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00:06 <GodTodd> damn...i just can't get projectile motion today :/
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00:49 <spidey> rofl
00:49 <spidey> kbattleship ftw!
00:54 <DrJoeTron> #serverinfo Shrunk
00:54 <armabot> DrJoeTron: Shrunkland in 2.8.2: No online players.
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01:03 <ghableska> stupid power outage
01:03 <ghableska> #weather 50266
01:03 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 73.6°F (6:04 PM CDT on September 21, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 55.4°F. Pressure: 28.85 in 976.9 hPa (Rising).
01:04 <Vanhayes> #weather siant john
01:04 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
01:04 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
01:04 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 64°F / 18°C | Humidity: 59% | Pressure: 30.17in / 1022hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h | Updated: 7:00 PM ADT; Tonight - A few clouds. Fog patches spreading inland this evening. Wind southwest 20 km/h (12 mph) becoming light this evening. Low 7C(45F).; Friday - Sunny with cloudy periods. Fog patches dissipating in the morning. (1 more message)
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01:27 <beta_USA> hi again
01:36 <spidey> hey
01:36 <spidey> anyone wanna play monoply?
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01:40  * beta_USA sometimes
01:40 <spidey> yes,no,yes,no? :P
01:41 <spidey> me and someone else are playing it on atlantik
01:41 <spidey> well, was
01:41 <spidey> nvm :P
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02:06 <Durka> beta_USA: ß ≠ ϐ ;)
02:06 <Durka> o_O
02:09 <luke-jr> $5 shipped a good price for a 3' USB cable?
02:09 <Durka> boo! ^^
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02:32 <beta_USA> I know
02:32 <beta_USA> i choose ß but everybody keeps calling me beta...
02:33 <beta_USA> cause they can't write it.
02:33 <beta_USA> And they probably don't speak german.
02:33 <beta_USA> oops he left
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02:38 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: ping
02:38 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: heh, atlantik :)
02:39 <Lucifer_arma> I've got a monopd server running
02:47 <Vanhayes> spidey: monoply sounds good to me
02:48 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: pong
02:49 <Lucifer_arma> still having trouble with projectile motion?
02:49 <GodTodd> yes :(
02:49 <Lucifer_arma> heh
02:49 <Lucifer_arma> the formulas in physics don't make sense to me
02:49 <GodTodd> same here
02:49 <Lucifer_arma> have you done anything with vector-valued functions?
02:49 <GodTodd> and it's fucking with my head
02:49 <GodTodd> no
02:50 <Lucifer_arma> I've got a way to do projectile motion that uses vector-valued functions, but if you understand vectors and you understand functions, you could pick it up pretty easily
02:50 <Lucifer_arma> learned it in calc 3, and have gotten every projectile motion problem right since then :)
02:50 <Lucifer_arma> want it?
02:50 <GodTodd> sure
02:51 <Lucifer_arma> ok.  You know that velocity is the derivative of position, and acceleration is the derivative of velocity, right?
02:51 <GodTodd> right
02:51 <Lucifer_arma> so the idea is to assemble position, velocity, and acceleration functions
02:51 <Lucifer_arma> ok, so give me a problem :)
02:52 <GodTodd> In 1939 or 1940, Emanuel Zacchini took his human-cannonball act to an extreme: After being shot from a cannon, he soared over three Ferris wheels and into a net (Fig. 4-42). (a) Treating him as a particle, calculate his clearance over the first wheel. (b) If he reached maximum height over the middle wheel, by how much did he clear it? (c) How far from the cannon should the net's center have been positioned (neglect air
02:52 <GodTodd> drag)?
02:52 <GodTodd> v0=26.5 m/s
02:52 <GodTodd> theta0=53 deg
02:52 <GodTodd> wheel height is 18 m
02:52 <Lucifer_arma> so he's shot from the cannon at 26.5 m/s at 53 degrees?
02:53 <GodTodd> right
02:53 <GodTodd> 3 m off the ground
02:53 <Lucifer_arma> I take it that 3 meters is important?
02:53 <GodTodd> have to find the clearances
02:53 <GodTodd> so yeah
02:53 <Lucifer_arma> well, once you have the functions, everything else falls in place, the problem does itself
02:53 <Lucifer_arma> so place your origin under the cannon, but at ground level
02:54 <GodTodd> k
02:54 <Lucifer_arma> so the cannon is at 0,0
02:54 <Lucifer_arma> so his initial position would be 0,3
02:54 <GodTodd> right
02:54 <Lucifer_arma> make that a vector and put it off to the side
02:54 <Lucifer_arma> <0,3>
02:54 <Lucifer_arma> his initial velocity vector is < 26.5cos(53), 26.5sin(53) >
02:54 <Lucifer_arma> right?
02:55 <GodTodd> right
02:55 <Lucifer_arma> now forces.  There's only one force, which is gravity, right?  No other forces?  (the problem said to neglect air drag and stuff)
02:56 <Lucifer_arma> so his acceleration function a is a(t) = < 0, -9.81 >
02:56 <GodTodd> right
02:56 <Lucifer_arma> now we integrate up
02:56 <Lucifer_arma> integrating a(t) we get v(t) = < 0, -9.81t + C >
02:56 <Lucifer_arma> right?
02:57 <GodTodd> right
02:57 <Lucifer_arma> that C is determined by initial conditions, which we just wrote out in vectors.  So we add this v(t) to the initial conditions and get a velocity function
02:57 <Lucifer_arma> v(t) = < 26.5cos(53), -9.81t + 26.5sin(53) >
02:57 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, did you punch those trig terms into your calculator yet?
02:58 <GodTodd> not yet
02:58 <Lucifer_arma> here goes, I'll do some rounding for clarity
02:58 <Lucifer_arma> v(t) = < 15.9, -9.81t + 21.2 >
02:59 <Lucifer_arma> you'll probably need more decimal places when you work with them, but this should be easy to read
02:59 <Lucifer_arma> so now we want position, so we do the same thing.  At this point you'll start seeing the projectile motion formulas you covered jus magically appear
02:59 <Lucifer_arma> so integrate velocity and you get:
02:59 <Gursikh> 42!
02:59 <Lucifer_arma> p(t) = < 15.9t, -4.9t^2 + 21.2t + C >
03:00 <Lucifer_arma> oops
03:00 <Lucifer_arma> p(t) = < 15.9t + C1, -4.9t^2 + 21.2t + C2 >
03:00 <Lucifer_arma> there
03:00 <Lucifer_arma> forgot a stupid constant
03:00 <Lucifer_arma> to fill in the position function, obviously we go back to initial conditions, which we wrote as the vector < 0, 3>
03:01 <Lucifer_arma> so his position function has to be p(t) = < 15.9t, -4.9t^2 + 21.2t + 3 >
03:01 <GodTodd> k
03:02 <Lucifer_arma> so, clearance from the first wheel.  I assume we're given a distance for the first wheel from the cannon?
03:02 <GodTodd> 23 m
03:02 <Lucifer_arma> so we first ask ourself "At what time (t) will his x coordinate be 23 m?"
03:02 <GodTodd> right
03:03 <Lucifer_arma> take the x component of his position vector, set it equal to 23, and solve for t :)
03:03 <Lucifer_arma> so, 15.9t = 23
03:03 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 23/15.9
03:03 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 1.4465408805
03:03 <GodTodd> yeah...i had that time at one point
03:03 <Lucifer_arma> that's seconds of course
03:03 <GodTodd> right
03:03 <Lucifer_arma> so now we want his height at that time
03:04 <Lucifer_arma> find the y component for p(1.44)
03:05 <GodTodd> 23.44?
03:05 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc -4.9 * (1.44**2) + 21.2*1.44 + 3
03:05 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 23.36736
03:05 <Lucifer_arma> sure.  Presumably you're using more decimal places than I am?  ;)
03:05 <GodTodd> i rounded to 1.45 s
03:05 <GodTodd> ;)
03:06 <Lucifer_arma> wheel's 18m high, finding his clearance should be obvious now :)
03:06 <GodTodd> yeah...i can ignore the 3m high starting point because it's already figured in, right?
03:06 <Lucifer_arma> exaclty, yes
03:06 <Lucifer_arma> that's one of the advantages to doing it this way :)
03:07 <Lucifer_arma> that was why I was talking about origin at the beginning, now we can ignore everything else and just chug numbers
03:07 <GodTodd> ok...so now finding max height...
03:07 <Lucifer_arma> so part b is basically what's the difference between max height and the wheel
03:07 <GodTodd> right
03:07 <Lucifer_arma> well, what do you know from calc 1 about the maximum value of a function relative to the value of its derivative?
03:07 <Lucifer_arma> (come on, I fed you the answer to that, really ;)  )
03:08 <GodTodd> i don't remember...been a long day :/
03:08 <GodTodd> heh
03:08 <Lucifer_arma> awww
03:08 <Lucifer_arma> what's the slope of the line tangent to the maximum value of a function?
03:08 <Lucifer_arma> any function, doesn't matter
03:08 <GodTodd> the derivative
03:08 <GodTodd> er
03:08 <GodTodd> 0
03:09 <Lucifer_arma> yes, but what... :)
03:09 <GodTodd> 0
03:09 <Lucifer_arma> so if you want his max height, you want to know where the derivative of some function = 0
03:09 <Lucifer_arma> that function is obviously the y component of his position function
03:09 <GodTodd> right
03:09 <GodTodd> so set that equal to 0
03:09 <Lucifer_arma> so where is the y component of his velocity = 0?
03:09 <Lucifer_arma> right.  Then take the t that you get and plug it into position to get his height :)
03:10 <Lucifer_arma> does it give dimensions for the net?
03:10 <Lucifer_arma> spring constant?  anything?
03:10 <Gursikh> 0 is the best number ever
03:10 <GodTodd> no
03:10 <GodTodd> just that it's 3m high...but that's negated by dude starting 3m high :)
03:10 <Lucifer_arma> what does the drawing say about the net?  Part C is obviously a range question
03:11 <GodTodd> just that it's 3m high...but that's negated by dude starting 3m high :)
03:11 <Lucifer_arma> ah, so we're just supposed to place the net at < x, 3 > and make sure the guy lands on it?
03:11 <GodTodd> yep
03:11 <Lucifer_arma> easy enough.  We know what y value we want for the position of the net, we can set the y component of his position function to get the t for it
03:11 <Lucifer_arma> plug that into the x component and you're done
03:12 <Lucifer_arma> follow?
03:13 <GodTodd> hrmm
03:15 <Lucifer_arma> the obvious problem with this problem is that the guy is just going to bounce off the net, and keep going, since it doesn't sound like the net is going to oppose his x motion
03:16 <Lucifer_arma> sooo, were the answers right?
03:17  * Lucifer_arma recalls that we rounded a lot and could have drifted outside the +- threshold the web app wants for answers
03:19 <GodTodd> it says i'm wrong
03:19 <GodTodd> its +- 3%
03:19 <GodTodd> it's a decent range
03:20 <Lucifer_arma> v(t) = < 26.5cos(53), -9.81t + 26.5sin(53) >
03:21 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 26.5 * cos( 53 * math.pi/180 )
03:21 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: 'math' is not a defined function.
03:21 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 26.5 * cos( 53 * pi/180 )
03:21 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 15.9480981135
03:21 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 26.5 * sin( 53 * pi/180 )
03:21 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 21.1638410163
03:21 <Lucifer_arma> is there a specific g they want you to use?
03:21 <GodTodd> just 9.8
03:22 <GodTodd> i use 9.8 or 9.81 depending on modd
03:22 <GodTodd> mood
03:22 <Lucifer_arma> I use 9.81 all the time, even when the teacher says to round it up to 10
03:22 <Lucifer_arma> he can suck my left nipple if he wants me to round it up to 10
03:23 <GodTodd> yeah...to me 10 != g
03:23 <GodTodd> it just doesn't even look right
03:23 <GodTodd> anywho...i'm not sure where i went wrong on this problem
03:23 <Lucifer_arma> that 53 degrees is the acute angle from the cannon to the horizontal, right?
03:24 <GodTodd> yep
03:24 <Lucifer_arma> it's not in some weird place?
03:24 <GodTodd> nope
03:25 <Lucifer_arma> v(t) = < 15.9480981135, -9.81t + 21.1638410163 >
03:26 <GodTodd> right
03:26 <Lucifer_arma> p(t) = < 15.9480981135 t, -4.905t^2 + 21.1638410163t + 3 >
03:26 <GodTodd> right
03:27 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 23/15.9480981135
03:27 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 1.44217823569
03:27 <Lucifer_arma> that's about what I had before, right?
03:27 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc -4.905 * (1.44217823569**2) + 21.1638410163*1.44217823569 + 3
03:28 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 23.3202289959
03:28 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 23.3202289959 - 18
03:28 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 5.3202289959
03:28 <Lucifer_arma> that's my answer for part a
03:28 <GodTodd> mine was 5.44 and it says wrong
03:28 <Lucifer_arma> does it tell you which part has a wrong answer, or does it just say the whole answer's wrong?
03:29 <GodTodd> doesn't break it down
03:29 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 5.44/5.3202289959
03:29 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 1.0225123776
03:29 <Lucifer_arma> er, oope
03:29 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc (5.44 - 5.3202289959) / 5.3202289959
03:29 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 0.0225123776049
03:29 <GodTodd> that's 2.25%
03:29 <Lucifer_arma> 2.25 %, assuming my answer is correct
03:29 <GodTodd> right
03:30 <Lucifer_arma> ok, part b then :)
03:30 <Lucifer_arma> we're either both right within tolerances, or both wrong in part a :)
03:30 <GodTodd> yep
03:30 <Lucifer_arma> part b is max height, right?
03:30 <GodTodd> i got 7.86 for b
03:30 <GodTodd> max height - 18
03:30 <GodTodd> yeah
03:30 <Lucifer_arma> -9.81t + 21.1638410163 = 0
03:31 <Lucifer_arma> so t = 21.1638410163 / 9.81
03:31 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 21.1638410163 / 9.81
03:31 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 2.15737421165
03:31 <Lucifer_arma> the center wheel is still 18 meter tall?
03:32 <GodTodd> yep
03:32 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc -4.905 * (2.15737421165**2) + 21.1638410163*2.15737421165 + 3
03:32 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 25.829162414
03:32 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc -4.905 * (2.15737421165**2) + 21.1638410163*2.15737421165 + 3 - 18
03:32 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 7.82916241403
03:32 <Lucifer_arma> ok, that's my answer for part b
03:32 <Lucifer_arma> what did you get?
03:32 <GodTodd> i got 7.86 for b
03:33 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc *7.86 - 7.82916241403) / 7.82916241403 * 100
03:33 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: invalid syntax (line 1)
03:33 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc (7.86 - 7.82916241403) / 7.82916241403 * 100
03:33 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 0.393881035278
03:33 <Lucifer_arma> damn close together (note I multiplied by 100 this time)
03:33 <GodTodd> yep
03:33 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc ( (7.86 - 7.82916241403) / 7.82916241403) * 100
03:33 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 0.393881035278
03:33 <GodTodd> .4%
03:33 <GodTodd> heh
03:33 <Lucifer_arma> just making sure I didn't screw up order of operations :)
03:34 <Lucifer_arma> part c then :)
03:34 <Lucifer_arma> p(t) = < 15.9480981135 t, -4.905t^2 + 21.1638410163t + 3 >
03:34 <Lucifer_arma>  v(t) = < 15.9480981135, -9.81t + 21.1638410163 >
03:34 <Lucifer_arma> tired of scrolling up :)
03:34 <Lucifer_arma> we want <x,3> here, iirc
03:34 <GodTodd> -4.905t^2 + 21.1638410163t + 3 =3
03:35 <Lucifer_arma> quadratic formula :)
03:35  * Lucifer_arma goes to use maxima for this one
03:35 <GodTodd> can't you just factor t out?
03:35 <GodTodd> since it's going to give you beginning and end times?
03:36 <GodTodd> t(-4.905t + 21.1638410163) = 0
03:36 <Lucifer_arma> yep
03:36 <Lucifer_arma> -4.905t^2 + 21.1638410163t + 3 =3
03:36 <Lucifer_arma> oops
03:36 <Lucifer_arma> can't copy and paste from maxima?
03:36 <Lucifer_arma> [t=4.314748420589578,t=0.0]
03:36 <Lucifer_arma> there, that's the solution set maxima gave me
03:36 <Lucifer_arma> so I'm lazy, sue me :)
03:36 <GodTodd> right
03:37 <GodTodd> then you plug the end time into the p(t)
03:37 <GodTodd> the x part
03:37 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 15.9480981135 * 4.314748420589578
03:37 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 68.8120311466
03:37 <GodTodd> i got 68.8
03:37 <Lucifer_arma> I wont' bother doing percent difference on this one, numbers are too high for it to matter
03:38 <GodTodd> right
03:38 <Lucifer_arma> when you get under 10, though, a few decimal places makes a huge difference.  :(
03:38 <GodTodd> are those your final answer? ;)
03:38 <Lucifer_arma> I had a problem that was right to 4 decimal places, but it was like 0.0125 or something
03:38 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, that's my final answer for C
03:38 <Lucifer_arma> is it wrong?  :)
03:39 <Lucifer_arma> (it'll be a first in about a year if it is :(  )
03:39 <GodTodd> yep
03:39 <GodTodd> it says it is
03:39 <GodTodd> i don't know if i trust this system tho
03:39 <GodTodd> heh
03:41 <Lucifer_arma> well, maybe I am wrong, but I'm confidently wrong
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03:41 <GodTodd> heh
03:41 <Lucifer_arma> maybe there's something I missed in the problem?  Where's the third net placed at?
03:41 <Lucifer_arma> does it say, or are we safe to ignore it like we have?
03:41 <GodTodd> it only mentioned one net
03:42 <Lucifer_arma> ?
03:42 <GodTodd> 3 wheels but it only cared about the first two
03:42 <Lucifer_arma> wheel, I mean
03:42 <Lucifer_arma> three ferris wheels
03:42 <GodTodd> on to uniform circular motion
03:42 <Lucifer_arma> so the diagram doesn't say where the third wheel is?
03:43 <Lucifer_arma> heh. circular motion is a pain :(
03:43 <GodTodd> A purse at radius 2.10 m and a wallet at radius 3.00 m travel in uniform circular motion on the floor of a merry-go-round as the ride turns. They are on the same radial line. At one instant, the acceleration of the purse is (1.50 m/s2) + (4.50 m/s2). At that instant and in unit-vector notation, what is the acceleration of the wallet?
03:43 <Lucifer_arma> fun, when you do torques and shit
03:43 <Lucifer_arma> I'm a have to get out my textbook for this one :(
03:43  * Lucifer_arma never managed to memorize the circular motion formulas
03:44 <GodTodd> so...find the magnitude of a(p) multiply by r then sqrt(it)
03:44 <GodTodd> a=v^2/r
03:44 <GodTodd> hrmm
03:44 <GodTodd> that'd give me v(p)
03:45 <GodTodd> which should equal v(w) right?
03:45 <GodTodd> since they're on the same mgr?
03:47 <Lucifer_arma> wit a minute
03:47 <Lucifer_arma> er, *wait
03:47 <Lucifer_arma> the acceleration vector is supposed to be 1.5i + 4.5j ?
03:47 <GodTodd> yep
03:48 <Lucifer_arma> trig :)
03:49 <Lucifer_arma> er, nvm, maybe not.  This damn textbook doesn't have many formulas in it
03:49  * Lucifer_arma has 3 physics textbooks
03:50 <GodTodd> so then i get 33.075 for a(w)
03:50 <GodTodd> how do i break that into unit vector notation now?
03:52 <Lucifer_arma> seems like I missed something somewhere
03:53 <Lucifer_arma> they don't both have the same centripetal acceleration.  Does the problem give their linear velocity?
03:53 <GodTodd> no
03:53 <Lucifer_arma> er, wait a minute, you can solve for that
03:53 <Lucifer_arma> you're a few steps ahead of me, aren't you?  ;)
03:53 <GodTodd> yeah :)
03:54 <Lucifer_arma> ok, their linear velocities aren't the same either
03:54 <Lucifer_arma> items farther out on the circle move faster than items slower in, provided omega is constant, of course
03:54 <GodTodd> right
03:55 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc sqrt(1.5**2 + 4.5**2)
03:55 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 4.74341649025
03:56 <Lucifer_arma> am I on crack?  Do they have the same centripetal acceleration?
03:56 <GodTodd> no
03:56 <GodTodd> i got like 33 something for the wallet
03:56 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc sqrt(1.5**2 + 4.5**2) * 2.1
03:56 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 9.96117462953
03:56 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc sqrt(sqrt(1.5**2 + 4.5**2) * 2.1)
03:56 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 3.15613285993
03:56 <Lucifer_arma> that's my v for the purse
03:57 <Lucifer_arma> v = 2pi/T
03:57 <Lucifer_arma> er
03:57 <GodTodd> i got 9.96
03:57 <Lucifer_arma> v = 2pi r/t
03:57 <GodTodd> hrmm
03:57 <Lucifer_arma> 9.96 is v^2, isn't it?
03:58 <GodTodd> #math calc sqrt(9.96)
03:58 <armabot> GodTodd: 3.15594676761
03:58 <GodTodd> yeah
03:58 <GodTodd> if your v is right
03:58 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 2*pi/(sqrt(sqrt(1.5**2 + 4.5**2) * 2.1) )
03:58 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 1.99078606194
03:58 <GodTodd> :P
03:58 <Lucifer_arma> I got a T of that, I think
03:58 <GodTodd> i'm using a=v^2/r
03:59 <GodTodd> so v^2=ar
03:59 <Lucifer_arma> T is period, right?
03:59 <GodTodd> so v=sqrt(ar)
03:59 <GodTodd> yeah
03:59 <Lucifer_arma> ok, so I got a period of about 2 seconds
03:59 <Lucifer_arma> is that fast for a merry-go-round?
03:59 <GodTodd> yeah
03:59 <Lucifer_arma> basically what I'm doing is finding the period using information from the purse
03:59 <Lucifer_arma> the period is the same for both of them
04:00 <GodTodd> right
04:00 <Lucifer_arma> since I know both radiuses, if I find the period for one, I can determine anything about the other I damn well feel like
04:01 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 2 * pi * 3/1.99078606194
04:01 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 9.46839857979
04:01 <Lucifer_arma> that's my v for the wallet
04:01 <Lucifer_arma> which was your v for something, was it your v for the wallet?
04:01 <GodTodd> 33.075
04:01 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmm
04:01 <GodTodd> that's my v(w)
04:02 <GodTodd> er
04:02 <GodTodd> no
04:02 <Lucifer_arma> it's possible I screwed up in a big way along the way
04:02 <GodTodd> that's my a(w)
04:02 <Lucifer_arma> ah, I'm almost there :)
04:02 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc ( (2 * pi * 3/1.99078606194)**2) / 3
04:02 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 29.8835238886
04:02 <Lucifer_arma> heh
04:02 <GodTodd> i got 9.96 for v
04:02 <Lucifer_arma> my a is a bit different
04:02 <Lucifer_arma> ok, our v's are close
04:03 <Lucifer_arma> our a's are probably off by rounding errors, unless I really screwed up
04:03 <Lucifer_arma> so, next thing is to put it in unit vector notation
04:03 <GodTodd> or unless i'm really screwed up ;)
04:03 <GodTodd> right
04:03 <Lucifer_arma> what you have is a magnitude
04:03 <luke-jr> stfu Lucifer_arma and GodTodd
04:03 <GodTodd> that's where i'm at
04:03 <luke-jr> you're making my #arma tab red ☺
04:04 <Lucifer_arma> to put it in unit vector notation, you have to break it into components, which means finding the angle of the original vector
04:04 <GodTodd> right
04:04 <Lucifer_arma> 1.5i + 4.5j
04:04 <Lucifer_arma> tangent, for sure
04:04 <Lucifer_arma> maybe
04:04 <GodTodd> yeah
04:04 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, tangent, and some visualizing
04:05 <GodTodd> arctan(y/x)
04:05 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc atan(4.5,1.5)
04:05 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
04:05 <Lucifer_arma> liar
04:05 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc atan2(4.5,1.5)
04:05 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: invalid syntax (line 1)
04:05 <Lucifer_arma> liar
04:05 <GodTodd> 71.57
04:05 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc atan(4.5/1.5)
04:05 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 1.2490457724
04:05 <Lucifer_arma> heh, mine's in radians
04:05 <Lucifer_arma> not that it matters or anything
04:06 <GodTodd> #math calc atan(4.5/1.5)*(pi/180)
04:06 <armabot> GodTodd: 0.0217999612365
04:06 <Lucifer_arma> #match calc 29.8835238886*cos(atan(4.5/1.5))
04:06 <GodTodd> er
04:06 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 29.8835238886*cos(atan(4.5/1.5))
04:06 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 9.45
04:06 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 29.8835238886*sin(atan(4.5/1.5))
04:06 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 28.35
04:06 <Lucifer_arma> 9.45i + 28.35j  <----- that's my answer
04:07 <Lucifer_arma> I think you wanted 180/pi :)
04:07 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc atan(4.5/1.5)*(180/pi)
04:07 <GodTodd> yeah :P
04:07 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 71.5650511771
04:08 <GodTodd> 10.46i + 31.38j
04:08 <GodTodd> that's what i have
04:08 <Lucifer_arma> we did have a difference in magnitudes
04:08 <Lucifer_arma> I did a lot of simple equation solving in my head, though, which is prone to errors
04:09 <GodTodd> mine's wrong :(
04:09 <Lucifer_arma> don't waste an attempt on mine without verifying my equation solving :)
04:10 <Lucifer_arma> but the idea should be the right one.  Going through the period
04:11 <Lucifer_arma> you might try solving it symbolically and then coming up with an expression for the right answer that you can just plug in what you know
04:11 <Lucifer_arma> that was the method my physics teacher taught, and I used mostly
04:12 <Lucifer_arma> I'm a grab a smoke and then I need to write a paper for tomorrow
04:29 <Lucifer_arma> grrr, this government class is full of whacky short-sighted liberals
04:30 <Lucifer_arma> I think I earned my grade on this forum and am just going to drop out of it now and worry about the test
04:31 <Lucifer_arma> I definitely don't feel like responding to yet another half-literate liberal whose primary reason for leaving Iraq is that "it costs too much"
04:31 <Lucifer_arma> I thought that was supposed to be a conservative argument...
04:39 <Gursikh> lucky you
04:40 <Gursikh> My government class is full of wacky republicans (note: conservative != republican)
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04:44 <ghableska> #weather 50266
04:44 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 66.7°F (9:43 PM CDT on September 21, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 48.2°F. Pressure: 28.98 in 981.3 hPa (Rising).
04:44 <ghableska> #armaservers
04:44 <armabot> ghableska: This data is 41 seconds old; Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (10/10), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (9/14), ¬| D u r k a  D u r k a  L an d | ¬ (7/16), Nexus9 (no rubber) (5/16), Norm's Place (5/12), "USA CLAN" European CAPTURE THE FLAG server (4/12), ~:P1|People's Legion ·SealBar· (3/16), Swampland II (3/10), >3D> Eternal Destiny Clan Server ~{DF}~ (1 more message)
04:44 <ghableska> #serverinfo =Capture
04:44 <armabot> ghableska: Wild West  =Capture The Flag=: Players (10/10): $t3alth, -=USM=- St Alph, <<freakful1>>, Irishwrath, ota|mbc|, Rising Flame, serpent{USA}, waffles, |SK ELITE| /, ~*~Teammate~101
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05:00 <Lucifer_arma> Gursikh: well, it's distance learning, so it's not like I have to deal with them in class or anything
05:03 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, so the largest greyhound bus is 55 seats
05:04 <Lucifer_arma> # and achieves 162 passenger miles per gallon of fuel.
05:04 <Lucifer_arma> deciphering that looks like doing this:
05:04 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 162/55
05:04 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 2.94545454545
05:04 <Lucifer_arma> so about 3 miles per gallon
05:16 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 20000000.0/55.0
05:16 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 363636.363636
05:21 <Gursikh> lucky you
05:21 <Gursikh> I have to sit in class with them
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05:36 <Lucifer_arma> so, it would take about 300000 greyhound busses to transport 20 million people
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> unfortunately, they only have 1250 busses
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 300000/1250.0
05:40 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 240
05:40 <luke-jr> 3 MPG sucks
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> so it'll take 240 trips for the entire fleet
05:40 <luke-jr> I think
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> assuming they stop servicing the rest of the country in the meantime, of course
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06:13 <Durka> \o
06:27 <Lucifer_arma>  /o
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06:28 <MrBougo> morning
06:28 <MrBougo> or evening
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> man, I hate writing the first sentence of a paper
06:45 <MrBougo> so do i
06:45 <MrBougo> you feel like it's going to change everything
06:45 <MrBougo> you hesitate about it for like... 10 minutes
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> then just start it on the second paragraph and write the first one when you're done?
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> (that's what I'm doing)
06:46 <Gursikh> no, start with the thesis sentance
06:46 <Gursikh> then write the rest
06:46 <MrBougo> oh no i never do that
06:46 <Gursikh> then go back and write teh intro
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> heh
06:46 <MrBougo> heh, wirting a text in a non-linear way
06:47 <MrBougo> funny
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> it's a "discuss these characters" paper
06:47 <MrBougo> never thought about that
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> only kind of thesis statement I'm coming up with is so bad, I'd rather write a paper without one than have the one I've got
06:48 <MrBougo> ew
06:52 <MrBougo> rofl
06:52 <MrBougo> these guys who see backmasking everywhere
06:52 <MrBougo> it's awesome
06:52 <MrBougo> ever heard of that stairway to heaven backmasking?
06:52 <Lucifer_arma> backmasking?
06:52 <Lucifer_arma> is that where you play the song backwards and it tells you your pants are falling down?
06:53 <MrBougo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stairway_to_Heaven#Backmasking_controversy
06:53 <MrBougo> yup Lucifer_arma :p
07:20 <tramshed> Im a ninja
07:20 <tramshed> just thought Id let you guys know.
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> then you can't be a ninja
07:22 <tramshed> im so ninja im invisible.
07:22 <Gursikh> Or maybe he said that because he's a ninja, and by telling us we would only *think* he wasn't a ninja ... therefore being a ninja?
07:22 <tramshed> ive got bags of ninja in the closet.
07:22 <tramshed>  BAGs
07:22 <GodTodd> no...that's *ganja*
07:22 <tramshed> ive got buckets of ninja on servers all over the planet.
07:23 <tramshed> BUKKITS.
07:23 <tramshed> 4chan has made me retarded.
07:23 <Lucifer_arma> no it hasn't
07:23 <Lucifer_arma> :)
07:23 <tramshed> haha
07:25 <Durka> I'm alive!
07:26 <tramshed> no youre not.
07:26 <tramshed> die.
07:26 <Durka> =/
07:27 <Durka> #MrBougo
07:27 <armabot> MrBougo is French :\/
07:27 <tramshed> haha
07:27 <tramshed> frogfaced.
07:32 <MrBougo> :p
07:32 <Durka> :P
07:32 <tramshed> I WINS!
07:32 <tramshed> yayz.
07:33 <Durka> #kill tramshed
07:33 <armabot> tramshed will die on 08:03 PM, July 06, 2007 GMT due to being stabbed in the eye by Durka
07:33  * Durka wins
07:40 <Durka> luci just disappears
07:40 <Durka> *sigh*
07:40 <Durka> i come on at 10:25, his last post is at 10:24 =/
07:40 <Durka> #m Lucifer_arma grr!
07:40 <armabot> Durka: The operation succeeded.
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> er, what was the alias I made the other day?
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> #list alias
07:50 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: monologue, roulette, 42, \\\:o, add, afl, armabot, armaconfig, armaservers, armasettings, babel, ball, bigbrother, bounce, bug, bye, cat, cfg, chatlog, check, cinf, cink, crazylate, ctwf, dance, date, davestupidwebsite"rss, ddl, delire, die, die, digg, digitx, ding, disclaimer, do, dog, dong, eliza, eroulette, f, fastfood, finc, fink, fofo, fortune, g, gcalc, gfight, go, goodbye, hd, (2 more messages)
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> #more
07:50 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: hell, hello, hey, hoop, hungary, hyphy, impregnate, insight, ircstats, jesus, joke, kill, killsomeone, kinc, kinf, laddle10, lastseen, lastseenf, legit, lock, log, log, luke, lukejrwork, m, man, mcalc, mfaq, monologue, morning, move, mrbougo, murder, nano, night, null, onlineplayers, onlineservers, pacman, peek, pingme, pingy, piong, poing, pong, powiedz, praise, pwn, q, rape, (1 more message)
07:51 <MrBougo> aw
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> #jesus fucking christ
07:51 <armabot> Jesus thinks christ is a jerk.
07:51 <MrBougo> lol?
07:51 <MrBougo> #jesus
07:51 <armabot> MrBougo: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
07:51 <MrBougo> #help jesus
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> #jesus MrBougo
07:51 <armabot> MrBougo: (jesus <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo Jesus thinks $0 is a jerk.".
07:51 <armabot> Jesus thinks MrBougo is a jerk.
07:51 <GodTodd> #jesus Durka
07:51 <armabot> Jesus thinks Durka is a jerk.
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> #jesus "his dick"
07:51 <armabot> Jesus thinks his dick is a jerk.
07:55 <Durka> lol, crazy thunder outside :S
07:56 <GodTodd> #alias add jesus echo Jesus thinks $1 is a jerk.
07:56 <armabot> GodTodd: The operation succeeded.
07:56 <GodTodd> #jesus his dick
07:56 <armabot> Jesus thinks his dick is a jerk.
07:57 <Durka> #jesus fucking christ
07:57 <armabot> Jesus thinks fucking christ is a jerk.
07:57 <Durka> xD
07:57 <Durka> #help echo
07:57 <armabot> Durka: (echo <text>) -- Returns the arguments given it. Uses our standard substitute on the string(s) given to it; $nick (or $who), $randomNick, $randomInt, $botnick, $channel, $user, $host, $today, $now, and $randomDate are all handled appropriately.
07:57 <GodTodd> #help kill
07:57 <armabot> GodTodd: (kill <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "echo $1 will die on 08:03 PM, July 06, 2007 GMT due to being stabbed in the eye by $who".
07:58 <Durka> lol
07:58 <GodTodd> hrmm
07:58 <GodTodd> that's lame :)
07:58 <Durka> #alias add kill "echo $1 will die on $now due to being stabbed in the eye by $who"
07:58 <armabot> Durka: The operation succeeded.
07:58 <GodTodd> that's what i was about to do
07:58 <GodTodd> :)
07:58 <Durka> lol, who changed it to be stuck on that lame date? :S
07:58 <Durka> #kill GodTodd
07:58 <armabot> GodTodd will die on Sat Sep 22 07:57:36 2007 due to being stabbed in the eye by Durka
07:58 <Durka> :D
08:00 <GodTodd> i wish randomDate had ways to manipulate it :/
08:00 <Durka> #GodTodd
08:01 <GodTodd> #durka
08:01 <GodTodd> #list alias
08:01 <armabot> GodTodd: monologue, roulette, 42, \\\:o, add, afl, armabot, armaconfig, armaservers, armasettings, babel, ball, bigbrother, bounce, bug, bye, cat, cfg, chatlog, check, cinf, cink, crazylate, ctwf, dance, date, davestupidwebsite"rss, ddl, delire, die, die, digg, digitx, ding, disclaimer, do, dog, dong, eliza, eroulette, f, fastfood, finc, fink, fofo, fortune, g, gcalc, gfight, go, godtodd, goodbye, (2 more messages)
08:01 <Durka> #GodTodd
08:01 <armabot> Error!
08:02 <GodTodd> #godtodd
08:02 <armabot> Error!
08:02 <Durka> #\\\:o
08:02 <Durka> #afl
08:02 <GodTodd> wow...at least make it interesting...
08:02 <armabot> Durka: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Armagetron_Fortress_League |--| Results: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=AFL_Spring_Results |--| Schedule: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=AFL_Schedule |--| Calendar: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=AFL_Calendar |--| Servers: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=AFL_Servers
08:02 <Durka> heh
08:02 <Durka> #alias add afl "echo http://durkas.info"
08:02 <armabot> Durka: The operation succeeded.
08:02 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
08:03 <Durka> #afl
08:03 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Hunters Glen VIII, Plano, Texas is 77.4°F (1:03 AM CDT on September 22, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 62.6°F. Pressure: 29.85 in 1010.7 hPa (Rising).  Air pollution watch level Orange in effect for Saturday...
08:03 <armabot> http://durkas.info
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08:04 <GodTodd> liar
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08:10 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
08:10 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Near Custer and Parker, Plano, Texas is 92.1°F (1:10 AM CDT on September 22, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 82.4°F. Pressure: 29.23 in 989.7 hPa (Rising).  Air pollution watch level Orange in effect for Saturday...
08:10 <GodTodd> wtf?
08:10 <GodTodd> no fucking way our temp went up 15 degrees in 7 minutes
08:11 <luke-jr> LOLOL
08:13 <GodTodd> #weather 68131
08:13 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Omaha, Nebraska is 53.6°F (12:52 AM CDT on September 22, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 46.4°F. Pressure: 30.05 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
08:14 <GodTodd> #weather 88310
08:14 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Alamogordo, New Mexico is 66.2°F (12:11 AM MDT on September 22, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 46.4°F. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
08:14 <GodTodd> wow...chilly back home too
08:14 <GodTodd> #weather 85205
08:14 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Val Vista & University, Mesa, Arizona is 82.8°F (11:01 PM MST on September 21, 2007). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 57.2°F. Pressure: 29.81 in 1009.4 hPa (Falling).
08:14 <GodTodd> ok...we're warmer than phoenix....that's just wrong
08:15 <GodTodd> #jesus the weather
08:15 <armabot> Jesus thinks the weather is a jerk.
08:22 <GodTodd> #wunder 75023
08:22 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Near Custer and Parker, Plano, Texas is 89.6°F (1:23 AM CDT on September 22, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 78.8°F. Pressure: 29.23 in 989.7 hPa (Rising).  Air pollution watch level Orange in effect for Saturday...
08:23 <GodTodd> #cnn 75023
08:23 <armabot> GodTodd: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
08:23 <GodTodd> #help cnn
08:23 <armabot> GodTodd: (cnn <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city.
08:23 <GodTodd> #cnn plano texas
08:23 <armabot> GodTodd: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
08:23 <GodTodd> hrmm
08:31 <luke-jr> #cnn plano+texas
08:31 <armabot> luke-jr: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
08:31 <luke-jr> die
08:48 <Vanhayes> #cnn plano
08:48 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
08:48 <Vanhayes> #cnn saint john
08:48 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
08:48 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
08:48 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 46°F / 8°C | Humidity: 81% | Pressure: 30.17in / 1021hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h | Updated: 3:00 AM ADT; Tonight - A few clouds. Fog patches spreading inland this evening. Wind southwest 20 km/h (12 mph) becoming light this evening. Low 7C(45F).; Friday - Sunny with cloudy periods. Fog patches dissipating in the morning. High (1 more message)
08:48 <Vanhayes> #weather red deer
08:48 <armabot> Vanhayes: The current temperature in Red Deer, Alta., Alberta is 46.4°F (12:00 AM MDT on September 22, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 39.2°F. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Rising).
08:49 <Vanhayes> #night
08:49 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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10:22 <Lucifer_arma> grrr, this paper sucks
10:22 <Lucifer_arma> luckily I only need a rough draft tomorrow
10:23 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
10:23 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 69.6°F (3:21 AM CDT on September 22, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 60.8°F. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011.1 hPa (Steady).
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14:20 <epsy> #tea
14:21 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: No online players.
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16:03 <testnick> k the appelet works :p
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16:20 <MrBougo> hehe
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16:54 <DrJoeTron> god damn it whats with this game working less
16:54 <DrJoeTron> now i can't play in full screen anymore
17:00 <MrBougo> ew
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17:13 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: fontforge
17:15 <epsy> hmm i need some help with css
17:15 <epsy> how can we make something show out of itself keeping its normal pos?
17:16 <wrtlprnft> ?!
17:17 <epsy> well let's imagine i have a banner at the top of my page
17:17 <epsy> which's background's 200px
17:17 <wrtlprnft> ok
17:17 <epsy> then ther's the content which should show up at 100px from the top
17:17 <epsy> *e
17:18 <wrtlprnft> so the banner should be obscuring the text?!
17:18 <epsy> but, on another page, the banner's bg is 1000px
17:18 <epsy> no, the text should be masking the banner :)
17:19 <epsy> http://epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539/~epsy/tronicdonkeys/banner-background-1.png
17:19 <epsy> here's the 'big' banner
17:19 <epsy> should look clearer to you
17:19  * wrtlprnft won't ask why your webserver runs on an arma port
17:19 <epsy> because i was too lazy to open up ports :p
17:20 <epsy> well, i could be putting the contents in a separate entity and having a negative margin to it
17:20 <wrtlprnft> why don't you put the banner in one container and the text in a container with margin-top:-100px?
17:21 <wrtlprnft> exactly
17:21 <epsy> but this means i need to have a hacky thing which gives a class to the content
17:21 <epsy> when it's on the front page
17:21 <epsy> since the banner is owned by the content(body)
17:22 <wrtlprnft> well, the banner could have a negative margin-bottom?
17:22 <epsy> http://epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539/~epsy/tronicdonkeys/index.php?c=0
17:22 <epsy> doesn't work :/
17:23  * epsy sees how ACID2-valid browsers are useful
17:24 <wrtlprnft> err, i don't see a lot of css on that page
17:24 <epsy> http://epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539/~epsy/tronicdonkeys/topbanners.css
17:25 <wrtlprnft> didn't see that second stylesheet
17:25 <epsy> i see no access errors in my logs
17:26 <wrtlprnft> no, i only looked at index.css
17:26 <epsy> oh you just didn't read it lol, i trought opera was searching in the top of my dir-tree
17:27 <wrtlprnft> well, how exactly is it supposed to look?
17:27 <wrtlprnft> right now there's the background image and all text on top of it
17:27 <epsy> the top image should be showing under the main text(ie. that error you see)
17:28 <epsy> the text should show under the title
17:28 <wrtlprnft> just remove that negative margin on #bigbanner?
17:29 <epsy> done..reload
17:29 <epsy> now the image doesn't show up totally :/
17:30 <wrtlprnft> well, it's too big for my screen
17:30  * epsy thinks he'ill use the hacky option
17:30 <epsy> the 500 px ?
17:30 <wrtlprnft> oh, i see it in firefox
17:31 <wrtlprnft> hmm, i reloaded once, now it does
17:33 <epsy> i hate things like « <div id="contents"> » argh
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17:37 <ghableska> #weather 50266
17:37 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 65.8°F (10:33 AM CDT on September 22, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 46.4°F. Pressure: 29.17 in 987.7 hPa (Steady).
17:37 <ghableska> #tea
17:37 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (4/32): dorrpen, Killer, ~{GP}~TIRIP, ~{GP}~°RAm°
17:39 <GodTodd> #weather
17:39 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Mesa, Arizona is 78.8°F (7:47 AM MST on September 22, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 62.6°F. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Rising).
17:39 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
17:39 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Near Custer and Parker, Plano, Texas is 96.1°F (10:40 AM CDT on September 22, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 84.2°F. Pressure: 29.32 in 992.8 hPa (Rising).  Air pollution watch level Orange in effect for today...
17:40 <epsy> http://epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539/~epsy/tronicdonkeys/index.php?c=0
17:40 <epsy> weird hack gaah
17:40 <epsy> function draw_contents()
17:40 <epsy> {
17:40 <epsy>  global $category;
17:40 <epsy>  global $categories;
17:40 <epsy>  if ($category == 0) echo "<div id='contents' class='homepage'>";
17:40 <epsy>  else echo "<div id='contents'>";
17:40 <epsy>  include "pages/{$categories[$category][1]}.php";
17:41 <epsy>  echo "</div>";
17:41 <epsy> }
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17:47 <ghableska> hi MrBougo
17:47 <MrBougo> hi #ghab
17:49 <MrBougo> #realchatlogs
17:49 <armabot> MrBougo: http://master3.armagetronad.net/armalogs/
17:50 <MrBougo> #help null
17:50 <armabot> MrBougo: (null <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo  ".
17:50 <MrBougo> #alias add null ""
17:50 <armabot> MrBougo: The operation succeeded.
17:50 <epsy> #null
17:50 <MrBougo> #echo [null [mrbougo]] test
17:50 <armabot> [MrBougo is French :\/] test
17:50 <MrBougo> lawl
17:50 <MrBougo> doesnt work
17:50 <MrBougo> err
17:50 <ghableska> #crazylate MrBougo is French
17:50 <MrBougo> #null test
17:51 <armabot> ghableska: MrBougo is French
17:51 <MrBougo> :(
17:51 <ghableska> aw
17:51 <epsy> you did an "echo MrBougo is French :\/"
17:51 <MrBougo> #null [mrbougo]
17:51 <MrBougo> #echo [null test]
17:51 <armabot> [test]
17:51 <epsy> lol!
17:51 <MrBougo> #alias add null "echo  "
17:51 <armabot> MrBougo: The operation succeeded.
17:51 <MrBougo> #echo [null test]
17:51 <armabot>  
17:51 <MrBougo> "" isnt a good null alias
17:51 <MrBougo> #echo [ignore test]
17:52 <MrBougo> ignore makes everything ignored
17:52 <MrBougo> #echo [ignore test] test
17:53 <MrBougo> http://master3.armagetronad.net/armalogs/log-2007-04-25.txt
17:53 <MrBougo> 21.46
17:53 <MrBougo> 21:46
17:53 <MrBougo> err
17:53 <MrBougo> i already said that oO
17:59 <MrBougo> weird
17:59 <MrBougo> wrtlprnft: what happened to the logs?
17:59 <MrBougo> no log after sept 15
17:59 <GodTodd> since when do the schools let kids buy on credit
17:59 <GodTodd> stupid fuckers
17:59 <MrBougo> ?
17:59 <GodTodd> :/
18:05  * GodTodd just got a call from his son's school that his account is $20 in arrears.
18:06 <DrJoeTron> SHUT UP GodTodd
18:08 <GodTodd> fuck you motherfucking DrJoeSlut....stick the fucker straight up your puckered ass
18:08 <GodTodd> :)
18:10 <ghableska> #crazylate  fuck you motherfucking DrJoeSlut....stick the fucker straight up your puckered ass
18:10 <armabot> ghableska: Couldn't talk to server: [Errno socket error] timed out
18:10 <ghableska> bah
18:12 <wrtlprnft> sec
18:14 <wrtlprnft> apaü
18:14 <wrtlprnft> apparently my nfs got unmounted
18:14 <wrtlprnft> *a nfs share
18:14 <ghableska> http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/
18:15 <wrtlprnft> http://master3.armagetronad.net/armalogs/log-2007-09-22.txt
18:15 <DrJoeTron> no u
18:15 <wrtlprnft> MrBougo: ↑
18:15 <MrBougo> fine :)
18:15 <MrBougo> ty wrtlprnft
18:16 <wrtlprnft> yw
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18:29 <epsy> http://epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539/~epsy/tronicdonkeys/index.php?c=2
18:29 <epsy> does this looks better like this or it would be better plain in the bg
18:29 <epsy> (i mean the contents)
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18:41 <epsy> #help cyborg
18:41 <armabot> epsy: (cyborg [<name>]) -- Returns a cyborg acronym for <name> from <http://www.cyborgname.com/>. If <name> is not specified, uses that of the user.
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18:49 <epsy> hay-es-van
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19:26 <mixnetwork> hello some one n?
19:26 <mixnetwork> in
19:27 <epsy> hay
19:27 <mixnetwork> i have a problem playinf my own maps, local it works if i upload it
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19:27 <mixnetwork> it wonnt
19:28 <mixnetwork> somebody knows anything about hte maps in here ;)
19:29 <mixnetwork> I made on e, it works but I can't get it run on the webserver, only local
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21:14 <Lucifer_arma> flies are fucking on my face, I watch the maggots breed
21:14 <Gursikh> for some reason I read that as files
21:25 <Lucifer_arma> dylscie?
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21:29 <Gursikh> I suspect so, but I refuse to admit it
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21:47 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma go shower then
21:48 <GodTodd> or at least shoo them away...
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22:57 <Lucifer_arma> providing every thing they want, everything they need
22:59 -!- P4|away is now known as P4
23:10 <GodTodd> the flies?
23:10 <Lucifer_arma> my hands are tied, my hands are tied, tied hands set them free
23:10 <GodTodd> well...sure...they've already put maggots on you
23:10 <GodTodd> they should have no problem leaving now
23:10 <GodTodd> :)
23:11 <Lucifer_arma> my eyes tear to your pain, call me liberty
23:11 <Lucifer_arma> it's a song I get stuck in my head whenever I'm suffering some sleep deprivation
23:11 <GodTodd> liberty or liberty_arma?
23:12  * GodTodd really should be working on java :/
23:12 <GodTodd> but i need to go grill up some steaks here in a few
23:13 <Lucifer_arma> yay, finally a dissenter against the liberals, and he/she doesn't sound half-literate like the rest
23:14 <GodTodd> quarter-literate? ;)
23:14 <Lucifer_arma> at least three quarters, anyway
23:14 <Lucifer_arma> paragraphs and everything
23:14 <GodTodd> wow?
23:14 <Lucifer_arma> well-reasoned
23:14 <GodTodd> er
23:14 <GodTodd> wow!
23:14 <GodTodd> multisyllabic?
23:14 <Lucifer_arma> yep, italics and bold type on top of it
23:15 <Lucifer_arma> I want to post in response just to say "thank you for not being a semi-literate liberal, now I'll disagree with you directly"
23:15 <GodTodd> no "ain't"s?  or "they took our jobs!"?
23:16 <Lucifer_arma> none at all
23:16 <Lucifer_arma> the discussion is the iraq war
23:16 <GodTodd> ah
23:16 <Lucifer_arma> it's also not parroting the party line (which is what most of the semi-literate comments do)
23:16 <GodTodd> not a worn out topic at all ;)
23:16 <Lucifer_arma> my sarcasm detector is ringing, heh
23:17 <GodTodd> might wanna get that checked *innocent whistle* :)
23:18 <Lucifer_arma> doctor blaire, doctor blaire, doctor jane hamilton, doctor jane hamilton
23:18 <GodTodd> people just need to get over the fact that just because we probably shouldn't be over there, we're there and we can't just pull out without spilling our cum everywhere....it'll be 3-5 years *minimum* until we can mount any kind of a mass pullout....then move on to the next international pussy :)
23:23 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know that it'll take that long, but I'd like to think we can just pull out anytime, take the year or so it'll take, and the country will be fine
23:23 <Lucifer_arma> but what I consider "fine" and what most people consider fine are different
23:23 <Lucifer_arma> sure, Iraq will degenerate into civil war, but in the end I think they'll set up a good government
23:24 <Lucifer_arma> in fact, I think they have a good constitution, if they can just get the right people into office :)
23:24 <Lucifer_arma> hopefully a good civil war will shape the right people and prepare them for the job of leading
23:24 <Lucifer_arma> but I'm crazy, right?  ;)
23:24 <Gursikh> right
23:29 <GodTodd> they're going to need a civil war anyways...the sunnis and the shia/shiites are never going to learn to get along until one kicks the living shit out of the other
23:31 <luke-jr> pfft
23:31 <luke-jr> because everything requires war
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23:46 <Flex_> greetings :)
23:46 <epsy> hay Flex_
23:46 <Flex_> hey, sup
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23:56 <epsy> Flex_, do you know how i get my visitor's hostmask with php/http ?
23:58 <Flex_> i already pm'ed you epsy
23:58  * epsy didn't got any pm
23:58 <Flex_> ah
23:58 <epsy> guests can't send pms it seems :p
23:58 <Flex_> oh
23:58 <epsy> ih
23:59 <Flex_> but what do you mean by that exactly, like those free scripts you get that record visitors?
23:59 <Flex_> or like a full php script
23:59 <epsy> Durka@cpe-76-81-28-7.socal.res.rr.com <--- that's the kind of things i want to check for

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