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Log from 2007-08-21:
--- Day changed Tue Aug 21 2007
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00:32 <Lucifer_arma> tramshed: that's definitely one of the best series I've read in a long time
00:32 <Lucifer_arma> really gets you into playing freeciv, though ;)
00:35 <tramshed> hah
00:36 <Lucifer_arma> I just put his 1812 book on my pda
00:36 <Lucifer_arma> it's an alternate story of the war of 1812, should be pretty interesting
00:36 <tramshed> im not too into the alternate history ones
00:36 <Lucifer_arma> he does do a lot of americans-patting-themselves-on-the-back, but the premise here is that the indians ally together against the americans
00:37 <tramshed> you ever read "A Handmaids Tale"?
00:37 <tramshed> thats a fucked up book
00:37 <Lucifer_arma> no.  Is it by Eric Flint?
00:37 <tramshed> 1984 type shit
00:37 <tramshed> I forget who wrote it
00:41 <Vanhayes> what series was that Lucifer_arma ?
00:41 <tramshed> The Wheel Of Time
00:41 <tramshed> robert jordan
00:41 <tramshed> really good shit
00:41 <tramshed> twelve books in it so, not finished
00:41 <tramshed> so = so far
00:41 <Vanhayes> thought thats what you were talking about, it one of my favorites
00:41 <tramshed> aye, mine too
00:42 <tramshed> I need to finish Knife Of Dreams
00:42 <tramshed> but ive been playing with my new computer
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01:55 <ghableska> #weather 50266
01:55 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 82.4°F (6:58 PM CDT on August 20, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 69.8°F. Pressure: 28.77 in 974.2 hPa (Steady).  Flash Flood Watch in effect through Wednesday afternoon...
01:56 <tramshed> #weather 49117
01:56 <armabot> tramshed: The current temperature in Beacher, 10th/Franklin St, Michigan City, Indiana is 73.4°F (7:02 PM CDT on August 20, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 71.6°F. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011.4 hPa (Rising).
01:57 <tramshed> #weather 60606
01:57 <armabot> tramshed: The current temperature in Cabrini Green, Chicago, Illinois is 71.8°F (7:01 PM CDT on August 20, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 68.0°F. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009.0 hPa (Steady).
02:14 <Vanhayes> #weather siant john
02:14 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
02:14 <Vanhayes> er
02:14 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
02:14 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 54°F / 12°C | Humidity: 66% | Pressure: 30.19in / 1022hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h | Updated: 9:00 PM ADT; Tonight - Clearing early this evening. Wind southwest 20 km/h (12 mph) becoming light this evening. Low 6C(43F) except 2C(36F) in low lying areas. Risk of frost.; Tuesday - Sunny. High 21C(70F). UV index 6 or high. (1 more message)
02:14 <Vanhayes> #more
02:14 <armabot> Vanhayes: Tuesday night clear. Wind southwest 20 km/h (12 mph) becoming light in the evening. Low 10C(50F).; Wednesday - Sunny. High 22C(72F).;
02:19 <tramshed> #weather balls
02:19 <armabot> tramshed: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
02:19 <tramshed> the server has no balls!
02:28 <Vanhayes> #weather dildo
02:28 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
02:28 <Vanhayes> #weather dildo, Newfoundland
02:28 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
02:28 <Vanhayes> come on, I know it exists
02:44 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, ping
02:46 <ghableska> okaaay Vanhayes
02:46 <Vanhayes> ive been there its hilarious
02:46 <ghableska> mhmm
02:47 <Vanhayes> http://maps.google.ca/maps?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&tab=wl&q= Proof!
02:49 <ghableska> ok, ok
02:54 <ghableska> grr, one more day of summer vacation :(
02:57 <Vanhayes> really you go back wednseday?
02:57 <ghableska> yes
02:58 <Vanhayes> weird, why the middle of the week?
02:58 <ghableska> no idea
02:58 <ghableska> the last day of school was a monday...
02:58 <ghableska> o_O
02:58 <Vanhayes> that make no sense at all, they are messing eith your heads
02:59 <Vanhayes> with*
03:00 <Vanhayes> we ( canadian highschoolers that is, not me any longer ) go back the first tuesday of the first full week of september
03:00 <Vanhayes> the first monday of that week is a holiday
03:01 <Vanhayes> i forget which one though
03:01 <ghableska> hmm
03:01 <Vanhayes> ah, labour day
03:01 <Vanhayes> the 3rd
03:02 <Vanhayes> so high school starts the 4th of sept
03:02 <ghableska> ah
03:02  * ghableska shakes fist at the american educational system
03:03 <Vanhayes> really, that makes no sense, why would you have to come back for one day after the weekend at the end of the year
03:04 <ghableska> well, we had a few snow days, so the school calendar moved back
03:04 <spidey> i've never once
03:04 <spidey> been to school on the last day
03:04 <Vanhayes> ha, glad we dont do that here, or id still be in school
03:05 <ghableska> haha
03:05 <spidey> not since i was in preschool
03:05 <Vanhayes> I havent since grade 5, well not including exams every year
03:05 <spidey> i used to skip my last exam day
03:05 <Vanhayes> though I think the last 2 years I didnt have one on friday
03:05 <spidey> and still pass the class
03:06 <Vanhayes> well I usually skip the class and go to the exam and still pass
03:06 <ghableska> heh
03:06 <ghableska> brb
03:07 <Vanhayes> one year I missed 56 days in one semester becasue the teachers went on this work to rule thing, so we only had 50 minute classes and 2 hour lunches and no one took attendence
03:07 <spidey> haha
03:07 <Vanhayes> thats the year i failed half the courses
03:09 <Vanhayes> spidey: did you graduate this year or is it going to take longer now?
03:11 <ghableska> 56 days, wtf
03:12 <Vanhayes> ya it was pretty fun, I still passed 2 courses too
03:12 <Vanhayes> 2 of 5, not sure how many USA takes in a semester
03:14 <ghableska> spidey: what grade are you in?
03:14 <ghableska> 12th?
03:14 <spidey> 11
03:14 <spidey> 25 books and i'll be in 12th
03:14 <ghableska> haha
03:14 <spidey> 25 after that, i'll be done
03:14 <Vanhayes> how long per book?
03:14 <spidey> dude
03:14 <spidey> i can do a book a hour
03:14 <spidey> i'm just lazy
03:15 <spidey> they're only 30 pages
03:15 <ghableska> ...
03:15 <Vanhayes> and you get a full high school diploma?
03:15 <spidey> the thing is
03:15 <spidey> i failed, so i'm on the accel thingy
03:16 <spidey> to get me back in my right grade, faster
03:16 <spidey> i took the tests
03:16 <spidey> i know the stuff, so they're giving me half the books
03:16 <spidey> in 12th grade i'll have around 46-50 books
03:16 <spidey> which is what you are supposed to get for each year
03:18 <Vanhayes> so when you finish the whole thing what courses do you get credited with?
03:19 <spidey> i get a full credit in the courses i took
03:19 <spidey> so
03:19 <spidey> if i take algebra 1/2
03:19 <spidey> i get a credit for it
03:19 <spidey> english? if i pass i get a full credit for it
03:20 <Vanhayes> hmm maybe i need to understand USA education system better
03:21 <Vanhayes> How many credits do you need to pass high school?
03:21 <spidey> this is more of a private homeschool
03:21 <spidey> not sure
03:21 <Vanhayes> ghableska:  How many credits do you need to pass high school?
03:22 <ghableska> 44 credits minimum
03:22 <ghableska> they're changing it to 48 though
03:23 <ghableska> you need to earn a certain number of credits each year too...
03:23 <Vanhayes> er, how many corses do you take a year?
03:23 <Vanhayes> courses*
03:23 <spidey> 8~
03:23 <ghableska> well, you have 8 periods, but you don't necessarily have to fill them up
03:24 <ghableska> 8 periods a day
03:24 <Vanhayes> uh 8 times 4 is 32....
03:24 <ghableska> err
03:24 <Vanhayes> unless you take more than 4 years of highschool?
03:24 <Vanhayes> or is it 8 per semester?
03:24 <spidey> 8-12
03:24 <spidey> is highschool
03:25 <ghableska> no
03:25 <ghableska> 9-12
03:25 <Vanhayes> ok, same here
03:25 <spidey> not in my old school
03:25 <ghableska> 7th and 8th is junior high
03:25 <spidey> well
03:25 <Vanhayes> 6th 7th 8th is middle school here
03:25 <spidey> jr high and high was in hte same building
03:25 <spidey> 1-4 = elementry
03:25 <spidey> 5-6 = middle
03:25 <ghableska> Vanhayes: I think it's per semester
03:25 <spidey> 7-8 jrhigh 9-12 = high
03:25 <Vanhayes> ah ok
03:26 <spidey> yes
03:26 <spidey> we're retarded
03:26 <Vanhayes> 3-5 is elementry k-2 is primary
03:26 <spidey> k is kindergarden
03:26 <Vanhayes> we only need 17 out of a possible 21 here
03:26 <spidey> lucky
03:27 <ghableska> Vanhayes: http://www.wdm.k12.ia.us/valley/counseling/grades.htm
03:27 <ghableska> that might clear things up
03:27 <Vanhayes> 10 courses per year 5 a semester, courses dont count as credits untill grade 10( you can take one elective course) and all your 11 and 12 count
03:28 <Vanhayes> 9 and 10 are the basics that are prerequisites for the real courses
03:28 <ghableska> here, everything before 9th is like that
03:29 <Vanhayes> and we uses percentages not alphebetical grades
03:29 <Vanhayes> use*
03:30 <Vanhayes> the passsing grade was 50% the year before I went into highschool then they bunped it up to 60%
03:30 <ghableska> :o
03:30 <ghableska> that's lenient
03:31 <Vanhayes> and the teachers arent alowed to give you a 59%, its too cruel
03:31 <Vanhayes> they either bump you up to 60 if they like you or down to 57 if they dont
03:31 <Vanhayes> er 58*
03:32 <ghableska> haha
03:33 <spidey> w
03:33 <spidey> t
03:33 <spidey> f
03:33 <spidey> 60%?
03:33 <spidey> lucky bastards
03:33 <spidey> we need a 70, atleast ;/
03:34 <Vanhayes> meh, our school system is pretty flawed
03:34 <Vanhayes> I learned in grade 4 how to coast
03:34 <ghableska> heh
03:34 <ghableska> we get to opt out of two semester exams of our choice
03:35 <Vanhayes> since then I got almost always 60ish grades or higher without doing any homework, and missing at least 15 days
03:35 <spidey> shit
03:35 <spidey> i used to miss 20-30 days a year
03:35 <spidey> heh
03:36 <spidey> i used to do good to
03:36 <Vanhayes> we get exemptions from 1 per semester if you miss 3 or less days
03:36 <spidey> what fucked me up is when i decided, i could miss 20-30 days and didn't need to do homework
03:36 <Vanhayes> never was eligible for one of those
03:36 <spidey> then i started failing =/
03:37 <Vanhayes> I never did any homework or studying at all in school, not since grade 4
03:38 <ghableska> :d
03:39 <Vanhayes> and th only reason I had to go back a year is because I couldnt control my skipping, when it is so nice out and the teachers dont take atendance, its like they are saying dont come
03:40 <spidey> lol
03:40 <ghableska> we have a separate building for 9th graders o_O
03:41 <Vanhayes> how many people go to your school?
03:42 <ghableska> to the main building?
03:42 <ghableska> or 9-12?
03:42 <Vanhayes> uh lets go with 9-12
03:43 <ghableska> probably 2300 altogether
03:43 <ghableska> 1900 in the 10-12 building
03:43 <Vanhayes> wow
03:43 <ghableska> #w Valley High School
03:43 <armabot> ghableska: Search took 0.14 seconds: Hutt Valley High School - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutt_Valley_High_School>; Apple Valley High School - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Valley_High_School>; Valley High School (Des Moines, Iowa) - Wikipedia, the free ...: (3 more messages)
03:44 <ghableska> wow
03:44 <ghableska> we have an entry on Wikipedia
03:44 <ghableska> #more
03:44 <armabot> ghableska: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valley_High_School_(Des_Moines,_Iowa)>; El Cajon Valley High School - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Cajon_Valley_High_School>; Neuqua Valley High School - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuqua_Valley_High_School>; Passaic Valley Regional High School - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: (2 more messages)
03:44 <spidey> who need geometry? -.-
03:44 <ghableska> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valley_High_School_%28Iowa%29
03:44 <Vanhayes> whats a mock trial?
03:44 <ghableska> spidey: algebra is way more fun than geometry
03:45 <Vanhayes> er wait is that like court?
03:45 <ghableska> MOCK court
03:45 <Vanhayes> I think we had that too
03:45 <ghableska> it's a competition sort of thing
03:45 <ghableska> we have a model United Nations team too
03:46 <Vanhayes> heh, we have 500-600 people in our school, I doubt we would have enough for one mock trial if it wasnt forced in law class
03:46 <ghableska> ah
03:46 <ghableska> we have a debate class, and it's required that you attend tournaments and stuff
03:47 <Vanhayes> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hampton_new_brunswick <-- thats my town
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03:48 <spidey> omg
03:48 <ghableska> ?
03:48 <spidey> wtf is this shit
03:48 <spidey> they give me a triangle type thing
03:48 <Vanhayes> hmm I think we might have had a debate club that came in 8th for something, says in the talk page anyway
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03:48 <spidey> that looks like a bow and arrow with a up/down line in the center
03:48 <spidey> and tell me to find the ray
03:48 <spidey> fuck you!
03:49 <Vanhayes> what is a ray? radius?
03:49 <spidey> i don't know
03:49 <spidey> they don't tell me
03:49 <spidey> they just say "ray"
03:50 <Vanhayes> ha
03:50 <Vanhayes> maybe some guy called ray wrote the book
03:50 <ghableska> it's a it's a line that has one endpoint
03:50 <ghableska> er
03:50 <ghableska> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_%28mathematics%29#Ray
03:52 <Vanhayes> hmm google maps should allow you to choose a route that doesnt cross into another country
03:53 <ghableska> ?
03:54 <Vanhayes> http://maps.google.ca/maps?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&tab=wl&q=  < thats the quickest way to get out west apparently
03:55 <ghableska> umm, the url doesn't really help...
03:55 <Vanhayes> hmm, that link doesnt seem to load a route for me...
03:55 <Vanhayes> type in from Hampton, NB to Calgary, AL
03:56 <Vanhayes> its almost all the way there in the US
03:57 <ghableska> ok
03:57 <ghableska> hahaha
03:58 <Vanhayes> its a 2 day 1 hour trip, thats I spend about 2 hours in canada
03:58 <Vanhayes> and thats driving straight there
03:58 <ghableska> you can customise your trip though...
03:59 <ghableska> drag the blue line
03:59 <Vanhayes> ya, im not sure what way we want to go though
03:59 <Vanhayes> I wouldnt mind seeing some of the states, plus its faster
03:59 <ghableska> heh
03:59 <Vanhayes> go that way getting there, then drive back through canada
04:00 <ghableska> drive through Des Moines :P
04:00 <ghableska> how expensive is flying?
04:00 <Vanhayes> not sure, but we need the car out there to get to work
04:00 <Vanhayes> I think its about 350 a person one way
04:01 <ghableska> ah
04:02 <Vanhayes> hmm
04:02 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
04:02 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 46°F / 8°C | Humidity: 81% | Pressure: 30.21in / 1023hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 2mph / 4km/h | Updated: 11:00 PM ADT; Tonight - Clearing early this evening. Wind southwest 20 km/h (12 mph) becoming light this evening. Low 6C(43F) except 2C(36F) in low lying areas. Risk of frost.; Tuesday - Sunny. High 21C(70F). UV index 6 or high. (1 more message)
04:02 <Vanhayes> #weather cleveland
04:02 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
04:02 <Vanhayes> #weather cleveland, ohio
04:02 <armabot> Vanhayes: The current temperature in Cleveland Burke, Ohio is 68.0°F (10:00 PM EDT on August 20, 2007). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 64.4°F. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
04:03 <Vanhayes> #weather calgary
04:03 <armabot> Vanhayes: The current temperature in Calgary, Alberta is 62.6°F (8:00 PM MDT on August 20, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 37.4°F. Pressure: 29.76 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
04:03 <ghableska> #weather 50266
04:03 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 79.0°F (9:04 PM CDT on August 20, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 69.8°F. Pressure: 28.78 in 974.5 hPa (Falling).  Flash Flood Watch in effect through Wednesday afternoon...
04:03 <Vanhayes> heh
04:03 <ghableska> aw
04:03 <ghableska> only a month or so till autumn :D
04:04 <Vanhayes> almost a month exaxtly I think
04:04 <Vanhayes> exactly*
04:04 <ghableska> autumn is the best season, by far
04:05 <Vanhayes> I like autumn the least
04:05 <ghableska> haha, why?
04:05 <Vanhayes> it goes autmn spring winter/summer
04:05 <ghableska> o_O
04:05 <Vanhayes> in the summer I like winter in the winter I like summer
04:05 <ghableska> so in autumn you like spring?
04:06 <Vanhayes> no I hate autumn in autumn, I like spring in spring
04:06 <Vanhayes> autumn sucks
04:06 <ghableska> oh
04:06 <ghableska> lies
04:06 <ghableska> spring sucks
04:06 <ghableska> it never stops raining
04:06 <Vanhayes> I like winter and summer equally but around the end of each I like the other better
04:07 <ghableska> the ground is perpetually squishy
04:07 <Vanhayes> its a nice change from the snow
04:07 <spidey> mkzelda,
04:07 <spidey> why you keep joining/leaving ts? :p
04:07 <ghableska> well, my birthday is in autumn :p
04:07 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: pong
04:07 <Vanhayes> mine too
04:08 <ghableska> ...
04:08 <Lucifer_arma> my school always started in the middle of the week
04:08 <Vanhayes> sept 30 and I can buy booze anywhere in canada
04:08 <Lucifer_arma> but now it starts next monday
04:08 <Lucifer_arma> kids too
04:08 <Vanhayes> I think uni students start next monday here too
04:08 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, do you know how to redirect with iptables?
04:08 <Lucifer_arma> no, but google does
04:08 <Lucifer_arma> man iptables does too :)
04:09 <spidey> hm
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04:14  * ghableska yawns
04:15  * GodTodd snway.
04:16  * ghableska ddoTdoG spals
04:17  * GodTodd notes that didn't really work out ;)
04:17 <ghableska> bah
04:18 <GodTodd> .akselbahg spals ddoTdoG *
04:18 -!- ghableska is now known as akselbahg
04:18 <GodTodd> #slap luke-jr
04:18 <armabot> GodTodd slaps luke-jr for being a raving moron.
04:19 <GodTodd> #slap luke-jr_work
04:19 <armabot> GodTodd slaps luke-jr_work for being a raving moron.
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04:33 <quarg> i dont suppose that z man is out there?
04:38 <Lucifer_arma> I'm sure he's out there somewhere, somewhere, somewhere
04:39 <quarg> tlusifer
04:39 <quarg> you know maping?
04:39 <quarg> for tron
04:40 <quarg> lol thats should be lucifer
04:41 <Lucifer_arma> tab completion is a wonderful gift to all of mankind
04:41 <luke-jr> שּ* ddoTdoG spals rJ-ekuL.שּשּשּשּשּשּשּשּשּשּשּשּשּשּשּשּשּשּשּשּשּשּשּ
04:42 <quarg> mm tab completion?
04:42 <quarg> o and luke the beta section is down
04:42 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
04:42 <quarg> cant go to the resource page
04:42 <Lucifer_arma> type "luc<tab>" and see what comes up
04:43 <quarg> Lucifer_arma: hi
04:43 <quarg> o i see
04:43 <quarg> im not an irc user
04:44 <quarg> ok so im making a sumo map with multiple zones for each player
04:44 <quarg> they seem to assign all over the map and not in the position of the players
04:44 <quarg> i did assign them positions
04:45 <quarg> and is there a way to make certain zones idle till touched?
04:45 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know the answer to the question you asked, but it does not match the buildup you gave
04:46 <Lucifer_arma> I guess I just need to wait and see if gcaldaemon runs in the cronjob now
04:46 <quarg> um ok?
04:47 <quarg> your scring me:)
04:47 <Lucifer_arma> scring?
04:47 <Lucifer_arma> #dict scring
04:47 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: No definition for "scring" could be found.
04:47 <luke-jr> quarg: define down
04:47 <quarg> scarering
04:47 <Lucifer_arma> #google spell scring
04:47 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: spring
04:47 <Lucifer_arma> scaring you?  mmm?
04:47  * Lucifer_arma growls
04:48 <quarg> either i cnat read or you make no sence
04:48 <Lucifer_arma> ok, 7 minutes and the thing should run, and then we shall see if it all works
04:48  * GodTodd shakes
04:48  * Lucifer_arma glares at GodTodd (hi there!) 
04:48  * GodTodd glares back
04:48 <Lucifer_arma> hey godtodd, here's a hint, don't try to run gcaldaemon from a udev rule
04:48 <Lucifer_arma> kpilot will finish syncing before gcaldaemon does
04:48 <GodTodd> i'm not christian...you can't scare me :P
04:48 <GodTodd> ummm..ok...wasn't planning on it ;)
04:49 <luke-jr> quarg: define down
04:49 <quarg> is there a full command list including all fort and ctf ?
04:49 <quarg> um it doesnt seem to load
04:50 <quarg> one sec
04:50 <GodTodd> ok...will my secondary ide hdd be adversely affected sharing wise when i exorcise the kitchen server of windows and put ubuntu SE on it?
04:50 <quarg> mm ok it seems to be working now
04:51  * GodTodd points out to quarg that that is luke-jr's way of "fixing" something and trying to make you think it wasn't broke nin the first place.
04:52 <GodTodd> broken in*
04:52 <quarg> so i thought but didnt want to say
04:52  * GodTodd wanted to say :)
04:52 <luke-jr> oddly enough, it's still broken for me
04:52 <GodTodd> not odd to me
04:53 <quarg> you shouldnt spill your milk on the server
04:53 <luke-jr> nor edit DNS zones while sleeping
04:54 <GodTodd> nor try to fix computers
04:57  * Lucifer_arma points out  you can't just append "wise" and make any word an adjective
04:57 <Lucifer_arma> think about it, you could have "luke-jrwise" then, and those two words just don't go together
05:10 <akselbahg> #night
05:10 <armabot> Good night akselbahg!
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05:14 <GodTodd> okay, Mr. EEnglish, will my computer's ability to share the secondary ide hdd inside its belly with windows be hindered by the install of ubuntu SE in the place of windows xp?  this is assuming that the configuration of samba goes according to plan and as flawlessly as humanly possible...
05:15 <GodTodd> :P
05:17 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: unlikely
05:17 <Lucifer_arma> #eightball what's the answer to Godtodd's question?
05:17 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: No chance.
05:17 <Lucifer_arma> sorry
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> btw, English only has 1 E in it
05:25 <GodTodd> not when it's online...then it's E-English
05:25 <GodTodd> :)
05:35 <GodTodd> one other thing, Lucifer_arma....do you run a scanner?
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: you mean like scan papers?
05:51 <GodTodd> yeah
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> I have one, and it works, mostly, but I haven't really gotten it all up and running
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> quite the contrary, I've just been stacking shit on it
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> why do you ask?
05:51 <GodTodd> haha so do we...but we still use it :/
05:52 <GodTodd> i just was wondering if ubuntu was good at recognizing it
05:52 <GodTodd> i'm assuming so since it sees it as a printer
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> that mostly depends on the scanner, actually
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> it should recognize mine, but mine's an all-in-one dealie that has a printer and a scanner in it, and I have to configure it for each use
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> not for each use of the machine, I mean once for the scanner and once for the printer
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> but I don't use the printer function because it's just a shitty inkjet
05:53 <GodTodd> yeah ours is an all in one
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> and I really hate inkjets
05:53 <GodTodd> ours prints well
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> mine's an epson, and last time I had it plugged in was under Mandriva
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> it recognized the printer and the scanner, but I had to do a little extra configuration to make the scanner work for some reason
05:55 <GodTodd> hmmm so not really a big worry then
05:55 <GodTodd> :)
05:55 <Lucifer_arma> no, not really.  :)
05:55 <Lucifer_arma> worth testing on your existing ubuntu installation if you're worried about it, though
05:56 <Lucifer_arma> when I setup my printer earlier, I found it very easy to set it up to print locally, but I had to tweak the cups config file directly to get it to share over the network
05:56 <Lucifer_arma> I see why you like ktorrent, btw
05:56 <GodTodd> why's that? :)
05:56 <Lucifer_arma> it's what kubuntu installed here, so it's what I've got running right now and it's very nice compared to the standard bittorrent client
05:56 <GodTodd> yeah...it's not bad really
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> I found a bunch of cds I'd burned a long time ago when I was cleaning the garage, and I was cleaning them and testing them
05:57 <GodTodd> probably the best one i've used on either platform
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> and my labyrinth disc was totally borked, big nasty gouges in it
05:57 <GodTodd> :/
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> so I went over to spidey's home to see what I could find, and found it, and had ktorrent installed , so it's working right now
05:57 <GodTodd> heh
05:58 <Lucifer_arma> got a download running on all of red dwarf.  I hope they're good quality.  ;)
05:58 <GodTodd> they're usually not bad
05:58 <spidey> GodTodd, my home?
05:59 <GodTodd> spidey: not me :P
05:59 <spidey> er
05:59 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, my home?
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> ew, that was a very silent but very smelly fart
05:59 <GodTodd> them's the best :) they sneak up on people and share the glory :)
06:00 <GodTodd> sometimes with the waft factor low enough you can let one in an aisle of a store and be a couple of aisles away before you hear the gagging
06:01  * GodTodd farts for sport. :)
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> I always try to hold my farts in the store for when I'm in the checkout line
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> worst that happens is people look around uncomfortably
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> best is I get to be next :)
06:01 <GodTodd> haha
06:02 <GodTodd> best place for the loud ones is in a library
06:02 <Lucifer_arma> it also has the added benefit of distracting the kids from the candy by the registers, but they don't really worry about that stuff anyway (because they know I won't buy it--ever)
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> at work I try to time them so they come out near the table of shitty people, because there's always one group of kids that's really shitty
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> either their attitude is bad, or they just don't get physics and keep the lab occupied until the cops come around to lock up
06:04 <GodTodd> some nights my farts could close down a bar
06:04 <GodTodd> although i have yet to try and let a good wet one in line at the airport
06:04 <GodTodd> that could be fun
06:04 <GodTodd> i'm sure i'd avoid a body cavity search :)
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> my fucking calendar is fucked up again
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> this is starting to piss me off
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> really
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> starting to piss me off
06:08 <GodTodd> what's up with it?
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> timezone problems
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> on google, it's set to central, but when created I accidentally set it to UTC
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> so when it was set in UTC, I created all the events in it at their scheduled times in central time
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> then I realized my fuckup when I got gcaldaemon to sync and all the times were wrong
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> fixed the calendar, but had to delete all the events and recreate them (my fall schedule)
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> then it was fixed, and I had a good sync to my pda
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> now they're all fucked up again, like the calendar is still stuck on utc
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> I think I have to delete the calendar and create a new one in its place
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> there's a reason all of google's services are marked beta :/
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.weather.com/maps/news/atlstorm4/deansatellitelightning_large.html
06:16 <Lucifer_arma> according to the dean satellite, the yucatan peninsula is already getting whacked
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06:50 <Lucifer_arma> this isn't fucking working :(
06:50  * Lucifer_arma is about ready to just face the facts that google calendar really is still a beta app
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I'm going to start writing a book of my own now
06:50 <GodTodd> fiction or non?
06:51 <luke-jr> he only knows fiction
06:51 <luke-jr> duh
06:59 <GodTodd> so it's based on your beliefs, luke-jr?
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07:03 <Lucifer_arma_> eek, what the hell happened?
07:03 <Lucifer_arma_> fiction
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07:04 <Lucifer_arma> I've got two alien invasion stories I want to tell, because they'll be fun to tell :)
07:05 <GodTodd> i'm currently outlining a second book
07:05 <GodTodd> if i do it right, it's gonna rock :)
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> then don't do it wrong :)
07:06 <GodTodd> trying not to ;)
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> I want to take a slightly different approach, I want the alien race to use sublight travel and cryogenics to get to earth with the first wave
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> for one story, anyway, and the budding private space industry forms into a global space navy to fight them
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> the other one is a standard surface invasion, but the story revolves around a group of guerrillas in central texas
07:10 <GodTodd> heh
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> the problem with the second story is making it truly believable
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> I don't want to dumb down the aliens, so I have to hobble them some other way
07:10 <GodTodd> i need to work on my fantasy novel too...i think fantasy is going to be huge huge huge again fairly soon
07:11 <GodTodd> disease is always good :)
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> well, I was thinking several things
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> first, we're the first technologically advanced people they've encountered.  Others they've conquered may have had gunpowder, but that was it
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> second, no FTL, meaning their logistics train is already sent and the lead time on new supplies is a loooong time
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> have to think about that some more, because it's entirely possible the lead time is something like 10 years minimum, which is a tad unreasonable scale to conduct a war
07:13 <GodTodd> truly
07:14 <Lucifer_arma> but stretching out their logistics train has some promise, and is believable if they don't know how advanced we really are, which lets me play on the theme that we should already be colonizing space at our current tech level
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> and third, their tech level for conducting surface war isn't too far advanced compared to our own
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> maybe give them shortages in metals so they can build ships, but not a lot of armor
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07:18 <Lucifer_arma> could even make them not oxygen breathers, giving them an extra burden fighting here
07:18 <Lucifer_arma> but smart, that's what I want, smart aliens.  I'm kinda tired of reading about dumb aliens invading earth and losing
07:18 <Lucifer_arma> I want to read about smart aliens invading and losing :)
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> but the focus on guerrillas will let me explore terrorism-related themes
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I think the surface war is more interesting
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> end the book and leave room to move the war into the inner solar system
07:22 <GodTodd> heh
07:22 <GodTodd> hrmm...is ubuntu server supposed to boot into a gui?
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> well, see, I want to explore tactics in solar orbit
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> no, ubuntu server doesn't even install a gui
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> that's why it fits into 500MB :)
07:23 <GodTodd> hrmm
07:24 <GodTodd> this is hanging at running local boot scripts...does that take a while first time?
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> is it booting the cd or an installed os?
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> the cd takes awhile to run, for some reason
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> but the installed os should boot in seconds
07:24 <GodTodd> it said the base system is installed
07:24 <GodTodd> took the cd out and rebooted
07:25 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, I don't remember the first boot after installing
07:25 <Lucifer_arma> best is to let it run for awhile and see what happens :)
07:25 <GodTodd> that's what i'm doing :/
07:26 <GodTodd> it's possible, i'm assuming, to install a gui once i figure out how to get the wireless card working, right?
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, but if you were going to do that, why not just install the desktop os?
07:26 <GodTodd> well...it's pretty moot anyways since i have to figure out how to get the wireless working from term ;)
07:29 <GodTodd> grrr still hanging :/
07:37 <Lucifer_arma> aha, I've got it :)
07:37 <Lucifer_arma> why are we so arrogant as to presume that any alien who attacks is going to do so with the support of their population?
07:37 <Lucifer_arma> what if the whole Earth is Iraq and the aliens are run by bushie?
07:45 <GodTodd> grrrrr
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> still hanging?
07:54 <GodTodd> it was...i hit enter and got a login prompt
07:54 <GodTodd> trying to get the wireless working now
07:54 <GodTodd> so i can get it on the network
08:34 <GodTodd> well...kubuntu finds everything fine
08:34 <GodTodd> :/
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09:34 <spidey> argh
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10:46 <kidanger> What patch I must use ? pigsty-061021.zip or pigsty-061021-ljr2.patch.bz2 ?
10:46 <mixnetwork> eddie are you there?
10:52 <kidanger> What patch works with armagetronad-  ?
10:53 <eddiefantastic> hi mixnetwork
10:55 <eddiefantastic> kidanger: they work with the svn repo, not sure they work with that source
11:03 <kidanger> oh
11:04 <kidanger> I must do same that http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Sty ?
11:04 <mixnetwork> oh hi
11:04 <mixnetwork> there now?
11:05 <mixnetwork> wrote you a PN over the message board
11:05 <mixnetwork> i put there the main thing in, so you can better understand what i would like to have
11:06 <mixnetwork> i hope thats possible in a simple way ;)
11:07 <mixnetwork> I donn't want you to have a lot of work and time for that :)
11:08 <mixnetwork> eddie? there? or gone again? :)
11:09 <eddiefantastic> hi mixnetwork, I'm here, reading your pm
11:11 <eddiefantastic> you need to change these lines on ladder.php:
11:11 <eddiefantastic> $server="wildfort";
11:11 <eddiefantastic> $host="mysql_host";
11:11 <eddiefantastic> $user="mysql_user";
11:11 <eddiefantastic> $pw="mysql_pass";
11:11 <eddiefantastic> $db="mysql_db";
11:11 <mixnetwork> ok
11:11 <mixnetwork> i did that already
11:12 <eddiefantastic> then: cat /path/to/ladderlog.txt | path/to/ladder.php
11:12 <eddiefantastic> will do a one off hit
11:13 <mixnetwork> where can i find that?
11:13 <eddiefantastic> should populate the database with the data
11:13 <eddiefantastic> that is the command
11:13 <kidanger> eddiefantastic: I have some error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34510/
11:13 <mixnetwork> sry, donn't understand
11:14 <eddiefantastic> cat /path/to/ladderlog.txt | path/to/ladder.php
11:14 <eddiefantastic> kiddanger, you have the wrong source there
11:14 <eddiefantastic> I think the wiki may be incorrect
11:14 <kidanger> arph
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11:15 <eddiefantastic> kidanger: I think someone uploaded a prepatched version somewhere on the forums
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11:16 <mixnetwork> like this?
11:16 <mixnetwork> cat /var/games/armagetronad-dedicated/var | /srv/www/vhosts/prefer.de/subdomains/spacezone/httpdocs/space
11:17 <eddiefantastic> cat /var/games/armagetronad-dedicated/var/ladderlog.txt | /home/me/ladder.php
11:17 <eddiefantastic> more like that
11:17 <eddiefantastic> make sure ladder.php is excecutable
11:18 <kidanger> heuu I must Compile ? make a deb ?
11:18 <eddiefantastic> wait up kidanger, I will give you a source
11:18 <kidanger> http://flynns.servegame.org/armagetronad-0.2.8_svn04122007.pigsty_ljr3.tar.gz  ?
11:19 <eddiefantastic> that looks about right
11:20 <eddiefantastic> yes, you need to compile it
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11:20 <kidanger> unzip before ? ^^
11:20 <eddiefantastic> yep
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11:22 <mixnetwork> hmm, i get no database selected
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11:22 <eddiefantastic>  $db="mysql_db";
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11:22 <eddiefantastic> did you set that?
11:23 <mixnetwork> $db="armagetron";
11:23 <mixnetwork> this i have
11:23 <kidanger> I can't compile :/
11:24 <eddiefantastic> kidanger: why not?
11:24 <kidanger> Don't work
11:24 <eddiefantastic> mixnetwork: can you run ./ladder.php on it's own?
11:25 <eddiefantastic> kidanger: what's the error?
11:25 <eddiefantastic> kidanger: you compile with --disable-glout?
11:25 <kidanger> I have try: ./bootstrap.sh ./configure make and make install
11:25 <mixnetwork> #!/usr/bin/php No database selected
11:25 <mixnetwork> hmmm
11:26 <eddiefantastic> mixnetwork: can you: mysql -uusername -ppassword armagetron
11:26 <eddiefantastic> from the command line
11:26 <kidanger> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34511/
11:26 <kidanger> sry It's in french
11:27 <eddiefantastic> sudo apt-get install build-essential
11:28 <kidanger> build-essential est déjà la plus récente version disponible.
11:28 <eddiefantastic> sudo apt-get install automake
11:29 <eddiefantastic> sudo apt-get install build-essential automake
11:29 <eddiefantastic> kidanger: what's that in english?
11:29 <kidanger> #t fr en deja installé
11:29 <armabot> kidanger: already installé
11:30 <eddiefantastic> you probably just need automake
11:30 <kidanger> yes
11:30 <kidanger> and now ?
11:30 <eddiefantastic> you need that for bootstrap
11:30 <eddiefantastic> try again
11:30 <mixnetwork> ok, works now
11:31 <mixnetwork> but i get this now
11:31 <mixnetwork> Warning: fgets(): supplied argument is not a valid stream resource in /srv/www/vhosts/prefer.de/subdomains/spacezone/httpdocs/space/ladder.php on line 27
11:32 <eddiefantastic> what version of php do you have?
11:32 <eddiefantastic> php -v
11:32 <kidanger> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34512/
11:32 <kidanger> awww
11:32 <mixnetwork> 4.3.10
11:34 <eddiefantastic> kidanger: crumbs
11:34 <kidanger> #t en fr crumbs
11:34 <armabot> kidanger: miettes
11:34 <kidanger> humm
11:35 <kidanger> ./configure ----etc works
11:35 <eddiefantastic> kidanger: try to run it then, it may be ok
11:36 <kidanger> run what ?
11:36 <kidanger> ./configure --disable-glout --enable-automakedefaults --disable-sysinstall --disable-etc --disable-useradd --disable-initscripts     ?
11:36 <eddiefantastic> armagetronad-dedicated
11:36 <eddiefantastic> make && make install
11:36 <eddiefantastic> ?
11:36 <mixnetwork> eddi:i have version 4.3.10
11:37 <eddiefantastic> ok, I'm lookin, I have 5,
11:37 <kidanger> aww aww
11:38 <eddiefantastic> mixnetwork: was that with the whole 'cat ladderlog.txt | ladder.php' command?
11:39 <eddiefantastic> or just on it's own?
11:39 <mixnetwork> jepp
11:39 <mixnetwork> eh
11:39 <mixnetwork> hoe you mean
11:39 <kidanger> look that : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34513/
11:39 <mixnetwork> how
11:39 <kidanger> many error
11:39 <mixnetwork> this message comes if I call the ladder.php in the browser
11:39 <mixnetwork> many
11:39 <mixnetwork> yes
11:40 <mixnetwork> oops
11:40 <mixnetwork> lol
11:40 <mixnetwork> look here:http://spacezone.prefer.de/space/ladder.php
11:41 <kidanger> I don't understand what is the problem !
11:42 <eddiefantastic> brb
11:47 <eddiefantastic> mixnetwork: ladder.php is a parsing script, not a webpage
11:47 <eddiefantastic> you will need to modify ladder_ladle.php to display the data
11:47 <eddiefantastic> ladder.php is for populating the database from ladderlog.txt
11:54 <kidanger> And me ? how can I do a CTF ?
11:54 <eddiefantastic> kidanger: http://crazy-tronners.com/tron-pig-160407.tar.gz
11:55 <eddiefantastic> kidanger: try that source, you don't need to ./bootstrap
11:55 <eddiefantastic> just configure
11:55 <eddiefantastic> make && make install
11:55 <kidanger> configure with argument
11:55 <kidanger> ?
11:55 <eddiefantastic> yes
11:55 <kidanger> k
11:55 <kidanger> Thanks
11:57 <mixnetwork> oh ok
11:58 <kidanger> so : I download, extract, cd <in>, ./configure <arguments>, make && make install ?
11:59 <kidanger> eddiefantastic: there is a command to extract ?
11:59 <mixnetwork> whre must i put the ladder.php in?
11:59 <eddiefantastic> kidanger: that's the plan ;)
11:59 <kidanger> :)
11:59 <eddiefantastic> mixnetwork: it doesn't matter where it is really
11:59 <mixnetwork> ok
11:59 <kidanger> eddiefantastic: there is a command to extract ?
11:59 <mixnetwork> what is about the inc files and so on in the other php file
12:00 <eddiefantastic> tar -zxvf file.tar.gz
12:00 <mixnetwork> like this
12:00 <mixnetwork> include_once($phpbb_root_path . 'extension.inc');
12:00 <eddiefantastic> that's right, remove all them
12:00 <eddiefantastic> you will need to create your own links to mysql
12:01 <mixnetwork> like?
12:01 <mixnetwork> hav ean example?
12:01 <eddiefantastic> $server="wildfort";
12:01 <eddiefantastic> $host="mysql_host";
12:01 <eddiefantastic> $user="mysql_user";
12:01 <eddiefantastic> $pw="mysql_pass";
12:01 <eddiefantastic> $db="mysql_db";
12:01 <kidanger> k
12:02 <kidanger> humm Are you sure ? I don't must patch ??
12:02 <mixnetwork> in the ladder_ladle.php?
12:02 <eddiefantastic> you will need a mysql_connect() statement in there somewher
12:02 <eddiefantastic> kidanger: the patch is already applied
12:03 <kidanger> hmm
12:03 <eddiefantastic> mixnetwork: you really ought to run yourself though a php/mysql tutorial somewhere
12:03 <eddiefantastic> There's nothing hard here, but you will need to know the basics
12:03 <kidanger> ./configure --disable-glout --enable-automakedefaults --disable-sysinstall --disable-etc --disable-useradd --disable-initscripts   ?
12:04 <mixnetwork> ok, i will try, thanks so far
12:04 <eddiefantastic> kidanger: the only one of those I use is --disable-glout. I don't know what the others do
12:04 <kidanger> hm
12:04 <mixnetwork> if i donn't get it to work, i will lett it as it is :(
12:05 <eddiefantastic> mixnetwork: you're welcome.
12:05 <kidanger> I don't must compile I have try ./armagetronad-dedicated and it works
12:05 <eddiefantastic> you have another copy there somewhere?
12:06 <eddiefantastic> kidanger: I do believe I gave you the binary
12:06 <kidanger> WWAW !!! The server work !
12:06 <kidanger> ty
12:06 <eddiefantastic> If you have problems, you may need to compile from source
12:06 <kidanger> ok
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12:07 <eddiefantastic> but I ran that binary for a couple of months on ctwf
12:07 <eddiefantastic> I was having trouble compiling ;)
12:08 <eddiefantastic> kidanger[Mange]: it has a few extra hacks there too. in the var dir you have a new log: edlog.txt
12:08 <eddiefantastic> it gives you all manner of new information
12:08 <kidanger[Mange]> ok.
12:08  * kidanger[Mange] part quelques minutes
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12:09 <eddiefantastic> Now, who can tell me how to push array values in python?
12:21 <mixnetwork> Warning: mysql_query() [function.mysql-query]: A link to the server could not be established in /srv/www/vhosts/prefer.de/subdomains/spacezone/httpdocs/space/ladder_ladle.php on line 147
12:21 <mixnetwork> Access denied for user 'wwwrun'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
12:21 <mixnetwork> ooops
12:21 <mixnetwork> did not want that
12:21 <mixnetwork> hehe
12:23 <mixnetwork> ok, have to quit here, i can't find that out what to do or change. Its difficult if you are not familiar with php. I think i must let the txt files presente on the website, not ice, but anyway something :)
12:24 <eddiefantastic> mixnetwork: your php doesn't like the line:     $line = rtrim(fgets(STDIN, 1024));
12:24 <eddiefantastic> line 27
12:24 <mixnetwork> ?
12:25 <eddiefantastic> that's why it failed initially
12:25 <mixnetwork> line 27 is empty
12:25 <eddiefantastic> of ladder.php?
12:25 <mixnetwork> oh no the other one
12:25 <eddiefantastic> you still have no data in your database
12:26 <mixnetwork> you mean this one
12:26 <mixnetwork>  $line = rtrim(fgets(STDIN, 1024));
12:26 <mixnetwork> data is in database
12:26 <mixnetwork> i can see it
12:27 <eddiefantastic> it is? cool
12:27 <mixnetwork> yepp
12:27 <eddiefantastic> so, what's up with the web page?
12:27 <mixnetwork> can get it working
12:27 <mixnetwork> cann't
12:27 <mixnetwork> lol
12:27 <eddiefantastic> where is it?
12:27 <mixnetwork> http://spacezone.prefer.de/space/ladder_ladle.php
12:30 <eddiefantastic> line 146 $result=mysql_query($query) or die(mysql_error());
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12:30 <mixnetwork> i sse that yes
12:30 <eddiefantastic> change to $result=mysql_query($query, $link) or die(mysql_error());
12:30 <mixnetwork> see
12:31 <eddiefantastic> and at the top, under your user/pass variables add the line:
12:33 <eddiefantastic> $link=mysql_connect($host, $user, $pw);
12:33 <eddiefantastic> mysql_select_db($db);
12:35 <mixnetwork> hmmm
12:35 <mixnetwork> no failure now
12:35 <mixnetwork> but no data
12:36 <eddiefantastic> you specify the $server in ladder_ladle.php?
12:37 <mixnetwork> what is meant by server, the armagetron server or dbase server?
12:37 <eddiefantastic> line 140:     WHERE server=\"ladle\"
12:38 <eddiefantastic> change ladle to whatever you specified in your ladder.php script
12:40 <mixnetwork> ok works
12:42 <eddiefantastic> sort of
12:42 <mixnetwork> ?
12:43 <mixnetwork> updates he automatically?
12:44 <eddiefantastic> no, you have just populated it with old data
12:44 <eddiefantastic> you also need to add this:
12:45 <eddiefantastic> line 57 reads: $limit="GROUP BY player"; change this to:
12:47 <eddiefantastic> $limit="GROUP BY player HAVING total_rounds>=100";
12:47 <eddiefantastic> change the 100 to the minimul rounds needed to be on the ladder
12:47 <eddiefantastic> *minimum
12:48 <eddiefantastic> otherwize 2 good rounds would put you to the top, as you see
12:48 <mixnetwork> lol
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12:48 <Seeker> #weather
12:48 <armabot> Seeker: (weather <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city.
12:48 <Seeker> #weather 21060
12:49 <armabot> Seeker: The current temperature in Baltimore, Maryland is 66.2°F (6:12 AM EDT on August 21, 2007). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 66.2°F. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
12:49 <eddiefantastic> you have a ladder of 1 ;)
12:49 <mixnetwork> now its empty
12:49 <eddiefantastic> reduce it to 50 perhaps?
12:50 <mixnetwork> normally not possible, i have many players which played already more than 100
12:51 <eddiefantastic> did you get any errors when processing ladderlog.txt?
12:51 <eddiefantastic> maybe all the data is not there
12:51 <mixnetwork> no
12:51 <eddiefantastic> ah, it only looks at the last 3 weeks of data
12:51 <mixnetwork> I reduced it to 50 now
12:51 <mixnetwork> but
12:52 <mixnetwork> plastik already payed 10000 rounds and more
12:52 <eddiefantastic> no it doesn't :S
12:52 <mixnetwork> ?
12:53 <eddiefantastic> are you sure that was the whole ladderlog.txt? how large was the file?
12:53 <mixnetwork> 140.112
12:54 <mixnetwork> not many players are in the database, i see that
12:54 <eddiefantastic> That's not very big
12:54 <mixnetwork> hmm
12:55 <eddiefantastic> look at the ladderlog.txt against the webpage, they should mathc
12:55 <eddiefantastic> *match
12:55 <mixnetwork> yes they mach
12:55 <eddiefantastic> just one is more organised ;)
12:55 <mixnetwork> but ladder.txt is much more
12:55 <eddiefantastic> ladder.txt?
12:55 <mixnetwork> won_rounds.txt also
12:56 <mixnetwork> yes, if i call the ladder.txr
12:56 <mixnetwork> txt
12:56 <eddiefantastic> yes, that's the old server ladder
12:56 <mixnetwork> yepp
12:57 <eddiefantastic> you haven't pruned the log files lately?
12:58 <mixnetwork> hmmm, yes i remmeber
12:58 <eddiefantastic> oh
12:58 <eddiefantastic> then that data is lost
12:58 <mixnetwork> i made the ladderlog.txt empty, because he was so big
12:58 <mixnetwork> wa a week ago
12:58 <mixnetwork> :(
12:59 <eddiefantastic> then, that is a week's data ;)
12:59 <eddiefantastic> look at it this way, you have a fresh start ;)
12:59 <mixnetwork> but what is updateing the data in the database, does this goes automatically now?
12:59 <eddiefantastic> no, have you used screen?
12:59 <mixnetwork> nope
13:00 <eddiefantastic> you need to open a new screen session, type: screen -S ladder
13:00 <mixnetwork> so i must do this command cat with screen
13:00 <eddiefantastic> this will open a new screen session called screen
13:00 <eddiefantastic> no, I will come to that
13:01 <mixnetwork> because I start the servers this way with screen
13:01 <eddiefantastic> you have used screen then, good
13:02 <mixnetwork> just with 3 of them
13:02 <mixnetwork> the other one starts as deamon
13:02 <eddiefantastic> you need the following command: tail -f -n0 /path/to/ladderlog.txt | /path/t0/ladder.php
13:02 <eddiefantastic> this will update the database with new data as it happens
13:03 <eddiefantastic> you can then detach from the screen and leave it running
13:03 <mixnetwork> can i start it this way?
13:03 <mixnetwork> screen tail -f -n0 /path/to/ladderlog.txt | /path/t0/ladder.php
13:04 <eddiefantastic> hmm, maybe this way: screen `tail -f -n0 /path/to/ladderlog.txt | /path/t0/ladder.php`
13:04 <eddiefantastic> if you're lucky
13:04 <mixnetwork> lol
13:05 <mixnetwork> is there any way to start this automatically if the server reboots?
13:05 <eddiefantastic> oh, and you can rename the page ladder_ladle.php to whatever.php
13:06 <eddiefantastic> if ^that command works, add it to your startup script
13:06 <mixnetwork> ok
13:07 <mixnetwork> ooops
13:07 <mixnetwork> i cann't access my server anymore over webmin :(
13:09 <eddiefantastic> can't help you there :(
13:12 <mixnetwork> hehe
13:12 <mixnetwork> hmm
13:12 <mixnetwork> this does not work
13:12 <mixnetwork> cat /var/games/armagetronad-dedicated_sb/var/ladderlog.txt | /srv/www/vhosts/prefer.de/subdomains/spacezone/httpdocs/space_3/ladder_sb.php
13:12 <mixnetwork> but this does? what wrong?
13:12 <mixnetwork> cat /var/games/armagetronad-dedicated/var/ladderlog.txt | /srv/www/vhosts/prefer.de/subdomains/spacezone/httpdocs/space/ladder.php
13:13 <eddiefantastic> chmod +x ladder_sb.php?
13:13 <mixnetwork> it is qwritable
13:13 <eddiefantastic> is it executable?
13:14 <mixnetwork> yepp
13:14 <eddiefantastic> what's the error?
13:14 <mixnetwork> none
13:14 <mixnetwork> nothing happens
13:14 <eddiefantastic> cat /var/games/armagetronad-dedicated/var/ladderlog.txt
13:14 <eddiefantastic> what does that do?
13:15 <mixnetwork> that works
13:15 <eddiefantastic> cat /var/games/armagetronad-dedicated_sb/var/ladderlog.txt
13:15 <eddiefantastic> sorry, that one?
13:15 <mixnetwork> yes
13:16 <eddiefantastic> displays the file contents?
13:16 <mixnetwork> yepp
13:16 <eddiefantastic> ls -l /srv/www/vhosts/prefer.de/subdomains/spacezone/httpdocs/space_3/ladder_sb.php
13:16 <eddiefantastic> what does that give you?
13:17 <mixnetwork> -rwxrwxrwx  1 root root 15309 Aug 21 10:58 /srv/www/vhosts/prefer.de/subdomains/spacezone/httpdocs/space_3/ladder_sb.php
13:18 <eddiefantastic> how large is that ladder? maybe it just processed it very quickly?
13:18 <eddiefantastic> have you checked the database?
13:19 <mixnetwork> database is empty
13:20 <eddiefantastic> all you changed on ladder.php->ladder_sb.php is the servername right?
13:21 <mixnetwork> ladder_sb is for the second server, i made a new dbase for that one with new user and pw and i canged it also in the ladder.php
13:22 <mixnetwork> i creazed also the tables in there
13:22 <eddiefantastic> they can all use the same database
13:22 <mixnetwork> oh
13:22 <mixnetwork> really
13:22 <mixnetwork> nice
13:22 <mixnetwork> ok
13:22 <eddiefantastic> they look at the server field to distinguish
13:23 <mixnetwork> ok
13:23 <eddiefantastic> just change that in ladder.php and ladder_ladle.php and you have your 2 set up
13:23 <eddiefantastic> otherwise it'll get messy
13:24 <eddiefantastic> like it isn't already ;)
13:24 <mixnetwork> i have 4
13:25 <mixnetwork> hehe
13:26 <mixnetwork> buit it does not solve my problem now
13:26 <eddiefantastic> with 4 servers, what you could do is have one overall ladder that looks at all 4 servers
13:27 <eddiefantastic> just remove the line where server=\"ladle\"
13:27 <eddiefantastic> in ladder_ladle.php
13:27 <mixnetwork> ah
13:27 <mixnetwork> and than?
13:27 <eddiefantastic> as well as the 4 individual ladder which specify a server
13:28 <mixnetwork> but they mess up than the ladders for each seperate server?
13:28 <eddiefantastic> as long as each server has a different name in ladder.php, no
13:29 <mixnetwork> hmmm
13:29 <mixnetwork> shit, running out of time
13:29 <eddiefantastic> delete ladder_pb.php, copy ladder.php again, only change the server name, run it again
13:29 <mixnetwork> musst go away in a few minutes
13:29 <eddiefantastic> ok
13:29 <mixnetwork> ah ok
13:35 <mixnetwork> ok, must go now, will  try this evening again ;)
13:35 <mixnetwork> thanks in advance
13:36 <eddiefantastic> no problem, good luck
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16:00 <MrBougo> hay
16:00 <MrBougo> i have some GPL notice on some python script
16:00 <MrBougo> i want to modify it
16:01 <MrBougo> it's a ctually a supybot plugin
16:01 <MrBougo> i guess i have to make the source public
16:01 <MrBougo> link to the original
16:01 <MrBougo> keep the original notice
16:01 <MrBougo> but what else do i have to do?
16:06 <MrBougo> Lucifer_arma ?
16:07 <MrBougo> #pingy
16:07 <armabot> pongy
16:08 <luke-jr> MrBougo: you don't have to do any of that
16:08 <MrBougo> so what? :p
16:08 <luke-jr> just leave the notice there
16:08 <luke-jr> and don't send people .pyc without .py
16:09 <luke-jr> that's all
16:10 <MrBougo> oh
16:10 <MrBougo> heh, i didt even know that .pyc existed
16:10 <MrBougo> didnt*
16:11 <MrBougo> krazeyh!
16:13 <luke-jr> easier to just send .py anyway
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17:03 <Lucifer_arma> #pin
17:03 <Lucifer_arma> #ping
17:03 <armabot> pong
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17:44 <mixnetwork> hi
17:44 <mixnetwork> eddi?
17:44 <mixnetwork> there?
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18:04 <ghableska> #weather 50266
18:04 <ghableska> #tea
18:04 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 84.9°F (11:09 AM CDT on August 21, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 71.6°F. Pressure: 28.89 in 978.2 hPa (Rising).  Flash Flood Watch in effect through Wednesday afternoon...
18:04 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: No online players.
18:20  * Lucifer_arma yawns
18:33 <mixnetwork> eddie are you there?
18:45 <Lucifer_arma> haha, I just made it impossible for any ADD person to watch the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy in my house
18:45 <Lucifer_arma> the two series CDs are on blue discs and put in purple cases
18:45 <Lucifer_arma> the movie, however, is on a purple disc in a blue case
18:49 <ghableska> o.0
18:49 <ghableska> #armaservers
18:49 <armabot> ghableska: This data is 49 seconds old; ë | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | ì/xff9900 (15/16), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (13/14), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), >3D> Eternal Destiny Clan Server ~{DF}~ (9/16), Fortress Café (7/32), Norm's Place (5/12), The YELLOW Submarine (5/16), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (3/12), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (3/12), SPACEZONE III (3/15), (1 more message)
18:49 <ghableska> #tea
18:49 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (7/32): Badzilla, hoop, k alf ñ	CT|Tadd, Speedy, ~|DS|~sunny, ¦Ö¦FoFo, ¦×¥ $µazero
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19:01 <ghableska> hey Vanhayes
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19:34 <MrBougo> &part
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19:44 <ToddKitchen> Lucifer_arma: ping
19:44 <Lucifer_arma> ToddKitchen: pong
19:45 <ToddKitchen> ok...i went ahead and installed just kubuntu on this machine...will save the server one for the wired box...anyway...i have the wife's windows box seeing this machine but it asks for a pwd...how do i disable that?
19:47 <Lucifer_arma> don't know :/
19:47 <ToddKitchen> it's the "security = whatever" in smb.conf i think
19:51 <Lucifer_arma> it's been a couple of years since I've setup a samba server, I don't remember anything now
19:52 <ToddKitchen> hrmm
19:52 <ToddKitchen> :/
19:54 <Lucifer_arma> my spindle isn't big enough for all of my star trek discs :(
19:54 <Lucifer_arma> that's a lot of fucking star trek
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19:57 <Stempo> #weather 85747
19:57 <armabot> Stempo: The current temperature in Fast Horse Ranch, Vail, Arizona is 92.7°F (10:59 AM MST on August 21, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: 62.6°F. Pressure: 29.27 in 991.1 hPa (Falling).
20:00 <Stempo> #weather Beaufort
20:00 <armabot> Stempo: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
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20:13 <MrBougo> bye
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20:17 <ghableska> #tea
20:17 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): %, Monkey, schwuli, ~Çögöqt~, ¦Ö¦$µbzero, ¦×¥ FoFo
20:25 <Lucifer_arma> is it twisted to take pleasure in flying a paper airplane through a spider web?
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20:38 <ToddKitchen> grrr
20:43 <ghableska> rrrg
20:54 <ToddKitchen> well...i've got it seeing the box and browsing into the box itself...but i cannot access the printer or the shared folder :/
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20:55 <Lucifer_arma> you do have to make samba users separate from unix users
20:55 <Lucifer_arma> there's a way to sync them, but I don't know it (other than ldap, of course)
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20:58 <ToddKitchen> how do you make samba users?
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21:04 <eddiefantastic> smbpasswd or summit
21:04 <eddiefantastic> iirc you can turn smbpasswd off and it will use system users
21:05 <eddiefantastic> I had it linked into active directory at one stage as a file server for windows users
21:05 <eddiefantastic> but it didn't work out :(
21:06 <eddiefantastic> samba's come a long way since then, I hear it can now act AS an active directory server
21:08 <ToddKitchen> hrmm...i'm having a bit of trouble with it :/
21:09 <eddiefantastic> have you set up samba users?
21:09 <eddiefantastic> by default you have to
21:10 <eddiefantastic> depends on how many users there are whether it's worth changing that
21:10 <ToddKitchen> it tells me it can't modify the smbpasswd file
21:10 <ToddKitchen> it's just a home network
21:10 <ToddKitchen> 3 users tops
21:12 <eddiefantastic> does it need much security?
21:13 <ToddKitchen> no
21:14 <ToddKitchen> just need to be able to see the shares and print to the printer hosted on this box
21:14 <eddiefantastic> you have: guest ok = yes
21:14 <eddiefantastic> on the shares?
21:14 <eddiefantastic> browsable = yes
21:16 <ToddKitchen> yep
21:18 <eddiefantastic> my shares look something like this:
21:18 <eddiefantastic> [films] comment = Get you Movies Here writeable = yes public = yes path = /mymedia/films
21:23 <Lucifer_arma> man, I hate going through piles of unlabeled cds
21:24 <Lucifer_arma> I really need to quit making cds and not marking what they are :/
21:25 <ToddKitchen> the thing that gets me is that i can see the share...i just can't access it on the xp box
21:25 <Lucifer_arma> machine needs a username too
21:26 <ToddKitchen> ?
21:26 <Lucifer_arma> the xp machine needs an account of its own on the server, I think
21:26 <Lucifer_arma> I forget
21:26 <Lucifer_arma> if you know how windows wants things, samba wants 'em that way too, it just doesn't do the automatic negotiation that windows does
21:27 <ToddKitchen> according to all the docs i've read, security = share means that anyone can get to it
21:27 <ToddKitchen> with guest = ok
21:27 <ToddKitchen> errr
21:27 <Lucifer_arma> I'm sorry I don't have more information for you, but this is stuff in my mind's attic, and is therefore hard to reach and probably inaccurate somewhat :)
21:27 <ToddKitchen> guest ok = yes
21:28 <Lucifer_arma> on the flip side, my labyrinth encoding is 57% done
21:28 <Lucifer_arma> er, but it says its still on the first pass.  I hope this thing is done when I get home, so I can burn it (trying to make a 900+MB file into a 700MB file that can be burned)
21:29 <Lucifer_arma> fuck, more unlabeled discs
21:29 <Lucifer_arma> good, they're dirty, so I can just throw 'em away (I'm not cleaning dirty unlabeled discs just to find out they're trash anyway)
21:32 <eddiefantastic> ToddKitchen: you make a guest account in the global config
21:32 <eddiefantastic> ?
21:36 <GodTodd> what do i put there?
21:36 <GodTodd> (same guy different room :))
21:37 <eddiefantastic> guest account = ed
21:37 <eddiefantastic> well, that's what mine says ;)
21:37 <eddiefantastic> pretty sure I set ed up as a smbuser
21:38 <eddiefantastic> smbpasswd -a ed
21:39 <eddiefantastic> iirc it asked for a password
21:40 <eddiefantastic> these are the credentials used by my windows/linux/mac/xbox/slimdevices dotted around my house to access files
21:40 <eddiefantastic> you may need to set the workgroup name too, anything you like
21:40 <ToddKitchen> ok...did that
21:40 <ToddKitchen> i have the workgroup name set up
21:40 <eddiefantastic> restart samba
21:41 <ToddKitchen> it shows the box under the workgroup in xp
21:41 <ToddKitchen> did
21:41 <eddiefantastic> any joy?
21:41 <ToddKitchen> nope :/
21:42 <eddiefantastic> you can see the shares but unable to access the files?
21:42 <ToddKitchen> yep
21:42 <eddiefantastic> did it ask you for a user/pass when you attempted to open them?
21:43 <ToddKitchen> no
21:43 <ToddKitchen> sec and i'll get the gist of the message
21:44 <ToddKitchen> says it's not accessible...you may not have permission to access this network resource...yadda yadda
21:44 <ToddKitchen> http://pastebin.ca/666020
21:44 <ToddKitchen> that's my smb.conf
21:45 <ToddKitchen> it's clunky cuz i'm a noob ;)
21:46 <eddiefantastic> guest account = nobody
21:46 <eddiefantastic> that the sambauser you set up?
21:46 <ToddKitchen> no
21:46 <eddiefantastic> ah, should be
21:46 <ToddKitchen> i set up the todd one in global
21:47 <eddiefantastic> you might want to comment the nobody one out
21:49 <ToddKitchen> k
21:49 <ToddKitchen> did that
21:49 <ghableska> http://wwgame.ytmnd.com/
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21:49 <eddiefantastic> and restart samba each time you change anything
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21:49 <ToddKitchen> yep
21:49 <ToddKitchen> been doing that :)
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21:51 <eddiefantastic> have you tried sambaswat?
21:51 <eddiefantastic> I think that's it's name
21:51 <ToddKitchen> nope
21:52 <eddiefantastic> it's a web frontend that writes the config files for you, you just tell it your shares
21:52 <ToddKitchen> does it work well?
21:52 <Lucifer_arma> sure it's not sambastwat?
21:52 <eddiefantastic> haha
21:53 <eddiefantastic> it's certainly worth a try, it completely rewrites the smb.conf
21:53 <eddiefantastic> my guess is you have a small error, but it's been so long since I configured it
21:54 <ToddKitchen> yeah...i'm so close that it seems it's probably something itty bitty :/
21:55 <ToddKitchen> well...gotta run the oldest to science club...i'll mess with this more later...thanks for the help eddiefantastic :)
21:55 <eddiefantastic> yw
22:02 <ghableska> #weather 50266
22:02 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 91.6°F (3:04 PM CDT on August 21, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 71.6°F. Pressure: 28.85 in 976.9 hPa (Falling).  Flash Flood Watch in effect through Wednesday afternoon...
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22:05 <spidey> ok
22:05 <spidey> fuck a ubuntu server install
22:06 <spidey> i'm getting blank cd's
22:06 <spidey> you have any idea how fucking long aptitude install ubuntu-desktop takes? -.-
22:08 <tramshed> how long?!
22:09 <spidey> to long for me to care to do it again
22:12 <tramshed> hah
22:14 <spidey> D:
22:14 <spidey> now to figure out why xchat-gnome sucks so much =/
22:24 <ghableska> #tea
22:24 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (1/32): -*<y<lo*-
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22:38 <quarg> hello
22:38 <quarg> anyone know how i would know if i am being hacked?
22:39 <quarg> my server keep crashing for some odd reason
22:39 <quarg> i get this message
22:39 <quarg> Error: Error in gSpawnPoint* gArena::LeastDangerousSpawnPoint() in /Users/lee/Desktop/armagetronad- :
22:39 <quarg>         No spawnpoint available!
22:39 <quarg> Segmentation fault
22:42 <eddiefantastic>  /away eat my shorts
22:43 <quarg> eat your own shorts. i have bad digestion
22:46 <ghableska> #crazylate eat your own shorts. i have bad digestion
22:46 <armabot> ghableska: eat its own short circuits that I have bad digestion
22:47 <ghableska> #crazylate eat its own short circuits that I have bad digestion
22:47 <armabot> ghableska: eat its own short circuits that I have bad digestion
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23:30 <tramshed> armabot, j00 has a megahal now?
23:31 <tramshed> #crazylate eat balls botface
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23:31 <armabot> tramshed: eat botface of the balls
23:31 <tramshed> #crazylate tramshed is awesome
23:31 <armabot> tramshed: tramshed is impressive
23:31 <tramshed> hmm
23:32 <tramshed> I dont think you are a megahal
23:32 <tramshed> #crazylate tramshed is impressive
23:32 <armabot> tramshed: tramshed is impressive
23:32 <tramshed> #crazylate tramshed?
23:32 <armabot> tramshed: tramshed?
23:32 <tramshed> nope
23:32 <tramshed> not a hal
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23:45 <Fanchen> hallo?
23:45 <Fanchen> hello
23:46 <Fanchen> can someone help me, I dont know how to play maps other users crested
23:46 <Fanchen> *created
23:49 <Fanchen> answer please  :(
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