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Log from 2008-12-10:
--- Day changed Wed Dec 10 2008
00:00 <sinewav> @ windows
00:00 <luke-jr> Konversation 4 should support Windows, but that seems like a ways off
00:00 <luke-jr> s/4/whatever's next
00:00 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: you can install it on windows i think (let me go see :P)
00:00 <sinewav> I'll be switching OS as soon as they stop making software for XP
00:01 <luke-jr> sinewav: XP has no useful software :D
00:01 <ct|kyle> switch before then, get used to linux
00:01 <sinewav> haha, yeah I sould, but it's hard to leave something comfortable. I don't hate it enough yet
00:02 <ct|kyle> but i use pidgin
00:02 <luke-jr> I switched completely when XP came out
00:02 <ct|kyle> get vista :P
00:02 <luke-jr> I think I used XP like a week
00:02 <luke-jr> then wiped it
00:02 <ct|kyle> i used vista for a month, they never went back
00:02 <luke-jr> last Windoze I really used was Win2k
00:03 <sinewav> The only reason I have XP was because I was working on some video project and needed the NTFS to complete the project
00:03 <ct|kyle> they really fucked it up between RC1 and RC2
00:03 <luke-jr> sinewav: Linux has full NTFS support now
00:03 <sinewav> Awesome
00:04  * sinewav is downloading pidgin...
00:04 <ct|kyle> heh my XP copy is fucked up
00:04 <luke-jr> pidgin sucks
00:04 <sinewav> Hey Kyle, I'm thinking about killing the Advanced Racing server, what are your thoughts?
00:05 <ct|kyle> i don't care, up to you, i can always clone it :P
00:05 <sinewav> like: I'll find that out soon enough...
00:05 <luke-jr> hey
00:05 <sinewav> hey
00:05 <luke-jr> sinewav: what would you think if I offered an alternate hosting plan
00:05 <luke-jr> like $5/mo with unlimited slots and servers
00:06 <sinewav> alternate me baby!
00:06 <luke-jr> but charged for bandwidth
00:06 <luke-jr> I suspect people wouldn't like it cuz the cost changes
00:06 <luke-jr> but i could leave the usual flat fee ones too
00:06 <sinewav> I'd have to check my stats. can you send me my montly usage?
00:06 <luke-jr> hah
00:06 <luke-jr> I have no measurement per server now
00:06 <luke-jr> :þ
00:07 <luke-jr> I can hackishly have iptables measure your user's upload I htink
00:07 <sinewav> well, it's hard to make an informed decision that way! I'm interested though
00:07 <luke-jr> :þ
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00:07 <luke-jr> I suppose I could make it pre-pay too
00:07 <luke-jr> and if you run out of funds, your server gets disabled
00:07 <luke-jr> until you add more
00:08 <luke-jr> that would work good for donation-funded servers I think :o
00:08 <sinewav> proly
00:08 <luke-jr> u r djv?
00:08 <sinewav> yes
00:08 <sinewav> djvision
00:09 <luke-jr> ok, added an iptables counter
00:09 <luke-jr> 3.4 KB so far
00:09 <luke-jr> :þ
00:10 <luke-jr> I wonder if I can get rid of the flat fee altogether
00:11 <luke-jr> or rather, have a 100% bandwidth-based plan
00:11 <luke-jr> (disk space isn't usually an issue)
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00:12 <luke-jr> heh, that particular machine is using 400 KB/sec upload constantly
00:12 <sinewav> Wow
00:13 <luke-jr> sinewav: you just hit 40 KB
00:13 <sinewav> I like the stable price factor, helps me budget better.
00:13 <sinewav> `haha
00:13 <sinewav> `ok then
00:13 <luke-jr> ☺
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00:15 <sinewav> luke: I'm thinking I might kill the racing server and replace it with a fortress-like server I had there before. I'll send you an email with the details.
00:16 <sinewav> Or maybe just add another?
00:16 <sinewav> mayber fewer slots on the race server?
00:16 <sinewav> `I dunno
00:16 <fonkay> Lucifer: I still consider myself dropped out.
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00:33 <Ratchet--> no no
00:33 <Ratchet--> i need help with tron on ubuntu
00:33 <Ratchet--> not ubuntu problems
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01:05 <luke-jr> sinewav connection issues?
01:05 <luke-jr> hm, interesting
01:05 <sinewav2> Heh, Pidgin. Yeah, kinda lame
01:05 <sinewav2> I'll have to try something else
01:05 <luke-jr> on this particular machine, there are 2 users that each have used more bandwidth than all the other users combined :o
01:06 <luke-jr> sinewav is one :þ
01:06 <P4> .xers
01:06 <tronner> This data is 48 seconds old: |x| FoFo@Fortress Café - Ct's  Clone (4/32)  This data is 48 seconds old: ¦×¦ Black_ha@Fortress Café - Ct's  Clone (4/32)
01:06 <luke-jr> but you have 3 servers, so that's understandable
01:06  * P4 ment good night
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01:07 <luke-jr> VCL clan is using even more than sinewav, and they only have 1 server :O
01:07 <sinewav3> wow
01:08 <ct|kyle> o0 4 sinewav's here
01:08 <sinewav3> wtf is with the gay pidgin program...grrr
01:08 <ct|kyle> it is on MS nothing works there
01:08 <luke-jr> lol
01:08 <ct|kyle> I put KDE on it and now MS sent me a virus
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01:09 <luke-jr> hm
01:10  * luke-jr ponders a package with only bandwidth fees, and the first 5 MB free or something.
01:10 <luke-jr> Bet I'd finally need to automate new accounts :/
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01:10 <luke-jr> and then I'd have to worry about throwaway accounts :/
01:11 <luke-jr> maybe just a setup fee to avoid scammers
01:11 <ct|kyle> 5MB is quite a bit, i think that is all CTWF takes in a month
01:11 <luke-jr> ok, maybe not 5 MB then XD
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01:12 <ct|kyle> sinewav* having fun :P
01:12 <luke-jr> in 1 hour, the average seems to be about 150 KB
01:12 <luke-jr> sinewav is 3.5 MB
01:12 <luke-jr> VCL clan is 5.2 MB
01:12  * luke-jr wonders how the heck VCL clan is eating so much bw
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01:12 <luke-jr> …
01:12 <sinewav5> omg i'm on wireless and everytime I drop signal it logs on again
01:12 <ct|kyle> lol
01:12 <sinewav5> `fuck this pidgin
01:13 <sinewav5> `grr
01:13 <luke-jr> sinewav5: err yeah, that's Windowsw
01:13 <sinewav5> bye
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01:13 <ct|kyle> heh, i only drop my lan once a day :P
01:14 <luke-jr> ok
01:14 <luke-jr> MAJOR wtf here
01:14 <luke-jr> vclclan's server is EMPTY
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01:14 <luke-jr> and has been all day?
01:16 <ct|kyle> heh
01:16 <ct|kyle> they are using it for p2p downloading
01:16 <luke-jr> impossible
01:16 <luke-jr> :/
01:16 <ct|kyle> file sharing site
01:16 <luke-jr> they don't have a site hosted
01:16 <luke-jr> and the webserver isn't being counted
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01:16 <ct|kyle> oh
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01:21 <ct|kyle> .si >> Advanced racing
01:21 <tronner> ct|kyle: Adventures of TRON >> Advanced Racing <<: Players (5/9): spark!, VMK Sammypup, WatchMeGo, ^ICP^ Blaze, ^ICP^ Br3l3n
01:21 <ct|kyle> and it never gets used :P
01:22 <luke-jr> lol
01:22 <luke-jr> oh
01:22 <luke-jr> the 150 KB/hr
01:22 <luke-jr> is an empty server
01:22 <luke-jr> no clue why vclclan is using so much tho
01:22 <luke-jr> :/
01:23 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: uh
01:23 <luke-jr> no way CTWF only uses 5 MB /mo
01:23 <luke-jr> based on the current statistics
01:23 <luke-jr> an empty server uses 105 MB/mo just answering server list polls
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01:24 <luke-jr> in the case of sinewav's servers, he used up 5 MB in about 30 minutes
01:24 <luke-jr> XD
01:25 <ct|kyle> 5GB maybe :P
01:26 <luke-jr> yeah
01:26 <luke-jr> probably
01:27 <luke-jr> sinewav's avg looks like ~7.2 GB/mo atm
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01:27 <luke-jr> but it's not night yet
01:27 <luke-jr> so it will probably be less
01:27 <luke-jr> sinewav: I'm considering a penny per MB
01:27 <luke-jr> :þ
01:27 <sinewav> haha
01:28 <luke-jr> sinewav: the past hour, you used 10 MB
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01:28  * luke-jr ponders a sliding scale
01:28 <sinewav> Ok, let's figure this out. My billing cycle starts tomorrow.
01:28 <luke-jr> lol
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01:30 <sinewav> thank god stupid sinewav4 left. what a prick
01:30 <ct|kyle> heh
01:31 <luke-jr> sinewav: I think I'll probably need at least a month's measurement before I commit
01:31 <sinewav> sure, we'll work it out later.
01:33 <luke-jr> my current draft plan would put you at $93/mo if your server continues at the same rate as the past hour
01:33 <luke-jr> I suspect night will reduce that quite a bit
01:33 <luke-jr> current idea:
01:33 <sinewav> yikes!
01:33 <luke-jr> $10 setup charge
01:33 <luke-jr> 100 MB/mo included
01:33 <luke-jr> Up to 1 GB, 2 cents/MB (total 1 GB costs $18)
01:34 <luke-jr> Up to 5 GB, 1 cent/MB (total 5 GB costs $58.96)
01:34 <luke-jr> Beyond that, 2 MB/penny (total 8 GB costs $92.32)
01:35 <luke-jr> hmm
01:35 <luke-jr> I think my maths are off
01:35 <sinewav> I can't believe I use that much bandwidth, wow. my games are far from popular. 8-.
01:35 <luke-jr> :o
01:36 <luke-jr> 100 MB/mo included because that's what an empty server seems to use ☺
01:37 <PinkTomato> My servers use 25GB month...
01:38 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, doing what...?
01:38 <PinkTomato> armagetronad.
01:38 <BabyBug> 25 gig...
01:38 <luke-jr> lol
01:38 <luke-jr> really?
01:38 <ct|kyle> so if i wanted to host CTWF on you server it would be a lot cheaper just to buy a 20 slot server
01:38 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: how much bw does CTWF do?
01:38 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, you sure about that? =P
01:38 <luke-jr> like I said, my current draft is based on 1 hour of statistic
01:38 <luke-jr> during the day
01:38 <ct|kyle> 5-8 GB probably
01:39 <luke-jr> hm
01:39 <PinkTomato> Hmm. It does sound a lot :D
01:39 <ct|kyle> our web server uses around 25 a month that is CTWF and website
01:39 <ct|kyle> 25 GB
01:39 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: with my draft, 25 GB is $161.36 :þ
01:40 <PinkTomato> Lol, I pay $10 for 300GB
01:40 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: web hosting is easily cheaper
01:40 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: :O
01:40 <luke-jr> I thought you used 25 GB
01:40 <PinkTomato> I do, but the package is for 300GB
01:40 <luke-jr> keep in mind that I am factoring in CPU time to the cost :þ
01:41 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: you really think you can use 300 GB with Arma on that machine?
01:41 <PinkTomato> Not with just armagetronad,
01:41 <luke-jr> I'm only pricing armagetronad atm.
01:41 <luke-jr> :þ
01:42 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, who's your VPS with?
01:42 <PinkTomato> armagetronad is quite thirsty. BabyBug: cheapvps
01:42 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: what are you using to monitor the bandwidth :P
01:42 <luke-jr> iptables
01:42 <luke-jr> aka netfilter
01:43 <ct|kyle> google told me that :P
01:43 <luke-jr> …
01:43 <luke-jr> sinewav's gone up to 28 MB
01:43 <luke-jr> I think we're about 1.5 hrs now
01:43 <sinewav> shit
01:43 <luke-jr> I should be calculating slots into this :/
01:44 <PinkTomato> well each slot is 8bits
01:44 <PinkTomato> max
01:44 <PinkTomato> I think.
01:44 <luke-jr> sinewav: remember, a draft is only a draft
01:44 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: you're nuts
01:44 <luke-jr> 8 bits?
01:44 <luke-jr> that's 1 byte
01:44 <PinkTomato> lol I missed the K xD
01:44 <luke-jr> 8 KB maybe
01:44 <luke-jr> per second
01:44 <ct|kyle> it goes up exponetually with each new slot
01:44 <PinkTomato> ah of course.
01:45 <luke-jr> unfortunately, all this complex per MB stuff will require coding
01:45 <luke-jr> and won't be worth using unless it drastically increases my customer base
01:45 <PinkTomato> the community needs to be bigger
01:46 <PinkTomato> but not as big with too many people trying with their own product
01:46 <ct|kyle> 8 slots 128 kbps,  16 slots 256 kbps
01:46 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: that's not exponential
01:47 <ct|kyle> ya
01:47 <ct|kyle> x^2
01:47 <ct|kyle> x being slots
01:47 <sinewav> lol
01:47 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: I agree, growing Arma is needed for me to make any $
01:47 <luke-jr> and since I am afaik the only one with potential to make $ off such growth, I should really work on it
01:48 <PinkTomato> working it out will be complicated.
01:48 <PinkTomato> so many variables
01:48 <luke-jr> I was thinking about advertising the game on bux.to once
01:48 <luke-jr> but chances are people there are going to be freeloaders?
01:48 <PinkTomato> I think all we need to do is let disney advertise tron 2.0
01:48 <luke-jr> which means they *might* increase the community, but probably won't byu hosting
01:49 <luke-jr> why?
01:49 <luke-jr> when?
01:49 <PinkTomato> because tron game results in 10th google result
01:49 <ct|kyle> hosting comes a year or so after playing
01:49 <PinkTomato> and that search term might increase with a new film out
01:49 <ct|kyle> they may start paying you to hack it more like tr2n
01:50 <luke-jr> tr2n?
01:51 <sinewav> 0_0
01:51 <BabyBug> Tur Toon =)
01:51 <luke-jr> guru3: get us higher on the 'tron game' google results
01:51  * ct|kyle just put armagetron at top of google for tron game
01:51 <luke-jr> we're not on the first page :/
01:51 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: that would only work when the movie/game comes out
01:52 <PinkTomato> why is it low?
01:52 <ct|kyle> guru3: add tr2n to keywords also
01:52 <BabyBug> Add game in the website title \o/
01:52 <PinkTomato> fltron flash game 2d screen... not match
01:52 <sinewav> too bad there isn't a version of arma for myspace/facebook
01:53 <sinewav> that would increase traffic I think
01:53 <luke-jr> wtf?
01:53 <PinkTomato> lol tetris for facebook
01:53 <PinkTomato> why did they release that?
01:53 <PinkTomato> I now have no time on my hand
01:53 <PinkTomato> s
01:53 <sinewav> haha
01:54 <luke-jr> well, there is an armagetron group on facebook
01:54 <PinkTomato> has like 4 people?
01:54 <sinewav> but not a webapp, those games are huge right now
01:54 <luke-jr> 203 members
01:54 <PinkTomato> ooo
01:55 <luke-jr> wtf @ Discussion Board
01:55 <luke-jr> Girls should not play armegetron‼!
01:55 <luke-jr> wtf?
01:55 <sinewav> 203 new servers? ;)
01:55 <BabyBug> ...
01:55 <BabyBug> who said that!
01:55 <luke-jr> someone on that forum
01:55 <luke-jr> "There are many things said on armegetron that are completely disgusting, there r also many mean and harsh things said, most boys no this is all a joke, but some girls think we are serious…"
01:55 <luke-jr> "im not trying to sound mean or anything but cravins is right."
01:56 <ct|kyle> voodoo added in opengl ES to tron now
01:56 <luke-jr> wtf?
01:56 <PinkTomato> does anything use opengl ES?
01:57 <ct|kyle> it can work on handhelds
01:57 <ct|kyle> like psp
01:57 <PinkTomato> I know there is a can :), but is there an is there :D
01:57 <ct|kyle> https://code.launchpad.net/~aavoodoo/+junk/0.2.8-armagetronad-opengles
01:58 <PinkTomato> has someone made a es engine for psp :S?
01:58 <ct|kyle> voodoo said you can get everything you need for it on there
01:59 <PinkTomato> So graphics work is done? just would need porting?
01:59 <ct|kyle> ya
01:59 <ct|kyle> i think so anyway :P
02:00 <PinkTomato> still sounds like a lot of hard work to do :)
02:01 <PinkTomato> babybug: one person was "bigman2"
02:02 <luke-jr> is PSP GPL-compatible?
02:02 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r945 Display list blacklist cut down to Mesa 7.0.x. All other ver...
02:02 <BabyBug> \o/
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02:22 <Lucifer> fonkay: heh, I tried, but ok ;)
02:25  * BabyBug cuddles Lucifer 
02:26 <PinkTomato> does the 50ms delay in US servers actually have any significant effect on a persons reaction time...
02:35 <madmax> a good reaction time usually works, for everything else, there's Rubber™
02:37 <BabyBug> madmax!!
02:37 <madmax> BabyBug!!
02:38 <BabyBug> fail =(
02:38 <madmax> <... hm, can't do it.
02:46 <madmax> BabyBug: 9 people on n9 :o
02:46 <BabyBug> .si deathmatch
02:46 <tronner> BabyBug: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (9/16): -=VcL.Dasher, Beers, Big White Man, C$ $oup, C$ DOWN, C$ J33p, Charlie, God, |SA|Pikachu
02:46 <BabyBug> meh, busy =P
02:47 -!- PinkTomato [n=sam@hn-33-24.brookes.ac.uk] has quit ["Leaving."]
02:55 <BabyBug> .si deathmatch
02:55 <tronner> BabyBug: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (6/16): -=VcL.Dasher, C$ $oup, C$ DOWN, C$ J33p, Charlie, madmax
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03:50 <luke-jr> wtf
03:50 <luke-jr> VCL clan is charging people $5/mo for "server police program"
03:50 <luke-jr> curiousw
03:50 <luke-jr> wonder what it is
03:50 <akira_arma> what?
03:50 <Lucifer> taking some hints from the mob, I"ll bet
03:50 <luke-jr> lol
03:50 <Lucifer> "Give us $5 and we won't trash your server"
03:50 <luke-jr> akira_arma: Become a -=VcL.Server Admin!  Just $5 a month and you can enroll in our server police program! Go to http://vcl-clan.com for more information today!
03:51 <luke-jr> o
03:51 <luke-jr> looks like it buys admin access
03:51 <akira_arma> wtf
03:51 <luke-jr> lol
03:51 <akira_arma> seriously?
03:51 <luke-jr> get this
03:51 <luke-jr> their site has no info, it seems
03:51 <luke-jr> LOL
03:52 <akira_arma> ....
03:52 <luke-jr> well, I can't find any info
03:55 <luke-jr> does MAX_CLIENTS 0 work?
03:55 <Lucifer> that's like asking "if a tree falls in the forest and nobody is around ot hear it, does it make a sound?"
03:55 <luke-jr> slightly different
03:55 <luke-jr> Lucifer: I want to meter the bandwidth usage of a server always empty
03:56 <luke-jr> taking an hour and multiplying gets ~100 MB/mo
03:56 <Lucifer> that much?  just for talking to the master server?
03:56 <luke-jr> and client polls
03:56 <luke-jr> eg, getting info for the browser(s)
03:57 <Lucifer> hmm, that doesn't account for variations in player usage, then
03:57 <Lucifer> maybe you measured in a peak time?
03:58 <luke-jr> possibly
03:58 <luke-jr> that's why I want to meter a whole month
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04:31 <BabyBug> "We think Dreadlord is not ready to join CT yet" ... How mean...poor deady =(
04:33 <akira_arma> why would anyone join a clan?
04:36 <BabyBug> no idea
04:36 <Lucifer> you're not asking me, are you?
04:36 <BabyBug> But it's still mean to turn people down =(
04:37 <Lucifer> maybe I should start playing again so I can collect clan-joining offers
04:39 <BabyBug> yay you should \o/
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04:41 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: you should try out :P
04:41 <BabyBug> ct|kyle?
04:42 <ct|kyle> for ct :P
04:42 <BabyBug> lol na =)
04:43  * ct|kyle won't cuddle BabyBug anymore :P
04:43 <BabyBug> :o
04:43  * BabyBug cries
04:45 <BabyBug> psht, i know you're cuddle me, you can't resist me =D
04:45 <BabyBug> you'll*
04:46 <ct|kyle> heh
04:46 <ct|kyle> i'll probably forget, but when i remember i'll uncuddle you  :)
04:47 <BabyBug> ><
04:48 <BabyBug> Seriously though, there's no point in me joining a clan. Once I can work again, and am able to drink again, i wont ever play arma again =P
04:49 <ct|kyle> :(
04:49 <ct|kyle> then how can i cuddle you :P
04:50 <BabyBug> cuddles are a substitute for drink =D
04:50 <ct|kyle> heh
04:50 <BabyBug> wont need em anymore =P
04:51 <luke-jr> Lucifer: want to play werewolf?
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07:20 <epsy> why are phpbb smileys not round?
07:20 <epsy> phpbb3*
07:21 <luke-jr> epsy: #Anime
07:21 <epsy> uhm no
07:22 <luke-jr> uhm yes
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07:32 <epsy> z-man-work, https://bugs.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+bug/245925/comments/9
07:32 <teabot> Launchpad bug 245925 in mesa "Both types of display list crash client during play." [Undecided,New]
07:33 <epsy> z-man-work, did it crash using 7.2 as well?
07:33 <epsy> hm, guess I will test
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07:49 <epsy> bbl
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10:09 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r947 Respect display list blacklist even in debug mode.... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r946 Extended display list blacklist to Mesa 7.1....
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11:40 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8653 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. configure.ac): Manuel Moos: Moved MAXCLIENTS from CXXFLAGS to config.h.
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12:15 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r948 Moved MAXCLIENTS from CXXFLAGS to config.h....
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13:28 <z-man-work> epsy: I hadn't tested 7.2 properly when I added that comment :)
13:31 <z-man-work> (That is, indirectly I had. Kubuntu 8.10 comes with it but with a GLX setup, and I had worked that quite a bit before I had installed the other versions from source without crashes.)
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13:49 <epsy> z-man-work, well, it didn't crash, but it has a broken vsync, so I guess I'll stay on the old drivers :\
13:50 <z-man-work> Good. No display lists for you, then!
13:50 <epsy> haha
13:51 <epsy> it's crap, I get 50fps with the old drivers and display lists off and 30 with the new drivers
13:52 <epsy> I'll try to turn it off, if it is possible
13:54 <z-man-work> Also, check if the vsync problem only affects Arma.
13:54 <epsy> yeah, good idea
13:54 <z-man-work> I suppose you tried the different swap modes already? (Fastest/glFlush/glFinish)
13:55 <epsy> yeah, tried that along with vsync mode
13:55 <epsy> motion blur semt to be as the only that changed anything
13:56 <z-man-work> Yeah, it writes directly to the front buffer and doesn't swap at all. In a way, it's the "safest" option.
13:57 <z-man-work> On linux, the ingame vsync option only works for NVidia cards, by the way.
13:58 <z-man-work> If you find out which environment variable your driver listens to for that, share it and I'll add it, too.
13:58 <epsy> so, after one warsow round, it hit the 75fps limit in an empty area of the map, but had poor performance overall
13:58 <epsy> yeah, that's what I am looking for
14:04 <z-man-work> There's several swap_interval extensions, but your driver supports none :(
14:04 <z-man-work> Not even GLX_MESA_swap_control.
14:04 <epsy> yeah, intel drivers suck, whatever they say
14:05 <epsy> brb
14:05 <z-man-work> <luke mode>But They Are Open Source!
14:05 <epsy> yeah, that's what he says
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14:07 <epsy> first, lets see if resizing windows doesnt crash X_x
14:07 <epsy> woot, that's better
14:08 <epsy> and the broken vsync is still on
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16:14 <noob13> !wc
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17:32 <akira_arma> http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7a03e5b6-c541-11dd-b516-000077b07658.html?nclick_check=1
17:32 <akira_arma> :)
17:32 <akira_arma> guess its time to openly admit the plans for the NWO
17:33 <akira_arma> :)
17:34 -!- freako [i=541fbdee@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9a2b5833f069fe70] has joined #armagetron
17:34 <akira_arma> and its citing 3 fabricated reasons:
17:35 <epsy> @title http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7a03e5b6-c541-11dd-b516-000077b07658.html?nclick_check=1
17:35 <teabot> epsy: FT.com / Columnists / Gideon Rachman - And now for a world government
17:35 <akira_arma> not bad huh :)
17:36 <akira_arma> goddamn elitists :/
17:36 <akira_arma> walking over billions of ocrpses
17:36 <freako> akira: how did the server crash get solved during the ladle?
17:37 <freako> want to know how they did it :p
17:37 <akira_arma> we started new game and observers counted points
17:38 <freako> oh ok :)
17:38 <SageLord> hi freako :)
17:38 <freako> hi sagelord!
17:38 <freako> since when ur an IRC addict? :o
17:40 <SageLord> :P
17:41 <SageLord> since maybe 3 days ago? :O
17:41 <freako> damned, I knew it >.<
17:41 <SageLord> haha
17:41 <epsy> I would get bashed for saying "since 3 days" at school
17:41 <SageLord> Oo
17:43 <SageLord> why is that?
17:43 <epsy> because it's wrong! :P
17:43 <freako> Sagelord: How many times is the brawl supposed to be played? And with how many time between 2 brawls*
17:44 <freako> I need to know when I can play the next ladle* :)
17:44 <epsy> freako, how many times is the ladle supposed to be played?
17:44 <SageLord> what do you mean how many times?
17:44 <freako> once a month...
17:44 <SageLord> its played on only one sunday
17:44 <epsy> how often you mean
17:44 <freako> yup :)
17:44 <SageLord> oh...  well i'm not sure, it depends on how people react to the tournament
17:45 <SageLord> if people don't like it, it will probably die, and if people like it, we can do it as often as people want to
17:45 <freako> I-m a bit lost... I can-t use my own pc this week   ...  and this one is shit
17:45 <freako> It-s so shit that I can't read all ur tournament things :/
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17:45 <SageLord> hmm?
17:45 <epsy> freako, /topic #armagetron.tourneys
17:46  * BabyBug cuddles epsy 
17:46 <epsy> hello BabyBug
17:46 <BabyBug> \o
17:46 <freako> I
17:47 <SageLord> what do you mean you can't read it all?
17:48 <freako> So shall I plan the next ladle 1 week after the Brawl*     >? Or the first week of february?
17:48 <epsy> well, it only works on windows seven, you know
17:48 <SageLord> haha definately not, tst is planned one week after brawl
17:48 <epsy> spoiled
17:48 <freako> sagelord: this pc is so shit... it costs like 4 minutes to load ur forums
17:48 <SageLord> oh, i mean
17:48 <SageLord> :S
17:48 <epsy> :P
17:48 <freako> my parens cut my internet because i was playing late (the ladle)
17:48 <K-Yo> SageLord, hi
17:49 <K-Yo> SageLord, I can't reply to your forums, registration needed?
17:49 <freako> k-ro yup
17:49 <SageLord> erm, i thought registration wasn't needed to respond to sign ups
17:49 <SageLord> durka must have changed it
17:50 <K-Yo> darn
17:50 <epsy> hm-
17:50 <K-Yo> and durka did not reply to me
17:50 <freako> Signup doesn't take long, no e-mail confirmation
17:50 <K-Yo> I had an account on ur old forums, do I need to make a new one?
17:50 <K-Yo> my last one won't work :(
17:50 <epsy> well, email confirmation can be done in 1 minute freako..lol
17:50 <SageLord> thats because we moved to different forums
17:51 <freako> not on this shit pc ;)
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17:51 <freako> so I was happy it was not there .
17:51 <SageLord> so you'll probably hvae to register again
17:51 <SageLord> sorry freako :/
17:52 <K-Yo> okay
17:52 <K-Yo> speedx, u can talk to me through IRC instead of PMs :P
17:53 <freako> :)
17:55 <freako> Odd. no irc logs from yesterday
17:55 <freako> on wrtlprnft's
17:55 <SageLord> ok, guests can now post only in the sign-up thread
17:55 <epsy> yeah, wrtl's running through home network trouble
17:56 <K-Yo> SageLord, cool :)
17:56 <epsy> his only working link is the link to freenode, heh
17:57  * freako would go crazy... if he only could use freenode
17:57 <SageLord> is that good kyo?
17:57 <epsy> uhm, you're using it..
17:57 <freako> only* :)
17:58 <K-Yo> SageLord, perfect :)
17:58 <SageLord> :D
17:58 <epsy> ok you lost me
17:58 <K-Yo> so, who's up for some fort?
17:59 <SageLord> lol, i like your preferred fortress positions
17:59 <K-Yo> SageLord, thx ;)
17:59 <epsy> I still didnt chose mines
17:59 <freako> I would like 2, but this pc only gets like 1 fps :/
17:59 <K-Yo> freako, argh
18:00 <freako> 1,6 Ghz ftw!
18:00 <K-Yo> woot
18:00 <epsy> 1,6GHz is fine..
18:00 <freako> 23 mb intel video :)
18:00 <freako> 32 i mean *\
18:00 <K-Yo> I got 1,7
18:00 <K-Yo> I got 1,7GHz
18:00 <epsy> intel video does not have it'sx won memory, so wtf are these 23Mb ?
18:01 <epsy> it's own*
18:01 <freako> shared memory I thought, or it's a integrated one
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18:01 <SageLord> all right guys, i gotta head out, got a final today to study for
18:01 <epsy> yeah..you can change it
18:01 <epsy> bb
18:01 <SageLord> bye :)
18:02 <freako> cya
18:02 <freako> anyways, shared memory sucks most of the time
18:02 <epsy> yeah, but not to the point of 1 fps
18:03 <freako> Then there's something wrong with this pc (idk all specifics)
18:03 <K-Yo> bigfarm?
18:03 <K-Yo> u*
18:03 <epsy> what OS are you runing on it?
18:03 <freako> hopefully I can play the ladle next time, without losing my internet :/
18:04 <freako> Xp
18:04 <freako> XP *
18:04 <epsy> hmm..
18:08 <BabyBug> bugfarm is rigged!
18:09 <freako> rigged* ?
18:09 <epsy> that's exactly what she wrote..
18:10 <BabyBug> =P
18:10 <freako> What is the meaning of Rigged?
18:11 <BabyBug> erm
18:11 <BabyBug> im not sure how one would explain it
18:12 <epsy> freako: http://dictionnaire.sensagent.com/rigged/en-nl/
18:13 <freako> Epsy , that dictionary tells me that it's a truck :P
18:13 <freako> bugfarm is a truck :O
18:14 <epsy> she said it rigged, not that it was a rig
18:14 <BabyBug> LOL
18:14 <epsy> look the last translation
18:14 <freako> uhm... that means
18:14 <epsy> [18:13] <epsy>: look the last translation
18:15 <BabyBug> its faked, somethings been done to it to ensure a specific thing happens...And that thing is i die!! =(
18:15 <freako> optuigen = making a chrismas tree beautifull with stuff
18:15 <epsy> it's opgetuigd ..
18:16 <epsy> you even have trouble at reading your own language O_O
18:16 <freako> lol... so the server looks like christmas tree  lol
18:16 <epsy> she basically means it's up and running
18:16 <freako> a christmas tree is  opgetuigd*
18:16 <epsy> and floating like a boat
18:18 <BabyBug> floating like a boat?!
18:18 <BabyBug> I do not mean that ><
18:19 <epsy> just keep the up and running part, and that it runs smoothly
18:19 <freako> optuigen:  embellish -  dress up -   beautify - Decorate - Garnish - Doll up -  Decorating
18:19 <freako> 18:15 BabyBug its faked     ... is that smooth :O
18:20 <freako> blah dinner :)
18:20 <BabyBug> men == idiots
18:22 <epsy> is that an assertion?
18:23 <BabyBug> Yup
18:24  * epsy sends a SIGABRT to BabyBug
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18:25 <epsy> haha
18:26 <iccleoldme> ......
18:26 <epsy> <3
18:27 <iccleoldme> Why does babybug take so fricken long to quit ><
18:27 <epsy> [18:22] <BabyBug>: Yup
18:27 <epsy> [18:23] * epsy sends a SIGABRT to BabyBug
18:27 <epsy> [18:25] * iccleoldme [n=BabyBug@87.113.8.95.plusnet.pte-ag1.dyn.plus.net] a rejoint #armagetron
18:28 <iccleoldme> bash.org worthy? =P
18:28 <epsy> I'll wait for the timeout ^^
18:28 <iccleoldme> hehe
18:31 <Monkey_arma>  iccleoldme:   /GHOST <nick> <password>   - Kills a ghosted name
18:31 <iccleoldme> what password? :s
18:32 <Monkey_arma> ah
18:32 <Monkey_arma> you need to register
18:32 <ct|kyle> z-man-work: Bug 253720, was a conflicting server setting,
18:32 <teabot> Launchpad bug 253720 in armagetronad "Camera locks to one position (Incam)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/253720
18:32 <epsy>  * /msg nickserv ghost <nick> <pass>
18:32 <epsy> BabyBug, your nickserv pass
18:32 <Monkey_arma> when you finally get Babybug back, type     /msg nickserv register <password>
18:33 <iccleoldme> epsy, what's my nickserv pass? :P
18:33  * ct|kyle sends BabyBug some drinks :)
18:33 <Monkey_arma> (where you choose a password instead of <password>
18:33 <z-man-work> ct|kyle: still sounds like a bug to me.
18:33 <iccleoldme> Oh ok Monkey_arma =)
18:33 <Monkey_arma> then to login each time:
18:33 <Monkey_arma>  /msg nickserv identify <password>
18:33 <Monkey_arma> ok?
18:33 <iccleoldme> okies :)
18:33 <Monkey_arma> k
18:33 <ct|kyle> z-man-work: sine.wav or hoop will know the settings they had to change, i'll ask them when they are in here
18:33  * iccleoldme kicks BabyBug away
18:33 <z-man-work> k
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18:44 <BabyBug> finally
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18:49 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: you should have another baby :P, then you can keep playing tron :P
18:50 <BabyBug> no thank you =P
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19:04 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: i'm not sure what the problem is with the server browser
19:04 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: though it is working again
19:07 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: Ah right, that's odd. Well glad it's back up :)
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19:19  * BabyBug squeezes Lizmatic 
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20:19 <K-Yo> .servers
20:19 <tronner> K-Yo: This data is 18 seconds old; The YELLOW Submarine (13/16), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (12/12), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (10/16), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (9/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (8/10), Wild West  =Capture The Flag=  ~Multi~Mode~ (7/10), Bugfarm Elimination Sumo (6/16), WILDCAT (6/8), |FA| BLACK TAR (5/16), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (5/12), Wild West  =CTF (2 more messages)
20:20 <K-Yo> .ctos
20:20 <tronner> K-Yo: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo: Players (0/12):
20:20 <K-Yo> ah
20:21 <Lizmatic> pwned
20:32 <K-Yo> indeed
20:33 <K-Yo> .bug
20:33 <tronner> K-Yo: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “bugfarm fortress clone” at the moment, sorry.
20:33 <K-Yo> .si bug
20:33 <tronner> K-Yo: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “bug” at the moment, sorry.
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20:36 <ct|kyle> z-man-work: bug updated
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20:39 <wrtlprnft> epsy: it fixed itself by now
20:39 <epsy> heh, well you had good luck I guess
20:40 <wrtlprnft> it wasn't my fault
20:41 <epsy> wrtlprnft, the chatlogs are still frozen by the way
20:41 <wrtlprnft> ah, right, i killed the script updating them by accident
20:41 <wrtlprnft> there they are
20:41 <epsy> well, fortress café isn't your fault either, but we're still waiting for news from you about it
20:41 <wrtlprnft> heh, my fault for not having the time :-S
20:42 <wrtlprnft> and it's quite frustrating
20:42 <epsy> also, I'm not sure if it's possible, but wouldn't it be wiser to have the list of logs shown in the opposite order?
20:43 <wrtlprnft> click on the column headings?
20:43 <wrtlprnft> it's an apache autogenerated index, after all
20:43 <epsy> it won't ever remember it will it?
20:43 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armalogs/?C=N;O=D
20:44 <wrtlprnft> tell me how to change the default order and i'll do it
20:46 <epsy> wrtlprnft: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/mod/mod_autoindex.html#indexorderdefault
20:49 <wrtlprnft> i knew this would result in work… done
20:49 <epsy> hey, you only took 3 minutes on it! :)
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20:51 <wrtlprnft> i even fixed the icons (again)
20:51 <wrtlprnft> whoever had the glorious idea to make them a symlink to a versioned directory (and not be updated automatically) should be shot
20:54 <wrtlprnft> anyways, i'll try updating again, and compile a new kernel. maybe that's gonna work
20:55 <epsy> updating cafai?
20:55 <wrtlprnft> yeah
20:55 <epsy> uhm yeah, good luck :)
20:55 <wrtlprnft> maybe the thing that's making trouble will rebuild
20:56 <wrtlprnft> failing that i might as well download the entire harddrive, cancel my contract and get a new server to start a new. it's probably gonna be better hardware-wise, and if the entire thing was just a hardware issue it won't bother me anymore
20:56 <epsy> haha
21:02 <wrtlprnft> wah, this rescue system has the worst possible .screenrc
21:02 <epsy> at least it stayed online the last four months :x
21:03 <wrtlprnft> well, i rebooted it a couple of times while trying to fix it
21:04 <epsy> 4 months vs few hours
21:04 <wrtlprnft> hehe
21:04 <wrtlprnft> i'll be so mad if i find out this is a faulty sata cable or something
21:04 <epsy> rescue system wins :<
21:05 <luke-jr> http://www.bbspot.com/News/2008/12/linux-on-a-potato.html
21:05 <epsy> did you think about running arma on the rescue OS?
21:06 <K-Yo> http://www.bbspot.com/News/2000/9/linux_laid.html
21:07 <wrtlprnft> too screwy
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21:12 <wrtlprnft> i actually did that for a couple of days
21:12 <wrtlprnft> but most other services don't run well in chroot, especially sshd
21:12 <epsy> indeed that wouldn't work
21:13 <wrtlprnft> i tied that a couple of times, but i ended up losing all connection to the recue system and having to reboot it
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21:25 <SageLord2> ahoy
21:25 <epsy> yoha
21:25 <SageLord2> d:
21:25 <epsy> so, uhm, defender/sweeper?
21:27 <epsy> K-Yo, you *should* give in your preferences btw (also *cough* at lack & max :) )
21:27 <SageLord2> haha
21:28 <K-Yo> epsy, what if I really don't have any?
21:28 <SageLord2> yea if you don't give your preferences, you won't be listed under any position if team captains want to sort by position
21:28 <SageLord2> <<<creating a spreadsheet
21:28 <K-Yo> where's the bad part in that?
21:28 <SageLord2> there's nothing wrong with it
21:28 <epsy> then pick a piece of paper, write down fortress positions on it, close your eyes and let whatever drop on it
21:28 <K-Yo> cool then
21:28 <SageLord2> haha
21:28 <K-Yo> haha
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21:29 <SageLord2> i'll make a new category... "undecided"
21:29 <epsy> SageLord2, that will be a nightmare
21:29 <SageLord2> haha
21:29 <SageLord2> yea...
21:29 <K-Yo> wait
21:29 <K-Yo> you need one?
21:29 <K-Yo> if you do I can give you some
21:29 <Lizmatic> sage, what happened to TR website?
21:29 <SageLord2> it would be nice, just pick 2
21:29 <K-Yo> put me in def/2/3
21:29 <epsy> in TST, there was a team that didn't want preferences
21:30 <SageLord2> liz:  one of ~X~'s friends was paying it for us
21:30 <epsy> I passed like half an hour on thinking about what I would do with that
21:30 <SageLord2> and he didn't want to pay for it anymore
21:30 <epsy> Lizmatic, http://twisted-rats.co.cc/
21:30 <Lizmatic> ah..
21:30 <SageLord2> so goody and i were going to help pay for it
21:30 <SageLord2> but then durka said something that ticked him off
21:30 <SageLord2> so he closed it down lol
21:30 <SageLord2> so... new forums! :)
21:31 <Lizmatic> JOOOOMIA
21:31 <Lizmatic> JOOMIA! lol
21:31 <epsy> joomla :|
21:31 <epsy> suckss :|
21:32 <SageLord2> what's that? :S
21:32 <Lizmatic> ..your website
21:32 <Lizmatic> joomla foo
21:32 <SageLord2> oh
21:32 <SageLord2> hahaha
21:32 <SageLord2> whoops :p
21:32 <SageLord2> what's wrong with it?
21:32 <SageLord2> :s
21:33 <epsy> it's..empty?
21:33 <Lizmatic> um *cough*
21:33 <Lizmatic> have you never seen your frontpage sage?:P
21:33 <SageLord2> yea... a long time ago
21:33 <SageLord2> i just go straight to the forums
21:33 <SageLord2> twisted-rats.co.cc/forum
21:34 <Lizmatic> good plan
21:34 <SageLord2> xP
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21:36 <epsy> You should hide that joomla stuff before it's ready, I'd say
21:36 <SageLord2> haha, well
21:36 <SageLord2> i'll get to it, or ask durka to get to it
21:36 <SageLord2> idk if he wants me messing with the forums/website more than i have already :P
21:37  * epsy decided he would stop trying to mess with phpbb
21:37 <Lizmatic> punbb ftw
21:37 <epsy> nah, not rly
21:37 <Lizmatic> how dare you
21:37 <armabot> fts_feedback: Concord - rain || rain - re-visit scoring system || Concord - that sucked
21:38 <epsy> holy shit café's up
21:38 <wrtlprnft> lol
21:38 <wrtlprnft> ssh rain@arma
21:38 <wrtlprnft> new kernel from scratch was the trick
21:38 <epsy> and do you know if it will stay up for more than an hour?
21:38 <wrtlprnft> (and not forgetting to enable the drivers for reiserfs, my network card and the sata controller, all of which are disabled by default)
21:38 <wrtlprnft> well, it's the original system
21:39 <epsy> Lizmatic, start ¦×¦ sumo or not?
21:39 <wrtlprnft> the next voluntary reboot will be a while, that much is sure
21:40 <wrtlprnft> need to rebuild it, though
21:40 <wrtlprnft> and probably update
21:40 <epsy> the kernel?
21:40 <wrtlprnft> no, arma
21:41 <Lizmatic> sumo what huh where
21:41 <SageLord2> o:
21:41 <epsy> ah, I've been using my own builds for a little while now
21:41 <wrtlprnft> cc1plus: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-strict-overflow"
21:41 <epsy> but well, I'll lay that on tomorrow
21:42 <wrtlprnft> err, maybe there should be some checking whether gcc 4.3 is actually used?
21:43 <epsy> $ ssh-xfort
21:43 <epsy> Permission denied (publickey).
21:44 <wrtlprnft> give me a public key then
21:44 <wrtlprnft> (although it shouldn't have changed)
22:11 <Lizmatic> haha @ everyone going to x sumo
22:11 <Lizmatic> *laughs at kyo*
22:11 <Lizmatic> NERRR
22:11 <SageLord2> o:
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22:22 <armabot> lpbugs: [306969] compiling fails with gcc-4.1.2 and CODELEVEL>=1 due to -W-no-strict-overflow
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22:32 <fonkay> Lucifer: Not hard enough. ;)
22:39 <hoax> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXfHLUlZf4
22:43  * PinkTomato is happy to see |X|sumo is back :0
22:43 <PinkTomato> :)
22:44 <epsy> I am happy I can win matches with a simple console command again
22:48 <PinkTomato> lol epsy :)
22:55 <SageLord2> all right time for my circuit analysis final... wish me luck :S
22:58 <SageLord2> i want to see 5 more people signed up for Fortress Brawl before I get back, ok? :D
23:01 <K-Yo> when do you come back?
23:01 <SageLord2> 4 hours
23:01 <SageLord2> ish
23:02 <SageLord2> long final... i hope i don't fall asleep in the middle of it ;)
23:03 <epsy> SageLord2, uhm, good luck
23:03 <SageLord2> :p
23:04 <hoax> gtfo sage
23:04 <hoax> as if you need it
23:05 <SageLord2> haha
23:05 <PinkTomato> +1 from me :)
23:06 <PinkTomato> you only need 3 more now
23:06 <SageLord2> haha great :)
23:06 <SageLord2> but i haven't left yet... so still 4
23:06 <SageLord2> :D
23:06 <epsy> haha :D
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23:13 <SageLord2> k now i'm leaving, bye guys :)
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23:13 <epsy> ok so four remaining
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23:44 <madmax> fortress anyone? (in the real fortress café)
23:45 <akira_arma> i'd be in
23:45 <sinewav> 0_0 the REAL one?
23:45 <madmax> #sd -v café
23:46 <armabot> madmax: Fortress Café (armagetron.at:4539) running 0.2.8_alpha20080805 unix dedicated, url: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/, Description: “This is a fortress server. Expect to be kicked if you don't know how to play. To learn how to play try http://wiki.armagetronad.net/“, Players (1/32): madmax
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23:50 <Lizmatic> flex
23:51 <Flex> yes?
23:51 <Lizmatic> did you know that the word faggot starts with F too?
23:51 <Lizmatic> (no I will not answer you!)
23:52 <Flex> oh yeah..
23:52 <K-Yo> gz wrtlprnft having ur server back up ;)
23:53 <Monkey_arma> guys, come and support pink tomatoes in the quest for sumo server domination
23:53 <Lizmatic> what?
23:53 <Monkey_arma> (North American)
23:54 <K-Yo> Monkey_arma, ??
23:54 <madmax> come and support fortress by joining café \o/
23:56 <dlh> #sd -v café
23:56 <armabot> dlh: Fortress Café (armagetron.at:4539) running 0.2.8_alpha20080805 unix dedicated, url: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/, Description: “This is a fortress server. Expect to be kicked if you don't know how to play. To learn how to play try http://wiki.armagetronad.net/“, Players (4/32): akira (akira@forums), free kill, ikono, madmax

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