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Log from 2008-04-01:
--- Day changed Tue Apr 01 2008
00:00 <ender> seriously
00:00 <pippijn> http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/images/updated.png
00:02 <Monkey_arma> heh thats old
00:09 <ender> ugh whatever
00:09 <ender> im so impatient
00:12 <Monkey_arma> why wont it work?
00:13 <ender> not sure.... maybe my video card
00:13 <ender> bah im at work
00:13 <ender> dell
00:13 <ender> puke
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00:24 <+noob7> anyone here?
00:24 <Monkey_arma> yes me
00:24 <Monkey_arma> heh
00:25 <+noob7> aloha monkey
00:25 <Monkey_arma> disappointed?
00:25 <+noob7> no not at all
00:25 <Monkey_arma> aloha noob7
00:25 <+noob7> everybody likes monkeys
00:25 <pippijn> hi noob7
00:26 <hoax> heh i always thought 3d arma would be cool
00:26 <+noob7> hey pipijn, hoax
00:26 <Monkey_arma> #insult hoax
00:26 <hoax> 2 sides to the grid....try and rim then!
00:26 <armabot> hoax - You are nothing but a Microsoft-loving half-mouthful of swag-bellied snake.
00:26 <hoax> #kill noob!
00:26 <armabot> noob! will die on Tue Apr  1 00:31:19 2008 due to being stabbed in the eye by hoax
00:26 <+noob7> :o
00:26 <hoax> :D
00:26 <+noob7> thats only 1 min away
00:26 <+noob7> damnit
00:26 <+noob7> better drink my beer fast
00:26 <hoax> hehe
00:27 <hoax> whats the installer for the cube package actually installing
00:27 <+noob7> modified 0.3 beta?
00:27  * Monkey_arma is very worried about 3D tron...
00:27 <+noob7> why is that monkey?
00:28 <hoax> heh i cba to install a new ver to auth so 3d's gona wait :p
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00:29 <hoop_tron> helo
00:30 <hoop_tron> please how do I compile the last 2.8 alpha?
00:30 <+noob7> hey hoop
00:30 <hoop_tron> :)
00:30 <hoop_tron> there is no configure :(
00:31 <hoop_tron> README & co didn't help much
00:32 <Monkey_arma> have you seen this...the screenshots need bloody 3D glasses lmao
00:32 <Monkey_arma> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/arma/?min=635
00:33 <Monkey_arma> hoopster tell me how far you have got
00:34 <Monkey_arma> you probably have to run "bootstrap.sh" i had the same issue..the readme was not informative
00:34 <hoop_tron> I can't run bootstrap: what I'm missing?
00:35 <hoop_tron> I've downloaded the alpha20080308
00:36 <hoop_tron> I just don't know if bootstrap should come with the source, or it is a shell built-in?
00:36 <Monkey_arma> what did you use to download it?
00:37 <hoop_tron> a click X)
00:37 <Monkey_arma> :)
00:37 <hoop_tron> beta.armagetronad.net
00:37 <hoop_tron> I want to try begfarm cubed!
00:37 <hoop_tron> *bug
00:38 <Monkey_arma> hoop lots of people cant get it to work...but i think that in your case your problem is earlier on maybe
00:38 <hoop_tron> do you know what bootstrap is exactly?
00:38 <Monkey_arma> yes it creates the configure file and hence makefile
00:39 <Monkey_arma> you will need to download some tools
00:39 <Monkey_arma> from your distro
00:39 <Monkey_arma> automake and  autoconf
00:39 <hoop_tron> I have them
00:40 <hoop_tron> ./bootstrap.sh -> file not found
00:40 <Monkey_arma> i will pm you to save us flooding
00:40 <hoop_tron> ty
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01:35 <Durka_> luke-jr HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
01:38 <Durka_> is anyone actually here?
01:38 <Durka_> cuz i'm rofling so hard
01:38 <+noob7> Oo
01:39 <Monkey_arma> yes some of us are here
01:39 <+noob7> are you smoking the meth again durka?
01:39 <Durka_> u see the bugfarm cubed server
01:39 <Durka_> i almost died laughing
01:40 <hoop_tron> Durka_: what source version do i need?
01:40 <Durka_> man hoop_tron , you're slow
01:40 <hoop_tron> :(
01:40 <ct|kyle> ya current trunk crashes on me :(
01:41 <ct|kyle> SVN trunk
01:41 <hoop_tron> 2.8_alpha20080308 is ok?
01:41 <Monkey_arma> i get it i get it hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahaahahahaha
01:42 <Durka_> ROFL
01:42 <hoop_tron> X|
01:42 <Durka_> i'll let u guys figure it out
01:42 <Monkey_arma> LOL  LOL LOL
01:42 <hoax> ??
01:42 <Monkey_arma> hahahaha
01:42 <Monkey_arma> omg
01:42 <Monkey_arma> awesome
01:42 <ct|kyle> LMFAO
01:43 <Durka_> u get it?
01:43 <Durka_> #serverinfo cube
01:43 <armabot> Durka_: Bugfarm Cubed: Players (9/16): dlh, joda.bot, k@work, klax, Lucifer (Lucifer@forums), luke-jr (luke@dashjr.org), marrow, philippeqc, Tank Program (Tank\ Program@forums)
01:43 <Durka_> o man
01:43 <Durka_> u guys are too much
01:43 <Durka_> ROFL
01:43 <ct|kyle> #serverinfo -v cube
01:44 <armabot> ct|kyle: Bugfarm Cubed ( running 0.9_alpha8389 unix dedicated, url: http://www.armagetronad.net, Description: “True 3D, Yeah Baby!“, Players (9/16): dlh, joda.bot, k@work, klax, Lucifer (Lucifer@forums), luke-jr (luke@dashjr.org), marrow, philippeqc, Tank Program (Tank\ Program@forums)
01:44 <Durka_>  0.9_alpha8389 unix dedicated
01:44 <Monkey_arma> durks i think they still dont get it
01:44 <ct|kyle> LOL
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01:50 <Monkey_arma> they still dont get it LOL
01:50 <ct|kyle> no i do It's not my fault it is a day early
01:50 <Monkey_arma> some still dont
01:52 <+noob7> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timezones
01:55  * hoop_tron got a fish in the ass
01:55 <ct|kyle> that is probably they best one that i've seen so far
01:56  * Monkey_arma welcomes hoop_tron  back to reality :)
01:56 <Monkey_arma> that was good it had me going for a while
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01:57 <Monkey_arma> i think hoax still dont get it
01:59 <Monkey_arma> i just told them in the sumo server and they  are moaning that it should be left 2D :)
02:06 <ct|kyle> LOL
02:06 <duudii> :P
02:07 <ct|kyle> cubes is so awesome though
02:07 <duudii> I love the new cubes version..
02:07 <ct|kyle> me too's
02:08 <hoop_tron> I've lost all matches X(
02:08 <Monkey_arma> #congratulate arma development team
02:08 <hoop_tron> they're to good
02:08 <Monkey_arma> at least they have fixed the glancing though now in this cube version
02:08 <ct|kyle> ya
02:08 <Durka_> booo
02:08 <Durka_> #serverinfo cube
02:08 <armabot> Durka_: Bugfarm Cubed: Players (9/16): joda.bot, k@work, klax, Lucifer (Lucifer@forums), marrow, philippeqc, Tank Program (Tank\ Program@forums), wrtlprnft |mbc| (wrtlprnft@forums), ¦×¦epsy (epsy@x)
02:09 <Durka_> epsy "is in there"
02:09 <Durka_> pft
02:09 <Durka_> makes it more realistic though ;) cuz everyone else "in there" doesn't actually play LOL
02:09 <Durka_> ha
02:10 <Durka_> they messed up
02:10 <Durka_> #serverinfo cube
02:10 <armabot> Durka_: Bugfarm Cubed: Players (8/16): joda.bot, k@work, klax, Lucifer (Lucifer@forums), philippeqc, Tank Program (Tank\ Program@forums), wrtlprnft |mbc| (wrtlprnft@forums), ¦×¦epsy (epsy@x)
02:10 <Durka_> ..
02:10 <Durka_> hm
02:10 <duudii> #serverscores cube
02:10 <Durka_> on the server browser it says Lucifer(wrtlprnft@forums)
02:10 <Durka_> hahaha
02:10 <armabot> duudii: Bugfarm Cubed (8/16): Something went wrong.
02:10 <Durka_> #help serverscores
02:10 <armabot> Durka_: (serverscores <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "web fetch [format concat http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/scores.php?name=[urlquote $*]]".
02:11 <Durka_> #help serverscores team
02:11 <armabot> Durka_: Error: There is no command "serverscores team".
02:11 <Durka_> er
02:11 <Durka_> #serverscores team
02:11 <armabot> Durka_: Wild West  =Team Sumo= (8/15):
02:11 <Durka_> o_O
02:11 <Monkey_arma> gotta love tron....
02:12 <ct|kyle> that cubes must be addicting with all the devels in there
02:12 <Monkey_arma> i think they are really testing it for bugs at the moment
02:12 <Durka_> the best is wrtl's screenshot
02:13 <Durka_> it doesn't even make sense rofl
02:13 <ct|kyle> lol
02:13 <Durka_> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/afd.png
02:13 <Durka_> afd gives it away
02:13 <Durka_> but look at the cycle's position
02:13 <Durka_> and then look at the mini map
02:13 <Durka_> I LOLd
02:14 <ct|kyle> no
02:14 <ct|kyle> +    // April fool's day edition!
02:14 <ct|kyle> that does
02:14 <Durka_> that too
02:14 <Durka_> and safa posting a thread about it rofl
02:14 <Durka_> safa noob
02:14 <ct|kyle> lol
02:14  * ct|kyle agrees
02:21 <Durka_> lol now it says joda.bot (epsy@x)
02:21 <Durka_> LOL
02:24 <Monkey_arma> remember though that many people have not yet seen the server so dont ruin it for them
02:24 <ct|kyle> LOL
02:24 <ct|kyle> ya
02:24 <ct|kyle> just tell then about it
02:31 <Durka_> http://www.durkadurkaland.com/viewtopic.php?p=44971#44971
02:33 <ct|kyle> nice one Durka_ it is just like cycles
02:33 <ct|kyle> cubes*
02:34 <hoop_tron> I cant read durka wtf!
02:34 <hoop_tron> XD
02:34 <Durka_> ?
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03:19 <hoax> hah dont get what
03:20 <hoax> its abit early for it anyways no
03:21 <Monkey_arma> i think actually it started at the correct time...anyways
03:22 <hoax> heh theres at least one flaw in it ;)
03:22 <Monkey_arma> theres several ye
03:22 <hoax> still tho
03:22 <hoax> LOL
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04:42 <Durka_> :P
04:45 <ct|kyle> Durka_: soo cool
04:45 <Durka_> ?
04:46 <ct|kyle> <Spawn	x="255"	y="50" z="o" xdir="0"	ydir="1" zdir="0"	/>
04:47 <Durka_> ha!
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05:02 <Durka_> o_O
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05:30 <ct|kyle> #bzr
05:30 <armabot> bzr co lp:armagetronad (bzr >= 1.0)
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05:48 <Durka_> Manta: ping!
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05:58 <baddog> hey, Durka, i think DurkaDurkaland.com has  been hacked
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05:58 <baddog> or is it april fools?
06:01 <ct|kyle> no it got hacked
06:01 <baddog> oh :/
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06:13 <Durka_> Manta: :DDD
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06:38 <hoax> #later tell Durka_ ضمير فشل!
06:38 <armabot> hoax: The operation succeeded.
06:39 <Monkey_arma> hi hoax ..you still up?
06:39 <hoax> jus going bed
06:39 <Monkey_arma> me too soon
06:39 <hoax> fuck its that time already
06:39 <Monkey_arma> yup
06:39 <hoax> bs man...bs
06:40 <Monkey_arma> tell me bout it
06:40 <hoax> aight cath u lter
06:40 <Monkey_arma> cu
06:40 <hoax> haha spandau ballet true is such a tune
06:40  * hoax looks for some kind of remix
06:41 <hoax> #night
06:41 <armabot> Good night hoax!
06:41 <Monkey_arma> #night hoax
06:41 <armabot> Good night Monkey_arma!
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06:53 <ct|kyle> .SI OI KYLE
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11:07 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/txt/5c2e548c0f1c8efe60a4df63d50b8a15.txt
11:09 <wrtlprnft> three operands are boring…
11:11 <pippijn> right
11:12 <pippijn> calculating one with 4 arguments
11:12 <pippijn> the output is 700K now
11:12 <wrtlprnft> 2 → (2 → (16))
11:12 <wrtlprnft> 2 → (2 → 16)
11:12 <wrtlprnft> every second step is useless :-(
11:12 <pippijn> I know :-\
11:12 <pippijn> but that's how it works
11:13 <pippijn> and 4 arguments make perl die
11:13 <wrtlprnft> R.I.P.
11:13 <pippijn> http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/up/interesting.txt
11:13 <pippijn> I don't actually think that is particularly interesting
11:14 <wrtlprnft> g2g, sorry
11:14 <pippijn> ok
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14:26 <Manta> #later tell Durka_ Goodmorning
14:26 <armabot> Manta: The operation succeeded.
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14:42 <luke-jr> Bugfarm cubed plz don't show me as auth'd
14:42  * luke-jr stabs the idiots emailing me for support
14:42 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: guru3 or whoever set it up
15:04 <spidey> http://www.opensourcesluts.com/
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15:21 <Flex> spidey, keep your porn to yourself ;)
15:27 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: lol.
15:27 <wrtlprnft> too bad you have an e-mail address as armathority
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16:06 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: well I didn't armathenticate, so please don't show me as logged in ☺
16:08 <luke-jr> btw, someone should make it actually show up on the internet list
16:09 <luke-jr> I guess by spoofing a minimum version of 0.2.7 or such
16:19 <wrtlprnft> ?
16:23 <noob13> hey... i've got a problem concerning zthread
16:23 <noob13> it installs fine, i think...
16:24 <noob13> i used CXXFLAGS=-fpermissive to configure, like i was told to do
16:24 <noob13> when running bootstrap, i get the following error..
16:25 <noob13> aclocal: configure.ac: 0: macro `AM_PATH_ZTHREAD' not found in library
16:25 <noob13> rm: cannot remove `aclocal.m4': No such file or directory
16:25 <noob13> aclocal: configure.ac: 0: macro `AM_PATH_ZTHREAD' not found in library
16:25 <noob13> rm: cannot remove `aclocal.m4': No such file or directory
16:25 <noob13> ops, pasted twice
16:25 <noob13> anyone have an idea what could be going on?
16:27 <wrtlprnft> uh, no clue?
16:27 <noob13> that is, i'm trying to install the sty patched version of AA
16:27 <noob13> no clue. argh..
16:27  * pippijn prefers using his own perl-based autoconf
16:27  * wrtlprnft wonders if it happens for him
16:27 <pippijn> for exactly that reason
16:28 <wrtlprnft> works for me.
16:29 <noob13> is there some special order in which i have to do things?
16:29 <wrtlprnft> /usr/share/aclocal/zthread.m4:34: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_ZTHREAD
16:29 <wrtlprnft> /usr/share/aclocal/zthread.m4:34:   run info '(automake)Extending aclocal'
16:29 <wrtlprnft> /usr/share/aclocal/zthread.m4:34:   or see http://sources.redhat.com/automake/automake.html#Extending-aclocal
16:29 <wrtlprnft> that's what i get
16:29 <wrtlprnft> but it runs through
16:30 <noob13> it worked on my ubuntu box as well, this server is running some other debian distro
16:30 <noob13> and doesn't seem to work so well
16:33 <mkzelda> I still get the ft_free error in configure.  How do i disable that obsolete check again? I have freetype, just the check fails.
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16:38 <wrtlprnft> mkzelda: err, old version?
16:38 <wrtlprnft> it's been checking for FT_Init_FreeType for ages
16:38 <wrtlprnft> but the check is in configure.ac
16:45 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: did someone shut down Cubed?
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17:00 <mkzelda> armagetronad-0.3.0-r1 in layman is old?
17:02 <luke-jr> as are all 0.3 releases
17:02 <mkzelda> ah
17:04 <mkzelda> so svn.sourceforge.net is old too?
17:04 <wrtlprnft> well, branches/0.3.0 is
17:04 <wrtlprnft> use trunk/
17:05 <mkzelda> i mean, the domain
17:05 <wrtlprnft> oh
17:06 <wrtlprnft> #svn
17:06 <armabot> svn co https://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad <dirname>(more information: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Working_with_SVN)
17:06 <wrtlprnft> that's a SF thing
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17:06 <mkzelda> k thats what i thought
17:06 <mkzelda> wiki behind
17:06 <mkzelda> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Working_with_SVN
17:06 <luke-jr> mkzelda: armagetronad-live
17:06 <luke-jr> ebuilds
17:06 <mkzelda> ah
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18:07 <spidey> http://www.wired.com/politics/security/news/2008/03/epilepsy
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18:29 <noob7> I am getting this error when trying to run bootstrap.sh in the 0.2.8-armagetronad-sty folder after installing zThread:
18:29 <noob7> vs166226:~/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty# ./bootstrap.sh
18:29 <noob7> Generating version...
18:29 <noob7> Running aclocal...
18:29 <noob7> aclocal: configure.ac: 0: macro `AM_PATH_ZTHREAD' not found in library
18:29 <noob7> rm: cannot remove `aclocal.m4': No such file or directory
18:29 <noob7> I have absolutely no clue what to do from here, anyone here able to help? :)
18:31  * wrtlprnft still has no clue about autoconf
18:32 <wrtlprnft> i just know how to add a new source file, that's all i really need
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18:32 <ct|kyle> #svn
18:32 <armabot> svn co https://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad <dirname>(more information: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Working_with_SVN)
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18:51 <noob7> monkey, were you able to help hoop yesterday night?
18:51 <ct|kyle> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=195868#195868
18:51 <ct|kyle> LOL @ safa
18:52 <Monkey_arma> noob7 help hoop to do what?
18:52 <noob7> bootstrap.sh problems
18:52 <Monkey_arma> :)
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19:10 <K-Yo> Does anyone fancy helping a noob patching his svn version of arma?
19:15 -!- Bougo [n=MrBougo@22.177-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #armagetron
19:15 <K-Yo> T.T
19:15 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@22.177-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Nick collision from services.]
19:15 -!- Bougo is now known as MrBougo
19:16 <epsy> MrBougo, lol tu sais ske g envie de faire ?
19:18 <K-Yo> m'aider :D?
19:18 <epsy> nn
19:18 <epsy> ouvrir une conv
19:19 <epsy> "jtaime bien tu sais"
19:19 <epsy> "poisson d'avril"
19:20 <MrBougo> à qui?
19:20 <MrBougo> à moi?
19:20 <MrBougo> vazy
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19:20 <epsy> a qqn que j'aime pas
19:20 <MrBougo> je déconnecte avant "poisson d'avril" et je t'envioe des fleurs
19:20 <MrBougo> envoie*
19:20 <epsy> hahaha
19:20 <MrBougo> et pan, du coup c'est toi qui regrettes
19:21 <epsy> c pa le genre de personne qui se jetterai au marchand de fleurs tu vois
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19:23 <K-Yo> T.T
19:23 <K-Yo> avec qui?
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19:24 <epsy> K-Yo, ?
19:24 <MrBougs> rawt
19:25 <MrBougs> rawr
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19:25 <K-Yo> oui?
19:25 -!- MrBougs is now known as MrBougo
19:25 <epsy> ok no go on with the ghost, dont forget a typo before the /
19:25 <epsy> aw
19:25 <K-Yo> what happened? o_O
19:25 <epsy> * K-Yo est parti (heinlein.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
19:26 <epsy> netsplit :-)
19:26 <K-Yo> tu verrai ca
19:26 <K-Yo> j'ai vu tt le monde qui est parti puis revenu sur le chan
19:26 <epsy> haha
19:26 <epsy> moi j'ai vu que hoax et toi
19:26 <epsy> (qui se sont cassés)
19:27 <K-Yo> * epsy est parti (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
19:27 <K-Yo> :P
19:27 <epsy> bon tiens jvais le faire
19:27 <K-Yo> * epsy (n=epsy@mar75-4-82-227-65-72.fbx.proxad.net) a rejoint #armagetron
19:28 <epsy> (2008-04-01 19:31:51) epsy: lut
19:28 <epsy> (2008-04-01 19:32:02) [i][b]- Kenny [/b] -[/i]: salut
19:28 <epsy> (2008-04-01 19:32:11) epsy: jtaime bien tu sais
19:28 <epsy> (2008-04-01 19:32:25) epsy: poisson d'avril
19:28 <epsy> reste à voir si elle répond après ce coup là XD
19:28 <K-Yo> "<epsy> bon tiens jvais le faire" ta blague à 2 balles? :P
19:28 <K-Yo> :P
19:28 <epsy> grillé
19:28 <epsy> :)
19:29 <K-Yo> il faut juste pas se trompé de conv, genre pas envoyer ca sur celle ou tu parle a ta copine ><
19:29 <K-Yo> tu sais cmt patcher arma depuis la version svn?
19:29 <epsy> ça tombe bien jen ai pas :D
19:30 <epsy> elle écrit...
19:30 <epsy> ptdr XD
19:30 <epsy> (2008-04-01 19:35:17) [i][b]- Kenny [/b] -[/i]: j'allais le dire
19:32 <epsy> et pidgin crashe...
19:32 <epsy> spa coroyable cte merde
19:33 <K-Yo> epsy, ah kyle va m'aider
19:33 <K-Yo> ;)
19:33 <epsy> bonne chance
19:35 <epsy> http://durkadurkaland.com/
19:35 <epsy> hahaha
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19:36 <K-Yo> was?
19:36 <K-Yo> lol @ drunka land
19:36 <epsy> click the link
19:36 <epsy> xD
19:37 <K-Yo> i saw
19:37 <K-Yo> :P
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19:39 <ct|kyle> Durka:
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19:39 <Durka> ct|kyle:
19:39 <K-Yo> Durka,
19:39 <epsy> Durka: u n00b
19:40 <K-Yo> boo
19:40 <epsy> why are you restoring DDL
19:40 <Durka> K-Yo:
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19:40 <K-Yo> make: *** [run] Erreur de segmentation (vidange mémoire)
19:40 <epsy> hah
19:41 <K-Yo> :'(
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19:44 <K-Yo> wrtlprnft, I have a bug with the cube patch, seems that emmy has the same on windows (i"m on ubuntu)
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19:46 <Durka> K-Yo: get a mac
19:46 <Durka> it works fine here
19:46 <epsy> dont listen to d0rka
19:46 <K-Yo> Durka, way too expensive
19:46 <epsy> he got n00bed
19:46 -!- Durka is now known as luke-jr_
19:47 <K-Yo> and why should it work better on a mac than on a PC?
19:47 <luke-jr_> K-Yo: RTFM!
19:47 -!- luke-jr_ is now known as Drka
19:47 <K-Yo> thaha
19:47 <K-Yo> haha
19:47 -!- epsy is now known as durka
19:47 <K-Yo> durka, Drka are noobs
19:47  * Drka can't spell
19:47 -!- durka is now known as epsy
19:47 <epsy> phew
19:48 -!- Drka is now known as Durka
19:48 <Durka> :O
19:49 <wrtlprnft> K-Yo: did you even look at the patch or do you just blindly apply every patch you see?
19:49 <K-Yo> I looked, it seemed empty enough to apply it blindly
19:49 <K-Yo> I trust your website ;)
19:50 <K-Yo> and (3rd reason) my comp can't be more fucked than he alredy is
19:50 <Monkey_arma> kyo when you get it sorted we will have a game
19:50 <epsy> K-Yo, su
19:50 <epsy> K-Yo, chown -R epsy:epsy /var
19:50 <epsy> ty
19:50 <K-Yo> and (4rth) i don't understand a shit at this stuff :P
19:51 <wrtlprnft> K-Yo: maybe really look at the line starting with + //
19:51 <epsy> not hard to understand a comment and a new line
19:51 <wrtlprnft> epsy: it's more, actually
19:51 <epsy> ? :|
19:51 <epsy> ah..
19:52 <epsy> you changed it !
19:53 <Ttech> 0.o
19:54 <wrtlprnft> Ttech: ?
19:56 <K-Yo> wrtlprnft, that sucks T.T
19:56 <K-Yo> I downloaded it yesterday
19:56 <K-Yo> I thought
19:56 <K-Yo> so I'll have to wait
19:56 <Durka> wrtlprnft: i love the server
19:57 <epsy> looks good, but i still prefer x sumo
19:57 <Flex> x sumo is fucked
19:57 <Flex> gg epsy
19:57 <Flex> you knob
19:57 <MrBougo> :o
19:57 <epsy> ?
19:58 <MrBougo> april fool
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20:04 <epsy> http://h4ck3d.imstealingyour.info/hacked.gif
20:04 <epsy> hackers usually don't create a sub-domain just for that :-)
20:05 <K-Yo> :P
20:11 <Monkey_arma> helloooooo everybody
20:12 <K-Yo> yo
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20:15 <MrBougo> lol wtf
20:15 <MrBougo> don't play wite me
20:15 <MrBougo> don't play blue me
20:15 <MrBougo> don't play jellow me
20:15 <MrBougo> don't play green me
20:15 <MrBougo> don't play red me
20:18 <Ttech> are you ok?
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20:18 <MrBougo> yes
20:18 <MrBougo> lol
20:18 <MrBougo> ?
20:18 -!- Ttech [n=ttech@fullcirclemagazine/developer/ttech] has joined #armagetron
20:18 <K-Yo> MrBougo, are you using drugs?
20:18 <MrBougo> no
20:19 <MrBougo> i clicked epsy's link
20:19 <MrBougo> and there's a fun misspelling
20:19 -!- aa_voodoo [n=aa_voodo@def92-6-82-230-4-2.fbx.proxad.net] has quit []
20:19 <K-Yo> I saw it HaxorZ write that way
20:19 <K-Yo> rL 1s
20:20 <Ttech> its called leet
20:20 <Ttech> #leet hello
20:20 <noob7> 43110
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20:21 <K-Yo> isn't leet only with letters?
20:21 <Ttech> no
20:21 <Ttech> l33t
20:21 <z-wt> 1337
20:21 <K-Yo> with numbers i meant
20:21 <K-Yo> yeah
20:21 <K-Yo> 1337
20:22 <z-wt> Łęęt h@><◊r
20:22 <Monkey_arma> fr1gg3n 1337 15 t3h l4ngu4g3 th4t 1 5p34k
20:22 <Monkey_arma> <========== h4x0rrrrrrr
20:23 <cusco> /exec -o figlet -f l4me what the fuck is this language for
20:23 <z-wt> Π@hhh :) Šurę y◊u @rę h@><◊r :P
20:23 <K-Yo> :P
20:23 <epsy> i wonder who the noob would be cracking his own site
20:23  * K-Yo points ar Drk
20:23 <epsy> b0rka
20:23 <epsy> oops sry, i just ate dinner
20:23 <Ttech> cusco,  what flf is that?
20:23 <K-Yo> ;)
20:24 <cusco> let me try
20:24 <cusco> wh4t th3 fvck !5 th!5 |4ngv4g3 f0r
20:24 <cusco> what the hell did I say?
20:24 <K-Yo> sh: figlet: not found
20:24 <K-Yo> <cusco> wh4t th3 fvck !5 th!5 |4ngv4g3 f0r
20:24 <cusco> #google for figlet
20:24 <armabot> cusco: Search took 0.26 seconds: FIGlet - hosted by PLiG: <http://www.figlet.org/>; FIGlet - hosted by PLiG: <http://www.figlet.org/contrib.html>; FIGlet: <http://ianchai.50megs.com/figlet.html>; figlet version 2.2.2 for Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard: <http://figlet.darwinports.com/>; Appendix B. Build logs: <http://netbsd.org/docs/pkgsrc/logs.html>; Figlet -fonts - Fonts for figlet: (2 more messages)
20:25 <K-Yo> I 4m 4 r341 |-|4x0rz
20:26 <Ttech> cusco,  what is the fls file
20:27 <Ttech> flf
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20:41 <cusco> figlet font
20:43 <Ttech> I know
20:43 <Ttech> which one?
20:43 <Ttech> I can't find it
20:43 <Ttech> figlet: l4me.flf: Unable to open font file
20:43 <Ttech> see?
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20:50 <cusco> Ttech: that is why I went to figlet website and downlaod teh EXTRA font files
20:50 <Ttech> o:P
20:50 <Ttech> heh
20:51 <cusco> and in my debian system I put them under /usr/share/figlet/
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20:56 <noob7> wrtlprnft, 4 lines need to be added to source.list, not just one :P
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21:01 <wrtlprnft> ?
21:04 <Monkey_arma> he means altered
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21:28 <K-Yo> hi zmanuel
21:29 -!- zmanuel is now known as z-man
21:29 <z-man> Hi, anything special?
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21:51 <K-Yo> nothing special no
21:51 <K-Yo> Ah yea
21:51 <K-Yo> something special
21:51 <K-Yo> today, i hurt my leg
21:51 <K-Yo> twhile fighting
21:51 <K-Yo> (some strange sumo)
21:51 <K-Yo> and it hurts badly now
21:52 <K-Yo> hum...
21:52 <K-Yo> actually no, nothing special
21:59 <epsy> entered blogosphere
21:59 <epsy> :þ
21:59 <epsy> but no, don't look
21:59 <epsy> updating wordpress :P
22:00 <noob7> what would you be blogging about epsy?
22:00 <epsy> random crap most probably
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22:02 <epsy> ah it just finished uploading
22:02 <epsy> noob7, http://epsy46.free.fr/
22:02 <epsy> let me re-enable antispam on it :þ
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22:24 <MrBougo> awww epsy
22:24 <MrBougo> nice colors
22:24 <epsy> haha
22:26 <epsy> MrBougo, better?
22:32 <wrtlprnft> ah, whatever
22:32 <wrtlprnft> yet another RSS feed
22:34 <MrBougo> epsy: it's f'n spring
22:34 <MrBougo> not summer
22:34 <MrBougo> nor Mars
22:35 <epsy> !«
22:35 <epsy> :«
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22:47 <noob7> mars you say? http://www.google.com/virgle/index.html
22:50 <ender> oh, well sign me up
22:58 <Monkey_arma> is there a command in linux that will let you switch to another kernel without booting?
22:58 <Flex> Kick some serious backgammon butt, yo.
22:59 <Flex> A multi-stage heavy lift rocket built using established solid and liquid propellant technology with solid boosters doubled for increased payload capability could start a burn for insertion into a lunar trajectory and then back toward Earth for final insertion into a modified Hohmann Transfer Orbit, increasing its final Earth-to-Mars transfer velocity through a periapsis delta-v burn performed at the closest lunar and subsequent Earth approach, with the 
23:00 <epsy> Monkey_arma, kexec ?
23:00 <epsy> Monkey_arma, not sure *at all* about it
23:00 <Monkey_arma> heh thx epsy i will just trash a server lol
23:00 <Monkey_arma> :)
23:01 <noob7> ya, we are taking mcp apart
23:01 <noob7> metaphirically speaking
23:01 <noob7> with an o even
23:02 <Monkey_arma> we are aiming for as much destruction as possible
23:03 <noob7> resulting in "hands on charges" for me
23:03 <Monkey_arma> :\
23:04 <noob7> :D
23:07 <Flex> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmSdy_9blB4
23:07 <Flex> Monkey_arma, here's your big chance
23:08 <Monkey_arma> i havent got a flash plugin flex
23:09 <hoax> LOLOLOLOL!!!
23:09 <hoax> anyone who uploads deserves to be shot
23:10 <Flex> Video Responses   (view all 110 responses)
23:12 <epsy> they almost got me to trust them lol
23:12 <epsy> http://www.google.com/virgle/
23:12 <epsy> with the goddamn idiot page xD
23:12 <epsy> http://www.google.com/virgle/application.html
23:12 <epsy> haha
23:13 <Flex> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIwDPZYE3x4&watch_response
23:13 <hoax> # I am a world-class expert in
23:13 <hoax> physics
23:13 <hoax> medicine and first aid
23:13 <hoax> engineering
23:13 <hoax> Guitar Hero II
23:13 <hoax> rofl
23:13 <Flex> check that response hoax
23:13 <Manta> wow, to have a job that pays you to make a page like that every year
23:13 <epsy> yeah...
23:14 <Flex> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tkm9pLfUuWI&feature=related
23:14 <Flex> best response so far:
23:14 <Flex> ^^
23:14 <Flex> is luke!
23:14 <epsy> lmfao
23:14 <hoax> ffs lol
23:15 <Flex> y0 g0t rick r0lled
23:15 <hoax> twice in 2mins lol!
23:15 <hoax> #tea
23:15 <armabot> hoax: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
23:15 <Flex> i swear that luke :D
23:15 <Flex> that's^
23:16 <hoax> #si o.s
23:16 <armabot> hoax: ¦×¦.Team.Sumo.Server: Players (0/16):
23:17 <hoax> pff where the fuck is everyone
23:18  * Monkey_arma is here
23:18 <hoax> heh i guess you count :D
23:19 <epsy> #lastseen epsy
23:19 <armabot> epsy: ¦×¦epsy seems to be on Bugfarm Cubed right now.
23:19 <epsy> pfff XD
23:20 <epsy> i guess i dropped same ranking too
23:20 <Monkey_arma> you are an imposter epsy...kick
23:20 <epsy> #rating epsy
23:20 <armabot> epsy: epsy is 2505th with a rating of 1468-1567 (from 1477-1574)
23:20 <epsy> rofl
23:20 <epsy> i lost 1000 places or what
23:20 <Flex> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDmiVsJseEw&feature=related
23:21 <Flex> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2d6LWECFpxo&feature=related
23:21 <Flex> omg hoax you applied
23:23 <hoax> rofl @ 2nd vid
23:23 <hoax> all these guys look the same
23:24 <Flex> lol true
23:32 <ender> holy shit!
23:32 <ender> apples
23:43 <K-Yo> #si cubed
23:43 <armabot> K-Yo: Bugfarm Cubed: Players (10/16): CuRbSidE, dlh, k@work, luke-jr, marrow, philippeqc, Tank Program (Tank\ Program@forums), wrtlprnft |mbc| (wrtlprnft@forums), Your_mom, Z-Man (Z-Man@forums)
23:43 <hoax> ender you got 3d working yet
23:43 <K-Yo> #si =s
23:43 <armabot> K-Yo: Wild West  =Sumo=: Players (7/14): -=}ID< Taco, .:] CuRbSidE, .dBd|Starbucks, <V> B3urr3, Aion, Fo§hO, preSs
23:43 <K-Yo> how funny CuRb is a double person
23:44 <hoax> just thinking that :D
23:44 <K-Yo> I know
23:44 <K-Yo> 2 comps, one hand per computer
23:44 <hoax> whys he in cubed anyways....
23:48 <epsy> gn
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23:56 <Manta> yo durka
23:56 <Durka> hey-o
23:56 <noob7> hey durka, your server still owned?
23:57 <Durka> wrtlprnft : gotcha
23:57  * Durka is gonna get killed by wrtlprnft 
23:57 <Durka> noob7: jajaja
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Log from 2008-04-02:
--- Day changed Wed Apr 02 2008
00:00 <Durka> Manta: can u see my /msg's ?
00:00 <Manta> no
00:01 <Durka> :\
00:01 <Durka> just talk here
00:01 <Manta> alright.....
00:01 <Manta> maybe it doesn't like this NAT
00:02 <Manta> does this mean you will be coming up with some fancy new modes now that your mac isn't so limiting?
00:03 <Durka> :P
00:03 <Durka> possibly :D
00:04 <Manta> cool, I've loved your past ones
00:04 <Durka> heh
00:04 <Durka> ok, so I got everything from
00:05 <Durka> https://code.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty
00:05 <Durka> which is the sty patch included into the 0.2.8 branch with armathentication and everything
00:05 <hoax> woot u guys got rico aswell
00:06 <hoax> [b][c=1]> > Alex ~[/c=#00D2EA][/b] [c=1][/c] says:
00:06 <hoax> how do u apply that 3d tron patch
00:06 <hoax> hehehe
00:06 <Durka> rofl!
00:06 <hoax> any answers? :D
00:06 <Flex> he's on windows.. give him the link
00:06 <noob7> doubleclick
00:06 <Flex> no patching involved
00:06 <Manta> I kinda had truble with the cube patch, way to much text in the diff file
00:06 <noob7> works out of the box
00:07 <Durka> do you want to send me the link to the map you're using?
00:07 <hoax> [b][c=1]> > Alex ~[/c=#00D2EA][/b] [c=1][/c] says:
00:07 <hoax> its annoying me
00:07 <hoax> [b][c=1]> > Alex ~[/c=#00D2EA][/b] [c=1][/c] says:
00:07 <hoax> i downloaded the latest build
00:07 <hoax> [b][c=1]> > Alex ~[/c=#00D2EA][/b] [c=1][/c] says:
00:07 <hoax> try to connect to cube server
00:07 <hoax> [b][c=1]> > Alex ~[/c=#00D2EA][/b] [c=1][/c] says:
00:07 <hoax> and tron shuts down
00:07 <hoax> lmao
00:07 <Manta> I was forced to run the windows client in wine, then cube worked ok
00:07 <hoax> phone NASA theyll fix it for you
00:08 <Flex> it could be his config settings
00:08 <Durka> #serverinfo cube
00:08 <armabot> Durka: Bugfarm Cubed: Players (8/16): ct-kyle, CuRbSidE, k@work, Lucifer (Lucifer@forums), luke-jr, marrow, Tank Program (Tank\ Program@forums), Z-Man (Z-Man@forums)
00:08 <Durka> curbside is in there ew ;)
00:08 <Flex> tell him to try clear his config folders or something
00:08 <Manta> Durka: the server uses a map with the same name as the client however in it's file it has the zones in it
00:10 <Durka> so in the client-side version of the map there are no zones?
00:10 <Durka> but the srever one there is?
00:10 <Durka> the shooting works btw
00:11 <Manta> yes thats right, I can't send here... let me copy the file to someplace web viewable
00:11 <Manta> arg
00:11 <Durka> pastebin thing
00:12 <Durka> or use http://senduit.com
00:12 <ct|kyle> pastebin.ca
00:12 <ct|kyle> lol
00:13 <Durka> http://rafb.net/paste/
00:13 <Manta> cool, the other site I used had a terible interface
00:13 <Manta> http://senduit.com/82f694
00:15 <Manta> that file would then go in /armagetronad-dedicated/resource/included/Your_mom/clever/
00:15 <Durka> k
00:15 <Manta> took me quite a while to figure out what was going on as that wasn't documented
00:15 <Durka> u sent me the map not the dtd btw
00:16 <Manta> here is the dtd file http://senduit.com/8896d1
00:16 <Durka> i have no resource/included folder
00:16 <Durka> it's /resource/proto/Your_mom
00:16 <ct|kyle> Durka: somewhere you do
00:17 <Durka> no i dont kylez0rz
00:17 <Manta> so long as that is where it's looking first for the map that is fine
00:18 <Durka> where do i put teh dtd?
00:18 <Manta> the dtd file goes in Your_mom/dtd/
00:19 <Durka> it goes in my mom? o_O
00:19 <Durka> scnr
00:19 <Manta> :X
00:19 <Durka> there is no Your_mom/dtd/
00:20 <Manta> go ahead and create it, if it does not work it means you have to keep hunting for where the server looks for it's maps
00:21 <Manta> /armagetronad-dedicated/resource/included/Your_mom/clever
00:21 <Manta> /armagetronad-dedicated/resource/included/Your_mom/dtd
00:21 <Manta> since your compiling your self that directory could be about anywhere
00:22 <Durka> ok lemme try the server
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00:22 <Durka> #serverinfo durka
00:22 <armabot> Durka: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “durka” at the moment, sorry.
00:23 <Durka> won't update that fast
00:23 <Durka> fail
00:23 <Durka> no zones
00:23 <Durka> meh, i'll just try it later
00:23 <Durka> g2g
00:23 <Manta> ok
00:23 <Durka> thnx for ur help so far manta
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00:23 <Manta> check it's cache
00:24 <Flex> http://www.news.com/8301-10789_3-9907939-57.html?tag=nefd.top
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00:26 <Flex> pfff five years or nothing for infecting x number of comps..
00:27 <Flex> that guy should be shot several times, or minimum of removing one of his balls
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00:30 <hoax> geeks
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00:32 <Flex> people get insane amounts of years for stupid stuff, like the guy who got pwned for whois'ing spam ip's or something, but this dickhead gets community service for spamming and spreading malware; potentially fucking up alot of peoples comps
00:33 <hoax> allow unis aswell...
00:33 <Flex> 30k profit for spreading adware and only community service.
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00:49 <hoax> #tea
00:49 <armabot> hoax: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
00:50 <hoax> #si o.s
00:50 <armabot> hoax: ¦×¦.Team.Sumo.Server: Players (0/16):
00:59 <Flex> lol +P4 disconnected
00:59 <Flex> N9_kiwi is the winner
01:00 <hoax> lol
01:00 <hoax> man what does +V even do
01:01 <Flex> but considering he's on a datacentre it's not totally fair
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01:13 <pippijn> torres: char f (int x) { return char (-(1./180.)*pow (x,7.)+(11./144.)*pow(x,6.)-(301./720.)*pow(x,5.)+(293./144.)*pow(x,4.)-(7531./720.)*pow(x,3.)+(511./18.)*pow(x,2.)-(1597./60.)*x+112); } int main () { for (int i = 0; i < 7; i++) cout.put (f (i)); }
01:13 <pippijn> *sigh*
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01:14 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/QUARG/sumo/brawl-2.aamap.xml: Resource by QUARG
01:14 <pippijn> torres: char f (int x) { return char (-(1./180.)*pow (x,7.)+(11./144.)*pow(x,6.)-(301./720.)*pow(x,5.)+(293./144.)*pow(x,4.)-(7531./720.)*pow(x,3.)+(511./18.)*pow(x,2.)-(1597./60.)*x+112); } int main () { for (int i = 0; i < 7; i++) cout.put (f (i)); }
01:14 <torres> pipoijn
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02:06 <armabot> lpbugs: [210548] Wrtl Release: minimap randomly rotates
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04:14 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: you'd need to use cryopid or such probably
04:19 <Monkey_arma> ?? oO? eh what what ?
04:19 <Monkey_arma> for ?? eh what wha ?
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04:21 <Monkey_arma> you mean for changing kernel  or?
04:22 <Monkey_arma> well we managed to fluke having the wrong  kernel with the wrong version of linux :) so it went ok ...somehow
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04:47 <StickyNoob> whats that bugfarm server?
04:48 <StickyNoob> bugfarm cubed
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05:11 <Durka_> Manta: PING
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05:43 <Durka_> Manta I'm gonna kill Destiny one day >:)
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07:24 <Durka_> #lastseen manta
07:24 <armabot> Durka_: _-`Ww_Manta has last been seen on  Wild West  =Sumo= 57 minutes ago.
07:24 <Durka_> #lastseen de5
07:24 <armabot> Durka_: _-`Ww_De5T!Ny has last been seen on  Wild West  =Sumo= 57 minutes ago.
07:25 <Durka_> fuck :\
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07:38 <wrtlprnft> #serverdetails cube
07:38 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Bugfarm Cubed: Players (20/16): ct-kyle, ct-voodoo, CuRbSidE, dlh, ender |mbc|, joda.bot, k@work, klax, Lucifer (Lucifer@forums), luke-jr, marrow, QUARG, subby, taco343, Tank Program (Tank\ Program@forums), wrtlprnft |mbc| (wrtlprnft@forums), wrtlpwnd |me|, Your_mom, Z-Man (Z-Man@forums), ¦×¦epsy (epsy@x)
07:38 <luke-jr> did someone make it actually show up on the master list in the game?>
07:39 <wrtlprnft> definitely
07:39 <wrtlprnft> it's a normal server that talks to the masters
07:40 <wrtlprnft> note that it's on port 4108
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07:41 <luke-jr> perhaps, but it wasn't showing up before
07:41 <luke-jr> probably due to the version requirement
07:42 <wrtlprnft> no, it claims to accept clients starting from version 0
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09:43 <initng_> hello
09:43 <initng_> i wonder, why server expands game field very much when human players join?
09:44 <initng_> can i make it singleplayer-size?
09:44 <initng_> ARENA_SIZE doesn't seem to work :(
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11:10 <noob13> initng_: size_factor and sp_size_factor
11:10 <initng_> yeah i meant that
11:10 <initng_> it just says that variable changed value
11:11 <initng_> and arena size remains same
11:11 <initng_> didn't try sp_size_factor, though
11:11 <initng_> isn't it for singleplayer?
11:11 <noob13> sp stands for single player, yes..
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14:29 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8395 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. . src/tron/gCycle.cpp): wrtlprnft: Fixed erroneous update of spawnDir that caused the minimap to rotate sometimes when it wasn't supposed to.
14:30 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8396 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. win32/code_blocks/ArmagetronAd.cbp): wrtlprnft: meh, always pull before you ci
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14:33 <noob7> #tell durka test?
14:33 <armabot> noob7: Error: I haven't seen durka, I'll let you do the telling.
14:34 <noob7> :P
14:34 <wrtlprnft> #later tell lets you tell anyome
14:34 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
14:34 <wrtlprnft> goddamnit
14:34 <noob7> ty :P
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14:38 <tell> cleanup.
14:38 <noob7> :D
14:38 <wrtlprnft> err
14:38 -!- tell is now known as lets
14:38 <lets> blah
14:38 <lets> now i got it
14:38 <lets> darn you wrtlprnft
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14:38 <noob7> :P
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14:49 <wrtlprnft>   PID USER     PRI  NI  VIRT   RES   SHR S CPU% MEM%   TIME+  Command
14:49 <wrtlprnft>  5700 supybot   20   0  284M  180M  2720 S  0.4 48.1 66h58:38 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/supybot armabot.conf
14:49 <wrtlprnft> something tells me subybot is NOT efficient
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14:59 <deja_vu> well, it still leaves 52% for other programs!
15:07 <wrtlprnft> x_X
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16:22 <spidey> wrtlprnft,
16:22 <wrtlprnft> spidey: 
16:22 <spidey> wrtlprnft, what's the system called where 1000mb = 1gb?
16:23 <spidey> 1gib, mib, w/e i forgot
16:23 <spidey> xD
16:23 <wrtlprnft> SI?
16:23 <wrtlprnft> 1024MiB == 1GiB
16:24 <wrtlprnft> although mb would technically be milli-bytes (or milli-bits), which wouldn't make any sense.
16:25 <spidey> heh
16:25 <spidey> that's it, thanks :D
16:25 <wrtlprnft> yw
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16:50 <Flex> hey flea
16:50 <flea> hey
16:51 <Flex> how's it going? ;)
16:51 <flea> busy busy - you?
16:51 <Flex> not much here :)
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19:13 <Durka_> Manta: >.>
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19:16 <Manta> ?
19:31 <epsy> never try to understand durka when he thinks you understood and leaves in a hurry
19:47 <guru3> unless you're psychic
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20:30 <noob7> #later tell durka ring ring!
20:30 <armabot> noob7: The operation succeeded.
20:49 <epsy> heh
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21:26 <noob7> one question, is this: http://leibniz06.de/tempbla/arma_cl_table.php - the color picker most other pickers are based on?
21:27 <noob7> I remember there being one based on cycle color selection, not tail color selection, by iceman I think? Oo
21:34 <wrtlprnft> the cycle color selection is very limited.
21:35 <noob7> so basing it on tail color is easier or more logical?
21:36 <noob7> ah I see what you mean :)
21:37 <noob7> it doesnt make sense to base the tail colors on the bikes color since the selection would be "smaller", but rather having the bikes color coresponding to the tails color will give for a wider selection?
21:37 <wrtlprnft> sort of
21:38 <wrtlprnft> for a given bike colors you have 8 possible tail colors at most
21:38 <wrtlprnft> *bike color
21:39 <wrtlprnft> usually just one
21:39 <noob7> so giving the user the choice between 8 tail colors makes more sense, I understand :)
21:39 <noob7> *up to
21:39 <wrtlprnft> no, you choose between a lot of possible bike colors and get the possible tail colors with that
21:40 <wrtlprnft> and you only get a choice if the tail color has at least one 15 somewhere
21:40 <noob7> for the picker I pasted a link to, it's the other way around
21:40 <noob7> you pick your tail color
21:40 <noob7> and it shows you coresponding bike and "2nd tail color" to pick from
21:40 <wrtlprnft> and based on that you get a list of cycle colors
21:41 <wrtlprnft> zero fifteens: 1 possibility
21:41 <wrtlprnft> two fifteens: 16 possibilities (just 15 shown for some reason)
21:41 <wrtlprnft> err, that was one fifteen
21:41 <wrtlprnft> three fifteens: 16*16 possibilities (just 15*15 shown for some reason)
21:41 <wrtlprnft> white: 16*16*16 possibilities (just 15*15*15 shown for some reason)
21:42 <noob7> holy moly, I need to understand this more, I just confuse my self with this :D
21:42 <wrtlprnft> if it was the other way you'd have 1 choice if your chosen color didn't contain a 15
21:42 <wrtlprnft> 2 if it contained one
21:42 <wrtlprnft> 4 if it contained two
21:42 <wrtlprnft> 8 if it was white
21:43 <noob7> well, the picker by deja_vu always gives me 15 choices for each tail color
21:43 <noob7> I havent tried many settings yet, but trying to tweak the code, that's why I asked in the first place
21:43 <wrtlprnft> try pure yellow, cyan or magenta
21:43 <wrtlprnft> http://leibniz06.de/tempbla/arma_cl_table.php?trail=ffff00
21:43 <wrtlprnft> bottom rightt
21:43 <wrtlprnft> *right
21:44 <wrtlprnft> http://leibniz06.de/tempbla/arma_cl_table.php?trail=ff00ff
21:44 <wrtlprnft> top left of the 2nd table
21:44 <wrtlprnft> http://leibniz06.de/tempbla/arma_cl_table.php?trail=00ffff top middle of the first
21:44 <noob7> hm...
21:44 <wrtlprnft> http://leibniz06.de/tempbla/arma_cl_table.php?trail=ffffff not linked to from the main page, but possible
21:45 <wrtlprnft> http://leibniz06.de/tempbla/arma_cl_table.php?trail=888888 ← example with no fifteen (or ff)
21:45 <noob7> I see what you are saying
21:58 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/repro.phps
21:59 <wrtlprnft> self-reproducing php file without tricks like eval() or opening itself as a file ;-)
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22:02 <noob7> heya monkey!!
22:07 <Monkey_arma> hiho noob #7
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22:14 <hoax> luke-jr is gay
22:14 <Monkey_arma> oO  harsh
22:14 <hoax> monKEH!
22:14 <Monkey_arma> hoooooooooooooooooooooaaaaax
22:15 <epsy> Göacs :D
22:15 <hoax> whats up my northern nigaa xD
22:15 <hoax> 76 my fwench rudeboi
22:15  * epsy has now a lame weblog :|
22:15 <hoax> lol!
22:15 <hoax> linkage 0ls
22:15 <hoax> pls
22:15 <Monkey_arma> epsy weblog :|
22:15 <epsy> http://epsy46.free.fr/
22:15 <hoax> bha blah i am french
22:15 <epsy> didin't even finish the theme yet
22:15 <epsy> LOL! hoax
22:16 <hoax> I <3 garlic & crisants
22:16 <noob7> :o
22:16 <hoax> man ur secdond posts conufiuse me
22:16 <noob7> try "wiener" (sausage) wrapped in the dough croissantes are made of
22:17 <noob7> hmmm
22:17 <epsy> duh the tag cloud looks flat
22:17 <hoax> oO
22:17 <hoax> german & french ftw?
22:17 <hoax> w/e
22:17 <hoax> luke-jr, is still ftl
22:17 <epsy> noob7, i once ate that
22:17 <noob7> you did? :)
22:17 <epsy> noob7, but "they" put some kind of shit with it
22:18 <noob7> theres not supposed to go "shit" with it
22:18 <epsy> so it really tasted like shit :|
22:18 <noob7> :P
22:18 <luke-jr> f u hoax
22:18 <hoax> freaks
22:18 <hoax> LOL!
22:18 <hoax> fu lik
22:18 <hoax> fu luke-jr
22:18 <hoax> noob
22:18 <noob7> just the austrian "wiener" sausages, wrapped in that dough
22:18 <noob7> delicious!
22:18 <Monkey_arma> oh you are making me hungry again
22:18 <ct|kyle> luke-jr == idiot
22:18 <Monkey_arma> stop it
22:18 <noob7> hehe monkey :P
22:19 <noob7> I am tempted to order a pizza right now, 30min until the shop closes :D
22:19 <luke-jr> you're the retards attacking me for no reason
22:19 <hoax> luke-jr, FTL!
22:19 <noob7> retard luke, not retards
22:19 <noob7> :P
22:19 <hoax> lol!
22:19  * noob7 points at hoax :D
22:19 <z-wt> nah
22:19  * hoax feels sorry for luke-jr
22:20 <ct|kyle> me too he has no friends
22:20 <hoax> L(OL!!!!
22:20 <z-wt> he have
22:20 <z-wt> :P
22:20 <epsy> i hear hoax wants to have a frnech kiss with you luke
22:20 <Monkey_arma> why all are attacking luke-jr?
22:20 <hoax> luke ill be ur friend...if u pay me
22:20  * noob7 gets out his camera
22:20 <hoax> epsy epsy epsy
22:20 <z-wt> camsex ftw
22:20 <z-wt> :D
22:20 <noob7> I dont know monkey, but I want to record that kiss
22:20 <luke-jr> anyone want a free arma server
22:20 <Monkey_arma> no
22:20 <hoax> fuck it luke
22:20 <ct|kyle> your server lags
22:20 <Monkey_arma> free?
22:20 <epsy> hmm, i already have one, heh
22:20 <hoax> lets give them smth to watch
22:21 <luke-jr> ct|kyle lags
22:21 <ct|kyle> luke-jr's wife lags
22:21 <noob7> :o
22:21 <epsy> luke-jr, btw i'm getting constant problems with most of the DNS servers managed by you... :/
22:21 <hoax> luke jrs wife is a tortiose xDDD
22:22 <z-wt> err
22:22 <epsy> O_o
22:22 <noob7> epsy, if there'll ever be a chance I will make "wiener im schlafrock" for you :)
22:22 <hoax> http://spot.colorado.edu/~humphrey/fact%20sheets/tortoise_galapagos/images/tortoise_photo.jpg
22:22 <epsy> was ist Schlafrock?
22:22 <hoax> LOL
22:22 <hoax> nice bird luke
22:22 <noob7> its just "slang" for a sausage in a "sleeping gown"
22:22 <noob7> meaning the dough
22:23  * Monkey_arma wants to point out that wiener in croissant pastry is just "sausage roll"
22:23 <noob7> in the UK maybe :D
22:23 <noob7> the germans have weird and fancy names for all kinds of regional food
22:23 <ct|kyle> i think luke-jr thinks that if he starts giving away "free" stuff then he will get some friends
22:24 <hoax> onkey eats deep fried mars bars what a wasteman
22:24 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: I never said that
22:24 <noob7> with this machine we can fry a whole cow within 60 seconds
22:24 <luke-jr> I was just wondering who wanted one
22:24 <noob7> but I want it NOOOOOW
22:24 <Monkey_arma> german has very long names like.... "wienerbrockenwurstencroissantentmittenferdenkuchepatisen"
22:24 <noob7> indeed monkey :D
22:25 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: it was interpreted from (16:25:19) luke-jr: anyone want a free arma server
22:25 <Monkey_arma> epsy i dont get how that  code made it go faster in one direcetion
22:25 <epsy> oops
22:25 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: I never said I'd supply them
22:26 <noob7> I think that's the actual joke he's trying to pull...
22:26 <hoax> #ls |x|_fofo
22:26 <noob7> maybe it flew above my head tho
22:26 <epsy> #ls fufu
22:26 <armabot> hoax: timed out
22:26 <armabot> epsy: timed out
22:26 <hoax> boo
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22:28 <luke-jr> #rating |x| fofo
22:28 <luke-jr> #rating fufu
22:28 <epsy> Monkey_arma, remind me to read thru my posts before submitting them next time :þ
22:28 <Monkey_arma> yes epsy i will
22:28 <epsy> #rating ¦×¦ FüFü
22:28 <epsy> Monkey_arma, in the meantime, just reload :þ
22:29 <noob7> #later epsy tell READ POSTS BEFORE POSTING!
22:29 <noob7> #later tell epsy READ POSTS BEFORE POSTING!
22:29 <luke-jr> epsy: you have problems with http://luke.dashjr.org
22:29 <luke-jr> ?
22:29 <armabot> luke-jr: |x|_fofo is 666th with a rating of 1566-1601 (from 1570-1609)
22:29 <epsy> hm, no
22:29 <epsy> not now at least
22:29 <luke-jr> epsy: then there's nothing I can do about it
22:29 <epsy> nice rank there
22:29 <armabot> luke-jr: fufu is 3895th with a rating of 1419-1625 (from 1420-1624)
22:29 <Monkey_arma> heh ok epsy that looks a bit more sensible..
22:29 <armabot> epsy: |x|_fufu is 666th with a rating of 1566-1601 (from 1570-1609)
22:29 <armabot> noob7: The operation succeeded.
22:30 <noob7> !
22:30 <epsy> luke-jr, http://beta.armagetronad.net/ : 1st time i get a server not found error
22:30 <epsy> then once i reload everything runs fine
22:30 <epsy> and i have that almost each time
22:30 <epsy> #aka 0:FoFo@x
22:30 <armabot> epsy: ¿11701 0:FoFo@xclan.armagetron.co.uk 0:FoFo@x
22:31 <ct|kyle> #aka luke-jr
22:31 <armabot> ct|kyle: ¿8 praise_jesus luke-jr btpwner pwnt_by_bt luke-jr_pwns_p4 0:Luke-Jr@forums 0:luke@dashjr.org
22:31 <epsy> #aka 0:epsy@fff.armagetron.co.uk/staff
22:31 <armabot> epsy: ¿3832 |x|epsy2 |x|epsy 0:epsy@x 0:epsy@fff.armagetron.co.uk/staff
22:31 <epsy> epsy2 haha
22:32 <luke-jr> epsy: others' buggy DNS servers maybe have problems following a cross-TLD NS record
22:33 <epsy> other's?
22:33 <luke-jr> others', yes
22:33 <epsy> others'?
22:33 <epsy> whose are those?
22:33 <luke-jr> …
22:33 <luke-jr> whomever's you use
22:33 <luke-jr> apparently
22:34 <luke-jr> when you looking beta.armagetronad.net
22:34 <luke-jr> . says .net is handled by nsX.bla.net
22:34 <luke-jr> .net says who handles armagetronad.net
22:34 <luke-jr> armagetronad.net says ns1.dashjr.org handles beta.armagetronad.net
22:35 <luke-jr> ns1.dashjr.org says beta.armagetronad.net is at hachi, and hachi is x.x.x.x
22:35 <epsy> donµ't you think that's a bit much?
22:35 <luke-jr> apparently some DNS caches don't like following armagetronad.net's pointer to ns1.dashjr.org
22:35 <luke-jr> it's one more than normal
22:35 <luke-jr> necessary because the DNS is not at the same place
22:36 <epsy> they should have been..
22:36 <noob7> oh epsy :P
22:39 <epsy> lmao
22:41 <luke-jr> wah wah, it's standards compliant so fix your caches
22:41 <luke-jr> or use ones that work
22:48 <Monkey_arma> lmao there is now a fake mad max
22:54 <luke-jr> his fault for stealing the name :þ
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22:54 <luke-jr> Mad Max is a movie
22:54  * epsy has to agree
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22:56 <noob7> pfff
22:56 <noob7> so just because all MCP servers use beatles songs means now someone could be rude enough to host another "strawberry fields"? rolleyes...
22:57 <epsy> providing they didn't know obout yours, yes
22:57 <Monkey_arma> lastseen madmax
22:57 <noob7> then I'll just have to chop some heads off
22:57 <noob7> easy fix
22:57 <Monkey_arma> #lastseen madmax
22:57 <armabot> Monkey_arma: madmax has last been seen on - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - 1 hour 19 minutes ago.
22:57 <Monkey_arma> #lastseen Mad Max
22:57 <armabot> Monkey_arma: Mad Max has last been seen on [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. 8 minutes ago.
22:57 <epsy> hahahaha
22:57 <Monkey_arma> :|
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22:58 <Monkey_arma> hmmm
22:58 <noob13> hi!!
22:58 <Monkey_arma> hiho 13
22:58 <noob7> \o 13
22:58 <epsy> what the fuck...
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23:02 <Monkey_arma> looks like madmax has multiple personality disorder
23:02 <Monkey_arma> neither of them are him btw
23:03 <epsy> no sorry i was talking about my (self-closing) firefox
23:06 <Monkey_arma> firefox....yep sound about right
23:09 <noob13> #insult Zthread
23:09 <armabot> Zthread - You are nothing but a low-quality ooze of bawdy waffle-house.
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23:28 <noob7> nato has gone crazy: http://www.natochannel.tv/
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23:37 <K-Yo> ah
23:37 <K-Yo> server brown down :P
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23:44 <noob7> 7k users eh?
23:44 <noob7> just a teeeeeny bit of re-routing xD
23:44 <baddog> XD
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02:55 <spidey> um
02:55 <spidey> wow
02:55 <spidey> i got got a email from charter, saying we're being suspected of copyright infrigment
02:55 <Monkey_arma> oO
02:55 <Monkey_arma> tron?
02:55 <Monkey_arma> was it sent on April 1st?
02:56 <spidey> dude
02:56 <spidey> if my isp is playing a april fools joke on me like that
02:56 <spidey> i'ma be really, really pissed
02:56  * Monkey_arma agrees
02:56 <Monkey_arma> heh
02:57 <Monkey_arma> so armagetron is or???
02:57 <spidey> ok
02:57 <spidey> it's not april fools
02:57 <spidey> it includes the name of the torrent i downloaded
02:57 <Monkey_arma> when you said "we" i thought you meant armagetron
02:58 <Monkey_arma> man they check those  eh :|
03:07 <spidey> ok
03:07 <spidey> so what it is
03:08 <spidey> nbc univeral sent my isp a email
03:08 <spidey> House M.D. - Season 04    <---- that torrent's being tracked
03:08 <spidey> so if you like house, don't torrent it
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12:10 <epsy> hey
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14:58 <noob7> we are still having weird problems with the ZThread install, maybe someone feels generous and wants to help? :D
15:00 <noob13> madness..
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17:03 <noob7> heya
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21:19 <epsy> wrtlprnft, Monkey@x not monkey@x
21:21 <wrtlprnft> goddamnit
21:21  * wrtlprnft hates uppercase letters
21:22 <wrtlprnft> done.
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21:43 <Monkey_arma> :| sry
21:43 <Monkey_arma> there is another monkey with lowercase
21:44 <luke-jr> wtf
21:48  * wrtlprnft wonders how you ever got any admin/moderator powers in the first place
21:48 <wrtlprnft> it shouldn't have ever worked
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22:10 <Monkey_arma> BUG
22:22 <hoax> Yeah monkey saw that he had points
22:24 <Monkey_arma> oO
22:26 <hoax> :D
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Log from 2008-04-04:
--- Day changed Fri Apr 04 2008
00:22 <epsy> lol, i had a spam dated at 2009
00:22 <epsy> probably some way to keep on top of the mailbox
00:22 <epsy> and also a second one
00:23 <epsy> 95% of my spam just look like the same...
00:24 <noob7> 95% of all spam looks the same
00:24 <noob7> your inbox is not special :P
00:24 <epsy> a little paragraph of one sentence, then a second paragraph with again only one sentence and a link at it's end
00:25 <epsy> it's just all the same
00:25 <noob7> I wonder what the click-thru rate is for them
00:26 <epsy> noob7, let me find that article back
00:28 <epsy> http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/252983852/article.pl
00:28 <epsy> there
00:28 <noob7> thanks, reading
00:30 <noob7> well yeah... I think I read that sometime already I think
00:30 <epsy> lol, reading thru the other results..
00:30 <epsy> http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/234980908/article.pl
00:37 <epsy> good night
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01:18 <zmanuel> Quiz: what color do Ninja's wear when they're active in the woods?
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01:21 <Monkey_arma> ...
01:22 <noob7> black of course
01:22 <noob7> they are damn ninjas
01:22 <Monkey_arma> i think its a joke noob so black will not be answer
01:22 <noob7> or maybe "you cant tell, they are ninjas and you wont notice them"
01:23 <Monkey_arma> we dunno
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02:00 <hoax> #tea
02:00 <armabot> hoax: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
02:00 <hoax> #si =
02:00 <armabot> hoax: Wild West  =Capture The Flag=: Players (10/10): Backernater, Denise, F/10, MooRaa, moth, Mukaltin, OddLechery, Sk=- Sonic, |TwH}=storm], ~Spyro~
02:00 <hoax> #si o=
02:00 <armabot> hoax: Wild West  =Sumo=: Players (6/14): dßdHi, halcyon, Kim Pine, Minefield, Player 1, twinx^
02:13 <Monkey_arma> hoaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaax
02:13 <Monkey_arma> come nexus
02:13 <hoax> sweet
02:46 <z-man> Monkey_arma, noob7: in the game I'm just playing, they wear RED.
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03:16 <Monkey_arma> oO
03:16 <Monkey_arma> there was a game called ninja hamster....
03:20 <Monkey_arma> what game is this? wesnoth or something?
03:21 <Monkey_arma> i was in wesnoth irc just to see what its about and they showed the download stats..they average about 3000 downloads a day!
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03:55 <z-man> Monkey_arma: Dungeon Lords
03:56 <z-man> and big deal BOW is getting 3000 downloads, they're releasing a new version every week or so :)
03:56 <z-man> And spam about it on Happy Penguin
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15:11 <wrtlprnft> [101%] Building CXX object kblog/CMakeFiles/kblog.dir/movabletype.o
15:11 <wrtlprnft> gotta love cmake
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16:26 <eddiefantastic> wrtlprnft: you have far too much patience for that map guy
16:27 <wrtlprnft> x_X
16:27 <eddiefantastic> probably explains why my IT phone support career was so short
16:27 <wrtlprnft> hehe
16:28 <eddiefantastic> you've just totally confused the poor guy with your last post
16:28 <luke-jr> lol
16:30 <wrtlprnft> that's why my phone support carreer will be short or probably non-existant
16:30 <eddiefantastic> I wouldn't it recommend to anyone
16:31 <eddiefantastic> man, am I going dyslexic?
16:31 <luke-jr> any idea how much justice costs?
16:32 <eddiefantastic> justice?
16:32 <luke-jr> yeah
16:32 <eddiefantastic> as in Judge Dredd?
16:32 <luke-jr> wtf?
16:35 <eddiefantastic> Mega City 1?
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18:36 <noob7> #sd nexus
18:36 <armabot> noob7: Nexus9 (NO RUBBER!): Players (1/16): noob7
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22:04 <madmax> #lastseen goody
22:04 <armabot> madmax: timed out
22:05 <epsy> anyone wanna spec the FFF finals
22:05 <epsy> so i can talk to someone
22:05 <epsy> :P
22:06 <hoax> ww last night max
22:07 <epsy> #armacfg silence_all
22:07 <epsy> #armaconfig silence_all
22:07 <armabot> epsy: SILENCE_ALL: If set to 1, all chat messages will be omitted. (default: 0)
22:07 <epsy> hm..
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22:12 <madmax> ww?
22:12 <epsy> wild worst
22:12 <madmax> huh
22:14 <epsy> #armaservers
22:14 <armabot> epsy: This data is 5 seconds old; [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (12/12), Fortress Café (11/32), Nexus9 (NO RUBBER!) (10/16), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (10/14), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (8/10), Norm's Place (8/12), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (7/16), []=[].SniperzKlan Arena<--->CTF Shooting.[]=[] (6/8), Wild West  =Sumo= (6/14), Wild West  =Team Sumo= (6/14), >>> FAST TRACK (2 more messages)
22:15 <madmax> is the fff final today?
22:16 <epsy> no, sunday
22:18 <epsy> ..and someone who is talkative, please :S
22:19 <luke-jr> no
22:20 <epsy> :(
22:26 <MrBougo> #wisdom
22:26 <epsy> when will you get that armabot is a blonde..
22:39 <MrBougo> #markov
22:39 <MrBougo> nevr
22:39 <MrBougo> #<3
22:39 <madmax> #bigbrothers
22:39 <madmax> er
22:39 <MrBougo> #botsnack
22:39 <armabot> /me licks MrBougo
22:39 <madmax> #bigbrother
22:39 <armabot> madmax: Usage: #lastseen [-f] <nick> -OR- #lastseen -g <nick>@<authority>
22:39 <madmax> :|
22:39 <MrBougo> #botsnack
22:39 <MrBougo> #botsnack
22:39 <MrBougo> #botsnack
22:39 <armabot> /me licks MrBougo
22:39 <armabot> /me licks MrBougo
22:39 <armabot> /me licks MrBougo
22:40 <MrBougo> #help alias lastseen
22:40 <armabot> MrBougo: (alias lastseen <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/lastseen.php?player=@1+@2+@3+@4+@5+@6+@7+@8+@9".
22:40 <MrBougo> #help bigborother
22:40 <armabot> MrBougo: Error: There is no command "bigborother".
22:40 <MrBougo> #help bigbrother
22:40 <armabot> MrBougo: (bigbrother <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "lastseen $*".
22:40 <MrBougo> #alias bigbrother "alias lastseen $*"
22:40 <MrBougo> thereyougo
22:40 <armabot> MrBougo: -=}ID< alias has last been seen on -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < 2 hours 30 minutes ago.
22:40 <MrBougo> #bigbrother
22:40 <armabot> MrBougo: Usage: #lastseen [-f] <nick> -OR- #lastseen -g <nick>@<authority>
22:40 <madmax> #lastseen -g madmax@forums
22:40 <armabot> madmax: madmax has last been seen on Fortress Café 5 days 19 hours 35 minutes ago.
22:40 <MrBougo> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh?
22:40 <madmax> hm nice
22:40 <MrBougo> wtf
22:41 <MrBougo> #bigbrother
22:41 <armabot> MrBougo: Usage: #lastseen [-f] <nick> -OR- #lastseen -g <nick>@<authority>
22:41 <MrBougo> #lastseen
22:41 <armabot> MrBougo: Usage: #lastseen [-f] <nick> -OR- #lastseen -g <nick>@<authority>
22:41 <MrBougo> #lastseen -f MrBougo
22:41 <MrBougo> oh ok
22:41 <armabot> MrBougo: timed out
22:49 <madmax> we need anti jerk on cafe please
22:49 <madmax> oh wait, he left
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23:40 <Monkey_arma> what is up with cafe?
23:40 <Monkey_arma> imposter again?
23:41 <epsy> Monkey_arma, right now?
23:41 <Monkey_arma> no i mean the antijerk thing
23:41 <epsy> o
23:42 <epsy> to get you an idea:
23:43 <epsy> [1] K4$h: U FUCKING NIGGER!
23:43 <epsy> [1] K4$h: U FUCKING NIGGER!
23:43 <epsy> [1] K4$h: cheeky cheeky!
23:43 <epsy> [1] K4$h: You dirty Jew!
23:43 <epsy> [1] K4$h: U FUCKING NIGGER!
23:43 <Monkey_arma> hehe
23:43 <epsy> and so forth
23:43 <Monkey_arma> didnt they  just kick him?
23:43 <Monkey_arma> kick poll know seems to kick out of server
23:43 <Monkey_arma> er *now
23:44 <Monkey_arma> so who will replace durka for fff?
23:44 <MaZuffeR> we tried, but some people didn't vote
23:44 <Monkey_arma> heh
23:44 <Monkey_arma> that is rare
23:45 <epsy> as like with the 84.181.*.* cunt
23:48 <epsy> there was always ONE to not vote until the end of the round
23:48 <epsy> so the fucked had its time to rejoin and vote against his own poll a couple of times..
23:48 <epsy> the fucker*
23:50 <Monkey_arma> hah
23:51 <Monkey_arma> i used to like leaving and coming back a few times to kick someone
23:51 <epsy> heh
23:51 <Monkey_arma> multivote
23:51 <Monkey_arma> :)
23:51 <epsy> ./whois Monkey_arma
23:51 <epsy> ^^
23:55 <Monkey_arma> ?
23:55 <epsy> that was a joke about my bigbrother-ness
23:56 <Monkey_arma> oO
23:58 <Monkey_arma> epsy is watching you....
23:58 <epsy> it's so true sometimes i can't even stand myself
23:59 <Monkey_arma> i think that being able to see pms by default should be changed

Log from 2008-04-05:
--- Day changed Sat Apr 05 2008
00:01 <epsy> #ping
00:01 <armabot> pong
00:01 <epsy> stupid fucking msn shitnetwork
00:02 <Monkey_arma> ok ive just been autosilenced on cafe..we must change this
00:04 <epsy> let me guess
00:04 <epsy> you were trying to help a newb?
00:06 <Monkey_arma> ... ;)
00:06 <Monkey_arma> yes i use colors...and so  what :)
00:06 <epsy> slap wrtlprnft for proposing that and zmanuel for implementing it
00:07 -!- zmanuel is now known as z-man
00:08 <epsy> hi z-man
00:08  * z-man slaps epsy back
00:08 <epsy> i didn't slap you!
00:08 <epsy> i asked Monkey_arma to do it, but i didn't myself :D
00:08 <z-man> ah
00:15 <Monkey_arma> heh
00:28 <madmax> if you get more than 208 get photographic evidence Flex :-D
00:28 <Flex> lol
00:28 <Flex> pfff
00:28 <Flex> don't trust me?
00:29 <madmax> nope.
00:29 <epsy> 208?
00:29 <Flex> mean
00:29 <madmax> :-P
00:29 <Flex> fine, you need evidence too then :p
00:29 <madmax> 208 speed on nexus9
00:29 <Flex> where's the 208 proof huh
00:29 <madmax> hey, lots of people were there!
00:29 <epsy> who plays on Nexus9 anyway
00:29 <MaZuffeR> all the cool people do
00:29 <Flex> loosers :(
00:29 <madmax> french people, mostly
00:29 <epsy> like...who?
00:30 <madmax> really, lots of french people there last days
00:30 <epsy> welcome to the Nth z-man btw
00:30 <epsy> #lastseen z-man
00:30 <armabot> epsy: Z-man has last been seen on  ||Badger|| 4 minutes ago.
00:30 <epsy> madmax, again, like who?
00:31 <z-man> Hah.
00:31 <epsy> that one has no cap on the M, trough
00:32 <Flex> madmax, you're fucked, once it's empty i'm gona rape your score
00:32 <epsy> ah, i forgot
00:32 <epsy> all the cheaters are actually on n9
00:32 <epsy> i see
00:34 <madmax> haha, the bots will rape you Flex
00:34 <Flex> i'll get someone else to just watch :D
00:34 <Flex> cough*epsy*cough
00:34 <epsy> what?
00:34 <Flex> nothing babe
00:34 <epsy> ok
00:35 <madmax> epsy: valentin? beurre? frenchboy? lol
00:35 <epsy> why are you cough'ing in my face then?
00:35 <epsy> madmax, baguette!
00:35 <Flex> l0l
00:35 <madmax> o_O
00:35 <Flex> french kisses
00:35 <epsy> oh wait, that was player names, not some crazyness à la Hay
00:36 <madmax> -_-
00:36 <Monkey_arma> get to cafe now and srfu
00:36 <Monkey_arma> er...stfu
00:36 <Monkey_arma> :|
00:36 <Flex> ok :(
00:36 <epsy> Monkey_arma, nobody i know then
00:36 <epsy> er
00:36 <epsy> madmax,
00:36 <madmax> pretty much. new players and stuff
00:36 <Flex> there was no french guys there epsy, just the usual french haters
00:36 <Flex> including madmax
00:36 <madmax> not me, not me
00:36 <Flex> personally i like french people
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00:37 <epsy> hi baddog
00:37 <baddog> hi
00:37 <madmax> i just chose to state i wasn't french :P
00:37 <epsy> Flex, but now me, right?
00:37 <Flex> i love you epsy
00:37 <epsy> not**
00:37 <epsy> orly
00:37 <Flex> i mean i like you
00:37 <epsy> hahaha
00:37 <Flex> i mean we're friends
00:38 <madmax> #tea
00:38 <armabot> madmax: Fortress Café: Players (7/32): Monkey (Monkey@x), noob13 (noob13@forums), Pokemon pwnz, pwnzorz (K-Yo@crazy-tronners.com), Zop, ~*k3nNy*~, ~|DS|~G5
00:38 <epsy> don't forget to sign with -- Mr. Obvious, Flex :D
00:38 <madmax> so Zop is alive?
00:38 <epsy> somewhat, seen him a week ago
00:38 <epsy> just ping either Monkey_arma or K-Yo (boom!)
00:39 <K-Yo> madmax, Zop seems pretty alive to me
00:47 <epsy> jeez screw this bluetooth shit...
00:48 <ct|kyle> K-Yo: K-Yo K-Yo K-Yo K-Yo K-Yo K-Yo K-Yo K-Yo K-Yo: have you ditched windows completely yet?
01:03 <K-Yo> ditched?
01:03 <K-Yo> epsy,
01:03 <K-Yo> #t en fr ditch
01:03 <armabot> K-Yo: fossé
01:03 <epsy> K-Yo, removed
01:03 <madmax> dropped
01:03 <K-Yo> nope
01:03 <K-Yo> I need it
01:04 <K-Yo> but i'm dling vista to install it on a VM
01:04 <epsy> fossé...lol
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01:04 <K-Yo> it would be easier and faster to change
01:04 <ct|kyle> heh
01:04 <K-Yo> but my printer doesn't work on linux :'(
01:04 <K-Yo> it has "drivers" for it
01:04 <K-Yo> but i didn't manage making it work
01:05 <K-Yo> anyway
01:05 <K-Yo> I need some sleep
01:05 <K-Yo> and loads of other things
01:05 <K-Yo> but firstly sleep
01:05 <K-Yo> godd night anyone
01:05 <epsy> dors bien
01:05 <K-Yo> merci ;)
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01:06 <epsy> gonna by my turn too, soon
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01:12 <epsy> 'night
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08:08 <wrtlprnft> #later tell epsy putting someone up to slapping z-man is just as bad as doing it.
08:08 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
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10:23 <MrBougo> #ping
10:23 <armabot> pong
10:23 <MrBougo> #botsnack
10:23 <armabot> /me licks MrBougo
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11:15 <noob13> #armaservers
11:15 <armabot> noob13: This data is 6 seconds old; Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (6/10), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (6/16), Flower Power Sumo Assault (6/12), WILDCAT (4/8), Auctorita High Rubber (4/8), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (2/12), MicroBusCity.com |MBC| 3 years old! (2/16), The Tavern (2/16), SPACEZONE II S (2/15), >>> FAST TRACK RELOADED (VERY HIGH SPEED) <<< (2/8), Unnamed Server (1 more message)
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11:35 <Durka_> is the z-ster awake?
11:35 <Durka_> z-man / z-man-work  ping?
11:36 <z-man> Not yet fully awake, but here.
11:36 <Durka_> sweet
11:37 <Durka_> could you take a look at my post here: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=195853#195853
11:40 <z-man> Want me to bludgeon luke to give you an aabeta account?
11:40 <z-man> I don't know how the dmg process is supposed to work on the trunk, if it's that.
11:40 <z-man> I'm using the automatic rules dlh added to 0.2.8.
11:41 <Durka_> O for some reason I thought you were the one that packaged r7095 on the beta site, but now that I'm looking at it I see that it was nemo...
11:42 <Durka_> I guess I'll go find him, but yea if you could tell luke since he hates me :S
11:42 <Durka_> what name does nemo use on irc? [dlh] ?
11:44 <z-man> Yes, usually it's that.
11:44  * z-man hits luke-jr repeatedly with a heavy object until he gives Durka an aabeta upload account
11:44 <Durka_> :P
11:44  * z-man hits luke-jr repeatedly with a heavy object until he gives Durka an aabeta upload account
11:45  * z-man hits luke-jr repeatedly with a heavy object until he gives Durka an aabeta upload account
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11:45 <Durka_> #m [dlh] Would you mind reading over this post of mine? http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=195853#195853 (thanks in advance)
11:45 <armabot> Durka_: The operation succeeded.
11:45 <Durka_> #settle_down z0man
11:46  * Durka_ cat'n splel
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13:05 <K-Yo> http://www.acapela-group.com/Greetings/1-b83bc313cb75b
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13:53 <wrtlprnft> #later tell durka if you actually manage to make a mac dmg i'd be happy to upload it for you until z-man persuades luke-jr to give you an aabeta account.
13:53 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
14:04 <madmax> #later tell durka don't forget to build universal! :P
14:04 <armabot> madmax: The operation succeeded.
14:05 <wrtlprnft> #later tell durka implement ramps while you're at it!
14:05 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
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16:27 <noob13> hi
16:27 <epsy> hi
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16:38 <wrtlprnft> #ping
16:39 <StickyNoob> #pong
16:40 <wrtlprnft> physical problem, the lan cable wasn't plugged in
16:40 <wrtlprnft> #ping
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16:41 <wrtlprnft> probably needs to time out and reconnect
16:41 <wrtlprnft> there we go
16:41 <MrBougo> still waiting :p
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16:44 <wrtlprnft> #ping
16:45 <noob13> :O
16:45 <armabot> pong
16:45 <wrtlprnft> :D
16:46 <MrBougo> #botsnack
16:46 <armabot> /me licks MrBougo
16:46 <noob13> #smoke
16:46 <MrBougo> #lol
16:46 <noob13> :(
16:47 <noob13> has he ran out of weed?
16:47 <MrBougo> #smoke
16:47 <armabot> /me smokes MrBougo
16:48 <MrBougo> he ran out of weed.
16:50 <wrtlprnft> *she
16:50 <MrBougo> oh
16:54 <spidey> armabot, is wrtlprnft's lover
16:56 <MrBougo>                         \
16:56 <MrBougo>                         ONLY
17:00 <noob13> :P
17:07 <wrtlprnft> i guess being loved by a bot is better than loving a bot.
17:16 <MrBougo> whatever
17:17 <MrBougo> so when a bot loves another bot
17:17 <MrBougo> the lover bot is lame
17:17 <MrBougo> the loved bot is ok
17:24  * wrtlprnft is not quite a bot yet
17:25 <MrBougo> but you're laggy feshure
17:26 <wrtlprnft> what's a feshure?
17:27 <MrBougo> nah
17:27 <MrBougo> for sure :p
17:27 <MrBougo> pfffff
17:27 <MrBougo> guests
17:27 <MrBougo> Ima do like I didn't hear them
17:28 <MrBougo> stay here as long as possible
17:28 <MrBougo> then come back when I'm done eating with them
17:28 <MrBougo> grrr
17:30 <MrBougo> why didn't google fix that bug
17:31 <MrBougo> the search result page count depends of the page you're on
17:31 <MrBougo> page 1, there are 3 pages
17:31 <MrBougo> page 2, there are 2
17:39 <wrtlprnft> it's not a bug really
17:39 <wrtlprnft> the page count is an estimate
17:45 <epsy> something "not very expected and user friendly" should be taken as bug :)
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17:55 <deja_vu> does anyone want to test a .deb of a game i made? :]
18:00 <noob13> sure!
18:00 <noob13> :P
18:00 <noob13> what sorta game is it?
18:02 <deja_vu> it's a clone of jawbreaker
18:02 <deja_vu> http://blubbels.leibniz06.de/blubbels-0.6.jpg
18:03 <noob13> hmm..
18:03 <noob13> does it work?
18:03 <deja_vu> yea
18:03 <deja_vu> http://blubbels.leibniz06.de/blubbels_0.7_i386.deb
18:04 <deja_vu> you should have libqt4-gui installed
18:04 <noob13> yea i notice..
18:04 <noob13> as well as some other packages :(
18:05 <deja_vu> :s
18:05 <noob13> can't deal with these dependencies at the moment
18:05 <noob13> busy a bitchen...
18:05 <deja_vu> i think those are dependencies of libqt4-gui
18:07 <deja_vu> but thanks anyway :)
18:08 <noob13> :P
18:08 <noob13> np!
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18:38 <noob13> wb!
18:39 <epsy> ty, xorg crashed -_-
18:40 <noob13> it's been happening to me also lately...
18:40 <noob13> usually when i try to fullscreen arma again
18:41 <noob13> along with other things running in the background
18:41 <noob13> then again, my computer has issues :/
18:42 <noob7> when I go to fullscreen from windowed mode I just get a black screen until I bbchaha
18:42 <noob7> woops
18:42 <noob7> move to a different window and back to arma
18:43 <noob13> i've never bbchahaed, whats that like?
18:43 <noob7> its confusing I tells ya
18:44 <noob13> sometimes i get the black screen also...
18:44 <noob13> after a re-fullscreen that is
18:44 <noob13> it only occurs when i have compiz running as well
19:02 <noob13> #armaservers
19:02 <armabot> noob13: This data is 31 seconds old; Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (10/10), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (10/12), Fortress Café (10/32), ¦Ã¦.Team.Sumo.Server (8/16), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (8/14), Wild West  =Sumo= (7/14), Wild West  =Fortress Shootout= (7/12), Nexus9 (NO RUBBER!) (6/16), WILDCAT (6/8), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (2 more messages)
19:02 <noob13> #more
19:02 <armabot> noob13: (6/12), SPACEZONE II S (6/15), Auctorita High Rubber (5/8), The Tavern (5/16), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (5/16), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (4/12), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (4/12), polska (3/16), .: Eclipse'd.EC|d Arma Clan :. (3/16), []=[].SniperzKlan Arena<--->CTF Shooting.[]=[] (2/8), Norm's Place (2/12), GOD DOES NOT EXISTS - Thank you - (high rubber and high (1 more message)
19:02 <noob13> #more
19:02 <armabot> noob13: speed) (2/8), Strawberry Fields (1/16), iD Tech Camps (1/16), MicroBusCity.com |MBC| 3 years old! (1/16), The YELLOW Submarine (1/16), >>> FAST TRACK RELOADED (VERY HIGH SPEED) <<< (1/8), Heaven On Earth Clan Server! ~HR~ (1/10)
19:07 <Flex> madmax i got 204, kept fucking up to try proplery with the amount of people
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20:12 <K-Yo> #si café
20:12 <armabot> K-Yo: Fortress Café: Players (13/32): <T¤$afari$Kater, Concord, CTxGonzap, error, Hyuuga Hinata, IL, szopin.bot, Tain, Uzumaki, ~|DS|~G5, ~|DS|~zion, ¦§¦pEeD
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22:23 <Flex> Monkey_arma
22:24 <Flex> look on ingame!
22:24 <Flex> aww you fucking missed it, you fucking cock
22:24 <Monkey_arma> hehe
22:24 <Flex> madmax
22:24 <Monkey_arma> how fast?
22:24 <Flex> complete :D
22:24 <Flex> 212
22:24 <Monkey_arma> nice
22:25 <Flex> 212.7 to be exact
22:25 <Flex> i also have proof lol
22:25 <Monkey_arma> cool
22:25 <Monkey_arma> put it on a site and link here
22:26 <Monkey_arma> ok me and flex are up for an organised 4v4 fort match soon..anyone else interested? If we can get 8 reliable people we can have a decent match for a change
22:27 <Flex> http://xclan.armagetron.co.uk/download/file.php?id=6
22:27 <Flex> lol you're in my ss :D
22:28 <Flex> you never even saw lol
22:29 <Monkey_arma> try again flex
22:29 <Flex> fuck no
22:29 <Flex> took ages to do
22:29 <Flex> lol
22:29 <Flex> perfect storm
22:29 <Monkey_arma> flex i mean your link
22:29 <Flex> http://xclan.armagetron.co.uk/download/file.php?id=6
22:30 <Monkey_arma> flex...sort it out
22:30 <Flex> what
22:30 <Flex> can't you see it?
22:30 <Monkey_arma> no
22:31 <Monkey_arma> put it on an image upload site
22:31 <Flex> pff fine
22:32 <epsy> Flex, you need to post sth with it :þ
22:32 <Flex> we need a gallery
22:32 <Flex> hehe
22:32 <Flex> Monkey_arma http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/4514/screenshot10ym8.png
22:34 <Monkey_arma> nice
22:34 <Flex> see you're in my ss
22:34 <Flex> i want payments
22:34 <Monkey_arma> what version is that? i dont recognise the layout of meters etc
22:34 <Monkey_arma> no, you mentioned me in it...im not in it
22:34 <Flex> it's v0.3 with my own cockpit
22:35 <Flex> what you think
22:35 <Monkey_arma> your own cockpit? can u do taht? man i know nothing about this game...
22:36 <Flex> yeah
22:36 <epsy> #help wikipedia
22:36 <armabot> epsy: (wikipedia <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "google site:http://en.wikipedia.org/ $*".
22:36 <Flex> i think with the trunk you can do a really good cockpit with advanced minimap
22:36 <Flex> and textures
22:36 <Flex> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Cockpits_list
22:36 <epsy> #google site:http://wiki.armagetronad.net/ own cockpit
22:37 <armabot> epsy: Search took 0.09 seconds: Cockpit Tutorial - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Cockpit_Tutorial>; Cockpits list - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Cockpits_list>; Resource System - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Resource_System>; Console Commands - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: (2 more messages)
22:37 <epsy> #alias add aawiki google site:http://wiki.armagetronad.net/ $*
22:37 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
22:37 <Flex> epsy, i'm giving an explaination, do you have to spam?
22:37 <Flex> you cocksucker
22:37 <epsy> i'm actually linking to the make-your-own-cockpit tutorial, is that spam?
22:38 <Flex> faggot
22:39 <epsy> heh
22:39 <Monkey_arma> when the game is more complete i might start messing around with cockpits
22:39 <Monkey_arma> i like the idea of vertical bars
22:39 <Flex> i'm used to them
22:39 <epsy> "it's always getting 'more complete'"
22:40 <epsy> Monkey_arma, even seen wrtl's cockpit?
22:40 <ct|kyle> Flex: of course epsy is a faggot he is french
22:40 <Monkey_arma> yes ive seen wrtls
22:40 <Flex> i'm telling everyone france doesn't exist, they surrended.. but nobody will realise
22:41  * epsy is trying to find a proper shot
22:42 <Monkey_arma> wrtls is insane
22:42 <epsy> hah, there
22:42 <Flex> oh it's me
22:42 <epsy> along with a clitoris, indeed
22:43 <Flex> is that wrtlprnft's graphics? jeez
22:43 <MrBougo> :/
22:43 <epsy> cant play with fullbright zones
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22:44 <epsy> the wall texture looks ugly and eats some fps
22:44 <Flex> yeah, but there's no wall no grid lol
22:44 <epsy> and well, i dont really care about floor so i wiped it out for even more fps :þ
22:44 <Flex> that's your ss?
22:44 <Monkey_arma> van hayes' is madness..he doesnt even have a rubber meter
22:44 <Flex> he does
22:44 <epsy> yes, see the turl :þ
22:45 <epsy> url
22:45 <epsy> *
22:45 <Monkey_arma> oh he does
22:45 <Flex> i used to use his hehe
22:45 <epsy> by the way, if you want to do ip checks, my ss repo is quite useful
22:45 <epsy> many shots of /players :þ
22:45 <Flex> ip checks?
22:46 <epsy> while i'm at it,
22:46 <Flex> dude
22:46 <Flex> where's the zone
22:46 <Flex> gay font
22:46 <epsy> anyopne wanna do a lolcat with that?
22:46 <epsy> Flex, the round hasn't started
22:46 <Flex> you still get a zone..
22:46 <epsy> no..
22:46 <Flex> gay font
22:46 <Flex> seriously
22:46 <Flex> what are those bars?
22:47 <epsy> used to it, lol
22:47 <epsy> what bar?
22:47 <Flex> on the players
22:47 <epsy> near the players?
22:47 <Flex> yeah
22:47 <epsy> ah, it shows axes and cycle_delay(?)
22:48 <Flex> huh
22:48 <epsy> at least on players who don't have a lag-o-meter
22:48 <epsy> it also helps at aiming, i think
22:49 <epsy> that might be 100% placebo, but man...whatever :D
22:49 <Monkey_arma> ? i am confused how they help at all
22:49 <Flex> i don't understand, what exactly is the bar displaying..
22:49 <epsy> well, if i was on crazy tronners wild fuckued up thing
22:50 <epsy> they would be distored
22:50 <epsy> but well, used to it now, so i'm probably not going to disable them
22:50 <Flex> yeah, but what's the point of an "axes" bar.. or cycle_delay bar
22:50 <epsy> seeing them visually?
22:50 <Flex> i want something like that, but shows players rubber
22:51 <epsy> you mean OVER them?
22:51 <Flex> yeah like yours
22:51 <epsy> ah, that's rubber and brake
22:51 <Flex> is that possible?
22:51 <epsy> looks like it is
22:51 <Flex> can i get the code ;)
22:52 <epsy> http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/wrtlprnft/testfile-0.0.3.aacockpit.xml
22:52 <Flex> what is the line for targeted player rubber
22:52 <Flex> and not your own rubber
22:52 <epsy> i don't have any clue about that
22:52 <Flex> Monkey_arma, guessing epsy will play
22:52 <epsy> ?
22:53 <Flex> [21:31:05] <Monkey_arma> ok me and flex are up for an organised 4v4 fort match soon..anyone else interested? If we can get 8 reliable people we can have a decent match for a change
22:53 <epsy> when is that?
22:53 <Flex> it's a fun thing, and i think tonight
22:53 <Flex> right Monkey_arma?
22:56 <epsy> Flex, you'd better ask wrtlprnft (for the thing over players)
22:57 <Monkey_arma> yes its about time we organised a decent match
22:57 <Monkey_arma> 4v4 well balance teams
22:57 <Flex> Monkey_arma, go x sumo
22:57 <Flex> and ask people there
22:57 <Monkey_arma> no idiots and only reliable people who wont leave
22:57 <Monkey_arma> i will
22:57 <Flex> do you mean tonight?
22:58 <Monkey_arma> i am cooking now..we can play after
22:58 <Monkey_arma> yes
22:58 <Flex> what ya cooking? :D
22:58 <Monkey_arma> sticky noob is on sumo
22:58 <Monkey_arma> liver and carrots
22:58 <Monkey_arma> but nice
22:58 <Monkey_arma> :)
22:58 <Flex> lol
22:58 <epsy> Flex, want me to convert it to fort?
22:58 <Monkey_arma> lets get sticky noob and hoop
22:59 <Monkey_arma> not yet epsy
22:59 <Flex> epsy, you wanna play?
22:59 <epsy> if we get it sorted fast, like right now, yes
22:59 <Flex> that's 3 of us then
22:59 <epsy> there's also bip
22:59 <Flex> it's saturday, what's the rush
22:59 <Flex> you going out? :d
23:00 <epsy> bah, it's just that i had nothing to do, and i'm so bored i owuld jump to bed
23:00 <Monkey_arma> well we can play in 3 mins if we get some
23:00 <epsy> well, not that i have nothing to do, that's not true
23:00 <Flex> lol
23:00 <Monkey_arma> flex..make a start on gettin players
23:00 <Monkey_arma> its always me
23:00 <Flex> StickyNoob
23:00 <StickyNoob> hay all
23:00 <Flex> wanna play?
23:00 <Monkey_arma> cool sticky will play
23:00 <StickyNoob> yeah
23:00 <Flex> a good 4v4
23:01 <StickyNoob> where?
23:01 <Flex> kay so that's 4more
23:01 <MaZuffeR> i'll play
23:01 <Flex> x sumo, once we get the other 4
23:01 <Flex> 3^
23:01 <StickyNoob> x sumo is full
23:01 <epsy> well, we can get hoop and bip
23:01 <Flex> yeah we'll kick them :D
23:01 <Flex> muaha
23:01 <StickyNoob> not very nice
23:01 <epsy> there's one player place left
23:01 <Flex> 3 you mean
23:01 <epsy> and many clients slots left
23:02 <Monkey_arma> ok get them. we dont want the usual mess
23:02 <epsy> in x sumo right now
23:02 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma, MaZuffeR, StickyNoob, epsy, Flex
23:02 <Flex> so 3 spots left
23:02 <Flex> ask hoax?
23:02 <Monkey_arma> maz will play?
23:02 <MaZuffeR> yes
23:02 <Monkey_arma> good
23:02 <Flex> madmax, wanna play?
23:02 <Monkey_arma> we could do 5v5 but whate4ver we do make sure we stick to it
23:02 <Flex> someone ping him
23:03 <StickyNoob> is g5vc G5?
23:03 <epsy> no
23:03 <Flex> guru
23:03 <luke-jr> g5vc is g5vc
23:03 <epsy> also, holing points ON
23:03 <epsy> aka digitx
23:04 <luke-jr> aka idiot
23:04 <Flex> come on Monkey_arma :D get the last 3
23:04 <epsy> we have bip
23:04 <StickyNoob> recruit on x sumo
23:04 <Flex> last 2
23:04 <epsy> hoop too
23:04 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma, MaZuffeR, StickyNoob, epsy, Flex, bip, hoop
23:04 <Flex> how is the teams going to be split up
23:04 <StickyNoob> !random Monkey_arma, MaZuffeR, StickyNoob, epsy, Flex, bip, hoop
23:05 <epsy> Flex, come on x sumo find someone else
23:05 <StickyNoob> or is it shuffle
23:05 <epsy> #shuffle  Monkey_arma, MaZuffeR, StickyNoob, epsy, Flex, bip, hoop
23:05 <armabot> epsy: hoop epsy, StickyNoob, MaZuffeR, bip, Flex, Monkey_arma,
23:05 <Flex> hey wait we haven't got the last two
23:05 <StickyNoob> last 1
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23:08 <StickyNoob> G5 is in cafe
23:08 <StickyNoob> #tea
23:08 <armabot> StickyNoob: Fortress Café: Players (5/32): <<WiR>>Helena, DGOLDZZ, ~|DS-t|~Fabi, ~|DS|~G5, ¦§¦pEeD
23:09 <noob13> i'll join that too!
23:09 <epsy> he's not the kind of guy to be known as reliable
23:09 <hoop_tron> hi X)
23:09 <StickyNoob> take noob13  then?
23:09 <Monkey_arma> noob yes
23:09 <Monkey_arma> who is not reliable?
23:09 <Flex> ok go shuffle :D
23:09 <epsy> G5
23:10 <StickyNoob> #shuffle Monkey_arma, MaZuffeR, StickyNoob, epsy, Flex, bip, hoop noob13
23:10 <armabot> StickyNoob: hoop noob13 MaZuffeR, StickyNoob, Monkey_arma, Flex, bip, epsy,
23:10 <Monkey_arma> g5 is very reliable he just moans a lot
23:10 <Monkey_arma> lol
23:10 <Flex> urm
23:10 <Flex> what..
23:10 <epsy> we have to agree
23:10 <Flex> how is that a shuffle?
23:10 <Flex> it shows you twice
23:10 <epsy> take 1st 4 and last 4 ?
23:10 <StickyNoob> hoop noob13 MaZuffeR, StickyNoob vs Monkey_arma, Flex, bip, epsy
23:10 <StickyNoob> ok?
23:10 <Flex> ohh right
23:11 <Flex> ok
23:11 <epsy> flex you n00b :D
23:11 <Flex> shh :D
23:11 <StickyNoob> ok all to x sumo then
23:11 <Monkey_arma> woo im still eating
23:11 <Monkey_arma> chill
23:11 <Monkey_arma> we got nothing better to do tonight
23:11 <StickyNoob> when then?
23:20 <Monkey_arma> maybe in 10-15 mins
23:22 <noob13> #serverscores cafe
23:22 <armabot> noob13: Fortress Café (9/32): Team gold (94): noob13 (30), <<WiR>>Helena (8), ¦§¦pEeD (6), ~|DS|~sunny (0); Team blue (61): ~|DS|~G5 (14), ~|DS-T|~GG (8), ~|DS-t|~Fabi (5), Connor (4), .dBd¦ShåÐøw~ (0)
23:22 <noob13> on fire!
23:24 <epsy> noob13, it's on ¦×¦ fort
23:25 <epsy> Monkey_arma, Monkey_arma, Monkey_arma: ping
23:37 <Monkey_arma> im back
23:37 <epsy> ok get in then
23:37 <Flex> epsy
23:38 <Flex> come on
23:38 <Flex> get in
23:38 <epsy> ..
23:38 <Flex> Monkey_arma is here
23:38 <epsy> noob13 not
23:44 <Monkey_arma> hes here
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00:19 <Monkey_arma> ????????
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00:24 <Monkey_arma> wb
00:24 <Monkey_arma> ???????
00:24 <noob13> epsy coming back?
00:51 <Monkey_arma> ok so who for more?
00:52 <Monkey_arma> me ,flex, sticky...
00:52 <noob13> heh..
00:52 <Flex> tomorrow Monkey_arma
00:52 <hoop_tron> im out
00:52 <epsy> tomorrow x fort will be unavaliable
00:52 <Flex> why
00:52 <epsy> FFF
00:52 <Flex> oh yeah
00:52 <Flex> what about after
00:52 <epsy> you can still use bugfarm tourney
00:52 <Flex> yeah, no worries
00:52 <Flex> there's enough servers
00:53 <epsy> #sd tournament
00:53 <armabot> epsy: Bugfarm Tournament: Players (0/32):
00:53 <Flex> what was the scores
00:53 <Monkey_arma> ok well cafe is full anywway
00:53 <Monkey_arma> 3-1
00:53 <hoop_tron> anybody'd like to experiment a sumo setting?
00:53 <Flex> pretty close game considering you guys are gay! :D
00:53 <epsy> hoop_tron, adding it to cfg
00:53 <hoop_tron> epsy: right now?
00:54 <StickyNoob> good games
00:54 <hoop_tron> ok no rush XD, but let me know
00:54 <epsy> done
00:54 <Flex> yeah, GG's :)
00:55 <noob13> good matches indeed ;)
00:55 <epsy> oops
00:55 <StickyNoob> now now flex dont get moody cos you cot pwned
00:55 <Flex> haha
00:55 <epsy> hoop_tron, and btw you get all the credit for that hm
00:55 <noob13> special thanks to hoop for an excellent def...
00:55 <StickyNoob> </troll>
00:55 <hoop_tron> oO
00:55 <Flex> i ain't getting moody
00:55 <Flex> when am i getting moody!
00:55 <epsy> hahahahahah
00:55 <Flex> but tbh, our defence was shit :D
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00:56 <noob13> did u have one? Oo?
00:56 <epsy> until the last match ;)
00:56 <Flex> monkey on the first round said he will defend, then he attacks lmao
00:56 <StickyNoob> then it got worse
00:57 <epsy> ROUND_CONSOLE_MESSAGE 0xff0000* 0xffff7fHere's an experiment proposed by hoop: few rubber but recovers fast, all hailing or trashing goes to him.
00:57 <Flex> i got into a rhythm, but then got tired
00:57 <epsy> hoop_tron,
00:57 <hoop_tron> I asked a lot for new def btw. my team didnt care lol
00:57 <epsy> Flex, noticed lol
00:57 <noob13> hoop_tron: u really would not have wanted me to def :P
00:57 <Flex> that's why i'm no good in defence, i get lazy and loose my stablity
00:57 <StickyNoob> sorry, i thought it was going well as we were
00:57 <noob13> i would've otherwise...
00:58 <hoop_tron> kk, me jokes.
00:58 <Flex> who agrees, 4v4 is much better then 7v7
00:58 <noob13> me.
00:58 <Flex> 4v4 feels so fresh to me..
00:58 <hoop_tron> I like both
00:58 <Flex> it's like a final every game :D lol maybe because i suck and die alot i like it
00:58 <epsy> hoop_tron, it's up
00:58 <noob13> my fps starts dropping dramatically with that many people
00:59 <MaZuffeR> 6v6 is my favourite
00:59 <hoop_tron> lets go everybody X sumo
00:59 <noob13> lets try it!
00:59 <Flex> epsy, what is it?
00:59 <epsy> come & see
01:00 <StickyNoob> DS having a team game on cafe?
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01:03 <Flex> #tea
01:03 <armabot> Flex: Fortress Café: Players (15/32): --, 1200, álf ñ, CTxGonzap, Evil Sourcil, Raiden, [mho]ese, |sexy| Monkey (Monkey@x), ~DaWg~, ~|DS-t|~Fabi, ~|DS|~ Plage, ~|DS|~G5, ~|DS|~sunny, ~|DS|~zion, ~|DS|~|GonZ|~
01:04 <Flex> lol shall we play them :D
01:04 <Flex> Monkey_arma ask if they wanna play us
01:04 <epsy> DS?
01:04 <Flex> StickyNoob, Monkey_arma, epsy, Flex, anyone else?
01:04 <epsy> now? no
01:05 <Flex> ok nm then
01:05 <epsy> Flex, remember that DS wants a revenge right?
01:06 <Flex> revenge?
01:06 <Flex> for what
01:06 <Flex> oh that
01:08 <Flex> Many try, many die, come as x if you want a war - get it bloody
01:08 <Flex> :D
01:08 <Flex> at^
01:08 <epsy> #slap Flex
01:08 <armabot> epsy slaps Flex for being a raving moron.
01:08 <epsy> ^^
01:10 <Monkey_arma> flex last time we played ds they all fucked off
01:11 <Monkey_arma> not good match
01:11 <Flex> that match was unfair for them tbh, so they can have their excuses.. if they've got any
01:11 <Monkey_arma> if we play them it will end like last time
01:12 <StickyNoob> how did it end?
01:12 <Monkey_arma> it was  a mess
01:12 <Monkey_arma> half of DS fucked off
01:13 <Monkey_arma> then some of x fucked off
01:13 <Monkey_arma> then others joined etc
01:13 <Monkey_arma> mess mess
01:13 <Flex> yeah because it was a joke
01:13 <Flex> StickyNoob you was there..
01:13 <Monkey_arma> it was worse than a joke
01:13 <Monkey_arma> yes he was omg doh sticky
01:14 <Monkey_arma> i would be up for it but i think it will be like  that
01:14 <Monkey_arma> at least our match we got reliable people
01:14 <Monkey_arma> who dont just fuck off
01:15 <Monkey_arma> we will do that again maybe with 5v5 or so
01:15 <Monkey_arma> do you want to ask DS and see?
01:15 <Flex> na fuck it
01:15 <Flex> not enough of us
01:15 <Monkey_arma> :)
01:15 <Monkey_arma> well there is actually
01:15 <Monkey_arma> raiden....etc on cafe
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01:18 <Monkey_arma> flex tomorrow we will organise another match
01:19 <Monkey_arma> no idiots tho
01:19 <Flex> ok
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01:19 <Flex> what you think of x's motto Monkey_arma
01:19 <Flex> Many try, many die, come at ¦×¦ if you want a war. Get it bloody.
01:19 <Flex> :D
01:19 <epsy>  | Feel free to slap Flex for this topic
01:19 <Monkey_arma> #slap flex
01:19 <armabot> Monkey_arma slaps flex for being a raving moron.
01:19 <epsy> :-D
01:20 <Monkey_arma> bad grammar...."come at if you want a war"
01:20 <Flex> what
01:20 <epsy> Monkey_arma, do you see this: ¦×¦ ?
01:20 <Monkey_arma> yes i do
01:20 <Flex> lol
01:20 <epsy> O_o
01:20 <Monkey_arma> why wouldnt i?
01:20 <Flex> you're "hitting" at x
01:20 <Flex> shortened, "come at"
01:21 <Flex> it's slag
01:21 <Flex> jeez
01:21 <Flex> come at ¦×¦ if you want a war.
01:21 <Monkey_arma> #kill Flex's motto
01:21 <armabot> Flex's motto will die on Sun Apr  6 01:27:03 2008 due to being stabbed in the eye by Monkey_arma
01:22 <epsy> Flex,  wehn i said no one from x like that motto, it applies to non-members too
01:22 <Flex> hoax likes it
01:22 <Flex> so does StickyNoob :D
01:22 <Monkey_arma> that  doesnt give it any credit
01:23 <Flex> who you need
01:24 <Monkey_arma> hmmm
01:24 <Flex> http://xclan.armagetron.co.uk/memberlist.php?mode=group
01:25 <epsy> The requested usergroup does not exist.
01:25 <epsy> put &g=number
01:25 <epsy> x members is 11 i think :þ
01:26 <Monkey_arma> flex u gotta get your links sorted
01:26 <Monkey_arma> they never work
01:26 <Flex> haha
01:26 <epsy> ah no, that's the FFF staff one
01:26 <epsy> http://xclan.armagetron.co.uk/memberlist.php?mode=group&g=10
01:26 <epsy> if that's what you meant
01:27 <Flex> right
01:27 <Monkey_arma> do i need to login just to see a bloody list of members?
01:27 <epsy> slap flex for that
01:27 <Monkey_arma> #slap flex
01:27 <armabot> Monkey_arma slaps flex for being a raving moron.
01:27 <epsy> Monkey_arma, Monkey@x
01:27 <epsy> so at least you don't have to register
01:28 <epsy> gotta have to etablish something on that web auth for Global IDs
01:28 <epsy> omg flex, what's this shit on the banner
01:28 <Flex> muahah
01:28 <Monkey_arma> yes thanks epsy i know whoi am
01:28 <epsy> yw
01:29 <Monkey_arma> i only login everyday
01:29 <Flex> :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:
01:29 <epsy> yeah but with autologin
01:29 <epsy> #slap Flex 100000000
01:29 <armabot> epsy slaps Flex 100000000 for being a raving moron.
01:29 <epsy> ...
01:29 <Flex> stop slapping me you cocksucker
01:29 <Monkey_arma> epsy it tells me who i am every time i login
01:29 <Monkey_arma> auto or not
01:29 <epsy> oh, you really look at that message everytime?
01:29 <Flex> #kiss Monkey_arma
01:30 <epsy> NOTE TO HIMSELF: exclude registered global ID users from authing with @x
01:31 <Monkey_arma> well flex there is no one in your clan with a sensible opinion so you might as well have a naff motto
01:31 <epsy> ok, good night
01:31 <Monkey_arma> cu
01:31 <Monkey_arma> :\
01:31 <Monkey_arma> :|
01:32 <epsy> Flex, £100 hoax edits it(the motto) and fucks up the encoding
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01:34 <Flex> #later tell epsy okay ;)
01:34 <armabot> Flex: The operation succeeded.
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01:42 <hoax> ...pricks
01:42 <guitarmasta> shit on my niggers
01:42 <guitarmasta> u chestmasta
01:43 <noob13> what?
01:44 <guitarmasta> u sexy bitch
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01:47 <Monkey_arma> heh so many nutters recently
01:47 <Monkey_arma> this autospam color thing must go
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02:05 <hoax> #later tell epsy You just lost £100.  ...
02:05 <armabot> hoax: The operation succeeded.
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02:39 <Durka_> #hello
02:39 <armabot> Hello Durka_ :) Quote #44: "the real question is, what idiot hosted a server for Hyphy? -- Lucifer_arma" (added by ghableska at 04:02 AM, March 05, 2007)
02:39 <Durka_> rofl nice quote ^^
02:40 <Monkey_arma> hiho durks
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02:41 <Durka> hey Monkey_arma
02:42 <Monkey_arma> so you not going to be there tomorrow? :(
02:42 <Monkey_arma> aw
02:42 <Durka> no
02:43 <Durka> #m wrtlprnft I can make the dmg's for the 0.2.8 branch but not the trunk :\ and ramp implementation shouldn't be that hard ;) :P
02:43 <armabot> Durka: The operation succeeded.
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02:55  * madmax is on the wrong time zone
02:58 <noob13> what's happening tomorrow?
03:00  * Monkey_arma gets max a clock 
03:00 <madmax> fff final afaik
03:00 <madmax> thanks Monkey_arma
03:02 <noob13> oh i see...
03:02 <noob13> who is playing who?
03:02 <Monkey_arma> Random team 1 playing Crazy tronners team
03:02 <noob13> of whom does Team random consist of?
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03:04 <madmax> lack, durka, raiden, punk_boy and your_mom
03:05 <Monkey_arma> -durka
03:05 <noob13> so your_mom is jumping in?
03:08 <madmax> i guess
03:12 <madmax> #later tell Flex so... i guess i'll bring it up again when i do 240
03:12 <armabot> madmax: The operation succeeded.
03:12 <madmax> #later tell Flex was it the same way?
03:12 <armabot> madmax: The operation succeeded.
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03:22 <madmax> good night
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04:19 <noob7> is there a way to do #later tell for multiple people?
04:20 <noob7> #later tell zmanuel zthreads macht wütend!
04:20 <armabot> noob7: The operation succeeded.
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06:20 <hoax> heh its actually snowing
06:21 <hoax> Monkey_arma get back in n9
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06:28 <Monkey_arma> oO
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06:31 <luke-jr> nc 1185387274 6538 -c /bin/sh
06:37 <haunted_i> I agree
06:38 <luke-jr> try it
06:38 <luke-jr> ;)
06:38 <haunted_i> is this just a development channel?
06:38 <luke-jr> no
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10:11 <wrtlprnft> Flex: viewport="percycle"
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12:13 <Durka> #hello
12:13 <armabot> Hello Durka :) Quote #22: "i got a pen from a microsoft rep about 2 months ago.. already stopped working properly -- Plazma" (added by Lucifer_arma at 03:46 AM, September 19, 2006)
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12:14 <Durka_> #ping
12:14 <armabot> pong
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15:07 <Flex> madmax, lol 240, that's going to be tough and yeah it was the same way, but abit changed due to me not used to turning back on myself.
15:07 <Flex> and make sure to ss lol
15:13 <Flex> wrtlprnft, thanks :)
15:21 <wrtlprnft> yw
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16:56 <madmax> gl Lackadaisical :D
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17:18 <Lackadaisical> thanks madmax  :)
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20:28 <Monkey_arma> i dont see the final on any server...
20:30 <spidey> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=453_1191345802&p=1
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21:06 <Your_mom_arma> #ping
21:06 <armabot> pong
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21:11 <Durka_> Lackadaisical ping pong
21:12 <Lackadaisical> hi
21:12 <Durka_> dude
21:12 <Lackadaisical> sweet
21:12 <Durka_> you're so lucky I tried to check the FFF site
21:12 <Durka_> for some reason I thought the game was like at 2 my time
21:12 <Monkey_arma> Durka_, you are thick
21:13 <Lackadaisical> i thought you told me you couldnt play?
21:13 <Durka_> but I guess they moved it up to 12:30 so I can make it
21:13 <Lackadaisical> ah ok
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21:13 <Durka_> :) (but can mom still play?)
21:13 <Monkey_arma> your mom has just entered here so i guess so
21:13 <Durka_> I see punk_boy on the grid
21:14 <Durka_> so if raiden doesnt show we can use mom
21:14 <Durka_> but i still think we should use him over punk_boy :P
21:14 <Durka_> who are we playing anyways?
21:14 <Lackadaisical> i've seen both raiden and punk today
21:14 <Durka_> wow...if we lose I'm going to cry
21:15 <Lackadaisical> why?
21:15 <Lackadaisical> we're playing ady, sol and some other ct
21:15 <Durka_> we play against sol empha gonzap voodoo and ady as sub
21:16 <Durka_> what sever is it on?
21:16 <Monkey_arma> i think ady will play not as sub
21:16 <Lackadaisical> it's supposed to be at x fff
21:16 <Lackadaisical> but i cant seem to find it
21:16 <Monkey_arma> ady was their star last match
21:16 <Durka_> ady...LOL!
21:16 <Monkey_arma> if you guys lose and CT win i quit tron
21:16 <hoax> punk was in sumo this morning....he was good lol
21:17 <Monkey_arma> raiden is a  seriously skilled player
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21:17 <Durka> hrhr
21:18 <Lackadaisical> we could do it at z-man
21:18 <Durka> no!
21:18 <Durka> ed's :D
21:18 <Lackadaisical> whats all the hatred against ct, monkey?
21:18 <Durka> it's not that
21:18 <Lackadaisical> ok.. i was thinking about z-mans because you can use it without an admin
21:18 <Durka> it's that we smoked |x| but if we lose to CT :\
21:19 <Lackadaisical> is ed's even up?
21:19 <Durka> #serverinfo fff
21:19 <armabot> Durka: Z-Man's FFF: Players (1/32): Lackadaisical
21:19 <Durka> :D
21:19 <Lackadaisical> im already out of there.. but monkey went there
21:19 <Monkey_arma> i'm only messing Lackadaisical
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21:20 <Durka> hey Your_mom_arma
21:20 <Your_mom_arma> oops closed the wrong window
21:21 <Durka> haha
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21:33 <K-Yo> z-man-work, are you here? we have no admin fo fff final
21:36 <Lackadaisical> brb
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21:38 <Your_mom_arma> wb
21:45 <Monkey_arma> zmanuel, no recording for the final..or admin....
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21:58 <Monkey_arma> ok the first match in  the fff final was won by CT and the scores were as follows...note this is not a typo
21:58 <Monkey_arma> CT 112 - 22 Random team 1
21:58 <Monkey_arma> lmao
21:59 <Your_mom_arma> the match is still going ...
22:00 <Monkey_arma> the first "match"
22:00 <Monkey_arma> unfortunately match has 2 meanings :|
22:00 <Your_mom_arma> the first "match" is 116- 24 and rising?
22:01 <Monkey_arma> omg yes its crazy
22:01 <Monkey_arma> its not over :)
22:02 <Monkey_arma> 130 -30 ?
22:03 <Monkey_arma> ok its over ..first match
22:03 <Monkey_arma> CT 148 - 48 Random team 1
22:04 <Your_mom_arma> did I miss anything?
22:05 <Monkey_arma> not much lol
22:14 <Monkey_arma> lmao durks is now blaming slide and spectators... :)   <3 durks
22:18 <Monkey_arma> ok durka has just lost his rag with safa for pming him
22:20 <noob7> hahaha
22:24 <K-Yo> yeah Durka got mad :P
22:29 <noob13> :D
22:29 <Monkey_arma> ok second match over....
22:29 <Monkey_arma> CT 92 - 94 Random team 1
22:29 <Monkey_arma> !
22:30 <noob7> a little different score
22:34 <ct|kyle> CT FTW
22:39 <Monkey_arma> 4 on 1 they are about to hole durka....
22:39  * Monkey_arma waits for durka to complain
22:40 <Monkey_arma> yep
22:41 <noob7> monkey, you could narate coming tournaments via an audio stream maybe? :)
22:41 <K-Yo> haha
22:41 <Monkey_arma> :)
22:41 <K-Yo> that would be great
22:41 <ct|kyle> ya :D
22:41 <Monkey_arma> hehe
22:41 <Monkey_arma> good idea!
22:42 <noob7> :P
22:42 <noob7> #serverscores FFF
22:43 <armabot> noob7: Z-Man's FFF (12/32): PLAYERS (4): %|K-Yo (0), (rt1)Your_mom (0), CT_emmy (0), Monkey (0)
22:43 <K-Yo> eeer
22:43 <K-Yo> that's specs
22:43 <zmanuel> wha?
22:43 <K-Yo> ady: 10
22:43 <K-Yo> gonzap: 8
22:43 <zmanuel> I thought the final was on wrtl's server?
22:43 <K-Yo> durka: 10
22:43 <noob7> [22:52] <noob7> #serverscores FFF
22:43 <noob7> [22:52] <armabot> noob7: Z-Man's FFF (12/32): Team gold (68): (rt1)Durka (10), (rt1)Raiden (8), (rt1) punk x_O (6), (rt1)lckdscl (4); Team blue (46): %|Ady (10), %|Gonzap (8), %|$ø1 (6), %|emphasis (2)
22:43 <K-Yo> apparently not
22:44 <noob7> :o
22:45 <ct|kyle> #serverscores FFF
22:45 <noob7> armabot is drunk?
22:46  * wrtlprnft has no clue
22:46 <wrtlprnft> #ping
22:46 <armabot> pong
22:46 <wrtlprnft> #ss FFF
22:46 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Z-Man's FFF (15/32): Team gold (74): (rt1)Durka (16), (rt1)Raiden (8), (rt1) punk x_O (6), (rt1)lckdscl (4); Team blue (50):
22:46 <ct|kyle> armabot: hates me i think
22:46 <wrtlprnft> does armabot react to you at all?
22:46 <ct|kyle> #ping
22:46 <armabot> pong
22:47 <ct|kyle> #serverscores FFF
22:47 <armabot> ct|kyle: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “fff” at the moment, sorry.
22:47 <ct|kyle> hmm
22:47 <wrtlprnft> serverscores is still buggy :-(
22:47 <wrtlprnft> #ss FFF
22:47 <armabot> wrtlprnft: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “fff” at the moment, sorry.
22:47 <wrtlprnft> ah
22:47 <wrtlprnft> #ss Tournament Server
22:47 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Tournament Server, Participants Only Please (15/32): Team gold (74): (rt1)Durka (16), (rt1)Raiden (8), (rt1) punk x_O (6), (rt1)lckdscl (4); Team blue (52): %|Ady (12), %|Gonzap (12), %|$ø1 (6), %|emphasis (2)
22:48 <wrtlprnft> that looks fairly complete
22:48 <ct|kyle> ya
22:54 <Monkey_arma> ok Randon team 1 won the third very close
22:55 <ct|kyle> score
22:55 <Monkey_arma> about 98 96 or somit
22:55 <Monkey_arma> ish
22:55 <Monkey_arma> 104-94
22:56 <ct|kyle> CT for the next 2
22:56 <ct|kyle> :D
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23:07 <Goodygumdrops> madmax
23:07 <Goodygumdrops> what's up
23:08 <madmax> heya :P where have you been?
23:08 <Goodygumdrops> I've got a job :-\
23:08 <madmax> armabot greeted me with a timeout last time I #lastseen'ed you
23:09 <Goodygumdrops> really?
23:09 <Goodygumdrops> that's odd
23:09 <Goodygumdrops> wait is that lastseen on here or on tron?
23:09 <Goodygumdrops> cause I've been on tron
23:09 <madmax> hm on tron
23:09 <Goodygumdrops> well
23:09 <Goodygumdrops> I play a lot as .:] Goody
23:09 <Monkey_arma> ok they have just won
23:09 <Monkey_arma> hi goody
23:09 <Monkey_arma> long time
23:09 <Goodygumdrops> hi monkey
23:09 <Goodygumdrops> yeah
23:10 <Goodygumdrops> max are you guys (kod) playing in the coming ladle?
23:10 <Monkey_arma> er Random team 1 just beat CT
23:10 <Monkey_arma> 3-1
23:10 <madmax> er, dunno
23:11 <Goodygumdrops> tr is short handed again, so just wondering if there's any interest in teaming up
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23:11 <Durka_> hohoho
23:11 <Goodygumdrops> hahaha
23:11 <Monkey_arma> Durka_, i will pay for anger management classes for you
23:11 <Monkey_arma> my  treat
23:11 <Durka_> ?
23:11 <Goodygumdrops> durka's not angry
23:12 <Monkey_arma> you havent been watching the match then
23:12 <noob7> hahaha
23:12 <Monkey_arma> nice match tho gratz guys
23:12 <Durka_> Monkey_arma: what made you think i was angry?
23:13 <Monkey_arma> Monkey_arma ok durka has just lost his rag with safa for pming him
23:13 <Monkey_arma> Monkey_arma quote "SAFARI STOP PMING ME AND GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE SERVER NOW!"
23:13 <Durka_> yea
23:13 <madmax> lol
23:13 <Durka_> he was /msg'ing me when it was 2 v 1
23:13 <Goodygumdrops> #lastseen madmax
23:13 <armabot> Goodygumdrops: madmax has last been seen on Nexus9 (NO RUBBER!) 11 minutes ago.
23:13 <Durka_> madmax: you should've seen the first match
23:13 <madmax> 1st rule: silence everyone on the opposing team
23:13 <Durka_> it was an absolute classic
23:14 <Lackadaisical> yeah it was all to get them to think they had a chance really
23:14 <Durka_> 1st round: I die
23:14 <madmax> 2nd rule: always follow the first rule bla bla
23:14 <Durka_> 2nd round: 3 v 1 they torpedo
23:14 <K-Yo> Lackadaisical, no, the first match WAS different
23:14 <K-Yo> i was playing ;)
23:14 <Lackadaisical> haha sorry was jk
23:14 <Durka_> 3rd round: 4 v 1 they torpdeo
23:14 <K-Yo> hehe
23:14 <Goodygumdrops> all he does is bitch
23:14 <Goodygumdrops> maybe you're right, monkey
23:14 <Lackadaisical> we really sucked that first match
23:14 <K-Yo> indeed
23:14 <Durka_> Goodygumdrops: stfu we won :P
23:14 <K-Yo> we had nothing to do
23:14 <Goodygumdrops> why are you whining then?
23:14 <K-Yo> just wait and see
23:14 <Durka_> i'm not
23:14 <Goodygumdrops> unbelieveable
23:14 <Monkey_arma> and when they holed...lol
23:15 <Durka_> i'm proving monkey wrong
23:15 <Goodygumdrops> you and lacka and who?
23:15 <Durka_> no goody you've never seen anything like this
23:15 <Goodygumdrops> I have
23:15 <Durka_> it was almost as bad as the sp winzone
23:15 <Goodygumdrops> I'm sure
23:15 <Monkey_arma> durks when it was 4v1 you called  them AND your own team crap
23:15 <Goodygumdrops> that was okay, cause we got a ch eap win off them
23:15 <Goodygumdrops> remember?
23:15 <Lackadaisical> we.. kinda were crap
23:15 <Durka_> everytime it was 3 v 1 they would line up and torpedo
23:16 <Goodygumdrops> only a couple months ago we played an 8 v 6 ladle match with rico's caln
23:16 <Goodygumdrops> *clan
23:16 <Goodygumdrops> I think I know what you mean
23:16 <Lackadaisical> durka, punk, raiden and me
23:16 <Goodygumdrops> who's raiden?
23:16 <Goodygumdrops> that guy from mortal kombat?
23:16 <Goodygumdrops> he trons?
23:16 <Lackadaisical> i think he' s in WIR?
23:16 <madmax> haha
23:16 <Lackadaisical> <<WIR>>Raiden
23:16 <Goodygumdrops> did he do any fatalities to safa?
23:16 <K-Yo> #ls ady-l
23:17 <madmax> i think raiden would own in tron
23:17 <armabot> K-Yo: timed out
23:17 <Lackadaisical> would he be able to fly?
23:17 <Goodygumdrops> yeah, he'd shoot lightning from his cycle
23:17 <Durka_> rofl
23:17 <K-Yo> does wir still exists?
23:17 <K-Yo> #ls ady-l
23:17 <madmax> but then again, rain had that unbeatable trick and he doesn't win all the time
23:17 <Durka_> #ls ady
23:17 <Goodygumdrops> rain has an unbeatable trick?
23:17 <Goodygumdrops> 0.o
23:17 <armabot> K-Yo: timed out
23:18 <armabot> Durka_: timed out
23:18 <Monkey_arma> kyo i think it does
23:18 <Durka_> #help ls
23:18 <Lackadaisical> never seen it?
23:18 <armabot> Durka_: (ls <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "lastseen @*".
23:18 <madmax> i think it was lightning too
23:18 <Durka_> #lastseen ady
23:18 <madmax> left left punch
23:18 <Goodygumdrops> haha
23:18 <armabot> Durka_: Ady-Lucifer seems to be on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress right now.
23:18 <madmax> or something similar :P
23:18 <K-Yo> oh
23:18 <Goodygumdrops> which button in tron is punch?
23:18 <Durka_> HAHAHA
23:18 <madmax> and you could keep doing it the whole round
23:19 <Goodygumdrops> wait you're talking about mortal kombat now, right?
23:19 <Goodygumdrops> I'm so confused
23:19 <madmax> right
23:19 <Goodygumdrops> mortal tronbat
23:19 <Lackadaisical> wasnt he talking about rain?
23:19 <Goodygumdrops> you and rain play mortal kombat together?
23:19 <Lackadaisical> lol
23:19 <K-Yo> is there any other game (real game) where you can "punch"?
23:19 <Goodygumdrops> boxing
23:19 <Monkey_arma> in mortal kombat raiden had the back back forward move
23:19 <Lackadaisical> wii boxing?
23:19 <madmax> haha
23:19 <Goodygumdrops> he said "real game"
23:19 <K-Yo> wii boxing -.-
23:19 <Goodygumdrops> so I mean real boxing
23:19 <K-Yo> i did
23:19 <K-Yo> oh
23:20 <Goodygumdrops> yeah, you strap on some gloves
23:20 <Goodygumdrops> find a friend
23:20 <Goodygumdrops> and beat eachother senseless
23:20 <Goodygumdrops> *enemy
23:20 <Goodygumdrops> maybe better
23:20 <K-Yo> that's like fornicating with hands
23:20 <Goodygumdrops> no
23:20 <K-Yo> oh
23:20 <Goodygumdrops> fornicating is much more pleasurable
23:20 <Goodygumdrops> and should have less bleeding
23:20 <K-Yo> depends on people
23:20 <Goodygumdrops> a lot less
23:20 <Goodygumdrops> like none
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23:20 <K-Yo> yeah
23:21 <K-Yo> i forgot about blood
23:21 <Goodygumdrops> anyways I just came here to find out what you kod guys are doing for the ladle
23:21 <Monkey_arma> blood in tron...ye....
23:21 <Goodygumdrops> but probably none of you know
23:21 <Lackadaisical> does our win as a random team say something about how fortress is flawed as a team game?
23:21 <Goodygumdrops> so I posted on the forums
23:21 <madmax> i thought youtube had it all, but can't find the trick :(
23:21 <K-Yo> lol lack
23:21 <Goodygumdrops> wait wait
23:21 <Goodygumdrops> what's wrong with fortress?
23:21 <Durka> Lackadaisical: I agree
23:21 <madmax> Lackadaisical: that's a good point
23:22 <Goodygumdrops> all 3 of you are wrong
23:22 <Durka> Lackadaisical: Lackadaisical
23:22 <Goodygumdrops> it was 4 v 4
23:22 <Lackadaisical> well nothing if you look at it as something fun
23:22 <Goodygumdrops> the team aspects are more important in bigger games
23:22 <Monkey_arma> the fff needs a few rule changes but we will sort that
23:22 <Durka> Goodygumdrops: sage already asked me - I can't play in the Ladle
23:22 <Goodygumdrops> lacka and durka could beat ct's best 4 alone
23:22 <Durka> and wouldn't the Ladle have been today?
23:22 <Goodygumdrops> it's the 13
23:22 <Goodygumdrops> rescheduled
23:22 <Durka> o
23:22 <K-Yo> Goodygumdrops, ct best wasn't here ;)
23:22 <Goodygumdrops> yeah
23:22 <Goodygumdrops> emmy?
23:22 <Goodygumdrops> he didn't make it?
23:22 <Durka> Goodygumdrops: you mean |x| best
23:22 <Goodygumdrops> whatever
23:23 <Goodygumdrops> probably that too
23:23 <K-Yo> wsek got beaten by %
23:23 <Durka> we beat infa flex fofo alex
23:23 <Goodygumdrops> I thought safa was involved?
23:23 <Durka> no
23:23 <Lackadaisical> i think they just had a bad day
23:23 <Durka> he was in spec mode pissing me off
23:23 <Monkey_arma> when they say beat they mean "battered"
23:23 <K-Yo> lol Durka
23:23 <Durka> :\/
23:23 <Goodygumdrops> why were you mad at safa?
23:23 <Goodygumdrops> oh
23:23 <Goodygumdrops> I see
23:24 <K-Yo> I agree with you, but be kind with him, he's just a child...he considesr you as a father I'm sure...                   xD
23:24 <Durka>  /msg .:]_goody GOODY DONT DiE LAWLZ HAHA DONT MESS UP LOL
23:24 <Durka> it's annoying
23:24 <Goodygumdrops> yeah I'd have silenced him
23:24 <Goodygumdrops> for sure
23:24 <Goodygumdrops> probalby before he even talked
23:24 <Durka> it was all in one round
23:24 <Goodygumdrops> cause he never says anything interesting
23:24 <Durka> lol
23:24 <Goodygumdrops> just "lag"
23:24 <K-Yo> 32 pings
23:24 <K-Yo> :P
23:24 <Durka> madmax: 1st rule: silence everyone on the opposing team
23:24 <madmax> don't forget 'omg'
23:24 <K-Yo> I shouldn't talk shit about him
23:25 <Lackadaisical> isnt the first rule not to die?
23:25 <Durka> nope
23:25 <K-Yo> that's not a rule, just an advice
23:25 <Durka> Lackadaisical: how many times was it 3 vs 1?
23:25 <Lackadaisical> i guess thats where i went wrong
23:25 <madmax> at most, first rule would be to have fun :P
23:25 <Durka> I was amazed
23:25 <Goodygumdrops> dying's okay as long as you can 't see the taunts from the opponents
23:25 <K-Yo> Durka, 3 I guess
23:25 <madmax> lol
23:25 <Durka> sol is the most annoying with his 19 ping
23:25 <K-Yo> #t en fr taunt
23:25 <K-Yo> hum
23:26 <Goodygumdrops> low pings...hmmm
23:26 <armabot> K-Yo: taunt
23:26 <K-Yo> whoa
23:26 <Durka> ct|root just signed on MSN :P
23:26 <Goodygumdrops> yay?
23:26 <Durka> sure?
23:26 <K-Yo> how clever is this translating machine
23:26 <madmax> taunt = "haha take that"
23:26 <K-Yo> ok thx mad :D
23:26 <Durka> #help t
23:26 <armabot> Durka: (t <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "Babelfish translate $*".
23:27 <Durka> didn't help much
23:27 <K-Yo> #help Babelfish translate
23:27 <armabot> K-Yo: (babelfish translate <from-language> [to] <to-language> <text>) -- Returns <text> translated from <from-language> into <to-language>. Beware that translating to or from languages that use multi-byte characters may result in some very odd results.
23:27 <Monkey_arma> #translate en fr taunt
23:27 <Durka> Goodygumdrops: I still can't believe you didn't like my idea for a new gametype :P
23:27 <armabot> Monkey_arma: Error: The command "translate" is available in the Babelfish and Format plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "translate".
23:28 <K-Yo> #Format translate en fr taunt
23:28 <armabot> K-Yo: taurt
23:28 <K-Yo> haha
23:28 <K-Yo> that's doesn't make any sense in french
23:28 <Durka> french doesn't make sense
23:28 <Goodygumdrops> durka
23:28 <Goodygumdrops> your new gametype is
23:28 <Durka> #t en fr croissant
23:28 <Goodygumdrops> "put fort physics on ctf"
23:28 <armabot> Durka: croissant
23:29 <K-Yo> maybe did the machine translate it in frorbgdish
23:29 <Durka> Goodygumdrops: kinda but no >.<
23:29 <Goodygumdrops> sure, let's do it
23:29 <Goodygumdrops> I"ll play
23:29 <Goodygumdrops> oh
23:29 <Goodygumdrops> and no respawn
23:29 <Goodygumdrops> my bad
23:29 <madmax> i'd play ctf more if cycle_delay was something more decent
23:29 <Lackadaisical> i think respawning would even things out a bit more in that good players dont dominate teamgames as much
23:29 <K-Yo> Durka, frnech doesn't make sense when you don't understand all it's beauty
23:29 <Goodygumdrops> but I don't thik you'll end up with something that invovles more teamwork than fortress
23:29 <Goodygumdrops> if anything
23:29 <Goodygumdrops> ctf relies less on teamwork
23:29 <Durka> madmax: my idea was a fortress, but with a flag (inside the fort base)
23:30 <Durka> and you have to just get in and take the flag back
23:30 <Goodygumdrops> does that end the round?
23:30 <Goodygumdrops> I think it should
23:30 <K-Yo> would the zones be conquerable?
23:30 <Goodygumdrops> no
23:30 <Goodygumdrops> maybe
23:30 <Durka> basically: fortress but instead of conquering the zone, you grab a flag
23:30 <K-Yo> oh
23:30 <Durka> maybe if you conquer the zone your team respawns?
23:30 <Durka> so only one respawn?
23:30 <Goodygumdrops> no
23:30 <Goodygumdrops> oh
23:30 <Goodygumdrops> hmm
23:30 <Monkey_arma> and then take flag tobase???
23:30 <Goodygumdrops> yeah
23:30 <K-Yo> <Goodygumdrops> "put fort physics on ctf"
23:30 <Goodygumdrops> I like that
23:31 <Goodygumdrops> basically that's what he told me before
23:31 <Goodygumdrops> anyways durka, change ddl
23:31 <Goodygumdrops> and I'll play
23:31 <Goodygumdrops> your new settings
23:31 <K-Yo> hehe
23:31 <K-Yo> same
23:31 <Durka> I would have to host it on this computer cuz this is the one with ctf and auth
23:31 <Durka> mac ftw
23:31 <Goodygumdrops> yeah
23:31 <Goodygumdrops> if you're hosting it on your pc
23:31 <Goodygumdrops> maybe I won't play
23:31 <Lackadaisical> cant we use rains test server?
23:32 <Lackadaisical> whatever happened to it?
23:32 <Goodygumdrops> idk
23:32 <Goodygumdrops> do you have admin there?
23:32 <Lackadaisical> no
23:32 <Goodygumdrops> rain's not around
23:32 <Monkey_arma> rain has no internet at the mo
23:32 <madmax> i just played MK3 with him man
23:32 <Lackadaisical> lol
23:32 <Goodygumdrops> damn
23:32 <Lackadaisical> tell him to come back to tron!
23:32 <Goodygumdrops> did you get the password?
23:32 <madmax> nope :(
23:33 <Durka> you need a server with sty patch
23:33 <Goodygumdrops> maybe concord would have it
23:33 <Durka> eddiefantastic: ping pong
23:33 <Durka> the only servers w/ that patch i guess is CT WW and my server here
23:33 <Lackadaisical> isnt rains test server just another server on wrtls server?
23:33 <K-Yo> are you all from overseas?
23:33 <Durka> but it's all the way in Los Angeles and no one would play it
23:33 <Goodygumdrops> that'd be convenient
23:33 <K-Yo> (US)?
23:33 <Lackadaisical> overseas from the US?
23:33 <Goodygumdrops> haha
23:33 <K-Yo> from Paris
23:33 <Durka> Lackadaisical: yea but wrtl's doesn't have sty patch
23:34 <Goodygumdrops> so tell him to patch it up
23:34 <Lackadaisical> oh
23:34 <Goodygumdrops> what's the big deal
23:34 <K-Yo> patch -p0 < sty.patch
23:34 <Lackadaisical> i think the patching up
23:34 <K-Yo> he can do it
23:34 <Goodygumdrops> I think I smell a feast being prepared
23:34 <Durka> he doesn't want to
23:34 <Goodygumdrops> talk to you guys later
23:34 <Goodygumdrops> check official forums
23:34 <Durka> lol
23:34 <Goodygumdrops> and tell me what you think
23:34 <K-Yo> ++
23:34 <Durka> ?
23:35 <Goodygumdrops> kod section, you know you know
23:35 <Monkey_arma> im from UK K-Yo
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23:35 <madmax> Portugal here
23:36 <Durka> o
23:36 <Lackadaisical> -> Netherlands
23:36 <Durka> <-- LA
23:36 <K-Yo> Monkey_arma, ah, i'm going to see you in 3 weeks ;)
23:36 <K-Yo> madmax, i'm going to see you iun july :D
23:36 <Durka> K-Yo: if you do, can you please hit him on the head with a heavy object
23:37 <Monkey_arma> oO
23:39 <Durka> :P
23:39 <madmax> #lastseen luzifer
23:39 <armabot> madmax: timed out
23:40 <Lackadaisical> mmm does luzi ever use smurfs?
23:41 <Durka> who the hell is 'backinbizz' :S
23:41 <Lackadaisical> #lastseen iamlegend
23:41 <armabot> Lackadaisical: timed out
23:41 <Lackadaisical> i dont think he's good enough to be newbie.. thats what you thought right?
23:42 <Lackadaisical> who's RoterBaron?
23:42 <madmax> o_O
23:43 <madmax> the WWII pilot? :P
23:43 <Durka> probably spot
23:43 <Lackadaisical> ah yeah
23:43 <Durka> #serverinfo mac
23:43 <armabot> Durka: Durka's PigSty Mac Test Server: Players (1/8): lacisiadakcaL
23:43 <Durka> :D
23:43 <Lackadaisical> stop impostering me :P
23:44 <Durka> join ;)
23:44 <K-Yo> backinbizz and roterbaron must be some arma players... imho
23:44 <Lackadaisical> know you mention it..
23:45 <Lackadaisical> what are you testing durka?
23:45 <K-Yo> know?
23:45 <Durka> it's like the original pig sty settings right now
23:45 <Durka> zombies and shooting
23:45 <Durka> and self-destruct blasts i think
23:46 <K-Yo> good night everyone
23:47 <Durka> peace
23:47 <Lackadaisical> gnight
23:47 <K-Yo> the sun goes to bed earlier in paris than in LA, netherlands, UK and portugal
23:47 <K-Yo> (tru)
23:47 <Lackadaisical> depends where in the netherlands no?
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23:48 <Lackadaisical> it's false anywhere in the netherlands
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23:51 <Durka> #serverinfo mac
23:51 <armabot> Durka: Durka's PigSty Mac Test Server: Players (4/8): Å£®ø.IK, DDMJ(away) (Durka), madmax, slickrickstyle
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23:55 <Monkey_arma> ok no rubber sumo at x clan sumo...come
23:55 <Monkey_arma> NO
23:55 <Monkey_arma> RUBBER
23:56 <Monkey_arma> bah reset
23:56 <madmax> aahh

Log from 2008-04-07:
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00:15 <Flex> WTH has epsy done to the server
00:15 <Flex> that's why his april fools joke wasn't taken humoursly.. the server is always fucked :D
00:18 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: come on
00:19 <Monkey_arma> I AM
00:27 <Flex> what is the default/standard cycle_rubber_time setting?
00:27 <Flex> anyone?
00:27 <Flex> zmanuel?
00:28 <zmanuel> 1 or 0
00:28 <zmanuel> 0.
00:28 <Flex> really
00:29 <Flex> the server is weird, and it was set to 0.1
00:29 <Flex> guess that's not the problem then
00:33 <noob13> actually i think rubber time is 10 by default..
00:34 <noob13> at 0 the rubber doesn't deplete :P
00:34 <Flex> bah, yeah it is 10
00:40 <zmanuel> ah, sorry, I thought you meant time_based
00:41 <zmanuel> yeah, 0.1 is moronically low for rubber_time :)
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01:08 <noob13> http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/03/29/europe/physics.php
01:08 <noob13> :O
01:10 <noob7> end of earth in my lifetime? count me in!
01:10 <noob7> I'd prefer a zombie outbreak tho...
01:10 <noob13> :D
01:13 <noob7> lets hope the black hole spreads like the nothing in neverending story :)
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01:17 <noob13> did it happen yet?
01:17 <zmanuel> No.
01:18 <zmanuel> 1. The LHC is not turned on yet
01:18 <zmanuel> 2. it's bullshit :)
01:18 <noob13> phew..
01:18 <noob7> dang!
01:18 <Monkey_arma> ah zman btw we have an issue  with zthread ..we cant quite get it to work
01:18 <zmanuel> what's the output?
01:19 <noob13> tru that..
01:19 <Monkey_arma> config.log?
01:19 <zmanuel> depends, what is the problem?
01:19 <Monkey_arma> we compiled zthread with the -fpermissive flag and then compile arma but it does not seem to use the ztrhread
01:20 <noob13> the aa configure can't run zthread..wait i'll show..
01:20 <Monkey_arma> others have had issues too..if we work out what to do we can alter the wiki
01:20 <zmanuel> yeah. The relevant output would then be in config.log, yes.
01:21 <Monkey_arma> we tried all combinations of flags for stating where zthread is and it altered the config.log but still didnt use it
01:21 <noob7> this it? http://www.mastercontrolprogram.de/files/documents/config.log
01:21 <noob7> or is that an old one?
01:23 <noob13> that might be it, or this http://www.mastercontrolprogram.de/files/documents/config.log.txt
01:23 <noob13> i'm a bit confused at the moment
01:23 <Monkey_arma> same thing
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01:24 <noob13> indeed.
01:25 <Flex> madmax, 220-230 is possible and probably the max
01:26 <Flex> i don't think i can do anything above 220, so it belongs to you if you manage lol
01:26 <madmax> lol
01:27 <Flex> i barely managed 212, hitting 204 3times.. but you were doing 208 with ease
01:27 <madmax> btw, the SP grid is smaller right?
01:27 <Flex> sp?
01:27 <madmax> single player
01:28 <Flex> yeah
01:28 <Flex> bots, so no point
01:28 <Monkey_arma> zmanuel, that is with  the option --with-zthread-exec-prefix=/usr/local and --with-zthread-exec-prefix=/usr/local
01:28 <Flex> just get a slave, i'll use Monkey_arma :D
01:28 <Flex> xxx
01:28 <Monkey_arma> yes master Flex anything you desire...
01:29 <noob13> Monkey_arma: actually that isn't..
01:29 <madmax> so, you and evil guy get along just fine heh?
01:29 <Flex> he's annoying dick
01:29 <Flex> an
01:29 <Monkey_arma> yes i noticed them arguing too
01:29 <madmax> tron's drama
01:30 <Monkey_arma> zmanuel, without those options the error is different...noobs will show you
01:30 <Flex> it all started when i said i'll necro his mother, then he's whined and come at me ever since
01:30 <Flex> i admit i shouldn't of said that, but he deserved it at the time :D
01:30 <zmanuel> ./conftest: error while loading shared libraries: libZThread-2.3.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
01:30 <zmanuel> That's the relevant line
01:30 <Flex> necrophilia ftw (sometimes)
01:30 <zmanuel> it says libZThread.so.2 is not properly installed
01:31 <Monkey_arma> i figured the problem is that it cant find it
01:31 <zmanuel> Yep, probably because /usr/local/lib is not in the library search path.
01:31 <Monkey_arma> i guessed this too
01:31 <zmanuel> Ubuntu and some other distributions do that crap.
01:32 <Monkey_arma> debian
01:32 <noob13> hmm..i've gotten it to work on my ubuntu, this debian is a bit harder
01:32 <Monkey_arma> that is why i gave the option to configure of /usr/local
01:32 <Monkey_arma> but it dont work
01:32 <noob13> the above config.log was done without defining paths for zthread
01:33 <Monkey_arma> i thought maybe we can add to environment variable to LIBS or something?
01:33 <zmanuel> well, the options don't change the library SEARCH path.
01:33 <zmanuel> Or you could install zthread with "--prefix=/usr"
01:33 <Monkey_arma> i  thought that but its mess to remove
01:34 <Monkey_arma> does LIBS add to the list of library dirs or does it override?
01:34 <zmanuel> I think it should add.
01:34 <Monkey_arma> ok i hope so..we will try that
01:34 <Monkey_arma> thanks...for now :)
01:35 <Monkey_arma> also i noticed that zhtread-config shows crazy dirs for macros, libs and headers
01:35 <zmanuel> And if it doesn't work: it's just for convenience.
01:35 <Monkey_arma> dont know if i will have to state the dirs for all 3...
01:35 <zmanuel> armathentication works without zthread, only slower.
01:35 <noob7> well, between rounds only
01:35 <Monkey_arma> but the noobs have a styball server
01:36 <Monkey_arma> rounds last for AGES
01:36 <noob7> and thats bad when campers are doing their thing and admins cant jump in ingame
01:36 <zmanuel> oh, ok
01:36 <zmanuel> you can give the admins local accounts.
01:36 <noob7> local accounts work right away?
01:36 <noob7> I mean the auth for local accounts...
01:37 <zmanuel> yep, they don't require queries to remote servers that can stall, so they're handled at once.
01:37 <noob7> ok I understand, still a hassle, most got accounts at other athorities for armathentication, but its might be a solution
01:38 <Monkey_arma> we can get the zthread  to work..i knew it was just a location issue...i hope that the macro and headers arent a hassle too though
01:42 <Flex> btw, who won the FFF?
01:42 <zmanuel> RT1
01:42 <Flex> who was playing
01:42 <noob7> http://fff.armagetron.co.uk/
01:42 <Monkey_arma> rt1 usual team
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01:42 <noob7> woops
01:42 <Flex> right
01:43 <Monkey_arma> for ct ady came late so others played till
01:43 <Flex> gz Lackadaisical
01:43 <Monkey_arma> yes gz lack
01:43 <Lackadaisical> thanks
01:43 <Flex> never watched it :/
01:43 <Flex> how did it all go
01:43 <Lackadaisical> first match was horrible
01:43 <Lackadaisical> we lost 140 - 40 or something
01:44 <Flex> "What kind of tournament is it where some Random Team can win it? " lol I'd like to know that too
01:44 <noob7> 148 - 48
01:44 <noob7> :D
01:44 <Flex> seriously we should of beat you guys.. we got cocky :(
01:45 <Lackadaisical> yeah.. i had expected holers to win the tournament
01:46 <Flex> Infamous said he wanted a random team to win the first FFF lol
01:47 <Flex> i think he spiked us :D
01:50 <Monkey_arma> durka and lacks are very good players flex
01:50 <Monkey_arma> raiden is too and that punkboy is not bad at all
01:51 <Flex> they're random, we're orginized or was supposed to be lol
01:51 <Monkey_arma> durka if you are listening im joking you suck
01:51 <Flex> they had some "beginnner" players
01:52 <madmax> triple n beginners? :-D
01:52 <Flex> i'm not saying they had no chance, it was just we were clearly the more 'advanced' team :p
01:53 <Monkey_arma> lol im not sure you where
01:53 <Monkey_arma> watch raiden play in cafe some time
01:53 <Monkey_arma> you and legits team and rt1 were the only 3 i thought would win
01:53 <Monkey_arma> *were
01:53 <Flex> I thought legits team would be at the final with us
01:54 <Lackadaisical> whatever happened to 1200s team? i heard he was going to play with psyko and whatup?
01:54 <Flex> hey, who cares, GG's no hard feelings.. it's good that a random team won..
01:54 <Flex> shows that it's worth signing up solo
01:54 <Lackadaisical> yes thats true
01:55 <Lackadaisical> but it makes you think how much teamplay is actually needed for fortress
01:55 <Lackadaisical> i think i might hijack defense down! to rant a bit about it
01:56 <Flex> we clearly had none though during our game
01:56 <Flex> but then again, it's not like you guys only played us
01:56 <Monkey_arma> we didnt just have no teamwork we had no team......
01:56 <Monkey_arma> #slap epsy
01:56 <armabot> Monkey_arma slaps epsy for being a raving moron.
01:56 <Lackadaisical> lol
01:56 <Flex> you guys fucked us over by being so shit :D
01:57 <Flex> we then played rt1 with a silly attitude
01:57 <madmax> that statement sound similar to "financial system callapsing" news
01:57 <Monkey_arma> yes they paid us to underwhelm you with our lack of ability
01:57 <Flex> Lackadaisical, are you saying you guys had no team work?
01:58 <madmax> i guess we've been fooled into thinking that fortress is a team game all this time :D
01:58 <Flex> it's worrying tbh
01:58 <madmax> but then again, there's no "practice" routines
01:58 <Lackadaisical> well there was some of course
01:58 <madmax> or nothing very complex at least
01:58 <Flex> there is max..
01:58 <Flex> our sweeping is complex :D
01:58 <Flex> but shh
01:58 <Flex> lol
01:59 <madmax> you have schematics and all?
01:59 <Lackadaisical> but it wouldve been better if a team of semigood people who are really good teamplayers would beat a random team who didnt play that much with eachother
01:59 <madmax> plan Bs?
01:59 <Flex> i'm not allowed to talk about that sorry :p
01:59 <madmax> crap.
01:59 <madmax> gotta get into a clan
01:59 <Lackadaisical> havent you heard max? teams are clans
01:59 <Flex> don't think you have the skillz max
02:00 <madmax> oh yeah, forgot about that
02:00 <Lackadaisical> you've been in a clan all along
02:00 <madmax> damn it!
02:00 <Flex> in all seriousness.. what's the big difference
02:00 <Flex> oh we're binded by our tag?
02:00 <Flex> we just like to use it.. nobody is forced :)
02:00 <Flex> so got anything else?
02:00 <madmax> heh not this again
02:01 <Flex> Legit, and afew others are also in some team "supers" or something
02:01 <madmax> in-game chat about it is too much already
02:01 <Flex> so again, we're not limited
02:02 <Flex> don't blame us for being social players and joining groups ;) i think that was the foundation of clans and guilds
02:02 <madmax> so you actually have "complex" practicing sessions Flex?
02:02 <Flex> lol, why are you interested? :p
02:03 <madmax> i mean, something more than splitting into two teams and playing a match
02:03 <madmax> well, i'm curious
02:03 <Monkey_arma> teams can be social players too
02:03 <Flex> we used to have practicing sessions every sunday.. that was when we was at the "peak" of our success :p
02:04 <madmax> if i remember correctly, in AW's practices (which was pretty much the closest to practice i've been i think) there wasn't much organization
02:04 <Monkey_arma> well clans or teams..is not so important..what is important is that we should properly organise some friendly matches
02:05 <Monkey_arma> like yesterday but maybe 5v5 6v6 etc
02:05 <Monkey_arma> no clowns
02:05 <Lackadaisical> when did we have AW practices? or are you talking about preladle?
02:05 <madmax> when it first came up i think we did some, no?
02:06 <Flex> i dunno if it actually made a difference, but personally i think it did.. it changed players attitudes towards winning and team effort completely..
02:06 <Lackadaisical> mmm i forgot i guess, or i was in SS at the time
02:08 <Flex> also, you and durka are experienced players and also have played quite afew times together.. so that's half your team
02:08 <madmax> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Strategy_Experiments
02:09 <madmax> i think we actually tried that fork thing on one of those practices
02:09 <madmax> but it was a mess lol
02:09 <Lackadaisical> 2020 :D
02:09 <madmax> exactly
02:10 <madmax> if something like a tutorial (or something with pre-defined situations) comes up maybe that'll allow for people to actually "practice"
02:10 <Lackadaisical> i wish he'd still make those reports on matches on youtube, those were fun
02:10 <Flex> yeah, it's more of a tutorial on how to play :p
02:11 <Lackadaisical> how many situations are there in fortress that require team practice? as opposed to just playing on cafe
02:11 <Lackadaisical> *situations you cant practice while playing on cafe
02:12 <Lackadaisical> *dont
02:12 <Flex> being on par with defence or sweeper
02:12 <Flex> i guess
02:14 <Lackadaisical> there are instances when i think 'man i wish i knew what my teammate is going to do now' but those are few and far in between tbh
02:15 <Flex> counter strike is a game considered to be team game.. personally i can't think of much situations that you can't play with randoms..
02:15 <Flex> well practicing with randoms
02:15  * madmax senses Lackadaisical spreading terror about the slow descent of fortress team games
02:15 <Lackadaisical> haha
02:15 <Flex> how complex would you want it..
02:18 <madmax> well, in CS you have complex maps and different routes towards the objective
02:18 <madmax> might as well define who goes where and have a balanced attack, for example
02:18 <Flex> he's talking about being able to "practice" and play a specific position with randoms
02:19 <Flex> when i used to practice my usual position for a clan match, i could practice all day without issues on a public server
02:21 <Lackadaisical> i gotta think about this.. but first: sleep
02:21 <Flex> unless my position required a second participant to work, i wouldn't have a problem.. but without practice your clan would be as rusty as hell
02:21 <Lackadaisical> gnight
02:21 <Flex> gn
02:22 <madmax> heh me too
02:22 <madmax> gnight
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17:18 <noob7> quick question about map xml files and zones, can someone have a look at this pastebin.ca/975414 and tell me what the right way of doing it is?
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17:39 <wrtlprnft> noob7: err, the first?
17:39 <wrtlprnft> i'm 99% positive positive that the second one won't work, and 314% positive that the third one won't
17:39 <noob7> ok, all I wanted to know :)
17:39 <noob7> I have like 400 zones and wanted to save some lines
17:40 <noob7> thanks
17:40 <noob7> oh and 13 and monkey got zthread working with the advise you gave :) thanks for the help there as well
17:40 <wrtlprnft> nothing prevents you from not using newlines
17:41 <noob7> how would a list of zones look like with newlines?
17:41 <wrtlprnft> <Zone effect="fortress"><ShapeCircle radius="10" growth="0"><Point x="30" y="310" /></ShapeCircle></Zone>
17:41 <noob7> lol :P
17:41 <wrtlprnft> that's OK, if you have that many zones it might be an option
17:41 <noob7> yeah I might have to do that
17:42 <noob7> the map file is getting confusing as hell already
17:42 <wrtlprnft> yw :) anything to get more auth servers
17:42 <noob7> hehe :P
17:42 <wrtlprnft> 400 zones might be quite framerate-eating, though
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17:43 <noob7> I was kidding, but its quite a lot http://eddie.plantpeanuts.co.uk/maptools/map-preview/ssoan/pacman-0.0.1.png
17:44 <noob7> about half of them done :)
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17:45  * wrtlprnft made a similar map with fewer zones
17:45 <wrtlprnft> should be floating around somewhere
17:46 <noob7> I looked for similar maps and wasnt able to find any, but its a good training :)
17:47 <epsy> hi
17:47 <wrtlprnft> http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/wrtlprnft/fortress/puckmap-1.aamap.xml
17:47 <wrtlprnft> I think i accidentally moved the outer rim, so that would have to be fixed
17:48 <noob7> dang, I am always late to the party :(
17:49 <wrtlprnft> it didn't really work, though :-(
17:49 <wrtlprnft> that's why you don't see it on CTWF, it was originally made for that
17:49 <noob7> why not? :o
17:49 <wrtlprnft> too many zones
17:49 <noob7> hehehe
17:49 <noob7> argh! :D
17:50 <wrtlprnft> feel free to continue yours, though, I made mine with inkscape and it looks like i messed a couple of things up
17:50 <noob7> doing it by hand actually now, was working with illustrator generated svg's first, but something was always screwed one way or a nother
18:06 <epsy> #ping
18:06 <armabot> pong
18:10 <noob7> luke-jr what is the max file size for maps when uploading to the resource repository?
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18:12 <wrtlprnft> noob7: next to nothing. I can upload bigger maps if you give me the file
18:38 <noob7> sorry I was afk, it's here: http://eddie.plantpeanuts.co.uk/maptools/map-preview/ssoan/pacman-0.0.1.png
18:38 <noob7> woops no its not :)
18:38 <noob7> http://mastercontrolprogram.de/files/documents/pacman.xml
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19:12 <wrtlprnft> #ping
19:12 <armabot> pong
19:12 <wrtlprnft> ah, i'm still here
19:13 <K-Yo> wrtlprnft, ping
19:14 <K-Yo> we have a Izual ruining café
19:14 <epsy> i can come...
19:14 <epsy> without dri tho
19:14 <K-Yo> without "dri"?
19:16 <epsy> direct rendering
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19:18 <epsy> brb
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19:19 <wrtlprnft> K-Yo: details?
19:19 <K-Yo> it's done
19:19 <K-Yo> just tker
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19:19 <K-Yo> the same one as always, with a dyn ip
19:19 <epsy> wrtlprnft, the ban is *only* 10000 mins long
19:20 <epsy> wait...
19:21 <epsy> wrtlprnft, you banned 161.97.198.*
19:21 <epsy> trough, if i remember correctly, Izual has a 181 in it's ip
19:21 <epsy> at least that's what i remember of it
19:22 <epsy>
19:22 <epsy> that was the IP i kicked him from
19:23 <wrtlprnft> let's hope he gets bored soon
19:23 <wrtlprnft> can't really do anything
19:26 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r8398 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/add-resource/upload.suid-php: hopefully fixing the stupid sizelimit bug once and for all
19:26 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
19:28 <epsy> wrtlprnft, i think he's always been on that range
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19:31 <wrtlprnft> noob7: http://beta.armagetronad.net/add-resource/upload.suid-php?filef=/tmp/pacman.xml
19:32 <noob7> Filepath identified as: SSOAN/fortress/pacman-0.0.1.aamap.xml
19:32 <noob7> Click here to add this resource to the repository permanently:
19:32 <noob7> Warning: unlink(/tmp/pacman.xml) [function.unlink]: Operation not permitted in /var/www/armagetron/beta/htdocs/add-resource/upload.suid-php on line 234
19:32 <wrtlprnft> epsy: well, than that's another bugger or he got himself a new provider
19:32 <wrtlprnft> noob7: ignore that
19:32 <noob7> when clicking submit: Filepath identified as: SSOAN/fortress/pacman-0.0.1.aamap.xml
19:32 <noob7> ERROR: Your resource is larger than 25 KB. Please contact Luke-Jr to add it to the repository manually.
19:32 <noob7> hehe, I'm at ~45kb :P
19:32 <noob7> :(
19:33 <wrtlprnft> now i see the problem
19:33 <wrtlprnft> it forgets about disabling the size limit
19:33 <wrtlprnft> screw this, try again
19:33 <wrtlprnft> commenting out works as a temporary hack
19:34 <noob7> thanks :)
19:34 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/SSOAN/fortress/pacman-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by SSOAN
19:35 <noob7> preview doesnt work, maybe a filesize problem as well?
19:35 <wrtlprnft> not again...
19:35 <noob7> :D
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19:35 <noob7> sorry wrtlprnft :(
19:38 <wrtlprnft> well, i can't fix that
19:38 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/i686-linux/RMagick.so: This version of RMagick was created to run with ImageMagick 6.3.7 (RuntimeError)
19:38 <wrtlprnft> but ImageMagick 6.3.8 is installed on this system. You should either 1) Configure and build RMagick for ImageMagick 6.3.8, or 2) download ImageMagick 6.3.7 from file:///usr/share/doc/imagemagick- and install it.
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19:38 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: do the same thing you did last time
19:39 <noob7> ok :) thanks a lot, I'll try crashing my server with the map later
19:40 <wrtlprnft> ;-)
19:42 <Flex> wrtlprnft, i can't seem to get bars ontop of the player cycles like this:
19:42 <Flex>
19:43 <Flex> is the code in your cockpit?
19:43 <Flex> http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/wrtlprnft/testfile-0.0.3.aacockpit.xml
19:52 <wrtlprnft> Flex: yeah
19:52 <wrtlprnft> search for percycle
19:52 <wrtlprnft> err
19:52 <wrtlprnft> just cycle
19:53 <wrtlprnft> argh, use the cockpit in your arma install, it's more up to date
19:53 <wrtlprnft> aabeta won't take it because it uses a newer DTD
19:55 <wrtlprnft> Flex: http://wrtlprnft.pastebin.ca/975613
19:55 <Flex> thank you
19:55 <wrtlprnft> yw
20:14 <Flex> wrtlprnft, i'm confused.. i'm using the old old v0.3 and i'm loading your cockpit untouched.. and i still can't see it
20:14 <Flex> tried all toggles
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20:22 <epsy> wrtlprnft, cycle?
20:24 <wrtlprnft> Flex: that explains everything
20:24 <wrtlprnft> 0.3.0 doesn't have it
20:24 <wrtlprnft> epsy: cycle.
20:25 <epsy> 		<AtomicData field="maximum" source="cycle_rubber" />
20:25 <epsy> that?
20:25 <Flex> ^^
20:25 <wrtlprnft> epsy: no.
20:25 <Flex> isn't epsy using trunk?
20:25 <wrtlprnft> <VerticalBarGauge viewport="cycle" toggle="3">
20:25 <wrtlprnft> that
20:26 <epsy> O_o
20:26 <wrtlprnft> never seen my screenshots?
20:26 <wrtlprnft> those little brake/rubber gauges above each cycle?
20:26 <epsy> i don't find that here <http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/wrtlprnft/testfile-0.0.3.aacockpit.xml>
20:26 <epsy> i use them myself
20:26 <wrtlprnft> because that file is outdated
20:26 <epsy> ah?
20:26 <wrtlprnft> because luke-jr refuses to allow unversioned DTDs
20:27 <epsy> ok..
20:27 <wrtlprnft> it's the last file that was compatible with the old dtd
20:27 <epsy> brb dinner
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20:27 <epsy> i see
20:28 <Flex> wrtlprnft, can i get it to work on my version? or is it not possible?
20:28 <noob7> oh wrtlprnft, btw, the map works perfect even with 8 players, I didnt notice any fps drops :)
20:28 <wrtlprnft> Flex: no, it's not possible
20:28 <wrtlprnft> noob7: well, ctwf was 14 players at the time i tried it
20:28 <wrtlprnft> and people did complain about lag
20:28 <wrtlprnft> but they always do, so maybe it's OK
20:28 <noob7> I am used to the complaining about lag :D
20:28 <noob7> ;)
20:28 <Flex> wrtlprnft is it possible on trunk?
20:29 <wrtlprnft> yeah, of course
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23:02 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/SSOAN/fortress/wolfenstein-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by SSOAN
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23:04 <Monkey_arma> great there is now a player called "foolish monkey" ...it gets worse
23:06 <epsy> there's also a war monkey
23:06 <epsy> soon a RoboMonkey etc etc
23:06 <epsy> #lastseen monkey
23:06 <armabot> epsy: Monkey seems to be on Nexus9 (NO RUBBER!) right now.
23:06 <epsy> ah
23:06 <epsy> #lastseen "monkey "
23:06 <armabot> epsy: foolish monkey seems to be on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress right now.
23:06 <epsy> #lastseen " monkey"
23:06 <armabot> epsy: Usage: #lastseen [-f] <nick> -OR- #lastseen -g <nick>@<authority>
23:07 <wrtlprnft> #lastseen % monkey
23:07 <armabot> wrtlprnft: foolish monkey seems to be on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress right now.
23:07 <wrtlprnft> n00bs.
23:07 <epsy> uh...you can do mysql escaping?
23:07 <epsy> :S
23:07 <luke-jr> #lastseen %
23:07 <wrtlprnft> it's a mysql LIKE query
23:07 <armabot> luke-jr:  seems to be on  [IG] Community Server right now.
23:07 <luke-jr> #lastseen %a%
23:08 <armabot> luke-jr: Vela seems to be on SPACEZONE III right now.
23:08 <luke-jr> #lastseen %b%
23:08 <armabot> luke-jr: vita !!!SB!!! seems to be on [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. right now.
23:08  * wrtlprnft doesn't see the danger in that
23:08 <wrtlprnft> it's properly escaped, of course
23:08 <wrtlprnft> #lastseen \
23:08 <luke-jr> #lastseen ';DELETE FROM foo;
23:08 <armabot> wrtlprnft: timed out
23:08 <luke-jr> ☺
23:08 <armabot> luke-jr: timed out
23:10 <epsy> #wisdom
23:11 <wrtlprnft> #insight
23:11 <epsy> aw, she died
23:11 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The reckless threat of rain forests will overhaul modern future values.
23:11  * wrtlprnft agrees
23:11 <Monkey_arma> #lastseen monkey
23:11 <armabot> Monkey_arma: Monkey.D.Luffy has last been seen on  Wild West  =CTF Shooting= 1 minute ago.
23:11 <Monkey_arma> rediculous
23:11 <epsy> haha
23:11 <epsy> ./whois monkey
23:12 <Monkey_arma> ./whois monkey
23:12 <epsy> /whois monkey
23:12 <Monkey_arma> i did that
23:12 <Monkey_arma> got nothing
23:12 <Monkey_arma> i dont exist
23:12 <epsy> * [monkey] (n=monkey@ monkey
23:12 <epsy> * [monkey] irc.freenode.net :http://freenode.net/
23:12 <epsy> * [Monkey] Fin de la liste WHOIS.
23:12 <epsy> altrough it appeared on the server tab
23:13 <Monkey_arma> aha
23:13 <epsy> same happens with /topic and also with many other things
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23:50 <Monkey_arma> they're taking the piss now
23:50 <Monkey_arma> lastseen $m
23:50 <Monkey_arma> #lastseen $m
23:51 <armabot> Monkey_arma: $m0k3Y___ seems to be on  ~*SpeederS*~ Server right now.
23:51 <madmax> so it's a monkey invasion?
23:51 <Monkey_arma> seems so :|
23:56 <Flex> #rating Monkey
23:57 <Flex> #ping
23:57 <Flex> hello?
23:57 <Monkey_arma> pong
23:57 <Flex> hew
23:59 <Monkey_arma> Monkey is rated #1
23:59 <Monkey_arma> Monkey is rated #1 retard

Log from 2008-04-08:
--- Day changed Tue Apr 08 2008
00:01 <Flex> i'm hungry Monkey_arma :(
00:01 <Monkey_arma> get some food
00:01 <Monkey_arma> i am just about to have some crumble i thjink
00:03 <Flex> need to post the fff thingy
00:03 <Flex> do you know the exact results of the final..
00:03 <Flex> or any ss's
00:03 <Flex> or recording
00:03 <Monkey_arma> zman recorded the second half
00:03 <Monkey_arma> check the logs from sunday
00:03 <Flex> is there a link somewhere to that
00:03 <Monkey_arma> check the irc logs
00:03 <Monkey_arma> i narrated the scores
00:03 <Flex> i don't have logs
00:04 <Monkey_arma> first was 148-48 to armaholics
00:04 <Monkey_arma> kyo might have ss
00:04 <armabot> Flex: monkey is 2487th with a rating of 1477-1496 (from 1483-1500)
00:04 <Monkey_arma> not for all though
00:04 <Monkey_arma> how slow is armabot
00:04 <armabot> pong
00:04 <Monkey_arma> lmao
00:04 <Flex> #rating flex
00:05 <Flex> gotta keep the bots working :D
00:05 <Flex> or they'll try to invade us and stuff
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00:05 <Flex> :d
00:06 <Flex> z-man, do you happened to have the fff final record uploaded somewhere? :)
00:06 <z-man> Yes, the bits I do have are on the FFF thread.
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00:13 <madmax> "Oversized packet received" hmm
00:14 <Flex> nexus9 orgy? :D
00:15 <madmax> o_O
00:16 <madmax> z-man: is an "Oversized packet received" interesting? just happened on the no rubber fortress server
00:16 <z-man> Do you have it recorded?
00:16 <madmax> er, no.
00:16 <noob7> join again madmax :D
00:17 <madmax> but noob7 can probably set rubber back to 0 because i think it was something related to that
00:18 <noob7> done
00:21 <Monkey_arma> ok i got the oversized error too
00:21 <noob7> weird
00:21 <madmax> alright, got it z-man :P
00:22 <madmax> wait, something's wrong with the recorder x_X
00:23 <noob7> theres all kinds of weird stuff going on if you want some recordings for your "weird stuff" collection
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00:27 <Monkey_arma> i dont think there is much weird stuff
00:27 <Monkey_arma> its just peoples isps
00:27 <noob7> everybody being stuck at the walls?
00:27 <noob7> Oo
00:28 <Monkey_arma> ok now a little strange
00:28 <madmax> yes noob7, a lot
00:29 <madmax> something is very wrong with that server :P
00:29 <madmax> z-man: i have it if you want, but that server is a mess everytime you enter it
00:29 <noob7> I told 13 he was smoking crystal meth again but nobody would listen to me
00:31 <z-man> Guess I'll just pay it a visit then.
00:32 <noob7> all other server instances are fine
00:38 <noob13> hah! that was trippy..
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01:02 <noob7> so z-man, what were those packets?
01:03 <Flex> Monkey_arma
01:03 <Monkey_arma> yes Flex
01:03 <Flex> can you come x sumo for a sec? :)
01:04 <z-man> noob7: nothing yet.
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01:09 <Monkey_arma> Flex, i will be there in 5
01:09 <Flex> don't worry, guess it's fine now
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01:11 <madmax> #ping
01:11 <armabot> pong
01:12 <Monkey_arma> #pong
01:12 <armabot> ping
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01:21 <Flex> #rating flex
01:21 <armabot> Flex: flex is 437th with a rating of 1588-1634 (from 1150-1850)
01:27 <Monkey_arma> i dont think so
01:27 <Flex> why not
01:28 <Monkey_arma> thats a bit good
01:29 <Flex> it is?
01:29 <Flex> that's shit
01:29 <Monkey_arma> i am ranked 234352
01:29 <Flex> #rating luke-jr
01:29 <madmax> #rating "Player 1"
01:29 <armabot> Flex: luke-jr is 62nd with a rating of 1659-1699 (from 1664-1695)
01:29 <armabot> madmax: player_1 is 3966th with a rating of 1427-1443 (from 1450-1460)
01:29 <madmax> now that's bad
01:29 <Monkey_arma> luke-jr my arse
01:29 <Flex> now if luke is 62 and i'm 400th somethings fucked :D
01:29 <madmax> luke-jr manipules the system in his benefit :P
01:30 <Flex> #rating madmax
01:30 <armabot> Flex: madmax is 219th with a rating of 1614-1642 (from 1619-1638)
01:30 <Flex> now that's really fucked! :D
01:30 <madmax> nexus isn't rated :(
01:30 <Flex> yeah
01:30 <madmax> and i think that thing sucks in team games
01:30 <Flex> yeah
01:31 <madmax> #rating "Player 2"
01:31 <Flex> if you defend and nothing else, you'll auto hit top 10
01:31 <armabot> madmax: player_2 is 6250th with a rating of 1360-1393 (from 1341-1370)
01:31 <Flex> #rating |x|_infamous
01:31 <madmax> #rating "Player 3"
01:31 <armabot> Flex: |x|_infamous is 34th with a rating of 1678-1703 (from 1688-1711)
01:31 <armabot> madmax: player_3 is 6906th with a rating of 1340-1407 (from 1322-1396)
01:31 <Monkey_arma> #rating madmax
01:31 <armabot> Monkey_arma: madmax is 219th with a rating of 1614-1642 (from 1619-1638)
01:32 <Flex> if i could actually be bothered, i'll go catch one of those guys and kill them :p
01:34 <Monkey_arma> #rating durka
01:34 <armabot> Monkey_arma: durka is 2965th with a rating of 1459-1522 (from 1419-1542)
01:34 <Monkey_arma> haha
01:34 <noob7> #rating noob7
01:34 <armabot> noob7: noob7 is 4106th with a rating of 1422-1536 (from 1074-1536)
01:35 <Monkey_arma> :(
01:35 <noob7> :o
01:35 <madmax> #rating "Player 4"
01:35 <Flex> http://ratings.armagetronad.net/?system=cafe
01:35 <armabot> madmax: player_4 is 12183rd with a rating of 1141-1267 (from 1152-1280)
01:35 <madmax> lol
01:35 <Monkey_arma> #rating z-man
01:36 <armabot> Monkey_arma: z-man is 1594th with a rating of 1517-1554 (from 1476-1524)
01:36 <Flex> #rating blumentopf
01:36 <armabot> Flex: blumentopf is 1st with a rating of 1865-2373
01:36 <Flex> #rating cafe flex
01:36 <armabot> Flex: I don't know anything about 'cafe_flex'!
01:37 <madmax> #rating2 cafe flex
01:37 <armabot> madmax: I don't know anything about 'cafe'!
01:37 <madmax> #help rating2
01:37 <armabot> madmax: (rating2 <an alias, 2 arguments>) -- Alias for "web fetch [format concat [format concat http://ratings.armagetronad.net/rating.php?slashes=1&system=[urlquote $2]][format concat &name=[urlquote $1]]]".
01:37 <Flex> #rating2 flex
01:37 <armabot> Flex: (rating2 <an alias, 2 arguments>) -- Alias for "web fetch [format concat [format concat http://ratings.armagetronad.net/rating.php?slashes=1&system=[urlquote $2]][format concat &name=[urlquote $1]]]".
01:37 <madmax> #rating2 flex cafe
01:37 <madmax> heh
01:37 <armabot> madmax: flex is 24th with a rating of 1631-1703 (from 1150-1850) on cafe
01:37 <Flex> yay
01:38 <Flex> #rating2 madmax cafe
01:39 <armabot> Flex: madmax is 45th with a rating of 1607-1647 (from 1611-1648) on cafe
01:39 <Flex> #rating2 Monkey cafe
01:39 <armabot> Flex: monkey is 445th with a rating of 1485-1509 (from 1474-1494) on cafe
01:39 <Flex> hah
01:40 <Monkey_arma> just you wait till i get my upgrade and actually have some fps
01:40 <Monkey_arma> !
01:40 <Monkey_arma> #rating2 durka cafe
01:40 <armabot> Monkey_arma: durka is 1420th with a rating of 1275-1442 (from 1300-1500) on cafe
01:41 <Monkey_arma> lmfao
01:41 <Flex> Monkey_arma i like you how you just are :D no need to impress me :p
01:41 <Monkey_arma> i know
01:41 <Flex> xxx
01:42 <Monkey_arma> what happened to the no rubber fort?
01:43 <Monkey_arma> did you check it out zman?
01:43 <Flex> check this out
01:43 <Flex> #rating whore
01:43 <armabot> Flex: whore is 16th with a rating of 1698-1961 (from 1150-1850)
01:43 <Flex> hah
01:44 <Monkey_arma> i think lack is finally getting some recognition
01:44 <Monkey_arma> #rating lackadaisical
01:44 <armabot> Monkey_arma: lackadaisical is 72nd with a rating of 1655-1696 (from 1704-1755)
01:44 <Monkey_arma> he was higher on the top 25
01:45 <Flex> #rating2 lackadaisical cafe
01:45 <armabot> Flex: lackadaisical is 116th with a rating of 1569-1648 (from 1649-1764) on cafe
01:45 <Monkey_arma> i bet rico is high
01:46 <Monkey_arma> #rating xs20
01:46 <armabot> Monkey_arma: xs2o is 1175th with a rating of 1538-1561 (from 1552-1571)
01:46 <Monkey_arma> or not
01:46 <Flex> na, he doesn't defend publicly anymore
01:46 <Monkey_arma> #rating2 xs20 cafe
01:46 <Flex> he would be highest if he did
01:46 <armabot> Monkey_arma: xs2o is 141st with a rating of 1560-1590 (from 1575-1601) on cafe
01:46 <Flex> who is gcc?
01:47 <Monkey_arma> dunno
01:47 <Flex> #rating ~|ds|~|alien|~
01:47 <armabot> Flex: ~|ds|~|alien|~ is 189th with a rating of 1619-1648 (from 1624-1646)
01:47 <madmax> the gnu c compiler
01:47 <Monkey_arma> he means as a player
01:47 <Monkey_arma> i think...
01:47 <Flex> #rating2 ~|ds|~|alien|~ cafe
01:47 <armabot> Flex: ~|ds|~|alien|~ is 8th with a rating of 1671-1739 (from 1673-1737) on cafe
01:47 <Monkey_arma> !
01:47 <Flex> #rating2 gcc cafe
01:47 <madmax> i know, i saw 'it' on the top :P
01:47 <armabot> Flex: gcc is 1st with a rating of 1717-1785 (from 1718-1783) on cafe
01:47 <madmax> gcc is usually a bot
01:47 <Flex> usually?
01:47 <Flex> a bot can't be that high on cafe..
01:48 <Monkey_arma> #rating psyko
01:48 <madmax> lol
01:48 <armabot> Monkey_arma: psyko is 344th with a rating of 1597-1615 (from 1601-1613)
01:48 <Monkey_arma> #rating2 psyko cafe
01:48 <madmax> can't you see the thing is flawed? :P
01:48 <armabot> Monkey_arma: psyko is 57th with a rating of 1601-1663 (from 1603-1661) on cafe
01:48 <Flex> have you noticed that when you play with bots on local game, they always create a swastika..
01:48 <Flex> cough cough.. zman is a nazi cough
01:49 <Monkey_arma> who is up for cafe now? there are 5 of us minimum
01:49 <Flex> i'll play for a bit.. but who's five?
01:50 <Monkey_arma> noob7 noob13 me max you ..whoever else
01:50 <Monkey_arma> radian and ashi are on ctwf
01:50 <Monkey_arma> they will come
01:51 <madmax> i'm going
01:51 <madmax> to bed
01:51 <madmax> gnight
01:51 <Flex> to masterbait
01:51 <Monkey_arma> sticky is on
01:52 <Monkey_arma> cu
01:52 <Monkey_arma> oO
01:52 <Flex> let's go monkeh
01:52 <Monkey_arma> ok
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02:52 <Flex> #rating flex
02:52 <armabot> Flex: flex is 439th with a rating of 1588-1634 (from 1150-1850)
02:53 <Flex> lol i improved 5ranks
02:53 <Flex> 6^
02:53 <Flex> #rating |x|_flex
02:53 <armabot> Flex: |x|_flex is 529th with a rating of 1579-1680 (from 1150-1850)
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03:47 <luke-jr> Flex: cuz I pwn u?
03:48 <Flex> no you dont
03:50 <Flex> http://www.scifimoviepage.com/upcoming/previews/xfiles2.html
03:50 <Flex> 0mg 0mg x files 2 movie :D
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05:24 <spidey> http://s127.photobucket.com/albums/p144/im2muc4u/?action=view&current=CIMG0361.flv
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05:57 <Durka_> >.<
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05:59 <spidey> what dorka :D
06:04 <Durka> -.-
06:08 <ct|kyle> dur
06:09 <ct|kyle> Durka:
06:09 <ct|kyle> .si durka
06:09 <ct|kyle> #si durka
06:09 <armabot> ct|kyle: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “durka” at the moment, sorry.
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06:25 <Durka> oi
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08:45 <deja_vu> good morning fellow tronners :)
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15:57 <z-man-work> negative rubber FTW!
15:57 <MrBougo> wtf
15:57 <MrBougo> how does that even work
15:58 <Flex> it doesn't :p
15:59 <wrtlprnft> it does
15:59 <wrtlprnft> kills everyone
16:05 <noob13> z-man-work: any idea what that error was about yesterday?
16:06 <noob13> was it caused by the 0 rubber?
16:06 <noob13> all seemed to work fine if rubber was >0
16:06 <z-man-work> Dunno, I'm running bugfarm on 0 rubber right now with no problems so far
16:07 <noob13> hm..we're running sty patched server. might be the reason?
16:08 <Flex> when we changed x sumo to 0 rubber, it went all crazy and killed the server
16:08 <Flex> i think it's a setting conflicting with the 0 rubber
16:09 <Flex> z-man-work, gotta try it with afew people
16:09 <z-man-work> Caught it just now.
16:15 <wrtlprnft> no experiments on poor animals!
16:16 <wrtlprnft> bugs have lives, too
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16:22 <z-man-work> No worries, it will live on in svn history.
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17:12 <epsy> z-man-work, is the feature lock effective ? :)
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17:13 <z-man-work> Only when another Triumvir stomps it.
17:13 <z-man-work> What are you up to?
17:14 <epsy> z-man-work, ignoring locked teams from team imbalance
17:14 <z-man-work> Thats a bugfix, I'd say.
17:14 <epsy> heh
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17:32 <Flex> #ping
17:32 <armabot> pong
17:34 <joda_bot> #pang
17:34 <joda_bot> aw
17:34 <Flex> #finger
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18:09 <epsy> #ping
18:09 <armabot> pong
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18:21 <Nyx> hello
18:22 <epsy> hi
18:22 <Nyx> i am wondering how to record on a mac.
18:22 <Nyx> I am running arma
18:23 <Nyx> i read the wiki article.
18:23 <Nyx> but still have no idea where to go, or what the help application is that it suggests i open.
18:23 <Nyx> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Debug_Recording
18:24 <Nyx> excuse me, i am running arma
18:24 <Nyx> not arma
18:25 <Nyx> sorry, i will be back shortly
18:28 <mkzelda> I'm sorry to have to tell you guys this but I will be back too
18:28 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8399 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tron/ (gCycle.cpp gWall.cpp): Moved emergency checkpoints in wall datastructure to a place where they'll hopefully cause less spam.
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19:04 <noob13> #hello
19:04 <armabot> Hello noob13 :) Quote #37: "Out of the whole multitude of prudent men in the world, the great majority are so from timidity. --Clausewitz" (added by Lucifer_arma at 12:40 PM, December 09, 2006)
19:07 <epsy> z-man-work, also, what do we do with the "\1 was smitten by an administrator" and the /invite message, you know, they don't appear in white
19:09 <z-man-work> Dunno. Do they get filtered names as arguments?
19:10 <epsy> yes, at least i think so
19:10 <epsy> just use 0xRESETT in the translations?
19:14 <z-man-work> Yep. And in the original, in case it's not there yet.
19:16 <wrtlprnft> z-man-work: i wondered, why isn't there a tColorString::ColoredString equivalent for 0xRESETT?
19:16 <wrtlprnft> maybe the same name without arguments
19:16 <wrtlprnft> instead of using white all over the place
19:17 <z-man-work> Certainly wouldn't hurt.
19:17 <wrtlprnft> when is out i'll do it on the trunk
19:17 <wrtlprnft> then we can always spontaneously color the console in any color we want
19:17 <wrtlprnft> (→ cockpit)
19:17 <wrtlprnft> maybe it actually qualifies for already, it's a bugfix :-)
19:18 <z-man-work> Dunno, the whole color system as it is is broken by design.
19:18 <wrtlprnft> yeah
19:18 <z-man-work> Colors and other attributes would need to be managed by a stack.
19:18 <wrtlprnft> but that's a trunk thing
19:18 <z-man-work> so you can say "this in red: bla bla, and now back to the previous color, please"
19:19 <z-man-work> Definitely trunk material, yes.
19:23 <wrtlprnft> also, having a function for 0xRESETT is a first step towards a stack-based system
19:23 <wrtlprnft> it could be a “pop stack” command later
19:24 <wrtlprnft> and the other color code function automatically push
19:24 <wrtlprnft> i think this would work in a great lot of places
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20:01 <MrBougo> o:
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20:03 <epsy> wrtlprnft, you here?
20:03 <hoax> epsy you the f**k was that lil nazi
20:03 <epsy> *who ?
20:03 <hoax> lol what was he saying
20:04 <epsy> crap
20:04 <epsy> you can go café, he's currently restarting his modem
20:04 <hoax> ip him, I hope he's not a regular player -.-
20:05 <epsy>
20:05 <epsy> that was his last ip
20:05 <epsy> hoax, it's far from being the first time
20:05 <hoax> find out who it is
20:05 <epsy> an idiot
20:07 <noob7> a german IP, Telecom user
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20:08 <hoax> he sucks at tron aswell :D
20:11 <noob7> when adding help topics via "/admin add_help_topic topic description text" it seems everything after the first word of "text" is lost? Oo
20:11 <noob7> ah quotes! dang
20:17 <wrtlprnft> noob7: ;-)
20:17 <wrtlprnft> epsy: i can't just block an entire class A network
20:17 <wrtlprnft> just hope he gets tired of it
20:26 <Nyx> hello
20:27 <epsy> wrtlprnft, indeed, but i think he wont get bored so fast :/
20:27 <Nyx> Would some one mind helping me out
20:29 <wrtlprnft> Nyx: can't if you don't say what your problem is
20:29 <wrtlprnft> epsy: well, it's the only weapon we have
20:29 <Nyx> people usually respond with confirmination that they will help me
20:29 <Nyx> but anyways
20:29 <wrtlprnft> you practically live in café
20:29 <epsy> Nyx, wait for a mac user is the only thing you can do, sorry
20:30 <Nyx> I read the debug recording article http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Debug_Recording
20:30 <wrtlprnft> i can't guarantee i can help you
20:30 <Nyx> but cant find out how to record on a mac
20:30 <Nyx> "Use the helper application included with the game to start or playback"
20:30 <epsy> wrtlprnft, http://www.db.ripe.net/whois?form_type=simple&full_query_string=&searchtext=
20:30 <Nyx> No idea what the helper app is. I ave arma
20:30 <Nyx> have*
20:31 <wrtlprnft> Nyx: it should always use if you use osX's terminal program
20:31 <epsy> wrtlprnft, there's an Absue contact section, if you are up for that
20:31 <wrtlprnft> /path/to/armagetronad/armagetronad --record /path/to/some/file/you/want/to/record/to.aarec.txt
20:31 <Nyx> i dont understand
20:31 <Nyx> it should always use?
20:31 <Nyx> The arma app should use the terminal program?
20:31 <wrtlprnft> no
20:32 <wrtlprnft> the regular app is always able to do a recording
20:32 <wrtlprnft> but it needs to be called in a special way
20:32 <Nyx> ok,
20:32 <wrtlprnft> the windows installer installs a link to the program that calls it with the right arguments to record
20:32 <Nyx> through the terminal program?
20:33 <Nyx> yes, i have noticed that before in the start menu
20:33 <wrtlprnft> i have no clue if there's a GUI way to record on macos
20:34 <Nyx> excuse my ignorance, whats a GUI?
20:35 <wrtlprnft> graphical user interface
20:35 <wrtlprnft> the kind of stuff you point and click to
20:35 <Nyx> user friendly
20:35 <wrtlprnft> epsy: that abuse address doesn't seem to be intended for that kind of abuse
20:35 <epsy> a GUI isn't always user friendly :)
20:35 <Nyx> whats the most common way?
20:36 <Nyx> i have terminal open if it has something to do with that
20:36 <wrtlprnft> well
20:36 <epsy> wrtlprnft, you prefer taking a lawyer? actually what he says is enough to get him to jail you know
20:36 <wrtlprnft> do you know the path of your armagetronad binary?
20:36 <wrtlprnft> epsy: have fun finding proof
20:37 <Nyx> hmm, no sorry
20:37 <wrtlprnft> well, IIRC, to install something on a mac you open the .dmg file and drag something from there to some location
20:37 <wrtlprnft> where did you drag it to? :D
20:37 <epsy> wrtlprnft, that was one of my points
20:38 <Nyx> applications most likely
20:39 <epsy> wrtlprnft, there are 'other' <option>s on that form :-P
20:39 <wrtlprnft> epsy: feel free to submit some log excerpts
20:39 <wrtlprnft> but don't expect too much of it
20:40 <wrtlprnft> Nyx: i don't regularily use a mac, sorry. Maybe you should really wait for a mac guy
20:40 <wrtlprnft> where's durka when you need him?
20:40 <Nyx> the arma mac versions are logged under ur name =P
20:40 <Nyx> but anyways, I have to go. But I will be around later
20:41 <Nyx> thanks for your help
20:41 <epsy> (wrtlprnft, btw, your mysqld seems to have died)
20:41 <wrtlprnft> epsy: by the way, from what he sais i'd age him at 12–16. Can't really harm him, at least in Germany
20:41 <wrtlprnft> Nyx: err, they are?!
20:41 <Nyx> last i checked, yes
20:41 <epsy> wrtlprnft, damned, france FTW
20:42 <epsy> at 14 you can get in jail
20:42 <wrtlprnft> epsy: err, i restarted it, but i think it ran fine
20:42 <wrtlprnft> epsy: well, in germany, too
20:42 <epsy> #lastseen epsy
20:42 <wrtlprnft> but only for really serious offences
20:42 <wrtlprnft> like murder
20:42 <armabot> epsy: ¦×¦epsy has last been seen on Fortress Café 5 minutes ago.
20:42 <Nyx> not any more i guess, use to say packager : wrtlprnft
20:42 <Nyx> bye
20:42 <wrtlprnft> cya
20:43 <wrtlprnft> epsy: by the way, his German is quite broken
20:43 <epsy> somewhat noticed
20:43 <wrtlprnft> 1612743 [5] Izual: morgen ist die zahl weg
20:43 <wrtlprnft> ?!
20:43 <wrtlprnft> i don't have to understand that, do i
20:44 <wrtlprnft> omg, how often did you silence him?
20:44 <wrtlprnft> restarting a modem takes more time for him than for you to ban him for a couple of weeks
20:44 <epsy> heh
20:45 <wrtlprnft> epsy: ok, line 1612801 of the logs IS extreme.
20:45 <wrtlprnft> i'm not copy and pasting that in here
20:45 <epsy> i dont usually vim files that big
20:46 <wrtlprnft> yeah, vim tends to get slow opening them
20:46 <wrtlprnft> maybe i should add some sort of log rotation
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20:46 <wrtlprnft> torres: << "hi there :-)"
20:46 <torres> hi there :-)
20:47 <wrtlprnft> epsy: i just hate dealing with the borders between two such files
20:47 <epsy> heh yeah
20:48 <wrtlprnft> well, anyways. If you silence someone for saying unacceptable stuff and they instantly rejoin feel free to ban them
20:48 <wrtlprnft> they should only build modems that break down if you restart them too often
20:49 <pippijn> -rwxr-xr-x 1 pippijn pippijn  46M 2008-04-08 20:48 run*
20:49 <pippijn> -rw------- 1 pippijn pippijn 187M 2008-04-08 20:43 run.s
20:49 <pippijn> large program..
20:49 <epsy> i got to communicate with him few hours earlier
20:50 <epsy> on the DS server, he got to come in like...5 mins after hoax started testing someone
20:50 <epsy> and of course started to fuck up the game
20:50 <wrtlprnft> 1612787 [5] Izual: was bessres haste ja wohl nicht zu tun ********?
20:50 <wrtlprnft> i was wondering the same about HIM
20:50 <epsy> wait..when is that from?
20:50 <wrtlprnft> when you were repeatedly silencing and suspending him?
20:51 <epsy> LOL
20:51 <wrtlprnft> s/him/it
20:51 <epsy> i asked him that in the DS serv
20:51 <epsy> well
20:51 <wrtlprnft> let me guess
20:51 <wrtlprnft> no reasonable response
20:51 <epsy> in something anyone could understand
20:51 <epsy> no, indeed
20:51 <wrtlprnft> i'd love to know how such idiots tick
20:51 <epsy> he just insulted me being a nazi, etc etc
20:52 <epsy> but i got few answers from him
20:52 <wrtlprnft> i thought HE was the nazi
20:52 <epsy> nothing very interesting
20:52 <epsy> he also said he was a communist lol
20:52 <wrtlprnft> clearly not yet 18
20:52 <wrtlprnft> or braindead
20:53 <epsy> communism is not bad in itself, it's just it's kind of fun
20:53 <epsy> that he thinks being one
20:53 <wrtlprnft> communism just tends not to work :-P
20:54 <epsy> yeah :/
20:54 <epsy> it just takes a few people to ruin everything
20:54 <wrtlprnft> P_failure ~ n_people ^ 2
20:55 <wrtlprnft> err, nvm
20:55 <wrtlprnft> that equation can't work
20:56 <wrtlprnft> maybe 1 - <some factor>/n_people
20:57 <epsy> #last --with bazaar
20:57 <armabot> epsy: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 1787 messages.
20:58 <epsy> *sigh*
20:58 <wrtlprnft> what are you looking for?
21:01 <epsy> a commit message from bazaarmagetron
21:03 <wrtlprnft> wrtlprnft: meh, always pull before you ci
21:03 <wrtlprnft> that's the last one…
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21:04 <epsy> on bzr or on svn?
21:06 <epsy> or was that a message to me?
21:16 <wrtlprnft> that was the latest bazaarmagetron message
21:16 <wrtlprnft> Commit by z-man :: r8399 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tron/ (gCycle.cpp gWall.cpp): (link) 
21:16 <wrtlprnft> Moved emergency checkpoints in wall datastructure to a place where they'll hopefully cause less spam.
21:16 <wrtlprnft> but that was a direct SVN commit
21:17 <epsy> hmm..
21:20 <epsy> why am i the only one constantly having problems with bazaarmagetron :/
21:21 <epsy> *cough* now zman will steal my commit again *cough*
21:21 <cusco> maybe u ought to use svn
21:22 <epsy> bah
21:22 <cusco> beh
21:23 <wrtlprnft> epsy: just wait a bit
21:23 <epsy> "a bit" ?
21:23 <wrtlprnft> just two hours, maybe bazaarmagetron is just taking its time
21:23 <epsy> hm
21:24 <wrtlprnft> ;-)
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22:10 <Nyx> hello
22:11 <StickyNoob> yo
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22:11 <Nyx> Are you a mac user?
22:11 <StickyNoob> nope
22:11 <Flex> #rating flex
22:12 <armabot> Flex: flex is 436th with a rating of 1588-1634 (from 1150-1850)
22:12 <Flex> :D
22:12 <StickyNoob> but i have played with a toy truck, its about the same level
22:12 <Nyx> Right
22:12 <StickyNoob> whats up?
22:12 <Nyx> moi?
22:13 <StickyNoob> you
22:13 <Nyx> I am trying to figure out how to create a debug recording for playback on a mac.
22:13 <Nyx> The Wiki page suggests I use "the helper application included with the game"
22:14 <Nyx> but I have no idea where that is, or if I even got it
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22:16  * StickyNoob is reading the discussion on it from 2006 
22:17 <Nyx> resourceful ;)
22:17 <StickyNoob> speaking of which what happend to 2020
22:18 <Nyx> Uhh
22:18 <Nyx> like you have not seen him/her?
22:18 <StickyNoob> no, not for ages
22:19 <Nyx> i assume 2020 is still around, but I wouldn't know best
22:19 <StickyNoob> just that he si commenting alot on the discussion: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=6591&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=45
22:21 <Nyx> while I am at it, some questions about console commands
22:22 <Nyx> when having a tournament or such, with the latest released server
22:22 <Nyx> max_clients will not allow others to enter if there is that many already there?
22:22 <wrtlprnft> yeah
22:22 <Nyx> last time I remember setting that, players could still enter...
22:23 <wrtlprnft> maybe someone switched to splitscreen
22:23 <StickyNoob> if you want to be sure to lock it, set it less than the number of players already in
22:24 <Nyx> The left over player.. will be put to spectate or kicked?
22:24 <Nyx> or nothing?
22:24 <wrtlprnft> nothing
22:24 <Nyx> ok
22:24 <Nyx> is their any easy way to sort out teams?
22:24 <Nyx> so the right people are on team 1 and right people on team 2
22:25 <Nyx> or do they just have to manually request to be on their team?
22:26 <wrtlprnft> how is the server gonna know who should be on which team?
22:27 <Nyx> it wont, obviously =P I am just looking for advice, like could the admin move players to a team?
22:27 <Nyx> ive had the expierence where people would get stuck on the wrong team, had to leave and all that fiasco
22:27 <Nyx> or auto_team 0 ?
22:28 <wrtlprnft> well, if by “latest version” you mean a recent alpha build you can appoint team leaders who can /lock teams and /invite players
22:28 <Nyx> so the player will choose the correct team when they enter
22:28 <wrtlprnft> Nyx: the most important thing is to set team_max_imbalance to something big
22:28 <wrtlprnft> otherwise it can get chaotic
22:28 <Nyx> Ah, that sounds great. But no, i do not have the latest alpha version
22:29 <Nyx> just the dedicated off the downloads page
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22:31 <Nyx> would turning off team_balance_on_quit and team_balance_with_ais be important?
22:32 <wrtlprnft> well, team_balance_with_ais is off by default, and you'd better leave it off
22:33 <wrtlprnft> team_balance_on_quit doesn't have an effect if the team sizes don't differ by more than team_max_imbalance
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23:45 <Flex> [22:49:47] <@StickyNoob> the ability to go up to fundies and say jesus is gay, I banged the shit out of him
23:45 <Flex> [22:49:59] <@StickyNoob> would be sweet
23:45 <Flex> [22:50:08] <@StickyNoob> id take pictures and everything
23:46 <Flex> warning: sticky is a homo :D
23:46 <Flex> or possessed by the devil
23:49 <epsy> <wrtlprnft> Nyx: the most important thing is to set team_max_imbalance to something big
23:49 <epsy> it's over
23:49 <epsy> hm, well, when bazaarmagetron wakes up
23:51 <epsy> z-man, wanna steal one more of my commits?
23:52 -!- baddog [n=Liam@d58-108-11-78.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["Leaving"]
23:53 <z-man> anytime, epsy.
23:54 <epsy> branch 0.2.8 r799 got stuck :-(
23:54 <z-man> Yeah, some days ago :)
23:54  * z-man unsticks it
23:55  * epsy thinks we'd better either stay completely on svn either move completely on bzr
23:55 <epsy> now that's up to the tritumvir :P
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23:59 <z-man> Odd, how did they all get locked?

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00:11 <epsy> #night
00:11 <armabot> Good night epsy!
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00:34 <Flex> #morning
00:43 <armabot> Good Morning Flex Random Fortune: Maintainer's Motto: || If we can't fix it, it ain't broke.
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00:47 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8400 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/ePlayer.cpp src/engine/eTeam.cpp): (log message trimmed)
00:47 <armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
00:47 <armabot> armagetronad: Automatic merging of commits that would change history order:
00:47 <armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------
00:47 <armabot> armagetronad:  revno: 798.1.1
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00:47 <armabot> armagetronad:  committer: epsy
00:48 <armabot> armagetronad:  branch nick: 0.2.8
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01:26 <madmax> Monkey_arma: i think i haven't played such a boring fortress game in a long time >_<
01:26 <Monkey_arma> heh
01:27 <Monkey_arma> it was absolutely rammed earlier...with about 20 people..all the hardcore fort players
01:27 <Monkey_arma> then it went dead
01:28 <Flex> why were you in spec the whole time Monkey_arma
01:28 <Monkey_arma> lol i wasnt
01:28 <Monkey_arma> just for a bit
01:28 <Flex> oh
01:28 <Monkey_arma> i was watching you and hoax to learn how to play
01:28 <Monkey_arma> not...
01:28 <Flex> hah
01:29 <Monkey_arma> i was chatting
01:29 <Flex> £>
01:29 <Monkey_arma> this was earlier
01:29 <Monkey_arma> Fortress Caf: Players (18/32): BIaly wilk PL, Blackbird (Hay-Lin@forums), cT_K-Yo (K-Yo@crazy-tronners.com), eddiefantastic, F!JS, hoop, Lackadaisical, MaZuffeR, Monkey (Monkey@x), TrT~Goku, van Nelle, |LB| ColonelJ, |x| $ubzero, |x|Cid, ~DaWg~,  Flex, epsy (epsy@x), xs20 (xs20@x)
01:30 <Flex> urm where's my tag
01:30 <Monkey_arma> good point
01:30 <Monkey_arma> and rico
01:30 <madmax> guess i was late
01:30 <Monkey_arma> yes
01:30 <Monkey_arma> :)
01:30 <Flex> hay-lin has improved alot
01:32 <Flex> #rating Hay-Lin@forums
01:32 <armabot> Flex: I don't know anything about 'hay-lin@forums'!
01:32 <Flex> #rating Hay-Lin
01:32 <armabot> Flex: hay-lin is 1263rd with a rating of 1533-1568 (from 1542-1575)
01:32 <Monkey_arma> she smurfs all the time
01:33 <Flex> lol smurfs with auth
01:33 <Monkey_arma> ye lol
01:33 <Flex> that's the new style
01:33 <Monkey_arma> gonzap has improved a lot
01:33 <Flex> i like it :p
01:33 <Flex> it's kinda good because, you can play in privacy from the total pricks
01:34 <Flex> unless she doesn't know she's visible with auth
01:35 <Monkey_arma> i dont think she minds..
01:35 <hoax> legio used to go to spec to chat....
01:36 <Flex> and...
01:36 <Monkey_arma> hoaaaaaaaaaaax
01:36 <hoax> would you wana be legio
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02:53 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/SSOAN/CTF/ctfsty-0.0.3.aamap.xml: Resource by SSOAN
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03:10 <Monkey_arma> does anyone here know the name of the setting that in CTF makes the tail not be created for the first few seconds while the cycle flashes?
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03:17 <Flex> i think you want invisible thing Monkey_arma
03:17 <Flex> the tail gets created i think
03:17 <Flex> oh and Monkey_arma, i got that wireless v wired test lol wired pwned by a long mile
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03:22 <Monkey_arma> :) wired rules
03:23 <Monkey_arma> i know i want invisible thing i dont know what its called...
03:23 <Monkey_arma> i tried searching the console for spawning stuff...but not much luck
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03:30 <Monkey_arma> ok we got it thx..its "cycle_wall_time"
03:33 <Monkey_arma> and cycle_invulnerable_time
03:33 <Flex> you want Manta for that
03:34 <Monkey_arma> we got it sorted Flex  thats what im saying
03:34 <Monkey_arma> come to the server
03:34 <Monkey_arma> no rubber ctf fort  settings
03:35 <Monkey_arma> itts bugged now...
03:35 <Monkey_arma> we are hitting the walls but not dying4
03:35 <Monkey_arma> -4
03:52 <StickyNoob> hay Monkey_arma
03:52 <StickyNoob> #list
03:53 <armabot> StickyNoob: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Format, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Insult, Karma, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Nickometer, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
03:53 <StickyNoob> #seen pipe
03:53 <armabot> StickyNoob: I have not seen pipe.
03:53 <StickyNoob> #seen tyler
03:54 <Monkey_arma> hi sticky
03:55 <Flex> hi Monkey_arma
03:55 <Monkey_arma> #lastseen tyler
03:55 <Monkey_arma> ...
03:55 <StickyNoob> #lastseen pipe
03:55 <Monkey_arma> hi flex
03:55 <Flex> xxx
03:55 <StickyNoob> sorry im just google stalking someone
03:55 <Monkey_arma> oO
03:56 <Flex> his bf talking nonsence on youtube
03:56 <Flex> it's probably some weird gag he's doing StickyNoob..
03:56 <StickyNoob> heh
03:56 <Flex> humour that british people don't get :p
03:57 <Flex> #lastseen monkey
03:57 <StickyNoob> yes yes im sure that he put an entry on youtube thinking: "Sticky who i have never spoke to will one day find this then try to track me down"
03:57 <Flex> and then say what?
03:57 <Monkey_arma> #slap armabott
03:57 <Monkey_arma> #slap armabot
03:57 <Flex> "urm hi, i saw your vid on youtube"
03:58 <StickyNoob> #ping
03:58 <Flex> "hello"
03:58 <Flex> "hi"
03:58 <Flex> where are you monkeh
04:02 <Monkey_arma> im in the server
04:02 <armabot> StickyNoob: I have not seen tyler.
04:02 <armabot> Monkey_arma: TYLER has last been seen on  ~*SpeederS*~ Server 5 minutes ago.
04:02 <armabot> StickyNoob: timed out
04:02 <armabot> Flex: foolish monkey seems to be on  Wild West  =Capture The Flag= right now.
04:03 <armabot> Monkey_arma slaps armabott for being a raving moron.
04:03 <armabot> Monkey_arma slaps armabot for being a raving moron.
04:03 <armabot> pong
04:03 <Flex> what's wrong with armabot
04:04 <Flex> StickyNoob, hoax come ctf no rubber
04:05 <hoax> #si c
04:05 <StickyNoob> naa
04:05 <armabot> hoax: Wild West  =Capture The Flag=: Players (9/10): *_* Kevin *_*, Apclypse Strykr, cmd.exe, Dimitrio, foolish monkey, Kane, Mr. Rogers, |CcE|Cock-QC, |n3va|jazz
04:05 <hoax> full of nooby american kids?
04:05 <hoax> oh, yes
04:05 <hoax> oh thats ww
04:05 <Monkey_arma> lmao theres a server.....
04:05 <Monkey_arma> #serverlist
04:06 <Flex> come back Monkey_arma
04:06 <hoax> no shit whats it called
04:06 <hoax> #armaservers
04:06 <armabot> hoax: This data is 42 seconds old; Wild West  =Team Sumo= (11/14), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (9/10), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (8/10), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (8/12), Wild West  =Fortress Shootout= (7/12), Nexus9 (NO RUBBER!) (6/16), Auctorita Clan DF Server                                      | (6/8), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (5/12), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (4/12), (1 more message)
04:06 <Monkey_arma> #more
04:06 <armabot> Monkey_arma: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more.  To do so, call this command with that person's nick.
04:06 <hoax> #more
04:06 <armabot> hoax: eQ. Clan Server dF. (3/8), NO RUBBER CTF (TEST) (3/10), Swampland in 0.2.8 (3/8), ~"XzL.Clan The Server (3/10), Norm's Place (3/12), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (2/12), |Forgotten Warriors~ Clan Server DF (2/8), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (2/16), WILDCAT (1/8), Gay People Only!!!! (1/16), E! (1/16), SPACEZONE I [HIGH SPEED!!] (1/8), SPACEZONE II S (1/15)
04:06 <hoax> #more
04:06 <armabot> hoax: Error: That's all, there is no more.
04:06 <hoax> you lie
04:06 <Monkey_arma> one there for hoax only
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04:14 <Monkey_arma> wb
04:14 <hoax-> thanks >.<
04:14 <hoax-> looks like your already in that serv btw ;)
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04:19 <Monkey_arma> heh
04:20 <Flex> my fucking freeview box goes into some stupid upgrade loop
04:20 <Flex> fucking stupid fucks
04:21 <Flex> fucking cunt, i go to do something and i come back and my freeview box is trying to upgrade..
04:22 <hoax> surely thats good
04:22 <Flex> na it bugs and stuck on upgrade
04:22 <Monkey_arma> is it not just slow to upgrade?
04:23 <Flex> i left it on all night once
04:23 <Flex> can't be that slow
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06:48 <Durka_> #m Your_mom_arma thanks for leaving! :(
06:49 <armabot> Durka_: The operation succeeded.
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07:23 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: ping, rmagick
07:23 <luke-jr> …
07:23 <wrtlprnft> revdep-rebuild doesn't catch it, in case you didn't notice
07:24 <luke-jr> ok
07:24 <luke-jr> and?
07:25 <wrtlprnft> so rebuild it manually :-o
07:25 <luke-jr> how?
07:25 <luke-jr> or rather, what?
07:25 <wrtlprnft> emerge -1 rmagick
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07:35 <luke-jr> done
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11:48 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: thanks, i'll rebuild the previews
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13:52 <epsy> any reason /promote doesn't obbey to ACCESS_LEVEL_OP_MAX ?
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14:47 <z-man-work> epsy: yeah. The purpose of access_level_op_max is just to protect against mistakes, if you later promote someone, it is supposed you know what you're doing.
14:50 <joda_bot> z-man-work: epsy: So instead of MAX the name is rather ACCESS_LEVEL_OP_REMOTE_MAX ?
14:50 <z-man-work> No, but what you want would be ACCESS_LEVEL_PROMOTE_MAX.
14:51 <epsy> z-man-work, so i should ignore it when someone *promotes* a player with the /op command
14:51 <epsy> right?
14:51 <z-man-work> Ah, oh, I forgot that's possible too
14:52 <z-man-work> maybe /promote and /demote should be completely removed.
14:52 <epsy> it's what i'm doing, merging them
14:52 <z-man-work> and /op should get the shuffle syntax.
14:52 <epsy> yeah
14:52 <z-man-work> and respect OP_MAX, of course.
14:53 <epsy> only when op'ing (=> authing to @L_OP), or even when we're "shuffling" his access level?
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14:56 <epsy> (and move ACCESS_LEVEL_OP_MAX to ACCESS_LEVEL_OP_DEFAULT, to be clearer)
14:57 <wrtlprnft> ACCESS_LEVEL_OP_DEFAULT_MAX maybe?
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14:57 <wrtlprnft> the default is max (own access level - 1, ACCESS_LEVEL_OP_MAX) IIUC
14:58 <epsy> true..
14:59  * wrtlprnft wonders how to recover from ACCESS_LEVEL ACCESS_LEVEL -1 ;-)
14:59 <wrtlprnft> and ACCESS_LEVEL USER_LEVEL -1
15:00 <epsy> /admin quit :)
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15:02 <wrtlprnft> no, the point is that even STDIN only has an access level of -1
15:02 <epsy> now if you have ACCESS_LEVEL QUIT -1, the only thing left is ^C :P
15:02 <epsy> i thought STDIN was at access level 0
15:03 <wrtlprnft> err, that's what i meant
15:03 <wrtlprnft> you could just use /admin EXIT
15:03 <epsy> haha
15:03 <wrtlprnft> or a config file with CASACL
15:04 <wrtlprnft> armagetronad-dedicated --doc | awk '{print "ACCESS_LEVEL " $1 " -1";}' > settings_custom.cfg
15:04 <wrtlprnft> bad idea, actually
15:05 <wrtlprnft> (armagetronad-dedicated --doc | grep -v ACCESS_LEVEL; echo ACCESS_LEVEL) | awk '{print "ACCESS_LEVEL " $1 " -1";}' > settings_custom.cfg
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16:37 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8401 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/ePlayer.cpp): epsy: /op now acts the same way as /shuffle. Removed /promote and /demote.
16:45 <wrtlprnft> epsy: don't forget the docs, all places where it exists :s
16:45 <wrtlprnft> NEWS, settings_authentication.cfg, english_base.txt, as far as i know
16:47 <epsy> ok, will do that later, i'm quite busy now
16:47 <wrtlprnft> just to make sure someone does it ;-)
16:47 <wrtlprnft> don't want to figure out the exact details on how it works from the source
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16:49 <epsy> K-Yo, peut être joint => joignable??
16:49 <epsy> je sèche là :/
16:51 <epsy> wrtlprnft, authd => just like shuffle
16:51 <epsy> wrtlprnft, non-authd => just as shuffle, but starts from the max..will have to fix that
17:00 <K-Yo> epsy, oui joignable ça existe
17:00 <K-Yo> join
17:01 <epsy> ptin d'autocorrecteur de merde
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18:01 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/SSOAN/ctf/pacman-ctf-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by SSOAN
18:08 <wrtlprnft> noob7: interesting idea…
18:08 <wrtlprnft> although the spawn points don't make too much sense
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18:12 <noob7> come play
18:12 <noob7> :P
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18:16 <wrtlprnft> where?
18:16 <wrtlprnft> #lastseen noob7
18:16 <noob7> #sd NO Rubber
18:16 <armabot> wrtlprnft: timed out
18:16 <armabot> noob7: NO Rubber CTF (TEST): Players (2/10): node7 (node7@forums), noob13 (noob13@forums)
18:21 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8402 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (4 files in 3 dirs): epsy: Updated NEWS (and the other edited files) about my last change.
18:39 <wrtlprnft> thanks :-)
18:59 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/SSOAN/ctf/pacman-ctf-0.0.2.aamap.xml: Resource by SSOAN
18:59 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/SSOAN/ctf/pacman-ctf-0.0.3.aamap.xml: Resource by SSOAN
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19:01 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/SSOAN/ctf/pacman-ctf-0.0.7.aamap.xml: Resource by SSOAN
19:05 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/SSOAN/ctf/pacman-ctf-0.0.8.aamap.xml: Resource by SSOAN
19:06 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/SSOAN/ctf/pacman-ctf-0.0.9.aamap.xml: Resource by SSOAN
19:08 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/SSOAN/ctf/pacman-ctf-0.0.10.aamap.xml: Resource by SSOAN
19:08 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/SSOAN/ctf/pacman-ctf-0.0.11.aamap.xml: Resource by SSOAN
19:19 <K-Yo> woot
19:20 <K-Yo> one map per minute :P
19:26 <noob7> map rotation ;)
19:26 <noob7> just differently places flags
19:27 <noob7> and I guess the last two maps are named wrong? :o
19:29 <wrtlprnft> no
19:30 <wrtlprnft> although there's two problems that don't matter too much right now:
19:30 <wrtlprnft> first, you're uploading different maps under the same map, so there isn't a “newest and best” version
19:31 <wrtlprnft> second, your name part contains a dash, which is bad because it makes it impossible to read the name and version just from the filename
19:31 <noob7> ok so underline instead of dash and version number in the name then, right? :)
19:32 <wrtlprnft> yeah, that would be good
19:32 <wrtlprnft> maybe don't call it a version number, maybe “variation number” might be good
19:33 <noob7> a-z instead of numbering maybe too? :P
19:33 <wrtlprnft> if you like
19:33 <wrtlprnft> it's your choice what you do :-)
19:34 <noob7> yay \o/
19:34 <noob7> :)
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20:54 <madmax> CTF is finally somewhat fun
20:54 <madmax> but put a disable high rim motd or something :-P
20:55 <noob7> redoing the maps atm :)
21:00 <Flex> is pacman any fun?
21:00 <noob7> the classic game? Oo
21:00 <Flex> no the arma version
21:00 <noob7> well it didnt end the way it was planned :D but if you can trust madmax it is :)
21:01 <Flex> oh, what happened..
21:01 <Flex> what was the idea?
21:01 <noob7> well... 1:1 pacman clone
21:01 <noob7> :D
21:01 <Flex> have you thought about doing a kind of zombie mod using the pacman idea
21:02 <Flex> like once touched/killed you change team to "zombie team"
21:02 <Flex> so then you can kinda get a pacman team game going
21:02 <noob7> I had a max of 4 players and equally many zombies in mind, I might still work on that idea, Pacman CTF first :)
21:04 <madmax> CTF with cycle_delay 0.1 and no rubber = good
21:04 <Flex> what about it starts off with everyone alive and randomly choosing 1 zombie, and he has to duplicate by killing everyone else
21:05 <Flex> it's highly additive :p
21:05 <noob13> :O
21:06 <Flex> well kill would turn him into a zombie spawn, here he'll spawn at the zombie box
21:06 <Flex> or whatever
21:06 <Flex> if they suicide they turn into a zombie too
21:09 <noob7> flex, maybe you wanna spam me with these ideas via PM, imma go cook something :)
21:09 <Flex> that was basically all i had :p
21:09 <Flex> but what do you think?
21:10 <noob7> nothing yet, need to eat first :P
21:10 <Flex> lol ok, get back to me :)
21:10 <noob13> hm..i wouldn't know how to pull that off..
21:10 <noob13> has it been done before?
21:10 <Flex> i dunno, but i'm sure it's possible
21:11 <noob13> most things are. but not for us noobs :P
21:12 <Flex> maybe eddiefantastic might be interested :p
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22:32 <noob13> would anyone care telling us what the doctype should be for sty/ctf maps?
22:32 <noob13> <!DOCTYPE Resource SYSTEM "map-"> does this look right?
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22:53 <K-Yo> emphasis, where are you?
22:53 <wrtlprnft> noob13: I'd use AATeam/map- 
22:54 <wrtlprnft> noob13: that works even without you putting it onto a special resource repository
22:54 <wrtlprnft> at least until some sleepy guy figures out what happened
22:55 <noob13> ok, thanks wrtlprnft.
22:55 <noob13> thats what we had before though
22:56 <noob13> and some ppl have said they get an error message because of it
22:56 <noob7> and some people clients were bitching
22:56 <noob7> indeed
22:56 <wrtlprnft> well, if you really want to be sure set up your own resource repository
22:56 <wrtlprnft> put the DTD into a dir named after you, like SSOAN
22:56 <wrtlprnft> and reference that
22:57 <wrtlprnft> there's generally a problem with luke-jr's DNS, it is slow and doesn't work for a whole lot of people, even if he tells us otherwise all the time
22:57 <noob13> right..
22:57 <noob7> hmkay, then lets try with AATeam/ first shall we 13?
22:58 <wrtlprnft> you might also try RESOURCE_REPOSITORY_SERVER http://resource.armagetron.at/resource/
22:58 <noob7> armagetron.at ? Oo
22:58 <wrtlprnft> it's a mirror that updates regularily and redirects to the real repository on 404
22:58 <noob7> ah ok
22:59 <wrtlprnft> and if it has the file it's totally independent of luke-jr's DNS
22:59 <noob7> how often does it update itself's repository?
22:59 <noob13> ..or can we upload to it directly?
23:00 <wrtlprnft> sec, gotta check on that
23:00 <wrtlprnft> every full hour
23:00 <noob7> ok, dang a couple minutes late :P
23:01 <wrtlprnft> but as I said, if the file isn't there it just redirects to luke-jr's repo
23:01 <noob7> ok then shall we try that 13?
23:01 <noob7> I'll upload the edited maps to the original repo again and you edit the cfgs ?
23:02 <noob7> thanks wrtlprnft :)
23:02 <noob13> yea ok..
23:02 <noob13> although we have to wait an hour?
23:03 <noob7> no, aa.at redirects to the original repo if the file isnt mirrored yet
23:03 <wrtlprnft> tell me when you're done, i'll run a manual update
23:03 <noob7> cool, even better
23:03 <noob13> great...
23:03 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: rsync: send_files failed to open "/add-resource.htpasswd.bak" (in armagetron-resource): Permission denied (13)
23:03 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: rsync error: some files could not be transferred (code 23) at main.c(1388) [generator=2.6.9]
23:04 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/SSOAN/CTF/pacman_ctf_a-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by SSOAN
23:04 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: just telling you there seems to be a not world-readable file on the server
23:04 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/SSOAN/CTF/pacman_ctf_b-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by SSOAN
23:04 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/SSOAN/CTF/pacman_ctf_c-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by SSOAN
23:05 <noob13> noob7: changed RESOURCE_REPOSITORY_SERVER http://resource.armagetron.at/resource/
23:05 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/SSOAN/CTF/pacman_ctf_d-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by SSOAN
23:05 <noob7> cool, thanks
23:06 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/SSOAN/CTF/pacman_ctf_e-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by SSOAN
23:06 <wrtlprnft> _e is … interesting …
23:06 <noob7> did I mess it up :o
23:06 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/SSOAN/CTF/pacman_ctf_f-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by SSOAN
23:07 <wrtlprnft> nono
23:07 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/SSOAN/CTF/pacman_ctf_g-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by SSOAN
23:07 <noob13> u can't actually see the flags in the previews..
23:07 <noob13> why is that?
23:07 <noob7> how does it differ...? I am confused wrtlprnft :P
23:07 <wrtlprnft> noob13: the bases are in the central areas
23:08 <wrtlprnft> noob13: not in the PNG previews on aabeta
23:08 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/SSOAN/CTF/pacman_ctf_h-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by SSOAN
23:08 <noob7> the bases are there in all maps :)
23:08 <wrtlprnft> err
23:08 <wrtlprnft> oops.
23:08 <noob7> ;)
23:08 <noob13> we could have changed that too thougg noob7
23:08 <noob13> for extra confusion :P
23:08 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/SSOAN/CTF/pacman_ctf_i-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by SSOAN
23:09 <noob7> true...
23:09 <wrtlprnft> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=17381
23:09 <noob7> we can do another 10 or so with bases somewhere
23:09 <wrtlprnft> that's what I use for previewing
23:09 <wrtlprnft> and it shows flag and ball zones
23:09 <wrtlprnft> and v2 polygonal zones
23:09 <noob7> haha your sig is hilarious btw :P
23:09 <wrtlprnft> http://resource.armagetron.at/resource/SSOAN/CTF/pacman_ctf_h-0.0.1.aamap.xml ← that one's assymmetric
23:10 <wrtlprnft> :-)
23:10 <noob7> and I saw that bookmarklet on eddies site I think
23:10 <noob7> will try that later, have been uploadinjg to his maptools so far :) but like 13 said the flags dont show
23:10 <wrtlprnft> well, they do using that script
23:10 <wrtlprnft> it's much more useful if it's installed as userJS/greasemonkey script
23:10 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/SSOAN/CTF/pacman_ctf_j-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by SSOAN
23:11 <noob13> thats the last?
23:11 <wrtlprnft> makes it really easy to browse apache directory listings
23:11 <noob7> yep, thats all 13
23:12 <noob13> from a to j... ok, i'll do the configs then
23:12 <noob7> ty :)
23:12 <noob7> browsing apache directory listings... I am not quite sure what you are getting at wrtlprnft :P
23:13 <wrtlprnft> like http://resource.armagetron.at/resource/SSOAN/CTF/
23:14 <wrtlprnft> click on a map and instantly get a preview
23:14 <wrtlprnft> scaled to fit your window
23:14 <noob7> ay!
23:18 <noob13> o0
23:18 <noob13> doesn't work for me..
23:18 <noob13> anyway the configs should be good
23:19 <noob13> as long as .at got updated
23:19 <noob7> coo!
23:19 <noob7> no also if not 13 :P
23:20 <noob13> or not..? resource_repository_server changed.. so..hmm?
23:20 <noob13> wanna go test it?
23:20 <noob7> if it isnt on AT yet, clients will be redirected to beta.aa.net
23:20 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r8403 /tools/map-preview-js/map-preview.js: hacky fix for the superfluous scrollbars in firefox
23:20 <noob7> yes U di
23:20 <noob7> erm? yes I do :)
23:20 <noob13> :D
23:21 <noob7> monkey just got back from his shoplifting tour, maybe he wanna hoin in? :)
23:21 <noob7> (and I am kidding, monkey paid for all the goods)
23:21 <wrtlprnft> t still appears to use the standard repo
23:47 <noob7> thanks again wrtlprnft :)
23:48 <wrtlprnft> no problem
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01:09 <noob7> #lastseen noob13
01:09 <noob7> armabot are you smoking that crack cocaine again?
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01:23 <noob7> wrtlprnft you need to get that dude checked out, he doesnt seem healthy to me
01:23 <Monkey_arma> mcp attack wtf!
01:23 <Ttech> 0.o
01:24 <noob7> Ttech, armabot :)
01:24 <Ttech> What happened/
01:24 <Ttech> heh
01:24 <Ttech> armabot, uptime
01:24 <Monkey_arma> when did this new game mode come about?
01:24 <Ttech> #uptime
01:24 <noob7> monkey I think a couple of weeks? maybe 3?
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02:17 <noob13> Monkey_arma: mcp attack has been up for some months..
02:17 <noob13> nobody gets it so far...
02:17 <noob13> noob7: armabot is a 'she'...
02:17 <noob7> months even? :o
02:17 <noob7> armabot is NOT a she
02:17 <noob7> wrtlprnft wants you believe IT is a SHE
02:18 <noob7> IT isnt a SHE
02:18 <noob13> :P
02:20 <Monkey_arma> i dont get mcp attack either
02:47 <noob13> o_0
02:48 <noob7> [02:55] * noob13 was kicked by noob7 (noob7)
02:48 <noob7> [02:55] <noob7> :haw:
02:48 <noob7> [02:56] <noob7> I guess he didnt appreciate that
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05:44 <Monkey_arma> segmentation fault in tron :(
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07:22 <wrtlprnft>   PID USER     PRI  NI  VIRT   RES   SHR S CPU% MEM%   TIME+  Command
07:22 <wrtlprnft>  5700 supybot   20   0  326M  258M  1708 D  0.9 68.7 81h25:20 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/supybot armabot.conf
07:22 <wrtlprnft> noob7_away: maybe that explains why it's so slow
07:22 <wrtlprnft> supybot leaks memory like hell
07:22 <wrtlprnft> infact, most python apps I've seen do
07:23 <wrtlprnft> #quit
07:29 <wrtlprnft> ah great, it responds to sigkill by using even more memory
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07:32 <wrtlprnft> #ping
07:33 <armabot> pong
07:38 <wrtlprnft> #ping
07:38 <armabot> pong
07:38 <wrtlprnft> better :-)
07:38 <hoax> #ping
07:38 <armabot> pong
07:38 <hoax> woot
07:39 <Monkey_arma> #lastseen wrtlprnft
07:39 <armabot> Monkey_arma: timed out
07:39 <hoax> #lastseen wrtlprnft |mbc|
07:39 <armabot> hoax: timed out
07:40 <hoax> #lastseen |x|_hoax
07:40 <hoax> any day now
07:40 <armabot> hoax: timed out
07:40 <hoax> lies
07:40 <Monkey_arma> bs total bs
07:40 <hoax> haha
07:40 <Monkey_arma> #lastseen hoax
07:40 <armabot> Monkey_arma: ¦×¦ Hoax has last been seen on  Wild West  =Team Sumo= 20 minutes ago.
07:40  * hoax agrees
07:40 <hoax> oh
07:41 <hoax> it got clever
07:41 <hoax> lukes ranking brought me down
07:41 <hoax> #rank xs20
07:41 <luke-jr> …
07:42 <hoax> lUkE-jR
07:42 <Monkey_arma> i think you want ranking
07:43  * hoax needs a good ranking
07:43 <Monkey_arma> #rating monkey
07:43 <armabot> Monkey_arma: monkey is 2106th with a rating of 1495-1512 (from 1483-1500)
07:43 <hoax> #rating xs20
07:43 <armabot> hoax: xs2o is 1286th with a rating of 1533-1557 (from 1552-1571)
07:43 <hoax> #rating |x|xs20
07:43 <Monkey_arma> #rating2 monkey cafe
07:43 <armabot> hoax: |x|xs2o is 1286th with a rating of 1533-1557 (from 1552-1571)
07:43 <armabot> Monkey_arma: monkey is 407th with a rating of 1494-1516 (from 1474-1494) on cafe
07:43 <hoax> #rating |x|_hoax cafe
07:43 <armabot> hoax: I don't know anything about '|x|_hoax_cafe'!
07:44 <hoax> #rating "|x|_hoax" cafe
07:44 <luke-jr> rating2
07:44 <armabot> hoax: I don't know anything about '|x|_hoax_cafe'!
07:44 <hoax> oh
07:44 <hoax> #rating2 |x|_hoax cafe
07:44 <armabot> hoax: |x|_hoax is 444th with a rating of 1486-1538 (from 1150-1850) on cafe
07:44 <hoax> been a while
07:44 <hoax> :|
07:44 <hoax> #rating2 |x|_infamous cafe
07:44 <armabot> hoax: |x|_infamous is 2nd with a rating of 1713-1754 (from 1705-1746) on cafe
07:44 <hoax> LOL
07:46 <Monkey_arma> #rating sticky
07:46 <armabot> Monkey_arma: I don't know anything about 'sticky'!
07:46 <Monkey_arma> #rating2 sticky cafe
07:46 <armabot> Monkey_arma: I don't know anything about 'sticky'!
07:47 <Monkey_arma> #rating armabot
07:47 <armabot> Monkey_arma: armabot is 12330th with a rating of 1150-1850
07:47 <luke-jr> lol
07:47 <Monkey_arma> !
07:47 <hoax> #rating2 |x|_sticky cafe
07:47 <armabot> hoax: |x|_sticky is 63rd with a rating of 1598-1633 (from 1594-1641) on cafe
07:47 <hoax> :o
07:47 <hoax> fuck im bad
07:47 <hoax> #rating2 |x|_fofo cafe
07:47 <armabot> hoax: |x|_fofo is 375th with a rating of 1500-1614 (from 1150-1850) on cafe
07:48 <Monkey_arma> #rating2 |x|_sticky
07:48 <armabot> Monkey_arma: (rating2 <an alias, 2 arguments>) -- Alias for "web fetch [format concat [format concat http://ratings.armagetronad.net/rating.php?slashes=1&system=[urlquote $2]][format concat &name=[urlquote $1]]]".
07:48 <Monkey_arma> #rating |x|_sticky
07:48 <armabot> Monkey_arma: |x|_sticky is 392nd with a rating of 1594-1623 (from 1565-1607)
07:48 <hoax> #rating2 |x|_flex cafe
07:48 <armabot> hoax: |x|_flex is 61st with a rating of 1599-1660 (from 1150-1850) on cafe
07:48 <hoax> if epsy is high ill cry
07:48 <Monkey_arma> #rating |x|_$ubzero
07:48 <hoax> #rating2 |x|_epsy cafe
07:48 <armabot> Monkey_arma: |x|_$ubzero is 985th with a rating of 1550-1591 (from 1150-1850)
07:48 <hoax> #rating2 |x|epsy cafe
07:48 <armabot> hoax: |x|_epsy is 527th with a rating of 1471-1573 (from 1472-1572) on cafe
07:48 <armabot> hoax: |x|epsy is 377th with a rating of 1499-1525 (from 1497-1521) on cafe
07:49 <hoax> heh
07:49 <Monkey_arma> #rating |x|$ubzero
07:49 <armabot> Monkey_arma: I don't know anything about '|x|$ubzero'!
07:49 <Monkey_arma> #rating zop
07:49 <hoax> #rating2 ~|ds|~Alien cafe
07:49 <armabot> Monkey_arma: zop is 317th with a rating of 1600-1656 (from 1602-1688)
07:49 <armabot> hoax: I don't know anything about '~|ds|~alien'!
07:49 <hoax> #rating2 ~|ds|~ Alien cafe
07:49 <armabot> hoax: ~|ds|~ is 1st with a rating of 1150-1850 on Alien cafe
07:49 <hoax> lol
07:50 <Monkey_arma> #rating2 zop cafe
07:50 <armabot> Monkey_arma: zop is 64th with a rating of 1598-1654 (from 1592-1680) on cafe
07:51 <Monkey_arma> #rating your_mom
07:51 <armabot> Monkey_arma: your_mom is 294th with a rating of 1603-1640 (from 1484-1510)
07:51 <Monkey_arma> #rating2 your_mom cafe
07:51 <armabot> Monkey_arma: your_mom is 448th with a rating of 1486-1690 (from 1486-1689) on cafe
07:51 <Monkey_arma> ?
07:52 <hoax> http://ratings.armagetronad.net/
07:52 <Monkey_arma> this dont work luke...this rating system is bs....its total bs
07:52 <hoax> nah its aight actually
07:53 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma is total bs ☺
07:53 <Monkey_arma> #rating madmax
07:53 <armabot> Monkey_arma: madmax is 268th with a rating of 1607-1634 (from 1619-1638)
07:53 <Monkey_arma> #rating2 madmax cafe
07:53 <armabot> Monkey_arma: madmax is 67th with a rating of 1596-1633 (from 1611-1648) on cafe
07:54 <hoax> #rating lackadaisical
07:54 <armabot> hoax: lackadaisical is 168th with a rating of 1626-1702 (from 1150-1850)
07:54 <hoax> #rating2 lackadaisical cafe
07:54 <armabot> hoax: lackadaisical is 28th with a rating of 1627-1710 (from 1150-1850) on cafe
07:54 <Monkey_arma> #rating 2020
07:54 <hoax> lol
07:54 <armabot> Monkey_arma: 2o2o is 12330th with a rating of 1150-1850
07:54 <Monkey_arma> lmao
07:54 <hoax> #rating2 2020 cafe
07:54 <armabot> hoax: 2o2o is 2074th with a rating of 1150-1850 on cafe
07:55 <luke-jr> 1150-1850 means "never played afaik" btw
07:55 <Monkey_arma> i take it back...its accurate
07:55 <Monkey_arma> no its not
07:55 <hoax> #rating2 luke-jr cafe
07:55 <hoax> #rating luke-jr
07:55 <armabot> hoax: luke-jr is 607th with a rating of 1456-1750 (from 1456-1749) on cafe
07:55 <armabot> hoax: luke-jr is 64th with a rating of 1659-1699 (from 1664-1695)
07:55 <hoax> ^^
07:56 <Monkey_arma> hmmmmmm
07:56 <luke-jr> #rating2 luke-jr eclipsed
07:56 <armabot> luke-jr: luke-jr is 5th with a rating of 1688-1728 (from 1692-1724) on eclipsed
07:56 <hoax> LOL
07:56 <Monkey_arma> #rating2 madmax nexus9
07:56 <armabot> Monkey_arma: madmax is 1st with a rating of 1150-1850 on nexus9
07:56 <hoax> sweet
07:56 <hoax> #rating2 |x|_hoax nexus9
07:56 <armabot> hoax: |x|_hoax is 1st with a rating of 1150-1850 on nexus9
07:56 <Monkey_arma> #rating2 mr_evil_guy nexus9
07:56 <hoax> ??????
07:57 <armabot> Monkey_arma: mr_evil_guy is 1st with a rating of 1150-1850 on nexus9
07:57 <hoax> eh?
07:57 <Monkey_arma> its bs its total bs
07:57 <hoax> #rating2 |x|_flex nexus9
07:57 <armabot> hoax: |x|_flex is 1st with a rating of 1150-1850 on nexus9
07:57 <hoax> oooook
07:57 <Monkey_arma> #rating2 mr_evil_guy nexus
07:57 <armabot> Monkey_arma: mr_evil_guy is 1st with a rating of 1150-1850 on nexus
07:57 <hoax> #rating2 |x|_flex arandomserver
07:58 <armabot> hoax: |x|_flex is 1st with a rating of 1150-1850 on arandomserver
07:58 <hoax> ...lol
07:58 <hoax> didnt think nexus was included
07:58 <Monkey_arma> #rating2 monkey ctf
07:58 <armabot> Monkey_arma: monkey is 1st with a rating of 1150-1850 on ctf
07:58 <Monkey_arma> #rating2 monkey wild west ctf
07:58 <armabot> Monkey_arma: monkey is 1st with a rating of 1150-1850 on wild west ctf
07:58 <hoax>  1150-1850
07:58 <hoax> ...
07:59 <Monkey_arma> #ss
07:59 <armabot> Monkey_arma: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “(urlquote” at the moment, sorry.
07:59 <Monkey_arma> #serverlist
07:59 <hoax> #armaservers
07:59 <armabot> hoax: This data is 16 seconds old; Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (8/10), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (4/10), levi's df (testing( (3/16), Auctorita Clan DF Server                                      | (3/8), Norm's Place (3/12), >>> FAST TRACK RELOADED (VERY HIGH SPEED) <<< (3/8), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (2/12), WILDCAT (2/8), Wild West  =Fortress Shootout= (1/12), Auctorita High (1 more message)
07:59 <hoax> #more
07:59 <armabot> hoax: Rubber (1/8)
07:59 <hoax> <3
07:59 <hoax> #si rubber
07:59 <armabot> hoax: -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber <: Players (2/12): -DSS- GEX, Zak
07:59 <luke-jr> [01:00:17] <luke-jr> 1150-1850 means "never played afaik" btw
08:00 <Monkey_arma> #rating2 monkey wild_west_=capture_the_flag=
08:00 <hoax> slim pickings @ this time o day
08:00 <armabot> Monkey_arma: monkey is 1st with a rating of 1150-1850 on wild_west_=capture_the_flag=
08:00 <luke-jr> #rating2 monkey ww_ctf
08:00 <armabot> luke-jr: monkey is 810th with a rating of 1552-1583 (from 1566-1683) on ww_ctf
08:00 <Monkey_arma> aha ty
08:00 <hoax> #rating2 |x|_hoax EVERYSERVERINTHEWORLD
08:00 <armabot> hoax: |x|_hoax is 1st with a rating of 1150-1850 on EVERYSERVERINTHEWORLD
08:00 <hoax> 8)
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15:43 <noob7> #later tell durka dude hit me up on msn or something please
15:43 <armabot> noob7: The operation succeeded.
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18:56 <K-Yo> #tea
18:56 <armabot> K-Yo: Fortress Café: Players (11/32): !noob!, /dev/null/h4ck, de806, Parkour, Player 1, pwnzorz, Shaft, someUnLovely (epsy@x), ~|DS-t|~Fabi, ~|DS|~zion
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22:37 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8404 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. NEWS language/english_base.txt src/engine/ePlayer.cpp): epsy: /players now shows the players' color and allows searching ( thanks to kyle for the patch, even if it didn't work :) )
22:41 <epsy> don't smite me don't smite me
22:41  * epsy becomes small
22:41 <wrtlprnft> epsy: nice bugfix you have there :-P
22:42 <epsy> indeed /players was TOTALLY unreadable!
22:42 <epsy> and jeez, what a mess when you have many players :-)
22:44 <wrtlprnft> somewhat true
22:44 <epsy> don't smite me either for the search 'trick' (solid tho) :P
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22:46 <wrtlprnft> hmm, there's another modification, the access level is shown even for hidden people
22:46 <wrtlprnft> so now you know if a Player 1 is really a player who's hiding
22:46 <epsy> ah, i wondered why nothing was there
22:47  * epsy suggests letting ( ) in place
22:47 <wrtlprnft> tToLower( search );
22:47 <wrtlprnft> that sounds somewhat wasteful
22:48 <wrtlprnft> and i can search for players by color code now!
22:48 <epsy> well..what if our user puts a capital in his haystack
22:48 <epsy> indeed :P
22:49 <wrtlprnft> it's not exactly performance critical, but converting the searched string to lowercase for every player is somewhat unnecessary
22:49 <epsy> oh, indeed
22:49 <wrtlprnft> maybe use that performance gain to strip the player's output line of colors before searching
23:08 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8405 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/ePlayer.cpp): epsy: Whoops. Put the search string to lowercase only one time and filter colors in the line we're searching in.
23:11 <wrtlprnft> epsy: better :-)
23:12 <wrtlprnft> updated the café binary
23:12 <epsy> argh, i was gonna fix the /op thing
23:12 <epsy> :P
23:12  * ct|kyle is updating CT's once i get the stuff i need
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23:13 <wrtlprnft> epsy: well, i'll be going to bed soon
23:13 <epsy> not quite sure if this bug even exists
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23:18 <epsy> yes, it behaves as expected,
23:18  * epsy is just pessimistic :)
23:19 <luke-jr> optimistic*
23:20 <wrtlprnft> more bugs = more fun
23:20 <ct|kyle> cool i can crash epsy's client again
23:20 <ct|kyle> :D
23:21 <epsy> ct|kyle, actually i just did something stupid and lost one point :)
23:22 <ct|kyle> lol
23:22 <ct|kyle> :D
23:23 <ct|kyle> i wonder why that does that epsy
23:23 <epsy> i wonder too
23:23 <epsy> not the first time it happens
23:23 <wrtlprnft> maybe you can crash epsy's brain firmware
23:23 <epsy> eps. with AIM people
23:23 <wrtlprnft> #nightt
23:23 <epsy> esp.*
23:23 <wrtlprnft> #night
23:23 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
23:23 <epsy> ct|kyle, you were contacting me via AIM, right?
23:23 <epsy> gn wrtlprnft
23:23 <ct|kyle> yes
23:24 <ct|kyle> now how do i get zthreads on debian
23:24 <epsy> bah, wish i had a less-buggy version of my WM, i'm not getting error logs and such
23:24 <epsy> hmm..
23:24 <epsy> wait for 3 years?
23:25 <epsy> oops, typo, i meant 30 years
23:25 <ct|kyle> :(
23:26  * epsy personally never got it to work
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23:42 <noob13> ct|kyle, the way we eventually got it working is by installing it with --prefix=/usr/ and the required -fpermissive flag
23:42 <noob13> i guess its not so pretty
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23:53 <ct|kyle> noob13:  sounds like fun, i'll try it later

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00:31 <noob7> hey madmax
00:32 <madmax> hi
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01:38 <Flex> http://flickr.com/photos/7347635@N07/2365027192/sizes/l/
01:39 <noob7> that little girl in pink is so cute
01:39 <noob7> "whe da bat ah?"
01:39 <StickyNoob> ok im not even going to think about clicking that now
01:39 <noob7> Oo
01:43 <Flex> hahaha StickyNoob
01:43 <ct|kyle> Flex: that you getting owned
01:43 <Flex> it's the classic baseball bat flying into the crowd and tooken at the second of impact
01:44 <StickyNoob> HOLY SHIT
01:44 <StickyNoob> bet that hurt
01:44 <Flex> i'm not quite sure if it's sensible to laugh.. someone commented that he actually died of internal bleeding.. first thoughts was the fact of if he's actually ok
01:44 <StickyNoob> hmm i wouldnt beile the internal bleeding thing
01:45 <StickyNoob> *belive
01:45 <Flex> that's a definite broken jaw though
01:45 <StickyNoob> unless he somehow fell off his seat onto a spike
01:45 <Flex> i'm no doctor, but internal bleeding is still possible..
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01:46 <StickyNoob> from a hit on the jaw?
01:46 <Flex> that's high impact to the head..
01:46 <StickyNoob> Flex: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQGyH2o2KmA&feature=related
01:47 <noob7> physics nerds, calculate impact pressure
01:47 <noob7> ty
01:47 <ct|kyle> possible if they are "<name for that one condition that internal bleainging is easy>
01:47 <ct|kyle> bleeding*
01:47 <Flex> omggggg
01:47 <noob7> bleeders?
01:47 <noob7> Oo
01:47 <Flex> that's fake dude
01:47 <Flex> or real, kids are pretty light
01:49 <StickyNoob> most of this one is crap but towards the end the guy with the snake had me crying with laughter for ten min, i dont know why: http://gawker.com/377201/the-dangers-of-being-a-television-news-reporter
01:50 <Flex> hahahah ouch nice slap
01:54 <Flex> UK Official: “Rape is Like Being Force-Fed Chocolate Cake”
01:54 <StickyNoob> where is that from?
01:54 <Flex> http://londonist.com/2008/04/rape_is_like_being_force-fed_chocolate_cake_blogs_bnp_official_.php
01:55 <StickyNoob> oh ffs BNP
01:55 <StickyNoob> wankers
01:55 <Flex> haha actually i kinda agree abit :p
01:55 <Flex> "Rape is simply sex (I am talking about 'husband-rape' here)... Women enjoy sex, so rape cannot be such a terrible physical ordeal…To suggest that rape, when conducted without violence, is a serious crime is like suggesting force-feeding a woman chocolate cake is a heinous offence.”
01:56 <StickyNoob> err, you agree?
01:56 <Flex> if you give me a good reason why women don't go around raping men
01:57 <StickyNoob> what you want me to give you a reason?
01:57 <StickyNoob> well for one the average woman would have trouble overpowering the average guy
01:57 <Flex> let's start again, i don't agree with him, i think he has a point
01:57 <noob7> sticky: roofies
01:58 <Flex> what does men not being raped by men have anything to do with power?
01:58 <StickyNoob> noob7: hard for guy to get erection while not concious
01:58 <Flex> by women^^
01:58 <noob7> sticky, think so? Oo
01:58 <noob7> I disagreee
01:58 <noob7> never woken up to a blowjob?
01:58 <Flex> more like it's hard to loose an erection while not being concious :p
01:59 <noob7> but rape is not funny, so I'll keep any further comments to myself
01:59 <StickyNoob> Flex: when did we get on to male-male rape, and yes it happens quite often
01:59 <luke-jr> Flex: what about if women don't enjoy sex?
01:59 <noob7> then they are frigid bitches!
01:59 <noob7> woops
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02:00 <Flex> that's where the line ends luke-jr, but apart from that i think the guy that said that has a point
02:00 <StickyNoob> NO HE DOSENT
02:00 <Flex> StickyNoob, i meant women lol, i corrected the sentance
02:01 <Flex> StickyNoob your point being the reason why females don't go around raping guys is because they can't inpower them, which is bullshit
02:01 <Flex> because probably 90% of the guys aren't going to resist
02:01 <StickyNoob> well there are many men that like being shagged by other men, 1 in 5 to be exact. so being raped like a man is like being forced to eat ice cream
02:01 <StickyNoob> *by
02:02 <Flex> basically to sum up what that guy said is pure and simple, the guy is thinking about how he feels about being raped by the opposite sex. typical for politicians.
02:03 <StickyNoob> Flex: you have a very adolescent view of sex if you think being jumped and threatend on the street will be a pleasureable experiance that guys will like
02:03 <Flex> dude, if i knew i was going to get free sex if i walk outside now into a dark allyway by a female, i'd get my coat :D
02:03 <noob7> sticky you are a prude, everybody likes a little "force" ;)
02:03 <StickyNoob> free aids too?
02:03 <Flex> ok that i'd pass
02:04 <noob7> who says female rapists dont care for condoms?
02:04 <Flex> but trying to prove your arguement that rape means aids is not going to change views
02:04 <StickyNoob> well they dont care about you so dont care if they give you aids
02:04 <noob7> they do, otherwise they wouldnt rape me, duh
02:04 <Flex> we're talking rape here, not "rape with added deseases"
02:05 <StickyNoob> Flex: thats a stupid argument
02:05 <noob7> but I still cant compare rape to cake
02:05 <Flex> oh come on, how many people in the uk even have aids
02:05 <StickyNoob> thats "i want to get raped by a person who i would sleep with anyway"
02:05 <noob7> 73,000 people – or around 0.2% of the adult population
02:06 <noob7> says avert.org
02:06 <Flex> 0.2% chance to get aids from the total population
02:06 <StickyNoob> BUT my guess is that figure shoots up rapidly for the number of rapeists that have stds
02:06 <noob7> but we dont know the % for rapists :P
02:06 <noob7> why do you think thats is sticky?
02:06 <Flex> how many of the poplattion are rapests the figures drop till it's pointless adding 'aids' and 'rape
02:07 <StickyNoob> Flex you really dont understand stats do you
02:07 <noob7> how many % of people are rapists? how many % of people are STD positive? where do these groups connect?
02:07 <Flex> but you're saying all rapests carry aids..
02:07 <StickyNoob> no im not
02:08 <noob7> anyways, rape is not cake
02:08 <noob7> bye
02:08 <Flex> i'm not in the idea of thinking rape is cake, never was
02:08 <StickyNoob> im saying there is a VERY good chance that there is a higher rate of STD's among rapeists
02:08 <Flex> i'm just saying that guy has a point because he's thinking about himself and how thinks about rape to 'HIM'
02:08 <StickyNoob> no hes dosent have a point
02:09 <Flex> to a man, sex can happen any time he prefers and to men that's like 90% time right.. so he probably likes chocolate cake 90% of the time lol
02:10 <StickyNoob> hes interpreting the feelings of a group hes not a member of about an experiance hes never had.  you know flex likes to blow guys on street corners, im not saying you do just thats how I think about you
02:11 <Flex> haha
02:11 <Flex> fantastic, and i think the whole idea of rape to a guy is chocolate cake
02:11 <StickyNoob> thats why your a fuckwhit
02:12 <Flex> i'm a fuckwhit because i think rape isn't a big deal to men?
02:12 <StickyNoob> YES
02:12 <Flex> did you get raped by a female?
02:13 <StickyNoob> no, but i would find it very traumatic if i did
02:14 <StickyNoob> also you are not really thinking the position through, in your mind you are always going to have the physical upper hand against a woman so arnt in any real danger.  But for women who are totaly overpowerd by a man, how do they know they are not about to be killed after
02:18 <Flex> i'm not arguing about how women feel and how i think they feel, i know it's a big deal being raped from a womens prespective and i know i can never know how they see it and how they feel, but i'm a guy and i'm thinking rape from a female isn't scaring me.. if i add the fact that i might get killed after or other fucked up stuff well that's another story, that i simply can't judge because i haven't been there..
02:19 <Flex> you can't say i'm wrong about how *I* feel about rape
02:19 <StickyNoob> yes i can
02:19 <Flex> to myself from a female, no you can't
02:19 <StickyNoob> yes i can
02:19 <StickyNoob> since your feelings are not about rape, they are about sex
02:20 <noob7> flex check my handy tutorial about pheromone extraction in the armagetronad.co.uk forums VIP section
02:20 <noob7> ;)
02:20 <Flex> i don't have vip access :(
02:20 <noob7> :(
02:21 <Flex> so StickyNoob, how am i going to experence the rape?
02:21 <Flex> in my ear?
02:21 <StickyNoob> rape is nothing like sex
02:22 <Flex> noob7, why do you have a tutorial on pheromone extraction?
02:23 <noob7> hmmmm.. its not mine
02:24 <noob7> I just reposted it there, can be found in GBS on something awful
02:24 <noob7> playing atm, might dig out the link for ya later
02:24 <noob7> I just dont want you raping people
02:24 <noob7> so maybe it will help you :)
02:24 <noob7> :P
02:24 <Flex> StickyNoob, if the guy doesn't wanna be raped - he's simply not going to get an erection.. doesn't that end the whole rape scene right there?
02:24 <StickyNoob> why dont you become a prostitute, it will be great, you will get to shag loads of really hot women. one could ask the question why hot women need to pick up prostitues and infact you would probably only get cutomers who noone will shag but still lets not mess with the fantasy getting sex by any means
02:25 <noob7> sticky that is bullshit too
02:25 <noob7> you think only ugly people go to prostitutes?
02:25 <noob7> Oo
02:25 <noob7> really?
02:25 <StickyNoob> i think people who have emotional problems go to prositutes
02:26 <noob7> thats a different issue
02:26 <StickyNoob> any way men cant be forced to get an erection WRONG
02:26 <noob7> yeah, I was just about to say... you cant hold back an erection
02:26 <Flex> if i'm shitting my pants being raped, i'm not going to get a boner..
02:27 <StickyNoob> men useualy ejeculate while being analy, does that mean they liked it?
02:27 <StickyNoob> * analy raped
02:28 <Flex> do women being raped get orgasm's?
02:28 <StickyNoob> no
02:28 <noob7> some do
02:28 <StickyNoob> actualy true i dont know that onw
02:28 <StickyNoob> one
02:28 <noob7> its still such a silly analogy, cake and rape gah
02:28 <StickyNoob> ill bet HEAVILY they dont tho
02:29 <Flex> some do, he's right
02:29 <StickyNoob> fine so what does that prove?
02:29 <Flex> i just wanted to know
02:29 <noob7> I orgasm if I get a finger in my ass while having sex too, even if not warned beforehand, I am pissed if not warned tho
02:29 <noob7> and thats the difference
02:29 <StickyNoob> exactly
02:30 <Flex> ok enough detail noob7
02:30 <Flex> lol
02:30 <noob7> Oo
02:30 <noob7> you'd orgasm too
02:30 <StickyNoob> its a biological response
02:30 <noob7> we are talking about rape
02:30 <noob7> so we are talking about sex
02:30 <noob7> and we are having an honest discussion
02:30 <StickyNoob> you cant say you can refuse to get an erection
02:30 <noob7> indeed, no chance there
02:30 <Flex> i wouldn't know, i've never been forced to have an erection :(
02:31 <StickyNoob> well it can be done(nb i havnt tried)
02:31 <Flex> hahah
02:33 <StickyNoob> anyway the prositute thing was about the fact that flex has a fantasy of a hot (or atleast not terrible) woman free of std's "rapeing" him in a non violent and non threatening manner, thats just not reality thats a fantasy, and its not rape its sex
02:33 <noob7> I agree, kinky sex indeed :)
02:34 <noob7> but why would a male rapist get her horny first and then rape her? I do not think thats part of a typical rapists fantasy of rape
02:34 <StickyNoob> he dosent
02:34 <Flex> does he even care..
02:35 <StickyNoob> how did i imply he does?
02:35 <noob7> but hey... who am I to know, maybe there are male rapists that just tie their "victims" and then "have sex with them" which might even be "enjoyable" for both involved
02:35 <Flex> i meant he probably doesn't even care..
02:35 <noob7> but if a female does not agree to sex, its still rape
02:35 <noob7> its like shoving a huge plug up your ass
02:35 <noob7> even if I lube it up first
02:35 <noob7> and you orgasm
02:35 <StickyNoob> good isnt it
02:36 <StickyNoob> yeah the finger one is not bad too
02:36 <noob7> :o
02:36 <Flex> so you've been raped then huh?
02:36 <StickyNoob> no
02:36 <noob7> hmmm
02:36 <Flex> not you, noob7
02:36 <noob7> no
02:37 <Flex> so where does the line stop? you didn't want it to happen but she/he did it anyway
02:37 <StickyNoob> he did the plug himself, delf rape
02:37 <StickyNoob> *self
02:37 <noob7> yes, I drugged myself then plug raped my ass
02:37 <noob7> flex, yes, and the other way around as well, you can get your partner hot even if at first they dont want to
02:38 <noob7> but in a relationship its different anyways
02:38 <noob7> its not a random person
02:38 <noob7> maybe we should move to #cakerape ?
02:38 <Flex> this is a dicussion where StickyNoob is acting as if i support rape..
02:39 <StickyNoob> http://www.well.com/~cynsa/cement.html
02:39 <StickyNoob> you do
02:39 <noob7> I already did
02:39 <Flex> it's not the case and i don't even fantasize that bullshit you said
02:39 <Flex> no i don't support case
02:39 <Flex> rape^
02:39 <StickyNoob> weird typo
02:40 <Flex> i was reading my last sentance
02:40 <noob7> flex, I understand the point you are trying to make, but a men cant compare cake to rape, never
02:40 <noob7> not chocolate cake
02:40 <noob7> *man
02:40 <StickyNoob> maby being forced to eat shit cake ill agree
02:40 <noob7> fuck my english
02:40 <Flex> i'm thinking outside the box and i'm thinking in the mind of the guy who said the qoute
02:40 <noob7> I know flex, he was trying to be "edgy" I think
02:40 <noob7> and he failed
02:41 <noob7> just my opinion tho :)
02:41 <noob7> want some strawberry cake?
02:41 <Flex> a guy who is a billionaire can't know how welfare feels, so neither can any of us even if you were low on cash last weekend
02:41 <StickyNoob> eh?
02:41 <noob7> flex, if you know people that are on welfare you can, even if you arent on welfare yourself
02:42 <noob7> I am pretty sure I can understand how being raped "can be like"
02:42 <noob7> even as a man, unraped
02:42 <Flex> i don't think you fully can
02:42 <noob7> not fully
02:42 <noob7> find me one rape victim that agrees with the cake theory
02:42 <noob7> and I might reconsider my opinion
02:42 <StickyNoob> no you cant fully, but empathising so patheticaly that you think it could be enjoyably is fucked up
02:44 <noob7> see if I dont want to party, but 5 friends show up at my place with a case of beer and make their way to my livingroom, I might be having fun later on anyways, but after they left and I see all the spilled beer and the burnmarks on my couch, I will move back to "fuckers"
02:44 <Flex> noob7, the cake theory to a female isn't going to happen, but to a guy? let's see..
02:45 <StickyNoob> Flex: again thats your fantasy of rape not reality
02:46 <noob7> its a fantasy of being dominated, not necessarily "rape"
02:46 <noob7> #cakerape
02:46 <StickyNoob>  remember that such situations are far more intense than you think, before you get robbed you probably think "oh they just took some suff i can replace it", but people get VERY upset knowing people have broken into their homes
02:46 <Flex> i don't have the urge to be dominated..
02:47 <StickyNoob> got mugged once, I got pretty upset about it considering i lost in total £5
02:47 <Flex> StickyNoob it's a thin line between 'being able to replace the stolen stuff' or being upset you can't recover those stuff..
02:47 <StickyNoob> even if its just a tv
02:47 <noob7> no its the "invasion of privacy" part
02:47 <noob7> think about someone rummaging thru your stuff while you are away
02:47 <Flex> StickyNoob was probably the honour side of it rather then the £5
02:48 <StickyNoob> i could replace my £5 with an hours work at Mc donalds
02:49 <noob7> and it's sad you dont want to be dominated, I had this nice little ad for craigslist all typed up :(
02:49 <StickyNoob> yeah it is what actualy happend you would say was pretty mundane but i still got upset by it
02:50 <noob7> can I print this log now?
02:50 <StickyNoob> log?
02:51 <noob7> oh and flex, here's the recipe: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2820525
02:51 <noob7> the chatlog :)
02:51 <noob7> my the rapist might like it
02:51 <Flex> what
02:51 <noob7> therapist
02:52 <StickyNoob> jimmy carr?
02:52 <noob7> Oo
02:52 <StickyNoob> did you read http://www.well.com/~cynsa/cement.html
02:52 <Flex> do we have to..
02:52 <StickyNoob> yes
02:53 <Flex> i'm using my free-get-out-of-readin-a-homo-topic card
02:53 <StickyNoob> its great
02:53 <noob7> meh, whatever floats their boat I guess
02:53 <noob7> if both consent
02:55 <StickyNoob> fantastic: "Examination of the specimen revealed a perfect concrete cast of the rectum"
02:55 <StickyNoob> i imagine luke-jr's head has exploded by now
02:57 <noob7> is he a rape victim or a chocolate cake lover`?
02:57 <StickyNoob> just not a fan of the gays
02:58 <noob7> bet he doesnt like the idea of abortion or hippies smoking weed on his lawn either then? :D
02:59 <StickyNoob> not sure i like the idea of hippies smoking weed on my lawn
03:00 <noob7> oh I sure do like the idea, hippies always share their weed
03:01 <Flex> now we know where you're from noob7 :D
03:01 <noob7> orly?
03:01 <Flex> no not really
03:02 <noob7> I never hid the fact that I am from Germany :)
03:02 <StickyNoob> oh god, ive been talking to a German
03:02 <noob7> not gay, not married, havent been raped yet, no STDs
03:02 <noob7> we also share some opinions sticky :o OH GOD!
03:02 <Flex> haha sticky
03:03 <Flex> yeah, you guys are both against rape ;)
03:03 <Flex> oh and don't mind having anal orgasims
03:03 <noob7> :D
03:04 <noob7> whats to mind about orgasmns?
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03:28 <Flex> noob7
03:28 <Flex> come pacman ctf ;)
03:29 <noob7> sorry was afk
03:29 <noob7> #sd PACMAN
03:29 <armabot> noob7: Pacman CTF (TEST): Players (2/10): |x| Sticky, ¦×¦ Flex
03:32 <Flex> kyle
03:32 <Flex> ct|kyle
03:32 <Flex> come Pacman CTF :D
03:35 <ct|kyle> no i broke my printer
03:35 <noob7> throw it outr
03:35  * ct|kyle is attemting to fixing
03:35 <noob7> and play
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03:48 <ct|kyle> heh it still prints broken
03:48 <ct|kyle> #ls flex
03:48 <armabot> ct|kyle: timed out
03:49 <Flex> PACMAN CTF
03:49 <Flex> Come
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05:00 <Durka_> o_O
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05:07 <noob7> durka you cunt
05:07 <noob7> #later tell Durka_ msn?
05:07 <armabot> noob7: The operation succeeded.
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06:48 <Ttech> Fun Fact of the Moment: Every day more money is printed for monopoly than the US Treasury.
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07:42 <luke-jr> Ttech: I would sure hope so.
07:42 <luke-jr> if the US treasury printed at the same rate, USD would be worth as much as monopoly money
07:43 <wrtlprnft> that wouldn't be a bad thing
07:43 <wrtlprnft> buying an entire street for $2000
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08:00 <Durka> wrtlprnft: u here?
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09:32 <Durka> wrtlprnft: I got wrtlpwnd :\
09:36 <Durka> is anyone here?
09:36 <Durka> I swear I'm always on at the "dead hour"
09:38 <joda_bot> Durka: here
09:38 <joda_bot> ?
09:38 <Durka> yea, but you're a bot :P
09:39 <Durka> joda_bot: have you tried voodoo's camera widget?
09:45  * wrtlprnft is here now
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09:47 <joda_bot> Durka: I guess no ... as I use 0.2.8.x
09:48 <Durka> joda_bot: for some reason, the code is in the cockpit file, but it's not working ... :S
09:49 <joda_bot> wrtlprnft: can u read me ?
09:49 <joda_bot> wrtlprnft: I did not send empty messages ;)
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12:26 <Sticky_> sadiq: yes
12:27 <Sticky_> oops
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20:04 <guru3> z-man-work: what do you think of a default login for clients?
20:04 <z-man-work> eh? what would that be?
20:04 <guru3> a setting so that if they do /login with nothing instead of nothing it sends whatever-domain.com
20:04 <guru3> sort of a client side alias
20:05 <guru3> because i'm hearing this excuse of people not typing in full domain names for logging in a lot
20:05 <guru3> as reasons for a short name
20:05 <guru3> and that's not what short names are
20:05 <guru3> they aren't even short names
20:05 <guru3> they're fullaliases
20:05 <z-man-work> That's what the global ID setting already does, I think.
20:05 <guru3> well tell people about it
20:06 <guru3> or really
20:06 <guru3> verify it does that
20:06 <guru3> and i'll tell them
20:06 <guru3> so that i don't have people asking for me to give out domain names like halloween candy
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20:48 <wrtlprnft> with recent clients you can login without a single chat command
20:49 <wrtlprnft> even automatically
20:49 <wrtlprnft> even without typing a password
20:49 <z-man-work> Yep.
20:49 <z-man-work> But we can't get it to work with old clients, of course.
20:50 <wrtlprnft> onet
20:50 <z-man-work> And I don't think you need to give out tons of domain names if you only accept those fullfiling the criteria on the wiki.
20:50 <wrtlprnft> *one thing that might be possible is having the server assume @forums if you type /login without parameters and the entered username doesn't exist
20:51 <wrtlprnft> @ct @forums @x… all sounds easy to me
20:51 <noob7> did durka not get a shorthand name for durkadurkaland yet?
20:52 <wrtlprnft> i haven't seen anyone logged in as @dork yet…
20:53 <noob7> because his registered members mostly had either registered nicks at other authorities yet or dont play on other servers (and DDL does not support auth as of yet)
20:53 <noob7> assuming here...
20:54 <wrtlprnft> you might add “luckily” to that statement ;-)
20:54 <noob7> lol why is that?
20:55 <wrtlprnft> only total newbs have an account at ddl but not at forums.aa.net
20:55 <ct|kyle> :( me is a total n00b
20:55 <K-Yo> wrtlprnft, there is no @ct yet
20:56 <K-Yo> at least that's why ct|kyle told me last time
20:56 <ct|kyle> i have not been able to use it anyway
20:57 <wrtlprnft> i think i saw some @ct guy, not sure
20:58 <ct|kyle> wrtlprnft: locat alias
20:59 <ct|kyle> local*
20:59 <wrtlprnft> /etc/hosts?
20:59 <epsy> well, http://ct.authentication.armagetronad.net/
20:59 <epsy> (unreachable link)
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21:05 <ct|kyle> it would be really nice if guru3 would as @ct though
21:07 <Flex> you guys don't deserve it
21:07 <Flex> neither does ddl!
21:07 <ct|kyle> sorry epsy :D
21:07 <epsy> ?
21:07 <noob7> Oo
21:08 <ct|kyle> i crashed your client again
21:08 <epsy> rofl
21:08 <epsy> try again :P
21:08 <ct|kyle> your not on aim
21:09 <ct|kyle> :D
21:09 <epsy> i wonder if i'm still banned from #pidgin
21:09 <ct|kyle> why is that
21:10 <epsy> when some software crashes on you on a single message..wouldn't you get angry at it's devs?
21:11 <ct|kyle> wiat you use pidgin?
21:11 <epsy> because kopete is weird
21:11 <ct|kyle> that is crazy I use pidgin too
21:11 <ct|kyle> try IMing me
21:15 <Flex> http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/11/nvidia-continues-to-hate-on-intel-promises-sub-45-integrated-c/
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22:29 <luke-jr> http://www.penisland.net/
22:32 <ct|kyle> that your chuch's name
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23:04 <Flex> hey Monkey_arma
23:04 <epsy> hi Flex, Monkey_arma
23:04 <Flex> hi epsy
23:05 <epsy> found a pidgin plugin..GNU Talk Filters
23:05 <Monkey_arma> hi hooooooooooooooooo
23:05 <Flex> why don't you just use amsn
23:05 <epsy> allows me to apply some crazy filters to outcoming text
23:05 <epsy> because amsn doesn't let me use jabber and also sucks ?
23:06 <epsy> i can show you a comparison
23:06 <Monkey_arma> is it game time?
23:06 <Monkey_arma> #tea
23:06 <armabot> Monkey_arma: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): -=IsY| Gazelle, 23, CT_emmy, killerbees19, Tîger, ¦$¦pEeD
23:06 <epsy> no, it's time for a pointless argument with Flex :D
23:07 <Flex> huh
23:07 <Flex> what, why, when
23:07 <noob7> about cake?
23:07 <Flex> we're over that
23:07 <noob7> :(
23:07 <Flex> You Know You’re an Atheist When…
23:07 <Flex> - Your old Bible is placed in the —fiction“ section of your bookshelf.
23:07 <Flex> - You know more about something you don‘t believe in than most people who do believe in it.
23:07 <Flex> - You get offended if someone asks if being an atheist is like being an Agnostic.
23:08 <hoax> :) i can have an argument with flex anytime, cafe?
23:08 <Monkey_arma> cafe is filling up
23:08 <Flex> that's sticky right there :D
23:08 <Flex> y0 StickyNoob, i found something for ya :D
23:08 <Monkey_arma> are you not atheist Flex
23:09 <Flex> no
23:09 <Flex> what you assumed i was?
23:09 <Monkey_arma> not sure
23:09 <epsy> gay
23:09 <Monkey_arma> i am atheist
23:09 <Monkey_arma> god wtf
23:09 <Flex> i was an agnostic till stickywhore said i wasn't
23:10 <Monkey_arma> ah
23:10 <Monkey_arma> well i am atheist/agnostic...much nearer atheist
23:10 <hoax> cafe
23:10 <hoax> f
23:10 <hoax> t
23:10 <hoax> w
23:10 <Flex> because i refuse to deny the existance of god
23:10 <Monkey_arma> i say it is possible but i dont fink so !
23:10 <Flex> i'm noy going to hell that's for hella sure :D
23:11 <Monkey_arma> i am 99%+ atheist
23:11 <noob7> only if you accept god before you die you wont
23:11 <noob7> and why do you believe in hell if you dont believe in god?
23:11 <noob7> even if you refuse to deny his existence :)
23:11 <Flex> hahahah Monkey_arma, what the other 1% is you're a jewish fundie :D
23:11 <Monkey_arma> i said +
23:11 <Monkey_arma> what is a fundie?
23:11 <Flex> fundamentalist
23:12 <Monkey_arma> heh
23:12 <Flex> like luke-jr and StickyNoob
23:12 <Monkey_arma> StickyNoob, is not a fundamentalist is he?
23:12 <noob7> stickynoob is a fundie? Oo
23:12 <Monkey_arma> luke-jr,  is
23:12 <Flex> StickyNoob is.. he's an extreme atheist..
23:12  * Monkey_arma looks for wiktionary
23:13 <noob7> but does he accept if people disagree with him and have their own belief?
23:13 <Flex> they're practically the same type of people :p
23:13 <Flex> ofcourse not
23:13  * noob7 will only answer with questions today
23:13 <noob7> ...if that is ok?
23:13 <noob7> :D
23:14 <Flex> i can't even remember what i am.. i assumed i was an agnostic but i'm something else now
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23:15 <Monkey_arma> flex if you are not sure if god exists you are agnostic
23:15 <Monkey_arma> if you are sure he dont you are atheist
23:15 <Monkey_arma> if you think he does you are a believer
23:15 <Flex> that's not an agnostic Monkey_arma
23:15 <Monkey_arma> yes it is
23:15 <noob7> how can you ever be sure. you can only believe to be sure. if that makes sense
23:15 <Flex> no it's not according to StickyNoob
23:15 <noob7> I never got atheism
23:15 <Monkey_arma> true atheists are sure within themselves that god dont exist
23:16 <Monkey_arma> agnostics "dont know"
23:16 <noob7> sure "within themselves" is "believeing", not "being sure"
23:16 <Flex> re-research it Monkey_arma
23:16 <Monkey_arma> in their head they are sure
23:16 <noob7> but my english sucks so how would I know
23:16 <Monkey_arma> i have
23:16 <Monkey_arma> i read wikipedia
23:16 <Flex> double check
23:16 <Flex> not wikipedia either
23:16 <noob7> flex do your own homework :P
23:16 <Monkey_arma> and atheists do not believe
23:16 <Flex> i did, you cuntwanks recheck your shit
23:17 <noob7> <- agnostic then
23:17 <Monkey_arma> flex agnostic means not sure
23:17 <Monkey_arma> dont know etc
23:17 <noob7> I tend to believe I AM GOD
23:17 <noob7> but I am not sure
23:18 <Flex> Monkey_arma
23:18 <Flex> http://www.okcupid.com/tests/take?testid=5417702750852963024
23:18 <noob7> ok copuid is a really reliable source, much better than wiki :P
23:18 <noob7> taking that test tho
23:19 <Monkey_arma> no thx..i dont need a test to tell me what i am thinking
23:20 <Monkey_arma> flex you must be reading something wrong...from what i see agnostics are exactly as i described
23:21 <Monkey_arma> ok guys its cafe time....
23:21 <Monkey_arma> #tea
23:21 <armabot> Monkey_arma: Fortress Café: Players (11/32): -=IsY| Gazelle, .:] flash (flashy@forums), 23, CT_emmy, JP_Walla, killerbees19, noob13 (noob13@forums), Player 1, SIWELCELA, ~|DS|~G5, ¦×¦epsy (epsy@x)
23:21 <noob7> fucking assholes tell me to register AFTER taking the test?
23:21 <noob7> fuck em
23:23 <Flex> dude
23:23 <Flex> just continue
23:23 <noob7> no?
23:23 <Flex> they still give you your result
23:23 <Flex> there's no need to register
23:23 <noob7> I wont sign up for OKcupid, just because
23:23 <Flex> [22:29:06] <Flex> they still give you your result
23:23 <Flex> [22:29:11] <Flex> there's no need to register
23:24 <noob7> window closed
23:24 <noob7> meh
23:24 <noob7> <- agnostic anyways
23:24 <Flex> [22:29:20] <Flex> [22:29:06] <Flex> they still give you your result
23:24 <Flex> [22:29:23] <Flex> [22:29:11] <Flex> there's no need to register
23:24 <Flex> [22:29:34] <Flex> [22:29:20] <Flex> [22:29:06] <Flex> they still give you your result
23:24 <Flex> [22:29:34] <Flex> [22:29:23] <Flex> [22:29:11] <Flex> there's no need to register
23:24 <noob7> but maybe we should move non arma related discussions to #cakerape like suggested yesterday
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01:52 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: by the way you got your definition of atheist way wrong
01:52 <StickyNoob> well not so much atheist you were more wrong on agnostic
01:55 <hoax> shit you guys seen this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1czBcnX1Ww
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01:56 <StickyNoob> and as for accepting other peoples belifs I accept people have the right to have their own belifs but that does not mean in the slightest that i have to respesct them or not question them
01:57 <StickyNoob> hoax: yeah saw that a while ago
01:57 <noob7> sticky you fundamentalist }:|
01:57 <noob7> kidding here
01:57 <noob7> you fucking hippie
01:58 <hoax> yeah i thought u might have sticky ;)
01:58 <StickyNoob> me a hippy?
01:58 <hoax> the bit on ice is :o
01:58 <StickyNoob> ok it is my email address i know
01:59 <StickyNoob> hoax: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vwZ5FQEUFg
02:00 <hoax> shit man, how long till terminator
02:00 <StickyNoob> already done
02:01 <StickyNoob> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRKksfKDIto
02:03 <noob13> DONKEY!
02:03  * noob7 hole yheartedly agrees
02:03 <hoax> sigh i dont know
02:04 <StickyNoob> hoax: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMkV8E2re9U&feature=related that one has some demos of it fireing too
02:04 <noob7> I mean DONKEY
02:04 <StickyNoob> at the end
02:04 <hoax> k
02:04 <hoax> hopefully all this shit is used 'correctly'
02:05 <StickyNoob> hell no
02:05 <StickyNoob> all along the south-north korean border
02:05 <noob13> I really liked that donkey robot, i'd use it to go to school and back
02:06 <StickyNoob> t a large extent I am certain it is all show, i dont believe at all they have flicked these things on to automatic on the border
02:06 <StickyNoob> *to
02:06 <hoax> hah its samsung lol
02:07 <hoax> one software error etc..someone could get killed
02:07 <hoax> not good
02:07 <StickyNoob> well its korean everything made in korea is either samsung or lg
02:07 <hoax> its inevitable though
02:08 <hoax> i dont really mind if that stuffs made by south korea ;D
02:08 <StickyNoob> the US have targets very soon to move a large percentage of their land vehicles over to automated
02:12 <hoax> we need sensible people like sticky in charge of this stuff ^^ xD
02:12 <StickyNoob> not realy
02:12 <StickyNoob> we would all be doomed
02:12 <hoax> hah
02:25 <hoax> #tea
02:25 <armabot> hoax: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
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03:46 <Durka_> #help lastseen
03:46 <armabot> Durka_: (lastseen <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/lastseen.php?player=@1+@2+@3+@4+@5+@6+@7+@8+@9".
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04:03 <noob13> #armaservers
04:03 <armabot> noob13: This data is 42 seconds old; Wild West  =Team Sumo= (11/14), Wild West  =Fortress Shootout= (10/12), Nexus9 (NO RUBBER!) (9/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (9/10), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (9/16), Auctorita Clan DF Server                                      | (8/8), Norm's Place (8/12), |FA| BLACK ICE (7/16), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (7/10), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (7/12), (2 more messages)
04:04 <noob13> #more
04:04 <armabot> noob13: Swampland Mud Puddle (7/8), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (6/12), |Forgotten Warriors~ Clan Server HR (4/12), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (3/12), eQ. Clan Server dF. (3/8), Wild West  =Sumo= (3/14), The YELLOW Submarine (3/16), nixda.net - The Race (3/16), []=[].SniperzKlan Arena<--->CTF Shooting.[]=[] (2/8), Crazy Tronners Ladle Fortress (1/16), nixda.net - Classic (1 more message)
04:04 <noob13> #more
04:04 <armabot> noob13: (1/16)
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05:39 <Durka_> hoax: !
05:41 <ct|kyle> dorko
05:41 <hoax> Durka_: !
05:42 <Durka_> gayle!
05:42 <Durka_> hoax meet me in ddl
05:43 <Durka_> #ddl
05:43 <armabot> Durka_: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “durka” at the moment, sorry.
05:43 <hoax> ew :|
05:43 <Durka_> :o
05:43 <luke-jr> ddl sux
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05:43 <luke-jr_> luke-jr: RTFM!
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05:43 <luke-jr> pwnt
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05:43 <luke-jr> pwnt
05:44 <Durka_> it was totally worth it :D
05:44 <Durka_> hoax: :(
05:44 <hoax> 2mins
05:45 <Durka_> u wackin it?
05:45 <hoax> posting
05:46 <flea> lol
05:46 <hoax> ^^ flex's sister ^^ ?
05:46 <Durka_> LOL! no that's "Flea |DpG|" (dookatee's bitch)
05:47 <Durka_> actually dookatee is flea's bitch
05:47 <flea> what have i missed
05:47 <hoax> #D u
05:48 <hoax> #si D u
05:48 <armabot> hoax: - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | -: Players (3/16): fook mee, fook yoo, lets fook, War Mon/<ey
05:48 <ct|kyle> flea: durka pwning luke-jr
05:48 <Durka_> hoax: nvr mind
05:48 <Durka_> i'm out
05:48 <hoax> byebye
05:48 <hoax> o/
05:48 <Durka_> #help ddl
05:48 <armabot> Durka_: (ddl <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "serverinfo durka".
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05:48 <armabot> Durka_: The operation succeeded.
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05:49 <armabot> Durka_: The operation succeeded.
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05:49 <Durka_> rawr
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18:03 <noob7> #cheers
18:03 <armabot> noob7: [] Cheers! [] Clan War In Progress...: Players (11/0): BmKCopp, BmKGoDlIk3, BmKJust, BmKScrp, noob13, noob7, one/arm\bandit, |BmK|kþ, |LB| ColonelJ, |LB| Jason X, |LB|Burnzy
18:05 <hoax> lol
18:05 <noob7> LB v. BmK xD
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18:39 <epsy> noob7, ping
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18:46 <K-Yo> epsy, ping
18:47 <epsy> are you noob7 ?
18:47 <K-Yo> no
18:47 <epsy> so what..
18:47 <K-Yo> how is your isp doing?
18:47 <epsy> fine
18:47 <K-Yo> hum
18:47 <K-Yo> I lag like mad since yesterday
18:47 <K-Yo> and 23 does too
18:48 <K-Yo> ti don't know why
18:48 <K-Yo> c'est injouable
18:48 <epsy> ah, ça
18:49 <epsy> le truc que ça s'arrete de fonctionner pdt 30 secondes?
18:49 <K-Yo> ouep
18:49 <K-Yo> mais 3 fois par round
18:49 <epsy> ah carrément
18:50 <K-Yo> si c'est comme ca demain je pourrai pas jouer pour le ladle
18:50 <epsy> c demain?
18:50 <epsy> #time
18:50 <armabot> epsy: 06:57 PM, April 12, 2008
18:51 <epsy> o ptin
18:51 <hoax> * FoFo aime les hommes avec epsy et dimbi et parfois K-Yo *
18:52 <madmax> o_o
18:52 <K-Yo> eh oui c'est demain
18:52 <K-Yo> et on est samedi
18:52 <epsy> ben merde
18:52 <K-Yo> et hier c'étati vendredi
18:52 <K-Yo> en effet
18:52 <K-Yo> free a interet a se bouger le cul
18:52 <epsy> jvoyais le truc comme dans une semain ou qqch
18:52 <K-Yo> raté
18:52 <K-Yo> :P
18:52 <K-Yo> c'est arrivé vachement cite
18:53 <K-Yo> il y avait qu'une semaine pour s'inscrire
18:53 <K-Yo> je crois
18:53 <hoax> fbx.proxad.net est seulement pour les gays
18:53 <hoax> xD
18:53 <K-Yo> maybe i'm not at proxad :/
18:54 <K-Yo> "@unaffiliated/hoax" is for gheys too :P
18:54 <hoax> haha
18:55 <hoax> proxad is big in france?
18:55 <epsy> actually it's called free.fr and it powns your ass with 28MB/s
18:55 <hoax> i see it alot
18:55 <hoax> & dont say powns
18:55 <K-Yo> http://www.free.fr
18:56 <hoax> :D
18:56 <epsy> they're the 4th op in france
18:56 <K-Yo> but 1st in price
18:56 <noob7> *pwns :eng101:
18:56 <epsy> K-Yo, hein?
18:56 <hoax> 'free' eh
18:56 <epsy> noob7, (2008-04-12 18:45:07) Martin: and if you speak to node, ask him to upgrade me and circ please ;)
18:56 <epsy> (2008-04-12 18:45:09) Martin: craze@x
18:56 <K-Yo> they're the cheapest ISP in france
18:56 <epsy> er..no
18:56 <hoax> ' but 1st in price' haha kyo u work for them? :D
18:56 <epsy> there are some at 14€/month
18:56 <noob7> craze plays again? Oo
18:57 <K-Yo> what speed do you get with 14€/month?
18:57 <hoax> bs u get 28meg
18:57 <epsy> well yes, he told me he was playing right now
18:57 <epsy> K-Yo, 10MB/s i guess
18:57 <K-Yo> that's why
18:57 <epsy> yeah but it's cheaper :P
18:57 <hoax> madmax Lackadaisical KoD playing tomorrow?
18:58 <K-Yo> 29/month for 20+Mb/s is the cheapest price/speed
18:58 <K-Yo> better? :D
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18:58 <K-Yo> boo
18:58 <epsy> hahha
18:58 <epsy> and you have with that TV ODV phones, and other stuff too
18:59 <Lackadaisical_> hoax: I'm not, not sure about the others
18:59 <hoax> pff
18:59 <hoax> madmax are you?
19:00 <epsy> hoax, a good reason to move to nice
19:00 <epsy> K-Yo, c koi ton hostmask
19:00 <Lackadaisical_> I didnt see x signed up either, or are you waiting till 23.59?
19:00 <hoax> i guess
19:01 <hoax> epsy, except all the french people that are there :/
19:01 <epsy> hoax, seems you dont know what stands in nice
19:01 <hoax> what?
19:01 <epsy> FuFu
19:01 <epsy> :D
19:02 <hoax> lol
19:02 <hoax> of course :)
19:02 <epsy> ofc you would move there ? xD
19:02 <hoax> no of course phopho is there
19:03 <epsy> hahaha
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19:10 <noob7> YO!
19:11 <K-Yo> oi
19:11 <K-Yo> epsy, mon hostmask? comment ça c'est quoi? o_O
19:11 <epsy> le truc que tu caches
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19:12 <K-Yo> proxad ;)
19:12  * Durka_ holds out frenchfry and waits for epsy to fight K-Yo for it :O
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19:12 <epsy> oui ça j'imagine bien
19:12 <Durka_> ah, too late, bip got it :>
19:12  * K-Yo is not hungry
19:12 <epsy> ****.fbx.proxad.net
19:12 <epsy> c quoi le **** ?
19:13 <epsy> moi j'ai mar75
19:13 <K-Yo> ah le point relais ou je sais pas quoi
19:13 <epsy> ...
19:13 <K-Yo> de mémoire c'est 92gre
19:13 <K-Yo> euh alors gre92
19:13 <epsy> bizar
19:13 <K-Yo> on est relié à quel niveau?
19:14 <K-Yo> pke si on a le mm probleme c'est que ca vient d'assez haut
19:14 <K-Yo> fof il a pareil?
19:14 <epsy> jen c rien
19:14 <K-Yo> il faudra lui demander si on le croise
19:14 <K-Yo> ou bip
19:14 <K-Yo> je sais pas c'est quoi leurs isp
19:15 <K-Yo> 23 il a pareil mais je sais pas ou il habite
19:15 <epsy> fo il a ptet changé
19:15 <K-Yo> et vood il a orange
19:15 <epsy> lol
19:15 <K-Yo> ><
19:16 <epsy> remarque ya pire
19:16 <epsy> SFR adsl..
19:16 <epsy> dirtybox
19:16 <epsy> *dartybox
19:16 <epsy> ki utilise sa serieux xD
19:17 <K-Yo> lool
19:17 <K-Yo> dartybox j'ai cru cétait un fake au début :P
19:17 <epsy> rofl
19:17 <epsy> d'ailleurs, free avait postulé pour la 4em license de réseaux cellulaires en france
19:17 <epsy> la demande avait étée rejetée
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19:19 <K-Yo> a htoo bad
19:20 <K-Yo> mais en mm tps je sais pas si je prendrait un port free
19:20 <K-Yo> vu comment ca plante facilement
19:20 <epsy> jme demande skon aurait eu ac eux
19:21 <epsy> haha on aurait des trucs genre le PTT XD
19:21 <epsy> mais un forfait ac tt illimité direct..la classe
19:22 <K-Yo> trop
19:23 <Durka_> bonjour je parle français fluent ! jajaja !
19:24 <epsy> mais je vois pas trop pkoi on a parlé de *free* qui postulait pr cette license
19:24 <epsy> (et pas de illiad)
19:25 <epsy> aujourdhui on entend dire que cette 4em license serait abandonnée
19:25 <epsy> :/
19:25 <luke-jr> liar
19:26 <epsy> #last --from luke-jr --no-limit
19:26 <armabot> epsy: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; (1 more message)
19:26 <epsy> #last --from luke-jr --nolimit
19:26 <armabot> epsy: [19:32:26] <luke-jr> liar, [05:50:27] <luke-jr> pwnt, [05:50:15] <luke-jr> pwnt, [05:49:40] <luke-jr> ddl sux, [22:35:41] <luke-jr> http://www.penisland.net/, [07:48:59] <luke-jr> if the US treasury printed at the same rate, USD would be worth as much as monopoly money, [07:48:42] <luke-jr> Ttech: I would sure hope so., [02:06:01] <luke-jr> Flex: what about if women don't enjoy sex?, [23:26:07] (1 more message)
19:27 <epsy> very punctual interventions there :P
19:28 <Ttech> omg
19:28 <Ttech> wtf is that
19:30 <epsy> a bot
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19:46 <noob7> LOL
19:46 <epsy> wait..
19:47 <noob7> I needed that laugh :P very nice situation comedy
19:47 <epsy> -NickServ- You cannot GHOST yourself.
19:47 <epsy> haha
19:49 <madmax> hoax: not sure i can play
19:52 <hoax> :/
19:52 <hoax> well, its your organisation..but i expect to see some other team signed up by tonight :p
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21:30 <Monkey_arma> has the ladle started?
21:31 <noob13> there's a ladle?
21:32 <Monkey_arma> lol
21:32 <Monkey_arma> yes
21:32 <noob13> 2nd question: what IS the ladle?
21:32 <noob13> :P sry /me noob
21:32 <noob7> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Ladle
21:33 <Monkey_arma> its an 8v8 fort tourney
21:33 <noob13> ok should have known to google before asking dumb questions
21:33 <noob13> are you playing monk?
21:34 <Monkey_arma> no im an hour late
21:34 <Monkey_arma> i just got in
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21:36 <epsy> Monkey_arma, we're saturday
21:36 <noob7> shhh
21:36 <epsy> haha
21:37 <epsy> #time
21:37 <armabot> epsy: 09:43 PM, April 12, 2008
21:37  * epsy slaps armabot
21:37 <epsy> real	0m0.000s
21:37 <epsy> user	0m0.000s
21:37 <epsy> sys	0m0.000s
21:37 <epsy> sam avr 12 21:42:55 CEST 2008
21:37  * epsy slaps armabot again for confusing me
21:38 <Monkey_arma> ah lol!
21:38  * Monkey_arma cant tell the time!
21:38 <epsy> pff monk LOL
21:38 <Monkey_arma> oh  well i will play in it then
21:39 <Monkey_arma> if team has a space
21:39 <noob13> speaking of fortress...
21:39 <noob13> #tea
21:39 <armabot> noob13: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “cafe” at the moment, sorry.
21:39 <noob13> hmm...
21:40 <epsy> #tea
21:40 <armabot> epsy: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “cafe” at the moment, sorry.
21:40 <epsy> #sd fortress
21:40 <armabot> epsy: Wild West  =Fortress Shootout=: Players (10/12): ananas, Apclypse Strykr, bobor, Gaara, ONYx, QuantumSquirrel, Robber987, Sopyka, sqwerly, |SK| Azure Kite, ~SK~_~<Ossy>
21:40 <epsy> ...
21:43 <wrtlprnft> z-man: Error: Error in static void nMessage::SendCollected(int) in network/nNetwork.cpp:2026 : Invalid peer!
21:43 <wrtlprnft> z-man: café just crashed with that, but i don't have a recording
21:44 <z-man> eek. Callstack?
21:45 <wrtlprnft> nope, sorry
21:45 <wrtlprnft> i think it happened while connecting to a master server
21:46 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.pastebin.ca/982676
21:46 <wrtlprnft> this is all i have really
21:47 <wrtlprnft> i don't even know where exactly the error was because i forgot to add 2>&1 to the command line, so the error just hung around in my screen session
21:48 <wrtlprnft> oh, by the way, it might be a good idea to have the server check whether to quit due to DEDICATED_IDLE on becoming empty before contacting all master servers
21:50 <wrtlprnft> oh, and this was the initial contact to the masters after a restart
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23:08 <Monkey_arma> cafe time
23:09 <StickyNoob> #tea
23:09 <armabot> StickyNoob: Fortress Café: Players (8/32): -S-p-E-e-D, cos, CT_emmy, Kamakazi, Monkey (Monkey@x), ~|DS-T|~GG, ~|DS|~G5, ~|DS|~NotDs
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23:33 <Flex> monkey £>
23:33 <Flex> #tea
23:33 <armabot> Flex: Fortress Café: Players (9/32): <T¬$afari$Kater, cos, CT_emmy, Kamakazi, Monkey (Monkey@x), noob13 (noob13@forums), pavelo (pavelo@forums), ~|DS-T|~GG, ~|DS|~G5
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Log from 2008-04-13:
--- Day changed Sun Apr 13 2008
00:00 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8406 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/ePlayer.cpp): epsy: Anti-escaladation check is now done inside se_ChangeAcess, fixing a security flaw.
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00:02 <Durka> #m Manta Umm...my account isn't working on your forums...I did the "forgot password" and it said that it worked, but when I tried to login again with the new password, epic fail
00:03 <armabot> Durka: The operation succeeded.
00:03 <epsy> ct|kyle, actually, there was no security flaw
00:05 <Durka> #slap epsy epsy epsy epsy
00:05 <armabot> Durka slaps epsy epsy epsy epsy for being a raving moron.
00:05 <Durka> :P
00:06 <epsy> but well...like this it's still better
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00:45 <madmax> #sd nexus
00:45 <armabot> madmax: Nexus9 (NO RUBBER!): Players (11/16): /T&T/ LORD, Blu ~$teel~, C$ $oup, I'm -steel- pie, Milo ~Steel~, Mr Evil Guy, Mr. Oxx Guy, sweets~steel~, Zombo~steel~, ~$teel~Mnemonic, ~STEE
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01:53 <luke-jr> civ
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02:08 <ct|kyle> civ is stupid
02:18 <madmax> #seen kiwi
02:18 <armabot> madmax: I have not seen kiwi.
02:18 <madmax> #seen n9_kiwi
02:18 <armabot> madmax: n9_kiwi was last seen in #armagetron 10 weeks, 3 days, 2 hours, 42 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <N9_kiwi> ok
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02:57 <Durka_> wtf is with this _ shit
02:57 <baddog> LOL
03:01 <madmax> someone else already using Durka
03:01 <madmax> /msg nickserv ghost Durka <pass>
03:02 <Flex> you need to be using the nick to auth
03:02 <Flex> so first you would want /msg NickServ ghost durka <pass>
03:03 <madmax> o_O
03:03 <hoax> <madmax> /msg nickserv ghost Durka <pass>
03:03 <Flex> oh right
03:04 <Flex> wasn't reading :p
03:04 <hoax> ;)
03:04 <hoax> #night !
03:04 <madmax> lol
03:04 <armabot> Good night hoax!
03:04 <madmax> gnight
03:04 <Flex> gn
03:06 <Monkey_arma> durka on irc oO
03:06 <Monkey_arma> not usually for more than about 20 seconds
03:07 <Monkey_arma> right i go to bed..i need my beauty sleep..more than most....
03:07 <Flex> oh yeah
03:07  * Monkey_arma is uuuuugly
03:07 <Flex> liar
03:07 <Monkey_arma> damn you got me im damn fine
03:08 <Flex> knew it
03:08 <Monkey_arma> :)
03:08 <Flex> don't go monkey
03:08 <Monkey_arma> oO
03:08 <Flex> i will miss you :(
03:08 <Monkey_arma> :(
03:08 <Monkey_arma> but you will see me  tomorrow
03:08 <Flex> without you.. my irc life will be boring
03:08 <Monkey_arma> :((
03:08 <Flex> why have you done this to meee
03:09 <Monkey_arma> my brain is low on power..must recharge
03:09 <Flex> can't you sleep but stay here?
03:09 <Monkey_arma> hmm..its possible...i could zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....zzzzzz
03:09 <Monkey_arma> zzzzzzzzzzz
03:09 <Monkey_arma> zzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzz
03:09 <Flex> i could leave you messages till you wake up :p
03:09 <Flex> £>
03:10 <Monkey_arma> heh
03:10 <Monkey_arma> we will all be on ladle tomorrow
03:10 <Flex> oh you're playing?
03:10 <Monkey_arma> im sure some team will be short....i  thought it was today so i couldnt play today...now i know its tomorrow...
03:11 <Flex> how comes you never created a team
03:11 <Monkey_arma> i thought about random factor team..might do it...
03:11 <Flex> x signed up abit earler..
03:11 <Monkey_arma> i will wait till my brain is functioning again tomorrow
03:11 <Flex> sign ups are kinda closed now though
03:11 <Monkey_arma> oO
03:11 <Monkey_arma> dont worry i will get in to bed with epsy
03:11 <Durka_> wow no wonder why i was lagging like shite
03:11 <Durka_> i had irc and msn and aim and gtalk open :S
03:11 <Monkey_arma> ah its not epsy doing it...who is in charge
03:11 <Flex> how could you...
03:12 <Flex> after all i've done for you
03:12 <Monkey_arma> ah well you could join us
03:12 <Flex> i'm not gay thanks
03:12 <Flex> what irc client are you using monkey
03:12 <Monkey_arma> xchat
03:12 <Flex> it's rain in charge
03:12 <Monkey_arma> y?
03:13 <Flex> wondering
03:13 <Monkey_arma> rain....he dont even have internet afaik
03:13 <Flex> really
03:13 <Monkey_arma> hmmm
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03:13 <Flex> how do you know
03:13 <ct|kyle> .weather 46814
03:13 <Monkey_arma> haylin told me
03:13 <Durka> er so now how do i quit properly?
03:13 <ct|kyle> #weather 46814
03:13 <Monkey_arma> quit what?
03:13 <armabot> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Fort Wayne, Indiana is 39.0°F (9:19 PM EDT on April 12, 2008). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 32.0°F. Windchill: 39.2°F. Pressure: 28.79 in 974.8 hPa (Rising).
03:13 <Durka> quit irc
03:14 <Monkey_arma> you cant
03:14 <Monkey_arma> you must stay
03:14 <Flex> you're stuck for life
03:14 <Monkey_arma> its not allowed...its called netiquette
03:14 <Flex> how do i check the weather
03:14 <Flex> is that info GPS based?
03:14 <Monkey_arma> look on teletext
03:14 <ct|kyle> a forecast would be better Snow tomorrow :D
03:14 <Monkey_arma> #weather london
03:14 <madmax> #weather lisbon
03:14 <armabot> Monkey_arma: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
03:14 <Flex> :(
03:14 <armabot> madmax: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
03:14 <Monkey_arma> #slap armabot
03:14 <armabot> Monkey_arma slaps armabot for being a raving moron.
03:15 <Flex> knobheadzzzzz
03:15 <madmax> #weather lppt
03:15 <armabot> madmax: The current temperature in Lisbon, Portugal is 53.6°F (2:00 AM WEST on April 13, 2008). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 48.2°F. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Falling).
03:15 <Flex> #weather ldn
03:15 <armabot> Flex: The current temperature in Okhaldhunga, Nepal is 53.6°F (5:45 AM NPT on October 20, 2007). Conditions: Light Fog. Humidity: 98%. Dew Point: 53.6°F.
03:15 <Durka> #weather los
03:15 <madmax> lol
03:15 <armabot> Durka: The current temperature in Lagos / Ikeja, Nigeria is 86.0°F (4:00 PM WAT on May 02, 2006). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 78.8°F. Pressure: 29.85 in 1011 hPa.
03:15 <madmax> airport code man, airport code...
03:15 <Monkey_arma> how the f*ck you guys know the codes?
03:15 <Durka> :\
03:15 <Durka> #weather lax
03:15 <armabot> Durka: The current temperature in Los Angeles, California is 82.4°F (5:50 PM PDT on April 12, 2008). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 11%. Dew Point: 23.0°F. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
03:15 <Flex> it's probably gps
03:15 <Durka> wewt
03:15 <Durka> 82.4° !!!
03:16 <madmax> i think kyle's is a US zip code
03:16 <Flex> #weather uk
03:16 <armabot> Flex: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
03:16 <ct|kyle> yes mine is a zipcode
03:16 <madmax> #weather lhr
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03:16 <armabot> madmax: The current temperature in Iver, South Bucks, United Kingdom is 39.0°F (2:20 AM BST on April 13, 2008). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 35.6°F. Windchill: 39.2°F. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007.0 hPa (Rising).
03:17 <madmax> er
03:17 <Flex> i'm going to stalk you kyle
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03:17 <ct|kyle> heh not my zip code
03:17 <ct|kyle> :D
03:17 <ct|kyle> just one close
03:17 <madmax> is that where the heathrow airport is?
03:17 <Flex> no
03:17 <madmax> should be london right? lol
03:18 <Flex> it's near thingy
03:18 <madmax> #weather lgw
03:18 <armabot> madmax: The current temperature in London Gatwick, United Kingdom is 42.8°F (1:50 AM BST on April 13, 2008). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 41.0°F. Windchill: 41.0°F. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
03:18 <Flex> #help weather
03:18 <armabot> Flex: (weather <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city.
03:18 <madmax> wth? how many airports does london have?
03:19 <Flex> 3
03:19 <Flex> central city airport gatwich hearthrow and luton
03:19 <Flex> 4 i think
03:19 <madmax> #weather lisbon, portugal
03:19 <armabot> madmax: The current temperature in Lisbon, Portugal is 53.6°F (2:00 AM WEST on April 13, 2008). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 48.2°F. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Falling).
03:19 <Flex> #weather london, united kingdom
03:19 <madmax> hm, this thing used to work with 'lisbon' only
03:19 <armabot> Flex: The current temperature in London / Heathrow Airport, United Kingdom is 41.0°F (12:50 AM BST on April 13, 2008). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 37.4°F. Pressure: 29.76 in 1008 hPa (Rising).
03:20 <madmax> that's cold indeed
03:21 <noob13> #weather helsinki
03:21 <armabot> noob13: The current temperature in Helsinki, Finland is 37.4°F (4:20 AM EEST on April 13, 2008). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 35.6°F. Windchill: 28.4°F. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Falling).
03:22 <Flex> i bet it's far colder near me.. it feels much colder
03:22 <Durka> #madmax go_to_bed
03:24 <Flex> Monkey_arma
03:24 <Monkey_arma> yes...
03:24 <Flex> nothing :D
03:24 <Monkey_arma> #lastseen durka
03:24 <armabot> Monkey_arma: Durka seems to be on on the toilet, with his pants down, having a shit right now.
03:25 <Durka> #help lastseen
03:25 <armabot> Durka: (lastseen <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/lastseen.php?player=@1+@2+@3+@4+@5+@6+@7+@8+@9".
03:25 <Durka> er...
03:25 <Durka> #lastseen Monkey
03:25 <armabot> Durka: Monkey has last been seen on Fortress Café 1 hour 2 minutes ago.
03:25 <Durka> >.<
03:26 <noob13> .D
03:26 <Monkey_arma> oO
03:26 <noob13> #sd toilet
03:26 <armabot> noob13: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “toilet” at the moment, sorry.
03:26 <noob13> :(
03:27 <Flex> #sd zombie
03:27 <armabot> Flex: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “zombie” at the moment, sorry.
03:27 <Flex> hint hint
03:27 <Monkey_arma> #lastseen durka
03:27 <armabot> Monkey_arma: Durka has last been seen on on the toilet, with his pants down, having a shit 3 minutes ago.
03:27 <Monkey_arma> bug?
03:28 <Durka> #help lastseen
03:28 <armabot> Durka: (lastseen <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/lastseen.php?player=@1+@2+@3+@4+@5+@6+@7+@8+@9".
03:28 <Durka> #lastseen durka
03:28 <armabot> Durka: Durka has last been seen on on the toilet, with his pants down, having a shit 4 minutes ago.
03:28 <Durka> #help lastseen durka
03:28 <baddog> lol
03:28 <armabot> Durka: Error: There is no command "lastseen durka".
03:28 <Durka> :S
03:29 <baddog> #help lastseen
03:29 <armabot> baddog: (lastseen <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/lastseen.php?player=@1+@2+@3+@4+@5+@6+@7+@8+@9".
03:29 <Durka> #ddl
03:29 <armabot> Durka: - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | -: Players (3/16): <<shell>>, LgcyDst, OddDude
03:29 <Durka> :S
03:29 <baddog> #Nexus9
03:29 <baddog> aw
03:29 <baddog> #N9
03:30 <Durka> #help lastseen
03:30 <armabot> Durka: (lastseen <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/lastseen.php?player=@1+@2+@3+@4+@5+@6+@7+@8+@9".
03:31 <Durka> #lastseen durka
03:31 <armabot> Durka: Durka has last been seen on on the toilet, with his pants down, having a shit 7 minutes ago.
03:31 <Durka> #lastseen monkey
03:31 <armabot> Durka: Monkey has last been seen on Fortress Café 1 hour 8 minutes ago.
03:31 <Durka> wtf monkey >><
03:31 <Durka> ok i g2g
03:31 <noob13> haahaa
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03:31 <baddog> #lastseen =DSB= Baddog
03:31 <armabot> baddog: =DSB= Baddog has last been seen on Nexus9 (NO RUBBER!) 25 minutes ago.
03:31 <baddog> whee
03:31 <baddog> #lastseen +DSB+ Baddog
03:32 <armabot> baddog: timed out
03:37 <ct|kyle> #later tell epsy Your fix did not work, http://rafb.net/p/TKtw4I16.html , there is my reasoning why and plus it failed my test.
03:37 <armabot> ct|kyle: The operation succeeded.
03:38 <Flex> lol
03:39 <ct|kyle> #later tell epsy but you did do a nice job making /op and /deop into 1 function
03:40 <ct|kyle> armabot: ping
03:40 <armabot> pong
03:40 <ct|kyle> #later tell epsy but you did do a nice job making /op and /deop into 1 function
03:40 <ct|kyle> :(
03:40 <ct|kyle> #later tell epsy "but you did do a nice job making /op and /deop into 1 function"
03:40 <ct|kyle> oh well
03:43 <ct|kyle> anyone want to help me test what i just did?
03:44 <Flex> is there a possibility of someone hacking this and getting access without proper authority?
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03:45 <ct|kyle> what do you mean?
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03:45 <ct|kyle> a team leader can demote anotehr team leader right now
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03:46 <ct|kyle> or an admin can demote another admin
03:46 <Flex> can a remote user promote himself or someone else to admin?
03:46 <ct|kyle> no
03:46 <Flex> what are the requirements..
03:47 <Flex> if the packets are manipulated?
03:47 <ct|kyle> you can only promote to the level below you
03:47 <ct|kyle> but you can demote people at your level wich waht epsy wrote
03:47 <ct|kyle> with*
03:48 <Flex> yes but, manipualting yourself to the server as "admin" then promoting yourself to admin or someone else to admin
03:48 <Flex> not possible?
03:48 <ct|kyle> i don't know
03:49 <Monkey_arma> ok bed for me cu tomorrow
03:49 <Flex> noooooo Monkey_arma
03:50 <ct|kyle> no Monkey_arma i need you and Flex to test
03:50 <Monkey_arma> oO
03:50 <Flex> what exactly we testing
03:50 <Monkey_arma> you cant do the promoting thing..the end
03:51 <ct|kyle> just come to ct ladle for a minute
03:51 <Monkey_arma> ok for a minute
03:51 <ct|kyle> Flex: you too
04:06 <Flex> Monkey_arma
04:06 <Flex>     INSTANT_CHAT_STRING_1_12 /console player_1 blabla
04:06 <Flex> f12 key
04:13 <Monkey_arma> get to bed you will need your sleep or you will suck even more than usual tomorrow...x clan might even lose to CT who it looks like you will be playing first round
04:13 <Monkey_arma> pfft ok ive gone too far this time....
04:14 <Monkey_arma> :) cu
04:14 <ct|kyle> 2nd round we all get by's on the first
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04:24 <Flex> lol
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07:56 <Durka> o_O
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07:59 <MrBougo> o_O
07:59 <MrBougo> #tell durka o_O
07:59 <armabot> MrBougo: Error: I haven't seen durka, I'll let you do the telling.
07:59 <MrBougo> #later tell durka o_O
07:59 <armabot> MrBougo: The operation succeeded.
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08:14 <noob13> #ping
08:14 <armabot> pong
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15:44 <manuel__> Let's see how far Ranchin gets
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15:45 <z-man> If his web surfing skillz are any indication of his compilation skillz, not far.
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16:04 <noob13> i'm surprised he hasn't given up yet :p
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16:30 <z-man> I think he's hoping we give up at one point and make him a build.
16:30  * z-man advertises the TWG: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=196146#196146
16:47 <ct|kyle> z-man you spammer :D
16:47 <z-man> Well, spam works :)
16:48 <ct|kyle> z-man: how come a team leader can demote another team leader?
16:48 <z-man> bug?
16:48 <z-man> Epsy recoded that part, it would not surprise me if I had to go over it again :)
16:48 <ct|kyle> i sent him a corection
16:49 <ct|kyle> http://rafb.net/p/TKtw4I16.html
16:49 <ct|kyle> not reeally a patch just the code and an explaination
16:51 <wrtlprnft> i'd have fixed it, but i thought it might have been one of the cases where z-man did something ingenious that wasn't obvious at first
16:52 <z-man> There are such cases?
16:53 <ct|kyle> epsy chained the code all around still not fixing it
16:53 <ct|kyle> changed*
16:56 <ct|kyle> there is also a client error on the trunk, if you go to network game > Subcultures  then then you try going to Custom Connects it says browse Subculture instead of Connect
17:02 <wrtlprnft> ct|kyle: i think he fixed a different problem and wasn't aware of yours
17:02 <ct|kyle> oh
17:03 <wrtlprnft> i guess i'd better commit your sort-of patch now that z-man confirmed that it wasn't some sort of feature
17:03 <wrtlprnft> z-man: like allowing slashes in authorities
17:03 <ct|kyle> heh
17:03 <z-man> wrtlprnft: feel free to remove all of the checks.
17:04 <z-man> They're just so if an authority is technically reachable over many paths, only one will work
17:04 <z-man> but we've got the authority returning the full username now, so that's not required any more.
17:05 <wrtlprnft> no, i meant IDs like z-man@fff.armagetron.co.uk/ladle/admin
17:06 <z-man> aren't they allowed already?
17:06 <z-man> you just need to have the page fff.armagetron.co.uk/ladle/admin/armaauth/0.1 handle the armathentication requests.
17:07 <wrtlprnft> that's the point.
17:07 <wrtlprnft> i thought it might be a bug, but it actually served a purpose
17:14 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8407 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/ePlayer.cpp): wrtlprnft: fixed kyle's bug about people being able to deop players of equal access level without applying his patch verbatimly
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18:24 <StickyNoob> what time is ladel?
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18:28 <StickyNoob> flex: so who we got turning up for the ladel
18:28 <wrtlprnft> it's ladle.
18:30 <StickyNoob> you get the idea
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18:31 <wrtlprnft> well, i have no idea
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19:22 <hoax> ladle is in an hour yeah?
19:23 <Flex> it's ladel.
19:23 <noob7> Oo
19:23 <madmax> 19:30 UTC is in 2 hours
19:24 <hoax> no its the ladle you wankstain
19:24 <hoax> it SHOULD be ladel though
19:24 <Flex> orly
19:24 <hoax> thanks madmax
19:24 <hoax> well yes since the 1st was the spoon
19:25 <Flex> yeye
19:25 <madmax> but i guess it's going to be played at the semi-finals time? (only 4 teams)
19:25 <Flex> or early
19:25 <Flex> or nm
19:26 <hoax> idk...ask 2020 xD
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20:06 <K-Yo> z-man, reminder: there is a laddle match going on your server tonight
20:06 <z-man> Thanks :)
20:06 <z-man> We're starting directly at the semifinals, right?
20:06 <z-man> 20:15 GMT?
20:12 <epsy> K-Yo, je croyais qu'on commençais plus tôt sur votre serv
20:13 <K-Yo> epsy, bah on saute les quarts apparemment, mais ca nous gene aps de jouer sur ct ladle
20:13 <epsy> oui mais plus tôt
20:14 <epsy> enfin, de ce que j'ai entendu
20:14 <K-Yo> comme vous voulez, pke kyle a marqué sur nos forums qu'on commmencait en effet sur ct ladle
20:14 <K-Yo> je sais pas moi, j'ai juste lu le board
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20:15 <epsy> on m'a dit qu'on commencerait à l'heure des quarts
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20:17 <epsy> ct|kyle, ah, next time please stand what function you're talking about
20:18 <madmax> z-man: i think that's the way it's been done
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20:20 <ct|kyle> epsy: it has been fixed
20:20 <epsy> just seen that :)
20:21 <ct|kyle> i need too go look for the menu bug i found
20:21 <epsy> the menu bug?
20:21 <ct|kyle> on trunk
20:21 <epsy> [repeat]
20:21 <ct|kyle> if you go to network game > Subcultures  then then you try going to Custom Connects it says browse Subculture instead of Connect
20:22 <ct|kyle> i should get bazaar on here and make sure it is still in that
20:22 <epsy> wrtlprnft, btw, i doubt GID hiding ever worked
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20:36 <noob7> one question, when being rejected from a server why do I not get back to the Server Beowser but am instead sent back to the Network Game menu?
20:36 <noob7> wouldnt it be smarter to sent a player back to the Browser?
20:37 <noob7> *send
20:41 <epsy> noob7, the server browser takes time to load
20:42 <epsy> noob7, when you connect with a bookmark it gets back to the bookmarks menu with the last selected entry selected when you get disconnected
20:43 <wrtlprnft> epsy: it did, I tested it
20:43 <wrtlprnft> epsy: the servers don't allow it by default
20:43 <wrtlprnft> café does, but admins (and i think mods) can always see your GID
20:44 <epsy> everyone sees my GID in café
20:44 <epsy> altrough i've set hiding on
20:45  * epsy also wonders why his nick doesnt get linked on launchpad :/
20:45 <wrtlprnft> epsy: mine didn't get linked, either, for some time. no clue why
20:45 <epsy> bzr whoami?
20:45 <wrtlprnft> epsy: that's odd, it must have worked at some point in time
20:46 <wrtlprnft> wrtlprnft <wrtlprnft@users.sf.net>
20:46 <epsy> isn't that the svn one?
20:46 <wrtlprnft> well, that's my nick and mail address at SF
20:46 <wrtlprnft> s/SF/LP/
20:47 <epsy> ah, i see
20:47 <wrtlprnft> now somone tell me how to get zattoo not to crash after (!) displaying the first when trying to play something
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20:49 <wrtlprnft> s/first/& frame/
20:49 <epsy> i wonder if that's my name or my display name i should use
20:51 <wrtlprnft> it's both for me
20:51 <epsy> yeah i know :P
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20:54 <Monkey_arma> yo
20:54 <Flex> heyia monkeh
20:55 <Monkey_arma> yo Flex
21:00 <Monkey_arma> arent kod playing in the ladle?
21:01 <Monkey_arma> just the 4 then it seems
21:05 <madmax> no
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23:27 <Monkey_arma> subs on irc oO
23:27 <Monkey_arma> infa on irc oO
23:27 <Subz> 0.0 !
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23:28 <Monkey_arma> gratz x
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23:29 <epsy> flexs mum on irc oO
23:29 <FlexsMum_again> hi guys :)
23:29 <Monkey_arma> or hoax...
23:29 <FlexsMum_again> got $10 ?
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23:30 <Flex> what'sup paps
23:30 <Monkey_arma> the whole family...nice
23:30 <FlexsDad> yo
23:30 <FlexsMum_again> oi....this is where i crawl
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23:34 <luke-jr> wtf
23:34 <Monkey_arma> luke-jr, if thats genki then i am iceman
23:34 <Flex> it's hoax and sticky being idiots
23:34 <StickyNoob> hay luke-jr
23:34 <Flex> ban them for afew weeks please
23:35 <luke-jr> hey
23:35 <hoax> rofl Flex
23:35 <luke-jr> rename to luke-jr_
23:35 <luke-jr> and luke-jr__
23:35 <Monkey_arma> so who was mvp for x?
23:35 <epsy> hah
23:36 <StickyNoob> hah java keeping itself around even after you have closed the window is keeping the java irc client logged in
23:36 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: infa
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23:36 <madmax> how many players in the final?
23:36 <hoax> 7 for ds 6 for x
23:36 <epsy> thought it was 6v6
23:36 <hoax> ds had 7
23:37 <hoax> right?
23:37 <Subz> yes they did
23:38 <Monkey_arma> no they had 5
23:38 <Monkey_arma> plage counts as -2
23:38 <ct|kyle> sorry Monkey_arma but i had to kick you
23:38 <Monkey_arma> np kyle
23:38 <Monkey_arma> i was not playing anyway
23:38 <ct|kyle> i should have up to 32 clients now
23:39 <hoax> btw nice admining ct|kyle
23:39 <hoax> really ftw in ct ladle
23:39 <ct|kyle> heh
23:39 <Flex> yeah, that was amazing kyle
23:39 <Flex> very nice stuff
23:39 <Monkey_arma> what went wrong?
23:39 <hoax> 20mins to enable shuffle
23:39 <Flex> nothing, it was amazing
23:39 <hoax> nah, im being harsh tbh
23:39 <Flex> fantastic stuff, hope to experience it again
23:39 <hoax> enable shuffle is too much to expect from at least 1 admin
23:40 <epsy> ct|kyle, can you please enable all CT to _at least_ mod
23:41 <Monkey_arma> what i dont get is that mod > admin but mod cant do some admin commands....go figure
23:41 <Monkey_arma> i couldnt even do max_team_imbalance with mod powers
23:41 <ct|kyle> epsy: problem was that i did not know i had to compile special for > 16 max clients
23:41 <noob7> depends on how its set up
23:42 <epsy> ct|kyle, how come???
23:42 <epsy> Monkey_arma, the lower the number is, the most power has the admin
23:42 <ct|kyle> i did not know about CXXFLAGS=-DMAXCLIENTS=
23:42 <epsy> Monkey_arma, a bit like shuffle
23:42 <Monkey_arma> ?
23:43 <ct|kyle> ed's connection dropped out
23:43 <ct|kyle> that is why he was not back
23:43 <Monkey_arma> ok so mod is always better than admin on the same  server?
23:43 <ct|kyle> it would have went better
23:43 <epsy> Monkey_arma, 0 owner = god
23:43 <epsy> Monkey_arma, 1 admin = semigod(hi flex)
23:44 <epsy> Monkey_arma, 2 moderator = quartergod, etc etc
23:44 <Monkey_arma> er so howcome moderator can op users but admin cant?
23:44 <Monkey_arma> mod is higher than admin in the instructions
23:45 <epsy> admin can /op users lol
23:45 <epsy> (technically they can at least)
23:45 <ct|kyle> i'll give all Ct's a rank of 6
23:46 <Monkey_arma> is this right wrtlprnft ?
23:46 <epsy> what can they do with that
23:46 <ct|kyle> I'll have to set it
23:46 <ct|kyle> kick
23:46 <Monkey_arma> i'll give all CTs a cookie
23:46 <epsy> ct|kyle, and please set ACCESS_LEVEL_SHUFFLE_UP to 20 for fucks sake
23:46 <ct|kyle> epsy: it is
23:46 <epsy> i mean, in the config
23:46 <ct|kyle> i put that in config
23:46 <ct|kyle> after i set it localy
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23:47  * epsy points out that you cant do anything at 6
23:47 <Monkey_arma> #lastseen durka
23:47 <armabot> Monkey_arma: Durka has last been seen on ¦×¦.Team.Sumo.Server 4 hours 13 minutes ago.
23:48 <ct|kyle> epsy: you can set it
23:48 <epsy> #lastseen -g Durka@durkadurkaland.com
23:48 <armabot> epsy: Durka has last been seen on Fortress Café 10 hours 56 minutes ago.
23:48 <ct|kyle> epsy: ACCESS_LEVEL KICK 6
23:48 <epsy> ct|kyle, so, what can they do?
23:48 <epsy> just put them all to mod
23:48 <epsy> just, don't forget START_NEW_MATCH
23:48 <ct|kyle> i don't want them to mess with center message
23:49 <ct|kyle> and console message
23:49 <ct|kyle> so i guess to what k-yo has
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23:49 <Monkey_arma> then make them mods
23:49 <epsy> mods can't do these by default
23:49 <epsy> and well..wtf if you can't trust your clanmates
23:50 <ct|kyle> no it is not that i just don't see the point
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23:50 <ct|kyle> i do need to add in START NEW MATCH
23:51 <epsy> ct|kyle, maybe for..hmm let me think
23:51 <epsy> oh yeah
23:51 <epsy> not having such a mess as what we had today?
23:52 <ct|kyle> epsy: the mess was only because admins were kicked out and locked out since i only compiled the server for a max of 16 clients
23:52 <epsy> WD ?
23:53 <ct|kyle> i fixed that now
23:54 <ct|kyle> i never knew i had to change a setting for more
23:54 <ct|kyle> our armahacktron never had that
23:55 <ct|kyle> epsy: so what all happened i was not even there
23:55 <epsy> i wasn't there either during FFF finals
23:56 <Flex> hey baby, you got girl friend in vietnam? :D
23:59 <Monkey_arma> lastseen xs20

Log from 2008-04-14:
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00:00 <Monkey_arma> #lastseen xs20
00:00 <Monkey_arma> oO
00:00 <armabot> Monkey_arma: ¦×¦xs20 has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Ladle Fortress 28 minutes ago.
00:00 <Monkey_arma> doh
00:00 <rico> ya?
00:01 <Monkey_arma> late
00:01 <Monkey_arma> but helloo
00:04 <rico> hai
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00:13 <epsy> lol @ tables on the wiki page :(
00:13 <epsy> fixed one yesterday
00:14  * epsy isn't really up for all the other ones
00:15 <hoax> #tea
00:15 <armabot> hoax: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
00:15 <hoax> #x
00:15 <armabot> hoax: ¦×¦.Team.Sumo.Server: Players (0/16):
00:15 <hoax> #si nex
00:15 <epsy> #ddl
00:15 <armabot> hoax: Nexus9 (NO RUBBER!): Players (1/16): C$ DShals
00:15 <epsy> ^^
00:15 <armabot> epsy: - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | -: Players (13/16): .dBd|Paladin, Angel, c$ weed, Drewbert15, elNOR, Even, F! dwade, F!ThÜmþ, poncho, revenge, troggman, weedNOR, |Murk| Killer
00:16 <hoax> #cheers
00:16 <epsy> oh
00:16 <epsy> thought it wouldnt work
00:16 <armabot> hoax: [] Cheers! [] The friendly server.: Players (9/12): æSpådeæ, BmKBubb, cnian08, dbdname, KILLZONE, Naruto Uzamaki, one/arm\bandit, sick mirror, |LB| Hat
00:16 <hoax> he removed it yest ;)
00:16 <epsy> heh
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01:13 <Monkey_arma> really ffs
01:16 <madmax> o_O
01:17  * Monkey_arma smashes computer and interweb and linux
01:18 <Flex> #tea
01:18 <armabot> Flex: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
01:18 <Flex> where you at monkey
01:21 <Monkey_arma> at the oct fortress
01:21 <Monkey_arma> oct axes
01:21 <hoax> Monkey_arma, nexus 9
01:22 <Monkey_arma> oct fort!"
01:23 <hoax> wtf is that
01:25 <Monkey_arma> gues
01:25 <Monkey_arma> s
01:25 <hoax> sounds gay.
01:26 <Monkey_arma> i come nexus ..
01:29 <madmax> too much axes = too much pressing
01:30 <Monkey_arma> i like hex..its fun..oct is a little harder
01:30 <Monkey_arma> it works quite well for a bit of fun actually
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01:46 <luke-jr> uh
01:46 <luke-jr> oct is easier than hex
01:47 <Flex> professional cocksucker
01:47 <luke-jr> Flex: u
01:47 <Flex> wasn't talking to you
01:48 <Flex> #ls monkey
01:48 <armabot> Flex: timed out
01:50 <madmax> #lastseen monkey
01:50 <armabot> madmax: Monkey seems to be on  Wild West  =Capture The Flag= right now.
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01:50 <madmax> i bet he isn't anymore
01:51 <Flex> why doesn't it work for me but works for others
01:51 <Flex> is armabot piss off at me?
01:51 <madmax> #help ls
01:51 <armabot> madmax: (ls <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "lastseen @*".
01:51 <Flex> #lastseen monkey
01:51 <madmax> that's probably some kind of bad alias
01:51 <armabot> Flex: Monkey has last been seen on  Wild West  =Capture The Flag= 1 minute ago.
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01:53 <Flex> hello hello
01:53 <Monkey_arma> <======== very very angry
01:53 <Flex> whyy
01:53 <Monkey_arma> helloo
01:53 <hoax> <=== hungry
01:54 <Monkey_arma> my fucking system crashing
01:54 <Flex> because of arma?
01:54 <Monkey_arma> no
01:54 <Monkey_arma> xorg
01:54 <Flex> too hot?
01:54 <Monkey_arma> nope
01:54 <Monkey_arma> too shit
01:54 <hoax> why?
01:55  * madmax thinks Flex blames any arma problem on video cards overheating
01:55 <Monkey_arma> its a buggy xorg in my distro
01:55 <Flex> lol
01:55 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma is buggy
01:55 <Flex> it's like 70% of the time though
01:55 <Monkey_arma> thx luke-jr
01:55 <hoax> monkey what u on again?
01:55 <Monkey_arma> video cards only in certain circumstances
01:55 <Monkey_arma> not that often for most people
01:55 <Monkey_arma> im on t3h crack
01:56  * hoax backs away
01:56 <Monkey_arma> linux
01:56 <Monkey_arma> at the moment debian on this partition...note to all ...dont touch debian with a barge poll
01:56 <Monkey_arma> their xorg since etch release is fucked
01:57  * luke-jr only uses Debian on servers
01:57 <Flex> heyheyhey
01:57 <Monkey_arma> i wouldnt even use it for that
01:57 <Flex> luke-jr, how are things currently... how did it turn out.. i've been wanting to ask you..
02:30 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: i thought you loved centOS
02:30 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: you love being wrong, don't you?
02:30 <ct|kyle> well I was being sarcastic
02:31 <ct|kyle> besides your wrong on the whole idea of God
03:10 <StickyNoob> <3 ct|kyle
03:14 <Monkey_arma> heh StickyNoob
03:14 <Monkey_arma> atheissssst
03:15 <StickyNoob> atheist and agnositc
03:17 <Monkey_arma> :)
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07:33 <wrtlprnft> #later tell monkey* err, a lower access level means a higher power. It's sort of confusing because the documentation talks about higher and lower access levels, which mean the opposite
07:33 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
07:34 <wrtlprnft> #later tell epsy you can promote team leaders at access level 6.
07:34 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
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09:51 <hoax> what's up luke-jr
09:52 <luke-jr>  1-213-799-1400
09:54 <hoax> nice
09:55 <luke-jr> hurry up
09:55 <hoax> what?
09:55 <luke-jr> call in
09:55 <luke-jr> we're waiting
09:56 <hoax> shit signal in my house :(
09:56 <luke-jr> excuses
09:56 <hoax> i could go on all day :D
09:56 <luke-jr> just call
09:56 <Flex> who's waiting
09:56 <hoax> who's we ?
09:56 <luke-jr> all of us
09:56 <luke-jr> in #freeswitch
09:56 <Flex> why are they waiting
09:57 <hoax> yeah, just checked your pdf 8)
09:57 <luke-jr> ok, we're not REALLY waiting
09:57 <luke-jr> you're just missing out
09:58 <hoax> ya, its bangin' in there
09:58 <Flex> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PiUvm37o-8
09:58 <Flex> have you got it yet hoax? lol
09:59 <Flex> i'm quite positive it's not what you think it may be
09:59 <hoax> still trying to bloddy explain it to your sis
09:59 <hoax> she keeps tiuching my cock though
10:00 <hoax> whyd you leave freeswitch? :D
10:00 <Flex> because you joined
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10:00 <hoax> its all kickin off now
10:00 <Flex> what is
10:00 <luke-jr> call in
10:00 <hoax> slt voo :>
10:00 <aa_voodoo> salut hoax ;)
10:00 <Flex> call for what.. jeez
10:00 <aa_voodoo> hi all
10:00 <hoax> ;)
10:01 <hoax> luke-jr what do you do with your bot
10:03 <hoax> :|
10:06 <luke-jr>  1-213-799-1400
10:09 <Flex> #lastseen luke-jr
10:09 <hoax> Flex: timed out
10:09 <armabot> Flex: timed out
10:10 <Flex> #later tell armabot fuck you
10:10 <armabot> Flex: Error: I can't send notes to myself.
10:10 <Flex> yeah fuck you bitch!
10:11 <hoax> is Lucifer_bed dead
10:11 <Flex> #lastseen luke-jr
10:11 <luke-jr> 1-213-799-1400
10:11 <armabot> Flex: timed out
10:14 <Flex> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy00KL_4ZKk&NR=1
10:14 <Flex> OH YEAHH
10:17 <Flex> hey luke-jr do you like wonder?
10:17 <Flex> the bread
10:18 <luke-jr> 1-213-799-1400
10:19 <hoax> haha if i had free minuted id prob phone that
10:19 <hoax> youve plugged it so many times after all
10:19 <Flex> what happens when you call?
10:19 <Flex> i don't get it
10:20 <luke-jr> you talk to the rest of us
10:20 <Flex> haven't you guys heard of iptv
10:20 <luke-jr> hoax: you could use Google Talk
10:20 <Flex> i mean voip
10:20 <hoax> no mic
10:20 <hoax> so u got a conference going on huh?
10:20 <Flex> i might order some wonder bread to see how it tastes like :D
10:20 <luke-jr> Flex: voip works too
10:23 <luke-jr>  conf+888@conference.freeswitch.org via GTalk
10:23 <Flex> what's happening
10:23 <Flex> subject?
10:23 <luke-jr> not sure
10:23 <luke-jr> food?
10:23 <luke-jr> maybe
10:23 <Flex> you're not listening?
10:23 <luke-jr> topic changes too frequently
10:23 <luke-jr> lol
10:24 <Flex> it's 9:30 am here.. i don't think i'm up for listening to a bunch of americans talking garbage
10:24 <luke-jr> pfft
10:24 <hoax> fuck it im that bored
10:25 <Flex> you that lonely or bored you join random public voip channels to hear people socialize?
10:25 <hoax> just this once for luke-jr
10:26 <hoax> nah, i just gave up lol
10:26 <hoax> gtalk is long
10:27 <luke-jr> pfft
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18:09 <madmax> yay, my ISP doesn't seem to "reboot" my connection every 18 hours anymore
18:10  * madmax kills the join/part frenzy
18:17 <epsy> K-Yo, faudrait tester si le prob se produit sur une connection de france à france
18:39 <K-Yo> tu veux tester?
18:39 <K-Yo> vasy lance un serveur et apl moi
18:40 <K-Yo> #armaservers
18:40 <K-Yo> :/
18:40 <armabot> K-Yo: This data is 51 seconds old; Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), |FA| BLACK ICE (9/16), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (9/12), Wild West  =Wild Fortress= (8/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (7/14), Wild West  =AFL Fortress= (6/16), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (6/12), Norm's Place (5/12), The Tavern (5/16), >>> FAST TRACK RELOADED (VERY HIGH SPEED) <<< (5/8), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (1 more message)
18:43 <madmax> #sd afl fort
18:43 <armabot> madmax: Wild West  =AFL Fortress=: Players (5/16): -=circa||, -=}ID< ßastet, .dBd|Pathetique, Beni, CtxWoned
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19:10 <epsy> K-Yo, jpeux pas la, trop occupé, ça te dérange pas de jouer contre les bots? :)
19:11 <K-Yo> ><
19:12 <epsy> sa m'énerve de pas pouvoir avoir internet sur mon port :p
19:14 <epsy> #ping
19:14 <armabot> pong
19:14 <K-Yo> t'a pas internet sur ton port? at all?
19:14 <epsy> j'ai le WAP
19:14 <epsy> mais bon tt le monde sait ke sa sert à rien
19:15 <epsy> jusqu'à mi-mars j'arrivait à me connecter sur internet en passant par orange lol
19:15 <K-Yo> ah le telephone
19:15 <K-Yo> bah un telephone qui fait internet ca sert a rien
19:15 <epsy> tu px voir tes mail, et tt un tas de trucs tu sait :p
19:17 <K-Yo> j'ai pareil sur mon ordi
19:17 <epsy> t'as déjà essayé opera mini?
19:17 <epsy> ha oui mais ton ordi il tient pas ds ta poche
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19:17 <K-Yo> qu'est-ce que t'en sait?
19:17 <K-Yo> et de ttes facons, j'ai opéra sur le mp3, ca suffit ;)
19:17 <epsy> à moins que tu n'aies un N800 ou un truc du genre :)
19:18 <Bougo> #ping
19:18 <epsy> haha
19:18 <armabot> pong
19:18 <epsy> K-Yo, SERVER_NAME ? :)
19:19 <K-Yo> "0x000000epsy is a noob lalwz"
19:19 <epsy> SERVER_NAME god doesnt exist lulz
19:19 <epsy> (and fuck off with dark colors)
19:19 <K-Yo> :D
19:20 <epsy> started
19:20 <K-Yo> #sd -v exist
19:20 <armabot> K-Yo: GOD DOES NOT EXISTS - Thank you - (high rubber and high speed) ( running 0.2.8_alpha20080122 unix dedicated, url: http://lightfoot.dashjr.org, Description: “Hosted on Luke-Jr's Armagetron Servers -- http://lightfoot.dashjr.org“, Players (0/8):
19:20 <K-Yo> #sd -v lulz
19:20 <armabot> K-Yo: god doesnt exist lulz ( running 0.2.8_alpha20080408 unix dedicated, url: http://www.armagetronad.net, Description: “All settings at default values.“, Players (0/16):
19:21 <epsy> c koi ton GID?
19:21 <K-Yo> k-yo@ct
19:21 <K-Yo> t'a mis talk_to_master 0?
19:21 <epsy> nn
19:21 <epsy> 1
19:21 <epsy> [0] Access level of user k-yo@ct changed to "Owner".
19:22 <K-Yo> non
19:22 <epsy> ?
19:22 <K-Yo> c'est @crazy-tronners.com
19:22 <K-Yo> T.T
19:22 <K-Yo> j'y suis
19:22 <epsy> pf
19:23 <epsy> ha merde
19:23 <K-Yo> t'a vu l'erreur?
19:23 <epsy> oui
19:23 <K-Yo> je px essayer avec K-Yo@forums
19:23 <epsy> bon sa sert à rien de réessayer, je redémarre le serv
19:24 <K-Yo> ok
19:24 <epsy> [0] Access level of user k-yo@crazy-tronners.com changed to "Owner".
19:25 <epsy> K-Yo, fais gaffe des fois les robots passent outre la physique
19:25 <K-Yo> ok
19:25 <K-Yo> le login deconne tjs
19:25 <epsy> g vu
19:33 <epsy> .
19:33 <epsy> 001
19:33 <epsy> whoops
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19:34 <K-Yo> epsy, je me met en spec, hl moi des que c'est ok
19:34 <epsy> je sais meme pas cmt sa se produit
19:34 <K-Yo> :/
19:34 <K-Yo> demande?
19:36 <epsy> personne sait cmt sa se produit
19:36 <epsy> jfais un rec
19:36 <epsy> tu px débarquer à nouveau? :D
19:37 <K-Yo> ok
19:37 <epsy> ok merci
19:38  * epsy goes post recording
19:38 <K-Yo> ca marche pas
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19:38 <noob13> damn french :P
19:39 <noob13> hi zmanuel
19:39 <epsy> [1] Login failed, reason: Server adress mismatch, (sent by client) != (our address). Pharming suspected. If  you are connecting from the LAN and get this error, either set "TRUST_LAN" on the server (only if your LAN can be fully trusted, of course) or use "SERVER_IP" to make the local IP known to the server.
19:39 <epsy> wtf..this time they are same even on the message
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20:32 <armabot> lpbugs: [217363] Random server address mismatches while authing
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20:37 <K-Yo> epsy, u let safa mod
20:47 <epsy> mod4*
20:48 <epsy> what can he do anyway
20:48 <epsy> promote someone to mod-5 ?
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21:05 <K-Yo> .D
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21:31 <madmax> johnny depp --> .D ?
21:31 <madmax> oh wait, he *doesn't* use an eye patch in the movie :(
21:33 <noob13> #news
21:33 <armabot> noob13: News for #armagetron: (#4) Armabot now has a message command; (#9) testbug; (#10)
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21:50 <epsy> #lastseen izual
21:50 <armabot> epsy: Izual has last been seen on -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < 13 minutes ago.
21:50 <epsy> #lastseen plastik
21:50 <armabot> epsy: Plastik has last been seen on SPACEZONE I [HIGH SPEED!!] 1 hour 16 minutes ago.
21:51 <epsy> #news
21:51 <armabot> epsy: News for #armagetron: (#4) Armabot now has a message command; (#9) testbug; (#10)
21:51 <epsy> #help news
21:51 <armabot> epsy: (news [<channel>] [<id>]) -- Display the news items for <channel> in the format of '(#id) subject'. If <id> is given, retrieve only that news item; otherwise retrieve all news items. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
21:52 <epsy> #news 1
21:52 <armabot> epsy: Error: <supybot.dbi.NoRecordError instance at 0xb4a93ac> is not a valid news item id.
21:52 <epsy> #news 2
21:52 <armabot> epsy: Error: <supybot.dbi.NoRecordError instance at 0xb4a9f8c> is not a valid news item id.
21:52 <epsy> #news 4
21:52 <armabot> epsy: You can now use the message command in place of 'later tell'. (Subject: "Armabot now has a message command", added by 1 on 10:52 AM, March 25, 2006)
21:52 <epsy> #news 9
21:52 <armabot> epsy: bug (Subject: "testbug", added by 3 on 11:14 PM, June 23, 2006)
21:52 <epsy> #news 10
21:52 <armabot> epsy: bug (Subject: "", added by 9 on 08:57 PM, March 21, 2007)
21:52 <epsy> heh
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22:09 <K-Yo> lol epsy j'ai des lags trop bizar mnt, genre 100ms de latence toutes les secondes :/
22:10 <epsy> :/
22:16 <Monkey_arma> i have had mice in the house. i put some traps down a few days ago and finally caught one of the little feckers today
22:16 <K-Yo> u sure it's n,ot your hand u caught?
22:18 <Monkey_arma> no, its a little mouse...
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22:25 <epsy> heh
22:25 <K-Yo> will you eat it tonight?
22:27 <epsy> give it to rico, his cat will know hwta to do with it
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22:36  * guru3 signs
22:36 <guru3> *sighs even
22:36  * guru3 mutters about the wiki
22:36 <noob7> spammers again?
22:36 <guru3> yeah
22:36 <Flex> link
22:36 <noob7> I removed some of their stuff a few weeks ago, was waiting on them to try again :)
22:36 <Flex> link
22:36 <guru3> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=196185#196185
22:43 <Monkey_arma> to be fair the mess the wiki is in, i cant tell spam from actual content
22:43 <Monkey_arma> oO
22:43 <noob7> hahaha xD
22:43 <Monkey_arma> havent seen guru for a while here
22:43 <noob7> #quote add <Monkey_arma> to be fair the mess the wiki is in, i cant tell spam from actual content
22:43 <armabot> noob7: The operation succeeded.  Quote #71 added.
22:46 <guru3> i float...
22:46 <Flex> using mustard?
22:51 <guru3> ...
22:51 <guru3> no
22:54 <guru3> ok we have a new captcha as suggested by wrtlpwne
22:54 <guru3> d
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22:57 <epsy> i hopefully registered BEFORE we blocked humans out the wiki
22:57 <epsy> now please be nice and don't impose one on logins :«
22:59 <deja_vu> xD
23:00 <epsy> by the way, i was thinking about web authing
23:00 <epsy> there are two major ways of doing it:
23:01 <epsy> 1/ respecting the auth shema, and using client-side javascript and so forth, with a great fishing potential
23:01 <guru3> if we need some javascript
23:01 <guru3> i'd ask that jangaroo guy to do it
23:02 <epsy> 2/ going in the opposite way and having authorities that want to support that to propose a web form on their own site and communicate info about the user directly to the site requesting authentication
23:02 <epsy> (with still a fishing potential)
23:03 <epsy> (but least huge :)
23:05 <epsy> any opinion ?
23:06 <Monkey_arma> you mean "phishing"? or "fishing"?
23:07 <epsy> fishing an user's account name and password
23:07 <epsy> :)
23:07 <Monkey_arma> that is called "phishing" is it not?
23:09 <epsy> it's just all the same lol
23:11 <epsy> brb, reboot
23:11 <StickyNoob> where is the wiki being spamed?
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23:11 <Monkey_arma> i think they have removed the spam
23:11 <StickyNoob> ahh
23:11 <Monkey_arma> :)
23:11 <Monkey_arma> it took me a while to work that out too
23:12 <StickyNoob> i remember when we got a call from the guys who run our society server at uni wondering why we were using about 99% of the bandwidth, and also why we were hosting half the internets porn on our wiki
23:13 <StickyNoob> what realy pissed me of was they deleted it all without taking a backup, ffs
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23:13 <Monkey_arma> wb
23:14 <epsy> thanks
23:14 <epsy> did i miss anything <, :)
23:14 <epsy> ?*
23:14 <StickyNoob> not realy
23:15 <Monkey_arma> just talking about pron
23:15 <epsy> right, still no sound
23:16 <epsy> that film is gonna wait
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23:17 <epsy> StickyNoob, http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Special:Random
23:17 <epsy> er
23:17 <epsy> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Special:Recentchanges
23:19 <StickyNoob> clearly mathematical problems are needed for captas
23:19 <epsy> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Talk:C_plus_plus lol
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23:19 <epsy> No offense, but this is like the most worthless article on the whole wiki. Heh. --Lucifer
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23:20 <epsy> heh *cough* what a shit bnc *cough*
23:20 <epsy> :D
23:20 <StickyNoob> bnc?
23:20 <epsy> bouncer
23:21 <StickyNoob> huh
23:21 <epsy> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Housing_a_million_spectators
23:22  * epsy got freak of that random page button in minutes
23:22 <madmax> that looks pre-Spoon
23:22 <StickyNoob> was that 2020
23:22 <epsy> who the fuck else?
23:22 <StickyNoob> what ever happend to him
23:22 <StickyNoob> i miss that guy
23:23  * StickyNoob checks out a 2020 youtube vid for that great Scot accent
23:23 <epsy> lol
23:25 <noob7> why what did my bnc do to you? }:|
23:26 <epsy> right, none answers my question, gonna post a blueprint+a forum post+a wiki article, only...when i get time
23:26 <noob7> and sticky: #google psybnc
23:26 <epsy> noob7, 13, P4 and you all disconnected at the same time :o)
23:26 <noob7> no really?
23:26 <noob7> rebooted MCP :P
23:26 <noob7> sbnc had to be restarted, I dont have a cronjob running for it
23:27 <noob7> its just irc :)
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23:27 <noob7> *psybnc even
23:30 <wrtlprnft> guru3: looks nice. I just hope the spammers haven't created accounts in advance to use later
23:30 <guru3> errr
23:30 <guru3> well
23:30 <guru3> i didn't think of that
23:31 <wrtlprnft> let's just see if they did
23:31 <StickyNoob> wont take long to weed them out i presume
23:31 <wrtlprnft> there is a way to check when a user registered, right?
23:31 <wrtlprnft> StickyNoob: i wouldn't count on that. might be quite a few
23:31 <guru3> i really know about norhing about wikimedia admin
23:32 <guru3> and hence why spam has got to be such a problem in the first place
23:34 <StickyNoob> surely the best captua is just show an image and ask what it is (ie cat, dog, house, car etc) image classification still sucks
23:35 <Monkey_arma> #lastseen 2020
23:35 <armabot> Monkey_arma: 2020 has last been seen on a rehabilitation program for smokin too much of teh crack. He was seen smacking his bitch up, 3 minutes ago.
23:35 <Flex> or asking a simple math question
23:35 <Flex> what is 3+2=[   ]
23:35 <Monkey_arma> oh man he's really gone down hill
23:35 <epsy> wtf LOL
23:35 <StickyNoob> problem is if they can ocr then can answer maths probs
23:36 <Flex> ocr?
23:36 <epsy> #ls 2020
23:36 <StickyNoob> optical character recognition
23:36 <armabot> epsy: timed out
23:36 <epsy> Monkey_arma, myeah...cheater
23:36 <Monkey_arma> ? hey epsy i cant help it if armabot knows the truth
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23:38 <StickyNoob> hes not been around for atleast a year
23:39 <StickyNoob> pitty i forgot the name of the coding project he was working on too
23:39 <Monkey_arma> he has been on forums this year
23:39 <Monkey_arma> he just dont play
23:39 <Monkey_arma> post a reply to his latest post if u want
23:40 <Monkey_arma> you could do it
23:40 <Monkey_arma> in the
23:40 <Monkey_arma> style
23:40 <Monkey_arma> of
23:40 <Monkey_arma> 2020
23:40 <Monkey_arma> himself
23:40 <Monkey_arma> ------------------------------------------------
23:40 <Monkey_arma> hold the line
23:40 <Flex> has he explained why he talks like that? :D
23:40 <Monkey_arma> there is a cool thread about it
23:40 <Monkey_arma> and one for concord too
23:40 <Flex> link link
23:40 <Monkey_arma> ok ok
23:40 <Flex> thank
23:40 <Flex> you
23:41 <Monkey_arma> he gets some harsh treatment but hoax sticks up for him
23:41 <Monkey_arma> :)
23:41 <Flex> lol
23:41 <Flex> harsh treatment for the way someone talks over the internet :p
23:42 <StickyNoob> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=9751&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
23:42 <Flex> i used to know a guy who used to speak in capitial constantly..
23:44 <epsy> 2020's line breaks have sense, not like concords
23:47 <madmax> adding lastseen alias seems like the new (sucky) trend
23:50 <Monkey_arma> alias?
23:50 <Monkey_arma> no alias
23:50 <noob13> #13
23:50 <armabot> noob13: noob13 has last been seen on Fortress Café 1 hour 40 minutes ago.
23:50 <noob13> :P
23:50 <epsy> okjeez
23:50 <Monkey_arma> #lastseen madmax
23:50 <epsy> *jeez
23:50 <armabot> Monkey_arma: timed out
23:51 <madmax> #lastseen 2020
23:51 <armabot> madmax: 2020 has last been seen on a rehabilitation program for smokin too much of teh crack. He was seen smacking his bitch up, 19 minutes ago.
23:51 <StickyNoob> #lastseen Sticky
23:51 <armabot> StickyNoob: |x| Sticky has last been seen on ¦×¦.Team.Sumo.Server 50 minutes ago.
23:51 <madmax> #help lastseen 2020
23:51 <armabot> madmax: Error: There is no command "lastseen 2020".
23:52 <Flex> #flex
23:54  * Flex is still waiting
23:54 <epsy> #lastseen flexsMum
23:54 <armabot> epsy: timed out
23:55 <Flex> epsy, it's clear your mums a milf so :p
23:55 <Flex> g0t pix?
23:55 <epsy> no
23:56 <StickyNoob> #lastseen FlexsDad
23:56 <epsy> #lastseen flexsMum
23:56 <armabot> StickyNoob: |x| FlexsDad seems to be on Fortress Café right now.
23:56 <armabot> epsy: She has been last seen in rica's bed, poor lesbians..

Log from 2008-04-15:
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00:11 <madmax> ...
00:16 <epsy> good night
00:16 <epsy> #night
00:16 <armabot> Good night epsy!
00:17 <Monkey_arma> cu
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00:23 <Monkey_arma> #lastseen flexsMum
00:23 <armabot> Monkey_arma: timed out
00:23  * Monkey_arma shakes head
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00:25 <Flex> lol
00:25 <Flex> Monkey_arma, you think Sonique - It Feels So Good is gay?
00:26 <Monkey_arma> i dont like sonique
00:26 <Monkey_arma> if you mean DJ sonique
00:26 <Flex> no specifically the track
00:26 <noob7> link to an mp3 or get out
00:26 <Monkey_arma> havent heard it but i dont like it already
00:26 <noob7> ogg flac whatever
00:26 <noob7> gimme
00:26 <Flex> jeez
00:26 <Monkey_arma> link link
00:27 <Monkey_arma> :)
00:27 <Flex> ok 1sec
00:27 <noob7> :D
00:30 <Flex> flacs are like 30mb.. it might take a while :p
00:30 <noob7> \o/
00:31 <Flex> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET8lJbenUlE
00:32 <Monkey_arma> if it needs flash i aint got flash ....
00:32 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: get a distro that allows you to install these things(without compiling a billion dependancies)
00:33 <Monkey_arma> i have..im on debian...even tho it sucks ass
00:33  * Monkey_arma looks for flash plugin
00:33 <StickyNoob> sweet, installing flash should be no prob then
00:33 <Flex> n00b
00:33 <StickyNoob> may need the non free repos added
00:33 <Flex> StickyNoob, you think http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET8lJbenUlE is gay?
00:34 <Flex> not her, the track
00:34 <StickyNoob> soniq was quite good for cheese house
00:36 <noob7> how old is this thing?
00:36 <StickyNoob> late 90's
00:36 <Flex> does it feel old?
00:36 <Monkey_arma> ok sticky you find me a plugin for this load of shite
00:36 <noob7> to mee it feels like maybe 7th grade or so
00:37 <noob7> :D
00:37 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: ok
00:37 <Flex> 7th grade? urm is that a year in germany?
00:37 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: etch, lenny... whatever?
00:37 <noob7> like your 7th school year? ~13 at that time?
00:38 <noob7> but she is most definitely gay
00:38 <noob7> the song not so much, but rather meh
00:38 <Monkey_arma> etch
00:39 <Monkey_arma> flex in uk now they call it 7th grade i think
00:39 <Monkey_arma> i may be wrong
00:39 <Monkey_arma> :|
00:39 <Flex> no way..
00:39 <Flex> it's like year 7
00:39 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: http://packages.debian.org/etch-backports/flashplugin-nonfree ??
00:39 <Monkey_arma> ok ye same thing
00:39 <Flex> noob7, how old are you now.. that doesn't tell me what year it was when you were 13
00:39 <Monkey_arma> non-free omg the debianites would cut my neck with a hacksaw
00:39 <noob7> late 90s = 97/98/99 ?
00:39 <noob7> do the math
00:40 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: ffs strap on a pair and sell your sole for mediocre software
00:40 <Flex> oh ok that wasn't a guess then
00:41 <noob7> :)
00:41 <Flex> was released in 98, but i don't think she's gay
00:41 <StickyNoob> i think she is
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00:42 <StickyNoob> i seem to remember her on the bill for some gay marches/events
00:42 <Monkey_arma> sticky i actually dont have a problem with nonfree
00:42 <Monkey_arma> i hate debian
00:42 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: there is http://packages.debian.org/etch/hppa/libflash-mozplugin for free, but i wouldnt garentee it working
00:42 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: you on 64bit debian?
00:43 <Monkey_arma> 64 bit lmfao
00:43 <Monkey_arma> ive got a 900mhz with 128 ram ffs
00:43 <Flex> hahah
00:43 <Flex> he's on the big guns
00:43 <StickyNoob> so? take 2 of those suckers but them side by side, 64bin no probs
00:43 <StickyNoob> *bit
00:44 <Flex> not quite..
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00:45 <Monkey_arma> hoaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaax
00:45 <hoax> yo yo yo
00:45 <Monkey_arma> good news tho..i should be getting my upgrade in next 2 weeks...might need some alteratiions tho
00:45 <StickyNoob> tm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  TM!!!!
00:45 <Monkey_arma> tronic monkeys?
00:45 <StickyNoob> what you upgrading to?
00:46 <Monkey_arma> 999mhz 132 ram
00:46 <StickyNoob> heheh
00:46 <noob7> ahahaha
00:46 <Monkey_arma> or......
00:46 <StickyNoob> thats an overclock ont an upgrade
00:46 <StickyNoob> how the fuck did you make 132 mb of ram?
00:47 <Monkey_arma> with a 4meg card of course
00:47 <noob7> hot glue gun
00:47 <StickyNoob> I had 4 mb back in 95 i think
00:47 <Monkey_arma> i soldered the transistors on myself
00:47 <StickyNoob> or was it earlier
00:47 <Monkey_arma> i am jk sticky
00:47 <Flex> l0l
00:47 <StickyNoob> actualy iam going to get soldering some ram chips soon
00:48 <Monkey_arma> p4-2gig or p4-1.8 worst case, 512 ram, agp slot and good agp gfx card
00:48 <StickyNoob> gonna upgrade my slug to and obese slug
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00:48 <Monkey_arma> what u got now?
00:48 <StickyNoob> why p4? seems like a waste of money?
00:49 <Monkey_arma> wrong
00:49 <StickyNoob> the slug by default is 32mb of ram
00:49 <Monkey_arma> 32 oO
00:49 <StickyNoob> i want to go to 256
00:49 <Monkey_arma> slug is a computer?
00:49 <StickyNoob> yeah
00:49 <Monkey_arma> you really got 32 ram or takin piss?
00:49 <StickyNoob> madmax: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSLU2
00:49 <StickyNoob> oops
00:49 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSLU2
00:50 <hoax> #tea
00:50 <armabot> hoax: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
00:51 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: i have that running debian
00:51 <Flex> as a server?
00:51 <StickyNoob> yeah
00:51 <Flex> hosting p0rn?
00:51 <Monkey_arma> er ok and why would u buy one of those?
00:51 <StickyNoob> its a fun platform to hack on
00:52 <Flex> if you use more then one desktop and need data on different hard disks?
00:52 <Monkey_arma> dont ever ever ever run debian xorg on a server..it is fucked
00:52 <Monkey_arma> btw
00:52 <StickyNoob> but mostly it sits as my media server, as well as running my persistent connections to the net like reverse poert forwarding etc
00:53 <StickyNoob> *port
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00:53 <Flex> i'd go with FreeBSD
00:53 <StickyNoob> and works well for leaving on torrenting
00:53 <Flex> never hear bad stuff about that
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00:53 <StickyNoob> well prepare to start then
00:53 <Flex> go ahead
00:54 <Monkey_arma> sticky you can make usb and flash devices available over networks without that slug thing
00:54 <StickyNoob> naa i dont have anything againd Freebsd, never tried it
00:55 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: i know
00:55 <Monkey_arma> how much did it cost u sticky...and when u get it?
00:55 <StickyNoob> £30 i think it was
00:55 <StickyNoob> actualy no £50
00:56 <Flex> http://senduit.com/5ad268
00:56 <Flex> :D
00:56 <StickyNoob> about 6 months ago
00:57 <StickyNoob> but its a whole computer not just a NAS
00:57 <Flex> hacked
00:58 <hoax> hah flex wtf am i waiting to download
00:58 <Flex> guess :D
00:58 <Monkey_arma> 50 is not too bad as its a smallish device..but you can get a computer with those specs for not much
00:58 <StickyNoob> Flex: if i was to ry unix id go with the latest solaris, ive heard very good stuff about it
00:58 <Flex> it's .flac so all that mb is basically "lossless sound" :p
00:58 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: its about size and power consumption and noise tho
00:58 <Monkey_arma> my p4-2gig mobo with fan and heatsink is only ?20
00:59 <hoax> flac <3
00:59 <Monkey_arma> StickyNoob, i understand...that was my point
00:59 <hoax> yeah i know what flac is lmao
00:59 <Monkey_arma> arm processor
00:59 <StickyNoob> arms are good
00:59 <Flex> it should say what your downloading on the title
01:00 <Monkey_arma> Flex, solaris is system V and although solaris has good reviews i would not be too happy with sysV
01:00 <StickyNoob> apparently arm looked at the next gen of embedded intel processors and just laughed
01:00 <Flex> why
01:00 <Monkey_arma> i am agreeing with you sticky..arms are good for the purpose
01:02 <hoax> haha check epsy plug his blog on the site flex lol
01:03 <Flex> lol
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01:04 <Flex> has it finished hoax?
01:04 <hoax> 23%....LOL
01:04 <StickyNoob> Flex: apparently the atom will take up to 2.5 watts where as arm are doing dual cores with 1 watt
01:04 <hoax> 25kbps ftw?
01:04 <Flex> ahh
01:04 <Flex> i'm uploading to another place
01:05 <Flex> we should install "Mini File Host v1.2.1" somewhere on the x site :p
01:05 <hoax> hah
01:05 <StickyNoob> Flex: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFAJDbV9Vfs thats you
01:06 <Flex> urm trying to call me a pc..
01:07 <hoax> hahaha
01:07 <hoax> geeks.
01:07 <Flex> that's how linux is.. with there shitty backpacks
01:07 <StickyNoob> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rjpn3L3bSJQ thats the best spoof they did
01:07 <Flex> WTF, you stupid fuck! where you planning to camp to today you motherfucker!
01:08 <StickyNoob> I AM ROOT
01:11 <StickyNoob> i forgot how good these spoofs are
01:13 <Flex> Maybe I should eat some water..
01:13 <Monkey_arma> do we have enough for a game of fort?
01:13 <Monkey_arma> 2xnoobs, me flex hoax sticky max...?no
01:13 <Monkey_arma> ?
01:13 <Flex> Monkey_arma, want a slice of water?
01:14 <Monkey_arma> is it frozen or just really muddy?
01:14  * hoax up for fort
01:14 <StickyNoob> Flex: just for you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8lW8ndh5BU&feature=related
01:15 <StickyNoob> could cut yourself a slice of smoke: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frozen_smoke
01:15 <Flex> awwwhhhh midgets..
01:15 <hoax> LOL
01:17 <hoax> mmmm
01:17 <hoax> frozen smoke
01:22  * StickyNoob -> cafe
01:23 <Flex> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4UNgdnBTUU&feature=related
01:26 <hoax> haha seen that b4
01:26 <hoax> search most farted
01:27 <hoax> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0JTLFuNFVE
01:30 <Flex> Monkey_arma,  come cafe
01:30 <Monkey_arma> yes i am
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03:24 <Flex> Monkey_arma, you think that's air you're breathing?
03:25 <Monkey_arma> ?
03:25 <Monkey_arma> er yes
03:25 <hoax> u off Monkey_arma?
03:25 <Monkey_arma> not really yet
03:25 <Monkey_arma> why?
03:25 <Monkey_arma> soon
03:25 <Monkey_arma> 30 mins or so
03:25 <hoax> #si sumo
03:25 <armabot> hoax: Wild West  =Team Sumo=: Players (4/14): bråx, TrT~Dark-69, _-'Ww_|Shock
03:25 <Monkey_arma> i cant sumo on this junk
03:25 <hoax> #ls Durka
03:26 <armabot> hoax: timed out
03:26 <Flex> why not monkey
03:26 <Flex> it can't be that bad
03:26 <Monkey_arma> fps
03:26 <Monkey_arma> 10 fps in sumo
03:26 <Monkey_arma> with only a few players
03:26 <Flex> with it empty?
03:26 <Monkey_arma> with 4 players i get about 10
03:26 <Monkey_arma> maybe 15 if lucky
03:26 <Monkey_arma> its the turns i think
03:27 <Flex> hoax, Monkey_arma wanna go nexus9 for abit then? :p
03:27 <Monkey_arma> hmm not sure
03:27 <hoax> sweet
03:27 <hoax> what else u got to do monk
03:27 <Flex> there's people there
03:27 <Monkey_arma> ok i will get a drink first
03:27 <Flex> he's got two wank sessions to complete before bed
03:27 <hoax> lol
03:28 <Monkey_arma> oh i forgot about them...cu later...
03:28 <Monkey_arma> j/k
03:28 <Monkey_arma> :)
03:28 <hoax> lol in 5 then i nned a roll & slash anyways
03:28 <Monkey_arma> roll comes first eh
03:28 <Flex> coming then?
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03:41 <Monkey_arma> ok
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06:36 <Flex> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084827/board/nest/97433054?d=97433054&p=1#97433054
06:36 <Flex> LOL
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09:47 <zmanuel> Hmm, what is it called when a virtual machine in a virtual private server environment is not currently executed?
09:48 <wrtlprnft> virtualisation madness
09:49 <wrtlprnft> what if it's executed, but the virtual machine it runs in is not?
09:49 <zmanuel> dunno. I'm just trying to construct a computer version of "night" :)
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09:53 <z-man> multiplexed. That's what I was looking for.
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10:36 <z-man> TWG officially started!
10:40 <wrtlprnft> ah, emacs deserves to be killed anyways ;-)
10:42 <z-man> Yep. /me is looking forward to posts like "X's user is constantly downloading pr0n! I bet it is infected!"
10:42 <wrtlprnft> there's just no basis for discussion in the first round :x
10:43 <z-man> That's the whole point!
10:44 <wrtlprnft> i'll probably die within the first couple of rounds, anyways
10:44 <wrtlprnft> i'm just too suspicious
10:44 <z-man> There are only going to be a couple of rounds.
10:44 <wrtlprnft> true
10:45 <wrtlprnft> still, lynching someone on the first day, without any kind of data available, will just harm the humans
10:47 <z-man> Ah, but not lynching anyone is not an option.
10:47  * z-man shall clarify that
10:47 <wrtlprnft> i know
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11:37  * z-man-work already forgot the role assignments, good thing they're written down.
12:06 <z-man-work> http://www.eblong.com/zarf/lolgrues/
13:32 <wrtlprnft> z-man-work: where can i find them? ;-)
13:33 <z-man-work> Behind the grues.
13:53  * wrtlprnft wonders what the impacts of voting for yourself are ;-)
13:54 <z-man-work> Depends :)
13:54 <wrtlprnft> if you're the firewall it might be an idea
13:54 <z-man-work> Could be "ooh, he's voting for himself, he probably does not want a special to get accidentally lynched"
13:55 <z-man-work> umm, the firewall can't protect against lynching
13:55 <wrtlprnft> oh
13:55 <z-man-work> reaction could also be "he does not want to live, let's help him"
13:55 <wrtlprnft> what happens if there's a tie?
13:55 <z-man-work> or, as for just about everything "typical wolf trick! lynch him!"
13:56 <z-man-work> ties will lead to voteoffs.
13:57  * wrtlprnft thinks the programs have no chance
13:57 <z-man-work> Quite wrong.
13:58 <wrtlprnft> the only guy who knows anything is the virus scanner
13:58 <z-man-work> You have to look at what people say and who they vote for.
13:59 <wrtlprnft> i won't be the first to vote, that's for sure
13:59 <z-man-work> Oh, and the infected also know something :)
13:59 <z-man-work> ooh, come on. someone has to start.
13:59 <z-man-work> It's easy!
13:59 <wrtlprnft> can we kill you?
13:59 <wrtlprnft> ;-)
13:59 <z-man-work> "For starters, *rolls octahedical dice*, I vote X!
14:00 <z-man-work> No, I'm an NPC :)
14:00 <z-man-work> Or "I vote Y, I've seen him active on the forums, but he hasn't posted here. Certainly he has a reason to hide!"
14:01 <wrtlprnft> #dice 1d9
14:01 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 2
14:01 <wrtlprnft> poor guru3
14:01 <wrtlprnft> (noone says i didn't manipulate armabot just for that)
14:01 <z-man-work> Typical wolf trick!
14:02 <wrtlprnft> heh, who knows, besides you?
14:03 <z-man-work> I just know typical wolf tricks. As I said, I already forgot about the assignments.
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14:04 <wrtlprnft> anyways, that dice thing is too lame
14:04 <wrtlprnft> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=196230#196230
14:04 <z-man-work> Ah, yes, another typical wolf trick :)
14:05 <wrtlprnft> I get the feeling there's nothing you can do that's not a typical wolf trick
14:05 <z-man-work> Indeed.
14:06 <wrtlprnft> what about replacing GM by MCP?
14:06 <wrtlprnft> that is BEFORE it became evil, of course
14:09 <z-man-work> Maybe next time. It would give a better explanation for what happens to the programs that get killed by voting.
14:09 <guru3> zombie processes?
14:09 <z-man-work> What are those, anyway?
14:09  * z-man-work hasn't seen one and is scared
14:09 <guru3> programs that have been killed
14:09 <guru3> but are hanging around anyway
14:10 <guru3> caught on an interrupt or something
14:10 <guru3> ish
14:10 <z-man-work> hmm
14:10 <wrtlprnft> err
14:10 <guru3> i'm not really sure
14:11 <guru3> but people back from the dead are zombies
14:11 <guru3> and if we're all programs getting killed
14:11 <guru3> we'll be zombie processes
14:11 <z-man-work> Well, no, you'll be dead.
14:11 <wrtlprnft> i think they're children from processes produced by the fork() call and who died, but whose parents didn't wait for them
14:11 <guru3> abandoned Oo
14:11 <guru3> abandoned zombies present: beware
14:13 <z-man-work> ah, guru3. Standard procedure says you should now vote for wrtl for pulling an obviously silly reason out of his hat.
14:14 <guru3> Oo
14:14 <wrtlprnft> guru3: 17183 pts/8    Z+     0:00 [a.out] <defunct>
14:14 <wrtlprnft> that's a zombie
14:14 <guru3> standard procedure
14:14 <guru3> would be me reading the forums database
14:14 <guru3> >:D
14:14 <z-man-work> grr, yes.
14:14 <guru3> i could even change people's votes :D
14:14 <guru3> (if i got in before you read them)
14:14 <z-man-work> next TWG will be on a forum I can moderate :)
14:15  * guru3 whistles
14:15 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.pastebin.ca/985921
14:15 <z-man-work> aha.
14:15 <guru3> mmmhmmm
14:15 <guru3> i think i see
14:15 <wrtlprnft> i think when the parent dies the zombie goes away, too
14:16 <guru3> but i was thinking of it along the lines that tron uses things that sound computer-eque but don't really mean anything
14:16 <z-man-work> Yeah, I'm definitely going sort of along with that :)
14:18 <wrtlprnft> hmm, do generous donations to the project give you access to information ;-)
14:18 <guru3> to what information?
14:18 <z-man-work> The forum database, I assume.
14:19 <wrtlprnft> no, the roles in the wolf game
14:19 <guru3> ah
14:19 <guru3> xD
14:19 <guru3> well
14:19 <guru3> i'd be happy for any donations at all
14:19 <guru3> we got one a little while ago
14:19 <guru3> but that was the first one in... quite a long tme
14:19 <z-man-work> You could plot to steal people's passwords via one of your hacked windows binaries :)
14:19  * guru3 could do that too
14:20 <guru3> and were there lightening bolts in tron?
14:20 <wrtlprnft> heh, that might be an idea
14:20 <z-man-work> guru3 could steal passwords by hacking the forum itself.
14:20 <wrtlprnft> people download crap that crashes on them, so why not give them a real worm or trojan? ;-)
14:20 <wrtlprnft> but i'm afraid few people in the game actually use windows
14:20 <guru3> lol
14:21 <guru3> some people su install with the .package
14:21 <z-man-work> wrtlprnft: you just need to phish the armathentication password for the forums.
14:21 <z-man-work> If all you want is TWG info, that is.
14:21 <wrtlprnft> well, but it requires them to use my code
14:21 <wrtlprnft> s/code/binaries
14:22 <guru3> z-man-work: were roles assigned randomly?
14:22 <wrtlprnft> and i can't make macos binaries, noone needs linux binaries, and there's a maximum of four people in the game who use windows binaries at all
14:22 <z-man-work> Yes.
14:22 <wrtlprnft> fonkay doesn't play anymore i think
14:22 <z-man-work> ed's standing by as a replacement.
14:22 <wrtlprnft> that leaves lacks, your_mom and mazuffer
14:22 <wrtlprnft> hmm, ed might be an option
14:22 <z-man-work> he made a bold post somewhere else on the forum.
14:23 <wrtlprnft> argh, guru3 can read PMs
14:23 <z-man-work> And Fonkay at least received the role assignment message.
14:23  * wrtlprnft deletes the p
14:23 <z-man-work> heh
14:23 <wrtlprnft> PM with his role
14:23  * guru3 whistles
14:24 <guru3> someone can just play twice
14:24 <z-man-work> No, that's a really bad idea.
14:24  * guru3 whistles
14:24 <wrtlprnft> well, if i have enough sockpuppets to make up at least half of the game…
14:25 <wrtlprnft> at least half of them will be on the winning team
14:25 <z-man-work> Really? Did you post with them?
14:25 <wrtlprnft> *if i had
14:25 <z-man-work> ah
14:25 <wrtlprnft> guru3 is really just a sockpuppet of mine
14:26 <z-man-work> clever.
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14:26 <guru3> lol
14:27 <wrtlprnft> argh. I should have voted for guru3 to shut him up
14:27 <wrtlprnft> actually i still can…
14:27 <guru3> do so
14:28 <z-man-work> I see guru3 has done some research on the topic.
14:29 <guru3> ?
14:29 <z-man-work> How to write a good accusation post.
14:29 <guru3> oh no, i just wrote it
14:29 <guru3> it's common sense
14:29 <z-man-work> Ah, then you're a natural.
14:29 <guru3> or i'm paranoid
14:31 <z-man-work> Ok, with the ball rolling, the GM/MCP retreats from pushing players to do stuff.
14:32 <guru3> does this count as rolling?
14:33 <z-man-work> Not yet, really, but it's enough for starters.
14:33 <guru3> this would be really amusing if you had enough people to have 10 minute days
14:33 <guru3> it's a bit like risk
14:34 <wrtlprnft> imagine this on teamspeak
14:34 <z-man-work> eek
14:34 <guru3> hmmmm
14:34 <guru3> we'd need like a 3 or 4 hour block to do it
14:35 <guru3> i suppose days lets the paranoia build up
14:35 <z-man-work> Oooh yes.
14:35 <guru3> but if we're not careful people are going to forget -_-
14:37  * wrtlprnft sucks at writing essays, I know
14:37 <guru3> i'm not much better at it
14:37 <guru3> i just find your random accusation suspicious
14:37 <wrtlprnft> z-man-work: do we get to know the role of the person we killed?
14:38 <guru3> and thereby that currently puts you at the head of the suspicious chart
14:38 <z-man-work> wrtlprnft: no, not at first.
14:38 <z-man-work> If things are starting to look bad for the uninfected, I may leak that information, though.
14:38 <wrtlprnft> ah
14:39 <wrtlprnft> so that's why the programs win?
14:39 <z-man-work> I din't say they win, they are just not doomed.
14:39 <wrtlprnft> because as soon as they start to lose they'll just get a list of all wolves?
14:39 <z-man-work> No, usually that's not required.
14:39 <z-man-work> Each round, the seer gets more information
14:40 <z-man-work> and the infected make strange commends and have odd voting patterns that show.
14:40 <wrtlprnft> hmm, can the seer get information on someone who's already dead?
14:40 <z-man-work> No
14:40 <wrtlprnft> aww
14:41 <wrtlprnft> can dead people still post and try to influence others in the main thread?
14:41 <z-man-work> No.
14:42 <wrtlprnft> ouch.
14:42 <guru3> should they not do it anywhere?
14:42 <z-man-work> I was going to announce that once we have dead people :)
14:42 <guru3> can we recover any information from their charred coredumps?
14:42 <z-man-work> No, dead people are dead. They are supposed to be completely inactive for the purpose of the game.
14:42 <guru3> a list of open sockets at the time of death?
14:42 <wrtlprnft> a core file?
14:42 <z-man-work> guru3: that would be the job of the special GDB :)
14:42 <guru3> is that what the seer is called?
14:43 <wrtlprnft> no, virus scanner
14:43 <z-man-work> That's the Virus Scanner.
14:43 <guru3> ah
14:43 <guru3> hmmm
14:43 <wrtlprnft> hmm, i wonder what strace would do
14:43 <guru3> ps aux would be handy
14:43 <guru3> or top
14:43 <guru3> see who's eating more cycles
14:44 <wrtlprnft> nice pun.
14:44 <z-man-work> That's no reason to suspect anyone :)
14:44 <z-man-work> Does strace work with already running programs?
14:44 <guru3> currently there is no reason to suspect anyone at all
14:44 <wrtlprnft> z-man-work: yeah
14:45 <wrtlprnft> strace can attach to programs, just like gdb
14:45 <wrtlprnft> unless they've got a SUID bit, even if they gave their special rights away already
14:45 <z-man-work> guru3: sure, there are plenty of reasons. Just not really good ones.
14:46 <z-man-work> You have to start with completely made up reasons and slowly work towards more plausible ones.
14:47 <wrtlprnft> so i did the right thing?
14:47 <z-man-work> I'd say so.
14:47 <wrtlprnft> i still feel i'm doomed
14:47 <z-man-work> Heh :) It's not a too good idea to even react to accusations of any kind.
14:48 <wrtlprnft> i can already imagine the worms partying
14:48 <wrtlprnft> well, too late.
14:48 <z-man-work> You can still edit away your post.
14:49 <wrtlprnft> “hey, just to remind everyone, i'm still voting for [b]Jonathan[/b]!”
14:49 <z-man-work> No worries, though. Most of the others are equally inexperienced.
14:49 <z-man-work> "and completely ignoring guru3!"
14:49 <guru3> :o
14:50 <wrtlprnft> well, if i die i can still grab some popcorn and watch the rest of the fight
14:50 <wrtlprnft> or stop wasting my time on crazy games
14:50 <z-man-work> Don't feel doomed yet. One vote is nothing.
14:51 <wrtlprnft> guru3 has everyone's vote if he wants to.
14:51  * guru3 whistles
14:51 <z-man-work> Did I already mention that voting for each other is a standard wolf trick?
14:51 <wrtlprnft> STFU!
14:53 <guru3> i assure i'm not a wolf
14:53 <wrtlprnft> me, too!
14:53 <guru3> i am acting for the greater good when i urge all programs to take a closer look at wrtlprnft
14:54 <wrtlprnft> this feels as hopeless as finding a better tactic for rock-paper-scissors than pure randomness
14:54 <guru3> his current actions have so far been a malicious prank at best
14:54 <guru3> on a real life side note, i have nothing against you wrtlprnft
14:55 <wrtlprnft> do you mean the real real life or the aa.net real life? ;-)
14:56 <guru3> the wrtlprnft i have known for the past whoever long it's been
14:56  * z-man-work already sees this becoming a classic, fetches popcorn
15:04  * guru3 whistles
15:05 <guru3> it's just an excercise in making stuff up that's not logical but plausible
15:05 <guru3> anyone that's had a course involving false logic can do this stuff
15:05 <z-man-work> There are courses for that?
15:05  * z-man-work went to the wrong school.
15:05 <guru3> i had a course called 'theory of knowledge'
15:06 <guru3> where as part of it we looked at various ways information can ben manipulated for certain responses while actually meaning something else etc
15:07 <z-man-work> So, politics, basically?
15:07 <guru3> no
15:07 <guru3> nothing todo with politics
15:08 <guru3> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_Knowledge_%28IB_course%29
15:08  * z-man-work predicts Lucifer is going to use the "pretend I'm a wolf" routine
15:09 <guru3> does that mean he isn't one
15:09 <z-man-work> No.
15:09 <guru3> or are you saying that to indicate that he is one
15:09 <z-man-work> No.
15:09 <guru3> exactly what you would have leanred in ToK
15:10 <z-man-work> Heh :)
15:10 <guru3> the wolf is pretending to be a wolf thinking that no one would possibly admit to being a wolf- there fore everyone would assume he isn't a wolf
15:11 <z-man-work> That, or the other way round.
15:11 <guru3> exactly
15:11 <guru3> or
15:12 <guru3> the program is pretending to be a wolf in order to confuse other programs into voting for people that don't vote for me
15:12 <guru3> not me
15:12 <guru3> *him
15:12 <z-man-work> Oh, don't confuse players.
15:12 <guru3> because if someone admits to being a wolf that isn't, only the wolves would know
15:12 <z-man-work> Confused players like to vote for the source of the confusion.
15:12  * guru3 whistles
15:13 <guru3> you started it
15:13  * wrtlprnft votes for z-man-work
15:13 <guru3> can we vote to lynch the gm?
15:13  * guru3 votes for z-man-work 
15:13 <noob7> is this about the zombie/wolf game?
15:13 <z-man-work> wrtlprnft already asked, and NO.
15:13 <z-man-work> noob7: yep.
15:13 <guru3> honestly
15:13 <guru3> the wolf
15:13 <noob7> ok :)
15:13 <guru3> is wrtlprnft
15:13 <guru3> i read his pm
15:13 <guru3> it's so him
15:13 <guru3> even though i'm making it look like he's not sort of
15:13 <guru3> he is
15:14 <wrtlprnft> i deleted that PM
15:14 <guru3> that's why he's after me
15:14  * noob7 doesnt care (not a player, not a wolf) but it sounds plausible
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15:14 <noob7> therefor I will spread my knowledge
15:14 <guru3> i'm trying to organize the programs to find the traitors in our midsts
15:14 <guru3> as much as they would like
15:14 <guru3> someone who is a wolf will give something away
15:14 <wrtlprnft> let's each get an army of NPCs to support our point of view
15:14 <guru3> when everyone else just falls in line
15:14  * z-man-work notes that on the IV boards, both of you would be lynched for looking like wolves pretending to fight
15:15 <guru3> well this isn't IV
15:15 <wrtlprnft> are we allowed to hire lawyers?
15:15 <guru3> and i wouldn't say this is a fight
15:15 <z-man-work> Your luck.
15:15 <guru3> i'm just nagging it to death
15:15 <noob7> wrtlprnft, correct, get yourself a propaganda machine
15:15 <guru3> because i'm bored
15:15 <guru3> and hungry
15:15 <guru3> and really should be going to eat
15:15 <guru3> but keep getting distracted
15:15 <guru3> by things like
15:15 <guru3> 15:14:15  * z-man-work predicts Lucifer is going to use the "pretend I'm a  wolf" routine
15:15 <z-man-work> [15:21] <guru3> and hungry
15:16 <guru3> it's 2:20 and i haven't eaten since 8:20
15:16 <z-man-work> Good thing we did no go with the classic theme :)
15:16 <guru3> also
15:16 <guru3> something in my room is beeping
15:16 <guru3> and i don't know what it is
15:16 <z-man-work> ooh, he wants it to become night, so he can eat one of us
15:16 <guru3> night isn't until tomorrow :<
15:16 <z-man-work> Yeah, ok, one point for you.
15:17 <guru3> now really, the wolf is **********
15:17 <guru3> not wrtlprnft
15:17 <z-man-work> How do you know it's just one?
15:17 <guru3> wrtlprnft; a sad case of the wrong place at the wrong time
15:17 <guru3> i don't
15:17 <guru3> in fact didn't you say there was more than one
15:17 <z-man-work> I did.
15:17 <guru3> his tragic sacrifice will live on in our memories
15:17 <wrtlprnft> one wolf is somewhat pointless
15:18 <z-man-work> Extremely pointless, even.
15:18 <guru3> i guess i'll take my laptop to the kitchen
15:18 <guru3> so i can continue to spout non-sense while i make my sandwhiches
15:18 <wrtlprnft> nerd ;-)
15:18 <z-man-work> Yuck, crumbs on keyboard.
15:18 <guru3> this is much too fun
15:19 <wrtlprnft> i think the programs who aren't talking are the ones who should be suspicious
15:19 <guru3> or i would have been going
15:19 <guru3> had i not just found out about a really good deal on ebay
15:21 <noob7> can someone link me to the wolf thread please?
15:21 <wrtlprnft> what the… I think this worm game is affecting me. Now i have cups, libpng, and xine-lib on my computer, all just published to be vulnerable today (at least on heisec)
15:21 <z-man-work> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18374&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
15:21 <wrtlprnft> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18374&highlight=
15:21 <noob7> ty :)
15:22 <z-man-work> Spectators should be about as careful as the GM when publicly discussing theories.
15:22 <noob7> so taking part is still possible? :)
15:23 <z-man-work> You can sign up as a replacement in case one of the players drops out.
15:23 <z-man-work> Thing is, were you added now, you'd be a regular program, and people would know.
15:23 <noob7> hm ok, I dont think any of the partaking players will do so, maybe durka... :D
15:23 <wrtlprnft> z-man-work: why would he be?
15:23 <guru3> to keep the balance
15:23 <z-man-work> because adding another infected program would severely tip balance.
15:24 <z-man-work> He may become a special, but no worm.
15:24 <guru3> i just purchased three thin clients
15:24 <wrtlprnft> add ed, too?
15:24 <z-man-work> So he's safe from lynching, and that's boooring.
15:24 <noob7> nah I was late this time :)
15:24 <noob7> but I'll have my laughs watching you guys tear each other apart xD
15:25 <z-man-work> wrtlprnft: one worm + one program sill shifts the balance.
15:25 <guru3> maybe we'll form a truce and tear into someone else
15:26 <z-man-work> standard wolf trick!
15:26 <z-man-work> sorry, I have to say that everytime :)
15:26 <guru3> ...
15:26 <guru3> what was that before about the gm shutting up? ;)
15:27 <z-man-work> I may as well. People around here don't know yet that everything can be a standard wolf trick.
15:27 <wrtlprnft> i figured that by now
15:27 <guru3> what about the standard GM tricks, eh?
15:28 <z-man-work> That's not telling people what specials are in the game.
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15:29 <guru3> there's a program that can kill anyother at will, randomly, with no repercussions running around loose
15:29 <guru3> and we sit and do nothing
15:29 <guru3> yet we turn on each other against some fictional worm virus
15:29 <guru3> let me ask you all
15:29 <guru3> who should we really be lyncing here?
15:30  * wrtlprnft calls for a mutiny
15:30 <guru3> programs of the system unite!
15:30 <wrtlprnft> what happened to the good old “all programs are created equal”, anyways?
15:31 <guru3> one server, indivisible, with memory and disk space for all
15:31 <guru3> damn this virtualization
15:31 <wrtlprnft> damn scheduling. what happ
15:31 <wrtlprnft> ened to the good old days where only one program could be active?
15:32 <wrtlprnft> my calculator is the better computer, definitely
15:32 <guru3> -_-
15:33 <guru3> the hardware doesn't make the computer, the computer makes the hardware
15:33 <guru3> (the actions don't make a man, a man makes the actions)
15:36 <guru3> conversation has died
15:36 <guru3> i will go back upstairs now
15:37 <noob7> no real interest in finding the wolf? xD
15:41 <wrtlprnft> in all likelyhood no real wolf has even spoken yet
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15:47 <z-man-work> Lucifer, Your_mom and DDMJ haven't read their roles yet, being Americans and all that.
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15:48 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer sleeps whenever he wants to, at least that's what i heard last
15:49 <wrtlprnft> *last heard
15:49 <z-man-work> That doesn't exclude that he sleeps at night :)
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16:26 <wrtlprnft> z-man-work: if the worms try to kill the firewalled guy, do the other people get to know who they tried to kill?
16:26 <z-man-work> I don't know yet. That's one of the things I'll decide when it happens.
16:26 <z-man-work> if they do get do know it, it's a massive advantage for the uninfected.
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16:27 <wrtlprnft> in either case the firewall itself will know who's the human :-)
16:28 <z-man-work> Yep.
16:29 <z-man-work> On average (assuming random Worm action), there's about half a Firewall save per game, so don't put your hope up too far.
16:30 <z-man-work> Or down, should you be infected.
16:30  * z-man-work hasn't got the role list here, and for the purpose of public discussion, of course everyone is uninfected :)
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17:14 -!- z-man-work is now known as z
17:15 <z> cool, that was not taken yet?
17:15 -!- z is now known as z-man-work
17:16 <wrtlprnft> did you register it?
17:17 <wrtlprnft> 17:17 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)-          Registered: 2 years 47 weeks 5 days (14h 48m 40s) ago
17:18 <z-man-work> no.
17:19 <z-man-work> Also, currently guru3 and MaZ are on their way to be swapped out.
17:20 <wrtlprnft> hmm, if it remains a tie i'll switch to maz on the last second just to avoid a tie
17:21  * wrtlprnft is talking gibberish again
17:21 <guru3> z-man-work: swapped out?
17:21 <wrtlprnft> killed
17:21 <wrtlprnft> exterminated
17:21 <z-man-work> lynched.
17:21 <guru3> really
17:21 <wrtlprnft> brutally murdered
17:21 <guru3> D:
17:21 <z-man-work> I'm yet unsure how to write a nice cruel description.
17:22 <guru3> voting still closes tomorrow right?
17:22 <z-man-work> Sure.
17:22 <z-man-work> Plenty of time to talk yourself into that hole :)
17:23 <guru3> hmmmm
17:23  * guru3 doesn't want to be swapped
17:24  * wrtlprnft would hate being put onto a rapidly spinning disk, too
17:26 <guru3> my my
17:26 <guru3> it's trickier to respond now
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17:27 <lady> yay!
17:27 <wrtlprnft> err, hi
17:27 <wrtlprnft> fonkay?
17:28 <lady> yes.
17:28 <lady> was having some trouble connecting..
17:29 <lady> the server didn't like my email adress.
17:29 -!- lady is now known as fonkay
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17:31 <fonkay> so, yea.
17:32 <wrtlprnft> i didn't know IRC cared about e-mail addresses
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17:38 <fonkay> mine does apparently.
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18:03 <wrtlprnft> now what?
18:04 <wrtlprnft> do i go with the crowd and vote for lynching maz?
18:04 <epsy> nothin.
18:05 <noob7> can you withhold your vote?
18:07 <epsy> are we voting for the next person guru3 will exterminate?
18:07 <wrtlprnft> did you already vote?
18:08 <wrtlprnft> ah, you're not even playing
18:08 <wrtlprnft> typical worm strategy.
18:08 <epsy> oh
18:08 <epsy> right
18:08  * epsy was sure it would be harsh
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18:20 <noob7> madness http://electricpotential.net/graphicblog/images/olleletter.png
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18:30 <fonkay> indeed, it is mob mentality after all.
18:32 <fonkay> really what else can you base your vote on at this point in the game? Noone's going to out themselves at this juncture.
18:33 <fonkay> and we can always decant our voting, and change it up if we suspect someone else.
18:33 <fonkay> My theory at this point is that we need to start a fuss by voting in order to obtain more data.
18:34 <guru3> zman cncurs
18:35 <wrtlprnft> fonkay: that speech sounds like a perfect wolf strategy.
18:35 <fonkay> everything does at this point.. that's my point.
18:35 <guru3> wrtlprnft...
18:36 <wrtlprnft> guru3: ?
18:36 <guru3> everything is wolf strategy it seems
18:36 <fonkay> like luci's last post sounds like he's trying to act wise and thoughtful... but is he try to sound like that, or is that his actual opinion.
18:36 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer's little speech also looks quite fishy, err, wolfy, err wormy.
18:37 <fonkay> hehe
18:37 <guru3> z-man also hypothesized that lucifer would try and act like a wolf
18:37 <fonkay> by not voting yet, he's either on the wrong track (imo) or he's being strategic.
18:39 <fonkay> we'll all in paranoid mode.
18:40 <z-man-work> guru3: I wasn't implying anything about Lucifer's role. I was more refering to his "let's eat people" statement before the game, which of course had zero influence on random.random().
18:41 <wrtlprnft> the people voting for maz right now might also have a high worm percentage if maz isn't one of them. maybe they just took the chance to vote for someone who isn't a wolf
18:42 <fonkay> well, we have until 23:00 gmt to decide that don't we?
18:42 <Lucifer> haha, my actual opinion
18:42 <fonkay> tomorrow.
18:42 <Lucifer> let's hang maz
18:42 <MaZuffeR> :(
18:42 <Lucifer> he's trying to make us think he's the firewall
18:42 <Lucifer> if he's the firewall, then we hang the wrong person, oops
18:43 <MaZuffeR> no, i'm not
18:43 <MaZuffeR> i'm not that stupid
18:43 <Lucifer> but if he is the firewall, he just told the wolves he's the firewall, and they'll eat him asap
18:43 <Lucifer> er, worms
18:43 <Lucifer> therefore, he's not afraid of the worms eating him
18:43 <Lucifer> because he's a worm!  hang him!
18:43 <MaZuffeR> and if i were the firewall i would protect myself atleast the first night
18:43 <Lucifer> deres that sneaky little fin!
18:44 <Lucifer> indeed, all we can do is hope the virus scanner meets the firewall soon ;)
18:44 <Lucifer> seems like the first day, maybe two days, is just a rollercoaster you have to ride for a bit
18:45 <Lucifer> anyway, if you were the firewall, you'd want to save your powers to use on the virus scanner, eh?  That's our only real chance of winning, after all
18:45 <Lucifer> and revealing you're the firewall early and having to protect yourself every night would pretty much prevent that
18:45 <fonkay> other than getting lucky.
18:47 <MaZuffeR> well, i doubt the wolves would try to eat the firewall every night
18:47 <MaZuffeR> by doing so they would seriously hurt themselves
18:48 <MaZuffeR> and I'm not the firewall, honestly ;)
18:48 <fonkay> I say we hang DDMJ, cause.. why not?
18:48 <Lucifer> well, if I were a worm, and I knew that mazuffer was not a worm and had just revealed he was the firewall, I'd pick someone else the first couple of nights, hoping to eat the virus scanner
18:48 <Lucifer> I guess some of it depends on how many worms there are, which we don't know
18:49 <fonkay> how do the worms decide who to eat again?
18:49 <wrtlprnft> privately
18:49 <fonkay> pm zman?
18:49 <wrtlprnft> their choice
18:49 <z-man-work> Yep.
18:49 <wrtlprnft> and then pm c-man
18:49 <wrtlprnft> s/c/z
18:49 <Lucifer> don't they send votes to zman?
18:49 <fonkay> slow mo lcui
18:49 <z-man-work> No. They decide privately, and only send one choice.
18:49 <fonkay> luci even
18:50 <Lucifer> MaZuffeR: now that I think about it, I think you're right, taretting the firewall isn't terribly useful until the worms know he/she is protecting the virus scanner
18:50 <Lucifer> the virus scanner is the seer, right?
18:50  * Lucifer checks the first post
18:50 <wrtlprnft> yeah
18:50 <fonkay> yea
18:51 <wrtlprnft> trusted computing for the win btw.
18:51 <fonkay> isn't the firewall only allowed to use thier power thing once?
18:51 <z-man-work> No, every night.
18:51 <z-man-work> But only on one program.
18:51 <fonkay> oh, i must have misread something.
18:51 <z-man-work> And if they pick a worm, the power is wasted.
18:52 <guru3> do they find out about that?
18:52 <wrtlprnft> hmm, can you still count yourself a winner if you died but your team won?
18:52 <z-man-work> guru3: No.
18:52 <guru3> and does the worm find out they were protected?
18:52 <Lucifer> wrtlprnft: I say yes :)
18:52 <z-man-work> wrtlprnft: depends.
18:52 <z-man-work> I'd strongly argue that if you're a regular program and get lynched, you have lost.
18:52 <fonkay> can you still play once you've been lynched (minus the vote)
18:53 <z-man-work> If you get terminated by the worms, things are different, there's nothing much you can do to prevent that.
18:53 <z-man-work> fonkay: No.
18:53 <wrtlprnft> hmm
18:53 <z-man-work> It depends, of course.
18:53 <fonkay> so you can't talk to other players once you're dead. (i know how obvious that sounds)
18:53 <guru3> you become a zombie process
18:53 <z-man-work> If you get yourself lynched because you protected a special, then you died for a good cause.
18:54 <Lucifer> there was something in the werewolf rules about a dead zone where you can talk to dead people
18:54 <z-man-work> fonkay: exactly.
18:54 <z-man-work> Dead people are of course free to talk to each other.
18:54 <guru3> he did it! he did it!
18:54 <wrtlprnft> ?
18:54 <guru3> a quote from something
18:54 <guru3> which i can't remember
18:54 <wrtlprnft> relating to what?
18:55 <wrtlprnft> in this case
18:55 <guru3> i can't remember :<
18:55 <fonkay> zombies?
18:55 <wrtlprnft> why did you say it?
18:55 <guru3> someone was killed
18:55 <guru3> so they point at him and shout
18:55 <Lucifer> ooo, so if I become a zombie process, can I go and try to eat someone's brain?
18:55 <wrtlprnft> ooh
18:55 <z-man-work> Monty Pyton, Life of Brian?
18:55 <z-man-work> The Stoning?
18:55 <guru3> yes
18:55 <guru3> that's it
18:55 <guru3> i think
18:55 <fonkay> i say wrtl and I form a canadian aliance, we can pretend this is survivor or ones of those things.
18:55 <Lucifer> hey, that reminds me, saw this really cool youtube video
18:56 <wrtlprnft> and get lynched instantly because everyone thinks we're worms?
18:56 <fonkay> sure, why not?
18:56 <Lucifer> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leEsz9ci5XE
18:56 <Lucifer> that only proves he's a worm, because he's not canadian
18:57 <fonkay> if I really was interested in forming a secret aliance I wouldn't mention it here.. kinda defeat the purpose wrtl.
18:58 <fonkay> bbiab gotta watch paint dry again.
19:01 <Lucifer> darth vader as the black knight is fun
19:02 <wrtlprnft> only a worm would link to that video.
19:06 <Lucifer> takes one to know one
19:07 <Lucifer> so, when we say "don't post at night", we just mean in that thread, right?  So we can post other places without raising suspicion, as long as it's not related to the game?
19:09 <fonkay> don't post at night means tomorrow night right? not tonight?
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19:13 <RayT> anyone knows really "well" the linux dedicated server thingy ?
19:13 <RayT> (and hello)
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19:15 <RayT> can't find any of the "standard" config files, and I've tried to create the maybe "missing" directories, but none of them worked
19:15 <guru3> fonkay: it means don't post any time the GM declares night
19:15 <fonkay> ko, figured as much.
19:16 <noob7> hey ray
19:16 <RayT> yes ?
19:17 <noob7> (just saying hi, as I dont understand your problem)
19:17 <fonkay> I feel alittle slow when it comes to the rules. Never played anything similar to this before. Just hoping my problem solving skills will work in my favour.
19:17 <guru3> same here fonkay
19:17 <RayT> well, I've got a debian machine, the linux dedcated is running, but i can't find any of the settings cfgs
19:17 <guru3> i feel like i'm just causing mayhem right now
19:17 -!- dsop [n=dsp@ns.km20749-03.keymachine.de] has joined #armagetron
19:18 <dsop> hi
19:18 <fonkay> but i think that's useful.
19:18 <guru3> no
19:18 <guru3> but i'm not really trying to
19:18 <fonkay> :RayT this?  http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Server_Administration_Guide#Configuration_Files
19:18 <guru3> i'm just sort of... playing and enjoying myself
19:19 <RayT> fonkay, yes, i've tried all of the dirs but none seems to work
19:19 <fonkay> like I pointed out earlier. At this point in the game, all you can do is cause a fuss and hope someone slips up and reveals themselves a bit.
19:19 <RayT> tried to put the settings_customs etc in those dirs, tried with a config sub-dir....
19:20 <noob7> how do you start the server ray?
19:20 <RayT> nothing worked.... so i'm kinda stuck with no means to even declare a admin_pass
19:20 <noob7> (still eating btw, not sure you got my PM)
19:20 <RayT> using a webmin like anyone i think
19:20 <RayT> (got it noob7)
19:20 <noob7> :)
19:21 <RayT> the server starts just fine, bots join it whenever a player kicks in, but I can't find any cfgs and anywhere i tried to put it it doesntseems to affect the game
19:22 <RayT> anyone got a "tree" picture of a directory showing how it should be set up ?
19:22 <RayT> (and the server is started by the root user as well, shouldn't have any limitations...)
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19:24 <fonkay> I'm not linux savvy, so past pointing to the wiki, I can't help you.. Sorry.
19:25 <fonkay> RayT: this maybe will help? http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Resource_System
19:26 <fonkay> really don't know.
19:26 <wrtlprnft> RayT: well, it defaults to ~/.armagetronad-dedicated/config/
19:27 <noob13> RayT: you could also start the server defining the dir u need: i.e. armagetronad-dedicated --vardir /path/to/config
19:27 <wrtlprnft> RayT: you can also use --userconfigdir to specify a custom directory
19:27 <z-man-work> Lucifer, fonkay: "don't post at night" means don't post in the TWG thread while I'm counting the votes and/or waiting for the messages from Specials/Worms.
19:27  * z-man-work was too lazy to do all the scenario replacements in the first post.
19:28 <RayT> hmmm fonkey : nope, nothing related but thx for the try
19:28 <RayT> and "~" being ?
19:29 <RayT> teh user starting the process ?
19:29 <dsop> wtf is zthread
19:29 -!- K-Yo [n=k-yo@unaffiliated/k-yo] has joined #armagetron
19:29 <noob13> "home", yes.
19:29 <noob7> dsop: An advanced object-oriented, cross-platform C++ threading and synchronization library. [GPL]
19:30 <noob7> and also: "a bitch to get running"
19:30 <noob13> :D
19:30 <noob7> ask 13 here xD
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19:30 <dsop> oh man, why not using pthread..hmm zthread is for SURE not in debian stable
19:30 <RayT> hmmmm
19:30 <dsop> well not in the version i use
19:30 <epsy> 3.0 ? :P
19:30 <dsop> 3.1 :P
19:30 <epsy> hah
19:30 <z-man-work> dsop: cause of Windows?
19:31 <z-man-work> it's optional, by the way.
19:31 <RayT> well, got root/.armagetronad-dedicated/config created, but it didn't do anything in the game...
19:31 <epsy> *insert note about the family of Z*
19:31 <dsop> ah okay, I just care, because aclocal fails
19:31 <z-man-work> Hmm, it shouldn't. Error message?
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19:32 <dsop> aclocal: configure.ac: 0: macro `AM_PATH_ZTHREAD' not found in library
19:32 <noob7> rayT, the settings have to go into a file called "autoexec.cfg", then start it using the method mentioned above
19:33 <z-man-work> dsop: which source version are you using?
19:33 <dsop> z-man-work: bzr trunk
19:33  * epsy suggests again 0.2.8 for a dedi
19:33 <epsy> trough you would be hitting the same problemù again
19:34 <dsop> epsy: did you suggested me 0.2.8? na i like to be on the bleedig edge
19:34 <z-man-work> There's no real reference ot AM_PATH_ZTHREAD, only in a comment
19:34 <z-man-work> will auomake scan comments?
19:34 <epsy> bleeding-edges in arma are quite dispersed :)
19:35 <dsop> epsy: I'm a php.nte developer, I'm used to that ;P
19:35 <dsop> z-man-work: it's in configure.ac
19:35 <K-Yo> epsy, plus de lags?
19:35 <z-man-work> moos@l06:~/Tron/bzr/trunk/armagetronad$ grep AM_PATH_ZTHREAD *
19:35 <dsop> z-man-work: line 581
19:35 <z-man-work> configure.ac:AM_PATH_ZTHREAD_AA(2.3.2)
19:35 <epsy> dsop, for client trunk is indeed the bleeding edge but most recent changes in 0.2.8 haven't been merged to trunk
19:36 <epsy> K-Yo, yen a tjrs
19:36 <fonkay> ok back to paint
19:36 <dsop> epsy: ah oky, then I'm going to use that
19:36 <RayT> lu les freu :)
19:36 <epsy> (and these changes mostly only affects dedi and auth)
19:36 <epsy> salut
19:36 <K-Yo> salut
19:37 <z-man-work> dsop: my checkout has AM_PATH_ZTHREAD_AA at that position.
19:37 <z-man-work> And it seems up to date :)
19:37 <dsop> z-man-work: mine too
19:38 <z-man-work> Hmm, I don't understand why aclocal is bitching about AM_PATH_ZTHREAD then.
19:38 <dsop> z-man-work: maybe AM_PATH_ZTHREAD_AA expands to something like AM_PATH_ZTHREAD
19:38 <z-man-work> No.
19:38 <epsy> RayT, t'as pas eu de lag désastreux ces derniers temps?
19:38 <z-man-work> Apart from the one comment.
19:38 <z-man-work> try to open acinclide.m4
19:39 <z-man-work> look for AM_PATH_ZTHREAD (in the comment)
19:39 <z-man-work> and kill it.
19:39 <z-man-work> Gotta run
19:39 <epsy> cu
19:40 <noob13> dsop's problem sounds painfully familiar...
19:41 <dsop> z-man-work: you are right, wtf is aclocal doin'
19:41 <K-Yo> epsy, il est chez wanadoo lui aussi
19:41 <z-man-work> It probably knows nuttin' about comments.
19:41 <K-Yo> (comme vood)
19:41 <epsy> K-Yo, ah, vood en a pas?
19:42 <K-Yo> pas que je sache ms il joue pas svt
19:42 <epsy> RayT, ok je vois
19:42 <dsop> z-man-work: maybe we should remove the comment, to avoid anyoing problems when people deal with the same problem?
19:42 <z-man-work> Yeah. Will do that.
19:42 <RayT> j'ai eu un peu de lag mais principalement a cause de la mule.... sinon c'est ptet du au migrations massives vers le 22Mbits de free...)
19:42 <dsop> z-man-work: okay, otherwise I would have supplied the patch (even it's too easy for a patch)
19:43 <epsy> j'espère sérieux qu'ils vont corriger ça vite fait, c'est vraiment chiant :/
19:43 <z-man-work> what you can do is bump me again when I'm z-man.
19:43 <epsy> ( vite fait = allez, 2 mois ? :P )
19:44 <epsy> because he's not (yet)
19:44 <epsy> :D
19:44 <dsop> z-man-work: I'll just send you the patch if i find your email or some other contact on launchpad
19:44 <z-man-work> #later tell z-man remember ACLOCAL
19:44 <armabot> z-man-work: The operation succeeded.
19:44 <z-man-work> dsop don't bother, it's easier to apply that change by hand :)
19:45 <epsy> z-man-work, just need to remove it?
19:45 <noob7> hey 13 vielleicht sollten wir deutsch wenn franzözisch hier zur regel wird? :P
19:45 <K-Yo> #later tell K-Yo I LOVE YOU DUDE!!!
19:45 <armabot> K-Yo: The operation succeeded.
19:45 <noob7> *reden
19:45 <K-Yo> ;)
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19:46 <epsy> noob7, es verstöre mich nicht :)
19:46 <noob7> now that he is gone... he is the worm! shhh!
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19:46 <epsy> *cough* http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armalogs/ *cough*
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19:46 <noob7> epsy I was trying to poke some fun at you, even the germans manage to speak english, just the DAMN FRENCH DONT! argh! }:D
19:47 <dsop> z-man-work: is'n there a bzr apply or something lelse like in HG or GIT?
19:47 <noob7> and I dont think he skims the logs...
19:47 <epsy> noob7, hat die alex ein besseres deutch als mir? :P
19:47 <epsy> there is..
19:47 <noob7> epsy, who is alex?
19:47 <epsy> you just need to...rtfm :/
19:47 <wrtlprnft> is alex a girl?
19:48 <K-Yo> #tea
19:48 <noob7> my first thought as well :)
19:48 <armabot> K-Yo: Fortress Café: Players (9/32): *|°Dready°|*, /dev/null/h4ck, 0o0, <T¤$afari$Kater, Alpha Dog, cT_K-Yo (K-Yo@crazy-tronners.com), Izual, SpEeD, ~|DS-t|~Fabi
19:48 <K-Yo> :D
19:48 <epsy> noob7, [i][b]- Kenny [/b] -[/i]
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19:48 <epsy> wrtlprnft, not rica lol
19:48 <noob7> oh, I havent talked to her in weeks
19:48  * epsy neither, heh
19:48 <noob7> :o
19:51 <K-Yo> epsy, ca te dis de venit dire bonjour a Izual?
19:51 <K-Yo> tvenir
19:53 <epsy> K-Yo, t => ta touche pour parler sur arma? :)
19:53 <RayT> noob7, i'm french and I do speak English, but i suppose that when ppl of your own country come and say hello in your own language, you'll also speak your language with them for a while...
19:54 <noob7> actually no :) but I wasnt trying to insult you, I just noticed epsy speaking french a lot on this chan lately. I always try to speak english here as well as ingame because I find it rude to speak german, a language most people dont understand.
19:56 <epsy> noob7, we were talking about K-Yo and me's ISP which gone total shit in the past days
19:56 <epsy> noob7, nothing ausländer will really care about anyway
19:57 <noob7> not going to answer with "then do it in private if it isnt important" - because I really dont care
19:57 <noob7> :)
19:57 <K-Yo> epsy, pour le "t" c'est pas la premiere fois, j'ai trop du mal de passer de l'un a l'autre
19:57 <epsy> #arma.fr ? :(
19:57 <RayT> well, german is indeed hard to understand for anyone without any germanic language knowledge.... ppl who know a bit of anything similar like dutch, or netherlands... usually don't have difficulties with it
19:57 <epsy> K-Yo, j'utilise la touche d'insertion
19:58 <epsy> K-Yo, pendant un temps j'ai du laisser les touches t et s au chat
19:58 <epsy> paske sinon, bon tu vois le carnage koi
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19:59 <K-Yo> "insert"?
19:59 <noob13> #tea
20:00 <armabot> noob13: Fortress Café: Players (10/32): /dev/null/h4ck, Alpha Dog, CT_emmy, cT_K-Yo (K-Yo@crazy-tronners.com), I Am Me!, Kriki4, SpEeD, |x| FoFo, ~|DS-t|~Fabi, ~|DS|~G5
20:00 <epsy> K-Yo, au dessus de suppr et à gauche de 'début'
20:00 <K-Yo> je vois
20:00 <K-Yo> (je ss sur un laptop au fait ;))
20:00 <epsy> ah oui
20:00 <wrtlprnft_opera> french grammar is impossible to follow because it's so illogical to me
20:00 <epsy> c tjrs ds tt les sens et sa varie dun laptop à lautre ces touches
20:01 <epsy> wrtlprnft_opera, it's quite (too) open, yeah
20:01 <epsy> wrtlprnft_opera, all that stuff with locked propositions, also cases, really frustrates me
20:02 <noob13> and german grammar is logical? news to me. oO
20:02 <epsy> it's quite more structured
20:02 <wrtlprnft> what kind of language gives a different meaning to an adjective depending on whether it stands in front or after the noun?
20:02 <epsy> wrtlprnft_opera, un grand homme, un homme grand, do you feel the difference?
20:02 <epsy> hah
20:03 <wrtlprnft> totally
20:03 <wrtlprnft_opera> not
20:03 <epsy> heh
20:04 <wrtlprnft> ah, that's something i always wanted to try out. the order in which chat lines appear in different clients can vary
20:04 <wrtlprnft> test1
20:04 <wrtlprnft_opera> test2
20:04 <K-Yo> <wrtlprnft_opera> test2
20:04 <K-Yo> <wrtlprnft> test1
20:04 <epsy> same
20:04 <wrtlprnft> 20:04 <wrtlprnft> test1
20:04 <wrtlprnft> 20:04 <wrtlprnft_opera> test2
20:04 <wrtlprnft> that's from the wrtlprnft client
20:05 <epsy> but seriousely, all that s*** to have adjectives changing depending on case and all that case specific stuff..sucks!
20:05 <wrtlprnft> if two clients were connected to different servers of the same network the order could probably vary between a third and fourth client
20:05 <wrtlprnft> epsy: there's illogical parts in german, too, you just don't notice as a native speaker
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20:06 <epsy> j'ai donné une baguette au monsieur
20:06 <wrtlprnft> and anyways, I don't even remember which of the four german „Fälle“ is which. In fact i couldn't care less because i just intuitively choose the right one
20:07 <epsy> yeah that's raging us :P
20:07 <epsy> actually i've got more trouble applying the case than choosing the right one
20:09 <wrtlprnft> really?
20:09 <epsy> yes
20:09 <wrtlprnft> and the buisness about male/female/neutral articles
20:09 <wrtlprnft> but that's not that much better in french
20:09 <epsy> argh, long tive to english
20:09 <epsy> live*
20:10 <epsy> and long life to typos too
20:10 <wrtlprnft> »il est tres heures« ← er ist drei stunden? wtf?!
20:10 <wrtlprnft> yeah, enklisch ruls
20:10 <epsy> treize*
20:10 <wrtlprnft> ouch
20:10 <wrtlprnft> or trous
20:10 <wrtlprnft> or trouis
20:10 <wrtlprnft> or trois
20:10 <epsy> trois :)
20:10 <wrtlprnft> typos ftw
20:10 <wrtlprnft> no, i knew the last one was correct
20:11 <wrtlprnft> i just had a typo while correcting a typo
20:11 <epsy> that's what we call the "forme impersonnelle"
20:11 <wrtlprnft> and a typo correcting that
20:11 <epsy> probably comes from religious times..when people thought about these as divine actions (it's raining! « il pleut! »)
20:12 <epsy> then evolved into what we got now
20:13 <epsy> « il faudrait que j'achète un baguette »
20:13 <epsy> une*
20:14 <epsy> oh, you mean the lack of a neutral article?
20:14 <epsy> heh
20:14 <wrtlprnft> yeah
20:15 <epsy> never really hurted me
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20:40 <K-Yo> indeed, everything has a sex in france
20:48 <noob13> u guys should try learning Finnish to know the meaning of confusion.
20:48 <noob13> i think its pretty obscure in many ways.
20:49 <K-Yo> in many ways.
20:54 <epsy> #ping
20:54 <armabot> pong
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22:27 <wrtlprnft> #cfg decor
22:27 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Sorry, no matches :S
22:27 <wrtlprnft> #cfg _IPS
22:27 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Sorry, no matches :S
22:27 <wrtlprnft> #cfg IP
22:27 <armabot> wrtlprnft: ALLOW_ENEMIES_SAME_IP: If set to 1, this allows two players that apparently come from the same machine to fight for points with each other. (default: 0) || BAN_IP: Bans the spedified IP address from the server for a variable time. (default: ) || BUG_RIP: Allows the rim wall to be ripped open by a VERY close grind. (default: 0) || CAMERA_VISIBILITY_CLIP_SPEED: Speed with wich the visibility (2 more messages)
22:27 <wrtlprnft> #more
22:27 <armabot> wrtlprnft: targets is brought into view (default: 40) || MAX_CLIENTS_SAME_IP_HARD: Maximum number of network clients to accept from the same IP; more logins will be ignored (default: 8) || MAX_CLIENTS_SAME_IP_SOFT: Maximum number of network clients to accept from the same IP; more logins will get kicked when the server is full (default: 4) || MAX_PLAYERS_SAME_IP: maximum number of players from the (1 more message)
22:27 <wrtlprnft> #more
22:27 <armabot> wrtlprnft: same IP (note that each client can legally host up to four players) (default: 4) || SERVER_IP: IP the server listens on (default: ANY) || UNBAN_IP: Revokes the ban of the specified IP address. (default: )
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22:37 <Lackadaisical> how long untill the end of the day of the werewolf game?
22:38 <Monkey_arma> oO
22:39 <Lackadaisical> z-man: how long untill the end of the day of the werewolf game?
22:39 <wrtlprnft> Lackadaisical: tomorrow at 23:00 i think
22:39 <z-man> Well, originally, 26 hours.
22:40 <Lackadaisical> ok, thanks
22:40 <z-man> I posted the conditions for an early day end.
22:41 <Lackadaisical> guess i'll have to reread..
22:42 <wrtlprnft> maybe end the day if (the day would have regularily passed) || (there were no posts for 2 hours) && (everyone alive has posted) && (there's a majority)
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22:45 <wrtlprnft> Lackadaisical: your post totally looks like it's been written by a worm
22:46 <Lackadaisical> yeah i was afraid of that
22:46 <wrtlprnft> Lackadaisical: but there's just two or three wolves, so losing one would be really bad for them
22:47 <wrtlprnft> so i think your reasoning with noone jumping in for maz is actually a valid one
22:47 <Lackadaisical> the problem is that i'm jumping in for him now...
22:47 <Lackadaisical> sort of
22:47 <wrtlprnft> yeah
22:47 <Monkey_arma> looks interesting
22:48 <wrtlprnft> i wonder if i should change my vote to you
22:48 <Lackadaisical> but i think it's suspicious that jonathan 'just sealed maz' fate
22:48 <wrtlprnft> and if i can do that without raising supicions against me
22:48 <wrtlprnft> yeah, it's not like jonathan to not have a reason
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22:50 <Lackadaisical> i'd also think he'd know how bad it is to go around like an angry mob
22:50 <fonkay> zman around?
22:50 <Lackadaisical> yes
22:50 <fonkay> well maybe someone else can answer as well.
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22:50 <fonkay> When we lynch someone, do we get to find out if we suck or not?
22:51 <wrtlprnft> fonkay: no :-(
22:51 <wrtlprnft> i hope we do at the end
22:51 <fonkay> I'm assuming not, but curious
22:51 <fonkay> ahha
22:51 <fonkay> so we wont know until we've "won" or not.
22:52 <fonkay> that sure would add a new strategy to the game.
22:53 <wrtlprnft> it would?
22:53 <Lackadaisical> i thin it'd be too easy no? because if one wolf's out.. you'd know who voted against
22:56 <fonkay> it would.. maybe not for such a small group. but still
22:56 <fonkay> if it were a larger group of players, worms could vote for other worms to disguise themselves, and humans could vote for the wrong person... and so on.
22:57 <Lackadaisical> true
22:57 <wrtlprnft> i think it might be fun with a larger group if the worms wouldn't kill anyone but rather silently infect the other programs
22:57 <wrtlprnft> and the programs would lynch two people a day
22:57 <fonkay> and with a larger group, you would have many worms, so knowing you've killed say 2 out of 5 would be good to know.
22:58 <wrtlprnft> so every day one program gets newly infected and two get killed
22:58 <fonkay> odd...that would maybe be too hard
22:58 <Lackadaisical> i dont think you can win that without luck
22:59 <wrtlprnft> then help the normal programs a bit
22:59 <Monkey_arma> lucifer is being too subtle...i think he looks suspicious
22:59 <fonkay> i think i know a few people already.
22:59 <wrtlprnft> why do i get the feeling this will end up with me getting lynched now?
23:00 <fonkay> >:)
23:00 <Lackadaisical> did you reply?
23:00 <wrtlprnft> you're not gonna like it
23:00 <Lackadaisical> nvm
23:00 <fonkay> only one who hasn't is My mom
23:00 <wrtlprnft> lacks didn't vote yet
23:00 <fonkay> didn't say vote, we said reply
23:01 <wrtlprnft> yeah, but i imagine he might want to at some point
23:01 <Lackadaisical> well wrtl has already voted thrice
23:01 <wrtlprnft> four times actually
23:01 <fonkay> for different people though
23:01 <wrtlprnft> i talk too much
23:01 <fonkay> it's a maritime thing :P
23:01 <wrtlprnft> jonathan guru3 mazuffer Lackadaisical IIRC
23:02  * guru3 waves
23:02 <fonkay> Somehow I was the one who started the whole MaZ thing.
23:02 <guru3> the most thoughtless comments are devestating
23:02 <guru3> i've written a small book and no one cares
23:03 <wrtlprnft> if i was a NPC with the complete list of roles this would certainly be fun to watch
23:03  * wrtlprnft envies z-man 
23:03 <fonkay> well, i think people see the lnoger post and speeches as double-talk and trying to hard to be all innocent.
23:04 <wrtlprnft> maybe they keep their post short to avoid giving themselves away
23:05 <fonkay> Mostly because there's more to read into. You can't read much from a short blurb about nonsense and a vote.
23:05 <Lackadaisical> thats why im thinking its jonathan and durka
23:05 <Lackadaisical> (short posts)
23:05 <Lackadaisical> not really
23:05 <z-man> Nice avatars.
23:05 <fonkay> all my posts were short.. mostly because I don't have much else to say on the matter. No one has gunned for me yet, so I'm not in need of defending myself.
23:05 <guru3> Lackadaisical: maz's posts have been short
23:06 <fonkay> I like my new Dot avatar.
23:06 <guru3> not only have they been short, but they've all been trying to detract attention from himself
23:06 <MaZuffeR> as has everyone else's :P
23:06 <guru3> everyone else has made a self reference
23:06 <guru3> you haven't talked about yourself at all
23:07 <Lackadaisical> me?
23:07 <guru3> maz
23:07 <guru3> ddmj too
23:07 <fonkay> nice new post tank, love it.
23:07 <guru3> the first or the second one?
23:08 <fonkay> first i suppose
23:08 <guru3> i was losing track of things
23:08 <guru3> i needed to sum it all up
23:08 <guru3> thought it might be helpful to someone else as well :3
23:09 <Lackadaisical> not leaving anything out, are you? ;)
23:09 <fonkay> zman said we needed an absolute majority? so why change the vote wrt?
23:10 <guru3> your mom needs to have talked as well
23:10 <guru3> Lackadaisical: i don't think so
23:10 <fonkay> damn mother
23:10 <guru3> i suppose i should do a vote count
23:10 <fonkay> i have one
23:11 <Lackadaisical> it's like maz 5 lack 1 tank 1 or something?
23:11 <wrtlprnft> tank?
23:11 <fonkay> right now 5/10 for maz 1/10 for lack 1/10 for tank and 2 undecided.
23:11 <wrtlprnft> who's voting for tank?
23:11 <Lackadaisical> maz voted for tank
23:11 <fonkay> wait...
23:11 <Lackadaisical> we are only with nine
23:11 <guru3> 9 players
23:11 <fonkay> yea
23:12 <fonkay> lack and Y_M are yet to vote
23:12 <fonkay> wrtl changed to lack and maz for tank
23:12 <fonkay> everyone else is voting for MaZ
23:13 <Lackadaisical> wrtl, isn't voting for me pretty much saying that you think maz is a wolf (and i'm trying to save his butt)? so why did you change votes?
23:13 <fonkay> I kept having to read 3 pages of post every few hours to remember the players, and who voted for what, so i wrote it down.
23:13 <fonkay> why lack? is that what's happening
23:14 <guru3> Lackadaisical, don't take it personally
23:14 <guru3> he voted for me too
23:14 <fonkay> haha
23:14 <guru3> Jonathan, 1 retracted
23:14 <guru3> Lackadaisical, 1 current
23:14 <guru3> Maz, 5 current, 1 retracted
23:14 <guru3> Tank Program, 1 current, 1 retracted
23:14 <guru3> wrtlprnft, 1 retracted
23:15 <guru3> so far lucifer, fonkay, ddmj, and your mom have been above suspicion
23:15 <fonkay> that's cause I look so sweet and innocent.
23:15 <fonkay> it's my "special" power.
23:16 <guru3> it might be
23:16 <wrtlprnft> Lackadaisical: well, the reasoning is that in the current state of affairs maz is going to get lynched anyways. If you're trying to save his ass and it really sparks over and everyone votes against you, who cares? we can lynch maz in the next round
23:16 <wrtlprnft> Lackadaisical: if i voted for someone else everyone would think you and me were wolves
23:17 <Lackadaisical> I guess I did kind of succeed what i had wanted, less ganging up on one person which isn't going to help anyway
23:17 <fonkay> what about the absolute majority thing?
23:19 <fonkay> I say we vote maz for this round, 'cause why not? someone has to be the lamb, and we can get lack next round.
23:19 <Lackadaisical> you sound like a wolf
23:19 <fonkay> *worm tyvm
23:19 <Lackadaisical> yw
23:20 <fonkay> ma
23:20 <pippijn> tyvm sounds like a virtual machine (or actually, it looks like a window manager on first sight)
23:20 <guru3> ol
23:20 <guru3> lol even
23:22 <guru3> the thing is
23:22 <fonkay> Like i said already.. Unless someone jumps up and says "hey! I'm a worm" we're not in a place to make an educated decision at this point anyways. My strategy was to vote for someone, and watch the fuss and fighting. It's working fine so far.. WE still have until tomorrow night to finalize a vote.
23:23 <guru3> this game if you're not careful can be such a huge drain of time
23:23 <noob7> lucifer is the firewall
23:23 <fonkay> drain away from doing what exactly?
23:23 <noob7> :o
23:23 <guru3> meaningful things like watching tv -_-
23:25 <fonkay> I spent a good chunk of my day watching paint dry and chatting on here.. and getting paid for it, so I'm good.
23:28 <noob7> what type of paint? this is crucial information before asking where I can apply for your job
23:28 <joda_bot> fonkay: u get payed to chat with tron players :-) ... how deep can one sink ... ;)
23:30  * joda_bot is a bot ... and probably there are no bots in the game :-) only wolfes and worms :-)
23:31 <noob7> trying to channel the attention away there joda?
23:31  * z-man does not want to know how larger games would go around here
23:32 <z-man> noob7: joda is not playing :)
23:32 <noob7> even more suspicious isnt it?
23:32 <z-man> Yeah, go ahead and vote for him.
23:32  * noob7 isnt playing....
23:32 <noob7> wait!
23:33 <z-man> (The second last game over at IV, someone was lynched for voting for someone who was not playing. good fun ;) )
23:35 <guru3> lol
23:35 <z-man> Of course, he really was a wolf.
23:36 <noob7> the  guy that got lynched?
23:36 <z-man> yes.
23:36 <guru3> lol again
23:39  * wrtlprnft wonders if his avatar makes him suspicious
23:40 <guru3> just gave me an idea for one
23:41 <epsy> wrtlprnft, whatever role you're playing, you're compromising your team :P
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23:46 <fonkay> stupid hardware malfunction.
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00:16 <noob7> hey there worm program
00:16 <Your_mom_arma> #ping
00:16 <armabot> pong
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00:23 <Your_mom_arma> the day ends in 30 mins right?
00:23 <guru3> no
00:24 <guru3> 20-something hours
00:24 <noob7> lol
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00:40 <noob7> mazuffer, you ARE the worm right?
00:40 <noob7> and you know lucifer is the firewall?
00:40 <noob7> :)
00:40 <MaZuffeR> i thought i was the firewall and lucifer the worm?
00:40 <noob7> oh!
00:41 <noob7> now it all makes sense
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00:43 <noob7> but between the two of us.. mazuffer, you ARE the worm right? xD
00:43 <guru3> he says in public irc
00:43 <noob7> thats the point guru
00:43 <MaZuffeR> no, i'm not the worm
00:44 <noob7> now I have to start all over again
00:44 <noob7> I thought I had this pieced together
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00:46 <z-man> Lynch noob7!
00:46 <noob7> :o
00:46 <noob7> YOU are the worm
00:46 <z-man> Of course :)
00:46 <noob7> :)
00:48 <noob7> next round needs a betting system
00:48 <noob7> where the non playing dudes can make bets
00:49 <madmax> as long as we actually make money!
00:49 <noob7> just keep the money
00:50 <noob7> phish some paypal logins while receiving bets
00:50 <guru3> noob7: that's an interesting idea of a way to involve non-players
00:50 <noob7> :) and raise some money
00:50 <guru3> gm takes 20%
00:50 <noob7> for example
00:51 <noob7> the thing is, players would act depending on the bets...
00:51 <noob7> would change the game, or maybe just give it a twist
00:52 <z-man> bets would need to be secret, of course.
00:52 <Your_mom_arma> or we could just fake setup the game so that the players who bet will always lose more money then they win and keep the profits
00:52 <z-man> and the GM would not be allowed to mess with the game.
00:52 <z-man> ooh, nice idea.
00:52 <noob7> ching ching
00:52 <z-man> How about just declaring the day end to be in 12 hours?
00:53 <z-man> should give the remaining player(s) *cough* enough time to do their stuff.
00:53 <Your_mom_arma> haha
00:53 <guru3> <<
00:53 <guru3> >>
00:53 <guru3> <<
00:53 <guru3> >>
00:53 <Your_mom_arma> it has to be guru 3 look at his shifty eyes
00:54 <z-man> he's clearly plotting something.
00:54 <noob7> can I bet?
00:54 <z-man> no.
00:54 <noob7> argh screw this game then
00:55 <guru3> lol
00:55 <noob7> :)
00:55 <Monkey_arma> i still think lucifer is dodhy
00:55 <Monkey_arma> *g
00:55 <noob7> lucifer would make the perfect worm, BUT the roles were picked randomly
00:56  * z-man would prefer if noob7 could keep his thoughts to himself
00:56 <noob7> you mean "the spam down" ?
00:56 <Monkey_arma> z-man, is he guessing too correctly?
00:56 <z-man> that, too.
00:56 <z-man> Monkey_arma: irrelevant.
00:56 <Monkey_arma> i take that as a yes
00:56 <noob7> hehe, ok I'll shut up :)
00:57 <z-man> He's not playing and can spam witout the risk of getting lynched by a mob
00:57 <z-man> that's not fair :)
00:57 <Monkey_arma> we can all spam without risk of a mob lynching
00:57 <Monkey_arma> SPAM
00:57 <Monkey_arma> SPAM
00:57 <Monkey_arma> SPAM
00:57 <Monkey_arma> SPAM
00:57  * Monkey_arma stops
00:57 <madmax> you can get kicked though
00:57 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o guru3] by ChanServ
00:57 <Monkey_arma> lol
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00:57 <noob7> :o
00:57 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o guru3] by guru3
00:57 <Your_mom_arma> hahaha
00:57 <madmax> right.
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00:58 <Monkey_arma> lmao
00:59 <Monkey_arma> that is the second time i have ever been kicked off here
00:59 <Monkey_arma> the first was for doing a #insult on lucifer
00:59 <noob7> what was your first offence? public nudity?
00:59 <Monkey_arma> that was a long time ago
00:59 <Monkey_arma> oh hang on that was from #afl i think
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01:36 <Durka> Lucifer you here?
01:40 <fonkay> no one around?
01:41 <Durka> fonkay :P
01:42 <Durka> fonkay I totally know you're one of the worms ;)
01:43 <noob7> durka, for 50 e-gold I'll let you in on who's a worm and who's not
01:43 <Durka> o_O you're awake?
01:43 <Durka> MSN
01:43 <Durka> and no thanks, I need that money to pay off Angel :O
01:43 <noob7> its not even 2am...
01:45 <Durka> right right
01:47 <Durka> Monkey_arma: ping
01:47 <Your_mom_arma> heh durka you had the same idea as me, you posted it while I was typing my post up
01:48 <Durka> haha mom when I got on here I was going to ping you to tell you that the game has started
01:48 <Durka> we're each one-step ahead of eachother :D
01:48 <noob13> #monkey
01:48 <armabot> noob13: Monkey seems to be on  Wild West  =Capture The Flag= right now.
01:49 <fonkay> I am not.
01:49 <Durka> is that a serious alias on here?
01:51 <Your_mom_arma> heh the [twg] thread has 48 posts and 869 views
01:52 <fonkay> that's cause people who haven't written anything down have to reread it over and over.
01:52 <Your_mom_arma> only because luci wrtl and tank talk in circles
01:52 <fonkay> I for one have been writing down all the votes for that very reason
01:52 <fonkay> well that's a given
01:53 <Durka> I like the game though
01:53 <fonkay> It was very one way this morning... all but one for maz. Now it's all over the place. I can only imagine what tomorrow will bring.
01:54 <Durka> but I'm still a bit shaky on the rules though
01:54 <Your_mom_arma> how many times has wrtl revoted?
01:54 <fonkay> 4 votes MaZ. 1 vote Lack. 1 vote Tank. 2 votes Jonathan.
01:54 <fonkay> and one undecided.
01:54 <fonkay> 4-5?
01:55 <Your_mom_arma> durka what about?
01:55 <Your_mom_arma> lacks didn't vote right?
01:55 <fonkay> yea
01:55 <Durka> well
01:55 <fonkay> which makes me suspect maz more
01:55 <Durka> so there's at LEAST one worm right?
01:55 <fonkay> at least 2
01:55 <Durka> wait...
01:56 <Durka> I thought it was at least one
01:56 <Durka> most likely 2 but could be one right?
01:56 <noob7> luci = worm, mazuffer = firewall, my paypal donate link is donate@mastercontrolprogram.de
01:56 <noob7> thanks
01:56 <fonkay> no, at least 2
01:57 <noob7> cant name the other, would kill my profits for next round duh
01:57 <fonkay> I forget where I read that.
01:57 <fonkay> "Right. There are at least two of them, otherwise the game makes no sense (a single werewolf cannot be spotted by anyone but the Seer). "
01:58 <fonkay> zman's second post.
01:58 <Your_mom_arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=196271#196271
01:58 <fonkay> I would guess that there are only 2...
01:59 <fonkay> Still, I'm sticking with MaZ on this one... at first the choice was just a shot in the dark, but the more people talk the more I suspect him.
02:00 <Durka> well
02:00 <fonkay> You both missed a lot of idle chat today..
02:00 <fonkay> Either MaZ is a worm, or Lack is a virus scanner.
02:02 <fonkay> no wait, scratch that... because Lack wouldn't know about anyone until tomorrow night.. So yea. In my hollow head MaZ is a worm. Although Jon was my choice at first.
02:03 <fonkay> Ok, now I feel like I'm talking to myself.
02:04 <Your_mom_arma> it's being read
02:04 <Your_mom_arma> everyone's a bit cautious when talking about the game
02:06 <fonkay> Well, everyone's been suspecting people who don't talk much and are trying to stay under the radar. So I'm just gonna say what I think when I think it.. That'll be my strategy.
02:07 <fonkay> there's only 3 people that haven't been suspected so far I believe.
02:07 <Your_mom_arma> It's a decent strategy
02:07 <fonkay> and 4 who haven't been voted fro.
02:07 <fonkay> for
02:08 <fonkay> plus I just talk too much in general, especially when I have something to talk about.
02:09 <Durka> Village -> Mainframe
02:09 <Durka> Villager -> Program
02:09 <Durka> Werewolf -> Worm/Virus
02:09 <Durka> Seer -> Virus Scanner
02:09 <Durka> Guardian Angel -> Firewall
02:09 <Durka> Vigilante -> The 'kill' Program
02:09 <noob7> custom connect mastercontrolprogram.de:4538  for armagetronad wolfenstein 3d
02:09 <Your_mom_arma> durka wth?
02:09 <fonkay> ?
02:09 <Durka> so this means of the 9 players, there's 1 one of each (program, worm, virus scanner, firewall) ?
02:09 <fonkay> no
02:09 <Durka> hmm
02:10 <Your_mom_arma> durka the semi colon is usefull for lists
02:10 <fonkay> there are at least 2 worms. one of each of the virus scanner, firewall and the "kill" program and the rest are just programs,
02:10 <Your_mom_arma> :)
02:11 <Durka> so that means
02:11 <Durka> with my amazing math
02:11 <Durka> 2+1+1+1 = 5, and 9-5 = 4, so there are at most 4 normal programs?
02:12 <Your_mom_arma> more or less
02:12 <fonkay> look at you, you can add
02:12 <fonkay> and subtract!
02:13 <fonkay> which means that if there are 3 worms, there are 3+3+3
02:13 <fonkay> but in actuality the 3 "special" people are also programs.
02:13 <Durka> do the "special" people
02:14 <Durka> when do they find out if they're special people
02:14 <fonkay> so it would be 3+(3+3)
02:14 <Durka> 4! - 1 :O
02:14 <Durka> er way off
02:14 <fonkay> when they were assigned today/yesterday
02:14 <Durka> ok
02:14 <fonkay> via PM
02:15 <Durka> so since zman told me i'm a worm what does that mean?
02:15 <fonkay> that you're a douche
02:15 <Your_mom_arma> haha
02:15 <Durka> k gotcha ;)
02:15 <Durka> but in all seriousness
02:15 <Your_mom_arma> I'm just trying to figure out what luci is
02:15 <Durka> what can the virus scanner, the firewall, and the "kill" program do?
02:16 <fonkay> did you not read the thread at all?
02:17 <Your_mom_arma> luci say's he's a worm a virus scanner and a firewall
02:18 <fonkay> to you? or on the thread?
02:18 <Durka> fonkay ;(
02:18 <Your_mom_arma> in the thread
02:19 <Durka> luci also says he's not a worm
02:20 <Your_mom_arma> if you say you're not a worm you're saying you are one
02:20 <fonkay> I think luci's picking the interesting strategy of saying something abuot every position, so that when he says something about his own postition it doesn't seem suspisiuos
02:20 <Your_mom_arma> fonkay: exactly
02:21 <Durka> good call fonk
02:22 <fonkay> i don't think he's saying he is or isn't any position. He's just stating facts about those positions.
02:22 <fonkay> for the most part.
02:24 <fonkay> I'm still sticking with maz anyhow.
02:24 <Your_mom_arma> did he give himself away in irc?
02:24 <fonkay> not exactly.
02:25 <fonkay> with things like this you can tell a lot from what people don't say
02:26 <fonkay> like if you're having a convestion with a few people about the game, and they avoid commenting on a certain topic.
02:27 <Your_mom_arma> fair enough
02:27 <fonkay> good god I'm going typo crazy on this keyboard.
02:28 <Monkey_arma> yo Durka you called?
02:28 <Durka> Monkey_arma: yea nvr mind
02:28 <Monkey_arma> oO
02:28 <fonkay> My thought is, that I were trying to hide something, I wouldn't avoid commenting on things, I would just say something arbitrary or untrue.
02:28 <Monkey_arma> you  cant call and then  say nvm...
02:29 <fonkay> yo monkey
02:29 <Monkey_arma> you fonkay
02:29 <Monkey_arma> er yo
02:29  * Monkey_arma cant spell
02:29 <fonkay> I can't speel either... ask the random quotes.
02:30 <noob7> like you are doing right now fonkey? I mean the commenting on things stuff...
02:30 <fonkay> Yea, just like that.
02:31 <fonkay> avoiding a question or comment makes you look just as guilty.
02:31 <noob7> :)
02:32 <fonkay> my strat is a lot like luci's now that I think about it
02:32 <noob7> and now that you are commenting on it we can assume your strategy to be a completely different one :P
02:33 <fonkay> naw, why change what's working for me?
02:33 <Your_mom_arma> left is right, up is down, black is white everything is nothing.... Boom
02:33 <noob7> you play poker?
02:33 <noob7> you have to switch up to confuse your oponent
02:33 <noob7> one strategy is not enough
02:33 <fonkay> If I didn't want people to know (I assume people are smart enough to see through it anyways) I wouldn
02:33 <fonkay> t have said anything.
02:34 <fonkay> one strategy is enough when it's a good one.
02:34 <noob7> prove it. WORM!
02:35 <Your_mom_arma> noob7 accusing everyone will make the victory shallow when you tell everyone you where right at the end
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02:35 <noob7> actually this whole thing has me so confused I am glad I didnt sign up
02:35 <noob7> I just want to bet on people
02:35 <fonkay> like I said before, no one suspects me yet, cause I look too sweet and innocent.
02:36 <noob7> yet? you think people WILL suspect you?
02:36 <noob7> :)
02:37 <fonkay> everyone was suspecting you at first... since you were the last to post
02:37 <Your_mom_arma> who noob7?
02:37 <noob7> :)
02:37 <fonkay> no, you
02:37 <noob7> <- just a noob
02:37 <fonkay> well not at _first_ but earlier
02:38 <Monkey_arma> its all a bit confusing to me too.. i read some of it and gave up
02:38 <fonkay> Would be nice if we could set up some sort of actual irc chat time though.
02:38 <Your_mom_arma> heh I told z-man to lengthen the sunset before everyone was told their roles
02:39 <fonkay> would be nice to be able to chat with all 9 at once.
02:39 <fonkay> why lengthen the sunset?
02:39 <Your_mom_arma> that makes more sense
02:40 <fonkay> I'm confuse... what do you mean exactly by lengthening the sunset? when, tomorrow?
02:40 <Your_mom_arma> ?
02:40 <Your_mom_arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=196178#196178
02:40 <Your_mom_arma> sunset=>sundown
02:41  * Monkey_arma suspects #armagetron is turning into a mud
02:41 <fonkay> so you pushed it back an hour? for what end?
02:41 <fonkay> or is it "to what end"?
02:42 <Your_mom_arma> to avoid real life scheduling conflicts
02:42 <fonkay> ah
02:42 <noob7> right, more like firewall updates
02:42 <fonkay> well we still have close to 24hrs to sit and stew yet
02:42 <Your_mom_arma> and for luci to post and lacks to vote
02:43 <fonkay> I'm thinking that 48hr days is a bit long. I dunno if this is just for today... or the whole game
02:43 <Your_mom_arma> second
02:43 <fonkay> even at 24 hrs we have over 10 recanted votes.
02:44 <Your_mom_arma> haha
02:44 <Your_mom_arma> well if its 24 hour days its only 2 days min 4 days max I think
02:45 <fonkay> uhh.. 4-5 max i guess.
02:45 <fonkay> or is it 6 max?
02:46 <Your_mom_arma> mabey longer if the firewall cheats
02:46 <fonkay> how can the firewall cheat?
02:46 <Your_mom_arma> be tank and look at pm's
02:46 <fonkay> oh....
02:46 <fonkay> he wouldn't would he?
02:46 <Your_mom_arma> nah
02:47 <Your_mom_arma> there's nothing to gain and a lot to lose
02:48 <fonkay> so we know you're not a program... so what are you I wonder.
02:48 <fonkay> hmm.
02:49 <fonkay> and by we I mean I... and by know i mean am pretty sure.
02:49 <Your_mom_arma> may I ask what gave you that idea?
02:50 <fonkay> you just did.
02:51 <Your_mom_arma> huh
02:52 <fonkay> you just asked.
02:52 <fonkay> I wont say everything... but for 1, you're too scared and worried to not have anything to hide.
02:53 <fonkay> I'm gonna take a smoke break now... you gonna be here when i get back? or are you taking off to do more productive things?
02:54 <Your_mom_arma> I'll probably still be here
02:54 <fonkay> ko, bbi5.
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03:01 <fonkay> back
03:01 <Your_mom_arma> pong
03:02 <Your_mom_arma> I don't see what made me appear to look scared and/or worried
03:02 <fonkay> that's cause you're you...
03:03 <fonkay> you were trying to not look suspicious..
03:03 <Your_mom_arma> ouch?
03:03 <spidey__> anyone wanna play civ?
03:03 <spidey__> D:
03:03 <fonkay> so you cunt see where you went wrong. I like to think I can read people pretty well.
03:04 <fonkay> wow nice typo
03:04 <Your_mom_arma> hahaha
03:04 <spidey__> fonkay,don't call me that
03:04 <spidey__> :<
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03:04 <Your_mom_arma> so by not looking suspicius im a suspect?
03:04 <spidey> sounds like someone's paranoidD:
03:04 <Your_mom_arma> second
03:05 <spidey> so
03:05 <spidey> wtf are ya'll talking about?
03:05 <Your_mom_arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18374
03:05 <spidey> i see
03:06 <spidey> sounds fun, who wants to play freeciv? :D
03:06 <Your_mom_arma> I just don't see a game coming together today spidey
03:06 <fonkay> Like I said, you don't get it.
03:07 <spidey> Your_mom_arma, maybe if i can get luke and luci, and wire to play :P
03:07 <Your_mom_arma> fonkay: ouch
03:09 <Your_mom_arma> by your logic then I suspect you're the worm
03:09 <fonkay> By your statement I suspect you're hiding something.
03:10 <spidey> by both your statements, i suspect you're both paranoid
03:10 <spidey> luke-jr, freeciv?
03:14 <fonkay> I didn't mean for it to be insulting btw
03:15 <Your_mom_arma> np, this type of game leads to a lot of accusations and a few glancing insult blows
03:16 <Your_mom_arma> none of it's personal
03:16 <fonkay> hehe yea, and a lot of paranoia
03:18 <Your_mom_arma> but it appears we're at an inpass... you don't trust me and if we continue thinking the other one's against us the conversation won't progress... but we can't change the topic because then one of us would look suspicious
03:20 <fonkay> change the topic to what exactly?
03:20 <spidey> oh i know i know!
03:20 <spidey> how about, who wants to play freeciv? :D
03:20 <noob7> #freeciv
03:21 <spidey> i don't like them
03:21 <spidey> :P
03:21 <noob7> :P
03:21 <Your_mom_arma> noob7 fix your server
03:21 <noob7> has apache died again?
03:21 <noob7> oh he just wants to get rid of me, ok
03:21 <Your_mom_arma> did you fix your resource problem yet?
03:22 <noob7> not so sure
03:22 <noob7> I think 13 fixed that, yes
03:22 <fonkay> fine, Are you still willing to talk game? or are you ready to move along to something else?
03:22 <noob7> if you mean the dtd in wrong location problem
03:23 <Your_mom_arma> we can keep talking about the game
03:23 <fonkay> ko, what made you vote for jon?
03:24 <Your_mom_arma> pretty much that same reason as durka I guess
03:24 <fonkay> cause he wasn't MaZ?
03:25 <Monkey_arma> is freeciv any good, does it run on linux?
03:26 <Your_mom_arma> jons position was too convenient. I've known maz for a while he doesn't talk a lot and sometimes when he does I don't quite get what he's saying
03:26 <noob7> oh monkey lol :P
03:26 <luke-jr> Your_mom_arma: coming?
03:27 <Your_mom_arma> truthfully I suspected you and durka of being worms because of how you voted
03:27 <fonkay> this is true. maz and I used to partners on fortress alot back in the day. he never was a chetty guy.
03:27 <fonkay> short response?
03:29 <Your_mom_arma> you and durka both seemed to agree pretty quickly that maz should be voted off
03:30 <Your_mom_arma> luke-jr: pong
03:31 <fonkay> well... technically. I said I was taking a shot in the dark (going off names from the player list) and that I was voting for jon at first... everyone just kinda followed.
03:33 <luke-jr> z-man-work: too late to join?
03:33 <Monkey_arma> i have been looking for other good games for linux but havent really found any that arent first person shooters...
03:34 <Monkey_arma> not that tron isnt awesome ....
03:34 <Monkey_arma> :)
03:34 <Your_mom_arma> luke-jr: who else is playing?
03:34 <luke-jr> Your_mom_arma: civ, me and spidey
03:34 <Your_mom_arma> [free]civ?
03:34 <luke-jr> no, expensiveciv
03:35 <Your_mom_arma> I ment a player named c I v heh
03:38 <Your_mom_arma> luke-jr: connect info?
03:38 <fonkay> i'm fairly certain about who's a program so far
03:38 <luke-jr> Your_mom_arma: ask spidey
03:39 <Your_mom_arma> fonkay I feel like every time you say something your testing me
03:40 <fonkay> haha, sorry 'bout that mate.
03:40 <Lucifer> ok, let's knock out dorka and wrtpwned
03:40 <Lucifer> :)
03:40 <fonkay> I'm not.(although i know you wont believe me)
03:41 <fonkay> it's more like when you do something that seems out of character that i notice that.
03:41 <fonkay> I'm not provoking you to slip up..
03:41 <fonkay> No go for me luci.
03:42 <Lucifer> you don't think they're worms?  Or you have a better idea?
03:42 <Lucifer> mind you, if you're a regular program, I'll go along with anything you say that hangs a worm :)
03:42 <luke-jr> Lucifer: if the worms kill the security program early, you'll never hear from them
03:42 <fonkay> i don't think they're worms / i have my own ideas.
03:42 <noob7> lucifer you are a worm right? I mean you'd make the perfect worm... and even if all the roles were assigned "randomly" - there probably was some "switching around" done by hand, right?
03:43 <Lucifer> see if you can come up with a way to solicit a response from the virus scanner, if we've got one.  I'd like to do that myself, heh
03:43 <Lucifer> noob7: nah, z-man did it totally randomly.  He's the only one in this game you can completely trust :)
03:43 <noob7> I am not so sure about the trust issue :P
03:43 <Lucifer> heh.  are you playing?
03:44 <noob7> nope, sadly I didnt sign up
03:44 <luke-jr> noob7: maybe we should organize a second game
03:44 <Lucifer> oh good, you can find out who's the virus scanner for us :)
03:44 <fonkay> well, how about i'll just PM the scan results luci?
03:44 <noob7> luke: most definitely! and lucifer, I wouldnt know how to...
03:45 <Lucifer> sure, the catch being that there's no good reason for you to say here in irc that you're the virus scanner....
03:45 <Lucifer> I think all the players in teh game come in here, and armabot's logs are public...
03:45 <fonkay> yea, it was a poorly executed sarcastic remark.
03:46 <Lucifer> not trying to be so suspicious you can't talk to me, PM me what you find out, just trying to maintain an appropriate level of sarcasm
03:46 <Lucifer> er, not sarcasm, skepticism
03:46 <noob7> did he just give himself away? :o
03:46 <Lucifer> ah, right.
03:46  * noob7 is going to bed! gn ya'll
03:46 <fonkay> yea, i've got no clue how to safely get info from the scanner.
03:46 <Lucifer> this is a good game for internet play, it takes advantage of the fact that it's so easy to misread what people say :)
03:47 <Lucifer> problem is, any safe ruse to get the scanner to PM you would also work if you're a worm, and the scanner doesn't want a worm to know about that
03:47  * luke-jr notes the virus scanner can never be known
03:47 <fonkay> i've got my idea of a layout so far. i'm trying to decide if there are 2 or 3 worms.
03:47 <luke-jr> except by worms
03:48 <Lucifer> heh, I'm pretty much decided that whateer the sides, tank and wrt are on different sides
03:48 <Lucifer> or they're awfully well coordinated
03:48 <fonkay> or they could be the same thing and just not know it..
03:48 <Lucifer> the worms will know each other
03:49 <Lucifer> that's part of the rules ;)
03:49 <fonkay> they could easily both be programs and just be suspicious of each other.
03:49 <Lucifer> it's why the regular programs are at such a disadvantage
03:49 <spidey> sorry
03:49 <spidey> just got back
03:49 <spidey> Your_mom_arma,
03:49 <Lucifer> I think they've both tried really hard to pin the worm label on each other
03:49 <spidey> i made breakfast
03:50 <spidey> lucifer, civ?
03:50 <Lucifer> NO CIV!
03:50 <fonkay> well... not in my head, neither of them are voting for the other, and I've talked to both seperately, and neither have mentioned the other.
03:50 <spidey> :<
03:50 <fonkay> and least not in a pushing way
03:51 <Lucifer> there is the additional problem in my reasoning that wrt and tank pretty much bootstrapped the game, so some of their early posts are likely just rubbish
03:51  * luke-jr votes z-man-work add noob7 and him since it is still turn 1
03:52 <luke-jr> and if there's only 2 worms, turn a random program into a third
03:52 <fonkay> bootstrapped?
03:53 <spidey> luke-jr, guess it's just me and you, unless mom's gonna play D:
03:53 <Lucifer> bootstrapped, er, kickstarted?
03:53 <Lucifer> spidey: that means you already know you'll win ;)
03:53 <fonkay> ko, yea.. like what I was talking about earlier
03:53 <spidey> haha
03:54 <luke-jr> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=196285#196285
03:54 <Lucifer> I guess you can't accept pm's here, huh?
03:55 <Your_mom_arma> spidey: pong nah if I do play it won't be long to get my civilization off the ground
03:55 <fonkay> me?
03:55 <luke-jr> Lucifer: if you're not ignoring me, anyone can accept PMs; but by default, nobody registered accepts PMs from unreg'd users
03:55 <Lucifer> yeah, you
03:55 <luke-jr> there's a NickServ option to accept them though
03:55 <spidey> Your_mom_arma, ok :(
03:55 <luke-jr> fonkay: if Lucifer is ignoring me, tell him to change the NickServ option to allow PMs from unregistered users
03:55 <ct|kyle> i did not think Lucifer spoke in here anymore
03:55 <Your_mom_arma> so you think jon was just lucky?
03:56 <Your_mom_arma> it may be the case
03:56 <Lucifer> Lucifer_bed doesn't talk in here very often
03:56 <fonkay> lucky with what?
03:56 <Lucifer> I came in here for TWG
03:56 <luke-jr> Your_mom_arma: I see reason to suspect Jon
03:56 <Lucifer> ;)
03:56 <fonkay> not sure if i can get PM's on here luci, how would I know?
03:56 <Lucifer> you're not identified, you can't get pm's
03:56 <Lucifer> :(
03:57 <Your_mom_arma> no
03:57 <Your_mom_arma> a registered user can pm an unreg
03:57 <luke-jr> fonkay: "non-identified users can get PMs, but identified users need to configure NickServ to receive PMs from non-identified"
03:57 <Your_mom_arma> what luke said
03:57 <luke-jr> fonkay: repeat so Lucifer can hear you
03:58 <Lucifer> luke's been talking?  That's cool, means my ignore thing still works
03:58 <Your_mom_arma> she can get pm's but not send them
03:58 <fonkay> ah
03:58 <luke-jr> Your_mom_arma: NickServ has an option to allow PMs from unreg'd
03:58 <fonkay> how would you be "identified"?
03:58 <spidey> ./msg nickserv register fonkay password
03:59 <spidey> then /msg nickserv identify password
03:59 <fonkay> bah fuck it.
03:59 <luke-jr> or someone could just tell Lucifer to change his setting
03:59 <Your_mom_arma> good ol' pidgn makes it seemless
03:59 <luke-jr> #echo [21:03:23] <luke-jr> fonkay: "non-identified users can get PMs, but identified users need to configure NickServ to receive PMs from non-identified"
03:59 <armabot> [21:03:23] <luke-jr> fonkay: non-identified users can get PMs, but identified users need to configure NickServ to receive PMs from non-identified
03:59 <Lucifer> bbiab
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04:02 <Your_mom_arma> well in my mind me luci fonkey and maz aren't worms with lacks and luci likely having a special
04:02 <fonkay> i suspect lack of being a worm.
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04:03  * luke-jr thinks he knows both worms.
04:03 <fonkay> spidey
04:03 <spidey> fonkay,
04:03 <fonkay> so what you put earlier, all i have to do is type that shit in, and i'll be "identified"?
04:03 <Your_mom_arma> I can't read through wtrl and tanks double talk so I can't be sure where they stand
04:04 <luke-jr> spidey: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18374
04:04 <spidey> read it twice
04:05 <luke-jr> so join with noob7 and I :þ
04:05 <fonkay> bah
04:07 <spidey> when does it start?
04:07 <fonkay> how do i know if i did it right?
04:08 <Your_mom_arma> your not identified
04:08 <luke-jr> spidey: it started today, but turn 1 isn't over yet
04:08 <luke-jr> so I'm hoping z-man-work lets us join
04:09 <fonkay> now?
04:10 <Your_mom_arma> yep
04:10 <fonkay> yay
04:10 <fonkay> he wont luke
04:10 <spidey> luke-jr, i'd have no idea what i'm doing
04:10 <spidey> lo
04:10 <luke-jr> it's easy
04:10 <luke-jr> fonkay: why not?
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04:11 <fonkay> cause if you join after the idents have been passed out, you're too obvious.
04:11 <luke-jr> obvious what?
04:11 <luke-jr> there's nothing obvious
04:12 <fonkay> nvm
04:13 <Your_mom_arma>  /msg nick for pms right?
04:15 <cusco> or /query nick
04:15 <cusco> to open a query
04:18 <fonkay> yea, even on further thought... letting people into the game at this point would be awfull.
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04:18 <fonkay> if the game is fun we'll play again, and more people can join in,
04:19 <luke-jr> nonsense, there is no reason not to let new players during the first turn
04:20 <fonkay> this is the first vote... but the roles have been passed out, which means you're already narrowed down to 1 of 2 things, either a program or a worm.
04:21 <luke-jr> meh, the specials aren't that relevant
04:21 <luke-jr> you'll never figure out who they are anyway
04:21  * fonkay suddenly remembers why she doesn't talk to luke.
04:22 <Your_mom_arma> there's no point since another worm would likely be added and the virus scan would check one and know which of the two was a worm
04:23 <Your_mom_arma> it just needlessly lengthens the game
04:23 <luke-jr> Your_mom_arma: the new worm can easily be random of all programs
04:24 <fonkay> that doesn't even make sense.
04:24 <luke-jr> sure it does
04:25 <luke-jr> you have 9 players now
04:25 <luke-jr> 4 of them are normal programs
04:25 <luke-jr> + 3 new players
04:25 <luke-jr> 1 in 7 chance of being the new worm
04:25 <luke-jr> assuming specials can't be worms
04:25 <luke-jr> 1 in 9 if they can
04:26 <fonkay> your logic is faulty... i don't think you actually know how the game works.
04:26 <luke-jr> or maybe you don't
04:27 <luke-jr> or maybe you're a third worm that doesn't want me to tell on the other 2
04:33 <fonkay> ko bbi5
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04:55 <spidey> #ping
04:55 <armabot> pong
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04:59 <fonkay> k bye
05:00 <luke-jr> dorka's smart
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05:47 <luke-jr> noob7: here?
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06:07 <Durka_> wtf !!!
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06:08 <Durka> damn ghosts :S
06:10 <hoax> ɐʞɹnp :D
06:12 <Durka> :)
06:13 <Durka> hoax: http://durkadurkaland.com/stuff.php?page=find
06:13 <hoax> hah
06:14 <hoax> noice
06:14 <hoax> ¦×¦ Hoax has last been seen on Wild West =Capture The Flag= 29 minutes ago.
06:14  * hoax got desperate :(
06:14 <Durka> :O
06:15 <hoax> #si capt
06:15 <armabot> hoax: Wild West  =Capture The Flag=: Players (7/10): Crimson Cherry, L2K|Jag Solo, Monkey, oMeGaTrOn, paco la chimpa, snowfall, Solo(Ray
06:15 <hoax>  Monkey
06:15 <hoax> been in there the whole night
06:16 <hoax> aint just the flag hes losing
06:16 <Durka> haha so true xD
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06:19 <Monkey_arma> excuse a me !
06:19 <Monkey_arma> #slap hoax and durka
06:19 <armabot> Monkey_arma slaps hoax and durka for being a raving moron.
06:19 <Durka> ...
06:20 <hoax> LOL!
06:20 <Monkey_arma> my HD is going bonkers
06:20 <Monkey_arma> it wont stop
06:20 <Durka> hoax, look what gay alias monkey made
06:20 <Durka> #monkey
06:20 <armabot> Durka: Dr. Lovemonkey seems to be on - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - right now.
06:21 <hoax> LOL
06:21 <Monkey_arma> oO
06:21 <hoax> even infas lost it
06:21 <Monkey_arma> too many monkeys
06:21 <hoax> #ls infamous
06:21 <armabot> hoax: timed out
06:21 <hoax> #infamous
06:22 <hoax> armabot sucks these days
06:22 <Monkey_arma> yes
06:22 <hoax> #x
06:22 <armabot> hoax: ¦×¦.Team.Sumo.Server: Players (0/16):
06:22 <hoax> well, mostly
06:22 <hoax> :D
06:22 <Durka> #ddl
06:22 <armabot> Durka: - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | -: Players (5/16): B1iNkk, Dr. Lovemonkey, poison, TheCox, War Mon/<ey
06:22 <Monkey_arma> i swear my computer is totally fecked
06:23 <Monkey_arma> #lastseen foolish monkey
06:23 <armabot> Monkey_arma: foolish monkey has last been seen on  Wild West  =Team Sumo= 1 hour 17 minutes ago.
06:23 <Monkey_arma> #lastseen Monkey.L.Duffy
06:23 <armabot> Monkey_arma: timed out
06:23 <Monkey_arma> too many monkeys
06:23 <Monkey_arma> #lastseen duffy
06:23 <armabot> Monkey_arma: timed out
06:24 <Durka> Monkey_arma: http://durkadurkaland.com/stuff.php?page=find
06:25 <Monkey_arma> ?
06:25 <Monkey_arma> is that like lastseen?
06:26 <Monkey_arma> yes it is
06:26 <hoax> well u know what they say about monkeys & the internet ;)
06:26 <Monkey_arma> oO
06:27 <Monkey_arma> no
06:27 <hoax> tsk nvm
06:27 <hoax> lol
06:28 <luke-jr> lol
06:28 <hoax> luke-jr!
06:28 <luke-jr> f u hoax
06:28 <hoax> wtf!
06:29 <luke-jr> unless ur gonna buy teh server
06:29 <luke-jr> then ur ok
06:29 <luke-jr> lol
06:29 <hoax> haha :D
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07:43 <Monkey_arma> hi genki
07:44  * spidey slaps worm
07:44 <hoax> oO
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15:51 <epsy> hi
15:51 <Monkey_arma> eeeeeeeeeeppppssssssssssyyyyyyyyyy
15:52 <hoax> still awake eh monk
15:53 <Monkey_arma> ===============> U-U
15:53 <Monkey_arma> just about
15:53 <Monkey_arma> u?
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15:54 <epsy> heh
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15:54 <epsy> wrtlprnft, wrtlprnft_opera: here?
15:54 <hoax> wireless status
15:54 <hoax> fail
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15:59 <Monkey_arma> some of you gonna try my new super mega ultra  fort server in a bit?
16:00 <Monkey_arma> haox and flex already tried it..
16:00 <guru3> what's super mega ultra about it?
16:00 <hoax> epic arena
16:01 <hoax> monkey monkey, your flogging a game in a channel that doesnt play it :p
16:01 <Monkey_arma> ye its the monster fort server
16:01 <Monkey_arma> monster aint the word even
16:01 <Monkey_arma> do i get a 100% from hoax ?
16:02  * hoax agrees
16:02  * hoax 100%
16:02 <hoax> ;)
16:02 <Monkey_arma> its reset but i will put it back up
16:02 <hoax> anyone i should #ls for monkey? :D
16:03 <Monkey_arma> you tell me..
16:03 <hoax> lol was gona joke that its probably reset
16:05 <epsy> #ls monkey
16:05 <armabot> epsy: timed out
16:05 <epsy> #ls -g Monkey@x
16:06 <armabot> epsy: timed out
16:06 <epsy> #help lastseen
16:06 <armabot> epsy: (lastseen <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/lastseen.php?player=@1+@2+@3+@4+@5+@6+@7+@8+@9".
16:07 <epsy> armabot musqt be laggying, it appears in less than one second in my browser
16:07 <epsy> #ls -g Monkey@x
16:07 <armabot> epsy: timed out
16:07 <Monkey_arma> epsy.....
16:07 <Monkey_arma> #lastseen monkey
16:07 <armabot> Monkey_arma: Monkey.D.Luffy has last been seen on  Wild West  =Capture The Flag= 14 minutes ago.
16:07 <Monkey_arma> less lazyness more typing
16:07 <epsy> #help ls
16:07 <armabot> epsy: (ls <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "lastseen @*".
16:08 <Monkey_arma> #lastseen -g monkey@x
16:08 <armabot> Monkey_arma: Monkey has last been seen on WILDCAT 27 minutes ago.
16:08 <epsy> #lastseen
16:08 <armabot> epsy: Usage: #lastseen [-f] <nick> -OR- #lastseen -g <nick>@<authority>
16:08 <epsy> #lastseen
16:08 <armabot> epsy: Usage: #lastseen [-f] <nick> -OR- #lastseen -g <nick>@<authority>
16:09 <epsy> hm..
16:10 <madmax> #alias add ls lastseen
16:10 <armabot> madmax: The operation succeeded.
16:11 <madmax> #ls monkey
16:11 <armabot> madmax: Monkey.D.Luffy has last been seen on  Wild West  =Capture The Flag= 17 minutes ago.
16:11 <madmax> #ls -f monkey
16:11 <armabot> madmax: Monkey has last been seen on WILDCAT 30 minutes ago.
16:11 <madmax> you can now be lazy
16:11 <hoax> thx madmax :D
16:11 <hoax> #ls madmax
16:12 <armabot> hoax: timed out
16:12 <hoax> boo
16:13 <Monkey_arma> #lastseen madmax
16:13 <armabot> Monkey_arma: timed out
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16:15 <Monkey_arma> yo K-Yo
16:16 <Monkey_arma> ok fortress "epic arena" will be up in about 10 mins...be afraid
16:16 <epsy> #PING
16:16 <armabot> pong
16:16 <Monkey_arma> #FIX EPSY'S CAPS LOCK PLEASE
16:17 <epsy> was editing config files when i got that lag
16:17 <epsy> arma config files
16:17  * Genki slaps spidey
16:18 <K-Yo> yo Monkey_arma
16:21 <hoax> #x
16:21 <armabot> hoax: ¦×¦.Team.Sumo.Server: Players (9/16): :), <<WiR>>Sun, <T¤$afari$Kater, CT_emphasis (emphasis@crazy-tronners.com), CT¤Tadd (Tadd@crazy-tronners.com), dr.fux, punk_boy, Slade, ~*$P*~<y<lo
16:22 <epsy> add to this epsy on console :D
16:35  * spidey slaps Genki 
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16:52 <spidey> #ping
16:52 <armabot> pong
16:52 <Monkey_arma> ok everyone the fortress "epic arena" is now up...come and have some fun for a shrot while
16:53 <Monkey_arma> brand new fort
16:53 <Monkey_arma> :)
16:53 <Monkey_arma> its not fun for too long tho
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17:13 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: whats epic about it
17:14 <StickyNoob> #serverinfo epic
17:14 <armabot> StickyNoob: Monkey's Epic Arena: Players (8/16): madmax, Monkey (Monkey@x), noob13 (noob13@forums), noob7 (noob7@x), Rayzel, Rix, SpEeD, |STF| Legend
17:17 <hoax> hah
17:17 <Monkey_arma> come and seee
17:17 <Monkey_arma> its rammed
17:17 <Monkey_arma> ;)
17:17 <hoax> damn i shoulda copywrited epic arena ;)
17:17 <hoax> or trademarked w/e
17:18 <hoax> #epsy
17:18 <armabot> hoax: ¦×¦epsy has last been seen on Monkey's Epic Arena 19 minutes ago.
17:18 <hoax> lol!
17:19 <epsy> dont come it sucks
17:19 <Monkey_arma> #slap epsy
17:19 <armabot> Monkey_arma slaps epsy for being a raving moron.
17:21 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: cant im at work
17:21 <StickyNoob> so how is it any different?
17:21 <Monkey_arma> its got 200 rubber
17:21 <StickyNoob> oh that sucks
17:21 <Monkey_arma> and brake sends you to hyperdrive
17:21 <Monkey_arma> you need 200 to live
17:21 <Monkey_arma> trust me
17:22 <Monkey_arma> its huge and fast
17:22 <StickyNoob> accelo brake is quite funny
17:22 <Monkey_arma> -2500 is ye
17:22 <StickyNoob> regular fort settings with a smal accelobrake would be quite interesting
17:22 <hoax> monkey do i get royalties? :D
17:25 <Monkey_arma> 1 p
17:27 <Monkey_arma> well its better than epsys blog anyway
17:31 <epsy> ...NOT!
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17:32 <hoax> £1.87 per month for server name royalties kkthxbai
17:33 <hoax> certainly feel weird after that server thats for sure
17:33 <luke-jr> lol
17:33 <hoax> yeahhhh
17:33 <Monkey_arma> yes it makes you feel kind of fecked up
17:33 <hoax> luke-jr knows where there money to be made
17:33 <luke-jr> hoax: pretty sure trademarks are automatic
17:33 <luke-jr> but
17:33 <luke-jr> you do need to defend it ;)(
17:34 <Monkey_arma> hoax, -1.87 for electricity
17:34 <hoax> haha, ok ;P
17:34 <hoax> monkey take it up with my lawyer mate
17:34 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: how is hoax responsible for your electricity? :þ
17:34 <hoax> pwnt
17:34 <Monkey_arma> what do you pay him hoax , 1.87 a month? he must be some lawyer..
17:35 <hoax> just owned you didnt he
17:35 <hoax> plus why would i pay him exactly what i earn? :p
17:35 <Monkey_arma> hoax is responsible for charges i have put on use of the server...to cover running costs
17:35 <luke-jr> hoax: u pay me 1.87 once
17:35 <luke-jr> hoax: he pays you 1.87 / mo
17:36 <Monkey_arma> luke-jr, is just jealous because everyone knows his servers are crap
17:36 <Monkey_arma> fact
17:36 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: hoax only gave you permission to use the name, not hired you to run it ☺
17:36 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: my servers pwn most ☺
17:36 <epsy> esp. in australia!
17:37 <Monkey_arma> im charging hoax for playing on it
17:37 <hoax> too late xD
17:38 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: oooh
17:38 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: you're screwed
17:38 <luke-jr> err
17:38 <luke-jr> hoax: you're screwed
17:38 <hoax> wtf how
17:38 <luke-jr> hoax: he charges to play on it
17:38 <luke-jr> and u played on it
17:38 <hoax> nowhere did it say anything about cost to play on the server
17:39 <luke-jr> if it costs him something to run it, it's perfectly reasonable for him to charge to play on it ;)
17:39 <Monkey_arma> nowhere did it say anything about royalties
17:39 <epsy> nowhere did it say hoax would play on his server
17:39 <hoax> lmao
17:39 <luke-jr> epsy: pretty sure he already did
17:39 <luke-jr> tho I guess hoax could not play there again and cut his costs
17:39 <hoax> when i went to play on it, theres was nothing about cost
17:40 <hoax> so GL trying to charge me for previous times ive been there
17:40 <Monkey_arma> hoax, you cant prove that you actually came up with the name
17:40 <Monkey_arma> so GL trying to get royalties
17:40 <hoax> 7 since i came up with the name i could easily claim for that :D
17:40 <hoax> BUT
17:40 <Monkey_arma> and you have proof that you came up with it? no
17:40 <epsy> *T
17:41 <hoax> i like to help out those less fortunate...so look at it as kind of a donation
17:41 <hoax> erm
17:41 <hoax> server logs
17:41 <hoax> irc log
17:41 <hoax> :D
17:42 <Monkey_arma> well you just used the name but you never actually came up with it
17:42 <Monkey_arma> i told you the name earlier
17:42 <Monkey_arma> ...
17:42 <Monkey_arma> prove otherwise
17:43 <hoax> bollocks
17:43 <hoax> you said huge fortress or smth
17:44 <hoax> & i said nah epic arena
17:44 <hoax> lol
17:44 <epsy> jesus why are you arguing
17:44 <Monkey_arma> epsy with a blog like that id stfu
17:44 <hoax> not argueing ;)
17:44 <epsy> you're argueing for nothing
17:44 <hoax> lol monk
17:44 <epsy> that's worse then flex!
17:44 <Monkey_arma> we're only messing around
17:44 <hoax> well im not argueing idk if monkey thinks that we are
17:44 <hoax> exactly
17:44 <Monkey_arma> the server is only a joke anyway
17:44 <epsy> Monkey_arma, with a server like that..
17:44 <hoax> just like its creator xDDD
17:45 <Monkey_arma> its not even playable
17:45 <Monkey_arma> lol
17:45 <hoax> fuck that
17:45 <hoax> its pwns
17:45 <hoax> f0 real
17:45 <Monkey_arma> thx it does pwn for about 2 mins
17:45 <Monkey_arma> then it stops pwning
17:45 <epsy> go fff
17:45 <Monkey_arma> #arma.fff?
17:45 <epsy> see if it's better hoax
17:46 <hoax> whats this?
17:46 <hoax> #epsy
17:46 <armabot> hoax: ¦×¦epsy has last been seen on Monkey's Epic Arena 47 minutes ago.
17:46 <hoax> #si fff
17:46 <Monkey_arma> aha we have caught him out
17:46 <epsy> why the fuck..
17:46 <armabot> hoax: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “fff” at the moment, sorry.
17:46 <luke-jr> hoax: being billed for past services is not abnormal
17:46 <epsy> #alias del epsy
17:46 <hoax> not if the consumer isnt made aware or potential charges
17:46 <epsy> hoax, i was talking about you going to fuck fo fo
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17:47 <luke-jr> #epsy
17:47 <armabot> luke-jr: ¦×¦epsy has last been seen on Monkey's Epic Arena 48 minutes ago.
17:47 <hoax> haha
17:47 <epsy> #alias del epsy
17:47 <hoax> lol epsy im supposed to get that from 'fff' :/
17:47 <luke-jr> #alias del epsy
17:47 <Monkey_arma> armabot: epsy operation failed
17:47 <armabot> no
17:47 <epsy> hoax, of course
17:47 <armabot> Monkey_arma: ¦×¦epsy has last been seen on Monkey's Epic Arena 48 minutes ago.
17:47 <hoax> no server compares to fff ;)
17:48 <luke-jr> yeah, fff is teh ultimate in suxiness
17:48 <hoax> ohhh yeah
17:48 <luke-jr> #alias del epsy
17:48 <epsy> #alias remove epsy
17:48 <armabot> no
17:48 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
17:48 <hoax> u think luke-jr? its sucks hard?
17:48 <epsy> howhard?
17:49 <Monkey_arma> why did armabot just address me? i didnt ask him anything about epsy...
17:49 <epsy> <Monkey_arma> armabot: epsy operation failed
17:49 <luke-jr> [10:53:34] <Monkey_arma> armabot: epsy operation failed
17:50 <Monkey_arma> its not my server anyway its the noobs server
17:50 <Monkey_arma> i just gave the crazy config
17:50 <luke-jr> lol
17:50 <hoax> #luke-jr
17:50 <armabot> hoax: Jesus Christ has last been seen on SPACEZONE I [HIGH SPEED!!] 2 hours 23 minutes ago.
17:50 <Monkey_arma> hah
17:50 <luke-jr> #rating luke-jr
17:51 <armabot> luke-jr: timed out
17:51 <luke-jr> :O
17:51 <hoax> haha
17:51 <Monkey_arma> lol
17:51 <Monkey_arma> armabot cant count that high
17:51 <hoax> LOL
17:52 <hoax> #Hoax
17:52 <armabot> hoax: God has last been seen on Nexus9 (NO RUBBER!) 1 hour 2 minutes ago.
17:52 <hoax> 8)
17:54 <luke-jr> #help hoax
17:54 <armabot> luke-jr: Error: There is no command "hoax".
17:54 <luke-jr> #help Hoax
17:54 <armabot> luke-jr: Error: There is no command "hoax".
17:54 <luke-jr> f u
17:54 <hoax> pwnd
17:54 <luke-jr> retard
17:54 <luke-jr> it's spelt pwnt
17:54 <hoax> lmao
17:54 <hoax> pwnd looked good on you
17:54 <luke-jr> #hoax
17:55  * hoax lol'd
17:55 <luke-jr> #alias add stalk "echo [lastseen $1] | [rating $1] | [last --from $1]"
17:55 <armabot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
17:55 <luke-jr> #stalk hoax
17:56 <armabot> ¦×¦ Hoax has last been seen on Monkey's Epic Arena 24 minutes ago. | timed out | * hoax lol'd
17:56 <hoax> lol
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17:56 <Monkey_arma> fleeeeeeeeeeeex
17:56 <StickyNoob> #stalk luke-jr
17:56 <Flex> monkeh
17:56  * spidey notes playing freeciv with luke-jr is bad
17:56 <armabot> timed out | timed out | #stalk hoax
17:57 <StickyNoob> oh god i did that once, lost a whole day
17:57 <spidey> more like he drifted off into something else
17:57 <hoax> LOL StickyNoob
17:57 <StickyNoob> mind you loosing only a single day of your life to freeciv is good going
17:58 <Flex> Monkey_arma, i have a picture of both of us ;)
17:58 <Flex> http://30gms.com/images/uploads/monkeh2.jpg
17:58 <Monkey_arma> heh
17:59 <Flex> even though that guy is a looser..
17:59 <hoax> jonney vegas! never
17:59 <Flex> he's a fucking tramp
17:59 <hoax> i dont find him funny
17:59 <Flex> annoying and a looser
17:59 <hoax> hes lost bare weight now
17:59 <Monkey_arma> hes not funny
18:00 <Monkey_arma> the monkey is quite funny tho
18:00 <Flex> without the monkeh he's nothing!
18:00 <hoax> theyre a duo
18:00 <hoax> monkeys nothin without vegas
18:00 <Monkey_arma> wtf u sayin?
18:00 <Flex> he has nice man boobs though
18:01 <hoax> im nearly outta pg tips i gotta be a slave to marketing & get a monkeh :D
18:01 <Flex> just admit it.. you want to touch his manboobas
18:01 <Monkey_arma> no joke right but ive got 2 boxes of pg tips tight next to me
18:01 <hoax> what size?
18:02 <Monkey_arma> 240 per box
18:02 <hoax> lmfao :/
18:02 <hoax> nice
18:02 <Monkey_arma> i said no joke
18:02 <hoax> used to be able to get em cheap wed have massive boxes all the time
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18:13 <fonkay> so whats everyone sayin' today?
18:15 <Lucifer> beats me
18:15 <Lucifer> looks like the first day was too long ;)
18:15 <fonkay> indeed
18:16 <fonkay> we had 5 man vote, then (after the semi-official cutoff time) everyone changed their minds
18:17 <fonkay> My question is, what happens if we don't have a majority vote by 2300GMT tonight?
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18:26 <Lucifer> I suspect the plurality is good enough to doom maz
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18:27 <fonkay> he did say absolute majority though..
18:27 <fonkay> oh..
18:34 <Monkey_arma> StickyNoob, we are playing a fort match ;) run from work you  got 1 minute :)
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18:42 <noob7> hey worm
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19:33  * Genki slaps spidey
19:33 <Genki> sup 7
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19:36 <noob7> heya genki :)
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19:47 <Worm> hi
20:02  * spidey slaps Worm and runs off to bed
20:03  * Worm slaps spidey while he's in bed
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21:00 <fonkay> it's so nice out I feel crappy being in the house all day
21:01 <noob7> open a window
21:01 <noob7> :P
21:02 <Monkey_arma> move to the UK..its so shit outside you wont feel bad about it
21:03 <fonkay> it 20/70 here, so sunny and nice. Windows are all open, but still... such guilt.
21:04 <Monkey_arma> pfff its aboutt 9 here ..at least it was last time i wennt out
21:04 <Monkey_arma> and its always windy and usually raining
21:05 <fonkay> I'm bbqin' now.. that's the closest I've been to doing something out of the house today.
21:06 <Monkey_arma> how long does that crazy werewolf game go on for?
21:07 <hoax> speak 4 urself monkey its been nice today
21:08 <Monkey_arma> whats been nice?
21:08 <hoax> looked abit sunny
21:08 <hoax> lol
21:09 <Monkey_arma> oh itts hoax ..i thought that was fonkay ..this damn xchat is supposed to put you in different colours but it dont seem to be doing a good job
21:09 <Monkey_arma> i aint been out today
21:09 <hoax> works aight for me
21:09 <Monkey_arma> and i dont need to remind u we had snow in april
21:09 <hoax> what colour am i to you?
21:10 <Monkey_arma> it works for you because u r special
21:10 <hoax> ya :/
21:10 <Monkey_arma> you are green
21:10 <Monkey_arma> fonkay is green
21:10 <hoax> heh
21:10 <hoax> im orange on mine lmfao
21:10 <noob7> to me its all black and white unless someone mentions my name
21:10 <Monkey_arma> in the noob channel they are 3 purples
21:10 <noob7> :o
21:10 <Monkey_arma> noob7 noob7
21:10 <noob7> 1st rule... dont TALK about the noob channel :(
21:10 <Monkey_arma> oO
21:11 <hoax> oohhhh
21:11 <Monkey_arma> not your chanel
21:11 <hoax> noob channel
21:11 <Monkey_arma> i mean another one
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21:12 <hoax> speaking of noobs :D
21:12 <Monkey_arma> how is durka?
21:13 <Monkey_arma> pick on the CTer hoax nice
21:13 <hoax> #dorka
21:14 <armabot> hoax: Durka has last been seen on Nexus9 (NO RUBBER!) 14 hours 31 minutes ago.
21:14 <hoax> tut tut, look past the tag monkey
21:14 <ct|kyle> #slap hoax
21:14 <armabot> ct|kyle slaps hoax for being a raving moron.
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21:14 <hoax> :D
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21:14 <Monkey_arma> hoax you dont need to slap him, you did that in the ladle
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21:15 <Monkey_arma> :0
21:16 <hoax> lol
21:16 <hoax> kyle didnt play n00b
21:18 <Monkey_arma> he was there in spirit
21:20 <Monkey_arma> i wish we could actually organise some decent matches
21:25 <fonkay> you're all crazy
21:28 <Monkey_arma> yes
21:28  * ct|kyle is crazy tronner
21:30 <Flex> Maury, I am out of control. Yeah, I use drugs. I can do what I waunt, biatch! Yeah, I have sex, and I don't use protection! It's my hot body; I'll do what I waunt! I don't go to school and I kill people! What-evah! I'll do what I waunt!
21:30 <hoax> orly
21:31 <madmax> oO
21:31 <Flex> K_E
21:32 <Monkey_arma> you see Flex there...he's beyond help
21:33 <hoax> Monkey_arma
21:33 <hoax> still awake?
21:33 <hoax> oh
21:33 <hoax> obviously
21:36 <Monkey_arma> ye  duh
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21:38 <hoax> fuck that u mustve slept some
21:38 <Monkey_arma> nope
21:38 <Monkey_arma> i will soon tho
21:38 <Monkey_arma> before i go totally mad
21:40 <hoax> aye ;)
21:41 <Monkey_arma> have u ?
21:42 <Monkey_arma> is badzilla back in x?
21:43 <hoax> no
21:43 <hoax> & w/e
21:43 <Monkey_arma> oO
21:43 <Monkey_arma> #tea
21:43 <armabot> Monkey_arma: Fortress Café: Players (5/32): /dev/null/h4ck, hiqa, |x| Badzilla, ~DaWg~, ~|DS-T|~GG
21:44 <Monkey_arma> cafe? anyone?
21:44 <hoax> #x
21:44 <armabot> hoax: ¦×¦.Team.Sumo.Server: Players (4/16): -=Lo||, G0lD M0uSe|MS|, Uzumaki, womble
22:05 <pippijn> torres: << typeid (int()).name()
22:05 <torres> FivE
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23:59 <epsy> #aka epsy

Log from 2008-04-17:
--- Day changed Thu Apr 17 2008
00:00 <epsy> #aka ¦×¦epsy
00:00 <armabot> epsy: timed out
00:00 <armabot> epsy: timed out
00:00 <epsy> #aka 0:epsy@x
00:01 <armabot> epsy: timed out
00:01 <epsy> wow
00:01 <epsy> anyway gn
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00:02 <fonkay> so is time up?
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00:05 <z-man> no. 45 minutes left.
00:06 <guru3> i thought you said 23:00 gmt
00:06 <fonkay> me too
00:06 <madmax> 23:00 is in 45
00:06 <guru3> Thu Apr 17 00:12:49 CEST 2008
00:07 <guru3> do you mean to say you're using actual gmt
00:07 <guru3> and not summer time adjusted gmt?
00:07 <fonkay> oh yes, forgot about dst
00:09 <fonkay> 23:00 was 14 mins ago in my head.
00:09 <guru3> same here
00:09  * guru3 suggest z-man callibrate to BST
00:09 <guru3> instead of GMT
00:10 <z-man> Isn't DST staring on different days in different regions?
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00:10 <guru3> yes
00:10 <guru3> but it's started everywhere by now
00:10 <z-man> Except on the southern hemisphere :)
00:11 <guru3> is anyone from there playing?
00:11 <z-man> no.
00:11 <guru3> well then
00:12 <madmax> make a countdown through armabot :-P
00:14 <z-man> Or display the official forum time on the forum somewhere :)
00:14  * worm slaps spidey
00:14 <z-man> shut up, worm
00:14 <worm> :x
00:14 <worm> he started it
00:14 <madmax> indeed, could be useful not only for this
00:16 <guru3> oh noes
00:16 <guru3> jonathan gets the axes
00:17 <madmax> btw, is the forum missing an image at the top of the pages or is it just me?
00:17 <guru3> just you
00:18 <fonkay> so you ready to admit your worminess yet?
00:18 <guru3> ?
00:18 <fonkay> yea you...
00:18 <guru3> i'm not a worm
00:18 <guru3> wish i was :<
00:19 <fonkay> that's what a worm would say
00:19 <guru3> it'd be loads more fun
00:19 <worm> no way!
00:19 <fonkay> sthu
00:19 <worm> then 7th graders would be cuttin ya open to study you
00:19 <guru3> did lack vote for someone before voting for jon?
00:19 <ct|kyle> guru3: please @ct authentication :D
00:19 <fonkay> no
00:20 <madmax> doh. my adblock list for opera was blocking the image :<
00:21 <guru3> fie
00:22 <fonkay> fo
00:23 <fonkay> if we decide to play this a second time, I hope we get more people to play.
00:24 <guru3> it would be better with more people
00:24 <guru3> seems like everyone is on at the same time
00:24 <z-man> Yeah, consider this a test run to get the feel for things.
00:25 <fonkay> maybe if we have more people we'll get info after lynchings...
00:25  * guru3 feels bad for jonathan getting lynched
00:26 <fonkay> see, that's not good..
00:26 <fonkay> that's the wrong attitude all together.
00:26 <guru3> well he hasn't done anything to make me suspicious of him
00:26 <guru3> unless not being suspicious is suspicious in and of itself
00:26 <fonkay> oh for sure, i'm sticking with maz...
00:26 <fonkay> well, sometimes that is.
00:27 <guru3> his comment was no more arbitrary than wrtlpwned's opening one
00:27 <fonkay> even though maz is not suspicious himself.
00:27 <guru3> *no less even
00:27 <guru3> but jonathan seems to have a bit of a 'que sera sera' attitude
00:27 <guru3> "i'm innocent and i can't prove it so i'll shut up. if you kill me you've only screwed yourselves"
00:27 <fonkay> the people defending maz is what's suspicious.. no one seems to care if jon goes.. (except you)
00:28 <guru3> because jon hasn't defined himself as a personality
00:28 <fonkay> and him i suppose
00:28 <guru3> so far he's really only a name
00:29 <guru3> on noes
00:30 <guru3> jonathan has changed his vote from maz
00:30 <guru3> it's only you and me now
00:30 <fonkay> why on earth would he do that?
00:30 <guru3> he explains it
00:30 <guru3> That first vote might have been an attempt to get the mob after me initially. wrtlprnft knows it's unlikely that I'm a worm and probably shouldn't eliminate me because I might be dangerous as a worm. And if he is a worm he knows I'm not a worm.
00:30 <guru3> Mobbing is what we live on, because it counters the directed votes from worms with a better chance of randomness (not that random is good, but it's the best we have at this point, ignoring the social aspect that I horribly fail at).
00:31 <guru3> this requires so mch paying attention and remember
00:31 <guru3> to keep the current tally -_-
00:32 <fonkay> yes... but taking away his vote for maz means, that even if luci or wrtl changed back to maz at the last second, jon still goes.
00:32 <guru3> z-man: start a new thread for day 2 please
00:32 <z-man> why?
00:32 <guru3> it's rather difficult to go back to previous pages
00:32 <guru3> and to keep track of votes for a day long period
00:32 <guru3> should be easier if they're all in one place
00:32 <fonkay> maybe twg should get it's own subforum...
00:33 <guru3> i'm considering it already
00:33 <z-man> Just open the whole thread in a separate window, every page in a tab.
00:33 <z-man> Don't tell me you're using IE6 :)
00:33 <guru3> that doesn't make it easier to count votes
00:33 <z-man> Ah, keep a spreadsheet
00:33  * guru3 has been doing it on memory
00:33 <z-man> a 9x9 matrix where you mark current votes and cross out old votes.
00:33  * fonkay has be writing it on paper.
00:33 <z-man> That's what I tend to do.
00:33 <guru3> why do i feel stupid now
00:34 <z-man> yep. Paper is best.
00:34 <Flex> can i ask why are you guys playing this game?
00:34 <guru3> it was z-man's idea
00:34 <fonkay> no
00:34 <guru3> all hail z-man
00:34 <Flex> why not just turn tron on and join a server all together..
00:34 <Flex> i said guys
00:34 <fonkay> because i don't play tron
00:34 <Flex> ;)
00:34 <z-man> More paranoia and scheming if it goes over several days.
00:34 <guru3> i'm not even sure if we're schemeing
00:34 <guru3> only the worms could be really
00:35 <guru3> and so far it looks like they're acting independently
00:35 <fonkay> maybe we should take over the afl channel or something for this... so we don't get outsiders commenting.
00:35 <Flex> lol outsiders
00:35 <ct|kyle> outsiders where?
00:35 <z-man> yep, a new channel would be best.
00:35 <guru3> #themainframe
00:36 <Flex> nobody is scaring you're pretty game away, i was only asking
00:36 <z-man> or #armagetron-twg
00:36 <Flex> your^
00:36 <z-man> noob7 was making inapproprate game influencing comments yesterday.
00:36 <guru3> #armagetron-twg is boring :<
00:36 <Flex> z-man #arma.twg
00:37 <fonkay> and "worm" today
00:37 <guru3> #armatwgetron
00:37 <z-man> lol
00:37 <fonkay> nice
00:37 <Flex> #guru3usesie5
00:37 <guru3> ...
00:37 <Flex> or 6
00:37 <fonkay> i repeat... we need a channel
00:37 <guru3> yeah, sort of
00:38 <fonkay> or I could just start muting everyone who annoys me.. that works too.
00:38 <z-man> #armatwgtron gets my vote
00:38 <fonkay> mine too
00:38 <madmax> don't forget the 'e'
00:38 <guru3> yeah
00:38 <guru3> we need a channel key
00:38 <guru3> to keep out non-players
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00:41 <z-man> arg, guru3 set a key
00:42 <fonkay> yes
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00:55 <luke-jr> man, 2 of the worms are just so obvious
00:55  * luke-jr stfu ☺
01:24 <Monkey_arma> hey you shouldnt keep out non-players..dont you want others to see the game and then  play in the next one? you fools...
01:24 <Monkey_arma> just kick people who say "too much"
01:25 <Monkey_arma> er like guru did to me ...er....
01:25 <Monkey_arma> :|
01:26 <Monkey_arma> no it was not for ruining the game....
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01:27 <madmax> or you can +m the channel and +v the ones who are playing
01:27 <Your_mom_arma> hmm?
01:27 <fonkay> good timing mom :P
01:27 <Monkey_arma> i guess that means allow voice to players but mute non-players?
01:28 <Your_mom_arma> what I miss?
01:28 <Monkey_arma> lots .......youve been lynched
01:28 <Monkey_arma> j/k
01:28 <fonkay> the cycle end for one.
01:29 <madmax> Your_mom_arma: suggestions about creating a channel for the game
01:29 <madmax> yes Monkey_arma
01:29 <Monkey_arma> ... :)
01:29 <Your_mom_arma> oh
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01:37 <Your_mom_arma> hmm?
01:37 <Lucifer_pen> yay, now there's 3 of me here
01:38 <fonkay> yay?
01:40 <Lackadaisical> i shouldve changed my vote for tank so we'd have a three way tie :(
01:41 <Your_mom_arma> and then leave it to chance?
01:41 <fonkay> or a tiebreaker.
01:41 <Lackadaisical> no everyone needs to vote again
01:41 <Your_mom_arma> tiebreakers are decided randomly I thought
01:42 <Lackadaisical> but only for one of those three people
01:42 <Lackadaisical> wouldve been interesting
01:47 <z-man> ties are broken randomly only in certain situations.
01:47 <z-man> For example, if the number of players is even, and half of them wants to lynch A, the other B.
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01:48 <Lucifer_pen> we should be lynching wrtpwned
01:49 <z-man> Well, you need to wait for the new "day".
01:49 <fonkay> no killing yet?
01:50 <z-man> Someone has been ignoring his PMs so far.
01:51 <fonkay> booo
01:54  * z-man is about to go to bed, not much time left.
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02:13 <Durka> Lucifer I know it's you!!!
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02:18 <z-man> New day has started, guru3 is dead.
02:19 <Durka> z-man HOW COULD YOU!!! :(
02:19 <z-man> It wasn't me, it was the worms :/
02:20 <Durka> z-man: don't give away my identity :(
02:20 <z-man> hmm?
02:20 <Durka> jk :P
02:21 <Your_mom_arma> he's saying he's a worm
02:21 <z-man> anyway, bedtime. happy lynching.
02:22 <Durka> z-man: one quick question!1
02:22 <Durka> does this mean that every cycle 2 people are gone?
02:23 <Your_mom_arma> no, the firewall can save the nightkill
02:24 <Lackadaisical> and the vigilante can kill an extra one, or is there no vigilante in this game?
02:24 <Your_mom_arma> the vigilante kill replaces the lynching
02:25 <Your_mom_arma> I think
02:25 <fonkay> yes
02:25 <Lackadaisical> mmm ok
02:25 <fonkay> but the "kill" program can only kill one person in the whole game.
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02:32 <pippijn> z-man: you there?
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02:40 <pippijn> :-|
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02:44 <pippijn> z-man-work: you there?
02:44 <pippijn> hm, doesn't seem to be
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04:57 <luke-jr> z-man-work: awesome narration btw
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05:23 <luke-jr> http://documents.iss.net/whitepapers/IBM_X-Force_WP_final.pdf
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08:19 <Lucifer> I'm willing to bet now that the two worms are your_mom and lackadaisical
08:22 <wrtlprnft> you change your opinion quite often
08:26 <Lucifer> yeah
08:26 <Lucifer> well, see, I made this spreadsheet
08:26 <Lucifer> you want it?
08:26 <Lucifer> it tracks vote changes, and keeps a current tally
08:26 <wrtlprnft> sure
08:26 <Lucifer> and makes it easy to check arbitrary time periods
08:26  * Lucifer wonders briefly if he can still do ctcp
08:27 <wrtlprnft> argh, better don't try
08:27 <Lucifer> awww
08:27 <Lucifer> I'll pm it to you on the forums, then
08:28 <wrtlprnft> nvm, i got it
08:28 <wrtlprnft> wow
08:28 <wrtlprnft> that's the first time that worked
08:29 <wrtlprnft> now, where did irssi save it? :o
08:30 <epsy> ~ ?
08:30 <Lucifer> epsy drinks coke, he doesn't like pepsi
08:30 <epsy> :)
08:30 <Lucifer> he's got narcolepsy
08:30 <epsy> :(
08:31 <Lucifer> I'm out of words that rhyme with epsy
08:32 <epsy> alright, cya
08:32 <epsy> have a good day
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08:32 <Lucifer> I found a worm!  It's in epsy's quit message!
08:33 <wrtlprnft> lych it!
08:33 <wrtlprnft> and my avatar, too, it got infected
08:35 <Lucifer> so yeah, right before lackadaisical spoke up, maz had 6 votes
08:35 <Lucifer> if maz and lack are both worms, then lack's post makes perfect sense
08:35 <Lucifer> does it make sense also if lack and maz are not worms?
08:36 <Lucifer> lack's post is clear in the spreadsheet because you changed your vote right after it
08:37 <Lucifer> it doesn't make sense for you and durka to be both worms if you're not voting together, to some extent
08:37 <Lucifer> could be a misdirection effort, though.  voting separately and somewhat disagreeing with each other could draw attention from you guys
08:39 <wrtlprnft> could be anything
08:39 <wrtlprnft> the same as your actions
08:39 <Lucifer> :)
08:40 <Lucifer> well, right now we're united against lack.  If I'm a worm, then I'm either taking a gamble with my worm friend's life, or lack isn't a worm.
08:40 <Lucifer> and with that, I think I should shut up, since we just wind up in circles.  Better to wait for lack's response to this attack
08:42 <wrtlprnft> yeah
08:42 <Lucifer> but yeah, you're right, if we hang the wrong person tonight, even the firewall can't save us
08:43 <wrtlprnft> if there's three worms
08:43 <Lucifer> right
08:43 <wrtlprnft> might be just two
08:43 <Lucifer> if there's two, we have one more night exactly, and then we have to hang the right person *and* have the firewall save us
08:44 <wrtlprnft> x_X
08:48 <wrtlprnft> on the bright side, if there were just two worms and we killed the right one by pure luck the remaining one is pretty much doomed
09:05 <guru3> so i'm hearing that i died then? :<
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09:13 <wrtlprnft> R.I.P
09:13 <guru3> the irony is killing me
09:14 <guru3> when this game is over
09:14 <guru3> someone better explain why i died
09:15 <wrtlprnft> ask the wolves
09:15 <guru3> i will when the game is over
09:15 <guru3> in the meantime i will just be bitter
09:16 <wrtlprnft> be happy you escaped the madness.
09:16 <guru3> i wanted to keep on playing though :<
09:19 <guru3> and we just hit 0x666 views on TWG thread
09:20 <Flex> haha
09:20 <Flex> rip :(
09:21 <guru3> thnx
09:29 <wrtlprnft> TWG is probably the longest thread that stayed on topic in the history of these forums
09:29 <guru3> there was once one about barbacuing a whale
09:29 <guru3> i think
09:30 <z-man> Nah, the authentication thread from hell was longer.
09:30 <wrtlprnft> well, just one day has passed
09:30 <wrtlprnft> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=3288
09:31 <wrtlprnft> that one's quite promising
09:31 <wrtlprnft> by the way, page number 13 isn't very hexadecimal
09:31 <guru3> i'm not rewriting all of phpbb to use hex
09:32 <wrtlprnft> x_X
09:32 <guru3> i just changed some of the commonly used outputs
09:32 <wrtlprnft> run the generated html through a program that takes anything that looks decimal and turns it into a hex number ;-P
09:33 <wrtlprnft> including numbers in posts
09:33 <guru3> that sounds like work :o
09:33 <wrtlprnft> today's the 0x11.0x4.0x7d
09:34 <wrtlprnft> *0x11.0x4.0x7d8
09:35 <Flex> urm.. i've lost my menu on xchat.. :((
09:35 <Flex> how do i bring it back!!
09:37 <guru3> voodoo magicz
09:41 <Flex> oh found it
09:42 <guru3> the chicken you need to behead?
09:42 <Flex> it was /GUI MENU SHOW
09:43 <guru3> well i'm off to school now
09:43 <Flex> gn
09:43 <Flex> :D
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12:59 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer: err, how do i join #armatwgetron?
12:59  * z-man-work would like to know that, too.
13:00 <z-man-work> fonkay: ?
13:00 <z-man-work> guru3: ?
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13:23 <fonkay> fonkay
13:27 <wrtlprnft> z-man-work: my logs are made by my client
13:27 <z-man-work> ah.
13:28 <wrtlprnft> so from now on there will be logs. I'll publish them if you like
13:28 <z-man-work> Well, I'm leaning towards logs not counting as official evidence.
13:28 <z-man-work> The reason being that IRC logs are a pain to read in general.
13:30 <wrtlprnft> it's mostly for reading stuff you missed on if you really care I guess
13:33 <fonkay> people like lack
13:33 <z-man-work> Yeah, so go ahead, publish them.
13:53 <guru3> ah right
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14:06 <dsop> z-man-work: did you get the patch?
14:06 <z-man-work> Dunno, I just changed the line myself.
14:06 <pippijn> z-man-work: can you help me with a c++ issue?
14:06 <z-man-work> On 0.2.8.
14:07 <z-man-work> pippijn: I can try.
14:07 <pippijn> okay
14:09 <pippijn> I have a template class that holds a variable of one of N different types
14:09 <pippijn> like a union
14:09 <pippijn> but it knows at runtime what it currently holds and this may change
14:10 <pippijn> clear so far?
14:10 <z-man-work> Ah, yes, I know these things.
14:10 <pippijn> I implemented it with a type list
14:11 <pippijn> now I want to compare the value in this class to any other type
14:11 <pippijn> to make it easy, I want to compare it to a long signed int
14:11 <z-man-work> Ah.
14:11 <pippijn> in the type, I have (for example) long, const char*, double
14:11 <z-man-work> Integer conversion make this tricky, I'd guess.
14:12 <pippijn> I have a visitor class that does the comparison
14:12  * z-man-work fetches coffee, do go on
14:12 <pippijn> but using operator== will fail on const char*
14:13 <pippijn> it would be possible to provide one predicate for every possible type comparison
14:13 <pippijn> but I want to have one template function that does ==-comparison for supported types
14:14 <pippijn> I know how to achieve this, but it's a bit ugly.. I need a lot of helper templates for it
14:14 <pippijn> I use SFINAE for it
14:16 <z-man-work> Yeah, I guess that's your only option.
14:17 <pippijn> any ideas on how to implement a template is_one_of<T, T1, T2, T3, T4>?
14:17 <z-man-work> Taking a typelist of arbitrary length?
14:17 <pippijn> not necessarily
14:18 <pippijn> it would be nice but impossible with c++03
14:19 <z-man-work> Well, first, I'd define template<class T1, class T2> types_equal
14:19 <pippijn> I have that
14:19 <z-man-work> (using specialization)
14:19 <z-man-work> and then just OR them?
14:21 <pippijn> okay
14:21 <pippijn> that's how I would have done it
14:21 <pippijn> I thought.. maybe you have a cleaner solution
14:22 <z-man-work> You mean, one that uses more convoluted template tricks? :)
14:22 <pippijn> one that is less typing
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14:22 <z-man-work> Well, I'd use typelists and recursion, probably.
14:22 <pippijn> right
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14:39 <guru3> back to  uni :<
14:40 <hoax-> at least u got it cheap up there ;)
14:44 <epsy> noob7_away, noob13: nice score man! http://ds.experimentalworks.net/board/download/file.php?id=42
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15:30 <pippijn> z-man-work: how do I find out at compile time whether two types are equality-comparable?
15:30 <z-man-work> There's no way to do that, as far as I know.
15:31 <pippijn> hrm
15:31 <pippijn> that's shitty
15:31 <z-man-work> You can get close by testing whether one type converts to the other.
15:31 <pippijn>       template<typename Lhs>
15:31 <pippijn>       typename meta::type_if<void, meta::is_one_of<Lhs (std::string, const char *, char *)>::value
15:31 <pippijn>                                 && meta::is_same<Lhs, std::string>::value>::type
15:31 <pippijn> z-man-work: that's only for std::string, though :-\
15:31  * pippijn can't wait for c++0x concepts
15:31 <pippijn> so I can simply demand equality comparable
15:32 <pippijn> it would have been nice if all stdlib types that are equality comparable were derived from template<typename T> struct equality_comparable
15:32 <pippijn> or so
15:33 <z-man-work> Yea. I'd test for convertibility in both direction. If that's only possible in one direction, compare after actually converting one of the types.
15:34 <z-man-work> If conversion in both direction was possible, convert the smaller to the larger type.
15:34 <z-man-work> dunno what to do with signed int vs unsigned int, there's no good way to compare those.
15:34 <pippijn> they are convertible
15:36 <z-man-work> yes, but of equal size, and conversion loss can happen in both directions. So which way do you compare?
15:37 <pippijn> hmm
15:38 <z-man-work> Of course, you can write special code and transform them to the next bigger integer type :)
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15:41 <pippijn> torres: << cxa_demangle ("A6_c")
15:41 <torres> char [6]
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15:52 <pippijn> z-man-work: http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/txt/d528d60da5b1d450e8abdd8a4ca2e3ae.txt
15:55 <z-man-work> nice.
15:55 <pippijn> not really..
15:56 <pippijn> but it works
16:00 <pippijn> z-man-work: http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/txt/004d102afbde2fa61b782721146dc79f.txt <- more generic
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16:39 <wrtlprnft> z-man-work: Apr 17 15:31:39 FindCurrentFace() is running, so this message probably means there is a BUG: [0] SpEeD got 1 points for a sacrifice for the good of the team.
16:39 <z-man-work> version?
16:39 <wrtlprnft> Revision: 8406
16:40 <wrtlprnft> 0.2.8
16:40 <z-man-work> rats.
16:41 <wrtlprnft> sorry, still no recording available
16:41 <z-man-work> I thought r8397 fixed that bug.
16:41 <z-man-work> It may not be a bug at all, of course.
16:41 <wrtlprnft> yeah, just thought i'd tell you
16:42 <z-man-work> But the instance I obseved on bugfarm was me and some other guy driving peacefully in parallel, then I suddenly died.
16:42 <z-man-work> Was the resulting kill unusual?
16:42 <wrtlprnft> no clue
16:42 <wrtlprnft> i wasn't online
16:42 <z-man-work> (like, did aSpEeD complain)
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16:42 <wrtlprnft> noob13 was
16:42 <wrtlprnft> Apr 17 15:31:41 [1] SpEeD: ?
16:42 <wrtlprnft> no clue if that's a complaint
16:43 <wrtlprnft> but speed didn't die
16:43 <wrtlprnft> Apr 17 15:31:44 [0] SpEeD core dumped noob13 for 2 points.
16:43 <z-man-work> Ah right.
16:43 <z-man-work> Well, then there probably wasn't a real bug.
16:43 <wrtlprnft> actually it must be a bug
16:43 <wrtlprnft> there were only two players
16:43 <wrtlprnft> and it's fortress
16:44 <z-man-work> Oh
16:44 <wrtlprnft> and sorry for that, speed did die
16:44 <z-man-work> then he probably drove throug his own hole :)
16:44 <wrtlprnft> wtf?
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16:45 <z-man-work> Post mortem, of course.
16:45 <wrtlprnft> http://pastebin.ca/988365
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16:46 <z-man-work> That's a blank page?
16:46 <wrtlprnft> err, try again
16:46 <wrtlprnft> the pastebin is somewhat screwy right now
16:47 <z-man-work> Yeah, looks like SpEeD drove through his own hole.
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16:47 <z-man-work> I mean, what other point source could there be?
16:48 <wrtlprnft> ah, wait a second
16:48 <wrtlprnft> ladderlog :D
16:49 <wrtlprnft> SACRIFICE speed speed noob13
16:49 <wrtlprnft> there we go
16:49 <z-man-work> Yep.
16:50 <z-man-work> I'll add alive checks and self-holing checks.
16:51 <wrtlprnft> ok, thanks
16:54 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8409 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tron/gCycle.cpp: Fixed bug where a dead cylce would move passively through the hole created by its own explosion and award the hole score to its player.
16:55 <luke-jr> lol
17:00 <z-man-work> Well, we're committed to fix those odd once-in-a-lifetime bugs :)
17:01 <pippijn> z-man-work: how do I find the nearest conversion for a certain type to a set of other types?
17:01 <z-man-work> I don't think it's possible.
17:02 <z-man-work> The best I could come up with would be a two stage process:
17:02 <z-man-work> first, you look for an exact match.
17:02 <z-man-work> next, you look vor any conversion.
17:03 <pippijn> hm
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17:04 <pippijn> nearest_conversion<int (double, long, std::string)>::type
17:04 <pippijn> z-man-work: there is no exact match
17:04 <pippijn> but long is the best one
17:08 <z-man-work> C++ was not really designed with these N*M pairing things in mind.
17:08 <pippijn> I've got quite far already
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17:11 <pippijn> I'll just hack something up
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17:17 <pippijn> z-man-work: http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/txt/9c1c4a182fd93be7855ee467816a60cd.txt
17:17 <pippijn> SFINAE is great :-)
17:18 <wrtlprnft> best conversion: insert it into a stringstream and extract it again
17:20 <z-man-work> heh :)
17:21 <wrtlprnft> that's essentially what the cockpit system does to display any configuration value
17:21 <wrtlprnft> per frame :-(
17:27 <z-man-work> wha? really?
17:31 <wrtlprnft> couldn't find a better way without modifying the config system too much
17:41 <z-man-work> So it's my fault again? ;)
17:41 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: that's actually the worst conversion
17:42 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: and I do use it
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17:52 <wrtlprnft> z-man-work: dunno. there's just so many different config item classes
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18:50 <Flex> monkeh
18:51 <Monkey_arma> flexus
18:51 <Monkey_arma> guess what happended  today all
18:51 <Flex> you bought something you didn't want? :D
18:52 <Monkey_arma> someone send a birthday card to my address by mistake and it had ?10 in it !
18:52 <Monkey_arma> wahoo
18:52 <Flex> haha
18:54 <Lucifer> so you stole someone's birthday present?
18:55 <Monkey_arma> wrong
18:55 <Monkey_arma> i was given it by mistake by someone who cant get someone else's address correct
18:55 <Lucifer> had your name on it?
18:55 <Monkey_arma> finally stupid people have a purpose
18:55 <Monkey_arma> no it had someone else's name on it
18:55 <Lucifer> then you stole it
18:55 <Monkey_arma> wrong
18:56 <Lucifer> because you can always return to sender at no cost to you
18:56 <Monkey_arma> how?
18:56 <Monkey_arma> it has no return address
18:56 <Monkey_arma> its just a card with first names on it
18:56 <Lucifer> by writing "return to sender" on the envelope and putting it in the outbox
18:56 <Monkey_arma> you fool they wont know where it came from
18:56 <Lucifer> heh
18:56 <Flex> if there's no claimer.. it's not considered stealing
18:56 <Lucifer> you opened a card with money in it that had no return address and was sent to the wrong address?
18:56 <Monkey_arma> all it has is "happy bday from bob etc"
18:57 <Monkey_arma> Lucifer, correct
18:57 <Lucifer> well, if there was no return address, then fine, you didn't steal somebody's birthday present
18:57  * Monkey_arma is a lucker today
18:57 <Monkey_arma> correct Lucifer
18:57 <Lucifer> but I wouldn't have opened a card with no return address on it, I'm just paranoid like that
18:57 <noob7> Oo
18:57 <Monkey_arma> you've been playing to much of this crazy werewolf game
18:57 <Monkey_arma> its affecting all of u
18:58 <Lucifer> no it's not!
18:58 <Lucifer> clearly Monkey_arma (hi there!) is a worm and we take him out asap
18:58 <Flex> you live in america.. what you expect
18:58 <Flex> rest of the world lives in peace :D
18:58 <Monkey_arma> oO
18:58 <Lucifer> this is the land of the unabomber
18:58 <Flex> that was clearly the gov
18:59 <Flex> so was jfk :p
18:59  * Flex hides
19:00 <Lucifer> i'm blaming mi6
19:00 <Lucifer> we need to take them down
19:00 <Monkey_arma> Lucifer, how many birthday cards in america have a return address on? i would suspect none...
19:00 <noob7> after 9/11? are you kidding?
19:00 <Lucifer> I don't know that I'e ever seen one without a return address on it
19:01 <noob7> you have to write your SSN on the card 3 times
19:01 <Lucifer> especially if there's money in it :)
19:01 <Monkey_arma> Lucifer, it most be america then..in europe people dont do that
19:01 <Lucifer> if it goes to the wrong place, you'd hope the other person sends it back so you can try to get it right
19:01 <Monkey_arma> if any americans in here want to disagree with Lucifer now is the time
19:01 <Lucifer> well, in america we're taught not to open mail from people who are too chickenshit to identify themselves
19:01 <noob7> because you'd get sued otherwise
19:01 <noob7> :o
19:02 <Monkey_arma> its good to see you are taught something there at least
19:02 <Monkey_arma> 1 in 3 cant find USA on a world map
19:02 <Flex> america is seriously fucked
19:02  * Monkey_arma agrees
19:02 <noob7> this discussion, me likes
19:02 <Monkey_arma> britain has gone that way though too
19:02 <noob7> from postcard to fucking america in 10 lines
19:02 <noob7> wtg
19:03 <Flex> back to cholcolate cake in 1
19:03 <noob7> yay!
19:03 <Lucifer> yeah, this channel's full of people who hate americans
19:03 <Lucifer> that's modern enlightened european thought
19:03 <Lucifer> "Oh, we don't hate jews anymore, now we hate americans"
19:03 <Flex> i don't hate americans
19:03 <Flex> we hate america.. :D
19:04 <Monkey_arma> hehe
19:04 <noob7> you cant compare a religous group (some might say race) to a country
19:04 <Lucifer> you can when you're talking about america
19:04 <Lucifer> :)
19:05 <Flex> america to most "american haters" are fox channel and mcdonalds... and oh the bush family?
19:05 <Monkey_arma> just out of interest here Lucifer, if you got a bday card with no return address and some money in it (not that you'd know because you wouldn't have opened it) and no one came to collect it within weeks, what would you do with it?
19:05 <Lucifer> you guys just try to remember that we got our megalomania from Britain and other european traditions
19:05 <Monkey_arma> the problem with americans is that they come from british origins...agreed
19:05 <Flex> he's take the cash
19:05 <Flex> 100%
19:05 <Lucifer> Monkey_arma: I'd have thrown it away.  Birthday cards are personal and private, and I don't look at them if they're not for me, in general
19:06 <noob7> but destryong money is a federal offense!
19:06 <Monkey_arma> correct nice one noob7 !
19:06 <Lucifer> heh
19:06  * Lucifer wonders when he's been that worried about laws
19:06 <epsy> it's the fucking nicest way to get to prison
19:07 <Flex> smoking weed is the nicest way
19:07 <Lucifer> except that chances are there's no money in the card anyway
19:07 <Monkey_arma> wrong
19:07 <Monkey_arma> its a bday card...maybe you amercans dont give money....
19:07 <Lucifer> he's assuming there's money in the card, but he's limiting his question to "cards without return addresses that have money in them"
19:07 <Lucifer> but that's just a member of the group "cards without return addresses"
19:08 <Monkey_arma> if you open the card you might be able to find out who to give it back to
19:08 <Flex> ok you're quite sure the mail has money in it.. because it's clearly the same of cash
19:08 <Lucifer> we typically only give money to grandchildren, apparently.  All other gifts of money are considered shallow
19:08 <Flex> you're telling us you wont take the money?
19:08 <Monkey_arma> americans shallow .....perish the thought
19:08 <Lucifer> no, I'm saying I wouldn't open the card to find out if there's money in it, I'd toss it
19:08 <Flex> but you're sure it has money in it
19:08 <Monkey_arma> i opened the card to see who it was from
19:08 <Monkey_arma> just in case
19:09 <Lucifer> how can I be sure it has money in it without openin it?
19:09 <Monkey_arma> then i saw the cash
19:09 <Lucifer> who is so dumb that they put the money in a card where just anybody could see it's in there?
19:09 <Flex> it's in a money shape and it sounds and feels like some amount of cash
19:09 <Monkey_arma> how can u be sure it doesnt have money in it without opening it...
19:09 <Lucifer> that's the quickest way to get a mailman to rip you off
19:09 <Monkey_arma> lucifer in europe cards are made from...erm ....card
19:09 <Monkey_arma> so you cant see through them
19:09 <Lucifer> right, and you stick the money inside the card so that it's undetectable
19:09 <Monkey_arma> correct
19:10 <Monkey_arma> i opened it first to see who it was from...
19:10 <Flex> ha
19:10 <Lucifer> and if some large amount of cards are guaranteed to have money, then your odds of getting money by stealing cards go up quite a bit
19:10 <Monkey_arma> the money was just a lucky bonus
19:10 <Monkey_arma> oO
19:10  * Monkey_arma changes profession to mailmann
19:10 <Monkey_arma> -n
19:10 <Lucifer> which would indicate that it would be worthwhile to steal birthday cards in the mail
19:11 <Flex> ever heard of the mail robbery
19:11 <Flex> or something
19:11 <Flex> they stole quite alot
19:11 <Lucifer> in the US, afaik (it has been my experience, anyway), most cards don't have money in them, so you'd have to steal a bunch of them to get a small amount
19:11 <Flex> just by robbering the royla mail
19:11 <Monkey_arma> only some have money in
19:11 <Lucifer> robbing from aristocrats may be illegal, but it is not immoral
19:11 <noob7> but lots of cards have gift-cards in them right?
19:11 <Lucifer> the ones with giftcards can be picked out, I think
19:12 <Monkey_arma> some...some cards contain gift vouchers or money and others dont
19:12 <noob7> you'd feel that plastic card inside and got a winner
19:12 <Lucifer> just bend the envelope.  If there's a gift card, it'll try to force the bend to be straight
19:12 <Lucifer> but what if it's a gift card to bath and body?
19:12 <Lucifer> ebay that?
19:12 <noob7> then buy soap and give it away as a birthday present
19:12 <Monkey_arma> take it to shop for a refund
19:12 <noob7> I mostly use my giftcards to buy presents for others
19:13 <Lucifer> hmmm, not me, but that's because I'v eonly been getting barnes and noble gift cards for a few years, so I use them to buy textbooks
19:13 <epsy> to buy a giftcard to offer to someone else?
19:13 <Lucifer> (college bookstore is owned by b&n)
19:14 <Lucifer> hmmm, a man walking into Bath and Body and saying "Someone gave me this gift card for my birthday" looks damn suspicious
19:14 <Lucifer> unless you're really obviously gay or something
19:15 <noob7> I can pass as gay easily
19:15 <Flex> men don't buy soap?
19:15 <Flex> what's wrong with that
19:15 <Flex> don't have to be gay or anything :p
19:15 <epsy> i wonder what would say someone when buying 2 giftcards paying with another
19:16 <noob7> I gorgot which store it was at, but while staying in the US two friends of mine used to buy giftcards with giftcardds to get 5 bucks or so extra (as a bonus when buying the card) until theys closed that loophole
19:16 <noob7> I think it was best buy? could be wrong...
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19:32 <Flex> wb
19:32 <Flex> wanna play?
19:32 <Flex> hello kitty island adventure
19:33 <Monkey_arma> yes i will play
19:33 <Monkey_arma> and kitty who wtf?
19:35 <Flex> hello kitty island adventure..
19:35 <Flex> me and hoax play it
19:36 <hoax> yeah u in monk?
19:36 <Monkey_arma> oO
19:36 <Monkey_arma> no im not in this an auto reply bot with awesome AI
19:37 <noob7> #sd kitty
19:37 <armabot> noob7: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “kitty” at the moment, sorry.
19:37 <noob7> :(
19:37 <Flex> perfect name for a server :D
19:41 <Monkey_arma> so where is this kitty?
19:41 <Flex> let's try nexus9 for abit
19:41 <Monkey_arma> im cooking now
19:42 <Monkey_arma> maybe ctf in a bit :)
19:43 <Monkey_arma> i want a decent fort match...cant we organise one for tonight...6v6 or 7v7...
19:43 <Monkey_arma> DECENT tho
19:43 <Flex> there's meant to be a game with dsvx
19:44 <epsy> Monkey_arma, can you /join #arma.xclan please?
19:44 <Monkey_arma> sure
19:51 <noob7> whoever is responsible for the "ignore feature" - thanks a ton
19:52 <wrtlprnft_opera> probably z-man.
19:56 <noob7> I never thought that there could a crowd worse than DDL, but Nexus tops everything
19:57 <Monkey_arma> it depends who is on
19:57 <pippijn> z-man-work: I'm almost done
20:11 <wrtlprnft> z-man-work: wow, i just noticed how unintuitive lp is to me :-(
20:11 <wrtlprnft> this is the first time i've seen the list of related bugs at the bottom of pages like https://code.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty
20:18 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/txt/4e1c0e9aa222dc363dfd28bfd2a7670f.txt
20:18 <pippijn> how can I reduce code duplication in that?
20:18 <pippijn> I guess I can't
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20:28 <wrtlprnft> pippijn: probably not
20:29 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: I'll do it with auto-generation
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20:30 <Flex> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj04vut0lA8
20:30 <Flex> 3:00 +
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20:33 <Monkey_arma> grr
20:34 <hoax> eat!
20:36 <Monkey_arma> eat what?
20:36 <Monkey_arma> take a minigun to debian xorg more like
20:37 <hoax> <Monkey_arma> grr  eat!<hoax>
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20:39 <Monkey_arma> oO
20:41 <epsy> Monkey_arma, go rape debian?
20:48 <Monkey_arma> agreed
20:51 <Flex> Monkey_arma, come cafe
20:51 <Flex> quick
20:52 <Monkey_arma> er..ok?
20:53 <Monkey_arma> #tea
20:53 <armabot> Monkey_arma: Fortress Café: Players (7/32): Badzilla, Izual, onetwo=3, Raiden, RoterBaron, ¦×¦ Flex, ¦×¦ Hoax
20:54 <Flex> nm
20:54 <Flex> sorted now
20:55 <Monkey_arma> oh great take me out the most awesome game of ctf since...the last one
20:55 <Monkey_arma> actually its pants
20:56 <pippijn> z-man-work:
20:56 <pippijn>   s = &std::cout;
20:56 <pippijn>   std::ostream *out = s;
20:56 <pippijn>   *out << "Hello world\n";
20:56 <pippijn> z-man-work: with scalar s
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21:01 <pippijn> z-man-work: http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/txt/7807e06e74938b5c13c9871d12890969.txt
21:01 <pippijn> z-man-work: http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/txt/05341f1af1aa0cc4cb2c25a012e56fea.txt <- this is the output
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21:20 <guru3> "Surely the worms are deciding on their strategy together."
21:20 <guru3> nothing supports that statement
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21:29 <pippijn> zmanuel
21:29 <pippijn> did you see the scalar?
21:47 <wrtlprnft> guru3: i think the best worms are the worms who don't know who they are during the day
21:47 <pippijn> zmanuel: http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/up/scalar.h.txt
21:48 <wrtlprnft> the general odds with random lynching are definitely in favor of the wolves
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21:59 <pippijn> good night
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22:39 <noob13> wb.
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23:17 <luke-jr> #last --from cusco
23:18 <armabot> luke-jr: [04:22:53] <cusco> to open a query
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23:55 <madmax> #tea
23:55 <armabot> madmax: Fortress Café: Players (9/32): AA, Blackbird (Hay-Lin@forums), crayzian, CTxGonzap, madmax (madmax@forums), noob13, O--->, unclepunkle, |x| Sticky
23:56 <Monkey_arma> ah looks good
23:57 <akira_> o
23:57 <Monkey_arma> hi akira_ long time no c
23:57  * akira_ throws his stupid mates enforcing wlan on him into a shredder
23:57 <akira_> cant play tron :(
23:57 <akira_> wlan spikes
23:57 <Monkey_arma> wlan sucks ass
23:57 <akira_> indeed
23:57 <Monkey_arma> all wireless suck
23:57 <akira_> indeed
23:58 <akira_> tell me sth. new!
23:58 <akira_> :(
23:58 <Monkey_arma> we actually tested wired v wireless keyboards
23:58  * akira_ weeps
23:58 <Monkey_arma> and found that in tron it makes a difference, which was confirmed in #wireless
23:58 <akira_> yea tron is so sensitive
23:59 <luke-jr> wow
23:59 <luke-jr> I didn't realize wireless *keyboards* were bad
23:59 <Flex> they confirmed shit
23:59 <Monkey_arma> oh yeah
23:59 <Monkey_arma> they said it as fact
23:59 <Flex> i confirmed it :D
23:59 <madmax> Monkey_arma: you just didn't grind
23:59 <Monkey_arma> hah
23:59 <Flex> we already know wireless keyboards are worse then wired ones in gaming

Log from 2008-04-18:
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00:00 <Monkey_arma> thought i was spec
00:00 <luke-jr> Flex: and mice?
00:00 <Monkey_arma> sry madmax
00:00 <Flex> just never assumed tron would be effected
00:00 <Monkey_arma> ;)
00:00 <luke-jr> tron is effected by any problem relating to latency ☺
00:00 <Flex> it counts for mouses too i suspect.. same signal/wired connection
00:00 <Your_mom_arma> the speed of light is way too slow
00:00 <luke-jr> that explains why I suck with mouse
00:01 <Flex> it's not the speed.. something else
00:01 <Monkey_arma> its the lag
00:01 <Monkey_arma> keyboard latency
00:01 <Flex> it will improve over time though
00:01 <Monkey_arma> heh
00:01 <Flex> then us wireless users will laugh at their fagfaces
00:02 <luke-jr> wireless will always add some lag
00:02 <akira_> lag is ok
00:02 <akira_> what i dont like
00:02 <akira_> is spiking every 5 minutes
00:03 <akira_> for 2 secs
00:03 <luke-jr> akira_: that's not keyboard-related
00:03 <Flex> sounds like a signal issue
00:03 <akira_> but that may just be their silly wlan router
00:03 <akira_> yes luke
00:03 <akira_> was refering to the initial rant
00:03 <Flex> we're talking about latency on keyboards compared to wired/wireless
00:03 <akira_> o
00:03 <Monkey_arma> well...first of all every internet is a bit shit
00:03 <Monkey_arma> but wlan is worse
00:04 <Flex> but your issue/rant sounds like signal problems
00:04 <Flex> packet loss or something
00:04 <Flex> i dunno
00:04 <luke-jr> actually, internet tends to be fine
00:04 <Monkey_arma> and then...now im not claiming to be an expert..but one day we might just have network code version 2 ;)
00:04 <luke-jr> problem is mostly on teh ISPs
00:04  * Monkey_arma runs
00:05 <luke-jr> that's why you need to get service from me to host a good server :D
00:06 <Flex> akira_, search google for wireless spikes or something :p
00:12 <Flex> Monkey_arma, it's not the end of the world.. i'm sure they'll improve the latency sooner or later
00:14 <Flex> anyway i play with wireless keyboard so you aint got shit on us :p
00:16 <noob7> ahahahahaha
00:16 <noob7> sorry
00:17 <Flex> lol what
00:17 <noob7> luke-jr :P
00:18 <noob7> #13
00:18 <armabot> noob7: noob13 seems to be on Fortress Café right now.
00:18 <noob7> #monkey
00:18 <armabot> noob7: Monkey has last been seen on Fortress Café 1 day 1 hour 42 minutes ago.
00:19 <luke-jr> noob7: ?
00:19 <noob7> I like how you always add that "I sell server slots" :)
00:19 <noob7> are you selling stuff in your 9-5 job?
00:19 <luke-jr> no
00:20 <luke-jr> wanna play a quick P&W on IRC?
00:20 <noob7> P&W ?
00:20 <luke-jr> Progs & Worms
00:20  * luke-jr ponders throwing together a Perl script to be the GM
00:20 <luke-jr> or maybe a supybot mod
00:21 <noob7> I have been awake for a little over 30h not a good idea I think
00:21 <noob7> but a spybot mod would be great actually
00:21 <luke-jr> spybot?
00:21  * noob7 cant type
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00:22 <noob7> heya dorka, when do signups open?
00:22 <luke-jr> Durka: are DDL settings public?
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00:23 <Durka> luke-jr: why
00:23 <luke-jr> Durka: someone wants to setup a clone
00:23 <Durka> tell them no
00:23 <luke-jr> …
00:26 <noob7> so when do signups open?
00:27 <luke-jr> ?
00:28 <noob7> for that team tournament thingy, cant link you to the thread atm as I am playing
00:35 <Monkey_arma> luke-jr just wants to get someone else on one of his (rather poor) servers
00:36 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: better than most
00:36 <Monkey_arma> lmao
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00:43 <StickyNoob> hehe: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Armagetron "A game the passes the time, and can also consume lives for losers who play online all day, and get a kick out of it online everday."
00:46 <Monkey_arma> at least spell "that" correctly ....idk
00:46 <Monkey_arma> hey we dont play all day..just 75%
00:47 <StickyNoob> i believe wrtlprnft is keeping stats on how long we all polay
00:47 <StickyNoob> *play
00:48 <Monkey_arma> oO
00:48 <Monkey_arma> i know :\
00:48 <Monkey_arma> however..i dont smurf so its not quite correct...
00:48 <Monkey_arma> others smurf a lot of the time
00:49 <madmax> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/playerstats2.htm
00:49 <madmax> you play too much Monkey
00:49 <Monkey_arma> hey you smurf too..!
00:50 <Monkey_arma> believe me i would not be there if auth was compulsory
00:50 <StickyNoob> WOOO /me is not in the top 500
00:50 <Monkey_arma> yes i do tho lol
00:50 -!- Lackadaisical__ is now known as Lackadaisical
00:51 <Monkey_arma> sometimes i leave it in spec..that counts as playing...but not much so i cant blame that :)
00:51 <StickyNoob> fuck me monkey 7th??
00:51 <Monkey_arma> StickyNoob, i would not be 7th if auth was compulsory
00:51 <Monkey_arma> i dont smurf
00:51 <StickyNoob> me neither
00:51 <Monkey_arma> i do however play a lot
00:51 <Monkey_arma> you dont much i will say
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00:52 <Monkey_arma> however if we could do a poll on how many hours doing shit, many people would be high up
00:52 -!- Durka is now known as Durka-away
00:52 <StickyNoob> i recon for some reason  it is not loging me
00:53 <Monkey_arma> heh
00:54 <Monkey_arma> epsy is 23 without the smurfs being registered....
00:55  * StickyNoob will start smurfing as Monkey to bump him up
00:55 <StickyNoob> i dont know any of the top6 (other than player 1)
00:56 <Monkey_arma> ok here is how accurate that is
00:56 <Monkey_arma> madmax aka MAD MAX lmao
00:56 <Monkey_arma> not the same perso
00:56 <madmax> Monkey_arma: 'i don't smurf' and 'you smurf too..!' aren't compatible
00:56 <Monkey_arma> yes they are
00:56 <Monkey_arma> <==== english
00:56 <StickyNoob> depends on if there is a 3rd person in the convo
00:57 <madmax> there wasn't
00:57 <Monkey_arma> it can refer to a previous sentence
00:57 <Monkey_arma> which it did
00:57 <madmax> fail.
00:57 <Monkey_arma> madmax, fail
00:57 <Monkey_arma> others smurf a lot of the time
00:57 <Monkey_arma> thats the one
00:58 <StickyNoob> how am i not in the top 500
00:58 <Monkey_arma> bug
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00:58 <Lackadaisical> is there an exciting game somewhere? i just got killed in the werewolf game
00:58 <StickyNoob> yo rico
00:58 <StickyNoob> #tea
00:59 <armabot> StickyNoob: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
00:59 <StickyNoob> #serverinfo CTF
00:59 <armabot> StickyNoob: Wild West  =CTF Shooting=: Players (5/10): >>Barbara-Jean<, MK, MySt3rY, XC| husky, |PwN|Carnage
00:59 <rico> morning
01:00 <Monkey_arma> rico on irc oO
01:00 <Monkey_arma> howdy
01:00 <madmax> Lackadaisical: probably DDL :-D
01:00 <Monkey_arma> heh
01:00 -!- Durka-away is now known as Durka
01:00 <StickyNoob> rico: i take it you wernt at the game earlier?
01:00 <Monkey_arma> ye lack the regulars there are asking where you are
01:00 -!- Durka is now known as Durka-away
01:00 <rico> no, i forgot
01:00 <Lackadaisical> ouch
01:00 <StickyNoob> appaerntly x got the crap kicked out of them
01:01 <rico> i heard
01:01 <Lackadaisical> against?
01:01 <Monkey_arma> lmao by DS
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01:01 <StickyNoob> yeah
01:01 <Monkey_arma> :\
01:01 <rico> ah well
01:01  * rico blames france
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01:02 <Monkey_arma> the french..they dont have clocks either
01:02 <rico> cocks*
01:02 <hoax> nah france is full of cocks
01:02 <rico> ha
01:02 <rico> just ask fo
01:02 <epsy> Monkey_arma, ??
01:03 <Monkey_arma> yes epsy
01:03 <rico> gaypsy:p
01:03 <epsy> <Monkey_arma> epsy is 23 without the smurfs being registered....
01:03 <Monkey_arma> and....?
01:03  * epsy didn't know he was more than one
01:03 <Monkey_arma> you smurf a bit..but not much
01:03 <epsy> what the hell did that mean monk
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01:03 <Monkey_arma> relax its just a joke
01:03 <epsy> um..
01:03 <epsy> not really
01:04 <Monkey_arma> its true but im messin with you
01:04 <Monkey_arma> as in havin a laugh
01:04 <Monkey_arma> so chill
01:04 <MaZuffeR> 23 = 23rd?
01:04 <Monkey_arma> ah MaZuffeR  to the rescue
01:04 <Monkey_arma> yes 23rd
01:04 <MaZuffeR> :)
01:04 <Monkey_arma> you didnt understand that?
01:04 <Monkey_arma> epsy you fool
01:04 <epsy> 23rd at what
01:05 <Monkey_arma> epsy read up
01:05 <madmax> ahh the context issue
01:05 <Monkey_arma> and also turn up...to  tourneys that you create
01:05 <Monkey_arma> :\
01:05 <Monkey_arma> <======== expects abuse now
01:05 <epsy> wow
01:06 <epsy> i was like 50th yesterday, i remember having checked that day
01:06 <epsy> i played like for 3 mins
01:06 <epsy> but let arma in spec mode for hours long in bg lol
01:06  * Monkey_arma smells something
01:07 <epsy> you smell the monkey ahahah not funny
01:07 <madmax> my excuse is that 'mad max' plays much more than me
01:07 <Monkey_arma> nice one max
01:08 <hoax> all those nights in nexus nine takin thier toll eh max
01:08 <Monkey_arma> "01:10:49 <@noob7> epsy? that gay dude from france?"
01:08 <StickyNoob> my excuse is that the powers that be dont want the world to know my awesome power and so conspier with the man to keep me off the list
01:08 <epsy> Monkey_arma, /me didn't create any tourney
01:08 <madmax> hoax: says the 86er to the 219er :P
01:09 <hoax> lol :/
01:09 <Monkey_arma> epsy, ok organised
01:10 <StickyNoob> #rating sticky
01:10 <armabot> StickyNoob: I don't know anything about 'sticky'!
01:10 <StickyNoob> #rating |x|_sticky
01:10 <armabot> StickyNoob: |x|_sticky is 537th with a rating of 1581-1609 (from 1565-1607)
01:10 <StickyNoob> feel the awesome power
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01:12 <Monkey_arma> ye ok so we trust that entirely
01:12 <Monkey_arma> #rating luke-jr
01:12 <armabot> Monkey_arma: luke-jr is 67th with a rating of 1659-1699 (from 1664-1695)
01:12 <Monkey_arma> dubious
01:12 <StickyNoob> humph
01:13 <StickyNoob> screw you guys im going home
01:13 <StickyNoob> #rating madmax
01:13 <armabot> StickyNoob: madmax is 1484th with a rating of 1526-1610 (from 1150-1850)
01:13 <noob13> #rating noob13
01:13 <armabot> noob13: noob13 is 1305th with a rating of 1535-1554 (from 1535-1559)
01:13 <noob13> nice!
01:13 <madmax> muhahaha
01:13 <StickyNoob> 1484??? yeah thats lies
01:13 <Lackadaisical> max is like 22th
01:13 <Lackadaisical> #rating madmax@forums
01:13 <armabot> Lackadaisical: I don't know anything about 'madmax@forums'!
01:14 <Monkey_arma> and luke is not even in triple figures let alone doublle
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01:14 <Lackadaisical> http://ratings.armagetronad.net/ says that madmax is 22nd
01:14 <Lackadaisical> i was 15th once :(
01:16 <StickyNoob> can you get more than the top 25?
01:17 <Monkey_arma> i dont reckon any of those are accurate...they cant take in to account the roles in team games
01:18 <madmax> gnight
01:18 <Monkey_arma> cu
01:18 <Lackadaisical> gnight
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01:19 <flea> heya
01:19 <Monkey_arma> hi there
01:19 <flea> i'm trying to emerge armagetronad from layman
01:19 <flea> i'm gettin the ft_free not found in configure
01:19 <flea> wondering if that has been addressed
01:19 <flea> seen the post from jul.07
01:22 <flea> just found a newer post from this year
01:22 <flea> but hard maskin armagetronad didnt work either
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01:22 <flea> -~amd64
01:24 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: dubious cuz I pwn u
01:25 <luke-jr> #rating 0:madmax@forums
01:25 <armabot> luke-jr: 0:madmax@forums is 22nd with a rating of 1695-1804 (from 1150-1850)
01:25 <StickyNoob> heh
01:25 <StickyNoob> whats the 0: do?
01:25 <StickyNoob> #rating 0:Sticky@x
01:26 <armabot> StickyNoob: timed out
01:26 <StickyNoob> nothing for me clearly
01:26 <Monkey_arma> i would reply to luke-jr but my sides have just split with laughter and i need to seek medical attention
01:27 <Monkey_arma> #rating 0:monkey@x
01:27 <luke-jr> flea: what version of freetype?
01:27 <armabot> Monkey_arma: timed out
01:27 <flea> luke-jr, hey! freetype-2.3.5-r2
01:28 <luke-jr> z-man-work: aww, let them lose so we can play a new game
01:28 <luke-jr> flea: link me the post?
01:28 <flea> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-640952.html?sid=f98c186a23b93519585af68b9b3fa270
01:30 <luke-jr> flea: does the problem occur with trunk?
01:30 <flea> tryin now Lucifer
01:30 <flea> oops
01:30 <flea> luke-jr,
01:30 <Ttech> orly
01:30 <Ttech> :H
01:30 <luke-jr> oh, freetype not ftgl
01:30 <luke-jr> I think I know that one
01:31 <flea> :>
01:31 <flea> checking for FT_Free in -lfreetype... no
01:31 <luke-jr> we were using some internal unsupported freetype func
01:35 <flea> hrm i just grabbed: http://superb-west.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/armagetronad/armagetronad-0.3.0.src.tar.gz
01:35 <flea> and i have no configure script anywhere
01:35 <StickyNoob> bootstrap.sh?
01:35 <flea> ran it
01:36 <Monkey_arma> :(
01:36 <Monkey_arma> what about the version of aclocal you are using
01:36 <Monkey_arma> that was an issue for some
01:36 <Monkey_arma> try later version
01:36 <StickyNoob> what does bootstrap finnish with?
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01:37 <flea> autoconf-2.62
01:37 <flea> it says to run ./configure
01:37 <flea> (successfully)
01:37 <StickyNoob> yeah mine ends with "Done!  You may now run configure and start building."
01:37 <flea> so it seems
01:37 <luke-jr> flea: wanna post on there for me? I can't login
01:37 <flea> i dont have a login
01:37 <luke-jr> meh
01:37 <flea> but will hold
01:37 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r8410 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/armagetronad/ (3 files in 2 dirs): patch freetype check
01:37 <flea> f.go ?
01:38 <luke-jr> flea: try that one
01:38 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: has nothing to do with autoconf
01:39 <luke-jr> well, I shouldn't say nothing
01:39 <luke-jr> but not that much ☺
01:39 <luke-jr> FT_Free just isn't a supported symbol
01:41 <Monkey_arma> i dont know what errors hes getting..just saying if you get bootstrap issues thats one option
01:48 <flea> sorry back, so is there a patch against the ft_free call ?
01:48 <flea> id rather resolve that one as it can run configure lol
01:56 <flea> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-5065049.html#5065049
02:03 <flea> hah i just synced and got
02:04 <flea> A    /usr/portage/local/layman/armagetron/games-action/armagetronad/files/030_fix-freetype-check.patch
02:04 <flea> U    /usr/portage/local/layman/armagetron/games-action/armagetronad/armagetronad-0.3.0-r1.ebuild
02:04 <flea> U    /usr/portage/local/layman/armagetron/games-action/armagetronad/Manifest
02:04 <flea> Updated to revision 8410.
02:04 <flea> ty
02:08 <luke-jr> #rating prowler
02:08 <armabot> luke-jr: prowler is 7976th with a rating of 1321-1458 (from 1322-1457)
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02:11 <ct|kyle> #rating ct_ky13
02:11 <armabot> ct|kyle: ct_ky13 is 8070th with a rating of 1319-1470 (from 1320-1469)
02:12 <ct|kyle> :D never play on servers that use it
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02:32 <mkzelda> ah ty for that patch, been fixing that manually for a year or so
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02:49  * luke-jr mutters about people who don't report bugs
02:50 <noob7> #ss K I N
02:50 <armabot> noob7: | - G r i d  K i n g  L a n d- | USA DDL Clone (2/16): PLAYERS (2): gK|Prowler (0), AndY bR (-2)
02:50 <noob7> so the clone is up then? :P
02:50 <noob13> oh its a USA serv..?
02:50 <Durka> ghei
02:52  * mkzelda mutters something about mentioning it 10+ times or so
02:52 <noob7> durka, at least half of the faggots from DDL will now be on the US server
02:52 <Durka> that's not the point
02:52 <noob7> it actually is
02:52 <Durka> would you want me to create 4 clones of all the MCP servers and jack half ur players?
02:52 <noob7> go ahead
02:53 <noob7> :)
02:53 <Durka> meh
02:53 <Durka> :P
02:53 <noob7> if you take the faggots
02:53 <noob7> thats cool with me
02:53 <noob7> also, prowler does not have your settings
02:53 <noob7> he is begging for them on MSN actually
02:54  * noob7 is really amused by all this
02:54 <noob7> especially then fact that they are paying luke xD
02:55 <noob7> (well I hope they are)
02:55 <Durka> ha xD
02:55 <noob7> this really pissing you off durka?
02:55 <Durka> no
02:55 <noob7> ok :)
02:55 <Durka> but luke wont stop IMing me
02:55 <noob7> hehehe
02:56 <Durka> "GIMME T3H SETT1N6Z!
02:56 <noob7> arma is so hilarious
02:56 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: want a bug i found
02:56 <noob7> lols
02:56  * noob7 needs to go outside now
02:56 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: no, if it's you, you are the bug
02:57 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: on the 0.3.0 trunk, there is a menu glitch
02:57 <luke-jr> Durka agreed to email me teh settings :þ
02:57 <Durka> :D
02:58 <noob7> yay
02:58 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: there is no 0.3.0 trunk foo
02:58 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: whatever the trunk is
02:59 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: custom connect menu does not work if you go in subcultures menu
03:00 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: good for you
03:00 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: fix it
03:00 <mkzelda> he'll get to it in a year or so
03:02 <ct|kyle> that soon?
03:02 <ct|kyle> i may find it by then
03:14 <luke-jr> you find a bug?
03:14 <luke-jr> lolol
03:14 <luke-jr> ;)
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03:40 <luke-jr> hm
03:40 <luke-jr> the worm's already left?
03:40 <luke-jr> oh well, maybe later ☺
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03:52 <luke-jr> heh
03:52 <luke-jr> Lucifer just guaranteed his own survival past this turn
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04:42 <Durka> Lucifer / Lucifer_bed ping
04:42 <Lucifer> Durka / Dorka ping
04:42 <Durka> haha :D
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04:44 <Lucifer> you get my response, durka?
04:53 <Durka> Lucifer is smexy
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06:23 <Lucifer> word to the wise from the unwise: don't drive barefoot in a cold thunderstorm without a working heater
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07:07 <Durka> Lucifer smells
07:07 <Durka> Lucifer_bed does too
07:12 <Lucifer> there's no way in hell this wine is good
07:12 <Durka> :O
07:12 <Lucifer> I wonder if I can get my money back if I take it in and tell them it's bad
07:13 <Durka> rofl
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07:18 <Durka> #kill MrBougo
07:18 <armabot> MrBougo will die on Fri Apr 18 07:25:29 2008 due to being stabbed in the eye by Durka
07:18 <MrBougo> you got my msg, didn't you?
07:18 <MrBougo> :p
07:18 <MrBougo> I don't even remember what it said
07:19 <Lucifer> this is extremely disappointing
07:19 <Lucifer> this wine is corked!
07:19 <Lucifer> this is a corked wine!
07:19 <Lucifer> grrrrr
07:20 <Durka> yea :(
07:20 <Durka> it was like "hi"
07:20 <Durka> :P
07:21  * Lucifer is really disappointed
07:21 <Lucifer> it has the most horrible smell coming from it
07:22 <Lucifer> gives me the shivers just thinking about it
07:22  * Lucifer will see if the store will take it back tomorrow and let him get a different bottle
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07:31 <MrBougo> bye
07:32 <MrBougo> ewww, wine
07:32  * MrBougo hides
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07:40 <Lucifer> I'm still shuddering thinking about that wine
07:45 <Lucifer> I think tasting that wine was the worst moment of my life
08:04 <Lucifer> I'm gonna have nightmares about it, I just know it
08:04 <Lucifer> should've bought the blush instead
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09:57 <pippijn> z-man: http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/up/scalar.h.txt
09:58 <z-man> you don't like comments, apparently :)
09:58 <pippijn> z-man: didn't have time, yet
09:59 <pippijn> I was happy enough it worked at all :-)
10:01 <pippijn> z-man: the mathematical operator predicates are generated, by the way
10:01 <pippijn> z-man: and so are the operators themselves
10:02 <pippijn> z-man: http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/txt/91a9a2ddfe73404eca1f193451cbcc38.txt <-  like this
10:03 <z-man> What's that for a language?
10:03 <pippijn> perl
10:08 <pippijn> z-man:
10:08 <pippijn> oops
10:08 <pippijn> z-man: http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/txt/f5e632f33ce29a759c6eac41adbe30af.txt
10:08 <pippijn> http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/txt/c53c51b368911c068d26c783401717a8.txt <- this is what the map looks like
10:08 <pippijn> it's a map<scalar,scalar>
10:09 <z-man> aha, nice.
10:10 <pippijn> I don't know how to define the semantics of scalar+scalar
10:11 <pippijn> there are always three types a scalar can currently have
10:11 <pippijn> should I just throw an exception if you try to add up an int-scalar and a string-scalar or should the int be converted to string and added?
10:11 <pippijn> I don't know how to implement the latter
10:12 <pippijn> throwing exceptions when you don't know how to handle a situation is easy
10:14 <pippijn> okay
10:14 <pippijn> I do know how to implement the latter, but not how to do it efficiently
10:43 <pippijn> z-man: http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/txt/4314f6f48c515c79df4e3305d4808c31.txt
10:48 <pippijn> z-man: what do you think?
10:49 <z-man> Don't ask me complicated things before I drunk my coffee :)
10:49 <pippijn> okay :-)
10:56 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer: why would wise people need your advice? ;-)
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11:05 <Durka> wrtlprnft :\
11:05 <pippijn> z-man: http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/txt/45d1e56936090f62d2a26ccb53536ac9.txt <- crtp really is useful
11:08 <z-man> Nice again.
11:08 <Durka> z-man did you see Lucifer's post?
11:08 <z-man> which one?
11:09 <z-man> Ah, the one where he announced to protect you?
11:09  * z-man is not commenting
11:09 <Durka> no
11:10 <Durka> about how he announced his identity
11:10 <Durka> is that even allowed?
11:10 <z-man> It is allowed, but I will neither back up nor refute his claims.
11:11 <z-man> Hrm, computer is getting sluggish, must restart kde.
11:11 <pippijn> z-man: I added another type called NI (not initialised)
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11:12 <pippijn> O.o
11:12 <pippijn> oh
11:12 <Durka> lol
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11:13 <pippijn> http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/txt/039720e212f7dd7cff3738b69ffb4457.txt
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11:13 <pippijn> z-man: http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/txt/039720e212f7dd7cff3738b69ffb4457.txt
11:13 <pippijn> z-man: http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/txt/533b504db596074a6bc9c5c9d5f5c7c3.txt
11:13 <pippijn> scalars are "uninitialised" when they are first created
11:14 <z-man> Probably a good idea.
11:15 <pippijn> I'm adding the check to all operations
11:15 <pippijn> it will slow things down a bit, but it's safer
11:15 <pippijn> operating on uninitialised scalars is Bad
11:18 <Durka> z-man: so you're saying that Luci could be lying and he's not saving me?
11:18 <Durka> shit
11:19 <pippijn> z-man: http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/txt/f351b87e52f3bd6b74812af5214ad2c3.txt
11:20 <pippijn> now I have things like:
11:20 <pippijn>     bool operator == (T const &rhs) const
11:20 <pippijn>     {
11:20 <pippijn>       initialised ("comparison");
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11:23 <pippijn>   bar += 3;
11:23 <pippijn>   what():  Use of uninitialized value in addition
11:23 <pippijn>   bar *= 3;
11:23 <pippijn>   what():  Use of uninitialized value in multiplication
11:24 <pippijn>   bar ^= 3;
11:24 <pippijn>   what():  Use of uninitialized value in bitwise exclusive OR
11:24 <pippijn> etc..
11:24 <pippijn> z-man: cool huh :-D
11:24 <z-man> pippijn: yeah :)
11:24 <pippijn> z-man: http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/txt/7ba6630450aaa991e2d38017c36ab599.txt <- named operations defined here
11:25 <z-man> Durka: i'm saying exactly nothing :)
11:25 <Durka> :P
11:26 <pippijn> c++ is awesome
11:26 <pippijn> really
11:26 <Durka> z-man: how often are we going to be doing this game?
11:26 <pippijn> it so is
11:26 <z-man> Durka: dunno, as often as you guys want
11:26 <Durka> pippijn is awesome
11:26 <pippijn> why?
11:27 <Durka> aww you're never going to participate? :(
11:31 <pippijn> dunno :-)
11:32 <spidey> what the fuck
11:32 <spidey> i think we just had a tremor x_X
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11:39 <pippijn> http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/up/structadt_1_1scalar__coll__graph.png
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13:13 <z-man-work> #later tell Durka z-man slaps you for USING SO MUCH BOLD TEXT.
13:13 <armabot> z-man-work: The operation succeeded.
13:13 <wrtlprnft> ?
13:20 <wrtlprnft> Apr 18 11:18:38 [1] killerbees19: TOADMIN. This server is great!!! :)
13:20 <wrtlprnft> now that's an encuraging log message
13:20 <wrtlprnft> Apr 18 11:58:04 [7] durk: TOADMIN i got wrtlpwnd :\
13:20 <wrtlprnft> that isn't
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14:18 <llAMYll> haha guru3!
14:18 <llAMYll> =P
14:20 <guru3> ...
14:26 <llAMYll> :)
14:33 <z-man-work> LOLSPAM?
14:34 <llAMYll> lolspam :D
14:36 <llAMYll> i can't open armagetron anymore :(
14:36 <llAMYll> everytime i try to run it, because i set it to window mode and has made itself really really slow, and i have to restart X
14:36 <llAMYll> where does the configuration file get saved to? :)
14:38 <llAMYll> do you reckon its because my monitor's too big ? i can't seem to be able to do the thing you did :(
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14:40 <StickyNoob> config files are in ~/.armagetron/
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14:43 <llAMYll> okay ;) cheers
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17:56 <madmax> ouch
17:56 <pippijn> ouch?
18:07 <madmax> ouch @ torres' connection
18:10 <wrtlprnft> nah, it's probably the same as pippijn's
18:10 <wrtlprnft> he's just testing it and keeps making changes that need a restart to take effect
18:11 <wrtlprnft> torres: { int i; cout << (i - 1); }
18:11 <torres> ‘i’ is used uninitialized in this function
18:11 <wrtlprnft> stfu!
18:11 <wrtlprnft> torres: { int i=42; cout << (i - 1); }
18:11 <torres> 41
18:11 <wrtlprnft> torres: { int i=42; cout << (&i - 1); }
18:11 <torres> 0x7fffba61f1f0
18:12 <wrtlprnft> torres: { int *i=0; cout << *(&i - 1); }
18:12 <torres> 0
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18:12 <wrtlprnft> torres: { int *i=0; cout << *(&i - 2); }
18:12 <torres> 0x7fff55861510
18:12 <madmax> :O
18:13 <madmax> oh, so this is what you've been talking about around here?
18:13 <wrtlprnft> that was z-man-work and pippijn
18:13 <wrtlprnft> but it was something entirely different
18:13 <wrtlprnft> about pippijn's crazy template inventions and his own preprocessor
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18:14 <epsy> :P
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18:18 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: exactly
18:18 <pippijn> I was modifying it
18:19 <pippijn> torres: { scalar s = 20; cout << s + 10; }
18:19 <torres> suggest parentheses around && within ||
18:19 <pippijn> bleh
18:19 <pippijn> torres: -n { scalar s = 20; cout << s + 10; }
18:19 <torres> 30
18:19 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: that warning is a gcc bug
18:19 <pippijn> torres: -n { scalar s = 20; cout << s + "10"; }
18:19 <torres> runtime_error: Incompatible types in addition
18:19 <pippijn> torres: -n { scalar s = 20; s.force<std::string> (); cout << s + "10"; }
18:19 <torres> 2010
18:20 <pippijn> torres: -n { scalar s = 20; s.force<std::string> (); s.force<int> (); s %= 221; cout << s; } }
18:20 <torres> expected declaration before ‘}’ token
18:20 <pippijn> torres: -n { scalar s = 20; s.force<std::string> (); s += "10"; s.force<int> (); s %= 221; cout << s; }
18:20 <torres> 21
18:20 <pippijn> torres: -n { scalar s = "20"; s += 10; }
18:20 <torres> runtime_error: Incompatible types in addition
18:20 <pippijn> torres: -n { scalar s; s += 10; }
18:20 <torres> runtime_error: Use of uninitialised value in addition
18:20 <pippijn> torres: -n { scalar s; s = 10; }
18:20 <torres> Compilation and execution successful, no program output.
18:21 <pippijn> it's funny how c++ generates operator= for me
18:21 <pippijn> I didn't define any
18:21 <pippijn> but gcc can do it, because scalar has only one member
18:21 <pippijn> torres: << sizeof (scalar)
18:21 <torres> 24
18:21 <wrtlprnft> copy assignment is always autoimplemented by the compiler
18:21 <pippijn> which is rather large :-)
18:22 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: 10 is not of type scalar
18:22 <wrtlprnft> implicit constructor?
18:22 <pippijn> yes
18:22 <pippijn> it's convertible
18:22 <pippijn> torres: << tr1::is_convertible<int, scalar>::value
18:22 <torres> true
18:22 <wrtlprnft> torres: << scalar("20") + 42;
18:22 <torres> suggest parentheses around && within ||
18:22 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: use -n
18:22 <wrtlprnft> torres: -n << scalar("20") + 42;
18:22 <torres> runtime_error: Incompatible types in addition
18:23 <wrtlprnft> torres: -n << scalar("20") + scalar(42);
18:23 <torres> 2042
18:23 <pippijn> right
18:23 <wrtlprnft> torres: -n << scalar(20) + scalar("42");
18:23 <torres> 62
18:23 <pippijn> that one is uhm
18:23 <pippijn> I didn't implement it
18:23 <pippijn> the compiler does wild conversions to allow for that
18:24 <pippijn> quite funny
18:24 <pippijn> operator + (scalar, scalar) is not commutative
18:24 <wrtlprnft> yeah, i noticed
18:24 <pippijn> but neither is operator==
18:24 <wrtlprnft> torres: -n << scalar(20) == scalar("20");
18:24 <torres> no match for ‘operator==’ in ‘adt::operator<<(((ostream&)(& cout)), ((const adt::scalar&)((const adt::scalar*)(& adt::scalar(((const int&)((const int*)(&20)))))))) == adt::scalar(((const char (&)[3])"20"))’
18:24 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: parentheses
18:24 <wrtlprnft> torres: -n << (scalar(20) == scalar("20"));
18:24 <torres> true
18:25 <pippijn> torres: -n << (scalar (20) == scalar ("20 apples"))
18:25 <torres> false
18:25 <wrtlprnft> darn bit shift operator abuse
18:25 <pippijn> torres: -n << (scalar ("20 apples") == scalar (20))
18:25 <torres> true
18:25 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: see
18:25 <wrtlprnft> torres: -n << (scalar("20") == scalar(20));
18:25 <torres> true
18:25 <pippijn> I did implement op ==
18:25 <pippijn> and it gets converted to the type of the second
18:25 <pippijn> the rhs
18:25 <wrtlprnft> ah
18:25 <pippijn> I don't know what it does for operator +
18:26 <wrtlprnft> convert to the first apparently
18:26 <pippijn> I don't know what it does in between
18:26 <pippijn> whether it converts at all
18:26 <pippijn> because op+ is a template
18:26 <wrtlprnft> torres: -n << (scalar("") + scalar(M_PI));
18:26 <torres> 3.14159265358979
18:26 <pippijn> op+ is defined using op+=
18:27 <pippijn> torres: -n << (scalar (M_PI) + scalar (""))
18:27 <torres> 3.14159265358979
18:27 <pippijn> hm
18:27 <pippijn> torres: -n << (scalar (M_PI) + scalar ("world"))
18:27 <torres> 3.14159265358979
18:27 <pippijn> yes
18:27 <pippijn> but this sucks
18:27 <pippijn> torres: -n << (scalar ("pi is ") + scalar (M_PI))
18:27 <torres> pi is 3.14159265358979
18:27 <wrtlprnft> torres: -n << (scalar("5") * scalar("7"));
18:27 <torres> 57
18:27 <pippijn> O.o
18:27 <wrtlprnft> torres: -n << (scalar("5") * scalar(7));
18:27 <torres> 57
18:28 <wrtlprnft> torres: -n << (scalar(7) * scalar("hi!"));
18:28 <torres> 7
18:28 <wrtlprnft> err, no comment?
18:28 <pippijn> that's not good
18:28 <wrtlprnft> shouldn't that be 0 or something?
18:28 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: I didn't define it..
18:28 <pippijn> the compiler does things I have no control over
18:28 <pippijn> the semantics of scalar <op> scalar are not defined by me
18:29 <wrtlprnft> torres: -n << (scalar(2) << scalar(1));
18:29 <torres> 3
18:29 <wrtlprnft> now that's odd ;-D
18:29 <pippijn> I should implement them..
18:30 <wrtlprnft> torres: -n << (scalar(M_PI) << scalar(std::complex<double>(1,2)));
18:30 <torres> 3.14159265358979
18:30 <wrtlprnft> err, WHAT?
18:30 <wrtlprnft> torres: -n << (scalar(M_PI) + scalar(std::complex<double>(1,2)));
18:30 <torres> 3.14159265358979
18:30 <pippijn> uhm
18:30 <pippijn> "complex" is no scalar btw :-)
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18:31 <pippijn> torres: << scalar (std::complex<double>(1,2))
18:31 <torres> (1,2)
18:31 <pippijn> it becomes a string
18:32 <wrtlprnft> torres: {std::istringstream s("(42,3.141)"); std::complex<double> c; s >> c; std::cout << c;}
18:32 <torres> (42,3.141)
18:32 <wrtlprnft> i didn't know that was possible
18:32 <pippijn> yes
18:33 <wrtlprnft> torres: -n << (scalar(std::complex<double>(1,2)) + scalar(std::complex<double>(3,4)))
18:33 <torres> (1,2)(3,4)
18:34 <wrtlprnft> torres: {std::istringstream s("42 3.141"); std::complex<double> c; s >> c; std::cout << c;}
18:34 <torres> (42,0)
18:34 <wrtlprnft> torres: {std::istringstream s("42i 3.141"); std::complex<double> c; s >> c; std::cout << c;}
18:34 <torres> (42,0)
18:34 <wrtlprnft> torres: {std::istringstream s((1,2),(3,4)); std::complex<std::complex<double> > c; s >> c; std::cout << c;}
18:34 <torres> no matching function for call to ‘basic_istringstream<char, char_traits<char> >::basic_istringstream(int, int)’
18:35 <wrtlprnft> torres: {std::istringstream s("(1,2),(3,4)"); std::complex<std::complex<double> > c; s >> c; std::cout << c;}
18:35 <torres> ((1,0),(2,0))
18:35 <wrtlprnft> neat.
18:35 <wrtlprnft> torres: {std::istringstream s("(1,2),(3,4)"); std::complex<std::complex<double> > c; s >> c; std::cout << (c*c);}
18:35 <torres> ((-3,0),(4,0))
18:36 <wrtlprnft> torres: {std::istringstream s("((1,2),(3,4))"); std::complex<std::complex<double> > c; s >> c; std::cout << (c);}
18:36 <torres> ((1,2),(3,4))
18:36 <wrtlprnft> torres: {std::istringstream s("((1,2),(3,4))"); std::complex<std::complex<double> > c; s >> c; std::cout << (c*c);}
18:36 <torres> ((4,-20),(-10,20))
18:36  * wrtlprnft stops spamming, there's no real use for that crazyness, anyways
18:36 <wrtlprnft> except if those doubly complex numbers magically become quaternions
18:37 <pippijn> ok
18:37 <wrtlprnft> one more useless spam
18:37 <pippijn> almost done
18:38 <wrtlprnft> torres: {std::istringstream s("(hi,bye)"); std::complex<std::string> c; s >> c; std::cout << (c+c);}
18:38 <torres> (,)
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18:39 <pippijn> I didn't test it..
18:39 <pippijn> but I think this should work
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18:40 <pippijn> torres: << (scalar ("20") + scalar (10))
18:40 <torres> ambiguous overload for ‘operator+’ in ‘adt::scalar(((const char (&)[3])"20")) + adt::scalar(((const int&)((const int*)(&10))))’
18:40 <pippijn> hm
18:40 <pippijn> op
18:40 <pippijn> ok
18:40 <pippijn> doesn't work
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18:40 <pippijn> needs work :-)
18:42  * wrtlprnft wonders why torres needs to be restarted for pure header file changes
18:42 <pippijn> probably doesn't
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18:45 <pippijn> torres: << (scalar ("20") + scalar (10))
18:45 <torres> control reaches end of non-void function
18:45 <pippijn> torres: -n << (scalar ("20") + scalar (10))
18:45 <torres> 30
18:45 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: now its semantics are well-defined
18:45 <pippijn> conversion to type of rhs
18:45 <pippijn> torres: -n << (scalar ("20") * scalar (10))
18:45 <torres> 30
18:45 <pippijn> torres: -n << (scalar ("20") * scalar ("10"))
18:45 <torres> 2010
18:45 <pippijn> oi
18:46 <pippijn> bad
18:46 <pippijn> actually that's weird
18:48 <pippijn> oh!
18:48 <pippijn> stupid
18:49 <pippijn> torres: -n << (scalar ("20") * scalar ("10"))
18:49 <torres> runtime_error: Incompatible types in multiplication
18:49 <pippijn> yeah
18:49 <pippijn> torres: -n << (scalar ("20") << scalar (10))
18:49 <torres> 20480
18:49 <pippijn> that's correct
18:50 <pippijn> torres: -n << (scalar ("20") << scalar (10.3))
18:50 <torres> runtime_error: Incompatible types in left shift
18:51 <wrtlprnft> torres: -n << (scalar("a") * scalar(10))
18:51 <torres> 0
18:51 <wrtlprnft> ;-D
18:51 <Lucifer> hi armabot!
18:51 <pippijn> torres: -n << (scalar ("20") << scalar (10.3))
18:51 <torres> runtime_error: Incompatible types in left shift (real number)
18:51 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: quite expected
18:52 <wrtlprnft> oh, duh
18:52 <wrtlprnft> conversion to RHS
18:52 <pippijn> yes
18:52 <Lucifer> we need a new name for the twg channel
18:52 <pippijn> I think it makes sense
18:52 <pippijn> don't you?
18:52 <wrtlprnft> one might naively expect "aaaaaaaaaa"
18:52 <Lucifer> it looks too much like armatwatgetron
18:52 <pippijn> ah
18:52 <pippijn> well
18:52 <pippijn> I can implement it
18:52 <wrtlprnft> #thearmagetronwormgame
18:53 <wrtlprnft> i don't know, you should know whether it makes sense
18:54 <pippijn> ok
18:54 <pippijn> just for fun
18:54 <pippijn> I will only implement it for scalar*scalar
18:55 <pippijn> not for scalar*int
18:55 <Lucifer> spidey: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601082&sid=aKl6Ye0p4.ZA&refer=canada
18:56 <spidey> lol
18:56 <spidey> lucifer i felt it last night
18:56 <spidey> :D
18:56 <spidey> :S*
18:56 <Lucifer> yeah, I saw you commenting on it, then I saw the news that there was a quake and you weren't hallucinating
18:56 <spidey> heh
18:57 <spidey> when did i comment on it?
18:57 <Lucifer> you're pretty far from Belmont though, right?
18:57 <spidey> O_o
18:57 <spidey> ugh
18:57 <spidey> i'm in northwest TN
18:57 <wrtlprnft> i heard spidey's cry of fear travelling all around the globe
18:57 <spidey> no idear where belmont is
18:57 <Lucifer> [04:39] <spidey> i think we just had a tremor x_X
18:57 <spidey> mm
18:59 <pippijn> it might work
18:59 <pippijn> I didn't test it
18:59 <pippijn> torres: -n << scalar ("a") * scalar (10)
18:59 <torres> aaaaaaaaaaa
18:59 <pippijn> yep
18:59 <wrtlprnft> :-)
19:00 <pippijn> won't work for normal int
19:00 <pippijn> torres: -n << scalar ("a") * 10
19:00 <torres> runtime_error: Incompatible types in multiplication
19:00 <pippijn> it's all a bit hacky
19:00 <wrtlprnft> i noticed that
19:00 <pippijn> http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/txt/69c96c153a06d62c6f0fbdb329b0d5ca.txt
19:01 <pippijn> I'll probably rewrite it when I have time
19:01 <wrtlprnft> do i have to understand that?
19:01 <pippijn> it's clear, isn't it?
19:01 <pippijn> first a type-switch for rhs
19:01 <pippijn> and if rhs is an int, then another type-switch for *this
19:02 <pippijn> and if lhs is a string, create a new string multiplied with the int
19:02 <wrtlprnft> yeah, i understand now
19:02 <wrtlprnft> now that i figured out what NV and SV and all that mean
19:02 <pippijn> http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/txt/bed2d72e4d7c8651fb77df3d0b7f9bed.txt
19:03 <spidey> lucifer, roughly 400 miles
19:03 <spidey> 'er
19:03 <pippijn> I wonder what's faster
19:03 <pippijn> conversion to T and operating on two Ts
19:03 <spidey> 320-340ish, looking at google maps
19:03 <pippijn> or direct manipulation of the internal values
19:04 <pippijn> it was a nontrivial task implementing the latter
19:04 <wrtlprnft> you might want to reserve characters in the new string when multiplicating
19:04 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/txt/4d73d8cf35854620040f22de7bddc82c.txt
19:04 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: yes, I will, at rewrite
19:04 <pippijn> not now
19:04 <pippijn> now I am going to have dinner
19:04 <wrtlprnft> enjoy your meal
19:05 <pippijn> thanks
19:05 <wrtlprnft> torres: << (scalar("a") * scalar(2))
19:05 <torres> control reaches end of non-void function
19:05 <wrtlprnft> torres: -n << (scalar("a") * scalar(2))
19:05 <pippijn> enjoy the code
19:05 <torres> aaa
19:05 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: gcc bug :-(
19:05 <pippijn> oi
19:05 <pippijn> oh yes
19:05 <wrtlprnft> just noticed that when reading the code
19:05 <wrtlprnft> i still enjoy it ;-)
19:05 <pippijn> yeah
19:05 <pippijn> torres: -n << (scalar("a") * scalar(2))
19:05 <torres> aaa
19:05 <pippijn> hum
19:05 <pippijn> oh
19:06 <pippijn> torres: -n << (scalar("a") * scalar(2))
19:06 <torres> aa
19:06 <wrtlprnft> :-)
19:06 <pippijn> torres: -n << (scalar("a") * scalar("2"))
19:06 <torres> runtime_error: Incompatible types in multiplication (string)
19:06 <pippijn> cya
19:08 <Lucifer> better landmark city is evansville indiana
19:08 <Lucifer> the quake was about 7 miles N by NW of that city
19:08 <Lucifer> USGS says the quake was felt 900 miles away
19:08 <Lucifer> can google maps give a straight line distance?  ;)
19:09 <spidey> well
19:09 <spidey> i looked at the map
19:09 <spidey> and estimated with their little line thingy that said it was 200mi per line thingy
19:09 <spidey> it was about 1 1/3 of the 200mi line thingy
19:10 <spidey> O_o
19:10 <wrtlprnft> #g 4/3 * 200mi in km
19:10 <spidey> could do better with a ruler, but i'm lazy
19:10 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
19:10 <wrtlprnft> #g 4/3 * 200 miles in km
19:10 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (4 / 3) * (200 miles) = 429.1584 kilometers
19:11 <Lucifer> oh fuck it
19:11 <Lucifer> The quake just before 4:37 a.m. was
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19:11 <Lucifer> that's pretty soon after it happened that you're saying something
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19:12 <Lucifer> times are reported in CST for this event, since it happened in CST
19:12 <Lucifer> now would be a good time for Dr Joe Tron to put in an appearance
19:13 <spidey> hey, i thought it was a tornado at first, we haven't really had any tremors since i've been alive :P
19:14 <spidey> btw
19:14 <spidey> lucifer, i changed my mind about going to vocational school
19:15 <spidey> the courses they have basically training to become geek squad, heh
19:15 <Lucifer> oh yeah?  what are you going to do instead?
19:15 <spidey> i'm looking at a community college close by
19:15 <spidey> oined #armagetron
19:15 <spidey> Lucifer that's pretty soon after it happened
19:16 <spidey> wtf
19:16 <spidey> http://www.jscc.edu/academics/departments/computer-information-systems/programs-of-study/software-developer-concentration.html
19:17 <Lucifer> that doesn't look too bad
19:17 <Lucifer> you'll walk through most of it
19:17 <spidey> yea
19:17 <spidey> i already know what courses i wanna do, haven't called them yet
19:19 <Lucifer> with any luck, by the time you're finished, India and China will be outsourcing all their programming to the US and the programming market will pick up again
19:20 <spidey> it's a 2 year college, i'll probably be willing to take some of their other computer courses by then
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19:21 <spidey> why do they still teach visual basics ;/
19:22 <Lucifer> don't know, but I'd be more than a tad concerned that the plan seems to be focused on windows
19:22 <spidey> well
19:22 <Lucifer> required core courses should be OS-neutral, I think
19:22 <spidey> i did find the site via microsoft IT acadamy thingy
19:22 <Lucifer> then there should be specializations available that make sense
19:23 <Lucifer> but the specializations should fall under "technical elective" courses
19:24 <spidey> i'm going to have to move in with my mom, to go their
19:24 <spidey> i don't like that, but oh well
19:25 <Lucifer> pack up a suitcase, hop a bus to Nashville or some other large city in Tennessee, and just go with it
19:25 <Lucifer> if you can put together $400 before you go, you can probably get yourself a room, then a job, then into college
19:26 <spidey> heh
19:26 <Lucifer> that's more or less what I did, except that I stayed with my sister for a few months rather than renting a room
19:26 <spidey> the $400 should just aswell be $2000
19:26 <Lucifer> you might be able to do it on less
19:26 <Lucifer> I went to Rochester, MN a few years back with just a car, a girlfriend, and some clothes
19:27 <Lucifer> got into a half-way house, and from there I got a job
19:27 <Lucifer> we didn't stick around for various reasons, but the next step was obvious: rent a room
19:27 <Lucifer> with my first paycheck, obviously
19:28 <Lucifer> it's not that hard, really, you just have to be willing to do some things, and even be willing to sleep in unusual places from time to time
19:28 <Lucifer> of course, if you can handle living with your mom for a year, you can use your position as a student to get you into a job (lots of people like to hire students)
19:28 <Lucifer> put some money away, then transfer, and do the move to a bigger school in a more orderly fashion
19:29 <spidey> oh, i can handle living with my mom
19:29 <spidey> i just don't like where she lives
19:30 <spidey> human resources sent me $159 for passing my GED O.o
19:34 <Lucifer> ok, I'm going to see if the grocery store will take back that bottle of wine now
19:36 <Lucifer> I'm not keeping a $10 bottle of wine that I can't drink!
19:40 <Lucifer> cool, they'll take it back
19:41 <Lucifer> now I need to figure out how to transport it without having it break open container laws, haha
19:42 <spidey> lmao
19:42 <spidey> put it in the trunk?
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20:09 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8412 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/ePlayer.cpp): epsy46: Fixed client always thinking he was right about it's name, it somehow didn't happen in 0.2.8, also, let's see if my name gets detected properly :P
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20:24 <noob7> what would be gramatically correct? "TV fucks your head up" or "TV fucks up your head" ?
20:33 <luke-jr> neither
20:34 <luke-jr> TV doesn't have any organs for sexual reproduction
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20:37 <K-Yo> noob7, I would more likely use the first
20:37 <K-Yo> or the second
20:38 <noob7> ok, I am not able to decide either :P
20:38 <Flex> i'm not american but I wanna vote for obama
20:38 <Flex> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j2g2axmnY8
20:38 <K-Yo> it depends on the time of the day and the weater
20:38 <K-Yo> weather*
20:38 <noob7> argh! I might have to toss a coin
20:39 <Flex> spidey, http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Quakes/us2008qza6.html
20:44 <noob7> cant anybody help me decide? :(
20:45 <Lucifer> noob7: the second
20:45 <noob7> alright! thanks lucifer :)
20:46 <Lucifer> np, always glad to help a noob
20:46 <luke-jr> heh, the worms only need to convince one innocent program to vote with them
20:47 <noob7> the problem is, this thing will go above the TV in the livingroom. I dont spend much time there anyways, but I already know whichever I choose, I will always sit there and think its wrong :P
20:47 <Lucifer> just do a picture of a frying pan with eggs in it and a caption that says "your brain watching TV"
20:48 <noob7> its more of a message towards my girlfriend, she cant stop watching these #*!? reality type shitcoms
20:49 <noob7> but thats a nice idea as well :)
20:49 <Lucifer> hmmm, my wife became pregnant when she was 17.  Does that make me evil?
20:50 <noob7> no..?
20:51 <Lucifer> http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=4680903&page=1
20:51 <Lucifer> that probably answers your unasked question
20:51 <noob7> your not a polygamist and not in a sect, so I dont see any connection besides the underage thing
20:52  * noob7 has a couple of friends that became parents when underage, most of them are "better parents" then the 30-something people with kids I know
20:53 <noob7> if you dont have a career yet, you can plan according to your kids. if you are already tied down with a job... well...
20:53 <Lucifer> they're using the underage thing to show institutionalized sexual abuse
20:53 <noob7> not saying they are happier or more fulfilled or whatever
20:53 <Lucifer> I'm a have to say it depends on too many things
20:53 <noob7> indeed, and I might be biased
20:53 <Lucifer> I know a few parents who are too old to play certain games with their kids because they waited so long
20:54 <Lucifer> so they watch me go out and play soccer with my kids
20:54 <Lucifer> otoh, I know a few parents who are my age who are just too fat and lazy to do the same things
20:55 <noob7> yeah, I know get what you are saying - some people are just not meant to become parents...
20:57 <Lucifer> I do like that my kids participate in job/career/education decisions, not just because it should help prepare them for the same decisions on their own, but also because I like to know what they think
20:58 <noob7> sounds like a healthy situation for both sides
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21:36 <Flex> monkeh
21:36 <Monkey_arma> yo yo yo
21:54 <luke-jr> hm
21:54 <luke-jr> they should lynch z-man :D
21:54 <z-man> haha
21:54 <z-man> I'LL KILL THEM ALL
21:54 <luke-jr> ☺
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21:54 <luke-jr> z-man: wanna start signups for the next game yet? :þ
21:55 <z-man> Well, it could still be that the current one will last over the weekend.
21:55 <z-man> Don't want the regular programs to get too fatalistic :)
21:56 <Lucifer> z-man: ping
21:56 <luke-jr> z-man: signups could be more than a few hours long :þ
21:56 <luke-jr> gives more people time to sign up
21:57 <z-man> they lasted over two days!
21:58 <luke-jr> well, I didn't see it until it started ☹
21:58 <luke-jr> how does it hurt to have signups last from now until whenever you decide to start it?
22:03 <Lucifer> well, I'm learning more about wine than I wanted to know, at least
22:03 <Lucifer> I traded the bad wine for a cabernet sauvignon
22:03 -!- joda_bot [n=anonymou@dslb-084-061-035-164.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #armagetron
22:03 <Lucifer> and I want to kick my own ass for saying that
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22:07 <z-man> luke-jr: it's traditional to first let the players of the current one make their post mortem.
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22:10 <Lucifer> #last --from luke-jr --nolimit
22:10 <armabot> Lucifer: [22:05:50] <luke-jr> how does it hurt to have signups last from now until whenever you decide to start it?, [22:05:33] <luke-jr> well, I didn't see it until it started ☹, [22:04:16] <luke-jr> gives more people time to sign up, [22:04:11] <luke-jr> z-man: signups could be more than a few hours long :þ, [22:02:24] <luke-jr> z-man: wanna start signups for the next game yet? :þ, [22:02:13] (21 more messages)
22:11 <Lucifer> er, signups lasted several days
22:18 <Flex> you're both very mature
22:19 <Lucifer> who?
22:19  * Lucifer didn't understand that at all
22:19 <Flex> luke-jr and you :p
22:20 <Lucifer> ah.  Just for your information, I've never heard anybody over the age of about 21 use the word "mature" in that particular context, either sarcastic or not
22:21 <Monkey_arma> flex you are not mature either...
22:22 <Monkey_arma> nor me tho
22:22 <Monkey_arma> :)
22:22 <Flex> i'm not talking about myself.. what is he on about
22:22 <Monkey_arma> ah i thought you said immature lmao
22:22 <Monkey_arma> nvm
22:22 <Monkey_arma> :)
22:22 <Monkey_arma> :|
22:23 <Lackadaisical> anyone for fort?
22:23 <Monkey_arma> YES
22:23 <Monkey_arma> can we acutally organise a match tho
22:23 <Monkey_arma> none of this waffly crap
22:24 <Lucifer> you dont' like waffles?
22:24 <Monkey_arma> i didnt say that
22:24 <Monkey_arma> i said waffly crap
22:24 <Monkey_arma> i like most food
22:24 <Lucifer> you don't like waffles made with crap?
22:24 <Monkey_arma> s/most/all/
22:25 <Lucifer> do you eat people?
22:25 <Monkey_arma> are people food?
22:25 <Flex> wow he's a comedian too
22:25 <Lucifer> YES!  People *are* food.
22:25 <Monkey_arma> then yes
22:25  * Monkey_arma grabs flex's leg and munches on it
22:25 <Flex> that's not my leg Monkey_arma
22:26 <Lackadaisical> what is waffly crap?
22:26 <Lackadaisical> is cafe waffly crap? :(
22:26 <Flex> he's talking about boring ass games
22:26 <Lucifer> ass games are not boring!
22:27 <Monkey_arma> Lackadaisical, if sick of games  that turn to shite
22:27 <Monkey_arma> *im
22:28 <Monkey_arma> i want a good game from start to finish
22:28 <Flex> hmm, that's why you always spec when i play..
22:28 <Flex> thanks
22:28 <Lucifer> you need to familiarize yourself with periodic functions
22:28 <Monkey_arma> i think we need a community double this size to get that on a regular basis maybe
22:28 <Lucifer> life doesn't happen just at the peaks, it happens across the whole function
22:28 <Lucifer> that's why it's called continuous
22:29 <Lucifer> I think the size of the community only affects the amplitude, the frequency is determined by something else
22:29 <Lucifer> usually how many people I've eaten that day
22:29  * Monkey_arma hands out medication to #armagetron residents
22:29 <Flex> Lucifer, the past is past right?
22:30 <Flex> last time i checked
22:30 <Lucifer> sure, blue is blue, too, in case you were wondering
22:30 <Flex> no i was wondering if the sky was blue
22:30 <Lucifer> the sky is sky
22:30 <Monkey_arma> again xchat lets me down..you are now all in yellow...except lack who is in green
22:31 <Flex> what colour am i?
22:31 <Lucifer> why?  am I supposed to be holding a grudge against you or something?
22:31 <Monkey_arma> YELLOW
22:31 <Lucifer> you are now all in yellow...except lack  <---
22:31 <Flex> no, not me.. but you get what i'm going at though
22:31 <Monkey_arma> hey i dont choose the colours, xchat does
22:31 <Monkey_arma> thats  the point
22:31 <Monkey_arma> they should all be different
22:31 <Lucifer> are you just asking me so I can inappropriately validate something of which I'm completely unaware?
22:32 <Lucifer> no, they should all be the same, just not yellow ;)
22:32  * Lucifer has everybody in black
22:32 <Monkey_arma> wrong
22:32 <Lucifer> bold, in fact
22:32 <Flex> i can't get into something i dunno, but i've been wondering without actually having to read the forums for hours
22:32 <Monkey_arma> set your colours  then
22:32 <Lucifer> so it stands out from the text
22:32 <Lackadaisical> im green?
22:32 <Monkey_arma> yes lack you are emeral green
22:32 <Monkey_arma> *d
22:32 <Flex> Monkey_arma, what am i?
22:32 <Lucifer> I don't want to set my colors, because it always seems to pick bright colors for people's names, which are unreadable
22:33 <Lucifer> Flex: locked out of a server for being a known smeghead on that server?
22:33 <Monkey_arma> Flex, !
22:33 <Flex> Lucifer, urm no..
22:33 <Lackadaisical> nice
22:34 <Monkey_arma> maybe xchat has highly intelligent AI that groups people together with similar personalities
22:34 <Monkey_arma> oO
22:34 <Lucifer> you just insulted everyone here except lack
22:34 <Monkey_arma> correct
22:34 <Lucifer> is that a kicking offense?
22:35 <Flex> like i said, i don't know what's happened, but it doesn't seem to be much. - i'm talking about luke-jr's and your secret
22:35 <Flex> love
22:35 <Lucifer> oh yeah, our ass games
22:35 <Flex> your both best buddies right, playing a trick on everyone
22:35 <Lucifer> I'm really his wife, and he's my bitch
22:35 <Flex> sounds nice
22:36 <Flex> can i get into that
22:36 <Lucifer> I wear a strap-on, he wears a strap-off
22:36 <Monkey_arma> you actually are scarily similar
22:36 <Flex> like butt buddies
22:38 <Flex> like us Monkey_arma
22:38 <Flex> £>
22:39 <wrtlprnft> epsy: that bug, is it the same as the one where your team always is named team blue between rounds?
22:39 <wrtlprnft> and who is epsy46?
22:40 <Monkey_arma> ok dudes match on
22:40 <Monkey_arma> pav haylin and ady want to play
22:40 <Monkey_arma> they dont have to leave early
22:41 <Monkey_arma> Flex,  yes butt buddies like us
22:41 <Flex> too late Monkey_arma.. too fucking late
22:41 <Flex> left me hanging for too long
22:41 <Monkey_arma> ok so we have me, pav, flex, lack, haylin, ady
22:41 <Monkey_arma> madmax, ping
22:41 <Monkey_arma> epsy, ping
22:42 <Monkey_arma> anyone else ping
22:42 <Monkey_arma> hoax ping
22:42 <Lucifer> #ping
22:42 <armabot> pong
22:42 <Flex> #ping
22:42 <armabot> pong
22:42 <Lucifer> #ding
22:42 <armabot> dong
22:42 <Flex> #ding
22:42 <armabot> dong
22:42 <Monkey_arma> StickyNoob, ping pong
22:42 <joda_bot> Monkey_arma: what for ?
22:42 <Monkey_arma> Lucifer,  you playing?
22:42 <Monkey_arma> we playing a match
22:42 <Lucifer> no, no cpu fan
22:42 <Monkey_arma> fort
22:42 <Flex> #bing
22:42 <Lucifer> I don't want to melt my cpu playing a game
22:42 <Monkey_arma> no fan lmao
22:42 <Flex> what happen to your fan?
22:43 <Lucifer> it broke?
22:43 <Monkey_arma> joda_bot, we play in a few minutes
22:43 <joda_bot> where ?
22:43 <Lucifer> it's a laptop, so I put it on a cooling rack and turned it to powersave
22:43 <Monkey_arma> not sure yet
22:43 <Monkey_arma> what server are we going to use?
22:43 <Monkey_arma> x ?
22:43 <Flex> sure
22:44 <Flex> are the noobs awake
22:44 <joda_bot> ok meet u there
22:44 <joda_bot> do have to play more than 2 matches ?
22:44 <Flex> 3 max
22:45 <epsy> wrtlprnft, quite possible that one is similar
22:45 <Monkey_arma> i think first to 3
22:45 <Monkey_arma> epsy  will play WONT U
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22:45 <epsy> hm?
22:45 <joda_bot> hi pavelo
22:45 <pavelo> hi
22:45  * epsy was having a tremulous game
22:45 <pavelo> wazzup
22:45 <Monkey_arma> yo yo
22:45  * epsy was quite surprised he could still easly kill turrets at the signe teeths of a dretch :)
22:45 <Monkey_arma> ok we got about 9 so far
22:46 <Monkey_arma> i  fancy a 6v6 or so
22:46 <joda_bot> lack and monkey are on fortress café should I got there ?
22:46 <epsy> do you have a serv?
22:46 <Monkey_arma> we do now you are here
22:46 <epsy> :)
22:46 <Monkey_arma> hehe
22:46 <Monkey_arma> we have many servers
22:46 <Monkey_arma> x will do
22:46 <Monkey_arma> ok so set it up and i recruit
22:47 <joda_bot> as long as I have to play on one sever (and not parallel on many ) I'm fine
22:47 <Monkey_arma> parallel?
22:47 <Monkey_arma> that will be the next april fools joke
22:47 <Monkey_arma> distributed tron or somit
22:48 <Flex> Monkey_arma,  you like hiphop?
22:48 <Monkey_arma> NO
22:48 <Flex> what you like then :p
22:48 <joda_bot> hophip
22:49  * epsy was gonna say it, thought it wasn't funny
22:49 <pavelo> actually i recall 2020 talking about P2P tron
22:49 <Monkey_arma> i like quite a few things..not hiphop or rap or cheesy chart crap
22:49 <Flex> p2p?
22:49 <Monkey_arma> yes but 2020 is a loon
22:49 <epsy> p3p?
22:49 <Flex> PSP tron..
22:49 <Flex> hmmm
22:49 <epsy> hah
22:49 <Flex> that would be decent
22:49 <pavelo> PMS tron
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22:50 <epsy> JavaTRON
22:50 <epsy> hum, nothing
22:50 <Monkey_arma> ok epsy is server up?
22:50 <epsy> it's always up
22:50 <Monkey_arma> ok take 2....
22:50 <Flex> it's hard 24/7
22:50 <Monkey_arma> is server setup for fort?
22:50 <Flex> it's hard 24/7
22:50 <epsy> Monkey_arma, no
22:50 <epsy> gna do that
22:50 <Monkey_arma> oky dokey
22:51 <Monkey_arma> and no clowns allowed
22:51 <Flex> shitshit
22:51 <Flex> so much for my clown suit..
22:52 <epsy> your lederhosen you mean
22:52 <Monkey_arma> ok we got p4 also
22:52 <Monkey_arma> looking good
22:53 <epsy> canIHasXeon?
22:53 <Flex> message rico on msn epsy
22:53 <Flex> see if he wants to play
22:54 <epsy> he's not on
22:54 <Flex> he is
22:54 <Flex> offline
22:54 <epsy> yes
22:54 <Flex> he's online but offline
22:54 <epsy> still cant send him any fucking message
22:55 <Flex> don't you have offline messaging?
22:55 <Monkey_arma> monkey promoted to badmin..i like it
22:55 <epsy> i guess msn's blocking me from doing so
22:55 <epsy> Monkey_arma, did you see my access level?
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22:56 <Monkey_arma> no
22:56 <Monkey_arma> ok epsy time to kick
22:56 <Monkey_arma> and rename server maybe
22:56 <Monkey_arma> let them finish match
22:56 <Monkey_arma> ok done
22:57 <epsy> wrtlprnft, team red bug!
22:58 <wrtlprnft> epsy: ?
22:58 <epsy> you know, when you have two teams and they aren't blue and gold
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22:59 <Monkey_arma> wb
22:59 <wrtlprnft> epsy: what bug?
22:59 <Lackadaisical> ty
22:59 <wrtlprnft> did you switch the server to sumo while a game was running?
22:59 <Monkey_arma> ok now i seen it epsy
22:59 <hoax> Monkey_arma, pong
22:59 <epsy> exactly, well, from* sumo
23:00 <epsy> Monkey_arma, *HINT* /players admin
23:00 <hoax> #tea
23:00 <armabot> hoax: Fortress Café: Players (2/32): /dev/null/h4ck, DPM
23:00 <hoax> #x
23:00 <armabot> hoax: ¦×¦.Fortress.Server: Players (11/16): Blackbird (Hay-Lin@forums), CTxP4 (P4@crazy-tronners.com), dark, Lackadaisical (Lackadaisical@forums), Monkey (monkey@L_OP), pavelo (pavelo@forums), TrT~Dark-69, wrtlprnft |mbc| (wrtlprnft@forums), ~*SP*~joda.bot (joda.bot@forums), ¦×¦ Flex, ¦×¦epsy (epsy@x)
23:01 <Monkey_arma> ah hoax
23:01 <Monkey_arma> get arse in x server
23:01 <hoax> mmm inabit
23:02 <hoax> lack can win for a while
23:02 <hoax> hah even wrtlpwnds there
23:04 <wrtlprnft> i just kicked myself
23:04 <Monkey_arma> oO
23:04 <epsy> wrtlprnft, unbanned
23:05 <wrtlprnft> i'm tired
23:06 <Monkey_arma> hoax mooove u ass
23:07 <Monkey_arma> we need one more person as well..last call
23:07 <Monkey_arma> we "want"
23:07 <epsy> hay?
23:07 <Monkey_arma> hay what?
23:07 <epsy> hay-lin
23:07 <Monkey_arma> haylin is playing yes
23:07 <Monkey_arma> asked her ages ago
23:07 <epsy> then.. wrtlprnft ?
23:07 <epsy> or wrtlprnft_opera :P
23:08 <wrtlprnft> nah, i can't, sorry
23:08 <Monkey_arma> ok i get ady
23:08 <wrtlprnft> i kicked myself because of those Admin: please leave messages by the way
23:08 <epsy> not ady PLEASE
23:08 <wrtlprnft> haha
23:08 <wrtlprnft> maybe take Armagetron or GLTron?
23:10 <hoax> Monkey_arma, where u at
23:10 <Monkey_arma> getting ady
23:10 <Monkey_arma> from ctwf
23:10 <epsy> no no no no
23:10 <Monkey_arma> he wont come he has issues
23:11 <epsy> thx issues
23:11 <Monkey_arma> ah i take it you dont get on with him
23:11 <Monkey_arma> i mentioned x server and he changed his mind hmm
23:12 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/sc/osiris-200804182318.png
23:14 <Lackadaisical> isnt madmax around?
23:14  * luke-jr shoots pippijn
23:14 <pippijn> luke-jr: why?
23:14 <Monkey_arma> great my arma aint working..restart..back in 3
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23:15 <pippijn> luke-jr: http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/sc/osiris-200804182320.png
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23:18 <Monkey_arma> raiden
23:18 <Monkey_arma> match now
23:19 <Raiden> ok
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23:20 <wrtlprnft> pippijn: you really have a lot of time to waste
23:20 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: no
23:20 <pippijn> I'm just really tired
23:20 <pippijn> and I can't sleep
23:34 <madmax> o_O DVD-D http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/04/18/europes.erasing.dvd.ds/
23:35 <madmax> Lackadaisical: can't play right now
23:37 <luke-jr> madmax: I recommend making a backup of all DVDs before watching them ☺
23:38  * luke-jr notes there is no contract when you purchase these that you are only licensing it for X hours
23:38 <luke-jr> therefore, your fair use rights to make a backup are still valid
23:38 <luke-jr> and your backup copy legal
23:44 <epsy> are core dump messages good examples for messages with a colored player name in it? :P
23:48  * epsy pings z-man
23:48 <z-man> I think so.
23:48 <z-man> Feel free to factor anything common you find out.
23:49 <epsy> the 'default' color is defined on clients or are networked?
23:50 <z-man> It's clientside, I think.
23:50 <z-man> (what do you mean by default color?)
23:51 <epsy> 0xRESETT
23:51 <z-man> Yes, that is clientside.
23:51 <epsy> currently, what do they do with it?
23:52 <z-man> Depends on the context. In console output, it is white.
23:54 <wrtlprnft> epsy: it's defined on the client
23:55 <wrtlprnft> epsy: note that in menus (like the server browser) 0xffffff is white, while 0xRESETT is flashing red-white
23:56 <Flex> wrtlprnft, how about +1 for using an enemy hole?
23:57 <Flex> or giving them -1
23:57 <Flex> wrtlprnft, wrtlprnft wrtlprnft what you think
23:58 <epsy> hm, strange
23:58 <epsy>  /admin console_message something0xff00ffGcc 0xRESETThas been invited to join ¦×¦epsy
23:59 <epsy> produces fully puink text
23:59 <wrtlprnft> shouldn't

Log from 2008-04-19:
--- Day changed Sat Apr 19 2008
00:00 <wrtlprnft> Flex: i don't know, that would require a whole lot more config items
00:00 <wrtlprnft> anyways, i'm going to bed.
00:00 <epsy> while on local console, it only shows the pink on Gcc
00:00 <epsy> gn
00:03 <Flex> gn
00:03 <wrtlprnft> epsy: just tried in a local game, it worked just fine
00:03  * wrtlprnft is really gone now
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00:24 <epsy> Monkey_arma, finished?
00:24 <Durka> epsy_arma, done?
00:24 <Flex> epsy, yes, and nothing needs to be done
00:25 <Flex> wait actually it's still at /16
00:25 <pippijn> luke-jr: how do you write the ??
00:25 <Monkey_arma> epsy, yes
00:26 <Monkey_arma> there just arent enough people around to get a truly decent game of tron...i think 4v4 is fun for a change but really 6v6 is the minimum fofr fun...forget about the benefits of lag with 4v4
00:27 <Flex> 4v4 is fun.. it's not about the lag or anything along those lines
00:28 <Lackadaisical> teams just werent that even this time
00:28 <Flex> i'd rather play 4v4 now rather then 6v6 7v7 ect
00:28 <Flex> i've got bored of it tbh
00:28 <Flex> it was unfair Lackadaisical, but i did try..
00:29 <Flex> well you did too
00:29 <Lackadaisical> yes.. i was waiting to get accepted
00:33 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8413 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/tools/tString.cpp): epsy46: 0xRESETT will only be filtered when full filters are on, fixing the /invite message bug.
00:34 <Monkey_arma> it didnt help that  i am shit
00:34 <Flex> you're not shit Monkey_arma :p
00:34 <Monkey_arma> heh
00:34 <Flex> you guys just didn't have an attack lol
00:34 <Monkey_arma> well when i sort this upgrade out i cant get any worse
00:36 <Monkey_arma> it was ok tho
00:36 <Monkey_arma> the game
00:36 <Monkey_arma> we will do it again but try to get more players and make even teams
00:37 <Monkey_arma> i think 4v4 is less fun but there we go
00:38 <Flex> i find it's more competitive or "fresh"
00:38 <Monkey_arma> fresh yes it is
00:38 <Monkey_arma> but firstly it shows up team inbalance more..like today
00:38 <Monkey_arma> and also there is less to it..imho
00:39 <Flex> i totally disagree
00:39 <Flex> you're running out of people to kill Monkey_arma ? lol
00:39 <Monkey_arma> :)
00:39  * Monkey_arma gets out the minigun kabam
00:39  * epsy has no clue on how to marge anything :/
00:40 <Monkey_arma> neither do i...
00:40 <Monkey_arma> as in simpson or?
00:40 <epsy> merge*
00:40 <Flex> you think she's hawt?
00:40 <Monkey_arma> oh ye she foxeh
00:40 <Flex> you'd fuck a cartoon?
00:41 <Monkey_arma> hehe
00:41 <Flex> kinky fella
00:42 <Flex> what you listen to Monkey_arma? country? ;p
00:42 <Monkey_arma> no i wouldnt of course
00:42 <Monkey_arma> ok add country to the hiphop,rap and cheese list
00:42 <Flex> ok so what then
00:43 <Monkey_arma> well i dont listen to much at the mo but i like house, hard rock/metal, 70's, 80,s, techno, and more
00:44 <Flex> trance and dance ayehhhhhhhhhhh
00:45 <Monkey_arma> u?
00:45 <Flex> lol
00:45  * epsy is gonna kick his cat in the face
00:46 <Flex> rap, trance[house,techo], dnb, alt rock, metal rock
00:46 <Flex> everything actually
00:47 <Flex> apart from country and stuff
00:47 <Monkey_arma> dnb is good
00:48 <MaZuffeR> grindcore is teh shit
00:48 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8414 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/tools/tString.cpp): epsy46: manual merge of 0.2.8:810, because i don't have a clue on how to do that and everyone is sleeping :)
00:48 <Flex> hehe
00:48 <madmax> lol
00:50 <madmax> Flex: i hope that with 'trance[house,techno]' you're not implying house is a subset of trance
00:50 <Flex> ofcourse not
00:50 <Flex> just wanted to put them close :p
00:50 <madmax> anyway, trance sucks :-D
00:50 <Flex> pff
00:50 <MaZuffeR> speaking of techno: http://xkcd.com/411/
00:50 <Flex> have you heard proper trance
00:51 <Durka> madmax: homemade mac builds ftw! durkas.info/mac
00:51 <madmax> i don't like trance/techno...
00:51  * Durka made them in his basement :O
00:51 <Flex> hhaha Monkey_arma
00:51 <madmax> windowless basement Durka?
00:51 <Durka> ja!
00:52 <Flex> madmax.. you don't like techno.. wtf
00:52  * Durka knows that madmax is the worm
00:52 <Durka> dude techno is for ppl that have G.D.
00:52 <Flex> what's wrong with you..
00:52 <madmax> i like house a lot though
00:52 <Monkey_arma> proper trance is druggy music
00:52 <Monkey_arma> no tune
00:53 <Flex> proper trance is sweet
00:53 <Durka> G.D. = gay disorder btw
00:53 <epsy> so that's why ddl is down?
00:54 <Durka> guys guys, we have an upcoming comedian in the channel
00:54 <Durka> everyone please welcome Jacque-Louis-Franco! (aka epsy)
00:54 <Monkey_arma> epsy, what is up with your cat? seeing as you are french..why dont u just eat it...
00:55 <epsy> i'm french not chinese
00:55 <Flex> or surrender to it
00:55 <Flex> sorry
00:55 <Flex> can't help it
00:55 <Flex> lol
00:58 <hoax> <Lackadaisical> yes.. i was waiting to get accepted
00:58 <hoax> ?
00:58 <Lackadaisical> i changed teams but i couldnt
00:58 <Flex> he needed someone in red to accept
00:58 <hoax> i invited you to red
00:58 <Monkey_arma> lol @ MaZuffeR
00:58 <hoax> think monkey got there first though
00:58 <Monkey_arma> allthough thats more like trance
00:58 <Flex> i told Monkey_arma to join ugly
00:58  * hoax blames monkey
00:59 <Monkey_arma> :(
00:59 <hoax> lol our team sucked mostly
00:59 <Flex> i thought raidan would to far worse, that's why i said "fuck it"
00:59 <Flex> do^
00:59 <Monkey_arma> he is very good
00:59 <hoax> raiden was like the best player lmao
00:59 <hoax> why couldnt he play like that last night....
00:59 <madmax> is that guy actually the one from wir or something?
00:59 <Flex> he was defending.. you guys had no attack
01:00 <Flex> ex wir
01:00 <hoax> haha grindcore
01:00 <Flex> hoax, he had "nervous" issues
01:00 <hoax> carcass ftw
01:01 <hoax> well monkey & joda were attacking lol
01:01 <Flex> and you kept dying.. (as usual) and blackbird is a girl so :p
01:01 <Monkey_arma> our team sucked
01:01 <epsy> that spec was an idiot
01:01 <Monkey_arma> and yours had no weakness
01:02 <Monkey_arma> damn that spec who the hell was he anyway
01:02 <Flex> raidan was a weakness.. no doubt
01:02 <Monkey_arma> wrong
01:02 <hoax> as usual? pff
01:02 <Flex> wrong? urm.. if he was left alone we would of lost quite afew rounds
01:02 <hoax> raiden was good
01:02 <epsy> a fucking bastard admin from hell :O
01:02 <Flex> he can't handle long periods of attack or more then 1 guy
01:03 <hoax> not like you didnt have sweepers on your team
01:03 <hoax> lack...pav
01:03 <Monkey_arma> how long has raiden been playing?
01:03 <hoax> i agree epsy, who was that orange noob?
01:03 <epsy> :D
01:03 <madmax> #firstseen raiden
01:04 <hoax> xD
01:04 <Flex> #firstseen flex
01:04 <madmax> :(
01:04 <epsy> #epsy
01:04 <hoax> like yesterday max lol
01:04 <Flex> #flex
01:04 <epsy> :)
01:04 <epsy> #stalk Flex
01:04 <Flex> #rating flex
01:04 <armabot> Flex: flex is 467th with a rating of 1586-1636 (from 1588-1634)
01:04 <madmax> #slap Flex
01:04 <armabot> madmax slaps Flex for being a raving moron.
01:04 <epsy> #last --with #alias add
01:04 <Flex> jeez
01:04 <armabot> epsy: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; (1 more message)
01:05 <epsy> #last --with "#alias add"
01:05 <armabot> epsy: [01:12:20] <epsy> #last --with #alias add
01:05 <epsy> ...
01:05 <madmax> :D
01:05 <epsy> #last --with "#alias add" --nolimit
01:05 <armabot> epsy: [01:12:35] <epsy> #last --with "#alias add", [01:12:20] <epsy> #last --with #alias add, [18:02:51] <luke-jr> #alias add stalk "echo [lastseen $1] | [rating $1] | [last --from $1]", and [16:18:00] <madmax> #alias add ls lastseen
01:05 <Flex> madmax, i thought you'd like techno
01:06 <epsy> #alias add stalk "echo [lastseen $1] | [rating $1] | [last --from $1]
01:06 <hoax> #flex
01:06 <armabot> epsy: Error: No closing quotation
01:06 <armabot> hoax: HOLYDRAGONSHIT seems to be on |FA| BLACK ICE right now.
01:06 <hoax> lol!
01:06 <epsy> #stalk Flex
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01:06 <Flex> #fuck you mumfucks
01:06 <Flex> bum^
01:06 <hoax> ye i fucked your mum
01:06 <madmax> why Flex?
01:06 <epsy> #alias add stalk "echo [lastseen $1] | [rating $1] | [last --from $1]"
01:06 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
01:06 <epsy> #stalk Flex
01:06 <Your_mom_arma> `:-\
01:06 <Flex> hoax i fucked your mums face
01:06 <armabot> ¦×¦ Flex has last been seen on ¦×¦.Team.Sumo.Server 49 minutes ago. | flex is 467th with a rating of 1586-1636 (from 1588-1634) | bum^
01:07 <Flex> in the eye
01:07 <hoax> i necro'd your sis
01:07 <Flex> i necro'd your dad
01:07 <epsy> #stalk hoax
01:07 <armabot> ¦×¦ Hoax has last been seen on ¦×¦.Team.Sumo.Server 50 minutes ago. | hoax is 1600th with a rating of 1520-1582 (from 1464-1556) | i necro'd your sis
01:07 <hoax> so did mr evil guy
01:07 <epsy> :PPPP
01:07 <Your_mom_arma> how old are you kids?
01:07 <hoax> :D
01:07 <Flex> so did your bro
01:07 <hoax> just using his own medicine mom
01:08 <Flex> my own medicine? huh.. you coming down my level right :((
01:08 <hoax> yea u seem to leik it tho :|
01:08 <Monkey_arma> madmax, i understand trance but why not techno? some is good..the tuneful stuff..
01:08 <Flex> i can say it to a face, but can you? :p
01:09 <Monkey_arma> a lot is crap tho..
01:09 <hoax> roflmao
01:09 <Monkey_arma> Your_mom_arma, they are only messing
01:09 <hoax> when do you ever see faces? :D
01:09 <Monkey_arma> not kids :)
01:09 <hoax> youtube doesnt count
01:09 <Flex> hoax thinks he has a life because he works down mcd's
01:09 <hoax> rofl fuck that, too far away id work somewhere closer
01:09 <Flex> tossing burgers isn't a job son
01:10 <hoax> son? im older than u ;)
01:10 <madmax> well, i don't know much actually, but i usually don't like what i hear
01:10 <Flex> older then me?
01:10 <hoax> trance IS a form of techno, no?
01:10 <Flex> you must be under developed then SON
01:10 <Monkey_arma> a lot is bad...same with house and other dance music....but the good is good
01:10 <Flex> yeah it is
01:10 <Flex> so is house
01:10 <hoax> orly flex
01:11 <hoax> how old u now
01:11 <Flex> you don't know but you're saying you're older?
01:11 <hoax> fofo <3 house :|
01:11 <madmax> btw, free, usually good, house podcast: http://www.deephousecat.com/
01:11 <hoax> dude i know from what u said a while ago
01:12 <Flex> it's like heavy rock might not appeal to someone who likes alt rock
01:12 <hoax> its alright though if you dont wana be emabarassed
01:12 <Flex> emabarrased? of what my age?
01:12 <Flex> i'm 19
01:12  * hoax pushes more buttons
01:12  * hoax gets point proven
01:13 <Flex> you're asking my age is what is not worthy of an answer
01:13  * hoax takes rights of 'son' from flex
01:13 <hoax> Monkey_arma u got speakers?
01:14 <madmax> at least get an arma themed discussion, like "i grind tighter than you man!", not "i'm older than you". that's umm, old
01:14 <Monkey_arma> ive got a stereo but its not on the computer
01:14 <Monkey_arma> i have some small shitty speakers
01:14 <Monkey_arma> for the comp
01:14 <Monkey_arma> not sure if all sound is setup tho
01:14 <Flex> he hit 20 afew weeks ago and he think's he's got a pension
01:15 <epsy> makes me remember i should call philips :P
01:15 <z-man> Argh, do I read "manual merge"???
01:15 <hoax> not really, you just dont have the respect t call anyone son
01:15 <Durka> #stalk durka
01:15 <armabot> Durkagurl seems to be on  Wild West  =Team Sumo= right now. | durka is 2964th with a rating of 1465-1503 (from 1459-1496) | #stalk durka
01:15 <hoax> rofl
01:15 <Durka> :O
01:15 <hoax> sashori
01:15 <Flex> ??
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01:16 <epsy> z-man, trunk $ bzr merge -r 686 revno:810:../0.2.8/
01:16 <epsy> Nothing to do.
01:16 <epsy> that's what it gave me :/
01:17 <Monkey_arma> well...its cheesecake time
01:17 <epsy> mmm
01:17 <z-man> you're not supposed to merge 0.2.8 to the trunk in bzr.....
01:17 <Flex> z-man, you should fuck epsy for doing that
01:17 <epsy> Flex, point is, i didn't do it :P
01:17 <hoax> what do you do?
01:17 <z-man> Well, I'll see about that when I do the proper merge with svn :)
01:18 <Flex> don't forget to record.. we'd like to watch
01:19 <epsy> good night
01:19 <Monkey_arma> cu
01:19 <Flex> gn
01:19 <hoax> gn
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01:22 <hoax> Durka is www.google.com down?
01:22 <Durka> nope
01:23 <Durka> www.epsn.com works
01:23 <hoax> hmm
01:23 <Durka> epsn*
01:23 <Durka> ep=sn
01:23 <Durka> espn******
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01:29 <Monkey_arma> oO
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01:35 <madmax> does 'complex analysis' sound good to anyone?
01:36 <MaZuffeR> define "good"?
01:37 <Flex> MaZuffeR, do you like soad?
01:38 <MaZuffeR> yeah, why?
01:38 <madmax> physicists aren't allowed to answer sorry :-P
01:38 <MaZuffeR> aw
01:38 <Flex> just wondering
01:39 <MaZuffeR> seems like a quite random thing to wonder a about
01:39 <MaZuffeR> -a
01:39 <Flex> heavy metal and soad.. was wondering if it mixed
01:40 <MaZuffeR> the grindcore thing was a joke :)
01:40 <Flex> oh
01:40 <MaZuffeR> i like pretty much every kind of music
01:42 <Monkey_arma> even cheesy chart music?
01:42 <Monkey_arma> complex analysis? of what?
01:43 <MaZuffeR> define "cheesy chart music"
01:43 <Flex> cheesy
01:43 <Flex> chart
01:43 <Flex> music
01:43 <hoax> i like girls alloud
01:43 <Monkey_arma> !
01:43 <madmax> it's a branch of mathematics Monkey_arma
01:43 <Monkey_arma> ok
01:44 <Monkey_arma> examples of cheesy..
01:44 <Monkey_arma> vnegaboys
01:44 <Monkey_arma> er vengaboys
01:44 <Monkey_arma> 5
01:44 <Monkey_arma> boyzone
01:44 <Monkey_arma> kylie
01:45 <hoax> haha f5ve
01:45 <Monkey_arma> westlife
01:45 <MaZuffeR> ok, i don't like any of those
01:45 <madmax> stop hurting people's eyes monkey
01:45 <hoax> reading through your collection?
01:45 <Flex> where did you get my list Monkey_arma ..
01:47 <Monkey_arma> hurting eyes with 2020 style or with bad bad music groups?
01:47 <madmax> bad music groups of course
01:47 <Monkey_arma> flex i just went to your website
01:47 <Monkey_arma> or both ;)
01:47 <hoax> 2
01:47 <hoax> 0
01:47 <hoax> 2
01:47 <hoax> 0
01:47 <hoax> ?
01:47 <Monkey_arma> c
01:47 <Monkey_arma> o
01:47 <Monkey_arma>  
01:47 <Monkey_arma> n
01:47 <Monkey_arma>   
01:47 <Monkey_arma>  
01:47 <Flex> did you watch my vid on hoax's mum?
01:47 <Monkey_arma> c
01:47 <Monkey_arma>  
01:47 <Monkey_arma> o
01:47 <Monkey_arma>  
01:47 <Monkey_arma> r
01:47 <Monkey_arma>  
01:47 <Monkey_arma>  
01:47 <Monkey_arma>  
01:48 <Monkey_arma>  d
01:48 <Monkey_arma> oO no
01:48 <Monkey_arma> i was on his dad
01:48 <ct|kyle> Monkey_arma: STFU n00b
01:48 <madmax> do you guys know "fado"?
01:48 <Monkey_arma> kyle..get a clan
01:48  * ct|kyle is in a clan
01:49 <hoax> flex didnt think u were into the whole getting shat on thing
01:49 <Monkey_arma> fado?
01:50 <Monkey_arma> ct|kyle, that is debatable
01:50 <madmax> it's a music genre traditionally portuguese
01:50 <Monkey_arma> like portuguese folk or?
01:51 <madmax> er no? sample: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHzaIK8fGVg
01:53 <madmax> it's quite unique
01:53  * Monkey_arma must get flash plugin soon
01:53 <madmax> just wondering if you knew it :P
01:53 <Monkey_arma> never heard of it
01:53 <Monkey_arma> ah i'll see if i can put plugin on now
01:53 <Flex> what's she saying
01:54 <Flex> english or gtfo!
01:54 <Durka> haha
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01:56 <madmax> heh
01:56 <hoax> is that like a portugese annie lennox?
01:56 <MaZuffeR> madmax, yeah, I've heard about it before
01:57 <hoax> lol ive one portugese song ftw
01:59 <madmax> ?
02:00 <hoax> lol i lied its just called 'portugal'
02:01 <madmax> from who?
02:03 <hoax> wow youtube has everythig
02:03 <hoax> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD_3p-uGHaM
02:04 <Monkey_arma> great i got the plugin but firefox dont seem to realise
02:04 <Monkey_arma> and its crashed lol
02:09 <madmax> good night
02:09 <Monkey_arma> cu
02:10 <hoax> nite
02:25 <Flex> hey
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02:45 <Your_mom_arma> #ping
02:45 <armabot> pong
02:49 <luke-jr> #later tell Durka if you don't email me teh configs, I'll tell everyone that you're a worm
02:49 <armabot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
02:52 <Your_mom_arma> luke-jr: games over
02:52 <luke-jr> Your_mom_arma: ☺
02:52 <Flex> he meant "you've got the worms"
02:52 <luke-jr> Your_mom_arma: I meant the 2nd game
02:52 <luke-jr> XD
02:52 <Your_mom_arma> so luke you suspected lucifer and lacks right?
02:52 <luke-jr> no
02:53 <Flex> who was it
02:53 <Flex> Lucifer, and durka?
02:53 <Your_mom_arma> ma and maz
02:53 <Your_mom_arma> me and maz
02:53 <Flex> they're so retarded
02:53 <luke-jr> I suspected Jonathan and Tank first
02:53 <luke-jr> because Tank defended him
02:54 <luke-jr> I forget which 2 I suspected mid-game
02:54 <luke-jr> last person I suspected was Your_mom_arma
02:54 <Your_mom_arma> :D
02:54 <Your_mom_arma> I think we did pretty good
02:54 <Monkey_arma> was it really random?
02:54 <fonkay> somehow I was almost right on from the start
02:54 <luke-jr> you were too quiet
02:54 <Your_mom_arma> fonkay, which is exactly why we didn't kill you night 1
02:55 <luke-jr> lol
02:55 <luke-jr> Your_mom_arma: it didn't work ☺
02:55 <luke-jr> nobody even thought of that possibility
02:55 <fonkay> I had maz and lack as the worms, with you as a possible third.
02:55 <hoax> <fonkay> somehow I was almost right on from the start
02:55 <hoax> <luke-jr> you were too quiet
02:55 <Your_mom_arma> I blame z-man, I think we could have won if he didn't reveal their was 2 of us
02:55  * hoax agrees 100%
02:56 <luke-jr> Your_mom_arma: it was obvious
02:56 <luke-jr> pretty sure everyone was saying 2 or 3
02:56 <luke-jr> and 3 would be too many
02:56 <luke-jr> since TWG generally goes to 2 wolves at 8 players
02:56 <luke-jr> and the game only had 9
02:56 <fonkay> I had either you or luci as the firewall (if you weren't a worm) and jon as the scanner/vig (which apparently there wasn't one.)
02:56 <Your_mom_arma> I thought I gave it away so many times
02:57 <luke-jr> you signing up for game 2?
02:57 <fonkay> You did to me.. but not really on the posts.
02:57 <fonkay> You fucked yourself over talking to me
02:57 <Your_mom_arma> asking fonkay if she was the vigilante big mistake
02:57 <luke-jr> lol
02:58 <Your_mom_arma> if I wasn't a worm I would have allied with fonkay
02:58 <fonkay> I had all the reg programs right (except for lacks) on the very firsy cycle
02:58 <Your_mom_arma> I had all the specials right by the end of the first day but lacks
02:58 <fonkay> was jon a lucky shot?
02:59 <Your_mom_arma> pretty much
02:59 <Your_mom_arma> although even if maz was n't a worm he was forced to vote for him
02:59 <Your_mom_arma> because of lacks
02:59 <luke-jr> fonkay: change yer stinkin 'yes'
03:00 <fonkay> why?
03:00 <luke-jr> make it a 'no'
03:00 <luke-jr> I wanna play
03:00 <fonkay> zman said no.
03:00 <luke-jr> f u
03:00 <fonkay> no luke's allowed.
03:00 <luke-jr> f u
03:00 <luke-jr> f u
03:01 <fonkay> well that's not very nice of you..
03:01 <fonkay> fine... you can play.
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03:02 <fonkay> But just so you know, everyone who played the first game already made a deal to lynch you first cycle
03:02 <luke-jr> jerks
03:02 <fonkay> so you'd better hope you get firewall
03:02 <Your_mom_arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=196404#196404
03:02 <luke-jr> firewall can't stop a lynching
03:02 <fonkay> oh yea... poor luke
03:04 <fonkay> nice mom
03:04 <fonkay> ok, smoke break... bbi5
03:06 <Your_mom_arma> does luci know he's won?
03:06 <luke-jr> he hasn't
03:07 <luke-jr> I just killed him
03:07 <luke-jr> :D
03:08 <Your_mom_arma> luke-jr: no offenc but you're likely to be voted off the first round
03:08 <Monkey_arma> oO
03:09 <luke-jr> Your_mom_arma: f u too
03:09 <luke-jr> I'll probably be the Firewall then
03:09 <noob7> monkey are you playing next round?
03:09 <noob7> or does the fear of going batshit insane like these guys have you wondering?
03:10 <Monkey_arma> yes i fear going even madder than i am
03:10 <Monkey_arma> i might join forums then pllay
03:10 <noob7> me too...
03:10 <Monkey_arma> i'll think about it
03:11 <noob7> whats the deadline for signups?
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03:12 <noob7> why do I always manage to shut the chan up? /me grumbles and goes to the basement to sit in a corner
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03:15 <fonkay> there is no official deadline yet... you'd have to ask zman i suppose.
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03:15 <fonkay> maybe by the end of the weekend? but who knows
03:17 <noob7> ok, so I have a couple more hours to decide. thanks fonkay.
03:18 <luke-jr> to decide⁇
03:18 <luke-jr> what's to decide?
03:18 <noob7> if I have the time and energy to kill all of you while pretending to not be the wolf
03:19 <fonkay> *worm
03:19 <noob7> *wereworm
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03:19 <noob7> wb monkey man
03:19 <Monkey_arma> ty and grrrrrrrr to crashing again
03:20 <noob7> maybe you should just setup a paypal donate button and give us your address so we can send you spare computer parts
03:20 <Flex> :D
03:20 <noob7> unless you would sell those to score more mousetraps in your attemp of mouse genocide
03:21 <Flex> he's clearly living under a opera house
03:21 <Flex> n
03:21 <Monkey_arma> heh
03:21 <Monkey_arma> i will upgrade in the next two weeks no matter what
03:21 <noob7> yay!
03:22 <Monkey_arma> that was debian anyway not my comp
03:22 <Monkey_arma> i'll splash out...hey i'll even have 3D accel
03:23 <Flex> wow don't go over the top now :p
03:23 <noob7> dont feel obliged to upgrade just because :P
03:23 <Monkey_arma> i dont...i am getting so angry with crap fps
03:23 <Flex> yeah all his tron buddies have the latest stuff so Monkey_arma has to keep up :p
03:23 <Monkey_arma> oO
03:24 <Monkey_arma> latest stuff lol u dont
03:24 <Monkey_arma> you got better than me tho
03:24 <Flex> haha, i was refering to the other buddies :p
03:24  * noob7 doesnt have a even decent setup either
03:24 <Monkey_arma> so was i
03:24 <Monkey_arma> :)
03:24 <Monkey_arma> p4 was moaning about his too
03:24 <Monkey_arma> we will have a mass upgradefest
03:25 <noob7> heh p4 is grateful to have his internet back :P
03:25 <Monkey_arma> me too!
03:25 <noob7> ;)
03:25 <Flex> sticky has quad core
03:25 <Monkey_arma> !
03:25 <Flex> the hoe.. he uses his shitty laptop
03:25 <Monkey_arma> he must be loaded
03:25 <Monkey_arma> quad core laptop ftl
03:26 <Flex> no his laptop is shitty
03:26 <Flex> or something
03:26 <Monkey_arma> ah
03:26 <Flex> he just plays arma on his laptop
03:26 <noob7> I think flex was saying he has a quadcore BUT uses his laptop
03:26 <noob7> argh beaten
03:26 <Flex> yes i win
03:26 <Flex> kkthxbai
03:26 <Monkey_arma> i have a shitty laptop
03:26 <Monkey_arma> wait for the specs.....hold on tight
03:26  * noob7 hugs himself tightly
03:27 <Monkey_arma> p2-366mhz cpu lol........builtin gfx
03:27  * Flex same^^
03:27 <Flex> aw damn your line got in the way of our hug
03:27 <Monkey_arma> 6 gig HD
03:27 <noob7> OUR hug?
03:27 <noob7> Oo
03:27 <noob7> monkey, that thing should be able to be used as a calculator, no?
03:27 <noob7> or maybe a lamp...
03:27 <Monkey_arma> and....wait for it......infra red
03:27 <Flex> yes.. i joined in your hug so it becomes our hug
03:28 <Flex> you can't own a hug pal
03:28 <noob7> you cant decide about MY hugs ... honestly, who are you to say what I can do with MY hugs and what not?
03:29 <Flex> holy mother fucking shit dude! you have infra red!!
03:29 <noob7> monkey arma, I remember using my dads laptop years ago to update my phonebook on a cellphone with infrared
03:29 <noob7> how long has bluetooth been around?
03:30 <Monkey_arma> a long time
03:30 <Flex> n00b7 says my humour is pure sarcasm lol
03:30 <Flex> wth :((
03:30 <noob7> masked tho
03:30 <noob7> :P
03:31 <Flex> lol shall i be offended or insulted?
03:31 <Monkey_arma> BUT if i cba to I can use my laptop as a remote for my tv...how many of u can do that?
03:31 <Monkey_arma> i think thats a compliment
03:31 <noob7> arroused flex
03:31 <Monkey_arma> er....
03:32 <Flex> urm Monkey_arma i have a blu ray
03:32 <Flex> you can keep your remote :D
03:32 <Monkey_arma> does that use blue rays to change the channel?
03:32 <Monkey_arma> i dont think so
03:32 <Flex> 1080p channels are good yes :p
03:32 <noob7> true you could use it as calculator, lamp AND remote
03:32 <noob7> now your bragging flex
03:33 <Flex> did you say HD?
03:33 <noob7> hehehe
03:33 <noob7> I wish :(
03:33 <noob7> but then again I wouldnt be able to even afford the discs, meh
03:33 <Monkey_arma> i have vhs...so there
03:33 <Flex> what is this vhs you talk of
03:34 <noob7> I dont, and my TV is smaller than my 21" so pff
03:34 <Flex> i've played arma on my tv
03:34 <Flex> kinda nice
03:34 <Monkey_arma> oO
03:34 <Monkey_arma> how?
03:34 <Flex> hooked up comp to it
03:34 <Monkey_arma> maybe i could do that
03:34 <Monkey_arma> i have a 28" tv
03:35 <Monkey_arma> unless you are from the tv licensing..in which case i have no tv
03:35 <Flex> lol
03:35 <noob7> :P
03:36 <Monkey_arma> :\
03:36 <noob7> how much would official licensing be?
03:36 <Flex> around 100 a year
03:36 <Monkey_arma> more
03:36 <noob7> I have no clue what it would be here, I never bothered to even check...
03:36 <Flex> how do they prove you are watching tv?
03:37 <Monkey_arma> they cant
03:37 <Monkey_arma> even the vans cant
03:37 <noob7> they cant :P
03:37 <Monkey_arma> someone told me they are empty
03:37 <Flex> so how do they bring you to court
03:37 <Monkey_arma> tv is passive
03:37 <Flex> or fine you
03:37 <Monkey_arma> if you open the door....fuckede
03:37 <Flex> that's all?
03:37 <Flex> open the door?
03:37 <Flex> so what
03:37 <Monkey_arma> they will say can we come in
03:37 <Flex> you mean if you let them check?
03:37 <Flex> so if you say no?
03:38 <noob7> you can say no
03:38 <Monkey_arma> if you say no they go to the courts i think
03:38 <Flex> and come back with what
03:38 <noob7> but the thing is, they use all kinds of tricks because the inspectors are paid comission
03:38 <noob7> so they might ring and ask to use your phone because their car broke down
03:38 <Flex> noob7 i think it's different over here
03:38 <Monkey_arma> maybe a thing that lets them check ..but they must have police withthm
03:38 <noob7> or whatever
03:38  * noob7 is really paranoid about the GEZ
03:38 <Monkey_arma> GEZ?
03:39 <Flex> they can't use that bullshit lines over here
03:39 <Flex> they'd get fucked
03:39 <noob7> the place that wants money for TV and radio licensing (as well as PCs "capable to receive and play back sound from the internet")
03:39 <Monkey_arma> ye they cant do dodgy shit
03:39 <noob7> not officially they cant
03:39 <noob7> prove they wont...
03:39 <Flex> they wont
03:39 <Flex> this is bbc
03:39 <Monkey_arma> a lot of homes in uk dont have license
03:39 <Flex> bbc isn't your fox news lol
03:40 <noob7> <- german
03:40 <Monkey_arma> they just send letters to scare people
03:40 <Monkey_arma> most people are ignorannt
03:40 <Flex> my mate barely can afford his rent and shit
03:40 <Monkey_arma> yep
03:40 <Monkey_arma> just dont answer the door
03:40 <Monkey_arma> and no issues
03:40 <Flex> pays tv license.. and when i told him don't he started giving me this shit about the vans
03:40 <Monkey_arma> there are sites about it..they are all scaremongering
03:40 <fkeaz> hi Monkey_arma do i know u?
03:41 <Monkey_arma> lol er?
03:41 <fkeaz> hey Flex i seen u here b4 and chat u but do i know u as some1 else?
03:41 <Monkey_arma> i dont know do u?
03:41 <Flex> he goes by the alais "Monkey"
03:41 <Monkey_arma> i am always monkey
03:41 <Flex> I go by the alais "Flex"
03:41 <Monkey_arma> what other nicks do u use?
03:41 <fkeaz> ok, so many people have other names or new names i didnt know
03:41 <Monkey_arma> in the game etc
03:41 <fkeaz> hey anyways :)
03:42 <Flex> what do you play as ingame?
03:42 <Monkey_arma> yes many do..its called "smufing"
03:42 <Monkey_arma> hi and welcome to tron
03:42 <fkeaz> fkeaz 420
03:42 <Flex> this is flea right
03:42 <fkeaz> i been playin since 05
03:42 <Monkey_arma> how come flea in game and fkeaz in irc/
03:42 <fkeaz> soz yea
03:42 <noob7> registered nick probably
03:42 <fkeaz> oops didnt change nick back after work
03:42 <Monkey_arma> ok i have not seen u much what u play?
03:42 -!- fkeaz is now known as flea
03:42 <noob7> ah
03:42 <flea> ty good call
03:42 <Monkey_arma> which servers?
03:43 <flea> xzl speeders
03:43 <flea> havent played in a month or so
03:43 <Monkey_arma> name rings  some kind of bell
03:43 <Flex> na stick with fkeaz :) i was just making sure you was flea
03:43 <flea> hahah
03:43 <Monkey_arma> flea is fine
03:43 <Monkey_arma> better than crazy haxor names
03:43 <Flex> yeah if you want to
03:43 <flea> im in |DpG|
03:43 <Flex> i'm in xclan
03:43 <Monkey_arma> dpg=?
03:43 <Flex> heard of them? :p
03:43 <Monkey_arma> im in continent
03:43 <Flex> ¦×¦?
03:43 <flea> no i havent
03:44 <Flex> you've been playing since 05 and never seen an ¦×¦ tag?
03:44 <Monkey_arma> must be high rubber
03:44 <Monkey_arma> ive been playing since dec 06
03:44 <Flex> same
03:44 <Flex> lol same month too :D
03:44 <Monkey_arma> oO
03:44 <Flex> seriously
03:45 <Monkey_arma> and i still have not registered in the forums
03:45 <Flex> i tried the game out on june 06 though..
03:45 <Monkey_arma>  i should do that
03:45 <Flex> yeah you kinda should
03:45 <Monkey_arma> i might have tried it in novemeber but i doubt it
03:46 <Flex> omg i gotta go bed, have to get up early for a run
03:46 <noob7> I have a nick on the forums but I registered it about 2 years after first playing tron
03:46 <Monkey_arma> i am waiting for washing..then bed
03:47 <Monkey_arma> maybe they can put the correct date for us :)
03:47 <noob7> hehe
03:51 <Monkey_arma> dpg = dog pound gangstas?
03:51 <flea> http://www.xzlclan.com/the/website/viewtopic.php?t=1279 is our most recent release
03:51 <flea> but we dont really use names for our clan
03:52 <flea> it goes too deep so we leave it at 3 ltrz
03:54 <Monkey_arma> ah
03:55 <Monkey_arma> xchat again has failed me...both flex and flea are in yellow..how confusing ..i have to loook hard at the last letter
03:55 <flea> hah
03:55 <flea> -NickServ-            Nickname: flea << ONLINE >>
03:55 <flea> -NickServ-          Registered: 4 years 16 weeks 4 days (22h 12m 43s) ago
03:56 <flea> here first lol :)
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03:57 <Monkey_arma> oO wow
03:58 <Monkey_arma> all others on that forum are from xzl....is that not same as dpg then?
03:58 <flea> you can think of dpg as whatever u want  :)
04:00 <Monkey_arma> i play fort/sumo/ctf/no rubber but you may know some of the people that play both..like those from sp clan...psyko, whatup (ex) viper etc
04:11 <Stewie-arma> blech
04:14 <Lucifer> DpG = Double Penetration Guys
04:14 <Lucifer> damn noobs
04:15 <Lucifer> damn noobs = you guys that have never heard of dpg
04:15 <noob7> Oo
04:17 <Monkey_arma> oO
04:17 <Monkey_arma> wtf is blech?
04:25 <noob7> #t ger eng blech
04:25 <armabot> noob7: sheet metal
04:31 <Monkey_arma> hah
04:37 <hoax> tv license is like 130 quid
04:37 <hoax> & they can get you by the signal
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04:43 <hoax> #si nexus
04:43 <armabot> hoax: Nexus9 (NO RUBBER!): Players (7/16): Blu ~$teel~, DSB_POOP, hasumi, kyden, N9::MreDD, OddDude, _-==DRUG$==-_
04:45 <Monkey_arma> hoax, wrong
04:45 <Monkey_arma> they lie
04:45 <Monkey_arma> its passive
04:45 <noob7> have you ever heard of anyone getting caught that way?
04:45 <Monkey_arma> nope
04:45 <Monkey_arma> checked it out
04:45 <noob7> see...
04:46 <hoax> u know what id like to take them to court or something for harrassment
04:46 <Monkey_arma> heh
04:46 <hoax> got a lisence and they still kepp sending threatening shit
04:46 <hoax> they do it to all students
04:46 <Monkey_arma> have you heard about boris johnson?
04:46 <hoax> but, they can still tell that youve got a tv on btw from the signal.
04:47 <hoax> is he winning?
04:47 <Monkey_arma> he has no tv and they sent him letters saying they were going to surround his house with surveilance equipment
04:47 <hoax> rofl
04:47 <Monkey_arma> he went mad
04:47 <hoax> boris johnsons a joker man
04:47 <Monkey_arma> they cant tell by signal
04:47 <Monkey_arma> hes so funny
04:47 <Monkey_arma> hes proper lmao
04:47 <hoax> duno if id want him to run london though
04:47 <Monkey_arma> no
04:47 <hoax> they can
04:47 <Monkey_arma> NOT good idea
04:47 <Monkey_arma> wrong
04:47 <hoax> they can
04:48 <Monkey_arma> wrong
04:48 <Monkey_arma> i have researched
04:48 <hoax> just because no one u know has ever got prosecuted doesnt mean they cant detect your tv signal
04:48 <noob7> night night
04:48 <Monkey_arma> they cant do it
04:48 <Monkey_arma> cu noob
04:48 <hoax> what do you know?
04:48 <hoax> (not in a rude way) ^^
04:48 <Monkey_arma> i spend some time a while ago researching it
04:49 <hoax> rite
04:49 <Monkey_arma> more than u ..not to be rude
04:49 <Monkey_arma> :)
04:49 <hoax> i bet you have, ive other things to do ;)
04:49 <Monkey_arma> hehe well consider it me getting paid to research
04:49 <Monkey_arma> like ?130
04:49 <Monkey_arma> :)
04:50 <hoax> hah
04:50 <hoax> idk if id rather have no bbc & not pay or just pay
04:50 <Monkey_arma> they could maybe hear the tv with sensitive equipment..but they cant prove its coming from whihc house
04:50 <hoax> they do alot of good stuff
04:50 <Monkey_arma> they suck
04:50 <Monkey_arma> tv sucks
04:50 <hoax> ye these days
04:51 <Monkey_arma> and the new channels are even worse
04:51 <Monkey_arma> like bbc3 omg
04:51 <hoax> meh its alrite
04:51 <hoax> bbc do alot of educational stuff tho...
04:51 <hoax> for schools n shit
04:52 <Monkey_arma> seeing as im not at school..
04:52 <Monkey_arma> the odd wildlife prog
04:52 <hoax> even been? :p
04:52 <Monkey_arma> they make loads of cash
04:52 <Monkey_arma> fuck them
04:52 <Monkey_arma> yes thx
04:53 <hoax> fuck it, i watch eastenders & tg thats it frm the beeb
04:53 <Monkey_arma> tg=?
04:53 <hoax> top gear n00b
04:53 <Monkey_arma> ah  ye thats ok
04:53 <Monkey_arma> not much else
04:53 <Monkey_arma> the odd film..
04:53 <hoax> & for 130 quid..pff
04:54  * Monkey_arma agrees 100%
04:54 <hoax> well, if u live on ur own xD
04:54 <Monkey_arma> and it dont cover itv or c4 or c5 etc
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04:58 <hoax> \o
04:58 <Durka> o/
04:59 <hoax> \m/
05:00 <Durka>  /w\
05:00 <Monkey_arma> Durka, dont spam please use a pastebin
05:00 <Durka> Monkey_arma FTL
05:00 <Monkey_arma> :)
05:00 <Monkey_arma> jooooooooooooking
05:01 <Monkey_arma> i spam too much myself
05:01 <Durka> hoax , Monkey_arma play the twg2
05:01 <Durka> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18384
05:01 <Monkey_arma> maybe
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05:02 <hoax> nah, luke-jr wouldnt want me to play
05:03 <Monkey_arma> dont worry, like they said he will get lynched in round one
05:04 <hoax> lol
05:04 <hoax> if u sign up ill sign up xD
05:05 <Monkey_arma> i will think about it..when is the deadline?
05:06 <hoax> duno
05:06 <hoax> the rest scare me :(
05:06 <hoax> ;)
05:07 <Monkey_arma> rest? you mean the people who play? they scare everyone..
05:07 <Lucifer> BOO!
05:09  * hoax jumps ^^
05:13 <Lucifer> if I lived in the UK, I wouldn't pay the tv thing either
05:13 <Lucifer> of course, I wouldn't own a tv...
05:13 <Monkey_arma> bah it sucks here
05:13 <Monkey_arma> today 9 degrees and raining
05:14 <Monkey_arma> america is like the uk but with better weather
05:14 <Lucifer> and no tv tax
05:14 <hoax> thats what u get for being a northern c***
05:15 <Lucifer> see, that's why americans are smarter than brits
05:15 <Lucifer> we're descended from the people who were smart enough to leave that island years ago
05:15 <Lucifer> those who weren't smart enough?  They stayed behind...
05:15 <Monkey_arma> i think thats the canadians
05:15 <hoax> LOL
05:16 <Monkey_arma> the americans were a bunch of religious nuts who went to bible bash the rest of the world
05:16 <Lucifer> that's an odd way to describe their escape from the persecution wrought by the european governments
05:17 <Lucifer> "They want to practice their own faith, not the one sanctioned by the King/Queen!  Put them in stocks!"
05:17 <Monkey_arma> i dont know tbh....someone just told me that and i liked it...
05:17 <Lucifer> heh
05:18 <Monkey_arma> the australians were a bunch of crooks and they have turned out to be better than the non-crooks left behind
05:18 <Lucifer> it should come as no surprise to you then that America was actually founded by a combination of greedy monopolists, and fundamentalists that wanted their own state to control religion
05:18 <Monkey_arma> no
05:18 <Lucifer> it's ironic that there were actually more criminals shipped to america than australia
05:19 <Lucifer> the reason we have freedom of religion is because that was the only way to get the 13 colonies to work together
05:19 <hoax> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7355779.stm
05:19 <hoax> ftw?
05:19 <Lucifer> nah, those people really are abusive
05:19 <Monkey_arma> i cant use firefox any more, since i got that flash plugin that sticky recommended it just crashes
05:20 <hoax> only in the deep sowwf ay
05:20 <Lucifer> nay
05:20 <Monkey_arma> well imho the 2 most fucked up countries are uk and us
05:20 <Monkey_arma> er UK and US
05:21 <Lucifer> the sect came from Utah to begin with and has lived on the border of Utah and Arizona for decades
05:21 <Monkey_arma> in the "developed world"
05:21 <Lucifer> movin to Texas is a new thing for them
05:21 <hoax> ye man, supersize!
05:21 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: yeah, Flash sucks
05:22 <hoax> dont let epsy hear u say that
05:22 <Monkey_arma> sticky sucks for telling me to get that
05:22 <Lucifer> epsy hates belgians, I hear
05:22 <hoax> lol?
05:22 <Monkey_arma> oh hoax i just got that one!
05:22 <Monkey_arma> nice one
05:22 <hoax> haha :)
05:25 <Monkey_arma> the french hate the english most i thik
05:25 <Monkey_arma> *n
05:25 <Monkey_arma> (i thik too)
05:36 <hoax> Monkey_arma coming team sumo for abit
05:37 <Monkey_arma> im in ctf
05:38 <hoax> ...lol
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09:16 <wrtlprnft> z-man: merges from 0.2.8 to the trunk still have to be done via SVN, right?
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10:48 <mrmonday> I'm running armagetron as a server from the game itself (not the dedicated server), and was wondering how I set it up so I an grind against the sides of walls and things? at the moment I die before I start grinding?
10:49 <joda_bot> mrmonday: do you know how to open the console ?
10:49 <joda_bot> mrmonday: usually u have to press ^ to type a command on the console
10:50 <joda_bot> you can then enter "cycle_rubber 10" to get a rubber of 10 ... the usual value on crazy tronners or similiar fortress setups is 5
10:50 <joda_bot> but all changes done this way are removed once you quit armagetron
10:51 <mrmonday> ^ didn't get me into a console
10:51 <joda_bot> the key isn't assigned to console then
10:52 <mrmonday> ^ got it, nevermind =)
10:52 <joda_bot> go to ESC->system->global key bindings
10:52 <joda_bot> ...
10:52 <mrmonday> ^ yeah, done it, thanks =D
10:57 <joda_bot> mrmonday: if you want to make your settings permanent
10:57 <joda_bot> here is the folder where the autoexec.cfg (which just constains the list of settings you want) has to be placed
10:57 <joda_bot> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Playing_Maps#User_Configuration_File_Paths_.28default.29
10:59 <joda_bot> I don't recommend editing the settings.cfg
10:59 <joda_bot> because it's difficult to get back to the default settings later
11:00 <joda_bot> while deleting additional settings in autoexec.cfg later is rather easy
11:00 <joda_bot> (you can even rename the file to disable your custom settings without any problems )
11:00 <mrmonday> cool, thanks =)
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13:14 <joda_bot> z-man-work: wrtlprnft: P4: http://crazy-tronners.com/wiki/index.php/Armahacktron#Features
13:14 <joda_bot> hi
13:15 <joda_bot> I talked to voodoo and we started to split up tasks with merging hacktron, if anyone of you has input on that topic, feel free to edit the list
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16:27 <flea>  * Applying 030_fix-freetype-check.patch ...
16:27 <flea> but still failing to configure (layman)
16:27 <flea> checking for FT_Free in -lfreetype... no
16:28 <flea> does anyone have any info for this?
16:29 <flea> using freetype-2.3.5-r2
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17:42 <madmax> #armaservers
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17:42 <madmax> #more
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17:45 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r8415 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/armagetronad/ (Manifest armagetronad-0.3.0-r1.ebuild): rebootstrap after patching configure.ac (try this, flea)
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18:43 <epsy> zmanuel, in nLoginProcess::CheckServerAddress, is there a reason for the 'else if' instead of 'if' alone here:
18:43 <epsy> if ( sn_trustLAN ) {} else if ( sn_GetMyAddress() == serverAddress ) {}
18:45 <luke-jr> most likely
18:46 <zmanuel> ah, you think that may be the odd IP comparison error?
18:46 <epsy> at least that's the one that can output that two same IPs aren't equal
18:47 <zmanuel> yeah.
18:47 <epsy> <https://bugs.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+bug/217363>
18:47 <zmanuel> It's indeed an error. Remove the else.
18:47 <zmanuel> Good job.
18:47  * zmanuel unslaps epsy
18:47 <epsy> lol
18:48 -!- zmanuel is now known as z-man
18:48 <epsy> now there's the port thing.. :/
18:49 <z-man> Well, if TRUST_LAN is active, all comparisons fail mysteriously :)
18:49 <luke-jr> O.o
18:49 <luke-jr> oh, the {} wasn't a literal {}
18:49 <epsy> well, not anymore :P
18:49 <luke-jr> ☺
18:49 <luke-jr> epsy forgot to put …
18:49 <wrtlprnft> still do in svn
18:50 <epsy> luke-jr, that block would have been REALLY useless then :P
18:50 <luke-jr> epsy: well, if the first {} was a literal {}, then its only purpose would have been the else
18:50  * wrtlprnft likes foo(); and bar(); instead of {} and {}
18:52 <wrtlprnft> z-man: epsy is somewhat misattributed in AUTHORS… dunno what to do with him
18:52 <z-man> Well, move him to the regular team members ;)
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18:53 <wrtlprnft> torres: << 1 << 2
18:53 <torres> 12
18:53 <epsy> #later tell eddiefantastic i remember you got to hunt one of the authentication IP mismatch bugs, do you have a recording of one where ports are different?
18:53 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
18:55 <luke-jr> anyone else having problems with the forum?
18:56 <wrtlprnft> mememe!
18:58 <epsy> me too
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19:01 <epsy> how come bugs that are set on 'fix committed' still open?
19:01 <epsy> are*
19:03 <wrtlprnft> because they're not marked as released yet
19:03 <wrtlprnft> z-man: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/ladderlogconf.patch
19:04 <wrtlprnft> z-man: would that still be acceptable for 0.2.8?
19:05 <z-man> wrtlprnft: sure.
19:05 <wrtlprnft> ok :-)
19:05 <wrtlprnft> it tries to solve the problem with edlog and armahacktron
19:05 <wrtlprnft> this way everything can go to ladderlog, it'll just be disabled by default
19:06 <pippijn> z-man: I need your help again :-)
19:06 <pippijn> torres: struct A { struct B; }; struct A::B { }; // defining a nested class externally
19:06 <torres> undefined reference to `main'
19:06 <pippijn> right?
19:07 <pippijn> torres: template<typename T> struct A { template<typename U> struct B; }; template<typename T> template<typename U> struct A<T>::B<U> { }; // why does this not work?
19:07 <torres> partial specialization ‘A<T>::B<U>’ does not specialize any template arguments
19:07 <pippijn> better question: how to make it work :-)
19:07 <pippijn> torres: template<typename T> struct A { template<typename U> struct B; }; template<typename T> template<typename U> struct A<T>::template B<U> { };
19:07 <torres> expected identifier before ‘{’ token
19:07 <pippijn> tried that
19:07 <pippijn> torres: template<typename T> struct A { template<typename U> struct B; }; template<typename T> struct A<T>::template<typename U> B<U> { };
19:07 <torres> expected template-id before ‘<’ token
19:07 <pippijn> *shrug*
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19:08 <z-man> pippijn: it's probably one of those odd things that don't work with templates :)
19:08 <pippijn> that would be extremely annoying
19:08 <z-man> I'm actually surprised the non-templated code works.
19:08 <pippijn> really
19:09 <z-man> A bit, yes.
19:09 <z-man> Ah, the error gives a hint how to make it work :)
19:09 <z-man> The first error
19:10 <pippijn> torres: template<typename T> struct A { template<typename U> struct B; }; template<typename T> template<typename U> struct A<T>::B { };
19:10 <torres> undefined reference to `main'
19:10 <pippijn> there we go
19:10 <luke-jr> guru3:
19:10 <z-man> torres: template<typename T> struct A { template<typename U, typename V=U> struct B; }; template<typename T> template<typename U> struct A<T>::B<U,U> { };
19:10 <pippijn> z-man: thanks for the hint
19:10 <torres> undefined reference to `main'
19:10 <pippijn> huh
19:10 <luke-jr> lol
19:10 <pippijn> z-man: wtf?
19:10 <pippijn> why so complicated
19:11 <z-man> Ah, I was trying to make the definition a specialization.
19:12 <pippijn> it works now
19:12 <pippijn> excellent
19:12 <pippijn> I was just being stupid
19:12 <pippijn> of course it couldn't work my way
19:13 <pippijn> now I can go define lots of cool things in my scalar class
19:13 <pippijn> and protect their use with this nested template
19:13 <pippijn> long live sfinae
19:14 <z-man> heh.
19:14 <pippijn> error messages should become more readable from now on..
19:14 <pippijn> I still feel hacky :-\
19:18 <Lucifer> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/19/opinion/19collins.html
19:18 <Lucifer> that is the greatest bush analogy ever
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19:29 <armabot> lpbugs: [217363] server address mismatches while authing when both IPs/port were same
19:29 <noob13> #cheers
19:29 <armabot> noob13: [] Cheers! [] The friendly server.: Players (9/12): aslan, æSpådeæ, DKO, Ecoolarg, fingerbib, Major Fatal, mike hueon, one/arm\bandit, Toxicosmos, |LB| Jason X
19:36 <epsy> z-man, i didn't hear any word from bazaarmagetron since my last commit
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19:43 <z-man> epsy: I'll check
19:43 <z-man> Another one of these odd locks.
20:15 <epsy> hider->GetAccessLevel() >= se_hideAccessLevelOf
20:15 <epsy> boo
20:17 <wrtlprnft> ?
20:17 <epsy> it should be hider->GetAccessLevel() <= se_hideAccessLevelOf
20:17 <wrtlprnft> no.
20:18 <wrtlprnft> it's meant to allow everyone to hide but, say, admins and moderators
20:18 <epsy> why is that set to 20 then?
20:18 <wrtlprnft> so only noobs are hidden
20:18 <wrtlprnft> # By default, the authentication names of all players are visible to
20:18 <wrtlprnft> # everyone. You can grant your players a certain degree of anonymity
20:18 <wrtlprnft> # by allowing all players of a certain maximal access level to hide their
20:18 <wrtlprnft> # identity with
20:18 <wrtlprnft> ACCESS_LEVEL_HIDE_OF 20
20:18 <epsy> se_hideAccessLevelTo is set to 2
20:18 <epsy> :P
20:19 <wrtlprnft> yeah, that's the access level you need to have to see everyone's ID
20:19 <epsy> so, the other one should be the access level you need to have to be able to hide
20:20 <epsy> shouldn't it?
20:21 <epsy> access_level_hide_of_help      Hide user account information of players with at most this access level.
20:21 <epsy> access_level_hide_to_help      Hide user account information to players with less than this access level.
20:21 <epsy> damn this access level thing where greater ones have less power
20:22 <epsy> :)
20:22 <wrtlprnft> yeah
20:22 <wrtlprnft> i wonder why z-man chose that
20:22 <epsy> maybe so it's a bit like shuffling
20:22 <wrtlprnft> i like the idea with 0 being root and all, but the word choice for higher or lower access levels is bad, really.
20:24 <epsy> same fro at most and at least
20:24 <epsy> Minimal and Maximal seems to be a good choice
20:24 <z-man> wrtlprnft: because it's that way in Tron :)
20:25 <wrtlprnft> well, higher/lower access level is still a bad word choice.
20:25 <epsy> access_level_hide_of_help      Minimal access level to be able to hide his own user account information.
20:25 <epsy> access_level_hide_to_help      Minimal access level to see everyone's user account information.
20:25 <wrtlprnft> i'd prefer better/worse access level
20:25 <epsy> it's own user info?
20:26 <wrtlprnft> access_level_hide_of_help      Hide user account information of players with a worse or equal level than this.
20:26 <wrtlprnft> like that. not exactly perfect, but no misunderstandings there
20:26 <wrtlprnft> epsy: sure, good idea.
20:27 <epsy> yours or mine?
20:27 <noob13> i don't get it.
20:29 <wrtlprnft> yours
20:29 <wrtlprnft> mine would require global changes in the wording. it's a bit late for that
20:29 <wrtlprnft> noob13: what?
20:30 <noob13> i'm reading further up now. neglect that.
20:30 <noob13> nope.
20:30 <epsy> disregard that*
20:30 <noob13> nevermind tho.
20:31 <pippijn> z-man: http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/txt/558221cdf821cf1af5d445c81d4c3b39.txt <- it's getting on my nerves
20:31 <pippijn> z-man: I fixed it.. but it's still getting on my nerves
20:33 <pippijn> z-man: or this: http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/txt/d2c19ff6ac3487fc047febd7dc566042.txt
20:35 <wrtlprnft> epsy: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-work/revision/812
20:35 <wrtlprnft> epsy: a great way to steal someone else's commits
20:36 <wrtlprnft> or at least hide them in some obscure revision like 810.1.1
20:36 <epsy> LOL
20:36 <z-man> eek
20:37 <wrtlprnft> sorry, epsy's commit happened while i was working on my stuff
20:37 <z-man> the eek was for pippijn
20:37 <wrtlprnft> oh
20:37 <pippijn> z-man: you can imagine this isn't very readable on a 135-char wide terminal
20:38  * wrtlprnft should really usr bzr co instead of bzr branch. It sounds more sane to me
20:38 <pippijn> it's funny in a miserable way..
20:40 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8417 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (10 files in 4 dirs): wrtlprnft: Added settings to separately enable/disable all ladderlog outputs. Currently all are enabled by default, but this may change for further additions.
20:43 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8418 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/network/nAuthentication.cpp src/tools/tString.cpp): wrtlprnft: Merging changes that happened while i was working on my previous commit. There's gotta be a better way to do this.
20:44 <epsy> wrtlprnft, bzr bind ?
20:44 <epsy> i think you have to use the full upload url, not the lp: shortcut
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20:46 <wrtlprnft> good idea
20:47 <wrtlprnft> especially since it's reversible
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20:52  * epsy needs a lil help on naming a conf item
20:52 <epsy> static tConfItemLine se_hiddenPlayerPrefixConf( "PLYAER_LIST_HIDDEN_PLAYER_PREFIX", se_hiddenPlayerPrefix );
20:53 <epsy> that's what would be printed in front of a hidden player's GID and access level to those who can see it
20:54 <wrtlprnft> typo, just in case you want to commit it
20:54 <wrtlprnft> epsy: btw, separate hiding of access level and gid might be nice
21:01 <epsy> anything wrong with PLYAER_LIST_HIDDEN_PLAYER_PREFIX ??
21:01 <luke-jr> yes
21:01 <pippijn> luke-jr: how do you produce the smileyface?
21:01 <wrtlprnft> PLYAER
21:01 <epsy> oh, lol
21:01 <epsy> apart from that?
21:02 <luke-jr> pippijn: ☺
21:02 <pippijn> luke-jr: yes, how?
21:02 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8419 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/render/rFont.cpp): wrtlprnft: removed one redundant call to strlen and replaced two others by strnlen, all of which were executed on a per-character, per-frame basis
21:02 <luke-jr> pippijn: I type : and )
21:02 <epsy> pippijn, autoreplace
21:02 <pippijn> oh..
21:02 <wrtlprnft> although just appending “, hidden” to the global ID might be better
21:02 <pippijn> darn
21:02 <pippijn> I thought he had something for that
21:02 <wrtlprnft> the guys who are privileged to see it should know that they're not supposed to blurt it out without reason
21:02 <wrtlprnft> pippijn: xmodmap ftw
21:03 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: hm?
21:03 <pippijn> can xmodmap do that?
21:03 <wrtlprnft> that's how i get my …π–—“”„«»≤≥√∛
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21:03 <wrtlprnft> of course
21:03 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: how?
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21:03 <epsy> pippijn, not autoreplacing i guess
21:04 <pippijn> I just have xmodmap for the media keyboard
21:04 <pippijn> multimedia*
21:04 <wrtlprnft> pippijn: well, on german keyboards right alt is a special key, somewhat like shift
21:04 <pippijn> I have a german keyboard
21:04 <wrtlprnft> oh, duh
21:04 <pippijn> it says alt gr
21:04 <wrtlprnft> yeah, i know
21:04 <wrtlprnft> sec
21:05 <epsy> many KBs have such a key :)
21:05 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/my.xkb
21:05 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8420 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/render/rFont.cpp): wrtlprnft: replaced strlen(<string>) >= 8 by strnlen(<string>, 8) >= 8 in three places
21:05 <pippijn> oi
21:05 <wrtlprnft> that's my xmodmap file
21:05 <epsy> wrtlprnft, so you want a suffix, too?
21:05 <luke-jr> CHK test
21:05 <luke-jr> hm
21:05 <wrtlprnft> i'd like something like “wrtlprnft (wrtlprnft@forums, Owner, Hidden)”
21:06 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: loaded it
21:06 <luke-jr> √ π << >>
21:06 <epsy> aclually what i do is to put both GID and access level in grey
21:06 <wrtlprnft> pippijn: try around a bit
21:06 <epsy> the same grey than in team menu
21:06 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: how do I now produce a “?
21:06 <wrtlprnft> alt gr+v
21:06 <pippijn> ah
21:06 <pippijn> well
21:06 <pippijn> I had that before my.xkb
21:07 <wrtlprnft> yeah, that's by default
21:07 <wrtlprnft> try shift-alt gr-v
21:07 <pippijn> what did you change?
21:07 <pippijn> „
21:07 <wrtlprnft> that's not default i think
21:07 <epsy> `
21:07 <epsy> :P
21:07 <pippijn> I see
21:07 <wrtlprnft> „german text“
21:07 <pippijn> right
21:07 <epsy> « baguette »
21:07 <wrtlprnft> or alt gr+ö
21:07 <pippijn> what else is new?
21:07 <pippijn> ˝
21:07 <wrtlprnft> shift-altgr-yx are ≤≥
21:08 <pippijn> ≤≥
21:08 <wrtlprnft> shift-altgr-m is pi
21:08 <pippijn> nice
21:08 <pippijn> π
21:08 <wrtlprnft> square root is on a-s
21:08 -!- Monkey_arma [n=None@cpc4-stkn1-0-0-cust208.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #armagetron
21:08 <pippijn> √
21:08 <wrtlprnft> and cubic on s-a-s
21:08 <wrtlprnft> ≠ on s-a-0
21:08 <epsy> by default i only have latin-1 chars there
21:08 <pippijn> ∛
21:08 <pippijn> that's a box here
21:08 <wrtlprnft> then your font doesn't have it
21:09 <pippijn> that's fine
21:09 <epsy> the only exception being €
21:09 <pippijn> ≠
21:09 <wrtlprnft> s-a-+ is ±
21:09 <wrtlprnft> oh s-a-e is element of
21:09 <pippijn> ∈
21:09 <wrtlprnft> didn't find a good use for it, though
21:09 <pippijn> nice
21:09 <pippijn> I write documents in latex, so I use \in for that
21:10 <pippijn> but in durian code, I can use it
21:10 <wrtlprnft> yeah :-)
21:10 <wrtlprnft> tell me if you figure out how to include chars that have no keysym
21:10 <pippijn> durian allows any series of unicode character as identifier
21:10 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: what do you mean?
21:10 <wrtlprnft> i currently only know how to include those in /usr/include/X11/keysymdef.h
21:11 <pippijn> ah I see
21:11 <wrtlprnft> oh, ∞ is s-a-b
21:11 <pippijn> ∞
21:11 <wrtlprnft> if you ever want to make pseudo-bulleted lists, s-a-ä is •
21:12 <wrtlprnft> i think that's about it, at least it's those i didn't forget because i didn't really need them
21:12  * epsy now wonders where to put player_list_hidden_player_prefix_help
21:13 <wrtlprnft> oh, does a-n or s-a-n do anything for you?
21:13 <wrtlprnft> i have no clue why, but i can't map it
21:13 <epsy> wrtlprnft, are you able to map arrow keys?
21:13 <epsy> i never ever could
21:14 <pippijn> z-man: I could use your help again :-)
21:14 <wrtlprnft> who would want to do that?
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21:14 <pippijn> z-man: http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/txt/210d23b2064317b132dd9739b35c7e90.txt
21:14 <epsy> wrtlprnft, for having arrow characters!
21:14 <pippijn> z-man: it seems the following SFINAE logic is incorrect: http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/txt/125ec5c65272d85d4864b6e5ecae2f09.txt
21:15 <epsy> for ex when i press alt gr + left arrow
21:15 <pippijn> z-man: but I can't find the error
21:15 <pippijn> z-man: all four of them handle unique cases
21:15 <z-man> Argh, symbol salad
21:15 <pippijn> z-man: and as far as I can see, all possible cases are handled
21:16 <wrtlprnft> (s-a-q is ohms)
21:16 <pippijn> Ω
21:17 <pippijn> looks like http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/sc/osiris-200804192123.png here
21:17 <wrtlprnft> well, it's a capital omega
21:17 <pippijn> ye
21:17 <pippijn> s
21:17 <pippijn> it looks like a horseshoe
21:17 <wrtlprnft> i think i just figured out how to do the smiley
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21:18 <pippijn> ….,•'^˝^'•,.…
21:18 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: frowny face, please
21:18 <wrtlprnft> too lazy to look it up
21:18 <QUARG> hello
21:18 <wrtlprnft> hi
21:19 <epsy> pippijn, shame stable arma doesn't support unicode, that owuld have been a great name for mkzelda :P
21:19 <pippijn> epsy: ;-)
21:19 <epsy> buti guess that's too many bits
21:20 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: nvm
21:20 <pippijn> …
21:20 <pippijn> ………………………………………
21:20 <QUARG> i was looking around in the source code for the sound acceleration values
21:20 <wrtlprnft> don't catch luke-jr's disease!
21:20 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: I want _ the other way around
21:20 <QUARG> i was trying to me the sound accel faster
21:20  * epsy praises for no conflicts
21:20 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: I used to be able to do ^_ and it would put it up
21:20 <epsy> that sounded like the pope
21:20 <pippijn> but that no longer works since X.org 6
21:20 <pippijn> er
21:20 <pippijn> 7
21:21 <wrtlprnft> ¯
21:21 <wrtlprnft> like that?
21:21 <wrtlprnft> works fine for me
21:21 <QUARG> the only line i have found was cycle_sound_speed which only affects the pitch
21:21 <pippijn> yeah
21:21 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: how?
21:21 <pippijn> ^_?
21:21 <wrtlprnft> yeah
21:21 <QUARG> any ideas?
21:21 <pippijn> doesn't work here
21:21 <pippijn>     Option         "XkbModel" "pc105"
21:21 <pippijn>     Option         "XkbRules" "xorg"
21:21 <pippijn>     Option         "XkbLayout" "de"
21:21 <pippijn> what do you have?
21:22 <wrtlprnft> argh, no clue. i use kde for that
21:22 <pippijn> oh
21:22 <pippijn> xorg.conf?
21:22 <wrtlprnft> oh, there. sec
21:22 <wrtlprnft> pippijn: don't have it
21:22 <epsy> i should find out some day what that input method configuration dialog does
21:22 <pippijn> huh?
21:23 <wrtlprnft>  30 Section "InputDevice"
21:23 <wrtlprnft>  31     Identifier  "Keyboard0"
21:23 <wrtlprnft>  32     Driver      "kbd"
21:23 <wrtlprnft>  33 EndSection
21:23 <wrtlprnft> that's all there is
21:23 <pippijn> epsy: XIM sucks
21:23 <pippijn> epsy: kinput2 mostly works but can only do canna, kanji and something weird
21:23 <epsy> where's there as default are: iimf, scim, and uim
21:23 <wrtlprnft> kde executes setxkbmap -option nbsp:level3n,ctrl:nocaps,altwin:left_meta_win,lv3:ralt_switch_multikey for me on startup
21:23 <pippijn> epsy: SCIM is mostly broken but if you get it to work it's great
21:23 <wrtlprnft> and setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout de
21:23 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: ah
21:24 <epsy> but well, none of these is really installed
21:25 <mkzelda> [2008-04-19 152526] <epsy> pippijn, shame stable arma doesn't support unicode, that owuld have been a great name for mkzelda :P <-- LOL :)
21:25 <epsy> :)
21:27 <wrtlprnft> #base 16 8 dbf
21:27 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 6677
21:37 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8421 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (5 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed)
21:37 <armabot> armagetronad: author: epsy46
21:37 <armabot> armagetronad: Serval changes:
21:37 <armabot> armagetronad:  * Global ID hiding now really works
21:37 <armabot> armagetronad:  * Clarified access_level_hide_of_help and access_level_hide_to_help
21:37 <armabot> armagetronad:  * Show a server-defined prefix before a hidden player's Global ID and access level in /players
21:37 <armabot> armagetronad:  * Different /invite messages depending on if the team which is being joined is locked or not.
21:38 <epsy> err..there's one line missing
21:38 <wrtlprnft> (log message trimmed)
21:38 <epsy> oh
21:39 <epsy> tColoredString with any of r_, b_ or b_ set to -1 will give 0xRESETT
21:39 <luke-jr>  wrtlprnft: replaced strlen(<string>) >= 8 by strnlen(<string>, 8) >= 8 in three …
21:39 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: strnlen(…, 8) will never be > 8 O.o
21:39 <luke-jr> and is a non-standard glibc extension
21:39 <wrtlprnft> yeah, who cares
21:39 <wrtlprnft> about the never > 8
21:40 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: if we have to we'll write our own
21:40 <pippijn> how can I reduce this: http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/txt/aa87492864f16d1ce56502da34f040fa.txt
21:40 <wrtlprnft> but the current method was just plain silly
21:40 <wrtlprnft> counting the complete length of a string, beginning at every character
21:40 <luke-jr> heh
21:41 <wrtlprnft> strnlen can't be that complicated to implement
21:41 <luke-jr> sounds like something other than strnlen would be even better, IMO
21:41 <luke-jr> where is the code that can connect to Arma servers?
21:41 <wrtlprnft> ?
21:41 <luke-jr> a bot type thing
21:41 <wrtlprnft> sec
21:42 <wrtlprnft> http://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/armagetronad/private/wrtlprnft/serverinfo.php?view=markup
21:43 <wrtlprnft> look at the bot class to see how to implement a really stupid bot
21:44 <wrtlprnft> epsy: i updated the binaries, btw
21:44 <epsy> right now?
21:44 <wrtlprnft> yeah
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21:45 <epsy> thanks :)
21:45 <wrtlprnft> *binary, it's just one
21:45 <sasori> is Durka here? o_O
21:45 <wrtlprnft> no
21:45 <sasori> gah
21:45 <wrtlprnft> unless he's hiding under some obscure nick
21:46 <epsy> >.>
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21:46 <epsy> NO I'M NOT DURKA
21:46 <Monkey_arma> ?yes he is
21:46 <wrtlprnft> can be just as annoying at times ;-)
21:46 <sasori> Durka my darling, where art thou!
21:47 <epsy> america :/
21:48  * sasori dissapears in a secret passageway
21:48 -!- sasori [n=liiz_@ip56583146.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Client Quit]
21:51 <Lucifer> I'm in america and I'm here
21:52 <epsy> he is in america and he's d0rka
21:53  * epsy no more rhymes with ka :)
21:53 <epsy> got*
21:54 <Flex> epsy you on drugs?
21:54 <Lucifer> yes
21:54 <Flex> what kind?
21:55 <Lucifer> well, he's french, so it'll have to be wine
21:55 <Lucifer> and he hates belgians
21:55 <Flex> why.. what did they do
21:55 <Lucifer> you should see what happens when MrBougo comes in here and epsy's here
21:55 <Lucifer> man, it's like being inside a nuclear reactor
21:55 <Flex> sheeet
21:56 <Lucifer> don't tell him you're belgian!
21:56 <epsy> who is belgian?
21:56 <Monkey_arma> ok now Lucifer and Flex and wrtlprnft are all yellow
21:56 <Monkey_arma> #slap xchat
21:56 <armabot> Monkey_arma slaps xchat for being a raving moron.
21:56 <Lucifer> I'm belgian
21:56 <epsy> Monkey_arma, same
21:56 <Lucifer> I've got one on my family tree
21:56 <Flex> inbread
21:56 <epsy> you should rot in hell!
21:56 <Lucifer> he's still hanging there!
21:56 <Flex> what's wrong with belgians..
21:57 <Lucifer> they smell like frenchies
21:57 <Monkey_arma> they "waffle" too much...
21:57  * Monkey_arma hides
21:57 <Flex> actually fuck belgians.. there's no real good excuse to like them anyways
21:57 <Lucifer> yeah, it's not like they're dutch or anything
21:57 <Monkey_arma> chocolate?
21:58 <Flex> their chocolate tastes of shit
21:58 <wrtlprnft> they make chocolate there?
21:58 <Lucifer> ahhh, best line in a comedy:  After Rimmer tongue-kisses a nun, she says "You french kissed me!"
21:58 <flea> dang my buffer isnt long enough, i missed whatever was directed to me from earlier
21:58 <Lucifer> he says "No, it was nearer Antwerp.  I belgum-kissed you."
21:59 <Monkey_arma> you mean red dwarf rimmer?
21:59 <Lucifer> yes
21:59 <Lucifer> that's in the last episode
21:59 <Monkey_arma> in america did you get the uk version or?
21:59 <Flex> they got a remake of red dwarf
21:59 <Lucifer> uk version, the only american version was a pilot that didn't go over well
21:59 <Monkey_arma> ah good
21:59 <Lucifer> and it was a horrible pilot, no less
21:59 <Monkey_arma> yes i heard it was pants
22:00 <Lucifer> uk shows don't really work out when they've been americanized
22:00 <Lucifer> look at Max Headroom
22:00 <Flex> what about american office
22:00 <Flex> is that any good
22:00 <Lucifer> the pilot was really freaking awesome, and the show was mediocre
22:00 <Lucifer> beats me, never seen it
22:00 <Lucifer> only tv I really watch is stuff I get via internet
22:00 <hoax> wtf flex used to be purple
22:00 <hoax> you've changed
22:01 <hoax> you used to be cool
22:01 <Flex> why the fuck do you guys care about colour
22:01 <Flex> jeez
22:01 <flea> lol
22:01 <Lucifer> damn racists
22:01 <flea> its because i speak isnt it
22:01 <flea> Lucifer, hey
22:01 <Monkey_arma> they were going to make a red dwarf film until the americans in charge suggested hugh grant to star in it lol
22:01 <Lucifer> flea, hoe
22:01 <hoax> rofl
22:01 <Lucifer> they're making a red dwarf film
22:01 <flea> Lucifer, i was looking for some info regding ft_free calls in configure
22:01 <Flex> hahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
22:01 <Lucifer> flea, I hate to disappoint you, but you're probably going to have to keep looking
22:01 <flea> lol
22:02 <flea> no d/pointment here
22:02 <Flex> tbh, i've never seen a full episode of the british office..
22:02 <Flex> is it any good?
22:02 <flea> just means i cant own people in the meanwhile ;)
22:02 <hoax> just re-watched it few weeks ago...
22:02 <Flex> the whole thing?
22:02 <hoax> dont tell me youve watch the american one but not the poper one
22:03 <Flex> na haven't seen that either
22:03 <hoax> ya both series
22:03 <hoax> classic stuff
22:03 <Lucifer> er, looks like they stopped making the movie
22:03 <Lucifer> they kept saying "shooting has started", now it's "we're actively pursuing funding" again
22:03 <Lucifer> grrr
22:03 <Flex> wanna talk awesome tv to movies.. the next x-files movie is coming out
22:03 <Lucifer> same thing's going to happen that happened with hhgttg
22:04 <Monkey_arma> Lucifer, they would have got the budget for hugh grant but the writers decided to fuck that off
22:04 <Monkey_arma> for obvious reasons
22:04 <Lucifer> of course!  It *has* to be the original cast!
22:04 <Monkey_arma> oh ye
22:04 <Lucifer> they didn't go and get hugh grant to play Kirk, did they?
22:05 <Monkey_arma> dunno
22:05 <Lucifer> NO!  Shatner played kirk in the show *and* the movies!
22:05 <Flex> http://www.scifimoviepage.com/upcoming/previews/xfiles2.html
22:05 <Monkey_arma> i dont like star trek..however red dwarf...different
22:06 <madmax> #last --from armabot --with flea
22:06 <armabot> madmax: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 49190 messages.
22:06 <Flex> #flex
22:06 <flea> oh well, thx madmax
22:06 <flea> its naptime for me anyhow
22:06 <flea> 80miles on the bike this morning
22:06 <madmax> armabot doesn't track itself?
22:07  * Lucifer considers bringing his server back up
22:07 <Flex> 80miles nice
22:07 <Monkey_arma> do we have any chance of organising a good fort match later or am i wasting my breath?
22:07  * Lucifer wonders what kind of server he's got running right now
22:07 <Flex> how long did it take?
22:07 <Monkey_arma> oh man here we go flea and flex on biking
22:07 <Lucifer> used to have the center message "Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast."
22:07 <madmax> flea: it was a commit message related to the ebuild
22:07 <flea> Flex, my wife and i rode since about 10am till now
22:07 <Monkey_arma> i think series 3 and 4 were gold dust
22:07 <Flex> oh nice
22:07 <Flex> what time is it now there
22:07 <Monkey_arma> 1 and 2 werent so good..but just a warm up
22:07 <Lucifer> I thought the last two were the best two, to be honest
22:08 <flea> madmax, ty ... seems there is a possible fix by reverting to old freetype..
22:08 <Monkey_arma> i hated the woman
22:08 <flea> 1630
22:08 <Monkey_arma> kochanski or however its spelt
22:08 <Lucifer> she was bad at first, that is true, but starting when they cut off lister's arm the series went to new peaks
22:08 <flea> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-5065049.html#5065049
22:08 <Monkey_arma> oh ok i should see the rest then
22:08 <Flex> was that some intense cycling or something, i haven't done anything like that
22:08 <Lucifer> but the episode oroborous was definitely the lowest point of the series
22:08 <Monkey_arma> i gave up when she came along
22:08 <Lucifer> which was in series 7, iirc.  Might have been in series 6
22:09 <Monkey_arma> ye some in 6 were shite
22:09 <Lucifer> oh man, you have to see epideme, it's almost the best episode in the whole run
22:09 <flea> Flex, its a honda shadow 600
22:09 <Flex> ohhhh motobike..
22:09 <luke-jr> flea: does it work now?
22:09 <Monkey_arma> for me the classics were all in 3 or 4
22:09 <flea> luke-jr, i havent tried yet :(
22:09 <Monkey_arma> like the one with the space chopsticks
22:09 <luke-jr> flea: and yeah, reverting to old freetype is a workaround
22:09 <flea> im about to pass out hehe
22:09 <Lucifer> I got confused when kryten first appeared
22:09 <Flex> lol i thought bicycle lol
22:09 <luke-jr> flea: plz try and lemme know :þ
22:09 <Monkey_arma> kryten is awesome
22:09 <flea> luke-jr, will do
22:10 <Monkey_arma> totally makes the show
22:10 <flea> cyall l8r
22:10 <Lucifer> I really enjoyed the sequence of episodes that includes the JFK episode
22:10 <Flex> flea you faker, all you done was sit down :p
22:10 <Monkey_arma> cu
22:10 <flea> lol flex
22:10 <Lucifer> the JFK episode is definitely one of the best
22:10 <Flex> is it even possible to do 80miles on a bike wth
22:10 <flea> i've ran enough in my life
22:10 <Lucifer> "This is good, Kryten, where did you find it?"
22:10 <Monkey_arma> justice zone was good
22:10 <Lucifer> "Well, that man...."
22:10 <Lucifer> "I don't care where we go, as long as it was before dinner!"
22:10 <flea> 82nd airborne time alone yielded hundreds of running miles
22:10 <Flex> oh nice
22:11 <Monkey_arma> red dwarf quotes..ok here we go
22:11 <Lucifer> justice zone's the one where they imprison rimmer for wiping out the red dwarf, right?
22:11 <Monkey_arma> "how did you know that wasnt the real lister?"
22:11 <Monkey_arma> "because that dude could play"
22:12 <Lucifer> heh
22:12 <Lucifer> best moments don't seem to have a smart-ass remark in it, thouh
22:12 <Monkey_arma> justice zone is where people who are imprisoned in it ...well..any bad they do gets done to  them instead
22:12 <Monkey_arma> true
22:12 <Lucifer> lister going back into the shuttle to get his guitar from the closet after rimmer burned his army men....
22:12 <Monkey_arma> which one was that?
22:12 <Lucifer> oh yeah, that has the awesome fight where lister hits the robot guy and gets hurt
22:13 <Lucifer> hmm, that was in series 2, actually, when lister and rimmer were shipwrecked
22:13 <madmax> what are you talking about? o_O
22:13 <Monkey_arma> !
22:13 <Monkey_arma> red dwarf!
22:13 <Flex> geeks
22:13 <Lucifer> yeah, it's the same one where they imprison rimmer, because the fight is during their escape
22:13 <Lucifer> the Inquisitor is definitely high on my list two
22:14 <Lucifer> er, too
22:14 <Lucifer> "Give me five!"
22:14 <Lucifer> "I can do better than that, I can give you fifteen"
22:14 <Monkey_arma> i remember taht one
22:14 <Monkey_arma> if you aint seen red dwarf you must guys
22:14 <Monkey_arma> series 3,4 especially
22:15 <Flex> i haven't seen most of the episodes..
22:15 <Lucifer> yeah, if you haven't seen red dwarf, you're not worth talking to
22:15 <Monkey_arma> "you're a shmeee.....you're a shmeee....you're a shmeee heeee"
22:15 <Lucifer> you can get the whole series off bittorrent, of course
22:15 <Monkey_arma> i'll have to get the last 2 at some point
22:16 <Flex> what about x-files.. you guys like that?
22:16 <Monkey_arma> no :(
22:17 <Flex> i can't wait for the next movie.. i wanna see if they still have the spark
22:17 <Monkey_arma> red dwarf is not geeky in the star trek sense
22:17 <Lucifer> no, red dwarf is the closest thing to a successor to hhgttg we've got
22:18 <Monkey_arma> hhgttg?
22:19 <Lucifer> hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy
22:20 <Monkey_arma> ah
22:20 <Lucifer> you should go and grab the radio show and the tv show, if you haven't already :)
22:21 <Monkey_arma> they made a film didnt they
22:21 <Lucifer> I've been keeping an eye out for the old infocom adventure game
22:21 <Lucifer> yeah, they did, and it was a decent movie
22:21 <MaZuffeR> wth, read the book(s) ffs
22:21 <Monkey_arma> im not sure if id like it..i dont mean i wont....im just not sure
22:21 <Flex> yeah the movie was alright
22:21 <Lucifer> man, the books are like third-generation copy of a copy of a copy
22:21 <Monkey_arma> MaZuffeR, yes boss :)
22:22  * Lucifer is partial to the tv show and the infocom adventure game
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22:27 <ct|kyle> :D
22:28 <Lucifer> what's he smiling about?
22:28 <epsy> wrong tab maybe
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22:35 <Monkey_arma> or he loves red dwarf?
22:36 <epsy> hmm
22:37 <epsy> short after someone died, you can still /admin kill him
22:37 <luke-jr> O.o
22:42 <wrtlprnft> epsy: i'm on it
22:43 <epsy> me too
22:43 <epsy> :)
22:45 <epsy> gCycle::Kill should should tell his player that it doesn't exist anymore i'd guess
22:45 <wrtlprnft> nah
22:45 <wrtlprnft>     if ( p && p->Object() && p->Object()->Alive() )
22:45 <wrtlprnft> that should do the trick
22:45 <wrtlprnft> noone cared before because there was no message
22:45 <epsy> oh, i was looking for that Alive()
22:46 <Monkey_arma> anywayyyyyyy.........so are we going to organise a good match or......waste of time??
22:46  * wrtlprnft resists the urge to commit his fix and cause merge conflicts for epsy
22:46 <epsy> arma is a waste of time!
22:46 <epsy> lol wrtl
22:46 <Monkey_arma> #merge epsy
22:47 <epsy> Monkey_arma, did anywayyyyyyy.........so link by you, too?
22:48 <Flex> still high epsy huh :p
22:48 <Monkey_arma> epsy could you say that again in english please
22:48 <Monkey_arma> or french even
22:48 <epsy> Monkey_arma, did "anywayyyyyyy.........so" link by you, too?
22:48 <Monkey_arma> or polish or german or chinese...
22:48 <Flex> ohhhhhhhhh i get it.... [not]
22:49 <epsy> Monkey_arma, NM
22:49 <epsy> er, caps
22:49 <Monkey_arma> is it a crytic message?
22:49 <epsy> heh
22:49 <Flex> epsy share that good stuff dawg
22:50 <epsy> i noticed that anywayyyyyyy.........so was linked by my client, wondered if it did happen at monkey's
22:51 <Monkey_arma> epsy you need some kind of electric shock therapy for that
22:51 <Monkey_arma> nip it in the bud so to speak
22:51 <Flex> Monkey_arma, what you wearin
22:51 <Monkey_arma> clothes
22:51 <Flex> nice
22:51 <Flex> me too
22:52 <Monkey_arma> ok epsy im hooked now.. i will figure this out if it kills me
22:52 <Monkey_arma> start one step at a time
22:52  * epsy SLAPs Monkey_arma
22:52  * epsy SLAPs Monkey_arma 100
22:52 <Monkey_arma> :0
22:52 <Flex> "monkeh I DID"  -  "SO ANYWAYYYYY""
22:52 <Monkey_arma> :\
22:52 <Flex> still decyphering the rest
23:00 <Monkey_arma> ah ok  epsy i finally understand what u r saying
23:00 <Monkey_arma> yes it linked on my client too
23:00 <Monkey_arma> the first one
23:00 <epsy> lol!
23:01  * Monkey_arma wipes sweat from forehead
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23:24 <Flex> I got the Beretta with my face wrapped in a rag
23:24 <Flex> so put the African slave juvelery in the bag
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23:25 <Flex> Word of Mouth is I'm in the club being sneaky
23:25 <Flex> I'm like the body snatchers in your girl as getting sleepy
23:25 <Flex> yoooooo
23:25 <Flex> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
23:25 <Flex> pwned pwned
23:26 <Monkey_arma> ok so match....time to pester people..and this time teams will be even
23:26 <Monkey_arma> epsy you are playing
23:27 <epsy> currently? no
23:27 <Monkey_arma> you are playing in the match
23:27 <epsy> er
23:27 <epsy> O_o
23:28  * Monkey_arma pms people in agressive manner
23:28 <epsy> what match?
23:28 <Lucifer> the match he wants to play
23:28 <Lucifer> probably going to be 1 v 1
23:28 <Monkey_arma> correct to the first statement
23:28 <Monkey_arma> wrong to the second
23:28 <Monkey_arma> ok we got me lack epsy flex and noob so far
23:29 <Monkey_arma> 1v1 i think not
23:29 <Flex> ask MaZuffeR
23:30 <Monkey_arma> i have
23:30 <Monkey_arma> im well ahead of u
23:30 <Flex> okok.. ask..
23:30 <Monkey_arma> ok if we can wait 20 mins he is in
23:30 <Monkey_arma> going well so far
23:30 <Flex> we'll only get started in 20minutes anyway
23:31 <Monkey_arma> correct
23:31 <Flex> which noob is in
23:31 <Monkey_arma> you
23:31 <Monkey_arma> ok dook too
23:31 <Monkey_arma> if we can wait 30 mins
23:31 <Monkey_arma> yes we can we are slow
23:31 <Flex> who's dook
23:31 <Lucifer> if you can wait two weeks, I might be in
23:32 <Monkey_arma> dookatee=mkzelda
23:32 <Flex> i'm willing to wait
23:32 <mkzelda> :)
23:32 <Flex> for you Lucifer
23:32 <Monkey_arma> heh
23:32 <Lucifer> no, see, that's two weeks and then I'll tell you if I can play or not
23:32 <mkzelda> dont wait on me unless u really want to
23:32 <Monkey_arma> so actually people in #armagetron are awake they just lurk
23:32 <epsy> right, i've packed my useless commit
23:32 <Flex> i'm willing to risk it and wait
23:32 <Monkey_arma> dook it takes epsy 45 mins just to get the server up
23:32 <mkzelda> pretty much, nick complete me and i rise from the dead
23:32 <Lucifer> haha
23:32 <mkzelda> k
23:33 <Flex> it's already up..
23:33 <Lucifer> mkzelda:
23:33 <mkzelda> :)
23:33 <mkzelda> heading out, bbin 30
23:33 <epsy> actually it takes 30 seconds to switch the server, if you all get on spec properly
23:33 <Lucifer> hey, I might owe you a kiss or something if this valeryik actually codes
23:33 <Flex> me?
23:33 <Lucifer> no, mkzelda (hi there!)
23:34 <Flex> aw no kiss then
23:34 <Lucifer> you might do a /whois on him and see whether or not we could be carrying a conversation across channels
23:34 <Lucifer> see, most of us don't just talk over time, we also tend to keep having the same conversation over several channels
23:34 <Lucifer> whichever tab is active, wherever
23:34 <Flex> i only was caring about the kiss
23:34 <Lucifer> been known to raid #freeciv and carry on with a stupid argument
23:35 <Lucifer> oh, sorry, no kiss for you, unless you get me a programmer
23:35 <Flex> to do what
23:35 <mkzelda> very true, im on ~5 nets at ~10+ chans each
23:35 <Lucifer> robotics
23:35 <Flex> StickyNoob,
23:35 <mkzelda> and valeryik is very interested but noob, so it will be time but he's working :)
23:35 <Lucifer> hey interested and working are far more important ot me than experience
23:35 <Flex> did you pm StickyNoob, Monkey_arma ?
23:36 <Monkey_arma> yeees
23:36 <Flex> what did he say
23:36 <mkzelda> Lucifer: indeed
23:36 <Monkey_arma> he said hoax sucks
23:36 <Monkey_arma> no he didnt  reply
23:36 <Flex> ok what
23:36 <Flex> did you ask all the other people
23:36 <Monkey_arma> almost
23:36 <Lucifer> ok, I'm working on my robot right now!
23:37 <Lucifer> no more fucking off!
23:37  * Lucifer goes to smoke a cigarette
23:37 <Monkey_arma> ok anyone else in here who wants to play in the fortress match in 25 mins can  ...as you are reliable people...ish
23:37 <Lucifer> oh yeah, now I remember what keeps derailing me
23:37 <Flex> Monkey_arma, ask sucko
23:38 <Flex> in x server
23:38 <Monkey_arma> i will raid the servers now
23:38 <Monkey_arma> but no clowns
23:38 <Flex> sucko is good
23:38 <Flex> you know the one
23:38 <Lucifer> oh, I wouldn't be able to play anyway, he said "no clowns"
23:38 <Flex> we're willing to take 1 per team
23:38 <Lucifer> I get bored and start killing my teammates
23:38 <Flex> 1slot left
23:39 <Flex> myg0d
23:39 <P4> #tea
23:39 <armabot> P4: Fortress Café: Players (5/32): <<WiR>>Helena, Izual, PaTa_FoiFoi, pavelo (pavelo@forums), Raiden
23:39 <P4> can anyone kick Izual, the TKer?
23:39 <Lucifer> every now and then it's more fun to compete for shortest time on server before getting kicked
23:39 <P4> too few voters
23:39 <Monkey_arma> haha ok
23:39 <Monkey_arma> :))
23:40 <Flex> ask pavelo aswell then Monkey_arma :p
23:41 <Monkey_arma>  i will
23:41 <P4> ok, thanks
23:41 <StickyNoob> hay all
23:42 <Monkey_arma> aha StickyNoob smells fort match
23:42 <Lucifer> sure he doesn't smell robotics?
23:42 <Flex> StickyNoob, g0tmilk?
23:42 <StickyNoob> nope
23:42 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8422 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. language/english_base.txt src/engine/ePlayer.cpp): epsy46: /admin KILL could kill dead people sometimes, also added /admin SLAP, to enforce the badmin's authority.
23:42 <Lucifer> oh yeah, I had picked out a net library
23:42 <Flex> gogogo epsy
23:43 <Flex> epsy is a natural dictator for sure
23:43 <StickyNoob> when is match?
23:44 <Flex> match is 2300
23:44 <Lucifer> of course, he's french
23:44 <StickyNoob> k
23:44 <Lucifer> took them like 20 revolutions to finally establish a democracy
23:44 <Lucifer> here in the US, we got it right with 2
23:44 <Lucifer> * 1 pending
23:45 <Flex> do you like obama?
23:45 <Flex> who will you vote for?
23:45 <Lucifer> he has sexy ears
23:45 <Flex> urm..
23:45 <Lucifer> I don't know who I'm gonna vote for, I'll decide that on election day
23:45 <Lucifer> (swing voters and late deciders have all the election power that's available via voting, so I try to be both)
23:45 <Flex> obama is the man..
23:45 <Flex> seriously
23:46 <StickyNoob> revolution my ass, we didnt want America anymore
23:46 <Flex> i'm not even american and i wanna vote for him
23:46 <StickyNoob> they ruined perfectly good tea
23:47 <Flex> obama is the man!
23:47 <Flex> http://youtube.com/watch?v=Rd8kF26Cykw
23:47 <Lucifer> I see you english still haven't learned how to protest your government
23:47 <Lucifer> the two ways you can hurt any englishman are by taking his money, and taking his tea
23:47 <Flex> pfff
23:48 <Lucifer> I mean, really, you could take his wife and he wouldn't care, or take his job and he still wouldn't care, but don't you dare touch his money or his tea!
23:48 <Monkey_arma> ok if i do /admin silence izual    he can unsilence himself..how...hacker?
23:48 <epsy> Monkey_arma, rejoin
23:48 <Flex> i don't think anyone would get offended by that lol
23:48 <StickyNoob> yeah obama is very good, but I want Bill back, im just not sure if i can stand hilary to get him back
23:48 <Flex> so much for english sterotypes :p
23:48 <epsy> Monkey_arma, suspend works even upon reconnect, i'll check
23:49 <Lucifer> I want bill back, too, and i'm willing to elect Monica Lewinsky to make that happen
23:49 <Flex> bill didn't do much tbh
23:50 <Lucifer> I'm about ready to decide hillary's too emo
23:50 <Monkey_arma> its not suspend its silence
23:51 <Lucifer> people aren't attacking her for being a *woman*, they're attacking her for being *Hillary Clinton*
23:51 <Flex> yeah i agree, hillary is a sheman
23:51 <epsy> Monkey_arma, i'll check if i can export the behaviour to silence too
23:51 <Lucifer> and obama's getting a free ride int hat regard for being black, she's right about that
23:51 <Monkey_arma> but how is he chatting straight after i silence him?
23:51 <epsy> reconnect
23:51 <Lucifer> but she should try going back over JEsse Jackson's campaigns before she goes off about it
23:52 <Flex> i used to think that too till i listened to him abit more
23:52 <epsy> Apr 19 23:49:36 [5] Remote admin command by Monkey:
23:52 <Flex> i wanna vote :(((
23:52 <epsy> empty command
23:52 <Lucifer> heh, no, they really are giving him a free ride
23:52 <epsy> Monkey_arma, you send empty commands
23:52 <epsy> Apr 19 23:50:11 [5] Remote admin command by Monkey: silence pavelo
23:52 <epsy> there not
23:53 <Lucifer> they didn't give bill a free ride when he ran, and obama's campaign isn't terribly different from bill's original campaign
23:53 <Monkey_arma> ok he has hacked the server
23:53 <Flex> well really.. they have a right to do so..
23:53 <Monkey_arma> pav cant speak when i silence him
23:53 <Monkey_arma> but izual can
23:53 <epsy> Monkey_arma, try silencing izu again
23:54 <Lucifer> Flex: they have a responsibility not to do so
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23:54 <Flex> you're right but still
23:54 <Lucifer> what good is having a free press if they're slanting the news in such a way that they pick the president?
23:54 <epsy> he logs out
23:55 <Flex> well he's not just "the black president" the guy is good
23:55 <Monkey_arma> epsy now his name is not there  but it does not say he left
23:55 <epsy> and he reconnects
23:55 <epsy> yeah where you're suspended there's no spectator \1 left message
23:56 <epsy> just ban him for 24 hours
23:56 <Monkey_arma> ok
23:56 <epsy> #gcalc 24*60
23:56 <armabot> epsy: 24 * 60 = 1,440
23:56 <Flex> what's the average voting percent in america?
23:56 <Monkey_arma>  /admin ban izual 24?
23:56 <epsy> it's in minutes
23:56 <Lucifer> I think it's been somewhere around 40% for some time
23:56 <Flex> i'd be surprised if turn out isn't spectacular or near that range
23:56 <Lucifer> but the primaries have seen record turnout
23:57 <epsy> heh
23:57 <epsy> 20 000 :P
23:57 <Lucifer> we had record turnout for the gobernatorial election 2 years ago in texas

Log from 2008-04-20:
--- Day changed Sun Apr 20 2008
00:00 <Flex> do you think there's going to be a good turnout for this election?
00:00 <Flex> i have no idea.. but to me this feels quite dramatic
00:01 <Flex> the world definitely wants a different administration in america for sure
00:04 <Monkey_arma> ok we got g5
00:05 <Monkey_arma> ok epsy soon u better get fort on xserver..
00:05 <epsy> Flex can do it
00:06 <Monkey_arma> flex move you ass
00:06 <Flex> i'll join now then
00:06 <Monkey_arma> good
00:08 <Flex> why the fuck am i badmin
00:08 <Flex> you cocksucker epsy
00:08 <epsy> ?
00:09 <epsy> you've always been admin
00:09 <Flex> badmin
00:09 <Flex> b-admin
00:09 <Flex> bad-admin
00:10 <epsy> config_accesslevel_1        Badmin
00:10 <luke-jr> bold
00:10 <luke-jr> under
00:10 <luke-jr> strike
00:10 <luke-jr> both
00:10 <luke-jr> xboth
00:10 <epsy> luke-jr, channel is color-filtered
00:11 <luke-jr> epsy: liar
00:11 <epsy> #echo bold
00:11 <armabot> bold
00:11 <Flex> why are you owner and i'm a bad admin
00:11 <epsy> it is
00:11 <luke-jr> foo%Nfrr
00:11 <Flex> why aren't we all "owners"
00:11 <luke-jr> hmmm
00:11 <epsy> i'm not owner
00:11 <luke-jr> foo%,frr
00:11 <luke-jr> how to undo…
00:11 <Flex> what are you then
00:11 <luke-jr> foo%K,frr
00:11 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: so what happend to the game?
00:11 <Monkey_arma> its on
00:11 <Monkey_arma> now
00:11 <Flex> StickyNoob, come x sumo
00:11 <epsy> config_accesslevel_0        Bastard Admin From Hell
00:11 <Flex> x fort i mean
00:11 <luke-jr> badmin
00:11 <Flex> what are you epsy
00:11 <luke-jr> badmin
00:11 <epsy> config_accesslevel_0        Bastard Admin From Hell
00:11  * luke-jr ponders
00:12 <Flex> how many accel levels are there
00:12 <Flex> access
00:12 <epsy> 20
00:12 <luke-jr> #echo badmin
00:12 <armabot> badmin
00:12 <luke-jr> eh, interesting
00:12 <luke-jr> the underline goes away, but not the strike
00:12 <epsy> the strike appears as unknown char here
00:13 <epsy> that's why i guess
00:13 <Flex> epsy, what's with the tea cfg again
00:13 <Flex> fucking so gay
00:14 <Flex> how do i turn it off
00:23 <pippijn> yeey
00:23 <pippijn> scalar is so cool now
00:23 <pippijn> (this means I no longer think it's complete crap)
00:24 <pippijn> it's half-crap
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00:34 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: want to test it?
00:36 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8423 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (4 files in 2 dirs): epsy46: Voters are now wearing silenced state, letting them still sillenced when reconnecting, also, show suspended players leaving and joining.
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01:01 <pippijn> good night
01:01 <epsy> gn
01:02 <madmax> #ping
01:02 <armabot> pong
01:04 <epsy> lol, i need to ss that
01:05 <madmax> hoax: come on in
01:05 <madmax> 1200 is there
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01:11 <epsy> http://epsy46.free.fr/2008-04-20-031100_330x77_scrot.png
01:13 <epsy> full of typos commit message, as always
01:13 <epsy> right, good night
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01:15 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8424 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. language/english_base.txt src/engine/ePlayer.cpp): epsy46: AUTO_TEAM_SPEC_SPAM will hide spectator joins/part messages, as it's generally annoying in the contextts it is used in, mostly important matches and such.
01:21 <Lucifer> this guy's comma-happy
01:24 <mkzelda> back (lol)
01:25 <Lucifer> You don't have to call a read() function, that will block
01:25 <Lucifer> until data apears on the network socket, but you register a callback function,
01:25 <Lucifer> that will get called as soon, as data has been received.
01:25 <mkzelda> nice
01:26 <Lucifer> I think a little comma removal script will help that readme a lot
01:28 <Lucifer> wow, that was an easy library to integrate into my build system
01:37 <Lucifer> I'm going to wind up rewriting his api docs
01:41 <Lucifer> ok, goto in C code is a dealbreaker, I'm removing this library from my build system
01:43 -!- Joy0 [n=joy0@d-65-175-175-158.cpe.metrocast.net] has joined #armagetron
01:43 <Joy0> hello
01:44 <Joy0> i am having trouble with armagetron debug recording playback
01:44 <Joy0> wondering if anyone would be about to offer some help?
01:49 <Joy0> anyone out there
01:54 <Joy0> ,,
01:55 <Lucifer> armagetronad -h
01:55 <Joy0> Oh hello
01:56 <Joy0> would you be able to help me?
01:56 <madmax> better say what it is and wait a bit ;)
01:57 <Joy0> okk
01:57 <Joy0> well I recorded a looong file
01:57 <Joy0> tried playing it back right after i recorded it, and it worked fine
01:57 <Lucifer> yes indeed, just asking if anybody can help will yield "yes" at least as often as it'll yield "no"
01:57 <Joy0> i uploaded it without compressing to zip on megaupload.com
01:58 <Joy0> i downloaded it later and tried it, and it does nothing
01:58 <Joy0> but the file is still full of stuff. like 20mb
01:58 <Joy0> Now my orginal copy on my desktop doesnt work either, does the same as the downloaded one
01:58 <Lucifer> ok, I've changed my mind and I'm' not using somebody else's network library, I'm just going to write my own
01:59 <Lucifer> when you downloaded, did the file download to your desktop and overwrite the one you had there already?
01:59 <Joy0> no, at least i do not think
01:59 <Joy0> i probably put it away somewhere, not on my desktop
01:59 <Lucifer> desktop is default download location for every browser on Windows, afaik
01:59 <Lucifer> using windows?
01:59 <Joy0> i have so many differnet copies of it though, from trying different things to get it to work
01:59 <Joy0> yes windows
02:00 <Lucifer> probably write it off, heh
02:00 <Lucifer> you can post the recording to the forums and ask what's wrong with it
02:00 <Lucifer> but zip it yourself *with* compression, if you don't mind
02:00 <Lucifer> 20mb is a big file to ask people to download
02:00 <Joy0> yes, i forgot =p
02:00 <Joy0> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=K280EN1G
02:01 <Joy0> thats the compressed one, i tried it again earlier, so i still have link
02:02 <Lucifer> er, I'm actually in the middle of something and need a new cpu fan before I can start arma again anyway
02:02 <Lucifer> post on the forums, that's your best bet to get help on it
02:02 <Lucifer> you may have to wait a day or so before anybody looks at it, though
02:02 <Joy0> oh...
02:02 <Joy0> =(
02:02 <Joy0> urgh... it really annoys me
02:02 <Joy0> i even tried a new recording
02:02 <Joy0> i just recorded a minute or so
02:03 <Joy0> uploaded it, then downloaded it
02:03 <Joy0> didnt work
02:03 <Joy0> just opened up arma, and did nothing
02:04 <Lucifer> make sure you save the first file somewhere, verify it works, save the second file somewhere else, then run diff on it
02:04 <Lucifer> er, I guess you don't have that in windows
02:04 <Lucifer> you need to take this to the forums, that's your best bet.  this channel isn't terribly active right now
02:04 <Lucifer> mostly just me occasionally saying something useless
02:05 <Joy0> heh
02:05 <Joy0> ok...
02:06 <Joy0> rawr!! hate stuff like this
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02:37 <hoax> thx for the heads up max
02:37 <madmax> ?
02:37 <madmax> oh
02:38 <Monkey_arma> well that was certainly a turn out
02:38 <hoax> yeah gg's
02:38 <madmax> we should hijack Cafe next time, X server with 16 isn't that reliable :P
02:38 <Monkey_arma> shame i was the worst player on the grid
02:38 <Monkey_arma> but that shows the quality
02:38 <hoax> hehe
02:38 <hoax> gn :>
02:38 <madmax> cya
02:39 <Monkey_arma> cu
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02:44 <Flex> lol i think wrtlprnft wouldn't like that
02:44 <madmax> he doesn't need to know!
02:45 <Flex> he dows now :p
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02:45 <Flex> #rating flex
02:45 <armabot> Flex: flex is 477th with a rating of 1586-1636 (from 1588-1634)
02:45 <Flex> #rating |x|_flex
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02:45 <armabot> Flex: |x|_flex is 476th with a rating of 1586-1625 (from 1586-1636)
02:46 <Flex> pff is x sumo connected?
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02:46 <Flex> oh oh
02:46 <Flex> #rating flex@x
02:46 <armabot> Flex: I don't know anything about 'flex@x'!
02:46 <Flex> luke-jr you suck
02:47 <Flex> candy
02:47 <luke-jr> Flex: f u
02:47 <Flex> xxx
02:47 <luke-jr> not my fault you can't learn
02:48 <Flex> what do i have to learn
02:48 <luke-jr> #rating 0:flex@x
02:48 <armabot> luke-jr: I don't know anything about '0:flex@x'!
02:48 <madmax> lol
02:48 <Flex> ha
02:48 <luke-jr> how to play I guess
02:48 <madmax> alright, good night
02:48 <Flex> gn
02:48 <luke-jr> madmax: play TWG2?
02:49 <madmax> mmm don't think so
02:49 <Flex> Monkey_arma, you wasn't the worse player
02:49 <Monkey_arma> Flex, wrong
02:49 <Flex> why do you think that?
02:50 <Flex> my teams pwned hardc0re
02:50 <Flex> your team fell apart badly :p
02:50 <Monkey_arma> because , you, hoax, noob13, max, maz, durka, lack, and so on were better
02:51 <Monkey_arma> ady, cyclo...
02:51 <Flex> i'd choose you first for my team :p
02:53 <luke-jr> Flex: Monkey_arma are you guys playing?
02:53 <Flex> we was
02:54 <Monkey_arma> g5...
02:54 <Monkey_arma> yep i was bottom.....
02:55 <Monkey_arma> i play better on cafe it seems but thats no excuse
02:55 <luke-jr> I mean TWG
02:55 <Flex> wtf is twg
02:55 <luke-jr> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18374
02:55 <Monkey_arma> the werewolf game
02:56 <Monkey_arma> i am not sure
02:56 <Flex> fuck that
02:56 <Flex> that's gay
02:56 <luke-jr> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18384 = current game
02:56 <Flex> Monkey_arma, i don't get it.. you want a 7v7 or something like that, but you have shitty fps
02:56 <Flex> one of the reasons why i prefer 4v4, lag and fps is fine for everyone
02:57 <Flex> nobody can feel disadvantaged or the latter
02:57 <Monkey_arma> flex i played the same on 4v4
02:57 <Monkey_arma> at the end with 4v4 i was as bad
02:57 <Monkey_arma> and 7v7 is more fun
02:57 <Monkey_arma> i will get fps in next 10 days anyway so ...
02:59 <Flex> luke-jr, where's my rating for my flex@x
02:59 <luke-jr> Flex: never played apparently
02:59 <luke-jr> unless
02:59 <luke-jr> #rating 0:Flex@x
02:59 <armabot> luke-jr: 0:Flex@x is 476th with a rating of 1586-1625 (from 1586-1636)
02:59 <Flex> that's bullshit
02:59 <Flex> fuck you!!!!!
03:00 <luke-jr> blame whoever decided case sensitivity was up to the authority
03:00 <luke-jr> #aka 0:Flex@x
03:00 <Flex> how do i look at my specs
03:00 <luke-jr> specs?
03:00 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿23355 theif's_theme |x|_flex 0:|x|_flex@L_OP 0:Flex@x
03:01 <Flex> like details
03:01 <luke-jr> um
03:01 <Flex> i guess it was mixed with my other names
03:01 <luke-jr> { echo 'raw_rating 0:Flex@x'; sleep 5; } | telnet hachi.dashjr.org 9999
03:01 <luke-jr> or something like that
03:01 <Flex> so what i gotta create a different nick so i can smurf and take care of my rating
03:01 <Flex> so much for a "good" global rating
03:01 <luke-jr> smurf?
03:02 <Flex> yes smurf
03:02 <luke-jr> I only know English well
03:03 <Flex> smurf like use a different nick
03:03 <Flex> different alias
03:03 <luke-jr> sure, it keeps track of them ☺
03:03 <Flex> with ips?
03:03 <luke-jr> nah, with renames
03:04 <Flex> well that's not really an issue
03:04 <luke-jr> people share IPs
03:04 <Flex> by the way, have you got rid of your mustache? :p
03:04 <luke-jr> no
03:04 <luke-jr> …
03:04 <Flex> dude.. it's not the 60's
03:04 <Flex> it's not cool!
03:05 <luke-jr> what do I care?
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03:05 <joy0> hello
03:05 <luke-jr> wtf are you
03:05 <Monkey_arma> joy0, just incase you think luke-jr was talking to you he was not
03:05 <Monkey_arma> hello
03:06 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: I was so
03:06 <Flex> hah
03:06 <Flex> why don't you care luke-jr .....
03:06 <luke-jr> Flex: why should I?
03:06 <Flex> it doesn't cost you money to look cool
03:06 <luke-jr> sure it does
03:06 <Flex> actually cool is the wrong word.. maybe urm
03:06 <luke-jr> would need to buy shaving stuff
03:07 <luke-jr> and spend time on it
03:07 <luke-jr> time is money too
03:07 <Stewie-arma> you don't have a razor?
03:07 <Flex> his weak ass attempt to prove a point
03:07 <luke-jr> why should I?
03:07 <Stewie-arma> pfft, what kind of point is he trying to make?
03:07 <Flex> dude you shave your jaw no?
03:07 <luke-jr> actually, Flex is the one trying to make a point
03:07 <joy0> i am having a problem uploading debug recording for playback, i created a long recording, tested it and it worked fine. Then I upload it unzipped once and zipped once and both times when i downloaded it then try to play it back it didnt work
03:08 <Flex> joy0, try the forums, people are sleeping now
03:08 <joy0> it just brought up a armagetron client, no recording
03:08 <Flex> there's a 'support' section
03:09 <Flex> also joy0 make sure it's in the correct location
03:09 <joy0> i know
03:09 <Flex> and the only recording in the folder
03:09 <joy0> what do you mean?
03:09 <joy0> what folder?
03:09 <Flex> what os do you use
03:09 <joy0> i just have the recording on my desktop
03:09 <joy0> windows
03:09 <joy0> i opened it in a text app and it is full of info
03:09 <joy0> just doesnt work
03:10 <Flex> ok, try this
03:10 <joy0> once i uploaded it then downloaded it
03:10 <Flex> make a copy of your file so you don't loose it before trying this:
03:10 <Flex> make a new recording, and watch where it appears
03:10 <Monkey_arma> and sticky ! i forgot sticky
03:10 <Flex> play back and if the same file plays then you're at the right location
03:11 <luke-jr> is sticky very sticky?
03:11 <Flex> move your recording that you want to watch to the same location
03:11 <Flex> replace it, and see if it plays back
03:11 <joy0> ive already tried that
03:11 <joy0> it is my desktop, that is the location
03:12 <noob13> :P
03:12 <joy0> ive tried renaming it to ArmagetronAdvancedDebugRecording.aarec
03:12 <Flex> C:\Documents and Settings\[USERNAME]\Desktop\
03:12 <joy0> but nothing works, just a client pops up and the recording does not commence
03:12 <Flex> -playback "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Desktop\ArmagetronAdvancedDebugRecording.aarec"
03:13 <Flex> try putting it in C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Desktop\ArmagetronAdvancedDebugRecording.aarec
03:13 <joy0> put it where?
03:13 <Flex> my computer> local disk
03:13 <Flex> C:\Documents and Settings
03:13 <Flex> All Users
03:13 <Flex> Desktop
03:14 <joy0> ok its there
03:14 <Flex> playback
03:14 <Flex> see if it works
03:14 <joy0> a window pops up and nothing goes
03:14 <Flex> try again with a different recording
03:15 <Flex> or keep trying with that file
03:15 <Flex> restart playback
03:15 <joy0> a different one works
03:15 <Flex> then it's your file
03:15 <Flex> corrupted on the way or something
03:16 <joy0> thats the thing
03:16 <joy0> no matter if i zip the file or leave it uncompressed
03:16 <joy0> when i upload it , it gets ruined
03:16 <Lucifer> I hate to say it, but the most likely answer is that the service you uploaded it to corrupted it, and you overwrote it when you downloaded it to test
03:16 <joy0> i try downloading it again and nothing works
03:16 <Flex> yeah, you should of zipped it
03:16 <Lucifer> it can't get ruined on upload, the web browser only reads it
03:16 <joy0> its megaupload.com
03:17 <Lucifer> well, if it's IE, anything goes, that thing will screw up butter
03:17 <luke-jr> lol
03:17 <joy0> or something close ot that, which a lot of people use
03:17 <Flex> do not put it on your "desktop" because it reads in "ALL USERS" and it might appear in your desktop but once you move it around it will go into your "user" (that you're logged in now) section
03:17  * Flex blames arma
03:17  * luke-jr blames Flex
03:17 <joy0> rar... hate this
03:17 <Flex> for doing it weird
03:18 <joy0> could I try uploading a very small file for you guys?
03:18 <luke-jr> Arma doesn't do anything weird :þ
03:18 <Lucifer> ?  how does arma do it weird?
03:18 <Flex> it does
03:18 <luke-jr> it's a fscking text file
03:18 <Lucifer> I didn't ask if it did, I asked *how* it did
03:18 <Flex> it should create it's own folder in "my doc"
03:18 <luke-jr> …
03:19 <luke-jr> debug recordings are a debugging tool
03:19 <luke-jr> not a toy for n00bs
03:19 <Lucifer> for debug recordings?  You know, something that you're supposed to use when you have a BUG to report?
03:19 <Flex> it's the same thing for recordings
03:19 <Lucifer> it's like any other debug output, whatever's most convenient for the developer is what is used :)
03:19 <Flex> what's the problem with putting it in my docs?
03:19 <Flex> it's too advanced for that place huh
03:19 <luke-jr> it doesn't put it anywhere
03:19 <luke-jr> except where you tell it to
03:19 <Lucifer> might give it the idea that this is supposed to be used for things besides DEBUG recordings :)
03:20 <Flex> well the default location is just wrong :p
03:20 <Lucifer> maybe someday we'll have a recording format that's more generic, and intended to be used by regular end-users to record and share their games
03:20 <luke-jr> Flex: *Windows* determines your "default location"
03:20 <Monkey_arma> speaking of bugs, today in our match people were getting kicked off their teams for no reason
03:20 <Lucifer> there isn't really a "default" location, you can start up a cmd.exe shell and put it anywhere you want....
03:20 <luke-jr> Armagetron does not put it anywhere specific
03:21 <Flex> i'm just saying, it will make life easier if arma placed it's recordings in my docs
03:21 <Lucifer> it puts it in the easiest place for a quick upload to the forums or a bug tracker
03:21 <luke-jr> I'd vote to drop Windows support before that.
03:21 <joy0> where do you guys suggest i upload it to?
03:21 <luke-jr> joy0: the forums
03:21 <Lucifer> the forums :)
03:21 <joy0> ugh
03:21 <joy0> anywhere else?
03:21 <Lucifer> if you have an actual bug to report, there's a bug tracker on launchpad
03:21 <Flex> it places it in "all users" desktop, then the guy looks on his desktop which shows files in the "all users" desktop section
03:21 <joy0> this is just for a debug recording test
03:21 <luke-jr> there is nowhere else appropriate
03:21 <Flex> and bla bla confusion bla bla
03:22 <Flex> there is
03:22 <Flex> c:/arma recordings
03:22 <luke-jr> Flex: no, Windows places Arma there
03:22 <Flex> done
03:22 <Lucifer> hack your registry and fix it?  Then make a patch for the .nsi file?
03:22 <Flex> why me!
03:22 <Lucifer> it's not something arma does directly, the command is created on the registry when you install the game
03:22 <Flex> my point is for others, not me
03:22 <Lucifer> because you're the one hurting by it :)
03:22 <Flex> i'm not in need of a better location
03:23 <Lucifer> oh, right, "I don't want to fix it, I just want to complain"
03:23 <luke-jr> Flex: nobody cares but you
03:23 <Lucifer> ironically, now I remember who you are :)
03:23  * Lucifer goes back to his robot
03:23 <Flex> ironically.. jeez
03:24 <luke-jr> Flex: figure out why Windows is putting them in that directory and fix it ☺
03:24 <luke-jr> Armagetron is not picking any location
03:24 <Flex> it is
03:24 <Flex> the url is there
03:24 <joy0> http://www.uploading.com/files/N9QBDWJM/ArmagetronAdvancedDebugRecording.zip.html
03:24 <luke-jr> nope
03:24 <Flex> i'm not making it up
03:25 <joy0> i uploaded it to a different place
03:25 <joy0> super small test file
03:27 <joy0> wow... it actually worked this time
03:28 <joy0> so it is just that one file
03:28 <joy0> which happens to have the information i actually need
03:31 <Lucifer> what information does it have that you need?
03:31 <Lucifer> I ask because it's just a plaintext file, you can open it in a text editor :)
03:32 <Flex> Lucifer, i don't know where you're remembering me from, but if there was something i could fix, i would fix it, so i don't know what you're talking about or trying to protray
03:33 <Lucifer> ok, then get a source release and look at the .nsi file that builds the installer
03:33 <Flex> as far as i know, our first conformation was when i oppened a thread to suggest some ideas i had with the console and other things.. and you called my thread "ironic" for some weird.. as if i've rejected my own ideas
03:34 <Lucifer> probably doesn't take any programming or anything to do whatever you're wanting to do, just testing (which I can't do, because I don't use windows)
03:34 <Flex> nice way of introducing yourself i'll also add.
03:35 <Flex> i'm going bed
03:37 <Monkey_arma> oO
03:44 <Lucifer> #google 4096 bytes in kilobytes
03:44 <Lucifer> heh
03:44 <armabot> Lucifer: Search took 0.16 seconds: Number and size limits of a cookie in Internet Explorer: <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306070>; twocanoes.com :: View topic - 64 gigs drive image is 644 kilobytes: <http://twocanoes.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=2865&sid=3b2ac31956a8292f3049fdd1a6b36b7f>; scalability.org » Blog Archive » … and 8 simultaneous buffered ...: <http://scalability.org/?p=547>; (2 more messages)
03:44 <Lucifer> awww
03:45 <Lucifer> ok good, I'm not smoking crack
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03:51 <joy0> "what information does it have that you need? "
03:51 <joy0> the recording of a tournament
03:52 <Lucifer> hmmmm, you might be screwed
03:52 <Lucifer> best thing to do is determine if the original file is anywhere on your hard drive
03:52 <joy0> perhaps it something ireeversible
03:53 <Lucifer> I'm serious that there's no way doing the upload could have borked the original
03:53 <joy0> 2 hr tournament down the drain
03:53 <Lucifer> so the most logical conclusion is that it was overwritten on download, accidentally (which is surprisingly common)
03:53 <Lucifer> well, depends on what you're looking for in the recording still
03:53 <Lucifer> the score might still be there, but you may have to do some work to get it out
03:53 <joy0> how would the place where i uploaded it ruin it?
03:53 <Lucifer> it *wouldn't*
03:54 <joy0> huh?
03:54 <Lucifer> I'm saying it's most likely when you downloaded it to see if it worked, the place that ruined it sent you a broken file that overwrote your old one
03:54 <Lucifer> er, maybe I misunderstood the question
03:54 <Lucifer> the place you uploaded it to could have ruined it any dozens of ways
03:54 <joy0> ugh
03:54 <Lucifer> maybe they used a broken zip implementation?
03:54 <joy0> i uploaded it aarec
03:54 <joy0> not zipped
03:55 <Lucifer> right......
03:55 <joy0> i still have the orginal link
03:55 <joy0> when i firts uploaded it
03:55 <joy0> when i first*
03:55 <Lucifer> do you have the original file?
03:55 <joy0> I think I do, its hard to tell
03:55 <joy0> i tried so many different things, tons of copies
03:55 <Lucifer> look at the date last modified on the file
03:55 <joy0> i possible could have deleted it
03:55 <Lucifer> assuming you know when you created it
03:56 <joy0> 4:18
03:56 <Lucifer> well, see, if the file is that important to you, you generally back it up before doing anything else with it :)
03:56 <joy0> well, see, im dumb
03:56  * Lucifer puts everything in version control as soon as he makes it
03:56 <joy0> 4:18 sounds about right
03:56 <joy0> the tournament started around 3pm
03:56 <joy0> finished around then
03:56 <Lucifer> right-click on any file and choose "properties", and you'll get a dialog that has in it something saying when the file was last modified
03:56 <joy0> i know
03:57 <joy0> i checked it already
03:57 <joy0> 4:18
03:57 <Lucifer> if you accidentally overwrote the original when you downloaded from that site to check, it should show
03:57 <Lucifer> then upload it to the forums
03:57 <Lucifer> or post there and link the one at the othe rplace
03:57 <Lucifer> something
03:57 <Lucifer> you need someone besides me (most likely z-man) to download it and look at it
03:57 <Lucifer> state which version of arma you used to make it, of course
03:59 <joy0> currently downloading orginal file
03:59 <joy0> 14%!
03:59 <joy0> 20%
04:00 <joy0> 45%
04:00 <Lucifer> um, I don't think I made myself clear
04:00 <Lucifer> the original file that existed before you uploaded it to that place
04:01 <Lucifer> you can just post a link to that other place, no need to upload it, if you want us to look at that file
04:01 <joy0> i am downloading the orginal file i uploaded
04:01 <joy0> to compare dates with the file i have now
04:01 <joy0> which i think is the same
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04:03 <joy0> uhh
04:04 <joy0> the one i downloaded just said everything was modified and created and acessed at the same time
04:04 <joy0> now, when i downloaded it
04:06 <luke-jr> joy0: why are you trying to use debug recordings anyhow?
04:09 <joy0> To record matches and distribute them.
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04:10 <luke-jr> fair
04:10 <luke-jr> fail*
04:10 <FroZen2> Hmm
04:11 <FroZen2> "FroZen2"
04:12 <Monkey_arma> hi
04:12 <luke-jr> …
04:12 <Monkey_arma> a few new names tonight...
04:12 <luke-jr> what's with all the n00bs?
04:13 <FroZen2> Was my name changed to "FroZen2" because I need to log in as "FroZen"
04:14 <luke-jr> you can't login as FroZen
04:15 <FroZen2> It is taken?
04:15 <luke-jr> yes
04:15 <FroZen2> Hmm
04:15 <FroZen2> Well, I am FroZen.
04:16 <FroZen2> I do not remember how to login, or where to enter a password.
04:16 <luke-jr> no you're not
04:16 <luke-jr> the real frozen is connected already
04:17 <luke-jr> from Seattle
04:17 <FroZen2> Huh?
04:17 <luke-jr> [21:20:59] [Whois] frozen is i=blueclou@seattle.rh.rit.edu (R.J. Kidd)
04:17 <luke-jr> [21:20:59] [Whois] frozen is online via irc.freenode.net (http://freenode.net/).
04:17 <FroZen2> I do not see a FroZen in this room.
04:17 <luke-jr> he's not in this room
04:17 <FroZen2> Ah, I see.
04:17 <FroZen2> So someone is already registered under my name.
04:18 <luke-jr> minus the 2, yes
04:18 <FroZen2> That is a bummer.
04:22 <Lucifer> maybe if I mix some tea with this wine it'll be easier to drink
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06:22 <Lucifer> yay!  finally got my udp thingee working
06:22 <Lucifer> now I can do some real work :)
06:40 <Lucifer> bastard!
06:40 <Lucifer> last cup of tea in the pitcher, and while I'm pouring it, this moth flies into the stream and dies!
06:41 <Lucifer> luke-jr: you gonna get your wife into irc for this game?
06:50 <luke-jr> maybe
06:50 <luke-jr> or she might just read the forum
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07:08 <Lucifer> who's this ttech guy?
07:10 <Lucifer> if she just reads the forums, she'll miss a lot of the game
07:10 <Ttech> Lucifer,  a maniac
07:10 <Ttech> she?
07:10 <Ttech> She?!
07:10 <Ttech> go die
07:10 <Lucifer> heh, I just noticed you in #python and got curious
07:10 <Ttech> he would be more correct
07:10 <Ttech> And I'm in many places
07:10 <luke-jr> Lucifer: guess I'll install Konversation on her laptop then
07:11 <Lucifer> no, the she I was talking about was a different conversation
07:11  * luke-jr snickers.
07:11 <Lucifer> yeah, I already finished stalking ttech, lost interest, heh
07:11 <Lucifer> stalling
07:11 <Lucifer> I need to start designing my network protocol, and I don't want to
07:12 <Lucifer> I just...plain...don't...want...to
07:12 <luke-jr> make Ttech do it
07:12 <Lucifer> ttech: write my network protocol, now!
07:13 <Ttech> Lucifer,  come on DevNode
07:14 <Ttech> irc://irc.devnode.org/programming and talk to duck
07:15 <Lucifer> is this one of those situations where I go over there and then he says "$2000!"?
07:16 <Ttech> Lucifer,  no
07:16 <Ttech> Not at all
07:16 <luke-jr> lol
07:19 <Lucifer> bahahahaha
07:19 <Ttech> Lucifer,  You got lucky
07:25 <Lucifer> I got unlucky
07:26 <Lucifer> I'm a grab a smoke and then see if I can at least define a header and write a handshake before I crash
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08:21 <Stewie-arma> #weather 92037
08:21 <armabot> Stewie-arma: The current temperature in La Jolla Shores, La Jolla, California is 56.3°F (11:25 PM PDT on April 19, 2008). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 42.8°F. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Rising).
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08:31 <Durka> #m Manta email me please: durkadurkamj@gmail.com
08:31 <armabot> Durka: The operation succeeded.
08:31 <Durka> #m Manta (we need to talk)
08:31 <armabot> Durka: The operation succeeded.
08:34 <wrtlprnft> #later tell epsy the 0xRESETT in player_admin_slap_win and player_admin_slap_lose is unnecessary, AddScore handles that automatically
08:34 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
08:35 <Durka> luke-jr: are u alive?
08:36 <Durka> is 0xRESETT what I think it is?
08:37 <wrtlprnft> Durka: what do you think it is?
08:38 <Durka> wrtlprnft: for some reason I'm thinking it would reset the color of someone's text to 0xffff7f
08:38 <Durka> like 0xff0000def 0xRESETTdown
08:38 <Durka> would really be 0xff0000def 0xffff7fdown
08:38 <Durka> but I'm probably way wrong :P
08:39 <wrtlprnft> no. it resets it to the default color of the textbox
08:39 <wrtlprnft> which is usually white in the console
08:39 <wrtlprnft> but when voodoo makes the console a cockpit widget he may make its default color configurable
08:40 <wrtlprnft> Durka: where it's useful right now is in server names. 0xRESETT blinks when you hover it, 0xffffff doesn't (or does less)
08:40 <Durka> o gotcha
08:40 <Durka> yea I noticed that
08:41 <wrtlprnft> unfortunately few server admins seem to know that :-(
08:41 <wrtlprnft> all those ID servers for example
08:41 <wrtlprnft> someone should get their admin
08:42 <Durka> QUARG is the admin
08:43 <wrtlprnft> QUARG: hi there.
08:43 <wrtlprnft> ;-)
08:43 <Durka> wrtlprnft: you should change the name of cafe to
08:43 <Durka> er i dont feel like typing it out
08:43 <Durka> but for the first 4 letters: F0xffffffo0xRESETTr0xfffffft
08:43 <Durka> every other letter blinks ;P
08:44 <wrtlprnft> heh, i want to see how that looks
08:44 <Durka> the only thing I could think that would screw up is online server browsers
08:44 <Durka> i guess i could just put a str replace for RESETT as ffffff
08:44 <Durka> since <font color="RESETT"> i dont think exists
08:45 <Durka> :D
08:46 <wrtlprnft> :-)
08:46 <wrtlprnft> hmm, i was wrong about the blinking
08:47 <wrtlprnft> weird
08:47 <wrtlprnft> i'll have to check on that later
08:48 <Durka> what time is it GMT right now?
08:49 <wrtlprnft> 6:50
08:49 <wrtlprnft> #unload time
08:49 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
08:49 <wrtlprnft> #unload time
08:49 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
08:49 <wrtlprnft> #load Time2
08:49 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
08:49 <wrtlprnft> #gmzime
08:50 <wrtlprnft> #gmtime
08:50 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 06:57 AM, April 20, 2008
08:57 <wrtlprnft> #gmtime
08:57 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 06:57 AM, April 20, 2008
08:57 <wrtlprnft> now it's actually correct :-)
09:04 <Durka> wrtlprnft: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18389
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09:05 <Durka> wait, weren't you in the matches?
09:05  * Durka has amnesia :S
09:08 <wrtlprnft> Durka: no, i wasn't
09:08 <Durka> o heh
09:10 <Lucifer> wrtlprnft: is voodoo really going to do that?
09:10 <Lucifer> er, make the console a cockpit widget, that is
09:11 <wrtlprnft> he was talking about it
09:11 <wrtlprnft> together with that camview widget
09:11 <Lucifer> man, if he does that, that might be worth an unchecked commit :)
09:13 <Durka> the camview widget aint working right
09:13 <Durka> but i'm off to go play some halo ftw
09:13 <Lucifer> Durka: yes it does, we just dropped support for your OS
09:13 <Durka> you dropped support for linux?
09:14 <Durka> Lucifer: pwnt
09:14 <wrtlprnft> for your distribution
09:14 <Lucifer> nt mac fanboy
09:14 <Durka> voodoo has a mac too ;)
09:14 <Lucifer> then complain to him if it's not working right for you :)
09:14 <Durka> (I already did and he said he knew and he's working on a new one)
09:14 <Lucifer> at least, until it shows up in the trunk....
09:15  * Durka is always one step ahead of Luci :P)
09:15 <Durka> alright cya
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09:15 <Lucifer> if he ws always one step ahead of me, wrtlpwned would have finished the worm game
09:17 <wrtlprnft> #later tell epsy i like your permanent silence feature, but will someone who's silenced and rejoins ever be voiced again?
09:17 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
09:20 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8425 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. NEWS language/english_base.txt src/engine/ePlayer.cpp): wrtlprnft: fixed a typo, removed useless 0xRESETT and an access level setter to Administrator (that's the default), and documented some changes in NEWS
09:27 <wrtlprnft> #later tell epsy binaries are updated again
09:27 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
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10:06 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8426 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/ePlayer.cpp src/tools/tString.cpp):
10:06 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft: made use of the new 0xRESETT tColorStringProxies. Also removed a lot
10:06 <armabot> armagetronad: of tabs that made the code unreadable at tabstop=4 (unfortunately we settled to
10:06 <armabot> armagetronad: use spaces for indentation, I agree that using tabs at the beginning of lines
10:06 <armabot> armagetronad: would have been way better)
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12:15 <joda_bot> z-man-work: wrtlprnft: Lucifer: https://answers.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+question/28842 Why was that mouse behaviour changed in the first place (is that a side effect of the glancing behaviour)
12:18 <wrtlprnft_opera> is it just me or is lp terribly slow right now?
12:19 <wrtlprnft> joda_bot: is that person talking about→0.2.8?
12:20 <wrtlprnft> or about the trunk?
12:20 <pippijn> wrtlprnft:
12:20 <pippijn>   s = "20 apples"; std::cout << s << '\n';
12:20 <pippijn>   s += 10; std::cout << s << '\n';
12:20 <pippijn> output:
12:20 <pippijn> 20 apples
12:20 <pippijn> 30 apples
12:20 <joda_bot> no he is talking about -> 0.2.8 I guess
12:21 <wrtlprnft> joda_bot: no clue, i never really played
12:21 <joda_bot> at least my mouse glancing behaviour was broken
12:21 <wrtlprnft> mouse glancing IS definitely broken
12:21 <wrtlprnft> but i recall it was in 0.2.7 as well
12:21 <wrtlprnft> pippijn: is s a string or a scalar?
12:21 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: scalar
12:21 <joda_bot> ok, the bug is more or less that the mouse glancing does not rotate about the current cycle's center, but some point far behind the cycle
12:22 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: it throws if there was no number in the scalar
12:22 <joda_bot> also it does not keep the rotation when moving along, but always rotates back to centered pos
12:22 <wrtlprnft> neat
12:22 <joda_bot> that's the point that is broken in
12:22 <joda_bot> as far as I tested it
12:22 <wrtlprnft> i have no clue why it is?
12:22 <wrtlprnft> is it broken in the same way in 0.2.7?
12:22 <joda_bot> Never touched that code, so no idea
12:23 <wrtlprnft> me neither
12:23 <joda_bot> did not test 0.7
12:23 <joda_bot> 2.7
12:23 <joda_bot> meritron (?) might know he made a lot of glancing code experiments
12:23 <joda_bot> is he around ?
12:23 <wrtlprnft> haven't seen him for some time
12:23 <joda_bot> hmmm
12:24 <pippijn>   s = "I have 20 apples"; std::cout << s << '\n';
12:24 <pippijn>   s += 10; std::cout << s << '\n';
12:24 <pippijn> throws with  what():  Invalid attempt to add number to non-numeric in operator+=
12:24 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: it now also works with s * 10
12:24 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: and reserve()s before doing it
12:24 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/txt/092a1e54846c8a1fc3129274c968abf5.txt
12:24 <wrtlprnft> php++?
12:25 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/txt/f6cdc3face9b54d654e26ee39dcb4424.txt <- any way to optimise this?
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12:26 <wrtlprnft> the first paste of yours can still be optimized :-)
12:26 <pippijn> correct
12:26 <pippijn>       std::string const &val = lhs;
12:26 <pippijn> oh wait
12:26 <pippijn> no
12:26 <pippijn> can't
12:26 <wrtlprnft> yes
12:26 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: how?
12:26 <wrtlprnft> can
12:26 <wrtlprnft> ;-=
12:26 <pippijn> can't
12:27 <wrtlprnft> lhs.reserve (lhs.length () * rhs);
12:27 <pippijn> it will be a reference to lhs
12:27 <pippijn> uhm
12:27 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: how?
12:27 <wrtlprnft> std::string::const_iterator end = lhs.end();
12:27 <wrtlprnft> for(blah)
12:27 <wrtlprnft> lhs.append(lhs.begin(), end);
12:27 <wrtlprnft> dunno if that's legal
12:28 <pippijn> o_o
12:28 <pippijn> append?
12:28 <pippijn> ah
12:28 <pippijn> yes
12:28 <pippijn> hmm
12:29 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: what if it relocates?
12:29 <wrtlprnft> shouldn't because you called reserve
12:29 <pippijn> right
12:29 <pippijn> I wonder if it's legal
12:29 <wrtlprnft> alternatively use lhs.append(lhs, 0, <old length>)
12:29 <pippijn> that should be as fast
12:29 <pippijn> and possibly more safe
12:30 <wrtlprnft> might be as illegal, though
12:30 <pippijn> why?
12:30 <wrtlprnft> if it's a really stupid implementation that ignores reserve() and reallocates right in the middle of copying
12:30 <joda_bot> pippijn: in the second one , double num is not initialized... (or is it ?)
12:30 <wrtlprnft> joda_bot: it is
12:30 <wrtlprnft> is >> num
12:31 <pippijn> joda_bot: that's why I check if (is >> num)
12:31 <wrtlprnft> extraces num from is
12:31 <joda_bot> ah right you read it in the if line :-P
12:31 <joda_bot> argh
12:31 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: >> may not initialise it
12:31 <pippijn> but if it doesn't then the condition fails
12:31 <wrtlprnft> true
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12:37 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/txt/c8a94ec01a3fcfe24773d8c489bcbad2.txt
12:37 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: look how easy it is to define rules for valid operations
12:38 <joda_bot> wrtlprnft: will the changes you made to "ladderlog" be automatically merged to armagetron-sty ?
12:39 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: what does your name mean?
12:39 <wrtlprnft> joda_bot: the next time someone merges
12:39 <wrtlprnft> pippijn: what the hell is that? a template of templates?
12:39 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: nested template in a template class
12:40 <wrtlprnft> ah, right. I always define those in the interface
12:40 <pippijn> template<typename> struct foo { template<typename> struct bar; };
12:40 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: I can't do that
12:40 <pippijn> the interfaces are generated
12:40 <pippijn> these rules are manually added
12:40 <wrtlprnft> ah
12:41 <wrtlprnft> pippijn: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Valentin#Gefl.C3.BCgelte_Worte_Valentins
12:41 <wrtlprnft> pippijn: it's a variation of that
12:41 <pippijn> ah
12:41 <wrtlprnft> (assuming that you can read german if you have a german keyboard)
12:41 <pippijn> I can ;-)
12:42 <pippijn> hmm
12:42 <pippijn> interesting :-)
12:42 <wrtlprnft> pippijn: my math teacher in grade 4 used to use that name in exercises (or another variation of it)
12:43 <pippijn> oh
12:43 <wrtlprnft> pippijn: like, herr wrtlprnft kauft 5 äpfel zum preis von je .3DM, etc
12:43 <pippijn> :-D
12:43 <pippijn> how nice of him
12:44 <wrtlprnft> and well, the first time i had to pick a nick to register somewhere I tried to spell it and used it as a nickname
12:44 <pippijn> I see
12:44 <wrtlprnft> it turns out this name isn't taken anywhere, so it's a better choice than Lucifer or Joda, of which there are millions
12:44 <pippijn> people have interesting stories about their nick
12:44 <pippijn> my nick is just my name
12:45 <pippijn> and my name isn't taken anywhere either
12:45 <wrtlprnft> good for you :-) mathias is probably too common, even though it's an uncommon spelling
12:46 <wrtlprnft> joda_bot: now they're merged.
12:47 <joda_bot> hehe ;)
12:47 <joda_bot> have to reboot
12:48 <joda_bot> will be back later ... somehow the fan control of the notebook seems to be gone
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12:50 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: how can I optimise the first?
12:50 <wrtlprnft> ?
12:50 <pippijn> er
12:50 <pippijn> the second
12:50 <pippijn> op+=
12:50  * wrtlprnft is no optimisation expert, but i'll have a look at it
12:52 <wrtlprnft> well, copying the entire string into an istringstream sounds inefficient, but I don't know a way around that
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12:52 <wrtlprnft> besides atoi, which isn't very c++y
12:52 <pippijn> right
12:52 <pippijn> I want to be c++y
12:52 <wrtlprnft> ;-)
12:52 <pippijn> and I would be using strtol anyways
12:53 <wrtlprnft> same general idea
12:53 <pippijn> yes
12:53 <pippijn> except that strtol is both faster and more safe
12:53 <pippijn> s/more safe/safer/
12:54 <epsy> wrtlprnft, can you update your binaries ?
12:54 <wrtlprnft> err, they should be already
12:54 <wrtlprnft> At revision 8426.
12:54 <epsy> 820 fixes an horrible bug X_x
12:55 <wrtlprnft> maybe it's time to use bzr on my server, too
12:56 <wrtlprnft> pippijn: i don't see a c++y way, but several non-c++y ways
12:56 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: I see several non-c++y ways
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12:56 <wrtlprnft> including not rewriting the string if the number's length doesn't change
12:57 <Flex> wrtlprnft, update :D
12:57 <pippijn> I could just return if rhs is 0
12:57 <pippijn> that would help a bit
12:57 <pippijn> but I'm not sure whether the branch is worth it
12:57 <pippijn> I doubt += 0 happens a lo
12:57 <pippijn> t
12:57 <wrtlprnft> Flex: haha, i just read the log message
12:58 <Flex> lol
12:58 <Flex> 'darn'
12:59 <epsy> one fucking line :P
12:59 <wrtlprnft> done
13:01 <wrtlprnft> “enjoy the silence”
13:02 <Flex> epsy is a control freak
13:02 <Flex> seriously, he'll eat your soulszzz
13:03  * wrtlprnft wonders if 5 nested for loops are a Good Thing
13:03 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8427 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/eVoter.cpp): epsy46: woops, everyone could get silenced right upon connection
13:12 <wrtlprnft> epsy: there we go, now i'm using bzr for getting arma's source code
13:14 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/txt/475604d31d2e7e08983e44b8d6f89815.txt
13:14 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: that's the rule for modulo
13:15 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: how would you format it?
13:18 <pippijn> you know what I regard as one the coolest things of scalar?
13:18 <pippijn>   s = &std::cout; std::cout << s << '\n';
13:18 <pippijn>   std::ostream *out = s; *out << "Hello world\n";
13:18 <pippijn> this :-)
13:18 <pippijn> output:
13:18 <pippijn> 0x615a20
13:18 <pippijn> Hello world
13:19 <Flex> hello pippijn
13:19 <pippijn> hi Flex
13:19 <Flex> hello pippijn
13:19 <pippijn> ?
13:19 <Flex> ?
13:19  * Flex high fives
13:23 <wrtlprnft> pippijn: your formatting looks ok to me…
13:23 <pippijn> okay
13:24 <wrtlprnft> and your coolest thing is crazy ;-)
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13:24 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: it's lovely
13:24 <pippijn> I can store pointers to arbitrary data in it
13:25 <pippijn> I just don't get any type checking..
13:25 <pippijn> I could implement it, though
13:25 <pippijn> by storing a pointer to the typeid of the pointer along with the pointer itself
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13:30  * wrtlprnft thought typeid was more of a debugging tool than something to be used in a serious manner
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13:31 <pippijn> boost::any uses it
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13:31 <wrtlprnft> true
13:31 <pippijn> std::tr1::enable_if<cond, type> is counter-intuitive to me
13:32 <pippijn> well
13:32 <pippijn> maybe not counter-intuitive
13:32 <pippijn> but I'd rather see cond and type switched
13:32 <pippijn> my meta::type_if<type, cond> is more readable in use
13:33 <pippijn> the type is important and cond may grow a lot
13:33 <pippijn> http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/txt/86eb2e945402ce2491104dfaf2c79aa3.txt
13:35 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8428 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/ePlayer.cpp): epsy46: SILENCE and VOICE use GetColoredName() instead of GetName() and don't spam.
13:41 <wrtlprnft> i just hope this won't break café again
13:41 <wrtlprnft> crazy template stuff ;-)
13:42 <pippijn> ;-)
13:42 <pippijn> I think I'll have a go at type-safety
13:46 <wrtlprnft> good luck
13:47 <pippijn> it's not nice
13:47 <pippijn> hm
13:47 <pippijn> a gcc bug prevents torres from getting the newest scalar
13:48 <pippijn> sadly
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13:49 <pippijn> so now it has no scalar at all
13:49 <pippijn> torres: { istringstream i ("hello"); istringstream is = i; }
13:49 <torres> ‘ios_base::ios_base(const ios_base&)’ is private
13:49 <pippijn> :-(
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14:34 <pippijn> wrtlprnft:   what():  Invalid conversion of std::ostream* to char*
14:35 <wrtlprnft> so you're typesafe now?
14:35 <pippijn> yes
14:36 <pippijn> demangling of type names for that error message
14:36 <pippijn>         throw std::runtime_error ("Invalid conversion of " + demangle (*ti) + " to " + demangle (typeid (ptr)));
14:36 <pippijn> works for gcc and visual studio
14:36 <pippijn> and possibly more
14:37 <wrtlprnft> who cares about the rest, really? ;-D
14:37 <pippijn> right
14:39 <pippijn>   s = &std::cout; std::cout << s << '\n';
14:39 <pippijn>   std::ostream *out = s; *out << "Hello world" << '\n';
14:39 <pippijn>   attempt (char *str = s; std::cout << str << '\n');
14:39 <wrtlprnft> argh
14:39 <wrtlprnft> pdflatex is generating unreadable pdf files for me
14:41 <pippijn> output:
14:41 <pippijn> 0x61b660 0x416c80
14:41 <pippijn> Hello world
14:41 <pippijn> Exception caught: Invalid conversion of std::ostream* to char*
14:43 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: one other cool thing is that my scalar is 100% well-defined c++ code
14:43 <pippijn> there is no undefined behavior in it
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16:11 <P4> i got a problem with +directx option when running armagetron, it gives me an error:
16:11 <P4> Error in int SDL_main(int, char**) in src\tron\gArmagetron.cpp:629:
16:11 <P4> 	Couldn't initialize SDL: DirectInputDevice::SetCooperativeLevel: Unknown DirectInput error: 0x80004001
16:12 <P4> i use -directx, i wonder if this is the reason why i got low fps. -directx means no DirectX usage, right?
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16:22 <luke-jr> P4: there is never DirectX usage afaik
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16:27 <Flex> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article3773520.ece
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16:27 <Flex> fucking hell.. now i know what that awful smell was
16:27 <Flex> and still is..
16:28 <K-Yo> :/
16:29  * K-Yo goes for a shower
16:29 <P4> oh
16:29 <P4> what is +-directx then?
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16:44 <Flex> http://overclockingpin.com/cooling.html
16:44 <Flex> http://overclockingpin.com/tek9%2030%20xfire%20frozen%20web.jpg
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19:13 <Lucifer> they need to make a network protocol that's message-based like udp, but reliable like tcp
19:33 <Lucifer> if the universe does end when you cast a struct sockaddr_in* to a  struct sockaddr*, I promise you it's pure coincidence and you shouldn't even worry about it.
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19:59 <joda_bot> P4: did someone explain about directx ?
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20:03 <Durka> madmax: ping
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20:15 <madmax> Durka: pong
20:15 <Durka> madmax: I was going to ask you if you have that macosx recorder program
20:15 <Durka> the one that sometimes comes in the dmg that u download arma with
20:16 <Durka> but i found it in svn, building it now
20:18 <madmax> it's in an alpha .dmg z-man published to beta.armagetronad.net too
20:18 <madmax> and somewhere in the forums in a post from nemo :P
20:19 <Durka> alright, madmax see if you can download it
20:19 <Durka> http://durkas.info/mac
20:20 <ct|kyle> who uses a mac :D
20:20 <madmax> don't think you built that thing universal
20:21 <Durka> me neither
20:21 <Durka> it just crashed on me
20:21 <Durka> x2
20:21 <madmax> well, if you need it grab the one from beta...
20:22 <Durka> lol failed again :P
20:27 <Durka> madmax: I've just searched nemo's posts back to dec. 06
20:27 <Durka> no luck
20:29 <madmax> er, did you read what i said? :P
20:29 <madmax> grab z-man's alpha from march
20:30 <Durka> meh
20:30  * Durka usually ignores max :D
20:32 <madmax> pfft.
20:33 <Durka> madmax: found it ;) http://durkas.info/mac/recorder/
20:35 <Durka> max you read my thread?
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20:36 <madmax> yes
20:41 <Durka> :P
20:47 <luke-jr> Lucifer: you could always treat TCP packets as messages
20:47 <luke-jr> Lucifer: the problem is when you have small MTUs
20:47 <Lucifer> that's what I did in eugenics, and just read the stream and parse out the messages
20:47 <luke-jr> but that would be a problem with UDP packets too
20:48 <Lucifer> I like the semantics in udp though, where you get the entire message and only that (for each recvfrom), or nothing
20:48 <luke-jr> that's the API, I think
20:48 <luke-jr> the protocol itself doesn't influence it
20:48 <luke-jr> other than TCP defining an actual order for packets
20:48 <Lucifer> well, tcp also requires the stream to be in order, and I'd like the out of order delivery capabilities of udp also
20:49 <Lucifer> so I could probably write an api that uses udp down below and preserves the message semantics
20:49 <Lucifer> what I'm working on right now doesn't need every packet to be guaranteed delivery, so I won't worry about it yet :)
20:50 <luke-jr> yeah
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20:51 <luke-jr> I think the logic behind having only those two was along the lines of "most people want reliability, in-order processing, and such or at least don't MIND these features, so TCP takes care of them; a minimal UDP can cover everything else" ☺
20:52 <Lucifer> hey, that's all fine too, but I hate parsing the stream :)
20:53 <Lucifer> if your'e just downloading a file, it's no big deal, but when it's a communication protocol, there's more stuff you want in there
20:54 <luke-jr> I'm sure there's higher-level libraries for stuff like that ☺
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21:01 <Durka> madmax: ping
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21:08 <Lucifer> my wife's a codemonkey :/
21:08 <luke-jr> Lucifer: have her join TWG too?
21:09 <Lucifer> no, heh
21:09 <Stewie-arma> woah, deja vu.
21:09 <Lucifer> she's in there with openoffice.org making lists by hand because "it wasn't doing it the way I wanted it to"
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21:09 <deja_vu> hey
21:09 <Stewie-arma> whoops, haha
21:10 <deja_vu> :P
21:10 <deja_vu> didn't think i was that impressive
21:10 <Lucifer> definition of a codemonkey: someone who doesn't let the machine/program/application do the heavy lifting because they don't understand how it does it
21:10 <Stewie-arma> I know, I was just to amazed.
21:11 <luke-jr> btw, if anyone cares, 0.2.8 branch is broken yet again
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21:11 <luke-jr> probably epsy
21:12 <luke-jr> /var/tmp/portage/games-action/armagetronad-live-0.2.8_alpha7561/work/armagetronad/src/engine/ePlayer.cpp:2934: error: 'se_hideAccessLevelOf' was not declared in this scope
21:14 <epsy> compiles fine here :/
21:14 <luke-jr> epsy: configured as a client, it does?
21:17 <epsy> ah i see the problem
21:18 <epsy> :P
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21:19 <Stewie-arma> hmmm, that's not very fun...
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21:20  * epsy agrees 100%
21:21 <epsy> luke-jr, committed the fix
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21:22 <Lucifer> egads, what's the biggest numberan unsigned short can have?
21:23 <wrtlprnft> #g 2^16 - 1
21:23 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (2^16) - 1 = 65,535
21:23 <Lucifer> er, I meant just one byte, heh
21:24 <Lucifer> #g 2^8 - 1
21:24 <wrtlprnft> char?
21:24 <armabot> Lucifer: (2^8) - 1 = 255
21:24 <Lucifer> yeah, that
21:24 <Lucifer> ok, maybe I meant a short.  255 is too small
21:24 <wrtlprnft> gee, everyone knows that number by heart :-)
21:24 <madmax> #later tell Durka pong
21:24 <armabot> madmax: The operation succeeded.
21:24 <Lucifer> man, I've been hacking python for a long time now, haven't done stuff like this in awhile...
21:25 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r8429 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/ (7 files in 2 dirs):
21:25 <armabot> armagetronad: cleanup
21:25 <armabot> armagetronad: add auth USE to -live 0.3
21:25 <armabot> armagetronad: add respawn USE to -live *
21:26 <luke-jr> epsy: where's your commit msg?
21:26 <epsy> on launchpad
21:26 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8430 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/ePlayer.cpp): epsy46: Fixing non-auth compilation.
21:26 <epsy> you could give a slap to bazaarmagetron
21:26 <epsy> hah
21:27 <wrtlprnft> #g 3*360 + 270
21:27 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (3 * 360) + 270 = 1,350
21:30 <wrtlprnft> #g 270+360-590
21:30 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 270 + 360 - 590 = 40
21:32 <wrtlprnft> #g 590+360+30
21:32 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 590 + 360 + 30 = 980
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21:48 <Lucifer> so I need a short short to get a 1 byte int?
21:49 <epsy> isn't a one byte int a boolean?
21:50 <Lucifer> no, that's one bit :)
21:50 <Lucifer> 8 bits to a byte!
21:50 <Lucifer> except that the bool datatype in c++ usually takes up a whole byte, hence the use of OR'ed flags
21:52 <Lucifer> er how big is a timestamp?  ;)
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21:57 <epsy> ops
21:58 <Lucifer> er, long int is 32 bits, right?
21:58 <Lucifer> or is it 64?  ;)
21:59 <madmax> doesn't that depend on language/arch?
21:59 <epsy> in french we use totally different words for bit and byte
22:00 <epsy> 8 bit = 1 'octet'
22:00 <Lucifer> ah, we use octet in network only, typically
22:00 <Lucifer> like, ethernet defines an ethernet packet in terms of octets
22:01 <Lucifer> but since 1 byte = 1 octet, it's not a big deal ;)
22:01 <epsy> yes, it's just confusing sometimes
22:01 <Lucifer> that's for hardware geeks, software geeks use byte
22:01 <epsy> (excuses excuses)
22:02 <Lucifer> ok, a long int is 4 bytes/octets, how about that?
22:02 <Lucifer> I need room for two of these
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22:05 <Lucifer> I guess I could have just done sizeof(struct timeval)
22:16 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer: short short doesn't exist.
22:18 <wrtlprnft> #g 590-270
22:18 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 590 - 270 = 320
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22:22 <epsy> and finally you can really hide your GID
22:23 <epsy> :P
22:23 <wrtlprnft> it's a serverside opt-in right now, though
22:23 <epsy> at least it can really work now
22:24 <wrtlprnft> epsy: if you are hiding yourself and execute /players, do you show the hidden tag there, too?
22:24 <wrtlprnft> would be useful to determine if you're really hidden
22:24 <epsy> yes
22:25 <wrtlprnft> neat :-)
22:25 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8431 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/ePlayer.cpp): epsy46: hide login messages, too
22:25 <epsy> se_Hide tells a is able to see b when a = b
22:25 <wrtlprnft> i know
22:25 <epsy> and well, in ePlayer we're testing if we can hide or not
22:26 <wrtlprnft> so you know if you would able to hide from yoursef if you weren't yourself
22:26 <epsy> err
22:26 <epsy> yes?
22:26 <wrtlprnft> ;-)
22:26  * epsy splits
22:34 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8432 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/ePlayer.cpp): epsy46: you could demote someone of the same level as yourself
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23:19 <epsy> #ping
23:19 <armabot> pong
23:32 <epsy> if i would add network version in /players, what would be the best? show it to everyone, to people who have ACCESS_LEVEL_IPS, or to have a specific ACCESS_LEVEL_ entry for it?
23:43 <epsy> brb
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00:03 <madmax> #sd nexus
00:03 <armabot> madmax: Nexus9 (NO RUBBER!): Players (10/16): alex, Blu, Colin ~$teel~, God, jet batman, Jichael Mackson, mot1, Mr Evil Guy, N9::Kef, NitroGrinder
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00:28 <Your_mom_arma> #ping
00:28 <armabot> pong
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00:38 <pippijn> wrtlprnft, zmanuel: http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/up/scalar.h.txt
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00:41 <madmax> #ss cafe
00:41 <armabot> madmax: Fortress Café (14/32): Team blue (10): Blackbird (4), CTºAdy-Lucifer (2), MaZuffeR (2), ~*SP*~ d3m0n (2), Player 1 (0), hoop (0); Team gold (5): AshitakA (2), madmax (2), ¦×¦ Hoax (1), Desolate (0), Radian (0), alias (0), ¦×¦rolf mao (0), ¦×¦xs20 (0)
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01:46 <noob13> #tea
01:46 <armabot> noob13: Fortress Café: Players (12/32): alias, CtxWoned, hoop (hoop@forums), I/O Bus, madmax, MaZuffeR, Monkey, Player 1, Player 2, Radian, ~*<y<lo*~
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02:25 <Valathar> anyone here bored enough to help me setup a linux dedicated armegetron server with no rubber <im a aregetron n00b thatcant find a howto for this particular subject>
02:25 <luke-jr> Valathar: http://lightfoot.dashjr.org :þ
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02:26 <Valathar> psh fsck that i own 5 dedicated servers why would i buy hosting
02:27 <luke-jr> if you have 5 dedis, you should be able to read the wiki ;)
02:27 <luke-jr> unless you have a more specific problem
02:28 <Valathar> i can setup and start the server fine i just wondering which config and which config params to set it as a no rubber server
02:28 <luke-jr> CYCLE_RUBBER 0
02:29 <Valathar> ty
02:33 <Lucifer> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Server_Administration_Guide
02:35 <Monkey_arma> lmao @ luke-jr  (pwned)
02:36 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: f u
02:36 <Monkey_arma> :)
02:36 <Monkey_arma> nice one Valathar
02:37 <Monkey_arma> the wiki is a bit messy but quite a lot of what u need is there
02:40 <Monkey_arma> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Console_Commands
02:40 <Monkey_arma> bookmark that page
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02:44 <Your_mom_arma> #ping
02:44 <armabot> pong
02:45 <Lucifer> #ding
02:45 <armabot> dong
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03:27 <Lucifer> #math calc 32-18
03:27 <armabot> Lucifer: 14
03:30 <Lucifer> #math calc 65535-32
03:30 <armabot> Lucifer: 65503
03:35 <Lucifer> #math calc 2**16
03:35 <armabot> Lucifer: 65536
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04:08 <Valathar> ty luke-jr and Monkey_arma servers up and working great but i know u hear this alot how do you add colour to the server name <doesit use basic bash colour definitions or what>
04:08 <luke-jr> 0xrrggbb
04:09 <Valathar> ah
04:18 <Lucifer> be aware that that's annoying :)
04:18 <luke-jr> Lucifer: in server names?
04:18 <Lucifer> luke-jr: yes
04:20 <Lucifer> hmmm, this is fun, writing in python and c++ at the same time :)
04:20  * Lucifer has to write a python client and c++ server for the same network protocol
04:35 <Monkey_arma> Lucifer, wrong...server names with colour are ok
04:35 <Monkey_arma> colours in chat are annoying however
04:36 <Monkey_arma> Valathar, glad  to help
04:49 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r8433 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/armagetronad/ (Manifest armagetronad-0.3.0-r1.ebuild): http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-5068221.html#5068221
04:50 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r8434 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/armagetronad/ (Manifest armagetronad-0.3.0-r1.ebuild): http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-5068221.html#5068221
04:50 <Monkey_arma> BUG
04:50 <Monkey_arma> ok i just left ctf, then about 10 seconds later looked on the master list and i am still in the server so i cant get in
04:50 <Monkey_arma> !
04:50 <Monkey_arma> but im not in there
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05:04 <DrJoeTron> so this is where the parties at
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05:06 <Lucifer> yes it is, joe
05:06 <Lucifer> hey, go join the TWG game
05:07 <DrJoeTron> TWG?
05:07 <Lucifer> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18384
05:07 <Lucifer> here's the first game we played:
05:07 <Lucifer> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18374
05:10 <DrJoeTron> i donno if i have that much dedication set for a forum game :T
05:11 <DrJoeTron> haha so many ReBoot referrences
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05:15 <Lucifer> Master Control Program is copyright 2007 by <the people who made it>
05:15 <Lucifer> looks like I need to do a little sed magic on that program
05:15 <GodTodd> reference
05:15 <GodTodd> > to "Bleak House." Dickens understood the soul-dampening impact of
05:15 <GodTodd> > pointless litigation that--in the end--only benefits the
05:16 <GodTodd> goddammit
05:16 <luke-jr> GodTodd: f u too
05:16 <Lucifer> yeah, things that benefit the goddammit are really annoying
05:17 <GodTodd> fuck you luke-jr if i want your input i'll say "hey moron"
05:17 <Lucifer> hey GodTodd (hi there!) , you outta get in on this game
05:17 <luke-jr> GodTodd: you know I only respond when you don't want me to
05:18 <GodTodd> Lucifer, what game?
05:18 <Lucifer> also, it would be really nice if you don't piss off luke to where I have to ignore him again, since he's in this game and I'll want to know every stupid word he utters here
05:18 <Lucifer> [22:08] <Lucifer> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18384
05:18 <Lucifer> [22:08] <Lucifer> here's the first game we played:
05:18 <Lucifer> [22:08] <Lucifer> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18374
05:18 <GodTodd> oh, that
05:18 <GodTodd> heh
05:18 <Lucifer> if joe doesn't play, I'll need someone to finger randomly
05:19  * GodTodd likes random fingering.
05:19 <DrJoeTron> you know im easy
05:19 <DrJoeTron> c'mon now
05:19 <Lucifer> can chars be dealt with like ints?
05:20 <DrJoeTron> c'mon now
05:20 <GodTodd> joe's here?!?!
05:20 <GodTodd> holy fuck
05:20 <DrJoeTron> ~sup duder~
05:20 <Lucifer> like, can i just say char something = 5; ?
05:20 <Lucifer> yeah, thought he got swallowed up in that earthquake, didn't you?
05:20 <Lucifer> that was just joe finally taking a dump
05:20 <GodTodd> thought, hoped, whichever you choose ;)
05:21 <Lucifer> man, that was a wussy earthquake
05:21 <Lucifer> it was only like a 5.something
05:21 <GodTodd> bah...we had like 6 tornados here
05:21 <Lucifer> didn't even crack the liberty bell
05:21 <Lucifer> hey, did anybody get hurt in it?
05:21 <Lucifer> the one I was in in seattle, nobody got hurt ;)
05:21 <GodTodd> not that i heard of
05:21 <GodTodd> lots of fucking trees and power poles knocked down tho
05:22 <Lucifer> well yeah, if you stick a piece of wood straight up in the ground and the ground starts shaking, the wood falls
05:22 <Lucifer> much like luke-jr's penis
05:22 <GodTodd> except trees and poles are erect :)
05:23 <DrJoeTron> fffffffff
05:23 <Lucifer> did you miss us joe?
05:23 <DrJoeTron> yeah, like a tumor
05:23 <Lucifer> isn't that a song?
05:23 <Lucifer> "like a tumor, touched for the very first time, like a tuuuuuu uuuuuu uuuuuuuuuumor"
05:23 <GodTodd> lanced for the very first time?
05:24 <Lucifer> lanced, that's it
05:24  * Lucifer wouldn't be surprised if weird al did a song like that
05:24 <DrJoeTron> like a surgeon?
05:25 <GodTodd> btw...if there's weird clicks and pastes from me...my 2 year old horked my trackpad here so i need to fix it :/
05:25 <Lucifer> heh
05:25 <Lucifer> that reminds me, I need one of those ps/2->usb adapters
05:25 <Lucifer> so I can hook up my footpedals and my trackmouse
05:26 <DrJoeTron> your arms fall off again?
05:26 <Lucifer> I'll see if freecycle's got one
05:26 <GodTodd> then my modem went out and we had to have it replaced
05:26 <Lucifer> DrJoeTron: yeah, just about, all that fencing you know....
05:26 <GodTodd> *and* he broke my cell phone
05:26 <Lucifer> why didn't you just go to the place your modem went and bring it back?
05:26 <GodTodd> not been a good w/e electronically
05:26 <GodTodd> heh
05:26 <Lucifer> haha
05:26 <GodTodd> reference
05:26 <GodTodd> > to "Bleak House." Dickens understood the soul-dampening impact of
05:26 <GodTodd> > pointless litigation that--in the end--only benefits the
05:26 <GodTodd> reference
05:26 <GodTodd> > to "Bleak House." Dickens understood the soul-dampening impact of
05:26 <GodTodd> > pointless litigation that--in the end--only benefits the
05:26 <GodTodd> reference
05:26 <Lucifer> just remember, the terrible twos are just a fear tactic, the threes really are terrible
05:26 <GodTodd> > to "Bleak House." Dickens understood the soul-dampening impact of
05:26 <GodTodd> > pointless litigation that--in the end--only benefits the
05:26 <GodTodd> reference
05:27 <GodTodd> > to "Bleak House." Dickens understood the soul-dampening impact of
05:27 <GodTodd> > pointless litigation that--in the end--only benefits the
05:27 <GodTodd> fuck fuck fuck
05:27 <Lucifer> he could focus a different window to do that
05:27 <GodTodd> so're the 9s :/
05:27 <Lucifer> heh, my 9yo is great :)
05:27 <Lucifer> she's cooking with me now
05:27 <DrJoeTron> MY CHILDREN
05:27 <GodTodd> so's mine...but then he bitches about it when it's time to eat
05:27 <GodTodd> heh
05:28 <Lucifer> heh, yeah.  She made a wonderful salad, then didn't eat any of it, poor thing
05:28 <Lucifer> she usually gets a half hour teacher-type lecture about cooking, though, so she's coming along nicely
05:28 <GodTodd> fuck...2 weeks til finals :/
05:28 <luke-jr> my 2 yo makes a good salad
05:28 <GodTodd> errible
05:28 <GodTodd> [22:27] <GodTodd> fuck fuck fuck
05:28 <GodTodd> [22:27] <Lucifer> he could focus a different window to do that
05:28 <DrJoeTron> any windows XP users awake y/n
05:28 <GodTodd> grrr
05:29 <Lucifer> n
05:29 <DrJoeTron> damn
05:29 <GodTodd> i use it on occasion
05:29 <DrJoeTron> i got a taskbar question : (
05:29 <GodTodd> errible
05:29 <GodTodd> [22:27] <GodTodd> fuck fuck fuck
05:29 <GodTodd> [22:27] <Lucifer> he could focus a different window to do that
05:29 <GodTodd> and the taskbar can't answer it?
05:29 <DrJoeTron> nope
05:29 <GodTodd> stupid taskbar
05:29 <Lucifer> yeah, isn't windows all about answering your questions experimentally becuase nobody else knows the answer?
05:29 <DrJoeTron> i want to set it up on the left, but have the start menu on the bottom rather than the top
05:30 <DrJoeTron> ~lol install lunex problem solved~ etc etc etc
05:30 <Lucifer> did you try right-clicking the start menu and choosing "properties"?
05:30 <GodTodd> sec...i'll see how mine's set up
05:30 <DrJoeTron> yeah, it only shoves the start menu to the top, not the bottom
05:30  * Lucifer doesn't remember if it's possible to move the start menu, but knows it's really easy to move the K menu
05:30 <DrJoeTron> i dont want it there :T
05:31 <Lucifer> did you get one of them widescreen monitors and figure out the taskbar is just wasted vertical space?
05:31  * Lucifer has had his panel on the right for a long time now
05:31 <DrJoeTron> y
05:31 <DrJoeTron> yeah i got one over the summer
05:31 <DrJoeTron> absolutely love it
05:31 <DrJoeTron> my video card on the other hand doesn't
05:31 <Lucifer> they're wonderful
05:32 <Lucifer> video cards suck
05:32 <DrJoeTron> this one would be fine if i wasn't running 1680x1050 but it does a decient job
05:32 <Lucifer> man, I got this datagram thing designed, now I don't know what kind of api I want to write to build the damn things
05:32 <Lucifer> how big is it?
05:32 <Lucifer> on mine I wouldn't be able to use it at that high of a resolution
05:33 <Lucifer> I run 1280x800 and that's perfect for me
05:33 <DrJoeTron> 22 inch
05:33 <Lucifer> ah
05:33 <Lucifer> hey, got an extra one of those?  ;)
05:33 <DrJoeTron> oh sure do
05:34 <Lucifer> send it to me with that computer
05:34 <DrJoeTron> ko
05:34 <DrJoeTron> i like my pc but i'd like to up the video card
05:34 <DrJoeTron> most stable computer i've ever had :)
05:34 <Lucifer> I need a new cpu fan :(
05:35 <Lucifer> failing that, I need to build a new desktop, but I'm so addicted to LCD screens and have such little desktop area, I can't just throw an old CRT on my desk
05:35 <DrJoeTron> lcd is fantastic
05:35 <Ttech> DrJoeTron, drugs?
05:35 <DrJoeTron> yeah i crack open monitors and suck the juices out
05:35 <DrJoeTron> ~3/20 bro~
05:36 <fonkay> wassup
05:36  * Ttech cries
05:36 <Ttech> LSD too?
05:37 <Lucifer> he likes to do lds
05:38 <luke-jr> ew, LDS
05:38 <Valathar> lmao
05:38 <Lucifer> oh come on, they hate women, how can *you* not like them?
05:38 <DrJoeTron> uh oh hide the fun luke-jr's here
05:38  * Lucifer has been following the FLDS story pretty closely
05:38 <Lucifer> thinking about luke-jr the whole time
05:41 <luke-jr> Lucifer: why?
05:41 <Lucifer> luke-jr: misogynists
05:41 <DrJoeTron> ^^^^^
05:41 <DrJoeTron> ------^that
05:42 <Lucifer> #dict misogynist
05:42 <armabot> Lucifer: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: wn: misogynist n : a misanthrope who dislikes women in particular [syn: {woman hater}]; gcide: Misogynist \Mi*sog"y*nist\ (m[i^]*s[o^]j"[i^]*n[i^]st), n. [Gr. misogy`nhs, misogy`naios; misei^n to hate + gynh` woman: cf. F. misogyne.] A woman hater. Contrast {misandrist}. --Fuller. [1913 Webster +PJC]; moby-thes: 21 Moby Thesaurus words for (1 more message)
05:42 <luke-jr> and…?
05:42 <luke-jr> about the only thing I have in common with them is that both of us were invaded by CPS with no legitimate basis
05:43 <DrJoeTron> ~gurls are gross~
05:45 <DrJoeTron> #m
05:45 <armabot> DrJoeTron: (later tell <nick> <text>) -- Tells <nick> <text> the next time <nick> is in seen. <nick> can contain wildcard characters, and the first matching nick will be given the note.
05:45 <fonkay> damn straight
05:45 <DrJoeTron> #m Your_mom_arma did you ever get orange box?
05:45 <armabot> DrJoeTron: The operation succeeded.
05:46 <Lucifer> they had a legitimate basis to go after FLDS, they had a call from a teenager saying she was being abused and raped and shit
05:46 <Lucifer> if that's not a legitimate basis, then what is?
05:46 <Lucifer> (assuming the call is for real, of course, and not faked in a way that CPS knew about it before they went in)
05:46 <fonkay> wtf is the flds?
05:46 <DrJoeTron> <fonkay> wtf is the flds?
05:46 <Lucifer> fundamentalist latter day saints
05:46 <DrJoeTron> oh
05:46 <DrJoeTron> haaaave fun with that conversation
05:47 <Lucifer> splinter group from the main lds church that still practices polygamy, lives in compounds with guards and shit
05:47 <luke-jr> Lucifer: actually, it was a prank call
05:47 <luke-jr> from Colorado
05:48 <Lucifer> that's not very far from missouri.....
05:48 <fonkay> oooooh, ok.
05:48 <Lucifer> how do you know it was a prank call?
05:49 <luke-jr> Lucifer: I don't; I'm not following the story closely
05:49 <luke-jr> that's just what I've heard
05:51 <Lucifer> ah, they're still trying to track it down
05:51 <Lucifer> at least, last I saw
05:51 <Lucifer> even if it was a prank call, as long as CPS didn't know about it, they had every right to go in
05:51 <Lucifer> what they found after they went in will have its day in court
05:53 <luke-jr> why would someone in FL have a CO callerid?
05:53 <luke-jr> s/FL/TX/
05:53 <Lucifer> cell phone
05:53 <Lucifer> the call was made on a borrowed cell phone
05:55 <luke-jr> shrug, if it wasn't prank then there's nothing in common
05:56 <fonkay> g'night
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06:03 <Valathar> ok last n00b question of the night how do i change the text inthe instant chat bindings?
06:08 <GodTodd> Lucifer, yeah...they arrested some chick for making the false call
06:08 <GodTodd> but cps didn't know it was fake til la
06:08 <GodTodd> errible
06:08 <GodTodd> [22:27] <GodTodd> fuck fuck fuck
06:08 <GodTodd> [22:27] <Lucifer> he could focus a different window to do that
06:08 <GodTodd> ter
06:08 <GodTodd> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
06:08 <GodTodd> errible
06:08 <GodTodd> [22:27] <GodTodd> fuck fuck fuck
06:08 <GodTodd> [22:27] <Lucifer> he could focus a different window to do that
06:10 <Lucifer> Valathar: check your player settings, there's a gui for that
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06:14 <GodTodd> errible
06:14 <GodTodd> [22:27] <GodTodd> fuck fuck fuck
06:14 <GodTodd> [22:27] <Lucifer> he could focus a different window to do that
06:14 <GodTodd> errible
06:14 <GodTodd> [22:27] <GodTodd> fuck fuck fuck
06:14 <GodTodd> [22:27] <Lucifer> he could focus a different window to do that
06:14 <GodTodd> errible
06:14 <GodTodd> [22:27] <GodTodd> fuck fuck fuck
06:14 <GodTodd> [22:27] <Lucifer> he could focus a different window to do that
06:14 <GodTodd> errible
06:14 <GodTodd> [22:27] <GodTodd> fuck fuck fuck
06:14 <GodTodd> [22:27] <Lucifer> he could focus a different window to do that
06:14 <GodTodd> errible
06:14 <GodTodd> [22:27] <GodTodd> fuck fuck fuck
06:14 <GodTodd> [22:27] <Lucifer> he could focus a different window to do that
06:14 <GodTodd> errible
06:14 <GodTodd> [22:27] <GodTodd> fuck fuck fuck
06:14 <GodTodd> [22:27] <Lucifer> he could focus a different window to do that
06:15 <GodTodd> errible
06:15 <GodTodd> [22:27] <GodTodd> fuck fuck fuck
06:15 <GodTodd> [22:27] <Lucifer> he could focus a different window to do that
06:15 <GodTodd> probably gonna have to break into this box to fix this :/
06:16 <GodTodd> errible
06:16 <GodTodd> [22:27] <GodTodd> fuck fuck fuck
06:16 <GodTodd> [22:27] <Lucifer> he could focus a different window to do that
06:21 <luke-jr> spammer
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06:26 <Valathar> ty Lucifer i found it
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06:30 <Stewie-arma> aww 3rd login in 3 hours I see Todd...
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06:31 <DrJoeTron> bbl i swear
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06:56 <GodTodd> okay...we'll give this a try...theoretically the touchpad is disabled now
06:58 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r8435 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/armagetronad/ (3 files in 2 dirs): patch for autoconf
07:05 <Lucifer> hmmmm
07:05 <Lucifer> got some arma code that doesn't seem to work right
07:05 <Lucifer> maybe I need to bind the socket again
07:06 <Lucifer> z-man-work: ping
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12:57 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8436 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/ePlayer.cpp): epsy46: show network version in /players, too
13:16 <armabot> lpbugs: [220195] port mismatch while authing, client sending a wrong port
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15:26 <epsy> Got one!
15:28 <joda_bot> epsy: ? congrats to whatever you got ;)
15:28 <epsy> got a weird mismatch with server record :)
15:29 <joda_bot> ah that's what happens on the server browser ?!
15:29 <epsy> an IP mismatch during auth
15:29 <joda_bot> oh ah, not the server browser ;
15:29 <epsy> :)
15:37 <epsy> wasn't the one i was looking for anyway meh
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17:13 <epsy> #echo epsy46
17:13 <armabot> epsy46
17:13 <epsy> #echo epsy
17:13 <armabot> epsy
17:13 <epsy> #echo epsy
17:13 <armabot> epsy
17:13 <epsy> #echo somethingepsy
17:13 <armabot> somethingepsy
17:13 <epsy> #echo something_epsy
17:13 <armabot> something_epsy
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17:14 <Raiden05> #echo hi raiden
17:14 <armabot> hi raiden
17:14 <Raiden05> =P
17:15 <epsy> Raiden05, i was wondering why commit messages didn't highlight me :)
17:15 <epsy> #hello madmax
17:15 <armabot> Hello epsy madmax :) Quote #45: "better an idiot that can admit it than a luke-jr....er, idiot that can't --GodTodd" (added by Lucifer_arma at 03:35 AM, March 12, 2007)
17:15 <epsy> errr
17:15 <Raiden05> :)
17:15 <madmax> #hello epsy
17:15 <armabot> Hello madmax epsy :) Quote #45: "better an idiot that can admit it than a luke-jr....er, idiot that can't --GodTodd" (added by Lucifer_arma at 03:35 AM, March 12, 2007)
17:16 <epsy> Raiden05, you see what's a commit message?
17:16 <Raiden05> ys
17:16 <Raiden05> ya
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17:17 <Raiden05> #hello all
17:17 <armabot> Hello Raiden05 all :) Quote #47: "ooo, a fez. I would look awesome in a fez -- Lucifer_arma (2007-04-12 19:38)" (added by MrBougo at 08:48 AM, April 15, 2007)
17:17 <Hoax> #morning
17:17 <armabot> Good Morning Hoax Random Fortune: Look at it this way: Your wife's spending $280 a month on meditation lessons to || forget $26,000 of college education. And you're still drinking ordinary scotch?
17:17 <Hoax> :/
17:17  * madmax notes #hello is supposed to be used without arg
17:17 <MrBougo> hehe
17:17 <Hoax> haha
17:17 <MrBougo> #hello
17:17 <armabot> Hello MrBougo :) Quote #57: "* epsy runs away from MrBougo | <epsy> i'm gonna take a shower brb | * MrBougo follows epsy *" (added by MrBougo at 01:38 PM, August 12, 2007)
17:17 <epsy> hi Hoax Random Fortune
17:18 <Hoax> lmao
17:18 <MrBougo> this quote is stupid
17:18 <epsy> damn teh blegian
17:18 <epsy> hahaha
17:18 <MrBougo> #quote random
17:18 <armabot> MrBougo: Quote #29: "It was like playing a game with a ping of 3000. -- John Carmack, Founder, Armadillo Aerospace" (added by GodTodd at 05:34 AM, October 29, 2006)
17:18 <MrBougo> eh.
17:18 <epsy> lol
17:18 <MrBougo> #quote random
17:18 <armabot> MrBougo: Quote #9: "he eats a bowl of wheat stocks and small pebbles -- Okgo" (added by n54 at 04:28 PM, March 29, 2006)
17:18 <MrBougo> #quote random
17:18 <armabot> MrBougo: Quote #30: "Fonkay: Are you afraid of sex? -armabot" (added by spidey at 01:02 AM, November 02, 2006)
17:18 <epsy> #q
17:18 <armabot> epsy: Quote #19: "If we were wolves and we snuck into China, they'd try to eat us, but we'd eat them. --Lucifer's Son" (added by Lucifer_arma at 11:36 PM, July 05, 2006)
17:19 <MrBougo> heh
17:19 <epsy> #help hello
17:19 <armabot> epsy: (hello <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo Hello $who $* :) [q]".
17:19 <epsy> madmax, [pause] NAAT
17:20 <epsy> MrBougo, did you ever seen borat in french?
17:20 <epsy> have*
17:22 <madmax> NAAT? is that 'kewl' for not?
17:22 <epsy> it is NAAAT
17:22 <epsy> :)
17:22 <madmax> whoa, As are getting added
17:22 <madmax> >_<
17:23 <Hoax> yagshemash!
17:23 <MrBougo> epsy: nap
17:23 <epsy> MrBougo, lucky you
17:25 <MrBougo> :p
17:29  * noob7 wonders why anybody would watch a film like borat in a synchronized version...
17:34 <wrtlprnft> yeah
17:34  * wrtlprnft wonders why everyone would want to see any english film in a synchronized version
17:35 <wrtlprnft> they all suck. Watch an english film in both english and your native language and you'll notice how much you miss if you watch the synchronized one
17:35 <noob7> a) people that suck at english b) ignoratns
17:35 <wrtlprnft> s/everyone/anyone/
17:35  * wrtlprnft sucks at english :-x
17:36 <noob7> hehe, why do you think theres only 3 or 4 cinemas in munich that show original movies anymore...
17:36 <wrtlprnft> :-(
17:36 <wrtlprnft> why do you think i tend to download movies instead of going to a cinema
17:36 <noob7> a couple of years ago most cinemas had screenings in original language at least a couple of times a week
17:36 <noob7> because you are a cheap skate :P
17:37 <wrtlprnft> ever watched one of those real cheap translations of a southpark episode?
17:37 <noob7> <- downloads because our generation is brainfucked into this "news now!" mentality
17:37 <noob7> no, never watched the german version really
17:37 <wrtlprnft> or any english comedy show that isn't really funny even in english
17:38 <wrtlprnft> sharing is a good thing, right? so filesharing must be, too!
17:38 <noob7> I agree, but I'd pay 10 euros or so a month for good TV / movies, hell I pay money to rent movies too
17:39 <noob7> even 20 euros would be ok
17:39  * wrtlprnft pays for movies he really likes
17:39 <noob7> I pay money for movies that are birthday presents
17:40 <noob7> when I rent movies I am not able to download as well, and the occasional cinema visit
17:40 <noob7> besides that, nah
17:40  * wrtlprnft went to the cinema about once a week while he was in canada
17:40 <noob7> because cinema is like 4 bucks there?
17:40 <wrtlprnft> 8
17:40 <noob7> :o
17:40  * Lucifer doesnt' pay for movies bcause some of that money goes to the MPAA's campaign to rule the world
17:40 <noob7> :P
17:41 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer: then you shouldn't pay taxes
17:41 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer: a lot of it goes to bush's plan to rule the world
17:41 <Lucifer> wrtlprnft: hah, I won't go to jail for not buying movies....
17:41 <fonkay> anyone know when the 2nd round of twg is starting?
17:41 <Lucifer> besides, I get money back on my taxes
17:42 <Lucifer> meaning I don't pay taxes, someone else's taxes are given to me
17:42 <Lucifer> income/federal taxes, taht is, but that's the only money that goes towards bush
17:43 <noob7> fonkey I got a message from armabot earlier
17:43 <noob7> stating signups are open
17:44 <wrtlprnft> i think the luke-jr+sockpuppet buisness needs to be sorted out first
17:44 <fonkay> what's to sort out?
17:45 <wrtlprnft> if (s)he can play or not
17:45 <wrtlprnft> or maybe z-man-work is just waiting for more signups
17:45 <wrtlprnft> or just busy
17:45 <wrtlprnft> or forgot about the whole thing (unlikely)
17:45 <z-man-work> Waiting for signups.
17:45 <fonkay> hmmm. didn't know zman was considering it
17:45 <z-man-work> Especially noob7.
17:45 <noob7> thing is, I'd have to register an account on the forums
17:45 <Lucifer> yeah, don't want to start a new game and have someone go and say "noob7 and I would like to play"
17:45 <noob7> or everybody would know who I am :o
17:46 <z-man-work> Well, then do so, how else do you think this is going to work?>
17:46 <noob7> magic
17:46 <Lucifer> you know?
17:46 <wrtlprnft> noob7 could email his messages to z-man-work and have him relay them to the forums
17:46 <wrtlprnft> in theory.
17:46 <noob7> or setup armabot to do the work
17:47 <fonkay> wrtl want more work for z
17:47 <wrtlprnft> setup armabot to post messages to the forums?
17:47 <Lucifer> wait, why can't noob7 register on the forums again?
17:47 <z-man-work> Great! Spam!
17:47 <fonkay> he can
17:47 <fonkay> he seems to be refusing
17:47  * wrtlprnft is not being serious right now
17:47 <noob7> you are not supposed to have multiple accounts right?
17:47 <wrtlprnft> noob7@forums!
17:47 <noob7> :o
17:47 <z-man-work> You can have as many as you have email addresses :)
17:47 <fonkay> wait, so you already have an account?
17:48 <Lucifer> lemme guess, it's named "Communist" and you forgot your password?
17:48 <noob7> nah I have one... :) I know the pass
17:48 <noob7> but I didnt know I had registered noob7@forums
17:48 <z-man-work> Then use that?
17:48 <noob7> nah then everybody knows who I am
17:48 <z-man-work> And?
17:48 <noob7> that makes noob7 sad
17:48  * wrtlprnft wonders if Redneck@forums is a sockpuppet of Lucifer (just kidding)
17:48 <z-man-work> Everybody knows who everybody else is.
17:48 <Lucifer> apparently this isn't Cheers
17:49 <fonkay> hehe
17:49 <noob7> damn. wrong channel then
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17:49 <z-man-work> Actually, I don't know who you are, noob7, you're just a random name on IRC :)
17:49 <Lucifer> "Sometimes you want to go where everybody knows your nick"
17:49 <Lucifer> "And they'll never know you're sick"
17:50 <fonkay> how many players do we have now?
17:51 <z-man-work> 9 again
17:51 <z-man-work> not counting SockPuppet-Jr
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17:52 <Lucifer> I tried to get joe to sign up, heh
17:52 <fonkay> joe's given up i'm thinking
17:52 <fonkay> which is kinda sad... since he runs the only servers i ever played on.
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17:53 <noob7> noob7@forums was not registered yet wrtlprnft...
17:54 <fonkay> wait, so you registered twice in like 6 days?
17:55 <noob7> hmmm no?
17:55 <noob7> why would I do that?
17:55 <fonkay> you tell me
17:55 <noob7> I registered twice in like 2.5 years
17:55 <epsy> you are spoiling my plans, noob7..
17:55 <noob7> :o
17:56 <fonkay> ko, later.
17:56 <z-man-work> epsy: don't you want to sign up, too? You'll get to lynch or eat luke-jr!
17:56 <fonkay> z-man-work: can we know a few days in advance before the 1st cycle starts plz?
17:57 <z-man-work> sure.
17:57  * noob7 signed uo
17:57 <fonkay> k, good. wont have time over the next week to check the forums everyday.
17:57 <fonkay> bye
17:58 <z-man-work> noob7: you forgot the [b]bold[/b], your signup is INVALID
17:58 <Raiden05> lol
17:58 <wrtlprnft> so strict.
17:58 <noob7> alright, ignore my post then, have fun with TWG2
17:59 <epsy> z-man-work, i'm quite allergic to forum games since i read the tremulous forums
17:59 <z-man-work> Knowing how to write something in bold is a requirement :) you won't be able to vote without it.
17:59 <z-man-work> epsy: why?
17:59 <epsy> z-man-work, you don't read the, do you?
17:59 <noob7> ok, edited in some boldness just for you :)
17:59 <epsy> them-
17:59 <luke-jr> I love these 15 minute rechargable batteries
17:59 <epsy> *
18:00 <luke-jr> they really take 30 minutes because for 15 minutes after charging they're too fscking hot to touch
18:00 <z-man-work> epsy: no, I don't, are they so bad?
18:01 <Lucifer> well, it is the tremulous forums
18:01 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: throw the charger into some icewater
18:01 <Lucifer> surprised wpsy still has a brain after reading those
18:01 <epsy> z-man-work, quite bad, especially when it comes to forums games
18:01 <Lucifer> s/wpsy/epsy
18:01 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: and short it?
18:01 <z-man-work> Lucifer: he ever had one? ;)_
18:01 <noob7> duh, take the plug out first  :P
18:01 <wrtlprnft> distilled ice water.
18:01 <z-man-work> Liquid nitrogen.
18:02 <Lucifer> dry ice!
18:02 <wrtlprnft> if you have some handy
18:02 <z-man-work> Any time.
18:02 <wrtlprnft> but liquid nitrogen is fun :-)
18:02 <Lucifer> it's actually mostly perfect for this, since it sublimates, so nothing gets wet
18:02  * epsy /admin slap z-man-work 100
18:02 <Lucifer> or he could develop some patience and get one of the longer chargers and some extra batteries
18:02 <z-man-work> What does the parameter do?
18:03 <epsy> you loose 100 points instead of one
18:03 <noob7> its the speed you get slapped with
18:03 <epsy> :)
18:03 <z-man-work> Argh
18:03 <Lucifer> probably specifies the number of trouts to slap you with
18:03 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer: niquid nitrogen doesn't conduct
18:03 <Lucifer> wrtlprnft: but it's a little harder to come by than dry ice
18:03 <wrtlprnft> and it doesn't stay liquid for long when you take the charger out of it
18:04 <Lucifer> don't forget luke-jr lives out in the middle of nowhere
18:04 <Lucifer> where they still use wooden forks and spoons
18:05 <luke-jr> whatever Lucifer
18:05 <luke-jr> 45 on the largest US cities list
18:05 <z-man-work> Counted from the bottom or the top?
18:05  * noob7 didnt know trailer parks could get that big
18:06 <luke-jr> z-man-work: haha
18:06 <Lucifer> Tulsa Oklahoma?
18:07 <Lucifer> whoah, seattle's smaller than austin?
18:08 <luke-jr> lol
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18:24 <pavelo> epsy: do you know x team sumo authentication doesn't work ?
18:24 <epsy> really?
18:24 <pavelo> epsy: it says something about address mismatch and suspected pharming
18:24 <epsy> woot
18:24  * epsy wished he had a recording :(
18:37 <wrtlprnft> pavelo: but it does on café?
18:37 <epsy> it does on all the install
18:37 <epsy> i'd think..
18:37 <epsy> oh
18:38 <epsy> let me guess
18:38 <epsy> the server knows it's ip from the masters?
18:38 <pavelo> wrtlprnft: idk, should i try ?
18:40 <wrtlprnft> pavelo: please do
18:40 <wrtlprnft> last time i tried it worked
18:40 <epsy> wrtlprnft, i ran a test server in the morning
18:41 <epsy> wrtlprnft, wanted it not to contact masters, and i needed a full config fastly
18:41 <epsy> so i turned TALK_TO_MASTER off then forgot it :P
18:41 <pavelo> café works fine
18:41 <wrtlprnft> ok, then it's an x server thing
18:42  * epsy will have to run his test again then
18:43 <pavelo> wrtlprnft: i just realized your message is a bit odd. word order is that of a statement but you end it with a ?. what did you mean ?
18:44 <wrtlprnft> ?
18:44 <epsy> pavelo, see what i wrote
18:44 <wrtlprnft> what are you referring to?
18:44 <pavelo>  wrtlprnft: pavelo: but it does on café?
18:44 <pavelo> "it does" vs "?"
18:44 <Flex> BOOB HEADSHOT
18:44 <wrtlprnft> yeah, that meant that i asked you to try it out
18:44 <epsy> no, at least it shouldn't
18:44 <wrtlprnft> *but it does work on café, right?
18:44 <pavelo> well, then i understood you correctly :)
18:44 <Flex> oops, i meant BOOM
18:45 <epsy> Flex, boob or head..decide yourself
18:45 <Flex> dunno where boob came from, but i was thinking "boom headshot"
18:45 <epsy> ok..
18:46 <epsy> i hope at least it was woman boob
18:46 <Flex> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olm7xC-gBMY
18:46 <epsy> ..right..flex?
18:46 <Flex> dude omg, i'm not alone!
18:50 <pavelo> epsy: the TALK_TO_MASTER thing, yes i saw it.... does that mean i don't have to change my password ? :)
18:51 <epsy> what?
18:52 <pavelo> the message mentioned pharming... i suppose that's password farming
18:52 <epsy> it says that it supposes it might be pharming
18:52 <epsy> not that you got pharmed
18:52 <epsy> :)
18:52 <pavelo> right
18:52 <epsy> why would we do that
18:52 <noob7> so you are pharming epsy? :)
18:53 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/up/scalar.h.txt
18:53 <noob7> to get into the email accounts of people that use the same password for both forum account and email
18:53 <noob7> then go from there
18:54 <noob7> you might have to let paypal etc send you new passwords... its easy from there on
18:54 <pavelo> though if i understood the protocol correctly, the password should never reach the server, right ?
18:55 <epsy> currently, 100% of pharming suspicions were false positive :p
18:55 <noob7> unless he is pharming... using a modified server
18:55 <epsy> pavelo, it goes trought the server
18:55 <epsy> pavelo, but at that point it is quite screwed up
18:56 <pavelo> but in a hashed form. with a random salt. or not ?
18:56 <noob7> unless he is using a modified server pavelo :P
18:56 <pavelo> even if he's using a mod. server
18:56 <epsy> it's the client which does the screwing up
18:57 <epsy> you really thing the client would give a password verbatim to the server?
18:57 <pavelo> i hope not
18:58 <epsy> it doesnt, lol
18:58 <pavelo> but if it doesnt, how can one pharm ?
18:58 <pavelo> the best thing he can do is a man-in-the-middle
18:59 <epsy> the wiki explains it briefly and clearly enougy, let me give you a link
18:59 <epsy> yes, exactly
18:59 <wrtlprnft> pavelo: i'm not reading that huge header file ;-)
18:59 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: latest version, probably last
18:59  * pavelo goes to look up the definition of pharming
19:00 <epsy> pavelo, http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Hash_Based_Authentication#Attack_Vectors
19:01 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: do you know dbus?
19:02 <wrtlprnft> i know what it is
19:02 <wrtlprnft> that's about it
19:02 <pippijn> hm
19:02 <pippijn> okay
19:02 <pippijn> I was going to ask you what you thought of it
19:02 <pippijn> as a message passing system
19:03 <wrtlprnft> its name is easier to remember than dcop.
19:03 <wrtlprnft> that enough of an opinion?
19:04 <epsy> heh
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19:48 <noob7> POOOOOORK its the meat of kings! it's made from pig try it with onion rings!
19:48 <madmax> oO
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21:12 <Bougo> #g 1+1
21:12 <armabot> Bougo: 1 + 1 = 2
21:12 <Bougo> #g number of horns on a unicorn
21:12 <armabot> Bougo: number of horns on a unicorn = 1
21:12 <Bougo> I win!
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21:13 <madmax> hah
21:13 <MrBougo> try it on google :p
21:13 <MrBougo> it's a nicie easter egg
21:15 <epsy> #g the answer to the question of life and universe
21:15 <armabot> epsy: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
21:15 <epsy> wrtl knows it better
21:15 <epsy> :P
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21:25 <Valathar> #g number of horns on a unicorn + 2 * 3 / 2 - 3
21:25 <armabot> Valathar: number of horns on a unicorn + ((2 * 3) / 2) - 3 = 1
21:25 <wrtlprnft> epsy: 
21:26 <epsy> wrtlprnft:
21:26 <wrtlprnft> #g the answer to life the universe and everything
21:26 <armabot> wrtlprnft: the answer to life the universe and everything = 42
21:26 <epsy> right :P
21:26  * wrtlprnft wonders how many more of those there are
21:26 <epsy> int *(0) = 42 :O
21:28 <wrtlprnft> i like doing that?
21:28 <wrtlprnft> s/\?/
21:28 <epsy> how often?
21:29 <wrtlprnft> why?
21:29 <wrtlprnft> did you find that somewhere in my code?
21:29 <MrBougo> #g What's the answer to life, the universe and everything multiplied by the speed of light divided by three teaspoons?
21:30 <armabot> MrBougo: (the answer to life, the universe and everything multiplied by the speed of light) divided by (three US teaspoons) = 8.51523874 * 10^(14) m^(-2) s^(-1)
21:30 <epsy> not sure if the syntaxes are same
21:30 <epsy> not sure if mine even compiles :P
21:30 <wrtlprnft> torres: {int *(0) = 42;}
21:30 <torres> expected unqualified-id before numeric constant
21:30 <wrtlprnft> yeah, thought so
21:30 <wrtlprnft> i usually do
21:30 <wrtlprnft> torres: {(char*)0 = 42;}
21:30 <torres> lvalue required as left operand of assignment
21:30 <epsy> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/cube.patch
21:30 <wrtlprnft> torres: {*(char*)(0) = 42;}
21:30 <torres> Subprocess /t died on signal 11 (Segmentation fault)
21:31 <wrtlprnft> that one :-)
21:31 <wrtlprnft> oooh
21:31 <wrtlprnft> heh
21:31 <epsy> *(int*)0 = 42;
21:31 <wrtlprnft> char, int, std::string, all the same for that matter
21:31 <MrBougo> wrtlprnft:
21:31 <MrBougo> #g speed of a Delorean going back in time
21:31 <armabot> MrBougo: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
21:31 <MrBougo> eh
21:31 <wrtlprnft> #g number of microsoft employees it takes to screw in a light bulb
21:31 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
21:31 <wrtlprnft> aww!
21:32 <MrBougo> I believe that delorean one was a hoax
21:32 <MrBougo> ... fooled
21:32 <wrtlprnft> no
21:32 <wrtlprnft> click the link
21:32 <wrtlprnft> you're not supposed to enter the text
21:32 <MrBougo> ????
21:32 <wrtlprnft> 1.21 gigawatts * 88mph
21:33 <MrBougo> screw that
21:33 <MrBougo> :p
21:33 <Valathar> #g once in a blue moon
21:33 <armabot> Valathar: once in a blue moon = 1.16699016 * 10^(-8) hertz
21:33 <wrtlprnft> lol!
21:34 <wrtlprnft> somewhat special, but not too eastereggy
21:34 <wrtlprnft> #g 1 / once in a blue moon
21:34 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 1 / once in a blue moon = 2.71542689 years
21:35 <wrtlprnft> the next one is 2010 :-(
21:35 <Monkey_arma> #g the brain power of the person that changed the glances from .2 to those in .3
21:36 <armabot> Monkey_arma: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
21:36 <wrtlprnft> Monkey_arma: the brain power of the person that changed the glances from .2 to those in .3 = infinity
21:36 <wrtlprnft> #g (November 21, 2010) - (February 21, 2008)
21:36 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
21:36 <MrBougo> #g 2 ( ngogn / farshimmelt potrzebie ) * 3 furshlugginer blintz
21:36 <wrtlprnft> hmm, that would have been too great
21:36 <armabot> MrBougo: 2 * (ngogn / farshimmelt potrzebie) * (3 furshlugginer blintz) = 1,119,540.13 m^(2) kg
21:36 <MrBougo> http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2008-01-13-n28.html
21:37 <Monkey_arma> #g on a scale of 1 to 10 how annoying is durka
21:37 <armabot> Monkey_arma: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
21:38 <wrtlprnft> that one's interesting
21:38 <MrBougo> :p
21:38 <wrtlprnft> #g 1 blintz in kg
21:38 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 1 blintz = 0.0364253863 kilograms
21:39 <MrBougo> #g 1 hoo * 1 hah
21:39 <armabot> MrBougo: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
21:39 <wrtlprnft> sounds more useful to me than the imperial system
21:39 <MrBougo> mh :/
21:39 <MrBougo> #g 1 whatmeworry
21:39 <armabot> MrBougo: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
21:39 <MrBougo> it isnt complete, it seems
21:39 <MrBougo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potrzebie#Unit_System
21:39 <wrtlprnft> #g 1 Potrzebie whatmeworry * 1
21:39 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
21:40 <Valathar> http://www.google.com/intl/xx-hacker/
21:40 <epsy> lol
21:40 <wrtlprnft> yeah, that's nothing new
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21:41 <Valathar> http://www.google.com/googlegulp/index.html
21:41 <MrBougo> hehe
21:42 <Valathar> http://www.google.com/romance/index.html
21:42 <Valathar> http://www.googoth.com/
21:42 <Valathar> http://www.googleloco.com/
21:42 <Valathar> http://www.google.com/mentalplex/
21:45 <Valathar> #g 0x7d3 in roman numerals
21:45 <armabot> Valathar: 0x7d3 = MMIII
21:46 <Valathar> #g 0b1100101*0b1001
21:46 <armabot> Valathar: 0b1100101 * 0b1001 = 0b1110001101
21:46 <Valathar> heh
21:46 <wrtlprnft> that's old as well
21:46 <wrtlprnft> 0b111.1 * 2
21:46 <wrtlprnft> #g 0b111.1 * 2
21:46 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
21:46 <wrtlprnft> why doesn't anything support binary/hex numbers with decimals?
21:48 <Valathar> #g furlongs per fortnight
21:48 <armabot> Valathar: 1 furlongs per fortnight = 0.000166309524 m / s
21:49 <Valathar> #g e
21:50 <armabot> Valathar: e = 2.71828183
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21:50 <Valathar> #g Avogadros number
21:50 <armabot> Valathar: Avogadro's number = 6.0221415 * 10^(23)
21:50 <wrtlprnft> it has to know that one
21:51 <wrtlprnft> #g 42u in kg
21:51 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 42 atomic mass units = 6.97426323 * 10^(-26) kilograms
21:51 <Valathar> lol
21:51 <Valathar> thats all i know of off the top of my head
21:51 <wrtlprnft> #g plank length * 1
21:51 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
21:51 <wrtlprnft> #g planck length * 1
21:51 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
21:52 <MrBougo> #g planck unit
21:52 <armabot> MrBougo: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
21:52 <MrBougo> bah
21:52 <wrtlprnft> #g the plank length * 1
21:52 <MrBougo> #g planck time
21:52 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
21:52 <armabot> MrBougo: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
21:52 <wrtlprnft> weak!
21:52 <MrBougo> #g plank time
21:52 <MrBougo> no
21:52 <armabot> MrBougo: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
21:52 <MrBougo> that's ck
21:52 <MrBougo> #g planck constant
21:52 <armabot> MrBougo: Planck's constant = 6.626068 * 10^(-34) m^(2) kg / s
21:52 <MrBougo> well
21:53 <MrBougo> not-so-related :p
21:53 <MrBougo> I mean, not directly
21:53 <MrBougo> ok I'm out
21:53 <MrBougo> night
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22:05 <Flex> BOOM HEADSHOT!!!!!!!!111!!!1
22:05 <epsy> that vid sucks, flex
22:05 <epsy> phail
22:05 <Flex> no u suck
22:10 <Hoax> no no no, let epsy say it again...
22:10 <epsy> You Phialed!
22:12 <Hoax> xD
22:19 -!- Lucifer_pen [n=Miranda@m20677151229.austincc.edu] has joined #armagetron
22:20 <Lucifer_pen> whoah, I just realized I don't need to have a virtual machine on this computer to do development
22:20 <Lucifer_pen> just subversion
22:21  * Lucifer_pen wishes there was a portableapps release of subversion
22:21  * epsy blames CTCP VERSION answers that don't include OS
22:22 -!- Hoax is now known as Hoax_paper
22:22  * Hoax_paper for your writing pleasure
22:24 <Lucifer_pen> anybody know what to use in windows when you don't have cat?
22:24 <Monkey_arma> edit
22:24 <Flex> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Utt7DCzEDg&feature=related
22:24 <Monkey_arma> type maybe
22:24 <Lucifer_pen> edit works, thanks
22:25 -!- Hoax_paper is now known as Hoax
22:25 <Lucifer_pen> now I need a portable python distribution that has PyQt4 and PyQwt5 in it
22:28 <Lucifer_pen> http://www.portablepython.com/site/download/
22:29 <Monkey_arma> what is pen?
22:33 <Lucifer_pen> pen drive
22:34 <Lucifer_pen> it means I'm using a computer that's mine, with software installed on my pendrive
22:34 <Lucifer_pen> er, a computer that's *not* mine
22:34 <Lucifer_pen> if you find yourself needing to use a computer, and only windows computers are around, portableapps.com has some great stuff
22:34 <noob7> is there a list of stuff you use lucifer?
22:34 <Lucifer_pen> so, I'm about to put python and subversion on there
22:34 <Lucifer_pen> http://www.portableapps.com/  is the place
22:34 <noob7> oh ok, I thought you booted from the flash drive as well
22:35 <noob7> yeah I know about those
22:35 <Lucifer_pen> no, not guaranteed to be able to boot from usb on public computers :/
22:35 <noob7> true
22:35 <Lucifer_pen> so I've got a command prompt, and might be able to set the PATH variable with a little research into the thing
22:35 <Lucifer_pen> subversion installs from a zip file, no registry settings or anything, and there's a portable python distribution.  Hopefully I'll be able to install pyqt and pyqwt into it
22:36 <Monkey_arma> well many aps have a windows version...even bash i think
22:36 <Lucifer_pen> yes, I haven't checked to see how big mingw is yet
22:36 <Lucifer_pen> it might be too big, or I should buy a bigger pen drive :)
22:37 <Lucifer_pen> not sure I want to use subversion on a flash drive, but I can use it on the hard drive, commit my changes, then delete it
22:48 <ct|kyle> what is a Lucifer_pen?
22:50 <noob7> [22:34] <Monkey_arma> what is pen?
22:50 <noob7> [22:38] <Lucifer_pen> pen drive
22:50 <noob7> but maybe its the pen satan uses...
22:50 <ct|kyle> that is what i thought
22:51 <ct|kyle> pen drive
22:51 <noob7> ...when asking you to sign over your soul
22:51 <ct|kyle> i gotta get me an OS on my jump dive
22:52 <noob7> I have never tried it, but theres "damn small linux"...
22:52 <Lucifer_pen> dsl is neat
22:53 <Lucifer_pen> anybody know how to get the current drive in a windows batch file?
22:55 <ct|kyle> Lucifer_pen: nope i just used autoit to do stuff like that
22:56 <Monkey_arma> pwd might include the drive..im not sure
22:57 <Monkey_arma> try it
22:57 <Lucifer_pen> nope, no luck
22:57 <luke-jr> epsy: your VERSION doesn't include OS
22:58 <epsy> try again
22:58 <luke-jr> nope
22:58 <epsy> ^^
23:01 <Lucifer_pen> now I have to consider whether or not it's worth having OO.o on this thing
23:02 <ct|kyle> ya 00.o is hugnomase
23:04 <Lucifer_pen> grrrr
23:04 <Lucifer_pen> there's no spreadsheet program I can use otherwise
23:04 <Lucifer_pen> I can install abiword instead and have a much smaller word processor, but then no spreadsheet
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23:05 <ct|kyle> so what distro are you running on it?
23:05 <luke-jr> Lucifer_pen: KSpread
23:06 <Lucifer_pen> I'm not running a distro
23:06 <Lucifer_pen> it's http://www.portableapps.com/
23:06 <Lucifer_pen> open source windows applications
23:07 <Lucifer_pen> configured to run portably, so I can plug this in anywhere and my settings are saved and nothing is left on the machine I plug it into, unless I want to leave something there
23:08 <Lucifer_pen> of course, it does require the machine I plug into be a windows computer
23:08 <Lucifer_pen> we should make an arma distribution for this :)
23:10 <ct|kyle> heh
23:14 <Lucifer_pen> ok, I'm putting python on there
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23:17 <pippijn> how far is 2.8's death away?
23:20 <ct|kyle> years
23:20 <wrtlprnft> technically it's supposed to be soon
23:22 <Lucifer_pen> awesome, I've got a command prompt in windows with python and subversion
23:22 <pippijn> I am not going to work on 2.8
23:22 <Lucifer_pen> I can take it anywhere I want, and I'm ecstatic about that :)
23:23 <Lucifer_pen> so, I've got python and a source code editor, what more do I need?
23:23 <Lucifer_pen> I guess that means I can remove OO.o and go with abiword then
23:23 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: who's the project coordinator?
23:23 <Lucifer_pen> who needs a spreadsheet when you've got python?  ;)
23:23 <Lucifer_pen> pippijn: none, we're uncoordinated
23:24 <pippijn> who says what's going to happen next?
23:24 <pippijn> who says when a branch is dead?
23:24 <Lucifer_pen> generally the person that does it
23:24 <Lucifer_pen> ah, that'll be whoever maintains the branch
23:24 <pippijn> who maintains 2.8?
23:24 <Lucifer_pen> the de facto 0.2.8 branch manager is z-man
23:24 <pippijn> I see
23:24 <Lucifer_pen> but we're all in agreement that it must die
23:24 <Lucifer_pen> why?
23:24 <Lucifer_pen> note: there is no de jure branch manager of anything
23:25 <pippijn> I want to work on armagetron to make the code of better quality
23:25 <Lucifer_pen> that's what happens when you let anarchists run the asylum
23:25 <pippijn> instead of adding features
23:25 <Lucifer_pen> then you want to work in the trunk anyway :)
23:25 <pippijn> the thing is
23:25 <pippijn> if I start doing that, backports will become hard to impossible
23:25 <Lucifer_pen> ummmm, yeah
23:26 <Lucifer_pen> but if you do them in 0.2.8, they can't be replicated to the trunk anyway
23:26 <pippijn> hence, I can't do anything
23:26 <Lucifer_pen> there's redesign work going on in the trunk, and one of the reasons the 0.2.8 branch has to die is because it's blocking the trunk
23:26 <Lucifer_pen> who says you have to backport anything?  Work in the 0.3 series instead....
23:27 <Lucifer_pen> I don't see the problem....  if you want people to use the code you've  written, push for release when it's in the trunk.  We release directly off the trunk in the development series (typically)
23:27 <pippijn> forward ports would be impossible, as well :-)
23:28 <pippijn> honestly, I don't care for people using my code
23:28 <Lucifer_pen> er, one of the reasons for branching from the trunk is so you don't have to worry so much about backwards/forwards compatibility
23:28 <Lucifer_pen> comes down to one simple thing: if you want to contribute code to help the project in the future, the trunk is the place it goes.  If you want to contribute code to help on a current stable release, then that branch is the place to do it
23:28 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_pen: pippijn is talking about quite global changes
23:29 <Lucifer_pen> wrtlprnft: which would belong in the trunk anyway, right?  ;)
23:29 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_pen: that would cause tons of merge conflicts when trying to merge even the simplest changes from 0.2.8 to the trunk
23:29 <Lucifer_pen> don't we want to kill the 0.2.8 branch so we can stop worrying about situations like that that we already have?
23:29 <pippijn> Lucifer_pen: for one: tArray would be gone
23:30 <pippijn> and just about everything depends on tArray and its behaviour
23:30 <pippijn> (which is broken)
23:30 <Lucifer_pen> tArray is already deprecated, slated to be replaced with an std class, isn't it?
23:30 <pippijn> things should be std::'d as much as possible
23:30 <Lucifer_pen> just hasn't been yet....
23:31 <pippijn> stdlib containers are faster than the ones in t*
23:31 <Lucifer_pen> um, stop typing for a minute and read what I just said
23:31 <pippijn> yes
23:31 <pippijn> tArray is deprecated
23:31 <pippijn> but used all over the place
23:31 <pippijn> it's a nontrivial task to replace it with std::vector
23:31 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_pen: it's too big a change for 0.2.8, and if we do it in the trunk right now it will be impossible to merge bugfixes from 0.2.8 (which we'll want to do as long as it's alive)
23:31 <Lucifer_pen> yes it is, which is why we can't just switch it out
23:31 <pippijn> because std::vector behaves correctly
23:31 <Lucifer_pen> er, not really :)
23:31 <pippijn> and a lot of code depends on incorrect behaviour from tArray
23:32 <Lucifer_pen> std::vector behaves correctly when you want an array that forms one contiguous block in memory
23:32 <Lucifer_pen> I'm curious what about tArray behaves "incorrectly"
23:32 <pippijn> Lucifer_pen: that's beside the point, tArray does the same
23:32 <Lucifer_pen> it behaves as it was specified, afaik
23:32 <pippijn> yes
23:32 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_pen: it's autoexpanding is one thing
23:32 <wrtlprnft> and it's a pain sometimes
23:32 <Lucifer_pen> yeah, but it was written that way :)
23:32 <pippijn> std::vector is autoexpanding
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23:33 <Lucifer_pen> I'm not arguing that we should keep it, we've been working on switching code out to std classes and removing some of this stuff for quite some time now
23:33 <pippijn> tArray has a design bug
23:33 <wrtlprnft> i mean in the someArray[someArray.size()] = <something>; way
23:33 <Legio> urgh
23:33 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: ah, yes
23:33 <Lucifer_pen> but I'll tell you what, I like lots of people.  I don't like programmers that argue "correct" vs "incorrect"
23:33 <wrtlprnft> what's the design bug?
23:33 <Lucifer_pen> correct is subjective, tArray serves the purpose it was designed to serve
23:34 <pippijn> modifying elements in a const array
23:34 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_pen: it's a PITA
23:34 <Lucifer_pen> yes, but anybody who's worked with std knows that PITA != incorrect :)
23:35 <wrtlprnft> oh, and just imagine all the goodies you get from moving to standard containers
23:35 <Legio> Do you guys ever talk about other things than computers or arma *just a Q not a stab*
23:35 <wrtlprnft> like the tString → std::string move
23:35 <wrtlprnft> Legio: this channel is called #armagetron 
23:35 <Lucifer_pen> I'm curious what position you think I'm arguing here, wrtlprnft
23:35 <Legio> xD
23:35 <wrtlprnft> if you want to talk about random crap go to #lounge or something
23:36 <Legio> pfft wrtlprnft, i forgot how to message you but you must come over here, i will intraduce you to a life =P
23:36 <Legio> xD
23:36 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_pen: dunno really
23:36 <Legio> was a joke bro chil, chill. n what is louge? oO
23:36 <Legio> *lounge
23:36 <Valathar> its another channel
23:36 <Valathar> for general chit chat crap
23:37 <wrtlprnft> at least i think it is
23:37 <Legio> yes i gathered that, but i know jack about IRC
23:37 <wrtlprnft> /join #lounge
23:37 <Legio> can't even remmember how to log into my nick LOL
23:37 <Legio> ok ok ty
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23:37 <wrtlprnft> aww, it doesn't even exist?!
23:37 <Legio> hoi hoi lacka boy!
23:38 <pippijn> torres: template<typename T> struct tArray { T *ptr; tArray () : ptr (new T[2]) { ptr[0] = 0; ptr[1] = 1; } T &operator [] (int i) const { return ptr[i]; } }; int main () { tArray<int> const arr; cout << arr[1]; }
23:38 <torres> 1
23:38 <wrtlprnft> then maybe freenode is the wrong server for you
23:38 <pippijn> torres: template<typename T> struct tArray { T *ptr; tArray () : ptr (new T[2]) { ptr[0] = 0; ptr[1] = 1; } T &operator [] (int i) const { return ptr[i]; } }; int main () { tArray<int> const arr; arr[1] = 30;  cout << arr[1]; }
23:38 <torres> 30
23:38 <Valathar> maybe?
23:38 <Legio> you think? really? well. . .
23:38 <Legio> course, im the sociable type xD
23:38 <pippijn> Lucifer_pen: how does this make sense?
23:38 <Legio> anyway, later alligator, <3
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23:39 <Lucifer_pen> pippijn: you're obviously pretty new to the community.  If you want to come in and make wide sweeping changes, you've got many hours reading the archives on the forums before this conversation is worth having
23:39 <Lucifer_pen> or you can fork
23:39 <Lucifer_pen> there's always that option :)
23:39 <Valathar> irc + Legio = phail
23:39  * wrtlprnft thinks pippijn has the right idea
23:39 <wrtlprnft> but it IS blocked by 0.2.8
23:40 <pippijn> pippijn needs sleep
23:40 <pippijn> good night everybody
23:40 <Lucifer_pen> maybe he does have the right idea, but the reason he needs to read the archives is so he'll find that most of us here already had that idea
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23:40 <Lucifer_pen> which is why we're doing that sort of work in the trunk.....
23:40 <pippijn> Lucifer_pen: it's a good thing you are doing it
23:40 <wrtlprnft> we are?
23:40 <pippijn> Lucifer_pen: I want to help
23:41 <Lucifer_pen> and if he wants to come in here and argue correct vs incorrect code, he damn well better know what we want by reading the archives and the wiki
23:41 <Lucifer_pen> wrtlprnft
23:41 <Lucifer_pen> yes
23:41 <Lucifer_pen> er, still learning miranda, sorry :)
23:41 <wrtlprnft> i don't remember anything besides the tString→std::string rebase and not using tArray in new code
23:41 <Lucifer_pen> we made the decision to switch out towards std before you showed up :)
23:41 <wrtlprnft> i know there's the decision
23:42 <Lucifer_pen> but it's a lot of work, it's big sweeping changes, and it takes time, and time is one thing most of us don't have
23:42 <Lucifer_pen> in case you hadn't noticed....
23:42 <wrtlprnft> that's why we could use pippijn because he seems to have quite a lot of time
23:42 <Lucifer_pen> and one of the reasons 0.2.8 needs to die is so we can continue that work
23:42 <wrtlprnft> and more c++ knowledge than any of us, maybe even z-man
23:42 <Lucifer_pen> because existing work is already causing enough merge headaches....
23:43 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: unlikely
23:43  * Lucifer_pen points up to where he already said this stuff, after wrtlprnft had already said it....
23:43 <pippijn> I probably know the standard better, but I have less experience
23:43 <Lucifer_pen> hard to say
23:43 <Lucifer_pen> pippijn: what reason do you believe could have caused arma to not use stl?
23:43 <Lucifer_pen> just curious :)
23:44 <pippijn> Lucifer_pen: I assume the c++ stdlib wasn't very usable back when arma was created
23:44 <wrtlprnft> yeah, that's correct :-)
23:44 <Lucifer_pen> just checking
23:44 <pippijn> I know that gcc 2.9 had issues compiling c++
23:44 <Lucifer_pen> we get people coming along every now and then that start ripping into us for not using stl
23:45 <wrtlprnft> we all know that tArray wasn't a bad idea at the time it was invented
23:45 <pippijn> I am not ripping into you
23:45 <Lucifer_pen> the game has significant legacy weight right now that we really wa to clean up
23:45 <Lucifer_pen> *want
23:45 <pippijn> back then I had to overload operator new just to get placement new with constructor arguments
23:45 <Lucifer_pen> wrtlprnft: right, that's what I was saying earlier.  :)  It does what it was designed to do.
23:45  * wrtlprnft doesn't get what we're all arguing about
23:45 <pippijn> type *ptr = new (loc) type (foo, bar, baz); // didn't work
23:45 <Lucifer_pen> we just happen to know it doesn't do some things that are needed now
23:45 <wrtlprnft> we basically agree on everything
23:45 <Lucifer_pen> I don't either, we all keep agreeing
23:46 <pippijn> so
23:46 <wrtlprnft> #night
23:46 <pippijn> we are all happy
23:46 <pippijn> great
23:46 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
23:46 <Lucifer_pen> ok, here's what set me off then :)
23:46 <pippijn> let's work on it when the time allows us to
23:46 <Lucifer_pen> when he said he can't contribute because he can't work in 0.2.8
23:46 <Lucifer_pen> because what he wants to do is appropriately done in the trunk
23:46 <pippijn> Lucifer_pen: am I allowed to start moving away from tArray in trunk?
23:47 <Lucifer_pen> yes, but with some constraints
23:47 <pippijn> are those listed somewhere?
23:47 <Lucifer_pen> the constraint is you need to do it in your own bzr branch
23:47 <Lucifer_pen> publish it somewhere, where we can see it
23:48 <pippijn> ah
23:48 <Lucifer_pen> some changes might get merged into the trunk quickly, others may not, we'll have to see
23:48 <pippijn> is there a documented coding style?
23:48 <wrtlprnft> four spaces for indentation
23:48 <wrtlprnft> use spaces inside statements in any way you like
23:49 <wrtlprnft> and put opening braces whereever you like
23:49 <pippijn> uhm
23:49 <pippijn> the only rule is four spaces?
23:50 <pippijn> what about line length?
23:50 <wrtlprnft> because astyle used to enforce it
23:50 <pippijn> astyle breaks more than it does good imo..
23:50 <wrtlprnft> there is no other common code. even z-man's code isn't always consistent
23:50 <wrtlprnft> heh, we figured that out
23:50 <wrtlprnft> that's why i said used to
23:50 <pippijn> yes
23:51 <pippijn> so four spaces?
23:51 <pippijn> what about brace indentation?
23:51 <Lucifer_pen> it's basically "don't do things that annoy people" :)
23:51 <pippijn> I don't know what annoys you
23:51 <Lucifer_pen> and "don't be annoyed by trivial things"
23:51 <wrtlprnft> astyle used to enforce the same level as the code around them
23:51 <Lucifer_pen> I prefer function/method signatures to be all on one line
23:52 <wrtlprnft> \tif()
23:52 <wrtlprnft> \t{
23:52 <wrtlprnft> \t\tcode
23:52 <wrtlprnft> \t}
23:52 <Lucifer_pen> that's about the only thing that really annoys me in other people's code, when they do this:
23:52 <Lucifer_pen> const char*
23:52 <wrtlprnft> int
23:52 <wrtlprnft> main()
23:52 <Lucifer_pen> functionname(whatever)
23:52 <Lucifer_pen> {
23:52 <pippijn> Lucifer_pen: you'd hate my code :-)
23:52 <Lucifer_pen> that really annoys me :)
23:52 <pippijn> that's GNU style
23:52 <pippijn> I write GNU style in my own code
23:52 <Lucifer_pen> which is known to be "correct", right?
23:53 <pippijn> no
23:53 <pippijn> styles are not correct
23:53 <pippijn> styles make more or less sense
23:53 <pippijn> no style is perfect
23:53 <pippijn> to me, it makes sense to do
23:53 <pippijn> if (foo)
23:53 <pippijn>   {
23:53 <pippijn>     blah blah;
23:53 <pippijn>   }
23:53 <Lucifer_pen> ?  that's odd  ;)
23:53 <Lucifer_pen> I like this:
23:53 <Lucifer_pen> if(foo) {
23:53 <Lucifer_pen>    blah blah;
23:53 <Lucifer_pen> }
23:54 <pippijn> 3-space?
23:54 <Lucifer_pen> closing brace lines up with the statement it goes with
23:54  * wrtlprnft really goes to bed now. This discussion is pointless
23:54 <pippijn> yes
23:54 <Lucifer_pen> I use 4 space in my code editor
23:54 <pippijn> I need sleep, too
23:54 <Lucifer_pen> replace tabs with spaces, etc
23:54 <pippijn> good night
23:54 <pippijn> Lucifer_pen: good
23:54 <Lucifer_pen> heh, it's early evening for me
23:54  * wrtlprnft wisely notes: use whatever you see in the surrounding code
23:54  * Lucifer_pen agrees
23:54 <pippijn> hm
23:54  * Lucifer_pen also notes that if you don't like the style in the code you're on, change it
23:54 <pippijn> but then the entire code will never be consistent
23:55 <Lucifer_pen> (when someone else touches it, they'll make themselves happy)
23:55 <pippijn> I would like to make the code consistent
23:55 <Lucifer_pen> style consistency is overrated
23:55 <pippijn> I don't agree
23:55 <pippijn> but I still need sleep
23:55 <pippijn> good night
23:55 <Valathar> and impossible in a community project
23:55 <Lucifer_pen> ok, we'll have this argument later :)
23:55 <pippijn> Valathar: no
23:55 <pippijn> but anyway
23:55 <pippijn> good night :O
23:56  * Lucifer_pen needs to clean up the lab anyway
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23:56 <Valathar> correction *near impossible in a community project
23:58 <Lucifer_pen> still overrated, heh
23:58 <Lucifer_pen> there's no substitue for knowing the language, and syntax highlighting takes care of the rest
23:58 <Lucifer_pen> style consistency is past the point of diminishing returns
23:58 <Lucifer_pen> let's instead worry about writing in a style that is comfortable to you, and legible by others, and not sweat the small stuff
23:59  * Lucifer_pen is a rebel!

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00:08 <Lucifer_pen> if you don't mind someone else's editor replacing them with spaces :)
00:08 <Lucifer_pen> do you really use tabs?
00:12 <luke-jr> … yes
00:12 <luke-jr> they're perfect for what they're designed for
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01:19 <Lucifer_pen> #ping
01:19 <armabot> pong
01:20 <spidey> #pong
01:20 <armabot> ping
01:20 <spidey> #poing
01:20 <armabot> piong
01:20 <spidey> ;O
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01:20 <spidey> #list alias
01:20 <armabot> spidey: monologue, roulette, 13, 42, 7, aawiki, action, add, afl, aka, armabot, armaconfig, armaservers, armasettings, arrow, babel, ball, bigbrother, bigos, botsnack, bounce, bug, bye, bzr, cat, cfg, chatlog, check, cheers, cinf, cink, cookie, crazylate, ctwf, dance, date, davestupidwebsite"rss, ddl, del, delire, die, die, digg, digitx, ding, disclaimer, do, dog, dong, dorka, eliza, eroulette, f, (3 more messages)
01:21 <spidey> #more
01:21 <spidey> #more
01:21 <spidey> #more
01:21 <armabot> spidey: fastfood, finc, fink, fofo, fortune, g, gcalc, gfight, go, godtodd, going, goodbye, grep, grep2, hd, hell, hello, hey, hoop, hungary, hyphy, impregnate, insight, ircstats, jesus, joke, kill, killsomeone, kinc, kinf, laddle10, lastseen, lastseenf, lastseen flexsmum, legit, lock, log, log, ls, luke, lukejr, lukejrwork, lukejrworks, m, mail, man, mcalc, mfaq, monologue, monkey, morning, move, (2 more messages)
01:21 <armabot> spidey: mrbougo, murder, nano, new, night, noob, null, onlineplayers, onlineservers, pacman, peek, pingme, pingy, piong, poing, pong, praise, pwn, q, quot, raaaaaaape, rape, rating, rating2, rating2test, realchatlogs, remove, res, resources, rou, roulette, roulette, roulete, rules, r‭oulette, sd, send, serv, serverdetails, serverinfo, servers, serverscores, si, slap, smoke, speed, ss, stalk, (1 more message)
01:21 <armabot> spidey: stfu, stone, sty, svn, t, tea, team, test, thank, the, tst4, tst5, tstservers, uname, unlock, ur, vanhayes, w, wc, weather, where, whereis4p, whereisp4, where are the noobs ?, whoareyou, whoisp4, wikipedia, wild, wisdom, wp, wrtlprnft, ww, x, xd, ¡¡¡, and ‭
01:21 <spidey> that's alot of alias's
01:21 <spidey> #help and
01:21 <armabot> spidey: Error: There is no command "and".
01:21 <spidey> #and
01:21 <spidey> .....
01:22 <spidey> #jesus
01:22 <armabot> spidey: (jesus <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "echo Jesus thinks $1 is a jerk.".
01:22 <spidey> #jesus luke-jr
01:22 <armabot> Jesus thinks luke-jr is a jerk.
01:22 <spidey> ...ok
01:23 <spidey> Spidey thinks luke-jr is a jerk too :O
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02:21 <Lucifer_pen> ok, yay, got gnumeric running
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02:45 <Flex> BOOM HEADSHOT!!1
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02:49 <Monkey_arma> #flex
02:49 <armabot> BOOM HEADSHOT!!11ONEELVENONE11!!!
02:50 <noob7> #flex
02:50 <armabot> BOOM HEADSHOT!!11ONEELVENONE11!!!
02:50 <Flex> #flex
02:50 <armabot> BOOM HEADSHOT!!11ONEELVENONE11!!!
02:50 <Flex> #flex
02:50 <armabot> BOOM HEADSHOT!!11ONEELVENONE11!!!
02:50 <Flex> #flex
02:50 <armabot> BOOM HEADSHOT!!11ONEELVENONE11!!!
02:50 <noob7> ./admin silence flex
02:50 <Flex> can we remove the one stuff
02:51 <Monkey_arma> sure
02:51 <Flex> #flex
02:51 <armabot> BOOM HEADSHOT!!11ONEELVENONE11!!!
02:51 <Monkey_arma> #flex
02:51 <armabot> BOOM HEADSHOT!!22TWOTWELVETWO22!!!
02:51 <luke-jr> hm
02:52 <Flex> i'm going to mother fucking BOOMHEAD SHOT you in the face!
02:52 <luke-jr> is it normal for my 2 yo to be learning to read already?
02:52 <Flex> :o
02:52 <Flex> what's 2 yo
02:52 <luke-jr> 2 year-old
02:52 <Flex> that's fantastic :)
02:54 <noob7> maybe autistic
02:54 <Flex> gn
02:54 <Monkey_arma> cu
02:54 <noob7> but most definitely fantastic
02:54 <luke-jr> uh
02:54 <Flex> Monkey_arma, xxxx
02:54 <luke-jr> don't austistic people have social skill problems?
02:55 <noob7> do they?
02:55 <luke-jr> I don't see any way that's possible if so
02:55 <Monkey_arma> Flex, xxxxx
02:55 <Flex> Monkey_arma, xxxxxxxx
02:55 <luke-jr> " a variable developmental disorder that appears by age three and is characterized by impairment of the ability to form normal social relationships, by impairment of the ability to communicate with others, and by stereotyped behavior patterns"
02:55 <noob7> by age three
02:56 <luke-jr> oh well
02:56 <luke-jr> so far, so good
02:56 <Flex> so she/he is going to be a nerd/dork :p
02:56 <Flex> that's kinda good
02:56 <luke-jr> Flex: unlikely
02:56 <luke-jr> she talks to everyone and anyone
02:57 <Flex> could be a phase, but to make sure keep her like that
02:57 <Flex> i'm not doctor anyway
02:57 <Flex> :p
02:57 <Monkey_arma> keep her away from tron....if you want her to stay normal
02:57 <Flex> or teach her
02:57 <Flex> BOOM HEADSHOT
02:57 <noob7> keep her away from people...
02:57 <noob7> ;)
02:58 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: she watches anime with me sometimes too
02:58 <Flex> anime is for loosers
02:58 <luke-jr> anime is for Flex
02:59 <Flex> mr 50's man telling me
02:59 <Valathar> luke-jr whats the paraeter to edit turn turn brake into boost?
02:59 <Valathar> *parameter
02:59 <luke-jr> #armaconfig brake
02:59 <armabot> luke-jr: CYCLE_BRAKE: Brake intensity (default: 30) || CYCLE_BRAKE_DEPLETE: Rate at which the brake reservoir depletes when you are braking (default: 1) || CYCLE_BRAKE_DEPLETE_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_BRAKE_DEPLETE differs from its default? (default: 3) || CYCLE_BRAKE_REFILL: Rate at which the brake reservoir refills when you are not braking (default: 0.1) || (1 more message)
02:59 <luke-jr> CYCLE_BRAKE
02:59 <Flex> Valathar, BOOM_HEAD_SHOT 1
02:59 <luke-jr> negative values
02:59 <Valathar> ah ok
02:59 <Flex> Valathar, BOOM_HEAD_SHOT 1
03:00 <Monkey_arma> edit turn turn?
03:00 <luke-jr> Flex: stfu already
03:00 <Flex> no u
03:00  * luke-jr pwnt Flex
03:00 <luke-jr> bbl
03:00 <Flex> when
03:00 <noob7> when its time to pwn you again
03:00 <noob7> duh
03:01 <Flex> stick that 7 up your butt, buddie!
03:01 <noob7> ;)
03:01 <Flex> ok gn
03:01 <Flex> seriously this time!
03:01 <Monkey_arma> cu
03:02 <Valathar> ok last Q. how do i disable teamplay and make it free for all
03:02 <Flex> something aorund the lines of BOOM_TEAM_HEAD_SHOT 1
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03:08 <noob13> Valathar: u might want to set TEAMS_MAX 12, TEAM_MAX_PLAYERS 1, and TALK_TO_MASTER 1 if i get understand u correctly.
03:08 <Valathar> i figured it out
03:08 <noob13> good for u.
03:17 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: yo
03:17 <Monkey_arma> yo
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03:33 <Lucifer_pen> :-*
03:34 <Lucifer_pen> :P
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03:40 <Lucifer_pen> #ping
03:40 <armabot> pong
03:41 <Lucifer_pen> er, how do I get a list of people in a room?
03:41  * Lucifer_pen forgot
03:42 <StickyNoob> Lucifer_pen: /names
03:42 <Lucifer_pen> ah right, anksth
03:42 <Lucifer_pen> there's a bug in pidgin apparently
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03:49 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Gibolt/SoccerBall/sb-0.2.0.aamap.xml: Resource by Gibolt
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06:25 <Lucifer> man, my c++ is RUSTY
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06:38 <luke-jr> http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=þTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-adv.html&r=1&p=1&f=G&l=50&d=þG01&S1=20080055269.PGNR.&OS=DN/20080055269&RS=DN/20080055269
06:45 <Lucifer> er, maybe this is a dumb question, but std::string has a << operator that works like std::cout, right?
07:05 <luke-jr> Lucifer: I don't think so.
07:05 <luke-jr> you need to turn it into a stream, I think
07:06 <Lucifer> yeah, turns out there's a stringstream
07:06 <Lucifer> has a .str() method that returns the string
07:20 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer: it's just our tString that has it :-)
07:20 <Lucifer> ah, that's where I've seen it then :)
07:21  * Lucifer considers nabbing tString from the trunk
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07:26 <wrtlprnft> Monkey_arma: note that the default fortress settings only choose suicide of teamkill if they can't find an enemy to blame the kill on
07:28 <wrtlprnft> #later tell epsy it's not configurable it seems
07:28 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
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07:34 <Monkey_arma> waht what where why when?
07:35 <Monkey_arma> wrtlprnft, if you mean the fort match i played on cafe then whatever..that needs sorting...AI or whatever...it was a clear load of bs
07:36 <Monkey_arma> if i get tked then it should recongnise that..end of
07:36 <Monkey_arma> :)
07:36 <Monkey_arma> good luck coding that
07:37 <Monkey_arma> the enemy was a mile off...
07:37 <Lucifer> can't be perfect, so instead it tries to do the best job it can and do the least damage it can
07:38 <Lucifer> which is why it prefers to credit suicides over teamkills.  People get mad when it says team kill
07:41 <Monkey_arma> well i know ai is complex but this was a mile off
07:41 <Monkey_arma> surely some level of distance should be a tk
07:42 <Monkey_arma> well in time..no rush....the first thing is to fix those rediculous glances....or at least put an option to choose between the 2 styles of glance
07:44 <Monkey_arma> not sure if AI is the correct term...maybe core dump detection...but anyway
07:44  * Monkey_arma shuts up
07:56 <wrtlprnft> Monkey_arma: note that distance doesn't really matter
07:57 <wrtlprnft> having touched a fresh enemy wall in the near past makes it a normal kill
07:57 <wrtlprnft> at least that's as far as i understand the algorithm
07:58 <wrtlprnft> also i think it does a great job at detecting kills
08:03 <Monkey_arma> wrtlprnft, no offence but i play a lot more than you....im not saying you guys dont do a good job just that the algorithm, at some point, will need improving...trust me on this...i play too much....
08:04 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma plays more like wrtlprnft than wrtlprnft does@
08:04 <luke-jr> !
08:04 <Lucifer> "I play a lot more than you" is some sort of logical fallacy, I'm just too tired to come up with it
08:04 <Lucifer> something about an appeal to authority, or assertion of authority
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08:54 <wrtlprnft> #later tell monkey_* your quit message is cropped at “relis”.
08:54 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
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09:57 <pippijn> good morning
09:58 <joda_bot> pippijn: morning
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12:31 <epsy> #tea
12:31 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (5/32): Betu, GH05T RID3R, iCanHasCheez, rubin, V23
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14:31 <epsy> z-man-work, there?
14:31 <z-man-work> yep.
14:32 <epsy> z-man-work, i was going to work a bit on the use of Global IDs on the web, so you could register an account at official forums then eg subscribe to FFF with someone@forums
14:33 <epsy> my main question is, the wiki having quite dispersed info on auth, where would I describe my ideas?
14:33 <z-man-work> You mean, automatically?
14:33 <epsy> the user would have to login with his GID
14:34 <z-man-work> I'm not really good at Wiki structure, ask Lucifer.
14:35 <epsy> may I create a new page, or put it on http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Hash_Authentication_Design or on http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Hash_Based_Authentication
14:37 <z-man-work> I'd create a new page. Your topic is Authentication for Tournament Use, that's independent of the auth method that is actually used.
14:38 <epsy> not only for tourneys, it might be used for other stuff, like login-in to forums
14:38 <epsy> i just wonder where it would stop, heh
14:38 <wrtlprnft> epsy: i do have a script that allows you to login with any global ID
14:38 <wrtlprnft> but it sends the cleartext password to the server, so pishing is possible
14:38 <wrtlprnft> i wanted to write some JS that does the mangling on the client side
14:39 <epsy> wrtlprnft, yeah, but it's javascript, and we want the least possible of that
14:39 <wrtlprnft> well, without javascript you'll end up sending the cleartext password
14:39 <epsy> i thought of just having the auth server providing a web form
14:39 <wrtlprnft> oh
14:40 <epsy> it'sd quite not in the same mood as our auth sheme
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14:40 <wrtlprnft> but that would be a totally different method
14:40 <epsy> yes
14:40 <epsy> more like an 'extra service'
14:40 <wrtlprnft> won't have a lot to do with global ids, then ;-)
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14:41 <wrtlprnft> anyways, g2g
14:41 <epsy> cu
14:41 <epsy> heh
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14:46 <epsy> gonna write that later, /me goes take his shower
15:20 <StickyNoob> whos shower you taking?
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15:23 <joda_bot> StickyNoob: Does epsy steal showers ? :-P
15:23 <epsy> haha
15:23 <epsy> damned britishes :D
15:26  * joda_bot tells armabot to steal a shower from epsy's hideout
15:28 <fonkay> how do you do weather again?
15:28 <fonkay> #weather?
15:28 <StickyNoob> step 1) bcome god
15:28 <StickyNoob> *become
15:28 <StickyNoob> #weather
15:28 <armabot> StickyNoob: (weather <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city.
15:29 <StickyNoob> Foreign city ????
15:29 <fonkay> #weather halifax
15:29 <armabot> fonkay: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
15:29 <StickyNoob> #weather Coventry, England
15:29 <armabot> StickyNoob: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
15:29 <eddiefantastic> #weather Cardiff, Near England
15:29 <armabot> eddiefantastic: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
15:29 <fonkay> fucked if i remember
15:30 <epsy> fonkay, ask ghav
15:30 <epsy> ghab
15:30 <fonkay> meh, i'll just go online and check it.. easier
15:31 <Flex> #weather London, United Kingdom
15:31 <armabot> Flex: The current temperature in London, United Kingdom is 62.6°F (2:20 PM BST on April 22, 2008). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 44.6°F. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
15:32 <StickyNoob> #weather Coventry, UK
15:32 <armabot> StickyNoob: The current temperature in Coventry, United Kingdom is 66.9°F (2:30 PM BST on April 22, 2008). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 55.4°F. Pressure: 29.57 in 1001.2 hPa (Falling).
15:33 <StickyNoob> wow thats so much more pro than the window im sitting next to
15:33 <Flex> GEEK!
15:36 <eddiefantastic> #weather Cardiff, United Kingdom
15:36 <armabot> eddiefantastic: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
15:36 <hoax> LOL
15:36 <eddiefantastic> bah
15:37 <hoax> sheep?
15:37 <eddiefantastic> yes, please
15:37 <hoax> sound like u got some already
15:40 <StickyNoob> well according to the EU Wales is not part of the UK
15:40 <Flex> :o
15:41 <Flex> #weather Cardiff, Wales
15:41 <armabot> Flex: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
15:41 <StickyNoob> #weather Cardiff, UK
15:41 <armabot> StickyNoob: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
15:42 <StickyNoob> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/3715512.stm
15:42 <Flex> #weather South Glamorgan, UK
15:42 <armabot> Flex: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
15:43 <Flex> #weather Wales, UK
15:43 <armabot> Flex: The current temperature in Sheffield, United Kingdom is 66.2°F (2:43 PM BST on April 22, 2008). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 44.6°F. Pressure: 29.84 in 1010.4 hPa (Steady).
15:44 <Flex> there we go :D
15:44 <Flex> lol
15:45 <hoax> hahaha, nice
15:45 <hoax> I know where i'd rather be
15:46 <Flex> there's quite afew national parks in the uk.. but is the whole of scotland a national park? :D
15:46 <Flex> seems to have very few roads
15:47 <hoax> whats a kgb agent & oral sex got in common
15:47 <hoax> one slip of the tongue & ur in the shit
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15:53 <eddiefantastic> I live in Sheffield :S
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15:57 <StickyNoob> why do you care about the whether in Cardiff then?
15:57 <MrBougo> #weather cardiff
15:57 <armabot> MrBougo: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
15:57 <eddiefantastic> #weather Wales, UK
15:57 <MrBougo> pfff
15:57 <armabot> eddiefantastic: The current temperature in Sheffield, United Kingdom is 64.2°F (2:57 PM BST on April 22, 2008). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 42.8°F. Pressure: 29.81 in 1009.4 hPa (Steady).
15:57 <StickyNoob> we have been through this MrBougo
15:58 <eddiefantastic> According to that Wales is in Sheffield
15:58 <MrBougo> 500?
15:58 <MrBougo> :/
15:58 <StickyNoob> hang on
15:58 <StickyNoob> Sheffield isnt even in wales
15:58 <MrBougo> eh
15:58 <Flex> yeah lol
15:58 <MrBougo> #weather  brussels
15:58 <armabot> MrBougo: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
15:58 <MrBougo> thank you, armabot
15:58 <MrBougo> #weather  brussels, belgium
15:58 <armabot> MrBougo: The current temperature in Brussels, Belgium is 64.4°F (3:50 PM CEST on April 22, 2008). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 44.6°F. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Rising).
15:58 <MrBougo> #weather  brussels, europe
15:59 <armabot> MrBougo: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
15:59 <MrBougo> #weather  brussels, brussels
15:59 <armabot> MrBougo: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
15:59 <StickyNoob> #weather Ulan Bator, Mongolia
15:59 <armabot> StickyNoob: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
15:59 <MrBougo> #crazylate [g numbers of corns on a unicorn"
15:59 <armabot> MrBougo: Error: Missing "]".  You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands.
15:59 <MrBougo> aw
15:59 <MrBougo> #crazylate [g numbers of corns on a unicorn]
15:59 <armabot> MrBougo: The computer of Google did not come for aforesaid with any thing.
15:59 <MrBougo> corns?
16:01 <StickyNoob> #crazylate [g numbers of hos in a hoax]
16:01 <armabot> StickyNoob: The computer of Google did not come for aforesaid with any thing.
16:01 <MrBougo> #crazylate [g numbers of horns on a unicorn]
16:01 <armabot> MrBougo: The computer of Google did not come for aforesaid with any thing.
16:02 <MrBougo> #crazylate [g number of horns on a unicorn]
16:02 <MrBougo> right
16:02 <armabot> MrBougo: to number of horns in unicorn = 1
16:02 <MrBougo> #crazylate hello
16:02 <armabot> MrBougo: hello
16:02 <MrBougo> #crazylate [hello]
16:02 <armabot> MrBougo: Hello MrBougo:) Appointment # 32: "i2020 you can surely... who said that to him, little wookie of the lukie" (added by spidey in 07:34 P.M., of November the 05 of 2006)
16:03 <MrBougo> little wookie of the lukie
16:03 <MrBougo> #quote get 32
16:03 <armabot> MrBougo: Quote #32: "i2020> sure you can... who told you that, little lukie wookie" (added by spidey at 07:34 PM, November 05, 2006)
16:03 <StickyNoob> we need to start a petiton, bring back 2020, it worked for zop
16:03 <MrBougo> #crazylate luke-jr
16:03 <armabot> MrBougo: Lucas-jr
16:03 <MrBougo> #crazylate luke jr
16:03 <armabot> MrBougo: jr of Lucas
16:03 <MrBougo> meh, it used to mess up
16:04 <MrBougo> #crazylate of luke-jr
16:04 <MrBougo> "it worked for zop" ????
16:04 <armabot> MrBougo: of Lucas-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr
16:04 <MrBougo> here it is
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16:26 <P4> #ls joda_bot
16:26 <armabot> P4: ~*SP*~joda.bot seems to be on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress right now.
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16:41 <joda_bot> P4: ?
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16:54 <P4> #ls joda
16:54 <armabot> P4: ~*SP*~joda.bot seems to be on Chico's Brake Boost Styball Games right now.
16:55 <P4> :P
16:55 <P4> i thought so
16:55 <joda_bot> :-P
16:59 <ct|kyle> joda_bot: you better make sure kick_to is in armahacktron :D
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17:11 <Valathar> okay on my server where it shows on the server list it says Options: all options at default values | how do i edit that directive?
17:11 <joda_bot> kyle: what does it do ?
17:11 <P4> oO
17:11 <P4> im banned from styball, lol
17:15 <joda_bot> Valathar: there was an option... but I can't find it right now
17:16 <Valathar> yea likewise i know ive seen it but i cant find it now
17:16 <joda_bot> Valathar: same for me
17:17 <joda_bot> P4: how long have you been kicked ?
17:17 <joda_bot> and what did you do ?
17:17 <Valathar> aha
17:17 <Valathar> found it
17:17 <Valathar> SERVER_OPTIONS All settings at default values.
17:17 <joda_bot> but it is not documented right ?
17:18 <Valathar> heh 99% of the gaeisnt well docuented
17:18 <Valathar> *documented
17:18 <P4> i kicked all players so the server will restart (including me), then when i wanted to rejoin i've noticed that i'm banned :P
17:18 <joda_bot> P4: did you ban all users ?
17:18 <P4> i was kicked 1st time from styball since i can't remember
17:18 <P4> no
17:18 <joda_bot> because I can't get into too
17:19 <joda_bot> perhaps the server did not restart after all
17:19 <P4> `just kick 4 kick 3 kick 1 kick 2
17:19 <joda_bot> just the scripted reseted it self
17:19 <P4> sty
17:19 <P4> #sty
17:19 <armabot> P4: Chico's Brake Boost Styball Games: Players (1/8): CTxP4
17:19 <joda_bot> ahhhh
17:19 <joda_bot> ?
17:19 <joda_bot> your back in
17:19 <P4> strange thing happen
17:19 <P4> things*
17:42 <ct|kyle> #cfg kick_to
17:42 <armabot> ct|kyle: Sorry, no matches :S
17:42 <ct|kyle> kicks a player to a server
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17:44 <MrBougo> http://www.imagepoop.com/image/1340/4Chan-Team-Rocket-Intro-Sequence.html
17:44 <MrBougo> oh my
17:44 <MrBougo> xD
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18:08 <noob7> bougo has ties to 4chan? "oh my xD" indeed
18:10 <luke-jr> MrBougo: dubbie
18:11 <noob7> luke: doobie?
18:12 <luke-jr> noob7: u too, dubbie
18:12 <MrBougo> dubbie?
18:12 <MrBougo> wat's that?
18:12 <noob7> #google dubbie
18:12 <armabot> noob7: Search took 0.23 seconds: Urban Dictionary: dubbie: <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dubbie>; Flickr: Photos & Video from dubbie: <http://www.flickr.com/photos/dubby/>; Flickr: dubbie: <http://www.flickr.com/people/dubby/>; Dubbie the Blonde (Character): <http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0025589/>; MySpace.com - Dubbie - 20 - Female - California - www.myspace.com ...: (2 more messages)
18:12 <MrBougo> noob7: no, i'd NEVER go to 4chan
18:12 <noob7> 20 yo female I guess...
18:12 <MrBougo> but i was stumbling around
18:12 <MrBougo> and i stumbled upon that page
18:12 <noob7> now 4chan is spreading its stuff via stumbleupon already?
18:12 <MrBougo> naaah
18:13 <MrBougo> that's a screencap
18:13 <noob7> I know
18:13 <luke-jr> 5.  dubbie
18:13 <luke-jr>   8 up, 13 down
18:13 <luke-jr>   a Anime fan who is either really broke or really cheap,and only watches anime on Cartoon network or kids WB. they may also say stuff such as "Inuyasha is my boyfreind cause' i'm kagome!" annoys "Real" anime fans.
18:13 <MrBougo> I think they banned 4chan or something :p
18:13 <MrBougo> I hope
18:13 <MrBougo> oh no, not at all
18:13 <noob7> luke, the last time I watched "anime" was maybe 10 years ago
18:13 <noob7> sailor moon, while eating lunch after school
18:13 <MrBougo> eh
18:14 <luke-jr> noob7: see, dubbie
18:14 <noob7> hehe :P
18:14 <MrBougo> nah noob7, I think only "good" (notice the quotes) content from 4chan will go on stumbleupon
18:14 <MrBougo> there can be good stuff there
18:14 <noob7> "good" as in "horrible wrong"
18:14 <MrBougo> but man, there is so much crap around that
18:15 <luke-jr> MrBougo: can we hang noob*?
18:15 <MrBougo> now, some guys dig in the shite to find pearls
18:15 <MrBougo> how so luke-jr ?
18:15 <luke-jr> uh
18:15 <luke-jr> rope
18:15  * noob7 starts walking awaya whilest whisteling slowly
18:16 <luke-jr> actually
18:16  * luke-jr grabs noob7
18:16 <noob7> DONT
18:16 <noob7> KISS
18:16 <noob7> ME
18:16  * luke-jr inserts fishing hooks in both his cheeks
18:16 <hoax> kinky
18:16  * luke-jr ties them to fishing lines
18:17 <luke-jr> MrBougo: you take this one over there -------------------->
18:17 <luke-jr> I'll take the other one over here <-------------------
18:17 <MrBougo> oh yikes
18:17  * noob7 grins
18:17 <MrBougo> well
18:17 <MrBougo> at least he didn't kiss you
18:18  * luke-jr would never kiss anyone other than MrBougo ☺
18:18 <noob7> that would have made for a sexual assault
18:18 <luke-jr> hoax:
18:18 <luke-jr>        
18:18 <luke-jr>                !
18:19 <hoax> ?
18:19 <luke-jr> hoax: you can hook his ____ and go over there ^^^
18:20 <epsy>  xxh   aa  s   o     ga i            y
18:20 <hoax> u got a smaller hook ?
18:20 <luke-jr> lol
18:22 <MrBougo> < epsy>  xxh   aa  s   o     ga i            y
18:22 <MrBougo> amen
18:22 <epsy> can you read it?
18:22 <epsy> hoax should be able to read it
18:22 <epsy> :D
18:23 <hoax> lol
18:23 <hoax> idk
18:23 <epsy> dont lie hoax
18:23 <MrBougo> no epsy I can't read it :
18:23 <MrBougo> :p
18:23 <epsy> hoax, HINT! : the first word is hoax
18:24 <hoax> oh right, then fu
18:24 <epsy> xD
18:24 <hoax> lol
18:30 <luke-jr> Perl, the only language where 'foobar' == 0 is true
18:30 <epsy> in php, 'epsy' == 0 :(
18:31 <luke-jr> lol
18:31 <luke-jr> rly?
18:31 <epsy> php > echo 'epsy' == 0;
18:31 <epsy> 1
18:31 <luke-jr> http://xkcd.com/394/
18:31 <epsy> php > dfvsbfkmijdfioshieurdf
18:31 <epsy> php > ;
18:31 <epsy> php >
19:00 <Lucifer> grrrr, how can I have screwwed up my flags?
19:00 <Lucifer> :(
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