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Log from 2007-09-01:
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01:21 <Lucifer_arma> send it to me, and I'll just keep it :)
01:25 <spidey_> liar
01:25 <spidey_> u lie
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01:29 <Lucifer_arma> why would I lie about something like that?
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03:22 <Stewie-arma> grrrrrr
03:23 <Stewie-arma> I am mad
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03:35 <spidey_> i'm such a slow reader =/
03:35 <Stewie-arma> lol
03:35 <spidey_> i read 40 pages since the last time i said something.
03:35 <spidey_> =/
03:35 <Stewie-arma> I've been working on a word problem for the past 3 days and still can't get anything
03:35 <spidey_> 40 pages in 2 hours......and to think i do 40 pages of homework in 30 minutes
03:35 <spidey_> rofl
03:35 <Stewie-arma> lol
03:36 <Stewie-arma> 40 pages in 30 minutes?
03:36 <spidey_> yar
03:36 <spidey_> well
03:36 <Stewie-arma> how do you do that?
03:36 <spidey_> if it's math or history
03:36 <Stewie-arma> oh
03:36 <spidey_> math and history are easy for me
03:36 <Stewie-arma> same
03:36 <spidey_> science takes to fucking long
03:36 <Stewie-arma> and chem
03:36 <spidey_> 45 pages of nothing but reading
03:36 <spidey_> then 25 pages of nothing but questions
03:37 <spidey_> now ssshh! i'm going back to reading my c# book :p
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03:45 <spidey_> oh ffs
03:45 <spidey_> i just realized this book has 225 pages
03:45 <Your_mom_arma> hmm?
03:45 <Stewie-arma> lol
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03:47 <Stewie-arma> interweb = slowsss
03:49 <Stewie-arma> well back to starcraft, want to beat it before they release the date for the release of StarCraft II
03:49 <Stewie-arma> lol
03:50 <Stewie-arma> (that's starcraft + broodwar)
03:53 <spidey_> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=479058&in_page_id=1770&ito=newsnow
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04:19 <spidey_> i made a shitty calculator ftw :D
04:19 <Lucifer_arma> ?
04:19 <spidey_> reading a c# ebook -.-
04:19 <Lucifer_arma> c#?  wtf?
04:20 <Lucifer_arma> say it with me:
04:20 <Lucifer_arma> waste
04:20 <Lucifer_arma> of
04:20 <Lucifer_arma> time
04:20 <spidey_> page 52 of 2225
04:20 <spidey_> 225*
04:20 <Lucifer_arma> c# is nothing but microsoft's penis envy over java
04:20 <spidey_> lol
04:20 <Lucifer_arma> and inability to subordinate java
04:21 <spidey_> well
04:21 <spidey_> i'm bored and figured i'd kill 7-8 hours reading it
04:25 <Lucifer_arma> it's really frustrating that my statics teacher has assigned all the problems whose answers aren't in the back of the book
04:39 <Stewie-arma> lol
04:58 <luke-jr> spidey_: go read the Qt manual :p
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05:08 <spidey_> luke-jr, u
05:19 <Stewie-arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=191671#191671  ^.^
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05:23 <luke-jr> holy crap
05:23 <luke-jr> 1.8 MB/sec downloading...
05:23 <Stewie-arma> from what?
05:24 <luke-jr> TrollTech
05:24 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I saw that post, but my brain is already hurting from these statics problems
05:24 <Stewie-arma> lol, srsly I have spent about 8-10 hours just staring at it
05:24 <Stewie-arma> maybe tomorrow you could help
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> Stewie-arma: I forgot to point out that frequently if you post a moviepack onto the wiki without a screenshot, some generous reader will download it and snap off a shot to post
05:40 <Stewie-arma> ofcourse you always forget something!
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, well, whadya 'spect?
05:41 <Stewie-arma> my rubbers to not go to russia
05:41 <Stewie-arma> lolz http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=15
05:53 <Stewie-arma> grrrrrrr,
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06:49 <dora> hi
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07:32 <spidey_> #night
07:32 <armabot> Good night spidey_!
07:37 <Lucifer_arma> man, what a pain
07:52 <Lucifer_arma> #ping
07:52 <armabot> pong
07:55 <Lucifer_arma> grrr
07:55 <Lucifer_arma> #ping www.austincc.edu
07:55 <armabot> pong
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08:05 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: if you want to sync a google calendar with korganizer, make sure the google calendar is set to UTC, or GMT without DST
08:06 <GodTodd> good to know :)
08:07 <Lucifer_arma> that's a really weird setting that I wish google didn't have
08:07 <GodTodd> heh
08:07 <Lucifer_arma> at least now I know that gcalsyncdaemon is worthless because Korganizer can already retrieve the calendar
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08:08 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, but that doesn't get it into kpilot :(
08:10 <GodTodd> so, like, where it's asking me for my timezone, put in gmt +0?
08:19 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
08:19 <Lucifer_arma> for the calendar specifically
08:19 <Lucifer_arma> in your user settings, you still put your regular timezone
08:19 <Lucifer_arma> that'll make the user interface take input in your regular timezone, but it'll be stored in GMT
08:20 <Lucifer_arma> which is what other apps expect the ics file to be
08:21  * Lucifer_arma gives jpilot his award for shittiest gtk app ever
08:21 <GodTodd> heh
08:27 <Lucifer_arma> why is it so damn hard to get my calendars where I want them?
08:27 <Lucifer_arma> WHY?!?!?
08:27  * Lucifer_arma suspects he's gonig to have to resort to paper and pencil
08:27 <Lucifer_arma> which indicates failure by programmers!
08:36 <GodTodd> lack of standardization
08:38 <GodTodd> personally, i'm probably just going to get a cheapo student planner at walmart and carry that with me
08:48 <MrBougo> hello
08:49 <GodTodd> olleh
08:49 <MrBougo> ew
08:53 <MrBougo> brb, changing IP
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08:54 <Bougo> back :)
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08:55  * MrBougo is now playing: U2 - Beautiful Day (Mat Zo Remix)
08:55 <MrBougo> eek, my ip didnt change
08:55 <MrBougo> brb
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11:05 <z-man-home> z-man-work stole my nick :)
11:51 <MrBougo> hehe
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12:07 <DrJoeTron> http://www.awwnigga.com/
12:07 <DrJoeTron> oh god don't go there
12:12 <DrJoeTron> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2IWxqvsSY8 click that instead
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13:16 <Ill> hello
13:16 <Ill> are there any linux users around?
13:17 <qxdtz> ill ???
13:17 <Ill> ja?
13:17 <qxdtz> i'm digitx wtf
13:17 <qxdtz> xD
13:17 <Ill> hehe
13:17 <Ill> nice name
13:17 <qxdtz> tell your problem
13:17 <qxdtz> :D
13:18 <Ill> hey....what is ur fps at tron? coz mine iz like 250 and on windoze it was 85....
13:18 <qxdtz> 200
13:19 <qxdtz> rofl
13:19 <qxdtz> 91 ... blabla
13:19 <Ill> hmmm....i guess i'll just have to live with it....:))
13:20 <qxdtz> u knew how alpha is gp member?
13:20 <qxdtz> :P
13:20 <Ill> oO
13:20 <Ill> Oo
13:21 <Ill> hmmm
13:21 <qxdtz> really, and he use tag too
13:21 <Ill> i wonder y
13:21 <qxdtz> :D
13:21 <Ill> i think he is bored....
13:21 <qxdtz> no no
13:21 <qxdtz> now why impossible?
13:21 <qxdtz> all say, i think not, etc etc
13:21 <qxdtz> or not same alpha
13:21 <qxdtz> :D
13:21 <Ill> yeah
13:22 <Ill> he has been acting weird
13:22 <qxdtz> Alpha IN gp
13:22 <qxdtz> he registered on forum too etc
13:22 <qxdtz> :P
13:22 <Ill> might be his brother using his name....
13:22 <qxdtz> lol.. no
13:22 <qxdtz> alpha tactics, tricks, traps
13:22 <qxdtz> so no brother
13:22 <qxdtz> :D
13:23 <Ill> hehe
13:23 <Ill> what irc are you using?
13:23 <qxdtz> version?
13:23 <qxdtz> or i why use irc?
13:23 <Ill> nah...xchat?
13:23 <Ill> or what?
13:23 <qxdtz> xchat
13:23 <qxdtz> yes
13:23 <qxdtz> you too :D
13:23 <Ill> yeah
13:24 <Ill> but im just starting out on linux...feels weird
13:24 <qxdtz> ahha ;D
13:24 <qxdtz> nah now brb
13:24 <qxdtz> i play tremulous :P
13:24 <Ill> k
13:24 <qxdtz> ping charityy ;D
13:32 <Ill> cu later
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16:17 <MrBougo> http://www.simulation-argument.com/ lawl!
16:51 <qxdtz> .-
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17:30 <qxdtz> Hi deja_vu
17:30 <qxdtz> how are you, deja_vu ?
17:31 <deja_vu> hey qxdtz :)
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17:41 <MrBougo> bye
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17:45 <qxdtz> dejaa dejaaaa_vu vu
17:45 <qxdtz> :P
17:46 <deja_vu> >:P
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18:55 <luke-jr> z-man: ping
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19:32 <Lucifer_arma> this is the most annoying first week of classes ever
19:33 <Lucifer_arma> Every teacher in every class is saying "we'll start next week"
19:34 <Lucifer_arma> so I'm basically just going in to get the syllabus :(
19:53 <Lucifer_arma> I guess I'll go down to the bookstore and get the last two books I need for the semester
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21:13 <tramshed> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnncuWUJI0Y
21:53 <spidey__> U HAX
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21:53 <spidey__________> lol
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22:18 <Stewie-arma> aww you changed it back
22:18 <Stewie-arma> #ping
22:18 <armabot> pong
22:18 <Stewie-arma> #piong
22:18 <armabot> poing
22:18 <Stewie-arma> #poing
22:18 <armabot> piong
22:20 <Stewie-arma> lolz
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23:35 <Lucifer_arma> I think I'm going to start taking just my mouse to work with me
23:40 <Lucifer_arma> wow, my stack of textbooks for this semester is almost a foot tall
23:42 <spidey> lol

Log from 2007-09-02:
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01:14 <spidey> well
01:15 <spidey> 70 pages of reading to waste....
01:24 <noob7> bible?
01:30 <spidey> wtf would i read the bible for?
02:07 -!- iipnnp is now known as duudii
02:21 <noob7> see that's what I was wondering...
02:35 <spidey> lol
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04:15 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: because you like reading about porn, drugs, and violence
04:15 <Lucifer_arma> and you have standards that require it to be very graphic
04:15 <Lucifer_arma> at least, that's the reason I'd read the bible
04:16 <GodTodd> the bible's a graphic novel?
04:16 <Lucifer_arma> no, it's just very graphic :)
04:17 <Lucifer_arma> want to see the most worthless rtf document ever created?
04:17 <Lucifer_arma> http://www3.austincc.edu/catalog/fy2008/degengi01.rtf
04:17 <GodTodd> copy of the bible? ;)
04:18 <Lucifer_arma> even more worthless, if you can imagine such a thing
04:18 <GodTodd> man...that's worthless
04:18 <Lucifer_arma> by my count, after this semester I will only need 14 credit hours
04:18 <Lucifer_arma> for that degree, anyway
04:18 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, see that neverending column of footnotes?
04:18 <GodTodd> for the AE?
04:18 <Lucifer_arma> to make this thing useful, you either have to really edit it a lot, or just print the first page
04:19 <Lucifer_arma> no, this is for the AS of Engineering
04:19 <Lucifer_arma> I'm going to snatch that before moving on
04:19 <GodTodd> ahhh
04:19 <Lucifer_arma> I did print out another copy of the degree plan for AE at UT-Austin and put it in my notebook
04:20 <Lucifer_arma> tired of talking about it to my wife (and others) without having something to reference what's in the degree :)
04:20 <Lucifer_arma> and the catalog for the degree-specific stuff, so if I find myself wondering if I should just move on with the AS and go back into the real world,
04:20 <GodTodd> same for me...so i (now) carry the BSCE in my notebook
04:20 <Lucifer_arma> I can look at the course descriptions and slap myself
04:21 <GodTodd> yeah..i'm gooing to piece together the course descrriptions
04:21 <GodTodd> that and make a flowchart to make registration less painful
04:21 <Lucifer_arma> I found a webpage that had them all together
04:21 <GodTodd> kind of a civ type chaart
04:21 <Lucifer_arma> also, UT-Austin makes a flowchart available :)
04:21 <Lucifer_arma> it is very much geared to a standard 18yo kid proceeding through a regular 4-year plan
04:21 <GodTodd> fucker ;)
04:22 <Lucifer_arma> :)
04:22  * Lucifer_arma lives in the wanna-be silicon valley, so should expect lots of electronic information to be available
04:22 <Lucifer_arma> aww, let's face it, Austin wants to be LA in every way that counts
04:22 <Lucifer_arma> including illegal immigrants
04:22 <GodTodd> bah...we have just as much (if not more) silicon than you assholes :P
04:23 <Lucifer_arma> yes, but apparently you doon't have the vanity we do
04:24 <GodTodd> hrmm...we have pretty good vanity
04:25 <Lucifer_arma> maybe ours is just louder for people living in the area
04:25 <GodTodd> that could be :)
04:40 <Lucifer_arma> wait a minute, I believe all the silicon you have is in breasts, while ours is in actual chips
04:40 <Lucifer_arma> hey, I think I may have just settled another argument my wife and I had
04:40 <Lucifer_arma> apparently the dynamics class from ACC *does* transfer to the dynamics class in the AE degree, even though the AE one is explicitly different from the general engineering one at UT
04:43  * GodTodd notes to Lucifer_arma that we have TI as well as many other chip creators/manufacturers
04:44  * Lucifer_arma notes that women in D/FW do have more breast implants than women in Austin
04:44 <GodTodd> true
04:44 <GodTodd> :)
04:45 <Lucifer_arma> so, I gave this long speech to my wife about how I was out of scantrons because I kept giving them away, and that my last test that used it I didn't have any and had to invoke karma
04:45 <Lucifer_arma> and one of the kids I'd previously given a scantron to supplied me with one
04:45 <Lucifer_arma> a few minutes later she was poking around the filing cabinet and found a package with like 4 scantrons in it
04:46 <GodTodd> oh, yeah...i need to get more scantrons
04:46 <Lucifer_arma> hey, get more scantrons
04:46 <Lucifer_arma> shit, I have really put off the results of the AFL
04:46 <GodTodd> hey, i might do that
04:47 <Lucifer_arma> there will obviously be no afl in the fall, I don't have time and have very little support (other than from players, who are wonderful)
04:47 <GodTodd> post that i won and let people fight about it :)
04:47 <GodTodd> should buy some time
04:47 <Lucifer_arma> heh
04:47 <Lucifer_arma> so, should I study statics, or chemistry, or us govt tonight?
04:47 <GodTodd> chem and govt suck
04:47 <Lucifer_arma> keeping in mind that of those, the only one I actually have homework in right now is statics, but I could study the textbook for us govt
04:48 <Lucifer_arma> yes, but if I keep saying that, I won't finish the classes
04:48 <GodTodd> i kept saying that and finished :P
04:48 <Lucifer_arma> govt is self-paced, so if I keep saying it sucks and I'll do more interesting things, I'll never finish it ;)
04:48 <GodTodd> ah...see...i just had to show up and take tests
04:49 <GodTodd> heh
04:49 <Lucifer_arma> if it were that easy, I'd blow it off :)
04:49 <Lucifer_arma> but no, I hae to provide my own lectures and shit.  Aren't you only supposed to do this for classes in which you're really interested?
04:49 <Lucifer_arma> wtf was I thinking?
04:49  * GodTodd has to watch some news show tomorrow morning for govt class...
04:49 <Lucifer_arma> ack, you're taking govt right now too?
04:49 <GodTodd> govt II
04:49  * Lucifer_arma thought you were finished with govt
04:49 <GodTodd> yeah
04:50 <GodTodd> need 6 creds
04:50 <GodTodd> only gots 3
04:55 <Lucifer_arma> I think I'll study govt
04:55 <Lucifer_arma> not that I want to, but I will
04:58 <GodTodd> i have mostly reading to do for next week :/
04:58 <GodTodd> reading textbooks blows
05:00 <Lucifer_arma> indeed, reading textbooks is boring as hell
05:00 <Lucifer_arma> you'd think the same topics could be studied by reading interesting and informative essays
05:00 <Lucifer_arma> but no, we have to read this boring shit
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05:04 <GodTodd> agreed
05:07 <Lucifer_arma> what's worse, this chapter in the book is more Stuff That I Already Know
05:07 <Lucifer_arma> bicameral legislature, the Great Compromise, etc.
05:07 <Lucifer_arma> ratifying the constitution
05:07 <Lucifer_arma> blah
05:36 <GodTodd> haha
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07:24 <GodTodd> blah
07:25 <GodTodd> think i'll put off the other 3 physics problems til tomorrow
07:29 <spidey> liar
07:29 <spidey> u lie...
07:31 <GodTodd> ook
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> spidey's a liar
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08:19 <epsy> hi
08:21 <epsy> it's incre'dible how pidgin SUCKS...
08:23 <epsy> i just came back from vacation and it wont start letting me a stupid error message « if you can reproduce this bug ... » .... of course i can *spank* *spank* -_-
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09:07 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, u
09:07 <Lucifer_arma> no, you
09:15 <Lucifer_arma> furthermore, spidey, you're a complete kneebiter
09:15 <Lucifer_arma> a total goat-nit
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09:24 <epsy> what's new since 2 weeks ? :p
09:28 <spidey> a what O.o
09:28 <spidey> rofl
09:28 <epsy> mrbougo points me to this link: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2pbrt_130-chats-de-compagnie_animals
09:28 <epsy> ... lmao
09:36 <spidey> windows sdk components > 1hour 23 minute download at 800kb/s
09:36 <spidey> -.-
09:36 <epsy> be happy, that there's one existing
09:36 <spidey> ....
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10:35 <epsy> i totally forgot where armagetron searches its master servers list -.-
10:37 <epsy> it's me or wrtl's server is down ?
10:53 <epsy> master1's not answering
11:09 <qxdtz> na
11:09 <qxdtz> now goodddd all
11:09 <qxdtz> maybe ;D
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16:10 <MrBougo> byer
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17:08 <SP|freaky> hello guys (and girls)
17:11 <SP|freaky> is a there a fortress server administrator available?
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17:58 <noob7> hay epsy
17:58 <epsy> oh hi noob
17:59 <qxdtz> hi epsy
17:59  * noob7 waves
17:59 <qxdtz> My Black List: http://lawl.be/VIP/list.php
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19:26 <madmax> #lastseen newb
19:27 <qxdtz> #lastseen madmax
19:27 <armabot> madmax: teh newb has last been seen on The YELLOW Submarine 18 hours 36 minutes ago.
19:27 <armabot> qxdtz: timed out
19:27 <qxdtz> #lastseen madmax
19:27 <armabot> qxdtz: timed out
19:27 <madmax> that's "long time"
19:28 <qxdtz> !lastseen GPp*
19:28 <qxdtz> !lastseen GP*
19:28 <qxdtz> #lastseen GP*
19:28 <qxdtz> :D
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19:28 <armabot> qxdtz: timed out
19:29 <qxdtz> hi bugi
19:29 <qxdtz> -.-
19:29 <MrBougo> hiho digi
19:29 <qxdtz> :))
19:29 <MrBougo> why do you have 2 accounts
19:29 <qxdtz> why not
19:29 <qxdtz> i have more
19:29 <MrBougo> that's stupid
19:29 <qxdtz> u too!
19:29 <qxdtz> :D
19:29 <MrBougo> i mean connecting at the same time with qxdtz  and digitx
19:29 <madmax> #lastseen -f zop
19:29 <armabot> madmax: Zop has last been seen on Fortress Café 1 hour 8 minutes ago.
19:29 <MrBougo> i dont connect with MrBougo and Bougo at the same time
19:29 <madmax> #lastseen -f lackadaisical
19:29 <armabot> madmax: Lackadaisical has last been seen on Fortress Café 2 hours 2 minutes ago.
19:30 <MrBougo> whats -f ?
19:30 <MrBougo> #help lastseen
19:30 <armabot> MrBougo: (lastseen <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/lastseen.php?player=@1+@2+@3+@4+@5+@6+@7+@8+@9".
19:30 <MrBougo> yea right :/
19:30 <madmax> -f is exact match
19:30 <MrBougo> oh
19:30 <MrBougo> is it new?
19:30 <madmax> don't think so
19:30 <MrBougo> let me set up another alias :)
19:30 <MrBougo> umm
19:30 <MrBougo> how should it be...
19:31 <MrBougo> flastseen ?
19:31 <MrBougo> lastseenf?
19:31 <MrBougo> lastseenex
19:31 <madmax> heh
19:32 <MrBougo> #help null
19:32 <armabot> MrBougo: (null <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo  ".
19:32 <MrBougo> #help ignore
19:32 <armabot> MrBougo: (ignore requires no arguments) -- Does nothing. Useful sometimes for sequencing commands when you don't care about their non-error return values.
19:32 <MrBougo> #ignore test
19:32 <MrBougo> #echo test[ignore testtest]test
19:32 <MrBougo> null seems to be better :p
19:32 <MrBougo> #echo test[null testtest]test
19:32 <armabot> test   test
19:32 <MrBougo> wtf!
19:33 <MrBougo> #echo test[null]test
19:33 <armabot> test   test
19:33 <MrBougo> #help null
19:33 <armabot> MrBougo: (null <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo  ".
19:33 <MrBougo> bah
19:34 <MrBougo> #alias add lastseenf  "fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/lastseen.php?player=-f+@1+@2+@3+@4+@5+@6+@7+@8+@9[null INFO: Excact match :)]"
19:34 <armabot> MrBougo: The operation succeeded.
19:34 <MrBougo> #lastseen Ghableska
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19:34 <MrBougo> pff
19:34 <armabot> MrBougo: timed out
19:34 <MrBougo> #lastseenf Mr. Bougo
19:34 <armabot> (fetch <url>) -- Returns the contents of <url>, or as much as is configured in supybot.plugins.Web.fetch.maximum. If that configuration variable is set to 0, this command will be effectively disabled.
19:34 <MrBougo> ya sukz
19:35 <MrBougo> #alias add lastseenf  "echo [fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/lastseen.php?player=-f+@1+@2+@3+@4+@5+@6+@7+@8+@9][null INFO: Excact match :)]"
19:35 <armabot> MrBougo: The operation succeeded.
19:35 <MrBougo> #lastseenf Mr. Bougo
19:35 <armabot> timed out  
19:35 <MrBougo> #lastseenf lackadaisical
19:35 <armabot> Lackadaisical has last been seen on Fortress Café 2 hours 8 minutes ago.  
19:36 <MrBougo> #help lastseenf
19:36 <armabot> MrBougo: (lastseenf <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo [fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/lastseen.php?player=-f+@1+@2+@3+@4+@5+@6+@7+@8+@9][null INFO: Excact match :)]".
19:36 <MrBougo> nice :)
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20:17 <flexx> anyone here?
20:18 <flexx> someone from the kod team can get the server open for me :P
20:18 <flexx> Lackadaisical, madmax
20:18 <flexx> ??
20:21 <madmax> hey
20:21 <madmax> wait a sec ill tell rico you're here
20:22 <madmax> flexx: unlocked
20:22 <flexx> thx
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20:28 <flexx> hey max, can you get him to open again please :)
20:28 <flexx> couldn't get back into spec mode so i left to rejoin
20:31 <madmax> er wasnt watching this, sec
20:32 <flexx> np
20:33 <madmax> open
20:39 <flexx> thx^^
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21:17 <Durka> #logs
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21:18 <beta_usa> hey all
21:18 <Durka> hi newb|e
21:18 <beta_usa> hi Durka
21:18 <newb|e> hi Durka
21:18 <Durka> hi beta_usa
21:19 <spidey> ?
21:20 <Durka> spidey :O
21:20 <spidey> no.
21:20 <Durka> not_spidey?
21:21 <epsy> O_o
21:21 <spidey> NOT_SPIDEY
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21:21 <Drka> stupid replace mode
21:21 <Dorka> pwn
21:21 <Durka> Druka :O
21:21 -!- Drka is now known as Druka
21:21 <Dorka> man
21:21 <Dorka> i wake up, and everyone's gone
21:21 -!- Durka is now known as spudey
21:21 <Dorka> -.-
21:22 -!- spudey is now known as Durka
21:22  * Druka is identified
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02:55 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: ping
02:56 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: how are you tracking your homework and tests and shit?
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03:05 <Stewie-arma> what was that one game called... nexus I think?
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03:10 <Stewie-arma> x
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03:11 <NOOB4LYFE> "The average buddy list has 24 people on it."
03:15 <NOOB4LYFE> xfroggy: ping
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03:24 <NOOB4LYFE> xfroggy: ping!
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03:38 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: pong
03:38 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: i got a cheap student planner that fits in my notebook
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04:12 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: grrrrr, heh
04:13 <Lucifer_arma> I was hoping you'd tried to use korganizer and might have some pointers for me
04:13 <Lucifer_arma> do you copy all of your assignments from the syllabus to the student planner?
04:14  * Lucifer_arma is laboriously copying the assignments from 5 syllabi to korganizer
04:19 <luke-jr> now if Lucifer_arma wasn't ignoring me, I might have a pointer or two for him
04:19 <luke-jr> oh well
04:19 <luke-jr> his loss :D
04:21 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma <luke-jr> now if Lucifer_arma wasn't ignoring me, I might have a pointer or two for him
04:21 <DrJoeTron> <luke-jr> oh well
04:21 <DrJoeTron> <luke-jr> his loss :D
04:22 <Lucifer_arma> costs and benefits, it's just not worth it
04:22 <DrJoeTron> you're missing out on super valuable information from luke-jr!!
04:22 <Lucifer_arma> that's benefits (arguably), but the cost is to stop ignoring him :)
04:23 <DrJoeTron> why dont you just ban him :V
04:24 <Lucifer_arma> he's still got OP, he'd just unban himself
04:24 <Lucifer_arma> not much point otherwise, I saw the effect of his conversation in #qt a little while ago
04:24 <Lucifer_arma> you know, people getting frustrated and pissed and stuff
04:34 <DrJoeTron> so why cant he just get demin'd
04:34 <luke-jr> DrJoeTron: cuz I'm a good admin
04:34 <DrJoeTron> pft
04:34 <DrJoeTron> more like badmin
04:34 <luke-jr> unlike power abusers like you and Lucifer_arma
04:34 <Lucifer_arma> luke?  badmin?  how *dare* you!
04:35 <Lucifer_arma> (badmin is how smegheads view good admins :)  )
04:35 <DrJoeTron> abuser pft, i have yet to get the power to abuse it
04:35 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o DrJoeTron] by ChanServ
04:36 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o DrJoeTron] by ChanServ
04:36 <DrJoeTron> i'd say i did pretty good with my power
04:36 <luke-jr> LOL
04:36 <Lucifer_arma> op in irc is a "big fish in a little pond"
04:36 <DrJoeTron> a smallmin?
04:37 <Lucifer_arma> therefore, "abuse of power" in irc is a petty view
04:37 <Lucifer_arma> I like to think of it more like doing someone a favor
04:37 <DrJoeTron> abuse of power on the internet is a petty view
04:37 <Lucifer_arma> getting kicked from #armagetron means "go do something outside, with people"
04:37 <Lucifer_arma> i.e. don't be an antisocial prick :)
04:38 <Lucifer_arma> in that light, it's more like a privilege
04:38 <Lucifer_arma> an invitation to self-improvement
04:38 <Lucifer_arma> how can that be abuse?
04:39 <DrJoeTron> actually it should be more like "lol ppl still use irc?"
04:41 <Lucifer_arma> #last --from luke-jr --nolimit
04:41 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: [04:41:57] <luke-jr> LOL, [04:40:18] <luke-jr> unlike power abusers like you and Lucifer_arma, [04:40:05] <luke-jr> DrJoeTron: cuz I'm a good admin, [04:24:51] <luke-jr> his loss :D, [04:24:49] <luke-jr> oh well, [04:24:31] <luke-jr> now if Lucifer_arma wasn't ignoring me, I might have a pointer or two for him, [19:02:06] <luke-jr> z-man: ping, [05:29:26] <luke-jr> TrollTech, [05:29:06] (2 more messages)
04:48 <Lucifer_arma> er
04:48 <Lucifer_arma> I think he intended the reading assignments to be assigned as of the day listed on the syllabus :(
04:51 <Lucifer_arma> so, if I have a list of to-do items, and only one possible category I can put them in, and those items represent homework assignments, readings, and tests,
04:51 <Lucifer_arma> should they get a category by class, or by type of assignment?
04:51  * Lucifer_arma is leaning towards class
04:52  * Lucifer_arma has settled on class
05:01 <DrJoeTron> how many hours are yout aking
05:01 <Lucifer_arma> 17
05:01 <Lucifer_arma> you?
05:01 <DrJoeTron> 13
05:01 <Lucifer_arma> wimp :)
05:01 <DrJoeTron> i need to work :3
05:01 <Lucifer_arma> heh
05:06 <Lucifer_arma> :3)
05:06 <Lucifer_arma> :|)
05:07 <Lucifer_arma> :|)_.oO
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05:12 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: liar
05:14 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, U!
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06:12 <spidey> rofl
06:20 <GodTodd> stupid motherfucker
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> jesus fucking christ
06:20 <GodTodd> isn't that the ultimate in masterbation?
06:21 <GodTodd> i bet luke-jr has his client keyed in on the word jesus
06:21 <GodTodd> ;)
06:22 <GodTodd> anywho....got your calendar thing worked out yet?
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> no, but we'll see
06:23 <GodTodd> will we? ;)
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> I'm trying to get something that is reasonably easy to manage electronically, provides a useful printout to put in my notebook, and syncs meaningfully to my pda
06:24  * GodTodd has no pda and just found it easier to pencil in everything on a calendar
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> oh shit, that reminds me, I need to make sure the calendar itself is good so I can print out the next few months
06:25 <GodTodd> korganizer, right?
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> you know, I'll just use the calendar on my pda, the only reason I'd want a hard copy is for information that I just put on my todo list anyway
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, korganizer
06:25 <GodTodd> have you finessed the printing so that it doesn't cut anything off?
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> er, no such problem on the todo list?
06:25 <GodTodd> ah, ok...not printing the actual claendar?
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> and, uh, I've never had such a problem with korganizer
06:25 <GodTodd> alendar*
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> *calendar
06:26 <GodTodd> calendar* grrr
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> my school has a touch-typing class, you know
06:26 <GodTodd> bah...i got a D in one of those in high school :)
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> really?
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> I took the semester-long one, got an A, and was typing faster than the big-breasted teacher when it was over
06:27 <GodTodd> anyway...i had a hell of a time when i first started using korganizer that the calendar would get cut off...finally found the right settings and it works beautifully now
06:27 <GodTodd> i use it for the kids' activities
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> it was one of my few As in high school, and the only one that wasn't a math class
06:27 <GodTodd> you have that blond chick?
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> she was the only one, I think
06:27 <GodTodd> i think so too
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> she was living proof that whatever else a woman might look like, large breasts can compensate
06:28 <GodTodd> haha
06:28 <GodTodd> true dat
06:29  * Lucifer_arma is considering if it would be useful to print the calendar
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> I printed the calendar my first semester for every month, but never used it
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, gotta put the xprizecup stuff on it still
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> but it syncs nicely to my pda (as long as I forget about having ever wanted to use the google calendar)
06:29 <GodTodd> i print the one for the kids so's the inlaws have our family schedule each month
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> that's information I'd rather share electronically :)
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> I hate having to remember to print new copies to update people, and then dealing with what happens when they lose the new copy and keep using the old one
06:30 <GodTodd> yeah, well, my motherinlaw prefers hard copies for the fridge
06:30 <GodTodd> heh
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> there is an advantage to having a hard copy on the fridge, I can't deny that
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> which is why I'm considering printing anyway, so my wife can see my schedule
06:31 <GodTodd> she puts it by my father in law's work schedule
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> since she won't use google calendar anyway, so sharing calendars there is useless
06:31  * Lucifer_arma thinks he was born about 20 years too early for the amount of electronic information sharing he wants to do
06:32 <GodTodd> yeah...we keep a hard copy on the fridge too...tho the calendar in my notebook is specific info on tests, homework, labs and such...stuff that only i need to know
06:32 <GodTodd> that stuff i'll share verbally when needed
06:32 <GodTodd> :)
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, well, it would be nice sometimes if my wife could look at the calendar and just take the kids away
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> would be better if we had a big enough house that there was a place I could go.....  ;)
06:36 <GodTodd> dontchaknowit
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06:37 <GodTodd> we're just about to the point of stuffing the boys in one room which means that i'll have a choice of the bedroom or the upstairs loft :)
06:37 <MrBougo> hiho
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> jesus fucking christ
06:37 <MrBougo> hehe, time for the usual endless discussion between GodTodd and Lucifer_arma
06:37 <GodTodd> the advantage to the bedroom is that there is a door :)
06:37 <spidey> god fucking christ
06:37 <spidey> litterally.
06:37 <GodTodd> jesus fucking satan
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: that's child abuse
06:37 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, liar
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> I just did apt-get install kolabd on my server and got a huge list of things to install
06:38 <GodTodd> jesus fucking satan == romeo and juliet?
06:38 <MrBougo> why would jesus fuck satan
06:38 <MrBougo> haha GodTodd
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> because satan's hot
06:38 <MrBougo> awesome rofl
06:38 <GodTodd> forbidden love, man!
06:38 <GodTodd> don't you read the classics in belgium?
06:38 <GodTodd> :P
06:38 <MrBougo> that's even hotter
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> they're too busy belgium kissing each other
06:38 <MrBougo> yup
06:38 <GodTodd> is that licking up the nostril?
06:39 <spidey> LOL
06:39 <MrBougo> wtf
06:39 <GodTodd> get in there good and get a green nugget?
06:39 <MrBougo> 10 355 844 peoplein belgium in 2003
06:40 <MrBougo> we gotta kiss every belgian enevry day
06:40 <MrBougo> every*
06:40 <GodTodd> all licking boogers?
06:40 <GodTodd> groos
06:40 <MrBougo> nah
06:40 <GodTodd> gross*
06:40 <MrBougo> Lucifer_arma said that it was like french kissing
06:41 <MrBougo> but in belgium
06:41 <MrBougo> oh no that was antwerp kissing
06:41 <luke-jr> ...
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> but what do I know?  I only know how to Texas kiss
06:42 <GodTodd> never learned how to new mexico kiss?
06:43 <MrBougo> i prefer the vatican kiss
06:43 <GodTodd> you like little boys?
06:43 <MrBougo> huh?
06:43 <MrBougo> nope i dont!
06:43 <GodTodd> the vatican does ;)
06:43 <MrBougo> eeeek!
06:43 <MrBougo> even the ol' guru?
06:44 <GodTodd> no proof, but i wouldn't put it past him :)
06:44 <MrBougo> :p
06:44 <MrBougo> oh crap
06:44 <MrBougo> windows live mail is crap
06:44 <GodTodd> windows*
06:44 <MrBougo> i dont have a mailbox, i disabled it
06:44 <MrBougo> and it tells me that i have an unread message
06:44 <MrBougo> and when i wanna read it
06:45 <MrBougo> it tells me that i dont have any mailbox
06:45 <MrBougo> so ive gotta activate, read, delete, disable
06:45 <luke-jr> MrBougo: B16 does
06:45 <MrBougo> not even read, i think its a stupid microsoft ad
06:45 <luke-jr> that's why he covers it all up
06:45 <MrBougo> B16?
06:45 <MrBougo> oh benedict 16
06:46 <luke-jr> Benny 16
06:46 <MrBougo> the ol' guru
06:46 <GodTodd> luke-jr's hero
06:46 <luke-jr> the Rapsinger
06:46 <MrBougo> haha
06:46 <MrBougo> luke-jr's hero is a rapsinger
06:46 <luke-jr> bs
06:46 <GodTodd> crapslinger*
06:47 <MrBougo> did you guys try the google earth flight sim?
06:47 <MrBougo> it's awesome
06:47 <luke-jr> Fr. Ratzinger doesn't have my respect at all, let alone heroism
06:47 <MrBougo> would be better with sound
06:47 <MrBougo> same for me
06:47 <GodTodd> see? luke-jr idolizes the pope :)
06:47 <MrBougo> he's a damn homophobic guy
06:48 <luke-jr> nah, Benny likes homos
06:48 <GodTodd> luke should know *winkwinknudgenudge* :)
06:48 <MrBougo> rofl
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> homophobe is just a fancy way of referring to people who are still in the closet
06:50 <luke-jr> http://luke.dashjr.org/tmp/IMG_0004.JPG
06:50  * luke-jr pwnt GodTodd
06:50 <GodTodd> ummm sure thing, sparky
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> yay, now my wife will quit asking me when my class starts tomorrow
06:52 <luke-jr> who's in dallas? GodTodd or Lucifer_arma?
06:52 <luke-jr> nm
06:52 <luke-jr> Luci runs Mandriva, so it must be GodTodd
06:52 <luke-jr> :p
06:55 <GodTodd> that must make some sort of catholic sense...cuz it makes no real sense
06:55 <GodTodd> and actually, he runs kubuntu
06:56 <Lucifer_arma> #last --from luke-jr --nolimit
06:56 <Lucifer_arma> do I really want to know?
06:56 <GodTodd> probably not
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> I love how the query takes so long I have plenty of time to regret it before it shows up
06:57 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: [06:57:53] <luke-jr> :p, [06:57:51] <luke-jr> Luci runs Mandriva, so it must be GodTodd, [06:57:45] <luke-jr> nm, [06:57:33] <luke-jr> who's in dallas? GodTodd or Lucifer_arma?, [06:55:36] * luke-jr pwnt GodTodd, [06:55:33] <luke-jr> http://luke.dashjr.org/tmp/IMG_0004.JPG, [06:53:42] <luke-jr> nah, Benny likes homos, [06:52:34] <luke-jr> Fr. Ratzinger doesn't have my respect at all, let (3 more messages)
06:57 <GodTodd> and of course if luke-jr had any *real* brains, he could check my whois and intuit that dllstx == dallas texas
06:58 <luke-jr> obviously dllstx = dallas texas, that's why I was asking
06:58 <luke-jr> - - [03/Sep/2007:04:59:55 +0000] "GET /tmp/IMG_0004.JPG HTTP/1.1" 200 45628 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Konqueror/3.5; Linux) KHTML/3.5.6 (like Gecko) (Kubuntu)" luke.dashjr.org luke.dashjr.org
06:58 <Lucifer_arma> cool, mine's just an IP address
06:58 <GodTodd> then why ask, idiot?
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> it used to tell you I was in austin, but apparently doesn't anymore
06:59 <luke-jr> for all I know Luci's Dallas too
06:59 <GodTodd> sure sure...try and cover for your stupidity
07:01  * Lucifer_arma wonders how badly he should try to get As in his welfare classes
07:01 <GodTodd> shouldn't have to try too awfully hard in those ones
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> well, there is a lot of reading and writing in the reading/writing class
07:02 <GodTodd> you don't say! :)
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> but it's setup so that I could finish with a C early, like in early November, and be finished
07:03 <GodTodd> work to a C then just coast to an A or B
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> to get an A, you have to write two more papers after that
07:03 <GodTodd> hrmm
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> I did that for comp 1, and finished the class a couple of weeks early
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> (did that == wrote the A and B papers and still finished early)
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> that was a 9 hour semester, and the other two classes were insanely easy
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> psych and intermediate algebra
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> I wish I could do pass/fail and not have the letter grade to hurt my gpa
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> more important than that, why doesn't korganizer print the categories when you print the todo list?
07:05  * Lucifer_arma has a 3.2 page todo list
07:07 <luke-jr> categories are considered overrated?
07:12 -!- Lucifer_arma is now known as CaptainObvious
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07:23  * GodTodd did the personality profiles today that get me extra  credit in physics
07:23 <Lucifer_arma> personality profiles?
07:23 <GodTodd> yeah...learning style type stuff
07:25 <Lucifer_arma> your learning style?
07:25 <GodTodd> yep
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> ah
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> extra credit for that?
07:26 <GodTodd> yeah...like 5 or 6 points on a test
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> I think I should do at least one statics problem before I go to bed
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> maybe it's worth 5 or 6 points on a test because the teacher can customize for your learning style?  ;)
07:27 <GodTodd> i finished my physics problems early :)
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> well, these aren't due until next week, but I really need to have at least attempted all of them before wednesday
07:28 <GodTodd> that's what he's aiming for, yeah
07:28 <GodTodd> yeah...mine aren't due til thursday night at 11
07:31 <Lucifer_arma> they call this a cdrom?
07:32 <GodTodd> is it a cd you can only read from?
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> it's a teeny tiny cd
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> it's also totally worthless, just advertising for an online service
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> they couldn't just include a link, they had to include a bullshit cd
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> I hope I didn't pay extra for that
07:36 <GodTodd> ah...yeah...people seem to be going to those little mini cds
07:36 <GodTodd> and ads on cds are just stupid
07:37 <GodTodd> hrmm...should i read now or tomorrow on one-dimensional motion?
07:38 <Lucifer_arma> now
07:38 <Lucifer_arma> how long can it take?
07:38 <GodTodd> it's 15 pages or so
07:39 <GodTodd> then i have to read on the origins of civilizations
07:39 <GodTodd> (and no, "god" is not the correct answer)
07:39 <GodTodd> heh
07:40 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know, but I suspect I'm too sleepy to do this problem
07:40 <Lucifer_arma> there's three blocks connected by pulleys, and a spring
07:40 <Lucifer_arma> and as usual they've given minimal information
07:41 <Lucifer_arma> I'll read govt so I can take the test asap
07:41 <Lucifer_arma> and do statics tomorrow when I'm less sleepy
07:41 <GodTodd> what are you covering in govt?
07:41 <GodTodd> you're taking govt I, right?
07:41 <Lucifer_arma> um, we're split differently
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> we've got texas government and us government
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> I'm taking us government
07:42 <GodTodd> ahhh
07:42 <GodTodd> that's right
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> and the chapter I'm on is the one about the constitution and its historical context
07:42 <GodTodd> ahhh...fun stuff :)
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> which only makes the third time I've done this in the last two years
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> but I have to read the chapter if only to refresh my memory on the subject well enough to test
07:43 <GodTodd> yeah...basically study to the test
08:20 <Lucifer_arma> ahhh
08:20 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
08:20 <Lucifer_arma> hm
08:20 <Lucifer_arma> I hate government classes
08:28  * GodTodd too.
08:29 <Lucifer_arma> well, I just read part of Federalist paper #10, where it appears that madison took it for granted that all people would always think for themselves
08:29 <Lucifer_arma> seems that he couldn't imagine a state of the country where a small minority could influence and/or dictate the thoughts of the masses to the extent needed to walk right into an autocracy
08:32 <GodTodd> yep
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11:24 <epsy> hi
11:27 <epsy> #onlineservers
11:27 <armabot> epsy: This data is 27 seconds old; Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), FR - World Of Experience (7/16), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (6/14), Norm's Place (5/12), |FA| Clan Server 1 Â Shooting Gallery! (3/16), [Nano's Playground]|4 ax; mode:nano std.| (2/16), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (2/12), The YELLOW Submarine (1/16)
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12:09 <DrJoeTron> #serverinfo Cage
12:09 <armabot> DrJoeTron: The Lobster Cage: Players (2/7): Guy w/ Da Sword, Liono
12:09 <DrJoeTron> you're fucking kidding me really?
12:11 <epsy> heh
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12:37 <guru3> http://www.inner-district.org
12:37 <guru3> what ever happened to those guys
12:55 <epsy> #tea
12:55 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: No online players.
12:55 <epsy> grat grat
12:55 <epsy> #onlineservers
12:55 <armabot> epsy: This data is 35 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (12/14), The YELLOW Submarine (7/16), ë | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | ì/xff9900 (5/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (4/10), Roommate Game (3/16), Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (2/6)
12:55 <epsy> do i really want to play in ddl ? huh
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13:53 <DrJoeTron> what wow
13:53 <DrJoeTron> #serverinfo Shrunk
13:53 <armabot> DrJoeTron: Shrunkland in 2.8.2: No online players.
13:53 <DrJoeTron> thats more like it
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21:20  * Lucifer_arma loves trig
21:20  * Lucifer_arma had a dream last night where he had to retake trig as a review for statics
21:21 <Lucifer_arma> (it was actually a nightmare)
21:37 <Flex_> hihi all
21:54 <P4> hi Flex_ :)
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01:20 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
01:21 <Vanhayes> #ping
01:21 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 59°F / 15°C | Humidity: 77% | Pressure: 29.79in / 1009hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 12mph / 18km/h | Updated: 8:00 PM ADT; Tonight - Cloudy periods. Wind southwest 20 km/h (12 mph) gusting to 40 km/h (25 mph) becoming light this evening. Low 13C(55F).; Tuesday - Sunny. Wind becoming northwest 20 km/h (12 mph) gusting to 40 km/h (25 mph) in the (1 more message)
01:21 <armabot> pong
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01:39 <Lucifer_arma> now I need to ascertain if my instructor cares if we use a computer algebra system on homework
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02:32 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, the book says 16.81, but I got 16.00
03:12 <Lucifer_arma> well, after figuring out that was wrong and doing it over, I got 15.71 vs 16.81
03:12 <Lucifer_arma> but my answer checks to the same precision that the book's answer checks
03:34 <Lucifer_arma> that's just fucking rude
03:35 <Lucifer_arma> I picked up my half glass of tea, getting ready to make another batch, and right before the glass touched my lips,
03:35 <Lucifer_arma> this fly flies in and gets himself stuck in the tea!
03:35 <Lucifer_arma> bastard
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05:39 <Lucifer_arma> weeee, I hate government class
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06:13 <GodTodd> government class sucks :/
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07:39 <Stewie-arma> well that was fun
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07:40 <Stewie-arma> what what what?
07:42 <Stewie-arma> oh crud almost forgot, I have to do chemistry....
07:49 <spidey_> wtf
07:49 <spidey_> i just realized im in here twice...
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08:04 <MrBougo> spidey: rofl
08:04 <spidey> heh
08:08 <Stewie-arma> back
08:08 <spidey> liar
08:08 <Stewie-arma> says you
08:08 <spidey> LIAR
08:08 <spidey> u tk me
08:08 <Stewie-arma> hmmm... I was going to ask you something but I forgot what it was
08:08 <spidey> bant.
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> scoundrel
08:08 <Stewie-arma> lol
08:09 <spidey> dude
08:09 <Stewie-arma> spidey you didn't bant me
08:09 <spidey> :P
08:09 <spidey> me and Stewie-arma where playing tremulous
08:09 <spidey> having a huge tk war
08:09 <Stewie-arma> lol
08:09 <spidey> we got like half our team tking each other
08:09 <Stewie-arma> yesterday that was amazing
08:09 <spidey> indeed
08:09 <spidey> all the spectators where like
08:09 <spidey> "let me join!"
08:09 <spidey> so i putteam them
08:09 <Stewie-arma> rofl
08:10 <spidey> and it grew even bigger
08:10 <Stewie-arma> yeah I can't putteam
08:10 <Stewie-arma> grrrrrr
08:10 <spidey> level 1 admins can't :p
08:10 <Stewie-arma> what level can?
08:10 <Stewie-arma> lol
08:10 <spidey> 2, 4 and above
08:10 <Stewie-arma> spidey we need to go in when the server is almost full and do a huge tk war
08:11 <spidey> wouldn't be hard
08:11 <spidey> all we'd have to do is run around shooting people
08:11 <Stewie-arma> lol
08:11 <spidey> they'd shoot back, miss, and get someone else going
08:11 <Stewie-arma> lolo
08:11 <Stewie-arma> it's true
08:11 <Stewie-arma> have you seen the previews of starcraft 2?
08:11 <spidey> no
08:11 <Stewie-arma> aww it is awesome
08:12 <Stewie-arma> did you play starcraft 1?
08:12 <Stewie-arma> at all?
08:12 <spidey> no
08:12 <Stewie-arma> oh well your loss
08:13 <Stewie-arma> http://youtube.com/watch?v=OoCaHjfw618
08:14 <spidey> dude
08:14 <Stewie-arma> lol
08:14 <spidey> best song ever.
08:15 <spidey> sec
08:15 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.org/CaptainPlanet.txt
08:15 <spidey> no
08:15 <spidey> wrong one
08:15 <Stewie-arma> lol
08:15 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.org/CaptainTyrant.txt
08:16 <Stewie-arma> an actual song lol
08:16 <Stewie-arma> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1444206069465877689&q=flight+of+the+conchords&total=894&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=7
08:18 <MrBougo> rofl captain tyrnt
08:18 <Stewie-arma> anyone watch flight of the conchords?
08:18 <MrBougo> nice, an armagetron and tremulous clan :)
08:18 <MrBougo> why not nexuiz :D
08:19 <spidey> armagetron, tremulous, soldat, halo
08:19 <Stewie-arma> soldat?
08:19 <spidey> soldat.
08:19 <MrBougo> prolly a soldat game
08:19 <spidey> ....
08:19 <MrBougo> :D
08:20 <Stewie-arma> lol 2d game
08:20 <MrBougo> oh, its a 2d game
08:20 <spidey> side scroller
08:20 <Stewie-arma> generally 2d games are side scrollers
08:20 <MrBougo> lol
08:21 <Stewie-arma> seeing as 2d is a flat plane... gatta scroll somewhere
08:21 <Stewie-arma> lol
08:21 <MrBougo> it looks funny
08:21 <MrBougo> zelda wasnt side scrollin
08:22 <MrBougo> and pacman was 2d and didnt scroll
08:22 <Stewie-arma> that's cause you went around the whole grid lol
08:22 <Stewie-arma> go out one side come around the other
08:23 <spidey> http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/2458/desktopqx7.jpg
08:24 <Stewie-arma> rofl
08:24 <Stewie-arma> anyday:get a life
08:24 <spidey> lol
08:24 <Stewie-arma> so you still have tron, you just don't play?
08:25 <spidey> i installed it like saterday
08:25 <spidey> dunno why, i just did
08:25 <Stewie-arma> lol
08:25 <Stewie-arma> play in your super spare time
08:26 <spidey> nah
08:26 <spidey> i may uninstall it when i run outta space :p
08:26 <Stewie-arma> you still don't like it?
08:26 <spidey> no
08:31 <MrBougo> what's ârtyhat?
08:31 <MrBougo> partyhat*
08:31 <spidey> a person..
08:31 <spidey> those tabs are awesome
08:32 <MrBougo> yup!
08:32 <MrBougo> how did you set it up
08:32 <spidey> vista transformation pack -> rocketdock -> podxp -> thoosje
08:32 <Stewie-arma> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5374664722189965364&q=albi+the+racist+dragon&total=40&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1
08:33 <MrBougo> wait...
08:33 <MrBougo> that's windows!
08:33 <MrBougo> lol
08:33 <spidey> no shit? :p
08:34 <MrBougo> lawlz
08:35 <MrBougo> what about the sys resources spidey ?
08:35 <spidey> ?
08:35 <Stewie-arma> silly albi the racist dragon
08:36 <Stewie-arma> I wish I could play css
08:38 <Stewie-arma> oh snap, you're living in the future
08:38 <Stewie-arma> September 4!
08:38 <Stewie-arma> lol
08:38 <spidey> ?
08:38 <Stewie-arma> it's 11:45 here
08:38 <Stewie-arma> PM
08:38 <spidey> the aussies live in the future
08:39 <spidey> it's already tomorrow for them
08:39 <spidey> or wait, today?
08:39 <spidey> hmm
08:39 <Stewie-arma> silly ausies
08:39 <Stewie-arma> the futures for geeks
08:39 <Stewie-arma> and by futures I mean future is
08:41 <spidey> ...
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08:44 <Stewie-arma> oh yeah, spidey how did genki get to be a moderator?
08:44 <spidey> because she's active, and is on teamspeak :p
08:45 <spidey> wireddd's a operator
08:45 <spidey> ventas and simguy are vip mods
08:45 <Stewie-arma> to bad my mic is busted
08:45 <luke-jr> spidey: mod me mod me
08:45 <Stewie-arma> lol luke
08:45 <spidey> !setlevel luke-jr -5
08:45 <spidey> hm
08:45 <luke-jr> ...
08:45 <Stewie-arma> rofl
08:46 <Stewie-arma> what is that instaban?
08:46 <luke-jr> it's like nice?
08:46 <spidey> no
08:46 <spidey> it's -5 has kick, ban and all that good stuff
08:46 <spidey> the thing is
08:46 <Stewie-arma> if someone calls a vote luke gets instaband lol
08:46 <Stewie-arma> oh
08:46 <spidey> the way adming works, you can't use your powers on a level higher than you
08:46 <Stewie-arma> that seems quite obvious
08:46 <spidey> :P
08:47 <Stewie-arma> unless you need to lern to mine 4 fish
08:47 <Stewie-arma> and by to I mean 2
08:47 <Stewie-arma> lol
08:47  * luke-jr kickbans stewq
08:48 <luke-jr> Stewie-arma:
08:48 <Stewie-arma> haha what now!
08:48 <Stewie-arma> wait spidey can level 1 mute? or just allready?
08:48 <spidey> just allready
08:49 <Stewie-arma> lol that sucks
08:49 <Stewie-arma> rofl
08:49 <Stewie-arma> btw why where they able to call a poll on you?
08:50 <spidey> no
08:50 <spidey> i can't have kick votes called on me
08:50 <spidey> neither can you.
08:50 <Stewie-arma> ...
08:51 <Stewie-arma> someone under the name of captaintyrant had a kick poll going for them
08:51 <Stewie-arma> but it failed
08:51 <spidey> it was a custom vote
08:51 <spidey> /callvote custom "kick Captain tyrant" for "aimbotting"
08:51 <spidey> WTF
08:51 <spidey> WHO'S TRYING TO KICK ME?!?!?!
08:52 <Stewie-arma> lol
08:52 <spidey> don't you lol me.
08:52 <Stewie-arma> I just lol'd you
08:52 <Stewie-arma> I LOL
08:52 <spidey> damn lol'ers
08:52 <Stewie-arma> 'd
08:52 <spidey> roflwaffle
08:52 <spidey> :(
08:53 <spidey> haha
08:53 <Stewie-arma> DON'T YOU ROFLWAFFLE ME!
08:53 <spidey> hahaha...
08:53 <spidey> i'm adding that to my sig.
08:53 <Stewie-arma> what?
08:53 <spidey> <Stewie-arma> CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL!
08:53 <Stewie-arma> lolz
08:53 <Stewie-arma> silly spidey
08:54 <Stewie-arma> you don't know memes obviously
08:54 <spidey> added...
08:55 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.org/smf/index.php?topic=1340.0  <~ :D
08:55 <Stewie-arma> The topic or board you are looking for appears to be either missing or off limits to you.
08:55 <Stewie-arma> Please login below or register an account with Fallin-Angels.
08:56 <spidey> oh yea
08:56 <spidey> those forums are for site members
08:56 <Stewie-arma> lol
09:03 <Stewie-arma> lol damien sux
09:03 <spidey> <3 joe for making that sig for me :D
09:03 <Stewie-arma> 347 hours of css
09:03 <spidey> it's my xfire sig
09:03 <Stewie-arma> holy crap
09:03 <spidey> you should see my hours for other games...
09:04 <Stewie-arma> lol you and genki lol
09:04 <spidey> http://www.xfire.com/profile/spidey1337/
09:04 <Stewie-arma> she was privatedretch?
09:04 <spidey> yea
09:04 <spidey> what about me and her?
09:04 <Stewie-arma> http://fallin-angels.org/smf/index.php?topic=1340.0
09:05 <spidey> i just linked that...lol
09:05 <Stewie-arma> scroll down some
09:05 <Stewie-arma> ...
09:05 <spidey> yea, i know :p
09:05 <Stewie-arma> rofl
09:05 <Stewie-arma> I would lul
09:06 <spidey> lol
09:07 <tramshed> any of you get 32bit java working on firefox-bin on a 64bit system?
09:08 <Stewie-arma> dragonheart is wizzee?
09:08 <spidey> yea
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09:09 <Stewie-arma> spidey, would you object to me being in SP tron and FA trem?
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09:10 <spidey> no. because  you'd only have access to the trem forums :p
09:10 <Stewie-arma> wb /dev/null
09:10 <spidey> people are actually still in SP?
09:10 <Stewie-arma> yeah lol
09:10 <Stewie-arma> but we all pretty much use aliases
09:11 <spidey> sp still hasn't been banned? damn.
09:11 <Stewie-arma> lol
09:11 <Stewie-arma> from what?
09:11 <spidey> tron?
09:11 <Stewie-arma> rofl
09:11 <Stewie-arma> I wouldn't...
09:11 <Stewie-arma> I'm loved!
09:11  * Stewie-arma lulz
09:11 <spidey> so you think
09:11  * spidey points out the private talks behind Stewie-arma's back...nvm
09:11 <spidey> oops
09:13 <Stewie-arma> lol spidey, you've played almost 48 days of games
09:14 <spidey> lol
09:14 <Stewie-arma> pretty sad actually
09:14 <Stewie-arma> lol
09:14 <Stewie-arma>  KPM
09:14 <Stewie-arma> 0.105
09:14 <Stewie-arma> 5 	kills
09:14 <Stewie-arma> 47 	minutes
09:15 <spidey> wolfenstein3d sucks.
09:15 <Stewie-arma> nice spidey you're rocking it
09:15 <spidey> i hate that game.
09:24 <spidey> wow
09:24 <spidey> FA is almost 2 years old...
09:24 <luke-jr> wow
09:24 <luke-jr> the Catholic Church is almost 2000 years old ;)
09:24 <Stewie-arma> lol luke
09:24 <spidey> people still goto that POS?
09:24 <Stewie-arma> it's not a POS!
09:25 <spidey> right
09:25 <spidey> it's a POFS
09:26 <Stewie-arma> no it isn't
09:26 <Stewie-arma> spidey stop yo incesent blabering
09:26 <spidey> u
09:26 <luke-jr> ...
09:29 <Stewie-arma> spidey what's the glitch building?
09:29 <Stewie-arma> like I know what it does
09:29 <Stewie-arma> but where is it?
09:30 <spidey> Stewie-arma, btw, the more you post, the more better chance you have of getting in
09:31 <spidey> we haven't been really inforcing that lately, but we're starting again, one thing we require from our members is to atleast be active in the forums :p
09:32 <Stewie-arma> kk I'll try and post more
09:32 <Stewie-arma> I've just been reading and the like
09:33 <spidey> i don't mean like posting all the time, just so that you're active and still intrested , usually takes 3-4 depending, sometimes longer, sometimes less :p
09:33 <Stewie-arma> aight
09:33 <spidey> s/so/show
09:33 <Stewie-arma> I try not to spam
09:33 <spidey> we all spam
09:33 <Stewie-arma> ^.^
09:33 <spidey> look at our friggin post counts...
09:33 <Stewie-arma> yeah I saw lol
09:37  * spidey runs off to trem
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09:42 <z-man> Oh crap, I just received a message from Section 31.
09:43 <Stewie-arma> section 31!?
09:43 <MrBougo> byebye
09:43 <MrBougo> whats section31
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09:44 <z-man> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_31
09:44 <z-man> The message said: "Do not park your bike here."
09:44 <z-man> very cryptic.
09:44 <Stewie-arma> lol
09:45 <Stewie-arma> it's from startrek
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09:50 <Stewie-arma> lol the who would make a better president:Total votes: 44856
09:50 <Stewie-arma> Bush: 13640 votes
09:50 <Stewie-arma> 30%
09:50 <Stewie-arma> Tic-Tacs: 31216 votes
09:50 <Stewie-arma> 70%
09:56 <luke-jr> chess anyone?
09:56 <Stewie-arma> if I didn't have school in 6 hours maybe...
09:56 <luke-jr> lol
09:57 <luke-jr> I have to finish coding something by 6 hours from now too XD
09:57 <Stewie-arma> then get on it!
09:57 <luke-jr> but it's perl...
09:57 <luke-jr> :p
09:57 <Stewie-arma> oh
09:57 <Stewie-arma> pfft
09:59 <luke-jr> omg
09:59 <luke-jr> pouetChess gets like 1 fps
10:00 <Stewie-arma> time to go sleepy sleep
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10:11 <epsy> hi
10:25 <spidey> 53 kills in 14 minutes
10:25 <epsy> woa that beats ddl
10:28 <spidey> ddl?
10:29 <spidey> i'm talking about tremulous
10:29 <spidey> though, on tron, way back when i'm sure i've made over 53 kills in 14 minutes
10:29 <spidey> especially on high rubber
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13:44 <DrJoeTron> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=191723#191723 think this might get results?
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14:22 <Lucifer_arma> heh, joe :)
14:23 <Lucifer_arma> it just flat amazes me how many people will take an open source game, code some perceived value-add program, and not follow the example set by the game they're trying to add value to
14:23 <Lucifer_arma> and then whine about how they worked hard and feel like they have a right
14:23 <Lucifer_arma> well, maybe they do, but they don't have the moral high ground
14:24 <Lucifer_arma> I have a right to spank my monkey, but I don't think anybody would give me the moral high ground for doing it in a children's book store after hours
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14:40 <z-man> I would. You can spank your monkey wherever you want :) As long as only consenting individuals watch and you clean up afterwards.
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16:15 <Stewie-arma> ruh roh
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17:39 <epsy> [ebuild     U ] dev-python/pygtk-2.10.4 [2.8.6] USE="opengl -doc -examples%" 1,845 kB [3]
17:39 <epsy> [ebuild  N    ] dev-python/pygobject-2.12.3  USE="-debug -doc" 332 kB [3]
17:39 <epsy> [blocks B     ] <dev-python/pygtk-2.9 (is blocking dev-python/pygobject-2.12.3)
17:39 <epsy> wtf does this mean ? O_o
17:39 <epsy> that's just dumb
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20:54 <zmanuel> epsy: welcome to Gentoo Hell :)
20:57 <luke-jr> lol
21:00 <epsy> heh
21:01 <luke-jr> Portage is too stupid to realize that upgrading pygtk solves the problem
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22:05 <epsy> yea -.-
22:05 <epsy> #luke-jr_work portage
22:05 <armabot> ♪ portage is obsolete. ♫
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04:53 <Lucifer_arma> #luke_jr_work My penis
04:53 <armabot> ♪ My penis is obsolete. ♫
04:55 <GodTodd> #luke_jr_work Catholocism
04:55 <armabot> ♪ Catholocism is obsolete. ♫
04:56 <Lucifer_arma> http://technocrat.net/d/2007/9/4/26262
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05:01 <GodTodd> heh
05:04 <Lucifer_arma> it's an interesting irony that orwell was monitored by mi5
05:06 <GodTodd> yep it is :)
05:06 <GodTodd> and *before* the book
05:08 <Lucifer_arma> probably played a significant role in writing the book
05:08 <Lucifer_arma> he was commenting on english society at the time
05:08 <Lucifer_arma> or so I think, anyway
05:08 <GodTodd> i'm sure
05:08 <Lucifer_arma> so he wasn't some loony then when he wrote it.  surprised?  ;)
05:08 <GodTodd> nope
05:08 <Lucifer_arma> man, I don't know what's scarier anymore.
05:09 <GodTodd> luke-jr:
05:09 <GodTodd> :)
05:09 <Lucifer_arma> it used to be that you could just wave off a black-helicopter tinfoil-hat conspiracy theorist as acting like an ass and using very bad reasoning on poor evidence
05:09 <GodTodd> same thing i said...
05:09 <GodTodd> heh
05:10 <Lucifer_arma> but besides this, when the CIA released their "family jewels", it basically amounted to "those whackjob conspiracy theorists have been right all along"
05:10 <GodTodd> yep
05:10 <Lucifer_arma> but they're nutjobs!  THey *are* using bad reasoning on poor evidence to develop really whacked out theories
05:10 <Lucifer_arma> I guess the old adage is still true, even a broken clock is right twice a day
05:10 <GodTodd> yep
05:11 <GodTodd> thing is...it's not *all* the nutjobs that turned out to be right
05:11 <GodTodd> easy to pick out the ones that are/were when using hindsight
05:11 <Lucifer_arma> no, there's a core of individuals that were right, and the nutjobs grabbed onto it to publicise it
05:12 <Lucifer_arma> and that's the problem, because it means all the nutjobs that took it and ran with it, and interlaced it with all their other whacky theories basically discredited the true stuff completely
05:12 <GodTodd> right
05:12 <Lucifer_arma> so what are they saying now that's true, that we need to care about?  Who knows?  It's so embedded in all the whacky stuff...
05:12 <Lucifer_arma> and why are they the only ones that seem to care, anyway?
05:12 <GodTodd> which...are we sure that the government doesn't "crack down" on them *because* of that tendency?
05:13 <GodTodd> er...doesn't leave them alone
05:13 <GodTodd> something like that
05:13 <GodTodd> my brain is rotted by humanities class :/
05:14 <GodTodd> the best and easiest place to hide something is in plain sight
05:14 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, you ever play Vampire: the Masquerade?
05:15 <GodTodd> long time ago
05:15 <GodTodd> yeah
05:15 <Lucifer_arma> you remember the idea in there that part of the masquerade was to create the mythology around vampires so that peole would never believe they could be real?
05:15 <GodTodd> yep
05:15 <Lucifer_arma> if the government occasionally terrorizes a crazy conspiracist guy, they just make him crazier
05:15 <GodTodd> the trick is in *who* spreads the "news" :)
05:16 <Lucifer_arma> so he goes on the air, or writes a book, or makes a documentary, or whatever, and just looks crazier
05:16 <GodTodd> exactly
05:16 <Lucifer_arma> they don't have to really try to suppress him, they just have to wiggle their dicks at him
05:16 <GodTodd> yep
05:16 <Lucifer_arma> in fact, if they succeeded at suppressing these guys, it would undermine what they're really after
05:16 <GodTodd> precisely :)
05:16 <Lucifer_arma> which is protecting a small subset of real information they've got and making sure it's discredited
05:17 <Lucifer_arma> bah
05:17 <GodTodd> and i wouldn't discount *calculated* leaks of conspiracy theory
05:17 <Lucifer_arma> madison really screwed up when he assumed that people would always have their own thoughts and keep government in check
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> oh definitely.  The white house probably plans their leaks nowadays to hit the bloggers first, so they'll thoroughly discredit the leak with their inanities
05:18 <GodTodd> thing is...the founding fathers assumed the whole country would be as smart and freethinking as they tended to be
05:18 <GodTodd> they didn't account for stupid americans
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> so when it hits mainstream, it's like "who cares?  The idiots already talked it to death and it's not that big a deal"
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> they missed a few things, that's for sure
05:18 <GodTodd> yep
05:18 <GodTodd> quite a few
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> Thomas Jefferson apparently never saw the conflict of interest in public education
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> when the government controls education, everybody loves government
05:19 <GodTodd> when the church controls education, everybody loves the church
05:19 <GodTodd> same principle
05:19 <Lucifer_arma> it's hard to knock them for it, since they were on the cutting-edge of political engineering, considering they were the first to implement Locke's ideas in a real government
05:19 <Lucifer_arma> and they did so many *good* things forming this country
05:20 <GodTodd> oh...yeah...they did an awesome job...and it's impossible to think of every eventuality...but there's still stuff they could have thought about/set up differently
05:20 <Lucifer_arma> but man, blindly following what the founding fathers did and said is probably at least as destructive to good government as just blindly doing whatever <insert your favorite idiot here> says
05:20 <GodTodd> definitely
05:21 <Lucifer_arma> I've got the founding fathers on my mind right now because of this book (lemme dig up a link) which I'm currently reading:
05:21 <GodTodd> and they at least had an inkling that that was true which is why they set up a means to change what they set up
05:21 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.webscription.net/p-588-1812-the-rivers-of-war.aspx
05:22 <Lucifer_arma> the means is too slow for the kinds of social revolutions we've seen, though
05:22 <Lucifer_arma> when the country industrialized, there was a vacuum of legal structures to protect citizens that evil blood-sucking capitalists stepped into and exploited people
05:22 <Lucifer_arma> same thing when the so-called information age started
05:22 <GodTodd> yep
05:22 <GodTodd> disinformation*
05:23 <Lucifer_arma> we're still in that vacuum, that's what free software is all about, trying to establish the legal structures we need to have a free society in the future
05:23 <Lucifer_arma> it sounds so very silly in a lot of ways, but some day we could find ourselves wishing the corporations didn't control how information was disseminated
05:23 <GodTodd> yep
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> yay, finally, an assignment in my government class :)
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07:54 <GodTodd> bah...went ahead and wrote my weekly summary report for govt class :/
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08:41 <MrBougo> whats govt class?
08:46 <GodTodd> government class
08:50 <MrBougo> ...
08:51 <MrBougo> yep but what the hell i this
08:51 <MrBougo> i think we dont have anytything similar here
08:51 <GodTodd> you don't study the inner workings of your government?
09:14 <Lucifer_arma> apparently not
09:21 <spidey> Lucifer_arma: liar
09:25 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: punk
09:25 <spidey> u
09:26 <Lucifer_arma> no, you
09:26 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm going to bed, and I've wasted enough time tonight
09:26 <Lucifer_arma> got real homework and shit now :)
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10:41 <epsy> http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/152186681/article.pl
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18:46 <Lucifer_arma> bastards
18:46 <Lucifer_arma> they canceled my order!
18:47 <Lucifer_arma> the only jo on the web that's the right size, and they canceled the order because they were out of stock!
18:47 <Lucifer_arma> what, you can't go cut another 54 inch stick?
18:47  * Lucifer_arma is going to the lumberyard now
18:47  * Lucifer_arma mumbles that he should have done this to begin with
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20:17 <epsy> #onlineservers
20:17 <armabot> epsy: This data is 20 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (13/14), Norm's Place (11/12), ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Fortress {100MBit} (9/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= Backup Server (7/10), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (7/12), ëDurka Durka Landë (5/16), SPACEZONE [VERY HIGH SPEED!!] (4/8), WILDCAT (3/16), Fortress Café (3/32), The YELLOW Submarine (2/16), Tigers Network (1 more message)
20:25 <spidey_> lol @ microsoft
20:38 <spidey_> so
20:38 <spidey_> how would i get a app running in wine to go away
20:38 <spidey_> since it  seems to think it should move between all my virtual desktops to
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03:01 <Vanhayes> http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2007/09/05/hybrid-embryos.html  <--- just throwing it out there. Real Cowboys in the making
03:01 <spidey> ....
03:02 <Vanhayes> its about human/cow hybrids
03:03 <Vanhayes> the british are making them
03:06 <spidey> hmm
03:06 <spidey> that'd look funny...
03:06 <spidey> a cow body and a human head
03:06 <spidey> rofl.
03:07 <Vanhayes> or a hman body with a cow head
03:07 <Vanhayes> human*
03:14 <spidey> o.o
03:17 <Vanhayes> hmm, new freeciv beta out...
03:37 <spidey> freeciv?
03:37 <spidey> what's that game
03:38 <spidey> ?
03:56 <Lucifer_arma> ah oh
03:56 <Lucifer_arma> does that mean more bugs now?
04:01 <spidey> lol
04:05  * Lucifer_arma goes to look at the changelog
04:37 <spidey> know any co-op fps games for linux?
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05:05 <mkzelda> http://www.nuxified.org/article/nuxified_and_cluenet_prepare_a_gaming_tourney_you_are_invited
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06:22 <DrJoeTron> spidey fortress forever gets released this month apparently
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06:43 <Lucifer_arma> yay, I have a jo now
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> a human body with a cow head that's male is called a minotaur
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> for a third grader:
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> "Which of the following best describes the rule to stay safe with electricity?"
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> "Be neat."
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> "Protect your eyes."
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> "Don't get shocked"
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> "Keep things out of your mouth."
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08:44 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.doingitwrong.com/wrong/20070515.gif
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11:45 <spidey> /exec -o armagetronad
11:45 <spidey> :D
12:59 <spidey> wtf is a pythagorean theorem o.o
13:01 <noob7> sounds like it has something to do with triangles?
13:01 <spidey> yea, i should have read the examples...
13:02 <spidey> basically a^2+b^2 press teh square root button
13:02 <spidey> =c
13:08 <spidey> that's stupid...
13:08 <spidey> they give me a sqaure root chart that goes to 50
13:08 <spidey> but all the questions they have is above 50....
13:12 <spidey> cd ~/.wine
13:12 <spidey> wrong window....
13:22 <z-man-work> spidey: use your brain :)
13:23 <z-man-work> for example, sqrt(120)=sqrt(4*30)=2*sqrt(30)
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14:12 <GodTodd> spidey: the pythagorean theorem is the rule that states that the sum of the squares of the two legs of a triangle is equal to the square of the hypotenuse
14:12 <GodTodd> :)
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14:37 <spidey> lol z-man-work
14:37 <spidey> calculator works better :p
14:37 <spidey> and i swear i'm getting more stupid by the day >.>
14:38  * z-man-work learned the ropes of trigonometry and the like with tables and a slide ruler :)
14:38 <spidey> o.O
14:38 <spidey> pre-algebra here =/
14:40 <spidey> i don't get why schools insist on teaching one thing, for weeks, when i can learn it in 2-3 hours...
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15:03 <noob7> yeah fucking tables and ruler... why werent we allowed to ctrl+f? *rolleyes*
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15:43 <DrJoeTron> #serverinfo shrunk
15:43 <armabot> DrJoeTron: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “shrunk” at the moment, sorry.
15:43 <DrJoeTron> fuck you armabot
15:43 <DrJoeTron> ahhh its not your fault I didn't mean that
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16:01 <epsy> hi
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17:32 <beta_usa> oi oi
17:32 <beta_usa> hey deja_vu
17:32 <beta_usa> hey everyone
17:36 <spidey> #weather 38256
17:36 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 76.6°F (10:43 AM CDT on September 06, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 75.2°F. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018.5 hPa (Rising).
17:38 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
17:38 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Near Custer and Parker, Plano, Texas is 78.1°F (10:45 AM CDT on September 06, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 73.4°F. Pressure: 29.18 in 988.0 hPa (Rising).
17:56 <spidey>  /me yawns
17:56 <spidey> ...
17:56  * spidey test
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18:35 <deja_vu> hey beta_usa
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18:50 <beta_usa> :)
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19:16 <DrJoeTron> .players
19:16 <DrJoeTron> woops
19:27 <Lucifer_arma> oops
19:27 <Lucifer_arma> heh, don't practice in front of the cop!  ;)
19:27 <Lucifer_arma> (neighbor's retired lapd)
19:28 <Lucifer_arma> wound up with an old cop-issue baton and a manual to go with it
19:28 <Lucifer_arma> and managed to do so without making any Rodney King cracks
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20:17 <spidey> anyway i can tell which version of xorg i have?
20:24 <deja_vu> spidey: Xorg -version
20:24 <spidey> ahah
20:25 <spidey> i tried xorg,XOrg
20:25 <spidey> just about any combo, except that one -.-
20:25  * spidey is a noob
20:29 <Lucifer_arma> yep, you are
20:29 <spidey> :(
20:30 <Lucifer_arma> gentoo is for noobs
20:30 <Lucifer_arma> real men use Roadrunner Linux!
20:30 <spidey> wtf is that?
20:30 <Lucifer_arma> a penguin that lives in the desert and is specialized in making coyotes go hungry
20:31 <spidey> LOL
20:31 <Lucifer_arma> what else would it be?
20:31 <Lucifer_arma> I was all excited that my govt teacher finally posted an assignment until I looked at the due date
20:32 <Lucifer_arma> it's not due until the second exam is due, so it would be near useless for me to do it right now
20:33 <spidey> lol
20:33 <spidey> brb
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20:45  * epsy whicshes this update to pidgin is avaliable
20:45 <spidey> ok so
20:45 <epsy> nice spelling
20:45 <epsy> -.-
20:45 <spidey> anyone run compiz-fusion and gentoo? :p
20:45 <epsy> rofl
20:46 <epsy> compiz sucks on my gfx
20:46 <epsy> :p
20:46 <epsy> http://gentoo-xeffects.com/
20:46 <spidey> unknown host.
20:46 <epsy> or that's .org
20:46 <spidey> :p
20:46 <epsy> bah
20:46 <spidey> well
20:46 <epsy> gentoo wiki is .com
20:46 <spidey> i'm following gentoo-wiki.com for installing it
20:47 <epsy> http://wiki.gentoo-xeffects.org/Main_Page
20:47 <spidey> but compiz-fusion isn't in portage...
20:47 <epsy> emerge --sync; emerge portage;etc-update
20:48 <spidey> nvm
20:48 <spidey> i skipped a step :D
20:48 <epsy> ;p
20:48 <epsy> layman ?
20:48 <epsy> heh
20:48 <epsy> it's a pita to install
20:51 <spidey> ok i think i got it now
20:51 <spidey> i was supposed to use a svn checkout that i missed the step for :D
20:52 <epsy> ldconfig starts to get on my face -.-
20:52 <epsy> trade
20:52 <epsy> O_o
20:52 <epsy> wrong paste
20:52 <epsy> lol
20:52 <epsy> /sbin/ldconfig: //usr//lib/opengl/xorg-x11/lib/libGLU.so.1 is not a symbolic link
20:52 <epsy> /sbin/ldconfig: //usr//lib/opengl/xorg-x11/lib/libGLw.so.1 is not a symbolic link
20:52 <epsy> /sbin/ldconfig: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 is not a symbolic link
20:55 <epsy> yaya pidgin 2.0.2 is avaliable...
20:55  * epsy hopes for bugfixes
20:56 <epsy> startup-notification
20:56 <epsy> Global: Enable application startup event feedback mechanism
20:56 <epsy> what's this stupid useflag ?
21:02 <spidey> flags?
21:12 <spidey> why are you using pidgin on linux? :p
21:12 <spidey> i like kopete except that stupid blimp that pops up when someone im's you
21:12 <spidey> i'm in a game, doing well...fighting a tyrant ...i'm like "i about have it!" then "bam, denied by kopete"
21:12 <spidey> :(
21:13 <epsy> i like kopete except it's fucked up -.-
21:13 <spidey> ?
21:13 <epsy> can't connect to anything withj it
21:13 <spidey> o.O
21:14 <epsy> the little jabber and msn icons show up in the bottom of its window
21:14 <epsy> and then....
21:14 <epsy> nothing
21:24 <Lucifer_arma> yay, the only thing I have due on Monday that isn't done is reading
21:24 <Lucifer_arma> everything up until then is done, including the actual homework that's due on Monday
21:25 <Lucifer_arma> maybe I should go ahead and do the government homework
21:25 <spidey> lol
21:25 <spidey> trying to get ahead so we can pwn luke in freeciv?
21:25 <spidey> :p
21:26 <Lucifer_arma> I could read my statics textbook
21:26 <Lucifer_arma> heh, no late-night freeciv for me
21:26 <Lucifer_arma> I could theoretically play tonight from 7-8:30, but after that, well, the lab's going
21:26 <Lucifer_arma> the statics reading is what's due on monday, and that's largely optional
21:27 <Lucifer_arma> I could do the reading and then tear into the next set of homework problems, which is due a week from Monday
21:28 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, I'm going to reaffirm my recommendation that you pursue physics/engineering if you want to meet smart, hot women
21:28 <Lucifer_arma> there's two ladies in my statics class that are really hot, and the prereqs for the class are calc 2 and engineering physics 1
21:29 <Lucifer_arma> I know what I"ll do, I'd wash dishes :(
21:29 <Lucifer_arma> *I'll
21:29 <Lucifer_arma> *I'll * 2
21:30 <spidey> lol
21:31 <spidey> i like hot dumb chicks better
21:31 <spidey> they don't catch on aswell...
21:32 <spidey> luke-jr: would be so mad if he knew i was using binaries on....nvm
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21:59 <luke-jr> ...
22:01 <spidey> :p
22:06 <luke-jr> spidey is too retarded to open up Kopete's settings?
22:06 <luke-jr> or is Kopete too retarded to have the relevant settings?
22:07 <spidey> 24 of 26 packages emerging
22:07 <spidey> 'er
22:07 <spidey> 36*
22:07 <spidey> then i get to play with compiz fusion :D
22:09 <luke-jr> :p
22:11 <spidey> this hax guy annoys me!!!
22:20 <spidey> 5 more! :D
22:23 <GodTodd> those that think everyone else is retarded need to examine their own mental capacities...
22:25 <spidey> GodTodd: you're retarded
22:26 <GodTodd> sure thing luke-jrspidey :)
22:26 <spidey> xD
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23:30 <Lucifer_arma> man, hot dumb chicks are just annoying
23:30 <Lucifer_arma> and nothing kills a good boner more than an annoying woman
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23:36 <noob7> I think its the other way around... "man, smart ugly chicks are just annoying" - but well, opinions can differ I guess
23:37 <spidey> ...
23:38 <spidey> smart ugly chicks do your homework for you...
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23:54 <spidey> so
23:54 <spidey> sup, minions? :D
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00:18 <DrJoeTron> spidey are you going to play FF?
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04:42 <zeroLOGIK> Hey all
04:46 <zeroLOGIK> I'm a relatively new player, and I wanted to know what server would be good for me to practice with people on a similar level as me
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04:49 <Lucifer_arma> the only thing that bugs me about hibernate is that the network connection is broken
04:49 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: ping
04:55 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: pong
04:56 <Lucifer_arma> hey, when you're writing a book, and you set a word budget for words written in a day (or whatever), does that include backstory and notes and stuff that doesn't go in the book itself?
04:57 <GodTodd> for me? no...i only count actual words put down that i intend the reader to actually see
04:58 <Lucifer_arma> seems like it might be pretty hard to stick within that budget early on, when you're writing a lot of other crap ;)
04:58 <zeroLOGIK> I'm sorry if this is a noobish question, but I'd like to know what server would be good for a person who is relatively new to Armagetron
04:58 <Lucifer_arma> did you ever manage to find a good plaintext->rtf tool?  txt2tags doesn't have an rtf target, apparently
04:58 <Lucifer_arma> zeroLOGIK: just avoid the team servers and you should be fine
04:58 <GodTodd> that's because one of my word goals (i usually have 2 or 3 running daily word goals, weird system actually) is total words i aim for divided by number of days i aim to take
04:59 <Lucifer_arma> clan servers, also
04:59 <zeroLOGIK> Thanks for the info
04:59 <Lucifer_arma> zeroLOGIK: I saw your post on the forums, and I'll just respond here :)
04:59 <GodTodd> no...i'm still looking into all the different word type tools linux has :/
04:59 <Lucifer_arma> get used to getting pwned, it's a learning experience :)
04:59 <Lucifer_arma> just don't let is faze you
04:59 <Lucifer_arma> *it
05:00 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: ok.  I'm disappointed txt2tags doesn't have an rtf target ;(
05:00 <GodTodd> i'm actually surprised it doesn't
05:00 <GodTodd> speaking of word processing in linux...is there any "better" program than OO.o?
05:01 <GodTodd> obviously better is in quotes because it's a subjective term ;)
05:02 <GodTodd> and if you say DSTE, i'ma smack you with a fresh trout :P
05:02 <Lucifer_arma> heh
05:02 <Lucifer_arma> well, you know
05:02 <Lucifer_arma> seriously, I like KWord a lot
05:02 <Lucifer_arma> abiword is decent, but it's gnome
05:03 <GodTodd> is kword ms compatible?
05:03 <GodTodd> like can open .doc and save as .doc?
05:07 <Lucifer_arma> lyx is nice
05:07 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know if kword can work with .doc files
05:07 <Lucifer_arma> I suppose I could install it and see
05:07 <Lucifer_arma> the reason I use oo.o is exactly that, word .doc files :(
05:07 <Lucifer_arma> otherwise I'd have switched to LyX a long time ago
05:08 <Lucifer_arma> and I'm considering using it now, but I was wanting to just use Kate (because dste is a sucky word processor)
05:08 <zeroLOGIK> Meh, I played with OO.o but it seems overpowered like Word did
05:09 <GodTodd> does kate work well as a word processor?
05:10 <GodTodd> i mean...i use it for dev work and it'd be handy to use it for novels too...
05:11 <GodTodd> i'm trying to minimize the ram i use on a regular basis...since firefox has such a huge footprint :/
05:12 <luke-jr> so don't use crappy firefox
05:12 <Lucifer_arma> kate's decent as a word processor, it just only does text files
05:12 <luke-jr> Kate works as a word processor as long as you don't mind doing your HTML by hand
05:12 <Lucifer_arma> it does everything else you'd expect of a word processor
05:12 <Lucifer_arma> well, assuming you don't expect a word processor to be a miniature desktop publishing tool (MS Word)
05:12 <GodTodd> ummm for me word processing != html
05:12 <Lucifer_arma> if txt2tags had an rtf target, I'd be all over that
05:13 <Lucifer_arma> there's a latex->rtf converter I might try sometime
05:13 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, kword should reduce your memory footprint, and I'm installing it right now to see if they've got MS Word handling yet
05:13 <Lucifer_arma> kword has the advantage of integration with KDE, meaning a lot of it is already in memory when you start it :)
05:13  * GodTodd wonders what browser luke-jr uses...so he can avoid it like the plague
05:13 <Lucifer_arma> very snappy
05:13 <GodTodd> yeah...i was thinking that
05:14 <Lucifer_arma> well, try it
05:15 <GodTodd> i'm  getting it now
05:15 <Lucifer_arma> it'll open them, but I don't know how badly it might mangle them
05:15 <GodTodd> yeah
05:15 <GodTodd> i'll have to experiment
05:15 <Lucifer_arma> I'm going to just use it for now, I'm trying to write a book, and wasting time on tech decisions that are irrelevant
05:15 <GodTodd> and i've always got OO.o to fall back on for when i *have* to deal with .docs
05:15 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
05:15 <Lucifer_arma> you could convert the .docs to oo.o format, and I'll be kword opens those just fine
05:15 <GodTodd> like for shitty humanities class
05:16 <Lucifer_arma> well, do you have to email the documents?
05:16 <GodTodd> i have to send my game proposal to her as a .doc attachment
05:16 <Lucifer_arma> if you turn them in with paper, then it doesn't matter what you use :)
05:16 <GodTodd> yep
05:16 <GodTodd> i know
05:16 <Lucifer_arma> ask her to take rtf or pdf
05:16 <GodTodd> but she creams over email
05:16 <Lucifer_arma> I've found that teachers generally take whatever you send, as long as they can open it in word, and word has no problems with rtf
05:16 <GodTodd> she will take nothing but .doc and nothing with an incorrect subject line
05:17 <GodTodd> she's a dick
05:17 <Lucifer_arma> did you point out to her that she's requiring her users to submit to fascist corporate control?  ;)
05:17 <Lucifer_arma> s/users/students
05:17 <Lucifer_arma> send her a mangled .doc, and include a pdf attachment "just in case"
05:17 <GodTodd> i didn't bother...she didn't seem like she'd understand the immorality of it all ;)
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> if she objects to that, just tell her you don't use MS Word for idealistic reasons
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> and you think it's unreasonable yadayadayada
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> that's what I'd do, anyway, but I haven't had this problem yet
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> the only class I was required to use a closed source program (well, two) were classes that revolved around the programs
05:18 <GodTodd> nah...i'll probably just use OO.o for her shit
05:19 <Lucifer_arma> autocad and mathematica, which is a bit different than a word processor
05:19 <Lucifer_arma> not a place to dig in, anyway, not yet
05:19 <Lucifer_arma> but man, if an instructor tried to force me to use the word processor of his/her choice, I'd take it all the way up the chain until I either got satisfaction, or kicked out of school
05:19 <GodTodd> i got mathematica for free, myself ;)
05:20 <Lucifer_arma> I'm trying to get maxima under the awareness of as many instructors here as possible
05:20 <Lucifer_arma> they could teach maxima instead of mathematica, and reasonably expect students to be able to pick up mathematica easily
05:20 <GodTodd> very true
05:21 <Lucifer_arma> hell, a lot of kids go out and find Maple is what they need to know, and what they learned with mathematica they have to apply to maple
05:21 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, my ultimate target is to send the book to baen and see if they take it, assuming I can get it written before christmas
05:21 <Lucifer_arma> if not, then I'll drop the whole idea.  It's not worth it to spend more than that time on one story :)
05:22 <Lucifer_arma> (meaning if I don't have it finished before christmas, it means I don't have time to write a book ;)  )
05:22 <Lucifer_arma> and baen wants rtf with minimal formatting
05:22 <Lucifer_arma> autocad's a different story, though.  For the school to switch cad programs, the industry has to switch
05:23 <Lucifer_arma> I'm sure the school would be happy to teach an open source cad program if there were one in significant use
05:23 <GodTodd> probably
05:23 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, the other thing you can do is make an rtf file and give it a .doc extension before you send it to her
05:23 <Lucifer_arma> she'll never notice the difference
05:23 <Lucifer_arma> and how much fancy formatting could you do?
05:24 <GodTodd> true
05:24 <Lucifer_arma> you should test that, I've never done it, just heard about people doing it
05:24 <GodTodd> i'll have to
05:24 <GodTodd> that might be worth a try ;)
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> fuck it, I'm using txt2tags
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> I'll give it an rtf target when the time comes if I need it
05:26 <GodTodd> heh
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> it gives me way too much flexibility to mess around with it
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> I'm thinking things like writing in scenes and using a master include file to pull everything together
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> put each subplot in its own directory in separate files for each scene, etc.
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> store the wholet thing in a subversion repository
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> besides, I can probably do a basic xhtml output or html output and have oo.o convert it for me
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> then read the final product and make sure it's ready for submission :)
05:28 <GodTodd> probably
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> write a little script to collect all the comments from the files themselves, because then I can embed notes into the text
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, definitely worth it to just do it
05:29  * Lucifer_arma is stalling :)
05:30 <GodTodd> stalling never got a bbook written :P
05:30 <GodTodd> book*
05:31 <zeroLOGIK> Would Spacezone be a good server to join?
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> best way to find out is to join it
05:31 <zeroLOGIK> i see
05:40 <tramshed> luci
05:40 <tramshed> you around?
05:40 <tramshed> Lucifer_arma,
05:45 <tramshed> anyone?
06:08 <tramshed> hey wake up
06:08 <tramshed> I need to test my server
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> tramshed: can't help, sorry
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> no 3d acceleration = no arma
06:11 <tramshed> ah
06:11 <tramshed> suckage
06:11 <tramshed> why no 3d?
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> switched to ubuntu, and my vid chip is no longer supported in the newest nvidia drivers
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> so I have to work at it to get it working
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> and don't really feel like it ;)
06:12 <tramshed> hah
06:12 <tramshed> ubuntu ftl!
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> heh, if it's not one thing, it's the other, on this computer
06:12 <tramshed> lol
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> mandriva had no problems taking the nvidia driver, but had serious problems with wireless
06:12 <tramshed> im still a gentoo whore
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> I won't even talk about the problems I had getting gentoo up and running
06:13 <tramshed> [Linux 2.6.22-gentoo-r2 x86_64] [Gentoo Linux (stable)] [2 x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+ (AuthenticAMD) @ 3.01GHz] [Physical : 2.0GB, 38.2% free] [Total : 464.38GB, 62.60% Free] [nVidia Corporation G80 [GeForce 8800 GTS]] [HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia]
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> but it pretty much had every possible problem this laptop could give it
06:13 <tramshed> shoulda asked me
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> you were in jail
06:13 <tramshed> haha
06:13 <tramshed> oh
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> ubuntu's fine, it's very nice for everything else, and I can get 3d working, I just don't feel like it
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> on the whole, I'd have to say it's still easier than isntalling shrink-wrapped windows and waaaay more functional
06:14 <tramshed> I coulda sshd's in through the mail!
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> oem windows is a different story, it has all the stuff needed already, of course
06:15 <Lucifer_arma> but my next laptop will either be a tabletpc, a macbook (or whatever apple's got at the time), or a pre-loaded linux of some sort now that they're out
06:15 <tramshed> I had a bitch of a time puttin any linux on my laptop
06:15 <Lucifer_arma> (I'll put linux on the macbook, don't worry, it's just a nice piece of hardware)
06:15 <tramshed> it overheats anytime it compiles
06:15 <tramshed> im glad I got a real comptuer now
06:15 <tramshed> shitty
06:16 <tramshed> ignore that
06:16 <tramshed> wrong win
06:16 <Lucifer_arma> heh
06:17 <tramshed> hmm
06:17 <tramshed> does arma support ipv6?
06:18 <tramshed> im getting two World of hates in the server list
06:18 <tramshed> im wondering if its picking up both ips
06:18 <tramshed> my ipv4 and ipv6
06:18 <tramshed> since ive only got one server running
06:18 <tramshed> two different pings to boot
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> sure you've only got one running?
06:21 <tramshed> positive
06:22 <zeroLOGIK> I'm only getting one World of Hate here
06:23 <tramshed> ah
06:23 <tramshed> classic case of arma being weird
06:23 <tramshed> used to be I couldnt see it myself at all
06:23 <tramshed> now I see two
06:23 <tramshed> whats the ping?
06:23 <zeroLOGIK> 82 last refresh
06:24 <tramshed> thats not too bad
06:24 <zeroLOGIK> Is that server new guy friendly?
06:24 <tramshed> it would just be me and you
06:24 <tramshed> and id be testing
06:24 <tramshed> so yep
06:24 <zeroLOGIK> True enough
06:28 <tramshed> back up
06:28 <zeroLOGIK> Got'cha
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> man, what good's an alien race if you can't remember wtf to call them?
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> heh, race name: Cillano
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> member of the race: Cillanoid
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> slur: cylon
06:33 <tramshed> back agaibn
06:47 <zeroLOGIK> I'll prolly frequent your server in the future
06:47 <zeroLOGIK> I gotta sleep later all
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06:52 <Lucifer_arma> well, not much writing done, but I think the book's organized anyway
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08:04  * GodTodd is doing a footprint test with OO.o vs. KWord
08:21 <tramshed> heh
08:21 <tramshed> are you counting compile space?
08:24 <GodTodd> ram
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10:53 <spidey> lets say a program is already running
10:53 <spidey> is there a way i can inject something into it without a wrapper
10:53 <spidey> ?
10:56 <tramshed> hell if I know
10:56 <tramshed> depends on what you wanna do I guess
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11:01 <spidey> heh
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11:35 <eddiefantastic> hello
11:35 <eddiefantastic> anyone care to test a new server with me?
11:40 <eddiefantastic> totally new and exiting game mode ;)
11:40 <eddiefantastic> *exciting even
11:40 <spidey> ROFL
11:40 <spidey> Lucifer_arma: check out liquidwar
11:40 <spidey> is has network play, it's a funny weird game
11:41 <eddiefantastic> it's called Testing Rubbish if you fancy it
11:41 <spidey> i dun play tron no more :p
11:47 <eddiefantastic> a mazer like yourself would excel at this new and exciting game
11:48 <spidey> i doubt i can maze aswell anymore
11:48 <spidey> i'll install tron in a sec ;P
11:48 <spidey> emerging iMaze atm
11:50 <eddiefantastic> the server keeps crashing anyway
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12:02 <tramshed> lol
12:27 <Kyanos> Keeps crashing?
12:27 <Kyanos> I'm hosting a server too since two days ago...
12:27 <Kyanos> It's called Kyanos
12:27 <Kyanos> And it's a multi-mode server like Nano
12:28 <Kyanos> Although I only have Chrush Zone Mode and Trick Or Treat
12:28 <Kyanos> Trick Or Treat is where you drive trough your own walls to trick others (like Nano)
12:28 <Kyanos> And Crush Zone is where the rim is replaced by a circle of death zones that expand, so you end up being crushed xD
12:29 <eddiefantastic> interesting. drive through your own walls?
12:29 <Kyanos> Yes, it's the cycle_rubber_wall_shrink settings or something like that
12:30 <Kyanos> Extremely buggy if you don't know how it works...
12:30 <eddiefantastic> ah, ok
12:30 <Kyanos> it's a combination of configuring rubber, timebased, time, walls_length and wall_shrink
12:31 <Kyanos> not to have mentioned speed
12:31 <Kyanos> "Testing rubbish, nothing to see here"
12:31 <Kyanos> that's yours?
12:31 <eddiefantastic> it's not up is it?
12:31 <eddiefantastic> that is main, yes
12:32 <eddiefantastic> *mine
12:32 <Kyanos> I joined it, it crashed
12:33 <Kyanos> Or you disabled it before I joined. xD
12:33 <eddiefantastic> you want to try now, I'll bring it back up
12:33 <eddiefantastic> ?
12:33 <Kyanos> Yes
12:34 <eddiefantastic> ok, it's back up
12:34 <eddiefantastic> very buggy
12:34 <Kyanos> Two more mode ideas I have for my server: Rim Fight (Long Small Map where you try to outdig each other), Race Map (Race between walls and deathzones and get to a win zone)
12:36 <Kyanos> Your server doesn't work as it's supposed to be. :-(
12:37 <Kyanos> A win zone is green?
12:37 <eddiefantastic> ok, back up properly now
12:37 <eddiefantastic> not win zone, target zone
12:38 <Kyanos> ah
12:38 <Kyanos> coming back
12:45 <Kyanos> Nice server.
12:45 <eddiefantastic> it'sthanks
12:45 <eddiefantastic> needs work
13:00 <Kyanos> Same for my server
13:00 <Kyanos> Want to have lots of modes on it. xD
13:24 <DrJoeTron> :I
13:32 <Kyanos> Crazy Speed Mode ~ Extreme Madness!
13:32 <Kyanos> Train your response! Hit a key before you die...
13:32 <Kyanos> lolz xD
13:40 <DrJoeTron> uh?
13:45 <P4> #serverinfo Crazy Speed Mode
13:45 <armabot> P4: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “crazy speed mode” at the moment, sorry.
13:45 <Kyanos> lol
13:45 <Kyanos> it's other mode
13:45  * P4 is cookin' ;)
13:45 <Kyanos> #serverinfo kyanos
13:45 <armabot> Kyanos: Kyanos ~ Crush Zone Mode: No online players.
13:45 <P4> #serverinfo -v kyanos
13:45 <armabot> P4: Kyanos ~ Crush Zone Mode ( running win dedicated, url: http://www.armagetronad.net, Description: “Chrush Zone Mode ~ Death Zone Madness!Get points before you get crushed! Be the last to survive...Idea By: Kyanos“, No online players.
13:45 <P4> #tracert
13:45 <P4> :P
13:45 <P4> wher is this serer located?
13:46 <Kyanos> #tracert
13:46 <Kyanos> Belgium
13:46 <Kyanos> #help
13:46 <armabot> Kyanos: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
13:46 <Kyanos> #help serverinfo
13:46 <armabot> Kyanos: (serverinfo <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/serverdetails.php?name=@1+@2+@3+@4+@5+@6+@7+@8+@9".
13:46 <Kyanos> xD
13:47 <P4> do you host it on you own PC/link?
13:49 <Kyanos> It's a server next to my PC yes
13:50 <P4> ah, ok :)
13:50 <P4> also win32 ;P
13:50 <Kyanos> :)
13:51 <P4> do you rotate maps?
13:51 <Kyanos> you mean modes, not yet
13:51 <Kyanos> only have 3
13:51 <Kyanos> when I get like 10 I'll start rotating them
13:51 <Kyanos> like... 2 matches a mode and then next
13:52 <P4> ;)
13:52 <P4> gl
13:52 <Kyanos> Thank you
13:53 <P4> i poland if you sa thank you after gl it means sth like: thanks, i dont need luck ;)
13:53 <P4> in*
13:54 <Kyanos> :D
14:01 <Kyanos> lol, I bugged my server
14:03 <P4> means you're good tester
14:04 <Kyanos> oh
14:05 <Kyanos> I have to put the center right lolz
14:05 <Kyanos> I'm letting me spawn outside my map
14:05 <Kyanos> ellipse maker
14:07 <Kyanos> hmmz, now I spawn inside the zones xD
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14:16 <Kyanos> Ah, I found my mistake
14:16 <tramshed> life>
14:16 <tramshed> ?
14:17 <tramshed> BWAHAHAHA
14:17 <tramshed> dont mind me
14:17 <tramshed> I just found out im off tether
14:17 <tramshed> and am quite happy about it
14:22 <Kyanos> Finally fixed it. :)
14:23 <Kyanos> if you give center 0 0 it gives negative coordinates, but I made my map that it is from 0,0-500,500 xD
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14:24 <Kyanos> Next time I should use middle as 0,0 when making symmetric maps
14:24 <Kyanos> brb drink
14:30 <Kyanos> #serverinfo Kyanos
14:30 <armabot> Kyanos: Kyanos ~ Crush Zone Mode: No online players.
14:30 <Kyanos> #serverinfo High Rubber
14:30 <armabot> Kyanos: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “high rubber” at the moment, sorry.
14:31 <Kyanos> #serverinfo ID
14:31 <armabot> Kyanos: -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF): No online players.
14:31 <Kyanos> #serverinfo
14:31 <armabot> Kyanos: Usage: #serverdetails [-v] {name}
14:31 <Kyanos> #serverinfo *
14:31 <armabot> Kyanos: ~*SpeederS*~ Server: No online players.
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14:38 <Kyanos> I'm out
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15:03 <DrJoeTron> hey guys, come to World of Hate
15:03 <DrJoeTron> we need a field test
15:03 <DrJoeTron> /dev/null does at least
15:03 <DrJoeTron> #server info Word
15:03 <DrJoeTron> #server info World
15:03 <DrJoeTron> #serverinfo World
15:03 <armabot> DrJoeTron: World Of Hate - ish clone: Players (2/8): /dev/null, Dr Joe Tron
15:03 <DrJoeTron> fuck
15:04 <tramshed> lolz
15:05 <DrJoeTron> DO IT
15:11 <tramshed> hah
15:11 <tramshed> im done for now
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16:05 <Kyanos> #serverinfo Kyanos
16:05 <armabot> Kyanos: Kyanos ~ Crush Zone Mode: No online players.
16:05 <Kyanos> :-(
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16:27 <qxdtz> hi BugMr
16:31 <Kyanos> hmmz
16:31 <Kyanos> I've been looking for the rotation every round...
16:31 <Kyanos> every x matches*
16:32 <Kyanos> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=5731&highlight=sp+rotation
16:32 <Kyanos> I don't know if the author is here, but he makes a connection to the mysql every log line, what causes lots of lag... xD
16:45 <DrJoeTron> #serverinfo Shrunk
16:45 <armabot> DrJoeTron: Shrunkland in 2.8.2: Players (2/6): Freewheelin'59, Matakey
16:45 <DrJoeTron> hell yeah
16:46 <DrJoeTron> #lastseen Your_mom
16:46 <armabot> DrJoeTron: timed out
16:46 <DrJoeTron> #lastseen Your_Mom
16:46 <DrJoeTron> bull shit you've seen him
16:46 <armabot> DrJoeTron: timed out
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16:49 <Kyanos> #serverinfo Kyanos
16:49 <armabot> Kyanos: Kyanos ~ Crush Zone Mode: No online players.
16:50 <Kyanos> #lastseen Your_Mom
16:50 <armabot> Kyanos: your mom has last been seen on Fortress Café 2 days 14 hours 45 minutes ago.
16:50 <Kyanos> Yes, he've seen him... xD
16:50 <Kyanos> #lastseen Jupiter
16:50 <armabot> Kyanos: >LR<Jupiter has last been seen on -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < 2 days 17 hours 14 minutes ago.
16:51 <Kyanos> #lastseen Kyanos
16:51 <armabot> Kyanos: >LR< Kyanos has last been seen on Kyanos ~ Crush Zone Mode 2 hours 29 minutes ago.
16:51 <Kyanos> I'm going to figure out how armagetron logs under Windows (if it even does)
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17:13 <Kyanos> Ah, got the logging to work, rather simple. :)
17:16 <Kyanos> #serverinfo Kyanos
17:16 <armabot> Kyanos: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “kyanos” at the moment, sorry.
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17:33 <Kyanos> #serverinfo Kyanos
17:34 <armabot> Kyanos: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “kyanos” at the moment, sorry.
17:34 <Kyanos> #serverinfo Kyanos
17:34 <armabot> Kyanos: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “kyanos” at the moment, sorry.
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18:19 <Kyanos> Hmmz, I got my PHP so far to read a direct stream from armagetron_deticated.exe
18:19 <Kyanos> I found out that you also can do it in two directions
18:19 <Kyanos> So it can execute things event-based... xD
18:19 <Kyanos> gtg eat now
18:20 <Kyanos> brb
18:20 <Kyanos> #serverinfo -v Kyanos
18:21 <armabot> Kyanos: Kyanos ~ Crush Zone Mode ( running win dedicated, url: http://www.armagetronad.net, Description: “Chrush Zone Mode ~ Death Zone Madness!Get points before you get crushed! Be the last to survive...Idea By: Kyanos“, Players (1/10): >LR< Kyanos
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19:56 <Kyanos> ah lag :(
19:56 <spidey> poon
19:58 <spidey> so
19:58 <spidey> i have 2 blank cd's and a 120gb internal that 'was' a external
19:58  * spidey goes to play with other os's
19:59 <Kyanos> #lastseen nano
19:59 <armabot> Kyanos: |  nano  | has last been seen on Swampland II 1 minute ago.
20:00 <Kyanos> #lastseen nano
20:00 <armabot> Kyanos: |  nano  | has last been seen on Swampland II 1 minute ago.
20:00 <Kyanos> he is not there :/
20:00 <spidey> etch
20:00 <spidey> feisty
20:00 <spidey> or slackware...
20:03 <Kyanos> he is not there :/
20:03 <Kyanos> #lastseen nano
20:03 <armabot> Kyanos: |  nano  | has last been seen on Swampland II 4 minutes ago.
20:03 <Kyanos> lolz, pressed up
20:03 <Kyanos> #lastseen moo
20:03 <armabot> Kyanos: Moo Juice has last been seen on Swampland II 4 minutes ago.
20:04 <Kyanos> #lastseen rub
20:04 <armabot> Kyanos: rubik has last been seen on Kyanos ~ Trick Or Treat Mode 12 minutes ago.
20:04 <Kyanos> xD
20:04 <Kyanos> I'm out
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21:35 <xfroggy> epsy, server crashed Oo ?
21:37 <epsy> is arma subject to netsplits?
21:37 <epsy> xfroggy, no, me and others stayed
21:37 <xfroggy> bummer :/
21:37 <xfroggy> oh well bbl :D
21:38 <xfroggy> epsy, no :P
21:38 <epsy> that looked like one :p
21:38 <epsy> no
21:39 <epsy> xfroggy, no
21:39 <noob7> the same thing happened to me yesterday
21:40 <noob7> just when a nazi was spewing shit
21:40 <xfroggy> LOL
21:40 <noob7> me and a few others got disconnected, but the nazi and a couple other people stayed online
21:40 <xfroggy> nazi O_o ?
21:40 <noob7> really weird - thankfully the guy was still online when I got back on, so I was able to ban him
21:41 <noob7> nazi = right wing idiot ?
21:41 <epsy> LOL!
21:42 <xfroggy> lol
21:43 <epsy> wrtlprnft, help!
21:43 <noob7> #help
21:43 <armabot> noob7: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
21:44 <noob7> #help wrtlprnft help
21:44 <armabot> noob7: Error: There is no command "wrtlprnft help".
21:44 <noob7> :-/
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21:45 <epsy> #help wrtlprnft
21:45 <armabot> epsy: Error: There is no command "wrtlprnft".
21:45 <epsy> :D
21:47 <epsy> again?
21:57 <noob7> armabot: there SHOULD be!
21:58 <tramshed> #serverinfo World
21:58 <armabot> tramshed: .·´®`·)» $_TrEnT_$  NaNo  WoRlD: No online players.
21:58 <tramshed> #serverinfo World Of Hate
21:58 <armabot> tramshed: World Of Hate - ish clone: No online players.
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22:36 <beta_usa> Is there a way to have 2 game servers (on the same computer) with one bin ?
22:36 <beta_usa> Right now, to have 2 servers, i compile armagetron twice with two different PREFIX.
22:37 <beta_usa> But if i can do it without compliling everytime, this would be great.
22:41 <luke-jr> yes
22:42 <epsy> my insert key is dumb or what
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23:58 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
23:59 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 63°F / 17°C | Humidity: 77% | Pressure: 30.02in / 1016hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h | Updated: 6:00 PM ADT; Tonight - Cloudy periods. 40 percent chance of showers early this evening. Fog patches spreading inland. Wind southwest 30 km/h (19 mph) becoming light this evening. Low 15C(59F).; Saturday - Clearing early in the (2 more messages)
23:59 <Vanhayes> #more
23:59 <armabot> Vanhayes: morning. Fog patches retreating to the coast late in the morning. Wind becoming southwest 20 km/h (12 mph) late in the morning. High 22C(72F) except 28C(82F) inland. UV index 6 or high. Saturday night cloudy. A few showers beginning in the evening. Risk of a thundershower. Amount 2 to 4 mm(0.1 to 0.2 in). Wind southwest 20 km/h (12 mph) becoming light in the evening. Low 15C(59F).; Sunday - (1 more message)
23:59 <Vanhayes> #more
23:59 <armabot> Vanhayes: Cloudy with 40 percent chance of showers. High 21C(70F).;

Log from 2007-09-08:
--- Day changed Sat Sep 08 2007
00:08 <beta_usa> #lastseen player_2
00:08 <armabot> beta_usa: Player 2 has last been seen on "USA CLAN" European CAPTURE THE FLAG server 4 minutes ago.
00:09 <beta_usa> #lastseen player_2
00:09 <armabot> beta_usa: Player 2 has last been seen on "USA CLAN" European CAPTURE THE FLAG server 5 minutes ago.
00:09 -!- beta_usa [n=theo@theo.is-a-geek.org] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
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00:35 <wrtlprnft> #later tell epsy Error: "help!" is not a valid command.
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00:55 <wrtlprnft> INFO 2007-09-08T00:58:13 Total uptime: 5 weeks, 5 days, 6 hours, 22 minutes, and 14 seconds.
00:55 <wrtlprnft> INFO 2007-09-08T00:58:13 Total CPU time taken: 189779.12 seconds.
00:55 <wrtlprnft> supybot sucks.
00:55 <Lucifer_arma> Uptime: 22 hours and 5 minutes
00:56 <Lucifer_arma> awww, it's because I didn't hibernate it when I went to work yesterday
00:56 <Lucifer_arma> I shut it down
00:56 <Lucifer_arma> I'll remember to hibernate it next time
00:56 <wrtlprnft> that's 2.19 days of CPU time
00:56 <Lucifer_arma> I'd say get a different bot, but I know of no other that's as flexible as supybot
00:56 <wrtlprnft> or 5.5% x_X
00:57 <Lucifer_arma> in fact, I went looking for a different bot when I still had armabot to try to cut down cpu time used by an irc bot
00:57 <wrtlprnft> the cpu time isn't the biggest problem, though
00:57 <wrtlprnft> it leaks like hell
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00:57 <Lucifer_arma> use the ol' arma cure for memory leaks and have her automatically restart regularly :)
00:58 <wrtlprnft> x_X
00:58 <wrtlprnft> then people will complain about #last not working
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00:58 <wrtlprnft> #ping
00:59 <wrtlprnft> #later tell epsy Error: "help!" is not a valid command.
00:59 <armabot> pong
00:59 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
00:59 <Lucifer_arma> there could be a causal relationship between people complaining about #last not working and the amount of memory armabot uses
00:59 <wrtlprnft> #config
00:59 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (config <name> [<value>]) -- If <value> is given, sets the value of <name> to <value>. Otherwise, returns the current value of <name>. You may omit the leading "supybot." in the name if you so choose.
00:59 <Lucifer_arma> maybe #last should be rewritten to search the logs instead of keeping all that crap in memory :)
01:00 <wrtlprnft> #config last
01:00 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: 'supybot.last' is not a valid configuration variable.
01:00 <luke-jr> lol
01:00 <Lucifer_arma> now, how do I tell either txt2tags or latex2rtf to indent every paragraph?
01:00  * wrtlprnft is clueless
01:03 <wrtlprnft> #night
01:03 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
01:03 <wrtlprnft> f**ing jetlag
01:20 <tramshed> djklfhasjkldfasdflkjaeijf;lakj
01:20 <tramshed> #serverinfo World Of Hate
01:20 <armabot> tramshed: World Of Hate - ish clone: No online players.
01:20 <tramshed> fuckers!
01:20 <tramshed> use it!
01:49 <Lucifer_arma> tramshed: nobody knows what ish is anymore
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04:35 <tramshed> #serverinfo World Of Hate
04:35 <armabot> tramshed: World Of Hate - ish clone: Players (2/8): Royal pimp, UBER NOOB
04:53 <tramshed> #serverinfo World Of Hate
04:53 <armabot> tramshed: World Of Hate - ish clone: No online players.
04:58 <luke-jr> haha
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05:46 <zeroLOGIK> Anybody wanna play me on World of Hate?
05:55 <tramshed> TROLL!
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06:27 <spidey> Lucifer_arma: luke-jr: ping
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> no freeciv
06:27 <spidey> not civ :p
06:27 <spidey> it's about grub
06:28 <spidey> i have debian installed at /dev/hdb2, so i tried kernel /boot/linux/bzImage root=/dev/hdb2
06:28 <spidey> but it says it's wrong =/
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> grub uses a different reference for devices
06:29 <spidey> O.o
06:30 <spidey> that's how it is for booting gentoo, except /dev/hda2
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> ah, you need to give a root
06:31  * Lucifer_arma is looking at grub docs
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> I haven't done grub by hand in awhile
06:31 <spidey> ? i did, i think
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> pastebin the whole entry
06:33 <spidey> ugh
06:35 <spidey> i would, but i have no clue how to get them :)
06:35 <spidey> and this manual confuses me :D
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm not playing 20 questions, and your line depends on other lines that should be there
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> there are grub how-tos that are easier to read than the grub manual
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06:53 <beta_usa> stupid connection.
06:54 <beta_usa> wrtlprnft: you are an MBC member ?
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07:04 <wrtlprnft> #ping
07:04 <armabot> pong
07:04 <wrtlprnft> beta_usa: yeah
07:04 <wrtlprnft> zeroLOGIK: did you get disconnected?
07:05 <zeroLOGIK> yeah
07:05 <wrtlprnft> hmm
07:05 <wrtlprnft> #later tell tramshed your server just went down… Anyways, it's fun if there's people on it :)
07:05 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
07:06 <zeroLOGIK> What's Swampland like?
07:07 <wrtlprnft> anyways, i think i'll go to bed… too tired
07:07 <wrtlprnft> just try it out
07:07 <wrtlprnft> another low- rubber, old school server
07:07 <zeroLOGIK> hmm...have a good sleep, great games
07:08 <wrtlprnft> thanks, good luck
07:08 <wrtlprnft> you're not a noticable newbie, by the way
07:09 <wrtlprnft> when i met you on the server i put you in the “been playing for about a month, knows the basic concepts and all, just needs to practice” category
07:11 <zeroLOGIK> I played about a year ago, but only breifly. I've only been playing for the past three days, so I though I was newbieish
07:12 <wrtlprnft> not really
07:12 <wrtlprnft> not the annoying kind of newbie, anyways :D
07:12 <zeroLOGIK> lol, ty
07:12 <wrtlprnft> the OMG WTF HOW DO I WRITE IN COLOR ALL THE TIME!!!
07:12 <wrtlprnft> kind
07:13 <zeroLOGIK> Color is kinda useless
07:13 <zeroLOGIK> Plus the font looks better white anyways
07:13 <wrtlprnft> there's uses in teamplay, but that's about it
07:13 <zeroLOGIK> ah, ic
07:13 <wrtlprnft> but people overdo even that
07:14 <wrtlprnft> you shouldn't have too much trouble with fortress, try it someday if you like
07:14 <zeroLOGIK> I'll eventually have to
07:14 <wrtlprnft> and if they kick you, just wait a while and come back
07:16 <wrtlprnft> i've been kicked from fortress quite a few times, usually because some idiot thought i teamkilled them on purpose
07:16 <zeroLOGIK> ic
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07:16 <zeroLOGIK> like your sig in the forums btw
07:16 <zeroLOGIK> Hey spidey
07:16 <wrtlprnft> people have other things to do on a fortress server than to follow little fights and see if a kick poll is reasonable, so they just vote yes
07:16 <spidey> hi
07:16 <wrtlprnft> thanks :D
07:23 <zeroLOGIK> I went on Spacezone my first time, and it was like "omg how are they doing all the tight grinding". Now I realize it was combo of lag and high rubber
07:24 <wrtlprnft> really good night now.
07:24 <beta_usa> wrtlprnft: cool it's a nice clan. Just i didn't see you on the forum so i didn't think you were part of.
07:24 <zeroLOGIK> Yeah, I gotta head off now, got a few other things I gotta do atm. See you guys later
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07:25 <wrtlprnft> beta_usa: i'm not too active in it
07:25 -!- spidey [n=spidey@unaffiliated/mcspiddles] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
07:26 <wrtlprnft> which is quite an understatement
07:26 <beta_usa> You're just playing with the tag ?
07:26 <wrtlprnft> if i'm playing at all :D
07:27 <beta_usa> I haven't see you before it's just that I saw someone i saw on the chan + the MBC tag. And i though "great".
07:27 <beta_usa> And that's all :p
07:27 <beta_usa> Yeah i didn't see you playing before, but i'm not playing often regular tron.
07:28 <beta_usa> I'm more a ctf / forteress player.
07:29 <wrtlprnft> me too
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07:30  * wrtlprnft falls into bed.
07:31 <beta_usa> good night.
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08:01 <MrBougo> hello
08:09 <beta_usa> hi
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08:32 <MrBougo> hiho tramshed
08:32 <tramshed> harhar
08:33 <tramshed> server went down cuz I rebooted into winders
08:33 <tramshed> sorry
08:33 <tramshed> wont happen when I get another box
08:44 <MrBougo> what serv?
08:44 <MrBougo> oh this one right
08:44 <MrBougo> no problem oO
08:44 <tramshed> world of hate
08:44 <MrBougo> oh
08:45 <tramshed> it goes down when I use windows for now
08:45 <MrBougo> thought that you were talkin about your web server
08:45 <tramshed> no more than a motnth and it should be fixed
08:45 <tramshed> my webs erver too
08:45 <tramshed> everything is running off this vox
08:45 <tramshed> its the only one I have
08:45 <MrBougo> oh ok
08:45 <MrBougo> np i dont need it atm
08:45 <tramshed> ill update it eventually
08:46 <tramshed> so it has tron stats on it
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13:03 <Kyanos> #serverinfo Kyanos
13:03 <armabot> Kyanos: Kyanos ~ Crush Zone Mode: No online players.
13:03 <Kyanos> hmmz, would a server run fine with 5 out_rate?
13:03 <Kyanos> In manual it says 4 causes lag at start at round, so I suppose 5 is fine?
13:09 -!- deja_vu [n=deja_vu@Q2cca.q.pppool.de] has joined #armagetron
14:46 <Kyanos> Oh cool...
14:46 <Kyanos> My server gives a new mode each match... xD
15:03  * kidanger part quelques minutes
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15:15 <Kyanos> #serverinfo Kyanos
15:15 <armabot> Kyanos: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “kyanos” at the moment, sorry.
15:15 <Kyanos> :/ There is
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15:25 <Kyanos> #lastseen nano
15:26 <armabot> Kyanos: | nano | has last been seen on New! Swampland in 15 hours 38 minutes ago.
15:26 <Kyanos> #serverinfo -v Kyanos
15:26 <armabot> Kyanos: Kyanos ~ Trick Or Treat Mode ( running win dedicated, Description: “Trick Or Treat Mode ~ Tail Madness!Trick your enemies by driving trough your own tail... Don't get treated!Idea By: Nano“, Players (6/8): =EE= bloodyfang, >LR< Kyanos, francesco, Moo Juice, one, SC|Stealth
15:32 <Kyanos> #serverinfo nano
15:32 <armabot> Kyanos: .·´®`·)» $_TrEnT_$  NaNo  WoRlD: No online players.
15:32 <Kyanos> #serverinfo -v nano
15:32 <armabot> Kyanos: .·´®`·)» $_TrEnT_$  NaNo  WoRlD ( running win dedicated, url: WWW.durkadurkaland.com/trent, Description: “All settings at default values.“, No online players.
15:32 <Kyanos> not that one :S
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15:41 <Kyanos> #serverinfo -v nano
15:41 <armabot> Kyanos: .·´®`·)» $_TrEnT_$  NaNo  WoRlD ( running win dedicated, url: WWW.durkadurkaland.com/trent, Description: “All settings at default values.“, No online players.
15:41 <Kyanos> #lastseen nano
15:41 <armabot> Kyanos: | nano | has last been seen on New! Swampland in 15 hours 53 minutes ago.
15:41 <MrBougo> hiho
15:42 <Kyanos> hi
15:42 <Kyanos> #serverinfo -v Kyanos
15:42 <armabot> Kyanos: Kyanos ~ Crush Zone Mode ( running win dedicated, url: http://www.armagetronad.net, Description: “Chrush Zone Mode ~ Death Zone Madness!Get points before you get crushed! Be the last to survive...Idea By: Kyanos“, Players (4/8): >LR< Kyanos, BLOODY COUGAR, Felipe Massa, kain111
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16:43 <beta_usa> I hate the players that starts every chat with "SAYS".
16:43 <beta_usa> Not even /me, just SAYS... "SAYS wd" "SAYS XD"...
17:00 <qxdtz> example: SaYS -> naab
17:00 <qxdtz> ?
17:02 <beta_usa> oui
17:02 <beta_usa> yes
17:02 <beta_usa> like if i said this in IRC
17:03 <beta_usa> SAYS hi #armagetron
17:03 <beta_usa> SAYS how are you ?
17:03 <beta_usa> SAYS I'm back
17:03 <beta_usa> And not
17:03  * beta_usa SAYS hey
17:15 <qxdtz> yes
17:15 <qxdtz>  /me says -> die beta_usa
17:15 <qxdtz> :D
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17:38 -!- gf is now known as kidanger
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17:52 <qxdtz>  /me says -> die epsy
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17:58  * beta_usa doesn't want to die qxdtz :/
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18:07  * Kyanos says lolz
18:24 <Kyanos> #serverinfo -v Kyanos
18:24 <armabot> Kyanos: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “kyanos” at the moment, sorry.
18:24 <Kyanos> #serverinfo -v Kyanos
18:24 <armabot> Kyanos: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “kyanos” at the moment, sorry.
18:25 <Kyanos> #serverinfo -v Kyanos
18:25 <armabot> Kyanos: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “kyanos” at the moment, sorry.
18:25 <Kyanos> :(
18:25 <Kyanos> ah
18:25 <Kyanos> #serverinfo -v Kyanos
18:25 <armabot> Kyanos: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “kyanos” at the moment, sorry.
18:25 <Kyanos> wtf
18:26 <Kyanos> #serverinfo -v Kyanos
18:26 <armabot> Kyanos: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “kyanos” at the moment, sorry.
18:27 <Kyanos> #serverinfo -v Kyanos
18:27 <armabot> Kyanos: Kyanos ~ Crush Zone Mode ( running win dedicated, url: http://www.armagetronad.net, Description: “Chrush Zone Mode ~ Death Zone Madness!Get points before you get crushed! Be the last to survive...Idea By: Kyanos“, No online players.
18:27 <Kyanos> wd bot xD
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20:10 <MrBougo> night
20:10 <MrBougo> hiho Vanhayes
20:10 <MrBougo> oh thats a pretty late welcome
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20:26 <beta_usa> #serverinfo -v USA
20:26 <armabot> beta_usa: "USA CLAN" European CAPTURE THE FLAG server ( running 0.2.8_alpha20070814 unix dedic, url: http://www.armagetronad.net, Description: “All settings at default values.“, Players (6/14): #~crosses~#, Diamond, Monkey, pita C&T, Rusty, Shadow{USA}
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20:54 <Lucifer_arma> hey, can someone send me an email?
20:55  * Lucifer_arma hasn't gotten any in days and is wondering if he's receiving all his email
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21:22 <jawee_> hey
21:22 <jawee_> is there any way to use a joystick with armagetron?
21:22 <jawee_> I'm on Kubuntu if that matters
21:31 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: address?
21:32 <wrtlprnft> the one on your site?
21:33 <wrtlprnft> done.
21:33 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, the one on my site, thanks
21:34 <wrtlprnft> yw
21:35 <Lucifer_arma> got it, thanks
21:35 <Lucifer_arma> apparently kmail had stopped interval checking, probably a side effect of the hibernation
21:36 <wrtlprnft> your side effects are probably still less annoying than mine
21:37 <wrtlprnft> killing kicker, amarok and everything else that might use alsa
21:40 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, that stuff all comes back just fine :)
21:41 <Lucifer_arma> look on the bright side, though
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21:41 <Lucifer_arma> this is the very first time a Linux OS has successfully hibernated, and the few rough edges when it comes back are bearable
21:41 <Lucifer_arma> for me, on my laptop, that is
21:42 <Lucifer_arma> there's still the problem where the display is all garbaged up, and there's a fix if I bother to dig it up
21:42 <Lucifer_arma> so I guess I can finally enroll my laptop in the uptime pissing contest that goes on here ;)
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21:46 <beta_usa> wrtlprnft: fuser and lsof might help you.
21:46 <beta_usa> I also have trouble with hibernation Lucifer_arma :/
22:09 <wrtlprnft> beta_usa: well, the killing is by design
22:09 <wrtlprnft> i need to unload the alsa module or the sound won't come back
22:09 <beta_usa> o
22:10 <beta_usa> Nice feature :)
22:10 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma:
22:10 <wrtlprnft>  22:10:12 up 237 days, 11:18,  6 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
22:10 <wrtlprnft> good luck.
22:10 <Lucifer_arma> Uptime: 1 days, 19 hours and 20 minutes
22:11  * wrtlprnft hates kernel updates
22:15  * Lucifer_arma just did a kernel update a couple of days ago
22:16 <Lucifer_arma> well, the day I learned I could extend my uptime by hibernating instead of shutting down when I'm just moving the machine from one place to another
22:24 <spidey_> ahah!
22:25 <spidey_> copied the debin kernels to /boot on the geentoo partition, booted with those kernels and root=/dev/hdb2
22:25 <wrtlprnft> that's the spirit of gentoo.
22:26 <spidey_> i dunno why
22:26 <spidey_> but grub didn't detect the second harddrive
22:26 <spidey_> =/
22:31 <beta_usa> hd1,0 ?
22:31 <spidey_> hd1,1
22:31 <spidey_> second drive second partition
22:31 <spidey_> :p
23:02 <tramshed> hmm
23:02 <tramshed> is it in a logical parition?
23:03 <tramshed> if so it might be 0,3
23:03 <tramshed> err
23:03 <tramshed> 0,2
23:03 <tramshed> oh wait
23:03 <tramshed> second hd
23:03 <tramshed> I suck
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23:38 <Lucifer_arma> yep
23:54 <Lucifer_arma> grrr, how do I get latex to indent the first line of every paragraph?

Log from 2007-09-09:
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00:00 <Lucifer_arma> oh good
00:00 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: ping
00:12 <luke-jr> GRUB depends on the BIOS supporting the hard drive
00:12 <luke-jr> so maybe the 2nd drive is too big for his BIOS
00:12 <luke-jr> Linux can just ignore that cuz it has drivers for the IDE chipset itself, but GRUB doesn't
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01:01 <qxdtz> luke-jr, bad
01:01 <qxdtz> paypa
01:01 <qxdtz> y
01:07 <spidey> ...
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01:46 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: pong
01:46 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: I've got some txt2tags stuff that make writing papers pretty easy
01:46 <Lucifer_arma> you have to output to latex and then convert to pdf for printing, which isn't a big deal, but you get the right margins, double-spacing, and indents.
01:47 <GodTodd> hmmm sounds cool
01:47 <Lucifer_arma> also a title page :)
01:47 <Lucifer_arma> the latex2rtf converter doesn't seem to honor everything, but it was uninstalled when I installed some other tex packages, so I don't know if it'll help you for that humanities class
01:47 <Lucifer_arma> but it can help you for other classes.  :)
01:49 <GodTodd> i'll have to get it and mess with it ;) (only have two classes where i have to write anything and one's humanities and the other is just one page a week)
01:50 <Lucifer_arma> well, I've had to write a few papers, and am frustrated that I have to use regular word processors to do it
01:50 <Lucifer_arma> since deep down inside I hate regular word processors :)
01:56 <Lucifer_arma> when I finish this paper, I'll put the txt2tags file and the pdf somewhere for you to see so you can see what it looks like.
01:57 <Lucifer_arma> It should be possible to extend via filters so that a bibliography can be kept for research papers.
02:03 <Lucifer_arma> you'll get a laugh out of the paper, because it's on the Cask of Amontillado, and I took the same stance this time as I did back in high school :)
02:15 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.davefancella.com/amontillado.tar.gz
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03:50 <Vanhayes> Lucifer_arma: luke-jr GodTodd spidey anyone, want to play a game of civ tonight?
03:52 <luke-jr> no way
03:52 <luke-jr> far too little time to prepare for Tuesday
03:53 <Vanhayes> whats tuesday?
03:53 <Lucifer_arma> haha, no
03:54 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: Mr. Bush kills more people, maybe
03:54 <Vanhayes> is he invading some place?
03:55 <luke-jr> no, I mean Americans
03:55 <Vanhayes> he is invading america?
03:55 <luke-jr> he'll blame it on "terrorists", I'm sure
03:55 <luke-jr> and it's only maybe
03:56 <luke-jr> and might be Friday and not Tuesday
03:56 <Vanhayes> uh, what are you talking about?
03:56 <luke-jr> like the last time
03:56 <luke-jr> Tuesday, but 2001
03:56 <luke-jr> pretty much the same thing, except it will be bigger this time, if it happens
03:56 <Lucifer_arma> #last --from luke-jr --nolimit
03:57 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: [04:02:35] <luke-jr> pretty much the same thing, except it will be bigger this time, if it happens, [04:02:23] <luke-jr> Tuesday, but 2001, [04:02:13] <luke-jr> like the last time, [04:01:52] <luke-jr> and might be Friday and not Tuesday, [04:01:43] <luke-jr> and it's only maybe, [04:01:39] <luke-jr> he'll blame it on "terrorists", I'm sure, [04:00:54] <luke-jr> no, I mean Americans, (2 more messages)
03:57 <Vanhayes> I doubt anyone is going to bomb on september 11 again
03:57 <Lucifer_arma> more of luke's paranoid bullshit?
03:57 <Lucifer_arma> what are the zionists going to do to us this time?
03:58 <Lucifer_arma> #more
03:58 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: [04:00:05] <luke-jr> Vanhayes: Mr. Bush kills more people, maybe, [03:58:27] <luke-jr> far too little time to prepare for Tuesday, [03:58:18] <luke-jr> no way, [00:18:26] <luke-jr> Linux can just ignore that cuz it has drivers for the IDE chipset itself, but GRUB doesn't, [00:18:04] <luke-jr> so maybe the 2nd drive is too big for his BIOS, [00:17:54] <luke-jr> GRUB depends on the BIOS (1 more message)
03:58 <Vanhayes> luke-jr: uh where is this info coming from, or are you just guessing?
03:58 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: unverifable sources, hence "maybe"
03:58 <Lucifer_arma> [21:04] <Lucifer_arma> more of luke's paranoid bullshit
03:59 <luke-jr> but I wouldn't have access to anything verifiable whether it is real or not
03:59 <luke-jr> so I'm not taking any chances I don't need to
04:00 <luke-jr> and Bush certainly has a motive
04:00 <luke-jr> he needs support to invade Iran
04:02 <Vanhayes> no point trying to invade when he only has a year or so left in office
04:04 <Lucifer_arma> well, according to luke's theories, that would give him what he needed to unilaterally change the constitution to allow him to stay in office permanently
04:05 <Lucifer_arma> where he got the brain to pull that off is beyond my capacity to determine, and his puppetmasters can just put someone in his place anyway, so it's not even practical
04:05 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: Bush is in a club with every potential presidential candidate
04:06 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: he's playing dumb
04:07 <Vanhayes> huh? you mean that every potential presidential candidate would go along with a terrorist attack so that they could invade iran?
04:08 <Vanhayes> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6985086.stm  thats about all I found/looked for in the news
04:09  * Lucifer_arma points to the invasion of Iraq: we don't need a terrorist attack
04:10 <Lucifer_arma> and the administration was blindsided by the ones we did get (even if they should have known about it, see my previous comment about brains)
04:10 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: yes
04:10 <luke-jr> Iraq didn't have nukes
04:11 <Vanhayes> wow to believe every one of my countries' potential leaders were that corrupt and crazy would take alot
04:13 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: the illusion of choice is a powerful weapon
04:13 <luke-jr> it keeps the stupid people from even thinking about a rebellion
04:14 <Lucifer_arma> if absolute power corrupts absolutely, it stands to reason that potential power must corrupt potentially
04:14 <Vanhayes> well, im not saying some wouldn't do it,( not saying some would either) im just saying that to think everyone of the candidates are that corrupt is crazy
04:14 <Lucifer_arma> the real question, the one that matters, is what does kinetic power do?
04:15 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: every one of the *real* candidates is
04:15 <luke-jr> and not crazy, evil
04:15 <luke-jr> third parties have no chance in the uS
04:15 <luke-jr> US*
04:16 <luke-jr> even if they got enough votes, the system is rigged so the ruling party can hide it
04:17 <Vanhayes> no im saying believing that is crazy, doing what you you think they would do is evil
04:19 <Vanhayes> luke-jr: so im guessing you want a rebelion?
04:19 <Vanhayes> btw do you vote?
04:24 <Lucifer_arma> yay!  Revolution!
04:24 <Lucifer_arma> Extreme programming finally comes to political science!
04:24  * Lucifer_arma thinks we should rewrite the constitution along extreme programming guidelines
04:25 <Lucifer_arma> we'd have a pluggable court system, a plugin system for legislative bodies, etc.
04:25 <Lucifer_arma> so we could easily modify the actual structures of government in place, and in session, without having to touch the constitution
04:27 <Lucifer_arma> we'd regularly refactor our laws, so they'd always stay updated
04:27 <Lucifer_arma> no need to have periodic revolutions (which we have had, revolution doesn't require changing the constitution)
04:27 <Lucifer_arma> #monologue
04:27 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Your current monologue is at least 8 lines long.
04:28 <Lucifer_arma> we'd also write the whole constitution in 2020's writing style
04:28 <Lucifer_arma> that would stop the damn conservatives from even reading it
04:28 <Lucifer_arma> letting us tell them what they can and can't do, and doing the interpretation of it
04:28 <Lucifer_arma> #monologue
04:28 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Your current monologue is at least 12 lines long.
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04:47 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: I wouldn't oppose a rebellion
04:59  * GodTodd notes that if we ever got a leader that pleased luke-jr, i'd ask Vanhayes if my family could move in with him...
04:59 <GodTodd> :)
05:10 <Lucifer_arma> I'm just a hunka hunka burning love
05:12 <GodTodd> you're definitely a hunka *some*thing ;)
05:12 <Lucifer_arma> burning love, it's called burning love
05:13 <GodTodd> doesn't *smell* like burning love
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> yes it does
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> I think I'm going to edit my paper and go ahead and finish it up
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> I'm a little stumped on the chem advanced study assignment, and it's not due until a week from friday (coming friday, not yesterday)
05:32 <GodTodd> i have a game proposal due tues., a weekly summary report due wed. and physics assignment due thurs. (java isn't due until a week from this coming mon.)
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> poor you :)
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> if I finish this paper tonight, I'll be nearly a week ahead everywhere
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> until the weekend, of course, when I'll get more assignments
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> hm, and statics, I need to start the next homework already
05:43 <GodTodd> being ahead usually means you're forgetting an assignment ;)
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06:04 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: good point, but as slow as all of my classes are going....
06:04 <GodTodd> for now...
06:04 <GodTodd> :)
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07:01 <Lucifer_arma> I think I'm spending a lot more time at home without shoes now that I'm doing a shoeless workout
07:04 <GodTodd> i have a barefoot family...we don't put shoes on unless we're going somewhere
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> I mostly do, too, but after having stepped on numerous unnamed squishy things over the years, I started wearing shoes in the house
07:07 <GodTodd> heh
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> hopefully this will break that habit, since my wife prefers us l to be barefoot, and I really don't like wearing shoes anyway
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> *all
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> I just had my only opportunity today to do a workout, even as late as it is, and I have to say I kind of like doing it at night
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> hopefully it won't keep me up tonight, though
07:08 <GodTodd> :)
07:09 <Lucifer_arma> my wife doesn't want me practicing with the stick in front of the youngest, because he might/will model what he sees
07:09 <Lucifer_arma> which might make it tricky to get in a workout on the weekend :/
07:09 <GodTodd> understandable
07:09 <Lucifer_arma> during the week, it's no problem, since he's at school from 11:30-3
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> I think I exaggerated the fact that I'm a week ahead in most of my classes
07:10 <GodTodd> i'm sure of it ;)
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> really all I am is mostly finished with everything that's due this week, but there are things due next week that I need to be starting soon
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> and I'll get a new assignment tomorrow in my speech class that'll be due the following sunday
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> the following monday is a due date for statics homework that's sure to suck, it's forces in three dimensions
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> hey, did you look at that amontillado paper?
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07:34  * Lucifer_arma throws a shoe at tramshed
07:34 <Lucifer_arma> ok, this paper is finished
07:34 <Lucifer_arma> no use wasting any more time on it
07:34 <tramshed> hah
07:46 <MrBougo> hello
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> You should start a search engine called MrBoooooooooooooooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugle
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08:08 <luke-jr> http://www.bash.org/?127272
08:21 <GodTodd> lame
08:21 <MrBougo> Lucifer_arma: search engine agreed
08:22 <MrBougo> lol luke-jr
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08:30 <luke-jr> ○_○
08:39 <MrBougo> ?
08:41 <luke-jr> ♥
09:01 <MrBougo> ..
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09:41 <MrBougo> i'm phreaking bored
09:56 <MrBougo> bye
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10:40 <Kyanos> #serverinfo -v Kyanos
10:40 <armabot> Kyanos: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “kyanos” at the moment, sorry.
10:40 <Kyanos> Oh
10:48 <Kyanos> #serverinfo -v Kyanos
10:48 <armabot> Kyanos: Kyanos ~ Crush Zone Mode ( running win dedicated, url: http://www.armagetronad.net, Description: “Chrush Zone Mode ~ Death Zone Madness!Get points before you get crushed! Be the last to survive...Idea By: Kyanos“, No online players.
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10:49 <spidey> OMG
10:49 <spidey> TUESDAY
10:49 <spidey> WE ALL DIE
10:49 <spidey> :<
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14:32 <DrJoeTron> hey heres a stupid question
14:33 <DrJoeTron> would anyone care if i took down lobster cage and hosted the tub?
14:33 <DrJoeTron> because i forgot that tub was actually kinda good
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15:21 <Kyanos> #serverinfo -v Kyanos
15:21 <armabot> Kyanos: Kyanos ~ Sumo Mode ( running win dedicated, Description: “Sumo Mode ~ Zone Madness!Is it my zone? No, it's yours.Idea By: Kyanos“, No online players.
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17:14 <epsy> #tea
17:14 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (7/32): Bip, Durka, Ossi, Speedy, ~*SP*~freaky, ¦bonnectionsuצ, °°@shitakA
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18:08 <beta_USA> Hi
18:08 <beta_USA> i there a way to make changes in a running game ?
18:09 <beta_USA> I mean without playing and being loged in.
18:09 <beta_USA> Right now i write something in everytime.cfg, but it only applies at the end of the round.
18:09 <beta_USA> i'd like to apply changes as soon as my scripts got the informations
18:24  * beta_USA feels alone ^^
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18:55 <mixnetwork> hi all
18:55 <mixnetwork> somebody there?
18:59 <beta_USA> hi
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19:03 <mixnetwork> could you tell me how to increase the size of the zones in a sumo server?
19:04 <mixnetwork> or somebody
19:04 <Kyanos> #tea
19:04 <armabot> Kyanos: Fortress Café: Players (8/32): CT|SteeleR, Mac&Cheese{USA}, Player 1 2.0|T|, rugkei<@>, TIRIP22, WinterRose, {Super} Duck!, ~|DS|~sunny
19:04 <Kyanos> lolz
19:05 <Kyanos> #help tea
19:05 <armabot> Kyanos: (tea <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "serverinfo cafe".
19:05 <Kyanos> #help alias
19:05 <armabot> Kyanos: Error: There is no command "alias".
19:05 <Kyanos> huh
19:05 <Kyanos> beta_usa?
19:05 <Kyanos> I know that you can have a bi-directional communication with your application in PHP with proc_open
19:06 <Kyanos> Although I can't get the writing to the process work... :-(
19:06 <Kyanos> #serverinfo -v Kyanos
19:06 <armabot> Kyanos: Kyanos ~ Sumo Mode ( running win dedicated, Description: “Sumo Mode ~ Zone Madness!Is it my zone? No, it's yours.Idea By: Kyanos“, No online players.
19:07 <guru3> Kyanos: i know what you're talking about... it's complicated though
19:07 <mixnetwork> win_zone_initial_size
19:07 <mixnetwork> oops
19:07 <mixnetwork> cpould someone tell me how too make the zone bigger in a sumo server
19:08 <Kyanos> I guess you can only do that by changing the map file...
19:08 <mixnetwork> oh
19:08 <Kyanos> or you have to change the arena_size
19:08 <mixnetwork> i did that
19:09 <Kyanos> or hacking server code xP
19:09 <mixnetwork> i will try to make grid more bigger
19:10 <beta_USA> Kyanos. Hum, i don't have time right now, i'll see about proc_open later. Thanks for the suggestion.
19:10 <beta_USA> Hum btw, it will need some codes hacks right ? I can't use it with the compiled version i guess.
19:11 <beta_USA> #serverinfo -v USA
19:11 <armabot> beta_USA: "USA CLAN" European CAPTURE THE FLAG server ( running 0.2.8_alpha20070814 unix dedic, url: http://www.armagetronad.net, Description: “All settings at default values.“, Players (8/10): C&T ROADRUNNER, DD| Dal, Jormaz, pale man, Shadow'sDiscipl, Shadow{USA}, STEELBLOOD, ßzUSA}
19:11 <Kyanos> proc_open doesn't need code hacks
19:11 <beta_USA> o great.
19:11 <beta_USA> thx.
19:11 <Kyanos> php script starts the process
19:12 <Kyanos> php script keeps running and will read each line send "directly" to the script (not with log files etc...)
19:12 <Kyanos> and with regexp functions you can then make triggers
19:13 <Kyanos> but sending commands back doesn't work, but I'm bored to search a solution
19:13 <Kyanos> As it works for me atm
19:13 <beta_USA> Hmmm. Ok I'll RTFM that. I wasn't sure i could do this without a bot logged as admin (which is a poor solution).
19:13 <beta_USA> Thx again.
19:14 <Kyanos> No problem.
19:14 <Kyanos> (be sure to use fflush after fwrite)
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19:21 <Kyanos> For what do you need it?
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19:27 <beta_USA> I try to make a deathzone come earlier when too many people join.
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19:28 <beta_USA> The ctf mode make client's having a memory leak (probably link to the respawn).
19:28 <beta_USA> So if the rounds are shorter, the effects are "less worst".
19:29 <beta_USA> That's until i find the time to learn how to use valgrind and i try to find a patch.
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20:08 <MrBougo> bye
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20:50 <beta_USA> #serverinfo -v wild west
20:50 <armabot> beta_USA: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “wild west” at the moment, sorry.
20:50 <beta_USA> omg
20:50 <beta_USA> Where did they go ?
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22:49 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
22:49 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 68°F / 20°C | Humidity: 49% | Pressure: 30.10in / 1019hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 12mph / 18km/h | Updated: 5:00 PM ADT; Tonight - Increasing cloudiness. Showers beginning this evening. Amount 5 mm(0.2 in). Low 13C(55F).; Monday - Showers ending in the morning then cloudy. Showers beginning in the afternoon. High 16C(61F). UV index 3 or (1 more message)
22:49 <Vanhayes> #weather lake sylvan
22:49 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
22:50 <Vanhayes> #weather red deer
22:50 <armabot> Vanhayes: The current temperature in Red Deer, Alberta is 60.8°F (2:00 PM MDT on September 09, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 35.6°F. Pressure: 30.28 in 1025 hPa (Falling).
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22:56 <Lucifer_arma> ack, that wasn't a very long workout
22:56 <Lucifer_arma> I need some shade to workout in :(
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23:07 <Vanhayes> #weather austin
23:07 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 64°F / 18°C | Humidity: 49% | Pressure: 30.24in / 1024hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h | Updated: 4:00 PM CDT; Tonight - Cloudy periods. 40 percent chance of showers early this evening with the risk of a thunderstorm. Low 5C(41F).; Monday - Increasing cloudiness. 60 percent chance of showers in the afternoon. Wind becoming (1 more message)
23:07 <Vanhayes> #weather austin, texas
23:07 <armabot> Vanhayes: The current temperature in Austin, Texas is 93.2°F (3:51 PM CDT on September 09, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 71.6°F. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012 hPa (Falling).
23:07 <Vanhayes> ah there we go
23:08 <Vanhayes> #finc 93.2
23:08 <armabot> Vanhayes: 34
23:11 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
23:11 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 93.7°F (4:16 PM CDT on September 09, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 66.2°F. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa (Falling).
23:12 <Lucifer_arma> that other austin is probably the one in minnesota
23:12 <Lucifer_arma> #weather austin, MN
23:12 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Temperature: 64°F / 18°C | Humidity: 49% | Pressure: 30.24in / 1024hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h | Updated: 4:00 PM CDT; Tonight - Cloudy periods. 40 percent chance of showers early this evening with the risk of a thunderstorm. Low 5C(41F).; Monday - Increasing cloudiness. 60 percent chance of showers in the afternoon. Wind becoming (1 more message)
23:12 <beta_USA> #serverinfo -v wild west
23:12 <armabot> beta_USA: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “wild west” at the moment, sorry.
23:12 <beta_USA> #serverinfo -v USA
23:12 <armabot> beta_USA: "USA CLAN" European CAPTURE THE FLAG server ( running 0.2.8_alpha20070814 unix dedic, url: http://www.armagetronad.net, Description: “All settings at default values.“, Players (13/12): <<lonestar>>, blool, blue, gerardo, hunter230 ti4jm, Lazers {USA}, N3cr0s1s, NIGHT LIGHT, ota|mbc|, Ø-¢-ß	i386, {USA}Carnage, |PwN| THE EMO, ~TPÂVÂ~
23:13 <beta_USA> #serverinfo -v clone
23:13 <Lucifer_arma> usa clan?
23:13 <armabot> beta_USA: "USA CLAN" European CAPTURE THE FLAG (clone) ( running 0.2.8_alpha20070814 unix dedic, url: http://www.armagetronad.net, Description: “All settings at default values.“, Players (5/12): Mac&Cheese{USA}, Morgus, Phil, pita c&t, ßzUSA}
23:13 <Lucifer_arma> I'm almost afraid to ask, but wtf is the usa clan?
23:13 <beta_USA> Yes lucifer
23:13 <beta_USA> ^^
23:13 <beta_USA> A clan with a stupid name.
23:13 <beta_USA> Not related to the United States.
23:13 <Lucifer_arma> United Socialist Asshats?
23:13 <beta_USA> oO
23:14 <beta_USA> Ultra Sonics Assassins.
23:14 <beta_USA> I don't like the name either.
23:14 <beta_USA> But i didn't make it.
23:14 <Lucifer_arma> #cyborg usa
23:14 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: U.S.A.: Upgraded Synthetic Android
23:14 <beta_USA> hehe
23:14 <Lucifer_arma> why join a clan when you don't like the name?
23:14 <Lucifer_arma> does OJ Simpson want to play for the LA Murderers?
23:15 <beta_USA> The wild west servers are down so I had to make servers they are full already.
23:15 <beta_USA> Well i like the people inside.
23:15 <beta_USA> And i'll make them change the name.
23:15 <Lucifer_arma> you like clanners?
23:15 <Lucifer_arma> is it possible to like clanners?
23:15 <beta_USA> clanners ?
23:15 <Lucifer_arma> is it possible for clanners to be likable?
23:15 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, people that join clans
23:16 <beta_USA> Well at first i didn't want to join a clan... But this help people get to know each other.
23:16 <beta_USA> It's not that bad.
23:17 <Lucifer_arma> you guys are communists, right?
23:17 <beta_USA> ?
23:17 <Lucifer_arma> well, you know, collective society and all...
23:17 <Lucifer_arma> *collectivist (been awhile since my psych class)
23:18 <beta_USA> Well, you still can ask people in clans if they are communist. I'm not sure they will like it.
23:20 <Lucifer_arma> well, thank you for giving me permission
23:20 <Lucifer_arma> always wanted permission to toy with klanners
23:20 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, gotta go clean the kitchen so I can cook dinner.  Do I have permission for that?
23:22 <beta_USA> Well i didn't think i was mean, so i don't really understand why you are so hostile.
23:23 <Lucifer_arma> (you'll learn that there's a very strong anti-clan sentiment in this channel)
23:25 <beta_USA> thx for the info.

Log from 2007-09-10:
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00:05 <beta_USA> #serverinfo -v USA
00:05 <armabot> beta_USA: "USA CLAN" European CAPTURE THE FLAG (clone) ( running 0.2.8_alpha20070814 unix dedic, url: http://www.armagetronad.net, Description: “All settings at default values.“, Players (11/12): Death-For-You, Mac&Cheese{USA}, Ph3niX, TorquE, Trix, Vanhayes, yigs`, {C&T}ca73l1a, {Super} Duck!, {USA}Carnage, |PwN| THE EMO
00:06 <beta_USA> #serverinfo -v "FLAG server"
00:06 <armabot> beta_USA: "USA CLAN" European CAPTURE THE FLAG (clone) ( running 0.2.8_alpha20070814 unix dedic, url: http://www.armagetronad.net, Description: “All settings at default values.“, Players (11/12): Death-For-You, Mac&Cheese{USA}, Ph3niX, TorquE, Trix, Vanhayes, yigs`, {C&T}ca73l1a, {Super} Duck!, {USA}Carnage, |PwN| THE EMO
00:06 <beta_USA> hm
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01:08 <Durka> wrtlprnft: :D
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02:22 <ghableska> #weather 50266
02:22 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 68.7°F (7:29 PM CDT on September 09, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 53.6°F. Pressure: 29.13 in 986.3 hPa (Steady).
02:52 <spidey> anyone know of a sidebar sorta like conky?
02:52 <spidey> and works in gnome :p
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03:07 <Lucifer_arma> what's conky?
03:08 <Lucifer_arma> and why would I know about anything that works in gnome and isn't a kde app?
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03:17 <spidey> conky is like
03:18 <spidey> and i didn't ask you directly :p i said "anyone"
03:18 <spidey> http://conky.sourceforge.net/
03:18 <spidey> it displays just about anything you want it to, anywhere you want it to
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03:24 <spidey> hi
03:35 <Lucifer_arma> why don't you just run conky?
03:37 <Lucifer_arma> ah, I see
03:37 <Lucifer_arma> well, karamba would be what you'd want in kde, afaik :)
03:42 <spidey> because in order to make conky do that it requires a lot of setup/bash scripts :p
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03:51 <ghableska> #weather 50266
03:51 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 64.8°F (8:53 PM CDT on September 09, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 53.6°F. Pressure: 29.16 in 987.4 hPa (Rising).
04:03 <Lucifer_arma> next semester looks like distance learning for two classes :/
04:11 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
04:11 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 57°F / 14°C | Humidity: 77% | Pressure: 30.13in / 1020hPa | Conditions: Light Rain Showers | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h | Updated: 11:00 PM ADT; Tonight - Increasing cloudiness. Showers beginning this evening. Amount 5 mm(0.2 in). Low 13C(55F).; Monday - Showers ending in the morning then cloudy. Showers beginning in the afternoon. High 16C(61F). UV index 3 (1 more message)
04:11 <Vanhayes> #more
04:11 <armabot> Vanhayes: or moderate. Monday night showers. Amount possibly more than 5 mm(0.2 in). Fog patches. Low 14C(57F).; Tuesday - Cloudy with 60 percent chance of showers. High 17C(63F).;
04:12 <Lucifer_arma> #weather st ass
04:12 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
04:13 <Vanhayes> #weather saint ass
04:13 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
04:13 <Lucifer_arma> #weather saint martin
04:13 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Temperature: 59°F / 15°C | Humidity: 94% | Pressure: 30.18in / 1022hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h | Updated: 4:00 AM CEST; Partly Cloudy. High:66 ° F. / 19 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:50 ° F. / 10 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. High:66 ° F. / 19 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:53 ° F. / 12 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. High:64 ° F. / 18 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:46 (1 more message)
04:13 <Lucifer_arma> I wonder where that is
04:13 <Lucifer_arma> #weather saint martin's ass
04:13 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
04:14 <Lucifer_arma> so, can we now start telling people "stick it where weather.com doesn't report temperatures"?
04:14 <ghableska> heh
04:14 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.weather.com/weather/local/USMN0662?from=search_city  <-- saint martin's in minnesota
04:23 <ghableska> #night
04:23 <armabot> Good night ghableska!
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04:27 <spidey> #weather 38256
04:27 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 74.8°F (9:34 PM CDT on September 09, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 99%. Dew Point: 75.2°F. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Rising).
04:35 <Vanhayes> #weather saint martins, NB
04:36 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
04:36 <Vanhayes> well, there is a saint martins around here
04:36 <Vanhayes> there is also a saint andrews, saint george, saint stephen, and I think thats it
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06:03 <beta_USA> spidey: you might want gdesklet for gnome.
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17:25 <Kyanos> #serverinfo -v Kyanos
17:25 <armabot> Kyanos: Kyanos ~ Crush Zone Mode ( running win dedicated, url: http://www.armagetronad.net, Description: “Chrush Zone Mode ~ Death Zone Madness!Get points before you get crushed! Be the last to survive...Idea By: Kyanos“, No online players.
18:08 <Lucifer_arma> I just realized, we've been spammed!
18:08 <Lucifer_arma> hey, you do realize that most players prefer to be the first to die rather than the last to survive ;)
18:09 <Lucifer_arma> #serverinfo swamplords
18:09 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “swamplords” at the moment, sorry.
18:09 <Lucifer_arma> grrr, that means my server's down
18:09 <Kyanos> use a .bat file to auto-restart it
18:09 <eddiefantastic> ;)
18:35 <tramshed> @serverinfo World Of Hate
18:35 <tramshed> #serverinfo World Of Hate
18:35 <armabot> tramshed: World Of Hate - ish clone: No online players.
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19:48 <Lucifer_arma> .bat file?  on my computer?
19:49 <Lucifer_arma> #serverinfo World of Emo
19:49 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “world of emo” at the moment, sorry.
19:54 <Lucifer_arma> maybe I renamed my server
19:55 <Lucifer_arma> I remember what happened now
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23:10 <spidey> I'M HERE TO WARN YOU
23:11 <spidey> /end
23:17 <GodTodd> i remember now
23:17 <GodTodd> i remember how it started
23:18 <GodTodd> i can't remember yesterday
23:18 <GodTodd> i just remember doing what they told me...told me...told me...told me
23:23 <Lucifer_arma> These are the times that try men's souls
23:24 <Lucifer_arma> in the course of our nation's history, the people have rallied bravely whenever the rights of man have been threatened
23:24 <GodTodd> It was the best of times, it was the worst of times
23:24 <Lucifer_arma> today, a new crisis has arisen
23:24 <GodTodd> My ears perked at the mention of a sale of two titties...
23:24 <Lucifer_arma> the Metropolitan Transit Authority, better known as the MTA, has been levying burdensome attacks on the population in the form of subway fare increases
23:25 <Lucifer_arma> citizens, hear me out.  This could happen to you...
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23:25 <GodTodd> give me liberty or give me death
23:27 <GodTodd> my balogna has a first name, it's O-S-C-A-R
23:27 <GodTodd> my balogna has a second name, it's M-A-Y-E-R
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Log from 2007-09-11:
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00:10 <spidey> rofl
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02:31 <Vanhayes> #armagetron
02:31 <Vanhayes> er
02:31 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
02:31 <armabot> Vanhayes: This data is 49 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (13/14), Durka Durka Land (10/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (8/10), Norm's Place (8/12), ~"XzL.Clan The Server (8/12), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (7/12), Wild West  =Wild Fortress= (6/12), New! Swampland in (6/8), The YELLOW Submarine (5/16), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (4/10), WILDCAT (4/8), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High (1 more message)
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03:47 <Lucifer_arma> how much time we got now?
03:50 <luke-jr> 2 or 3 hours
03:50 <luke-jr> depending on your time zone
03:51 <luke-jr> assuming spidey's 4 was based on "midnight"
03:56 <spidey> lol
03:56 <spidey> 2 hours :D
03:56 <spidey> cdt
03:57 <spidey> if luke's right about tomorrow, i'ma be so pissed, i had plans!
03:57 <spidey> chances are he's not though :D
03:58 <luke-jr> hopefully not
03:58 <spidey> ?
03:59 <spidey> is that a "i hope i'm right" or a "i hope i'm wrong"
04:00 <luke-jr> I hope I'm wrong
04:00 <luke-jr> and you're the one who said the world's gonna end
04:05 <spidey> it will :p
04:05 <spidey> planets can't live forever :D
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04:50 <Lucifer_arma> how much time we got now?
04:53 <spidey> 59 minutes
04:53 <spidey> !!
04:54 <Lucifer_arma> should we do anything, like put paper bags on our heads?
04:54 <spidey> if you're catholic
04:54 <spidey> everyone else should bring ice.
04:55 <Lucifer_arma> ?  devil's my friend, why should I be worried?
04:55 <spidey> maybe true
04:55 <spidey> but it's still hot :p
04:55 <Lucifer_arma> nah, that's just what the christian propoganda machine would like you to believe
04:55 <spidey> ooo
04:55 <spidey> so
04:56 <spidey> really hell is like, everyone has 2 high-end pc's and free 1gbit connections?
04:56 <Lucifer_arma> why would a just god subject us to eternal torture, torture into infinity that is, for things we did in a short lifetime?
04:56 <Lucifer_arma> I mean, how can that be reasonable?
04:56 <spidey> hey
04:56 <Lucifer_arma> just another reason to question, that's all
04:56 <spidey> i've said the samething for along time...
04:56 <Lucifer_arma> the obvious answer is that he's not a just god :)
04:56 <Lucifer_arma> therefore, why should we even believe that his "word" is true?  Maybe he's lying about a few things?
04:57 <spidey> or
04:57 <spidey> maybe
04:57 <spidey> just maybe, the people he "Talked" to where really just some crazed people
04:58 <spidey> i mean, if i said " god told me we should kill all budists" does that mean he really did? or was i just really high again?
04:58 <spidey> :p
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05:27  * Lucifer_arma kills a budist
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> damn potheads are worthless
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> how much more time we got?
05:27 <spidey> lol
05:27 <spidey> ugh
05:27 <spidey> 25 minutes
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> good, there's enough time for me to heat up some pot pies
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05:32 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: world's going to end
05:32 <Lucifer_arma> hey spidey, where did you hear the world was going to end, anyway?
05:32 <spidey> nowhere :p
05:33 <spidey> luke says i should get a gun, and stay out of the cities tomorrow
05:33 <Lucifer_arma> you just made it up?
05:33 <spidey> so
05:33 <spidey> i say the worlds gonna end = luke's shit
05:33 <spidey> :p
05:33 <Lucifer_arma> ah, ok
05:33 <Lucifer_arma> don't know if it's a good idea to take advice from a kid that doesn't know how to use a rubber
05:34  * Lucifer_arma assumes spidey knows how to use a rubber
05:35 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: last i heard there's a rumor that bushie is going to nuke the pacific northwest tomorrow or smth
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> I'm supposed to believe this is a bad thing?
05:36 <GodTodd> never said it was bad ;)
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> if bush does that, he'll be my fucking hero for life
05:36 <GodTodd> haha
05:36 <spidey> good thing i live on the eastcoast...
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> all it'll amount to is about 10 good people dead, but around 5 million emos killed
05:36 <spidey> well
05:36 <spidey> sorta
05:36 <spidey> haha
05:37  * GodTodd is safe...bush would never nuke Texas :)
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> why doesn't he use his earthquake generator to annihilate seattle?
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> why use a nuke?
05:37 <GodTodd> cuz then he can't blame it on iran
05:37 <GodTodd> so's he can go invade them
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> he can't blame it on iran anyway, they haven't got nukes :)
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> even so, they don't have a missile that'll reach
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> nor subs that can carry missiles
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> nor any other way to approach the us without being picked up by *somebody*
05:38 <spidey> if bush goes to war with iranw
05:38 <GodTodd> yeah...and al-whateverthefucktheyare didn't have planes either...they stole them
05:38 <spidey> we're fucked.
05:38 <spidey> china already told us not to touch iran
05:39 <GodTodd> china's killing us with our toys
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> so did russia
05:39 <spidey> indeed
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> iran's part of their economic alliance
05:39 <spidey> and asia
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> see, Russia, Iran, and China are me, spidey, and vanhayes (in no particular order)
05:39 <spidey> so bush wars with iran -> russia/china = we = pwnt
05:39 <GodTodd> iran's...iran's so far away...:)
05:40  * GodTodd notes that spidey is much too young to get the humor in that...
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> they'll declare their military alliance in a few years and start hitting everything around them, and by the time the US can muster a response, they'll have that whole hemisphere
05:40 <spidey> china can ready a 2 million man army in a few days, if not a few hours
05:40 <spidey> so, yea
05:41 <GodTodd> aren't they under martial law still?
05:42 <Vanhayes> couldnt get away
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> fucking liars
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> they said 7 minutes, so I put the pie in for 7 minutes, and it's burnt
05:42 <spidey> lol
05:42 <GodTodd> they didn't say 500 degrees :P
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> microwave
05:43 <GodTodd> ah
05:43 <GodTodd> pie in the microwave?
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> pot pie
05:43 <GodTodd> pot pie in the microwave?
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> given the choice between reheated sloppy joes and pot pies, which would you pick?
05:43 <GodTodd> pot pie in the oven
05:44 <GodTodd> :)
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> I wanted to eat it before the world ended
05:44 <GodTodd> haha
05:44 <GodTodd> that gives you a few hours tho
05:44 <Vanhayes> Lucifer_arma: who was the US in your theory, if we were russia, Iran and china?
05:45 <spidey> australia
05:45 <Lucifer_arma> who do you think?  Luke or a stupid ai
05:45 <Vanhayes> id feel safer with the ai, if it was luke he would complain that he was already attacking iraq, then say he only wants to explore
05:46 <spidey> haha
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> heh, but it makes more sense for it to be luke
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> who else could invade a country, split it into 3-4 civilizations, and then get pwned by all of them?
05:49 <spidey> haha
05:50 <spidey> i'm not sure who was funnier
05:50 <spidey> luci or van
05:50 <spidey> btw
05:50 <spidey> who knows about dual monitors and gfx card support?
05:50 <Lucifer_arma> does your card support more than one monitor?
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> I've only done it with my laptop (which has two monitor outs, one vga and one s-video) and a computer than actually had 2 video cards in it
05:51 <spidey> no.
05:51 <spidey> but
05:51 <spidey> i was thinking of using 2 cards
05:51 <spidey> a ati 9250 and a nvidia fx 5500
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> it's fairly straightforward to setup, but you'll more than likely have to sacrifice 3d support
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> if it were say an nvidia card that had multiple heads, you could do it and keep 3d support
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> but you have to go to the xinerama extension, which afaik still lacks 3d support
05:52 <spidey> =/
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> check if the nvidia card has multiple heads
05:53 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: offense against infinite majesty
05:53 <spidey> it doesn't
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> nvidia's driver provides what you need
05:53 <spidey> it has 1 head and a tv out
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> ah, that's not what I mean
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> the multi-head cards still have only one vga plug, but there's a special adapter you get
05:54 <spidey> yea
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> you have to look at the specs for the card and see if it'll support it, then find out what adapter it uses
05:54 <spidey> dvi to vga
05:54 <spidey> but this card only has a vga
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> I thought most/all of the fx cards were at least duel head
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> *dual
05:54 <spidey> the ati has dvi and vga
05:55 <luke-jr> spidey: Lucifer_arma doesn't know what he's talking about
05:56 <luke-jr> spidey: dual head is possible with ATi and no performance issues
05:56 <Lucifer_arma> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2005-December/108929.html  <-- better check again
05:56 <luke-jr> spidey: btw, the world didn't end
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05:59 <Lucifer_arma> heh, did I run off that beta_usa kid?
05:59 <spidey> luke-jr, then you was wrong :p
05:59 <luke-jr> spidey: I never said it would
06:00 <spidey> basically you did :)
06:00 <GodTodd> #last --from luke-jr --with Lucifer_arma
06:00 <armabot> GodTodd: [06:01:19] <luke-jr> spidey: Lucifer_arma doesn't know what he's talking about
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> #last --from luke-jr --nolimit
06:00 <spidey> luke-jr, ati is a proformance issue
06:00 <epsy> that'ill get ston'd
06:00 <epsy> http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/154728679/article.pl
06:00 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: [06:05:40] <luke-jr> spidey: I never said it would, [06:02:08] <luke-jr> spidey: btw, the world didn't end, [06:01:54] <luke-jr> spidey: dual head is possible with ATi and no performance issues, [06:01:19] <luke-jr> spidey: Lucifer_arma doesn't know what he's talking about, [05:58:56] <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: offense against infinite majesty, [04:06:20] <luke-jr> and you're the one who (6 more messages)
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06:00 <Stewie-arma> rut ro
06:05 <GodTodd> turdy turdy woo
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> http://newsgirl.org/news/ng11353_britney_mtv.htm  <-- apologize for the popup
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, if britney spears really wants a come back, she's going to have to change her act
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> otherwise, the industry has already started spitting her out
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> the picked her up, then chewed her up, now it's time to spit her out
06:12 <GodTodd> did she finish going all nutso?
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> ?  she went nutso?
06:12  * Lucifer_arma hasn't exactly followed her life or anything
06:12 <GodTodd> yep
06:13 <GodTodd> something about her kid in the front seat instead of the baby seat...then there was the head shaving thing
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, I remember that stuff now
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> that was when she was still famous and loved, getting chewed up
06:14 <GodTodd> not really...wasn't all that long ago
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> now it seems that everyone's used her.  is there anybody left?
06:14 <GodTodd> probably
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> I'm actually surprised she's managed to keep her head up this long
06:14 <GodTodd> there's always someone in LA ready to use and abuse :)
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> ah, so maybe this'll be the last public using of her?  Or does she still have to have a financially disastrous world tour?
06:15 <GodTodd> oh...i'm sure she'll try the tour thing
06:15 <Stewie-arma> who doesn't?
06:15 <GodTodd> fucking a
06:15  * GodTodd goes to get a gas mask.
06:16 <Lucifer_arma> more mexican food?
06:16 <Stewie-arma> and underground rumors, Led Zeppelin is getting back together (minus one person) for a final show down!
06:16 <GodTodd> whataburger actually
06:16 <Stewie-arma> so says my connections
06:16 <GodTodd> if it's luke-jr, i don't believe it :)
06:17 <Stewie-arma> it isn't luke-jr
06:17 <GodTodd> ok
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> if it's jesus, I don't believe it :)
06:17 <GodTodd> heh
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> (not that I care either way, Zeppelin's in my box of overrated bands)
06:17 <Stewie-arma> well technically it was jesus, but physically it wasn't lol
06:17 <GodTodd> jesus got physical with you?
06:17 <GodTodd> sue his ass
06:17 <GodTodd> :)
06:17 <Stewie-arma> *cough* jesus is in all of us*end cough*
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> *use his ass
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> that why I have to take a shit?
06:18 <GodTodd> jesus ain't in me...i'm the giver
06:18 <Stewie-arma> rofl
06:18 <Stewie-arma> not this again
06:18  * Stewie-arma lulz
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> hey, we haven't blasphemed in awhile
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> at least, 4 hours or so
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> hmm
06:18 <Stewie-arma> lulz, a corruption of L O L
06:18 <GodTodd> i gave it so good to jesus he had to call his dad
06:18  * Lucifer_arma wonders when his last blasphemy was uttered
06:18  * Stewie-arma knows
06:19 <Stewie-arma> wait no I don't
06:19 <Stewie-arma> it was actually 37 seconds ago
06:19 <Lucifer_arma> I just grab him by his cute little pony tail
06:19  * GodTodd wonders...when jesus has an orgasm does he say "oh, dad! oh, dad!"?
06:19 <Lucifer_arma> no, he says "Thank you satan!"
06:19 <Stewie-arma> ... why would jesus have an orgasm?
06:20 <Stewie-arma> he's not an sinner
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> because he likes it when I do him in the ass?
06:20 <GodTodd> cuz he's fucking his followers?
06:20 <GodTodd> :)
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> look, either he's a man, or he isn't
06:20 <Stewie-arma> no that's the 2% of sinning priests that are doing that
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> if he's a man, he can have an orgasm, and tries to have at least one every day
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> if he's not a man, then he can't be a martyr
06:20 <Stewie-arma> Lucifer_arma, just because he was man doesn't mean he had to sin
06:20 <GodTodd> sex is sinning?
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> orgasm isn't a sin
06:21 <luke-jr> Stewie-arma: more like 50% of non-Catholic priests, I think
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> only if you screw your dead brother's wife and then shoot your load on the floor is it a sin
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> (Onan)
06:21 <GodTodd> damn :/
06:21 <Stewie-arma> GodTodd, sex before marriage
06:21 <Stewie-arma> is
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> not a sin
06:21 <luke-jr> Stewie-arma: Lucifer_arma is a Satanist, don't go to him for advice
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> jesus never said that, that was added by those who used his words to twist your mind
06:22  * GodTodd wouldn't buy a car without test driving it first.
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> think about it, if they get control of your basic natural drives, then you always feel guilty
06:22 <Stewie-arma> luke-jr: it is 2% of the catholic priests, which is also the same as all the other religions that have that problem
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> (which is all of them)
06:22 <Stewie-arma> Lucifer_arma, sex before marriage is a sin
06:22 <GodTodd> Stewie-arma: not my religion :)
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> no it
06:22 <Stewie-arma> rofl
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> s it
06:22 <luke-jr> Stewie-arma: none of the Catholic priests have such a problem
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> er
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> no it's not
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> god told me it's not, he's just testing your faith
06:22 <Stewie-arma> luke-jr: well if they were really men of god then they wouldn't
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> he doesn't want any idiots in jail
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> er, heaven
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> really, I meant heaven, not jail
06:23 <Stewie-arma> so technically no priests have the problem, but registered priests do
06:23 <luke-jr> Stewie-arma: Conciliarist priests are mostly homos, so that's why they have those other problems
06:23 <luke-jr> Stewie-arma: but Catholics don't have those problems generally
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> people who repress normal, natural desires have that problem
06:23 <Stewie-arma> Lucifer... stop yo blasphemy
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> those of us who strive to have one orgasm per day never look at a kid and think "wow, he's hot"
06:23 <Stewie-arma> I've already made 3 promises (in writting) to god
06:23 <Stewie-arma> lol
06:23 <Stewie-arma> if I could spell writing
06:24 <Vanhayes> can you plasphamize if you dont beleive in god?
06:24 <Vanhayes> blasphamize*
06:24  * epsy gets bash quotes
06:24 <GodTodd> i have too...i don't fuck with him and he don't fuck with me ;)
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> #google spell blasphamize
06:24 <Stewie-arma> you can, but you wont believe you have
06:24 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: blasphemy
06:24 <luke-jr> Stewie-arma: the Conciliar sect has a gay priesthood
06:24 <Vanhayes> good for them
06:24 <luke-jr> mostly, anyhow
06:24 <Stewie-arma> luke-jr: blech
06:24 <GodTodd> Stewie-arma: and luke-jr knows, cuz he's fucked em all :)
06:25 <luke-jr> Stewie-arma: don't listen to GodTodd either :)
06:25 <Stewie-arma> as long as he's married ;P
06:25 <Stewie-arma> jk that would be adultery
06:25 <luke-jr> I only do that with my wife
06:25 <Stewie-arma> shame on you luke-jr lol
06:25 <Stewie-arma> not about that
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> the real reason you can't have sex before marriage is because then your prospective wife wouldn't dump you for not knowing what to do
06:25 <GodTodd> luke-jr: prove me wrong :)
06:25 <luke-jr> ...
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> if you had any self-confidence, there'd be no problem :)
06:25 <Stewie-arma> GodTodd: prove yourself right
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> sadly, most men really don't know what they're doing
06:26 <Vanhayes> put it in, pull it out, repeat
06:26 <GodTodd> self-confidence and being catholic are not compatible
06:26 <Stewie-arma> Lucifer_arma: that's why I'm looking for a woman that knows the love of christ (not sexually darn it)
06:26 <luke-jr> GodTodd: that explains a lot, but I'll take my own advice and ignore you
06:26  * Lucifer_arma introduces vanhayes to his friend, Connie Linguesse
06:26 <GodTodd> luke-jr: oh no! please don't!
06:27  * Lucifer_arma draws a picture for Vanhayes with a little sign that says "touch it right here"
06:27  * GodTodd thinks Connie Linguesse would like his friend Phil Latio
06:29 <Stewie-arma> boo for sinners!
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> why?  If it weren't for sinners, you wouldn't even be here
06:29 <Vanhayes> sinning is relitive
06:29  * GodTodd sins all over the channel.
06:30  * Lucifer_arma prefers to do his sinning in the toilet
06:30 <luke-jr> sinning is objective
06:30 <luke-jr> gravity of sin is relative
06:30 <luke-jr> well, not relative
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> because the only sin is pushing out a loaf that has no smell
06:30 <luke-jr> but subjective at least
06:30 <GodTodd> sure....thou shalt not kill....that's relative all the time
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> that's mutually exclusive with "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live"
06:31 <Vanhayes> not all the time but it could be
06:31 <Stewie-arma> Lucifer_arma: I'm sorry my parents where married when I was conceived
06:31 <GodTodd> thoou shalt not kill...unless it's a life for that "has no soul"...or it's someone who breaks into your house....or, etc..
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> Stewie-arma: they were still sinners, or are you denying the word of god?
06:31 <GodTodd> form*
06:32 <Vanhayes> i wouldnt kill someone who broke into my house, unless they were trying to harm me/someone else
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> I don't think I'd kill them either
06:32 <Stewie-arma> they were sinners, but they didn't sin by having me
06:32 <GodTodd> luke-jr would tho...that's the beauty of a double standdard :)
06:32 <Vanhayes> baseball bat to the nees, ya, but not kill
06:32 <Stewie-arma> lol
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> at least, not until I found out if they had enough money to put new weather stripping on my house
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> Stewie-arma: I didn't say they sinned by having you, only that they were sinners, without which you wouldn't be here
06:32 <Vanhayes> ya, but luke-jr is a crazy gun toting catholic
06:33 <GodTodd> yep
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> you christians are so good at making up shit in text
06:33 <Stewie-arma> Lucifer_arma I was just assuming sorry
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> it's not a good idea to ass u me
06:34 <Stewie-arma> then you are correct for saying that they were sinners
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> then why boo sinners?
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> damn ingrate
06:34  * Lucifer_arma thinks we should thank all sinners, without which none of us would exist
06:34 <GodTodd> doesn't the bible teach to "hate the sin, not the man"?
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> maybe in the 1% of the bible that's not teaching to hate the man, woman, especially the woman, children, romans, jews, etc
06:35 <GodTodd> (of course you *have* to hate the woman...that's just god's way) :)
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> why is it always wussy little men that think women should be subservient to men?
06:36 <epsy> http://bash.org/?797984
06:36 <Stewie-arma> because it's them that don't like to do shit
06:37 <Vanhayes> and its them that can't get the women
06:37 <GodTodd> let's see...catholics think that women should defer to men, women are the property of men...why do they hate islam again?
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> epsy:
06:37 <Stewie-arma> semi-true
06:37 <luke-jr> husbands are an authority over their wife
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> #quote get 21
06:37 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #21: "<Luke-Jr_work__> btw, pedophile is good" (added by spidey at 06:34 AM, September 09, 2006)
06:37 <luke-jr> and women are naturally designed to obey men
06:37 <Vanhayes> luke-jr: does your wife work?
06:37 <GodTodd> and islam is bad because?
06:37 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: no
06:37 <epsy> not in wife 2.0
06:37 <Vanhayes> islam is bad becasue it isnt christianity, duh
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> hey, that quote has been in there a year
06:38 <Stewie-arma> GodTodd: that view was abandoned from the catholic church awhile ago
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> shouldn't we celebrate it or something?
06:38  * epsy pulls out champagne
06:38 <GodTodd> Stewie-arma: talk to luke-jr a while :)
06:38 <luke-jr> Stewie-arma: no
06:38 <Vanhayes> luke-jr thinks pedophile is good, lets all say it
06:38 <Stewie-arma> lol darn it
06:38 <epsy> eww
06:38 <Stewie-arma> here comes the crazy talk
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> #q
06:38 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #43: "sorry to interrupt, but how do you add a quote? -- ghableska" (added by Lucifer_arma at 04:00 AM, March 05, 2007)
06:38 <luke-jr> Stewie-arma: the Catholic Church does not abandon views (unless it never held them, in which case it's not abandoning)
06:39 <Vanhayes> btw Stewie-arma luke-jr thinks catholics are the only true christians
06:39 <Vanhayes> just throwing that out there
06:39 <GodTodd> and very few people are "true catholics"
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> not even members of the catholic church, but this weird breed called "TradCaths"
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> sounds like the FLDS, if you ask me
06:39 <luke-jr> so out of the three of you monkeys, only Vanhayes knows what he's talking about
06:40 <Vanhayes> funnily enough he is a convert
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> only luke doesn't have the guts to try to have more than one wife
06:40 <GodTodd> it's made of just luke-jr, his wife, and his fleas
06:40 <Vanhayes> I usually sound like I know what im talking about
06:40 <Stewie-arma> lol, and yet they apologized to Galileo after 200 years...
06:40 <luke-jr> not the Catholic Church
06:40 <Vanhayes> ya, im sure he appreciated that
06:41 <Stewie-arma> (sorry that was to "Stewie-arma: the Catholic Church does not abandon views (unless it never held them, in which case it's not abandoning)"
06:41 <GodTodd> Stewie-arma: ah...but the catholic church isn't catholic
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, absolutely
06:41 <luke-jr> Galileo was treated correctly
06:41 <Stewie-arma> lol
06:41 <Vanhayes> he was right
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> so the Catholic Church can never grow up, right?
06:41 <luke-jr> no
06:41 <luke-jr> Galileo was wrong
06:41 <luke-jr> and is wrong
06:41 <GodTodd> yeah....sunspots don't exist
06:41 <Vanhayes> oh wait I think I remember luke saying that the sun revolves around the earth
06:41 <luke-jr> it does
06:41 <GodTodd> don't believe your eyes or anything
06:41 <Stewie-arma> lol
06:41 <Stewie-arma> rofl
06:41 <epsy> lmfao
06:42 <Stewie-arma> luke you are funny
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> and the planets and shit
06:42 <luke-jr> GodTodd: because your eyes tell you Earth moves-- sure
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> then there's this thing called the firmament, where all the stars are
06:42 <Stewie-arma> this is where I disagree with stuff
06:42 <GodTodd> luke-jr: how would that cause sunspots?
06:42 <epsy> but...we have eyes in space as well -.-
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> didn't luke say the lunar landings were a hoax?
06:42 <luke-jr> GodTodd: you're the one claiming the Earth moves, you tell us how it would cause sunspots :)
06:43 <Vanhayes> ya i think i remember that Lucifer_arma
06:43 <epsy> hubble lies, too
06:43 <GodTodd> i did not...i mentioned sunspots
06:43 <GodTodd> that's all i said
06:43 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: no, I have no opinion on lunar landings
06:43 <GodTodd> you stupid, fucking, ill-conceived moron :)
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> #last --from luke-jr --nolimit
06:43 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: [06:48:59] <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: no, I have no opinion on lunar landings, [06:48:42] <luke-jr> GodTodd: you're the one claiming the Earth moves, you tell us how it would cause sunspots :), [06:48:04] <luke-jr> GodTodd: because your eyes tell you Earth moves-- sure, [06:47:44] <luke-jr> it does, [06:47:31] <luke-jr> and is wrong, [06:47:25] <luke-jr> Galileo was wrong, [06:47:18] <luke- (11 more messages)
06:43 <Stewie-arma> luke-jr: he wasn't saying that the earth moving caused sun spots, he was saying Galileo wasn't wrong about the sun spots
06:44 <luke-jr> Galileo wasn't wrong about the food he ate being non-poisonous either
06:44 <luke-jr> so what?
06:44 <Stewie-arma> lol
06:44 <Stewie-arma> just like the final words of Socrates, "I drank what?"
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> he wasn't wrong about the moons of jupiter either, other than their count
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> (I think Galileo only counted 5, but there's a lot more than that)
06:45  * GodTodd knows that luke-jr will be found one day, dead with a tin-foil hat and a conspiracy theory printout clutched in his hands...
06:45 <luke-jr> nobody's perfect
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> and he'll be dead in his bunker
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> died of asphyxiation
06:45 <GodTodd> pobody's nerfect
06:45 <luke-jr> speaking of which
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> because he didn't believe in "atoms"
06:45 <luke-jr> 8 minutes till midnight here
06:45 <GodTodd> 2 minutes to midnight
06:45 <Stewie-arma> Todd why would he need the tin-foil, he'll die the way he was meant to die ofcourse
06:45 <luke-jr> so I need to go to the other room where my rifle is handy
06:45 <luke-jr> :)
06:45 <Vanhayes> probably dead from starvation, thinking his wife was poisoning his food
06:45 <epsy> 1 hour before school here
06:46 <Stewie-arma> 2 hours 7 minutes till midnight
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> 7 minutes to midnight, godtodd needs to resync his clocks
06:46 <Vanhayes> 10 minutes to 2 am here
06:46  * GodTodd was singing, you pusbag :)
06:46 <Stewie-arma> lolz
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> that wasn't singing
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> this is singing
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> Two!
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> Minuutes!
06:46  * GodTodd is in a namecalling mood :)
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> to miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiidnight!
06:46 <GodTodd> miiiiiiiiiiiiidniiiiiiiiiiight!
06:47 <epsy> no, this is:
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> to kill
06:47  * Stewie-arma noticed GodTodd's namecalling mood
06:47 <epsy> #luke-jr_work sun
06:47 <armabot> ♪ sun is obsolete. ♫
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> the unborn in the woooooooooooooooooooommmmmmmmmmmmmb!
06:47  * luke-jr lynches Lucifer_arma
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> #luke-jr_work Newtonian mechanics
06:47 <armabot> ♪ Newtonian mechanics is obsolete. ♫
06:47 <Stewie-arma> lol
06:47 <Vanhayes> damn, what is that song called, and who signs it, i know it from somewhere
06:47 <luke-jr> he'd want me to
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> heh
06:47 <GodTodd> #luke-jr_work catholocism
06:47 <armabot> ♪ catholocism is obsolete. ♫
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> 2 minutes to midnight, of course :)
06:47 <Stewie-arma> rut roh!
06:47 <Vanhayes> ya
06:48 <luke-jr> but yeah, bbl
06:48 <GodTodd> it's iron maiden
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> iron maiden!  Excellent!
06:48 <GodTodd> from the album powerslave
06:48 <Vanhayes> wow he was serious about that rifle comment....
06:48 <GodTodd> yes
06:48 <GodTodd> sadly
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> ?
06:48 <Stewie-arma> yarg I better be getting to bed!
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> #last --from luke-jr --nolimit
06:48 <Vanhayes> <luke-jr> so I need to go to the other room where my rifle is handy
06:48 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: [06:53:53] <luke-jr> but yeah, bbl, [06:53:33] <luke-jr> he'd want me to, [06:53:16] * luke-jr lynches Lucifer_arma, [06:51:44] <luke-jr> :), [06:51:43] <luke-jr> so I need to go to the other room where my rifle is handy, [06:51:28] <luke-jr> 8 minutes till midnight here, [06:51:24] <luke-jr> speaking of which, [06:51:10] <luke-jr> nobody's perfect, [06:50:01] <luke-jr> so what?, (13 more messages)
06:48 <Vanhayes> because it was almost midnight
06:49 <Stewie-arma> you blasphemers keep on blaspheming...
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> don't tell him it's already midnight in one american timezone
06:49 <GodTodd> tho...if it's a pac nw thing...wouldn't it be at midnight pacific time?
06:49 <luke-jr> Stewie-arma: you don't need to encourage them
06:49 <epsy> #luke-jr_work blaspheming
06:49 <armabot> ♪ blaspheming is obsolete. ♫
06:49 <GodTodd> blaspheming rocks!
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> Stewie-arma: we do most of our blaspheming to pick on luke
06:49 <GodTodd> :)
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> we're bullies that way
06:49 <Stewie-arma> luke-jr what will chang them?
06:49 <Stewie-arma> and by chang I mean change
06:49 <luke-jr> Stewie-arma: wtf does that even mean?
06:49 <luke-jr> o
06:49 <Vanhayes> hmm, why does luke-jr think that there is going to be a terrorist attack in his timezone on 9/11 if it was in new york where it happened(its around 1 there)
06:49 <GodTodd> luke-jr recanting all his beliefs :)
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> if you just came in here spouting typical jesus loving bullshit, we'd probably just blow it off
06:50 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: it was also like 8 AM, BTW
06:50 <Vanhayes> so why are you worried about midnight
06:50 <GodTodd> which still isn't 12am central
06:50 <Vanhayes> I think it was 9 or 10, though that could have been my time
06:50 <luke-jr> I'm just looking for an excuse to go to bed
06:50 <luke-jr> stfu
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> but luke is like some 12th century catholic picked up by Bill and Ted and left stranded in missouri
06:50 <epsy> /topic ##jesus
06:50 <Stewie-arma> Lucifer_arma did you ever see how I go about things in a logical manner? not just believing everything that is told to me?
06:50 <GodTodd> so go you fucking idiot :)
06:50 <Vanhayes> you keep a rifle near your bed?
06:50 <luke-jr> epsy: stfu
06:50 <Vanhayes> you need an excuse to go to bed?
06:51 <Stewie-arma> well anyways cya everyone
06:51 <Vanhayes> cya
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> 'night Stewie-arma (hi there!)
06:51 <epsy> up the shut fuck!
06:51 <GodTodd> Vanhayes: no...his wife has the rifle there
06:51 <GodTodd> :)
06:51 <epsy> cu Stewie-arma
06:51 <Stewie-arma> oh woops I already set my away-ness
06:51 <Stewie-arma> lol
06:51 <epsy> :)
06:51 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: thanks for the compliment btw
06:51 <luke-jr> night
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> I thought you're supposed to give your wife the gun?
06:51 <Vanhayes> <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: thanks for the compliment btw
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> you know it feels so riight!
06:52 <Lucifer_arma> and you don't let go 'cause you're all alone and you're holding her so tight!
06:52 <GodTodd> stupid fucking anal retentive humanities teacher...thinks she's so fucking awesome when she's really just a bitch that needs laid....
06:52  * GodTodd stews.
06:52 <Lucifer_arma> she reject your game idea?
06:52 <GodTodd> no
06:52 <GodTodd> i almost hope she does tho :)
06:52 <GodTodd> she won't tho
06:53 <GodTodd> as long as my subject lines are exactly what she specs them out to be...
06:53 <GodTodd> :/
06:53 <Lucifer_arma> so what are you bitching about, then?
06:53 <GodTodd> i hate picky people
06:53 <Lucifer_arma> damn dude, I thought we were friends!
06:54  * Lucifer_arma is very picky
06:54 <GodTodd> give me what you want to end up with and deal with how i get it to you
06:54 <GodTodd> do you tell me down to the character what my email subject line should say?
06:54  * Lucifer_arma is struggling to parse that
06:54 <Lucifer_arma> well, if I were using an email filter, yes :)
06:54 <GodTodd> she doesn't tho
06:54 <Lucifer_arma> but I'd be smart enough to make it flexible and just tell you to include a certain code phrase
06:54 <GodTodd> exactly!
06:55 <GodTodd> and can't have anything in the email body....oh no...that'd be too dangerous...send it as a word attachment...
06:55 <Lucifer_arma> did she reject your email because of the subject line?
06:55 <GodTodd> she bitched about it
06:55 <Lucifer_arma> ?
06:56 <Lucifer_arma> you should tell her that the email format she's asking for could easily result in many emails not getting through due to spam filters
06:56 <Lucifer_arma> blank email with word document?  That sounds like a virus to me
06:56 <GodTodd> "it was on page 347 of the game syllabus, it's there"
06:56 <GodTodd> i'm paraphrasing, of course
06:56 <GodTodd> does to me too
06:56 <GodTodd> but what do i know...i don't have a phd in humanities
06:56 <Lucifer_arma> she doesn't have even an AAS in computers :)
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> come on man, whip out your real credentials on *this* subject :)
06:57 <GodTodd> :)
06:57 <GodTodd> i just want my 3 credits :/
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> a good bayesian system will definitely catch some of those
06:57 <GodTodd> yep
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> same subject line in all of them, different email addresses
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> it's almost like she's just asking for it to be trapped so she doesn't have to read so many of them
06:58 <GodTodd> well...it's a different subj line because it starts with your first and last name
06:58 <GodTodd> but...a good filter would see that as a bot mailing
06:58 <Lucifer_arma> I'd toss it to her differently, and just put something in the body telling her my concerns and that I deviated from her instructions because I just *know* that what she's asked looks too much like spam,
06:58 <Lucifer_arma> and I don't take chances with my grade :)
06:59 <GodTodd> she must have had problems in the past because she told us first night "make sure you keep a copy of whatever you send me"
06:59 <GodTodd> heh
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> I've had important emails trapped in spam filters before
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> oh well, I have a really nicce group of teachers this time around
07:00 <GodTodd> and then stupid fucking school email system...can't forward school mail to a different account :/
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> all of them will take email assignment submissions (except the one that does it through the blackboard, but that's the distance learning class)
07:00 <GodTodd> so i actually have to *remember* to check my school mail
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> that bites
07:00 <GodTodd> yep :/
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> I have the same problem, and I hate it
07:00 <GodTodd> glad i'm not the only one :)
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> which reminds me, I need to check my school email sometime soon, in case there's something important in there
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> but my supervisor, and pretty much everyone *in* physics knows my regular email address and to send to that if they want me to receive it
07:01 <GodTodd> i checked it at the beginning of the semester...i had shit in there from over a year ago
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> but you never know, school president might invite me to dinner with him and his buddies, right?  it could happen, right?
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> then offer me his wife?
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> I'll bet I have like 50000 "you are required once a year to attend sexual harassment training"
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> what is that?  Are they going to teach me how to sexually harass people?
07:07 <GodTodd> haha
07:07 <GodTodd> i wish :/
07:09 <GodTodd> hahaha....my mail pwd is lukejrsuckscock
07:10 <tramshed> yo
07:10 <tramshed> luci
07:10 <tramshed> you a mod on the forums?
07:11 <tramshed> weve been spammed.
07:12 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@62.20-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #armagetron
07:13 <Lucifer_arma> tramshed: nope, sorry
07:13 <tramshed> oh wells
07:13  * tramshed slaps guru3 around
07:13 <MrBougo> hiho
07:13 <tramshed> harhar
07:14 <Lucifer_arma> http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/2-1-0&fd=R&url=http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/11/us/11lodi.html%3Fref%3Dus&cid=1120590988&ei=df_lRoDhMo6WrgOUremQCQ  <--- TERRORISTS!!!!!!!!!
07:14 <Lucifer_arma> oh good, I'm still not anywhere in bash.org
07:21 <GodTodd> we could probably rectify that ;)
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07:22 <Lucifer_arma> ok, fine
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> why did george bush cross the road?
07:25 <GodTodd> to nuke iran?
07:26 <tramshed> you could try
07:26 <tramshed> but bash quotes only get approved when the system fucks u p
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07:28  * GodTodd wonders if Lucifer_arma forgot the punchline
07:28 <Lucifer_arma> his started fucking the chicken but he didn't have an exit strategy
07:29 <GodTodd> baduptss
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07:35 <Lucifer_arma> http://bash.org/?178890
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15:13 <madmax> hi
15:13 <akira_> greets madmax
15:13 <akira_> how are you?
15:13 <madmax> good thanks
15:14 <madmax> you?
15:14 <akira_> so-so
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18:12 <madmax> if you switch the player you're viewing exactly at the time someone "joins" a team it says: Watching ikono plays for Team blue.
18:13 <madmax> I guess that's high priority :P
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19:06 <epsy> madmax, yea the nullsmurf causes this sometimes
19:06  * epsy looks for an exploit
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19:12 <madmax> the nullsmurf?
19:14 <epsy> that's how i cann cheating color filtering to get a « null-nick »
19:14 <epsy> *call
19:14 <epsy> my spelling's definitely poor today
19:18 <Vanhayes> luke-jr: still hiding away with your rifle, expecting to be atacked?
19:19 <epsy> madmax, up :)
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19:31 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: it's under my desk
19:32 <Vanhayes> ... are you at work?
19:33 <luke-jr> yep
19:34 <MrBougo> whats under your desk luke-jr ?
19:34 <luke-jr> MrBougo: my rifle
19:34 <MrBougo> ew
19:34 <MrBougo> oh yea damn i forgot about the weapon laws in the US
19:34 <luke-jr> ...
19:34 <MrBougo> here in belgium you wouldnt have a rifle under your desk at work
19:35 <tramshed> if everyone had weapons you would think twice about shooting someone
19:35 <tramshed> since they might shoot you back
19:35 <luke-jr> MrBougo: you'd just let some wacko who walks in shoot everyone?
19:35 <MrBougo> if noone had weapons noone would have to think about shooting someone
19:35 <MrBougo> heh luke-jr
19:36 <MrBougo> that kind of crazy stuff is rare here
19:36 <MrBougo> where do you work luke-jr ?
19:36 <luke-jr> MrBougo: yeah, if "noone" had weapons, there's no thought required in shooting someone
19:36 <luke-jr> since "someone" is unarmed, they can't shoot back
19:36 <luke-jr> might as well go ahead
19:37 <tramshed> if no one had weapons someone would make more weapons
19:37 <MrBougo> where do you work, luke?
19:37 <luke-jr> MrBougo: home
19:37 <MrBougo> lol tramshed
19:37 <tramshed> its true though
19:37 <MrBougo> luke-jr: oh
19:37 <MrBougo> and whats your work
19:37 <tramshed> gun laws only keep law abiding people from having guns
19:38 <luke-jr> MrBougo: whatever contracting work I get hired for
19:38 <MrBougo> huh
19:38 <MrBougo> you work at home, right?
19:38 <MrBougo> err somethings wrong there
19:38 <MrBougo> huh
19:38 <MrBougo> i'm lost
19:39 <luke-jr> MrBougo: contracting > employment
19:41 <MrBougo> oh ok, you dont work for a company or something
19:41 <luke-jr> not as an employee
19:41 <MrBougo> oh ok
19:42 <luke-jr> companies say they need something done, I do it and charge them for it
19:42 <MrBougo> aight, i get it now
19:42 <luke-jr> like my next assignment is assassination of some Canadian
19:42 <MrBougo> erhm
19:42 <luke-jr> lol jk
19:42 <MrBougo> :p
19:43 <MrBougo> be careful, CIA bot is here
19:43 <luke-jr> he is?
19:43 <MrBougo> aw
19:43 <luke-jr> lol
19:43 <MrBougo> not CIA
19:43 <MrBougo> CIA
19:43 <MrBougo> thats not the same thing
19:43 <luke-jr> ...
19:44 <luke-jr> CIA is in #commits
19:44 <luke-jr> not here
19:44 <MrBougo> IT IS EVERYWHERE
19:44 <luke-jr> CIA-25 to be specific
19:49 <madmax> epsy: so that means you're the guy usually on café with no nick?
19:49 <madmax> and... I don't think that thing I said is because of that
20:11 <MrBougo> bye
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21:38 <Lucifer_arma> Lackadaisical: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=191780#191780
21:47 <Lucifer_arma> so where's the "terrorist" attack?
21:47 <Lucifer_arma> has the nuke hit seattle yet?
21:47 <luke-jr> yeah spidey
21:52 <epsy> monkey seems to want to piss me off to suicide
21:57 <madmax> that would avoid some café spam
21:57 <madmax> :-)
21:57 <Lucifer_arma> some irc spam, too
22:07 <epsy> ha ha ?
22:12 <Lucifer_arma> see what I mean?
22:20 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
22:20 <armabot> Vanhayes: This data is 45 seconds old; Norm's Place (11/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), Durka Durka Land (10/16), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (9/14), Fortress Café (9/32), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (6/12), G-Land (6/8), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (6/12), .: Eclipse'd.EC|d Arma Clan :. (5/16), Swampland II (4/8), SPACEZONE IV TEAM PLAY (3/15), >3D> Eternal Destiny Clan Server (1 more message)
22:20 <Vanhayes> #tea
22:20 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (9/32): 0x0000f, angry poop°	¦Ö¦, cos, ct-eddie, hoop, Monkey, quart, ~|DS|~Slash, ~|DS|~sunny
22:21 <Vanhayes> dulse is good, just had to say it
22:22 <madmax> who/what?
22:29 <Vanhayes> dulse, it seaweed, im eating it right now
22:29 <Vanhayes> it takes salty
22:30 <Vanhayes> tastes*
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22:39 <spidey> luke-jr, you're the one that said it nub
22:42 <luke-jr> spidey: nope
22:45 <spidey> yes
22:45 <spidey> you said it.
22:45 <spidey> i have the logs :)
22:46 <spidey> oh yea, not on kopete anymore, well
22:46 <spidey> #last --from luke-jr --with nuclear
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22:46 <armabot> spidey: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 37170 messages.
22:46 <spidey> #last --from luke-jr --with nuke
22:46 <armabot> spidey: [04:16:37] <luke-jr> Iraq didn't have nukes
22:46 <spidey> #last --from luke-jr --with tuesday
22:46 <armabot> spidey: [04:02:23] <luke-jr> Tuesday, but 2001
22:46 <spidey> oh fuck armabot
22:47 <spidey> oh yar
22:47 <spidey> xchat isn't logging either -.-
22:47 <madmax> #realchatlogs
22:47 <armabot> madmax: http://master3.armagetronad.net/armalogs/
22:48 <luke-jr> spidey: nope
22:49 <spidey> luke-jr, die
22:50 <spidey> luke-jr, port windows for me :D
22:51 <spidey> aptitude purge luke-jr
22:51 <spidey> wewt
22:52 <tramshed> hey luke-jr try btexact?
22:53 <tramshed> also if you go to http://6to4.nro.net/ you can get reverse for your 6to4
22:54 <Vanhayes> #last --from luke-jr --with nuke --nolimit
22:54 <armabot> Vanhayes: [04:16:37] <luke-jr> Iraq didn't have nukes
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22:58 <Vanhayes> epsy: i think that colour code thing only works from a certain version on
23:03 <epsy> well, it needs color filtering on names to be on
23:03 <epsy> otherwise it's just shorted
23:04 <Vanhayes> ah ok
23:05 <epsy> well, what you can do is to screw up one of the codes
23:05 <epsy> and put it onto a color-filtered server
23:05 <epsy> puff a line disappears :P
23:07 <epsy> i'm off now, i think i can sleep now
23:07 <epsy> (without waiting 4 hours my eyes to close lol)
23:07 <epsy> #night
23:07 <armabot> Good night epsy!
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23:32 <akira_> #tea
23:32 <armabot> akira_: Fortress Café: No online players.
23:32 <akira_> !
23:32 <noob7> spam: spam_ http://www.nixda.net/start.php?navi=links
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23:41 <spidey> so much for stable.
23:57 <spidey> um
23:57 <spidey> ok so can anyone explain this
23:57 <spidey> spidey@hax:/media/sdb1/music$ sudo chown -R --from=root spidey *
23:57 <spidey> that gives me "operation not permitted"
23:57 <spidey> =/

Log from 2007-09-12:
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00:07 <tramshed> is it read only?
00:10 <spidey> no
00:10 <spidey> er
00:10 <spidey> maybe
00:10 <spidey> it's a fat32 partition (origanolly used on windows)
00:10 <tramshed> you should probably find out
00:10 <tramshed> oh
00:11 <tramshed> how is it mounted?
00:11 <spidey> not sure
00:11 <spidey> ubuntu auto mounted it
00:11 <tramshed> whats /etc/fstab got to say about things
00:11 <spidey> though
00:11 <spidey> on gentoo i can read and write from it :p
00:11 <tramshed> if you add the umask=0000 option to the mounting
00:11 <tramshed> it should be fine
00:12 <tramshed> might not hurt to add users as well
00:12 <spidey> spidey@hax:/media/sdb1$ sudo fstab
00:12 <spidey> sudo: fstab: command not found
00:12 <spidey> o.o
00:12 <tramshed> its a txt file
00:12 <spidey> oh, right
00:12 <tramshed> try nano /etc/fstab
00:12 <spidey> unmask=007
00:12 <tramshed> umask?
00:13 <tramshed> or unmask?
00:13 <spidey> yea
00:13 <spidey> mounted as vfat
00:13 <tramshed> ive got umask=0000 for my fat32 partition and it works fine
00:13 <tramshed> reading and writing
00:15 <tramshed> if ubuntu cant write to it that would be why you cant change permissions as well
00:16 <spidey> hm
00:16 <spidey> lol...
00:16 <spidey> unrar keeps asking for a password for this .rar
00:16 <spidey> but it still extracted it
00:16 <spidey> (Tested and the music still plays)
00:17 <tramshed> heh
00:23 <GodTodd> we just need to stop getting shit made in china
00:23 <GodTodd> dumbasses
00:24 <spidey> haha
00:24 <GodTodd> now they're infecting our feet with flip flops
00:25 <GodTodd> (although somehow it's probably a grand plot by the bush administration)
00:25 <GodTodd> :)
00:26 <GodTodd> i'ma start throwing out shit that says made in china
00:26 <GodTodd> i swear
00:29 <tramshed> can I have your puter?
00:29 <GodTodd> oh no!
00:29 <GodTodd> air raid!
00:29 <GodTodd> get ni your bunker luke-jr!
00:29 <GodTodd> in*
00:30 <GodTodd> tramshed: nah...i wouldn't think of exposing you to possible chinese toxins ;)
00:30 <tramshed> im down for chinese toxins.
00:30 <GodTodd> nah
00:30 <tramshed> lead paint here I come.
00:30 <GodTodd> i'm just thinking of you, man!
00:30 <GodTodd> heh
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00:36 <spidey> liar
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00:48 <GodTodd> sure thing, spidey-jr
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01:14 <luke-jr> who is
01:15 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft:
01:15 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft:
01:15 <luke-jr> ping
01:22 <spidey> luke-jr, me
01:31 <luke-jr> spidey: stfu
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01:47 <Lucifer_arma> #ping
01:47 <armabot> pong
02:01 <luke-jr> #echo pong
02:01 <armabot> pong
02:10 <tramshed> #echo #echo
02:10 <armabot> #echo
02:10 <tramshed> #echo #echo #echo
02:10 <armabot> #echo #echo
02:10 <tramshed> aw, it ignroes itself
02:10 <luke-jr> #echo [echo [echo [echo pong]]]
02:10 <armabot> pong
02:11 <tramshed> lol
02:11  * luke-jr ponders
02:11 <luke-jr> #echo [echo [echo [echo [echo [echo [echo [echo [echo [echo [echo [echo [echo [echo [echo [echo [echo [echo [echo [echo [echo [echo [echo [echo [echo [echo [echo [echo [echo pong]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]
02:11 <armabot> luke-jr: Error: You've attempted more nesting than is currently allowed on this bot.
02:11 <luke-jr> aww
02:11 <akira_> #tea
02:11 <armabot> akira_: Fortress Café: No online players.
02:11 <tramshed> #echo /quote join #isuck
02:11 <armabot> /quote join #isuck
02:11 <tramshed> lol
02:12 <luke-jr> ...
02:12 <luke-jr> crappy attempt
02:12 <luke-jr> #echo \n
02:12 <tramshed> im bored what can I say
02:12 <armabot> \n
02:12 <luke-jr> if you can get him to do a newline, then use raw IRC protocol
02:12 <luke-jr> eg, \nJOIN #isuck
02:12 <tramshed> that would indeed work
02:12 <tramshed> cept I think he just /says everything
02:12 <luke-jr> #echo "
02:12 <armabot> luke-jr: Error: No closing quotation
02:13 <luke-jr> that's why the \n
02:13 <tramshed> yeah
02:13 <tramshed> but if hes using say it wont work
02:13 <luke-jr> ...
02:13 <tramshed> since itll ignore escape chars
02:13 <luke-jr> you mean PRIVMSG
02:13 <tramshed> yeah
02:13 <tramshed> its been forever since I telnetted to irc
02:13 <luke-jr> or is 'say' some code in supybot
02:13 <tramshed> I was referring to chat clients
02:13 <tramshed> like I said, its been forever
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02:14 <luke-jr> tramshed: write an IRC client in BASH
02:14 <luke-jr> then you'll have a better hang of it
02:14 <tramshed> I used to know it fine
02:14 <luke-jr> here's a hint
02:14 <luke-jr> 3<>/dev/tcp/irc.freenode.net/6667
02:14 <tramshed> I just never use it anymore due to a lack of a point, heh
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03:09 <Lucifer_arma> wow, still no terrorist attacks
03:09 <Lucifer_arma> amazing
03:33 <luke-jr> if you say so
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04:02 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: still no terrorist attacks?
04:03 <Lucifer_arma> you guys are the worst prophets ever
04:03 <Lucifer_arma> first the world was going to end, then we were going to have terrorist attacks
04:03 <Lucifer_arma> wtf?
04:05 <spidey> um
04:05 <spidey> i was going by what luke said :p
04:23 <Lucifer_arma> I wouldn't trust you guys to predict a red light
04:23 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, gotta go home
04:23 <Lucifer_arma> Uptime: 5 days, 1 hours and 6 minutes
04:25 <luke-jr> spidey: liar
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05:01 <Lucifer_arma> #ping
05:01 <armabot> pong
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05:02 <Lucifer_arma> #ping
05:02 <Lucifer_arma> #ping
05:02 <armabot> pong
05:02 <armabot> pong
05:02 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma we request your presence in swampland in 2.8
05:02 <Lucifer_arma> not happening
05:03 <DrJoeTron> ok
05:03 <Lucifer_arma> no 3d acceleration right now, sorry
05:03 <DrJoeTron> its cool
05:03 <luke-jr> #serverinfo -v swampland
05:03 <armabot> luke-jr: Swampland II ( running win dedicated, url: http://www.armagetronad.net, Description: “This is a test of for Swampland“, Players (2/8): CAT, pinkpowah <3
05:03 <DrJoeTron> uh
05:03 <luke-jr> #serverinfo -v swampland in 0.2.8
05:03 <armabot> luke-jr: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “swampland in 0.2.8” at the moment, sorry.
05:04 <luke-jr> #serverinfo -v "swampland in 0.2.8"
05:04 <DrJoeTron> #serverinfo -v Swampland 2.8
05:04 <armabot> luke-jr: Swampland II ( running win dedicated, url: http://www.armagetronad.net, Description: “This is a test of for Swampland“, Players (2/8): CAT, pinkpowah <3
05:04 <armabot> DrJoeTron: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “swampland 2.8” at the moment, sorry.
05:04 <DrJoeTron> fuck you armabot
05:04 <luke-jr> #serverinfo -v "swampland 0.2.8"
05:04 <DrJoeTron> thats not it!
05:04 <armabot> luke-jr: Swampland II ( running win dedicated, url: http://www.armagetronad.net, Description: “This is a test of for Swampland“, Players (2/8): CAT, pinkpowah <3
05:04 <luke-jr> so how many swamplands are there now?
05:13 <Lucifer_arma> #serverinfo Swampland in 2.8
05:13 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Swampland in 2.8: No online players.
05:14 <Lucifer_arma> #serverinfo -v Swampland in 2.8
05:14 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Swampland in 2.8 ( running 0.2.8_alpha20070906 unix dedic, url: http://www.swamplords.com, Description: “Swampland in 2.8!“, No online players.
05:15 <luke-jr> bleh
05:15  * luke-jr ponders correcting that to say 0.2.8
05:17 <luke-jr> #serverinfo -v Swampland in 2.8
05:17 <armabot> luke-jr: Swampland in 2.8 ( running 0.2.8_alpha20070906 unix dedic, url: http://www.swamplords.com, Description: “Swampland in 2.8!“, No online players.
05:27 <luke-jr> #serverinfo -v Swampland in 2.8
05:27 <armabot> luke-jr: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “swampland in 2.8” at the moment, sorry.
05:27 <luke-jr> can someone test uploading a resource plz
05:27 <luke-jr> #serverinfo -v Swampland in 0.2.8
05:27 <armabot> luke-jr: Swampland in 0.2.8 ( running 0.2.8_alpha20070906 unix dedic, url: http://www.swamplords.com, Description: “Swampland in 0.2.8!“, Players (4/8): Ca$h |MBC|, KnuckleHead, Louie, mo
05:27 <luke-jr> can someone test uploading a resource plz?
05:36 <luke-jr> can someone test uploading a resource plz?
05:36 <luke-jr> #serverinfo -v Swampland in 0.2.8
05:36 <armabot> luke-jr: Swampland in 0.2.8 ( running 0.2.8_alpha20070906 unix dedic, url: http://www.swamplords.com, Description: “Swampland in 0.2.8!“, Players (6/8): KnuckleHead, Louie, matthew, mo, mot1, Upgrayedd
05:39  * GodTodd uploads his resource to luke-jr's ass.
05:46  * Lucifer_arma uploads luke-jr's ass to goatse.cx
05:49  * GodTodd notes the irony in luke-jr not liking 0.2.8 being abbreviated 2.8
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=481310&in_page_id=1770
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05:59 <spidey> aptitude search pornview
05:59 <spidey> rofl...
06:04 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: more proof the cold war never ended...it just hibernated
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> yep
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> but the most important question is this:
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> how long before scorched3d has it?
06:04 <GodTodd> haha
06:16 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7326 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/armagetronad-live/ (3 files in 2 dirs): new auto upgrade mechanism :)
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> I want to build an airship
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> I take it back
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> I want to build an inflatable blimp top that folds down onto the roof of my car while the gas compresses into a tank in my car
06:30 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7327 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/armagetronad-live/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 0.3 bump using new AutoSCM
06:30 <luke-jr> test those please
06:31 <luke-jr> delete and add the overlay for a valid test
06:31 <luke-jr> you can reenable FEATURES=strict if you like
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> http://media.armadilloaerospace.com/2007_09_04/texelCrash.mpg
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> grrr, why won't mplayer play it?
06:42 <Lucifer_arma>  We have also spent more on operational consumables (helium, lox, alcohol, truck rental) than the vehicle itself cost, which is probably a first for any rocket vehicle.  <--- :)
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07:43 <spidey> Forbidden
07:43 <spidey> You don't have permission to access /0.3/20060624/armagetronad-0.3.0_alpha5009.i686-generic-linux-gnu.package on this server.
07:43 <spidey> luke-jr, fix h.distfiles.aabeta.dashjr.org
07:43 <spidey> :D
07:45 <GodTodd> luke-jr? fix? do those words even belong in the same sentence?
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08:12 <spidey> that wistle
08:12 <spidey> should die
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10:38 <luke-jr> spidey: no
10:43 <akira_> hello drJoe
10:43 <akira_> what happened to Shrunland?
10:43 <akira_> k*
10:44 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7328 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/fetch.php: hachi is no longer hosting downloads
10:44 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
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10:52 <luke-jr> http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/attic/jep-0059-0.3.html
10:52 <luke-jr> lol, we're in an example
10:54 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7329 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/armagetronad-live/ (5 files): fix forum URI
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11:45 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7330 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/ (serverlist-aan.php serverlist-common.php serverlist.php): refactor serverlist code
11:45 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
11:47 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7331 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/serverlist-common.php: refactor serverlist code
11:47 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
11:47 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7332 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/serverlist-common.php: refactor serverlist code
11:47 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
11:49 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7333 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/serverlist-common.php: dont link to nullstring
11:49 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
11:51 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7334 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/serverlist-common.php: if no path, we need EOL
11:51 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
11:55 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7335 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/serverlist-common.php: find substring URIs
11:55 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
11:55 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7336 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/serverlist-common.php: debug info
11:55 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
12:12 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7337 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/serverlist-common.php: preg for rcsid
12:12 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
12:13 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7338 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/serverlist-common.php: preg for rcsid
12:13 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
12:15 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7339 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/serverlist-common.php: preg for rcsid
12:15 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
12:19 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7340 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/serverlist-common.php: debug info
12:19 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
12:22 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7341 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/serverlist-common.php: pull outside rcsid from global
12:22 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
12:23 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7342 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/serverlist-common.php: PHPs || sucks
12:23 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
12:24 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: wrtlprnft.servegame.org →
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12:34 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7343 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/serverlist-common.php: portable syntax color changing?
12:34 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
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12:38  * wrtlprnft wonders if we'll reach r8000 today.
12:38 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7344 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/serverlist-common.php: pull outside rcsid from global
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12:55 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: yeah, it's not working as of some hours ago
12:56 <wrtlprnft> ?
12:56 <luke-jr> resource.armagetronad.net, when it picks your mirror
12:57 <wrtlprnft> that might be some apache buisness
12:57 <wrtlprnft> i upgraded and gentoo changed about everything, like it does with every minor upgrade
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12:57 <wrtlprnft> what was that hostname again?
12:58 <wrtlprnft> nvm
12:59 <wrtlprnft> http://three.resource.aa.dashjr.org/resource/
12:59 <wrtlprnft> what exactly is not working?
13:00 <luke-jr> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=How_to_become_a_resource_repository_mirror
13:01 <luke-jr> as http://resource.armagetronad.net/
13:01 <luke-jr> Forbidden
13:01 <luke-jr> You don't have permission to access / on this server.
13:01 <luke-jr> Apache Server at three.resource.aa.dashjr.org Port 80
13:01 <wrtlprnft> well, duh
13:01 <wrtlprnft> it's /resource
13:01 <wrtlprnft> always has been
13:01  * luke-jr feels dumb
13:01 <wrtlprnft> :Þ
13:04 <luke-jr> the sad thing is I pretty much made that call too
13:06 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7346 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/serverlist-aan.php: override Tanks code style
13:06 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
13:07 <luke-jr> http://beta.armagetronad.net/serverlist-aan.php?source=_top
13:07 <luke-jr> :)
13:13 <wrtlprnft> the background is outdated
13:13 <luke-jr> ...
13:14 <wrtlprnft> anything terribly new about it?
13:15 <luke-jr> it shares code with the non -aan one
13:18 <wrtlprnft> that's what i always wanted :D
13:18 <wrtlprnft> thanks a lot!
13:19 <luke-jr> heh
13:19 <luke-jr> the ebuild doesn't break FEATURES=strict now either
13:22 <luke-jr> but it doesn't go on -u either
13:22 <luke-jr> requires -N now
13:25 <wrtlprnft> you're a konqueror user, right?
13:26 <luke-jr> yes
13:26 <wrtlprnft> does it have some kind of userJS?
13:26 <luke-jr> ... maybe
13:27 <wrtlprnft> I'd like to know if http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=17381 works in konqueror
13:29 <luke-jr> maybe 4
13:30 <wrtlprnft> so the current one doesn't have it?
13:31 <luke-jr> maybe with some patches or such
13:32 <wrtlprnft> btw, it's FEATURES=strict
13:37 <luke-jr> ...
13:37 <luke-jr> that's what I just said
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13:41 <wrtlprnft> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=17974&highlight=
13:41 <wrtlprnft> > - I have found a new (better?) way to keep the live ebuilds automatically updating themselves. Please test. You will need to delete and readd the layman overlay, and can reenable USE=strict
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13:42 <luke-jr> o
13:42 <luke-jr> oops
13:42 <MrBougo> hello
13:42 <luke-jr> fixed
13:42 <MrBougo> ?
13:42 <luke-jr> MrBougo: stfu
13:42 <Gursikh> Hi
13:42 <wrtlprnft> hello MrBougo 
13:42 <luke-jr> Gursikh: hi
13:42 <wrtlprnft> and Gursikh 
13:42 <MrBougo> sorry wrtlprnft, i have to shut up
13:43 <luke-jr> lol
13:43 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v MrBougo] by ChanServ
13:43 <+MrBougo> been a while, wrtlprnft :)
13:43 <+MrBougo> yay! i'm superior!
13:43 <luke-jr> LOL
13:43 <wrtlprnft> well, i've been way
13:43 <wrtlprnft> *away
13:43 <+MrBougo> saw that
13:44 <+MrBougo> how was your journey?
13:44 <wrtlprnft> fun :)
13:44 <+MrBougo> nice!
13:45 <+MrBougo> damn i hate itunes podcasts links
13:45 <+MrBougo> gotta change the itms protocol to http, serach for the podcast xml, then subscribe with my regular client
13:46 <wrtlprnft> argh. it's a mistake to start kopete
13:46 <wrtlprnft> you instantly get a “hi” by digitx
13:47 <+MrBougo> haha
13:47 <spidey> what about me?!
13:47 <Gursikh> Wow, I remember I used to play armagetron years ago (in highschool), never thought it would get to be so big with such a huge community. I used to love playing this game back in the day
13:47 <wrtlprnft> i didn't get a hi from you iirc
13:48 <wrtlprnft> you're lucky to have gone to a highscool that allowed udp on arbitary ports
13:48 <wrtlprnft> *arbitrary
13:48 <wrtlprnft> too many 'r's
13:49 <+MrBougo> yurp
13:49 <+MrBougo> heh, sounds good!
13:49 <Gursikh> used to play it over the lan in tech class like all day mostly
13:49 <+MrBougo> yurp
13:49 <+MrBougo> hehe
13:49 <+MrBougo> oh, that sucks
13:49 <+MrBougo> itunes podcasts link to html pages
13:50 <spidey> wrtlprnft, hi :P
13:50 <wrtlprnft> P: ih ,yedips
13:51 <spidey> you was so quiet, i didn't even know you was gone!
13:57 <+MrBougo> lol
14:00 <+MrBougo> my english teacher is called ikonomi
14:00 <+MrBougo> pronounced just like economy
14:00 <+MrBougo> what the
14:00 <+MrBougo> lol
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14:12 <Bougo> pardon my isp
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14:32 <DrJoeTron> man i am so thrilled about tf2 :)
14:33 <MrBougo> tf2?
14:33 <DrJoeTron> teamfortress 2
14:33 <DrJoeTron> i preordered Orange Box yesturday
14:34 <DrJoeTron> so it looks like i have an extra copy of half life 2
14:34 <DrJoeTron> http://www.steampowered.com/v/index.php?area=package&SubId=469&cc=US
14:38 <spidey> DrJoeTron, :)
14:38 <spidey> i decided to order 2gb of ram
14:39 <spidey> though, i'll only see 1 of it(brother's getting the other)
14:39 <spidey> #night
14:39 <armabot> Good night spidey!
14:43 <MrBougo> bye
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14:43 <DrJoeTron> hah cool
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17:34 <Khalsa> is there somewhere listed the requirements for linux server (OS wise, libs, etc.)
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18:37 <epsy> #tea
18:37 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (3/32): Ossi, ~T~GluGGsel, ~{GP}~Gabor
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19:38 <epsy> ?
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20:33 <luke-jr> Khalsa: http://lightfoot.dashjr.org :)
20:35 <Khalsa> uhh I dont see that info there
20:35 <Khalsa> just them selling it
20:36 <GodTodd> that's him selling it
20:36 <Khalsa> I have a dedicated server, just gonna set it up soonish
20:36 <GodTodd> he's saying "pay me money" instead of answering the question :)
20:36 <Khalsa> yeah, no thanks
20:36 <Khalsa> My server can more than handle it
20:38 <Khalsa> I guess i'll just grab the package and have at it when I get some time, was just wondering if ther was some docs I could peruse before hand
20:38 <GodTodd> there probably are...i'm just not familiar enough with them to point in a productive direction :)
20:39 <Lucifer_arma> wiki.armagetronad.net
20:39 <Lucifer_arma> there's two guide for server admins to help you get started
20:39  * luke-jr notes packages have dependencies for a reason
20:39 <Lucifer_arma> well, one's to help you get started, the other's to help you after you've already gotten started :)
20:39 <Khalsa> yeah perused that allready thanks
20:39 <Lucifer_arma> then there's the docs that come with the game, and that's it
20:40 <Lucifer_arma> also, make sure when you say "perused that already" that you really mean "I read the server admin guide in detail"
20:40 <Lucifer_arma> 90% of the new server questions we answer here are answered in detail in said guide ;)
20:40 <Khalsa> yeah I read the guides in detail, perused the rest of the wiki looking for package details
20:41 <Lucifer_arma> what os are you putting it on?
20:41 <Khalsa> linux
20:41 <Khalsa> debian etch
20:41 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, I *think* there's a recent 0.2.8 package in debian's repo
20:41 <Lucifer_arma> haven't looked, though
20:42 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, my personal opinion is that the server is easy enough to build that unless you have a really good reason not to have a build environment on your server, you should go ahead and build arma :)
20:42 <Lucifer_arma> the client's not so easy to build sometimes, depending on your experience, but the server's just "make sure libxml2's headers are there and go"
20:42 <Khalsa> in that case I'll just go build it
20:42 <Lucifer_arma> the autopackage seems to run jumpy on my ubuntu box, which is why I say that.  The server smoothed out a bit when I built from source
20:42 <Khalsa> 'Thanks for the heads up
20:43 <Lucifer_arma> np
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21:26 <akira_> #tea
21:26 <armabot> akira_: Fortress Café: Players (13/32): -{GP}- Gonzap, cos, G5, Gutsy Gibbon, IL, Ill, kurkiz, Lackadaisical, Matt-Daemon, Rob, ~*SP*~PsYkO, ~{GP}~TIRIP, ¦@¦kex
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22:54 <epsy> Jovan, this channel is logged
22:57 <luke-jr> ...
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23:10 <Lucifer_arma> well, looks like texas is getting hit with another tropical storm, but this one just looks like it'll stay at the coast mostly and terrorize east texas
23:10 <Lucifer_arma> maybe that's what Luke was predicting?
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23:11 <Vanhayes> wrond day anyways if it was
23:12  * luke-jr hasn't said anything here
23:12 <luke-jr> well
23:12 <luke-jr> not too much anyhow
23:12 <luke-jr> Tue was only 2nd most likely day
23:12 <luke-jr> we still aren't past Fri
23:13 <luke-jr> and things are looking worse and worse
23:13 <wrtlprnft> http://codedread.com/svg-support.php
23:13 <wrtlprnft> why in hell isn't that chart displayed as SVG?
23:13 <luke-jr> lol
23:14  * GodTodd wonders what the conspiracy weenies are predicting will happen on friday
23:14 <wrtlprnft> using all features of SVG, of course, so you can only view it once a compliant renderer is available
23:15 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: curious they omit KSVG
23:15 <luke-jr> GodTodd: at least I'm not predicting anything
23:15 <luke-jr> just commenting on various news and rumors
23:16 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: there's konqueror on it
23:16 <luke-jr>  El Al, the Israeli airline, has cancelled all flights from New York on Friday, September 14.
23:16 <wrtlprnft> that's probably KSVG
23:16 <luke-jr> DEBKA.COM has posted a strange notice that it will confine its reporting to "special security events" from September 11 throiugh September 18 when it will resume routine coverage.
23:16 <luke-jr> President Bush has empowered himself to be our dictator should martial law be declared.
23:17 <luke-jr> The Department of Defense's "Vigilant Shield 08" exercise will be conducted in mid-October simultaneously with TOPOFF 4 ("Top Officials 4)" sponsored by the Department of Homeland Security, and several other linked exercises ...
23:17 <luke-jr> On Sept. 14, flight lines will be very quiet at Air Combat Command  bases. The entire command — about 100,000 active-duty airmen — is standing  down training flights and many other operations as part of a command-wide  safety day.
23:17 <GodTodd> and what is the source of this "news"?
23:17 <luke-jr> Command boss Gen. Ronald Keys ordered the Sept. 14 safety standdown in  the wake of the Aug. 30 nuclear  incident at Minot Air Force Base, N.D., in which six cruise missiles  armed with nuclear warheads were loaded onto  a B-52H and then flown to Barksdale Air Force Base, La., without anyone  on the ground or bomber realizing the nuclear weapons were on the plane.
23:18 <luke-jr> KSLA reporting that members of clergy will be used to convince people to submit to government in the case of declare martial law.
23:18 <luke-jr> The U.S. Department of Treasury conducting a disaster drill to prepare for a potential economic crisis
23:19 <GodTodd> and what is the source of this "news"?
23:20 <GodTodd> in the absence of an answer i will be forced to assume it's www.stupidconspiraciesrus.com
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23:21 <luke-jr> http://www.northcom.mil/News/2007/VS-08_fact_sheet.pdf
23:22 <luke-jr> http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/05/20070509-12.html
23:23 <GodTodd> aha...the government lies, but let's believe them as a source....makes sense to me, in a weird catholic sort of way...
23:24 <luke-jr> http://debka.com/
23:26 <luke-jr> http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070912/D8RJUT003.html
23:26 <luke-jr> http://www.halturnershow.com/ElAlNoFlightsNYC-TelAvivSept14.jpg
23:26 <luke-jr> http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2007/09/airforce_aircombatcommand_standdown_070807/
23:28 <luke-jr> http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/cia_hayden_warning/2007/09/07/30766.html?s=al&promo_code=39AB-1
23:32 <GodTodd> thought the jews were untrustworthy...
23:34 <Vanhayes> they are crafty
23:40  * GodTodd notes that it's exactly luke-jr type people that calculated leaks were invented for
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00:45 <spidey> is luke-jr going on about that shit still?
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04:42 <Lucifer_arma> #last --from luke-jr --nolimit
04:43 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: [23:34:40] <luke-jr> http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/cia_hayden_warning/2007/09/07/30766.html?s=al&promo_code=39AB-1, [23:32:47] <luke-jr> http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2007/09/airforce_aircombatcommand_standdown_070807/, [23:32:33] <luke-jr> http://www.halturnershow.com/ElAlNoFlightsNYC-TelAvivSept14.jpg, [23:32:16] <luke-jr> http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070912/D8RJUT003.html, (34 more messages)
04:43 <Lucifer_arma> #more
04:43 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: [23:30:03] <luke-jr> http://debka.com/, [23:28:21] <luke-jr> http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/05/20070509-12.html, [23:27:45] <luke-jr> http://www.northcom.mil/News/2007/VS-08_fact_sheet.pdf, [23:24:49] <luke-jr> The U.S. Department of Treasury conducting a disaster drill to prepare for a potential economic crisis, [23:24:42] <luke-jr> KSLA reporting that members of clergy (33 more messages)
04:43 <Lucifer_arma> #more
04:43 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: will be used to convince people to submit to government in the case of declare martial law., [23:23:36] <luke-jr> Command boss Gen. Ronald Keys ordered the Sept. 14 safety standdown in  the wake of the Aug. 30 nuclear  incident at Minot Air Force Base, N.D., in which six cruise missiles  armed with nuclear warheads were loaded onto  a B-52H and then flown to Barksdale Air Force Base, (32 more messages)
04:43 <Lucifer_arma> #more
04:43 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: La., without anyone  on the ground or bomber realizing the nuclear weapons were on the plane., [23:23:19] <luke-jr> On Sept. 14, flight lines will be very quiet at Air Combat Command  bases. The entire command — about 100,000 active-duty airmen — is standing  down training flights and many other operations as part of a command-wide  safety day., [23:22:57] <luke-jr> The Department of (31 more messages)
04:44 <Lucifer_arma> no, I didn't really want to read any of that
04:53 <Khalsa> thanks Lucifer_arma and luke-jr , servers up and running :-)
04:54 <Lucifer_arma> np
04:54 <Khalsa> now to fix the 1000 settings
04:57 <Khalsa> i wonder if it'd be possible to get the settings from one of these servers I like playing on
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05:14 <spidey> sure
05:14 <spidey> join a server
05:14 <spidey> screenshot all that read stuff that scrolls by
05:14 <spidey> :p
05:15 <spidey> it's not all of them, but it's most
05:15 <Khalsa> oh, good idea
05:15 <spidey> s/read/red
05:16 <Khalsa> heh spidey to bad it's not as simple as trem server :-P
05:17 <spidey> heh
05:17 <spidey> it's actually easier to setup a armagetron server
05:18 <spidey> it took me forever to find even a little documentation on tremulous settings
05:18 <Khalsa> yeah, but there are a ton more settings
05:18 <GodTodd> bush just came by and asked to borrow my portable uranium refiner....is that a bad sign?
05:18 <Khalsa> well, it's probably a good thing the cost of entry for a trem server is higher
05:18 <Khalsa> crappy trem servers can be really crappy
05:19 <Khalsa> (redundency ftw)
05:19 <spidey> so play on others?:P
05:19 <spidey> if someone wants to host a server to play on, or to play with...then they should be able to
05:19 <spidey> which they can
05:19 <Khalsa> well, I just remember the days when there were 14 servers and 12 of them sucked
05:20 <spidey> and now there's 200+ servers and 199.99 suck :D
05:20 <spidey> (including mine -.-)
05:20 <Khalsa> haha
05:21 <spidey> i think i helped the other server admins a bit...
05:21 <spidey> when i ran 4-5, we had like 1/3 atleast, of trem playing them, (around 75-80 at anytime)
05:21 <spidey> and, around 80-83 where assholes
05:21 <spidey> :(
05:22 <Khalsa> yeah, that's why we always kept our servers small and basically just for good friends and smart people
05:22 <Khalsa> having the noob cannon really helped
05:22 <spidey> yea
05:23 <spidey> i think the tremx adv. granger should be in 1.1.2 :D
05:23 <Khalsa> then when I got into MG it's just mg now
05:23 <spidey> you could totally own with it :D
05:23 <Khalsa> I've never played tremx
05:23 <spidey> the adv granger shoots trapper spitballs
05:23 <Lucifer_arma> do you guys do anything besides play games?  ;)
05:23  * Lucifer_arma is having a hard time typing, his martial arts class wiped out his fingers
05:24 <Khalsa> Lucifer_arma: I rarely play games
05:24 <Lucifer_arma> I've heard that before
05:24 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, no comment
05:24 <Khalsa> the only games i've pretty much ever played have been Tremulous (i'm addicted) and now armagetron
05:24 <Lucifer_arma> I put as much stock in it as "I rarely masturbate"
05:24 <spidey> which reminds me
05:24 <spidey> why the fuck did i reinstall armagetron
05:24 <spidey> i was doing good, 4 months without it
05:24 <GodTodd> hahaha
05:24 <Lucifer_arma> you needed to masturbate?
05:25 <spidey> now i've played it about 7 hours in 2 days
05:25 <GodTodd> 4 months without masturbating?
05:25 <GodTodd> poor dude :(
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> I learned today that, in spite of all efforts to the contrary, my left arm is still weaker than my right arm
05:25 <spidey> i found tremulous to blow my load on, so it was good, GodTodd  :p
05:26 <GodTodd> tried masturbating with the "other woman"?
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> always do, that's the thing
05:26 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, hah :p
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> but I had to throw a 6 pound ball at my instructor 16 times with my left hand
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> only 8 with my right, because we're mostly right-handed
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> all 8 of the throws with my right went right to his chest and made a nice loud noise when he caught it
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> but maybe 4 of the left-handed throws went to his chest, and only one made a nice loud noise
05:27 <spidey> i'm left handed
05:27 <spidey> but
05:27  * Lucifer_arma was the odd man out and had to workout with his instructor
05:27 <spidey> i wright with my right hand
05:27 <GodTodd> ummm
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> evidently you type with your penis
05:27 <spidey> how'd you know?
05:27 <GodTodd> cuz wright isn't even *close*?
05:28 <spidey> write
05:28 <spidey> wright
05:28 <spidey> who cares :p
05:28 <GodTodd> webster
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> people who like to read :)
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> which is everyone but you, and most other americans ;)
05:28  * GodTodd hates books
05:28 <GodTodd> burn 'em all
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> man, I should talk less trash, it's hurting my fingers
05:28 <Khalsa> I thought those kind of people went extinct?
05:28 <GodTodd> they take us away from our relationship with God
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> and make us unable to see obvious conspiracies by the american government
05:29 <GodTodd> exactly
05:29 <spidey> GodTodd, stop provoking luke, he's sleeping finally :D
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> we could just go into #luke-jrisanasshat
05:29 <GodTodd> if we limit our reading, we're more likely to believe everything we *do* read
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmm, I want some hard boiled eggs
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> so I just determined that using granulated salt to make rock salt to make ice cream is dumb
05:30 <GodTodd> yeah...but if we badmouth him there, he doesn't see it :/
05:30 <spidey> lol
05:31 <spidey> off to tremulous bbl :p
05:31 <GodTodd> don't threaten me!
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I'm a hard boil some egs
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> it's either that or I'm going to fry some
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, maybe I want to fry them instead
05:31  * Lucifer_arma thinks about it
05:32 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, better fry them.  I won't be able to peel hard boiled eggs as my fingers are right now
05:32 <GodTodd> fry some taters and scramble some eggs in them and add some sausage (crumbled)
05:32 <Lucifer_arma> no sausage, and all the taters are reserved
05:32 <GodTodd> :/
05:32 <Lucifer_arma> but man, throw a couple of drops of soy sauce into some eggs-over-easy
05:32 <GodTodd> i need to do my mass breakfast burrito thing again soon
05:33 <Lucifer_arma> not me, my schedule leaves plenty of time for lunch at home
05:33 <GodTodd> i have some chorizo taking up freezer space
05:33 <Lucifer_arma> speaking of whiches, I could just say fuck it and do another pot pie
05:33 <GodTodd> i need to get some pot pies too
05:33 <Lucifer_arma> ever do them from scratch?
05:33 <GodTodd> i haven't had a pot pie in years
05:33 <GodTodd> no...i haven't
05:33 <Lucifer_arma> pot pies made from scratch are fucking awesome
05:33 <GodTodd> i'm sure they are
05:33 <GodTodd> i need to do that too
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> they're good for when you have a bunch of shit and you don't know what to do with it
05:34 <GodTodd> i'ma add pie crusts to my sam's list
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> keep some bullion on hand, and flour and shit
05:34 <GodTodd> i have that stuff
05:34 <GodTodd> always
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> make up some pie crusts (not too hard), then make up some chicken gravy with the bullion
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> then chop everything, throw it in the gravy until it's a nice thick thing, thicker than stew, and toss it in the pie crust
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> top it with the other pie crust you made
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> bake the piss out of it
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> it's awesome
05:35 <GodTodd> yeah
05:35 <GodTodd> i need to make bread again soon
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> obviously some ingredients, like potatoes and carrots, need to be blanched
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> no bread machine?
05:35 <GodTodd> homemade bread is orgasmic
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> we have mechanized homemade bread :)
05:35 <GodTodd> i think we have one actually
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> which reminds me, I need to get into the habit of actually tossing some bread mix in there when we don't have any ;)
05:35 <GodTodd> i think it's under the kitchen server
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> still, it doesn't beat making bread by hand
05:36 <GodTodd> (no that's not a typo)
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> it just makes bread that's waaaay better than store bought shit
05:36 <GodTodd> yeah...hand-bread fucking rocks
05:36 <GodTodd> all day thing but mmmmmmmmmmmm
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> alright, i'll do the eggs for breakfast and just toss in a pot pie for riht now
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> I should be doing statics instead of cooking eggs :)
05:37 <GodTodd> i should be finishing my physics homework
05:37 <GodTodd> 3 problems to go is all
05:37 <GodTodd> and a prelab...but i have an hour and a half before lab to do that
05:37 <GodTodd> hmmm
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> my statics teacher is awesome
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> today he went through a list of 8 students who didn't turn in their homework on time to ask them why they didn't
05:38 <GodTodd> haha
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> most weren't there, probably dropped the class
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> but the ones that were were so humiliated, it was fucking awesome
05:38 <GodTodd> what reason did you give? ;)
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> heh
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> no need, I turned it in on time :)
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> I had it done days early
05:39 <GodTodd> tho, that's a good way to make sure they'll turn in the *next* one
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
05:39 <GodTodd> on time*
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> it's also starting to look like the two chicks in class are going to try to compete for which one should dominate
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> (they're both hot, so this could be interesting)
05:39 <GodTodd> alpha-chick?
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> I guess so
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> one's skinny and real pretty, the other's a little chubby but really curvy
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> with current trends being what they are, I might wind up with a new wife before I finish my degree
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> literally every time I take a class that's up a notch mathematically, the chicks are hotter
05:41 <GodTodd> haha
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> so naturally, the really nasty ugly chicks were in my intermediate algebra class
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> this only applies to physics, the calculus progression saw steadily uglier chicks
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> which doesn't make sense, because the hot physics chicks have to go through the calc progression too
05:42 <GodTodd> there was a damn hot black chick in my calc 2 class
05:42 <GodTodd> she goes to UNC tho :/
05:46 <GodTodd> i should see if my physics instructor extended the chapter 2 assignment
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> at this point I'm just happy to see hot chicks that aren't shying away from smart pursuits
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> I have noticed a lot of attractive women that dn't think they're smart enough for anything besides kinesiology, communication, liberal arts, etc.
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> nursing's very popular, but there is a labor shortage in the field, too
05:52 <GodTodd> yep
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> took my first quiz in government today :)
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> got 20 out of 20 points ;)
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05:59 <Khalsa> is there a way to load different cfg files from console?
05:59 <luke-jr> yes
05:59 <Khalsa> (server console)
05:59 <luke-jr> include
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, type INCLUDE whatever.cfg
06:00 <Khalsa> Cool, thanks!
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
06:01 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 72.3°F (11:06 PM CDT on September 12, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 64.4°F. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012.1 hPa (Rising).
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> looks like the only thing humberto's doing for austin is pushing a lot of hot air over from houston, the little bastard
06:02 <Khalsa> You get what you deserve!
06:02 <Khalsa> and it's not that hot here anyways...
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> you're in houston?
06:03 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
06:03 <Khalsa> Yup
06:03 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Near Custer and Parker, Plano, Texas is 72.9°F (11:11 PM CDT on September 12, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 60.8°F. Pressure: 29.26 in 990.7 hPa (Rising).
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> watch out for humberto!
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> ;)
06:03 <GodTodd> still hotter than austin :/
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> he should be hitting you pretty soon, maybe just a few hours from now
06:03 <Khalsa> meh, not going to be much wind, just 4-6 inches of rain
06:04 <Khalsa> so i'm not worried
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> some wind gusts should be up to hurricane strength :)
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> he strengthened a bit
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> not much, not enough to become a hurricane, but that's what Erin did too
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> and erin totally tore up san antone
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> at least erin had the decency to send us some rain
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: I think austin's in the tropical conditions zone this year, or as close as it can get
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> we just had some cool thunderstorms blow through the last few days
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> fall's a-coming
06:06 <GodTodd> yeah...we are looking at some lows hitting in the upper 50s
06:06 <GodTodd> brrrr
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> damn
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> need a coat
06:06 <Khalsa> is there a way to dump client console to a file?
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> Khalsa: not that I'm aware of
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> server console is easy, but client console isn't
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> we'd welcome a patch :)
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> my government teacher put the first test in the testing center finally
06:07 <Khalsa> hmm, i'll get some of my coder buddies to look at ti
06:07 <Khalsa> it*
06:07 <GodTodd> we're going to take our govt tests in class
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> heh, this is distance learning :)
06:07 <GodTodd> yep
06:08 <Lucifer_arma> my chem teacher's going to use the testing center too, so I need to knock out the gov exam this weekend or next week
06:08 <tramshed> #weather 49117
06:08 <armabot> tramshed: The current temperature in Beacher, 10th/Franklin St, Michigan City, Indiana is 54.1°F (11:16 PM CDT on September 12, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 50.0°F. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020.5 hPa (Rising).
06:09 <tramshed> woot.
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> dude, it's fucking cold there!
06:09  * Lucifer_arma is feeling the soreness starting up
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> I'm going to be sooooo sore tomorrow
06:10 <tramshed> welcome to the midwest
06:10 <tramshed> its 90 during the day
06:10 <tramshed> our weather is fucked the fuck up.
06:12 <GodTodd> #weather 68131
06:12 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Omaha, Nebraska is 62.6°F (9:52 PM CDT on September 12, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 53.6°F. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
06:12 <Khalsa> #weather 77381
06:12 <armabot> Khalsa: The current temperature in The Woodlands, Texas is 74.8°F (11:15 PM CDT on September 12, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 71.6°F. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012.1 hPa (Steady).
06:12 <Khalsa> #weather 77046
06:12 <tramshed> #weather 60606
06:12 <armabot> Khalsa: The current temperature in Loop610, Houston, Texas is 75.9°F (11:20 PM CDT on September 12, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 71.6°F. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009.0 hPa (Steady).  Tropical Storm Warning in effect...
06:12 <armabot> tramshed: The current temperature in Cabrini Green, Chicago, Illinois is 61.3°F (11:00 PM CDT on September 12, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 46.4°F. Pressure: 30.06 in 1017.8 hPa (Steady).
06:12 <GodTodd> #weather 88310
06:12 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Alamogordo, New Mexico is 69.8°F (10:14 PM MDT on September 12, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 53.6°F. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
06:13 <GodTodd> #weather 85205
06:13 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Val Vista & University, Mesa, Arizona is 89.4°F (9:01 PM MST on September 12, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 27%. Dew Point: 51.8°F. Pressure: 29.72 in 1006.3 hPa (Steady).
06:13 <GodTodd> yep...that's mesa :/
06:13 <GodTodd> heh
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06:21 <Lucifer_arma> I love these big dick competitions over weather we do here
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06:24 <GodTodd> heh
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06:25 <GodTodd> woot...he extended the due date to saturday
06:26 <GodTodd> and posted chapters 3 and 4
06:26 <GodTodd> so i can get ahead this weekend :)
06:27 <GodTodd> The acceleration of a particle along an x axis is a = 4.2t, with t in seconds and a in meters per second squared. At t = 2.0 s, its velocity is +16 m/s. What is its velocity at t = 7.0 s?
06:27 <GodTodd> grrr...why is this confusing me? :/
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> heh
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> integrate acceleration
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> which ives you 2.1t^2
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> which ives you 2.1t^2 + C
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> plug in 2 for t and set it equal to 16, solve for C
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> then replace C with what you got, and make it a velocity function
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> then find v(7.0)
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: follow?
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> I don't think there's an algebraic way to work that problem
06:36 <GodTodd> i thought i did that and it said the answer was wrong...
06:36 <GodTodd> let me try again
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 16/8.4
06:37 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 1.90476190476
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> let's see, lemme work this somewheres beside my head :)
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> a(t) = 4.2t
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> v(t) = 4.2/2 t^2 + C
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 4.2/2
06:37 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 2.1
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> ok, that was right
06:38 <GodTodd> #math calc 2.1*49+1.90476190476
06:38 <armabot> GodTodd: 104.804761905
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> v(t) = 2.1 t^2 + C
06:38 <GodTodd> hrmmm...i think i see my problem
06:38 <GodTodd> i think i had 102.9 before...
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> 16 = 2.1 (2)^2 + C
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> ah, rounding error/
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> ?
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 2.1 * 2**2
06:38 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 8.4
06:38 <GodTodd> which i shouldn't do because panahi drilled "+C" into our heads for indefinite integration :/
06:39 <GodTodd> nah...no +C
06:39 <GodTodd> :)
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 16 - 8.4
06:39 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 7.6
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> haha
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> so I get C = 7.6
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> is that what you got?
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> v(t) = 2.1 t^2 + 7.6  <--- here's my velocity function
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> (my previous division was completely ass wrong, which I noticed after I wrote it out)
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 2.1 * 7**2 + 7.6
06:40 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 110.5
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> there's my answer
06:41 <GodTodd> and it's wrong :)
06:41 <GodTodd> answer is 47 m/s
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> ok, fine, I'll get a pencil
06:41 <GodTodd> heh
06:41  * Lucifer_arma always gets it wrong when he tries doing math in irc
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> ok, what did I do wrong?
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> heh
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> are you sure you put the right problem up for the answer you're giving me?
06:44  * Lucifer_arma did it on paper and got his same answer
06:45 <tramshed> #math calc 4.2*7
06:45 <armabot> tramshed: 29.4
06:45 <tramshed> im wrong
06:45 <tramshed> im awesome like that
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> man, this is a calc 1 problem
06:46 <GodTodd> yeah...but reading the answer thing...it's answer is based on the numbers in the book...and they're usually slightly different...and i'm not sure which problem it is in the print book :/
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> there's no "slightly different" between 47 m/s and 110
06:47 <GodTodd> i know
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> did you get 110.5 also?
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> (or whatever it was)
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> C has to be -55.9 for the answer you say it should be
06:49 <GodTodd> `1not me...the damn web thingy
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I stick by my answer, the computer answer is wrong :)
06:49 <GodTodd> :P
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> I worked out the integral a different, more verbose way, just to make sure I hadn't forgotten basic integration
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> still the same shit
06:50 <GodTodd> that's cool :) try this one:
06:50 <GodTodd> A jumbo jet must reach a speed of 360 km/h on the runway for takeoff. What is the least constant acceleration (in km/h2) needed for takeoff from a 1.88 km runway?
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> haha
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> love these optimization problems
06:50 <GodTodd> :)
06:51  * GodTodd is trying to remember optimization from calc I :/
06:53 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I got 1880 meters for the runway, and 100 m/s for the target velocity
06:54 <GodTodd> yep
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I have p = a t^2
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> make that 1880 = a t^2
06:58 <Lucifer_arma> or p =, doesn't matter
06:58 <GodTodd> 1.5at^2 isn't it?
06:58 <GodTodd> er
06:58 <GodTodd> 1/2at^2
06:58 <Lucifer_arma> I want to minimize a, so I want the derivative
06:58 <Lucifer_arma> ah, right, thanks :)
06:58 <Lucifer_arma> wait, I didn't get that by integrating, so I probably did it wrong
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> I did p = vt, v = at, then substituted for v
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> this is dumb, I'm going to wind up taking the derivative anyway, with respect to the variable I want, so I'm evidently doing something wrong
07:00 <GodTodd> yeah...v=v0+at
07:00 <GodTodd> which v0 is 0 so it's v=at
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> wait, what's galileo's formula?
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> that's the one we want, there's no time in the problem, so we shouldn't introduce it
07:00  * Lucifer_arma wonders where his physics notes are
07:02 <GodTodd> maybe: v^2=v0^2+2a(x-x0)?
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> that's it
07:02 <GodTodd> that leaves out t and we have the rest :)
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> v0 = 0
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> deltaX = 1880 m :)
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> 2.6596
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> that's what I get
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> simple algebra, that
07:04 <GodTodd> is that in km/h^2?
07:04 <GodTodd> :P
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> no, m/s^2
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> do they want km/h^2?
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> that's a weird unit for acceleration
07:04 <GodTodd> i know...but it says it wants that
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> asshats
07:04 <GodTodd> i got 34.47
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> fine, lemme convert it real quick
07:04 <GodTodd> is that right?
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> eek
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> I have the same digits, but different decimal place
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> 34468.08
07:06 <GodTodd> did you multiply with the m-km conversion factor?
07:06 <GodTodd> 1000m=1km
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> divide that
07:06 <GodTodd> cuz you're off by 1000
07:06 <GodTodd> (in decimal anyway) :)
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> I have m in the numerator, so I need m in the denominator, making it division
07:07 <GodTodd> yeah
07:07 <GodTodd> which would give the same answer i have :)
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> I squared 3600
07:07 <GodTodd> ahhh
07:07 <GodTodd> oops :)
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> maybe I punched it in the calculator wrong
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> well, it's 3600 seconds in an hour, so 3600^2 seconds in a second^2
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> I get 9.57blah without the squaring
07:08 <GodTodd> ahhh
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> did the web app give you an answer?
07:08 <GodTodd> well...34.47 is wrong :/
07:08 <GodTodd> no...cuz i get for tries before it makes me give up
07:08 <GodTodd> four*
07:09 <Lucifer_arma> I stand by my answer
07:09 <Lucifer_arma> lemme dump all the decimal places
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> 34468.08511
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> I solved without the unit conversion to start and got the same answer as I did otherwise
07:10 <GodTodd> well...i don't get credit unless i get within 3% of *their* answer ;)
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> that's why I dumped all the decimal places :)
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> not that I want you to use up a try on *my* answer
07:12 <GodTodd> blah...yeah...i was dumb...it is 34468
07:13 <GodTodd> i was using km/hr with m on my paper calcs
07:13 <GodTodd> :/
07:13 <GodTodd> stupid stupid
07:13 <GodTodd> worked fine when i used km/hr with km
07:13 <GodTodd> :)
07:13 <Lucifer_arma> haha :)
07:14 <GodTodd> At the instant the traffic light turns green, an automobile starts with a constant acceleration a of 1.8 m/s2. At the same instant a truck is 12.4 m down the road and traveling with a constant speed of 9.1 m/s. (a) How far beyond the traffic signal will the automobile overtake the truck? (b) How fast will the automobile be traveling at that instant?
07:14 <GodTodd> same equation for part a there, right?
07:14 <GodTodd> er
07:15 <GodTodd> hmmm
07:15 <Lucifer_arma> might want to work with formulas for time on this one, not sure
07:15 <Lucifer_arma> when I had this problem in my physics class, it was an optimization problem
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07:15 <Lucifer_arma> but we'll see :)
07:15 <MrBougo> yea we'll see
07:15 <MrBougo> hello
07:16 <GodTodd> last problem for chapter 2....i might as well try and finish it now :)
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> well, I started by writing a velocity function for the car
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> then I wrote a position function for it (by integrating the velocity function)
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> this is subtly different from the one I was thinking, so it doesn't appear to be an optimization problem
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> then I wrote a position function for the truck
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> now I'm going to set them equal to each other and solve for t :)
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> for part a I get 210.9 meters
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> 210.9247364
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> for part b, 27.55525878
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> m/s of course
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> the t I got (using the quadratic formula) was 5.055555556 +/- 10.25329215
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> I threw out the negative root answer and kept 15.30884771
07:23 <MrBougo> heh, that Orange Box thingy sounds crazy
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> the velocity function I wrote for the car is 1.8t (obviously)
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> integrating and throwing out C (becaause we know C=0 as the initial condition), I get 0.9 t^2
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> position of the car
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> the truck's position I wrote simply as 12.4 + 9.1t
07:25 <Lucifer_arma> 12.4 because at t=0, the truck was already 12.4 meters past the stoplight
07:25 <Lucifer_arma> and its position is increasing at the rate of 9.1 m/s :)
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07:26 <Lucifer_arma> set them equal, blahblah
07:26 <GodTodd> it says yer wrong :P
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> oh well
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> what did you get?
07:27 <GodTodd> still working on it :/
07:27 <MrBougo> bye
07:28 <MrBougo> lol GodTodd and Lucifer_arma
07:28 <MrBougo> bye
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07:32 <Lucifer_arma> how about 115.47962 (for part a)
07:32 <Lucifer_arma> with a t=11.327431
07:33 <Lucifer_arma> making part b, let's see, 20.3893758
07:33 <Lucifer_arma> this time I let my graphing calculator find the intersection of the two graphs :)
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07:45 <GodTodd> 115.53 m and 20.39 m/s
07:45 <GodTodd> yeah...that's what i got and it says right :)
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> I must've screwed up my computations then, because I punched in the same functions :)
07:46 <GodTodd> :)
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> er
07:46 <GodTodd> bah...88.1 homework average so far :/
07:47 <GodTodd> need to use the next two to raise that
07:48 <GodTodd> tho it's only 25% of the grade
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11:49 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, isn't texas CDT?
11:56 <deja_vu> hey spidey :)
12:28 <spidey> deja_vu, :D
12:56 <spidey> you've got to be kidding me...
12:56 <spidey> "find the area of the shaded parts" , they didn't use a color printer, or add white, so i have a big solid black box -.-
13:15 <wrtlprnft> compute the area of the solid black box and state 0 ≤ A_shaded ≤ A_box
13:16 <spidey> ...
13:17 <spidey> don't use big...whatever that is...on me :p
13:23 <wrtlprnft> ?
13:24 <spidey> ?
13:24 <wrtlprnft> ?
13:25 <spidey> ?!
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13:28 <wrtlprnft> 
13:28 <spidey>  
13:28 <spidey> don't you   me
13:28 <wrtlprnft> pfft, normal spaces suck
13:28 <spidey> ;p
13:29 <wrtlprnft> zero- width, no- break spaces are the way to go!
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13:29 <wrtlprnft> ab
13:29 <spidey>  
13:29 <spidey> hm
13:31 <wrtlprnft> on fact it does have a meaning, apparently
13:31 <spidey> oh ffs
13:31 <wrtlprnft> you can prevent other chars from breaking
13:32 <spidey> \t
13:32 <spidey> :O
13:32 <spidey> i was putting my name on this homework due today
13:32 <spidey> and for name i put "spidey"
13:32  * spidey goes to find white out
13:33 <spidey> gah
13:33 <spidey> i broke compiz to
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14:41 <wrtlprnft> http://pastebin.ca/695610
14:41 <wrtlprnft> that's how you deal with spammers
14:45 <spidey> lol
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14:46 <wrtlprnft> two of those pastes are arma- related :D
14:46 <wrtlprnft> just picked random sentences from random pages
14:47 <wrtlprnft> *tabs for those firefox users out there
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14:52 <moos> what did you mean with 'h' ?
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14:53 <wrtlprnft> just something between m and f
14:53 <z-man-work> heh.
14:53 <wrtlprnft> something he didn't expect, anyways
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16:54 <GodTodd> 6. Ballmer on Linux's uh, health problems:
16:54 <GodTodd> "Linux is not in the public domain. Linux is a cancer that
16:54 <GodTodd> attaches itself in an intellectual property sense to everything it
16:54 <GodTodd> touches. That's the way that the license works."
16:54 <GodTodd> heh
16:56 <tramshed> haha, that was awesome, I just got kickbanned
16:57 <tramshed> im ninja like that
16:57 <GodTodd> 8. Gates on his customers:
16:57 <GodTodd> "Let's face it, the average computer user has the brain of a Spider Monkey."
16:57 <tramshed> guess they dont like pictures of people they know with cans in their ass
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17:11 <GodTodd> cans in their ass...hrmm...not a real pleasant visual ;)
17:15 <tramshed> its not indeed
17:15 <tramshed> but its still utterly hilarious
17:16 <tramshed> they are supposed to be a bunch of metalheads, but they got all emo over that
17:17 <GodTodd> heh
17:19 <tramshed> I love people with high moral standards
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17:20 <GodTodd> as do i, tramshed, as do i ;)
17:46  * Lucifer_arma feels like a train wreck
17:46 <tramshed> hard night of drinking?
17:46 <Lucifer_arma> no, martial arts conditioning
17:46 <Lucifer_arma> we threw the medicine ball for an hour and a half
17:47 <Lucifer_arma> since I was the odd man out, I had to work out with the instructor ;/
17:47 <tramshed> hah
17:47 <tramshed> and hes a ninja
17:47 <tramshed> so you got pwned
17:47 <Lucifer_arma> 8th degree black belt in aikido
17:49 <Lucifer_arma> heh, I've got muscles sore that I didn't even know I had
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17:50 <Lucifer_arma> bonjour, epsy, comment t'allez-vous?
17:50 <epsy> ça ne va pas pour le mieux, mais ça ira :)
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18:03 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/17405
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18:54 <epsy> #tea
18:54 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (4/32): 0x0000f, Player 1, ~*SP*~goncita, ¦Ö¦Elex
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19:16 <Durka> Lucifer_arma: ping
19:16 <Durka> wrtlprnft: :D
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19:27 <Durka> MrBougo: :D
19:28 <MrBougo> Durka: !
19:28 <Durka> :P
19:28 <MrBougo> :D
19:32 <wrtlprnft> Durka: 
19:32 <Durka> wrtlprnft: :D
19:33 <Durka> question
19:33 <Durka> Can you change 4 Team Fortress Saloon into Durka's Team Sumo Server (hosted by wrtlpwnd)
19:35 <Durka> do you need the settings?
19:37 <wrtlprnft> what'w wrong with 4 team fortress?
19:38 <Durka> no one plays in it
19:38 <Durka> xD
19:38 <wrtlprnft> include examples/cvs_test/sumo_complete.cfg\nTEAM_MIN_PLAYERS 2\nTEAM_MAX_PLAYERS 2\nSP_TEAM_MIN_PLAYERS 2\nSP_TEAM_MAX_PLAYERS 2
19:38 <wrtlprnft> anything i missed?
19:39 <wrtlprnft> besides disabling colors in names
19:40 <Durka> yea tons lol
19:40 <Durka> scoring is different, zones are bigger
19:40 <Durka> http://durkadurkaland.com/teamsumo.cfg
19:41 <wrtlprnft> can you rewrite it so it includes the standard sumo cfg file and only lists the differences?
19:41 <Durka> sure
19:46 <Durka> here
19:46 <Durka> http://durkadurkaland.com/teamsumo2.cfg
19:46 <Durka> i THINK that's it ;)
19:52 <wrtlprnft> much better
19:53 <Durka> :P
19:56 <wrtlprnft> 18 FILTER_COLOR_NAMES 1
19:56 <wrtlprnft> 19 FORTRESS_MAX_PER_TEAM 1
19:56 <wrtlprnft> up and running
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20:17 <Durka> ty\
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20:33 <Khalsa> should have a place where people can upload various cfg files
20:33 <Khalsa> so people can try out other settings and such
20:47 <wrtlprnft> you can just post them to the forums or wiki
20:49 <Khalsa> are there some there allready?
20:49 <Khalsa> the example ones were nice to have btw :-)
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21:40 <wrtlprnft> not a lot
21:41 <wrtlprnft> there's some stuff about camera settings on the wiki
21:41 <wrtlprnft> and if you search a bit you'll find the physics settings of some popular servers
21:54 <Khalsa> yeah I only found a couple
21:55 <Khalsa> I think i'll probably query the server ops of the servers I like and see if I can't finagle the settings out of them
22:07 <wrtlprnft> you can just look at the messages that scroll by when you join a server
22:08 <wrtlprnft> they don't tell you about all settings, but about the most important ones
22:08 <wrtlprnft> things like scoring don't get displayed, but you should be able to figure that out yourself
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22:20 <DrJoeTron> spidey
22:20 <DrJoeTron> spidey
22:20 <DrJoeTron> spidey
22:28 <spidey> DrJoeTron,
22:28 <spidey> DrJoeTron,
22:28 <spidey> DrJoeTron,
22:28 <DrJoeTron> fortress forever was released
22:28 <DrJoeTron> free
22:28 <DrJoeTron> you
22:28 <DrJoeTron> get
22:28 <DrJoeTron> since you own SDK Base
22:28 <spidey> ?
22:29 <spidey> you'll have to wait till i compile the newest cvs of wine :p
22:29 <DrJoeTron> http://www.fortress-forever.com/
22:29 <DrJoeTron> more like you'll have to
22:29 <spidey> not really
22:29 <DrJoeTron> i have to wait for the buttorrent to finish
22:29 <spidey> because i don't care if i have it or not.
22:30 <DrJoeTron> this will be great untill tf2 comes out
22:30 <DrJoeTron> its 8000 times better than suckulous
22:30 <spidey> then
22:30 <spidey> go play the fucking thing.
22:31 <spidey> i'll stick to tremulous
22:31 <DrJoeTron> i cant
22:32 <spidey> sucks to be you
22:32 <DrJoeTron> <DrJoeTron> i have to wait for the buttorrent to finish
22:32 <spidey> <spidey> sucks to be you
22:32 <DrJoeTron> haha i offended tremulous
22:33 <spidey> haha i don't care
22:34 <DrJoeTron> or buttulous
22:36 <spidey> or stfulous
22:38 <DrJoeTron> or spidulous
22:39 <epsy> hmm
22:39 <epsy> cu
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22:45 <spidey> playing tremulous while in a bad mood leads to massive admin abuse
22:45 <spidey> >.>
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23:31 <spidey> nub
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23:51 <Khalsa> :-(
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Log from 2007-09-14:
--- Day changed Fri Sep 14 2007
00:14 <spidey> Khalsa, pooned :p
00:15 <Khalsa> tyeah newbie abuse >_>
00:17 <spidey> rofl
00:17 <spidey> yay
00:18 <spidey> steam installed...now to get cs:s working and i can format the 70+gigs of the windows partition and use it for storage since i'm almost out now :(
00:18 -!- P4|away is now known as P4
00:21 <spidey> awe
00:21 <spidey> steam's using 20% of the ram =/
00:32 <luke-jr> ...
00:41 <spidey> ...
00:41 <spidey> luke-jr, ...
00:41 <spidey> caps + . should do like, a bold .
00:45 <Khalsa> luke-jr: how come every server shows up twice here: http://beta.armagetronad.net/serverlist.php ? (other than the beta monikor of course)
00:52 <luke-jr> Khalsa: no clue; want to fix it?
00:52 <luke-jr> spidey: !!!
00:52 <spidey> luke-jr, wtf you want
00:53 <luke-jr> spidey: u
00:53 <luke-jr> http://tinyurl.com/2n34vv
00:54 <spidey> luke-jr, try using a proxy that doesn't suck
00:55 <spidey> just
00:55 <spidey> give me the direct link, pusseh :P
00:55 <luke-jr> http://rqz3ol23ez3ydshq.onion:911/
00:55 <spidey> not to tor...
00:55 <luke-jr> it's a tor site
00:56 <spidey> yea well
00:56 <spidey> server not found
00:56 <luke-jr> http://tinyurl.com/2n34vv
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02:32 <Vanhayes> luke-jr: Lucifer_arma spidey GodTodd Anyone Freeciv
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03:08 <P4> Vanhayes: try this intead :D http://www.scorched3d.co.uk/downloads.php
03:08 <P4> http://www.scorched3d.co.uk/screens.php :D
03:08 <P4> this is damn greate classic remake :D
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03:10 <P4> anyway got to sleep, hope you'll enjoy ;>
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03:54 <Vanhayes> P4|away: heh we found that game in here about a year ago
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04:15 <GodTodd> what game?
04:21 <Vanhayes> scothed3d
04:21 <Vanhayes> scortched 3d*
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04:59 <Lucifer_arma> *scorched3d
05:01 <Durka> Lucifer_arma: !!!
05:07  * Durka sigh
05:16 <Durka> #armaservers
05:16 <armabot> Durka: This data is 52 seconds old; Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), Swampland in 0.2.8 (7/8), >3D> Eternal Destiny Clan Server ~{DF}~ (6/16), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (5/14), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (5/12), Norm's Place (4/12), Wild West  =Sumo= (3/14), Strawberry Fields (3/16), ~"XzL.Clan The Server (3/12), ~:P1|People's Legion ~:SealBar:· (2/16), Wild West  =Fortress (1 more message)
05:16 <Durka> #serverinfo =sumo
05:16 <armabot> Durka: Wild West  =Sumo=: Players (3/14): help im a bug, Obey, preSs
05:16 <Durka> BUG!
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05:39 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: some day I hope you'll learn to just ask your question
05:39 <Durka> :D
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> you'll get most of your questions answered that way, just by waiting around for someone to come and answer
05:39 <Durka> Can I run the Fall AFL?
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> otherwise, you have to wait for the person you want to talk to to be here when you are
05:40 <Durka> good point ^^ :P
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> you got time?  ;)
05:40 <Durka> I've got 'enough'
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> did you read my post on time commitments?
05:40 <Durka> yes
05:40 <Durka> this is what I planned
05:41 <Durka> basically:
05:41 <Durka> 1.
05:41 <Durka> 1. Allow a signup period
05:41 <Durka> 2. Finalize Rosters
05:41 <Durka> 3. Make a  schedule in which every team plays against every team (round-robin)
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> *twice
05:42 <Durka> ok
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> (although you could just schedule them to be on the same night, one game on one server, the other game on the other)
05:42 <Durka> 3. Make a schedule in which every team plays against every team twice (round-robin)
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> it's correcting for lag :)
05:42 <Durka> Yes good point, but I figure
05:42 <Durka> if someone can't make game X, then they are missing 2 games really
05:43 <Durka> game X and game X +1 per say
05:43 <Durka> also, I was thinking making the games best of 5
05:43 <Durka> makes it more enjoyable you know?
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> not sure about that, remember the summer was brief
05:43 <Durka> best of 3's are like 'quickies'
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> also, are you planning on playing, too?
05:43 <Durka> yes...
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> that's going to be a bone of contention with me, because it's a conflict of interest
05:45 <Lucifer_arma> that's also a reason I wound up without much help in the summer :/
05:45 <Durka> I don't see how I would affect anything though
05:45 <Durka> I will keep the same times as the last AFL, they seemed to work...I don't quite know if I will be able to make the games but o well
05:45 <Durka> moving on: 4. Have people play the games and record the results
05:45 <Durka> 5. Organize a single-elimination playoffs (top 2 teams during the season being rewarded with byes)
05:45 <Lucifer_arma> if you want to run one "your way", and still use the AFL name, you should call it "Durka's AFL"
05:45 <Lucifer_arma> if you want to run the AFL Fall season that logically follows the summer, then you have to work with me :)
05:46 <Durka> I don't see the conflict of interest?
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> blind?
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> let's say someone on the other team accuses you of cheating
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> where's your impartial judge to make the call?
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> aha!  You don't have one!
05:46 <Durka> Monkey
05:46 <Durka> heh ;)
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> Monkey?  Impartial?
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> I laugh at your version of reality
05:46 <Durka> XD
05:47 <Durka> what do you mean by cheating?
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> besides, Monkey'll be playing too, how can you be sure he won't be the accuser?  ;)
05:47 <Durka> er, how about the server admin?
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> lots of ways to cheat
05:47 <Durka> z-man, wrtl, manta, spidey
05:47 <Durka> besides, I can
05:47 <Durka> i can't be at every match watching,
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> one way that comes to mind is when there's a borderline call between two other teams, and you make the decision in a way that directly benefits your team
05:47 <Durka> what type of 'borderline' call?
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> we determined over the summer that nobody *has* to be at every match watching, the recordings are what matters
05:48 <Durka> I understand what you're getting at, but you're being a bit too vague
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> well, like, "They showed up 15 minutes late, that's a forfeit!", and it's the crappy team saying that
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> a bit too vague?  maybe a bit too much of "expecting you to just see what's obvious"  :)
05:48 <Durka> well, you have to have SET rules right?
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> yes, but no ruleset can cover every possible eventuality
05:49 <Durka> before the tournament starts, have set rules
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> how about this, a team just dropped a couple of players, and they're now under the limit
05:49 <Durka> but the thing is
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> they want to add 2 more players, and the two they found are really good
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> the rules don't say you can't add more players, they say you have to have league approval after the rosters are finalized
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> so their next game is against your team
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> what do you say?
05:50 <Lucifer_arma> obviously your answer might be different if it was in the first part of the season than in the last, as an impartial judge
05:50 <Lucifer_arma> but you're not an impartial judge
05:50 <Lucifer_arma> similarly, the forfeit will affect rankings.  maybe as a player you need the game to be played so you'll face the crappy team in the first part of the playoffs and advance, and hope the good team gets knocked out
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> in the player add situation, you could realistically stall until after your game with them, and then approve the add
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> can they say you fucked them over?  No, but they can say you dragged your heels when it was to your team's advantage
05:51 <Durka> how about avoiding this completely beforehand: you cannot add players to your team during the season
05:51 <Durka> simple enough
05:51 <Durka> how about increasing it to 6 vs 6 and allowing each team to carry 12 players
05:51 <Durka> this will cover for absences
05:51 <Durka> the only debatable issues i can see are
05:51 <Durka> 1. adding/droping players
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> I'm not saying you'll do all or any of this
05:51 <Durka> 2. players showing up late
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> I had three teams asking to add players for various reasons during the short summer season :)
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> besides, these are just examples
05:52 <Durka> yes, yes
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> for every rule you make, there's going to be at least one realistic borderline case that could come up, and the more games and teams you have, the more likely those border cases are to come up
05:53 <Durka> well, i ran the durka land world cup over the summer
05:53 <Durka> and I've pretty much seen every situation
05:53 <Durka> how about this
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> I have very little doubt that you'll make good decisions, but once you let yourself in as a player and a judge, how can you say to someone else (who you know will take advantage of their position) "No, you can't judge and play"
05:53 <Durka> i'll go ahead and work on it
05:53 <Durka> how about i'm not a judge?
05:53 <Durka> simple enough?
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> like I say, if you want to keep the AFL name and do it "your way", just ccall it Durka's AFL and do what you want :)
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> but if you want to work with me on another AFL, I want to avoid the conflict of interest :)
05:54 <Durka> who said i want to work with you ;)
05:54 <Durka> ;)
05:54 <Durka> kidding
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> heh
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> we might be able to work around it together, but I'm in chaos right now
05:54 <Durka> realistically, i'll just not be a judge
05:55 <Durka> i'll just manage the schedule
05:55 <Lucifer_arma> my wife's position just got cut, so our income is down to $240/month for now
05:55 <Lucifer_arma> I can't make *any* time commitment to this
05:55 <Durka> you can't say i'll be fixing the schedule since it'll be a round-robin
05:55 <Durka> well, i'll only need you for disputes, and hopefully there won't be any
05:55 <Durka> i'll write up some rules
05:55 <Durka> and i would like your feedback?
05:55 <Lucifer_arma> you're right.  :)  I did let Epsy do a lot of stuff that was safely out of the conflict of interest area
05:56 <Lucifer_arma> the rules we ran worked fine, all you need to do is set dates
05:56 <Lucifer_arma> I found the long registration period failed miserably, so just try to keep it reasonable
05:56 <Durka> if we have a set rulebook that covers the majority of cases, i won't need you much
05:56 <Lucifer_arma> and it might be too late to reasonably play the championship before christmas
05:56 <Durka> well, if we allow a short signup period, that's the best thing probably
05:57 <Durka> for example: hoop got a lot of players on his team in like 3 days, but then they forgot about the tournament
05:57 <Durka> since it didn't start for another 3 weeks
05:57 <Durka> and besides, we pretty much know the teams anyways
05:57 <Durka> CT, x, SP, kod, monkey's team, hoop's revitalized team, DS, GP?
05:58 <Lucifer_arma> oops might rally :)
05:58 <Durka> if we can get 8 semi-good sized teams, we should be up and running, anyways, i'll write up some rules and we can continue from there
05:58  * Lucifer_arma is confused
05:58 <Lucifer_arma> aren't rules already written?  ;)
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> you should just revise those, if any changes are needed :)
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> also, there were a couple of outstanding issues from the summer
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> 1.  There were a few players that signed up and then couldn't play on sundays.  An alternate day is definitely needed, but how well it'll work out, I don't know
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> 2.  There were a few players that signed up and then couldn't play at all because of the time it happened, and others still that didn't sign up at all for that reason
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> so there may be more teams
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> if we do this, and wind up with more than 8 teams, then the schedule will need more thought
06:02 <Lucifer_arma> one more thing, if we do this together, then I want a disclaimer somewhere to the effect of "Durka volunteered and is the reason this season can happen, and is well-respected and won't cheat, and Luci's there when impartiality is required"
06:02 <Lucifer_arma> not a big deal, just a footnote somewhere really
06:03 <Durka> np
06:03 <Durka> revisal of the rules is what i meant
06:03 <Durka> the thing is though, the majority of the players CAN play on sundays...and sundays are best for the majority
06:04 <Durka> this is why the ladle worked so well
06:04 <Durka> any day during the week is out of the question
06:04 <Durka> and saturdays are ify
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> I actually had quite a few players ask for the wednesday games we'd originally planned
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> do this, on the sign up page, ask players to specify best time to play
06:08 <Lucifer_arma> you know, say something like "Put your name and the best time for you to play"
06:08 <Lucifer_arma> "Note: we're not guaranteeing you'll be able to play at the time you asked for, but we need your input on the schedule"
06:08 <Lucifer_arma> :)
06:08 <Lucifer_arma> also, if you get a google account, I can give you write access to the google AFL calendar
06:08 <Durka> well, wednesday's suck for americans since europeans don't like playing at 3 am
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> people found it useful, as long as it's updated :)
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> just ask when people want to play, and then we'll see.  Hopefully people will just answer honestly when they want to play
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> then when you make the schedule, if you notice that the two teams playing both prefer a different time/day, you can give it to them :)
06:10 <Khalsa> <internet_reference> Caturday! </internet_reference>
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> Khalsa: how was the hurricane?
06:10 <Khalsa> didn't touch houston
06:10 <Khalsa> went east
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> cat 1 hurricane anyway, if it had been bigger it would have hurt you :)
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> weird though that it formed in like one day
06:10 <Khalsa> east texas, lousiana, and missori got the brunt of it
06:11  * Lucifer_arma is thinking of starting a hurricanewatchers irc channel
06:12 <Khalsa> chanserv points to ##hurican and #wiki-hurricanes
06:13 <Khalsa> ##hurricane *
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> there's only one person in there, and I suspect he's a bot
06:14 <Khalsa> lol forwards to ##earth
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07:11 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.weather.com/newscenter/tropical/index.html?from=hurricane_welcome  <--- another tropical storm
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07:18 <MrBougo> hiho
07:18 <wrtlprnft> hi
07:18 <MrBougo> woot! someone!
07:27 <tramshed> hae
07:27 <MrBougo> someone else!
07:27 <tramshed> im setting up my dualheads on gentoo right now
07:27 <tramshed> got em working fine, cept I cant drag windows between the two
07:27 <tramshed> I did just have two armagetrons running at once on diff screens with hardware accel though, which was kind of cool
07:27  * wrtlprnft has no experience with that
07:28 <wrtlprnft> now you just need two keyboards and have each control another instance of arma
07:28 <wrtlprnft> possible with MPX iirc
07:29 <tramshed> yeah, Ive set up a dual head system like that before
07:29 <tramshed> two kbs, two mice
07:29 <tramshed> two people.
07:29 <tramshed> this system has enough nuts I might be able to run two ut2k4s at the same time
07:30  * wrtlprnft is happy with 40fps on arma
07:32 <tramshed> hmm
07:32 <tramshed> it wont let me run two at once
07:32 <tramshed> I think thats a ut thing though
07:33 <wrtlprnft> tried running them as different users?
07:35 <MrBougo> bye
07:35 <MrBougo> schoolz
07:35 <MrBougo> wrtlprnft: im happy with 50 fps and 150 ping
07:35 <MrBougo> :D
07:36 <MrBougo> even though i dont play arma much these days
07:36 <MrBougo> i think theres at least one gramatical error in my premious message
07:36 <MrBougo> i dont like this feeling
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07:51 <tramshed> hmm
07:51 <tramshed> diff users is a good plan
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.snopes.com/horrors/gruesome/hanging.asp
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10:18 <Lucifer_arma>  	 Zach P.: "Premarital sex isn't worth it! You can catch AIDS, or cancer, or testicle weevils, or a bad body image or rickets. You know what IS worth it? Making love to Jesus. Because you can't knock Him up and He'll never ask what you're thinking – cuz He already knows!"
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13:25 <deja_vu> >:D
13:26 <wrtlprnft> o_O
13:26 <wrtlprnft> The Font is back online
13:27 <deja_vu> i'm not a font
13:27 <deja_vu> oh wait
13:27 <deja_vu> maybe i am
13:28 <deja_vu> if i was a font i could hurt you with razor-sharp serifs >:P
13:32 <wrtlprnft> x_X
13:32 <wrtlprnft> i think a sans- serif font would be better
13:33 <deja_vu> hehe :)
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16:40 <guru3> wrtlprnft: you there?
16:50 <MrBougo> http://www.bash.org/?803904
16:50 <MrBougo> haah
16:50 <MrBougo> wrtlprnft should be there
16:50 <MrBougo> he's taking his 5 minutes of idleness
16:50 <guru3> wrtlprnft: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=191812#191812
16:51 <MrBougo> sorry, i clicked
16:54 <Khalsa> is there someway to custom connect to a server not running on ports 45xx ?
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17:06 <spidey> Khalsa, yes
17:07 <spidey> network -> custom connect
17:07 <spidey> at the main screen
17:09 <Khalsa> yeah, but I cant seem to change the ports beyond anything 45xx
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17:53 <spidey> hm
17:54 <Khalsa> anyways I gave up. Finally figured out school blocks all UDP traffic :-(
17:55 <spidey> you're right
17:56 <Lucifer_arma> mine too
17:56 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, why doesn't tron let you go above 4550?
17:56 <Lucifer_arma> but not tcp traffic, so I could theoretically play freeciv at school
17:56 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: there's no technical reason for it, and if you set the server to a higher port, the client will connect to it just fine
17:57 <spidey> yea
17:57 <Lucifer_arma> it's just there's a ui widget that limits the choices is all ;)
17:57 <spidey> but there's no way to custom connect to it =/
17:57 <Khalsa> yeah  you can edit user.cfg
17:57 <Khalsa> and I think it works that way
17:57 <Lucifer_arma> put your custom connect server in the lower ports and the servers that are on the master server browser in the higher ports
17:57 <spidey> o
17:59 <Khalsa> I tried like 40 differnt solutions, only 1 left, but i'm too lazy now to do it
17:59 <Khalsa> im pretty sure it'll work, dunno how well though
18:00 <Lucifer_arma> you can put it manually in the er, whatever it's called
18:00  * Lucifer_arma is sleepy
18:00  * Lucifer_arma goes to smoke a cigarette
18:00 <Khalsa> lol
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18:21 <wrtlprnft> guru3: answered
18:21 <wrtlprnft> #later tell *mougo* more like 100 minutes of idleness
18:21 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
18:22 <Lucifer_arma> if you sneeze 7 times in a row, you'll have an orgasm
18:22 <wrtlprnft> never noticed that
18:23 <wrtlprnft> happened when dusting out my server
18:23 <wrtlprnft> de-dusting? dedustifying?
18:24 <wrtlprnft> (sorry to all the native english speakers in here, just don't at my abuses of your language)
18:24 <wrtlprnft> *don't look at*
18:26 <Khalsa> English is overrated
18:26 <spidey> de-wrtlprnft? de-wrtlprnfting?
18:27  * spidey gives wrtlprnft a aterix
18:27 <spidey> asterix*
18:28 <wrtlprnft> f**c* *o* *p**ey
18:28 <spidey> lol
18:29 <wrtlprnft> it
18:29 <MaZuffeR> did anything important happen during the three months i was gone?
18:29 <wrtlprnft> 's sad if you can read that sentence
18:29 <spidey> MaZuffeR, yes
18:29 <spidey> SPAM!
18:29 <wrtlprnft> not really as far as i know
18:29 <wrtlprnft> actually
18:29 <wrtlprnft> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=17381
18:30 <wrtlprnft> so something important did happen ;)
18:30 <MaZuffeR> i wouldn't classify that as important
18:31 <wrtlprnft> pfft ;)
18:32 <wrtlprnft> just kidding, but i do think it's fun to use and great for making maps
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19:01 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, lots of important things happened while maz was gone
19:01 <Lucifer_arma> I just don't remember any of them
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19:39 <spidey> bwahaha
19:39 <spidey> now if i can just get xfire to work
19:39 <spidey> i can delete my windows partitions and run linux now :D
19:40 <spidey> cs:s + warrock work in wine to a playable extent :)
19:49 <MrBougo> brb
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19:55 <GodTodd> hmmm have we had our terrorist/presidential attack yet?
20:00  * GodTodd thnks praps luke-jr s n hs bnkr sf frm bsh
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20:05 <GodTodd> lk-jr*
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20:14 <epsy> http://bash.org/?803851
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20:22 <luke-jr> GodTodd: if I could afford a bunker
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20:56 <epsy> lol at Jovan20's tor hostmask
20:56 <epsy> :)
20:56 <epsy> #q
20:57 <armabot> epsy: Quote #29: "It was like playing a game with a ping of 3000. -- John Carmack, Founder, Armadillo Aerospace" (added by GodTodd at 05:34 AM, October 29, 2006)
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21:01 <guru3> wrtlprnft: did some research before and it looks like it's not getting the map_model correctly
21:18 <guru3> wrtlprnft: found me problem
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21:46 <epsy> http://bash.org/?9322
22:00 <wrtlprnft> seen funnier things
22:00 <wrtlprnft> it doesn't even look correct :D
22:04 <epsy> http://bash.org/?400459
22:04 <epsy> http://bash.org/?258908
22:09 <epsy> or even this http://bash.org/?362137
22:10 <wrtlprnft> lol @ the p2p one
22:10 <epsy> heh
22:10 <epsy> <studdud> what the fuck is wtf
22:10 <wrtlprnft> old one
22:11 <epsy> #luke-kr_work what the fuck is wtf
22:11 <epsy> oops
22:11 <epsy> #luke-j_work what the fuck is wtf
22:11 <epsy> #luke-jr_work what the fuck is wtf
22:11 <armabot> ♪ what the fuck is wtf is obsolete. ♫
22:11 <spidey> epsy, wrong
22:12 <spidey> #luke-jr_work what the fuck
22:12 <armabot> ♪ what the fuck is obsolete. ♫
22:12 <spidey> that sounds more like luke
22:12 <epsy> lol spidey
22:12 <spidey> then you'll be like, well what isn't?
22:12 <spidey> he'll be like wtf
22:13 <epsy> what the fuck do you mean with wtf?
22:13 <wrtlprnft> #luke-jr_work wtf is not an internationally accepted acronym. Therefore it
22:13 <armabot> ♪ wtf is not an internationally accepted acronym. Therefore it is obsolete. ♫
22:13 <luke-jr> ...
22:14 <wrtlprnft> what RFC defines WTF?
22:14 <wrtlprnft> there *must* be one
22:14 <epsy> why the fuck would the RFC define the fucking infuckingcredible wtf?
22:16 <wrtlprnft> well, they define SHOULD, MUST, MUST NOT, and all that
22:16 <wrtlprnft> http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2119.html
22:17 <epsy> oww that's fucked
22:21 <luke-jr> lol
22:26 <wrtlprnft> not to mention all the pigeon stuff
22:26 <wrtlprnft> *pidgeon?
22:26 <spidey> pidgin!
22:26 <epsy> gaim!
22:26 <wrtlprnft> pfft
22:26 <spidey> rofl
22:26 <wrtlprnft> irssi! kopete!
22:27 <spidey> xchat!
22:27 <epsy> gajim!
22:27 <wrtlprnft> netcat!
22:27 <spidey> wtf's that
22:27 <epsy> MSN!
22:27 <luke-jr> konversation!
22:27 <wrtlprnft> #man netcat
22:27 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
22:27 <wrtlprnft> pfft
22:27 <luke-jr> #man nc
22:27 <armabot> luke-jr: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
22:27 <luke-jr> pfft
22:27 <epsy> #man sh
22:27 <armabot> epsy: sh - shell, the standard command language interpreter
22:28 <spidey> #man epsy
22:28 <armabot> spidey: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
22:28 <epsy> #man spidey
22:28 <armabot> epsy: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
22:28 <wrtlprnft> Netcat is a simple Unix utility which reads and writes data across network connections, using TCP or UDP protocol.  It is designed to be a reliable "back-end" tool that can be used directly or easily driven by other programs and scripts.  At the same time, it is a feature-rich network debugging and exploration tool,
22:28 <wrtlprnft>  since it can create amost any kind of connection you would need and has several intderesting built-in capa- bilities.  Netcat, or "nc" as the original program was named, should have been supplied long ago as another one of those cryptic but standard Unix tools.
22:28 <wrtlprnft> from its manpage
22:28 <luke-jr> that's a lame description
22:28  * epsy wonders why wrtlprnft and armabot shares the same nick color on his client
22:28 <luke-jr> how dare they define what I would need?
22:29 <wrtlprnft> epsy: hostname?
22:29 <epsy> i guess so or course :p
22:29 <epsy> of
22:29 <wrtlprnft> well, netcat is great :D
22:30 <luke-jr> netcat is rarely useful
22:30 <luke-jr> socat is better
22:30 <luke-jr> netcat only works with TCP and UDP
22:30 <wrtlprnft> enough for me
22:30 <luke-jr> and BASH itself supports outgoing TCP connections
22:30 <wrtlprnft> only if you enable it
22:30 <luke-jr> so really netcat is only useful for raw UDP communication or incoming TCP connections
22:30 <luke-jr> and for incoming connections, only 1 at a time
22:31 <luke-jr> socat at least supports UNIX sockets
22:31 <spidey> luke-jr, no way!
22:31 <epsy> yes way!
22:31 <luke-jr> btw, has anyone tested the new ebuilds yet?
22:31 <wrtlprnft> #luke-jr_work netcat
22:32 <armabot> ♪ netcat is obsolete. ♫
22:32 <spidey> which reminds me, think i'ma try freebsd since the windows partitions are gone
22:32 <luke-jr> spidey: have you ever heard of qemu?
22:32 <wrtlprnft> the old ones work fine for me right now
22:32 <spidey> qemu?
22:32 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: with FEATURES=-strict
22:32 <wrtlprnft> #luke-jr_work qemu
22:32 <armabot> ♪ qemu is obsolete. ♫
22:32 <wrtlprnft> i never noticed any harm from FEATURES=-strict
22:33  * wrtlprnft loves that alias
22:33 <spidey> it's basically vmware?
22:33 <wrtlprnft> same idea
22:33 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: it disabled PGP verification adn stuff
22:33 <luke-jr> spidey: except it's FREE
22:33 <spidey> why do i care about free?
22:34 <spidey> i have over 100gb of pirated movies/music
22:34 <luke-jr> spidey: and the source materials of them?
22:34 <wrtlprnft> Free, not free
22:34 <spidey> i know what he means :p
22:34 <luke-jr> Free, not gratis
22:34 <wrtlprnft> in fact it's FrEe
22:34 <wrtlprnft> or fReE?
22:34  * wrtlprnft doesn't know
22:34 <epsy> http://free.fr/ for 28MB/sec ?
22:35 <epsy> (and lightfiber)
22:35  * epsy stops adverting france
22:35  * wrtlprnft doesn't understand a word
22:35 <wrtlprnft> forgot about everything since grade 10
22:35 <epsy> a word ?
22:35 <spidey> http://free.org/
22:35 <wrtlprnft> on that side
22:35 <spidey> english version
22:36 <epsy> O_o
22:36 <spidey> maybe not
22:36 <epsy> wrtlprnft, http://dictionnaire.sensagent.com/word/en-en/
22:36  * wrtlprnft thinks any language where adjectives in front of a noun can mean something different than after is sort of crazy
22:37 <spidey> the jumped fence dog!
22:37 <luke-jr> I got a gratis 1.3 GHz Duron!
22:37 <epsy> how costs the transport ?
22:37 <wrtlprnft> do you have the source materials?
22:37 <epsy> the power flow ?
22:37 <spidey> i got a flj 1.8ghz duron!
22:37 <wrtlprnft> could you build one yourself from the sources?
22:38 <epsy> 3 GHz intel P4-M
22:38 <spidey> flj = fuck luke jr
22:38 <spidey> :D
22:38 <epsy> hyperthreading and other shit we don't care about with
22:38 <luke-jr> !
22:38 <luke-jr> someone spammed #luke-jrisanasshat the other day
22:38 <luke-jr> kinda funny, IMO
22:39 <luke-jr> (no, it wasn't me)
22:39 <spidey> was so
22:39 <luke-jr> liar
22:39 <spidey> am not
22:39 <spidey> i saw it
22:39 <wrtlprnft> http://xkcd.com/316/
22:39 <luke-jr> liar
22:39 <spidey> am isn't
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22:40 <spidey> amarok > luke-jr
22:41 <epsy> #tea
22:41 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: No online players.
22:41 <epsy> #bugfarm
22:42 <epsy> #elim
22:42 <epsy> ~sd elim
22:42 <epsy> #sd elim
22:42 <armabot> epsy: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “elim” at the moment, sorry.
22:42 <epsy> #sd bugfar
22:42 <armabot> epsy: Bugfarm Elimination Sumo: Players (13/16): Player 1, Player 2, Soups, SP.Minefield, |B|one, |PwN|ShåÐè1, |x| FoFo, ~YY~ Gazelle, ~{GP}~Spot, ¦×¥Flex, ¦×¥Rico, ¼µ½·Gun, ¼µ½·GªLª­
22:42 <epsy> fort > sumo -
22:42 <epsy> -.-
22:44  * epsy slaps....himself
22:45  * spidey slaps epsy
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23:08 <epsy> *** Quits: TITANIC (Excess Flood)
23:08 <epsy> i'm definitively on bash quotes this evening
23:11 <epsy> http://bash.org/?13213
23:20 <spidey> there's a better one on there
23:21 <spidey> that one was probably a rip off of it :p
23:21 <spidey> it's where a guy named NEW ORLEANS quits for excess flood
23:21 <epsy> eeww
23:25 <Vanhayes> ahahaha the CAD is almost equal to the USD
23:25 <luke-jr> ...
23:26 <Vanhayes> its 97 cents to your dollar
23:26 <luke-jr> so?
23:26 <luke-jr> wait
23:26 <epsy> stfu Vanhayes -.-
23:26 <luke-jr> since when
23:26 <Vanhayes> and since everything is cheaper in the US and the lowest minimum wage in canada is about 7 bucks we can get what ever we want
23:26 <luke-jr> ...
23:27 <Vanhayes> we will invade yo with tourists and buy everything
23:27  * luke-jr stabs Konqueror for forcing dvorak
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00:00 <GodTodd> luke-jr: it takes a modicum of earning potential to be able to afford a bunker :)
00:05 <GodTodd> and in case that's an alien concept to you...that means present and future ability to do something useful enough that someone will pay you money to do it
00:36 <spidey> <Myst> It would, however, be funnier.
00:36 <spidey> <Myst> Since Canadians are funnier by nature.
00:36 <spidey> <WTM2K> just because we laugh at you doesn't mean you're funny
00:36 <spidey> hahaha's@hayes
00:36 <spidey> :D
00:54 <wrtlprnft> that you laugh at canadians means you're not funny at all, so canadians have to be funnier
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01:31 <spidey> wrtlprnft, that made no sense as a response to what i copy/pasted :p
01:32 <spidey> "just because we laugh at you doesn't mean you're funny" <---that isn't saying we laugh at them because they're not funny
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01:54 <Lucifer_arma> oh fuck, the CAD is almost the same as the USD?
01:54 <Lucifer_arma> we are sooo fucked
02:27 <spidey> http://www.downloadsquad.com/2007/09/13/how-to-install-145-operating-systems-on-one-pc/
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02:51 <Lucifer_arma> #seen n54
02:51 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: n54 was last seen in #armagetron 1 year, 13 weeks, 3 days, 21 hours, 57 minutes, and 56 seconds ago: <n54> hi mom :)
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03:08 <Vanhayes> Freeciv, come on
03:14 <Vanhayes> Lucifer_arma: luke-jr GodTodd spidey ping
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03:38 <Lucifer_arma> no!
03:38 <Lucifer_arma> too much to do, too little time
03:38 <Lucifer_arma> man, didn't someone say something like "after the semester starts, I may not be able to play again for awhile"?
03:39 <Lucifer_arma> even if I found freeciv time right now, I'd have to spend it on eugenics, i think
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03:47 <Vanhayes> freeciv... come on javent played in so long
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06:57 <Vanhayes> WOW,  my monitor just flip everything so now the bottom is to my right and the right is now the top
06:57 <Vanhayes> out of no where
06:58 <Vanhayes> im so confused
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07:43 <spidey> ROFL
07:43  * spidey wonders if hayes knows he probably hit a hotkey for his graphics driverrs
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08:09 <MrBougo> spidey: ??
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17:20 <MrBougo> OH MY
17:20 <MrBougo> Lucifer_arma: help me
17:20 <MrBougo> my dad wants to learn visual basic
17:20 <MrBougo> how do i have to tell him that its a bad idea
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18:04 <luke-jr> MrBougo: tell him to get a clue
18:04 <luke-jr> :)
18:04 <MrBougo> :(
18:15 <epsy> ######################## REQUIRED PATHS ########################
18:15 <epsy> music_directory                 "/"
18:16 <epsy> i wish'd mpd could append as many dirs as we like
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18:57 <luke-jr> epsy: just use the default music_directory and symlink from it
18:59 <epsy> that's what i just did :p
18:59 <epsy> but it's still crap as that dir has to be a+rwx
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20:12 <epsy> wrtlprnft, ping
20:12 <epsy> wrtlprnft, café is fucked
20:12 <epsy> wrtlprnft, huhu
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20:25 <luke-jr> epsy: it doesn't...
20:26 <luke-jr> epsy: mine is a+rx, but it works with only o+rwx
20:27 <MrBougo> whatcha talking about?
20:31 <epsy> #last --with music
20:31 <armabot> epsy: [18:56:16] <luke-jr> epsy: just use the default music_directory and symlink from it
20:31 <epsy> #last --with /
20:31 <armabot> epsy: [18:14:13] <epsy> music_directory                 "/"
20:39 <MrBougo> #last --with &
20:39 <armabot> MrBougo: [23:34:40] <luke-jr> http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/cia_hayden_warning/2007/09/07/30766.html?s=al&promo_code=39AB-1
20:39 <MrBougo> #last --with |
20:39 <armabot> MrBougo: [04:00:38] <Vanhayes> P4|away: heh we found that game in here about a year ago
20:47 <epsy> #last --with #last
20:47 <armabot> epsy: [20:37:58] <MrBougo> #last --with |
20:47 <MrBougo> :p
20:47 <MrBougo> #last --with last --with test
20:48 <armabot> MrBougo: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 50000 messages.
20:48 <epsy> #last --with #last --with #last
20:48 <armabot> epsy: [20:46:12] <MrBougo> #last --with last --with test
20:48 <MrBougo> nah epsy
20:48 <epsy> #last --with #last --with #last --with #last
20:48 <armabot> epsy: [20:46:36] <epsy> #last --with #last --with #last
20:48 <MrBougo> the 2nd --with belongs to the main command
20:48 <epsy> #last --with #last --with #last --with #last --with #last
20:48 <armabot> epsy: [20:46:53] <epsy> #last --with #last --with #last --with #last
20:48 <epsy> #last --with #last --with #last --with #last --with #last --with #last
20:48 <armabot> epsy: [20:46:59] <epsy> #last --with #last --with #last --with #last --with #last
20:48 <MrBougo> #last --with "#last --with last"
20:48 <armabot> MrBougo: [20:46:12] <MrBougo> #last --with last --with test
20:48 <MrBougo> see
20:49 <MrBougo> #last --from zmanuel
20:49 <armabot> MrBougo: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 50000 messages.
20:49 <MrBougo> #last
20:49 <armabot> MrBougo: [20:47:37] <MrBougo> #last --from zmanuel
20:49 <MrBougo> #help last
20:49 <armabot> MrBougo: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; (1 more message)
20:49 <MrBougo> #more
20:49 <armabot> MrBougo: --nolimit returns all the messages that can be found. By default, the channel this command is given in is searched.
20:50 <MrBougo> last --regex e.+p+.s+.y
20:50 <MrBougo> #last --regex e.+p+.s+.y
20:50 <armabot> MrBougo: Error: 'e.+p+.s+.y' is not a valid regular expression.
20:50 <MrBougo> stfu
20:51 <MrBougo> #last --regex /e.+p+.s+.y/
20:51 <armabot> MrBougo: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 50000 messages.
20:52 <MrBougo> here is a pretty message that the regexy might match
20:52 <MrBougo> #last --regex /e.+p+.s+.y/
20:52 <MrBougo> ok i know whats wrong
20:52 <armabot> MrBougo: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 50000 messages.
20:52 <MrBougo> #last --regex /e.+p.+s.+y/
20:52 <armabot> MrBougo: [20:50:49] <MrBougo> #last --regex /e.+p+.s+.y/
20:52 <MrBougo> stfu
20:52 <MrBougo> here is a pretty message that the regexy might match
20:52 <MrBougo> #last --regex /e.+p.+s.+y/
20:52 <armabot> MrBougo: [20:51:15] <MrBougo> here is a pretty message that the regexy might match
20:53 <MrBougo> #last --regex /e.+p.+s.+y/ --without last --without regexy
20:53 <armabot> MrBougo: [01:30:16] <spidey> wrtlprnft, that made no sense as a response to what i copy/pasted :p
20:53 <MrBougo> epsy: :p
20:54 <MrBougo> <spidey> wrtlprnft, that made no sense as a response to what i copy/pasted :p
20:54 <MrBougo> <spidey> wrtlprnft, that made no sense as a response to what i copy/pasted :p
20:54 <MrBougo> bah
20:54 <MrBougo>  test
20:55 <MrBougo> <spidey> wrtlprnft, that made no sense as a response to what i copy/pasted :p
20:55 <epsy> ?
20:58 <MrBougo> #last --regex /b.+o.+u.+g.+o/
20:58 <armabot> MrBougo: [01:30:46] <spidey> "just because we laugh at you doesn't mean you're funny" <---that isn't saying we laugh at them because they're not funny
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21:28 <Lucifer_arma> MrBougo: tell your dad to learn python instead, and that Google uses python :)
21:28 <MrBougo> yup
21:28 <Lucifer_arma> VB is obsolete, afaik, these days.
21:28 <MrBougo> +1
21:29 <MrBougo> and it's even more obsolete if you dont need any GUI
21:30 <Lucifer_arma> if he insists on using MS only stuff, he should go to .net anyway, I think, and probably work with C#
21:30 <Lucifer_arma> I assume VB has a .net incarnation that he's probably safe to go with, it's just that VB programmers are like the white trash of the programming world
21:31 <Lucifer_arma> you might try using nationalism on him.  :)  Point out that MS has had to exert a lot of pressure on european governments to keep them away from open source tech, and those governments keep trying to get it in somehow
21:32 <Lucifer_arma> it's only in the UK that open source is really struggling, afaik.  Throughout the rest of europe, for the most part, open source is vibrant and only gettin stopped by actual political pressure from MS
21:32 <Lucifer_arma> so, does your dad want to be a part of the reason MS is able to exert that kind of influence in europe?
21:32 <Lucifer_arma> or does he want to be a part of european nations establishing their independence from American hegemony?  ;)
21:33 <Lucifer_arma> kinda sad that politics can play such a role in picking a programming language to learn :/
21:51 <MrBougo> bye
21:51 <MrBougo> yep, i read your messages Lucifer_arma
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22:43 <epsy> why the hell is azureus trying to download stuff that has already finished downloading ???
22:49 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: ping
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23:54 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 0.05*1188
23:54 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 59.4

Log from 2007-09-16:
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00:23 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: pong
00:25 <Lucifer_arma> edit?  :)
00:25 <Lucifer_arma> it's about 1200 words, a little story
00:25  * Lucifer_arma got bit by a muse last night
00:27 <epsy> #lastseen 1200
00:27 <armabot> epsy: 1200 has last been seen on Fortress Café 2 hours 32 minutes ago.
00:27 <epsy> sorry
00:27 <epsy> weird things coming out of my head
00:28 <Lucifer_arma> #lastseen weird things
00:28 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: timed out
00:28 <GodTodd> edit what? :P
00:28 <Lucifer_arma> short story :)
00:28  * GodTodd looks for a short story
00:28 <GodTodd> nope don't see one :P
00:29 <Lucifer_arma> heh
00:29 <GodTodd> need to flesh it out a bit ;)
00:29 <Lucifer_arma> check your pants?
00:29 <GodTodd> no that's a short *sausage* :)
00:29 <Lucifer_arma> can you take files here?
00:29  * Lucifer_arma wonders if he's setup right still to send files
00:29 <GodTodd> dunno...how would i accept it?
00:30 <Lucifer_arma> you should have gotten a new tab that says DCC Status
00:31  * ct|kyle cannot get bootsrtap.sh to work
00:31 <Lucifer_arma> you can use txt2tags comments to make comments in it :)
00:31 <GodTodd> ah...k...received it :)
00:31 <Lucifer_arma> ct|kyle: did you try typing "bootstrap.sh" instead?
00:32 <GodTodd> try boobtraps.sh
00:32 <ct|kyle> lol yes typo in what i said
00:32 <ct|kyle> i get this error
00:32 <ct|kyle> configure:1497: error: possibly undefined macro: _AC_SRCPATHS
00:32 <ct|kyle>       If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow.
00:32 <ct|kyle>       See the Autoconf documentation.
00:32 <Lucifer_arma> eek
00:32 <Lucifer_arma> I hate that error
00:32 <Lucifer_arma> you're running from the trunk?
00:32 <epsy> don't worry it does too
00:33 <ct|kyle> that is what i use  but this is
00:33 <Lucifer_arma> ahhh, from a tarball?
00:33 <ct|kyle> yes
00:33 <Lucifer_arma> or checkout from svn?
00:33 <Lucifer_arma> ok, from a tarball, you don't run bootstrap.sh at all
00:33 <Lucifer_arma> you run configure
00:34 <Lucifer_arma> bootstrap.sh is only for svn checkouts
00:34 <Lucifer_arma> and that error is fixed in the 0.2.8 branch, so if you want to run from the 0.2.8 branch, you'll need to use the branch itself, not one of the tags
00:35 <Lucifer_arma> you might need to delete the directory and uncompress the tarball again if you've accidentally overwritten configure or any of the other build files
00:35 <ct|kyle> i want to install it into a directory to make some recordings using that
00:36 <epsy> (why not removing bootstrap.sh from the TB then ?)
00:37 <Lucifer_arma> epsy: why bother?  Besides, if someone does want to add new build files or whatever, they'll need bootstrap.sh in the tarball
00:37 <Lucifer_arma> it's not just needed for most builds, it's only needed for someone who wants to change the build system somehow
00:37 <Lucifer_arma> in which case you need to rerun bootstrap.sh.  :)
00:38 <Lucifer_arma> if that were the case here, I'd direct him to the 0.2.8 branch again because that bug is fixed there
00:38 <Lucifer_arma> the bug is not really a bug, so much as autoconf removing a deprecated behavior we had been using before
00:39 <ct|kyle> see i want to use your current release to make recordings so the majority of the players can view them
00:39 <Lucifer_arma> right, you don't want to run bootstrap.sh then, you just want to run configure
00:39 <Lucifer_arma> ./configure --prefix=wherever
00:39 <ct|kyle> configure won't work
00:40 <Lucifer_arma> why not?
00:40 <ct|kyle> no suck file or directory
00:40 <ct|kyle> such*
00:40 <ct|kyle> my typing is bad tonight
00:41 <Lucifer_arma> where did you get a tarball that doesn't have configure in it?
00:41 <ct|kyle> http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?groupname=armagetronad&filename=armagetronad-
00:41  * Lucifer_arma is skeptical, and doesn't feel like downloading it right now
00:42 <Lucifer_arma> you should try the .tar.gz tarball then, I've built that one and know it works
00:42 <Lucifer_arma> but there shouldn't be a difference
00:42 <ct|kyle> link
00:42 <Lucifer_arma> either you a) have to delete the directory you're working in and start over (becasue running bootstrap.sh could result in the old configure script being removed/corrupted)
00:42 <Lucifer_arma> b) got a broken download and need to try again
00:43 <Lucifer_arma> or c) I forgot what I was going to put here
00:43 <Lucifer_arma> http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?groupname=armagetronad&filename=armagetronad-
00:43 <Lucifer_arma> er, oops
00:43 <Lucifer_arma> http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?groupname=armagetronad&filename=armagetronad-
00:44 <ct|kyle> A)tried b)possibly c)i forget what you said
00:50 <ct|kyle> Lucifer_arma: thanks
00:50 <ct|kyle> must have been a broken download
00:56 <Lucifer_arma> man, these statics problems just got long :(
00:57 <ct|kyle> statics?
00:57 <Lucifer_arma> I'm 2/3 of a page full and only just now finishing setting up the equations, and it's a system of 3 equations I'm setting up to solve for 3 unknowns
00:57 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, statics
00:58 <ct|kyle> 3 unknowns those are fun ones.
01:00 <ct|kyle> will visual C++ be similar to armagetron's code?
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01:01 <Lucifer_arma> no, visual C++ is written by microsoft and is therefore crappy
01:01 <Lucifer_arma> armagetron is not, they will be quite different :)
01:01 <ct|kyle> that is what i thought
01:01 <Lucifer_arma> actually, that's a cheeky answer
01:01 <Lucifer_arma> I don't understand the question
01:01 <Lucifer_arma> are you asking "Can I use visual c++ to edit armagetron's code?"
01:02 <Lucifer_arma> well, my 3 equations with 3 unknowns just boiled into an easy problem
01:02 <Lucifer_arma> the x equilibrium equation yielded one of my unknowns immediately :)
01:02 <ct|kyle> ah
01:03 <ct|kyle> no my college sucks and is changing from teaching c++ to visual C++
01:04 <ct|kyle> right now all my computer classes need Microsoft windows
01:04 <Lucifer_arma> ah
01:04 <Lucifer_arma> you'll still be learning c++ either way, so I wouldn't sweat it too badly
01:04 <Lucifer_arma> there is a way to edit visual c++ project files directly, but you might consider checking out bakefile
01:05 <Lucifer_arma> for small projects, you could use it to generate vc++ project files and your instructors need not care what compiler you use
01:05 <Lucifer_arma> but you might want to have a way to test them, like an installation of vc++ in a virtual machine or something
01:06 <ct|kyle> ah
01:06 <Lucifer_arma> there are occasional differences in how microsoft interprets the c++ standards compared to how gnu does
01:06 <Lucifer_arma> of course, if tey intend to teach Microsoft APIs, you're fucked
01:06 <Lucifer_arma> you could try running it under wine :)
01:06 <Lucifer_arma> (and then your app under wine)
01:07 <ct|kyle> no it needs .net framework
01:07 <Lucifer_arma> mono?  :)
01:07 <Lucifer_arma> I'd check out bakefile, but it's not terribly well documented
01:07 <ct|kyle> right now i'm using visual basic 6
01:07 <Lucifer_arma> CMake might generate project files
01:08 <ct|kyle> mono does not work for that
01:08 <Lucifer_arma> er, cmake might general vc++ project files
01:08 <ct|kyle> mono may work for visual c++ .net
01:08 <Lucifer_arma> also, it depends on how they intend you to turn in the assignments
01:08 <ct|kyle> ya
01:08 <Lucifer_arma> if they just want you to print up a source code listing, then who gives a shit what program you use?  ;)
01:09 <ct|kyle> if i have the same professor it will just be the source code
01:09 <Lucifer_arma> but if you're supposed to turn in a zip archive with the whole project in it, you'll need some way to generate project files for the instructor
01:10 <ct|kyle> the used to have a linux operating systems class. they don't offer that anymore
01:10 <Lucifer_arma> you could explore an scons-based option.  scons is reasonably well-documented and you could quickly work up boilerplate stuff, but if the class specifies VC++ and you say "install python to build this", you could get in trouble
01:10 <Lucifer_arma> must have gotten some pressure from somewhere
01:11 <ct|kyle> ya
01:12 <ct|kyle> i finally got proof for a theory about Microsoft that i made years ago
01:13 <Lucifer_arma> I feel cheated by this problem
01:13 <Lucifer_arma> one equation had only one unknown.  The next equation had two, but one of them was in the first equation.  The last equation also only had 2, and one of them was known by the time I got to it
01:14 <ct|kyle> wow
01:14 <Lucifer_arma> I guess I can look on the bright side, my answer's wrong
01:14 <Lucifer_arma> 1031 N and I got 669 N
01:14 <ct|kyle> just a little off
01:15 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, but it's a lot of work just to setup the problem, and I have to back through the whole setup and make sure it's right :(
01:15 <ct|kyle> wow
01:15 <Lucifer_arma> probably screwed up an axis somewhere, simple mistake, easy fix, once I find it
01:15  * Lucifer_arma is hungry
01:16 <ct|kyle> i was trying to figure this out
01:16 <ct|kyle> If Microsoft Word is available, use the System Info button to analyze the computer you typically use. Provide the results of the analysis along with a brief description of the computer you tested and its location (at home, at work, in a computer lab, and so on.)
01:17 <ct|kyle> i figured i did not have to do that one
01:18 <Lucifer_arma> Uptime: 3 days, 5 hours and 22 minutes
01:25 <ct|kyle> now i can record for most people and play on my trunk build
01:26 <Lucifer_arma> aha, I screwed up the very last equation
01:26 <Lucifer_arma> I am, however, impressed that I made no mistakes early in the problem :)
01:26 <Lucifer_arma> but in the last equation, for one of the vectors I used its unit vector component, not the vector magnitude * unit vector component :(
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01:29 <Vanhayes> ok, so, does anyone know where the monitor settings are in windows xp?
01:30 <Vanhayes> because having my monitor rotated 90 degrees to the right isnt that fun anymore
01:33 <ct|kyle> CTRL = SHIFT + up arrow
01:33 <ct|kyle> CTRL + SHIFT + up arrow
01:33 <ct|kyle> that should fix it
01:34  * ct|kyle made a program to rotate monitors like that :P
01:35 <Vanhayes> nope, didnt work, must have to set those hot keys
01:36 <ct|kyle> it should be in your video card settings
01:36 <ct|kyle> try right clicking on desktop to get to them
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01:37 <Flex_> hey/greetings
01:37 <ct|kyle> oi Flex_
01:37 <Flex_> hey kyle, sup? :)
01:37 <Vanhayes> ah, nice it was in there, thanks
01:37 <ct|kyle> your welcome
01:37 <Vanhayes> heh, thats alot better
01:37 <ct|kyle> i bet
01:38 <Flex_> what you guys up to..
01:38 <Vanhayes> last night for some reason it just flip on me, i was so confused
01:38 <ct|kyle> if you want to bind those keys i'll send you a program :P
01:38 <Vanhayes> ah ok, the hot key is ctrl+alt+ arrow keys
01:38 <Vanhayes> I must have hit those by accident
01:39 <ct|kyle> o ctrl alt not ctrl shift
01:39 <ct|kyle> its been a while since i used that
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03:08 <Lucifer_arma> so, on an inclined plane, I have a block
03:09 <Lucifer_arma> I have broken it's weight into two components, one perpendicular to the plane and one parallel
03:09 <Lucifer_arma> it's an equilibrium problem, so I'm going to do net force = 0
03:09 <Lucifer_arma> I have the force of the block going into the plane, and the normal force, which are equal and opposite
03:09 <Lucifer_arma> do I have to include those two forces that oppose each other equally in the equilibrium equation?
03:09 <Lucifer_arma> (s)
03:19 <Khalsa> yes
03:20 <Khalsa> because in more advanced equations you can use those forces for functions that make you're life much easier
03:25 <Lucifer_arma> heh, well, here the problem is a guy on an inclined plane of ice suspended by two ropes
03:26 <Lucifer_arma> his weight is given, what's the tension on the ropes (it's 3 dimensions)
03:26 <Lucifer_arma> I have a suspicion that leaving those forces out has thrown off my equations, so rather than restart and add those forces, I'm moving to the next problem
03:26 <Lucifer_arma> I only need to finish one more problem tonight, then I'll have 2 to do for tomorrow, and the homework is due on Monday
03:27 <Lucifer_arma> soon as I finish one more problem, I can study chemistry for awhile :)
03:27 <Lucifer_arma> (or government, or something else)
03:28 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, on the ice man problem, I came up with one rope tension being negative, which is clearly a wrong answer
03:30 <Khalsa> not neccesarily
03:30 <Khalsa> unless you mean actually negative and not x in the "negative" direction
03:30 <Lucifer_arma> tensions are set up as magnitudes
03:30 <Lucifer_arma> no, not in any negative direction.  :)  3 dimensions, you need more than +- to give direction ;)
03:31 <Khalsa> hence the ""
03:31 <Lucifer_arma> I doublechecked all my signs, and I'm confident those are right, which indicates I probably left something out
03:31 <Lucifer_arma> since I *know* I left two forces out....
03:31 <Lucifer_arma> see?  ;)
03:32 <Khalsa> so do it again with those forces
03:34 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, later, maybe tomorrow, when I'll only have two problems left
03:34 <Khalsa> physics 1?
03:35 <Lucifer_arma> heh, no
03:35 <Lucifer_arma> statics
03:37 <Lucifer_arma> course title is "Vector Mechanics - Statics"
03:37 <Khalsa> interesting
03:37 <Lucifer_arma> forces on rigid bodies at equilibrium
03:37 <Khalsa> sounds like a highschool physics problem to me
03:37 <Lucifer_arma> chapter 2, the class just started :)
03:38 <Lucifer_arma> we're mostly reviewing engineering physics 1 right now, making sure we all know how to work with vectors and stuff
03:38 <Lucifer_arma> next chapter we'll be doing the cross/dot products again
03:38 <Khalsa> weeeee fun
03:39 <Lucifer_arma> and the problems aren't phrased as regular physics problems, now they're "engineering" problems, which mostly just affects how they're worded
03:40 <Lucifer_arma> once you cut through the technobabble and draw the free body diagram, you're back to engineering physics :)
03:40 <Lucifer_arma> (here we don't do more than 2 dimensions in anything lower than engineering physics)
03:45 <Khalsa> I miss doing free body diagrams
03:45 <Khalsa> I'm stuck in bullshit classes now
03:45 <Lucifer_arma> business major?
03:46 <Khalsa> it's a complicated and long story
03:47 <Khalsa> but long story short, I was a physics engineering major, did most of the physics and math classes, none of the bs classes (english, govt, etc.)
03:47 <Khalsa> and now i'm changing majors to something like General Businness Admin
03:47 <Khalsa> but i'm still on track for a physics/math degree
03:47 <Khalsa> at 2 schools
03:48 <Lucifer_arma> heh, oops, I guess
03:48 <Khalsa> so now i'm stuck doing those classes I didnt do (history, govt, english)
03:48 <Lucifer_arma> I've only got one pure physics class left, at least, only one class left that's classified physics
03:49 <Lucifer_arma> the rest are engineering, either generic engineering, or aerospace engineering
03:49 <Lucifer_arma> still doing bullshit classes, but I should finish most of them this semester, with only a couple for next semester
03:49 <Lucifer_arma> and I should graduate with an AS in Engineering next spring, before i transfer for the BS in Aerospace Engineering I'm after
03:49 <Khalsa> I liked the physics classes, but couldn't stand the engineering classes
03:50 <Khalsa> which is why i'm no longer doing anything engineeringy
03:50 <Lucifer_arma> why not?
03:50 <Lucifer_arma> too boring?  too hard?  Or just discovered it's not your style after all?
03:51 <Khalsa> not my style, too boring, and I that technical writing/drawing class kicked my ass
03:51 <Khalsa> I cant write strait if my life depended on it
03:51 <Lucifer_arma> really?  I thought the drafting class was the easiest class ever
03:51 <Lucifer_arma> wait, you had to draw on paper for the whole thing?
03:51 <Khalsa> pretty much
03:51 <Lucifer_arma> man, we did a week of paper drawing, and then dived into autocad
03:51 <Khalsa> only last couple weeks was autocad
03:51 <Lucifer_arma> well, my school does have one of the highest ranked drafting programs in the state :)
03:52 <Lucifer_arma> (it might be the highest, I don't really know)
03:55 <Khalsa> I still have bad memories from that drafting class
03:55 <Khalsa> only number I ever drew correctly was '3'
03:59 <ct|kyle> Khalsa: lol  /me hates drafting
03:59 <Khalsa> >.<
03:59 <Lucifer_arma> come down here and take it :)
04:01 <Khalsa> where is here?
04:01 <ct|kyle> I'll cad it but not hand draft it
04:07 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.austincc.edu/cad/index.php
04:08 <ct|kyle> those are easy cad pictures try making a super-mileage car :P
04:08 <ct|kyle> and engine
04:10 <Khalsa> Lucifer_arma: techincally i'd be "coming up" >_>
04:10 <Lucifer_arma> not my fault you live in the gutter
04:11 <Lucifer_arma> ack, well, as long as your normal force points mostly up, relative elevation doesn't matter ;)
04:12 <ct|kyle> nice my recording worked
04:12 <Lucifer_arma> ct|kyle: not with a 2-year degree, you won't ;P
04:14 <ct|kyle> won't waht?
04:14 <ct|kyle> what*
04:16 <Lucifer_arma> [21:08] <ct|kyle> those are easy cad pictures try making a super-mileage car :P
04:16 <ct|kyle> i only had 2 years of cad class
04:17 <ct|kyle> then the year of digital electronics messed up my cad skills
04:23 <Lucifer_arma> http://media.www.utdmercury.com/media/storage/paper691/news/2007/09/04/News/New-Law.Limits.Class.Withdrawals-2951317.shtml
04:26 <Lucifer_arma> well, here's one case where the law doesn't apply to me :)
04:26 <ct|kyle> heh
04:26 <ct|kyle> that is a stupid law
04:32 <luke-jr> my daughter is crazy
04:32 <luke-jr> "Go to mama!" "Yes" (still standing there)
04:34 <ct|kyle> lol
04:34 <ct|kyle> she want you to take her there
04:41 <Vanhayes> she thinks you are her mother obviously luke-jr
04:52 <GodTodd> that's what homeschooling gets ya
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05:09  * Lucifer_arma sneezes
05:11 <Stewie-arma> are you allergic to me?
05:15 <Lucifer_arma> yes
05:15 <Stewie-arma> darn another person...
05:15 <Stewie-arma> that's 3 today
05:16 <Lucifer_arma> well, that was an easier problem that I expected, for some reason
05:16 <Stewie-arma> even I'm allergic to myself
05:16 <Lucifer_arma> means I'm done with statics for today :)
05:16 <Stewie-arma> I still have to do my math for the weekend
05:16 <Lucifer_arma> Stewie-arma: look on the bright side.  If you have 7 consecutive sneezes, you'll have an orgasm
05:16 <Stewie-arma> good thing it's only a page and a half
05:16 <Stewie-arma> orly?
05:16 <Lucifer_arma> heh, my statics problems are reaching a page and a half in length
05:17 <Lucifer_arma> actually, only one page so far, but I just know they'll get longer later
05:17 <Stewie-arma> I had one problem that took almost two pages
05:17 <Stewie-arma> it had about 8 different stages to get the final answer (with 8-14 steps in each stage)
05:17 <Lucifer_arma> well, these problems can vary in how much room they take by how you draw, but I tend to draw large drawings because they're clearer
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> what class is it?
05:18 <Stewie-arma> well I'm supposed to be taking geometry...
05:18 <Stewie-arma> but I skipped it
05:18 <Stewie-arma> so I'm taking pre-calc (or so it's supposed to be)
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05:19 <Stewie-arma> but it's to easy for pre-calc
05:19 <Lucifer_arma> I don't remember pre-cal problems being very long
05:19 <Lucifer_arma> well, precal isn't hard, it's just an intensive algebra-based study of functions
05:19 <Lucifer_arma> my high school precal class also did hyperbolas, ellipses, and some of the others, because those come back to haunt you in vector calculus
05:20 <Stewie-arma> I started to do some vectors but just basic stuff
05:21 <Lucifer_arma> vectors are one of those things that seems hard when you first work with them, but after you get comfortable with them, they're almost easier than integers
05:21 <Khalsa> who here does vector calculations?
05:21 <Stewie-arma> it doesn't take that long to get used to the basic stuff either, I didn't even recognize it as a vector at first ^.^
05:22 <Khalsa> http://xkcd.com/199/ <-- dont forget the tool tip ^_^
05:22 <Lucifer_arma> well, we've dispensed with the angle bracket notation entirely in my statics class and are using i,j,k vectors now
05:23 <Stewie-arma> sounds fun
05:24 <Stewie-arma> luckily I had my other friend (only the two of us skipped geometry) to show me how vectors worked and how to solve for certain things
05:24 <Stewie-arma> even though I disproved one of his ways...
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> have you done any trig?
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> that's the only thing you might really lose from geometry, other than the proofs (which were fun :)  )
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> in my high school math progression, we covered trig pretty well in algebra 2
05:26 <Stewie-arma> yeah I did trig
05:26 <Stewie-arma> last year
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> but we didn't have a separate trig class, the trig material was divided into algebra 2, geometry, and precal
05:26 <Stewie-arma> it helps in a lot of the stuff
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> well, you need it for vectors :)
05:26 <Stewie-arma> exactly
05:26 <Stewie-arma> lol I skipped algebra 1 altogether
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> also, precal is basically the study of the main function types, so there's a whole unit on trig functions
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> then there's logarithms, exponentials, polynomials, seems like I'm forgetting one
05:27 <Stewie-arma> matricies?
05:27 <Stewie-arma> lol
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, radicals, at least one other
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> you need matrices for a vector operation, actually
05:28 <Stewie-arma> did you think I was joking?
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05:28 <Lucifer_arma> about what?
05:28 <Stewie-arma> well I said matricies, and you said that I need matricies, actually, so it seemed like you thought I was joking
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> ummm, no, telling you what you need it for :)
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> there's other stuff matrices are useful for, like solving really fucked up polynomial equations
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> but you must have them to do the cross product
05:30 <Stewie-arma> the only thing that screws me over is non-euclidean geometry
05:30 <Stewie-arma> LOL
05:31 <Stewie-arma> I'm laughing at Code's poll for trying to get into sp
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> doesn't he have his own klan?
05:31 <Stewie-arma> yeah... he abandoned it
05:32 <Stewie-arma> he's made like 4 or 5 of them
05:32 <Stewie-arma> abandoned them all
05:32 <Lucifer_arma> man, he's starting to remind me, more than anything else, of that 12yo kid that sat in the back of the room and said "look at me!  I'm a person!  I want friends!"
05:32 <Stewie-arma> lol
05:33 <Stewie-arma> people that just say I want friends really bug me... GO FUCKING GET SOME THEN DAMN!
05:33 <Stewie-arma> ofcourse then I feel bad for them and help them on it
05:34 <Stewie-arma> unless ofcourse they pissed me off in another way
05:34 <Stewie-arma> then I make sure they make none lol
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> you're a real role model
05:35 <Stewie-arma> I know
05:35 <Stewie-arma> ^.^
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> "Asterisks are used to denote the more challenging exercises"
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> I guess that means I should only do the ones with stars next to them
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> because the ones without stars are boring me to tears
05:36  * Lucifer_arma is doing chemistry now
05:37 <Stewie-arma> lol I'm taking chem too
05:37 <Stewie-arma> but haven't done much yet
05:37 <Stewie-arma> just learned the vocab
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> chemistry's annoying
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> I wouldn't take it if I didn't have to
05:38 <Stewie-arma> and done some paper chromatography...
05:38 <Stewie-arma> what do you have to take it for?
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, that was our lab yesterday
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> it's a prereq for mechanics of solids
05:38 <Stewie-arma> awww
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> which is in turn a prereq for an AE-specific materials class
05:38 <Stewie-arma> which is a prereq for another thing ofcourse
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> nah, I think it ends there
05:39 <Stewie-arma> awww
05:39 <Stewie-arma> that's no fun
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> the chem branch isn't long
05:39 <Stewie-arma> except for biochem
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> well, that's the straight chem branch I have, those classes are prereqs for other classes, I think
05:39 <Stewie-arma> well that is still not that long, just has a bunch of different branches
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> structural dynamics comes to mind
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> here, I'll give you a flowchart
05:39 <Stewie-arma> lol
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.ae.utexas.edu/aerospaceUndergrad/CurriculumPrerqFlowChart.pdf
05:41 <Stewie-arma> looks like fun
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.ae.utexas.edu/aerospaceUndergrad/SuggestedArrangementofCourses.pdf  <--- to decipher the course numbers
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> I think CH 301 is the chemistry class I'm in (I'm at a community college, and those are for my current target 4 year university)
05:42 <Stewie-arma> http://farm1.static.flickr.com/119/294168009_b25decaddf.jpg
05:42 <Stewie-arma> another flowchart for you
05:43 <Stewie-arma> so you're just taking the principles of chem?
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, that's all I need :)
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> well, they say "principles of chem", but it is a college level chemistry class that requires high school chemistry
05:44 <Stewie-arma> what career are you looking for?
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> look at the top of that flowchart :)
05:45 <Stewie-arma> awww
05:45 <Stewie-arma> how did I miss that?
05:46 <Stewie-arma> you better get yo self a c or higher!
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> heh, it's not that simple
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> that's required for the degree, but I have to get into the college first
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> and if C's are all I have to offer, I ain't getting in
05:49 <Stewie-arma> good thing I'm getting all A's except Mandarin, and that's only cause the teacher hates me
05:50 <Stewie-arma> I made one joke in the middle of class and she lowered my grade by 10 points
05:53 <Stewie-arma> so now I have an 88 -.-
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> show her your young cock and she'll raise your grade back up
05:54 <Stewie-arma> Lucifer_arma, you forget that I'm Catholic again?
05:55 <Lucifer_arma> wait, you're not the lds punk?
05:55  * Lucifer_arma doesn't keep track of people's clan affiliations
05:56 <Stewie-arma> lol
05:56  * Stewie-arma tries to but can't
05:57 <Stewie-arma> lds?
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> latter-day saints
05:59 <Stewie-arma> awww
05:59 <Stewie-arma> blech mormons lol
06:00 <Stewie-arma> who was the mormon punk?
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> there isn't much difference between one religious punk and another
06:01 <Stewie-arma> it's true
06:01 <Stewie-arma> they all think theirs is the right one
06:01 <Stewie-arma> and don't listen to the other peoples
06:02 <Stewie-arma> would you count atheism a religion?
06:02 <Stewie-arma> I would say it is a belief but not a religion
06:03 <Stewie-arma> yay for answering my own questions right after I ask them -.-
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> would you say an empty pail contains water?
06:04 <Stewie-arma> well everything contains water, it just might not be visible (water vapor) (humidity)
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> would you say an empty pail in orbit contains water?
06:04 <Stewie-arma> orbit around what?
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> ("in orbit" by itself always means "in orbit around the planet we're mutually occupying")
06:05 <Stewie-arma> since when?
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> since before you were born
06:05 <Stewie-arma> lol
06:05 <Stewie-arma> but then I would say no
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> atheism is not a belief any more than 0 is a magnitude
06:07 <Stewie-arma> why wouldn't it be a belief?
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> question doesn't make sense
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> ask instead "what do atheists believe?"
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> and strike out any answer that begins with "Atheists don't believe in ..."
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06:09 <Stewie-arma> Atheists believe in the absence of a god or high power than a living thing... (worded weird I know)
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> it's not just worded weird, it's patently false
06:09 <Stewie-arma> hey /dev/null
06:09 <Stewie-arma> lol
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> atheists typically don't "believe in the absense of a god"
06:09 <Stewie-arma> ofcourse it is
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06:10 <Stewie-arma> why not?
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> more like "atheism is the absence of religion, and only has meaning in a world that has religion"
06:10 <Stewie-arma> hmmm
06:10 <Stewie-arma> then what makes an atheist?
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> atheists don't actively disbelieve in god on the whole, although some individuals certainly do
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> think of atheism as a convenient answer to the following series of questions:
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> "Are you a catholic?"  "no"
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> "Are you pentecostal?"  "no"
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> "Do you go to church?"  "no"
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> "Then what are you?"
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> here you can say "I don't have a religion", in which case you'll be called a Nothing Person
06:11 <Stewie-arma> naw you see there, you are not including every other religion
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> or you can say "I'm an Atheist", in which case you've made something out of nothing
06:12 <Stewie-arma> *coughs* making something out of nothing is impossible(except for god)*ends cough*
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> well, I just did it
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> I guess your faith is more believable than what you can actually see
06:12 <Stewie-arma> no you see you made a word of an idea
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> have you ever asked someone if they were "nothing" when they told you they didn't have a religion?
06:13 <Stewie-arma> no because "nothing" isn't a belief
06:13 <Stewie-arma> it is the absence of everything
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> ok, what's the difference between an atheist and a buddhist?
06:14 <GodTodd> statues with big fat bellies?
06:14 <GodTodd> :)
06:14 <Stewie-arma> buddhist believe and follow the teachings of buddha, atheists do not
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> what are the teachings of buddha?
06:14 <Stewie-arma> I don't know I'm not buddhist
06:15 <Lucifer_arma> that's a shame, because the only practical difference between the two is that atheists eat meat :)
06:15 <Stewie-arma> no I haven't
06:15 <Stewie-arma> lol
06:15 <Lucifer_arma> buddha's teachings are atheistic (when placed in a modern context), and the only real difference then is that buddhism is a highly advanced philosophy, whereas most atheists are still groping in that general direction
06:15 <GodTodd> i ate a meatball soup with buddhist monks :P
06:16 <Lucifer_arma> buddhism is like linux, it's been localized everywhere
06:16 <Lucifer_arma> kinda neat that way
06:16 <GodTodd> yep
06:16 <Stewie-arma> Lucifer_arma a lot of the atheists I meet don't exactly have a logical reason not to believe, all they say is "because I don't"
06:16 <Lucifer_arma> you don't understand
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> you don't need a logical reason *not* to believe
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> lack of belief is what you have when there's a lack of proof
06:17 <Stewie-arma> they why do you need a logical reason to believe?
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> since there's a lack of proof, then the natural state is to have a lack of belief
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> because you need to have reason to move from the natural state to the unnatural state
06:17 <GodTodd> well....thing is...a lot of people follow the logical approach of disbelieve until the believers prove you're wrong...
06:17 <Stewie-arma> then why do many courts base their rulings on intuitions?
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> babies are born without religion, think about that
06:18 <GodTodd> not intuitions....opinions
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> I wouldn't use law as a measurement of logic, really
06:18 <GodTodd> based on logic and common sense
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> never, in fact
06:18 <Stewie-arma> babies are born with out the knowledge of religion, but most times they are born with a religion forced upon them
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> considering how many people are wrongly convicted :)
06:18 <GodTodd> theoretically :)
06:18 <GodTodd> no...the knowledge is forced on them
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06:18 <GodTodd> you cannot force religion
06:18 <GodTodd> which xtians need to realize one day
06:19 <Stewie-arma> lol
06:19 <Stewie-arma> you obviously don't know the meaning of the new testament then (atleast the end)
06:19 <Lucifer_arma> babies are born wtihout religion, and over time will either develop some weird beliefs on their own, will adopt whatever silly things you tell them, or will learn how the world really works to whatever etent they're capable of
06:19 <Lucifer_arma> you mean the part that was only included for political reasons?
06:20 <Stewie-arma> no
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> for which there is extensive documentation to support....
06:20 <Stewie-arma> woops
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> (the political thing)
06:20 <Stewie-arma> I meant the end of the gospels
06:20 <GodTodd> why not talk about all the stuff taken *out* of the bible
06:20 <GodTodd> because it was too "pagan"
06:20 <GodTodd> :)
06:20 <Stewie-arma> GodTodd because that wasn't decided by me
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> and all of the manuscripts that were intentionally locked up in the vatican so nobody would ever think there was anything else
06:21 <Stewie-arma> we're getting off the "christians need to learn to not force religion on people" topic
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> that's also ignoring corruptions introduced in the KJV, the most standardized english translation of the bible, for the purpose of reinforcing divine right of kings
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> we were never on that topic, we were on the topic of why proof is required to adopt religion, not the other way around
06:22 <Stewie-arma> Lucifer you missed the part after hayes left then
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> when you ask "Why don't you believe in God?", you're asking the question backwards
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06:22 <Stewie-arma> why doesn't god believe in you?
06:22 <Stewie-arma> lol
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> I don't believe in god because I was born without such a belief, and I've never seen or experienced anything to make me think there's some all-powerful God controlling my destiny
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> it's all a bunch of tricks and nonsense
06:23 <Durka> Lucifer_arma: You told me to just leave you a message so here: When can we talk? #m me back (or since you're right there just say something), I'll be waiting
06:23 <Durka> :D
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: ping
06:23 <Durka> Lucifer_arma: pong
06:23 <Stewie-arma> Lucifer_arma, I had one of those moments exactly a year and a month ago
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> Hye Durka, what color are the clouds over your head?
06:23 <Durka> uh, pink?
06:24 <Stewie-arma> which converted me to Catholicism.
06:24 <Durka> :S
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> Stewie-arma: the hairs growing down there are perfectly natural and normal, there's no god making that happen
06:24 <Stewie-arma> I use to be Agnostic
06:24 <Stewie-arma> lol
06:24 <Stewie-arma> Luci you are funny
06:24 <Stewie-arma> better put that one in the quotes book
06:25 <Stewie-arma> Lucifer since when does puberty start at age 14?
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> you are aware that people develop at different rates, right?
06:25 <Stewie-arma> that is true
06:26 <Stewie-arma> but most often it begins at what 12?
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> also, puberty starts before the hairs start growing down there
06:26 <Stewie-arma> and lowering each yeah
06:26 <Stewie-arma> year
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> it can't be both "most often starting at 12" and "lowering each year"
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> there's a lack of critical thinking in there somewhere
06:26 <Stewie-arma> stop making me think
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> because when I was a kid, the average starting age was 11
06:26 <Stewie-arma> damn it lucifer this is the week end
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> I know of no counting system where 11 -> 12 is a lowering value
06:26 <Stewie-arma> and by week end I mean weekend
06:27 <Stewie-arma> well I didn't know exactly
06:27 <Stewie-arma> I was estimating
06:27 <Stewie-arma> or guessing
06:27 <Stewie-arma> you choose
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> my wife did meet someone a couple of years ago who's first grade daughter had started puberty
06:27 <Stewie-arma> well now that's interesting
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> it's not that it's lowering, so much as being forced early by all the HGH in the food supply
06:28 <Durka> o_O
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> basically, if you feed your kids all the crap food that you can, they'll start puberty early
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> but if you feed them well, no problems :)
06:28 <Stewie-arma> and they will also get fat
06:28 <Stewie-arma> ;P
06:28 <Stewie-arma> Durka come join our discussion
06:28 <Durka> not atm
06:29 <Stewie-arma> but you hit puberty at a late age we need you in this discussion
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> I need to develop a more positive attitude about my chem class
06:30 <Stewie-arma> Lucifer the only way to do that is by taking a positive initiative in that class...
06:30 <Stewie-arma> or so I have noticed
06:30 <Durka> Stewie-arma: ???
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> what language is that in?
06:31 <Stewie-arma> nothing Durka....
06:31 <Durka> :P
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> "taking a positive initiative"...
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> could you say that without the feel of corporate speak?
06:31 <Durka> taking positive initiative a *
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> positive taking a initiative *
06:32 <Durka> xD
06:32 <Stewie-arma> Lucifer could you not be so stupid?
06:32 <Stewie-arma> and by stupid I mean
06:32 <Stewie-arma> such a smart ass
06:32 <Stewie-arma> yes I said your ass was smart har har
06:32  * Lucifer_arma considers how to answer that
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> oh nvm.  If you're going to insist on saying things that don't make sense, I can always just /ignore you
06:33 <Stewie-arma> yeah that's right run away
06:33 <Stewie-arma> lol
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> eh?  you're the one running away.  I asked for clarification and you got all defensive
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> still haven't provided the clarification
06:33 <Stewie-arma> what when?
06:33 <Stewie-arma> for what?
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> probably because you can't.  You're just spewing nonsense you've been told and don't understand
06:34 <Stewie-arma> now you're confusing me
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> then pay attention
06:34 <Stewie-arma> I can't
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> I asked you to clarify "taking a positive initiative"
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> you gave me abuse
06:34 <Stewie-arma> oh I'm sorry I took the "corporate speak" as an insult
06:34 <Stewie-arma> don't know why
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> well, if you use corporate speak, you shouldn't be surprised when someone says you have used it :)
06:35 <Stewie-arma> well I wasn't trying to use it
06:35 <Stewie-arma> that's the only way I could explain it
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> near as I can tell, the phrase is meaningless
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> but it sure sounds good
06:35 <Stewie-arma> do you not understand what initiative means?
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> #dict initiative
06:36 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: wn, bouvier, gcide, and moby-thes responded: gcide: Initiative \In*i"ti*a*tive\, a. [Cf. F. initiatif.] Serving to initiate; inceptive; initiatory; introductory; preliminary. [1913 Webster]; bouvier: INITIATIVE, French law. The name given to the important prerogative given by the charte constitutionelle, art. 16, to the late king to propose through his ministers projects of (10 more messages)
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> that's a sucky entry
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> there we go
06:36 <Stewie-arma> yeah it is
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> wait, let's see if there's something more useful
06:36 <Stewie-arma> there are 10 more messages
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> #more
06:36 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: laws. 1 Toull. n. 39. See Veto; wn: initiative adj : serving to set in motion; "the magazine's inaugural issue"; "the initiative phase in the negotiations"; "an initiatory step toward a treaty"; "his first (or maiden) speech in Congress"; "the liner's maiden voyage" [syn: {inaugural}, {initiatory}, {first}, {maiden}] n 1: readiness to embark on bold new ventures [syn: {enterprise}, (9 more messages)
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> ahhh, much better
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> #more
06:36 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: {enterprisingness}, {go-ahead}] 2: the first of a series of actions; "he memorized all the important chess openings" [syn: {first step}, {opening move}, {opening}]; gcide: Initiative \In*i"ti*a*tive\, n. [Cf. F. initiative.] 1. An introductory step or movement; an act which originates or begins. [1913 Webster] The undeveloped initiatives of good things to come. --I. Taylor. [1913 (8 more messages)
06:37 <Stewie-arma> there we go
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> now, how does "positive" modify initiative?
06:37 <Stewie-arma> taking a positive introductory step?
06:37 <Stewie-arma> take things step by step maybe?
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> I can go with that, but two weeks into the class I've already taken several steps that have all been positive
06:38 <Stewie-arma> well I didn't get that from what you said
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> except for the one where I didn't notice where the recommended practice problems were, but now I'm caught up with where I should be for yesterday
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> well of course not, I don't like chemistry :)
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> but I never approach a class with "I'm going to hate this class"
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> in fact, I downright dislike chemistry
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> hate is too strong a word
06:39 <Stewie-arma> "I need to develop a more positive attitude about my chem class" makes it seem like you haven't tried tho
06:39 <Stewie-arma> and by tho I mean yet
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> now I'm getting hopelessly pedantic, but "more positive attitude" is a relative statement
06:40 <Stewie-arma> well you said it not me
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> my attitude right now, in case you're wondering, is "this is a very easy class, I've taken enough math and physics to render this class largely boring and rote stuff, so I should get an easy A, all I have to do is show up and study"
06:40 <Stewie-arma> awww
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> now, if I were interested in chemistry, that'd be a really bad attitude
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> if I let it take over and just blew off the class entirely, that'd be really bad too
06:41 <Stewie-arma> so just get it over with
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know, maybe I still have a bad attitude, I'm just actually trying to get a good grade anyway
06:41 <Stewie-arma> it's only a 3 month course is it not?
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> I have to get an A.  I dropped the class the first time I took it because I was only getting a C, and I didn't really like the teacher
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> then I found out that when UT looks over my transcript, they average in withdrawals as F's
06:42 <Stewie-arma> oh snap
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> so I have to get an A now to balance it out to what I would have gotten if I had stayed in it before
06:42 <Khalsa> man i'ts so much work to make arma cfg's
06:42 <Khalsa> good*
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> so you see, my attitude about this class is much more complex than it appears on the surface :)
06:43 <Stewie-arma> well maybe if you had said that in the first place...
06:43 <Stewie-arma> you wouldn't have been attacked
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I'll put up all my baggage up front for you so you can check it :)
06:43 <Stewie-arma> Khalsa: most things that are good are hard to make
06:43 <Stewie-arma> alright
06:43 <Stewie-arma> I'll check it over lucifer
06:43 <Stewie-arma> wait what's that tiking
06:43 <Durka> #kill Stewie-arma
06:43 <armabot> Stewie-arma will die on 08:03 PM, July 06, 2007 GMT due to being stabbed in the eye by Durka
06:44 <Durka> >:)
06:44 <Stewie-arma> #rape Durka
06:44 <Stewie-arma> tlol
06:44 <Stewie-arma> btw it looks like that has already happened
06:44 <Stewie-arma> to bad I'm still here
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> #jesus luke-jr
06:45 <armabot> Jesus thinks luke-jr is a jerk.
06:45 <Stewie-arma> that's terrible
06:46 <Stewie-arma> <Lucifer_arma> Stewie-arma: the hairs growing down there are perfectly natural and normal, there's no god making that happen
06:46 <Stewie-arma> you lie!
06:46 <Durka> Stewie-arma: type #rape Durka
06:46 <Durka> again
06:46 <Stewie-arma> why?
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> #rape Durka
06:46 <armabot> Lucifer_arma is a child molestor
06:46 <Durka> XD
06:46 <Stewie-arma> tlol
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> #quote get 21
06:46 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #21: "<Luke-Jr_work__> btw, pedophile is good" (added by spidey at 06:34 AM, September 09, 2006)
06:46 <Durka> o_O
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> hey, I just realized something
06:46 <Stewie-arma> oh snap!
06:47 <Durka> what
06:47  * Durka waits for the huge response
06:47 <Stewie-arma> don't worry durka, lucifer is just messing with you
06:47 <Stewie-arma> it's nothing to do with us
06:47 <Durka> :(
06:48 <Stewie-arma> he'll fuck with you a lot while you're in here
06:48 <Durka> yea, i'm in here too much
06:48 <Stewie-arma> along with GodTodd
06:48 <Durka> xD
06:48 <Khalsa> Durka: yeah yeah I know I know
06:48 <Durka> Khalsa: o_O
06:49 <Khalsa> but there is a point where lazyness just takes over
06:49 <Stewie-arma> then luke will push religion on you
06:49 <Khalsa> and for me, that point is early >_>
06:49 <Stewie-arma> ??
06:49 <Durka> Stewie-arma (1336)
06:49 <Stewie-arma> Khalsa: wtf you talkin bout?
06:49 <Durka> only 1336 lines in here Stewie-arma :(
06:49 <Stewie-arma> yeah I know
06:49 <Durka> Lucifer_arma	83482
06:49 <Durka> wow
06:49 <Durka> 16	Durka	8680
06:49  * Durka has more than z-man :)
06:49 <Khalsa> uhhh s/Durka/Stewie-arma/
06:50 <Durka> It seems that Dorka's shift-key is hanging: 11.7% of the time he/she wrote UPPERCASE.
06:50 <Durka> For example, like this:
06:50 <Durka>      <Dorka> AND I'M 94% DONE
06:50 <Durka> LuciEatsPeople just forgot to deactivate his/her Caps-Lock. He/She wrote UPPERCASE 9.0% of the time.
06:50 <Khalsa> sorry
06:50 <Durka> ROFL
06:50 <Stewie-arma> I haven't been on here many times with in the past 3-4 weeks
06:50 <Stewie-arma> WTF HOW YOU GET THAT?
06:51 <Stewie-arma> IT'S OVER 9000!!!!
06:51 <Stewie-arma> ATLEAST LUCIFER'S IS
06:52 <Lucifer_arma> in the land of the rising sun girlish youth and innocence are considered the pinnacle of sexual attraction. Western society prizes girls who appear less of a child and more of a woman - mature both in body and behaviour - but in Japan the qualities are reversed like a crazy mirror of opposites.
06:52 <Durka> MOAR?!?!
06:52 <Lucifer_arma> http://imperialdoughnut.blogspot.com/2002/07/sailor-schoolgirls-ive-always-found.html
06:53 <Lucifer_arma> that explains luke's love of japanese culture and reconciles it with this:
06:53 <Lucifer_arma> #quote get 21
06:53 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #21: "<Luke-Jr_work__> btw, pedophile is good" (added by spidey at 06:34 AM, September 09, 2006)
06:53 <Lucifer_arma> I can only imagine what his wife is like
06:54 <Stewie-arma> Furthermore childish outbursts, pouting, and tantrums are viewed as charmingly erotic
06:56 <Stewie-arma> LOL
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> http://imperialdoughnut.blogspot.com/2002_07_01_archive.html  <--- the whole post is spread out over several posts on this page
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> you have to scroll down for all of it
07:13 <Stewie-arma> Daddy Mack says:
07:13 <Stewie-arma> yeah but I'm sure dancing is in the Bible somewhere
07:13 <Stewie-arma> Mack Daddy says:
07:13 <Stewie-arma> thou shall not boogie?
07:13 <Stewie-arma> Daddy Mack says:
07:13 <Stewie-arma> something like that
07:13 <Stewie-arma> HE GOT IT WRONG
07:14 <Stewie-arma> IT'S "thou shalt not boogie"
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> look, if God didn't want people to boogie, he wouldn't have made black people
07:17 <Stewie-arma> didn't you know that he punished them by forcing them to sin?
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> no, he punished them by making white people
07:17 <Stewie-arma> well which came first?
07:17 <Khalsa> man, what is this .REZ file business
07:18 <Lucifer_arma> ?
07:18 <Lucifer_arma> maybe you need to de-.REZ yourself
07:18 <Khalsa> i do
07:18  * Lucifer_arma wonders if the TRON joke made it across in this channel
07:19 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@ip-62-235-211-114.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #armagetron
07:19 <Khalsa> it did
07:19 <MrBougo> hiho
07:19 <MrBougo> aw, i had this feeling yesterday
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> man, I'm up to two consecutive sneezes
07:19 <MrBougo> i had a music stuck in my head
07:19 <MrBougo> haha Lucifer_arma
07:19 <Stewie-arma> lucifer only 5 more
07:20 <MrBougo> ive NEVER had such a thing
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> MrBougo: finally found metal?
07:20 <MrBougo> but once my mother had 3
07:20 <MrBougo> huh? metal?
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, metal
07:20 <MrBougo> the music?
07:20 <MrBougo> i hate metal :(
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> you know, "Heavy metal is poisoning, it's a toxic wasteland of sex and drugs, sex and drugs"
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> or something like that
07:20 <MrBougo> so i had this music stuck in my head but no freaking way to remember where it came from
07:21  * Lucifer_arma hopes nobody notices how badly he screwed up the song
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> then you fired up arma and said "Oh, it's *that* song"
07:21 <MrBougo> nah
07:21 <MrBougo> lawl, i use
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> is this story going somewhere interesting?  ;)
07:21 <MrBougo> no
07:21 <MrBougo> and i was worried about how i could find out
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> by playing through the song metnally until you identify it, usually
07:22 <MrBougo> i could stay all my life with that thing in my head, and no way to remember...
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> some of us have that problem regularly :)
07:22 <MrBougo> Lucifer_arma: that works with songs with lyrics
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> it works with songs without lyrics too, provided you don't listen to music that all sounds the same
07:22 <MrBougo> and this one had no lyrics :p
07:23 <MrBougo> nah i don't
07:23 <MrBougo> but i have a bad IDing mind
07:23 <MrBougo> IDing is identofying the track playing :p
07:23 <MrBougo> you know, there are so much weirdo electro tracks, you can't remlember them all
07:23 <MrBougo> anyway... i found out what the track is
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> I could if I wanted to...
07:24 <MrBougo> and now i'm happeh
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> but I can't even imagine wanting to listen to electro tracks, let alone trying to remember having ever done so
07:24 <MrBougo> hehe :p
07:26 <MrBougo> who would force you, anyway
07:27 <MrBougo> can i ask you why you've never tried out a bit of electro?
07:27 <MrBougo> i guess it's about some acoustic sounds missing, heh
07:40 <MrBougo> zomg that Deadmau5 guy rocks!
07:40 <MrBougo> err Lucifer_arma are you still here?
07:41 <Lucifer_arma> MrBougo: sorta
07:41 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know how you figure I never "tried out a bit of electro"
07:41 <Lucifer_arma> I ws there when it was invented :)
07:41 <Lucifer_arma> not in the same room or anything...
07:42 <MrBougo> i mean... you've heard some, but not listened to :p
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> Oooooooooooooh yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh
07:42 <MrBougo> ?
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> never heard of yello?
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> that's like loving rock and roll but not knowing who the beatles were
07:42 <luke-jr> spidey's domain is expiring today; anyone wanna buy it?
07:42 <Durka> NO
07:42 <MrBougo> hehe
07:43 <MrBougo> Lucifer_arma: there are prolly many guys not knowing who te beatles were
07:44 <MrBougo> the*
07:44 <MrBougo> i think it makes you sad
07:44 <MrBougo> am i wrong
07:44 <Lucifer_arma> yes
07:44 <MrBougo> oh :p
07:44 <MrBougo> i didnt know about yello
07:45 <Lucifer_arma> TMBG?
07:45 <MrBougo> either
07:45 <Lucifer_arma> They Might Be Giants?
07:45 <Lucifer_arma> you don't know anything about them?
07:45 <Lucifer_arma> Man
07:46 <MrBougo> (sorry)
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> you don't have a birdhouse in your soul
07:46 <MrBougo> ew
07:47 <MrBougo> err thats not my kind of music
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> not to put too fine a point on it
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> say I'm the only bee in your bonnet
08:00 <GodTodd> well...the java program runs with all successes...guess i can call it done :)
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> make a little birdhouse in your soul
08:05 <MrBougo> heh, browsing beatport is like browsing wikipedia
08:05 <MrBougo> clickee, clickee, and you discover many stuff
08:07 <Durka> MrBougo: :D
08:07 <Stewie-arma> Durka: D:
08:07 <MrBougo> :D
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> Lucifer_arma: :D
08:08 <Stewie-arma> how would you respond to that?
08:08 <Stewie-arma> Stewie-arma: ping
08:08 <Stewie-arma> Stewie-arma: pong
08:08 <Stewie-arma> Stewie-arma: piong
08:08 <Stewie-arma> Stewie-arma: poing
08:09 <MrBougo> MrBougo: hello
08:10 <Stewie-arma> g2g, watching Flight of the Conchords!
08:11 <MrBougo> hehe
08:11 <MrBougo> "Space Invaders Are Smoking Grass"
08:12 <Durka> #ping
08:12 <armabot> pong
08:12 <Durka> #pong
08:12 <Durka> =/
08:12 <Durka> #alias add pong echo "ping"
08:13 <armabot> Durka: The operation succeeded.
08:13 <Durka> #ping
08:13 <armabot> pong
08:13 <Durka> #pong
08:13 <armabot> ping
08:13 <Durka> #ping
08:13 <armabot> pong
08:13 <Durka> :P
08:13 <MrBougo> #durka
08:13 <armabot> gtfo
08:13 <Durka> :O
08:14 <MrBougo> :o
08:21  * MrBougo is now playing: Deadmau5 - Not Exactly
08:22 <MrBougo> :o
08:25 <MrBougo> omg
08:25 <MrBougo> lemon smash!
08:25 <MrBougo> http://www.addictinggames.com/lemonsmash.html
08:31 <Durka> #MrBougo
08:31 <armabot> MrBougo is French :\/
08:31 <Durka> :P
08:32 <MrBougo> im belgian :/
08:32 <MrBougo> and now youve made me join #mrbougo
08:32 <Stewie-arma> samething
08:35 <Durka> :S
08:53 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: ping
08:55 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: pong
08:55 <Lucifer_arma> hey, did you get a chance to read that story?
08:55 <Lucifer_arma> no hurry or anything, I'm just curious :)
08:56 <GodTodd> i've glanced at it...haven't had a chance to comment on it yet ;)
09:01 <Lucifer_arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=191836#191836
09:01 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: that's for you, too :)
09:03 <Durka> PLEASE
09:03 <Durka> delete the link
09:03 <Stewie-arma> ?
09:03 <Stewie-arma> which one?
09:04 <Lucifer_arma> first refresh, or you won't see it
09:04 <Stewie-arma> oh the durkas.info one
09:06 <Stewie-arma> it looks good
09:10 <Durka> -.-
09:10 <Durka> dont share link, seriously
09:10 <Stewie-arma> why?
09:10 <Stewie-arma> what's wrong with it?
09:10 <Durka> it's not done yet
09:10 <Durka> well
09:10 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, it was my mistake, durka's apparently still building it :)
09:10 <Durka> i could finish it right now i guess
09:10 <Durka> just iframe that wiki page ;)
09:11 <Stewie-arma> all that needs to be done is the master roster
09:11 <Stewie-arma> btw where do you find the season MVP from last season?
09:12 <Stewie-arma> nvm found it
09:12 <Durka> hm, i've never even found that, who was it...fofo?
09:12 <Stewie-arma> tie between fofo and luzifer
09:13 <Stewie-arma> and the rest didn't go through
09:13 <Stewie-arma> that was only round 1 voting
09:13 <Stewie-arma> but round 2 never happened
09:14 <Lucifer_arma> nah, I fell down on the job of pushing it through
09:14 <Lucifer_arma> actually, the semester creeped up on me, and personal shit took me away
09:14 <Stewie-arma> good thing durkas on this one
09:14 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
09:15 <Stewie-arma> if you need anyhelp you could ask me... but it looks like durka's got it goin
09:15 <Lucifer_arma> but I'll tell you right now, if Durka winds up backing out (he won't), we're fucked
09:15 <Lucifer_arma> I won't be able to take over for him if he backs out :/
09:15 <Durka> why would i back out....
09:15  * Lucifer_arma doesn't want to belabor the point, but all of his help backed out over the summer ;P
09:15 <Stewie-arma> you just would damn it
09:15 <Lucifer_arma> I said you wouldn't :)
09:16 <Durka> :D
09:16 <Lucifer_arma> just, you know, maybe a safe will fall on you or something
09:16 <Lucifer_arma> and then we're fucked
09:16 <Durka> yea, THEN we're fucked
09:16 <Stewie-arma> well he would be more fucked then us
09:16 <Durka> unless it has TONS OF $$$$$
09:16 <Durka> $_$
09:16 <Stewie-arma> durka sorry but you would have been dead
09:16 <Durka> btw, if u 2 could subscribe to the mailing list that would be great
09:16 <Stewie-arma> so uhm, yeah durka's dead let's keep the tourney going
09:17 <Durka> -.-
09:17 <Stewie-arma> subscribed
09:17 <Stewie-arma> bleh
09:17 <Stewie-arma> :-P
09:18 <Lucifer_arma> heh, don't you know my email address?  ;)
09:18 <Durka> meh
09:18 <Stewie-arma> maybe
09:19 <GodTodd> isn't it Lucifer_arma@iamgay.net?
09:19 <GodTodd> :)
09:20 <Lucifer_arma> no, it's godtodd@likescock.com
09:20 <Lucifer_arma> man, I think we (I) get a little more vulgar every day
09:21 <GodTodd> dammit...that was my *secret* address :P
09:21 <Durka> ok, now i think the site is done
09:21 <Durka> go tell me if there's anything i missed
09:21 <GodTodd> or is that secrete address...
09:21 <GodTodd> hmmm
09:21 <Durka> i cleared the side tables on the index and the schedule and view results pages, should be complete
09:22 <GodTodd> Durka: yeah you missed the 72 point type proclaiming "Luke-jr is a moronic faggot!" :D
09:22 <Stewie-arma> master roster still not working...
09:22 <Durka> no, it's in their alright
09:22 <Durka> hit refresh stewie
09:22 <Stewie-arma> I did
09:22 <Durka> i replaced it with a link called
09:22 <Durka> Signup!
09:22 <Durka> next to rules
09:22 <Durka> links to the wiki page
09:23 <Durka> do you think people will see the mailing list thingy?
09:23 <Stewie-arma> I guess now it does
09:23 <Durka> where should i put it? :S
09:23  * Durka got ur emails :P
09:23 <Stewie-arma> durka you already had mine
09:24 <Stewie-arma> from the DDL tourney
09:24 <Durka> meh
09:24 <Stewie-arma> I gave you the san.rr.com one right?
09:24 <Durka> Lucifer_arma: where should i put the mailing list thingy?
09:25 <Lucifer_arma> it's fine where it is, but you might put it off to the side where it's pretty much always visible
09:25 <Durka> Stewie-arma: prbarna@san.rr.com
09:25 <Durka> :D
09:25 <Lucifer_arma> that's the sort of thing you want on every page
09:25 <Stewie-arma> alright
09:25 <Durka> ooo, duh!
09:25 <Durka> i know
09:25 <Durka> move the
09:25 <Durka> About the AFL
09:25 <Stewie-arma> over
09:25 <Durka> that's on every page
09:25 <Durka> just put it on the index only
09:26 <Durka> replace that with the mailing list
09:26 <Stewie-arma> but still keep the mailing list on the index
09:26 <Durka> besides, u don't need to KEEP reading the about the afl
09:26 <Durka> it should only be on the index
09:26 <Durka> watch, brb
09:26 <Lucifer_arma> why not?  that's some damn good copy!
09:26 <Stewie-arma> I know what you are doing
09:26 <Durka> xD
09:26 <GodTodd> that copy is lame
09:27 <Stewie-arma> Durka: I've done something like this except for school
09:27 <Lucifer_arma> is not
09:27 <GodTodd> er...lm
09:27 <GodTodd> r smth
09:27 <Lucifer_arma> shut up, beavis
09:27 <GodTodd> no, butthead
09:27 <GodTodd> :P
09:27 <Stewie-arma> what are you butthead luci?
09:27 <Lucifer_arma> I'm gonna kick your ass
09:27 <Stewie-arma> darn Todd beat me to it
09:27 <GodTodd> that'd be cool hehehehe
09:27 <Lucifer_arma> heh, yeah, it would be cool
09:28 <Stewie-arma> eat through your butt
09:28 <Stewie-arma> South Park all over again
09:28  * GodTodd thinks its kinda sad that we remember those lines :/
09:28 <Lucifer_arma> he said "butt"
09:28 <Lucifer_arma> haha
09:28 <Stewie-arma> hahahaha
09:28 <Lucifer_arma> my dauhter still says "Is this a god dam?" whenever we pass a dam
09:28 <Stewie-arma> I don't get it
09:28 <GodTodd> i am the great cornholio
09:28 <Stewie-arma> lol
09:29 <Stewie-arma> that's cute
09:29 <GodTodd> i need tp for my bunghole
09:29 <Lucifer_arma> that's annoying, beavis
09:29 <Lucifer_arma> stop that
09:29 <GodTodd> are you threatening me?
09:29 <Stewie-arma> what if he is?
09:30 <Lucifer_arma> I'm gonna kick your ass if you don't stop that
09:30 <GodTodd> are you threatening me?
09:30 <Stewie-arma> Luci is he pming you shit?
09:30 <Lucifer_arma> uhhhhhhhhhhhh
09:30 <Lucifer_arma> no?
09:30 <Stewie-arma> wait didn't you silence him?
09:30 <GodTodd> no...shit is best delivered fresh and in the lap
09:31 <Durka> k, refresh the index Lucifer_arma
09:31 <Durka> well, any page for that matter
09:31 <Stewie-arma> awww
09:31 <GodTodd> who would silence me?
09:31 <GodTodd> i rule
09:31 <GodTodd> :)
09:31 <Stewie-arma> I will
09:31 <Stewie-arma> right about now...
09:31 <GodTodd> my loss, i'm sure :)
09:31 <Stewie-arma> yay godtodd silenced
09:31 <Stewie-arma> Durka: looks good
09:31 <Stewie-arma> yay for copy pasta
09:32 <Lucifer_arma> looks good to me
09:32 <Durka> w007!
09:32 <Lucifer_arma> you'll probably want to wrap the print version of the signup page in the iframe, though
09:32 <Stewie-arma> W??7
09:32  * GodTodd thinks Stewie-arma didn't get the references we were making cuz it was probably on before he was born...
09:32 <GodTodd> heh
09:32 <Lucifer_arma> no, I take it back, the printable version is useless
09:33 <Stewie-arma> Durka: you want to put the link in forums now?
09:33 <Lucifer_arma> no, he totally didn't get it
09:33 <Stewie-arma> Lucifer yes I did
09:33 <Lucifer_arma> he's like heard the names beavis and butthead before, but totally doesn't know the lingo
09:34 <Durka> Lucifer_arma: I didn't use an iframe, i'm just redirecting it
09:34 <Stewie-arma> Lucifer it is still on fox "FX"
09:34 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I saw that
09:34 <Lucifer_arma> he said "fox"
09:34 <Lucifer_arma> he wants me to fox him
09:34 <Lucifer_arma> heh
09:34 <Stewie-arma> lol
09:34  * GodTodd decides to go emo and cut himself because Stewie-arma "silenced" him
09:34 <GodTodd> :)
09:34 <MrBougo> fox you
09:34 <Lucifer_arma> beavis, go fox yourself
09:34 <Stewie-arma> Lucifer you sick bastard
09:35 <Lucifer_arma> I'm gonna fox him my ass
09:35 <GodTodd> goodbye cruel net.world *melodramatic hand flourish here*
09:36 <Lucifer_arma> up to 3 sneezes
09:37 <Lucifer_arma> Signing up for the Fall Season of the AFL is much easier than before;   <--- of course it's easier than before, it wasn't even possible before!
09:37 <spidey> haha
09:37 <Stewie-arma> hey spidey
09:38 <MrBougo> hiho spidey
09:38 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, afl server will be down for 2~ weeks
09:38 <MrBougo> hows your domain name spidey
09:38 <spidey> we're moving to a dual core opteron
09:38 <spidey> .net? dun need it
09:38 <spidey> we're at .org now :)
09:38 <Stewie-arma> hmmm wrtl's logs aren't going past 09:08 on 2007-09-15
09:38 <Stewie-arma> for all you americans that is 09-15-2007
09:38 <Stewie-arma> lol
09:38 <spidey> lol
09:39 <Stewie-arma> spidey I woulda thought you were .gov by now
09:39 <Durka> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=AFL_::_Fall_Season_Signup_Page
09:39 <Durka> link added
09:40 <Stewie-arma> Lucifer add it to your post as well
09:40 <Durka> spidey: Is your server availible for the AFL?
09:40 <spidey> |FA| AFL server
09:40 <spidey> or something
09:40 <spidey> anyways
09:40 <Stewie-arma> btw spidey, are the trem servers being restarted or something?
09:40 <spidey> it'll be down for 2 weeks at the end of the month
09:40 <spidey> due to moving servers
09:40 <spidey> Stewie-arma, our host is having problems
09:41 <Stewie-arma> aww
09:41 <spidey> everyone keeps timing out
09:41 <spidey> hence the move :p
09:41 <spidey> they should be up atm though
09:41 <Stewie-arma> love the tremx server ^.^
09:41 <spidey> me to
09:41 <spidey> loved layouts more but it's gone bye-bye :(
09:41 <Stewie-arma> aliens kick ass, lol AIDS IN HUMAN BASE!
09:41 <Stewie-arma> I saw it earlier today some how
09:42 <spidey> layouts
09:42 <spidey> ?
09:42 <Stewie-arma> yeah
09:42 <spidey> or tremx?
09:42 <Stewie-arma> I don't know
09:42 <Stewie-arma> layouts
09:42 <spidey> ...
09:42 <spidey> maybe it was wired
09:42 <Stewie-arma> it was weird
09:42 <spidey> he's using our config for his server
09:42 <Stewie-arma> aww
09:43 <Stewie-arma> why not change the now FA server having the layouts just the different layouts happen less often
09:43 <Stewie-arma> if I could use english
09:43 <spidey> ...
09:43 <spidey> because the clan wanted it to be a regular server :p
09:43 <spidey> anyways
09:44 <Stewie-arma> change the normal server now to have some of the Layouts layouts, but have the layouts happen a lot less often
09:44 <spidey> with this dual opteron we *should* be able to host 3 trem servers
09:44 <Stewie-arma> aww
09:45 <Stewie-arma> the only thing that gets annoying on pushcannon is the humans camping ontop of the chimney
09:45 <spidey> lol
09:46 <Stewie-arma> oh and I got around me not having a two button mouse
09:46 <Stewie-arma> I just set alternate fire to the command button
09:47 <Stewie-arma> holy smokes 13 guests!
09:47 <Durka> spidey: :P
09:47 <Durka> #noob7 Are you alive? :S
09:48 <Stewie-arma> no?
09:48 <Durka> #m noob7 Are you alive? :S
09:48 <spidey> 13 guests?
09:48 <armabot> Durka: The operation succeeded.
09:48 <Stewie-arma> ?
09:48 <Durka> #m Stewie-arma stfu
09:48 <Stewie-arma> In total there are 15 users online :: 2 Registered, 0 Hidden and 13 Guests   [ Administrator ]   [ Moderator ]
09:48 <armabot> Durka: The operation succeeded.
09:48 <Stewie-arma> stop that durka
09:48 <Stewie-arma> #m Durka STOP THAT!
09:48 <armabot> Stewie-arma: The operation succeeded.
09:48 <Stewie-arma> lol
09:48 <Durka> =/
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09:49 <Stewie-arma> you deserved it
09:49 <Stewie-arma> hello hang3r
09:49 <Stewie-arma> and now 2 hidden people are on
09:49 <hang3r> Define Hidden.
09:50 <Stewie-arma> on the forums
09:50 <Stewie-arma> damn it durka stop that
09:50 <Durka> XD
09:50 <Durka> <3
09:50 <hang3r> Well you know they're there, so they aren't hidden now are they ;)
09:50 <Durka> wow
09:50 <Durka> Google visits: 320838
09:50 <Durka> wow
09:50 <Stewie-arma> lol
09:51 <Durka> i never knew google knew about my forums :O
09:51 <Stewie-arma> ofcourse it did
09:51 <Stewie-arma> how do you think I found it?
09:51 <Durka> x(
09:51 <Durka> x) *
09:51 <Durka> http://durkadurkaland.com/statistics.php (i always love staring at this page, so interesting :P )
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09:55 <Durka> hi xion
09:55 <Stewie-arma> no it's kidanger
09:55 <Stewie-arma> god durka
09:55 <Stewie-arma> be smarter
09:55 <Durka> -.-
09:55 <Stewie-arma> lol
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10:33 <Durka> MaZuffeR: !! :)
10:34 <MaZuffeR> Durka
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10:34 <Durka> How've you been?
10:34 <MaZuffeR> good
10:35 <epsy> Excellent ?
10:35 <Durka> How's you're break been?
10:35 <MaZuffeR> long :P
10:36 <Durka> epsy: http://durkas.info
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10:36 <epsy> err what?
10:36 <epsy> there will be another 2007 AFL ?
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10:54 <MrBougo> http://www.explosm.net/comics/1021/
10:54 <MrBougo> hahaa
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11:28 <MrBougo> bye
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11:31 <spidey> Lucifer_arma,
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12:17 <epsy> #lastseen Monkey
12:17 <armabot> epsy: supermonkeyzoid has last been seen on Norm's Place 1 hour 40 minutes ago.
12:17 <epsy> #lastseen -f Monkey
12:17 <armabot> epsy: Monkey has last been seen on WILDCAT 3 hours 10 minutes ago.
12:17 <epsy> #lastseen hoop
12:17 <armabot> epsy: hoop seems to be on Bugfarm Elimination Sumo right now.
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14:48 <noob7> #memo Durka kinda
14:48 <noob7> #m Durka kinda
14:48 <armabot> noob7: The operation succeeded.
14:49 <spidey> Lucifer_arma,
15:00 <epsy> #m Durka can i play for 2 teams at once ?
15:00 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
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16:20 <Khalsa> Is the script for the "resource browser" available somewhere?
16:25 <Khalsa> apparently wrtlprnft is the one to ping :-)
16:26 <Khalsa> or unping, as it's in svn, my bad yo
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16:46 <spidey> lol
16:53  * Khalsa should think before typing
16:55  * Khalsa sets up another map mirror
16:56  * spidey mirrored the AA downloads before he started using alot of b/w on other servers
16:57 <spidey> yay
16:57 <spidey> should be able to put up the other 2 tremulous servers by the end of the month :)
16:57 <spidey> i miss our layouts server :(
16:58 <spidey> the layouts where setup basically in a anti-camping way :D
16:59 <spidey> which reminds me
16:59 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, !
17:00 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, the server we're hosting for AFL will *probably* be down for a week or 2 max because we will *probably* be moving servers
17:02 <spidey> #night
17:02 <armabot> Good night spidey!
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18:04 <Durka> #m Lucifer_arma I don't know where you went last night, but PLEASE add the link to your post, thanks :D
18:04 <armabot> Durka: The operation succeeded.
18:05 <Durka> hi Lackadaisical
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19:31 <Khalsa> Hey guys, if you care I mirrored your resources folder here : http://www.mercenariesguild.net/resources/
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19:54 <epsy> back
19:55 <MrBougo> front
19:56 <epsy> we have a mirror on MG ? oh that's like a crowning :P
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21:09 <Khalsa> yeah but plans to make it like our tremulous mirror epsy
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21:09 <Khalsa> unless our code monkeys decide to start making patches for arma
21:17 <epsy> yea but arma's resource system is not like any other game's ones
21:18 <epsy> brb i'm eating
21:22 <epsy> back
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21:22 <epsy> Khalsa, there are actually serval resource repo's mirrors
21:23 <epsy> and they're all updated when there's a new resource which is uploaded
21:23 <luke-jr> epsy: there are?
21:23 <epsy> there's already a script
21:23 <epsy> i presume
21:23 <luke-jr> 2 != several :)
21:23 <epsy> luke-jr, you are always fighting with wrtlprnft about you're dns's weakness
21:23 <epsy> *your
21:24 <luke-jr> my DNS is fine
21:24 <luke-jr> Khalsa: would you mind being an official repository mirror? :p
21:24 <epsy> it's weakness or it's fineness
21:24 <epsy> who knows :P
21:24 <epsy> i think that's what he minds
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21:37 <Khalsa> luke-jr: not at all
21:38 <Khalsa> luke-jr: what do you need?
21:38 <Khalsa> I'm doing it mainly because your site is so slow for me
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21:48 <epsy> LOL!
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22:48 <hoop_tron> hello there
22:50 <tramshed> yar
23:03 <Khalsa> wrtlprnft or luke-jr around?
23:14 <luke-jr> no
23:14 <luke-jr> Khalsa: there's a wiki page for setting up a mirror
23:15 <Khalsa> OH
23:15 <Khalsa> really then....
23:15 <epsy> heh
23:16 <Khalsa> can I have a mirror number?
23:16 <Stewie-arma> 2]
23:16 <Khalsa> stupid privewer thing not working
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23:17 <Khalsa> 2?
23:17 <Stewie-arma> lol
23:17 <Khalsa> I'll be the only one?
23:18 <Khalsa> other*
23:18 <Stewie-arma> dunno
23:18 <Stewie-arma> how about 73?
23:18 <Stewie-arma> 42?
23:18 <Stewie-arma> look at the wiki
23:19 <Khalsa> i'm not a fan >_>
23:19 <Khalsa> browsing that thing is to painful
23:34 <Stewie-arma> your face is also to painful to browse
23:37 <Khalsa> most likely
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Log from 2007-09-17:
--- Day changed Mon Sep 17 2007
00:02 <Lucifer_arma> #m Durka I went in my bedroom and passed out for 12 hours
00:02 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
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00:44 <spidey> Lucifer_arma,
00:45 <spidey> armastart can be used for anything that uses tty in console
00:45 <spidey> i made it work with tremulous :D
00:49 <Lucifer_arma> :)
00:50 <spidey> i had to change armastart and config.py
00:51 <spidey> like 4 lines in each lol
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01:07 <luke-jr> Khalsa: ...
01:07 <luke-jr> Khalsa: say my name to get my attention
01:07 <luke-jr> like this
01:07 <Khalsa> I did
01:07 <luke-jr> luke-jr: can I have a mirror number?
01:07 <Khalsa> twice
01:08 <Khalsa> oh
01:08 <luke-jr> you're four
01:08 <luke-jr> what IP addresses?
01:08 <Khalsa> well, I would assume you were still reading since you responded like 10 seconds earlier
01:08 <luke-jr> bad assumption
01:08 <luke-jr> :)
01:08 <Khalsa>
01:09 <luke-jr> and email?
01:09 <Khalsa> khalsa@mercenariesguild.net
01:09 <ct|kyle> spam mail time
01:09 <ct|kyle> :P
01:09 <Stewie-arma> yeah
01:09 <Stewie-arma> spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spammity spam!
01:09 <luke-jr> http://four.resource.aa.dashjr.org
01:10 <luke-jr> http://four.resource.aa.dashjr.org/resource/
01:10 <Khalsa> do you have the spam spam spam egg, bacon , and spam without the spam?
01:10 <luke-jr> Khalsa: ping me when it's working :)
01:10 <Khalsa> probably be tomorrow
01:10 <Khalsa> busy at work now
01:12 <Stewie-arma> BLECH!
01:12 <Stewie-arma> you mean just eggs and bacon?
01:12 <Stewie-arma> BLECH!
01:12 <Stewie-arma> I'm having the spam spam spam spam spam spam Backed beans spam and spam
01:13 <Stewie-arma> where all out of backed beans!
01:13 <Stewie-arma> can I get spam instead?
01:13 <Khalsa> and i'll have her spam too, I love spam!
01:13 <Khalsa> spam spam spam spam spam spam
01:13  * Khalsa breaks into song and dance
01:14 <Stewie-arma> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5627694446211716271&q=spam&total=12666&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
01:14 <Stewie-arma> with chinese subtitles
01:14 <Khalsa> lol no thanks
01:14 <Khalsa> I saw the show live in NYC and here in houston
01:18 <Stewie-arma> spamalot?
01:19 <ct|kyle> Khalsa: you have been successfully added to my spam bot
01:19 <Stewie-arma> yay for spam bots
01:19 <Stewie-arma> is it okay if I just forward all my spam to you?
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01:21 <ct|kyle> Lucifer_arma: are you here?
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02:50 <GodTodd> #luke
02:50 <armabot> blah blah jesus blah blah i'm great or smth blah blah RTFM blah blah stfu baka noob blah blah
02:56 <spidey> vodka+ tea = nasty
03:00 <GodTodd> especially if you sweeten the tea
03:00 <spidey> it's sweat tea
03:00 <spidey> rofl
03:00 <spidey> i figured i'd try it
03:01 <spidey> i've drank 1/4 gallon of vodka -.-
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03:10 <GodTodd> sweat tea is even grosser than sweet tea
03:10 <GodTodd> ;)
03:10 <Stewie-arma> dun dun cha
03:20 <spidey> w/e
03:20 <spidey> DIE
03:20 <spidey> go cut yourself
03:20 <spidey> plzkthnc
03:20 <Stewie-arma> why not just tell him to go die in a fire?
03:25 <tramshed> go die of a necrotic spider bite
03:25 <tramshed> and take my isp with you
03:25 <tramshed> for forcing me to get a new ip
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03:29  * GodTodd goes to cut himself.
03:30 <GodTodd> or to print off a Meet the Press transcript...amounts to the same thing :)
03:32 <Stewie-arma> silly boing boing
03:32 <Stewie-arma> http://www.boingboing.net/2006/04/11/math-equation-for-a-.html
03:36 <tramshed> brb, my dns propagated
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04:10 <Lucifer_arma> http://technocrat.net/d/2007/9/16/26944
04:13 <Durka> hi Lucifer_arma
04:13 <Lucifer_arma> hi Durka (hi there!)
04:13 <Lucifer_arma> I added the link to my post, sorry about last night
04:13 <Durka> <Lucifer_arma> I went in my bedroom and passed out for 12 hours
04:13 <Durka> xD
04:13 <Lucifer_arma> I'm sick right now :(
04:13 <Durka> :(
04:14 <Lucifer_arma> from the quality of the sleep, and the shape I was in when I woke up, I suspect I developed and beat off a fever while I was sleeping
04:14 <Durka> :S
04:14 <Durka> everything's running smoothly so far :D
04:14 <Lucifer_arma> :)
04:15 <Durka> how long should the signups run for?
04:18 <Lucifer_arma> couple of weeks :)
04:19 <Lucifer_arma> as long as needed for everybody to have a chance at it, and not longer
04:19 <Lucifer_arma> the long signup period for the summer seemed to have an adverse effect on signups, I thought
04:19 <Durka> yea lol
04:20 <spidey> Lucifer_arma,
04:20 <spidey> will you need the afl server the last couple weeks of the month?
04:20 <Lucifer_arma> this month?  probably not
04:20 <Durka> well, the good news is that hoop's on epsy's team, so no hoop team this time :D
04:20 <spidey> good
04:20 <Lucifer_arma> I saw what you said about moving the server
04:20 <spidey> chances are we're moving from the celeron to a dual opteron
04:20 <tramshed> pepperoni ftw.
04:21 <Durka> spidey: could you tell me where the server is located
04:21 <Stewie-arma> I'm pondering whether to sign up for SP team or another team under an alias...
04:21 <Lucifer_arma> I'm not expecting anybody to use it this time, but maybe after it's moved people will love it
04:21 <Durka> "Some fancy place" doesn't help :\
04:21 <spidey> current one?
04:21 <Lucifer_arma> texas, isn't it?  ;)
04:21 <Durka> :S
04:21 <Durka> tbh, I don't think we really need spidey's server ...
04:21 <spidey> utah
04:21 <Durka> k, ty
04:23 <Durka> we really only need 4 servers
04:23 <Durka> 1. Z-mans
04:23 <Lucifer_arma> well, theoretically, teams are supposed to provide their own
04:23 <Stewie-arma> 2. FA?
04:23 <Stewie-arma> oh wait that's spideys
04:23 <Durka> 2. CT
04:23 <Durka> 3. Wrtl
04:23 <Durka> 4. :S ???
04:23 <spidey> well
04:23 <spidey> whatever
04:23 <Stewie-arma> 4. FA?
04:24 <Stewie-arma> lol
04:24 <spidey> i don't really care if it gets used, it's there because it was asked to be there
04:24 <spidey> now i'm going back to drinking my vodka
04:24 <Lucifer_arma> :)
04:24 <Lucifer_arma> thanks for the server, though
04:24 <Lucifer_arma> we do appreciate that there's a good server there for people to use
04:24 <spidey> honestly it's probably not that good atm
04:24 <Stewie-arma> spidey can you pass some this way?
04:24 <spidey> the server's backbone is having problems
04:25 <Durka> no one will play in it anyways
04:25 <spidey> people keep timing out of tremulous/teamspeak
04:25 <Durka> no euro's at least
04:25 <spidey> yea well
04:25 <spidey> fuck the euro's
04:25 <Durka> i see now
04:25 <spidey> as i've always said :)
04:25 <Stewie-arma> trem is the worst, tremx just stop showing up
04:25 <Durka> for the summer season, there were only 3 games a weekend
04:25 <spidey> they expect us to play with a 200 ping
04:25 <Durka> b/c °°ps dropped out
04:25 <spidey> but when there's is over 100 they bitch to no end
04:25 <spidey> so, fuck them :)
04:25 <Durka> :D
04:25 <Stewie-arma> lol I got used to the 230+ ping
04:25 <Durka> spidey, play the afl with me :D
04:25 <Stewie-arma> just sometimes it gets worse than usual
04:26 <spidey> i get 150~
04:26 <spidey> but that's not the point
04:26 <spidey> :P
04:26 <Durka> play in*
04:26 <Vanhayes> #ping
04:26 <armabot> pong
04:26 <spidey> #vangaynus
04:27 <Durka> OMG guys guess what?
04:27 <spidey> #vananl
04:27 <spidey> baha
04:27 <Durka> http://te.wikipedia.org/wiki/మొదటి_పేజీ
04:27 <spidey> Durka, what? you're gay? :O
04:27 <Durka> -.-
04:27 <spidey> <3
04:27 <Durka> </3
04:27 <Stewie-arma> btw durka spidey quit tron
04:27 <spidey> <3!
04:27 <Durka> nowai!
04:27  * Durka pokes Vanhayes 
04:27 <spidey> yea
04:27 <Stewie-arma> what like 3 months ago?
04:27 <spidey> fuck that game :p
04:28  * Vanhayes didnt feel it
04:28  * Durka kills Vanhayes >:)
04:28  * Stewie-arma pokes Vanhayes' dead body
04:28 <Durka> (with a stick ^^ )
04:28 <Stewie-arma> aa haha aa hahahahaha
04:28  * spidey brings a tommy gun and wipes everyone out
04:28 <spidey> die.
04:28  * Stewie-arma rant rapes spidey
04:28 <Durka> die. (notice the period!!!)
04:29 <Stewie-arma> haha can't dodge the rant rape what now WHAT NOW!?!?!?
04:29 <spidey> atm
04:29 <spidey> i probably couldn't dodge a marauder
04:29 <Stewie-arma> lol
04:29 <Vanhayes> zing?
04:29 <Vanhayes> i dont get it
04:29 <Stewie-arma> what about a basilisk?
04:29 <Stewie-arma> oh wait they latch onto you
04:29 <spidey> if i tried to play tremulous right now i'd end up banning half te server
04:30 <Stewie-arma> lol
04:30 <Stewie-arma> why?
04:30 <Vanhayes> Durka: when is the first afl fall game?
04:30 <Stewie-arma> Vanhayes: TBA
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04:31 <Vanhayes> i live when x-chat crashes
04:31 <Vanhayes> love*
04:31 <Stewie-arma> say wha?
04:31 <Vanhayes> my irc client crashed
04:31 <Stewie-arma> "<Stewie-arma> Vanhayes: TBA"
04:32 <Vanhayes> ya, that was the last message I got
04:32 <Stewie-arma> aww
04:32 <Stewie-arma> that was the last message sent before you left
04:32 <Stewie-arma> and none before you came back
04:32 <Vanhayes> hmm, spidey didnt you say you re installed arma?
04:33 <Stewie-arma> yeah but he didn't say he played it
04:33 <Stewie-arma> lol
04:33 <Durka> Vanhayes: Sunday's at 18:00 GMT work for u?
04:33 <Stewie-arma> Durka: he was asking you when the first one was
04:33 <Vanhayes> uh if the game is in the next two weeks, then maybe
04:33 <spidey> yea i got tron
04:33 <spidey> but
04:33 <Durka> october
04:33 <spidey> yea i got tron why?
04:33 <Vanhayes> no dice, ill be gone by then
04:34 <Durka> :\
04:34 <Vanhayes> spidey: just wondering when the last time you played was
04:34 <spidey> um
04:34 <spidey> 3-4 days ago
04:34 <spidey> Vanhayes, come drink with me :D
04:34 <Durka> #Vanhayes
04:34 <armabot> eh? eh? eh? eh? eh? eh? EH?!?!?!!!!!!1111ONEONE
04:34 <spidey> #dorka
04:35 <spidey> #DORKA
04:35 <spidey> ffs
04:35 <Vanhayes> i got drunk yesturday, sundays are recovery
04:35 <spidey> pft
04:35 <spidey> i drink like twice a year
04:35 <Stewie-arma> #luke-jr
04:35 <Stewie-arma> darn
04:35 <Stewie-arma> lol
04:35 <spidey> so it happens when it happens :p
04:35 <Stewie-arma> it worked earlier today
04:35 <Durka> #hyphy
04:35 <Vanhayes> i drink twice a weekend
04:35 <spidey> we got 1/2 bottle of vodka xD
04:35 <armabot> Durka: lawlz of hi5 j00 n00bz ace pwnz or of i in life n robs ccz and moneyz $ _ $ of ur of the makez
04:35 <spidey> 1/2 gallon*
04:36 <Stewie-arma> lol that makes no sense
04:36 <Vanhayes> heh, was gonna say a half bottle of vodka can be alot or a little
04:36 <Vanhayes> #g .5 gallons in litres
04:36 <spidey> it doesn't even burn anymore >.>
04:36 <armabot> blame google for closing their damn API
04:36 <Durka> Stewie-arma: Can code hunter count...srsrly...
04:36 <spidey> tastes like water
04:36 <Stewie-arma> no he can't
04:36 <Stewie-arma> why you ask?
04:37 <spidey> .5 US gallons = 1.8927059 liters
04:37 <spidey> i'm armabot
04:37 <spidey> phear me
04:37 <Stewie-arma> you aren't damn it
04:37 <Stewie-arma> Durka: why do you ask
04:37 <Stewie-arma> ?
04:37 <spidey> Stewie-arma, come let me tk you
04:38 <Durka> http://speederclan.5.forumer.com/index.php?showtopic=6013
04:38 <luke-jr> ...
04:38 <spidey> ...
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04:38 <spidey> luke-jr, go away
04:38 <Durka> About me: Im 21, my birthday is October 31st, 1981. Yes, Halloween boy
04:38 <spidey> noone summoned you
04:38 <spidey> :D
04:38 <Stewie-arma> oh lol
04:38 <luke-jr> spidey:
04:38 <spidey> Lucifer_arma,
04:38 <spidey> luke-jr,
04:38 <luke-jr> Stewie-arma: did
04:38 <Durka> he's 21 and born one before me
04:38 <spidey> lies
04:38 <Durka> yet i'm 3 years older o_O
04:38 <Stewie-arma> lol I didn't notice that
04:38 <luke-jr> Durka: I WANT THAT LINK
04:38 <Vanhayes_> im almost 19
04:38 <Durka> WHICH?!!
04:38 <Lucifer_arma> kid
04:38 <Lucifer_arma> kids
04:38 <Lucifer_arma> all of you
04:39 <luke-jr> [Sun Sep 16 2007] [01:10:39] <Durka> have a look, but don't share the link please
04:39 <Lucifer_arma> just a bunch of damn kids!
04:39 <Lucifer_arma> :)
04:39  * Durka & Vanhayes have the same b-day :)))
04:39 <Vanhayes_> I need to buy booze one more time illegally, before its too late
04:39 <Durka> luke-jr: http://durkas.info
04:39 <Vanhayes_> my birthday is sept 30
04:39 <Durka> same :P
04:39 <Stewie-arma> Durka: can you get me some guiness?
04:39 <luke-jr> Durka: learn to write CSS
04:39 <Vanhayes_> well, almost happy borthday to you
04:39 <Durka> luke-jr: css FTL
04:39 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, how would i go about making a switch for "armparms"
04:40 <Durka> even though i used it
04:40 <Vanhayes_> guiness is the best foriegn beer
04:40 <spidey> eg i pass say -t (for tremulous) then it'll use tremParms instead of armaParms
04:40 <Stewie-arma> Vanhayes_: thus why I'm asking him for some
04:40 <Stewie-arma> btw what are some good canadian beers?
04:40 <Lucifer_arma> armparms?
04:40 <spidey> armastart
04:41 <Lucifer_arma> eek, I haven't looked at armastart's code in awhile, and I'm sicker than your dog right now
04:41 <Vanhayes_> though since you are american I guess canadian beer is considered foriegn, so that statement cant be true for you :)
04:41 <spidey> xD
04:41 <Stewie-arma> rofl
04:41 <Stewie-arma> yet it still is
04:41 <Lucifer_arma> Vanhayes_: no, canadian beer is considered weak
04:41 <Vanhayes_> depends on the brand
04:41 <Stewie-arma> lol Durka you like the results of the poll?
04:41 <spidey> vodka > beer
04:41 <Stewie-arma> 1 yes 6 no
04:41 <Lucifer_arma> heh, I told my wife that as soon as the ratio of CAD to USD is greater than 1:1, the US would officially classify as third world
04:42 <Vanhayes_> ha
04:42 <Durka> havent looked
04:42 <Durka> xD
04:42 <Vanhayes_> so in the next year or so, if things continue
04:42 <Stewie-arma> Lucifer
04:42 <Stewie-arma> woops
04:42 <Vanhayes_> i think we are at 97 cents
04:42 <Lucifer_arma> could happen next week, US economy is tanking again
04:43 <Lucifer_arma> maybe I just have a biased point of view, my wife just being laid off and all, but I think it's tanking
04:43 <Stewie-arma> Lucifer_arma: yet still the presidents will try to pull the richest country ever thing
04:43 <Vanhayes_> the canadian economy is doing alright, you just make us look alot better
04:43 <Durka> #Vanhayes
04:43 <armabot> eh? eh? eh? eh? eh? eh? EH?!?!?!!!!!!1111ONEONE
04:44 <Stewie-arma> #durka
04:44 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: am I on your ignore?
04:44 <spidey> if the usd becomes = cad
04:44 <spidey> we should bomb .ca
04:44 <spidey> so cad = usd
04:44 <Stewie-arma> if cad > usd then we need to nuke .ca
04:45 <Lucifer_arma> Stewie-arma: that's because at their levels, they are richer than ever
04:45 <Vanhayes_> I doubt america could get away with bombing a non third world country
04:45 <luke-jr> Durka: what do you think about a month of free Arma hosting as part of the AFL prize?
04:45 <Lucifer_arma> perhaps you should pay more attention to the phrase "rapidly disappearing middle class"
04:45 <luke-jr> Vanhayes_: you underestimate Bush
04:45 <luke-jr> Vanhayes_: or overestimate
04:45 <Vanhayes_> well since he is about to leave...
04:45 <Lucifer_arma> we're pretty fucked anyway, going to a IP/services based economy guarantees we're fucked
04:45 <luke-jr> Vanhayes_: maybe
04:46 <Stewie-arma> he still has a full year
04:46 <luke-jr> Vanhayes_: all he needs to do is declare martial law
04:46 <Lucifer_arma> we're just not smart enough to expect the whole world to sit at our knees and listen to our wisdom
04:46 <Lucifer_arma> especially  not after we've alienated most of them over the war in Iraq
04:46 <luke-jr> Vanhayes_: and poof-- he's our new dictator
04:46 <Stewie-arma> Lucifer_arma: when did we start getting wise
04:46 <Durka> luke-jr: Are you up for doing that, Lucifer_arma: sound good to u?
04:46 <luke-jr> Durka: Lucifer_arma can't see anything I say
04:46 <Stewie-arma> last I check our scores were lower than third world countrie's
04:46 <Lucifer_arma> and since we've been cutting manufacturing and shit for so long in favor of "services" and "intellectual property", we have nothing
04:46 <Stewie-arma> blech
04:46 <Lucifer_arma> #last --from luke-jr --nolimit
04:47 <Stewie-arma> if I had proper grammar
04:47 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: [04:45:08] <luke-jr> Durka: Lucifer_arma can't see anything I say, [04:44:56] <luke-jr> Vanhayes_: and poof-- he's our new dictator, [04:44:34] <luke-jr> Vanhayes_: all he needs to do is declare martial law, [04:44:24] <luke-jr> Vanhayes_: maybe, [04:44:04] <luke-jr> Vanhayes_: or overestimate, [04:43:52] <luke-jr> Vanhayes_: you underestimate Bush, [04:43:43] <luke-jr> Durka: what do (22 more messages)
04:47 <Lucifer_arma> #more
04:47 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: you think about a month of free Arma hosting as part of the AFL prize?, [04:42:47] <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: am I on your ignore?, [04:38:14] <luke-jr> Durka: learn to write CSS, [04:37:26] <luke-jr> [Sun Sep 16 2007] [01:10:39] <Durka> have a look, but don't share the link please, [04:37:12] <luke-jr> Durka: I WANT THAT LINK, [04:37:00] <luke-jr> Stewie-arma: did, [04:36:52] <luke-jr> (21 more messages)
04:47 <Stewie-arma> I guess that is a yes
04:47 <Durka> Lucifer_arma: <luke-jr> Durka: what do you think about a month of free Arma hosting as part of the AFL prize?
04:47 <Stewie-arma>  [04:42:47] <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: am I on your ignore?
04:47 <Vanhayes_> does it still highlight if you are ignoring the person who said your name Lucifer_arma ?
04:47 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: sure, no idea how useful it'll be, but it can't hurt :)
04:47 <Lucifer_arma> Vanhayes_: no, I don't see it, it can't highlight
04:48 <Durka> luke-jr: deal :P
04:48 <Lucifer_arma> I think the ignore is done server-side
04:48 <luke-jr> ignore is client-side
04:48 <Vanhayes_> ah ok, wasnt sure
04:48 <luke-jr> Durka: hey, wait till you hear the other side of the agreement :p
04:48 <Durka> ;(
04:48 <luke-jr> LOL
04:48 <Durka> :'(
04:48 <Vanhayes_> way off topic, but  just curious: do they have Prime times in the USA?
04:48 <Durka> #quote get 21
04:48 <armabot> Durka: Quote #21: "<Luke-Jr_work__> btw, pedophile is good" (added by spidey at 06:34 AM, September 09, 2006)
04:48 <luke-jr> wtf is a prime time
04:49 <Stewie-arma> lol
04:49 <Lucifer_arma> Vanhayes_: like with TV?
04:49 <Lucifer_arma> we invented prime time
04:49 <Vanhayes_> heh no, knew you got that
04:49 <Lucifer_arma> 7-9pm every weeknight
04:49 <Stewie-arma> lol
04:49 <luke-jr> Durka: http://forums.armagetron.net/ is spam, BTW
04:49 <Vanhayes_> they are mini cigars
04:49 <Stewie-arma> lol no
04:49 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, not sure about that particular brand, but we have lots of mini-cigars
04:50 <Durka> no no no, luke-jr: http://durkadurkaland.com is spam, fosho
04:50 <Stewie-arma> durka you missed the ad at the end of armagetron
04:50 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah
04:50 <Lucifer_arma> this season will probably be a lot more competitive than the summer
04:50 <Lucifer_arma> so if luke's got any plans on trying to capitalize off the season directly, *now* is the time to start rampin that up
04:50 <Vanhayes_> ive tried most cigars/ mini cigars they sell here and prime time are probably my favorite
04:51 <Vanhayes_> is luke-jr still trying to/selling servers?
04:51 <Durka> LOL!
04:51 <Stewie-arma> Vanhayes_ you don't see as many cigar smokers in USA anymore
04:52 <Vanhayes_> really? lots around here, for some reason people believe its healthier
04:52 <luke-jr> healthier than what?
04:52 <Vanhayes_> it might be a little, but not that much
04:52 <Stewie-arma> lol
04:52 <Vanhayes_> cigs
04:52 <Stewie-arma> ? 2007 AFL, Some Rights Reserved
04:52 <luke-jr> Vanhayes_: cigs are healthier than cigs?
04:52 <Vanhayes_> cigars are healthier than cigarettes
04:53 <Lucifer_arma> what are you confused about?
04:53 <luke-jr> Vanhayes_: I say both should be illegal
04:53 <Lucifer_arma> cigars are only healthier than cigarettes for two reasons
04:53 <Lucifer_arma> 1.  None of the crazy additives you find in cigarettes (solved by smoking additive free cigarettes)
04:53 <Vanhayes_> dont inhale, and not as frequent
04:53 <Lucifer_arma> 2.  They're so nasty, you don't smoke as much
04:54 <Vanhayes_> most people dont inhale a cigar, jusat let the smoke stay in your mouth
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04:54 <Lucifer_arma> right, so the danger with cigars is mouth cancer over lung cancer, typically
04:54 <Stewie-arma> Durka: looks like you have over 4 servers
04:55 <Stewie-arma> http://durkas.info/afl/servers.php
04:55 <Lucifer_arma> with dips you also are in danger of throat cancer, because of the tendency to swallow the nasty shit (stomach cancer too)
04:55 <Vanhayes_> ya, they show the moth cancer warning on most cigar packs, cases
04:55 <Stewie-arma> moth cancer lol
04:55 <Lucifer_arma> that warning's for real :)
04:55 <Vanhayes_> ya, its an epidemic, 3 out of 5 moths die from moth cancer
04:56 <Stewie-arma> Vanhayes_: they also find the 1 out of every 3 rats die from chemicals...
04:57 <Vanhayes_> thats because rats are dirty
04:57 <Stewie-arma> the other 2/3 die from being tests
04:57 <Stewie-arma> lol
04:57 <Vanhayes_> and they like the taste of rat poison
04:57 <Khalsa> a roster is a list of players right?
04:57 <Lucifer_arma> yep
04:58 <Khalsa> then rules 4 through 7 kind of dont jive the way they are worded http://durkas.info/afl/rules.php
04:59 <luke-jr> 4 and 5 contradict each other
04:59 <luke-jr> wtf
04:59 <Khalsa> how can they "not change throughout the season" then the following 3-4 rules are all about how to change it?
04:59 <Stewie-arma> lol
04:59 <Durka> well
04:59 <Durka> the idea was
04:59 <Lucifer_arma> becasue without outside intervention, they can't be changed :)
04:59 <Stewie-arma> you get the point
04:59 <Durka> the odd rules contradict the even ones
04:59 <Lucifer_arma> heh
04:59 <Durka> (i copied these from luci)
04:59 <Lucifer_arma> see, you're supposed to think of the roster as unchangeable
05:00 <Lucifer_arma> but in special circumstances, they can be changed
05:00 <Stewie-arma> but it can be changed
05:00 <Lucifer_arma> when it's to the league's advantage
05:00 <Lucifer_arma> think of it like this:
05:00 <Lucifer_arma> you have your unchangeable roster
05:00 <Lucifer_arma> then half your team gets killed in a terrorist attack initiated by the other half of your team
05:00 <Lucifer_arma> you're all that's left
05:00 <Lucifer_arma> so we either forfeit your team for the rest of the season, or we allow you to rebuild it
05:00 <Lucifer_arma> rebuilding it is more fun, forfeiting is not
05:01 <Khalsa> that makes sense, the rules should say that ^^^
05:01 <Durka> ROFL Lucifer_arma
05:01 <Khalsa> >_>
05:01 <Stewie-arma> lol
05:01 <Durka> terrorist attack xD
05:01 <Lucifer_arma> the rules do say that :)
05:01 <Durka> Khalsa: any other names?
05:01 <Stewie-arma> that wouldn't be a terrorist attack actually
05:01 <Khalsa> Durka: what?
05:01 <Stewie-arma> unless you count a team as a country
05:01 <Lucifer_arma> mind you, I (and you!) live in a place that has right-on-red laws
05:02 <Lucifer_arma> red means stop!  Always!
05:02 <Durka> Lucifer_arma: then half your team gets killed in a terrorist attack initiated by the other half of your team
05:02 <Durka> XD
05:02 <Lucifer_arma> but if you're turning right, you can treat it like a stop sign
05:02 <GodTodd> bah just add a "except under special circumstances and with approval of a judge" to 4
05:02 <Lucifer_arma> no!
05:02  * Durka sigh
05:02 <Lucifer_arma> because, get this, then people will always decide they have special circumstances
05:02 <Stewie-arma> again it would not be a terrorist attack
05:02 <Durka> damnit
05:02 <Lucifer_arma> and we'll spend most of our time trying to explain to them that their circumstances are not special
05:02 <Durka> i can't find #4
05:02 <Durka> all i see is <li>
05:03 <GodTodd> and people don't try and change them now?
05:03 <Lucifer_arma> sorry, but if your teammate can't show up to every game, that's hardly special circumstances
05:03 <GodTodd> :P
05:03 <Lucifer_arma> they do, but my experience over the summer was that most attempts were for good reasons
05:03 <Lucifer_arma> if you say "your roster can't change except ...", we'll get more bad reasons on the pile
05:04 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, I need to get aflbot running again, don't I?
05:04 <Stewie-arma> yeah you do
05:04 <Durka> ok
05:04 <Durka> I think i fixed it
05:04 <Durka> hit refresh
05:04 <Durka> #4 and #5 should make sense now
05:04 <Durka> :P
05:04 <Lucifer_arma> bahahahaha
05:04 <Stewie-arma> blech they make worse sense now
05:05 <GodTodd> hahahaha
05:05 <Durka> better?
05:05 <Durka> let's see if anyone notices >:)
05:05 <Stewie-arma> no
05:05 <Stewie-arma> lol
05:05 <Durka> then we will know if anyone actually reads the rules
05:05 <Khalsa> LOL
05:05 <Khalsa> I only read up to #4
05:06 <GodTodd> it'd be better if it had something like "depending on how well the judges like you and your team"
05:06 <GodTodd> get some nice emo whining going :)
05:06 <Khalsa> why not, "rosters can be changed with a nominal administration fee sent to Lucifer_arma"
05:06 <Lucifer_arma> man
05:06 <Lucifer_arma> it's just like history class
05:07 <Lucifer_arma> remember loose interpretation of the constitution vs strict interpretation?
05:07 <Khalsa> with payment of a*
05:07 <Lucifer_arma> we get that here, but this seasonw ill probably be worse than last season
05:07 <Lucifer_arma> that was why I wrote the guidelines page, I ot sick of people coming up thinking they were afl lawyers
05:07 <Lucifer_arma> this is more like AD&D
05:07 <Lucifer_arma> me and Durka, we can make decisions that totally contradict the rules if we want
05:07 <Lucifer_arma> we're guided only by what makes the league fun for the most people
05:07 <Khalsa> just saying, maybe you should rewrite it so it's a little less open to interpretation, or just say these are guidlines, our word is law?
05:07 <GodTodd> well..it's human nature...you have more than one person read something, you'll get more than one interpretation of what is being said :)
05:08 <Lucifer_arma> that's what the rules are there for, after all
05:08 <Lucifer_arma> and if the rules get in the way, then fuck the rules for the time being
05:08 <Durka> ok, read them now
05:08 <Lucifer_arma> teams can't make that call, of course :)
05:08 <Lucifer_arma> make it say "seek league approval from Durka or Lucifer"
05:09 <Khalsa> 5-6-7 become redundant with the new 4
05:09 <Lucifer_arma> here's a better idea :)
05:09 <Lucifer_arma> Khalsa: you rewrite the rules and show your rewrite to Durka
05:09 <Lucifer_arma> if he likes it, he uses it :)
05:09 <GodTodd> hahaha delegation...i love it :)
05:09 <Khalsa> hey hey, I'm just giving some nice critisizm on your words
05:09 <Khalsa> no one said anything about me doing work >_>
05:09 <Durka> k, updated AGAIN
05:10 <Lucifer_arma> well, teams can drop players at will
05:10 <GodTodd> work is a 4 letter word..
05:10 <Lucifer_arma> that's kind of important :)
05:10 <Lucifer_arma> if someone on the team gets disgruntled, he can tk everybody and make them lose
05:11 <Lucifer_arma> that's no fun
05:11 <Lucifer_arma> so the team should be able to drop him, and enjoy support for the decision :)
05:11 <GodTodd> we should have a freeciv 1tpd tourny....
05:11 <GodTodd> ;)
05:11 <Lucifer_arma> it's one of those situations that will probably be rare, but when it happens it'll be a big deal for that team
05:12 <Lucifer_arma> heh, maybe we should run a scorched3d league to complement AFL :)
05:12 <Lucifer_arma> I'm surprised the AFL channel hasn't filled up again already
05:12 <Lucifer_arma> probably as we get closer to the games
05:12 <Khalsa> well, maybe want to also avoid that rogue player coming to you and telling you that their team is dropping x player, even though the rogue player is the asshole who needs to be dropped
05:12 <GodTodd> hey...my tourny would be cheap on the prizes...you just try and be the last one to survive (old age, you know) :)
05:13 <Lucifer_arma> Khalsa: I think we'll be well-equipped to deal with that situation
05:13 <GodTodd> Khalsa: ostensibly that's what team captains are for
05:13 <Durka> Lucifer_arma: drop's require our approval
05:13 <Durka> oooo, Lucifer_arma I GOT IT
05:13 <Durka> you know how u said we're free to make our own decisions?
05:13 <Khalsa> oh, didnt see anything about team captains
05:14 <GodTodd> #6
05:14 <Durka> well
05:14 <Khalsa> oh,
05:14 <Lucifer_arma> yep, we do require team captains :)
05:14 <Durka> let's say it's CT vs |x| in the finals
05:14 <Durka> and |x| wins
05:14 <Durka> but then i secretly have |x| take a drug test
05:14 <Durka> and find out that rica took steroids
05:14 <Durka> CT WINS!
05:14 <Durka> xD
05:14 <Lucifer_arma> heh
05:14 <Durka> sorry, i amuse myself sometimes =/
05:15 <GodTodd> heh only a few things wrong with that ;)
05:15 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, but, see, if we didn't allow drug use, not only could we not enforce it, but we wouldn't have any players
05:15 <Lucifer_arma> so our official opinion is to just look the other way :)
05:15  * GodTodd goes to bulk up for a tron game :)
05:15 <GodTodd> i'll push those keys harder than any of y'all
05:16 <GodTodd> :)
05:16 <Durka> LOL
05:16  * Lucifer_arma hopes to establish the only sporting league that doesn't give a shit about drug use
05:17 <Durka> ping pong ^^
05:17 <Durka> o god, one more time, lemme paste that amazing quote
05:17 <GodTodd> luke-jr amazing, or actual amazing?
05:17 <Durka> <Lucifer_arma> then half your team gets killed in a terrorist attack initiated by the other half of your team
05:17 <Khalsa> under season shouldn't it be 3 games per server? as per the info #3 under Games?
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> um, I think that's a changed rule, so there may be inconsistencies that haven't been addressed
05:18 <Durka> Khalsa: english please
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> didn't we agree with 5 matches to a game?
05:18 <Khalsa> oh, nvm
05:18 <Stewie-arma> lucifer sorry they already have video game tourneys
05:18 <Khalsa> difference between matches and games
05:18 <Khalsa> 3 matches = 1 game?
05:18 <Durka> game = best of 5
05:18 <Stewie-arma> 3 win matches = game
05:19 <Durka> yesh!
05:19 <Stewie-arma> up to 3
05:19 <Stewie-arma> I mean 5
05:19 <Durka> yesh! again!
05:19 <Stewie-arma> up to 5 matches
05:19 <Durka> oO
05:19 <Stewie-arma> to a game
05:19 <Lucifer_arma> first past the post, right?
05:19 <Khalsa> read what it says under Games, #3
05:19 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: it should be first past the post
05:19 <Stewie-arma> I can't
05:19 <luke-jr> http://durkas.info/
05:19 <Lucifer_arma> for that many matches, anyway
05:19 <luke-jr> is that the final page?
05:19 <Lucifer_arma> so the first team to win 3 matches wins the game
05:19 <Khalsa> then under Season #2
05:19 <Durka> Lucifer_arma: FFS
05:20 <luke-jr> or will there be like afl.armagetronad.net or such
05:20 <Durka> in 99% of sports
05:20 <Lucifer_arma> we know it'll take a mximum of 5 games for that to happen, but it's different than best 3 of 5 :)
05:20 <Durka> best of = first past the post
05:20 <luke-jr> Durka: fix the AFL site :p
05:20 <Lucifer_arma> ahh, but here it's not :)
05:20 <Durka> ppl understand lol
05:20 <Lucifer_arma> here if your team wins the first 2 in best 2 of 3, the other team demands the third game ;)
05:20 <Lucifer_arma> fine, if we don't have to explicitly state first past the post, then don't
05:20 <Durka> that's not true at all
05:21 <Lucifer_arma> there's only one way to see which of us is right :)
05:21 <Durka> >:)
05:21 <Durka> luke-jr: what's wrong>'
05:21 <Stewie-arma> I AM RIGHT DAME IT!
05:21 <Durka> ToddKitchen !!!
05:21 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o Lucifer_arma] by ChanServ
05:21 <Stewie-arma> Durka why are you saying peoples names?
05:21 -!- Stewie-arma was kicked from #armagetron by Lucifer_arma [don't call me a dame]
05:21 -!- Stewie-arma [n=Stewie-a@cpe-72-130-168-7.san.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
05:21 <Stewie-arma> oh snap
05:21 <@Lucifer_arma> heh
05:21 <luke-jr> Durka: the mailing list stuff overlaps the tabs
05:21 <GodTodd> he's busy...what do you want Durka?
05:21 <spidey> ownbed
05:21 <GodTodd> :P
05:21 <spidey> -b
05:21 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o Lucifer_arma] by Lucifer_arma
05:21 <Stewie-arma> DAME IT!
05:22 <Lucifer_arma> I always kick people more when I'm sick, I've noticed
05:22 <Durka> luke-jr: not on mine, screenshot please?
05:22 <Stewie-arma> good thing I have auto rejoin
05:22 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, i'll give you a nickle if i can have channel op :D
05:22 <Lucifer_arma> and I'm not in the mood to ban
05:22 <luke-jr> Durka: try Ctrl-MouseWheelUp
05:22 <Durka> #alias add xD echo "<Lucifer_arma> then half your team gets killed in a terrorist attack initiated by the other half of your team"
05:22 <armabot> Durka: The operation succeeded.
05:22 <Stewie-arma> Lucifer_arma: I'll give you a dime for channel op
05:22 <Stewie-arma> #xD
05:22 <Lucifer_arma> #xD
05:22 <armabot> <Lucifer_arma> then half your team gets killed in a terrorist attack initiated by the other half of your team
05:22 <armabot> <Lucifer_arma> then half your team gets killed in a terrorist attack initiated by the other half of your team
05:23 <Durka> luke-jr: ??
05:23 <Stewie-arma> fine I'll give you a quarter for channel op
05:23 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: i'll give you a dick for channel op
05:23 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o GodTodd] by ChanServ
05:23 -!- luke-jr was kicked from #armagetron by GodTodd [User terminated!]
05:23 <spidey> haha
05:23 <Stewie-arma> lol
05:23 <@GodTodd> :D
05:23 <Stewie-arma> that's terrible
05:23 <spidey> haha
05:24 <Khalsa> ok, so the team who get's their matches on their declared home server has a bit of an advantage, as they have a better chance of winning 3-in-a-row on a low ping server right?
05:24 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o Lucifer_arma] by ChanServ
05:24 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o GodTodd] by Lucifer_arma
05:24 <Khalsa> get's it first*
05:24 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o Lucifer_arma] by Lucifer_arma
05:24 <Durka> Khalsa: sure i guess
05:24 <Stewie-arma> who started this channel?
05:24 <Lucifer_arma> Khalsa: that's why there's supposed to be two games for each pair up
05:24 <Lucifer_arma> one on each team's home server
05:24 <Durka> too complicated ^^
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> it'll make more sense when you see the schedule
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> not that complicated
05:25 <Durka> all that REALLY matters is the play offs
05:25 <Durka> we should instead have only 6 teams make the playoffs
05:25 <Durka> with the top 2 getting byes
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> well, your position in the playoffs determines which team gets the server
05:25 <Stewie-arma> and by 6 you mean 8
05:25 <Khalsa> Lucifer_arma: that's now how the rules make it sound
05:25 <Durka> that gets motivation
05:25 <Stewie-arma> cause then you would have one team get a by
05:25 <Khalsa> s/now/not/
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: speaking of which, should we go back to the four-team playoffs?
05:25 <Durka> no
05:25 <Durka> 6 team playoffs
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> that was the original plan, playoffs being roughly half the teams that participated
05:25 <Stewie-arma> ...
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> are there 8 teams already?
05:26 <Stewie-arma> then one team gets a buy to the finals
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> I'm actually expecting more this time, for some reason
05:26 <Durka> no...but there will >:)
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> 6 team playoffs are fine with me
05:26 <Stewie-arma> after winning first round
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> I have a preference for eliminating the bottom-ranked teams anyway
05:26 <Stewie-arma> ...
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> we didn't in the summer because of ooops's withdrawal, the only way I could see for the playoffs to be fair was to just let everyone in
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> we shouldn't have that problem this time, though
05:27 <Stewie-arma> if you have 6 team play offs then after the first round of the play offs there will be a team that gets a buy to the finals
05:27 <Durka> if we have 8 teams in the league, 6 team playoffs would work best since the worst 2 teams don't make it since they sucked ass during the regular season and the top 2 teams get rewarded for doing so well in the regular season by getting byes the first round, the #3 and #4 seeds get decent draws, mkay?
05:27 <Stewie-arma> and the other two have to duke it out
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> no, two teams are eliminated in the first round
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> then we have four teams left for the second round
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> third round is the final
05:27 <Stewie-arma> ...
05:28 <Stewie-arma> with a 6 team play off then you need 3 matches in first round of final
05:28 <Durka> no Stewie-arma
05:28 <Stewie-arma> ...
05:28 <Durka> the first round is
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> the playoffs are a knockout tournament
05:28 <Stewie-arma> I know lucifer
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> the regular season seeds it
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> so the first round has two games, four teams
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> two fo them lose, two win and advance
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> then the two that had byes come in and we have two more ames with four teams
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> again, two lose, and two advance to the championship
05:28 <Durka> #1 vs [bye]
05:28 <Durka> #4 vs #5
05:28 <Durka> #3 vs #6
05:28 <Durka> #2 vs [bye]
05:28 <Stewie-arma> so either way there is a bye
05:29 <Durka> get it?
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> well yeah, that's the point
05:29 <GodTodd> 1, 2 get byes...3 plays 6, 4 plays 5.........r2......1 plays 5 or6, 2 plays 3 or 4........r3 winners play
05:29 <Stewie-arma> blech
05:29 <Stewie-arma> I get it
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> the reason you want to be one of the highest ranked teams is so you don't get eliminated
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> in the first round, I mean
05:29 <GodTodd> yep
05:29 <Stewie-arma> eh
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> so while they're playing the first round, yu're practicing
05:29 <Stewie-arma> if you want it that way
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> hopefully :)
05:29 <Durka> teams #7, #8 can play mini golf together :P
05:30 <spidey> ...
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> or practice for the spring :)
05:30 <Durka> xD
05:30 <GodTodd> or get a life...
05:30 <GodTodd> :)
05:30 <Stewie-arma> no one practices for spring
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> I suspect this is going to work out well enough that a spring season will run too
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05:30 <spidey> haha
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> I hope so, I didn't start AFL just to stop it right away
05:30 <spidey> wb luke-jr
05:30 <Durka> Khalsa: What names do you use ingame? :\
05:30 <Stewie-arma> lol the high rubber tilt did
05:30 <luke-jr> GodTodd: apologize
05:30 <Durka> o yea, Stewie-arma wasn't that tonight? :S
05:30 <Stewie-arma> lol
05:31 <Stewie-arma> I didn't sign up so I wouldn't know
05:31 <GodTodd> soon as you apologize for all the times you've done that to me :)
05:31 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o luke-jr] by ChanServ
05:31 <Stewie-arma> GodTodd get a life
05:31 -!- GodTodd was kicked from #armagetron by luke-jr [sorry]
05:31 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o luke-jr] by luke-jr
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> holy shit, luke did something funny
05:31 <luke-jr> :)
05:31 -!- GodTodd [n=TheTruth@pool-71-123-207-64.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> quick, take a picture!
05:31 <Stewie-arma> it's a miracle!
05:31 <Khalsa> Durka: Gursikh and khalsa
05:31 <GodTodd> oh no! i'm so hurt now!
05:32 <Stewie-arma> praise Jesus, luke-jr made a joke!
05:32 <Lucifer_arma> this is like a first
05:32 <Lucifer_arma> maybe there is a god, because that was a fucking miracle!
05:32 <Stewie-arma> well by a joke I mean a funny joke
05:32 <Durka> #roulette
05:32 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
05:32  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
05:32 <GodTodd> [2007-09-16 22:29] [Kick] You have been kicked from channel #armagetron by luke-jr (sorry).
05:32 <Stewie-arma> lol
05:32 <GodTodd> someone quote that :)
05:33 <Stewie-arma> quote it damn it
05:33 <Stewie-arma> #roulette
05:33 <armabot> Stewie-arma: *click*
05:33 <Stewie-arma> phew
05:33 <luke-jr> http://lightfoot.dashjr.org/?page=afl
05:33 <Durka> Khalsa: Ah, so you're the one on the xzl site that asked for the settings :D
05:33 <luke-jr> should I up the prices, since this isn't a short-season, I wonder?
05:33 <Khalsa> yup
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> #quote add  [Kick] You have been kicked from channel #armagetron by luke-jr (sorry).
05:34 <Stewie-arma> yup
05:34 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
05:34  * Khalsa is lazier than he seems
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> heh, oops
05:34 <GodTodd> luke-jr: dunno...have you had any luck with your current prices?
05:34 <Stewie-arma> lol
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> #quote add -Kick- You have been kicked from channel #armagetron by luke-jr (sorry).
05:34 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
05:34 <luke-jr> GodTodd: no
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> grrr
05:34 <Stewie-arma> lol
05:34 <GodTodd> luke-jr: then i'd have to say probably not
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> #quote add -Kick- You have been kicked from channel #armagetron by luke-jr (sorry).
05:34 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.  Quote #59 added.
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> there
05:34 <luke-jr> GodTodd: I suspect I was late to the short-season
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> #quote get 59
05:34 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #59: "-Kick- You have been kicked from channel #armagetron by luke-jr (sorry)." (added by Lucifer_arma at 05:33 AM, September 17, 2007)
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> now it looks like I got kicked
05:35 <luke-jr> and it's easier to lower prices than to raise them... hm
05:35 <luke-jr> lol
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> #q
05:35 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #19: "If we were wolves and we snuck into China, they'd try to eat us, but we'd eat them. --Lucifer's Son" (added by Lucifer_arma at 11:36 PM, July 05, 2006)
05:35 <Stewie-arma> lol
05:35 <Stewie-arma> Lucifer that's cute
05:35  * GodTodd just knows that if business is slow *raising* prices usually doesn't speed it up
05:36 <luke-jr> GodTodd: yeah, but this is a new package, so the prices aren't fixed yet
05:36 <luke-jr> the last AFL was just 2 games
05:36 <luke-jr> this one is 8-10
05:36  * GodTodd notes if you eat a person from China you're likely to get lead poisoning...
05:37 <GodTodd> or a funky rash
05:37 <Stewie-arma> or even die!
05:37 <Stewie-arma> oh god!
05:37 <GodTodd> or turn communist!
05:37 <Stewie-arma> AWWW NOT COMMUNIST!
05:37 <Stewie-arma> #kill Stewie-arma
05:37 <armabot> Stewie-arma will die on 08:03 PM, July 06, 2007 GMT due to being stabbed in the eye by Stewie-arma
05:37 <Durka>  
05:37 <Durka>  
05:37 <Durka>  
05:37 <Durka>  
05:37 <Durka>   
05:38 <Durka>  
05:38 <Durka>  
05:38 <Stewie-arma> durka don
05:38 <Durka>   
05:38 <Durka>  
05:38 <Stewie-arma> t be a dick
05:38 <Durka>  
05:38 <Durka>  
05:38 <Durka>  woah wtf
05:38 <luke-jr> ...
05:38 <GodTodd> you are what you eat :)
05:38 <Durka> luke-jr: can I have a screenshot please?
05:38 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o Khalsa] by ChanServ
05:38 <Stewie-arma> Durka srsly don't be an dick
05:38 <Stewie-arma> lol
05:38 <Durka> :S
05:38 <@Khalsa> o_O
05:38 <Stewie-arma> wait why did khalsa get chan op?
05:38 <luke-jr> Durka: no, I lost the URI when GodTodd kicked me
05:39 <GodTodd> no backlog?
05:39 <GodTodd> lame
05:39 <luke-jr> GodTodd: not that far
05:39 <GodTodd> i have mine set to max :)
05:39 <Stewie-arma> why haven't I gotten chan op *whines more*
05:39 <luke-jr> I did, until the IRC client was using like 50 MB for backlog
05:39 <luke-jr> of RAM
05:39 <Durka> luke-jr: durkas.info
05:39 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o Stewie-arma] by ChanServ
05:39 <luke-jr> Durka: that's not a URI
05:39 <@Stewie-arma> yay
05:40 <Durka> -.-
05:40 <@Stewie-arma> that's auto right?
05:40 <@Stewie-arma> ^.^
05:40 <luke-jr> kick yourself and find out?
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05:40 <Durka> bbl
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05:41 -!- mode/#armagetron [+vvvv P4 hoop_tron armabot tramshed] by Khalsa
05:41 -!- mode/#armagetron [+vvvv Lucifer_arma wejp noob13 wrtlprnft] by Khalsa
05:41 -!- mode/#armagetron [+vvvv luke-jr spidey Vanhayes_ guru3] by Khalsa
05:41 -!- mode/#armagetron [+vvvv z-man BedMan Jovan10 Stewie-arma] by Khalsa
05:41 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v ToddKitchen] by Khalsa
05:41 <+Stewie-arma> what?
05:41 <@Khalsa> voice for all!
05:41 <+luke-jr> http://luke.dashjr.org/tmp/snapshot16.png
05:41 <+luke-jr> http://luke.dashjr.org/tmp/snapshot17.png
05:41 <+Stewie-arma> lol
05:41 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v Khalsa] by Khalsa
05:41 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o Khalsa] by Khalsa
05:42 <+Stewie-arma> maybe you shouldn't be zooming in?
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05:42 <+luke-jr> Stewie-arma: I'm not
05:43 <Stewie-arma> ?
05:43 <+luke-jr> well
05:43 <Stewie-arma> wtf?
05:43 <+luke-jr> I am in 17
05:43 <+luke-jr> but either way, it's broken :p
05:43 <Stewie-arma> not fo me
05:43 <+Khalsa> What was the deal with the random op?
05:43 <Stewie-arma> it wasn't random
05:44 <Stewie-arma> damn I'm hungry
05:44 <+GodTodd> amazing...if luke-jr has a web page that's "broken" it's because someone's browser is "lame"...but the other way around it's the sites problem...
05:44 <+luke-jr> Stewie-arma: your screen is a different size
05:44 <Stewie-arma> luke-jr: what was your's set to?
05:44 <+luke-jr> or, more likely, a different DPI
05:45 <+luke-jr> 142x133 dpi
05:45 <Stewie-arma> aww
05:45 <+Khalsa> is "epic" a noun?
05:46 <Stewie-arma> it can be
05:46 <+GodTodd> depends on context
05:46 <+Khalsa> There's drama, excitement, love, loyalty, honor, and all the other stuff that makes an epic.
05:46 <+GodTodd> that's a noun
05:47 <+GodTodd> luke-jr's BO is epic <--- that's when it's an adjective
05:47 <+GodTodd> :)
05:47 <+Khalsa> oohhh
05:47 <Stewie-arma> anything can be anything, I mean I've seen someone use 5 is using proper grammar
05:47 <+Khalsa> stupid enlish
05:47 <+luke-jr> bs
05:47 <+Khalsa> english*
05:47 <Stewie-arma> everyone knows what is is is is is
05:47 <+GodTodd> ok...luke-jr's BS is epic
05:47 <+GodTodd> better, luke-jr?
05:48 <+GodTodd> :)
05:48 <+luke-jr> yeah
05:48 <+luke-jr> I have the best brown sugar
05:48 <+Lucifer_arma> wtf?
05:48 <+GodTodd> and the worst bullshit :)
05:48 <+luke-jr> I don't have a bull, idiot
05:48 <+luke-jr> :)
05:48 <+GodTodd> just the head of one?
05:48 <+GodTodd> :)
05:48 <Stewie-arma> then why do you have it's shit?
05:48 <Stewie-arma> did you steal it?
05:49 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o Lucifer_arma] by ChanServ
05:49 <Stewie-arma> luke-jr why are you stealing a bull's shit?
05:49 <Stewie-arma> I'm guessing people are going to get /devoice ed?
05:49 <+Khalsa> How much is the fee fow afl?
05:49 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v armabot] by Lucifer_arma
05:49 <+Khalsa> for*
05:49 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v armabot] by Lucifer_arma
05:49 <Stewie-arma> nothing this time
05:49 <+GodTodd> $500
05:49 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v BedMan] by Lucifer_arma
05:49 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v duudii] by Lucifer_arma
05:50 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v GodTodd] by Lucifer_arma
05:50 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v guru3] by Lucifer_arma
05:50 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v hoop_tron] by Lucifer_arma
05:50 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o Stewie-arma] by ChanServ
05:50 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o luke-jr] by ChanServ
05:50 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v Jovan10] by Lucifer_arma
05:50 <GodTodd> small bills and sent directly to me
05:50 <+Khalsa> how much last time?
05:50 <@Stewie-arma> weishenme?
05:50 <GodTodd> :)
05:50 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v Khalsa] by Lucifer_arma
05:50 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v mkzelda] by luke-jr
05:50 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v noob13] by luke-jr
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05:50 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v luke-jr] by Lucifer_arma
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05:50 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v mkzelda] by Lucifer_arma
05:50 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v spidey] by luke-jr
05:50 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v noob13] by Lucifer_arma
05:50 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v Stewie-arma] by luke-jr
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05:50 <Khalsa> you can do more than one per line >_>
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05:51 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v Vanhayes_] by Lucifer_arma
05:51 -!- mode/#armagetron [-oo Lucifer_arma Stewie-arma] by luke-jr
05:51 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o luke-jr] by luke-jr
05:51 <Stewie-arma> well that was fun
05:51 <Stewie-arma> lol
05:51 <luke-jr> Khalsa: Konversation does them one at a time
05:51 <luke-jr> I just selected everyone and clicked
05:51 <Khalsa> oh lame
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> this is going to take forever
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> hey you guys can stop
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> my client's doing it automatically
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> it's just taking forever
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> there, normalcy is restored, except now I'm getting a bunch of notices "you need to be a channel op to do that"
05:51 <Khalsa> irssi ftw
05:52 <Stewie-arma> lol
05:52 <Stewie-arma> that stinks
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> told you my client was doing it automatically, though I appreciate the help :)
05:52 <Stewie-arma> aww I didn't know about the right clicking stuff
05:52 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: actually, your chats didn't come through until after
05:53 <Stewie-arma> lol
05:53 <Stewie-arma> --- #armagetron :You need to be a channel operator to do that
05:53 <Stewie-arma> yay
05:59 <Stewie-arma> blech
05:59 <Stewie-arma> quick /auto Stewie-arma
05:59 <Stewie-arma> lol
06:00 <Stewie-arma> hmmm
06:00 <Stewie-arma> that's nifty
06:03 <Stewie-arma> btw why is there no /mdevoice ?
06:34 <Khalsa> -v?
06:52 <Vanhayes_> #night
06:52 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes_!
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07:07 <Stewie-arma> spidey got wasted again?
07:07 <Stewie-arma> I can tell causse the server is 999ing again
07:09 <GodTodd> last i knew he had had like 1/4 gallon of vodka...was even drinking it in tea :)
07:14 <Stewie-arma> crud
07:14 <Stewie-arma> nvm it's just my isp being a biatch
07:16 <Stewie-arma> blech
07:16 <Stewie-arma> aww my interwebs is back
07:17 <Stewie-arma> but he was talking after that
07:17 <Stewie-arma> ...
07:18 <Stewie-arma> might have finished the 1/4 gallon
07:23 <Stewie-arma> oh crapping out again
07:23 <Stewie-arma> Todd you any good at math?
07:24 <Stewie-arma> grrr
07:28 <GodTodd> depends on the math, i suppose
07:28 <Stewie-arma> pre-cal?
07:28 <GodTodd> what's the question?
07:29 <Stewie-arma> There are two circles that go through (9,2). Each one is tangent to both coordinate axes. Find the center and the radius for each circle.
07:31 <Stewie-arma> the only question I haven't been able to solve so far
07:40 <Khalsa> so plug in your known values into the equation of a circle
07:41 <Khalsa> complete the square, and you have your circle
07:41 <Khalsa> you will automatically know the center and radius from the equation
07:42 <Khalsa> just need to do it twice, once for each circle
07:44 <GodTodd> bah...and here i was beating myself over the head trying to remember formulas...i never remember to complete the square :/
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> heh
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> we did a million of those problems back in calc 3 :/
07:49 <Stewie-arma> arg I forgot about the equation of a circle
07:49 <Stewie-arma> silly me
07:49 <Stewie-arma> wait a second
07:49 <Stewie-arma> I don't have the answer...
07:49 <Stewie-arma> I have 3 variables
07:49 <Stewie-arma> h k and r
07:50 <Stewie-arma> ...
07:50 <Khalsa> how not
07:50 <Khalsa> you have the coordinates for two points on each circle
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> yep
07:50 <Stewie-arma> since when?
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> you plug those in as x and y and solve for the rest
07:50 <Khalsa> use the expanded equation of a circle to plug in your numbers
07:50 <Khalsa> and then solve
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> both circles go through the point 9,2 at least
07:51 <Stewie-arma> x and y are the center coordinates are they not?
07:51 <Khalsa> and you know the x or y value (o) of each one
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> no, h,k are
07:51 <Stewie-arma> grrr
07:51 <Stewie-arma> oh yeah
07:51 <Stewie-arma> but I still ned c
07:51 <Stewie-arma> or r
07:51 <Stewie-arma> depending on which one you are using
07:52 <Lucifer_arma> (x-h)^2 + (y-k)^2 = r^2
07:52  * Lucifer_arma just looking at the formula
07:52 <Stewie-arma> yeah that one
07:52 <Stewie-arma> lol
07:52 <Stewie-arma> or x^2 + y^2 + a x + b y = c
07:53 <Stewie-arma> how would I solve for three variables?
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> well, you need 3 equations to solve for three variables :)
07:54 <Khalsa> plug the equation for x into the equation for y as a variable, everything will cancel out and you will have your y (or w/e var), then use that y in your x equation, then use your x and y to solve for r
07:55 <Khalsa> no, we wont do it for you >_> you need to learn it!
07:55 <Stewie-arma> Khalsa, you need the r to do either of those
07:55 <Stewie-arma> other wise it will = 0
07:55 <Stewie-arma> well
07:55 <Stewie-arma> it will be some number = o
07:55 <Stewie-arma> 0
07:56 <Stewie-arma> will the r not cancel out the other r?
07:56 <Lucifer_arma> do it and see what happens
07:56 <Khalsa> try again monkey!
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> that's the point of all these exercises, not for you to do it and get the right answer, but to do it and see what happens
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> when you get the right answer, and you see what happens, you learn
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> but if you get the right answer without seeing what happens, you don't learn
07:57 <Stewie-arma> yeah my problem is that I try to see what happens before actually doing stuff lol
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> it's not unusual to find yourself working the same problem 3-4 times or more until you get it :)
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> that's good, and you need to do that, but don't let it stop you from actually doing stuff
07:58 <tramshed> this work for anyone?
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> you want to develop an ability to look at a problem and see all of its steps in your mind before you work it
07:58 <tramshed> http://im.catapultingfeces.com/irc/cybercuntz.html
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> how can you do that if you don't try to see its steps before working it?
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> but you still have to work it :)
07:59 <Lucifer_arma> working for me, tramshed (hi there!)
07:59 <tramshed> right on, thanks
07:59 <tramshed> and harhar
08:01 <Stewie-arma> actually luci I only need 2 equations (after I have the initial one)
08:01 <Stewie-arma> nvm
08:01 <Stewie-arma> lol
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> ?  if you have three unknowns, you must have 3 equations...
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> we've got problems in statics right now where you have 4 unknowns, and the vector equations only give you 3
08:02 <Stewie-arma> say wha?
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> so you have to find a fourth equation that relates two variables somehow
08:02 <Stewie-arma> lol
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> well, see, you said you know about vectors :)
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> when you have forces acting, and there's no acceleration, you can add all the forces together and set them equal to 0
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> since the vectors are three dimensional, you get three equations, one for each component, all set = 0
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> that's basically what the whole class is about, too.  So I'll be doing this the whole semester :)
08:04 <Stewie-arma> lol
08:05 <Stewie-arma> k=r-(9-(r-(2-k)-9))-2  I think I did something wrong...
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> you've got k on both sides
08:05 <Stewie-arma> exactly
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> that's a sure sign you've screwed up :)
08:06 <Lucifer_arma> assuming that's supposed to give an expression for k, that is.  If it's the first step after a substitution, you might be fine
08:06 <Lucifer_arma> (no, I haven't bothered writing it all out myself)
08:06 <Stewie-arma> it was the first step after a substitution
08:07 <Lucifer_arma> that's going to wind up 0=0
08:07 <Stewie-arma> exactly
08:08 <Stewie-arma> although it could be my h=r-(2-k)-9 that could be wrong
08:09 <Stewie-arma> substituting for r would probably get a better answer
08:10 <Stewie-arma> actually no
08:10 <Stewie-arma> mlol
08:10 <Stewie-arma> cause then I would still be left with k a 0=0
08:10 <Stewie-arma> hmmm...
08:11 <Stewie-arma> I've gone cookoo
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> eek
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> wxMaxima just gave me a really wild answer set
08:12 <Stewie-arma> somehow I think I'm missing something
08:12 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
08:12 <Lucifer_arma> use the distance formula to find the center :)
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> the center must be the same distance from P(9,2), as well as some point x=0 and some other point y=0
08:14 <Stewie-arma> luckily there is only one x=0 and y=0 point for each
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> 9^2 + (2-y)^2 = d^2
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> that's for x=0
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> (9-y)^2 + (2)^2 = d^2
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> for y = 0
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> the d could be changed to r
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> oops
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> (9-x)^2 + (2)^2 = d^2
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> 9^2 + (2-y)^2 = d^2
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> 9^2 + (2-y)^2 = r^2
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> (9-x)^2 + (2)^2 = r^2
08:17 <Lucifer_arma> don't know if that helps
08:17 <Stewie-arma> it does actually
08:17 <Stewie-arma> or hopefully it does
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> (9-x)^2 + (2)^2 = 9^2 + (2-y)^2
08:18 <Stewie-arma> yes thank you
08:19 <Stewie-arma> wait a secnod
08:19 <Stewie-arma> second
08:20 <Lucifer_arma> x and y can be changed to h and k, since the point the equation represents is the point that satisfies the requirement of the circle's center
08:21 <Lucifer_arma> but then this equation is probably buried somewhere in the circle formulas :(
08:21  * Lucifer_arma is still sick!
08:22 <Stewie-arma> lol y-4=x
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08:24 <MrBougo> hello
08:24 <Stewie-arma> hi
08:24 <MrBougo> heh
08:24 <MrBougo> i was excpecting no anwser
08:24 <Stewie-arma> orly?
08:25 <MrBougo> yup
08:25 <Stewie-arma> well I'm stuck here asking luci for help on math lol
08:25 <MrBougo> :p
08:25 <MrBougo> what kind of math
08:25 <Stewie-arma> pre-cal
08:25 <Stewie-arma> you any good at it?
08:26 <Stewie-arma> I'll write the question in equation form lol
08:26 <Stewie-arma> (9-h)^2+(2-k)^2=r^2
08:26 <Stewie-arma> need to get h k and r
08:27 <MrBougo> to insulate them
08:27 <MrBougo> wait
08:27 <MrBougo> is it correct in english
08:27 <Stewie-arma> need to get what number they represent
08:27 <MrBougo> here we say "isoler"
08:28 <MrBougo> yea
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> isolate
08:28 <MrBougo> r is kind of easy, isnt it?
08:28 <Stewie-arma> not really
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> derived from the french, obviously :)
08:28 <MrBougo> wee
08:28 <Stewie-arma> lol
08:28 <MrBougo> yup Lucifer_arma, but theres isolate and insulate
08:28 <MrBougo> :p
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> although why we'd admit such barbaric words into our language is quite beyond me
08:28 <MrBougo> heh
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> insuler != isoler
08:29 <MrBougo> insuler doesnt exist in french afaik
08:29 <luke-jr> I think that's his point
08:29 <MrBougo> or maybe in old french
08:29 <MrBougo> so you cant put a square root on everything, Stewie-arma ?
08:29 <MrBougo> :p
08:29 <Stewie-arma> blech I forgotten about completing the square for r
08:29 <Stewie-arma> oh wait
08:30 <Stewie-arma> no MrBougo cause then you're still left with 3 variables
08:30 <MrBougo> wait... with one expression you need to calculate all the values?
08:30 <Stewie-arma> yeah
08:31 <MrBougo> urhmerm
08:31 <Stewie-arma> oh I forgot
08:31 <MrBougo> maybe its something about the domains then
08:31 <Lucifer_arma> [00:29] <Stewie-arma> There are two circles that go through (9,2). Each one is tangent to both coordinate axes. Find the center and the radius for each circle.
08:31 <Stewie-arma> that one
08:31 <MrBougo> oh ok
08:31 <Stewie-arma> that was the equation for the first part
08:31 <Stewie-arma> hehe
08:31 <MrBougo> sounds crazy
08:32 <MrBougo> heh, if they're tangent to both axes and not the same
08:32 <MrBougo> the 2nd one is huge
08:33 <Stewie-arma> the thing that throws me off how can  they be tangent to both axes if the point is so close to the x axis
08:33 <MrBougo> heh
08:33 <MrBougo> it's possible
08:33 <Stewie-arma> it would seem like they would have to be the same circle
08:33 <MrBougo> nah
08:33 <Lucifer_arma> there's one with a center whose x value is less than 9, and one whose x value is greater than 9
08:33 <MrBougo> just imagine
08:33 <Stewie-arma> or just slightly off
08:33 <MrBougo> wait im doing some stuff in paint
08:33 <MrBougo> yea thats it
08:34 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, the center has to be on the line y=x
08:34 <Lucifer_arma> doesn't it?  for it to be the same distance from the two axes?
08:35 <Lucifer_arma> which means h=k
08:36 <MrBougo> heh, paint did a perfect job for this
08:36 <MrBougo> http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/7146/tangentgg3.png
08:36 <Stewie-arma> lucifer you may have just cracked this case
08:36 <Stewie-arma> lol
08:37 <MrBougo> easy to draw circles tangent to horizontal and vertical lines with paint :p
08:37 <Lucifer_arma> lemme guess, it has a function for that?
08:37 <Lucifer_arma> autocad does :)
08:37 <MrBougo> it doesnt
08:38 <MrBougo> you just draw the rectangle
08:38 <MrBougo> and the incircle is drawn
08:38 <MrBougo> :)
08:39 <Stewie-arma> if only 0,0 was in the circles -.-
08:39 <Stewie-arma> would make this so much easier
08:39 <MrBougo> for such schemas some geometry software would be perfect
08:39 <MrBougo> like kig
08:39 <MrBougo> hehe Stewie-arma
08:41 <Stewie-arma> lol I'll just make it look like I answered it
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09:36 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/09/16/europe/space.php
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14:12 <spidey>  um
14:12 <spidey> i think i puked my lungs up last night
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15:26 <Ady> #find subzero
15:26 <Ady> #lastseen subzero
15:27 <armabot> Ady: timed out
15:27 <Ady> #ping
15:27 <armabot> pong
15:27 <Ady> #lastseen bze
15:27 <armabot> Ady: ¦Ö¦$ubzero has last been seen on ¦/xddddffx¦/x9999ff clan sumo server 16 hours 19 minutes ago.
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16:51 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, you busy?
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17:49 <epsy> #tea
17:49 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (9/32): -{GP}- Gonzap, Bip, ikono, rugkei, Tr3zz, ~*SP*~viper~, ~{GP}~Gabor, ~|DS|~ mescalin, ~|DS|~sunny
17:56 <spidey> wow
17:56 <spidey> python's so picky about how you indent it
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18:29 <spidey> success!
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19:02 <epsy> wrtlprnft, your server is laggying
19:02 <epsy> -.-
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19:35 <MrBougo> wee, im gonna have a dell notebook in 4 weeks
19:47 <epsy> you mean you just got fucked
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20:07 <MrBougo> epsy: ?
20:07 <MrBougo> why did i get fucked :/
20:08 <epsy> dell cheats you
20:08 <MrBougo> how
20:08 <epsy> their comp mostly ... sucks
20:08 <epsy> :/
20:10 <MrBougo> :/
20:10 <MrBougo> took a laptop with
20:10 <MrBougo> a core 2 duo @ 1.8 GhZ
20:10 <MrBougo> GHz*
20:10 <MrBougo> enough for me
20:10 <MrBougo> 2048 ram
20:10 <MrBougo> a nvidia with 256 cache
20:11 <MrBougo> thats way enough for me
20:11 <epsy> how many does this cost ?
20:11 <MrBougo> um
20:11 <MrBougo> 1300€
20:12 <MrBougo> about that
20:12 <MrBougo> with a belkin modem router
20:12 <epsy> O_o
20:12 <MrBougo> heh, i bought a router with it
20:12 <epsy> you need a modem on a laptop ? O_o
20:12 <MrBougo> ...
20:12 <epsy> a wifi router ok but a cable router is a litle confuse to me
20:12 <MrBougo> i need a wifi modem
20:12 <MrBougo> wifi modem router
20:12 <MrBougo> it does both
20:13 <epsy> 1300€ is still a bit expensive i must say
20:13 <MrBougo> -70€ from the router
20:13 <epsy> you can find good laptops under 1000€
20:13 <epsy> (and it's not without screen lol)
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20:14 <Bougo> i hate my isp
20:14 <Bougo> -70€ from the router
20:14 <Bougo> and it has vista, epsy
20:14 <Bougo> i hate vista
20:14 <epsy> don't worry, your ISP does it too
20:15 <epsy> then you got even more fucked
20:15 <Bougo> the ubuntu series dont have 17" screens
20:15 <Bougo> yea thats it
20:15 <epsy> lmao
20:15 <Bougo> the screen
20:15 <Bougo> 15" are way cheaper
20:15 <Bougo> like -200 or -300 €
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20:15 <MrBougo> i have a numeric keypad! \o/
20:16 <epsy> well, look at lenovo next time
20:16 <MrBougo> thanks to the space left by the 17" screen
20:16 <epsy> lol
20:16 <epsy> « left » lol!
20:16 <MrBougo> nah its on the right side
20:16 <MrBougo> :p
20:17 <epsy> i mean « space left by the bigger screen»
20:17 <MrBougo> oh no
20:17 <MrBougo> thats not what i mant
20:17 <MrBougo> meant
20:17 <MrBougo> the keypad isnt next to the screen :p
20:17 <epsy> i see what you mean
20:17 <epsy> but it's funny how you said it
20:17 <MrBougo> :p
20:18 <MrBougo> i wonder how to say that
20:18 <MrBougo> the screen is bigger so theres more place on the keyboard side
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20:20 <epsy> boo! i understood you lol
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20:37 <epsy> #cyborg
20:37 <armabot> epsy: E.P.S.Y.: Electronic Person Skilled in Yelling
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20:39 <epsy> ups
20:39 <epsy> [ x ] button :p
20:39 <MrBougo> hha
20:39 <MrBougo> skillled in yelling
20:40 <MrBougo> #cyborg button
20:40 <armabot> MrBougo: B.U.T.T.O.N.: Biomechanical Unit Trained for Troubleshooting and Online Nullification
20:40 <MrBougo> #cyborg armagetron
20:40 <armabot> MrBougo: A.R.M.A.G.E.T.R.O.N.: Artificial Robotic Machine Assembled for Galactic Exploration, Thorough Repair and Online Nullification
20:40 <MrBougo> #cyborg onononon
20:40 <armabot> MrBougo: O.N.O.N.O.N.O.N.: Operational Neohuman Optimized for Nullification, Online Negotiation and Omnipresent Nanotechnology
20:40 <MrBougo> #cyborg belgacom
20:41 <MrBougo> my ISP
20:41 <armabot> MrBougo: B.E.L.G.A.C.O.M.: Biomechanical Electronic Lifeform Generated for Assassination, Calculation and Online Mathematics
20:41 <MrBougo> yea, assassination
20:42 <epsy> j'avais pas d'idée pour msn :p
20:42 <luke-jr> #cyborg msnsucks
20:43 <armabot> luke-jr: M.S.N.S.U.C.K.S.: Mechanical Synthetic Neohuman Skilled in Ultimate Calculation and Kamikaze Sabotage
20:43 <MrBougo> #cyborg msn
20:43 <MrBougo> #cyborg wlm
20:43 <armabot> MrBougo: M.S.N.: Mechanical Synthetic Neohuman
20:43 <armabot> MrBougo: W.L.M.: Wireless Lifelike Machine
20:43 <epsy> #luke-jr_work MSN
20:43 <armabot> ♪ MSN is obsolete. ♫
20:43 <epsy> :p
20:43 <MrBougo> rofl
20:43 <MrBougo> roflmao
20:43 <luke-jr> #luke-jr_work MSN
20:43 <armabot> ♪ MSN is obsolete. ♫
20:43 <MrBougo> #luke-jr_work Epsy
20:43 <armabot> ♪ Epsy is obsolete. ♫
20:43 <MrBougo> haha i love it
20:43 <MrBougo> who mad the alias?
20:43 <epsy> yes, it now spells with no cap letter
20:43 <epsy> me probably
20:44 <MrBougo> #alias list
20:44 <MrBougo> err
20:44 <MrBougo> #list alias
20:44 <armabot> MrBougo: monologue, roulette, 42, \\\:o, add, afl, armabot, armaconfig, armaservers, armasettings, babel, ball, bigbrother, bounce, bug, bye, cat, cfg, chatlog, check, cinf, cink, crazylate, ctwf, dance, date, davestupidwebsite"rss, ddl, delire, die, die, digg, digitx, ding, disclaimer, do, dog, dong, eliza, eroulette, f, fastfood, finc, fink, fofo, fortune, g, gcalc, gfight, go, goodbye, hd, hell, (2 more messages)
20:44 <epsy> -.-
20:44 <MrBougo> #\\\:o
20:44 <MrBougo> #\\\:o
20:44 <MrBougo> ???
20:44 <MrBougo> #help \\\:o
20:44 <armabot> MrBougo: (\\\:o <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "".
20:44 <MrBougo> sucka
20:45 <MrBougo> omg!
20:45 <MrBougo> #help null
20:45 <armabot> MrBougo: (null <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo  ".
20:45 <MrBougo> k
20:45 <MrBougo> #disclaimer
20:45 <armabot> anti-online predator disclaimer: any sexual advances made by me upon anyone in this channel is to be considered a joke and not at all serious unless you are 18 years of age or older, female and hot.
20:45 <MrBougo> #hd
20:45 <MrBougo> bye
20:46 <MrBougo> #help hd
20:46 <armabot> MrBougo: Error: There is no command "hd".
20:46 <MrBougo> #hd
20:46 <armabot> .c  F   D  E B D   C    C
20:46 <MrBougo> #help  hd
20:46 <MrBougo> #help hd
20:46 <armabot> MrBougo: (hd <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo .c  F   D  E B D   C    C".
20:46 <armabot> MrBougo: (hd <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo .c  F   D  E B D   C    C".
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20:50 <epsy> #sd
20:50 <armabot> epsy: Usage: #serverdetails [-v] {name}
20:50 <epsy> #hd
20:50 <epsy> bah
20:50 <noob7> ?
20:56 <noob7> #sd wildcat
20:56 <armabot> noob7: WILDCAT: Players (6/8): #~crosses~#, Death Reborn, death reborn 2, Garo, Pasteque, Riga
20:56 <epsy> 600 ping
20:56 <epsy> argh
20:56 <epsy> #tea
20:56 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (4/32): De Graal, Kriki, SL°???, ~{GP}~G
20:57 <epsy> let's try
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21:13 <G5_Ger> #lastseen epsy
21:13 <Lucifer_arma> #xD
21:13 <armabot> G5_Ger: epsy|T| has last been seen on ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Fortress {100MBit} 2 minutes ago.
21:13 <armabot> <Lucifer_arma> then half your team gets killed in a terrorist attack initiated by the other half of your team
21:14 <epsy> O_o
21:28 <epsy> err
21:28 <epsy> where can i get these little freenode java appelets ?
21:30 <G5_Ger> #lastseen sunny
21:30 <armabot> G5_Ger: ~|DS|~sunny seems to be on ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Fortress {100MBit} right now.
21:30 <G5_Ger> #cafe
21:32 <epsy> the DS fort squad has it's own team :p
21:50 <Lucifer_arma> cool, I have 3 tests this week, yay!
21:50 <epsy> Excellent.
21:57 <epsy> #tea
21:57 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (3/32): -WhiteWeb-, shafferj, ~{GP}~E=Mc²	Spa
21:57 <epsy> #onlineplayers
21:57 <armabot> epsy: This data is 37 seconds old; !!!!!!!!, (SK) THE ONE, -:R:- TropiK, -=}ID< JDawg, -=}ID< QUARG, -WhiteWeb-, -]0a|Arashi, -]0a|d31dar4, -]0a|Fabi, -]0a|tobi, -]0a|zetzu, .:] flåshy, .dBb|Pro, .dbd|Fireman, 911, <<jasmine>>, <<lonestar>>, =-axe-=, >3D> Hellion, ?, Andrey, Anth, anti christ, Asticot, black nigth, BlindMan's Dog, brschmogul, charlie, cHiLLen, CTxTadd, Dez, el, emphasis, Escape, Exp, (2 more messages)
21:57 <epsy> #more
21:57 <armabot> epsy: fingerbib, Gerto, Greta Garbo, Held, Hippie, ILiquidC nSnAiL, Indpdt Hunter, Infendo, ivr, jevaitetue bou, JS, L2K| Scorpion, lejatorn, LOL, mr noob, Mr.Weed, NightWalker, nolimits, noob242, one/arm\bandit, Oops, Paladin, Plastik, Player 2, Player 3, Player1, pod, Prof.Dr.Mr.D**M, Psychologist, quailman, Redrum, Ruben_GER, schwuli, shafferj, Solar, Solinux, StaX, SyntheX, toan, Tommy&Annika, (1 more message)
21:57 <epsy> #more
21:57 <armabot> epsy: TPRAP!D, tPsPeEd, Unleashed, Vader, VibesOfEcstasy, white danger, will, [DR]a55a551|\|, `-´Ehj.POPOL, {CK} chipps XL, {CN}Ardez, {USA}Carnage, |*.*|, |SPZ|Mixnetwork, ~Church~, ~j4f~p4nic, ~TPFear, ~YY~ bloodyfang, ~YY~boss, ~{GP}~E=Mc²Spa, ~|DS|~ Phantom, ~|DS|~Slash rox, ~|DS|~sunny, ~|DS|~|CruZ|~, ~|DS|~|dvDosc|, ~|DS|~|GonZ|~, ¦Ã¦FoFo, ¦Ã¦Elex, ¦ÃÂ¥Rico, °goMo°erEctuS°
21:57 <epsy> this is fucked
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23:24 <G5_Ger> #tea
23:24 <armabot> G5_Ger: Fortress Café: No online players.
23:24 <G5_Ger> f*ck
23:47 <G5_Ger> #tea
23:47 <armabot> G5_Ger: Fortress Café: No online players.
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23:52 <MaZuffeR> #lastseen madmax
23:52 <armabot> MaZuffeR: timed out
23:55 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, ping

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02:12 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
02:12 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 43°F / 6°C | Humidity: 76% | Pressure: 30.44in / 1031hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 2mph / 4km/h | Updated: 9:00 PM ADT; Tonight - Clear. Fog patches developing overnight. Low 2C(36F) except 7C(45F) along the coast. Patchy frost.; Tuesday - Sunny. Fog patches dissipating in the morning. High 19C(66F). UV index 5 or moderate. Tuesday night clear. (1 more message)
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02:28 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: pong, maybe
02:29 <spidey> nvm i got it :)
02:29 <spidey> i changed ARMAGETRON_PATH to BIN_PATH and it was giving me "permission denied" because i forgot to change it in the configs to
02:29 <spidey> anyways, i got it 100% working with tremulous now too :D
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03:33 <Stewie-arma> woot I'm going to Ireland and UK over spring break!
03:33 <spidey> pft
03:33 <spidey> ireland sucks :D
03:33 <Stewie-arma> shut it
03:33 <spidey> all it does
03:33 <spidey> is rain
03:34 <Lucifer_arma> whooppeee, you're going to go see more stuck up white people, yay!
03:34 <Lucifer_arma> you'll fit right in, don't worry
03:34 <spidey> haha
03:34 <spidey> hahahaha
03:34 <Stewie-arma> I love white people!
03:34 <Stewie-arma> lol
03:34 <spidey> Lucifer_arma,
03:34 <Lucifer_arma> spidey:
03:34 <Lucifer_arma> spidey:
03:34 <Lucifer_arma> spidey:
03:34 <Lucifer_arma> spidey:
03:34 <Lucifer_arma> spidey:
03:34 <Lucifer_arma> spidey:
03:34 <Lucifer_arma> spidey:
03:34 <Lucifer_arma> spidey:
03:34 <Lucifer_arma> spidey:
03:34 <spidey> care to help me with armastart? :D
03:34 <spidey> well, sorta
03:35 <Lucifer_arma> maybe, but I remind you it's been awhile since I looked at it, and I'm sick
03:35 <Lucifer_arma> and now, you don't know this, but I have a harsh congestion headache
03:35 <Lucifer_arma> I took some pseudoephedrine, but it hasn't hit yet and may not (I seem to be immune to that drug)
03:35 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, stop looking at Stewie-arma then
03:36 <Lucifer_arma> I'm considering going out and buying a pack of menthol cigarettes
03:36 <spidey> ew
03:36 <spidey> menthol are good when you're drunk/smoking pot
03:36 <spidey> but i dun like them without having one of the 2
03:36 <Lucifer_arma> *a* pack, not a carton, not "hey lookit me, I love idiot cigarettes!"
03:37 <Lucifer_arma> nah, menthol are never good, but sometimes they can clear you up when you're congested
03:37 <spidey> heh
03:37 <spidey> i puked my lungs up last night
03:37 <spidey> i was soooo drunk
03:37 <Lucifer_arma> um, you don't puke from your lungs
03:38 <spidey> no, but they came up, along with the spegethi
03:38 <Lucifer_arma> spegethi?  That some African dish?
03:38 <spidey> spaghetti*
03:39 <spidey> i broke the end of my big toe nail off
03:39 <Lucifer_arma> but see, to puke up your lungs, you first have to swallow them
03:39 <Lucifer_arma> when you puked?
03:39 <Lucifer_arma> that must have been some puking
03:39 <spidey> uncle said i beat the fuck out of my brother
03:39 <Lucifer_arma> he probably deserved it
03:39 <spidey> indeed
03:39 <spidey> i was chasing the vodka with beer >.>
03:40 <spidey> *keep in mind i drink like once a year*
03:40 <Lucifer_arma> oooo, don't mix the drinks like that
03:40 <Lucifer_arma> also, try to eat some burritoes or eggrolls early, before you get wasted
03:40 <Lucifer_arma> that'll prevent you from puking
03:40 <spidey> heh
03:41 <spidey> i couldn't help it
03:41 <spidey> all we had besides beer was water
03:41 <Lucifer_arma> eat again before going to bed, and drink like a quart or so of water (iced tea works too)
03:41 <spidey> and i figured that would be kinda nasty
03:41 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, water sucks as a chaser
03:41 <Lucifer_arma> milk rules, though
03:41 <Lucifer_arma> especially with the spicy liquors
03:41 <spidey> heh
03:42 <spidey> i dunno why, everytime i drink vodka
03:42 <spidey> i get soo fucked up
03:42 <spidey> i drink gin, i'm fine no matter how much i drink
03:42 <Lucifer_arma> and then a good breakfast with some eggs and potatoes (or 3-4 slices of toast) and lots of water and your hangover will be gone before noon
03:42 <spidey> i didn't have a hang over =/
03:42 <spidey> i've never had a hang over
03:42 <Lucifer_arma> or in other words, your hangover will be gone somewhere around wake-up-time + breakfast time + 4 hours
03:42 <Lucifer_arma> you're young, I didn't have hangovers when I was that young either
03:42 <Lucifer_arma> the puking also helps prevent the hangover, believe it or not
03:43 <Lucifer_arma> but the point is to not puke :)
03:43 <spidey> lol
03:43 <spidey> i don't like drinking -.-
03:43 <Lucifer_arma> but it is best to establish the non-hangover habits now
03:43 <Lucifer_arma> if you're going to drink every now and then
03:43 <spidey> when i get really drunk, it's like a black hole
03:43 <spidey> i can't remember a fucking thing the next morning!
03:43 <Lucifer_arma> I drink and get drunk like 2-3 times a year, and I still do the anti-hangover measures
03:44 <Lucifer_arma> of course, I do my drinking on big eating holidays, so there's plenty of food
03:44 <Lucifer_arma> I'll drink a six pack while I'm cooking the turkey on thanksgiving and christmas :)
03:44 <Lucifer_arma> then eat and pass out, it's wonderful
03:44 <spidey> from a 6 pack? o.o
03:44 <Lucifer_arma> (I don't drink enough to have a tolerance that requires more than a six pack)
03:44 <spidey> i can drink beer all day
03:44 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, well, don't forget I'm old
03:45 <spidey> but liquor goes through me
03:45 <Lucifer_arma> I did drink a whole case one night and not get drunk
03:45 <Lucifer_arma> most frustrating night of my life
03:45 <spidey> haha
03:45 <Lucifer_arma> I went to the convenience store where this girl started hitting on me, and she was hot, man, hot!
03:45 <Lucifer_arma> then she tells the girl behind the counter she's 16
03:45 <Lucifer_arma> so I quit talking to her and paid for the beer
03:45 <Lucifer_arma> then my neighbors were doing lines of coke, and one of them made a serious pass at me
03:46 <Lucifer_arma> but I didn't want to fuck a married chick, so I had to pass
03:46 <spidey> rofl
03:46 <Lucifer_arma> in the meantime, I had already drank a six pack and didn't have a buzz yet
03:46 <Lucifer_arma> by the time the morning came, I was thoroughly disgusted with the whole thing
03:46 <Lucifer_arma> I didn't drink for 3 days after that
03:47 <spidey> heh
03:47 <Lucifer_arma> the girl came and apologized and complimented me for not taking advantage of her, though.  That was nice
03:47 <spidey> yea
03:49 <spidey> oh yea
03:49 <spidey> the armastart thing
03:49 <spidey> the way i'm doing it now is if TREMULOUS 1 or ARMAGETRON 1 is in the config file, it uses the options for those servers, i'd like to make it a option, like -a for armagetron and -t for tremulous
03:49 <spidey> but i'm not exactly sure where to start with that :S
03:53 <spidey> i didn't realize before
03:53 <spidey> but python's a bitch about indents
03:53 <spidey> =/
04:01 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-6929257,00.html
04:01 <Lucifer_arma> yes, python requires indents for code blocks
04:01 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, lemme open up armastart
04:01 <Lucifer_arma> you did commit your recent changes, right?
04:02 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: config options are handled in the top-level armastart script
04:03 <tramshed> man
04:03 <tramshed> im spray feces everywhere
04:03 <Lucifer_arma> you'll want to copy line 53 and change stuff appropriately
04:03 <tramshed> spraying
04:03 <tramshed> my digestive system is toast
04:03 <Lucifer_arma> tramshed: then stay where you're at
04:03 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: the actual parsing is done by this line:
04:03 <Lucifer_arma> configOptions = config.ParseConfig(options.configfile)
04:03 <Lucifer_arma> configOptions then holds all the options found
04:04 <Lucifer_arma> so then the config file is read
04:04 <Lucifer_arma> wait, a lied
04:05 <Lucifer_arma> the commandline options are parsed here:
04:05 <Lucifer_arma> (options, args) = parser.parse_args()
04:05 <Lucifer_arma> the other line I quoted is parsing of the config file
04:06 <Lucifer_arma> so, then you want to add, after the config file is parsed, check the "options" object to see if someone specified armagetron or tremulous and override the config option from the config file
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04:14 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2007/09/17/simpson-robbery.html
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04:21 <ct|kyle> that is only a few days old
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05:18 <spidey> no luci
05:18 <spidey> i haven't
05:18 <spidey> i only changed 2 files
05:18 <spidey> config.py and armastart
05:18 <spidey> sec
05:19 <spidey> http://pastebin.ca/701485 <--armastart
05:20 <spidey> http://pastebin.ca/701486 <--config.py
05:21 <spidey> now
05:21 <spidey> what i want to do is make ARMAGETRON and TREMULOUS
05:21 <spidey> switches
05:22 <Khalsa> !tron
05:22 <Khalsa> whoops, wrong channel
05:22 <spidey> !Khalsa
05:23 <Khalsa> sorry
05:23 <spidey> ;p
05:23 <Khalsa> ircbots are the win
05:23 <spidey> lol
05:28 <spidey> anyways, Lucifer_arma yea this wrapper will work with anything that uses tty
05:28 <spidey> (and "should" have a working pipe)
05:28 <spidey> the .pipe works with trem ,though
05:29 <spidey> since trem logs update in real time, i'ma make some bash scripts for it  :D
05:30 <spidey> you could even add something like armabot to it with the wrapper :D
05:34 <spidey> #version
05:34 <armabot> spidey: The current (running) version of this Supybot is 0.83.1+darcs.  The newest version available online is 0.83.2.
05:36 <ToddKitchen> hrmm...this could be bad...
05:38 <ToddKitchen> anyone know how to fix a GDM login error thingy?
05:51 <ToddKitchen> nvm
05:51 <ToddKitchen> i need a bigger HDD
05:51 <ToddKitchen> :/
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06:02 <GodTodd> grrrr
06:24 <spidey> anyone here good with bash? :)
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07:26 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: it is my intention to turn armastart into a general purpose service manager :)
07:27 <MrBougo> hiho
07:27 <MrBougo> armastart?
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> yes, armastart
07:27 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, if you don't mind the way i'm doing it
07:27 <spidey> it shouldn't be to hard
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> depends
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> if you're using commandline args to tell it which "service" to start, then I do mind :)
07:27 <spidey> no
07:28 <spidey> it's armastart
07:28 <spidey> just modded to support more than one game
07:28 <spidey> gameserver*
07:28 <spidey> now
07:28 <Lucifer_arma> I was thinking a config file that told it which services to start, and which config files to load to know how to start them
07:28 <Lucifer_arma> or something along those lines
07:28 <spidey> i'm attempting to make a bashbot like supybot for it
07:28 <spidey> care to help me figure out why the script's using 100% of the cpu? :p
07:29 <Lucifer_arma> then the config files would contain arguments, and might just be a flag that says "start this in an LSB-compliant way"
07:29 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, you must've removed the time.sleep() call :)
07:29 <Lucifer_arma> or somehow managed to bypass it
07:29 <spidey> no
07:29 <spidey> this is a bash script = not armastart :p
07:30 <spidey> here's a example
07:30 <Lucifer_arma> ah, pastebin the script then
07:31 <spidey> http://pastebin.ca/701570
07:31 <spidey> that's just for testing
07:31 <spidey> if i can get it to work, i'ma try porting supybot plugins to bash :D
07:32 <MrBougo> hehe while true
07:32 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, you need to sleep for a little while in the loop somewhere
07:32 <Lucifer_arma> in the while loop
07:32 <MrBougo> isnt there any endless loop? doesnt it exist?
07:32 <Lucifer_arma> that's to allow the kernel to schedule other tasks to run
07:32 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.ss64.com/bash/sleep.html
07:32 <Lucifer_arma> usually 200-400 ms is good enough
07:33 <spidey> ok
07:34 <MrBougo> i'm out
07:34 <MrBougo> cyas
07:35 <MrBougo> school time yipee D:
07:36 <spidey> ok lets see
07:36 <spidey> tail -n 1 games.log | ./bot.sh &
07:36 <spidey> that spams my console =/
07:36 <spidey> i added sleep 0.2 after fi
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07:37 <Lucifer_arma> did that fix it?  :)
07:38 <spidey> no =/
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> try putting it right after the do
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> or increasing the time to 1 second
07:40 <Lucifer_arma> it's possible the sleep command truncates, and 0.2 would become 0 in that case
07:40 <Lucifer_arma> my sleep command will take float as an argument, but according to the man page, most implementations do truncate to an integer
07:41 <spidey> hm
07:41 <spidey> maybe i shouldn't tail it
07:41 <spidey> wouldn't cat be better?
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> ummm, you're wanting it to react to a command that you've given it in the console ingame?
07:42 <spidey> tyes
07:43 <spidey> ack
07:43 <Lucifer_arma> there's a quick and easy way to do it, I think, within armastart
07:43 <spidey> but i'm not good at python =/
07:43 <spidey> bash either, but better than python
07:43 <Lucifer_arma> there's only one way to get good at python :)
07:44 <spidey> heh
07:44 <Lucifer_arma> use Kate, and use "replace tabs with spaces" and you should be fine
07:44 <spidey> gnome =/
07:44 <Lucifer_arma> then use whatever you want, any text editor worth its salt has this option :)
07:44 <Lucifer_arma> (even vim has it, but I don't know how to set it)
07:44 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, in armaprocess.py, in the function "got_output" is where to do the test
07:44 <spidey> hm
07:45 <spidey> i wish php-cli didn't want to uninstall 50 packages
07:45 <spidey> because i could do this no problem in php
07:45 <Lucifer_arma> add to the constructor a call to get the current time, and in got_output, get the current time, and then do a simple subtraction
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> man, quit wussing out over python.  we're only talking like 6 lines of code max you have to add, and I'm telling you where to put them
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> spend a few minutes with the library reference to get exact functions to call and you're done
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> take 20 minutes, max
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> I'd do it, but I want something more generic anyway, and I'd rather have nothing than the generic thing I want :)
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> I actually have code that'll give you an idea how to go about it, somewhere
07:48 <spidey> k
07:48 <spidey> but i'll have to restart the server to do it =/
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> http://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/armagetronad/private/Lucifer/aamaprotator/libaamaprotator/main.py?view=markup
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> it's not terribly easy to see what's going on, though
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> lemme check aadaemon, there's probably code there that does it too
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> here it is, in aamaprotator
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> I used regular expressions defined in a config file
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> line 39 creates the RE object using the string from the config file
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> line 51 uses a fancy tail object I dug up that just tails the log
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> you get an iterator from there, so on line 56 that basically says "for every line in the log file", knowing that the log file continues to grow
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> then on line 57 I do the actual regex match.  Result will contain the results of the regex, or None if there was no match
07:51 <spidey> you've lost me
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> so the regex itself, iirc, matched on "Match Winner:" or something similar, and it controls the map rotation
07:52 <Lucifer_arma> basically, the way regexes in python works, you create a regex object from the RE module
07:52 <Lucifer_arma> then you give it a string and say "compile this regex"
07:52 <Lucifer_arma> you get an object from that
07:52 <Lucifer_arma> that object, you call it's "match" method with a string to see if the regex matches
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> the regex is a regular expression like any other, but the syntax is changed a little bit to accomodate python's own escape methods
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> otherwise, any regex you dig up can be used, provided you check syntax.
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> but all it gives you is whether or not the string you give it matches the regex it has, it doesn't take any action.
07:54 <Lucifer_arma> So you might be used to doing something like sed 's/spidey/nitwit/g'
07:54 <Lucifer_arma> that's a regex, a very simple one, but it says "replace 'spidey' with 'nitwit'", right?
07:54 <Lucifer_arma> python's regex module doesn't work that way, and afaik, no languages regex modules actually work that way, regular expressions are just a way of searching strings
07:55 <Lucifer_arma> taking action on the string is separate
07:55 <Lucifer_arma> sed and grep and some others give you the actions as well
07:55 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, what you're doing is basically searching a string in the console that includes the word "uptime", right?
07:55 <Lucifer_arma> let's say that's good enough, anytime someone says "uptime", you'll print it
07:56 <Lucifer_arma> you could just do a simple search using a string method.  Something like this:
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> if theLine.find("uptime") >= 0:  print "Uptime: whatever"
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> that's fine, but maybe you'd rather uptime be by itself in a chat command
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> you could refine it with:
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> if theLine.endswith("uptime"): print "Uptime: whatever"
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> now it will be true if I say "I wanted to determine my server's uptime"
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> but maybe you only want it to appear if someone messages it to themself, by saying "/msg Lucifer_arma uptime"
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> the output on the console that you're capturing in armastart will read (in armagetron, anyway) something like this:
07:59 <Lucifer_arma> [sometimestamp] [4] Lucifer_arma -> Lucifer_arma: uptime
07:59 <Lucifer_arma> so you want a regular expression that will extract the strings on both sides of the "->" character, so you can compare them, and also detects the word "uptime"
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> your alternative is to parse the string.  In this example, parsing the string isn't terribly difficult, you could do this:
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> theLine = theLine.split("->")
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> if len(theLine) > 1:
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> now you have split the line of output on the -> sequence, and checked to see that it actually split (if len(theLine) is less than one, then -> wasn't in the line and you have a list with only one element in it)
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> now it gets trickier and I'm not going into it with real python code
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> but what you want to do now is take everything up to the first space, starting on the right, out of theLine[0], which gives you the name of the person on the left side of the ->
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> similarly, in theLine[1], you want everything up to the colon, which gives you the name on the right of the ->
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> then you compare them to each other
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> but what happens if my name is "Lucifer arma"?
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> your parser breaks down, because the name it gets on the left side is just "arma", while the name it gets on the right is "Lucifer arma", and those two are not equal
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> that's where regular expressions come in
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> using a regular expression, you can very easily extract the full name based on what the whole string contains
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> if you don't get regular expressions after that long explanation, I'm sorry.  If you do, then my previous explanation of how the aamaprotator code should make sense now, if you look at the link I gave to it :)
08:06  * Lucifer_arma just realized his explanation started from most complex and went to most simple, you might read it from the bottom if it doesn't make sense :)
08:06 <spidey> lol
08:08 <spidey> what's python's equal to echo?
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> print
08:25 <spidey> ok
08:25 <spidey> firefox is telling me "please close some of these tabs, i only have 512mb of ram to work with"
08:26 <Lucifer_arma> haha
08:27 <spidey> xorg is telling me "if you close firefox i'll stop using 57% of the cpu"
08:43 <Stewie-arma> bye everyone
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09:03 <luke-jr> spidey: firefox is a resource hog
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14:46 <nixda|frealy> hi
14:49 <P4> hey
14:50 <nixda|frealy> somebody here with a server across the ocean? :)
14:51 <nixda|frealy> (south, north america or canada i mean)
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15:10 <noob7> frealy, "k" and "l" are right next to each other right? :p
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15:33 <nixda|frealy> sure, noob7
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17:46 <hoop_tron> hello
17:46 <epsy> hay hoop
17:46 <hoop_tron> haiii
17:46 <hoop_tron> cafe fort is lagging much, who could reboot it?
17:47 <epsy> wrtlprnft i presume :)
17:47 <hoop_tron> yea, but hes not here
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17:47 <epsy> #lastseen phant
17:47 <armabot> epsy: ~|DS|~ Phantom has last been seen on Z-Man's AFL Fortress RESERVED FOR TOURNAMENT, KEEP OUT. 19 hours 8 minutes ago.
17:48 <epsy>  #tea
17:56 <eddiefantastic> wrtlprnft is in barcelona
17:56 <noob7> schooltrip eh?
17:56 <epsy> woa he keeps on vacations
17:56 <eddiefantastic> I can reboot it, but it wont help
17:56 <eddiefantastic> *restart
17:56 <epsy> what about styball?
17:56 <noob7> no vacation epsy, school has started in germany again... for him at least :D
17:57 <eddiefantastic> it gets restarted anyway after 1 min of inactivity
17:57 <epsy> but he's in barcelone man
17:57 <epsy> O_o
17:57 <noob7> but not on vacation ;)
17:57 <epsy> on what then ?
17:57 <eddiefantastic> it's hosted at the same server farm as ctwf, we have the same problems
17:57 <noob7> schooltrip
17:57 <epsy> schoolreip from the first week ? are you kidding ?
17:58 <noob7> second week
17:58 <eddiefantastic> use ct bugfarm clone. That has a STRONG connection ;)
17:58 <epsy> and a stong thing to fuck my nick up
17:58 <noob7> or even third? I dunno... I don't even know for sure when Uni starts again for me
17:58 <eddiefantastic> different server
18:02 <nixda|frealy> me again, is somebody here hosting an american fortress server? :)
18:03 <eddiefantastic> you want to find Manta
18:03 <eddiefantastic> he hosts the Wild West servers
18:03 <nixda|frealy> oh Okay
18:04 <epsy> all oops is away
18:04 <nixda|frealy> ....and where can i find him? :)
18:04 <epsy> i seems
18:04 <epsy> *it
18:04 <eddiefantastic> I think he has a base at durkadurkaland.com
18:04 <eddiefantastic> at least he did last time i went there several years ago
18:04 <nixda|frealy> :D
18:05 <nixda|frealy> thanks
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18:06 <nixda|frealy> isn't durka's server in the US too?
18:06 <eddiefantastic> it's been uk
18:07 <eddiefantastic> but I recall seeing a usa one in the server list recently
18:07 <eddiefantastic> http://durkadurkaland.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=16
18:07 <eddiefantastic> he's your man
18:07 <eddiefantastic> if durka has a us server, chances are Manta hosts it
18:10 <eddiefantastic> don't spend more than a few minutes on durkadurkaland.com, it rots your brain
18:10 <eddiefantastic> As I read random posts I feel my IQ dropping
18:22 <P4> #lastseen manta
18:22 <armabot> P4: [J/K] Manta has last been seen on  Wild West  =Capture The Flag= 9 hours 8 minutes ago.
18:22 <P4> wasn't he in oops not JK?
18:24 <eddiefantastic> yes he was
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18:53 <epsy> #tea
18:53 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: No online players.
18:53 <epsy> beeh
18:53 <epsy> #onlineservers
18:53 <armabot> epsy: This data is 102 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (15/14), NIXDA.NET - SUMO (11/16), Norm's Place (8/12), ¬| D u r k a  D u r k a  L an d | ¬ (7/16), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (6/12), Tigers Network Classic Play (6/16), NIXDA.NET - IV (5/16), |FA| Clan Server 1  Shooting Gallery! (4/16), WILDCAT (4/16), SPACEZONE II S (4/15), ~*SpeederS*~ **TILT** Server (7 PM) (1 more message)
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20:07 <nixda|frealy> #lastseen manta
20:07 <armabot> nixda|frealy: [J/K] Manta has last been seen on  Wild West  =Capture The Flag= 10 hours 53 minutes ago.
20:07 <nixda|frealy> #tea
20:07 <armabot> nixda|frealy: Fortress Café: No online players.
20:07 <nixda|frealy> lol :)
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20:52 <luke-jr> spidey: ...
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21:42 <Lucifer_arma> weird
21:42 <Lucifer_arma> right over my house, it's bright and sunny
21:43 <Lucifer_arma> but across the street, the sky's full of the evilest looking thunderclouds
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22:01 <epsy> Lucifer_arma, where is the "official" config for the afl ?
22:06 <epsy> Lucifer_arma, ping
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22:09 <Lucifer_arma> epsy: remind me again later tonight and I'll post it
22:10 <epsy> ok
22:10 <epsy> well, tell noob7 about it too :)
22:10 <noob7> I will be asleep "later tonight" since it'll be morning here then
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22:30 <epsy> hay Hoax-
22:30 <epsy> :)
22:31 <Hoax-> yo epso:D
22:36 <epsy> :D
22:37 <epsy> How You Doin?
22:39 <Hoax-> Excellent.
22:40 <epsy> :
22:40 <epsy> :)
22:41 <Hoax-> xchat won't minimise :/ LOL brb
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22:41 <epsy> #lastseen hoax
22:41 <armabot> epsy: Hoax has last been seen on NIXDA.NET - FORTRESS 2 hours 14 minutes ago.
22:41 <epsy> #lastseen goax
22:41 <armabot> epsy: ¦w¦Goax has last been seen on [] Cheers! []  A clone of Norms Place, by Angel. 1 day 5 hours 14 minutes ago.
22:41 <epsy> ^^
22:48 <epsy> #lastseen DS
22:48 <armabot> epsy: ~|DS|~|CruZ|~ has last been seen on Fortress Café 1 minute ago.
22:48 <epsy> aw
22:49 <epsy> #sd -v DS
22:49 <armabot> epsy: Strawberry Fields ( running unix dedicated, url: http://mastercontrolprogram.de, Description: “brought to you by the Secret Society of Anonymous Noobs“, Players (1/16): stadiumarcadium
22:49 <epsy> -.-
22:49 <noob7> ?
22:49 <epsy> #sd -v 100
22:49 <armabot> epsy: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Arena {100MBit} ( running unix dedicated, Description: “DarkSyndicate Classic Singleplay Arena“, No online players.
22:49 <epsy> no url...excellent
22:50 <noob7> http://ds.experimentalworks.net/
22:51 <epsy> ty very munch
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22:53 <epsy> wv
22:53 <epsy> *wb
22:53 <Hoax-> :P
22:53 <Hoax-> thx
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23:25 <epsy> cu
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23:51 <Flex_> ok someone answer this: What is Armagetron/Tron?
23:51 <Flex_> arcade/action game wtf is it..
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Log from 2007-09-19:
--- Day changed Wed Sep 19 2007
00:13 <Lucifer_arma> it's a light cycle game
00:14 <Lucifer_arma> light cycle games are a genre all their own at this point
00:14  * noob7 chuckles
00:14 <Lucifer_arma> anybody play Wet Paint back in the day?
00:14 <noob7> back in what day?
00:14 <Lucifer_arma> 80s
00:14 <Lucifer_arma> it was a c-64 game
00:14 <noob7> not that I remember so
00:14 <Lucifer_arma> probably available on Apple comps too
00:15 <Lucifer_arma> you were a paint brush, and you had to paint the whole wall, but you couldn't paint over anything you'd already painted
00:15 <noob7> neat concept
00:16 <Lucifer_arma> wasted many hours on that very simple game :)
00:16 <noob7> oh hey, I am supposed to remind you about making the AFL cfg available
00:17 <Lucifer_arma> later on tonight, when I get home from work
00:17 <noob7> :p
00:17 <Lucifer_arma> ~10pm CDT
00:17 <noob7> can you maybe #m me the link to it then?
00:17 <Lucifer_arma> I just need to doublecheck that it has the recommendations made by the summer players
00:17 <noob7> ok
00:17 <Lucifer_arma> I could, but if you read the forums, you'll find it
00:18 <noob7> ok
00:18 <Lucifer_arma> if you want to get a jump on it, you could dig up the original config and go to the discussion thread and just make those changes directly
00:19 <noob7> I'm about to go to bed actually
00:19 <Lucifer_arma> sleeping is for sissies
00:19 <noob7> epsy asked me to host the Donkey server for him
00:19 <Lucifer_arma> ah.  for his AFL team?
00:19 <noob7> that'S why I'd need the cfg for
00:19 <noob7> yeah
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00:20 <Lucifer_arma> ko.  I'm also thinking it should be an "official" recommendation that players use ed's fortress moviepack
00:20 <Lucifer_arma> we can't force them to, of course
00:22 <Flex_> Can I have a link to that please?
00:28 <Lucifer_arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=191840
00:29 <noob7> god I hate sbnc... why do I have to create seperate users for each server I want to connect to?
00:29 <luke-jr> wtf is that
00:30 <noob7> shroudBNC
00:30 <Lucifer_arma> wow, I don't have kolourpaint installed
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00:41 <luke-jr> noob7: kinda inherent in how a BNC works
00:49 <noob7> !t eng ger inherent
00:49 <noob7> #t eng ger inherent
00:49 <armabot> noob7: zugehörig
00:50 <noob7> well other BNCs are able to tunnel to more than one server right? maybe I am just making stuff up tho :D
00:59 <Gursikh> Hey guys, is it a known issue that armagetron sometimes randomly minimizes itself?
00:59 <noob7> if you press the "f" key :D
00:59 <Gursikh> no, no go from full screen to windowed, I mean fully minimized (to tray)
01:00 <Gursikh>  snot*
01:00 <Lucifer_arma> no, it's a known issue that when this happens, it's usually some external thing that armagetron gets blamed for
01:00 <Gursikh> grr, NOT*
01:01 <Lucifer_arma> not that I'm trying to deny a problem, just that in every case so far where this "bug" has been reported, it's always turned out to be something in the player's environment
01:01 <noob7> like a MSN or AIM message
01:01 <Lucifer_arma> most common is as noob7 says, people accidentally pressing the full-screen key
01:01 <Gursikh> I've experienced it on 2 different computers so far
01:01 <Lucifer_arma> there's another one, some IM programs cause you to jump to the desktop so you can see their window
01:01 <Gursikh> both ubuntu 7.04 linux
01:02 <Lucifer_arma> alt-tab could do it it, and you can hit that combination if you've actually bound alt to something
01:02 <Gursikh> the desktop ubuntu was running nothing else at all
01:02 <Gursikh> default everything
01:02 <Gursikh> except screen resolution
01:02 <Lucifer_arma> gnome?
01:02 <Gursikh> yes gnome
01:02 <Lucifer_arma> get a better DE :)
01:03 <Gursikh> on my tablet it's done it under xfce as well
01:03 <Lucifer_arma> both gtk-based environments
01:03 <Lucifer_arma> meaning the problem is probably somewhere in gtk
01:03 <Lucifer_arma> we've had several people report problems under gnome
01:03 <Lucifer_arma> but since we've never been able to replicate these problems, what can we do?
01:04 <Gursikh> I see, one of those :-(
01:04 <Lucifer_arma> if it makes you feel any better, I"m running the same version of ubuntu, except it's called "Kubuntu" on my machine :)
01:04 <Gursikh> I'll start saving logs, maybe something will come up
01:04 <Lucifer_arma> ko
01:04 <Lucifer_arma> recordings might help, but I doubt the information we actually want is in there
01:04 <Gursikh> I've run kde in the past, eventually came back to gnome and now beryl
01:05 <Lucifer_arma> eek.  lots of problems in beryl
01:05 <Gursikh> yeah, opengl fails with beryl
01:05 <Gursikh> I dont play under beryl >_>
01:05 <Lucifer_arma> heh, good :)
01:06 <Gursikh> usually play under xfce
01:06 <Lucifer_arma> see if there's a pattern
01:06 <Gursikh> haven't really noticed one, but I'll pay more attention
01:06 <Lucifer_arma> I used to have problems back in the day with the screensaver kicking in
01:07 <Gursikh> I'll also ask my friend who plays under wmii
01:07 <Lucifer_arma> in fact, there's a number of old posts ont he forums about others having *that* problem
01:07 <Gursikh> I dont use any screensaver
01:07 <Gursikh> on my tablet, it's ether on and working, or closed and suspended
01:07 <Lucifer_arma> well, let's say the route to disable the screensaver they took was to force an X11 event on the desktop that focuses it
01:08 <Lucifer_arma> *that* would create the problem you see, and wouldn't exist in KDE
01:08 <Gursikh> ah
01:08 <Lucifer_arma> get scorched3d and see how that does
01:08 <Gursikh> I could play under kde and see if the problem reappears
01:08 <Lucifer_arma> the easiest way to determine if it's arma's fault is to see if other gl games have the same problem
01:09 <Gursikh> well, tremulous doesn't
01:09 <Lucifer_arma> of course, if they don't have the same problem, that doesn't really prove anything, but it's fun to find out :)
01:09 <Gursikh> and glob2 doesn't either
01:09 <Lucifer_arma> glob2 doesn't use gl by default...
01:09 <Gursikh> I set it to
01:10  * Lucifer_arma hasn't noticed a difference in glob2's performance or appearance with gl enabled and isn't convinced it's actually working with gl
01:10 <Gursikh> me niether
01:10 <Lucifer_arma> but yeah, try under kde and see if it happens
01:10 <Lucifer_arma> assuming you have kde already
01:10 <Gursikh> uses like 3% less ram, is the only reason I do
01:10 <Gursikh> i do
01:11 <Lucifer_arma> you might make sure to update all libraries and stuff with synaptic
01:11 <Gursikh> i'm up-to-date
01:11 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, first try it in kde and see if it happens
01:11 <Lucifer_arma> if so, try to get the exact state of the machine when you did
01:11 <Lucifer_arma> then I'll update and ive it a shot
01:11 <Gursikh> right-o
01:11 <Lucifer_arma> problem is, i don't currently have 3d acceleration
01:12 <Lucifer_arma> but maybe next week, after the load of tests, I'll have a chance to get some 3d acceleration going :)
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01:14 <noob7> whoah the #mediadefender-defenders on EFnet is going crazy, I can't even read as fast as the # gets spammed up
01:16 <noob7> wasnt I about to go to bed like an hour ago?
01:17 <noob7> meh
01:20 <tramshed> they are bein spammod?
01:20 <tramshed> haha
01:20 <tramshed> I bet its l0de
01:21 <noob7> no, no spam... just lots of digg users joining in and talking about the same stuff over and over again
01:21 <noob7> i.e. "spam"
01:23 <tramshed> aw
01:23 <noob7> got your hopes up?
01:27 <tramshed> haah yeah
01:27 <tramshed> I love a good spamming
01:27 <tramshed> what can I say
01:27 <tramshed> comin round the block leavin you in chalk, I love musket balls in my flint lock glock
01:29 <noob7> cap'n dan?
01:29 <noob7> ;)
01:30 <tramshed> hell yeah
01:30 <tramshed> pirate rap owns
01:30 <tramshed> how do you know about pirate raps
01:30 <tramshed> I just learned about it from unixpunx
01:30 <noob7> I've been listening to the new album all day yesterday
01:30 <noob7> stairs?
01:30 <tramshed> man, I need to get this shit
01:30 <tramshed> ive been jammin thier myspace page
01:30 <noob7> wait a sec
01:31 <noob7> http://alluvion.org/download.php?info_hash=1e52ef0e849f3c847b97d65bfcb0bcff35b15a41
01:31 <noob7> official torrent
01:32 <tramshed> score.
01:32 <noob7> there's a direct download as well, but torrent will be faster I suppose
01:32 <noob7> here'S the thread on SA: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2627599
01:33 <tramshed> yeah, im pullin 280kbps
01:33 <noob7> ;)
01:41 <noob7> tramshed, done?
01:41 <tramshed> indeed
01:41 <tramshed> need to extract it  now
01:42 <tramshed> what the hell is this macosx dir, hehe
01:42 <noob7> just ignore it
01:42 <noob7> I guess the rar was packed on a mac
01:43 <tramshed> woot
01:43 <tramshed> [Captain Dan & The Scurvy Crew - Rimes of the Hip Hop Mariners - Hook It Up] [0:05/3:23]
01:44 <noob7> :D
01:44 <noob7> lean back, pour some rum and enjoy
02:15 <tramshed> ineded
02:16 <tramshed> [Captain Dan & The Scurvy Crew - Rimes of the Hip Hop Mariners - Sea Rovin'] [2:54/3:56]
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03:05 <Gursikh> Lucifer_arma: just happened under kde
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04:01 <Vanhayes_> #weather saint john
04:01 <armabot> Vanhayes_: Temperature: 43°F / 6°C | Humidity: 76% | Pressure: 30.40in / 1029hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h | Updated: 10:00 PM ADT; Tonight - Clear. Fog patches overnight. Low 4C(39F) with risk of frost.; Wednesday - Sunny with cloudy periods. Wind becoming southwest 20 km/h (12 mph) in the afternoon. High 24C(75F) except 18C(64F) along the fundy coast. (1 more message)
04:01 <Vanhayes_> #weather sylvan lake
04:02 <armabot> Vanhayes_: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
04:02 <Vanhayes_> #weather red deer
04:02 <armabot> Vanhayes_: The current temperature in Red Deer, Alberta is 46.4°F (7:00 PM MDT on September 18, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 35.6°F. Windchill: 41.0°F. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Rising).
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04:25 <Stewie-arma> spidey: ping
04:25 <spidey> ?
04:25 <Stewie-arma> hacker in tremx server
04:25 <Stewie-arma> TJ
04:25 <Stewie-arma> went from S1 to S3 with one kill
04:26 <Stewie-arma> he's been baned for 30 minutes but I couldn't permaban him
04:55 <Lucifer_arma> bane him!  bane him!
04:59 <Lucifer_arma> z-man-work: kicking?
04:59 <Lucifer_arma> (probably not, he's probably asleep)
05:08 <tramshed> !math 1142/24
05:08 <tramshed> !calc 1142/24
05:08 <tramshed> dammit, what was it
05:08 <tramshed> #calc 1142/24
05:08 <armabot> tramshed: Error: The command "calc" is available in the Google and Math plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "calc".
05:08 <tramshed> #math 1142/24
05:09 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 1142/24
05:09 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 47.5833333333
05:09 <tramshed> hah
05:09  * Lucifer_arma wonders if it's even useful anymore to have the google plugin loaded
05:09 <tramshed> hah, I dont have to hear the same song twices for 47 and a half days
05:10 <Lucifer_arma> you don't listen to radio much, do you?
05:10 <Lucifer_arma> (where you'd hear the same song 47 and a half times a day)
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05:11 <tramshed> hah
05:11 <tramshed> yeah, radio sucks
05:20 <Gursikh> Lucifer_arma: minimized twice under kde, nothing in log or recording
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05:36 <Durka> z-man-work: ping
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> heh, I pinged him earlier already :)
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> I think this will work, but I'm going to hurry up and post it and ask folks to test it before we make it the official settings for the fall season
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> I've already made the other chanes, I'm just reorganizing a little bit to make it easier to setup, and writing a readme file to tell
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> people how to do it
06:00 <Durka> I don't think it will work ^^
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06:06 <Lucifer_arma> noob7: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=191902#191902  <--- AFL settings alpha, please test since you're in such a hurry :)
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06:54 <Lucifer_arma> #quote get 22
06:54 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #22: "i got a pen from a microsoft rep about 2 months ago.. already stopped working properly -- Plazma" (added by Lucifer_arma at 03:46 AM, September 19, 2006)
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07:03 <Gursikh> Lucifer_arma: 4 times in kde so far
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> er, you're supposed to be trying to find a pattern, not just counting
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> I just tried to get the nvidia driver installed again and failed :(
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> it won't pop out of 1024x768, which looks funky on my monitor
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07:26 <spidey> Lucifer_arma,
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> spidey:
07:26 <spidey> you trying to use the kde thing for resolution?
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> I tried that, and I tried hacking my xorg.conf file directly to force it to just one resolution
07:26 <spidey> run this in commandline > nvidia-settings
07:26 <spidey> try selecting a different res
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> sudo: nvidia-settings: command not found
07:27 <spidey> don't sudo
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> I have to use the nvidia-glx-legacy driver
07:28 <spidey> nvidia-settings is for configuring nvidia drivers
07:28 <spidey> :P
07:28 <spidey> and why legacy? your card that old? o.o
07:29 <Lucifer_arma> apparently it is
07:30 <Lucifer_arma> bbiab
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07:33 <spidey> that was fast
07:33 <spidey> lol
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07:46  * GodTodd wishes ati would get some real drivers :/
07:47 <luke-jr> GodTodd: what card?
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07:47 <GodTodd> radeon xpress 200m
07:47 <luke-jr> what is the equivalent discrete card?
07:47 <GodTodd> ?
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07:48 <luke-jr> Xpress is embedded
07:48 <luke-jr> and the #s are different from the equivalent discrete cards
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07:48 <luke-jr> and I'm too lazy to look it up :p
07:48 <GodTodd> sec
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07:49  * luke-jr pokes Lucifer_arma
07:50 <luke-jr> spidey: ...
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07:52 <spidey> luke-jr, ?
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07:53 <luke-jr> spidey: your domain expired...
07:54 <GodTodd> bah...i'm too tired to do effective searching :/
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07:56 <spidey> luke-jr, k
07:57 <luke-jr> GodTodd: RV370
07:57 <luke-jr> spidey: ... you want it? O.o
07:57 <luke-jr> GodTodd: equivalent to
07:57 <luke-jr> Radeon X300
07:57 <luke-jr> Radeon X1050
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07:58 <luke-jr> There is experimental 3D for Xpress 200M Northbridge integrated gpus (june 2007).
07:59 <GodTodd> hrmm
07:59 <GodTodd> might be worth a try
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08:01 <luke-jr> GodTodd: that's probably Xorg 7.2 or such
08:01 <luke-jr> fairly recent, anyhow
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08:02 <luke-jr> someone figure out wtf is up with Lucifer_arma
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08:08 <GodTodd> luke-jr: i have xorg 7.2.0
08:12 <spidey> luke
08:12 <spidey> resign in jabber
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08:21 <luke-jr> spidey:
08:21 <luke-jr> why
08:21 <spidey> because it shows you offline? :p
08:21 <luke-jr> spidey: maybe because you're offline
08:21 <spidey> am not
08:21 <luke-jr> are too if your IM domain is expired, I bet
08:22 <luke-jr> "oops"?
08:22 <spidey> i'm looking at people on jabber right now
08:22 <luke-jr> lol
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08:22 <luke-jr> luke-jr@yokochan ~ $ dig SRV _xmpp-server._tcp.fallin-angels.net +short
08:22 <luke-jr> luke-jr@yokochan ~ $
08:23 <luke-jr> if you're able to IM anyone with it, that won't last very long
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08:40 <Lucifer_arma> I give up
08:45 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: ?
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09:42 <Lucifer_arma> yay, now I'm running without an xorg.conf
09:42 <Lucifer_arma> too bad it didn't load the nvidia driver, but otherwise worked fine
09:43 <luke-jr> ...
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09:48 <tramshed> im willing to bet there is a xorg.conf somewhere
09:48 <luke-jr> tramshed: bad idea
09:48 <tramshed> hah
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09:49 <tramshed> how the fucks it gonna run without one
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09:51 <luke-jr> tramshed: the same way it makes one automatically with the -configure flag
09:51 <tramshed> he must have the most generic hardware on the planet
09:51 <luke-jr> single-head isn't that rare
09:51 <luke-jr> and really, dual-head is the only thing I've seen X have problems autodetecting
09:52 <tramshed> course, ive never actually tried, so im just talking shit
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09:52 <tramshed> I know it wont autodetect my setup right
09:52 <luke-jr> why?
09:52 <tramshed> dualhead + 1 vid card
09:52 <tramshed> various monitors
09:52 <tramshed> various resolutions
09:52 <luke-jr> well, obviously it can't detect user preference :)
09:52 <tramshed> some crt, some flatpanel, some widescreen, some not
09:53 <luke-jr> I'll bet you would get *some* display out of it tho
09:53 <tramshed> it *might* get one monitor
09:53 <tramshed> but I dont think it would get the other two
09:53  * luke-jr notes most modern monitors report their capabilities to X
09:53 <tramshed> or the second vid card
09:53 <luke-jr> I think it would detect them at least
09:53 <tramshed> only one of these monitors would be considered modern
09:53 <luke-jr> it would probably make them all isolated X sessions
09:54 <tramshed> and xinerama fucks shit up anyways
09:54 <tramshed> I run them as separate sessions anyways
09:54 <luke-jr> isolated X sessions != Xinerama
09:54 <luke-jr> MergedFB worked half decent ;)
09:54 <tramshed>  I have issues with it not knowing where the fuck to put 3d acceled windows
09:55 <tramshed> thats why I keep them separate
09:55 <luke-jr> why do you care where?
09:55 <luke-jr> move them
09:55 <luke-jr> duh
09:55 <tramshed> its a pain to play a game spread across 3 monitors which all have diff resoultions
09:55 <tramshed> and it doesnt let you move a fullscreen window
09:55 <tramshed> thats why I keep em separate
09:55 <tramshed> so when I full screen it stays on one screen
09:56 <luke-jr> ...
09:56 <luke-jr> arma, at least, supports fullscreen on one of many displays
09:56 <tramshed> arma doesnt stay on one screen here
09:56 <tramshed> not with xinerama at least
09:56 <tramshed> it just plops right down in the middle of them all
09:56 <luke-jr> did you set its fullscreen resolution to only one of them?
09:56 <tramshed> yep
09:56 <tramshed> 1680x1050
09:56 <luke-jr> ...
09:57 <tramshed> and its half on the center screen, half on the left screen
09:57 <luke-jr> oh, I remember now
09:57 <tramshed> the left screen runs 1024x768
09:57 <luke-jr> to do that, it clones the rest
09:57 <luke-jr> err
09:57 <tramshed> middle runs 1680x1050
09:57 <luke-jr> that's messed up
09:57 <tramshed> and the right runs 800x600
09:57 <luke-jr> you have the Xinerama supported by your WM?
09:57 <tramshed> yeah
09:57 <tramshed> xfce4
09:57 <tramshed> none of my games listen to it for fuckall though
09:57 <luke-jr> I must say, xfce4's xinerama support sucks if it has any :p
09:58 <tramshed> well, im not gonna run bloatfest 3000 for it
09:58 <tramshed> ill just use separate screens
09:58 <luke-jr> :p
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09:58 <tramshed> I just added panels to each screen to run the apps on the screen I want
09:59 <tramshed> this way I can run 3 armas at once with hardware accel
09:59 <luke-jr> if your brain could handle it maybe
09:59 <tramshed> hah
09:59 <tramshed> eventually im gonna try to make them totally separate sessions
09:59 <tramshed> so 3 people can use my box at once
10:00 <luke-jr> easy enough
10:00 <tramshed> Ive never tried
10:00 <tramshed> so I dont know how easy it is
10:01 <tramshed> btw, did you want me to set up an ftp on my hoster?
10:01 <luke-jr> no
10:01 <luke-jr> why
10:01 <tramshed> you mentioned it on the forums
10:01 <luke-jr> ?
10:01 <tramshed> about needin more mirrors
10:01 <luke-jr> yeah
10:01 <luke-jr> but ftp sucks
10:01 <tramshed> ftp and http is all they will let me do
10:01 <luke-jr> they suck
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10:01 <luke-jr> lol
10:01 <tramshed> haha
10:01 <tramshed> they do really
10:01 <tramshed> but its free to me
10:01 <luke-jr> fine, I think KDE supports FTP
10:02 <tramshed> my friend payed for like 2 or 3 years of em
10:02 <tramshed> brb
10:02 <luke-jr> ..
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10:05 <tramshed> gback
10:05 <luke-jr> ugh
10:05 <luke-jr> did google buy 'back' now?
10:05 <tramshed> ?
10:05 <tramshed> haha
10:06 <luke-jr> I keep giving people bad advice cuz I'm tired
10:06 <luke-jr> I told spidey to use:
10:06 <luke-jr> while IFS= read line; echo "$line"; done
10:06 <luke-jr> and now I just told some guy in ##linux to use:
10:06 <luke-jr> while IFS= read line; $line; done
10:06 <tramshed> heh
10:06 <luke-jr> cat and sh
10:07 <luke-jr> duh :(
10:07 <tramshed> I have the distinct feelings that isnt going to ever finish
10:07 <luke-jr> ...
10:07 <tramshed> dont mind me if I dont make sense, im wasted at m
10:07 <luke-jr> :(){ :|:& };:
10:07 <tramshed> I need to brush up on my bash, the time I was locked up made me forget it all
10:07 <tramshed> hah
10:07 <luke-jr> guess what that code does
10:07 <luke-jr> :)
10:07 <tramshed> no forkbomb for me.
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10:08 <tramshed> () :|: & ; :
10:08 <tramshed> thats my onjoin on syntehtic geeks, hehe
10:09 <luke-jr> ...
10:09 <luke-jr> invalid?
10:09 <tramshed> might be
10:09 <tramshed> ive never grown the nuts to try it
10:10 <spidey> spidey@hax:~/Desktop$ () :|: & ; :
10:10 <spidey> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `)'
10:11 <tramshed> oh noes
10:11 <tramshed> oh well
10:11 <luke-jr> tramshed: a properly configured system isn't vuln anyway
10:12 <luke-jr> via /etc/security/limits, that is
10:12 <luke-jr> limits.conf*
10:12 <luke-jr> just restrict every user to 500 processes or so
10:12 <tramshed> yeah
10:13 <tramshed> its ancient, I know
10:13 <luke-jr> I'm under 300 processes total on my main box
10:13 <tramshed> im running 247
10:13 <luke-jr> 251
10:13 <spidey> 127 here
10:13 <luke-jr> 2 of those were 'ps' and 'wc' tho
10:14 <luke-jr> and one was the header line
10:14 <luke-jr> so really 248
10:14 <luke-jr> :p
10:14 <tramshed> lol
10:15 <luke-jr> anyone wanna buy ipod speakers?
10:15 <tramshed> windows users are all like, WTF 200 processes!
10:15 <luke-jr> that's cuz their crap is even more bloated
10:15 <luke-jr> Windows, Explorer, FireFox...
10:16 <tramshed> yeah
10:16 <luke-jr> and I've got X apps running remote too
10:16 <luke-jr> well, remote as in on my LAN
10:17 <luke-jr> so if I add those in, I might top 300
10:17 <luke-jr> I love X's network transparency :D
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10:57 <spidey> not really
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14:12 <MrBougo> http://www.explosm.net/comics/1024/
14:12 <MrBougo> haha
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15:38 <MrBougo> ITLAPD!
15:38 <MrBougo> International Talk Like A Pirate Day!
15:38 <MrBougo> harr!
15:41 <Gursikh> yarr, me matey. STFU!
15:41 <Gursikh> :-P
15:41 <MrBougo> i cant tak pirate :(
15:41 <MrBougo> talk*
15:41 <Gursikh> You sound like a software pirate to me >_>
15:42 <MrBougo> oh i can talk software pirate
15:42 <MrBougo> but not regular pirate
15:43 <Gursikh> One could argue that software pirate _is_ this century's "normal" pirate
15:54 <mkzelda> happy end-of-probation day
15:55 <mkzelda> i just got a phone call from us probation saying they were closing my case file
15:55 <mkzelda> asking whether or not i wanted my documents shredded
16:01 <noob7> that's great mkzelda
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16:43 <epsy> hmm
16:44 <epsy> i need some help with gimp
16:44 <epsy> when i fill up some surface with a color, it blurs the sides and does a mix with the outher color
16:45 <epsy> i want a clear border
16:59 <epsy> nvm
16:59 <epsy> -> inkscape :p
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17:16 <noob7> epsy, there is a checkbox somehwere to set the blur
17:16 <noob7> I dont remember well enough
17:17 <epsy> yea i just switched to inkscape and done the tab pics
17:17 <epsy> ^^
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18:10 <z-man-work> GAAAA! I knew I shouldn't have clicked on vibe's myspace profile link.
18:11  * z-man-work plugs eyes back into their sockets.
18:12 <z-man-work> Heh, looks like philippe fell into the same trap :)
18:18  * Lucifer_arma doesn't click on myspace links--ever
18:19 <spidey> isn't myspace for emos?
18:20 <luke-jr> and perverts
18:20 <spidey> luke-jr, i 75% of the way got that wrapper working :)
18:23 <luke-jr> Gursikh: nope, because there is no such thing as a "software pirate"
18:24 <luke-jr> spidey: I want candy :(
18:25 <spidey> i want breakfast
18:25 <spidey> cook sausage eggs and biscuits then i'll give you a peppermint
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18:50 <beta_usa> hello
18:57 <epsy> ah
18:57 <epsy> :P
18:57 <beta_usa> hey :p
18:57 <epsy> salut :p
18:58 <beta_usa> :)
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20:18 <MrBougo> #ping
20:18 <armabot> pong
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20:33 <spidey> http://www.wellho.co.uk/slideshow/plx8.jpg
20:33 <spidey> lol
20:43 <luke-jr> spidey: wrong!
20:43 <spidey> lol
20:44 <luke-jr> fork does not return true
20:55 <Vanhayes> thats because its a spoon
21:10 <Lucifer_arma> er, I didn't get it
21:32 <spidey> lol
21:36 <Lucifer_arma> lli
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21:55 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
21:55 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 63°F / 17°C | Humidity: 52% | Pressure: 30.24in / 1024hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 15mph / 24km/h | Updated: 4:00 PM ADT; Tonight - A few clouds. Fog patches along the fundy coast overnight. Wind southwest 20 km/h (12 mph) gusting to 40 km/h (25 mph) becoming light this evening. Low 9C(48F).; Thursday - Sunny with cloudy periods. Fog (1 more message)
21:55 <mixnetwork> hi all
21:55 <Vanhayes> #weather red deer
21:55 <armabot> Vanhayes: The current temperature in Red Deer, Alberta is 44.6°F (1:00 PM MDT on September 19, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 30.2°F. Windchill: 39.2°F. Pressure: 30.31 in 1026 hPa (Falling).
22:19 <beta_usa> Does anyone know why CYCLE_WALLS_LENGTH is always reset at the beginning of a game ? I set it to 50 in settings_custom.cfg and in everytime.cfg, but each round, the game switches to 50 and then back again to 200.
22:24 <beta_usa> It's a ctf server (in case that matters)
22:24 <luke-jr> #echo what was that program used to edit TTF fonts?
22:24 <armabot> what was that program used to edit TTF fonts?
22:25 <luke-jr> #armaconfig LENGTH
22:25 <armabot> luke-jr: CYCLE_WALLS_LENGTH: cycle_walls_length_help (default: -1) || SP_WALLS_LENGTH: Length of the cycle walls in meters; negative values will make the walls infinite. (default: -1) || WALLS_LENGTH: Length of the cycle walls in meters; negative values will make the walls infinite. (default: -1)
22:25 <luke-jr> beta_usa: try WALLS_LENGTH
22:25 <beta_usa> Ok i'll try
22:26 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft:
22:30 <beta_usa> It still tells me CYCLE_WALLS_LENGTH changes from 200 to 50 and then CYCLE_WALLS_LENGTH changes from 50 to 200.
22:31 <beta_usa> #armaconfig WALLS
22:31 <armabot> beta_usa: CYCLE_WALLS_LENGTH: cycle_walls_length_help (default: -1) || CYCLE_WALLS_STAY_UP_DELAY: cycle_walls_stay_up_delay_help (default: 2) || PREDICT_WALLS: predict_walls_help (default: 1) || SP_WALLS_LENGTH: Length of the cycle walls in meters; negative values will make the walls infinite. (default: -1) || SP_WALLS_STAY_UP_DELAY: Number of seconds the walls stay up after a player died; negative (1 more message)
22:31 <beta_usa> #more
22:31 <armabot> beta_usa: values will keep them up forever. (default: 2) || WALLS_LENGTH: Length of the cycle walls in meters; negative values will make the walls infinite. (default: -1) || WALLS_STAY_UP_DELAY: Number of seconds the walls stay up after a player died; negative values will keep them up forever. (default: 2)
22:32 <beta_usa> :/
22:35 <beta_usa> If i set CYCLE_WALLS_LENGTH to 50 with the /admin command, it works. The wall is shorter. If I do the same think with /admin WALLS_LENGTH it doesn't change anything.
22:35 <beta_usa> #armaconfig BRAKE
22:35 <armabot> beta_usa: CYCLE_BRAKE: Brake intensity (default: 30) || CYCLE_BRAKE_DEPLETE: Rate at which the brake reservoir depletes when you are braking (default: 1) || CYCLE_BRAKE_DEPLETE_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_BRAKE_DEPLETE differs from its default? (default: 3) || CYCLE_BRAKE_REFILL: Rate at which the brake reservoir refills when you are not braking (default: 0.1) || (1 more message)
22:35 <beta_usa> #more
22:35 <armabot> beta_usa: CYCLE_BRAKE_REFILL_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_BRAKE_REFILL differs from its default? (default: 3) || KEYBOARD 118 PLAYER_BIND CYCLE_BRAKE 1 :
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--- Day changed Thu Sep 20 2007
01:14 <Vanhayes> #tea
01:14 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: No online players.
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05:16 <Stewie-arma> herro
05:20 <spidey> i am
05:20 <Stewie-arma> ?
05:20 <spidey> a herro
05:21 <Stewie-arma> no I was saying herro as in hello
05:24 <Lucifer_arma> #m Durka heh, hey, when's the deadline for signups again?  ;)
05:24 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
05:24 <Lucifer_arma> thank you, armabot
05:25 <Stewie-arma> lol
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> #thank you
05:25 <armabot> You're welcome, \1
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> oops
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> #thank you
05:25 <armabot> You're welcome, you
05:25 <Stewie-arma> lol my friend was dumb today
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> er
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> #thank you
05:26 <Stewie-arma> "that's not a triangle, it only has 3 sides"
05:26 <armabot> You're welcome, Lucifer_arma
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> armabot: thank you
05:26 <armabot> You're welcome, Lucifer_arma
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> Stewie-arma: yep, it also has to have three angles
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> :O
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> LB)
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> er, oops
05:27 <Stewie-arma> lucifer... I was given a problem today, 1 + 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/8 + 1/16 + 1/32 (repeat pattern forever)
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> :B)
05:27 <Stewie-arma> I know it is 1.9999999999 (forever)
05:27 <Stewie-arma> but I don't know how to prove it
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> summation
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> use an epsilon
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> then do a little convergence test and see what it converges to
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> if it converges
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> or something like that
05:28 <Stewie-arma> so it would be 1/2^x ?
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> 1/2^n looks like
05:29 <Stewie-arma> blah whatever
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> n=0 to infinity
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> it's an important convention
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> sometime later you'll add an x term for your power series, when you start setting up infinite degree polynomials
05:29 <Stewie-arma> if only I had a calculator that could do that
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> to be honest, I barely remember how to do it from calc 2, and I don't have any idea if what they taught me in calc 2 is what you're doing now
05:30 <Stewie-arma> lol
05:30 <Stewie-arma> should be
05:30 <Stewie-arma> sounds right
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> but I think it's going to be 1.75 or somewhere around there
05:30 <Stewie-arma> naw I know for a fact that it is 1.999999999999(forever)
05:30 <Stewie-arma> 1.75 would be 1 + 1/2 + 1/4
05:30 <Stewie-arma> lol
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> heh, oh yeah
05:31  * Lucifer_arma is sleepy
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> sick and sleepy, and I went to my martial arts class anyway
05:31 <Stewie-arma> how long have you been sick?
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> started feeling it last thursday, but it didn't really hit me until the weekend
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> then it laid me out, pretty much
05:31 <Stewie-arma> awww
05:32 <Stewie-arma> I've just been having bad allergies lately
05:32 <Stewie-arma> probably from it being so dry
05:32 <Stewie-arma> #weather 92037
05:32 <armabot> Stewie-arma: The current temperature in La Jolla Shores, La Jolla, California is 70.7°F (8:29 PM PDT on September 19, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 55.4°F. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011.1 hPa (Rising).
05:32 <Stewie-arma> at night...
05:33 <Lucifer_arma> 70 at night?
05:33 <Stewie-arma> yeah
05:33 <spidey> Lucifer_arma
05:33 <Lucifer_arma> damn, that's cold
05:33 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
05:33 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 77.5°F (10:31 PM CDT on September 19, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 69.8°F. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Rising).
05:33 <spidey> what would be the easiest way to make armastart write to the .log in realtime?
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> it already does, doesn't it?
05:34 <spidey> no
05:34 <spidey> it writes at the end of the round
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> errr, it's not supposed to...
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> how do you know it's writing at the end of the round?  :)
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> possible armastart's doing the write, but the kernel's buffering it
05:35 <spidey> tail -f tremx1.log
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> ah, tail doesn't read in realtime
05:35 <spidey> o.o
05:35 <Stewie-arma> oh crud forgot... I have to go do some significant figures stuff
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> don't leave just when I'm cracking open my textbook to figure out youre series
05:35 <spidey> lol
05:36 <Stewie-arma> blech stupid multiplication rukes -.-
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> wait, do you have the limit operator?
05:38 <Stewie-arma> done
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> ok, nvm, I only know how to deal with that series with calculus
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: that doesn't mean armastart's not writing in realtime, but it *should* be, iirc
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> not much use to it not doing so
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> well, I take it back, all armastart can do is poll the server's stdout pipe at some interval, and I believe it polls at something like 200ms
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> if there's something, it writes it (which does take a little time).  If there's nothing, it sits for 200ms again
05:41 <spidey> hm
05:41 <spidey> if i chaneged that to 0ms would it be cpu intensive?
05:41 <spidey> or even 50ms
05:43 <Stewie-arma> Lucifer_arma: what's an image point? (doing half turn stuff) (haven't gone over it in class)
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> fuck if I know
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: yes
05:44 <Stewie-arma> lol
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> Stewie-arma: what is an image point?
05:44 <Stewie-arma> I have no clue
05:44 <Stewie-arma> I was guessing the point that follows the half turn
05:44 <spidey> ok so
05:45 <spidey> can i pipe the output like i can in bash?
05:45 <spidey> instead of loggin it via armastart
05:45 <Stewie-arma> so you get the center of the half turn (3,2) and then you apply the half turn to (7,1) I was thinking the image point was where the half turn ended up like in this situation it would be (-1,3)
05:45 <Lucifer_arma> I suppose so, but why?
05:45 <Lucifer_arma> Stewie-arma: wtf are you talking about?
05:45 <spidey> because i wanna make some bash scripts :P
05:46 <Stewie-arma> half turns luci half turns
05:46 <spidey> basically, it'll be like a ircbot for gameservers :D
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> half wit
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> you know, nobody here, no matter how much math they know, can read minds
05:46 <spidey> ?
05:46 <Stewie-arma> half turn = 180?
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: and you don't want to do it within armastart?
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> Stewie-arma: I also don't have your textbook in front of me, so I have no idea what you're reading, what the topic is, or any of that
05:47 <spidey> i could, but it'd take days reading about python, then days more of googling, i already know some bash(enough to do this)
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: anyway, yes, I believe you can, but I forget how :/
05:48 <spidey> and reading c++ and python at the sametime would confuse me :P
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> ok, fine, I'll quit asking for reasons when I know I'm going to get excuses ;P
05:48 <spidey> ...
05:49 <spidey> i'm getting tired of switching the languages i'm reading on >.>
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> but it's not going to be terribly easy to set up, because of how the server process itself is forked
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> then pick one language and work with it for awhile
05:49 <spidey> i've went from c, to c# and now to c++
05:49 <spidey> =/
05:49 <spidey> that's what i'm trying to do :P
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> then rewrite armastart in whatever language your working, and go from there :)
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> or switch to python
05:50 <spidey> actually
05:50 <spidey> i tried rewriting it in bash :)
05:50 <spidey> here's what i came to, problem is once you write to the pipe, it considers it EOF and closes the pipe
05:50 <Lucifer_arma> bash isn't a language
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> actually, z-man had something very similar to armastart, but was a shell script
05:51 <spidey> heh
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> I think what you want to do is copy the file descriptor for the open file that armastart logs to and make it the stdout pipe in the forked process
05:51 <spidey> 5th  attempt http://pastebin.ca/703082
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> probably not terribly hard
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> I'm not reading bash scripts, sorry
05:52 <spidey> XD
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> I try very hard not to do anything in bash
05:55 <spidey> fsock?
05:55 <spidey> er
06:05 <Stewie-arma> grrr
06:07 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
06:08 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 55°F / 13°C | Humidity: 88% | Pressure: 30.17in / 1021hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 13mph / 20km/h | Updated: 1:00 AM ADT; Tonight - A few clouds. Fog patches along the fundy coast overnight. Wind southwest 20 km/h (12 mph) gusting to 40 km/h (25 mph) becoming light this evening. Low 9C(48F).; Thursday - Sunny with cloudy periods. Fog patches (1 more message)
06:08 <Vanhayes> #weather red deer
06:08 <armabot> Vanhayes: The current temperature in Red Deer, Alberta is 42.8°F (9:00 PM MDT on September 19, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 32.0°F. Windchill: 35.6°F. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019 hPa (Falling).
06:08 <Vanhayes> #finc 42.8
06:08 <armabot> Vanhayes: 6.0
06:08 <Vanhayes> #night
06:08 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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06:20 <Stewie-arma> blech I don't know how to deal with chords
06:25 <luke-jr> http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=20070912
06:26 <Stewie-arma> "blech I don't know how to deal with chords" and finding the minor arc with them
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> law of sines
06:28 <Stewie-arma> ...
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> or law of cosines, depending on how you're given the chord
06:29 <Stewie-arma> I have no angles...
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> is the circle and its chord on a coordinate plane?
06:29 <Stewie-arma> no...
06:29 <Stewie-arma> I'm just given the radius and the length of the chord
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> and the radius bisects the chord?
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> and its a radius to the chord, perpendicular, not radius of the circle?
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> are you given the radius of the circle?
06:31 <Stewie-arma> "A 16.0-inch chord is drawn in a circle whose radius is 10.0 inches. What is the angular size of the minor arc of this chord? What is the length of the arc, to the nearest tenth of an inch?"
06:31 <Stewie-arma> btw I'm not given a textbook I'm just given problems and told to solve them
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> ah, right
06:31 <Stewie-arma> lol
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> you can work with that :)
06:31 <Stewie-arma> I haven't ever touched chords before...
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> you have two sides of a triangle, it's the radius of the circle
06:32 <Stewie-arma> or minor arcs
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> you want the angle between those two sides
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> you're also given the length of the chord
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> so you can set that up with law of cosines
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> c^2 = a^2 + b^2 - 2ab*cos(C)
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> where C is the angle you want
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> that makes c the length of the chord, and the other two sides are a and b
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> plug in and solve for C
06:33 <Stewie-arma> I'm given 2 sides...
06:33 <Stewie-arma> yeah
06:33 <Stewie-arma> oh yeah
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> yep, radius of the cricle
06:33 <Stewie-arma> lol
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> you're given all three sides, actually.  :)
06:34 <Stewie-arma> lol yeah I just realized that
06:34 <Stewie-arma> I was trying to do it with diameter before -.-
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> that's why it's a law of cosines problem and not law of sines, law of sines needs at least one angle
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> you can do it with simpler trig, but you have to split the triangle into two right triangles first
06:34 <Stewie-arma> then it wont be so simple
06:35 <Stewie-arma> cause I will have one side on each triangle
06:35 <Stewie-arma> tlol
06:35 <Stewie-arma> it's not equilateral remember that
06:35 <Stewie-arma> oh wait
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> sure it will, divide the chord by two and the angle you want is twice the theta in sin(theta), where you use the half chord and the radius for the sine
06:35 <Stewie-arma> but it is isosceles
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> it is isosceles
06:36 <Stewie-arma> that's what I said
06:36 <Stewie-arma> lol
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> lli
06:36 <Stewie-arma> roflmaobbq
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> when you're working with circles, try to remember that all the trig functions are defined in a unit circle and look for triangles :)
06:38 <Stewie-arma> wait luci in this isn't a^2+b^2-2ab=0?
06:38 <Stewie-arma> oh woops
06:38 <Stewie-arma> I forgot 2ab has to be 2abcos(theta)
06:38 <Stewie-arma> hehe
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, and it's not = 0, it's = c^2
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> which should be 100, 10^2, right?
06:39 <Stewie-arma> c = 16
06:39 <Stewie-arma> a,b=10
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> then you take that angle (get it in radians from your calculator) and plug it into your arc length formula
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> right, I scrolled up, c = 16 fo' sho'
06:39 <Stewie-arma> 256 = 100 + 100 - 2(10)(10)cos(theta)
06:39 <Stewie-arma> alright
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc arccos(3.14/2)
06:40 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: 'arccos' is not a defined function.
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> awww
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc acos(3.14/2)
06:40 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 1.02256981753i
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> aha
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> why the i?
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, oops
06:40 <Stewie-arma> whered the 3.14 comefrom?
06:40 <Stewie-arma> lol
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc acos( (256-200)/-200)
06:41 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 1.854590436
06:41 <Stewie-arma> I'm getting 106.26
06:41 <Stewie-arma> lol
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> you're getting degrees, you need radians for the arc length formula
06:41 <Stewie-arma> about
06:41 <Stewie-arma> oh yeah
06:41 <Stewie-arma> crud
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc acos( (256-200)/-200) * 10
06:42 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 18.54590436
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> there's my final answer
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> assuming I didn't forget which number was the radius of the circle again
06:42 <Stewie-arma> lol
06:43 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, i got it :)
06:43 <spidey> not really the way i should, but it'll work for now
06:48 <Stewie-arma> Lucifer_arma, I was looking for degrees -.-
06:48 <Stewie-arma> "what is the angular size of the minor arc of this chord?"
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> ?
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah?
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> What is the length of the arc, to the nearest tenth of an inch?
06:49 <Stewie-arma> but I got the answer anyways
06:49 <Stewie-arma> lol
06:49 <Stewie-arma> that I need radians for
06:49 <Stewie-arma> ^.^
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> :)
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> the math plugin returns radians for those functions, and wants radians for the trig functions, in case you ever need to use it
06:50 <Stewie-arma> stupid qwakulator doesn't
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> it doesn't have a DRG button?
06:50  * Lucifer_arma can't imagine a calculator that has trig functions but no DRG selector
06:51 <Stewie-arma> oh nvm
06:51 <Stewie-arma> lol
06:51 <Stewie-arma> never used it before tho
06:51 <Stewie-arma> "<Stewie-arma> blech I don't know how to deal with chords"
06:51 <Stewie-arma> that means I never have
06:52 <Stewie-arma> lol
06:56 <Stewie-arma> wait luci for chord length don't I use: 2rsin(theta/2) ?
06:59 <Stewie-arma> the theta is in radians right?
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07:34 <Durka> \o
07:34 <Stewie-arma> hi durka
07:36 <MrBougo> durka \o/
07:36 <Durka> :D
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07:36 <Durka> LOL!
07:37 <Durka> Stewie-arma: Are you gonna play in the AFL?
07:42 <Stewie-arma> hellifino
07:42 <Stewie-arma> why?
07:42 <Durka> why not? :P
07:42 <Stewie-arma> I haven't been on tron for awhile and I'm not to happy with where I'm at in situations
07:43 <Durka> "situations" :S
07:43 <Stewie-arma> I'll pm you
07:44 <Stewie-arma> hehe
07:45 <spidey> grr
07:45 <Durka> spidey: dorka?
07:46 <Stewie-arma> dorka: Stewie
08:00 <spidey> ok grr
08:00 <Stewie-arma> @uptime
08:00 <Stewie-arma> lol
08:01 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, where exactly is the delay for polling stdout at? i can't seem the find the right one -.-
08:01 <spidey> Stewie-arma, i can get it to work now, there's just a 1 minute delay
08:01 <spidey> lol
08:01 <Stewie-arma> lol
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08:06 <Stewie-arma> #lastseen durka
08:06 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Durka has last been seen on ~"XzL.Clan The Server 8 hours 48 minutes ago.
08:06 <Durka> lies
08:06 <Durka> #lastseen bizarre
08:06 <Stewie-arma> #lastseen ~ X ~
08:06 <armabot> Durka: timed out
08:06 <Durka> #lastseen ~ X ~
08:06 <armabot> Stewie-arma: .:] ~ X ~ has last been seen on  Wild West  =Sumo= 3 days 3 hours 26 minutes ago.
08:06 <armabot> Durka: .:] ~ X ~ has last been seen on  Wild West  =Sumo= 3 days 3 hours 26 minutes ago.
08:06 <Stewie-arma> tlol
08:07 <Stewie-arma> #lastseen sagelord
08:07 <armabot> Stewie-arma: .:] SageLord has last been seen on |FA| AFL Server 11 minutes ago.
08:07 <Durka> Stewie-arma:
08:07 <Stewie-arma> aww
08:07 <Durka> #lastseen jjbean
08:07 <armabot> Durka: .:] JJBean has last been seen on G-Land 2 hours 9 minutes ago.
08:07 <Durka> #serverinfo =fort
08:07 <armabot> Durka: Wild West  =Fortress=: Players (1/16): bizÅrre
08:07 <Durka> join
08:07 <Stewie-arma> lol
08:07 <Stewie-arma> fine
08:07 <Durka> ^_^
08:07 <Stewie-arma> I wont be trying tho
08:07 <Stewie-arma> ...
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08:23 <luke-jr> http://luke.dashjr.org/tmp/GEOCENTRIC_ANSWERS.doc
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10:28 <eddiefantastic> anyone know if there's a way to get console like output on the client? linux
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15:58 <MrBougo> hay
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17:12 <beta_USA> hi
17:13 <beta_USA> #armaservers
17:13 <armabot> beta_USA: This data is 32 seconds old; Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (8/14), Tigers Network Classic Play (6/16), WILDCAT TeamServer (5/16), ¬| D u r k a  D u r k a  L an d | ¬ (5/16), The Tavern (4/16), SPACEZONE III (3/15), ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Arena {100MBit} (3/10), WILDCAT (3/16), [] Cheers! []  A clone of Norms Place, by Angel. (3/12), .·´®`·)» $ | à (1 more message)
17:13 <beta_USA> #more
17:13 <armabot> beta_USA: w à | $   the clan  W O R L D  «'· (2/16), Bugfarm Elimination Sumo (2/16), PIXELPARTY VOICECHAT (2/16), FR - World Of Experience (2/16), NIXDA.NET - IV (1/16), Motor's Server Of Fun (1/10), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (1/10), "USA CLAN" European CAPTURE THE FLAG server (1/12), MicroBusCity.com (1/16), SPACEZONE II S (1/15), SPACEZONE I [VERY HIGH SPEED!!] (1/8)
17:13 <beta_USA> #serverinfo microbus
17:13 <armabot> beta_USA: MicroBusCity.com: Players (1/16): Butterfly
17:13 <beta_USA> #help
17:14 <armabot> beta_USA: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
17:14 <beta_USA> hm
17:14 <mkzelda> any of you guys interested in this nuxified/cluenet tourney?
17:16 <mkzelda> http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&id=285027 | http://www.nuxified.org/article/nuxified_and_cluenet_prepare_a_gaming_tourney_you_are_invited
17:17 <mkzelda> im sure some of you have seen it already, but its a good time to get arma some exposure
17:26 <mkzelda> so far they have 20 players
17:26 <mkzelda> it'd be good to see the arma community represent for this
17:26 <mkzelda> cause the games played depends on who signs up and what their preferences are
17:41 <Gursikh> Yeah, I allready voiced my support, etc. For Tremulous to the organizers
18:07 <mkzelda> well they need more players, u sign up yet?
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18:35 <noob7> is there anything special I have to watch out for when trying to run an eggdrop on freenode?
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19:59 <beta_USA> #man armagetronad
19:59 <armabot> beta_USA: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
19:59 <beta_USA> #man woman
19:59 <armabot> beta_USA: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
20:05 <beta_USA> eddiefantastic: that was me on wild forteress. My game segfaulted. I just relized today that you and this player are the same guy ^^"
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20:08 <beta_USA> hey deja_vu
20:08 <deja_vu> hey beta_USA :)
20:10 <Gursikh> anyone want 10 million dollars?
20:11 <beta_USA> no thanks
20:13 <MrBougo> i'd like 1 miillion
20:13 <MrBougo> thanks
20:13 <MrBougo> D:
20:14 <Gursikh> http://www.unlockthevalue.com/Home.aspx
20:14 <Gursikh> 10 mil to figure out a way to extract silver from silica-encapsulated ore
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20:56 <beta_USA> you can also prove ferma theorem
21:05 <spidey> deja_vu, !
21:12 <deja_vu> spidey!
21:22 <spidey> http://nuxified.org/topic/multi_player_games_to_be_considered_for_the_tournament
21:22 <spidey> armagetron made it on that list o.o
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22:03 <Lucifer_arma> Lucifer_arma!
22:03 <Lucifer_arma> heh
22:03 <Lucifer_arma> "We don't do triple-dog dares in this house"
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22:54 <mkzelda> oh cool Torcs made that list
23:23 <eddiefantastic> anyone know if there's a way to get console like output on the client? linux
23:26 <Lucifer_arma> besides hacking the client?
23:28 <Lucifer_arma> man, I'm so tired
23:31 <eddiefantastic> if it's not easy I wont bother
23:31 <Lucifer_arma> that's right, we only do easy thins
23:32 <eddiefantastic> I found you can switch the moviepack on the fly
23:32 <eddiefantastic> whilst actually playing
23:33 <eddiefantastic> if a small script could be fed round info, you've got moviepack switching to match the maps
23:33 <Lucifer_arma> ummmm, sure :)
23:33 <Lucifer_arma> you can still do that, actually, but it's tricky
23:34 <Lucifer_arma> you have to enable the client to load everytime.cfg
23:34 <Lucifer_arma> also, server can't tell the client what maps to use, so you'd probably want to embed the moviepack information into the map and have your script read that
23:34 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, mechanically, you have to do these things:
23:35 <Lucifer_arma> armagetron will only use a specific moviepack directory.  That means to switch moviepacks, you have to move the old one out of the way, and then move the new one into its place
23:35 <luke-jr> (or use symlinks)
23:35 <eddiefantastic> well the map name would be enought
23:35 <Lucifer_arma> I guess that's what you found, isn't it?
23:36 <Lucifer_arma> well, you're going to have to hack the client source to make it happen no matter what, I don't think the client currently has the ability to do anything that's needed
23:36 <eddiefantastic> yes, rename the moviepack folder and rename moviepack.2 > moviepack
23:36 <Lucifer_arma> what I'd suggest, if your'e going to do that, is that you add the ability for the client to read everytime.cfg every round (if it doesn't already),
23:36 <Lucifer_arma> output a log file (which people already want), make a toggle for it
23:37 <Lucifer_arma> and finally a setting for the moviepack directory, which in theory isn't difficult
23:37 <Lucifer_arma> you could probaby get a patch that does those things to be accepted for 0.2.8
23:38 <eddiefantastic> I'll take a look, thanks
23:38 <Lucifer_arma> np
23:39 <luke-jr> probably better to target trunk tho
23:40 <eddiefantastic> but trunk can't play online on the server I have in mind
23:40 <Lucifer_arma> why would we take a patch for 0.2.8 and not also put it in the trunk?
23:42 <eddiefantastic> well, g'night
23:44 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: patches for 0.2.8 don't always work with trunk, and vice-versa
23:45 <luke-jr> eddiefantastic: trunk should play anywhere...
23:47 <eddiefantastic> luke-jr: I was thinking 0.3 trunk, not 0.2.8 trunk
23:48 <luke-jr> there is only one trunk
23:48 <luke-jr> and that is 0.3
23:49 <eddiefantastic> Have you taken 0.3 trunk to a server with zones lately?
23:49 <luke-jr> nope
23:49 <eddiefantastic> it kicks you out immediately
23:49 <luke-jr> someone must have broken it
23:50 <Lucifer_arma> trunk doesn't really work at all right now
23:50 <eddiefantastic> the old zone code was stripped out, the new is incompatable
23:50 <Lucifer_arma> we're still waiting for philippe to do his "fix it" code
23:50 <Lucifer_arma> and for that, I think we still need the new zone code to fully support all the old zone modes
23:51  * luke-jr wonders why the new zones were even merged if they're still broken like this
23:52 <eddiefantastic> yeah, it's a shame, there's some new minimap features I'd like to use

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04:03 <GodTodd> Fry the Jena Six!
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04:44 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, are all wal-marts 24 hours?
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04:46 <Lucifer_arma> ah, this one is, good
04:47 <Gursikh> no
04:47 <Gursikh> In texas most are, but you will be sorely dissapointed when you go out of state
04:50  * GodTodd has bene to quite a few states in the last couple of years...don't remember a walmart that *wasn't* 24 hours...
04:50 <GodTodd> been*
04:51 <Gursikh> northeast, most of them aeren't 24h, california same story
04:51 <GodTodd> heh...i haven't been northeast ever...and haven't been to california in a decade or more :)
04:52 <Lucifer_arma> nothing in northeast except yankees
04:52 <Gursikh> darn tootin'
04:52 <Lucifer_arma> I'm going to email my teacher before I plunk $20 down on a cable for my calculator
04:52 <Lucifer_arma> if he wants to see systems of equations worked out by hand, no point in the purchase
04:53 <GodTodd> takes hands to run a calculator...:)
04:53 <Lucifer_arma> heh
04:54 <Lucifer_arma> you'd think we're at the point where systems of equations is something you can delegate just like arithmetic
04:54 <GodTodd> you'd think
04:54 <Lucifer_arma> I emailed him.  I expect him to say yes, since he said yes when I asked him the same question about wxMaxima on the homework
04:55 <Lucifer_arma> I *really* don't want to solve systems of equations on the test.  If he says no, I'm going to brush up on my matrices
04:55 <Lucifer_arma> I found a program for my calculator that'll do that stuff, and also a calculus program
04:57 <Lucifer_arma> wal-mart's supposed to stock the connector kit, and there's a linux program that'll handle the connection
04:57 <Gursikh> there is a linux program for the TI-calc!?!?
04:57 <Lucifer_arma> yep
04:58 <Lucifer_arma> http://lpg.ticalc.org/prj_tilp/about.html
04:59 <Lucifer_arma> but be warned if you have a titanium
04:59 <Lucifer_arma> bug in the firmware, doncha know
05:00 <Gursikh> I have no, no titanium
05:00 <Gursikh> I have 83, 83+, 84,92+ and a couple HP's
05:00 <GodTodd> oh good...my physics teacher extende dthe homework due date to tomorrow night :)
05:01  * GodTodd has a regular ti83
05:01 <Lucifer_arma> hey, send me one that does systems of equations :)
05:01  * Lucifer_arma has a ti83+
05:01 <Gursikh> 92+ does them
05:01 <Gursikh> and the hp's do too
05:01 <Lucifer_arma> doesn't the titanium do them too?
05:01 <Gursikh> no clue
05:01 <Gursikh> never had one
05:01 <Lucifer_arma> er, does it do systems of 3 equations?
05:02 <Gursikh> iirc yes
05:02 <Gursikh> but it's been a long while
05:04 <GodTodd> Fry the Jena Six!
05:09 <Lucifer_arma> wtf?
05:10 <GodTodd> some racial protest in loosiana
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> it should be legal to kill vegetarians, so long as you intend to eat them.
06:10 <Gursikh> +1
06:10 <GodTodd> agreed :)
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06:29 <luke-jr> http://www.softwarefreedom.org/news/2007/sep/20/busybox/complaint.pdf
06:32 <Gursikh> yeah read about that, first lawsuit over gpl violation right?
06:32 <luke-jr> in the US*
06:32 <Gursikh> wait, there are other countries than the US? and they are allowed to have courts?!?!
06:32 <Gursikh> :-P
06:32 <luke-jr> ...
06:33 <Gursikh> That was the average american citizen response for your reading pleasure
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07:17 <Lucifer_arma> first american lawsuit over gpl violation, near as I can tell
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, that line I gave was someone's sig in the slashdot discussion about it
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> I liked the sig, but the discussion reminded me why I quit reading slashdot
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07:57 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm glad I didn't run off and buy a link cable now
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> these programs that solve systems of equations only solve 2 unknowns, and they're dumb at that
07:58 <luke-jr> lol
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> they only take them in the form of ax + by = c
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> you give a, b, and c and they solve it
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> I can do that much in my head
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> grrrr
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09:28 <spidey> /e
09:29 <spidey> /exec armagetronad
09:29 <spidey> :D
09:29 <spidey> /exec -o armagetronad*
09:42 <luke-jr> no
09:45 <spidey> why not?!
09:57 <luke-jr> spidey: ...
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09:58 <@luke-jr> ☺
09:58 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o luke-jr] by luke-jr
10:16 <spidey> ☺
10:16 <spidey> ...
10:19 <luke-jr> ☺
10:19 <luke-jr> ☺☺☺
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13:02 <spidey> lol
13:02 <spidey> i'ma run outta diskspace on the ubuntu partition by the end of the month :(
13:26 <beta_USA> "spidey> /exec -o armagetronad*" <= hehe. Good thing armagetronad is not really verbose :)
13:29 <beta_USA> btw about GPL, there were lawsuit in Germany and France and they win. ie GPL was declared to be valid according to french & german laws.
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19:13 <Sticky_> hay all
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19:30 <beta_USA> hey
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19:44 <beta_USA> http://www.lesswatts.org another great project from intel (after powertop).
19:45 <beta_USA> Now my battery life is 2x better.
19:46 <MrBougo> hehe :)
19:46 <MrBougo> saw that today
19:46 <MrBougo> does it really work?
19:46 <MrBougo> what did you do?
19:47 <beta_USA> recompile some softs + patches (after powertop, i didn't read this one yet).
19:48 <beta_USA> i'm gonna kill my isp :/
19:48 <MrBougo> :(
19:48 <MrBougo> me too
19:48 <MrBougo> lets hack the nuke
19:50 <beta_USA> Hm. Btw, About the battery like, also i used KDE and now i'm using wmii. So powertop is not the only cause.
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19:50 <DrJoeTron> LUNEX
19:51 <MrBougo> oh
19:54 <MrBougo> JOETRON
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20:39 <mkzelda> items on wendys 99cent menu are still only 99cents
20:39 <mkzelda> well duh, its called the 99 cent menu, it'd be hard to price it otherwise
20:40 <mkzelda> and all they did was just put less/smaller/cheaper items on over tme
20:40 <mkzelda> time
20:40 <mkzelda> when commercials like that piss me off so much i will go out of my way not to buy their product
20:41 <mkzelda> i cant say there are too many instances of an advertisement that conned me into buying something
20:41 <mkzelda> but bad advertising will preclude me from doing so
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20:48 <mkzelda> Where's the beef?
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20:56 <mkzelda> http://youtube.com/watch?v=kOEWd_M5m44
20:58 <DrJoeTron> mkzelda speaking of
20:58 <DrJoeTron> did you know halo3 is coming out?
20:58 <DrJoeTron> i was unaware
21:02 <mkzelda> are u sarcastic, cause i really was unaware
21:02 <mkzelda> i thought halo 2 just came out on PC
21:02 <mkzelda> i mean i know its been on xbox for a while
21:03 <mkzelda> but wasnt it just a couple months ago that it hit PC and everyone bitched cause it was Vista only
21:03 <mkzelda> and then someone made the patch to make it play on xp
21:03 <DrJoeTron> yeah
21:03 <DrJoeTron> theres fucking halo3 stuff everywhere
21:03 <DrJoeTron> its like starwars merchandise bad
21:04 <DrJoeTron> i don't even like halo
21:04 <DrJoeTron> i mean the first one was kinda fun
21:04 <mkzelda> heh, i try to avoid things like that and i dont watch much tv and i adblock everything
21:04 <mkzelda> but some things slip thru, like that wendys commercial
21:05 <mkzelda> theres some furniture commercial that has some really fugly dikey chick w/ an even uglier voice
21:05 <mkzelda> just b/c they picked her as the actress i wont buy furniture from them
21:05 <mkzelda> b/c its the annoying crap that stays in my head
21:05 <mkzelda> idk my bff jill?
21:06 <mkzelda> that makes me want to punch the tv
21:06 <mkzelda> the new one where the kid spells out U-G-H
21:07 <mkzelda> thats not an acronym, u can just say ugh
21:08 <mkzelda> half those acronyms spoken outloud are more syllables than just saying hte words
21:08 <mkzelda> and I think 2002 is calling to inform these people of the T9Word function
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21:09 <DrJoeTron> haha
21:09 <DrJoeTron> all i've been playing lately is tf2
21:09 <mkzelda> all ive been playing is nexuiz
21:09 <mkzelda> what is tf2?
21:09 <DrJoeTron> team fortress 2
21:09 <mkzelda> arma?
21:09 <DrJoeTron> source engine
21:10 <DrJoeTron> it doesnt come out till october 9th
21:10 <mkzelda> as in CSS?
21:10 <DrJoeTron> but who ever preorders Orange Box
21:10 <DrJoeTron> yeah essentially
21:10 <DrJoeTron> i'd pair it with half life first :v
21:11 <mkzelda> ive yet to play any of those yet
21:11 <DrJoeTron> who ever preorders orange box through steam  gets 5 bucks off and you get to play tf2 early
21:11 <mkzelda> cause it doesnt work in wine... i get menus w/o text on the buttons
21:11 <mkzelda> so i dont know what buttons to clik
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21:11 <DrJoeTron> haha
21:11 <DrJoeTron> that stinks
21:11 <spidey> mkzelda, wrong
21:11 <mkzelda> no you are
21:11 <DrJoeTron> spidey its amazing
21:11 <spidey> no, you are
21:11 <mkzelda> no you are
21:12 <spidey> i played cs:s last night, in wine
21:12 <mkzelda> no you are
21:12 <DrJoeTron> its so much better than TFC
21:12 <spidey> so YOU are
21:12 <spidey> and i got 50 fps at that
21:12 <mkzelda> thats cool, what version u using?
21:12 <spidey> on a pci 5500 fx :P
21:12 <spidey> spidey@hax:~$ wine --version
21:12 <spidey> wine-0.9.45
21:12 <mkzelda> i did have that problem w/ diablo as well, and i managed to fix it w/ some worms armageddon dx patch
21:12 <spidey> i'm running the latest version :P
21:12 <mkzelda> wine-0.9.44
21:12 <spidey> they don't even have bins for it yet
21:13 <spidey> i got wine running in 9.44...
21:13 <mkzelda> omg you're so bleeding edge
21:13 <mkzelda> :D
21:13 <spidey> wait
21:13 <spidey> i got cs:s running in wine
21:13 <spidey> 9.44*
21:13 <spidey> ffs
21:13 <spidey> i need to goto sleep
21:13 <mkzelda> nope
21:13 <spidey> yes, i did
21:13 <mkzelda> no i meant u dont need to sleep
21:14 <spidey> o
21:14 <spidey> i do so :(
21:14 <mkzelda> i wasnt trying cs:s i dont think
21:14 <mkzelda> i didnt get that far anyhow, it was all the steam bullshit that wouldnt work
21:14 <spidey> ?
21:14 <spidey> steam works fine for me
21:14 <spidey> :P
21:14 <mkzelda> it was half life 1 anthology i was trying
21:14 <spidey> there's some tweaking you have to do
21:14 <spidey> but it'll work
21:14 <mkzelda> oh now u say that
21:15 <spidey> did it freeze at 26% of the install?
21:15 <mkzelda> no, it installed
21:15 <mkzelda> i think, i just couldnt see any text
21:15 <mkzelda> on any menus
21:15 <spidey> might be the fonts
21:15 <DrJoeTron> welp i have a free half life 2 key
21:15 <mkzelda> free for you or free for me?
21:15 <spidey> lemme get it :D
21:15 <mkzelda> :D
21:15 <mkzelda> i called dibs
21:16 <DrJoeTron> spidey can go to hell :V
21:16 <DrJoeTron> no idea who is getting it yet
21:16 <DrJoeTron> i wont get it untill october9th
21:16 <spidey> :(
21:16 <DrJoeTron> when orange box actually releases
21:16 <spidey> actually i don't care for it
21:16 <mkzelda> i have a buddy that got banned from steam for 'cheating' so they blacklisted his serial and wouldnt listen to his complaints
21:16 <mkzelda> he's not really a smart kid, he's incapable of cheating
21:16 <spidey> i have hl2dm and so far i haven't had problems running hl2 mods
21:17 <spidey> so why would i need hl2? :P
21:17 <DrJoeTron> spidey you wont
21:17 <DrJoeTron> because you bought the source engine
21:17 <DrJoeTron> so they let you play all of the mods
21:17 <DrJoeTron> hl2 is great thats why
21:17 <DrJoeTron> did you try fortress forever?
21:17 <mkzelda> anyone wanna play nexuiz? :D
21:18 <spidey> the only problem i have is
21:18 <mkzelda> i like games that are free and run smoothly
21:18 <spidey> steam.exe uses 50% of my ram =/
21:18 <DrJoeTron> i like free games
21:18 <DrJoeTron> but i also like valve am willing to give them money
21:18 <DrJoeTron> because they haven't fucked me over yet
21:18 <spidey> haha i'm using windows 98 compat for wine
21:19 <spidey> steam's telling me if i don't upgrade my os i can't use steam after june 30th
21:19 <mkzelda> im pretty much happy w/ arma and nexuiz from now on
21:19 <DrJoeTron> theres one more game i need to get
21:19 <DrJoeTron> but wont be out till next year
21:19 <DrJoeTron> and thats fallout 3
21:19 <mkzelda> arma was good enuf on its own for the 3 or 4 years ive played it now, however long its been
21:21 <mkzelda> i have a modded xbox w/ almost every game on the hd, from b4 i got busted, and i never touch it, unless i want to emulate nes/snes/gen/psx, or stream tv shows
21:21 <mkzelda> if u count roms theres like 25,000 games on that thing and i just play arma and nexuiz
21:23 <DrJoeTron> god tf2 is fun
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23:09 <ghableska> #weather 50266
23:09 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 88.3°F (4:08 PM CDT on September 21, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 66.2°F. Pressure: 28.77 in 974.2 hPa (Falling).  Severe Thunderstorm Watch 680 in effect until 11 PM CDT this evening...
23:12 <ghableska> #tea
23:12 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (3/32): G5, Kamakazi, ~|DS|~ judders
23:29 <DrJoeTron> ghableska you're alive
23:30 <ghableska> DrJoeTron: yep
23:30 <ghableska> how's tf2?
23:30 <DrJoeTron> absolutely amazing
23:31 <DrJoeTron> i've never had more fun in an fps
23:31  * ghableska will just have to wait till his birthday :/
23:31 <DrJoeTron> hehe
23:31 <DrJoeTron> by that time it'l be more polished
23:31 <DrJoeTron> its still kinda buggy
23:31 <DrJoeTron> but man its so fun
23:31 <ghableska> does it run well on your comp?
23:31 <DrJoeTron> very well
23:32 <DrJoeTron> i can only run it very smooth on medium textures
23:32 <ghableska> ah
23:32 <DrJoeTron> so it looks like the xbox version
23:32 <DrJoeTron> but everything else is turned up including anti aliasing
23:32 <ghableska> the xbox version still looks pretty nice though
23:32 <DrJoeTron> get the pc one
23:32 <DrJoeTron> more longevity
23:32 <ghableska> heh, I don't have a 360
23:33 <DrJoeTron> but man
23:33 <DrJoeTron> its so fun
23:33 <ghableska> I love those "Meet the ____" videos
23:34 <DrJoeTron> they're fantastic
23:34 <DrJoeTron> valve was really late releasing it
23:34 <DrJoeTron> they missed the monday deadline
23:34 <DrJoeTron> by like 20 minutes
23:34 <ghableska> ...that's not much
23:34 <DrJoeTron> they were having major bugs with th LINUX dedicated server
23:34 <ghableska> oh
23:35 <DrJoeTron> so they just released it with just the windows dedicated server
23:36 <ghableska> what's your favorite class?
23:36 <ghableska> HWG? :p
23:36 <DrJoeTron>  it depends on the situation
23:36 <DrJoeTron> its THAT balanced
23:37 <ghableska> :o
23:37 <DrJoeTron> breaking sieges of a billion engineers and sentry guns, its all about combining heavy weapons and medic
23:38 <ghableska> oh, for that 30 seconds of invulnerability?
23:38 <DrJoeTron> 10
23:38 <DrJoeTron> so you just walk out and destroy their 15 minutes worth of building
23:38 <DrJoeTron> spy is incredible too
23:38 <ghableska> hmm
23:38 <ghableska> 15 minutes worth of building? O_O
23:39 <DrJoeTron> and nothing beats running across 2fort as a scout, over the bridge, on to the other fort just to beat a sniper to death witha  bat
23:39 <ghableska> heh
23:40 <mkzelda> http://thepiratebay.org/blog/86
23:41 <ghableska> :D
23:44 <mkzelda> A special thanks to Jay Maris, for circumventing there entire
23:44 <mkzelda> email-security by forwarding all your emails to your gmail
23:44 <mkzelda> account, and using the really highly secure password: blahbob
23:45 <mkzelda> lol
23:58 <DrJoeTron> !tf
23:58 <DrJoeTron> !tf1
23:58 <DrJoeTron> woop

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00:06 <GodTodd> damn...i just can't get projectile motion today :/
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00:49 <spidey> rofl
00:49 <spidey> kbattleship ftw!
00:54 <DrJoeTron> #serverinfo Shrunk
00:54 <armabot> DrJoeTron: Shrunkland in 2.8.2: No online players.
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01:03 <ghableska> stupid power outage
01:03 <ghableska> #weather 50266
01:03 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 73.6°F (6:04 PM CDT on September 21, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 55.4°F. Pressure: 28.85 in 976.9 hPa (Rising).
01:04 <Vanhayes> #weather siant john
01:04 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
01:04 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
01:04 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 64°F / 18°C | Humidity: 59% | Pressure: 30.17in / 1022hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h | Updated: 7:00 PM ADT; Tonight - A few clouds. Fog patches spreading inland this evening. Wind southwest 20 km/h (12 mph) becoming light this evening. Low 7C(45F).; Friday - Sunny with cloudy periods. Fog patches dissipating in the morning. (1 more message)
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01:27 <beta_USA> hi again
01:36 <spidey> hey
01:36 <spidey> anyone wanna play monoply?
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01:40  * beta_USA sometimes
01:40 <spidey> yes,no,yes,no? :P
01:41 <spidey> me and someone else are playing it on atlantik
01:41 <spidey> well, was
01:41 <spidey> nvm :P
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02:06 <Durka> beta_USA: ß ≠ ϐ ;)
02:06 <Durka> o_O
02:09 <luke-jr> $5 shipped a good price for a 3' USB cable?
02:09 <Durka> boo! ^^
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02:32 <beta_USA> I know
02:32 <beta_USA> i choose ß but everybody keeps calling me beta...
02:33 <beta_USA> cause they can't write it.
02:33 <beta_USA> And they probably don't speak german.
02:33 <beta_USA> oops he left
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02:38 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: ping
02:38 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: heh, atlantik :)
02:39 <Lucifer_arma> I've got a monopd server running
02:47 <Vanhayes> spidey: monoply sounds good to me
02:48 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: pong
02:49 <Lucifer_arma> still having trouble with projectile motion?
02:49 <GodTodd> yes :(
02:49 <Lucifer_arma> heh
02:49 <Lucifer_arma> the formulas in physics don't make sense to me
02:49 <GodTodd> same here
02:49 <Lucifer_arma> have you done anything with vector-valued functions?
02:49 <GodTodd> and it's fucking with my head
02:49 <GodTodd> no
02:50 <Lucifer_arma> I've got a way to do projectile motion that uses vector-valued functions, but if you understand vectors and you understand functions, you could pick it up pretty easily
02:50 <Lucifer_arma> learned it in calc 3, and have gotten every projectile motion problem right since then :)
02:50 <Lucifer_arma> want it?
02:50 <GodTodd> sure
02:51 <Lucifer_arma> ok.  You know that velocity is the derivative of position, and acceleration is the derivative of velocity, right?
02:51 <GodTodd> right
02:51 <Lucifer_arma> so the idea is to assemble position, velocity, and acceleration functions
02:51 <Lucifer_arma> ok, so give me a problem :)
02:52 <GodTodd> In 1939 or 1940, Emanuel Zacchini took his human-cannonball act to an extreme: After being shot from a cannon, he soared over three Ferris wheels and into a net (Fig. 4-42). (a) Treating him as a particle, calculate his clearance over the first wheel. (b) If he reached maximum height over the middle wheel, by how much did he clear it? (c) How far from the cannon should the net's center have been positioned (neglect air
02:52 <GodTodd> drag)?
02:52 <GodTodd> v0=26.5 m/s
02:52 <GodTodd> theta0=53 deg
02:52 <GodTodd> wheel height is 18 m
02:52 <Lucifer_arma> so he's shot from the cannon at 26.5 m/s at 53 degrees?
02:53 <GodTodd> right
02:53 <GodTodd> 3 m off the ground
02:53 <Lucifer_arma> I take it that 3 meters is important?
02:53 <GodTodd> have to find the clearances
02:53 <GodTodd> so yeah
02:53 <Lucifer_arma> well, once you have the functions, everything else falls in place, the problem does itself
02:53 <Lucifer_arma> so place your origin under the cannon, but at ground level
02:54 <GodTodd> k
02:54 <Lucifer_arma> so the cannon is at 0,0
02:54 <Lucifer_arma> so his initial position would be 0,3
02:54 <GodTodd> right
02:54 <Lucifer_arma> make that a vector and put it off to the side
02:54 <Lucifer_arma> <0,3>
02:54 <Lucifer_arma> his initial velocity vector is < 26.5cos(53), 26.5sin(53) >
02:54 <Lucifer_arma> right?
02:55 <GodTodd> right
02:55 <Lucifer_arma> now forces.  There's only one force, which is gravity, right?  No other forces?  (the problem said to neglect air drag and stuff)
02:56 <Lucifer_arma> so his acceleration function a is a(t) = < 0, -9.81 >
02:56 <GodTodd> right
02:56 <Lucifer_arma> now we integrate up
02:56 <Lucifer_arma> integrating a(t) we get v(t) = < 0, -9.81t + C >
02:56 <Lucifer_arma> right?
02:57 <GodTodd> right
02:57 <Lucifer_arma> that C is determined by initial conditions, which we just wrote out in vectors.  So we add this v(t) to the initial conditions and get a velocity function
02:57 <Lucifer_arma> v(t) = < 26.5cos(53), -9.81t + 26.5sin(53) >
02:57 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, did you punch those trig terms into your calculator yet?
02:58 <GodTodd> not yet
02:58 <Lucifer_arma> here goes, I'll do some rounding for clarity
02:58 <Lucifer_arma> v(t) = < 15.9, -9.81t + 21.2 >
02:59 <Lucifer_arma> you'll probably need more decimal places when you work with them, but this should be easy to read
02:59 <Lucifer_arma> so now we want position, so we do the same thing.  At this point you'll start seeing the projectile motion formulas you covered jus magically appear
02:59 <Lucifer_arma> so integrate velocity and you get:
02:59 <Gursikh> 42!
02:59 <Lucifer_arma> p(t) = < 15.9t, -4.9t^2 + 21.2t + C >
03:00 <Lucifer_arma> oops
03:00 <Lucifer_arma> p(t) = < 15.9t + C1, -4.9t^2 + 21.2t + C2 >
03:00 <Lucifer_arma> there
03:00 <Lucifer_arma> forgot a stupid constant
03:00 <Lucifer_arma> to fill in the position function, obviously we go back to initial conditions, which we wrote as the vector < 0, 3>
03:01 <Lucifer_arma> so his position function has to be p(t) = < 15.9t, -4.9t^2 + 21.2t + 3 >
03:01 <GodTodd> k
03:02 <Lucifer_arma> so, clearance from the first wheel.  I assume we're given a distance for the first wheel from the cannon?
03:02 <GodTodd> 23 m
03:02 <Lucifer_arma> so we first ask ourself "At what time (t) will his x coordinate be 23 m?"
03:02 <GodTodd> right
03:03 <Lucifer_arma> take the x component of his position vector, set it equal to 23, and solve for t :)
03:03 <Lucifer_arma> so, 15.9t = 23
03:03 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 23/15.9
03:03 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 1.4465408805
03:03 <GodTodd> yeah...i had that time at one point
03:03 <Lucifer_arma> that's seconds of course
03:03 <GodTodd> right
03:03 <Lucifer_arma> so now we want his height at that time
03:04 <Lucifer_arma> find the y component for p(1.44)
03:05 <GodTodd> 23.44?
03:05 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc -4.9 * (1.44**2) + 21.2*1.44 + 3
03:05 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 23.36736
03:05 <Lucifer_arma> sure.  Presumably you're using more decimal places than I am?  ;)
03:05 <GodTodd> i rounded to 1.45 s
03:05 <GodTodd> ;)
03:06 <Lucifer_arma> wheel's 18m high, finding his clearance should be obvious now :)
03:06 <GodTodd> yeah...i can ignore the 3m high starting point because it's already figured in, right?
03:06 <Lucifer_arma> exaclty, yes
03:06 <Lucifer_arma> that's one of the advantages to doing it this way :)
03:07 <Lucifer_arma> that was why I was talking about origin at the beginning, now we can ignore everything else and just chug numbers
03:07 <GodTodd> ok...so now finding max height...
03:07 <Lucifer_arma> so part b is basically what's the difference between max height and the wheel
03:07 <GodTodd> right
03:07 <Lucifer_arma> well, what do you know from calc 1 about the maximum value of a function relative to the value of its derivative?
03:07 <Lucifer_arma> (come on, I fed you the answer to that, really ;)  )
03:08 <GodTodd> i don't remember...been a long day :/
03:08 <GodTodd> heh
03:08 <Lucifer_arma> awww
03:08 <Lucifer_arma> what's the slope of the line tangent to the maximum value of a function?
03:08 <Lucifer_arma> any function, doesn't matter
03:08 <GodTodd> the derivative
03:08 <GodTodd> er
03:08 <GodTodd> 0
03:09 <Lucifer_arma> yes, but what... :)
03:09 <GodTodd> 0
03:09 <Lucifer_arma> so if you want his max height, you want to know where the derivative of some function = 0
03:09 <Lucifer_arma> that function is obviously the y component of his position function
03:09 <GodTodd> right
03:09 <GodTodd> so set that equal to 0
03:09 <Lucifer_arma> so where is the y component of his velocity = 0?
03:09 <Lucifer_arma> right.  Then take the t that you get and plug it into position to get his height :)
03:10 <Lucifer_arma> does it give dimensions for the net?
03:10 <Lucifer_arma> spring constant?  anything?
03:10 <Gursikh> 0 is the best number ever
03:10 <GodTodd> no
03:10 <GodTodd> just that it's 3m high...but that's negated by dude starting 3m high :)
03:10 <Lucifer_arma> what does the drawing say about the net?  Part C is obviously a range question
03:11 <GodTodd> just that it's 3m high...but that's negated by dude starting 3m high :)
03:11 <Lucifer_arma> ah, so we're just supposed to place the net at < x, 3 > and make sure the guy lands on it?
03:11 <GodTodd> yep
03:11 <Lucifer_arma> easy enough.  We know what y value we want for the position of the net, we can set the y component of his position function to get the t for it
03:11 <Lucifer_arma> plug that into the x component and you're done
03:12 <Lucifer_arma> follow?
03:13 <GodTodd> hrmm
03:15 <Lucifer_arma> the obvious problem with this problem is that the guy is just going to bounce off the net, and keep going, since it doesn't sound like the net is going to oppose his x motion
03:16 <Lucifer_arma> sooo, were the answers right?
03:17  * Lucifer_arma recalls that we rounded a lot and could have drifted outside the +- threshold the web app wants for answers
03:19 <GodTodd> it says i'm wrong
03:19 <GodTodd> its +- 3%
03:19 <GodTodd> it's a decent range
03:20 <Lucifer_arma> v(t) = < 26.5cos(53), -9.81t + 26.5sin(53) >
03:21 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 26.5 * cos( 53 * math.pi/180 )
03:21 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: 'math' is not a defined function.
03:21 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 26.5 * cos( 53 * pi/180 )
03:21 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 15.9480981135
03:21 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 26.5 * sin( 53 * pi/180 )
03:21 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 21.1638410163
03:21 <Lucifer_arma> is there a specific g they want you to use?
03:21 <GodTodd> just 9.8
03:22 <GodTodd> i use 9.8 or 9.81 depending on modd
03:22 <GodTodd> mood
03:22 <Lucifer_arma> I use 9.81 all the time, even when the teacher says to round it up to 10
03:22 <Lucifer_arma> he can suck my left nipple if he wants me to round it up to 10
03:23 <GodTodd> yeah...to me 10 != g
03:23 <GodTodd> it just doesn't even look right
03:23 <GodTodd> anywho...i'm not sure where i went wrong on this problem
03:23 <Lucifer_arma> that 53 degrees is the acute angle from the cannon to the horizontal, right?
03:24 <GodTodd> yep
03:24 <Lucifer_arma> it's not in some weird place?
03:24 <GodTodd> nope
03:25 <Lucifer_arma> v(t) = < 15.9480981135, -9.81t + 21.1638410163 >
03:26 <GodTodd> right
03:26 <Lucifer_arma> p(t) = < 15.9480981135 t, -4.905t^2 + 21.1638410163t + 3 >
03:26 <GodTodd> right
03:27 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 23/15.9480981135
03:27 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 1.44217823569
03:27 <Lucifer_arma> that's about what I had before, right?
03:27 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc -4.905 * (1.44217823569**2) + 21.1638410163*1.44217823569 + 3
03:28 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 23.3202289959
03:28 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 23.3202289959 - 18
03:28 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 5.3202289959
03:28 <Lucifer_arma> that's my answer for part a
03:28 <GodTodd> mine was 5.44 and it says wrong
03:28 <Lucifer_arma> does it tell you which part has a wrong answer, or does it just say the whole answer's wrong?
03:29 <GodTodd> doesn't break it down
03:29 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 5.44/5.3202289959
03:29 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 1.0225123776
03:29 <Lucifer_arma> er, oope
03:29 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc (5.44 - 5.3202289959) / 5.3202289959
03:29 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 0.0225123776049
03:29 <GodTodd> that's 2.25%
03:29 <Lucifer_arma> 2.25 %, assuming my answer is correct
03:29 <GodTodd> right
03:30 <Lucifer_arma> ok, part b then :)
03:30 <Lucifer_arma> we're either both right within tolerances, or both wrong in part a :)
03:30 <GodTodd> yep
03:30 <Lucifer_arma> part b is max height, right?
03:30 <GodTodd> i got 7.86 for b
03:30 <GodTodd> max height - 18
03:30 <GodTodd> yeah
03:30 <Lucifer_arma> -9.81t + 21.1638410163 = 0
03:31 <Lucifer_arma> so t = 21.1638410163 / 9.81
03:31 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 21.1638410163 / 9.81
03:31 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 2.15737421165
03:31 <Lucifer_arma> the center wheel is still 18 meter tall?
03:32 <GodTodd> yep
03:32 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc -4.905 * (2.15737421165**2) + 21.1638410163*2.15737421165 + 3
03:32 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 25.829162414
03:32 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc -4.905 * (2.15737421165**2) + 21.1638410163*2.15737421165 + 3 - 18
03:32 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 7.82916241403
03:32 <Lucifer_arma> ok, that's my answer for part b
03:32 <Lucifer_arma> what did you get?
03:32 <GodTodd> i got 7.86 for b
03:33 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc *7.86 - 7.82916241403) / 7.82916241403 * 100
03:33 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: invalid syntax (line 1)
03:33 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc (7.86 - 7.82916241403) / 7.82916241403 * 100
03:33 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 0.393881035278
03:33 <Lucifer_arma> damn close together (note I multiplied by 100 this time)
03:33 <GodTodd> yep
03:33 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc ( (7.86 - 7.82916241403) / 7.82916241403) * 100
03:33 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 0.393881035278
03:33 <GodTodd> .4%
03:33 <GodTodd> heh
03:33 <Lucifer_arma> just making sure I didn't screw up order of operations :)
03:34 <Lucifer_arma> part c then :)
03:34 <Lucifer_arma> p(t) = < 15.9480981135 t, -4.905t^2 + 21.1638410163t + 3 >
03:34 <Lucifer_arma>  v(t) = < 15.9480981135, -9.81t + 21.1638410163 >
03:34 <Lucifer_arma> tired of scrolling up :)
03:34 <Lucifer_arma> we want <x,3> here, iirc
03:34 <GodTodd> -4.905t^2 + 21.1638410163t + 3 =3
03:35 <Lucifer_arma> quadratic formula :)
03:35  * Lucifer_arma goes to use maxima for this one
03:35 <GodTodd> can't you just factor t out?
03:35 <GodTodd> since it's going to give you beginning and end times?
03:36 <GodTodd> t(-4.905t + 21.1638410163) = 0
03:36 <Lucifer_arma> yep
03:36 <Lucifer_arma> -4.905t^2 + 21.1638410163t + 3 =3
03:36 <Lucifer_arma> oops
03:36 <Lucifer_arma> can't copy and paste from maxima?
03:36 <Lucifer_arma> [t=4.314748420589578,t=0.0]
03:36 <Lucifer_arma> there, that's the solution set maxima gave me
03:36 <Lucifer_arma> so I'm lazy, sue me :)
03:36 <GodTodd> right
03:37 <GodTodd> then you plug the end time into the p(t)
03:37 <GodTodd> the x part
03:37 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 15.9480981135 * 4.314748420589578
03:37 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 68.8120311466
03:37 <GodTodd> i got 68.8
03:37 <Lucifer_arma> I wont' bother doing percent difference on this one, numbers are too high for it to matter
03:38 <GodTodd> right
03:38 <Lucifer_arma> when you get under 10, though, a few decimal places makes a huge difference.  :(
03:38 <GodTodd> are those your final answer? ;)
03:38 <Lucifer_arma> I had a problem that was right to 4 decimal places, but it was like 0.0125 or something
03:38 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, that's my final answer for C
03:38 <Lucifer_arma> is it wrong?  :)
03:39 <Lucifer_arma> (it'll be a first in about a year if it is :(  )
03:39 <GodTodd> yep
03:39 <GodTodd> it says it is
03:39 <GodTodd> i don't know if i trust this system tho
03:39 <GodTodd> heh
03:41 <Lucifer_arma> well, maybe I am wrong, but I'm confidently wrong
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03:41 <GodTodd> heh
03:41 <Lucifer_arma> maybe there's something I missed in the problem?  Where's the third net placed at?
03:41 <Lucifer_arma> does it say, or are we safe to ignore it like we have?
03:41 <GodTodd> it only mentioned one net
03:42 <Lucifer_arma> ?
03:42 <GodTodd> 3 wheels but it only cared about the first two
03:42 <Lucifer_arma> wheel, I mean
03:42 <Lucifer_arma> three ferris wheels
03:42 <GodTodd> on to uniform circular motion
03:42 <Lucifer_arma> so the diagram doesn't say where the third wheel is?
03:43 <Lucifer_arma> heh. circular motion is a pain :(
03:43 <GodTodd> A purse at radius 2.10 m and a wallet at radius 3.00 m travel in uniform circular motion on the floor of a merry-go-round as the ride turns. They are on the same radial line. At one instant, the acceleration of the purse is (1.50 m/s2) + (4.50 m/s2). At that instant and in unit-vector notation, what is the acceleration of the wallet?
03:43 <Lucifer_arma> fun, when you do torques and shit
03:43 <Lucifer_arma> I'm a have to get out my textbook for this one :(
03:43  * Lucifer_arma never managed to memorize the circular motion formulas
03:44 <GodTodd> so...find the magnitude of a(p) multiply by r then sqrt(it)
03:44 <GodTodd> a=v^2/r
03:44 <GodTodd> hrmm
03:44 <GodTodd> that'd give me v(p)
03:45 <GodTodd> which should equal v(w) right?
03:45 <GodTodd> since they're on the same mgr?
03:47 <Lucifer_arma> wit a minute
03:47 <Lucifer_arma> er, *wait
03:47 <Lucifer_arma> the acceleration vector is supposed to be 1.5i + 4.5j ?
03:47 <GodTodd> yep
03:48 <Lucifer_arma> trig :)
03:49 <Lucifer_arma> er, nvm, maybe not.  This damn textbook doesn't have many formulas in it
03:49  * Lucifer_arma has 3 physics textbooks
03:50 <GodTodd> so then i get 33.075 for a(w)
03:50 <GodTodd> how do i break that into unit vector notation now?
03:52 <Lucifer_arma> seems like I missed something somewhere
03:53 <Lucifer_arma> they don't both have the same centripetal acceleration.  Does the problem give their linear velocity?
03:53 <GodTodd> no
03:53 <Lucifer_arma> er, wait a minute, you can solve for that
03:53 <Lucifer_arma> you're a few steps ahead of me, aren't you?  ;)
03:53 <GodTodd> yeah :)
03:54 <Lucifer_arma> ok, their linear velocities aren't the same either
03:54 <Lucifer_arma> items farther out on the circle move faster than items slower in, provided omega is constant, of course
03:54 <GodTodd> right
03:55 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc sqrt(1.5**2 + 4.5**2)
03:55 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 4.74341649025
03:56 <Lucifer_arma> am I on crack?  Do they have the same centripetal acceleration?
03:56 <GodTodd> no
03:56 <GodTodd> i got like 33 something for the wallet
03:56 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc sqrt(1.5**2 + 4.5**2) * 2.1
03:56 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 9.96117462953
03:56 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc sqrt(sqrt(1.5**2 + 4.5**2) * 2.1)
03:56 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 3.15613285993
03:56 <Lucifer_arma> that's my v for the purse
03:57 <Lucifer_arma> v = 2pi/T
03:57 <Lucifer_arma> er
03:57 <GodTodd> i got 9.96
03:57 <Lucifer_arma> v = 2pi r/t
03:57 <GodTodd> hrmm
03:57 <Lucifer_arma> 9.96 is v^2, isn't it?
03:58 <GodTodd> #math calc sqrt(9.96)
03:58 <armabot> GodTodd: 3.15594676761
03:58 <GodTodd> yeah
03:58 <GodTodd> if your v is right
03:58 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 2*pi/(sqrt(sqrt(1.5**2 + 4.5**2) * 2.1) )
03:58 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 1.99078606194
03:58 <GodTodd> :P
03:58 <Lucifer_arma> I got a T of that, I think
03:58 <GodTodd> i'm using a=v^2/r
03:59 <GodTodd> so v^2=ar
03:59 <Lucifer_arma> T is period, right?
03:59 <GodTodd> so v=sqrt(ar)
03:59 <GodTodd> yeah
03:59 <Lucifer_arma> ok, so I got a period of about 2 seconds
03:59 <Lucifer_arma> is that fast for a merry-go-round?
03:59 <GodTodd> yeah
03:59 <Lucifer_arma> basically what I'm doing is finding the period using information from the purse
03:59 <Lucifer_arma> the period is the same for both of them
04:00 <GodTodd> right
04:00 <Lucifer_arma> since I know both radiuses, if I find the period for one, I can determine anything about the other I damn well feel like
04:01 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 2 * pi * 3/1.99078606194
04:01 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 9.46839857979
04:01 <Lucifer_arma> that's my v for the wallet
04:01 <Lucifer_arma> which was your v for something, was it your v for the wallet?
04:01 <GodTodd> 33.075
04:01 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmm
04:01 <GodTodd> that's my v(w)
04:02 <GodTodd> er
04:02 <GodTodd> no
04:02 <Lucifer_arma> it's possible I screwed up in a big way along the way
04:02 <GodTodd> that's my a(w)
04:02 <Lucifer_arma> ah, I'm almost there :)
04:02 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc ( (2 * pi * 3/1.99078606194)**2) / 3
04:02 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 29.8835238886
04:02 <Lucifer_arma> heh
04:02 <GodTodd> i got 9.96 for v
04:02 <Lucifer_arma> my a is a bit different
04:02 <Lucifer_arma> ok, our v's are close
04:03 <Lucifer_arma> our a's are probably off by rounding errors, unless I really screwed up
04:03 <Lucifer_arma> so, next thing is to put it in unit vector notation
04:03 <GodTodd> or unless i'm really screwed up ;)
04:03 <GodTodd> right
04:03 <Lucifer_arma> what you have is a magnitude
04:03 <luke-jr> stfu Lucifer_arma and GodTodd
04:03 <GodTodd> that's where i'm at
04:03 <luke-jr> you're making my #arma tab red ☺
04:04 <Lucifer_arma> to put it in unit vector notation, you have to break it into components, which means finding the angle of the original vector
04:04 <GodTodd> right
04:04 <Lucifer_arma> 1.5i + 4.5j
04:04 <Lucifer_arma> tangent, for sure
04:04 <Lucifer_arma> maybe
04:04 <GodTodd> yeah
04:04 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, tangent, and some visualizing
04:05 <GodTodd> arctan(y/x)
04:05 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc atan(4.5,1.5)
04:05 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
04:05 <Lucifer_arma> liar
04:05 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc atan2(4.5,1.5)
04:05 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: invalid syntax (line 1)
04:05 <Lucifer_arma> liar
04:05 <GodTodd> 71.57
04:05 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc atan(4.5/1.5)
04:05 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 1.2490457724
04:05 <Lucifer_arma> heh, mine's in radians
04:05 <Lucifer_arma> not that it matters or anything
04:06 <GodTodd> #math calc atan(4.5/1.5)*(pi/180)
04:06 <armabot> GodTodd: 0.0217999612365
04:06 <Lucifer_arma> #match calc 29.8835238886*cos(atan(4.5/1.5))
04:06 <GodTodd> er
04:06 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 29.8835238886*cos(atan(4.5/1.5))
04:06 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 9.45
04:06 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 29.8835238886*sin(atan(4.5/1.5))
04:06 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 28.35
04:06 <Lucifer_arma> 9.45i + 28.35j  <----- that's my answer
04:07 <Lucifer_arma> I think you wanted 180/pi :)
04:07 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc atan(4.5/1.5)*(180/pi)
04:07 <GodTodd> yeah :P
04:07 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 71.5650511771
04:08 <GodTodd> 10.46i + 31.38j
04:08 <GodTodd> that's what i have
04:08 <Lucifer_arma> we did have a difference in magnitudes
04:08 <Lucifer_arma> I did a lot of simple equation solving in my head, though, which is prone to errors
04:09 <GodTodd> mine's wrong :(
04:09 <Lucifer_arma> don't waste an attempt on mine without verifying my equation solving :)
04:10 <Lucifer_arma> but the idea should be the right one.  Going through the period
04:11 <Lucifer_arma> you might try solving it symbolically and then coming up with an expression for the right answer that you can just plug in what you know
04:11 <Lucifer_arma> that was the method my physics teacher taught, and I used mostly
04:12 <Lucifer_arma> I'm a grab a smoke and then I need to write a paper for tomorrow
04:29 <Lucifer_arma> grrr, this government class is full of whacky short-sighted liberals
04:30 <Lucifer_arma> I think I earned my grade on this forum and am just going to drop out of it now and worry about the test
04:31 <Lucifer_arma> I definitely don't feel like responding to yet another half-literate liberal whose primary reason for leaving Iraq is that "it costs too much"
04:31 <Lucifer_arma> I thought that was supposed to be a conservative argument...
04:39 <Gursikh> lucky you
04:40 <Gursikh> My government class is full of wacky republicans (note: conservative != republican)
04:44 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-216-109-179.client.mchsi.com] has joined #armagetron
04:44 <ghableska> #weather 50266
04:44 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 66.7°F (9:43 PM CDT on September 21, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 48.2°F. Pressure: 28.98 in 981.3 hPa (Rising).
04:44 <ghableska> #armaservers
04:44 <armabot> ghableska: This data is 41 seconds old; Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (10/10), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (9/14), ¬| D u r k a  D u r k a  L an d | ¬ (7/16), Nexus9 (no rubber) (5/16), Norm's Place (5/12), "USA CLAN" European CAPTURE THE FLAG server (4/12), ~:P1|People's Legion ·SealBar· (3/16), Swampland II (3/10), >3D> Eternal Destiny Clan Server ~{DF}~ (1 more message)
04:44 <ghableska> #serverinfo =Capture
04:44 <armabot> ghableska: Wild West  =Capture The Flag=: Players (10/10): $t3alth, -=USM=- St Alph, <<freakful1>>, Irishwrath, ota|mbc|, Rising Flame, serpent{USA}, waffles, |SK ELITE| /, ~*~Teammate~101
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05:00 <Lucifer_arma> Gursikh: well, it's distance learning, so it's not like I have to deal with them in class or anything
05:03 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, so the largest greyhound bus is 55 seats
05:04 <Lucifer_arma> # and achieves 162 passenger miles per gallon of fuel.
05:04 <Lucifer_arma> deciphering that looks like doing this:
05:04 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 162/55
05:04 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 2.94545454545
05:04 <Lucifer_arma> so about 3 miles per gallon
05:16 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 20000000.0/55.0
05:16 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 363636.363636
05:21 <Gursikh> lucky you
05:21 <Gursikh> I have to sit in class with them
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05:36 <Lucifer_arma> so, it would take about 300000 greyhound busses to transport 20 million people
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> unfortunately, they only have 1250 busses
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 300000/1250.0
05:40 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 240
05:40 <luke-jr> 3 MPG sucks
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> so it'll take 240 trips for the entire fleet
05:40 <luke-jr> I think
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> assuming they stop servicing the rest of the country in the meantime, of course
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06:13 <Durka> \o
06:27 <Lucifer_arma>  /o
06:28 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@201.193-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #armagetron
06:28 <MrBougo> morning
06:28 <MrBougo> or evening
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> man, I hate writing the first sentence of a paper
06:45 <MrBougo> so do i
06:45 <MrBougo> you feel like it's going to change everything
06:45 <MrBougo> you hesitate about it for like... 10 minutes
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> then just start it on the second paragraph and write the first one when you're done?
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> (that's what I'm doing)
06:46 <Gursikh> no, start with the thesis sentance
06:46 <Gursikh> then write the rest
06:46 <MrBougo> oh no i never do that
06:46 <Gursikh> then go back and write teh intro
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> heh
06:46 <MrBougo> heh, wirting a text in a non-linear way
06:47 <MrBougo> funny
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> it's a "discuss these characters" paper
06:47 <MrBougo> never thought about that
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> only kind of thesis statement I'm coming up with is so bad, I'd rather write a paper without one than have the one I've got
06:48 <MrBougo> ew
06:52 <MrBougo> rofl
06:52 <MrBougo> these guys who see backmasking everywhere
06:52 <MrBougo> it's awesome
06:52 <MrBougo> ever heard of that stairway to heaven backmasking?
06:52 <Lucifer_arma> backmasking?
06:52 <Lucifer_arma> is that where you play the song backwards and it tells you your pants are falling down?
06:53 <MrBougo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stairway_to_Heaven#Backmasking_controversy
06:53 <MrBougo> yup Lucifer_arma :p
07:20 <tramshed> Im a ninja
07:20 <tramshed> just thought Id let you guys know.
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> then you can't be a ninja
07:22 <tramshed> im so ninja im invisible.
07:22 <Gursikh> Or maybe he said that because he's a ninja, and by telling us we would only *think* he wasn't a ninja ... therefore being a ninja?
07:22 <tramshed> ive got bags of ninja in the closet.
07:22 <tramshed>  BAGs
07:22 <GodTodd> no...that's *ganja*
07:22 <tramshed> ive got buckets of ninja on servers all over the planet.
07:23 <tramshed> BUKKITS.
07:23 <tramshed> 4chan has made me retarded.
07:23 <Lucifer_arma> no it hasn't
07:23 <Lucifer_arma> :)
07:23 <tramshed> haha
07:25 <Durka> I'm alive!
07:26 <tramshed> no youre not.
07:26 <tramshed> die.
07:26 <Durka> =/
07:27 <Durka> #MrBougo
07:27 <armabot> MrBougo is French :\/
07:27 <tramshed> haha
07:27 <tramshed> frogfaced.
07:32 <MrBougo> :p
07:32 <Durka> :P
07:32 <tramshed> I WINS!
07:32 <tramshed> yayz.
07:33 <Durka> #kill tramshed
07:33 <armabot> tramshed will die on 08:03 PM, July 06, 2007 GMT due to being stabbed in the eye by Durka
07:33  * Durka wins
07:40 <Durka> luci just disappears
07:40 <Durka> *sigh*
07:40 <Durka> i come on at 10:25, his last post is at 10:24 =/
07:40 <Durka> #m Lucifer_arma grr!
07:40 <armabot> Durka: The operation succeeded.
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> er, what was the alias I made the other day?
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> #list alias
07:50 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: monologue, roulette, 42, \\\:o, add, afl, armabot, armaconfig, armaservers, armasettings, babel, ball, bigbrother, bounce, bug, bye, cat, cfg, chatlog, check, cinf, cink, crazylate, ctwf, dance, date, davestupidwebsite"rss, ddl, delire, die, die, digg, digitx, ding, disclaimer, do, dog, dong, eliza, eroulette, f, fastfood, finc, fink, fofo, fortune, g, gcalc, gfight, go, goodbye, hd, (2 more messages)
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> #more
07:50 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: hell, hello, hey, hoop, hungary, hyphy, impregnate, insight, ircstats, jesus, joke, kill, killsomeone, kinc, kinf, laddle10, lastseen, lastseenf, legit, lock, log, log, luke, lukejrwork, m, man, mcalc, mfaq, monologue, morning, move, mrbougo, murder, nano, night, null, onlineplayers, onlineservers, pacman, peek, pingme, pingy, piong, poing, pong, powiedz, praise, pwn, q, rape, (1 more message)
07:51 <MrBougo> aw
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> #jesus fucking christ
07:51 <armabot> Jesus thinks christ is a jerk.
07:51 <MrBougo> lol?
07:51 <MrBougo> #jesus
07:51 <armabot> MrBougo: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
07:51 <MrBougo> #help jesus
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> #jesus MrBougo
07:51 <armabot> MrBougo: (jesus <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo Jesus thinks $0 is a jerk.".
07:51 <armabot> Jesus thinks MrBougo is a jerk.
07:51 <GodTodd> #jesus Durka
07:51 <armabot> Jesus thinks Durka is a jerk.
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> #jesus "his dick"
07:51 <armabot> Jesus thinks his dick is a jerk.
07:55 <Durka> lol, crazy thunder outside :S
07:56 <GodTodd> #alias add jesus echo Jesus thinks $1 is a jerk.
07:56 <armabot> GodTodd: The operation succeeded.
07:56 <GodTodd> #jesus his dick
07:56 <armabot> Jesus thinks his dick is a jerk.
07:57 <Durka> #jesus fucking christ
07:57 <armabot> Jesus thinks fucking christ is a jerk.
07:57 <Durka> xD
07:57 <Durka> #help echo
07:57 <armabot> Durka: (echo <text>) -- Returns the arguments given it. Uses our standard substitute on the string(s) given to it; $nick (or $who), $randomNick, $randomInt, $botnick, $channel, $user, $host, $today, $now, and $randomDate are all handled appropriately.
07:57 <GodTodd> #help kill
07:57 <armabot> GodTodd: (kill <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "echo $1 will die on 08:03 PM, July 06, 2007 GMT due to being stabbed in the eye by $who".
07:58 <Durka> lol
07:58 <GodTodd> hrmm
07:58 <GodTodd> that's lame :)
07:58 <Durka> #alias add kill "echo $1 will die on $now due to being stabbed in the eye by $who"
07:58 <armabot> Durka: The operation succeeded.
07:58 <GodTodd> that's what i was about to do
07:58 <GodTodd> :)
07:58 <Durka> lol, who changed it to be stuck on that lame date? :S
07:58 <Durka> #kill GodTodd
07:58 <armabot> GodTodd will die on Sat Sep 22 07:57:36 2007 due to being stabbed in the eye by Durka
07:58 <Durka> :D
08:00 <GodTodd> i wish randomDate had ways to manipulate it :/
08:00 <Durka> #GodTodd
08:01 <GodTodd> #durka
08:01 <GodTodd> #list alias
08:01 <armabot> GodTodd: monologue, roulette, 42, \\\:o, add, afl, armabot, armaconfig, armaservers, armasettings, babel, ball, bigbrother, bounce, bug, bye, cat, cfg, chatlog, check, cinf, cink, crazylate, ctwf, dance, date, davestupidwebsite"rss, ddl, delire, die, die, digg, digitx, ding, disclaimer, do, dog, dong, eliza, eroulette, f, fastfood, finc, fink, fofo, fortune, g, gcalc, gfight, go, godtodd, goodbye, (2 more messages)
08:01 <Durka> #GodTodd
08:01 <armabot> Error!
08:02 <GodTodd> #godtodd
08:02 <armabot> Error!
08:02 <Durka> #\\\:o
08:02 <Durka> #afl
08:02 <GodTodd> wow...at least make it interesting...
08:02 <armabot> Durka: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Armagetron_Fortress_League |--| Results: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=AFL_Spring_Results |--| Schedule: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=AFL_Schedule |--| Calendar: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=AFL_Calendar |--| Servers: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=AFL_Servers
08:02 <Durka> heh
08:02 <Durka> #alias add afl "echo http://durkas.info"
08:02 <armabot> Durka: The operation succeeded.
08:02 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
08:03 <Durka> #afl
08:03 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Hunters Glen VIII, Plano, Texas is 77.4°F (1:03 AM CDT on September 22, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 62.6°F. Pressure: 29.85 in 1010.7 hPa (Rising).  Air pollution watch level Orange in effect for Saturday...
08:03 <armabot> http://durkas.info
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08:04 <GodTodd> liar
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08:10 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
08:10 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Near Custer and Parker, Plano, Texas is 92.1°F (1:10 AM CDT on September 22, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 82.4°F. Pressure: 29.23 in 989.7 hPa (Rising).  Air pollution watch level Orange in effect for Saturday...
08:10 <GodTodd> wtf?
08:10 <GodTodd> no fucking way our temp went up 15 degrees in 7 minutes
08:11 <luke-jr> LOLOL
08:13 <GodTodd> #weather 68131
08:13 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Omaha, Nebraska is 53.6°F (12:52 AM CDT on September 22, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 46.4°F. Pressure: 30.05 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
08:14 <GodTodd> #weather 88310
08:14 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Alamogordo, New Mexico is 66.2°F (12:11 AM MDT on September 22, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 46.4°F. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
08:14 <GodTodd> wow...chilly back home too
08:14 <GodTodd> #weather 85205
08:14 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Val Vista & University, Mesa, Arizona is 82.8°F (11:01 PM MST on September 21, 2007). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 57.2°F. Pressure: 29.81 in 1009.4 hPa (Falling).
08:14 <GodTodd> ok...we're warmer than phoenix....that's just wrong
08:15 <GodTodd> #jesus the weather
08:15 <armabot> Jesus thinks the weather is a jerk.
08:22 <GodTodd> #wunder 75023
08:22 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Near Custer and Parker, Plano, Texas is 89.6°F (1:23 AM CDT on September 22, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 78.8°F. Pressure: 29.23 in 989.7 hPa (Rising).  Air pollution watch level Orange in effect for Saturday...
08:23 <GodTodd> #cnn 75023
08:23 <armabot> GodTodd: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
08:23 <GodTodd> #help cnn
08:23 <armabot> GodTodd: (cnn <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city.
08:23 <GodTodd> #cnn plano texas
08:23 <armabot> GodTodd: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
08:23 <GodTodd> hrmm
08:31 <luke-jr> #cnn plano+texas
08:31 <armabot> luke-jr: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
08:31 <luke-jr> die
08:48 <Vanhayes> #cnn plano
08:48 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
08:48 <Vanhayes> #cnn saint john
08:48 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
08:48 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
08:48 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 46°F / 8°C | Humidity: 81% | Pressure: 30.17in / 1021hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h | Updated: 3:00 AM ADT; Tonight - A few clouds. Fog patches spreading inland this evening. Wind southwest 20 km/h (12 mph) becoming light this evening. Low 7C(45F).; Friday - Sunny with cloudy periods. Fog patches dissipating in the morning. High (1 more message)
08:48 <Vanhayes> #weather red deer
08:48 <armabot> Vanhayes: The current temperature in Red Deer, Alta., Alberta is 46.4°F (12:00 AM MDT on September 22, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 39.2°F. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Rising).
08:49 <Vanhayes> #night
08:49 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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10:22 <Lucifer_arma> grrr, this paper sucks
10:22 <Lucifer_arma> luckily I only need a rough draft tomorrow
10:23 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
10:23 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 69.6°F (3:21 AM CDT on September 22, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 60.8°F. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011.1 hPa (Steady).
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14:20 <epsy> #tea
14:21 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: No online players.
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16:03 <testnick> k the appelet works :p
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16:20 <MrBougo> hehe
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16:54 <DrJoeTron> god damn it whats with this game working less
16:54 <DrJoeTron> now i can't play in full screen anymore
17:00 <MrBougo> ew
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17:13 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: fontforge
17:15 <epsy> hmm i need some help with css
17:15 <epsy> how can we make something show out of itself keeping its normal pos?
17:16 <wrtlprnft> ?!
17:17 <epsy> well let's imagine i have a banner at the top of my page
17:17 <epsy> which's background's 200px
17:17 <wrtlprnft> ok
17:17 <epsy> then ther's the content which should show up at 100px from the top
17:17 <epsy> *e
17:18 <wrtlprnft> so the banner should be obscuring the text?!
17:18 <epsy> but, on another page, the banner's bg is 1000px
17:18 <epsy> no, the text should be masking the banner :)
17:19 <epsy> http://epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539/~epsy/tronicdonkeys/banner-background-1.png
17:19 <epsy> here's the 'big' banner
17:19 <epsy> should look clearer to you
17:19  * wrtlprnft won't ask why your webserver runs on an arma port
17:19 <epsy> because i was too lazy to open up ports :p
17:20 <epsy> well, i could be putting the contents in a separate entity and having a negative margin to it
17:20 <wrtlprnft> why don't you put the banner in one container and the text in a container with margin-top:-100px?
17:21 <wrtlprnft> exactly
17:21 <epsy> but this means i need to have a hacky thing which gives a class to the content
17:21 <epsy> when it's on the front page
17:21 <epsy> since the banner is owned by the content(body)
17:22 <wrtlprnft> well, the banner could have a negative margin-bottom?
17:22 <epsy> http://epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539/~epsy/tronicdonkeys/index.php?c=0
17:22 <epsy> doesn't work :/
17:23  * epsy sees how ACID2-valid browsers are useful
17:24 <wrtlprnft> err, i don't see a lot of css on that page
17:24 <epsy> http://epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539/~epsy/tronicdonkeys/topbanners.css
17:25 <wrtlprnft> didn't see that second stylesheet
17:25 <epsy> i see no access errors in my logs
17:26 <wrtlprnft> no, i only looked at index.css
17:26 <epsy> oh you just didn't read it lol, i trought opera was searching in the top of my dir-tree
17:27 <wrtlprnft> well, how exactly is it supposed to look?
17:27 <wrtlprnft> right now there's the background image and all text on top of it
17:27 <epsy> the top image should be showing under the main text(ie. that error you see)
17:28 <epsy> the text should show under the title
17:28 <wrtlprnft> just remove that negative margin on #bigbanner?
17:29 <epsy> done..reload
17:29 <epsy> now the image doesn't show up totally :/
17:30 <wrtlprnft> well, it's too big for my screen
17:30  * epsy thinks he'ill use the hacky option
17:30 <epsy> the 500 px ?
17:30 <wrtlprnft> oh, i see it in firefox
17:31 <wrtlprnft> hmm, i reloaded once, now it does
17:33 <epsy> i hate things like « <div id="contents"> » argh
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17:37 <ghableska> #weather 50266
17:37 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 65.8°F (10:33 AM CDT on September 22, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 46.4°F. Pressure: 29.17 in 987.7 hPa (Steady).
17:37 <ghableska> #tea
17:37 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (4/32): dorrpen, Killer, ~{GP}~TIRIP, ~{GP}~°RAm°
17:39 <GodTodd> #weather
17:39 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Mesa, Arizona is 78.8°F (7:47 AM MST on September 22, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 62.6°F. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Rising).
17:39 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
17:39 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Near Custer and Parker, Plano, Texas is 96.1°F (10:40 AM CDT on September 22, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 84.2°F. Pressure: 29.32 in 992.8 hPa (Rising).  Air pollution watch level Orange in effect for today...
17:40 <epsy> http://epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539/~epsy/tronicdonkeys/index.php?c=0
17:40 <epsy> weird hack gaah
17:40 <epsy> function draw_contents()
17:40 <epsy> {
17:40 <epsy>  global $category;
17:40 <epsy>  global $categories;
17:40 <epsy>  if ($category == 0) echo "<div id='contents' class='homepage'>";
17:40 <epsy>  else echo "<div id='contents'>";
17:40 <epsy>  include "pages/{$categories[$category][1]}.php";
17:41 <epsy>  echo "</div>";
17:41 <epsy> }
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17:47 <ghableska> hi MrBougo
17:47 <MrBougo> hi #ghab
17:49 <MrBougo> #realchatlogs
17:49 <armabot> MrBougo: http://master3.armagetronad.net/armalogs/
17:50 <MrBougo> #help null
17:50 <armabot> MrBougo: (null <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo  ".
17:50 <MrBougo> #alias add null ""
17:50 <armabot> MrBougo: The operation succeeded.
17:50 <epsy> #null
17:50 <MrBougo> #echo [null [mrbougo]] test
17:50 <armabot> [MrBougo is French :\/] test
17:50 <MrBougo> lawl
17:50 <MrBougo> doesnt work
17:50 <MrBougo> err
17:50 <ghableska> #crazylate MrBougo is French
17:50 <MrBougo> #null test
17:51 <armabot> ghableska: MrBougo is French
17:51 <MrBougo> :(
17:51 <ghableska> aw
17:51 <epsy> you did an "echo MrBougo is French :\/"
17:51 <MrBougo> #null [mrbougo]
17:51 <MrBougo> #echo [null test]
17:51 <armabot> [test]
17:51 <epsy> lol!
17:51 <MrBougo> #alias add null "echo  "
17:51 <armabot> MrBougo: The operation succeeded.
17:51 <MrBougo> #echo [null test]
17:51 <armabot>  
17:51 <MrBougo> "" isnt a good null alias
17:51 <MrBougo> #echo [ignore test]
17:52 <MrBougo> ignore makes everything ignored
17:52 <MrBougo> #echo [ignore test] test
17:53 <MrBougo> http://master3.armagetronad.net/armalogs/log-2007-04-25.txt
17:53 <MrBougo> 21.46
17:53 <MrBougo> 21:46
17:53 <MrBougo> err
17:53 <MrBougo> i already said that oO
17:59 <MrBougo> weird
17:59 <MrBougo> wrtlprnft: what happened to the logs?
17:59 <MrBougo> no log after sept 15
17:59 <GodTodd> since when do the schools let kids buy on credit
17:59 <GodTodd> stupid fuckers
17:59 <MrBougo> ?
17:59 <GodTodd> :/
18:05  * GodTodd just got a call from his son's school that his account is $20 in arrears.
18:06 <DrJoeTron> SHUT UP GodTodd
18:08 <GodTodd> fuck you motherfucking DrJoeSlut....stick the fucker straight up your puckered ass
18:08 <GodTodd> :)
18:10 <ghableska> #crazylate  fuck you motherfucking DrJoeSlut....stick the fucker straight up your puckered ass
18:10 <armabot> ghableska: Couldn't talk to server: [Errno socket error] timed out
18:10 <ghableska> bah
18:12 <wrtlprnft> sec
18:14 <wrtlprnft> apaü
18:14 <wrtlprnft> apparently my nfs got unmounted
18:14 <wrtlprnft> *a nfs share
18:14 <ghableska> http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/
18:15 <wrtlprnft> http://master3.armagetronad.net/armalogs/log-2007-09-22.txt
18:15 <DrJoeTron> no u
18:15 <wrtlprnft> MrBougo: ↑
18:15 <MrBougo> fine :)
18:15 <MrBougo> ty wrtlprnft
18:16 <wrtlprnft> yw
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18:29 <epsy> http://epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539/~epsy/tronicdonkeys/index.php?c=2
18:29 <epsy> does this looks better like this or it would be better plain in the bg
18:29 <epsy> (i mean the contents)
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18:41 <epsy> #help cyborg
18:41 <armabot> epsy: (cyborg [<name>]) -- Returns a cyborg acronym for <name> from <http://www.cyborgname.com/>. If <name> is not specified, uses that of the user.
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18:49 <epsy> hay-es-van
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19:26 <mixnetwork> hello some one n?
19:26 <mixnetwork> in
19:27 <epsy> hay
19:27 <mixnetwork> i have a problem playinf my own maps, local it works if i upload it
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19:27 <mixnetwork> it wonnt
19:28 <mixnetwork> somebody knows anything about hte maps in here ;)
19:29 <mixnetwork> I made on e, it works but I can't get it run on the webserver, only local
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21:14 <Lucifer_arma> flies are fucking on my face, I watch the maggots breed
21:14 <Gursikh> for some reason I read that as files
21:25 <Lucifer_arma> dylscie?
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21:29 <Gursikh> I suspect so, but I refuse to admit it
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21:47 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma go shower then
21:48 <GodTodd> or at least shoo them away...
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22:57 <Lucifer_arma> providing every thing they want, everything they need
22:59 -!- P4|away is now known as P4
23:10 <GodTodd> the flies?
23:10 <Lucifer_arma> my hands are tied, my hands are tied, tied hands set them free
23:10 <GodTodd> well...sure...they've already put maggots on you
23:10 <GodTodd> they should have no problem leaving now
23:10 <GodTodd> :)
23:11 <Lucifer_arma> my eyes tear to your pain, call me liberty
23:11 <Lucifer_arma> it's a song I get stuck in my head whenever I'm suffering some sleep deprivation
23:11 <GodTodd> liberty or liberty_arma?
23:12  * GodTodd really should be working on java :/
23:12 <GodTodd> but i need to go grill up some steaks here in a few
23:13 <Lucifer_arma> yay, finally a dissenter against the liberals, and he/she doesn't sound half-literate like the rest
23:14 <GodTodd> quarter-literate? ;)
23:14 <Lucifer_arma> at least three quarters, anyway
23:14 <Lucifer_arma> paragraphs and everything
23:14 <GodTodd> wow?
23:14 <Lucifer_arma> well-reasoned
23:14 <GodTodd> er
23:14 <GodTodd> wow!
23:14 <GodTodd> multisyllabic?
23:14 <Lucifer_arma> yep, italics and bold type on top of it
23:15 <Lucifer_arma> I want to post in response just to say "thank you for not being a semi-literate liberal, now I'll disagree with you directly"
23:15 <GodTodd> no "ain't"s?  or "they took our jobs!"?
23:16 <Lucifer_arma> none at all
23:16 <Lucifer_arma> the discussion is the iraq war
23:16 <GodTodd> ah
23:16 <Lucifer_arma> it's also not parroting the party line (which is what most of the semi-literate comments do)
23:16 <GodTodd> not a worn out topic at all ;)
23:16 <Lucifer_arma> my sarcasm detector is ringing, heh
23:17 <GodTodd> might wanna get that checked *innocent whistle* :)
23:18 <Lucifer_arma> doctor blaire, doctor blaire, doctor jane hamilton, doctor jane hamilton
23:18 <GodTodd> people just need to get over the fact that just because we probably shouldn't be over there, we're there and we can't just pull out without spilling our cum everywhere....it'll be 3-5 years *minimum* until we can mount any kind of a mass pullout....then move on to the next international pussy :)
23:23 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know that it'll take that long, but I'd like to think we can just pull out anytime, take the year or so it'll take, and the country will be fine
23:23 <Lucifer_arma> but what I consider "fine" and what most people consider fine are different
23:23 <Lucifer_arma> sure, Iraq will degenerate into civil war, but in the end I think they'll set up a good government
23:24 <Lucifer_arma> in fact, I think they have a good constitution, if they can just get the right people into office :)
23:24 <Lucifer_arma> hopefully a good civil war will shape the right people and prepare them for the job of leading
23:24 <Lucifer_arma> but I'm crazy, right?  ;)
23:24 <Gursikh> right
23:29 <GodTodd> they're going to need a civil war anyways...the sunnis and the shia/shiites are never going to learn to get along until one kicks the living shit out of the other
23:31 <luke-jr> pfft
23:31 <luke-jr> because everything requires war
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23:46 <Flex_> greetings :)
23:46 <epsy> hay Flex_
23:46 <Flex_> hey, sup
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23:56 <epsy> Flex_, do you know how i get my visitor's hostmask with php/http ?
23:58 <Flex_> i already pm'ed you epsy
23:58  * epsy didn't got any pm
23:58 <Flex_> ah
23:58 <epsy> guests can't send pms it seems :p
23:58 <Flex_> oh
23:58 <epsy> ih
23:59 <Flex_> but what do you mean by that exactly, like those free scripts you get that record visitors?
23:59 <Flex_> or like a full php script
23:59 <epsy> Durka@cpe-76-81-28-7.socal.res.rr.com <--- that's the kind of things i want to check for

Log from 2007-09-23:
--- Day changed Sun Sep 23 2007
00:00 <epsy> little shoutbox script, i want to check against imposters
00:00 <Flex_> oh
00:00 -!- Durka [n=Durka@cpe-76-81-28-7.socal.res.rr.com] has quit []
00:00 <Flex_> i dunno about hostmarks but IP should be possible
00:00 <epsy> yeah i seen
00:01 <epsy> bah
00:01 <epsy> i just have to hope phpBB logs IPs
00:01 <Flex_> it does
00:01 <epsy> i mean phpBB 2.0
00:01 <epsy> or 2.whatever
00:02 <Flex_> yeah it does, why don't you just make it so your shoutbox can't be used by guests..
00:02 <Flex_> that simply avoids imposters all together
00:02 <epsy> well, i'm not a grerate phpBB fan
00:02 <Flex_> this for turbo?
00:03 <epsy> no, tronic donkeys
00:03 <Flex_> oh, can i see? :)
00:03 <epsy> http://epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539/~epsy/tronicdonkeys/
00:03 <epsy> err this might be slow, that's actually just on my comp
00:04 <Flex_> nice, just don't you think the logo is abit too tall? :P
00:04 <epsy> that's only on the home page ;)
00:04 <Flex_> urm long i mean
00:04 <Flex_> yeah
00:05 <P4> epsy: The requested URL /~epsy/tronicdonkeys/shoutbox.php was not found on this server.
00:05 <P4> :P
00:05 <epsy> :P
00:07 <P4> http://epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539/~epsy/tronicdonkeys/index.php?c=2 <=- this page has displays: No such file or directory in /home/epsy/public/tronicdonkeys/contents.php on line 9
00:07 <P4> :)
00:07 <Flex_> he's probably not finished it
00:07 <P4> oh
00:07 <epsy> OOO WAIT I KNOW I KNOW
00:07 <epsy> arrgg spas lock
00:08 <epsy> lol sorry ;p
00:08 <P4> you should be autokicked :P
00:08 <epsy> yeah indeed it's not intended to be finished
00:08 <epsy> bah...sql syntax, you know
00:11 <Flex_> well just a idea, you could like make a phpbb2 shoutbox, then just link it on the index
00:11 <epsy> shoubox should work
00:11 <Flex_> if you want the shoutbox on the index
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00:12 <Flex_> that way it's loginbased on the forums plus visible on index..
00:12 <P4> epsy: Fatal error: Call to undefined function http_redirect() in /home/epsy/public/tronicdonkeys/pages/shoutbox.php on line 33
00:12 <Flex_> dunno your ideas/plans
00:12 <epsy> yeah, but as i say, the first time i started that site, i opened up phpBB3.0, cfg'd it, then looked at it 2 minutes, then i said to myself, bah, i'm gonna just to it by hand :P
00:13 <P4> epsy: good idea :D
00:13 <epsy> barf it's not avaliable here :P
00:14 <P4> #sty
00:14 <armabot> P4: Chico's Brake Boost Styball: Players (2/8): Lêgïöðnå1rê	CPH, mañn
00:14 <Flex_> I was thinking of doing like a index/forums integrated but then I was left with nothing interesting apart from "news" to actually integrate it with..
00:15 <Flex_> but I like "matches" but i guess that's going to be a much of a gloating for x :P
00:15 <epsy> LOL!
00:16 <Flex_> "We are a group of Armagetron Advanced players which have built up" teamed up sounds better :P
00:16 <epsy> k
00:16 <Flex_> has instead of have too :P
00:17  * epsy isn't that greate at english
00:17 <Flex_> or wait have is better
00:17 <P4> epsy: you're french, right?
00:17 <epsy> yes
00:17 <Flex_> i guess so
00:17 <P4> french and english don't like each other :>
00:17 <epsy> lol
00:17 <Flex_> when did you figure that out P4?
00:17 <P4> dunno, someone told me that :P
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00:18 <P4> like english channel and la manche ;)
00:18 <Durka> log the IP epsy
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00:18 <epsy> PI the gol durka!
00:18 <Flex_> I know for sure nobody in Europe likes UK, but I think everybody just hates everyone else in Europe..
00:18 <P4> #whois Durka
00:18 <epsy> he left :p
00:18 <P4> #plugin whois
00:18 <armabot> P4: Error: There is no command "whois".
00:19  * epsy slaps durkas for obscure sayings
00:19 <Flex_> which shoutbox script are you using epsy?
00:19  * P4 slaps Durka with a large trout
00:19 <P4> homebrew :)
00:20 <epsy> yes, i made it on my own :p
00:21 <epsy> arf
00:22  * P4 wants HAL
00:23 <Flex_> then go get a better shoutbox with IP's :P
00:24 <Flex_> This AFL might actually be fun/interesting :D
00:24 <epsy> how? :D
00:25 <P4> epsy: can't you just log the IP with the message?
00:25 <Flex_> stupid question.. but i can't actually remember if DS were in last AFL?
00:25 <epsy> P4, that's what i'm exactly doing lol
00:26 <P4> oh... where did you stuck?
00:26 <epsy> You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'time`=NOW(), `hostmask`=''' at line 1
00:26  * P4 is gonna smoke some natural stuff
00:26 <epsy> lol
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00:27 <Stewie-arma> #lastseen ~ X ~
00:27 <armabot> Stewie-arma: .:] ~ X ~ has last been seen on  Wild West  =Fortress= 16 hours 3 minutes ago.
00:27 <Stewie-arma> #lastseen sagelord
00:27 <armabot> Stewie-arma: .:] SageLord has last been seen on Fortress Café 2 hours 18 minutes ago.
00:27 <Flex_> #lastseen Flex
00:28 <armabot> Flex_: ¦×¥Flex has last been seen on NIXDA.NET - SUMO 46 minutes ago.
00:28 <Flex_> :D
00:28 <Stewie-arma> #lastseen 42
00:28 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Player 42 has last been seen on NIXDA.NET - SUMO 1 minute ago.
00:28 <Stewie-arma> #lastseen 1200
00:28 <armabot> Stewie-arma: USA|1200 has last been seen on Fortress Café 1 hour 47 minutes ago.
00:28 <Stewie-arma> #lastseen skt
00:28 <Stewie-arma> lol
00:28 <Stewie-arma> #lastseen sky
00:28 <armabot> Stewie-arma: timed out
00:28 <armabot> Stewie-arma: skylla has last been seen on NIXDA.NET - SUMO 20 minutes ago.
00:29 <Stewie-arma> hmmm
00:29 -!- Flex_ is now known as Flex-
00:29 <Stewie-arma> #lastseen durka
00:29 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Durka has last been seen on NIXDA.NET - SUMO 1 hour 23 minutes ago.
00:29 <epsy> INSERT INTO `shoutbox` SET `nick`='epsy', `message='huhu', `time`=NOW(), `hostmask`=':P'
00:29 <epsy> hmm what's wrong with this ?
00:29 <epsy> oh
00:29 <Stewie-arma> `nick`='epsy' is wrong
00:30 <Stewie-arma> look at the message...
00:30 <epsy> forgot something near « message »
00:30 <Stewie-arma> yeah
00:30 <Stewie-arma> I saw that
00:30 <Stewie-arma> lol
00:30 <Stewie-arma> huhu
00:30 <Stewie-arma> #dorka
00:30 <Stewie-arma> awww
00:30 <epsy> it works :)
00:31 <Stewie-arma> what does?
00:31 <epsy> http://epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539/~epsy/tronicdonkeys/
00:31 <epsy> the shoutbox
00:31 <P4> well done epsy :)
00:31 <epsy> hrhr ty
00:32 <Flex-> maybe make it so "Nickname" is cleared on click :)
00:32 <epsy> ok
00:32 <epsy> so what remains is...
00:32 <Stewie-arma> lol
00:32 <Stewie-arma> http://epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539/~epsy/tronicdonkeys/index.php?c=2
00:32 <epsy> the roster :P, the news, the link to the forums, and...the ... matches :o
00:33 <Flex-> flooood :P
00:33 <epsy> and the new tabs :)
00:33 <epsy> LOL!
00:33 <Flex-> who just flooded the shoutbox! lol
00:33 <Stewie-arma> dunno
00:33 <Stewie-arma> that's weird
00:34 <epsy> that's you flex :p
00:34 <Stewie-arma> lol
00:34 <Flex-> not me :o
00:35 <epsy> * [Flex-] (i=flex@host81-158-124-209.range81-158.btcentralplus.com): Savas
00:35 <epsy> same ip :d
00:35 <Flex-> :o
00:35 <Stewie-arma> lol
00:35 <Flex-> wasn't me :P
00:35 <Stewie-arma> pooned
00:35 <epsy> arf that was your fingers
00:36 <epsy> P4, what font is showing up ?
00:36 <epsy> oh i need a ban script as well
00:36 <Flex-> lol
00:36 <Flex-> ;)
00:37 <epsy> ok enough for today :*
00:37 <epsy> :9
00:39 <epsy> Flex-, you can also use the java apelet to spam this too if you want
00:39 <Flex-> na it's kay
00:39 <Stewie-arma> woot spam
00:39 <epsy> k cu
00:39 <Flex-> i would suggest that you make it so nickname and message disaapear on clcik
00:40 <epsy> yeah good idea
00:40 <epsy> x)
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01:05 <ghableska> #weather 50266
01:05 <ghableska> #tea
01:05 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 74.3°F (6:04 PM CDT on September 22, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: 42.8°F. Pressure: 29.09 in 985.0 hPa (Steady).
01:05 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: No online players.
01:05 <Stewie-arma> #weather 92037
01:05 <armabot> Stewie-arma: The current temperature in La Jolla Shores, La Jolla, California is 75.4°F (4:05 PM PDT on September 22, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 60.8°F. Pressure: 29.88 in 1011.7 hPa (Falling).
01:06 <P4> #weather gliwice
01:06 <armabot> P4: The current temperature in Gliwice, Poland is 46.6°F (1:00 AM CEST on September 23, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 42.8°F. Pressure: 30.25 in 1024.3 hPa (Steady).
01:06 <ghableska> brrr
01:06 <P4> yea.. it's almost winter
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01:12 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
01:12 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 87.4°F (6:11 PM CDT on September 22, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 53.6°F. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa (Steady).
01:12 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
01:12 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 87.1°F (6:03 PM CDT on September 22, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 59.0°F. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012.4 hPa (Falling).  Air pollution watch level Orange in effect for Sunday...
01:13 <Lucifer_arma> yep, winter's almost here alright
01:16 <GodTodd> sure is
01:16 <GodTodd> :/
01:34 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
01:34 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 55°F / 13°C | Humidity: N/A% | Pressure: -9999.00in / -9999hPa | Conditions: Light Drizzle | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 16mph / 26km/h | Updated: 8:27 PM ADT; Tonight - A few clouds. Fog patches spreading inland this evening. Wind southwest 20 km/h (12 mph) becoming light this evening. Low 7C(45F).; Friday - Sunny with cloudy periods. Fog patches dissipating in the (1 more message)
01:34 <Vanhayes> still summer here
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02:03 <ghableska> #tea
02:04 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: No online players.
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02:41 <spidey> Lucifer_arma: ping
02:41 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: pong
02:41 <spidey> you know anything about ndiswrapper?
02:42 <spidey> i've got the driver installed etc
02:42 <spidey> ndiswrapper -l detects the card, but i don't know exactly what i add to /etc/modules
02:50 <spidey> nvm, got it
02:56 <spidey> tonight shall be vodka night :>
02:56 <Stewie-arma> again?
02:56 <spidey> yes :)
02:56 <Stewie-arma> I thought you said you barely got drunk...
02:56 <spidey> i do
02:56 <spidey> but hey, it's there :)
02:57 <Stewie-arma> this is like twice a week
02:57 <spidey> ...
02:57 <Stewie-arma> lol
02:57 <spidey> is not
02:57 <Stewie-arma> ...
02:57 <Stewie-arma> fine once a week
02:57 <Stewie-arma> it was recent
02:57 <spidey> :P
02:57 <Stewie-arma> infact I think it has been exactly a week
02:58 <spidey> no
02:58 <spidey> it was sunday
02:58 <Stewie-arma> then it is twice a week
02:58 <spidey> no
02:58 <Stewie-arma> lol
02:58 <spidey> because i'm not gonna start till around 12 :P
02:58 <Stewie-arma> lol
02:58 <Stewie-arma> that's still 7 days back ;P
02:59 <spidey> ...
02:59 <spidey> oh well
02:59 <spidey> i'm short on pot
02:59 <spidey> so liquor takes its place till i get some more :|
03:00 <spidey> stupid amarok
03:00 <spidey> it never saves my playlist :|
03:03 <Vanhayes_> spidey: do irish car bombs
03:03 <spidey> ?
03:03 <Stewie-arma> hayes is he in the republic?
03:03 <Vanhayes_> 1 shot of jameson whiskey 1 shot of baileys and a guieness
03:04 <Vanhayes_> Stewie-arma: no, but the are good anywhere
03:04 <Vanhayes_> anytime too
03:05 <Vanhayes_> or you could do canadian car bombs
03:06 <Vanhayes_> or I guess you could just drink your vodka straight like a russian, commie
03:07 <Stewie-arma> spidey is a commie
03:07 <Vanhayes_> the only explanation
03:09 <ghableska> COMMIE!
03:10 <Vanhayes_> or since you barley ever drink you might want to try jager bombs, the are always fun
03:10 <Vanhayes_> hmm, thats not how you spell barely
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03:33 <Lucifer_arma> haha, oops, I ponged spidey and then walked off
03:33 <Lucifer_arma> that was rude :(
03:33 <Lucifer_arma> sorry
03:49 <Vanhayes_> #armaservers
03:49 <armabot> Vanhayes_: This data is 110 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (11/14), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (8/10), Crazy Tronners Bugfarm Clone with Ladders (8/2), .: Eclipse'd.EC|d - UK Div. DogFight :. (7/8), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (7/10), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (7/12), Swampland in 0.2.8 (6/8), Norm's Place (6/12), MicroBusCity.com (6/12), ~"XzL.Clan The Server (6/12), (1 more message)
03:55 <ghableska> #serverinfo Bugfarm
03:55 <armabot> ghableska: Crazy Tronners Bugfarm Clone with Ladders: Players (7/2): CT×µ4, ct¤ky13, kyle_Record, Sl33py, ~:P1|NL, ¦×¥ W4z0r, ¦×¥buXbaum
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04:11 <Stewie-arma> #lastseen ~ X ~
04:12 <armabot> Stewie-arma: .:] ~ X ~ has last been seen on  Wild West  =Fortress= 19 hours 48 minutes ago.
04:12 <Stewie-arma> #lastseen sageloord
04:12 <Stewie-arma> lol
04:12 <armabot> Stewie-arma: timed out
04:12 <Stewie-arma> #lastseen sagelord
04:12 <armabot> Stewie-arma: .:] SageLord has last been seen on Fortress Café 6 hours 3 minutes ago.
04:12 <Stewie-arma> damn
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05:23 <Stewie-arma> blech
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> belch
05:42 <GodTodd> fart
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> oh no, my stapler's empty!
05:43 <Stewie-arma> not again
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> that probably means someone's been stealing my staples
05:43 <Stewie-arma> sorry that was me
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> it was full at the beginning of the semester, and I haven't done much stapling with it
05:44  * GodTodd hides his neatly stapled papers.
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> it's better this way, I had regular shiny staples in it before
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> now I can put the neon green staples back in it :)
05:44 <Stewie-arma> lol
05:44 <Stewie-arma> sorry I stole those aswell
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> I stole your nutsack
05:47 <Stewie-arma> let me check
05:47 <Stewie-arma> nope still here
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> hid it in a blender
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> someone turned it on
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> damn, I can't finish the rhyme
05:47 <Stewie-arma> lol
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> the first three lines are always easy, because you don't have to rhyme until the fourth line
05:56 <GodTodd> sent you on a bender
05:59 <GodTodd> man...i've been shitting my brains out today :/
05:59  * GodTodd leaves the obvious catholic joke alone there.
06:11 <Stewie-arma> I don't get it
06:12 <GodTodd> sorry
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06:27 <Lucifer_arma> bender is too similar to blender
06:28 <GodTodd> yeah...it was spur of the moment so sue me :P
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06:42 <Durka> \o
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06:49 <GodTodd> o/~
06:51 <GodTodd> #godtodd
06:51 <armabot> Shit, fuck, Satan, Death, sex, drugs, rape!
06:51 <Durka> xD
06:54 <Vanhayes> #alias list
06:54 <Vanhayes> #list alias
06:54 <armabot> Vanhayes: monologue, roulette, 42, \\\:o, add, afl, armabot, armaconfig, armaservers, armasettings, babel, ball, bigbrother, bounce, bug, bye, cat, cfg, chatlog, check, cinf, cink, crazylate, ctwf, dance, date, davestupidwebsite"rss, ddl, delire, die, die, digg, digitx, ding, disclaimer, do, dog, dong, eliza, eroulette, f, fastfood, finc, fink, fofo, fortune, g, gcalc, gfight, go, godtodd, goodbye, (2 more messages)
06:54 <Vanhayes> #more
06:54 <Vanhayes> #more
06:54 <armabot> Vanhayes: hd, hell, hello, hey, hoop, hungary, hyphy, impregnate, insight, ircstats, jesus, joke, kill, killsomeone, kinc, kinf, laddle10, lastseen, lastseenf, legit, lock, log, log, luke, lukejrwork, m, man, mcalc, mfaq, monologue, morning, move, mrbougo, murder, nano, night, null, onlineplayers, onlineservers, pacman, peek, pingme, pingy, piong, poing, pong, powiedz, praise, pwn, q, rape, (1 more message)
06:54 <armabot> Vanhayes: realchatlogs, remove, res, resources, rou, roulette, roulette, roulete, rules, r‭oulette, sd, serverdetails, serverinfo, slap, speed, stfu, stone, sty, svn, t, tea, team, thank, tst4, tst5, tstservers, tyskie, uname, unlock, ur, vanhayes, w, weather, where, whereis4p, whereisp4, where are the noobs ?, whoareyou, whoisp4, wikipedia, wild, wp, ww, xd, ¡¡¡, and ‭
06:54 <MrBougo> hiho van
06:54 <Vanhayes> hohi
06:54 <MrBougo> we should clean up these aliases
06:54 <Durka> but some of them are so good!~
06:54 <Vanhayes> it happens every once and a while
06:54 <Durka> #hyphy
06:55 <armabot> Durka: lawlz of hi5 j00 n00bz ace pwnz or of i in life n robs ccz and moneyz $ _ $ of ur of the makez
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06:55 <Durka> \o
06:55 <MrBougo> xD
06:55 <MrBougo> nah, clean everything up but the ones we want to keep
06:55 <Vanhayes> #praise
06:55 <armabot> Vanhayes: (praise [<channel>] [<id>] <who|what> [for <reason>]) -- Praises <who|what> (for <reason>, if given). If <id> is given, uses that specific praise. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
06:55 <Vanhayes> #alias praise
06:55 <armabot> Ady sucks
06:56 <Vanhayes> ha
06:56 <Vanhayes> #praise Durka
06:56  * armabot gives Durka a cookie
06:56 <Vanhayes> #praise MrBougo
06:56  * armabot gives MrBougo a cookie
06:56 <Vanhayes> #praise Vanhayes
06:56  * armabot falls down to his knees and praises Vanhayes
06:56 <Vanhayes> damn right, a cookie just doesnt cut it for me
06:56 <MrBougo> #praise Vanhayes
06:56  * armabot falls down to his knees and praises Vanhayes
06:56 <MrBougo> hehe
06:56 <MrBougo> #praise Vanhayes
06:57  * armabot gives Vanhayes a cookie
06:57 <MrBougo> so armabot has knees? wtf!
06:57 <Vanhayes> i was hungry that time, she knew it
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06:58 <Vanhayes> #ping
06:58 <armabot> pong
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> #jesus Vanhayes
06:59 <armabot> Jesus thinks Vanhayes is a jerk.
06:59 <Vanhayes> #jesus god
06:59 <armabot> Jesus thinks god is a jerk.
07:03 <luke-jr> omg
07:03 <luke-jr> CAD > USD
07:03 <Vanhayes> bam
07:03 <Vanhayes> we invade tommorow and buy all your food
07:03 <luke-jr> lol
07:04 <luke-jr> what sucks the most is
07:04 <luke-jr> I just had someone sign up for hosting
07:04 <luke-jr> at the old prices
07:04 <luke-jr> (now I need to set USD prices to CAD)
07:05 <Vanhayes> hmm we are pretty much even now, unless you want to count the .0003 cents
07:06 <luke-jr> ?
07:06 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: $2 difference between what the USD used to be worth, and my new price
07:06 <Vanhayes> i meant the CAD is 1.0003 to the USD
07:07 <Vanhayes> at least according to google, not sure how reliable that is now though
07:07 <Vanhayes> hmm what is the average minimum wage in the US?
07:08 <luke-jr> $5.15/hr
07:08 <luke-jr> and that includes tips
07:09 <Vanhayes> wow
07:09 <Vanhayes> ours is 7,25, or maybe 7, not sure if nfld went up with us or not
07:10 <Vanhayes> not including tips
07:12 <luke-jr> heh
07:12 <luke-jr> I've known people who got paid $2/hr
07:13 <Vanhayes> was that an actual job where you get a paycheck and taxes taken out of it?
07:13 <Vanhayes> or just an oddjob?
07:13 <spidey> dude
07:13 <spidey> omg
07:14 <spidey> have you ever been drinking something, had it go down wrong and come back up your nose?
07:14 <luke-jr> ...
07:14 <Vanhayes> yes, beer stings
07:14 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: that's the norm for waitresses
07:14 <spidey> and luke-jr is full of shit, tat's not our min wadge
07:14 <Vanhayes> thats horrible
07:14 <spidey> they raised it
07:14 <luke-jr> spidey: maybe
07:14 <spidey> it's almost $6/hr min
07:14 <luke-jr> if so, it was recent
07:15 <luke-jr> or perhaps you mean a specific state
07:15 <spidey> not to recent
07:15 <spidey> Vanhayes: not beer
07:15 <spidey> vodka
07:15 <spidey> i ended up puking up everything i drank
07:15 <MrBougo> hello
07:15 <luke-jr> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S.A._minimum_wages
07:15 <luke-jr> says $5.85 is current
07:15 <spidey> which sucks because now i can't get drunk :|
07:15 <spidey> luke-jr: that's almost $6/hr
07:15 <Vanhayes> ours is by province, nfld is lowest with 7 nb second lowest with 7.25, highest is Nunavut
07:16 <Vanhayes> with 8.50
07:16 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: US states can have a higher minimum than the federal gov't
07:16 <Vanhayes> ah ok
07:16 <Vanhayes> well the highest in theory is nunavut
07:17 <spidey> gay
07:17 <spidey> tn doesn't have a min wadge
07:17 <Vanhayes> the highest  really, is alberta where no one really works for less than 14
07:17 <spidey> but is linked to the federal min wadge atleast
07:17 <Vanhayes> and 14 is pretty low, that wold be a part time mcdonalds job
07:17 <Vanhayes> 18-22 is the starting pay in most jobs
07:18 <spidey>  a hour?
07:18 <spidey> wtf
07:18 <luke-jr> btw
07:18 <luke-jr> this new customer of mine
07:18 <luke-jr> has 8ms ping to the server
07:18 <luke-jr> :O
07:18 <Vanhayes> ya, an hour
07:18 <spidey> luke-jr: so?
07:18 <luke-jr> 8 ms
07:18 <luke-jr> that's like a LAN
07:19 <spidey> not really
07:19 <luke-jr> ...
07:19 <spidey> what's his face had that on the old bugfarm
07:19 <luke-jr> ok, not really
07:19 <luke-jr> LAN looks like 0-2
07:19 <spidey> ya really
07:19 <Vanhayes> i get 30-40 on lan
07:19 <spidey> 8ms means nothing
07:19 <spidey> because
07:19 <luke-jr> but even just to my first hop (my ISP), I have 11 ms ☹
07:19 <spidey> on lan i get 50ms to my brothers game server
07:20 <luke-jr> 50 ms > 8 ms
07:20 <Vanhayes> http://www.jobbank.gc.ca/ShowJob_en.aspx?OrderNum=3196437&Source=JobPosting&CommGrouping=GAB020&Sources=JobBank,Government&Student=No
07:20 <spidey> when i was on cable, and hosted a server from home,and was 100miles away at my moms
07:20 <luke-jr> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 6.393/9.928/17.257/2.684 ms
07:20 <Vanhayes> thats what a full time cashier can make in alberta
07:20 <spidey> i had a 20-30ms ping on my server
07:20 <spidey> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 1.209/2.137/5.722/1.792 ms
07:20 <spidey> luke-jr: your lan sucks
07:21 <luke-jr> that's not my LAN
07:21 <luke-jr> that's my first ISP hop\
07:21 <luke-jr> tracepath google
07:21 <spidey> to?
07:21 <luke-jr> pick the first IP that's not on your LAN
07:21 <luke-jr> that's the router your ISP has you on
07:22 <spidey> spidey@hax:~$ tracepath google.com
07:22 <spidey>  1:  hax.local (                               0.153ms pmtu 1492
07:22 <spidey>  1:  launchmodem (                            0.996ms
07:22 <spidey>  2:  no reply
07:22 <spidey>  3:  no reply
07:22 <spidey>  4:  no reply
07:22 <luke-jr> ...
07:22 <luke-jr> ok, your ISP or modem sucks
07:22 <spidey> ...
07:22 <luke-jr> tcptraceroute ☺
07:22 <spidey> gotta install it
07:22 <luke-jr> yeah
07:23 <luke-jr> sheesh, what kind of a nuthead ISP blocks tracepath?
07:24 <spidey> spidey@hax:~$ tcptraceroute google.com
07:24 <spidey> Selected device eth1, address, port 33628 for outgoing packets
07:24 <spidey> Tracing the path to google.com ( on TCP port 80 (www), 30 hops max
07:24 <spidey>  1  * * *
07:24 <spidey>  2  * *
07:25 <luke-jr> wow
07:25 <luke-jr> wtf is wrong with your network?
07:26 <spidey> alot
07:26 <spidey> it's problem the borked router
07:26 <spidey> that's now a switch
07:26 <luke-jr> ...
07:26 <luke-jr> what's your IP?
07:26 <spidey> it doesn't transfer anything as a router
07:26 <spidey> i had to disable routing for it to work
07:26 <spidey> = now a switch
07:26 <luke-jr> what's your IP?
07:27 <spidey>
07:27 <Vanhayes> #night
07:27 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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07:27 <MrBougo> luke, wth with your host?
07:28 <luke-jr> best I can tell, is your closest router on your ISP
07:28 <luke-jr> try pinging it
07:28 <MrBougo> n=luke-jr@2002:48ce:72ec:0:20e:a6ff:fec4:4e5d
07:28 <luke-jr> MrBougo: what about it?
07:28 <MrBougo> what does that mean :p
07:28 <luke-jr> ...
07:28 <MrBougo> 2002:48ce:72ec:0:20e:a6ff:fec4:4e5d
07:28 <luke-jr> n= means I don't run an indent server
07:28 <luke-jr> luke-jr is my "real name" value
07:28 <spidey> ipv6 ip
07:28 <MrBougo> argh, thats ipv§?
07:28 <MrBougo> v6*
07:28 <luke-jr> 2002:48ce:72ec:0:20e:a6ff:fec4:4e5d is my IP address
07:28 <spidey> luke-jr: this?
07:28 <spidey> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.519/0.564/0.731/0.049 ms
07:28 <MrBougo> ewww, these ipv6 addresses are ugly
07:28 <luke-jr> spidey: O.o
07:28 <luke-jr> spidey: nice
07:29 <luke-jr> MrBougo: wtf do you think God made DNS for?
07:29 <luke-jr> ☺
07:29 <spidey> 64 bytes from icmp_seq=15 ttl=64 time=0.588 ms
07:29 <spidey> 64 bytes from icmp_seq=16 ttl=64 time=0.599 ms
07:29 <spidey> :)
07:29 <luke-jr> MrBougo: ping6 yokochan.dashjr.org
07:29 <luke-jr> spidey: maybe DSL > Cable there ;P
07:30 <spidey> spidey@hax:~$ ping6 yokochan.dashjr.org
07:30 <spidey> connect: Network is unreachable
07:30 <MrBougo> indeed
07:30 <luke-jr> I got 7-8 ms just to my default gateway
07:31 <luke-jr> spidey: that means your IPv6 is broken :p
07:31 <luke-jr> dig AAAA yokochan.dashjr.org
07:31 <MrBougo>
07:31 <spidey> ;; Query time: 161 msec
07:31 <spidey> lame
07:32 <Stewie-arma> stop that incessant chattering
07:32 <spidey> i'm not incest stewie :|
07:32 <MrBougo> lol Stewie-arma
07:32 <MrBougo> luke-jr: do you have an ipv4 address too?
07:32 <MrBougo> ?
07:35 <MrBougo> i've never wondered how ipv6 can live with ipv4
07:36 <spidey> tunneling?
07:43 <luke-jr> MrBougo: yes
07:44 <luke-jr> why wouldn't IPv6 and IPv4 work on the same wire?
07:44 <luke-jr> MrBougo: you forgot the 'AAAA' part
07:51 <MrBougo> AAAA,
07:51 <MrBougo> ?*
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08:55 <epsy> bah
08:55 <epsy> can't sleep
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09:02 <luke-jr> MrBougo: dig AAAA yokochan.dashjr.org
09:02 <luke-jr> the AAAA is required to get the right result
09:03 <MrBougo> i used an online tool
09:03 <MrBougo> remember that im a lame winuser
09:03 <luke-jr> lame
09:03 <MrBougo> but ima get a dell vostro in 2 weeks
09:03 <MrBougo> install 2 kubuntu
09:03 <MrBougo> one testing :p
09:03 <luke-jr> what's that?
09:03 <MrBougo> and one windows
09:03 <MrBougo> dell vostro?
09:03 <luke-jr> lame
09:03 <luke-jr> yes
09:03 <MrBougo> it's a dell computer :p
09:03 <luke-jr> o
09:03 <luke-jr> one they support Ubuntu on?
09:04 <MrBougo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vostro
09:04 <MrBougo> nope
09:04  * epsy sneezes
09:04 <MrBougo> the ubuntu laptops dont have 17" screens
09:04 <luke-jr> so ... you'll stay a windozeluser I guess
09:04 <MrBougo> epsy: i know, lenovo, blahblah
09:04 <luke-jr> Lenovo sucks too
09:04 <MrBougo> luke-jr: it will be in absolute need
09:04 <epsy> i really sneezed
09:04 <luke-jr> MrBougo: nah
09:04 <luke-jr> MrBougo: Ubuntu is really picky about hardware
09:04 <luke-jr> it probably doesn't *support* 17" screens
09:04 <MrBougo> i will remove the partition when i'l fully understand linux :p
09:05 <MrBougo> not fully but
09:05 <MrBougo> heh, it does
09:05 <MrBougo> ...
09:05 <epsy> MrBougo, ah, i just need a windwos user
09:05 <MrBougo> they've had tons of releases since 17" screens exist
09:05 <epsy> what font(s) do you see there: http://epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539/~epsy/tronicdonkeys/
09:05 <MrBougo> epsy: ?
09:05 <luke-jr> MrBougo: http://www.hscripts.com/tools/HDNT/dns-record.php
09:05 <MrBougo> arial epsy oO
09:06 <MrBougo> oh nicie luke-jr
09:06 <epsy> ok
09:06  * MrBougo bookmarks
09:06 <epsy> no, that's not a perm. site
09:06 <epsy> bah
09:06 <luke-jr> MrBougo: btw, Vostro seems to be totally untested on any Linux :p
09:06 <epsy> XD
09:06 <MrBougo> i saw some guys
09:06 <MrBougo> they installed linux on it with no problem
09:07 <MrBougo> it uses the same hardware as inspiron
09:07 <luke-jr> what model
09:07 <epsy> i hope for you that's true
09:07 <luke-jr> I have yet to find a PC that Ubuntu boots on :p
09:07 <MrBougo> dont remember
09:07 <MrBougo> it boots :/
09:07 <luke-jr> 1700 is 17"
09:08 <MrBougo> yup
09:08 <MrBougo> i think its this one
09:08 <luke-jr> be careful you only get "Standard Features"
09:09 <MrBougo> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=521753
09:09 <MrBougo> and what are the advanced features?
09:11 <luke-jr> or rather, just make sure you stick with the Intel GMA X3100
09:11 <MrBougo> ?
09:11 <luke-jr> and probably not get the Wireless-N feature
09:11 <MrBougo> i dont need wireless N
09:11 <MrBougo> g is enough for me
09:11 <luke-jr> might want to research the 'G' ones to see which are supported
09:11 <luke-jr> Dell hides the real card type
09:12 <MrBougo> ?
09:14 <luke-jr> $2034 if I customized it :p
09:15 <MrBougo> ew
09:15 <MrBougo> which one?
09:15 <luke-jr> ?
09:15 <luke-jr> 1700
09:15 <MrBougo> you took some hardcore game laptop and added tons of memory?
09:15 <luke-jr> the laptop you're looking at, customized
09:15 <MrBougo> checked all the accesories checkboxes
09:15 <luke-jr> Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T7250 (2.0GHz/800Mhz FSB/2MB cache)
09:15 <luke-jr> 4GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz, 2 DIMM
09:15 <luke-jr> DUAL HARD DRIVES, 320G (2x 160) 5400RPM SATA hard drive
09:15 <luke-jr> 8X CD/DVD Burner w/ double-layer DVD+R write capability
09:15 <luke-jr> Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator X3100
09:15 <luke-jr> Dell Wireless 1390 802.11g Wi-Fi Mini Card
09:16 <luke-jr> Dell Wireless 355 Bluetooth Internal (2.0 + Enhanced Data Rate), Vista
09:16 <luke-jr> Integrated 2.0 mega pixel Web Camera
09:16 <luke-jr> Integrated High Definition Audio
09:16 <luke-jr> 85 WHr 9-cell Lithium Ion Primary Battery
09:16 <MrBougo> hehe
09:16 <luke-jr> ☺
09:16 <MrBougo> i prefer a nvidia graphics
09:16 <luke-jr> ew
09:16 <luke-jr> 2D only
09:17 <MrBougo> ?
09:17 <luke-jr> nVidia is 2D in Linux
09:17 <MrBougo> :/
09:17 <luke-jr> Intel is *the* best ☺
09:17 <epsy> well
09:17 <MrBougo> yea
09:17 <luke-jr> epsy: stfu
09:17 <MrBougo> but nvidia isnt 2D
09:17 <epsy> some of them are the best
09:17 <luke-jr> it is in Linux
09:17 <epsy> like mine ^^
09:18 <epsy> man, 30 fps with 'normal' settings
09:18 <MrBougo> proof it luke-jr
09:18 <luke-jr> MrBougo: ...
09:18 <epsy> is that « good » ?
09:18 <MrBougo> hehe
09:18 <epsy> but i guess an i945 is way better
09:18 <epsy> but this time i want to see it from my eyes
09:19 <luke-jr> MrBougo: http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/
09:19 <luke-jr> MrBougo: that's the experimental in-development 3D support
09:19 <luke-jr> I don't think it works yet
09:19 <MrBougo> yea right
09:19 <luke-jr> 'Currently, there is some kind of 2D-support, and a very limited 3D support for extremely lucky developers'
09:19 <MrBougo> i had a nvidia card
09:19 <MrBougo> kind of old
09:19 <MrBougo> installed ubuntu to test
09:19 <MrBougo> and played that lame tux-in-the-snow game
09:19 <MrBougo> in 3D
09:20 <luke-jr> obviously 3D can use software if the card lacks suppotr
09:21 <luke-jr> actually, I don't think the latest Ubuntus are really Linux anymore
09:21 <luke-jr> they might have switched to the popular and illegal pseudo-Linux
09:21 <luke-jr> which does have 3D support for nVidia
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09:22 <MrBougo> bah luke you're boring
09:22 <luke-jr> MrBougo: ...
09:22 <luke-jr> IGP!
09:22 <MrBougo> ok, 'ill keep windows
09:22 <MrBougo> you won!
09:22 <MrBougo> one more win user!
09:22 <MrBougo> (i guess nvidia supports 3D accel with windows)
09:23 <luke-jr> but anything with Windows sucks
09:23 <luke-jr> :p
09:23 <MrBougo> hehe
09:23 <luke-jr> and spidey claims his illegal pseudo-Linux with nVidia has better performance than Windows did :p
09:23 <luke-jr> but IGP is the win
09:24 <luke-jr> "I recently went through the pain of loading UBUNTU on a Dell Vostro 1700"
09:24 <luke-jr> :p
09:24 <MrBougo> now hes trying to make me use ubuntu
09:24 <luke-jr> nah
09:24 <luke-jr> use Gentoo
09:24 <luke-jr> :p
09:24 <MrBougo> how many ISOs?
09:24 <luke-jr> uh
09:24 <luke-jr> 0-1
09:24 <luke-jr> if you need one, it'd be about 50 MB
09:25 <luke-jr> http://distfiles.gentoo.org/releases/amd64/2007.0/installcd/install-amd64-minimal-2007.0.iso
09:25 <luke-jr> 55 MB
09:25 <luke-jr> but if you already have a recent LiveCD, like an Ubuntu disc, that can work too ☺
09:27  * luke-jr pokes MrBougo
09:27 <luke-jr> he's in shock?
09:27 <luke-jr> or just doing some homework?
09:27 <MrBougo> or both
09:27 <MrBougo> nah im reading docs
09:28 <MrBougo> about the vostro and ubuntu
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09:28 <MrBougo> and it's less complicated than compiling arma
09:28 <MrBougo> oh wait that was a bad example
09:28 <luke-jr> lol
09:28 <MrBougo> j/k
09:28 <MrBougo> except on windows
09:28 <MrBougo> i once wanted to try
09:28 <luke-jr> HAHAHA
09:28 <MrBougo> i needed libs and libs and libs
09:29 <luke-jr> building Arma on Windows has to be a nightmare
09:29 <MrBougo> IT IS
09:29 <luke-jr> well, you have the libs thing on most Linux-based OS too
09:29 <MrBougo> i know
09:29 <MrBougo> linux rocks for dev
09:29 <luke-jr> err
09:29 <MrBougo> not only for dev
09:29 <luke-jr> what I'm saying is
09:29 <luke-jr> on ubuntu
09:29 <luke-jr> you'd need to get libs, and lib, and libs
09:29 <luke-jr> just like Windows
09:29 <MrBougo> i dont want to compile arma
09:29 <luke-jr> :p
09:30 <MrBougo> so what, i should use slackware as my first linux experience?
09:30 <luke-jr> no
09:30 <luke-jr> Gentoo
09:30 <MrBougo> :p
09:30 <DStar> indeed
09:30 <luke-jr> Gentoo is great for beginners
09:30 <epsy>  LOL!
09:30 <DStar> gentoo is great for everyone
09:30 <MrBougo> except me
09:30 <luke-jr> even if you move on to something else later
09:30 <MrBougo> ok luke, i'll try gentoo
09:30 <luke-jr> MrBougo: k, IM me if you have any questions
09:31 <luke-jr> if you use your Ubuntu LiveCD, I presume you have IM and IRC available if you need them
09:31 <luke-jr> so that's probably the best way to install
09:31 <luke-jr> like spidey did
09:31 <MrBougo> i have a desktop computer too heh
09:31 <luke-jr> o
09:31 <MrBougo> i wont shut it down :p
09:31 <luke-jr> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-amd64.xml?full=1
09:31 <luke-jr> that's the manual
09:32 <MrBougo> amd64?
09:32 <luke-jr> replace w/ x86 if yours is old
09:32 <luke-jr> Core 2 Duo would do amd64 tho
09:32 <MrBougo> old?
09:32 <MrBougo> wtf old
09:32 <MrBougo> lol
09:32 <luke-jr> lol
09:32 <MrBougo> oh nvm
09:32 <MrBougo> it's old
09:32 <luke-jr> my 3 year old system is amd64
09:32 <MrBougo> pentium 4 yuck
09:32 <luke-jr> EWW
09:33 <MrBougo> i think this one is 5-old
09:33 <DStar> ow xD
09:33 <MrBougo> THAT HURT
09:33 <luke-jr> amd64 might work, but DONT TRY IT
09:33 <MrBougo> err
09:33 <luke-jr> Pentium 4 ran 64-bit SLOW
09:33 <DStar> really?
09:33 <DStar> omfg...
09:33 <MrBougo> wait, im not talking about installing gentoo on my desktop pc
09:33 <MrBougo> my laptop will have a cor 2 duo, is it AMD64 too?
09:33 <MrBougo> i mean
09:33 <MrBougo> i know it isnt AMD
09:34 <DStar> but it's the same arch as an amd64
09:34 <MrBougo> The Core 2 brand refers to a range of Intel's consumer dual-core and quad-core (2x2) 64-bit x86-64 CPUs based on the Intel Core microarchitecture, which derived from the 32-bit dual-core Yonah laptop processor.
09:34 <MrBougo> mh
09:34 <MrBougo> seems to be x86
09:35 <luke-jr> Core2Duo should be fine for 64-bit
09:35 <DStar> core 2 is amd64
09:35 <MrBougo> how did spidey install his gentoo, luke-jr ?
09:35 <luke-jr> MrBougo: Ubuntu LiveCD
09:35 <MrBougo> wikipedia says that its x86
09:35 <MrBougo> so you can install gentoo from a ub livecd?
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09:36 <MrBougo> oh, i spelled "lovecd" on google
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09:37 <DStar> lol xD
09:37 <luke-jr> MrBougo: yes
09:37 <luke-jr> tho
09:37 <MrBougo> how do you do that
09:37 <luke-jr> amd64 Gentoo requires amd64 LiveCD too
09:37 <MrBougo> hehe
09:38 <DStar> or at least the kernel has to be amd64
09:38 <MrBougo> i have a kubuntu x86 livecd
09:38 <luke-jr> MrBougo: open a console and do the install
09:38 <luke-jr> ☺
09:38 <MrBougo> oh, thank you for your help, luke
09:38 <luke-jr> DStar: true
09:38 <luke-jr> MrBougo: did you rtfm? :P
09:38 <MrBougo> tfmygtm?
09:38 <luke-jr> ???
09:38 <MrBougo> it doesnt talk about isntalling from another livecd
09:39 <luke-jr> o
09:39 <DStar> because there is no actual difference
09:39 <luke-jr> DStar: yes there is
09:39 <luke-jr> 1 minor thing
09:39 <DStar> oh?
09:39 <luke-jr> you need to skip steps 1-3 :p
09:39 <DStar> /mnt/gentoo not exist?
09:39 <luke-jr> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1#book_part1_chap4
09:40 <luke-jr> that too, but mkdir is easy
09:40 <DStar> and it doesn't have to be /mnt/gentoo
09:40 <luke-jr> no
09:40 <luke-jr> I usually use /mnt/g
09:40 <DStar> i use whatever is there
09:40 <DStar> on the install that i'm currently doing it's /mnt/gentoo
09:40 <luke-jr> I don't really follow the manual strictly :p
09:40 <luke-jr> mount -t proc{,,} <-- fun
09:41 <DStar> what does the {,,} do?
09:41 <luke-jr> here's a hint:
09:41 <luke-jr> mv file{1,2,3,4} dir
09:41 <luke-jr> expands to:
09:41 <luke-jr> mv file1 file2 file3 file4 dir
09:41 <DStar> ah
09:41 <DStar> :D
09:42 <luke-jr> MrBougo: you should follow the manual strictly tho :p
09:42 <DStar> gotta see if my ultra 10 is all right
09:42 <luke-jr> wtf?
09:42 <luke-jr> speaking of which, I have 2 MIPS servers to mess with someitme
09:42 <DStar> i have 2 ultra 10s :P
09:42 <luke-jr> what arch?
09:42 <DStar> ultrasparc
09:43 <luke-jr> o
09:43 <DStar> http://dstar.ch/phpsysinfo
09:43 <luke-jr> trade you a MIPS for one
09:43 <luke-jr> I live diverse archs
09:43 <DStar> this is one of them
09:43 <DStar> and the other one is on bootstrap.sh atm
09:44 <luke-jr> heh
09:44 <luke-jr> I don't know how to install on my MIPS ones yet
09:44 <luke-jr> wait
09:44 <luke-jr> does SPARC still use stage1??
09:44 <DStar> i am doing a stage 1
09:44 <luke-jr> most Gentoo doesn't support stage1 anymore..
09:45 <DStar> i just do it anyway
09:45 <DStar> :P
09:45 <luke-jr> ...
09:45 <luke-jr> pointless
09:45 <luke-jr> hm
09:45 <luke-jr> I think I didn't shake the milk good enough ☹
09:45 <DStar> how off-topic xD
09:45 <DStar> but speaking of which... brb
09:46 <luke-jr> I'm not used to weird texture
09:46 <luke-jr> or whatever it is floating on top
09:46 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: wb
09:48 <DStar> i've got the feeling that something is wrong with the ultra 10
09:48 <DStar> again
09:48 <DStar> (the one i'm currently installing)
09:48 <DStar> can't ping it nomore :S
09:48 <MrBougo> mh
09:48 <luke-jr> :o
09:49 <DStar> that's the 3rd time this happens
09:49 <DStar> and it'd always happen while there is sorta heavy load
09:49 <DStar> guess it's dead :/
09:49 <luke-jr> that's one thing for sure
09:50 <luke-jr> Gentoo does tell you when the hardware's dead
09:50 <DStar> well maybe it says something on the screen
09:50 <luke-jr> MIPS don't have screens
09:50 <DStar> well... my ultra 10 has a monitor and a keyboard hooked up
09:50 <DStar> but it's in another room
09:50 <luke-jr> :p
09:50 <DStar> brb
09:50 <luke-jr> if it worked, I'd trade
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09:55 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: ty
09:56 <MrBougo> wrtlprnft:
09:56 <MrBougo> what graphics card do you use
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10:05 <DStar> luke-jr: there is stages for mips
10:05 <wrtlprnft> MrBougo: iSomething
10:05 <luke-jr> DStar: I imagine
10:06 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: O.o
10:06 <wrtlprnft> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
10:06 <Bougo> wrtlprnft: aw
10:06 <DStar> ewww intel xD is that a laptop?
10:06 <luke-jr> DStar: ...
10:06 <wrtlprnft> yep
10:06 <luke-jr> Intel > *
10:06 <Bougo> wrtlprnft: and nvidia doest support 3D acceleration on linux?
10:06 <DStar> of course they do
10:06 <wrtlprnft> it does with a binary driver
10:06 <luke-jr> Bougo: that's not what I said
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10:06 <luke-jr> I said Linux doesn't support 3D acceleration for nVidia
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10:07 <MrBougo> :/
10:07 <MrBougo> yea sorry
10:07 <MrBougo> thats what i meant
10:07 <MrBougo> so it does with a bin driver
10:07 <MrBougo> ew
10:07 <MrBougo> so whats the problem luke
10:07 <luke-jr> if you use nVidia's stuff, you end up with an illegal pseudo-Linux that most people won't support
10:07 <MrBougo> :(
10:07 <wrtlprnft> well, if the opensource amd driver comes along the next card i'll buy will have an AMD graphics card
10:08 <DStar> illegal?
10:08 <MrBougo> yea, how is it illegal
10:08 <wrtlprnft> *the next computer
10:08 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: the open source ATi driver already works nicely, tho not as good as Intel's
10:08 <MrBougo> anything installing on linux should be open source?
10:08 <luke-jr> MrBougo: same way downloading most movies is illegal
10:08 <MrBougo> huh
10:08 <luke-jr> Linux is copyrighted
10:08  * wrtlprnft uses opera and is happy with it
10:08 <MrBougo> so it's copyrighted
10:08 <MrBougo> oh
10:08 <MrBougo> but im downloading linux
10:08 <MrBougo> then installing stuff on it
10:09 <MrBougo> that's the purpose of an OS, isnt it?
10:09 <luke-jr> MrBougo: you are granted permission to distribute and derive from Linux under certain conditions
10:09 <luke-jr> nVidia violates those conditions
10:09 <MrBougo> and if i derive for personal use?
10:09 <luke-jr> same conditions apply
10:09 <MrBougo> heh
10:09 <MrBougo> and how is it derived
10:09 <luke-jr> but "personal use" generally doesn't involve distribution
10:09 <luke-jr> which is all the restrictions are
10:10 <luke-jr> MrBougo: Linux isn't a microkernel, it's monolithic
10:10 <MrBougo> is it a driver or a patch?
10:10 <luke-jr> all hardware support is part of a single whole program
10:10 <luke-jr> eg, there are no real drivers
10:10 <wrtlprnft> it's not totally accepted that nvidia's driver is illegal
10:10 <luke-jr> "drivers" for Linux are patches
10:10 <wrtlprnft> infact linus thinks it's not IIRC
10:10 <MrBougo> bah, i'll be illegal, full stop
10:10 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: it is by all IP lawyers and most kernel developers
10:10 <MrBougo> i'll blame nvidia
10:10 <luke-jr> MrBougo: nVidia is liable anyway
10:10 <luke-jr> they uploaded it to you
10:10 <MrBougo> yup
10:10 <wrtlprnft> as long as you have a GPL'd module that just uses an external prorietary binary
10:10 <luke-jr> but good luck if you need support ☺
10:10 <MrBougo> i'm a poor user
10:11 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: that's not legal
10:11 <MrBougo> hehe
10:11 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: GPL'd code cannot use an external blob
10:11 <MrBougo> huh
10:11 <wrtlprnft> sure it can
10:11 <DStar> wrtlprnft: it is not GPL'd
10:11 <MrBougo> haha
10:11 <DStar> only parts of it are
10:11 <wrtlprnft> otherwise you wouldn't be able to write GPL'd apps for windows
10:11 <DStar> or really.. only parts are open source
10:11 <luke-jr> DStar: it must be
10:11 <MrBougo> so theres the guy who says everybody's wrong
10:11 <DStar> and not GPL'd at all
10:12 <MrBougo> the two guys who have different visions of GPL
10:12 <MrBougo> and the noob
10:12 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: the GPL makes an exception for parts included with the OS, IIRC
10:12 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: otherwise you couldn't
10:12  * wrtlprnft never read about such an exception
10:13 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: Windows binaries for GPL'd apps are illegal most of the time anyway
10:13 <luke-jr> nobody bothers to enforce it, is all
10:13 <wrtlprnft> well, there's no point
10:13 <luke-jr> technically, on Windows the compiler is considered "source code" because it's not included with the OS
10:15 <wrtlprnft> anyways, with amd releasing their specs nvidia will at some point be forced to do so, too
10:15 <DStar> i still don't get why using an external module in the linux kernel should be wrong...
10:15 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: probably
10:15 <luke-jr> nVidia has an interesting history
10:15 <luke-jr> DStar: there is no such thing as an external module in the linux kernel
10:15 <luke-jr> Linux is monolithic
10:15 <luke-jr> it is a single program
10:15 <luke-jr> modules are just binary patches
10:16 <DStar> yeah and now tell me
10:16 <DStar> what is wrong with a module that is not compiled from the source of the kernel?
10:16 <luke-jr> what module is not?
10:16 <DStar> the nvidia kernel driver...
10:16 <luke-jr> nope
10:17 <luke-jr> it uses internal Linux symbols/code
10:17 <wrtlprnft> kernel modules can be written without modifying linux's source code
10:17 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: not without deriving from Linux's source code
10:17 <wrtlprnft> which makes them external enough for me
10:18 <luke-jr> there is a way nVidia could work around the GPL's restrictions
10:18 <wrtlprnft> if you write a GPL'd module that implements an API, some sort of standard
10:18 <luke-jr> but they don't do it
10:18 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: there is no such API
10:18 <luke-jr> the only APIs Linux has are for userspace
10:18 <wrtlprnft> everything can use that API without deriving from GPLd code
10:19 <luke-jr> ah, if you added such an API
10:19 <luke-jr> then yes
10:19 <luke-jr> that's the workaround
10:19 <luke-jr> but as of right now, there is no such piece
10:19 <wrtlprnft> i think nvidia is doing that
10:19 <luke-jr> and the Linux developers have stated they would reject it
10:19 <luke-jr> no
10:19 <luke-jr> there is no standard/API they use
10:19 <wrtlprnft> well, what does the opensource part of nvidia's driver do, then?
10:19 <luke-jr> and even if there was, they would need to distribute the binary .o and source code wrapper individually
10:20 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: it interfaces with interal Linux functions and internal nVidia functions
10:20 <luke-jr> if nVidia put an API in between, they'd have a way out
10:20 <luke-jr> like NDISWrapper
10:20 <luke-jr> but as-is, the current nVidia drivers are illegal
10:20 <wrtlprnft> oh, NDISWrapper is legal, then?
10:21 <luke-jr> NDISwrapper itself is legal
10:21 <wrtlprnft> anyways, /me doesn't care too much if it's legal. I just hope that the linux kernel developers aren't like the content industry
10:21 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: Linus already veto'd it
10:21 <luke-jr> tho I wish he hadn't
10:22 <MrBougo> veto'd what?
10:22 <luke-jr> a patch added a warning of an impending disallow of loading non-GPL modules in 2008
10:22 <luke-jr> to make it technically harder to load illegal code
10:22 <wrtlprnft> which is stupid
10:22 <luke-jr> no
10:22 <DStar> i agree with wrtlprnft
10:23 <DStar> it is stupid
10:23 <wrtlprnft> just would mean that the vanilla kernel becomes useless
10:23 <luke-jr> no
10:23 <luke-jr> it means we can at least pretend the nVidia modules don't exist
10:23 <wrtlprnft> and i'd have to patch it all the time to remove that stupid restriction
10:23 <luke-jr> even if everyone is too chicken to sue
10:23 <luke-jr> better no code from nVidia than binary code
10:23 <wrtlprnft> not much better than DRM crap and nothing to do with freedom IMHO
10:24 <DStar> luke-jr: if everyone's too chicken to sue, why don't you?
10:24 <luke-jr> DStar: I don't own the relevant copyrights
10:24  * wrtlprnft wants to have the freedom to load whatever he wants into his kernel
10:24  * wrtlprnft thinks that's a Good Thing
10:24 <MrBougo> yup
10:24 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: and you can; but that doesn't mean upstream will make it easy
10:24 <MrBougo> agreed
10:25 <luke-jr> especially when your loading that crap makes it impossible for them to debug any problems you have
10:25 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: well, anyone is free to distribute a patched kernel removing that restriction, as long as the patch is GPL'd
10:25 <luke-jr> maybe if people understood that and didn't go bugging developers for support, it'd be tolerable
10:25 <MrBougo> hehe wrtlprnft
10:25 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: yes
10:25 <MrBougo> so why would they do such a kernel
10:25 <MrBougo> a readme file is enough :(
10:26 <luke-jr> MrBougo: because people don't read readme
10:26 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: so do you think any major distro would include an unpatched kernel?
10:26 <luke-jr> join #xorg and watch for people asking for help with nVidia's drivers
10:26 <MrBougo> but they are supposed to do
10:26 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: no clue, probably RedHat
10:26 <luke-jr> they removed MP3 support
10:26 <MrBougo> i've installed some nvidia driver
10:26 <MrBougo> i dont remember having any problem
10:26 <wrtlprnft> making it harder for people to use their product with their hardware?
10:26 <luke-jr> MrBougo: most people don't give it time w/o the blob
10:26 <wrtlprnft> MP3 is different x_X
10:27 <luke-jr> not really
10:27 <luke-jr> MP3 is political
10:27 <luke-jr> the only reason is to push Vorbis
10:27 <wrtlprnft> bs
10:27 <MrBougo> yea, we're talking about mp3s
10:27 <MrBougo> and next we're gonna talk about the music industry
10:27 <MrBougo> then about racism
10:28 <wrtlprnft> then about terrorism
10:28 <luke-jr> yeah
10:28 <wrtlprnft> then about evolution
10:28 <luke-jr> those stinkin Jews
10:28 <luke-jr> :p
10:28 <MrBougo> what about big bang
10:28 <luke-jr> not even evolutionists follow big bang anymore, do they?
10:28 <DStar> or about religious fanatics
10:28 <DStar> oh wait we already did that all the time
10:28 <MrBougo> damn, it works!
10:28 <luke-jr> DStar: fanatics are good
10:28 <MrBougo> we arent talking about kernels anymore!
10:29 <DStar> luke-jr: extremism and fanatism is NOT good...
10:29 <epsy> #quote add <luke-jr> fanatics are good
10:29 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.  Quote #60 added.
10:29 <luke-jr> fanaticus - inspired by a deity
10:29 <wrtlprnft> MrBougo: i like cashew kernels
10:29 <luke-jr> I like sunflower kernels
10:29 <luke-jr> they make my poop icky tho
10:29 <luke-jr> :p
10:30 <DStar> everyone wanted to know that
10:30 <luke-jr> lol
10:30 <MrBougo> haha wrtlprnft
10:30 <wrtlprnft> let's talk about poo!
10:30 <MrBougo> ew
10:30 <MrBougo> i actually do too
10:30 <MrBougo> omg no, cashew kernels
10:30 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: real poo or sham poo?
10:30 <MrBougo> or poo made of cashew kernels
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10:31 <MrBougo> poor guy
10:31 <luke-jr> LOL
10:31 <wrtlprnft> isn't sham poo something evil like sunscreen?
10:31 <MrBougo> he was too hungry
10:31 <MrBougo> then we talked about poo
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10:31 <MrBougo> he couldnt resist
10:31 <luke-jr> aww he d/c before I could /invite
10:31 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: is it?
10:31 <wrtlprnft> probably is
10:32 <wrtlprnft> if sunscreen is evil, how can sham poo not be?
10:32 <luke-jr> I suspect they are totally different chemicals...
10:32 <wrtlprnft> not that i believe that either of them are evil
10:33 <luke-jr> well, obviously neither are *evil*
10:33 <luke-jr> I presumed you meant "unhealthy"
10:35 <luke-jr> btw wrtlprnft
10:35 <wrtlprnft> not really
10:35 <luke-jr> plz say ...
10:35 <luke-jr> with a single character
10:35 <wrtlprnft> …
10:35 <luke-jr> ☹
10:35 <luke-jr> it doesn't show up
10:35 <wrtlprnft> does any other utf8 char show up?
10:36 <wrtlprnft> euro: € pi: π
10:36 <luke-jr> most
10:36 <luke-jr> ☺
10:36 <wrtlprnft> maybe your font doesn't have it
10:36 <wrtlprnft> which sort of sucks
10:36 <wrtlprnft> use dejavu
10:36 <luke-jr> does it look like DOS?
10:37 <wrtlprnft> not really
10:37 <wrtlprnft> but there's a monospaced version (which i'm using right now as i'm using irssi in a konsole)
10:38 <luke-jr> ☹
10:38 <wrtlprnft> old screenshot: http://wrtlrpnft.ath.cx/irssieyes.png
10:38 <luke-jr> Unknown host wrtlrpnft.ath.cx
10:38 <epsy> *-r
10:39 <luke-jr> Unknown host wrtlprnft.ath.cx
10:39 <luke-jr> err
10:39 <luke-jr> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/irssieyes.png
10:39 <luke-jr> err
10:39 <luke-jr> yeah
10:39 <luke-jr> kinda ugly
10:42 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: http://luke.dashjr.org/tmp/snapshot18.png
10:42 <luke-jr> …
10:42 <luke-jr> wtf
10:42 <luke-jr> changing to DejaVu, then back makes the characters show up?
10:44 <wrtlprnft> eek, unantialiased
10:45 <luke-jr> it doesn't need antialiasing :p
10:45 <luke-jr> i think it's a bitmap font :p
10:46 <wrtlprnft> which means it's not scalable
10:46 <luke-jr> IRC is a single size
10:46 <luke-jr> as are terminals
10:47 <luke-jr> and yes, this font only has 1 size option :p
10:47  * wrtlprnft likes to chose this size
10:50 <luke-jr> well, my font making friend
10:50 <luke-jr> please port this font to TTF :P
10:51 <MrBougo> heh, that xampp thingy rocks
10:51 <luke-jr> …
10:52 <MrBougo> :p
10:52 <epsy> luke-jr is doing bandwidth saves
10:52 <MrBougo> xD
10:52 <luke-jr> epsy: I am?
10:53 <epsy> yes, that's 2B in utf and ... is 3
10:53  * luke-jr notes … uses 3 bytes
10:53 <luke-jr> in utf8
10:53 <MrBougo> ...
10:53 <epsy> ...
10:53 <MrBougo> …
10:53 <epsy> …
10:53 <MrBougo> so both ... and … use 3 bytes
10:53 <luke-jr> … = e2 80 a6
10:53 <MrBougo> whats wrong
10:53 <MrBougo> is it?
10:54 <luke-jr> yes
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10:55 <MrBougo> whoopsy
10:55 <MrBougo> pressed ctrl w instead of ctrl x
10:55 <epsy> #tea
10:55 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: No online players.
10:55 <epsy> gah
10:55 <epsy> #onlineservers
10:55 <armabot> epsy: This data is 35 seconds old; Bugfarm Elimination Sumo (7/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (6/10), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (5/14), Norm's Place (5/12), NIXDA.NET - CLASSIC (3/16), ¬| D u r k a  D u r k a  L an d | ¬ (3/16), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (3/12), Wild West  =Team Sumo= (2/14), The YELLOW Submarine (2/16)
10:55 <MrBougo> bye all
10:55 <luke-jr> y
10:55 <MrBougo> have a nice day
10:55 <luke-jr> WHY
10:56 <luke-jr> epsy: CHF?
10:58 <epsy> hm?
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10:59 <luke-jr> epsy: is that your currency?
11:00  * luke-jr just added CHF and GBP to his pricelist
11:01 <epsy> my currency is euro -.-
11:03 <luke-jr> o
11:03 <luke-jr> :p
11:03  * luke-jr thought someone here had some other weird currency
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11:38 <epsy> hm
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12:35 <epsy> hmm
12:35 <epsy> http://epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539/~epsy/tronicdonkeys/index.php?c=1
12:35 <epsy> if there's one comment, everything's k
12:35 <epsy> when there's more, a warning shows up
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12:43 <epsy> any clue ?
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13:02 <epsy> nvm
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14:19 <MrBougo> i love it
14:19 <MrBougo> awesome
14:19 <MrBougo> 220 megs into a 20 megs 7z
14:19 <MrBougo> :D
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14:46 <noob13> Yo, im having noob troubles with my ctf server install..
14:46 <noob13> basically im following the guide on the wiki and the forum
14:47 <noob13> got to the point where im instructed to patch the code, using patch -p0 < pigsty-061021.patch
14:47 <noob13> and now im asked to point to the files to patch...
14:47 <noob13> but...which?
14:48 <noob13> help appreciated, confusion is strong :)
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15:25 <epsy> noob13, what's the output?
15:25 <epsy> err has someone here IE7?
15:27 <noob13> well i tried skipping the problematic step, and the results weren't pretty
15:27 <epsy> heh
15:27 <epsy> what version are you trying to patch?
15:29 <noob13> hehe, i just owned it... epsy u bring me luck! :)
15:29 <noob13> ty ty ty...
15:29 <epsy> lol
15:29 <noob13> ill get back to ya if i get stuck, again :)
15:29 <epsy> k
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15:39 <noob13> apparently i didnt get too far :P next step, generating the configure script with bootstrap.sh fails
15:39 <epsy> output ?
15:45 <noob13> the output is quite huge, not going to paste it here...
15:46 <noob13> basically stuff like this automake: src/Makefile.am: not supported: source file `thirdparty/binreloc/prefix.h' is in subdirectory
15:46 <noob13> and this: Makefile.am:31: bad macro name `destdir.inst3'
15:46 <noob13> Makefile.am:36: invalid variable `nobase_dist_language_DATA'
15:46  * kidanger part quelques minutes
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15:58 <epsy> o_O
16:03 <noob13> yep.
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16:35 <noob13> can anyone tell me why i get this: http://flamer.dyndns.biz/output.txt
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16:58 <ghableska> #weather 50266
16:58 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 70.5°F (9:58 AM CDT on September 23, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 57.2°F. Pressure: 29.09 in 985.0 hPa (Falling).
17:03 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
17:03 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Near Custer and Parker, Plano, Texas is 72.3°F (9:41 AM CDT on September 23, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 21%. Dew Point: 30.2°F. Pressure: 29.29 in 991.8 hPa (Rising).  Air pollution watch level Orange in effect for today...
17:05 <spidey> #weather 38256
17:05 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 80.8°F (10:06 AM CDT on September 23, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 68.0°F. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020.5 hPa (Falling).
17:15 <spidey> anyone here decent with hardware?
17:17 <paleman> #weather helsinki
17:17 <armabot> paleman: The current temperature in Helsinki Malmi, Finland is 57.2°F (5:56 PM EEST on September 23, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 50.0°F. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
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17:59 <noob13> ok i got further with my problem after installing a different version of automake
17:59 <noob13> now im stuck, again.
17:59 <spidey> for tron?
17:59 <noob13> trying to get ctf server working, yea
18:00 <spidey> you need
18:00 <spidey> version 1.9.6
18:00 <spidey> afaik luci said other versions don't work when compiling tron
18:00 <spidey> i compile the FA servers just fine with 1.9.6
18:00 <noob13> yea, figured that out eventually
18:01 <noob13> now...
18:01 <noob13> after ./configure no makefile is found. Stop.
18:01 <spidey> if you want, i can just send you our binary :P
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18:01 <noob13> hmm...
18:01 <noob13> maybe that could help...
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18:02 <noob13> would you know why "./configure --prefix=${HOME} --disable-glout --enable-automakedefaults --disable-sysinstall --disable-etc --disable-useradd --disable-initscripts" doesnt work tho
18:02 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.org/ctfbin.tar
18:03 <spidey> i use --prefix=servername --disable-glout --disable sysinstall
18:03 <spidey> works for me
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18:04 <spidey> maybe it's the ${HOME} ?
18:04 <spidey> afaik you need another dir
18:05 <spidey> like ${HOME}/server
18:06 <noob13> true that helped :)
18:06 <noob13> thanks...
18:06 <noob13> thou now i've got a new problem :P
18:06 <noob13> configure: error: Fatal error: the libxml2 configuration script xml2-config does not work/exist.
18:07 <noob13> and apparently doesnt wanna be installed
18:10 <noob13> also get a relocation error when running ur binary
18:12 <noob13> oh why must i be so noob?
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18:59 <wrtlprnft> noob13: are you sure you installed libxml2-dev or some similarily named package?
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19:05 <noob13> wrtlprnft: excellent, that helped :) "libxml2-dev" did the trick
19:05 <noob13> thanks
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19:19 <spidey> relocation error?
19:20 <spidey> might be because of the way i install te servers
19:20 <spidey> i install it with all the files in one dir
19:20 <spidey> which reminds me
19:20 <spidey> when we move servers, i have to recompile 2 tremulous, and 5 tron servers
19:20 <spidey> :|
19:29 <noob13> yay, so i got it installed!
19:29 <noob13> one final nooby question, which is the executable that will spark up the server?
19:29 <noob13> :P
19:30 <noob13> i made such a mess when installing this...
19:30 <noob13> one could say confusion has prevailed
19:31 <spidey> ?
19:31 <spidey> where do you install it?
19:31 <spidey> it'll be in
19:31 <noob13> :O
19:31 <spidey> ${HOME}/server/bin/armagetronad-server
19:31 <spidey> assuming you installed it in /server
19:31 <spidey> no
19:31 <spidey> armagetronad-dedicated
19:32 <noob13> ah yes, thank you
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19:33 <spidey> configs will be
19:33 <noob13> and the settings are in the config dir?
19:33 <spidey> ${HOME}/server/etc/games/armagetronad-dedicated/
19:33 <spidey> afaik
19:33 <MrBougo> afayk
19:33 <spidey> yup
19:34 <spidey> that be where they are
19:34 <noob13> so ehm, so should i make an autoexec like usually?
19:34 <spidey> yea
19:34 <spidey> server_info.cfg
19:34 <spidey> settings_custom.cfg
19:34 <spidey> etc
19:34 <noob13> i see, great...
19:34 <spidey> autoexec.cfg loads something "every" round
19:35 <spidey> so normally you'd want to put settings in settings_custom
19:35 <noob13> good to know, cheers
19:37 <spidey> xfiles ftw
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20:31 <epsy> #lastseen g5
20:31 <armabot> epsy: G5 has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress 55 minutes ago.
20:31 <epsy> #lastseen phant
20:31 <armabot> epsy: ~|DS|~Phantom has last been seen on ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Arena {100MBit} 47 minutes ago.
20:31 <epsy> #lastseen pixel
20:31 <armabot> epsy: °¯pixel has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress 1 day 21 hours 22 minutes ago.
20:31 <epsy> #tea
20:31 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (13/32): (mo) SpinAce, ?bottlesofbeer, Bip, CrazyFoo, featherfcuk, GNOME, hoop, miGhty°aALLs, USA|Gazelle, ~*<y<lo*~, ~*SP*~PsYkO, ~|DS|~Slash, ¦Ö¦Lazer
20:32 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
20:32 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Near Custer and Parker, Plano, Texas is 84.9°F (1:33 PM CDT on September 23, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 11%. Dew Point: 24.8°F. Pressure: 29.26 in 990.7 hPa (Falling).  Air pollution watch level Orange in effect for today...
20:36 <noob13> what would be the map_file that ctf server usually uses?
20:37 <noob13> or why is it that my server doesnt have a flags or zones?
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20:45 <luke-jr> noob13: CTF doesn't work on a standard server
20:45 <luke-jr> noob13: it requires 0.2.8-pig
20:46 <noob13> yep that i am aware of...
20:46 <noob13> and ive got it installed...
20:47 <noob13> just not exactly sure how to set it up properly...
20:48 <wrtlprnft> noob13: yw
20:48 <noob13> wrtlprnft: what does that mean?
20:49 <wrtlprnft> you're welcoome
20:49 <wrtlprnft> -o
20:49 <wrtlprnft> sort of late, i know
20:49 <noob13> ah, hehe...
20:51 <wrtlprnft> there should be an example config file somewhere i think
20:51 <wrtlprnft> for CTF, that is
20:53 <noob13> actually the example config dir only contains these: breakfast_in_hell.cfg, death_zone.cfg, health_is_wall_length.cfg, teamsumo.cfg, cvs_test, fortress_soccer.cfg, single_use_turbo.cfg
20:56 <wrtlprnft> hmm
20:57 <wrtlprnft> anyways, you can just create a map yourself :)
20:58 <wrtlprnft> you need to add two fortresses and a <Zone effect="flag">
20:58 <wrtlprnft> err, two of them :)
21:07 <spidey> aye
21:07 <spidey> it be
21:07 <spidey> MAP_FILE Your_mom/clever/ctfsty-0.0.2.aamap.xml <-- there ya go noob13
21:09 <spidey> resource_repository_server http://fallin-angels.org/arma/
21:09 <spidey> MAP_FILE Your_mom/clever/ctfsty-0.0.2.aamap.xml
21:09 <noob13> wrtlprnft: i dont know how to make maps, but thanks... perhaps one of these days ill try ;)
21:09 <spidey> you can use that if you want
21:09 <noob13> :)
21:09 <noob13> cool, i will try those!
21:10 <wrtlprnft> spidey: your repository is missing the DTD
21:10 <spidey> hm
21:10 <spidey> no it's not
21:10 <spidey> it's in /var/www/AATeam
21:10 <spidey> 'er
21:11 <spidey> it's in /var/www/arma/AATeam
21:11 <wrtlprnft> http://fallin-angels.org/arma/Your_mom/dtd/
21:11 <wrtlprnft> looks quite empty to me
21:11 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.org/arma/AATeam
21:11 <spidey> i couldn't get the dtd to download if i put it anywhere else
21:11 <spidey> so putting it there worked for me
21:12 <wrtlprnft> the map file wants Your_mom/dtd/map-
21:12 <wrtlprnft> it may work for you, but only because you already downloaded that file from somewhere
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21:12 <spidey> ok so i need to add a 2 at the end of pig?
21:12 <wrtlprnft> right now it will block out clients that haven't been on a CTF server before
21:13 <spidey> fixed i think
21:13 <wrtlprnft> it should work now
21:14 <spidey> you any good with hardware? :p
21:14 <noob13> i can't enter my server :P
21:15 <spidey> y?
21:15 <noob13> with the new map_file and resource_repository_server....
21:15 <noob13> i dont know
21:15 <spidey> try it again, i just fixed it
21:15 <noob13> ok
21:15 <wrtlprnft> spidey: not really
21:15 <spidey> =/
21:16 <wrtlprnft> mastercontrolprogram.de O_O
21:16 <spidey> would you know if ddr400 can underclock to ddr333?
21:16 <noob13> nice moves, works now :D
21:16 <wrtlprnft> not at all, sorry
21:16 <spidey> :(
21:16  * wrtlprnft hates installing RAM
21:17 <wrtlprnft> or trying to figure out which kind of RAM to get
21:17 <spidey> installing it is easy if the box isn't small
21:17 <spidey> figuring out if it's compatible is differne =/
21:17 <spidey> different*
21:19 <wrtlprnft> that site's even got a link to mine o_O
21:19 <spidey> wrtlprnft: doesn't opera dow rows of tabs. if it's to long for the browser?
21:19 <spidey> mine isn't doing it =/
21:20 <spidey> they just keep getting smaller xD
21:20 <wrtlprnft> dow?
21:20 <wrtlprnft> anyways, right click→customize
21:20 <wrtlprnft> then change “wrapping” to whatever you like
21:21 <wrtlprnft> you can't say how many rows you want, though :(
21:21 <spidey> hrm
21:21 <spidey> do i have to restart it?
21:21 <wrtlprnft> no
21:22 <wrtlprnft> it should do it instantly
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21:22 <wrtlprnft> in fact it does it even before you click ok
21:23 <spidey> weird
21:23 <spidey> what version you using?
21:24 <paleman> why does my cycle_walls_length keep resetting to -1 every round?
21:25 <spidey> ah i see
21:25 <spidey> i was right clicking the wrong area
21:28 <wrtlprnft> 9.23
21:28 <spidey> same
21:28 <wrtlprnft> got a 9.50 alpha, too, but it's still too alpha for me
21:29 <luke-jr> paleman: because cycle_walls_length is an internal value, not a configuration option
21:29 <freako> litlle question i get an new pc wednesday, how do i limit my fps with vsync?
21:29 <wrtlprnft> paleman: use WALLS_LENGTH and SP_WALLS_LENGTH
21:29 <wrtlprnft> #cfg cycle_walls_length
21:29 <armabot> wrtlprnft: CYCLE_WALLS_LENGTH: cycle_walls_length_help (default: -1)
21:29 <luke-jr> …
21:30 <wrtlprnft> hmm, the help text doesn't even warn the user :(
21:30 <epsy> #lastseen phantom
21:30 <armabot> epsy: ~|DS|~Phantom has last been seen on ~"XzL.Clan The Server 15 minutes ago.
21:30 <epsy> meh
21:31 <spidey> #lastseen spidey
21:31 <wrtlprnft> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=15971&highlight=vsync
21:31 <armabot> spidey: timed out
21:31 <spidey> wow
21:31 <spidey> it's been that long?
21:31 <spidey> #lastseen --help
21:31 <spidey> #help lastseen
21:31 <armabot> spidey: (lastseen <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/lastseen.php?player=@1+@2+@3+@4+@5+@6+@7+@8+@9".
21:31 <epsy>  "help lastseen
21:31 <armabot> spidey: timed out
21:32 <spidey> wrtlprnft: what args can i use?
21:32 <freako> help lastseen
21:32 <epsy> freako, #
21:32 <wrtlprnft> spidey: none really
21:32 <spidey> k
21:32 <wrtlprnft> you can use #lastseen -f <name>
21:32 <freako> #lastseen psyko
21:32 <armabot> freako: ~*SP*~PsYkO has last been seen on Fortress Café 57 minutes ago.
21:32 <wrtlprnft> that will search for the exact name, not part of it
21:32 <epsy> |FA| Spidey has last been seen on Swampland II 9 days 3 hours 37 minutes ago.
21:32 <epsy> :P
21:32 <freako> oh ok
21:33 <spidey> i never played swampland after i left mbc...
21:33 <spidey> #lastseen spidey |mbc|
21:33 <spidey> #lastseen -f spidey |mbc|
21:33 <armabot> spidey: timed out
21:33 <freako> #lastseen |DS|freako
21:33 <armabot> spidey: timed out
21:34 <armabot> freako: timed out
21:34 <spidey> #lastseen -f |FA| Spidey
21:34 <freako> #lastseen xirus
21:34 <armabot> spidey: timed out
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21:34 -!- badlif is now known as beta_USA
21:34 <armabot> freako: timed out
21:34 <beta_USA> #serverinfo wild
21:34 <armabot> beta_USA: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress: Players (10/14): (-.-)Black, Bloody_Scroach, ChiCho, Cloneing, hulett, Izzy, Pink Tomatoes, Szopin, [noclan] JC, ~*SP*~Sasha
21:34 <beta_USA> #serverinfo west
21:34 <G5_Ger> #tea
21:35 <armabot> beta_USA: Wild West  =Capture The Flag=: Players (9/10): Blahmonkey, Czar, Dimitrio, Gwt2, matthew, moth, oMeGaTrOn, RAZIEL VENGADOR, |SnYpErZ|Champ
21:35 <armabot> G5_Ger: Fortress Café: No online players.
21:35 <beta_USA> #serverinfo USA
21:35 <freako> #lol much info here, didnt know it was so much :P
21:35 <armabot> beta_USA: USA CTF practice server: No online players.
21:35 <wrtlprnft> ah, great, café is empty. finally i can emerge sync
21:35 <beta_USA> hehe
21:35 <beta_USA> a prod server on gentoo. XD
21:35 <freako> wrtl cafe has some probs
21:35 <wrtlprnft> :P
21:36 <epsy> lol wrtl
21:36 <wrtlprnft> i know it lags sometimes
21:36 <freako> fort cafe has some Ping spikes that last for half hours sometimes then everybody gets ping 2x
21:36  * epsy is still loading http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/lastseen.php?player=-f+spidey+|mbc|
21:37 <beta_USA> That's the use for "SERVER_OPTIONS" ? I left the "All settings at default values." But i'm not sure what to do with it right now.
21:37 <spidey> lol
21:37 <spidey> that's the description of the server
21:37 <spidey> :P
21:37 <epsy> haha freako
21:38 <freako> :P
21:38 <spidey> back when i played tron
21:38 <spidey> i got 150~ ping on cafe
21:38 <spidey> which luke says is impossible
21:38 <spidey> :P
21:38 <freako> i got 175 normal it 50/60
21:38 <wrtlprnft> freako: i don't know the cause…
21:38 <luke-jr> spidey: heck, I don't know that your ISP ping is possible
21:38 <wrtlprnft> there's just two cronjobs
21:38 <spidey> luke-jr: you saw it...
21:38 <spidey> want to ssh and try it yourself? :P
21:39 <luke-jr> I saw you paste it
21:39 <luke-jr> :p
21:39 <luke-jr> fine
21:39 <beta_USA> Yes i know but what's the use for that ^^ I mean on the server list i have the players, the version and the URI (i don't know that's the use of that last one either tought :p) Then does people see this message ?
21:39 <spidey> info's the same as it is on gentoo
21:39 <luke-jr> different SSH host key
21:39 <luke-jr> and what IP?
21:39 <spidey> yea
21:39 <spidey> um
21:39 <spidey> sec
21:39 <wrtlprnft> one running every 5 minutes to upload some 10KB of stuff within the same provider's network
21:39 <spidey>
21:39 <spidey>
21:39 <luke-jr> and I don't remember your passwords
21:39 <wrtlprnft> and one every hour running an rsync to luke's server, but that only runs for a minute or so
21:40 <freako> #lastseen psyko
21:40 <armabot> freako: ~*SP*~PsYkO has last been seen on Fortress Café 1 hour 5 minutes ago.
21:40 <freako> #lastseen fofo
21:40 <armabot> freako: ¦×¥ FoFo has last been seen on Bugfarm Elimination Sumo 1 minute ago.
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21:46 <spidey_> ...
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21:46 <spidey> luke-jr: wtf'd you do?
21:46 <spidey> luke-jr: wtf'd you do?
21:46 <luke-jr> ..
21:46 <luke-jr> ping
21:47 <luke-jr> then it died
21:47 <spidey> ...
21:47 <luke-jr> …
21:47 <luke-jr> did it again
21:47 <luke-jr> piece of junk network you got
21:47 <spidey> what was that router ip i posted?
21:47 <luke-jr> ?
21:49 <spidey> #ping
21:49 <armabot> pong
21:50 <wrtlprnft> 21:39 <spidey>
21:50 <wrtlprnft> 21:39 <spidey>
21:51 <wrtlprnft> if that helps
21:52 <spidey> um
21:52 <spidey> luke-jr: it doesn't drop out for me...
21:52 <spidey> you're breaking something
21:52 <spidey> :D
21:53 <spidey> what exactly are you doing?
21:53 <wrtlprnft> spidey: ~/.bash_history
21:53 <wrtlprnft> not foolproof, but gives a good indication
21:56 <spidey> hm
21:56 <spidey> doesn't show anything =/
21:58 <noob13> spidey: any chance i could see ur ctf settings?
21:59 <spidey> it's huge
21:59 <spidey> but sure
21:59 <noob13> its working, but it has issues all around
21:59 <noob13> the cycle settings and team settings are the main ones i need...
22:00 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.org/settings_custom.cfg
22:00 <spidey> and
22:01 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.org/server_info.cfg
22:01 <noob13> thanks alot :)
22:04 <spidey> afaik
22:04 <spidey> if you disable flag blinking
22:04 <spidey> it should help with the lag at the end of rounds
22:05 <spidey> #last --from luke-jr --with router
22:05 <armabot> spidey: [07:26:44] <luke-jr> best I can tell, is your closest router on your ISP
22:06 <spidey> it seems the ping is higher today
22:06 <spidey> o.o
22:19 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=191902#191902
22:21 <Lucifer_arma> #lastseen Lucifer
22:21 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: timed out
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22:26 <G5_Ger> #tea
22:26 <armabot> G5_Ger: Fortress Café: No online players.
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23:32 <Gursikh> Is there a way to dump all current running settings to a file?
23:37 <Lucifer_arma> nope
23:38 <Gursikh> or to output them on consoel so I can grab them?
23:38 <Gursikh> been playing with setting in console and I think I got them how I want them
23:39 <Lucifer_arma> I don't think there's a way to output them as a group
23:40 <Lucifer_arma> with a script setup properly, you could determine your settings by induction
23:40 <Gursikh> awww
23:40 <Lucifer_arma> another way is to take a client configured with only default settings, join the server, and take a screenie of the red setting text as you join
23:40 <Lucifer_arma> there's a reason I always suggest making sure your changes get put in everytime.cfg while you're experimenting :)
23:41 <Lucifer_arma> or to instead put INCLUDE settings_custom.cfg into everytime.cfg
23:41 <Gursikh> lame :-( , and lack of tab-complete is somehow also very annoying
23:41 <Lucifer_arma> just press enter instead
23:41 <Lucifer_arma> you'll get a list of choices
23:42 <Lucifer_arma> but you have to type in from scratch again, of course
23:42 <Gursikh> yeah
23:45 <spidey> why am i having problems getting tremulous's output to pipe to a file instead of spam my screen :|
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23:57 <Gursikh> I <3 tremulous console
23:58 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: maybe it outputs to stderr instead of stdout?
23:58 <Gursikh> naw`its stdout
23:59 <Lucifer_arma> well, I think I'm about as ready as I'm going to be to take my overnment test
23:59 <Lucifer_arma> so I'll get my statics homework done tonight
23:59 <Lucifer_arma> but I can't help but notice my wife is still nowhere to be seen :(

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00:28 <spidey> Lucifer_arma: i tried 2>&1
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01:20 <ghableska> #weather 50266
01:20 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 84.0°F (6:19 PM CDT on September 23, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 64.4°F. Pressure: 28.96 in 980.6 hPa (Falling).
01:20 <ghableska> #armaservers
01:20 <armabot> ghableska: This data is 100 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (14/14), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (9/12), Swampland II (8/10), SPACEZONE III (8/15), Fortress Café (8/32), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (7/10), SPACEZONE II S (6/15), Dave's Server (5/16), Nexus9 (NO RUBBER!) (5/16), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (5/12), USA CTF practice server (4/12), Norm's Place (4/12), ~:P1|Holy DF· (1 more message)
01:20 <ghableska> #tea
01:20 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (8/32): CtxOwned, CT׶3, Dez, Frost Dragon, hoop, Kamakazi, shinkansen, USA|Gazelle
01:21 <Vanhayes> #tea
01:21 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (8/32): CtxOwned, CT׶3, Dez, Frost Dragon, hoop, Kamakazi, shinkansen, USA|Gazelle
01:21 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
01:21 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 64°F / 18°C | Humidity: 42% | Pressure: 29.87in / 1011hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 14mph / 22km/h | Updated: 8:00 PM ADT; Tonight - A few clouds. Fog patches spreading inland this evening. Wind southwest 20 km/h (12 mph) becoming light this evening. Low 7C(45F).; Friday - Sunny with cloudy periods. Fog patches dissipating in the morning. (1 more message)
01:21 <Vanhayes> #weather red deer
01:21 <armabot> Vanhayes: The current temperature in Red Deer, Alberta is 44.6°F (5:00 PM MDT on September 23, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 32.0°F. Windchill: 39.2°F. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Rising).
01:22 <Vanhayes> #weather calgary
01:22 <armabot> Vanhayes: The current temperature in Calgary, Alberta is 44.6°F (5:00 PM MDT on September 23, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 32.0°F. Windchill: 39.2°F. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Rising).
01:22 <Vanhayes> hmm, thats the exact same
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01:44 <Vanhayes> #g 1 CAD in USD
01:44 <armabot> blame google for closing their damn API
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02:00 <luke-jr> spidey: tcptraceroute google.com 80
02:00 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: BASH won't save to it if the connection drops, I think
02:02 <tramshed> compiz-fusion is awesome
02:03 <spidey> r
02:03 <spidey> oot@hax:/home/spidey# tcptraceroute google.com 80
02:03 <spidey> Selected device eth1, address, port 59984 for outgoing packets
02:03 <spidey> Tracing the path to google.com ( on TCP port 80 (www), 30 hops max
02:03 <spidey>  1  * * *
02:03 <spidey>  2  * *
02:03 <spidey> luke-jr: fail
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02:21 <spidey> #list
02:21 <armabot> spidey: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Insult, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
02:21 <spidey> #list alias
02:21 <armabot> spidey: monologue, roulette, 42, \\\:o, add, afl, armabot, armaconfig, armaservers, armasettings, babel, ball, bigbrother, bounce, bug, bye, cat, cfg, chatlog, check, cinf, cink, crazylate, ctwf, dance, date, davestupidwebsite"rss, ddl, delire, die, die, digg, digitx, ding, disclaimer, do, dog, dong, eliza, eroulette, f, fastfood, finc, fink, fofo, fortune, g, gcalc, gfight, go, godtodd, goodbye, (2 more messages)
02:21 <spidey> #more
02:21 <armabot> spidey: hd, hell, hello, hey, hoop, hungary, hyphy, impregnate, insight, ircstats, jesus, joke, kill, killsomeone, kinc, kinf, laddle10, lastseen, lastseenf, legit, lock, log, log, luke, lukejrwork, m, man, mcalc, mfaq, monologue, morning, move, mrbougo, murder, nano, night, null, onlineplayers, onlineservers, pacman, peek, pingme, pingy, piong, poing, pong, powiedz, praise, pwn, q, rape, (1 more message)
02:21 <spidey> #more
02:21 <armabot> spidey: realchatlogs, remove, res, resources, rou, roulette, roulette, roulete, rules, r‭oulette, sd, serverdetails, serverinfo, slap, speed, stfu, stone, sty, svn, t, tea, team, thank, tst4, tst5, tstservers, tyskie, uname, unlock, ur, vanhayes, w, weather, where, whereis4p, whereisp4, where are the noobs ?, whoareyou, whoisp4, wikipedia, wild, wp, ww, xd, ¡¡¡, and ‭
02:21 <spidey> #man wall
02:21 <armabot> spidey: wall -- send a message to everybody's terminal.
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03:09 <spidey> wrtlprnft: ping
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03:10 <ghableska> #weather 50266
03:10 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 78.3°F (8:08 PM CDT on September 23, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 64.4°F. Pressure: 28.95 in 980.2 hPa (Steady).
03:33 <beta_USA> #lastseen ota
03:33 <armabot> beta_USA: ota|mbc| has last been seen on Swampland in 0.2.8 3 hours 57 minutes ago.
03:33 <beta_USA> hm
03:35 <beta_USA> #armasettings BOY
03:35 <armabot> beta_USA: Sorry, no matches :S
03:35 <beta_USA> #armasettings BOT
03:35 <armabot> beta_USA: ENEMY_CHATBOT_PENALTY: Penalty in seconds if the victim is in chatbot state and the enemy influence is just the chatbot evading a wall (default: 30)
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03:38 <luke-jr> spidey: so what was it doing when I tried? crashing your router or PC?
03:42 <spidey> neither
03:42 <spidey> it was somehow crashing /etc/init.d/networking
03:43 <spidey> or eth1
03:45 <luke-jr> wtf
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04:31 <Vanhayes> #tea
04:31 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: No online players.
05:27 <Stewie-arma> #tea
05:27 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Fortress Café: No online players.
05:27 <Stewie-arma> #lastseen ~ X ~
05:27 <Stewie-arma> #lastseen sagelord
05:27 <armabot> Stewie-arma: .:] ~ X ~ has last been seen on  Wild West  =Fortress= 21 hours 33 minutes ago.
05:27 <armabot> Stewie-arma: .:] SageLord has last been seen on NIXDA.NET - SUMO 5 hours 42 minutes ago.
05:28 <Stewie-arma> BLAST!
05:37 <Vanhayes> #night
05:37 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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05:48 <Durka> ~ X ~
05:48 <Durka> -.-
05:48 <xfroggy> Durka, -.-
05:48 <Durka> I literally came in one second before you :P
05:48 <xfroggy> :D
05:49 <xfroggy> where's the n00b hell
05:49 <Durka> damnit, /nick ¥:¢ doesn't work =/
05:49 <xfroggy> Stewie-arma, ping
05:51 <Durka> xfroggy: /msg ?
05:51 <Durka> can you see mind?
05:51 <Stewie-arma> xforggy: pong
05:51 <Stewie-arma> and by forggy I mean froggy
05:51 <Durka> Stewie-arma, xfroggy: /join #blahblah123
05:52 <beta_USA> hey Durka
05:52 <Durka> hi beta
05:52 <Durka> ugly scene yesterday :(
05:52 <Stewie-arma> durka maybe if my xchat wasn't freaking out
05:52 <beta_USA> I know ß isn't beta. Although, i choose to named ß and then people called me beta
05:52 <Durka> I was {Super} Dude!
05:52 <beta_USA> Yes I know.
05:52 <Durka> I stayed outta it though heh
05:52 <beta_USA> Sorry for the drama.
05:52 <beta_USA> Now I officially hate nick.
05:52 <Stewie-arma> durka brb
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05:53 <xfroggy> -.-
05:53 <xfroggy> why he quit :/
05:53 <beta_USA> Anyway you whould have won i think, we didn't have our best players and for myself my connection sucks.
05:54 <beta_USA> I have to kill my ISP.
05:54 <beta_USA> Well good night all. See you later.
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05:55 <Durka> bye beta_USA
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05:55 <xfroggy> Stewie-arma, :D
05:55 <Stewie-arma> xforggy, :D
06:03 <spidey> #roulette
06:03 <armabot> spidey: *click*
06:04 <Stewie-arma> #roulette
06:04 <spidey> #roulette
06:04 <armabot> Stewie-arma: *click*
06:04 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
06:04  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
06:04 <Stewie-arma> lol
06:04 <Stewie-arma> #roulette
06:04 <armabot> Stewie-arma: *click*
06:04 <spidey> i'm stealing those lines for teh trem bot :D
06:05 <spidey> when i upload the qvm with !slap, it'll slap you to death, lol
06:12 <Durka> o shit
06:12  * Durka runs from spidey 
06:22 <Stewie-arma> #roulette
06:22 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
06:22  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
06:22 <Stewie-arma> #roulette
06:22 <Stewie-arma> #roulette
06:22 <armabot> Stewie-arma: *click*
06:22 <Stewie-arma> #roulette
06:22 <Stewie-arma> #roulette
06:22 <armabot> Stewie-arma: *click*
06:22 <Stewie-arma> #roulette
06:22 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
06:22  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
06:22 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
06:22 <Stewie-arma> yay
06:22  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
06:22 <armabot> Stewie-arma: *click*
06:23 <Stewie-arma> sorry for spamming
06:42 <Stewie-arma> "<xfroggy> u dont have tits nor pussy to keep me staying here"
06:42 <Stewie-arma> add that to the quotes and smoke it
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07:34 <spidey> #list alias
07:34 <armabot> spidey: monologue, roulette, 42, \\\:o, add, afl, armabot, armaconfig, armaservers, armasettings, babel, ball, bigbrother, bounce, bug, bye, cat, cfg, chatlog, check, cinf, cink, crazylate, ctwf, dance, date, davestupidwebsite"rss, ddl, delire, die, die, digg, digitx, ding, disclaimer, do, dog, dong, eliza, eroulette, f, fastfood, finc, fink, fofo, fortune, g, gcalc, gfight, go, godtodd, goodbye, (2 more messages)
07:34 <spidey> #cat
07:35 <armabot> spidey: Crazy Tronners Wild Catfight: No online players.
07:41 <wrtlprnft> P4: these graphs are outdated :(
07:41 <spidey> wrtlprnft:
07:41 <wrtlprnft> spidey: 
07:41 <spidey> does irssi accept stdin?
07:42 <wrtlprnft> in what way?
07:42 <spidey> hm
07:42 <spidey> eg, reads from a file, and inputs it into chat
07:42 <wrtlprnft> i'm sure you can write a script that does that
07:43 <wrtlprnft> actually i'd be surprised if such a script didn't exist already
07:43 <spidey> what does irssi use for scripting?
07:43 <wrtlprnft> perl :(
07:44 <spidey> hm
07:44 <spidey> well, i'm lazy so instead of joining the server everytime someone wants something
07:44 <spidey> i plan to have my server side bot read the irssi logs, and act on the commands
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07:45 <spidey> and visa versa for irssi
07:45 <MrBougo> hiho
07:45 <spidey> spam heaven tho xD
07:45 <MrBougo> ???
07:45  * MrBougo pokes spidey 
07:46 <wrtlprnft> actually
07:46 <wrtlprnft> you can do /exec -o cat <filename>
07:46 <wrtlprnft> g2g, school
07:46 <spidey> ah
07:46 <spidey> i can o that in konversation i think
07:47 <MrBougo> cya wrtlprnft
07:47 <spidey> cya
07:47 <MrBougo> spidey: /exec -o works in X-Chat 2
07:47 <MrBougo> i can do teh exec -o with teh windowz
07:47 <MrBougo> but microsoft still sucks
07:48 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.org/lol
07:48 <spidey> then tail -n 1 -f trem.log
07:48 <spidey> xD
07:48 <spidey> 'er
07:48 <spidey> tail -n 1 -f trem.log | ./bot.sh
07:49  * spidey stole armabot's roulette D:
07:55 <luke-jr> spidey: nice
08:02 <spidey> ty :D
08:02 <spidey> manta helped with the regex, i could figure it out =/
08:05 <luke-jr> spidey: I must admit it is a crappy regex
08:06 <luke-jr> I'd try '\([^:]\)'
08:06 <spidey> i think i'ma use telnet
08:06 <spidey> heh
08:07 <luke-jr> …
08:08 <spidey> for irc
08:08 <luke-jr> telnet != IRC ☺
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08:12 <SPIDEY___> test
08:12 <spidey> hm
08:12 <spidey> that's telnet
08:12 <spidey> lol
08:13 <spidey> so luke-jr
08:14 <spidey> i can't use telnet for irc? :P
08:14 <MrBougo> #roulette
08:14 <armabot> MrBougo: *click*
08:14 <spidey> telnet client? :P
08:14 <MrBougo> #poke
08:15 <luke-jr> spidey: if you use any of telnet's features, it will break ☺
08:15 <MrBougo> huh
08:15 <MrBougo> telnet sukz
08:15 <MrBougo> its unsecure
08:15 <luke-jr> and it's repetitive anyhow
08:15 <luke-jr> MrBougo: so is IRC, FYI
08:15 <MrBougo> yup
08:15 <MrBougo> FYI?
08:16 <luke-jr> For Your Info
08:16 <luke-jr> MrBougo: duh
08:16 <MrBougo> fuck you, invaders
08:16 <spidey> repetitive?
08:16 <spidey> besides, it'll do what i need it to do :P
08:17 <luke-jr> spidey: probably won't even support AYT
08:17 <spidey> ayt?
08:17 <luke-jr>       Are You There (AYT)
08:17 <luke-jr>          Many systems provide a function which provides the user with
08:17 <luke-jr>          some visible (e.g., printable) evidence that the system is
08:17 <luke-jr>          still up and running.  This function may be invoked by the user
08:17 <luke-jr>          when the system is unexpectedly "silent" for a long time,
08:17 <luke-jr>          because of the unanticipated (by the user) length of a
08:17 <luke-jr>          computation, an unusually heavy system load, etc.  AYT is the
08:17 <luke-jr>          standard representation for invoking this function.
08:18 <spidey> ok, so what's that mean?
08:18 <luke-jr> telnet's ping
08:18 <luke-jr> http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc854.html
08:18 <spidey> who cares about ping?
08:19 <spidey> you get this
08:19 <spidey> PING :heinlein.freenode.net
08:19 <spidey> you type this
08:19 <spidey> pong :heinlein.freenode.net
08:20 <luke-jr> that's nto telnet, it's IRC
08:20 <spidey> from a telnet client
08:20 <spidey> :P
08:20 <luke-jr> …
08:20 <luke-jr> you totally missed the point
08:20 <luke-jr> …………….
08:20 <spidey> that it doesn't do it by default?
08:20 <luke-jr> NO
08:21 <spidey> what's the point then?
08:21 <luke-jr> …
08:22 <luke-jr> forget it
08:22 <spidey> lol
08:22 <spidey> anyways
08:22 <spidey> i'ma see if i can add some sorta irc support w/a telnet client tomorrow :P
08:23 <luke-jr> …
08:23 <luke-jr> BASH supports TCP you know
08:23 <GodTodd> that's luke-jr for "i have no fucking clue" :)
08:23 <luke-jr> GodTodd: liar
08:23 <spidey> luke-jr: probably more than i'd understand
08:23 <spidey> but if you want to point me to a tutorial, go for it :P
08:25 <luke-jr> http://www.woot.com/
08:25 <spidey> ...
08:26 <spidey> so how is a online store supposed to help me learn tcp with bash? :P
08:27 <luke-jr> read the desc
08:27 <luke-jr> for bash, it's simple
08:27 <luke-jr> { … } 3<>/dev/tcp/irc.freenode.net/6667
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08:31 <spidey> well
08:31 <spidey> i'll figure it out tomorrow
08:31 <spidey> #night
08:31 <armabot> Good night spidey!
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16:27 <beta_USA> #serverinfo clone
16:27 <armabot> beta_USA: "USA CLAN" European CAPTURE THE FLAG (clone): No online players.
16:27 <beta_USA> #serverinfo USA
16:27 <armabot> beta_USA: "USA CLAN" European CAPTURE THE FLAG server: Players (1/12): marshmalow
16:27 <beta_USA> #serverinfo crazy
16:27 <armabot> beta_USA: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress: Players (10/14): chippys64, Dangle Wizard, Delete(d), dummy, noggo, slurpie, Spider Ping, WWv, \|/ Indiana, |*.*|
16:28 <beta_USA> #serverinfo practice
16:28 <armabot> beta_USA: USA CTF practice server: No online players.
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17:00 <beta_USA> #armasettings TEAM
17:00 <armabot> beta_USA: ALLOW_TEAM_NAME_COLOR: Allow a team to be named after a color (default: 1) || ALLOW_TEAM_NAME_LEADER: Set to 1 to allow team leader to set a team, 0 otherwise. (default: 0) || ALLOW_TEAM_NAME_PLAYER: Allow a team to be named after the leading player (default: 1) || AUTO_TEAM: Flag indicating whether players should be put into teams automatically. (default: 1) || CYCLE_ACCEL_TEAM: (9 more messages)
17:01 <beta_USA> #more
17:01 <armabot> beta_USA: Multiplicator to CYCLE_ACCEL for your temmates' walls (default: 1) || CYCLE_ACCEL_TEAM_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_ACCEL_TEAM differs from its default? (default: 3) || CYCLE_BOOSTFACTOR_TEAM: Factor your speed is multiplied with when breaking from a teammate's wall (default: 1) || CYCLE_BOOSTFACTOR_TEAM_OVERRIDE: cycle_boostfactor_team_override_help (default: 3) || (8 more messages)
17:01 <beta_USA> #more
17:01 <armabot> beta_USA: CYCLE_BOOST_TEAM: Speed boost when breaking from a teammate's wall (default: 0) || CYCLE_BOOST_TEAM_OVERRIDE: cycle_boost_team_override_help (default: 3) || ENEMY_TEAMMATE_PENALTY: Penalty on the effective time in seconds if the enemy influence detection is from a teammate (default: 2500) || FAV_NUM_PER_TEAM_PLAYER_1: The favorite number of players per team for this player (default: 3) || (7 more messages)
17:02 -!- noob7 is now known as noob7_away
17:02 <beta_USA> #more
17:02 <armabot> beta_USA: FAV_NUM_PER_TEAM_PLAYER_2: The favorite number of players per team for this player (default: 3) || FAV_NUM_PER_TEAM_PLAYER_3: The favorite number of players per team for this player (default: 3) || FAV_NUM_PER_TEAM_PLAYER_4: The favorite number of players per team for this player (default: 3) || NAME_TEAM_AFTER_PLAYER_1: If set, the team is named after the leading player (default: 0) || (6 more messages)
17:02 <beta_USA> #more
17:02 <epsy> PLEASE, identify to nickserv and use PMs -.-
17:02 <armabot> beta_USA: NAME_TEAM_AFTER_PLAYER_2: If set, the team is named after the leading player (default: 0) || NAME_TEAM_AFTER_PLAYER_3: If set, the team is named after the leading player (default: 0) || NAME_TEAM_AFTER_PLAYER_4: If set, the team is named after the leading player (default: 0) || NEW_TEAM_ALLOWED: Is it currently allowed to create a new team? (default: 0) || PLAYER_CHAT_WAIT_TEAMLEADER: Set to (5 more messages)
17:03 <beta_USA> ok sorry
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18:08 <spidey> Lucifer_arma: ping
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18:47 <freako> #lastseen fr34ky
18:48 <armabot> freako: timed out
18:48 <freako> #lastseen freaky
18:48 <armabot> freako: Freaky cookie has last been seen on Fortress Café 1 day 1 hour 34 minutes ago.
18:49 <freako> #lastseen sp freaky
18:49 <armabot> freako: timed out
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19:08 <beta_USA> #lastseen ota
19:08 <armabot> beta_USA: ota fan has last been seen on  Wild West  =Capture The Flag= 4 hours 42 minutes ago.
19:08 <beta_USA> :/
19:08 <beta_USA> #lastseen ota|mbc|
19:08 <armabot> beta_USA: ota|mbc| has last been seen on Swampland in 0.2.8 14 hours 54 minutes ago.
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19:14 <spidey> hm
19:14 <spidey> luke-jr: netcat's easier :P
19:16 <Stewie-arma> lol
19:17 <Stewie-arma> spidey I was trying to do @Roulette yesterday but it wasn't working! *cries*
19:17 <spidey> the bot isn't running
19:17 <spidey> i'ma make it spam what happens in the server, in a irc channel
19:17 <Stewie-arma> lol
19:17 <Stewie-arma> sounds like fun
19:17 <spidey> and you can mod the server from teh irc channel
19:17 <Stewie-arma> well that sounds nifty
19:18 <spidey> only cause i'm to lazy to join the server everytime someone wants something :|
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19:18 <spidey> i'ma try to set it up pretty much like the qvm
19:18 <spidey> so, if you don't have the powers in the server, you don't have the powers with the irc bot
19:19 <Stewie-arma> darn it
19:19 <spidey> :P
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19:22 <Stewie-arma> so I wont be able to kick
19:22 <Stewie-arma> darn it
19:22 <spidey> :)
19:23 <Stewie-arma> *glares at spidey*
19:23 <spidey> you also won't be able to use the bot at all unless i add your hostmask to teh bot :P
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19:46 <freako> lastseen psyko
19:46 <freako> #lastseen psyko
19:46 <armabot> freako: ~*SP*~PsYkO has last been seen on Bugfarm Elimination Sumo 48 minutes ago.
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20:22 <Gursikh> hey how do I load the enxt map?
20:22 <Gursikh> end this rond
20:22 <Gursikh> round*
20:25 <luke-jr> spidey: netcat's not easier
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20:45 <xfroggy> omg this is getting annoying
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20:50 <xfroggy> Can someone stop Psyko f***ing with wiki :-/
20:54 <epsy> yay gVim froze again
20:54  * epsy is not admin
20:54 <epsy> Lucifer_arma, ou are still able to ban on the wiki aren't you ?
20:55 <xfroggy> he uses the same ISP and the idiot denies it
20:55 <epsy> whatever, ban this ip :p
20:55 <xfroggy> I doubt there is 2 idiots in tron community that attend same University
20:55 <epsy> heh
20:56 <epsy> xfroggy, do you prefer doing our match satursday or sunday ?
20:56 <xfroggy> err I haven't checked forums yet, I think for Sage is better Saturday
20:57  * xfroggy didn't see flashy or JJ yet
20:57 <epsy> i seen flashy
20:57 <xfroggy> she said anything? Oo
20:57 <epsy> she said...err...
20:57 <epsy> :O
20:57 <xfroggy> lol :D
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20:57 <epsy> #lastseen flash
20:57 <armabot> epsy: .:] flash has last been seen on Fortress Café 1 hour 40 minutes ago.
20:58 <xfroggy> Oo
20:58 <epsy> #lastseen 0x0077f
20:58 <armabot> epsy: 0x0077f has last been seen on Fortress Café 1 hour 22 minutes ago.
20:58 <xfroggy> who's that?
20:58 <epsy> flash :p
20:58  * epsy is 0xff770
20:58 <epsy> #lastseen 0xff770
20:58 <armabot> epsy: 0xff770 has last been seen on Fortress Café 1 hour 14 minutes ago.
20:58 <xfroggy> Oo
21:03 <Lucifer_arma> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Peruvian_meteorite_event
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21:05 <beta_USA> 494 XD
21:05 <beta_USA> 404
21:06 <luke-jr> …
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21:20 <Lucifer_arma> http://maps.google.com/maps?t=h&q=-16.643889,-69.054722&ie=UTF8&ll=80.535233,-81.897583&spn=0.21905,2.307129&z=9&om=1
21:22 <xfroggy> wow
21:23 <spidey> Lucifer_arma: eh?
21:24 <spidey> it's easier than using bash's tcp :P
21:24 <spidey> btw Lucifer_arma , my new jabber -> slackbear@jabber.org
21:25 <Lucifer_arma> http://maps.google.com/maps?t=h&q=-16.643889,-69.054722&ie=UTF8&ll=80.535233,-81.897583&spn=0.21905,2.307129&z=9&om=1
21:25 <spidey> #help
21:25 <armabot> spidey: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
21:26 <spidey> #list games
21:26 <armabot> spidey: coin, dice, eightball, monologue, and roulette
21:27 <beta_USA> #roulette
21:27 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
21:27  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
21:27 <beta_USA> :/
21:27 <spidey> lol
21:45 <epsy> hm
21:55 <Stewie-arma> #eightball
21:55 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Come again?
21:55 <Stewie-arma> #coin
21:55 <armabot> Stewie-arma: tails
21:55 <Stewie-arma> #coin
21:55 <armabot> Stewie-arma: tails
21:55 <Stewie-arma> #coin
21:55 <armabot> Stewie-arma: heads
21:55 <epsy> LOL
21:55 <Stewie-arma> #coin
21:55 <armabot> Stewie-arma: heads
21:55 <Stewie-arma> #coin
21:55 <armabot> Stewie-arma: tails
21:55 <Stewie-arma> #coin
21:55 <armabot> Stewie-arma: tails
21:55 <Stewie-arma> #coin
21:55 <armabot> Stewie-arma: heads
21:55 <Stewie-arma> #coin
21:55 <armabot> Stewie-arma: tails
21:55 <Stewie-arma> #coin
21:55 <armabot> Stewie-arma: heads
21:55 <Stewie-arma> #coin
21:55 <armabot> Stewie-arma: heads
21:55  * epsy slaps Stewie-arma 
21:55  * Stewie-arma slaps Stewie-Arma aswell
21:56 <epsy> :d
21:56 <Stewie-arma> #dice
21:56 <armabot> Stewie-arma: (dice <dice>d<sides>) -- Rolls a die with <sides> number of sides <dice> times. For example, 2d6 will roll 2 six-sided dice; 10d10 will roll 10 ten-sided dice.
21:56 <Stewie-arma> #dice 10d10
21:56 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Error: You can't roll more than 6 dice.
21:56 <Stewie-arma> lol
21:56 <Stewie-arma> #dice 5d6
21:56 <armabot> Stewie-arma: 1, 4, 4, 5, and 2
21:56 <Stewie-arma> yeah I won
21:57 <Stewie-arma> #dice 6d42
21:57 <armabot> Stewie-arma: 4, 7, 34, 9, 30, and 13
21:57 <Stewie-arma> always 4 eh?
21:57 <GodTodd> #dice 6d100
21:57 <armabot> GodTodd: 1, 100, 47, 89, 79, and 43
21:58  * GodTodd used to have a 100 sided die...that sucker ruled :)
22:05 <Stewie-arma> GodTodd how big was it?
22:06 <Stewie-arma> #dice 6d1000
22:06 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Error: Dice can't have more than 100 sides.
22:06 <Stewie-arma> lol
22:06 <Stewie-arma> #dice 6d75
22:06 <armabot> Stewie-arma: 75, 74, 65, 16, 59, and 38
22:06 <Stewie-arma> 75, 74, what are the chances of that?
22:06 <Stewie-arma> #dice 6d75
22:06 <armabot> Stewie-arma: 65, 21, 32, 61, 13, and 26
22:07 <GodTodd> it was about the size of a golf ball
22:08 <Stewie-arma> how could you read all the sides?
22:10 <GodTodd> you really only have to read one at a time...
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22:38 <beta_USA> "<Stewie-arma> 75, 74, what are the chances of that?" <= the same as every other combinaison :p
22:40 <GodTodd> luke-jr: there's some Rapha asshat looking for you...
22:41 <luke-jr> where
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22:41 <GodTodd> he was in the asshat channel
22:41 <GodTodd> but he just cussed a bit then left
22:41 <luke-jr> figures
22:41 <luke-jr> that's all he usually does, isn't it?
22:42 <GodTodd> yep...so i put a (hopefully) better ban on him... Lucifer_arma had already put one ban on him in there
22:42 <GodTodd> heh
22:43 <luke-jr> funny, I thought that's kinda what you made the channel for
22:43 <GodTodd> only for people i know :)
22:43 <GodTodd> besides...he wasn't cussing you out
22:43 <luke-jr> o
22:44 <luke-jr> then wtf did you say he was looking for me?
22:44 <GodTodd> [2007-09-24 15:33] --> Rapha_ has joined this channel (i=raphael_@c911650e.rjo.virtua.com.br).
22:44 <GodTodd> [2007-09-24 15:33] <Rapha_> hey
22:44 <GodTodd> [2007-09-24 15:33] <Rapha_> where is luke-jr?
22:44 <GodTodd> [2007-09-24 15:33] <Rapha_> hey, gays, whereis luke-jr?
22:44 <GodTodd> [2007-09-24 15:33] <Rapha_> ?????????
22:44 <GodTodd> [2007-09-24 15:33] <Rapha_> ????????
22:44 <GodTodd> [2007-09-24 15:34] <Rapha_> gays
22:44 <GodTodd> [2007-09-24 15:34] <Rapha_> motherfucker
22:44 <GodTodd> [2007-09-24 15:34] <-- Rapha_ has left this channel.
22:44 <GodTodd> because he was?
22:45 <GodTodd> now...i *am* a mother fucker...but i'm certainly not gay ;)
22:45 <luke-jr> lol
22:46 <GodTodd>  .br....that's brazil, ain't it?
22:47 <epsy> #tea
22:47 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (1/32): ~*SP*~oO.k3nNy
22:47 <luke-jr> I guess
22:47 <epsy> :p
22:47 <GodTodd> o_O
22:48 <luke-jr> #lin_vs_win appears to be Brazillians
22:48  * GodTodd wonders if that Raphasshat is a current or prospective luke-jr customer...
22:49  * luke-jr wonders if he even has a chance to be a potential customer if he asked
22:49 <GodTodd> you do tend to attract some of the rudest clientel i've ever seen
22:49 <GodTodd> heh
22:57 <beta_USA> Yes br is brazil (ISO 3166-1). People using xchat can use /country too.
23:01 <GodTodd> bah...not really all that important to me...was just curious :)
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23:07 <luke-jr> [16:04:30] <spidey> Rapha_: i'll cut your nuts off and feed them to my dog
23:07 <luke-jr> [16:04:44] <Rapha_> I dont have nuts
23:12 <beta_USA> XD
23:24 <luke-jr> hi wrtlprnft
23:35 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.org/lol
23:35 <spidey> woot lol
23:54 <beta_USA> top tell me that firefox is using 120% of my cpu -_-

Log from 2007-09-25:
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00:00 <Sticky_> didnt know fireffox was multi threaded
00:02 <beta_USA> hm, didn't think about the dual core. Isn't %CPU suposed to be % of BOTH cores ?
00:03 <Sticky_> nope
00:03 <beta_USA> oki
00:03 <Sticky_> 100% = 1 core on full load
00:15 <luke-jr> beta_USA: FireFox is bloated
00:23 <Stewie-arma> hmmm I need 3 events from 1400-1900
00:23 <Stewie-arma> 1. Napoleonic wars
00:23 <Stewie-arma> 2 more
00:27 <luke-jr> the protestant rebellion
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00:39 <GodTodd> Stewie-arma: civil war
00:39 <GodTodd> which, of course, was also bush's fault ;)
00:40 <Stewie-arma> lol
00:40 <Stewie-arma> Todd no American history sorry
00:41 <GodTodd> oh...well...you didn't say that :P
00:41 <Stewie-arma> yeah I know my fault on that
00:41 <GodTodd> can it not involve america at all?
00:41 <GodTodd> for instance...war of 1812 is not just american history...
00:42 <GodTodd> anywho...time for java class
00:48 <beta_USA> luke-jr: i know it's bloated. But other browsers doesn't have some extentions i like.
00:48 <beta_USA> I'd use konqueror otherwise
00:50 <luke-jr> Konqueror pwns ☺
00:56 <beta_USA> agree
00:57 <spidey> opera > firefox > everything else > konqueror
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01:00 <beta_USA> hum.
01:00 <beta_USA> don't agree here
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01:10 <luke-jr> spidey: shows what (little) you know
01:33 <spidey> yea.
01:33 <spidey> like
01:34 <spidey> spidey > everyone else > entire classification kingdom > luke-jr
01:34 <spidey> :P
01:35 <Vanhayes> #tea
01:35 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (5/32): +tinYcow+, mitchell, SlµQm$tEr, ubuntu, ~|DS|~|dvDosc|
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01:43 <GodTodd> heh... luke-jr showing eliteism again?
01:48 <Vanhayes> he stoped?
01:50 <GodTodd> yeah...whenever he stops talking/typing....then he speaks up and boom there it is again :)
02:01 <luke-jr> …
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04:05 <Vanhayes> #armagetron
04:05 <Vanhayes> er
04:05 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
04:05 <armabot> Vanhayes: This data is 0 seconds old; -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (11/12), Unnamed Server (9/16), Swampland II (8/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (7/10), Norm's Place (7/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (7/14), >3D> Eternal Destiny Clan Server ~{DF}~ (7/16), Wild West  =Team Sumo= (6/14), De5t!Ny's Sumo Treasure Island (6/10), Nexus9 (NO RUBBER!) (4/16), The Tavern (3/16), ¬| D u (1 more message)
04:06 <Vanhayes> #more
04:06 <armabot> Vanhayes: r k a  D u r k a  L an d | ¬ (3/16), G-Land (3/8), SPACEZONE II S (3/15), "USA CLAN" European CAPTURE THE FLAG server (2/12), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (1/12), |FA| Shrinkin-Angels (1/16)
04:06 <Vanhayes> #tea
04:06 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: No online players.
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04:40 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.wikihow.com/Calculate-Pi-by-Throwing-Frozen-Hot-Dogs
04:45 <Gursikh> is svn client compatible with server?
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05:01 <luke-jr> 0.2.8 svn will always be
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05:13 <Lucifer_arma> Gursikh: no, svn client is considered broken right now
05:13 <Gursikh> rgr thanks
05:20 <Lucifer_arma> unless you want to test zones v2 locally :)
05:43 <luke-jr> wow
05:43 <luke-jr> Arma works over X11 over LAN
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05:47 <spidey> Gursikh: unlike tremulous, even if a newer version isn't compatible with a older server and vise versa, there's always overrides so that client can still connect :P
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> that's mostly true, just that right now the trunk's broken due to zones v2 work
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> I have a hankering to play freeciv, but I better not
05:49 <spidey> all the fa servers have the overrides enabled :D
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> hey, I played a 2 hour freeciv game once
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> I played the tutorial :)
05:49 <spidey> haha
05:49 <luke-jr> O.o
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> also, newer clients almost always can play on older servers
05:50 <spidey> all of our servers except the sty servers use 0.3.0
05:50 <Lucifer_arma> it's more practical that way than the other, having newer servers allow older clients.  If the server uses a feature the client can't hope to accomodate, it's best to lock them out
05:50 <Lucifer_arma> 0.3.0 didn't have incompatible changes to the server, did it?
05:50 <Gursikh> spidey: for tremulous, backport fte
05:51 <spidey> dunno
05:51 <Gursikh> ftw*
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> the trunk does, and that's on philippe's todo list.  Make sure zones v2 gets transmitted to older clients in a reasonable way
05:51 <spidey> Gursikh: the svn client should work out of the repo
05:51 <spidey> not have to apply patches to see more than 1 server
05:52 <Gursikh> I dont see why, it's up to the server ops to run newer protocol version
05:52 <spidey> it's upto the devs to keep svn upto date
05:53 <Gursikh> svn is up to date...
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/target.htm
05:53 <spidey> Gursikh: not if you can't see more than 1 server, it's not :)
05:53 <Gursikh> what are you talking about? How does make svn out of date?
05:54 <Gursikh> The devs run 2 svn servers, and one other person sometimes does (your budd(
05:54 <spidey> it's lacking a feature they supply in there packages?
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05:54 <Gursikh> you're not making any sense
05:54 <spidey> i never do :D
05:55 <Lucifer_arma> neither of you are making any sense
05:55 <spidey> Lucifer_arma: u
05:56 <Lucifer_arma> no, you
05:56 <spidey> NO U!
05:56 <Lucifer_arma> YOU!
05:56 <Lucifer_arma> uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
05:56 <spidey> ok fine, luke-jr
05:56 <Lucifer_arma> I agree
05:56 <spidey> :D
05:56 <Lucifer_arma> speaking of luke-jr, here's a picture of him:
05:56 <Lucifer_arma> http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/klaxon.htm
05:57 <spidey> haha
05:58 <spidey> oh yea
05:58 <spidey> Lucifer_arma: i finally got something "decent" working
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> you took your bra off?
05:59 <spidey> damn it, you was supposed to say that in private chat >:|
06:00 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.org/lol
06:00 <spidey> it's not perfect, but it works
06:00 <spidey> multircon saved the trouble of using stdin
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> I don't read bash!
06:01 <spidey> lol
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> I got half way through it before I remembered that, though
06:02 <Lucifer_arma> man, now I want to go into armastart and make it possible to process input and call callbacks, then add a little irc relay bot
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> wouldn't be that hard, just use CONSOLE_MESSAGE to write the irc text, and color the name some way that indicates it's from the irc channel
06:03 <spidey> i embeded "thebot" into meh trembot
06:03 <spidey> because i was to lazy to make one XD
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> well, you could write up a little plugin for supybot that just writes irc chat to a pipe and reads from a pipe
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> then make armastart read from the pipe and pass to the server, and write output from the server to that other pipe
06:04 <spidey> you know what
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> the real problem with that is that you'd need a separate bot in this channel for every arma server
06:05 <spidey> i tried converting the roulette game in the games plugin to bash
06:05 <spidey> for somereason the odds are 1:8 instead of 1:6
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> random numbers get you?
06:05 <spidey> lol
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> you mean the odds in the roulette game are 1:8?
06:05 <spidey> spam
06:05 <spidey> maxnum=6
06:05 <spidey> 		number=1
06:05 <spidey> 		num=$RANDOM
06:05 <spidey> 		let "num %= $maxnum"
06:05 <spidey> 		if [ "$num" -eq $number ]
06:06 <spidey> i don't see where it gets 8
06:06 <spidey> but it does
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> $num should be a number from 0-5, right?
06:06 <spidey> 1-6
06:06 <spidey> afaik
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> num %= $maxnum <--- that's a modulus operation, right?
06:07 <spidey> i believe so, yes
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> you get 0-(thenumber-1) from modulus
06:08 <Lucifer_arma> because it's the remainder from division.  If the remainder was 6, you could divide 6 into the number one more time and get a remainder of 0 :)
06:08 <Lucifer_arma> 12/6 = 2, or 12/6 = 1 with a remainder of 6
06:08 <Lucifer_arma> see?
06:08 <spidey> ah
06:08 <spidey> yea
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> $RANDOM is some reserved word in bash that gives you a random number?
06:09 <spidey> it's like
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, that's what it's doing for me
06:09 <spidey> $((RANDOM%6)) and it gives you a random number between 0 and 6
06:10 <spidey> that's what i used last time
06:10 <spidey> but it wasn't like roulette, it was basically you do it untill you get a 0
06:10 <Durka> hi luci :D
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> that's working for me
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, that's not roulette either
06:10 <Gursikh> Durka: nano-sumo = super fun
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> armabot's roulette doesn't work that way either
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> what you really want to do is make an array of boolean values
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> initialize them all to false
06:11 <spidey> yea, i was trying to mimic armabot's roulette
06:11 <spidey> oo
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> then every round, add a bullet to a random element in the array
06:11 <spidey> i didn't think of using arrays
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> pick a random element, and if it's true, it fired
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> set that element to false and do it again :)
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> when you spin, just shuffle the array
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> now, the logic gets a little crazy here
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> you might prefer to only have one loaded chamber at a time
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> otherwise you need some mechanism to tell the bot to load another chamber
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> the traditional view of russian roulette is that the chamber gets a new bullet after everyone has spun it and pulled the trigger
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> not really a way to track that here, so maybe you just say everytime the same nickname plays, a new bullet is loaded
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> you'd have to track nicknames then, though, and also do timeouts
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> can get crazy then :/
06:14 <spidey> yea
06:14 <spidey> i like armabot's roulette better :D
06:14 <Durka> #roulette
06:14 <armabot> Durka: *click*
06:14 <Durka> !!
06:14 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o armabot] by ChanServ
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> #roulette
06:14 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: *click*
06:15 <Durka> #roulette
06:15 <@armabot> Durka: *click*
06:15 <Durka> :D
06:15 <Lucifer_arma> #roulette
06:15 -!- Lucifer_arma was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
06:15  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
06:15 <Durka> haha
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06:15 <Durka> wb :P
06:15 <Lucifer_arma> re :)
06:15 <GodTodd> you all suck
06:16 <Durka> Lucifer_arma sux
06:16 <spidey> alright
06:16 <Durka> luke-jr *
06:16 <spidey> i think i know how to do it
06:16 <spidey> brb
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06:17 <@Lucifer_arma> weee, that was fun
06:18 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o Lucifer_arma] by ChanServ
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> that wasn't fun.  You can automatically OP yourself everywhere, but you can't automatically deop yourself everywhere
06:19 <spidey> lol
06:19 <GodTodd> suck suck suck suck suck
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06:20 <Lucifer_arma> #last --from luke-jr --nolimit
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06:20 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: [05:48:07] <luke-jr> O.o, [05:41:58] <luke-jr> Arma works over X11 over LAN, [05:41:50] <luke-jr> wow, [05:00:32] <luke-jr> 0.2.8 svn will always be, [02:00:36] <luke-jr> …, [01:09:24] <luke-jr> spidey: shows what (little) you know, [00:49:13] <luke-jr> Konqueror pwns ☺, [00:26:37] <luke-jr> the protestant rebellion, [00:14:42] <luke-jr> beta_USA: FireFox is bloated, [23:22:55] (50 more messages)
06:20 <GodTodd> fucker :)
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> I wish there was a way to CTRL-C armabot
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> man, I'm starting to wonder if I'm going to survive my martial arts class
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> we did a workout today with the medicine ball that's got my thigh muscles so tired I can barely walk :/
06:25 <GodTodd> heh
06:25 <GodTodd> you're not 18 anymore dude :)
06:25 <spidey> you're like what,90?
06:25 <spidey> :D
06:26 <GodTodd>  /kick spidey
06:26 <GodTodd> :)
06:27 <GodTodd> grrr...wtf is konversation's setting for auto rejoin?
06:49 <GodTodd> bah flergle
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07:33 <Vanhayes> #roulette
07:33 <armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
07:33 <Vanhayes> #roulette
07:33 <armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
07:34 <Vanhayes> #roulette
07:34 <armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
07:34 <Vanhayes> #roulette
07:34 <armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
07:34 <Vanhayes> #roulette
07:34 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
07:34  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
07:35 <Vanhayes> #onlineplayers
07:35 <armabot> Vanhayes: This data is 54 seconds old; -:R:- Rogue, ., .dBd| nano |, .Jazz'h, 1984, AD996, alpha ceti, austin, A_Nub~|tbb|~, DDMJ, gypsy king, jasontokarchuk, Kilfer, String | {, |x| Legit, ~tbBt|neonin, ~TPRice
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08:42 <Stewie-arma> #armaservers
08:42 <armabot> Stewie-arma: This data is 34 seconds old; Swampland in 0.2.8 (4/8), Fortress Café (4/32), ·>1:SealBar· (3/16), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (3/12), ~"XzL.Clan The Server (2/12), De5t!Ny's Sumo Treasure Island (1/10)
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09:45 <Stewie-arma> woah
09:45 <Stewie-arma> did that happen to anyone else right then?
09:47 <luke-jr> hum
09:47 <luke-jr> Opera seems to be buggy!
09:47 <luke-jr> :p
10:01 <beta_USA> lol
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12:51 <z-man-work> Hmm, NASA measured that some bacteria tripple their chance to infect when sent on a space flight...
12:52 <z-man-work> Only got a German link, sorry: http://www.heise.de/tp/r4/artikel/26/26268/1.html
12:53 <z-man-work> I want to do that with amoebae, maybe they return as The Blob?
13:38 <Sticky_> http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/09/25/2042694.htm
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16:51 <epsy> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=191987#191987
16:51 <epsy> <Zman> What is the purpose of the division into continents?
16:51 <epsy> <Hellion> its by where you live
16:52 <epsy> made me smile :)
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19:39 <Lucifer_arma> that article's misleading
19:39 <Lucifer_arma> it looks like the culture was grown in space, which seems to indicate that the salmonella that were born in space were deadlier than the ones born on earth
19:39 <Lucifer_arma> we should try that with humans :)
19:43 <epsy> Lucifer_arma, when comes afl_settings 0.0.2 ? :p
19:57 <Lucifer_arma> epsy: aren't we on 0.1.1 right now?
19:57 <Lucifer_arma> I need to know that the package I made works, then I'll just quietly reversion it to final and release it :)
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20:12 <xfroggy> epsy, boo
20:18 <epsy> xfroggy, iiiiiiih
20:18 <Lucifer_arma> Lucifer_arma: boob
20:18 <epsy> xfroggy, brb i'm eating
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20:30 <epsy> xfroggy, boo
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20:53 <xfroggy> epsy, :D
20:59 <epsy> xfroggy, please, tell me if you do it on sat or on sunday
20:59 <xfroggy> epsy, that's what I'm trying to confirm Oo
20:59 <xfroggy> how many people u want?
21:00 <epsy> 6 v 6 would be the best for an afl train
21:00 <xfroggy> oh man
21:00 <epsy> but if you can't :p
21:00 <epsy> we'ill play with less then
21:00 <xfroggy> i dont think we even got that many
21:01 <xfroggy> I still waiting for answer from JJ & flash
21:01 <xfroggy> that would b 5 if they can make it
21:01 <epsy> well
21:01 <epsy> flash is on café
21:01 <xfroggy> right now?
21:02 <epsy> yes
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21:09 <xfroggy> epsy, meh
21:09 <xfroggy> at best it's going to be 4 vs 4
21:09 <xfroggy> flash can't make it either
21:12 <epsy> ok
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21:23 <epsy> xfroggy, best of 3 ? 5 ?
21:25 <xfroggy> sure
21:25 <xfroggy> 3 out 5 *
21:25 <xfroggy> I'm thinkin
21:25 <epsy> ok
21:26 <epsy> so i think we can make play all our team :p
21:26 <xfroggy> epsy, I'm gonna try to track down JJ, if he can't make it then I guess we going to have to call it off :/
21:26 <xfroggy> Oo
21:26 <epsy> #lastseen jjbean
21:26 <armabot> epsy: .:] JJBean has last been seen on  Wild West  =Fortress= 17 hours 1 minute ago.
21:26 <xfroggy> 17 hours Oo
21:26 <xfroggy> he usually at night
21:37 <epsy> mh
21:37 <epsy> xfroggy, so satursday 20 GMT ? 18 GMT ?
21:38 <epsy> 20GMT k :p
21:41 <Vanhayes> #tea
21:41 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (10/32): .:] JJBean, Bishop, hoop, Kamakazi, pavelo, Picanto, preSs, Zop, ~*$P*~<y<lo, ~*SP*~Pez
21:42 <epsy> xfroggy, btw, we do it on our home server or on yours ?
21:57 <epsy> xfroggy,
21:57 <epsy> #lastseen jj
21:57 <armabot> epsy: .:] JJBean seems to be on Fortress Café right now.
21:57 <epsy> :)
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22:08 <G5_Ger> #tea
22:08 <armabot> G5_Ger: Fortress Café: Players (9/32): .:] JJBean, buGzi, epsy|T|, hoop, Kamakazi, Soups, Vanhayes, \|/ Indiana, |<-Yo
22:08 <Lucifer_arma> my daughter thinks I"m silly
22:08 <Lucifer_arma> my wife called her, and she comes out "What?  You're calling me again?"
22:08 <Lucifer_arma> I said "No, she's calling you Victoria"
22:08 <Lucifer_arma> she gave me this "shut up, daddy" look
22:33 <xfroggy> epsy, it shouldn't matter about homeserver, whichever one you got available at hand without any hassle, I think that's the better one :D
22:35 <xfroggy> #lastseen jj
22:35 <armabot> xfroggy: .:] JJBean has last been seen on Fortress Café 14 minutes ago.
22:35 <xfroggy> bah
22:35 <epsy> xfroggy, we have our own homeserver :)
22:36 <xfroggy> good :)
22:36 <xfroggy> as long as a ping is below 200 I ain't b****ing
22:36 <xfroggy> :D
22:37 <GodTodd> blarking? ;)
22:37 <xfroggy> :D
22:39 <Lucifer_arma> bellowing?
22:40 <epsy> #sd tronic donkeys
22:40 <armabot> epsy: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “tronic donkeys” at the moment, sorry.
22:40 <epsy> #sd tronic donkey
22:40 <armabot> epsy: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “tronic donkey” at the moment, sorry.
22:40 <epsy> #sd tronic
22:40 <armabot> epsy: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “tronic” at the moment, sorry.
22:40  * epsy slaps noob13 
22:40 <epsy> oops
22:40  * epsy slaps noob7
22:41 <epsy> ^^
22:41 <epsy> #tea
22:41 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (3/32): dvorak, hoop, iplay
22:41 <epsy> err
22:41 <epsy> #sd donkeys
22:41 <armabot> epsy: The Tronic Donkeys AFL Server: No online players.
22:42 <epsy> I hear'd noob7 making Adjustments!
22:44 <xfroggy> no way...
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22:46 <ak47nika> =) hello
22:46 <xfroggy> #hello
22:46 <ak47nika> zomg its p4
22:46 <armabot> Hello xfroggy :) Quote #4: "left vertical bar is brakes, right one is an early-90s roleplaying game made by White Wolf before they went all Magic: The Gathering happy -- armabot (markov)" (added by a user that is no longer registered at 06:24 AM, March 27, 2006)
22:46 <ak47nika> could anyone tell me what a good keyboard combination is good
22:46 <xfroggy> lol
22:46 <xfroggy> for what setup
22:46 <ak47nika> m turning
22:46 <ak47nika> left .. right
22:46 <xfroggy> ?
22:46 <ak47nika> i got
22:46 <xfroggy> rubber...fort
22:46 <xfroggy> ??
22:46 <ak47nika> zx
22:46 <ak47nika> for left
22:47 <ak47nika> and ./ for right
22:47 <xfroggy> Oo
22:47 <xfroggy> I got zx and left&right arrows
22:47 <ak47nika> so whats ur bind
22:47 <ak47nika> 189
22:47 <ak47nika> 180
22:47 <ak47nika> oh oh
22:47 <xfroggy> -.-
22:47 <ak47nika> zx and left right
22:47 <ak47nika> sorta like mine
22:48 <ak47nika> so i guess im ok there
22:48 <ak47nika> <- noobster
22:48 <xfroggy> yea as long as your hands feel comfortable
22:48 <ak47nika> aite coo =)
22:48 <ak47nika> xfroggy u plain somehwere now =)
22:48  * xfroggy remembers Legit's keyboard setup and goes into panic
22:48 <xfroggy> nope :P
22:48 <ak47nika> Legit's hehe ?
22:48 <xfroggy> i dont even remember, it was complicated
22:48 <ak47nika> aite i just had that one question
22:49 <ak47nika> thanks frogs
22:49 <xfroggy> np :D
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22:51  * epsy uses a very noobish kb layout
22:51 <epsy> right crtl and shift for left
22:51 <xfroggy> lol can't me more n00bs than mine
22:51 <xfroggy> wow
22:51 <xfroggy> lol
22:51 <epsy> 1, 0 from numpad for right
22:51 <epsy> arrows for glancing
22:51 <xfroggy> i wouldn't feel comfortable with that setup
22:52 <epsy> brake down arrow
22:52 <epsy> toggle brake up arrow x)
22:52 <xfroggy> lol i got like 3 brakes, up&down arrow, and space
22:52 <epsy> i'm also on a real kb :p
22:52 <epsy> and the rest of my keyboard is dedicated to instant chats
22:52 <xfroggy> LOL!
22:52 <epsy> P
22:52 <epsy> :P *
22:53 <epsy> F keys for yes/no then the 8 smileys then hoax's LOL! and my clan's homepage
22:54 <epsy> all the num keys and back space for team messages
22:54 <epsy> the rest is the randmon crap
22:54 <xfroggy> damn epsy...
22:54 <epsy> ah...and my chat key is insert :p
22:54 <epsy> lol
22:54 <xfroggy> i had that as my spec then I realized I been pushing it accidentally for no reason
22:55 <epsy> i know it's infuckingcredible :p
22:55 <xfroggy> very... amazing you still find the time to actually play it
22:55 <epsy> to play what ? :p
22:55 <xfroggy> tron
22:55 <epsy> hm?
22:55 <xfroggy> in between doing all the configs and setting up ur spam messages
22:55 <xfroggy> and then spamming the room
22:55 <xfroggy> :D
22:56 <epsy> ah pause for spec, print screen for shots :p
22:56 <xfroggy> LOL
22:56 <epsy> lol you didn't got enough uinstant chats :p
22:56 <xfroggy> yea I can tell :P
22:56 <xfroggy> amazing you actually remember them all
22:56 <xfroggy> lol
22:56 <epsy> lol
22:57 <epsy> i still remember i made a shot...
22:58 <xfroggy> ?
22:58 <epsy> ah
22:58 <epsy> http://epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539/~epsy/screenshots/arma-team/screenshot_237.png
23:01 <xfroggy> wow
23:01 <epsy> hrhr
23:02 <xfroggy> jeez
23:02 <xfroggy> epsy, how much is enough? lol
23:02 <epsy> whatever
23:02 <epsy> :P
23:02 <epsy> 106 is enough
23:02 <xfroggy> how many is too many?
23:02 <xfroggy> lol
23:02 <xfroggy> jeez default only 25 lol
23:02 <epsy> *26
23:03 <xfroggy> 25...
23:03 <xfroggy> at least in 2821
23:03  * epsy read 2821 as a year
23:04 <xfroggy> :D
23:05 <epsy> i'm wondering when i'ill get basic design skills :p
23:07 <epsy> k i'm off
23:07 <epsy> have fun, see you
23:07 <xfroggy>  bye :D
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00:11 <G5_Ger> #tea
00:11 <armabot> G5_Ger: Fortress Café: No online players.
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02:17 <Vanhayes> #ping
02:17 <armabot> pong
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03:00 <Vanhayes> spidey: luke-jr GodTodd Lucifer_arma Freciv!!
03:02 <luke-jr> NO
03:03 <luke-jr> STFU
03:03 <luke-jr> I'm already playing ☺
03:03 <Vanhayes> no, You stfu
03:04 <Vanhayes> the ai winning again luke-jr ?
03:04 <luke-jr> no
03:04 <luke-jr> there are no AI
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03:57 <spidey> hm
03:57 <spidey> up 14 days :D
03:57 <spidey> that's 10 days longer than windows would be up before bitching at me :S
03:57 <spidey> tho, i have had to restart xserver because it was acting weird
03:58 <luke-jr> you mean nVidia drivers were acting weird
03:58 <spidey> no
03:58 <spidey> i have my nvidia card overclocked and it still runs fine
03:58 <spidey> way better than the ati did
03:59 <spidey> on linux anyways
03:59 <spidey> the nvidia runs a bit slower on windows
04:00 <spidey> tho
04:00 <spidey> i'm thinking about reformatting everypartition
04:02 <spidey> and redoing it as my main driver in 3 40 gig partitions for gentoo, ubuntu and a 3rd for trying other stuff :D
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04:23  * Stewie-arma has delicious moon cakes
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06:17 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
06:17 <armabot> Vanhayes: This data is 18 seconds old; Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (8/10), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (8/10), ¬| D u r k a  D u r k a  L an d | ¬ (6/16), >3D> Eternal Destiny Clan Server ~{DF}~ (6/16), Nexus9 (NO RUBBER!) (4/16), Norm's Place (4/12), Emagin (4/16), ~"XzL.Clan The Server (3/12), Swampland II (2/16), Wild West  =Fortress Shootout= (2/12)
06:22 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
06:22 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 79.9°F (10:58 PM CDT on September 25, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 69.8°F. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015.1 hPa (Rising).
06:29 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
06:29 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 55°F / 13°C | Humidity: 82% | Pressure: 29.81in / 1009hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h | Updated: 1:00 AM ADT; Tonight - A few clouds. Low 18C(64F).; Wednesday - Sunny. Becoming cloudy in the afternoon with 60 percent chance of showers. Wind becoming southwest 20 km/h (12 mph) gusting to 40 km/h (25 mph) in the afternoon. High (1 more message)
06:29 <Vanhayes> #weather red deer
06:29 <armabot> Vanhayes: The current temperature in Red Deer, Alberta is 39.2°F (10:00 PM MDT on September 25, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 33.8°F. Windchill: 32.0°F. Pressure: 29.97 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
06:29 <Vanhayes> #finc 39.2
06:29 <armabot> Vanhayes: 4
06:37 <Vanhayes> #night
06:37 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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06:47 <luke-jr> spidey: redoing it as your main driver? wtf?
06:48 <spidey> drive, foo
06:48 <spidey> you know what i ment -.-
06:48 <luke-jr> spidey: as far as saving/restoring the Gentoo partition, tar cjvpf /backup.tbz2 / --exclude=/backup.tbz2
06:48 <luke-jr> or perhaps just delete Windows and resize the ext3
06:49 <luke-jr> I think resizing ext3 should be plenty safe
06:58 <GodTodd> don't do it, it's a trap!
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07:28 <Stewie-arma> #night
07:28 <armabot> Good night Stewie-arma!
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07:34 <luke-jr> GodTodd: civ?
07:34 <luke-jr> spidey: Lucifer_arma
07:35  * GodTodd gently reminds luke-jr that he will never play a game with him again.
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07:36  * luke-jr hangs GodTodd
07:36 <GodTodd> i told you a while back to never call on me to play a game with you ever again...i meant it
07:37 <luke-jr> GodTodd: civ?
07:37 <GodTodd> are you annoying, or just plain stupid?
07:37 <luke-jr> GodTodd: civ?
07:37 <GodTodd> stupid it is
07:37 <luke-jr> GodTodd: civ?
07:38  * GodTodd loves ignore
07:38 <luke-jr> GodTodd: civ?
07:39 <GodTodd> man...it is nice and quiet in here without little boys talking...
09:14 <Lucifer_arma> hi!
09:34  * tramshed sets up a luke-jr relay bot
09:37 <luke-jr> tramshed: thx
09:37 <luke-jr> how do I use it?
09:37 <tramshed> lol
09:37 <tramshed> I didnt really, but I could
09:37 <luke-jr> s☺
09:37 <luke-jr> ☺
09:37 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft banned me from using armabot for that
09:37 <tramshed> lol
09:38 <tramshed> we used to have this chan and one on efnet linked together
09:38 <luke-jr> I know
09:38 <luke-jr> I was there
09:38 <luke-jr> back before there was really a chan
09:38 <tramshed> oh yeah, you were werent you
09:38 <luke-jr> it was just like you me and 2 other guys
09:38 <tramshed> cuz we had 3 nets linked iirc
09:38 <luke-jr> and I think I was the only current arma player
09:39 <tramshed> I played
09:39 <luke-jr> you played like 0.2.5
09:39 <luke-jr> or some ancient ver
09:39 <wrtlprnft> #list
09:39 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Insult, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
09:39 <tramshed> 2.6
09:39 <wrtlprnft> #list admin
09:39 <armabot> wrtlprnft: capability add, capability remove, channels, ignore add, ignore list, ignore remove, join, nick, and part
09:39 <tramshed> because 2.7 was broken
09:39 <wrtlprnft> #admin ignore list
09:39 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 'TitsnAss!n=TitsnAss@c-24-5-241-188.hsd1.ca.comcast.net' and 'luke-jr!n=luke-jr@2002:1891:f663:0:20e:a6ff:fec4:4e5d'
09:39 <tramshed> the rubber wasnt right on it
09:39 <tramshed> haha
09:40 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: wtf ☹
09:40 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: I thought my ban was just verbal
09:40 <luke-jr> #echo hi
09:40 <armabot> hi
09:40 <luke-jr> err
09:40 <luke-jr> weird
09:40 <wrtlprnft> #admin ignore remove luke-jr!n=luke-jr@2002:1891:f663:0:20e:a6ff:fec4:4e5d
09:40 <luke-jr> maybe it is
09:40 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
09:40 <luke-jr> oh, IP change :p
09:40 <wrtlprnft> just use it wisely.
09:40 <tramshed> its not the same ip
09:41 <luke-jr> tramshed: or so you say
09:41 <tramshed> 2002:1891 and 2002:48ce can be reasonably assumed to not be the same ip, heh
09:41 <tramshed> now, they  might be the same place
09:42 <luke-jr> tramshed: nope, 200 miles away
09:42 <luke-jr> :p
09:42 <tramshed> lol
09:42 <wrtlprnft> isn't banning one ipv6 IP sort of pointless?
09:42 <tramshed> indeed
09:42 <tramshed> ive got a /48 and /64
09:43 <luke-jr> 2002:1891:f663:0:20e:a6ff:fec4:4e5d and 2002:48ce:72ec:0:20e:a6ff:fec4:4e5d are the same PCs, note
09:43 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: not really
09:43 <luke-jr> it depends on what you're wanting to ban
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10:21 <eddiefantastic> hi kidanger
10:21 <kidanger> Hey eddie !
10:22 <eddiefantastic> how you getting on with moving zones and the like?
10:22 <kidanger> I won't do a server :'( I stop to try it
10:24 <eddiefantastic> shame
10:24 <kidanger> #t en fr shame
10:24 <armabot> kidanger: honte
10:24 <kidanger> I know
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12:57 <tramshed> #help
12:57 <armabot> tramshed: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
12:58 <tramshed> #help all
12:58 <armabot> tramshed: Error: There is no command "all".
12:58 <tramshed> hah
12:58 <tramshed> is there a server stats command?
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13:32 <eddiefantastic> #more
13:32 <armabot> eddiefantastic: {100MBit} (1/10)
13:32 <eddiefantastic> ?
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15:56 <MrBougo> lamps are awesome
15:56 <MrBougo> i should say LAMPs but it doesnt sound funny
16:04 <akira_> ?
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17:29 <akira_> hi MaZ
17:38 <MaZuffeR> hi
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20:15 <Vanhayes> #tea
20:15 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: No online players.
20:15 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
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20:47 <Lucifer_arma> http://technocrat.net/d/2007/9/26/27618
21:08 <wrtlprnft> so those birds have a builtin HUD?
21:08  * wrtlprnft wants a built-in GPS system!
21:09 <noob7> they dont have a gps, they have to come up with their positions themselves based on the magnetic fields, right?
21:09 <wrtlprnft> maybe in the area where you usually see your nose, it's kind of boring to look at it all the time
21:09 <wrtlprnft> i know
21:09 <wrtlprnft> but if they can have a compass i want a GPS :D
21:09 <noob7> hehe
21:10 <wrtlprnft> note that those birds existed before there was anyone to even think about sattelites
21:10 <wrtlprnft> *satellites
21:11 <noob7> even before someone came up with a compass... rather scary
21:12 <wrtlprnft> heh
21:13  * wrtlprnft wonders if a migratory bird would find its way with a small magnet tied to its neck
21:13 <noob7> :)
21:14 <noob7> now is the time to try
21:15 <wrtlprnft> true
21:15 <wrtlprnft> somebody probably already did
21:16 <noob7> not a reason to not try again
21:17 <wrtlprnft> it probably won't be a fun experience for the bird
21:18 <Lucifer_arma> ?
21:19 <Lucifer_arma> birds aren't that dumb
21:19 <Lucifer_arma> betcha the bird just flies a few feet, then takes the magnet off
21:19 <Lucifer_arma> curious how that might affect their choice of landing on electrical wires
21:21 <Lucifer_arma> if the magnetoscape (heh) actually provides something resembling a terrain overlay, this thing could very well give GPS-like function
21:21 <Lucifer_arma> the trick is the bird would have to recognize what he sees, of course
21:21 <Lucifer_arma> but the bird gets another complete set of reference points :/
21:26 <wrtlprnft> well, obviously you'd fix that magnet to the bird in a way so it can't get it off
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21:39 <epsy> wrtlprnft, can you do the match satursday ?
21:56 <wrtlprnft> err, i sent you an e-mail
21:57 <wrtlprnft> the answer is “most likely”
21:59 <Lucifer_arma> there is the obvious question of whether or not a bird can carry a magnet
21:59 <Lucifer_arma> if a magnet weighs the same as a coconut...
22:00 <wrtlprnft> note that I said “SMALL magnet”
22:00 <wrtlprnft> there's neodym magnets that have a considerable strength while weighting very little
22:07  * spidey ties a remote controlled super magnet to wrtlprnft and puts him in a solid metal room
22:08 <wrtlprnft> as long as you put me far away enough from harddrives that store any information relevant to me…
22:09 <wrtlprnft> and place me close enough to the centre of the room
22:12 <Lucifer_arma> oh fuck, I forgot to look at the millikan's apparatus we have at work to see what it does
22:12 <wrtlprnft> http://operawatch.com/news/2007/09/opera-vs-firefox-vs-internet-explorer-picture.html ← lol
22:13 <wrtlprnft> isn't that the thing with charded oil drops hovering inside a capacitator?
22:13 <wrtlprnft> *charged
22:13 <Lucifer_arma> worst car metaphor of all time
22:14 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, that's what millikan's experiment was
22:14 <Lucifer_arma> we have something related to the experiment in the physics lab, but after hearing my chem teacher explain millikan's experiment in detail, I got skeptical of what we have
22:14 <wrtlprnft> what's so special about it? We've got one at school and you need some imagination to figure out e
22:14 <Lucifer_arma> so I intended to fool with it last night and see, but forgot
22:15 <wrtlprnft> but it works :)
22:15 <Lucifer_arma> you've got one that does his actual experiment?
22:15 <wrtlprnft> yeah
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22:16 <MaZuffeR> anyone have a good suggestion for a topic for a 15min presentation, has to have something to do with physics or math?
22:17 <Lucifer_arma> present millikan's experiment :)
22:17 <MaZuffeR> dont think that'll be enough for 15mins
22:17 <wrtlprnft> huh?
22:17 <Lucifer_arma> sound waves are always good for it
22:17 <wrtlprnft> two people in my course did a presentation on it (doing the actual experiment), and it took almost an hour
22:17 <Lucifer_arma> you can talk about those for 5 minutes to 500 minutes if you want :)
22:18 <GodTodd> http://www.politopia.com/quiz_index.php3
22:18 <wrtlprnft> talk about pascal's triangle, that's always fun :D
22:20 <MaZuffeR> maybe, but i'd prefer something related physics
22:21 <wrtlprnft> one can even extend it into three dimensions: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/pascal3.png
22:22 <wrtlprnft> probably not useful for anything, though
22:22 <epsy> wrtlprnft, ah?
22:23 <wrtlprnft> ?
22:23 <epsy> <wrtlprnft> err, i sent you an e-mail
22:23 <Lucifer_arma> I'm in the southwest
22:23 <Lucifer_arma> wtf?
22:24 <GodTodd> so am i
22:24 <GodTodd> heh
22:24 <epsy> wrtlprnft, well i didn't got your mail but i edited the post
22:24 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/mail.txt
22:24 <MaZuffeR> epsy: i will know tomorrow if i can play or not, i probably can but not 100% sure yet
22:25 <Lucifer_arma> explain how a hydrogen bomb works
22:25 <epsy> ok
22:25 <GodTodd> Hillary Clinton might be my "neighbor" on that quiz...but she sure as hell ain't getting my vote ;)
22:25 <Lucifer_arma> I put I would vote for her if the election were held today
22:25 <wrtlprnft> but if it was held tomorrow you wouldn't?
22:26 <epsy> #time
22:26 <armabot> epsy: 10:24 PM, September 26, 2007
22:26 <GodTodd> i put Giuliani...simply because i don't much like any of them
22:26 <Lucifer_arma> because the republicans have thrown up a bunch of blood sucking asshats (as usual), and the democrats have thrown up mostly crackpots and newbies
22:26 <epsy> strange i didn't got it
22:26 <epsy> it's not in my junk folder either
22:26 <Lucifer_arma> hillary looks sane in the crowd that's running right now
22:26 <Lucifer_arma> scary as it is
22:26 <Lucifer_arma> I'd almost rather have bush for another 4 years than pick from the lot that's running
22:27 <GodTodd> i'm waiting to do real candidate research until after the primaries
22:27 <MaZuffeR> the hydrogen bomb mechanism is actually quite interesting
22:27 <GodTodd> that way i only research the ones that are still standing
22:28 <GodTodd> at least i was way across the map from rush limbaugh
22:28 <GodTodd> fucking moron
22:28 <Lucifer_arma> heh
22:28 <Lucifer_arma> MaZuffeR: yes, it is :)
22:28 <Lucifer_arma> just make sure there aren't any CIA agents in your class
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22:29 <GodTodd> if there are, my teacher would probably recognize them
22:29 <Lucifer_arma> but since he's not a republican, he wouldn't squeal, would he?
22:29 <GodTodd> he won't say what he is
22:29 <GodTodd> he refuses to tell us
22:30 <GodTodd> he wants to see if we can tell at the end of the class
22:30 <GodTodd> he strikes me as republican tho
22:31 <GodTodd> but not a nutso "if the gop says it is then it is, no question" republican
22:31 <GodTodd> #monologue
22:31 <armabot> GodTodd: Your current monologue is at least 6 lines long.
22:31 <Lucifer_arma> he's probably older, so loves the republican party even though he's leaning democrat in idealogy these days
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22:32 <GodTodd> he's in his 50s or so
22:32 <GodTodd> late 40s to early 50s i think
22:32 <Lucifer_arma> ah hell, the Democratic party more closely resembles the "party of Lincoln" than this worthless republican tripe we've got
22:32 <GodTodd> heh
22:33 <GodTodd> i'm just more and more disillusioned with our whole political system with each election cycle
22:33 <GodTodd> we need a coup
22:33 <Lucifer_arma> the only thing less annoying than a right-wing jesus-loving nutjob is a left-wing democratic crackpot
22:33 <GodTodd> or smth
22:33 <GodTodd> yep
22:33 <Lucifer_arma> we need to rewrite the constitution
22:33 <Lucifer_arma> this time, instead of lawyers, we need to get programmers to write it
22:33 <GodTodd> spoken like a true texan ;)
22:35 <GodTodd> the problem is that politics is a full time job
22:35 <GodTodd> so people want to stay in office no matter what so's they get the payday
22:36 <GodTodd> we need to make it part time somehow and make the pay negligible
22:36 <GodTodd> then you get people that *want* to do well instead of just stay in office
22:37 <GodTodd> or we just go socialist and screw personal freedoms
22:37 <GodTodd> since we keep giving them up little by little anyways
22:39 <GodTodd> we also definitely need to institute WalSchools
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23:01 <Lucifer_arma> nah, our texas legislature is part time and that's not working out for them
23:02 <Lucifer_arma> private schools are fine, but I want the tuition to be given to the people by the government
23:02 <Lucifer_arma> so everybody gets an allowance for education, and they get to pick where to spend it
23:02 <Lucifer_arma> (no, don't give it to them in cash!)
23:02 <Lucifer_arma> so we still have public education, but we also get the competitive market going
23:15 <Vanhayes> #tea
23:15 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: No online players.
23:15 <akira__> :(
23:16 <akira__> #armaservers
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23:16 <akira__> .......
23:16 <akira__> no cooment to that
23:16 <akira__> comment*
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00:20 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: that's a viable option for education that i agree with as well...anything to bring competition into the educational arena
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01:41 <spidey__> Lucifer_arma: government shouldn't have anything to do with education
01:42 <spidey__> look at the facts, most competitions homeschoolers where in, the people homeschooled won by a pretty good margin
01:42 <spidey__> what's that tell you? :)
01:42 <spidey__> spelling bee's
01:42 <spidey__> math
01:42 <luke-jr> spidey__: public schools are not intented to educate
01:42 <spidey__> obviously :D
01:42 <spidey__> they do decent
01:43 <luke-jr> not at all
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01:45 <Sticky_> #tea
01:45 <armabot> Sticky_: Fortress Café: No online players.
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02:04 <Vanhayes> luke-jr: uh what are public schools intended to do then ?
02:05 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: indoctrinate
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02:55 <GodTodd> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070927/ap_on_re_us/patriot_act_lawsuit
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04:01 <Lucifer_arma> spidey__: are you offering yourself as a homeschool example?
04:01 <Lucifer_arma> homeschool fills a niche that wouldn't exist if our education system wasn't so fucked up
04:10 <spidey__> Lucifer_arma: i can be a example
04:10 <spidey__> for example
04:10 <spidey__> i've learned more in the past 2 years than i did with 2 years of public school
04:10 <spidey__> i went through 3 years of school in less than 2 years
04:11 <Lucifer_arma> but you said spelling bees and math competitions :)
04:11 <Lucifer_arma> look, I totally agree that right now, homeschooling beats the hell out of public school
04:11 <Lucifer_arma> public school is just government-funded daycare
04:11 <spidey__> i could probably do better than most people in 11th grade maybe
04:12 <Lucifer_arma> but I don't think that mass homeschooling is sustainable without giving up certain other items we've made substantial progress on, particularly women's rights
04:13 <spidey__> ...
04:13 <spidey__> well not that it matters anyways
04:13 <spidey__> we'll be under chinese communism in 2 years minimal
04:13 <spidey__> because you know bush can't help but invade iran, or his minions
04:14 <Lucifer_arma> nah, we'll establish our own autocratic state :)
04:14 <Lucifer_arma> any country that invades us is going to lose in the end, we'll hold out
04:15 <Lucifer_arma> I'll even take to the hills and arm myself.  I don't care how horrible the US has been out in the rest of the world, I believe in self-determination :)
04:15 <Lucifer_arma> we need to fix our own problems.  So someone who comes here to try to fix them for us is going to be in for a guerrilla war the likes of which haven't existed in history yet
04:16 <spidey__> you know
04:16 <spidey__> if it does happen that way
04:16 <spidey__> eg; we invade iran, china moves on us, that would probably lead to ww3 o.O
04:19 <Lucifer_arma> yep
04:19 <Lucifer_arma> I don't think it'll happen that way, though
04:19 <Lucifer_arma> I think china and russia will meet us in Iran, and then we'll go in with NATO
04:19 <Lucifer_arma> the primary warfare will take place in eastern europe and asia
04:19 <Lucifer_arma> if it gets desperate enough, china will launch an offensive at our west coast
04:20 <Lucifer_arma> but France is currently positioning itself to push for an invasion of Iran
04:20 <Lucifer_arma> I think they withdrew from NATO, or they weren't part of NATO to begin with, though
04:30 <Vanhayes> if america brings us into ww3 id be pretty pissed
04:33 <Lucifer_arma> no, I'm on crack, France is still in NATO, they just temporarily withdrew from the military command structure
04:34 <Lucifer_arma> Vanhayes: I doubt we're going to Iran on our own
04:34 <Lucifer_arma> maybe you canadians should rethink your NATO membership before it's too late :)
04:35 <Vanhayes> bush should take his coalation to iran leave nato in afganistan
04:35 <Lucifer_arma> well, right now it's just France and the US talking about military action in Iran
04:35 <Lucifer_arma> thing is, it won't be UN-sanctioned, because Russia and China will veto any such resolution in the security council
04:36 <Lucifer_arma> but Iran is part of the Asian cooperation organization
04:36  * Lucifer_arma will dig up a link to that
04:38 <Lucifer_arma> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Cooperation_Organization
04:38 <Lucifer_arma> there it is
04:38 <Lucifer_arma> not quite a military alliance
04:39 <Lucifer_arma> but I think it would quickly position itself against NATO in the event of an invasion of Iran
04:39 <Lucifer_arma> hard to say though, since pakistan and india are both members, too
04:39 <Lucifer_arma> well, observer states, anyway
04:39 <Lucifer_arma> the core is Russia and China, and they've done cooperative military maneuvers together
04:40 <Lucifer_arma> some of the states Russia wants to take back that are former Soviet states are pushing to join NATO, and there's tension there
04:40 <Lucifer_arma> If we invade Iran, (I mean NATO, not the US) I think Russia will take the opportunity to retake some of it's former states
04:41 <Lucifer_arma> in fact, I think Russia's trying to set it all up :)
04:54 <Lucifer_arma> wow, that was a good workout tonight :)
05:42 -!- DrJoeTron [n=DrJoeTro@adsl-76-215-5-195.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #Armagetron
05:43 <DrJoeTron> hey, anyone wanna tell me why fullscreen no longer works?
05:43 <DrJoeTron> i'd love to get that back
05:51 <spidey__> DrJoeTron: they stopped supporting anything you like
05:51 <spidey__> didn't you see the post
05:51 <DrJoeTron> no :(
05:51 <spidey__> they said
05:51 <spidey__> "fuck drjoetron, we don't like him anymore, so we hereby discontinue anything he likes about tron"
05:51 <DrJoeTron> oh damn
05:52 <DrJoeTron> :( fuck
05:52 <DrJoeTron> fix plz
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> tell us how you broke it, and I'll tell you why it doesn't work
05:52 <spidey__> lol
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> we haven't released a new version, how could it suddenly break?
05:53 <spidey__> PROTEST WITH ME BROTHA'S
05:53 <spidey__> no more joe! no more joe! no more joe!
05:54 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma thats a good point
05:54 <DrJoeTron> it all of a sudden just kinda stopped working
05:54 <DrJoeTron> its that shallow
05:55 <DrJoeTron> i'd obviously give you more info
05:55 <DrJoeTron> but window mode works, but all i get is a black screen if i run full screen
05:56 <DrJoeTron> and when i manage to get fullscreen to work  it clips about an inch on the right side of the screen and an inch off of the bottom
05:56 <DrJoeTron> which is just more of a big window
05:56 <DrJoeTron> it did start doing this untill recently
05:56 <DrJoeTron> did not*
05:57 <DrJoeTron> should i just delete user.cfg again and see what happens
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> yes
05:57 <DrJoeTron> shit why didnt i even try that first
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> you mean you haven't already tried that?
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> you should know better :)
05:57 <DrJoeTron> haha really
05:58 <DrJoeTron> welp that did it
05:58 <Stewie-arma> lol
05:58 <Stewie-arma> dr learnt somting
05:58  * Stewie-arma cnt speeelee rite twoooodai!
05:58 <DrJoeTron> deleting user.cfg fixes 98% of armagetrons problems
05:59 <luke-jr> …
06:00 <DrJoeTron> once again luke-jr chimes in with valuable input! :D
06:01 <luke-jr> ☺
06:03 <Stewie-arma> DrJoeTron just be lucky he did talk about how religion could have solved your problem
06:03 <Stewie-arma> didn't**
06:03 <DrJoeTron> haha you act like i've never seen this channel before
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> heh
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> who are you, again?
06:06 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@2.234-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #armagetron
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> what's this?  The True Catholic Church doesn't change it's mind ever?
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> c. 1200 - Pope Innocent III wrote that when "quickening" occurred, abortion was homicide. Before that, abortion was considered a less serious sin.
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> 1588 - Pope Sixtus V aligned Church policy with St. Thomas Aquinas' belief that contraception and abortion were crimes against nature and sins against marriage.
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> # 1591 - Pope Gregory XIV decreed that prior to 116 days (~17 weeks), Church penalties would not be any stricter than local penalties, which varied from country to country.
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> 1869 - Pope Pius IX declared that abortion under any circumstance was gravely immoral (mortal sin), and, that anyone who participated in an abortion in any material way had by virtue of that act excommunicated themselves from the Church. In the same year, the Parliament of Canada unifies criminal law in all provinces, banning abortion.
06:10 <Vanhayes> luke-jr: doesnt think the pope is a true catholic
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> so it wasn't even until 1869 that the Catholic Church finally banned abortion in the current view
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> the current pope, he says, but this is history
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> the "quickening" they talk about is when the baby is big enough to move around and the mother can feel it
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> clearly the early catholic church was much more tolerant of abortion and contraceptives
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> interesting
06:12 <GodTodd> Vanhayes: no... luke-jr believes old popes were catholic but that the papacy "strayed" from the one true church
06:12 <GodTodd> i forget which pope it was exactly :)
06:12 <MrBougo> haha
06:12 <MrBougo> sorry but it's funny
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: right, which is why it's interesting that these old popes kept changing their views on abortion
06:13 <GodTodd> yep
06:13 <GodTodd> they've changed far more than that
06:13 <GodTodd> they used to believe in reincarnation as well
06:13 <MrBougo> i join in the morning and see Lucifer_arma and GodTodd argueing
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> ?  we're not arguing, we're agreeing :)
06:13 <MrBougo> aw
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> as usual, we're agreeing that luke-jr is an asshat
06:13 <MrBougo> hehe
06:13 <Vanhayes> everyone agrees on that
06:14 <GodTodd> which is the whole point of #luke-jrisanasshat
06:14 <MrBougo> even luke-jr
06:14 <GodTodd> :)
06:14 <Vanhayes> no luke-jr doesnt agree on anything, he likes to argue
06:14 <MrBougo> luke-jr, i'm your grandfather
06:14 <MrBougo> i'm pretty sure that im not the first one saying that
06:15 <GodTodd> trying to claim relation to him?
06:15 -!- MrBougo is now known as dark-jr
06:15 <GodTodd> i'm pretty sure you are :)
06:15 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: liar
06:15 <dark-jr> luke-jr, i'm your cousin
06:15 -!- dark-jr is now known as chewie
06:15 <luke-jr> GodTodd: wrong
06:15 <chewie> luke-jr, i'm your mother-in-law
06:15 -!- chewie is now known as MrBougo
06:16 <Lucifer_arma> when did the belgian become funny?
06:16 <MrBougo> did i become funny?
06:16 <GodTodd> shortly after the lobotomy
06:16 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, that was like the funniest star wars parody I've seen in awhile
06:16 <luke-jr> …
06:16 <MrBougo> i love your irony Lucifer_arma
06:16 <MrBougo> i've never seen any star wars episode, is it a shame?
06:17 <GodTodd> yes
06:17 <MrBougo> have i wasted my life so long?
06:17 <luke-jr> I'm not sure who's condition is sadder-- you guys or #jesus
06:17 <GodTodd> yes
06:17 <MrBougo> jesus has become a channel?
06:17 <spidey__> http://unrealircd.icedslash.com/Unreal3.2.7.tar.gz
06:17 <spidey__> er
06:17 <GodTodd> channeling what? bullshit? ;)
06:17 <MrBougo> amen spidey__
06:17 <spidey__> [23:18] [Notice] -ChanServ- [#jesus] Welcome! may the Lord bless you and your family abundantly!
06:17 <MrBougo> haha
06:18 <spidey__> i though ti got banned from all the religious channels...
06:18 <MrBougo> who set that topic?
06:18 <spidey__> o
06:18 <MrBougo> jesus himself?
06:18 <spidey__> that was on dalnet
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> oh, not here?
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> too bad, I was going to join it
06:18 <GodTodd> immaculet topic setting
06:18 <MrBougo> hehe
06:18 <GodTodd> er
06:18 <GodTodd> gud speeling
06:18  * Lucifer_arma periodically gets picked on in #qt over his name
06:18 <GodTodd> immaculate*
06:19 <MrBougo> i dont get it Lucifer_arma
06:19 <spidey__> luke-jr: why are they prayin gfor you?
06:19 <Lucifer_arma> there's no connection between #qt and jesus loving
06:19 <luke-jr> spidey__: because they're lost
06:19 <spidey__> wow
06:19 <luke-jr> spidey__: inform Lucifer_arma that #anime is FreeNode, since you confused him
06:19 <MrBougo> QT: QueerTelevision, an LGBT newsmagazine which aired on Canada's CityTV in the 1990s
06:19 <spidey__> luke's more extreme than a channel called #jesus, so they have to pray for him
06:19 <spidey__> that's awesome
06:20 <luke-jr> they're all heretics over there
06:20 <MrBougo> he has a channel too
06:20 <MrBougo> just like jesus
06:20 <MrBougo> Lord Asshat, we pray for you
06:20 <luke-jr> it would be funny if Lucifer_arma joined
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> #anime, hmph
06:20  * Lucifer_arma wouldn't go into anime if it was the last place for human communication
06:20 <MrBougo> haha
06:20 <MrBougo> "communication" heh
06:21 <GodTodd> anime and human? in the same sentence?
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> #quote get 21
06:21 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #21: "<Luke-Jr_work__> btw, pedophile is good" (added by spidey at 06:34 AM, September 09, 2006)
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> that's why he loves the japanese, dontcha know
06:21 <GodTodd> they can have him
06:21 <MrBougo> #happydesigner
06:21 <GodTodd> honestly :)
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> they don't want him, that's why he's here :(
06:22 <GodTodd> :(
06:22 <GodTodd> will they take money too?
06:22 <luke-jr> spidey__: inform Lucifer_arma that #anime is FreeNode, since you confused him
06:22 <GodTodd> we can scrape together donations
06:22 <Vanhayes> <luke-jr> spidey__: inform Lucifer_arma that #anime is FreeNode, since you confused him
06:23 <GodTodd> spidey confuses a lot of people
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> why spend a single cent getting rid of luke-jr when /ignore is free?
06:23 <GodTodd> :D
06:23 <spidey__> [23:18] [Notice] -ChanServ- [#jesus] Welcome! may the Lord bless you and your family abundantly!
06:23 <spidey__> ffs
06:23 <spidey__> my copy thingy don't work
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> spidey needs to relearn how to copy and paste (that's not a joke!)
06:24 <MrBougo> xD
06:24 <GodTodd> sad, actually
06:24 <GodTodd> ;)
06:24 <MrBougo> sometimes it doesnt work
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> no, it's different in Linux, when you're actually trying to use it intelligently
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> takes a few tries to get it right
06:25 <GodTodd> i don't have a problem...except when i graze my touchpad and get random pastes
06:25 <GodTodd> heh
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> haha
06:25 <MrBougo> happy 9th b-day google!
06:25 <GodTodd> woot! one year to global domination!
06:25 <luke-jr> ooh woot
06:25  * luke-jr checks
06:26 <luke-jr> Philips 23" Widescreen HD Ready LCD TV
06:26 <luke-jr> $299.99
06:26 <luke-jr> bah
06:26 <luke-jr> TV sucks
06:26 <MrBougo> http://kotaku.com/gaming/secrets/mario-galaxy-says-ur-mr-gay-301154.php
06:26 <MrBougo> haha
06:26 <GodTodd> you know....it takes a lot for someone to get me to use /ignore anywhere (and i've been in chatrooms for a *long* time) but luke-jr has managed it
06:27 <Vanhayes> i find it funny
06:28 <GodTodd> i find it by looking
06:28 <GodTodd> :)
06:28 <luke-jr> …
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> ignoring luke-jr is like getting rid of your tv
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> you still have other ways to get the information, so now you can select what's actually good and filter it out from all the crap
06:29 <GodTodd> heh
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> of course, I probably wouldn't mind if armabot wasn't here, just like I don't mind at all if I can't watch any tv shows
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> so once a month or so, I actually hear of something useful luke said and armabot is able to give it to me, he actually enriches my life
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> turned a negative into a positive
06:30 <GodTodd> haha
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> weeee
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> Uptime: 9 hours and 56 minutes
06:34 <MrBougo> indian guys made "pure white" DELs
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> upgraded my kernel earlier
06:35 <GodTodd> dels?
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> everybody's using hyperion?
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> oh, nvm
06:35 <MrBougo> oh nvm
06:35 <MrBougo> LED
06:35 <GodTodd> ah
06:35 <GodTodd> dyslexic leds
06:35 <GodTodd> :)
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06:35 <MrBougo> thought that you say DEL in english
06:36 <MrBougo> but its in french atually
06:36 <MrBougo> i alays use LED, so it confused me :p
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06:37 <Lucifer_arma> heh
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> [CTCP] Received CTCP-VERSION reply from Gursikh:  Powered by the hopes of 0.8.10 helpless people - running on Linux i686
06:37 <GodTodd> woot...that was fucked up
06:37 <GodTodd> heh
06:37 <MrBougo> wtf?
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> I like how mkzelda spams you when you ctcp-version him
06:37 <MrBougo> hehe
06:38 <MrBougo> heh, RONJA rocks
06:38 <MrBougo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RONJA
06:38 <MrBougo> thats awesome and useless
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> no custom version message for z-man-work?  :/
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> I can't believe that in this whole channel, there's only like 4-5 custom version messages
06:39 <MrBougo> :(
06:39 <MrBougo> i have a funny one though
06:39 <MrBougo> x-chat tells everybody that i'm using windows
06:39 <MrBougo> fuck
06:40 <MrBougo> i dont want people to know that
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> then fix it :)
06:40 <MrBougo> x-chat cant
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> get a better chat client then
06:40 <luke-jr> or stop using Windows
06:40 <MrBougo> luke-jr: do you REALLY need to get 3 replies?
06:40 <MrBougo> luke-jr: soon i'll be using linux
06:41 <MrBougo> yes... i know... illegal ubuntu or something
06:41 <MrBougo> i dont mind about
06:41 <MrBougo> oops* about that
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> lots of irssi
06:41 <MrBougo> yup
06:41 <MrBougo> i wanna use irssi too
06:42 <MrBougo> but the problem is that i need some good newb-to-pro docs
06:42 <MrBougo> just like VI
06:42 <MrBougo> you cant just use it as a beginner
06:42 <luke-jr> bs
06:43 <MrBougo> so Vanhayes and DrJoeTron are windowsians-xchatians
06:43 <MrBougo> like me
06:44 <MrBougo> but im the only one up to date
06:44 <Vanhayes> ?
06:44 <MrBougo> Vanhayes: you're using xchat right?
06:44 <MrBougo> and windows
06:44 <MrBougo> you're using the silverex one?
06:45 <Vanhayes> not sure, got it a while ago
06:46 <MrBougo> oh
06:46 <Vanhayes> this one is free, forget what it is
06:46 <Vanhayes> x-chat 2 maybe
06:46 <MrBougo> Help>About
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> I want to write my own irc client, I just haven't
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> can't see it being that hard, though
06:47 <MrBougo> why would you do that
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> hmm, I need to go to bed pretty soon
06:47 <MrBougo> you could modify the protocol code of irssi for example
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> MrBougo: because when you get right down to it, I don't like any of the irc clients I've used
06:47 <MrBougo> and make your own interface
06:47 <Vanhayes> its only what, 11 there Lucifer_arma ?
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> almost 12
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> but I have to be up early to watch my youngest
06:47 <MrBougo> almost 7 am here
06:48 <Vanhayes> eww
06:48 <MrBougo> :p
06:50 <MrBougo> thats the worst thing ever
06:50 <MrBougo> i'm searching w4r3z for an open source program
06:50 -!- Jovan [i=8a@gateway/tor/x-8f37109fd3f861a6] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
06:50 <MrBougo> how could these guys make a non-free windows build
06:51 <luke-jr> easil
06:51 <luke-jr> y
06:51 <luke-jr> because Windozelusers are too stupid to compile ☺
06:51 <luke-jr> and
06:51 <luke-jr> it's not non-free
06:51 <MrBougo> they said "it was really hard to do so we're closing the source for windows and putting a 30-day trial then you'll need to register"
06:51 <luke-jr> it's free
06:51 <luke-jr> you just need to pay for it
06:51 <MrBougo> bah
06:51 <MrBougo> thats violating the GNU licence
06:52 <luke-jr> nope
06:52 <luke-jr> the GNU license says you can charge whatever you want for a program
06:53 <Vanhayes> lets start a religous arguement again, this is getting stale
06:53 <MrBougo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-chat#Shareware_controversy
06:53 <MrBougo> Vanhayes: or a GPL argument
06:53 <MrBougo> just like the other day
06:54 <Vanhayes> I say religion is of no use to me, though I can see how it can benifit some people, if not taken to the extremes
06:56 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: yeah, truth is useless
06:56 <Vanhayes> what truth is that?
06:56 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: I'm sure you'll be thinking otherwise when you realize you'll be standing in fire for eternity
06:56 <Vanhayes> and remember alot of people need proof to believe something is true
06:57 <Vanhayes> i dont like the cold, i get enough of it up here
06:57 <luke-jr> plenty of proof
06:57 <luke-jr> if you ignore it, that's your problem
06:58 <Vanhayes> again, what proof?
06:58 <luke-jr> [23:58:27] <luke-jr> plenty of proof
06:58 <luke-jr> [23:58:44] <luke-jr> if you ignore it, that's your problem
06:58 <Vanhayes> that doesnt look like proof, that looks like you saying there is alot of proof
07:00 <Vanhayes> ...
07:00 <luke-jr> http://www.newadvent.org/summa/
07:02  * GodTodd reminds Vanhayes that the only other ones likely to add intelligence to that kind of argument are ignoring luke-jr ;)
07:02 <spidey__> luke-jr: god knows what tomorrow will bring, right?
07:02 <Vanhayes> i can write stories too, where are the witnesses to the events in the stories?
07:03 <Vanhayes> brb, need a PT
07:03 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: plenty of witnesses to Christ's miracles
07:03 <spidey__> if 'god' is the all knowing, and he created everything, including the future...why bother?
07:03 <spidey__> that's not even free will
07:04 -!- spidey__ is now known as spidey
07:04 <GodTodd> Sedevacantism (/sedəvə'kæntizm/) is a theological position embraced by a tiny minority of Traditionalist Catholics which holds that the Papal See has been vacant since the death of Pope Pius XII in 1958 (or, in some cases, the death of Pope John XXIII in 1963). Sedevacantists believe that the subsequent successors (or, in their view, claimants) to the papal office — Paul VI (1963–1978), John Paul I (1978), John
07:04 <GodTodd> Paul II (1978–2005) and Benedict XVI (2005-) — have been neither true Catholics nor true popes, but rather notorious heretics.
07:05 <luke-jr> the Fatima miracle in 1917 was witnessed by thousands, including non-believers, scoffers, and Freemasons
07:05 <spidey> don't call me fat
07:05 <luke-jr> anyhow, good night
07:05 <luke-jr> spidey: fatty pothead
07:05  * Stewie-arma laughs at all this shi-
07:05 <GodTodd> spidey: you're fat :D
07:06 <Stewie-arma> GodTodd: and you aren't?
07:09 <GodTodd> Stewie-arma: if you can't recognize ribbing then please kindly stay out of it :)
07:10 <Stewie-arma> GodTodd: WTF IS RIBBING!?!?!?!
07:11 <Vanhayes> razzing
07:11 <Stewie-arma> lol
07:11  * Stewie-arma isn't up to date with all this hip lingo
07:12 <Vanhayes> well ribbing is from the 50's i think, back when GodTodd was a kid, razzing is newer i think
07:12 <GodTodd> ribbing is a term that's been around for decades...presumably from the physical act of nudging someone in the ribs to assure them you mean no ill will and are just being funny
07:13  * GodTodd was *not* a kid in the 50s :P
07:15 <Vanhayes> used that as an example
07:16 <GodTodd> still...:P
07:17 <spidey> you're that fucking old?
07:17 <spidey> jesus
07:17  * Lucifer_arma ribs spidey
07:18  * spidey stabs Lucifer_arma in the eye
07:18 <GodTodd> no...i'm not as old as jesus
07:19 <GodTodd> some days it feels like it
07:19  * Lucifer_arma pokes spidey with a foil
07:19 <GodTodd> but i'm not :)
07:19 <MrBougo> oh my GOD, this is slow!
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> man, I'm getting younger every day
07:19 <MrBougo> i hate zonealarm
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> really
07:19 <MrBougo> i hate my sister who doesnt want me to change the firewall
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> this martial arts class rocks
07:20 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: i get the same effect drinking the blood of catholic babies
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: I believe it
07:20 <MrBougo> can you believe this
07:20 <GodTodd> tasty too :)
07:20 <MrBougo> a firewall taking 75% of the resources
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> I *was* craving something with a lot of protein earlier
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> MrBougo: on Windows, I can believe anything's a resource hog
07:21 <GodTodd> cuz you haven't given me my blowjob today
07:21 <MrBougo> :(
07:21 <GodTodd> :P
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> windows programmers don't want to just give you a useful program, they also want to pwn your resources
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> see, consider this
07:21 <MrBougo> bah
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> the same 99% of the people in the world that pollute the environment and don't give a shit about spilling their oil all over the place use Windows
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> coincidence?
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> studies have shown that most of the people who disagree with the Kyoto protocol run Windows
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> coincidence, or conspiracy?
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> YOU DECIDE
07:22 <GodTodd> YOU DEICIDE
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07:23 <Lucifer_arma> another irssi kid
07:23 <GodTodd> wow...i need eyewash
07:23 <Lucifer_arma> or sleep :)
07:23  * GodTodd has been reading on luke-jr's cult
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> got a link?
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> not sure if I want to waste my time on it, though
07:24 <Vanhayes> that sun thing or the first link?
07:24 <GodTodd> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedevacantism
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07:27 <MrBougo> oho
07:27 <MrBougo> i think i found it
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07:30 <MrBougo> awesome
07:32 <MrBougo> bah
07:32 <MrBougo> self-w4r3z-searching doesnt work pretty well
07:32 <MrBougo> anyway i dont need that
07:33 <MrBougo> ima be ubuntuish in 2 weeks
07:33 <Lucifer_arma> this is comical
07:33 <MrBougo> ?
07:33 <Lucifer_arma> these sedevacantists are like a total parody of catholicism
07:33 <Lucifer_arma> MAD TV couldn't have done any better
07:38 <deja_vu> hehe
07:38 <GodTodd> truly
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> anybody get flashbacks of Waiting for Godot while reading about the sedevacantists?
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> ah hell, I'm going to bed
07:39  * Lucifer_arma is sleepy
07:40  * GodTodd is too
07:40 <GodTodd> :/
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07:41 <MrBougo> do i need an antivir or a firewall with linux
07:41 <MrBougo> seriously
07:43 <Stewie-arma> #armaservers
07:43 <armabot> Stewie-arma: This data is 57 seconds old; Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (8/10), Nexus9 (NO RUBBER!) (4/16), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (3/10), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (3/12), >3D> Eternal Destiny Clan Server ~{DF}~ (2/16), ~"XzL.Clan The Server (1/12)
07:54 <DrJoeTron> #serverinfo shrunk
07:54 <armabot> DrJoeTron: Shrunkland in 2.8.2: No online players.
07:55 <DrJoeTron> MrBougo yeah im on an old version of xchat and windows
07:59 <MrBougo> #ping
07:59 <armabot> pong
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08:59 <MrBougo> oops, i suck
08:59 <MrBougo> i wanted to wget a file
08:59 <MrBougo> and i use grep instead
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10:04  * Stewie-arma needs a more silent computer
10:04 <Stewie-arma> and by computer I mean printer
10:04 <Stewie-arma> lol
10:05 <Stewie-arma> luckily my printer is fast
10:07 <MrBougo> your computer is fast Stewie-arma ?
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11:55 <MrBougo> clear
11:55 <MrBougo> /clear
11:56 <MrBougo> oh shoot, sorry
11:57 <MrBougo> aah, finally got the official release of xchat
11:57 <MrBougo> it feels cleaner
11:57 <MrBougo> can someone send me a file through dcc?
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13:31 <akira_> greetings Bougo!
13:31 <akira_> Mr*
13:40 <MrBougo> hiho akira_
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15:49 <MrBougo> what audio player do the linuxians here use?
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15:56 <Gursikh> gxine/totem/vlc/mplayer
15:56 <Gursikh> and amarok
15:56 <Gursikh> >_>
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20:17 <Bougo> bye
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21:03 <Lucifer_arma> Do not, and I mean DO NOT, go after your best friends sister, unless you really like her.
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21:34 <Vanhayes> #tea
21:34 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: No online players.
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22:56 <epsy> #lastseen ixel
22:57 <armabot> epsy: timed out
22:57 <epsy> mhmhmmh
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23:02 <G5_Ger> #tea
23:02 <armabot> G5_Ger: Fortress Café: Players (7/32): .:] Goody, Shinobi, ~|DS|~|dvDosc|, ~|DS|~|GonZ|~, ¦Ö¦FoFo, ¦Ö¦Qico, ¦×¥Flex
23:25 <akira_> #tea
23:25 <armabot> akira_: Fortress Café: Players (10/32): G5, Gutsy Gibbon, jakjak, Jobee, Kamakazi, Lackadaisical, Shinobi, ~|DS|~|GonZ|~, ¦Ð´kê¦	cos, ¦×¥ FoFo
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23:33 <Vanhayes> #tea
23:34 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (10/32): cos, G5, Gutsy Gibbon, Kamakazi, Lackadaisical, MaZuffeR, Shinobi, ~|DS|~|GonZ|~, ¦×¥ FoFo, ¦×¥.chevron
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01:27 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
01:27 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 63°F / 17°C | Humidity: 88% | Pressure: 30.00in / 1016hPa | Conditions: Light Rain Showers | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h | Updated: 8:00 PM ADT; Tonight - Cloudy. A few showers or thundershowers beginning early this evening and ending late this evening then 60 percent chance of showers overnight. Local amount 5 to 10 mm(0.2 to 0.4 in). Low 15C(59F).; Friday (1 more message)
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02:30 <noob7> #weather oktoberfest
02:30 <armabot> noob7: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
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04:30 <Vanhayes> #tea
04:30 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: No online players.
04:30 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
04:30 <armabot> Vanhayes: This data is 37 seconds old; ~"XzL.Clan The Server (9/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (9/10), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (9/12), Nexus9 (NO RUBBER!) (8/16), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (8/14), Norm's Place (7/12), >3D> Eternal Destiny Clan Server ~{DF}~ (6/16), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (5/10), "USA CLAN" CAPTURE THE FLAG practice server (5/12), ¬| D u r k a  D u r k a (1 more message)
04:30 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
04:30 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 63°F / 17°C | Humidity: 88% | Pressure: 30.00in / 1016hPa | Conditions: Mist | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 13mph / 20km/h | Updated: 11:00 PM ADT; Tonight - Cloudy. A few showers or thundershowers beginning early this evening and ending late this evening then 60 percent chance of showers overnight. Local amount 5 to 10 mm(0.2 to 0.4 in). Low 15C(59F).; Friday - Cloudy. (1 more message)
04:30 <Vanhayes> #weather red deer
04:30 <armabot> Vanhayes: The current temperature in Red Deer, Alberta is 53.6°F (8:00 PM MDT on September 27, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 41.0°F. Pressure: 29.60 in 1002 hPa (Falling).
04:55 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
04:55 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 80.4°F (9:51 PM CDT on September 27, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 62.6°F. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Rising).
04:56 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.weather.com/newscenter/tropical/?from=wxcenter_news
04:58 <Stewie-arma> #weather 92037
04:58 <armabot> Stewie-arma: The current temperature in La Jolla Shores, La Jolla, California is 72.1°F (7:54 PM PDT on September 27, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 60.8°F. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011.1 hPa (Steady).
05:01 <Stewie-arma> #armaservers
05:01 <armabot> Stewie-arma: This data is 44 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (10/14), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (10/12), ~"XzL.Clan The Server (8/12), Nexus9 (NO RUBBER!) (7/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (7/10), Norm's Place (7/12), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (6/10), >3D> Eternal Destiny Clan Server ~{DF}~ (5/16), "USA CLAN" CAPTURE THE FLAG practice server (1/12), -= S t a t ' s  D u (1 more message)
05:01 <Stewie-arma> #more
05:01 <armabot> Stewie-arma: r k a D u r k a L a n d =- (1/12), ¬| D u r k a  D u r k a  L an d | ¬ (1/16)
05:38 <Stewie-arma> alright
06:10 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
06:10 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 63°F / 17°C | Humidity: 88% | Pressure: 29.98in / 1015hPa | Conditions: Light Drizzle | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h | Updated: 1:00 AM ADT; Tonight - Cloudy. A few showers or thundershowers beginning early this evening and ending late this evening then 60 percent chance of showers overnight. Local amount 5 to 10 mm(0.2 to 0.4 in). Low 15C(59F).; Friday - (1 more message)
06:43 <Vanhayes> #night
06:43 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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10:18 <spidey> freeze
10:18 <spidey> you're all under arrest
10:18 <spidey> and we're throwing luke-jr in iraq with a american army uniform, just cause we can!
10:20 <luke-jr> die
10:43 <spidey> :D
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14:45 <armabot> armagetronad: lackadaisical * r7347 /www/mainsite/screenshots/ (16 files): screenshots. can i do this? lack
14:49 <armabot> armagetronad: lackadaisical * r7348 /www/mainsite/screenshots/thumbnails/ (16 files): thumbs.
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16:25 <Sticky_> !roulette
16:25 <Sticky_> #roulette
16:25 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
16:25  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
16:25 <Sticky_> #roulette
16:25 <armabot> Sticky_: *click*
16:25 <Sticky_> #roulette
16:25 <armabot> Sticky_: *click*
16:25 <Sticky_> #roulette
16:25 <armabot> Sticky_: *click*
16:25 <Sticky_> #roulette
16:25 <armabot> Sticky_: *click*
16:25 <Sticky_> #roulette
16:25 <armabot> Sticky_: *click*
16:25 <Sticky_> WHAT
16:25 <Sticky_> WHAT
16:25 <Sticky_> #roulette
16:25 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
16:25  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
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16:51 <spidey> lolhax
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18:03 <akira___> ciao
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18:05  * epsy quotes some code
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18:43 <tramshed> hmm
18:43 <tramshed> gentoo seems to not be seeing my armagetronad overlay now
18:45 <epsy> layman -a armagetronad ?
18:45 <tramshed> aye, done that
18:45 <tramshed> although its just armagetron, not armagetronad
18:45 <tramshed> layman gets it fine
18:45 <tramshed> it just wont emerge
18:45 <tramshed> acts like its not even there
18:45 <tramshed> my source line for layman is in make.conf and correct as well
18:54 <epsy> well
18:54 <epsy> paste it on a pastebin
18:59 <tramshed> oh its simple enough
18:59 <tramshed> it just says that its masked
19:00 <tramshed> and when I unmask it it tries to install the gentoo ebuild
19:00 <tramshed> and acts like the layman ones arent there
19:03 <epsy> well
19:04 <epsy> the overlay doesn't has any armagetronad ebuild does it ?
19:04 <epsy> armagetronad-experimental and armagetronad-experimental-live
19:08 <tramshed> it does have armagetron ebuilds
19:09 <tramshed> they just seem to be getting ignored
19:09 <tramshed> I installed it once, and now cant remember how I did it, heh
19:11 <tramshed> oh, odd
19:12 <tramshed> I have to add the dir specifically as an overlay now
19:12 <tramshed> must of been the new portage that did it
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21:06 <Blind> Hi all
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21:06 <epsy> hi Blind
21:07 <Blind> Can someone help me with unicode characters in player names ingame please
21:07 <epsy> well, what's your problem ?
21:07 <Blind> For some reason once ingame i get a wierd error when changing the config
21:08 <Blind> PLAYER_1 Cðð£Náme
21:08 <Blind> for example
21:08 <Blind> it doesnt work when i include the name.cfg
21:08 <Blind> its in the same folder as the user.cfg im not sure what is wrong
21:08 <epsy> arma reads config files latin-9
21:09 <Blind> so how do i use latin-9 code?
21:09 <Blind> with charmap?
21:09 <epsy> yes
21:09 <epsy> and i don't think arma handles unicode at all
21:10 <Blind> how do i change its encoding/
21:10 <Blind> or use latin-9 characters
21:10 <epsy> what's your text editor ?
21:10 <Blind> notepad and wordpad
21:10 <epsy> err
21:11 <epsy> i never used these editors
21:11 <epsy> maybe some windows user could help you
21:11 <Blind> oh
21:11 <epsy> noob7, boo
21:12 <Blind> ?
21:12 <epsy> i think he is a windows user who could help you :p
21:12 <Blind> ok
21:13 <epsy> mh
21:13 <Blind> mh?
21:14 <epsy> mmmhhhhhhh
21:14 <Blind> lol
21:14 <epsy> :p
21:15 <epsy> well, maybe if you use the « save as » thingy
21:15 <Gursikh> :wq
21:15 <epsy> Gursikh, haha that's not on windows
21:15 <epsy> :)
21:15 <Blind> ANSI
21:16 <Blind> UNICODE
21:16 <Blind> UNICODE ENDIAN
21:16 <Blind> and
21:16 <Blind> UTF-8
21:16 <Blind> there only ones on notepad
21:16 <Gursikh> vim for windows: http://www.vim.org/download.php#pc
21:17 <epsy> rofl
21:17 <Blind> thanks
21:18 <Blind> does that work with latin9?
21:18 <epsy> it works with mostly everything
21:18 <Blind> ok
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21:21 <madmax> hi
21:23 <Blind> hi
21:23 <epsy> hay max
21:23 <Blind> how do i set it to latin-9?
21:34 <Blind> nvm
21:34 <Blind> thanks bye
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22:02 <Vanhayes> #weather red deer
22:02 <armabot> Vanhayes: The current temperature in Red Deer, Alberta is 46.4°F (1:00 PM MDT on September 28, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 39.2°F. Windchill: 42.8°F. Pressure: 29.57 in 1001 hPa (Falling).
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22:53 <epsy> can anyone suggest me a decent multi-protocol IM client ?
22:54 <wrtlprnft> kopete ftw :)
22:54 <epsy> i like kopete
22:54 <epsy> but i can't get it to connect correctly
22:55 <epsy> ooh
22:55 <epsy> it works
22:59 <epsy> :D
22:59 <epsy> greate
22:59  * epsy can wipe out pidgin
23:10 <spidey> i say we start a patition to send luke-jr to war!
23:12 <epsy> patition ?
23:13 <epsy> :p
23:13 <wrtlprnft> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=192029#192029
23:13  * wrtlprnft loves blatant lies
23:15 <epsy> i trought 2 seconds you were starting a ...
23:15 <epsy> Wrtlprnft, do you like caps ?
23:16 <wrtlprnft> ?
23:16 <epsy> « illiterate post? no. i got banned for saying ass , or penis, w/e , which u were origanlly allowed to say. »
23:16 <epsy> wrtlprnft, « Epsy: That' »
23:16 <epsy> ;p
23:16 <epsy> i love how he says that
23:16 <epsy> « originally »
23:16 <spidey> banned for saying ass?
23:16 <spidey> nubish admins i say
23:17 <epsy> i presume he was saying it all the time
23:17 <wrtlprnft> me, too
23:17 <epsy> woulda have been boring
23:18 <spidey> so?
23:18 <spidey> ass,ass,ass,ass,ass
23:18 <spidey> there's a ignore option for a reason.
23:19  * epsy core dumped spidey for 2 points
23:19 <wrtlprnft> sorry, i don't want to bother ignoring such idiots
23:19 <epsy> /you got respawned by wrtlprnft
23:19 <wrtlprnft> i'm happy if the admin takes care of them
23:19  * epsy core dumped spidey for 2 points
23:19 <epsy> ass
23:19 <epsy> /you got respawned by wrtlprnft
23:19  * epsy core dumped spidey for 2 points
23:19 <epsy> ass
23:19 <epsy> /you got respawned by wrtlprnft
23:19  * epsy core dumped spidey for 2 points
23:19 <epsy> ass
23:19 <epsy> see ?
23:20 <spidey> [16:21] [Ignore] Added epsy!* to your ignore list.
23:20 <spidey> yes, i see
23:20 <epsy> haha
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23:23 <epsy> hay G5_Ger
23:24 <G5_Ger> Hi
23:24 <G5_Ger> #tea
23:24 <armabot> G5_Ger: Fortress Café: Players (7/32): .:] SageLord, Lackadaisical, SP.Unknown, ~*SP*~Daywalker, ~*SP*~Foper~, ~|DS|~ mescalin, ¦Ö¦Foper
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23:30 <epsy> wrtlprnft, is there a way to pass arguments to aliases ?
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23:52 <epsy> wrtlprnft, %s :p
23:56 <GodTodd> epsy: depends...is it third and short or third and long? :)
23:57 <epsy> err what are you talking about ? :p

Log from 2007-09-29:
--- Day changed Sat Sep 29 2007
00:00 <GodTodd> sorry...american footbball joke :)
00:00 <GodTodd> football*
00:01 <epsy> meh
00:01 <epsy> lol
00:02 <GodTodd> (had to do with the passing arguments thing) :P
00:03 <epsy> k cu
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00:28 <noob13> #later tell epsy no problem.
00:28 <armabot> noob13: The operation succeeded.
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01:09  * Lucifer_arma whacks GodTodd
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01:09 <Lucifer_arma> how twisted do you have to be to turn a football joke into a programming joke?
01:09 <Lucifer_arma> ack!
01:09 <Lucifer_arma> you just burned out part of my brain with that!
01:09 <Lucifer_arma> I feel dumb and smart at the same time!
01:10 <Lucifer_arma> ohhhhhhhhhh the paaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
01:14  * GodTodd likes the whack. ;)
01:29 <Lucifer_arma> I'm going to put this incident into my journal for Chapter 3 in speech :)
01:29 <Lucifer_arma> might as well try to get *something* positive out of it
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02:21  * GodTodd made a Chapter 3 journal? woot, i'm famous! :)
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06:20 <Lucifer_arma> #dict boundary
06:20 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: devils, moby-thes, gcide, wn, bouvier, and gaz-county responded: devils: BOUNDARY, n. In political geography, an imaginary line between two nations, separating the imaginary rights of one from the imaginary rights of the other; wn: boundary n 1: the line or plane indicating the limit or extent of something [syn: {bound}, {bounds}] 2: a line determining the limits of an (18 more messages)
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> #more
06:20 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: area [syn: {edge}, {bound}] 3: the greatest possible degree of something; "what he did was beyond the bounds of acceptable behavior"; "to the limit of his ability" [syn: {limit}, {bounds}]; gaz-county: Boundary -- U.S. County in Idaho Population (2000): 9871 Housing Units (2000): 4095 Land area (2000): 1268.806171 sq. miles (3286.192758 sq. km) Water area (2000): 9.401069 sq. miles (17 more messages)
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> #more
06:21 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: (24.348657 sq. km) Total area (2000): 1278.207240 sq. miles (3310.541415 sq. km) Located within: Idaho (ID), FIPS 16 Location: 48.758435 N, 116.373036 W Headwords: Boundary Boundary, ID Boundary County Boundary County, ID; gcide: Boundary \Bound"a*ry\, n.; pl. {Boundaries} [From {Bound} a limit; cf. LL. bonnarium piece of land with fixed limits.] That which indicates or fixes a limit (16 more messages)
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> #more
06:21 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: or extent, or marks a bound, as of a territory; a bounding or separating line; a real or imaginary limit. [1913 Webster] But still his native country lies Beyond the boundaries of the skies. --N. Cotton. [1913 Webster] That bright and tranquil stream, the boundary of Louth and Meath. --Macaulay. [1913 Webster] Sensation and reflection are the boundaries of our thoughts. --Locke. [1913 (15 more messages)
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> why is it that every other word I lookup immediately goes into synonyms, but when I want a synonym, I have to keep paging?
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> #more
06:21 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Webster] Syn: Limit; bound; border; term; termination; barrier; verge; confines; precinct. Usage: {Bound}, {Boundary}. Boundary, in its original and strictest sense, is a visible object or mark indicating a limit. Bound is the limit itself. But in ordinary usage the two words are made interchangeable. [1913 Webster]; moby-thes: 171 Moby Thesaurus words for "boundary": Thule, Ultima (14 more messages)
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> #more
06:21 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Thule, ankle, articulation, balustrade, barrier, bisector, bitter end, border line, bordering, borderline, borders, bottom dollar, bound, boundary condition, boundary line, bounding, bounds, bourn, break boundary, breakoff point, butt, butt end, caesura, caudal, ceiling, cervix, circumscription, clinch, closure, coastal, colon, comma, compass, conclusive, confine, confinement, confines, (13 more messages)
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> #more
06:21 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: connecting link, connecting rod, connection, continence, coupling, cutoff, cutoff point, deadline, definitive, delimitation, determinant, determinative, determining, diameter, discipline, divider, division line, dovetail, elbow, embrace, end, endmost, equator, eventual, extreme, extremity, fag end, farthest, farthest bound, fence, final, finish, floor, fringing, frontier, frontiers, (12 more messages)
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> #more
06:22 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: gliding joint, halfway mark, hedge, high-water mark, hinge, hinged joint, hip, interface, join, joining, joint, jumping-off place, juncture, knee, knuckle, last, limbic, limen, liminal, limit, limitation, limiting, limiting factor, limits, line, line of demarcation, link, littoral, low-water mark, lower limit, march, marginal, mark, mete, miter, moderation, mortise, neck, nib, partition, (11 more messages)
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> #more
06:22 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: pause, perimeter, period, pivot, pivot joint, point, polar, pole, precincts, prescription, proscription, purlieus, qualification, rabbet, rail, railing, restrain, restriction, rimming, scarf, seam, semicolon, shoulder, skirting, start, starting line, starting point, stitch, stone wall, stop, stub, stump, suture, symphysis, tag, tag end, tail, tail end, target date, term, terminal, (10 more messages)
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> #more
06:22 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: terminal date, terminating, terminative, terminus, threshold, tie rod, time allotment, tip, toggle, toggle joint, ultimate, union, upper limit, wall, weld, wrist; bouvier: BOUNDARY, estates. By this term is understood in general, every separation, natural or artificial, which marks the confines or line of division of two contiguous estates. 3 Toull. n. 171. 2. Boundary also signifies (9 more messages)
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: pin
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> g
07:12 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: pon
07:12 <GodTodd> g
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: did you get a chance to edit that stor
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> y?
08:02 <GodTodd> not yet unfortunately...i don't want to be distracted when i do it and i've had (and have) a bunch of nonsense homework hit all at once :/
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> heh, me too
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> so I haven't even managed to go over it myself again
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> or write another one
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> hey, I'm abandoning my book, because I read another book that pretty much told the same story I was going to tell :/
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> now I'm tainted, and not interested in the story anymore :(
08:04 <GodTodd> physics test tomorrow, 2 java labs due monday, humanities game shit due tuesday and government paper due wed. :/
08:04 <GodTodd> eh, it happens
08:04 <GodTodd> :)
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> haha
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> I've got a paper for tomorrow I'm working on, that journal entry for sunday, statics test monday, yadayada
08:05 <GodTodd> this semester seems like homework central for some reason
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> I already did the other assignment that's due sunday, though :)
08:06 <Lucifer_arma> well, not trying to distract you, just wanted to see if you'd had a chance and we missed each other or something
08:06 <GodTodd> my physics test is over everything from SI units to the laws and poperties of force
08:06 <Lucifer_arma> kinematics?
08:06 <GodTodd> not distracted...just trying to prioritize :)
08:06 <GodTodd> yep
08:06 <GodTodd> F=ma, friction...all that
08:06 <Lucifer_arma> SI units are easy.  :)  there's meters, seconds, and grams, and a bunch of prefixes
08:07 <Lucifer_arma> everything else is derived from those :)
08:07 <GodTodd> nope
08:07 <GodTodd> m, s, *kg*
08:07 <GodTodd> :P
08:07 <Lucifer_arma> kilo-gram :)
08:07 <GodTodd> kg is considered the base unit tho
08:07 <Lucifer_arma> true, but I find it easier to use the unprefixed unit as the base
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> conceptually, to keep track of the units, I mean
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> a gram isn't terribly useful unless you're snorting coke
08:08 <GodTodd> as do i...but i got burned on a chem test question with that so now it's burned into my brain
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> heh
08:08 <GodTodd> snorting, yes...selling, it's still kg :)
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08:08 <Lucifer_arma> well, you look at some of the derived units.  N = kg*m/s^2, and you remember to say kg when you need to
08:08 <GodTodd> or...at least for distrobution ;)
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> I honestly don't know enough about cocaine to say how it's sold
08:09 <GodTodd> i just know how it's busted
08:09 <GodTodd> :)
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> I only know that a quarter ounce of pot is considered 11 grams in Austin, and 8 grams in New Mexico
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> must be the elevation
08:09 <GodTodd> they talk about all the kilos the dudes had
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> ah, that's because they don't bother reporting the small time dealers :)
08:09 <GodTodd> yep
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> I think an 8 ball is 8 grams
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> could be wrong, though
08:10 <GodTodd> it's 8 something
08:10 <GodTodd> logically :)
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> it's supposed to be "enough for an evening"
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> heh
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> so, my physics teacher last semester is all SI units
08:10 <GodTodd> we got to shoot hard plastic balls around the physics lab on thurs :)
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> he says imperial units are useless and doesn't even teach them
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> heh, we use little steel balls :)
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> so, I'm working with that physics teacher this semester
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> so I told him that a signifcant part of the first day of my statics class was dedicated to explaining the difference between pounds-mass and pounds-force
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> he said it was a useless lecture, and they should cancel the class
08:12 <GodTodd> he said the steel balls would break the launcher mechanism...or maybe it was the touch pad he was worried about...
08:12 <GodTodd> hahaha
08:12 <Lucifer_arma> we do the projectile lab with a piece of carbon paper for the ball to land on, and the launcher came with the steel balls
08:13 <GodTodd> we put the carbon paper on top of the electronic pad that measures time of flight
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> fancy stuff.  We measure teh distance and compute the time of flight from it :)
08:13 <GodTodd> that's cuz austin is backwoods ;)
08:13 <GodTodd> heh
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> we do have coming (it's standard equipment we don't have) a freefall machine that'll measure time of flight
08:14 <GodTodd> photogate system?
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> well, maybe our instructors realize the limitation that people suffer from when they only know projectile formulas with t terms :)
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> no, it's not photogates
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> the problem with using photogates is that you have to drop the ball perfectly for the two photogates to pick it up
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> the system we're getting has a bracket that holds the ball, and since the ball conducts electricity, it's a closed circuit
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> timer starts when the circuit opens, because the ball is falling
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> it hits a touch pad
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> if I were to worry through the wiring, I could probably make a sensor for the projectile launchers
08:16 <GodTodd> probably
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> but why bother?  it's liberating to be able to do projectile motion without depending on a t term :)
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> well, I think I just need to interlace my paper with quotes from the story, and then edit for flow and I'm done
08:18 <GodTodd> cool :)
08:46 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7349 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/ (4 files in 2 dirs): live.eclass -- please test
08:47 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7350 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/armagetronad-live/ (3 files in 2 dirs): digests for changes
08:51 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7351 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/eclass/live.eclass: s/true/false ... if no existing install
08:53 <luke-jr> mkzelda: etc ping :p
09:26 <Lucifer_arma> heh, the Z-man effect
09:28 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: ?
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09:50 <Lucifer_arma> heh, the Z-man effect
09:50 <z-man> which effect?
09:51 <Lucifer_arma> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeeman_Effect
09:51 <Lucifer_arma> stumbled across that and wondered if it's where you got your name
09:52 <z-man> heh, no, not actually, but I like that version better :)
09:53 <luke-jr> z-man: gentoo?
09:54 <z-man> I still use it and still hate it, why?
09:54 <luke-jr> z-man: test out the new overlay ebuilds?
09:54 <luke-jr> they should update when and only when there is a change in the actual svn code
09:55 <z-man> New instructions?
09:56 <luke-jr> ?
09:57 <z-man> Are there new instructions for them, or can I dig out the old ones and use them>
09:57 <z-man> ?
09:57 <luke-jr> same stuff
09:58 <luke-jr> the instruction changes are post-install and in the messages
10:09 <luke-jr> z-man: …
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10:21 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7352 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/eclass/live.eclass: userpriv breaks the cache disabling stuff
10:25 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7353 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/eclass/live.eclass: actually, that didnt help :/
10:38 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7354 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/eclass/live.eclass: looks like all we can do is accept userpriv as a feature breaker
10:44 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7355 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/eclass/live.eclass: quieter userpriv handling, and notice on its restriction
10:58 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7356 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/eclass/live.eclass: a bit more just to get some updating
11:06 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7357 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/armagetronad-live/ (2 files): rename .desktop and .png links to avoid collisions between different slots
11:18 <MrBougo> luke-jr is having fun
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12:51 <z-man> luke-jr: yes, yes, it takes a while to compile on this box, and I had just woken up. Installation seems to have worked, and the postinstall message said something about LIVE_UPDATES. I set mine to "revision".
12:51 <z-man> Which of course means that there are no updates currently to be installed, and nothing to test further right now.
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13:02 <bebers> http://tubeimage.com/viewer.php?file=x7o3ydsiwmvc6pnvqyd3.jpg
13:03 <epsy> that's...nothing funny
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13:03 <epsy> i can't even figure out what's intended to be funny
13:03 <MrBougo> ME!
13:04 <MrBougo> hello
13:05 <epsy> YOU .... YOU ... YOU HELLO
13:15 <MaZuffeR> #tea
13:15 <armabot> MaZuffeR: Fortress Café: Players (1/32): ¼´¾¶Hun
13:16 <eddiefantastic> #coffee
13:22 <luke-jr> z-man: now we just need someone to commit a revision? :p
13:44 <noob7> can someone explain to me what "cycle_turn_memory" does?
13:45 <noob7> when I search wiki I get this page: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Console_Commands - but nothing there about it?
13:46 <noob7> besides "number of turns a cycle will memorize"
13:46 <noob7> cwhat would changing the default (3) to 6 have of an impact?
13:48 <deja_vu> hm
13:49 <deja_vu> i guess it's the number of turns that the cycle can remember for you so they are done after the delay between turns is expired
13:49 <noob7> someone tried to explain to me that most of the instas and some of the lag issues on "WildCat" are due to the many keypresses, and that changing that might reduce some of the issues
13:50 <noob7> ok so if you do turns faster than the turn delay, the cycle will remember and do 6 of those, right?
13:51 <noob7> this actually might help, even tho the delay is close to nill ...
13:51 <deja_vu> can't think of anything else that would make sense right now :)
13:51 <epsy> noob7, jabber
13:51 <noob7> ok thanks for that deja_vu
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13:51 <luke-jr> epsy: jabber
13:51 <noob7> yeah just noticed epsy, ty
13:52 <luke-jr> noob7: jabber
13:52 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: jabber
13:52  * epsy slaps luke-jr 
13:52 <luke-jr> wb btw
13:52  * luke-jr ponders an appropriate torture for epsy
13:52  * luke-jr solders epsy's mouth shut
13:53 <luke-jr> #last anjori
13:53 <armabot> luke-jr: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; (1 more message)
13:54 <luke-jr> #last --from anjori
13:54 <armabot> luke-jr: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 30879 messages.
13:54 <noob7> epsy: done, will need a restart
13:54 <epsy> k
13:55 <noob7> epsy, you wanted to explain to me how to send commands to the servers console even when not being there
13:55 <luke-jr> whatever happened to anjori?
13:55 <epsy> ah
13:55 <noob7> just wanted to remind you :D doesn'thave to happen now
13:55 <epsy> well, can i do that later on ?
13:55 <noob7> sure ;)
13:56 <epsy> i was gonna go
13:56 <noob7> ok
13:58 <epsy> done restarting serv
14:11 <noob7> everything ok?
14:11 <noob7> or you need other changes as well?
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14:23 <luke-jr> …
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14:36 <wrtlprnft_> test ¹²³ ←↓→↑
14:36 <wrtlprnft> test ¹²³ ←↓→↑
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14:49 <deja_vu> O.o
14:52 <wrtlprnft> o.O
14:53 <luke-jr> O.o
14:53 <wrtlprnft> o.O.o
15:05 <deja_vu> o_O
15:18 <luke-jr> O.o.O.o.o.o.O.o.>.>.<
15:19 <luke-jr> someone go make a change to 0.2.8 svn so we can test my new ebuilds
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15:56 <epsy> noob7, auto_team 0 if it's still not set
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19:27 <epsy> mh
19:29 <epsy> can someone help me with sed ?
19:29 <epsy> mpc | sed '2,~1s/.*$//m'
19:29 <epsy> i'm trying to get only the first line
19:30 <epsy> but this returns me the first line then 2 empty lines :P
19:32 <epsy> oh
19:32  * epsy just ofund that example :P http://www.gnu.org/software/sed/manual/html_node/head.html#head
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19:49 <tramshed> couldnt you just head it?
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20:53 <spidey> i'm change my last name to zer
20:53 <spidey> so when i have i kid i can name him lu
20:55 <epsy> http://mots-croises.sensagent.com/dictionnaire-mots-croises/recherche-mots-croises.jsp?w=**LU&dl=fr&tl=en&e=UTF-8
20:55 <epsy> brb
20:56 <MaZuffeR> http://www.explosm.net/comics/1035/ :D
20:57 <epsy> LLI
20:58 <epsy> heh that made me smile :p
21:15 <epsy> http://bash.org/?809302
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21:39 <spidey> luke-jr: ping
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21:58 <Stewie-arma> #armaservers
21:58 <armabot> Stewie-arma: This data is 300 seconds old; Fortress Café (14/32), ¬| D u r k a  D u r k a  L an d | ¬ (13/16), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (11/14), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (7/10), Norm's Place (7/12), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (7/12), Swampland in 0.2.8 (6/8), ~"XzL.Clan The Server (5/12), SPACEZONE FORMULA 1 (5/8), The Tronic Donkeys AFL (2 more messages)
21:59 <Stewie-arma> #tea
21:59 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Fortress Café: Players (15/32): 1200, Aralt, Beni, Bin Laden, Bush, dIsOrIeNtEd, fichaje, newbÎd, Saddam hussain, USA|Gazelle, |<, |x| Legit, ~*SP*~oO.k3nNy, ~{GP}~Gabor, ~{GP}~Spot
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22:17 <Durka> epsy, MaZuffeR ping
22:17 <MaZuffeR> we're playing atm
22:18 <Durka> I see CT has only 3 ish, could I join since it's a practice match
22:18 <Durka> i'll help them out? :D
22:19 <epsy> k
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22:19 <epsy> come
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22:31 <Ady> #lastseen jihad
22:31 <armabot> Ady: [JIHAD]I has last been seen on Fortress Café 1 minute ago.
22:31 <Ady> #svinfo cafe
22:32 <Ady> #serverinfo cafe
22:32 <armabot> Ady: Fortress Café: Players (4/32): Zop, [JIHAD] Bush, [jihad] Laden, [JIHAD]I
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22:47 <Lucifer_arma> bahahahaha
22:47 <Lucifer_arma> so my wife is using the computer in the bedroom
22:48 <Lucifer_arma> which happens to be the thick-dick server for the thin client in the living room
22:48 <Lucifer_arma> and I unfortunately haven't managed to get a sound daemon running for the client in the living room
22:48 <Lucifer_arma> so the sound still comes out the speakers in the back, since multiple users logged in simultaneously can perfectly share the sound card
22:48 <Lucifer_arma> and the speakers are turned up all the way, because taht computer in the bedroom is also my alarm clock
22:49 <Lucifer_arma> my wife gives my daughter permission to use the computer in the living room
22:49 <Lucifer_arma> of course, being an 8 year old girl, she's going to websites with flash games for kids, with cartoon characters and sound effects and stuff
22:49 <Lucifer_arma> it was pretty funny :)
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23:12 <spidey> lol
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23:35 <Flex-> greetings :)
23:35 <epsy> hay Flex-
23:35 <Flex-> hey
23:36 <epsy> http://tronicdonkeys.free.fr/index.php?c=1#news3
23:36 <epsy> :)
23:37 <Flex-> cool
23:37 <Flex-> want to play x? :)
23:37 <epsy> heh
23:37 <epsy> dunno
23:37 <Flex-> training/fun match ofcourse :)
23:37 <epsy> when ?
23:38 <Flex-> I'm not quite sure..
23:38 <Flex-> lol
23:38 <epsy> lol
23:38 <Flex-> check thius
23:38 <Flex-> http://parisfacial.ytmnd.com/
23:38 <epsy> yes i seen it
23:39 <epsy> what's this ytmnd toy you found out lol
23:40 <Flex-> lol, na i knew about it awhile ago, just refreshed on it :)
23:41 <Flex-> Alright so it seems like xclan isn't doing anything tomorrow..
23:41 <Flex-> do you think you can notify your team for tomorrow?
23:41 <P4> epsy: satursday or saturday? :}
23:42 <epsy> eek
23:42 <epsy> i think
23:42 <P4> #t en de saturday
23:42 <armabot> P4: Samstag
23:42 <P4> ^^ :}
23:43 <spidey> anyone here know russian? :P
23:43 <P4> sure :} armabot knows :)
23:43 <P4> why? :}
23:44 <P4> i can translate you ru->en but not backward
23:44 <spidey> #t ru en Возможно ли заменить не совсем корректно работающий
23:44 <armabot> spidey: 'R\'R\x00R\xb7R\x00R\x00R\xb6R\x00R\x00 To r"Re Of r\xb7R\xb0R\x00R\xb5R\x00ReS\'S\x00 R\x00R\xb5 OF S\x00R\x00R\x00S\x00R\xb5R\x00 OF R\x00R\x00S\x00S\x00R\xb5R\x00S\'R\x00R\x00 Of s\x00R\xb0R\xb1R\x00S\'R\xb0S\x00S\x00ReR\x00'
23:44 <spidey> ...
23:44 <epsy> lol!
23:45 <P4> hmm
23:45 <Flex-> lolol
23:46 <Flex-> if it's translation you need, you could try google translator or bubble something
23:46 <P4> wozmozno il zamienic nie sowsiem koriektno pabotajoszczij <=- this would sound in polish and in english it's mean...
23:46 <P4> bah... take a look here http://babelfish.altavista.com/
23:47 <epsy> http://www.ip-adress.com/details.php?c=UVhOdWFlaHlaWE09OlJsST06Um5KaGJtTmw6Ok9ESXVOall1TVRBMUxqVXk6VUhKdmVHRms6TkRjdU16Z3pNekF4Ok5TNHdNek16TURBPTpaM0psT1RJdE1pMDRNaTAyTmkweE1EVXROVEl1Wm1KNExuQnliM2hoWkM1dVpYUT06OlVISnZlR0ZrSUM4Z1JuSmxaU0JUUVZNPTo6UVRFPTpRbTkxY21kdloyNWw6UlhWeWIzQmxMMUJoY21seg==
23:48 <P4> Too many queries! Register now!
23:48 <P4> :|
23:48 <P4> anyway nice portal, epsy :)
23:48 <Flex-> hey epsy, so is tomorrow fine? around 20:00 GMT xclan server?
23:48 <epsy> yeah
23:48 <P4> spidey: in your sentece someone wants to exchange something
23:48 <epsy> you have a server ?
23:48 <epsy> where it is hosted ?
23:48 <spidey> o
23:49 <spidey> ack
23:49 <spidey> i'll just run it in wine
23:49 <epsy> ?
23:50 <spidey> rapidshare thing
23:50 <spidey> like, a download manager
23:50 <P4> You reached the limit of 0 lookup queries per day. <=- omg... epsy: are you registred there?
23:50 <epsy> yes i just did
23:51 <epsy> i hope it's not just a spam service
23:51 <epsy> #last --with explo
23:51 <armabot> epsy: [20:55:19] <MaZuffeR> http://www.explosm.net/comics/1035/ :D
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23:53 <epsy> Flex-, up
23:54 <Flex-> yeah we do
23:55 <Flex-> ¦x¦-Fortress.Server it's called
23:55 <epsy> i said WHERE not how it's called :P
23:55 <Flex-> the one wrtlprnft is hosting I think?
23:55 <Flex-> germany
23:55 <epsy> oh
23:55 <epsy> i forgot it was fortress test server
23:55 <Flex-> yeah
23:55 <epsy> well, i'm k with that
23:56 <epsy> i'ill tell you tomorrow if we can have enough players
23:56 <Flex-> sure could you set up a thread in the forum section so i can check there :)
23:56 <epsy> k
23:59 <epsy> rofl, legi told me when preparing his leave from turbo that he was leaving tron
23:59  * epsy laughs

Log from 2007-09-30:
--- Day changed Sun Sep 30 2007
00:01  * spidey doesn't care
00:03 <spidey> he should die while he's at it
00:03 <spidey> along with a long list of others
00:03 <spidey> :D
00:03 <epsy> invitation to shut the fuck up
00:03 <spidey> invatation to kiss my ass
00:04 <epsy> declination of invitation
00:04 <epsy> reiteration of last invitation
00:04 <spidey> delination of the invitation is undeclinationable
00:05 <epsy> suggestion to check spelling
00:05 <Flex-> epsy come to nexus9 :D
00:05 <spidey> who cares about spelling?
00:05 <spidey> :)
00:05 <epsy> :PP
00:05 <epsy> #sd nexu
00:05 <armabot> epsy: Nexus9 (NO RUBBER!): Players (2/16): N9::MreDD, ¦Ö¦Elex
00:05 <epsy> Ö
00:05 <epsy> :Ö
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00:11 <epsy> urgh
00:11 <spidey> yawn
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00:17 <epsy> Flex-, done: http://xclan.armagetron.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=42
00:22 <Flex-> sorted thx :)
00:23 <Flex-> lol i convicted you? lol
00:23 <epsy> :P
00:24 <Flex-> even if you meant convinced :P i just offered and you accepted lol
00:24 <epsy> ^^
00:31 <P4> haha! did you know that? http://www.miscproject.com/blog/firefox-game-firetron/ :D
00:32 <P4> this is your armagetron not firetron! :P
00:32 <P4> lol! :D
00:32 <epsy> LOL!
00:33 <Flex-> w00t
00:34 <epsy> #lastseen hoop
00:34 <armabot> epsy: hoop has last been seen on  Wild West  =Sumo= 19 hours 16 minutes ago.
00:35 <Flex-> #lastseen flex
00:35 <armabot> Flex-: ¦×¥Flex has last been seen on Nexus9 (NO RUBBER!) 23 minutes ago.
00:35 <Flex-> ooooooo
00:35 <Flex-> 23 minutes ago!
00:35 <P4> btw is ai_iq max 100? it can be set to 1En where n is huuuuge :)
00:40 <epsy> P4, the recording is up
00:48 <P4> :}
00:48 <epsy> :D
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00:55 <ghableska> #weather 50266
00:56 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 78.1°F (5:53 PM CDT on September 29, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 51.8°F. Pressure: 28.98 in 981.3 hPa (Falling).
00:56 <ghableska> #tea
00:56 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: No online players.
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03:51 <luke-jr_> LOL
03:52 <luke-jr_> *finally* this guy gets a clue
03:52 <luke-jr_> he's been PMing me bugging me asking for help making maps
03:58 <luke-jr_> I ended up quoting him $25/hr if he wants private tutoring; otherwise he can ask the entire forum and stop bugging me specifically
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04:17 <Stewie-arma> #armaservers
04:17 <armabot> Stewie-arma: This data i