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00:45 <Durka_> oO
00:45 <hoop_tron> hi
00:45 <Durka_> C : P
00:46 <hoop_tron> C:þ
00:46 <spidey> bellsouth is a group of cock suckers.
00:46 <Durka_> spidey's ISP ftl
00:46 <spidey> dude
00:46 <spidey> here's what happened
00:46 <hoop_tron> ehm, did anybody ever write documentation about arma source code?
00:47 <spidey> i've been having net problems for 2 days now, so i called them, they connected and said it was because of a defunct modem
00:47 <spidey> so i order a new one, $69 that i don't have
00:47 <spidey> i get the modem this morning...same fucking problems!
00:47 <+noob7> spidey just tell em to fuck off and get a new ISP and a contract sponsored modem? :)
00:47 <spidey> they swear there's nothing wrong on their end, so i just got back from charter, we're getting a 1mb down/1mb up cable connection tomorrow
00:48 <+noob7> haha there ya go :)
00:48 <spidey> 'er
00:48 <spidey> 10mb down/1mb up
00:48 <spidey> that + the phone is about $30 cheaper than bellsouth anyways, and i had charter about 2 years before dsl, never had a problem with them
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01:17 <ghableska> #weather 50266
01:17 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 50.4°F (7:19 PM CDT on March 11, 2008). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 37.4°F. Pressure: 28.91 in 978.9 hPa (Rising).
01:18 <+noob7> spidey how much is a 10/1 mb line including phone for you?
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02:26 <spidey> noob7_away, $80
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02:32 <luke-jr_> spidey: I'd get 12/2 for that
02:33 <luke-jr_> heck, I have 12/2 for the $42/mo I pay
02:33 <luke-jr_> no clue why, it's supposed to be 7/1
02:33 <spidey> well
02:33 <spidey> 10/1 is $59/mo
02:33 <spidey> $39 for the first 6 months
02:33 <spidey> it's $80 because of the phone too
02:33 <spidey> we're changing everything over
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04:23 <v1jok3r> Hola
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04:23 <v1jok3r> Anyone on?
04:23 <v1jok3r> o.o guess not.
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06:19 <Self_Destructo> wrtlprnft: are you here?
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06:35 <Self_Destructo> wrtlprnft: you there?
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07:26 <wrtlprnft> Self_Destructo: now I am
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11:13 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r8312 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/config/settings_authentication.cfg: Add new default settings to settings_authentication.cfg
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12:29 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8313 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (language/english_base.txt src/engine/ePlayer.cpp): Shuffling no longer uses tString::toInt so it can (and does) report input errors.
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17:00 <epsy> eddiefantastic, z-man: http://xclan.armagetron.co.uk/competitions.php?c=2401
17:02 <z-man> Good to see Legit has found a partner :)
17:02 <epsy> haha :þ
17:03 <z-man> Or is that a placeholder?
17:03 <StickyNoob> what day is it on?
17:03 <epsy> there was a very few amount of players who signed up for 20:45
17:03 <epsy> z-man, no, ~ X ~ is the guy who sometimes comes here as xfroggy
17:03 <epsy> StickyNoob, the 16th
17:03 <z-man> ah.
17:04 * z-man hates it when people have different names on IRC, forum and in the game.
17:04 <StickyNoob> hmm could put myself up as a last resort partner if someones desperate
17:05 <epsy> StickyNoob, there's the 'first 5 minutes rule'
17:05 <eddiefantastic> epsy: this Sunday huh?
17:05 <epsy> eddiefantastic, yes
17:05 <eddiefantastic> Hey, I could play
17:06 <epsy> :\/
17:06 <eddiefantastic> anyone want to be my partner starting at 20:30?
17:06 <eddiefantastic> *20:45
17:07 <epsy> eddiefantastic, registration was supposed to end yesterday
17:07 <eddiefantastic> oh
17:07 <epsy> eddiefantastic, but, i got some free time
17:08 <eddiefantastic> stick me down with voodoo, he said he could play
17:08 <epsy> eddiefantastic, ¦×¦.Team.Sumo.Server, node7's or Z-man's ?
17:08 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r8314 /tools/map-preview-js/map-preview.js: make walls a polyline and not a polygon. I'm surprised I never noticed this before.
17:08 <eddiefantastic> node7?
17:09 <eddiefantastic> wrtlprnft: you want to play with me?
17:09 <epsy> noob7_away, ping
17:09 <epsy> bah, he's on his bouncer
17:09 <eddiefantastic> z-man's I guess
17:09 <eddiefantastic> who is TOK?
17:09 <epsy> no clue
17:10 <eddiefantastic> hmm, could be a bad thing. error's pretty good
17:10 <eddiefantastic> maybe I'll take x server
17:10 <epsy> kk
17:10 <eddiefantastic> what's happening with server admins this time?
17:11 <epsy> do you have someone to delegate the admin of your server or..?
17:11 <wrtlprnft> eddiefantastic: play where?
17:11 <wrtlprnft> #lastseen ed
17:11 <armabot> wrtlprnft: EDU seems to be on Norm's Place right now.
17:11 <eddiefantastic> in the tst on sun
17:11 <wrtlprnft> ooh
17:11 <wrtlprnft> sure!
17:11 <eddiefantastic> http://xclan.armagetron.co.uk/competitions.php?c=2401
17:12 <eddiefantastic> in z-mans server at 20:45 ok?
17:12 <eddiefantastic> sry, x swerver
17:12 <epsy> basically you could admin your serv at 20:00, then jump in ¦×¦.Serv to play, while delegating admin to someone else
17:12 <eddiefantastic> I'm not around at 20:00, those kids of mine still want stories
17:12 <wrtlprnft> ah
17:13 <wrtlprnft> sure, why not?
17:13 <epsy> eddiefantastic: oh, ok, do you have a server admin other than you then?
17:13 <eddiefantastic> epsy: you are playing on mine at 20:00, you want it?
17:14 <epsy> ok, i could do that
17:15 <eddiefantastic> epsy if you win round 1 you are still there, if you lose can you admin it instead?
17:16 <epsy> right, i can do that
17:16 <eddiefantastic> thx
17:16 * wrtlprnft can always admin ¦x¦
17:17 * epsy is thinking about some kind of USER_LEVEL_WILDTOKEN *@tststaff
17:18 <wrtlprnft> WILDTOKEN doesn't exist yet, right?
17:18 <epsy> wrtlprnft, ah, next time you have to convert it from fort/sumo or vice versa, just include fort.cfg or sumo.cfg
17:18 <epsy> no
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17:18 <eddiefantastic> what's the procedure to set up an armathenticating server?
17:19 <epsy> --enable-armathentication at ./configure time will do it on a recent 0.2.8
17:19 <wrtlprnft> and GLOBAL_ID 1
17:19 <z-man> Yep. You should also get and install ZThread before that, so logins can be immediate.
17:19 <epsy> wrtlprnft, <lukemode>armathentication still works without it</lukemode>
17:20 <wrtlprnft> epsy: armathentication doesn't do anything if you don't change *some* setting from its default
17:20 <wrtlprnft> it just leaves your server crippled because ADMIN_PASS will cease to exist
17:20 <z-man> If you're on a GCC 4.X system, there's a patch on the forum that fixes the errors.
17:20 * epsy was talking about local user accounts
17:21 <wrtlprnft> epsy: you need to set those up
17:21 <z-man> yay for pointless nitpick wars
17:21 <epsy> :þ
17:21 <wrtlprnft> ;-)
17:22 <StickyNoob> surely that should be nit-pick
17:22 <wrtlprnft> like picking a knitter?
17:24 <epsy> wrtlprnft, eddiefantastic: emails or no confirm mails?
17:27 <wrtlprnft> can't hurt.
17:29 <wrtlprnft> you can generate an e-mail address to reach me under by taking my IRC nickname, appending the character with the ASCII number 64, appending my nick again, a dot and the TLD of Germany
17:29 <wrtlprnft> let's see you spambots crack this address :-P
17:29 <epsy> i am not quite sure, do you mean this:
17:29 <epsy> :P
17:30 <wrtlprnft> yeah, that's correct.
17:31 * luke-jr_ suggests if armathentication is config-disabled, restore the old admin_pass
17:31 <spidey> GED Score - 548
17:31 <spidey> writing - 480
17:31 <spidey> social studies - 550
17:31 <spidey> science - 590
17:31 <spidey> reading - 600
17:31 <spidey> math - 520
17:31 <spidey> ;D
17:31 <spidey> 600 is as high as you can get
17:32 <epsy> wrtlprnft, your website hurts X_x
17:32 * epsy guesses wrtlprnft.ath.cx is a cleaner remake of it :þ
17:33 <wrtlprnft> it was modern when it was made
17:33 <epsy> that's what i guessed :)
17:34 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.de/flaggen.htm is the most interesting thing hosted on it
17:36 * eddiefantastic wonders why the Welsh flah never made it :(
17:36 <eddiefantastic> *flag
17:37 <wrtlprnft> feel free to make one
17:37 <wrtlprnft> but these days I'd just use SVG
17:37 <wrtlprnft> or use the SVGs on wikipedia
17:37 <eddiefantastic> http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/politicalgifts_1990_7224289 you have a go ;)
17:37 <wrtlprnft> i know how it looks
17:38 <wrtlprnft> i only made flags that didn't have anything too complicated on them
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18:25 <epsy> K-Yo, ton email a pas marché
18:37 <flex> wrtlprnft, on the subject of shuffling up. would it solve most common arguments/issues if you were only allowed to shuffle up one position?
18:38 <flex> ofcourse you could tweak that to, say registerd and none registered
18:45 <K-Yo> epsy, key3113@yahoo.fr ?
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18:47 <jkhjkghjkg> hi
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18:47 <epsy> K-Yo, key_3113@yahoo.com
18:48 <z-man-work> flex: you could shuffle up one position at a time repeatedly.
18:48 <jkhjkghjkg> mj
18:48 <K-Yo> nan c'est .fr
18:48 <jkhjkghjkg> yay vb6 rules
18:48 <epsy> ady666, jkhjkghjkg: you could perhaps only use one client ? :)
18:48 <epsy> K-Yo, ..
18:48 <jkhjkghjkg> im testing the irc codes for the online players thing
18:48 <z-man-work> nowai! /me uses up to three at a time./
18:48 <jkhjkghjkg> i'lkl make it a multitool like _:P
18:48 <K-Yo> epsy, dsl ^^
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18:51 <epsy> envoyé
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18:53 <adutewhnub> someone say something
18:53 <flex> z-man-work, good point lol.
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18:54 <adutewhnub> #ping
18:54 <armabot> pong
18:54 <flex> but it would solve major shuffle ups from say 8 to 1, would be much more friendly if the guy goes from 8 to 1 in say 7-8 rounds.
18:54 <adutewhnub> #ping
18:54 <armabot> pong
18:55 <ady666> hm
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18:58 <adyvb6test> epsy u know some vb6 programming?
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18:59 <epsy> ady666, vb as in virtual basic?
19:01 <ady666> yes
19:01 <epsy> no
19:01 <ady666> hm
19:01 <ady666> hav u checkd the weird app i ve uploaded?
19:02 <epsy> i don't have windows
19:02 <ady666> :(
19:02 <epsy> and since vb isn't working on anything else than windows, i'd wonder why i'd be using it
19:02 <ady666> well im trying to add an option to connect to this chatroom and chat here from the app,apart of having the armabell plugins,online players and i will have to do the server browser but that'd be a headache coz the data is so,so unformatted..
19:03 <ady666> armabell did work on unix?
19:03 <epsy> armabell was a windows app
19:03 <ady666> same as this then :(
19:03 <ady666> well but the codes are there so anyone can 'translate it'
19:03 * epsy wonders if it's possible to get XQF to work with arma
19:03 <ady666> sure u re 15?
19:04 <epsy> ady666, port it you mean?
19:04 <ady666> yeah
19:04 <ady666> its just changing statements' format
19:05 <epsy> ady666, so what you want is an irc client with a bundled server browser?
19:05 <ady666> no.
19:05 <epsy> ady666, that would be easy in a 10 lines long file
19:06 <ady666> i want to make an app,which shows the list of online players, of online servers, irc to here and armabell plugins,basically
19:06 <ady666> and with it you can search players or buddys,prbbaly,it gives me some errors for now
19:06 <epsy> so you want such a 'quickstart' app for arma?
19:06 <ady666> kind of
19:07 <ady666> any idea on how to get the servers&players on it formatted to normal text,not using a php?
19:07 <ady666> im using this http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/parseserverxml.php
19:07 <epsy> parse it with an xml parser?
19:07 <epsy> i think the should be one with vb
19:07 <epsy> there*
19:08 * ady666 never worked with xml
19:08 <ady666> :S
19:08 <epsy> ady666, did you ever do DOM/javascript ?
19:08 <ady666> i did java
19:08 <epsy> or ECMAScript, whatever :)
19:08 <epsy> java or javascript
19:08 <ady666> java,php
19:09 <epsy> so you never did stuff with DOM?
19:09 <ady666> nope
19:10 <ady666> thats why its kindof hard to make this serverlist stuff
19:10 <ady666> ;)
19:10 <epsy> well, try reading from wrtl's list.js
19:10 <ady666> i could simply use a web applet to show x's server browser or any,but if it goes offline,what
19:10 <epsy> normally, and i say normally, the method names should be the same
19:11 <epsy> because they are defined in the DOM standart
19:11 <epsy> try to look on msdn, they should have some ref about how to use XML in VB
19:13 <ady666> duh,thats like chinese to me, ive looked at it before
19:14 <ady666> and as i get the website body into a textbox, i need to reformat it to get rid if the gt;,lt; etc, so itloses practically all
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19:25 <armabot> pong
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21:48 <z-man> wrtlprnft: you know that "don't look at this" is about the only thing that forces me to look at a patch? :)
21:49 <wrtlprnft> x_X
21:49 <deja_vu> xD
21:50 <wrtlprnft> that's why I added the “if you do” clause
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21:55 <wrtlprnft> i hate you armabot!
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22:39 <z-man> Yeah, she misses all the important patches.
22:50 * wrtlprnft blames it on the cia bot in #commits being too busy
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23:40 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: torres now has a -n switch for "no warnings"
23:40 <pippijn> or at least no extra ones
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23:47 <wrtlprnft> torres: {unsigned i; i < 0;}
23:47 <torres> comparison of unsigned expression < 0 is always false
23:47 <wrtlprnft> torres: -n {unsigned i; i < 0;}
23:47 <torres> Compilation and execution successful, no program output.
23:47 <wrtlprnft> ah
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• Design:
» Layout is loosely based on an old design by Durf.
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is a site that has tools, maps, and other various items. It orignally only existed as a server control panel, but I slowly began adding stuff such as a homepage and tools.
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This is an LLM-free zone. In general, I am unwilling to use (fight with) any form of "GenAI" to write code for me. So, for the forseeable future, everything on this site will continue to be written by a very silly goose (wait that's me honk honk) with some parts written by other humans as well (silly hu-mon) rather than any plausible-series-of-words token-eating machine. Even my libraries are out of date, and suddenly that's a good thing!
(Although the style has changed several times and content has been added and changed, the base of this site has barely been updated since 2015. But it Ain't Broke!)
This site is also occasionally tested with older browsers, but compatibility is not guarenteed. Although, if you have an old obscure browser and something isn't working that previously did, I guess you can tell me (nelg) about it...