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Log from 2009-01-05:
--- Day changed Mon Jan 05 2009
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00:15 <PinkTomato> wrtlprnft: I'm having difficulties with the windows build
00:15 <PinkTomato> on aabeta
00:16 <PinkTomato> whatever I say prints as ___
00:19 <PinkTomato> it also crashes, a lot
00:20 <Lucifer> wrtlprnft: did you see F! Infamous's post trying to build the trunk in windows?
00:24 <PinkTomato> see http://dessert.ath.cx/underscored_arma.png for reference
00:30 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r647 Adding INVALID_COMMAND to ladderlog || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r750 Fixed some shell scripting errors and removed -P option from...
00:32 <smoothice> @more
00:32 <teabot> smoothice: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more.  To do so, call this command with that person's nick.
00:33 <PinkTomato> @more armacommits
00:33 <teabot> PinkTomato: Error: I haven't seen armacommits.
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00:36 <smoothice> @more RSS
00:36 <teabot> smoothice: Error: I haven't seen RSS.
00:36 <smoothice> @seen teabot
00:42 <teabot> armablah: The Geiger Counter « Play Fortress <http://playfortress.wordpress.com/2009/01/04/the-geiger-counter/>
00:45 <Corn> why did that link playfortress
00:46 <PinkTomato> I assume armablah is an RSS feed, which feeds of Play Fortress RSS too
00:47 <Corn> ah
01:01 <ct|kyle> i did not know teabot announced Ct+sty comments
01:02 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/CodeRed/polygon/regular/Race-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by CodeRed
01:12 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/CodeRed/polygon/regular/new-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by CodeRed
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02:14  * ct|kyle cuddles BabyBug
02:14  * BabyBug cuddles ct|kyle 
02:15  * Lucifer throws a rope around the two cuddling freaks so they can't stop
02:15 <BabyBug> wooo soft bondage \o/
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02:30 <GodTodd> man...even #armagetron is fulla pr0n now.
02:31 <Lucifer> #impregnate GodTodd
02:31  * armabot fertilizes GodTodd
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02:44 <Corn> last i heard lucifer has a fetish for pregnant people
03:07 -!- smoothice [n=smoothic@97-122-103-210.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #armagetron
03:07 <smoothice> Corn: ...
03:08 <Corn> smoothice: ...
03:08 <Corn> Theres only enough room in this irc for 1 of us.
03:09 <smoothice> awwww
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03:10 <Corn> :D
03:11 <Corn> i guess sageloard took initiative
03:20 <GodTodd> #impregnate Lucifer with luke-jr's sperm.
03:20  * armabot fertilizes Lucifer with luke-jr's sperm.
03:22 <Corn>  #armagetron is not a sperm bank mine is not for sale.
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03:51 <Flex> Hehe, my master plan, when those mongorians come next time, I pour this shweet shour por' on their head... shwee shour por' so hot and sticky they stick'a right into the wall and go "ooh ooh"
04:00 <smoothice> #list Alias
04:00 <@armabot> smoothice: monologue, roulette, #lags, #noob, #ratchet, /me, 42, aawiki, action, add, afl, aka, armabot, armaconfig, armaservers, armasettings, arrow, as, babel, ball, bigbrother, bigos, bing, botsnack, bounce, brb, bug, bye, bzr, c, cafe, cat, cfg, cfg2, chainfight, chatlog, check, cheers, cinf, cink, commands, cookie, corn, crashme, crazylate, ctos, ctwf, dance, date, davestupidwebsite"rss, (5 more messages)
04:00 <smoothice> #more
04:00 <@armabot> smoothice: ddl, del, devhelp, dicht, die, die, digg, digitx, ding, disclaimer, dns, do, dofinger, dog, dong, donkey, doping, dorka, eds, eliza, emmy, epicfail, eroulette, f, fail, fart, farton, fastfood, fetch2, fight, finc, fink, flashyy, flerxytyme, fofo, fortune, freeciv, fuck!, g, gcalc, gfight, go, godtodd, going, goodbye, goodnight, grep, grep2, hd, hack, hell, hello, hey, hoop, hungary, (4 more messages)
04:00 <smoothice> #ball
04:00 <@armabot> smoothice: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “ball pit” at the moment, sorry.
04:00 <smoothice> #hoop
04:00 <@armabot> smoothice: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “hoop” at the moment, sorry.
04:01 <smoothice> #more
04:01 <@armabot> smoothice: hyphy, impregnate, insight, ircstats, jesus, joke, kill, killsomeone, kinc, kinf, king, kyle, kyo, laddle10, lags, lastseen, lastseenf, lastseen flexsmum, legit, lies, lock, log, log, logs, ls, lukejrworks, m, mail, makeop, man, mcalc, mfaq, ming, monologue, morning, move, mrbougo, murder, myip, n00b, nano, new, night, no, noob, null, obsolete, onlineplayers, onlineservers, pacman, (3 more messages)
04:01 <smoothice> #more
04:01 <@armabot> smoothice: path, path2, peek, phail, pingme, pingy, piong, plzpwn, poing, pong, praise, ptfort, pwn, q, quot, r, raaaaaaape, randomnick, rape, ratchet, ratchet--, rating, rating2, rating2test, real, realchatlogs, remove, removeop, res, resources, ring, rou, roulette, roulette, roulete, roulotte, rules, r‭oulette, say, sd, sd v spacelab, send, serv, serverdetails, serverinfo, servers, (2 more messages)
04:01 <smoothice> #sd
04:01 <@armabot> smoothice: Usage: #serverdetails [-v] {name}
04:01 <smoothice> #help sd
04:01 <@armabot> smoothice: (sd <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/serverdetails.php?name=@1+@2+@3+@4+@5+@6+@7+@8+@9".
04:02 <smoothice> #sd NEALS
04:02 <@armabot> smoothice: NEALS TEST SERVER: Players (1/10): canada
04:02 <smoothice> #sd racing ||
04:02 <@armabot> smoothice: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “racing ||” at the moment, sorry.
04:02 <smoothice> #sd Sumo
04:02 <@armabot> smoothice: Wild West  =Sumo=: Players (11/14): .:] JJBean, .dBd|Pathetique, AlEs§a, C$ $oup, CtxWoned, halcyon, Swift, wHaTuP, zac, ~*OblivionIk*~, ~*Sasha*~
04:07 <smoothice> #sd Delicious Desserts
04:07 <@armabot> smoothice: {Delicious Desserts} High Rubber: Players (7/10): !CB! XZombie, a$!D, Dogs Unleashed, I<3 Katrina, RODSUR7, waka CONGETO, {MR}VOLCANO
04:08 <smoothice> #armaservers
04:08 <@armabot> smoothice: This data is 32 seconds old; -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (12/12), Wild West  =Sumo= (10/14), {Delicious Desserts} High Rubber (7/10), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (7/10), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (7/12), {Delicious Desserts} Racing II (5/14), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (3/12), -= QuAnTuM PeRfoRmAnCe =- [Loose DF] [Hosted by Reaper] (3/16), (1 more message)
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04:09 <Concord> @lastseen ghableska
04:09 <teabot> Concord: timed out
04:09 <Concord> @lastseen rain
04:09 <teabot> Concord: .g Rain has last been seen on  Wild West  =Sumo= 3 hours 31 minutes ago.
04:09 <Concord> pff
04:09 <Concord> @lastseen 2020
04:09 <Concord> @lastseen 2o2o
04:09 <teabot> Concord: timed out
04:10 <smoothice> #seen 2020
04:10 <@armabot> smoothice: I have not seen 2020.
04:10 <teabot> Concord: timed out
04:10 <smoothice> #seen 2o2o
04:10 <@armabot> smoothice: I have not seen 2o2o.
04:10 <Concord> #seen rain
04:10 <@armabot> Concord: rain was last seen in #armagetron 1 year, 39 weeks, 4 days, 15 hours, 41 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <rain> ty yojimbo
04:10 <smoothice> #seen PinkTomato
04:10 <Concord> #seen ghableska
04:10 <@armabot> smoothice: PinkTomato was last seen in #armagetron 3 hours, 23 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <PinkTomato> I assume armablah is an RSS feed, which feeds of Play Fortress RSS too
04:10 <@armabot> Concord: ghableska was last seen in #armagetron 28 weeks, 6 days, 11 hours, 44 minutes, and 51 seconds ago: <ghableska> oh hi monkey
04:10 <Concord> #seen 2020
04:10 <@armabot> Concord: I have not seen 2020.
04:11 <smoothice> #seen ljrbot
04:11 <@armabot> smoothice: ljrbot was last seen in #armagetron 1 day, 7 hours, 29 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: <ljrbot> smoothice: Error: "dns" is not a valid command.
04:14 <Corn> #seen one
04:14 <@armabot> Corn: I have not seen one.
04:14 <Corn> one = 2020
04:19 <Corn> "armabot> smoothice: hyphy" say whut
04:19 <Corn> hyphy plays lol
04:20 <smoothice> armabot > smoothice: ???
04:20 <smoothice> armabot: say hi corn
04:20 <@armabot> hi corn
04:20 <smoothice> #say wassup?
04:21 <@armabot> wassup?
04:21 <smoothice> #say $host
04:21 <@armabot> unaffiliated/smoothice
04:22 <smoothice> #say now
04:22 <smoothice> #say today
04:22 <@armabot> now
04:22 <@armabot> today
04:22 <smoothice> #say $now
04:22 <@armabot> Mon Jan  5 04:22:12 2009
04:22 <smoothice> #say $today
04:22 <@armabot> 05 Jan 2009
04:24 <smoothice> Lucifer: I found a bug in latest 0.2.8 alpha
04:24 <Corn> i have a 3 minute lag so its hard to talk to me... my messages take 3 minutes to get to you as me and babybug found out the hard way
04:25 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/slyshot/quimica-3.aamap.xml: Resource by slyshot
04:28 <Corn>  "<smoothice>: Lucifer: I found a bug in latest 0.2.8 alpha" whut
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04:45 <smoothice> Corn: I just reported a bug in the 0.2.8 branch to Launchpad
04:48 <smoothice> #later tell Corn I just reported a bug in the 0.2.8 branch to Launchpad
04:48 <@armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
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04:54 <@armabot> lpbugs: [313943] login menu username field is always lowercase
05:05 <luke-jr> sounds like a feature:
05:06 <luke-jr> "Armagetron now annoys people with screwed up name cases!'
05:07 <ct|kyle> it is because it uses log name not real name
05:07 <luke-jr> :þ
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05:08 <luke-jr> pushing to -shared
05:08 <luke-jr> err
05:08 <luke-jr> wrong chan
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06:39 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r648 Adding ADMIN_COMMAND to LadderLog
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07:50 <Concord> hhi
07:50 <Concord> late night?
07:50 <Concord> early morning?
07:57 <epsy> hi
07:57 <epsy> just morning
07:57 <Concord> 2:00 am here
08:00 <epsy> 8:00
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11:06 <z-man> #m epsy Forgot to tell you: I'm on a SVN checkout.
11:06 <@armabot> z-man: The operation succeeded.
11:07  * z-man doesn't want to drive the poor guy completely mad :)
11:28 <teabot> armablah: Fortress vs. Sumo « Play Fortress <http://playfortress.wordpress.com/2008/12/06/fortress-vs-sumo/> || Tron for Peace <http://www.gregniemeyer.com/?p=45> || The Innovation Lover » GNU/Linux gamers, Cheers ! <http://www.sarathlakshman.info/2007/12/24/gnulinux-gamers-cheers/>
11:31 <teabot> armablah: Armagetron Advanced <http://www.find-freebies.org/armagetron-advanced/> || Armagetron <http://free.macgames.jp/4230/armagetron/> || Viewing Pleasure <http://the-desert-is-coming.blogspot.com/2008/12/viewing-pleasure.html>
11:36 -!- emmy_arma [n=peiaeman@pc238035.static.is.airbites.ro] has joined #armagetron
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11:46 <wrtlprnft> PinkTomato: interesting… mine works ok
11:46 <wrtlprnft> *it works ok on my system, that's what i wanted to say
11:46 <PinkTomato> ah, my windows is a mess of an intall anyway
11:47 <PinkTomato> the only thing at the moment that I can think of that might cause it is my non-unicode is set to Japanese.
11:47 <PinkTomato> That usually causes ?? and all sorts
11:48 <wrtlprnft> that might be a reason
11:49 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer: there's a cross-compiling thread, but i built it directly from windows
11:49 <PinkTomato> I'll look in it at somepoint, let you know if I find anything :)
11:52 <wrtlprnft> or try to build it yourself, it's not all that hard
11:52 <wrtlprnft> install three programs, copy and paste the svn path, change one text file, all the rest is point&click :-)
11:53 <wrtlprnft> when the project files are up to date, anyways, but they should be right now
11:53 <Lucifer> #ping
11:53 <@armabot> pong
11:54 <PinkTomato> wrtlprnft: whenever i have attempted windows build, something always goes wrong ;), but sounds like compiling trunk has gotten much easier recently
11:54 <Lucifer> luke-jr: that is a feature, actually, and it's been in 0.2.8 since the first release :)
11:55 <wrtlprnft> download a recent build of codeblocks and tortoisesvn
11:55 <wrtlprnft> download python 2.6.x
11:55 <wrtlprnft> install all that crap
11:56 <wrtlprnft> right click on the background of some folder, whereever you want to have your install, preferably without spaces in it
11:56 <wrtlprnft> oh, download the codeblocks build with mingw
11:57 <wrtlprnft> anyways, do SVN checkout after right clicking
11:57 <PinkTomato> Right, trying now, and I'll check the python ver, back soon :)
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12:01 <wrtlprnft> copy and paste https://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad
12:03 <PinkTomato> I have python 2.5, installing 2.6
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12:09 <wrtlprnft> 2.5 would have been sufficient
12:09 <wrtlprnft> as long as it's not 3.x
12:10 <PinkTomato> oh :), do I need winlibs?
12:10 <wrtlprnft> it's included in svn
12:10 <PinkTomato> is the README in the win32 folder in date?
12:12 <wrtlprnft> yeah, it's fine
12:19 <PinkTomato> do I need to ./configure? Compile error regarding 'bool isblank(int)'
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12:21 <wrtlprnft> err, comment out that line
12:21 <wrtlprnft> there is no configure script
12:22 <PinkTomato> tTrueVersion.h No such file or Directory
12:36 <wrtlprnft> heh, great, epsy broke it
12:37 <PinkTomato> woops
12:37 <PinkTomato> should I revert?
12:37 <wrtlprnft> if you feel like it, revert to r8697
12:39 <PinkTomato> compiling :)
12:42 <Lucifer> Yeah, epsy broke it, heh
12:42 <Lucifer> you should get the 0.3.1 branch from bzr
12:43 <Lucifer> #alias add 0.3.1 echo bzr branch lp:~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.3.1
12:43 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
12:43 <Lucifer> #0.3.1
12:43 <@armabot> bzr branch lp:~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.3.1
12:44 <PinkTomato> I'ld have to find a windows bzr program ;)
12:44 <z-man> let's gangrape epsy when he comes back :)
12:45 <PinkTomato> still the same behaviour in my just compiled r8697
12:46 <PinkTomato> Thanks wrtlprnft though :), the compile was rather easy after all :D
12:47 <wrtlprnft> yw
12:49 <Lucifer> bzr is available for windows, isn't it?  You just need python for it, after all....
12:49 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: it is :), but its not python by the looks of things
12:50 <Lucifer> dave@fiona:~$ cat /usr/bin/bzr
12:50 <Lucifer> #!/usr/bin/python
12:50 <Lucifer> # Copyright (C) 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008 Canonical Ltd
12:50 <Lucifer> #
12:50 <PinkTomato> I mean the win version ;)
12:51 <z-man> Another new policy : NO FANCY REFORMATS WHILE THERE'S ACTIVE MERGES.
12:51 <wrtlprnft> hehe
12:51 <z-man> AUTHORS has entered merge hell.
12:51 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr, eh?
12:51 <z-man> YES
12:51 <wrtlprnft> i was wondering about that when i read the commit message…
12:52 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: it says its stand alone, i didn't think a python application could be stand alone?
12:52 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: py2exe
12:52 <PinkTomato> oh I see :)
12:52 <Lucifer> it basically bundles a python interpreter with the script to make it a standalone app
12:52 <Lucifer> but it's still python :)
12:52 <PinkTomato> hehe :)
12:54 <Lucifer> #fetch http://www.davefancella.com
12:54 <@armabot> Lucifer: '<?xml version="1.0"\n?>\n<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">\n<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">\n<head>\n<title>Dave Fancella</title>\n<meta name="generator" content="http://txt2tags.sf.net" />\n<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="style/main.css" />\n<link rel="stylesheet" (5 more messages)
12:54 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: win32 Readme.txt is unreadable in windows
12:54 <PinkTomato> Unix Line Breaks and stupid notepad
12:54 <PinkTomato> edit.com could read unix line breaks....
12:54 <wrtlprnft> use wordpad
12:54 <Lucifer> well, I'm working in 0.3.1 branch now, so even if I fix it, you won't see it ;)
12:55 <wrtlprnft> for some reason it can do unix line breaks
12:55 <Lucifer> yeah, wordpad is weird that way
12:55 <wrtlprnft> it's gonna be merged, right?
12:55 <Lucifer> also, you might consider programmer's notepad
12:55 <Lucifer> or the one that's on my thumb drive
12:55  * Lucifer tries to remember which one it is
12:55 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: I usually use notepad++
12:56 <Lucifer> ah, that's what's on my thumb drive
12:56 <PinkTomato> I have to remeber right click open with notepad++ though, I should make it default actually
12:56 <Lucifer> courtesy of portableapps.com
12:56 <Lucifer> no, really, we should fix the line endings in that file
12:56 <PinkTomato> ;), only thing is that version defaults without a menubar and i can't find anything in it :)
12:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8744 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (8 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
12:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 8719 to 8743:
12:57 <@armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
12:57 <@armabot> armagetronad:  r8742 | bazaarmagetron | 2009-01-04 23:13:49 +0100 (Sun, 04 Jan 2009) | 2 lines
12:57 <@armabot> armagetronad:  Manuel Moos: Added check for silly GCC flag to avoid creation of file named "ption".
12:57 <@armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
12:57 <@armabot> armagetronad:  r8740 | bazaarmagetron | 2009-01-04 22:47:41 +0100 (Sun, 04 Jan 2009) | 2 lines
12:58 <wrtlprnft> is that a real gcc flag?
12:58 <z-man> No, of course not.
12:58 <Lucifer> #0.3.1
12:58 <@armabot> bzr branch lp:~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.3.1
12:59 <Lucifer> hmmm, is armabot going to pick up 0.3.1 commit messages?
12:59 <z-man> No, armabot only cares about svn.
13:00 <Lucifer> ah, so if we don't mirror 0.3.1's branch to svn, armabot won't get the commit messages
13:00 <wrtlprnft> cia won't get them
13:00 <wrtlprnft> we could use the rss plugin
13:00 <Lucifer> will it monitor for changes, or would we have to ask it for changes?
13:01 <Lucifer> #help rss
13:01 <@armabot> Lucifer: (rss <url> [<number of headlines>]) -- Gets the title components of the given RSS feed. If <number of headlines> is given, return only that many headlines.
13:01 <Lucifer> #list rss
13:01 <@armabot> Lucifer: add, announce, armawiki, ftsfeedback, info, lpbugs, reddit, remove, and rss
13:01 <wrtlprnft> there's an autoreport feature, too
13:01 <wrtlprnft> #help rss add
13:01 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: (rss add <name> <url>) -- Adds a command to this plugin that will look up the RSS feed at the given URL.
13:01 <wrtlprnft> #rss http://feeds.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.3.1/branch.atom
13:01 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: Revision 748 || Revision 747 || Revision 746 || Revision 745 || Revision 744 || Revision 743 || Revision 742 || Revision 741 || Revision 740 || Revision 739 || Revision 738 || Revision 737 || Revision 736 || Revision 735 || Revision 734 || Revision 733 || Revision 732 || Revision 731 || Revision 730 || Revision 729 || Revision 728 || Revision 727 || Revision 726 || Revision 725 || (1 more message)
13:02 <wrtlprnft> ah, that was the problem
13:02 <Lucifer> heh, it's borderline useless
13:02 <PinkTomato> its more almost useful
13:03 <PinkTomato> handy to know when a new revision is out
13:03 <Lucifer> yeah, but we want to see the log entry that goes with the revision
13:03 <PinkTomato> the information is in the RSS though?
13:04 <wrtlprnft> yeah
13:04 <wrtlprnft> but as the content, not the title
13:04 <PinkTomato> ah, isn't that what it should be?
13:05 <wrtlprnft> well, cia rss messages contain a short version of the changelog
13:05  * Lucifer doesn't believe there's no way to configure the rss plugin to show part of the content too
13:05 <Lucifer> #list rss
13:05 <@armabot> Lucifer: add, announce, armawiki, ftsfeedback, info, lpbugs, reddit, remove, and rss
13:06 <wrtlprnft> one could proxy the rss feed and change it on the way
13:06 <Lucifer> #help config
13:06 <@armabot> Lucifer: (config <name> [<value>]) -- If <value> is given, sets the value of <name> to <value>. Otherwise, returns the current value of <name>. You may omit the leading "supybot." in the name if you so choose.
13:06 <Lucifer> #list config
13:06 <@armabot> Lucifer: channel, config, default, export, help, list, reload, and search
13:06 <Lucifer> #config search rss
13:06 <@armabot> Lucifer: supybot.plugins.Alias.aliases.davestupidwebsite"rss, supybot.plugins.Alias.aliases.davestupidwebsite"rss.locked, supybot.plugins.RSS, supybot.plugins.RSS.public, supybot.plugins.RSS.bold, supybot.plugins.RSS.headlineSeparator, supybot.plugins.RSS.announcementPrefix, supybot.plugins.RSS.announce, supybot.plugins.RSS.announce.showLinks, supybot.plugins.RSS.waitPeriod, (1 more message)
13:06 <Lucifer> #more
13:06 <@armabot> Lucifer: supybot.plugins.RSS.feeds, supybot.plugins.RSS.feeds.reddit, supybot.plugins.RSS.feeds.ftsfeedback, supybot.plugins.RSS.feeds.lpbugs, supybot.plugins.RSS.feeds.armawiki, and supybot.plugins.RSS.showLinks
13:06 <PinkTomato> couldn't you add it to the  plugin?
13:06 <Lucifer> ok, maybe there isn't a way to do it, heh
13:07 <wrtlprnft> it's further complicated that the content of those messages contains html
13:07 <Lucifer> sure, it shouldn't be that hard to add it to the plugin, but then it has to be installed, and we'd have to maintain our own version, etc
13:08 <Lucifer> wrtlprnft is right, it's probably easier to just throw together a little php script to do the transformation
13:08 <PinkTomato> oh yeah, :). Ah, of course
13:08 <wrtlprnft> hmm… let's see…
13:09 <wrtlprnft> probably python… minidom rocks
13:09 <Lucifer> minidom rocks until you want it to preserve whitespace :)
13:10 <Lucifer> well, it looks like buildbot can still work with the bzr changeover, but it'd have to monitor svn and then checkout from bzr
13:10  * Lucifer supposes it's not that big a deal to just let buildbot work with svn completely, only it won't pick up the 0.3.1 release branch, which means it won't pick up 0.3.2 or 0.3.3 etc.
13:11 <wrtlprnft> alternatively, can one tell launchpad to send commit messages to cia?
13:11 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: 0.3.1 compiles on windows, has no 404 resource. Still has __ bug that no one else can reproduce ;).
13:12 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: I think the 404 problem is related to the dist built, it doesn't happen to a build from a checkout
13:12 <Lucifer> maybe I should actually investigate that instead of playing with buildbot
13:12 <Lucifer> https://launchpad.net/bzr-cia
13:13  * PinkTomato wondered why you were talking about the CIA
13:13 <Lucifer> it kindof looks like we'd all have to install that plugin for it to work
13:17 <wrtlprnft> yeah…
13:17 <Lucifer> wait, what if z-man installed it on the bzr-svn bot?
13:17 <Lucifer> er, nvm, I guess that gets us nowhere anyway, heh
13:18 <Lucifer> hey, if I setup my computer to work as a network bridge, do i need to use a crossover cable to plug a device into my ethernet card?
13:24 <Lucifer> hmmm, I want to make a bzr branch for the buildbot config files
13:24  * Lucifer tries to remember where they are in svn
13:26 <Lucifer> aha, it's /support/buildbot
13:27 <Lucifer> z-man: what do I have to do to take a directory out of the svn repo, /support/buildbot, and make a bzr branch that syncs with svn?
13:27 <z-man> you need to move it to tools/buildbot/trunk
13:27 <Lucifer> svn mv?
13:28 <z-man> yep
13:28 <Lucifer> bzr-svn will pick it up automatically then?
13:28 <z-man> no, I need to add the path to a config file.
13:29 <Lucifer> and I assume I have to create a branch named tools-buildbot-trunk to go with it and put it on launchpad?
13:29 <z-man> no, that'll happen automagically.
13:29 <Lucifer> ok, I'll do that
13:29 <Lucifer> if I can remember how to use svn :)
13:31 <Lucifer> grr, I forgot my sourceforge subversion password
13:32 <z-man> shall I do it?
13:35 <@armabot> armagetronad: davidfancella * r8745 /tools/buildbot/:
13:36 <Lucifer> I'm getting there, heh
13:37 <Lucifer> turned out my sourceforge password had expired, that was the problem
13:37 <@armabot> armagetronad: davidfancella * r8746 / (support/buildbot/ tools/buildbot/trunk/): Moving buildbot config files so we can have a bzr branch for them.
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13:38 <Lucifer> ok, it's ready now :)
13:49 <teabot> armacommits: [0.3.1] r748 Hopefully converted line endings to DOS line endings || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r751 Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 8719 to 8743:...
13:49 <PinkTomato> \o/
14:00 <Lucifer> er, how does teabot pick up the 0.3.1 branch?
14:01 <PinkTomato> was that not the plan?
14:01 <PinkTomato> oh wait, you wanted armabot?
14:02 <Lucifer> well, yeah, but I'm wondering why teabot can do it and not armabot
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14:05 <Lucifer> I don't get a 404 error on my installed autopackage
14:06 <Lucifer> aha, it fails on the .dtd download
14:07 <PinkTomato> I believe that is usually a included file?
14:08 <wrtlprnft> #rss http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/python/rss.py
14:08 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: 0.3.1 dave@davefancella.com r748: Hopefully converted line endings to DOS line endings || 0.3.1 z-man r747: Removed one roadblock in "make distcheck", which also broke the source distribution: mac files got moved and dist-hook-scm wasn't updated. || 0.3.1 dave@davefancella.com r746: Miscellaneous fixes to get it building again, and to get an autopackage to build out of it. || 0.3.1 (6 more messages)
14:09 <wrtlprnft> semi-useful
14:09 <wrtlprnft> #config search RSS
14:09 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: supybot.plugins.Alias.aliases.davestupidwebsite"rss, supybot.plugins.Alias.aliases.davestupidwebsite"rss.locked, supybot.plugins.RSS, supybot.plugins.RSS.public, supybot.plugins.RSS.bold, supybot.plugins.RSS.headlineSeparator, supybot.plugins.RSS.announcementPrefix, supybot.plugins.RSS.announce, supybot.plugins.RSS.announce.showLinks, supybot.plugins.RSS.waitPeriod, (1 more message)
14:09 <wrtlprnft> #rss add 0.3.1 http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/python/rss.py
14:09 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
14:09 <z-man> Lucifer: https://code.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/tools-buildbot-trunk-work
14:09 <wrtlprnft> #config supybot.plugins.RSS.announce
14:09 <Lucifer> thanks
14:09 <@armabot> wrtlprnft:
14:10 <wrtlprnft> #help rss annpunce
14:10 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: There is no command "rss annpunce".
14:10 <wrtlprnft> #help rss announce
14:10 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: (rss announce [<channel>] [--remove] [<name|url> ...]) -- Adds the list of <name|url> to the current list of announced feeds in the channel given. Valid feeds include the names of registered feeds as well as URLs for a RSS feeds. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself. If no arguments are specified, replies with the current list of feeds to (1 more message)
14:10 <wrtlprnft> #rss announce #armagetron 0.3.1
14:10 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
14:11 <Lucifer> .list rss
14:11 <wrtlprnft> now someone make a commit
14:11 <PinkTomato> makedist is unix spaces i think too
14:11 <PinkTomato> if you need ideas ;)
14:11 <Lucifer> heh, if you've got a suggestion on how to fix the problem where resource.dtd isn't included in the distribution, I can fix it and commit it :)
14:11 <wrtlprnft> #config supybot.plugins.RSS.waitPeriod
14:11 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: 600
14:12 <wrtlprnft> hmm
14:12 <wrtlprnft> 5 minutes on average till the message is shown…
14:12 <wrtlprnft> #config supybot.plugins.RSS.waitPeriod 300
14:12 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
14:12 <wrtlprnft> make that 2.5
14:13 <Lucifer> ok, I just committed PinkTomato (hi there!) 's requested fix
14:14 <PinkTomato> ty :)
14:17 <wrtlprnft> he didn't do it for you, just for me!
14:17 <wrtlprnft> ty Lucifer 
14:17 <PinkTomato> hehe :)
14:17 <Lucifer> you're both welcome :)
14:19 <wrtlprnft> don't disappoint me armabot 
14:20 <wrtlprnft> INFO 2009-01-05T14:19:05 Checking for announcements at <http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/python/rss.py>
14:20 <wrtlprnft> err, that commit isn't in the rss feed
14:20 <Lucifer> er, what?
14:21 <Lucifer> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.3.1/revision/749
14:21 <Lucifer> er, yeah it is
14:21 <wrtlprnft> #rss http://feeds.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.3.1/branch.atom
14:22 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: Revision 749 || Revision 748 || Revision 747 || Revision 746 || Revision 745 || Revision 744 || Revision 743 || Revision 742 || Revision 741 || Revision 740 || Revision 739 || Revision 738 || Revision 737 || Revision 736 || Revision 735 || Revision 734 || Revision 733 || Revision 732 || Revision 731 || Revision 730 || Revision 729 || Revision 728 || Revision 727 || Revision 726 || (1 more message)
14:22 <PinkTomato> It changed after 20 minutes past I think
14:22 <wrtlprnft> wtf
14:22 <wrtlprnft> #0.3.1
14:22 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: The command "0.3.1" is available in the Alias and RSS plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "0.3.1".
14:22 <wrtlprnft> #rss 0.3.1
14:22 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: 0.3.1 dave@davefancella.com r748: Hopefully converted line endings to DOS line endings || 0.3.1 z-man r747: Removed one roadblock in "make distcheck", which also broke the source distribution: mac files got moved and dist-hook-scm wasn't updated. || 0.3.1 dave@davefancella.com r746: Miscellaneous fixes to get it building again, and to get an autopackage to build out of it. || 0.3.1 (6 more messages)
14:22 <wrtlprnft> #rss 0.3.1?blah
14:22 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: '0.3.1?blah' is not a valid url.
14:22 <PinkTomato> is that the cached version?
14:22 <wrtlprnft> #rss http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/python/rss.py?123
14:23 <Lucifer> I see it in my web browser when I go to your rss script
14:23 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: 0.3.1 dave@davefancella.com r749: Hopefully fixed line endings in this file too || 0.3.1 dave@davefancella.com r748: Hopefully converted line endings to DOS line endings || 0.3.1 z-man r747: Removed one roadblock in "make distcheck", which also broke the source distribution: mac files got moved and dist-hook-scm wasn't updated. || 0.3.1 dave@davefancella.com r746: Miscellaneous fixes to (6 more messages)
14:23 <PinkTomato> I didn't see it at first
14:23 <Lucifer> #rss http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/python/rss.py
14:23 <@armabot> Lucifer: 0.3.1 dave@davefancella.com r748: Hopefully converted line endings to DOS line endings || 0.3.1 z-man r747: Removed one roadblock in "make distcheck", which also broke the source distribution: mac files got moved and dist-hook-scm wasn't updated. || 0.3.1 dave@davefancella.com r746: Miscellaneous fixes to get it building again, and to get an autopackage to build out of it. || 0.3.1 Daniel (6 more messages)
14:23 <PinkTomato> but it appeared shortly after armabot was supposed to go off  I think,
14:23 <PinkTomato> unless that was a local cached copy
14:23 <Lucifer> maybe there's a caching thing going on
14:24 <wrtlprnft> it's supposed to consider cached rss feeds to be outdated after 5 mins
14:24 <@armabot> 0.3.1: 0.3.1 dave@davefancella.com r749: Hopefully fixed line endings in this file too
14:24 <PinkTomato> that works then ?
14:24 <wrtlprnft> just took some time
14:25 <wrtlprnft> just a bit redundant it seems
14:25 <wrtlprnft> the next one should be without the extra 0.3.1
14:25 <PinkTomato> from teabot?
14:25 <wrtlprnft> let's see how well large commit messages are handled
14:26 <wrtlprnft> CIA shortens them quite well
14:26 <wrtlprnft> plus it shows which files have changed, i don't even have that info
14:29 <@armabot> 0.3.1: dave@davefancella.com r749: Hopefully fixed line endings in this file too || dave@davefancella.com r748: Hopefully converted line endings to DOS line endings || z-man r747: Removed one roadblock in "make distcheck", which also broke the source distribution: mac files got moved and dist-hook-scm wasn't updated. || dave@davefancella.com r746: Miscellaneous fixes to get it building again, and to get an autopackage to build out 
14:35 <Lucifer> hmmm, so it's copying resource.dtd, but it's not renaming it
14:36 <Lucifer> er, nvm, it's doing that
14:38 <Lucifer> aha!  figured it out, I think
14:42 <Lucifer> @list rss
14:42 <teabot> Lucifer: add, announce, arma0.2.8, armaannounce, armablah, armabugs, armacommits, armaevents, armatrunk, info, nbcommits, nbcommitsandtickets, nbtickets, neverforum, remove, rss, tstnews, vectronbeta2, vectroncommits, xclanaarepo, xclansitecommits, zthraaannounce, zthraabugs, and zthraacommits
14:42 <Lucifer> #list armacommits
14:42 <@armabot> Lucifer: Error: 'armacommits' is not a valid plugin.
14:42 <Lucifer> #help armacommits
14:42 <@armabot> Lucifer: Error: There is no command "armacommits".
14:43 <Lucifer> duh
14:43 <Lucifer> @help armacommits
14:43 <teabot> Lucifer: (armacommits [<number of headlines>]) -- Reports the titles for armacommits at the RSS feed <http://feeds.launchpad.net/armagetronad/revisions.atom>. If <number of headlines> is given, returns only that many headlines. RSS feeds are only looked up every supybot.plugins.RSS.waitPeriod seconds, which defaults to 1800 (30 minutes) since that's what most websites prefer.
14:44 <Lucifer> wrtlprnft: there's how teabot gets it
14:44 <Lucifer> who owns teabot, anyway?
14:44 <PinkTomato> I thought it was epsy, but I could be wrong
14:45 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: I think I found the 404 problem and fixed it, will be testing a new autopackage shortly
14:45 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: OK, I'll be ready to test when done :)
14:46 <Lucifer> heh, have to build the package first, since it's clearly a packaging problem (problem doesn't happen in a regular sandbox build)
14:47 <PinkTomato> ah, so its that make dist thing that takes forever?
14:47 <Lucifer> no, different thing
14:47 <Lucifer> the make dist thing that takes forever is make distcheck, and it just checks the source tarball
14:47 <PinkTomato> oh right :)
14:47 <Lucifer> this is, if you ever look at tools-build-trunk, that's where our packaging automation stuff is
14:48  * Lucifer wonders if rpmtools are available for ubuntu
14:48  * Lucifer wonders if we should drop rpm as our other generic linux build and switch to .deb
14:48 <PinkTomato> Do you mean something like alien?
14:48 <Lucifer> no
14:48 <Lucifer> something to build rpms
14:48 <PinkTomato> oh the other way round :)
14:49 <PinkTomato> isn't .deb more common now anyway?
14:49 <teabot> armacommits: [0.3.1] r749 Hopefully fixed line endings in this file too || [tools-buildbot-trunk-work] r1 Moving buildbot config files so we can have a bzr branch for...
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14:55 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: that's why I was thinking we might consider switching out .rpm for .deb
14:55 <Lucifer> at the time z-man used .rpm for generic linux building (which predates the armagetron advanced fork, even), .rpm was ubiquitous
14:56 <Lucifer> we switched to autopackage for generic linux building for 0.2.8, but keep building generic rpms because we have the capability
14:56 <Lucifer> or rather, z-man has the capability (or had, he was building in gentoo back then, and I think he finally switched to kubuntu, but we haven't released since before then)
14:56 <Lucifer> so we may not have the capability anymore
14:56  * Lucifer hopes to find out soon ;)
14:57 <teabot> armablah: Registration is now open « Blog Archive « TST » Team Sumo Tournament <http://tst.armagetron.co.uk/news/registration-is-now-open/>
14:59 <PinkTomato> :)
15:02 <Lucifer> wrtlprnft: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18350&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15  <--- know anything about this?
15:02 <Lucifer> I saw a branch for it, I think
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15:14 <Lucifer> aha, it didn't work because it used an old tarball, heh
15:14 <Lucifer> duh
15:20 <Lucifer> z-man: have you tried to build an rpm since you left gentoo?
15:26 <Lucifer> #0.3.1
15:26 <@armabot> Lucifer: Error: The command "0.3.1" is available in the Alias and RSS plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "0.3.1".
15:26 <Lucifer> #alias 0.3.1
15:26 <@armabot> bzr branch lp:~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.3.1
15:27 <Lucifer> #alias remove 0.3.1
15:27 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
15:27 <Lucifer> #alias add bzr0.3.1 echo bzr branch lp:~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.3.1
15:27 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
15:30 <K-Yo> #help bzr
15:30 <@armabot> K-Yo: (bzr <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo bzr co lp:armagetronad (for trunk) bzr co lp:armagetronad/0.2.8 (for 0.2.8) (bzr >= 1.4)".
15:39 <Lucifer> #alias add bzr echo bzr co lp:armagetronad (for trunk) bzr co lp:armagetronad/0.2.8 (for 0.2.8) [bar0.3.1] (bzr >= 1.4)
15:39 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
15:39 <Lucifer> #bzr
15:39 <@armabot> bzr co lp:armagetronad (for trunk) bzr co lp:armagetronad/0.2.8 (for 0.2.8) [bar0.3.1] (bzr >= 1.4)
15:39 <Lucifer> #alias add bzr echo bzr co lp:armagetronad (for trunk) bzr co lp:armagetronad/0.2.8 (for 0.2.8) [bzr0.3.1] (bzr >= 1.4)
15:40 <@armabot> The operation succeeded.
15:40 <Lucifer> #bzr
15:40 <@armabot> bzr co lp:armagetronad (for trunk) bzr co lp:armagetronad/0.2.8 (for 0.2.8) bzr branch lp:~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.3.1 (bzr >= 1.4)
15:40 <Lucifer> oh good, that takes care of that
15:40 <Lucifer> camview has lots of conflicts, and I'm nto going to resolve them
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15:52 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/CodeRed/Race/WindingRace-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by CodeRed
16:10 <PinkTomato> damn it, screwed up my FTGL
16:10 <Lucifer> don't do that
16:10 <PinkTomato> hehe
16:10 <Lucifer> what did you do?
16:10 <PinkTomato> I installed the new one, see what BabyBug was on about
16:10 <PinkTomato> forgot about it
16:10 <Lucifer> now arma segfaults for you too?
16:11 <PinkTomato> says it can't find ftgl-o
16:11 <PinkTomato> or something
16:11 <PinkTomato> so I installed the ubuntu copy, and now it won't compile either
16:11 <BabyBug> Lucifer, It won't compile now. configure makes sure you're not running the version of FTGL that wont segfault
16:11 <BabyBug> will segfault*
16:12 <Lucifer> really?  in the trunk?
16:12  * Lucifer didn't see that, but he's not running a version that segfaults anyway
16:12 <BabyBug> yup
16:12 <Lucifer> so you'll need to install an older version of ftgl and hope configure finds it
16:12  * BabyBug can't install an older version *growl*
16:12  * Lucifer wants to statically link ftgl in the autopackage
16:13 <BabyBug> hopefully tomato can \o/
16:13 <PinkTomato> what about the one in ubuntu?
16:13 <Lucifer> hey BabyBug (hi there!) , try the autopackage again
16:13 <Lucifer> er, nvm
16:13 <PinkTomato> repository, ubuntu repository is always old.
16:13 <BabyBug> Lucifer, the .package file works fine though, even with the stupid ftgl version
16:13 <Lucifer> it's possible the .package file has ftgl statically linked and I just don't know it
16:13 <Lucifer> in which case, it's using ftgl code from my computer, which has a working ftgl version
16:13 <BabyBug> lol
16:14  * Lucifer is going to try to run a windows build with wine
16:14 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: is there a way to unmake a file?
16:14 <Lucifer> rm
16:14 <Lucifer> :)
16:14 <BabyBug> make clean gets rid of everything?
16:15 <PinkTomato> great, I'll re make install ftgl and see where it stuffs everything
16:15 <Lucifer> use checkinstall
16:15 <Lucifer> I just found out about it ;)
16:15 <BabyBug> isn't that the easy way to make debs?
16:15 <Lucifer> make uninstall should work, if the uninstall target exists in ftgl
16:16 <Lucifer> BabyBug: supposedly it makes them from a run of "make install"
16:16 <Lucifer> ok, fixed the 404 error
16:18 <Lucifer> not happy with the fix, though, because maps are inconsistent from cockpits for some reason
16:18  * Lucifer is installing codeblocks
16:20  * BabyBug is playing wow =x
16:21  * PinkTomato thinks make uninstall and apt-get ftgl-dev has worked :)
16:21 <PinkTomato> so thanks :)
16:21 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/CodeRed/Race/Winding-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by CodeRed
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16:25 <Lucifer> hmmmm, does wine support .msi files?
16:26 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: I got camview working in 0.3.1
16:27 <PinkTomato> I merged the wrong way though
16:27 <PinkTomato>  bzr merge -r688..689 ../trunk-armagetronad-camview/
16:28 <BabyBug> Lucifer, yes it does
16:28 <BabyBug> Lucifer, you should have an msiexec command?
16:28 <BabyBug> msiexec file.msi
16:30 <PinkTomato> that camview is awesome ;)
16:35 <Lucifer> aha, thanks BabyBug (hi there!)
16:35 <BabyBug> yw
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16:36 <Lucifer> I think I'm going to want a separate copy of the branch to screw with windows building
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16:49 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/CodeRed/Maze/diamondofdeath-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by CodeRed
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16:54 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: have you found the thread you were after?
16:54 <Lucifer> no, and I'm watching star trek now :)
16:55 <PinkTomato> http://forums.armagetronad.net/search.php?search_author=spang
16:55 <PinkTomato> not any of those is it?
16:55 <PinkTomato> I don't really know what your looking for, so :D
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17:25 <Concord> #seen rain
17:25 <@armabot> Concord: rain was last seen in #armagetron 1 year, 39 weeks, 5 days, 4 hours, 56 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <rain> ty yojimbo
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17:26 <Concord> wb
17:26 <Concord> #tronic_development
17:28 <Concord> INVITE Corn #tronic_development
17:28 <Concord> wups
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17:34 <Lucifer> #m PinkTomato thanks, I was afraid what I was looking for was in 0.3.1 laundry list, and it was.  Thanks for finding it :)
17:34 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
17:39 <MaZuffeR> #seen vinavil
17:39 <@armabot> MaZuffeR: vinavil was last seen in #armagetron 34 weeks, 1 day, 19 hours, 19 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: <vinavil> it seems there is something interesting in x sumo
17:39 <MaZuffeR> Concord, rain used vinavil as his nick here because rain was already taken
17:40 <Concord> i forgot that
17:49 <Corn> how many weeks are in a year?
17:49 <Concord> 52
17:49 <Concord> 34/52
17:50 <Corn> k
17:57 <Lucifer> #bzr
17:57 <@armabot> bzr co lp:armagetronad (for trunk) bzr co lp:armagetronad/0.2.8 (for 0.2.8) bzr branch lp:~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.3.1 (bzr >= 1.4)
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18:01 <PinkTomato> armabot: I have a message?
18:01 <PinkTomato> yw lucifer :)
18:02 <Lucifer> why does bzr take so long to download a branch?  :(
18:04 <PinkTomato> Only seems slow to me if your waiting for something :). What did you mean by I was afarid it was in the laundary list
18:05 <Lucifer> the 0.3.1 laundry list thread is really long, and really painful to read because it's so long
18:05 <Lucifer> looking for anything in there is like looking for a needle in a haystack
18:07 <PinkTomato> ah, I see :)
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18:12 <Concord> ello
18:12 <epsy> hi
18:14 <Lucifer> er, why don't our batch files run under wine?
18:18 <PinkTomato> is it wineconsole?
18:18 <Lucifer> I think so
18:18 <Lucifer> wine cmd
18:19 <Lucifer> it segfaults when it's trying to check python
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18:25 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: ?
18:25 <luke-jr> z-man: wouldn't AUTHORS be a one-or-the-other choice? O.o
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18:38 <Lucifer> grrrrrrrrr
18:38  * Lucifer doesn't remember how to get cb_console_runner to build arma from wine
18:39  * BabyBug zaps the remememememory into Lucifer's head
18:41 <Lucifer> oh, heh, I'm trying to do it wrong, that's the problem
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19:06 <epsy> z-man, ok, that should be fixed, sorry for the inconveniences
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19:07 <epsy> it should have proper default values in case they aren't available otherwise
19:08 <epsy> g++: unrecognized option '-nobodyreadsconfigureoutputanyway'
19:08 <epsy> lol??
19:08 <z-man> heh, that's not an error, is it?
19:08 <epsy> no, just a warning
19:09 <z-man> then it's fine :)
19:09 <epsy> and I think I spotted GCC thinking it was compiling C
19:09 <epsy> it shows on each line
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19:13 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8747 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (5 files in 4 dirs): epsy: fixed build
19:13 <Lucifer> did you test it?
19:14 <epsy> the build, yes..now z-numbers seem broken
19:14 <Lucifer> z-numbers?
19:14 <z-man> that could be one of the things I commited blindly.
19:14 <Lucifer> er, z-man does blind commits?
19:15 <z-man> semi-blind.
19:15 <Lucifer> z-man: WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH Z-MAN????
19:15 <z-man> They fixed the problem I could see.
19:15 <z-man> Of course, they ran into different problems later, but I left them to epsy :)
19:15 <Lucifer> and here I thought I was being good by testing camview before blindly putting it in the trunk
19:16 <z-man> epsy: maybe all the version variables should be moved to tVersion.cpp as non-statics and declared extern in tVersion.h.
19:16 <Lucifer> hey, know of any other hacks people have done to the trunk that we haven't looked at?
19:17 <z-man> That prevents warnings about unused variables and is better anyway, because I don't think what you're currently doing actually works :)
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19:18 <epsy> z-man, that's what I just did, moving them to .cpp..that's saner for inclusion anyway
19:18 <Lucifer> heh, will that fix the problems with ruby?
19:18 <epsy> I'll change them to extern, that should be better..I have each 10× times considering nm
19:19 <z-man> epsy: no, you just move their values into the cpp, they're still declared and defined in the .h.
19:19 <Lucifer> hmmmm, anybody else getting a segfault in the 0.3.1 branch?
19:19 <epsy> yeah
19:19 <Lucifer> oh yeah
19:19 <epsy> (to z-man)
19:19 <Lucifer> z-man: when you built the 0.3.0 autopackage, what did you do about ftgl?
19:19 <Lucifer> does that get linked statically already?
19:19 <z-man> Compile it with CXX=apg++ into /usr/local, I think.
19:20 <z-man> yes, I probably added a line to the manifest that lets it be linked statically.
19:20  * z-man checks
19:21 <Lucifer> oh good, camview segfaults on exit
19:21 <z-man> no, it ftgl is not linked statically, it was a dependency.
19:22 <z-man> it's a C library, right?
19:22 <Lucifer> should be
19:23 <Lucifer> ah, I get it, heh
19:23 <Lucifer> I told it to link ftgl statically
19:24 <luke-jr> anyone happen to know if ftgl improves or detracts performance?
19:24 <Lucifer> both
19:24 <z-man> heh :)
19:24 <luke-jr> wtf
19:24 <luke-jr> how can it possibly do both?
19:24 <z-man> it improves the look
19:24 <Lucifer> it's one of those situations where there's no clear answer
19:24 <z-man> but at a cost.
19:24 <Lucifer> and the cost itself isn't always there, sometimes it improves the look *and* at higher performance
19:25 <z-man> and in some situations, it can be faster than 0.2.8's rendering.
19:25 <luke-jr> would it be simple to explain why the cost is sometimes there and sometimes not?
19:25 <Lucifer> in any case, it's our surest ticket to Really Good i18n support, so it has to stay if only for that reason
19:25 <Lucifer> luke-jr: sure.  IT DEPENDS ON WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE SCENE AT THE TIME
19:26 <luke-jr> mh
19:26 <Lucifer> there's a higher initial cost, though.  0.2.8 loads the font textures and leaves them there, iirc
19:26 <Lucifer> ftgl has to render them as needed, but caches the renders
19:27 <luke-jr> the text isn't given a mirrored texture afaik, so perhaps that can be fixed
19:27 <Lucifer> so it slows up starting the game, but after it's gone through all the regular glyphs, it's a bit faster
19:27 <Lucifer> in any case, I think camview is good and should go into 0.3.1 :)
19:27 <luke-jr> what tool is used to edit the font, btw?
19:27  * Lucifer wants to see what people do with it with textures
19:28 <Lucifer> fontforge, iirc
19:28 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: can camview be customised like wrtl's cockpit?
19:28 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: it's a cockpit widget
19:28 <luke-jr> also, do font*.{xcf,png} have a reason to be in trunk anymore?
19:28 <Lucifer> voodoo did all the Right Things to get it included
19:28 <Lucifer> luke-jr: yes, the old font rendering is still available
19:28 <PinkTomato> ooo :), might try that then
19:29 <Lucifer> it may always be available, in fact.  I can't think of a reason to completely remove it, until supporting that code costs more than its worth
19:29 <epsy> z-man, eh well, these lines did require -P
19:29 <z-man> Not acceptable, ensign epsy.
19:29 <z-man> :)
19:29 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: it's mostly our fault it's not there
19:30 <z-man> -P is not available here for me, so I suppose it's unavailable elsewhere.
19:30 <z-man> You'll need to find another way.
19:30 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: but I'm over here thinking it doesn't seem to slow down rendering, it looks nice, it works, and it's been sitting around for a year waiting for us to move on it
19:30 <Lucifer> -P isn't available for me, but :-P is
19:31  * Lucifer wonders what UNIX would look like if :- had been adopted as a standard for commandline options
19:31 <Lucifer> so, any objections to putting camview in the trunk?
19:32 <epsy> z-man, Lucifer: grep --version?
19:32 <z-man> GNU grep 2.5.3
19:32 <Lucifer> same here
19:32 <epsy> I have the same..
19:32 <z-man> manuel@gonzo:/mnt/E/NoBack/Video$ grep -P bla
19:32 <z-man> grep: Support for the -P option is not compiled into this --disable-perl-regexp binary
19:32 <z-man> blame kubuntu.
19:32 <epsy> can you tell me what kind of regexp it accepts?
19:33 <Lucifer> normal regexps?
19:33 <epsy> blah, another reason to have ubuntu :<
19:33 <Lucifer> you forget that perl is not the "standard" regexp
19:33 <epsy> ok, wtf are normal regexp?
19:33 <z-man> It's an experimental option.
19:33 <Lucifer> if it works in sed....
19:33 <z-man> man 7 regex
19:34 <epsy> no such entry, meheh
19:34 <z-man> also, of course, instead of grep + awk you can just use sed at times :)
19:34 <epsy> not very familiar with it
19:35 <epsy> but err, thinking about it, it should be better
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19:35 <epsy> well, let's see if sed likes my rexexps
19:36 <Lucifer> z-man: have you built any rpms since you left gentoo?
19:38 <z-man> No.
19:38 <Lucifer> I'm wondering how important it is for us to keep building rpms
19:38 <Lucifer> seems like it's a .deb world these days
19:39 <z-man> I can't see a reason to build .debs either when we have autopackages that work everywhere.
19:39 <epsy> VIM uses the same kind of regexp than sed by default, right?
19:39 <z-man> .debs are sort of expected to be taylored well to each distribution, which I can't be arsed to.
19:40 <z-man> launchpad has this build service where you just give them the source and they build .debs for all currently supported ubuntu variants.
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19:42 <Lucifer> well, .debs that are built for debian are kindof standard and expected to work on any debian-based distribution (even if they don't)
19:46 <teabot> armablah: I’m Not Going To Stumble On About Idealism « Play Fortress <http://playfortress.wordpress.com/2009/01/05/im-not-going-to-stumble-on-about-idealism/>
19:46 <Lucifer> er, wtf?
19:46 <Lucifer> + rpmbuild -ba /home/dave/RPM/SPECS/armagetronad.spec
19:46 <Lucifer> error: File /home/share/Projects/RPM/SOURCES/armagetronad-0.3.1_alpha1.src.tar.bz2: No such file or directory
19:46 <Lucifer> why is it looking there?  that's just crazy stuff
19:48 <Lucifer> that's an old directory I used to build rpms when I was still in mandriva
19:49 <Lucifer> so clearly this is fallout from copying my home directory from mandriva to kubuntu, but where is this thing getting defined?  :(
19:54  * Lucifer found it and fixed it
19:55 <teabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r752 fixed build...
19:59 <epsy> grm..if haveone have the output of bzr missing when you have one revision more than on the branch's parent..
19:59 <epsy> well, forget
20:02 <Lucifer> is epsy making sense to anybody?
20:03 <ct|kyle> epsy never makes sense
20:03 <luke-jr> lol
20:04  * luke-jr gives up on font design
20:04 <@armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r8748 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/textures/ (Armagetronad.ttf armagetronad.sfd): I made a Pts character and a retarded smiley character
20:05 <Lucifer> er
20:05 <Lucifer> luke-jr: you did make sure you put those where they're actual utf-8 characters, right?  ;)
20:06  * Lucifer hates waiting for emails
20:10 <epsy> is there anything better than using   sed | wc -l ?
20:18 <z-man> depends on the sed command.
20:18 <z-man> Lucifer: there's an official retarded smiley in unicode?
20:18 <epsy> right, that seems to be working without grep
20:19 <epsy>  bzr log ${srcdir} -l ${localrevisions} | sed -ne 's/^ *revno: [0-9\.]\+$/\0/p' | wc -l
20:19 <epsy> for example
20:20 <Lucifer> z-man: I'm sure there's a place where it could be put
20:21 <luke-jr> Lucifer: of course
20:21 <luke-jr> z-man: no, my smiley implementation is retarded
20:21 <luke-jr> z-man: I made it out of O, o, and U
20:21 <epsy> well, luke-jr can just type : ) where and he gets an officially retarded smiley
20:21  * Lucifer hates waiting for emails
20:22 <epsy> here *
20:22 <luke-jr> ☺
20:22 <epsy> here you go
20:22 <PinkTomato> must be UTF-8 then?
20:22 <epsy> (note how you can barely read it, heh)
20:22 <z-man> Lucifer: objections against putting Arma on PC ACTION (German PC games magazine, obnoxious, but popular)
20:22  * Lucifer notes how epsy can barely read it
20:23 <epsy> hmmm capslock?
20:23 <Lucifer> z-man: no?
20:23 <z-man> good :)
20:23 <luke-jr> z-man: we have enough obnoxious players that it wouldn't make a big difference
20:23 <Lucifer> I should just put camview in 0.3.1, it's easier to ask forgiveness than it is to ask for approval
20:23 <Lucifer> not that luke-jr would notice, he never plays :)
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20:23 <luke-jr> Lucifer: wouldn't you be the one approving it? o.O
20:23 <luke-jr> Lucifer: I do so!
20:24 <luke-jr> I have 3D accel now
20:24 <epsy> is it intel 3D accel?
20:24 <Lucifer> luke-jr: well, it is an unreviewed patch
20:24 <luke-jr> epsy: no
20:24 <Lucifer> I mean, I did scroll through the implementation and look at it, but that doesn't mean much
20:24 <epsy> then you will still be able to "love intel for it's GPUs"
20:25 <PinkTomato> intel blames valve and valve blames intel
20:25 <luke-jr> valve sucks
20:25 <epsy> valve..wtf was valve?
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20:25 <epsy> @g valve
20:25 <teabot> epsy: http://www.valvesoftware.com/ - Valve
20:25 <PinkTomato> HalfLife
20:25 <epsy> & portal?
20:25 <PinkTomato> yeah :)
20:26 <PinkTomato> I got portal working only when I turned off all mirroring and transparancy
20:26 <PinkTomato> which means you can't see the walls
20:26 <epsy> watching a few videoshots of portal it looks great but gameplay could be better
20:26 <epsy> it's too easy
20:26 <PinkTomato> Well I would love to play it ;)
20:26 <PinkTomato> I don't know if I should be blaming intel or valve though
20:26 <epsy> I mean, portals are bidirectionnal, you can build them individually..
20:27 <epsy> and wtf has this to do with intel?
20:27 <epsy> valve does DirectX anyway?
20:27 <PinkTomato> Intel Graphics Card
20:27 <luke-jr> does not exist
20:27 <PinkTomato> Well when I say card, i meant chipset
20:27 <luke-jr> :D
20:27 <epsy> hrhr
20:28 <Lucifer> #bzr
20:28 <@armabot> bzr co lp:armagetronad (for trunk) bzr co lp:armagetronad/0.2.8 (for 0.2.8) bzr branch lp:~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.3.1 (bzr >= 1.4)
20:28 <epsy> PinkTomato, install nexuiz, and try that race server
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20:28 <epsy> it has a much more tricky portal gun
20:29 <PinkTomato> wow that looks pretty good
20:30 <epsy> ie. You can't build portals individually, they are unidirectionnal, but the projectile it a bit slower :)
20:30 <epsy> is *
20:30 <Lucifer> here we go with another long branch operation :(
20:30 <PinkTomato> :(
20:30 <epsy> Lucifer, have you made a bzr repo somewhere on your comp?
20:31 <Lucifer> epsy: yes?
20:31 <epsy> use it?
20:31 <Lucifer> er, ok?
20:31 <Lucifer> look, I get this:
20:32 <epsy> branching is usually shorter using a repo
20:32 <Lucifer> dave@fiona:~/Projects/armagetronad/armagetronad$ bzr pull lp:~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.3.1
20:32 <Lucifer> bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "/home/dave/Projects/armagetronad/armagetronad/lp:~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.3.1/".
20:32 <Lucifer> when trying to pull to my branch
20:32 <epsy> outdated bzr
20:32 <epsy> needs 1.6
20:32 <Lucifer> epsy: but if I do that, I still have to update the lp branch somehow
20:32 <epsy> but?
20:35 <Lucifer> oh yeah, I wanted to put up another autopackage for PinkTomato (hi there!) to test
20:35  * Lucifer guesses he'll do it after this branching is done, so he can build it with camview in it
20:42 <Concord> could I have a 6 word description of camview? i have no idea what it is but it sounds cool
20:42 <PinkTomato> rear view mirror widget very awesome
20:42 <Concord> oho!
20:42 <Concord> that is cool
20:42 <@armabot> 0.3.1: dave@davefancella.com r751: Credited voodoo for camview || dave@davefancella.com r750: Added camview, from voodoo
20:42 <Concord> I could reassign my glance back button to something else
20:43 <luke-jr> since 0.3.1 was done bzr-only, any objections if I manually sync it into svn?
20:44 <PinkTomato> Corn: screenshots: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18350
20:44 <luke-jr> or maybe z-man's script is able to do it?
20:44 <Corn> What?
20:44 <Lucifer> it's not just rear view, it's any view, it's configurable
20:44 <Corn> Oh wow is that several different camera views at once
20:45 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8749 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (5 files in 4 dirs): epsy: ..and have an actual working version label
20:45 <Lucifer> yeah, the show-off camview shows two on the cockpit
20:45 <Corn> Interesting
20:45 <Corn> that might actually make cockpit a viable view
20:45 <Lucifer> er, that sentence didn't make any sense
20:46 <Lucifer> rather, it makes sense if you mean cockpit as a synonym for in-cam, which iit isn't :)
20:46 <Corn> i meant incam :P
20:46 <Lucifer> cockpit replaces the HUD that's in 0.2.8
20:47 <Corn> cockpit is more of a synonym to HUD really
20:47 <Lucifer> not anymore, with textures it's finally grown to where it's bigger than HUD
20:48 <Lucifer> it's not too far from being able to provide a view of the inside of the light cycle
20:48 <Corn> a view from inside the light cycle could just be a HUD module
20:49 <Corn> covering the entire view
20:49 <Lucifer> yeah, that's what the cockpit provides now
20:49 <Corn> well i gotta go bye
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20:49 <Lucifer> but you have to be able to glance and see the other parts of the cycle, which it doesn't provide
20:54 <Lizmatic> COCKPIT
20:54 <Lucifer> it's really too bad liz can only read the first four letters of any word
20:55 <teabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r754 ..and have an actual working version label || [0.3.1] r751 Credited voodoo for camview || [0.3.1] r750 Added camview, from voodoo || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r753 I made a Pts character and a retarded smiley character
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21:08 <ct|kyle> #quote get #crazy-tronners 7
21:08 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Error: There is no Quote with id #7 in my database for #crazy-tronners.
21:11 <ct|kyle> darn i thought for sure i quoted ed and his Cock
21:11 <ct|kyle> pit files messages
21:15 <BabyBug> Lucifer, you got any .package files with the fixed cockpit?
21:15 <Lucifer> fixed cockpit?  was it broke?
21:15 <Lucifer> oh wait, yeah, coming :)
21:16 <BabyBug> kk :)
21:16  * Lucifer just deleted what he had to rebuild
21:16 <epsy> Lucifer, I should be done
21:16 <epsy> wow magic IRC
21:16 <Lucifer> done with what?
21:16 <Lucifer> cleaning up your mess?  ;)
21:16 <epsy> :)
21:17 <epsy> unless building then running arma with --versioninfo gives crap, mess is cleaned up
21:18 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer: actually, when looking at resource font sets it gets way easier if you remove support for the old fonts
21:18 <epsy> should I put a PKGBUILD in trunk?
21:18 <Lucifer> wrtlprnft: weren't we keeping support for the old fonts around for performance reasons on older machines?
21:18 <Lucifer> or was it just more of our collective fear of commitment?
21:19 <wrtlprnft> i think it was just because the new fonts were experimental
21:19 <Lucifer> if that's the reason, then we can drop support anytime :)
21:20 <wrtlprnft> we could support rendering the fonts at a lower resolution than it's really used at, though
21:20 <Lucifer> the new fonts are at least as functional as the old, I think
21:20 <epsy> do we have a target for building stuff that helps utilities such as whatever builds .debs ?
21:21 <wrtlprnft> when i do the resource font thing they may be gone
21:21 <Lucifer> well, if there's a reason to keep the old font system around, I'm happy to keep it around, and I'm willing to not support resource fonts that use the old fonts
21:21 <wrtlprnft> alone because of the fact that they use up the name tFont
21:21 <Lucifer> epsy: it's in the trunk-build-work branch
21:21 <epsy> ah, crap
21:21 <Lucifer> oh yeah, you need to pull a branch :)
21:22 <Lucifer> wrtlprnft: basically, I don't care.  If you want to pull the old fonts out, I can't think of any reason it should ruin my day :)
21:22 <epsy> more branches to the same product for different tools, meh, I guess
21:22 <Lucifer> epsy: yep :)
21:24 <Lucifer> this thing needs to hurry up :/
21:24 <epsy> well, arch packages are not mandatory
21:24 <epsy> and we have to deal stuff with the arch guys then :(
21:25 <Lucifer> I'm gonna go fart around for a bit, it's really frustrating waiting for email :(
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21:37 <epsy> ok, I built arma. NOW I can make distclean
21:41 <K-Yo> wb P4
21:41 <P4> when did i leave?
21:41 <P4> and what reason?
21:41 <epsy> Success
21:46 <epsy> Lucifer, if I should change some values in a file I should have some .in version of it, and then adjust it from the Makefile?
21:46 <epsy> (that file being a helper at building packages in trunk-build)
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21:47 <epsy> or is it another way that's the standart?
21:49 <K-Yo> * P4 est parti (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
21:49 <K-Yo> I don't have time
21:49 <P4> no no, it means my time was over :þ
21:50 <epsy> #any --from P4 -no-limit
21:50 <@armabot> epsy: (any [<channel>] [--user <name>] [<nick>]) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen doing. This includes any form of activity, instead of just PRIVMSGs. If <nick> isn't specified, returns the last activity seen in <channel>. If --user is specified, looks up name in the user database and returns the last time user was active in <channel>. <channel> is only (1 more message)
21:56 <K-Yo> --nolimit ?
21:56 <Lucifer> epsy: you should never adjust a makefile directly
21:56 <Lucifer> if there's a .am file, you edit that and that only
21:56 <epsy> I don't see --nolimit documented anywhre on this function
21:56 <Lucifer> if there's just a .in file, you edit that
21:57 <Lucifer> the makefile in the build module is different, though.  It's just a regular makefile
21:57 <epsy> yes-
21:58 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: BabyBug (hi there!)
21:58 <BabyBug> Lucifer
21:58 <Lucifer> http://www.davefancella.com/armagetronad-0.3.1_alpha1.i486-generic-linux-gnu.package
21:58 <Lucifer> let me know if it works :)
21:58 <Lucifer> also, check the incam for a surprise
21:58 <epsy> I'm building up a PKGBUILD, but unlike debian's 'rules', it's not interactive, so I'll have to fill in the values before letting makepkg do it's job
21:59 <BabyBug> Lucifer, got the torrents on again?
22:00 <Lucifer> BabyBug: yes :)
22:00 <Lucifer> Red Dwarf, this time
22:00 <epsy> PinkTomato, I didn't ask, but is valve's portal based off id4 ?
22:00 <PinkTomato> epsy: Not sure really
22:01 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: I think being able to upload on a home connection at 60kB/sec is a feat in itself
22:01 <epsy> Lucifer, so, would be putting up a PKGBUILD.in and having a make rule fill the values in The Right Way To Do It ?
22:01 <Lucifer> epsy: I don't know, what the hell is PKGBUILD?
22:02 <epsy> a file that makepkg reads to build archlinux packages
22:02 <PinkTomato> report anon stats to developers?
22:03 <Lucifer> epsy: in that case, there is no "right" way to do it
22:03 <Lucifer> but here's the general approach, which you'll see done in the old mandriva spec files and autopackage file
22:03 <epsy> so I have to make up the right way to do it?
22:04 <Lucifer> basically, we want configure to have options to allow us to configure every aspect of the build, including where shit gets installed
22:04 <Lucifer> then, in the package build instructions, there's usually a way to tell it what options to pass to configure
22:04 <PinkTomato> still suffering from 404 resource here, checking i'm running the right ver atm
22:04 <Lucifer> so use that
22:05 <epsy> ah, so from the makefile I should have a way to fetch packagename and packageversion ?
22:05 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: is the 404 error followed by a bunch of xml validation errors?
22:05 <PinkTomato> yes, so it might not be a 404
22:05 <Lucifer> epsy: yes.  Currently there's some rewriting done for every thing, where our sources contain a placeholder of sorts
22:06 <Lucifer> the original rpm spec file is a series of m4 files, that's like the most hardcore we can get
22:06 <Lucifer> but you can use something simple and use sed to do the replacement if you like
22:06 <Lucifer> you know, to put the version in
22:06 <epsy> yeah
22:06 <epsy> well, PKGBUILDs are meant to be simple, so I'll keep it simple
22:07 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: it shoudl start with a 404 error for resource.dtd or something like it
22:07 <PinkTomato> yeah its a .dtd 404
22:07 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: you can easily verify it's the right version by looking in the about menu
22:07 <Lucifer> it should be versioned 0.3.1_alpha1
22:08 <PinkTomato> I made my own copy today,
22:08  * Lucifer didn't test this particular autopackage, but dammit, it was fixed!
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22:13 <Lucifer> oops, I should've tested the server before tagging, heh
22:20 <epsy> boo graffitis
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23:35 <Lucifer> great, teh server doesn't build.  :(
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