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Log from 2008-12-01:
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00:48 <K-Yo> #later tell G5 Yes, second semi is over ^^
00:48 <armabot> K-Yo: The operation succeeded.
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00:58 <Monkey_arma> #later tell K-Yo What do you mean the second semi is over???? At least I have the final to look forward to...
00:58 <armabot> Monkey_arma: The operation succeeded.
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01:19 <madmax> Monkey_arma: want to play some bwin.com for me?
01:19 <Monkey_arma> what is that?
01:19 <Monkey_arma> hah
01:19 <Monkey_arma> :P
01:19 <Monkey_arma> yeah i did guess right 2 out of 2
01:19 <BabyBug> .tea
01:19 <tronner> BabyBug: Fortress Café - Ct's  Clone: Players (0/32):
01:20 <BabyBug> .ctwf
01:20 <tronner> BabyBug: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: Players (2/14): 'Xandir, e/\/xDr
01:20 <BabyBug> .ctos
01:20 <tronner> BabyBug: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo: Players (0/12):
01:20 <Monkey_arma> If i get it right in Ladle 17, i think its time to turn pro...
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01:30  * madmax highly advises the Mushroom Jazz albums
01:31 <madmax> </random>
01:31  * BabyBug highly advises madmax sorts out his issues
01:31 <madmax> :(
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01:55 <akira_arma> ...
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06:58 <noob13> good morning #armagetron!
06:59 <luke-jr> NO
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07:27 <teabot> tstnews: DurkLord & SageKa win the TST 2008.11
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13:42 <freako5> :)
13:42 <epsy> not here for long
13:42 <freako5> ah, just a little question
13:43 <freako5> how does an sumo tournament sound.. just normal 1 vs 1 vs 1 vs 1
13:44 <epsy> more 1v1v1v1v1v1v1v1
13:44 <epsy> or*
13:44 <freako5> ah said it wrong
13:44 <freako5> I mean 2 zones.. of  1vs1vs1vs1
13:44 <epsy> yeah
13:45 <freako5> with 8 people per server we need less of them :)
13:45 <epsy> there
13:45 <epsy> there's 8 people per server in TST
13:45 <freako5> mmm... so its doable with 4/5 servers
13:46 <epsy> ^^
13:46 <epsy> bbl
13:46 <freako5> ;)
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20:22 <freako5> hey, I have an question for you guys :)
20:23 <freako5> Is it possible to assign a certain spawn point to a player? on sumo?
20:26 <K-Yo> freako5, to a player?
20:26 <K-Yo> freako5, what player?
20:26 <K-Yo> how would you chose him?
20:26 <freako5> I mean is there a way, with armahacktron for example
20:27 <freako5> that the player with number *1*
20:27 <freako5> will always start at spawnpoint 1?
20:27 <freako5> without rotating
20:32 <freako5> K-Yo: We already got to the point, that it will be servers with 2 zones of 1vs1vs1vs1
20:32 <K-Yo> hmm
20:32 <K-Yo> with armahacktron probably, let me chack
20:33 <freako5> and I guess its not possible to let people rotate in their own zone?
20:33 <freako5> if the zones get divided by walls
20:33 <hang3r> wtf is armahacktron
20:34 <freako5> arma+many add-ons
20:34 <freako5> like sty and new zone-systems
20:34 <hang3r> So some kind of fork?
20:34 <freako5> fork?
20:35 <hang3r> nvm
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20:35 <K-Yo> freako5, atm, players are placed according to their scores right?
20:35 <freako5> yes, and we dont want that... because lower-rated players get advantage then
20:35 <K-Yo> true
20:36 <freako5> and we need 8 people per server (4/5servers) instead of 4 people per server (8 servers/or 2 days)
20:36 <K-Yo> I see
20:36 <K-Yo> well
20:36 <K-Yo> on map making, you decide spawn points per team?
20:36 <K-Yo> (I'm a noob at maps :P)
20:37 <freako5> uhm... the spawn points are random I always thought.
20:37 <freako5> only not for sumo
20:38 <freako5> This is rather hard....
20:38 <K-Yo> freako5, actually, they are not
20:38 <K-Yo> freako5, you play on ctwf sometimes?
20:38 <freako5> hardly ;)
20:38 <K-Yo> :P
20:39 <K-Yo> let me find the map i'm thinking about
20:39 <freako5> the 7 sumo-s map?
20:40 <freako5> Let me explain the map thats needed:             2 Zones of 1vs1vs1vs1   - that the teams only rotate/or not rotate in their own zone
20:41 <K-Yo> freako5, yes
20:41 <K-Yo> freako5, so, you'll have 8 teams of 1 player
20:41 <freako5> yes
20:41 <K-Yo> aah
20:41 <K-Yo> but maybe the 7 sumos are not like I think
20:41 <freako5> ah :/
20:41 <K-Yo> no, no, wrong Idea
20:42 <K-Yo> I think it's just that spawn_points are widely separated
20:42 <K-Yo> i'll look the code
20:42 <freako5> I can always stalk z-man :p
20:43 <K-Yo> freako5, yeah, only 2 spaw points :P
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20:43 <K-Yo> freako5, why zman?
20:43 <freako5> I can always stalk him, to make it ;)
20:43 <freako5> xD
20:43 <K-Yo> hehe
20:44 <freako5> so does that mean its possible atm or not?
20:44 <K-Yo> I doubt it
20:44 <K-Yo> P4, booh
20:44 <K-Yo> he'll know better
20:44 <freako5> mmmm.... whose the spawn point expert here
20:45 <freako5> zmanuel: question for u :)
20:45 <freako5> zmanuel: Do u know if its possible to create a sumo-map
20:45 <zmanuel> No, it's a hack, don't ask!
20:45 <freako5> haha ;)
20:45 <freako5> mmm... so it isn't possible without hacking...
20:46 <zmanuel> Depends on what you want.
20:48 <freako5> Were trying to make a sumo map for a new tourney, and every server should have 8 players in total
20:48 <freako5> 2 zones, of 1vs1vs1vs1
20:48 <freako5> With the current sumo system, It will advantage the lower-ranked player.... because they will get in the noob*-zone
20:49 <guru3> epsy: ive turned off my tst server
20:49 <freako5> So we need to assign 1 zone to 4 players (both zones) And those 4 players may only play in that zone
20:50 <freako5> it doesnt matter the players rotate or not though
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20:50 <zmanuel> well, just distribute the spawnpoints randomly
20:51 <zmanuel> spawn 1 goes to zone 1, spawn 2 to zone 2, spawn 3 to zone 1 again, and so on.
20:51 <zmanuel> Ok, not really random :)
20:51 <zmanuel> As long as you're guaranteed to have 8 players, they'll always get mixed up.
20:52 <zmanuel> and if there's less than 8 players, the holes will split evenly.
20:52 <zmanuel> So at 4 players, you get two zones with a duel in each.
20:53 <zmanuel> And if you want to disable vulturing into the other zone, make a wall between them.
20:57 <freako5> aha :), it should work... but it still would be fucked when someone doesnt show
20:57 <freako5> :(
20:58 <epsy> [20:51] <zmanuel>: and if there's less than 8 players, the holes will split evenly.
21:00 <freako5> What does  *the holes will split evenly* mean?
21:00 <epsy> well, 7 players, 8th spot jumps out
21:00 <epsy> 4-3 players
21:00 <epsy> 6 players, 7th and 8th jump out
21:00 <epsy> 3-3 players
21:00 <epsy> etc
21:00 <epsy> now the problem is with two players
21:01 <epsy> unless zmanuel has a hack for that, too
21:02 <freako5> Seems it can only be random then- only random always gives advantage/disadvantage
21:02 <epsy> spawning is not random
21:03 <freako5> I know, but the players place in the rankings will give it a random spot mostly
21:03 <epsy> not really no
21:03 <freako5> vs random players
21:04 <freako5> It looks random, (it isnt I know) but it-s more fair then the current system
21:04 <epsy> I doubt it
21:04 <freako5> I mean for a tourney,.
21:04 <epsy> the same noobs will be constantly beaten and wont ever get a fight of their level of skill
21:05 <freako5> thats the point of an tourney,, if u don't have the skills to win from someone else. U will be beaten
21:06 <freako5> and, relying on hacked servers wouldnt work either, because getting 4/5 hackers servers is hard
21:07 <K-Yo> freako5, ct|kyle said (we can somewhat do that)
21:07 <freako5> offtopic: k-yo welcome to twg3 ;)
21:08 <K-Yo> freako5, thx ;)
21:08 <K-Yo> freako5, started yet?
21:08 <freako5> not yet.. I guess we need a few more.. but it sounds like fun :)
21:09 <freako5> but it needs armahacktron servers?
21:13 <freako5> mmm... internet is getting updated again (damned dutch internet / although it gets fast again :))
21:13 <epsy> it's the intertubes 3.0 ?
21:13 <freako5> so I g2g, I'll ask ya later k-yo
21:14 <freako5> it's the intertubes 3.0 ?    - ?
21:14 <epsy> [21:12] <freako5>: mmm... internet is getting updated again (damned dutch internet / although it gets fast again :))
21:14 <K-Yo> okay
21:15 <K-Yo> freako5, yes, the server will need armahacktron I think
21:15 <freako5> Many dutch-internet providers are merging, so much people get their internet speeds (dl/upload speeds changed
21:15 <K-Yo> freako5, forget it, the command just reverses the order (from lower to better instead of better to lower)
21:16 <epsy> and the prices, too, I guess :P
21:16 <freako5> aha,,, to bad :(
21:16 <freako5> we are lucky, :) mine is getting faster for the same money ;)
21:17 <epsy> nice
21:17 <epsy> how much?
21:17 <freako5> uhm     download: 15 Mbit/s   upload: 1.5 Mbit/s
21:17 <epsy> eh
21:18 <freako5> lets search for the price (although I don't pay it)
21:19 <freako5> mmm... around 30 euro-s per month (were in a high priced city)
21:20 <epsy> noramlly it would be how much euros otherwise?
21:21 <epsy> for €30 i currently have 28mb up 1mb down; soon 100mb 50mb down :o
21:22 <freako5> mbit?
21:22 <epsy> yeah
21:22 <epsy> not milli
21:23 <freako5> 50 mb down... that like 6 megabyte per second download speed :O
21:24 <freako5> ur near paris? because I heard internet was crazy cheap there
21:24 <epsy> I meant 100Mb down 50Mb up
21:24 <freako5> a 100mbit home connection, mm nice
21:24 <epsy> brb
21:24 <freako5> bbl ;) cya
21:25 <freako5> if need to get off before 21.30 :/
21:25 <freako5> ;)
21:25 <luke-jr> freako5: what?
21:25 <luke-jr> 100 mbit home connections are standard outside the USA
21:25 <luke-jr> heck, Korea has gigabit home connections standard
21:26 <freako5> 100mb isnt that uhm 12.5 megabyte/s download speed?
21:26 <madmax> 100mbit sure isn't standard around here
21:27 <BabyBug> or here!
21:27 <freako5> were much lower I guess
21:27 <BabyBug> that's 100 times faster than my internet!!
21:27 <freako5> haha :)
21:27  * freako5 finally knows why Koreans and Japanese people always pwn at gaming
21:29 <freako5> but im off, my internet gets cut right now, brb
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21:30 <TaZ> Hello friends! and lucifer and epsy.
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21:35 <Monkey_arma> hi taz
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21:36 <TaZ> Hiya Monkey
21:36 <TaZ> Monkey_arma, what's ari got against you?
21:36 <Monkey_arma> his testicles
21:37 <TaZ> ahahaha
21:37 <epsy> TaZ, you should ask what I have against him
21:37 <epsy> it will probably be funny..
21:38 <TaZ> What would he have against you epsy?
21:38 <epsy> gah, idiot
21:38 <epsy> he's ignoring me, not you
21:38 <TaZ> =D
21:39 <epsy> also, I said what _I_ had against him, not what he has against me
21:40 <TaZ> An upside fown T, epsy?
21:40 <TaZ> down*
21:40 <epsy> no, an emphasised I
21:41 <TaZ> I'm sorry epsy, but I do not do cocaine.
21:41 <epsy> You seem like
21:41 <TaZ> =0
21:41 <TaZ> I am a saint epsy.
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21:55 <K-Yo> no, you are TaZ
21:56 <K-Yo> I can read
21:57 <TaZ> Congrats to you K-Yo for being able to read.
21:57 <K-Yo> TaZ, thanks ^
21:57 <TaZ> :D
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22:04 <TaZ> .California Pinktomato
22:05 <PinkTomato> ? Hi TaZ :)
22:05 <TaZ> hehe hi
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22:32 <K-Yo> .help California
22:32 <TaZ> the bot is not here.
22:33 <K-Yo> indeed
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07:05 <armabot> hang3r: On #armagetron there have been 758758 messages, containing 26672782 characters, 4704076 words, 43795 smileys, and 22533 frowns; 18160 of those messages were ACTIONs.  There have been 43531 joins, 3410 parts, 39344 quits, 326 kicks, 1069 mode changes, and 55 topic changes.
07:07 <hang3r> #Quote
07:07 <hang3r> #Quote hang3r
07:07 <hang3r> #insult hang3r
07:07 <armabot> hang3r - You are nothing but a full-gorged heap of warped piss.
07:08 <hang3r> :(
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10:26 <devin_> su
10:26 <devin_> sup*
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14:50 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8612 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/tools/tString.cpp): Manuel Moos: Fixed crash in string search (triggered, for example, with friend search in the server browser).
14:50 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8613 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/eTeam.cpp): Manuel Moos: Better distinction between green and gold.
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15:29 <freako5> :)
15:37 <Durka> hey freako5
15:37 <Durka> ct|kyle: u here?
15:37 <ct|kyle> oi Durka
15:37 <Durka> freako5: u too
15:38 <ct|kyle> .randserver2 z-man,ct,luke,ww
15:38 <tronner> ct|kyle: Server 1: ct, Server 2: ww, Server 3: luke, Server 4: z-man, Final Server: z-man, Third place Server: luke
15:38 <ct|kyle> :P
15:38 <Durka> ok so kyle
15:38 <Durka> can we do this 2maro at this time
15:38 <Durka> like 9 30 est?
15:38 <ct|kyle> ya, should be fine with me
15:38 <Durka> ok
15:39 <ct|kyle> do it in here so we have a log to back it up
15:39 <Durka> u can by the witness :O
15:39 <Durka> ya
15:39 <Durka> er u can do the rand server i call rand team
15:39 <Durka> :p
15:39 <Durka> .randteam kyle,sux,lol.durka.pwnz.u
15:39 <ct|kyle> ok
15:39 <Durka> oO
15:40 <ct|kyle> .randomteam kyle,sux,lol.durka.pwnz.u
15:40 <Durka> what t3h command?
15:40 <tronner> ct|kyle: Team 1: kyle, Team 2: sux, Team 3: lol.durka.pwnz.u,
15:40 <Durka> haha
15:40 <Durka> ok
15:40 <ct|kyle> .randomteam kyle,sux,lol.durka.pwnz.u
15:40 <tronner> ct|kyle: Team 1: kyle, Team 2: sux, Team 3: lol.durka.pwnz.u,
15:40 <ct|kyle> o0
15:40 <Durka> er its not random? :O
15:40 <ct|kyle> .randomteam kyle,sux,lol,durka,pwnz,u
15:40 <tronner> ct|kyle: Team 1: u, Team 2: kyle, Team 3: durka, Team 4: lol, Team 5: pwnz, Team 6: sux,
15:41 <ct|kyle> there it is
15:41 <Durka> :D
15:41 <Durka> #roulette
15:41 <ct|kyle> to few of teams to change much i guess
15:41 <armabot> Durka: *click*
15:41 <ct|kyle> .r
15:41 <Durka> .roulette
15:41 <tronner> ct|kyle: *click*
15:41 <tronner> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
15:41  * tronner reloads and spins the chambers.
15:41 <Durka> .r
15:41 <tronner> Durka: *click*
15:41 <Durka> .r
15:41 <tronner> Durka: *click*
15:41 <Durka> .r
15:41  * tronner reloads and spins the chambers.
15:41 <tronner> Durka: *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
15:41 <Durka> :X
15:41 <freako5> hehe durka
15:41 <Durka> freako5: be here 2maro :)
15:41 <Durka> 9 30 est
15:41 <Durka> so thats
15:42 <Durka> 1430 GMT
15:42 <freako5> were picking servers?
15:42 <ct|kyle> are we having a luke-jr server though?
15:42 <freako5> can we trust luke-jr :)
15:42 <Durka> ask him
15:42 <Durka> if not luke-jr it can be the republik server
15:42 <Durka> that was a very nice one for the TST
15:42 <freako5> so that annoying extra match system is up?
15:43 <ct|kyle> we'll do randserver2 ww,ct1,z-man,(otherUS or else CT2)
15:44 <freako5> .randomteam I,Still,Hate,It
15:44 <tronner> freako5: Team 1: I, Team 2: Hate, Team 3: It, Team 4: Still,
15:44 <freako5> lol
15:44 <ct|kyle> anyway i gtg
15:44 <freako5> cya ;)
15:44 <freako5> So durka that extra match system is up now?
15:45 <Durka> yea
15:45 <Durka> theres only 9 teams now tho..
15:45 <freako5> blah, I personally don't like it
15:45 <freako5> To bad my idea costs to much time :(
15:46 <freako5> and... have U though already... about 2 european teams ending up at WW?
15:47 <freako5> or 2 USA teams on z-mans... lagfest ftw
15:48 <Durka> freako
15:48 <freako5> I personally would hate it when for example the finals are played on WW between 2 european teams.... (durka)
15:48 <Durka> i've hated having to play nearly every round of the last 16 ladles in euro servers
15:48 <Durka> so suck it up
15:48 <Durka> if your team is really the best team
15:48 <Durka> you will win no matter the server
15:48 <freako5> I don't need to suck it up, I'm not playing the ladle anymore...
15:49 <freako5> Im out of it
15:50 <Durka> :O
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15:50 <freako5> getting to complicated for me,
15:51 <freako5> and to annoying :)
15:52 <freako5> but, then I can still talk for people that are playing... Can't there be some system,   wich picks a server for the final
15:52 <Durka> play with us
15:52 <Durka> :P
15:52 <freako5> and when its USA VS EU it is that server
15:52 <freako5> and when its EU vs EU its Z-mans      / abd USA vs USA its ww(or whateva
15:54 <freako5> and why the hell should I play on a team with 12 players on the roster ;)
16:08  * Monkey_arma hands freako a fucking violin
16:09  * freako5 doesn't get the point of that :/
16:15 <Durka> freako we wont have 8 probably
16:15 <Durka> well maybe
16:15 <Durka> me curb goodz sage corn weed jj
16:15 <Durka> thats like 7
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16:28 <freako5> damned durka,, always leaves when u want to react.
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17:13 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: ?
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17:17 <qRt-mike-huePn> ih
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17:39 <Monkey_arma> freako5: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081108102118AATOoUT
17:41 <freako5> ah. monkey im not feeling sorry for myself ...
17:41 <freako5> I rejected durka like 5x already......
17:42  * freako5 should get him a violin
17:44 <freako5> ah monkey why dont u join twg?
17:44 <Monkey_arma> *no thank you very much(
17:44 <freako5> ur the perfect person for it ;)
17:44 <Monkey_arma> (it's boring)
17:44 <Monkey_arma> btw, i meant you're feeling sorry for yourself about KOD, not Durka's team.
17:45 <freako5> about kod? i left it... because I don't like the recruiting
17:46 <freako5> if u want to hear that... :)
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18:06 <Monkey_arma> i know, you told me
18:07 <Monkey_arma> and you are feeling sorry for yourself about it :P
18:08 <freako5> Im not.. because I always could have gone back... because I didn't tell the real reason... ;)
18:08 <freako5> but now I'm not going to return for sure.so I can tell now
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18:44 <_TaZ_> Hey
18:45 <sinewav> Hay
18:45 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: would you mind putting up a server for the ladle on sunday, Dec 7
18:45 <_TaZ_> Hey sine.wav
18:45 <_TaZ_> sinewav*
18:45 <ct|kyle> oi sinewav
18:46 <sinewav> Hey luke, I'll pay for it if you want.
18:46 <_TaZ_> Sinewav, have you thought about anything for the server I was talking about the other day yet?
18:47 <ct|kyle> it should have more than 16 slots for the rest of the team to watch
18:48 <freako5> 24 should be enough? I thought they have a lot of subs
18:48 <freako5> everyone*
18:48 <ct|kyle> that is what i was going to say 24
18:48 <ct|kyle> .si ladle fort
18:48 <freako5> ah ;)
18:48 <tronner> ct|kyle: Crazy Tronners Ladle Fortress 1: Players (0/26):
18:49 <ct|kyle> 26 must be in the config
18:49 <_TaZ_> .California sinewav
18:49 <tronner> sinewav is known to the state of California to causes Cancer
18:49 <sinewav> :o
18:49 <_TaZ_> .help California
18:49 <tronner> _TaZ_: (california <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo @1 is known to the state of California to causes Cancer".
18:53 <freako5> .randteam I,wonder,if,there,is,a,max,of,teams,that,can,be,shuffle,with,this
18:54 <freako5> .randomteam I,wonder,if,there,is,a,max,of,teams,that,can,be,shuffle,with,this
18:54 <tronner> freako5: Team 1: a, Team 2: I, Team 3: of, Team 4: if, Team 5: can, Team 6: be, Team 7: wonder, Team 8: shuffle, Team 9: max, Team 10: with, Team 11: there, Team 12: is, Team 13: that, Team 14: teams, Team 15: this,
18:55 <_TaZ_> .randomteam Who,can,say,if,there,is
18:55 <tronner> _TaZ_: Team 1: can, Team 2: Who, Team 3: if, Team 4: there, Team 5: say, Team 6: is,
18:56 <ct|kyle> .randomteam I,wonder,if,there,is,a,max,of,teams,that,can,be,shuffle,with,this
18:56 <tronner> ct|kyle: Team 1: there, Team 2: teams, Team 3: that, Team 4: is, Team 5: I, Team 6: wonder, Team 7: with, Team 8: of, Team 9: max, Team 10: can, Team 11: be, Team 12: shuffle, Team 13: if, Team 14: this, Team 15: a,
18:56 <ct|kyle> freako5: nope
18:56 <freako5> i guess there isnt,,,\
18:56 <freako5> lets do the last test then
18:56 <ct|kyle> .randomteam hi
18:56 <tronner> ct|kyle: Team 1: hi,
18:57 <ct|kyle> .randomteam 12,24
18:57 <tronner> ct|kyle: Team 1: 24, Team 2: 12,
18:57 <freako5> .randomteam a,q,w,e,r,t,y,u,i,o,p,l,k,j,h,g,f,d,s,a,z,x,c,v,b,n,
18:57 <tronner> freako5: Team 1: d, Team 2: k, Team 3: n, Team 4: i, Team 5: u, Team 6: a, Team 7: e, Team 8: t, Team 9: l, Team 10: f, Team 11: b, Team 12: x, Team 13: j, Team 14: y, Team 15: a, Team 16: p, Team 17: c, Team 18: g, Team 19: , Team 20: s, Team 21: v, Team 22: h, Team 23: q, Team 24: r, Team 25: z, Team 26: w, Team 27: o,
18:57 <freako5> yup
18:57 <_TaZ_> mhmm
18:58 <ct|kyle> you put a comma at the end it is going to coulnt that last char
18:58 <ct|kyle> count*
18:58 <ct|kyle> maybe i should make sure the data is not = ""
18:58 <ct|kyle> when trimmed
18:58 <ct|kyle> .randomteam ,,,,,,,,,
18:58 <tronner> ct|kyle: Team 1: , Team 2: , Team 3: , Team 4: , Team 5: , Team 6: , Team 7: , Team 8: , Team 9: , Team 10: ,
18:59 <ct|kyle> :P
18:59 <freako5> lol :P
19:00 <ct|kyle> .randserver ct1,ct2,z-man,ww
19:00 <ct|kyle> .randserver2 ct1,ct2,z-man,ww
19:00 <tronner> ct|kyle: Server 1: ct2, Server 2: z-man, Server 3: ww, Server 4: ct1, Final Server: z-man, Third place Server: ct1
19:00 <ct|kyle> not bad for a 20 minute code or something like that
19:01 <K-Yo> ct|kyle, we can still not change max_clients from the outside?
19:01 <K-Yo> that would be great...
19:01 <ct|kyle> yes K-Yo
19:01 <ct|kyle> our server supports up to 32
19:01 <K-Yo> ct|kyle, yes?
19:01 <K-Yo> yes we can?
19:01 <K-Yo> (:P)
19:02 <ct|kyle> epsy: ping
19:03 <_TaZ_> ct|kyle
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19:06 <_TaZ_> .California .California
19:06 <tronner> .California is known to the state of California to causes Cancer
19:06 <_TaZ_> Thats all I know
19:13 <epsy> ct|kyle,
19:13 <ct|kyle> epsy: does the latest Bazzar revision work?
19:14 <epsy> not with zthread on
19:14 <epsy> well, let's see
19:14 <epsy> I might have a clue of what's happening
19:15 <epsy> yeah
19:20 <epsy> blah
19:23 <epsy> there we go
19:24 <epsy> finally after two months the fucking 0.2.8 branch is fucking compiling..
19:25 <epsy> committed
19:25 <epsy> r911
19:25 <epsy> man, that's the second time I commit r911
19:25 <epsy> bad sign
19:28 <epsy> god I really have such a spam of .~n~ files..
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19:35  * BabyBug wuddles epsy 
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19:38 <epsy> BabyBug: typo?
19:38 <BabyBug> epsy, newp
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19:57 <_TaZ_> Wrtlprnft, I choose you!
19:58 <epsy> wrtlprnft: you have been chosen.
19:58 <ct|kyle> _TaZ_: how did that selection happen?
19:59 <epsy> ct|kyle, everything's ok?
20:00 <_TaZ_> ct|kyle, are you ok?
20:00 <epsy> kss, i didn't say that
20:01 <ct|kyle> epsy: so i can upgrade our ladle servers to r911 (latest)
20:01 <epsy> r912
20:01 <ct|kyle> ok
20:03 <epsy> that's the second time I commit r912 on 0.2.8 ! :(
20:03 <ct|kyle> (13:25:38) epsy: r911
20:03 <ct|kyle> (13:25:52) epsy: man, that's the second time I commit r911
20:03 <ct|kyle> lol
20:04 <epsy> yes, this applies to both
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20:21 <epsy> wow this is a luciferemote
20:24 <ct|kyle> i thought that was called Lucifer_pen (or something like that)
20:25 <epsy> oh yeah so it's Lucifer controlled by a remote pen!
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20:34 <K-Yo> well
20:34 <K-Yo> it *was*
20:39 <ct|kyle> #bzr
20:39 <armabot> bzr co lp:armagetronad (for trunk) bzr co lp:armagetronad/0.2.8 (for 0.2.8 trunk) (bzr >= 1.0)
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20:56 <epsy> hrm...eEvent vs nDescriptor..what would be the actual difference?
20:56 <epsy> I guess there's none really
20:56 <epsy> except one's meant for extensibility and the other not
20:57 <epsy> I mean what's the difference in what they are trying to achieve
20:57 <epsy> I start to think there's none, and that one should be said bye to
20:58 <epsy> because having two things that do the same stuff will be just confusing
20:58 <epsy> ..meh
21:00 <epsy> okay, I start to get a plan in my head
21:01 <epsy> old ways for controlling stuff and eEvents to tell what's happening?
21:02 <epsy> what if one wants to add something that will send a message of a new kind to the server?
21:03 <epsy> this makes no sense
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21:04 <epsy> hm; you may want to read logs - or not
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21:20 <_TaZ_> ok
21:28 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8614 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/network/nAuthentication.cpp): epsy: fixed compilation errors with zthread on
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21:30 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8615 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/ePlayer.cpp): epsy: fixed bug 303239
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21:43 <epsy> ok, rh, 3 of my keys have sopped workn
21:43 <epsy> or wf s hs
21:43 <epsy> holy crap
21:43 <BabyBug> O.o
21:44 <epsy> les hope a reboo wll work
21:44 <noob13> heh
21:44 <epsy> shf an workn eher
21:44 <epsy> fu BS keyboard
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21:45 <noob13> at least f and u seemed to work
21:45 <noob13> what else do you need?
21:45 <BabyBug> < and 3
21:45 <BabyBug> <3
21:46 <noob13> that thing always makes me think of ice cream..
21:46 <noob13> or the rear end of a well shaped female being
21:47 <BabyBug> ...
21:47 <noob13> is it a heart? aww...
21:47 <BabyBug> yes!
21:48 <_TaZ_> "or the rear end of a well shaped female being"...lol
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21:59 <epsy> well, at least the keyboard4s working
21:59 <epsy> only if I could get my xmodmaps to work on ttys :)
22:07 <epsy> so now, let's chroot some
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22:12 <epsy> right, let's hope saying bai to entranced works :(
22:12 <epsy> does irssi have a reboot command?
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22:15 <epsy> goddamn xorg
22:15 <epsy> no it4s not entrance
22:20 -!- emmy_arma [n=peiaeman@pc232133.static.is.airbites.ro] has joined #armagetron
22:25 <Monkey_arma> (.)(.)
22:25 <Monkey_arma> )(
22:25 <Monkey_arma>  
22:25 <Monkey_arma>  
22:25 <Monkey_arma> (.)(.)
22:25 <Monkey_arma>    )(
22:25 <Monkey_arma> ffs
22:25 <Monkey_arma>  
22:25 <Monkey_arma>  
22:27 <Monkey_arma>    )(
22:27 <Monkey_arma> (.)(.)
22:27 <Monkey_arma>   )(
22:27 <Monkey_arma>  (  )
22:27 <Monkey_arma> haha
22:27 <Monkey_arma> i give up
22:29 <zmanuel> epsy: have you done anything about the duplicate ladder entries ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+bug/251447 ) ?
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22:31 <Monkey_arma>   ||
22:31 <Monkey_arma> (.)(.)
22:31 <Monkey_arma>   )(
22:31 <Monkey_arma>  (##)
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22:31 <zmanuel> epsy_: have you done anything about the duplicate ladder entries ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+bug/251447 ) ?
22:32 <epsy_> perhaps I did
22:32 <epsy_> can4t check right now, X won't fire up without locking mouse & keyboard
22:33 <zmanuel> Heh :)
22:33 <zmanuel> Looks like you did.
22:33 <zmanuel> In the bug report, you say the fix would be to replace ->GetName with ->GetUserName
22:34 <zmanuel> And that has been done.
22:34 <zmanuel> And I'd agree that it would be a fix.
22:35 <epsy_> yeah, itfound it only one time and thought it couldn't be
22:35 <zmanuel> Although, GetLogName() may even be better.
22:36  * zmanuel thinks hard what the difference between the two is
22:36 <zmanuel> Oh, nothing :)
22:36  * zmanuel marks that bug as "Fix committed"
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22:39 <epsy_> do you have a clue about the botcount bug?
22:40 <zmanuel> which one is that?
22:40 <zmanuel> I only have three open bugs left.
22:40 <zmanuel> One display list bug (on the mac, oh joy)
22:41 <zmanuel> One odd wall bug that I though was fixed, but dhl commented on it today
22:41 <zmanuel> and the mysterious red team bug.
22:41 <freako5> And the sparks bug?
22:41 <zmanuel> That's 0.3.
22:42 <epsy_> zmanuel: the red team bug may be fixed already
22:42 <freako5> that brings me to the question, is there going to be an update to 0,3 ever?
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22:42 <epsy_> @g .............
22:42 <zmanuel> freako5: what for? There's no new serverside features in 0.3 anyway.
22:42 <epsy_> #google armagetronad bugs spectator enters bot
22:42 <armabot> epsy_: Search took 1.16 seconds: Bug #241593 in Armagetron Advanced: “ bot quits when spectator enters ”: <https://bugs.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+bug/241593>; Bugs in Armagetron Advanced: a Tron Clone in 3d: <https://bugs.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+bugs>; Bugs in Armagetron Advanced: a Tron Clone in 3d: <https://launchpad.net/armagetronad/+bugs>; Bugs in Armagetron Advanced: a Tron (3 more messages)
22:43 <epsy_> first message
22:43 <epsy_> err, result
22:43 -!- epsy_ is now known as epsy
22:43 <freako5> because 0.3 still got some nasty bugs and game freezes
22:43 <zmanuel> Well, don't use it. It's our development version.
22:44 <epsy> freako5: we're on the process of releasing a beta for, which has been delayed too much already
22:44 <zmanuel> or, alternatively, report problems properly (side sneer at Monkey_arma)
22:44 <epsy> 0.3 stuff can, and should wait
22:44 <epsy> can't help but agree
22:45 <zmanuel> Oh, that's an interesting bug, too. How did I miss it?
22:45 <Monkey_arma> zmanuel read my post that i am about to put up. It will tell you that I actually do report bugs as soon as I find them...but they just get left for months.
22:45 <epsy> zmanuel: speaking about bugs reported by monkey, BabyBug and I could finally reproduce it, and BabyBug was far more cooperative
22:45 <freako5> I got to agree with 2.8.1,  I guess we need to set up our own 0.3 team lol
22:45 <epsy> aaah that dear monkey, always saying he WILL do something
22:46 <freako5> don't rely on my reports though, they look like the ones from luke-jr
22:46 <epsy> freako5: expect stuff to move on trunk once .2.8.3 gets released :)
22:46 <zmanuel> as long as you don't write code :)
22:46 <epsy> zmanuel: I'm talking about that bug related with ftgl
22:47 <epsy> zmanuel: it's in the server browser, line width calculation
22:47 <zmanuel> ah, that 0.3 bug, well, I didn't pay attention to that. Sorry.
22:47 <epsy> well, that can wait
22:47 <freako5> ah ;),
22:47 <Monkey_arma> see!
22:48  * freako5 is still annoyed that his windows enviroment is not compiling arma properly
22:48 <epsy> noooo monkey, you're waaaaay off, it's like you get half what we're saying
22:49 <epsy> <insert complainings about autohell here>
22:49 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/turtle/capture/flagfort-0.1.4.aamap.xml: Resource by turtle
22:49 <zmanuel> Actually, cross compiling with autohell works amazingly well.
22:50 <zmanuel> I'm now using it for dedcon and dedwinia, makes deployment 300% faster.
22:50  * freako5 code blocks +addons ftl
22:50 <zmanuel> And debugging 500% more annoying.
22:50 <epsy> well, if you show me armagetron building on linux for windows i'd be convinced
22:51 <zmanuel> Complex dependencies are, of course, its weakness :)
22:51 <zmanuel> Mainly, you need to prepare the environment correctly.
22:51 <epsy> right now we have a blocking configure check script
22:51 <epsy> and we don't even know where it comes from
22:52 <zmanuel> set +x may help there.
22:52 <zmanuel> or -x?
22:53  * zmanuel always forgets
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22:55 <freako5> .randomteam ,,,,,,,
22:55 <tronner> freako5: Team 1: , Team 2: , Team 3: , Team 4: , Team 5: , Team 6: , Team 7: , Team 8: ,
22:55 <zmanuel> that's not very random.
22:56 <freako5> true ;)
22:56 <epsy> wait
22:56 <epsy> wtf
22:56 <epsy> teabot just reconnected ALONE?
22:57 <freako5> that would be... strange
22:57 <epsy> I thought it was a fucking baby who'd you need to clean out the shit every hour or so
22:57 <epsy> I'm happy if he goes to toilet alone
22:58 <freako5> Z-man do u mind if people work on the upgrading of chatbots?
22:58 <dlh> i thought chatbot was already upgraded?
22:58 <freako5> zmanuel: working on Joda-Bots original system?
22:59 <epsy> chatbot should be serverside, sooner or later
22:59 <freako5> the Mouse point system
22:59 <zmanuel> Huh? What?
22:59 <freako5> Joda-Bot was some time ago busy making a bot system
22:59 <epsy> now, that doesnt eliminate cheating(just dont go chatbot) but makes it harder
23:00 <freako5> That when u chat, U could use the mouse to control the bot.... Wherever u point, the bot goes
23:00 <epsy> like
23:00 <epsy> GO IN THE ENEMY ZONE! NOW!
23:01 <epsy> the bot takes some turns, heads at the middle, and does its badass midling trick
23:01 <epsy> boom
23:01 <dlh>  /admin teleport dlh -> ENEMY ZONE
23:01 <freako5> better then the current system,, the current chatbots use predictable moves
23:01 <epsy> now, wth is a guided chatbot for?
23:02 <freako5> ask joda. he started it
23:02 <freako5> I like it though
23:02 <epsy> isn't it supposed to be made for people that are doing something else than actually playing
23:02 <epsy> well, he maybe just wanted to have fun
23:02 <epsy> now, that's quite of a nonsense
23:02 <BabyBug> lol epsy
23:03 <epsy> no, freako5, seriousely? what is the chatbot for?
23:03  * BabyBug thinks it should be renamed
23:03 <epsy> for people that are chatting or going on the toilet or cooking cookies
23:03 <freako5> Can't I just have a bot.. thats smarter then me?
23:03 <epsy> not for having another way of controlling your bike
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23:04 <epsy> freako5: well, that's a cheat them
23:04 <epsy> then*
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23:04 <epsy> if you make an aimbot that misses all its shots
23:04 <freako5> Just like doublebind-time :)
23:04 <epsy> do you consider it as a cheat?
23:05 <freako5> nah, I just love useless add-ons
23:05 <epsy> freako5: that's two individual moves
23:05 <epsy> it takes brainpower to use them, each time you use them
23:05 <epsy> with a cheat, in my definition, it only takes brainpower when creating the cheat, and when launching it
23:06 <epsy> and if you want useless addons, well, code them yourself
23:07 <epsy> why the fuck would we want a pointer-driven chatbot? it defeats the purpose of the chatbot
23:07 <freako5> I asked if Z-man had something against it... Like he considered it as a cheat...
23:07 <epsy> I did not say it was a cheat
23:07 <epsy> I said it just does not belong to chatbot
23:07 <freako5> 'then I can still build it from Joda-s unfinished stuff
23:08 <freako5> I would love to control my bike without using buttons,
23:08 <epsy> ok, one thing I can tell, is that you're going to be really fucked when you will really need the chatbot ;)
23:08 <epsy> use the mouse
23:08 <epsy> use a trackpad
23:08 <epsy> use that crazy mindreading headset
23:08 <dlh> hmm, the chatbot is updated in 0.2.8. Looks a little smarter.
23:08 <freako5> mouse is to hard atm, the only player that was good with it
23:09 <freako5> was the old Vertigo
23:09 <epsy> whatever can be mapped to a key, or is recognized by SDL
23:10 <epsy> "Turn left! Turn right! Go that way! No! The other way!"
23:10 <freako5> dlh: smarter , like better? or less predictable?
23:10 <freako5> because the 0.3 bots are rather predictable
23:10 <epsy> if you dont want to be killed - dont chat
23:10 <dlh> the new bots have settings determined by the server.
23:11 <freako5> So no cheating away the chatbot icon anymore? :)
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23:12 <dlh> nah, that's still possible for anyone who wants to do it.
23:13 <freako5> just like doublebind time is an useless settings, everyone with an expensive keyboard, or 1 week pc knowledge can cheat it away
23:14  * freako5 guesses he goes bug hunting again.. found 3 on 0.3 already
23:14 <epsy> ask your mother to cheat it
23:14  * epsy caught himself trying to ctrl+alt+l
23:15 <freako5> My mum never uses an pc..... My dad will probably do it in 5 minutes
23:15 <freako5> crazy programmer guy :/
23:16 <freako5> and you dont even need programming knowledge for it.... :)
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23:18 <epsy> great, i have to get dbus and hal loaded before X11
23:18 <epsy> gah.....
23:19 <epsy> okai, babai
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23:22 <epsy> qwerty
23:22 <BabyBug> ytrewq
23:22 <PinkTomato> aoeuidhtns
23:22 <epsy> well at least it keeps me from writing weird smileys
23:23 -!- MaZuffeR [n=mazuffer@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has quit ["Ex-Chat"]
23:23 <epsy> blah
23:24 <epsy> ill load those config panels later
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23:28 <epsy> http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg_input_hotplugging#How_can_I_get_the_correct_keyboard_layout_.28keymap.29.3F_I_have_lost_arrow.2Fspecial_keys
23:28 <epsy> aha
23:28 <epsy> THANK YOU
23:28 <epsy> bleh
23:29 <PinkTomato> why would it change randomly anyway :)?
23:29 <epsy> the keyboard ;appingsM
23:29 <epsy> rhfikngsukhfnfv
23:30 <PinkTomato> ah. true to word that
23:33 <zmanuel> epsy: the weird player count bug was counting involuntary spectators with AUTO_TEAM 0 as players.
23:33 <zmanuel> It also allowed them to vote.
23:33 <epsy> gah, again that stupid thing with spectators
23:34 <zmanuel> Yeah, you get shit like that if you have monolithic classes with millions of logical states
23:34 <dlh> heh
23:34 <epsy> it's like, you have two groups of spectators
23:34 <epsy> those who never got a team
23:34 <epsy> and those who wanted to spectate
23:35 <zmanuel> Yeah :)
23:35 <epsy> that really needs some fixing someday
23:35 <zmanuel> Yeah. Well documented state query functions would be the way to go.
23:35 <zmanuel> And renaming stuff that no longer is appropriately named.
23:35 <epsy> yeah, this time, spec it before running in it
23:36 <epsy> did you read my monologue about eEvent and the current stuff? what do you think about it?
23:36 <zmanuel> where?
23:37 <Lizmatic> o_O
23:37 <epsy> right before you joined
23:37 <zmanuel> then, well, duh, no :)
23:37 <zmanuel> Remind me to read it as z-man-work
23:37 <epsy> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armalogs/log-2008-12-02.txt
23:37 <epsy> 20:56
23:38 <epsy> sum up: they were designed to do the same thing..well ..
23:39 <epsy> not exactly, that's clear
23:40 <zmanuel> What's eEvent?
23:40 <epsy> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=EEvent
23:40 <epsy> now, when I look back into the concept, it's way more than just telling the client what's going on
23:41 <zmanuel> Yeah, it's a generic way to pass around what's going on, also between arma systems
23:42 <BabyBug> .ls jenny
23:42 <epsy> it's 1/ a message "format" (and that conlicts with the old stuff, nDescriptors & nMessages ), 2/ a plugin hook/dehook API
23:42 <zmanuel> I say it has little overlap with nDescriptor :)
23:42 <tronner> BabyBug: timed out
23:42 <epsy> yeah
23:42 <epsy> now, where should that overlap stop
23:42 <epsy> that's the big concern
23:44 <zmanuel> It's no concern. the eEvent stuff is way too high level to be used as a nDescriptor replacement.
23:44 <epsy> say, a player dies
23:44 <zmanuel> nDescriptor is used at the very lowest network level.
23:44 <epsy> so there's going to be both a net object sync AND an eEvent being transmitted?
23:45 <epsy> worse..when a player turns(well who knows, maybe you want something to happen on your client whenever a player turns)
23:45 <zmanuel> I suppose so. There's only a single nDescriptor for syncs anyway.
23:46 <epsy> players turn very often
23:46 <epsy> and it already often gets laggy like this, runs against the default max out rate, and that's bad
23:46 <epsy> and that's going in the wrong direction
23:46 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8616 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/eVoter.cpp src/tron/gAIBase.cpp):
23:46 <armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
23:46 <armabot> armagetronad: Replaced checks whether a player is in game with ->CurrentTeam(), they
23:46 <armabot> armagetronad: were using IsSpectating(), which doesn't work with AUTO_TEAM 0.
23:47 <armabot> armagetronad: Fixes 241593.
23:47 <zmanuel> Then don't generate that eEvent on the server, do it on the client. Although that makes its own set of problems.
23:47 <zmanuel> Like, the client doesn't actually know when turns happened.
23:47 <epsy> yeah, that's what I'm thinking about
23:47 <zmanuel> Point is, it doesn't have to know to do its basic job.
23:48 <epsy> hm?
23:48 <zmanuel> it needs to render the cycles and walls in the correct places.
23:48 <epsy> making the renderer de-hookable is the least of my concerns heh
23:48 <zmanuel> currently, the server may decide to defer sending some walls if someone made crazy turns
23:49 <zmanuel> so it can send the current cycle position, but not where it was in between while it was mazing madly.
23:49 <zmanuel> Having a time ordered turn queue to work up would be a hindrance here.
23:52 <epsy> yeah...but..
23:53 <epsy> imagine you make something that records every eevent it gets(which is what I'm probably going to do)
23:53 <Lizmatic> night
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23:53 <epsy> wouldn't it be weird when playing it back, to not have any turns at all? :)
23:53 <epsy> hrm
23:56 <epsy> well, good night
23:56 <epsy> at least I got X working
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01:40 <hyaloidus> hahuhahahhuhahahuha
01:44 <hyaloidus> always dead here :)
01:45 <dlh> you just joined
01:45 <noob13> hi
01:46 <hyaloidus> no, i already joined with a different nickname
01:46 -!- hyaloidus is now known as mike_hueon
01:47 <mike_hueon> ih noob, i remember you on the grid
01:47 <noob13> are you _the_ mike_hueon??
01:48 <mike_hueon> why the...???
01:49 <mike_hueon> i am
01:50 <mike_hueon> the un-understood drawer
01:51 <noob13> heh..
01:51 <noob13> is that your name on the grid also?
01:51 <mike_hueon> sometimes
01:51 <mike_hueon> i can be barbie, and termanitor
01:52 <noob13> i see, how does that make you feel?
01:53 <mike_hueon> just acting
01:53 <mike_hueon> just like in a movie
01:54 <noob13> i saw a movie once
01:54 <noob13> it was spectacular.
01:55 <mike_hueon> which one
01:55 <noob13> it was called tron
01:56 <mike_hueon> 1982?
01:56 <noob13> that exactly.
01:56 <noob13> 2:18 was nice
01:57 <mike_hueon> 2:18???
01:57 <mike_hueon> what's that?
01:58 <noob13> sry im pretty tired :P
01:58 <mike_hueon> np
01:59 <noob13> #fortune
02:00 <armabot> Random Fortune: QOTD: || "I tried buying a goat instead of a lawn tractor; had to return || it though. Couldn't figure out a way to connect the snow blower."
02:04 <mike_hueon> #fortune
02:04 <armabot> Random Fortune: It [being a Vulcan] means to adopt a philosophy, a way of life which is || logical and beneficial. We cannot disregard that philosophy merely for || personal gain, no matter how important that gain might be. || -- Spock, "Journey to Babel", stardate 3842.4
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07:51 <antric> hey, bougs
08:04 <MrBougo> ohai
08:04 <MrBougo> and bye too
08:04 <MrBougo> gotta go
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08:38 <epsy> blah
08:38 <epsy> guru3, http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=200774#200774
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14:12 <epsy> z-man-work, is there a reason you show up as "Bazaarmagetron" ? heh
14:13 <z-man-work> Yeah, being too lazy log log out and back in :)
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14:22 <epsy> by the way, that discussion with mokey is going nowhere IMO, we're already talking about monkey's "features" for 0.3..
14:24 <freako5> So u want good bug reports for it?
14:24 <epsy> I want out before 0.3.2, sipmply
14:26 <freako5> I understand that, but will servers accept  0.3 clients?
14:26 <z-man-work> yes.
14:26 <z-man-work> and we always want good bug reports :)
14:27  * freako5 stil wonders, how can he make a good bug report from random game freezes ;)
14:28 <epsy> tell what you where doing, tell us when it happened, perhaps stdout logs, and most of all a recording
14:28 <epsy> were*
14:30 <freako5> I was playing the game/, It froze after loading the round start, /There is no other possibillity then rebooting the pc (because it causes the whole pc to crash /<-- only when playing arma) (happend about 5x last week)
14:31 <epsy> the whole pc to crash?
14:31 <freako5> (it's looks random/ but it mostly happens on fully crowded server/laggy servers)
14:31 <epsy> version, OS?
14:31 <freako5> 0.3-  Windows
14:31 <z-man-work> Doesn't matter :) Whole PC crashes -> Always blame the driver or hte OS.
14:31 <epsy> gfx card? drivers?
14:31 <freako5> 9600GTS
14:32 <epsy> is that nvidia? I don't have the mindreader set up correctly
14:32 <freako5> yeah thats nvidia (vsync off)
14:32 <epsy> well try to turn vsync on
14:33 <z-man-work> That would probably only slow the bug down.
14:33 <freako5> vsync on doesnt work on my pc... It-s unstable
14:33 <epsy> update the drivers
14:33 <freako5> refresh rate of my screen is 80 ,,, my fps is normally about 750+
14:34 <freako5> with vsync on its about 33
14:34 <freako5> (latest drivers)
14:34 <epsy> that's why you should use vsync instead of burning your screen
14:34 <freako5> I can only play with vsync on,, when I play local first
14:34 <freako5> Then the fps will be 80 all the time
14:34 <epsy> well, make sure the process table isn't too crowded
14:34 <epsy> you still didn't tell us the version
14:35 <freako5> gotta look. have like 12 installed versions on arma on my pc
14:35 <epsy> 0.3.0? the two years old version?
14:35 <freako5> 0.3 but not the oldest one
14:36 <epsy> z-man-work, also: when are we, and are we going to fully switch to bzr/lp ?
14:36 <freako5> beta.armagettronad.net would just open :)
14:37 <freako5> if*
14:37 <epsy> i doubt it would
14:37 <freako5> blah ur right
14:37 <epsy> yeah, it spells with one t
14:37 <z-man-work> epsy: we need a stable backend for releases. You can't properly tag in bzr.
14:38 <freako5> nah epsy. the site isnt loading
14:38 <z-man-work> So we're not going to drop svn any time soon, we may move it away from SF.
14:38 <freako5> De webpagina kan niet worden weergegeven  <--- The site can't be opened
14:38 <epsy> z-man-work, bzr tag?
14:38 <epsy> http://beta.armagetronad.net/ opens here
14:38 <z-man-work> Does that work?
14:38 <epsy> I *think* so
14:39 <epsy> check on that http-auth-server branch
14:39 <freako5> nope. the site isn't loading on my pc
14:39 <epsy> I should have tagged that beta I released few weeks ago
14:45 <freako5> not more knowledge then 0.3.x
14:55 <z-man-work> Cool, bzr tag works sweet
14:55 <z-man-work> tags even survive getting merged.
14:56 <epsy> eh, now it's svn which doesn't tag properly? :P
14:59 <z-man-work> It was luke who claims that svn is the only source control system handling tags correctly :)
15:00 <z-man-work> I always found the copy method kind of clumsy and error prone.
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15:13 <freako5> kyle. were going to choose in 18 minutes. ?
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15:14 <Durka> ct|kyle: oi
15:15 <ct|kyle> Durka: oi
15:15 <Durka> freako5: u here?
15:15 <Durka> madmax: ping?
15:15 <Durka> ct|kyle: lets do it now, no need to wait 15 min right?
15:15 <Durka> btw u see my new post
15:15 <freako5> yes
15:15 <Durka> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=200784#200784
15:15 <freako5> im here :)
15:15 <Durka> can u guys read that first?
15:16 <madmax> Durka: pong
15:16 <Durka> madmax and freako5 u guys can be witnesses (along with the logs as well)
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15:16 <freako5> aha
15:16 <freako5> u added my server idea :)
15:16 <Durka> :P
15:16 <Durka> ct|kyle: u read it?
15:17  * madmax can be bought for an extremely high price
15:17 <Durka> oO
15:17  * freako5 for the same price
15:17 <freako5> what first servers or teams?
15:17 <Durka> ct|kyle is a slow reader
15:17 <ct|kyle> Durka: reading
15:17 <ct|kyle> :P
15:17 <freako5> ok people
15:17 <ct|kyle> ok
15:17 <freako5> Ill do the the random check
15:17 <Durka> is that fine?
15:18 <freako5> *Random Check!*
15:18 <Durka> no this is what we're going to do
15:18 <freako5> .random team 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9
15:18 <Durka> kyle do a test of the two codes
15:18 <tronner> freako5: (random [<channel>]) -- Displays a random factoid (along with its key) from the database. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
15:18 <freako5> .oops
15:18 <ct|kyle> .randomteam 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9
15:18 <tronner> ct|kyle: Team 1: 8, Team 2: 2, Team 3: 4, Team 4: 3, Team 5: 6, Team 6: 9, Team 7: 5, Team 8: 7, Team 9: 1,
15:18 <freako5> .randomteam 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9
15:18 <tronner> freako5: Team 1: 1, Team 2: 3, Team 3: 2, Team 4: 8, Team 5: 9, Team 6: 7, Team 7: 6, Team 8: 4, Team 9: 5,
15:18 <Durka> ill do the randomteam code
15:18 <ct|kyle> .randserver2 a,b,c,d
15:18 <tronner> ct|kyle: Server 1: c, Server 2: b, Server 3: d, Server 4: a, Final Server: d, Third place Server: c
15:19 <Durka> ok now put in the correct servers
15:19 <Durka> ill do teams
15:19 <Durka> and test it
15:19 <Durka> its not official yet
15:19 <ct|kyle> do we have a second american server yet?
15:19 <Durka> .randomteam KoD,CT,NM,X,TR,WrD,NoT,DS,SP
15:19 <tronner> Durka: Team 1: SP, Team 2: WrD, Team 3: DS, Team 4: KoD, Team 5: TR, Team 6: CT, Team 7: X, Team 8: NoT, Team 9: NM,
15:20 <freako5> call it Luke-jr-s  or just
15:20 <Durka> yes
15:20 <Durka> its either luke-jr or republiks
15:20 <epsy> oooh there's a prooblem now
15:20 <freako5> or just American server2 :)
15:20 <freako5> .randomteam KoD,CT,NM,X,TR,WrD,NoT,DS,SP
15:20 <tronner> freako5: Team 1: WrD, Team 2: CT, Team 3: TR, Team 4: NM, Team 5: X, Team 6: DS, Team 7: NoT, Team 8: SP, Team 9: KoD,
15:20 <Durka> what now epsy ?
15:20 <ct|kyle> .randserver2 CT1,z-man,ww,american server2
15:20 <tronner> ct|kyle: Server 1: ww, Server 2: american server2, Server 3: CT1, Server 4: z-man, Final Server: CT1, Third place Server: z-man
15:20 <freako5> ok. it passed the random check :)
15:21 <freako5> madmax whats ur price? I want the same :)
15:21 <Durka> ok are we ready?
15:21 <freako5> yup
15:21 <Durka> ct|kyle: u ready?
15:21 <ct|kyle> ya
15:21 <Durka> epsy: wanna tell us?
15:21 <epsy> hm?
15:21 <Durka> "oooh there's a prooblem now"
15:21 <freako5> oooh there's a prooblem now : related to the ladle?
15:22 <freako5> or to z-man ?
15:22 <Durka> well then...
15:22 <Durka> this is how it's going to work
15:22 <ct|kyle> epsy: say go
15:22 <Durka> freako5: will type "#roulette"
15:22 <Durka> i will paste my command
15:23 <Durka> then kyle u do urs
15:23 <Durka> then freako will type it again
15:23 <Durka> ok?
15:23 <epsy> @echo go!
15:23 <teabot> go!
15:23 <freako5> Affirmative!
15:23 <freako5> #roulette
15:23 <armabot> freako5: *click*
15:23 <Durka> .randomteam KoD,CT,NM,X,TR,WrD,NoT,DS,SP
15:23 <ct|kyle> .randserver2 CT1,z-man,ww,american server2
15:23 <tronner> Durka: Team 1: NoT, Team 2: TR, Team 3: WrD, Team 4: SP, Team 5: NM, Team 6: X, Team 7: DS, Team 8: CT, Team 9: KoD,
15:23 <tronner> ct|kyle: Server 1: CT1, Server 2: american server2, Server 3: ww, Server 4: z-man, Final Server: american server2, Third place Server: z-man
15:23 <freako5> #roulette
15:23 <armabot> freako5: *click*
15:23 <Durka> awesome
15:24 <Durka> so there it is
15:24 <Durka> well done team :O
15:24 <MaZuffeR> damn, ct vs kod in first round :/
15:24 <freako5> no
15:24 <freako5> kod has a bye first round
15:24 <ct|kyle> Team 8 will play Team 9 at 6:45pm GMT
15:25 <freako5> no
15:25 <freako5> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Ladle/Challenge_Board
15:25 <freako5> we have a new challenge board
15:25 <madmax> durka's post says it's 8vs9
15:25 <Durka> its 8 v 9
15:25 <Durka> i havent updated it
15:25 <freako5> the challenge board says its 7 vs 8
15:26 <Durka> that was based on 10 teams
15:26 <freako5> lazy durka :O
15:26 <ct|kyle> he said to read his post
15:26 <Durka> and that was still wrong
15:26 <Durka> we only have 9 now
15:26 <freako5> finals on ww :)
15:26 <freako5> gl with playing ct Maz :)
15:26 <MaZuffeR> ty :)
15:27 <Durka> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=200785#200785
15:28  * freako5 guesses that TR gets almost a free ticket :)
15:28 <Durka> finals arent on WW
15:28 <freako5> on r3? i heard that server was awfull
15:29 <Durka> or lukes
15:29 <Durka> it depends if luke is nice
15:29 <Durka> and no that servers not awful lol
15:30 <freako5> I hope luke will be nice... because his servers are far better ;)
15:30 <ct|kyle> Durka: so is ct vs KoD at server 1?
15:30 <freako5> R3..... 350 ping....
15:30 <Durka> yea
15:30 <freako5> mmm.. 240 now,.. where is it located australia? :O
15:31 <freako5> Is it west- NA ?
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15:36 <z-man-work> epsy: I can't reproduce https://bugs.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+bug/276371
15:36 <teabot> Launchpad bug 276371 in armagetronad "team blue bug on spec key" [Undecided,New]
15:36 <epsy> that's on trunk
15:37 <z-man-work> ah.
15:38 <freako5> durka: Can the r3 server handle a full server?
15:38 <Durka> yea
15:38 <epsy> there, it's better with the milestone set
15:38 <freako5> mmm..
15:39 <freako5> it has the same location as the WW server,,, thought my ping is 2x then WW-s
15:39 <freako5> both in Texas
15:40 <freako5> durka:
15:42 <freako5> So, can't we use pinktomatoes server for it? if he likes?
15:42 <freako5> It-s hosted by the same company as ww :)
15:42 <z-man-work> I also can't get this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+bug/261469
15:42 <teabot> Launchpad bug 261469 in armagetronad "team red pops up when switching out from SP mode" [Low,Incomplete]
15:43 <z-man-work> I suppose you couldn't, either?
15:43 <Durka> ct|kyle, madmax, freako5 http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=200785#200785
15:43 <Durka> theres the scenarios
15:43 <freako5> durka:     it has the same location as the WW server,,, thought my ping is 2x then WW-s     /  So, can't we use pinktomatoes server for it? if he likes?   / It-s hosted by the same company as ww :)
15:44 <Durka> freako we used reps for the tst
15:44 <Durka> it was fine
15:44 <Durka> in fact we all had better pings than ww
15:44 <freako5> I even heard that, that pink-s was better for americans 2 :P
15:44 <Durka> fix ur internet
15:44 <Durka> ill go join reps right now
15:45 <Durka> 89 ping
15:45 <Durka> thats the same as i get in WW
15:46 <freako5> Ill test all 3
15:46 <Durka> ok well i g2g
15:46 <Durka> cya
15:47 <freako5> R3p  205 : WW 120 ; Pink-s 108
15:47 <Durka> wheres pinks
15:47 <Durka> what is it called
15:48 <Durka> nvr mind i see it
15:48 <Durka> 76 ping
15:48 <Durka> big diff...
15:48 <freako5> mmm... odd monkey made it to 98 on pinks last week
15:49 <Durka> ok well maybe its closer to the east coast
15:49 <Durka> who cares
15:49 <Durka> cya
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15:49 <freako5> That durka doesnt understand... That r3p-s server is closer to me,, but still has a higher ping :O
15:50 <freako5> 80+
15:53 <epsy> well, say, you're phoning with your mobile phone to your mate that's in the next room
15:53 <epsy> is it a direct link? nope, it transits through the operator's network
15:53 <freako5> Yes i get why..
15:53 <epsy> same happens for the internet, except that you often leave your operator's network
15:53 <freako5> Or the connection is slower... or its connected to europe trough different cable/satelites
15:54 <epsy> well, hoax had for a long time a really crap ping at G5's server
15:54 <epsy> we found out that the packets were routed through america
15:54 <freako5> yes.. depends how it-s connected,,, I'll traceroute both servers though
15:55 <epsy> also, the europe-us links are not done via satellite if I remember correctly
15:55 <epsy> 100ms would be impossible with satellite
15:55 <freako5> Yeah I said  /   ,  because I wasnt sure wich it was
15:56 <freako5> ah epsy.. You said I could never use an proxy on arma? I have it now ;)
15:57 <epsy> well, if you assimilate a router to a proxy, which is a false assumption, you would be having a proxy for everything
15:58 <freako5> http://www.anchorfree.com/
15:58 <freako5> It work's and u even will have a low-ping if u live near a routing city
15:59 <epsy> what does it do?
15:59 <freako5> Everything I send,Do, whatever
15:59 <epsy> that's only for browser navigation
15:59 <freako5> nope
15:59 <epsy> show me
15:59 <freako5> g5 checked it, he found out I was living in America :O
16:00 <epsy> checked WHAT
16:00 <freako5> he checked my arma-ingame ip
16:03 <freako5> Do u have a server, where U can check my ip?
16:03 <epsy> epsy.teamkilled.net:4534
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16:05 <freako6> epsy, do u have an server where u can check my ip :)
16:05 <epsy> [16:02] <epsy>: epsy.teamkilled.net:4534
16:06 <epsy> [1] Received login from via socket *.*.*.*:4534, network version: (ID: 13).
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16:06 <epsy> P address country:  	 ip address flag Netherlands
16:06 <epsy> IP address state: 	Noord-Brabant
16:06 <epsy> IP address city: 	Waalwijk
16:06 <freako6> that was the control login....
16:07 <epsy> hrhr
16:07 <epsy> the come again
16:07 <epsy> then*
16:08 <freako6> it-s updating.. wait a sec lol >.<
16:08 <epsy> huh?
16:09 <freako6> every program needs updating... I only hate it does it automatic :)
16:09 <epsy> ??
16:12 <luke-jr> lots of talking about me :o
16:12 <freako6> haha :) we were talking about the ladle server again
16:13 <luke-jr> <.<
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16:22 <epsy> bbl
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16:55 <PhysiX> hay all
16:56 <madmax> hi
16:56 <madmax> irssi
16:57 <madmax> er, oops
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17:01 <freako6> hi phy :)
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17:16 <freako6> lol
17:19 <PinkTomato> lol?
17:19 <freako6> quit/join? were they kicked?
17:20  * freako6 has no irc knowledge
17:20 <MaZuffeR> freako6, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
17:20 <PinkTomato> oh yeah, that was odd
17:21 <PinkTomato> ah right :)
17:22 <freako6> aha, I get it :
17:27 <Monkey_arma> hey PhysiX
17:28 <PhysiX> hay monk
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19:04 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r916 Added removal of some created directories on uninstall via s... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r915 Urgh. Left some disorienting experimental code in the last c... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r914 small refactoring of glance reset....
19:05 <BabyBug> \o/
19:05 <PinkTomato> :)
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19:46 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8617 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/eCamera.cpp): Manuel Moos: small refactoring of glance reset.
19:47 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8618 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/eCamera.cpp): Manuel Moos: Urgh. Left some disorienting experimental code in the last commit.
19:48 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8619 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Manuel Moos: Added removal of some created directories on uninstall via script.
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21:40 <epsy> yeah, fucking bs intel driver
21:40 <epsy> now display lists crashes it
21:40 <epsy> fucking bullshit upgrade
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21:47 <luke-jr> …
21:47 <luke-jr> wasn't display lists a hack anyway?
21:48 <epsy> the intel driver is a hack yeah
21:49 <luke-jr> …
21:49 <luke-jr> the Intel driver is the best one for Linux last I checked
21:49 <epsy> blahblahblah
21:50 <epsy> in terms of crashes per hour, indeed it has a good score
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21:50 <luke-jr> you tried GEM or LKS?
21:50 <epsy> the kernel is not up to date enough for that
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23:13 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r917 Removed limits on ports in server bookmark and custom connec...
23:13 <BabyBug> \o/
23:13 <noob13> yay!
23:16 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8620 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/tron/gServerFavorites.cpp):
23:16 <armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
23:16 <armabot> armagetronad: Removed limits on ports in server bookmark and custom connect menus.
23:16 <armabot> armagetronad: Fixes #253978.
23:16 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8621 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/eDisplay.cpp): Manuel Moos: Removed default debug grid again.
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23:51 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8622 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. config/default.cfg): Manuel Moos: Fixed invalid setting.
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23:59 <_TaZ_> Hello

Log from 2008-12-04:
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00:07 <unce> hi armabot
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00:13 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r919 Fixed invalid setting.... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r918 Removed default debug grid again....
00:13 <BabyBug> \o/
00:19 <_TaZ_> ivantis
00:19 <ivantis> wat?
00:19 <_TaZ_> wrtlprnft, I choose you!
00:19 <ivantis> not me?
00:19 <_TaZ_> How is your day going ivantis?
00:20 <ivantis> good
00:20 <ivantis> i guess
00:20 <ivantis> why?
00:20 <_TaZ_> That's good.
00:20 <_TaZ_> I was just asking.  Being polite.
00:20 <ivantis> you want to borrow money?
00:20 <_TaZ_> lolz, No, but if you want, I won't oblige.
00:21 <_TaZ_> I could always use a macbook pro.
00:21 <ivantis> something you need to ask me? otherwise i need to get back to my geometry homework
00:22 <_TaZ_> I was just asking how your day was going.
00:22 <_TaZ_> :p silly
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00:25 <ivantis> oh
00:46 <luke-jr> ivantis: _TaZ_ wants to stop over at your place!
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03:05 <hoax> ct|kyle
03:05 <ct|kyle> hoax:
03:05 <hoax> it's reindeer
03:05 <hoax> not raindeer
03:06 <hoax> ctwf
03:06 <ct|kyle> :P
03:06 <hoax> was that you?
03:06 <ct|kyle> it's gonna be gingerbread men
03:06  * ct|kyle can't spell :P
03:06 <hoax> lol..
03:06 <hoax> those colours are awful :|
03:07 <BabyBug> lol hoax which ones you?
03:07 <hoax> I'm not there
03:08 <BabyBug> O.o
03:08 <hoax> left like an hour ago
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03:08 <hoax> or did I? :D
03:08 <BabyBug> >< stop being a rabbit
03:08 <hoax> no srsly I left
03:08 <hoax> couldn't wait to get out :D
03:08 <BabyBug> who -were- you then? =P
03:09  * hoax :|
03:09 <hoax> also I don't think this beta likes ct maps, fps is jumpy
03:09 <BabyBug> oh ok, it's just someone pointed out the spelling 5 mins before you did
03:10 <ct|kyle> .ctwf
03:10 <tronner> ct|kyle: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: Players (6/14): BabyBug, BlindMan, buzzzz, Funky Gorilla, Muff, Razor210
03:10 <BabyBug> i thought you were then in a dif name :P
03:10 <ct|kyle> ok next restart names will update
03:10 <BabyBug> might aswell do it now =P
03:11 <ct|kyle> gotta kill the server to make the server work right after names are updated
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07:01 <armabot> Pathetique: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
07:01 <Pathetique> list alias
07:01 <Pathetique> #alias list
07:01 <Pathetique> ffs
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12:54 <z-man-work> Heh :)
12:54 <z-man-work> I made a recording on a server for OpenGL debugging
12:54 <z-man-work> and I always see this idiot who doesn't know shit
12:54 <z-man-work> he always drives straight into walls.
12:54 <z-man-work> turns out it was me :) I forgot to enable spectator mode somehow.
13:01 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8623 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
13:01 <armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
13:01 <armabot> armagetronad: Fixed OpenGL errors:
13:01 <armabot> armagetronad: - avoiding nested glBegin()s with model rendering
13:01 <armabot> armagetronad: - avoiding to call display lists when a glBegin() block is open
13:02 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8624 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/render/rDisplayList.cpp src/tron/gCycle.cpp): Manuel Moos: Also closing all glBegin() blocks before calling glEndList().
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18:15 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, +1 on white \o/
18:28 <epsy> blah, borrrriiiinngg
18:34  * BabyBug brutally stabs epsy with a pen
18:35 <epsy> :|
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20:07 <epsy> ct|kyle: ping
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20:17 <ct|kyle> epsy: pong
20:18 <epsy> see bug 261469
20:18 <epsy> https://bugs.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+bug/261469
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20:22 <ct|kyle> epsy: ... so waht does it do?
20:22 <epsy> hm, it was eddie
20:27 <ct|kyle> epsy: probably was since he was messing with single player stuff
20:28 <BabyBug> .si deathmatch
20:28 <tronner> BabyBug: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (0/16):
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20:31 <epsy> ct|kyle, well, the bug report is quite in complete
20:31 <epsy> incomplete*
20:31 <ct|kyle> yes i see that
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20:40 <epsy> zmanuel, by the way, I'm not sure if you had seen this: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16984#c8
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20:40 <teabot> Freedesktop bug 16984 in Mesa core ""Create and Call" and "Create and Execute" display lists cause crash." [Critical,New]
20:40 <epsy> since I get display list crashes, I guess I will check for that
20:41 <epsy> I'd just need a general idea of where to hook to
20:42 <zmanuel> Nope, haven't seen that one before.
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20:47 <BabyBug> .ctwf
20:47 <tronner> BabyBug: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: Players (12/14): 123, <<~luAp~>>, Æ®ØÐ¥ñ@M¡©, BlindMan, buzzzz, cT¬safarisKater, FrEeToSk8bRd, hobbes, Lost_Nickname, MrChiCho, Paf, PaToDucK
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21:20 <TaZ> hey
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21:31 <P4> hey Taz (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hHsYOLETqE) :P
21:32 <epsy> @title http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hHsYOLETqE
21:32 <teabot> epsy: YouTube - Chemical Brothers - Hey Boy Hey Girl
21:33 <TaZ> I can't open it.
21:33 <TaZ> P4
21:33 <epsy> who cares
21:34 <P4> no wonder, it's utub
21:34 <epsy> it's a fucking youtube video
21:34 <P4> lol
21:34 <TaZ> lol
21:34 <TaZ> what do you guys use in Europe?
21:34 <TaZ> veoh?
21:34 <P4> i don't care, but i like to be able to use modern technology on the websites :P
21:34 <P4> veoh?
21:34 <TaZ> haha
21:34 <epsy> I don't use anything yet, and I still wonder what I'm going to use, when I'll be needing to use one
21:35 <TaZ> So you guys don't have video sharing sites?
21:35 <P4> videosharing?!
21:35 <P4> you mean file sharing?
21:35 <epsy> sites??
21:35 <P4> ftp sites?
21:35 <TaZ> No, video sharing...like youtube.
21:35 <epsy> an european video sharing site..hm
21:35 <TaZ> dailymotion.com, veoh.com, youtibe.com
21:36 <TaZ> youtube*
21:36 <P4> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRi8Sr68z_0 :)
21:36 <epsy> where's daily and veoh from?
21:36 <P4> crazy guys that days
21:36 <TaZ> Veoh.com
21:36 <TaZ> Even Hulu.com
21:36 <epsy> veoh's american
21:37 <TaZ> So you won't use it because it's American.
21:37 <TaZ> ?
21:38 <epsy> grm..
21:38 <epsy> daily's giving me information about it's implementation in france
21:38 <epsy> did I say that?
21:39 <epsy> TaZ, http://www.dailymotion.com/legal/infos
21:39 <epsy> at the right side of the logo, switch to "international"
21:40 <epsy> indeed, it's headquarters are set in france, as said by the wikipedia page
21:40 <epsy> oo look
21:40 <epsy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_video_services
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21:48 <TaZ> interesting
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21:51 <TaZ> Video sharing sites are profitable.
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21:51 <epsy> http://www.viddler.com/learn-more/
21:51 <epsy> this sounds OK
21:52 <epsy> now I should see if it does not fail the same way than vimeo
21:53 <TaZ> Did you make this? lol
21:54 <epsy> did I make what?
21:55 <TaZ> This will fail epsy.
21:55 <epsy> tell me how
21:56 <TaZ> I actually like vimeo.
21:56 <epsy> It sounded neat to me, as well
21:56 <TaZ> Well the site looks really bad compared to say, youtube.
21:57 <epsy> http://vimeo.com/guidelines#uploading_guidelines
21:57 <epsy> because youtube looks good?
21:57 <epsy> LOL?
21:57 <TaZ> People still use vimeo on like gadget blogs and stuff.
21:57 <epsy> and ?
21:57 <TaZ> Compared to this epsy, yes.
21:58 <TaZ> It never "failed"
21:58 <epsy> did you read this link?
21:58 <epsy> #  No TV, movies, trailers or other videos you find on the web. You may post videos of yourself on TV, as long as you have the rights to do so and the video is limited to your involvement in the program.
21:58 <epsy> # No captures of gameplay, regardless if it is edited or not. Machinima with a story is allowed, provided the story is more than "guys doing exactly what the game was made for (eg skateboarding)".
21:58 <epsy> # Video game developers may post videos of their work provided they cite their involvement in the description of the video (maps and mods to commercial games don't count).
21:58 <armabot> no
21:58 <armabot> no
21:59 <epsy> in other words, they don't want to lend you their video encoder for whatever you like
21:59 <epsy> they are really picky about it
22:00 <epsy> now, no stereo sound sucks
22:03 <epsy> so yes I will still have a hard time finding one that does not suck
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22:26 <TaZ> I don't care, I love vimeo.
22:27 <TaZ> If I want to watch movies, I'll use other sites.
22:28 <epsy> what was the last line of mine you seen, TaZ ?
22:28 <epsy> I still agree, vimeo looks awesome
22:29 <epsy> now, it got great content restrictions, and anyway I am not it's target audience
22:33 <TaZ> idk, send it again
22:33 <TaZ> I'm pretty sure I read it though
22:33 <TaZ> Do you remember stage 6?
22:33 <epsy> never used it
22:34 <TaZ> They used the divx codec, and had the best quality to watch movies.
22:34 <epsy> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armalogs/log-2008-12-04.txt
22:34 <epsy> 21:58
22:37 <TaZ> Oh yea, I saw it.
22:39 <epsy> so basically, that's not for me - at all :)
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22:51 <Flex> z-man, what happened to bugfarm sumo tourny server thing, that was fun.. :o
22:52 <z-man> I constantly forget to bring it back up after each reboot :) give me a sec.
22:52 <Flex> that's crazy
22:53 <Flex> put it on auto start or something, going to take time for players to populate it
22:53 <z-man> can't, don't have root rights.
22:54 <Flex> does it still have that mini hour tournament?
22:55 <z-man> I think so, if I didn't break it.
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23:51 <K-Yo> Monkey_arma, do you have a training matc tonight?h
23:52 <noob13> .ys
23:52 <tronner> noob13: The YELLOW Submarine: Players (6/16): AI team, B3aN3r1o2, BunnyBoy, esega, openSuSE, Skewycat, [=n=], | Nikka |
23:53 <epsy> <insert some random bot command here, too>
23:53 <K-Yo> .c epsy
23:53 <tronner> K-Yo: epsy
23:53 <K-Yo> woot
23:53 <epsy> incredible
23:53 <K-Yo> best command ever!
23:53 <K-Yo> .help c
23:53 <tronner> K-Yo: (c <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch [concat http://havoc.ift.uni.wroc.pl/~p4/tron/colors.php?txt= [urlquote $*]]".
23:54 <K-Yo> .alias add repeat echo $*
23:54 <tronner> K-Yo: The operation succeeded.
23:54 <K-Yo> .repeat hi
23:54 <tronner> hi
23:54 <K-Yo> coool
23:56 <K-Yo> .servers
23:56 <tronner> K-Yo: This data is 41 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (11/12), |FA| Devils Rings! (10/16), {Delicious Desserts} Racing II (10/14), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (9/10), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (9/10), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (9/16), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (7/12), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (7/12), The YELLOW Submarine (7/16), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (7/14), (2 more messages)
23:56 <K-Yo> .more
23:56 <tronner> K-Yo: ---===<<<[ 2Fast2Dangerous ]>>>===--- (6/10), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (6/12), The ~:VcL:~ Clan Server! (6/14), |FA| BLACK TAR (5/16), Wild West  =CTF Shooting=  ~Multi~Mode~ (5/10), Swampland Mud Puddle (4/8), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Sumo < (3/16), Bugfarm Elimination Sumo (2/16), AfroTHUNDER! (2/10), Wild West  =Sumo= (2/14), Wild West  =Fortress Shootout= (2/12), SPACEZONE I [HIGH SPEED!!] (2/8), SkyArena (1 more message)
23:56 <K-Yo> .si elimina
23:56 <tronner> K-Yo: Bugfarm Elimination Sumo: Players (2/16): CT§ÅÐ¥±£µ¢îfe® (Ady-Lucifer@ct), Cunt licker
23:56 <K-Yo> wow
23:57 <BabyBug> arma needs a name filter!!
23:58 <ct|kyle> would not be hard to add that, go for it BabyBug :P
23:58 <K-Yo> .sumomsg Bugfarm Elimination sumo is UP, elimination starts in 2 minutes!
23:58 <tronner> K-Yo: 1
23:58 <epsy> there are character filters on trunk
23:59 <BabyBug> character filters?
23:59 <epsy> tCharacterFilter
23:59 <epsy> see it's heritiers implementations for reference

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00:00 <BabyBug> character filter != name filter ><
00:00 <Monkey_arma> K-Yo no
00:01 <epsy> well, to put up a name filter, you need a character filter
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00:01 <BabyBug> Why tell me? You're one of the coders xD
00:02 <ct|kyle> RENAME_ALL shit poop
00:02 <ct|kyle> :P
00:04 <epsy> that kind of feature is too specific to be in the main parts
00:05 <epsy> good night
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00:06 <BabyBug> How can a feature be too specific, that's just plain silly
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00:13 <K-Yo> Monkey_arma, sry, NoT are supposed to, :P
00:13 <Monkey_arma> yes they are
00:13 <Monkey_arma> in fact, 23/black_hat is asking
00:14 <Monkey_arma> its gone 23:00GMT already
00:14 <Monkey_arma> PinkTomato maybe you can shed some light...
00:14 <PinkTomato> Monkey_arma: ?
00:15 <Monkey_arma> hrm
00:16 <PinkTomato> Have I missed something?
00:16 <Monkey_arma> im not sure
00:17 <Monkey_arma> black_hat/23 says that NoT are supposed to be having a practice match tonight (now) at 23:00GMT
00:17 <Monkey_arma> at least he says that is what saibot emailed him
00:18 <PinkTomato> Thursday 23GMT i did get an email.
00:20 <madmax> Flex: seems like I *have* to make a fancy youtube video showing the single binding :P
00:21 <Flex> lol, what
00:21 <Flex> how is it different from watching you in-game
00:22 <madmax> well, actually pressing only one key?
00:22 <PinkTomato> I still contend that using the mouse is easiest in tron :)
00:22 <BabyBug> how do you use the mouse? O.o
00:23 <PinkTomato> hehe :), left button left right button right
00:23 <PinkTomato> and you move the mouse to control the camera
00:24 <PinkTomato> middle click for rear view
00:24 <Flex> madmax, how do i see you pressing one key..
00:24 <Flex> i retracted my statement, no need
00:25 <madmax> sometime ago someone brought this up too and I actually considered making it heh
00:25 <madmax> with a cam showing the keyboard + screen
00:26 <BabyBug> You should just get one which prints the key presses to the screen
00:26 <BabyBug> a screen recorder that is
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01:16 <Paralyzed> luke
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01:31 <madmax>  #aka doesn't work anymore? :-(
01:31 <ct|kyle> #aka luke-jr
01:32 <armabot> ct|kyle: (97, 'Address family not supported by protocol')
01:32 <madmax> hmm the ratings site is ~dead
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01:33 <ct|kyle> #luke-jr_work luke-jr
01:34 <ct|kyle> madmax: correction beta.armagetronad.net is down
01:35 <madmax> heh
01:44 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: u
01:44 <luke-jr> WFM
01:48 <luke-jr> meh, everydns is screwy
01:49 <luke-jr> or, dyndns is screwy
01:49 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: about time u report an IPv4 issue
02:00 <armabot> lpbugs: [261469] new player gets assigned to team red when switching from SP to multiplayer mode
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02:26 <TaZ> Hey
02:27 <TaZ> So I have the craziest server idea.
02:27 <TaZ> Anyone wanna hear?
02:28 <TaZ> ivantis
02:33 <noob13> sure, tell us..
02:33 <TaZ> kk :D
02:33 <TaZ> Before I tell you this, I assure you I have not been smoking.
02:34 <noob13> ok :)
02:34 <luke-jr> liar
02:34 <noob13> not that there's anything wrong with smoking..
02:34 <TaZ> Shut up luke
02:34 <TaZ> ok here it goes
02:35 <luke-jr> IM NOT LISTENING
02:35 <luke-jr> LALALALALALALALA
02:35 <noob13> liar
02:36 <luke-jr> f u 2
02:36 <TaZ> Ok, so basically the server is called survivior.  In each round or match, someone is voted off. You can form allies with people so they don't vote you out
02:37 <noob13> :P
02:37 <luke-jr> ……….
02:37 <luke-jr> that's more like Who Wants to be a Millionaire
02:37 <TaZ> but tron edition
02:37 <luke-jr> the median guy ends up winning
02:38 <luke-jr> cuz the good players get voted out
02:38 <TaZ> haha
02:38 <TaZ> But you can form allies though
02:38 <TaZ> Or you can form enemies.  You make the choice
02:38 <luke-jr> sigh
02:38 <luke-jr> sounds stupid
02:39 <TaZ> What do you think noob13?
02:40 <noob13> i think it would suck to be voted out..
02:40 <noob13> ..and having to wait.
02:40 <TaZ> luke-jr, you are no helo.
02:40 <TaZ> It would, but thats why you form allies with people.
02:40 <TaZ> So you don't get voted off.
02:40 <luke-jr> like I said
02:40 <luke-jr> stupid
02:40 <TaZ> This mean that skill alone won't win you the match
02:41 <TaZ> means*
02:41 <luke-jr> exactly the problem
02:41 <luke-jr> skill alone *should* win you the match
02:42 <TaZ> But does every server have to be the same?
02:42 <TaZ> It's something different.
02:43 <luke-jr> ok
02:43 <luke-jr> so make it
02:43 <luke-jr> and run it at home
02:43 <luke-jr> it will sit EMPTY
02:43 <luke-jr> 24/7
02:43 <TaZ> ..I will, I was just seeing what you guys think?
02:43 <TaZ> You don't know that luke-jr.
02:44 <luke-jr> I do.
02:44 <TaZ> Jeez luke-jr, it's nice to see you like different ideas.
02:45 <luke-jr> I like good ideas.
02:45 <luke-jr> Not dumb ones.
02:45 <luke-jr> like "let's have the good player LOSE!"
02:45 <TaZ> Well thats you're opinion sir
02:45 <TaZ> This is why you forms allies luke-jr :)
02:46 <luke-jr> why should I ally with lusers like you?
02:46 <TaZ> hmm, didn't you say you were about to kill yourself?
02:46 <TaZ> Please continue with that.
02:48 <TaZ> noob13
02:48 <noob13> yes?
02:48 <TaZ> Do you have any thoughts?
02:48 <noob13> what would happen to the players that are voted out?
02:49 <TaZ> They would be allowed to come back in, but their score would be set to zero.
02:50 <noob13> it somehow lacks sense, i think..
02:50 <TaZ> lol
02:50 <TaZ> Anything added that would make sense?
02:51 <TaZ> that could be*
02:51 <noob13> hm..
02:51 <noob13> you're trying to combine armagetron with a reality tv show..
02:51 <noob13> there's no way that could make sense :P
02:51 <TaZ> rofl
02:52 <TaZ> I guess this is aimed at a certain group of arma players.
02:52 <noob13> i guess. i never was a fan of survivors myself..
02:52 <TaZ> Eh, I watched the first one..it was ok
02:53 <TaZ> I just liked the idea of arma players being in control, you know?
02:54 <luke-jr> how about if the guy voted off has 10 points, then 10 points of dead guys are revived? ;P
02:54 <TaZ> explain...
02:54 <luke-jr> if you vote off a good player, you get to deal with 2-4 sucky ones
02:55 <TaZ> ah ok.
02:56 <TaZ> Should the player be able to choose who he wants to transfer the points to?
03:00 <luke-jr> no
03:01 <TaZ> Ok, so it's at random then?
03:01 <luke-jr> not
03:02 <TaZ> ?
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10:20 <apparition> hello!
10:21 <apparition> wake up
10:27 <apparition> if anyone needs another member for the ladle, let me know: admmatth@gmail.com
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12:06 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8625 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/network/nNetwork.cpp): Manuel Moos: Only logging address if it changed.
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12:46 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r922 Only logging address if it changed....
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13:11 <knecht> hey, that game makes fun !!!
13:11 <knecht> just installed it on gentoo, runs like a charm
13:12 <knecht> ( version 0.3 )
13:26 <K-Yo> knecht, :)
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13:27 <K-Yo> hi Monkey_arma
13:27 <Monkey_arma> hey K-Yo
13:39 <knecht> K-Yo: Much thanks for your work on armagetron if you are a developer!! Love it!
13:39 <K-Yo> knecht, I am not :(
13:41 <K-Yo> knecht, you can thank guru_3 z-man wrtl epsy luke_jr jonathan philippeqc...
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13:59 <Monkey_arma> knecht what servers do you play and as what name?
14:02 <knecht> name was myself it think (maybe knecht). it was the server with the most player (10/12)
14:02 <knecht> don't remember the name
14:03 <K-Yo> nvm
14:03 <K-Yo> oops
14:07 <K-Yo> knecht, what kind of game was it?
14:09 <K-Yo> Monkey_arma, u afk from arma?
14:09 <Monkey_arma> ah ye lol
14:10 <K-Yo> Monkey_arma, :P
14:11  * Monkey_arma panics in case it was DDL
14:11 <Monkey_arma> knecht fortress and sumo are best
14:11 <Monkey_arma> but you will find what you like
14:13 <epsy> @ls knecht
14:13 <teabot> epsy: timed out
14:14 <epsy> @ls myself
14:14 <teabot> epsy: myself has last been seen on  Wild West  =Capture The Flag=  ~Multi~Mode~ 45 minutes ago.
14:14 <K-Yo> .ls kne
14:14 <tronner> K-Yo: Darkness has last been seen on  Wild West  =Capture The Flag=  ~Multi~Mode~ 41 minutes ago.
14:14 <Monkey_arma> .ls knecht
14:14 <tronner> Monkey_arma: timed out
14:14 <K-Yo> knecht, sure you played with that name :P
14:15 <Monkey_arma> .ls knec#
14:15 <Monkey_arma> .ls knec
14:15 <tronner> Monkey_arma: timed out
14:15 <Monkey_arma> nvm
14:15 <K-Yo> #ls echt
14:15 <tronner> Monkey_arma: timed out
14:15 <K-Yo> .ls echt
14:15 <armabot> K-Yo: timed out
14:15 <tronner> K-Yo: timed out
14:16 <K-Yo> ]ls knecht
14:16 <K-Yo> The_Master, ls knecht
14:16 <The_Master> Probably
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15:06 <armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
15:06 <armabot> armagetronad: No more client state changes in display lists or list deletions in glBegin/glEnd blocks (both should have been harmless, but the list deletions definitely were outside of the GL specs.
15:06 <armabot> armagetronad: Added python script checking bugle trace logs for stuff like that.
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18:22 <_TaZ_> Hello
18:23 <_TaZ_> Dear Luke-jr: I told some other people about my server idea, and they thought it was a great idea.
18:23 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8627 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/network/nNetwork.cpp src/network/nServerInfo.cpp): Manuel Moos: Fixed playback errros when browsing the master list; duplicate server entries were not taken care of on playback, only while recording, causing a mismatch of network message IDs later.
18:24 <BabyBug> _TaZ_, You should never pay any attention to luke-jr ;)
18:25 <_TaZ_> Yes, I learned that yesterday. :D
18:28 <luke-jr> BabyBug: his idea was lame
18:28 <luke-jr> _TaZ_: bet they were bad players
18:28 <_TaZ_> Nope, they were CTF pros.
18:28 <BabyBug> luke-jr, at least you're not disagreeing that i shouldn't pay attention to you xD
18:29 <_TaZ_> You just don't like change luke-jr.
18:29 <BabyBug> but i was lurking at the time, and i thought the idea wasn't lame, but had too many flaws which would make it lame
18:29 <_TaZ_> They said it would be intense.
18:29 <_TaZ_> Any ideas that would make it better babybug?
18:30 <BabyBug> No i'm not a designer
18:30 <_TaZ_> Well what flaws did you see?
18:31 <BabyBug> there's no balance within
18:31 <BabyBug> it
18:31 <_TaZ_> hmm
18:32 <BabyBug> games have to be balanced...Skill is what keeps armagetron well balanced, if you don't need skill to win, it loses that, and it's basically a popularity contest
18:33 <_TaZ_> This is true.
18:34 <_TaZ_> I think it's focused at a different group of arma players though/
18:34 <_TaZ_> Like the kind who like playing for fun, not to win.
18:36 <BabyBug> It'd be like school...great when you first start, and you'd hate it eventually
18:36 <BabyBug> school is also just a popularity contest ^^
18:37 <_TaZ_> Yea it is.
18:37 <_TaZ_> It's more like a reality show to me though.
18:38 <BabyBug> You'd get a group of people who'd always vote everyone else off, people would get fed up of that, and never join the server
18:38 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8628 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/eTeam.cpp):
18:38 <armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
18:38 <armabot> armagetronad: Team color index is now guaranteed to be < (SP_)TEAMS_MAX.
18:38 <armabot> armagetronad: Fixes bug 261469.
18:39 <_TaZ_> Well it depends, if a person from that group is winning, there is a good probability that someone from that group is going to vote that person off.
18:40 <epsy> z-man-work, even with TEAM_ELIMINATION_MODE != true ?
18:40 <z-man-work> Yeah. The team gets renamed, not eliminated.
18:41 <BabyBug> _TaZ_, not if that group is a real group, you're bound to get some people who consider themself a team, and never vote each other off
18:41 <BabyBug> bbl, food =)
18:41 <_TaZ_> kk
18:47 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8629 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/eTeam.cpp): Manuel Moos: Redder default red.
18:47 <epsy> z-man-work, hm, that may get confusing
18:53 <z-man-work> Only in Team Elimination Sumo.
18:55 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r926 Redder default red.... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r925 Team color index is now guaranteed to be < (SP_)TEAMS_MAX.... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r924 Fixed playback errros when browsing the master list; duplica...
18:55 <BabyBug> \o/
18:58 <_TaZ_> hey epsy
19:00 <BabyBug> <3 epsy
19:01 <_TaZ_> </3 luke-jr
19:01 <_TaZ_> He's a grumpy person.
19:01 <luke-jr> f u
19:01 <_TaZ_> see
19:02 <_TaZ_> You're going to be one of those mean old guys who throws cats a kids, because there ball hopped over your fence.
19:04 <_TaZ_> Babybug, do you play tron?
19:04 <luke-jr> retard
19:04 <BabyBug> no
19:04 <_TaZ_> luke-jr, didn't you say you were going to kill yourself yesterday?
19:05 <luke-jr> _TaZ_: nope
19:05 <_TaZ_> you told me, "I'm human, but not for long"
19:05 <_TaZ_> why not babybug?
19:06 <luke-jr> yeah, sure I did
19:07 <luke-jr> that doesn't even make sense
19:07 <luke-jr> :þ
19:07 <BabyBug> _TaZ_, too many americans
19:07 <_TaZ_> lol
19:08 <_TaZ_> How old are you luke-jr?
19:08 <luke-jr> 23
19:08 <luke-jr> married, 2 kids
19:08 <_TaZ_> I didn't ask for your life story, just asked how old you were.
19:08 <_TaZ_> :P
19:09 <luke-jr> _TaZ_: "married, 2 kids" tells more about my age than some linear number of years I've been alive
19:09 <_TaZ_> Is it suppose to show your maturity?
19:09 <ct|kyle> _TaZ_: time is irrelevant
19:10 <luke-jr> age is relevant when measured as experiences
19:10  * BabyBug is 82
19:10 <luke-jr> BabyBug: liar
19:10 <BabyBug> =D
19:11 <luke-jr> guru3 should unban imoutobot ☹
19:11 <BabyBug> lol
19:11 <BabyBug> why doesn't the bot just change it's username? :D
19:12 <_TaZ_> I can guess good on ages.
19:12 <_TaZ_> ct|kyle is probably 16
19:12 <_TaZ_> Babybug is probably 17-19
19:12 <_TaZ_> luke-jr is 9
19:12 <_TaZ_> wrtlprnft has no age, for he is a pokemon.
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19:13 <luke-jr> _TaZ_: you obviously fail at age guessing
19:13 <BabyBug> what level is he then?
19:13 <_TaZ_> level 54
19:13 <luke-jr> _TaZ_: what kernel version does wrtlprnft run?
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19:13 <luke-jr> BabyBug: the owner has no interest in it being here, let alone ban evading
19:13 <BabyBug> luke-jr, darnit!
19:14 <_TaZ_> idk luke-jr, you tell me
19:14 <_TaZ_> I bet hoax is 21
19:14 <_TaZ_> epsy is 15-16
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19:15 <epsy> no, I'm 2.6
19:15 <_TaZ_> Monkey is 19
19:15 <luke-jr> lol
19:15 <epsy> ahh you're far from it about monkey
19:15 <_TaZ_> K-Yo is 20
19:15 <_TaZ_> guru3 is 54
19:15 <_TaZ_> Lucifer is 67
19:15 <ct|kyle> LOL
19:15 <BabyBug> the only age he's guessed correctly is mine ><
19:16 <_TaZ_> Z-man-work is beyond time.
19:16 <_TaZ_> madmax is 21
19:16 <_TaZ_> ivantis is like...16
19:16 <ct|kyle> me?
19:16 <luke-jr> _TaZ_: go visit ivantis, we all know his address
19:16 <BabyBug> _TaZ_, if he was 16 he'd of broken the record for the worlds most immature 16 year old =P
19:16 <ct|kyle> oh lol off
19:16 <_TaZ_> lol
19:17 <ct|kyle> ivantis is 13 or 14
19:17 <_TaZ_> P4 is 18
19:17 <_TaZ_> Ah, i was close
19:17 <ct|kyle> 22*
19:17 <ct|kyle> i am 19
19:17 <BabyBug> _TaZ_, do you enjoy highlighting everyone in the channel?
19:17 <_TaZ_> Close too
19:17 <_TaZ_> Yes babybug
19:17 <_TaZ_> xD
19:17 <epsy> no, nobody enjoys highlighting Monkey_arma
19:17 <_TaZ_> Godtodd is 20
19:18 <_TaZ_> Godtodd is 20_
19:18 <_TaZ_> emphasis|zzzzz is 19
19:18 <_TaZ_> And who is Stewah?
19:19 <_TaZ_> You are not 23 luke-jr, stop lying.
19:21 <ct|kyle> GodTodd is older
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19:48 <z-man-work> epsy: How about having only two elimination modes:
19:48 <z-man-work> One mode eliminates the lowest scoring team and leaves colors as they are
19:49 <z-man-work> The other eliminates the unlocked, smallest team and reassigns colors as needed.
19:49 <z-man-work> the second mode would be the default, and for Elimination Style servers, you'd pick the first.
19:49 <epsy> well that's what TEAM_ELIMINATION_MODE is for
19:50 <z-man-work> Yeah, but it rabiately eliminates teams where recoloring would do.
19:51 <epsy> yeah, that wasn't really the intended behaviour, but that's what I tried to do with whichever mode was meant to keep first colors
19:54 <z-man-work> Can you think of a case where it would be useful to keep the colors, but eliminate the smallest team
19:55 <z-man-work> or reshuffle the colors to be minimal, yet elmiminate the lowest scorer?
19:56  * z-man-work tries to keep possible setting variants minimal
19:56 <z-man-work> Less settings -> less user confusion and less maintainance headaches.
19:59 <Monkey_arma> <_TaZ_> Monkey is 19 lol
19:59 <Monkey_arma> no
20:00 <Monkey_arma> Taz I think most people are older than you think they are.
20:00 <epsy> z-man-work, it's the original behaviour
20:01 <epsy> ie. keep the most players playing
20:02 <z-man-work> True. But if the colours get changed on top of that, would there be an undesired effect?
20:02 <epsy> confusion
20:02 <z-man-work> I don't think so. The only regular case where a team gets eliminated is when there's a SP to MP switch
20:03 <epsy> but well, for that behaviour(keeping most players playing), changing teams is not a big deal
20:03 <epsy> or when you narrow down max team count
20:03 <z-man-work> People get shuffled around anyway.
20:03 <epsy> more generally
20:04 <z-man-work> But you're right, of course
20:04 <z-man-work> If there's three teams playing
20:04 <z-man-work> and I change TEAMS_MAX to 2
20:05 <epsy> either you want the winners to be the winners and you wipe out the team that has the lowest score
20:05 <z-man-work> the least number of players finding themselves in a different team than before is if I eliminate team red.
20:05 <epsy> either you are switching from <whatever> to fortress, for example, and you don't want team red
20:07 <luke-jr> _TaZ_: get a clue, retard
20:07 <epsy> but well, keep most players playing fits to this purpose, I guess
20:07 <BabyBug> luke-jr, learn to let things drop!!
20:07 <z-man-work> All settings keep most players playing.
20:07 <BabyBug> god damn americans
20:07 <z-man-work> Those that get their team eliminated get redistributed to the other teams as long as there's room.
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20:08 <epsy> yeah, but that means less playing being moved around
20:09 <z-man-work> Hmm. That makes 4 options.
20:09 <z-man-work> 1. Eliminate smallest team, keep team colors. This moves the least amount of players.
20:10 <z-man-work> 2. Eliminate highest color team. This keeps the colors in the desired range, and moves the least amount of players under that restriction.
20:10 <epsy> better split that into two settings: who to keep, and if it should change colors around or not
20:10 <z-man-work> 3. Eliminate lowest scoring team, keep team colors. This, umm, eliminates the lowest scoring team.
20:11 <z-man-work> 4. Eliminate lowest scoring team and recolor.
20:11 <z-man-work> Hmm, scratch 4.
20:11 <z-man-work> That doesn't make much sense.
20:12 <z-man-work> Plus, darn, the three left are your original modes :)
20:12 <epsy> heh
20:13 <epsy> well, two settings give much more sense, when I think about it
20:13 <z-man-work> Not really.
20:13 <z-man-work> You definitely have your three elimination options, and the team color renaming makes not much sense.
20:13 <epsy> that's two behaviours which are quite sepparate
20:14 <z-man-work> Yeah, but there's really no case where recoloring a team makes sense.
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20:14 <epsy> well, yes there is: kicking out team red
20:14 <z-man-work> But elimination_mode 1 does that.
20:14 <epsy> yup
20:15 <epsy> except if there is no team blue/gold present
20:15 <epsy> did you fix that?
20:15 <z-man-work> no, is that an issue?
20:16 <z-man-work> That is, of course, yes, I did fix it, but I was intending to revert it :)
20:16 <epsy> say you got in a team sumo server Team red, Team gold and Team Violet
20:17 <epsy> in the state I last left that setting, it the teams would be gold & red
20:18 <z-man-work> True. I'll fix that, then.
20:22 <epsy> oh, also I just got a display list crash to happen here
20:22 <epsy> the first stuff I see before getting into display list stuff is rConsole::Render
20:23 <epsy> I can't remember if it did the same on trunk
20:23 <epsy> it happens right after the "Creating grid..." message
20:23 <epsy> now my problem, however, is that I really don't get a slightest clue about display lists
20:24 <epsy> there was some kind of object to fill the actual display list, which contains another display list..or...uhm
20:25 <z-man-work> Yeah.
20:25 <z-man-work> there's rDisplayList, which is the actual list
20:25 <z-man-work> and rDisplayListFiller, which fills the display list.
20:25 <epsy> that's pretty much what I could understand
20:26 <z-man-work> And that's about all there is :)
20:26 <z-man-work> rDisplayList calls glGenList in the constructor and glDelete Lists in the destructor
20:26 <z-man-work> and rDisplayListFiller glNewList in the constructor and glEndList in the destructor.
20:27 <z-man-work> It's a bit more involved because display lists can be canceled and whatnot, but that's the basics.
20:27 <z-man-work> Also, simple idea against the team red problem:
20:27 <epsy> so it herits of whatever comes out of glGenList?
20:27 <z-man-work> when a human joins and creates a new team, an AI team switches color.
20:28 <z-man-work> herits?
20:28 <epsy> a:public b ?
20:28 <z-man-work> ah, inherits.
20:28 <epsy> oh, whoops, I always forget that "in"
20:28 <z-man-work> glGenLists just returns an int
20:28 <z-man-work> which is stored in rDisplayList.
20:29 <z-man-work> A useful tool, I found, is bugle: http://www.opengl.org/sdk/tools/BuGLe/
20:29 <z-man-work> It's a lib you can put between the app and OpenGL
20:29 <z-man-work> and it can do stuff like log all calls.
20:31 <z-man-work> Bugger.
20:31 <z-man-work> What if SP_TEAMS_MAX is 4
20:31 <z-man-work> one player plays against the AI
20:32 <z-man-work> and then TWO players join at once, each creating a new team?
20:32 <z-man-work> And TEAMS_MAX is 2, of course.
20:32 <epsy> but, err, one will join and leave immediately
20:32 <epsy> s/^but, err, //
20:32 <z-man-work> Yeah, but which one?
20:33 <epsy> ah, yeah
20:33 <epsy> that
20:33 <epsy> my best guess is that you can't guess
20:33 <z-man-work> Hopefully, it'll be the one who joned last.
20:33 <epsy> pretty much how one can send his wish to join team X after guy A and get in before guy A
20:34 <z-man-work> Anyway, time to go home.
20:34 <epsy> bb
20:34 <z-man-work> If you could gather as much information as you can about the display list crash, that would be sweet.
20:35 <z-man-work> (callstack, recording, bugle trace, that kind of stuff :)
20:35 <epsy> well, recording seems to be not working in there
20:36 <z-man-work> Does it break right when you join a server?
20:36 <z-man-work> If yes, my latest commit has a fix :)
20:36 <epsy> urm, are buGLe hooks already somewhere or should I put them myself?
20:36 <z-man-work> It's automatic.
20:36 <epsy> at next round
20:36 <epsy> oh
20:36 <z-man-work> It uses LD_PRELOAD
20:37 <z-man-work> which directly lets application OpenGL calls go to bugle.
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21:51 <epsy> z-man: welcome home
21:54 <z-man> news of the display list crash?
21:55 <epsy> well, it does not seem to me as if there was a NULL vertice
21:56 <epsy> anyway, I have a bugle trace plus a backtrace
21:56 <epsy> and also a debug recording that won't play back properly
21:57 <epsy> should I trim the bugle trace? it got as big as 218MB (/me believed that he would run out of disk space)
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22:01 <epsy> here's the backtrace: http://epsy.teamkilled.net:8080/~epsy/bt
22:02 <z-man> err, yes, definitely trim it :) The last couple of hundred lines should be enough.
22:02 <epsy> here's the nonworking recording: http://epsy.teamkilled.net:8080/~epsy/displaylistcrash-epsy.aarec
22:02 <epsy> from the last glGenLists call?
22:03 <epsy> well, from the last glFinish call, that should sound fine
22:03 <epsy> http://epsy.teamkilled.net:8080/~epsy/gltrace
22:05 <epsy> oh and uhm, stderr might be really useful, too
22:05 <epsy> armagetronad_main: tnl/t_draw.c:203: bind_inputs: Assertion `inputs[i]->BufferObj->Pointer' failed.
22:07 <z-man> Ah. Mesa, right?
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22:08 <_TaZ_> Hello everyone!
22:10 <epsy> z-man, Mesa, indeed
22:11 <z-man> Can you run the bugle trace log through batch/checkbugle.py?
22:11 <z-man> pass it to its stdin.
22:12 <z-man> It may take a while to process, but the output should contain useful condensed information.
22:12 <z-man> Perhaps the reason for the crash lies in something done a few frames ago.
22:12 <z-man> The log sniplet definitely is fine.
22:16 <epsy> http://epsy.teamkilled.net:8080/~epsy/gltrace2
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22:25 <z-man> Nope, all legal.
22:26 <z-man> Though, I'm not sure about glPolygonOffset in display lists.
22:27 -!- KeY_3113 is now known as K-Yo
22:27 <z-man> It's not marked as illegal, IIRC.
22:30 <z-man> epsy: is your build a debug build?
22:30 <z-man> Duh. Yes.
22:31 <epsy> well, DEBUGLEVEL=3 spits out a lot of errors when compiling
22:39 <ivantis> i had a great server mod idea earlier today
22:39 <ivantis> dodgeball
22:39 <ivantis> not the CT-kind one
22:40 <ivantis> but you find a dodgeball, any color, you touch it to pick it up, then you can shoot it
22:40 <ivantis> when it touches a wall it is deactivated and the other team can pick it up
22:41 <epsy> how does that fit in the tron theme? (ie. drive people in your wall)
22:42 <ivantis> look at everything else that is out there with this game
22:42 <epsy> ??
22:43 <ivantis> epsy, what grade would you be in a US school?
22:43 <ivantis> how old are you?
22:43 <_TaZ_> lol
22:43 <epsy> how do I know rthat?
22:43 <epsy> I'm 15.
22:43 <ivantis> you'd be in 9th or 10th grade
22:43 <ivantis> im in 8th
22:44 <ivantis> what would you do, if a kid slapped you in the back of the neck?
22:44 <K-Yo> ivantis kick his ass!
22:44 <ivantis> this annoying guy at school did that to me today
22:44 <ivantis> i punched him in the face, but i hit his hand
22:44 <ivantis> because he was blocking
22:44 <K-Yo> haha
22:45 <_TaZ_> DId you get in trouble?
22:45 <K-Yo> I'm more like a peaceful guy
22:45 <ivantis> and it was right in front of a camera
22:45 <K-Yo> u suck
22:45 <K-Yo>  :P
22:45 <ivantis> right before school ended, in the hall
22:45 <BabyBug> epsy you're not 15
22:45 <K-Yo> BabyBug, orly?
22:45 <ivantis> I am more like a peaceful guy than you!!!!!!!!!!!!
22:45 <BabyBug> epsy is too french to be 15
22:45 <_TaZ_> yea rite
22:45 <ivantis> someone next to him said "Wow, didn't think you had that in you"
22:46  * ivantis has never punched anyone before
22:46 <ivantis> well, maybe a couple times
22:46 <_TaZ_> Do you have anger issues?
22:46 <ivantis> no
22:46 <BabyBug> what is it with men and resorting to violence >< nobs
22:47 <ivantis> violence? that was telling him to not do that again, without words
22:48 <ivantis> man
22:48 <_TaZ_> haha
22:48 <_TaZ_> I'm suprised you didn't get suspended
22:48 <ivantis> what kind of sick person did the logic operator coding for Microsoft Excel?
22:48 <ivantis> <> means not equal to
22:48 <ivantis> its !=, retard
22:48 <ivantis> like 1 <> 2
22:49 <BabyBug> it's also <> ivantis
22:49 <ivantis> …
22:49 <ivantis> rly?
22:49 <_TaZ_> yes
22:49 <_TaZ_> nub
22:49 <luke-jr> wtf
22:49 <luke-jr> <> is just for lamers
22:50 <luke-jr> like ivantis
22:50 <ivantis> yeah
22:50 <ivantis> and people who are against perl
22:50 <_TaZ_> lolz, go away luke-jr
22:50 <ivantis> because that would fail in perl
22:50 <luke-jr> it's for Python lusers!
22:50 <luke-jr> and Windozelusers
22:50 <ivantis> i have a class where we use Excel, Word, and powerpoint all class
22:50 <_TaZ_> ivantis!
22:50 <ivantis> booooooooooooooooring
22:51 <_TaZ_> I didn't tell you my server idea
22:51 <ivantis> i heard it
22:51 <_TaZ_> What ya think?
22:51 <ivantis> stupid idea
22:51 <luke-jr> LOL
22:51 <ivantis> voting? what does that have to do with tron?
22:51 <ivantis> make a new game of that
22:51 <luke-jr> _TaZ_: you really should stop telling people the idea
22:51 <luke-jr> it's a waste of time
22:51 <ivantis> not involving light cycles
22:51 <luke-jr> just do it and see how it works
22:51 <luke-jr> or doesn't
22:51 <_TaZ_> And know you go on the list including lucifer and luke-jr
22:51 <_TaZ_> I will do it!!
22:52 <luke-jr> http;//lightfoot.dashjr.org
22:52 <_TaZ_> and prove you wrong!
22:52 <luke-jr> get it hosted so lag won't hurt you
22:52 <_TaZ_> Like I always do
22:52 <luke-jr> http://lightfoot.dashjr.org
22:52 <ivantis> have fun finding someone who knows C++ and is insane enough to do your idea
22:52 <_TaZ_> Do you host good servers?
22:52  * ivantis hosts bad servers
22:52 <ivantis> er
22:52 <_TaZ_> Not the music idea ivantis.
22:52  * luke-jr hosts low-lag servers
22:52 <ivantis> server
22:52  * ivantis hosts a high-lag server
22:52 <_TaZ_> And plus, I already know C, so C++ shouldn't be that hard
22:53 <BabyBug> _TaZ_, i really don't like luke-jr but i have to admit his servers do have a low ping =)
22:53 <luke-jr> _TaZ_: wtf, you know the difference? :o
22:53 <luke-jr> and here I was thinking you were some stupid little kit
22:53 <luke-jr> kid*
22:53 <_TaZ_> Yes
22:53 <_TaZ_> Um no
22:53 <luke-jr> XD
22:53 <ivantis> luke-jr is alright, afterall, he is a perl person
22:53 <_TaZ_> I'm 20 son
22:53 <luke-jr> _TaZ_: you remind me of ivantis too much
22:53 <luke-jr> <.<
22:53 <_TaZ_> lolz
22:53 <ivantis> you are 20?
22:53 <ivantis> frl?
22:53 <_TaZ_> yep yep
22:54 <ivantis> im 14
22:54 <luke-jr> _TaZ_: ivantis freaked out when I found out his address
22:54 <_TaZ_> Then why are you talking to me?
22:54 <_TaZ_> jk ivantis <3
22:54 <_TaZ_> lol, are you serious?
22:54 <luke-jr> ivantis: you need to be 18 to be on FreeNode
22:54 <ivantis> yes
22:54 <ivantis> luke-jr: 13, tard
22:54 <luke-jr> ivantis: 18!
22:54 <luke-jr> for you
22:54 <ivantis> i know without your glasses 8s and 3s look the same
22:55 <_TaZ_> haha
22:55 <luke-jr> the rule is "you must be 13, unless your name is Ivan; then it's 18"
22:55 <luke-jr> but most people aren't named Ivan so they abbreviate it
22:55 <_TaZ_> Luke, your servers are expensive compared to box3rs
22:55 <epsy> erm, if I remember correctly, it is "you must be 13 to use nickserv"
22:55 <luke-jr> _TaZ_: wtf is box3rs?
22:55 <_TaZ_> You better not have some dial-up servers :P
22:55 <_TaZ_> He host 10 cents a slot
22:55 <luke-jr> no, colos
22:55 <epsy> but I'm on a shit net which does not have a motd, do I can't check
22:55 <luke-jr> and people kept bugging me for discounts all the time
22:56 <luke-jr> so I gave myself a little breathing room to give discounts
22:56 <luke-jr> :þ
22:56 <_TaZ_> Fine.
22:56 <Flex> luke-jr, you suck
22:56 <_TaZ_> You take paypal?
22:56 <luke-jr> Flex: wtf?
22:56 <luke-jr> _TaZ_: yeah
22:57 <ivantis> luke-jr: are you signed up on Elance?
22:57 <luke-jr> wtf is Elance
22:57 <_TaZ_> freelancing
22:57 <ivantis> elance.com
22:57 <_TaZ_> durr
22:57 <ivantis> freelancing
22:57 <ivantis> its great
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22:57 <_TaZ_> ivantis, you're so young to be doing freelance work
22:58 <ivantis> i am this close (| | <- that close) to getting a job
22:58 <ivantis> waiting for potential client to reply
22:58 <_TaZ_> lol
22:58 <ivantis> a little young? so what
22:58 <ivantis> they dont ask your age
22:58 <_TaZ_> I'm just saying...
22:58 <ivantis> and, i dont have a family to support/food to buy
22:58 <ivantis> free money!
22:58 <_TaZ_> That's expensive hosting luke-jr
22:59 <ivantis> yeah, ahem, about as much as just getting your own VPS hosting
23:01 <ivantis> man, all the other people who bid on this job are from india
23:01 <ivantis> the guy was really impressed with my example work
23:01 <ivantis> he said "Wow, you really know your stuff."
23:02 <ivantis> he hasnt singed on since the 26th
23:03 <luke-jr> probably cuz he figured out that you don't
23:03 <luke-jr> and teh Indians bid 50 cents/hr
23:03 <_TaZ_> lol
23:04 <ivantis> uh no
23:04 <ivantis> one guy bid $350, mine is $100
23:04 <ivantis> the lowest is $80
23:04 -!- emphasis|zzzzz is now known as emphasis
23:04 <ivantis> but i have already completed the project and had a discussion with the guy
23:05 <ivantis> and who is ivantis3?
23:05 <ivantis> …
23:05 <_TaZ_> Your bot
23:05 <ivantis> …
23:05 <ivantis> oh right
23:05 <ivantis> i forgot
23:05 <_TaZ_> -_-
23:05 <ivantis> me logger bot
23:06 <ivantis> _TaZ_: forget luke-jr hosting, get your own VPS server and you can host unlimited players/servers
23:06 <luke-jr> ROFL
23:06 <ivantis> &logs
23:06 <perlbot2> http://irclogs.space-lab.us
23:06 <_TaZ_> Haha
23:06 <ivantis> those are the logs ivantis3 keeps
23:07 <ivantis> luke-jr: are you a CPAN mirror?
23:07 <luke-jr> … no
23:07 <ivantis> lame
23:07 <ivantis> i thought you loved perl
23:07 <ivantis> only a true perl person would mirror CPAN
23:07 <ivantis> http://cpan-mirror.space-lab.us
23:07 <luke-jr> wtf
23:08 <luke-jr> ivantis: one of my customers uses 1300 GB/month
23:08 <ivantis> soo?
23:08 <luke-jr> don't got much to spare
23:08 <_TaZ_> VPS servers are expensive
23:08 <luke-jr> my highest end server has 2500 GB/mo total
23:08 <ivantis> slicehost?
23:08 <ivantis> luke-jr: dont you have a private server of your own?
23:09 <luke-jr> ivantis: 3
23:09 <luke-jr> oh, you mean at home
23:09 <ivantis> no i mean that isnt being used by clients
23:09 <luke-jr> sure, but it's got a crappy cable connection
23:09 <ivantis> well, mine is DSL
23:09 <luke-jr> I don't colo personal stuff
23:10 <ivantis> which reminds me i need to do another rsync
23:10 <ivantis> and put it in crontab
23:12 <ivantis> gawd rsync takes a long time
23:13 <ivantis> we are seeing mountains in my net usage graph
23:13 <_TaZ_> Is that your first time doing freelance work ivantis?
23:13 <ivantis> yez
23:13 <ivantis> wai?
23:13 <_TaZ_> Just asking
23:13 <ivantis> you on elance?
23:14 <_TaZ_> Nah.
23:14 <ivantis> you should
23:14 <_TaZ_> Maybe someday in the future.
23:14 <ivantis> i really like it
23:14 <ct|kyle> who do you have that uses 1/2 your bandwith
23:15 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: some guy
23:16 <luke-jr> he runs some kind of music service
23:16 <luke-jr> radio thing
23:16 <ct|kyle> hopefully you have him paying enough then
23:16 <ivantis> DuDE!
23:16 <ivantis> cpan.com/.net are those annoying domains that are full of ads
23:16 <ivantis> how stupid
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23:18 <luke-jr> …
23:19 <ivantis> …
23:19 <ivantis> ؟
23:19 <luke-jr> Play Yandere in #Anime
23:19 <ivantis> bleah
23:19 <epsy> omg woot
23:19 <epsy> another bot
23:19 <ivantis> irc games with luke-jr, ugh
23:20 <epsy> ivantis, fuck this
23:20 <epsy> you dont caer
23:20 <epsy> it's a fucking new irc bot!
23:20 <ivantis> except for my in-progress PRPG
23:20 <ivantis> PRPG=Perl RPG
23:21 <K-Yo> :P
23:21 <K-Yo> :O
23:22 <epsy> mm it's the iRPG
23:22 <ivantis> i thought of calling it iRPG
23:23 <ivantis> nah
23:23 <ivantis> pRPG
23:23 <epsy> like i(vantis)RPG
23:23 <ivantis> der
23:23 <ivantis> is what i was thinking
23:23 <luke-jr> _TaZ_: #Anime
23:24 <_TaZ_> Noo, crazy stuff goes on there.
23:24 <epsy> I don't want that shit bot back in here
23:24 <BabyBug> lol epsy
23:24 <_TaZ_> rofl
23:24 <epsy> it downs the level of the channel to bot commands
23:24 <luke-jr> _TaZ_: Yandere game
23:24 <ivantis> ivantis3: ping
23:24 <ivantis3> pong
23:25 <ivantis> WoT?
23:25 <ivantis> he replies in here?
23:25 <ivantis> i didnt even realize that
23:25 <ivantis> ivantis3: ignore-add *
23:25 <epsy> for WEEKS there had been absolutely no fucking other messages than BOT commands and BOT responses
23:25 <ivantis> ivantis3: ignore add *
23:25 <ivantis3> Error: The command "ignore add" is available in the Admin and Channel plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "ignore add".
23:25 <ivantis> ivantis3: admin ignore add *
23:25 <ivantis3> Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
23:25 <ivantis> piece of crap
23:25 <epsy> blahblahblah
23:25 <ivantis> im yo daddy!
23:26 <_TaZ_> .California epsy
23:26 <tronner> epsy is known to the state of California to causes Cancer
23:26 <epsy> ivantis3: Go away from me you paedo!
23:26 <ivantis> &california "Using bots for games"
23:26 <perlbot2> Using bots for games is known to the state of California to cause cancer.
23:26 <epsy> ivantis3: echo Ivantis go away from me you paedo!
23:26 <BabyBug> what happened to guru3 saying he was trying to cut down on bots ><
23:26 <ivantis> dude
23:27 <epsy> perlbot2 and ivantis3 shouldn't be here
23:27 <ivantis> ivantis3 is a logger bot, not a retard bot
23:27 <_TaZ_> .California peribot2
23:27 <tronner> peribot2 is known to the state of California to causes Cancer
23:27 <epsy> but dude, we ain' gottin no op'
23:27 <_TaZ_> .California perlbot2
23:27 <tronner> perlbot2 is known to the state of California to causes Cancer
23:27 <perlbot2> Yes, known is to the state of California to causes Cancer.
23:27 <ivantis> &california .California
23:27 <perlbot2> .California is known to the state of California to cause cancer.
23:27 <tronner> is known to the state of California to cause cancer. is known to the state of California to causes Cancer
23:27 <epsy> now stfu
23:28 <epsy> enough botcancer
23:28 <_TaZ_> &california epsy
23:28 <perlbot2> epsy is known to the state of California to cause cancer.
23:28 <K-Yo> .slap _TaZ_
23:28  * tronner slaps _TaZ_ around with the remote controlled, frozen, semi-functional channel operator
23:28 <K-Yo> .slap ivantis 2
23:28  * tronner slaps ivantis around with a good, spicy fairy
23:28 <_TaZ_> lolz
23:28  * tronner slaps ivantis around with a spiky, cushioned, gas-powered, german EULA
23:28 <_TaZ_> K-Yo, I choose you!
23:28 <K-Yo> _TaZ_, what for?
23:29 <_TaZ_> for s3x
23:29 <epsy> K-Yo, tell him that you're not really into pokemon right now
23:29 <_TaZ_> K-yo is a lever 32 pokemon
23:29 <K-Yo>  him that you're not really into pokemon right now
23:29 <K-Yo> wtf is s3x ?
23:29 <K-Yo> .g s3x
23:29 <tronner> K-Yo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MISm9XSBKsg - YouTube - Swedish Girls S3X Eachother!
23:29 <epsy> that's not telling
23:29 <z-man> epsy: Situation: Human team Blue fights against AI team Gold. Another player joins, creates new team, which is allowed. What is better:
23:29 <K-Yo> epsy, who gives a shit?
23:30 <ivantis> pokemon? how old are you, 10?
23:30 <K-Yo> ok s3x = sex?
23:30 <z-man> 1. New human gets on team red first, team red gets renamed to team gold as soon as the next round starts
23:30 <_TaZ_> Way to post pr0n K-Yo
23:30 <z-man> 2. New human gets on team gold immediately, but it's a new team gold; the CPU team gold gets renamed, but not recolored.
23:30 <ivantis> wtf is pr0n?
23:30 <ivantis> .g pr0n
23:30 <tronner> ivantis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet - Leet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
23:31 <epsy> _TaZ_, it's not because you write "you b*tch" that you're not insulting someone
23:31 <ivantis> ok pr0n = porn?
23:31 <z-man> Umm, ok, formulating the question, it's 1, obviously :)
23:31 <ivantis> hahahahahaehe
23:31 <_TaZ_> lolol
23:31 <epsy> z-man, ah?
23:31 <K-Yo> .slap ivantis 3
23:31  * tronner slaps ivantis around with the resurrected, colorful, teeny-weeny, powerful author
23:31  * tronner slaps ivantis around with an undead dschinn
23:31  * tronner slaps ivantis around with a remote controlled shelf of books
23:31 <_TaZ_> .g K-Yo
23:31 <tronner> _TaZ_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyo_(musician) - Kyo (musician) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
23:32 <_TaZ_> ohh I know
23:32 <_TaZ_> .g wrtlprnft
23:32 <tronner> _TaZ_: http://resource.armagetronad.net/ - Wrtlprnft&#39;s home server
23:33 <epsy> heh
23:33 <z-man> :0 wrtl is running the resource server now?
23:33  * z-man was away too long
23:34 <epsy> apparently, his server replied with that page, while it shouldn't
23:34 <luke-jr> z-man: it's got a few mirrors
23:34 <epsy> it's just google's bot which ended up there
23:34 <epsy> on that mirror
23:34 <z-man> ah.
23:34 <luke-jr> #fetch http://resource.armagetronad.net/resource/
23:35 <armabot> luke-jr: '<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2 Final//EN">\n<html>\n <head>\n  <title>Index of /resource</title>\n </head>\n <body>\n<h1>Index of /resource</h1>\n<table><tr><th><img src="/icons/blank.gif" alt="[ICO]"></th><th><a href="?C=N;O=D">Name</a></th><th><a href="?C=M;O=A">Last modified</a></th><th><a href="?C=S;O=A">Size</a></th><th><a href="?C=D;O=A">Description</a></th></tr><tr><th (5 more messages)
23:35 <luke-jr> #fetch http://resource.armagetronad.net/resource/
23:35 <armabot> luke-jr: '<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2 Final//EN">\n<html>\n <head>\n  <title>Index of /resource</title>\n </head>\n <body>\n<h1>Index of /resource</h1>\n<pre><img src="/icons/blank.gif" alt="Icon "> <a href="?C=N;O=D">Name</a>                    <a href="?C=M;O=A">Last modified</a>      <a href="?C=S;O=A">Size</a>  <a href="?C=D;O=A">Description</a><hr><img src="/icons/back.gif" (5 more messages)
23:35 <luke-jr> hmm
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23:35 <epsy> hmm @ HTML 3.2
23:35 <epsy> I guess that's apache
23:35 <luke-jr> broken it seems
23:36 <ivantis> i guess its more like luke-jr is a noob
23:36 <_TaZ_> haha
23:36 <ivantis> why is / permission denied
23:36 <ivantis> noob
23:36  * luke-jr removes wrtlprnft from the resource round-robin
23:36 <luke-jr> ivantis: because / is undefined
23:37 <epsy> why does it HAVE to be in /resource/ ?
23:37 <epsy> that breaks much stuff
23:37 <epsy> (think about w3's validators)
23:37 <ivantis> &calc /
23:37 <luke-jr> epsy: why does w3's validator care?
23:37 <ivantis> maybe it is undefined
23:37 <ivantis> &calc 1+1
23:37 <perlbot2> 2
23:37 <ivantis> yay! he is smart
23:38 <epsy> luke-jr, because when it looks for the DTD, it will fail
23:38 <epsy> ivantis:
23:38 <luke-jr> epsy: why would it look at / at all?
23:38 <epsy> &calc i+i
23:38 <epsy> because the DTDs are referenced as /AATeam/ThatOther.dtd
23:39 <luke-jr> uhh
23:39 <luke-jr> w3 validates maps?
23:39 <ivantis> &calc only takes matches [1234567890\/\+\-\*]+, numskull
23:39 <epsy> the resource spec wants us to look for that from the /resource/ directory, but generally that means from the base domain name
23:39 <epsy> it should
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23:48 <epsy> good night
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23:50 <ivantis> luke-jr: what file in tron source are all of the player references defined? like player->IsHuman(), player->Name
23:54 <luke-jr> ]later tell wrtlprnft plz fix resource mirror and let me know when
23:54 <ivantis> you not going to answer me?
23:54 <ivantis> meanie
23:54 <luke-jr> no, I don't answer stupid questions
23:55 <BabyBug> lol
23:55 <ivantis> by stupid question, you mean you are to stupid to know the answer
23:56 <luke-jr> I mean it makes no sense.
23:56 <ivantis> i mean the file that waits for players to join
23:56 <ivantis> gGame?
23:56 <luke-jr> if I can't figure out what you're asking, and it sounds dumb, I'm not going to bother trying to wrap my head around it.
23:56 <ivantis> let me dumb it down for you
23:57 <ivantis> what is the file that waits for connections, then modifies the player's default … stuff, like IsHuman, Name
23:57 <ivantis> actually,
23:58 <BabyBug> ivantis, you're beginning to babble
23:58 <ivantis> if i call an if statement, asking about a variable, if the variable is non-existant, will it yell at me?
23:59 <ivantis> //bool poop = false;
23:59 <ivantis> if (!poop) { …
23:59 <ivantis> but the first line is commented
23:59 <ivantis> will the if yell at me?

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00:32 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8630 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/eTeam.cpp src/engine/eTeam.h src/tron/gGame.cpp):
00:32 <armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
00:32 <armabot> armagetronad: Teams that haven't played a single round are now potentially given a new color at round start.
00:32 <armabot> armagetronad: Hopefully, this is the really final good way to fix bug 261469.
00:32 <armabot> armagetronad: Also, the recoloring if colorIndex >= maxTeams only happens in the
00:32 <armabot> armagetronad: elimination mode where the highest colored team gets eliminated first
00:32 <armabot> armagetronad: to avoid confusion by too many recolorings.
00:34  * z-man is sick of team colors
00:39 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r8631 /www/mainsite/links.php: hosting links (not just mine)
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01:26 <luke-jr> no Stewah
01:26 <Stewah> oh alright.
01:26 <luke-jr> Stewah: would you like to join us for a game of Yandere in #Anime ?
01:27 <Stewah> Yandere?
01:27 <luke-jr> like Werewolves
01:27 <Stewah> hrm, not at this moment, but I might join later on
01:27 <luke-jr> ok
01:27 <Stewah> I have to work on stuff right now.
01:27 <luke-jr> for future reference, the trigger is !yandere
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02:20 <madmax> well nemo's post really got things going with 0.2.8 \o/
02:22 <BabyBug> ?
02:22 <BabyBug> madmax?
02:23 <madmax> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18119&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=120
02:23 <madmax> read dlh's post
02:23 <madmax> then check the ammount of commits since then
02:24 <BabyBug> oh, lol
02:24 <madmax> (~19)
02:27 <BabyBug> z-man-work, made that thread a year ago O.o
02:28 <BabyBug> lmao
02:29 <ivantis> someone look at my new windows layout for my computer
02:30 <ivantis> http://space-lab.us/stuff/screen.png
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02:49 <luke-jr> http://sysweb.cs.toronto.edu/projects/7
02:49 <luke-jr> should I play Arma remotely from my servers? XD
04:04 <ivantis> luke-jr: what a dumb idea
04:04 <ivantis> and i thought that .edu tlds were given only to universities in the USA
04:04 <ivantis> maybe just north america
04:05 <luke-jr> ivantis: …
04:06 <ivantis> for other countries, isnt it .edu.cc?
04:06 <ivantis> like .edu.cn
04:08 <ivantis> wikipedia: .edu (education) is the sponsored top-level domain for educational institutions, primarily those in the United States and the Philippines.
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04:18 <Ratchet--> hi
04:18 <Ratchet--> just wanted to clarify
04:18 <Ratchet--> lukes on his period
04:19 <Ratchet--> (when is he not?)
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04:23 <Ratchet--> anyone here ?
04:23 <luke-jr> me
04:23 <luke-jr> now go stfu
04:26 <ct|kyle> where s Lucifer when we need him
04:27 <luke-jr> Texas?
04:32 <ivantis> Ratchet--: WUT?
04:33 <ivantis> beep me when you reply, im doing something else
04:33 <ivantis> (put my nick in your text)
04:37 <Ratchet--> ivantis i replied ;P
04:37 <ivantis> wut u want?
04:37 <Ratchet--> just wanted to say hi ;D
04:38 <ivantis> hi...
04:38 <ivantis> ؟
04:38 <ivantis> lame
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06:23 <SageLord> :S
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14:23 <epsy> hello SageLord
14:26 <PhysiX> hay monk hay all
14:26 <SageLord> hi epsy
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14:28 <epsy> what brings you here? :)
14:28 <SageLord> lol, apparently irc is the place to be :P
14:29 <epsy> o'rly?
14:29 <SageLord> (:
14:30 <epsy> another channel that might interest you is #armagetron.tournaments , I guess
14:30 <SageLord> all right, cool, thanks
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15:58 <Physix> mojnk is the server on yet?
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16:12 <epsy> Physix, ??
16:12 <Physix> ?
16:12 <epsy> [15:58] <Physix>: mojnk is the server on yet?
16:13 <Physix> yea...we make a funwar vs ct in 1 hour
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16:47 <PhysiX> hay all
16:49 <Monkey_arma> hey PhysiX
16:49 <PhysiX> hjay monk
16:49 <PhysiX> is the server on now?
16:49 <Monkey_arma> yes im there
16:50 <PhysiX> kl
16:50 <K-Yo> PhysiX, :)
16:51 <PhysiX> :)
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17:00 <K-Yo> BabyBug, u here?
17:01 <K-Yo> SageLord, u here?
17:01 <BabyBug> K-Yo
17:01 <K-Yo> BabyBug, fancy a match now?
17:01 <BabyBug> ?
17:01 <K-Yo> BabyBug, we lack players
17:01 <BabyBug> for what? what on earth are you talking about?
17:02 <K-Yo> BabyBug, armagetron
17:02 <K-Yo> it's a game
17:02 <K-Yo> and sometimes, we play matches :)
17:02 <BabyBug> oh, ok
17:04 <BabyBug> Ok then, which server K-Yo?
17:08 <epsy> :o
17:09 <K-Yo> BabyBug, CT vs new money
17:09 <K-Yo> epsy, wanna play?
17:09 <K-Yo> we still miss one player
17:09 <epsy> okay
17:10 <K-Yo> :)
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19:13 <armabot> Corn: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
19:13 <Corn> oops
19:15 <Corn> ffs guys no fort games even the day before the ladle? i need to practice :P
19:17 <akira_arma> well
19:17 <akira_arma> fort is dead
19:17 <akira_arma> :)
19:17 <akira_arma> :(
19:17 <Corn> nah
19:17 <akira_arma> not?
19:17 <Corn> people are just too lazy to start a game
19:17 <akira_arma> everyone and thier mother ar epalying sumo
19:17 <akira_arma> when i try to get them to fort..
19:17 <akira_arma> "no thanks"
19:17 <Corn> cause its easy to start a sumo game
19:18 <Corn> from what i see a lot of people play sumo cause theres no fort game going on
19:18 <Corn> and they dont want to try to get one started
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19:19 <akira_arma> well actually i see many enjoying sumo more than fort
19:20  * BabyBug isnt sure which one she enjoys more
19:20 <Corn> i cant speak for them then, because i'd always take a good fortress game over a good sumo
19:20 <BabyBug> No Rubber > * though =D
19:21 <Corn> sumo i see almost the same thing happening every time, just a different strain. Fortress is more diverse theres more strategies that take place.
19:21 <BabyBug> madmax, when were you last on nexus?
19:22 <madmax> some days ago
19:22 <BabyBug> no ones ever on there anymore =(
19:23 <madmax> yeah...
19:24 <BabyBug> i blame you, you were too good and scared everyone off ><
19:24 <madmax> funny that some nexus regulars are now seen on sumo
19:25 <BabyBug> ya, next best thing really
19:30  * BabyBug despises the person who coded the rubber bit into arma :@
19:31 <epsy> BabyBug, commits > *
19:32 <BabyBug> epsy, So commit the deletion of rubber =D
19:35 <epsy> :O
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19:46 <ivantis> LuKe-Jr LeFt?!?
19:46 <ivantis> aNd CaMe BaCk?
19:46 <ivantis> 0_0
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20:44 <Monkey_arma> corn actually i had a fort practice match today
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20:59 <epsy> Corn: ping
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22:17 <_TaZ_> Hello everyone!
22:19 <noob13> hi
22:20 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r928 Model rendering uses display lists even if they're blacklist...
22:21 <BabyBug> \o/
22:21 <_TaZ_> hey noob13 and Babybig <3
22:22 <_TaZ_> babybug
22:23 <epsy> BabyBig! :D
22:24  * BabyBug is only 4ft 11
22:24 <_TaZ_> aww, you're short. ;)
22:24 <Flex> gnome!
22:25 <BabyBug> epsy <3
22:27 <epsy> :o
22:32 <BabyBug> why does no one ever reply with a <3
22:32 <BabyBug> silly people
22:32 <epsy> 2
22:33 <BabyBug> ...
22:33 <epsy> <3
22:33 <BabyBug> finally! see madmax it's not that hard!
22:33 <epsy> vicctorrryyy
22:35 <madmax> :)
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23:18 <epsy> Corn: ping
23:18 <Corn> sorry?
23:19 <epsy> you should edit your nick on wp.com :)
23:19 <epsy> https://playfortress.wordpress.com/wp-admin/profile.php
23:19 <Corn> ok
23:21 <Corn> changed it
23:21 <epsy> err, you're still showing up as "cornarma"
23:22 <epsy> did you choose the right thing near "Display name publicly as" ?
23:22 <Corn> yeah
23:23 <epsy> ah, yeah, that's better
23:23 <epsy> did you recieve my PM?
23:23 <Corn> didnt see it
23:24 <epsy> blah
23:24 <epsy> you're using pjirc?
23:24 <epsy> try this instead: http://embed.mibbit.com/?server=irc.freenode.net&channel=%23armagetron%2C%23armagetron.tourneys&forcePrompt=true
23:24 <Corn> yeah im too lazy to download an irc
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23:25 <Corn> k
23:25 <epsy> :)
23:25 <epsy> bookmark it
23:27 <Corn> k
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23:37 <Corn> who are you
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23:42 <epsy> Corn, me? :)
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23:48 <Lizmatic> people for bugfarm?
23:49 <Corn> no the Conr guy
23:49 <Lizmatic> .. o_O?
23:49 <epsy> [23:41] <epsy>: Corn, me? :)
23:49 <epsy> [23:47] * Lizmatic [n=Lizmatic@78-27-12-206.dsl.alice.nl] a rejoint #armagetron
23:49 <Corn> w/e
23:49 <K-Yo> Corn, that would be me
23:50 <G5> epsy: Im on DS team sumo ... waiting for real players ...
23:51 <epsy> coming
23:52  * BabyBug cuddles Lizmatic 
23:52  * Lizmatic blushes
23:53 <BabyBug> =D
23:53 <Lizmatic> yes, come bugfarm!
23:53  * ct|kyle cuddles BabyBug
23:53  * BabyBug stabs ct|kyle
23:53 <ct|kyle> :(
23:53 <Lizmatic> yeah kyle
23:53 <Lizmatic> mine!
23:53  * ct|kyle cuddles Lizmatic
23:54  * BabyBug stabs ct|kyle
23:55 <Lizmatic> come to bugfarm ya slowpokes
23:55  * ct|kyle picks up the golden gun PP7 and shoots BabyBug
23:55 <ct|kyle> rm gun

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00:16 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8633 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. configure.ac): Manuel Moos: -Wconversion got a lot more pedantic and annoying in GCC 4.3, so moving it up one code level.
00:22 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r929 -Wconversion got a lot more pedantic and annoying in GCC 4.3...
00:22 <BabyBug> \o.
00:26 <G5> epsy: I think noone likes DS server ... reason unknown.
00:26 <epsy> G5: yeah so before ¦×¦.Team.Sumo.Server was put up it was ¦×¦.Fortress.Server
00:27 <epsy> there was really nobody playign in it except for matches
00:27 <epsy> it was said quite laggy
00:27 <G5> epsy: And neither X servers :)
00:27 <epsy> (more than café)
00:27 <epsy> etc etc
00:27 <epsy> until we decided to take over the TST, so that we would decide to run a team sumo server
00:27 <epsy> there was no other at that moment
00:28 <epsy> also since ¦×¦ was quite known for having won the past few ladles, it had quite of a good image
00:28 <epsy> it made full room especially since there was no other team sumo server
00:28 <G5> e.g. people always play on CT wild fortress (old one, no login) ... noone plays the new one ...
00:28 <epsy> then wrtl's machine stops working
00:29 <epsy> the new one is not convivial
00:29 <epsy> you are FORCED to authenticate also with a FORCED authority
00:29 <epsy> that's far from being a cool server
00:29 <G5> it does?
00:29 <epsy> yes
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00:29 <epsy> so, once wrtl's machine had died, there was no fortress server and no team sumo server
00:30 <epsy> for weeks
00:30 <epsy> then eddie came up with his locked-to-@forums and really made it worse
00:31 <G5> I can play the new wild fortress without login ...
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00:31 <epsy> many believed fortress and sumo would die, and it was pretty much going in this direction
00:31 <epsy> G5, at that time it wasn't
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00:32 <epsy> then P4 came up with a really weird team sumo server, and that's just because there was no other one that it was played
00:32 <epsy> K-Yo came up with a Fortress café clone which revealed to not be a clone
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00:33 <epsy> and well, they changed the basics of fortress and team sumo quite much
00:33 <G5> epsy: sure. all correct. but still it is not predictable if a new server will be a success (= lots of people playing on is)
00:33 <epsy> so much that the default settings for ladle were changed, and team sumo now plays in very long matches(let's forget about the weird colors))
00:34 <epsy> thank god I'm here to not let that uberleet match winning score gain on the TST, really
00:35 <epsy> well, DS's server never profited from such factors, plus it has an akward name
00:35 <epsy> and well, from what I heard, DS's server was doing pretty good at the TST
00:36 <epsy> so we can only lay it on visibility
00:36 <G5> Strange name? Look at "-=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF)" ...
00:36 <G5> Some DS server are good (ping etc.) others arent.
00:36 <Lizmatic> babybug you leaver
00:36 <Lizmatic> >:)
00:36 <epsy> I guess "dogfight" is put in value, and ID is also a well known clan across different LMS arenas
00:36 <BabyBug> Lizmatic, you fatty
00:37 <BabyBug> >:)
00:37 <BabyBug> mwahaha no reply to that one =D
00:38 <G5> We wont solve it ... and my bed is waiting for me ... gnite epsy (and others)
00:38  * Lizmatic cries
00:38 <epsy> gn
00:38  * P4 loves pepsy
00:38 <BabyBug> I'm sowwie =( *cuddles*
00:39  * epsy dislikes P4's tastes
00:39 <Lizmatic> a BabyHug ^^
00:39 <BabyBug> ^^
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00:44 <BabyBug> \o/
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00:54 <epsy> There are 5 Guest users online
00:55 <epsy>  Guest   	 Sun Dec 07, 2008 12:54 am   	 Viewing Private Messages
00:55 <epsy> phpbb is so epic sometimes
00:56 <K-Yo> epsy, please don't hl me for ur bs, thx
00:56 <epsy> my bullshit?
00:57 <epsy> as soon as we are talking about other servers than yours IT'S BULLSHIT
00:58 <epsy> as soon as we dare to compare it to another server IT'S BULLSHIT
00:59 <epsy> as soon as we say it got flaws IT'S BULLSHIT
00:59 <epsy> thanks for clearing up on your opinions..
00:59 <Flex> now take your medicine epsy. gn
01:01 <Lizmatic> girls don't like boys girls like cars and money
01:02 <epsy> but money likes boyz!
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01:18 <iccleoldme> =(
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01:19 <epsy> cle?
01:23 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r934 More adaptions to GCC 4.3.... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r933 Disabling signed overflow warnings. They happen easily with ... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r932 Added detection for newer versions of Mesa Software renderin... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r931 Oops, corrected memset (had value and len parameters swapped... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r930 First batch of adaptions to new warnings of GCC 4.3.
01:23 <BabyBug> \o/ \o/ \o/
01:24 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8635 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/network/nKrawall.cpp): Manuel Moos: Oops, corrected memset (had value and len parameters swapped).
01:25 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8636 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/render/rScreen.cpp): Manuel Moos: Added detection for newer versions of Mesa Software rendering.
01:25 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8637 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. configure.ac): Manuel Moos: Disabling signed overflow warnings. They happen easily with templates.
01:26 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8638 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (5 files in 4 dirs): Manuel Moos: More adaptions to GCC 4.3.
01:29 <luke-jr> uh, more?
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01:38 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Paralyzed/server/ctfs/ctfs-1.aamap.xml: Resource by Paralyzed
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01:45 <z-man> luke-jr: yeah. 4.3 is quite bitchy.
01:45 <z-man> But it found two real bugs that way, so I'm not complaining.
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01:53 <luke-jr> z-man: IIRC, should work in 4.3…
01:54 <luke-jr> so not sure why there'd be more to do
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02:33 <madmax> BabyBug: #sd nexus
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02:44 <luke-jr> 'beta'‼
02:44 <luke-jr> wtf
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03:05 <madmax> #ping
03:05 <armabot> pong
03:06 <madmax> Corn: did WW just explode?
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04:42 <Durka_> \o
04:45 <Monkey_arma> durrrrrrrrkaaaaaaaaaaa
04:46 <Monkey_arma> "you my friend are an ..."
04:46 <Durka_> yea
04:46 <Durka_> we have a love/hate relationship :P
04:46 <Monkey_arma> lolification
04:46 <Durka_> xD
04:47 <Monkey_arma> well i go bed now. ladle day...ah
04:47 <Monkey_arma> gn
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04:47 <Durka_> damn
04:47 <Durka_> i needed to talk to him
04:51 <ct|kyle> oi Durka_
04:51 <Durka_> \oi
04:52 <ct|kyle> now if i can just get this 5 page paper completed i will be able to play in ladle tomorrow
04:54 <Durka_> xD
04:54 <SageLord> :o
04:55 <SageLord> what are you writing your paper about?
04:55 <ct|kyle> i switched topics just tonight :P from the SEC to how free software effect our economy
04:56 <SageLord> hmm, interesting
04:56 <ct|kyle> i am scrapping on old open source paper for this one
04:57 <ct|kyle> about 1 page is from an old paper
04:57 <SageLord> nice
04:59 <Durka_> SageLord
04:59 <SageLord> Durka_
05:00 <Durka_> what?
05:00 <SageLord> nothin.
05:00 <Durka_> d:
05:00 <SageLord> :P
05:06 <ct|kyle> Durka_
05:07 <Durka_> what?
05:07 <ct|kyle> i forgot :/
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05:09 <Durka_> :X
05:09 <ext> http://armagetron.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,416.msg7448.html#msg7448
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05:14 <luke-jr> The topic or board you are looking for appears to be either missing or off limits to you.
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05:20 <SageLord> sup, we're playing fortress in pink tomatoes US server if anyone wants to come
05:23 <luke-jr> SageLord: u should play on mine
05:24 <ct|kyle> does anyone have a seconds US ladle server for us tomorrow?
05:25 <SageLord> all right luke
05:25 <SageLord> is it the one thats going to be used tomorrow?
05:28 <SageLord> whats the server called?
05:33 <luke-jr> ask durka
05:33 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: I do, rtff
05:34 <ct|kyle> .si US
05:34 <tronner> ct|kyle: {Delicious Desserts} Racing II: Players (10/14): Chicken Soup, dBd|slyshot_SOB, dßdPíng, D|WAYNE|CRTER, Fried Chicken, Hellen Keller, is me, kauidsu, popcorn lava, techno chiken
05:34 <ct|kyle> .si US F
05:34 <tronner> ct|kyle: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “us f” at the moment, sorry.
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08:25 <SageLord> #join twisted-rats
08:25 <armabot> SageLord: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
08:25 <SageLord> whoops ;P
08:25 <SageLord> <<< is still new at this
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13:56 <Lizmatic> bugfarm tourny in 5mins for the interested ^^
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15:22 <freako5> zmanuel : is ur server up again?
15:22 <freako5> ladle*
15:23 <K-Yo> hey freako5
15:23 <freako5> hey k-yo :)
15:23 <freako5> #sd z-mans
15:23 <armabot> freako5: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “z-mans” at the moment, sorry.
15:24 <freako5> #sd z-man
15:24 <armabot> freako5: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “z-man” at the moment, sorry.
15:25 <epsy> received event
15:25 <epsy> Got event hello_world :)
15:25 <epsy> w00t!
15:26 <K-Yo> freako5, wrtl stuff down
15:26 <K-Yo> .servers
15:26 <tronner> K-Yo: This data is 47778 seconds old; [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (11/12), {Delicious Desserts} Racing II (10/14), |FA| BLACK TAR (9/16), The YELLOW Submarine (9/16), |FA| Devils Rings! (8/16), Birdy's Nest (Loose DF) (8/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (8/10), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (8/12), Crazy-Tronners Hexperimental sumo (8/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (7/14), The Fight (1 more message)
15:26 <K-Yo>  This data is 47778 seconds old;
15:27 <K-Yo> .calc 47778/(60*60)
15:27 <tronner> K-Yo: 13.2716666667
15:27 <K-Yo> 13 hours
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15:54 <teabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-eevent] r705 test case that also links. does only work from server to cli...
15:55 <BabyBug> \o/
15:58 <akira_arma> hi freako
16:22 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Paralyzed/race/psychopath-2.aamap.xml: Resource by Paralyzed
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16:24 <Paralyzed> hey anyone there
16:24 <BabyBug> hiho
16:24 <Paralyzed> good with maps?
16:25 <pavelo> what seems to be the problem ?
16:25 <Paralyzed> ugh well it seems once in a dark day
16:25 <Paralyzed> my maps wont preview on the resource
16:25 <Paralyzed> i think its something im doing wrong in xml file
16:26 <pavelo> can i see it?
16:26 <Paralyzed> http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/Paralyzed/race/psychopath-2.aamap.xml
16:26 <Paralyzed> i wont my maps to preview and its just sometimes annoying
16:26 <Paralyzed> want*
16:33 <pavelo> the map seems fine to me, for the preview thingy you should probably talk to luke (at least i think he's in charge of resources)
16:33 <Paralyzed> no
16:34 <Paralyzed> luke will get pissed
16:34 <pavelo> ok, whatever
16:35 <K-Yo> hmmm
16:35 <K-Yo> http://maptools.armagetronad.net/map-preview/
16:36 <Paralyzed> ArgumentError: insufficient/odd number of points specified: 2 /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rmagick-1.15.12/lib/rvg/embellishable.rb:135:in `polypoints' /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rmagick-1.15.12/lib/rvg/embellishable.rb:166:in `initialize' /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rmagick-1.15.12/lib/rvg/embellishable.rb:324:in `new' /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rmagick-1.15.12/lib/rvg/embellishable.rb:324:in `polyline' /home/guru3/map-preview/lib/map_preview/rende
16:36 <Paralyzed> xD
16:38 <K-Yo> I saw the same thing
16:39 <K-Yo> Paralyzed, line 228
16:40 <Paralyzed> ok
16:40 <Paralyzed> let me see line 227
16:40 <Paralyzed> 228
16:40 <Paralyzed> (counts) ROFL
16:40 <K-Yo> u count?
16:40 <K-Yo> get an editor that counrs for you
16:40 <pavelo> to 228 ?
16:40 <Paralyzed> im gonna use php pad
16:40 <Paralyzed> XD
16:41 <K-Yo> Paralyzed, look for this:
16:41 <K-Yo>    <Wall height="50">
16:41 <K-Yo>     <Point x="448" y="-464"/>
16:41 <K-Yo>    </Wall>
16:41 <pavelo> what kind of an editor does not display line numbers?
16:41 <K-Yo> pavelo, notepad under windows :P
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16:41 <Paralyzed> pathhhh
16:41 <pavelo> it doesn't ? man...
16:41 <K-Yo> hehe
16:42 <BabyBug> notepad does
16:42 <Paralyzed> path , ratchet told me you know a hack or somewhat to make previews work on resource
16:42 <Pathetique> yo
16:42 <BabyBug> !
16:42 <K-Yo> pavelo, anyway, I only trust notepad++ for any editing now :P
16:42 <Pathetique> o rly?
16:42 <Pathetique> oh yeah
16:42 <Paralyzed> yes rly
16:42 <Pathetique> uh
16:42 <K-Yo> Paralyzed, did you modify the line?
16:42 <Pathetique> hmmm
16:42 <Paralyzed> whats the trick ;)
16:42 <K-Yo> Paralyzed, make a map with no error :)
16:42 <Pathetique> lemme find it
16:42 <Paralyzed> lol
16:42 <Paralyzed> ok
16:42 <Pathetique> LOL@K-Yo
16:42 <Paralyzed> LOL@mehavingnopreivews =[
16:42 <Pathetique> Indeed. Its not that hard.
16:43 <pavelo> i don't know why people don't like one point lines
16:43 <Paralyzed> yea but hold on im on windows so uhm
16:43 <Paralyzed> no counting lines
16:43 <Paralyzed> redownloading php pad
16:43 <Paralyzed> this is random but
16:44 <Paralyzed> i found that if u turn off sparks you get more fps on tron
16:44 <Paralyzed> big difference for me
16:45 <pavelo> i turn off everything, floor included
16:45 <K-Yo> Paralyzed, try CTRL + F
16:46 <Paralyzed> find function?
16:46 <K-Yo> then search for <Point x="448" y="-464"/>
16:46 <Paralyzed> ok ty
16:46 <K-Yo> yes :)
16:46 <Paralyzed> ok
16:46 <Paralyzed> i dont notice the error
16:46 <K-Yo> there is only one point
16:47 <K-Yo> you need at least 2 to make a line
16:47 <K-Yo> you know?
16:47 <K-Yo> :P
16:47 <Concord> lol
16:47 <Pathetique> pavelo: without the floor, I get really freaked out
16:47 <Pathetique> It makes me dizzy
16:47 <K-Yo> <pavelo> i don't know why people don't like one point lines
16:47 <K-Yo> sad, but true, even programs don't like them
16:47 <Paralyzed> so what would be the "best" thing to do..
16:47 <Pathetique> fart in a can
16:48 <Pathetique> put the lid on
16:48  * Paralyzed gets a can
16:48 <Pathetique> and save it for a year
16:48 <K-Yo> pavelo, could you, by any chance, compile vectron and make me a windows binary :) ?
16:48 <Pathetique> Vectron?
16:48 <Pathetique> oic
16:49 <Monkey_arma> hi Pathetique
16:49 <Pathetique> MONKEY!
16:49 <pavelo> umm... not really.... and why would you need it ?
16:49 <Pathetique> I was looking for the server.
16:49 <K-Yo> pavelo, it's a tool to make maps no?
16:49 <pavelo> i don't think it can do anything usefull atm
16:49 <K-Yo> okay
16:50 <K-Yo> It seemed cool on screenshots etc
16:50 <Pathetique> lol
16:50 <K-Yo> I'll wait some more then :)
16:50 <pavelo> it's pretty much dead now :/
16:50 <K-Yo> saw that
16:50 <K-Yo> 6 months inactivity
16:50 <pavelo> i don't have time to work on it now, and hoop seems to have given up too
16:50 <Pathetique> Paralyzed
16:50 <Pathetique> DO you have firefox?
16:51 <pavelo> if you wanna try compiling it, you could try cygwin... it shouldn't be that difficult to make it compile
16:52 <K-Yo> hmmm
16:52 <K-Yo> I have cygwin
16:54 <pavelo> if you wanna try I'd be willing to help
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16:55 <Concord> hi corn
16:55 <K-Yo> pavelo, 1rst error
16:56 <pavelo> which is?
16:56 <Monkey_arma> hi Corn
16:56 <Corn> hey
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16:57 <Pathetique> Monkey
16:57 <Pathetique> when are we starting
16:58 <Monkey_arma> !!
16:58 <Concord> lol
16:58 <Paralyzed> Pathetique: yes
16:58 <Monkey_arma> i sent you all emails!
16:58 <K-Yo> Paralyzed, works now?
16:58 <Paralyzed> not exactly.
16:58 <Monkey_arma> i even converted to every timezone
16:58 -!- SageLord [n=aaron_wo@adsl-69-154-197-83.dsl.bumttx.swbell.net] has joined #armagetron
16:58 <Pathetique> Yes you did
16:58 <Monkey_arma> hio SageLord
16:58 <Corn5> yo sage
16:58 <Pathetique> We start in 1 minute, or something.
16:58 <SageLord> sup guys, ready for ladle? :)
16:58 <Concord> oh yeah
16:59 <Monkey_arma> Pathetique wake up
16:59 <Corn5> yeh
16:59 <Corn5> sage how did you sleep lmfao
16:59 <SageLord> what's going on?
16:59 <Paralyzed>  i have no idea why its not working
16:59 <SageLord> man, was hard at first...  kept hearing tron bikes buzzing in my ears
16:59 <Pathetique> lol
16:59 <K-Yo> Paralyzed, you changed the line?
16:59 <Paralyzed> yes i did
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17:06 <Corn> hey wrtl
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17:10 <freako> #sd Z-man
17:10 <armabot> freako: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “z-man” at the moment, sorry.
17:11 <BabyBug> does wrtlprnft ever speak? O.o
17:11 <freako> is there news already about z-mans server   (zmanuel)
17:12 <Pathetique> Wrtl speaks once in a blue moon
17:12 <pavelo> freako: it's up
17:12 <pavelo> btw, are you playing ?
17:13 <freako> ah i see it
17:14 <freako> I guess I end up as a spot-filler for teams that dont have enough players....\
17:16 <P4> wrtlprnft_, is there anything wrong with the lastseen database?
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17:16 <Pathetique> lol
17:16 <P4> oh…
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17:16 <Pathetique> \o lack
17:17 <freako> getting busy here :)
17:17 <Lackadaisical> o/
17:17 <freako> brb, dinner
17:19  * BabyBug cuddles Lackadaisical 
17:20 <PinkTomato> hi Monkey_arma :)
17:21 <Lackadaisical> hi to you too BabyBug
17:21 <BabyBug> :)
17:21 <BabyBug> hello
17:25 <Paralyzed> how could i get vectron to work :|
17:25 <Paralyzed> any place that could show me how
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17:41 <Pathetique> Monkey_arma: so when are we starting? :S
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17:45 <PinkTomato> @linkladle
17:45 <teabot> Ladle : http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Ladle/Challenge_Board
17:45 <PinkTomato> Pathetique: 7-30pm
17:46 <Pathetique> erm
17:46 <Pathetique> Please tell me that's GMT
17:46 <PinkTomato> GMT :)
17:47 <akira_arma> so in 3 hours?
17:47 <akira_arma> or 2?
17:47 <akira_arma> lol
17:47 <akira_arma> 3
17:48 <Pathetique> Can you give that to me in 24 hour time?
17:48 <Pathetique> Then I could tell you
17:48 <Pathetique> aktuly
17:48 <Pathetique> that would be 19:30
17:48 <Pathetique> oic
17:48 <Pathetique> not much longer then
17:52 <PinkTomato> akira_arma: you start at 6:45 v CT
17:52 <akira_arma> :o
17:53 <Monkey_arma> Pathetique really read the wiki
17:53 <Pathetique> I did
17:53 <Pathetique> I see now
17:53 <Pathetique> so, do we know what all the match-ups will be?
17:53 <Pathetique> I can create us one of those fancy tournament bracket things
17:53 <Monkey_arma> *read*    *the*   *wiki*
17:54 <Pathetique> ...
17:54 <SageLord> would it be possible to change the US fort to the semi finals for the bottom bracket?
17:54 <akira_arma> I cant read
17:54 <akira_arma> :(
17:54 <Monkey_arma> *READ* *THE* *WIKI*
17:54 <SageLord> instead of Wild West?
17:54 <Pathetique> oic
17:54 <SageLord> wild west has been having some problems lately
17:54 <Monkey_arma> Pathetique : http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Ladle/Challenge_Board
17:54 <SageLord> and i think its best if we avoid it if we can
17:54 <Pathetique> Already at that, Monkey, thanks for the link though.
17:54 <Monkey_arma> good :P
17:55 <akira_arma> wow
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17:56  * Pathetique can be a little slow sometimes.
17:59 <K-Yo> SageLord, I think we can change servers if both teams agree on it
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18:07 <Corn> im definatly against playing ww in semis
18:07 <Corn> server isnt stable at all
18:09 <freako> ok... the lightfoot serve is randomly kicking players....
18:09 <freako> someone knows whats the problem?
18:13 <freako> its a ladle server ffs
18:14 <SageLord> yes, it gives me a message:  "Server has terminated your connection"
18:14 <SageLord> why is it doing this?
18:15 <Pathetique> Because its fuckin luke-jr's server.
18:15 <freako> luke-jr u read this? ^
18:15 <Pathetique> He knows how I feel in general about him.
18:15 <Pathetique> rofl
18:16 <BabyBug> omg, almost the entire uk has been banned from editting wikipedia =(
18:16 <Monkey_arma> BabyBug ?!
18:17 <BabyBug> Monkey_arma, wiki has been added to some child pornography blacklist. So uk ISP's are filtering traffic through a transparent proxy, which means everyone has the same ip
18:17 <BabyBug> one person gets banned for vandalism..everyone gets banned ><
18:17 <Pathetique> That's stupid.
18:18 <Pathetique> What kind of moron at the ISPs came up with that idea?
18:19 <BabyBug> Pathetique, Well one article contains the picture of a nakid, prepubescent child, so they're filtering that article.
18:19 <Pathetique> o.0
18:19 <Concord> link?      jk
18:19 <Pathetique> I was talking about the whole "LOLGUYS LETS FILTER EVERYBODY! SCREW PRIVACY!"
18:19 <Pathetique> thing
18:20 <Pathetique> However
18:20 <Pathetique> if you log in with an account
18:20 <Pathetique> I do believe it lets you edit articles.
18:20 <BabyBug> You can still edit.
18:20 <Monkey_arma> oh nose
18:20 <Pathetique> Because then they can track you down and ban that account.
18:20 <BabyBug> But new registrations from the UK are banned aswell.
18:20 <Pathetique> But IP-based editing is banned.
18:20 <BabyBug> You have to request one from the admins ><
18:20 <Pathetique> an account?
18:20 <BabyBug> ya
18:20 <Pathetique> I thought you could just register. o.0
18:20 <BabyBug> Not if your banned :P
18:21 <Pathetique> Well, seeing as I'm allowed to say this because I am...
18:21 <Pathetique> That's pretty gay.
18:22 <Pathetique> And I don't mean stupid.
18:22 <Pathetique> :\
18:22 <BabyBug> It is the law though.
18:22 <Pathetique> o.O
18:22 <Pathetique> i can has law-related link?
18:22 <Pathetique> oh wait
18:22 <Pathetique> you guys are in uk
18:22 <Pathetique> ACLU can't do shit there.
18:22 <Pathetique> lolol
18:22 <BabyBug> Child Porno, it's against the law, you don't need no link for proof of that
18:22 <BabyBug> lol
18:22 <Pathetique> of course
18:23 <BabyBug> Wikipedia are the gay ones by refusing to remove it
18:23 <BabyBug> on the grounds that "wikipedia does not censor"
18:23 <BabyBug> what a load of crap
18:24 <K-Yo> hmmm
18:24 <K-Yo> who's in noob_saibot's team?
18:24 <Pathetique> UK ISPs are in my opinion just a bunch of fucktards.  Remember when they freaked out because there was a shitload of traffic going to MySpace.com and they thought it was a Denial Of Service attack?
18:25 <PinkTomato> K-Yo: myself
18:26 <K-Yo> PinkTomato, is 23 still playing with u?
18:26 <BabyBug> Pathetique, me too, but regardless, i still think they're doing the right thing here =P
18:26 <K-Yo> @linkladle
18:26 <teabot> Ladle : http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Ladle/Challenge_Board
18:27 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: why is traffic going through a transparent proxy if it's on the blacklist?
18:27 <Pathetique> hmmm
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18:27 <PinkTomato> do you mean it has been put on a list that checks every image, resulting in through a proxy?
18:27 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, The blacklist is nothing to do with ISP's
18:27 <Pathetique> The whole transparent proxy bullshit is ridiculous.
18:28 <K-Yo> <K-Yo> PinkTomato, is 23 still playing with u?
18:28 <BabyBug> "Internet Watch Foundation child-pornography blacklist"
18:28 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: I'm aware of that, it's cleanfeed right?
18:28 <PinkTomato> K-Yo: Sorry, I don't know
18:28 <BabyBug> cleanfeed?
18:28 <PinkTomato> I don't have contact with him
18:28 <K-Yo> PinkTomato, okay
18:28 <Monkey_arma> k-yo he is yes
18:28 <K-Yo> Monkey_arma, noob didn't replied to hoim
18:28 <K-Yo> him*
18:28 <Pathetique> It makes it so that if one person out of the sixty million, seven hundred and seventy six thousand, two hundred and thirty eight people in the UK fucks around on wikipedia, everybody gets banned from editing.
18:28 <PinkTomato> isn't that the name of the protection mechanism?
18:29 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, They already are banned =P
18:29 <BabyBug> You're UK right? Try editing a page anonymously
18:29 <SageLord> can someone please address the kicking problem in luke-jr's US server for the ladle?
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18:30 <BabyBug> "Editing from (your account, IP address, or IP address range) has been disabled by Lucasbfr for the following reason(s)" That's the message i get on wikipedia, but as you can tell my IRC..that's not my IP =D
18:30 <freako> if it keeps like this.....
18:30 <freako> the luke server cant be used
18:30 <Pathetique> The Internet Watch Foundation is the beginning of Big Brother.
18:31 <BabyBug> lol Pathetique It's only a list. It's up to individual companies if they pay any attention to it.
18:31 <freako> luke-jr
18:31 <PinkTomato> BabyBug, works here, but I'm on Uni network
18:31 <BabyBug> ah
18:31 <PinkTomato> Though that dosen't make sense...
18:31 <PinkTomato> usually netwoks like that are semi-protected always
18:32 <BabyBug> Indeed.
18:32 <Pathetique> So your ISP chooses whether or not to filter your stuff, BabyBug?
18:32 <PinkTomato> no the WatchList does
18:32 <BabyBug> Pathetique, yes. But alot of the ISP's in the UK are choosing to filter this wiki page.
18:32 <PinkTomato> oh
18:32 <PinkTomato> :S
18:33 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, The watchlist is just a list, totally independant. It's up to the ISP's if they want to listen to the list or not.
18:33 <PinkTomato> ah right
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18:35 <PinkTomato> it's so stupid, why account the whole domain to be evil when it's only one evil page. If you found many evil pages then block the domain but not just one image for a website as large as wikipedia.
18:35 <Monkey_arma> k-yo their communication is not great
18:36 <Monkey_arma> i doubt he is not in it
18:36 <pavelo> they are blocking just one page, if i understand correctly
18:36 <Pathetique> yes
18:36 <Pathetique> lolhomework time
18:36 <pavelo> but the blocking is done via a proxy... so everyone gets the same IP from wikipedia's perspective
18:37 <pavelo> and then wiki bans that ip from editing
18:37 <PinkTomato> Oh right, now I understand :).
18:37 <BabyBug> Much like everyone from your uni has the same IP...Except this is ony a much much larger scale =P
18:37 <BabyBug> on*
18:38 <pavelo> actually, everyone from my uni has a different ip :P
18:38 <freako> luke-jr
18:38 <BabyBug> eh? So every single person in your uni has there own internet connection?
18:38 <mkzelda__> mine did too
18:38 <Pathetique> luke-jr
18:38 <Pathetique> let us spam his name
18:38 <Pathetique> until he wakes up
18:38 <BabyBug> how the frick does that work
18:38 <mkzelda__> ridiculous ip block
18:38 <pavelo> but i must say i don't like this filtering thingy.... if it's illegal then sue the guys that made the album... but don't filter all traffick
18:39 <K-Yo> Monkey_arma, okay, he's kinda worried but he'll be there on time ;)
18:39 <Monkey_arma> saibot is here now
18:39 <pavelo> BabyBug: we get a nice public ip... don't know how they managed to do that, but it's nice
18:39 <Monkey_arma> im asking him
18:39 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: Yes I do believe my Uni has too many IP addresses than it needs :P
18:40 <PinkTomato> I have a hunch mine is just my own
18:40 -!- hoop [n=john@ip-200-178.sn2.eutelia.it] has joined #armagetron
18:40 <PinkTomato> but it's still firewalled
18:40 <PinkTomato> so there's no point to it
18:40 <Pathetique> what server are you in Monkey?
18:41 <hoop> helo
18:41 <freako> luke-jr
18:41 <freako> hi hoop :)
18:41 <Pathetique> pavelo: your university probably just has a computer acting as an internet gateway that isn't filtered or whatever like others.
18:41 <PinkTomato> hi hoop :D
18:41 <pavelo> yep, they just block our smtp traffic, due to spam et  al.
18:42 <pavelo> hi hoop
18:42 <PinkTomato> what if you want to send an email?
18:42 -!- _TaZ_ [i=981e3889@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b56475fc1a129899] has joined #armagetron
18:42 <_TaZ_> Hey
18:42 <Pathetique> use a web interface email like gmail
18:42 <PinkTomato> thats a workaround though
18:42 <pavelo> they have their own smtp server, which works most of the time
18:43 <PinkTomato> Hi _TaZ_ :)
18:43 <_TaZ_> Hey PinkTomato ;)
18:43 <PinkTomato> most of the time ... :)
18:43 <_TaZ_> Ready for the ladle?
18:43 <PinkTomato> um... no
18:43 <_TaZ_> lolol
18:44 <Monkey_arma> K-Yo blackhat is in team yes
18:44 <K-Yo> cool
18:44 <K-Yo> :)
18:44 <Monkey_arma> Pathetique the one with 50 other players in
18:44 <hoop> pavelo freako :) are we gonna talk somewhere before the match?
18:44 <_TaZ_> Monkey_arma are you stressed?
18:44 <Monkey_arma> no
18:45 <_TaZ_> You liked yelled at light haha
18:45 <Monkey_arma> no i didnt
18:45 <freako> server crashed?
18:45 <Monkey_arma> i just gave him a much needed kick up arse
18:45 <_TaZ_> Are you going to show up PinkTomato?
18:45 <_TaZ_> haha Monkey
18:45 <pavelo> do we need to talk?
18:45 <freako> monkey the luke-jr server crashed?
18:45 <hoop> dunno, just asking ;P
18:45 <pavelo> make a channel if you think it's necessary
18:45 <Monkey_arma> heh probably
18:46 <Pathetique> seems like it freako
18:46 <Pathetique> I can't ping it.
18:46 <freako> damned
18:46 <Pathetique> yep
18:46 <Pathetique> unreachable.
18:46 <PinkTomato> _TaZ_:  hope so
18:46 <Monkey_arma> no im on it now
18:46 <Pathetique> luke-jr
18:46 <freako> hopefully a reset though
18:46 <Pathetique> luke-jr
18:46 <freako> luke-jr
18:46 <freako> hehe
18:46 <Pathetique> keep doing it
18:46 <Pathetique> luke-jr
18:46 <Pathetique> FFS WAKE UP
18:46 <Pathetique> Nope, not a reset.
18:46 <freako> backup plan= pinktomatoes servers?
18:47 <hoop> lol can't you wait 10 seconds?
18:47 <Pathetique> Unless it just renewed its IP address, and the master servers haven't caught up yet, it seems to be down.
18:47 <Pathetique> No/Negative/0
18:47 <K-Yo> in case, I can still change café into a ladle server
18:47 <K-Yo> but it won't be american
18:47 <freako> k-yo did u upgrade CT1 ?
18:48 <Corn> #echo luke-jr your server crashed if you didnt realize it, just tell you
18:48 <Pathetique> yep, its down.
18:48 <armabot> luke-jr your server crashed if you didnt realize it, just tell you
18:48 <_TaZ_> PinkTomato: It's at 2:30 eastern time
18:48 <K-Yo> freako, freako, upgrade to what?
18:48 <freako> have u upgraded CT ladle 1 lately?
18:48 <K-Yo> hmmm
18:48 <hoop> hey PinkTomato have u checked last 2 maps in raceII ?
18:48 <PinkTomato> PinkTomato: I live in the UK :) 7-30 for me. My server is in the US though, just to confuse things :P
18:48 <Pathetique> #echo luke-jr
18:48 <mkzelda__> i can set up a server on gbit in D.C. if needed
18:48 <K-Yo> let me check what version we're uding
18:48 <armabot> luke-jr
18:48 <Pathetique> lololololol
18:48 <freako> its giving me some nice fps drops... and it only happens on CT1
18:48 <Pathetique> ooo
18:48 <PinkTomato> hoop: I should check that server soon, not been there in ages :)
18:49 -!- CraYSuPeRcOm [n=icechat5@adsl-75-62-73-41.dsl.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net] has joined #armagetron
18:49 <K-Yo> freako, using the 912 rev
18:49 -!- Concord [n=Concord@pool-72-93-80-204.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit []
18:49 <hoop> PinkTomato: yea, i've a lot of new races last month
18:49 <hoop> +made
18:49 <K-Yo> we upgraded on eps's advices
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18:49 <PinkTomato> hoop: I'll have a look when I get a chance :)
18:49 <Pathetique> Well...
18:50 <freako> k-yo was it about  1 week ago? 6/7 days?
18:50 <freako> or right after the tst?
18:50 <K-Yo> yeah
18:50 <K-Yo> argh
18:50 <K-Yo> let me check logs
18:50 <Pathetique> I suppose I could host a server, but its only on a DSL modem.
18:50 -!- sinewav [n=sinewav@adsl-76-197-248-175.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #armagetron
18:51 <_TaZ_> eww
18:51 <PinkTomato> that won't hold 20 people at 8kbits each
18:51 <Pathetique> aktuly
18:51 <K-Yo> freako, 3-4 days
18:51 <_TaZ_> I can host a server..on my dial-up
18:51 <freako> I have,, a 100mbit vps free
18:51 <freako> but not sure if i can set it up so fast
18:52 <Pathetique> I have around 646 kilobits of upload, PinkTomato
18:52 <Pathetique> lol
18:52 <Pathetique> I almost typed PunkTomato
18:52 <pavelo> hoop: K-Yo wonders when will vectron be able to do something useful
18:52 <pavelo> :P
18:52 <K-Yo> :P
18:52 <hoop> hehe I do to :(
18:52 <K-Yo> that's not how I said it!
18:52 <freako> and k-yo :/
18:52 <PinkTomato> xD. Well my VPS is up and set up already :).  Pathetique: nice :)
18:52 <freako> did the upgrade fuck my gameplat :)
18:52 <freako> gameplay*
18:52 <Pathetique> VPS?
18:53 <Pathetique> Virtual PRivate Server?
18:53 <K-Yo> freako, it's not supposed to
18:53 <hoop> I'm still desperately searching for my lost inspiration
18:53 <PinkTomato> yeap
18:53 <Pathetique> ah
18:53 <K-Yo> I dunno what was commited since
18:53 <freako> it did though k-yo :(
18:53 <Pathetique> so it isn't the only one on the machine
18:53 <K-Yo> damn
18:53 <K-Yo> freako, u play there?
18:53 <PinkTomato> well, the machine is pretty empty
18:53 <PinkTomato> I think
18:53 <PinkTomato> works well enough for me :)
18:53 <freako> no,
18:53 <freako> but was just talking about the update being sux :p
18:53 <PinkTomato> luke-jr machine is obvousily much better
18:53 <K-Yo> haha
18:54 <pavelo> (if it works)
18:54 <K-Yo> freako, I don't commit anything, tell devs :P
18:54 <PinkTomato> lol that's true :)
18:54 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, do you only use the VPS for tron?
18:54 <PinkTomato> yeap
18:54 <freako> vps= nice for tron
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18:55 <freako> it uses almost no load
18:55 <freako> cpu*
18:55 <Pathetique> wa wa we wa
18:55 <freako> epsy u here?
18:56 <freako> epsy: why did u advice CT to upgrade there ladle servers ( I find the update rather unstable and its causing me to lose fps+more lag)
18:57 <pavelo> cause he wants them to lose ?
18:57 <hoop> lòl
18:57 <pavelo> (notice that X doesn't play on CT servers)
18:58 <hoop> there's a timebomb in last epsy's commit
18:58 <freako> and they told luke-jr to make a server
18:58 <Monkey_arma> hi speed
18:58 <freako> that kicks only tr- members...
18:58 <Pathetique> lol
18:58 <BabyBug> lol freako
18:58 <hoop> luke's is better than WW for anyone
18:59 <freako> hoop it kicks people on random
18:59 <Pathetique> LOL
18:59 <pavelo> it hasn't kicked me
18:59 <hoop> oh, k I was talkin bout the pings
18:59 <Pathetique> I think compguygene
18:59 <freako> not totally random though,,, certain people get kicked
18:59 <Pathetique> took control of it
18:59 <Pathetique> and changed the server
18:59 <freako> only those got kicked in random order
19:00 <speed> hi
19:00 <hoop> PinkTomato: your fort server is in the same DD machine?
19:00 <hoop> hi speed
19:00 <PinkTomato> hoop: Correct :)
19:00 <speed> i don`t even know my mates
19:00 <speed> where they at ....
19:01 <hoop> PinkTomato: we should shut down race if we'll use it for the ladle
19:01 <PinkTomato> I wonderif luke-jr made an effort to make a server that kicks people at random?
19:01 <Pathetique> It would be just like him.
19:01 <Pathetique> LOL
19:01 <freako> yup :P
19:02 <PinkTomato> hoop: Good idea if it comes to it :)
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19:03 <_TaZ_> You are right pinktomato
19:03 <PinkTomato> _TaZ_: ?
19:03 <hoop> XD I've been away for a bit, has ivantis stopped spamming?
19:03 <_TaZ_> luke-jr is an evil person
19:03 <_TaZ_> hoop: yes
19:04 <PinkTomato> well, he still hasen't decided which ivantis he is
19:04 <hoop> hehe
19:04 <freako> P4 u here?
19:04 <P4> ye
19:04 <_TaZ_> ivantis3
19:04 <pavelo> what about the bot thingy?
19:04 <_TaZ_> &California Corn
19:04 <freako> p4 is it possible that the new CT ladle 1 update made it unstable?
19:05 <_TaZ_> .California Corn
19:05 <P4> what update? :þ ask kyo or kyle, io don't maintain that sever
19:05 <freako> oh ok
19:05 <freako> ill ask kyle then :p
19:05 <hoop> freako, just ur isp guy's stoned
19:06 <freako> im dutch... were all stoned >.<
19:06 <_TaZ_> lolz
19:06 <hoop> in fact! ;P
19:06 <freako> cheap good weed hehe
19:07 -!- Ratchet-- [n=Joshua@99-195-9-134.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #armagetron
19:07 <Ratchet--> luke-jr:
19:07 <_TaZ_> Hey ratchet
19:07 <Ratchet--> hey taz
19:07 <PinkTomato> we are aware of the luke-jr no here ness and the lack of a fort server
19:07 <PinkTomato> :)
19:07 <_TaZ_> Do you guys have an altern yet?
19:07 <Ratchet--> i need assistance, forgot resource pw
19:07 <Ratchet--> :s
19:08 <freako> pinktomato. if we cant get luke-jr in time
19:08 <PinkTomato> freako: It's all OK :D
19:08 <K-Yo> freako, kyle is the one who does the updates
19:08 <freako> ok, but get a back up admin :P that knows all the commands :/
19:08 <K-Yo> ^^
19:09 <K-Yo> I am here
19:09 <freako> k-yo yeah p4 told me :p
19:09 <K-Yo> ah, was not for me :P
19:09 <PinkTomato> hehe :). well I think TST staff have admin access to it
19:09 <freako> tst=playing the ladle :p
19:10 <K-Yo> PinkTomato, argh, I don't remember my TST login :P
19:10 <K-Yo> anyway, I don't play there
19:11 <PinkTomato> hehe :D
19:11 <PinkTomato> oh wait. is there any setting changes from ladle 16 to ladle 17?
19:12 <K-Yo> just include the new file, to be sure ;)
19:12 <PinkTomato> OK do :)
19:13 -!- Paralyzed [n=Paralyze@] has joined #armagetron
19:13 <K-Yo> wb Paralyzed
19:13 <Paralyzed> :|
19:13 <Paralyzed> i hate maps
19:13 <Paralyzed> !
19:14 <Paralyzed> DIE DIE DIE
19:14 <PinkTomato> What problem is it?
19:14 <Paralyzed> PINK
19:14 <Paralyzed> you didnt se emy map yet
19:14 <_TaZ_> Monkey_arma: I read your post on ID...you are soo mean haha
19:14 <Paralyzed> its the preview problem
19:14 <Monkey_arma> i just told it how it is..if they cant tell the right time
19:16 <_TaZ_> lol
19:16 <Corn> #google time converter
19:16 <Corn> ffs
19:16 <armabot> Corn: Search took 0.20 seconds: Time Zone Converter - The Time Zone - What time is it in ___?: <http://www.timezoneconverter.com/>; Time Zone Converter: <http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc>; The World Clock – Time Zone Converter: <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html>; The World Clock - Time Zones: <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/>; The World Time (2 more messages)
19:16 <freako> use greenwichmeantime
19:16 <freako> .com
19:17 <freako> corn ur match is in 1 hour and 13 minutes
19:17 <Corn> :)
19:17 <freako> ;)
19:17 <Corn> lmfao while i did the smiley hoop killed me damn chatbot
19:18 <hoop> hehe :P
19:20 <Paralyzed> .ls ~'Ns.Paralyzed
19:20 <tronner> Paralyzed: ~'Ns.Paralyzed has last been seen on ~'Never Surrender. ~CTF Shooting~ 17 hours 35 minutes ago.
19:20 <freako> .ls freako
19:20 <_TaZ_> .ls TaZ
19:20 <tronner> freako: freako has last been seen on  Wild West  =Fortress= 19 hours 48 minutes ago.
19:20 <Paralyzed> .ls Breast
19:20 <freako> hehe
19:20 <freako> lol
19:20 <tronner> _TaZ_: Yung[TAZ] has last been seen on  Wild West  =Capture The Flag= 1 day 0 hours 34 minutes ago.
19:21 <freako> i have played 2 hours ago....
19:21 <_TaZ_> .ls _TaZ_
19:21 <tronner> Paralyzed: timed out
19:21 <Paralyzed> .ls breast
19:21 <tronner> _TaZ_: Yung[TAZ] has last been seen on  Wild West  =Capture The Flag= 1 day 0 hours 34 minutes ago.
19:21 <tronner> Paralyzed: timed out
19:21 <freako> .ls z-man
19:21 <_TaZ_> .ls wrtlprnft
19:21 <tronner> freako: timed out
19:21 <Paralyzed> .ls B0ob$
19:21 <tronner> _TaZ_: timed out
19:21 <_TaZ_> .ls wrtlprnft_
19:21 <Monkey_arma> i just got kicked from Wild West by ther server
19:21 <tronner> Paralyzed: timed out
19:22 <_TaZ_> Why monkey_arma?
19:22 <tronner> _TaZ_: timed out
19:22 <_TaZ_> .ls sinewav
19:22 <freako> same prob as WW? :p
19:22 <tronner> _TaZ_: timed out
19:23 <Monkey_arma> timed out or w/e
19:23 <_TaZ_> ah
19:23 <_TaZ_> How do you think this ladle will turn out?
19:23 <sinewav> wha?
19:23 <PinkTomato> is there network problems somewhere in the US :S?
19:24 <sinewav> great
19:24 <sinewav> `for all!
19:24 <SageLord> uh oh
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19:25 <Ratchet--> .ls ~'Ns.Ratchet
19:25 <Ratchet--> .esen
19:25 <Ratchet--> .seen Ratchet
19:25 <tronner> Ratchet--: Ratchet was last seen in #armagetron 11 weeks, 6 days, 19 hours, 32 minutes, and 58 seconds ago: <Ratchet> thar =-o
19:25 <tronner> Ratchet--: timed out
19:25 <Ratchet--> lol
19:25 <Ratchet--> .seen ~'Ns.Ratchet
19:25 <tronner> Ratchet--: I have not seen ~'Ns.Ratchet.
19:25 <Ratchet--> .
19:25 <Ratchet--> LIEs
19:25 <Ratchet--> i will kick your ass little bot
19:26 <Ratchet--> .ls Ratchet
19:26 <Ratchet--> .
19:26 <Corn> im able to play fine, but im play on ct fort
19:26 <tronner> Ratchet--: -Ratchet- has last been seen on ~'Never Surrender. ~CTF Shooting~ 17 hours 32 minutes ago.
19:26 <Corn> playing*
19:26 <Ratchet--> .ls ~'Ns.Ratchet
19:26 -!- Stewah [n=AngryOve@cpe-76-88-118-97.san.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving..."]
19:26 <tronner> Ratchet--: timed out
19:26 <Ratchet--> Does anyone here have access to the resource browser?
19:26 <Ratchet--> I forgot my pw >.<
19:27 -!- AshitakA [n=AshitakA@pD9E02277.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron
19:27 <freako> nope.. forgot to get an accoutn  there :p
19:28 <SageLord> so, i think i missed a lot, if luke-jr's server is unable to run correctly, we are using pinktomatoes?
19:28 <SageLord> is that a good summary?
19:28 <SageLord> of the situation?
19:28 <Corn> i think so
19:28 <SageLord> or did i misunderstand something
19:28  * SageLord tries to think of someway to sabotage luke-jr's server more so we play on pink tomato's server...
19:28 -!- PhysiX [n=x-javach@p57A995E0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron
19:28 <PhysiX> hay all
19:28 <Corn> i think zmans should be used for the semis rather then ww because ww is having the same problems
19:29 <SageLord> 25-30 ping ftw :)
19:29 <PinkTomato> lol SageLord :).
19:29 <SageLord> ;P
19:29 <freako> use pink then....
19:29 <freako> USA servers should be exchanged with US servers..
19:29 <PinkTomato> Corn: Um.. I have a worry that if Ww and Luke-JR have same problem, mine might have too.
19:29 <SageLord> ww has been having the same problems for a while
19:29 <SageLord> when we switch from ww to your server, everything is fine
19:30 <Corn> ww had these problems last ladle and hasnt got any better
19:30 <SageLord> we've been playing on your server off and on the past few days
19:30 <SageLord> and your server seems fine
19:30 -!- K-Yo is now known as i
19:30 <SageLord> shall we go test it to be sure?
19:30 <PinkTomato> Ah, well I think it has never had more than 8 people on it at any one time though :)
19:30 -!- i is now known as i_am_not_a_spy
19:30 <SageLord> yea that is true
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19:31 <freako> durka
19:31 <Corn> hey durk
19:31 <freako> hi!
19:31 <freako> bitch!
19:31 <Durka_> o_O
19:31 <Paralyzed> OH NO WORSHIPPING FANS
19:31 <Paralyzed> RUN FOR YOUR LIVES
19:31 <Corn> are you going to be playing
19:32 <Durka_> for the first round, yes
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19:32 -!- i_am_not_a_spy is now known as K-Yo
19:32 <Corn> only a round? O.o or a match
19:32 -!- Lacrymosa [n=Lacrymos@p5484DFAC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #armagetron
19:32 <Corn> or do you mean against DS only
19:32 <Durka_> the quarter finals
19:33 <Corn> mmmhmm
19:33 <Durka_> Lacrymosa: \o
19:33 -!- Stewah [n=AngryOve@cpe-76-88-118-97.san.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
19:33 <Ratchet--> sam
19:33 <MrBougo> maybe one of you guys knows what's wrong there: http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/1/9/1688757/pi_eq_0.png
19:33 <MrBougo> ?
19:33 <Ratchet--> lord para broke the server
19:33 <Ratchet--> PinkTomato:
19:34 <Paralyzed> LOL
19:34 <Paralyzed> i did not
19:34 <Paralyzed> xDD
19:34 <Paralyzed> i just..
19:34 <Paralyzed> made it stop working
19:34 <Ratchet--> and then broke it
19:34 <Paralyzed> LOL
19:34 <Paralyzed> now you want to make a race map
19:34 <Paralyzed> i thought you hate it
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19:36 <PinkTomato> Login and type /admin quit
19:36 <K-Yo> madmax, can u come to ladle, so Iop you?
19:36 <madmax> hum, that should be luzi
19:36 <madmax> wait a sec
19:36 -!- Stewah [n=AngryOve@cpe-76-88-118-97.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit]
19:37 <MaZuffeR> MrBougo, the third expression on the second line looks wrong to me, don't got time to think about it right now though, ladle starting soon
19:38 <MrBougo> hehe
19:38 -!- ivantis2 [n=shadowir@63-245-159-78.kitusa.com] has joined #armagetron
19:38 <MrBougo> well, someone just told me (e^a)^b = e^ab only with real numbers a and b
19:39 <MaZuffeR> hmm, ok
19:39 <MaZuffeR> i'm not a big fan of math :)
19:40 <epsy> [18:56] <freako>: epsy: why did u advice CT to upgrade there ladle servers ( I find the update rather unstable and its causing me to lose fps+more lag)
19:40 -!- emmy_arma [n=peiaeman@pc232133.static.is.airbites.ro] has joined #armagetron
19:40 <epsy> did they upgrade your client?
19:40 <SageLord> uh oh a math problem?
19:40 <Corn> MrBougo: that equation is incorrect i believe..
19:40 <pavelo> it is
19:40 <SageLord> yea it's wrong
19:40 <Corn> the first one is bigger
19:40 <epsy> pavelo: where do we play then?
19:40 <pavelo> epsy: huh ?
19:40 <epsy> pavelo, what happens?
19:40 <MrBougo> it's obviously wrong, Corn :p
19:41 <pavelo> *it is (correct)
19:41 -!- Durka_ is now known as Durka
19:41 <epsy> [18:57] <pavelo>: (notice that X doesn't play on CT servers)
19:41 <SageLord> oh wait
19:41 <SageLord> i got it backwards
19:41 <SageLord> yea it is correct
19:41 <ivantis2> C^2=A^2+B^2-((90-D)/(D/(A^2+B^2)))
19:41 <SageLord> i should know this stuff lol
19:41 <ivantis2> that is some hard math
19:41 <SageLord> lol matrices?
19:41 <ivantis2> Durka is here?
19:41 <pavelo> epsy: well you play quarter and semi finals on WW/zman if i read the wiki correctly
19:41 <ivantis2> WAW
19:42 <Ratchet--> hey ivan :)
19:42 <epsy> aaah
19:42 <epsy> the fucking laaadle
19:42 <ivantis2> hey rathcet
19:42 <Ratchet--> hi epsy :P
19:42 <epsy> hi
19:42 <ivantis2> BLAAH
19:42 <Ratchet--> i like your teleport hack, ivantis
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19:43 <epsy> nice
19:43 <Paralyzed> ivaaannnsttaaa
19:44 <Corn> wheres z-man's server
19:44 <epsy> germany
19:44 <Corn> no i mean it isnt on the master list
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19:45 <freako> its down again?
19:45 <Corn> was it even up
19:45 <Corn> ?
19:45 <freako> zmanuel
19:45 <freako> zmanuel
19:45 <freako> zmanuel
19:45 <freako> is ur server down again?
19:46 <Paralyzed> Ivantis:
19:46 <Paralyzed> !
19:46 <epsy> seems it's not up
19:46 <Pathetique> Monkey
19:46 <freako> shit
19:46 <epsy> z-man-work, zmanuel: seems your servers down, and, uhm, ladle is in 45 minutes
19:46 <Pathetique> Monkey_arma: where are we supposed to play now that douche-jr's server is down?
19:47 <epsy> luke-jr: ping
19:47 <Flex> Monkey_arma
19:47 <Pathetique> #echo luke-jr luke-jr luke-jr luke-jr luke-jr luke-jr luke-jr luke-jr luke-jr luke-jr luke-jr luke-jr
19:47 <epsy> also, monkey has nothing to do with ladle
19:47 <armabot> luke-jr luke-jr luke-jr luke-jr luke-jr luke-jr luke-jr luke-jr luke-jr luke-jr luke-jr luke-jr
19:47 <Ratchet--> rofl
19:47 <Flex> someone from your team is looking for you
19:48 <Durka> dont ping luke-jr
19:48 <Durka> we're already borrowing a server from him
19:48 <Pathetique> ITS DOWN
19:48 <SageLord> durka do you know whats going on with the servers
19:48 <Pathetique> rofl
19:48 <Pathetique> it is dead, Durka.
19:48 <SageLord> people were getting kicked randomly
19:48 <Pathetique> It started kicking people earlier
19:48 <SageLord> it was awful
19:48 <Pathetique> and then it died
19:49 <SageLord> i would be in the middle of my defense... and boom i would be kicked
19:49 <Pathetique> so
19:49 <Pathetique> pinging luke-jr would be a good diea.
19:49 <epsy> SageLord, kicking?
19:49 <SageLord> or finding an alternative
19:49 <Durka> ill restart the server one sec
19:49 <Pathetique> mhm
19:49 <epsy> SageLord, kicking?
19:49 <Corn> epsy: and punching
19:49 <SageLord> it would say:  The server has terminated your connection.
19:49 <epsy> Corn: stfuplz
19:49 <SageLord> it didn't happen just to me
19:49 <SageLord> it happened to a lot of people
19:50 <epsy> and what does others see?
19:50 <SageLord> i have no idea, it happened to corn too
19:50 <SageLord> corn: what did it say for you?
19:50 <Pathetique> It happened to freako, as well, I thought.
19:50 <Corn> yeah it basically just lagged out
19:50 <epsy> at the same time?
19:50 <Corn> exactly what sage said
19:50 <SageLord> yea it would kick somewhere between 3-5 players
19:50 <SageLord> at once
19:50 <epsy> like, it showed you both leaving at the same moment?
19:50 <Corn> The server has terminated your connection
19:50 <SageLord> but it was like it picked the players at random
19:50 <Corn> im not sure but it looked like you would just leave the server
19:50 <SageLord> cause it didn't always kick me
19:51 <SageLord> there were several instances where 4 people would all 'leave'
19:51 <SageLord> and then come back a few seconds later and complain from being kicked
19:51 <Corn> also one of the times i got kicked my client closed, other times it just went to the menu
19:51 <epsy> where can I see that?
19:51 <Durka> its giving me an error
19:51 <epsy> ...
19:51 <Durka> when i try and restart lukes server
19:51 <freako> get it fucking fixed!
19:51 <Pathetique> mhm
19:51 <Pathetique> ITS FUCKED.
19:51 -!- Goodygumdrops [n=Goodygum@h124.144.88.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has joined #armagetron
19:51 <Pathetique> Time to find another one.
19:52 <SageLord> it is unacceptable
19:52 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Paralyzed/race/PentaRace-beta.aamap.xml: Resource by Paralyzed
19:52 <SageLord> i'm pretty sure the server is down
19:52 <Pathetique> It died, epsy.
19:52 <SageLord> idk how you can see it happening epsy
19:52 <Paralyzed> what the hell
19:52 <Goodygumdrops> is z-man here?
19:52 <Corn> Goodygundrops: he isnt responding
19:52 <Pathetique> nope
19:52 <Goodygumdrops> perfect
19:52 <epsy> SageLord, like, in a server?
19:52 <SageLord> what?
19:53 <SageLord> i'm confused as to what you're asking
19:53 <Goodygumdrops> where is tr v ds being played?
19:53 <PinkTomato> @linkladle
19:53 <teabot> Ladle : http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Ladle/Challenge_Board
19:53 <epsy> where can I reproduce the "bug"
19:53 <Pathetique> Well
19:53 <Corn> suppose to be zmans but if thats not up i think ww
19:53 <SageLord> i have no idea...  it happened in luke-jr's server
19:53 <SageLord> and his server isn't up anymore
19:53 <Pathetique> Without luke-jr's server being up
19:53 <Pathetique> it is impossible.
19:53 <epsy> ah, so why are people bothering me about CT's servers
19:53 <Corn> i have no idea
19:53 <Goodygumdrops> epsy: it might not be a software issue
19:53 <Pathetique> So your usual debugging methods won't work.
19:53 <Paralyzed> ask potatos :D
19:53 <Corn> @linkladle
19:53 <teabot> Ladle : http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Ladle/Challenge_Board
19:54 <freako> p4 is builkding cafe in an ladle server
19:54 <PinkTomato> tomatoes...
19:54 <PinkTomato> xD
19:54 <Paralyzed> i know pink
19:54 <Paralyzed> im kidding
19:54 <Paralyzed> DUH
19:54 <Paralyzed> LOL@FAIL.COM
19:54 <epsy> builkding?
19:54 <Paralyzed> potatos
19:54 <SageLord> if luke-jr doesn't respond, we need to find an alternative server
19:54 <Paralyzed> have you yet to see my map
19:54 <Goodygumdrops> man, good call on not seeding, btw
19:55 <Paralyzed> SageLord: ask potatos :D
19:55 <Goodygumdrops> we have last ladle's winners against a team of all-stars
19:55 <SageLord> pinktomato, can we use your server?
19:55 <Ratchet--> 8-)
19:55 <Goodygumdrops> playing to see if they are allowed to get into the 8 team round
19:55 <SageLord> lol goody
19:55 <PinkTomato> I said It's OK :), monkey has admin i think.
19:55 <PinkTomato> SP clan aren't happy mind you :/
19:56 <SageLord> about what?
19:56 <Paralyzed> PINK
19:56 <Goodygumdrops> also, i can't find z-man's server in my server browser
19:56 <Paralyzed> ='(
19:56 <freako> ask p4 he can make a stable ladle server
19:56 <Corn> no one is happy :/
19:56 <Paralyzed> i want u to see my map to put on dd racing
19:56 <Pathetique> #sd USA
19:56 <PinkTomato> thats true corn :)
19:56 <armabot> Pathetique: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “usa” at the moment, sorry.
19:56 <Paralyzed> .ls Ratchet
19:56 <tronner> Paralyzed: -Ratchet- has last been seen on ~'Never Surrender. ~CTF Shooting~ 18 hours 3 minutes ago.
19:56 <Paralyzed> 18 hours ago
19:56 <Pathetique>  the ls database is broke
19:56 <Paralyzed> i know
19:56 <Paralyzed> :)
19:56 <Pathetique> .ls pathetique
19:56 <Pathetique> I think
19:56 <Paralyzed> .ls Ravirn
19:56 <Ratchet--> .seen Pathetique
19:56 <tronner> Ratchet--: Pathetique was last seen in #armagetron 6 seconds ago: <Pathetique> I think
19:56 <tronner> Pathetique: timed out
19:56 <Pathetique> rofl
19:56 <SageLord> so i don't really know about this whole building a server for a ladle process
19:57 <tronner> Paralyzed: timed out
19:57 <Paralyzed> .ls Ravirn
19:57 <SageLord> do we need to find monkey now and get it underway?
19:57 <Ratchet--> .seen Ratchet--
19:57 <tronner> Ratchet--: Ratchet-- was last seen in #armagetron 16 seconds ago: <Ratchet--> .seen Pathetique
19:57 <tronner> Paralyzed: timed out
19:57 <Pathetique>  seen is different
19:57 <Ratchet--> i see
19:57 <Paralyzed> .seen myselfnaked
19:57 <Durka> SageLord:
19:57 <tronner> Paralyzed: I have not seen myselfnaked.
19:57 <Ratchet--> pathy why no on aim evar
19:57 <Ratchet--> =p
19:57 <Paralyzed> LOL!
19:57 <Durka> all i see is
19:57 <Durka> [2] received logout from 2.
19:57 <Durka> [2] SageLord left Team gold.
19:57 <Pathetique> I'm on it right now.
19:57 <Durka> then u complained u got kicked
19:57 <Paralyzed>  Paralyzed: I have not seen myselfnaked.
19:57 <Durka> so idk
19:57 <Paralyzed> LOL
19:57 <Corn> durka does it say the same about me
19:57 <SageLord> well it didn't JUST happen to me
19:57 <Corn> i got kicked too
19:58 <Goodygumdrops> yeah, my connection got dropped on the server
19:58 <Paralyzed> .seen ratchet own anyone.
19:58 <tronner> Paralyzed: (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself.
19:58 <SageLord> it happened to other people too
19:58 <Paralyzed> .seen ratchetown
19:58 <Goodygumdrops> and i got two separate d/c messages
19:58 <tronner> Paralyzed: I have not seen ratchetown.
19:58 <freako> i got kicked 2
19:58 <Paralyzed> LOL
19:58 <Goodygumdrops> i can't remember what they were
19:58 <Goodygumdrops> didn't make any sense
19:58 <freako> it needs to be fixed
19:58 <Durka> PinkTomato: are we going to just use ur server instead>
19:58 <epsy> Paralyzed, can you play somewhere else?
19:58 <SageLord> i think thats a better idea
19:58 <freako> I refuse to play there if we get kicked
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19:58 <Paralyzed> ok i r sorry
19:58 <epsy> freako, the server will anyway
19:58 <Goodygumdrops> i wanna know where tr v ds will be playing
19:58 <PinkTomato> Durka: I think so, :S
19:58 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Paralyzed/race/PentaRace-beta-1.aamap.xml: Resource by Paralyzed
19:59 <PinkTomato> @linkladle < Goodygumdrops
19:59 <teabot> Ladle : http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Ladle/Challenge_Board
19:59 <Monkey_arma> so are we using tomatoes server now >????????
19:59 <SageLord> yes
19:59 <epsy> I guess you should
19:59 <Monkey_arma> k
19:59 <PinkTomato> Only if you think it can handle it :)
19:59 <SageLord> lol, uh oh
19:59 <epsy> it handled TST pretty well
19:59 <Pathetique> Finally monkey
19:59 <Goodygumdrops> sounds like this will be a blast
19:59 <epsy> didn't it?
19:59 <SageLord> lol goody
19:59 <Pathetique> All they gotta do is turn off the other servers on the machine
19:59 <Monkey_arma> PinkTomato change server name
19:59 <Pathetique> and we'll be set.
20:00 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Paralyzed/race/PentaRace-beta-2.aamap.xml: Resource by Paralyzed
20:00 <PinkTomato> Ok Pathetique, closing all servers other. Monkey_arma to what name?
20:00 <freako> and the TR vs DS will be played at?
20:00 <freako> is z-mans onlline?
20:00 <SageLord> do you guys always have a party like this before ladle?  this is fun
20:00 <Goodygumdrops> i can't see it
20:00 <Goodygumdrops> freako
20:00 <freako> ill look
20:00 <Pathetique> lol this is intense
20:00 <Monkey_arma> omg psykoi turned up
20:00 <SageLord> yea i saw him earlier
20:00 <Monkey_arma> pink use common sense i giuess
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20:01 <PinkTomato> PinkTomato US Fortress Ladle
20:01 <freako> cant see z-mans also
20:01 <freako> its just down
20:01 <epsy> I can see it as unreachable
20:01 <epsy> and yes it is down, as said 100 times already
20:01 <Paralyzed> Pink's Ladle Competetion Server
20:01 <freako> damned z-man >.<
20:02 <freako> admining a server,, and doing irc sucks....
20:02 <freako> + the non server stress.. >.<Q!
20:03 <Goodygumdrops> so if it's been said zman's is down 100 times, has it also been said 100 times what server is being used instead?
20:04 <epsy> nope
20:04 <SageLord> well since we play there on 25 minutes, we figure this out
20:04 <freako> ask p4
20:05 <freako> epsy can arrange something with p4
20:05 <freako> i dont have time for that :/
20:05 <P4> hum?
20:05 <Durka> ok
20:05 <Durka> i think i know
20:05 <Durka> CT has 2 ladle servers
20:05 <P4> what do you mean by unstable server?
20:05 <P4> lag jumps?
20:05 <Durka> but they're on different hosts
20:05 <epsy> I think I'm not the right person to ask a CTer admin..
20:06 <Goodygumdrops> ct is in the middle of a match
20:06 <Durka> ok i found it
20:06 <epsy> wether they are in the middle of a match or not
20:06 <Durka> Fortress Cafe - CT Clone
20:06 <Durka> its on a different host than CT Ladle Fort 1
20:06 <Durka> so it wont be affected by it
20:06 <freako> epsy... im admining CT
20:07 <P4> Durka: cafe migh be affected too
20:07 <freako> so i dont have time to arrange things
20:07 <P4> kyle might updated all servers, i don't know
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20:07 <sagelord2> hmm
20:07 <Goodygumdrops> great
20:07 <Goodygumdrops> maybe your internet is sux
20:07 <sagelord2> what happened?
20:07 <Goodygumdrops> nothing
20:07 <sagelord2> no i disconnected from wireless so i could get on ethernet
20:07 <Goodygumdrops> you're in here twice
20:07 <sagelord2> and i didn't disconnect from irc
20:08 <Goodygumdrops> solid
20:08 <epsy> is there a server I can test your bug at?
20:08 <Goodygumdrops> now we have sagelord and ghost sagelord
20:08 <Corn> brb
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20:08 <Durka> lets use Fort Cafe clone...
20:08 <Goodygumdrops> so ct's cafe clone?
20:08 <Goodygumdrops> okay
20:09 <sagelord2> i have no idea epsy
20:09 <Goodygumdrops> who has admin there?
20:09 <Goodygumdrops> do you durka?
20:09 <epsy> well I can't help you then
20:09 <Durka> idk
20:10 <Goodygumdrops> but i'm all alone in there
20:10 <Goodygumdrops> someone come play :-\
20:10 <Durka> epsy: u have the pw right?
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20:11 <Goodygumdrops> is there anyone from ds here?
20:12 <epsy> you want to use DS's sumobar?
20:12 <Goodygumdrops> we need to tell them
20:12 <Goodygumdrops> where we are playing
20:12 <epsy> ah
20:12 <Corn> where are we playing pink tomatoes?
20:12 <sagelord2> ct cafe clone
20:12 <Corn> ok
20:12 <epsy> was z-man's server replaced?
20:13 <Corn> it isn't online so yeah
20:13 <Goodygumdrops> yes, we are using ct's cafe clone instead of zman's
20:13 <epsy> ok
20:13 <epsy> G5: ping
20:13 <epsy> oh
20:13 <epsy> uhm
20:13 <epsy> DS is lacking on players
20:13 <epsy> so they might be forfeiting
20:14 <Goodygumdrops> darn :-(
20:14 <G5> epsy: I think we will play ...
20:14 <Corn> aw
20:14 <epsy> neat
20:14 <Corn> i wanted to play them
20:14 <Corn> yay
20:14 <Corn> g5: how many do you have
20:14 <epsy> G5, beware that ct 's café clone is replacing zman's
20:14 <G5> 5 I guess
20:14 <PinkTomato> Has anyone got a working online server browser please :)
20:14 <Ratchet--> pink
20:14 <Ratchet--> PinkTomato:
20:14 <Ratchet--> PinkTomato:
20:14 <epsy> fire up arma
20:14 <Ratchet--> !!!
20:14 <Ratchet--> PINK!
20:15 <Durka> yes pink
20:15 <G5> cafe clone isnt that bad ... as long as it is not open sumo :)
20:15 <epsy> it's online and it's a server browser
20:15 <Durka> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/serverxml.php?stripcolors
20:15 <Corn> pink: this irc runs a server browser
20:15 <PinkTomato> epsy: my connection only allows 20 connections to servers at a time
20:15 <PinkTomato> so i only get 20 servers
20:15 <Ratchet--> @servecrs
20:15 <Ratchet--> #servers
20:15 <armabot> Ratchet--: This data is 65100 seconds old; [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (11/12), {Delicious Desserts} Racing II (10/14), |FA| BLACK TAR (9/16), The YELLOW Submarine (9/16), |FA| Devils Rings! (8/16), Birdy's Nest (Loose DF) (8/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (8/10), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (8/12), Crazy-Tronners Hexperimental sumo (8/12), Crazy Tronners Wild (2 more messages)
20:15 <Durka> PinkTomato: can u open ur server maybe?
20:15 <freako> wich server we play?
20:15 <PinkTomato> Wrtl's is 65029 secs old
20:15 <freako> I need to know now!
20:15 <Durka> someone wants to get in
20:15 <Ratchet--> PINK!
20:15 <Ratchet--> http://maptools.armagetronad.net/map-preview/previews/Paralyzed/PentaRace-beta-3.png
20:15 <PinkTomato> Ratchet!
20:15 <epsy> PinkTomato, type browser_ in console
20:15 <PinkTomato> I'm taliking i heard.
20:15 <freako> what server do we play durka?
20:16 <Durka> idk if ur playing
20:16 <Durka> ;)
20:16 <freako> hehe
20:16 <Durka> but TR vs DS will be in fort cafe
20:16 <freako> ok
20:16 <PinkTomato> ratchet i'll look at maps later. epsy, fantastic! just what i needed :)
20:16 <Ratchet--> kk
20:17 <zmanuel> Is there a doc somewhere stating which team is from which continent?
20:17 <Durka> PinkTomato: Krikis wants to join the server
20:17 <freako> no
20:17 <PinkTomato> OK i just left :)
20:17 <freako> there isnt zman
20:18 <PinkTomato> Monkey has admin btw :)
20:18 <freako> but why is ur server down?
20:18 <zmanuel> It ran into a "too many processes open' problem and is up again.
20:18 <freako> :(
20:18 <freako> z-mans up? :O
20:18 <G5> We may have 6 players ...
20:18 <freako> yes!!!!
20:18 <Goodygumdrops> it's up?
20:18 <freako> durka can we play at z0mans now?
20:19 <Durka> is it up?
20:19 <Durka> ok
20:19 <Durka> we play there!
20:19 <zmanuel> It should be.
20:19 <Durka> zmanuel: whats it called
20:20 <zmanuel> Z-Man's Ladle Fortress
20:20 <Corn> thanks z
20:20 <Durka> dont see it
20:20 <Flex> Pathetique, can you kick or increase player slots, we can't join..
20:20 <Durka> #sd Z-Man
20:20 <armabot> Durka: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “z-man” at the moment, sorry.
20:20 <Durka> :\
20:20 <Corn> its there
20:20 <Corn> i just joined
20:20 <Pathetique> Administrator only
20:20 <Pathetique> <--- mod
20:20 <Flex> kick someone
20:20 <Durka> i dont see it
20:21 <Durka> nvr mind i see it :)
20:21 <freako> haha :P
20:21 <freako> smartass!
20:21 <Durka> ok ill be there
20:21 <Pathetique> AFAIK, everyone that is here is supposed to be here.
20:21 <Durka> cya
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20:22 <Flex> .ping
20:22 <tronner> pong
20:22 <Flex> lol, did the server just go down?
20:22 <K-Yo> fuck
20:22 <Flex> ct v kod
20:22 <freako> it crashed k-yo?
20:22 <pavelo> huh ?
20:22 <freako> ffs
20:22 <Lackadaisical> ouch
20:22 <freako> omg kod vs ct crashed?
20:23 <Flex> repeat round
20:23 <pavelo> now what?
20:23 <Flex> it was only 1 round
20:23 <freako> with a 94-90 score
20:23 <freako> kod 4 in front
20:23 <Lackadaisical> first to six points? :D
20:23 <freako> haha
20:23 <freako> :P
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20:23 <freako> this never happend lol
20:23 <noob_saibot> ct server for ladle
20:23 <hoop> hmmm... my gf invented a stupid song called "internet is dead" yesterday
20:23 -!- SageLord [n=aaron_wo@adsl-69-154-197-83.dsl.bumttx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
20:23  * pavelo blames epsy :P
20:23 <sagelord2> finally i timed out
20:23 <sagelord2> lol
20:24 <freako> ok....
20:24 <freako> how its going now?
20:24 <freako> that friggin update.
20:24 <freako> all join cafe?
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20:24 <Concord> did ct ladle just crash or is it me
20:24 <Lackadaisical> yeah it crashed
20:24 <noob_saibot> ok
20:24 <PinkTomato> Monkey_arma: are you setting limit to 16?
20:24 <noob_saibot> is that match over?
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20:24 <speed> lol
20:24 <PinkTomato> make sure that everyone is there... 10 players a team right?
20:25 <freako> 8
20:25 <PinkTomato> is it?
20:25 <PinkTomato> oh, I stand corrected
20:25 <Goodygumdrops> zman can you tell me ip, port of your server for custom connect?
20:25 <speed> is the match over?
20:25 <Goodygumdrops> or can anyone tell me?
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20:27 <Lackadaisical>
20:27 <Lackadaisical> port 4540
20:28 <PinkTomato> noob_saibot: how long until CT v KoD are finished?
20:28 <Lackadaisical> freako: is the game still going? did they get to decide who won that match?
20:29 <Monkey_arma> PinkTomato DOES THIS SERVER HAVE LADLE SETTINGS?
20:29 <PinkTomato> Monkey_arma: I included the 17th one of durka's website
20:29 <PinkTomato> whats the problem?
20:29 <freako> no not yet
20:29 <freako> im trying to arrange thing
20:29 <freako> but i got to play my own match 2
20:31 <PinkTomato> Monkey_arma: bug? that was pathetique i thought?
20:31 <Pathetique> no
20:31 <PinkTomato> oh right
20:31 <PinkTomato> I read the script
20:31 <Monkey_arma> ok fine
20:31 <Pathetique> i/o bus was lagging
20:31 <Pathetique> and was in god mode
20:31 <Pathetique> or something
20:31 <Monkey_arma> can i leave irc now/
20:31 <PinkTomato> I know what you mean :)
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20:32 <PinkTomato> wait why?
20:32 <Monkey_arma> PinkTomato yor server fucked
20:32 <Monkey_arma> I CANT SET MAX CLIENTS
20:32 <PinkTomato> I changed it...
20:32 <Pathetique> Pink
20:33 <PinkTomato> no wait
20:33 <PinkTomato> I can't either...
20:33 <PinkTomato> :S
20:33 <Pathetique> ACCESS_LEVEL MAX_CLIENTS to 2
20:33 <Pathetique> pink
20:33 <Pathetique> join and do that
20:33 <Pathetique> log in at owner level
20:34 <PinkTomato> I think RINCLUDE changed it
20:34 <Monkey_arma> jeessuZ
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20:36 <speed> god ...
20:37 <PinkTomato> speed: i know!
20:37 <PinkTomato> i wanna play :D
20:37 <speed> ct sort this problem out set score 4 points lead for kod and start a new match
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20:38 <PinkTomato> i'm worried we might not get everyone
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20:38 <speed> where the others at?
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20:39 <PinkTomato> no where
20:39 <PinkTomato> saibot is in the server
20:39 <speed> i know
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20:39 <PinkTomato> noob_saibot: can you let us know what is happening?
20:40 <PinkTomato> Monkey_arma I have no idea why it is doing that.
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20:40 <PinkTomato> There is no everyime.cfg in the directory
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20:41 <speed> man ct 1:1 kod ...
20:41 <Corn3> wtf i jyust got disconnected and the server isnt on the list
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20:41 <P4> list is brokeb :þ
20:42 <P4> broken*
20:47 <luke-jr> durka is a dorka
20:47 <PinkTomato> hi luke-jr :)
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20:48 <freako> tr vs DS  1-0
20:48 <freako> hows ct kod going?
20:48 <PinkTomato> 1 : 1
20:48 <PinkTomato> In round two at the moment
20:48 <PinkTomato> of 10
20:49 <PinkTomato> 18:10
20:49 <PinkTomato> CT wining
20:50 <luke-jr> hi PinkTomato
20:50 <luke-jr> how did dorka break teh server
20:50 <PinkTomato> Don't know really
20:51 <PinkTomato> It was said that it kept randomly kicking people
20:51 <luke-jr> well I restarted it
20:51 <PinkTomato> after that, kicked everyone and then just wouldn't restart
20:51 <luke-jr> I haz to give it a cheezburgr 2 restart
20:51 <PinkTomato> hehe :)
20:51 <PinkTomato> so is it working now
20:51 <PinkTomato> ?
20:52 <luke-jr> i guess
20:52 <luke-jr> nobody's there
20:52 <Pathetique> pink
20:52 <luke-jr> so who knows
20:52 <Pathetique> SPAM_MAXLEN 200
20:52 <Pathetique> now
20:52 <luke-jr> Pathetique: spammer!
20:52 <PinkTomato> why?
20:52 <Pathetique> JUST DO IT
20:52 <Pathetique> monkey accidentally set it to 20
20:52 <Pathetique> so now he can't increase it
20:52 <luke-jr> lulz
20:52 <PinkTomato> if only he set it to 21
20:53 <Pathetique> just set it
20:53 <Pathetique> ty
20:56 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: I can't find it :/
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20:58 <luke-jr> look harder
20:59 <PinkTomato> OK, it refuses to accept my connection
21:01 <luke-jr> I would too
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21:01 <luke-jr> just restarted it AGAIN
21:01 <luke-jr> [0] Bound socket to *.*.*.*:4534.
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21:02 <PinkTomato> What's the IP?
21:02 <luke-jr> lightfoot-ct.dashjr.org
21:03 <freako> tr vs DS  2-0
21:03 <luke-jr>
21:03 <luke-jr> any of those
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21:07 <Pathetique> New Money vs SP
21:07 <Pathetique> 2-0 SP
21:07 <madmax> how was that match?
21:07 <luke-jr> Pathetique: WRONG
21:07 <Pathetique> It was pretty good.
21:08 <Pathetique> SP practiced well.
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21:08 <madmax> even scores?
21:08 <Monkey_arma> well i think we need to sort out these server issues
21:08 <Pathetique> Indeed.
21:08 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: it was Durka!
21:09 <Monkey_arma> we had settings  that even i as admin could not change
21:09 <madmax> and set a rule on server crashes (®hoop)
21:09 <Monkey_arma> like spam_maxlen 20!!!!
21:09 <Monkey_arma> yep max
21:09 <Pathetique> well
21:09 <Monkey_arma> we were all talking in shorthand
21:09 <Monkey_arma> lol
21:09 <luke-jr> hm
21:09 <Pathetique> that was because of the fact that /admin spam_maxlen 200 was longer than 20 characters, monkey
21:09 <madmax> like
21:09 <Monkey_arma> also the max_clients
21:09 <madmax> 2020
21:09 <madmax> would
21:09 <luke-jr> hey
21:09 <Monkey_arma> ah
21:09 <luke-jr> are you guys actually using auth?
21:09 <Monkey_arma> well the maxlen was only 80 to start
21:09 <Pathetique> indeed.
21:10 <Monkey_arma> its not PinkTomato fault
21:10 <Monkey_arma> its the luke-jr's!
21:10 <luke-jr> <.<
21:10 <luke-jr> pthreads!
21:10 <Pathetique> He just needs to work on his ACCESS_LEVEL stuff.
21:10 <Monkey_arma> tbh i was ok on his server
21:10 <Monkey_arma> but sage and others were getting kicked
21:10 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: did they try to login maybe?
21:11 <Monkey_arma> idk but i dont think so
21:11 <luke-jr> I think it was running a pthreads-auth ver
21:11 <Monkey_arma> ok and is pthreads perhaps not on other servers?
21:11 <Monkey_arma> basically, to get to the point, was it your fault luke
21:11 <luke-jr> dunno, we don't have any auth releases yet
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21:11 <luke-jr> so everyone with auth is using some svn/bzr
21:11 <AshitakA> Is DS playing against New Money?
21:12 <hoop> freako kod missed you :(
21:12 <madmax> I think there's only a 3rd place game ashi
21:12 <Monkey_arma> it was good to see old psyko back tho
21:12 <luke-jr> it is?
21:12 <AshitakA> would be nice anyway
21:12 -!- freako [i=541fbdee@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-42634cbff1794c56] has quit ["http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client"]
21:12 <Monkey_arma> well ashi i think all my people have fucked off
21:12 <madmax> did he def?
21:12 <Monkey_arma> ah i think he did
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21:13 <Lackadaisical> is he still good?
21:13 <Monkey_arma> ye
21:13 <Monkey_arma> anyway lack, get back to ur exams ...
21:13 <Monkey_arma> !
21:13 <Monkey_arma> :P
21:13 <Lackadaisical> haha
21:13 <Lizmatic> wooowo
21:13 <Monkey_arma> i think kod missed lack and freako
21:14 <Monkey_arma> right?
21:14 <Pathetique> I'm off to shower and such to go out to my aunt's house. Cu all
21:14 -!- Pathetique [n=Pathetiq@adsl-99-20-104-5.dsl.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net] has quit ["Goodbye, Internet."]
21:14 <zmanuel> epsy or anyone else on WW: sorry, can't record. server is full.
21:14 <madmax> yeah, we needed 10 in order to win it :-/
21:14 <epsy> thanks, I actually couldn't get in
21:14 <madmax> j/k :P
21:14 <Monkey_arma> so i take it my CT predicition was correct
21:15 <luke-jr> :o
21:15 <Monkey_arma> if id not been so stubborn and bet on sp (like i wanted to) for 4th place ...damn
21:15 <luke-jr> zmanuel: you making fixed fps recordings? :þ
21:15 <Monkey_arma> i woulda won the betting thing
21:15 <Monkey_arma> but i had to put NM :P
21:15 <zmanuel> luke-jr: sure. 60fps.
21:15 <luke-jr> cool
21:15 <zmanuel> But can't, because I can't join.
21:15 <luke-jr> zmanuel: planning to make video files?
21:15 <zmanuel> no.
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21:21 <Monkey_arma> i will edit wiki
21:22 <Monkey_arma> actually its too much for my brain...
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21:32 <Monkey_arma> madmax come watch psyko if you want, hes in the CT SP match now
21:34 <PinkTomato> @linkladle
21:34 <teabot> Ladle : http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Ladle/Challenge_Board
21:35 <Monkey_arma> PinkTomato how was not vs ct ?
21:35 <PinkTomato> a thrashing
21:35 <PinkTomato> xD
21:35 <PinkTomato> I only got chance to warm up near the end
21:36 <PinkTomato> oh well :) bit of fun
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21:48 -!- _TaZ_ [i=981ee217@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-db75ae7442eb66e0] has joined #armagetron
21:48 <_TaZ_> :(
21:49 -!- Corn3 [n=corn@pool-71-252-33-206.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron
21:49 <Goodygumdrops> did anyone decide where ladle finals are being played?
21:51 <PinkTomato> Assume its CT I guess
21:51 <madmax> I think durka settle that on the forum thread
21:51 <madmax> not sure which was it though heh
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21:52 <Goodygumdrops> okay
21:52 <Goodygumdrops> we are talking with ct
21:52 <Goodygumdrops> we've decided to play in ww
21:53 <Goodygumdrops> since we are all in there
21:53 <Goodygumdrops> i guess
21:53 <Goodygumdrops> heh
21:53 <Flex> go straight and hope for the best
21:53 <Flex> GG, is that how it happens in european servers..
21:54 -!- freako [i=541fbdee@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f2555b155135f16a] has joined #armagetron
21:54 <freako> kicki non players
21:54 <freako> i cant join
21:54 <freako> do!!!!
21:55 <Monkey_arma> Flex u r so noooobs
21:55 <Flex> yes
21:55 <Monkey_arma> we cant even watch the fkin final
21:55 <Monkey_arma> fkin ww server 16 client bs
21:55 <Monkey_arma> even after they upgraded?
21:55 <Monkey_arma> ffs
21:55 <PinkTomato> why can we not go past 16!
21:56 <K-Yo> Monkey_arma, we play smwehre else
21:56 <PinkTomato> ?
21:56 <Monkey_arma> k
21:56 <PinkTomato> is there a compiler option?
21:56 <K-Yo> PinkTomato, us ur server setup?
21:56 <PinkTomato> mine
21:57 <PinkTomato> well anyones
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21:57 <Monkey_arma> pink if you arent using a recent 0.2.8 for server then u r noob
21:57 -!- freako [i=541fbdee@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f2555b155135f16a] has quit [Client Quit]
21:57 <K-Yo> PinkTomato, can u give me admin or owner plz?
21:57 <PinkTomato> MAX_CLIENTS is hard set to 16 on mine.
21:57 <Monkey_arma> it should be standard
21:57 <PinkTomato> so same problem as WW
21:57 <Monkey_arma> on old servers it is 16 max
21:58 <PinkTomato> the thing is it is r912
21:58 <PinkTomato> or r899
21:58 <PinkTomato> can't remeber
21:58 <ct|kyle> did x loose?
21:58 <K-Yo> hard set?
21:58 <Monkey_arma> it is truly sad this ladle
21:58 <madmax> lol
21:59 <PinkTomato> K-Yo: it won't change higher than 16
21:59 <Monkey_arma> have you got access levels wrong???
21:59 <Monkey_arma> check them
21:59 <K-Yo> ok
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22:00 <Corn> i cant get into pink tomatoes
22:00 <ct|kyle> wrtlprnft: Your server data is old again :)
22:00 <Monkey_arma> join the cue corn
22:00 <Corn> k im in
22:00 <Monkey_arma> *queue
22:00 <PinkTomato> fudge sake
22:01 <_TaZ_> monkey_arma, this ladle was sad
22:01 <PinkTomato> unix screen has gone wierd
22:01 <Monkey_arma> yup
22:01 <PinkTomato> I can''t get access
22:01 <Monkey_arma> i think its time to ban wild west from anything ladle like
22:02 <Monkey_arma> same for lukes servers
22:02 <PinkTomato> i apologise for mine too
22:02 <Corn> next ladle can we try to use fort servers with more then 16 clients max
22:02 <Corn> its really annoying
22:02 <PinkTomato> I don't understand, I compiled it only last month
22:02 <Corn> not your fault
22:02 <PinkTomato> K-Yo: have you got admin?
22:02 <Monkey_arma> PinkTomato you were not supposed to be supplyoing one. its not ur fault
22:03 <_TaZ_> What server do you need admin to?
22:03 <K-Yo> PinkTomato, moderator
22:03 <K-Yo> tthrough staff of tst
22:03 <PinkTomato> Ah right. you should be able to change max_clients via that
22:03 <PinkTomato> but it dosen't stay
22:03 <Monkey_arma> no it doesnt
22:04 <PinkTomato> what happen with Ww Servers?
22:04 <Lizmatic> SP, you gonna come
22:04 <Lizmatic> ?
22:04 <Corn> they have max clients 16 too but they're laggier then your server
22:04 <Lizmatic> SP membaz to zmans please..
22:04 <madmax> is anyone from SP even here?
22:05 <Monkey_arma> i doubt it
22:05 <madmax> aka, no
22:05 <Flex> Monkey_arma i blame you for ww server being in the ladle
22:05 <Monkey_arma> lol
22:05 <Flex> some how you're involved..
22:06 <Monkey_arma> nope
22:06 <Monkey_arma> they always have one
22:06 <_TaZ_> Do you guys till need admin access for ww server?
22:06 <Monkey_arma> durka and i kept telllin them to upgrade
22:06 <_TaZ_> still*
22:06 <Monkey_arma> they finally did but still fucked up
22:06 <Flex> we played two matches in ww.. is that even fair..
22:06 <_TaZ_> What's going on with it?
22:07 <Corn> if yuou had lost you'd only have to play 1
22:07 <_TaZ_> Code has admin access to it
22:08 <PinkTomato> epsy: for future reference, is there something you need to do to do maxclients > 16?
22:08 <K-Yo> PinkTomato, u got score_hole on ur server?
22:08 <PinkTomato> i should have
22:08 <K-Yo> PinkTomato, that is not ladle settings :/
22:10 <Monkey_arma> PinkTomato there is no configure option for clients
22:10 <Monkey_arma> for current 0.2.8
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22:14 <Monkey_arma> quick point: why the F*** arent they using zmans?
22:14 <PinkTomato> It must be the latest 0.2.8 though, overwise logging in through tst/staff would not work
22:14 <PinkTomato> Monkey_arma good question :)
22:15 <epsy> PinkTomato, on wildwest?
22:15 <PinkTomato> spare space, go grab it
22:15 <epsy> it gets reset every round
22:15 <epsy> that serv's shit :|
22:15 <PinkTomato> yeah on mine too
22:16 <PinkTomato> :/
22:16 <Monkey_arma> dont they need that space?
22:16 <Monkey_arma> PinkTomato
22:16 <PinkTomato> Not sure, I think someone left,
22:17 <Monkey_arma> they will prob come bck
22:17 <PinkTomato> prob.
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22:21 <epsy> I think we can forget about that 3rd place ieda
22:25 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Paralyzed/race/loco-1.aamap.xml: Resource by Paralyzed
22:29 <Lizmatic> um we are 3rd epsy, they didnt show up
22:30 <epsy> yeah
22:31 <epsy> I officialised it on the wiki already
22:31 <epsy> so, uhm, did CT play this whole ladle in their own server?
22:31 <PinkTomato> They were on my server for the final
22:31 <PinkTomato> but I don't know if they gave up on it or not
22:33 <zmanuel> Seeing as the final is already over, I suppose someone gave up.
22:33 <epsy> uh?
22:33 <Corn> it isnt?
22:33 <Corn> were playing it
22:33 <zmanuel> Is not?
22:33 <Corn> 1st match done
22:33 <epsy> pinktomato's is full
22:33 <zmanuel> Oh, right, I was looking at the wrong server.
22:33 <Corn> :P
22:33 <Monkey_arma> dont worry, we will be setting fire to wild west some time tonight
22:34 <madmax> did WW ever get >16 slots? was it not on previous ladles?
22:34 <epsy> Corn, can you tell concord to update that fucking banner?
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22:34 <PinkTomato> Did no one have adminstrative access?
22:34 <epsy> it has ALWAYS been like this with WW
22:34 <PinkTomato> madmax:  It was 16 max on the last server as well
22:34 <epsy> PinkTomato, where at?
22:34 <PinkTomato> at Ww
22:34 <Corn> k
22:34 <epsy> I had
22:35 <PinkTomato> ah right,
22:35 <Monkey_arma> madmax that was an issue in past ladles becuase they had an old server version
22:35 <epsy> and it really sucked
22:35 <Monkey_arma> <Monkey_arma> durka and i kept telllin them to upgrade
22:35 <Monkey_arma> <Monkey_arma> they finally did but still fucked up
22:35 <epsy> durka had claimed in the TST thread they had upgraded
22:35 <epsy> ..
22:35 <Monkey_arma> they shouldve put clients to >16
22:35 <epsy> authentication was not enabled and language files were out of date
22:36 <madmax> jeez, calm down. when there wasn't servers with >16 slots games got played too you know
22:36 <PinkTomato> I think in the ladle settings TEAM_MAX_PLAYERS is 8
22:36 <Monkey_arma> are we moving backwards?
22:36 <PinkTomato> still, would be nice to spectate :)
22:36 <epsy> there was only one WW round before, and I didn't had to admin it, max
22:36 <Monkey_arma> last ladle i got to watch the final
22:36 <epsy> PinkTomato, yes
22:37 <Monkey_arma> so how come this time we have a situation like this. i dont think i need to calm down i think the server issues are shit
22:37 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Paralyzed/race/loco-2.aamap.xml: Resource by Paralyzed
22:37 <Paralyzed> http://maptools.armagetronad.net/map-preview/previews/Paralyzed/loco-1.png
22:37 <madmax> welcome to the "provided as is" reality
22:37 <Paralyzed> :D
22:37 <Monkey_arma> welcome to the wild west are retards and so is lukejr
22:37 <Monkey_arma> how hard to set max clients? seriously
22:38 <Monkey_arma> pink has a server that is better than ww yet we used ww in good faith that they had their shit together
22:38 <Paralyzed> fuck yea it is
22:38 <Monkey_arma> exactly
22:38 <Monkey_arma> so next time we give your server priority
22:38 <Monkey_arma> also, you are intelligent
22:39 <PinkTomato> Nice xD. hehe ty :)
22:39 <Monkey_arma> good to have an intelligent admin
22:39 <epsy> to comment on Monkey_arma's remark, which is childishly ignoring me *oh poor VIP*, it was impossible to set max_clients higher than 16 for more than one round
22:39 <Paralyzed> tomato
22:39 <Paralyzed> u see the new map? XD
22:39 <Monkey_arma> because its a "free" community we tolerate sloppiness do we? i dont thanks madmax
22:39 <PinkTomato> Paralyzed: Have to be tomorrow, essay writing throughout hte night
22:39 <Paralyzed> ok
22:39 <Paralyzed> i have another i made
22:39 <Paralyzed> do you like it?
22:40 <PinkTomato> again have to be tomorrow xD
22:40 <Paralyzed> did u see it though..
22:40 <Paralyzed> i sent a pic. lol
22:40 <PinkTomato> TR 1 - 1 CT
22:41 <epsy> first to two right?
22:41 <PinkTomato> yes
22:41 <PinkTomato> no wait
22:41 <epsy> phew
22:41 <PinkTomato> I thought we changed it to 3?
22:41 <epsy> I thought we changed it back
22:41 <PinkTomato> I didn't follow the discussion, i have a 3 in my head for somereason
22:41 <madmax> no we don't. but if they're providing a server on good will, and problems came up, well, shit happens. you still have 8on8 which exactly what's necessary for a ladle game
22:41 <PinkTomato> Oh right :)
22:42 <epsy> but since we got in a place where things get voted but the outcome never updates the guidelines, we don't know
22:42 <Lackadaisical> the finals are first to three, there was only some discussion on the losers final being first to two instead of three
22:42 <epsy> that 3rd place match didn't even happen
22:42 <Lackadaisical> (yes monkey im going back to work!!)
22:42 <hoax> In a final, I wouldn't want some wasteman watching us play
22:42 <epsy> there was ONE speeder
22:42 <Monkey_arma> :P
22:43 <epsy> hoax, even if it's yourself?
22:43 <Monkey_arma> madmax actually, we had a match where not all of my team could enter. same for other teams.
22:43 <Monkey_arma> what about substitutes?
22:43 <epsy> what about admins
22:43 <hoax> whats that supposed to mean, epsy
22:43 <epsy> what about recorders?
22:43 <Monkey_arma> redice and physix had to stay out of the server and not play
22:43 <epsy> hoax, :D
22:43 <PinkTomato> is anyone recording the final?
22:43 <madmax> yes I know. but it's still doable
22:43 <hoax> >.>
22:44 <epsy> no, it's not possible
22:44 <Monkey_arma> but it is not good enough
22:44 <epsy> it's a step backwards
22:44 <hoax> no one needs to spec except eg z-manrecording
22:44 <epsy> why I am even replying to you Monkey_arma
22:44 <epsy> fuck you
22:44 <hoax> ;)
22:44 <Monkey_arma> go tell redice and physix that
22:45 <madmax> okay, I should learn by now. /me stops arguing
22:46 <Monkey_arma> if you seriously think that it is good enough then there is no hope for this shit community..ye lets stop arguing its a waste of breath
22:46 <epsy> madmax, *with monkey
22:46 <epsy> (hi there!)
22:46 <madmax> the bitching between the two of you is getting annoying, you know?
22:47 <epsy> hoax: let's talk about how Monkey_arma's shite sucks
22:47 <hoax> lol
22:47 <hoax> don't need to :P
22:47 <epsy> bofh, who cares, he's not even reading me, er us
22:47 <madmax> no, I don't think it's good enough, I'm saying they provided the server, which happened to not have more than 16 slots, too bad
22:47 <zmanuel> epsy, Monkey_arma: can you move your "discussions" into private space?
22:48 <Lackadaisical> Monkey_arma has epsy silenced right? its just epsy complaining about him to us no?
22:48 <Monkey_arma> im not even talking to epsy
22:48 <hoax> hey madmax, I need advice :/
22:48 <Monkey_arma> he is silenced
22:48 <madmax> pretty much lack.
22:48 <Monkey_arma> and has been for weeks
22:48 <Monkey_arma> i cant see anything he writes
22:48 <epsy> and plays everyone else's internal voice
22:49 <Monkey_arma>  Hostmask                  PRIV NOTI CHAN CTCP DCC  INVI UNIG
22:49 <Monkey_arma>  
22:49 <Monkey_arma>  epsy*                     YES  YES  YES  YES  YES  YES  NO
22:49 <Monkey_arma>  
22:49 <epsy> what's UNIG already?
22:49 <epsy> oh yeah, unignore
22:50 <PinkTomato> ROUND 6 of 10
22:51 <epsy> scores?
22:51 <PinkTomato> can't tell ;(
22:51 <epsy> look in players.txt
22:51 <PinkTomato> players.txt only has players no teams
22:51 <madmax> PinkTomato: third match?
22:51 <epsy> blahrg
22:51 <PinkTomato> yeap
22:51 <PinkTomato> CtxWoned        No     18     52    Crazy Tronners
22:51 <PinkTomato> %|% man2d       No     12     180   Twisted Rats
22:51 <PinkTomato> CT_emphasis     Yes    10     144   Crazy Tronners
22:51 <PinkTomato> %|% Corn        No     8      69    Twisted Rats
22:52 <PinkTomato> top four players
22:52 <PinkTomato> looks close
22:52 <PinkTomato> there's a winner!
22:52 <PinkTomato> gm gz all round
22:52 <Lackadaisical> so who won?
22:52 <sinewav> ???
22:52 <epsy> ¿¿¿
22:52 <Monkey_arma> !
22:52 <Corn> its out of 5 not 3 pink
22:52 <sinewav> :-O
22:52 <PinkTomato> TR 1 2 CT
22:52 <epsy> ¡
22:53 <sinewav> Keep the play-by-play coming...
22:53 <PinkTomato> ok :)
22:54 <Corn> breaking news: corn keeps on disconnecting from the server and its annoying him to hell
22:54 <Monkey_arma> CT are such a solid team...every one of their 8 is a really good player
22:54 <sinewav> Sorry Corn. :(
22:54 <Corn> :(
22:54 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Paralyzed/race/psychopath-4.aamap.xml: Resource by Paralyzed
22:54 <epsy> yep, and the other day ¦×¦ was being gaining an enormous amount of strength
22:55 <epsy> *-being
22:55 <PinkTomato> sorry Corn, no idea :(.
22:56 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: f u
22:56 <Paralyzed> i got my maps to preview on previewer
22:56 <Paralyzed> but they still dont show on resource
22:57 <Monkey_arma> PinkTomato any chance you can ouput the logs to say #ladle ?
22:57 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: not my fault you ladle people can't configure a server right
22:57 <Paralyzed> luke, help?
22:57 <luke-jr> here I am donating hosting and all you can do is whine about problems that has nothing to do with my role
22:57 <Paralyzed> dont get too pissed on me...
22:57 <Monkey_arma> luke, speak to the many complainers about it
22:57 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: configure it right next time
22:58 <Monkey_arma> surely only the ladle config was to be added yes?
22:58 <Monkey_arma> no physical server characteristics
22:58 <Monkey_arma> the issue with your server was many people getting kicked
22:58 <Monkey_arma> not the config
22:58 <luke-jr> that would be the config
22:58 <luke-jr> or the admin
22:58 <luke-jr> [15:37:59] <Monkey_arma> how hard to set max clients? seriously
22:58 <luke-jr> and guess what
22:58 <luke-jr> that's config too
22:58 <luke-jr> retard
22:58 <Monkey_arma> luke that was for wild west only
22:59 <Monkey_arma> your max clients were fine
22:59 <Monkey_arma> it was lag/automatically getting disconnected for many people
22:59 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: then figure out what config option you're setting that does it
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22:59 <PinkTomato> Monkey_arma going to throw the best bits in #ladle
22:59 <Monkey_arma> oO
22:59  * Monkey_arma heads there
23:01 <epsy> PinkTomato, once it is done can you get concord to come here or somewhere?
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23:02 <PinkTomato> ? don't have concord
23:02 <epsy> well, he's playing for CT
23:02 <epsy> isn't he?
23:02 <sinewav> no
23:02 <epsy> I can swear he was
23:03 <PinkTomato> epsy: i've lost the screen session, became hidden
23:03 <PinkTomato> don't want to fiddle with it just in case I quit it
23:03 <sinewav> oh wait, concord is there.
23:03 <sinewav> `soz
23:03 <epsy> yeah, he's there
23:03 <sinewav>  I think he was missing earlier
23:03 <epsy> PinkTomato, uh?
23:04 <sinewav> Pink, the play-by-play. What's the score?
23:04 <PinkTomato> ROUND_SCORE_TEAM 24 crazy_tronners
23:04 <PinkTomato> ROUND_SCORE_TEAM 12 twisted_rats
23:05 <Monkey_arma> sinewav join #ladle
23:05 <epsy> so it's 2 - 2 ?
23:05 <sinewav> K
23:05 <PinkTomato> TR 1 - 2 CT
23:05 <PinkTomato> I believe
23:06 <madmax> PinkTomato: screen -rad ?
23:06 <epsy> but, didn't you say a match was won?
23:06 <epsy> they really only scored this since then?*
23:06 <PinkTomato> Hm... the rounds are really long
23:06 <epsy> typical of CT
23:06 <epsy> lol
23:06 <PinkTomato> xD
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23:07 <PinkTomato> madmax: it says that I am attached to the ladle screen
23:07 <PinkTomato> when i'm not
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23:07 <PinkTomato> if that makes sense :)
23:08 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, screen as in the linux program screen?
23:08 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: yes
23:09 <BabyBug> screen -d screenname
23:09 <BabyBug> should detach it
23:09 <epsy> BabyBug, no, he put rubber tape around him and his screen
23:09  * BabyBug smacks epsy 
23:10 <Corn> just played a 7 minute round that was boring
23:10 <Corn> least i was alive
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23:12 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: thankyou that worked!
23:12 <BabyBug> yw PinkTomato =)
23:12 <Corn> tr wins i think its 4th match
23:13 <Corn> 2 - 2
23:18 <Lizmatic> tr won the ladle?
23:18 <epsy> Lizmatic, read up one line
23:18 <Lizmatic> bah, i hope ct doesnt win agaiiiin
23:19 <hoax> lol
23:19 <hoax> you mean you dont want ct to win more that tr :D
23:20 <epsy> Lizmatic, TR's kind of winning
23:20 <Monkey_arma> fofo is online oO
23:22 <ct|kyle> hoax: we know deep down you want CT to win again
23:23 <hoax> doesn't bother me ct|kyle, shouldn't you be playing though? ^^
23:23 <ct|kyle> i got schoolwork due tonight
23:24 <hoax> you suck anyway :D
23:25 <hoax> although maybe not in pinktoms serv :|
23:25 <epsy> 90-52 for TR
23:27 <PinkTomato> 92 94
23:28 <epsy> for TR ^^
23:28 <Corn> 98 to 96 tTR
23:28 <Corn> TR WINS 100 to 98
23:28 <Monkey_arma> heh
23:29 <K-Yo> tr won
23:29 <epsy> get me concord
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23:29 <Corn> woot
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23:29 <SageLord> woot
23:29 <Lackadaisical> congrats
23:29 <hoax> Like, wtf?
23:29 <Monkey_arma> gz sage
23:29 <SageLord> ty guys
23:29 <freako> hehe niiice, we won :)
23:29 <Corn> thats as close as arma matches get
23:29 <SageLord> yea no kidding
23:29 <K-Yo> I really though we could win
23:30 <freako> it was close :p
23:30 <K-Yo> we went from 52-90 to 96-96
23:30 <K-Yo> :P
23:30 <SageLord> yea that was crazy
23:30 <PinkTomato> congrats
23:30 <Monkey_arma> nt K-Yo and CT
23:30 <PinkTomato> we followed it on terminal screen xD
23:30 <K-Yo> :P
23:30 <K-Yo> oh
23:30 <K-Yo> :)
23:30 <PinkTomato> 100-98 right/
23:30 <PinkTomato> ?
23:30 <Monkey_arma> ye in #ladle
23:31 <epsy> yeah
23:31 <epsy> holy shit where's concord?
23:32 <madmax> congrats TR :)
23:33 <K-Yo> epsy, probably writing reporst
23:33 <freako> madmax how did ur match vs CT end?
23:33 <freako> a close end?
23:33 <epsy> yeah, sticked a private post >.<
23:33 <epsy> he's never on IM
23:34 <epsy> so, have you been mumbling K-Yo ? \o
23:34 <madmax> freako: 2-1, third match was like 100-50/60
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23:36 <sagelord2> hmm
23:36 <MaZuffeR> madmax, it was 100-74
23:36 <madmax> er, oops
23:36 <madmax> well it *seemed* like 100-50! :-)
23:37 <freako> haha :p
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23:44 <K-Yo> epsy, I always do
23:44 <epsy> :O
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23:46 <epsy> there is the fucker >:)
23:47  * Concord leaves
23:49 <freako> epsy
23:49 <freako> Why did u tell CT to update there CT1 ladle server?
23:50 <epsy> I told them? huh, I've only tortured them!
23:50 <freako> that update is not correct it seems
23:50 <freako> did Z-man did it 2?
23:50 <epsy> well I don't know what they upgraded to
23:50 <epsy> I am not mindreading, and you know is especially well, freako
23:50 <freako> that upgrade caused my game to lose fps ( but it doesnt show the fps drop)
23:51 <epsy> lol?
23:51 <freako> it only happens on that* upgraded servers
23:51 <epsy> what client are you using?
23:51 <freako> 0.3 not sure wich version... where can i find the correct version name?
23:51 <epsy> you can hardly do on alpha releases
23:52 <freako> odd :(
23:52 <K-Yo> #last --from=K-Yo --with=9
23:52 <armabot> K-Yo: [23:30:10] <K-Yo> we went from 52-90 to 96-96
23:52 <K-Yo> #last --from=K-Yo --with=9 --nolimit
23:52 <armabot> K-Yo: [23:52:26] <K-Yo> #last --from=K-Yo --with=9 and [23:30:10] <K-Yo> we went from 52-90 to 96-96
23:52 <K-Yo> argh
23:52 <K-Yo> #last --from=K-Yo --with=91
23:52 <armabot> K-Yo: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 1839 messages.
23:52 <epsy> freako, see the date on the main screen and compare it with what's on aabeta
23:53 <freako> mmm... i have this i think
23:53 <freako> Game/Client 0.3 0.3.0 Windows x86_32 .exe 5.14 MB Z-Man
23:54 <epsy> that's from 2006, try with a newer build
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23:54 <freako> where can i get a newer build?
23:54 <epsy> on aabeta
23:54 <freako> this is from the beta.armagetronad site
23:54 <epsy> yeah, you can even get Walls 0.1 on aabeta
23:54 <epsy> it's not because it's on aabeta that it's the latest available on aabeta*
23:55 <freako> wtf
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23:55 <freako> so i have to use the one from wrtl? that on sucks
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23:55 <epsy> yeah, the latest one
23:55 <epsy> how does it suck?
23:56 <freako> every updated version from wrtl has annoying gameplay
23:56 <freako> u can feel it when u play rounds
23:56 <freako> its to static
23:56 <epsy> ah, since when does client affect gameplay?
23:56 <freako> See for urself...
23:56 <freako> try the z-mans , try the wrtl
23:56 <epsy> I'm using something near very latest trunk..
23:57 <freako> Ur bike* doesnt move as freely in the wrtl version as the z-mans release
23:57 <epsy> cycle movement is controlled by server
23:57 <freako> cant the newer anti-lag-code be included in the z-mans?
23:58 <freako> Epsy, the wrtl version has to much quality*
23:58 <epsy> no, there has been no lag code changes since long ago
23:58 <epsy> what?
23:58 <freako> I can set my video card at high quality/low speed
23:58 <freako> the gameplay sucks then.. even with 500 fps
23:59 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft should be putting builds up on beta.aa.net too
23:59 <epsy> I barely understand what you mean..
23:59 <epsy> luke-jr, he did
23:59 <freako> i can set it at  low quality/high speed    the moves are shown better
23:59 <freako> its hard to explain if u didnt try it
23:59 <epsy> perhaps turn vsync on...
23:59 <freako> vsync is sucks on arma
23:59 <luke-jr> …
23:59 <freako> atleast on my pc
23:59 <epsy> try in your gfx driver
23:59 <freako> it gives me 25 fps...
23:59  * luke-jr smells an idiot.

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00:00 <luke-jr> freako: guess what
00:00 <freako> while my monitor has 80...
00:00 <luke-jr> your EYES only SUPPORT 25 fps
00:00 <freako> vsync on 25 is bs , u know that
00:00 <luke-jr> I know you can't see a difference.
00:00 <epsy> freako, set vsync on the gfx driver
00:00 <freako> i did
00:00 <freako> thats the only place where i can add it
00:01 <luke-jr> …
00:01 <epsy> no, there's a switch in arma as well
00:01 <freako> my arma doesnt have the latest trunk
00:01 <freako> so i dont have the switch
00:01 <epsy> well you said you were fine with .3
00:01 <epsy> so indeed you dont have to change anything on .3 ...
00:02 <freako> damned....
00:02 <freako> just play 0.3 from z-man
00:02 <freako> and play the version of wrtl
00:02 <freako> world of changes
00:02 <freako> bad changes*
00:02 <epsy> yeah, one is two years old, the other is 6 months old
00:02 <epsy> what did you expect?
00:02 <freako> thats means we can better quit making 0.3 ?
00:02 <epsy> it to be the same?
00:02 <freako> because the upgrades making it worse?
00:03 <epsy> seriousely, I don't see how it is worse
00:03 <freako> brb got to find the topic on the arma forums about it
00:04 <freako> on the old 0.3 beta i could get over 400 fps in a local game and 50-150 in Fortress with 10 people, now its 150-300 in local and 30-60 in 10-man Fort...
00:04 <freako> Quote*
00:05 <freako> rico had the same probs with vsync
00:05 <epsy> crappy driver, nothing I can do about
00:05 <epsy> especially if it's nvidia
00:05 <freako> First, I'm playing with these build for a few days (mainly local game). I use to have some weird behavior with previous build: a kind of delay between the keystroke and the effective turn even in local game (using windows xp on a macbook. Driver is an nvidia one) ...
00:05 <freako> this is a quote from voodoo
00:06 <freako> kind of delay between the keystroke and the effective turn even in local game <----this is what i mean
00:06 <epsy> yeah, there is such a delay
00:06 <freako> that delay isnt in the z-mans version
00:06 <epsy> that delay is everywhere
00:07 <freako> the delay is bigger* on the wrtl version
00:07 <freako> thats why I hate it :/
00:07 <epsy> idk, I play fine on recent builds..
00:07 <epsy> more than on .3
00:08 <epsy> a bit less since the last driver update >.<
00:08 <freako> ati ?
00:08 <epsy> i915 in mesa
00:09 <freako> an intel cart :O
00:10 <epsy> yeah, intel now makes shopping carts
00:10 <freako> another quote :(
00:10 <freako> And yes, it affects all versions,but since i installed 0.3.0 i can play normal on some servers,anyways i think its some uncompatibility problem, not a bug in the clients.If i cant solve it, i'll have to live with it,..and i'll enter the matrix--arma slow-mo mode
00:11 <freako> guess I got to live with the lag,,, on those upgraded servers then... till my version isnt supported anymore
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00:13 <epsy> trunk is not a supported branch
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00:21 <epsy> have a good night
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01:29 <Paralyzed> hey guys
01:30 <luke-jr> no
01:33 <Paralyzed> no what
01:35 <luke-jr> no
01:35 <ivantis> no playing on my lawn, you rotten little kid
01:37 <ivantis> Paralyzed, still there?
01:44 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: i donno if someone said this but, configure with CXXFLAGS=-DMAXCLIENTS=32  (or replave 32 with max clients :) )
01:46 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: thanks :D
01:47 <Paralyzed> pink ratchet is looking for u
01:49 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: no problem
01:49 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: i ran into that problem a few ladles back :)
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02:03 <ivantis> oh he left
02:03 <ivantis> luke-jr: look what he sent me while hes gone:
02:04 <ivantis> luke-jr: 2398239L029332U293023K98323E2838273872I98239823S98239823A82738232D298737823I2983829382C92839823923K =~ s/\d+//g
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02:08 <luke-jr> …
02:10 <ivantis> he said it
02:10 <ivantis> and im getting a G1 phone on wednesday!
02:13 <ivantis> &logs
02:13 <perlbot2> http://irclogs.space-lab.us
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05:06 <Pathetique> wa wa we wa
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14:37 <Ady-Lucifer> ;O
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16:47 <armabot> lpbugs: [306245] Text output errors - possibly spec mode related
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18:50 <K-Yo> #last --from=speed
18:50 <armabot> K-Yo: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 9543 messages.
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20:25 <Monkey_arma> Roll up, roll up, regular matches have begun!
20:25 <Monkey_arma> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Organised_Matches
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21:29 <sinewav> Help
21:30 <sinewav> It's about the wiki
21:30 <sinewav> `I want to edit it, and I need the value for "mystery field".
21:30 <K-Yo> red
21:30 <K-Yo> sinewav,
21:31 <sinewav> Oh I got it right then. I see I screwed something else up...hold
21:33 <sinewav> OK, back...K-yo?
21:33 <K-Yo> sinewav, ?
21:33 <sinewav> Yes?
21:33 <K-Yo> red
21:33 <K-Yo> is the value of the mistery field
21:33 <K-Yo> I think
21:33 <epsy> sinewav, do what it tells you to do, it's not that hard!
21:34 <Ady-Lucifer> sinewav, dont listen to tihm, hes daltonic
21:34 <sinewav> Oh thanks, I got it. I actually screwed something else up, wasn't the color. my bad
21:34 <K-Yo> hehe
21:34 <sinewav> thanks for help!
21:35 <K-Yo> no prob ;)
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21:41 <freako5> :)
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21:53 <K-Yo> freako5 is a noob
21:54 <K-Yo> freako5, saw ing me able to add aliases and send msgs etc ?
21:54 <K-Yo> oops
21:54 <K-Yo> that: <Monkey_arma> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Organised_Matches
21:54 <freako5> :) ?
21:54 <freako5> cant follow this :O
21:54 <K-Yo> ah yeah u saw
21:54 <K-Yo> nvm :P
21:54 <K-Yo> are u reading IRC on a mobile phone?
21:54 <freako5> nope
21:55 <freako5> my windows irc client is fucked, so im on mibbit
21:56 <epsy> (it's not an irc client, it's a windows irc client!)
21:56 <luke-jr> windozeluser
21:57 <freako5> (epsy i hate irc.. its the worst invention beside windows vista)
21:57  * K-Yo is proud to use windows vista
21:57 <K-Yo> LOL!
21:57 <sinewav> lol
21:58 <epsy> first, vista isn't an invention
21:58 <epsy> secondly, irc doesn't suck more than vista
21:59 <epsy> now perhaps your irc client sucks more than windows vista..
21:59 <freako5> proudly running windows 7  milestone 3
22:00 <epsy> proudly running software that is going to crush on me
22:00 <epsy> uhm, what?
22:02 <freako5> I can finally combine,, an NVIDIA gfx cart with an ATI on windoes!
22:02 <epsy> wait-windows can now run two screens? wow that's new
22:03 <epsy> even windows ME could do that
22:03 <freako5> epsy u dont understand what I mean...
22:03 <epsy> oh wait you're still talkig about shopping carts
22:04 <freako5> epsy. try to get an windows pc,, running with an ATI+nvida card
22:04 <epsy> yeah, windows is the first OS ever made to have a concept for handling carts
22:04 <freako5> better get ur own copy of windows 7, milestoone 3 ...
22:04 <epsy> I admit
22:04 <epsy> why would I want that?
22:05 <freako5> U can see how much better windows upgraded,,,
22:06 <epsy> ah, so they are upgrading better than last time, what's better in the upgrade?
22:06 <epsy> do you have two video cards running at the same time?
22:06 <epsy> heck, I barely have an integrated chipset
22:06 <freako5> hehe
22:07 <freako5> thats why i got 8000 fps on the alpha  in local game ;)
22:07 <freako5> low quality though
22:07 <epsy> 8000fps low quality does not need two video cards to be achieved..
22:08 <epsy> also it's fucking useless, because it will take more time to spew out unneccesary frames than to render them
22:08 <freako5> but its much cheaper to achieve it with to mid range* carts
22:08 <freako5> 2* instead of 2 high end
22:08 <freako5> c 1high end*
22:09 <epsy> on low quality, even software rendering may be able to attain this, but it's cropped to vsync rates, which is quite logical anyway
22:09 <freako5> Arma isnt the only game wich I play...
22:09 <epsy> so uhm, why do I need windows seven?
22:09 <freako5> so I need the fps to play at ultra high :)
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22:10 <freako5> black editions proccessors ftw also :)
22:10 <epsy> wtf are black edition processors?
22:11 <epsy> CPUs painted in black?
22:11 <freako5> Proccessors delivered without the overclock lock
22:11 <sinewav> a cool marketing term?
22:11 <epsy> oh so they can burn easier
22:11 <epsy> right, that wins
22:11 <freako5> not if u do it right.. and have money :)
22:11 <epsy> I really doubt I need to overclock a 3.0GHz processor
22:12 <SageLord> lol
22:12 <sinewav> haha
22:12  * freako5 is scared to tell epsy he has 8 gb ram\
22:12  * freako5 he will tell me its uneeded
22:13 <SageLord> you have 8 gb of ram?
22:13 <freako5> yup
22:13 <SageLord> what on earth do you use all that for
22:13 <SageLord> haha
22:13 <SageLord> what kind of games do you play
22:13 <epsy> holy shit what do you need 8Gb RAM for?
22:13  * sinewav bought his last motherboard and processor in 2001 :(
22:14 <freako5> uhm epsy..
22:14 <freako5> i dont say no to my parents giving me money to build an pc :)
22:14 <freako5> so id rather spend it,,,
22:14 <epsy> seriousely, I have so what 2Gb RAM and I often run firefox with a fucking bullshit lot of tabs, the GIMP, inkscape and on top of that arma..
22:14 <sinewav> I would have spent half the money on a PC, and the rest on getting laid
22:15 <epsy> what do I need 4× more RAM for?
22:15 <epsy> OH yeaaaah!
22:15 <epsy> for fucking windows SEVEN!
22:15 <freako5> i have triple boot...
22:15 <epsy> w00tzorz
22:15 <freako5> xp-vista-7
22:15 <epsy> I have boot to arch..and that's it
22:16 <freako5> ask ikono where u need 8 gb ram for
22:16 <freako5> he can explain it in detail :)
22:16 <epsy> do i need 4× more ram to do dual/triple-boot or whatever ? no
22:16 <epsy> and I used to do it
22:16 <freako5> Epsy... i dont need 8gb ram
22:17 <luke-jr> wtf epsy
22:17 <epsy> and if you dare to say dual booting requires more ram seriousely, you got no fucking idea of what you are talking about..
22:17 <freako5> but im not a person that says NO* to it if i can get it for free
22:17 <freako5> im not saying that
22:17 <luke-jr> unless his BIOS supports parallel OS
22:17 <sinewav> most STDs are free
22:17 <epsy> you're the person what's telling me I SHOULD get that
22:17 <freako5> that was a reply for ur dumb windows 7 ...
22:18 <freako5> I said , u hould try it once... to see that its better as the old windows
22:18 <epsy> well, considering windows 6, and 5.1 already eats a LOT of RAM..
22:18 <freako5> epsy ffs,  when u can get 8gb ram for free... u say no?
22:19 <SageLord> :)
22:19 <epsy> no
22:19 <epsy> are you offereing me 8Gb RAM for free?
22:19 <freako5> no... but my parents did it to me
22:19 <luke-jr> …
22:19 <luke-jr> spoiled brat
22:19 <K-Yo> freako5, I hope the rest of ur comp can follow them!
22:19 <K-Yo> :P
22:20 <epsy> so why are you telling me I should get this? duh..
22:20 <epsy> K-Yo, in fire?
22:20 <freako5> uhm... I just said
22:20 <K-Yo> in fire?
22:20 <K-Yo> what for?
22:20 <freako5> That u maybe, could try it once... so u maybe change your view on windows
22:21 <freako5> because 7 is a rly good upgraded system of vista
22:21 <epsy> K-Yo, rotting with the overclocked 4.0GHz processor
22:21 <PinkTomato> freako5: you run windows in 64-bit of course?
22:21 <freako5> yes,
22:22 <freako5> 32 bit doesnt accept more as 2gb i thought
22:22 <freako5> ram*
22:22 <K-Yo> epsy, yeah :P
22:22 <freako5> or 4 :/
22:22 <epsy> false assumption
22:22 <PinkTomato> Won't acept 3.5Gb +
22:22 <epsy> it entirely depends on motherboard/CPU
22:22 <freako5> no
22:22 <freako5> OS 2
22:23 <epsy> wtf is OS/2 doing in here now?
22:23 <sinewav> haha
22:23 <PinkTomato> lol
22:23 <epsy> OS too..
22:23 <epsy> jesus
22:23 <luke-jr> 64-bit kernel with 32-bit userland is probably best idea
22:23 <freako5> 32 bit XP doesnt accept ram to a certrain level
22:23 <epsy> that's because windows sucks
22:23 <freako5> 64 bit xp does
22:24 <epsy> and also because XP was made in 2002
22:24 <luke-jr> no
22:24 <epsy> and 8Gb RAM was not the kind of stuff that would sell in 2002
22:24 <luke-jr> it's because 64-bit pointers are 2x the size of 32-bit
22:24 <freako5> but we still get at the point... that I dont reject to offer of a good pc :)
22:25 <freako5> the*
22:25 <luke-jr> freako5: I demand a free 8 GB RAM PC too
22:25 <epsy> you don't? ah neat!
22:25 <epsy> me too
22:25 <SageLord> i want one too
22:25 <SageLord> :D
22:25 <freako5> hehe :)
22:25 <luke-jr> it's only fair, after all
22:25 <SageLord> or at least split your 8 GB with us
22:25  * luke-jr looks up freako5's address to send a bill for a new PC.
22:25 <SageLord> i'll take 1 and a half
22:25 <freako5> life isnt fair...
22:25 <freako5> :)
22:25 <epsy> luke-jr, hahahaha
22:26 <SageLord> my measly laptop only has 1 GB :/
22:26 <luke-jr> freako5: let's grab a gun and make it fair?
22:26 <epsy> luke-jr, get a lawyer to phone him
22:26 <PinkTomato> My laptop has 512 I think
22:26 <luke-jr> lol epsy
22:26 <luke-jr> my laptop has 2 GB
22:26 <luke-jr> :o
22:26 <luke-jr> sorry, typo
22:26 <luke-jr> 20 GB*
22:26 <epsy> 2Gb, or 8× more, can't remember
22:26 <freako5> hehe
22:26 <PinkTomato> lol :D
22:26 <luke-jr> oops
22:26 <luke-jr> another typo!
22:26 <luke-jr> 20 TB*
22:27 <luke-jr> and it folds up to fit in my pocket!
22:27 <epsy> luke-jr, omg only windows seven can handle that much RAM!
22:27 <epsy> oh wait
22:27 <sinewav> lol
22:27 <epsy> it's fucking windows mobiiiiile!
22:27 <luke-jr> no wai
22:27 <luke-jr> Gentoo
22:27 <epsy> yesterday, I saw MS advertising windows mobile
22:28 <luke-jr> got a Core2Octal at 1 THz :D
22:28 <epsy> did they ever advertise windows ?
22:28 <epsy> nobody would trust windows mobile lol..
22:28 <luke-jr> epsy: ever hear of Core2 Trio?
22:28 <epsy> and poor HTC is litterally failing
22:28 <PinkTomato> Would a mobile ever need more than 3GB ram?
22:28 <epsy> Trio? wtf?
22:28 <epsy> like 2^3 or reall 3?
22:28 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: nobody ever needs more than 64 KB!
22:28 <luke-jr> epsy: 3 cores
22:29 <luke-jr> epsy: Quad w/ 1 core disabled
22:29 <epsy> holy shit it's not symmetrical
22:29 <luke-jr> lol
22:29 <SageLord> lol
22:29 <epsy> we need to make round CPUs
22:29 <luke-jr> defective Quad, laser cutting off a core
22:29 <freako5> im scared to tell u wich proccesor i have lol
22:30 <luke-jr> freako5: if you don't say, your parents need to buy me the top of the line
22:30 <luke-jr> bleeding edge
22:30 <PinkTomato> lol luke-jr :D. true..
22:30 <luke-jr> BETA CPU
22:30 <luke-jr> with a microcode bugfix subscription <.<
22:30 <epsy> you're pretty much scared to tell us anything
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22:31 <luke-jr> wtf is .nl?
22:31 <Ratchet--> luke
22:31 <Ratchet--> luke
22:31 <Ratchet--> luke
22:31 <PinkTomato> neatherlands?
22:31 <luke-jr> epsy: ok, here's the plan
22:31 <luke-jr> I ain't here.
22:31 <Ratchet--> where on ubuntu do i access my configurations
22:31 <freako5> yup
22:31  * luke-jr drops.
22:32 <Ratchet--> PinkTomato:
22:32 <PinkTomato> Ratchet--: What configuration?
22:32 <Ratchet--> arma cfgs
22:32 <Ratchet--> like user.cfg
22:32 <luke-jr> Ratchet--: I DONT USE FSCKING UBUNTU
22:32 <luke-jr> RETARD
22:32 <Ratchet--> yes u do
22:32 <Ratchet--> dick licker
22:32 <Ratchet--> stfu
22:32 <luke-jr> liar
22:32 <luke-jr> Ratchet--: what's your phone number?
22:32 <freako5> i like ratchete hehe
22:32 <epsy> LOL!
22:32 <freako5> nicenice :)
22:32 <Ratchet--> 666-911-getalife
22:32 <luke-jr> wrong area code
22:32 <luke-jr> u lie
22:32 <Ratchet--> na
22:33 <Ratchet--> i live in hell
22:33 <Ratchet--> with your mom
22:33 <luke-jr> I bet it's 1-800-ped-ophile
22:33 <freako5> near luzifer?
22:33 <Ratchet--> yeah we share a room
22:33 <epsy> holy shit I may be choosing a phone op that lets me choose l33t phone numbers LOL
22:33 <luke-jr> GrandCentral?
22:33 <Ratchet--> epsy do you know how to find user.cfg on ubuntu? -.-
22:33 <epsy> guess not
22:33 <freako5> epsy why did u ask me i was connected to -»?
22:34 <epsy> Ratchet--, ~/.armagetronad/var/
22:34 <epsy> freako5, the website?
22:34 <luke-jr> Ratchet--: locate user.cfg
22:34 <Ratchet--> i tried that luke-jr
22:34 <freako5> why did u ask it? ur hunting me again?
22:34 <luke-jr> Ratchet--: find ~ -name user.cfg
22:34 <epsy> Ratchet--, note that ~ means your home dir and that files starting with . are hidden
22:34 <Ratchet--> k
22:35 <luke-jr> epsy: directories too!
22:35 <epsy> Ratchet--, in nautilus you can show them using ctrl+h, but you'd better press ctrl+l and type the address in
22:35 <epsy> luke-jr, filesystem entitites
22:35 <ivantis> hey!
22:35 <freako5> epsy knows my ip from his head hehe
22:35 <luke-jr> entitites?
22:35 <ivantis> ctrl+l in xchat does something cool
22:35 <epsy> 84.31 or something like this
22:35  * luke-jr prubs.
22:36 <epsy> or 84.131.
22:36 <luke-jr> epsy: that's part of it
22:36 <luke-jr> 86400 IN    PTR     cp601025-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl.
22:36 <epsy> one is freako, the other is Izual
22:36 <epsy> luke-jr, holy shit it's reverse
22:36 <epsy> :)
22:36 <luke-jr> yeah, DNS and IP go in different directions
22:36 -!- emmy_arma [n=peiaeman@pc232133.static.is.airbites.ro] has joined #armagetron
22:37 <epsy> yeah
22:37 <luke-jr> wtf is emmy_arma?
22:37 <epsy> quite ingenious
22:37  * freako5 secretly installs ancorfree software
22:37 <ivantis> wtf is luke-jr?
22:37 <luke-jr> ivantis die
22:37 <emmy_arma> oO
22:37 <SageLord> Oo
22:37 <emmy_arma> i'm a CT-er
22:37 <ivantis> 00
22:37 <freako5> sagelord wakes up again :)
22:37 <Ratchet--> epsy: no .armagetron in home :'[
22:37 <SageLord> :p
22:37 <SageLord> currently doing some apartment cleaning
22:37 <ivantis> .armagetronad isnt it
22:37 <epsy> erm yeah, it's armagetronad now
22:37 <SageLord> or rather, trying to avoid it while my roommates do it
22:38 <Ratchet--> i tried that
22:38 <Ratchet--> arma...ad
22:38 <ivantis> .armagetronad and .armagetronad-dedicated
22:38 <epsy> did you ever start armagetron?
22:38 <Ratchet--> argh
22:38 <Ratchet--> no
22:38 <Ratchet--> ROFL!
22:38 <Ratchet--> omg im dumb
22:38 <Ratchet--> thx
22:38 <Ratchet--> :p
22:38 <SageLord> lol
22:38 <luke-jr> ………
22:38 <epsy> well it's not created before armagetronad is run
22:38 <ivantis> its not like the installer would put the folder there
22:38 <ivantis> noob
22:38 <luke-jr> Ratchet--: well, at least you admit it
22:38 <Ratchet--> rofl
22:38 <Ratchet--> stfu
22:39 <luke-jr> #quote add [15:38:34] <Ratchet--> omg im dumb
22:39 <epsy> ivantis, first, there is no installer, secondly, don't say noob all the time
22:39 <armabot> luke-jr: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
22:39 <ivantis> yeah, admit it unlike some people
22:39 <luke-jr> ]quote add [15:38:34] <Ratchet--> omg im dumb
22:39 <ivantis> luke-jr in mind
22:39 <epsy> #echo I don't want your quote
22:39 <armabot> I don't want your quote
22:39 <luke-jr> ivantis: you really shouldn't talk about yourself that way
22:39 <SageLord> #kwote
22:39 <epsy> @q
22:39 <Ratchet--> #echo luke-jr can embrasse mon cul
22:39 <epsy> @quote random
22:39 <armabot> luke-jr can embrasse mon cul
22:39 <SageLord> that key on my keyboard doesn't work :p
22:39 <ivantis> #failure
22:39 <Ratchet--> !warning
22:40 <SageLord> its pretty lame
22:40 <epsy> teabot fucking rocks by the way
22:40 <epsy> SageLord, holy shit the other day I had something like this
22:40 <luke-jr> hum
22:40 <perlbot2> Okay just shut up! You are all bot-failures trying to use bots.
22:40 <luke-jr> ljrbot is maxed out on channels
22:40 <epsy> there was like an Xorg upgrade, with [big] changes regarding keyboard and mouse input
22:41 <epsy> half my keys stopped working right after the upgrade
22:41 <luke-jr> blame SageLord
22:41 <luke-jr> he made the patch
22:41 <freako5> lol the irc has never been so crwoded
22:41 <luke-jr> liar
22:41 <luke-jr> it was pretty crowded the other day
22:41 <luke-jr> when I was kicking people randomly from the ladle
22:41 <Ratchet--> er
22:42 <Ratchet--> now im having a graphics problem
22:42 <Ratchet--> -.-
22:42 <luke-jr> nVidia I bet
22:42 <Ratchet--> when i move the arma client
22:42 <Ratchet--> it's windowed
22:42 <Ratchet--> and the gfx slide off
22:42 <epsy> holy shit
22:42 <epsy> it's windowedz000rz!
22:42 <ivantis> &calc 360-52
22:42 <perlbot2> 308
22:42 <freako5> ah luke-jr :)
22:42 <Ratchet--> is it normal for the graphics to slide off
22:42 <luke-jr> Ratchet--: disable 3D acceleration
22:42 <Ratchet--> -.-
22:42 <freako5> do u know what it caused?
22:42 <epsy> Ratchet--, like, what?
22:42 <Ratchet--> i move the window
22:43 <Ratchet--> and the graphics stay put
22:43 <freako5> because people dont wat to rent random kicking servers :p
22:43 <Ratchet--> and just slide out the window
22:43 <luke-jr> freako5: it's ok, I was joking.
22:43 <epsy> Ratchet--, disable compiz/3d effects
22:43 <epsy> or whatever it's called
22:43  * Ratchet-- wishes i knew what was that
22:43 <ivantis> &calc 360-128
22:43 <perlbot2> 232
22:43 <epsy> Ratchet--, look in settings
22:43 <luke-jr> freako5: yeah, next time Durka asks to borrow it, imma tell him to make sure his config is sane and doesn't make my server look bad
22:43 <epsy> ivantis: go away with your bots
22:43 <ivantis> im doing homework
22:44 <epsy> do your additions elsewhere
22:44 <ivantis> - means subtraction
22:44 <ivantis> noob
22:44 <epsy> same thing as an addition, really
22:45 <ivantis> yes
22:45 <luke-jr> …
22:45 <ivantis> like adding a negative number
22:45 <freako5> luke :) i hope there is no next time :O
22:45 <ivantis> &calc 360+-128
22:45 <perlbot2> 232
22:45 <epsy> yes, that's it
22:45 <freako5> i like pnk-s more :0\
22:45 <ivantis> that is why multiplication/division arent natural operators
22:46 <ivantis> &calc 90+52
22:46 <perlbot2> 142
22:46 <epsy> well, you have two basic things, addition and multiplication
22:46 <Ratchet--> epsy: I don't see anything to do with graphics or compiz in system-pref
22:46 <Ratchet--> =;[
22:46 <epsy> all the rest is plainly based on this
22:46 <luke-jr> freako5: fail
22:46 <ivantis> &calc 360-90
22:46 <perlbot2> 270
22:46 <luke-jr> freako5: this is what I have learned: Durka borrows a server, and sets up a bad config
22:47 <Ratchet--> &calc 932848923-3849384398
22:47 <perlbot2> -2916535475
22:47 <luke-jr> = makes me look bad
22:47 <Ratchet--> :O
22:47 <epsy> @ping
22:47 <Ratchet--> &ping
22:47 <perlbot2> pong
22:47 <Ratchet--> rofl
22:47 <Ratchet--> &ping
22:47 <perlbot2> pong
22:47 <freako5> what was the bad config? wasnt some guy willing to pay u for it?
22:47 <epsy> yeah, it will always answer with pong
22:47 -!- teabot [i=xclan@fiji.dreamhost.com] has quit [Connection reset by peer]
22:47 <PinkTomato> Ratchet--: System -> Preferences -> Apperance
22:48 <epsy> except if it's a crappy supybot which needs to be killed all the time
22:48 <PinkTomato> Visual effects
22:48 <Ratchet--> None Normal Extra
22:48 <Ratchet--> which 1
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22:48 <epsy> none
22:49  * epsy sed "disable it"
22:49 <epsy> you may need to log out of your session of it to take effect
22:49 <Ratchet--> it worked
22:49 <freako5> luke-jr : what was the bad config? wasnt some guy willing to pay u for it?
22:49 <Ratchet--> but is my in game gfx guna be shitty?
22:49 <PinkTomato> http://forlong.blogage.de/entries/pages/Compiz-Switch << This comes in handy if you think compiz is a productive solution,.
22:50 <epsy> Ratchet--, 3D effects are just stupid effects for windows
22:50 <luke-jr> freako5: wtf?
22:50 <epsy> it's not the 3D drivers
22:50 <PinkTomato> Hehe, I had a feeling epsy would not like compiz ;)
22:50 <luke-jr> freako5: dunno, I didn't debug the conifg
22:50 <luke-jr> but it happened on someone else's server with the same config
22:50 <luke-jr> and my server works fine for everyone else
22:50 <PinkTomato> Ratchet--: This is purely what the visual efects on the windowing engine are
22:50 <epsy> PinkTomato, well, in almost all cases like this it's just compiz making crap
22:51 <freako5> dont tell me its shit uodate from last week?
22:51 <ivantis> &calc 29+29
22:51 <perlbot2> 58
22:51 <PinkTomato> that's true, compiz makes stuff go funny
22:51 <freako5> last weeks update is a killer for the old 0.3
22:51 <epsy> almost all games are messed up with it
22:51 <epsy> - even glxgears -
22:51 <freako5> lol
22:51 <luke-jr> ok
22:53 <freako5> mmmm,,, im off
22:54 <freako5> upgrading my pc hehe
22:54 <freako5> for free ... peehee!
22:54 <epsy> Quit: windows 7 ftww!!!!
22:54 <freako5> how u like 20 gb ram more? :P
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22:55 <PinkTomato> freako5: so whats yr processor?
22:55 <PinkTomato> I'm curious...
22:55 <epsy> it's a processor painted in black
22:55 <epsy> that's all we know
22:56 <freako5> a black edition epsy...
22:56 <PinkTomato> It's painted?
22:56 <luke-jr> http://i35.tinypic.com/2b6rsy.jpg
22:56 <epsy> PinkTomato, well wtf is a black edition if it's not in black?
22:56 <PinkTomato> wow, that little bit of paint mustjust be a commercial reason to charge an extra £50
22:57 <freako5> it has no overclock locl
22:57 <PinkTomato> Even though it's hidden behind a fan...
22:57 <PinkTomato> Oh!
22:57 <freako5> lock* and it slightly better as the original
22:57 <PinkTomato> I understand now
22:57 <epsy> who fucking needs to overclock their processors today LOL
22:57 <luke-jr> lol
22:57 <freako5> me ... so i can keep up with the ram
22:57 <freako5> ;)
22:57 <epsy> it's not overclocking the processor which will help you at RAM
22:58 <freako5> im just happy when my pc... is as fast as possible :)
22:58 <PinkTomato> Phenom?
22:58 <epsy> dude, overclocking has only disadvantages nowdays
22:59 <epsy> have fun with timer hiccups
22:59 <freako5> quad core phenom
22:59 <epsy> hickups*
22:59 <freako5> g2g ,, cya
22:59 -!- freako5 [i=541fbdee@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-652070561d3858d1] has quit ["http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client"]
22:59 <epsy> he got no idea of what he's doing..
23:00 <epsy> he's overclocking a fucking quadcore..
23:00 <epsy> like, WTF?
23:00 <PinkTomato> well... it is a black edition...
23:00 <PinkTomato> xD
23:00 <epsy> rofl..
23:01 <epsy> SageLord, good article btw
23:02 <epsy> SageLord: also, don't you want to show up as "SageLord" instead of "sagelord"? Oo
23:04 <K-Yo> SageLord, I enjoyed it too!
23:06 <teabot> SageLord: just writing so that there's a 4th message in row starting with your nick
23:06 <K-Yo> SageLord, and me the 5th!!
23:06 <K-Yo> wootage
23:06 <epsy> holy shit you broke it!
23:06 <K-Yo> damn it
23:07 <K-Yo> didn't pay attention
23:07  * K-Yo slaps K-Yo 
23:08 <SageLord> haha what?
23:08 <SageLord> the new article or the old one?
23:08 <epsy> latest
23:08 <SageLord> haha all right, cool :)
23:08 <SageLord> i've always wanted to put my thoughts on tron on paper, so this is really fun for me :P
23:10 <K-Yo> SageLord, I meant the ladle one, is there a new one?
23:10 <epsy> K-Yo, also, seriousely, wtf is the formatting you use on that organised matches rules? :S
23:10 <K-Yo> epsy, liza did not know about playfortress!
23:10 <K-Yo> epsy, feel free to change
23:10 <epsy> that one as well
23:10 <SageLord> yea i think a lot of people don't know about that
23:10 <epsy> she went off to sleep
23:10 <SageLord> i didn't know about it until a few days ago
23:11 <epsy> Hay used to use it a lot
23:11 <SageLord> yea i know
23:11 <K-Yo> epsy, I didn't know what to put
23:11 <epsy> K-Yo, doing so
23:11 <SageLord> she was very good at doing it
23:12 <epsy> K-Yo, 1/ don't put everything in one format, if you're putting a whole paragraph italic, there's something wrong
23:12 <SageLord> it was so frustrating attacking her when she did that, lol :P
23:12 <epsy> it along many other aspects of the "active defense"
23:12 <SageLord> mmhmm :)
23:13 <epsy> K-Yo, 2/ you are putting something that's in parenthesis in bold, do you want to de-emphasise it or to emphasise it?
23:13 <K-Yo> both!
23:13 <epsy> K-Yo, 3/ if you have to make a list of stuff..make a list!
23:14 <K-Yo> ok
23:14 <K-Yo> let's change
23:14 <PinkTomato> Quick question(hopefully) Can anyone spot anything obv. wrong here? "./configure --prefix=/etc/arma --disable-glout --enable-automakedefaults --disable-sysinstall --disable-etc --disable-useradd --disable-initscripts --enable-armathentication CXXFLAGS=-DMAXCLIENTS=32"
23:14 <epsy> K-Yo, done; feel free to re-sign your rules with --~~~~
23:15 <K-Yo> ah, ok
23:16 <ivantis> PinkTomato: i think its --enable-auth for the last part
23:16 <epsy> PinkTomato, branch?
23:17 <PinkTomato> bzr 0.2.8 r891? somewhere around there.
23:17 <PinkTomato> it compiles, but segmentation fault on load
23:17 <ivantis> probably not the configure
23:18 <epsy> PinkTomato, can you gdb attach it?
23:18 <PinkTomato> It's the same configure I used last time, I only added CXXFLAGS=-DMAXCLIENTS=32.
23:19 <PinkTomato> not sure what that is, quick google suggests that I'll need to be quick
23:19 <PinkTomato> I'm going to recompile without DMAXClients
23:19 <epsy> PinkTomato, gdb ./armagetronad
23:19 <epsy> type run
23:19 <epsy> then bt
23:19 <ivantis> gdb /path/to/binary and then enter its PID
23:20 <epsy> ivantis, well it already existed
23:20 <epsy> exited*
23:20 <ivantis> just start it and it dies?
23:20 <epsy> yes
23:20 <ivantis> laime
23:20 <epsy> I have my suspicions
23:20 <ivantis> does seg fault include a line?
23:21 <epsy> let him breathe
23:21 <epsy> because I want my backtrace
23:21 <PinkTomato> ok, just deb searching for gdb, random 404 on the ubuntu repositroy...
23:22 <epsy> huh?
23:22 <ivantis> gdb should come installed
23:22 <ivantis> ubuntu?
23:22 <PinkTomato> apt-get install gdb results in 404
23:22 <epsy> ask in #ubuntu
23:22 <ivantis> doesnt gdb come installed?
23:22 <ivantis> it did on mine
23:22 <epsy> probably not
23:23 <PinkTomato> This server default image didn't even have wget :)
23:23 <PinkTomato> no wait.
23:23 <PinkTomato> It was something basic like that :)
23:23 <epsy> forgot to fetch package lists?
23:24 <PinkTomato> epsy: your right :), working now :D
23:24 <epsy> it's my right!
23:25 <PinkTomato> ok, now to run gdb..
23:25 <K-Yo> for Organized matches, we could say who we want to play with
23:26 <epsy> that's just going to complicate it
23:26 <epsy> leave it simple for now
23:26 <epsy> PinkTomato, having trouble?
23:28 <PinkTomato> epsy: need to run gdb with --configdir.
23:28 <K-Yo> epsy, yeah, it's for the future
23:29 -!- MaZuffeR [n=mazuffer@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has quit ["Ex-Chat"]
23:29 <epsy> PinkTomato, gdb --args armagetron --yourargument blah blah
23:29 <epsy> K-Yo, remember that the future is big
23:32 <PinkTomato> http://rafb.net/p/j16WGY78.html
23:34 <PinkTomato> thats for epsy ^ btw :)
23:35 <epsy> strange..
23:36 -!- emmy_arma [n=peiaeman@pc232133.static.is.airbites.ro] has quit ["Leaving"]
23:36 <epsy> how come is it trying to disconnect a client, when it is in client mode itself..
23:36 <PinkTomato> you can get that from that?
23:36 <PinkTomato> xD
23:36 <epsy> #7  0x0815f4f7 in nServerInfo::TellMasterAboutMe ()
23:37 <epsy> when connecting to anything, arma enters into client mode
23:37 <epsy> so when connecting to masters, arma is in client mode
23:37 <epsy> #4  0x08152fbe in sn_DisconnectUserNoWarn ()
23:37 <epsy> now, how the hell is it trying to disconnect an user?
23:37 <epsy> ah
23:38 <epsy> it's switching netstate
23:38 <epsy> but well, you just started it, so there's no clients in, so why is it trying to kick them?
23:39 <PinkTomato> not sure :)
23:40 <epsy> anyway, I guess you should upgrade
23:41 <PinkTomato> It only errors with CXXFLAGS, a none CXXFLAGS ver works fine.
23:42 <epsy> ah, yeah, so it's related you your maxclient thing
23:42 <epsy> why are you even setting it?
23:42 <PinkTomato> yeah, It won't go higher than 16
23:43 <epsy> make distclean
23:43 <epsy> bzr up
23:44 <K-Yo> epsy, and long!
23:44 <epsy> and ./configure --enable-dedicated --enable-authentication (nothing more)
23:44 <epsy> then see if you reproduce it
23:44 <epsy> K-Yo, ?
23:44 <epsy> ah, indeed
23:44 <epsy> K-Yo, but it's bigger than what we have between now and that match
23:46 <PinkTomato> argh bzr fail. up to date revision 899...
23:47 <epsy> bzr pull
23:48 <K-Yo> epsy, maybe, maybe not, who knows...
23:49 <epsy> well, we have to work on that basis
23:49 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r8640 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/MacOS/rakefile.rb: Added a newline (testing...)
23:50 <K-Yo> true
23:50 <epsy> if we don't, we make shit
23:50 <epsy> basically
23:51 <epsy> PinkTomato, well, see if it does the same on latest .2.8, if it does, file a bug report
23:51 <epsy> good night
23:52 <PinkTomato> ok epsy, night :)
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23:58 <madmax> dlh: on 0.2.8 the file that generates the version number for the build (process_files.rb) only checks for a .svn dir, which doesn't happen on a bzr checkout. perhaps you want to fix it

Log from 2008-12-09:
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00:01 <dlh> madmax: yep, I'll fix it.
00:07 -!- TaZ_ [i=981ea130@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f19fee187071dd75] has joined #armagetron
00:07 <TaZ_> Hi
00:08 -!- K-Yo [n=K-Yo@unaffiliated/k-yo] has joined #armagetron
00:08 <K-Yo> #bzr
00:08 <armabot> bzr co lp:armagetronad (for trunk) bzr co lp:armagetronad/0.2.8 (for 0.2.8 trunk) (bzr >= 1.0)
00:08 <TaZ_> hey K-Yo
00:09 <madmax> whoa, funky stats for the CT vs Kod match :)
00:09 <K-Yo> oi _t
00:09 <K-Yo> madmax, :P
00:09 <TaZ_> NoT was mad at you guys
00:11 <TaZ_> Cause you guys were "cocky"
00:18 <K-Yo> cocky?
00:18 <K-Yo> how's that?
00:19 <TaZ_> K-Yo: I guess it might have been the way you guys were bragging while you were playing the match
00:19 <TaZ_> I didn't stay the whole match, but I did hear some uncalled for things
00:19 <K-Yo> bragging? means like showing off?
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00:20 <TaZ_> Like "We lost, we didn't get a perfect hundred score for the match."
00:20 <K-Yo> TaZ_, look that: http://crazy-tronners.com/screenshots/ladle17/screenshot_179.png
00:20 <K-Yo> TaZ_, we did that indeed
00:21 <K-Yo> I recognise it was not nice
00:21 <TaZ_> If you want to bring up screenshots, please bring up the whole logs.
00:21 <TaZ_> I remember apparition saying you guys were unreal.
00:24 <TaZ_> K-Yo: I mean, me personally, have nothing against CT.
00:25 <PinkTomato> It wasn't too bad
00:25 <K-Yo> TaZ_, I got them
00:25 <TaZ_> I think it just gave a bad rep to CT.
00:25 <TaZ_> You do?
00:25 <K-Yo> TaZ_, if there is a problem, I can use them
00:25 <K-Yo> but someone from NoT as to talk to us about that
00:26 <TaZ_> K-Yo: I was just bringing something up to your attention
00:26 <K-Yo> :)
00:26 <K-Yo> I have to admit that disturbed me during the match
00:26 <TaZ_> Yea, thats np, I'm pretty sure all of NoT have gotten over it by now. ;)
00:26 <K-Yo> anyway, I wasn't really focused, talking to 23 all the time
00:26 <K-Yo> :)
00:26 <TaZ_> got ya! ;)
00:26 <K-Yo> anyway, if they need someone to hate for that, I do'nt mind :P
00:27 <TaZ_> heh
00:27 <TaZ_> Pinktomato, why did you leave our team?
00:28 -!- G5 [n=G5@cl-506.dus-01.de.sixxs.net] has quit ["Over and out."]
00:28 <PinkTomato> ?
00:28 <PinkTomato> I was there
00:28 <PinkTomato> all the way through
00:28 <TaZ_> Were you on NoT?
00:28 <PinkTomato> yeap
00:28 <ivantis> …
00:28 <ivantis> NoT?
00:28 <ivantis> the clan?
00:28 <PinkTomato> I wasn't doing at all well
00:28 <TaZ_> ...ooo sry, hehe.
00:28 <PinkTomato> NoT was a collobration
00:28 <TaZ_> No ivantis.
00:29 <ivantis> NoT was also the clan that i started
00:29 <ivantis> Network of Tronners
00:29 <ivantis> it failed
00:29 <ivantis> terribly
00:29 <TaZ_> That noob clan?
00:29 <ivantis> yes
00:29 <TaZ_> That clan*
00:29  * ivantis started it
00:29 <PinkTomato> that's why you didn't see me, I spent most f the match at the bottom of the scoreboard :)
00:29 <TaZ_> PinkTomato: lol
00:30 <TaZ_> I was supposed to play pos.1, but I guess saibot changed it last minuet.
00:30 <TaZ_> ivantis: How's that freelancing going?
00:31 <ivantis> weird
00:31 <TaZ_> oo boy
00:31 <ivantis> i havent heard back from this guy in like 10 days
00:31 <ivantis> maybe he got hit by a bus
00:31 <TaZ_> Then what's his face was right
00:31 <ivantis> who?
00:31 <TaZ_> luke-jr was right
00:31 <TaZ_> He said the guy probably found another person to do the job once he found out your age.
00:31 <TaZ_> You're like 11.
00:32 <ivantis> he didnt found out my age
00:32 <ivantis> 14 noob
00:32 <TaZ_> ah
00:32 <TaZ_> lolz
00:32 <TaZ_> same thing
00:32 <ivantis> and he hasnt hired anyone
00:32 <ivantis> else
00:33 <PinkTomato> well you can't expect someone else to increase yr clan
00:33 <PinkTomato> i have never seen you play...
00:33 <TaZ_> ahaha
00:34 <K-Yo> well
00:34 <K-Yo> ttime to sleep
00:34 <K-Yo> gn everyone
00:34 <TaZ_> G'nite K-Yo
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00:35 <TaZ_> PinkTomato: I barely see you on either.
00:36 <TaZ_> In fact 78.5% of people on here don't play tron regularly.
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00:37 <PinkTomato> TaZ_: I play lots.
00:38 <TaZ_> Really?
00:38 <TaZ_> under another name?
00:38 <PinkTomato> nope
00:39 <PinkTomato> I usually play UK lunchtime
00:39 <TaZ_> ah
00:39 <PinkTomato> I don't play much recently
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00:50 <dlh> madmax: should work now
00:53 <madmax> k :)
00:54 <dlh> You'll need to delete macosx_build_information.yml to get the new version to generate
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00:58 <madmax> yeah, I eventually got it working some time ago. not quite sure what I did then though. so I thought I'd tell you
01:08 <zmanuel> Are the admins of the WIld West servers reachable?
01:09 <PinkTomato> I haven't seen Manta on IRC in a while, best bet would be forums
01:16 <TaZ_> zmanuel
01:16 <TaZ_> No
01:16 <TaZ_> Which server?
01:17 <zmanuel> Sumo was the one I tested
01:17 <zmanuel> It's affected by this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+bug/306245
01:17 <zmanuel> It sends untranslated strings to the clients sometimes and messes up the console rendering.
01:18 <zmanuel> I suspect an installation error, either by the admins or by the setup system.
01:18 <zmanuel> And I don't even know which version they're running precisely, the code branches have kind of multiplied recently :)
01:19 <PinkTomato> hmm I've seen it once actually
01:19 <TaZ_> ah
01:21 <TaZ_> zmanuel: I can get in contact with Codehunter. He is an admin at WW sumo.
01:24 <zmanuel> I need the person who did the installation, unfortunately.
01:24 <TaZ_> Oh, sorry I can't help you then.
01:24 <TaZ_> Manta has been away from a while, and Destiny is supposedly taking a break
01:24 <zmanuel> I'll just post on their forums. Boy, I hate registering on forums.
01:25 <TaZ_> same here
01:26 <zmanuel> Heh, they're using CatCha's :)
01:27 <TaZ_> Is that a good thing? ;)
01:29 <ivantis> &french
01:29 <perlbot2> J'ai un porc dans mon nez.
01:30 <zmanuel> TaZ_: It's cute :) A bit annoying, though.
01:30 <TaZ_> :)
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01:49 <ivantis> &spanish
01:49 <perlbot2> Tengo un puerco en la nariz.
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02:01 <Monkey_arma> that colour captcha on the wiki is really fucking people up
02:01 <Monkey_arma> lol
02:01 <TaZ_> zmanuel: Destiny just told Manta about it.
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02:02 <TaZ_> zmanuel: Dest says you should Have IM Manta, but he's heading on the channel now.
02:05 <Monkey_arma> TaZ_ you seen ID forums lately?
02:05 <TaZ_> Yes, cloaket has done it again.
02:06 <Monkey_arma> ye
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02:07 <Manta> z-man?
02:07 <TaZ_> They banned him though
02:09 <Monkey_arma> Manta its zmanuel
02:09 <Monkey_arma> (to highlight)
02:11 <Manta> is it only that server? I'm running that version across them all
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02:21 <ct|kyle> Manta: he said earlier that he only tried it in sumo
02:21 <Manta> ok
02:23 <ct|kyle> Manta: do you build it with CXXFLAGS=-DMAXCLIENTS=
02:26 <Manta> no, I did not find a list of flags so I'm just using the default dedicated server
02:27 <ct|kyle> ah it would be nice if you used that for the lade server, so it can support more than 16 clients
02:28 <Manta> ok cool, I had been hunting for how to do that
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02:30 <Manta> I'll enable that,
02:31 <ct|kyle> i useually set it to 32 when i compile (plenty of room if needed)
02:31 <ct|kyle> but you should get a list with ./configure --help
02:33 <Monkey_arma> kyle ./configure --help does NOT have those
02:33 <Monkey_arma> and I thought that max_clients was automatically higher than 16 in recent alphas no?
02:34 <Monkey_arma> ct|kyle
02:35 <ct|kyle> really i thought it was defaulted to 16
02:35 <Monkey_arma> im not sure that is why im asking. I know it is for old servers but I thought not for new.
02:36 <Monkey_arma> well default yes
02:36 <Monkey_arma> but i mean that you can actually increase the clients with max_clients
02:37 <Monkey_arma> ok confirmed ct|kyle and Manta
02:37 <ct|kyle> Monkey_arma: not if it is not compied with  the flag, look at pink's server for ladle
02:37 <Monkey_arma> depends on his version
02:38 <Monkey_arma> although he said he uses newish
02:38 <Monkey_arma> i will check
02:38 <ct|kyle> ok you can check :)
02:38 <Monkey_arma> common sense would tell me that it allows you to increase max_clients by default
02:38 <Monkey_arma> also
02:38 <ct|kyle> it would have changed in the last few months then
02:39 <Monkey_arma> to not allow max_clients to be altered by an admin by default is not just stupid its insane
02:39 <ct|kyle> i'll go check in tea
02:39 <Monkey_arma> it that is the case then its madness
02:39 <Monkey_arma> ye
02:40 <ct|kyle> ladle*
02:40 <ct|kyle> tea runs older version
02:40 <Monkey_arma> hmk
02:44 <ct|kyle> Monkey_arma: seams like it stops at 32
02:44 <Monkey_arma> 32 is a hell of a lot better than 16
02:44 <ct|kyle> i set it to 50 but changed back to 32 (what i set cxx flag for
02:44 <Monkey_arma> in fact, its enough for all of our current needs
02:44 <ct|kyle> 16 is default compiling
02:44 <ct|kyle> 32 is what i compiled it with
02:44 <Monkey_arma> how sure are you for new server versions?
02:45 <ct|kyle> THAT IS LATEST
02:45 <Monkey_arma> but how do you know that if you didnt put 32 it would be 16?
02:45 <ct|kyle> oops actually r899
02:45 <ct|kyle> let me compile a new one
02:45 <Monkey_arma> ye do that
02:45 <Monkey_arma> your logic is fail
02:55 <ct|kyle> Monkey_arma: well it says 150 but i don't think you can get more than 16 in it
02:55 <Monkey_arma> well try
02:56 <ct|kyle> bet 16 people to come it
02:56 <Monkey_arma> try changing it using /admin max_clients 32
02:56 <Monkey_arma> if it resets then you know
02:56 <ct|kyle> .si ess 1
02:56 <tronner> ct|kyle: Crazy Tronners Ladle Fortress 1: Players (1/150): ct¤ky13 (kyle@ct)
02:56 <ct|kyle> but we had it set to 24 dy default and it was at 16
02:57 <ct|kyle> Monkey_arma: just changed back to 16
02:57 <Monkey_arma> ?
02:57 <Monkey_arma> i dont understand you
02:58 <Monkey_arma> my point is that max_clients on some servers can not be changed at all, even using max_clients N
02:58 <Monkey_arma> well, over 16
02:59 <ct|kyle> Monkey_arma: you can change it but as soon as a new player comes in it defaults it back to 16
02:59 <Monkey_arma> righ
02:59 <Monkey_arma> lets test
03:01 <Monkey_arma> that is seriously, seriously stupid
03:01 <ct|kyle> Monkey_arma: go in and change it to 20
03:01 <Monkey_arma> i will
03:01 <ct|kyle> then i'll com in
03:01 <ct|kyle> let me know when
03:02 <Monkey_arma> fofo and psyko on!
03:02 <Monkey_arma> anyway sry back to test
03:02 <ct|kyle> it says 26 in the list right now
03:03 <ct|kyle> when you go in it will change to 16
03:03 <Monkey_arma> it did
03:03 <ct|kyle> so set it to 20
03:03 <Monkey_arma> k
03:03 <Monkey_arma> ok 20
03:03 <Monkey_arma> done
03:03 <ct|kyle> i saw
03:03 <ct|kyle> :P
03:04 <Monkey_arma> ok ct|kyle you are right
03:04 <Monkey_arma> i just cant believe this
03:04 <Monkey_arma> its crazy
03:04 <dlh> ?
03:04 <Monkey_arma> can there be any justification?
03:05 <ct|kyle> i think so the server knows how to allocate the players
03:05 <Monkey_arma> dlh you can not , by default, change max clients to more than 16 even on newest server versions.
03:05 <Monkey_arma> lol ct|kyle
03:05 <ct|kyle> [0] as server [16] being last player
03:06 <Monkey_arma> call me crazy but i can see no justification
03:06 <ct|kyle> I know that CXXFLAGS=-DMAXCLIENTS= is useful for when luke-jr builds a server
03:07 <ct|kyle> anyway CT ladle 1 gets an update :P
03:08 <ct|kyle> Monkey_arma: i;m going to kill it to restart it with the update
03:08 <Monkey_arma> ok
03:08 <Monkey_arma> update meaning...? you recompile it?
03:08 <dlh> I think the 16 client limit is a little low, but I don't think it is crazy to restrict the setting of max_clients to some bounds
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03:11 <ct|kyle> Monkey_arma: ya with 32 as max
03:12 <ct|kyle> and latest bzr now
03:12 <ct|kyle> it was 912
03:12 <Monkey_arma> dlh i mean the fact that 16 is too low
03:12 <Monkey_arma> common sense should tell us that ..fort has been around for a long time now.
03:13 <Monkey_arma> 32 should be the absolute minimum if there is a limit.
03:13 <dlh> yeah, I agree
03:13 <ct|kyle> ya but it was not that long ago that we had only 5 vs 5 matches
03:14 <Monkey_arma> i played 2 years ago in the ladle. it was 8v8
03:14 <Monkey_arma> ...
03:14 <ct|kyle> but not 100% of the time
03:15 <ct|kyle> oh in ladle
03:15 <ct|kyle> but everything but the ladle was usually less than 8vs 8
03:15 <Monkey_arma> so now the limit is 32 by default in newest versions?
03:15 <dlh> no, it is still 16
03:15 <Monkey_arma> jeez
03:16 <dlh> I think I will change it now 32...
03:16 <Monkey_arma> are you responsible for this dlh? :P
03:16 <ct|kyle> i think 24 would be a nice default though, we should not allocate more memory than we need
03:16 <Monkey_arma> ct|kyle !
03:16 <Monkey_arma> lmao
03:16 <Monkey_arma> do you know how much memory uses?
03:17 <ct|kyle> maybe in another year that will have to be bumped up
03:17 <ct|kyle> Monkey_arma: nope, probably not too much
03:17 <dlh> Monkey_arma: nope, that would be z-man :)
03:19 <Monkey_arma> #later tell z-man 16 maximum clients as default!! You are very naughty.
03:19 <armabot> Monkey_arma: The operation succeeded.
03:19 <dlh> I'll let it be z-man's decision whether or not raise the limit, but I will add a message to warn the the user when they set max_clients to a value greater than the max bound
03:19 <Monkey_arma> k
03:19 <Monkey_arma> i will post on the forums tomorrow
03:20 <ct|kyle> should add something in the wiki about it
03:20 <ct|kyle> along with the other flags we can use
03:20 <Monkey_arma> i think someone needs to add that to ./configure --help or w/e
03:20 <Monkey_arma> its kinda important
03:21 <ct|kyle> see wiki page for more info on flags
03:21 <ct|kyle> and have them listed there
03:21 <Monkey_arma> well something needs to be in ./configure --help
03:22 <ct|kyle> i agree with you there
03:22 <Monkey_arma> it is so important that an option would be nice
03:22 <Monkey_arma>  --max_clients or w/e
03:23 <ct|kyle>  ./configure  CXXFLAGS=-DMAXCLIENTS=
03:23 <ct|kyle> :P
03:23 <Monkey_arma>  thats a little less obvious
03:23 <Monkey_arma> but both
03:24 <Monkey_arma>  --enable-maxclients=
03:24 <Monkey_arma> and that
03:24 <Monkey_arma> or w/e
03:24 <ct|kyle> post a thread about it :P
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03:29 <Monkey_arma> i will dont worry...tomorrow
03:30 <ct|kyle> heh
03:30 <Monkey_arma> :P
03:40 <Paralyzed> my map: http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn195/catchmewiththemusic/loco.png
03:40 <Paralyzed> made with armabell
03:47 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: wtf?
03:48 <TaZ_> luke-jr: please go away
03:48 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: was not talking to you, just about you
03:48 <luke-jr> /kick TaZ_
03:48 <luke-jr> wtf does -DMAXCLIENTS have to do with me?
03:48 <TaZ_> lol
03:48 <ct|kyle> don't you use that for the servers you host?
03:48 <TaZ_> luke-jr, why are you so "cocky"
03:49 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: probably use a patch
03:50 <ct|kyle> oh
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13:04 <z-man-work> Would anyone here happen to be able to decipher and translate Arabic?
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16:30 <epsy> z-man-work, as for the maxclients issue, is there a reason we're not using a tArray or an std::set ?
16:31 <z-man-work> Yes, speed and memory fragmentation.
16:31 <z-man-work> Not very strong issues, I admit, but I wouldn't change things in 0.2.8.
16:31 <z-man-work> If there's a change, it should be done right, and just replacing the static with a dynamic array is not right :)
16:32 <epsy> yeah, that's definitely not for .2.8, but putting limits like this isn't what we want for the future
16:32 <z-man-work> True.
16:32 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8646 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/network/nNetwork.cpp src/tools/tConfiguration.h): Daniel Lee Harple: use const
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17:13 <TaZ> hello
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17:37 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8648 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. .bzrignore): Daniel Lee Harple: More files to ignore
17:41 <TaZ> ivantis
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18:08 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r943 More files to ignore... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r942 Fixed touch typo... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r646 Adding the following Shooting deaths; DEATH_SHOT_FRAG, DEATH...
18:15 <epsy> gah, wtf happened to trunk?
18:16 <K-Yo> boom
18:16 <epsy> guess ill just uncommit that merge >.<
18:21 <TaZ> ...
18:21 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8649 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
18:21 <armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
18:21 <armabot> armagetronad: Reduced per-netobject/per-client memory cost.
18:21 <armabot> armagetronad: Upped dedicated server client limit to 32.
18:21 <armabot> armagetronad: Added --with-maxclients configure argument.
18:26 <epsy> hello TaZ
18:27 <TaZ> hi epsy
18:27 <epsy> what's wrong?
18:27 <TaZ> lol nothing.
18:27 <epsy> [18:20] <TaZ>: ...
18:27 <epsy> Oo?
18:28 <TaZ> I just do that sometimes cause I'm bored
18:28 <TaZ> ...
18:28 <epsy> thanks for letting me know
18:28 <TaZ> :P
18:28 <epsy> :D
18:29 <TaZ> Did you ever play Multiwinia?
18:30 <TaZ> I heard Z-man helped with it
18:30 <epsy> nope, I did not
18:30 <TaZ> And it looks armagetronish
18:30 <epsy> but z-man-work indeed sounds like he's involved with it in some way, heh
18:31 <TaZ> haha
18:31 <z-man-work> I wrote a dedicated server for it.
18:31 <TaZ> ah
18:31 <z-man-work> Or rather, adapted the dedicated server I wrote for their previous game.
18:31 <TaZ> Darwinina?
18:31 <z-man-work> Defcon.
18:31 <TaZ> o
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19:09 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r944 Reduced per-netobject/per-client memory cost....
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19:46 <TaZ> hey sinewav
19:46 <sinewav> sup bro
19:47 <TaZ> nadda nadda, you?
19:58 <TaZ> Im glad you and ari made up
19:58 <TaZ> :)
19:58 <TaZ> I didn't want 2 respected people on tron arguing
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20:01 <teabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-eevent] r707 set eEventContexts asap... || [trunk-armagetronad-eevent] r706 whoops, the client didn't send it's ID properly...
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20:07 <TaZ> This is what happens when you only have 1 contact in your eye :/
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20:14 <epsy> it was a netsplit..not teabot messing up, ah neat
20:17 <iccleoldme> i want to be babybug =(
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20:18 <epsy> hihi
20:18 <iccleoldme> ty
20:18 <TaZ>                                                                                                           Babybuh_arma
20:18 -!- iccleoldme is now known as BabyBug
20:18 <BabyBug> :D
20:18 <TaZ> wbwb
20:18 <epsy> BabyBug, did teabot spew out some commits meanwhile?
20:18  * BabyBug shrugs
20:19 <epsy> :D
20:20 <epsy> no, like, srsly?
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20:24 <K-Yo> epsy, no, you missed nothing
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20:35  * BabyBug cuddles epsy 
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20:46 <wrtlprnft> meh. can anyone try to ping me?
20:46 <wrtlprnft> can't open new connections, and IRC is the only open one i've got right now
20:46 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: your mirror is broken
20:46 <akira_arma> kinda high latency
20:46 <wrtlprnft> bad luck
20:46 <akira_arma> 2 secs
20:46 <wrtlprnft> but you can reach me?
20:47 <akira_arma> yes
20:47 <luke-jr> 200 ms here
20:47 <luke-jr> note pings are in the kernel, and likely to work even if you PANIC
20:47 <wrtlprnft> great.
20:47 <wrtlprnft> i don't think this is the fault of a box of mine
20:47 <luke-jr> could it be your router?
20:48 <wrtlprnft> nah. traceroute hangs at the 4th hop
20:48 <luke-jr> do you have IPv6?
20:48 <wrtlprnft> no
20:48 <wrtlprnft> some box that belongs to my ISP
20:48 <luke-jr> ping
20:48 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: I can connect to SSHd
20:49 <luke-jr> and get prompted for a password
20:49 <wrtlprnft> that works, interestingly
20:49 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: ping
20:49 <wrtlprnft> who or what is
20:49 <luke-jr> BGP-nearest IPv6 router
20:49 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: nah, that doesn't
20:49 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: try this:
20:49 <wrtlprnft> neither does, which is the only IP i can remember that doesn't belong to me
20:50 <luke-jr> ipv4='your ipv4 address'
20:50 <wrtlprnft> (DNS works, though, with my provider's settings)
20:50 <luke-jr> ip tunnel add tun6to4 mode sit ttl 64 remote any local $ipv4
20:50 <luke-jr> ip link set dev tun6to4 up
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20:51 <luke-jr> ipv6prefix='2002:53f3:7531'
20:51 <luke-jr> ip -6 addr add ${ipv6prefix}::1/16 dev tun6to4
20:51 <wrtlprnft> err, should echo $ipv4 yield my NAT'd IP address or my provider-given?
20:51 <luke-jr> global scope
20:51 <luke-jr> and make sure you have DMZ on the NAPT box
20:51 <luke-jr> ip -6 route add 2000::/3 via ::
20:52 <wrtlprnft> err, i'm not gonna DMZ this box
20:52 <luke-jr> might not work otherwise, dunno
20:53 <luke-jr> can you forward by IP protocol?
20:53 <luke-jr> proto 41
20:53 <wrtlprnft> possibly
20:55 <wrtlprnft> but i don't see how all of this is gonna help me… I don't even understand how you can initiate a connection to my sshd (and its reply packets find you), but not the other way round
20:55 <wrtlprnft> my router's OS accepts custom iptables commands, but I don't know what that's gonna mess up
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21:20 <K-Yo> .pos 1
21:20 <tronner> K-Yo: CTWF position for ctxwoned: 1 with 43.03626543 points.
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21:33 <epsy> .pos 1337
21:33 <tronner> epsy: There's no rank 1337 in CTWF ladder.
21:33 <epsy> first to be 1337 wins!
21:34 <epsy> .help pos
21:34 <tronner> epsy: (pos <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch [concat http://crazy-tronners.com/p4/ct2irc.php?laddername= [urlquote $*]]".
21:34 <epsy> .pos ctxwoned
21:34 <tronner> epsy: CTWF position for ctxwoned: 1 with 43.03626543 points.
21:35 <epsy> .pos epsy|x|
21:35 <tronner> epsy: Cannot find epsy|x| in CTWF ladder.
21:35 <epsy> .pos epsy
21:35 <tronner> epsy: Cannot find epsy in CTWF ladder.
21:35 <epsy> .pos |x|epsy
21:35 <tronner> epsy: Cannot find |x|epsy in CTWF ladder.
21:35 <BabyBug> .pos BabyBug
21:35 <tronner> BabyBug: CTWF position for babybug: 38 with 5.50247655 points.
21:35 <epsy> spectators had never won :(
21:35 <BabyBug> \o/
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21:37 <epsy> holy shit eEvents are awesome ^^
21:38 <BabyBug> and they are? O.o
21:38 <epsy> nah, just starting to get the bases working :D
21:39 <BabyBug> so they're meant to be?
21:39 <epsy> you're like just typing HELLO_WORLD in the server's console to see a "Got event hello_world :)" at the client's log ^^
21:40 <epsy> (it works the other way as well!)
21:41 <epsy> so yeah now I've got to write a bunch of code
21:51  * BabyBug nods as if she got that and then walks away \o
21:52 <epsy> you know what's the server console right? :o
21:53 <BabyBug> THe thingy after you run the server? that console?
21:53 <epsy> yeah!
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22:19 <epsy> yeah
22:19 <SageLord> lol
22:19 <epsy> all day it's been splittin
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22:23 <BabyBug> ...
22:23 <SageLord> lol
22:24 <SageLord> thats not good :/
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22:27 <BabyBug> damn it he's back =(
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22:53 <P4> .cters
22:53 <tronner> P4: This data is 3 seconds old: Nothing found.
22:54 <P4> oO
22:55 <BabyBug> fail
22:55 <epsy> damn it she's back
22:55 <P4> what's wrong with the list?
22:55 <P4> .sumo
22:55 <tronner> P4: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “crazy tronners open sumo” at the moment, sorry.
22:55 <P4> it's up and players play, lol
22:56 <epsy> .armaservers
22:56 <tronner> epsy: This data is 7 seconds old; Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (9/12), |FA| BLACK TAR (7/16), Wild West  =Sumo= (7/14), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (5/10), The ~:VcL:~ Clan Server! (5/14), Adventures of TRON >>> AI Challenge  <<< (3/4), Swampland Mud Puddle (3/8), Unnamed Server (2/16), |FA| Devils Rings! (2/16), Wild West  =Cockpit=  ~Multi~Mode~ (1/16)
22:56 <epsy> @sd crazy
22:57 <teabot> epsy: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “crazy” at the moment, sorry.
22:57 <epsy> Crazy Tronners were eradicted by their collapsing zone.
22:57 <P4> .ys
22:57 <tronner> P4: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “yellow submarine” at the moment, sorry.
22:58 <epsy> @sd other submarine
22:58 <teabot> epsy: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “other submarine” at the moment, sorry.
22:58 <P4> problems with master server?
22:58 <epsy> well, if you see them in your server browser ingame, no it's not a problem with masers
22:58 <epsy> masters*
23:00 <P4> maybe master servers are in desynch mode :þ
23:00 <P4> i haven't check the game browser but server screen
23:01 <BabyBug> The information is out of date, and pokemon dudes clocks are wrong...Simple =D
23:01 <P4> This data is 3 seconds old
23:02 <epsy> This data is 47 seconds old
23:05 <P4> .servtest beta.armagetronad.net 80
23:05 <tronner> P4: Server at beta.armagetronad.net:80 is up.
23:23 <P4> .cters
23:23 <tronner> P4: This data is 39 seconds old: CT_emmy@Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (7/12)
23:23 <P4> fixed
23:23 <P4> #ls emmy
23:23 <P4> .l emmy
23:23 <tronner> P4: CT_emmy seems to be on Crazy Tronners Open Sumo right now.
23:23 <P4> .ls emmy
23:23 <tronner> P4: CT_emmy has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Open Sumo 23 hours 18 minutes ago.
23:24 <P4> :þ
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23:41 <apparition> anyone know how to type the old twisted rats clan tag in windows alt+###?
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23:44 <Ratchet--> !help armagetronad ubuntu
23:44 <Ratchet--> !!
23:45 <Ratchet--> epsy, ivantis luke-jr Lucifer
23:45 <Ratchet--> someone
23:45  * dlh *
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23:46 <Ratchet--> do you play on ubuntu?
23:47 <luke-jr> no
23:47 <luke-jr> for the 150th time
23:50 <ct|kyle> #ubuntu
23:50 <luke-jr> yeah, go to #Ubuntu and say the magic words
23:50 <luke-jr> to get a free KLINE
23:51 <ct|kyle> magic words being DCC_SEND UBUNTU_FIREWORKS
23:52 <ct|kyle> right hoax :)
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23:53 <luke-jr> err no
23:53 <luke-jr> slight, but important, difference
23:53 <luke-jr> SEND*
23:53 <luke-jr> (no underscore for DCC SEND)
23:55 <ct|kyle> oi sinewav
23:56 <sinewav> Hey Kyle, I'm thinking about killing the Advanced Racing server, what are your thoughts?
23:57 <luke-jr> :o
23:58 <sinewav> Oh, and hey everyone. I hate my IRC client (trillian) and want a new one. Anything easy to use with a minimal GUI?
23:58 <luke-jr> I like Konversation.
23:58 <luke-jr> and Psi for IM.
23:58 <luke-jr> sinewav: economy hitting you too? :x
23:58 <sinewav> I'm in win WP BTW...
23:59 <sinewav> akira_armaand no it's not the economy yet
23:59 <sinewav> oops
23:59 <sinewav>  no it's not the economy yet
23:59 <sinewav> It's just an unpopular server and I'd like to bring back flag fortress
23:59 <luke-jr> well, I don't think Windows has any good IRC clients
23:59 <sinewav> :-(

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00:00 <sinewav> @ windows
00:00 <luke-jr> Konversation 4 should support Windows, but that seems like a ways off
00:00 <luke-jr> s/4/whatever's next
00:00 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: you can install it on windows i think (let me go see :P)
00:00 <sinewav> I'll be switching OS as soon as they stop making software for XP
00:01 <luke-jr> sinewav: XP has no useful software :D
00:01 <ct|kyle> switch before then, get used to linux
00:01 <sinewav> haha, yeah I sould, but it's hard to leave something comfortable. I don't hate it enough yet
00:02 <ct|kyle> but i use pidgin
00:02 <luke-jr> I switched completely when XP came out
00:02 <ct|kyle> get vista :P
00:02 <luke-jr> I think I used XP like a week
00:02 <luke-jr> then wiped it
00:02 <ct|kyle> i used vista for a month, they never went back
00:02 <luke-jr> last Windoze I really used was Win2k
00:03 <sinewav> The only reason I have XP was because I was working on some video project and needed the NTFS to complete the project
00:03 <ct|kyle> they really fucked it up between RC1 and RC2
00:03 <luke-jr> sinewav: Linux has full NTFS support now
00:03 <sinewav> Awesome
00:04  * sinewav is downloading pidgin...
00:04 <ct|kyle> heh my XP copy is fucked up
00:04 <luke-jr> pidgin sucks
00:04 <sinewav> Hey Kyle, I'm thinking about killing the Advanced Racing server, what are your thoughts?
00:05 <ct|kyle> i don't care, up to you, i can always clone it :P
00:05 <sinewav> like: I'll find that out soon enough...
00:05 <luke-jr> hey
00:05 <sinewav> hey
00:05 <luke-jr> sinewav: what would you think if I offered an alternate hosting plan
00:05 <luke-jr> like $5/mo with unlimited slots and servers
00:06 <sinewav> alternate me baby!
00:06 <luke-jr> but charged for bandwidth
00:06 <luke-jr> I suspect people wouldn't like it cuz the cost changes
00:06 <luke-jr> but i could leave the usual flat fee ones too
00:06 <sinewav> I'd have to check my stats. can you send me my montly usage?
00:06 <luke-jr> hah
00:06 <luke-jr> I have no measurement per server now
00:06 <luke-jr> :þ
00:07 <luke-jr> I can hackishly have iptables measure your user's upload I htink
00:07 <sinewav> well, it's hard to make an informed decision that way! I'm interested though
00:07 <luke-jr> :þ
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00:07 <luke-jr> I suppose I could make it pre-pay too
00:07 <luke-jr> and if you run out of funds, your server gets disabled
00:07 <luke-jr> until you add more
00:08 <luke-jr> that would work good for donation-funded servers I think :o
00:08 <sinewav> proly
00:08 <luke-jr> u r djv?
00:08 <sinewav> yes
00:08 <sinewav> djvision
00:09 <luke-jr> ok, added an iptables counter
00:09 <luke-jr> 3.4 KB so far
00:09 <luke-jr> :þ
00:10 <luke-jr> I wonder if I can get rid of the flat fee altogether
00:11 <luke-jr> or rather, have a 100% bandwidth-based plan
00:11 <luke-jr> (disk space isn't usually an issue)
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00:12 <luke-jr> heh, that particular machine is using 400 KB/sec upload constantly
00:12 <sinewav> Wow
00:13 <luke-jr> sinewav: you just hit 40 KB
00:13 <sinewav> I like the stable price factor, helps me budget better.
00:13 <sinewav> `haha
00:13 <sinewav> `ok then
00:13 <luke-jr> ☺
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00:15 <sinewav> luke: I'm thinking I might kill the racing server and replace it with a fortress-like server I had there before. I'll send you an email with the details.
00:16 <sinewav> Or maybe just add another?
00:16 <sinewav> mayber fewer slots on the race server?
00:16 <sinewav> `I dunno
00:16 <fonkay> Lucifer: I still consider myself dropped out.
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00:33 <Ratchet--> no no
00:33 <Ratchet--> i need help with tron on ubuntu
00:33 <Ratchet--> not ubuntu problems
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01:05 <luke-jr> sinewav connection issues?
01:05 <luke-jr> hm, interesting
01:05 <sinewav2> Heh, Pidgin. Yeah, kinda lame
01:05 <sinewav2> I'll have to try something else
01:05 <luke-jr> on this particular machine, there are 2 users that each have used more bandwidth than all the other users combined :o
01:06 <luke-jr> sinewav is one :þ
01:06 <P4> .xers
01:06 <tronner> This data is 48 seconds old: |x| FoFo@Fortress Café - Ct's  Clone (4/32)  This data is 48 seconds old: ¦×¦ Black_ha@Fortress Café - Ct's  Clone (4/32)
01:06 <luke-jr> but you have 3 servers, so that's understandable
01:06  * P4 ment good night
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01:07 <luke-jr> VCL clan is using even more than sinewav, and they only have 1 server :O
01:07 <sinewav3> wow
01:08 <ct|kyle> o0 4 sinewav's here
01:08 <sinewav3> wtf is with the gay pidgin program...grrr
01:08 <ct|kyle> it is on MS nothing works there
01:08 <luke-jr> lol
01:08 <ct|kyle> I put KDE on it and now MS sent me a virus
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01:09 <luke-jr> hm
01:10  * luke-jr ponders a package with only bandwidth fees, and the first 5 MB free or something.
01:10 <luke-jr> Bet I'd finally need to automate new accounts :/
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01:10 <luke-jr> and then I'd have to worry about throwaway accounts :/
01:11 <luke-jr> maybe just a setup fee to avoid scammers
01:11 <ct|kyle> 5MB is quite a bit, i think that is all CTWF takes in a month
01:11 <luke-jr> ok, maybe not 5 MB then XD
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01:12 <ct|kyle> sinewav* having fun :P
01:12 <luke-jr> in 1 hour, the average seems to be about 150 KB
01:12 <luke-jr> sinewav is 3.5 MB
01:12 <luke-jr> VCL clan is 5.2 MB
01:12  * luke-jr wonders how the heck VCL clan is eating so much bw
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01:12 <luke-jr> …
01:12 <sinewav5> omg i'm on wireless and everytime I drop signal it logs on again
01:12 <ct|kyle> lol
01:12 <sinewav5> `fuck this pidgin
01:13 <sinewav5> `grr
01:13 <luke-jr> sinewav5: err yeah, that's Windowsw
01:13 <sinewav5> bye
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01:13 <ct|kyle> heh, i only drop my lan once a day :P
01:14 <luke-jr> ok
01:14 <luke-jr> MAJOR wtf here
01:14 <luke-jr> vclclan's server is EMPTY
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01:14 <luke-jr> and has been all day?
01:16 <ct|kyle> heh
01:16 <ct|kyle> they are using it for p2p downloading
01:16 <luke-jr> impossible
01:16 <luke-jr> :/
01:16 <ct|kyle> file sharing site
01:16 <luke-jr> they don't have a site hosted
01:16 <luke-jr> and the webserver isn't being counted
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01:16 <ct|kyle> oh
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01:21 <ct|kyle> .si >> Advanced racing
01:21 <tronner> ct|kyle: Adventures of TRON >> Advanced Racing <<: Players (5/9): spark!, VMK Sammypup, WatchMeGo, ^ICP^ Blaze, ^ICP^ Br3l3n
01:21 <ct|kyle> and it never gets used :P
01:22 <luke-jr> lol
01:22 <luke-jr> oh
01:22 <luke-jr> the 150 KB/hr
01:22 <luke-jr> is an empty server
01:22 <luke-jr> no clue why vclclan is using so much tho
01:22 <luke-jr> :/
01:23 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: uh
01:23 <luke-jr> no way CTWF only uses 5 MB /mo
01:23 <luke-jr> based on the current statistics
01:23 <luke-jr> an empty server uses 105 MB/mo just answering server list polls
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01:24 <luke-jr> in the case of sinewav's servers, he used up 5 MB in about 30 minutes
01:24 <luke-jr> XD
01:25 <ct|kyle> 5GB maybe :P
01:26 <luke-jr> yeah
01:26 <luke-jr> probably
01:27 <luke-jr> sinewav's avg looks like ~7.2 GB/mo atm
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01:27 <luke-jr> but it's not night yet
01:27 <luke-jr> so it will probably be less
01:27 <luke-jr> sinewav: I'm considering a penny per MB
01:27 <luke-jr> :þ
01:27 <sinewav> haha
01:28 <luke-jr> sinewav: the past hour, you used 10 MB
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01:28  * luke-jr ponders a sliding scale
01:28 <sinewav> Ok, let's figure this out. My billing cycle starts tomorrow.
01:28 <luke-jr> lol
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01:30 <sinewav> thank god stupid sinewav4 left. what a prick
01:30 <ct|kyle> heh
01:31 <luke-jr> sinewav: I think I'll probably need at least a month's measurement before I commit
01:31 <sinewav> sure, we'll work it out later.
01:33 <luke-jr> my current draft plan would put you at $93/mo if your server continues at the same rate as the past hour
01:33 <luke-jr> I suspect night will reduce that quite a bit
01:33 <luke-jr> current idea:
01:33 <sinewav> yikes!
01:33 <luke-jr> $10 setup charge
01:33 <luke-jr> 100 MB/mo included
01:33 <luke-jr> Up to 1 GB, 2 cents/MB (total 1 GB costs $18)
01:34 <luke-jr> Up to 5 GB, 1 cent/MB (total 5 GB costs $58.96)
01:34 <luke-jr> Beyond that, 2 MB/penny (total 8 GB costs $92.32)
01:35 <luke-jr> hmm
01:35 <luke-jr> I think my maths are off
01:35 <sinewav> I can't believe I use that much bandwidth, wow. my games are far from popular. 8-.
01:35 <luke-jr> :o
01:36 <luke-jr> 100 MB/mo included because that's what an empty server seems to use ☺
01:37 <PinkTomato> My servers use 25GB month...
01:38 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, doing what...?
01:38 <PinkTomato> armagetronad.
01:38 <BabyBug> 25 gig...
01:38 <luke-jr> lol
01:38 <luke-jr> really?
01:38 <ct|kyle> so if i wanted to host CTWF on you server it would be a lot cheaper just to buy a 20 slot server
01:38 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: how much bw does CTWF do?
01:38 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, you sure about that? =P
01:38 <luke-jr> like I said, my current draft is based on 1 hour of statistic
01:38 <luke-jr> during the day
01:38 <ct|kyle> 5-8 GB probably
01:39 <luke-jr> hm
01:39 <PinkTomato> Hmm. It does sound a lot :D
01:39 <ct|kyle> our web server uses around 25 a month that is CTWF and website
01:39 <ct|kyle> 25 GB
01:39 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: with my draft, 25 GB is $161.36 :þ
01:40 <PinkTomato> Lol, I pay $10 for 300GB
01:40 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: web hosting is easily cheaper
01:40 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: :O
01:40 <luke-jr> I thought you used 25 GB
01:40 <PinkTomato> I do, but the package is for 300GB
01:40 <luke-jr> keep in mind that I am factoring in CPU time to the cost :þ
01:41 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: you really think you can use 300 GB with Arma on that machine?
01:41 <PinkTomato> Not with just armagetronad,
01:41 <luke-jr> I'm only pricing armagetronad atm.
01:41 <luke-jr> :þ
01:42 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, who's your VPS with?
01:42 <PinkTomato> armagetronad is quite thirsty. BabyBug: cheapvps
01:42 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: what are you using to monitor the bandwidth :P
01:42 <luke-jr> iptables
01:42 <luke-jr> aka netfilter
01:43 <ct|kyle> google told me that :P
01:43 <luke-jr> …
01:43 <luke-jr> sinewav's gone up to 28 MB
01:43 <luke-jr> I think we're about 1.5 hrs now
01:43 <sinewav> shit
01:43 <luke-jr> I should be calculating slots into this :/
01:44 <PinkTomato> well each slot is 8bits
01:44 <PinkTomato> max
01:44 <PinkTomato> I think.
01:44 <luke-jr> sinewav: remember, a draft is only a draft
01:44 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: you're nuts
01:44 <luke-jr> 8 bits?
01:44 <luke-jr> that's 1 byte
01:44 <PinkTomato> lol I missed the K xD
01:44 <luke-jr> 8 KB maybe
01:44 <luke-jr> per second
01:44 <ct|kyle> it goes up exponetually with each new slot
01:44 <PinkTomato> ah of course.
01:45 <luke-jr> unfortunately, all this complex per MB stuff will require coding
01:45 <luke-jr> and won't be worth using unless it drastically increases my customer base
01:45 <PinkTomato> the community needs to be bigger
01:46 <PinkTomato> but not as big with too many people trying with their own product
01:46 <ct|kyle> 8 slots 128 kbps,  16 slots 256 kbps
01:46 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: that's not exponential
01:47 <ct|kyle> ya
01:47 <ct|kyle> x^2
01:47 <ct|kyle> x being slots
01:47 <sinewav> lol
01:47 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: I agree, growing Arma is needed for me to make any $
01:47 <luke-jr> and since I am afaik the only one with potential to make $ off such growth, I should really work on it
01:48 <PinkTomato> working it out will be complicated.
01:48 <PinkTomato> so many variables
01:48 <luke-jr> I was thinking about advertising the game on bux.to once
01:48 <luke-jr> but chances are people there are going to be freeloaders?
01:48 <PinkTomato> I think all we need to do is let disney advertise tron 2.0
01:48 <luke-jr> which means they *might* increase the community, but probably won't byu hosting
01:49 <luke-jr> why?
01:49 <luke-jr> when?
01:49 <PinkTomato> because tron game results in 10th google result
01:49 <ct|kyle> hosting comes a year or so after playing
01:49 <PinkTomato> and that search term might increase with a new film out
01:49 <ct|kyle> they may start paying you to hack it more like tr2n
01:50 <luke-jr> tr2n?
01:51 <sinewav> 0_0
01:51 <BabyBug> Tur Toon =)
01:51 <luke-jr> guru3: get us higher on the 'tron game' google results
01:51  * ct|kyle just put armagetron at top of google for tron game
01:51 <luke-jr> we're not on the first page :/
01:51 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: that would only work when the movie/game comes out
01:52 <PinkTomato> why is it low?
01:52 <ct|kyle> guru3: add tr2n to keywords also
01:52 <BabyBug> Add game in the website title \o/
01:52 <PinkTomato> fltron flash game 2d screen... not match
01:52 <sinewav> too bad there isn't a version of arma for myspace/facebook
01:53 <sinewav> that would increase traffic I think
01:53 <luke-jr> wtf?
01:53 <PinkTomato> lol tetris for facebook
01:53 <PinkTomato> why did they release that?
01:53 <PinkTomato> I now have no time on my hand
01:53 <PinkTomato> s
01:53 <sinewav> haha
01:54 <luke-jr> well, there is an armagetron group on facebook
01:54 <PinkTomato> has like 4 people?
01:54 <sinewav> but not a webapp, those games are huge right now
01:54 <luke-jr> 203 members
01:54 <PinkTomato> ooo
01:55 <luke-jr> wtf @ Discussion Board
01:55 <luke-jr> Girls should not play armegetron‼!
01:55 <luke-jr> wtf?
01:55 <sinewav> 203 new servers? ;)
01:55 <BabyBug> ...
01:55 <BabyBug> who said that!
01:55 <luke-jr> someone on that forum
01:55 <luke-jr> "There are many things said on armegetron that are completely disgusting, there r also many mean and harsh things said, most boys no this is all a joke, but some girls think we are serious…"
01:55 <luke-jr> "im not trying to sound mean or anything but cravins is right."
01:56 <ct|kyle> voodoo added in opengl ES to tron now
01:56 <luke-jr> wtf?
01:56 <PinkTomato> does anything use opengl ES?
01:57 <ct|kyle> it can work on handhelds
01:57 <ct|kyle> like psp
01:57 <PinkTomato> I know there is a can :), but is there an is there :D
01:57 <ct|kyle> https://code.launchpad.net/~aavoodoo/+junk/0.2.8-armagetronad-opengles
01:58 <PinkTomato> has someone made a es engine for psp :S?
01:58 <ct|kyle> voodoo said you can get everything you need for it on there
01:59 <PinkTomato> So graphics work is done? just would need porting?
01:59 <ct|kyle> ya
01:59 <ct|kyle> i think so anyway :P
02:00 <PinkTomato> still sounds like a lot of hard work to do :)
02:01 <PinkTomato> babybug: one person was "bigman2"
02:02 <luke-jr> is PSP GPL-compatible?
02:02 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r945 Display list blacklist cut down to Mesa 7.0.x. All other ver...
02:02 <BabyBug> \o/
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02:22 <Lucifer> fonkay: heh, I tried, but ok ;)
02:25  * BabyBug cuddles Lucifer 
02:26 <PinkTomato> does the 50ms delay in US servers actually have any significant effect on a persons reaction time...
02:35 <madmax> a good reaction time usually works, for everything else, there's Rubber™
02:37 <BabyBug> madmax!!
02:37 <madmax> BabyBug!!
02:38 <BabyBug> fail =(
02:38 <madmax> <... hm, can't do it.
02:46 <madmax> BabyBug: 9 people on n9 :o
02:46 <BabyBug> .si deathmatch
02:46 <tronner> BabyBug: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (9/16): -=VcL.Dasher, Beers, Big White Man, C$ $oup, C$ DOWN, C$ J33p, Charlie, God, |SA|Pikachu
02:46 <BabyBug> meh, busy =P
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02:55 <BabyBug> .si deathmatch
02:55 <tronner> BabyBug: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (6/16): -=VcL.Dasher, C$ $oup, C$ DOWN, C$ J33p, Charlie, madmax
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03:50 <luke-jr> wtf
03:50 <luke-jr> VCL clan is charging people $5/mo for "server police program"
03:50 <luke-jr> curiousw
03:50 <luke-jr> wonder what it is
03:50 <akira_arma> what?
03:50 <Lucifer> taking some hints from the mob, I"ll bet
03:50 <luke-jr> lol
03:50 <Lucifer> "Give us $5 and we won't trash your server"
03:50 <luke-jr> akira_arma: Become a -=VcL.Server Admin!  Just $5 a month and you can enroll in our server police program! Go to http://vcl-clan.com for more information today!
03:51 <luke-jr> o
03:51 <luke-jr> looks like it buys admin access
03:51 <akira_arma> wtf
03:51 <luke-jr> lol
03:51 <akira_arma> seriously?
03:51 <luke-jr> get this
03:51 <luke-jr> their site has no info, it seems
03:51 <luke-jr> LOL
03:52 <akira_arma> ....
03:52 <luke-jr> well, I can't find any info
03:55 <luke-jr> does MAX_CLIENTS 0 work?
03:55 <Lucifer> that's like asking "if a tree falls in the forest and nobody is around ot hear it, does it make a sound?"
03:55 <luke-jr> slightly different
03:55 <luke-jr> Lucifer: I want to meter the bandwidth usage of a server always empty
03:56 <luke-jr> taking an hour and multiplying gets ~100 MB/mo
03:56 <Lucifer> that much?  just for talking to the master server?
03:56 <luke-jr> and client polls
03:56 <luke-jr> eg, getting info for the browser(s)
03:57 <Lucifer> hmm, that doesn't account for variations in player usage, then
03:57 <Lucifer> maybe you measured in a peak time?
03:58 <luke-jr> possibly
03:58 <luke-jr> that's why I want to meter a whole month
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04:31 <BabyBug> "We think Dreadlord is not ready to join CT yet" ... How mean...poor deady =(
04:33 <akira_arma> why would anyone join a clan?
04:36 <BabyBug> no idea
04:36 <Lucifer> you're not asking me, are you?
04:36 <BabyBug> But it's still mean to turn people down =(
04:37 <Lucifer> maybe I should start playing again so I can collect clan-joining offers
04:39 <BabyBug> yay you should \o/
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04:41 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: you should try out :P
04:41 <BabyBug> ct|kyle?
04:42 <ct|kyle> for ct :P
04:42 <BabyBug> lol na =)
04:43  * ct|kyle won't cuddle BabyBug anymore :P
04:43 <BabyBug> :o
04:43  * BabyBug cries
04:45 <BabyBug> psht, i know you're cuddle me, you can't resist me =D
04:45 <BabyBug> you'll*
04:46 <ct|kyle> heh
04:46 <ct|kyle> i'll probably forget, but when i remember i'll uncuddle you  :)
04:47 <BabyBug> ><
04:48 <BabyBug> Seriously though, there's no point in me joining a clan. Once I can work again, and am able to drink again, i wont ever play arma again =P
04:49 <ct|kyle> :(
04:49 <ct|kyle> then how can i cuddle you :P
04:50 <BabyBug> cuddles are a substitute for drink =D
04:50 <ct|kyle> heh
04:50 <BabyBug> wont need em anymore =P
04:51 <luke-jr> Lucifer: want to play werewolf?
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07:20 <epsy> why are phpbb smileys not round?
07:20 <epsy> phpbb3*
07:21 <luke-jr> epsy: #Anime
07:21 <epsy> uhm no
07:22 <luke-jr> uhm yes
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07:32 <epsy> z-man-work, https://bugs.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+bug/245925/comments/9
07:32 <teabot> Launchpad bug 245925 in mesa "Both types of display list crash client during play." [Undecided,New]
07:33 <epsy> z-man-work, did it crash using 7.2 as well?
07:33 <epsy> hm, guess I will test
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07:49 <epsy> bbl
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10:09 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r947 Respect display list blacklist even in debug mode.... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r946 Extended display list blacklist to Mesa 7.1....
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11:40 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8653 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. configure.ac): Manuel Moos: Moved MAXCLIENTS from CXXFLAGS to config.h.
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12:15 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r948 Moved MAXCLIENTS from CXXFLAGS to config.h....
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13:28 <z-man-work> epsy: I hadn't tested 7.2 properly when I added that comment :)
13:31 <z-man-work> (That is, indirectly I had. Kubuntu 8.10 comes with it but with a GLX setup, and I had worked that quite a bit before I had installed the other versions from source without crashes.)
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13:49 <epsy> z-man-work, well, it didn't crash, but it has a broken vsync, so I guess I'll stay on the old drivers :\
13:50 <z-man-work> Good. No display lists for you, then!
13:50 <epsy> haha
13:51 <epsy> it's crap, I get 50fps with the old drivers and display lists off and 30 with the new drivers
13:52 <epsy> I'll try to turn it off, if it is possible
13:54 <z-man-work> Also, check if the vsync problem only affects Arma.
13:54 <epsy> yeah, good idea
13:54 <z-man-work> I suppose you tried the different swap modes already? (Fastest/glFlush/glFinish)
13:55 <epsy> yeah, tried that along with vsync mode
13:55 <epsy> motion blur semt to be as the only that changed anything
13:56 <z-man-work> Yeah, it writes directly to the front buffer and doesn't swap at all. In a way, it's the "safest" option.
13:57 <z-man-work> On linux, the ingame vsync option only works for NVidia cards, by the way.
13:58 <z-man-work> If you find out which environment variable your driver listens to for that, share it and I'll add it, too.
13:58 <epsy> so, after one warsow round, it hit the 75fps limit in an empty area of the map, but had poor performance overall
13:58 <epsy> yeah, that's what I am looking for
14:04 <z-man-work> There's several swap_interval extensions, but your driver supports none :(
14:04 <z-man-work> Not even GLX_MESA_swap_control.
14:04 <epsy> yeah, intel drivers suck, whatever they say
14:05 <epsy> brb
14:05 <z-man-work> <luke mode>But They Are Open Source!
14:05 <epsy> yeah, that's what he says
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14:07 <epsy> first, lets see if resizing windows doesnt crash X_x
14:07 <epsy> woot, that's better
14:08 <epsy> and the broken vsync is still on
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16:14 <noob13> !wc
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17:32 <akira_arma> http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7a03e5b6-c541-11dd-b516-000077b07658.html?nclick_check=1
17:32 <akira_arma> :)
17:32 <akira_arma> guess its time to openly admit the plans for the NWO
17:33 <akira_arma> :)
17:34 -!- freako [i=541fbdee@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9a2b5833f069fe70] has joined #armagetron
17:34 <akira_arma> and its citing 3 fabricated reasons:
17:35 <epsy> @title http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7a03e5b6-c541-11dd-b516-000077b07658.html?nclick_check=1
17:35 <teabot> epsy: FT.com / Columnists / Gideon Rachman - And now for a world government
17:35 <akira_arma> not bad huh :)
17:36 <akira_arma> goddamn elitists :/
17:36 <akira_arma> walking over billions of ocrpses
17:36 <freako> akira: how did the server crash get solved during the ladle?
17:37 <freako> want to know how they did it :p
17:37 <akira_arma> we started new game and observers counted points
17:38 <freako> oh ok :)
17:38 <SageLord> hi freako :)
17:38 <freako> hi sagelord!
17:38 <freako> since when ur an IRC addict? :o
17:40 <SageLord> :P
17:41 <SageLord> since maybe 3 days ago? :O
17:41 <freako> damned, I knew it >.<
17:41 <SageLord> haha
17:41 <epsy> I would get bashed for saying "since 3 days" at school
17:41 <SageLord> Oo
17:43 <SageLord> why is that?
17:43 <epsy> because it's wrong! :P
17:43 <freako> Sagelord: How many times is the brawl supposed to be played? And with how many time between 2 brawls*
17:44 <freako> I need to know when I can play the next ladle* :)
17:44 <epsy> freako, how many times is the ladle supposed to be played?
17:44 <SageLord> what do you mean how many times?
17:44 <freako> once a month...
17:44 <SageLord> its played on only one sunday
17:44 <epsy> how often you mean
17:44 <freako> yup :)
17:44 <SageLord> oh...  well i'm not sure, it depends on how people react to the tournament
17:45 <SageLord> if people don't like it, it will probably die, and if people like it, we can do it as often as people want to
17:45 <freako> I-m a bit lost... I can-t use my own pc this week   ...  and this one is shit
17:45 <freako> It-s so shit that I can't read all ur tournament things :/
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17:45 <SageLord> hmm?
17:45 <epsy> freako, /topic #armagetron.tourneys
17:46  * BabyBug cuddles epsy 
17:46 <epsy> hello BabyBug
17:46 <BabyBug> \o
17:46 <freako> I
17:47 <SageLord> what do you mean you can't read it all?
17:48 <freako> So shall I plan the next ladle 1 week after the Brawl*     >? Or the first week of february?
17:48 <epsy> well, it only works on windows seven, you know
17:48 <SageLord> haha definately not, tst is planned one week after brawl
17:48 <epsy> spoiled
17:48 <freako> sagelord: this pc is so shit... it costs like 4 minutes to load ur forums
17:48 <SageLord> oh, i mean
17:48 <SageLord> :S
17:48 <epsy> :P
17:48 <freako> my parens cut my internet because i was playing late (the ladle)
17:48 <K-Yo> SageLord, hi
17:49 <K-Yo> SageLord, I can't reply to your forums, registration needed?
17:49 <freako> k-ro yup
17:49 <SageLord> erm, i thought registration wasn't needed to respond to sign ups
17:49 <SageLord> durka must have changed it
17:50 <K-Yo> darn
17:50 <epsy> hm-
17:50 <K-Yo> and durka did not reply to me
17:50 <freako> Signup doesn't take long, no e-mail confirmation
17:50 <K-Yo> I had an account on ur old forums, do I need to make a new one?
17:50 <K-Yo> my last one won't work :(
17:50 <epsy> well, email confirmation can be done in 1 minute freako..lol
17:50 <SageLord> thats because we moved to different forums
17:51 <freako> not on this shit pc ;)
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17:51 <freako> so I was happy it was not there .
17:51 <SageLord> so you'll probably hvae to register again
17:51 <SageLord> sorry freako :/
17:52 <K-Yo> okay
17:52 <K-Yo> speedx, u can talk to me through IRC instead of PMs :P
17:53 <freako> :)
17:55 <freako> Odd. no irc logs from yesterday
17:55 <freako> on wrtlprnft's
17:55 <SageLord> ok, guests can now post only in the sign-up thread
17:55 <epsy> yeah, wrtl's running through home network trouble
17:56 <K-Yo> SageLord, cool :)
17:56 <epsy> his only working link is the link to freenode, heh
17:57  * freako would go crazy... if he only could use freenode
17:57 <SageLord> is that good kyo?
17:57 <epsy> uhm, you're using it..
17:57 <freako> only* :)
17:58 <K-Yo> SageLord, perfect :)
17:58 <SageLord> :D
17:58 <epsy> ok you lost me
17:58 <K-Yo> so, who's up for some fort?
17:59 <SageLord> lol, i like your preferred fortress positions
17:59 <K-Yo> SageLord, thx ;)
17:59 <epsy> I still didnt chose mines
17:59 <freako> I would like 2, but this pc only gets like 1 fps :/
17:59 <K-Yo> freako, argh
18:00 <freako> 1,6 Ghz ftw!
18:00 <K-Yo> woot
18:00 <epsy> 1,6GHz is fine..
18:00 <freako> 23 mb intel video :)
18:00 <freako> 32 i mean *\
18:00 <K-Yo> I got 1,7
18:00 <K-Yo> I got 1,7GHz
18:00 <epsy> intel video does not have it'sx won memory, so wtf are these 23Mb ?
18:01 <epsy> it's own*
18:01 <freako> shared memory I thought, or it's a integrated one
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18:01 <SageLord> all right guys, i gotta head out, got a final today to study for
18:01 <epsy> yeah..you can change it
18:01 <epsy> bb
18:01 <SageLord> bye :)
18:02 <freako> cya
18:02 <freako> anyways, shared memory sucks most of the time
18:02 <epsy> yeah, but not to the point of 1 fps
18:03 <freako> Then there's something wrong with this pc (idk all specifics)
18:03 <K-Yo> bigfarm?
18:03 <K-Yo> u*
18:03 <epsy> what OS are you runing on it?
18:03 <freako> hopefully I can play the ladle next time, without losing my internet :/
18:04 <freako> Xp
18:04 <freako> XP *
18:04 <epsy> hmm..
18:08 <BabyBug> bugfarm is rigged!
18:09 <freako> rigged* ?
18:09 <epsy> that's exactly what she wrote..
18:10 <BabyBug> =P
18:10 <freako> What is the meaning of Rigged?
18:11 <BabyBug> erm
18:11 <BabyBug> im not sure how one would explain it
18:12 <epsy> freako: http://dictionnaire.sensagent.com/rigged/en-nl/
18:13 <freako> Epsy , that dictionary tells me that it's a truck :P
18:13 <freako> bugfarm is a truck :O
18:14 <epsy> she said it rigged, not that it was a rig
18:14 <BabyBug> LOL
18:14 <epsy> look the last translation
18:14 <freako> uhm... that means
18:14 <epsy> [18:13] <epsy>: look the last translation
18:15 <BabyBug> its faked, somethings been done to it to ensure a specific thing happens...And that thing is i die!! =(
18:15 <freako> optuigen = making a chrismas tree beautifull with stuff
18:15 <epsy> it's opgetuigd ..
18:16 <epsy> you even have trouble at reading your own language O_O
18:16 <freako> lol... so the server looks like christmas tree  lol
18:16 <epsy> she basically means it's up and running
18:16 <freako> a christmas tree is  opgetuigd*
18:16 <epsy> and floating like a boat
18:18 <BabyBug> floating like a boat?!
18:18 <BabyBug> I do not mean that ><
18:19 <epsy> just keep the up and running part, and that it runs smoothly
18:19 <freako> optuigen:  embellish -  dress up -   beautify - Decorate - Garnish - Doll up -  Decorating
18:19 <freako> 18:15 BabyBug its faked     ... is that smooth :O
18:20 <freako> blah dinner :)
18:20 <BabyBug> men == idiots
18:22 <epsy> is that an assertion?
18:23 <BabyBug> Yup
18:24  * epsy sends a SIGABRT to BabyBug
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18:25 <epsy> haha
18:26 <iccleoldme> ......
18:26 <epsy> <3
18:27 <iccleoldme> Why does babybug take so fricken long to quit ><
18:27 <epsy> [18:22] <BabyBug>: Yup
18:27 <epsy> [18:23] * epsy sends a SIGABRT to BabyBug
18:27 <epsy> [18:25] * iccleoldme [n=BabyBug@] a rejoint #armagetron
18:28 <iccleoldme> bash.org worthy? =P
18:28 <epsy> I'll wait for the timeout ^^
18:28 <iccleoldme> hehe
18:31 <Monkey_arma>  iccleoldme:   /GHOST <nick> <password>   - Kills a ghosted name
18:31 <iccleoldme> what password? :s
18:32 <Monkey_arma> ah
18:32 <Monkey_arma> you need to register
18:32 <ct|kyle> z-man-work: Bug 253720, was a conflicting server setting,
18:32 <teabot> Launchpad bug 253720 in armagetronad "Camera locks to one position (Incam)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/253720
18:32 <epsy>  * /msg nickserv ghost <nick> <pass>
18:32 <epsy> BabyBug, your nickserv pass
18:32 <Monkey_arma> when you finally get Babybug back, type     /msg nickserv register <password>
18:33 <iccleoldme> epsy, what's my nickserv pass? :P
18:33  * ct|kyle sends BabyBug some drinks :)
18:33 <Monkey_arma> (where you choose a password instead of <password>
18:33 <z-man-work> ct|kyle: still sounds like a bug to me.
18:33 <iccleoldme> Oh ok Monkey_arma =)
18:33 <Monkey_arma> then to login each time:
18:33 <Monkey_arma>  /msg nickserv identify <password>
18:33 <Monkey_arma> ok?
18:33 <iccleoldme> okies :)
18:33 <Monkey_arma> k
18:33 <ct|kyle> z-man-work: sine.wav or hoop will know the settings they had to change, i'll ask them when they are in here
18:33  * iccleoldme kicks BabyBug away
18:33 <z-man-work> k
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18:44 <BabyBug> finally
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18:49 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: you should have another baby :P, then you can keep playing tron :P
18:50 <BabyBug> no thank you =P
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19:04 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: i'm not sure what the problem is with the server browser
19:04 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: though it is working again
19:07 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: Ah right, that's odd. Well glad it's back up :)
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19:19  * BabyBug squeezes Lizmatic 
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20:19 <K-Yo> .servers
20:19 <tronner> K-Yo: This data is 18 seconds old; The YELLOW Submarine (13/16), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (12/12), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (10/16), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (9/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (8/10), Wild West  =Capture The Flag=  ~Multi~Mode~ (7/10), Bugfarm Elimination Sumo (6/16), WILDCAT (6/8), |FA| BLACK TAR (5/16), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (5/12), Wild West  =CTF (2 more messages)
20:20 <K-Yo> .ctos
20:20 <tronner> K-Yo: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo: Players (0/12):
20:20 <K-Yo> ah
20:21 <Lizmatic> pwned
20:32 <K-Yo> indeed
20:33 <K-Yo> .bug
20:33 <tronner> K-Yo: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “bugfarm fortress clone” at the moment, sorry.
20:33 <K-Yo> .si bug
20:33 <tronner> K-Yo: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “bug” at the moment, sorry.
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20:36 <ct|kyle> z-man-work: bug updated
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20:39 <wrtlprnft> epsy: it fixed itself by now
20:39 <epsy> heh, well you had good luck I guess
20:40 <wrtlprnft> it wasn't my fault
20:41 <epsy> wrtlprnft, the chatlogs are still frozen by the way
20:41 <wrtlprnft> ah, right, i killed the script updating them by accident
20:41 <wrtlprnft> there they are
20:41 <epsy> well, fortress café isn't your fault either, but we're still waiting for news from you about it
20:41 <wrtlprnft> heh, my fault for not having the time :-S
20:42 <wrtlprnft> and it's quite frustrating
20:42 <epsy> also, I'm not sure if it's possible, but wouldn't it be wiser to have the list of logs shown in the opposite order?
20:43 <wrtlprnft> click on the column headings?
20:43 <wrtlprnft> it's an apache autogenerated index, after all
20:43 <epsy> it won't ever remember it will it?
20:43 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armalogs/?C=N;O=D
20:44 <wrtlprnft> tell me how to change the default order and i'll do it
20:46 <epsy> wrtlprnft: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/mod/mod_autoindex.html#indexorderdefault
20:49 <wrtlprnft> i knew this would result in work… done
20:49 <epsy> hey, you only took 3 minutes on it! :)
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20:51 <wrtlprnft> i even fixed the icons (again)
20:51 <wrtlprnft> whoever had the glorious idea to make them a symlink to a versioned directory (and not be updated automatically) should be shot
20:54 <wrtlprnft> anyways, i'll try updating again, and compile a new kernel. maybe that's gonna work
20:55 <epsy> updating cafai?
20:55 <wrtlprnft> yeah
20:55 <epsy> uhm yeah, good luck :)
20:55 <wrtlprnft> maybe the thing that's making trouble will rebuild
20:56 <wrtlprnft> failing that i might as well download the entire harddrive, cancel my contract and get a new server to start a new. it's probably gonna be better hardware-wise, and if the entire thing was just a hardware issue it won't bother me anymore
20:56 <epsy> haha
21:02 <wrtlprnft> wah, this rescue system has the worst possible .screenrc
21:02 <epsy> at least it stayed online the last four months :x
21:03 <wrtlprnft> well, i rebooted it a couple of times while trying to fix it
21:04 <epsy> 4 months vs few hours
21:04 <wrtlprnft> hehe
21:04 <wrtlprnft> i'll be so mad if i find out this is a faulty sata cable or something
21:04 <epsy> rescue system wins :<
21:05 <luke-jr> http://www.bbspot.com/News/2008/12/linux-on-a-potato.html
21:05 <epsy> did you think about running arma on the rescue OS?
21:06 <K-Yo> http://www.bbspot.com/News/2000/9/linux_laid.html
21:07 <wrtlprnft> too screwy
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21:12 <wrtlprnft> i actually did that for a couple of days
21:12 <wrtlprnft> but most other services don't run well in chroot, especially sshd
21:12 <epsy> indeed that wouldn't work
21:13 <wrtlprnft> i tied that a couple of times, but i ended up losing all connection to the recue system and having to reboot it
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21:25 <SageLord2> ahoy
21:25 <epsy> yoha
21:25 <SageLord2> d:
21:25 <epsy> so, uhm, defender/sweeper?
21:27 <epsy> K-Yo, you *should* give in your preferences btw (also *cough* at lack & max :) )
21:27 <SageLord2> haha
21:28 <K-Yo> epsy, what if I really don't have any?
21:28 <SageLord2> yea if you don't give your preferences, you won't be listed under any position if team captains want to sort by position
21:28 <SageLord2> <<<creating a spreadsheet
21:28 <K-Yo> where's the bad part in that?
21:28 <SageLord2> there's nothing wrong with it
21:28 <epsy> then pick a piece of paper, write down fortress positions on it, close your eyes and let whatever drop on it
21:28 <K-Yo> cool then
21:28 <SageLord2> haha
21:28 <K-Yo> haha
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21:29 <SageLord2> i'll make a new category... "undecided"
21:29 <epsy> SageLord2, that will be a nightmare
21:29 <SageLord2> haha
21:29 <SageLord2> yea...
21:29 <K-Yo> wait
21:29 <K-Yo> you need one?
21:29 <K-Yo> if you do I can give you some
21:29 <Lizmatic> sage, what happened to TR website?
21:29 <SageLord2> it would be nice, just pick 2
21:29 <K-Yo> put me in def/2/3
21:29 <epsy> in TST, there was a team that didn't want preferences
21:30 <SageLord2> liz:  one of ~X~'s friends was paying it for us
21:30 <epsy> I passed like half an hour on thinking about what I would do with that
21:30 <SageLord2> and he didn't want to pay for it anymore
21:30 <epsy> Lizmatic, http://twisted-rats.co.cc/
21:30 <Lizmatic> ah..
21:30 <SageLord2> so goody and i were going to help pay for it
21:30 <SageLord2> but then durka said something that ticked him off
21:30 <SageLord2> so he closed it down lol
21:30 <SageLord2> so... new forums! :)
21:31 <Lizmatic> JOOOOMIA
21:31 <Lizmatic> JOOMIA! lol
21:31 <epsy> joomla :|
21:31 <epsy> suckss :|
21:32 <SageLord2> what's that? :S
21:32 <Lizmatic> ..your website
21:32 <Lizmatic> joomla foo
21:32 <SageLord2> oh
21:32 <SageLord2> hahaha
21:32 <SageLord2> whoops :p
21:32 <SageLord2> what's wrong with it?
21:32 <SageLord2> :s
21:33 <epsy> it's..empty?
21:33 <Lizmatic> um *cough*
21:33 <Lizmatic> have you never seen your frontpage sage?:P
21:33 <SageLord2> yea... a long time ago
21:33 <SageLord2> i just go straight to the forums
21:33 <SageLord2> twisted-rats.co.cc/forum
21:34 <Lizmatic> good plan
21:34 <SageLord2> xP
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21:36 <epsy> You should hide that joomla stuff before it's ready, I'd say
21:36 <SageLord2> haha, well
21:36 <SageLord2> i'll get to it, or ask durka to get to it
21:36 <SageLord2> idk if he wants me messing with the forums/website more than i have already :P
21:37  * epsy decided he would stop trying to mess with phpbb
21:37 <Lizmatic> punbb ftw
21:37 <epsy> nah, not rly
21:37 <Lizmatic> how dare you
21:37 <armabot> fts_feedback: Concord - rain || rain - re-visit scoring system || Concord - that sucked
21:38 <epsy> holy shit café's up
21:38 <wrtlprnft> lol
21:38 <wrtlprnft> ssh rain@arma
21:38 <wrtlprnft> new kernel from scratch was the trick
21:38 <epsy> and do you know if it will stay up for more than an hour?
21:38 <wrtlprnft> (and not forgetting to enable the drivers for reiserfs, my network card and the sata controller, all of which are disabled by default)
21:38 <wrtlprnft> well, it's the original system
21:39 <epsy> Lizmatic, start ¦×¦ sumo or not?
21:39 <wrtlprnft> the next voluntary reboot will be a while, that much is sure
21:40 <wrtlprnft> need to rebuild it, though
21:40 <wrtlprnft> and probably update
21:40 <epsy> the kernel?
21:40 <wrtlprnft> no, arma
21:41 <Lizmatic> sumo what huh where
21:41 <SageLord2> o:
21:41 <epsy> ah, I've been using my own builds for a little while now
21:41 <wrtlprnft> cc1plus: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-strict-overflow"
21:41 <epsy> but well, I'll lay that on tomorrow
21:42 <wrtlprnft> err, maybe there should be some checking whether gcc 4.3 is actually used?
21:43 <epsy> $ ssh-xfort
21:43 <epsy> Permission denied (publickey).
21:44 <wrtlprnft> give me a public key then
21:44 <wrtlprnft> (although it shouldn't have changed)
22:11 <Lizmatic> haha @ everyone going to x sumo
22:11 <Lizmatic> *laughs at kyo*
22:11 <Lizmatic> NERRR
22:11 <SageLord2> o:
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22:22 <armabot> lpbugs: [306969] compiling fails with gcc-4.1.2 and CODELEVEL>=1 due to -W-no-strict-overflow
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22:32 <fonkay> Lucifer: Not hard enough. ;)
22:39 <hoax> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXfHLUlZf4
22:43  * PinkTomato is happy to see |X|sumo is back :0
22:43 <PinkTomato> :)
22:44 <epsy> I am happy I can win matches with a simple console command again
22:48 <PinkTomato> lol epsy :)
22:55 <SageLord2> all right time for my circuit analysis final... wish me luck :S
22:58 <SageLord2> i want to see 5 more people signed up for Fortress Brawl before I get back, ok? :D
23:01 <K-Yo> when do you come back?
23:01 <SageLord2> 4 hours
23:01 <SageLord2> ish
23:02 <SageLord2> long final... i hope i don't fall asleep in the middle of it ;)
23:03 <epsy> SageLord2, uhm, good luck
23:03 <SageLord2> :p
23:04 <hoax> gtfo sage
23:04 <hoax> as if you need it
23:05 <SageLord2> haha
23:05 <PinkTomato> +1 from me :)
23:06 <PinkTomato> you only need 3 more now
23:06 <SageLord2> haha great :)
23:06 <SageLord2> but i haven't left yet... so still 4
23:06 <SageLord2> :D
23:06 <epsy> haha :D
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23:13 <SageLord2> k now i'm leaving, bye guys :)
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23:13 <epsy> ok so four remaining
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23:44 <madmax> fortress anyone? (in the real fortress café)
23:45 <akira_arma> i'd be in
23:45 <sinewav> 0_0 the REAL one?
23:45 <madmax> #sd -v café
23:46 <armabot> madmax: Fortress Café (armagetron.at:4539) running 0.2.8_alpha20080805 unix dedicated, url: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/, Description: “This is a fortress server. Expect to be kicked if you don't know how to play. To learn how to play try http://wiki.armagetronad.net/“, Players (1/32): madmax
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23:50 <Lizmatic> flex
23:51 <Flex> yes?
23:51 <Lizmatic> did you know that the word faggot starts with F too?
23:51 <Lizmatic> (no I will not answer you!)
23:52 <Flex> oh yeah..
23:52 <K-Yo> gz wrtlprnft having ur server back up ;)
23:53 <Monkey_arma> guys, come and support pink tomatoes in the quest for sumo server domination
23:53 <Lizmatic> what?
23:53 <Monkey_arma> (North American)
23:54 <K-Yo> Monkey_arma, ??
23:54 <madmax> come and support fortress by joining café \o/
23:56 <dlh> #sd -v café
23:56 <armabot> dlh: Fortress Café (armagetron.at:4539) running 0.2.8_alpha20080805 unix dedicated, url: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/, Description: “This is a fortress server. Expect to be kicked if you don't know how to play. To learn how to play try http://wiki.armagetronad.net/“, Players (4/32): akira (akira@forums), free kill, ikono, madmax

Log from 2008-12-11:
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00:01 -!- Ratchet-- [n=joshua@99-195-9-134.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #armagetron
00:01 <Ratchet--> hey uh
00:01 <Ratchet--> serious help needed with tron
00:02 <Ratchet--> I was just playing and it shut off immediately like I hit shift escape
00:02 <Ratchet--> when I start it up it shows the title screen then goes black
00:02 <Ratchet--> and if i hit enter it shows blurred letters and such
00:02 <Ratchet--> on ubuntu
00:02 -!- emmy_arma [n=peiaeman@pc232133.static.is.airbites.ro] has joined #armagetron
00:03 <Ratchet--> ivantis
00:03 <Ratchet--> luke-jr:
00:03 <Ratchet--> someone :s
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00:08 <dlh> It was so urgent he could only wait 5 minutes for the answer.
00:08 <K-Yo> yeah
00:08 <K-Yo> :P
00:08 <K-Yo> I was just noticing that
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00:22 <fonkay> boo
00:24 <Flex> Lizmatic, you look like Patchwerk, from WoW!
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00:30 <Lizmatic> Flex, you look like an ass
00:30 <BabyBug> +1
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00:35 <Flex> that's not what your mamma said last night
00:35 -!- antric [n=anonymou@S0106001839c1653e.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #armagetron
00:37 <Lizmatic> thats what she said
00:37 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: sshd works fine in chroot for me
00:39 <Monkey_arma> comging to fort guys?
00:39 <Lizmatic> are you there?
00:40 <Lackadaisical> just left..
00:40 <Monkey_arma> hmm
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00:40 <Monkey_arma> no im in pinks sumo
00:40 <luke-jr> lol
00:44 <Lizmatic> There is only  1 sumo.
00:44 <Lizmatic> x team sumo.
00:45 <Flex> what about bugfarm? and ct open sumo?
00:45 <Flex> and wild west sumo
00:45 <Lizmatic> (although I don't get the craze over this "team" thing)
00:45 <Lizmatic> Flex, you're obviously seeing ghosts
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01:00 <john_ripper> yeaaah! all tronner's in here?
01:00 <Ratchet--> i restarted and it fixed but its broke again
01:01 <Ratchet--> PinkTomato:  luke-jr Lucifer ivantis3
01:01 <luke-jr> Lucifer: wanna kick Ratchet-- for us?
01:01 <Ratchet--> yeah no
01:01 <Ratchet--> -.-
01:02 <luke-jr> Ratchet--: wanna pay me $35/hr for private tech support?
01:02 <Ratchet--> not quite
01:02 <john_ripper> :D
01:02 <luke-jr> then stfu and stop highlighting me
01:02 <john_ripper> Which private tech support?
01:02 <Ratchet--> <3
01:02 <john_ripper> Installing tron ? LOL
01:03 <luke-jr> Ratchet--: if you want help, ask your problem WITHOUT highlighting people
01:03 <luke-jr> and if we're around, we MIGHT see it
01:03 <luke-jr> and MIGHT have time to help
01:03 <luke-jr> but chances are, "its broke" will get 100% IGNORED
01:03 <luke-jr> because it tells us NOTHING
01:03 <Ratchet--> well k
01:03 <PinkTomato> Ratchet--: Ratchet-- Ratchet-- Are you still running compiz?
01:03 <luke-jr> you will at the very least need to DESCRIBE THE PROBLEM
01:03 <Ratchet--> no PinkTomato
01:04 <luke-jr> and probably provide a BACKTRACE if it's a crash
01:04 <john_ripper> I just entered...soo...Ratchet, WTF you wanna do?
01:04 <Ratchet--> i open tron and it shows splash screen
01:04 <Ratchet--> then it goes black
01:04 <Ratchet--> if i press enter to make the menu show up
01:04 <Ratchet--> the text is fuckified
01:04 <Ratchet--> and unreadable
01:04  * luke-jr blames Ratchet--.
01:05 <john_ripper> Damn...i thought: NOW IT COMES! THE IF STATEMENT IN LINE 1038 DOES NOT SEEMS.... .
01:05 <john_ripper> ...but it's just a problem with your installation?
01:06 <luke-jr> LOL
01:06 <Ratchet--> i'm on ubunttttt jackass
01:06 <Ratchet--> -.-
01:06 <Ratchet--> ubuntu *
01:06 <luke-jr> john_ripper: hey, join #anime and play Yandere with is
01:06 <luke-jr> us*
01:06 <luke-jr> Ratchet--: WTF DO WE CARE ABOUT UBUNTU?
01:07 <john_ripper> Yandere? :D k
01:07 <PinkTomato> what scvreen res is it in?
01:08 <Ratchet--> uh same size as window is
01:08 <Ratchet--> 800 600
01:09 <PinkTomato> you running it in a window?
01:09 <Ratchet--> yessir
01:09 <john_ripper> Ratchet...open your config.cvs.
01:09 <Ratchet--> ... for?
01:09 <PinkTomato> send us a printscreen of whatever you can
01:09 <luke-jr> wtf is config.cvs?
01:09 <Ratchet--> well i can show you the fucked up text?
01:10 <Ratchet--> thats all thats unusual
01:10 <PinkTomato> just send a printscreen :)
01:10 <Ratchet--> im reinstaling right now, trying that
01:10 <Ratchet--> k
01:11 <PinkTomato> have you messed around with the resource files?
01:11 <john_ripper> Hm...let me search... . In your .armagetron folder... .
01:11 <john_ripper> .armagetronad/var$
01:11 <john_ripper> There it is:
01:12 <john_ripper> Open "user.cfg"
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01:12 <Ratchet--> ok then what
01:12 <Ratchet--> john_ripper:
01:12 <Ratchet--> O.o
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01:12 <TaZ_> Hello
01:13 <john_ripper> Than!
01:13 <john_ripper> Post it please to http://pastebin.com
01:13 <john_ripper> Just the first 50 lines.
01:13 <john_ripper> Or wait... .
01:13 -!- TaZ_ [i=981ea16b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-461a64754a440d97] has quit [Client Quit]
01:13 <john_ripper> change these lines:
01:14 <john_ripper> No, don't change these lines, change the value of them!
01:14 <john_ripper> I got -1
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01:14 <john_ripper> And it worked fine for me.
01:14 <luke-jr> john_ripper: :/
01:14 <Ratchet--> http://pastebin.com/m2e735034
01:15 <john_ripper> Do u use debian?
01:15 <TaZ_> luke-jr:
01:16 <john_ripper> Ratchet--? Windows? Debian? Gentoo? Red Hat?
01:16 <john_ripper> What's your default screen res?
01:18 <PinkTomato> this is what we were dealing with: http://img258.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot2dt1.png
01:18 <PinkTomato> Ratchet-- reinstalled and all is well.
01:18 <TaZ_> oO
01:20 <john_ripper> But the cycle seems well build ;)
01:21 <john_ripper> stats and letters are irrelevant :D
01:24 <PinkTomato> :)
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01:32 <dlh> Probably a problem with Mesa... he'll be back complaining again. http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18508
01:32 <teabot> Freedesktop bug 18508 in Drivers/X11 "OpenGL texture corruption" [Major,New]
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02:23 <SageLord> oy, its snowing :O
02:24 <SageLord> you guys have failed in getting 4 people to sign up
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02:28 <SageLord> -.-
02:30 <Monkey_arma> its too early to signup sage
02:30 <hoax> SageLord
02:30 <hoax> how to i know what im doing on the 18th of jan
02:30 <hoax> do*
02:45 <hoax> deadline is 23rd?
02:49 <SageLord> yea thats the deadline, subject to change
02:52 <SageLord> do you think i should extend the sign ups another week?
02:53 <Monkey_arma> personally, i would go by the ladle. but its up to you if you want to have an earlier deadline
02:54 <hoax> SageLord: oui, at least, imo.
02:58 <SageLord> i think i will extend it one week
02:58 <SageLord> then
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02:59 <SageLord> i want to give teams that want to practice a chance to practice
03:07 <Monkey_arma> you do whatever you want
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04:03 <Lucifer> fonkay: like I'm really going to be able to *make* someone who lives a couple thousand miles from me do something she doesn't want to do....
04:04 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: how is your girl chasing going  (hi there)
04:09 <Lucifer> heh, not good
04:09 <Lucifer> struck out with the librarian
04:10 <Lucifer> right now I've got higher priorities than girl chasing, so it's not happening at all
04:10 <ct|kyle> ah
04:10 <Lucifer> there was a girl in a geology class that was showing a high amount of interest
04:11 <Lucifer> but besides looking like she wasn't even old enough to buy beer, some casual eavesdropping revealed a strong possibility of a boyfriend already (but nothing conclusive)
04:13 <Lucifer> hmmm, do I want to spend the memory to have a widget whose sole purpose is to allow someone to create a new budget when none exist?
04:13 <Lucifer> er, I guess that question answers itself, because I need a way to create more after there is one
04:14 <Lucifer> ahhh, that's the question that stopped work last night
04:14 <Lucifer> ok, I get it now ;)
04:17 <ct|kyle> ah
04:17 <luke-jr> Lucifer: your irreligiousity I'm sure helped you get over your ex-wife :/
04:18 <luke-jr> sigh
04:18 <Lucifer> luke-jr: nah, her being a psycho helped a lot
04:18 <Lucifer> to be honest, I'm not convinced I'm over her completely
04:18 <luke-jr> well, my wife's a psycho yet I'm back to begging her to come home.
04:18 <Lucifer> just that I'm over the initial peak
04:18 <Lucifer> it's a stage
04:18 <Lucifer> got some money to buy a book?
04:18 <Lucifer> I'll even give you a handy amazon link :)
04:18 <luke-jr> it doesn't help that giving her up means celibacy for the rest of my life
04:19 <Lucifer> celibacy is probably best, really, heh
04:19 <Lucifer> anyway, I found reading a particular book and joining a divorce support group to be extremely helpful
04:19 <luke-jr> celibacy, for me, comes with anti-emotionalism :x
04:19 <Lucifer> of course, it's easier to find divorce support groups that are religion-based than it is to find some that aren't
04:19 <luke-jr> such a thing exists?
04:20 <Lucifer> anyway, the book I read (and browse through occasionally) really goes into detail on what to expect emotionally and how to cope with it
04:20 <Lucifer> yeah, there are support groups for everything
04:20 <Lucifer> I found mine through craigslist, but I'm sure google will work for you just as well
04:20 <Lucifer> it helps a lot to find "like minds" going through similar situations
04:20 <luke-jr> there are no like minds IMO
04:21 <Lucifer> http://www.amazon.com/Divorce-New-Beginnings-Co-Parenting-Stepfamilies/dp/0471326488/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1228965663&sr=8-1
04:21 <luke-jr> I really just have no choice but to get her back. :/
04:21 <Lucifer> then find a reasonable facsimile thereof
04:22 <Lucifer> look, the stages of grief that you go through when someone dies also apply to divorce
04:22 <luke-jr> for me, there are no "New Beginnings"
04:22 <Lucifer> and during the "bargaining stage" is when you want to get her back
04:22 <luke-jr> death is different in that regard
04:22 <Lucifer> but it is a stage, and you can get through it
04:22 <Lucifer> indeed, divorce is the single worst trauma a person can experience
04:23 <Lucifer> and it's harder for men than it is for women, apparently
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04:23 <luke-jr> maybe I should take her by force
04:23 <Lucifer> newton's third law will bite you
04:24 <luke-jr> ?
04:24 <Lucifer> for every force, there is an equal and opposite force
04:24 <luke-jr> here's a new WTF:
04:25 <luke-jr> the MAX_CLIENTS 0 server I have is using more bandwidth than a regular rented server
04:25 <luke-jr> O.o
04:25 <luke-jr> Lucifer: well, maybe that opposite force will be somewhere far away from me
04:25 <Lucifer> what other toolkits do I know?  :/
04:26 <Lucifer> that's just wishful thinking.  If she doesn't want to come back, there's very little you can do
04:26 <Lucifer> really, I found that the time I spent thinking about all the ways I didn't like my wife really helped a lot :)
04:26 <Lucifer> make a list of things you like and things you don't like
04:26 <Lucifer> see which one's longer
04:27 <Lucifer> let's see, things I like about my ex-wife:
04:27 <Lucifer> 1.  Her boobs
04:27 <luke-jr> …
04:27 <ct|kyle> why does my college never schedule classes at reasonable times
04:27 <Lucifer> I think that's it
04:27 <Lucifer> yep, I'm pretty sure that's all I like about her
04:27 <Lucifer> I'm also pretty sure I don't have enough bandwidth to list thet hings I don't like about her
04:28 <ct|kyle> heh
04:28 <luke-jr> well even if sex was the only thing on my 'like about her' list, it also weighs pretty high since it is irreplacable
04:28 <Lucifer> there's a lot to be said for being celibate
04:29 <luke-jr> I don't even know if that's possible for me now.
04:29 <luke-jr> maybe back before she took my virginity.
04:29 <Lucifer> I would love to be able to go through life, seeing attractive women, and not having any interest at all
04:29 <luke-jr> I did that once upon a time
04:29 <luke-jr> but then I also looked upon love as disgusting
04:29 <Lucifer> I never have, heh
04:29 <luke-jr> and I couldn't raise kids thinking love is disgusting
04:29 <Lucifer> I wanted to marry my kindergarten teacher, she was freaking hot
04:30 <Lucifer> I never went through a stage where I thought girls were icky
04:30 <Lucifer> except fonkay
04:30 <luke-jr> I finally reluctantly admitted she was my girlfriend about a month before I married her.
04:30 <luke-jr> well, I don't think I considered *girls* icky
04:31 <luke-jr> rather, love, humans, sex, and emotional stuff in general
04:31 <Lucifer> nah, not me, never
04:31 <Lucifer> I wish there was a pill for that, seriously
04:32 <luke-jr> supposedly it's a disorder
04:32 <Lucifer> in fact, I'm going to have to say the reason I managed to stay married to that psycho for so long was because I loved the rollercoaster that our relationship was
04:32 <luke-jr> Schizoid Personaltiy Disorder
04:32 <luke-jr> there is a celibacy pill
04:32 <luke-jr> but it's not marketted as such
04:32 <Lucifer> you could just get your balls removed
04:32 <Lucifer> that's a tempting solution for me, but not quite tempting enough
04:33 <luke-jr> it's marketted for women for some kind of menstral thing
04:33 <Lucifer> there are other effects that I don't want ;)
04:33 <luke-jr> called 'chaste berry'
04:34 <luke-jr> anyhow, in my current condition, I literally cannot get anything done
04:35 <Lucifer> that's to be expected
04:35 <ct|kyle> how long has she been away
04:35 <Lucifer> you have to focus on paying the bills, and then just pick small things, small victories you can claim
04:35 <Lucifer> you want the cumulative effect of doing lots of small things
04:36 <Lucifer> you're UNIX, you want to do lots of little things really well and celebrate each one as its own victory
04:36  * Lucifer is working on his resume
04:36 <ct|kyle> like running it on a potato :P
04:36 <Lucifer> I looked at it today and realized why it hasn't helped me find a job
04:36 <Lucifer> it was terrible
04:36 <Lucifer> simply terrible
04:37 <Lucifer> also, get some exercise
04:37 <Lucifer> seriously, exercise
04:37 <Lucifer> take a martial arts class or something, something that only requires you to show up but doesn't require intense discipline (where working out solo requires intense discipline)
04:38  * Lucifer is going to take advantage of a free month from a tae kwon doe school, and if he's doing better financially in January, probably sign up
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04:38 <Lucifer> hi Manta, bye Manta
04:40 <Lucifer> I think I'll ask my question to RefreshAustin and see if any UI gurus there have a good answer
04:48 <Lucifer> if I ask enough questions to that group, maybe people will figure I know something (heh) and it'll be easier to find work
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09:20 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8654 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. batch/checkbugle.py src/engine/eCamera.cpp): Manuel Moos: Removed old debug code.
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09:50 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r949 Removed old debug code....
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10:25 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8655 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. acinclude.m4 configure.ac): Manuel Moos: Only add -Wno-strict-overflow if the compiler supports it.
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10:52 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r950 Only add -Wno-strict-overflow if the compiler supports it....
11:00 <fonkay> I'm not _that_ icky.
11:07 <Lucifer> fonkay: don't worry, it's just a stage
11:08 <Lucifer> you know you're programming too much when your compile lines read like this:
11:08 <Lucifer> g++ -c -pipe -O2 -D_REENTRANT -Wall -W -DCONSOLE_OUT -DQT_NO_DEBUG -DQT_SVG_LIB -DQT_SQL_LIB -DQT_GUI_LIB -DQT_CORE_LIB -DQT_SHARED -I/usr/share/qt4/mkspecs/linux-g++ -I. -I/usr/include/qt4/QtCore -I/usr/include/qt4/QtCore -I/usr/include/qt4/QtGui -I/usr/include/qt4/QtGui -I/usr/include/qt4/QtSql -I/usr/include/qt4/QtSql -I/usr/include/qt4/QtSvg -I/usr/include/qt4/QtSvg -I/usr/include/qt4 -I/usr/include/gwenhywfar3 -Imodels
11:08 <Lucifer> -Iwidgets -Iaccounting -Ibanking -Idelegates -Iwidgets/dialogs -Iwidgets/input -Iwidgets/base -I../../modeltest -I. -I. -o ../build/SplitEditor.o widgets/SplitEditor.cpp
11:09  * Lucifer needs to push his new c++ repo to launchpad
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12:04 <hang3r> Pics fonkay or it didn't happen
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13:18 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8656 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/tron/gCycleMovement.cpp): Manuel Moos: Avoiding division by zero when breaking from a wall and CYCLE_WALL_NEAR is 0.
13:27 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8657 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/tron/gCycleMovement.cpp): Manuel Moos: Avoiding unwanted negative boosts.
13:28 <hang3r> Wow, I decided to download the latest SVN version of armagetronad 3.0alpha, nice work guys, I actually cant even work out how to play the game, and I'm not exactly new to armagetron, mind you I haven't played in years. Just some constructive criticism for you all to think about
13:29 <hang3r> Joined a server "Sorry, you must play 2 mins blah blah blah", err no.
13:29 <hang3r> went into local game, "wow I'm watching bots now, how do I actually join my own local game?" ...
13:30 <hang3r> Do I have to press secret key combinations?
13:31 <hang3r> Seems so...
13:32 <hang3r> You may want to take a step back and KEEP IT SIMPLE!
13:39 <z-man-work> hang3r: which server was that?
13:44 <akira_arma> yea simplcism was always the major feat of tron
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13:56 <epsy> wrtlprnft, "libm" is lacking
14:00 <hang3r> z-man-work, I can't remember which server it was. I take it that wasn't typical behaviour then?
14:00 <z-man-work> indeed.
14:00 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r952 Avoiding unwanted negative boosts.... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r951 Avoiding division by zero when breaking from a wall and CYCL...
14:00 <z-man-work> The server uses a rarely used setting which seems to have an undesired side effect.
14:00 <z-man-work> When you restart the game, can you play then?
14:01 <z-man-work> Or do you have to enter the player setup and disable spectator mode?
14:01 <hang3r> No, I needed to disable spectator mode, I was just making you aware of the first perspective of someone new to AA
14:03 <hang3r> *How do I join* *How do I ask the other players how I join* *I can't find the chat key* *I cant find the key setup page*
14:04 <hang3r> etc
14:04 <hang3r> That was my line of thought
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14:06 <epsy> single player walkthrough may help with that, but for now, I don't have a clue
14:07 <hang3r> Not having a go at armagetron, I just felt like having a game (haven't played in over a year), downloaded and compiled the latest trunk from SVN at sourceforge, attempted to play and felt really lost
14:10 <hang3r> feedback is good, any new player at that stage would have almost given up, "too hard, plenty of other games, can't be bothered".
14:18 <z-man-work> hang3r: I can't reproduce the problem. If I enable the setting that doesn't allow you to play without experience on a server, enter it with lack of experience, then leave and start a local game, I play immediately.
14:19 <z-man-work> I suspect you must have instinctively (or my accident) pressed the "toggle spectator" key.
14:29 <epsy> "configure: error: conditional "AMDEP" was never defined."
14:29 <epsy> huh?
14:40 <epsy> happens in latest .2.8
14:48 <z-man-work> Odd, it's something automake does automatically. Don't ask me.
14:49 <epsy> and of course make distclean wants to run ./configure :(
14:54 <epsy> hmm; be back later
15:20 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8658 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Manuel Moos: Fixed compiler warnings.
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15:57 <TaZ> Hi
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16:04 <SageLord> heyo
16:04 <teabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r712 Fixed compiler warnings....
16:31 <epsy> bugmail is being..buggy
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17:17  * Lizmatic waves
17:17  * ct|kyle waves back
17:25  * SageLord-uni shrugs
17:26  * BabyBug cuddles Lizmatic 
17:39 <Monkey_arma> BabyBug akira_arma (and anyone else): http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Organised_Matches/Introduction
17:40  * BabyBug doesn't take part in organised matches
17:41 <SageLord-uni> :o
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17:49 <TaZ> Monkey_arma: Do you HR?
17:49  * Lizmatic waves at BabyBug
17:50 <BabyBug> =)
17:50 <Lizmatic> no she's stupid, she won't enter brawl
17:50 <Lizmatic> :P
17:50 <BabyBug> !!
17:50  * Lizmatic giggles.
17:50  * BabyBug tickles Lizmatic until she falls down a well
17:50 <Monkey_arma> TaZ No, I hate HR. I also hate infinite tails.
17:51 <Lizmatic> :D
17:51 <TaZ> aww
17:53 <TaZ> Monkey_arma: There is no such thing as an organized match.
17:53 <Monkey_arma> ?
17:54 <TaZ> organised*
17:55 <TaZ> nvm haha
17:55 <Monkey_arma> TaZ Wild West IQ test:
17:55 <Monkey_arma> "One of the purposes of these matches is to introduce new people to fortress. New people are very welcome."
17:55 <Monkey_arma> To edit the wiki, you will be asked a question about the colour of a cycle. The answer to the question is a colour beginning with the letter "R" and rhyming with "bed".
18:02 <TaZ> Purple?
18:02 <Monkey_arma> yes
18:03 <TaZ> :P
18:04 <TaZ> I meant to show this to epsy: http://vimeo.com/1778399
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18:10 <epsy> holy shit O_O
18:11 <epsy> why me btw?
18:11 <G5> Could be worse. Could be me! :)
18:12 <epsy> they are flying like a few centimeters away from the rock :x
18:13 <ct|kyle> what rockets
18:14 <G5> I donno what u r talking about
18:14 <ct|kyle> :P
18:15 <G5> But btw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lV-iP1jSMlI
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18:32 <madmax> those "fixed compiler warnings" are about gcc 4.3?
18:37 <BabyBug> http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/965/1049965/school-teacher-bans-linux
18:37 <BabyBug> americans...are...idiots....
18:38 <epsy> is that an assertion?
18:39 <BabyBug> No.
18:40 <epsy> :D
18:41 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: the would have done the same at my school if the saw me using it :P
18:41 <ct|kyle> they*
18:42 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, Your school would of thought your distributing illegal software and threating to call the police? O.o
18:43 <ct|kyle> probably, i broke soo many of the computer rules there :P never once got caught though
18:43 <BabyBug> and you're american....
18:43 <ct|kyle> i even installed gentoo at home during class :P
18:43 <ct|kyle> ya
18:43 <BabyBug> idiots..
18:44 <ct|kyle> ya
18:44 <sinewav> america makes me sad.
18:45 <ct|kyle> ya
18:45 <ct|kyle> sinewav: z-man fixed the bug that your server had :)
18:48 <sinewav> The incam bug? Sweet. Actually, I'm working on the racing server right now. Incam only, no shooting!
18:48 <sinewav> old skool
18:48 <sinewav> ;}
18:48 <ct|kyle> cool
18:48 <epsy> no "brake"-boosting?
18:48 <sinewav> brake = accel
18:49 <epsy> :(
18:49 <sinewav> well, I may do something like that later though!
18:50 <epsy> what sucks about race in armagetron is that it has litterally nothing to do with the game
18:50 <epsy> i mean, nothing from the original game is used, only newly implemented tactics made just for the race server
18:51 <BabyBug> Perhaps if you want to get more people playing arma though, you need more variation?
18:51 <epsy> is the goal of the project to have many players?
18:52 <epsy> the goal is to help people have fun in a game simillar to the lightcycles from the movie tron
18:52 <sinewav> No, I think arma is perfect. I see my race server as a sort of art project.
18:52 <sinewav> I mean YES
18:53 <sinewav> I consider racing a diversion
18:53 <epsy> this includes: walls make you accelerate, and when you hit a wall you die
18:53 <epsy> to achieve stuff you gotta kill stuff
18:53 <sinewav> touching walls is for noobs
18:53 <epsy> this is what arma is meant to be
18:53 <sinewav> I agree
18:54 <epsy> (oh, and to kill stuff you gotta have them run in your wall, of course)
18:54 <epsy> now, let's apply this to a race server
18:54 <epsy> in a race server, players should not interact
18:54 <BabyBug> Does rubber have any relevance to the tron movie?
18:54 <sinewav> haha
18:54 <epsy> so they aren't going to grind off other people's tail
18:55 <epsy> but wait..we got other kinds of walls, rim walls
18:55 <epsy> BabyBug, No.
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18:56 <epsy> ah, that was another assertion
18:56 <iccleoldme> ...
18:56 <epsy> <3
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18:57 <BabyBug> Did anyone answer the question about rubber after? =P
18:58 <epsy> [18:54] <BabyBug>: Does rubber have any relevance to the tron movie?
18:58 <epsy> [18:54] <sinewav>: haha
18:58 <epsy> [18:54] <epsy>: so they aren't going to grind off other people's tail
18:58 <epsy> [18:54] <epsy>: but wait..we got other kinds of walls, rim walls
18:58 <epsy> [18:55] <epsy>: BabyBug, No.
18:58 <sinewav> <--agrees with epsy, but insistes that his racing server is more of an art project and not a serious alternative to arma.
18:58 <BabyBug> ah, so it's there purely to sort lag?
18:58 <epsy> erm, fortress isn't an alternative to arma
18:58 <epsy> BabyBug, originally
18:59 <epsy> sinewav, have you looked at some quake-based gmae's race maps?
18:59 <epsy> some quake-base games' *
18:59 <sinewav> I don't know what quake is, sorry
19:00 <epsy> it's one of the predicators of the FPS genre
19:00 <sinewav> like doom?
19:00 <epsy> yeah
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19:01 <sinewav> are the race maps cool or lame?
19:01 <epsy> depends on the games, and on the maps themselves
19:01 <epsy> somes are really awesome, and yet, you still have to use regular movement techniques
19:01 <BabyBug> So when arma gonna have the abilty to have multiple floors on a map =D
19:01 <BabyBug> when is*
19:01  * sinewav hardly knows anything about video games :(
19:02 <epsy> so you can have art'ish maps while keeping normal playing techniques
19:02 <epsy> BabyBug, probably not going to have that
19:02 <BabyBug> awwwww that sucks
19:03 <BabyBug> bikes that jump?
19:03 <sinewav> so, could arma-racing be cool if the cycles had walls? because I was thinking about that too...
19:03 <epsy> never, and that's 100% sure
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19:03 <sinewav> ramps and flying!
19:03 <epsy> no, as said earlier, two racing players should not interact
19:03 <sinewav> oh yeah...
19:04 <BabyBug> So no jumping bikes...No multiple floors...What actually is planned in terms of improving game play? =D
19:04 <sinewav> Well anyway, my race server is a failure. I just keep it up to look at.
19:04 <epsy> BabyBug, proper gametype handling
19:05 <ct|kyle> at least it has better maps than dd
19:05 <BabyBug> epsy, meaning.....
19:05 <epsy> BabyBug, adding gametypes!
19:05 <epsy> and have them look hawt
19:05 <BabyBug> There's already different gametypes ><
19:05 <epsy> nope
19:06 <BabyBug> what do you call fortress...sumo...ctf...etc etc...
19:06 <epsy> fortress and sumo are based on stuff that is considered as hacks
19:06 <epsy> and you don't have any notion of gametype in arma
19:06 <sinewav> kyle: yeah, my maps took sevral days to make, not sevral minutes!
19:06 <epsy> ctf etc etc are server hacks
19:07 <epsy> did you ever play ctf in armagetron? there are barely circles represending flags and bases
19:07 <epsy> representing*
19:07 <epsy> do you think that looks any good, and has a little more value than a hack?
19:08 <BabyBug> looks good no...But looking good doesn't improve game play imo
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19:09 <epsy> tell me BabyBug, except hacking stuff weirdly etc, how does one add a new "gametype", as of today?
19:10 <epsy> otherwise, define "gameplay improvement"
19:11 <epsy> because seriousely, regarding basic gameplay, there is really nothing that sucks
19:11 <ct|kyle> http://www.snotr.com/video/1938
19:11 <BabyBug> You're missing the point completely...I talking from the perspective of someone who's playing tron, don't care how it's implemented as long as it's there. So is there going to be anything completely new in terms of features that a user can see except looks...not a coder or a person who runs a server..
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19:11 <dlh> From a user's point of view, there are different game modes. They may be crude, but there are different point.
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19:12 <dlh> are different modes*
19:14 <Ady-Lucifer> Im sure if you pay for it theres gonna be lots of new things :)
19:14 <epsy> BabyBug, singleplayer walkthrough
19:14 <Ady-Lucifer> hahah
19:15 <Ady-Lucifer> Someday we should add a 3rd axis so weve got <x,y,z>
19:15 <epsy> no we should not
19:15 <Ady-Lucifer> In the future
19:15 <Ady-Lucifer> 2015
19:15 <epsy> armagetron is a 2D game rendered in 3D
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19:16 <epsy> so players don't have a z coordinate
19:16 <sinewav> Arma need no z axis. silly talk!
19:16 <Ady-Lucifer> I want to climb hills and such!
19:16 <epsy> that's 2d, as long as nothing goes under you
19:17 <sinewav> wait until the TR2N game for hills
19:17 <epsy> and players that do not die
19:18  * BabyBug thinks the devs are far too closed minded
19:18 <epsy> we are not
19:18 <epsy> we have a project, and we aren't going to be doing things just because it sounds cool
19:19 <epsy> there are 3D Worm games out there, so if you want that, grab it
19:20 <sinewav> don't confuse "closed minded" with "focused" ;-)
19:23  * BabyBug isn't confusing them x)
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19:24 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: why do you even care :P, you said you were going to quit sometime :P
19:24 <Lizmatic> babybug isnt gonna quit <3
19:24 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, I don't care i'm just bored =)
19:25 <ct|kyle> Lizmatic: make BabyBug have another kid :P
19:25 <Lizmatic> I'll give her mine, haha
19:25 <BabyBug> ...
19:26 <Lizmatic> xD
19:27 <BabyBug> </3 Lizmatic
19:27 <luke-jr> wee
19:27  * ct|kyle cuddles Lizmatic
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19:27  * luke-jr just rolled out an upgrade for his hosted customers to easier allow multiple Arma services
19:28 <BabyBug> luke-jr, how many "customers" do you actually have? :P
19:28  * sinewav is a customer
19:28  * Lizmatic cries at BabyBug
19:28 <BabyBug> Nuuu don't cry Lizmatic =( *smooch*
19:29 <luke-jr> sinewav: u see? ☺
19:29 <luke-jr> BabyBug: I'd have to count, not too many.
19:29 <sinewav> not yet...
19:29 <luke-jr> sinewav: login without a /bla
19:29 <luke-jr> /bla forces that service
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19:31 <Lizmatic> sagelawddd
19:32 <Ady-Lucifer> Lucifer, how much per month?
19:32 <Ady-Lucifer> ups
19:32 <Ady-Lucifer> luke-jr,
19:33 <luke-jr> Ady-Lucifer: ?
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19:34 <luke-jr> current prices are at http://lightfoot.dashjr.org/ (on special, too!)
19:34 <luke-jr> I've been pondering moving to a bandwidth-based plan though.
19:34 <luke-jr> or at least offering one
19:35 <luke-jr> in which case, I want to make it as easy as possible and automated for anyone to setup any number of servers ☺
19:36 <luke-jr> but it will only be worth putting the work into it if I get more customers :/
19:36 <BabyBug> luke-jr, you do website design aswell?
19:36 <luke-jr> cuz I'll need to automate deposits, shutdown-on-0-balance, etc
19:36 <luke-jr> BabyBug: I can.
19:37 <luke-jr> but I'd recommend someone else for actual design
19:37 <luke-jr> my designs tend to be very simple ☺
19:37 <BabyBug> luke-jr, Got a portfolio? or just anything you'd done?
19:37 <luke-jr> http://lightfoot.dashjr.org/ ? :þ
19:37 <BabyBug> Hrmm..someone needs to work on a sales pitch xD
19:37 <luke-jr> <.<
19:37 <BabyBug> who would you recommend?
19:38 <luke-jr> not sure :o
19:38 <BabyBug> ><
19:38 <luke-jr> the problem is most designers try to implement too
19:38 <luke-jr> and do a crappy job at implementing
19:38 <BabyBug> implement?
19:38 <luke-jr> making it HTML/CSS/etc
19:39 <BabyBug> oo
19:39 <luke-jr> implementation, I can definately do good :þ
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19:40 <luke-jr> I just need a design to implement.
19:40 <luke-jr> btw, did you hear they got an organic port of Linux booting on a potato?
19:40 <luke-jr> http://www.bbspot.com/News/2008/12/linux-on-a-potato.html
19:41 <epsy> yeah, it's the same guys that made it work on a thunderstorm
19:41 <luke-jr> epsy: omfg rly⁈
19:41 <epsy> yeah, but the uptimes sucked
19:41 <luke-jr> lol
19:42 <luke-jr> hmm
19:42  * luke-jr ponders <.<
19:42 <epsy> haha luke :D
19:43 <luke-jr> would anyone kill me if I added a major feature to Arma and didn't release the code? XD
19:43 <epsy> as long as you don't release the binary it's legally fine
19:43  * luke-jr is thinking AJAX client
19:43 <luke-jr> allow people to play in their browser on servers I host :o
19:44 <luke-jr> hrm
19:44 <luke-jr> I don't think it would justify the time put into it
19:45 <BabyBug> you would what..have a whole 5 users? =P
19:45 <epsy> I think that's locking in to bad technologies
19:45 <luke-jr> lol epsy
19:45 <luke-jr> AJAX is here to stay
19:45 <epsy> HTTP is too slow for that
19:45 <epsy> it is, but networked AJAX arcade games are probably not going to work out well
19:46 <luke-jr> yeah
19:46 <luke-jr> maybe Java
19:46 <luke-jr> but that'd be even more work
19:46 <epsy> but remember that almost every computer out there can run java
19:46 <luke-jr> that's why I said maybe Java
19:46 <luke-jr> :þ
19:47 <ct|kyle> java sucks
19:47 <epsy> and by computer I mean everything that has a process unit
19:47 <epsy> but java sux :(
19:47 <luke-jr> ActiveX!
19:47 <ct|kyle> lol
19:47  * luke-jr runs
19:47 <epsy> luke-jr, for that one you will be killed
19:47 <ct|kyle> python :P
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19:47 <luke-jr> epsy: gotta catch me first
19:48 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: pointless, Python can't run in a browser
19:48 <epsy> ]catch me your owner
19:48 <luke-jr> btw, did you hear Google reinvented ActiveX for Chrome
19:48 <epsy> wtf does that even mean?
19:48 <luke-jr> they basically did the same thing and called it something else
19:48 <luke-jr> now they're pushing it like it's the hot new thing
19:48 <luke-jr> Native Browsing or something along those lines
19:48 <epsy> like, wtf?
19:48 <luke-jr> webpages are EXEs
19:49 <epsy> how are they going to make it work on osx and linux?
19:49 <epsy> moreover, how aren't they going to be sued by microsoft?
19:49 <luke-jr> who cares?
19:49 <epsy> me?
19:49 <luke-jr> Google doesn't care about OSX and Linux
19:50 <luke-jr> http://code.google.com/p/nativeclient/
19:50 <luke-jr> apparently it does support Linux and Mac
19:50 <luke-jr> wtf
19:51 <epsy> their quake demo will be obsoleted :P
19:52 <epsy> luke-jr, it's python
19:52 <luke-jr> epsy: ⁇?
19:52 <epsy> http://nativeclient.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/nacl/googleclient/native_client/documentation/getting_started.html
19:52 <luke-jr> you mean there's python scripts
19:53 <luke-jr> irrelevant
19:53 <epsy> I guess their stuff are python scripts
19:53 <luke-jr> test stuff*
19:55 <epsy> that stuff looks nice anyway
19:56  * luke-jr burps at epsy
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20:03 <Lizmatic> disconnectwtf00k
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20:07 <epsy> zmanuel, r950 introduced that AMDEP error
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20:24 <SageLord-uni> one exam today down... one more to go
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20:37 <epsy> :)
20:39 <SageLord-uni> xP
20:40 <Ady-Lucifer> Vista
20:40 <Lizmatic> <Mac!
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20:40 <epsy> OS/2
20:40 <Ady-Lucifer> <ms-dos
20:40 <Ady-Lucifer> o.O
20:41 <ct|kyle> Ady-Lucifer: http://www.snotr.com/video/1938 <<vista
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20:42 <SageLord-uni> o:
20:42 <SageLord-uni> mac?
20:42 <SageLord-uni> hmm... no wonder...
20:42 <Lizmatic> fuck you sage
20:42 <Lizmatic> :<
20:43 <SageLord-uni> ;)
20:43 <Ady-Lucifer> hahaha ct|kyle
20:43 <Ady-Lucifer> CeMeNT
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20:50 <epsy> blaaah
20:50 <SageLord-uni> hrm?
20:50 <epsy> stupid autohell :((
20:50 <SageLord-uni> autohell?  that doesn't sound good at all
20:51 <SageLord-uni> usually people like to think they have a chance somewhere else
20:51 <epsy> well there's no way Cmakes makes it into .2.8
20:52 <SageLord-uni> that doesn't sound good...
20:52 <SageLord-uni> what are Cmakes again?
20:52 <SageLord-uni> just to... ya know, refresh my memory
20:52 <epsy> so there's no chances to use anything but autotools which are .. uhm .. ????
20:53 <epsy> cmake does everything but what GNU make does
20:53 <SageLord-uni> oh yea... that...
20:54 <luke-jr> #armaconfig POLYGONAL_SHAPE_USED_EVER
20:54 <armabot> luke-jr: Sorry, no matches :S
20:54 <epsy> basically, it does everything needed to the point of producing Makefiles/iCode project/other files
20:54 <epsy> err
20:54 <epsy> xcode
20:55 <luke-jr> …
20:55 <luke-jr> #armaconfig CYCLE_SPEED_DECAY_ABOVE
20:55 <armabot> luke-jr: CYCLE_SPEED_DECAY_ABOVE: Rate of cycle speed approaching the value of CYCLE_SPEED from above (default: 0.1) || CYCLE_SPEED_DECAY_ABOVE_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_SPEED_DECAY_ABOVE differs from its default? (default: 3)
20:56 <luke-jr> is that one missing in trunk?
20:56 <luke-jr> O.o
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21:01 <Lizmatic> lol
21:01 <Lizmatic> o/
21:03 <BabyBug> \o
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21:16 <cusco> bling
21:16 <epsy> b&w
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21:22 <K-Yo> epsy, can we get a new line on a PLAYER_MESSAGE?
21:22 <epsy> perhaps \n ?
21:22 <K-Yo> doesn't work
21:23 <epsy> give me an urxvt then
21:23 <K-Yo> urvxt?
21:23 <K-Yo> urxvt?
21:24 <K-Yo> .g urxvt
21:24 <tronner> K-Yo: http://software.schmorp.de/pkg/rxvt-unicode.html - rxvt-unicode
21:26 <epsy> did you try using quotes?
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21:34 <epsy> K-Yo?
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21:40 <K-Yo> epsy, quotes?
21:41 <K-Yo> you mean player_message "blah blah\nhehehe" ?
21:42 <K-Yo> epsy, in that case, it still does not work
21:43 <epsy> mind if quotes are forced?
21:44 <epsy> er, more like PLAYER_MESSAGE thatotherdude "this is a line\nthis is a new line!"
21:44 <luke-jr> fail
21:47 <K-Yo> indeed
21:47 <epsy> and does it work like this?
21:49 <K-Yo> epsy, http://crazy-tronners.com/screenshots/
21:49 <K-Yo> epsy, http://crazy-tronners.com/screenshots/screenshot_178.png
21:50 <epsy> well, it's in for my next commit, but quotes will be forced
21:50 <K-Yo> means without quotes it won't work?
21:50 <epsy> will cut at first word
21:50 <K-Yo> okay
21:50 <K-Yo> we'll have to change our parsers then :P
21:51 <epsy> I guess this isn't much of a problem since the main user of these are logparsers
21:51 <K-Yo> yeah
21:51 <epsy> well, don't you have _one_ call to PM a player?
21:52 <K-Yo> nope
21:52 <epsy> bad bad bad
21:52 <epsy> do it!
21:52 <K-Yo> we also have all the /cmd
21:52 <K-Yo> hmm
21:52 <K-Yo> their all too different
21:53 <K-Yo> that's to put in the looong todo list :P
21:53 <epsy> where is "clean it up" in the todo list?
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21:54 <K-Yo> hmmmm, more or less in everyline :P
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21:54 <BabyBug> Flex!!
21:55 <Lizmatic> no
21:55 <Lizmatic> !!!!
21:55 <Lizmatic> LOL
21:55 <BabyBug> ROFL
21:55 <epsy> K-Yo, holy shit.. :|
21:55 <Flex> what?
21:56 <BabyBug> Nevermind :)
21:56 <Flex> no.. tell me
21:56 <BabyBug> No ><
21:56 <Lizmatic> haha
21:56 <Lizmatic> :x
21:56  * Lizmatic coughs
21:56 <Flex> lol, wth come on
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21:57 <Flex> Lizmatic, hey you.. what!?!
21:57 <Lizmatic> I didn't do nothing
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21:57 <BabyBug> =)
21:57 <SageLord-uni> O_o
21:58 <epsy> so you actually did somehting!
21:58 <Flex> BabyBug, if you don't tell me.. i'm never going to speak to you again!
21:58 <BabyBug> Flex, about time =)
21:58 <Lizmatic> pwned
21:59 <SageLord-uni> haha
22:00 <SageLord-uni> i have no idea who babybug is, but i like him/her
22:00 <BabyBug> her =)
22:00 <SageLord-uni> haha
22:01 <Lizmatic> she's my online lesbian lover..
22:01 <SageLord-uni> awesome, i'm loving irc more and more
22:01 <BabyBug> =D
22:01 <SageLord-uni> haha
22:01  * Lizmatic lold
22:01 <Flex> pff, about time? that's what i always wanted..
22:02 <Ady-Lucifer> i'm lesbian too!
22:02 <epsy> with ady-pussyfer?
22:02 <Ady-Lucifer> can i join the party? :)
22:02 <Flex> if you bring your mother
22:02 <Ady-Lucifer> LOL
22:02 <SageLord-uni> lol
22:03 <SageLord-uni> whew, should not laugh so loud at the library...
22:03 <SageLord-uni> :s
22:04 <Ady-Lucifer> maybe i should bring my grandma too
22:04 <SageLord-uni> hmm, i was about to make a joke in poor taste...  took all of my willpower to stop it
22:05 <Ady-Lucifer> :O
22:05 <epsy> hmm
22:06 <SageLord-uni> </conversation>
22:06 <Lizmatic> ady, you're not a lesbian, you're just gay
22:06 <epsy> ah, kewl, players in café
22:06 <epsy> gotta grab some shots
22:08 <Ady-Lucifer> Lizmatic, i'm lesbian, i like girls
22:09 <Monkey_arma> Ady-Lucifer http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Organised_Matches
22:09 <Ady-Lucifer> Monkey_arma, i've seen that just dont get whats it all about
22:10 <Ady-Lucifer> is it like playing arma on café just that at prearranged  times?
22:10 <Monkey_arma> Yeh it's a tough one. I thought for while then realised it was about matches....that are organised. I read the introduction and it said that they are regular. I deduced from this that they are ....regular, organised matches
22:11 <Ady-Lucifer> Interesting, more than that i'd  like to know if the community would like to make another international competition like 2 years ago, in which a team is a country
22:11 <Monkey_arma> There is also sagelord's idea
22:11 <Monkey_arma> which is:
22:12 <Monkey_arma> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Competition_Hub
22:12 <Monkey_arma> The top one in that
22:12 <Monkey_arma> if you want to edit the wiki, btw, the answer to the question it will ask you, about what colour the cycle is, is "red"
22:12 <Ady-Lucifer> its basically another ladle
22:13 <Ady-Lucifer> yeah i've heard about :)
22:13 <Monkey_arma> its a ladle but with mixed teams
22:13 <SageLord-uni> ady :)
22:13 <Ady-Lucifer> hi
22:13 <SageLord-uni> S:
22:14 <Monkey_arma> and signups have a deadline that is earlier
22:16 <Ady-Lucifer> i'm not much into tournaments :S
22:16 <SageLord-uni> ):
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22:19 <TaZ_> Hi
22:19 <SageLord-uni> high five for mibbit users
22:19  * TaZ_ high fives SageLord-uni
22:19 <SageLord-uni> :D
22:19 <TaZ_> :)
22:19  * SageLord-uni high fives TaZ_ 
22:19 <Ady-Lucifer> SageLord, what are you studyin
22:20 <TaZ_> Excuse me, Lucifer.
22:20 <SageLord-uni> electrical engineering
22:20 <TaZ_> Me too!
22:20 <SageLord-uni> have a test in t-minus 1 hour 40 minutes, over computer programming (C, Fortran, C++)
22:20 <SageLord-uni> :/
22:20 <Ady-Lucifer> :)
22:20 <luke-jr> ∴∴∴∴
22:20 <TaZ_> C sucks
22:20 <Ady-Lucifer> thats easy lol!
22:20 <SageLord-uni> pfft
22:20 <SageLord-uni> C is easy
22:20 <luke-jr> C++ sucks
22:20 <TaZ_> What year are you?
22:20 <SageLord-uni> C++ sucks
22:20 <TaZ_> pssh, C++ is easier than C noobs
22:20 <Ady-Lucifer> cout << "LOL" <<endl;
22:21 <SageLord-uni> in my junior
22:21 <SageLord-uni> year
22:21 <luke-jr> puts("LOL")
22:21 <luke-jr> ;
22:21 <SageLord-uni> haha
22:21 <TaZ_> shut up luke-jr
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22:21 <luke-jr> so f u Ady-Lucifer
22:21 <luke-jr> :þ
22:21 <Ady-Lucifer> luke-jr, ?
22:21 <SageLord-uni> the C++ portion is only 5%
22:21 <SageLord-uni> so i barely studied it
22:21 <TaZ_> Same here too SageLord-uni
22:21 <SageLord-uni> cool taz
22:21 <TaZ_> Next year..Senior Project :D
22:21 <luke-jr> actually, C++ is getting tempting these days
22:22 <SageLord-uni> haha yea
22:22 <luke-jr> especially the namespace stuff
22:22 <SageLord-uni> gonna be cool :)
22:22 <TaZ_> yep :)
22:22 <epsy> you mean php?
22:22 <SageLord-uni> hrm, i don't know much about C++
22:22 <Ady-Lucifer> windoze.bat << ''format c:\''
22:22 <SageLord-uni> i'm taking a full C++ class next semester i think
22:22 <TaZ_> ah
22:22 <luke-jr> Ady-Lucifer is hereby retarded!
22:22 <SageLord-uni> oop ftw?  hopefully?
22:22 <TaZ_> Ady-Lucifer = Lucifer?
22:23 <SageLord-uni> i need to learn how tron works so i can do stuff with it :p
22:23 <Ady-Lucifer> luke-jr, O, rly?
22:23 <SageLord-uni> TaZ_: nope
22:23 <luke-jr> Lucifer = Lucifer
22:23 <TaZ_> Same here Sagelord-uni, but luke-jr won't teach me.
22:23 <Ady-Lucifer> Ady-Lucifer != Lucifer
22:23 <luke-jr> …
22:23 <luke-jr> Armagetron is C++
22:23 <TaZ_> I thought so, you didn't seem like a douche like lucifer.
22:23 <luke-jr> #svn
22:23 <armabot> svn co https://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad <dirname>(more information: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Working_with_SVN)
22:24 <SageLord-uni> yea i was about to say, isn't there somewhere that you can read on it
22:24 <luke-jr> that's how; go learn
22:24 <TaZ_> I only know C though...
22:24 <luke-jr> TaZ_: so use C
22:24 <TaZ_> Ok
22:24 <luke-jr> C++ is backward compatible mostly
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22:24 <SageLord-uni> 15:20	TaZ_	pssh, C++ is easier than C noobs
22:24 <luke-jr> the resource system is pretty much C
22:24 <SageLord-uni> O_o
22:24 <epsy> huh?
22:24 <TaZ_> :D
22:24 <luke-jr> heh
22:24 <TaZ_> But for real..C++ is easier...
22:25 <luke-jr> no
22:25 <luke-jr> C is easier for simple stuff
22:25 <TaZ_> pssh
22:25 <luke-jr> C++ is easier for inherently OO stuff
22:25 <SageLord-uni> linked lists ftw?
22:25 <SageLord-uni> :/
22:25 <TaZ_> =D
22:25 <luke-jr> that is one thing I dislike about C
22:25 <luke-jr> it has no primitives for lists or hashes
22:26 <TaZ_> Eh, I'm going to learn  Java next year.
22:26 <SageLord-uni> i don't really have much to compare C to
22:26 <luke-jr> Java sucks
22:26 <TaZ_> lol
22:26 <SageLord-uni> did a little java in hs
22:26 <TaZ_> Worth learning though
22:26 <SageLord-uni> but other than that, i've done matlab and that's it
22:26 <SageLord-uni> well other than C obviously
22:26 <TaZ_> ah
22:27 <luke-jr> hey
22:27 <TaZ_> what
22:27 <luke-jr> I just thought of a nice little idea for C
22:27 <luke-jr> that woudl make it a little better
22:27 <luke-jr> using the stack for a list XD
22:27 <epsy> what does better mean? :P
22:27 <luke-jr> it would need to be the last thing in the scope, and couldn't be changed inside new scopes
22:27 <luke-jr> epsy: do you know what the stack is?
22:28 <epsy> bt?
22:28 <luke-jr> …
22:28 <luke-jr> lol
22:28 <luke-jr> ok
22:28 <luke-jr> so you have a function
22:28 <luke-jr> what does this line do:
22:28 <luke-jr> int i;
22:28 <Ady-Lucifer> LOL
22:28 <TaZ_> yea
22:28 <luke-jr> actually, better example:
22:28 <luke-jr> char buf[256];
22:28 <Ady-Lucifer> it charges a buffalo at 256 pounds
22:29 <luke-jr> /kick Ady-Lucifer
22:29 <luke-jr> epsy: so? what does that do? :þ
22:29 <TaZ_> lolz
22:29 <SageLord-uni> hha
22:29 <epsy> well, that gives enough memory for putting 256 latin9 characters in buf
22:29 <luke-jr> epsy: memory where?
22:30 <epsy> in the freaking ram?!
22:30 <luke-jr> ROFL
22:30 <TaZ_> lol
22:30 <luke-jr> it's not malloc'd
22:30 <SageLord-uni> hahaha
22:31 <luke-jr> each thread has what is called a stack
22:31 <luke-jr> which is basically a chunk of memory
22:31  * SageLord-uni is looking at a malloc/calloc powerpoint slide now
22:31 <luke-jr> that holds info about what functions are running
22:31 <TaZ_> haha
22:31 <luke-jr> inside what, etc
22:31 <epsy> ah, scopes?
22:31 <luke-jr> it also holds scoped variables
22:31 <SageLord-uni> hmm, i'm sleepy
22:32 <SageLord-uni> maybe i'll sleep through my exam
22:32 <TaZ_> SageLord-uni, join my clan.
22:32 <SageLord-uni> that sounds nice
22:32 <TaZ_> xD
22:32 <SageLord-uni> lol?
22:32 <SageLord-uni> what clan
22:32 <luke-jr> so bascially, 'char buf[256];' moves the stack pointer back 256 bytes, and the compiler refers to that position of the stack as 'buf'
22:32 <fonkay> Lucifer: Me being icky, or you thinking I am?
22:32 <TaZ_> VcL
22:32 <SageLord-uni> i'm in a clan already, but just curious what clan
22:32 <SageLord-uni> ah
22:32 <luke-jr> TaZ_: wtf, you have a server with me? :þ
22:32 <epsy> @tea
22:32 <teabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (9/32): akira (akira@forums), BabyBug, DaJollyLlama, Desolate (Desolate@forums), epsy¦×¦, Flex, hoop (hoop@forums), ¦×¦ Hoax, ¦×¦ Lizmatic
22:32 <SageLord-uni> O:
22:33 <SageLord-uni> @tea
22:33 <teabot> SageLord-uni: Fortress Café: Players (10/32): akira (akira@forums), BabyBug, DaJollyLlama, Desolate (Desolate@forums), epsy¦×¦, Flex, hoop (hoop@forums), MaZuffeR, ¦×¦ Hoax, ¦×¦ Lizmatic
22:33 <SageLord-uni> cool :)
22:33 <luke-jr> liar
22:33 <SageLord-uni> what does that do, find the server with the most people on irc?
22:33 <luke-jr> no
22:33 <epsy> need moar players for a nice split screenshot
22:33 <luke-jr> it's tea
22:33 <SageLord-uni> huh?
22:33 <luke-jr> #si -v lightfoot
22:33 <epsy> which is there for fortress café, obviousely
22:33 <armabot> luke-jr: Lightfoot Hosting Demo Server (UK) ( running 0.2.8_alpha20080122 unix dedicated, url: http://lightfoot.dashjr.org/demo.php, Description: “Web control panel password is 'demo'“, Players (0/4):
22:34 <TaZ_> yea luk
22:34 <TaZ_> luke-jr
22:34 <SageLord-uni> taz, do you play fortress?
22:34 <TaZ_> Yes
22:34 <SageLord-uni> you should sign up for fortress brawl
22:34 <SageLord-uni> its a new tournament
22:34  * luke-jr builds a fortress on TaZ_'s chinny chin chin
22:34 <TaZ_> Ilinky link?
22:34 <TaZ_> :>
22:34 <luke-jr> TaZ_: your clan's server uses a lot of bandwidth
22:35 <SageLord-uni> http://twisted-rats.co.cc/forum/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=47
22:35 <TaZ_> I play all servers though
22:35 <luke-jr> 312 MB in the past day or two
22:35 <SageLord-uni> actually
22:35 <SageLord-uni> http://twisted-rats.co.cc/brawl
22:35 <SageLord-uni> is a better link
22:35 <TaZ_> ooo, you're in that clan..
22:35 <TaZ_> :D
22:35 <SageLord-uni> yup yup
22:35 <luke-jr> SageLord-uni: Twisted Rats should reactivate their servers :x
22:35 <SageLord-uni> hmm?
22:35 <luke-jr> appa and xfroggy got servers w/ me
22:35 <luke-jr> then discontinued them
22:35 <luke-jr> :/
22:35 <SageLord-uni> how much does it cost
22:36 <TaZ_> :/
22:36 <luke-jr> http://lightfoot.dashjr.org/
22:36 <luke-jr> tho I am considering a bandwidth-based plan
22:37 <TaZ_> Thanks SageLord-uni
22:37 <SageLord-uni> hmm
22:37 <SageLord-uni> i might look into that, idk if i have the funds to spend on a server per month like that
22:37 <SageLord-uni> i'll talk to durka/goody to see if they might want to go halvsies/thirdsies
22:37 <SageLord-uni> we'll see
22:38 <TaZ_> And btw luke-jr, Pinktomatos loved my server idea.
22:38 <SageLord-uni> hmm, taz?
22:38 <TaZ_> I was saying thanks for the link
22:39 <SageLord-uni> oh np, hopefully thanks for signing up :P
22:39 <TaZ_> :P
22:39 <SageLord-uni> eventually at least :)
22:39 <SageLord-uni> i don't know the ins and outs of servers and how to run them yet
22:39 <SageLord-uni> nor do i know admin commands and such and such etc
22:39 <SageLord-uni> i'll do some reading this christmas
22:40 <TaZ_> The wiki tells you everything
22:40 <luke-jr> SageLord-uni: yeah, part of why I'm thinking about a bandwidth-based plan
22:40 <SageLord-uni> yes, but i haven't read it
22:40 <luke-jr> so it'd be maybe $10 up front setup cost, and after that you deposit however much you want
22:40 <SageLord-uni> hmm all right
22:41 <luke-jr> and if the balance goes to 0 it turns off the server
22:41 <SageLord-uni> did you figure out what happened to your server for the ladle?
22:41 <luke-jr> dunno, the config I guess
22:41 <luke-jr> happened to other servers w/ the same config I heard
22:41 <luke-jr> and stuff is fine w/ other servers I host
22:41 <SageLord-uni> hmm interesting
22:41 <SageLord-uni> all right
22:42 <luke-jr> Durka should find the bug his config triggers :þ
22:42 <SageLord-uni> like ww?
22:42 <luke-jr> dunno, was it WW?
22:42 <SageLord-uni> hmm, all right
22:42 <luke-jr> I really didn't do anything with the Ladle
22:42 <SageLord-uni> haha, yea i guess :p
22:42 <SageLord-uni> maybe, not sure
22:42 <luke-jr> Durka just asked me last minute to use the server
22:42 <luke-jr> XD
22:46 <SageLord-uni> TaZ_: does vcl have its own forum?
22:46 <TaZ_> Yes
22:46 <TaZ_> vclclan.com
22:47 <TaZ_> Please register. :)
22:47 <SageLord-uni> are there several fortress players in your clan?
22:47 <SageLord-uni> of course :)
22:48  * luke-jr never understood the obsession with registrations for forums
22:50 <SageLord-uni> hmm
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22:59 <luke-jr> hm, possible problem if I move to a metered solution :o
23:00 <luke-jr> people are less apt to volunteer their servers for events like the Ladle and such
23:00 <SageLord-uni> yea thats true
23:00 <SageLord-uni> i'm ready to get this exam over with
23:00 <luke-jr> maybe I should price it so I can do stuff like "Ladle sponsors get $5 credit"
23:00 <SageLord-uni> then i can do absolutely nothing
23:01 <luke-jr> or smth
23:01 <SageLord-uni> 16:00	luke-jr	people are less apt to volunteer their servers for events like the Ladle and such
23:01 <SageLord-uni> well
23:01 <SageLord-uni> it depends i think
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23:01 <SageLord-uni> if their server isn't well known, and they are paying by bandwidth
23:01 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: what do you think
23:01 <SageLord-uni> they might JUST use it for ladles and competitions
23:01 <SageLord-uni> that way they pay less than normal costs
23:02 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: is pricing by bandwidth a threat to events like the Ladle?
23:02 <luke-jr> SageLord-uni: true
23:02 <SageLord-uni> it could be a good way to get more servers for competitions
23:02 <SageLord-uni> but in that way, you wouldn't make as much money lol
23:02 <luke-jr> :/
23:02 <BabyBug> \o/
23:02 <luke-jr> well, I suppose worst case I can just up my prices a little and offer incentives to hosting events
23:02 <SageLord-uni> :)
23:03 <luke-jr> but then I need to define a criteria for what qualifies as an event
23:03 <luke-jr> or I'll get "clan war!" events all the time
23:03 <SageLord-uni> haha
23:03 <TaZ_> lol
23:03 <SageLord-uni> i think events are pretty standard
23:03 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: are you removing completely the the current player model?
23:03 <luke-jr> maybe they need to be open to all players, not just a set group(s)
23:03 <SageLord-uni> things that take a while to organize, i don't think you should include clan wars in your model
23:03 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: not planning to, no
23:03 <SageLord-uni> but idk
23:04 <luke-jr> I really probably shouldn't spend any more time on the bandwidth model until I hear it will improve business.
23:04 <PinkTomato> maybe you could do sponser a server for events
23:04 <SageLord-uni> haha
23:04 <luke-jr> I can't afford to waste time on stuff that won't bring in anything
23:04 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: ?
23:05 <PinkTomato> Like a 1-2 day server, for like $5 for the event
23:05 <luke-jr> well, the bandwidth-based stuff would ideally allow customers to have any number of servers and slots
23:05 <SageLord-uni> don't you think $5 is too steep of a price for that?
23:05 <PinkTomato> actualyl yeah probably :)
23:05 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: once, I had AFL-specific packages
23:06 <PinkTomato> well maybe you could inclue 1/2 week before
23:06 <luke-jr> $16 got the smallest AFL package
23:06 <PinkTomato> and then the purchaser could use it for practice
23:06 <luke-jr> including all home games and 5 practice games
23:06 <SageLord-uni> hmm
23:06 <luke-jr> I get the feeling I just need to reduce my prices somehow
23:06 <TaZ_> :/
23:06 <luke-jr> the numbers look too big
23:07 <luke-jr> maybe instead of a $10 setup fee, $5 setup + $1 setup per server
23:07 <luke-jr> hmm
23:08 <PinkTomato> non-peak time discount?
23:08 <luke-jr> well, that doesn't make the numbers smaller
23:09 <luke-jr> 2 cents per MB is pretty small
23:09 <luke-jr> leaving the setup fee the big #
23:09 <PinkTomato> personally though, the possibly variance in fee, it would scare me to recieve a large bill
23:10 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: it would be strictly pre-pay
23:10 <luke-jr> when they hit $0 balance, the server shuts off
23:10 <luke-jr> until a deposit is made
23:10 <luke-jr> so nobody would ever get a large bill :þ
23:10 <PinkTomato> ah a nice way of doing it :)
23:10 <luke-jr> and it would make donation-based efforts easier
23:10 <luke-jr> I could include a PayPal Donate button that made deposits directly
23:11 <SageLord-uni> thats cool
23:11 <SageLord-uni> for people that may want to donate for the server?
23:11 <luke-jr> yeah
23:12 <SageLord-uni> thats a good idea
23:12 <luke-jr> would probably have a hourly cronjob check balances
23:12 <luke-jr> if under $5 left, send an email and (optionally) announce in the server an estimated shutdown time
23:12 <luke-jr> if under $1 left, stop the server until a deposit is made
23:12 <luke-jr> (can't wait for flat $0 easily)
23:13 <luke-jr> actually, I could *probably* setup an iptables rule at the $1 marker, but that'd be pretty complex and not disconnect people gracefully
23:16 <luke-jr> hm
23:16 <luke-jr> aabeta going intermittant for maintenance!
23:17 <luke-jr> :þ
23:17 <PinkTomato> pay by hour?
23:18 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: eh?
23:18 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: no, it would just check balances every hour
23:18 <luke-jr> see which servers were low, which are getting turned off
23:18 <PinkTomato> no i mean a pay per hour server,
23:18 <luke-jr> O.o
23:18 <PinkTomato> a bit more expensive than other packages
23:18 <SageLord-uni> all right guys gotta go take my test, cya later
23:18 <luke-jr> seems pointless
23:18 <TaZ_> Good Luck
23:18 <TaZ_> Cya
23:18 <PinkTomato> nope
23:18 <SageLord-uni> thanks :)
23:19 <PinkTomato> I'm pretty sure some clans might want a private server for practice
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23:19 <PinkTomato> but generally not online 24/7
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23:19 <PinkTomato> it's a new market not being done and your current packages don't suit it
23:20 <luke-jr> per-MB would be close enough
23:21 <PinkTomato> per-MB is pretty techy you should specify what that is == per hour
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23:29 <epsy> prepaid hosting ftw :P
23:29 <PinkTomato> that's true :)
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23:29 <PinkTomato> instant money and people like it
23:29 <luke-jr> epsy: ?
23:29 <luke-jr> [16:20:14] <luke-jr> per-MB would be close enough
23:29 <luke-jr> that was the last I saw
23:30 <PinkTomato> you didn't miss anything
23:30 <PinkTomato> :)
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23:36  * BabyBug pokes the channel
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23:36 <epsy> [23:32] <+epsy>: http://epsy.teamkilled.net:8080/~epsy/screenshots/arma-team/screenshot_1091.png
23:36 <epsy> [23:32] <+epsy>: http://epsy.teamkilled.net:8080/~epsy/screenshots/arma-team/screenshot_1091-banner.png
23:36 <epsy> BabyBug: find the two differences :O
23:37 <TaZ_> epsy: lol
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23:37 <TaZ_> espy, did you see the youtube link I sent you
23:37 <TaZ_> epsy*
23:37 <epsy> what link?
23:37 <BabyBug> epsy, there's no gap in the wall and....
23:37 <TaZ_> argh
23:37 <TaZ_> ok hold on
23:38 <BabyBug> There's the text "Play Fortress"
23:38 <BabyBug> :)
23:38 <epsy> TaZ_, the flying bats? that wasn't on youtube :)
23:38 <epsy> BabyBug, No, not quite right
23:38 <BabyBug> was the first one right?
23:38 <TaZ_> Oh yea, Vimeo
23:38 <TaZ_> My fac service.
23:38 <TaZ_> It wasn't bats lol
23:38 <TaZ_> It  was people
23:39 <epsy> BabyBug, yes
23:39 <epsy> TaZ_, yeah, batpeoples
23:39 <TaZ_> xD
23:39 <TaZ_> I wanna try that one day.
23:39 <TaZ_> No joke.
23:39 <epsy> scary :S
23:39 <BabyBug> i can't see any non-obvious second difference
23:39 <epsy> there is one
23:40 <BabyBug> maybe, but i can't see it
23:40 <epsy> yeah
23:41 <epsy> hint: turn your head
23:42 <BabyBug> i did turn my head...
23:42 <TaZ_> ...lol
23:42 <TaZ_> epsy
23:43 <TaZ_> Oh, I see it!
23:44 <epsy> TaZ_, what is it?
23:44 <TaZ_> ..No, I was lying.
23:44 <epsy> haha
23:44 <epsy> try to draw the frame with your fingers if that helps
23:45 <epsy> actually, you might even see a third difference
23:45 <TaZ_> oh lol
23:45 <TaZ_> There it is
23:45 <TaZ_> Someone got coredumped
23:45 <TaZ_> On the first one
23:45 <epsy> BabyBug found that about 5 minutes ago
23:45 <TaZ_> rofl
23:46 <BabyBug> ...
23:46 <TaZ_> I think he is messing with us BabyBug
23:46 <BabyBug> french people are smart enough to do that
23:46 <TaZ_> :D
23:47 <epsy> didn't see that blue wall? it's totally getting in the way!
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23:47 <TaZ_> ...
23:47 <TaZ_> :|
23:47 <BabyBug> <BabyBug> i can't see any non-obvious second difference
23:47 <BabyBug> that blue wall is obvious
23:47 <BabyBug> so i was right
23:47 <BabyBug> \o/
23:47 <TaZ_> Yea, Babybug did say that
23:47 <TaZ_> you fail epsy
23:48 <epsy> and now the third one?
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23:48 <BabyBug> the angle of the image doesn't count as non-obvious
23:48 <epsy> stop with the triple negations!
23:49 <BabyBug> no x)
23:49 <luke-jr> epsy: y u ignore me
23:49 <TaZ_> You're easy to ignore :o
23:49 <epsy> luke-jr, do I?
23:49 <epsy> BabyBug, well, have fun finding it :P
23:49 <luke-jr> [16:29:02] <epsy> prepaid hosting ftw :P
23:49 <luke-jr> [16:29:27] <luke-jr> epsy: ?
23:49 <luke-jr> [16:29:54] <luke-jr> [16:20:14] <luke-jr> per-MB would be close enough
23:49 <luke-jr> [16:29:57] <luke-jr> that was the last I saw
23:50 <epsy> just a random thought
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23:50 <BabyBug> lol epsy when i first said i can't see a second difference =P
23:50 <epsy> good night
23:50 <luke-jr> epsy: bad night!
23:50 <luke-jr> no night!
23:50 <epsy> you too!
23:50 <luke-jr> bad epsy!
23:50 <TaZ_> nite epsy
23:50 <luke-jr> my night always bad
23:50 <epsy> sometimes bad here
23:50 <luke-jr> always bad here
23:50 <TaZ_> aww
23:51 <epsy> anyway, you should look into prepaid, I think some people may use it
23:51 <luke-jr> enough to be worth the coding involved?
23:51 <epsy> well, just facture the hours/minutes it's running
23:52 <epsy> well, it's worth a try I'd say
23:52 <luke-jr> maybe I should just send VcL the bill for the whole effin server
23:52 <luke-jr> their server uses more than all the others combined
23:52 <luke-jr> :o
23:53 <TaZ_> :(
23:53 <epsy> lol
23:53 <luke-jr> more bw *
23:53 <epsy> gn
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23:54 <luke-jr> caffinat0r: who r u
23:54 <caffinat0r> im mom's house
23:54 <luke-jr> wtf
23:54 <luke-jr> is that a player?
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23:55 <TaZ_> LOL!
23:55 <luke-jr> …
23:55 <TaZ_> You scared him
23:55 <luke-jr> crazy Washingtonians
23:55 -!- caffinat0r [n=caffinat@c-76-28-133-233.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #armagetron
23:55 <luke-jr> omg
23:55 <luke-jr> its him again
23:55 <caffinat0r> whoops
23:55 <caffinat0r> sorry about that
23:55 <luke-jr> you'd better be
23:55 <TaZ_> Hey mom's house
23:55 <luke-jr> that cost me $50
23:55 <luke-jr> ☹
23:55 <caffinat0r> yeah i'm not too active in the tron community'
23:56 <TaZ_> luke-jr, calm yourself down son.
23:56 <luke-jr> TaZ_: f u n00b
23:56 <Ady-Lucifer> ...
23:56 <luke-jr> caffinat0r: want a server?
23:56 <TaZ_> pssh, At least I play tron.
23:56 <TaZ_> :o
23:56 <luke-jr> TaZ_: f u, I'll pwn u in tron anyday
23:56 <luke-jr> even if I have to TK you
23:56 <TaZ_> luke-jr: noob please
23:56 <BabyBug> luke-jr, stop harrasing them as they first walk in!! No wonder you have so few customers
23:56 <luke-jr> BabyBug: lol
23:56 <luke-jr> TaZ_ didn't just walk in
23:56 <TaZ_> luke-jr: I'll add you to my list of beaten noobs.
23:56 <luke-jr> and he's the only one I'm trying to harrass now
23:56 <BabyBug> luke-jr, i was referring to caffinat0r
23:57 <luke-jr> BabyBug: I didn't harrass him yet.
23:57 <caffinat0r> Sure, i'd love a server
23:57 <BabyBug> <luke-jr> caffinat0r: want a server?
23:57 <luke-jr> caffinat0r: sweet
23:57 <luke-jr> caffinat0r: how many slots?
23:57 <caffinat0r> I don't care
23:57 <TaZ_> oO
23:57 <caffinat0r> what do you want in return?
23:57 <caffinat0r> my soul or something?
23:57 <luke-jr> cool, I'll set you up with a 40-slot for $42/mo
23:57 <Ady-Lucifer> LOL
23:57 <TaZ_> ROFL
23:57 <luke-jr> <.<
23:57 <caffinat0r> i don't have any internet money sorry
23:58 <luke-jr> cash is OK too
23:58 <caffinat0r> i spent my last few $$$ on your mom
23:58 <luke-jr> as is gold
23:58 <Ady-Lucifer> use durkadollars
23:58 <TaZ_> :o
23:58 <luke-jr> durka has a currency now⁈
23:58 <caffinat0r> YOU'RE AFTER MY GOLD
23:58 <caffinat0r> AREN'T YOU?
23:58 <caffinat0r> YOU CAN'T HAVE MY GOLD IF I'M DEAD
23:58 <luke-jr> caffinat0r: 1.35 grams of gold/mo for 40-slot
23:58 <luke-jr> not too mcuh!
23:58 <PinkTomato> bloody hell gold is expensive
23:59 <TaZ_> ya
23:59  * luke-jr wonders how many people noticed he has prices in gold on his website
23:59 <PinkTomato> 1 gram!?
23:59 <caffinat0r> ok
23:59 <caffinat0r> I'll send you that gold then
23:59 <Flex> haha, wtf? luke-jr you're trading in gold?
23:59 <luke-jr> 1 gram gets like 25 slot
23:59 <TaZ_> lol, that is so ghetto.

Log from 2008-12-12:
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00:00 <caffinat0r> lol
00:00 <PinkTomato> But it dosen't do anything
00:00 <caffinat0r> i don't really have the time to maintain a server
00:00 <caffinat0r> i was only joshing
00:00 <luke-jr> http://lightfoot.dashjr.org/?currency=GAU
00:00 <luke-jr> how about 4500円 for 40-slot?
00:01 <Flex> how do you trade the grams of gold?
00:01 <BabyBug> Royal Mail \o/
00:01 <luke-jr> Flex: I don't.
00:01 <PinkTomato> Japanese money has holes in it
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00:01 <luke-jr> :o
00:02 <PinkTomato> 1 yen coins are made up of aluminium
00:02 <luke-jr> 1 yen is worthless
00:02 <PinkTomato> no i mean
00:02 <PinkTomato> they are like plastic
00:02 <PinkTomato> its so silly :)
00:02 <PinkTomato> I bent one :P
00:03 <PinkTomato> why does it cost 8Liberty$ and 7$?
00:03 <PinkTomato> yet the next package is $13Liberty and $13
00:04 <luke-jr> trivial differences?
00:04 <luke-jr> I just price in gold and convert to the other currencies
00:04 <luke-jr> rounding
00:04 <luke-jr> http://tinyurl.com/lukebux <-- who wants a few pennies per ad they "view"
00:04 <luke-jr> I'm at like $11
00:04 <luke-jr> if I get to $20, I'm gonna advertise Armagetron probably
00:05 <BabyBug> define advertise
00:05 <luke-jr> you'll see at that site :þ
00:05 <luke-jr> they pay people to look at ads
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00:07 <BabyBug> oh right, so you'll add armagetron to the list of ads there?
00:07 <luke-jr> yeah
00:07 <BabyBug> Do those things actually draw attention though? lol
00:07 <luke-jr> if someone designs a nice ad
00:07 <luke-jr> and Armagetron itself is free of charge
00:07 <luke-jr> so I expect it should get some players at least
00:07 <luke-jr> 1000 views for $20
00:08 <luke-jr> and I can require they be premium members
00:08 <Ady-Lucifer> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/242520/teacher-threatens-to-call-the-cops-over-linux.html
00:09 <Ady-Lucifer> I LOL'D
00:09 <BabyBug> Ady-Lucifer, olddddd
00:09 <BabyBug> and by old i mean i beat you to that like 6 hours ago xD
00:09 <Ady-Lucifer> 11th december it is
00:09 <luke-jr> BabyBug: so wanna help me get to $20? :þ
00:09 <luke-jr> Ady-Lucifer can too :/
00:09 <BabyBug> lol luke-jr got better things to do =P
00:09 <luke-jr> meh
00:10 <luke-jr> so do I :/
00:10 <PinkTomato> Just posting about 'this cool game I found' on a web forum might be better
00:10 <luke-jr> u think?
00:11 <Ady-Lucifer> luke-jr, id i pay you 20$ you will get quiet?
00:11 <PinkTomato> hmm I don't know :)
00:11 <luke-jr> Ady-Lucifer: wtf?
00:11 <Ady-Lucifer> if*
00:11 <Ady-Lucifer> just kidding :)
00:11 <luke-jr> Ady-Lucifer: you don't think advertising Armagetron is a good goal?
00:11 <BabyBug> arma itself needs to look more attractive....the website for starters...ewww
00:12 <Ady-Lucifer> sorry i missed the convo, just read the 20$ part, i got to have dinner catch you later
00:12 <luke-jr> BabyBug: true… I like the design, but the implementation could use work
00:12 <Ady-Lucifer> post an arma torrent on piratebay
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00:12 <luke-jr> and a better main page
00:12 <luke-jr> lol Ady-Lucifer
00:12 <luke-jr> that might actually work
00:12 <luke-jr> XD
00:13 <BabyBug> The website atm is too narrow...And it uses 100% cpu when scrolling...
00:13 <BabyBug> well...100% of one core..
00:13 <luke-jr> like I said, bad implementation
00:14 <luke-jr> I'd need to mirror it too, probably
00:14 <luke-jr> or else the traffic would probably kill it
00:14 <PinkTomato> why does it use 100% cpu?
00:14 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, no idea
00:14 <PinkTomato> Is it the lines?
00:15 <PinkTomato> they are 1px x 1px
00:15 <PinkTomato> tiled
00:15 <BabyBug> luke-jr, would it really? =\
00:16 <BabyBug> Lucifer is alive!!
00:16 <luke-jr> BabyBug: 1000 hits in ~15 min?
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00:17 <BabyBug> luke-jr, hrmm well...maybe =P arma has 4 master servers..run the website on em..round robin..job done =D
00:18 <PinkTomato> depends if you think 24MB will kill it :)
00:24 <luke-jr> …
00:24 <luke-jr> you guys killed teh chat
00:25 <luke-jr> so who wants to help seed?
00:25 <BabyBug> gimme the torrent link \o/
00:25 <BabyBug> :P
00:26 <luke-jr> will as soon as TPB stops being a retard
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00:26 <luke-jr> hi sinewav
00:26 <BabyBug> lol
00:26 <luke-jr> we are busy conspiring
00:26 <luke-jr> want to conspire with us?
00:26 <sinewav> YES YES
00:27 <luke-jr> stupid pirate bay
00:27  * luke-jr kicks it
00:27 <BabyBug> luke-jr, you included a link to the website in the torrent right? =P
00:27 <luke-jr> no, why?
00:27 <luke-jr> <.<
00:27 <BabyBug> tradition!!
00:27 <luke-jr> want to make me one of those lame .URL files from Windoze?
00:28 <BabyBug> luke-jr, that's probably the best thing to do...If they're not using windows...They know to open the file to get the link :P
00:28 <luke-jr> …
00:28 <luke-jr> SO MAKE ME ONE
00:28 <madmax> what is this conspiracy you speak of?
00:28  * BabyBug doesn't know how ='(
00:29  * Lizmatic is confused
00:29 <luke-jr> madmax: we're leaking Armagetron 0.2.8 alpha on The Pirate Bay!
00:29  * BabyBug squeeeeeeeeezes Lizmatic 
00:29  * ct|kyle cuddles luke-jr with BabyBug
00:29 <luke-jr> BabyBug: you use windoze?
00:29 <sinewav> Awesome
00:29 <luke-jr> no
00:29 <BabyBug> =P
00:29 <luke-jr> who uses windoze⁈
00:29 <ct|kyle> i do
00:29 <ct|kyle> when forced to
00:29 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: what version are you putting up?
00:29 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: you know how to make .url files?
00:29 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: alpha
00:30 <ct|kyle> i used to
00:30 <PinkTomato> windows bzr?
00:30 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: drag the location thing from IE to desktop I think
00:30 <BabyBug> luke-jr, you're upping the a windows version and a nix version right...?
00:30 <ct|kyle> but hell, i don't care anymore
00:30 <luke-jr> BabyBug: no just windoze
00:30 <BabyBug> oh right, kk, as long as it's windows =D
00:30 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: ya that works
00:30 <luke-jr> I'm gonna upload w/o URL files if you guys don't get me a few now
00:31 <luke-jr> wait, the Windoze installer makes .URL links in the Start Menu anyway, doesn't it?
00:31 <luke-jr> fine f u guys
00:31 <luke-jr> no URL files
00:31 <PinkTomato> http://www.cyanwerks.com/file-format-url.html
00:31 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: I believe it does
00:31 <BabyBug> lol luke-jr just add a link to arma in the torrent description then
00:32 <ct|kyle> I have not really used windows in over a year, just touch it here and thier for stupid stuff
00:32 <PinkTomato> not one windows user following this conversation?
00:32 <BabyBug> newp
00:32 <Ady-Lucifer> dont put it on piratebay!!!! FFS
00:32 <BabyBug> lol
00:33 <PinkTomato> why?
00:33 <BabyBug> Ady-Lucifer, there's no disadvantage to putting it TPB...But there may also be no advantage
00:33 <Ady-Lucifer> Have you even thought of what it'd be with 1000+ players? full servers, waiting 1 day to get on cafe... lots of noobs
00:33 <BabyBug> But there's no disadvantage!!
00:33  * sinewav uses XP, sadly.
00:33 <BabyBug> Ady-Lucifer, that means more servers then \o.
00:33 <PinkTomato> it will be full of pirates
00:34 <sinewav> pirates ftw?
00:34 <Ady-Lucifer> server hosters would have to get better servers, and charge for the hosting -> monthly fees for users
00:34 <Ady-Lucifer> etc
00:34 <PinkTomato> lol Ady-Lucifer. I won't be charging anything
00:34 <sinewav> times are tough, let's pirate!
00:34 <Ady-Lucifer> arrr
00:34 <PinkTomato> there's plenty of servers
00:34 <madmax> TPB's search sucks so no one will find it anyway
00:34 <PinkTomato> it will sort of work
00:35 <luke-jr> Ady-Lucifer: that's good
00:35 <luke-jr> for me
00:35 <Ady-Lucifer> haha
00:36 <PinkTomato> now if armagetronad got 'digged'
00:36 <Ady-Lucifer> You'll be like donald duck, have a huge gold pool, but when you'll jump your head will crack on the 1 tonelade of gold and game over.
00:36 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, it has been hasnt it?
00:36 <sinewav> digged, yes...
00:36 <PinkTomato> Hmm.. but it wasn't a full digg?
00:36 <PinkTomato> Like best linux games or something?
00:36 <sinewav> LOL
00:36 <PinkTomato> 2 years ago
00:36 <madmax> we could plan a massive upvoting \o/
00:37 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, Not much has changed in arma for two years though =P
00:37 <Ady-Lucifer> http://digg.com/search?s=armagetron&submit=Search&section=all&type=both&area=promoted&sort=score
00:37 <sinewav> oh! spam all the sites promoting TR2N
00:37 <luke-jr> http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4570624
00:38 <PinkTomato> Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory works on linux ? I did not know this
00:38 <madmax> alpha release leak! :o
00:38 <Lizmatic> you play WT PinkTomato?
00:38 <Ady-Lucifer> Tag(s):
00:38 <Ady-Lucifer>     TRON Armagetron cars racing Grand Theft Auto TRON 2.0 cart Rallisport Midtown
00:38 <Ady-Lucifer> hahahahaha
00:38 <Lizmatic> ET*
00:38 <madmax> wait, 20080308?
00:39 <luke-jr> lol
00:39 <sinewav> Arma + GTA FTL
00:39 <PinkTomato> Lizmatic: I used to ages and ages ago :)
00:39 <Lizmatic> imagine arma + gta
00:39 <Lizmatic> stealing someone elses cycle
00:39 <luke-jr> lol
00:39 <Ady-Lucifer> LOL
00:39 <PinkTomato> lol, that might work
00:39 <luke-jr> sinewav: just getting search results ;)
00:40 <luke-jr> +1 on quality?
00:40 <luke-jr> maybe some positive comments
00:40  * BabyBug complains about the poor download speed =(
00:40 <Ady-Lucifer> ima seed that for you
00:40 <luke-jr> sorry, I cap during the day
00:40 <BabyBug> can't you uncap just for a second? it's only 2 mb.. =(
00:40 <luke-jr> yep
00:41 <BabyBug> oo done
00:41 <luke-jr> lulz
00:41 <sinewav> Hey, anyone wanna troubleshoot a quick arma issue for me?
00:41 <luke-jr> no
00:41 <luke-jr> :þ
00:41 <sinewav> too bad
00:41 <PinkTomato> thats what #armagetron is for :P
00:41 <sinewav> Unknown nMessage with descriptor ID 350
00:41 <sinewav> Unknown nMessage with descriptor ID 341
00:41 <sinewav> wtf is it
00:42 <luke-jr> Next time, remind me to inflate the file size before uploading
00:42 <luke-jr> 3 MB will look pathetic
00:42 <BabyBug>  R: 1.14] <---- Not a leecher =D
00:42 <dlh> sinewav: zones v2 stuff
00:42 <luke-jr> 2.17 here
00:42 <Ady-Lucifer> LOL BabyBug
00:42 <luke-jr> no idea how it calculates, as I never downloaded
00:42 <dlh> sinewav: the server must be running 0.3alpha something
00:42 <BabyBug> luke-jr, it just uses the file size of the torrent =P
00:42 <madmax> hit that +1 quality
00:43 <PinkTomato> pirate's bag GMT time is off?
00:43 <PinkTomato> or is it really past midnight?
00:44 <BabyBug> No it's off.
00:44 <luke-jr> anyone know how to get a bigger screenshot?
00:44 <luke-jr> on TPB
00:45 <Ady-Lucifer> post in descr
00:45 <luke-jr> wtf is that
00:46 <Ady-Lucifer> link in description
00:46 <luke-jr> meh
00:46 <luke-jr> useless then
00:46 <Ady-Lucifer> nothin else u can do
00:46 <luke-jr> I mean int he corner
00:47 <Ady-Lucifer> nope
00:47 <PinkTomato> that's such an old screenshot
00:47 <PinkTomato> reminds me of 2.5
00:47 <Ady-Lucifer> :O
00:47 <Ady-Lucifer> i played 2.6
00:47 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: that's the best screenshot I know of
00:47 <luke-jr> I think it was 2.5 :x
00:48 <luke-jr> why does Arma look like crap now?
00:48 <PinkTomato> because green background and green players don't work
00:48 <luke-jr> :/
00:48 <luke-jr> so forbid green XD
00:49 <PinkTomato> :)
00:49 <Ady-Lucifer> we've got no downloaders :(
00:49 <luke-jr> :/
00:49 <PinkTomato> ah but we have seeds :)
00:49 <luke-jr> 11 leechers, TPB sez
00:49 <Ady-Lucifer> got one
00:49 <Ady-Lucifer> lol
00:49 <luke-jr> u got upload?
00:49 <luke-jr> me too!
00:49 <luke-jr> sweet
00:49 <Ady-Lucifer> yes
00:49 <luke-jr> hrm
00:49 <luke-jr> too bad Lucifer never finished the music thing
00:50 <luke-jr> quiet splash might not be the best first impression
00:50 <BabyBug> it's a "leaked alpha"....
00:50 <luke-jr> :þ
00:50 <Ady-Lucifer> post positive comments so they know its not spyware/virus
00:50 <luke-jr> true
00:50 <PinkTomato> its the pirate bay
00:51 <PinkTomato> I don't think they care :)
00:51 <luke-jr> maybe a comment saying "background music doesn't work in this leak, but it's still fun!"
00:51 <luke-jr> or something like that
00:51 <Ady-Lucifer> they do care a lot
00:52 <Ady-Lucifer> someone post about playing multiplayer coz if they see that sucky singleplayer mode...duh LOL
00:52 <luke-jr> single player isn't too bad anymore
00:52 <BabyBug> yes it is....
00:52 <PinkTomato> hey I used to play that sucky 1 player mode ;)
00:52 <PinkTomato> in a time without broadband
00:53 <Ady-Lucifer> same here
00:56  * PinkTomato is glad no one suggested posting on 4chan
00:56 <luke-jr> <.<
01:01 <luke-jr> Seeders:
01:01 <luke-jr> 8
01:01 <luke-jr> Leechers:
01:01 <luke-jr> 10
01:01 <PinkTomato> How many people downloaded overall?
01:02 <luke-jr> shrug
01:02 <luke-jr> got a bunch of people on my IM list seeding too
01:02 <PinkTomato> I thought TPB tells you
01:03 <luke-jr> I just posted what it tells me
01:03 <PinkTomato> It doesn't I just checked, Obviously I imagined this feature.
01:07 <hoax> what's this?
01:07 <ct|kyle> http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4570624
01:07 <hoax> hahaha
01:08 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: you should pack the source code with it to inflate it a bit
01:09 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: good idea
01:09 <ct|kyle> and then make it of 20 different revisions
01:09 <luke-jr> ROFL
01:09 <luke-jr> check out the entire svn repo?
01:09 <ct|kyle> LOL
01:09 <ct|kyle> sure
01:09 <ct|kyle> :P
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01:16  * sinewav is subtly dropping Arma on TR2N websites right now.
01:16 <ct|kyle> heh
01:18 <madmax> hmmm, imdb...
01:20 <Ady-Lucifer> night
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01:20 <luke-jr> http://www.mininova.org/tor/2085003
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01:25 <sinewav> I didn't do IMDB because they freak me out with their registration process.
01:27 <Monkey_arma> hey CruZ
01:29 <PinkTomato> sinewav: what's wrong with it?
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01:30 <PinkTomato> Monkey_arma: What's the best sumo settings?
01:30 <Monkey_arma> 1) in what respect?
01:30 <PinkTomato> not as in solo or team, currently uses TST settomgs
01:30 <Monkey_arma> 2) Im no expert
01:30 <PinkTomato> ah right
01:30 <Monkey_arma> ah i get you
01:31 <PinkTomato> problem with TST is max 8 players?
01:31 <Monkey_arma> yes
01:31 <Monkey_arma> well i dont like WW settings
01:31 <Monkey_arma> CT and X server are better. ask epsy or durka best i think
01:31 <PinkTomato> OK :)
01:32 <Monkey_arma> hole_score was a hot debate
01:32 <Monkey_arma> but you can remove it if you like the TST settings
01:32 <Monkey_arma> and change max players etc
01:32 <PinkTomato> could do, but it's only one arena
01:32 <sinewav> |x| sumo FTW
01:33 <Monkey_arma> for me, the main settings that seem to differ are the rules about leaving the zones
01:33 <PinkTomato> I like |x| sumo too :)
01:33 <PinkTomato> Monkey_arma: not noticed that
01:33 <Monkey_arma> i know more about fort settings than sumo...im newish to sumo really..
01:34 <Monkey_arma> I guess that TST would not take into account mulitple zones? idk
01:34 <Monkey_arma> epsy can tell u that
01:35 <ct|kyle> multiple zones is between the map file and 1 settings
01:35 <ct|kyle> to spawn the corectly
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01:36 <PinkTomato> do people use durka's map?
01:39 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: i can send you ours which is durks with a few changes
01:40 <PinkTomato> if that's ok :)
01:41 <ct|kyle> its only our Team sumo portion, and i'm sure it is fine
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03:50 <Paralyzed> hia guys :)
03:53 <sinewav> sup para
03:57 <ct|kyle> oia
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05:20 <hoax> #later tell PinkTomato Your server just crashed? 4:20am
05:20 <armabot> hoax: The operation succeeded.
05:21 <hoax> ooh 420
05:22 <hoax> #later tell PinkTomato fort, that is
05:22 <armabot> hoax: The operation succeeded.
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06:56 <luke-jr> WTF guys
06:56 <luke-jr> mininova took our torrent down
06:56 <luke-jr> _WTF_
06:56 <luke-jr> >:O
06:56 <ct|kyle> heh
06:57 <ct|kyle> probably copyright violation :P
06:57 <luke-jr> -.-
06:57 <luke-jr> who complained?
06:58 <luke-jr> I mean, yeah, it technically was
06:58 <luke-jr> I left out the source <.<
06:58 <ct|kyle> yes but you still could provide it if needed
06:58 <epsy> a link to a page showing a link to the sources would have been enough
06:58 <luke-jr> epsy: technically no
06:59 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: in such a case, an offer for 2 years is required
07:07 <luke-jr> so
07:07 <luke-jr> who wants to be interviewed for TV?
07:08 <luke-jr> some G4TV thing
07:08 <luke-jr> about Armagetron
07:08 <ct|kyle> i hate g4tv
07:08 <luke-jr> …
07:08 <luke-jr> I hate TV
07:08 <luke-jr> but do you want to be on it?
07:09 <epsy> me too heh
07:09 <ct|kyle> g4 is evil though
07:09 <ct|kyle> they buy our another channel and then remove the good shows from it
07:09 <luke-jr> TV doesn't have good shows
07:10  * luke-jr forces epsy and ct|kyle to interview for G4TV Armagetron program
07:12 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: you can take my spot
07:21 <SageLord> i want to be on it :D
07:23 <SageLord> i've got a good tv face :P
07:23 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: i remove you from my spot and puts up SageLord instead
07:25 <SageLord> :P
07:25 <SageLord> no but seriously, what's going on?  armagetron is getting an interview?
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07:26 <SageLord> :/
07:26 <luke-jr> SageLord: maybe
07:26 <luke-jr> nothing confirmed yet
07:26 <SageLord> nice
07:27 <SageLord> how did this happen?
07:27 <SageLord> g4 noticed armagetron?  someone talked to them about it?
07:27 <luke-jr> someone knows someone with connections
07:27 <SageLord> nice
07:27 <epsy> one of these are luke-jr I guess
07:27 <epsy> err, is
07:27 <SageLord> ah, i see
07:28 <SageLord> well thats good, wouldn't that bring more people to tron?
07:28 <luke-jr> no
07:28 <luke-jr> I'm the someone who knows someone who knows someone with connections.
07:28 <epsy> liar
07:28 <luke-jr> am !
07:28 <luke-jr> where ! is used as an unary operator..
07:29 <SageLord> hahaha
07:29 <SageLord> i lol'd
07:30 <luke-jr> I yawned.
07:30 <SageLord> are they asking for face to face interview?  or just a written interview?
07:31 <SageLord> or... rather, which could happen?
07:31 <luke-jr> TV
07:31 <SageLord> man that's pretty cool
07:31 <luke-jr> is it?
07:32 <SageLord> isn't it?
07:32 <luke-jr> shrug
07:32 <luke-jr> TV is for idiots
07:32 <SageLord> haha
07:32 <SageLord> tv is a good way for advertising
07:32 <luke-jr> true
07:32 <SageLord> to expand the tron community
07:32 <luke-jr> …and sell more servers
07:32 <SageLord> there ya go
07:32 <luke-jr> SageLord: did you see our earlier advertising conspiracy?
07:33 <SageLord> erm... no, i don't think so
07:33 <SageLord> what was it about?
07:35 <luke-jr> http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4570624
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07:36 <epsy> release leaks? LOL
07:37 <luke-jr> ☺
07:38 <epsy> right, bbl
07:38 <luke-jr> NO
07:38 <luke-jr> u stay
07:38 <luke-jr> I BBL
07:38 <epsy> noz
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09:35 <epsy> wrtlprnft, zthread seems to be messing up at marvin at compile time
09:44 <epsy> (therefore making pretty much every ./configure checks failing)
09:47 <epsy> wrtlprnft, it seems to work with the build I installed in /home/rain/zthread/
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12:49 <PinkTomato> #later tell hoax Sorry about that, it was a "24446 Segmentation fault"
12:49 <armabot> PinkTomato: The operation succeeded.
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13:53 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8659 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/ePlayer.cpp src/network/nAuthentication.cpp):
13:53 <armabot> armagetronad: author: epsy
13:53 <armabot> armagetronad: * Fix subdirectory handling for shorthand authorities
13:53 <armabot> armagetronad: * Have PLAYER_MESSAGE retrieve the message to be sent using operator >> instead of tString::ReadLine, allowing use of newlines but forcing the use of quotes
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14:00 <Lizmatic> o/
14:04 -!- TaZ [i=981e3862@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-35d5bced06311770] has joined #armagetron
14:04 <TaZ> Hi
14:07 <PinkTomato> hi
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14:17 <Lizmatic> bla
14:22 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r953 * Fix subdirectory handling for shorthand authorities...
14:35 <TaZ> :)
14:35  * TaZ just onwned epsy. VcL.KuRµpt ftw!
14:47 <epsy> TaZ, one thing, please don't abuse the chat wait feature
14:55 <TaZ> Ok, I just felt I had to say that though. :)
14:55 <epsy> lol
14:55 <TaZ> :P
14:56 <TaZ> Why is the chat wait feature so long, epsy?
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15:05 <epsy> because people r sowl!
15:06 <epsy> 5 seconds less may be welcome though
15:07 <TaZ> Yea, you might want to do that, because I don't see myself stopping from abusing chat wait.
15:07 <TaZ> :P
15:07 <epsy> TaZ, I can see myself stopping you from abusing it ;)
15:08 <TaZ> epsy: Not unless you're in the server. ;)
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16:16 <BabyBug> o/
16:21 <PinkTomato> woo!
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16:39 <BabyBug> .ls Flex
16:39 <tronner> BabyBug: Flex has last been seen on  Wild West  =Sumo= 13 hours 58 minutes ago.
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17:06 <Lizmatic> o/
17:06 <BabyBug> \o/
17:06 <Lizmatic> its cold outside. :|
17:06 <hoax> LOL!
17:06 <madmax> #tea
17:06 <armabot> madmax: Fortress Café: Players (13/32): -»|hoop (hoop@forums), alf (alf@ct), BabyBug, Cilit Bang, crazy, CT_emmy, ct|Puuquie, epsy¦×¦ (epsy@forums), free kill, lolzinator, madmax, MaZuffeR, NûMb3r$
17:07 <Lizmatic> oh nice, /goes fort
17:07 <madmax> :)
17:09 <SageLord> oh nice, i'm coming too :)
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18:17 <BabyBug> epsy, <3
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18:19  * ct|kyle forces BabyBug to cuddle armabot
18:19 <BabyBug> you're just jealous ct|kyle
18:20 <epsy> hi BabyBug
18:20 <BabyBug> \o
18:20 <epsy> http://playfortress.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/screenshot_1100-banner1.png
18:21 <epsy> that's nicer :)
18:21 <BabyBug> What's the banner going to be for? (where is it going)
18:21 <epsy> http://playfortress.wordpress.com/
18:21 <BabyBug> ooooooo kk
18:22 <BabyBug> i was going to say the height of the image looks too much but nvm :)
18:24 <epsy> heh, it's meant to fit it exactly
18:25 <BabyBug> how would one go about adding patterns on to the walls left by the bikes?
18:25 <epsy> you're thinking the wrong way :P
18:25 <BabyBug> ?
18:25 <epsy> this is blooming:
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18:26 <BabyBug> ?
18:26 <epsy> duplicate the layer, apply whatever you like for color changes(here I made the RIM wall blue and the the gold parts very bright), and gaussian blur that channel
18:26 <epsy> then set the channel mode to screen
18:27 <epsy> oops, I meant layer mode
18:27 <BabyBug> noooo i didn't mean like that, i meant brand new topic...The dir_wall.png files...Where do you place them on nix? =\
18:27 <epsy> that's the default texture
18:28 <epsy> should be in ~/.armagetronad/textures/
18:28 <BabyBug> kk ty :)
18:30 <epsy> mm these are real lightcycles :P
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18:46 <dlh> launchpad is being really slow today...
18:47 <epsy> what part?
18:47 <dlh> branching took a long time
18:47 <dlh> but in retrospect I could have just branched from my local copy
18:48 <epsy> heh
18:49 <BabyBug> launchpad is always slow \o/
18:49 <epsy> BabyBug, yeah, python is slow
18:49 <BabyBug> epsy, shush lol
18:49 <epsy> :D
18:50 <BabyBug> I don't love you anymore!!
18:50 <epsy> onoz
18:51 <epsy> you prefer python huh :(
18:51 <BabyBug> Snakes are longer ;)
18:51 <epsy> mm you like it longer
18:52 <epsy> and with a sneaky tongue, too
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18:53 <BabyBug> =D
18:54 <epsy> :)
18:55 <epsy> PinkTomato, need settinz?
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19:14 <BabyBug> epsy, what do you have against python so much? =P
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19:21 <epsy> BabyBug, blah
19:21 <BabyBug> no epsy no blah
19:21 <BabyBug> i want a reason!
19:29 <epsy> :O
19:48 <epsy> blah, the eEventHandler part is driving me nuts :(
19:57 <BabyBug> see...no reason what so ever
19:58 <epsy> nah, python programs often used to be the ones that worked the less
20:04 <ct|kyle> often used to be << so dose not anymore :P
20:04 <epsy> kind of
20:05 <epsy> blah, I don't want 156313 different classes inheriting from eEventHandler :x
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20:11 <Pathetique> #lastseen xzl.FroZen
20:11 <armabot> Pathetique: timed out
20:11 <Pathetique> wtf
20:11 <Pathetique> #ls frozen
20:11 <Pathetique> is the last seen database down still?
20:11 <armabot> Pathetique: timed out
20:12 <Pathetique> Looks like it
20:12 <madmax> down?
20:12 <epsy> @ls epsy
20:12 <madmax> #ls madmax
20:12 <armabot> madmax: madmax has last been seen on Fortress Café 1 hour 54 minutes ago.
20:12 <epsy> heh, mutlithreading
20:12 <epsy> thread teabot needs a -9
20:12 <epsy> .ls epsy
20:13 <tronner> epsy: epsy¦×¦ has last been seen on Fortress Café 1 hour 59 minutes ago.
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20:13 <Pathetique> @ls xzl.frozen
20:13 <Pathetique> How far back does the db go?
20:13 <epsy> at least two years
20:13 <epsy> I would say
20:14 <BabyBug> minus 2 years
20:14 <epsy> well, let's say at least 1 year
20:14 <Pathetique> ffs
20:14 <Pathetique> @ls xzl frozen
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20:14 <epsy> yeah minux two years because it's slow as fuck
20:14 <epsy> and times out
20:14 <Pathetique> well then
20:14 <Pathetique> anyone know when FroZen last played?
20:15 <PinkTomato> epsy: settingz :D?
20:15 <epsy> @help lastseen
20:15 <teabot> epsy: (lastseen <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch [format concat http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/lastseen.php?player= [format join + $*]]".
20:16 <epsy> Pathetique, check directly at that URL
20:16 <epsy> PinkTomato, settinz!
20:17 <Pathetique> ty
20:17 <Pathetique> hmmm
20:17 <PinkTomato> xD
20:17 <epsy> Pathetique, yes, it takes time
20:17 <PinkTomato> sumo settings?
20:17 <epsy> that's why it times out on bots
20:17 <epsy> PinkTomato, let me compile a tarballz
20:17 <Pathetique> I see.
20:18 <epsy> o well
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20:24 <Pathetique> LOL@Manta's new autokick
20:24 <PinkTomato> Manta has an autokick?
20:25 <Pathetique> mhm
20:25 <Pathetique> I just said "There is no fucking autokick." in response to someone
20:25 <PinkTomato> what do I do, just go in the server and swear?
20:25 <Pathetique> and I just got banned for 60 minutes
20:25 <Pathetique> yes
20:25 <PinkTomato> hehe, see now that I know
20:25 <Pathetique> what?
20:25 <PinkTomato> I wouldn't usually but I feel like trying it
20:25 <Pathetique> LOL
20:26 <Pathetique> do it
20:26 <Pathetique> but before you do
20:26 <Pathetique> go in there and say that I say "Oh, there is an autokick."
20:27 <PinkTomato> Why didn't manta just not ignore swear words?
20:27 <PinkTomato> if your going to program an auto kick, would just as easy be done to develop something that dosen't display them
20:29 <K-Yo> #help si
20:29 <armabot> K-Yo: (si <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "serverinfo $*".
20:29 <K-Yo> #help serverinfo
20:29 <armabot> K-Yo: (serverinfo <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/serverdetails.php?name=@1+@2+@3+@4+@5+@6+@7+@8+@9".
20:30 <Pathetique> but anywho
20:30 <Pathetique> if you drop the f-bomb
20:30 <Pathetique> it bans you for an hour
20:30 <Pathetique> with the message of "don't do that"
20:31 <epsy> uhm, awesome
20:33 <Pathetique> no
20:33 <Pathetique> not awesome
20:33 <Pathetique> rly bad.
20:33 <Pathetique> Next thing you know it'll ban you for using capslock.
20:34 <Pathetique> I dunno
20:34 <Pathetique> mebeh
20:34 <Pathetique> we'll have to see how far
20:34 <Pathetique> he takes it
20:34 <PinkTomato> it dosen't work: matsushita
20:34 <epsy> infuckingcredible.
20:35 <Pathetique> lol
20:35 <Pathetique> "Connection Interrupted"
20:35 <Pathetique> damn
20:36 <PinkTomato> Pathetique: ??
20:36 <Pathetique> My lastseen search.
20:37 <Lizmatic> #tea
20:37 <armabot> Lizmatic: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
20:37  * BabyBug prods Lizmatic 
20:37  * Lizmatic greets her lover
20:37 <PinkTomato> Pathetique: unusally swearing to yourself does not kick you
20:38 <Pathetique> what
20:38 <Pathetique> in a /msg?
20:38 <PinkTomato> yes, unlike their multimode setup, where you can message replies to yourself will work
20:39 <Pathetique> did it kick you though?
20:39 <PinkTomato> nope still there
20:39  * BabyBug enjoys some sweet sweet love with Lizmatic =D
20:39 <Pathetique> ...
20:39 <Pathetique> damnit.
20:39 <Lizmatic> come xteam? :D
20:39 <BabyBug> sumo?
20:40 <Pathetique> sumo!
20:40 <Pathetique> fort cafe?
20:40 <Pathetique> D:
20:41  * Pathetique wants to fort a lot
20:41 <Lizmatic> path come xteamsumo, its fun
20:45 <Pathetique> path is going to lay down.
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20:46 <Pathetique> bbs
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21:25 <Monkey_arma> later tell Pathetique Just in case you didn't get this: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Organised_Matches
21:25 <Monkey_arma> #later tell Pathetique Just in case you didn't get this: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Organised_Matches
21:25 <armabot> Monkey_arma: The operation succeeded.
21:28 <sinewav> Fort Cafe
21:31 <Lizmatic> #tea
21:31 <armabot> Lizmatic: Fortress Café: Players (2/32): CTT_sine.wav, ~*DreadLord*~
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22:05 <Lizmatic> #tea
22:05 <armabot> Lizmatic: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
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22:16 <BabyBug> lol Lizmatic bored much? =P
22:16 <Lizmatic> howd you guess xD
22:16 <BabyBug> hehehe
22:16 <Lizmatic> Zzz :(
22:23 <BabyBug> <3
22:24 <epsy> blah
22:25 <epsy> pretty much the same here
22:27 <epsy> I can just get on the wiki at the eEvent page, and stare at it until I get an idea of how to implement eEventHandler in a proper way
22:28 <BabyBug> Just do that thing and it'll be great =)
22:28 <BabyBug> the perfect way to implement it
22:28 <epsy> that thing?
22:28 <BabyBug> yeh
22:29 <SageLord> i agree
22:29 <epsy> what is that thing?
22:29 <BabyBug> you know...
22:30 <SageLord> that thing :)
22:30 <Lizmatic> THE thing!
22:30 <epsy> no..I don't
22:30 <BabyBug> well it looks like you're the only fool here epsy
22:30 <epsy> le schpunst
22:32 <Lizmatic> omelet du fromage
22:32 <SageLord> mmm fromage
22:32  * epsy wants a draft for eEventHandler, not cheese!
22:32 <Lizmatic> omelet du fromage oui oui voulez vouch coucher avec moi NON
22:33 <Lizmatic> ..yeah i'm bore
22:33 <Lizmatic> d
22:34  * BabyBug entertains Lizmatic 
22:34 <epsy> I got an idea..
22:34 <PinkTomato> ??
22:35 <Lizmatic> !!!???
22:36 <epsy> have eEventArgument lists wear some kind of set of markers that defines the arguments' types
22:36 <epsy> name that a template
22:36 <BabyBug> *snore* xD
22:37 <epsy> and have handlers use that template to rapidly get what they want from the argument list
22:38 <epsy> like "get me a player in this mess", or "get me some random text in here"
22:39  * PinkTomato does not understand :D
22:39 <epsy> for example, a "center_message" event will just expect some random text
22:40 <epsy> so it asks to the template, or to the argument list "I want some random text!"
22:40 <PinkTomato> so its a code cleanup?
22:40 <epsy> it's code that hasn't been done yet
22:40 <PinkTomato> oh right
22:40 <epsy> I'm thinking aloud about how I should try to implement it
22:40 <PinkTomato> hehe :D
22:41 <epsy> that won't need 1e+42 different inheritiers from eEventHandler just to use a different type of callback
22:42 <epsy> drawback is that you would need to make templates for this&that, even if it's ultramega specific
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22:43 <epsy> not sure if it's a good idea to allow discarding it
22:43 <epsy> may lead to crappy undocumented code
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22:49 <epsy> but well, what do we do for stuff like "showing a message saying 'Team blue conquered Team red\'s base'" ?
22:50 <wrtlprnft> Monkey_arma: now i'd be here for about half an hour…
22:50 <epsy> discarding the construction of the template is the only possible solution here
22:50 <wrtlprnft> epsy: recompiling zthread, maybe that'll work
22:50 <epsy> wrtlprnft, xts runs latest code, with zthread in ~rain/zthread/
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23:43 <epsy> SageLord: I remember having said "good idea" to you, what was the idea already?
23:47 <SageLord> haha, what?
23:48 <SageLord> to silence that guy that was chatting for 20 seconds?
23:48 <epsy> aah, yeah, dont wait for silenced people
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23:56 <epsy> thanks again sage
23:56 <SageLord> lol np
23:58 <epsy> #later tell *man* r950 is still causing trouble on every system I had access to, you should check that macro
23:58 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.

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00:17 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8660 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/ePlayer.cpp): epsy: Don't wait for silenced players at start.
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00:22 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r954 Don't wait for silenced players at start....
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00:23 <BabyBug> \o/
00:24 <PinkTomato> \o/\o/
00:24 <PinkTomato> what is with the cheers :D
00:24 <PinkTomato> Oh! bzr update :)
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00:26 <BabyBug> lol
00:29 <PinkTomato> I've only noticed Lucifer's name is satan.
00:29 <Lucifer> heh
00:30 <Lucifer> man, I'm trying to remember what I last did with the sound engine
00:30 <BabyBug> ...
00:31 <epsy> PlayContinuousing!
00:31 <Lucifer> there's two distinct ideas in the sound engine, both half-finished, and I'm trying to distinguish between them so I can work on one of them
00:31  * Lucifer thinks he should work on the resource system instead
00:31 <Lucifer> (since that's a prerequisite to the sound engine)
00:32 <epsy> well that's a prerequiste to eEvent which is a prerequiste for soundengine
00:33 <Lucifer> has anything been done with the resource engine?
00:33 <Lucifer> or is it still in roughly the same shape as it was before we had that big talk about it?
00:33  * Lucifer knows he did some work in header files, but doesn't think he implemented anything
00:33 <Lucifer> z-man-work: hey, do we still need to support MSVC 6?
00:33 <epsy> well, it should still show somewhere on trunk logs
00:34 <epsy> but trunk does not even run :|
00:34 <Lucifer> it doesn't?
00:34  * Lucifer hasn't tried to build it yet
00:34 <epsy> no, some std:iostream cousin is segfaulting in global constructors initialisation
00:35 <Lucifer> gdb?
00:35 <epsy> yeah
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00:35 <Lucifer> any idea when it stopped working?
00:35 <epsy> not sure if I have a tracec under my hand, but there's nothing from arma, except the call to the contructor
00:35 <Lucifer> you know, so I can branch from an earlier revision :)
00:36 <epsy> well, that's the same thing I do on -eevent
00:36 <Lucifer> ok, it's dark enough for me to drive my car, so I need to work on my shower
00:37 <Lucifer> maybe I should do sound engine work in your eevent branch?  ;)
00:37 <epsy> I discarded a merge from mainline right because it didn't even run
00:37 <epsy> well, eEventHandler isn't quite designed yet
00:38 <Lucifer> so you know which revision the trunk broke on?
00:38  * Lucifer hasn't even built in a year, let alone played
00:38 <epsy> (ie. what launches an action from an executed eEvent)
00:38 <Lucifer> we need qt's signals and slots
00:38 <epsy> otherwise, the hello_world event works bidirectionally
00:38 <Lucifer> do we need to support MSVC 6 still?
00:39  * Lucifer doesn't think we need to
00:39 <Lucifer> I ask because the resource system would get a bit easier if we can use template methods
00:39 <Lucifer> which I just learned about :)
00:39 <epsy> no, there was some changes with makefiles that confused me(and make)
00:39 <epsy> for MSVC I guess we don't have to care
00:40 <Lucifer> well, I'm a go work on my shower, bbiab
00:40 <epsy> actually, I have a mockup of an idea for eEventHandler, see earlier in today's chatlog
00:40 <epsy> ok, bb
00:41 <BabyBug> Since when does mockup mean random babbling to oneself?
00:41 <BabyBug> =P
00:42 <epsy> it's not a mockup of eEventHandler, it's a mockup of an idea for eEventHandler
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00:48 <epsy> :(
00:50 <BabyBug> epsy, </3
00:52 <PinkTomato> so whats <3/ then?
01:01 <Monkey_arma> PinkTomato: http://www.tronrepublik.net/
01:01 <Monkey_arma> Better tell someone.
01:01 <epsy> guru3, would it be possible to turn off recaptcha on the wiki for links to launchpad.net and derivates?
01:02 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, Broken Heart...Basically means i hate you!
01:02 <guru3> epsy: id have to start fiddling with the plugin code, so i dont know
01:02 <epsy> oh
01:03 <PinkTomato> Monkey_arma: Thanks, no one is online at the moment.
01:03 <Monkey_arma> np
01:03 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: Awww :(
01:04 <epsy> also, if someone familliar with ubuntu could get a procedure for this: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=FAQ#ArmagetronAd_keeps_minimizing_when_on_fullscreen_mode_on_Ubuntu.2FGNOME
01:04 <guru3> i think xscreensaver also causes that sometimes
01:05 <PinkTomato> Oh how I want that bug fixed :D
01:05 <guru3> "what could be done as an optional setting, is cofiguring the graphics driver to check what app has been called to the front and disable any background running programs (screensaver included) from calling fullscreen. can be done by hooking DirectX and tracing all calls for such."
01:05 <guru3> what the HELL is that guy talkinga bout
01:05 <epsy> yeah lol
01:05 <PinkTomato> DirectX dosen't run on ubuntu...
01:06 <epsy> DirectX hooking to debug gnome-screensaver
01:06 <epsy> [or SDL]
01:07 <guru3> i think the main thing that should worry people here is... since when did gnome-screensaver use directx?
01:08 <epsy> aaaaah so that's whyy it bugs ;)
01:09 <PinkTomato> :). Additionally, is there a gnome function to fix all my tray items etc? the clock keeps moving left along the screen.
01:09 <BabyBug> epsy, what do you mean get a procedure? As in how to disable the screensaver?
01:09 <guru3> PinkTomato: lock to panel?
01:09 <epsy> yes
01:10 <guru3> good night guys
01:10 <BabyBug> System > Preferences > Screensaver > Untick Activate screensaver when computer is idle?
01:10 <PinkTomato> night guru3 :)
01:11 <PinkTomato> ty
01:11 <PinkTomato> so simple :)
01:11 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: Then you won't have a screensaver?
01:11 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, That's the only way around it for now =P
01:12 <PinkTomato> or i could script it to turn it off, run the program, and then switch it back on :D
01:13 <epsy> BabyBug: guess so
01:13 <epsy> well, you can use xscreensaver otherwise
01:14 <BabyBug> Couldn't you put a hack in arma to call gnome-screensave-command --inhibit? xD
01:16 <epsy> BabyBug, where are the improvements going huh? :)
01:17 <BabyBug> epsy, what?
01:18 <epsy> :D
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01:21 <BabyBug> hrmm...Is it me or have the amount of arma servers increased a fair bit?
01:22 <epsy> ¦×¦ sumo, FTS and café?
01:22 <PinkTomato> 117 servers
01:23 <BabyBug> The server list in the armagetron just got 150 servers =\
01:24 <PinkTomato> ah but quite a few are mis configured
01:24 <PinkTomato> ?
01:24 <epsy> how many are unreachable?
01:24 <PinkTomato> there are 1.2 players for each server.
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03:18 <madmax> evil: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/001196.html
03:41 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/slyshot/quimica-1.aamap.xml: Resource by slyshot
04:03 <Lucifer> er, how do I authenticate?  ;)
04:04  * BabyBug cuddles Lucifer 
04:16 <Lucifer> what's PLAYER_TIME_TOTAL measured in?
04:16 <Lucifer> seconds?
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05:06 <dlh> #sd -v limbo
05:06 <armabot> dlh: --> In Limbo ( running 0.2.8_alpha20081209 unix dedicated, url: http://launchpad.net/~dlh, Description: “Ramps and flying cycles! Real grinding. Restricted wall-humping and 180-ing.“, Players (6/10): Carnage, cole, free kill, Lucifer, nubeuro, Shumaru
05:07 <Lucifer> heh, that OSD killed me
05:10 <dlh> heh
05:12  * Lucifer wants a fort game
05:13 <dlh> difficult to find one at this time
05:14 <dlh> it's best to play when all the european players are too
05:23 <Lucifer> someone come to flag fortress
05:23 <ct|kyle> ok
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06:25 <Lucifer> that's a pretty neat server
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07:39 <Lucifer> wrtlprnft: ping
07:41 <luke-jr> Lucifer: werewolf? :/
07:41 <Lucifer> er, no?
07:42 <luke-jr> aw
07:42 <Lucifer> trying to figure out why the map won't do what the docs say it should do :)
07:44 <Lucifer> ok, I give up
07:47 <hang3r> don't give up hope Lucifer!
07:47 <Lucifer> heh
07:48 <Lucifer> hey, come play fort with me
07:48 <Lucifer> I'm getting beat up by manta's chatbot
07:48 <hang3r> I cant, armagetron is too hard
07:48 <hang3r> didn't you read my rant
07:49 <hang3r> And no luke-jr, I won't be joining #anime, but thanks for the invite
07:51 <Lucifer> no, I didn't read your rant
07:51 <hang3r> Plus I don't get much time to myself any more, work takes it all, that plus I'm in the design phase of my own game
07:51 <Lucifer> wait, is it on the forums?
07:51 <Lucifer> plus plus plus
07:51 <hang3r> no it was on irc
07:51 <Lucifer> then no, I probably didn't see it
07:51 <Lucifer> care to repeat it?  ;)
07:52 <Lucifer> now it's my chatbot against batmasterson
07:53 <hang3r> Dec 11 11:31:42 <hang3r>	Wow, I decided to download the latest SVN version of armagetronad 3.0alpha, nice work guys, I actually cant even work out how to play the game, and I'm not exactly new to armagetron, mind you I haven't played in years. Just some constructive criticism for you all to think about
07:53 <hang3r> Dec 11 11:32:35 <hang3r>	Joined a server "Sorry, you must play 2 mins blah blah blah", err no.
07:53 <hang3r> Dec 11 11:33:15 <hang3r>	went into local game, "wow I'm watching bots now, how do I actually join my own local game?" ...
07:54 <hang3r> Dec 11 11:34:15 <hang3r>	Do I have to press secret key combinations?
07:54 <hang3r> Dec 11 11:34:30 <hang3r>	Seems so...
07:54 <hang3r> Dec 11 11:35:27 <hang3r>	You may want to take a step back and KEEP IT SIMPLE!
07:54 <hang3r> Dec 12 12:05:09 <hang3r>	No, I needed to disable spectator mode, I was just making you aware of the first perspective of someone new to AA
07:54 <hang3r> Dec 12 12:07:25 <hang3r>	*How do I join* *How do I ask the other players how I join* *I can't find the chat key* *I cant find the key setup page*
07:54 <Lucifer> I ran into the same thing, heh
07:55 <hang3r> Dec 12 12:10:44 <hang3r>	Not having a go at armagetron, I just felt like having a game (haven't played in over a year), downloaded and compiled the latest trunk from SVN at sourceforge, attempted to play and felt really lost
07:55 <Lucifer> I didn't disable spectator mode, though, I hacked user.cfg to set the time setting
07:55 <hang3r> Dec 12 12:14:23 <hang3r>	feedback is good, any new player at that stage would have almost given up, "too hard, plenty of other games, can't be bothered".
07:55 <hang3r> yeah ok, you get the picture
07:55 <luke-jr> stfu
07:55 <Lucifer> latest trunk != release, though
07:55 <hang3r> I'm well aware of that
07:56 <hang3r> Dont you start luke, I can e-punch.
07:58 <Lucifer> I suspect there's a bug in the mechanism that stopped me from playing local game
07:58 <Lucifer> like spectator_mode got kicked on on the server, but didn't get reset when I went to local game
07:58 <Lucifer> so what game are you designing?
07:59 <hang3r> Ever played tremulous?
08:02 <hang3r> Basically It's like that, however it's set in space from the first person view of a pilot (wing commander style). So to sum it up, a FPS in space with team based gameplay, ability to defend your base, attack your opponents.
08:08 <Lucifer> never played tremulous
08:08 <Lucifer> tried a few times, but had much the same experience with it that you just described with arma :)
08:10 <hang3r> haha, opensource ftl
08:10  * hang3r hides from luke
08:23 <hang3r> I keep getting segfaults in the server browser, and I can see the right most part of the servers name constantly changing to random characters, like a string somewhere isn't terminated
08:47 <Lucifer> are you running the trunk?
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09:01 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer: pong
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09:46 <Lucifer> wrtlprnft: heh, ping again
09:57 <hang3r> 46 minutes of latency, nice guys
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10:15 <hoop> how are the spawn points assigned every round? eg: in fortress are the start positions switched between teams? or not?
10:17 <hoop> there's a topic on forums, can't find it anymore, talking about making a fort server forcing an "attackers vs defenders" game when players number is low, where there's only one zone in the map
10:18 <hoop> so I'd like to know which way the zone is going to be assigned
10:29 <Lucifer> closest team
10:41 <hoop> mm, my question is: will team's position be switched every time, or what?
10:43 <hoop> the thing I'm looking for is to make it so the attacking team will be defending the next round, etc
11:14 <hoop> noob13: you'd be intersted setting up a test server like that?
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11:47 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer: still there?
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12:58 <Lucifer> wrtlprnft: well, I'm going to bed, sorry
12:58 <Lucifer> wrtlprnft: do the mapmodes work?  In the trunk, I mean.  I couldn't get them to work at all, the toggle just turns the map on and off
12:58 <Lucifer> wrtlprnft: maybe I did something wrong?  ;)
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14:13 <BabyBug> \o
14:13 <epsy> \o BabyBug
14:15 <K-Yo> G5, hey
14:34 <Lizmatic> g'morning
14:37  * BabyBug cuddles Lizmatic 
14:39 <Lizmatic> hello lover. ^^
14:40 <K-Yo> Monkey_arma, I'm back :P
14:40 <Monkey_arma> hey K-Yo
14:40 <K-Yo> :)
14:40 <K-Yo> who's for some fort?
14:40 <Monkey_arma> i would be but not many people....
14:40 <K-Yo> 2 atm
14:40 <Monkey_arma> ..
14:41 <Lizmatic> i would but im playing wow :x
14:41 <K-Yo> hehe
14:41 <K-Yo> .ctos
14:41 <tronner> K-Yo: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo: Players (3/12): -»|$øØ M, .goo, ReapeR
14:41 <K-Yo> .si o.s
14:41 <tronner> K-Yo: ¦×¦.Team.Sumo.Server: Players (0/16):
14:41 <K-Yo> .servers
14:41 <tronner> K-Yo: This data is 10301 seconds old; The YELLOW Submarine (13/16), Strawberry Fields (6/16), WILDCAT (5/8), Crazy Tronners Wild Sumo (5/10), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (5/12), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (4/12), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (3/12), |FA| BLACK TAR (2/16), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (2/12), |FA| BLACK ICE (1/16), AfroTHUNDER! (1/10), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (1 more message)
14:41 <K-Yo> #servers
14:41 <armabot> K-Yo: This data is 4 seconds old; The YELLOW Submarine (11/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (9/10), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (8/16), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (6/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Sumo (6/10), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (6/14), Bugfarm Elimination Sumo (5/16), WILDCAT (5/8), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (4/12), z0mbie Nati0n (3/10), ~*SpeederS*~ (1 more message)
14:41 <K-Yo> .ady
14:41 <tronner> K-Yo: Crazy Tronners Wild Sumo: Players (5/10): $[.A.N.D.O]$, -»|Xyron, FrEeToSk8bRd, Niii, TheN00b
14:42 <K-Yo> .si bugf
14:42 <tronner> K-Yo: Bugfarm Elimination Sumo: Players (0/16):
14:42 <K-Yo> 4
14:42 <epsy> #sd bugf
14:42 <armabot> epsy: Bugfarm Elimination Sumo: Players (5/16): -»|hoop, alf, CT~Voodoo (voodoo@forums), Sin, ubuntu_us3r
14:43 <BabyBug> .tea
14:43 <tronner> BabyBug: Fortress Café: Players (5/32): -»|$øØ M, ?¥¶µ®©, cT¤K-Yo, Desolate (Desolate@forums), noTme
14:43 <epsy> #tea
14:43 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (5/32): -»|$øØ M, ?¥¶µ®©, cT¤K-Yo, Desolate (Desolate@forums), noTme
14:45 <Lizmatic> .spam
14:45 <BabyBug> .smooch
14:45 <Lizmatic> xDDD
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14:57 <Lizmatic> .tea
14:57 <tronner> Lizmatic: Fortress Café: Players (10/32): ?¥¶µ®©, BabyBug, CT×Concord (Concord@forums), cT¤K-Yo, Desolate (Desolate@forums), epsy¦×¦ (epsy@forums), Monkey (Monkey@forums), noTme, Pink Tomatoes, Sentinal
15:17 <BabyBug> .ls Flex
15:17 <tronner> BabyBug: timed out
15:17 <BabyBug> ><
15:30 <ct|kyle> guru3: forums down or just extremely slow?
15:31 <K-Yo> .ls conco
15:31 <tronner> K-Yo: CT×Concord has last been seen on Fortress Test Server 7 minutes ago.
15:31 <ct|kyle> .cters
15:31 <tronner> ct|kyle: This data is 13324 seconds old: Nothing found.
15:31 <ct|kyle> o0
15:32 <K-Yo> ct|kyle, liv's data is ALWYAS very old, why?
15:33 <K-Yo> #si test
15:33 <armabot> K-Yo: Fortress Test Server: Players (6/16): CT×Conkord, CT§ÅÐ¥±£µ¢îfe®, epsy¦×¦, noob13, Pink Tomatoes, ~|DS|~ Judders
15:33 <ct|kyle> K-Yo: now it is new :)
15:33 <K-Yo> .servers
15:33 <tronner> K-Yo: This data is 26 seconds old; [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (12/12), The YELLOW Submarine (12/16), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (9/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (8/10), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (8/14), |FA| BLACK TAR (7/16), Crazy Tronners Wild Sumo (7/10), Wild West  =Sumo= (6/14), Fortress Test Server (6/16), WILDCAT (5/8), {Delicious Desserts} High Rubber (5/10), SPACEZONE I [HIGH (2 more messages)
15:34 <K-Yo> ct|kyle, how come?
15:38 <Lizmatic> .tea
15:38 <tronner> Lizmatic: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
15:38 <Lizmatic> aw! just when i can play
15:39 <BabyBug> you missed your chance!!
15:39 <Lizmatic> I know! :<
15:40 <guru3> ct|kyle: just slow i think
15:41 <Lizmatic> babe, come crazy tronners wild sumo
15:41 <Lizmatic> :D
15:42 <BabyBug> coming!
15:43 <BabyBug> awww full ='(
15:43 <K-Yo> #tea
15:43 <armabot> K-Yo: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
15:43 <K-Yo> BabyBug, not full anymore
15:43 <BabyBug> \o/
15:49 <armabot> fts_feedback: epsy¦×¦ - hello! || CT×Conkord - I'm not crazy about that map, maybe rectangle with accel rim || epsy¦×¦ - I'd say that would be more appropriate for some CTF
15:59 <armabot> fts_feedback: CT×Conkord - lack of individual scores is great, though scoring still needs to be revisited
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16:10 <armabot> fts_feedback: CT×Conkord - we should try to make fortress more fluid, and matches are time based not round based
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16:17 <mib_jvsggf> Hi!
16:17 <K-Yo> hi mib_jvsggf !
16:18 <mib_jvsggf> More like TaZ
16:18 <mib_jvsggf> lul
16:18 <mib_jvsggf> It said I was banned...
16:18 <PinkTomato> what did you say?
16:18 <mib_jvsggf> Nothing..
16:18 <mib_jvsggf> Let me try again.
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16:19 <PinkTomato> hi TaZ
16:19 <TaZ> ok, now it works.
16:19 <TaZ> Hi PinkTomato
16:19 <TaZ> :)
16:19 <PinkTomato> hi :)
16:21 -!- Ady-Lucifer [n=Admin@76.Red-83-61-154.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #armagetron
16:21 <TaZ> Hey Ady-Lucifer( The better version of Lucifer)
16:21 -!- emphasis [n=rolf@123-130-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)]
16:22 <Ady-Lucifer> hi TaZ ,me's no better than anyone :)
16:22 <TaZ> Nah, you're nicer than lucifer though
16:22 <TaZ> :P
16:23  * BabyBug begs to differ
16:23 <TaZ> xD
16:23 <Ady-Lucifer> </3
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16:26  * Ady-Lucifer is back (gone 00:01:32)
16:26  * Ady-Lucifer is away: afk
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16:46 <epsy> #quote add <TaZ> Ady-Lucifer: Nah, you're nicer than lucifer though
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16:46 <armabot> epsy: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
16:46 <epsy> boo
16:46 <K-Yo> #quote add <TaZ> Ady-Lucifer: Nah, you're nicer than lucifer though
16:46 <armabot> K-Yo: The operation succeeded.  Quote #82 added.
16:46 <K-Yo> ;)
16:48 <TaZ> lool
16:49 <epsy> this banner looks funny on an LCD
16:49 <BabyBug> ?
16:50 <epsy> when your eyes are looking from the bottom there is no glow, from top it glows quite much Oo
16:50 <epsy> BabyBug: http://playfortress.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/screenshot_1100-banner2.png
16:51 <BabyBug> why does it look funny on an LCD? :s
16:51 <epsy> move it on your screen
16:51 <BabyBug> ok.........
16:51 <BabyBug> ?
16:52 <epsy> when on top it does not glow much and on bottom it does
16:52 <epsy> at least on mine
16:53 <TaZ> epsy: Are u ok?
16:54 <epsy> #quote get 82
16:54 <armabot> epsy: Quote #82: "<TaZ> Ady-Lucifer: Nah, you're nicer than lucifer though" (added by K-Yo at 04:46 PM, December 13, 2008)
16:54  * epsy returns the question
16:54 <TaZ> lul, it's true though..
16:54 <epsy> srsly?
16:54 <TaZ> ya
16:55  * epsy really doubts that
16:55 <PinkTomato> epsy: no difference here :S
16:55 <TaZ> Excuse me epsy, but Ady-Lucifer has never kicked me from a channel.
16:55 <epsy> PinkTomato, CRT?
16:55 <TaZ> :D
16:55 <PinkTomato> TFT
16:55 <epsy> TaZ, because he can't?
16:55 <Lizmatic> because he isnt admin anywhere
16:55 <Lizmatic> doh
16:56 <TaZ> He wouldn't if he could though
16:56 <epsy> LOL
16:56 <Lizmatic> hahaha
16:56 <TaZ> Yall stop giving Ady-Lucifer a hard time. :p
16:56 <Lizmatic> why do you think he isnt admin
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16:56 <TaZ> eww.Lizmatic
16:57 <TaZ> SaSoRi
16:57 <Lizmatic> ????
16:57 <TaZ> :)
16:57 <Lizmatic> whats your point?
16:57 <TaZ> Nothing???
16:57 <Lizmatic> indeed, so shut up
16:57 <TaZ> Geez, no need to get all defensive
16:57 <TaZ> ;)
16:58 <Lizmatic> whats the point in calling me sasori?
16:58 <TaZ> Because it was your old name?? lol..
16:58 <Lizmatic> and..?
16:58 <TaZ> hmm
16:58 <TaZ> Lizmatic: Are u ok?
16:58 <Lizmatic> nobrainlolz
16:59 <Lizmatic> I'm fine player_1
16:59 <TaZ> You get defensive easily. :)
16:59 <Lizmatic> you like pointing out the obvious don't you?
17:00 <Lizmatic> "your old name was sasori lololz" "you get defensive easily lolololz"
17:00 <TaZ> of course! lool
17:00 <epsy> Lizmatic, well, we're doing the same
17:00 <Lizmatic> DIAF
17:00 <Lizmatic> DIAF
17:00 <Lizmatic> xD
17:00 <Lizmatic> god, my irc is fucked..
17:00  * BabyBug brutually stabs TaZ multiple times
17:00 <TaZ> Lizmatic: Reverting back to your "old self" aren't you?
17:00 <epsy> you got an IRC?
17:00 <Lizmatic> i gots an irc
17:00  * TaZ dies from wounds
17:00 <epsy> Lizmatic, LisNet?
17:01 <epsy> irc.lis.net?
17:01  * Lizmatic is confused
17:01 <epsy> zomg u r l33t
17:01  * Lizmatic agrees 100%
17:01 -!- Paralyzed [n=Paralyze@24-182-39-195.static.lnbh.ca.charter.com] has joined #armagetron
17:01 <Paralyzed> hai peeps
17:01 <TaZ> Hey Paralyzed
17:01 <epsy> quick, let's hide
17:02 <PinkTomato> lol :D
17:02 <Paralyzed> epsy: die.
17:02 <PinkTomato> hi Paralyzed, TaZ
17:02 <TaZ> PinkTomato: :)
17:02 <epsy> forum's being on fire :x
17:02 <Lizmatic> which forum
17:02 <Paralyzed> pink
17:02 <epsy> lisforums
17:02 <Paralyzed> potatoes :)
17:02 <Paralyzed> lol epsy
17:03 <Paralyzed> speaking of list on wiki page
17:03 <Lizmatic> lo0l
17:03 <Paralyzed> ricochet was not leader of xclan?
17:03 <epsy> oops, I meant lisahahahahahaforums
17:03 <PinkTomato> no arma forums ;'(
17:03 <epsy> yeah but fofo made him go disabled
17:04 -!- Lizmatic is now known as Lis
17:04 <Paralyzed> im getting ubunut >:)
17:04  * Lis ahaha
17:04 <epsy> he ubunuts?
17:04 <Paralyzed> LOL
17:04 <epsy> scratch that he
17:04 <Paralyzed> ubuntu :)
17:04 <TaZ> :D
17:04 <TaZ> Paralyzed: You still in Ns?
17:04 <Paralyzed> PinkTomato: where's chaos :P
17:04 <epsy> Paralyzed, nah, we're anarchists
17:04 <Paralyzed> Yes, i'm co leader
17:05 <TaZ> Do you think R is good?
17:05 <Lis> If I ignore someone on irc, does it work in private chat too?
17:05 <epsy> P is better
17:06 <epsy> Lis, you have the choice
17:06 <Paralyzed> Well, i woudlnt joiin R
17:06 <Paralyzed> put it that way :)
17:06 <Paralyzed> id join enders bit clan first LOL
17:06 <TaZ> lol, ok that answers it
17:06 <TaZ> omg lol
17:06 <TaZ> Are you serious?
17:06 <epsy> [17:05] <Paralyzed>: id join enders bit clan first LOL
17:06 <epsy> that gives a good idea of the LMS clan field
17:07 <PinkTomato> LMS clan field?
17:07 <Paralyzed> lawl espy
17:07 <Paralyzed> take a look at HOW MANY players in bit
17:07 <Paralyzed> SO MANY :)
17:07 <Paralyzed> http://bitclan.iforums.us
17:07 <PinkTomato> he did just start it...
17:07 <Paralyzed> true
17:07 <TaZ> Yea he did.
17:07 <epsy> PinkTomato, clans that play LMS?
17:07 <Paralyzed> but im makign a point
17:07 <TaZ> I was supriesed he left ID..
17:07 <Paralyzed> besides that fact taz
17:08 <Paralyzed> i dont like r because
17:08 <Paralyzed> marshmellow can be a jerk
17:08 <PinkTomato> I don't know what LMS means :S
17:08 <Paralyzed> and as well as others
17:08 <epsy> last man standing
17:08 <PinkTomato> ah right :D
17:08 <Paralyzed> only respectable person in R tbh is tobe
17:08 <epsy> wtf is R btw?
17:08 <Paralyzed> Renagades  i think lol
17:08 <TaZ> Funny thing is, we were going to merge with R.
17:08 <Paralyzed> _~R~_
17:09 <Paralyzed> lol
17:09 <Paralyzed> R asked d3m to merge
17:09 <BabyBug> TaZ, you're such a boob =P
17:09 <TaZ> shh, don't tell no one.
17:09 <Paralyzed> just to get ctfs division
17:09 <epsy> VcLr
17:09 <Paralyzed> and this is after i left d3m
17:09 <TaZ> Paralyzed: Wait, you serous?
17:09 <Paralyzed> yes
17:09 <TaZ> Dem sucked
17:09 <Paralyzed> lol thats why i left
17:09 <Paralyzed> i went clanless for 2 months
17:09 <TaZ> No epsy, Noodles idea was: VcR
17:09 <TaZ> We were like...
17:09 <Paralyzed> then i joined "|PwN|
17:09 <epsy> BabyBug, ..coming from you..
17:09 <TaZ> "nah"
17:10 <epsy> do you even want to merge with them?
17:10 <Lis> just because she has boobs, doesn't mean she is one!
17:10 <Paralyzed> taz
17:10 <TaZ> yes
17:10 <Paralyzed> what divison are you based on
17:10 <epsy> ok
17:10 <Paralyzed> meaning the one your best at
17:10 <TaZ> Sumo and High Rubber
17:10 <Paralyzed> Hmm
17:10 <epsy> flying cycles
17:10 <TaZ> But soon we are creating a CTF division
17:10 <Paralyzed> VcL is a good sumo division
17:10 <epsy> and a flying cycles one
17:10 <TaZ> Fort will probably be the last division we create
17:10 <Paralyzed> check the clan list for other more clans that are alive that do sumo
17:10 <TaZ> Yea, we do
17:10 <Paralyzed> R isnt much of a sumo clan
17:11 <Paralyzed> Ns has a sumo division but about 4 people
17:11 <Paralyzed> as of high rubber
17:11 <Paralyzed>  you might want id or fw?
17:11 <TaZ> I know, but since we thinking about creating a ctf division, we thought it would be the perfect choice
17:11 <epsy> what about having the clanlist in alphabetical order?
17:11 <TaZ> Nah, ID won
17:11 <TaZ> won't merge with us*
17:11 <Paralyzed> we have fixed it epsy
17:11 <epsy> no way, they won
17:12 <Paralyzed> fw is a high rubber df sumo type of thing
17:12 <Paralyzed> but i like id more :)
17:12 <Paralyzed> more respecatable people
17:12 <TaZ> Twinx left Ns because of ratchet, right?
17:12 <epsy> Paralyzed, did you? ¦×¦ is showing in thefirst three
17:12 <Paralyzed> no
17:12 <Paralyzed> i kicked twinx
17:12 <TaZ> And we hate FW (huy and boxer) haha
17:12 <TaZ> Why?
17:12 <Paralyzed> you know what CTF is right?
17:12 <Paralyzed> well we were playing ctfs
17:12 <TaZ> yea
17:13 <Paralyzed> and its not really cool when people wall
17:13 <TaZ> yea
17:13 <Paralyzed> twinx did it repately for 5 matches
17:13 <Paralyzed> he was polled 3 times
17:13 <Paralyzed> and i asked him
17:13 <epsy> the ctf where you can blow holes by shooting?
17:13 <TaZ> yes
17:13 <epsy> uhm
17:13 <Paralyzed> i said
17:13 <PinkTomato> you should be allowed to do whatever the game allows
17:13 <Paralyzed> if you dont stop this i will be forced to kick you
17:13 <epsy> shooting is already quite fucked up..but blowing holes just by pressing brake..
17:14 <Paralyzed> yes but players where complaining
17:14 <Paralyzed> continously
17:14 <PinkTomato> so?
17:14 <Paralyzed> i politely asked him to stop and playu
17:14 <PinkTomato> that's because they haden't thought of it
17:14 <Paralyzed> he wasnt even playing or doing it because he had too
17:14 <Paralyzed> he was just
17:14 <Paralyzed> SPAWN go to wall
17:14 <Paralyzed> no one was attacking him
17:14 <TaZ> ...lol
17:14 <Paralyzed> no one around
17:14 <Paralyzed> im serious he was just heading for wal
17:14 <TaZ> I heard he was fighting maZe though
17:15 <Paralyzed> maZe is nat
17:15 <TaZ> yes
17:15 <epsy> but that's fucked up as hell
17:15 <epsy> what is defense worth then?
17:15 <Paralyzed> listen i understand where you all are coming from
17:15 <Paralyzed> people can wall yes
17:15 <Paralyzed> but you have to play in the arena sometimes
17:15 <epsy> just come by, blow a hole, and driver out with the flag
17:15 <Paralyzed> its a disadvantage if someone is shooting off the wall
17:15 <Paralyzed> and no one can hit them
17:15 <PinkTomato> so?
17:15 <PinkTomato> but everyone can do the same
17:15 <epsy> but there are walls
17:15 <Paralyzed> it takes the fun out of getting legit kills
17:16 <PinkTomato> How is it a disadvantage if you can do it too?
17:16 <epsy> legit kills means shots?
17:16 <epsy> since when is armagetron an FPS?
17:16 <Paralyzed> it just ruins the whole point of capture the flag
17:16 <TaZ> I heard that he was fighting maze 1v1, then ratchet kicked him because he would not respawn
17:16 <Paralyzed> if everyone is on the wall
17:16 <Paralyzed> no one is inside the arena
17:16 <Paralyzed> there just having a big wall fest
17:16 <epsy> shooting ruins the purpose of armagetron
17:16 <PinkTomato> TaZ: why didn't you kick maze?
17:16 <PinkTomato> obv maze wasn't respawning either
17:17 <Paralyzed> maze is not in ns
17:17 <TaZ> PinkTomato: We werr about to, but she left before we did
17:17 <Lis> I've never liked CTF tbh
17:17 <PinkTomato> and also, if you wanted respawning don't die in the first place
17:17 <TaZ> :)
17:17 <Paralyzed> maze was in vcl, never in ns
17:17 <TaZ> Yea
17:17 <epsy> they respawn when they can
17:17 <Paralyzed> Just put it this way
17:17 <Paralyzed> its hard to play if an opponent is on the wall and its nearly impossible to shoot them
17:17 <epsy> you can't respawn all the time
17:17 <Paralyzed> i find it as cheating.
17:18 <Lis> .tea
17:18 <epsy> Paralyzed, then kill him normally?
17:18 <tronner> Lis: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
17:18 <Paralyzed> you can wall when your in trouble
17:18 <Paralyzed> but they were doing it in the sense of getting people annoyed
17:18 <Paralyzed> that was his main purpose..
17:18 <Paralyzed> so people would get pissed.
17:18 <TaZ> Do you think you overreacted in kicking Twinx?
17:18 <Paralyzed> I could've.
17:19 <Paralyzed> IT was mainly ratchet who pulled the gun
17:19 <Paralyzed> the trigger * :) on theg un
17:19 <Paralyzed> gun* !
17:19 <TaZ> Yes, that's what I heard.
17:19 <epsy> he's just demonstrating how shooting suicks
17:19 <Paralyzed> no
17:19 <Paralyzed> i saw him at a point
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17:19 <Paralyzed> but you guys must understand
17:19 <Paralyzed> the fun is ruined if your not using skill to play
17:20 <Paralyzed> walling is no skill at all
17:20 <Paralyzed> Yes, i wall
17:20 <PinkTomato> You see
17:20 <Paralyzed> but not the whole game
17:20 <epsy> blowing a hole in a defense is no skill at all
17:20 <Paralyzed> i wall for like 2 seconds if im slowed down
17:20 <epsy> neither it is a sacrifice of yourself, since you're using the shot to get through
17:20 <Paralyzed> epsy it actually beleive it or not takes skill
17:20 <TaZ> This is why I don't like shooting servers.
17:20 <epsy> TaZ, same
17:20 <Paralyzed> you can stop people from holing
17:21 <epsy> TaZ, plain shooting deathmatch can be fun tho
17:21 <Paralyzed> just charge a .9 of a break and shoot at flag when you see there going to hole
17:21 <epsy> you can stop people from rimming
17:21 <epsy> just as well
17:21 <Paralyzed> It's just funny thought most of ctf dislike ctfs
17:21 <epsy> because it's fucked up
17:21 <TaZ> Yea haha
17:22 <PinkTomato> CTF has strange physics
17:22 <Paralyzed> i dont know what it is but i think there afraid of losing pride or respect from palying it
17:22 <Paralyzed> playing*
17:22 <epsy> agreed, that's why I appreciate durka's config
17:22 <PinkTomato> I don't know why CTF has different physics to fort
17:22 <Paralyzed> if people gave it a 7 day trial and get good
17:22 <Paralyzed> or well
17:22 <Paralyzed> or got the concept
17:22 <Paralyzed> im sure they would enjoy it
17:22 <epsy> Paralyzed, was boring
17:22 <Paralyzed> but as always
17:22 <TaZ> I use to play it, but ctf is soo much better
17:22 <Paralyzed> people criticize it before playing it
17:23 <TaZ> I played the ctfs server when it first came out
17:23 <Paralyzed> how can you criticize a game your not even good enought to kill someone at
17:23 <epsy> I didn't really like the "nano" physics already, but the shooting..
17:23 <Paralyzed> im sure you were skeptical about tron when you first started dog fight
17:23 <Paralyzed> or whatever your first gameplay was
17:23 <PinkTomato> tigers network was mine
17:23 <epsy> arma is not an fps, in armagetron you have to kill people by driving them into your wall in order to win the round/match
17:24 <TaZ> lol, exactly
17:24 <Paralyzed> well
17:24 <Lis> lets create an aimbot for CTF
17:24 <Lis> :D
17:24 <Paralyzed> theres people who can rely on reflexes and dodge skills
17:24 <Paralyzed> and theres some who cant XD
17:24 <epsy> that's the purpose of armagetron
17:24 <PinkTomato> there are no speedblast servers anymore :D
17:24 <Paralyzed> well
17:24 <Paralyzed> ever think that could get boring
17:24 <epsy> Paralyzed, play a non-unlagged server on your FPS of choice
17:24 <TaZ> lolz
17:24 <Paralyzed> espy
17:24 <Paralyzed> if thats what your saying
17:24 <Paralyzed> then therese no need for ctf
17:24 <epsy> my name is not espy
17:24 <Paralyzed> just sumo fortress and dogfight
17:24 <hoop> epsy: did u set up fort test server?
17:25 <Paralyzed> epsy*
17:25 <epsy> ctf fits the theme
17:25 <Paralyzed> if the purpose is to drive people
17:25 <Paralyzed> but just thats just being stupid
17:25 <Paralyzed> how can you say its for driving players into your wall
17:25 <Paralyzed> then go around and say flags are "ok"
17:25 <epsy> hoop, it started alone, but yes, I've set it running correctly
17:25 <Paralyzed> the point of armagetron is not for flags to be brought from one base to another
17:25 <hoop> the duel is cool
17:25 <Paralyzed> according to your theory
17:26 <epsy> Paralyzed, you got to drive the defender into your wall to get the flag, don't you?
17:26 <PinkTomato> the point of CTF is to get the most points
17:26 <Paralyzed> not necissarily
17:26 <PinkTomato> bringing the flag back to base is not always the best option
17:26 <epsy> to, it's to capture the flag
17:26 <Paralyzed> yes , but you just stated
17:26 <PinkTomato> I might catch the flag
17:26 <epsy> you got to kill people to catch the flag
17:26 <PinkTomato> and then i'm target to be killed
17:26 <Paralyzed> "the point of armagetron is to kill the  oponent by driving them into your wall"
17:27 <epsy> you got to kill people to catch the flag
17:27 <PinkTomato> and then I can kill lots of people
17:27 <Paralyzed> you can grind on a defenders wall to drive them in closer and closer
17:27 <epsy> Paralyzed, you missed a very important part of my quote
17:27 <TaZ> The point is, the way you kill people is to drive people into your wall
17:27 <epsy> actually, it's not to win the round or something, it's to achieve whatever you need to achieve to win the round
17:27 <epsy> or the match
17:27 <PinkTomato> If i keep the flag, kill 3 people, I get 10 points
17:28 <Paralyzed> ok
17:28 <PinkTomato> If i speedily returned the flag
17:28 <PinkTomato> Iwould only get 4
17:28 <Paralyzed> so is shooting so MUCH different
17:28 <epsy> TaZ, and you have to kill people to be able to do anything
17:28 <Paralyzed> you can shoot someone , forcing them to dodge
17:28 <epsy> Paralyzed, obviousely
17:28 <Paralyzed> then you can trap an opponent
17:28 <Paralyzed> shooting its just a distant way of a kill
17:28 <Paralyzed>  i dont see why people complain about it
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17:28 <epsy> Paralyzed, dodging and aiming is for the FPS genre
17:28 <Paralyzed> they say it takes no skill
17:28 <Paralyzed> and then the get in a suck
17:28 <epsy> I did not say that
17:28 <Paralyzed> like afro did
17:29 <epsy> I said it does not belong to armagetron
17:29 <luke-jr> ivantis:
17:29 <TaZ> Actually, I like different server ideas.
17:29 <Paralyzed> well ep
17:29 <Paralyzed> that being said
17:29 <Paralyzed> dun play it :)
17:30 <Paralyzed> and then complain
17:30 <epsy> I don't play it
17:30 <Paralyzed> because theres over 20 people who do like ctfs
17:30 <Paralyzed> and who do play it
17:30 <TaZ> People have different preferences epsy.
17:30 <Paralyzed> point exactly
17:30 <epsy> TaZ, ok
17:30 <PinkTomato> and people have IRC to express their opinons
17:30 <epsy> TaZ, and?
17:30 <Lis> but...your preferences are stupid....
17:30 <Lis> :P
17:30 <Paralyzed> i beleive it belongs in armagetron is my oponion
17:30 <epsy> what is the purpose of armagetron
17:31 <epsy> tell us
17:31 <TaZ> Well saying that cfts doesn't belong to armagetron, is your opinion
17:31 <PinkTomato> No! don't start philosopy
17:31 <Paralyzed> to use tactics to kill  an oponent and patience and reflexes
17:31 <epsy> direct application of the project's goals
17:31 <Paralyzed> that is the true goal of it in the end
17:31 <Paralyzed> challenge your mind?
17:31 <TaZ> You should welcome different ideas epsy
17:31  * BabyBug hands a lolipop to Lis 
17:32 <TaZ> I'm not a big fort fan, but apparently you are
17:32 <Paralyzed> use ways to trick an opponent into falling into trap, using swift movements, reflexes, dodging players, manuevering
17:32 <TaZ> It's all about preferences
17:32 <epsy> TaZ, the purpose of armagetron is to imitate and expand on the lightcycle scenes from the movie tron and the game tron 2.0
17:32 <Paralyzed> thats what shooting is based upon
17:33 <epsy> the main basic basic basic rule is: you will need to kill opponents, and to do so, you must throw them into your walls
17:33 <TaZ> Well I'm pretty sure Fortress wasn't in Tron.
17:33 <TaZ> :D
17:33 <epsy> there is no shooting in the lightcycle scenes
17:33 <epsy> [17:32] <epsy>: the main basic basic basic rule is: you will need to kill opponents, and to do so, you must throw them into your walls
17:33 <Paralyzed> epsy
17:33 <luke-jr> epsy: IIRC, Armagetron precedes TRON 2.0
17:33 <Paralyzed> i need to see this armagetron rule book your readign
17:33 <TaZ> lol
17:33 <Paralyzed> because i dont see anywhere it says that
17:34 <luke-jr> epsy: not a single server running is true to TRON
17:34  * BabyBug votes for multiple floors in arma!!
17:34 <epsy> http://armagetronad.net/about.php
17:34 <TaZ> Why don't we ask Z-man-work or wrtlprnft
17:34 <Paralyzed> lol baby
17:34 <SageLord> haha interesting baby
17:34 <luke-jr> BabyBug: pfft
17:34 <luke-jr> I want a cube
17:34 <TaZ> Make a mariokart server :P
17:34 <Paralyzed> its based upon that
17:34 <Lis> well, I vote for different classes.. warlock, mage, etc
17:34 <BabyBug> But nooooooooooooooooo cause arma is 2D
17:34 <luke-jr> or sphere
17:34 <epsy> they will basically say the same
17:34 <Paralyzed> doesnt mean it has to go by that :)
17:34 <BabyBug> what a load of crap
17:34 <Lis> I wanna cast spells
17:34 <Lis> !!!
17:34 <Paralyzed> sumo was never in tron
17:34 <TaZ> lolz
17:34 <Paralyzed> but yet people play it
17:34 <Paralyzed> nor fortress
17:34 <Paralyzed> all there was dogfight
17:34 <Paralyzed> and things branched upon it
17:34 <epsy> Paralyzed, you have to kill people by driving them in your wall
17:34 <luke-jr> http://beta.armagetronad.net/design/reboot.html
17:34 <BabyBug> lol Lis you play WoW...Your opinions are instantly void xD
17:35 <Paralyzed> making it apart of it
17:35 <Paralyzed> so hence
17:35 <Lis> :<
17:35 <Paralyzed> ctfs is attached to tron
17:35 <Lis> FU
17:35 <epsy> nothing said there would ever be a "winner" in the lightcycle scenes
17:35 <BabyBug> FU2
17:35 <Paralyzed> u can do the same in ctfs
17:35 <Lis> :>
17:35 <SageLord> BabyBug:  couldn't you make 2 floors by effectively creating like... 2 areas with a teleport in between?  i mean, the areas could be seperated by a wall
17:35  * PinkTomato wants tile flipping :D
17:35 <luke-jr> http://beta.armagetronad.net/design/reboot.html <-- PinkTomato see here
17:35 <PinkTomato> I saw :D
17:35 <Lis> I want to be able to get out of my cycle and steal someone elses
17:35 <Paralyzed> explain tron soccer
17:35 <luke-jr> lol Lis
17:35 <Paralyzed> aka psycho styball fortress
17:36 <BabyBug> SageLord, I mean real 2 floors...with ramps taking you up to the next one
17:36 <epsy> BabyBug, I'll revise what I said by saying that the only movement controls should be _brake_(and not boost), left and right
17:36 <BabyBug> epsy, That's fine, you'd turn left to go up a ramp...
17:36 <PinkTomato> Have we got vechile width in armagetronad?
17:36 <luke-jr> epsy: fail
17:36 <BabyBug> It's still the same controls...
17:36 <TaZ> eh, why are we arguing about this?
17:36 <luke-jr> epsy: TRON had a boost control
17:36 <epsy> PinkTomato, yes
17:37 <epsy> luke-jr, you said yourself we couldn't imitate TRON 2.0
17:37 <epsy> BabyBug, that's like..wtf??
17:37 <Paralyzed> lol
17:37 <luke-jr> epsy: I did?
17:37 <luke-jr> epsy: also, I am referring to TRON
17:38 <epsy> Paralyzed, in fortress, sumo, ctf, or uhm, LMS, you got to drive people into your walls, which is our basic rule
17:38 <epsy> Paralyzed, with shooting you don't have to, at all
17:39 <Paralyzed> you dont have too
17:39 <Paralyzed> but its still an option
17:39 <Paralyzed> hence inccorperating tron
17:39 <epsy> you should have to
17:39 <Paralyzed> into ctfs
17:39 <luke-jr> in fortress, you don't have to either
17:39 <luke-jr> you could just sit there driving in a square
17:39 <luke-jr> pissing off people who want to get inside
17:39 <Paralyzed> in the movie
17:39 <Paralyzed> he didnt have too
17:39 <epsy> luke-jr, you can do so in LMS as well
17:39 <Paralyzed> they had a race
17:39 <epsy> a race?
17:39 <Paralyzed> and he drove him off far so he had to crash
17:39 <Paralyzed> hold on
17:39 <Paralyzed> it was dogfight like the movie
17:40 <Paralyzed> i will show you what im talking about
17:40 <epsy> depends on what you call dogfight
17:40 <luke-jr> guys
17:40 <luke-jr> the movie wouldn't be fun to play
17:40 <luke-jr> we're beyond the movie
17:40 <Paralyzed> thankyou luke
17:40 <Lis> I suggest we start working on real life tron
17:40 <epsy> luke-jr, we're still bound to these two unique rules
17:40 <Lis> thatd be sweet
17:40  * BabyBug kicks Lis 
17:40 <luke-jr> Lis: yeah, I'm just looking forward to ezploding when I crash
17:40  * Lis cries
17:41 <luke-jr> epsy: no
17:41 <epsy> Lis, ie. brake + turn left + turn right, and you have to kill people by driving them into your walls
17:41 <epsy> luke-jr, *
17:41 <Lis> :D
17:41 <Lis> lets all get on the road and try it!
17:41 <luke-jr> no epsy
17:41 <luke-jr> even TRON was not bound by those rules
17:41 <Paralyzed> http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=31443673
17:41 <Paralyzed> the guy
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17:41 <Paralyzed> DOES NOT TOUCH HIS WALL
17:42 <luke-jr> it should be possible to have multiple axes in different parts of an arena
17:42 <luke-jr> so say you start on 4-axes
17:42 <epsy> yeah, he drives him into a wall
17:42 <luke-jr> when you go somewhere else, you become variable-turns
17:42 <luke-jr> if you go back, you get locked into the 4 axes again
17:42 <epsy> yeah
17:43 <luke-jr> also, maps should be able to define destructible walls
17:43 <luke-jr> that can be destroyed by a crash
17:43 <luke-jr> perhaps with varying weights to affect how much they get destroyed
17:43 <epsy> ^^
17:44 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: ++ to that
17:44 <luke-jr> might be good to have invisible zones with effects such as "delete all player's walls; set his wall length to 0" for one direction, and "set his wall length to default" for the other
17:44 <epsy> luke-jr, I'm not sure but ph may have done that
17:44 <luke-jr> and using Zones v2 to have the zone be "arena size square minus arena content square"
17:45 <epsy> through real support for different physic settings would be a really better playround
17:45 <PinkTomato> won't that require a complete restructure? Globals etc?
17:45 <luke-jr> epsy: I don't think there is the directional thing
17:45 <luke-jr> epsy: there is no way to have per-player wall length right now, I know
17:45 <epsy> PinkTomato, new physics engine needs..a new physics engine..
17:45 <PinkTomato> ah right :D
17:46 <epsy> luke-jr, I could imagine of a hckish way to do so
17:46 <epsy> by modifying the server
17:46 <luke-jr> I'm sure.
17:46 <epsy> but well, that sucks
17:46 <luke-jr> I wonder if ph's zones can be 0-width
17:47 <epsy> as in "occupating no space" ?
17:47 <luke-jr> yeah
17:47 <luke-jr> so the ONLY way to trigger is is to drive perpendicular to it
17:47 <luke-jr> eg, you can't line up and drive along it
17:48 <epsy> well, you gotta have to be at the right place
17:48 <luke-jr> kinda like 0-width walls
17:48 <luke-jr> you can't crash into them unless you're at an angle
17:48 <luke-jr> if you're lined up with them, you will go on either side
17:49 <epsy> luke-jr, have that zone set on a wall
17:49 <luke-jr> hm
17:49 <luke-jr> strictly speaking, I suppose walls would be such zones, but with a specific appearance and causing death :þ
17:50 <epsy> with something to prevent players from going in the wrong direction
17:51 <luke-jr> hey
17:51 <luke-jr> what happens if I make my server send players different values for ARENA_AXES? :D
17:51 <epsy> :D
17:51 <luke-jr> and apply them differently, of course
17:52 <epsy> ah, LOL
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17:52 <luke-jr> it might be doable to have destructible grid walls too?
17:52 <epsy> luke-jr, well, if you use an uneven amount of axes
17:52 <epsy> you will not be able to grind a wall that was made an the other direction than yours
17:54 <luke-jr> of course
17:54 <luke-jr> that's the point behind my circle map
17:54 <luke-jr> epsy: want to hack up a proof-of-concept with me?
17:55 <luke-jr> brb, going to move IRC to my other computer
17:56 <Paralyzed> are you guys still arguin
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17:56 <Paralyzed> ;o
17:56 <Lis> damn fucking hordes!
17:57 <BabyBug> :o
17:57 <hoop> luke-jr: any clue about this map has no preview? http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/Paralyzed/race/loco-2.aamap.xml
17:57 <Paralyzed> hes gone lol
17:57 <hoop> o snap he left
17:57 <Paralyzed> dont say anything
17:57 <Paralyzed> trust me he will be like
17:57 <hoop> epsy?
17:57 <epsy> hoop, luke-jr is the kind of bot that's not in the channel
17:58 <epsy> err, guy
17:58 <Paralyzed> thats what he'll do :0
17:58 <hoop> ok then ^^ epsy: any clue about this map has no preview? http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/Paralyzed/race/loco-2.aamap.xml
17:58 <epsy> no, can't check
17:58 <hoop> FU
17:58 -!- luke-jr [n=luke-jr@2002:48c4:141a:0:20e:a6ff:fec4:4e5d] has joined #armagetron
17:59 <hoop> luke-jr: any clue about this map has no preview? http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/Paralyzed/race/loco-2.aamap.xml
17:59 <luke-jr> meh
17:59 <luke-jr> why is Athlon64 3200+ slower than Pentium M 1.8 GHz? :/
17:59 <luke-jr> hoop: nope
18:00 <hoop> luke-jr d'ya suck?
18:01 <hoop> I WANT THAT PREVIEW! XD
18:01 <luke-jr> hoop: gfy
18:02 <hoop> @g gfy
18:02 <teabot> hoop: http://gofugyourself.celebuzz.com/ - Go Fug Yourself: Because Fugly Is The New Pretty
18:03 <hoop> :oO0
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18:07 <TaZ> @g epsy
18:07 <teabot> TaZ: http://www.epsy.com/ - EPSY - Marketing and Social Research
18:07 -!- luke-jr [n=luke-jr@2002:48c4:141a:0:20e:a6ff:fec4:4e5d] has joined #armagetron
18:07 <TaZ> indeed
18:07 <epsy> @g espy
18:07 <teabot> epsy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESPY_Awards - ESPY Awards - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
18:07 <SageLord> @g SageLord
18:07 <teabot> SageLord: http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/quests.html?fquest=830 - Allakhazam.com: Final Fantasy XI: Quest: Mamool Ja Training ...
18:07 <SageLord> O:
18:08 <PinkTomato> @g "Pink Tomatoes"
18:08 <teabot> PinkTomato: http://www.victoryseeds.com/catalog/vegetable/tomato/tomato_pink.html - Heirloom Tomato Seeds - 100s of Pink &amp; Purple Heirloom Tomato Seed ...
18:08 <SageLord> haha
18:08 <epsy> SageLord, LOL
18:08 <Paralyzed> @g Paralyzed
18:08 <teabot> Paralyzed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paralysis - Paralysis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
18:08 <SageLord> haha
18:08 <Paralyzed> yaya something normal
18:09 <PinkTomato> Pink Tomatoes are normal Oo
18:09 <SageLord> :o
18:09 <Paralyzed> Paralysis is most often caused by damage to the nervous system or brain
18:09 <Paralyzed> thats what i do :)
18:09 <PinkTomato> that's what you did
18:09 <epsy> @g tst
18:09 <teabot> epsy: http://www.tstproducts.com/ - TST Products, Inc.
18:09 <PinkTomato> hence paralyzed
18:09 <Paralyzed> i smack people with bannanas
18:09 <epsy> we haz t3h productz
18:09 <Paralyzed> Paralyzer. should be the name
18:09 <Lis> .tea
18:09 <tronner> Lis: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
18:09 <Paralyzed> @g Ratchet
18:09 <epsy> @g TaZ
18:09 <teabot> Paralyzed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratchet - Ratchet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
18:09 <epsy> rhrh
18:09 <teabot> epsy: http://www.hermetic.com/bey/taz_cont.html - The Temporary Autonomous Zone
18:10 <Paralyzed> TRANSFORMAS
18:10 <epsy> darn
18:10 <epsy> I was awaiting for..TAZERS
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18:10 <Paralyzed> Ratchet (device), a mechanical device for controlling rotational motion
18:10 <Paralyzed> -.-
18:10 <PinkTomato> @g concord
18:10 <teabot> PinkTomato: http://www.concord.edu/ - Welcome to Concord University - Athens, West Virginia
18:10 <Concord> hi
18:10 <Paralyzed> @g armagetron
18:10 <teabot> Paralyzed: http://www.armagetronad.net/ - Armagetron Advanced :: a Tron clone in 3D
18:10 <Paralyzed> hoorah
18:10 <epsy> @g team sumo tournament
18:11 <teabot> epsy: http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/Team+Sumo+Tournament+(gaming) - Team Sumo Tournament (gaming) - What does TST stand for? Acronyms ...
18:11 <Paralyzed> @g fat
18:11 <TaZ> @g Sagelord
18:11 <teabot> Paralyzed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat - Fat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
18:11 <teabot> TaZ: http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/quests.html?fquest=830 - Allakhazam.com: Final Fantasy XI: Quest: Mamool Ja Training ...
18:11 <TaZ> LOLZ I KNEW IT!
18:11 <Lis> @g Lizmatic
18:11 <Lis> whats this game?
18:11 <Lis> o_O
18:11 <teabot> Lis: http://lizmatic.com/ - Lizmatic.com
18:11 <epsy> TaZ, because sage just did I a bit earlier?
18:12 <Lis> ...
18:12 <epsy> lol
18:12 <epsy> Lis, it's called g00gle
18:12 <Paralyzed> @g teabot
18:12 <TaZ> oh...lol
18:12 <teabot> Paralyzed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLETcB-7Zhg - YouTube - TeaBot REFILL!
18:12 <Paralyzed> LOL?
18:12 <epsy> :D
18:12 <TaZ> @g luke-jr
18:12 <teabot> TaZ: http://lukejr.com/ - Luke Jr &lt;Home&gt;
18:12 <TaZ> Results: loser
18:12 <Paralyzed> That really is a tea bot :o
18:13 <epsy> @cupofteaplease
18:13 <teabot> Certainly, it would be a pleasure seeing as you asked so nicely.
18:13 <Paralyzed> @luke loser
18:13 <Paralyzed> NO RESULTS
18:13 <Paralyzed> ===AMAZING===
18:13 <TaZ> lolz
18:13 <epsy> @list google
18:13 <teabot> epsy: cache, calc, fight, lucky, meta, phonebook, spell, and stats
18:14 <epsy> @fight armagetron armagetronad
18:14 <teabot> epsy: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
18:14 <epsy> fu
18:14 <TaZ> ahaha
18:14 <Paralyzed> @ @
18:14 <TaZ> That youtube video was disturbing
18:14 <Paralyzed> :)
18:14 <Paralyzed> lol with the tea bot?
18:14 <epsy> no with fofo
18:14 <TaZ> lol yes
18:14 <Paralyzed> it looked like this show my neice watches
18:14 <Paralyzed> mickey mouse or something
18:15 <TaZ> What kind of show is your niece watching?
18:15 <TaZ> haha
18:15 <TaZ> That's nothing like Mickey Mouse..
18:15 <Concord> @g play fortress
18:15 <Paralyzed> well.
18:15 <teabot> Concord: http://www.blitzgamer.com/play_games/strategy/206/fortress-game.html - Play Fortress Game Now - Fortress Game Flash Game @ BLITZ GAMER!
18:15 <Paralyzed> the objects come to lif
18:15 <Paralyzed> @teabot
18:15 <TaZ> It's a shame you euros never got t watch Rocko's Modern Life, or are you afraid of the dark
18:15 <Paralyzed> @ teabot
18:16 <Paralyzed> @fantastic contraptio
18:16 <epsy> because TV is l33t huh taz
18:16 <TaZ> @ g Rocko's modern Life
18:16 <Paralyzed> @fcontraption
18:16 <teabot> TaZ: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocko's_Modern_Life - Rocko&#39;s Modern Life - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
18:16 <Paralyzed> come on
18:16 <Paralyzed> @fantasti
18:16 <Paralyzed> >.>
18:17 <PinkTomato> we had that rubbish
18:17 <PinkTomato> so :P
18:17 <Paralyzed> 70 percent downloaded of ubuntu
18:17 <Paralyzed> after an hour and half
18:18 <PinkTomato> it's still slow
18:18 <Paralyzed> what is
18:18 <Paralyzed> i built an ipod dock
18:18 <Paralyzed> out of a coardboard box
18:18 <PinkTomato> 490MB in 1 hour and a half
18:18 <Paralyzed> and dollar store speakers
18:18 <TaZ> @ g Rocko's modern Life youtube
18:18 <teabot> TaZ: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2MlMyrcUjY - YouTube - Rocko&#39;s Modern Life Censored Scene
18:19 <Paralyzed> i know im making the point its slow
18:19 <Paralyzed> anyone have an ipod ? :P
18:19 <Paralyzed> or itouch
18:19 <PinkTomato> it broke after a year
18:19 <epsy> Paralyzed, you should have downloaded the small one
18:19 <Paralyzed> lol i did
18:19 <Paralyzed> i downloaded the first option
18:19 <TaZ> No, France is l337 epsy
18:19 <Paralyzed> i dont think its been an hour
18:19 <epsy> using the complete one is useless, you will have to download half of it again at the next upgrade
18:20 <epsy> (not the major update, just individual package upgrades)
18:20 <TaZ> Paralyzed: What kind of connection do you have?
18:20 <Paralyzed> Ubuntu 8.10 Desktop (the latest version): Includes the latest enhancements and is maintained until 2010
18:20 <Paralyzed> i choose that one
18:20 <Paralyzed> cable modem taz
18:20 <epsy> Paralyzed, yeah, but packages are updated regularly anyway
18:20 <Paralyzed> so i shouldve choose the second one?
18:21 <epsy> so you will end up with a lot of upgrades once it's installed
18:21 <Paralyzed> SOAB
18:21 <TaZ> :D
18:21 <Paralyzed> oh well
18:21 <luke-jr> epsy:
18:21 <Paralyzed> its been too long to cancle now
18:21 <Paralyzed> cancel*
18:21 <epsy> yeah
18:21 <luke-jr> epsy: are we gonna make a proof-of-concept escape-the-grid?
18:22 <luke-jr> I'm on a machien with 3D now
18:22 <Paralyzed> epsy
18:22 <Paralyzed> should i cancel and choose second one?
18:22 <TaZ> Paralyzed: You hear about all those peple who got banned from ww servers?
18:22 <epsy> luke-jr, escaping is a big world
18:22 <Paralyzed> yes i did
18:22 <TaZ> I think some of them didn't deserve it..
18:23 <epsy> luke-jr, getting further into a map is what I would call it
18:23 <epsy> big word*
18:23 <Paralyzed> EPSY:
18:23 <Paralyzed> what should i do ? XD
18:23 <epsy> [18:21] <Paralyzed>: its been too long to cancle now
18:23 <epsy> [18:21] <Paralyzed>: cancel*
18:23 <epsy> [18:21] <epsy>: yeah
18:23 <Paralyzed> okeh ;]
18:24 <Paralyzed> thought you where responding to luke
18:25 <Lis> I got banned once from ww cause I called Destiny an attentionwhore for threatening to close down ww every month
18:25 <Paralyzed> LOL
18:26 <Paralyzed> thats not anywhere close to what ratchet said
18:26 <Lis> whatd he say?
18:26 <Lis> (ratchet is an idiot, remember that screenshot with pussy lips? LOL)
18:26 <Paralyzed> i cant remember clearly but he said something about
18:26 <Paralyzed> LOL!!!!!!!
18:26 <Paralyzed> lol i was talking to him on msn
18:26 <Paralyzed> when he was doing his buisness
18:27 <Paralyzed> i said to him: hey you know you didnt delete your naughty search buisness"
18:27 <Paralyzed> Ratchet: WTF LOL
18:27 <Lis> omg..
18:27  * Lis sighs
18:27 <Paralyzed> anyways what he said was
18:27 <epsy> zzzzz
18:27 <SageLord> Lis = lizmatic?
18:28 <Lis> duh
18:28 <BabyBug> lies!!
18:28 <epsy> no it's lizamatic
18:28  * Lis ahahaha.
18:28 <Paralyzed> destiny is cheating on manta with spook thats why he wont take him off admin
18:28 <Lis> lisamatic actually, if you wanna be precise
18:28 <Lis> :D
18:28 <Lis> ...rofl!
18:28 <Paralyzed> he said something else but im not at liberty to discuss
18:28 <epsy> haha
18:28 <Lis> and she banned him?
18:28 <Paralyzed> yes rofl
18:28 <Lis> she's such a tightass..
18:28 <epsy> lol?
18:28 <Paralyzed> lol
18:28 <epsy> that's ridiculous
18:28 <Paralyzed> ratchet brought something to my attention about her bro
18:28 <BabyBug> Lis, there's a letter wrong in that name ;)
18:29 <Paralyzed> but i dont want to say anything
18:29 <Lis> what BabyBug?
18:29 <Paralyzed> w/e its his oponion
18:29 <Lis> and spill the beans para!
18:29 <Paralyzed> we saw destiny's brothers racing page
18:29 <luke-jr> epsy: …
18:29 <Paralyzed> and the fans button didnt work
18:29 <Paralyzed> and we were like
18:29 <Paralyzed> does he suck so much
18:29 <Paralyzed> that the funs button doesnt work
18:29 <Paralyzed> fans*
18:29 <Paralyzed> :]
18:29 <epsy> the funs button?
18:29 -!- dlh [n=dlh@] has quit []
18:29 <epsy> the fans button?
18:29 <epsy> luke-jr, ?
18:30 <Paralyzed> yes look
18:30 <luke-jr> epsy: …
18:30 <Paralyzed> http://kevinscummingracing.com
18:30 <Lis> kevins cumming?
18:30 <Paralyzed> notice the fan button doesnt work
18:30 <Lis> LOL.
18:30 <Paralyzed> yes
18:30 <epsy> Firefox can't find the server at www.kevinscummingracing.com.
18:30 <Paralyzed> we lol'd bout that too
18:30 <SageLord> haha
18:30 <Paralyzed> ok wait
18:30 <Lis> ..omg
18:30 <Lis> thats horrible
18:30 <Paralyzed> no "S"
18:30 <Paralyzed> LOL
18:30 <Paralyzed> kevincummingsracing.com
18:30 <epsy> Firefox can't find the server at www.kevincummingracing.com.
18:30 <Lis> thats one ugly site..
18:30 <Paralyzed> theres suppost to be an s
18:31 <epsy> ...
18:31 <Paralyzed> after ings
18:31 <Paralyzed> CUMmingsa
18:31 <Paralyzed> CUMmings*
18:31 <Paralyzed> ewps caps lock
18:31 <Lis> who are all banned from ww now then?
18:31 <epsy> lol, only "Photos" is linked
18:31 <Paralyzed> i know
18:31 <Paralyzed> the fans button doesnt even work
18:32 <Paralyzed> not even dest is a fan.
18:32 <Lis> and is destiny that old woman on the lower pic?:D
18:32 <Paralyzed> no
18:32 <Paralyzed> ratchet has a pic of dest
18:32 <Paralyzed> that creeped me out
18:32 <Lis> you saw it?
18:32 <Paralyzed> yes LOL
18:32 <Paralyzed> its not the picture that creeped me out
18:32 <Paralyzed> its the fact he had it
18:33 <epsy> lol
18:33 <Paralyzed> http://nsclan.darkbb.com
18:33 <Paralyzed> all register :)
18:34  * Lis agrees %32
18:34  * Paralyzed asks "with what"
18:34 -!- Lis is now known as Lizmatic
18:36 <Paralyzed> rofl
18:36 <Paralyzed> dest pulled a zinger pfft
18:36 <TaZ> Are you serious?
18:36 <TaZ> What she look like?
18:37 <Paralyzed> she is a ginger
18:37 <TaZ> lol
18:37 <Lizmatic> and old probably
18:37  * Paralyzed agrees
18:37 <Lizmatic> she married manta on the grid, they both rode to the endzone together
18:37 <TaZ> Where is it?
18:37 <Lizmatic> and said: "I do."
18:37 <Paralyzed> no no
18:37 <Paralyzed> they got married in halo
18:37 <Lizmatic> ..oh
18:38 <Paralyzed> i have a video of it
18:38 <Paralyzed> hold on
18:38 <Paralyzed> LOL
18:38 <TaZ> They did not get married in halo silly ppl
18:38 <PinkTomato> this sounds like a several breaches of the data protection act
18:39 <Paralyzed> i know but this is what couldve happened
18:39 <Paralyzed> lol
18:39 <Paralyzed> trust me
18:39 <Paralyzed> its hillarious
18:40 <PinkTomato> It sounds OTT now
18:40 <Lizmatic> no they got married in TRON
18:40 <TaZ> Are you guys kidding?
18:40 <Lizmatic> No.
18:41 <TaZ> Please tell me you are.
18:41 <Lizmatic> we're serious
18:41 <TaZ> Would you get married in Tron Lizmatic?
18:42 <TaZ> Lizmatic: Will you marry me
18:42 <Lizmatic> No :<
18:42 <Lizmatic> BabyBug and me are married already
18:42 <BabyBug> =)
18:43 <Paralyzed> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl7qtlx9nwE&feature=PlayList&p=2A495FEAC8080F3F&index=13
18:43 <Paralyzed> laugh alot ^
18:43 <Lizmatic> and if you wanna be my tron stalker, got one of those already too
18:43 <Lizmatic> :)
18:43 <Paralyzed> this is what wouldve happened
18:43 <BabyBug> lol
18:43 <Paralyzed> if manta and dest got married in halo
18:43 <Paralyzed> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl7qtlx9nwE&feature=PlayList&p=2A495FEAC8080F3F&index=13
18:43 <Lizmatic> there are a lot of marriages in WoW as well..
18:43 <Lizmatic> its disturbing
18:44 <Lizmatic> there was a funeral in WoW too for a player that died IRL..
18:44 <TaZ> You got a tron stalker Lizmatic?
18:44 <TaZ> lol
18:44 <TaZ> Who is it? epsy?
18:44 <Paralyzed> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl7qtlx9nwE&feature=PlayList&p=2A495FEAC8080F3F&index=13 <-watch!
18:44 <Lizmatic> No, Flex
18:44 <Lizmatic> and watch this as well -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHJVolaC8pw you'll lol lots.
18:44 <TaZ> lol
18:45 <PinkTomato> @title http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHJVolaC8pw
18:45 <BabyBug> Lizmatic, scared flex off though :o
18:45 <teabot> PinkTomato: Error: '\xef\xbb\xbfhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHJVolaC8pw' is not a valid http url.
18:45 <epsy> seriousely, can't google fucking use MOD_REWRITE?
18:45 <epsy> or make heir own, WHA CARES
18:45 <TaZ> Lizmatic: What did you do to flex?
18:45 <epsy> she sent him to army
18:46 <epsy> & he died and made many children
18:46 <BabyBug> not in that order right? O.o
18:46 <Lizmatic> I broke his little heart
18:46 <Lizmatic> and now he's gonna come over here (no joke)
18:46 <epsy> BabyBug, in that order
18:46 <BabyBug> =\
18:47 <TaZ> Lizmatic: He's coming over to where you live?
18:47 <Lizmatic> yes.
18:47 <Lizmatic> he's gone crazy.
18:48 <TaZ> lool, is he the dad?
18:48 <Lizmatic> lol.
18:48 <BabyBug> lol that's it liz just reveal to everyone that he's a freak xD
18:48 <Lizmatic> Damn right!
18:49 <TaZ> haha
18:50 <TaZ> No more videos for you Paralyzed
18:53 <Paralyzed> lol what taz
18:53 <Paralyzed> u has no sense of humah
18:53 <Paralyzed> :)
18:53 <TaZ> I am humor
18:53 <TaZ> :P
18:53 <BabyBug> humour* god damnit people
18:54 <Paralyzed> i know how to spell
18:54 <Paralyzed> i did it on purpose
18:54 <TaZ> 0/ Grammer Nazi
18:54 <Paralyzed> and its humor
18:54 <TaZ> >.>
18:54 <BabyBug> it's humour
18:54 <Lizmatic> its humor and humour, but humour is English
18:54 <PinkTomato> depends if you speak english or not
18:54 <Paralyzed> not humour thats english
18:54 <Lizmatic> humor = more of the American spelling
18:54 <Paralyzed> both count
18:54 <Paralyzed> like colour
18:54 <Paralyzed> or favourite
18:54 <Paralyzed> but i r not englash :]
18:54 <Lizmatic> I prefer humour though seeing as Americans are retarded
18:54 <Lizmatic> :D
18:54 <BabyBug> Americans are wrong.
18:55 <TaZ> And it's humor :P
18:55 <PinkTomato> color is more logical with the continent
18:55 <TaZ> Americans>Europeans
18:55 <TaZ> :o
18:55 <Lizmatic> haha..
18:55 <TaZ> jk, I love PinkTomato
18:55 <PinkTomato> What? you copied our language
18:55 <TaZ> But not you Lizmatic
18:55 <PinkTomato> that's why it's called english :P
18:55 <Lizmatic> everyone knows americans are more idiotic than europeans
18:55 <K-Yo> TaZ<rest of the world
18:55 <Lizmatic> do you even know where europe is?
18:56 <Paralyzed> yea
18:56 <Lizmatic> tip: its not a make believe country from Peter Pan
18:56 <Paralyzed> in africa
18:56 <TaZ> lolz
18:56 <Paralyzed> :D
18:56 <TaZ> You Euros think you own the world
18:56 <Lizmatic> ..
18:56 <Lizmatic> no thats Americans
18:56 <K-Yo> TaZ, it's because we do
18:56 <TaZ> Nah, we own the world.
18:56 <Paralyzed> europeans cuss more then we do
18:56 <TaZ> s:o
18:56 <K-Yo> :)
18:56 <Lizmatic> Europe = the world, America is our backyard
18:56 <K-Yo> TaZ, nowai
18:56 <PinkTomato> Paralyzed: that's totally not tru
18:56 <PinkTomato> e
18:56 <Paralyzed>  lol :|
18:57 <TaZ> I know Paralyzed. A lot of them are rude like Lizmatic and K-Yo
18:57 <Lizmatic> never seen Team America: World Police?
18:57 <TaZ> Even epsy :o
18:57 <Paralyzed> yea i have seen team amera
18:57 <Paralyzed> america*
18:57 <Paralyzed> AMERICCAAAA F*** YEA!
18:57 <TaZ> lolz, are you serious Liz?
18:57 <PinkTomato> we are serious
18:57 <Lizmatic> well, it was a mock movie.. but I wouldn't think you understand it
18:57 <TaZ> ...lol
18:57 <Paralyzed> i loved it
18:57 <Lizmatic> can't overestimate americans
18:57 <Paralyzed> so then failed
18:58 <Paralyzed> once ive download ubuntu
18:58 <TaZ> Lizmatic, I don't know why you think you are greater than America
18:58 <Paralyzed> what next
18:58 <K-Yo> TaZ, it's easy, look at G8, how many of them are europeans? how many of them are americans?
18:58 <K-Yo> ^^
18:58 <Lizmatic> *I* am not greater than America
18:58 <Lizmatic> but Europe is.
18:58 <TaZ> lolz, no.
18:58 <Paralyzed> BrownTomatos
18:59 <TaZ> America is sooo much better than Europe though
18:59 <Paralyzed> what to do after download ubuntu
18:59 <Lizmatic> funny, most european tron players have better grammar use than american players
18:59 <K-Yo> Paralyzed, seed it
18:59 <Paralyzed> I'm not gonna get into this battle of . my country is better then yours.
18:59 <TaZ> Well if you guys weren't such grammar Nazi's
18:59 <Lizmatic> yeah, we suck for being well educated
18:59 <Paralyzed> Hi, im the stfu nazi
18:59 <K-Yo> TaZ, hahaha
18:59 <Paralyzed> STFU
18:59 <TaZ> :D
19:00 <PinkTomato> we never said europe is better thanyours
19:00 <epsy> holy shot how come you fucking dare to say I goddamn swear?!
19:00 <K-Yo> <Lizmatic> *I* am not greater than America
19:00 <K-Yo> <Lizmatic> but Europe is.
19:00 <PinkTomato> ah
19:00 <Paralyzed> =====talking undermeath this line indicates the other country is better=====
19:00 <TaZ> lul, they have tempers too, Paralyzed
19:00 <epsy> Lizmatic, your mum is, tho
19:00 <PinkTomato> well I didn't say that :P
19:00 <Paralyzed> yay
19:00 <K-Yo> Paralyzed, lool
19:00 <Paralyzed> there both better
19:00 <Paralyzed> problem solved
19:00 <Lizmatic> xD
19:00 <Lizmatic> theyre*
19:00 <K-Yo> Paralyzed, btw, europe is not a country
19:00 <Paralyzed> OMG
19:00 <Lizmatic> aren't you American?
19:00 <Paralyzed> STFU LOL
19:00 <epsy> they're, even
19:00 <Lizmatic> why can't you use proper grammar? :|
19:00 <Paralyzed> no
19:00 <TaZ> LOL!
19:00 <Paralyzed> im japaneese
19:00 <Paralyzed> :D
19:00 <Lizmatic> I'm better than you at your own language + my own! :|
19:01 <Lizmatic> ZOMGZOMG
19:01 <Lizmatic> E>A
19:01 <TaZ> Cause this a IRC chat, not a damn English test.
19:01 <TaZ> :>
19:01 <PinkTomato> ほんとに??
19:01 <Paralyzed> I'm japaneese french speaking female nazi
19:01 <K-Yo> english tests suck
19:01 <Lizmatic> thats no excuse for getting very simple sentences absolutely wrong
19:01 <Lizmatic> there isn't a typo..
19:01 <TaZ> lolol
19:01 <Paralyzed> ===talk under this line if you will help me===
19:01 <Paralyzed> YES
19:01 <Lizmatic> ==talk above this line if you're a fag==
19:01 <epsy> their wrong!
19:01 <TaZ> Then capitalize your sentences then Lizmatic .
19:01 <Paralyzed> IMAFAG
19:02 <Paralyzed> im a bundle of sticks
19:02 <epsy> TaZ, o your right
19:02 <Lizmatic> I have no problem with the lack of interpunction, TaZ
19:02 <epsy> [to speak]
19:02 <K-Yo> === talk above this line if you want to talk above this line ===
19:02 <Paralyzed> ====talk under this line if your country sux====
19:02 <Lizmatic> DIAF
19:02 <epsy> to do so, JUST TALK ABOVE THE LINE!
19:02 <Lizmatic> !
19:02 <Paralyzed> WOOOTYEA!!!
19:02 <TaZ> Don't be such an illiterate then, Lizmatic .
19:02 <Paralyzed> MY COUNTRY SUX
19:02 <BabyBug> === Is everyone missing the points that the ends of this contain two lines? ===
19:02 <Lizmatic> there is no space between Lizmatic and .
19:02 <Lizmatic> even when you try
19:03 <Lizmatic> you PHAIL
19:03 <Paralyzed> epsy!
19:03 <Paralyzed> epsy:
19:03 <K-Yo> well
19:03 <K-Yo> enough bs for the day
19:03 <epsy> stop highlighting me if it's not to talk to me
19:03 <K-Yo> later
19:03 <TaZ> Since you have perfect grammer.
19:03 <Paralyzed> i want to
19:03 <Paralyzed> what to do after
19:03 <epsy> I do not.
19:03 <TaZ> grammar*
19:03 <Paralyzed> download is finished
19:03 <Paralyzed> aww ?
19:03 -!- Corn [n=Corn@pool-71-252-92-110.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron
19:03 <PinkTomato> why is BabyBug's name always red in IRC...
19:03 <epsy> Paralyzed, BURRRNRN
19:03 <Lizmatic> "grammer" LMFAO
19:03 <Paralyzed> Burn*
19:03 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, which client?
19:03 <BabyBug> :P
19:03 <PinkTomato> Pidgin
19:04 <Lizmatic> stop trying to correct me, you're failing horribly and it's painful to watch tbqh
19:04 <TaZ> Seeing as I corrected did dumbatic.
19:04 <epsy> Paralyzed, I mean, burn the ISO image
19:04 <BabyBug> no idea
19:04 <TaZ> :)
19:04 <epsy> onto a CD
19:04 <Corn> i've always been too lazy to download an irc client but i just did
19:04 <Corn> :P
19:04 <TaZ> you fail lizmatic
19:04 <Paralyzed> oh
19:04 <Paralyzed> with what program
19:04 <Lizmatic> no u
19:04 <K-Yo> hi Corn
19:04 <epsy> Paralyzed, as an ISO IMAGE, not as a file
19:04 <TaZ> NO U
19:04 <Corn> xchat
19:04 <K-Yo> bye Corn
19:04 <epsy> Paralyzed, look at the ubuntu website
19:04 <Paralyzed> O.O
19:04 <epsy> they tell it somewhere
19:04 <Paralyzed> come on :]
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19:04 <Paralyzed> i pay u tea . i know englanders love that stuff
19:05 <Paralyzed> (not being stereotypical)
19:05 <BabyBug> Is there anyone from England here?
19:05 <Lizmatic> ME
19:05 <epsy> englanders XD
19:05 <PinkTomato> hello!
19:05 <Lizmatic> !!11!!1
19:05 <Paralyzed> yes
19:05 <Paralyzed> englanders
19:05 <epsy> highlanders too?
19:05 <Paralyzed> thats what i call them
19:05 <epsy> highlanders ftw?
19:05 <Paralyzed> no i just need help
19:05 <PinkTomato> don't call welsh people englanders
19:05 <BabyBug> =)
19:05 <epsy> PinkTomato, hahahaha
19:05 <Lizmatic> I agree PinkTomato, they aren't people
19:05 <BabyBug> England is a giant scum bucket.
19:05 <Lizmatic> :P
19:06 <BabyBug> Lizmatic!!
19:06 <Lizmatic> LOL
19:06 <Lizmatic> land wars ftw
19:06 <Corn> lol do you guys realize whenever CT makes a server that has colorful text the noobs swarm it
19:06 <Corn> no matter what kind of server it is
19:06 <epsy> orly?
19:07 <Corn> look at the sumo respawn server
19:07 <Lizmatic> that server is stupid
19:07 <BabyBug> someone needs to make a mod for the server which detects non grinders for on fortress \o/
19:07 <epsy> didn't you know servers were colored by popularity?
19:07 <Corn> :P
19:07 <epsy> BabyBug, what about defenders?
19:08 <BabyBug> epsy, The mod needs to account for that x)
19:08 <BabyBug> it needs to check if they are the defender :D
19:08 <PinkTomato> I thought you were supposed to grind when you defend
19:08 <Corn> or you could use something already in the game -- player police
19:08 <luke-jr> epsy: epsyep
19:08 <epsy> well, you may be not grinding
19:08  * Lizmatic is an player police
19:08 <epsy> but going behind tails
19:08 <luke-jr> epsy:
19:08 <BabyBug> Corn, Vote kicks arn't successful all the time...
19:08 <BabyBug> Especially in ctwf
19:08 <Corn> i know
19:08 <epsy> armagetron mouse gestures Oo
19:08 <BabyBug> can't kick anyone there
19:08 <epsy> luke-jr:
19:08 <luke-jr> epsy: PROOF OF CONCEPT
19:08 <Corn> but a script would randomly kick people in my opinion
19:09 <epsy> err, I mean cycle gestures
19:09 <epsy> Corn, A move to kick somone :D
19:09 <Corn> i mean honestly it would be way to hard to implement
19:09 <PinkTomato> It would be easy
19:09 <Corn> it would be easy but it wouldnt be accurate at all
19:09 <PinkTomato> it  would be accurate
19:09 <hoop> epsy: you know what exactly causes the login prob with pharming suspected?
19:09 <epsy> like, set it on to someone you want to kick but are usesure yet, and when you're sure do the move!
19:09 <PinkTomato> say it uses KILL
19:10 <epsy> hoop, hm?
19:10 <PinkTomato> there could be "banned areas" at the start
19:10 <epsy> hoop, which one? two were fixed
19:10 <Lizmatic> .tea
19:10 <Corn> Im saying it wouldn't be accurate in that it would kick people that were not non grinders
19:10 <tronner> Lizmatic: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
19:10 <epsy> PinkTomato, call them death zones?
19:11 <PinkTomato> epsy: in a way
19:11 <Corn> the problem with that is people that split early
19:11 <PinkTomato> being square might help
19:11 <PinkTomato> oh right..
19:11 <PinkTomato> hmm..
19:11 <hoop> epsy: idk, I cant login, all settings are ok
19:11 <Corn> if you line banned areas so that non grinders are killed that only allows people to split at a set time
19:11 <epsy> PinkTomato, in a walkthrough it may be wise to do so, but in regular gameplay that is taking us for idiots
19:11 <epsy> hoop, complete error message?
19:12 <hoop> [1] Login failed, reason: Server adress mismatch, (sent by client) != *.*.*.*:* (our address). Pharming suspected. If  you are connecting from the LAN and get this error, either set "TRUST_LAN" on the server (only if your LAN can be fully trusted, of course) or use "SERVER_IP" to make the local IP known to the server.
19:12 <PinkTomato> my monitor has turned off.. that's tru epsy, nees more thought
19:12 <Corn> not to mention death zones dont belong anywhere near fortress
19:12 <epsy> server does not know it's IP
19:12 <epsy> did you set SERVER_IP and SERVER_PORT ?
19:12 <hoop> just the port
19:12 <epsy> hoop, is it polling masters?
19:13 <hoop> PinkTomato: is server's ip static?
19:13 <hoop> epsy: yes
19:13 <epsy> revision?
19:13 <Corn> so cafe is back does this mean wrtl is back?
19:13 <PinkTomato> hoop: it's static
19:13 <hoop> ct + sty + race whatever
19:13 <hoop> epsy: ill try setting server_ip
19:14 <PinkTomato> why does it only need to be on half the time?
19:14 <epsy> ah..well, merge from mainline
19:15 <hoop> .cfg server_port
19:15 <tronner> hoop: SERVER_PORT: Port this server listens on (default: 4534)
19:16 <hoop> ooooo wait XD talk_to_master was 0
19:16 <PinkTomato> :)
19:17 <luke-jr> ok
19:17 <luke-jr> who broke 0.2.8 head?
19:17 <luke-jr> epsy: WAS IT U
19:18 <epsy> no
19:18 <epsy> zman did
19:18 <Corn> why is the dev trunk so much smaller then 2.8 or 3.0
19:18 <epsy> revert r950 and it works
19:18 <Corn> 0.3 sorry
19:18 <epsy> it's also .2.8
19:18 <epsy> Corn, I don't get it
19:18 <Corn> you dont get my question or you dont know?
19:19 <luke-jr> epsy: 0.2.8 doesn't *exist* in r950
19:19 <epsy> luke-jr, bleh, I mean bzr revision r950, let me check
19:19 <Paralyzed> infra recorder isnt detecting my disk.
19:19 <luke-jr> bzr is fail
19:20 <PinkTomato> Paralyzed: whats an infra recorder?
19:20 <epsy>  950. By  Manuel Moos  on 2008-12-11
19:20 <epsy>     Only add -Wno-strict-overflow if the compiler supports it.
19:20 <luke-jr> heck, r950 is pre-
19:20 <Paralyzed> its a burner
19:21 <Paralyzed> to burn iso to disk
19:21 <Paralyzed> its  a brand new 700 mb 80 min disk
19:21 <epsy> yeah that's what you need
19:21 <Paralyzed> is it supposed to go into the dvd slot
19:21 <Paralyzed> or the cdr
19:21 <Paralyzed> ive tried both
19:21 <epsy> whatever has a bruned
19:21 <epsy> burned
19:21 <epsy> rhigohdnifgboldfg
19:21 <epsy> burner
19:21 <Paralyzed> ...what
19:22 <Paralyzed> the ok button when i go to actions
19:22 <Paralyzed> burn image
19:22 <Paralyzed> isnt lighting up
19:22 <epsy> that's what you want
19:22 <epsy> Oo
19:22 <Paralyzed> the disk is in cdr slot
19:22 <BabyBug> Wait you don't know how to burn a disc and you're going to run nix? =\
19:22 <Paralyzed> i know how to burn music cd's XD
19:22 <Paralyzed> but not data
19:22 <Paralyzed> im using infra recorder
19:22 <epsy> maybe it can't?
19:23 <epsy> or doesn't want you to
19:23 <Paralyzed> ubuntu just offered the program.
19:23 <epsy> jesus, fuck google
19:23 <epsy> http://www.petri.co.il/how_to_write_iso_files_to_cd.htm
19:26 <TaZ> Lizmatic
19:27 <Lizmatic> what
19:29 <TaZ> Why do you hate America?
19:29 <Lizmatic> Who said that I hate America?
19:29 <luke-jr> woosh :þ
19:29  * BabyBug cuddles luke-jr 
19:30  * luke-jr stabs BabyBug in the face.
19:30  * BabyBug kicks luke-jr off a cliff
19:30 <BabyBug> in wales...
19:30 <TaZ> lol
19:30 <Corn> can you feel the love tonight
19:30 <luke-jr> epsy: r8655
19:31 <epsy> guess so
19:31 <luke-jr> but that's impossible
19:31 <epsy> ?
19:31 <luke-jr> none of those changed files are relevant to the problenm
19:31 <Lizmatic> well, TaZ?
19:31 <epsy> ah, what is the acutal problem?
19:31 <luke-jr> configure: error: conditional "AMDEP" was never defined.
19:31 <luke-jr> Usually this means the macro was only invoked conditionally.
19:32 <TaZ> 12:50<Lizmatic: "I hate America">
19:33 <Lizmatic> o_O.. *goes to logs*
19:33 <TaZ> xD
19:33 <Lizmatic> nvm too lazy, I was prob joking.. Europe is better than America but I do not hate Americans.
19:34 <luke-jr> [11:50:32] <Lizmatic> I hate America
19:34 <TaZ> See?
19:34 <Lizmatic> ^^^^^^^^^
19:34 <TaZ> You can't even remember.
19:34 <Corn> maybe shes roofied
19:34 <Lizmatic> so what :|
19:34 <luke-jr> :D
19:34 <TaZ> lolz
19:34 <BabyBug> She never said that.............
19:35 <TaZ> It's ok Lizmatic, Not everybody can be smart as me.
19:35 <luke-jr> LOL
19:35 <luke-jr> BabyBug: play along
19:35 <luke-jr> forge your own log
19:35 <BabyBug> luke-jr, NO!
19:35  * TaZ silences BabyBug
19:35 <Lizmatic> Yeah, I shouldve known.. dumb American
19:35 <Lizmatic> But if thats how you get your way xD
19:35 <TaZ> lolz
19:35 <TaZ> :o
19:35 <TaZ> Lizmatic, I can't believe you fell for it.
19:36 <luke-jr> TaZ: I'm sure I helped!
19:36 <TaZ> Says a lot about your IQ.
19:36 <Lizmatic> HAHAHA
19:36 <TaZ> Oh yea, thx luke-jr!
19:36 <Lizmatic> Don't talk about IQ's please, makes you look like an idiot
19:36 <Lizmatic> plus I was already over the subject, now you're making trouble again?
19:36 <Lizmatic> then "congrulating" me in private? hypocrite cunt
19:36 <TaZ> Lolz, I just think it's funny
19:36 <luke-jr> Lizmatic: shh, let the idiots be ignorant of their stupidity plz
19:37 <BabyBug> luke-jr, like you're being right now? xD
19:37 <TaZ> lolz congratulate*
19:37 <Lizmatic> luke-jr: you helped him in his game so you're one of the idiots too eh?
19:37 <luke-jr> congradulate*
19:37 <Lizmatic> no TaZ, you probably spelled it wrong cunt.
19:37 <Lizmatic> :D
19:37 <luke-jr> Lizmatic: no, I helped HIM be an idiot
19:37 <TaZ> Watch your mouth preggo's
19:37 <luke-jr> :O
19:37 <Lizmatic> -_-
19:37 <Lizmatic> I'm done with this
19:37 <TaZ> ok
19:37 <Lizmatic> .tea
19:37 <tronner> Lizmatic: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
19:37 <luke-jr> TaZ: she's gettign a divorce from u!
19:38 <epsy> Lizmatic, yeah, that works by reverting r950
19:38 <TaZ> xD
19:38 <Corn> liz i'llplay
19:38 <epsy> luke-jr, *
19:38 <Lizmatic> cool
19:38 <luke-jr> epsy: o
19:38 <Lizmatic> anyone else for cafe?
19:38 <luke-jr> Lizmatic: no
19:38 <luke-jr> cafe sux
19:38 <luke-jr> :D
19:38 <epsy> luke-jr, I'll close some tabs and check if it's the right revision
19:38 <BabyBug> luke-jr, do you play tron? =\
19:38 <luke-jr> BabyBug: maybe
19:38 <TaZ> No haha
19:38 <luke-jr> BabyBug: help me with my proof-of-concept?
19:38 <luke-jr> BabyBug: I'm making a server that allows you to escape from teh grid
19:38 <luke-jr> :D
19:39 <TaZ> I used to think that your_mom was luke-jr.
19:39 <BabyBug> luke-jr, and how would i help you do that? :P
19:39 <luke-jr> BabyBug: uh, not sure
19:39 <luke-jr> I could make a bzr branch probably
19:39 <luke-jr> no idea how tho
19:39 <BabyBug> ....
19:39 <BabyBug> I meant i'm not a coder..........
19:39 <luke-jr> BabyBug: then help test
19:39 <BabyBug> Oh i'll help test
19:40 <epsy> luke-jr, perhaps..bzr branch? :D
19:40 <luke-jr> epsy: …
19:40 <BabyBug> bzr \o/
19:40 <luke-jr> epsy: u wanna help?
19:40 <epsy> r8655 here
19:40 <epsy> kind of busy, what kind of help do you need?
19:42 <Lizmatic> corn, come cafe
19:42 <Lizmatic> ^^
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19:46 <luke-jr> 'make distclean' is broken :x
19:48 <epsy> agreed :x
19:48 <hoop> hey i need 3-4 ppl to test a fort server please come!
19:48 <hoop> called 'eeeeeeee'
19:48 <epsy> @sd eeeeee
19:48 <SageLord> ok omw
19:49 <teabot> epsy: eeeeeeeeee: Players (1/8): hoop (hoop@forums)
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19:52 <luke-jr> ocrap
19:52 <luke-jr> is ARENA_AXES used during gameplay? :/
19:52 <freako6> lol
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19:58 <Paralyzed> lol
19:58 <Paralyzed> i feel like an idiot
19:59 <luke-jr> good
19:59 <Paralyzed> luke-jr: stfu
19:59 <luke-jr> idiots should feel like idiots
19:59 <luke-jr> :D
19:59 <Paralyzed> i put the disk in the drive
19:59 <Paralyzed> without taking protective  platisc off
19:59  * freako6 feels like an idiot
19:59 <freako6> lol
19:59  * Lizmatic haha
19:59 <freako6> yes thats pretty dumb xD
19:59 <Paralyzed> i was like
20:00 <Paralyzed> OH Snaps
20:00  * Paralyzed im playing with the plastic as it burns at 75 percent :)
20:00 <Paralyzed> it makes a a wierd sound
20:00 <Paralyzed> like water splashing
20:01 <Paralyzed> btw
20:01 <Paralyzed> luke-jr:
20:01 <Paralyzed> whats your excuse ? :]
20:01 <luke-jr> …
20:01 <luke-jr> I don't have anythign to make an excuse for
20:01 <Paralyzed> :D
20:01 <Paralyzed> ahh so you feel like an idiot too
20:01 <luke-jr> no
20:02 <Paralyzed> so, what's your excuse for that then
20:02 <luke-jr> I'm not an idiot. why would I feel like one?
20:02 <Paralyzed> (10:59:25 AM) luke-jr: idiots should feel like idiots
20:02 <Paralyzed> the first stage: denial
20:02 <Paralyzed> w00t yeah burn finished
20:02 <Paralyzed> epsy: should i restart computer now/'
20:03 <luke-jr> Paralyzed: you clearly are a fool
20:03 <Paralyzed> luke-jr: you clearly need a girllfriend
20:03 <luke-jr> Paralyzed: no thanks
20:03 <Paralyzed> luke-jr: i would assume that
20:04 <Paralyzed> be right back
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20:04 <BabyBug> .tea
20:04 <tronner> BabyBug: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
20:04 <BabyBug> ><
20:04 <Corn> were in eeeeeeee
20:04 <luke-jr> liar
20:05 <freako6> its full
20:05 <freako6> 8/8
20:05 <epsy> PC
20:08 <luke-jr> liar
20:08 <freako6> LOL!
20:08 <freako6> :p
20:08 <luke-jr> I'm in eeeeeeee
20:08 <luke-jr> and it's nto full
20:09 <freako6> LOL!
20:09 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: liar :P
20:10 <freako6> luke is a liar!
20:10 <freako6> and a idiot :/        :p
20:10 <luke-jr> am not
20:10 <luke-jr> I'm playing right now
20:11 <luke-jr> :/
20:11 <luke-jr> come play
20:11 <freako6> LOL!
20:12 <luke-jr> ……..
20:12 <Lizmatic> luke-jr: DIAF
20:12 <freako6> im off
20:12 <Lizmatic> =D
20:12 <freako6> luke-jr U liar!!!
20:12 <luke-jr> u
20:12 <luke-jr> freako6: come play eeeeeee
20:12 <freako6> i just left....
20:12 <luke-jr> did nto
20:13 <luke-jr> you were never here
20:13  * freako6 guesses luke-jr 
20:13  * freako6 thinks he setup a server, with one less -e ... and played there
20:13 <luke-jr> wrong
20:13 <freako6> damned, it was plausible though :/
20:14 <freako6> g2g, cya
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20:15 <luke-jr> epsy:
20:15 <luke-jr> para
20:15 <luke-jr> Lizmatic:
20:16 <luke-jr> RETARDS
20:17 <Lizmatic> lool
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20:18 <Lizmatic> .tea
20:18 <tronner> Lizmatic: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
20:19 <Lizmatic> .os
20:19 <BabyBug> .servers
20:19 <tronner> BabyBug: This data is 54 seconds old; Wild West  =Sumo= (14/14), |FA| Devils Rings! (11/16), {Delicious Desserts} Racing II (10/14), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), eeeeeeeeee (9/10), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (8/16), The YELLOW Submarine (8/16), WILDCAT (6/8), {Delicious Desserts} High Rubber (6/10), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (6/12), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (5/10), Crazy Tronners Wild (2 more messages)
20:22 <Lizmatic> saturdays are so boring when you can't go out to drink
20:23 <BabyBug> amen!
20:24 <Ady-Lucifer> Lizmatic, why cant you go out and drink
20:26 <Lizmatic> well, I don't want a retarded baby for one..
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20:29 <hoax> http://www.flickr.com/photos/dragonden/2997873808/
20:30 <Ady-Lucifer> Lizmatic, LOL
20:33 <BabyBug> Whoever put up that sign should be shot
20:34 <Ady-Lucifer> hahahahahahah
20:34 <Ady-Lucifer> i've just seen it
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20:36 <Lizmatic> LOL!
20:36 <Lizmatic> so all gay people go to hell? they must have some fun in there
20:37 <Ady-Lucifer> what if a boy kisses a girl and he likes it
20:37 <epsy> haha
20:37 <Lizmatic> Ady-Lucifer: if theyre not married -> hell
20:37 <Ady-Lucifer> LOL
20:37 <BabyBug> religion is so fucked up
20:37 <epsy> Lizmatic, in hell there's also those that discriminate gays
20:37 <Ady-Lucifer> wow a place full of single people
20:38 <Lizmatic> no no, discriminating gays is ok.. in the bible it even says you can stone them to death if I'm correct
20:38 <Lizmatic> yay!
20:38 <luke-jr> Ady-Lucifer: play one eeeeeeeeeeeeee
20:38 <epsy> oh right
20:38  * Lizmatic throws rocks at BabyBug
20:38 <Lizmatic> xD
20:38 <BabyBug> !!
20:38  * BabyBug squeeeeeeeezes Lizmatic so tight she can't move to throw anymore =D
20:38 <luke-jr> the eeeeeeee I host
20:39 <luke-jr> the other one is lame
20:39 <Ady-Lucifer> ah now i get it
20:39 <Lizmatic> shit, now I'm going to hell too :<
20:39 <Ady-Lucifer> sorry im quite busy atm , later fosho
20:39 <BabyBug> With me! <3
20:39 <Lizmatic> :D!
20:39 <luke-jr> Ady-Lucifer: PLAY EEEEEEEEEEEee
20:39 <Corn> .tea
20:39 <epsy> just cus he was kicked for teamkilling everybody :>
20:39 <tronner> Corn: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
20:39 <Ady-Lucifer> Ima wait for you in tha hot place girls
20:40 <luke-jr> epsy: jerks
20:41  * Ady-Lucifer is back (gone 04:14:36)
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20:42 <SageLord> so what do i need to read up on, to learn how to program a map in tron?
20:42 <epsy> @aa
20:42 <epsy> oops
20:42 <PinkTomato> well possibly be lazy and use armabell
20:42 <epsy> @aawikis map
20:42 <teabot> epsy: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Map_Making - Map Making - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
20:42 <SageLord> what is armabell?
20:43 <Ady-Lucifer> LOL
20:43 <epsy> it's a shitty map editor that takes years to make work
20:43 <PinkTomato> a map maker program for arma
20:43 <SageLord> lol
20:43 <epsy> and that makes maps that look shitty and poorly pre-thought
20:43 <PinkTomato> I think you can make svg and convert to arma map
20:44 <epsy> yeah but the sizes are even crappier
20:44 <Lizmatic> http://www.uniqwear.com/products/thumbs/girlsdontpoop.gif
20:44 <Lizmatic> oops
20:44 <SageLord> erm, lol?
20:44 <SageLord> so its programming in xml?
20:44 <PinkTomato> well up to you
20:45 <luke-jr> …
20:45 <epsy> xml aren't programs, so I'd rather ay writing xml
20:45 <epsy> not that hard
20:45 <PinkTomato> thats the best way to do it
20:45 <SageLord> huh?
20:45 <epsy> yeah, I agree
20:45 <SageLord> oh haha
20:45 <SageLord> there are other ways to do it?
20:45 <epsy> s/ ay/ say/
20:45 <PinkTomato> like I said armabell or svg convert
20:46 <epsy> but that suxx
20:46 <PinkTomato> never used them
20:46 <SageLord> is there a place that i can look at source files
20:46 <Ady-Lucifer> plain text editor FTW!
20:46 <SageLord> like for fortress/ctf/etc
20:46 <Ady-Lucifer> with a pen and some paper
20:46 <epsy> @g armagetron resource browser
20:46 <PinkTomato> how complex you gooing?
20:46 <teabot> epsy: http://teamdbd.us/component/option,com_weblinks/catid,17/Itemid,23/ - .dBd|Site - Web Links
20:47 <epsy> http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/
20:48 <epsy> SageLord, http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/Z-Man/fortress/for_old_clients-0.1.0.aamap.xml
20:48 <epsy> pretty simple map
20:50 <epsy> SageLord, one necessary tool is this: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=17381
20:51 <epsy> you can have it on opera, or on firefox with greasemonkey( see third post )
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20:53 <Paralyzed> :(
20:53 <SageLord> hmm3
20:53 <SageLord> well this seems pretty simple
20:53 <Paralyzed> Im having cb boot troubles
20:53 <Paralyzed> cd*
20:53 <Paralyzed> for ubuntu
20:53 <PinkTomato> elaborate
20:53 <Paralyzed> just burned cd
20:53 <Paralyzed> its burned correctly
20:53 <Paralyzed> checked files
20:53 <epsy> SageLord, yeah, it's great, makes you independent of the different map preview apps
20:53 <Paralyzed> now im at the point trying to get it started
20:54 <Paralyzed> to instlal it
20:54 <epsy> SageLord, to see source you can just ctrl+u
20:54 <Paralyzed> install*
20:54 <epsy> Paralyzed, what logo shows up right when you boot the computer?
20:54 <Paralyzed> none
20:54 <PinkTomato> nothing?
20:54 <PinkTomato> windows logo?
20:54 <epsy> before that
20:54 <Paralyzed> nope
20:54 <Paralyzed> its burned 100 good
20:54 <Paralyzed> because the files are there
20:55 <Paralyzed> but ive restarted
20:55 <PinkTomato> right, answer epsy :)
20:55 <Paralyzed> twice
20:55 <epsy> what's your computer manufacter?
20:55 <Paralyzed> dell
20:55 <Pathetique> LOL
20:55 <Paralyzed> path why must you LOL at everything
20:55 <Pathetique> because
20:55 <epsy> Paralyzed, don't you see a 'DELL' splash at boot?
20:55 <Pathetique> I'm goofy
20:56 <Paralyzed> yea a dell screen of course ;]
20:56 <Paralyzed> path, have an old man fart in you mouth, close it for a year
20:56 <Paralyzed> then die
20:56 <luke-jr> come play Yandere in #anime or MCP attack in eeeeeeee
20:56 <epsy> yeah, well, I can't remember exactly which key it is
20:56 <luke-jr> NOW
20:56 <PinkTomato> Press F12 on that screen
20:56 <Paralyzed> ok
20:56 <Paralyzed> ill try it ;]
20:56 <PinkTomato> select CD-ROM
20:56 <epsy> but it is one of F2 or F12
20:56 <epsy> yeah
20:56 <Paralyzed> the dell loading screen?
20:56 <PinkTomato> yeap
20:56 <epsy> what PinkTomato says
20:56 <Paralyzed> ok
20:56 <Paralyzed> be right back
20:56 <Paralyzed> thanks
20:56 <Pathetique> Fuck you, Para. :\
20:56 <Paralyzed> LOL!
20:57 <PinkTomato> otherwise
20:57 <Pathetique> fyi
20:57 <Pathetique> <--- bad day at work
20:57 <PinkTomato> your aware of partition?
20:57 <Paralyzed> lol
20:57 <Pathetique> Don't push my buttons.
20:57 <Paralyzed> u pushed mine :(
20:57 <Pathetique> nope.
20:57 <Pathetique> w/e
20:57 <Paralyzed> yes.
20:57 <Pathetique> I'm going to lay down
20:57 <Pathetique> naptime
20:57 <Pathetique> cu
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20:57 <Paralyzed> have a good nap
20:57 <Paralyzed> LOL
20:57 <SageLord> hmm
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20:57 <epsy> Paralyzed, are you aware abou....
20:57 <epsy> peh
20:58 <PinkTomato> I don't think he'll be back for a few days...
20:58 <epsy> damn pathetique :\
20:58 <luke-jr> come play Yandere in #anime or MCP attack in eeeeeeee
20:58 <epsy> luke-jr, stfu
20:58 <luke-jr> epsy: NOW
20:59 <epsy> SageLord: works?
21:00 <SageLord> hmm?
21:00 <epsy> the user JS
21:00 <SageLord> i'm just trying to get the feel for these settings by looking at a few map files
21:00 <epsy> did you even try it? :P
21:00 <SageLord> haha not yet
21:00 <SageLord> so for all of these fortress maps... the rubber is set to 5?
21:00 <epsy> yeah
21:01 <epsy> generally
21:01 <SageLord> i notice in the files there's no setting for it
21:01 <epsy> settings doesnt have to be in the map
21:01 <SageLord> ah, all right
21:01 <SageLord> so they set it on the server?
21:01 <epsy> you CAN include settings in maps, but that's it
21:01 <epsy> but..err
21:01 <epsy> gotta test something
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21:12 <hoop> ct|kyle: is it possible to change map after ROUND_COMMENCING ?
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21:14 <hoop> nvm, no need to
21:15 <BabyBug> Ady-Lucifer is a retarded nob head
21:16 <BabyBug> =D
21:17 <Lizmatic> .ls Flex
21:17 <Lizmatic> WHY DOESNT THAT WORK
21:17 <tronner> Lizmatic: timed out
21:17 <BabyBug> I think it means he's been offline for too long
21:17 <BabyBug> #ls Flex
21:17 <Lizmatic> Oh snap..
21:18 <armabot> BabyBug: timed out
21:18 <BabyBug> He's hunting you doooooooown xD
21:18 <Lizmatic> :<<
21:21 <epsy> meh
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21:21 <BabyBug> epsy?
21:21 <epsy> doubts are gone now
21:21 <Paralyzed> PinkTomato: is something supposed to happen
21:22 <Paralyzed> I've made 2 attempts and it just starts up normal
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21:22 <epsy> bug 307753
21:22 <teabot> Launchpad bug 307753 in armagetronad "map settings are always run with access level Owner" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/307753
21:22 <epsy> another big bug :\
21:22 <Paralyzed> ep
21:22 <Paralyzed> whats supposed to happen
21:22 <Paralyzed> i choose booth with CD-R Device
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21:23 <Lizmatic> ups
21:23 <epsy> it generally does that when the CD is not in the CD drive
21:23 <Paralyzed> the cd IS in the driee
21:23 <epsy> or if it isn't able to boot
21:23 <Paralyzed> it just started normally
21:23 <Paralyzed> it said
21:23 <epsy> did you really burn it as an ISO?
21:23 <Paralyzed> *BLAH BLAH CDR DEVICE*
21:23 <Paralyzed> yes i did
21:23 <epsy> define normally
21:24 <PinkTomato> have to go byebye
21:24 <Paralyzed> nothings different
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21:24 <epsy> it boots windows?
21:24 <Paralyzed> didnt ake me to any special type of set up
21:24 <Paralyzed> yes
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21:24 <epsy> when you mount the CD, what are it's contents
21:24 <Paralyzed> oh nvm
21:24 <Paralyzed> went to my computer
21:24 <Paralyzed> and choose the icon :]
21:25 <epsy> ?
21:25 <Paralyzed> i just went inside my computer
21:25 <Paralyzed> and clicked drive e
21:25 <epsy> inside?
21:25 <Paralyzed> and it brought up ubuntu cd menu
21:25 <Paralyzed> the file my computer
21:25 <epsy> yeah so you properly burned it
21:25 <Paralyzed> yea well all in all
21:25 <Paralyzed> im on ubuntu cd menu
21:25 <epsy> since when is it drive E:/ and not M:/ or N:/ ? Oo
21:26 <Paralyzed> idk rofl
21:26 <Paralyzed> do i click install inside windows option?
21:26 <epsy> well, if that works..
21:26 <Paralyzed> "if? "
21:26 <epsy> Paralyzed, do you know about the partitions stuff
21:26 <Paralyzed> no.
21:26 <epsy> Paralyzed, idk, that's the first time I hear about this
21:27 <Paralyzed> but u have worked with ubuntu before correct?
21:27 <epsy> ok, well, whenever it prompts you about it, ask me
21:27 <epsy> somewhat 2 and a half years ago
21:27 <Ady-Lucifer> o.O dont install from windows
21:27 <Paralyzed> i choose the second option on the first portion of ubuntu set up
21:28 <Paralyzed> theres demo and full install
21:28 <Paralyzed> install inside windows
21:28 <Paralyzed> and learn more
21:28 <Ady-Lucifer> you can delete windows acidentally if you dont know what you do Paralyzed
21:28 <epsy> what?
21:28 <Paralyzed> Luc can you explain what im supposed to do then =/ ;o
21:28 <Paralyzed> i dont want to delete it
21:28 <Ady-Lucifer> you want to install ubuntu?
21:29 <Paralyzed> i want it to prompt me at start up for ubun and windows
21:29 <Paralyzed> correct
21:29 <Ady-Lucifer> u got it burnt on a cD?
21:29 <Paralyzed> correct
21:29 <epsy> Ady-Lucifer, yeah, the problem is that when he boots using the DELL boot menu, it's just windows that fires up
21:29 <Paralyzed> im on ubuntu CD Menu
21:29 <Ady-Lucifer> you've made a ext3 partition?
21:29 <Paralyzed> No . :o
21:29 <Ady-Lucifer> mh
21:29 <epsy> well, the CD can do that
21:30 <Ady-Lucifer> You can setup boot priority on BIOS menu
21:30 <Paralyzed> i would try to take a snapshot to explain but uhh
21:30 <Ady-Lucifer> or press f10 i think during start
21:30 <epsy> Ady-Lucifer, do you know if the livecd has xchat on it?
21:30 <Ady-Lucifer> no it hasnt
21:30 <Paralyzed> so what am i to do now
21:30 <epsy> hrm
21:30 <epsy> Ady-Lucifer, irssi?
21:30 <Paralyzed> i booted up with cd device
21:30 <Ady-Lucifer> Paralyzed, do you know how to use bios?
21:31 <Paralyzed> no =[ im a noob on that stuff dude ;]
21:31 <Ady-Lucifer> :S
21:31 <Ady-Lucifer> epsy,  no idea what that is
21:31 <Paralyzed> let me explain
21:31 <epsy> Ady-Lucifer, irc clien t
21:31 <Ady-Lucifer> it has some kind of trillian
21:31 <Ady-Lucifer> with irc support
21:31 <Paralyzed> i booted up. pressed f12 on menu
21:31 <Paralyzed> around 10 options came up
21:31 <Ady-Lucifer> f10
21:31 <Paralyzed> i choose the one with "CD-RDevice"
21:31 <Paralyzed> it started up
21:31 <Paralyzed> i logged in to my desktop
21:31 <Paralyzed> went into my computer
21:31 <Paralyzed> choose the cd drive
21:32 <Paralyzed> unbuntu cd menu came up
21:32 <MaZuffeR> epsy, i think it has pidgin
21:32 <Ady-Lucifer> lemme insert my ubuntu disc
21:32 <Ady-Lucifer> wait
21:32 <Ady-Lucifer> yes pidgin
21:32 <Paralyzed> 3 buttons are no up
21:32 <Paralyzed> with info under all
21:32 <epsy> Paralyzed, wait, is it INSIDE windows or not?
21:32 <Ady-Lucifer> Paralyzed, hang on
21:32 <Paralyzed> i have yet to install it espy
21:32 <Paralyzed> im on ubun cd menu
21:32 <epsy> Paralyzed, wait, is it INSIDE windows or not?
21:32 <Ady-Lucifer> maybe its possible to install it from windows but on another partition
21:33 <Paralyzed> it says this
21:33 <Paralyzed> i will wite it out
21:33 <epsy> Ady-Lucifer, I seriousely doubt you can resize the partition you'rfe currently working with, so that wont work
21:33 <Paralyzed> Button "Install inside windows"
21:33 <Paralyzed> under it says
21:33 <Ady-Lucifer> u resize it before doin the stuff
21:33 <epsy> Paralyzed, is it inside windows or have you really booted DIRECTLY to the CD without goign through windows?
21:33 <epsy> answer me..
21:33 <Paralyzed> install and uninstall ubuntu like any other application, without the need for a dedicated partation.
21:33 <Ady-Lucifer> epsy, it seems u can isntall ubuntu on windows's parition
21:33 <Paralyzed> i went through windows
21:34 <Ady-Lucifer> but since when linux works good on ntfs
21:34 <epsy> right, so that wont work
21:34 <epsy> Ady-Lucifer, that means a virtual machine
21:34 <Paralyzed> you will be able to either windows or ubuntu.
21:34 <Ady-Lucifer> well that's crap
21:34 <epsy> Paralyzed, if you install it as any other app you will be running it though windows on a virtual machine
21:34 <Paralyzed>  install and uninstall ubuntu like any other application, without the need for a dedicated partation. you will be able to either windows or ubuntu. Hibernation is not enabled in this mode and disk peformance slighty reduced.
21:35 <epsy> which is not really what you want, is it?
21:35 <Ady-Lucifer> Paralyzed, you should defragment your hard drive
21:35 <Paralyzed> is what it says under the instlal inside windows button
21:35 <Paralyzed> itried last night
21:35 <Paralyzed> it says
21:35 <armabot> lpbugs: [307753] map settings are always run with access level Owner
21:35 <Paralyzed> my computer has inconsisties
21:35 <Paralyzed> around 35 percent
21:35 <Ady-Lucifer> duh
21:35 <Paralyzed> and too run chkdsk
21:35 <epsy> lol
21:35 <Paralyzed> ive tried that
21:35 <epsy> that's enormous :O
21:35 <Ady-Lucifer> yeah
21:36 <epsy> Paralyzed, http://ask.metafilter.com/27833/Booting-a-Dell-from-an-Ubuntu-live-CD-How
21:36 <epsy> I can't get over 5% here
21:36 <epsy> read first comment
21:36 <Ady-Lucifer> just as i said, set booting priority in bios
21:37 <Ady-Lucifer> but thats not logical, how the hell did u install windows
21:37 <Ady-Lucifer> ah forget that
21:37 <Paralyzed> uhm..
21:37 <epsy> Ady-Lucifer, OEM?
21:37 <Ady-Lucifer> forget that
21:37 <Ady-Lucifer> lol
21:37 <Paralyzed> im on my desktop
21:37 <Paralyzed> in ubuntu cd menu
21:37 <Paralyzed> thats all i can say ;]
21:37 <Ady-Lucifer> the question is
21:37 <epsy> Paralyzed, read first comment at http://ask.metafilter.com/27833/Booting-a-Dell-from-an-Ubuntu-live-CD-How
21:37 <Ady-Lucifer> do you really need ubuntu?
21:37 <epsy> Paralyzed, then do it
21:38 <epsy> Paralyzed, you will have to boot from the live CD
21:38 <Paralyzed> i did that
21:38 <Ady-Lucifer> epsy, if he doesnt even know how to make a partition will he know to sudo?
21:38 <Ady-Lucifer> lol
21:38 <Paralyzed> thats how im in the menu in the first place
21:38 <epsy> then you may need to start pidgin on IRC so that you can chan with us
21:38 <epsy> or you may also use a web IRC
21:38  * Ady-Lucifer recommends the web
21:38 <epsy> Ady-Lucifer, you don't really need to sudo under ubuntu
21:39  * epsy would too
21:39 <Ady-Lucifer> epsy, sometimes u do :D
21:39  * Paralyzed confused
21:39 <Ady-Lucifer> lol
21:39 <Paralyzed> listen i know nothing about this.(really)
21:39 <epsy> Paralyzed, did you just use the boot menu? or did you change boot order?
21:39 <Paralyzed> i clicked f12 to boot menu
21:39 <Ady-Lucifer> no f12
21:39 <Paralyzed> choose CDR-DEVice
21:39 <Ady-Lucifer> press 'del'
21:39 <Ady-Lucifer> the key over enter
21:39 <Paralyzed> im a dell
21:40 <Ady-Lucifer> and?
21:40 <Paralyzed> ok
21:40 <Paralyzed> and after then
21:40 <BabyBug> Ady-Lucifer, Dell laptops, F2 for BIOS....F12 for boot selection...
21:40 <Ady-Lucifer> it says down there ' press X to enter boot menu'
21:40 <Ady-Lucifer> BabyBug, ty, so f2 then
21:40 <Paralyzed> mine says
21:40 <Paralyzed> F12 = Boot Menu
21:40 <Paralyzed> ok
21:40 <Paralyzed> f2
21:40 <Paralyzed> then whats next.
21:40 <Ady-Lucifer> write what u see
21:41 <epsy> find the boot order screen
21:41 <Ady-Lucifer> u got a webcam?
21:41 <Paralyzed> no. lol
21:41 <Ady-Lucifer> no cybersex for me then
21:41 <Ady-Lucifer> :P
21:41 <Paralyzed> hmm ok
21:41 <Paralyzed> ill try that..
21:41 <Ady-Lucifer> even tho f12 should also work ?
21:42 <Paralyzed> yes i did that before i started up
21:42 <Paralyzed> thats how im even able to access it
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21:42 <epsy> Ady-Lucifer, not sure
21:42 <Ady-Lucifer> u got a floppy drive
21:42 <Ady-Lucifer> ?
21:42 <Paralyzed> no
21:42 <Paralyzed> i have one
21:42 <Paralyzed> but i dont have a disk
21:43 <Ady-Lucifer> crap
21:43 <epsy> why did you buy the floppy drive then?
21:43 <Ady-Lucifer> so why do u need ubuntu?
21:43 <Ady-Lucifer> epsy, it came with the package :P
21:43 <Ady-Lucifer> since 92
21:43 <Ady-Lucifer> lol
21:43 <epsy> Ady-Lucifer, it's optionnal at DELL
21:43 <Paralyzed> Ady-Lucifer, better fps
21:43 <Ady-Lucifer> Paralyzed, i got less fps on ubuntu
21:43 <Ady-Lucifer> since im an ATI
21:44 <epsy> Ady-Lucifer, you are a GFX card?!
21:44 <Paralyzed> ur comp is wierd then
21:44 <Ady-Lucifer> yes im a gfx card and i have 4 cores...
21:44 <Ady-Lucifer> bla
21:44 <Paralyzed> k so i reboot
21:44 <Ady-Lucifer> Paralyzed, no, linux is known to work better with nvidias
21:44 <Paralyzed> -.-
21:44 <BabyBug> When's my FTGL bug going to be fixed!! *growls*
21:44 <Ady-Lucifer> + u wont be able to play many games.....!
21:44 <Paralyzed> all i play is arma
21:45 <epsy> @8ball When's BabyBug FTGL bug going to be fixed??
21:45 <teabot> epsy: No.
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21:45 <BabyBug> fu
21:45 <epsy> ^^
21:45 <epsy> @8ball When's BabyBug FTGL bug going to be fixed??
21:45 <Paralyzed> so are you sure its beetter "not to get" ubuntu?
21:45 <teabot> epsy: Unlikely.
21:45 <Ady-Lucifer> Paralyzed, its not worth the effort
21:45 <BabyBug> Fix it! ><
21:46 <epsy> BabyBug, bah, we should merge unicode and baste
21:46 <Paralyzed> @8ball should i get ubuntu?
21:46 <teabot> Paralyzed: Maybe...
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21:46 <Ady-Lucifer> what you could do is get a core duo and a better gfx
21:46 <Paralyzed> @8ball is ubuntu better for me or should i stick with windowS?
21:46 <teabot> Paralyzed: The answer is a resounding no.
21:46 <Ady-Lucifer> LOL
21:46 <epsy> the only effort here is the make the disc fucking boot
21:46 <BabyBug> Paralyzed, If you're struggling to boot the CD...You're going to completely fail at using linux.....
21:46 <Ady-Lucifer> yeah
21:46 <Paralyzed> lol im not struggling ,
21:46 <Paralyzed> im at the ubuntu menu
21:47 <Ady-Lucifer> aptitude remove ubuntu.deb!!!
21:47 <Ady-Lucifer> xD
21:47 <epsy> the big dark screen?
21:47 <BabyBug> then what's the problem...........
21:47 <Paralyzed> but they're telling me not to
21:47 <epsy> the big dark screen?
21:47 <Paralyzed> no the ubuntu menu with 3  buttons
21:47 <epsy> inside windows?
21:47 <Ady-Lucifer> Paralyzed, dont touch that
21:47 <Paralyzed> when u first open the cd
21:47 <BabyBug> Plymouth in Jaunty!! No more big dark screen!! =D
21:47 <epsy> inside windows?
21:47 <Paralyzed> yes inside windows o
21:47 <Paralyzed> on my user acocunt
21:47 <Ady-Lucifer> ...
21:47 <Paralyzed> small minimized box
21:47 <epsy> well that's not what you want and I really doubt you should use that
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21:47 <Paralyzed> why is openining when i click the CD?
21:48 <Paralyzed> @8ball is luke cool?
21:48 <epsy> it's just some randome fancy
21:48 <teabot> Paralyzed: The answer is a resounding no.
21:48 <Paralyzed> LOL
21:48 <Paralyzed> @8ball i r cool?
21:48 <teabot> Paralyzed: One would be wise to think so.
21:48 <Ady-Lucifer> to install it properlu u should 1.defragment 2. make a ext3 partition 3. make a swap partition , 4 set ext3 partition to active and since udont hgave a floppy disk and u cant boot from cd ur pc is screwed. 5, run from cd and install lUnIX
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21:49 <Paralyzed> when i didnt boot
21:49 <Paralyzed> i couldnt open cd by clicking
21:49 <Paralyzed> it just brought up files
21:49 <Paralyzed> when i did
21:49 <Paralyzed> the window oponed
21:49 <Paralyzed> opened*
21:49 <epsy> the window?
21:49 <Ady-Lucifer> Paralyzed, what videocard do you have?
21:49 <Paralyzed> Luc, dont know ;]
21:49 <Ady-Lucifer> LOL
21:49 <Ady-Lucifer> And are you sure it will work better under linux?
21:50 <Paralyzed> My mind tells me so
21:50 <Paralyzed> Aka: Ratchet
21:50 <epsy> that's why he wants to dualboot..
21:50 <Ady-Lucifer> Go into screen properties
21:50 <Ady-Lucifer> There's the videocard thing
21:50 <Paralyzed> intel?
21:50 <Ady-Lucifer> from where u change the resolutioon
21:50 <Ady-Lucifer> OOO
21:50 <Ady-Lucifer> INTEL
21:50 <Ady-Lucifer> integrated chip
21:50 <Ady-Lucifer> LOL
21:51 <epsy> holy :x
21:51 <Paralyzed> why do people never seise to "LOL" when someone isnt expierenced at this kind of stuff =/
21:51 <Ady-Lucifer> well some intel support shader 3.0 :P
21:51 <Ady-Lucifer> but you SHOULD get a videocard mate
21:51 <Ady-Lucifer> since you dont have ANY
21:51 <Ady-Lucifer> lol
21:51 <Paralyzed> 82865G5 Graphics Controller
21:51 <epsy> well, you CAN try, but seriousely, intel's are the one's that tend to be the most annoying ones with linux
21:52 <Paralyzed> forget it
21:52 <epsy> Paralyzed, any number <1000 and >800 ?
21:52 <Ady-Lucifer> Paralyzed,  listen to me, dont switch to linux, instead get a cheap 9250 radeon for 20$
21:52 <Paralyzed> i know nothing about computers
21:52 <Paralyzed> its alright
21:53 <Paralyzed> about computers when it comes to a new OS
21:53 <Paralyzed> something else maybe
21:53 <Ady-Lucifer> u're running vista?
21:53 <Paralyzed> no.
21:53 <Paralyzed> are you going to LOL again
21:53 <Ady-Lucifer> no
21:53 <Paralyzed> if i say windows xp
21:53 <Ady-Lucifer> vista sucks
21:53 <Paralyzed> what's i heard
21:53 <epsy> brb, dinner
21:54 <Ady-Lucifer> have you tried any other games
21:54 <Paralyzed> world of warcraft trial
21:54 <Ady-Lucifer> thats not a game
21:54 <Paralyzed> :}
21:54 <Paralyzed> yea it is
21:54 <Paralyzed> :D
21:54 <Ady-Lucifer> can u run games from 2005?
21:54 <Ady-Lucifer> nfsu 2
21:54 <Paralyzed> wtf is that
21:54 <Paralyzed> @nfsu 2
21:54 <Ady-Lucifer> :O
21:54 <Ady-Lucifer> @g nfsu 2
21:54 <teabot> Ady-Lucifer: http://www.ea.com/official/nfs/underground2/us/home.jsp - EA | Need for Speed Underground 2
21:54 <Paralyzed> no
21:54 <Paralyzed> need for speed
21:55 <Paralyzed> duh lol
21:55 <Ady-Lucifer> @g cheap 9250 site:ebay.com
21:55 <teabot> Ady-Lucifer: http://cgi.ebay.com/**BRAND-NEW**-ATI-RADEON-9250-GRAPHICS-CARD_W0QQitemZ190273271130QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20081211?IMSfp=TL081211136006r485 - **BRAND NEW** ATI RADEON 9250 GRAPHICS CARD - eBay (item ...
21:55 <akira_arma> .tea
21:55 <tronner> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (5/32): CtxWoned, Ct_Conkord (Concord@ct), CT_emmy, Ct_PunK, ¦×¦ Hoax
21:55 <hoax> #tea
21:55 <Ady-Lucifer> im gone to finish some stuff
21:55 <armabot> hoax: Fortress Café: Players (4/32): CtxWoned, CT_emmy, Ct_PunK, Ct~Conkord (Concord@ct)
21:56 <Ady-Lucifer> Paralyzed, hope we0ve helped, u dont need an OS switch :)
21:56 <Paralyzed> wouldnt know how to insert it
21:56 <Paralyzed> im not gonna anyway
21:56 <Paralyzed> ill stick to windows i guess hmph
21:56 <Ady-Lucifer> its just like inserting a N64 cartridge
21:57 <Ady-Lucifer> how old is ur pc
21:57 <Paralyzed> alright welll ill look into it
21:57 <Paralyzed> LOL no im not gonna say
21:57 <Ady-Lucifer> i wont laugh
21:57 <Paralyzed> i would say
21:57 <Paralyzed> 2004-2005
21:57 <Ady-Lucifer> time to get a new one
21:57 <Paralyzed> yep i know
21:58 <Ady-Lucifer> anyway get a 9250 or better in AGP  i doubt they have pcie for those ones
21:58 <Ady-Lucifer> lol
21:58 <Ady-Lucifer> or if u want full graphic power get a x1650pro agp for 100 bucks  even tho its cheaper to get a new pc
21:59  * Ady-Lucifer is away: afk
21:59 <Ady-Lucifer> im gone to finish my stuff, gl with that :)
21:59 <Paralyzed> ok thanks
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22:01 <BabyBug> .tea
22:01 <tronner> BabyBug: Fortress Café: Players (8/32): %|% Corn, BabyBug, CtxWoned, CT_emmy, Ct_PunK, CT|Concord (Concord@ct), Retard, ~*ScChIiZzO*~
22:01 <BabyBug> jooooooooooooooooooin
22:02 <noob13> Ady-Lucifer: CT wild sumo needs cycle_wall_time :)
22:02 <noob13> .cfg cycle_wall_time
22:02 <tronner> noob13: CYCLE_WALL_TIME: Time in seconds a cycle does not make a wall after a respawn. (default: 0) || CYCLE_WALL_TIME_OVERRIDE: UNDOCUMENTED (default: 3)
22:02 <Ady-Lucifer> thanks
22:02 <noob13> it should also be equal to cycle_invulnerable_time
22:04 <Ady-Lucifer> :)
22:07 <noob13> cool server idea, btw :)
22:08 <noob13> although the respawn is a bit unfair towards players with no teammate :P
22:08 <Ady-Lucifer> thanks, and yeah, but theres nothing i can do about , ++ that way we enforce teamplay :P
22:08 <noob13> maybe respawn_time or base_enemy_respawn could fix that?
22:08 <noob13> yea, i see.
22:09 <Ady-Lucifer> not nice to respawn enemies, and the resp time makes players res even if the zones arent there
22:09 <noob13> yep :(
22:11 <Ady-Lucifer> maybe setting more points for the kills, so a single player would kill and get enough points even if he doesnt conquer any zone
22:19 <Lizmatic> .tea
22:19 <tronner> Lizmatic: Fortress Café: Players (16/32): %|% Corn (Corn1@forums), BabyBug, black people, CTxConcord (Concord@ct), CtxWoned, CT_emmy, Ct_PunK, epsy¦×¦ (epsy@forums), free kill, luke-jr (luke@dashjr.org), MarkyMark, MaZuffeR, noob13, Retard, ¦×¦ Lizmatic (Lizmatic@forums), ¦×¦ viper
22:24 <luke-jr> epsy: f u
22:39 <Lizmatic> hahahahahahaha luke-jr
22:39 <luke-jr> Lizmatic: F U TOO
22:40 <hoax> luke-jr: LOL!
22:40 <luke-jr> hoax: >:O
22:40 <hoax> *<:D
22:41  * luke-jr makes a DDoS on cafe…
22:41 <luke-jr> j/k :D
22:41 <dlh> you started polls against other people unjustly. don't be mad when they do it to you and succeed.
22:41 <Corn> lmfao
22:41 <dlh> and you had many teamkills...
22:41 <luke-jr> dlh: you were there⁈
22:42 <Corn> Oo
22:42 <dlh> yeah
22:42 <dlh> .tea
22:42 <tronner> dlh: Fortress Café: Players (12/32): %|% Corn (Corn1@forums), BabyBug, CtxWoned, CT_emmy, epsy¦×¦ (epsy@forums), free kill, MaZuffeR, Shadow Blade, thomas, ¦×¦ Hoax, ¦×¦ Lizmatic (Lizmatic@forums), ¦×¦ viper
22:42 <Corn> under what?
22:42 <hoax> :P
22:42 <Lizmatic> luke-jr is a TROLL
22:43 <BabyBug> troll is an overstatement
22:43 <dlh> oh it is hiding my auth status
22:43 <dlh> free kill
22:43 <luke-jr> o
22:43 <luke-jr> what happened to nemostultae?
22:44 <hoax> ^^
22:44 <dlh> i just play under a different name now
22:58 <Lizmatic> epsy? coming x server?
22:58 <SageLord> .tea
22:58 <tronner> SageLord: Fortress Café: Players (10/32): %|% Corn (Corn1@forums), CtxWoned, CT_emmy, Ct_PunK, epsy¦×¦ (epsy@forums), Lol :P, MaZuffeR, TY, ~*SwayZ*~, ¦×¦ Hoax
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23:27 <SageLord> .tea
23:27 <tronner> SageLord: Fortress Café: Players (8/32): C3ntur10N, ê, L3g10nna1r3, Mycroft_Holmes, PPekter, woodstock, ~*FagtoM*~, ~|DS|~G5
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Log from 2008-12-14:
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00:07 <BabyBug> .ls jenny
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00:07 <tronner> Ady-Lucifer: BabyBug seems to be on Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!) right now.
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00:39 <armabot> lpbugs: [307790] configure: error: conditional "AMDEP" was never defined.
00:51 <epsy> bug 307790
00:51 <epsy> blah
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00:51 <dlh> blah indeed
00:52 <epsy> http://launchpad.net/bugs/307790
00:52  * epsy clicks
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00:53 <epsy> #later tell wrtlprnft do you think it is OK to make a backup of rain's FTS and lay the task down to concord?
00:53 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
00:54 <epsy> #later tell wrtlprnft I'm talking bout the task of working on these settings, of course :)
00:54 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
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00:55 <epsy> bug 307790
00:55 <teabot> Launchpad bug 307790 in armagetronad "configure: error: conditional "AMDEP" was never defined." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/307790
00:55 <epsy> good bot
00:57 <epsy> gah, I remember someone posting a video on which he increased the distance rubber kicks in to show How the cycle moves once it starts being affected by rubber
00:57 <epsy> I really can't find it again :s
00:59 <epsy> was it perhaps you, dlh ?
00:59 <dlh> nope, wasn't me
01:00 <dlh> was it on youtube or a similar site?
01:01 <dlh> is it this? http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=1684 Jonathan's headlight mod?
01:03 <epsy> probably not, I guess it was on youtube, but I can't really find anything relevant on it
01:06 <epsy> dlh, also, I could fix the unistd.h issue by actually doing what the doc says
01:07 <epsy> (same happened for SDL when not compiling a dedi
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01:14 <Lucifer> I hate myself for loving you, can't break free from the things that you do, etc...
01:14  * Lucifer loves Joan Jett
01:14 <luke-jr> ……
01:17 <dlh> epsy: thanks. I just fixed it myself and it also fixed the error in the bugreport
01:17 <dlh> oh wait, I'm at a previous rev.
01:17 <dlh> maybe not
01:18 <epsy> check your diff
01:18 <antric> oh, black betty, bam ba lam
01:19 <Lucifer> hey, I didn't know Lita Ford and Joan Jett were in a band together
01:19 <Lucifer> that's hot
01:19 <Lucifer> I wonder if they ever kissed on stage
01:19 <antric> i think ive only ever heard one lita ford song, and it was with ozzy
01:22 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/slyshot/quimica-2.aamap.xml: Resource by slyshot
01:23 <epsy> let's sum up today's work..
01:23 <epsy> I added two lines in a wiki article..weeh
01:24 <epsy> 2 of them being just titles
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01:28 <epsy> good night
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01:31 <madmax> #later tell epsy subtle!
01:31 <armabot> madmax: The operation succeeded.
01:32 <Lucifer> antric: she also did "Kiss me deadly"
01:33 <Lucifer> I want to be the bass player in an otherwise all-girl band
01:34 <luke-jr_> anyone know where the PHP arma client is?
01:43 <Lucifer> hey, any of you germans can help?
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01:44 <Lucifer> I want a torrent of all of Nena's stuff, but I'd like both german and english wherever both are available :)
01:44 <ivantis2> guess where i am
01:44 <ivantis2> my G1!
01:45 <ivantis2> who was it that was talking about the google phone a few weeks ago?
01:45 <ivantis2> StickyNoob?
01:45 <ivantis2> this is such a great phone
01:46 <ivantis2> :)
01:47 <StickyNo1b> what?
01:47 <ivantis2> werent you talking about googles android a few weeks ago?
01:48 <StickyNo1b> possibly
01:48 <StickyNo1b> yeah its quite good
01:48 <ivantis2> i got a G1 yesterday
01:48 <StickyNo1b> i got a bit pissed when i found out that you can only upload signed kernels
01:48 <ivantis2> you have one? or the SDK with the emu?
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01:49 <StickyNo1b> no i dont have one
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01:49 <StickyNo1b> i may get one if the prices come down
01:49 <ivantis2> yeah and since RC30 you do not get root on tmobile ones
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01:50 <ivantis2> maybe i should have gotten a dev phone
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01:52 <Lizmatic> Aaron?
01:52 <Lizmatic> aren't you asian? your name should be something like Liu Liong
01:52 <ivantis2> racist
01:53 <ivantis2> i know some asian people whos names sound not asian
01:55 <Lizmatic> please, gtfo with 'racist' and take your witchhunt elsewhere
01:55 <Lizmatic> :P
01:55 <StickyNo1b> asians(or atleast chinese) tend to have 2 names
01:56 <StickyNo1b> a western name and a chinese name
01:56 <ivantis2> ...
01:56 <Lizmatic> see? HA!
01:56 <Lizmatic> plus it was a joke, sage knows that, but next time I say something to a person that isnt you I'll consider your feelings, Ivantis
01:56 <ivantis2> is this not a really racist conversation?
01:56 <ivantis2> see?
01:56 <StickyNo1b> ivantis2: its true
01:57 <Lizmatic> omg, racist? people throw the word "racist" way too quickly.. seriously.
01:57 <ivantis2> im not asian, but i really dont like racism
01:57 <Lizmatic> ITS NOT RACISM
01:57 <Lizmatic> if my name is gunther and someone says HEY THAT DOESNT SOUND DUTCH, it isnt racism
01:57 <ivantis2> okaay
01:57 <Lizmatic> thanks
01:58  * StickyNo1b turns to chinese girlfriend and asks here what her chinese name is again
01:58 <ivantis2> yeah ppl say 'are you russian' to me a lot because my na,e
01:58 <ivantis2> name is ivan
01:58 <Lizmatic> do you call them a racist?
01:58 <Lizmatic> ;s
01:58 <ivantis2> no
01:58 <Lizmatic> so what was racist about this whole thing again?
01:59 <StickyNo1b> but isnt stating a fact about another culture raceist?
01:59 <Lizmatic> my thoughts exactly
01:59 <Lizmatic> ..i'm really bored
01:59 <Lizmatic> lol :x
01:59 <ivantis2> saying that because sagelord is asian that they should have an asian name
02:00 <Lizmatic> <Lizmatic> plus it was a joke, sage knows that, but next time I say something to a person that isnt you I'll consider your feelings, Ivantis
02:01 <ivantis2> hold on..let me find a youtube video that you will laugh at in this circumstance
02:01 <StickyNo1b> the term asian is ambigous anyway
02:01 <StickyNo1b> *ambiguous
02:03 <ivantis2> i cant find the video, but look at this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chinese_Woman
02:03 <ivantis2> yeah, my G1 has copy/paste
02:04 <ivantis2> :P
02:05 <StickyNo1b> sweet, best feature ever
02:05 <madmax> what phone these days doesn't!? oh wait...
02:05 <ivantis2> that episode is really funny
02:06 <StickyNo1b> sinefeld really dosnt translate well to europe
02:06 <ivantis2> okay, im out
02:06 <ivantis2> later everone
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02:07 <StickyNo1b> it seems to be a massive hit in America but almost never shows around UK
02:07 <mkzelda> spelling it like that made your quote epic
02:07 <StickyNo1b> heh
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02:38 <Lucifer> oh, rock me amadeus
02:38 <luke-jr> y
02:39 <Lucifer> Lizmatic: aren't you a kangaroo lover?
02:39  * Lucifer waits for the racist card to be played
02:40 <Lucifer> I've got an Asian penis.  You don't want to get involved in a land war in it.
02:41 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: flag fort:P
02:42 <Lucifer> heh
02:43 <Lucifer> not right this minute, but maybe a bit later ;)
02:43 <Lizmatic> Lucifer: Kangaroo lover? wtf
02:43 <Lizmatic> theyre cute I guess
02:43 <Lizmatic> :D
02:43 <Lucifer> I hate myself for loving you, can't breka free (etc)
02:44 <ct|kyle> heh, i thought it was past 10 PM EST
02:44 <Lucifer> I want to figure out the guitar parts for this song and kinda rewrite the lyrics
02:45 <Lucifer> Lizmatic: er, maybe you're not the liz I thought you were, heh ;)
02:45 <Lucifer> oh man, that song's not finished downloading
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04:19 <ct|kyle> .flag
04:19 <tronner> Adventures of TRON >>> Flag Fortress <<<: Players (4/10): ctt_sine.wav, Figi, Jesus, Kitty
04:21  * BabyBug cuddles ct|kyle 
04:21 <BabyBug> ;)
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05:35 <Paralyzed> hey guys quick question
05:36 <Paralyzed> will making tron top priorty like on windows task manager will that give you better game peformance
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05:50 <Lucifer> yes
05:50 <Lucifer> heh
05:50  * Lucifer loves answering questions after people have left, with the answer they wanted
05:53 <ct|kyle> .flag
05:53 <tronner> Adventures of TRON >>> Flag Fortress <<<: Players (5/10): /NEWB#1, C$ Nitrous, ctt_sine.wav, luke-jr, paco la chimpa
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06:05 <Lucifer> Nena has the most beautiful voice ever
06:12 <ivantis> here are the asian-racist quotes i was getting at in the wikipedia thing:
06:12 <ivantis>     * Elaine: Donna Chang?
06:12 <ivantis>     Jerry: I shoulda talked to her. I love Chinese women.
06:12 <ivantis>     Elaine: Isn't that a little racist?
06:12 <ivantis>     Jerry: If I like their race, how can that be racist?
06:12 <ivantis>     * Estelle: Who are you?
06:12 <ivantis>     Donna: I'm Donna Chang.
06:12 <ivantis>     Estelle: (recoils) You're not Chinese!
06:12 <ivantis>     * Elaine: She's not Chinese?
06:12 <ivantis>     Jerry: No, not Chinese. Not even Asian.
06:12 <ivantis>     Elaine: So, what is she?
06:12 <ivantis>     Jerry: Well, she's... like you.
06:12 <ivantis>     Elaine: Oh, how disappointed you must have been.
06:16 <luke-jr> ivantis: why did you waste my bandwidth with that?
06:16 <ivantis> luke-jr: you arent hosting calkins
06:17 <luke-jr> ivantis: and?
06:17 <ivantis> luke-jr: &&?
06:17 <ivantis> do you have a G1 luke-jr?
06:18 <luke-jr> do you have a penis ivantis?
06:18 <ivantis> answer me first
06:18 <luke-jr> no
06:18 <luke-jr> I don't have to answer to you
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06:18 <luke-jr> n00b
06:18 <ivantis> i dont have to answer you
06:18 <sinewav> haha
06:18 <ivantis> but i will anyway: "yes"
06:19 <luke-jr> ivantis: I didn't ask you to lie.
06:19 <ivantis> good thing i didnt
06:19 <luke-jr>   693M djvision
06:19 <sinewav> ah, hermaphodite...
06:19 <luke-jr> biggest bandwidth user on that server :þ
06:19 <luke-jr> other than hiro
06:19 <sinewav> is that a bad sine?
06:19 <sinewav> `heh
06:19 <luke-jr>  1769G hiro
06:20 <sinewav> hmm
06:20 <sinewav> well, that flag fort is a pretty neat game, but CT is gonna hijack it
06:20 <luke-jr> y
06:21 <sinewav> because they want a euro version
06:21 <luke-jr> sue them for patent royalties
06:21 <sinewav> `ping!
06:21 <sinewav> isn't my idea anyway ;)
06:21 <luke-jr> …it was a joke
06:21 <luke-jr> sinewav: Yandere in #Anime ?
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07:27 <luke-jr> grr
07:27 <luke-jr> how to disable anti-spam crap?
07:46 <Lucifer> awwww, where'd durka go?
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13:18 <Lizmatic> o/
13:20 <BabyBug> \o
13:21 <Lucifer> \o/
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13:29 <Lizmatic> *yawn*
13:32 <epsy> omg NO
13:32 <Lizmatic> :|
13:32 <epsy> :O
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13:39  * BabyBug pokes epsy 
13:40 <hoop> epsy how does it work switching from fort to sumo and vicevers in fort test server?
13:41 <epsy> external script watching for players
13:41 <hoop> armahacktron?
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13:41 <epsy> nope
13:41 <hoop> what does the script read?
13:41 <epsy> regular logs
13:41  * Lizmatic is eating c00kies
13:41 <epsy> \o BabyBug
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13:42 <hoop> epsy: how does it know if players are(n't) in spec mode?
13:42 <epsy> can't remember
13:42 <hoop> may i have the script?
13:42 <epsy> second
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13:44 <epsy> well, I just erased it while trying to make an archive otu of it
13:44 <hoop> epsy: the "half fortress" script is done, I'd like to merge in it sumo when players < 4
13:45 <hoop> though it uses the ct hack to work
13:45 <epsy> well, watch for these ladderlog messages at the end of the rounds
13:45 <epsy> blah, fuck me
13:45 <hoop> I'm stuck with it
13:45 <epsy> how come?
13:46 <hoop> when round starts it logs NUM_HUMANS, but it's too late to change the map
13:46 <epsy> same happens on FTS
13:46 <epsy> well, happened
13:46 <hoop> ok, so the game changes in next round?
13:46 <epsy> yeah
13:46 <hoop> even if players become 4 i guess
13:46 <hoop> *from 3
13:46 <epsy> or use wait_for_external script
13:47 <epsy> it should read stdin
13:47 <epsy> now I gotta ask you for your code :<
13:47 <hoop> no way, NUM_HUMANS is logged when the round start counter has reached 1
13:48 <epsy> ah
13:48 <epsy> what about round_score?
13:48 <hoop> for what?
13:48 <epsy> .misc tell epsy cfg ladderlog
13:48 <epsy> .misc tell epsy [cfg ladderlog]
13:48 <epsy> counting players?
13:49 <epsy> gah
13:49 <hoop> yea, not bad
13:50 <hoop> my script is based on start position, it's a bit silly
13:50 <hoop> but the way the team are positioned every round is quite silly too
13:50 <epsy> or just count players as they enter
13:50 <hoop> ladder_log is not exaustive
13:50 <epsy> not sure if that works correctly with spectators, tho
13:51 <hoop> exactly
13:51 <epsy> only round_score will tell you about team..grr that'stupid
13:52 <hoop> http://rafb.net/p/98eAHo17.html
13:53 <hoop> with that, defender switches every round
13:53 <hoop> (when players < 8)
13:58 <epsy> I think I use a copy of that script of x sumo.....
13:58 <epsy> I used*
13:59 <epsy> there's even the !feedback stuff, phew
14:01 <hoop> cant u just get it from fts?
14:01 <epsy> I just said I erased it while trying to make a tar out of it
14:02 <hoop> so fts isnt working like yesterday? XD
14:02 <epsy> well, it's still in RAM I guess
14:02 <hoop> ah
14:03 <hoop> heh, is it my fault u deleted it then? :s
14:03 <epsy> well no
14:07 <hoop> bbl
14:08 <PinkTomato> hmm... couldn't you count the players byt the score they got/
14:08 <PinkTomato> ROUND_SCORE?
14:08 <epsy> thaT's what I said :P
14:09 <PinkTomato> lol, sorry epsy :)
14:14 <Lizmatic> my mac has weird colors over the screen all of the sudden O_O
14:14 <Lizmatic> yay, my first bug!
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14:14 <epsy> LOL
14:15 <epsy> love the sleep mode kicking in
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14:16 <Lizmatic> FIX'D
14:16 <epsy> WORKAROUND'D
14:23 <BabyBug> You left me =(
14:23  * BabyBug kicks Lizmatic 
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14:42  * Lizmatic cries
14:42 <BabyBug> good
14:44 <Lizmatic> haha
14:45 <Lizmatic> bitch :(
14:45 <armabot> fts_feedback: epsy¦×¦ - test
14:45  * ct|kyle cuddles Lizmatic while throwing BabyBug in the quicksand 
14:45  * BabyBug doesn't let go of ct|kyle 
14:46  * ct|kyle custs off BabyBug's arms and legs and then throws her in the quicksand 
14:46  * BabyBug bites onto kyle and blows up
14:46 <BabyBug> mwhaha
14:47  * Lizmatic saves BabyBug
14:47 <BabyBug> took ya time >< I'm already in a million pieces!!
14:48 <Lizmatic> :D
14:48 <Lizmatic> more2love!
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14:49 <BabyBug> haha
14:56 <Lizmatic> mmmhungry
14:56 <epsy> @sd fort
14:56  * BabyBug wants a god damn curry but can't have one ><
14:56 <teabot> epsy: Fortress Test Server: Players (7/16): -»|hoop, CTT_speed, CTxTadd, epsy¦×¦, mary jane, mr.µ²³r@ze|, ~*<y<lo*~
14:57 <epsy> come over here :>
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14:59 <Lizmatic> a curry?
14:59 <BabyBug> yes a curry =P
14:59 <Lizmatic> http://www.bestofholland.es/winkel/products_pictures/Hela-ketchup.jpg this is curry here
15:00 <Lizmatic> xD
15:00  * BabyBug face palms
15:00 <BabyBug> Erm...Do you know what Chicken Tika is?
15:00 <epsy> BabyBug, Lizmatic: come at FTS
15:01  * BabyBug is busy =x
15:01 <epsy> pfff
15:01 <Lizmatic> Chicken Tika? no...
15:01 <Lizmatic> I don't like chicken.
15:01 <BabyBug> Hrmph..
15:01 <Lizmatic> I'm more of a hamburger type!
15:01 <Lizmatic> :D
15:01 <BabyBug> I don't know how to explain a curry!! xD
15:01  * Lizmatic lol'd
15:02 <BabyBug> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curry
15:02 <BabyBug> curry!!
15:02 <Lizmatic> I knew what you meant all along but its funny to tease you
15:04  * Lizmatic giggle
15:04 <BabyBug> !!
15:04  * BabyBug kicks Lizmatic again
15:04 <Lizmatic> =D
15:08 <antric> <BabyBug> Erm...Do you know what Chicken Tika is?
15:08 <antric> YUM!
15:08 <epsy> APT
15:08 <antric> GET
15:09 <epsy> PACMAN
15:09 <antric> SHAMAN
15:10 <Lizmatic> random
15:11 <antric> oh, im a dummy. i didnt even realize til now why he said apt in the first place
15:15 <armabot> fts_feedback: Ct_Concord - perhaps we need team colors, when two teams look practically the same
15:25 <armabot> fts_feedback: Ct_Concord - we should set team colors so this doesn't hapen
15:55 <armabot> fts_feedback: ¦×¦ Lizmatic - racism!!1!!
15:57 <epsy> lol antric
16:00 <Lizmatic> time for some WoW ^^
16:01 <epsy> w0wz
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16:02 <ivantis2> boring
16:02 <epsy> ivantis, got your G1 ?
16:03 <ivantis2> ya
16:03 <epsy> [n=Android@m2c0e36d0.tmodns.net]
16:03 <ivantis2> had it since friday night
16:04 <epsy> and you don't even wait for xmas?
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16:04 <epsy> pf
16:04 <ivantis2> early present
16:04 <ivantis2> from my parents
16:05 <ivantis2> maybe you need one
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16:06 <ivantis2> they are quite awesome
16:07 <epsy> T-Mobile exclusive isn't it?
16:07 <ivantis2> well yes if you buy it from tmobile
16:08 <ivantis2> or you can get a dev phone from google
16:08 <epsy> france is one of the few regions in the world to be free from t-Mobile, if I remember correctly
16:08 <ivantis2> well, get a dev phone
16:08 <epsy> however there are other people to annoy us >.<
16:08 <epsy> ivantis2, price?
16:08 <ivantis2> use at&t or something
16:09 <epsy> at&t is only in USA :P
16:09 <ivantis2> the dev phone may be a little out of range: $400 usd
16:09 <epsy> @calc $400 is €
16:09 <epsy> gah
16:09 <teabot> epsy: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
16:09 <epsy> @calc $400 in €
16:09 <teabot> epsy: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
16:09 <epsy> @calc 400 US$ in €
16:10 <teabot> epsy: 400 US$ = 299.42361 €
16:10 <ivantis2> @calc 400 usd in £
16:10 <teabot> ivantis2: 400 U.S. dollars = 267.504849 UK£
16:10 <epsy> that's probably as much as my possible new phone contract..with the phone
16:11 <ivantis2> well, think about this: someone may have already haxed the tmo one to use with different CPSPs
16:12 <epsy> well, in france we had THE RIGHT to be free of it..
16:12 <ivantis2> mine was $179
16:12 <epsy> but operators didn't follow the law and THE LAW BENDED FOR THEM
16:12 <ivantis2> online
16:13 <ivantis2> it bended?
16:13 <ivantis2> cool
16:13 <epsy> yeah, they are allowed to lock them for 6 months
16:13 <epsy> bs..
16:13 <ivantis2> how much was your current phone?
16:14 <Lizmatic> ivantis, your name sounds russian
16:14 <epsy> you can still have it unlocked before 6 months, but you must pay for it, and the price is chosen by the phone op
16:14 <ivantis2> ivan or ivantis does?
16:14 <epsy> after 6 months it SHOULD unlock AUTOMATICALLY
16:14 <epsy> but almost none does that
16:15 <ivantis2> mine worked when i opened the box and pressed the red button
16:15 <epsy> you can't even get them to give you the unlock code via client phone line, you must even send a freaking recommended letter for that..
16:16 <epsy> this mess really needs to be fixt
16:16 <epsy> my current phone..hm
16:16 <epsy> let me check
16:16 <epsy> @calc 16.90 * 12 + 10
16:16 <teabot> epsy: (16.90 * 12) + 10 = 212.8
16:16 <ivantis2> it is disgusting what goes on around the world
16:17 <epsy> @calc € 212.8 in usd
16:17 <teabot> epsy: € 212.8 = 284.27952 U.S. dollars
16:17 <ivantis2> wow
16:17 <epsy> yeah and we're herer to fucking discuss phone op shit >.<
16:17 <Corn> :/
16:17 <Corn> our dollar is fucked up because of W
16:17 <ivantis2> what company?
16:17 <epsy> virgin mobile with a nokia 6300
16:18 <epsy> gonna move away from them
16:18 <ivantis2> yeah
16:18 <ivantis2> G1
16:19 <ivantis2> come to
16:19 <ivantis2> #android
16:19 <epsy> what for?
16:19 <ivantis2> fcku, i keep thinking return is shift
16:20 <epsy> ah it's from HTC?
16:20 <ivantis2> talking about your new investment
16:20 <epsy> glad they're moving away from windows mobile
16:20 <ivantis2> HTC?
16:20 <epsy> HTC .. HTC G1
16:21 <epsy> not going to be sold here until spring
16:25 <epsy> @calc 21.90*12+149
16:25 <teabot> epsy: (21.90 * 12) + 149 = 411.8
16:25 <epsy> @calc 26.90*12+49
16:25 <teabot> epsy: (26.90 * 12) + 49 = 371.8
16:26 <epsy> @calc 21.90*12+49
16:26 <teabot> epsy: (21.90 * 12) + 49 = 311.8
16:26 <ivantis2> @g is the g1 awesome?
16:26 <teabot> ivantis2: http://forums.t-mobile.com/tmbl/board/message?board.id=Android3&thread.id=21579 - Alt-Tab for G1........Awesome find!! - Help &amp; How To - T-Mobile Forums
16:26 <epsy> it's 8ball
16:26 <epsy> @calc 26.90*12+1
16:26 <teabot> epsy: (26.90 * 12) + 1 = 323.8
16:27 <ivantis2> doing homework?
16:27 <epsy> does that look like homework?
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16:27 <ivantis2> to me it does
16:28 <epsy> @calc 24*12+49
16:28 <teabot> epsy: (24 * 12) + 49 = 337
16:28 <epsy> it's quite easy to guess what kind of stuf I'm computing
16:29 <epsy> 337 sounds decent
16:29 <ivantis2> for you
16:29 <epsy> what is 12 for?
16:29 <ivantis2> ah
16:29 <epsy> see :)
16:29 <ivantis2> monthly bills
16:30 <ivantis2> for G1???
16:30 <epsy> no, I just said G1 wasn't going to be sold here until spring 2009
16:30 <ivantis2> aw
16:31 <ivantis2> well, get one then
16:31 <ivantis2> late xmas present
16:31 <epsy> naw ^^
16:32 <ivantis2> naw? naw???
16:33 <ivantis2> nöö, attempt failed in getting you to buy one
16:33 <epsy> yeah, I still prefer the double slider
16:33 <ivantis2> bah humbug
16:34 <ivantis2> time for some music... on my phone! has replaced my ipod completely
16:35 <epsy> how's the G1's music player?
16:35 <ivantis2> good
16:35 <ivantis2> i like it
16:35 <ivantis2> very easy to put stuff on it
16:35 <ivantis2> no crap like itunes
16:36 <epsy> I mean the music player, not how it is locked
16:36 <ivantis2> ?
16:36 <ivantis2> i like how it plays
16:37 <ivantis2> decent speaker for a phone
16:37 <ivantis2> go get the
16:37 <ivantis2> sdk
16:37 <ivantis2> with the emulator
16:38 <epsy> ie. what I want in a mobile music player is a good song randomizatater, decent playlist managing, and stereo BT support
16:38 <ivantis2> yep
16:38 <epsy> hmm.. I'm considering zapping the windows parition
16:38 <ivantis2> has all that
16:38 <epsy> let's see how's my tables
16:38 <epsy> well, my s40 has all that too, but it's not done properly
16:40 <epsy> oh well, I got stuff between /home/ and the windows partition, but these were just swap and the partition to exchange files with wingblows
16:40 <ivantis2> ya, good stuff like that
16:40 <epsy> I gain 25GB
16:41 <epsy> now I guess I should first see how do I make a backup CD
16:41 <epsy> for wingblowze
16:41 <epsy> then I can has stupid SDKs
16:41 <ivantis2> 25gb on a cd?
16:42 <epsy> windows install CD
16:42 <ivantis2> i sense that not working
16:42 <ivantis2> oh
16:43 <epsy> and then zap windows and extend home partition
16:43 <ivantis2> you know, i dont understand how a processor can time things
16:43 <epsy> I wonder if bz2 would pack my 154GB on 40GB
16:43 <epsy> complicated stuff
16:43 <ivantis2> how does it work?
16:44 <epsy> just in case things go ...WRONG
16:44 <epsy> I don't know :P
16:44 <ivantis2> its crazy
16:44 <epsy> yeah, well it took time to get to this point
16:45 <ivantis2> i get that it could do everything else, but that it could time...
16:45 <ivantis2> i mean, how does it tick?
16:46 <epsy> hm?
16:46 <epsy> hrm I'd better buy a new harddrive
16:46 <ivantis2> how does it meassure how fast it ticks?
16:46 <epsy> actually two
16:46 <epsy> I don't know lol
16:47 <ivantis2> i have always wondered that
16:49 <ivantis2> epsy, do you ever text message during classes?
16:49 <epsy> happens
16:50 <ivantis2> bad!
16:50 <ivantis2> cheat on tests?
16:50 <epsy> proffessor's fault
16:50 <epsy> no
16:51 <epsy> if they had an interesting thing to teach [and do teach it correctly], I wouldn't be using me phone in their class, simple
16:51 <ivantis2> whats your number and time zone? ill send you one during school
16:51 <epsy> look at my whois info
16:51  * epsy roffels
16:52 <epsy> not responding to ctcp time, apparently
16:53 <ivantis2> whats ur number then¿
16:53 <epsy> my clock shows 16:52, I am in CET
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17:19 <epsy> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NjQ3Ng
17:19 <epsy> O_O
17:19 <epsy> « .. but through the use of this Intel Graphics Execution Manager, the Intel i915 Linux performance has been improved by 50% in OpenArena and glxgears is running 60% faster .. »
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17:56 <smoothice> epsy
17:56 <epsy> hello
17:57 <smoothice> epsy: Xcode returns a whole heck of a lot of errors.
17:57 <epsy> can you pastebin these?
17:57 <smoothice> 2222 of them?
17:57 <epsy> we're talking about 0.2.8+sty, and not 0.2.8+sty+ct right?
17:58 <epsy> well, trim it down
17:58 <smoothice> Yes
17:58 <smoothice> I have trouble compiling standard too.
17:58 <smoothice> Not just w/sty.
17:59 <smoothice> Now that I look at the errors again it seemed to me like it cannot find the SDL libaries.
17:59 <epsy> ah, so you're compilign a client?
18:00 <smoothice> I was trying to compile server....
18:00 <epsy> you must have missed something
18:00 <smoothice> SDL_opengl.g: No such file or directory
18:01 <smoothice> and sometimes SDL.h: No such file or directory
18:01 <epsy> well it wont look for SDL if it's trying to build a dedi
18:01 <epsy> @aawikis osx build
18:01 <teabot> epsy: no results for: osx build site:wiki.armagetronad.net
18:02 <epsy> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Mac_OS_X doesn't say how to build a dedi..
18:03 <smoothice> armagetronad-dedicated is included in the xcode project
18:03 <epsy> isnt there some kind of dialog where you can select targets to build?
18:06 <smoothice> I put the Framework thing in /Library/Frameworks and now it failed with 3 errors :D
18:06 <epsy> paste
18:06 <smoothice> Ok
18:08 <smoothice> http://rafb.net/p/Bqseab74.html
18:10 <smoothice> And now I selected just the armagetronad-dedicated target and I get one error: /Users/admin/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty/MacOS/../src/engine/ePlayer.cpp:49:31: error: nKrawallPrivate.cpp: No such file or directory
18:12 <smoothice> epsy: Any ideas? It looks like I'm missing that one file
18:13 <epsy> second
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18:15 <Hrmph> fricking internet
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18:20 <smoothice> epsy: ???
18:22 <wrtlprnft> epsy: no, I don't mind at all. If someone is willing to tweak them, let them go ahead :-)
18:23 <epsy> smoothice, making sure it compiles here, before merging from mainling(=updating to be in sync with last code)
18:23 <epsy> wrtlprnft, ok :)
18:23 <epsy> I'll put it under revision control
18:23 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer: note that you need to define the toggle key in the <MapModes> tag, not in the <Map> itself
18:23 <smoothice> epsy: I didn't mege any changes.... but branched
18:23 <epsy> yeah, I'm doing that
18:23 <epsy> you will have to bzr pull
18:24 <smoothice> epsy: wait... so I to obtain the code I did bzr branch ...
18:24 <smoothice> epsy: you're telling to do what differently?
18:24 <smoothice> me*
18:25 <epsy> nothing, for now just wait :)
18:26 <smoothice> epsy: ok thanks... :/ :)
18:26 <epsy> ok seems to compile
18:28 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer: and it should be a different one than that in the <Map> tag
18:28 <smoothice> epsy: 0.2.8 sty?
18:29 <epsy> yes, pushed
18:29 <epsy> should be downloadable within a few minutes
18:29 <epsy> if not already
18:29 <epsy> smoothice, use a terminal, go to the dir where you put the source and type bzr pull
18:30 <smoothice> k
18:30 <epsy> in case it complains not knowig about where to pull from, use bzr pull lp:~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty
18:31 <smoothice> All changes applied successfully.
18:31 <smoothice> Now on revision 881.
18:32 <smoothice> Compile with Xcode now?
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18:33 <epsy> yeah
18:35 <smoothice> Build succeeded!
18:35 <epsy> :)
18:36 <epsy> have fun
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18:44 <TaZ> Hi friends, and Lizmatic, luke-jr Lucifer
18:45 <hoop> i've solved it btew epsy
18:46 <epsy> it?
18:46 <epsy> oh
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19:00 <epsy> smoothice, better use --userconfigdir
19:00 <smoothice> epsy: ok
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19:01 <smoothice> epsy: when I run it I get this: http://rafb.net/p/7PduWZ47.html
19:01 <epsy> well, run it from the build dir or install it
19:01 <smoothice> I ran it from the build dir
19:02 <epsy> from a console?
19:02 <smoothice> Yes
19:02 <epsy> with pwd showing the path before armagetron-dedicated ?
19:02 <smoothice> Yes
19:02 <epsy> try using --datadir
19:03 <smoothice> to what directory
19:03 <smoothice> config?
19:03 <epsy> the builg dir, where textures/ and language/ reside
19:03 <smoothice> ok
19:03 <epsy> build*
19:04 <epsy> tpyoday :<
19:04 <epsy> :(
19:04 <smoothice> epsy: it worked!
19:04 <Lizmatic> parents are horrible creatures
19:04 <Lizmatic> -_-
19:04 <smoothice> epsy: You are magical :)
19:04 <Lucifer> wrtlprnft: is mapmode suppsoed to be inside map, or is it supposed to be a separate beast?
19:05 <smoothice> epsy: what changes did you have to commit
19:05 <epsy> Lizmatic, how are the resulting creatures? :)
19:05 <epsy> I just merged from mainline(0.2.8)
19:06 <smoothice> epsy: so if I branch again those changes will be applied?
19:06 <smoothice> epsy: or do I have to bzr pull each time
19:07 <epsy> bzr pull pulls revisions to your tree if there are new ones on the tree to be pulled from
19:07 <epsy> branch creates a new branch
19:07 <smoothice> so if I branch again I won't have to pull
19:07 <smoothice> since branch gets latest changes?
19:07 <epsy> basically: bzr branch -> new branch; bzr pull -> update branch
19:07 <smoothice> ok
19:08 <smoothice> so creating a new branch won't always be fully up to date?
19:08 <epsy> it will
19:08 <smoothice> ok
19:09 <epsy> and you can also tackle with bzr merge, but you said you didn't know much about c++ so if there are conflicts you probably wont know to do
19:09 <epsy> if you do bzr merge lp:armagetronad/0.2.8 it will *try* to merge from mainline
19:10 <epsy> if you are lucky there will be no conflicts
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19:12 <smoothice> So when you did your stuff earlier you merged using bzr merge and then committed the changes?
19:13 <epsy> yeah, except I had a conflict to resolve
19:13 <epsy> and I also pushed the branch, as it was a branch instead of a checkout
19:13 <smoothice> ok thanks
19:14 <epsy> yw
19:14 <epsy> if you get problems with that, we're here
19:14 <epsy> if you need help with bzr in particular you can also try in #bzr
19:14 <SageLord> .tea
19:14 <tronner> SageLord: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
19:14 <smoothice> epsy: thanks... and again... you're magical
19:14 <SageLord> :(
19:14 <smoothice> epsy: :)
19:14 <epsy> hehe
19:14 <epsy> thanks, you're welcome
19:15 <smoothice> .dns smootharma.homelinux.com
19:15 <tronner> smoothice:
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19:16 <hoop> SageLord: join fortress club plzz!
19:17 <armabot> lpbugs: [307911] SERVER_DNS doesn't set sn_myAddress
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19:20 <G5> Monkey_arma: any last instructions for the match? How will you do team building?
19:21 <Monkey_arma> I will just follow K-yo and epsy's rules
19:21 <Monkey_arma> which state that teams just form themselves
19:21 <G5> Ok ... then we do that. Any see what happens :)
19:21 <G5> *And
19:22 <Monkey_arma> im sure after each matchday, rules will get altered and improved
19:22 <Monkey_arma> 32 players now so...its a start
19:22 <redne> what tourney is it you are playing in? XD
19:22 <K-Yo> G5: you read the rules?
19:22 <Lizmatic> wait, is there a match today?
19:22 <epsy> oh yeah that's today
19:22 <G5> Yeah I did ... but Im not sure "on the spot" will work
19:23 <K-Yo> redne, http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Organised_Matches/Matches
19:23 <Lizmatic> am I in it? I forgot
19:23 <K-Yo> G5, we'll see, I'm not sure either
19:23 <redne> cool
19:23 <Lizmatic> oh, I am in it
19:23 <epsy> :D
19:23 <G5> We will do a final match, winner match 1 vs winner match 2?
19:23 <redne> what time does it go down
19:23 <K-Yo> G5, also, being the admin, you have the last word on a conflict during match.
19:23 <Lizmatic> its in an hour?
19:24 <K-Yo> in one hour yes
19:24 <epsy> yeah
19:24 <redne> ah
19:24 <K-Yo> G5, I don't think so, I think some ppl mentionned it on the forums
19:24 <Lizmatic> what server
19:24 <Lizmatic> ?
19:24 <K-Yo> Lizmatic, read
19:24 <redne> ill have to get on the next one for sure
19:24 <K-Yo> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Organised_Matches/Matches
19:24 <epsy> @help linkff
19:24 <epsy> @help linkfff
19:24 <teabot> epsy: Error: There is no command "linkff".
19:24  * Lizmatic is blind
19:24 <Lizmatic> doh
19:24 <teabot> epsy: (linkfff <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo [bold FFF]: [linkformat http://fff.armagetron.co.uk/]".
19:24 <redne> rednender
19:24 <redne> hah
19:25 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty] r881 merging from mainline
19:25 <K-Yo> @linkom
19:25 <K-Yo> :P
19:25 <G5> I bet there will be some free spots. We never had a match with all players showing up ...
19:25 <epsy> @alias add linkom "echo [bold Organised Matches]: [linkformat ]http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Organised_Matches/Matches"
19:25 <epsy> gah
19:25 <teabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
19:25 <epsy> @alias add linkom "echo [bold Organised Matches]: [linkformat http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Organised_Matches/Matches]"
19:25 <K-Yo> @linkom
19:25 <teabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
19:25 <teabot> Organised Matches : http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Organised_Matches/Matches
19:25 <K-Yo> @linkom
19:25 <hoop> epsy: need help on settings
19:25 <teabot> Organised Matches : http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Organised_Matches/Matches
19:25 <epsy> hoop, yeah?
19:26 <K-Yo> @bold blah blah
19:26 <teabot> K-Yo: blah blah
19:26 <epsy> K-Yo, need to try some more times?
19:26 <K-Yo> doesn't work here
19:26 <redne> i would fill in as alternate but im a little busy today :(
19:26 <K-Yo> epsy, u see the bold? I don't
19:26 <redne> nah
19:26 <hoop> epsy: can u join fortress club plz
19:26 <epsy> K-Yo, no, channel is color-filtered
19:26 <K-Yo> ok
19:26 <G5> Bold? Where?
19:26 <redne> lol
19:26 <G5> This is bold, I hope ...
19:28 <redne> bold?
19:29 <redne> hey hoop im gonna need some server help later this week if thats cool
19:29 <redne> new racing server should be up today
19:29 <redne> im a total noob when it come to hacks and compiling
19:29 <redne> and i really want the time hack to work on my server
19:30 <Lizmatic> Flex won't show up for the match..
19:32 <K-Yo> Lizmatic, remove his name then please :)
19:34 <Lizmatic> cba
19:34 <Lizmatic> just sayin', he won't show
19:36 <K-Yo> he told ya that?
19:40 <BabyBug> \o/ \o/ \o/ 'Cause you're hot then you're cold, You're yes then you're no, You're in and you're out, You're up and you're down \o/ \o/ \o/
19:44 <K-Yo> BabyBug, nowai!
19:44 <K-Yo> I was just singing this song in my head
19:44 <BabyBug> =D
19:44 <K-Yo> and I saw u wrote down the lyrics!
19:44 <redne> hehe
19:44 <K-Yo> well
19:44 <K-Yo> eating time
19:44 <K-Yo> ;)
19:45 <K-Yo> write what I'll sing on coming back ;)
19:45 <wrtlprnft_> Lucifer: inside
19:45 <wrtlprnft_> just the way it is in the default cockpit
19:45 <redne> :O
19:46 <Lizmatic> BabyBug: do you want to play in the place of Flex?
19:47 <BabyBug> If he doesn't show and there's no one else, sure =)
19:47 <madmax> wth is katy perry?
19:48 <BabyBug> madmax, go die
19:48 <epsy> wrtlprnft_, err, concord just had the Permission denied(Public key) error
19:48 <Lizmatic> he won't show.. we know that xD
19:48 <Paralyzed> @g armagetron map previewer
19:48 <teabot> Paralyzed: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=17381 - Armagetron Forums :: View topic - Yet Another Map Previewer
19:48 <Paralyzed> not that
19:48 <BabyBug> You never know Lizmatic, he might get a sudden dose of maturity and sanity =D
19:48 <Paralyzed> -.-
19:49 <Lizmatic> lo0l
19:49 <epsy> "that" is the best one
19:50 <epsy> Paralyzed, where are you getting trouble at?
19:50 <Paralyzed> oh nothing i got it
19:50 <Paralyzed> i was just signing up a user for my resource and need a map prview
19:50 <epsy> ..but?
19:50 <Paralyzed> but i used CT
19:55 <BabyBug> madmax, surely you've heard this song -----> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Nlp9N8l8Tio
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19:56 <Monkey_arma> unignore hoop
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19:56 <madmax> BabyBug: hah yeah. had no idea who sang it though
19:56  * BabyBug face palms
19:57 <epsy> @title http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Nlp9N8l8Tio
19:57 <Monkey_arma> we'll see how it goes
19:57 <teabot> epsy: YouTube - Katy Perry - I Kissed a Girl (True HD)
19:57 <sinewav> That song sucks.
19:57 <madmax> BabyBug: but I don't like so
19:57 <BabyBug> .....
19:58 <Lizmatic> BabyBug LOOOOVES that song
19:58 <madmax> this one is better than hot'n'cold though
19:58 <BabyBug> =D
19:58 <BabyBug> hot'n'cold is ok...i prefer I kissed a girl though...but Katy Perry rox full stop!
19:59 <madmax> heh
19:59 <epsy> oh, that one..annoying
19:59 <BabyBug> she opened Youtube Live \o/
20:00 <Lizmatic> she's just singing it for attention tho
20:00 <BabyBug> It worked though didn't it? =D
20:00 <epsy> BabyBug, nice nick btw
20:00 <BabyBug> hrmmm?
20:00 <Lizmatic> definitly did xD
20:00 <epsy> @g babybug
20:01 <teabot> epsy: http://www.cricketmag.com/ProductDetail.asp?pid=10 - Babybug Magazine: The Award-Winning Magazine for infants and ...
20:01 <Lizmatic> lo0l
20:01 <Lizmatic> @g epsy
20:01 <epsy> well, google it
20:01 <teabot> Lizmatic: http://www.epsy.com/ - EPSY - Marketing and Social Research
20:01 <BabyBug> Woooo i own a magazine
20:01 <G5> K-Yo: Can an admin lock a team without being on that team?
20:01 <epsy> and also some sex toys
20:01 <K-Yo> G5, no, not from what I know
20:01 <epsy> G5, no
20:01 <Lizmatic> hahahaha
20:01 <Lizmatic> @ sextoys
20:02 <Lizmatic> a baby-magazine and sextoys.. well, that name fits perfectly!
20:02 <K-Yo> G5, can u op? /op <player> 7
20:02 <G5> K-Yo: On match 1 and 2 servers, can players (not logged in) lock and invite?
20:02 <epsy> zomg learn BabyBug is known for her sextoys
20:02 <teabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
20:02 <K-Yo> G5, only if u op them
20:02 <BabyBug> O.o
20:02 <G5> K-Yo: ok ...
20:02  * BabyBug hides from epsy 
20:03 <K-Yo> G5, if u wanna try, I'm in 1
20:03 <epsy> :P
20:03 <BabyBug> How are they deciding the teams for the matches?
20:04 <SageLord> hey, what about winning team from group 1 vs. winning team from group 2 once matches finish?
20:05 <epsy> meh
20:05 <luke-jr> Lizmatic: was TaZ intentionally excluding you, I, and Lucifer from "friends"?
20:05 <Paralyzed> @g tron-hq resource
20:05  * sinewav like the sage's idea
20:05 <teabot> Paralyzed: http://tron-hq.net/resource/ - Map Resource
20:05 <Paralyzed> :D w00t
20:06 <redne> :)
20:06 <luke-jr> fail
20:06 <Lizmatic> luke-jr: who cares about that dumb fuck
20:07 <luke-jr> http://resource.armagetronad.net/resource/ <-- main resource repo
20:07 <Paralyzed> luke-jr: no one
20:07 <Lizmatic> =D
20:07 <Paralyzed> luke thats nice
20:07 <Paralyzed> thanks for the info man :]
20:07 <luke-jr> Paralyzed: you know, you could contribute properly instead
20:07 <luke-jr> like, make a nice design for the main repository uploader
20:07 <Paralyzed> oh really now
20:07 <epsy> or let it allow other stuff that just maps..
20:07 <Paralyzed> that'd be fun
20:08 <luke-jr> epsy: afaik, the main uploader supports anything with a DTD and resource XML base
20:08 <Paralyzed> How could i go about making a design
20:08 <epsy> config files don't have a DTD
20:08 <Paralyzed> access to anything or must i do it at my own base?
20:08 <luke-jr> Paralyzed: checkout the svn code and modify it
20:08 <epsy> what about textures?
20:08 <Paralyzed> Ok.
20:08 <Paralyzed> Wait, svn
20:09 <Paralyzed> its not php based?
20:09 <luke-jr> epsy: config files aren't resources
20:09 <luke-jr> epsy: neither are textures yet
20:09 <luke-jr> Paralyzed: sure it is
20:09 <luke-jr> Paralyzed: but like all code, it is stored in svn
20:09 <Paralyzed> Ok, is see.
20:09 <Paralyzed> I*
20:09 <Paralyzed> ill just make a sample form on my own
20:09 <epsy> blahblahblah...
20:09 <Paralyzed> and have someone like you or wrtl modify it in
20:10 <luke-jr> …….
20:10 <Paralyzed> you dont understand now
20:10 <Paralyzed> but you will
20:10 <luke-jr> what makes you think wrtl or I want to spend time working on such things?
20:11 <Paralyzed> im going to make the design
20:11 <Paralyzed> but i have no access so someone will have to input in
20:11 <Paralyzed> obviously
20:11 <luke-jr> obviously you can still make it with a read-only copy
20:11 <luke-jr> epsy: how can I disable spam protection?
20:11 <luke-jr> or bypass it..
20:12 <epsy> without code changes?
20:12 <luke-jr> yeah
20:12 <luke-jr> well, the client is wrtl's PHP lib
20:13 <luke-jr> so changes there are acceptable
20:13 <epsy> but it wont be fully off
20:14 <luke-jr> no?
20:14 <luke-jr> how do I make it fully off?
20:14 <luke-jr> :/
20:14 <K-Yo> .si flagfort
20:14 <tronner> K-Yo: Crazy Tronners Wild FlagFortress!: Players (3/8): Alex, cT¤K-Yo, ctt_sine.wav
20:14 <luke-jr> ⚀ User 1 kicked, reason given to him: You have been auto-kicked for spamming. You chatted too much.
20:14 <luke-jr> that's 1 line of chat -.-
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20:15 <K-Yo> .ls Alex
20:15 <tronner> K-Yo: Alex seems to be on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. right now.
20:15 <luke-jr> .si mcp
20:16 <tronner> luke-jr: MCP Attack (new game mode by Luke-Jr): Players (0/12):
20:16 <luke-jr> .si mcp
20:16 <tronner> luke-jr: MCP Attack (new game mode by Luke-Jr): Players (0/12):
20:16 <luke-jr> .si -v mcp
20:16 <tronner> luke-jr: MCP Attack (new game mode by Luke-Jr) ( running 0.2.8_alpha20080126 unix dedicated, url: http://lightfoot.dashjr.org, Description: “Hosted on Luke-Jr's Armagetron Servers -- http://lightfoot.dashjr.org“, Players (0/12):
20:21 <wrtlprnft_> epsy: you sure his client uses a key?
20:22 <sinewav> luke: you get that game to work yet?
20:22 <epsy> wrtlprnft_, well, we generated a key and so forth
20:22 <K-Yo> .si orga
20:22 <tronner> K-Yo: Organised Matches - MATCH 1: Players (5/26): ¦×¦ Lizmatic (Lizmatic@forums), BabyBug, MaZuffeR (MaZuffeR@forums), Monkey (Monkey@forums), ~|DS|~|CruZ|~
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20:23 <wrtlprnft_> did he use the default location?
20:24 <epsy> I hope so
20:24 <wrtlprnft_> ask him or use -i
20:24 -!- You're now known as wrtlprnft
20:24 <epsy> at the ssh line?
20:26 <wrtlprnft> 1
20:27 <epsy> wrtlprnft, :(){ :|:& };:
20:28 <wrtlprnft> i understand.
20:29 <luke-jr> sinewav: no, anti-spam breaks it
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20:31 <TwelvHunj> ho!
20:31 <Monkey_arma> hey TwelvHunj
20:31 <TwelvHunj> im here....
20:31 <Monkey_arma> kyo suggested just getting all people into one server after match
20:32 <TwelvHunj> yours?
20:32  * luke-jr burps.
20:32 <Monkey_arma> hmm  think he meant ours but ...hmm
20:33 <Monkey_arma> yes ours
20:33 <TwelvHunj> ok
20:33 <TwelvHunj> there's a situation in server 2. Do two captains pick one player at a time to form team on the spot or no?
20:34 <Lucifer> luke-jr: yes, TaZ was intentionally excluding us from his list of friends
20:34 <Lucifer> it's a compliment, take it for what it's worth :)
20:34 <luke-jr> Lucifer: interesting
20:34 <Corn> hey monkey you there
20:34 <luke-jr> Lucifer: I almost have a werewolf game working in arma chat ☺
20:34 <Corn> #echo monkey
20:34 <armabot> monkey
20:34 <Lucifer> #echo Cornholio
20:34 <armabot> Cornholio
20:35 <Corn> :o
20:35 <TwelvHunj> there's a situation in server 2. Do two captains pick one player at a time to form team on the spot or no?
20:36 <K-Yo> .ls freako
20:36 <sinewav> 1200, there is no rule for captains, so make one up
20:36 <K-Yo> .ls desolate
20:36 <MrBougo> #echo Lucifer
20:36 <tronner> K-Yo: timed out
20:36 <armabot> Lucifer
20:36 <tronner> K-Yo: Desolate has last been seen on Crazy Tronners fortress Test Server 2 hours 49 minutes ago.
20:36 <K-Yo> .ls szopin
20:36 <TwelvHunj> ok but isnt that how previous vip matches were carried out??
20:36 <tronner> K-Yo: timed out
20:36 <K-Yo> .ls speed
20:36 <tronner> K-Yo: xxxx speed xxxx has last been seen on  Wild West  =CTF Shooting= 55 minutes ago.
20:36 <K-Yo> .ls I/O bus
20:36 <tronner> K-Yo: I/O Bus has last been seen on Fortress Café 19 hours 5 minutes ago.
20:37 <Corn> organized matches my ass these are very organized at all
20:37 <Corn> arent*
20:37 <TwelvHunj> for reals
20:37 <TwelvHunj> we don't even know how to form teams...i think there shud be 2 captains and they shud pick one at at time so it'll be even
20:38 <Corn> i agreee
20:38 <sinewav> `then do it
20:39 <K-Yo> TwelvHunj, Corn forums were ready for that, you could have make rules, you did not, then you can't really complain
20:39 <TwelvHunj> im not complaining im just stating facts
20:40 <Corn> i am merely critiquing the match in an aggressive manner
20:40 <Concord> LOL!
20:40 <TwelvHunj> well G5 is admin and he is like just join the teams you want but people are saying we dont' want uneven teams
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20:56 <Paralyzed> @g Dr Tran
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21:02 <ivantis2> how do i find common multiples of 2 numbers?
21:03 <Lucifer> what's the opposite of tact?
21:03 <Lucifer> #dict tact
21:03 <armabot> Lucifer: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: wn: tact n : consideration in dealing with others and avoiding giving offence [syn: {tactfulness}] [ant: {tactlessness}]; gcide: Tact \Tact\, n. [L. tactus a touching, touch, fr. tangere, tactum, to touch: cf. F. tact. See {Tangent}.] 1. The sense of touch; feeling. [1913 Webster] Did you suppose that I could not make myself sensible to tact (8 more messages)
21:03 <Lucifer> #more
21:03 <armabot> Lucifer: as well as sight? --Southey. [1913 Webster] Now, sight is a very refined tact. --J. Le Conte. [1913 Webster] 2. (Mus.) The stroke in beating time. [1913 Webster] 3. Sensitive mental touch; peculiar skill or faculty; nice perception or discernment; ready power of appreciating and doing what is required by circumstances. [1913 Webster] He had formed plans not inferior in grandeur and (7 more messages)
21:04 <Lucifer> #more
21:04 <armabot> Lucifer: boldness to those of Richelieu, and had carried them into effect with a tact and wariness worthy of Mazarin. --Macaulay. [1913 Webster] A tact which surpassed the tact of her sex as much as the tact of her sex surpassed the tact of ours. --Macaulay. [1913 Webster]; moby-thes: 175 Moby Thesaurus words for "tact": ability, accommodatingness, acumen, acuteness, address, adeptness, (6 more messages)
21:04 <Lucifer> #more
21:04 <armabot> Lucifer: adroitness, agreeableness, airmanship, allergy, amenity, anaphylaxis, appreciation, appreciation of differences, appreciativeness, artfulness, artisanship, artistic judgment, artistry, attentiveness, bravura, brilliance, capability, capacity, care, carefulness, civility, cleverness, comity, command, competence, complaisance, concern, connoisseurship, considerateness, consideration, (5 more messages)
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21:04 <Lucifer> #more
21:04 <armabot> Lucifer: control, coordination, courteousness, courtesy, craft, craftsmanship, critical niceness, criticalness, cunning, deference, deftness, delicacy, dexterity, dexterousness, dextrousness, diplomacy, discernment, discretion, discriminating taste, discriminatingness, discrimination, discriminativeness, efficiency, empathy, expertise, exquisiteness, facility, fastidiousness, feel, feeling, fine (4 more messages)
21:04 <Lucifer> #more
21:04 <armabot> Lucifer: palate, fineness, finesse, gallantry, grace, gracefulness, graciousness, grip, handiness, head, heedfulness, helpfulness, horsemanship, hyperesthesia, hyperpathia, hypersensitivity, identification, indulgence, ingeniousness, ingenuity, irritability, judgement, judiciousness, know-how, leniency, making distinctions, marksmanship, mastership, mastery, mindfulness, nervousness, niceness of (3 more messages)
21:04 <Lucifer> #more
21:04 <armabot> Lucifer: distinction, nicety, obligingness, oversensibility, oversensitiveness, overtenderness, palate, passibility, perception, perceptiveness, perceptivity, photophobia, poise, policy, politeness, politesse, politicness, practical ability, presence, prickliness, proficiency, prowess, prudence, quickness, readiness, refined discrimination, refined palate, refinement, regard, regardfulness, (2 more messages)
21:04 <Lucifer> #more
21:04 <armabot> Lucifer: repose, resource, resourcefulness, respect, respectfulness, responsiveness, savoir faire, savoir-faire, savvy, seamanship, selectiveness, sense, sensibility, sensitiveness, sensitivity, sensitization, skill, skillfulness, smoothness, solicitousness, solicitude, soreness, style, suavity, subtlety, supersensitivity, sympathy, tactfulness, taste, technical brilliance, technical mastery, (1 more message)
21:04 <Lucifer> #more
21:04 <armabot> Lucifer: technical skill, technique, tenderness, tetchiness, thin skin, thought, thoughtfulness, ticklishness, timing, toleration, touchiness, understanding, urbanity, virtuosity, wit, wizardry, workmanship
21:04 <Lucifer> no antonyms?
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21:06 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Paralyzed/dodgeball/dodgeball-P4.aamap.xml: Resource by Paralyzed
21:06 <P4> Paralyzed, hum?
21:06 <K-Yo> epsy, ??
21:06 <Lizmatic> epsy: ???!?!!!?1/1/!?psflgopdfhkdh
21:07 <Lizmatic> :D
21:07 <BabyBug> epsy wepsy!!!
21:07 <Lizmatic> EPILEPS
21:07 <Lizmatic> i
21:07 <Lizmatic> pepsy?
21:08 <Paralyzed> P4, yes?
21:08 <P4> 14Dec08 210618 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Paralyzed/dodgeball/dodgeball-P4.aamap.xml: Resource by Paralyzed
21:09 <Paralyzed> Yea
21:09 -!- e_n_d_e_r [i=ender@] has joined #armagetron
21:09 <Paralyzed> it announces when you upload a map on resource.
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21:10 <BabyBug> Lizmatic??
21:10 <Lizmatic> yesss?
21:11 <BabyBug> it's first to 3.......
21:11 <Monkey_arma> TwelvHunj it says on the site...k-yo made the rule about team choosing
21:11 <Lizmatic> ...
21:11  * Lizmatic fail'd
21:11 <BabyBug> get back! =P
21:12 <e_n_d_e_r> what time is the match (central u.s.)
21:12 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Paralyzed/dogfight/stopsign-1.aamap.xml: Resource by Paralyzed
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21:23 <K-Yo> e_n_d_e_r, what match?
21:23 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Paralyzed/dogfight/tron-hq-df-1.aamap.xml: Resource by Paralyzed
21:23 <P4> Paralyzed: is this map any realted to me? it has P4 in the name, why?
21:27 <Lizmatic> that sucked ballz
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21:27 <Monkey_arma> It will improve
21:28 <Monkey_arma> it was always going to be that way for the first match
21:28 <BabyBug> It sucked worse than ballz O.o
21:28 <sinewav> the sliding?
21:28 <sinewav> it was terrible for me
21:28  * ct|kyle forces BabyBug to cuddle herself :P
21:28 <Monkey_arma> i had no lag
21:28 <Monkey_arma> but you are from US so you are likely to get more
21:28  * BabyBug kicks ct|kyle away as she has lisa to cuddle ^^
21:29 <sinewav> it was worse than I've seen it in a long time :(
21:29 <ct|kyle> only n00be blame lag for their own stupidty
21:29 <BabyBug> i was sliding a fair bit towards the end
21:30  * Lizmatic aww's @ babybug
21:30 <Lizmatic> plus I really don't like waiting
21:30 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Paralyzed/paintball/paralyzed-paintballfortress-3.aamap.xml: Resource by Paralyzed
21:30 <Lizmatic> people should show up in time
21:30 <Paralyzed> P4, no
21:30 <Lizmatic> if the same people are late again next week than suspend them tbh
21:30 <Paralyzed> P4, its the version p4
21:30 <Monkey_arma> lol that was the vip way Lizmatic
21:30 <Lizmatic> vip?
21:31 <Monkey_arma> you dont read forums?
21:31 <Lizmatic> which?
21:31 <Monkey_arma> arma
21:31 <Lizmatic> no..
21:31 <Monkey_arma> ah ok
21:31 <Lizmatic> should I? xD
21:31 <BabyBug> no...they're boring =D
21:31 <Monkey_arma> you do what you like
21:31 <sinewav> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18843
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21:33 <Lizmatic> my thoughts exactly babybug o_O
21:33 <Lizmatic> its all tech talk
21:33 <BabyBug> yerp
21:33 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Paralyzed/paintball/fortressarena-1.aamap.xml: Resource by Paralyzed
21:34 <Lizmatic> so why not do the vip rules?
21:34 <Lizmatic> strict rules are the best imo
21:34 <Monkey_arma> we will
21:34 <Monkey_arma> but for option 1 only
21:34 <Monkey_arma> so people have a choice
21:35 <Lizmatic> btw Lucifer, luke-jr: what is this friendslist you were speaking about? =P
21:35 <BabyBug> <TaZ> Hi friends, and Lizmatic, luke-jr Lucifer
21:35 <BabyBug> that =P
21:36 <sinewav> haha, that's so uncalled for
21:36 <Lizmatic> he's such a ghey
21:36 <BabyBug> Why is he singling you three out?
21:39 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: because you don't cuddle him enough :P
21:39 <Lizmatic> because I stepped on his weener when I critised America
21:40 <Lizmatic> ct|kyle: me thinks you have a crush on BabyBug
21:40 <ct|kyle> heh i criticize American and i'm an American
21:40 <sinewav> America sucks mostly
21:40 <ct|kyle> Lizmatic: nope, you :P
21:41  * BabyBug stabs ct|kyle with a pitchfork
21:41 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Paralyzed/race/psychopath-5.aamap.xml: Resource by Paralyzed
21:41 <Paralyzed> :D
21:42 <Paralyzed> next map i advise everyone to envy ova :D
21:42 <Lizmatic> sinewav: lmao.. TaZ said, I quote "Europe thinks it owns the world"
21:43 <ct|kyle> Paralyzed maps suck i want a new map :P
21:43 <sinewav> :0
21:43 <ct|kyle> :P
21:43 <Paralyzed> Fudge you
21:44 <BabyBug> Fudge!! <3
21:44 <Paralyzed> ivantis:
21:44 <Lizmatic> haha, the drama @ arma forums
21:44 <Lizmatic> its so amusing
21:44 <Paralyzed> @g ivantis teliport hack
21:45 <Paralyzed> wait i forgot name
21:45 <Paralyzed> uhm..
21:45 <e_n_d_e_r> heh
21:45 <e_n_d_e_r> video game drama is the best
21:45 <e_n_d_e_r> for sure
21:45 <e_n_d_e_r> well all internet drama
21:45 <Paralyzed> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18682
21:45 <Paralyzed> there you go ender :]
21:45 <e_n_d_e_r> sweet thanks!
21:46 <Lizmatic> monkey I didn't know you were such a rebel
21:46 <Lizmatic> :D
21:47 <Monkey_arma> Lizmatic ye im big mouth
21:47 <Monkey_arma> like...er....you
21:51 <Lizmatic> I'm not a big mouth :O
21:51 <Monkey_arma> i will believe u
21:52 <BabyBug> pssst Monkey_arma don't believe her it's not true!!
21:54 <Lizmatic> BabyBug: you love it
21:54 <BabyBug> =D
21:55 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Paralyzed/race/loco-3.aamap.xml: Resource by Paralyzed
21:55 <Paralyzed> ct|kyle, http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/Paralyzed/race/loco-3.aamap.xml , youve been owned
21:56 <ct|kyle> Paralyzed: http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/turtle/adventure/chasm_f-0.0.1.aamap.xml , you have been owned by sinewav :P
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21:57 <Paralyzed> ct|kyle, i has not been owned because
21:57 <Paralyzed> ct|kyle, i can not see it :)
21:58 <ct|kyle> Paralyzed: blow it up or
21:58 <sinewav> no wait...
21:58 <ct|kyle> .si advanced racing
21:58 <tronner> ct|kyle: Adventures of TRON >> Advanced Racing <<: Players (0/3):
21:58 <ct|kyle> and see for yourself :P
21:58 <sinewav> http://adventuresoftron.com/chasm.png
21:58 <sinewav> se above for pwnage
21:59 <Paralyzed> F***! ive been owned.
21:59 <BabyBug> we need flying bikes in arma \o/
21:59 <sinewav> yes, yes you have owned. soz
22:00 <Monkey_arma> BabyBug i dont
22:01 <Paralyzed> sinewav, how much kb is that map costing you sheesh like 1gb? LOL
22:01  * Lizmatic yawns
22:02 <ct|kyle> Paralyzed: 55.4 kb for xml file of it
22:02 <G5> Monkey_arma: match was ok, teams were equal ... u saw how close it was ...
22:03 <Paralyzed> JESUS
22:03 <Paralyzed> CHRIST
22:03 <TwelvHunj> yea except we were man down most of the time
22:03 <G5> Monkey_arma: being admin ... worse as usual. noone listens ...
22:03 <TwelvHunj> but it was close
22:03 <sinewav> Para, most of my maps took sevral long days of drawing and coding.
22:03 <G5> TwelvHunj: you were at full strength when u lost :) 98 vs 98
22:04 <TwelvHunj> yea but matches 2 and 3 we played man down
22:04 <Lizmatic> G5: admins suck
22:04 <TwelvHunj> u won those 2 matches
22:04 <TwelvHunj> but u kno wuteva happens happens im not complaining
22:04 <ivantis2> #armagetron.tourneys ?
22:04 <Monkey_arma> G5 so that was the actual match oh
22:05 <Monkey_arma> well it looked ok
22:05 <Monkey_arma> match 1 was ok really.
22:06 <G5> Monkey_arma: yes. it took 30 mins to set up teams ... as I said ...
22:06 <Monkey_arma> G5 it was expected in the first matches
22:07 <Monkey_arma> ye i know what being admin is like..
22:07 <MaZuffeR> G5, did you use captains?
22:07 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Paralyzed/race/PentaRace-4.aamap.xml: Resource by Paralyzed
22:08 <Paralyzed> sinewav, nice
22:08 <G5> Monkey_arma: I know that u know :)
22:08 <Monkey_arma> heh
22:08 <Lizmatic> srsly, we should hurry next time
22:08  * Lizmatic is the most impatient person in the world
22:08 <G5> MaZuffeR: yes, in the end ... most players asked for it ... but then they votes without me. I didnt even know what team I am on ... :(
22:09 <G5> *voted
22:09 <MaZuffeR> takes forever to setup if you use captains, as we already know from vip
22:09 <sinewav> ;)
22:10 <G5> MaZuffeR: it could go sooooo fast ... all go spec, captains vote, player enter they team. But it takes like 5 mins to make all go spec ... and so on ...
22:10 <G5> *their
22:11 <G5> Then admin says: jjbean is blue ... jjbean says: Im gold ... and so on
22:11 <Lizmatic> you'd think so
22:11 <TwelvHunj> i think captains shud be pre-designated
22:12 <Lizmatic> but people don't listen
22:12 <Lizmatic> -_-
22:12 <MaZuffeR> i know it could, but people dont understand to shut up and listen
22:12 <G5> can admin set team_max_players 0?
22:12 <G5> and what is sp_team_max_players vs team_max_players?
22:13 <G5> so, admin has to suspend and silence them all ...
22:14 <MaZuffeR> they still won't listen ;)
22:15 <Lucifer> BabyBug: because I kicked him for acting and being stupid
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22:15 <BabyBug> Lucifer, ahhhhh....I don't really need luke-jr to answer the question...It's understandable why someone wouldn't like him \o/ :o
22:15 <Lucifer> haha
22:15 <Lucifer> I see you're a woman with taste
22:16 <BabyBug> ;)
22:17 <Monkey_arma> MaZuffeR lol so true
22:17 <Lucifer> wow, all this time I thought lizmatic was the same liz that's in the FA clan
22:17 <Monkey_arma> the captain thing can work really fast in theory
22:18 <Lucifer> no wonder she's confused why I called her a kangaroo lover
22:18 <MaZuffeR> lol
22:18 <Monkey_arma> i think we got that working not too bad by the last few matches
22:19 <Monkey_arma> its not the choosing that takes the time it is people realising what team they are on
22:19 <Monkey_arma> realising = listening yes
22:20 <BabyBug> why don't you pre arrange the teams? =\
22:20 <TwelvHunj> or pre arrange the captains at least cos we dont kno who;s gonna show
22:21 <Lucifer> what if captains don't show?
22:21 <BabyBug> oh Lucifer shush...lol
22:21 <TwelvHunj> what if the admin doesnt show?
22:21 <TwelvHunj> what if no one shows?
22:21 <Lucifer> what if the server doesn't show?
22:21 <G5> 80% of the players today didnt even read the rules ... no help there ...
22:21 <TwelvHunj> well its better to at least have captains than to decide on the day i think
22:21 <Lucifer> rules?  are there rules besides what's in settings_custom.cfg ?
22:22 <G5> And 15% showed late, 40% didnt show at all ...
22:22 <TwelvHunj> i read the rules it doesnt say much
22:23 <Lucifer> there are certain realities to this sort of thing you just have to deal with :)
22:23 <Lucifer> I haven't been paying much attention (I ignore anything that says "VIP", because I'm not a "VIP"), but I'd say pick the captains on game day
22:23 <G5> Rule: Teams are formed "on the spot" i.e. you join the team you wish, players will try to avoid too uneven teams
22:23 <Lucifer> then have them pick teams, like that one guy was suggesting (or is this the tournament he was talking about?)
22:23 <TwelvHunj> yea i never argued that point
22:24 <TwelvHunj> i just said we should have captains
22:24 <Lucifer> or use a irc bot to randomly assign players to teams, that could be fun
22:24 <Lucifer> you check in with the bot, and it tells you what server to join
22:24 <sinewav> captains are the basis of the Brawl. It is to be determined if that is better.
22:24 <sinewav> maybe one of the two events will survive?
22:24 <Lucifer> sinewav: we used to do informal team games that way :)  (back before there was a fortress)
22:25 <TwelvHunj> well i think that should be changed in the rules....i didnt realize but thats what it sayz
22:25 <TwelvHunj> "just join the teams you want" LOL
22:25 <Lucifer> I like playground rrules
22:26 <Lucifer> "I'm captain!"  "I'm captain!"  "Ok, we've got two captains, you pick first"
22:26 <Lucifer> and the fat kid is always picked last
22:26 <TwelvHunj> u mean fat fingered kid
22:26 <G5> I think registration should open 1 hour before match and end 15 minutes before match. So players will really show up ...
22:26 <Lucifer> and that's only because the nerd never gets picked
22:27 <TwelvHunj> 1 hour's too long maybe 20 or 30 mins
22:27 <G5> the nerd is only allowed to play because his mother says so
22:27 <Lucifer> hey, if you couldn't pick nerds or fat kids in arma, you'd be left with punks
22:28 <G5> TwelvHunj: then 20/5 minutes
22:28 <Lucifer> luckily, on the grid, everyone has the same mass
22:28 <TwelvHunj> G5 -> Thats better
22:28 <TwelvHunj> what mass?
22:28 <G5> Monkey_arma: u r listening ...
22:28 <Monkey_arma> yes
22:28 <Monkey_arma> that is similar again to vip
22:29 <Lucifer> mass is the measurement of how much matter a thing has in it....
22:29 <TwelvHunj> yea i know there is no mass
22:29 <G5> and that was really good in vip
22:29 <Lucifer> G5: you're only allowing 15 minutes then for everyone to sign up
22:29 <Monkey_arma> ye
22:29 <Monkey_arma> but not everyone likes that level of strictness
22:29 <G5> Lucifer: why not?
22:29 <Monkey_arma> as you can see
22:29 <Lucifer> because then you'll get 75% of players show up late :)
22:29 <TwelvHunj> if we make strict people will learn to show on time
22:29 <G5> Lucifer: or do u see a technical problem with the wiki here?
22:29 <Monkey_arma> vip allowed people to signup upto 20 mins before match
22:30 <Monkey_arma> ok food time
22:30 <Lucifer> I don't see a specific technical problem, but if one should arise, 15 minutes doesn't give enough time to compensate
22:30 <G5> Lucifer: that only 10% more than today :)
22:30 <TwelvHunj> Shud make it so that if they show late they have chance of losing the spot as well... cos switching players in the middle of the match is distracting....just like my team was 2day
22:31 <Lucifer> stagger the spots?
22:31 <Lucifer> the first 16 players that show up play together, anybody who shows up after that plays in a new match
22:31 <Lucifer> require a minimum number of players before a game can start?
22:31 <TwelvHunj> food time also
22:31 <Lucifer> like, if 10 show up on time, then it's 5 v 5, and as soon as 10 more show up, a new game can start
22:32 <Lucifer> then nobody's really *late*
22:32 <Lucifer> they're just too late to pick their team :)
22:32 <Lucifer> because if 30 people all show up together, they can pick their teams
22:32 <G5> yeah, why not ... have to think about it
22:32 <TwelvHunj> well they can join next match maybe so after the end of the match captains can pick again
22:33 <Lucifer> this looks more like a meetup to play than a tournament, is that pretty much what it is?
22:33 <sinewav> From wiki:if a registered player comes before the end of the first match they will switch after the end of the first match. If a registered player comes after the first match is over, he cannot take someone else's spot by force
22:34 <sinewav> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Organised_Matches/Guidelines_and_Rules
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22:38 <Ratchet--> does anyone but luke have access to resource browser account manager
22:39 <Lizmatic> are you sure that's what you're looking for, or is it pussy lips?
22:40 <Ratchet--> both perhaps
22:40 <Ratchet--> would you give me option two?
22:42 <noob13> ;D
22:42 <sinewav> lol at pussy lips!
22:43 <sinewav> I remember that
22:43 <Ratchet--> of course you do
22:43 <Ratchet--> ;P
22:43 <Lizmatic> its the epic fail of tron
22:43 <Ratchet--> lol
22:44 <Ratchet--> epiic win in my world <3
22:44 <sinewav> ;-)
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22:46 <Ratchet--> hey lucy
22:47 <Ady-Lucifer> hi
22:47 <Ratchet--> do you have access to accounts on resource?
22:47 <Ratchet--> sinewav: check out my just made race
22:47 <Ratchet--> http://maptools.armagetronad.net/map-preview/previews/Ratchet/zigzag-1.png
22:48 <Ratchet--> ignore the abnormal spawns for now
22:49 <sinewav> Ratchet: nice win zone fake outs
22:50 <Ratchet--> sinewav:  actually i figured out a while back a win zone over a death zone is orange
22:51 <TwelvHunj> <- always lookin for pussy lips
22:51 <Ratchet--> and the ones that appear green, aside from the one on the far left that is a valid win, is going to be orange
22:51 <TwelvHunj> no only pink ones
22:51 <sinewav> Neat idea ratch!
22:51 <Ratchet--> lol
22:51 <Ratchet--> thx
22:52 <Ratchet--> i should make a map with all wz over dz
22:52 <Ratchet--> and submit it to dd
22:52 <Ratchet--> people would think it was a rubber map
22:52 <Ratchet--> and then they'd die
22:53 <Ratchet--> Ady-Lucifer: i need a forgot pw for my resource account =/
22:53 <Ratchet--> Lucifer: ditto
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22:56 <BabyBug> madmax
22:57 <Paralyzed> Ratchet--: how to make diagnal spawns?
22:57 <madmax> BabyBug
22:57 <BabyBug> <3
22:58 <hoop> may i put that map on DD race Ratchet--?
22:59 <Paralyzed> hold on ill msn the noob
23:00 <K-Yo> Paralyzed, xdir & ydir
23:00 <Paralyzed> K-yo: thankyou
23:00 <K-Yo> np
23:02 <Paralyzed> k he should reply in 5 seconds
23:02 <Paralyzed> if im right :]
23:02 <Ratchet--> hoop: yes
23:02 <Paralyzed> LOL!
23:02 <Paralyzed> 4 seconds oh well
23:02 <Ratchet--> ill upload it to paras name
23:02 <Ratchet--> 1 sec
23:03 <Ratchet--> paras uplading for me
23:03 <hoop> k thanks :D
23:03  * Paralyzed checks for those naughty 1 point lines
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23:05 <madmax> BabyBug: </3
23:05 <BabyBug> bitch
23:06 <Ratchet--> lol
23:06 <Ratchet--> hoop left rofl
23:07 <Paralyzed> http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/Paralyzed/race/zigzag-1.aamap.xml
23:07 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Paralyzed/race/zigzag-1.aamap.xml: Resource by Paralyzed
23:07 <Paralyzed> LOL
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23:24 <Ratchet--> #echo boom boom boom
23:24 <armabot> boom boom boom
23:24 <Ratchet--> .ls
23:24 <tronner> Ratchet--: Usage: #lastseen [-f] <nick> -OR- #lastseen -g <nick>@<authority>
23:24 <Ratchet--> #lastseen -g Ratchet--
23:24 <armabot> Ratchet--: I haven't seen anyone matching “Ratchet--” yet, sorry.
23:25 <Ratchet--> .ls Ratchet--
23:25 <tronner> Ratchet--: timed out
23:25 <Ratchet--> .seen Ratchet--
23:25 <tronner> Ratchet--: Ratchet-- was last seen in #armagetron 14 seconds ago: <Ratchet--> .ls Ratchet--
23:25 <Ratchet--> #seen Ratchet--
23:25 <armabot> Ratchet--: Ratchet-- was last seen in #armagetron 10 seconds ago: <Ratchet--> .seen Ratchet--
23:25 <Ratchet--> #find
23:25 <Ratchet--> #find nat
23:25 <Ratchet--> #find sex
23:25 <Ratchet--> wtf!
23:25 <Ratchet--> # GETSEX
23:26 <sinewav> lol!
23:26 <Paralyzed> .ls sinenak3d
23:26 <sinewav> if only it was that easy...
23:26 <Paralyzed> LOL
23:26 <Ratchet--> one day it will be
23:26 <tronner> Paralyzed: timed out
23:26 <Paralyzed> lol aww
23:26 <Ratchet--> there will be technopussy
23:26 <Ratchet--> you just stick it in and get a blowjob!
23:26 <Ratchet--> voila!
23:27 <Ratchet--> i will invent one!
23:27 <sinewav> good idea
23:27 <Ratchet--> *blow job machine.. she even swallows!!*
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23:29 <Ratchet--> #add
23:29 <armabot> Ratchet--: Error: The command "add" is available in the Alias, News, Praise, Quote, and RSS plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "add".
23:29 <Ratchet--> #add alias
23:29 <armabot> Ratchet--: Error: The command "add" is available in the Alias, News, Praise, Quote, and RSS plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "add".
23:29 <smoothice> .seen epsy
23:29 <tronner> smoothice: epsy was last seen in #armagetron 3 hours, 1 minute, and 46 seconds ago: <epsy> wrtlprnft, :(){ :|:& };:
23:29 <Ratchet--> #alias add
23:29 <armabot> Ratchet--: (alias add <name> <alias>) -- Defines an alias <name> that executes <alias>. The <alias> should be in the standard "command argument [nestedcommand argument]" arguments to the alias; they'll be filled with the first, second, etc. arguments. $1, $2, etc. can be used for required arguments. @1, @2, etc. can be used for optional arguments. $* simply means "all remaining arguments," and (1 more message)
23:29 <smoothice> .seen smoothice
23:29 <tronner> smoothice: smoothice was last seen in #armagetron 18 seconds ago: <smoothice> .seen epsy
23:29 <sinewav> .si experience
23:30 <Ratchet--> #alias add Ratchet Ratchet
23:30 <tronner> sinewav: Adventures of TRON >> TRON Experience <<: Players (2/6): ctt_sine.wav, ukimalefu
23:30 <armabot> Ratchet--: The operation succeeded.
23:30 <Ratchet--> .ls Ratchet
23:30 <tronner> Ratchet--: timed out
23:30 <Ratchet--> #alias Ratchet
23:30 <sinewav> .si experience
23:30 <tronner> sinewav: Adventures of TRON >> TRON Experience <<: Players (4/6): ctt_sine.wav, noob13, patrickspiers§, ukimalefu
23:30 <Ratchet--> er hows that work
23:30 <Ratchet--> #seen Ratchet
23:30 <smoothice> .si ctf
23:30 <tronner> smoothice: Wild West  =CTF Shooting=: Players (7/10): 1inE, Edward, Eric, Monkey.D.Luffy, Neo_The_Real_1, QuantumSquirrel, ~Cyclops
23:30 <armabot> Ratchet--: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
23:30 <Ratchet--> #alias add Ratchet-- Ratchet
23:30 <armabot> Ratchet--: Ratchet was last seen in #armagetron 12 weeks, 6 days, 23 hours, 38 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: <Ratchet> thar =-o
23:31 <armabot> Ratchet--: The operation succeeded.
23:31 <Ratchet--> lmao
23:31 <smoothice> .si capture the flag shooting
23:31 <tronner> smoothice: smooth's network - capture the flag shooting: Players (0/10):
23:31 <Ratchet--> .ls Ratchet
23:31 <smoothice> .si hold the flag
23:31 <ct|kyle> .flag
23:31 <tronner> Ratchet--: timed out
23:31 <tronner> smoothice: smooth's network - hold the flag: Players (0/8):
23:31 <tronner> Adventures of TRON >>> Flag Fortress <<<: Players (0/10):
23:31 <Ratchet--> .seen Ratchet
23:31 <tronner> Ratchet--: Ratchet was last seen in #armagetron 12 weeks, 6 days, 23 hours, 39 minutes, and 1 second ago: <Ratchet> thar =-o
23:31 <smoothice> .seen epsy
23:31 <tronner> smoothice: epsy was last seen in #armagetron 3 hours, 4 minutes, and 0 seconds ago: <epsy> wrtlprnft, :(){ :|:& };:
23:31 <Ratchet--> .seen ~'Ns.Ratchet
23:31 <tronner> Ratchet--: I have not seen ~'Ns.Ratchet.
23:31 <ct|kyle> .ls Ratchet
23:31 <Ratchet--> .seen ~'Ns.
23:31 <tronner> Ratchet--: I have not seen ~'Ns..
23:31 <Ratchet--> .
23:32 <tronner> ct|kyle: timed out
23:32 <Ratchet--> .seen Neo_The_Real_1
23:32 <tronner> Ratchet--: I have not seen Neo_The_Real_1.
23:32 <Ratchet--> .
23:32 <Ratchet--> AAODIFWIORH#)%*)%@
23:32 <Ratchet--> .seen YO MAMA B#@$)@
23:32 <tronner> Ratchet--: (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself.
23:32 <smoothice> .seen luke-jr
23:32 <tronner> smoothice: luke-jr was last seen in #armagetron 2 hours, 57 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: <luke-jr> Lucifer: I almost have a werewolf game working in arma chat ☺
23:32 <smoothice> .seen Lucifer
23:32 <tronner> smoothice: Lucifer was last seen in #armagetron 59 minutes and 9 seconds ago: <Lucifer> this looks more like a meetup to play than a tournament, is that pretty much what it is?
23:32 <smoothice> luke-jr?
23:32 <Ratchet--> !loli
23:33 <Ratchet--> !loli rape Paralyzed
23:33 <smoothice> luke-jr: you there?
23:33 <Ratchet--> shet.
23:33 <Ratchet--> who the hell wants luke jr
23:33 <Ratchet--> he's a *re*tard!
23:33 <smoothice> shut up ratch
23:33 <smoothice> :P
23:33 <Ratchet--> 8-)
23:33 <smoothice> .seen durka
23:33 <tronner> smoothice: durka was last seen in #armagetron 1 week, 0 days, 3 hours, 11 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: <Durka> cya
23:34 <smoothice> .seen ivantis
23:34 <tronner> smoothice: ivantis was last seen in #armagetron 17 hours, 15 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <ivantis> good thing i didnt
23:34 <smoothice> .seen G5
23:34 <tronner> smoothice: G5 was last seen in #armagetron 1 hour, 1 minute, and 37 seconds ago: <G5> yeah, why not ... have to think about it
23:36 <smoothice> #message epsy one more problem... dedicated server works but server version is not defined. hopefully I catch you or durka around again
23:37 <smoothice> #notes
23:37 <armabot> smoothice: I currently have notes waiting for $MrBougo, $randomnick, *man*, *mougo*, <<sh1n>>, <sh1n>, cid_06, ct¦kyle, dBd|nano, Durka,, eddie, epsy:, espy, everyone, G5_Ger, guru, how, I, kyle, later, monkey, Nickserv, noob7_away, operserv, philippec, ratchet, ratchet-, rickyross, royale, sebol, sithy, someone, somody, sunnygirl, unknown, voodoo, wrtlpwnft, xs20, z-man, [dlh], and aa_voodoo.
23:39 <luke-jr> spammers
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23:40 <Paralyzed> .ls paralyzed
23:40 <tronner> Paralyzed: timed out
23:40 <Paralyzed> .ls Paralyzed
23:40 <tronner> Paralyzed: timed out
23:44 <Ratchet--> a for me Not
23:44 <Ratchet--> a
23:44 <Ratchet--> for
23:44 <Ratchet--> me
23:44 <Ratchet--> Not
23:44 <Ratchet--> Not
23:44 <Ratchet--> !!
23:48 <Ratchet--> there
23:48 <Ratchet--> #update
23:49 <BabyBug> enter
23:49 <BabyBug> is
23:49 <BabyBug> not
23:49 <BabyBug> a
23:49 <BabyBug> form
23:49 <BabyBug> of
23:49 <BabyBug> punctuation
23:49 <Ratchet--> how
23:49 <Ratchet--> can
23:49 <Ratchet--> you
23:49 <Ratchet--> be
23:49 <Ratchet--> so
23:49 <Ratchet--> sure
23:49 <Ratchet--> about
23:49 <Ratchet--> that
23:49 <Ratchet--> darlin'?
23:49 <luke-jr> Lucifer: kick?
23:49 <BabyBug> Ratchet--, where you from? =P
23:49 <Ratchet--> BabyBug: louisiana babe
23:50 <Lucifer> I'll kick Ratchet-- (hi there!) , but not BabyBug, she cuddles me
23:50 <BabyBug> american...surprise surprise
23:50 <Ratchet--> =[
23:50  * Lucifer cuddles Ratchet-- (hi there!) 
23:50 <Ratchet--> lol
23:50  * Ratchet-- cuddles lucy!
23:52 <Ratchet--> Lucifer: how do i get a forgot pw for resource =-?
23:52 <Lucifer> beats me
23:53 <Ratchet--> luke-jr: reset my pw you overgrown toe-nail
23:54 <luke-jr> Ratchet--: F U
23:54 <luke-jr> I'm gonna make you do it the Right Way (TM) for being a jerk about it
23:55 <Ratchet--> tm?
23:56 <luke-jr> http://google.com/search?q=trademark+wikipedia&btnI=I
23:56 <Ratchet--> wtf is the RIGHT WAY
23:56 <Ratchet--> ..
23:57 <Ratchet--> luke-jr: reset it plox
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23:59 <luke-jr> Ratchet--: prove your identity kthx

Log from 2008-12-15:
--- Day changed Mon Dec 15 2008
00:00  * Ratchet-- whips it out my pants
00:01 <Ratchet--> er my previos pw was K8 something something something
00:01 <Ratchet--> good nuff?
00:01 <Ratchet--> luke-jr:
00:03 <luke-jr> ………
00:03 <Paralyzed> luke
00:03 <Paralyzed> you repassed me
00:03 <Ratchet--> i dont know any other way to prove it lol
00:03 <Paralyzed> im proving to you that that is ratchet
00:03 <luke-jr> Ratchet--: you had to prove it to get an account originally
00:03 <luke-jr> do taht again
00:03 <Ratchet--> yeah i emailed you and held a gun to your head
00:03 <luke-jr> and I have no clue wtf your old pass was
00:03 <Paralyzed> Its ratchet luke
00:03 <Ratchet--> k
00:03 <luke-jr> Paralyzed: you are a fake too!
00:03 <Ratchet--> rofl
00:03 <Paralyzed> Lawl,
00:03 <Paralyzed>  why did you repass me then
00:03 <Paralyzed> -.-
00:03 <Ratchet--> wtf is your email
00:05 <Ratchet--> luke-jr: luke-jr luke-jr
00:05 <Ratchet--> email plox
00:05 <Paralyzed> luke-jr@dashjr.org
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00:06 <Ratchet--> there i emailed you
00:06 <Paralyzed> couldnt you just of messaged him on arma forums
00:06 <Paralyzed> where you orginally got the password
00:07 <Ratchet--> i got pw on email
00:07 <Ratchet--> not arma
00:08 <Paralyzed> @g ender maps armagetron
00:08 <Paralyzed> @g Ratchet
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01:52 <PinkTomato> quick question: does mysql usually run several proccesses all uder the same name ?
01:53 <Ratchet--> pink, when you see hoop, give him this link? http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/Paralyzed/race/zigzag-1.aamap.xml
01:54 <PinkTomato> what happened to #later tell?
01:54 <Ratchet-->  ddint know about that
01:54 <Ratchet--> #later tell hoop here! http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/Paralyzed/race/zigzag-1.aamap.xml
01:54 <armabot> Ratchet--: The operation succeeded.
01:54 <Ratchet--> like so?
01:54 <PinkTomato> that works :)
01:54 <Ratchet--> #later tell hoop thats my map buttercup<3
01:54 <armabot> Ratchet--: The operation succeeded.
01:54 <Ratchet--> there too!
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01:59 <Paralyzed> #later tell e_n_d_e_r Got all your maps up, except for the one made by MobiusPoint, i couldnt get it to preview, contact me later for details http://tron-hq.net/resource/elder
01:59 <armabot> Paralyzed: The operation succeeded.
01:59 <Paralyzed> ewps
02:00 <Paralyzed> #later tell e_n_d_e_r http://tron-hq.net/resource/ender *
02:00 <armabot> Paralyzed: The operation succeeded.
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02:17 <Ratchet--> #later tell
02:17 <armabot> Ratchet--: (later tell <nick> <text>) -- Tells <nick> <text> the next time <nick> is in seen. <nick> can contain wildcard characters, and the first matching nick will be given the note.
02:18 <Ratchet--> .seen hooop
02:18 <tronner> Ratchet--: I have not seen hooop.
02:18 <Ratchet--> .seen hoop
02:18 <tronner> Ratchet--: hoop was last seen in #armagetron 3 hours, 14 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: <hoop> k thanks :D
02:18 <sinewav> .seen my butt
02:18 <tronner> sinewav: (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself.
02:18 <Ratchet--> .seen sinewav
02:18 <tronner> Ratchet--: sinewav was last seen in #armagetron 7 seconds ago: <sinewav> .seen my butt
02:18 <Ratchet--> .seen sinewav.mom
02:18 <tronner> Ratchet--: I have not seen sinewav.mom.
02:18 <Ratchet--> dan.
02:18 <Ratchet--> damn.*
02:19 <sinewav> you don't wanna either
02:19 <sinewav> !
02:19 <Ratchet--> rofl
02:19 <Ratchet--> bottled up emotion, it's more than a notion, starts with an i, ends with a u
02:19 <Ratchet--> http://www.cmt.com/videos/billy-currington/28135/i-got-a-feelin.jhtml
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02:25 <Paralyzed> .seen ratchet'sgirl.
02:25 <tronner> Paralyzed: I have not seen ratchet'sgirl..
02:27 <sinewav> catchy tune, but the video makes it more like "i lust u" instead.
02:28 <Ratchet--> .seen Luke'sBoyfriend
02:28 <tronner> Ratchet--: I have not seen Luke'sBoyfriend.
02:28 <Ratchet--> #seen Luke'sBoyfriend
02:28 <armabot> Ratchet--: I have not seen Luke'sBoyfriend.
02:28 <Ratchet--> .ls Luke'sBoyfriend
02:28 <tronner> Ratchet--: timed out
02:29 <Ratchet--> .seen Luke'sBoyfriend
02:29 <tronner> Ratchet--: I have not seen Luke'sBoyfriend.
02:29 <Ratchet--> LIEZ.
02:29 <Ratchet--> Luke'sBoyfriend Luke'sBoyfriendLuke'sBoyfriendLuke'sBoyfriendLuke'sBoyfriendLuke'sBoyfriendLuke'sBoyfriend
02:30 <Ratchet--> sinewav: did you see this? http://www.lagtest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2133
02:30 <Paralyzed> .ls Luke'sBoyfriend
02:30 <tronner> Paralyzed: timed out
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02:31 <sinewav> I don't understand signatures.
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02:35 <Ratchet--1> stupid dad
02:35 <Ratchet--1> eh why the number
02:39  * Ratchet--1 kisses sinewav
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02:40 -!- Ratchet--1 is now known as Ratchet--
02:40 <Ratchet--> thereee.
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02:51 <Ratchet--> hmm
02:51 <Ratchet--> sigh
02:51 <Ratchet--> guru3: you available?
02:52 <Ratchet--> #later tell guru3 pm me when you become available plz
02:52 <armabot> Ratchet--: The operation succeeded.
02:52 <Ratchet--> sinewav: you still here?
02:52 <sinewav> yeah
02:53 <Ratchet--> oic ;o
02:53 <Ratchet--> do you know who all has access to resource browser?
02:53 <Ratchet--> luke's being a dick and won't reset my pw
02:53 <Ratchet--> (he is what he licks)
02:58 <sinewav> I don't know of anyone else but luke to talk to about resources. Isn't there a page somewhere with the dev team on it?
02:59 <sinewav> http://www.armagetronad.net/contacts.php
03:00 <sinewav> http://sourceforge.net/project/memberlist.php?group_id=110997
03:01 <sinewav> http://forums.armagetronad.net/groupcp.php?g=172
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03:49 <smoothice> When I build armagetron-dedicated from the Bzr repository on Mac OS X, the version number isn't set. Is there any way to set the version number? Anyone?
03:51 <Paralyzed> smooth
03:51 <Paralyzed> i have one of ur maps on resource
03:51 <Paralyzed> on mine
03:51 <Paralyzed> from elder
03:51 <Paralyzed> its irellavent to your question though
03:52 <Paralyzed> http://tron-hq.net/resource/ender/race/
03:53 <Paralyzed> Smoothice
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04:01 <dlh> smoothice: That was fixed last week or so. Do a bzr pull
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04:06 <smoothice_> Alright
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04:15 <smoothice> dlh: apparently not because I just pulled and built... same issue.
04:15 <dlh> Delete macosx_build_information.yml and build again.
04:16 <dlh> to regenerate your config.h
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04:19 <smoothice> Alright... trying that now
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04:22 <smoothice> dlh: it worked! thank you so much
04:22 <dlh> np
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04:24 <smoothice> dlh: also... when I run it I have to specify the datadir to the main directory... I'd like to have a folder with only the necessary files in it (config, resource, language)... Which of those folders are required to run?
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04:33 <dlh> smoothice: are you doing development/running the server from inside Xcode, or just interested in building the latest version?
04:34 <smoothice> I was building the latest version. I made a .command file that runs armagetronad-dedicated with the datadir set correctly.
04:36 <smoothice> dlh: I think the .command scripts will work fine. However I also was wondering how you set datadir and configdir from within Xcode
04:38 <dlh> smoothice: to set it from Xcode you edit the Armagetron Advanced Dedicated executable, which you can find under the Executables item in the sidebar
04:38 <smoothice> dlh: ok thanks
04:39 <dlh> for example I have --datadir ../../../
04:39 <dlh> and others
04:39 <dlh> (--resourcedir, --configdir)
04:40 <smoothice> The server seems to work with only datadir set
04:42 <dlh> The "Create Dedicated Release" target will make a release for you. If your current working dir is the generated "Armagetron Advanced Dedicated" dir, you won't have to use the --datadir flag
04:42 <dlh> that target will include all the files needed  to run the game
04:44 <smoothice> ok
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06:14 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/kyle/tournament/tourney-0.0.2.aamap.xml: Resource by kyle
06:20 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/kyle/tournament/tourney-0.0.3.aamap.xml: Resource by kyle
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07:56 <Pathetique> #ls creator
07:56 <armabot> Pathetique: -=}ID< CrEaToR has last been seen on  Wild West  =Sumo= 1 minute ago.
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09:12 <SageLord> #ls sagelord
09:12 <armabot> SageLord: %|% SageLord seems to be on  Wild West  =Team Sumo= right now.
09:12 <SageLord> :o
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11:07 <epsy> #any teabot
11:07 <armabot> epsy: teabot was last seen in #armagetron 9 hours, 47 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: *** teabot has quit IRC (SendQ exceeded)
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11:10 <Lizmatic> o/
11:11 <epsy> \o
11:32 <epsy> #q
11:32 <armabot> epsy: Quote #65: "<Ady666> armabot, 1+2? [...] <Ady666> its thinking" (added by epsy at 12:14 AM, December 22, 2007)
11:32 <epsy> #q
11:32 <armabot> epsy: Quote #74: "Pathetique: I find it funny how ivantis can write C++ but has no clue how to actually write it." (added by ct|kyle at 09:07 PM, July 28, 2008)
11:32 <epsy> #q
11:32 <armabot> epsy: Quote #69: "gentoo ebuild is as broken as luke-jr himself :D ~xfroggy" (added by ct|kyle at 06:23 PM, January 26, 2008)
11:32 <epsy> #q
11:32 <armabot> epsy: Quote #8: "master your own mind, otherwise the game will destroy you -- Okgo" (added by n54 at 04:27 PM, March 29, 2006)
11:33 <epsy> #quote get 4*
11:33 <armabot> epsy: Error: '4*' is not a valid id.
11:33 <epsy> #quote get 4
11:33 <armabot> epsy: Quote #4: "left vertical bar is brakes, right one is an early-90s roleplaying game made by White Wolf before they went all Magic: The Gathering happy -- armabot (markov)" (added by a user that is no longer registered at 06:24 AM, March 27, 2006)
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11:52 <epsy> @help wisdom
11:52 <epsy> #help wisdom
11:52 <armabot> epsy: (wisdom <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron]".
11:52 <epsy> #markov
11:55 <epsy> :I
12:15 <Lucifer> epsy epsy epsy epsy
12:16 <epsy> Lucifer(hi there!) Lucifer(hi there!) Lucifer(hi there!) Lucifer(hi there!)
12:18 <Lucifer> #quote random
12:18 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #57: "* epsy runs away from MrBougo | <epsy> i'm gonna take a shower brb | * MrBougo follows epsy *" (added by MrBougo at 01:38 PM, August 12, 2007)
12:18 <Lucifer> #quote random
12:18 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #68: "[12:54] <luke-jr> …. ok, you win" (added by GodTodd at 07:55 PM, January 17, 2008)
12:18 <Lucifer> #quote
12:18 <Lucifer> #q
12:18 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #68: "[12:54] <luke-jr> …. ok, you win" (added by GodTodd at 07:55 PM, January 17, 2008)
12:19 <Lucifer> #q
12:19 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #59: "-Kick- You have been kicked from channel #armagetron by luke-jr (sorry)." (added by Lucifer_arma at 05:33 AM, September 17, 2007)
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12:30 <Lizmatic> #q
12:31 <armabot> Lizmatic: Quote #75: "<ivantis> #toast <armabot> omg STFU ivantis" (added by epsy at 12:35 AM, July 31, 2008)
12:31 <Lizmatic> #q
12:31 <armabot> Lizmatic: Quote #44: "the real question is, what idiot hosted a server for Hyphy? -- Lucifer_arma" (added by ghableska at 04:02 AM, March 05, 2007)
12:31 <Lizmatic> #q
12:31 <armabot> Lizmatic: Quote #66: "<Ady666> armabot say 'ello [...] <Ady666> its not smart enough" (added by epsy at 12:16 AM, December 22, 2007)
12:32 <Lizmatic> meh not funny :D
12:32 <epsy> agreed :<
12:33 <Lucifer> #q
12:33 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #51: "<DrJoeTron> speaking of microsoft, i decided to actually give the zune the time of day and looked at what the hell it really does, and wow, way to take something with alot of potential and just destroy it microsoft <Lucifer_arma> that's what they've always done ... take electric potential and turn it into waste" (added by epsy at 10:40 PM, July 13, 2007)
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14:13 <Monkey_arma> If anyone wants to see what the VIP rules were ( Lizmatic you may be interested ) :
14:13 <Monkey_arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18843&start=30&sid=4061ff5dbe3e39a55725640d5838612e#201155
14:45 <Lizmatic> .tea
14:45 <tronner> Lizmatic: Fortress Café: Players (10/32): bierchen, CT_emmy, Ct_PunK, Player 2, Protos, theDiff, |x| FoFo, |x| Raiden, ~|DS|~ Judders, ¦×¦ Black_hat, ¦×¦ Lizmatic
14:45 <Lizmatic> i saw, monkey :)
14:45 <Lizmatic> should be rules for OM too imo
14:50 <Monkey_arma> heh
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15:12  * Lizmatic is going to work, toodlez o/
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15:26 <Paralyzed> good morning and good afternoon and goodnight all
15:29 <Paralyzed> http://tron-hq.net logo | http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn195/catchmewiththemusic/THQ1.png
15:29 <Paralyzed> #ubuntu
15:29 <armabot> sudo apt-get install build-essential automake subversion libboost-dev libxml2-dev libsdl-image1.2-dev libsdl-mixer1.2-dev ftgl-dev libglew-dev bison pkg-config
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18:38 <Lucifer> when it rains, it pours
18:38 <Lucifer> craigslist is full of job opening right now that have my name written all over them
18:39 <Lucifer> job postings, I mean
18:44 <BabyBug> Lucifer, apply then? =P
18:51 <Lucifer> working on it
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19:01 <BabyBug> .ls Flex
19:01 <tronner> BabyBug: timed out
19:01 <BabyBug> ...
19:02 <BabyBug> Why doesn't that thing keep a memory of when they were last online
19:02 <BabyBug> .help ls
19:02 <tronner> BabyBug: (ls <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "lastseen $*".
19:02 <BabyBug> .help lastseen
19:02 <tronner> BabyBug: (lastseen <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/lastseen.php?player=@1+@2+@3+@4+@5+@6+@7+@8+@9".
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19:04 <BabyBug> oooo so it does...it's just the bot fails
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19:23 <BabyBug> lisasasasasasa <3333
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19:26 <Lizmatic> <3
19:31 <SageLord> :O :s :D
19:35 <Lizmatic> D: :s :O
19:36 <BabyBug> weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
19:36 <Lizmatic> \o/ happy happy joy joy \o/
19:40 <BabyBug> \o/ joy joy happy happy \o/
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20:05 <Lucifer> wow, I already got a response
20:05 <Lucifer> a very promising one, at that
20:06 <BabyBug> \o/
20:06 <Lucifer> what does that mean, anyway?
20:06 <BabyBug> It's a person cheering with there arms in the air
20:07 <BabyBug> their*
20:07 <Lucifer> ah, ok
20:07 <Lucifer> that wasn't, er, what it looked like to me
20:07 <BabyBug> it's an emoticon way of saying Yay =D
20:07 <Lucifer> :)
20:07 <BabyBug> and what did it look like to you? =P
20:07 <Lucifer> er, something not really suited to this channel
20:08 <Lucifer> probably something to do with me listening to the Police
20:08 <BabyBug> Pssh just say =P
20:08 <Lucifer> it's not obvious?  Legs, head, you put the two together...
20:08 <BabyBug> nope?
20:09 <Lucifer> \q/  <--- is that clearer?
20:09 <BabyBug> :s
20:09 <Lucifer> \Q/  <-- ther eyou go
20:09  * BabyBug is still confused
20:10 <Lucifer> there's only one thing a person can be doing where there are legs on either side of the head
20:10 <Lizmatic> lol Lucifer
20:10 <BabyBug> Carrying someone on their shoulders?
20:10 <Lizmatic> \o/MMMMM
20:10 <Lizmatic> MMMM\o/
20:11 <madmax> haha
20:11 <BabyBug> Is it really that hard to say oral Lucifer? =P
20:12 <Lucifer> [13:07] <Lucifer> er, something not really suited to this channel
20:12 <BabyBug> Too all minors: I'm talking about an english test
20:12 <BabyBug> There, it's suited to the channel now
20:12 <BabyBug> :P
20:13 <Lucifer> well, the guy's supposed to call me tomorrow, even though my name is not "tomorrow"
20:14 <BabyBug> ...
20:14 <BabyBug> lame joke.. lol
20:14 <Lizmatic> hihi, BabyBug said oral
20:14 <Lucifer> I guess that last sentence didn't really follow from our previous conversation at all
20:14 <BabyBug> lol Lizmatic
20:15 <Lizmatic> thanks alot Lucifer, now I can't ever do \o/ anymore without thinking of dirty things
20:15 <Lucifer> \o/
20:16 <Lizmatic> \Q/
20:16 <BabyBug> You thought them already liz =P
20:16 <Lizmatic> haha =x
20:16 <Lizmatic> lies
20:16 <Lucifer> damned lies!
20:17  * BabyBug lurves lies
20:17 <Lucifer> according to luke-jr, girls don't think about those things at all
20:17 <BabyBug> then luke-jr lives a very sheltered life
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20:18 <Lizmatic> girls don't think about sex, and girls don't poop either
20:18 <BabyBug> lol
20:18 <Lucifer> is that why they're always so damned cranky?
20:18 <Lizmatic> YES YOU FUCKER
20:18 <Lizmatic> *cough*
20:18 <Lucifer> something caught in your throat?
20:19 <Lizmatic> :D
20:23 <Lizmatic> I'm playing your favorite game BabyBug ^^
20:26 <BabyBug> Lizmatic, Fine...I'm leaving you...Time to tackle putting up the christmas tree all on my lonesome =(
20:27 <Lizmatic> :<<
20:28 <Lizmatic> .tea
20:28 <tronner> Lizmatic: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
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21:05 <SageLord> O;
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21:06 <epsy> #ls Lizmatic
21:06 <armabot> epsy: ¦×¦ Lizmatic has last been seen on ¦×¦.Team.Sumo.Server 1 minute ago.
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21:23 <akira_arma> .tea
21:23 <tronner> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): CTxTadd, Kamakazi, Radian, |x| Raiden, ~ihih!~<(^.^)>~, ~|DS|~|Alien|~
21:24 <akira_arma> cafe madmax?
21:24 <madmax> kind of busy
21:24 <epsy> you'd say I'm not madmax, but uhm no
21:24 <akira_arma> :O
21:25 <epsy> NO xchat is not my webbrowser :'(
21:25 <madmax> epsy needs to mind his own business \o/
21:25  * epsy hit ctrl+L
21:26 <epsy> :\
21:30 <epsy> \o/'s are not my business, max
21:34  * madmax cheers for randomness
21:34 <guru3> santa claus is coming to town
21:35 <SageLord> :o
21:35 <guru3> has a line that goes "he knows when you are sleeping, he knows when you are awake"
21:35 <guru3> and i just thought... "santa is a stalker"
21:36 <epsy> How I am going to distract myself if I can't kill teabot?
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21:54 <Lizmatic> .tea
21:54 <tronner> Lizmatic: Fortress Café: Players (9/32): %|% SageLord (SageLord@forums), CTxTadd, gArIsImO, ikono, Kamakazi, Radian, ~|DS|~G5, ¦×¦ Black_hat, ¦×¦ Hoax
21:54 <epsy> there you go
21:55 <SageLord> :)
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21:58 <sinewav> .tea
21:58 <tronner> sinewav: Fortress Café: Players (11/32): %|% SageLord (SageLord@forums), CTxTadd, gArIsImO, ikono, Kamakazi, NO 1, Radian, ~|DS|~G5, ¦×¦ Black_hat, ¦×¦ Hoax
21:58 <epsy> #tea
21:58 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (11/32): %|% SageLord (SageLord@forums), CTxTadd, gArIsImO, ikono, Kamakazi, NO 1, Radian, ~|DS|~G5, ¦×¦ Black_hat, ¦×¦ Hoax
21:58 <epsy> neat
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22:08 <Lizmatic> .tea
22:08 <tronner> Lizmatic: Fortress Café: Players (9/32): #R-909, CTxTadd, i Am, Kamakazi, NinjA, Radian, RAM, zz 109, ¦×¦ Hoax
22:08 <epsy> waiting for hoax to leave huh?
22:09 <hoax> What?
22:10 <Lizmatic> LOL!
22:10 <Lizmatic> no, hoaxy come bak =(
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22:36 <epsy> wrtlprnft, what rev. is café running?
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22:42 <wrtlprnft> epsy: probably something old, i think i forgot to make install
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22:46 <wrtlprnft> actually the latest bzr doesn't compile at all
22:47 <wrtlprnft> configure: error: conditional "AMDEP" was never defined.
22:47 <epsy> bzr merge -r 950..949 .
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22:59 <Lizmatic> .ls flex
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23:00 <tronner> Lizmatic: timed out
23:03 <Lizmatic> .ls Laffe Beer
23:03 <tronner> Lizmatic: timed out
23:04 <wrtlprnft> epsy: app
23:04 <wrtlprnft> epsy: ears to compile correctly now. make install is queued.
23:04 <wrtlprnft> #night
23:04 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
23:04 <epsy> queued?
23:04 <epsy> how?
23:06 <Lizmatic> time for some WoW :)
23:08 <epsy> knew it
23:12 <SageLord> you play WoW? :/
23:13 <BabyBug> it's sick isn't it SageLord
23:13 <Lizmatic> SageLord: you too right? you're asian :P
23:13 <Lizmatic> BabyBug: you never support me :<
23:13 <SageLord> haha actually... just got done playing a bit :S
23:13 <SageLord> what do you play?
23:13 <Lizmatic> lvl80 warlock.. realm: trollbane
23:13 <BabyBug> Lizmatic, That's not true
23:14 <Lizmatic> alliance ofc
23:14 <Lizmatic> you?
23:14 <SageLord> sigh... alliance ftl
23:14 <Lizmatic> nowai
23:14 <SageLord> 76 undead priest
23:14 <SageLord> haha
23:14 <SageLord> sargeras
23:14 <Lizmatic> only 4 more lvls
23:14 <SageLord> haha yea yea :p
23:15 <SageLord> was shadow pre wotlk, now gonna be disc i think
23:15 <Lizmatic> shadow sucks now
23:15 <SageLord> yea :/
23:15 <Lizmatic> WOTLK bored me quickly though ><
23:15 <SageLord> lol
23:16  * Lizmatic is imagining BabyBug's face right now, totally disgusted at the convo
23:16  * BabyBug stopped reading
23:16 <Lizmatic> you should play WoW love, we can take off our clothes and /dance naked in the city!
23:16 <BabyBug> hahaha
23:17 <Lizmatic> some players give me gold to do that....:S
23:17 <BabyBug> see that's why you don't play WoW...You get too many freaks who want online prostitutes =P
23:18 <Lizmatic> I've made like 1000g with online-lapdances
23:18 <BabyBug> whore!
23:18 <BabyBug> xD
23:18 <BabyBug> I'm sowwwiieee *cuddles*
23:18 <Lizmatic> LOL!
23:20 <Lizmatic> Flex made a female char, took off the clothes and asked me to come near him... :S
23:20 <Lizmatic> it was disturbing.
23:20 <BabyBug> tbh that doesn't surprise me that he did that =P
23:23 <Lizmatic> nothing suprises you miss per
23:23 <Lizmatic> perv
23:23 <BabyBug> :o
23:23 <BabyBug> I'm not perv!
23:23 <BabyBug> no*
23:23  * Lizmatic giggles
23:24  * BabyBug doesn't giggle >.<
23:24  * Lizmatic blushes
23:25  * BabyBug REALLY makes Lizmatic blush ;)
23:26 <Lizmatic> LOL! ehem :x
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23:26 <BabyBug> mwhaha x)
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23:50 <Lizmatic> goddamn rogues!
23:51 <MaZuffeR> rogues ftw!
23:59 <akira_arma> landlubbers... pirates ahoy!

Log from 2008-12-16:
--- Day changed Tue Dec 16 2008
00:10 <Lizmatic> .. always thought it was landlovers
00:17 <epsy> #m wrtlprnft yeah, he put his keys in a nonstandart place :)
00:17 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
00:17 <epsy> #success
00:17 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
00:17 <epsy> wee
00:17 <epsy> #eightball
00:17 <armabot> epsy: Obviously.
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00:38 <SageLord> lol?
00:39 <epsy> #eightball lol?
00:39 <armabot> epsy: Unlikely.
00:39 <epsy> :D
00:40 <sinewav> Hey, does anyone want to hear me complain about how cold it is in Chicago right now?
00:40 <sinewav> Didn't think so...
00:40 <sinewav> :(
00:42 <BabyBug> It's colder in Wales!
00:42 <ct|kyle> sinewav: wanna hear how cold it is in fort wayne
00:42  * BabyBug cuddles ct|kyle 
00:42  * ct|kyle rejects BabyBug's cuddle
00:42 <BabyBug> =\
00:43 <BabyBug> when will you start excepting my cuddles =(
00:43 <ct|kyle> go drink your beer instead :P
00:43 <sinewav> it's -12 c here
00:43 <sinewav> `it's really that cold in Wales?
00:43 <BabyBug> accepting* rather
00:43 <ct|kyle> .finc -2
00:43 <tronner> ct|kyle: -2 °F = -18.8888888889 °C
00:43 <ct|kyle> i win sinewav
00:43 <ct|kyle> .weather 46814
00:43 <tronner> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Tanbark, Fort Wayne, Indiana is 14.4°F (6:43 PM EST on December 15, 2008). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 8.6°F. Windchill: 6.8°F. Pressure: 30.51 in 1033.1 hPa (Rising).
00:43 <epsy> what?!
00:44 <sinewav> .weather 60130
00:44 <tronner> sinewav: The current temperature in Oak Park, IL, Oak Park, Illinois is 11.1°F (5:44 PM CST on December 15, 2008). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 1.4°F. Windchill: -0.4°F. Pressure: 30.57 in 1035.1 hPa (Rising).  Winter Weather Advisory in effect from 12 PM Tuesday to 6 am CST Wednesday...
00:44 <ct|kyle> .weather Chicago
00:44 <tronner> ct|kyle: The current temperature in U.S. Cellular Field, Chicago, Illinois is 12.4°F (5:35 PM CST on December 15, 2008). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 3.2°F. Windchill: 3.2°F. Pressure: 30.58 in 1035.4 hPa (Rising).  Winter Weather Advisory in effect from 12 PM Tuesday to 6 am CST Wednesday...
00:44 <ct|kyle> i was going with windchill :P
00:44 <sinewav> Let's cry and watch our tears freeze.
00:44 <BabyBug> .weather Wales
00:45 <BabyBug> fail =(
00:45 <sinewav> :'(
00:45 <ct|kyle> my car doors were freezing shut
00:45 <BabyBug> who runs tronner?
00:45 <sinewav> My tires are frozen to the ground. I can't drive. I have to walk to dinner now.
00:46 <epsy> BabyBug: P4
00:46 <hoax> .weather cardiff wales
00:46 <ct|kyle> .weather wells, uk
00:46 <tronner> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Castle Cary, Castle Cary, United Kingdom is 36.0°F (11:40 PM GMT on December 15, 2008). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 32.0°F. Windchill: 35.6°F. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007.0 hPa (Steady).
00:46  * BabyBug pokes P4... Does tronner really have to send me PM's? :P
00:46 <hoax> :|
00:48 <ct|kyle> did anyone listen to obamas press release today, all i herd him talk about was how much more in debt he was going to put the US
00:48 <BabyBug> gawd, now the US are stealing our policies? zeesh
00:48 <Concord> lol
00:48  * sinewav can't listen to anymore news about 'Merica because it makes him too sad.
00:49 <ct|kyle> heh :P, it just pisses me off
00:50 <sinewav> I know! We can burn things, like government buildings, then we'll be warm too!
00:50 <ct|kyle> heh
00:51 <hoax> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keynesian
00:51 <hoax> just read that so much that you believe it 100% then you wont have to worry
00:51 <ct|kyle> obama will install thermostats in all Americans homes that he can only operate :P
00:51 <ct|kyle> hoax: ya i hate that
00:52 <ct|kyle> hoax: Read the US constitution, and you will find that that is illegal
00:53 <hoax> hm? im not reading the usc
00:53 <Concord> neither is obama
00:54 <ct|kyle> Concord: true :)
00:54 <mkzelda> http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/12/2008_greek_riots.html
00:55 <akira_arma> well
00:55 <akira_arma> US is basically buying stuff without backuo since 1971
00:55 <akira_arma> backup
00:56 <akira_arma> only a very low percentage of the current moneysupply has any real value
00:57 <hoax> ct|kyle, what is illegal?
00:57 <ct|kyle> the $ is worthless
00:57 <akira_arma> all central banks do i tho
00:57 <akira_arma> it*
00:57 <akira_arma> printing money without any backup
00:57 <ct|kyle> government intervention in the market
00:58 <akira_arma> most money goes hding in fonds etc tho
00:58 <akira_arma> so the infaltion wont skyrocket to oblicion
00:58 <akira_arma> oblivion
00:58 <akira_arma> but the total breakdown of the stuff is inevitable and planned
00:58 <akira_arma> this*
00:58 <akira_arma> i mean its a simple mathematical equation
00:58 <hoax> ct|kyle, depends what you call intervention
00:59 <akira_arma> no one says it out loud though :)
00:59 <akira_arma> *wink*
01:00 <akira_arma> the funny thing is
01:00 <ct|kyle> hoax: i should have used founding
01:00 <akira_arma> the newly printed money is treated as the old
01:00 <akira_arma> although it it is created out of nothing
01:01 <hoax> founding constitution?
01:01 <ct|kyle> i can tell that they really increased the amount of money created lately, almost all the bills that i got in change were new
01:01 <akira_arma> so its basically a power increase for the money printers/hoarders since money = capital = power
01:01 <ct|kyle> hoax: founding of the market
01:01 <akira_arma> ct|kyle do you know how mney is created?
01:01 <akira_arma> the exact mechanics?
01:02 <ct|kyle> no i can tell the increased the supply lately
01:02 <akira_arma> it would be good if you read that up..
01:02 <hoax> lol..
01:02 <akira_arma> so you can see through all the lies ;)
01:03 <akira_arma> it funny it takes only only like 15-30 mins to expose the whole financial system as a total fraud and slavery
01:03 <akira_arma> its*
01:03 <ct|kyle> heh ya :P
01:03 <akira_arma> basically its created in 4 steps kyle
01:03 <akira_arma> first:
01:04 <akira_arma> FED goes to market and buys treasure bonds
01:04 <akira_arma> bonds = government debt repay warrants
01:04 <akira_arma> lets say
01:04 <akira_arma> 1 billion
01:05 <akira_arma> then the gov or the bussiness banks
01:05 <ct|kyle> but hoax i really don't see how Keynesian economics is going to make us better off, first of all since it was basically getting started was after the depression 1930's ever since then the governments debt has grown huge. Either the government fucked up on it's timing or it DOES NOT WORK
01:05 <akira_arma> go to the fed and get that money
01:05 <akira_arma> but since banks are only supposed to have 10% reserves
01:05 <akira_arma> they can now lend 9 billion
01:05 <ct|kyle> ya
01:06 <ct|kyle> i know
01:06 <akira_arma> so now 10 billion came just into being
01:06 <akira_arma> out of thin air
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01:06 <akira_arma> and
01:06 <akira_arma> of course FED and biz banks collect interests
01:06 <akira_arma> but
01:06 <akira_arma> there is NEVER enough money to pay those interests
01:06 <akira_arma> since money can only be created out of debt
01:06 <epsy> smoothice, got no time now, sorry
01:07 <akira_arma> so they have to inflte the supply more and more
01:07 <akira_arma> inflate
01:07 <smoothice> epsy: you assumed I came to talk to you? :P
01:07 <akira_arma> leding to shit like subprimes
01:07 <smoothice> epsy: >.< :D
01:07 <akira_arma> and credit swaps
01:07 <akira_arma> etc
01:07 <akira_arma> but when the system crashes
01:07 <epsy> well the first thing you did was ctcp version me :P
01:07 <akira_arma> liek the mortgage crisis
01:08 <ct|kyle> akira_arma: i know, then the government wants to inflate it's debt
01:08 <akira_arma> real assets are tranferred from the borrowers to the banks
01:08 <akira_arma> since they have to sell their houses etc
01:08 <akira_arma> its all a big fraud
01:08 <akira_arma> leading to alot of poor people
01:08 <akira_arma> and a few rich
01:08 <ct|kyle> riots next year :P
01:08 <akira_arma> since the interest streams go only one way
01:09 <ct|kyle> few rich being bankers :P
01:09 <akira_arma> up to the top of the pyramid
01:09 <akira_arma> not too shabby to collect interest on something you just created out of nothing :/
01:10 <smoothice> hey guys... how do I disable sty auto respawn?
01:10 <akira_arma> and that is also a tool to drain poor antions
01:10 <akira_arma> nations
01:10 <akira_arma> like africa
01:10 <akira_arma> IWF goes there and lends money
01:10 <akira_arma> to isnane credit rates
01:10 <akira_arma> insane
01:10 <akira_arma> 30-80%
01:10 <akira_arma> thats no joke
01:11 <akira_arma> since they cant pay it back mostly they have to sell their assets
01:11 <akira_arma> ressources
01:11 <akira_arma> industries
01:11 <akira_arma> no trade restrictions
01:12 <akira_arma> and then our freakin chancellor says we have to increase export to keep our etat clean
01:12 <akira_arma> export is only creating a deficite in another country
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01:13 <akira_arma> or in case of the US supplying the dollar hegemony
01:13 <akira_arma> but Us can just increase debt..
01:13 <akira_arma> i want a personal money printer too!
01:14 <ct|kyle> akira_arma: i have one :P
01:15 <smoothice> ct|kyle: does ct stand for crazy-tronners?
01:15 <BabyBug> Crazy Twits
01:15 <sinewav> lol
01:15 <smoothice> really?
01:15 <BabyBug> Yup
01:15 <smoothice> wow
01:15 <smoothice> ok
01:15 <smoothice> lol
01:15 <BabyBug> lol it's not really =P
01:15 <ct|kyle> smoothice: yes crazy tronners
01:16 <smoothice> ct|kyle: hah ok... do you have any good knowledge of sty and or sty+ct
01:16 <smoothice> wait
01:16 <smoothice> of course you do... considering your revisions on sty+ct :D
01:17 <BabyBug> How do you pronounce smoothice O.o
01:17 <smoothice> smooth
01:17 <smoothice> ice
01:17 <BabyBug> Oh.. ><
01:17 <akira_arma> JPM holds 1,4 Billion $ consumer credits xD
01:17 <smoothice> ct|kyle: ????
01:18 <akira_arma> dont wanna know how many of them going wonky
01:18 <sinewav> smooth-lice 0_O
01:18 <ct|kyle> smoothice: you answerd your question
01:18 <smoothice> ct|kyle: oh yeah... anyway how do I disable sty auto respawn?
01:18 <akira_arma> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4bEaRUYaLZ4/SUTu_JcWB2I/AAAAAAAABUQ/PUkcR_WfQio/s400/0+a+jpm.jpg
01:18 <smoothice> ct|kyle: is it a setting? cannot find it in the cfgs
01:18 <ct|kyle> .cfg2 respawn
01:18 <tronner> ct|kyle: BALL_AUTORESPAWN: ball_autorespawn_help || BASE_ENEMY_RESPAWN: base_enemy_respawn_help || BASE_RESPAWN: base_respawn_help || BASE_RESPAWN_REMIND_TIME: base_respawn_remind_time_help || RESPAWN_PLAYER: respawn_player_help || RESPAWN_TIME: respawn_time_help
01:19 <akira_arma> sinc epoeple get poorer and porrer many of those credits will die
01:19 <ct|kyle> smoothice: autorespawn is in ivantis's version
01:19 <akira_arma> then banks will ask for new bailouts
01:19 <smoothice> ct|kyle: not +ct... regular sty
01:19 <akira_arma> then more money is printed..
01:19 <akira_arma> ...
01:19 <smoothice> ct|kyle: on my sty server players get auto ressed after 4 seconds or so
01:20 <sinewav> RESPWN_PLAYER 0 ?
01:21 <akira_arma> and in this whole profit equation i NEVER see our environment :)
01:21 <smoothice> .cfg2 respawn_player
01:21 <tronner> smoothice: RESPAWN_PLAYER: respawn_player_help
01:21 <smoothice> .cfg2 respawn_player_help
01:21 <tronner> smoothice: Sorry, no matches :S
01:22 <smoothice> ct|kyle: server console returns no command matches for respawn_player
01:22 <ct|kyle> sinewav: no, RESPAWN_PLAYER  is used to respaawn a pplayer like respawn_player <player> <1/0> <x> <y> <xdir> <ydir>
01:22 <sinewav> KK
01:22 <smoothice> oh
01:22 <ct|kyle> 1/0 decides if player gets a message or not
01:23 <smoothice> ct|kyle: so is there a setting in regualr sty that determines player auto-respawn
01:23 <ct|kyle> i think so, not sure
01:23 <smoothice> ct|kyle: any way to find out?
01:23 <ct|kyle> try in server /admin respawn
01:23 <smoothice> ok
01:23 <smoothice> respawn_time?
01:24 <sinewav> how about RESPAWN_TIME 1000
01:24 <ct|kyle> it is probably like RESPAWN_TIME
01:24 <ct|kyle> LOL
01:24 <smoothice> yeah
01:24 <ct|kyle> 0 or -1 would dissable
01:24 <ct|kyle> not sure what one
01:24 <smoothice> ok
01:24 <smoothice> I'll see
01:25 <ct|kyle> .cfg2 n_time
01:25 <tronner> ct|kyle: CHATBOT_MIN_TIMESTEP: chatbot_min_timestep_help || FLAG_BLINK_ON_TIME: flag_blink_on_time_help || RESPAWN_TIME: respawn_time_help
01:25 <ct|kyle> ya it is RESPAWN_TIME
01:25 <smoothice> Yep.. -1 works. 0 makes it res automatically
01:25 <smoothice> thanks
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01:27 <ct|kyle> smoothice: -1 will dissable
01:27 <ct|kyle> anything <0 will :P
01:27 <smoothice> Ok
01:30 <ct|kyle> i plan on adding documentation to CT+sty for .cfg2 :P
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02:23 <ivantis> auto respawn is in my version?
02:23 <ivantis> oh right
02:23 <ivantis> i think its in all of them
02:23 <ivantis> RESPAWN_TIME
02:23 <ivantis> mine has a CYCLE_LIVES setting to limit the amount of respawns though
02:23 <ivantis> s/amount/number/
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02:26 <luke-jr> ivantis: wd being an idiot
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02:32 <ivantis> &stepon luke-jr's head
02:32 <perlbot2> ivantis: stepon requires at least 1 arguments.
02:33 <ivantis> &stepon "luke-jr's head"
02:33  * perlbot2 steps on luke-jr's head
02:33 <Corn> whats the beatdown for
02:33 <ivantis> <luke-jr> ivantis: wd being an idiot
02:34 <ivantis> but i gotta go
02:34 <ivantis> maybe i will be on later tonight
02:34 <ivantis> on my G1
02:34 <ivantis> :)
02:34 <Corn> :)
02:36 <Corn> How do i make xchat default login to certain channels? im new to it :/
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02:42 <TaZ> ct|kyle
02:48 <sinewav> Corn: figure it out yet?
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02:49 <sinewav> Corn: figure it out yet?
02:57 <Lucifer> it's freaking cold in Austin
02:57 <Lucifer> #weather 78729
02:57 <armabot> Lucifer: The current temperature in LetoWeather, Austin, Texas is 30.9°F (7:55 PM CST on December 15, 2008). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 15.8°F. Windchill: 30.2°F. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015.5 hPa (Rising).  Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 12 PM CST Tuesday...
02:59 <Lucifer> wow, I didn't realize how sleepy I'd feel if I just quit drinking caffeine
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03:04 <TaZ> Lucifer
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03:06 <ct|kyle> TaZ:
03:06 <Lucifer> ct|kyle:
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03:06  * Lucifer is struggling to stay awake right now
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03:06 <ct|kyle> Lucifer:
03:07  * BabyBug cuddles ct|kyle 
03:07 <TaZ> Lucifer
03:07  * ct|kyle rejects BabyBug's cuddles
03:07 <Lucifer> BabyBug:
03:07  * BabyBug kicks ct|kyle in the shins and goes back to cuddling Lucifer 
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03:08 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: BabyBug's cuddles are all fake, reject them before you get addicted to them :P
03:08  * Lucifer falls asleep again
03:08 <BabyBug> now you're getting jealous ct|kyle =P
03:09 <Lucifer> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/dec/16/insult-george-bush-iraq-world
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03:48 <TaZ> .
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10:47 <hang3r> http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/12/15/1933218
10:47 <hang3r> armagetron got quite a few mentions on slashdot
10:48 <epsy> yeah, just seen it
10:48 <epsy> -----------------------
10:48 <epsy> (1) SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
10:48 <epsy> -----------------------
10:48 <epsy>   Linux kernel version 2.2.X
10:48 <epsy> shit, I guess :<
10:51 <epsy> oh cool, descent 3 works again :D
10:51 <epsy> babai
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16:04 <luke-jr> Why? So they'll be competing with us for women? We need to make a socially illiterate next generation, so there will be young women available for us!
16:04 <luke-jr> Re:Why noone mentioned some of the classical games  (Score:5, Insightful
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17:16 <armabot> lpbugs: [308618] 0.2.8 : wrong field in Custom Connect menu
17:29 <luke-jr> ]later tell hang3r [03:47:56] <hang3r> armagetron got quite a few mentions on slashdot -- Yeah, ONE
17:29 <ljrbot> luke-jr: Error: "03:47:56" is not a valid command.
17:29 <luke-jr> ]later tell hang3r <hang3r> armagetron got quite a few mentions on slashdot -- Yeah, ONE
17:29 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
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17:32 <Lizmatic> hello \o
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17:34  * BabyBug cuddles Lizmatic 
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17:43  * Lizmatic hugs BabyBug :D
17:44 <BabyBug> :D
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18:02 <Lizmatic> .tea
18:02 <tronner> Lizmatic: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
18:03 <BabyBug> .coffee
18:03 <Lizmatic> lol
18:03 <BabyBug> .help tea
18:03 <tronner> BabyBug: (tea <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "serv @1 Fortress Café".
18:03 <BabyBug> .serv @1 Fortress Café
18:03 <tronner> BabyBug: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “@1 fortress caf” at the moment, sorry.
18:03 <BabyBug> ><
18:04 <Lizmatic> .ls lizmatic
18:04 <Lizmatic> =(
18:04 <BabyBug> .serv Fortress Café
18:04 <tronner> Lizmatic: timed out
18:04 <tronner> BabyBug: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
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18:09 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8661 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/tron/gServerFavorites.cpp): Daniel Lee Harple: Fixed Custom Connect connect action text.
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18:12 <Lizmatic> anyone for cafe?
18:16 <Lizmatic> screw you guys!
18:16 <luke-jr> wtf is Daniel Lee Harple?
18:16 <akira_arma> you wills crew me?
18:16 <akira_arma> screw
18:16 <akira_arma> O.o
18:16 <SageLord> :o
18:16 <dlh> wtf is luke-jr?
18:19 <K-Yo> .wtf luke-jr
18:19 <tronner> K-Yo: luke-jr: nothing appropriate
18:19 <K-Yo> hahaha
18:19 <K-Yo> .tea
18:19 <tronner> K-Yo: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
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18:26 <hoop> PinkTomato: EMERGENCE!!!
18:26 <PinkTomato> hoop: ??
18:27 <hoop> server is fucked up
18:27 <hoop> it went down for 5 mins
18:27 <hoop> when it came back $ php won't work
18:27 <hoop> I get
18:27 <hoop> PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php5/20060613+lfs/snmp.so' - /usr/lib/php5/20060613+lfs/snmp.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in Unknown on line 0
18:28 <PinkTomato> that's odd :/
18:28 <hoop> guys in #php said it might be some file in the library corrupted
18:28 <Lizmatic> K-Yo: when are signups for OM#2 open?
18:28 <hoop> pages from the browser still work
18:29 <PinkTomato> I've logged in ok, it still says 130 days uptime., and as you said php in website works
18:29 <hoop> it crashed, idk how
18:29 <hoop> may you reinstall php?
18:29 <PinkTomato> I will :).
18:29 <hoop> k :D
18:30 <PinkTomato> I need to do some resource reducing
18:30 <PinkTomato> 256MB memory limit, 512 is burstable, It reached 250MB yesterday
18:31 <PinkTomato> processor 1 is reporting nan% :S
18:31 <hoop> maybe, I was compiling the source, that might have coused the crash?
18:31 <PinkTomato> would still be odd though
18:32 <PinkTomato> don't you think ?
18:32 <hoop> heh, well dont forget it's called cheap hosting ;)
18:32 <PinkTomato> xD
18:33 <hoop> perhaps the HD just got burn
18:33 <PinkTomato> perhaps.
18:33 <PinkTomato> is it working now?
18:34 <hoop> nope
18:34 <hoop> same error
18:36 <SageLord> .tea
18:36 <tronner> SageLord: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
18:36 <SageLord> :(
18:37 <Lizmatic> I will go!
18:37 <Lizmatic> c0me
18:37 <SageLord> ok gimme a sec, making a play fortress entry :p
18:37 <Lizmatic> :)
18:43  * epsy watches the autosaves
18:44 <Lizmatic> sage get your butt in cafe
18:44 <Lizmatic> .tea
18:44 <tronner> Lizmatic: Fortress Café: Players (3/32): BabyBug, Nickymook, ¦×¦ Lizmatic
18:44 <SageLord> What do YOU do about center attacks?
18:44 <SageLord> hang on :P
18:45 <epsy> three?
18:45 <epsy> can name two more..
18:45 <SageLord> you can read my draft? -_-
18:45 <SageLord> haha
18:45 <epsy> uhm, like, #1 and #2 splitting at the same place
18:46 <SageLord> ah good point
18:46 <SageLord> i was thinking about that some weeks ago, and forgot about it
18:46 <epsy> and a move done by #1 which requires one of the two wings to split earlier than the other
18:46 <SageLord> hmm, interesting
18:47 <SageLord> well, i'll put a statement at the end that will ask for comments regarding other ways, so you can post those :P
18:47 <epsy> wait
18:48 <epsy> gmpf
18:48 <epsy> MaZuffeR, deleted http://mazuffer.com/temp/blockmidatk.GIF ?
18:48 <epsy> SageLord, I'll make a drawing, second
18:49 <SageLord> haha all right :P
18:51 <epsy> http://epsy.teamkilled.net:8080/~epsy/anawesomestrategy.png
18:52 <epsy> it revealed to work quite well on the average middler
18:53 <epsy> but yeah, it can be beaten, like this: http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/9193/blaag6.png
18:53 <SageLord> oh wow, nice
18:53 <SageLord> well right, but its much harder to beat it
18:54 <SageLord> thats a good idea
18:54 <epsy> or just aim in and only grind when you're in
18:54 <SageLord> yea but if you could make position one regrind slightly hard
18:55 <SageLord> but not harder than position 2 grinding him
18:55 <epsy> :P
18:55 <SageLord> then it'd be almost impossible for the center to get through
18:55 <SageLord> nice
18:55 <SageLord> i'll have to put this idea to work
18:55 <SageLord> who came up with it?
18:55 <epsy> the main point is that he can still middle as well
18:55 <epsy> MaZuffeR did
18:55 <SageLord> nice
18:55 <SageLord> good idea maz :p
18:55 <SageLord> well
18:55 <SageLord> how could he middle as well
18:56 <SageLord> ohhh
18:56 <SageLord> you mean the bottom position 1
18:56 <SageLord> nice
18:56 <SageLord> i think i'm going to forgo this post
18:56 <SageLord> i don't feel like writing it right now :P
18:57 <epsy> well, save the draft
18:57 <SageLord> yup
19:00 <epsy> "maz's kink", as named by 2020
19:00 <SageLord> haha, that's a good name for it :p
19:01 <SageLord> .tea
19:01 <hoop> epsy: do u know about the snmp package?
19:01 <tronner> SageLord: Fortress Café: Players (8/32): -»|hoop, =) ALAKAZAM =), BabyBug, Cowboy Project, madmax, Nickymook, Pink Tomatoes, ¦×¦ Lizmatic
19:01 <SageLord> nice
19:01 <Lizmatic> .tea
19:01 <tronner> Lizmatic: Fortress Café: Players (8/32): -»|hoop, =) ALAKAZAM =), BabyBug, Cowboy Project, madmax, Nickymook, Pink Tomatoes, ¦×¦ Lizmatic
19:01 <Lizmatic> come join the fun
19:01 <epsy> snmp?
19:01 <hoop> on PinkTomato server, I get this error
19:02 <epsy> it sounds like a protocol
19:02 <epsy> extra/net-snmp
19:02 <epsy>     A suite of applications used to implement SNMP v1, SNMP v2c and SNMP v3
19:02 <epsy>     using both IPv4 and IPv6
19:02 <hoop> hoop@dessert:~$ php
19:02 <hoop> PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php5/20060613+lfs/snmp.so' - /usr/lib/php5/20060613+lfs/snmp.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in Unknown on line 0
19:02 <epsy> check your modules
19:03 <PinkTomato> how do you do that? phpinfo()?
19:03 <hoop> maybe it's defined in php.in
19:03 <hoop> +i
19:04 <epsy> well, you will hardly diagnose a php crash using phpinfo() :)
19:04 <epsy> yes
19:04 <PinkTomato> lol I guess :)
19:06 <hoop> epsy: any file.php work fine with the browser, it won't work runnung script with #!/bin/php/, does it tell you anything?
19:06 <epsy> the cli doesn't work?
19:06 <epsy> where are you fetching php from?
19:06 <hoop> cli?
19:06 <PinkTomato> command line interface :)
19:06 <epsy> commandline interface
19:06 <hoop> doesnt work
19:07 <PinkTomato> that's right epsy
19:07 <PinkTomato> random error, worked before
19:07 <epsy> [19:06] <epsy>: where are you fetching php from?
19:07  * hoop doesn't know the answer
19:08  * PinkTomato also does not know 
19:08 <hoop> XD
19:08 <PinkTomato> :D
19:08 <hoop> epsy: where are you fetching php from?
19:08 <epsy> so the sky installed php on your machine?
19:08 <epsy> hoop: arch packages
19:08 <PinkTomato> apt-get install php5-cli << ubuntu archive
19:09 <epsy> ok
19:09 <hoop> ppl on #php couldnt help much :S
19:10 <epsy> beyond my scrollback
19:11 <epsy> do you have php-snmp installed?
19:11 <hoop> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/+bug/120103
19:11 <PinkTomato> it won't find it
19:11 <epsy> just got on the same bug
19:11 <epsy> it?
19:13 <PinkTomato> seems it
19:13 <epsy> I guess you have to delete some config files it seels
19:13 <epsy> what is "it"?
19:14 <PinkTomato> it >> bug 120103
19:14 <hoop> thats the error i get
19:14 <epsy> it in [19:11] <PinkTomato>: it won't find it
19:14 <epsy> ..
19:14 <PinkTomato> oh that is the php-snmp
19:14 <epsy> and the first it?
19:15 <PinkTomato> oh, apt-get install php-snmp returns cannot find package
19:15 <epsy> tried updating package lists and so forth?
19:16  * PinkTomato feels stupid, was php'5'-snmp
19:16 <epsy> my fault
19:16 <PinkTomato> works now, no idea how it got uninstalled
19:16 <hoop> :D
19:16 <PinkTomato> I read the same bug page before epsy on a google
19:16 <PinkTomato> made the same misread
19:17 <epsy> blame the ubuntu package nameing conventions
19:18 <PinkTomato> agreed, :)
19:18 <P4> 16Dec08 004620 * BabyBug pokes P4… Does tronner really have to send me PM's? :þ ← i don't want sending error messages publicly
19:18 <BabyBug> P4, Can't you tell him to notice? It's just annoying because it steals the focus window
19:18 <epsy> notice does same
19:18 <BabyBug> No it doesn't...
19:18 <epsy> it does!
19:19 <BabyBug> A notice appears in the same place as the channel chat...A PM opens a new dialog
19:19 <P4> epsy: rtfm :D
19:19 <epsy> BabyBug, no it does not appear there
19:19 <P4> BabyBug: let the dialog with tronner be opened all the time :)
19:19 <BabyBug> yes it does...
19:20 <epsy> she cba doing so, I guess
19:20 <epsy> BabyBug, here all notices appear under their own tab
19:20 <epsy> one for each server
19:21 <BabyBug> Get a proper client
19:21 <epsy> like?
19:21 <BabyBug> xchat \o/
19:21 <epsy> I'm using xchat
19:21 <P4> she uses xchat :)
19:21 <armabot> lpbugs: [308618] wrong field in Custom Connect menu
19:21 <BabyBug> Then they don't go in their own tab...
19:21 <epsy> unless you tell them to
19:22 <Lizmatic> I have to use xchat because I have mac -_- but I liked the other client better.
19:22 <P4> BabyBug: can't you set tronner to not highlight you?
19:22 <P4> Lizmatic: build it yourself
19:22 <Lizmatic> ja, tough chance
19:22 <P4> you can run anything on your mac :)
19:22 <epsy> P4, highlight != PM
19:22 <BabyBug> P4 i do have it set to not highlight me =P
19:22 <Lizmatic> P4: I can't build stuff :(
19:22 <P4> PMs and nicks on channels highlights
19:22 <P4> blinks
19:22 <P4> alarams
19:22 <P4> call it as you wish
19:22 <epsy> ok, it alarams
19:23 <P4> Lizmatic: why?
19:23 <Lizmatic> P4: I'm not a computernurd
19:23 <Lizmatic> xD
19:23 <epsy> just a wow nerd
19:23 <P4> Lizmatic: you don't need to, you just need the ability to read with understanding :)
19:23 <K-Yo> Lizmatic, anytime, someone just has to change the wiki page :P
19:24 <K-Yo> Lizmatic, I suck at doing so :p
19:24 <Lizmatic> K-Yo: someone should have the task of doing that..
19:24 <epsy> BabyBug, UI -> Channel list -> open new tab when receiving a notice
19:25 <K-Yo> Lizmatic, do you want to do it every week?
19:25 <epsy> we'd need to torture someone for that
19:25 <epsy> but yeah otherwise good idea
19:25 <Lizmatic> K-Yo: I would if I knew how
19:26 <Lizmatic> I don't think its a big task
19:26 <epsy> what wiki page are we talking about anyway?
19:27 <Lizmatic> the OM one, for signing up :P
19:27 <epsy> what's with it?
19:27 <K-Yo> Lizmatic, I can't do it: not the time, not the skills (I suck at editing a wiki page :P)
19:27 <Lizmatic> there hasnt been a new signup page created for next week
19:27 <Lizmatic> so people cant sign up basically (dunno where they do it now)
19:27 <epsy> uhm, copypasting anyone?
19:28 <Lizmatic> you?:D
19:28 <epsy> busy with other stuff
19:28 <BabyBug> bullshit, you're all just lazy
19:28 <Lizmatic> haha
19:29  * Lizmatic agrees with BabyBug on this one
19:29 <Lizmatic> um someone has to do it though..
19:29 <PinkTomato> you doing it babybug?
19:29 <BabyBug> what are you talking about even?
19:29 <BabyBug> *scrolls up*
19:29 <PinkTomato> it won't take 5 mins
19:29 <PinkTomato> I'll do it
19:29 <Lizmatic> every week pink?
19:29 <Lizmatic> :D
19:29 <epsy> who is up for copypasting something?
19:29 <PinkTomato> lol :D
19:29 <PinkTomato> as many weeks as I can remeber to do it
19:30 <K-Yo> well, it's annoying to have to do it every week
19:30 <Lizmatic> ok.. cool
19:30 <Lizmatic> tell us when you're done and i'll sign up
19:30 <BabyBug> Make a python script to do it and then just run that on a cron job \o/
19:30 <K-Yo> what about the first who wants to register does it :)
19:30 <Lizmatic> BabyBug: nerd
19:30 <Lizmatic> xDDDD
19:30 <BabyBug> Lizmatic, Shush =P
19:30 <epsy> BabyBug: python
19:30 <K-Yo> BabyBug, python
19:30 <BabyBug> epsy, Yes, you're secret lover
19:30 <BabyBug> and yours K-Yo
19:30 <K-Yo> :p
19:30 <epsy> og I are secret lover?
19:31 <Lizmatic> epsy is a secret lover?
19:31 <Lizmatic> TRON GOSSIP HMM
19:31 <BabyBug> nah epsy is just a slut
19:31 <K-Yo> hahaha
19:31 <epsy> oh yeah python..teabot
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19:35 <BabyBug> teabot phails
19:35 <epsy> yeah, somehow because of python
19:35 <BabyBug> lies it's because of you
19:35 <epsy> :(
19:36 <teabot> wh..what?
19:36 <BabyBug> You can't say it's because of python and show no proof =P
19:37 <PinkTomato> is there any details about the OM-2?
19:37 <epsy> freezes all the time!
19:37 <BabyBug> define freeze...
19:37 <epsy> not responding to anything
19:37 <BabyBug> It's the fault of the coder...not python =P
19:37 <epsy> and not outputting anything on it's own either
19:38 <epsy> BabyBug, ok so all python coders suck? :D
19:38 <Lizmatic> wtf is pyhton
19:38 <BabyBug> epsy, no...
19:38 <epsy> it's a snake
19:38 <BabyBug> Lizmatic, Scripting language =P
19:38 <epsy> teabot is made out of a snake
19:38 <epsy> snake sausage :<
19:39 <BabyBug> you're a snake sausage
19:39 <epsy> yummy
19:39 <BabyBug> nah, you've gone off
19:41 <dlh> .tea
19:41 <tronner> dlh: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): Báttlé, champ, free kill, Graphire, höMö°, madmax
19:42 <dlh> Needs more players
19:42 <PinkTomato> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Organised_Matches/Matches
19:42 <PinkTomato> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Organised_Matches/Previous_Matches
19:42 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, your numbers are a bit fudged =P
19:43 <PinkTomato> I noticed, I thought that was just my browser
19:43 <BabyBug> you fail
19:44 <PinkTomato> I'm sorry that I could not make a numbered list
19:44 <PinkTomato> correctly
19:44 <PinkTomato> It exists...
19:44 <BabyBug> so you should be
19:44  * BabyBug wonders how many no shows there will be \o/
19:45 <PinkTomato> I forgot...
19:45 <epsy> fixt
19:45 <BabyBug> Wooo go slut!
19:45 <epsy> PinkTomato, also, don't double formattings
19:45 <Lizmatic> um I cant login/register, can someone put my name?
19:45 <Lizmatic> pretty please?
19:45 <BabyBug> Nooo don't do it
19:45 <epsy> ok, will do
19:45 <BabyBug> :evil:
19:45 <Lizmatic> LOL!
19:45 <BabyBug> =(
19:46 <Lizmatic> BabyBug hates me =(
19:46 <PinkTomato> ah. I see epsy :)
19:46 <BabyBug> I do not!
19:46  * PinkTomato wondered why it looked odd
19:46 <epsy> Lizmatic, hail the pretty name!
19:48 <Lizmatic> lol :|
19:48 <epsy> :D
19:48 <Lizmatic> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=201189#201189
19:49 <PinkTomato> where is Organised_Matches/menu_items?
19:50 <Lizmatic> btw who is in charge of OM? there should be penaltys if people dont show up again..
19:51 <BabyBug> I thought no one's in charge and it's all about the majority?
19:51 <BabyBug> (which is lame)
19:51 <PinkTomato> democracies never work do they babybug :P
19:51 <BabyBug> Nope, you just have to look at the economy to find that out =P
19:54 <akira_arma> .tea
19:54 <tronner> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
19:54 <akira_arma> AWW
19:54 <akira_arma> GUYS
19:54 <akira_arma> café time!
19:55 <akira_arma> and gals..
19:55 <BabyBug> =P
19:55 <Lizmatic> girls on the internet don't exist
19:55 <akira_arma> not really
19:55 <akira_arma> well
19:55 <akira_arma> no one exists on the net
19:55 <akira_arma> it really fucks up any natural sense for relation ;)
19:56  * PinkTomato gives thanks to the person that added Previous Matches to menu_items :)
19:56 <epsy> ...
19:56 <epsy> are you even coming?
19:57 <Lizmatic> .tea
19:57 <tronner> Lizmatic: Fortress Café: Players (1/32): epsy¦×¦ (epsy@x/member)
19:57 <Lizmatic> LOL!
19:57 <akira_arma> ok in 15
19:58 <akira_arma> i didnt epxect
19:58 <Lizmatic> haha
19:58 <akira_arma> epsy
19:58 <akira_arma> to react
19:58 <epsy> is it café time or is it café time /in 15 minutes/ ?
19:58 <PinkTomato> tea
19:58 <PinkTomato> .tea
19:58 <tronner> PinkTomato: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
19:58 <BabyBug> It's cafe time after fix my bug time which is now! =D
19:59  * BabyBug looks at epsy
19:59 <epsy> blayh, I just closed arma
19:59 <Lizmatic> which bug?
19:59 <Lizmatic> D:
19:59 <BabyBug> The stupid bug that appears using ftgl 2.1.3 or something like that
19:59 <Lizmatic> what?
19:59 <Lizmatic> now in normal speak
20:00 <BabyBug> When using the latest version of a library, it causes arma to crash when browsing the servers
20:00 <epsy> #m wrtlprnft log in processes still aren't threaded on café
20:00 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
20:00 <epsy> a font rendering library
20:00 <epsy> and actually
20:00 <epsy> it's a release candidate
20:00 <epsy> not a version
20:00 <epsy> still empty
20:01 <BabyBug> OK...The latest release then....
20:01 <epsy> I just said it wasn't a release..
20:01 <BabyBug> and that's just avoiding the problem
20:01 <BabyBug> The latest release is the 2.1.3 release candidate 5. See the download page for more information.
20:01 <BabyBug> They call it a release
20:01 <BabyBug> FU
20:01 <epsy> so a release candidate is a candidate for itself?
20:02 <BabyBug> Yes
20:02 <epsy> neat
20:02 <BabyBug> Yup...So fix the bug xD
20:03 <epsy> well, I can point where the problem happens and when it happens(=with what input), but I have no clue about ftgl
20:04 <BabyBug> ><
20:04  * BabyBug is still using the old 0.3 .package version
20:06 <BabyBug> Why is it assigned to you if you have no idea about ftgl ><
20:06 <BabyBug> Silly billy
20:06 <Lizmatic> ftl?
20:06 <Lizmatic> :D
20:06 <epsy> is it?
20:06 <BabyBug> Yes
20:07 <epsy> are you even coming café?
20:07 <Lizmatic> .tea
20:07 <tronner> Lizmatic: Fortress Café: Players (2/32): Báttlé, epsy¦×¦ (epsy@x/member)
20:07 <akira_arma> yes
20:07 <akira_arma> just wait a lil biut
20:07 <akira_arma> mate!
20:07 <akira_arma> mate..
20:07 <akira_arma> japanese..
20:07 <PinkTomato> nihongo?
20:08 <PinkTomato> what that's got to do with anything :)?
20:10 <hoop> .tea
20:10 <tronner> hoop: Fortress Café: Players (4/32): BabyBug, Báttlé, cT¤K-Yo, epsy¦×¦ (epsy@x/member)
20:10  * Lizmatic yawns
20:10  * PinkTomato yawns
20:10 <PinkTomato> damn it
20:11 <hoop> anyone coming to test fortress club again :D
20:12 <Lizmatic> no it sucks
20:12 <hoop> u sucks
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20:12 <Lizmatic> no u
20:14 <K-Yo> *hoop is a noob*
20:15 <hoop> fort club is ok now :P
20:17 <K-Yo> .si club
20:17 <tronner> K-Yo: Fortress Club: Players (2/16): hoop (hoop@forums), JJBean
20:17 <BabyBug> .serv fun server
20:18 <K-Yo> well
20:18 <tronner> BabyBug: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “fun server” at the moment, sorry.
20:18 <BabyBug> well damnit
20:18 <K-Yo> .ls bab
20:18 <tronner> K-Yo: BabyBug has last been seen on Fortress Café 1 minute ago.
20:18 <Lizmatic> .tea
20:18 <tronner> Lizmatic: Fortress Café: Players (3/32): CTT_speed, cT¤K-Yo, epsy¦×¦ (epsy@x/member)
20:19 <Lizmatic> k i'm going tharr
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20:28 <Lizmatic> cafe crashed?
20:28 <Lizmatic> meh
20:28 <epsy> seems like it
20:29 <epsy> connecting
20:29 <epsy> -- --- Server died with return code 0, restarting!
20:29 <epsy> anyway it restarted
20:32 <epsy> is anyone coming back? :|
20:33 <BabyBug> lol
20:34 <BabyBug> who does know about FTGL btw? =D
20:34 <epsy> whoever put it in
20:34 <BabyBug> which was..........
20:34 <epsy> i dont know
20:35 -!- PinkTomato [n=sam@hn-33-24.brookes.ac.uk] has quit ["Leaving."]
20:35 <epsy> browse the logs
20:35 <hoop> .si club
20:35 <tronner> hoop: Fortress Club: Players (5/16): -»|$øØ M, cT¤K-Yo, ct|Puuquie, hoop (hoop@forums), JJBean
20:38 <akira_arma> :O
20:46 <BabyBug> zmanuel, wrtlprnft ----> https://bugs.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+bug/246159 ***BIG hint hint***
20:46 <teabot> Launchpad bug 246159 in armagetronad "Server browser rendering errors followed by segmentation fault." [High,Confirmed]
20:55 <Lizmatic> BabyBug is obsessed with this bug
20:56 <Lizmatic> xD
20:56 <BabyBug> it's cause the older version sucks!
20:57  * Lizmatic gently pats BabyBug
20:57 <BabyBug> =)
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21:27 <Lucifer> check your version of ftgl?
21:28 <Lucifer> I'm in kubuntu and not having any problems with the latest trunk
21:28 <Lucifer> well, I haven't update in a couple of days, either
21:28 <epsy> yeah but you don't play :>
21:28 <Lucifer> heh
21:28  * Lucifer has logged a few hours the last few days
21:28 <epsy> @l Lucifer
21:28 <epsy> @ls Lucifer
21:29 <Lucifer> .ls Lucifer
21:29 <tronner> Lucifer: timed out
21:29 <Lucifer> which bot does it?
21:29 <epsy> probably every bot out here
21:29 <Lucifer> .help ls
21:29 <tronner> Lucifer: (ls <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "lastseen $*".
21:29 <teabot> epsy: Lucifer has last been seen on ¦×¦.Team.Sumo.Server 1 day 4 hours 28 minutes ago.
21:29 <BabyBug> Lucifer, i have the release candidate, the problem is, i can't compile an older version of ftgl...
21:29 <epsy> ah
21:29 <BabyBug> release candidate of ftgl that is
21:30 <epsy> glad you've been there :)
21:30 <Lucifer> er, that wasn't the last I played, though
21:30 <Lucifer> maybe
21:30 <Lucifer> hmmm, this caffeine withdrawal has screwed up my time sense
21:31 <BabyBug> Lucifer, Which version of Kubuntu do you have btw?
21:31 <Lucifer> heh, fuck if I know :)
21:31 <epsy> 5.06
21:31 <BabyBug> ><
21:31 <Lucifer> I haven't upgraded to the newest release, I don't think
21:32 <Lucifer> did the new release come out yet?
21:32 <BabyBug> lsb_release -a
21:32 <BabyBug> type that =P
21:32 <BabyBug> 8.10 is the latest version...but some people have considered it a step backwards...
21:32 <BabyBug> I'm on 9.04 atm =)
21:32 <epsy> lsd_release: command not found
21:32 <BabyBug> b epsy
21:32 <BabyBug> a b!
21:32 <BabyBug> not d!
21:32 <epsy> a d, not a d, yeah
21:33 <Lucifer> 8.04
21:33 <BabyBug> ah =)
21:33 <Lucifer> I don't know if I can upgrade my Kubuntu without upgrading hardware, because my computer's too slow for KDE4
21:33 -!- BabyBug [n=BabyBug@] has left #armagetron ["Leaving"]
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21:33 <epsy> I seriousely hope your uptime compensates your lack of upgrading
21:33 <BabyBug> stupid keyboard shortcuts ><
21:34  * Lizmatic cuddles her iMac
21:34 <BabyBug> booooooooooo
21:34 <epsy> uhm
21:34 <Lizmatic> oh, did you want one?
21:34 <epsy> Lizmatic, you've just become an apple fangirl
21:34 <sinewav> haha
21:34 <BabyBug> iMac's are crap, and now they're stealing my cuddles =(
21:34 <Lucifer> Lizmatic: I'll take it, if it'll run linux
21:35 <epsy> therefore, you will be kicked from this place, and from xclan
21:35 <sinewav> Bill Gates is not an ass.
21:35 <Lizmatic> macs r supeiour!!!1!
21:35 <Lizmatic> pff fine, I'll just make a new clan
21:35 <epsy> STEVES ARE ASSES
21:35 <Lizmatic> .. |a|
21:35 <Lizmatic> the apple clan
21:35 <Lucifer> ALL STEVES
21:35 <Lizmatic> only mac users are allowed in
21:35 <BabyBug> i'll join the |a| \o/
21:35 <Lizmatic> LOL!
21:35  * BabyBug buys a mac
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21:36  * Lizmatic hugs BabyBug tightly
21:36 <BabyBug> =D
21:36 <Lucifer> Lizmatic is going to have the smallest clan in the world
21:36 <Lucifer> hey, if you two start kissing, will you take pictures for us?
21:36 <epsy> luci remember this is all logged..remember
21:36 <Lizmatic> >:(
21:36 <BabyBug> pictures are lame...videos rock \o/
21:36 <Lizmatic> haha
21:37 <epsy> \o/ ?
21:37 <BabyBug> It's a person cheering ><
21:37 <sinewav> http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/stpdrckr420/LESBIANS.png
21:37 <Lucifer> epsy: heh, afaik, they're both well over 18
21:37 <hoax> vids & pics or gtfo
21:37 <BabyBug> Lucifer, no we're not...
21:37 <Lucifer> no?
21:37 <BabyBug> I'm currently 18...not over 18!!
21:37 <Lizmatic> same
21:38 <Lucifer> heh, seems like a few weeks ago you were telling us you were 30s
21:38 <Lucifer> ...
21:38 <BabyBug> O.o
21:38 <Lizmatic> :|
21:38 <Lizmatic> has my love betrayed me?
21:38 <epsy> we're grown downs!
21:38 <Lucifer> damn kids, I swearuh
21:38 <BabyBug> When did i say that? lmao
21:38 <Lucifer> where's the liz that I thought lizmatic was?
21:38 <BabyBug> liza?
21:38 <Lucifer> no, FA clan lady
21:39 <epsy> Genki by any chance?
21:39 <Lucifer> NO
21:39 <epsy> oh no that was KoR
21:39  * epsy is lost with trem clans
21:39 <Lucifer> uses variations of the word lizard for most of her irc names
21:39 <epsy> #stats
21:39 <armabot> epsy: I have 39 registered users with 37 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 1 admin.
21:40 <Lizmatic> there was a girl in FA called supergirl but I don't know any other liz's aside from |x| liza
21:40 <epsy> do not know
21:40 <MaZuffeR> lizz aka wizzee aka dragonheart
21:40 <epsy> lol
21:40 <Lizmatic> liza should go back to flash
21:40 <Lucifer> MaZuffeR: thanks, that's the one :)
21:40 <Lizmatic> I was first!
21:41 <Lizmatic> *although my name isn't really liz, LOL*
21:41 <BabyBug> It's Biz!
21:41 <BabyBug> x)
21:41 <epsy> so you were already playing wow as Liz at the age of 4 ? :D
21:41 -!- gregeh [n=gregeh@S01060018f8d266df.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #armagetron
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21:42 <bammes> hi
21:42 <epsy> hello
21:42 <hoax> liza is the female equivalent of alex on this game
21:42 <epsy> is that a compliment?
21:42 <hoax> way too many
21:42 <bammes> i have to set up a sty server for a clan
21:42 <Lucifer> who's alex?
21:42 <bammes> but i have no idea where to get the source to compile
21:42 <Lucifer> bammes: we have something in common, then
21:43 <epsy> @aawikis sty ctf bzr
21:43 <teabot> epsy: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Sty - Sty - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
21:43 <epsy> that should be it - yes it is
21:43 <bammes> i did this tutorial
21:43 <epsy> yeah
21:43 <Lucifer> it appears that my brain has been erasing memories that happened before November 4th of this year
21:43 <epsy> where do you get stuck?
21:43 <BabyBug> Lucifer, Well that's not good O.o
21:43 <bammes> up to the point i recognized that this installs the client
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21:44 <epsy> what OS are you compiling with?
21:44 <bammes> debian
21:44 <Lucifer> BabyBug: yes it is, that means I won't have to remember what my ex looks like naked
21:44 <Lizmatic> great, back to nerd talk
21:44 <epsy> did you use the --enable-dedicated switch?
21:44 <Lizmatic> Lucifer: youve seen naked girls? LIES
21:44 <Lucifer> that's a memory I'd like to wipe
21:44 <epsy> (on the ./configure line)
21:44 <bammes> epsy: thank you ;)
21:44 <BabyBug> lol Lizmatic
21:44 <bammes> did not now of the switch
21:44 <BabyBug> How come Lucifer? She fugly? =x
21:44 <Lucifer> Lizmatic: more than that, I have kids of my own :)
21:44 <bammes> this explains everything :)
21:45 <Lucifer> BabyBug: no, she's hot, but damned annoying
21:45 <Lucifer> put that in your pipe and smoke it :)
21:45 <epsy> --disable-glout should do it as well, but --enable-dedicated is way less confusing
21:45 <BabyBug> Lucifer, oooooooooooo....doesn't the nakedness hide the annoyance? =P
21:45 <epsy> (but will only work in recent checkouts)
21:45 <Lucifer> It did for 13 years, but obviously not forever
21:45 <BabyBug> ><
21:47 <bammes>  ./configure --prefix=${HOME} --disable-glout --enable-automakedefaults --disable-sysinstall --disable-etc --disable-useradd --disable-initscripts --enable-dedicated
21:47 <bammes> but make finds no makefile
21:47 <bammes> and there is in fact no makefile
21:47 <dlh> did  you ./bootstrap
21:47 <dlh> .sh
21:47 <bammes> yes
21:48 <BabyBug> Did the configure succeed bammes?
21:48 <epsy> did ./configure output anything? use armagetron.pastebin.com to paste
21:48 -!- K-Yo [n=K-Yo@unaffiliated/k-yo] has quit ["Quitte"]
21:48 <dlh> also paste the output of ./bootstrap.sh. I'm gonna guess it is an ancient version of automake.
21:49 <Lizmatic> BabyBug is annoying too but she's hot naked so I tolerate her
21:49 <BabyBug> :o
21:50 <epsy> god thank durka..he's the only one to ever put change summary messages on the wiki..
21:50 <epsy> "stuff"
21:50 <bammes> http://armagetron.bammestechtalk.de/errorlog.txt
21:50 <dlh> configure: error: conditional "AMDEP" was never defined.
21:50 <epsy> gah
21:50 <bammes> dlh: automake version from etch
21:50 <Lucifer> Lizmatic: it took me 13 years to learn that lesson, please don't take 13 years to learn it for yourself :)
21:51 <epsy> zmanuel, ping, r950 gets in the way again :<
21:51 <epsy> bammes: bzr merge 950..949 lp:~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-work
21:51 <Lucifer> well, I just found something that says that your body is no longer addicted to caffeine 9 days after you stop taking it
21:52 <epsy> dlh, did you get anywhere near to a fix with the AMDEP issue?
21:53 <bammes> epsy: how to deal with bazaar?
21:53 <bammes> i'm not into it
21:53 <bammes> i normally use svn
21:53 <epsy> woops
21:53 <epsy> bzr merge -r 950..949 lp:~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-work
21:53 <epsy> forgot that little -r
21:54 <bammes> then lets bootstrap again
21:54 <epsy> it will merge the changes from r950 to r949 (ie. revert) from the main 0.2.8 branch
21:54 <epsy> on your tree, that said
21:54 <bammes> i c
21:54 <bammes> this output looks better
21:54 <dlh> epsy: no, I didn't. I scanned through the macro that is causing the error (AX_CFLAGS_GCC_OPTION) but m4 makes my eyes bleed.
21:55 <bammes> i'll pipe it into the errorlog
21:55 <bammes> http://armagetron.bammestechtalk.de/errorlog.txt
21:55 <epsy> dlh, me too :<
21:55 <bammes> make runs...
21:56 <Lucifer> oh good, I'm not the only one who hhas trouble with m4
21:56 <sinewav> .weather 60130
21:56 <tronner> sinewav: The current temperature in Oak Park, IL, Oak Park, Illinois is 16.7°F (2:56 PM CST on December 16, 2008). Conditions: Snow. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 12.2°F. Windchill: 17.6°F. Pressure: 30.34 in 1027.3 hPa (Falling).  Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 6 am CST Wednesday...
21:56 <epsy> <insert autotools vs cmake vs scons fight here>
21:56 <sinewav> ...
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21:57 <bammes> hope nobody complies about bad webserverperformance while compiling :D
21:57 <BabyBug> scons wins cause google use it \o/
21:57 <K-Yo> #bzr
21:57 <armabot> bzr co lp:armagetronad (for trunk) bzr co lp:armagetronad/0.2.8 (for 0.2.8 trunk) (bzr >= 1.0)
21:57 <epsy> bammes, hrhr, I know that feeling
21:57 <epsy> google?
21:57 <BabyBug> epsy, the linux port of chromium..uses scons =P
21:57 <dlh> I like how the AX_CFLAGS_GCC_OPTION macro has big sections copied & pasted with a few little things changed. That's the power of m4.
21:57 <epsy> 0.2.8 trunk? who wrote that?
21:58 <bammes> epsy: 30 apache vhosts...
21:58 <epsy> bammes, maybe not to that extent :)
21:58 <epsy> #help bzr
21:58 <bammes> someone should build an deb file for sty server
21:58 <armabot> epsy: (bzr <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo bzr co lp:armagetronad (for trunk) bzr co lp:armagetronad/0.2.8 (for 0.2.8 trunk) (bzr >= 1.0)".
21:58 <epsy> bammes, we do not really support the sty branch, through it is vaguely maintained
21:59 <bammes> ok
21:59 <epsy> #alias add bzr  "echo bzr co lp:armagetronad (for trunk) bzr co lp:armagetronad/0.2.8 (for 0.2.8)"
21:59 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
21:59 <bammes> is some of you guys involved in the debian development?
21:59 <P4> bammes: crazy-tronners develop the sty+ct at most. ask them :)
21:59 <epsy> well, those that are running a debian/-based distro
22:01 <bammes> and where to find the f**** binary :D
22:01 -!- Lucifer [n=satan@cpe-70-113-115-39.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)]
22:01 <epsy> either it is symlicked as armagetronad-dedicated either it's at src/armagetronad_main
22:01 <epsy> but you should really use make install
22:02 <epsy> cf bug 306245, for example
22:02 <teabot> Launchpad bug 306245 in armagetronad "Text output errors - possibly spec mode related" [Low,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/306245
22:03 <Lizmatic> .tea
22:03 <tronner> Lizmatic: Fortress Café: Players (3/32): ||, ¦×¦ Lizmatic
22:03 <bammes> now it presents an language error
22:04 <epsy> did you use make install?
22:04 <bammes> yes
22:04 <bammes> i did
22:04 <bammes> no
22:04 <epsy> ah? prefix?
22:04 <bammes> i did not -.-
22:05 <epsy> so you just copied the binary? wont work
22:05 <bammes> i tried to execute it at its place
22:07 <epsy> use make run for this
22:08 <epsy> oh yeah, make run should create the symlink
22:08 -!- zmanuel [n=manuel@p50872F35.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)]
22:10 <K-Yo> xx@xx:~/armagetron$ bzr co lp:armagetronad/0.2.8
22:10 <K-Yo> bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: /home/xx/armagetron/lp:armagetronad/0.2.8/
22:10 <K-Yo> any Idea?
22:11 <epsy> OK I put it back..
22:11 <epsy> #alias add bzr  "echo bzr co lp:armagetronad (for trunk) bzr co lp:armagetronad/0.2.8 (for 0.2.8) (bzr >= 1.0)"
22:11 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
22:12 <wrtlprnft> epsy: grml, this is a mess. Both zthread and libm work, but the stupid configure scripts won't detect them…
22:13 <epsy> CXXFLAGS="-fpermissive" --disable-zthreadtest
22:13 <wrtlprnft> yeah, that appears to work
22:13 <epsy> originally, the libm error came from zthread messing up
22:14 <wrtlprnft> well, it's still there
22:14 <epsy> so..you didn't upgrade zthread?
22:14 <wrtlprnft> (the conftest fails at linking time because of some c++ symbols)
22:15 <wrtlprnft> maybe i should reemerge gcc and see if that helps
22:15 <epsy> well, it worked fine with my own zthread build for fts and xts
22:15 <wrtlprnft> the thing is, i tried some crazy stuff while the server was down
22:15 <epsy> heh
22:15 <wrtlprnft> including downgrading everything to <gcc-4
22:16 <akira_arma> .tea
22:16 <tronner> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (4/32): -=VcL.Gazelle, MaZuffeR, Player 1, WwA | Numcuck
22:16 <epsy> actually..
22:16 <epsy> #alias add bzr  "echo bzr co lp:armagetronad (for trunk) bzr co lp:armagetronad/0.2.8 (for 0.2.8) (bzr >= 1.4)"
22:16 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
22:16 <wrtlprnft> (because booting in qemu failed due to invalid instructions i figured some package that was originally built with gcc3 had been rebuilt with gcc4)
22:17 <bammes> make run gets stuck in
22:17 <bammes> [0] Bound socket to *.*.*.*:4534.
22:17 <bammes> (gameserver are not my love)
22:18 <epsy> that means the server found a port for itself and that it is ready to listen for connect attempts
22:18 <epsy> to sum up, the server is started
22:18 <bammes> ok :)
22:18 <epsy> if you want to quit the server, type quit
22:18 <bammes> someone here to test?
22:19 <epsy> IP?
22:19 <bammes> bammestechtalk.de
22:20 <bammes> seems to work
22:20 <bammes> the server uses my old confs from /etc/armagetron/ ?
22:20 <epsy> if you use it from this place, it will use what's in config/
22:21 <bammes> ok
22:21 <bammes> thanks to you guys!
22:22 <epsy> considering you have used --disable-etc, even if you make install it, it won't look there
22:22 <epsy> yw
22:22 <bammes> i normally have nothing to do with gaming stuff, but a friend of mine who is a clan leader asked me to host a little server on my root
22:24 <armabot> lpbugs: [306245] Text output errors
22:25 <epsy> no armabot that is not a new bug :<
22:25 <BabyBug> fail
22:25 <epsy> yet python fails again, how sad
22:28 <Lizmatic> TaZ 1v1'd me in sumo.. he said 'ill shut you up right now' he lost 2 matches then left saying I hacked....
22:28 <Lizmatic> epic fail
22:29 <BabyBug> lol
22:29 -!- TaZ [i=4aeb0b23@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-760ca9dffe91d044] has joined #armagetron
22:29 <TaZ> Dear Lizmatic:  To bad I beat you in that 1v1.
22:30 <TaZ> btw hi everyone
22:30 <BabyBug> That wasn't predictable
22:30 <TaZ> Ya, it wasn;t
22:30 <epsy> LOL
22:30 <TaZ> sActaully it was
22:30 <TaZ> Americans>Euros
22:30 <TaZ> anyway...how is everyone?
22:30 <epsy> do I really need to paste the two lines written right before you came in or can you check the logs yourself?
22:30 <TaZ> And BabyBug, you are mean
22:31 <BabyBug> TaZ, I'm not mean, i just speak the truth.
22:31 <TaZ> You told me you would stab me :<
22:31 <BabyBug> I'd stab you, chop you up and feed you to pigs
22:31 <TaZ> lul
22:31 <Lizmatic> okay, someone check logs of ww team..
22:31 <Lizmatic> I won, now you're gonna lie about it?
22:31 <TaZ> How about Liz left the match too
22:31 <epsy> :D
22:32 <Lizmatic> yes I left because i WON
22:32 <Lizmatic> xD
22:32 <TaZ> You won one, then I won one
22:32 <Lizmatic> no you did not..
22:32 <TaZ> No you didn't!
22:32 <Lizmatic> Okay taz
22:32 <TaZ> You started making excuses then left
22:32 <epsy> when he writes won he means left
22:32 <TaZ> no, it's ok Lizmatic
22:32 <Lizmatic> Okay taz
22:32 <TaZ> No No, okay Lizmatic
22:32 <Lizmatic> so if you won "one", then why say you won the 1v1?
22:32 <epsy> NO, IT'S OKAI
22:33 <Lizmatic> your lies are getting doubled there, taz
22:33 <Lizmatic> FAILLLL
22:33 <BabyBug> OMG NOWAI!! IT'S OKAI!?!?
22:33 <epsy> NO, IT'S OKAI
22:33 <TaZ> Lizmatic, I'm no liar, liar.
22:33 <Lizmatic> haha, okay, nobody believes you
22:33 -!- Lucifer [n=satan@cpe-70-113-115-39.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
22:33 <TaZ> Pssh, like I would care.
22:33 <Lizmatic> you come in here expecting people to care with your big announcement
22:33 <Lizmatic> so yes, you do care
22:34 <TaZ> Only because you talk so much shit
22:34 <Lizmatic> fail#3 \o/
22:34 <TaZ> And can't back it up
22:34 <TaZ> s:o
22:34 <Lucifer> there's a dumb argument going on and I'm missing it?
22:34 <epsy> yeah
22:34 <TaZ> Yes
22:34 <TaZ> Lucifer
22:34 <Lizmatic> Epsy, can me and taz use x team for a 1v1?
22:34 <Lizmatic> to settle it once and for all
22:34 <TaZ> Let's do it then!
22:34 <Lucifer> you should use swords
22:34 <TaZ> I'll own you again
22:34 <epsy> it's Catholicism vs Atheism
22:34 <epsy> er
22:34 <epsy> I mean Liar vs Non liar
22:34 <Lizmatic> erm sure taz
22:34 <Lizmatic> epsy, ?
22:35 <TaZ> And let's have a mediator
22:35 <epsy> Lizmatic, as long as it's empty, please do
22:35 <Lizmatic> it is empty, but can you lock it after we're in?
22:35 <Lucifer> yeah, the only Truth is a core dump
22:35 <epsy> you can do that yourself..
22:35 <Lizmatic> how?
22:35 <epsy>  /admin max_clients 0
22:35 <TaZ> We are going to need screenshots, in case some(Lizmatic) decides to lie.
22:35 <epsy> I have logs
22:35 <TaZ> Lizmatic=nub
22:35 <Lucifer> Lizmatic's not going to lie anyway
22:36 <TaZ> LOL!
22:36 <Lucifer> epsy: is it really catholicism vs atheism?
22:36 <TaZ> Are you serious?
22:36 <Lucifer> TaZ: It's obvious who the smeghead is here
22:36 <Lizmatic> ok, taz, go in x team
22:36 <epsy> no, in fact it was I won vs NO I won
22:36 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r956 Ignore all .DS_Store files
22:36 <Lizmatic> goo xteam
22:36 <TaZ> Lucifer, you hate me anyway..xD
22:36 <TaZ> After I called you SP~Lucifer
22:36 <Lizmatic> ..go x team you dimwit
22:36 <TaZ> hold on dumbone
22:37 <Lucifer> I don't hate trolls, I keep them as pets :)
22:37 <Lizmatic> babybug, come in and spec ok?
22:37  * BabyBug comes
22:37 <Lizmatic> good girl
22:37 <epsy> logs are rolling on my screen
22:37 <TaZ> wait
22:37 <TaZ> Can we make sure no one admin slaps?
22:37 <epsy> Thorn: WAIT NO
22:37 <TaZ> epsy
22:37 <epsy> just watch the logs
22:37 <Lizmatic> -_-
22:37 <TaZ> ok
22:38 <Lucifer> "wait, can I load this down with so much crap that we don't actually fight and settle it?"
22:38 <TaZ> will u hold on?
22:38 <TaZ> Geez
22:38 <epsy> but well, you gave me an idea
22:38 <Lucifer> "I'm feeling a little insecure, so I want to make sure I've inserted enough excuses in advance that I can claim it wasn't fair"
22:39 <Lucifer> (don't worry TaZ, I can speak for you just fine)
22:39 <epsy> OMG NOOO LIZ DIED
22:39 <BabyBug> IRC should so have a votekick system =D
22:40 <BabyBug> Lucifer, make a bot..give it ops =D
22:40 <epsy> @polls
22:40 <epsy> whatever was that command
22:41 <BabyBug> @poll
22:41 <Lucifer> BabyBug: no, I'm the kind of admin that's so insecure about being vote kicked that I won't do it
22:41 <teabot> BabyBug: (poll [<channel>] <id>) -- Displays the poll question and options for the given poll id. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
22:42 <bammes> without any trigger in make install the stats will be created in installdir/var/ ?
22:42 <BabyBug> Lucifer, safe guard yourself?
22:42 <BabyBug> :P
22:42 <epsy> [4 TS=2008/12/16-22:42:32 IP=******************] -=VcL.TaZ: What was that lag?
22:43 <epsy> bammes, yes
22:44 <Lucifer> there's a commandline option to put stats somewhere else, though
22:44 <epsy>  --vardir
22:44 <epsy> -=VcL.TaZ: First legit kill
22:44 <epsy> LOL
22:45 <BabyBug> what a turd bucket
22:46 <hoop> cafe anyone
22:46 <Lucifer> gotta wait for a torrent to finish, sorry
22:47 <epsy> you should play MrBougo's armatorrent
22:48 <Lucifer> er, what's that?
22:48 <epsy> a quote in armabot's db
22:48 <Lucifer> #q
22:48 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #12: "'ebuild blah portage rocks emerge hotplug coldplig - armabot mashuffle'" (added by n54 at 05:44 PM, March 29, 2006)
22:49 <Lucifer> #q
22:49 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #31: "<Fonkay> #eliza you are stupid <armabot> Fonkay: Why do you say i are stupid?" (added by Vanhayes at 01:05 AM, November 02, 2006)
22:49 <Lucifer> #q
22:49 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #1: "Was this compiled by our friend Sum Ting Wong? --WallyWallWhackr" (added by Lucifer_arma at 06:37 AM, March 24, 2006)
22:49 <Lucifer> #q
22:49 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #74: "Pathetique: I find it funny how ivantis can write C++ but has no clue how to actually write it." (added by ct|kyle at 09:07 PM, July 28, 2008)
22:49 <epsy> #list quote
22:49 <armabot> epsy: add, change, get, random, remove, search, and stats
22:49 <Lucifer> #q
22:49 <epsy> #quote search movie
22:49 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #32: "i2020> sure you can... who told you that, little lukie wookie" (added by spidey at 07:34 PM, November 05, 2006)
22:49 <armabot> epsy: No matching quotes were found.
22:49 <epsy> #quote search film
22:49 <Lucifer> #q
22:49 <armabot> epsy: 1 found: #61: "<MrBougo> amragetron p2p client, with a game..."
22:49 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #4: "left vertical bar is brakes, right one is an early-90s roleplaying game made by White Wolf before they went all Magic: The Gathering happy -- armabot (markov)" (added by a user that is no longer registered at 06:24 AM, March 27, 2006)
22:49 <epsy> #quote get 61
22:49 <armabot> epsy: Quote #61: "<MrBougo> amragetron p2p client, with a game inside and both would interact: you get a better ratio when you kill people, stay in the zone to keep downloading! the first team who downloaded the whole film wins" (added by epsy at 03:39 PM, October 27, 2007)
22:50 <Lucifer> #q
22:50 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #36: "<Durka> HEY im a n00b" (added by spidey at 08:45 PM, December 07, 2006)
22:50 <Lucifer> haha, I like MrBougo (hi there!) 's idea
22:50 <Lucifer> #q
22:50 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #76: "<Lucifer> vista doesn't have the kind of boobs that KDE has" (added by ivantis at 05:54 AM, July 31, 2008)
22:50 <MrBougo> (hi there!)
22:50 <Lucifer> #q
22:50 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #49: "<ToddBot> #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo" (added by epsy at 03:52 PM, July 09, 2007)
22:50 <epsy> )hi there!(
22:50 <Lucifer> #q
22:50 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #59: "-Kick- You have been kicked from channel #armagetron by luke-jr (sorry)." (added by Lucifer_arma at 05:33 AM, September 17, 2007)
22:51 <Lucifer> #q
22:51 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #63: "GodTodd: definition of great : agrees with luke-jr's views" (added by ct|kyle at 04:27 AM, November 17, 2007)
22:51 <Lucifer> #q
22:51 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #51: "<DrJoeTron> speaking of microsoft, i decided to actually give the zune the time of day and looked at what the hell it really does, and wow, way to take something with alot of potential and just destroy it microsoft <Lucifer_arma> that's what they've always done ... take electric potential and turn it into waste" (added by epsy at 10:40 PM, July 13, 2007)
22:51 <Lucifer> #q
22:52 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #17: "And I hate dying nearly as much as I hate Vanhayes. --featherfcuk" (added by Lucifer_arma at 02:02 AM, June 14, 2006)
22:52 <Lucifer> #q
22:52 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #28: "i can't speel either --Fonkay" (added by Lucifer_arma at 07:38 AM, October 28, 2006)
22:52 <Lucifer> #q
22:52 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #3: "um, try spelling it wirght :) -- Lucifer" (added by Lucifer_arma at 06:22 AM, March 27, 2006)
22:52 <Lucifer> where are all the 2008 quotes?
22:52 <epsy> >#50
22:52 <Lucifer> the quote module should have a way to list quotes by date
22:52 <epsy> #list quote
22:52 <Lucifer> no, #51 is 2007
22:52 <armabot> epsy: add, change, get, random, remove, search, and stats
22:53 <epsy> #quote get 60
22:53 <Lucifer> #quote stats
22:53 <armabot> Lucifer: There are 75 quotes in my database.
22:53 <armabot> epsy: Quote #60: "<luke-jr> fanatics are good" (added by epsy at 10:27 AM, September 23, 2007)
22:53 -!- zmanuel [n=manuel@p50872F35.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron
22:53 <Lucifer> #quote get 75
22:53 <epsy> #quote get 70
22:53 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #75: "<ivantis> #toast <armabot> omg STFU ivantis" (added by epsy at 12:35 AM, July 31, 2008)
22:53 <armabot> epsy: Quote #70: "(20:09:38) luke-jr: StickyNoob: what does that have to do with your dick?" (added by K-Yo at 08:15 PM, February 20, 2008)
22:53 <epsy> #quote get 65
22:53 <armabot> epsy: Quote #65: "<Ady666> armabot, 1+2? [...] <Ady666> its thinking" (added by epsy at 12:14 AM, December 22, 2007)
22:53 <epsy> #quote get 67
22:53 <armabot> epsy: Quote #67: "browser? like xp, vista, mac? stuff like that? cause i have a vista~Neutrino" (added by ct|kyle at 04:29 AM, December 27, 2007)
22:53 <epsy> #quote get 68
22:53 <armabot> epsy: Quote #68: "[12:54] <luke-jr> …. ok, you win" (added by GodTodd at 07:55 PM, January 17, 2008)
22:53 <BabyBug> \o/ Lizmatic won
22:53 <epsy> 68 it is
22:53 <Lucifer> liar!
22:53 <sinewav> Best of how many?
22:54 <Lucifer> #quote get 69
22:54 <Lizmatic> there
22:54 <epsy> 2:0
22:54 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #69: "gentoo ebuild is as broken as luke-jr himself :D ~xfroggy" (added by ct|kyle at 06:23 PM, January 26, 2008)
22:54 <epsy> for Lizmatic :þ
22:54 <Lucifer> #quote get 70
22:54 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #70: "(20:09:38) luke-jr: StickyNoob: what does that have to do with your dick?" (added by K-Yo at 08:15 PM, February 20, 2008)
22:54 <Lucifer> #quote get 71
22:54 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #71: "<Monkey_arma> to be fair the mess the wiki is in, i cant tell spam from actual content" (added by noob7 at 10:50 PM, April 14, 2008)
22:54 <BabyBug> Lucifer!!!
22:54 <Lucifer> #quote get 72
22:54 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #72: "epsy puts himself in the middle and eats it.  --epsy" (added by Lucifer_arma at 12:48 AM, July 28, 2008)
22:54 <BabyBug> PM the bot
22:54 <BabyBug> lol
22:54 <TaZ> Well Lizmatic beat.  I am not one too complain about lag, so I say to you, good match Liz.
22:54 <Lucifer> #quote get 73
22:54 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #73: "<Lucifer> if you don't want to nitpick, don't talk to luke-jr (hi there!)" (added by epsy at 12:52 AM, July 28, 2008)
22:54 <Lucifer> #quote get 74
22:54 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #74: "Pathetique: I find it funny how ivantis can write C++ but has no clue how to actually write it." (added by ct|kyle at 09:07 PM, July 28, 2008)
22:54 <Lucifer> #quote get 76
22:54 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #76: "<Lucifer> vista doesn't have the kind of boobs that KDE has" (added by ivantis at 05:54 AM, July 31, 2008)
22:54 <BabyBug> /kick Lucifer shush!
22:54 <Lizmatic> taz, I beat you in an american server and an european server
22:55 <Lizmatic> so stfu about lag..
22:55 <epsy> BabyBug, do you have anything to say? :D
22:55 <Lucifer> #quote get 77
22:55 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #77: "scool is easy it just makes me board --ct|kyle" (added by Lucifer_arma at 06:04 AM, July 31, 2008)
22:55 <TaZ> I said gm Lizmatic, gtf over yourslef.
22:55 <Lucifer> #quote get 78
22:55 <Lizmatic> lucifer stop it please :D
22:55 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #78: "<Lucifer> we all live in the other submarine, the other submarine, the other submarine" (added by epsy at 08:20 PM, August 01, 2008)
22:55 <BabyBug> epsy, my original statement about what i would do to him still stands =)
22:55 <Lucifer> oh fine
22:55 <Lucifer> I just wanted to see all the quotes added this year
22:55 <Lizmatic> TaZ: gm? I was quite bored, but thx anyway
22:55 <BabyBug> Oh right so you listen to her but not me?
22:55 <MrBougo> #quote 79
22:55 <MrBougo> :)
22:55 <TaZ> :o, where;s my quote?
22:55 <BabyBug> No more cuddles Lucifer!
22:55 <MrBougo> #quote get 79
22:55 <armabot> MrBougo: Error: There is no Quote with id #79 in my database for #armagetron.
22:55 <TaZ> No hard feeling Liz?
22:55 <MrBougo> I don't do it as good as Lucifer it seems :p
22:55 <epsy> #quote get 80
22:55 <Lizmatic> I still think you're a loser
22:55 <armabot> epsy: Quote #80: "<luke-jr> Intel GPU pwns <luke-jr> CPU sucks" (added by epsy at 11:35 PM, August 04, 2008)
22:55 <Lizmatic> but now you're a bigger one :D
22:56 <TaZ> We will be those people that hate each other, but are still cool
22:56 <Lucifer> she will, but you won't
22:56 <TaZ> xD stfu
22:56 <epsy> #quote get 81
22:56 <armabot> epsy: Quote #81: "GodTodd: that lightning is just God aiming for luke-jr and missing" (added by ct|kyle at 07:50 AM, August 05, 2008)
22:56 <BabyBug> epsy.........
22:56 <MrBougo> #quote get 82
22:56 <epsy> #quote get 82
22:56 <armabot> MrBougo: Quote #82: "<TaZ> Ady-Lucifer: Nah, you're nicer than lucifer though" (added by K-Yo at 04:46 PM, December 13, 2008)
22:56 <Lucifer> haha
22:56 <armabot> epsy: Quote #82: "<TaZ> Ady-Lucifer: Nah, you're nicer than lucifer though" (added by K-Yo at 04:46 PM, December 13, 2008)
22:56 <epsy> oops
22:56 <epsy> #quote get 83
22:56 <armabot> epsy: Error: There is no Quote with id #83 in my database for #armagetron.
22:56 <TaZ> haha
22:56 <MrBougo> #quote get 84
22:56 <BabyBug> oh thank god
22:56 <armabot> MrBougo: Error: There is no Quote with id #84 in my database for #armagetron.
22:56 <MrBougo> I do even epsy does odd
22:56 <Lizmatic> wtfzomg ady-lucifer and lucifer aren't the same guys?!"!!!?!
22:56 <epsy> #quote get 85
22:56 <MrBougo> oh wait
22:56 <MrBougo> aw
22:57 <armabot> epsy: Error: There is no Quote with id #85 in my database for #armagetron.
22:57 <TaZ> no
22:57 <Lucifer> Lizmatic: no, we're not
22:57 <MrBougo> well we can continue if you wish
22:57 <MrBougo> #quote get 86
22:57 <armabot> MrBougo: Error: There is no Quote with id #86 in my database for #armagetron.
22:57 <epsy> #quote get 87
22:57 <armabot> epsy: Error: There is no Quote with id #87 in my database for #armagetron.
22:57 <MrBougo> I'll end when epsy ends :p
22:57 <Lucifer> #quote add "<Lizmatic> wtfzomg ady-lucifer and lucifer aren't the same guys?!"!!!?!"
22:57 <armabot> Lucifer: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
22:57 <epsy> me too
22:57  * Lizmatic cries and throws a tantrum
22:57 <MrBougo> #quote get 83
22:57 <armabot> MrBougo: Error: There is no Quote with id #83 in my database for #armagetron.
22:57 <dlh> Start from 0 again. I missed a few.
22:57 <Lucifer> #quote add "<Lizmatic> wtfzomg ady-lucifer and lucifer aren't the same guys?!"!!!?!"
22:57 <armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.  Quote #83 added.
22:57 <MrBougo> uh
22:57 <MrBougo> where is it then
22:57 <BabyBug> Lizmatic, Don't do a Flex!
22:57 <BabyBug> =P
22:57 <Lizmatic> :DDDD
22:57 <sinewav> giving me a headache...
22:57 <MrBougo> #quote get 83
22:57 <armabot> MrBougo: Quote #83: "<Lizmatic> wtfzomg ady-lucifer and lucifer aren't the same guys?! !!!?!"" (added by Lucifer_arma at 10:57 PM, December 16, 2008)
22:58 <TaZ> lol
22:58 <TaZ> How to add quote again?
22:58 <MrBougo> like Lucifer did :p
22:58 <TaZ> Americans > Europeans
22:59 <MrBougo> in count, yeah, probably
22:59 <Lucifer> shit, I just realized I haven't closed my other account and , er...
22:59 <epsy> MrBougo, not even
22:59 <TaZ> #quote add "<TaZ>	Americans > Europeans."
22:59 <armabot> TaZ: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
22:59 <TaZ> frik
22:59 <MrBougo> epsy, not even?
22:59 <MrBougo> aw
22:59 <epsy> TaZ, that means it doesn't like your quote
23:00 <Lizmatic> #quote add: "<TaZ> Europeans > Americans."
23:00 <TaZ> xD
23:00 <epsy> MrBougo, yeah, we're more
23:00 <MrBougo> neat
23:00 <MrBougo> Lizmatic, congratz
23:00 <Lizmatic> thx, that was the best addition
23:00 <epsy> was that a compliment?
23:00 <MrBougo> you said you didn't like quotes, armabot saw that :p
23:00  * Lizmatic kicks armabot in teh nutzzzz
23:01 <epsy> it's a girl, wrtlprnft sez
23:01 <BabyBug> it's a shegirl
23:01 <MrBougo> #crazylate this is a test
23:01 <armabot> MrBougo: Error: Babelfish has foiled our plans by changing its webpage format.
23:01 <Lucifer> top turd on the pile is still a turd
23:01 <MrBougo> pffffffff
23:01 <MrBougo> why why why why
23:01 <epsy> wow it really changed
23:01 <MrBougo> isn't it up to date?
23:02 <Lucifer> there are pictures of armabot kicking around
23:02 <epsy> guess not
23:02 <epsy> oh yeah, rule 34
23:02 <TaZ> #quote add "<TaZ>	Americans > Europeans."
23:03 <MrBougo> mh
23:03 <epsy> it STILL does not like it
23:03 <TaZ> xD
23:03 <Lizmatic> just face it, nobody likes taz
23:03 <TaZ> Lizmatic, why so serious?
23:03 <Lizmatic> no, quoting stuff from a movie doesn't make you cool
23:04 <epsy> oh also I'm l33t, as show on this picturz http://epsy.teamkilled.net:8080/~epsy/screenshots/arma-team/screenshot_1074.png
23:04 <TaZ> Lizmatic: Last time I check, you stole Sin's name.
23:04 <TaZ> but anyway :D
23:04 -!- Lizmatic is now known as Sin
23:04 <Sin> So what?
23:04 <armabot> TaZ: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
23:04 <epsy> uhm right, end of showoff against a room half-full of newbs
23:04 <epsy> goin café
23:04 <Sin> are you crying taz?!??! I bet you are
23:05 <TaZ> LOL!
23:05 <Lucifer> http://www.sexylosers.com/199.html  <--- there, armabot
23:05 -!- Sin is now known as Lizmatic
23:05 <TaZ> Lizmatic: I wish you knew me.
23:05 <Lizmatic> I thought beating him would shut him up.. I was wrong
23:05 <TaZ> Lizmatic: You think I have something against you, but I don't
23:05 <TaZ> You just get dramatic easily
23:05 <Lizmatic> Die in a fire.
23:05 <Lucifer> TaZ has a lot to learn about girls, apparently
23:06 <TaZ> And overreact ALL the time.
23:06 <TaZ> No, I already know this Lucifer
23:06 <Lizmatic> DIE@
23:06 <Lizmatic> !!1!
23:06 <TaZ> Join me Lizmatic
23:06 <Lizmatic> IF YOU DON'T DIE I'LL KILL YOU!!1!
23:06 <epsy> SO SILENCE!
23:06 -!- Lizmatic is now known as Lizdramatic
23:06 <Lizdramatic> YEAH
23:06 <TaZ> xD
23:06 -!- Lizdramatic is now known as Lizmatic
23:06 <Lizmatic> xD??? L0SER
23:06 <Lucifer> I could kick both of them, but I'd only enjoy kicking TaZ
23:06 <TaZ> Lucifer: :o
23:07 <Lizmatic> See? Lucifer knows what girls want
23:07 <TaZ> Lucifer: he still holds that grudge when I said SP~Lucifer
23:07 <TaZ> And where is luke-jr?
23:08 <Lizmatic> Why are you still in here? Nobody likes you
23:08 <Lizmatic> .. /disconnect plx
23:08 <Lucifer> luke-jr is probably off making out with Jesus again
23:08 <TaZ> Lizmatic: If you have a problem, then please do leave. :)
23:08 <TaZ> You also need to respect your elders Lizmatic
23:08 <MrBougo> <Lucifer> luke-jr is probably off making out with Jesus again
23:08 <MrBougo> ahaha
23:09 <TaZ> PinkTomato
23:10 <PinkTomato> TaZ: ...
23:10 <TaZ> ;)
23:10 <PinkTomato> ...
23:10 <TaZ> wha wha?
23:10 <MrBougo> bye
23:10 <PinkTomato> ..
23:10 <PinkTomato> :)
23:10 <Lizmatic> My elders? I knew it, you're an 80 year-old no lifer
23:10 <TaZ> If it's about me saying America>Europe, i was jk. <3
23:10 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@177.251-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit []
23:10 <Lizmatic> GTFO GRANDPA.
23:10 <TaZ> Lizmatic, who are you again?
23:11 <Lucifer> how old is TaZ?
23:11 <TaZ> That's what I thought.
23:11 <Lizmatic> Senile too huh? Poor old man
23:11 <Lucifer> I had him figured for about 13
23:11 <TaZ> 4
23:11 <Lizmatic> Ha-ha.. 4.. WITTY.
23:11 <Lizmatic> He's about 13/14, Lucifer.
23:11 <TaZ> Lizmatic: You talk a lot. :)
23:11 <Lizmatic> Anyone who calls me a 'hacker' in tron isn't older than 15.
23:12 <Lucifer> hey, try building arma with #define LUCIFER_ALWAYS_WINS
23:12 <TaZ> Someone can't take a joke, eh? :)
23:12 <Lizmatic> Your jokes aren't funny.
23:12 <TaZ> Lizmatic: Then learn humor.
23:12  * Lizmatic sighs deeply
23:12 <TaZ> I bet you are
23:12 <epsy> that indeed wasn't funny
23:13 <Lucifer> hey, that would be funny
23:13  * Lizmatic face palms..
23:13 <TaZ> lul
23:13 <Lucifer> epsy: how about hardcoding in the round end message "Match winner: Lucifer" and putting that in an #ifdef LUCIFER_ALWAYS_WINS ?
23:13 <Lizmatic> guys, taz is totally funny, I laugh at him all the time
23:13 <epsy> :D
23:13 <Lucifer> I might have to do that
23:13 <TaZ> Lizmatic: Calm down.  lol
23:13 <Lucifer> there's not enough humor in the source code itself
23:14 <Lizmatic> ask taz, he can 'learn' humor to u !!1!!
23:14 <epsy> the whole sourcec code is a jooke!
23:14 <TaZ> xD
23:14 <TaZ> You're funny Sasori
23:14  * Lizmatic is an angry person
23:14 <Lizmatic> rawr
23:14 <epsy> (angry dudes make rawr)
23:15 <TaZ> Lizmatic: You have rich parent's, don't you? :)
23:15 <Lizmatic> BabyBug, I can't stop listening to that McFly cover lol :/
23:15 <BabyBug> lol i told you it's good!!
23:15  * Lizmatic lol'd when he says 'us girls'
23:15 <BabyBug> =D
23:17 <BabyBug> Youtube really needs a repeat feature
23:17 <Lizmatic> LOL they did rihanna's "umbrella" too :x
23:17 <Lizmatic> and I like it!
23:18 <BabyBug> i find all McFly's own songs suck but their covers rock \o/
23:19 <Lizmatic> :D
23:19 <Lizmatic> guys doing girl songs are mmmmm
23:19 <BabyBug> ;)
23:19  * Lucifer is listening to Kiss
23:19 <Lucifer> if this compiles, I'm pushing it :)
23:19 <Lucifer> (it should compile, eh?)
23:19 <BabyBug> McFly need to make a cover of Britney's video in the school uniform... =D
23:19 <Lizmatic> haha
23:19 <Lizmatic> TOTALLY
23:20 <TaZ> Lucifer
23:20 <MaZuffeR> lillasyster's umbrella is the best one
23:20 <Lucifer> epsy: do you recall right offhand how I can click on -D options?
23:20 <TaZ> Can I tell you a server idea..
23:20 <TaZ> plzz
23:20 <MaZuffeR> umbrella cover*
23:20 <Lizmatic> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=I9NowOyHrsg < lol I love it.
23:21 <Lizmatic> deathmetal!britney ftw
23:21 <BabyBug> haha
23:22 <Lucifer> leave me alone TaZ, I'm busy adding #ifdef LUCIFER_ALWAYS_WINS
23:22 <TaZ> lol
23:22 <TaZ> kk
23:23 <Lizmatic> Lucifer: I love you.
23:24 <BabyBug> Lucifer, If you want to something exciting i'd recommend bug 246159 =D
23:24 <teabot> Launchpad bug 246159 in armagetronad "Server browser rendering errors followed by segmentation fault." [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/246159
23:24 <TaZ> :)
23:24 <BabyBug> to do*
23:25  * TaZ wonders if ivantis got that freelance job..
23:25 <Lucifer> that bug doesn't happen to me
23:26 <BabyBug> hrmph
23:26 <BabyBug> upgrade? xD
23:27 <Lucifer> is it in the trunk, or 0.2.8 branch?
23:28 <BabyBug> trunk
23:29 -!- sinewav [n=sinewav@adsl-76-197-249-128.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has quit ["couldn't handle it and left"]
23:31 <Lucifer> then I'll probably have to deal with it sooner or later
23:31 <BabyBug> Yup =D
23:31 <BabyBug> So might aswell get it out of the way....right? ;)
23:32 <Lucifer> grrr, I have an http branch of the trunk, can't commit to it :(
23:32 <Lucifer> #bzr
23:32 <armabot> bzr co lp:armagetronad (for trunk) bzr co lp:armagetronad/0.2.8 (for 0.2.8) (bzr >= 1.4)
23:33  * Lizmatic yawns
23:33  * BabyBug sticks a sock in Lizmatic's mouth
23:33 <Lucifer> there :)
23:33 <BabyBug> \o/
23:33 <Lucifer> now we need to get someone to build a server like that
23:33 <Lizmatic> ...
23:33  * Lizmatic laughs out loud
23:34 <BabyBug> Lucifer, someone to build a server?
23:34 <Lucifer> yeah, it's easy
23:34 <Lucifer> CPPFLAGS="-DLUCIFER_ALWAYS_WINS" ./configure --enable-dedicated
23:34 <BabyBug> Oh you're talking about that ><
23:36 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: where is the CPPFLAGS="-DKYLE_ALWAYS_WINS"
23:37 <Lucifer> https://code.launchpad.net/armagetronad  :)
23:38 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8663 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/tron/gGame.cpp): dave@davefancella.com: Added LUCIFER_ALWAYS_WINS conditional
23:38 <ct|kyle> ^^
23:38 -!- ivantis2 [n=Android@m4b0e36d0.tmodns.net] has joined #armagetron
23:38 <teabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r713 Added LUCIFER_ALWAYS_WINS conditional
23:38 <BabyBug> \o/
23:38 <PinkTomato> :D, is that sort of stuff all throughout the code?
23:39 <Lucifer> no, I think this will be the first sort of thing, and I"m curious how long it'll be before someone else removes it
23:39 <ivantis2> im at school
23:39 <ivantis2> being bored
23:39 <Lucifer> it just changes the center message, nothing else is touched (or worth touching for this)
23:39 <ivantis2> yawn
23:39 <TaZ> ivantis2:
23:39 <TaZ> Did you get that freelance job?
23:39 <ivantis2> TaZ:
23:40 <TaZ> I take that as a no. :D
23:40 <ivantis2> i havent heard back from the guy yet
23:40 <ivantis2> he hasnt signed on in like 2 weeks
23:40 <ivantis2> my
23:40 <TaZ> o
23:40 <TaZ> that sux man
23:40 <TaZ> Maybe he died??
23:40 <ivantis2> stupid delete so close to return!
23:40 <ivantis2> yeah
23:41 <ivantis2> what i was thinkin
23:41 <TaZ> haha
23:42 <TaZ> ivantis2: You can do my homework for 10 cents an hour.
23:43 <Lucifer> I wouldn't turn in homework that I bought that cheap
23:43 <TaZ> I would.
23:43 <Lucifer> well yeah, you can only get a better grade that way
23:44 <Lucifer> but I can do my own homework and get at least a B
23:44 <Lucifer> but if I do all of it, I'm guaranteed an A
23:44 <TaZ> Lucifer: I guess you were a smart kid in school?
23:44 <ivantis2> i hate homework
23:44 <ivantis2> bleah
23:44 <Lucifer> so if I bought homework from somebody, there'd be serious risk of getting a lower grade than I could earn on my own
23:45 <Lucifer> TaZ: well, I finished high school with a 2.3 GPA, but my current college GPA is 3.49
23:45 <TaZ> interesting.
23:45 <Lucifer> I blame the depression
23:45 <ivantis2> i have a 3.35
23:45 <Lucifer> without that, I'd still have a 4.0 :)
23:45 <TaZ> So you did bad in school, but did good in college
23:45 <ivantis2> at least, i did
23:45 <TaZ> ?(
23:45 <Lucifer> so I better fix that before I transfer for the rest of the degree
23:45 <ivantis2> havent gotten my latest grades yet
23:45 <TaZ> You still in college?
23:45 <Lucifer> it's all about effort, I didn't put out much effort in high school, but I have put out more effort in college
23:45 <Lucifer> yes, I am
23:46 <ivantis2> me?
23:46 <Lucifer> I started college when I was 30 :)
23:46 <epsy> Lucifer, what?
23:46 <TaZ> How is it being 43, and i college?
23:46 <TaZ> in*
23:46 <Lucifer> I don't know, I'll let you know when I'm 43
23:46 <TaZ> What's your major?
23:46 <Lucifer> Aerospace Engineering
23:46 <ivantis2> epsy: where are you going to college?
23:46 <TaZ> whoa
23:46 <Lucifer> not formally yet, though, I have to transfer for that
23:46 <Lucifer> I just picked up an AS in Engineering this summer though ;)
23:47 <TaZ> Where you trying to transfer at?
23:47 <TaZ> oo
23:47 <Lucifer> either A&M or UT
23:47 <TaZ> I almost have BA in ECET
23:47 <TaZ> How are you being supported?
23:47 <epsy> ivantis2, to antartica
23:47 <TaZ> I bet it's expensive
23:47 <Lucifer> right now, I'm not, haha
23:47 <epsy> I've already edited my launchpad profile
23:47 <TaZ> Then how are you living!?
23:48 <Lucifer> student loans and crap, but see, I just got divorced, so the situation has changed a lot
23:48 <TaZ> ooo
23:48 <Lucifer> I'm currently job-searching
23:48 <TaZ> That sucks man
23:48 <ivantis2> so am i
23:48 <epsy> lol..
23:48 <ivantis2> but im 14
23:48 <ivantis2> i dont have bills to pay :)
23:48 <TaZ> So like, are you in alot of debt?
23:48 <Lucifer> of course
23:49 <TaZ> 20 cents an hour for you to do my homeworl
23:49 <Lucifer> heh
23:49 <TaZ> I jk
23:49 <TaZ> :)
23:49 <Lucifer> *if* I were going to do that, seriously, I'd charge at least $100/hour
23:49 <TaZ> But you're a programmer yo?
23:49 <TaZ> to*
23:49 <Lucifer> yes
23:49 <TaZ> too*
23:49 <Lucifer> in fact, I'm looking for a programming job right now
23:50 <TaZ> So do you just have 1 degree?
23:50 <Lucifer> just the AS in Engineering
23:50 <ivantis2> Lucifer: elance.com, where i get my work
23:50 <Lucifer> I'm trying to get a financial aid appeal, too, so if I don't get a job, I can at least get more student loans
23:50 <TaZ> Well ivantis2 recommended ilance.com...but seeing how his client died..
23:50 <TaZ> ah I see
23:50 <ivantis2> possibly died
23:50 <TaZ> Get as many grants as you can
23:51 <Lucifer> elance.com is just another place where you go bid against rooms full of Indians who can do the job for 1/10 of what I need to get for it
23:51 <ivantis2> kind of weird
23:51 <TaZ> lol
23:51 <ivantis2> yeah, lots of ppl from india there
23:51 <ivantis2> but i think i was the one for this job.. if he hadnt died
23:52 <TaZ> haha
23:52 <Lucifer> or I can big against ivantis
23:52 <ivantis2> o
23:52 <Lucifer> who is almost certainly undervaluing his work
23:52 <TaZ> that would be funny
23:52 <ivantis2> yes i am
23:52 <Lucifer> and hurting the entire freelance industry by doing so
23:52 <ivantis2> but, im just starting
23:52 <Lucifer> that's a common excuse
23:53 <Lucifer> but it's just that: an excuse
23:53 <TaZ> Well if you are in need of money, you can always chacha.com
23:53 <TaZ> .g chacha
23:53 <tronner> TaZ: http://www.chacha.com/ - ChaCha. Just Call. Just Text. Just Ask
23:53 <ivantis2> whatever
23:53 <TaZ> 10-20 cents for each question answered
23:53 <ivantis2> ah! teacher coming!
23:53 -!- ivantis2 [n=Android@m4b0e36d0.tmodns.net] has quit ["AndroidIrc Disconnecting"]
23:53 <Lucifer> haha
23:53 <TaZ> ..haha
23:53 <Lucifer> smeghead
23:54 <epsy> rofl..
23:54 <Lucifer> er, damn caffeine withdrawal, can't do simple arithmetic
23:54 <PinkTomato> smeghead!
23:54 <Lucifer> #math calc 20/0.1
23:54 <armabot> Lucifer: 200
23:54 <Lucifer> so I'd need to answer 200 questions an hour
23:54 <epsy> I think it's time to phone ivantis
23:54 <Lucifer> #math calc 200/60
23:54 <armabot> Lucifer: 3.33333333333
23:54 <Lucifer> or, 3.3333333 questions per minute
23:54 <Lizmatic> taz's only friend left
23:54 <Lizmatic> :<
23:55 <Lucifer> Lizmatic: that's almost tragic
23:55 -!- G5 [n=G5@cl-506.dus-01.de.sixxs.net] has joined #armagetron
23:55 <TaZ> Lizmatic: Please go back to being a depressed mum.
23:55 <epsy> she used to be a mum?
23:55 <Lizmatic> Mummy?
23:55 <TaZ> You can make 6-9 dollars an hour
23:55 <Lizmatic> Did I resurrect?
23:55 <epsy> I suppose
23:55 <TaZ> doing chacha
23:55 <epsy> @8ball did Lizmatic resurrect?
23:56 <teabot> epsy: _I_ don't know.
23:56 <Lizmatic> It remains a mystery..
23:56 <PinkTomato> surely that's under the minimum wage.
23:56 <Lizmatic> TaZ, little tip: a pregnant woman isn't a 'mum' YET..
23:56 <epsy> until we question it again
23:56 <epsy> @8ball did Lizmatic resurrect?
23:56 <teabot> epsy: _I_ don't know.
23:56 <epsy> clever
23:56 <epsy> @8ball did Lizmatic resurrect?
23:56 <teabot> epsy: _I_ don't know.
23:56 <TaZ> Well if you answer questions fast enough
23:56 <TaZ> :D
23:56 -!- ivantis2 [n=Android@m4b0e36d0.tmodns.net] has joined #armagetron
23:56 <epsy> ivantis, I almost phoned you
23:56 <epsy> @8ball did Lizmatic resurrect?
23:56 <teabot> epsy: You know the answer better than I.
23:56 <TaZ> wb ivantis2
23:56 <ivantis2> false alarm
23:57 <ivantis2> why?
23:57 <ivantis2> im in the bathroom
23:57 <TaZ> It takes like 30 secs to a min to answer questions though
23:57 <ivantis2> a teacher came in, so i went into a stall
23:57 <epsy> you have school in bathroom?
23:58 <ivantis2> ^^
23:58 <ivantis2> look up
23:58 <Lucifer> TaZ: that's why it's useful to look at the breakdown :)
23:58 <epsy> bathroom class Oo
23:58 <TaZ> yes yes I know
23:58 <Lucifer> but if it takes a whole minute, and I only get 10 cents, then it's $6/hour
23:59 <Lizmatic> what are we even discussing..
23:59 <Lizmatic> I work and make more money than you ever will, taazzzzy.
23:59 <ivantis2> yawn
23:59 <ivantis2> maybe i should get back to class
23:59 <TaZ> After answering 200 questions in one week, you get a raise to 20 cents a question
23:59 <TaZ> Lizmatic: Please fuck off, you don't even know me
23:59 <TaZ> kthx

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00:00 <Lizmatic> I remember Curbside saying you came out in the ID private section
00:00 <ivantis2> ah! the bell
00:00 <Lucifer> TaZ: that would depend on the volume of questions being high enough that there are 200 questions to answer
00:00 <Lizmatic> maybe that's why you're resentful to me.. gay? :<
00:00 <Lucifer> and in the meantime, you're stuck answering questions for cheap, always hoping to catch the carrot they're dangling
00:00 <ivantis2> time to go home! hooray!
00:00 -!- ivantis2 [n=Android@m4b0e36d0.tmodns.net] has quit [Client Quit]
00:01  * Lucifer is cynical about any work-from-home deal
00:01 <Lucifer> mind you, I'd love to work from home, I'm just cynical about most of the offerings out there
00:01 <TaZ> Lucifer: Usually it's back to back.
00:01 <TaZ> No, I am too
00:01 <TaZ> But this legit
00:01 <TaZ> is*
00:01 <TaZ> research always though
00:02 <Lizmatic> Lucifer: 95% is a scam
00:02 <Lizmatic> so you should be cynical..
00:02 <TaZ> It's usually b2b question Lucifer
00:02 <Lucifer> I'll give it a look, probably later, after my guitar lesson :)
00:03 <TaZ> Lizmatic: Before anybody starts something online, I always recommed they research.  I have been doing this for months now though
00:03 <TaZ> oops, I mean Lucifer
00:04 <TaZ> Lizmatic: Why are you still talking to me?  You have nothing important to say.
00:04 <epsy> she is not
00:04  * Lizmatic sighs deeply
00:04 <Lizmatic> whatever, I'm going to read a book.. its neat.
00:05 <TaZ> Ivantis, I would recommend you try it too, but you're not at least 18. :<
00:07  * TaZ need to practice guitar too.
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00:10 <Lizmatic> TaZ: Don't private message me with insults, do it here, you coward.
00:11 <TaZ> because "You crack me up" is an insult.
00:11 <TaZ> nice try though
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00:38 <ct|kyle> http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=11096193&ch=4226716&src=news
00:39 -!- zmanuel [n=manuel@p50872F35.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)]
00:39 <TaZ> ct|kyle: lolz yes, we've seen it a million times
00:40 <PinkTomato> That's actually only the second time i watched it
00:40 <PinkTomato> the first being 5 seconds ago
00:40 <ct|kyle> heh
00:40 <TaZ> :P
00:43 -!- MaZuffeR [n=mazuffer@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has quit ["Ex-Chat"]
00:45 <Lucifer> ok, not giving up on the librarian just yet
00:45 <Lucifer> heh
00:45 <TaZ> Give her the wink
00:45 <TaZ> ;)
00:45 -!- hoop [n=john@ip-179-209.sn1.eutelia.it] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
00:45 <Lizmatic> Lucifer: are you divoreced, or not together anymore with the mother of your children?
00:45 <Lucifer> divorced
00:46 <Lizmatic> aw, I always hate hearing that
00:46 <Lucifer> This is a situation where it's a happy event, the divorce is
00:46 <TaZ> Lucifer: eHarmony.com
00:47 <Lizmatic> so you're in good contact with the ex and kiddies?
00:47 <TaZ> Wow, way to delve into personal business.
00:48 <Lucifer> depends on how you define "good"
00:48 <Lucifer> I see the kids, but not enough
00:48 <Lucifer> I see the ex far more than I'd like
00:48 <TaZ> Lucifer: Will you adopt me?
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00:50  * ct|kyle cuddles BabyBug
00:50  * BabyBug kicks ct|kyle off a cliff
00:50 <BabyBug> too late now bitch
00:51 <BabyBug> xD
00:51 <Lucifer> well, this is tricky
00:52 <Lizmatic> TaZ: its called genuine interest
00:52  * ct|kyle hangs on to BabyBug
00:52 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, what are you hanging onto me by?
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00:52  * Lizmatic cuts off ct|kyle's arms
00:52 <Paralyzed> #notes
00:52 <armabot> Paralyzed: I currently have notes waiting for $MrBougo, $randomnick, *man*, *mougo*, <<sh1n>>, <sh1n>, cid_06, ct¦kyle, dBd|nano, Durka,, e_n_d_e_r, eddie, epsy:, espy, everyone, G5_Ger, guru, how, I, kyle, later, monkey, Nickserv, noob7_away, operserv, philippec, ratchet, ratchet-, rickyross, royale, sebol, sithy, someone, somody, sunnygirl, unknown, voodoo, wrtlpwnft, xs20, z-man, [dlh], and (1 more message)
00:52 <BabyBug> Oh that'd do
00:52 <BabyBug> :D
00:52 <Lizmatic> \     o      /
00:52 <ct|kyle> i had my legs around here :P
00:53  * BabyBug just chops off ct|kyle's head
00:53 <BabyBug> both heads...
00:53 <ct|kyle> o0
00:53 <Lizmatic> ...
00:53 <Lizmatic> ...OHH
00:53 <Lizmatic> took a while for me to get that
00:53 <BabyBug> LOL
00:53 <Lizmatic> :x
00:53 <TaZ> hey armabot
00:53 <TaZ> hey Paralyzed *
00:53 <Paralyzed> hey :]
00:53 <TaZ> How you doin?
00:54 <TaZ> R forums got taken off Ww forums...
00:54 <Paralyzed> good
00:55 <TaZ> lol
00:55 <Paralyzed> i mean im doing good
00:55  * ct|kyle unddles BabyBug
00:55 <Paralyzed> and as too R lol
00:55 <TaZ> oh ok
00:55 <ct|kyle> uncuddles*
00:55 <TaZ> xS
00:55 <BabyBug> fail ct|kyle
00:55 <TaZ> xD*
00:55 <TaZ> Any maps lately?
00:55 <Lizmatic> she's mine ct|kyle
00:56  * Lizmatic laughs evily
00:56  * ct|kyle cuddles Lizmatic
00:56 <BabyBug> and Lizmatic is mine xD
00:56  * BabyBug stabs ct|kyle 
00:56 <PinkTomato> violent!
00:56 <BabyBug> not violent...Protective!
00:56 <TaZ> lesbians
00:56 <ct|kyle> overly :P
00:56 <Lucifer> worse than that, internet lesbians
00:57 <TaZ> xD
00:57 <Lizmatic> You love it Lucifer
00:57 <Lucifer> because they could really be men pretending to be women for attention
00:57 <BabyBug> rofl
00:57  * Lizmatic coughs
00:57 <BabyBug> ewwww
00:57 <TaZ> You never know...
00:57 <Paralyzed> ouch, my aching wenis
00:58 <TaZ> lol
00:58 <TaZ> How did you hurt your wenis?
00:58 <ct|kyle> .weather 46814
00:58 <tronner> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Tanbark, Fort Wayne, Indiana is 18.3°F (6:58 PM EST on December 16, 2008). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 15.8°F. Windchill: 17.6°F. Pressure: 30.26 in 1024.6 hPa (Rising).  Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 5 am EST Wednesday...
00:58 <Paralyzed> i hit it on the door
00:58 <PinkTomato> .weather OX3
00:58 <Lucifer> can life even exist at that temperature?
00:58 <Lucifer> #weather 78729
00:58 <armabot> Lucifer: The current temperature in LetoWeather, Austin, Texas is 36.1°F (5:56 PM CST on December 16, 2008). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 28.4°F. Windchill: 35.6°F. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007.0 hPa (Steady).
00:58 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: hardly
00:59 <TaZ> .weather 28723
00:59 <TaZ> ftw!
00:59 <tronner> TaZ: The current temperature in Conleys Creek, Whittier, North Carolina is 59.5°F (6:59 PM EST on December 16, 2008). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 55.4°F. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019.2 hPa (Steady).
00:59 <ct|kyle> we already have about 3 CM of snow
00:59 <ct|kyle> .weather chicago
00:59 <tronner> ct|kyle: The current temperature in U.S. Cellular Field, Chicago, Illinois is 22.3°F (5:50 PM CST on December 16, 2008). Conditions: Snow. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 19.4°F. Windchill: 17.6°F. Pressure: 30.20 in 1022.6 hPa (Rising).  Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 6 am CST Wednesday...
00:59 <PinkTomato> Farenheight?
01:00 <ct|kyle> ?F
01:00 <PinkTomato> ?All i get is ?F
01:01 <Lucifer> we had snow last week, but it melted when it hit the ground
01:01 <ct|kyle> snow way down there
01:02 <Lucifer> yeah, it's been a horrid winter
01:02 <Lucifer> why can't we go back to the 50s winters we're used to?
01:02 <PinkTomato> what was that like?
01:02 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: because of global warming
01:02 <PinkTomato> won't it get colder next year anyway due to the equator and stuff.
01:02 <PinkTomato> ?
01:03 <ct|kyle> also it is not winter yet
01:03 <Lucifer> oh come on, I live just north of the hottest part of the world
01:03 <Lucifer> we shouldn't have freezing weather!
01:03 <Lucifer> it's inhuman!
01:03 <Lucifer> there ought to be a law against it!
01:03 <ct|kyle> since the globe is warming, it's gotta freeze more often
01:04 <Lucifer> hmmm, I'm really not sure what to say to this girl
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01:04  * ct|kyle ponders on that same question 
01:05 <Lucifer> are you trying to email the same girl I'm trying to email?
01:05 <Lizmatic> just say something witty about a book
01:05 <Lizmatic> she's a librarian?
01:05 <Lizmatic> :D
01:05 <Lucifer> no, different girl
01:05 <Lizmatic> o
01:05 <Lizmatic> playa
01:05 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: not same one as you different one :P
01:05 <Lucifer> I already emailed the librarian with something witty about a book
01:05 <Lizmatic> excellent
01:06 <Lucifer> I'm not actually trying to get a date with this one, I'm trying to get her slotted into the Friend Zone
01:06 <Lucifer> she's got a boyfriend (or at least, had one last I heard)
01:06 <Lucifer> this is divorce recovery stuff
01:06 <Lizmatic> why would you wanna be in the friend zone?
01:06 <Lizmatic> that's hell for single men!
01:06 <Lucifer> I would've kept in touch with her after the school year ended last year, but didn't on account of my jealous wife
01:07 <Lizmatic> whimmin, who needs em
01:07 <BabyBug> over obsessive wife?
01:07 <Lizmatic> death to the wenches!
01:07 <BabyBug> sorry if that's too personal =x
01:07 <Lucifer> but now I don't have the jealous wife, and when you're recovering from a relationship like that, you're supposed to get back in touch with people you left behind over the jealous wife
01:07 <Lucifer> BabyBug: yeah, jealous, possesive, and controlling
01:07 <Lizmatic> yeah, I know a person like that too...
01:07  * BabyBug winks
01:08 <Lucifer> anyway, this girl is my youngest's pre-K teacher
01:08 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: Lucifer has a list too big to post on IRC on what he hates about her, though his lists that he likes contains only 1 item
01:08 <Lucifer> but she's moved to a different school and is now teaching kindergarten
01:08 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: technically, it's two items
01:08 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: heh true
01:09 <ct|kyle> a left and a right
01:09 <Lizmatic> Lucifer: www.menarebetterthanwomen.com/forum sounds like something for you, its full of divorced men :P
01:09 <Lucifer> Lizmatic: heh, I don't need any elitist support groups
01:09 <Lucifer> I joined a support group that's non-religious, and has both men and women in it
01:09 <Lucifer> maybe my next date will come from there :)
01:10 <Lucifer> (maybe I've already had a date from there, but didn't follow up on it)
01:10 <Lizmatic> shucks
01:10 <Lizmatic> MABTW is such a cool forum
01:10 <Lucifer> aha, I'll cage her
01:11  * Lizmatic can hear BabyBug clenching her teeth with anger over that site
01:11 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: cage Lizmatic and BabyBug, so you can watch their shows :D
01:12 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: but didn't we establish they're both men pretending to be women for the attention?
01:12 <BabyBug> The only thing men are better than women at is falling over when drunk
01:12 <ct|kyle> i always for get those small details,
01:13 <Lizmatic> can men get pregnant?
01:13 <fonkay> and producing sperm.
01:13 <Lucifer> and making themselves have an orgasm
01:13 <fonkay> men are better at that.
01:13 <fonkay> bah, not true.
01:14 <BabyBug> no no Lucifer that's not true =P
01:14 <fonkay> That one depends on the woman.
01:14 <Lucifer> no woman can do better than I can do with my own hands
01:14 <BabyBug> men do it quicker, not better =P
01:14 <Lucifer> BabyBug: I fail to see how those are different
01:15 <BabyBug> prolonged orgasms feel alot better than instant ones =P
01:15 <Lizmatic> don't get into a discussion with BabyBug about masturbation
01:15 <Lizmatic> she's PRO
01:15 <ct|kyle> #armagetron_XXX
01:15 <Lizmatic> !11!
01:15 <ct|kyle> :P
01:15 <TaZ> lol
01:15 <Lucifer> BabyBug: and there ain't a woman alive who knows how to do that to a man, but all men know how to do it for themselves
01:16 <BabyBug> Lucifer, Originally you said "making themselves"
01:16 <Lucifer> in fact, it's a rite of passage
01:16 <BabyBug> No a woman to a man =P
01:16 <BabyBug> not*
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01:16 <Lucifer> ah, I meant "making men have orgasms", but didn't want to imply that men can automatically give each other better orgasms (although I suspect that's true, too)
01:16 <Flex> i never knew gnomes could have orgasms
01:17 <Lucifer> heh, this conversation is really distracting me from the email I'm trying to write
01:17 <BabyBug> Well according to you Flex i'm a whore, and they're perfectly capable =P
01:18 <Lizmatic> Lucifer: tell her how good you are with your hands!
01:18 <BabyBug> Lucifer, Don't go slipping the wrong words into that email! =P
01:18 <Lucifer> heh, maybe I should email the librarian instead
01:18 <fonkay> I think so.
01:18 <Lizmatic> she'll have a heart attack
01:20 <Lucifer> see, here's the thing
01:20 <Lucifer> I don't want to write her a really long email about my divorce
01:21 <Lizmatic> but women love that
01:21 <BabyBug> Uhh...we do?
01:21 <Lucifer> er, nvm
01:21 <Lucifer> I forgot how I was going to say it
01:21 <Lizmatic> lol!
01:21 <Lizmatic> is this divorce recent?
01:21 <Lucifer> yes
01:21 <Lizmatic> ah..
01:21 <Lucifer> finalized the same day we elected Obama president
01:22 <Lizmatic> so it all worked out :S
01:22 <Lucifer> well, it means that these people (mostly girls, I must admit) that I want to talk to are people I've mostly ignored for at least 6 months
01:22 <Flex> gathering research Lizmatic?
01:22 <Lucifer> in this particular girl's case, I have a vague memory of my former wife telling me that on the last day of school, the teacher asked her to tell me to keep in touch
01:23 <Lucifer> (and my former wife being insanely jealous about it)
01:24 <Lucifer> I'll sit on it for awhile, she's busy with school stuff right now anyway
01:26 <Lizmatic> well it's good that you can keep in touch with people again now that you're not restrained by that jealous person anymore ^^
01:30 <Lucifer> yeah, that's true, but I'd really like to get in touch with people that I've lost previously
01:31 <Lucifer> oooo, I figured out why I feel so shitty right now
01:31 <Lucifer> I haven't eaten anything!
01:34 <TaZ> haha
01:35  * SageLord mails Lucifer a piece of onion/mushroom/pepperoni pizza
01:35 <Lucifer> ok, I asked her straightaway if this memory of my ex telling me she wanted to keep in touch is true
01:36 <Lucifer> that way I can dodge going into the emotional baggage when I still don't know if she even wants to talk to me
01:37 <Lucifer> hmmm, should I take my bass with me this time?
01:37  * Lucifer thinks he probably should
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02:13 <hoax> #tea
02:13 <armabot> hoax: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
02:13 <hoax> coff coff
02:13 <SageLord> .tea
02:13 <tronner> SageLord: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
02:13 <SageLord> .tea
02:13 <tronner> SageLord: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
02:13 <SageLord> .tea
02:13 <tronner> SageLord: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
02:13 <SageLord> ):
02:14 <hoax> coff coff
02:14 <hoax> #tea
02:14 <armabot> hoax: Fortress Café: Players (3/32): |x| FoFo, ¦×¦ Hoax (Hoax@x/member)
02:14 <hoax> er
02:15 <hoax> 8)
02:17 <SageLord> O:
02:18 <hoax> #tea
02:18 <armabot> hoax: Fortress Café: Players (4/32): -=VcL.Hi, -=}ID< ¦Lìght¦, |x| FoFo, ¦×¦ Hoax (Hoax@x/member)
02:19 <hoax> cometh
02:19 <SageLord> :O
02:19 <SageLord> got a final tomorrow morning that i haven't studied for :/
02:19 <SageLord> so ok i'm coming
02:19 <SageLord> :P
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02:22 <hoax> lol
02:22 <hoax> standard
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02:43 <hoax> wrtlprnft cafe is broked? :|
02:43 <SageLord> :(
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02:55 <hoax> & some muppet's disabled polls, unles wrt did it
02:56 <hoax> anyway latar, hf tomorrow SageLord :D
03:11 <SageLord> thanks, gnight :)
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04:14 <Lucifer> it's frickin' cold
04:15 <Lucifer> not just cold, but frickin' cold
04:15 <Lucifer> #weather 78729
04:15 <armabot> Lucifer: The current temperature in LetoWeather, Austin, Texas is 36.9°F (9:13 PM CST on December 16, 2008). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 30.2°F. Windchill: 37.4°F. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008.0 hPa (Falling).
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04:27 <SageLord> #weather 77021
04:27 <armabot> SageLord: The current temperature in TMC, Houston, Texas is 46.0°F (9:23 PM CST on December 16, 2008). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: -999%. Windchill: 46.4°F. Pressure: (Rising).  Dense fog advisory in effect until 6 am CST Wednesday...
04:27 <SageLord> man... i seriously hate cold weather
04:27 <SageLord> humidity: -999% lulz
04:29 <Lucifer> anybody know about this server that says "pardus.at" ?
04:42 <mkzelda> austria eh? throw another shrimp on the bar-b
04:44 <ct|kyle> .weather 46814
04:44 <tronner> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Tanbark, Fort Wayne, Indiana is 20.8°F (10:44 PM EST on December 16, 2008). Conditions: Light Freezing Drizzle. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 19.4°F. Windchill: 21.2°F. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019.2 hPa (Falling).  Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 5 am EST Wednesday...
04:56 <Lucifer> come to ww fort
05:24 <luke-jr> .weather 68127
05:24 <tronner> luke-jr: The current temperature in 78th Ave. & Seymour, Ralston, Nebraska is 6.6°F (10:18 PM CST on December 16, 2008). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 1.4°F. Windchill: 6.8°F. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020.5 hPa (Falling).
05:28 <Lucifer> which one of you was 'teen'?
05:31  * BabyBug cuddles Lucifer (no it wasn't me)
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05:39 <sinewav> I forgot who teen was. I used to know.
05:39 <Lucifer> s/he kind of acted like spidey
05:54 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
05:54 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Crooked Lane, Plano, Texas is 32.4°F (10:54 PM CST on December 16, 2008). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 30.2°F. Windchill: 32.0°F. Pressure: 30.21 in 1022.9 hPa (Rising).  Freezing fog advisory in effect until 7 am CST Wednesday...
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07:48 <dlh> epsy: what is going on?
07:50 <dlh> epsy:
07:51 <epsy> dlh, I return the question
07:51 <dlh> something strange with the language strings
07:52 <dlh> yep
07:52 <epsy> http://epsy.teamkilled.net:8080/~epsy/screenshots/arma-team/screenshot_1107.png
07:52 <dlh> it is the character in your name
07:59 <SageLord> happy birthday to me :)
07:59  * SageLord is 21 now :o
08:00 <bammes> SageLord: happy birthday
08:00 <SageLord> ty :)
08:01 <bammes> my screen session has been idling whole night long (<- tense correct?!)
08:01 <bammes> time to part ;)
08:01 <bammes> present perfect progressive?
08:02 <bammes> whateffer
08:02 <bammes> thank you for everything again
08:02 <bammes> maybe i'll see you later
08:02 <dlh> cya
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08:08 <dlh> epsy: this is how your name and text looked on my screen http://harple.com/~lee/screenshot_521.png
08:09 <epsy> yeah, so we indeed had trouble chatting
08:09 <epsy> I've seen nothing wrong for a while
08:10 <wrtlprnft> hoax: err, it's on the server list…
08:10 <epsy> dlh, was it always truncated lines?
08:10 <epsy> dlh, I had a different effect
08:10 <dlh> The server settings are available at https://code.launchpad.net/~dlh/+junk/in-limbo/ if you want to look into it.
08:10 <epsy> #last --from hoax --with wrtlprnft
08:10 <armabot> epsy: [02:43:10] <hoax> wrtlprnft cafe is broked? :|
08:11 <dlh> yes, it was always truncated. I renamed to "free kill ¶" or something and it was a similar effect
08:11 <epsy> probably a client issue
08:11 <epsy> I had something else, but didn't screenshot it, mind if we try again?
08:11 <dlh> ok
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08:13 <dlh> hey zmanuel
08:13 <epsy> dlh, ok I think I got them all
08:13 <dlh> ok
08:14 <epsy> http://epsy.teamkilled.net:8080/~epsy/screenshots/arma-team/screenshot_1111.png
08:14 <epsy> http://epsy.teamkilled.net:8080/~epsy/screenshots/arma-team/screenshot_1112.png
08:14 <zmanuel> morning
08:14 <dlh> yeah, the name part (free kill ¶...) is what I get when I rename
08:14 <dlh> The "free kill renamed to ..." message
08:14 <dlh> that is
08:15 <zmanuel> looks like an encoding issue.
08:16 <dlh> Screenshot from my side: http://harple.com/~lee/screenshot_521.png
08:18 <epsy> damn msn
08:18 <epsy> password got already stolen
08:19 <dlh> i'm gonna file a bug and go to bed. too late here.
08:20 <epsy> good night
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08:29 <dlh> bug filed. good night
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08:48 <armabot> lpbugs: [308866] Truncated and garbled text
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12:31 <Lucifer> hmmmm, do the AIs have access to config items?
12:31  * Lucifer is thinking how an AI can detect that it's a fortress game
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12:46 <z-man-work> Yeah, but there's no fortress config item :)
12:47 <z-man-work> They have access to the zone types, though. And in principle to the conquest settings, so they can tell Sumo from Fortress apart.
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13:25 <ivantis2> snow day for anyone?
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13:30 <MaZuffeR> no such thing in Finland
13:31 <ivantis2> ???
13:31 <MaZuffeR> it doesn't matter how much snow there would be, we still go to school
13:32 <Lizmatic> I love snow.. too bad we never get it here *sigh*
13:32 <ivantis2> where do you live? no snow?
13:32 <Lizmatic> the netherlands
13:33 <Lizmatic> we only have rain here
13:33 <ivantis2> man, that is way north of me, no snow eh?
13:33 <ivantis2> hopefully no school today for me
13:37 <Lizmatic> I want snow :<
13:37  * MaZuffeR throws a snowball at Lizmatic
13:38  * ivantis2 goes to find a candy cane
13:39  * Lizmatic makes snow angels in her imaginary snow
13:39 <ivantis2> did everyone do the tree thing?
13:39 <Lizmatic> huh?
13:39 <ivantis2> come to #perl and look at the topic
13:41 <Lizmatic> umk
13:42 <Lizmatic> that was strange :D
13:43 <ivantis2> did you look at the topic?
13:43 <Lizmatic> yes but I didn't understand :<
13:44 <ivantis2> cpan -i Acme::POE::Tree
13:44 <ivantis2> than
13:44 <Lizmatic> codelanguage ftl
13:44  * Lizmatic is a noob.
13:44 <ivantis2> then that other thing
13:45 <ivantis2> i assume a linux person there, right?
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13:56 <Lizmatic> 100k honorpoints in wow \o/..
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14:25 <Lucifer> yay, I rearranged my room
14:26 <BabyBug> wooooooooooooooo!!
14:26 <Lucifer> now there's room for the trapeze!
14:26 <BabyBug> ><
14:26 <Lizmatic> so any luck scoring?
14:26 <Lizmatic> :D
14:26 <Lucifer> heh, no
14:27 <Lucifer> too early in the day yet, nobody's gone to work and read their email
14:27 <Lucifer> whoah, it's already 7:30?
14:27 <BabyBug> why are you up so early?
14:28 <Lucifer> couldn't sleep
14:28 <Lucifer> I screwed up
14:28  * BabyBug knows the feeling...
14:28 <Lucifer> after my guitar lesson, I stopped off an dpicked up a 44 oz soda
14:28 <BabyBug> ><
14:28 <Lucifer> it was about 9pm
14:28 <Lucifer> I don't know for sure if the soda is what's kept me up all night, but something's got me all hyped up
14:28 <Lucifer> of course, I also went grocery shopping and ate a decent meal, that may have done it too ;)
14:29 <Lucifer> so after I laid in bed for two hours, I got out of bed and rearranged my room
14:29 <Lucifer> er, I just realized I'm not done, there's still crap in the hall I have to deal with
14:29 <BabyBug> lol
14:30 <BabyBug> Throw it in a bin bag
14:30 <BabyBug> job done
14:30 <Lucifer> well, one thing is a drawer that goes under the futon, the other is a nightstand that I want to give back to my roommate
14:30 <Lucifer> the problem is, she had it in here because she didn't have another place for it
14:31 <Lucifer> heh, I think she just got home from work
14:32 <BabyBug> =\
14:32 <BabyBug> Getting them to fit in a bin bag could be a little tricky
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14:33 <Lizmatic> HA
14:33 <Lizmatic> sorry
14:33 <Lizmatic> *cough*
14:33 <BabyBug> \o/
14:37 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8664 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. configure.ac): Manuel Moos: Disabling -Wno-strict-overflow for now.
14:38 <Lizmatic> .tea
14:38 <tronner> Lizmatic: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
14:59 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8665 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. configure.ac): Manuel Moos: Added one top level call of AX_CXXFLAGS_GCC_OPTION() to fix bug 307790.
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15:11 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r958 Added one top level call of AX_CXXFLAGS_GCC_OPTION() to fix ... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r957 Disabling -Wno-strict-overflow for now....
15:13 <Lucifer> z-man-work: if we used CODELEVEL=2 like we're supposed to, we wouldn't find problems with CODELEVEL<2 !
15:14 <z-man-work> That's why I'll forget to ask about it :)
15:14 <z-man-work> (Plus, really, it's enough if some use the higher code levels and slap the others whenever they break stuff. Happens rarely enough.)
15:16 <Lucifer> well, I'm a try to grab a little nap
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15:39 <z-man-work> Oooh, new VirtualBox supports OpenGL acceleration.
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17:28 <Lizmatic> o/
17:28 <BabyBug> \o
17:28 <Lizmatic> fixed the emergency at work, finally -_- morons
17:29 <BabyBug> lol
17:30 <hoax> i recon ive a fucked up client thats crashing all the servers i go on
17:30  * ct|kyle cuddles Lizmatic with BabyBug
17:30 <hoax> happened like 8 times
17:30 <hoax> oops
17:31  * hoax walks away from 3some
17:31  * Lizmatic pays more attention to BabyBug
17:31 <BabyBug> =D
17:31 <BabyBug> you suck ct|kyle
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17:33 <Lizmatic> lol! poor kyle
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17:47 <Lizmatic> .tea
17:47 <tronner> Lizmatic: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
17:50 <SageLord> .tea
17:50 <tronner> SageLord: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
17:50 <Lizmatic> lol
17:50 <SageLord> :/\
17:52  * Lizmatic has pizza!
17:53 <SageLord> yay pizza :)
17:53 <BabyBug> .pizza
17:53 <SageLord> finally done with school for the holidays :)
17:53 <BabyBug> =(
17:53 <SageLord> just pwnt my engineering math final
17:53 <SageLord> :p
18:03 <hoax> http://i38.tinypic.com/juz953.jpeg
18:04 <SageLord> hahaha
18:04 <SageLord> hoax you don't play wow do you?
18:05 <hoax> hell no
18:05 <hoax> :D
18:05 <SageLord> d:
18:05 <hoax> http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/3221/24mcj1gkq7.jpg
18:05 <hoax> oooookkayyyy
18:06 <Lizmatic> hoax you don't play wow? you nerd
18:06 <Lizmatic> sage do you mostly play pvp or pve?
18:06 <SageLord> i prefer pvp, but most of my friends pve
18:06 <SageLord> :/
18:08 <hoax> wow, & im not talking about the game
18:10 <BabyBug> Lizmatic, you're the nerd =P
18:10 <SageLord> :p
18:10 <Lizmatic> yeah same here.. -_- I hate raiding, I just want to pvp
18:10 <Lizmatic> whateva BabyBug, you're jealous of my fantastic WoW life
18:11 <BabyBug> mmmmm.......... newp =P
18:13 <Lizmatic> http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Trollbane&n=Ayashi gear sucks atm =[ waiting for new pvp sets to come out rrrr.
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18:16  * Lizmatic grumbles
18:19 <SageLord> you pvp as UA
18:19 <SageLord> ?
18:23 <hoax> you two pay to plai ?
18:24 <Lizmatic> UA?
18:24 <Lizmatic> never heard of that one lol
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18:25 <Lizmatic> what does it mean?
18:25 <Lizmatic> and ofc we pay to plai
18:25 <SageLord> unstable affliction? O;
18:25 <hoax> layme
18:25 <e_n_d_e_r> is there a place to sign up for the organized matches?
18:25  * e_n_d_e_r is a noob
18:25 <Lizmatic> yep..
18:25 <e_n_d_e_r> well...
18:25 <Lizmatic> affliction is best for pvp
18:26 <SageLord> really?
18:26 <SageLord> i guess that changed with the expansion?
18:26 <Lizmatic> yeah destro used to be really good.. but not anymore
18:26 <Lizmatic> and demo is just ballz
18:26 <e_n_d_e_r> where liz
18:26 <SageLord> lol i gues no SL/SL locks anymore?
18:26 <e_n_d_e_r> you have a link?
18:26 <hoax> sage sells wow gear to pay for his poker addiction
18:26 <SageLord> haha
18:26 <hoax> which he plays to fund his drug addiction
18:26 <SageLord> other way around hoax :P
18:27 <hoax> lmao
18:27 <K-Yo> e_n_d_e_r, http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Organised_Matches/Matches
18:27 <Lizmatic> e_n_d_e_r: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18873
18:27 <e_n_d_e_r> thanks K!
18:27 <K-Yo> np ;)
18:27 <e_n_d_e_r> and liz lol
18:27 <hoax> he just plays arma to cumdown
18:27 <Lizmatic> ew, hoax
18:27 <SageLord> O_o
18:27 <hoax> o_O
18:27 <K-Yo> e_n_d_e_r, #armagetron.tourneys
18:29 <Lizmatic> but sage is horde, ftl
18:29 <Lizmatic> :D
18:29 <SageLord> pfft
18:29 <SageLord> alliance is for 5 year olds
18:30  * Lizmatic is 18!
18:30 <SageLord> hmm...
18:30 <Lizmatic> horde chars are ugly
18:30 <SageLord> i'm 21 now :)
18:30 <SageLord> birthday is today :p
18:30 <Lizmatic> ooo
18:30 <Lizmatic> happy birthday
18:30 <SageLord> i can go to a casino now :D
18:31 <SageLord> and buy teh alcohols
18:31 <SageLord> thanks :)
18:31 <Lizmatic> and pr0n
18:32 <hoax> sheet sage iz owld
18:32 <hoax> hb man
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18:33  * hoax sets mode +vegas
18:33 <SageLord> thanks hoax :p
18:33 <Lizmatic> what happens in vegas stayyysss in vegas
18:33 <hoax> :]
18:33 <SageLord> [:
18:33 <hoax> lol%
18:34 <SageLord> ;)
18:34 <SageLord> so lets play some tron
18:34  * hoax runs away
18:34 <SageLord> -__-
18:34 <Lizmatic> .tea
18:34 <tronner> Lizmatic: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): -»|freako, -»|hoop, 1200, Flex, ~*DreadLord*~
18:34 <Lizmatic> yesss lets go
18:35 <hoax> [tronner] Lizmatic: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): -»|freako, -»|hoop, 1200, ~*DreadLord*~
18:35 <hoax> would you go then
18:36 <Monkey_arma>  
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18:36 <ct|kyle> o0
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18:36 <ct|kyle> why
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18:37 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: some one is asking for you
18:37 <Monkey_arma>          }`<\/>                <\/>`{
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18:37 <Monkey_arma>     <\/>        B I R T H D A Y        <\/>
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18:37 <Monkey_arma>  
18:37 <Monkey_arma>  
18:38 <ct|kyle> Monkey_arma: what is this your 2 years of tron playing?
18:38 <Monkey_arma> ?
18:38 <Monkey_arma> OH no, it's sage's cake
18:38 <Monkey_arma> but yeah, it is 2 years of tronning for me
18:39 <ct|kyle> i got a year on you
18:39 <Monkey_arma> happy 3rd tronning day to u
18:40 <hoax> wow, fail.
18:51 <SageLord> haha
18:51 <SageLord> thanks monkey :P
18:52 <Monkey_arma> :)
18:54 <Lizmatic> lol monkey
18:54 <Lizmatic> NAKED WOME
18:54 <Lizmatic> N
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19:04 <epsy> #last --from epsy --with msn
19:04 <armabot> epsy: [08:18:07] <epsy> damn msn
19:04 <epsy> #last --from epsy --with stolen
19:04 <armabot> epsy: [08:18:19] <epsy> password got already stolen
19:05 <epsy> I had still forgot to change MSN passwords
19:05 <epsy> guess who just tried to chat with me?
19:05 <luke-jr> bill gates
19:06 <epsy> nope, heh
19:07 <epsy> I actually wonder how he could end on my contact list..he probably added himself yesterday
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19:14 <Lizmatic> yay, cafe crashed again
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19:16 <ct|kyle> Lizmatic: quit letting hoax enter it
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19:18 <Flex> z-man-work, zmanuel - bugfarm is down
19:18 <zmanuel> yes, I posted about it.
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19:20 <epsy> Lizmatic, that's now at least the third time last 2 days
19:21 <epsy> 4th ..
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19:22 <epsy> 5th
19:22 <MrBougo> 5th?
19:22 <MrBougo> #quote get 5
19:22 <armabot> MrBougo: Quote #5: "first the spoon, then the ladle, then the bowl, then the bowl, then the makefiles have a Ni! -- Armabot" (added by Lucifer_arma at 09:41 AM, March 27, 2006)
19:23 <MrBougo> wow
19:23 <epsy> 6 "crashes" since the 16th..
19:23 <epsy> #m wrtlprnft café now "crashed" at least 6 times since yesterday, with return code 0, according to your logs
19:23 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
19:26 <zmanuel> Getting the exit console logs may be a good idea.
19:27 <Lizmatic> everytime I've been in cafe, I end up 'leaving' because it crashes..
19:27 <Lizmatic> why does that happen
19:27 <Lizmatic> ?
19:27 <Lizmatic> (granted, I was grateful, TaZ just came in)
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19:31 <Ady-Lucifer> someone knows any easy http ftp server?
19:31 <MrBougo> windows?
19:31 <Ady-Lucifer> yes
19:31 <MrBougo> filezilla
19:32 <Lizmatic> youve got to be kidding me, it crashed again?
19:32 <epsy> he said server
19:32 <dlh> yeah
19:32 <Ady-Lucifer> server yeah
19:32 <dlh> wrtlprnft: it crashed again
19:32 <MrBougo> epsy, filezilla ftp server then :p
19:32 <MrBougo> http://filezilla-project.org/
19:33 <MrBougo> oh well epsy filezilla server is windows-only while client is multiplatform
19:33 <epsy> #m wrtlprnft 7 times now
19:33 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
19:34 <madmax> hb SageLord o/
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19:41 <SageLord> ty madmax :)
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19:45 <TaZ> Hi all
19:45 <TaZ> and lizmatic
19:46 <SageLord> hi taz
19:46 <hoax> frogs go rrribbitt
19:46 <hoax> not mibbit
19:48 <TaZ> =D, There is nothing wrong with Mibbit
19:48 <TaZ> :P
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19:52 <TaZ> Lucifer: Are you done compiling yet?
19:54 <Lizmatic> TaZ, GTFO already. Nobody wants you in here.
19:56 <TaZ> Lizmatic, you a crackhead.
19:56 <TaZ> are a*
19:57 <TaZ> Also, did I say you coud speal? :P
19:57 <TaZ> speak
19:57 <Lizmatic> learn to type, airhead..
19:57 <TaZ> o/ grammer nazi
19:57 <Lizmatic> grammar*
19:58 <Lizmatic> fail
19:58 <MrBougo> omg
19:58 <TaZ> Ask me if I care?
19:58 <Lizmatic> no
19:58 <TaZ> Go ahead.
19:58 <Lizmatic> no
19:58 <TaZ> Ok then, shut up.
19:58 <TaZ> :)
19:58 <Lizmatic> no
19:58 <TaZ> Lizmatic..nvm
19:58 <Lizmatic> no
20:00 <TaZ> I won't embarrass you like that.
20:01 <TaZ> I don't like calling out people like that.
20:01 <TaZ> :)
20:01 <Lizmatic> no
20:03 <hoax> #sd sumo
20:03 <hoax> #tea
20:03 <armabot> hoax: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo: Players (11/12): bumdiadlzua!, CTxGonZaP, ct|Puuquie, kind of noob, moth, swaffelkoning, TrT~ELICORE, TrT~°DoCtOr°, ubuntu_us3r, [HTF] BENNY, ~|DS|~ GluGGsel
20:03 <armabot> hoax: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
20:03 <TaZ> .weather 28723
20:03 <tronner> TaZ: The current temperature in Snow Hill Falls, Franklin, North Carolina is 60.8°F (2:03 PM EST on December 17, 2008). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 57.2°F. Pressure: 30.06 in 1017.8 hPa (Steady).
20:04 <hoax> .weather cairo, egypt
20:04 <tronner> hoax: The current temperature in Cairo, Egypt is 60.8°F (9:00 PM EET on December 17, 2008). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 51.8°F. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
20:04 <TaZ> oo, is that where you are from?
20:04 <hoax> sure
20:05 <TaZ> lol
20:05 <TaZ> Are you really though?
20:05 <Lizmatic> -_-
20:05 <hoax> chilling with tha pharaohs
20:05 <Lizmatic> .weather poland
20:05 <TaZ> ;S
20:05 <Lizmatic> ha, poland has no weather
20:08 <TaZ> Gah, where is Pink Tomatos?
20:11 <Lizmatic> http://vclclan.com/ wow, this frontpage is so fugl
20:11 <Lizmatic> fugly*
20:14 <TaZ> Lizmatic: Well here are your forums http://xclan.armagetron.co.uk/.  I'm sure if you have a problem with our forums, you can complain about it there.
20:15 <TaZ> 8)
20:16 <Lizmatic> I wasn't talking to you
20:17 <Lizmatic> but that forum you linked looks hawt.. /registrates there
20:18 <TaZ> Lizmatic: But I was talking to you/
20:18 <epsy> does it?
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20:18 <TaZ> I agree, I like x clan forums
20:18 <TaZ> Hey PinkTomato :)
20:18 <PinkTomato> hi hi
20:19 <hoax> zomg pinktom iz at hoeme
20:19 <epsy> heh
20:20 <TaZ> Lizmatic: You have some issues...I hope you get them taken care of. :)
20:20 <TaZ> <3
20:21 <TaZ> PinkTomato: Are you done with exams yet? :o
20:22 <PinkTomato> like hoax said, I'm at home :)
20:23  * hoax expects firshsts frum pink or elsh
20:24 <Lizmatic> TaZ, it's not my fault that you're an angry homosexuals who has issues with women therefor can't leave me alone
20:24 <Lizmatic> blame your dad for that one *wink*
20:24 <Lizmatic> -s
20:25 <PinkTomato> lol hoax :D, I tried... xD
20:25 <hoax> :P
20:26 <hoax> I didn't :(
20:26  * hoax will now \m/
20:26 <PinkTomato> :(
20:26 <PinkTomato> go for it! :D
20:26 <hoax> jaja
20:26 <Lizmatic> reet
20:27 <PinkTomato> sorry if that came wrong...
20:27  * PinkTomato does not know what \m/ is
20:27 <hoax> last year I heard some first year was working @ the mini plant
20:27 <hoax> wtf00k
20:27 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, it's a dude with a weird hair style cheering
20:28 <hoax> armabot pm's me secret commits
20:28 <BabyBug> \o/ <-- That's a bald dude cheering
20:28 <PinkTomato> lol OK babybug :)
20:28 <BabyBug> \Q/ <--- Ask Lucifer about that one.
20:29 <PinkTomato> is it a ponytail?
20:29 <BabyBug> no....
20:29 <PinkTomato> hoax > I didn't hear about the mini plant! that's crazy! not enough time for both .
20:29 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: oh
20:30 <Flex> is it a balloon going left?
20:30 <BabyBug> no....
20:30 <Flex> a man missing his right shoulder?
20:31 <hoax> PinkTomato: you know
20:31 <BabyBug> The \ and / are legs...The O is a head..and the tail from the Q itself is a tongue...I'm sure you can build the picture from that \o/
20:31 <BabyBug> Like i say..That's lucifer's idea =P
20:32 <madmax> are you sure it's a tongue?
20:32 <Lizmatic> omfg
20:32 <Lizmatic> you people ruin emoticons for me
20:32 <PinkTomato> why would you have a tounge for a head
20:33 <madmax> haha
20:33 <BabyBug> ....
20:33  * BabyBug face palms
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20:35  * Lizmatic \Q/ BabyBug
20:35 <BabyBug> ooooo ;D
20:35 <BabyBug> <3
20:36 <TaZ> Lizmatic: Do I have to call you out?
20:36 <TaZ> :)
20:37 <Flex> TaZ, what do you want?
20:38  * TaZ want's Left 4 Dead
20:38 <hoax> heh
20:38 <TaZ> Have yall played it yet?
20:38 <PinkTomato> Please tell me that there is someone here that still needs to start christmas shopping.
20:39 <hoax> only s33n
20:39  * BabyBug raises her hand towards PinkTomato 
20:39 <TaZ> l still need to...
20:39 <BabyBug> well not start
20:39 <PinkTomato> yay! :D
20:39 <BabyBug> need to finish though
20:39 <hoax> ofc PinkTomato, not xmas eve yet
20:39 <PinkTomato> lol hoax :D
20:39 <TaZ> ergh, I hate Christmas shopping. :D
20:39 <PinkTomato> That sounds like me too
20:39 <hoax> doing mine in nyc ftw
20:39 <Flex> lol
20:39 <Lizmatic> lol, hoax
20:39 <Lizmatic> all the way from cairo?!?!
20:40 <hoax> too bad about the exchange rate
20:40 <TaZ> NYC is great
20:40 <Flex> it was good a few weeks ago, actually
20:40 <hoax> i need to check
20:40 <hoax> but
20:40 <hoax> aparently
20:40 <hoax> tourists get 11% off
20:40 <TaZ> :o
20:41 <TaZ> hoax: Make sure you got to the warehouses in NYC.
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20:41 <TaZ> That's where you get stuff for cheap ;)
20:41 <hoax> are muslims allowd in?
20:41 <Lizmatic> thanks, he probably wouldnt have figured that out on his own
20:41 <TaZ> LOL! yes
20:41 <hoax> gay...
20:41 <Lizmatic> hoax, be sure to visit STORES
20:41 <hoax> i dont like them
20:41 <TaZ> xD
20:42 <Lizmatic> and buy STUFF
20:42 <Lizmatic> :D
20:42 <hoax> hmm
20:42 <TaZ> hoax: NYC is a melting pot of people.
20:42 <hoax> interesting Lizmatic ill check it thx
20:42 <TaZ> You'll see everyone form every nationality
20:42 <Flex> visit brooklin bridge, and act like nas while you're there
20:42 <hoax> im going to give a tramp my jacket after i go buy a fuck off new one
20:42 <TaZ> So are you going to visit family?
20:42 <TaZ> lol
20:43 <Lizmatic> when you're done shopping, throw a bomb at one of the buildings cause america sux LULZ
20:43 <Lizmatic> (too much? eh? eh?)
20:43 <TaZ> ...anyway
20:43 <hoax> Flex I'll be sure to rite Flex was here for ya at queensbridge bro
20:43 <TaZ> Be careful of the secret warehouses though, cause police bust them all the time.
20:43 <Flex> lol, alright
20:44 <hoax> damn
20:44 <hoax> no to popo
20:44 <Flex> carry a fofo
20:44 <TaZ> haha, you bringing weed too?
20:44 <TaZ> No, I just kid.
20:45 <hoax> im high on egyptian heat mate
20:45 <TaZ> But Saibot and preSs live there too
20:45 <hoax> no need
20:45 <TaZ> ROFL
20:45 <TaZ> Why do you hate Muslims hoax?  What happeneds if I was a Muslim?
20:46 <Lizmatic> we'd hate you just as much as we do now
20:46 <TaZ> Directed toward hoax, nice try though
20:46 <hoax> when did i say that?
20:47 <TaZ> nvm, you said "i dont like them"
20:48 <hoax> was jk
20:48 <hoax> mohammeds a good friend of mine
20:48 <TaZ> :D
20:48 <hoax> we go throw stones at the local christian monastery here
20:48 <Lizmatic> when there aren't any americans around..
20:48 <Lizmatic> \o/
20:49 <TaZ> Ugh hoax, you're going to hell
20:49 <TaZ> I'm not cause I'm Catholic
20:49 <hoax> nice
20:50 <hoax> and warm
20:50 <hoax> ill hook up with anubis
20:51 <hoax> he haz g00d sh33t
20:53 <TaZ> heh
20:55 <TaZ> Why are you going to nyc again?
20:55 <PinkTomato> surely hoax is not scared of hell
20:55 <PinkTomato> so how can you use that as a threat ;)
20:55 <TaZ> Don't you need a guardian
20:55 <Lizmatic> guardian.. lmao
20:55 <Lizmatic> taz, your mommy and daddy don't leave you alone much huh?
20:56 <hoax> ill pick one up TaZ
20:56 <TaZ> Lizmatic: Are you obsessed with me or something??
20:56 <hoax> gets inported from london
20:56 <PinkTomato> it's probably not a good idea to start talking about religon here...
20:56 <hoax> will make for good reading on the plane
20:56 <TaZ> Lizmatic: Like serious, you just seem to stalk me around
20:56 <epsy> BLAH BLAH BLAH
20:56 <TaZ> PinkTomato: lol
20:56 <Lizmatic> PinkTomato: why, any religious freaks here? *gets out bat*
20:56 <TaZ> Christianity
20:56 <hoax> amen epsy
20:56 <TaZ> GO!
20:56  * TaZ is a christian 
20:57 <Lizmatic> so?
21:01 <TaZ> I'm not going to be one of those Bible nuts that spew out verses
21:01 <TaZ> :D
21:04 <TaZ> epsy
21:04 <TaZ> Your MSN got hacked
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21:05 <epsy> bad cat, baad cat!
21:06 <ivantis2> at school again
21:06 <ivantis2> being bored
21:06 <TaZ> heh
21:06 <epsy> in bathroom class?
21:06 <ivantis2> no
21:06 <ivantis2> im in an afterschool thing
21:06 <TaZ> epsy, did you hear me?
21:07 <ivantis2> wait... why havent i left yet?
21:07 <epsy> TaZ, look at logs
21:07 <epsy> 18 gmt
21:08 <epsy> (19 cest on the logs)
21:08 <TaZ> Where are logs again?
21:08 <epsy>  /topic
21:09 <ivantis2> http://armagetron.irclogs.space-lab.us
21:11 <TaZ> oh ok. I was just telling you though, it case you didn't know,
21:11 <TaZ> in*
21:11 <epsy> err..what was cloaket's MSN already? I still have chatlogs but deleted him(as I never wanted him on my buddy list)
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21:12 <TaZ> Well at least he changed it back to your old pw, and didn't delete contacts.
21:13 <epsy> He connected, added himself in my buddy list, then I rapidly had reconnected
21:14 <TaZ> He could have done a lot worse
21:14 <TaZ> Consider yourself lucky.
21:14 <epsy> yeah, I do
21:15 <epsy> maybe I should report him to the msn staff, if there's any way to do so
21:15 <BabyBug> how did he get your password in the first place...
21:16 <TaZ> phishing site
21:16 <epsy> @g site:forums.armagetronad.net outraged
21:16 <teabot> epsy: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18793&sid=2fcf2193d3fdbc0e56747b808e6b8796 - Armagetron Forums :: View topic - Outraged by a topic on SP.
21:16 <BabyBug> oo that thing
21:17 <Lizmatic> epsy, you got hacked?
21:17 <epsy> nope
21:17 <BabyBug> he got tricked!
21:17 <TaZ> It's funny cause I pm'ed ct|kyle like 2 days ago and told him to change his pw.  Then he assured me that everyone, including epsy, had already changed their pws
21:18 <hoax> epsy, abuse<emailhosthost>
21:18 <epsy> I have a LOT of accounts to edit, and I always forget what accounts I have where
21:18 <hoax> er, -host
21:19 <epsy> now is it at live.com, homtail.com or msn.com?
21:19 <BabyBug> or hotmail.co.yk
21:19 <BabyBug> uk*
21:19 <ct|kyle> TaZ: well epsy said he did
21:20 <hoax> epsy, whatever his email is
21:20 <TaZ> heh, I guess that wasn't the case
21:20 <hoax> what is it
21:20 <epsy> hoax, yeah
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21:22 <hoax> is it @msn or @hotmail ?
21:22 <epsy> msn.com
21:22 <hoax> lucky u, if not - We are sorry, the page you requested cannot be found. :D
21:23 <hoax> rep to abusemsn.com
21:23 <hoax> whoop whoop
21:25 <akira_arma> .tea
21:26 <tronner> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (3/32): -+:fain-, ~|DS|~ GluGGsel, ~|DS|~|Hype|~
21:28 <Lizmatic> wow.. that cloaket stuff is hilarious
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21:38 <ChickENZ00> Hay yall
21:38 <ChickENZ00> wotsup
21:41 <Lizmatic> ...who you be
21:41 <ChickENZ00> Hi
21:41 <ChickENZ00> Liz
21:41 <ChickENZ00> How old are you?
21:41 <TaZ> hi
21:42 <ChickENZ00> Veary
21:42 <Lizmatic> hi cloaket
21:42 <ChickENZ00> Veary.
21:42 <Lizmatic> are you in jail or not yet?
21:42 <ChickENZ00> What the fuck are you talking about?
21:42 <Lizmatic> you know, cloaket
21:43 <ChickENZ00> Epsy?
21:43 <ChickENZ00> Lmao
21:43 <TaZ> ...lol
21:43 <ChickENZ00> And the ww server shit
21:43 <Lizmatic> definitly cloaket
21:44 <epsy> what about msn.com ?
21:44 <ChickENZ00> What about msn.com?
21:44 <epsy> good question
21:44 <Lizmatic> you'll get what you deserve, cloaket
21:44 <Lizmatic> ;)
21:44 <ChickENZ00> Ok dumb bitch
21:44 <TaZ> lol
21:44 <ChickENZ00> Fucking network illiterate fools
21:45 <ChickENZ00> Cartoon dog fuck
21:45 <Lizmatic> that's us
21:45 <ChickENZ00> Wiat no
21:46 <ChickENZ00> plz dont send me 2 jail
21:46 <ChickENZ00> plz dont sue me 4 five hundred grand
21:46 <ChickENZ00> ill do anything  .!
21:46 <ChickENZ00> I'll pay the server costs for 2 months
21:49 <ChickENZ00> HOW DO I GOT B&?
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21:49 <ChickENZ00> monkey
21:49 <ChickENZ00> nigra
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21:49 <Lizmatic> can anyone in this place kick?
21:49 <ChickENZ00> LMAO
21:50 <ChickENZ00> Liz
21:50 <Lizmatic> epsy, ?
21:50 <ChickENZ00> You are butthurt.
21:50 <ChickENZ00> Epsy
21:50 <ChickENZ00> You're lucky I didn't really fuck up your msn account
21:50 <ChickENZ00> Because I didn't really give a fuck.
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21:53 <ChickENZ00> Why has everyone gone so shy?
21:53 <TaZ> ChickENZ00: Calm down, liz is pregnant
21:53 <ChickENZ00> How old is she?
21:53 <ChickENZ00> Lmao
21:53 <ChickENZ00> Epsy
21:54 <ChickENZ00> Wake up, Nigger.
21:54  * Lizmatic sighs
21:55 <ChickENZ00> Liz
21:55 <RichiH> ChickENZ00: did you have a chance to read the freenode philosophy page?
21:55 <ChickENZ00> You're veary dumb.
21:55 <ChickENZ00> No
21:55 <ChickENZ00> That's shit nobody cares about
21:55 <Lizmatic> Oh, really?
21:56 <ChickENZ00> Richi
21:56 <ChickENZ00> Who are you in Arma?
21:56 <ChickENZ00> Nigger Nigger Monkey
21:56 <RichiH> ChickENZ00: pity
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21:56 <epsy> thank you :)
21:57 <ErrantEgo> wow
21:57 <Lizmatic> haha, he didn't notice the letters that said FREENODE STAFF? tool..
21:57 <TaZ> RichiH
21:58 <TaZ> Can you also kick Lizmatic?
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21:58 <ChickENZ00> Munkey
21:58 <ErrantEgo> please don't ban evade.
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21:59 <TaZ> ...That kid is unstoppable...
21:59 <Lizmatic> TaZ, join him in his trollwars please
21:59 <Lizmatic> you're no different
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22:00 <TaZ> I'm no troll Lizmatic
22:00 <TaZ> But please do, grow up.
22:00 <Lizmatic> <TaZ> Can you also kick Lizmatic?
22:00 <Lizmatic> I'm going to silence you and be done with it
22:00 <TaZ> It was a honest question...geez
22:00  * Lizmatic goes off to read a book o/
22:04 <BabyBug> \o hunni
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22:06 <hoax> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww
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22:06 <TaZ> That is sooo old Hoax xD
22:07 <hoax> I lol'd
22:07 <akira_arma> .tea
22:07 <tronner> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (8/32): %|% Corn, Desolate (Desolate@forums), Levey, tehe:P, ~|DS|~zion, ~|DS|~|Alien|~, ~|DS|~|Hype|~, ~|DS|~|JS|~
22:11  * Lizmatic finished the book
22:11  * Lizmatic owns o/
22:11 <BabyBug> phail
22:11 <Lizmatic> wat
22:12 <BabyBug> you heard =P
22:12 <Lizmatic> no..lalala
22:12 <Lizmatic> go to sleep BabyBug
22:13 <BabyBug> i will soon =)
22:13 <Lizmatic> good giiirl
22:17 <hoax> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rosies-Walk-Pat-Hutchins/dp/009941399X
22:17 <hoax> ftw
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22:27 <Lizmatic> ^ \o/
22:33 <dlh> .tea
22:33 <tronner> dlh: Fortress Café: Players (14/32): -=VcL.NinjA, -»|freako, -»|hoop, 51 55 41 52 47, <<~luAp~>>, blabu, Black Shadow, Desolate (Desolate@forums), epsy¦×¦ (epsy@x/member), Lackadaisical, m30w, ~|DS|~G5, ~|DS|~|JS|~, ¦×¦ Liza (Liza@x/member)
22:38 <BabyBug> Coming Lizmatic? =D
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23:45 <TaZ> hi
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00:57 <Corn> hey
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01:27 <mib_q5zqkw> any color codes
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02:42 <Cloaket> Hayyyy
02:43 <Cloaket> Wotsup guise
02:44 <Cloaket> Ass Niggers
02:46 <Corn> dude your really annoying
02:46 <Corn> #kill Cloaket
02:46 <armabot> Cloaket will die on Thu Dec 18 02:46:45 2008 due to being stabbed in the eye by Corn
02:51 <Cloaket> Cawnbread
02:52 <Cloaket> Corn is shy
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02:55 <e_n_d_e_r> has anyone compiled in windows?
02:56 <Cloaket> Compiled what?
02:56 <Cloaket> Tron source code?
02:56 <e_n_d_e_r> a dedicated
02:56 <e_n_d_e_r> 4yes
02:57 <Cloaket> Maybe
02:57 <e_n_d_e_r> lol
02:57 <e_n_d_e_r> so you havent
02:57 <Cloaket> You have to include something else
02:57 <e_n_d_e_r> ?
02:57 <Cloaket> Tron was originally compiled on unix I'm pretty sure.
02:57 <e_n_d_e_r> codeblocks
02:58 <Cloaket> What about code blocks?
02:58 <e_n_d_e_r> ive followed the wiki info and im stuck
02:58 <Cloaket> Skiddieboy
02:58 <Cloaket> Give up
02:58 <e_n_d_e_r> well, i dont want to
02:59 <e_n_d_e_r> id really like to apply some hacks to my server
02:59 <Cloaket> I'd really like to apply some hacks to every other server and fuck everything up.
02:59 <e_n_d_e_r> ok...
03:00 <e_n_d_e_r> so you cant/wont help
03:00 <Cloaket> Wont
03:00 <e_n_d_e_r> thanks
03:00 <Cloaket> I have no reason to.
03:01 <e_n_d_e_r> well then im not asking you
03:01 <Cloaket> Then gtfo
03:01 <e_n_d_e_r> nope
03:01 <e_n_d_e_r> you
03:01 <Cloaket> Make me.
03:01 <Corn> ...
03:01 <Cloaket> Corn
03:01 <Cloaket> Suck my cornbreyawd.
03:01 <Corn> Crocket
03:02 <Cloaket> Corn
03:02 <Cloaket> Come on TS
03:02 <Corn> Team sumo?
03:02 <Cloaket> veary
03:02 <Cloaket> wild west public TS server
03:02 <Corn> Fine.
03:03 <Corn> @ls Clocket
03:04 <teabot> Corn: timed out
03:04 <Cloaket> Nigger Monkey Monkey
03:04 <Cloaket> Nigger Monkey Monkey
03:04 <Cloaket> Nigger Monkey Monkey
03:04 <Cloaket> Nigger Monkey Monkey
03:04 <Cloaket> Nigger Monkey Monkey
03:04 <Cloaket> Nigger Monkey Monkey
03:04 <Cloaket> Nigger Monkey Monkey
03:04 <Cloaket> Nigger Monkey Monkey
03:04 <Cloaket> Nigger Monkey Monkey
03:04 <Cloaket> Nigger Monkey Monkey
03:04 <Corn> will you piss off
03:04 <Cloaket> Nigger Monkey Monkey
03:04 <Cloaket> Nigger Monkey Monkey
03:04 <Cloaket> Nigger Monkey Monkey
03:04 <Cloaket> Nigger Monkey Monkey
03:04 <Cloaket> Nigger Monkey Monkey
03:04 <Cloaket> Nigger Monkey Monkey
03:04 <Cloaket> Nigger Monkey Monkey
03:04 <Cloaket> Nigger Monkey Monkey
03:04 <Cloaket> Nigger Monkey Monkey
03:04 <Cloaket> Nigger Monkey Monkey
03:04 <Cloaket> Nigger Monkey Monkey
03:04 <Cloaket> Nigger Monkey Monkey
03:04 <Cloaket> Nigger Monkey Monkey
03:04 <Cloaket> SORRY
03:04 <Corn> if you are interested....
03:05 <Cloaket> DAT WUZ JUST A TEST
03:05 <Corn> @ls corn
03:05 <Cloaket> XDDDDDDDDDDDD
03:05 <teabot> Corn: .:] Corn has last been seen on Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!) 1 hour 41 minutes ago.
03:05 <madmax> Lucifer: hello
03:05 <Cloaket> Nigger Monkey Monkey
03:05 <Cloaket> Nigger Monkey Monkey
03:05 <Cloaket> Nigger Monkey Monkey
03:05 <Cloaket> Nigger Monkey Monkey
03:05 <Cloaket> Nigger Monkey Monkey
03:05 <Cloaket> Nigger Monkey Monkey
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03:06 <Cloaket> lul
03:06 <e_n_d_e_r>  oh yay wb
03:06 <Cloaket> Nigger Monkey Monkey
03:06 <Cloaket> Nigger Monkey Monkey
03:06 <Cloaket> Nigger Monkey Monkey
03:06 <Cloaket> Nigger Monkey Monkey
03:06 <Cloaket> Nigger Monkey Monkey
03:06 <Cloaket> Nigger Monkey Monkey
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03:07 <Corn> that kid needs a hobby
03:07 <e_n_d_e_r> haha
03:07 <madmax> a hobby like smashing his head against a wall
03:07 <e_n_d_e_r> that would work
03:09 <hoax> am I a bad person for not liking the lack of physical violence you can use on the internet
03:09 <madmax> no.
03:09 <hoax> :D
03:09 <e_n_d_e_r> hehe
03:10 <madmax> http://bash.org/?4281
03:10 <hoax> damn white geeky usa kids, nigga this nigga that
03:10 <madmax> yeah not very creative
03:11 <hoax> haha yeah like that quote
03:11 <e_n_d_e_r> i guess i should just get linux
03:12 <madmax> theres was someone trying to build on windows on the forums
03:12 <madmax> you could try following that thread
03:13 <e_n_d_e_r> i dont think they were successful either lol
03:13 <hoax> doesn't wrtlprnft build windows
03:14 <madmax> no idea…
03:16 <madmax> well I'm out, gnight
03:17 <e_n_d_e_r> night
03:17 <hoax> nn
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03:18 <madmax> oh wait, before that, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0Yryb15n0s
03:19 <hoax> lol ye, multi fail
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04:17 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o Lucifer] by ChanServ
04:17 -!- mode/#armagetron [+b help!*@*] by Lucifer
04:17 <@Lucifer> er., pp[s
04:17 -!- mode/#armagetron [-b help!*@*] by Lucifer
04:18 -!- mode/#armagetron [+b *!user@] by Lucifer
04:18 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o Lucifer] by Lucifer
04:21 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: pointless to do that, IP is dynamic :P
04:22 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: you don't really believe that bans are a long-term solution, do you?
04:23 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: nope, but i was just looking into that IP range earlyer
04:23 <Lucifer> ahhh, heh
04:23 <Lucifer> one of the reasons we try not to ban too much (and hopefully regularly review the banlist and remove old bans) is because they're dynamic
04:23 <Lucifer> most people, even with dynamic IP addresses, take several days at least before it changes
04:23 <ct|kyle> i was thinking if i banned 75.*.*.* i would be banning a lot more tron players than just him
04:24 <Lucifer> that's usually long enough to make the point, and whoever the smeghead is will give up
04:24 <ct|kyle> that range can change within the day
04:24 <Lucifer> anyway, the ban I laid on was pretty weak anyway, because he can just change his username and come back
04:24 <Lucifer> well, that's why I said "most people"
04:25 <Lucifer> it's usually worth it, if you can ban someone within a few hours, to go ahead and do that
04:25 <Lucifer> it's best to get them at the moment, because they seem to cool off quicker
04:25 <Lucifer> but nobody was here to do it when he was here
04:25 <Lucifer> anyway, no ban here is permanent because most people have dynamic IP addresses
04:26 <ct|kyle> heh, ya he was on CTWF today, and that IP was not used
04:26 <Lucifer> afaik, there's at least two people who might be using that name
04:27 <ct|kyle> that is the person related to http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18793&start=0
04:27 <Lucifer> grrr, why is it taking so long for my beard to grow back?  :(
04:28 <Lucifer> yeah, that's the one
04:28  * Lucifer yawns
04:28  * Lucifer is sleepy
04:39  * e_n_d_e_r is so frustrated
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05:07 <luke-jr> wow
05:07 <luke-jr> the current trunk still contains significant code from rev 2 (z-man's initial commit0
05:09 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: naturally it would
05:09 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: not necessarily
05:09 <luke-jr> I was only expecting insignificant stuff like blank lines and copyrights
05:10 <ct|kyle> ah
05:14 <ct|kyle> RichiH: Everything is fine here now, we did have a spammer an hour or so ago
05:15 <ct|kyle> wow that auto PM's for away on a staff member
05:18 <luke-jr> wow, we had a troll?
05:19 <luke-jr> a stupid troll at that, talking back to staff XD
05:19 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: yes, (21:06:53) Cloaket: Nigger Monkey Monkey
05:21 <luke-jr> yeah, just read
05:22 <luke-jr> Lucifer: try shaving it more
05:22 <luke-jr> shaving seems to make it grow faster
05:23 -!- Nickname [n=user@adsl-75-2-254-45.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #armagetron
05:23 <Nickname> veary
05:23 -!- Nickname is now known as Cloaket
05:23 <luke-jr> err
05:23 <Cloaket> By an veary
05:23 <luke-jr> RichiH: looks like we do still need you
05:23 <Cloaket> Don't
05:23 <Cloaket> I want to be friend now
05:23 <Cloaket> :)
05:23 <luke-jr> too late?
05:23 <luke-jr> you're ban evading
05:23 <Cloaket> So?
05:24 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o Lucifer] by ChanServ
05:24 <Cloaket> I just want to be friend
05:24 -!- mode/#armagetron [+b *!*@*.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] by Lucifer
05:24 -!- Cloaket was kicked from #armagetron by Lucifer [Lucifer]
05:25 <luke-jr> wtf is 0irc?
05:25 <ct|kyle> i told you Lucifer
05:25 <@Lucifer> you saw his hostmask this time?
05:25 <@Lucifer> totally different than last time :)
05:26 <ct|kyle> not really
05:26 <ct|kyle> just different IP in it
05:26 <@Lucifer> user@adsl-75-2-254-45.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net vs user@
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05:26 <@Lucifer> same IP actually
05:27 <@Lucifer> maybe I should deop and let the staffers handle it?  ;)
05:27 <ct|kyle> n=user@adsl-75-2-254-45.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net  i had that the first time
05:27 <nalioth> who? what?
05:28 <@Lucifer> ct|kyle just gave the hostmask
05:28 <@Lucifer> I didn't have that the first time, I had the other one
05:28 <luke-jr> nalioth: Lucifer kickbanned him, but he's been K-lined twice today
05:28 <luke-jr> will likely be back shortly
05:28 <nalioth> not from the same IP, i'll wager
05:28 <@Lucifer> hmmm, anybody with admin/owner privileges with armabot?
05:29 <luke-jr> nalioth: ADSL dynamic it seems
05:29 <hoax> Lucifer: wrtlprnft :|
05:29 <nalioth> orly?
05:30 <luke-jr> n=user@adsl-75-3-4-241.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net  n=user@  n=user@adsl-75-2-254-45.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net  n=user@  n=user@adsl-75-2-254-45.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net
05:30 <@Lucifer> wrtlprnft is never here at this time
05:30 <nalioth> someone can PM me the IPs used today by this gentleman?
05:30 <nalioth> or that
05:30 <luke-jr> curious the RDNS is flaky, it seems
05:30 <luke-jr> really 2 IPs total
05:30  * Lucifer has noticed that
05:31 <@Lucifer> I hate to suggest more police, but it seems an op-bot might be helpful here
05:32 <luke-jr> or guru3 could op more people and set a policy to only kick trolls/flooders
05:32 <@Lucifer> nah, guru3 knows the first rule of command :)
05:32 <@Lucifer> never give an order that won't be obeyed
05:32 <luke-jr> heh, in #anime we op everyone pretty much
05:32 <luke-jr> works out decent
05:32 <@Lucifer> but a bot that manages ops would help a lot, because we could let lots of people do op things through the bot
05:33 <luke-jr> ah, I see what you're saying
05:33 <@Lucifer> then if an op gets out of hand, kill the bot
05:33 <nalioth> easy solution:  ban 75.2.* and 75.3.* in here
05:33 <nalioth> just don't forget to take it off in a couple of days
05:33 <@Lucifer> nalioth: our general concern is banning other armagetron players that are from teh same range
05:34 <ct|kyle> nalioth: that bans a bunch of chicago, I know quite a few players in those ISP ranges
05:34 <nalioth> Lucifer: i used my super cow powers and only found one user on one of those IPs
05:34 <nalioth> you can always +q instead of +b
05:34 <@Lucifer> wow, you have super cow powers?
05:34 <nalioth> mooooo
05:35 <luke-jr> nalioth: really? I found about 50 FreeNode users on that range.
05:35 <luke-jr> /who adsl-75-2* /who adsl-75-3*
05:35 <@Lucifer> ah, he's probably only checking this channel users
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05:35 <nalioth> yes, we're only concerend with this channel
05:35 <luke-jr> oops, forgot a -
05:35 <luke-jr> 2 people across FreeNode actually
05:36 <@Lucifer> is it possible to explicitly exclude particular IP's?
05:36 <nalioth> Lucifer: no comprende
05:36 <@Lucifer> so, like, we could do a little redirect to a different channel where people who aren't trolling could ask us to let them in
05:36 <@Lucifer> it's too much work for this particular troll, so I'm asking for future problems ;)
05:36 <xfroggy> don't worry about luke-jr, I'm here now, we will prove your innocence...don't tell them nuttin
05:36 <luke-jr> Lucifer: you asking for PM spam?
05:36 <luke-jr> xfroggy: wtf?
05:36 <@Lucifer> luke-jr: no, anybody who can PM wouldn't need the redirect
05:37 <xfroggy> it's all going to be alright, I believe you didn't do it luke-jr
05:37 <@Lucifer> xfroggy: he's guilty as sin, as usual
05:37 <luke-jr> Lucifer: ah, true; I forget cuz I allow PMs from un-regged ppl
05:37 <xfroggy> no he ain't!
05:37 <nalioth> luke-jr: of course.  a forwarding ban will work fine for that
05:37 <luke-jr> nalioth: but can we place specific-IPs in a ban-exception list?
05:38 <nalioth> sure you can
05:38 <nalioth> For tips and information on channel and user modes and management, see http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
05:38 <nalioth> join #ubuntu and see how mibbit users are treated
05:39 <nalioth> it's mode +e (but don't give it out too freely, as it's a 'get out of jail free' card from any bans/quiets, etc)
05:39 <@Lucifer> heh, what's wrong with mibbit users?  ;)
05:39 <nalioth> nothing
05:39 <xfroggy> mibbit racists
05:40 <nalioth> it's the ban avoiding mibbit using trolls we don't like
05:41 <@Lucifer> well, I'm going to eat and watch some star trek
05:41 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o luke-jr] by Lucifer
05:41 <@Lucifer> you do something :)
05:42 <xfroggy> jeez how I ended up missing out on #arma trolls :-/
05:42 <@Lucifer> if you want to ban the ip range for a few hours until the troll cools down, I'm cool with that, just say something so someone can remember to unban
05:42 <@luke-jr> ok
05:42 <@luke-jr> I'll wait and see if he rejoins
05:42 <@Lucifer> I'll be here, so y'all can ping me if you need to
05:42 <nalioth> yes, quite.
05:43 <nalioth> you know staff isn't ion the access list here, right?
05:43 <@Lucifer> it's going to be Shore Leave tonight
05:43 <@Lucifer> I did not, are they supposed to be?
05:43 <@luke-jr> nalioth: I don't think anyone present can change that.
05:43 <@Lucifer> no, only guru3
05:43 <@luke-jr> Lucifer: if we want FreeNode staff to assist in here, beyond K-lines, I think
05:44 <@luke-jr> s/beyond/other than/
05:54  * hoax runs away now luke-jr haz powah :|
05:54 <@luke-jr> -.-
05:54 <xfroggy> nah ah, now its time to boycott, not run away
05:54 <hoax> :D
05:55 <@luke-jr> ……
05:56 <xfroggy> ...
05:56 <xfroggy> @_@
05:56 <hoax> x_X
05:57 <xfroggy> :|
05:58 <hoax> xfroggy u check any decent manga recently
05:58 <xfroggy> manga...pff who watches that
05:59 <hoax> i thought u were into that shite etc
06:00 <xfroggy> :-/
06:00 <xfroggy> ...im into frogs
06:00 <hoax> get luke to hook you up :D
06:01 <xfroggy> now there's a scary thought
06:07 <@luke-jr> I used to like frogs.
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06:15 <xfroggy> :D
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