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Log from 2007-09-21: --- Day changed Fri Sep 21 2007 02:28 -!- MaZuffeR [n=MaZuffeR@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has quit ["Leaving."] 02:30 -!- mixnetwork [n=chatzill@91.66.227.92] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.7/2007091417]"] 03:50 -!- Vanhayes [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu83w-156034251148.pppoe-dynamic.nb.aliant.net] has joined #armagetron 04:03 <GodTodd> Fry the Jena Six! 04:11 -!- GodTodd [n=TheTruth@pool-71-123-207-64.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 04:11 -!- GodTodd [n=TheTruth@pool-71-123-207-64.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron 04:27 -!- Vanhayes_ [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu83w-156034204251.nb.aliant.net] has joined #armagetron 04:44 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, are all wal-marts 24 hours? 04:44 -!- Vanhayes [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu83w-156034251148.pppoe-dynamic.nb.aliant.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:46 <Lucifer_arma> ah, this one is, good 04:47 <Gursikh> no 04:47 <Gursikh> In texas most are, but you will be sorely dissapointed when you go out of state 04:50 * GodTodd has bene to quite a few states in the last couple of years...don't remember a walmart that *wasn't* 24 hours... 04:50 <GodTodd> been* 04:51 <Gursikh> northeast, most of them aeren't 24h, california same story 04:51 <GodTodd> heh...i haven't been northeast ever...and haven't been to california in a decade or more :) 04:52 <Lucifer_arma> nothing in northeast except yankees 04:52 <Gursikh> darn tootin' 04:52 <Lucifer_arma> I'm going to email my teacher before I plunk $20 down on a cable for my calculator 04:52 <Lucifer_arma> if he wants to see systems of equations worked out by hand, no point in the purchase 04:53 <GodTodd> takes hands to run a calculator...:) 04:53 <Lucifer_arma> heh 04:54 <Lucifer_arma> you'd think we're at the point where systems of equations is something you can delegate just like arithmetic 04:54 <GodTodd> you'd think 04:54 <Lucifer_arma> I emailed him. I expect him to say yes, since he said yes when I asked him the same question about wxMaxima on the homework 04:55 <Lucifer_arma> I *really* don't want to solve systems of equations on the test. If he says no, I'm going to brush up on my matrices 04:55 <Lucifer_arma> I found a program for my calculator that'll do that stuff, and also a calculus program 04:57 <Lucifer_arma> wal-mart's supposed to stock the connector kit, and there's a linux program that'll handle the connection 04:57 <Gursikh> there is a linux program for the TI-calc!?!? 04:57 <Lucifer_arma> yep 04:58 <Lucifer_arma> http://lpg.ticalc.org/prj_tilp/about.html 04:59 <Lucifer_arma> but be warned if you have a titanium 04:59 <Lucifer_arma> bug in the firmware, doncha know 05:00 <Gursikh> I have no, no titanium 05:00 <Gursikh> I have 83, 83+, 84,92+ and a couple HP's 05:00 <GodTodd> oh good...my physics teacher extende dthe homework due date to tomorrow night :) 05:01 * GodTodd has a regular ti83 05:01 <Lucifer_arma> hey, send me one that does systems of equations :) 05:01 * Lucifer_arma has a ti83+ 05:01 <Gursikh> 92+ does them 05:01 <Gursikh> and the hp's do too 05:01 <Lucifer_arma> doesn't the titanium do them too? 05:01 <Gursikh> no clue 05:01 <Gursikh> never had one 05:01 <Lucifer_arma> er, does it do systems of 3 equations? 05:02 <Gursikh> iirc yes 05:02 <Gursikh> but it's been a long while 05:04 <GodTodd> Fry the Jena Six! 05:09 <Lucifer_arma> wtf? 05:10 <GodTodd> some racial protest in loosiana 06:10 <Lucifer_arma> it should be legal to kill vegetarians, so long as you intend to eat them. 06:10 <Gursikh> +1 06:10 <GodTodd> agreed :) 06:21 -!- Vanhayes_ [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu83w-156034204251.nb.aliant.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:29 <luke-jr> http://www.softwarefreedom.org/news/2007/sep/20/busybox/complaint.pdf 06:32 <Gursikh> yeah read about that, first lawsuit over gpl violation right? 06:32 <luke-jr> in the US* 06:32 <Gursikh> wait, there are other countries than the US? and they are allowed to have courts?!?! 06:32 <Gursikh> :-P 06:32 <luke-jr> ... 06:33 <Gursikh> That was the average american citizen response for your reading pleasure 06:43 -!- Jovan [i=8a@gateway/tor/x-2086e7dcaace74e9] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:51 -!- Jovan26 [i=8a@gateway/tor/x-8fdaad280104f33c] has joined #armagetron 07:17 <Lucifer_arma> first american lawsuit over gpl violation, near as I can tell 07:17 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, that line I gave was someone's sig in the slashdot discussion about it 07:17 <Lucifer_arma> I liked the sig, but the discussion reminded me why I quit reading slashdot 07:23 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@130.19-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #armagetron 07:35 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@130.19-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [] 07:57 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm glad I didn't run off and buy a link cable now 07:58 <Lucifer_arma> these programs that solve systems of equations only solve 2 unknowns, and they're dumb at that 07:58 <luke-jr> lol 07:58 <Lucifer_arma> they only take them in the form of ax + by = c 07:58 <Lucifer_arma> you give a, b, and c and they solve it 07:58 <Lucifer_arma> I can do that much in my head 07:58 <Lucifer_arma> grrrr 09:04 -!- spidey [n=spidey@unaffiliated/mcspiddles] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:11 -!- spidey [n=spidey@unaffiliated/mcspiddles] has joined #armagetron 09:14 -!- ToddKitchen [n=TheOneTr@pool-71-123-207-64.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:14 -!- ToddKitchen [n=TheOneTr@pool-71-123-207-64.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron 09:28 <spidey> /e 09:29 <spidey> /exec armagetronad 09:29 <spidey> :D 09:29 <spidey> /exec -o armagetronad* 09:42 <luke-jr> no 09:45 <spidey> why not?! 09:57 <luke-jr> spidey: ... 09:58 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o luke-jr] by ChanServ 09:58 <@luke-jr> ☺ 09:58 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o luke-jr] by luke-jr 10:16 <spidey> ☺ 10:16 <spidey> ... 10:19 <luke-jr> ☺ 10:19 <luke-jr> ☺☺☺ 13:00 -!- MaZuffeR [n=MaZuffeR@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has joined #armagetron 13:02 <spidey> lol 13:02 <spidey> i'ma run outta diskspace on the ubuntu partition by the end of the month :( 13:26 <beta_USA> "spidey> /exec -o armagetronad*" <= hehe. Good thing armagetronad is not really verbose :) 13:29 <beta_USA> btw about GPL, there were lawsuit in Germany and France and they win. ie GPL was declared to be valid according to french & german laws. 14:18 -!- Jovan26 [i=8a@gateway/tor/x-8fdaad280104f33c] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:48 -!- deja_vu [n=deja_vu@Q0f83.q.pppool.de] has joined #armagetron 15:19 -!- noob7 is now known as noob7_away 15:19 -!- noob7_away is now known as noob7 16:19 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@91.186-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #armagetron 16:21 -!- hang3r [n=hang3r@ppp121-44-222-22.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #Armagetron 17:00 -!- kidanger [n=kidanger@100.5.99-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #armagetron 17:30 -!- hang3r [n=hang3r@ppp121-44-222-22.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:31 -!- Jovan26 [i=8a@gateway/tor/x-45b975348ef48bf5] has joined #armagetron 18:17 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@91.186-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [] 18:58 -!- DrJoeTron [n=DrJoeTro@adsl-76-215-5-195.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #Armagetron 19:13 -!- Sticky_ [n=joliver@137.205.181.236] has joined #armagetron 19:13 <Sticky_> hay all 19:30 -!- tramshed [i=tramshed@religious.death666.org] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:30 <beta_USA> hey 19:33 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@127.202-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #armagetron 19:39 -!- beta_USA [n=theo@theo.is-a-geek.org] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:40 -!- beta_USA [n=theo@theo.is-a-geek.org] has joined #armagetron 19:44 <beta_USA> http://www.lesswatts.org another great project from intel (after powertop). 19:45 <beta_USA> Now my battery life is 2x better. 19:46 <MrBougo> hehe :) 19:46 <MrBougo> saw that today 19:46 <MrBougo> does it really work? 19:46 <MrBougo> what did you do? 19:47 <beta_USA> recompile some softs + patches (after powertop, i didn't read this one yet). 19:48 <beta_USA> i'm gonna kill my isp :/ 19:48 <MrBougo> :( 19:48 <MrBougo> me too 19:48 <MrBougo> lets hack the nuke 19:50 <beta_USA> Hm. Btw, About the battery like, also i used KDE and now i'm using wmii. So powertop is not the only cause. 19:50 -!- tramshed [i=tramshed@religious.death666.org] has joined #armagetron 19:50 <DrJoeTron> LUNEX 19:51 <MrBougo> oh 19:54 <MrBougo> JOETRON 19:55 -!- deja_vu [n=deja_vu@Q0f83.q.pppool.de] has quit ["leaving"] 20:23 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@127.202-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [] 20:37 -!- hoop_tron [n=john@ip-195-233.sn2.eutelia.it] has joined #armagetron 20:39 <mkzelda> items on wendys 99cent menu are still only 99cents 20:39 <mkzelda> well duh, its called the 99 cent menu, it'd be hard to price it otherwise 20:40 <mkzelda> and all they did was just put less/smaller/cheaper items on over tme 20:40 <mkzelda> time 20:40 <mkzelda> when commercials like that piss me off so much i will go out of my way not to buy their product 20:41 <mkzelda> i cant say there are too many instances of an advertisement that conned me into buying something 20:41 <mkzelda> but bad advertising will preclude me from doing so 20:41 -!- hoop_tron [n=john@ip-195-233.sn2.eutelia.it] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:48 <mkzelda> Where's the beef? 20:49 -!- tramshed [i=tramshed@religious.death666.org] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:50 -!- tramshed [i=tramshed@2002:46e2:5f8a:0:0:0:0:1] has joined #armagetron 20:51 -!- tramshed [i=tramshed@2002:46e2:5f8a:0:0:0:0:1] has quit [Client Quit] 20:52 -!- tramshed [i=tramshed@2002:46e2:5f8a:0:0:0:0:1] has joined #armagetron 20:56 <mkzelda> http://youtube.com/watch?v=kOEWd_M5m44 20:58 <DrJoeTron> mkzelda speaking of 20:58 <DrJoeTron> did you know halo3 is coming out? 20:58 <DrJoeTron> i was unaware 21:02 <mkzelda> are u sarcastic, cause i really was unaware 21:02 <mkzelda> i thought halo 2 just came out on PC 21:02 <mkzelda> i mean i know its been on xbox for a while 21:03 <mkzelda> but wasnt it just a couple months ago that it hit PC and everyone bitched cause it was Vista only 21:03 <mkzelda> and then someone made the patch to make it play on xp 21:03 <DrJoeTron> yeah 21:03 <DrJoeTron> theres fucking halo3 stuff everywhere 21:03 <DrJoeTron> its like starwars merchandise bad 21:04 <DrJoeTron> i don't even like halo 21:04 <DrJoeTron> i mean the first one was kinda fun 21:04 <mkzelda> heh, i try to avoid things like that and i dont watch much tv and i adblock everything 21:04 <mkzelda> but some things slip thru, like that wendys commercial 21:05 <mkzelda> theres some furniture commercial that has some really fugly dikey chick w/ an even uglier voice 21:05 <mkzelda> just b/c they picked her as the actress i wont buy furniture from them 21:05 <mkzelda> b/c its the annoying crap that stays in my head 21:05 <mkzelda> idk my bff jill? 21:06 <mkzelda> that makes me want to punch the tv 21:06 <mkzelda> the new one where the kid spells out U-G-H 21:07 <mkzelda> thats not an acronym, u can just say ugh 21:08 <mkzelda> half those acronyms spoken outloud are more syllables than just saying hte words 21:08 <mkzelda> and I think 2002 is calling to inform these people of the T9Word function 21:09 -!- kidanger [n=kidanger@100.5.99-84.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:09 <DrJoeTron> haha 21:09 <DrJoeTron> all i've been playing lately is tf2 21:09 <mkzelda> all ive been playing is nexuiz 21:09 <mkzelda> what is tf2? 21:09 <DrJoeTron> team fortress 2 21:09 <mkzelda> arma? 21:09 <DrJoeTron> source engine 21:10 <DrJoeTron> it doesnt come out till october 9th 21:10 <mkzelda> as in CSS? 21:10 <DrJoeTron> but who ever preorders Orange Box 21:10 <DrJoeTron> yeah essentially 21:10 <DrJoeTron> i'd pair it with half life first :v 21:11 <mkzelda> ive yet to play any of those yet 21:11 <DrJoeTron> who ever preorders orange box through steam gets 5 bucks off and you get to play tf2 early 21:11 <mkzelda> cause it doesnt work in wine... i get menus w/o text on the buttons 21:11 <mkzelda> so i dont know what buttons to clik 21:11 -!- beta_USA [n=theo@theo.is-a-geek.org] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:11 <DrJoeTron> haha 21:11 <DrJoeTron> that stinks 21:11 <spidey> mkzelda, wrong 21:11 <mkzelda> no you are 21:11 <DrJoeTron> spidey its amazing 21:11 <spidey> no, you are 21:11 <mkzelda> no you are 21:12 <spidey> i played cs:s last night, in wine 21:12 <mkzelda> no you are 21:12 <DrJoeTron> its so much better than TFC 21:12 <spidey> so YOU are 21:12 <spidey> and i got 50 fps at that 21:12 <mkzelda> thats cool, what version u using? 21:12 <spidey> on a pci 5500 fx :P 21:12 <spidey> spidey@hax:~$ wine --version 21:12 <spidey> wine-0.9.45 21:12 <mkzelda> i did have that problem w/ diablo as well, and i managed to fix it w/ some worms armageddon dx patch 21:12 <spidey> i'm running the latest version :P 21:12 <mkzelda> wine-0.9.44 21:12 <spidey> they don't even have bins for it yet 21:13 <spidey> i got wine running in 9.44... 21:13 <mkzelda> omg you're so bleeding edge 21:13 <mkzelda> :D 21:13 <spidey> wait 21:13 <spidey> i got cs:s running in wine 21:13 <spidey> 9.44* 21:13 <spidey> ffs 21:13 <spidey> i need to goto sleep 21:13 <mkzelda> nope 21:13 <spidey> yes, i did 21:13 <mkzelda> no i meant u dont need to sleep 21:14 <spidey> o 21:14 <spidey> i do so :( 21:14 <mkzelda> i wasnt trying cs:s i dont think 21:14 <mkzelda> i didnt get that far anyhow, it was all the steam bullshit that wouldnt work 21:14 <spidey> ? 21:14 <spidey> steam works fine for me 21:14 <spidey> :P 21:14 <mkzelda> it was half life 1 anthology i was trying 21:14 <spidey> there's some tweaking you have to do 21:14 <spidey> but it'll work 21:14 <mkzelda> oh now u say that 21:15 <spidey> did it freeze at 26% of the install? 21:15 <mkzelda> no, it installed 21:15 <mkzelda> i think, i just couldnt see any text 21:15 <mkzelda> on any menus 21:15 <spidey> might be the fonts 21:15 <DrJoeTron> welp i have a free half life 2 key 21:15 <mkzelda> free for you or free for me? 21:15 <spidey> lemme get it :D 21:15 <mkzelda> :D 21:15 <mkzelda> i called dibs 21:16 <DrJoeTron> spidey can go to hell :V 21:16 <DrJoeTron> no idea who is getting it yet 21:16 <DrJoeTron> i wont get it untill october9th 21:16 <spidey> :( 21:16 <DrJoeTron> when orange box actually releases 21:16 <spidey> actually i don't care for it 21:16 <mkzelda> i have a buddy that got banned from steam for 'cheating' so they blacklisted his serial and wouldnt listen to his complaints 21:16 <mkzelda> he's not really a smart kid, he's incapable of cheating 21:16 <spidey> i have hl2dm and so far i haven't had problems running hl2 mods 21:17 <spidey> so why would i need hl2? :P 21:17 <DrJoeTron> spidey you wont 21:17 <DrJoeTron> because you bought the source engine 21:17 <DrJoeTron> so they let you play all of the mods 21:17 <DrJoeTron> hl2 is great thats why 21:17 <DrJoeTron> did you try fortress forever? 21:17 <mkzelda> anyone wanna play nexuiz? :D 21:18 <spidey> the only problem i have is 21:18 <mkzelda> i like games that are free and run smoothly 21:18 <spidey> steam.exe uses 50% of my ram =/ 21:18 <DrJoeTron> i like free games 21:18 <DrJoeTron> but i also like valve am willing to give them money 21:18 <DrJoeTron> because they haven't fucked me over yet 21:18 <spidey> haha i'm using windows 98 compat for wine 21:19 <spidey> steam's telling me if i don't upgrade my os i can't use steam after june 30th 21:19 <mkzelda> im pretty much happy w/ arma and nexuiz from now on 21:19 <DrJoeTron> theres one more game i need to get 21:19 <DrJoeTron> but wont be out till next year 21:19 <DrJoeTron> and thats fallout 3 21:19 <mkzelda> arma was good enuf on its own for the 3 or 4 years ive played it now, however long its been 21:21 <mkzelda> i have a modded xbox w/ almost every game on the hd, from b4 i got busted, and i never touch it, unless i want to emulate nes/snes/gen/psx, or stream tv shows 21:21 <mkzelda> if u count roms theres like 25,000 games on that thing and i just play arma and nexuiz 21:23 <DrJoeTron> god tf2 is fun 22:15 -!- spidey [n=spidey@unaffiliated/mcspiddles] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:26 -!- marclizotte [n=marclizo@modemcable004.12-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #armagetron 22:26 -!- marclizotte is now known as quarg 22:27 -!- quarg [n=marclizo@modemcable004.12-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has left #armagetron [] 23:09 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-216-109-179.client.mchsi.com] has joined #armagetron 23:09 <ghableska> #weather 50266 23:09 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 88.3°F (4:08 PM CDT on September 21, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 66.2°F. Pressure: 28.77 in 974.2 hPa (Falling). Severe Thunderstorm Watch 680 in effect until 11 PM CDT this evening... 23:12 <ghableska> #tea 23:12 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (3/32): G5, Kamakazi, ~|DS|~ judders 23:29 <DrJoeTron> ghableska you're alive 23:30 <ghableska> DrJoeTron: yep 23:30 <ghableska> how's tf2? 23:30 <DrJoeTron> absolutely amazing 23:31 <DrJoeTron> i've never had more fun in an fps 23:31 * ghableska will just have to wait till his birthday :/ 23:31 <DrJoeTron> hehe 23:31 <DrJoeTron> by that time it'l be more polished 23:31 <DrJoeTron> its still kinda buggy 23:31 <DrJoeTron> but man its so fun 23:31 <ghableska> does it run well on your comp? 23:31 <DrJoeTron> very well 23:32 <DrJoeTron> i can only run it very smooth on medium textures 23:32 <ghableska> ah 23:32 <DrJoeTron> so it looks like the xbox version 23:32 <DrJoeTron> but everything else is turned up including anti aliasing 23:32 <ghableska> the xbox version still looks pretty nice though 23:32 <DrJoeTron> get the pc one 23:32 <DrJoeTron> more longevity 23:32 <ghableska> heh, I don't have a 360 23:33 <DrJoeTron> but man 23:33 <DrJoeTron> its so fun 23:33 <ghableska> I love those "Meet the ____" videos 23:34 <DrJoeTron> they're fantastic 23:34 <DrJoeTron> valve was really late releasing it 23:34 <DrJoeTron> they missed the monday deadline 23:34 <DrJoeTron> by like 20 minutes 23:34 <ghableska> ...that's not much 23:34 <DrJoeTron> they were having major bugs with th LINUX dedicated server 23:34 <ghableska> oh 23:35 <DrJoeTron> so they just released it with just the windows dedicated server 23:36 <ghableska> what's your favorite class? 23:36 <ghableska> HWG? :p 23:36 <DrJoeTron> it depends on the situation 23:36 <DrJoeTron> its THAT balanced 23:37 <ghableska> :o 23:37 <DrJoeTron> breaking sieges of a billion engineers and sentry guns, its all about combining heavy weapons and medic 23:38 <ghableska> oh, for that 30 seconds of invulnerability? 23:38 <DrJoeTron> 10 23:38 <DrJoeTron> so you just walk out and destroy their 15 minutes worth of building 23:38 <DrJoeTron> spy is incredible too 23:38 <ghableska> hmm 23:38 <ghableska> 15 minutes worth of building? O_O 23:39 <DrJoeTron> and nothing beats running across 2fort as a scout, over the bridge, on to the other fort just to beat a sniper to death witha bat 23:39 <ghableska> heh 23:40 <mkzelda> http://thepiratebay.org/blog/86 23:41 <ghableska> :D 23:44 <mkzelda> A special thanks to Jay Maris, for circumventing there entire 23:44 <mkzelda> email-security by forwarding all your emails to your gmail 23:44 <mkzelda> account, and using the really highly secure password: blahbob 23:45 <mkzelda> lol 23:58 <DrJoeTron> !tf 23:58 <DrJoeTron> !tf1 23:58 <DrJoeTron> woopView entire month
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