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Log from 2008-03-12:
--- Day changed Wed Mar 12 2008
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00:45 <Durka_> oO
00:45 <hoop_tron> hi
00:45 <Durka_> C : P
00:46 <hoop_tron> C:þ
00:46 <spidey> bellsouth is a group of cock suckers.
00:46 <Durka_> spidey's ISP ftl
00:46 <spidey> dude
00:46 <spidey> here's what happened
00:46 <hoop_tron> ehm, did anybody ever write documentation about arma source code?
00:47 <spidey> i've been having net problems for 2 days now, so i called them, they connected and said it was because of a defunct modem
00:47 <spidey> so i order a new one, $69 that i don't have
00:47 <spidey> i get the modem this morning...same fucking problems!
00:47 <+noob7> spidey just tell em to fuck off and get a new ISP and a contract sponsored modem? :)
00:47 <spidey> they swear there's nothing wrong on their end, so i just got back from charter, we're getting a 1mb down/1mb up cable connection tomorrow
00:48 <+noob7> haha there ya go :)
00:48 <spidey> 'er
00:48 <spidey> 10mb down/1mb up
00:48 <spidey> that + the phone is about $30 cheaper than bellsouth anyways, and i had charter about 2 years before dsl, never had a problem with them
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01:17 <ghableska> #weather 50266
01:17 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 50.4°F (7:19 PM CDT on March 11, 2008). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 37.4°F. Pressure: 28.91 in 978.9 hPa (Rising).
01:18 <+noob7> spidey how much is a 10/1 mb line including phone for you?
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02:26 <spidey> noob7_away, $80
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02:32 <luke-jr_> spidey: I'd get 12/2 for that
02:33 <luke-jr_> heck, I have 12/2 for the $42/mo I pay
02:33 <luke-jr_> no clue why, it's supposed to be 7/1
02:33 <spidey> well
02:33 <spidey> 10/1 is $59/mo
02:33 <spidey> $39 for the first 6 months
02:33 <spidey> it's $80 because of the phone too
02:33 <spidey> we're changing everything over
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04:23 <v1jok3r> Hola
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04:23 <v1jok3r> Anyone on?
04:23 <v1jok3r> o.o guess not.
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06:19 <Self_Destructo> wrtlprnft: are you here?
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06:35 <Self_Destructo> wrtlprnft: you there?
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07:26 <wrtlprnft> Self_Destructo: now I am
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11:13 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r8312 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/config/settings_authentication.cfg: Add new default settings to settings_authentication.cfg
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12:29 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8313 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (language/english_base.txt src/engine/ePlayer.cpp): Shuffling no longer uses tString::toInt so it can (and does) report input errors.
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17:00 <epsy> eddiefantastic, z-man: http://xclan.armagetron.co.uk/competitions.php?c=2401
17:02 <z-man> Good to see Legit has found a partner :)
17:02 <epsy> haha :þ
17:03 <z-man> Or is that a placeholder?
17:03 <StickyNoob> what day is it on?
17:03 <epsy> there was a very few amount of players who signed up for 20:45
17:03 <epsy> z-man, no, ~ X ~ is the guy who sometimes comes here as xfroggy
17:03 <epsy> StickyNoob, the 16th
17:03 <z-man> ah.
17:04  * z-man hates it when people have different names on IRC, forum and in the game.
17:04 <StickyNoob> hmm could put myself up as a last resort partner if someones desperate
17:05 <epsy> StickyNoob, there's the 'first 5 minutes rule'
17:05 <eddiefantastic> epsy: this Sunday huh?
17:05 <epsy> eddiefantastic, yes
17:05 <eddiefantastic> Hey, I could play
17:06 <epsy> :\/
17:06 <eddiefantastic> anyone want to be my partner starting at 20:30?
17:06 <eddiefantastic> *20:45
17:07 <epsy> eddiefantastic, registration was supposed to end yesterday
17:07 <eddiefantastic> oh
17:07 <epsy> eddiefantastic, but, i got some free time
17:08 <eddiefantastic> stick me down with voodoo, he said he could play
17:08 <epsy> eddiefantastic, ¦×¦.Team.Sumo.Server, node7's or Z-man's ?
17:08 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r8314 /tools/map-preview-js/map-preview.js: make walls a polyline and not a polygon. I'm surprised I never noticed this before.
17:08 <eddiefantastic> node7?
17:09 <eddiefantastic> wrtlprnft: you want to play with me?
17:09 <epsy> noob7_away, ping
17:09 <epsy> bah, he's on his bouncer
17:09 <eddiefantastic> z-man's I guess
17:09 <eddiefantastic> who is TOK?
17:09 <epsy> no clue
17:10 <eddiefantastic> hmm, could be a bad thing. error's pretty good
17:10 <eddiefantastic> maybe I'll take x server
17:10 <epsy> kk
17:10 <eddiefantastic> what's happening with server admins this time?
17:11 <epsy> do you have someone to delegate the admin of your server or..?
17:11 <wrtlprnft> eddiefantastic: play where?
17:11 <wrtlprnft> #lastseen ed
17:11 <armabot> wrtlprnft: EDU seems to be on Norm's Place right now.
17:11 <eddiefantastic> in the tst on sun
17:11 <wrtlprnft> ooh
17:11 <wrtlprnft> sure!
17:11 <eddiefantastic> http://xclan.armagetron.co.uk/competitions.php?c=2401
17:12 <eddiefantastic> in z-mans server at 20:45 ok?
17:12 <eddiefantastic> sry, x swerver
17:12 <epsy> basically you could admin your serv at 20:00, then jump in ¦×¦.Serv to play, while delegating admin to someone else
17:12 <eddiefantastic> I'm not around at 20:00, those kids of mine still want stories
17:12 <wrtlprnft> ah
17:13 <wrtlprnft> sure, why not?
17:13 <epsy> eddiefantastic: oh, ok, do you have a server admin other than you then?
17:13 <eddiefantastic> epsy: you are playing on mine at 20:00, you want it?
17:14 <epsy> ok, i could do that
17:15 <eddiefantastic> epsy if you win round 1 you are still there, if you lose can you admin it instead?
17:16 <epsy> right, i can do that
17:16 <eddiefantastic> thx
17:16  * wrtlprnft can always admin ¦x¦
17:17  * epsy is thinking about some kind of USER_LEVEL_WILDTOKEN *@tststaff
17:18 <wrtlprnft> WILDTOKEN doesn't exist yet, right?
17:18 <epsy> wrtlprnft, ah, next time you have to convert it from fort/sumo or vice versa, just include fort.cfg or sumo.cfg
17:18 <epsy> no
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17:18 <eddiefantastic> what's the procedure to set up an armathenticating server?
17:19 <epsy> --enable-armathentication at ./configure time will do it on a recent 0.2.8
17:19 <wrtlprnft> and GLOBAL_ID 1
17:19 <z-man> Yep. You should also get and install ZThread before that, so logins can be immediate.
17:19 <epsy> wrtlprnft, <lukemode>armathentication still works without it</lukemode>
17:20 <wrtlprnft> epsy: armathentication doesn't do anything if you don't change *some* setting from its default
17:20 <wrtlprnft> it just leaves your server crippled because ADMIN_PASS will cease to exist
17:20 <z-man> If you're on a GCC 4.X system, there's a patch on the forum that fixes the errors.
17:20  * epsy was talking about local user accounts
17:21 <wrtlprnft> epsy: you need to set those up
17:21 <z-man> yay for pointless nitpick wars
17:21 <epsy> :þ
17:21 <wrtlprnft> ;-)
17:22 <StickyNoob> surely that should be nit-pick
17:22 <wrtlprnft> like picking a knitter?
17:24 <epsy> wrtlprnft, eddiefantastic: emails or no confirm mails?
17:27 <wrtlprnft> can't hurt.
17:29 <wrtlprnft> you can generate an e-mail address to reach me under by taking my IRC nickname, appending the character with the ASCII number 64, appending my nick again, a dot and the TLD of Germany
17:29 <wrtlprnft> let's see you spambots crack this address :-P
17:29 <epsy> i am not quite sure, do you mean this:
17:29 <epsy> :P
17:30 <wrtlprnft> yeah, that's correct.
17:31  * luke-jr_ suggests if armathentication is config-disabled, restore the old admin_pass
17:31 <spidey> GED Score - 548
17:31 <spidey> writing - 480
17:31 <spidey> social studies - 550
17:31 <spidey> science - 590
17:31 <spidey> reading - 600
17:31 <spidey> math - 520
17:31 <spidey> ;D
17:31 <spidey> 600 is as high as you can get
17:32 <epsy> wrtlprnft, your website hurts X_x
17:32  * epsy guesses wrtlprnft.ath.cx is a cleaner remake of it :þ
17:33 <wrtlprnft> it was modern when it was made
17:33 <epsy> that's what i guessed :)
17:34 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.de/flaggen.htm is the most interesting thing hosted on it
17:36  * eddiefantastic wonders why the Welsh flah never made it :(
17:36 <eddiefantastic> *flag
17:37 <wrtlprnft> feel free to make one
17:37 <wrtlprnft> but these days I'd just use SVG
17:37 <wrtlprnft> or use the SVGs on wikipedia
17:37 <eddiefantastic> http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/politicalgifts_1990_7224289 you have a go ;)
17:37 <wrtlprnft> i know how it looks
17:38 <wrtlprnft> i only made flags that didn't have anything too complicated on them
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18:25 <epsy> K-Yo, ton email a pas marché
18:37 <flex> wrtlprnft, on the subject of shuffling up. would it solve most common arguments/issues if you were only allowed to shuffle up one position?
18:38 <flex> ofcourse you could tweak that to, say registerd and none registered
18:45 <K-Yo> epsy, key3113@yahoo.fr ?
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18:47 <jkhjkghjkg> hi
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18:47 <epsy> K-Yo, key_3113@yahoo.com
18:48 <z-man-work> flex: you could shuffle up one position at a time repeatedly.
18:48 <jkhjkghjkg> mj
18:48 <K-Yo> nan c'est .fr
18:48 <jkhjkghjkg> yay vb6 rules
18:48 <epsy> ady666, jkhjkghjkg: you could perhaps only use one client ? :)
18:48 <epsy> K-Yo, ..
18:48 <jkhjkghjkg> im testing the irc codes for the online players thing
18:48 <z-man-work> nowai! /me uses up to three at a time./
18:48 <jkhjkghjkg> i'lkl make it a multitool like _:P
18:48 <K-Yo> epsy, dsl ^^
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18:51 <epsy> envoyé
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18:53 <adutewhnub> someone say something
18:53 <flex> z-man-work, good point lol.
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18:54 <adutewhnub> #ping
18:54 <armabot> pong
18:54 <flex> but it would solve major shuffle ups from say 8 to 1, would be much more friendly if the guy goes from 8 to 1 in say 7-8 rounds.
18:54 <adutewhnub> #ping
18:54 <armabot> pong
18:55 <ady666> hm
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18:58 <adyvb6test> epsy u know some vb6 programming?
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18:59 <epsy> ady666, vb as in virtual basic?
19:01 <ady666> yes
19:01 <epsy> no
19:01 <ady666> hm
19:01 <ady666> hav u checkd the weird app i ve uploaded?
19:02 <epsy> i don't have windows
19:02 <ady666> :(
19:02 <epsy> and since vb isn't working on anything else than windows, i'd wonder why i'd be using it
19:02 <ady666> well im trying to add an option to connect to this chatroom and chat here from the app,apart of having the armabell plugins,online players and i will have to do the server browser but that'd be a headache coz the data is so,so unformatted..
19:03 <ady666> armabell did work on unix?
19:03 <epsy> armabell was a windows app
19:03 <ady666> same as this then :(
19:03 <ady666> well but the codes are there so anyone can 'translate it'
19:03  * epsy wonders if it's possible to get XQF to work with arma
19:03 <ady666> sure u re 15?
19:04 <epsy> ady666, port it you mean?
19:04 <ady666> yeah
19:04 <ady666> its just changing statements' format
19:05 <epsy> ady666, so what you want is an irc client with a bundled server browser?
19:05 <ady666> no.
19:05 <epsy> ady666, that would be easy in a 10 lines long file
19:06 <ady666> i want to make an app,which shows the list of online players, of online servers, irc to here and armabell plugins,basically
19:06 <ady666> and with it you can search players or buddys,prbbaly,it gives me some errors for now
19:06 <epsy> so you want such a 'quickstart' app for arma?
19:06 <ady666> kind of
19:07 <ady666> any idea on how to get the servers&players on it formatted to normal text,not using a php?
19:07 <ady666> im using this http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/parseserverxml.php
19:07 <epsy> parse it with an xml parser?
19:07 <epsy> i think the should be one with vb
19:07 <epsy> there*
19:08  * ady666 never worked with xml
19:08 <ady666> :S
19:08 <epsy> ady666, did you ever do DOM/javascript ?
19:08 <ady666> i did java
19:08 <epsy> or ECMAScript, whatever :)
19:08 <epsy> java or javascript
19:08 <ady666> java,php
19:09 <epsy> so you never did stuff with DOM?
19:09 <ady666> nope
19:10 <ady666> thats why its kindof hard to make this serverlist stuff
19:10 <ady666> ;)
19:10 <epsy> well, try reading from wrtl's list.js
19:10 <ady666> i could simply use a web applet to show x's server browser or any,but if it goes offline,what
19:10 <epsy> normally, and i say normally, the method names should be the same
19:11 <epsy> because they are defined in the DOM standart
19:11 <epsy> try to look on msdn, they should have some ref about how to use XML in VB
19:13 <ady666> duh,thats like chinese to me, ive looked at it before
19:14 <ady666> and as i get the website body into a textbox, i need to reformat it to get rid if the gt;,lt; etc, so itloses practically all
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19:25 <armabot> pong
19:26 <poop> #ping
19:26 <armabot> pong
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19:37 <armabot> pong
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21:48 <z-man> wrtlprnft: you know that "don't look at this" is about the only thing that forces me to look at a patch? :)
21:49 <wrtlprnft> x_X
21:49 <deja_vu> xD
21:50 <wrtlprnft> that's why I added the “if you do” clause
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21:55 <wrtlprnft> i hate you armabot!
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22:39 <z-man> Yeah, she misses all the important patches.
22:50  * wrtlprnft blames it on the cia bot in #commits being too busy
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23:40 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: torres now has a -n switch for "no warnings"
23:40 <pippijn> or at least no extra ones
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23:47 <wrtlprnft> torres: {unsigned i; i < 0;}
23:47 <torres> comparison of unsigned expression < 0 is always false
23:47 <wrtlprnft> torres: -n {unsigned i; i < 0;}
23:47 <torres> Compilation and execution successful, no program output.
23:47 <wrtlprnft> ah

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