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Log from 2008-12-30:
--- Day changed Tue Dec 30 2008
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00:41 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: 1e10 = 1
00:46 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 1.0 * 10**10
00:46 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: 10000000000
00:46 <Lucifer_arma> er, duh
00:47 <Lucifer_arma> nvm
00:49 <ct|kyle> lol Lucifer_arma
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03:47 <GodTodd> luke-jr, whose trunk are you patching your small feature into?
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04:43 <luke-jr> GodTodd: …
04:45 <GodTodd> luke-jr, ???
04:45 <luke-jr> [20:47:00] <GodTodd> luke-jr, whose trunk are you patching your small feature into?
04:47 <GodTodd> [12:06] <luke-jr> z-man: yay, my small feature for 0.2.8 now patches cleanly into trunk
04:49 <luke-jr> there's only one trunk
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05:38 <GodTodd> heh....obviously humor is an alien concept...i forgot, sorry. ;)
05:42 <Lucifer> yeah, humor was brought to us by the coneheads
06:03 <Lucifer> I'm about to put "Evil Triumvir" on my resume, is that good or bad?
06:07 <ct|kyle> well nothing really shows up on google  "We could not understand the location "Evil Triumvir""
06:08 <ct|kyle> wait I found it on Armagetron forums
06:08 <ct|kyle> armagetron*
06:08 <Lucifer> well, the job title is in reference to arma on my resume
06:08 <ct|kyle> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=30699#30699
06:09 <ct|kyle> google pulled that up
06:12 <GodTodd> oh...incidentally, Lucifer, any idea how come i still can't pull up your site?
06:12 <Lucifer> GodTodd: maybe nobody can?
06:12 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: can you see http://www.davefancella.com/  ?
06:14 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: no
06:14 <GodTodd> i'm just trying to make sure it's nothing on my end
06:15 <Lucifer> what do you get in a ping?
06:15 <Lucifer> maybe my IP address changed again, heh
06:16 <ct|kyle> 75.13.83.46
06:17 <Lucifer> hmmm, that's what the router says my ip address is
06:17 <Lucifer> can you telnet to it?
06:18 <ct|kyle> i can get to that IP through web just not http://www.davefancella.com/
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06:22 <Lucifer_arma> hmm, can anybody see my website?  ;)
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> maybe AT&T moved to block it, heh
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: wait a minute, what exactly is happening?
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> you're getting a timeout, right?  Like the machine isn't there?
06:26  * Lucifer_arma recalls AT&T is having some serious technical difficulties
06:30 <ct|kyle> Lucifer_arma: ya, basically, but it answers quickly with the IP
06:33 <GodTodd> yep, what ct|kyle said
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06:41 <Lucifer_arma> Does it timeout on "Connecting" or does it timeout on "Receiving data from"?
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> or does it timeout at all?  Mine just jumps straight to the "Can't connect" page in firefox
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> #fetch http://www.davefancella.com
06:43 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: timed out
06:45 <ct|kyle> Lucifer_arma: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/www.davefancella.com
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> I just saw that appear in the log :)
06:45 <ct|kyle> Lucifer_arma: possibly a Verizon issue
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> that site says it's up
06:46  * Lucifer_arma is bookmarking it
06:46 <ct|kyle> it does not work 100% of the time, but is a neat little troubleshooting tool
06:54 <Lucifer_arma> well, the accesses are in the access log, I don't know why the download of the page itself is failing
06:54 <Lucifer_arma> I think I'm going to just wait a few days before I worry about it
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08:06  * Lucifer_arma likes his new website
08:10 <ct|kyle> Lucifer_arma: still won't load for me
08:23 <Lucifer_arma> #fetch http://www.davefancella.com:8080
08:23 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: timed out
08:24 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: ping
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08:29 <Lucifer> #headers http://www.davefancella.com:8080
08:30 <@armabot> Lucifer: timed out
08:30 <Lucifer> GodTodd: ping
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08:31 <GodTodd> Lucifer, pong
08:31 <Lucifer> #fetch http://www.davefancella.com:8080
08:31 <Lucifer> GodTodd: try that ^^^^^^
08:31 <@armabot> Lucifer: timed out
08:32 <GodTodd> still hanging while waiting for a reply
08:33 <Lucifer> well, I changed my setup a bit to see
08:33 <Lucifer> I put it on port 8080, and I moved the second router out of the dmz, and forwarded port 8080 from the first router to port 80 on the second
08:33 <Lucifer> I get a big difference here, firefox doesn't immediately say it can't download the webpage, it's hanging while waiting too
08:34 <Lucifer> otherwise, the server says it's sending
08:34 <GodTodd> hmmm
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08:41 <Lucifer> no, it wouldn't have worked last night if it was bloccked
08:41 <Lucifer> I don't think  the port is blocked
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08:42 <Lucifer> GodTodd: can you hit me with an ssh attempt?
08:43 <Lucifer> just see if you can get a login prompt?
08:45 <GodTodd> at the www.davefancella.com?
08:45 <Lucifer> yeah
08:46 <Lucifer> just ssh www.davefancella.com
08:46 <Lucifer> or ssh dave@www.davefancella.com is fine too
08:46 <GodTodd> nothing so far
08:47  * Lucifer really thinks this is part of the problem that AT&T has been experiencing yesterday that might be linked to what akira_arma linked us to
08:47 <GodTodd> it's possible
08:48 <GodTodd> i can access your site (the "it works!" page at least) by ip but not by url
08:48 <GodTodd> yeah, ssh is just hanging
08:48 <Lucifer> hmmmm
08:48 <Lucifer> why by IP, I wonder?
08:49 <GodTodd> that's what the real headscratcher is
08:53 <Lucifer> GodTodd: what does the IP get you now?
08:54 <GodTodd> hanging
08:54 <Lucifer> heh
08:54 <GodTodd> i can even ping the url successfully
08:54 <Lucifer> ok, try again with the ip address
08:54 <GodTodd> yeah, ip is working again now
08:54 <Lucifer> ahhh, that's very telling
08:59 <GodTodd> fwiw, luciferarma.kicks-ass.net works
08:59 <Lucifer> does it?
08:59 <GodTodd> yep
09:00 <GodTodd> goes to the same place as the ip
09:00 <Lucifer> try it again :)
09:00 <GodTodd> hanging now :)
09:01 <Lucifer> that means something, but what?
09:01 <GodTodd> exactly :)
09:02 <GodTodd> kinda points a bit away from an outage, tho.
09:02 <Lucifer> how about now
09:02 <Lucifer> yeah, points away from network problems entirely, and right back to apache'
09:02 <Lucifer> but now I'm having the weird mime problems I was having yesterday that prompted hooking up the second router
09:02 <GodTodd> hanging
09:02 <GodTodd> hrmm
09:03 <Lucifer> one more time
09:03 <Lucifer> what do you get with the IP address?
09:03  * Lucifer is trying to make his own website show up for the IP address
09:04 <GodTodd> both are hanging right now
09:04 <Lucifer> what's in the default vhost that makes it work?
09:05 <GodTodd> davefancella.com is just a cname off of luciferarma isn't it?
09:05 <Lucifer> yes
09:05 <GodTodd> so...the main domain was working but the cname forwarding isn't
09:06  * GodTodd thinks out loud often. ;)
09:06 <GodTodd> *but* we're able to ping the cname
09:07 <Lucifer> *was working
09:08 <Lucifer> but it wasn't turning up my website, it was the default website
09:08 <Lucifer> disable the default website, and it stops working
09:08 <luke-jr> Lucifer: come play TWG in my Arma server? ;p
09:09 <Lucifer> #fetch http://www.davefancella.com
09:10 <@armabot> Lucifer: timed out
09:10 <Lucifer> #fetch http://luciferarma.kicks-ass.net
09:10 <Lucifer> #fetch http://75.13.83.46/
09:10 <@armabot> Lucifer: timed out
09:10 <@armabot> Lucifer: timed out
09:10 <luke-jr> ..
09:11 <Lucifer> #fetch http://75.13.83.46/
09:11 <@armabot> Lucifer: '<html><body><h1>It works!</h1></body></html>\n'
09:11 <Lucifer> #fetch http://luciferarma.kicks-ass.net
09:11 <@armabot> Lucifer: '<html><body><h1>It works!</h1></body></html>\n'
09:11 <Lucifer> #fetch http://www.davefancella.com
09:11 <@armabot> Lucifer: '<html><body><h1>It works!</h1></body></html>\n'
09:13 <Lucifer> #fetch http://www.davefancella.com
09:13 <Lucifer> #fetch http://luciferarma.kicks-ass.net
09:13 <Lucifer> #fetch http://75.13.83.46/
09:13 <@armabot> Lucifer: timed out
09:13 <@armabot> Lucifer: '<html><body><h1>It works!</h1></body></html>\n'
09:13 <@armabot> Lucifer: '<html><body><h1>It works!</h1></body></html>\n'
09:14 <Lucifer> #fetch http://75-13-83-46.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net
09:14 <@armabot> Lucifer: '<html><body><h1>It works!</h1></body></html>\n'
09:16 <Lucifer> #fetch http://75-13-83-46.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net/about.html
09:16 <@armabot> Lucifer: timed out
09:17 <Lucifer> #fetch http://75.13.83.46/
09:17 <@armabot> Lucifer: timed out
09:17 <Lucifer> GodTodd: what do you get now?
09:19 <Lucifer> #fetch http://www.davefancella.com/test.html
09:19 <@armabot> Lucifer: '<html><body>It works!</body></html>\n'
09:20 <GodTodd> on which?
09:20 <Lucifer> #fetch http://www.davefancella.com/test.html
09:20 <@armabot> Lucifer: '<html><body>It works!</body></html>\n'
09:20 <Lucifer> ip, also
09:21 <luke-jr> test works for me
09:21 <Lucifer> so, the smaller file works, but the larger file does not?
09:22 <GodTodd> they all hang except for test
09:22 <Lucifer> #fetch http://75.13.83.46/test.html
09:22 <@armabot> Lucifer: '<html><body>It works!</body></html>\n'
09:22 <Lucifer> try that one
09:23 <GodTodd> works
09:24 <luke-jr> Lucifer: sounds like MTU again
09:24 <Lucifer> luke-jr: indeed, we're headed back to those same network problems
09:24 <luke-jr> you should be able to cap it on your local PC too
09:24 <luke-jr> ifconfig eth0 mtu 1400
09:24 <luke-jr> try that on the server
09:26 <Lucifer> ok, done it
09:26 <Lucifer> only it's wlan0 :)
09:26 <luke-jr> #fetch http://www.davefancella.com/
09:26 <@armabot> luke-jr: '<?xml version="1.0"\n?>\n<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">\n<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">\n<head>\n<title>Dave Fancella</title>\n<meta name="generator" content="http://txt2tags.sf.net" />\n<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="style/main.css" />\n<link rel="stylesheet" (5 more messages)
09:26 <Lucifer> so, do I need to restart my network after that?
09:26 <Lucifer> bahahahaha
09:27 <GodTodd> hey! you've hijacked my domain! ;)
09:27 <Lucifer> I have!  holy crap!
09:27 <Lucifer> :)
09:28 <Lucifer> #fetch http://75.13.83.46
09:28 <@armabot> Lucifer: '<html><body>It works!</body></html>\n'
09:28 <Lucifer> #fetch http://www.davefancella.com
09:28 <@armabot> Lucifer: '<?xml version="1.0"\n?>\n<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">\n<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">\n<head>\n<title>Dave Fancella</title>\n<meta name="generator" content="http://txt2tags.sf.net" />\n<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="style/main.css" />\n<link rel="stylesheet" (5 more messages)
09:29 <luke-jr> Lucifer: so now it's confirmed MTU issue, and the next step is to fix the router ;p
09:29 <Lucifer> it looks like I'm fixed again, for now, heh
09:29 <luke-jr> … or just set the computers' MTUs
09:29 <Lucifer> ok, what do you get for these?
09:29 <luke-jr> and let the MTU be your anti-wardriver tool
09:29 <Lucifer> http://75.13.83.46
09:30 <Lucifer> http://www.davefancella.com/
09:30 <Lucifer> http://www.toddmacy.com/
09:30 <luke-jr> It works!
09:30 <luke-jr> Dave Fancella
09:30 <luke-jr> Todd Macy
09:30 <luke-jr> GodTodd: Lucifer's site looks nicer
09:30 <Lucifer> heh
09:31 <Lucifer> you're just saying that because I use obviously KDE graphics for it :)
09:31 <GodTodd> luke-jr, i haven't worked on mine in many months
09:31 <luke-jr> Lucifer: is that what it is? ☺
09:31  * Lucifer has spent the last 5 hours or so working on his
09:31 <luke-jr> I thought it was GodTodd's blaring red highlights and moving text
09:31 <GodTodd> i think he's just hot for your pic
09:32 <Lucifer> apparently
09:32 <Lucifer> I was going to redo my site in my tron colors
09:32 <Lucifer> then I got distracted with the rain pic
09:32 <luke-jr> what are "tron colors"?
09:32 <Lucifer> the colors I use when I play arma
09:34 <luke-jr> anyhow, I'm stupid and stayed up too late; I need to be up in 5.5 hrs
09:34 <luke-jr> night
09:34 <Lucifer> you're finally right about a whole lot of things at once!
09:35 <luke-jr> …
09:35 <luke-jr> or maybe I was always right and your wife blinded you of it
09:35  * luke-jr runs
09:36 <Lucifer> that could only happen in a universe where a = 0 is false, seeing as how you and she agree on so many things
09:36 <Lucifer> :)
09:36 <Lucifer> er
09:36 <Lucifer> that could only happen in a universe where a = a is false, seeing as how you and she agree on so many things
09:37 <GodTodd> so, basically, my site sucks because of the top navigation buttons?
09:37 <luke-jr> not-invented-here; if *she* didn't think of it, it must be wrong until she does? >.>
09:37 <GodTodd> heh
09:37 <luke-jr> GodTodd: that was what stood out to me
09:37 <Lucifer> luke-jr: yep, that's how she is
09:38 <Lucifer> GodTodd: yeah, but yo udon't have to "fix" it, so much as throw a big, tacky yellow ribbon under all the content on every page, and you'll be "patriotic" instead of "color uncoordinated"
09:38 <luke-jr> so a=a is false until she discovers it true ☺
09:38 <luke-jr> LOL
09:39 <Lucifer> luke-jr: no, the expanded statement is this:
09:39 <Lucifer> only in a universe where a=b is true, and b=c is true, but a != c
09:39 <Lucifer> where b is the idea you and she agree on, you are a, she is c
09:39 <Lucifer> in our universe, of course, a=c
09:39 <GodTodd> ummm...how is red and blue "color uncoordinated"?
09:39 <Lucifer> GodTodd: because outside of flags, those two colors clash :)
09:40 <Lucifer> they clash so badly that some people will actually wear one color while shooting people who wear the other!
09:40 <GodTodd> heh
09:45 <GodTodd> probably should make it green instead of red
09:49 <Lucifer> yes, you probably should
09:49 <Lucifer> er
09:50 <luke-jr> or invent a new colour
09:50 <Lucifer> hmmm, I've had a hard time trying to design a site around blue as a core color
09:53 <Lucifer> hmmmm
09:54 <GodTodd> yeah, i've thought about rethinking the color scheme
09:54 <GodTodd> i don't want to go too blah but i want it readable and all
09:54 <Lucifer> heh
09:54 <Lucifer> my site *used* to be built around blue
09:55 <Lucifer> I managed to make it work eventually, but it took a few years for it to finally come together
09:55 <Lucifer> was a lot of work
09:55 <Lucifer> my second green layout worked well very quickly
09:55 <GodTodd> i like having the "paper" effect on the reading parts
09:55 <Lucifer> maybe I just see green better, though
09:55 <GodTodd> so i don't want all white and all
09:56 <Lucifer> I hate all white websites
09:56 <GodTodd> me too
09:56 <Lucifer> I've really liked the style I've been working with the last couple of years, where I put a frame built with images around the content
09:56 <GodTodd> perhaps a green hue would be better
09:56 <Lucifer> and the content is a flat color
09:56 <Lucifer> try mixing it up a bit first, heh :)
09:56 <GodTodd> mixing it up?
09:56 <Lucifer> well, wait
09:57 <Lucifer> can you ssh to my machine?
09:57 <GodTodd> not sure
09:57 <Lucifer> ssh dave@www.davefancella.com and see
09:57 <Lucifer> just try to get a login
09:57 <Lucifer> prompt
09:57 <GodTodd> nothing
10:00 <Lucifer> nothing?  no login prompt?
10:00 <Lucifer> er, maybe I didn't start a ssh server
10:02 <GodTodd> nope, no prompt
10:03 <Lucifer> oh yeah, heh, sorry
10:05 <Lucifer> ssh is port 23, right?
10:07 <GodTodd> i think so
10:07 <GodTodd> er, no, 22 maybe
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10:17 <ivantis2> hey it s pink
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10:19 <PinkTomato> hello ivantis
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10:22 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: basically, here's the deal
10:22 <Lucifer_arma> if you can login with ssh, what you'll do is this:
10:23 <Lucifer_arma> use gensite to generate your site to another directory on your computer
10:23 <Lucifer_arma> then use rsync to copy it to the server
10:23 <Lucifer_arma> then you can go ahead and update it
10:23 <Lucifer_arma> you might want to copy the whole website directory and work with the copy to avoid screwing it up like I did :)
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10:25 <Lucifer_arma> grrr, it's port 22, heh
10:25 <Lucifer_arma> hang on, try again in a minute
10:25 <GodTodd> [03:07:55] <GodTodd> er, no, 22 maybe ;p
10:25 <Lucifer_arma> I'll timeout here on freenode because the router resets itself whenever it saves its config
10:26 <GodTodd> heh
10:26 <Lucifer_arma> I wasn't there for that, was timing out
10:26 <GodTodd> ah
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10:32 <Lucifer> ok, try again if you haven't already :)
10:32 <Lucifer> the internet comes back immediately, it just takes several minutes for konversation to figure out there was a break in communication and reconnect
10:34 <Lucifer> ooo
10:34 <Lucifer> alternately, you can use sshfs to mount up /www/todd somewhere in your filesystem and use gensite directly on it
10:34 <Lucifer> you'll need to put a key in your ~/.ssh directory
10:35 <GodTodd> connection refused
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10:36 <Lucifer_arma> er, wtf?
10:36 <Lucifer_arma> #ping
10:36 <@armabot> pong
10:36 -!- Lucifer_arma is now known as Lucifer
10:36 <Lucifer> #ping
10:36 <@armabot> pong
10:38 <GodTodd> is it still a waiting game?
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11:25 <Lucifer> hmmm, no, it should work now
11:27 <Lucifer> er, apparently the internal router didn't get put in the dmz like it should have
11:28 <Lucifer> GodTodd: ping
11:28 <Lucifer> if you're still kicking, try again :)
11:30 <Lucifer> #ping
11:30 <@armabot> pong
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11:34 <K-Yo> :$
11:34 <K-Yo> #servers
11:34 <@armabot> K-Yo: This data is 1 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (9/12), The YELLOW Submarine (6/16), Swampland Mud Puddle (5/8), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (5/10), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (3/14), Pru - Clan - CTF - Server (2/10), Solo Fortress (new game mode by Luke-Jr) (1/8)
11:34 <K-Yo> #ctos
11:34 <K-Yo> #alias add ctos serverinfo Crazy Tronners Open Sumo *$
11:35 <@armabot> K-Yo: The operation succeeded.
11:35 <K-Yo> #alias add ctos serverinfo $* Crazy Tronners Open Sumo
11:35 <@armabot> K-Yo: The operation succeeded.
11:35 <K-Yo> #ctos -v
11:35 <@armabot> K-Yo: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (78.46.226.237:4535) running 0.2.8_alpha20080904 unix dedicated, url: http://crazy-tronners.com/, Description: “Team Sumo Settings. First to be 1337 wins.“, Players (9/12): -»|Xyrøn, . olive, CTT_speed, dablueguy, delarge, evaldusia, joda.bot, |x| Lizmatic, ~|TS|~ LáB|3³
11:35 <K-Yo> #ctos
11:35 <@armabot> K-Yo: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo: Players (9/12): -»|Xyrøn, . olive, CTT_speed, dablueguy, delarge, evaldusia, joda.bot, |x| Lizmatic, ~|TS|~ LáB|3³
11:35 <K-Yo> cool
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12:59 <Lizmatic> *yawn* goodmorning.
13:05 <PinkTomato> afternoon Lizmatic
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13:24 <Lizmatic> O_O
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16:50 <Lizmatic> .tea
16:50 <Lizmatic> #tea
16:50 <@armabot> Lizmatic: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
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17:43 <PinkTomato> .tea
17:43 <PinkTomato> #tea
17:43 <@armabot> PinkTomato: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
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18:31 <BabyBug> #tea
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18:31 <@armabot> BabyBug: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
18:31 <BabyBug> #kick ct|kyle
18:31 <@armabot> BabyBug: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
18:31 <BabyBug> =(
18:33 <ct|kyle> lol BabyBug, Windows 7 looks fast at start but then it starts lagging the longer it is running (7.4 GB C:\windows)
18:33 <Lizmatic> #kick ct|kyle
18:33 <@armabot> Lizmatic: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
18:33 <Lizmatic> maybe if we all do it, it works
18:34 <BabyBug> \o/
18:34 <ct|kyle> #kick BabyBug
18:34 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
18:34 <ct|kyle> #kick Lizmatic
18:34  * Lizmatic giggles at ct|kyle
18:34 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
18:35 <ct|kyle> Notepad is extremely slow at loading large files
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19:39 <smoothice> hi all
19:51 <BabyBug> Hiho
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20:33 <smoothice> Hey all.. when I merge my branch with the latest revisions of the trunk I get segmentation fault upon run
20:36 <smoothice> When I run it through gdb I get
20:36 <smoothice> Program received signal EXC_BAD_ACCESS, Could not access memory.
20:36 <smoothice> Reason: 13 at address: 0x00000000
20:36 <smoothice> 0xffff0003 in ?? ()
20:39 <@armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r8700 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases.php: Added armagetronad-0.3_alpha20081230.macosx-universal.dmg
20:39 <@armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
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20:50 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8701 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Daniel Lee Harple: Put generated files in build/Generated
20:51 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8702 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. MacOS/rakefile.rb): Daniel Lee Harple: Top-level dir relative to PROJECT_DIR env variable, not the current file
20:51 <BabyBug> #tea
20:51 <@armabot> BabyBug: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
20:51 <BabyBug> ahjkahgljkdhfg
20:51 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8703 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. MacOS/rakefile.rb MacOS/rakelib/config.rake): Daniel Lee Harple: Moved AA::Config to config.rake
20:53 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8704 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. MacOS/Armagetron Advanced.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj): Daniel Lee Harple: Removed scripts dir from project.
20:54 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8705 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (5 files in 4 dirs): Daniel Lee Harple: Added task to add a release to aabeta.
20:54 <@armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
20:56 <BabyBug> spam
21:08 <smoothice> BabyBug
21:08 <ct|kyle> z-man: The future of windows holds problems for Armagetron
21:08 <BabyBug> smoothice,
21:08 <smoothice> Did you see my earlier msgfs?
21:08 <BabyBug> ?
21:08 <smoothice> smoothice: Hey all.. when I merge my branch with the latest revisions of the trunk I get segmentation fault upon run
21:08 <smoothice> [12:36pm] smoothice: When I run it through gdb I get
21:08 <smoothice> [12:36pm] smoothice: Program received signal EXC_BAD_ACCESS, Could not access memory.
21:08 <smoothice> [12:36pm] smoothice: Reason: 13 at address: 0x00000000
21:08 <smoothice> [12:36pm] smoothice: 0xffff0003 in ?? ()
21:09 <smoothice> BabyBug: Can you help me?
21:09 <BabyBug> uhhh....You broke something =)
21:09 <smoothice> BabyBug: I just merged my branch with all the revisions of the mainline trunk
21:09 <smoothice> only like two days worht
21:09 <smoothice> worth
21:10 <BabyBug> Would now be a good time to tell you that i know absolutely nothing about computer programming?
21:12 <ct|kyle>  #google is your friend
21:13  * BabyBug doesn't understand why smoothice assumes she knows stuff O.o
21:14 <ct|kyle> BabyBug:  because you pretend to :P
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21:15 <BabyBug> hrmm i suppose there is that =D
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21:15 <smoothice> :/
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21:18 <smoothice> anyone?
21:18 <PinkTomato> smoothice: I don't think it works when you merge trunk to 0.2.8
21:18 <smoothice> I didn't merge trunk to 0.2.8
21:18 <smoothice> I merged trunk to trunk
21:18 <BabyBug> #google EXC_BAD_ACCESS, Could not access memory.
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21:18 <@armabot> BabyBug: Search took 0.24 seconds: problem stepping across an EXC_BAD_ACCESS in gdb: <http://lists.apple.com/archives/Xcode-users/2006/Mar/msg00059.html>; Work thread dies with signal EXC_BAD_ACCESS: <http://lists.apple.com/archives/Mt-smp/2006/Aug/msg00000.html>; #8692 (During start up invalid memory is accessed, crashes with ...: <http://trac.adiumx.com/ticket/8692>; Re: remote debugging (3 more messages)
21:18 <BabyBug> =)
21:19 <smoothice> :/
21:20 <smoothice> .g
21:20 <smoothice> #ping
21:20 <@armabot> pong
21:21 <smoothice> #google armagetron segmentation fault
21:21 <@armabot> smoothice: Search took 0.29 seconds: Armagetron (game) fails - Segmentation Fault - LinuxQuestions.org: <https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/fedora-35/armagetron-game-fails-segmentation-fault-210443/>; Bug #246159 in Armagetron Advanced: “Server browser rendering ...: <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/246159>; Armagetron (game) won't run [Archive] - FedoraForum.org: (3 more messages)
21:21 <PinkTomato> oddly the first two are for Apple Macs
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21:21 <PinkTomato> You wouldn't find anything useful with that, segmentation faults happen a lot in arma
21:21 <PinkTomato> and have completely different fixes
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21:22 <PinkTomato> to fix them I think you use GDB like I'm told to and then the developers he read the gobble-de-gook that comes out
21:22 <smoothice> what even is a segmentation faukt?
21:24 <PinkTomato> Can compile, correct syntax, but the code makes it do something impossible?
21:25 <smoothice> yeah
21:25 <PinkTomato> maybe you missed a revision
21:25 <smoothice> I did bzr merge
21:26 <smoothice> bzr merge lp:armagetronad
21:26 <PinkTomato> because you essentally have trunk files?
21:26 <smoothice> yeah
21:26 <smoothice> I merged trunk
21:26 <smoothice> with trunk
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21:26 <Lizmatic> gay internet
21:27 <PinkTomato> I always used -R with merge
21:27 <smoothice> -R?
21:27 <PinkTomato> Yeah, entered the revisions I wanted to merge to the current thing
21:27 <smoothice> but
21:27 <smoothice> shoulok
21:28 <smoothice> shouldn't
21:28 <smoothice> Bzr merge work?
21:28 <ct|kyle> bzr up
21:28 <ct|kyle> #bzr
21:28 <@armabot> bzr co lp:armagetronad (for trunk) bzr co lp:armagetronad/0.2.8 (for 0.2.8) (bzr >= 1.4)
21:28 <smoothice> ???
21:29 <smoothice> yeah
21:29 <smoothice> I branched trunk
21:29 <smoothice> I made a change
21:29 <smoothice> pushed it to my branch
21:29 <smoothice> and now
21:29 <smoothice> I want to merge with mainline
21:33 <smoothice> #bzr
21:33 <@armabot> bzr co lp:armagetronad (for trunk) bzr co lp:armagetronad/0.2.8 (for 0.2.8) (bzr >= 1.4)
21:34 <ct|kyle> oh
21:35 <ct|kyle> you start with the trunk then merge your branch into it
21:37 <smoothice> yeah
21:37 <smoothice> that's what I did
21:37 <ct|kyle> did it have errors
21:38 <ct|kyle> files that could not be merged?
21:38 <smoothice> nope
21:38 <smoothice> no compiler or merge errors
21:41 <smoothice> ct|kyle: any ideas? Any other reports or latest trunk faults?
21:41 <PinkTomato> what about if you just bzr co trunk?
21:41 <PinkTomato> in a new directory
21:43 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: bzr branch lp:armagetronad   then bzr merge <your stuff>
21:43 <z-man> ct|kyle: how?
21:44 <ct|kyle> z-man: network errors
21:44 <z-man> In the leaked Windows 7 Beta?
21:44 <ct|kyle> yes
21:45 <z-man> Uninformed guess: They're fixable.
21:45 <ct|kyle> i wonder if custom connect works, i'll have to try it before i remove it
21:46 <smoothice> Windows 7 breaks armagetron?
21:47 <ct|kyle> smoothice: yes, well at least master server communication
21:47 <smoothice> ct|kyle: oh
21:48 <ct|kyle> z-man: ya it is just communication with master servers
21:49 <ct|kyle> i can custom connect to CTWF
21:49 <z-man> It may be the DNS lookups.
21:50 <ct|kyle> from what i saw of the message it looked like the actual communication
21:52 <ct|kyle> z-man: I can tell it is windows, does different stuff each time, this time it said found 123 servers then crashed
21:55 <ct|kyle> z-man: maybe it does work, it said not responding for 2 minutes then come up, But i did get an error 1 of the times i connected
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22:10 <smoothice> ct|kyle: how do I erase all the stuff in my branch so that I can push the newest stuff without merging and stuff
22:13 <SageLord> :D
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22:46 <SageLord> fortress brawl sign ups close today...  be sure to register if you plan on playing.  :)
22:47 <BabyBug> when is that?
22:47 <smoothice> &dns smootharma.homelinux.com
22:47 <smoothice2> smoothice: Error: "dns" is not a valid command.
22:47 <BabyBug> nvm
22:48 <smoothice> &google armagetron segmentation fault
22:48 <smoothice2> smoothice: Error: "google" is not a valid command.
22:49 <BabyBug> ok why bring a bot in here...seriously...
22:50 <smoothice> lol
22:51 <smoothice> tronner is missing
22:51 <smoothice> For the time being
22:51 <smoothice> &whois smootharma.homelinux.com
22:51 <smoothice2> smoothice: Error: "whois" is not a valid command.
22:51 <BabyBug> i thought tronner got banned?
22:51 <smoothice> no someone took it down
22:51 <BabyBug> Well it's still in #crazy-tronners
22:52 <BabyBug> and #armagetron.tourneys
22:52 <BabyBug> most of the bots got banned from here (they all do the same thing) ><
22:54 <smoothice> why it is in #crazy-tronners
22:54 <smoothice> ???
22:55 <smoothice> #dns smootharma.homelinux.com
22:55 <@armabot> Host not found.
22:55 <PinkTomato> because it's CT/P4's bot
22:55 <smoothice> But then why isn't it here?
22:55 <PinkTomato> forgot to rejoin I gues
22:57 <smoothice> yeah
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23:12 <SageLord> BabyBug:  The tournament is January 18th
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23:34 <@armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r8706 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/index.php: escape <>&'" in all fields of the releases table
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