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Log from 2008-12-10: --- Day changed Wed Dec 10 2008 00:00 <sinewav> @ windows 00:00 <luke-jr> Konversation 4 should support Windows, but that seems like a ways off 00:00 <luke-jr> s/4/whatever's next 00:00 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: you can install it on windows i think (let me go see :P) 00:00 <sinewav> I'll be switching OS as soon as they stop making software for XP 00:01 <luke-jr> sinewav: XP has no useful software :D 00:01 <ct|kyle> switch before then, get used to linux 00:01 <sinewav> haha, yeah I sould, but it's hard to leave something comfortable. I don't hate it enough yet 00:02 <ct|kyle> but i use pidgin 00:02 <luke-jr> I switched completely when XP came out 00:02 <ct|kyle> get vista :P 00:02 <luke-jr> I think I used XP like a week 00:02 <luke-jr> then wiped it 00:02 <ct|kyle> i used vista for a month, they never went back 00:02 <luke-jr> last Windoze I really used was Win2k 00:03 <sinewav> The only reason I have XP was because I was working on some video project and needed the NTFS to complete the project 00:03 <ct|kyle> they really fucked it up between RC1 and RC2 00:03 <luke-jr> sinewav: Linux has full NTFS support now 00:03 <sinewav> Awesome 00:04 * sinewav is downloading pidgin... 00:04 <ct|kyle> heh my XP copy is fucked up 00:04 <luke-jr> pidgin sucks 00:04 <sinewav> Hey Kyle, I'm thinking about killing the Advanced Racing server, what are your thoughts? 00:05 <ct|kyle> i don't care, up to you, i can always clone it :P 00:05 <sinewav> like: I'll find that out soon enough... 00:05 <luke-jr> hey 00:05 <sinewav> hey 00:05 <luke-jr> sinewav: what would you think if I offered an alternate hosting plan 00:05 <luke-jr> like $5/mo with unlimited slots and servers 00:06 <sinewav> alternate me baby! 00:06 <luke-jr> but charged for bandwidth 00:06 <luke-jr> I suspect people wouldn't like it cuz the cost changes 00:06 <luke-jr> but i could leave the usual flat fee ones too 00:06 <sinewav> I'd have to check my stats. can you send me my montly usage? 00:06 <luke-jr> hah 00:06 <luke-jr> I have no measurement per server now 00:06 <luke-jr> :þ 00:07 <luke-jr> I can hackishly have iptables measure your user's upload I htink 00:07 <sinewav> well, it's hard to make an informed decision that way! I'm interested though 00:07 <luke-jr> :þ 00:07 -!- K-Yo [n=K-Yo@unaffiliated/k-yo] has quit ["Quitte"] 00:07 <luke-jr> I suppose I could make it pre-pay too 00:07 <luke-jr> and if you run out of funds, your server gets disabled 00:07 <luke-jr> until you add more 00:08 <luke-jr> that would work good for donation-funded servers I think :o 00:08 <sinewav> proly 00:08 <luke-jr> u r djv? 00:08 <sinewav> yes 00:08 <sinewav> djvision 00:09 <luke-jr> ok, added an iptables counter 00:09 <luke-jr> 3.4 KB so far 00:09 <luke-jr> :þ 00:10 <luke-jr> I wonder if I can get rid of the flat fee altogether 00:11 <luke-jr> or rather, have a 100% bandwidth-based plan 00:11 <luke-jr> (disk space isn't usually an issue) 00:11 -!- CT|P4 [n=P4@unaffiliated/p4] has joined #armagetron 00:12 <luke-jr> heh, that particular machine is using 400 KB/sec upload constantly 00:12 <sinewav> Wow 00:13 <luke-jr> sinewav: you just hit 40 KB 00:13 <sinewav> I like the stable price factor, helps me budget better. 00:13 <sinewav> `haha 00:13 <sinewav> `ok then 00:13 <luke-jr> ☺ 00:13 -!- CT|P4 [n=P4@unaffiliated/p4] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:13 -!- CT|P4 [n=P4@unaffiliated/p4] has joined #armagetron 00:15 -!- P4 [n=P4@unaffiliated/p4] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:15 <sinewav> luke: I'm thinking I might kill the racing server and replace it with a fortress-like server I had there before. I'll send you an email with the details. 00:16 <sinewav> Or maybe just add another? 00:16 <sinewav> mayber fewer slots on the race server? 00:16 <sinewav> `I dunno 00:16 <fonkay> Lucifer: I still consider myself dropped out. 00:23 -!- apparition [n=chatzill@c-68-40-121-115.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:25 -!- sinewav [n=sinewav@adsl-75-22-225-118.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has quit ["Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com"] 00:33 <Ratchet--> no no 00:33 <Ratchet--> i need help with tron on ubuntu 00:33 <Ratchet--> not ubuntu problems 00:39 -!- sinewav [n=Computer@adsl-75-22-225-118.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #armagetron 00:39 -!- Ratchet-- [n=joshua@99-195-9-134.dyn.centurytel.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:42 -!- CT|P4 is now known as P4 00:42 -!- sinewav [n=Computer@adsl-75-22-225-118.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has left #armagetron [] 00:48 -!- sinewav [n=Computer@adsl-75-22-225-118.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #armagetron 00:49 -!- sinewav [n=Computer@adsl-75-22-225-118.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has left #armagetron [] 00:49 -!- sinewav [n=Computer@adsl-75-22-225-118.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #armagetron 00:52 -!- sinewav [n=Computer@adsl-75-22-225-118.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has left #armagetron [] 00:52 -!- sinewav [n=Computer@adsl-75-22-225-118.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #armagetron 01:02 -!- sinewav1 [n=Computer@adsl-75-22-225-118.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #armagetron 01:03 -!- dlh [n=dlh@c-75-69-147-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 01:05 -!- sinewav2 [n=Computer@adsl-75-22-225-118.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #armagetron 01:05 <luke-jr> sinewav connection issues? 01:05 <luke-jr> hm, interesting 01:05 <sinewav2> Heh, Pidgin. Yeah, kinda lame 01:05 <sinewav2> I'll have to try something else 01:05 <luke-jr> on this particular machine, there are 2 users that each have used more bandwidth than all the other users combined :o 01:06 <luke-jr> sinewav is one :þ 01:06 <P4> .xers 01:06 <tronner> This data is 48 seconds old: |x| FoFo@Fortress Café - Ct's Clone (4/32) This data is 48 seconds old: ¦×¦ Black_ha@Fortress Café - Ct's Clone (4/32) 01:06 <luke-jr> but you have 3 servers, so that's understandable 01:06 * P4 ment good night 01:06 -!- sinewav3 [n=Computer@adsl-75-22-225-118.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #armagetron 01:07 <luke-jr> VCL clan is using even more than sinewav, and they only have 1 server :O 01:07 <sinewav3> wow 01:08 <ct|kyle> o0 4 sinewav's here 01:08 <sinewav3> wtf is with the gay pidgin program...grrr 01:08 <ct|kyle> it is on MS nothing works there 01:08 <luke-jr> lol 01:08 <ct|kyle> I put KDE on it and now MS sent me a virus 01:08 -!- sinewav1 [n=Computer@adsl-75-22-225-118.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 01:09 <luke-jr> hm 01:10 * luke-jr ponders a package with only bandwidth fees, and the first 5 MB free or something. 01:10 <luke-jr> Bet I'd finally need to automate new accounts :/ 01:10 -!- sinewav1 [n=Computer@adsl-75-22-225-118.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #armagetron 01:10 <luke-jr> and then I'd have to worry about throwaway accounts :/ 01:11 <luke-jr> maybe just a setup fee to avoid scammers 01:11 <ct|kyle> 5MB is quite a bit, i think that is all CTWF takes in a month 01:11 <luke-jr> ok, maybe not 5 MB then XD 01:11 -!- sinewav4 [n=Computer@adsl-75-22-225-118.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #armagetron 01:12 <ct|kyle> sinewav* having fun :P 01:12 <luke-jr> in 1 hour, the average seems to be about 150 KB 01:12 <luke-jr> sinewav is 3.5 MB 01:12 <luke-jr> VCL clan is 5.2 MB 01:12 * luke-jr wonders how the heck VCL clan is eating so much bw 01:12 -!- sinewav5 [n=Computer@adsl-75-22-225-118.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #armagetron 01:12 <luke-jr> … 01:12 <sinewav5> omg i'm on wireless and everytime I drop signal it logs on again 01:12 <ct|kyle> lol 01:12 <sinewav5> `fuck this pidgin 01:13 <sinewav5> `grr 01:13 <luke-jr> sinewav5: err yeah, that's Windowsw 01:13 <sinewav5> bye 01:13 -!- sinewav5 [n=Computer@adsl-75-22-225-118.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Client Quit] 01:13 <ct|kyle> heh, i only drop my lan once a day :P 01:14 <luke-jr> ok 01:14 <luke-jr> MAJOR wtf here 01:14 <luke-jr> vclclan's server is EMPTY 01:14 -!- sinewav2 [n=Computer@adsl-75-22-225-118.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 01:14 <luke-jr> and has been all day? 01:16 <ct|kyle> heh 01:16 <ct|kyle> they are using it for p2p downloading 01:16 <luke-jr> impossible 01:16 <luke-jr> :/ 01:16 <ct|kyle> file sharing site 01:16 <luke-jr> they don't have a site hosted 01:16 <luke-jr> and the webserver isn't being counted 01:16 -!- sinewav1 [n=Computer@adsl-75-22-225-118.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 01:16 <ct|kyle> oh 01:21 -!- sinewav [n=Computer@adsl-75-22-225-118.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:21 <ct|kyle> .si >> Advanced racing 01:21 <tronner> ct|kyle: Adventures of TRON >> Advanced Racing <<: Players (5/9): spark!, VMK Sammypup, WatchMeGo, ^ICP^ Blaze, ^ICP^ Br3l3n 01:21 <ct|kyle> and it never gets used :P 01:22 <luke-jr> lol 01:22 <luke-jr> oh 01:22 <luke-jr> the 150 KB/hr 01:22 <luke-jr> is an empty server 01:22 <luke-jr> no clue why vclclan is using so much tho 01:22 <luke-jr> :/ 01:23 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: uh 01:23 <luke-jr> no way CTWF only uses 5 MB /mo 01:23 <luke-jr> based on the current statistics 01:23 <luke-jr> an empty server uses 105 MB/mo just answering server list polls 01:24 -!- PinkTomato [n=sam@hn-33-24.brookes.ac.uk] has joined #armagetron 01:24 <luke-jr> in the case of sinewav's servers, he used up 5 MB in about 30 minutes 01:24 <luke-jr> XD 01:25 <ct|kyle> 5GB maybe :P 01:26 <luke-jr> yeah 01:26 <luke-jr> probably 01:27 <luke-jr> sinewav's avg looks like ~7.2 GB/mo atm 01:27 -!- sinewav [n=sinewav@adsl-75-22-225-118.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #armagetron 01:27 <luke-jr> but it's not night yet 01:27 <luke-jr> so it will probably be less 01:27 <luke-jr> sinewav: I'm considering a penny per MB 01:27 <luke-jr> :þ 01:27 <sinewav> haha 01:28 <luke-jr> sinewav: the past hour, you used 10 MB 01:28 -!- sinewav3 [n=Computer@adsl-75-22-225-118.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:28 * luke-jr ponders a sliding scale 01:28 <sinewav> Ok, let's figure this out. My billing cycle starts tomorrow. 01:28 <luke-jr> lol 01:30 -!- zmanuel [n=manuel@p50872F31.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 01:30 -!- sinewav4 [n=Computer@adsl-75-22-225-118.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:30 <sinewav> thank god stupid sinewav4 left. what a prick 01:30 <ct|kyle> heh 01:31 <luke-jr> sinewav: I think I'll probably need at least a month's measurement before I commit 01:31 <sinewav> sure, we'll work it out later. 01:33 <luke-jr> my current draft plan would put you at $93/mo if your server continues at the same rate as the past hour 01:33 <luke-jr> I suspect night will reduce that quite a bit 01:33 <luke-jr> current idea: 01:33 <sinewav> yikes! 01:33 <luke-jr> $10 setup charge 01:33 <luke-jr> 100 MB/mo included 01:33 <luke-jr> Up to 1 GB, 2 cents/MB (total 1 GB costs $18) 01:34 <luke-jr> Up to 5 GB, 1 cent/MB (total 5 GB costs $58.96) 01:34 <luke-jr> Beyond that, 2 MB/penny (total 8 GB costs $92.32) 01:35 <luke-jr> hmm 01:35 <luke-jr> I think my maths are off 01:35 <sinewav> I can't believe I use that much bandwidth, wow. my games are far from popular. 8-. 01:35 <luke-jr> :o 01:36 <luke-jr> 100 MB/mo included because that's what an empty server seems to use ☺ 01:37 <PinkTomato> My servers use 25GB month... 01:38 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, doing what...? 01:38 <PinkTomato> armagetronad. 01:38 <BabyBug> 25 gig... 01:38 <luke-jr> lol 01:38 <luke-jr> really? 01:38 <ct|kyle> so if i wanted to host CTWF on you server it would be a lot cheaper just to buy a 20 slot server 01:38 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: how much bw does CTWF do? 01:38 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, you sure about that? =P 01:38 <luke-jr> like I said, my current draft is based on 1 hour of statistic 01:38 <luke-jr> during the day 01:38 <ct|kyle> 5-8 GB probably 01:39 <luke-jr> hm 01:39 <PinkTomato> Hmm. It does sound a lot :D 01:39 <ct|kyle> our web server uses around 25 a month that is CTWF and website 01:39 <ct|kyle> 25 GB 01:39 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: with my draft, 25 GB is $161.36 :þ 01:40 <PinkTomato> Lol, I pay $10 for 300GB 01:40 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: web hosting is easily cheaper 01:40 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: :O 01:40 <luke-jr> I thought you used 25 GB 01:40 <PinkTomato> I do, but the package is for 300GB 01:40 <luke-jr> keep in mind that I am factoring in CPU time to the cost :þ 01:41 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: you really think you can use 300 GB with Arma on that machine? 01:41 <PinkTomato> Not with just armagetronad, 01:41 <luke-jr> I'm only pricing armagetronad atm. 01:41 <luke-jr> :þ 01:42 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, who's your VPS with? 01:42 <PinkTomato> armagetronad is quite thirsty. BabyBug: cheapvps 01:42 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: what are you using to monitor the bandwidth :P 01:42 <luke-jr> iptables 01:42 <luke-jr> aka netfilter 01:43 <ct|kyle> google told me that :P 01:43 <luke-jr> … 01:43 <luke-jr> sinewav's gone up to 28 MB 01:43 <luke-jr> I think we're about 1.5 hrs now 01:43 <sinewav> shit 01:43 <luke-jr> I should be calculating slots into this :/ 01:44 <PinkTomato> well each slot is 8bits 01:44 <PinkTomato> max 01:44 <PinkTomato> I think. 01:44 <luke-jr> sinewav: remember, a draft is only a draft 01:44 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: you're nuts 01:44 <luke-jr> 8 bits? 01:44 <luke-jr> that's 1 byte 01:44 <PinkTomato> lol I missed the K xD 01:44 <luke-jr> 8 KB maybe 01:44 <luke-jr> per second 01:44 <ct|kyle> it goes up exponetually with each new slot 01:44 <PinkTomato> ah of course. 01:45 <luke-jr> unfortunately, all this complex per MB stuff will require coding 01:45 <luke-jr> and won't be worth using unless it drastically increases my customer base 01:45 <PinkTomato> the community needs to be bigger 01:46 <PinkTomato> but not as big with too many people trying with their own product 01:46 <ct|kyle> 8 slots 128 kbps, 16 slots 256 kbps 01:46 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: that's not exponential 01:47 <ct|kyle> ya 01:47 <ct|kyle> x^2 01:47 <ct|kyle> x being slots 01:47 <sinewav> lol 01:47 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: I agree, growing Arma is needed for me to make any $ 01:47 <luke-jr> and since I am afaik the only one with potential to make $ off such growth, I should really work on it 01:48 <PinkTomato> working it out will be complicated. 01:48 <PinkTomato> so many variables 01:48 <luke-jr> I was thinking about advertising the game on bux.to once 01:48 <luke-jr> but chances are people there are going to be freeloaders? 01:48 <PinkTomato> I think all we need to do is let disney advertise tron 2.0 01:48 <luke-jr> which means they *might* increase the community, but probably won't byu hosting 01:49 <luke-jr> why? 01:49 <luke-jr> when? 01:49 <PinkTomato> because tron game results in 10th google result 01:49 <ct|kyle> hosting comes a year or so after playing 01:49 <PinkTomato> and that search term might increase with a new film out 01:49 <ct|kyle> they may start paying you to hack it more like tr2n 01:50 <luke-jr> tr2n? 01:51 <sinewav> 0_0 01:51 <BabyBug> Tur Toon =) 01:51 <luke-jr> guru3: get us higher on the 'tron game' google results 01:51 * ct|kyle just put armagetron at top of google for tron game 01:51 <luke-jr> we're not on the first page :/ 01:51 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: that would only work when the movie/game comes out 01:52 <PinkTomato> why is it low? 01:52 <ct|kyle> guru3: add tr2n to keywords also 01:52 <BabyBug> Add game in the website title \o/ 01:52 <PinkTomato> fltron flash game 2d screen... not match 01:52 <sinewav> too bad there isn't a version of arma for myspace/facebook 01:53 <sinewav> that would increase traffic I think 01:53 <luke-jr> wtf? 01:53 <PinkTomato> lol tetris for facebook 01:53 <PinkTomato> why did they release that? 01:53 <PinkTomato> I now have no time on my hand 01:53 <PinkTomato> s 01:53 <sinewav> haha 01:54 <luke-jr> well, there is an armagetron group on facebook 01:54 <PinkTomato> has like 4 people? 01:54 <sinewav> but not a webapp, those games are huge right now 01:54 <luke-jr> 203 members 01:54 <PinkTomato> ooo 01:55 <luke-jr> wtf @ Discussion Board 01:55 <luke-jr> Girls should not play armegetron‼! 01:55 <luke-jr> wtf? 01:55 <sinewav> 203 new servers? ;) 01:55 <BabyBug> ... 01:55 <BabyBug> who said that! 01:55 <luke-jr> someone on that forum 01:55 <luke-jr> "There are many things said on armegetron that are completely disgusting, there r also many mean and harsh things said, most boys no this is all a joke, but some girls think we are serious…" 01:55 <luke-jr> "im not trying to sound mean or anything but cravins is right." 01:56 <ct|kyle> voodoo added in opengl ES to tron now 01:56 <luke-jr> wtf? 01:56 <PinkTomato> does anything use opengl ES? 01:57 <ct|kyle> it can work on handhelds 01:57 <ct|kyle> like psp 01:57 <PinkTomato> I know there is a can :), but is there an is there :D 01:57 <ct|kyle> https://code.launchpad.net/~aavoodoo/+junk/0.2.8-armagetronad-opengles 01:58 <PinkTomato> has someone made a es engine for psp :S? 01:58 <ct|kyle> voodoo said you can get everything you need for it on there 01:59 <PinkTomato> So graphics work is done? just would need porting? 01:59 <ct|kyle> ya 01:59 <ct|kyle> i think so anyway :P 02:00 <PinkTomato> still sounds like a lot of hard work to do :) 02:01 <PinkTomato> babybug: one person was "bigman2" 02:02 <luke-jr> is PSP GPL-compatible? 02:02 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r945 Display list blacklist cut down to Mesa 7.0.x. All other ver... 02:02 <BabyBug> \o/ 02:07 -!- sinewav [n=sinewav@adsl-75-22-225-118.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has left #armagetron ["Leaving"] 02:10 -!- madmax [n=madmax@unaffiliated/madmax] has joined #armagetron 02:22 <Lucifer> fonkay: heh, I tried, but ok ;) 02:25 * BabyBug cuddles Lucifer 02:26 <PinkTomato> does the 50ms delay in US servers actually have any significant effect on a persons reaction time... 02:35 <madmax> a good reaction time usually works, for everything else, there's Rubber™ 02:37 <BabyBug> madmax!! 02:37 <madmax> BabyBug!! 02:38 <BabyBug> fail =( 02:38 <madmax> <... hm, can't do it. 02:46 <madmax> BabyBug: 9 people on n9 :o 02:46 <BabyBug> .si deathmatch 02:46 <tronner> BabyBug: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (9/16): -=VcL.Dasher, Beers, Big White Man, C$ $oup, C$ DOWN, C$ J33p, Charlie, God, |SA|Pikachu 02:46 <BabyBug> meh, busy =P 02:47 -!- PinkTomato [n=sam@hn-33-24.brookes.ac.uk] has quit ["Leaving."] 02:55 <BabyBug> .si deathmatch 02:55 <tronner> BabyBug: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (6/16): -=VcL.Dasher, C$ $oup, C$ DOWN, C$ J33p, Charlie, madmax 03:35 -!- Monkey_arma [n=Monkey@unaffiliated/monkeyarma] has quit [] 03:50 <luke-jr> wtf 03:50 <luke-jr> VCL clan is charging people $5/mo for "server police program" 03:50 <luke-jr> curiousw 03:50 <luke-jr> wonder what it is 03:50 <akira_arma> what? 03:50 <Lucifer> taking some hints from the mob, I"ll bet 03:50 <luke-jr> lol 03:50 <Lucifer> "Give us $5 and we won't trash your server" 03:50 <luke-jr> akira_arma: Become a -=VcL.Server Admin! Just $5 a month and you can enroll in our server police program! Go to http://vcl-clan.com for more information today! 03:51 <luke-jr> o 03:51 <luke-jr> looks like it buys admin access 03:51 <akira_arma> wtf 03:51 <luke-jr> lol 03:51 <akira_arma> seriously? 03:51 <luke-jr> get this 03:51 <luke-jr> their site has no info, it seems 03:51 <luke-jr> LOL 03:52 <akira_arma> .... 03:52 <luke-jr> well, I can't find any info 03:55 <luke-jr> does MAX_CLIENTS 0 work? 03:55 <Lucifer> that's like asking "if a tree falls in the forest and nobody is around ot hear it, does it make a sound?" 03:55 <luke-jr> slightly different 03:55 <luke-jr> Lucifer: I want to meter the bandwidth usage of a server always empty 03:56 <luke-jr> taking an hour and multiplying gets ~100 MB/mo 03:56 <Lucifer> that much? just for talking to the master server? 03:56 <luke-jr> and client polls 03:56 <luke-jr> eg, getting info for the browser(s) 03:57 <Lucifer> hmm, that doesn't account for variations in player usage, then 03:57 <Lucifer> maybe you measured in a peak time? 03:58 <luke-jr> possibly 03:58 <luke-jr> that's why I want to meter a whole month 04:21 -!- SageLord [i=8107ca79@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-342ac326ce521089] has quit ["http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client"] 04:30 -!- madmax [n=madmax@unaffiliated/madmax] has quit ["ø"] 04:31 <BabyBug> "We think Dreadlord is not ready to join CT yet" ... How mean...poor deady =( 04:33 <akira_arma> why would anyone join a clan? 04:36 <BabyBug> no idea 04:36 <Lucifer> you're not asking me, are you? 04:36 <BabyBug> But it's still mean to turn people down =( 04:37 <Lucifer> maybe I should start playing again so I can collect clan-joining offers 04:39 <BabyBug> yay you should \o/ 04:39 -!- SageLord [n=aaron_wo@66-60-236-248-dynamic.cmts1.phonoscope.net] has joined #armagetron 04:41 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: you should try out :P 04:41 <BabyBug> ct|kyle? 04:42 <ct|kyle> for ct :P 04:42 <BabyBug> lol na =) 04:43 * ct|kyle won't cuddle BabyBug anymore :P 04:43 <BabyBug> :o 04:43 * BabyBug cries 04:45 <BabyBug> psht, i know you're cuddle me, you can't resist me =D 04:45 <BabyBug> you'll* 04:46 <ct|kyle> heh 04:46 <ct|kyle> i'll probably forget, but when i remember i'll uncuddle you :) 04:47 <BabyBug> >< 04:48 <BabyBug> Seriously though, there's no point in me joining a clan. Once I can work again, and am able to drink again, i wont ever play arma again =P 04:49 <ct|kyle> :( 04:49 <ct|kyle> then how can i cuddle you :P 04:50 <BabyBug> cuddles are a substitute for drink =D 04:50 <ct|kyle> heh 04:50 <BabyBug> wont need em anymore =P 04:51 <luke-jr> Lucifer: want to play werewolf? 05:49 -!- ct|kyle [n=kyle@pool-71-97-143-186.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:50 -!- ct|kyle [n=kyle@pool-71-97-143-186.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron 06:05 -!- sinewav [n=sinewav@adsl-75-22-225-118.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #armagetron 06:07 -!- sinewav [n=sinewav@adsl-75-22-225-118.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Client Quit] 06:28 -!- ct|kyle [n=kyle@pool-71-97-143-186.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 07:08 -!- G5 [n=G5@cl-506.dus-01.de.sixxs.net] has quit ["Over and out."] 07:10 -!- epsy [n=epsy@2a01:e35:2e34:1480:216:76ff:fe44:494c] has joined #aRmAgEtROn 07:20 <epsy> why are phpbb smileys not round? 07:20 <epsy> phpbb3* 07:21 <luke-jr> epsy: #Anime 07:21 <epsy> uhm no 07:22 <luke-jr> uhm yes 07:29 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@160.206-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #armagetron 07:32 <epsy> z-man-work, https://bugs.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+bug/245925/comments/9 07:32 <teabot> Launchpad bug 245925 in mesa "Both types of display list crash client during play." [Undecided,New] 07:33 <epsy> z-man-work, did it crash using 7.2 as well? 07:33 <epsy> hm, guess I will test 07:48 -!- Lucifer [n=satan@cpe-70-113-115-39.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 07:49 <epsy> bbl 07:49 -!- epsy [n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy] has quit [".. and remember, Have'em caps !"] 07:53 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@160.206-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [] 07:58 -!- tronner [i=p4@unaffiliated/tronner] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 07:58 -!- tronner [i=p4@unaffiliated/tronner] has joined #armagetron 08:31 -!- Lucifer [n=satan@cpe-70-113-115-39.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron 08:59 -!- hang3r [n=nathan@ppp59-167-101-162.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #armagetron 09:03 -!- zmanuel [n=manuel@p50872F31.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron 09:06 -!- caffinat0r [n=caffinat@c-76-28-133-233.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [] 10:09 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r947 Respect display list blacklist even in debug mode.... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r946 Extended display list blacklist to Mesa 7.1.... 10:34 -!- zmanuel [n=manuel@p50872F31.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 11:00 -!- armabot [n=armabot@83.243.117.49.dynamic.cablesurf.de] has joined #armagetron 11:40 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8653 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. configure.ac): Manuel Moos: Moved MAXCLIENTS from CXXFLAGS to config.h. 11:52 -!- PinkTomato [n=sam@hn-33-24.brookes.ac.uk] has joined #armagetron 12:15 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r948 Moved MAXCLIENTS from CXXFLAGS to config.h.... 13:11 -!- epsy [n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy] has joined #aRmAgEtROn 13:13 -!- MaZuffeR [n=mazuffer@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has joined #armagetron 13:28 <z-man-work> epsy: I hadn't tested 7.2 properly when I added that comment :) 13:31 <z-man-work> (That is, indirectly I had. Kubuntu 8.10 comes with it but with a GLX setup, and I had worked that quite a bit before I had installed the other versions from source without crashes.) 13:43 -!- Monkey_arma [n=Monkey@unaffiliated/monkeyarma] has joined #armagetron 13:49 <epsy> z-man-work, well, it didn't crash, but it has a broken vsync, so I guess I'll stay on the old drivers :\ 13:50 <z-man-work> Good. No display lists for you, then! 13:50 <epsy> haha 13:51 <epsy> it's crap, I get 50fps with the old drivers and display lists off and 30 with the new drivers 13:52 <epsy> I'll try to turn it off, if it is possible 13:54 <z-man-work> Also, check if the vsync problem only affects Arma. 13:54 <epsy> yeah, good idea 13:54 <z-man-work> I suppose you tried the different swap modes already? (Fastest/glFlush/glFinish) 13:55 <epsy> yeah, tried that along with vsync mode 13:55 <epsy> motion blur semt to be as the only that changed anything 13:56 <z-man-work> Yeah, it writes directly to the front buffer and doesn't swap at all. In a way, it's the "safest" option. 13:57 <z-man-work> On linux, the ingame vsync option only works for NVidia cards, by the way. 13:58 <z-man-work> If you find out which environment variable your driver listens to for that, share it and I'll add it, too. 13:58 <epsy> so, after one warsow round, it hit the 75fps limit in an empty area of the map, but had poor performance overall 13:58 <epsy> yeah, that's what I am looking for 14:04 <z-man-work> There's several swap_interval extensions, but your driver supports none :( 14:04 <z-man-work> Not even GLX_MESA_swap_control. 14:04 <epsy> yeah, intel drivers suck, whatever they say 14:05 <epsy> brb 14:05 <z-man-work> <luke mode>But They Are Open Source! 14:05 <epsy> yeah, that's what he says 14:06 -!- epsy [n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy] has quit [".. and remember, Have'em caps !"] 14:06 -!- epsy [n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy] has joined #aRmAgEtROn 14:07 <epsy> first, lets see if resizing windows doesnt crash X_x 14:07 <epsy> woot, that's better 14:08 <epsy> and the broken vsync is still on 14:18 -!- epsy [n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy] has quit [".. and remember, Have'em caps !"] 14:51 -!- epsy [n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy] has joined #armagetron 15:02 -!- MrWordPress [n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy] has joined #aRmAgEtROn 15:03 -!- epsy [n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy] has quit ["leaving"] 15:03 -!- MrWordPress is now known as epsy 15:07 -!- tronner [i=p4@unaffiliated/tronner] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 15:08 -!- tronner [i=p4@unaffiliated/tronner] has joined #armagetron 15:42 -!- ct|kyle [n=kyle@pool-71-97-143-186.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron 15:52 -!- PinkTomato [n=sam@hn-33-24.brookes.ac.uk] has quit ["Leaving."] 16:04 -!- epsy [n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy] has quit [".. and remember, Have'em caps !"] 16:06 -!- caffinat0r [n=caffinat@c-76-28-133-233.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #armagetron 16:10 -!- madmax [n=madmax@unaffiliated/madmax] has joined #armagetron 16:14 <noob13> !wc 16:29 -!- epsy [n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy] has joined #aRmAgEtROn 16:33 -!- epsy [n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy] has quit [Client Quit] 16:47 -!- epsy [n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy] has joined #aRmAgEtROn 17:03 -!- akira_arma [n=chatzill@77.64.161.27] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.4/2008102920]"] 17:04 -!- akira_arma [n=chatzill@77.64.161.27] has joined #armagetron 17:28 -!- Lackadaisical [n=lckdscl@ip202-29-210-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #armagetron 17:30 -!- K-Yo [n=K-Yo@unaffiliated/k-yo] has joined #armagetron 17:32 <akira_arma> http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7a03e5b6-c541-11dd-b516-000077b07658.html?nclick_check=1 17:32 <akira_arma> :) 17:32 <akira_arma> guess its time to openly admit the plans for the NWO 17:33 <akira_arma> :) 17:34 -!- freako [i=541fbdee@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9a2b5833f069fe70] has joined #armagetron 17:34 <akira_arma> and its citing 3 fabricated reasons: 17:35 <epsy> @title http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7a03e5b6-c541-11dd-b516-000077b07658.html?nclick_check=1 17:35 <teabot> epsy: FT.com / Columnists / Gideon Rachman - And now for a world government 17:35 <akira_arma> not bad huh :) 17:36 <akira_arma> goddamn elitists :/ 17:36 <akira_arma> walking over billions of ocrpses 17:36 <freako> akira: how did the server crash get solved during the ladle? 17:37 <freako> want to know how they did it :p 17:37 <akira_arma> we started new game and observers counted points 17:38 <freako> oh ok :) 17:38 <SageLord> hi freako :) 17:38 <freako> hi sagelord! 17:38 <freako> since when ur an IRC addict? :o 17:40 <SageLord> :P 17:41 <SageLord> since maybe 3 days ago? :O 17:41 <freako> damned, I knew it >.< 17:41 <SageLord> haha 17:41 <epsy> I would get bashed for saying "since 3 days" at school 17:41 <SageLord> Oo 17:43 <SageLord> why is that? 17:43 <epsy> because it's wrong! :P 17:43 <freako> Sagelord: How many times is the brawl supposed to be played? And with how many time between 2 brawls* 17:44 <freako> I need to know when I can play the next ladle* :) 17:44 <epsy> freako, how many times is the ladle supposed to be played? 17:44 <SageLord> what do you mean how many times? 17:44 <freako> once a month... 17:44 <SageLord> its played on only one sunday 17:44 <epsy> how often you mean 17:44 <freako> yup :) 17:44 <SageLord> oh... well i'm not sure, it depends on how people react to the tournament 17:45 <SageLord> if people don't like it, it will probably die, and if people like it, we can do it as often as people want to 17:45 <freako> I-m a bit lost... I can-t use my own pc this week ... and this one is shit 17:45 <freako> It-s so shit that I can't read all ur tournament things :/ 17:45 -!- speedx [n=speed@ip-88-207-231-120.dyn.luxdsl.pt.lu] has joined #armagetron 17:45 <SageLord> hmm? 17:45 <epsy> freako, /topic #armagetron.tourneys 17:46 * BabyBug cuddles epsy 17:46 <epsy> hello BabyBug 17:46 <BabyBug> \o 17:46 <freako> I 17:47 <SageLord> what do you mean you can't read it all? 17:48 <freako> So shall I plan the next ladle 1 week after the Brawl* >? Or the first week of february? 17:48 <epsy> well, it only works on windows seven, you know 17:48 <SageLord> haha definately not, tst is planned one week after brawl 17:48 <epsy> spoiled 17:48 <freako> sagelord: this pc is so shit... it costs like 4 minutes to load ur forums 17:48 <SageLord> oh, i mean 17:48 <SageLord> :S 17:48 <epsy> :P 17:48 <freako> my parens cut my internet because i was playing late (the ladle) 17:48 <K-Yo> SageLord, hi 17:49 <K-Yo> SageLord, I can't reply to your forums, registration needed? 17:49 <freako> k-ro yup 17:49 <SageLord> erm, i thought registration wasn't needed to respond to sign ups 17:49 <SageLord> durka must have changed it 17:50 <K-Yo> darn 17:50 <epsy> hm- 17:50 <K-Yo> and durka did not reply to me 17:50 <freako> Signup doesn't take long, no e-mail confirmation 17:50 <K-Yo> I had an account on ur old forums, do I need to make a new one? 17:50 <K-Yo> my last one won't work :( 17:50 <epsy> well, email confirmation can be done in 1 minute freako..lol 17:50 <SageLord> thats because we moved to different forums 17:51 <freako> not on this shit pc ;) 17:51 -!- dlh [n=dlh@c-75-69-147-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #armagetron 17:51 <freako> so I was happy it was not there . 17:51 <SageLord> so you'll probably hvae to register again 17:51 <SageLord> sorry freako :/ 17:52 <K-Yo> okay 17:52 <K-Yo> speedx, u can talk to me through IRC instead of PMs :P 17:53 <freako> :) 17:55 <freako> Odd. no irc logs from yesterday 17:55 <freako> on wrtlprnft's 17:55 <SageLord> ok, guests can now post only in the sign-up thread 17:55 <epsy> yeah, wrtl's running through home network trouble 17:56 <K-Yo> SageLord, cool :) 17:56 <epsy> his only working link is the link to freenode, heh 17:57 * freako would go crazy... if he only could use freenode 17:57 <SageLord> is that good kyo? 17:57 <epsy> uhm, you're using it.. 17:57 <freako> only* :) 17:58 <K-Yo> SageLord, perfect :) 17:58 <SageLord> :D 17:58 <epsy> ok you lost me 17:58 <K-Yo> so, who's up for some fort? 17:59 <SageLord> lol, i like your preferred fortress positions 17:59 <K-Yo> SageLord, thx ;) 17:59 <epsy> I still didnt chose mines 17:59 <freako> I would like 2, but this pc only gets like 1 fps :/ 17:59 <K-Yo> freako, argh 18:00 <freako> 1,6 Ghz ftw! 18:00 <K-Yo> woot 18:00 <epsy> 1,6GHz is fine.. 18:00 <freako> 23 mb intel video :) 18:00 <freako> 32 i mean *\ 18:00 <K-Yo> I got 1,7 18:00 <K-Yo> I got 1,7GHz 18:00 <epsy> intel video does not have it'sx won memory, so wtf are these 23Mb ? 18:01 <epsy> it's own* 18:01 <freako> shared memory I thought, or it's a integrated one 18:01 -!- speedx [n=speed@ip-88-207-231-120.dyn.luxdsl.pt.lu] has quit ["Verlassend"] 18:01 <SageLord> all right guys, i gotta head out, got a final today to study for 18:01 <epsy> yeah..you can change it 18:01 <epsy> bb 18:01 <SageLord> bye :) 18:02 <freako> cya 18:02 <freako> anyways, shared memory sucks most of the time 18:02 <epsy> yeah, but not to the point of 1 fps 18:03 <freako> Then there's something wrong with this pc (idk all specifics) 18:03 <K-Yo> bigfarm? 18:03 <K-Yo> u* 18:03 <epsy> what OS are you runing on it? 18:03 <freako> hopefully I can play the ladle next time, without losing my internet :/ 18:04 <freako> Xp 18:04 <freako> XP * 18:04 <epsy> hmm.. 18:08 <BabyBug> bugfarm is rigged! 18:09 <freako> rigged* ? 18:09 <epsy> that's exactly what she wrote.. 18:10 <BabyBug> =P 18:10 <freako> What is the meaning of Rigged? 18:11 <BabyBug> erm 18:11 <BabyBug> im not sure how one would explain it 18:12 <epsy> freako: http://dictionnaire.sensagent.com/rigged/en-nl/ 18:13 <freako> Epsy , that dictionary tells me that it's a truck :P 18:13 <freako> bugfarm is a truck :O 18:14 <epsy> she said it rigged, not that it was a rig 18:14 <BabyBug> LOL 18:14 <epsy> look the last translation 18:14 <freako> uhm... that means 18:14 <epsy> [18:13] <epsy>: look the last translation 18:15 <BabyBug> its faked, somethings been done to it to ensure a specific thing happens...And that thing is i die!! =( 18:15 <freako> optuigen = making a chrismas tree beautifull with stuff 18:15 <epsy> it's opgetuigd .. 18:16 <epsy> you even have trouble at reading your own language O_O 18:16 <freako> lol... so the server looks like christmas tree lol 18:16 <epsy> she basically means it's up and running 18:16 <freako> a christmas tree is opgetuigd* 18:16 <epsy> and floating like a boat 18:18 <BabyBug> floating like a boat?! 18:18 <BabyBug> I do not mean that >< 18:19 <epsy> just keep the up and running part, and that it runs smoothly 18:19 <freako> optuigen: embellish - dress up - beautify - Decorate - Garnish - Doll up - Decorating 18:19 <freako> 18:15 BabyBug its faked ... is that smooth :O 18:20 <freako> blah dinner :) 18:20 <BabyBug> men == idiots 18:22 <epsy> is that an assertion? 18:23 <BabyBug> Yup 18:24 * epsy sends a SIGABRT to BabyBug 18:25 -!- iccleoldme [n=BabyBug@87.113.8.95.plusnet.pte-ag1.dyn.plus.net] has joined #armagetron 18:25 <epsy> haha 18:26 <iccleoldme> ...... 18:26 <epsy> <3 18:27 <iccleoldme> Why does babybug take so fricken long to quit >< 18:27 <epsy> [18:22] <BabyBug>: Yup 18:27 <epsy> [18:23] * epsy sends a SIGABRT to BabyBug 18:27 <epsy> [18:25] * iccleoldme [n=BabyBug@87.113.8.95.plusnet.pte-ag1.dyn.plus.net] a rejoint #armagetron 18:28 <iccleoldme> bash.org worthy? =P 18:28 <epsy> I'll wait for the timeout ^^ 18:28 <iccleoldme> hehe 18:31 <Monkey_arma> iccleoldme: /GHOST <nick> <password> - Kills a ghosted name 18:31 <iccleoldme> what password? :s 18:32 <Monkey_arma> ah 18:32 <Monkey_arma> you need to register 18:32 <ct|kyle> z-man-work: Bug 253720, was a conflicting server setting, 18:32 <teabot> Launchpad bug 253720 in armagetronad "Camera locks to one position (Incam)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/253720 18:32 <epsy> * /msg nickserv ghost <nick> <pass> 18:32 <epsy> BabyBug, your nickserv pass 18:32 <Monkey_arma> when you finally get Babybug back, type /msg nickserv register <password> 18:33 <iccleoldme> epsy, what's my nickserv pass? :P 18:33 * ct|kyle sends BabyBug some drinks :) 18:33 <Monkey_arma> (where you choose a password instead of <password> 18:33 <z-man-work> ct|kyle: still sounds like a bug to me. 18:33 <iccleoldme> Oh ok Monkey_arma =) 18:33 <Monkey_arma> then to login each time: 18:33 <Monkey_arma> /msg nickserv identify <password> 18:33 <Monkey_arma> ok? 18:33 <iccleoldme> okies :) 18:33 <Monkey_arma> k 18:33 <ct|kyle> z-man-work: sine.wav or hoop will know the settings they had to change, i'll ask them when they are in here 18:33 * iccleoldme kicks BabyBug away 18:33 <z-man-work> k 18:43 -!- BabyBug [n=BabyBug@87.115.17.203.plusnet.pcl-ag01.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:44 -!- iccleoldme is now known as BabyBug 18:44 <BabyBug> finally 18:45 -!- freako [i=541fbdee@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9a2b5833f069fe70] has quit ["http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client"] 18:49 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: you should have another baby :P, then you can keep playing tron :P 18:50 <BabyBug> no thank you =P 18:59 -!- PinkTomato [n=sam@hn-33-24.brookes.ac.uk] has joined #armagetron 19:04 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: i'm not sure what the problem is with the server browser 19:04 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: though it is working again 19:07 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: Ah right, that's odd. Well glad it's back up :) 19:11 -!- G5 [n=G5@cl-506.dus-01.de.sixxs.net] has joined #Armagetron 19:16 -!- Lizmatic [n=Lizmatic@78-27-12-206.dsl.alice.nl] has joined #armagetron 19:18 * Lizmatic boo 19:19 * BabyBug squeezes Lizmatic 19:25 -!- hoax [n=hoax@unaffiliated/hoax] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:30 -!- Lackadaisical [n=lckdscl@ip202-29-210-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 19:30 -!- Lackadaisical [n=lckdscl@ip202-29-210-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #armagetron 20:09 * Lizmatic yelps 20:11 -!- hoax [n=hoax@dyn-62-56-83-223.dslaccess.co.uk] has joined #armagetron 20:19 <K-Yo> .servers 20:19 <tronner> K-Yo: This data is 18 seconds old; The YELLOW Submarine (13/16), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (12/12), - | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | - (10/16), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (9/12), Wild West =Capture The Flag= (8/10), Wild West =Capture The Flag= ~Multi~Mode~ (7/10), Bugfarm Elimination Sumo (6/16), WILDCAT (6/8), |FA| BLACK TAR (5/16), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (5/12), Wild West =CTF (2 more messages) 20:20 <K-Yo> .ctos 20:20 <tronner> K-Yo: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo: Players (0/12): 20:20 <K-Yo> ah 20:21 <Lizmatic> pwned 20:32 <K-Yo> indeed 20:33 <K-Yo> .bug 20:33 <tronner> K-Yo: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “bugfarm fortress clone” at the moment, sorry. 20:33 <K-Yo> .si bug 20:33 <tronner> K-Yo: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “bug” at the moment, sorry. 20:33 -!- mkzelda_ [n=mkzelda@cpe-066-057-232-057.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron 20:36 <ct|kyle> z-man-work: bug updated 20:38 -!- dlh [n=dlh@c-75-69-147-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 20:39 <wrtlprnft> epsy: it fixed itself by now 20:39 <epsy> heh, well you had good luck I guess 20:40 <wrtlprnft> it wasn't my fault 20:41 <epsy> wrtlprnft, the chatlogs are still frozen by the way 20:41 <wrtlprnft> ah, right, i killed the script updating them by accident 20:41 <wrtlprnft> there they are 20:41 <epsy> well, fortress café isn't your fault either, but we're still waiting for news from you about it 20:41 <wrtlprnft> heh, my fault for not having the time :-S 20:42 <wrtlprnft> and it's quite frustrating 20:42 <epsy> also, I'm not sure if it's possible, but wouldn't it be wiser to have the list of logs shown in the opposite order? 20:43 <wrtlprnft> click on the column headings? 20:43 <wrtlprnft> it's an apache autogenerated index, after all 20:43 <epsy> it won't ever remember it will it? 20:43 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armalogs/?C=N;O=D 20:44 <wrtlprnft> tell me how to change the default order and i'll do it 20:46 <epsy> wrtlprnft: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/mod/mod_autoindex.html#indexorderdefault 20:49 <wrtlprnft> i knew this would result in work… done 20:49 <epsy> hey, you only took 3 minutes on it! :) 20:50 -!- mkzelda [n=mkzelda@unaffiliated/mkzelda] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:51 <wrtlprnft> i even fixed the icons (again) 20:51 <wrtlprnft> whoever had the glorious idea to make them a symlink to a versioned directory (and not be updated automatically) should be shot 20:54 <wrtlprnft> anyways, i'll try updating again, and compile a new kernel. maybe that's gonna work 20:55 <epsy> updating cafai? 20:55 <wrtlprnft> yeah 20:55 <epsy> uhm yeah, good luck :) 20:55 <wrtlprnft> maybe the thing that's making trouble will rebuild 20:56 <wrtlprnft> failing that i might as well download the entire harddrive, cancel my contract and get a new server to start a new. it's probably gonna be better hardware-wise, and if the entire thing was just a hardware issue it won't bother me anymore 20:56 <epsy> haha 21:02 <wrtlprnft> wah, this rescue system has the worst possible .screenrc 21:02 <epsy> at least it stayed online the last four months :x 21:03 <wrtlprnft> well, i rebooted it a couple of times while trying to fix it 21:04 <epsy> 4 months vs few hours 21:04 <wrtlprnft> hehe 21:04 <wrtlprnft> i'll be so mad if i find out this is a faulty sata cable or something 21:04 <epsy> rescue system wins :< 21:05 <luke-jr> http://www.bbspot.com/News/2008/12/linux-on-a-potato.html 21:05 <epsy> did you think about running arma on the rescue OS? 21:06 <K-Yo> http://www.bbspot.com/News/2000/9/linux_laid.html 21:07 <wrtlprnft> too screwy 21:10 -!- zmanuel [n=manuel@p50872AD0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron 21:12 <wrtlprnft> i actually did that for a couple of days 21:12 <wrtlprnft> but most other services don't run well in chroot, especially sshd 21:12 <epsy> indeed that wouldn't work 21:13 <wrtlprnft> i tied that a couple of times, but i ended up losing all connection to the recue system and having to reboot it 21:15 -!- hang3r [n=nathan@ppp59-167-101-162.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has quit ["hanged"] 21:25 -!- SageLord2 [i=8107ca79@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-79662519f91f72f9] has joined #armagetron 21:25 <SageLord2> ahoy 21:25 <epsy> yoha 21:25 <SageLord2> d: 21:25 <epsy> so, uhm, defender/sweeper? 21:27 <epsy> K-Yo, you *should* give in your preferences btw (also *cough* at lack & max :) ) 21:27 <SageLord2> haha 21:28 <K-Yo> epsy, what if I really don't have any? 21:28 <SageLord2> yea if you don't give your preferences, you won't be listed under any position if team captains want to sort by position 21:28 <SageLord2> <<<creating a spreadsheet 21:28 <K-Yo> where's the bad part in that? 21:28 <SageLord2> there's nothing wrong with it 21:28 <epsy> then pick a piece of paper, write down fortress positions on it, close your eyes and let whatever drop on it 21:28 <K-Yo> cool then 21:28 <SageLord2> haha 21:28 <K-Yo> haha 21:28 -!- Lizmatic [n=Lizmatic@78-27-12-206.dsl.alice.nl] has left #armagetron ["Leaving"] 21:29 -!- Lizmatic [n=Lizmatic@78-27-12-206.dsl.alice.nl] has joined #armagetron 21:29 <SageLord2> i'll make a new category... "undecided" 21:29 <epsy> SageLord2, that will be a nightmare 21:29 <SageLord2> haha 21:29 <SageLord2> yea... 21:29 <K-Yo> wait 21:29 <K-Yo> you need one? 21:29 <K-Yo> if you do I can give you some 21:29 <Lizmatic> sage, what happened to TR website? 21:29 <SageLord2> it would be nice, just pick 2 21:29 <K-Yo> put me in def/2/3 21:29 <epsy> in TST, there was a team that didn't want preferences 21:30 <SageLord2> liz: one of ~X~'s friends was paying it for us 21:30 <epsy> I passed like half an hour on thinking about what I would do with that 21:30 <SageLord2> and he didn't want to pay for it anymore 21:30 <epsy> Lizmatic, http://twisted-rats.co.cc/ 21:30 <Lizmatic> ah.. 21:30 <SageLord2> so goody and i were going to help pay for it 21:30 <SageLord2> but then durka said something that ticked him off 21:30 <SageLord2> so he closed it down lol 21:30 <SageLord2> so... new forums! :) 21:31 <Lizmatic> JOOOOMIA 21:31 <Lizmatic> JOOMIA! lol 21:31 <epsy> joomla :| 21:31 <epsy> suckss :| 21:32 <SageLord2> what's that? :S 21:32 <Lizmatic> ..your website 21:32 <Lizmatic> joomla foo 21:32 <SageLord2> oh 21:32 <SageLord2> hahaha 21:32 <SageLord2> whoops :p 21:32 <SageLord2> what's wrong with it? 21:32 <SageLord2> :s 21:33 <epsy> it's..empty? 21:33 <Lizmatic> um *cough* 21:33 <Lizmatic> have you never seen your frontpage sage?:P 21:33 <SageLord2> yea... a long time ago 21:33 <SageLord2> i just go straight to the forums 21:33 <SageLord2> twisted-rats.co.cc/forum 21:34 <Lizmatic> good plan 21:34 <SageLord2> xP 21:35 -!- dlh [n=dlh@c-75-69-147-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #armagetron 21:36 <epsy> You should hide that joomla stuff before it's ready, I'd say 21:36 <SageLord2> haha, well 21:36 <SageLord2> i'll get to it, or ask durka to get to it 21:36 <SageLord2> idk if he wants me messing with the forums/website more than i have already :P 21:37 * epsy decided he would stop trying to mess with phpbb 21:37 <Lizmatic> punbb ftw 21:37 <epsy> nah, not rly 21:37 <Lizmatic> how dare you 21:37 <armabot> fts_feedback: Concord - rain || rain - re-visit scoring system || Concord - that sucked 21:38 <epsy> holy shit café's up 21:38 <wrtlprnft> lol 21:38 <wrtlprnft> ssh rain@arma 21:38 <wrtlprnft> new kernel from scratch was the trick 21:38 <epsy> and do you know if it will stay up for more than an hour? 21:38 <wrtlprnft> (and not forgetting to enable the drivers for reiserfs, my network card and the sata controller, all of which are disabled by default) 21:38 <wrtlprnft> well, it's the original system 21:39 <epsy> Lizmatic, start ¦×¦ sumo or not? 21:39 <wrtlprnft> the next voluntary reboot will be a while, that much is sure 21:40 <wrtlprnft> need to rebuild it, though 21:40 <wrtlprnft> and probably update 21:40 <epsy> the kernel? 21:40 <wrtlprnft> no, arma 21:41 <Lizmatic> sumo what huh where 21:41 <SageLord2> o: 21:41 <epsy> ah, I've been using my own builds for a little while now 21:41 <wrtlprnft> cc1plus: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-strict-overflow" 21:41 <epsy> but well, I'll lay that on tomorrow 21:42 <wrtlprnft> err, maybe there should be some checking whether gcc 4.3 is actually used? 21:43 <epsy> $ ssh-xfort 21:43 <epsy> Permission denied (publickey). 21:44 <wrtlprnft> give me a public key then 21:44 <wrtlprnft> (although it shouldn't have changed) 22:11 <Lizmatic> haha @ everyone going to x sumo 22:11 <Lizmatic> *laughs at kyo* 22:11 <Lizmatic> NERRR 22:11 <SageLord2> o: 22:14 -!- BabyBug [n=BabyBug@87.113.8.95.plusnet.pte-ag1.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 22:14 -!- BabyBug [n=BabyBug@87.113.8.95.plusnet.pte-ag1.dyn.plus.net] has joined #armagetron 22:16 -!- sinewav [n=sinewav@adsl-75-22-225-118.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #armagetron 22:22 <armabot> lpbugs: [306969] compiling fails with gcc-4.1.2 and CODELEVEL>=1 due to -W-no-strict-overflow 22:28 -!- zmanuel [n=manuel@p50872AD0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [No route to host] 22:31 -!- zmanuel [n=manuel@p50872AD0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron 22:32 <fonkay> Lucifer: Not hard enough. ;) 22:39 <hoax> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXfHLUlZf4 22:43 * PinkTomato is happy to see |X|sumo is back :0 22:43 <PinkTomato> :) 22:44 <epsy> I am happy I can win matches with a simple console command again 22:48 <PinkTomato> lol epsy :) 22:55 <SageLord2> all right time for my circuit analysis final... wish me luck :S 22:58 <SageLord2> i want to see 5 more people signed up for Fortress Brawl before I get back, ok? :D 23:01 <K-Yo> when do you come back? 23:01 <SageLord2> 4 hours 23:01 <SageLord2> ish 23:02 <SageLord2> long final... i hope i don't fall asleep in the middle of it ;) 23:03 <epsy> SageLord2, uhm, good luck 23:03 <SageLord2> :p 23:04 <hoax> gtfo sage 23:04 <hoax> as if you need it 23:05 <SageLord2> haha 23:05 <PinkTomato> +1 from me :) 23:06 <PinkTomato> you only need 3 more now 23:06 <SageLord2> haha great :) 23:06 <SageLord2> but i haven't left yet... so still 4 23:06 <SageLord2> :D 23:06 <epsy> haha :D 23:12 -!- GodTodd_ [n=TheTruth@pool-96-226-124-149.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:13 -!- GodTodd [n=TheTruth@pool-96-226-124-149.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron 23:13 <SageLord2> k now i'm leaving, bye guys :) 23:13 -!- SageLord2 [i=8107ca79@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-79662519f91f72f9] has quit ["http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client"] 23:13 <epsy> ok so four remaining 23:21 -!- perlbot2 [n=perlbot2@2002:3ff5:9f4e:1234:20c:f1ff:fea6:2c87] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:22 -!- ICanEvalToo [n=ICanEval@2002:3ff5:9f4e:1234:20c:f1ff:fea6:2c87] has joined #armagetron 23:23 -!- epsy [n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy] has quit [".. and remember, Have'em caps !"] 23:25 -!- MaZuffeR [n=mazuffer@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 23:38 -!- ICanEvalToo is now known as perlbot2 23:44 <madmax> fortress anyone? (in the real fortress café) 23:45 <akira_arma> i'd be in 23:45 <sinewav> 0_0 the REAL one? 23:45 <madmax> #sd -v café 23:46 <armabot> madmax: Fortress Café (armagetron.at:4539) running 0.2.8_alpha20080805 unix dedicated, url: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/, Description: “This is a fortress server. Expect to be kicked if you don't know how to play. To learn how to play try http://wiki.armagetronad.net/“, Players (1/32): madmax 23:46 -!- antric [n=anonymou@S0106001839c1653e.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:50 -!- Flex [i=Flex@unaffiliated/flex] has joined #armagetron 23:50 <Lizmatic> flex 23:51 <Flex> yes? 23:51 <Lizmatic> did you know that the word faggot starts with F too? 23:51 <Lizmatic> (no I will not answer you!) 23:52 <Flex> oh yeah.. 23:52 <K-Yo> gz wrtlprnft having ur server back up ;) 23:53 <Monkey_arma> guys, come and support pink tomatoes in the quest for sumo server domination 23:53 <Lizmatic> what? 23:53 <Monkey_arma> (North American) 23:54 <K-Yo> Monkey_arma, ?? 23:54 <madmax> come and support fortress by joining café \o/ 23:56 <dlh> #sd -v café 23:56 <armabot> dlh: Fortress Café (armagetron.at:4539) running 0.2.8_alpha20080805 unix dedicated, url: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/, Description: “This is a fortress server. Expect to be kicked if you don't know how to play. To learn how to play try http://wiki.armagetronad.net/“, Players (4/32): akira (akira@forums), free kill, ikono, madmaxView entire month
is a site that has tools, maps, and other various items. It orignally only existed as a server control panel, but I slowly began adding stuff such as a homepage and tools.
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This is an LLM-free zone. In general, I am unwilling to use (fight with) any form of "GenAI" to write code for me. So, for the forseeable future, everything on this site will continue to be written by a very silly goose (wait that's me honk honk) with some parts written by other humans as well (silly hu-mon) rather than any plausible-series-of-words token-eating machine. Even my libraries are out of date, and suddenly that's a good thing!
(Although the style has changed several times and content has been added and changed, the base of this site has barely been updated since 2015. But it Ain't Broke!)
This site is also occasionally tested with older browsers, but compatibility is not guarenteed. Although, if you have an old obscure browser and something isn't working that previously did, I guess you can tell me (nelg) about it...
Gridder
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