <@armabot> madmax: Fortress Café: Players (10/32): CTxTadd, DoCtOr~<(^.^)>, Hex, madmax, MrChicho, Player 1, |x|Dimb, ~BoO!~<(^.^)>~, ¦×¦ Hoax, ¦×¦ Radian
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21:13 <wrtlprnft> z-man: err, is it just me failing to see it or do protocol buffers not suport floats?
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21:13 <wrtlprnft> zmanuel, z-man: err, is it just me failing to see it or do protocol buffers not suport floats?
21:14 <wrtlprnft> though we could of course just use our old float encoding function and make google believe they're uint32s
21:14 <zmanuel> no, they support floats and doubles just fine.
21:15 <wrtlprnft> oh, right at the top, no description, darn me
21:16 <wrtlprnft> i directly skipped to the rows that had something in the notes column
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21:27 <nsh22> WOW... lagtest site. wow. just amazing. wow
21:27 <Lucifer> well that's an interesting development
21:27 <nsh22> what is?
21:27 <Lucifer> my replacement at the school is going to be unable to do the job, so I just received all the nighttime hours again
21:27 <Lucifer> it's an improvement, at least
21:28 <BabyBug> you prefer working at night?
21:28 <Lucifer> well, yes and no
21:28 <nsh22> what do you do at the school?
21:28 <Lucifer> I like working at night, but there are disadvantages that go with it that I don't want
21:28 <Lucifer> nsh22: I'm a physics lab assistant
21:28 <nsh22> oh
21:28 <Lucifer> low pay, few hours, but it's a wonderful job
21:28 <nsh22> are u able to play while at work?
21:28 <Lucifer> nsh22: no, they block udp traffic
21:29 <nsh22> aw
21:29  * Lucifer has to leave for work soon
21:29 <wrtlprnft> zmanuel: you'll be pleased to know that google knows very well about CamelCase and underscore_seperated_identifiers… they even convert between them for java
21:30 <wrtlprnft> grml, that's what you get for designing a language that has a style guide for how you're supposed to name your methods/classes
21:30 <BabyBug> wth does grml stand for?
21:30 <wrtlprnft> or for using a language that was designed that way, which we luckily don't
21:30 <zmanuel> Yes, but some of their method names in the C++ interface are CamelCase, some underscored.
21:31 <epsy> Google Roams Mail Lists
21:31 <wrtlprnft> just a random noise
21:31 <wrtlprnft> disappointment, anger, disapprovement, that kind of thing
21:31 <BabyBug> O.o
21:33 <wrtlprnft> grrrrrrrml
21:33  * BabyBug shoves wrtlprnft in a grml
21:33 <nsh22> lol
21:33 <wrtlprnft> General Reuse Markup Language
21:34 <wrtlprnft> grml.org - Linux Live-CD for sysadmins and texttools-users
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21:41 <Lucifer> zmanuel: I think you should know, I'm a little disappointed and a little excited about your google find
21:41 <Lucifer> I'm disappointed because dammit, I wanted to write a python program that did exactly that!
21:41 <Lucifer> but I'm excited because now I don't have to :)
21:41 <dlh> Lucifer: 0.3.1 release soon?
21:42 <Lucifer> dlh: we'll see, I had hoped to release it already, but the windows version wasn't ready and took more work
21:42 <Lucifer> now I've got higher priorities, like finding a job....
21:42 <Lucifer> right now I'm unable to plan beyond this evening
21:42 <Lucifer> and I have to work this evening
21:43 <dlh> hmm, yes that is a higher priority
21:43 <Lucifer> if you want to take it over and push it through, I think it's mostly ready for release
21:43 <Lucifer> z-man did some work on the windows version, we could use a new set of alphas, and I can build autopackages later this evening for it
21:44 <Lucifer> otherwise, I'll get back to it as soon as I can, hopefully soon (I'm hoping this weekend)
21:44 <Lucifer> on the bright side, I've got a phone interview scheduled for 5pm this evening that's very promising
21:44 <Lucifer> and another one for 1pm tomorrow afternoon that's also very promising
21:45 <ivantis2> whats a phone interview?
21:45 <zmanuel> Lucifer: yeah, I really wanted to write something like that, too :)
21:45 <nsh22> ivantis2 : its an interview over the phone
21:46 <ivantis2> that sounds easy
21:46 <Lucifer> ivantis2: they're usually done to sift out the unqualified applicants that made it through the initial resume screen
21:46 <Lucifer> they're also usually followed up by one or more in-person interviews, for the applicants that make it past the phone interview
21:47 <Lucifer> the ones that don't, well, they're told "We'll call you"
21:47 <ivantis2> "Yeah, we'll get back to you"
21:47 <nsh22> i had that happen to me
21:47 <Lucifer> my problem is getting to the phone interview
21:48 <ivantis2> how does inotail -f work? it watches the timestamp of the file? or it gets updates when the file is updated automatically?
21:48 <Lucifer> generally speaking, once I get the phone interview, I'm in
21:48 <epsy> ivantis2, it uses ... tadadada INOTify !
21:48 <Lucifer> hell, over the weekend I had a wonderful job, heh
21:48 <Lucifer> well, gotta clean up my scraggly face a bit and then go to work, bbl
21:49 <nsh22> over the weekend?
21:49 <Lucifer> #weather 78729
21:49  * epsy points out that the first thing written on inotail's manpage is 
21:49 <epsy>        inotail - A fast and lightweight version of tail using inotify
21:49 <Lucifer> it's a beautiful day to ride
21:49 <@armabot> Lucifer: The current temperature in Anderson Mill / Parmer, Austin, Texas is 74.7°F (2:45 PM CST on January 21, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 18%. Dew Point: 28.4°F. Pressure: 30.09 in 1018.8 hPa (Falling).
21:49 <nsh22> #weather innisfil
21:49 <@armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Innisfil, Innisfil, Ontario is 23.9°F (3:49 PM EST on January 21, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 10.4°F. Windchill: 19.4°F. Pressure: 28.85 in 976.9 hPa (Steady).
21:49 <nsh22> i win
21:49 <ivantis2> so when the program editing it saves it, the thing that actually saves it tells inotail?
21:49 <epsy> #weather nsh22
21:49 <@armabot> epsy: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
21:49 <epsy> no, the kernel notices it
21:49 <epsy> #weather nsh
21:50 <@armabot> epsy: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
21:50 <ivantis2> #weather 66044
21:50 <@armabot> ivantis2: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 49.1°F (2:49 PM CST on January 21, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 28.4°F. Windchill: 48.2°F. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015.1 hPa (Falling).
21:50 <epsy> #weather epsy
21:50 <@armabot> epsy: The current temperature in Kaliningrad, Poland is 33.8°F (10:30 PM EET on January 21, 2009). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 33.8°F. Windchill: 28.4°F. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
21:50 <ivantis2> ??
21:50 <nsh22> #weather nsh22
21:50 <@armabot> nsh22: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
21:50 <ivantis2> #weather ivantis
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21:50 <epsy> ivantis2, man inotify
21:50 <@armabot> ivantis2: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
21:50 <ivantis2> i dont get one?
21:51 <ivantis2> and why are f00li5h and iank still here?
21:51 <epsy> who cares except you?
21:52 <ivantis2> no one
21:52 <epsy> Right.
22:11 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r828 Added stubs for utility functions....
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23:08 <nsh22> hey pink
23:08 <PinkTomato> hi nsh22
23:08 <PinkTomato> ^^
23:08 <nsh22> lol
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23:40 <nsh22> ugh, anybody know how to get phpbb working on x10hosting?
23:43 <flea> nsh22,can you upload the package into a web folder and go to that url
23:44 <nsh22> it installs into the public_html folde4r
23:44 <nsh22> which is the default
23:45 <nsh22> ima start from scratch and see
23:49 <nsh22> opinion question: what is better: yabb forums or phpbb forums
23:52  * BabyBug throws ct|kyle off a cliff
23:56 <PinkTomato> nsh22: don't ask about forums!
23:56 <nsh22> lol why not?
23:56 <PinkTomato> we already had this argument about which is best ^^
23:56 <BabyBug> And neither of all the forums are the best
23:56 <nsh22> well, my host is beiong a homo and isnt showing the installed forum
23:56 <BabyBug> As it differs for what you want :)
23:57 <nsh22> GRRRRRR
23:57 <nsh22> it took me a month to get this stupid free host and now it wont let me add phpbb
23:58 <flea> nsh22, i would complain too if i sucked
23:58 <nsh22> XD
23:59 <dlh> #sd -v café
23:59 <@armabot> dlh: Fortress Café (armagetron.at:4539) running 0.2.8_alpha20090117 unix dedicated, url: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/, Description: “This is a fortress server. Expect to be kicked if you don't know how to play. To learn how to play try http://wiki.armagetronad.net/“, Players (11/32): CT_emmy (peiaemanuel@ct), Flex, free kill, Lackadaisical, madmax (madmax@forums), MaZuffeR, preSsure, Tðbê, |x| (1 more message)

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