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Log from 2007-08-20:
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00:39 <HellBlade-Arma> herro
00:39 <HellBlade-Arma> ...
00:41 <HellBlade-Arma> alright
00:41 <HellBlade-Arma> yay no more bells
00:41 <HellBlade-Arma> HellBlade-Arma
00:42 <HellBlade-Arma> hmmmm
00:42 <HellBlade-Arma> oh well
00:42 <HellBlade-Arma> did growl stop working?
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00:57 <ghableska> #weather 50266
00:57 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 86.0°F (6:02 PM CDT on August 19, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 71.6°F. Pressure: 28.81 in 975.5 hPa (Steady).
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01:04 <tramshed> erik
01:04 <tramshed> arg, wrong network
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02:30 <ghableska> #weather 50266
02:30 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 82.8°F (7:34 PM CDT on August 19, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 68.0°F. Pressure: 28.80 in 975.2 hPa (Falling).
02:30 <ghableska> #armaservers
02:30 <armabot> ghableska: This data is 57 seconds old; Norm's Place (10/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), ë | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | ì/xff9900 (8/16), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (7/14), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (6/12), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (5/12), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (5/12), Wild West  =Sumo= (5/14), SPACEZONE III (4/15), The Lobster Cage (3/7), (1 more message)
02:30 <ghableska> #more
02:30 <armabot> ghableska: Swampland II (3/12), Wild West  =Cockpit=  ~Multi~Mode~ (3/16), Fortress Café (3/32)
02:30 <ghableska> #tea
02:30 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (3/32): 1200, ~cOw~, ~|DS|~ judders
02:30 <ghableska> #lastseen 2020
02:31 <armabot> ghableska: timed out
02:55 -!- P4|away is now known as P4
02:56 <GodTodd> anyone know a better burning program than k3b?
03:11 <P4> GodTodd: Linux Burning Studio?
03:11 <P4> ( http://www.cdrlab.pl/article_strona_4555_2_Linux+Burning+Studio_System+i+repozytoria.html )
03:47 <Vanhayes> ghableska: pong ( you pinged me yesterday)
03:47 <Vanhayes> #last --from ghableska --with ping
03:47 <armabot> Vanhayes: [23:13:48] <ghableska> Vanhayes: ping
03:48 <ghableska> Vanhayes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLXRVvA6T9k
03:48 <ghableska> it's Canadian o_O
03:50 <Vanhayes> heh I saw this on CBC a while ago, its the rick mercer monday report
03:50 <Vanhayes> well he does it on the monday report too, not the whole half hour though
03:51 <ghableska> ah
03:51 <ghableska> it's funny :)
03:53 <ghableska> "Congratulations Canada, for legalizing insulin"
03:55 <Vanhayes> heh, "Do you think the US should be bombing Saskatchowan?" "Yes I do"
03:56 <ghableska> I like the part about leaving senior citizens on ice floes. :p
03:58 <Vanhayes> the best is where they congragulate canada for joining North america in 2000
03:59 <ghableska> haha
03:59 <ghableska> well, congrats Vanhayes ;)
04:00 <ghableska> wow, he got the governor too o_O
04:00 <Vanhayes> ya just saw
04:00 <Vanhayes> heh, national Igloo
04:00 <ghableska> and he's running for president
04:00 <ghableska> ack
04:00 <Vanhayes> hahahaha, Really?
04:00 <ghableska> yep
04:01 <ghableska> http://www.mikehuckabee.com/
04:01 <Vanhayes> if gets elected, or even close I might die from laughter
04:01 <ghableska> I might die of shame
04:01 <ghableska> atleast I'm not from Arkansas
04:01 <Vanhayes> and Probably wont go to america for 4 to 8 years
04:01 <ghableska> haha
04:02 <ghableska> have you gone to the US before?
04:03 <Vanhayes> quiute a few times
04:03 <ghableska> I've never gone to Canada :/
04:03 <Vanhayes> maine mostly, which is pretty much like new brunswick
04:04 <ghableska> ah
04:04 <Vanhayes> farthest Ive been is boston last summer, stayed at this old ex narc cops house who was a freind of my dads
04:04 <ghableska> cool
04:04 <ghableska> hahaha, I love the national anthem
04:05 <Vanhayes> its the real one too, I swear
04:05 <ghableska> :P
04:05 <ghableska> go jerk a turkey
04:05 <Vanhayes> never again, I dont need the money
04:06 <ghableska> haha
04:06 <Vanhayes> heh canadar the 5th season
04:06 <ghableska> wow, you have FM radio now?
04:06 <ghableska> hehe
04:07 <ghableska> "beaverballs"
04:08 <Vanhayes> we have something called beaver tails here
04:09 <Vanhayes> its a pancake in the chape of a beaver tail with maple syrup on it
04:09 <Vanhayes> shape*
04:09 <ghableska> ah
04:09 <ghableska> we have buffalo wings
04:09 <ghableska> which are actually made out of chicken wings o_O
04:09 <Vanhayes> we have those here too
04:09 <Vanhayes> ahaha saskatchewan fishermen, awesome
04:10 <ghableska> :P
04:10 <ghableska> bbl
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04:32 <spidey> luke-jr_work, ping
04:37 <tramshed> * Ping reply from spidey: 1.75 second(s)
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04:55 <ghableska> whoa
04:56 <Vanhayes> ?
04:57 <ghableska> Rick came to Des Moines :o
04:58 <Vanhayes> heh ya, he talked with your governor
04:58 <Vanhayes> also, Bush was happy Canada's Primeminister John Poutine endorsed him when he ran for President
04:59 <ghableska> hmm
05:01 <ghableska> ouch, it was painful to watch Vilsack say that
05:01 <ghableska> he's running for president too :p
05:04 <spidey> ran paul > other guys
05:04 <spidey> ron paul*
05:04 <ghableska> ?
05:04 <spidey> ron paul should be president of canada and usa :p
05:05 <ghableska> #kill spidey
05:05 <armabot> spidey will die on 08:03 PM, July 06, 2007 GMT due to being stabbed in the eye by ghableska
05:09 <ghableska> ahahaha
05:10 <ghableska> lmao
05:10 <ghableska> http://futuremark.yougamers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23914
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05:42 <Lucifer_arma> ron paul's totally bonkers
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> he says he wants to do away with all these departments, but once he takes the narcotic known as Presidential Power, he'll realize that those departments are his power and try to expand them instead
05:44 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, maybe
05:44 <spidey> but i'm hoping not :p
05:44 <Seeker> hi luci
05:45 <spidey> wow
05:45 <spidey> there's this guy, that's been flooding our site/servers
05:46 <spidey> so we decided to report his site(which is about "hacking")(which is also against his hosts ToS)
05:46 <spidey> here's what was found lol
05:46 <spidey> him -> a fake hosting site he setup so people would report abuse there -> real host which is a reseller -> real-real host
05:46 <spidey> rofl
05:48 <GodTodd> grrr i fucking give up :/
05:49 <spidey> quitter!
05:49 <spidey> only quitters quit!
05:49 <GodTodd> i've gone through no less than 25 cds
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05:50 <GodTodd> can't convert machines to linux if i can't get a good iso burn
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05:53 <GodTodd> i would think that burning an iso would be *easier* in linux :/
05:59 <luke-jr_work> it is
05:59 <spidey> not really
05:59 <luke-jr_work> spidey: wtf?
05:59 <spidey> to burn in windows
06:00 <spidey> download/install burn4free -> burn iso
06:00 <spidey> bam, you got a iso :D
06:00 <luke-jr_work> to burn in Linux
06:00 <luke-jr_work> cdrecord dev=/dev/cdrw some.iso
06:00 <luke-jr_work> no install needed :)
06:00 <spidey> liar
06:00 <luke-jr_work> u
06:00 <spidey> nou
06:01 <GodTodd> i did: cdrecord -v speed=4 dev=/dev/cdrom driveropts=burnfree /home/todd/downloads/kubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso
06:01 <spidey> http://www.zipservers.com/quad_processor.shtml
06:01 <spidey> i
06:01 <spidey> want
06:01 <spidey> that
06:01 <spidey> server
06:01 <luke-jr_work> stfu and help me setup MIPv6
06:01 <spidey> 4 dualcore opteron cpu's
06:02 <GodTodd> guess i'll have to dual boot one of the servers so that i can still get good isos :/
06:02 <spidey> haha
06:03 <GodTodd> cuz i know it's not bad cds or a bad burner since both did fine on burning under windows
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: try again with K3B :)
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> hi seeker
06:05 <GodTodd> i've tried 20 times with k3b
06:05 <GodTodd> different downloads, different speeds
06:06 <luke-jr_work> GodTodd: I've burned straight from the internet before
06:06 <luke-jr_work> curl http://blabla/.../some.iso | cdrecord ... -
06:06 <luke-jr_work> IIRC
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmm
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> you're right that it should work if it works in windows
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> is it an older burner?
06:10 <GodTodd> 2-3 years
06:10  * Lucifer_arma has never had a problem burning iso images
06:10 <GodTodd> burns everything else fine
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> just not iso images?
06:10 <GodTodd> make audio cds and crap no problem
06:10 <GodTodd> isos are the only thing i've had trouble with
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> are you sure the disc is 700MB and not one of the older 650MB discs?
06:10 <GodTodd> yep
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> what's the problem when it boots?  Maybe it's booting fine, but there's something wrong with the computer itself :)
06:11 <GodTodd> 80min/700MB/48x CD-R
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> I've had that, bad memory that doesn't visibly affect windows causes a kernel panic in linux
06:11 <GodTodd> when i run cd integrity check it finds errors on the cd
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> is it a new cd spindle you opened?  Have you burned onto cds from this batch before?
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> it's possible you got a bad batch of discs...
06:13 <GodTodd> yep
06:13 <GodTodd> i burned the iso for the ubuntu i put on here on this spindle
06:13 <luke-jr_work> [23:08:39] <GodTodd> cuz i know it's not bad cds or a bad burner since both did fine on burning under windows
06:16 <Lucifer_arma> did you try booting from one of the burns anyway?
06:18 <GodTodd> all of them
06:18 <GodTodd> and i'm trying one in the kitchen machine too
06:18 <GodTodd> that has booted ubuntu live cds before
06:20 <GodTodd> trying a burn on a different spindle
06:20 <GodTodd> different brand, 52x as opposed to 48x
06:20 <luke-jr_work> you realize the latest Ubuntus suck for hardware support, right?
06:20 <GodTodd> still 80min/700MB
06:21 <GodTodd> still cranked down to 4x write
06:25 <GodTodd> well...fuck a duck...it seems to have booted on the kitchen machine :/
06:26 <GodTodd> moving slow as hell...but hey it's a livecd ;)
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, livecds are slower than dirt
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> grrr, kpilot has crashed
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> probably I need to delete all of it's old data
06:31 <GodTodd> only reason i have to run the livecds is to make sure that some of the hardware is supported
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> damn, why doesn't kpilot work?
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> :(
06:42  * GodTodd has never used kpilot
06:42 <GodTodd> does ubuntu SE have a livecd?
06:42 <GodTodd> only option it gives me on boot is install
06:42 <GodTodd> not run/install
06:42 <GodTodd> motherfuckingcocksucker
06:42 <GodTodd> it's booting on that laptop now :/
06:42 <luke-jr_work> blarg
06:43 <GodTodd> er...it *was* anyway....letting it run until it works or i get some sort of error
06:52 <GodTodd> hrmm...still can't get it to boot fully on the laptop...does that point to bad memory or something with the cdrom?
06:52 <GodTodd> (no errors)
06:54 <GodTodd> nvm...running the mem test
06:54 <Lucifer_arma> hey, sometimes you just have to look at it
06:55 <GodTodd> look at what?
06:55 <Lucifer_arma> the thing that's broken?
06:56 <GodTodd> not sure what's broken tho
06:56 <Lucifer_arma> how's the mem test going?
06:56 <GodTodd> ok so far
06:56 <GodTodd> the laptop's a duron 900...should run linux fine ;)
06:57 <GodTodd> he wants to run linux "like daddy does" heh
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> do I want to install sun-java5 or sun-java6?
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> hell, my server's a duron 900
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> been running linux for years :)
07:00 <GodTodd> not much difference between java 5 and 6
07:00 <GodTodd> the jump was 4-5
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> http://gcaldaemon.sourceforge.net/  <--- this is what I want to run
07:01 <GodTodd> ubuntu server...is there a way to run it before installing or is it just a blind install?
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> blind install, sorry
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> it's a server, you're supposed to already know what you're doing :)
07:02 <GodTodd> ok
07:03 <GodTodd> well...i do...with everything except samba
07:03 <GodTodd> :)
07:03 <GodTodd> i just need that server to share the printers with linux and windows
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> you know, the whole world gets easier when you remove windows entirely and just install doors
07:04 <GodTodd> as for java...i'm one of those that installs the latest available until it breaks something
07:04 <GodTodd> :)
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> considering how this gcaldaemon works, I could probably write a workable clone of it in python fairly simply
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> well, java5 is giving me the right-versioned jre, which is what really matters to me right now
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> I've got af ew things left to do before I"m ready for school to start, and getting my palm to sync with google calendar is one of them
07:05 <GodTodd> i would go complete linux if karen didn't need win shit for work :/
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> (getting my printer back running is the other)
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> I swear that's what terminal services is for :)
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> rdesktop can even run individual applications instead of doing a whole login
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> haven't tried it, but it says it can do it
07:06 <GodTodd> vpns too?
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> wtf is vpns?
07:06 <GodTodd> virtual private network
07:07 <GodTodd> for when she has to work on her work box (and their servers) from home
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> sure, depends entirely on how they've set it up
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> (in other words, I'd need to know the name of the client she's running to find out)
07:08 <GodTodd> ummm...i think it's a homebrew client
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> virtual private network = buzzword
07:08 <GodTodd> let me check
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> sshfs :)
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> http://fuse.sourceforge.net/sshfs.html   <--- that's all you need, speed
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, the idea behind a terminal server is that you keep one old windows box laying around that's well-integrated in your network, and use terminal services to serve up sessions
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> use rdesktop in linux to connect, and you've got your windows carefully locked away where you can use it when you need it, and otherwise not use it
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> but the catch is you have to have a good terminal server running, and microsoft's is the best available for windows, but it requires a windows server OS
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> I gave away my last copy of win2k advanced server, so I'd have to go bt to get something or other.  :/
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> if your server is buff enough, you could run your windows machine inside a vmware session :)
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> z-man linked us to an open source app very similar to vmware, so there's an option over there that doesn't cost $400
07:13 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, lots of options, the hard part is figuring which one you really want, because they all take work.  If you have a windows server OS, I think the terminal services route is the easiest, but it requires a dedicated machine
07:14 <GodTodd> i have all the windows server oses you could possibly (not) want ;)
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, I might be interested in one sometime :)
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> now that I have a machine tough enough to run a virtual server, anyway
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> hey, have you seen these liquid graphite pencils from pentech?
07:19 <GodTodd> nope
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmm
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> I bought a pack of 'em at costco the other day
07:19 <GodTodd> they cool?
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> they write like ball point pens, but their output is pencil lead
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> 0.5mm, it says
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> but they write like ball point pens, with all the good *and* bad that that entails
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> I guess I'll found out if they're cool when school starts
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> I either bought a really awesome piece of writing technology, or I totally wasted $10
07:20 <GodTodd> probably cuts down on lead breakage
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> tht's what I was thinking, but then you have a pencil that depends on gravity :/
07:21 <GodTodd> true
07:21 <GodTodd> but do you break lead more often than you write upside down?
07:21 <GodTodd> ;)
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> yes :)
07:21 <GodTodd> then my money is on the pros outweighing the cons :)
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> but depending on gravity is its own problem.  Takes a pen that's been laying on its side several minutes of writing before it comes out thick and solid
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> heaven forbid you should accidentally put it in your backpack tip up, the thing may never write again!
07:22 <GodTodd> guess it depends on the viscosity of the liquid graphite then
07:22 <GodTodd> and hope you have a backup for those *really* cold days ;)
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> yeah.  Although I haven't had a problem with pens laying on their sides recently, so maybe I'm just making up problems that aren't going to happen
07:23  * GodTodd doesn't know if liquid graphite is prone to freezing or not.
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> heh
07:24  * Lucifer_arma wonders how likely it is that there will be freezing weather in austin this year
07:25 <GodTodd> hey...we've had ice days before :P
07:25 <Lucifer_arma> man, this gcaldaemon is such a fucking hack
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> better if I could write a conduit for kpilot using python
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07:40 <HellBlade-Arma> ping xfroggy
07:46 <HellBlade-Arma> can someone help me with something?
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> the secret is to bang the rocks together
07:54 <HellBlade-Arma> awww
07:54 <HellBlade-Arma> I got it now
07:54 <HellBlade-Arma> TY Lucifer_arma
07:55 <luke-jr_work> wee
07:56 <GodTodd> well...the kubuntu burn works fine in the wife's laptop (zooms even)
07:57 <DrJoeTron> http://shop3.outpost.com/%7BXVBqqS+Zd-OnurLzoCSI-Q**.node2%7D/product/5316838;jsessionid=XVBqqS+Zd-OnurLzoCSI-Q**.node2?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG how does this look for a monitor,
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> but not in the kid's laptop?
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> DrJoeTron: can't tell, because I have to look at it on my existing monitor
08:01 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: yep but not the kid's laptop :/
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> how old is it?
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> the laptop, not the burn :)
08:01 <GodTodd> pretty old...not sure...it's a hand me down....probably upwards of 5-6 years old
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> that's old enough to have some wonkety hardware in it
08:02 <spidey> wow
08:02 <spidey> it's almost as old as mine
08:02 <GodTodd> i've installed linux on older machines (but not ubuntu)
08:02 <spidey> this pc was made in 2002ish
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> cdrom drives are sensitive to aging :/
08:03 <GodTodd> spidey: that's why it's a kid machine ;)
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> I say that, but the cdrom drives I have that actually work are my really old ones
08:03 <spidey> wtf?
08:03 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: yeah...i'm fearing that the cdrom may be the problem
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> the newest ones, besides the one in my laptop, are broken
08:03 <spidey> GodTodd, my machine probably goes through more hell than 2 of yours :p
08:03 <spidey> and it still runs great :D
08:03 <GodTodd> spidey: i wouldn't count on that :P
08:04 <GodTodd> my server upstairs is from when i started school the second time
08:04 <GodTodd> @2000ish
08:04 <spidey> my server beside me is from the dinointernet age
08:04 <spidey> pentium 2
08:04 <GodTodd> duron 750 for mine upstairs
08:05 <spidey> i have a older one..
08:05  * GodTodd prefers amd chips
08:05 <spidey> pentium 1 :D
08:05 <GodTodd> oh yeah? well...the first computer i bought was a 386 sx 16 :P
08:05 <spidey> last amd i used shutdown every 2 hours
08:05  * GodTodd gets into the pissing match ;)
08:05 <spidey> so i'm not a big fan of them
08:06 <GodTodd> amd running upstairs for 7 years strong
08:06 <GodTodd> it's outlasted a PS
08:06 <spidey> PS?
08:06 <GodTodd> power supply
08:06 <spidey> psu :p
08:07 <spidey> first pc i ever used was this little apple like thing
08:07 <spidey> it had a small monitor
08:07  * GodTodd doesn't know anyone that says "i'm going to replace that power supply unit" :P
08:07 <GodTodd> don't even go into first computer used ;)
08:07 <GodTodd> ever hear of the VIC20?
08:07 <GodTodd> :P
08:07 <spidey> no
08:07 <GodTodd> exactly
08:07 <GodTodd> :)
08:08 <GodTodd> 82-83ish
08:08 <spidey> lol
08:08 <spidey> o
08:08 <spidey> commodore
08:08 <GodTodd> yeah...i remember the C64
08:09 <spidey> 5kb ram?
08:09 <spidey> my text editor uses more than that!
08:09 <GodTodd> the VIC20 was cassette tape based
08:15 <GodTodd> wooo....zoomed at upwards of 1 MHz too
08:15 <GodTodd> :)
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> my server's got amd crap in it
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> oh hell, the only intel chip I've got running right now is running as a thin client
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> wait, that's not true anymore, heh
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> nvm
08:17  * Lucifer_arma goes back to gcaldaemon
08:22 <Lucifer_arma> great, I've got gcaldaemon working with one calendar, but I have a bunch of google calendars I need synced!  :/
08:29 <GodTodd> a debian walkthrough of cups/samba setup should more or less work for ubuntu server, right? (since ubuntu is debian based)
08:30 <GodTodd> cuz i found a snazzy walkthrough that almost gives me the confidence to just do the print server
08:30 <GodTodd> :)
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08:34 <Lucifer_arma> more or less, heh :)
08:34 <Lucifer_arma> there's probably an ubuntu walkthrough somewhere
08:44 <GodTodd> probably :)
09:00 <Lucifer_arma> man, I broke my calendar :/
09:00 <Lucifer_arma> hopefully it's fixable, though
09:11 <HellBlade-Arma> alright
09:11 <HellBlade-Arma> hmm
09:11 <HellBlade-Arma> darn it
09:12 <HellBlade-Arma> sorry I'm testing some settings
09:13 <HellBlade-Arma> alright
09:13 <HellBlade-Arma> there we go
09:14 <HellBlade-Arma> hmm why isn't growl working
09:14 <Lucifer_arma> I'll deal with this tomorrow
09:14 <Lucifer_arma> at least it syncs to my pda, even if I screwed up the timezone
09:14 <HellBlade-Arma> hmmm
09:14 <HellBlade-Arma> why isn't it showing my messages?
09:15 <HellBlade-Arma> and why is yours staying up...
09:15 <HellBlade-Arma> my growl is freaking out
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09:16 <HellBlade-Arma> darn it
09:16 <HellBlade-Arma> this is annoying
09:18 <HellBlade-Arma> I think I might need to restart
09:18 <HellBlade-Arma> #uptime
09:18 <HellBlade-Arma> awww
09:18 <HellBlade-Arma> I remember on zoite you could do that -.-
09:20 <HellBlade-Arma> Uptime - 26 days 9 hours 55 minutes 43 seconds
09:20 <HellBlade-Arma> you think I'm due for a restart?
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09:29 <Stewie-arma> #weather 92037
09:30 <armabot> Stewie-arma: The current temperature in La Jolla Shores, La Jolla, California is 77.2°F (12:35 AM PDT on August 20, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 66.2°F. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011.4 hPa (Rising).
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09:56 <spidey> ooookkk
09:56 <spidey> so i'ma attempt to install *nix
09:56 <spidey> again
10:07 <spidey> aye
10:07 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, are you there? or luke-jr_work
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10:26 <Lucifer_arma> sorta, depends on how long it takes to answer the question
10:35 <tramshed> 34seconds.
10:40 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, it'll take a bit
10:40 <spidey> i need help installing ATI drivers =/
10:40 <spidey> i can't get them to work under ubuntu
10:43 <Lucifer_arma> ah, I'm not going to be able to help then anyway, sorry
10:43 <spidey> :(
10:44 <eddiefantastic> you try enabling the restricted drivers?
10:44 <eddiefantastic> if it's a recent ati card
10:44 <spidey> 9250
10:45 <eddiefantastic> system->administration>restricted drivers
10:45 <spidey> well
10:45 <eddiefantastic> see if your card is there, if so, enable the restricted drivers
10:45 <spidey> i'll be building a desktop from the server install
10:45 <spidey> because i don't have any blank cd's anymore
10:46 <eddiefantastic> that's ok, just apt-get install gnome
10:46 <eddiefantastic> then go from there
10:46 <spidey> fluxbox! :(
10:46 <spidey> i guess gnome will work though
10:46 <eddiefantastic> not used that, exect on my xbox
10:46 <eddiefantastic> *except
10:47 <spidey> last time i had a friend helping, he said i needed the generic kerna
10:47 <spidey> kernal
10:47 <eddiefantastic> you have feisty fawn right?
10:47 <spidey> feisty won't even boot for me
10:47 <spidey> it gives me a error screen due to my gfx
10:47 <eddiefantastic> ah, you wont have restricted drivers then :(
10:48 <spidey> red box, not sure what it says
10:48 <eddiefantastic> what is the 9250? a very recent one?
10:48 <spidey> hmm
10:48 <eddiefantastic> I hear linux and ati aren't the best friends
10:48 <spidey> ati visiontek radeon 9250
10:49 <spidey> yea, me to heh
10:49 <spidey> i think it came out in
10:49 <spidey> 2005
10:49 <spidey> though i bought mine like 4 months ago
10:50 <eddiefantastic> you could install your older ubuntu, update the sources to feisty, run apt-get upgrade, then gnome, then enable restricted drivers ;)
10:50 <spidey> the guy helping me also had me do that
10:50 <eddiefantastic> but it's a long shot
10:50 <spidey> i ended up reinstalling ubuntu
10:52 <Lucifer_arma> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goliath_birdeater
10:52 <eddiefantastic> http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.24.8.html
10:52 <eddiefantastic> not done it myself, but it looks fairly straightforward
10:52 <eddiefantastic> if it works
10:52 <spidey> yea, was reading it earlier
10:58 <spidey> shit
10:59 <spidey> i accidently encrypted the folder with all my movies in them, so i decrypted them to move them, now half of them are weird, like green gamma/red gamma colors
11:02 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.spiderzrule.com/wolf%20spider.jpg  <--- just found one of these fuckers in my garage
11:02 <Lucifer_arma> big enough to make all sorts of noise when walking over a piece of cardboard
11:05 <spidey> i've killed one of those in the kitchen
11:05 <spidey> well, looked like that anyways
11:06 <spidey> was it about the size of one of those dollar coins?
11:06 <spidey> not the gold ones
11:06 <spidey> ah
11:06 <spidey> silver dallors, there we go
11:06 <spidey> dollars*
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14:50 <ghableska> #weather 50266
14:50 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 72.3°F (7:54 AM CDT on August 20, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 66.2°F. Pressure: 28.81 in 975.5 hPa (Rising).  Flash Flood Watch in effect from noon CDT today through Wednesday afternoon...
14:50 <ghableska> #tea
14:50 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: No online players.
14:52 <DrJoeTron> ghableska oh hai
14:53 <ghableska> hey DrJoeTron
14:54 <DrJoeTron> where have you been
14:54 <ghableska> out and about :p
14:54 <ghableska> school starts up on Wednesday :/
14:54 <DrJoeTron> ah
14:55 <ghableska> yeah
14:55 <Seeker> Hey doc.....hows it goin
14:55 <DrJoeTron> oh shit Seeker when the hell did you come in here
14:55 <DrJoeTron> :I
14:56 <Seeker> been here all mornin.......i sign in when i get to work
14:56 <Seeker> miss me?
14:56 <DrJoeTron> ahaha we must be on at awkward times then
14:56 <DrJoeTron> I did :3
14:56 <DrJoeTron> ghableska did you see the steam community shit?
14:56 <ghableska> no...?
14:57 <Seeker> luci told me to get my ass in gear and head over here (maybe not in those words ;) ) so I did
14:57 <DrJoeTron> its steam facebook
14:57 <DrJoeTron> or steambook
14:57 <DrJoeTron> or steamface
14:57 <DrJoeTron> or booksteam
14:58 <DrJoeTron> www.steamcommunity.com
14:58 <ghableska> o_O
14:58 <DrJoeTron> heah
14:58 <DrJoeTron> its like the facebook for nerds
14:58 <ghableska> haha, yeah
14:59 <DrJoeTron> if you apply for the beta on steam it gets added
14:59 <ghableska> so valve made it?
14:59 <DrJoeTron> and friends gets super graphical
14:59 <DrJoeTron> I guess so
14:59 <Seeker> afk
15:02 <ghableska> wow, it really is like a facebook for nerds
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15:07 <DrJoeTron> haha isn't it?
15:08 <DrJoeTron> i got really bored and joined groups one night
15:08 <ghableska> :o
15:08 <ghableska> oh, joe: http://futuremark.yougamers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23914
15:11 <DrJoeTron> ahahaha
15:11 <DrJoeTron> Never tell my password to anyone!
15:12 <ghableska> heh
15:15 <DrJoeTron> awesome the arma chat logs dont show up on google anymore!
15:15 <DrJoeTron> #m Thanks wrtlprnft :)
15:15 <armabot> DrJoeTron: The operation succeeded.
15:15 <ghableska> #realchatlogs
15:15 <armabot> ghableska: http://master3.armagetronad.net/armalogs/
15:19 <DrJoeTron> ghableska sign on to steam tia
15:19 <ghableska> can't. :/
15:19 <DrJoeTron> ur gibson was hacked? :/
15:19 <ghableska> nah
15:19 <ghableska> my computer is dead, heh
15:20 <DrJoeTron> how did you do that?
15:21 <ghableska> no clue, it just won't boot up for some reason
15:21 <DrJoeTron> like at all?
15:21 <DrJoeTron> does it make a sound?
15:21 <ghableska> it turns on...but doesn't boot
15:21 <ghableska> no beeps or anything
15:21 <DrJoeTron> the bios?
15:21 <Seeker> TURN ON THE MONITOR
15:21 <Seeker> armabot;)
15:21 <DrJoeTron> did you try clearing the cmos and then abandoning al hope?
15:22 <ghableska> err
15:22 <ghableska> no?
15:22 <DrJoeTron> try that
15:22 <ghableska> how?
15:22 <DrJoeTron> its either a jumper
15:22 <DrJoeTron> or a battery
15:22 <Seeker> or both
15:22 <DrJoeTron> either way unplug the computer from the wall
15:22 <DrJoeTron> locate the jumper or the battery
15:22 <DrJoeTron> its labeled on the motherboard usually
15:23 <ghableska> ok
15:23 <ghableska> bbbl
15:23 <DrJoeTron> if its a jumper, connect to the adjacent set of pins
15:23 <ghableska> *bbl
15:23 <DrJoeTron> wait for 10 seconds
15:23 <DrJoeTron> then put it back and reboot
15:24 <DrJoeTron> or pin
15:24 <DrJoeTron> i think its just a row of 3 and the jumper is on 2 of them
15:24 <Seeker> i hate dead puters
15:24 <DrJoeTron> right?
15:24 <DrJoeTron> they just take up space
15:24 <Seeker> yea
15:25 <DrJoeTron> my other one is a zombie
15:25 <DrJoeTron> it runs, but at half speed
15:25 <Seeker> usually the jumper is labeled clear cmos
15:25 <DrJoeTron> yeah
15:25 <DrJoeTron> i didnt know about the cmos trick untill i pissed of the motherboard
15:25 <Seeker> lol
15:25 <DrJoeTron> and kept hearing the speaker go BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP
15:26 <DrJoeTron> and refusing to boot
15:26 <Seeker> i actually pulled the mobo speaker OFF OF THE BOARD cause it wouldnt shut up once
15:26 <DrJoeTron> hahaha
15:26 <Seeker> i felt better
15:26 <DrJoeTron> when I was fooling around with Wiimote scripts on the pc
15:27 <DrJoeTron> this one program kept beeping the pc speaker
15:27 <DrJoeTron> it was so fuckign annoying
15:28 <Seeker> have you ever tried filling the little hole on the motherboard speaker with epoxy? I wonder if it would work
15:28 <DrJoeTron> hahaha
15:28 <DrJoeTron> i got this itty bitty one that just barely chirps
15:28 <Seeker> <--- pulls apart dell workstation and finds his jb weald
15:28 <DrJoeTron> the one thats in my server
15:28 <DrJoeTron> is so fucking loud
15:28 <Seeker> mind too
15:29 <Seeker> my raid aray died last month and it was sooo loud i didnt want to work  in the server room
15:30 <Seeker> i had a headach by the time i finished with it
15:30 <Seeker> Are you workin doc?
15:30 <DrJoeTron> yes
15:30 <DrJoeTron> at the moment no
15:30 <Seeker> lol......gotta love it
15:30 <Seeker> me too
15:31 <DrJoeTron> im not working till wednesday
15:31 <Seeker> so tired of cad........
15:31 <Seeker> wed?
15:31 <Seeker> why?
15:31 <DrJoeTron> heah till saturday
15:31 <Seeker> or is that just how it is
15:31 <DrJoeTron> thats when we're shooting
15:31 <Seeker> lol
15:31 <Seeker> ahh by choice....i see now
15:31 <DrJoeTron> nah thats just when the call is fo
15:31 <DrJoeTron> r
15:32 <DrJoeTron> i'll take any job they'll give me
15:32 <Seeker> what do you do?
15:32 <DrJoeTron> i work on movie sets
15:32 <Seeker> cool
15:32 <DrJoeTron> whatever they want me to do
15:32 <Seeker> better than my pos job
15:32 <DrJoeTron> this gig it looks like i'll be a PA
15:32 <DrJoeTron> which involves somewhat policing and going "heres your coffee sir"
15:33 <DrJoeTron> its pretty fun
15:33 <Seeker> bring me some coffee while your at it then
15:33 <DrJoeTron> yes sir :I
15:33 <Seeker> lol
15:34 <Seeker> i always seem to make my way back to arma, no matter how long im gone
15:34 <DrJoeTron> haha
15:35 <DrJoeTron> arma is getting more of a hassle to play for me
15:35 <Seeker> i was out for what.....almost a year this time
15:35 <DrJoeTron> you didnt really miss much
15:35 <DrJoeTron> just other people leaving
15:35 <DrJoeTron> and other people coming back
15:35 <Seeker> i have noticed there are a lot less good old style servers around now
15:35 <DrJoeTron> yeah :/
15:35 <DrJoeTron> we're a rare breed
15:36 <Seeker> i dont like the ones with the funky maps and stuff
15:36 <DrJoeTron> my servers are still up :V
15:36 <Seeker> which ones......i forgot
15:36 <Seeker> oh....the cage
15:36 <DrJoeTron> lobster cage, and shrunkland
15:36 <Seeker> i was there the other day
15:37 <Seeker> i bookmarked all the best old style sites
15:38 <Seeker> i think the maps may not have been the best idea for this game . but i dont mind the play styles like fortress or sumo.........just keep the good old square and 90 deg turns
15:39 <ghableska> ok, DrJoeTron
15:39 <eddiefantastic> Seeker: many people would disagree with you there. It's all about choice
15:39 <Seeker> i know
15:39 <Seeker> its just my opinion
15:39 <ghableska> what am I looking for?
15:39  * eddiefantastic the guy who makes all the maps and includes crazy settings
15:40 <Seeker> i dont have to play those maps, so I dont......but there are always a LOT of people in those servers
15:41 <eddiefantastic> yes, I'd have thought they'd be bored of them by now
15:41 <Seeker> i just like the simplicity of a good ole square
15:41 <Seeker> ;)
15:41 <eddiefantastic> me too, but also like the challenge of new maps/settings
15:42 <Seeker> if i want a challenge...ill put up a server with crazy speed and low rubber......
15:42 <eddiefantastic> ah, different type of challenge
15:42 <eddiefantastic> play a few matches at ctwf
15:42 <Seeker> yup
15:42 <Seeker> ?
15:42 <Seeker> ctwf
15:43 <eddiefantastic> crazy tronners wild fortress
15:43 <Seeker> i been gone for a year.....enlioghten me
15:43 <Seeker> ahh
15:43 <eddiefantastic> over 100 maps there now, with all manner of interesting settings
15:43 <Seeker> thats usually at the top of the list sorted by players
15:43 <eddiefantastic> it's a busy place
15:44 <ghableska> DrJoeTron:
15:44 <eddiefantastic> it's also not avoided by many
15:44 <Seeker> i remember playing fortress before I started playing oblivion and stopped with tron
15:44 <eddiefantastic> it's also avoided by many
15:45 <eddiefantastic> it's based on fortress, but with crazy maps and settings
15:45 <Seeker> i may pop in and have a go............maybe ill find somthing that catches my interest
15:45 <eddiefantastic> do so, I'd be interested how you like it
15:46 <eddiefantastic> it's not one of these high rubber, wall hugging affairs
15:46 <Seeker> thats one thing i love about tron..........INFINITE REPLAYABILITY
15:46 <Seeker> i get tired of beating the games I have.......so I always fire up tron
15:46 <DrJoeTron> ghableska
15:47 <ghableska> ok, what does the jumper look like?
15:47 <DrJoeTron> little peice of plastic
15:47 <DrJoeTron> tiny one
15:48 <Seeker> whats you player nic eddie?
15:48 <ghableska> hmm
15:48 <ghableska> how do I know if I have a jumper or battery?
15:48 <Seeker> maybe ill see ya around
15:49 <Seeker> ghableska..........you prob have both
15:49 <ghableska> ok
15:49 <ghableska> I see a circular battery...
15:49 <Seeker> yes
15:49 <Seeker> that is the cmos battery
15:49 <ghableska> should I take that out?
15:49 <Seeker> unplug the computyer from the wall, and remove that battery
15:50 <ghableska> and then?
15:50 <Seeker> withe the battery out and the plug unplugged.......press the power button
15:50 <Seeker> that should discharge any power in the system......leave the computer alone for 30 seconds
15:51 <ghableska> ok, I'm trying to get the battery out first. :p
15:51 <ghableska> grr
15:51 <Seeker> then replace the battery and the plug, and try to boot it. if that dosent work, you will need to try to find the jumper
15:53 <Seeker> to remove the battery, you need to squeeze the small retaining clip and simultainiously pry out the battery (be gentle
15:54 <DrJoeTron> i gotta run and go finish registering
15:54 <DrJoeTron> ttyl
15:54 <Seeker> see ya later joe
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15:54 <ghableska> hi MrBougo
15:54 <Seeker> brb, need coffee
15:54 <ghableska> ok, I got the battery out
15:55 <MrBougo> #ghab
15:55 <MrBougo> hiho
16:00 <ghableska> awww, it didn't work :/
16:01 <DrJoeTron> find the jumper
16:02 <DrJoeTron> you know those little plastic things in the back of your cd/hard drive whatever?
16:02 <Seeker> ok, im back........ ghab, do you get any video at all, like the video bios info, when you try to start the computer?
16:02 <ghableska> nothing
16:02 <DrJoeTron> find dat jumper mang
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16:02 <Seeker> do you have a discrete video card or integrated graphics?
16:03 <ghableska> discrete
16:03 <DrJoeTron> bbl again
16:03 <ghableska> I'm not sure if it's related, but when my computer booted up normally, it would always emit one beep before showing the manufacturer's logo, etc...
16:03 <ghableska> but now I don't hear a  beep
16:04 <Seeker> hmmmm.......have you made any changes to the system (added memory...etc...etc)?
16:05 <ghableska> nope
16:05 <Seeker> grrrrrr, do you have another computer you can trade parts with if you cant find the cmos jumper?
16:06 <ghableska> the one I'm using...but I don't think this one has the jumper either
16:06 <Seeker> i have a feeling you may have a hardware failure.............but I cant tell yet
16:07 <Seeker> in your opinion, how well do you know computer hardware?
16:07 <ghableska> er, not very well
16:07 <ghableska> but what failed? the memory or the mobo?
16:07 <Seeker> is your system a prebuilt system?
16:07 <ghableska> yes
16:08 <Seeker> what kind of computer is it? make and model
16:08 <ghableska> alienware area 51
16:08 <Seeker> nice!!!!!
16:08 <ghableska> :d
16:08 <Seeker> ok, how old is it?
16:09 <ghableska> about 2 years
16:09 <Seeker> ok, hold on
16:10 <mkzelda> #weather 27545
16:10 <armabot> mkzelda: The current temperature in Hedingham, Raleigh, North Carolina is 86.9°F (10:15 AM EDT on August 20, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 66.2°F. Pressure: 30.06 in 1017.8 hPa (Steady).
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16:13 <Seeker> have you tried to contact alienware?
16:14 <MrBougo> woa, he has an alienware
16:15 <Seeker> a dead one we are trying to get working
16:15 <MrBougo> aw
16:15 <Seeker> yea
16:15 <ghableska> yeah, but apparently my free phone support service has expired, so I have to pay for 1 year phone support
16:15 <ghableska> hehe
16:15 <ghableska> that's a last resort
16:16 <MrBougo> ack
16:16 <Seeker> ghab, do you still have the documents that came with the system?
16:16 <ghableska> like the manual?
16:16 <MrBougo> jesus, the moz servers are slow!!!
16:16 <Seeker> yea.....it should tell you how to reset the cmos
16:16 <MrBougo> any mirror for thunderbird?
16:16 <Seeker> lol....i just let it dl bougo
16:17 <ghableska> ok, and in the troubleshooting section, it said "Computer will not POST"; is that the problem I'm having?
16:17 <Seeker> its always slow
16:17 <Seeker> yes ghab
16:17 <MrBougo> its ok
16:17 <Seeker> that is what we are workin on now
16:17 <MrBougo> 2 monutes remainin'
16:17 <MrBougo> minutes
16:17 <MrBougo> i switched from a "comfort curve" keyboard to a regular one
16:17 <MrBougo> thats crazt
16:17 <ghableska> hmm
16:18 <MrBougo> i make lots of typos
16:18 <MrBougo> more than usuely
16:18 <Seeker> dialup sux huh????? lol
16:18 <MrBougo> IT DOZ
16:18 <MrBougo> but it aint dialup
16:18 <MrBougo> thats belgian dsl
16:18 <ghableska> it doesn't say anything about how to reset the cmos
16:18 <ghableska> should I check my mobo's manufacturer's website?
16:18 <Seeker> any luck with that manual ghab
16:18 <ghableska> nah
16:19 <MrBougo> theres a jumper
16:19 <Seeker> what kind of mobo is it/
16:19 <MrBougo> "clear cmos"
16:19 <MrBougo> its written somwehere
16:19 <Seeker> thats what were lookin for
16:19 <Seeker> hes not super tech savy
16:19 <ghableska> Asus p5ND2-SLI
16:19 <MrBougo> aw
16:19 <MrBougo> thats your motherboard?
16:20 <Seeker> so we are goin step by step
16:20 <ghableska> yeah
16:20 <ghableska> why?
16:20 <MrBougo> http://www.bgslevi.cz/image/AsusP5ND2SLIdeluxe.jpg
16:20 <Seeker> basic or delux
16:20 <MrBougo> here's a "city map"
16:20 <Seeker> im lookin on alienwares site now too
16:20 <ghableska> hmm
16:21 <ghableska> I'm not sure if it's basic or deluxe
16:21 <ghableska> the writing on the mobo doesn't say
16:21 <ghableska> hmm, it's actually ASUS P5ND2-SLI NFORCE4 MB
16:21 <ghableska> not sure if that helps...
16:21 <Seeker> clrtc
16:22 <ghableska> ok, it's deluxe
16:22 <Seeker> switch that jumper and try to reboot
16:22 <ghableska> first I need to find it, heh
16:22 <Seeker> just below the battery
16:22 <ghableska> ok
16:22 <Seeker> above the sata ports
16:23 <ghableska> wait
16:23 <ghableska> CLRTC?
16:23 <Seeker> 2 sets of jumpers there........yes the top one
16:23 <ghableska> ok, so I move that down one pin?
16:23 <ghableska> er, the left jumper or right one?
16:23 <Seeker> over one pin....yes
16:23 <Seeker> yes
16:24 <MrBougo> Seeker: where'd you find that info?
16:24 <MrBougo> do you have the same MB? :p
16:24 <Seeker> no, im looking at the pic you gave the link too
16:24 <Seeker> ;)
16:24 <MrBougo> eek
16:24 <Seeker> im a hardware freak
16:25 <ghableska> ok, now what?
16:25 <MrBougo> what does clrtc mean oO
16:25 <Seeker> with the jumper moved.....try to reboot the computer
16:25 <ghableska> is it ok to leave the case open?
16:25 <GodTodd> hell yes :)
16:25 <Seeker> just a guess CLRTC~ Clear The CMOS
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16:26 <Seeker> yea
16:26 <ghableska> ok
16:26 <luke-jr_work> err
16:26 <luke-jr_work> don't  boot the PC that way!
16:26  * GodTodd always runs with an open case when working on shit
16:26 <luke-jr_work> you move it when it's OFF
16:26 <Seeker> yes, it will clear the settings
16:26 <luke-jr_work> and put it back before you turn it on
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16:26 <Seeker> then you turn it off again and replace the jumper
16:26 <MrBougo> oh
16:26 <Seeker> and turn it back on
16:26 <luke-jr_work> Seeker: you never turn it on like that
16:27 <MrBougo> so the jumper "cuts" the power
16:27 <MrBougo> to the cmos
16:27 <ghableska> how long do I leave it on?
16:27 <luke-jr_work> ghableska: you don't turn it on
16:27 <luke-jr_work> who knows what chaos will ensue
16:27 <MrBougo> lol
16:28  * luke-jr_work smacks Seeker for bad advice
16:28 <MrBougo> smack?
16:28 <MrBougo> slap you mean
16:28 <luke-jr_work> both
16:28 <MrBougo> hehe
16:28 <ghableska> ok, I replaced the jumper
16:28 <luke-jr_work> and drop a 10 ton box of UNIX manuals on him
16:29 <luke-jr_work> ghableska: hope your computer still works
16:29 <MrBougo> wth
16:29 <MrBougo> it didnt work before, luke
16:29 <luke-jr_work> lol
16:29 <luke-jr_work> well, presumably that was a different problem
16:29 <MrBougo> lawl
16:31 <Seeker> hold tight
16:31  * eddiefantastic is confused. why is it so bad to clear the cmos?
16:32 <Seeker> its not
16:32 <eddiefantastic> that's what I thought, but luke here disagrees
16:33 <ghableska> ok, that didn't work
16:33 <eddiefantastic> gnab, you get nothing at all, right?
16:33 <ghableska> correct
16:34 <eddiefantastic> do the fans whirr, etc?
16:34 <ghableska> yeah
16:34 <ghableska> but nothing appears onscreen
16:34 <ghableska> and my computer always beeps once before it boots
16:34 <GodTodd> it's supposed to
16:34 <GodTodd> that's the post
16:34 <GodTodd> beep means "everything's ok"
16:34 <ghableska> now it doesn't beep :p
16:34 <eddiefantastic> maybe it's the graphics card
16:35 <GodTodd> it could be bad ram too
16:35 <luke-jr_work> eddiefantastic: it's not, but it's bad to turn the PC on while it's in reset-mode
16:35 <eddiefantastic> can you turn the caps lock light on and off with the caps lock button?
16:35 <ghableska> hmm, lemme check
16:35 <eddiefantastic> bad ram should give you a different post beep code
16:36 <Seeker> did you put the jumper back?
16:36 <eddiefantastic> if it's that bad
16:36 <GodTodd> basically, ghableska, usually not posting means that some hardware somewhere has failed
16:36 <ghableska> Seeker yes
16:36 <GodTodd> eddiefantastic: i've had many times it gave no post
16:36 <ghableska> back in its original position
16:36 <Seeker> ok
16:36 <ghableska> should I bother with the caps lock test?
16:37 <Seeker> luke, turning on a computer in reste mode does nothing
16:37 <luke-jr_work> Seeker: on some motherboards
16:37 <luke-jr_work> you're not supposed to-- some might do nothing, others might fry
16:38 <luke-jr_work> if ghableska's just stopped beeping now, that's probably why
16:38 <ghableska> no, luke-jr_work, it stopped beeping after it stopped working
16:38 <Seeker> i have never seen one fry, or heard of one frying from that.....and i have used some really shitty boards
16:38 <ghableska> it's been like this for several days
16:39 <luke-jr_work> Seeker: good for you, but there's absolutely no reason to take that risk
16:39 <luke-jr_work> ghableska: what changed?
16:39  * GodTodd personally would start by unplugging everything from the mobo except the bare necessities and see if it posts
16:39 <Seeker> i am pretty sure you have a hardware failure, but since your using you other computer, its kinda hard to help you test syuff out
16:40 <ghableska> luke-jr_work: what do you mean?
16:40 <MrBougo> bye
16:40 <luke-jr_work> GodTodd: that might work, but with more and more being builtin the mobo, it's not overly likely now IIRC
16:40 <Seeker> same ? i asked already
16:40 <luke-jr_work> ghableska: what changed since it last worked?
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16:40 <Seeker> nothing
16:40 <Seeker> just died on him
16:40 <ghableska> yeah
16:41 <luke-jr_work> ghableska: onboard video?
16:41 <Seeker> no...discrete
16:41 <ghableska> eddiefantastic: I can't turn on the caps lock light
16:41 <ghableska> nor numlock
16:41 <luke-jr_work> ok, well give GodTodd's idea a shot
16:41 <luke-jr_work> unplug everything except power
16:41  * GodTodd bows to luke-jr_work's superior knowledge...wtf do i know anyway, i just have been tearing down and rebuilding computers for 20 years and have a degree in it
16:41 <luke-jr_work> and CPU fan obviously
16:41 <Seeker> its an alienware area 51
16:42 <Seeker> not a bad system
16:42 <luke-jr_work> GodTodd: things change in 20 years
16:42 <GodTodd> for 20 years and currently you fucking moron
16:42 <luke-jr_work> :)
16:43 <GodTodd> and, no, posting errors have not really changed in 20 years
16:45 <ghableska> maybe my power supply has gone screwy?
16:45 <GodTodd> doubt it
16:46 <Seeker> dont doubt it.............you wont know unless you test it.
16:46 <GodTodd> doubt it means that it could be but is less likely than something else :P
16:46 <Seeker> i have had 4 bad power supplies in the last year.
16:46 <ghableska> :o
16:46 <luke-jr_work> GodTodd: I wasn't aware EFI even had POST
16:47 <ghableska> it's a SilverStone PSU...
16:47 <Seeker> where did you get efi from....this is a nf4 board
16:47 <luke-jr_work> Seeker: I am talking in general :)
16:47 <Seeker> its still bios
16:47 <GodTodd> luke-jr_work: show me a mobo that doesn't have some sort of post
16:47 <luke-jr_work> GodTodd: EFI mobos do?
16:47 <Seeker> i have never seen efi so i couldnt tell ya
16:48 <GodTodd> it's basic computers...it has to test itself after power is applied...hence Power On-Self Test
16:48 <Seeker> and I would think they would keep a feature like POWER ON SELF TEST
16:48 <luke-jr_work> except POST is a specific kind of testing procedure
16:49 <Seeker> no, post is the acronym for a power on self test, not all posts are the same, or do things ion the same order
16:49 <luke-jr_work> SMTP is the acronym for a simple mail transport protocol-- does that mean I can make a new SMTP protocol?!?!
16:49 <GodTodd> ah well...i'll defer to luke-jr_work...i would try and help but obviously know nothing...i'll let the real expert handle it...not like i've ever been paid for my computer hardware knowledge.....
16:49 <Seeker> they all check he same things though
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16:50 <Seeker> agreed todd
16:50 <Seeker> all his now.....i have work to do anywayt
16:50 <Seeker> good luck guys...
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16:51  * GodTodd waits and watches to see how luke-jr_work fixes ghableska's computer.
16:51 <ghableska> btw, what's the little button next to the power button?
16:53 <GodTodd> there's usually a power and reset....if the button you're talking about looks kinda like the power button
16:53 <ghableska> yeah
16:56 <GodTodd> basic computer maintenance teaches that in this sort of situation, you take the computer to bare bones and see if it works as expected...if so then you start plugging your crap back in one thing at a time...test after each thing...once you have a failed test the last thing you plugged in is the problem
16:58 <GodTodd> but, then, you might want to check with luke-jr_work because i could be (and probably am) wrong
16:58 <ghableska> er
17:03 <ghableska> wow, the forums were just hit with a massive spam attack
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17:59 <ghableska> #tea
17:59 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: No online players.
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18:20 <ghableska> wb Seeker
18:21 <Seeker> did you guys figure anything out?
18:22 <ghableska> well, todd suggested plugging things back in one by one
18:22 <ghableska> I haven't done that yet :p
18:25 <Seeker> brb
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18:26 <Seeker> installed a new skin for trillian
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18:38 <mkzelda> wooo im done w/ house arrest
18:38 <mkzelda> just cut off the bracelet
18:39  * Seeker hates work!!!
18:40 <DrJoeTron> oh hai
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18:44 <Lucifer_arma> work hates seeker :)
18:44 <Seeker> yea....i know
18:45 <Seeker> its trying to kill me
18:45 <Lucifer_arma> well, I just got my kids all creeped out showing them spiders and shit
18:45 <Seeker> lol
18:45 <Seeker> luci....u still in texas?
18:45 <Lucifer_arma> we started with "this is the spider I saw in the garage last night" and ended with the biggest spiders in the world
18:45 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, still in texas
18:45 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: you showed them spidey?
18:46  * Seeker is arachniphobic
18:47 <Lucifer_arma> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goliath_birdeater
18:47 <Seeker> yea, thats a big damn spider
18:48 <Lucifer_arma> anything big enough to wear a dog collar is big enough to put on the barbecue grill
18:48 <Seeker> lol
18:50 <Lucifer_arma> hmm, I'm a grab another smoke and then feed the herd
18:50 <Lucifer_arma> then I've got one more particularly important todo before school starts, and I've got to work today
18:50 <Seeker> how many kids you got?
18:53 <DrJoeTron> 37
18:54 <Seeker> ?!?!?!?!?!? not all yours i hope!!!!
18:54  * Seeker thinks doc needs birth control!!!
18:55 <GodTodd> ugly is the best birth control
18:56 <GodTodd> er wait...that doesn't work... luke-jr has kids...
18:56 <Seeker> thats why I stopped at 2........
19:06 <luke-jr> birth control is evil
19:07 <GodTodd> therefore ugly is evil
19:07 <GodTodd> therefore luke-jr will go to hell :)
19:07  * Seeker is evil
19:10  * GodTodd is evilerer
19:12 <Seeker> ok....question...........and yes this is the first time i have used IRC (never had the need), are there any commands like slaping people for stupidity?
19:13 <GodTodd> #list alias
19:14 <armabot> GodTodd: monologue, roulette, \:o, add, afl, armabot, armaconfig, armaservers, armasettings, babel, ball, bigbrother, bounce, bug, bye, cat, cfg, chatlog, check, cinf, cink, crazylate, ctwf, dance, date, davestupidwebsite"rss, ddl, delire, die, die, digg, digitx, ding, do, dog, dong, eliza, eroulette, f, fastfood, finc, fink, fofo, fortune, g, gcalc, gfight, go, goodbye, hd, hell, hello, hey, hoop, (2 more messages)
19:14 <GodTodd> #more
19:14 <armabot> GodTodd: hungary, hyphy, impregnate, insight, ircstats, joke, kill, killsomeone, kinc, kinf, laddle10, lastseen, legit, lock, log, log, luke, lukejrwork, m, man, mcalc, mfaq, monologue, morning, move, murder, nano, night, null, onlineplayers, onlineservers, pacman, peek, pingme, piong, poing, powiedz, praise, pwn, q, realchatlogs, remove, res, resources, rou, roulette, roulette, roulete, rules, (1 more message)
19:14 <GodTodd> #more
19:14 <armabot> GodTodd: r‭oulette, sd, serverdetails, serverinfo, slap, speed, stfu, stone, sty, svn, t, tea, team, tst4, tst5, tstservers, tyskie, uname, unlock, ur, w, weather, where, whereis4p, whereisp4, where are the noobs ?, whoareyou, whoisp4, wikipedia, wild, wp, ww, ¡¡¡, and ‭
19:14 <GodTodd> #help slap
19:14 <armabot> GodTodd: (slap <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo $randomnick slaps $*.".
19:14 <GodTodd> #slap
19:14 <armabot> luke-jr_work slaps .
19:15 <GodTodd> hrmm
19:15 <Seeker> ???
19:15 <Seeker> ok
19:15 <GodTodd> #alias add slap echo $who slaps $1.
19:15 <armabot> GodTodd: The operation succeeded.
19:15 <GodTodd> #slap luke-jr
19:15 <armabot> GodTodd slaps luke-jr.
19:15 <GodTodd> now there is :)
19:15 <Seeker> lol
19:16 <GodTodd> or even better...
19:16 <GodTodd> #alias add slap echo $who slaps $1 for being a raving moron.
19:16 <armabot> GodTodd: The operation succeeded.
19:16 <GodTodd> #slap luke-jr
19:16 <armabot> GodTodd slaps luke-jr for being a raving moron.
19:16 <Seeker> lol
19:16 <Seeker> that works
19:16 <GodTodd> :)
19:17 <GodTodd> #slap ghableska
19:17 <armabot> GodTodd slaps ghableska for being a raving moron.
19:17 <Seeker> wtf....i saw impregnate in that list!!!!
19:17 <GodTodd> yeah
19:17 <Seeker> lol
19:17 <GodTodd> #impregnate luke-jr
19:17 <armabot> /me fertilizes luke-jr
19:17 <Seeker> scary
19:17 <ghableska> #kill GodTodd
19:17 <armabot> GodTodd will die on 08:03 PM, July 06, 2007 GMT due to being stabbed in the eye by ghableska
19:18 <ghableska> #crazylate [slap luke-jr]
19:18 <GodTodd> #luke
19:18 <armabot> stfu baka noob?? RTFM or smth
19:18 <armabot> ghableska: Couldn't talk to server: [Errno socket error] timed out
19:18 <ghableska> eh
19:18 <Seeker> lol
19:18 <Seeker> #denied ghableska
19:19 <ghableska> #crazylate stfu baka noob?? RTFM or smth
19:19 <Seeker> lol
19:19 <armabot> ghableska: noob of baka of stfu? RTFM or smth
19:19 <ghableska> #crazylate [kill luke-jr]
19:19 <armabot> ghableska: Error: Couldn't talk to server: [Errno socket error] timed out
19:19 <ghableska> grrrr
19:19 <GodTodd> #crazylate GodTodd will die on 08:03 PM, July 06, 2007 GMT due to being stabbed in the eye by ghableska
19:19 <armabot> GodTodd: GodTodd will die in 08:03 P.M., of July the 06 of GMT 2007 due to being stabbed in the eye by ghableska
19:20 <Seeker> #murder
19:20 <armabot> Seeker: (murder <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "echo $1 will get murdered by $randomNick on $randomDate because $1 tried to kill one of DrJoeTron's Badmins".
19:20 <GodTodd> haha
19:20 <GodTodd> #murder ghableska
19:20 <armabot> ghableska will get murdered by digitx on Fri Aug 21 08:49:58 1992 because ghableska tried to kill one of DrJoeTron's Badmins
19:20 <ghableska> o_O
19:20 <Seeker> lol
19:20 <GodTodd> #joke
19:20 <armabot> By royal decree, all humor has hereby been expunged from this channel. If you feel you absolutely *have* to be funny please find a channel where people are able to understand jokes.
19:21 <ghableska> #roulette
19:21 <armabot> ghableska: *click*
19:21 <GodTodd> i need to put the joke one on my bot...
19:22 <GodTodd> da we go :)
19:22 <GodTodd> i need to re-find my sports score rss feeds :/
19:23 <Seeker> #weather
19:23 <armabot> Seeker: (weather <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city.
19:24 <Seeker> #weather 21061
19:24 <armabot> Seeker: The current temperature in Baltimore, Maryland is 68.0°F (12:54 PM EDT on August 20, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 60.8°F. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Falling).
19:24 <ghableska> #weather 50265
19:24 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
19:24 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 78.8°F (11:54 AM CDT on August 20, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 69.8°F. Pressure: 29.85 in 1011 hPa (Rising).  Flash Flood Watch in effect through Wednesday afternoon...
19:24 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Near Custer and Parker, Plano, Texas is 90.5°F (12:29 PM CDT on August 20, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 66.2°F. Pressure: 31.01 in 1050.0 hPa (Steady).
19:24 <Seeker> hot in TX
19:24 <GodTodd> pretty cool today so far
19:24 <Seeker> lol
19:24 <ghableska> lies
19:25 <Seeker> anything over 70 sux to me
19:25 <GodTodd> last week we were hitting 104
19:25 <Seeker> i like the cold
19:25 <Seeker> ewwww
19:25 <Seeker> #fastfood
19:25 <armabot> Seeker: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “bugfarm” at the moment, sorry.
19:26 <Seeker> im getting some lunch.....bbl
19:26 <GodTodd> have fun :)
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19:32 <MrBougo> #echo
19:32 <armabot> MrBougo: (echo <text>) -- Returns the arguments given it. Uses our standard substitute on the string(s) given to it; $nick (or $who), $randomNick, $randomInt, $botnick, $channel, $user, $host, $today, $now, and $randomDate are all handled appropriately.
19:32 <MrBougo> #echo
19:32 <armabot> MrBougo: (echo <text>) -- Returns the arguments given it. Uses our standard substitute on the string(s) given to it; $nick (or $who), $randomNick, $randomInt, $botnick, $channel, $user, $host, $today, $now, and $randomDate are all handled appropriately.
19:32 <MrBougo> #echo
19:32 <armabot> MrBougo: (echo <text>) -- Returns the arguments given it. Uses our standard substitute on the string(s) given to it; $nick (or $who), $randomNick, $randomInt, $botnick, $channel, $user, $host, $today, $now, and $randomDate are all handled appropriately.
19:33 <MrBougo> #echo
19:33 <armabot> MrBougo: (echo <text>) -- Returns the arguments given it. Uses our standard substitute on the string(s) given to it; $nick (or $who), $randomNick, $randomInt, $botnick, $channel, $user, $host, $today, $now, and $randomDate are all handled appropriately.
19:35 <luke-jr> #murder MrBougo
19:35 <armabot> MrBougo will get murdered by wejp on Sun Jul 25 11:28:20 2010 because MrBougo tried to kill one of DrJoeTron's Badmins
19:35 <MrBougo> :(
19:35 <MrBougo> #help murder
19:35 <armabot> MrBougo: (murder <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "echo $1 will get murdered by $randomNick on $randomDate because $1 tried to kill one of DrJoeTron's Badmins".
19:35 <MrBougo> whats a badmin...
19:35 <luke-jr> bad admin?
19:36 <MrBougo> :(
19:36 <MrBougo> badminton :(
19:48 <Lucifer_arma> Seeker: the ingame commands for arma come from irc
19:48  * Lucifer_arma *
19:48 <luke-jr> MrBougo: you basshole
19:48 <MrBougo> :(
19:48 <Lucifer_arma> so, /me, /msg, etc
19:48 <MrBougo> /admin
19:48 <Seeker> thx....
19:48 <Lucifer_arma> who let the emo kid in here?
19:48 <Lucifer_arma> MrBougo: quit frowning, somebody will find out you're emo!
19:48 <MrBougo> :DDDDD
19:49 <MrBougo> now that wasnt emo
19:49 <Seeker> #murder luke-jr
19:49 <armabot> luke-jr will get murdered by MrBougo on Tue Oct 24 00:14:34 1995 because luke-jr tried to kill one of DrJoeTron's Badmins
19:49 <MrBougo> HAHA
19:49 <MrBougo> pwned
19:49 <MrBougo> ive murdered you when i was 5
19:49 <Seeker> lol....12 years ago
19:52 <GodTodd> shit...i was out of high school by then
19:52 <GodTodd> heh
19:53 <Seeker> senior yera for me
19:53 <Lucifer_arma> my favorite thing to do with my daughter right now is to sing that space cowboy song at her, but I change the words
19:53 <Lucifer_arma> I say "Some people call her the space cowboy" and go from there
19:53 <Seeker> cow girl luci.......
19:53 <GodTodd> yeah...should be cowgirl
19:54 <Lucifer_arma> nah, I only change the pronoun
19:54 <Lucifer_arma> some people call her Maurice!
19:54 <Seeker> lol
19:54 <Lucifer_arma> she hates it, but she laughs when I do it
19:54 <Seeker> are people confused by your dauf=ghter???
19:55 <Lucifer_arma> ?  why would she confuse people?
19:55 <luke-jr> #alias add murder echo $1 will get murdered by $randomNick on $randomDate because $1 tried to kill one of $randomNick's $randomNicks
19:55 <armabot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
19:55 <luke-jr> #murder Lucifer_arma
19:55 <armabot> Lucifer_arma will get murdered by noob13 on Tue Sep 11 09:15:24 1984 because Lucifer_arma tried to kill one of BedMan's $randomNicks
19:55 <Seeker> oh.......your just confused
19:55 <GodTodd> you know what i just realized? most of the people in here don't remember when there was a berlin wall :/
19:55 <MrBougo> accumulation bucket gob coagulation half-mouthful heap mass mound petrification pile puddle stack thimbleful tongueful ooze quart bag plate
19:55 <luke-jr> #alias add murder echo $1 will get murdered by $randomNick on $randomDate because $1 tried to kill one of $randomNick's $randomNick-s
19:55 <luke-jr> #murder Lucifer_arma
19:55 <armabot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
19:55 <armabot> Lucifer_arma will get murdered by tronner on Sun Aug 15 08:43:02 2010 because Lucifer_arma tried to kill one of guru3's wejp-s
19:55 <MrBougo> http://supybot.sourceforge.net/docs/plugins/Insult.html
19:55 <MrBougo> xD
19:55 <Lucifer_arma> she has a real gift for figuring out people's self-esteem weaknesses, and she's very good at attacking them
19:56 <Lucifer_arma> she's daddy's little girl, alright!
19:56 <Seeker> lol
19:56 <Lucifer_arma> speaking of people with weak self-esteems, hey luke-jr (hi there!) , talk to Jesus lately?
19:57 <Lucifer_arma> I guess I better eat something too
19:57  * GodTodd pulls out his dick.
19:57 <MrBougo> oO
19:58  * Lucifer_arma gets a hotdog bun
19:58  * Seeker places duct tape over all open orifices
19:58 <GodTodd> hoagie bun*
19:58 <GodTodd> :)
19:58 <Lucifer_arma> oh right, I forgot, use hoagie buns for slim meats
19:58 <GodTodd> haha
19:58 <Lucifer_arma> deli-sliced?
19:58 <Seeker> ouch
19:58 <GodTodd> it may be slim but it's damn short :P
19:59 <Lucifer_arma> I think I'll have something penis-shaped anyway, but it's called a flauta
19:59 <Seeker> a what?
19:59 <Lucifer_arma> a flauta
19:59 <GodTodd> yep...he's a yankee
19:59 <GodTodd> :)
19:59 <Seeker> nvm
19:59 <Lucifer_arma> have you ever noticed that the skinnier the girls are in a given culture, the more penis-shaped foods they have?
20:00 <GodTodd> so....how many penis shaped foods are in ethiopian culture?
20:00 <Seeker> no....im just not a big mexican food guy
20:01 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: you have to assume an abundance of food, and also try to remember that ethiopia isn't in as bad a shape as it was when we were kids
20:01 <GodTodd> i know
20:01  * GodTodd gets out his cane.
20:01 <Seeker> now they arent starving...they just have guns
20:01 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, I think the number of penis-shaped women in a given culture is directly proportional to the number of penis-shaped foods in that culture
20:02 <GodTodd> haha
20:02 <Seeker> lol
20:02 <Lucifer_arma> Seeker: flauta is a shredded meat with some spicy sauce or other wrapped in a flour tortilla and deep-fried
20:02 <Seeker> i saw
20:02 <GodTodd> apply for an FDA research grant and we'll do that study :)
20:03 <Seeker> i know what a taquito <SP?> didnt know about that thing though
20:04 <GodTodd> a flauta is a big taquito with flour tortilla instead of corn
20:04 <Seeker> bingo
20:04 <Seeker> i found it
20:05  * GodTodd made chicken enchiladas last night.
20:05  * Seeker made sausage, peppers & onions lase night
20:06 <Seeker> i cant type to save my life
20:06 <Seeker> lol
20:06 <GodTodd> i would make that more often...but my wife makes me sleep in the living room then :/
20:06  * Lucifer_arma made green chile hamburgers last night
20:06  * Lucifer_arma made barbecue ribs the night before
20:06 <Seeker> mmmm
20:06  * Lucifer_arma made fried chicken the night before
20:06 <Lucifer_arma> y'all yanks don't know what eating is all about
20:07 <Lucifer_arma> that's why you have so many penis-shaped women
20:07 <Seeker> im from south carolina originally
20:07 <P4> how did tronner join with ban set? :)
20:07 <GodTodd> i made ribs the other day
20:07 <Seeker> im broke and cant afford ribs
20:07 <GodTodd> and baked chicken a few days ago
20:07 <GodTodd> ribs is cheapo here
20:07 <GodTodd> 99 cents to 1.29 a lb
20:07 <P4> .part
20:07 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, they are :)
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20:07 <GodTodd> depends on the day and store
20:07 <Lucifer_arma> beef ribs in particular, but we usually do babyback ribs
20:08 <GodTodd> i do country style pork
20:08  * MrBougo made a sanwish on thursday
20:08 <Seeker> tell yall what, Ill put a post on the forum about the present situation with my 2 year old son
20:08 <MrBougo> sandwish
20:08 <MrBougo> nothing very yummy
20:08 <Seeker> he has an uber rare desease
20:08 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmmm
20:08 <Lucifer_arma> uber rare disease?
20:08 <Seeker> and we are really hurtin
20:09 <Seeker> hold on, Ill get you a link
20:09 <Lucifer_arma> :)  go get food stamps, that's why we can afford babyback ribs...
20:09 <MrBougo> crap
20:09 <MrBougo> i read "hold on, Ill get you a milk"
20:09 <Lucifer_arma> and yes, if you have really high medical expenses, you can qualify for food stamps and other government assistance even if you make $100k/year
20:10 <MrBougo> lol!
20:10 <Lucifer_arma> do "income - medical expenses", and if the answer qualifies for government assistance, go get it :)
20:10 <Seeker> we are in the process of getting things squared up now
20:10 <Lucifer_arma> good, whenever you're ready, I'll send you the recipe for the marinade I use on my ribs :)
20:10 <GodTodd> holding out on me? :P
20:11 <Lucifer_arma> haha
20:11 <Lucifer_arma> didn't I give it to you already?  ;)
20:11 <Lucifer_arma> ah hell, here ya go, it's pretty simple, really
20:11 <GodTodd> not that i know of
20:12 <Lucifer_arma> ok, 2 garlic cloves, 2 slices of fresh ginger root
20:12 <Seeker> well, I cant find the damn link, but the name of the enzyme is "3 hydroxyisobutyric dehydrogenase"
20:12 <Lucifer_arma> mince those and put 'em in a bowl
20:13 <Lucifer_arma> then put in 1 cup stock (usually chicken bullion cubes + water), 1/4 cup soy sauce, 1 tablespoon sugar, and 2 tablespoons sherry
20:13 <Lucifer_arma> that's pretty much it
20:13 <Seeker> it controlls the breakdown of the amino acid valiene, there are only 12 other cases reported around the world to date
20:13 <Lucifer_arma> you can chop up a green onion and toss it in there too, if you like
20:14 <Lucifer_arma> marinate overnight, works best on pork ribs, but works very nicely on beef ribs
20:14 <Lucifer_arma> you really need the green onions to use it on chicken
20:14 <Lucifer_arma> for a whole rack like what you buy at costco, you need to double the recipe
20:14 <Lucifer_arma> when you throw it on the grill, keep the leftover marinade and apply it like a regular barbecue sauce
20:14 <Lucifer_arma> and don't overcook the ribs, they will still dry out if you're not careful :)
20:15 <Lucifer_arma> and if worse comes to worst, you can toss 'em in the oven
20:15 <GodTodd> yeah...i need a good grill
20:15 <GodTodd> the one i have sucks :/
20:15 <MrBougo> bye
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20:16 <Lucifer_arma> holy shit, your kid's a clone!  Looks like this is one of the enzymes clones tend to be a little short on
20:16 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: this marinade works fine on my crappy-ass grill
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20:16 <Seeker> ????
20:17 <GodTodd> hmmm...i'll have to try it...
20:17 <Seeker> how many clones do you have
20:17  * Lucifer_arma is considering taking some small portion of his financial aid check and getting a cheap-ass smoker
20:17 <Seeker> build a smoker
20:17 <Seeker> box for your grill
20:17 <Lucifer_arma> you want me to get my kids to smoke?
20:17 <Seeker> lol
20:17 <Seeker> nah...they will do that on their own
20:17 <Lucifer_arma> I've considered building a smoker, but the scraps just aren't available to do it
20:18 <Lucifer_arma> and it's not worth it if I can't do it using scraps
20:18 <Seeker> tru
20:18 <Lucifer_arma> now, someday when I own a house on the moon, sure, I'll build my own custom smoker then
20:18 <Lucifer_arma> but that day is not today!
20:19 <Lucifer_arma> Methylmalonic semialdehyde dehydrogenase deficiency  <--- is that it?
20:20 <Seeker> no, "3-Hydroxyisobutyric aciduria" is the name of the desease
20:21 -!- P4 is now known as P4|away
20:21 <Lucifer_arma> http://lib.bioinfo.pl/auth:Loupatty,FJ
20:21 <Lucifer_arma> you could have just google it, google knows about it :)
20:21 <Seeker> i am
20:22 <Lucifer_arma> ah, that link I gave is worthless
20:22 <Seeker> yea
20:22 <Seeker> i know
20:22 <Seeker> i had that one
20:23 <Seeker> http://rarediseases.info.nih.gov/asp/diseases/diseaseinfo.asp?ID=5662    try that one
20:24 <Lucifer_arma> hey, that's the page in the tab I just accidentally closed, thanks :)
20:25 <Seeker> lol
20:25 <Seeker> and your first link was a fair overview of everything we actually know about the desease
20:26 <Seeker> actually to read the pertaining article http://lib.bioinfo.pl/pmid:16466957
20:28 <Seeker> anyway....ill do a little writeup for the forums later tonight. there really isnt much known at this time.
20:29 <Lucifer_arma> so basically, to summarize:
20:29 <Seeker> no cure....
20:29 <Lucifer_arma> it's genetic.  It affects his development, but nobody knows exactly why.  It may be life-threatening, but nobody knows eactly why.
20:29 <Seeker> wide range of effects
20:29 <Seeker> yup
20:29 <Lucifer_arma> there's this one thing that seems most likely cause, but is it too much in the body, or too little?
20:29 <Lucifer_arma> and that's it, looks like
20:30 <Lucifer_arma> they've got a lot of questions to which the answer is "no"
20:30 <Seeker> yea
20:30 <Seeker> we are soooo frustrated
20:30 <Seeker> we are waiting to hear back from a geneticist in the netherlands
20:30 <Lucifer_arma> just try to take comfort from the fact that without periodic mutations, evolution wouldn't work :)
20:31 <Seeker> lol
20:31 <Lucifer_arma> your kid could be the Next Big Thing :)
20:31 <Seeker> soo true
20:31 <Lucifer_arma> you never know, when he hits puberty he could start spitting ice out of his fingers
20:31 <Seeker> lol
20:32 <Seeker> alright luci....i gotta get SOME work done today
20:32 <Lucifer_arma> ko, me too, actually
20:32 <Seeker> go play with the kids
20:32 <Lucifer_arma> I'm supposed to setup a printer right now
20:32 <Seeker> ok .......thats 30 seconds of your day
20:32 <Seeker> ;)
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20:42 <Lucifer_arma> heh, not quite :)
20:43 <Lucifer_arma> I have to get my laptop to connect to it, and then I have to restrict usage so my kids don't use up all the printer paper the night before I have a paper due
20:43 <Lucifer_arma> because printer paper at 3am is damned expensive!
20:43 <Seeker> lol
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20:54 <GodTodd> is not :P walmart is open :)
20:54 <mkzelda> woooooooooooooooooooooo
20:54 <mkzelda> #weather 27545
20:54 <Lucifer_bed> grrrr
20:54 <Lucifer_bed> this is supposed to be the easy part of setting up the printer :(
20:54 <armabot> mkzelda: The current temperature in Hedingham, Raleigh, North Carolina is 97.7°F (2:59 PM EDT on August 20, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 31%. Dew Point: 62.6°F. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Falling).
20:54 <Lucifer_bed> cooling off finally?
20:54 <Lucifer_bed> #weather 78717
20:54 <armabot> Lucifer_bed: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 90.3°F (1:55 PM CDT on August 20, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 69.8°F. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011.1 hPa (Falling).
20:54 <mkzelda> yeah it feels cool compared to what its been
20:54 <Seeker> #weather 21060
20:55 <armabot> Seeker: The current temperature in Baltimore, Maryland is 69.8°F (2:54 PM EDT on August 20, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 60.8°F. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
20:55 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
20:55 <mkzelda> wow
20:55 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Near Custer and Parker, Plano, Texas is 93.7°F (1:59 PM CDT on August 20, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 68.0°F. Pressure: 31.01 in 1050.0 hPa (Rising).
20:55 <Lucifer_bed> pretty chilly, seeker
20:55 <Seeker> nice
20:55 <Lucifer_bed> why are we still cooler than plano?  :/
20:55 <Seeker> i hate the heat
20:55 <mkzelda> its 6 degrees cooler than its been, ill take it
20:55 <mkzelda> the heat index of 115 was absurd
20:55 <GodTodd> austin is supposed to be a good 5 degrees warmer at least :/
20:56 <mkzelda> smells like gasoline everywhere, ppls gas tanks have been swelling too much from heat and leaking
20:56 <Lucifer_bed> looks like Dean isn't even aiming near texas anymore
20:56 <GodTodd> bah...need to make another fucking metallica cd for the boy
20:56 <GodTodd> :/
20:56 <Lucifer_bed> but they're expecting it to reach cat 5 before it hits the mayas
20:56  * Seeker is waiting for that pretty explosion from the swollen gastanks in texas
20:56 <Lucifer_bed> GodTodd: make one using my metallica collection :)
20:56 <mkzelda> im done with house arrest today
20:56 <Lucifer_bed> (it's all covers)
20:56 <mkzelda> just turned in the equipment
20:57 <GodTodd> haha
20:57 <Lucifer_bed> really?  so you can finally go outside again?
20:57 <mkzelda> im on probation still until sept 19 but my P.O. says i wont see him again, im done
20:57 <Lucifer_bed> I'll bet you're so white now, people have to wear shades to eat dinner with you
20:57 <mkzelda> yea
20:57 <Seeker> lol
20:57 <mkzelda> pretty much
20:57 <Lucifer_bed> well, long as you don't violate probation :)
20:57 <mkzelda> im using to working at pools every summer
20:57 <mkzelda> so this is whitest ive ever been
20:57 <Lucifer_bed> man, go get a tan or something
20:57 <Lucifer_bed> how the hell can this be the day your house arrest ends and you're *here*?
20:57 <Seeker> 8-)
20:58 <Lucifer_bed> go play in the park or something
20:58 <mkzelda> i just got back from spending all day in the heat
20:58 <mkzelda> heh
20:58 <mkzelda> i took my dogs to the park
20:58 <mkzelda> im ready to sleep actually, i was like a kid on xmas eve last night
20:58 <mkzelda> woke up at midnight and was too excited to sleep
20:58 <Lucifer_bed> haha
20:58 <mkzelda> went back to bed at 2:30, woke up again at 7 too excited
20:58 <Seeker> they make pills for that
20:59 <Lucifer_bed> nah, that wasn't it, the truth is you couldn't sleep without the bracelet on
20:59 <mkzelda> i still had it on then
20:59 <Lucifer_bed> oh yeah?
20:59 <mkzelda> but sleeping will be so much better
20:59 <mkzelda> and sex too
20:59 <Seeker> #smack lucifer_bed
20:59 <mkzelda> trying not to clobber my wifey's face w/ that bulky watch was a task
20:59 <Lucifer_bed> yeah, now she's going to have to actually tie you up
21:00 <mkzelda> my wrist feels like when i got my casts off after breaking my arms
21:00 <mkzelda> its really light
21:00 <mkzelda> it really caused a lot of carpal tunnel in that wrist
21:00 <mkzelda> cant wait for that to pass
21:00 <Lucifer_bed> you could make it a bit heavier by exercising it
21:01 <mkzelda> ill start wearing a watch
21:01 <mkzelda> hehe
21:01 <Lucifer_bed> nooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!
21:01 <mkzelda> i dont think ill ever wear a watch again
21:01 <Lucifer_bed> not wearing a watch means you never have to answer the question "Why do people spend so much of their time wearing digital watches?"
21:02 <Seeker> i havent worn a watch in years
21:02 <Lucifer_bed> alright, I"m going to reboot this computer.  I hate that about ubuntu, but I'll bet it fixes it
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21:02 <mkzelda> i havent worn one since i got a cellphone
21:02 <mkzelda> about 6 years ago
21:02 <Lucifer_arma> man, I haven't worn one since high school
21:02 <mkzelda> and now when someone asks for the time i dont have to look weird not looking at my fake watch and diggin in my pocket for my phone
21:03 <Lucifer_arma> periodically I get people asking why there isn't a watch mark on my wrist
21:03 <Lucifer_arma> they couldn't stick a real watch on there?!?!?
21:03 <Lucifer_arma> cheapskates
21:03 <mkzelda> for real, it had the writing on the face
21:03 <mkzelda> like ESP and TIM where the corner buttons on a timex would be
21:03 <Lucifer_arma> heh, when I was at just brakes, this new guy complained that there was no clock in the shop and asked how we tell time
21:03 <Lucifer_arma> I told him we use the sun
21:03 <mkzelda> but it didnt even have a fake watch face, it had a 1800 number
21:03 <Lucifer_arma> little pissant didn't believe me
21:04 <mkzelda> haha
21:04 <Lucifer_arma> so he tested me one day, and using the sun I hit the time within 15 minutes, which is all the accuracy you need
21:04 <Seeker> suns up....time to work
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21:04 <Lucifer_arma> not so good at it any more, though
21:04 <mkzelda> im good at it just being relative to last time i checked
21:04 <Seeker> suns down....time to go home
21:05 <mkzelda> cause i usually see a clock a few times a day
21:05 <Lucifer_arma> Seeker: your winter hours must suck ass
21:05 <Seeker> lol
21:05 <Seeker> winter hours are great......summer sux
21:05 <mkzelda> u dont have to work as much in the winter w/ that system
21:05 <Seeker> damn sun stays up too long
21:05 <mkzelda> man i hate savings time
21:05 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'll go see if the other machine is done booting
21:06 <mkzelda> except that the fall back an hour would land on my birthday weekend every year
21:06 <mkzelda> so i got 25 hrs for my parties
21:06 <Seeker> lol
21:06 <mkzelda> but now that congress changed that
21:06 <Seeker> yea....i go to the bar those nights
21:06 <mkzelda> spent a few billion to do so, to save a few dollars on heating bills
21:06 <mkzelda> yea as soon as it becomes 2 its back to 1
21:06 <mkzelda> i love that
21:06 <Lucifer_arma> that's why bar closing time is 1:59am, not 2am
21:07 <mkzelda> ive been to places that have staged a fake last call for those not paying attention
21:07 <Lucifer_arma> at least here it is, the bars don't stay open another hour
21:07 <mkzelda> oh they do here
21:07 <Seeker> here too
21:07 <Lucifer_arma> but when you work at a place that closes at midnight, it's fun to tease the fuckin' new guys
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21:07 <mkzelda> ive also been to a bar that just changed the clock ahead an hour and 15 mins one night and kicked everyone out
21:07 <Lucifer_arma> "oh yeah, at midnight we roll the clocks back an hour and you have to work, but your timesheet will say "clocked in 5pm, clocked out 12:15am"
21:08 <mkzelda> haha
21:08 <mkzelda> thats yet another reason why dst sux
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21:08 <Seeker> odd
21:08 <mkzelda> from a computer bookkeeping standpoint, or programming standpoint its such a pain
21:08 <Lucifer_arma> what does oppositional defiance disorder have to do with anything?
21:08 <mkzelda> and its something drupal hasnt addressed yet
21:08 <Seeker> im beginning to not like the trillian for irc
21:08 <mkzelda> so i have to change my clocks on all my sites twice a year
21:08 <Lucifer_arma> nah, programming isn't too hard with dst
21:09 <Lucifer_arma> you let glibc worry about it
21:09 <Lucifer_arma> as long as it gives you good timedeltas, you've nothing to wrry about
21:09 <Lucifer_arma> your output may be garbage from a logical standpoint, but the math is fine
21:09 <Lucifer_arma> um, why isn't drupal getting the time from glibc?
21:10 <GodTodd> they're fighting?
21:10 <Lucifer_arma> maybe php is really to blame
21:10 <mkzelda> its a setting
21:10 <mkzelda> in drupal management
21:10 <mkzelda> and it has you pick your time zone
21:11 <Lucifer_arma> I'll bet it's a php limitation, since mediawiki does it too, now that I think about it
21:11 <GodTodd> i've always had better luck picking my nose
21:11 <mkzelda> and its confusing b/c i dont know if im picking EST or EDT
21:11 <mkzelda> i never know if im -5 and -4 or -6 and -5
21:11 <Lucifer_arma> you can pick your timezone, and you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your timezone's nose!
21:11 <GodTodd> you know it :)
21:11 <Lucifer_arma> ok, checking that other machine again
21:12 <mkzelda> i'd fully support 1 international time
21:12 <mkzelda> getting used to working 9-5 being 3-11 would be fine w/ me
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21:14 <mkzelda> whenever those rich guys like branson do their air balloon flight around the world, who wins if someone starts at 16:00 one time zone, and the other starts at 05:00 in a diff timezone but same time.. but they take the same amount of time and land same time?
21:15 <GodTodd> then it's a tie
21:15 <mkzelda> you could say that they took off and landed same relative time, or you could say that the day hadnt progressed as far for the guy starting at 05:00
21:15 <GodTodd> nah...they do relative time then
21:15 <GodTodd> it's how long it takes them
21:15 <GodTodd> regardless of regular clock time
21:16 <mkzelda> nobody has completed it yet afaik
21:17 <mkzelda> so jamaica and antigua got busted up pretty good?
21:17 <mkzelda> im taking a sandals vacation in may, i hope its not all fucked up
21:21 <Lucifer_bed> hmmmmm
21:21 <Lucifer_bed> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
21:22  * Seeker offers lucifer a sledge hammer to "FIX" the computer
21:22 <luke-jr> Lucifer_bed: your wife is that uncomfortable, eh?
21:23 <Lucifer_bed> my wife's at work, idiot
21:23 <Seeker> #smack luke-jr
21:23 <luke-jr> oooh, you're cheating on her?
21:24 <luke-jr> I thought I was on your ignore list, anyway
21:24 <luke-jr> you're not supposed to have a response ;p
21:24  * Lucifer_bed <--------------------------------------------------------------------------
21:24 <Lucifer_bed> ok, printer works
21:24 <Lucifer_bed> apparently I plugged it into the wrong usb port
21:24 <Seeker> oops
21:25 <luke-jr> eh, sex with a printer does sound painful
21:26 <Lucifer_bed> why are you catholics so dirty, anyway?
21:26 <Lucifer_bed> Jesus wouldn't approve of such impurity
21:26 <luke-jr> I'm not the one in bed with a printer
21:26 <Lucifer_bed> and you're going to wind up in hell, and we don't want you there!
21:26 <Seeker> jesus wasnt catholic
21:26 <Lucifer_bed> no, but jesus can see that I'm configuring a printer so I can write papers for school
21:26 <Lucifer_bed> think about it
21:26 <Seeker> lol
21:27 <luke-jr> Seeker: sure He is
21:27 <Seeker> how so?
21:27 <luke-jr> He didn't start the Church just to leave it, duh
21:27 <Seeker> i do believe catholicism started AFTER he died
21:27 <luke-jr> yeah, and He started it
21:27 <Lucifer_bed> yeah, jesus tried to reform the jewish church
21:27 <luke-jr> He rose, remember
21:27 <Lucifer_bed> it was his apostles that started the church after he died
21:28 <Lucifer_bed> he couldn't rise, he was dead, and the only witnesses to his arousal (heh) were hashish smoking ancient psychedelics
21:28 <Seeker> i dont know why i even went to a religous conversation........im agnostic
21:28 <Lucifer_bed> I'd sooner trust Roger Waters to tell me he saw jesus rise from the dead
21:29 <Seeker> woooo hooo
21:29 <Lucifer_bed> or George Lucas when he shows me actually footage
21:29 <Seeker> hello......is there anybody in there?
21:29 <Lucifer_bed> blah, now I've gotta get my laptop to print on this printer :)
21:29 <luke-jr> not Mel Gibson, tho
21:29 <Seeker> trust the drunk jew hater
21:29 <Seeker> sure
21:30 <Lucifer_arma> this is awesome.  Come back over here and I can't see luke's side of the conversation
21:30 <Lucifer_arma> so I don't look as smart as I do on the machine in the bedroom
21:30 <Seeker> lol
21:30 <luke-jr> you don't need to hate jews to admit the fact that they're responsible for most of the major wars
21:31 <Seeker> EDIT----- REligion is responsible for most of the major wars
21:31 <Seeker> jot just the jews
21:31 <luke-jr> neoJudaism specifically
21:31 <Seeker> i believe catholics liked to rally behind god for the puropse of war
21:32 <Lucifer_arma> especially when they were killing jews
21:33 <Seeker> and muslums and anyone else that was in their way.............
21:33 <Seeker> mostly for monetary gain and nothing more
21:34 <Seeker> and im going to revise the catholics thing to be christians
21:34 <luke-jr> Seeker: FUD and lies
21:34 <Lucifer_bed> oh yeah, they totally got away from jesus when they politicized religion
21:34 <Seeker> thank you luci
21:35 <Seeker> i still laugh at the poor attempt at separation of church and state........
21:35 <Seeker> here in america at least
21:35 <luke-jr> seperation of church and state is heresy
21:36 <Seeker> heh....its plane impossible
21:36 <Seeker> unless you can strip a person of their beliefs before they are appointed to office
21:37 <Seeker> all their decisions are governed by those beliefs.....weather they deny it or not
21:37 <luke-jr> seperation of church and state is heresy
21:37 <luke-jr> because the Church is above the state
21:37 <Seeker> reppetition is annoying
21:38 <Seeker> and this is where a major fight can break out
21:38 <Seeker> because I have drastically different views on that subject than you do
21:38 <luke-jr> but your views are wrong
21:39 <Seeker> and theres the christin mentality that killed off most of the worlds religions
21:39 <Seeker> via extermination or assimilation
21:40 <Seeker> btw.....most of your religous holidays are based on ancient pagan beliefs and rituals
21:40 <luke-jr> killing you off wouldn't correct your views
21:40 <Seeker> did you knw that
21:40 <luke-jr> nope, they're just stealing the dates for a good purpose
21:40 <luke-jr> to let us Christians celebrate good things without persecution
21:41 <Seeker> lol
21:41 <Seeker> YOU were the persecutors
21:41 <luke-jr> nope
21:41 <Seeker> after the romans adopted christianity , they forced it on everyone
21:42 <Seeker> tell me im wrong
21:42  * Seeker is wrong
21:42 <luke-jr> you are
21:42 <Seeker> ah...i was trying to help ya
21:43 <luke-jr> gtg now, ttyl
21:43 <Seeker> read a little history man..............
21:43 <luke-jr> you should
21:43 <Seeker> its good for the soul
21:44 <luke-jr> historically, the Church has never taught anything wrong
21:44 <Seeker> the church wrote most of history as they wanted
21:44 <Seeker> you gotta dig deeper
21:45 <luke-jr> the Church is also perfect, so you can't get more ideal than that
21:46 <Seeker> LOL.......wheres my trout....i need to smack you around a lil bit
21:47 <GodTodd> #slap luke-jr
21:47 <armabot> GodTodd slaps luke-jr for being a raving moron.
21:47 <GodTodd> :)
21:47 <Seeker> thx god
21:47 <Seeker> lol
21:47 <GodTodd> and seeker has discovered the glory that is luke-jr :)
21:47 <Seeker> kinda fitting you did that concidering the topic'
21:47 <GodTodd> trust me...i've tried to enlighten him on that topic many times :)
21:48 <GodTodd> some people are just too ignorant to learn
21:48 <Seeker> i almost want to say we had this same conversation in a thread on the forums a long time ago
21:48 <GodTodd> probably
21:48 <Seeker> and i was arguing the same points to luke
21:48 <Seeker> dejavu
21:49 <GodTodd> truth be told, i wouldn't have near the problem with luke-jr if he just would accept that others have different beliefs that have just as good a chance at being right
21:50 <Lucifer_arma> man, linux is better than windows because of what I just did
21:50 <Lucifer_arma> the gui wouldn't let me tell it that my printer should be shared, so I hacked a text file and it worked :)
21:51 <Seeker> lol
21:53 <GodTodd> hrmmm....i might actually have another book idea...
21:53 <GodTodd> (and no it's not about luke-jr)
21:53 <GodTodd> heh
22:03 <Seeker> that topic has been covered.............
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22:29 <ghableska> #weather 50266
22:29 <ghableska> #tea
22:29 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 84.6°F (3:33 PM CDT on August 20, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 69.8°F. Pressure: 28.79 in 974.8 hPa (Falling).  Flash Flood Watch in effect through Wednesday afternoon...
22:29 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (3/32): ShowHealion, SpinAce, van Nelle
22:37 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
22:37 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Near Custer and Parker, Plano, Texas is 95.4°F (3:43 PM CDT on August 20, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 64.4°F. Pressure: 31.01 in 1050.0 hPa (Falling).
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22:44 <NeoThermic> #weather 93555
22:44 <armabot> NeoThermic: The current temperature in China Lake, California is 96.8°F (12:56 PM PDT on August 20, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 5%. Dew Point: 15.8°F. Pressure: 29.88 in 1012 hPa (Falling).
22:44 <NeoThermic> Winner! :D
22:45 <GodTodd> depends on perspective ;)
22:46 <ghableska> :o
22:46 <GodTodd> #weather 68131
22:46 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Omaha, Nebraska is 86.0°F (2:52 PM CDT on August 20, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 75.2°F. Pressure: 29.70 in 1006 hPa (Falling).
22:47 <GodTodd> #weather 85205
22:47 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Mesa, Arizona is 100.4°F (12:47 PM MST on August 20, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: 66.2°F. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling).
22:47 <GodTodd> #weather 88310
22:47 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Alamogordo, New Mexico is 100.4°F (2:31 PM MDT on August 20, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 22%. Dew Point: 55.4°F. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
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23:00 <Lucifer_arma> kinda warm back home
23:03 <GodTodd> yah it is
23:12 <spidey> #weather 38256
23:12 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 97.2°F (4:18 PM CDT on August 20, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 29%. Dew Point: 59.0°F. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012.4 hPa (Falling).
23:22 <Lucifer_arma> I need some new reading material
23:22  * Lucifer_arma goes to baen to see if they've got anything interesting
23:22 <Lucifer_arma> I suppose I could reread stuff
23:22 <tramshed> you read the wheel of time?
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23:37 <Lucifer_arma> tramshed: yeah, read that whole series
23:37 <Lucifer_arma> found lots of new stuff
23:38 <Lucifer_arma> Dave Weber's got a new one up, Eric Flint, and I do tend to check out books by their collaborators written without collaboration
23:38 <Lucifer_arma> so I snagged a couple of KD Wentwood books
23:38 <Lucifer_arma> 9 files, since 3 of them are reader files, that means 6 books installing right now
23:41 <tramshed> im finishing that series myself
23:42 <tramshed> reading knife of dreams right now
23:47 <spidey> #last --from epsy --with http://
23:47 <armabot> spidey: [20:38:54] <epsy> http://imstealingyour.info/schedule.php
23:47 <spidey> #last --from epsy --with http:// --nolimit
23:48 <armabot> spidey: [20:38:54] <epsy> http://imstealingyour.info/schedule.php
23:54 <GodTodd> cerby:    if I fuck my database with a flaccid cock tied to the front of a
23:54 <GodTodd>           bulldozer, I don't really care
23:55 <GodTodd> vivid :)
23:55 <ghableska> >_<
23:56 <ghableska> #tea
23:56 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (9/32): cos, Dez, Dr.Iglo, G5, Monkey, SlµQm$tEr, stoner 420, ~Çögöqt~, ¦Ö¦GoAX
23:56 <GodTodd> #coffee
23:57 -!- zacariaz [n=53dd8821@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has joined #armagetron
23:57 <zacariaz> what is it with the new norm settings at ddl?
23:57 <zacariaz> why htey change?

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