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Log from 2008-04-08:
--- Day changed Tue Apr 08 2008
00:01 <Flex> i'm hungry Monkey_arma :(
00:01 <Monkey_arma> get some food
00:01 <Monkey_arma> i am just about to have some crumble i thjink
00:03 <Flex> need to post the fff thingy
00:03 <Flex> do you know the exact results of the final..
00:03 <Flex> or any ss's
00:03 <Flex> or recording
00:03 <Monkey_arma> zman recorded the second half
00:03 <Monkey_arma> check the logs from sunday
00:03 <Flex> is there a link somewhere to that
00:03 <Monkey_arma> check the irc logs
00:03 <Monkey_arma> i narrated the scores
00:03 <Flex> i don't have logs
00:04 <Monkey_arma> first was 148-48 to armaholics
00:04 <Monkey_arma> kyo might have ss
00:04 <armabot> Flex: monkey is 2487th with a rating of 1477-1496 (from 1483-1500)
00:04 <Monkey_arma> not for all though
00:04 <Monkey_arma> how slow is armabot
00:04 <armabot> pong
00:04 <Monkey_arma> lmao
00:04 <Flex> #rating flex
00:05 <Flex> gotta keep the bots working :D
00:05 <Flex> or they'll try to invade us and stuff
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00:05 <Flex> :d
00:06 <Flex> z-man, do you happened to have the fff final record uploaded somewhere? :)
00:06 <z-man> Yes, the bits I do have are on the FFF thread.
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00:13 <madmax> "Oversized packet received" hmm
00:14 <Flex> nexus9 orgy? :D
00:15 <madmax> o_O
00:16 <madmax> z-man: is an "Oversized packet received" interesting? just happened on the no rubber fortress server
00:16 <z-man> Do you have it recorded?
00:16 <madmax> er, no.
00:16 <noob7> join again madmax :D
00:17 <madmax> but noob7 can probably set rubber back to 0 because i think it was something related to that
00:18 <noob7> done
00:21 <Monkey_arma> ok i got the oversized error too
00:21 <noob7> weird
00:21 <madmax> alright, got it z-man :P
00:22 <madmax> wait, something's wrong with the recorder x_X
00:23 <noob7> theres all kinds of weird stuff going on if you want some recordings for your "weird stuff" collection
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00:27 <Monkey_arma> i dont think there is much weird stuff
00:27 <Monkey_arma> its just peoples isps
00:27 <noob7> everybody being stuck at the walls?
00:27 <noob7> Oo
00:28 <Monkey_arma> ok now a little strange
00:28 <madmax> yes noob7, a lot
00:29 <madmax> something is very wrong with that server :P
00:29 <madmax> z-man: i have it if you want, but that server is a mess everytime you enter it
00:29 <noob7> I told 13 he was smoking crystal meth again but nobody would listen to me
00:31 <z-man> Guess I'll just pay it a visit then.
00:32 <noob7> all other server instances are fine
00:38 <noob13> hah! that was trippy..
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01:02 <noob7> so z-man, what were those packets?
01:03 <Flex> Monkey_arma
01:03 <Monkey_arma> yes Flex
01:03 <Flex> can you come x sumo for a sec? :)
01:04 <z-man> noob7: nothing yet.
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01:09 <Monkey_arma> Flex, i will be there in 5
01:09 <Flex> don't worry, guess it's fine now
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01:11 <madmax> #ping
01:11 <armabot> pong
01:12 <Monkey_arma> #pong
01:12 <armabot> ping
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01:21 <Flex> #rating flex
01:21 <armabot> Flex: flex is 437th with a rating of 1588-1634 (from 1150-1850)
01:27 <Monkey_arma> i dont think so
01:27 <Flex> why not
01:28 <Monkey_arma> thats a bit good
01:29 <Flex> it is?
01:29 <Flex> that's shit
01:29 <Monkey_arma> i am ranked 234352
01:29 <Flex> #rating luke-jr
01:29 <madmax> #rating "Player 1"
01:29 <armabot> Flex: luke-jr is 62nd with a rating of 1659-1699 (from 1664-1695)
01:29 <armabot> madmax: player_1 is 3966th with a rating of 1427-1443 (from 1450-1460)
01:29 <madmax> now that's bad
01:29 <Monkey_arma> luke-jr my arse
01:29 <Flex> now if luke is 62 and i'm 400th somethings fucked :D
01:29 <madmax> luke-jr manipules the system in his benefit :P
01:30 <Flex> #rating madmax
01:30 <armabot> Flex: madmax is 219th with a rating of 1614-1642 (from 1619-1638)
01:30 <Flex> now that's really fucked! :D
01:30 <madmax> nexus isn't rated :(
01:30 <Flex> yeah
01:30 <madmax> and i think that thing sucks in team games
01:30 <Flex> yeah
01:31 <madmax> #rating "Player 2"
01:31 <Flex> if you defend and nothing else, you'll auto hit top 10
01:31 <armabot> madmax: player_2 is 6250th with a rating of 1360-1393 (from 1341-1370)
01:31 <Flex> #rating |x|_infamous
01:31 <madmax> #rating "Player 3"
01:31 <armabot> Flex: |x|_infamous is 34th with a rating of 1678-1703 (from 1688-1711)
01:31 <armabot> madmax: player_3 is 6906th with a rating of 1340-1407 (from 1322-1396)
01:31 <Monkey_arma> #rating madmax
01:31 <armabot> Monkey_arma: madmax is 219th with a rating of 1614-1642 (from 1619-1638)
01:32 <Flex> if i could actually be bothered, i'll go catch one of those guys and kill them :p
01:34 <Monkey_arma> #rating durka
01:34 <armabot> Monkey_arma: durka is 2965th with a rating of 1459-1522 (from 1419-1542)
01:34 <Monkey_arma> haha
01:34 <noob7> #rating noob7
01:34 <armabot> noob7: noob7 is 4106th with a rating of 1422-1536 (from 1074-1536)
01:35 <Monkey_arma> :(
01:35 <noob7> :o
01:35 <madmax> #rating "Player 4"
01:35 <Flex> http://ratings.armagetronad.net/?system=cafe
01:35 <armabot> madmax: player_4 is 12183rd with a rating of 1141-1267 (from 1152-1280)
01:35 <madmax> lol
01:35 <Monkey_arma> #rating z-man
01:36 <armabot> Monkey_arma: z-man is 1594th with a rating of 1517-1554 (from 1476-1524)
01:36 <Flex> #rating blumentopf
01:36 <armabot> Flex: blumentopf is 1st with a rating of 1865-2373
01:36 <Flex> #rating cafe flex
01:36 <armabot> Flex: I don't know anything about 'cafe_flex'!
01:37 <madmax> #rating2 cafe flex
01:37 <armabot> madmax: I don't know anything about 'cafe'!
01:37 <madmax> #help rating2
01:37 <armabot> madmax: (rating2 <an alias, 2 arguments>) -- Alias for "web fetch [format concat [format concat http://ratings.armagetronad.net/rating.php?slashes=1&system=[urlquote $2]][format concat &name=[urlquote $1]]]".
01:37 <Flex> #rating2 flex
01:37 <armabot> Flex: (rating2 <an alias, 2 arguments>) -- Alias for "web fetch [format concat [format concat http://ratings.armagetronad.net/rating.php?slashes=1&system=[urlquote $2]][format concat &name=[urlquote $1]]]".
01:37 <madmax> #rating2 flex cafe
01:37 <madmax> heh
01:37 <armabot> madmax: flex is 24th with a rating of 1631-1703 (from 1150-1850) on cafe
01:37 <Flex> yay
01:38 <Flex> #rating2 madmax cafe
01:39 <armabot> Flex: madmax is 45th with a rating of 1607-1647 (from 1611-1648) on cafe
01:39 <Flex> #rating2 Monkey cafe
01:39 <armabot> Flex: monkey is 445th with a rating of 1485-1509 (from 1474-1494) on cafe
01:39 <Flex> hah
01:40 <Monkey_arma> just you wait till i get my upgrade and actually have some fps
01:40 <Monkey_arma> !
01:40 <Monkey_arma> #rating2 durka cafe
01:40 <armabot> Monkey_arma: durka is 1420th with a rating of 1275-1442 (from 1300-1500) on cafe
01:41 <Monkey_arma> lmfao
01:41 <Flex> Monkey_arma i like you how you just are :D no need to impress me :p
01:41 <Monkey_arma> i know
01:41 <Flex> xxx
01:42 <Monkey_arma> what happened to the no rubber fort?
01:43 <Monkey_arma> did you check it out zman?
01:43 <Flex> check this out
01:43 <Flex> #rating whore
01:43 <armabot> Flex: whore is 16th with a rating of 1698-1961 (from 1150-1850)
01:43 <Flex> hah
01:44 <Monkey_arma> i think lack is finally getting some recognition
01:44 <Monkey_arma> #rating lackadaisical
01:44 <armabot> Monkey_arma: lackadaisical is 72nd with a rating of 1655-1696 (from 1704-1755)
01:44 <Monkey_arma> he was higher on the top 25
01:45 <Flex> #rating2 lackadaisical cafe
01:45 <armabot> Flex: lackadaisical is 116th with a rating of 1569-1648 (from 1649-1764) on cafe
01:45 <Monkey_arma> i bet rico is high
01:46 <Monkey_arma> #rating xs20
01:46 <armabot> Monkey_arma: xs2o is 1175th with a rating of 1538-1561 (from 1552-1571)
01:46 <Monkey_arma> or not
01:46 <Flex> na, he doesn't defend publicly anymore
01:46 <Monkey_arma> #rating2 xs20 cafe
01:46 <Flex> he would be highest if he did
01:46 <armabot> Monkey_arma: xs2o is 141st with a rating of 1560-1590 (from 1575-1601) on cafe
01:46 <Flex> who is gcc?
01:47 <Monkey_arma> dunno
01:47 <Flex> #rating ~|ds|~|alien|~
01:47 <armabot> Flex: ~|ds|~|alien|~ is 189th with a rating of 1619-1648 (from 1624-1646)
01:47 <madmax> the gnu c compiler
01:47 <Monkey_arma> he means as a player
01:47 <Monkey_arma> i think...
01:47 <Flex> #rating2 ~|ds|~|alien|~ cafe
01:47 <armabot> Flex: ~|ds|~|alien|~ is 8th with a rating of 1671-1739 (from 1673-1737) on cafe
01:47 <Monkey_arma> !
01:47 <Flex> #rating2 gcc cafe
01:47 <madmax> i know, i saw 'it' on the top :P
01:47 <armabot> Flex: gcc is 1st with a rating of 1717-1785 (from 1718-1783) on cafe
01:47 <madmax> gcc is usually a bot
01:47 <Flex> usually?
01:47 <Flex> a bot can't be that high on cafe..
01:48 <Monkey_arma> #rating psyko
01:48 <madmax> lol
01:48 <armabot> Monkey_arma: psyko is 344th with a rating of 1597-1615 (from 1601-1613)
01:48 <Monkey_arma> #rating2 psyko cafe
01:48 <madmax> can't you see the thing is flawed? :P
01:48 <armabot> Monkey_arma: psyko is 57th with a rating of 1601-1663 (from 1603-1661) on cafe
01:48 <Flex> have you noticed that when you play with bots on local game, they always create a swastika..
01:48 <Flex> cough cough.. zman is a nazi cough
01:49 <Monkey_arma> who is up for cafe now? there are 5 of us minimum
01:49 <Flex> i'll play for a bit.. but who's five?
01:50 <Monkey_arma> noob7 noob13 me max you ..whoever else
01:50 <Monkey_arma> radian and ashi are on ctwf
01:50 <Monkey_arma> they will come
01:51 <madmax> i'm going
01:51 <madmax> to bed
01:51 <madmax> gnight
01:51 <Flex> to masterbait
01:51 <Monkey_arma> sticky is on
01:52 <Monkey_arma> cu
01:52 <Monkey_arma> oO
01:52 <Flex> let's go monkeh
01:52 <Monkey_arma> ok
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02:52 <Flex> #rating flex
02:52 <armabot> Flex: flex is 439th with a rating of 1588-1634 (from 1150-1850)
02:53 <Flex> lol i improved 5ranks
02:53 <Flex> 6^
02:53 <Flex> #rating |x|_flex
02:53 <armabot> Flex: |x|_flex is 529th with a rating of 1579-1680 (from 1150-1850)
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03:47 <luke-jr> Flex: cuz I pwn u?
03:48 <Flex> no you dont
03:50 <Flex> http://www.scifimoviepage.com/upcoming/previews/xfiles2.html
03:50 <Flex> 0mg 0mg x files 2 movie :D
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05:24 <spidey> http://s127.photobucket.com/albums/p144/im2muc4u/?action=view&current=CIMG0361.flv
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05:57 <Durka_> >.<
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05:59 <spidey> what dorka :D
06:04 <Durka> -.-
06:08 <ct|kyle> dur
06:09 <ct|kyle> Durka:
06:09 <ct|kyle> .si durka
06:09 <ct|kyle> #si durka
06:09 <armabot> ct|kyle: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “durka” at the moment, sorry.
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06:25 <Durka> oi
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08:45 <deja_vu> good morning fellow tronners :)
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15:57 <z-man-work> negative rubber FTW!
15:57 <MrBougo> wtf
15:57 <MrBougo> how does that even work
15:58 <Flex> it doesn't :p
15:59 <wrtlprnft> it does
15:59 <wrtlprnft> kills everyone
16:05 <noob13> z-man-work: any idea what that error was about yesterday?
16:06 <noob13> was it caused by the 0 rubber?
16:06 <noob13> all seemed to work fine if rubber was >0
16:06 <z-man-work> Dunno, I'm running bugfarm on 0 rubber right now with no problems so far
16:07 <noob13> hm..we're running sty patched server. might be the reason?
16:08 <Flex> when we changed x sumo to 0 rubber, it went all crazy and killed the server
16:08 <Flex> i think it's a setting conflicting with the 0 rubber
16:09 <Flex> z-man-work, gotta try it with afew people
16:09 <z-man-work> Caught it just now.
16:15 <wrtlprnft> no experiments on poor animals!
16:16 <wrtlprnft> bugs have lives, too
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16:22 <z-man-work> No worries, it will live on in svn history.
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17:12 <epsy> z-man-work, is the feature lock effective ? :)
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17:13 <z-man-work> Only when another Triumvir stomps it.
17:13 <z-man-work> What are you up to?
17:14 <epsy> z-man-work, ignoring locked teams from team imbalance
17:14 <z-man-work> Thats a bugfix, I'd say.
17:14 <epsy> heh
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17:32 <Flex> #ping
17:32 <armabot> pong
17:34 <joda_bot> #pang
17:34 <joda_bot> aw
17:34 <Flex> #finger
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18:09 <epsy> #ping
18:09 <armabot> pong
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18:21 <Nyx> hello
18:22 <epsy> hi
18:22 <Nyx> i am wondering how to record on a mac.
18:22 <Nyx> I am running arma
18:23 <Nyx> i read the wiki article.
18:23 <Nyx> but still have no idea where to go, or what the help application is that it suggests i open.
18:23 <Nyx> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Debug_Recording
18:24 <Nyx> excuse me, i am running arma
18:24 <Nyx> not arma
18:25 <Nyx> sorry, i will be back shortly
18:28 <mkzelda> I'm sorry to have to tell you guys this but I will be back too
18:28 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8399 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tron/ (gCycle.cpp gWall.cpp): Moved emergency checkpoints in wall datastructure to a place where they'll hopefully cause less spam.
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19:04 <noob13> #hello
19:04 <armabot> Hello noob13 :) Quote #37: "Out of the whole multitude of prudent men in the world, the great majority are so from timidity. --Clausewitz" (added by Lucifer_arma at 12:40 PM, December 09, 2006)
19:07 <epsy> z-man-work, also, what do we do with the "\1 was smitten by an administrator" and the /invite message, you know, they don't appear in white
19:09 <z-man-work> Dunno. Do they get filtered names as arguments?
19:10 <epsy> yes, at least i think so
19:10 <epsy> just use 0xRESETT in the translations?
19:14 <z-man-work> Yep. And in the original, in case it's not there yet.
19:16 <wrtlprnft> z-man-work: i wondered, why isn't there a tColorString::ColoredString equivalent for 0xRESETT?
19:16 <wrtlprnft> maybe the same name without arguments
19:16 <wrtlprnft> instead of using white all over the place
19:17 <z-man-work> Certainly wouldn't hurt.
19:17 <wrtlprnft> when is out i'll do it on the trunk
19:17 <wrtlprnft> then we can always spontaneously color the console in any color we want
19:17 <wrtlprnft> (→ cockpit)
19:17 <wrtlprnft> maybe it actually qualifies for already, it's a bugfix :-)
19:18 <z-man-work> Dunno, the whole color system as it is is broken by design.
19:18 <wrtlprnft> yeah
19:18 <z-man-work> Colors and other attributes would need to be managed by a stack.
19:18 <wrtlprnft> but that's a trunk thing
19:18 <z-man-work> so you can say "this in red: bla bla, and now back to the previous color, please"
19:19 <z-man-work> Definitely trunk material, yes.
19:23 <wrtlprnft> also, having a function for 0xRESETT is a first step towards a stack-based system
19:23 <wrtlprnft> it could be a “pop stack” command later
19:24 <wrtlprnft> and the other color code function automatically push
19:24 <wrtlprnft> i think this would work in a great lot of places
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20:01 <MrBougo> o:
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20:03 <epsy> wrtlprnft, you here?
20:03 <hoax> epsy you the f**k was that lil nazi
20:03 <epsy> *who ?
20:03 <hoax> lol what was he saying
20:04 <epsy> crap
20:04 <epsy> you can go café, he's currently restarting his modem
20:04 <hoax> ip him, I hope he's not a regular player -.-
20:05 <epsy>
20:05 <epsy> that was his last ip
20:05 <epsy> hoax, it's far from being the first time
20:05 <hoax> find out who it is
20:05 <epsy> an idiot
20:07 <noob7> a german IP, Telecom user
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20:08 <hoax> he sucks at tron aswell :D
20:11 <noob7> when adding help topics via "/admin add_help_topic topic description text" it seems everything after the first word of "text" is lost? Oo
20:11 <noob7> ah quotes! dang
20:17 <wrtlprnft> noob7: ;-)
20:17 <wrtlprnft> epsy: i can't just block an entire class A network
20:17 <wrtlprnft> just hope he gets tired of it
20:26 <Nyx> hello
20:27 <epsy> wrtlprnft, indeed, but i think he wont get bored so fast :/
20:27 <Nyx> Would some one mind helping me out
20:29 <wrtlprnft> Nyx: can't if you don't say what your problem is
20:29 <wrtlprnft> epsy: well, it's the only weapon we have
20:29 <Nyx> people usually respond with confirmination that they will help me
20:29 <Nyx> but anyways
20:29 <wrtlprnft> you practically live in café
20:29 <epsy> Nyx, wait for a mac user is the only thing you can do, sorry
20:30 <Nyx> I read the debug recording article http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Debug_Recording
20:30 <wrtlprnft> i can't guarantee i can help you
20:30 <Nyx> but cant find out how to record on a mac
20:30 <Nyx> "Use the helper application included with the game to start or playback"
20:30 <epsy> wrtlprnft, http://www.db.ripe.net/whois?form_type=simple&full_query_string=&searchtext=
20:30 <Nyx> No idea what the helper app is. I ave arma
20:30 <Nyx> have*
20:31 <wrtlprnft> Nyx: it should always use if you use osX's terminal program
20:31 <epsy> wrtlprnft, there's an Absue contact section, if you are up for that
20:31 <wrtlprnft> /path/to/armagetronad/armagetronad --record /path/to/some/file/you/want/to/record/to.aarec.txt
20:31 <Nyx> i dont understand
20:31 <Nyx> it should always use?
20:31 <Nyx> The arma app should use the terminal program?
20:31 <wrtlprnft> no
20:32 <wrtlprnft> the regular app is always able to do a recording
20:32 <wrtlprnft> but it needs to be called in a special way
20:32 <Nyx> ok,
20:32 <wrtlprnft> the windows installer installs a link to the program that calls it with the right arguments to record
20:32 <Nyx> through the terminal program?
20:33 <Nyx> yes, i have noticed that before in the start menu
20:33 <wrtlprnft> i have no clue if there's a GUI way to record on macos
20:34 <Nyx> excuse my ignorance, whats a GUI?
20:35 <wrtlprnft> graphical user interface
20:35 <wrtlprnft> the kind of stuff you point and click to
20:35 <Nyx> user friendly
20:35 <wrtlprnft> epsy: that abuse address doesn't seem to be intended for that kind of abuse
20:35 <epsy> a GUI isn't always user friendly :)
20:35 <Nyx> whats the most common way?
20:36 <Nyx> i have terminal open if it has something to do with that
20:36 <wrtlprnft> well
20:36 <epsy> wrtlprnft, you prefer taking a lawyer? actually what he says is enough to get him to jail you know
20:36 <wrtlprnft> do you know the path of your armagetronad binary?
20:36 <wrtlprnft> epsy: have fun finding proof
20:37 <Nyx> hmm, no sorry
20:37 <wrtlprnft> well, IIRC, to install something on a mac you open the .dmg file and drag something from there to some location
20:37 <wrtlprnft> where did you drag it to? :D
20:37 <epsy> wrtlprnft, that was one of my points
20:38 <Nyx> applications most likely
20:39 <epsy> wrtlprnft, there are 'other' <option>s on that form :-P
20:39 <wrtlprnft> epsy: feel free to submit some log excerpts
20:39 <wrtlprnft> but don't expect too much of it
20:40 <wrtlprnft> Nyx: i don't regularily use a mac, sorry. Maybe you should really wait for a mac guy
20:40 <wrtlprnft> where's durka when you need him?
20:40 <Nyx> the arma mac versions are logged under ur name =P
20:40 <Nyx> but anyways, I have to go. But I will be around later
20:41 <Nyx> thanks for your help
20:41 <epsy> (wrtlprnft, btw, your mysqld seems to have died)
20:41 <wrtlprnft> epsy: by the way, from what he sais i'd age him at 12–16. Can't really harm him, at least in Germany
20:41 <wrtlprnft> Nyx: err, they are?!
20:41 <Nyx> last i checked, yes
20:41 <epsy> wrtlprnft, damned, france FTW
20:42 <epsy> at 14 you can get in jail
20:42 <wrtlprnft> epsy: err, i restarted it, but i think it ran fine
20:42 <wrtlprnft> epsy: well, in germany, too
20:42 <epsy> #lastseen epsy
20:42 <wrtlprnft> but only for really serious offences
20:42 <wrtlprnft> like murder
20:42 <armabot> epsy: ¦×¦epsy has last been seen on Fortress Café 5 minutes ago.
20:42 <Nyx> not any more i guess, use to say packager : wrtlprnft
20:42 <Nyx> bye
20:42 <wrtlprnft> cya
20:43 <wrtlprnft> epsy: by the way, his German is quite broken
20:43 <epsy> somewhat noticed
20:43 <wrtlprnft> 1612743 [5] Izual: morgen ist die zahl weg
20:43 <wrtlprnft> ?!
20:43 <wrtlprnft> i don't have to understand that, do i
20:44 <wrtlprnft> omg, how often did you silence him?
20:44 <wrtlprnft> restarting a modem takes more time for him than for you to ban him for a couple of weeks
20:44 <epsy> heh
20:45 <wrtlprnft> epsy: ok, line 1612801 of the logs IS extreme.
20:45 <wrtlprnft> i'm not copy and pasting that in here
20:45 <epsy> i dont usually vim files that big
20:46 <wrtlprnft> yeah, vim tends to get slow opening them
20:46 <wrtlprnft> maybe i should add some sort of log rotation
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20:46 <wrtlprnft> torres: << "hi there :-)"
20:46 <torres> hi there :-)
20:47 <wrtlprnft> epsy: i just hate dealing with the borders between two such files
20:47 <epsy> heh yeah
20:48 <wrtlprnft> well, anyways. If you silence someone for saying unacceptable stuff and they instantly rejoin feel free to ban them
20:48 <wrtlprnft> they should only build modems that break down if you restart them too often
20:49 <pippijn> -rwxr-xr-x 1 pippijn pippijn  46M 2008-04-08 20:48 run*
20:49 <pippijn> -rw------- 1 pippijn pippijn 187M 2008-04-08 20:43 run.s
20:49 <pippijn> large program..
20:49 <epsy> i got to communicate with him few hours earlier
20:50 <epsy> on the DS server, he got to come in like...5 mins after hoax started testing someone
20:50 <epsy> and of course started to fuck up the game
20:50 <wrtlprnft> 1612787 [5] Izual: was bessres haste ja wohl nicht zu tun ********?
20:50 <wrtlprnft> i was wondering the same about HIM
20:50 <epsy> wait..when is that from?
20:50 <wrtlprnft> when you were repeatedly silencing and suspending him?
20:51 <epsy> LOL
20:51 <wrtlprnft> s/him/it
20:51 <epsy> i asked him that in the DS serv
20:51 <epsy> well
20:51 <wrtlprnft> let me guess
20:51 <wrtlprnft> no reasonable response
20:51 <epsy> in something anyone could understand
20:51 <epsy> no, indeed
20:51 <wrtlprnft> i'd love to know how such idiots tick
20:51 <epsy> he just insulted me being a nazi, etc etc
20:52 <epsy> but i got few answers from him
20:52 <wrtlprnft> i thought HE was the nazi
20:52 <epsy> nothing very interesting
20:52 <epsy> he also said he was a communist lol
20:52 <wrtlprnft> clearly not yet 18
20:52 <wrtlprnft> or braindead
20:53 <epsy> communism is not bad in itself, it's just it's kind of fun
20:53 <epsy> that he thinks being one
20:53 <wrtlprnft> communism just tends not to work :-P
20:54 <epsy> yeah :/
20:54 <epsy> it just takes a few people to ruin everything
20:54 <wrtlprnft> P_failure ~ n_people ^ 2
20:55 <wrtlprnft> err, nvm
20:55 <wrtlprnft> that equation can't work
20:56 <wrtlprnft> maybe 1 - <some factor>/n_people
20:57 <epsy> #last --with bazaar
20:57 <armabot> epsy: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 1787 messages.
20:58 <epsy> *sigh*
20:58 <wrtlprnft> what are you looking for?
21:01 <epsy> a commit message from bazaarmagetron
21:03 <wrtlprnft> wrtlprnft: meh, always pull before you ci
21:03 <wrtlprnft> that's the last one…
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21:04 <epsy> on bzr or on svn?
21:06 <epsy> or was that a message to me?
21:16 <wrtlprnft> that was the latest bazaarmagetron message
21:16 <wrtlprnft> Commit by z-man :: r8399 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tron/ (gCycle.cpp gWall.cpp): (link) 
21:16 <wrtlprnft> Moved emergency checkpoints in wall datastructure to a place where they'll hopefully cause less spam.
21:16 <wrtlprnft> but that was a direct SVN commit
21:17 <epsy> hmm..
21:20 <epsy> why am i the only one constantly having problems with bazaarmagetron :/
21:21 <epsy> *cough* now zman will steal my commit again *cough*
21:21 <cusco> maybe u ought to use svn
21:22 <epsy> bah
21:22 <cusco> beh
21:23 <wrtlprnft> epsy: just wait a bit
21:23 <epsy> "a bit" ?
21:23 <wrtlprnft> just two hours, maybe bazaarmagetron is just taking its time
21:23 <epsy> hm
21:24 <wrtlprnft> ;-)
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22:10 <Nyx> hello
22:11 <StickyNoob> yo
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22:11 <Nyx> Are you a mac user?
22:11 <StickyNoob> nope
22:11 <Flex> #rating flex
22:12 <armabot> Flex: flex is 436th with a rating of 1588-1634 (from 1150-1850)
22:12 <Flex> :D
22:12 <StickyNoob> but i have played with a toy truck, its about the same level
22:12 <Nyx> Right
22:12 <StickyNoob> whats up?
22:12 <Nyx> moi?
22:13 <StickyNoob> you
22:13 <Nyx> I am trying to figure out how to create a debug recording for playback on a mac.
22:13 <Nyx> The Wiki page suggests I use "the helper application included with the game"
22:14 <Nyx> but I have no idea where that is, or if I even got it
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22:16  * StickyNoob is reading the discussion on it from 2006 
22:17 <Nyx> resourceful ;)
22:17 <StickyNoob> speaking of which what happend to 2020
22:18 <Nyx> Uhh
22:18 <Nyx> like you have not seen him/her?
22:18 <StickyNoob> no, not for ages
22:19 <Nyx> i assume 2020 is still around, but I wouldn't know best
22:19 <StickyNoob> just that he si commenting alot on the discussion: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=6591&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=45
22:21 <Nyx> while I am at it, some questions about console commands
22:22 <Nyx> when having a tournament or such, with the latest released server
22:22 <Nyx> max_clients will not allow others to enter if there is that many already there?
22:22 <wrtlprnft> yeah
22:22 <Nyx> last time I remember setting that, players could still enter...
22:23 <wrtlprnft> maybe someone switched to splitscreen
22:23 <StickyNoob> if you want to be sure to lock it, set it less than the number of players already in
22:24 <Nyx> The left over player.. will be put to spectate or kicked?
22:24 <Nyx> or nothing?
22:24 <wrtlprnft> nothing
22:24 <Nyx> ok
22:24 <Nyx> is their any easy way to sort out teams?
22:24 <Nyx> so the right people are on team 1 and right people on team 2
22:25 <Nyx> or do they just have to manually request to be on their team?
22:26 <wrtlprnft> how is the server gonna know who should be on which team?
22:27 <Nyx> it wont, obviously =P I am just looking for advice, like could the admin move players to a team?
22:27 <Nyx> ive had the expierence where people would get stuck on the wrong team, had to leave and all that fiasco
22:27 <Nyx> or auto_team 0 ?
22:28 <wrtlprnft> well, if by “latest version” you mean a recent alpha build you can appoint team leaders who can /lock teams and /invite players
22:28 <Nyx> so the player will choose the correct team when they enter
22:28 <wrtlprnft> Nyx: the most important thing is to set team_max_imbalance to something big
22:28 <wrtlprnft> otherwise it can get chaotic
22:28 <Nyx> Ah, that sounds great. But no, i do not have the latest alpha version
22:29 <Nyx> just the dedicated off the downloads page
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22:31 <Nyx> would turning off team_balance_on_quit and team_balance_with_ais be important?
22:32 <wrtlprnft> well, team_balance_with_ais is off by default, and you'd better leave it off
22:33 <wrtlprnft> team_balance_on_quit doesn't have an effect if the team sizes don't differ by more than team_max_imbalance
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23:45 <Flex> [22:49:47] <@StickyNoob> the ability to go up to fundies and say jesus is gay, I banged the shit out of him
23:45 <Flex> [22:49:59] <@StickyNoob> would be sweet
23:45 <Flex> [22:50:08] <@StickyNoob> id take pictures and everything
23:46 <Flex> warning: sticky is a homo :D
23:46 <Flex> or possessed by the devil
23:49 <epsy> <wrtlprnft> Nyx: the most important thing is to set team_max_imbalance to something big
23:49 <epsy> it's over
23:49 <epsy> hm, well, when bazaarmagetron wakes up
23:51 <epsy> z-man, wanna steal one more of my commits?
23:52 -!- baddog [n=Liam@d58-108-11-78.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["Leaving"]
23:53 <z-man> anytime, epsy.
23:54 <epsy> branch 0.2.8 r799 got stuck :-(
23:54 <z-man> Yeah, some days ago :)
23:54  * z-man unsticks it
23:55  * epsy thinks we'd better either stay completely on svn either move completely on bzr
23:55 <epsy> now that's up to the tritumvir :P
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23:59 <z-man> Odd, how did they all get locked?

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