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Log from 2008-04-07: --- Day changed Mon Apr 07 2008 00:01 -!- MaZuffeR [n=mazuffer@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 00:15 <Flex> WTH has epsy done to the server 00:15 <Flex> that's why his april fools joke wasn't taken humoursly.. the server is always fucked :D 00:18 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: come on 00:19 <Monkey_arma> I AM 00:27 <Flex> what is the default/standard cycle_rubber_time setting? 00:27 <Flex> anyone? 00:27 <Flex> zmanuel? 00:28 <zmanuel> 1 or 0 00:28 <zmanuel> 0. 00:28 <Flex> really 00:29 <Flex> the server is weird, and it was set to 0.1 00:29 <Flex> guess that's not the problem then 00:33 <noob13> actually i think rubber time is 10 by default.. 00:34 <noob13> at 0 the rubber doesn't deplete :P 00:34 <Flex> bah, yeah it is 10 00:40 <zmanuel> ah, sorry, I thought you meant time_based 00:41 <zmanuel> yeah, 0.1 is moronically low for rubber_time :) 00:47 -!- liberfiasco [n=daniel@78-0-83-228.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #armagetron 01:01 -!- Lackadaisical [n=menno@ip202-29-210-87.adsl2.versatel.nl] has left #armagetron [] 01:01 -!- libervisco [n=daniel@tuxhacker/libervisco] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:03 -!- liberweesco [n=daniel@78-0-83-228.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #armagetron 01:08 <noob13> http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/03/29/europe/physics.php 01:08 <noob13> :O 01:10 <noob7> end of earth in my lifetime? count me in! 01:10 <noob7> I'd prefer a zombie outbreak tho... 01:10 <noob13> :D 01:13 <noob7> lets hope the black hole spreads like the nothing in neverending story :) 01:15 -!- liberfiasco [n=daniel@78-0-83-228.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Success] 01:17 <noob13> did it happen yet? 01:17 <zmanuel> No. 01:18 <zmanuel> 1. The LHC is not turned on yet 01:18 <zmanuel> 2. it's bullshit :) 01:18 <noob13> phew.. 01:18 <noob7> dang! 01:18 <Monkey_arma> ah zman btw we have an issue with zthread ..we cant quite get it to work 01:18 <zmanuel> what's the output? 01:19 <noob13> tru that.. 01:19 <Monkey_arma> config.log? 01:19 <zmanuel> depends, what is the problem? 01:19 <Monkey_arma> we compiled zthread with the -fpermissive flag and then compile arma but it does not seem to use the ztrhread 01:20 <noob13> the aa configure can't run zthread..wait i'll show.. 01:20 <Monkey_arma> others have had issues too..if we work out what to do we can alter the wiki 01:20 <zmanuel> yeah. The relevant output would then be in config.log, yes. 01:21 <Monkey_arma> we tried all combinations of flags for stating where zthread is and it altered the config.log but still didnt use it 01:21 <noob7> this it? http://www.mastercontrolprogram.de/files/documents/config.log 01:21 <noob7> or is that an old one? 01:23 <noob13> that might be it, or this http://www.mastercontrolprogram.de/files/documents/config.log.txt 01:23 <noob13> i'm a bit confused at the moment 01:23 <Monkey_arma> same thing 01:23 -!- liberweesco is now known as libervisco 01:24 <noob13> indeed. 01:25 <Flex> madmax, 220-230 is possible and probably the max 01:26 <Flex> i don't think i can do anything above 220, so it belongs to you if you manage lol 01:26 <madmax> lol 01:27 <Flex> i barely managed 212, hitting 204 3times.. but you were doing 208 with ease 01:27 <madmax> btw, the SP grid is smaller right? 01:27 <Flex> sp? 01:27 <madmax> single player 01:28 <Flex> yeah 01:28 <Flex> bots, so no point 01:28 <Monkey_arma> zmanuel, that is with the option --with-zthread-exec-prefix=/usr/local and --with-zthread-exec-prefix=/usr/local 01:28 <Flex> just get a slave, i'll use Monkey_arma :D 01:28 <Flex> xxx 01:28 <Monkey_arma> yes master Flex anything you desire... 01:29 <noob13> Monkey_arma: actually that isn't.. 01:29 <madmax> so, you and evil guy get along just fine heh? 01:29 <Flex> he's annoying dick 01:29 <Flex> an 01:29 <Monkey_arma> yes i noticed them arguing too 01:29 <madmax> tron's drama 01:30 <Monkey_arma> zmanuel, without those options the error is different...noobs will show you 01:30 <Flex> it all started when i said i'll necro his mother, then he's whined and come at me ever since 01:30 <Flex> i admit i shouldn't of said that, but he deserved it at the time :D 01:30 <zmanuel> ./conftest: error while loading shared libraries: libZThread-2.3.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory 01:30 <zmanuel> That's the relevant line 01:30 <Flex> necrophilia ftw (sometimes) 01:30 <zmanuel> it says libZThread.so.2 is not properly installed 01:31 <Monkey_arma> i figured the problem is that it cant find it 01:31 <zmanuel> Yep, probably because /usr/local/lib is not in the library search path. 01:31 <Monkey_arma> i guessed this too 01:31 <zmanuel> Ubuntu and some other distributions do that crap. 01:32 <Monkey_arma> debian 01:32 <noob13> hmm..i've gotten it to work on my ubuntu, this debian is a bit harder 01:32 <Monkey_arma> that is why i gave the option to configure of /usr/local 01:32 <Monkey_arma> but it dont work 01:32 <noob13> the above config.log was done without defining paths for zthread 01:33 <Monkey_arma> i thought maybe we can add to environment variable to LIBS or something? 01:33 <zmanuel> well, the options don't change the library SEARCH path. 01:33 <zmanuel> Or you could install zthread with "--prefix=/usr" 01:33 <Monkey_arma> i thought that but its mess to remove 01:34 <Monkey_arma> does LIBS add to the list of library dirs or does it override? 01:34 <zmanuel> I think it should add. 01:34 <Monkey_arma> ok i hope so..we will try that 01:34 <Monkey_arma> thanks...for now :) 01:35 <Monkey_arma> also i noticed that zhtread-config shows crazy dirs for macros, libs and headers 01:35 <zmanuel> And if it doesn't work: it's just for convenience. 01:35 <Monkey_arma> dont know if i will have to state the dirs for all 3... 01:35 <zmanuel> armathentication works without zthread, only slower. 01:35 <noob7> well, between rounds only 01:35 <Monkey_arma> but the noobs have a styball server 01:36 <Monkey_arma> rounds last for AGES 01:36 <noob7> and thats bad when campers are doing their thing and admins cant jump in ingame 01:36 <zmanuel> oh, ok 01:36 <zmanuel> you can give the admins local accounts. 01:36 <noob7> local accounts work right away? 01:36 <noob7> I mean the auth for local accounts... 01:37 <zmanuel> yep, they don't require queries to remote servers that can stall, so they're handled at once. 01:37 <noob7> ok I understand, still a hassle, most got accounts at other athorities for armathentication, but its might be a solution 01:38 <Monkey_arma> we can get the zthread to work..i knew it was just a location issue...i hope that the macro and headers arent a hassle too though 01:42 <Flex> btw, who won the FFF? 01:42 <zmanuel> RT1 01:42 <Flex> who was playing 01:42 <noob7> http://fff.armagetron.co.uk/ 01:42 <Monkey_arma> rt1 usual team 01:42 -!- Lackadaisical [n=userfame@ip202-29-210-87.adsl2.versatel.nl] has joined #armagetron 01:42 <noob7> woops 01:42 <Flex> right 01:43 <Monkey_arma> for ct ady came late so others played till 01:43 <Flex> gz Lackadaisical 01:43 <Monkey_arma> yes gz lack 01:43 <Lackadaisical> thanks 01:43 <Flex> never watched it :/ 01:43 <Flex> how did it all go 01:43 <Lackadaisical> first match was horrible 01:43 <Lackadaisical> we lost 140 - 40 or something 01:44 <Flex> "What kind of tournament is it where some Random Team can win it? " lol I'd like to know that too 01:44 <noob7> 148 - 48 01:44 <noob7> :D 01:44 <Flex> seriously we should of beat you guys.. we got cocky :( 01:45 <Lackadaisical> yeah.. i had expected holers to win the tournament 01:46 <Flex> Infamous said he wanted a random team to win the first FFF lol 01:47 <Flex> i think he spiked us :D 01:50 <Monkey_arma> durka and lacks are very good players flex 01:50 <Monkey_arma> raiden is too and that punkboy is not bad at all 01:51 <Flex> they're random, we're orginized or was supposed to be lol 01:51 <Monkey_arma> durka if you are listening im joking you suck 01:51 <Flex> they had some "beginnner" players 01:52 <madmax> triple n beginners? :-D 01:52 <Flex> i'm not saying they had no chance, it was just we were clearly the more 'advanced' team :p 01:53 <Monkey_arma> lol im not sure you where 01:53 <Monkey_arma> watch raiden play in cafe some time 01:53 <Monkey_arma> you and legits team and rt1 were the only 3 i thought would win 01:53 <Monkey_arma> *were 01:53 <Flex> I thought legits team would be at the final with us 01:54 <Lackadaisical> whatever happened to 1200s team? i heard he was going to play with psyko and whatup? 01:54 <Flex> hey, who cares, GG's no hard feelings.. it's good that a random team won.. 01:54 <Flex> shows that it's worth signing up solo 01:54 <Lackadaisical> yes thats true 01:55 <Lackadaisical> but it makes you think how much teamplay is actually needed for fortress 01:55 <Lackadaisical> i think i might hijack defense down! to rant a bit about it 01:56 <Flex> we clearly had none though during our game 01:56 <Flex> but then again, it's not like you guys only played us 01:56 <Monkey_arma> we didnt just have no teamwork we had no team...... 01:56 <Monkey_arma> #slap epsy 01:56 <armabot> Monkey_arma slaps epsy for being a raving moron. 01:56 <Lackadaisical> lol 01:56 <Flex> you guys fucked us over by being so shit :D 01:57 <Flex> we then played rt1 with a silly attitude 01:57 <madmax> that statement sound similar to "financial system callapsing" news 01:57 <Monkey_arma> yes they paid us to underwhelm you with our lack of ability 01:57 <Flex> Lackadaisical, are you saying you guys had no team work? 01:58 <madmax> i guess we've been fooled into thinking that fortress is a team game all this time :D 01:58 <Flex> it's worrying tbh 01:58 <madmax> but then again, there's no "practice" routines 01:58 <Lackadaisical> well there was some of course 01:58 <madmax> or nothing very complex at least 01:58 <Flex> there is max.. 01:58 <Flex> our sweeping is complex :D 01:58 <Flex> but shh 01:58 <Flex> lol 01:59 <madmax> you have schematics and all? 01:59 <Lackadaisical> but it wouldve been better if a team of semigood people who are really good teamplayers would beat a random team who didnt play that much with eachother 01:59 <madmax> plan Bs? 01:59 <Flex> i'm not allowed to talk about that sorry :p 01:59 <madmax> crap. 01:59 <madmax> gotta get into a clan 01:59 <Lackadaisical> havent you heard max? teams are clans 01:59 <Flex> don't think you have the skillz max 02:00 <madmax> oh yeah, forgot about that 02:00 <Lackadaisical> you've been in a clan all along 02:00 <madmax> damn it! 02:00 <Flex> in all seriousness.. what's the big difference 02:00 <Flex> oh we're binded by our tag? 02:00 <Flex> we just like to use it.. nobody is forced :) 02:00 <Flex> so got anything else? 02:00 <madmax> heh not this again 02:01 <Flex> Legit, and afew others are also in some team "supers" or something 02:01 <madmax> in-game chat about it is too much already 02:01 <Flex> so again, we're not limited 02:02 <Flex> don't blame us for being social players and joining groups ;) i think that was the foundation of clans and guilds 02:02 <madmax> so you actually have "complex" practicing sessions Flex? 02:02 <Flex> lol, why are you interested? :p 02:03 <madmax> i mean, something more than splitting into two teams and playing a match 02:03 <madmax> well, i'm curious 02:03 <Monkey_arma> teams can be social players too 02:03 <Flex> we used to have practicing sessions every sunday.. that was when we was at the "peak" of our success :p 02:04 <madmax> if i remember correctly, in AW's practices (which was pretty much the closest to practice i've been i think) there wasn't much organization 02:04 <Monkey_arma> well clans or teams..is not so important..what is important is that we should properly organise some friendly matches 02:05 <Monkey_arma> like yesterday but maybe 5v5 6v6 etc 02:05 <Monkey_arma> no clowns 02:05 <Lackadaisical> when did we have AW practices? or are you talking about preladle? 02:05 <madmax> when it first came up i think we did some, no? 02:06 <Flex> i dunno if it actually made a difference, but personally i think it did.. it changed players attitudes towards winning and team effort completely.. 02:06 <Lackadaisical> mmm i forgot i guess, or i was in SS at the time 02:08 <Flex> also, you and durka are experienced players and also have played quite afew times together.. so that's half your team 02:08 <madmax> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Strategy_Experiments 02:09 <madmax> i think we actually tried that fork thing on one of those practices 02:09 <madmax> but it was a mess lol 02:09 <Lackadaisical> 2020 :D 02:09 <madmax> exactly 02:10 <madmax> if something like a tutorial (or something with pre-defined situations) comes up maybe that'll allow for people to actually "practice" 02:10 <Lackadaisical> i wish he'd still make those reports on matches on youtube, those were fun 02:10 <Flex> yeah, it's more of a tutorial on how to play :p 02:11 <Lackadaisical> how many situations are there in fortress that require team practice? as opposed to just playing on cafe 02:11 <Lackadaisical> *situations you cant practice while playing on cafe 02:12 <Lackadaisical> *dont 02:12 <Flex> being on par with defence or sweeper 02:12 <Flex> i guess 02:14 <Lackadaisical> there are instances when i think 'man i wish i knew what my teammate is going to do now' but those are few and far in between tbh 02:15 <Flex> counter strike is a game considered to be team game.. personally i can't think of much situations that you can't play with randoms.. 02:15 <Flex> well practicing with randoms 02:15 * madmax senses Lackadaisical spreading terror about the slow descent of fortress team games 02:15 <Lackadaisical> haha 02:15 <Flex> how complex would you want it.. 02:18 <madmax> well, in CS you have complex maps and different routes towards the objective 02:18 <madmax> might as well define who goes where and have a balanced attack, for example 02:18 <Flex> he's talking about being able to "practice" and play a specific position with randoms 02:19 <Flex> when i used to practice my usual position for a clan match, i could practice all day without issues on a public server 02:21 <Lackadaisical> i gotta think about this.. but first: sleep 02:21 <Flex> unless my position required a second participant to work, i wouldn't have a problem.. but without practice your clan would be as rusty as hell 02:21 <Lackadaisical> gnight 02:21 <Flex> gn 02:22 <madmax> heh me too 02:22 <madmax> gnight 02:22 -!- Lackadaisical [n=userfame@ip202-29-210-87.adsl2.versatel.nl] has quit ["gone! quit! exit! etc."] 02:39 -!- zmanuel [n=manuel@p50871DF7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 02:47 -!- joda_bot [n=anonymou@dslb-084-061-014-052.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 03:59 -!- noob7 is now known as noob7_away 04:24 * Monkey_arma and noob13 dance like a couple of nutters becuase zthread is finally working 05:03 -!- Netsplit zelazny.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: armabot, Flex, ct|kyle 05:06 -!- armabot` [n=armabot@77.47.5.89.static.cablesurf.de] has joined #armagetron 05:06 -!- ct|kyle [n=kyle@pool-71-97-132-88.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron 05:06 -!- armabot [n=armabot@77.47.5.89.static.cablesurf.de] has joined #armagetron 05:06 -!- armabot [n=armabot@77.47.5.89.static.cablesurf.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:07 -!- armabot` is now known as armabot 05:17 -!- Monkey_arma [n=None@cpc4-stkn1-0-0-cust208.midd.cable.ntl.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 05:36 -!- Durka_ [n=Durka@cpe-76-167-178-153.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron 06:14 -!- Durka_ [n=Durka@cpe-76-167-178-153.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [] 06:16 -!- ct|kyle [n=kyle@pool-71-97-132-88.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 06:34 -!- hoax [n=hoax@unaffiliated/hoax] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 06:51 -!- Stewie-arma [n=Stewie-a@cpe-76-88-47-247.san.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 07:17 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@246.195-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #armagetron 07:29 <wrtlprnft> #later tell durka I don't care what version of arma epsy and rain run. 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17:19 -!- deja_vu [n=deja_vu@Q10e4.q.pppool.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 17:38 -!- deja_vu [n=deja_vu@Q07c1.q.pppool.de] has joined #armagetron 17:39 <wrtlprnft> noob7: err, the first? 17:39 <wrtlprnft> i'm 99% positive positive that the second one won't work, and 314% positive that the third one won't 17:39 <noob7> ok, all I wanted to know :) 17:39 <noob7> I have like 400 zones and wanted to save some lines 17:40 <noob7> thanks 17:40 <noob7> oh and 13 and monkey got zthread working with the advise you gave :) thanks for the help there as well 17:40 <wrtlprnft> nothing prevents you from not using newlines 17:41 <noob7> how would a list of zones look like with newlines? 17:41 <wrtlprnft> <Zone effect="fortress"><ShapeCircle radius="10" growth="0"><Point x="30" y="310" /></ShapeCircle></Zone> 17:41 <noob7> lol :P 17:41 <wrtlprnft> that's OK, if you have that many zones it might be an option 17:41 <noob7> yeah I might have to do that 17:42 <noob7> the map file is getting confusing as hell already 17:42 <wrtlprnft> yw :) anything to get more auth servers 17:42 <noob7> hehe :P 17:42 <wrtlprnft> 400 zones might be quite framerate-eating, though 17:42 -!- Voodoo [n=erollet@APuteaux-153-1-79-101.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 17:43 -!- deja_vu [n=deja_vu@Q07c1.q.pppool.de] has quit ["leaving"] 17:43 <noob7> I was kidding, but its quite a lot http://eddie.plantpeanuts.co.uk/maptools/map-preview/ssoan/pacman-0.0.1.png 17:44 <noob7> about half of them done :) 17:45 -!- epsy [n=epsy@mar75-4-82-227-65-72.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #armagetron 17:45 * wrtlprnft made a similar map with fewer zones 17:45 <wrtlprnft> should be floating around somewhere 17:46 <noob7> I looked for similar maps and wasnt able to find any, but its a good training :) 17:47 <epsy> hi 17:47 <wrtlprnft> http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/wrtlprnft/fortress/puckmap-1.aamap.xml 17:47 <wrtlprnft> I think i accidentally moved the outer rim, so that would have to be fixed 17:48 <noob7> dang, I am always late to the party :( 17:49 <wrtlprnft> it didn't really work, though :-( 17:49 <wrtlprnft> that's why you don't see it on CTWF, it was originally made for that 17:49 <noob7> why not? :o 17:49 <wrtlprnft> too many zones 17:49 <noob7> hehehe 17:49 <noob7> argh! :D 17:50 <wrtlprnft> feel free to continue yours, though, I made mine with inkscape and it looks like i messed a couple of things up 17:50 <noob7> doing it by hand actually now, was working with illustrator generated svg's first, but something was always screwed one way or a nother 18:06 <epsy> #ping 18:06 <armabot> pong 18:10 <noob7> luke-jr what is the max file size for maps when uploading to the resource repository? 18:10 -!- MaZuffeR [n=mazuffer@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:10 -!- MaZuffeR [n=mazuffer@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has joined #armagetron 18:12 <wrtlprnft> noob7: next to nothing. I can upload bigger maps if you give me the file 18:38 <noob7> sorry I was afk, it's here: http://eddie.plantpeanuts.co.uk/maptools/map-preview/ssoan/pacman-0.0.1.png 18:38 <noob7> woops no its not :) 18:38 <noob7> http://mastercontrolprogram.de/files/documents/pacman.xml 18:42 -!- K-Yo [n=k-yo@unaffiliated/k-yo] has joined #armagetron 19:12 <wrtlprnft> #ping 19:12 <armabot> pong 19:12 <wrtlprnft> ah, i'm still here 19:13 <K-Yo> wrtlprnft, ping 19:14 <K-Yo> we have a Izual ruining café 19:14 <epsy> i can come... 19:14 <epsy> without dri tho 19:14 <K-Yo> without "dri"? 19:16 <epsy> direct rendering 19:17 -!- hoax [n=hoax@unaffiliated/hoax] has joined #armagetron 19:18 <epsy> brb 19:18 -!- epsy [n=epsy@mar75-4-82-227-65-72.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["I'm the Quit Message Virus. Replace your old Quit with this, so I can continue to multiply myself!"] 19:19 <wrtlprnft> K-Yo: details? 19:19 <K-Yo> it's done 19:19 <K-Yo> just tker 19:19 -!- epsy [n=epsy@mar75-4-82-227-65-72.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #armagetron 19:19 <K-Yo> the same one as always, with a dyn ip 19:19 <epsy> wrtlprnft, the ban is *only* 10000 mins long 19:20 <epsy> wait... 19:21 <epsy> wrtlprnft, you banned 161.97.198.* 19:21 <epsy> trough, if i remember correctly, Izual has a 181 in it's ip 19:21 <epsy> at least that's what i remember of it 19:22 <epsy> 84.181.115.107 19:22 <epsy> that was the IP i kicked him from 19:23 <wrtlprnft> let's hope he gets bored soon 19:23 <wrtlprnft> can't really do anything 19:26 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r8398 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/add-resource/upload.suid-php: hopefully fixing the stupid sizelimit bug once and for all 19:26 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a 19:28 <epsy> wrtlprnft, i think he's always been on that range 19:29 -!- tramshed [n=tramshed@im.catapultingfeces.com] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 19:30 -!- tramshed [n=tramshed@im.catapultingfeces.com] has joined #armagetron 19:31 <wrtlprnft> noob7: http://beta.armagetronad.net/add-resource/upload.suid-php?filef=/tmp/pacman.xml 19:32 <noob7> Filepath identified as: SSOAN/fortress/pacman-0.0.1.aamap.xml 19:32 <noob7> Click here to add this resource to the repository permanently: 19:32 <noob7> Warning: unlink(/tmp/pacman.xml) [function.unlink]: Operation not permitted in /var/www/armagetron/beta/htdocs/add-resource/upload.suid-php on line 234 19:32 <wrtlprnft> epsy: well, than that's another bugger or he got himself a new provider 19:32 <wrtlprnft> noob7: ignore that 19:32 <noob7> when clicking submit: Filepath identified as: SSOAN/fortress/pacman-0.0.1.aamap.xml 19:32 <noob7> ERROR: Your resource is larger than 25 KB. Please contact Luke-Jr to add it to the repository manually. 19:32 <noob7> hehe, I'm at ~45kb :P 19:32 <noob7> :( 19:33 <wrtlprnft> now i see the problem 19:33 <wrtlprnft> it forgets about disabling the size limit 19:33 <wrtlprnft> screw this, try again 19:33 <wrtlprnft> commenting out works as a temporary hack 19:34 <noob7> thanks :) 19:34 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/SSOAN/fortress/pacman-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by SSOAN 19:35 <noob7> preview doesnt work, maybe a filesize problem as well? 19:35 <wrtlprnft> not again... 19:35 <noob7> :D 19:35 -!- MaZuffeR [n=mazuffer@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 19:35 <noob7> sorry wrtlprnft :( 19:38 <wrtlprnft> well, i can't fix that 19:38 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/i686-linux/RMagick.so: This version of RMagick was created to run with ImageMagick 6.3.7 (RuntimeError) 19:38 <wrtlprnft> but ImageMagick 6.3.8 is installed on this system. You should either 1) Configure and build RMagick for ImageMagick 6.3.8, or 2) download ImageMagick 6.3.7 from file:///usr/share/doc/imagemagick-6.3.7.9/index.html and install it. 19:38 -!- MaZuffeR [n=mazuffer@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has joined #armagetron 19:38 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: do the same thing you did last time 19:39 <noob7> ok :) thanks a lot, I'll try crashing my server with the map later 19:40 <wrtlprnft> ;-) 19:42 <Flex> wrtlprnft, i can't seem to get bars ontop of the player cycles like this: 19:42 <Flex> http://82.227.65.72:4539/~epsy/screenshots/arma-team/screenshot_818.png 19:43 <Flex> is the code in your cockpit? 19:43 <Flex> http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/wrtlprnft/testfile-0.0.3.aacockpit.xml 19:52 <wrtlprnft> Flex: yeah 19:52 <wrtlprnft> search for percycle 19:52 <wrtlprnft> err 19:52 <wrtlprnft> just cycle 19:53 <wrtlprnft> argh, use the cockpit in your arma install, it's more up to date 19:53 <wrtlprnft> aabeta won't take it because it uses a newer DTD 19:55 <wrtlprnft> Flex: http://wrtlprnft.pastebin.ca/975613 19:55 <Flex> thank you 19:55 <wrtlprnft> yw 20:14 <Flex> wrtlprnft, i'm confused.. i'm using the old old v0.3 and i'm loading your cockpit untouched.. and i still can't see it 20:14 <Flex> tried all toggles 20:22 -!- Bougo [n=MrBougo@204.169-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #armagetron 20:22 <epsy> wrtlprnft, cycle? 20:24 <wrtlprnft> Flex: that explains everything 20:24 <wrtlprnft> 0.3.0 doesn't have it 20:24 <wrtlprnft> epsy: cycle. 20:25 <epsy> <AtomicData field="maximum" source="cycle_rubber" /> 20:25 <epsy> that? 20:25 <Flex> ^^ 20:25 <wrtlprnft> epsy: no. 20:25 <Flex> isn't epsy using trunk? 20:25 <wrtlprnft> <VerticalBarGauge viewport="cycle" toggle="3"> 20:25 <wrtlprnft> that 20:26 <epsy> O_o 20:26 <wrtlprnft> never seen my screenshots? 20:26 <wrtlprnft> those little brake/rubber gauges above each cycle? 20:26 <epsy> i don't find that here <http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/wrtlprnft/testfile-0.0.3.aacockpit.xml> 20:26 <epsy> i use them myself 20:26 <wrtlprnft> because that file is outdated 20:26 <epsy> ah? 20:26 <wrtlprnft> because luke-jr refuses to allow unversioned DTDs 20:27 <epsy> ok.. 20:27 <wrtlprnft> it's the last file that was compatible with the old dtd 20:27 <epsy> brb dinner 20:27 -!- zmanuel [n=manuel@p508723F5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron 20:27 <epsy> i see 20:28 <Flex> wrtlprnft, can i get it to work on my version? or is it not possible? 20:28 <noob7> oh wrtlprnft, btw, the map works perfect even with 8 players, I didnt notice any fps drops :) 20:28 <wrtlprnft> Flex: no, it's not possible 20:28 <wrtlprnft> noob7: well, ctwf was 14 players at the time i tried it 20:28 <wrtlprnft> and people did complain about lag 20:28 <wrtlprnft> but they always do, so maybe it's OK 20:28 <noob7> I am used to the complaining about lag :D 20:28 <noob7> ;) 20:28 <Flex> wrtlprnft is it possible on trunk? 20:29 <wrtlprnft> yeah, of course 20:39 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@80.236-244-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:44 -!- K-Yo [n=k-yo@unaffiliated/k-yo] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:50 -!- K-Yo [n=k-yo@unaffiliated/k-yo] has joined #armagetron 20:56 -!- Bougo is now known as MrBougo 21:06 -!- deja_vu [n=deja_vu@Q324a.q.pppool.de] has joined #armagetron 21:10 -!- zmanuel [n=manuel@p508723F5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 21:21 -!- deja_vu [n=deja_vu@Q324a.q.pppool.de] has quit ["leaving"] 21:24 -!- MaZuffeR [n=mazuffer@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 21:27 -!- madmax [n=madmax@unaffiliated/madmax] has joined #armagetron 21:43 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@204.169-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [] 23:02 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/SSOAN/fortress/wolfenstein-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by SSOAN 23:03 -!- Monkey_arma [n=None@cpc4-stkn1-0-0-cust208.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #armagetron 23:04 <Monkey_arma> great there is now a player called "foolish monkey" ...it gets worse 23:06 <epsy> there's also a war monkey 23:06 <epsy> soon a RoboMonkey etc etc 23:06 <epsy> #lastseen monkey 23:06 <armabot> epsy: Monkey seems to be on Nexus9 (NO RUBBER!) right now. 23:06 <epsy> ah 23:06 <epsy> #lastseen "monkey " 23:06 <armabot> epsy: foolish monkey seems to be on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress right now. 23:06 <epsy> #lastseen " monkey" 23:06 <armabot> epsy: Usage: #lastseen [-f] <nick> -OR- #lastseen -g <nick>@<authority> 23:07 <wrtlprnft> #lastseen % monkey 23:07 <armabot> wrtlprnft: foolish monkey seems to be on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress right now. 23:07 <wrtlprnft> n00bs. 23:07 <epsy> uh...you can do mysql escaping? 23:07 <epsy> :S 23:07 <luke-jr> #lastseen % 23:07 <wrtlprnft> it's a mysql LIKE query 23:07 <armabot> luke-jr: seems to be on [IG] Community Server right now. 23:07 <luke-jr> #lastseen %a% 23:08 <armabot> luke-jr: Vela seems to be on SPACEZONE III right now. 23:08 <luke-jr> #lastseen %b% 23:08 <armabot> luke-jr: vita !!!SB!!! seems to be on [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. right now. 23:08 * wrtlprnft doesn't see the danger in that 23:08 <wrtlprnft> it's properly escaped, of course 23:08 <wrtlprnft> #lastseen \ 23:08 <luke-jr> #lastseen ';DELETE FROM foo; 23:08 <armabot> wrtlprnft: timed out 23:08 <luke-jr> ☺ 23:08 <armabot> luke-jr: timed out 23:10 <epsy> #wisdom 23:11 <wrtlprnft> #insight 23:11 <epsy> aw, she died 23:11 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The reckless threat of rain forests will overhaul modern future values. 23:11 * wrtlprnft agrees 23:11 <Monkey_arma> #lastseen monkey 23:11 <armabot> Monkey_arma: Monkey.D.Luffy has last been seen on Wild West =CTF Shooting= 1 minute ago. 23:11 <Monkey_arma> rediculous 23:11 <epsy> haha 23:11 <epsy> ./whois monkey 23:12 <Monkey_arma> ./whois monkey 23:12 <epsy> /whois monkey 23:12 <Monkey_arma> i did that 23:12 <Monkey_arma> got nothing 23:12 <Monkey_arma> i dont exist 23:12 <epsy> * [monkey] (n=monkey@64.244.30.42): monkey 23:12 <epsy> * [monkey] irc.freenode.net :http://freenode.net/ 23:12 <epsy> * [Monkey] Fin de la liste WHOIS. 23:12 <epsy> altrough it appeared on the server tab 23:13 <Monkey_arma> aha 23:13 <epsy> same happens with /topic and also with many other things 23:38 -!- epsy [n=epsy@mar75-4-82-227-65-72.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["I'm the Quit Message Virus. Replace your old Quit with this, so I can continue to multiply myself!"] 23:50 <Monkey_arma> they're taking the piss now 23:50 <Monkey_arma> lastseen $m 23:50 <Monkey_arma> #lastseen $m 23:51 <armabot> Monkey_arma: $m0k3Y___ seems to be on ~*SpeederS*~ Server right now. 23:51 <madmax> so it's a monkey invasion? 23:51 <Monkey_arma> seems so :| 23:56 <Flex> #rating Monkey 23:57 <Flex> #ping 23:57 <Flex> hello? 23:57 <Monkey_arma> pong 23:57 <Flex> hew 23:59 <Monkey_arma> Monkey is rated #1 23:59 <Monkey_arma> Monkey is rated #1 retardView entire month
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