Log from 2007-08-01:
--- Day changed Wed Aug 01 2007
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00:37 <P4> http://archi.inos.int.pl/db/item218919426_1.html <=- one of Poles sells his part of our president and prime minister... LOL! but i understand him in 100% i would sell mine part to if i would vote on him...
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01:23 <Lucifer_arma> weee
01:23 <Lucifer_arma> trust the IT guy to have floppies laying around
01:23 <Lucifer_arma> no need to buy any now :)
01:24 <Lucifer_arma> got my switch soldered, now I just need to put the stuff on the floppy drives and maybe sometime tonight the better thin client will be running again :)
02:01 <|Sticky|> how thin is thin??
02:01 <|Sticky|> 100mhz,500,1ghz?
02:02 <Lucifer_arma> I'm intending to flash the bios with the binary that connects to the server and mounts the nfs filesystems
02:02 <Lucifer_arma> 500mhz
02:02 <Lucifer_arma> P2
02:02 <Lucifer_arma> 196MB RAM
02:02 <Lucifer_arma> using ltsp
02:02 <|Sticky|> what about the server
02:02 <Lucifer_arma> 2.8ghz P4
02:03 <|Sticky|> does it run well on a 2.8ghz?
02:03 <|Sticky|> howmany can that serve?
02:03 <Lucifer_arma> I've only got one, and the local console of course
02:03 <|Sticky|> yeah
02:03 <Lucifer_arma> the thin client is my newly designated kids' computer :)
02:03 <|Sticky|> heh
02:03 <Lucifer_arma> and for everything but 3d gaming, the P2 runs just fine
02:03 <Lucifer_arma> they're too young for 3d gaming to be an issue
02:04 <|Sticky|> heh
02:05 <|Sticky|> speaking of which I asked our IT manager for a high end computer today, came back with a quote for $15k workstation that included a 5k gfx card
02:06 <|Sticky|> did have to ask him wtf he thought i was doing that required a 5k gfx card
02:06 <Lucifer_arma> ooo, ask him for another one :)
02:06 <|Sticky|> i was tempted to accept it just to see what it can do
02:06 <spidey> dude
02:07 <spidey> 5k for a gfx card?
02:07 <spidey> most cards that pricey are for professional image/video editing only, and suck for anything else
02:07 <spidey> like ati's firegl card
02:08 <|Sticky|> NVIDIA Quadro FX 5600
02:09 <spidey> 1.5gb gddr3 ftw
02:10 <|Sticky|> yeah
02:10 <spidey> that thing supports a huge resolution O.o
02:10 <spidey> Max Resolution (external): 3840 x 2400:24 Hz \
02:10 <|Sticky|> gets depressing when that gfx card has more processing power and ram than my home pc
02:10 <spidey> haha
02:10 <spidey> has 3x the ram i do ;/
02:11 <spidey> 2x*
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02:12 <Lucifer_arma> er
02:12 <Lucifer_arma> it has more ram than I have in my whole house
02:12 <spidey> haha
02:12 <spidey> lets see
02:12 <spidey> 512+128+256+256+32
02:13 <spidey> that's all the ram in my house =/
02:13 <|Sticky|> i want to get one of these:
02:13 <|Sticky|> http://www.nvidia.com/object/tesla_deskside.html
02:13 <|Sticky|> 1Terra flops of processing power
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02:14 <spidey> ffs
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02:19 <spidey> DrJoeTron, ping
02:20 <|Sticky|> also quite want to try programming the ps3 with its reported 2teraflops
02:21 <DrJoeTron> spidey wut
02:22 <spidey> DrJoeTron, any ideas why steam won't lemme connect?
02:23 <DrJoeTron> nope!
02:23 <DrJoeTron> im sure connected
02:24 <|Sticky|> mabey it decided you were enjoying too many consumer rights so blocked your account without appeal
02:29 <spidey> lol
02:29 <spidey> i play warrock more now adays
02:30 <spidey> i've got 1,700~ kills and 900 deaths
02:30 <spidey> :D
02:30 <Lucifer_arma> I need a cigarette
02:30 <Lucifer_arma> but I'm almost done getting acme to work right
02:30 <Lucifer_arma> even if it still doesn't do anything
02:30 <noob7> I'm looking for a mp3 or whatever of a recording of a modem dialing up to an ISP / BBS / whatever ... any ideas?
02:30 <Lucifer_arma> commons?
02:31 <noob7> :-/
02:31 <Lucifer_arma> if I find you one on commons, you're in trouble
02:32 <noob7> nevermind, I'll just travel back to 1996 and record one myself
02:34 <|Sticky|> noob7: fax machine
02:34 <Lucifer_arma> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Telebit_T2000_Anwahl%2C_Training_und_Ruhelage.ogg
02:35 <noob7> found a pretty nice one on freesound, but I somehow remember my dialup taking way longer :-/ maybe I was just more anxious to get online to play duke3d?
02:36 <Lucifer_arma> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Parallelmodem_-_40_ZSek_-_B2B3.ogg
02:36 <noob7> those are both pretty cool, thanks lucifer... new ringtone found
02:37 <noob7> meh lol
02:38 * noob7 is going to loop the second one, this alarm will wake me for sure
02:39 <Lucifer_arma> that's a good idea
02:40 <Lucifer_arma> remind me to download that on my alarm machine when I get home
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03:19 <spidey> :o
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03:32 <Vanhayes> #weather antigonish
03:32 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
03:32 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
03:32 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 66°F / 19°C | Humidity: 60% | Pressure: 29.85in / 1011hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h | Updated: 10:00 PM ADT; Tonight - Cloudy periods. Fog patches developing near midnight. Low 15C(59F).; Wednesday - Sunny. High 26C(79F). UV index 7 or high. Wednesday night a few clouds. Low 14C(57F).; Thursday - Sunny. High 24C(75F).;
03:32 <Vanhayes> #weather antigonish, ns
03:32 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
03:32 <Vanhayes> bah
03:32 <Vanhayes> #weather halifax
03:32 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 70°F / 21°C | Humidity: 68% | Pressure: 29.83in / 1010hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h | Updated: 10:00 PM ADT; Tonight - Cloudy periods. 60 percent chance of showers early this evening with the risk of a thundershower. Fog patches dissipating overnight. Wind becoming northwest 20 km/h (12 mph) this evening. Low 16C(61F).; (1 more message)
03:33 <Vanhayes> #more
03:33 <armabot> Vanhayes: Wednesday - Sunny. Wind northwest 20 km/h (12 mph) becoming light in the morning. High 26C(79F). UV index 8 or very high. Wednesday night a few clouds. Low 16C(61F).; Thursday - Sunny. High 25C(77F).;
03:33 <Vanhayes> #weather new glasgow
03:33 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
03:34 <Vanhayes> hmm how long does anyone think it would take to hitch hike 400 km?
03:36 <spidey_> stupid cd-rom drive
03:36 <spidey_> the gears keep slipping :(
03:38 <Lucifer_arma> heh, no idea
03:38 <Lucifer_arma> longest distance I ever hitched was a mile
03:38 <Lucifer_arma> and that took half an hour, because nobody would stop
03:39 <spidey_> haha
03:39 <spidey_> i've walked 4 miles in 2 hours
03:39 <spidey_> i didn't walk back either....man them drive me home -.-
03:39 <spidey_> s/man/made
03:40 <spidey_> this cd drive is pissing me off :/
03:40 <Lucifer_arma> heh
03:40 <spidey_> all i wanna do is install swat4 :(
03:40 * Lucifer_arma is considering using his newfound electronics knowledge to rip open all of his cd drives and the player in his car and see if he can fix them
03:41 <spidey_> YAY it opened
03:41 <spidey_> heh
03:41 <spidey_> i just keep pressing the button
03:41 <spidey_> then it usually opens 15 minutes later
03:41 <Lucifer_arma> it's possible I just need to clean some of the cd roms, hmmmmm
03:41 <Lucifer_arma> well, I just fixed my power switch. :)
03:41 <spidey_> FUCK
03:41 <spidey_> i accidently hit it, and it closed
03:41 <Lucifer_arma> one of the leads broke off the pcboard
03:41 <spidey_> so i didn't get to slip the cd in :(
03:41 <Lucifer_arma> haha
03:42 <spidey_> yea
03:42 <spidey_> the right gear track is slipping
03:42 <spidey_> or slipped
03:42 <Lucifer_arma> so I had to solder it back on
03:42 <spidey_> i can feel it
03:42 <Lucifer_arma> before that, the thing would randomly not work, and I couldn't figure out why not
03:42 <spidey_> well
03:43 <spidey_> this one works, the only problem is getting the cd in it
03:43 <Lucifer_arma> just pull the door open
03:43 <spidey_> i can't...
03:43 <Lucifer_arma> why not?
03:43 <spidey_> i've pulled and pulled
03:43 <Lucifer_arma> press the switch and pull
03:43 <spidey_> it just doesn't open till it's ready
03:43 <spidey_> i can't grab it for one
03:43 <Lucifer_arma> then open it, and cut out a slit that's beg enough to slid a cd in :)
03:43 <Lucifer_arma> you don't have a pocket knife?
03:44 <spidey_> not anymore
03:44 <spidey_> my brother decided the wall was a dark board
03:44 * Lucifer_arma can't believe he's having to instruct spidey in the Redneck Force
03:44 <spidey_> so it ended up breaking off in a stub
03:44 <spidey_> s/dark/dart
03:44 <Lucifer_arma> s/stub/stud
03:44 <spidey_> heh
03:45 <Lucifer_arma> just get him drunk so he'll steal another car and go back to jail if he's too much trouble
03:46 <spidey_> heh
03:47 * spidey_ is pondering doing part-time pc repairs
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03:47 <spidey_> hibye
03:52 <Lucifer_arma> that's what I outta do, put an ad on craigslist for pc repairs
03:52 <spidey_> i looked into craigslist
03:53 <spidey_> but the nearest place to me is tricities
03:53 <spidey_> and that's over 40 miles away
03:53 <Lucifer_arma> if you're good, people will come :)
03:53 <Lucifer_arma> there's an austin.craigslist.org for me, though
03:53 <Lucifer_arma> also, for stuff that doesn't require physical presence, any craigslist will do for you
03:54 <spidey_> heh
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04:03 <Vanhayes> hmm
04:03 <Vanhayes> #g 1 + 1
04:03 <armabot> blame google for closing their damn API
04:03 <Vanhayes> heh
04:03 <Vanhayes> #help calc
04:03 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: That command exists in the Google and Math plugins. Please specify exactly which plugin command you want help with.
04:03 <Vanhayes> #google calc 1 + 1
04:03 <armabot> Vanhayes: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
04:04 <Vanhayes> #math calc 1 + 1
04:04 <armabot> Vanhayes: 2
04:04 <Vanhayes> nice
04:04 <Vanhayes> hmm now how to phrase it...
04:07 <Vanhayes> # math calc 397/.5
04:07 <armabot> Vanhayes: 794
04:07 <Vanhayes> # math calc 397/5
04:07 <armabot> Vanhayes: 79.4
04:07 <Vanhayes> # math calc 397/10
04:07 <armabot> Vanhayes: 39.7
04:07 <Vanhayes> # math calc 397/110
04:07 <armabot> Vanhayes: 3.60909090909
04:07 <Vanhayes> # math calc 397/60
04:07 <armabot> Vanhayes: 6.61666666667
04:21 <spidey_> #math calc Vanhayes+Lucifer_arma/luke-jr_work*GodTodd
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04:21 <armabot> spidey_: Error: There's really no reason why you should have underscores or brackets in your mathematical expression. Please remove them.
04:21 <Vanhayes> pwnt
04:32 <mkzelda> http://www.myfoxdfw.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=3913600&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1
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04:51 <Vanhayes> #math calc 8.77 lbs in kg
04:51 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: invalid syntax (line 1)
04:52 <Vanhayes> #math calc 8.77 pounds in kilograms
04:52 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: invalid syntax (line 1)
04:52 <Vanhayes> bah
04:55 <Lucifer_arma> you need python syntax
04:55 <Lucifer_arma> besides, you're trying to convert a force to a mass
04:56 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.google.com/search?q=8.77+lbs+in+kg&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official
04:57 <Vanhayes> ah ok, thanks
04:57 <Vanhayes> hmm think it would do money conversion?
04:57 <Vanhayes> #math calc 31.47 in CAD
04:57 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: 'cad' is not a defined function.
04:59 <Vanhayes> wow, didn't realize our dollar was that high
05:00 <Vanhayes> #math calc 33.56*1.15
05:00 <armabot> Vanhayes: 38.594
05:08 <spidey_> xfiles r pwn joo
05:31 <Vanhayes> i dont know, if luke-jr_ likes something, I am usually wary of it
05:41 <Vanhayes> #night
05:42 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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05:43 * digitx is away (bye)
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06:59 <Stempo> MrBoto <3
06:59 <MrBoto> MrBoto <3 Stempo too :3
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07:03 <DrJoeTron> #serverinfo Shrunk
07:03 <armabot> DrJoeTron: Shrunkland in 2.8.2: No online players.
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07:25 <spidey__> #ping
07:25 <armabot> pong
07:25 <spidey__> wow
07:26 <spidey__> my router sucks donkey nuts
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> your head is shaped like, oh fuck it, I'm not in the mood
07:42 <DrJoeTron> penis
07:42 <DrJoeTron> like a penis
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> aren't most heads shaped like a penis?
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08:23 <Lucifer_arma> z-man: is your head shaped like a penis?
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08:26 <GodTodd> my penis is shaped like a head
08:26 <MrBougo> .
08:27 <MrBougo> did you carve it or something?
08:28 <GodTodd> nope....it came that way
08:28 <MrBougo> blame your parents
08:28 <GodTodd> DrJoeTron's penis is shaped like a vagina
08:31 <MrBougo> isnt it the contrary?
08:31 * MrBougo is now playing: David West - Hello Piano
08:48 <Lucifer_arma> I thought it was shaped more like a clitoris, bracketed by labia
08:52 <MrBougo> how do you know so much things about joe's ahem
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09:15 <Lucifer_arma> what's an ahem?
09:15 <tramshed> ahem
09:15 <tramshed> its a form of cough
09:18 <Lucifer_arma> is it shaped like a penis?
09:19 <tramshed> sometimes
09:19 <tramshed> depends on the mouth it comes out of
09:19 <Lucifer_arma> I feel a new pickup line coming on
09:20 <Lucifer_arma> "Excuse me, but I couldn't help but notice how your mouth is shaped exactly like my penis."
09:20 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Poem <--- Emo extension for mediawiki
09:23 <tramshed> haha
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10:23 <MrBougo> hiho
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10:28 <MrBougo> Mark Ronson - Stop Me (Dirty South Remix)
10:28 <MrBougo> jesus i love this one
10:28 <MrBougo> hi there luci from bed
10:28 <MrBougo> Lucifer_bed or Lucifer_bedroom ?
10:39 <tramshed> har
10:49 <tramshed> wheee
10:49 <tramshed> admin'ing websites sucks
10:49 <tramshed> but this guy said hes gonna payme for it
10:53 <Lucifer_arma> http://labs.google.com/goog411/
10:55 <tramshed> im laggin so bad its not even funny
10:55 <tramshed> I cant load shit
10:55 <Lucifer_arma> I just killed a good ol' American Cockroach using toilet bowl cleaner
10:56 <tramshed> sweet
10:56 <tramshed> im trying to figure out if I have shell access to this guys webhosting
10:56 <MrBougo> haha
10:56 <MrBougo> we dont have such insects here
10:56 <tramshed> because doing shit through the web is a pain in the ass
10:56 <MrBougo> lol tramshed
10:57 <tramshed> Im serious, IM having a bitch of a time trying to rename a file through thier web interface
10:57 <MrBougo> haaaha
10:57 <MrBougo> rofl
10:57 <MrBougo> web interfaces rock
10:57 <tramshed> yeah, its gay
10:57 <MrBougo> what's the hoster?
10:57 <tramshed> when I could just do mv cyberlogo.gif logo_phpBB.gif
10:57 <tramshed> globat
10:57 <MrBougo> hehe
10:57 <tramshed> its a nice package actually
10:58 <tramshed> 1TB/month
10:58 <MrBougo> phew
10:58 <tramshed> yeah, not shabby
10:58 <tramshed> ftp too
10:58 <tramshed> hes already got the ftp stocked up
10:58 * tramshed cant wait for the frickin dsl to show up
10:58 <MrBougo> http://support.globat.com/sc/index.php/Supported_and_Unsupported_Languages
10:59 <MrBougo> Not supported: SSH/Shell Access
10:59 <MrBougo> ack
10:59 <MrBougo> poor you
11:00 <Lucifer_arma> MrBougo: that's why it's called an American Cockroach
11:00 <tramshed> the fucking gimp finally downloaded
11:00 <MrBougo> Lucifer_arma: ....
11:00 <tramshed> gah, thats gay
11:00 <Lucifer_arma> what you have around there is more commonly known as a little-dick belgian cockroach :)
11:00 <MrBougo> there are some cockroaches in aurope
11:00 <MrBougo> but no aerican ones
11:01 <MrBougo> watcha think
11:01 <tramshed> ever see a palmetto bug?
11:01 <tramshed> those things are fucking gigantic
11:01 <tramshed> oh,haha, Im a dumbfuck
11:01 <MrBougo> ?
11:01 <tramshed> theres a rename button right htere
11:02 <MrBougo> lolz
11:02 <MrBougo> "Palmetto Bug", another name for the American cockroach.
11:02 <MrBougo> weee
11:02 <tramshed> it wasnt next to the other file manipulation buttons
11:02 <tramshed> its over by the directory surf buttons
11:02 <MrBougo> American cockroach adults are 1 and 1/2 inches long (38mm).
11:02 <tramshed> that aint a palmetto bug
11:02 <MrBougo> so whats a palmetto bug
11:02 <tramshed> these things are like 5 inches long and can fly
11:03 <MrBougo> wth!
11:03 <tramshed> you see em in florida a lot
11:03 <Lucifer_arma> I don't think the wikipedia article is complete
11:03 <tramshed> you know what im talking about Lucifer_arma ?
11:03 <Lucifer_arma> one thing it fails to mention is that they're commonly known as "water roaches"
11:03 <Lucifer_arma> tramshed: nah, we don't have them in Texas
11:03 <Lucifer_arma> we've got flying roaches, though
11:03 <tramshed> fuckin huge bastards
11:03 <tramshed> I saw one in a bathroom and it freaked me the fuck out
11:03 <Lucifer_arma> but the same roaches we have that fly in Texas generally don't fly when you move farther west
11:04 <tramshed> weird
11:04 <Lucifer_arma> the one I just killed had wings, but they hadn't completely matured, or they were damaged
11:04 <Lucifer_arma> he fell from the ceiling into my bathtub
11:04 <MrBougo> wtf
11:04 <MrBougo> tramshed: this sounds scary :p
11:04 <MrBougo> i hate such insects
11:04 <MrBougo> but... like... 12 centimeters... what the!
11:04 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, in El Paso they've got a real water roach problem, and the fuckers will get up to 2 inches in length and don't have wings
11:05 <MrBougo> i'd run away
11:05 <tramshed> flaming cans of raid do wonders
11:05 <Lucifer_arma> nah, what he's talking about is getting up to eating size
11:05 <tramshed> like shrimp
11:06 <Lucifer_arma> tramshed: are palmetto bugs cockroaches, or something else?
11:06 <Lucifer_arma> we have dragonflies that get pretty big
11:06 <tramshed> Imnot sure
11:06 <tramshed> they look like roaches
11:06 <MrBougo> Lucifer_arma: how big?
11:07 <tramshed> http://www.dudeface.com/pbdefinit.html
11:07 <MrBougo> dragonflies look better than cockraoches heh :p
11:07 <MrBougo> "cute little creepy crawlies" wtf?
11:07 <Lucifer_arma> found that one
11:07 <Lucifer_arma> they're definitely cockroaches
11:07 <Lucifer_arma> so yeah, we have the same things, but apparently they don't get as large here as in florida
11:07 <tramshed> big fuckers though
11:08 <tramshed> creepy large
11:08 <Lucifer_arma> MrBougo: I've seen dragonflies approaching 6 inches in length easily, with really huge wingspans
11:08 <Lucifer_arma> fuckers are beautiful
11:08 <MrBougo> wtf
11:08 <tramshed> dragonflies are cool as fuck
11:08 <MrBougo> but what about giant ones
11:08 <tramshed> europe just has small bugs
11:08 <tramshed> face it
11:10 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
11:10 <Lucifer_arma> even our butterflies are huge
11:11 <Lucifer_arma> I've seen 'em bigger than my hand :)
11:11 <MrBougo> aww
11:11 <MrBougo> http://www.metacafe.com/watch/80129/christmas_island_red_crabs/
11:11 <MrBougo> this looks awful
11:11 <MrBougo> rofl
11:11 <MrBougo> butterflies are cute
11:11 <Lucifer_arma> if all else fails and we're stuck in a bunker during a nuclear war, when we go on the surface, we'll survive in america because our cockroaches are huge
11:11 <MrBougo> if you dont look too close
11:11 <Lucifer_arma> and europeans will starve, those sorry fuckers
11:11 <MrBougo> err why?
11:11 <Lucifer_arma> nah, butterflies are awesome
11:12 <MrBougo> i dont get it :p
11:12 <Lucifer_arma> because your cockroaches are too small :)
11:13 <Lucifer_arma> I watched a cat catch a grasshopper last night
11:13 <MrBougo> there is no relation between cockroaches and nuclear wars heh
11:13 <Lucifer_arma> yeah there is. They're the only thing on the surface that'll survive :)
11:13 <MrBougo> hha makes me remember
11:13 <MrBougo> there was a cat once
11:13 <MrBougo> i caught a grasshopper and gave it to him
11:13 <Lucifer_arma> the grasshopper was probably big enough that the cat had to take a nap afterwards
11:13 <MrBougo> so he could play
11:13 <MrBougo> the fucker ate it
11:13 <Lucifer_arma> and he ate it
11:13 <Lucifer_arma> yep
11:13 <MrBougo> rofl
11:13 <tramshed> my cat tries to catch deer and shit
11:13 <tramshed> its hilarious
11:13 <Lucifer_arma> haha
11:13 <MrBougo> thought that he was smelling it
11:14 <tramshed> it can get up to squirrels so far successfully
11:14 <Lucifer_arma> nah, cats mostly survive on insects
11:14 <MrBougo> and then there was no more grasshopper
11:14 <Lucifer_arma> I watched a cat stalk a snake a few years back
11:14 <MrBougo> huh
11:14 <MrBougo> what kind of snake?
11:14 <Lucifer_arma> it was one of those texas brown snakes, not poisonous and not terribly large
11:14 <MrBougo> oh ok
11:15 <Lucifer_arma> he caught the tail and started pulling and the snake whipped around and bit him
11:15 <MrBougo> aww
11:15 <Lucifer_arma> then the two ran like hell from each other, it was funnier than shit :)
11:16 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.spidy.goliathus.com/english/gallery-cockroaches.php
11:16 <tramshed> haha
11:19 <MrBougo> what about flies?
11:19 <MrBougo> ours are tiny
11:19 <MrBougo> like one centimeter
11:19 <MrBougo> less
11:19 <MrBougo> some are 1.5
11:19 <MrBougo> a bit bigger
11:19 <tramshed> hah
11:19 <tramshed> ever see a horsefly?
11:19 <MrBougo> nope
11:20 <tramshed> usually around an inch or so
11:20 <tramshed> sometimes bigger
11:20 <MrBougo> wtf!
11:20 <tramshed> bite like a motherfucker too
11:20 <MrBougo> oh yes there
11:20 <MrBougo> these*
11:20 <MrBougo> yep, i've seen some
11:20 <MrBougo> i've never been bit
11:21 <MrBougo> most of the time they are near water
11:22 <Lucifer_arma> horseflies are bloodsuckers
11:22 <MrBougo> i've never seen horseflies in belgium though
11:23 <Lucifer_arma> we get them here every now and then
11:23 <MrBougo> :(
11:23 <MrBougo> i hate insects
11:23 <tramshed> we get some nasty mosquitos in some parts too
11:23 <MrBougo> i love belgium
11:23 <tramshed> alaska is particularly bad
11:23 <MrBougo> aww
11:23 <MrBougo> mosquitos dont like my blood
11:23 <MrBougo> they prefer my mom's
11:23 <tramshed> alaskan mosquitos would
11:24 <MrBougo> so i have no problem with them
11:24 <Lucifer_arma> aha, apparently only the females are bloodsuckers
11:25 <Lucifer_arma> mosquitoes keep their distance from me, too
11:25 <MrBougo> yup
11:25 <Lucifer_arma> my sister did an informal study and determined it was an inherited trait, somehow. Every person she asked that was blood-related said the same thing,
11:25 <Lucifer_arma> but she couldn't isolate where they came from one more generation up
11:26 <Lucifer_arma> but since we only share a mother biologically, it was easy to determine that we get it from her :)
11:26 <MrBougo> hehe
11:26 <MrBougo> or from your education maybe
11:26 <MrBougo> maybe it depends of what you eat and stuff
11:26 <Lucifer_arma> at least one of my kids has been observed being avoided by mosquitoes, so that's good :)
11:26 <MrBougo> they sometimes bite me, though
11:26 <tramshed> mosquitos around here dont care who you are
11:26 <MrBougo> but not so often
11:26 <tramshed> they eat you
11:27 <Lucifer_arma> my wife and I eat the same stuff, and she gets bit all the time
11:27 <MrBougo> oh
11:27 <tramshed> swamps=ubersquitos
11:27 <MrBougo> aw
11:27 <Lucifer_arma> I'll be out there all by myself, not being bothered at all
11:27 <Lucifer_arma> first mosquitos hit her, then some will come after me, but it's like 10:1 hit her compared to me
11:27 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, mosquitoes need standing water to breed, so you get lots of them in florida :)
11:28 <tramshed> im not in florida
11:29 <tramshed> im right on lake michigan, the glaciers really ripped this place to shreds passing through, so we have lots of low spots that swamp out
11:29 <tramshed> you see literal swarms of mosquitos
11:29 <MrBougo> how do you call that stuff where you put concrete in
11:30 <MrBougo> so it doesnt solidify
11:30 <tramshed> the big trucks?
11:30 <MrBougo> nah
11:30 <MrBougo> the little things
11:30 <tramshed> fuck if I know
11:30 <MrBougo> they look like the big thing on the truck
11:30 <MrBougo> that's spinning
11:32 <tramshed> noclue
11:35 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mwaterbags.html
11:35 <Lucifer_arma> cement mixer?
11:35 <MrBougo> maybe
11:35 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.google.com/search?q=cement+mixer
11:36 <MrBougo> thats it :)
11:36 <MrBougo> thank you
11:36 <MrBougo> well, mosquitos like that
11:36 <tramshed> haha
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11:38 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.homehumor.com/masonry/cement-mixer.shtml
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11:50 <Fonkay> anyone here?
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13:28 <epsy> hi
13:40 <epsy> jeez
13:40 <epsy> why does arma group zones by where guys spawn, and not the spawn points themselves
13:41 <epsy> i mean...i made a map, and when there's a 2nd player on 1 team, the two zones at the middle of the map goes for the team who has that 2nd player
13:41 <epsy> and so it's screwed up
13:41 <epsy> :/
13:42 <epsy> i think i'ill move the spawn points a little bit more away
13:54 <noob7> now that the summer holidays started in germany, I get like 5 times as many spam mails :(
13:54 <epsy> O_o
13:54 <noob7> damn kids *shakes fist*
13:54 <noob7> no I do NOT want to invest in penny stocks
13:54 <noob7> I got a penny sock I invest in
13:55 <noob7> hay epsy :D
13:55 <epsy> orly?
13:55 <epsy> hay
13:55 <noob7> yes I do :-/
13:56 <noob7> warum sprichst du nicht deutsch mit mir epsy? :D alex meinte, du sprichst auch deutsch!
13:56 <epsy> :P
13:56 <noob7> I also learned that you are about 20cm smaller than I am
13:56 <epsy> O_o
13:56 * noob7 snickers
13:58 <noob7> is epsy on the phone? :p
13:58 <epsy> erm???
13:59 <epsy> what are you fucking talking about ? i really don't get you
13:59 <noob7> just babbling, sorry :-/
13:59 <noob7> btw, how did you manage to crash the server yesterday?
14:00 <epsy> i just entered in and my client was freezing
14:00 <epsy> i kill the client
14:00 <noob7> the server died as well
14:00 <epsy> then get back on the srv list
14:00 <epsy> and it can't join that server
14:00 <epsy> *couldn't
14:01 <noob7> weird... I used the exact lines in the config you pasted me via msn
14:01 <epsy> bofh
14:02 <epsy> i can still use !delire !nodelire for such tests
14:02 <noob7> true
14:02 <epsy> all my other servers are fucked
14:02 <noob7> but then I can't AK you :D
14:02 <epsy> ...no login and admin xD
14:02 <noob7> hm
14:02 <epsy> AK ?
14:02 <noob7> admin kill
14:03 <epsy> nonono, /login, /logout, /admin are wiped out of the source
14:03 <noob7> huh? lol
14:04 <epsy> for the !delire !nodelire thingy i had to do that
14:05 <epsy> where's the res repo now -.-
14:05 <epsy> luke-jr_work, ??????
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18:31 <epsy> *hmpf*
18:32 <MrBougo> ?
18:32 <epsy> have an idea how a map can crash arma ?
18:33 * epsy runs on the w3c xml validator
18:50 <epsy> http://www.validome.org/xml/validate/?lang=en&viewSourceCode=1&url=http://epsy.is-a-geek.or
18:50 <epsy> g:4539/armamaps/epsy/fortress/bunker-gameplaytest1.aamap.aamap.xml
18:50 <epsy> O_o
18:50 <epsy> http://www.validome.org/xml/validate/?lang=en&viewSourceCode=1&url=http://epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539/armamaps/epsy/fortress/bunker-gameplaytest1.aamap.aamap.xml
18:50 <epsy> nice typo ....
18:50 <epsy> <Zone effect="fotress">
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19:12 <epsy> does arma have a time out on downloading resources ?
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19:13 <MrBougo> HOLA
19:13 <epsy> ALOH
19:13 <MrBougo> COMO ESTA?
19:13 <epsy> ?ATSE OMOC
19:14 <MrBougo> ERKCUS LATOT A IM
19:14 <epsy> the main repo is fucking down
19:14 <MrBougo> wrong answer
19:14 <MrBougo> MI*
19:14 * epsy didn't care
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19:15 * MrBougo ah
19:15 * MrBougo oh
19:15 <MrBougo> MrBoto <3
19:15 * epsy ih
19:15 <MrBoto> MrBoto <3 MrBougo too :3
19:15 <MrBougo> he sure does!
19:15 <MrBougo> pushmectf
19:15 <MrBougo> i saw the simpson the movie today
19:16 <MrBougo> nice one
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19:26 <MrBougo> MrBoto <3
19:26 <MrBoto> MrBoto <3 MrBougo too :3
19:33 <epsy> MrBoto, tu peux venir sur mon serveur de tests ?
19:33 <MrBoto> epsy: Error: "tu" is not a valid command.
19:35 <epsy> MrBougo,
19:35 <MrBougo> ?
19:36 <MrBougo> lol
19:36 <MrBougo> non, occupé
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20:08 <MrBougo> mrboto
20:08 <MrBougo> mrboto hello
20:08 <MrBoto> Hi there >:DDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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20:47 <mkzelda> Anyone know a good win32 program to lock down a kiosk machine?
20:47 <mkzelda> i need to disable access to everything but 2 webpages in IE
20:47 <mkzelda> http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/Utilities/Access_Control_Utilities/Internet_Kiosk_Pro.html
20:48 <mkzelda> something like that
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22:19 <Lucifer_arma> any reason you're not using kde for the kiosk machine?
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22:45 <mkzelda> yeah, its a .gov
22:46 <mkzelda> its part of a win domain and such
22:46 <mkzelda> i proposed it, it got shut down
22:46 <mkzelda> that program actually worked as needed
22:46 <mkzelda> shot down i mean
22:46 <mkzelda> theres a kiosk plugin to firefox as well
22:47 <mkzelda> the admin doesnt know anything about linux
22:47 <mkzelda> so, i had to work w/ what he had
22:47 <mkzelda> i got contracted out for the job
22:47 <mkzelda> and its not my dime, so if they want to use existing headaches that take 2x+ the time, then so be it, i get paid more
22:48 <mkzelda> thanks taxpayers
22:49 <mkzelda> we also dont push windows update for the domain, we individually windows update all 50+ machines
22:49 <mkzelda> and the .gov likes it b/c we actually give 1on1 time w/ each machine
22:50 <mkzelda> so if something were blatantly wrong or if hardware needs upgraded, we're more likely to notice than if we just pushed updates
22:52 <|Sticky|> heh dosent sound very cost effective tho, manualy updating 50 machines just incase 1 is broken
22:52 <mkzelda> cost effective doesnt mean much to government agencies
22:52 <|Sticky|> heh
22:52 <mkzelda> they have taxpayer money, they dont care
22:53 <mkzelda> i need to find some solution to VPN into a sonicwall firewall appliance via linux
22:53 <mkzelda> having to do my remote work on a windows machine sux
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22:54 <|Sticky|> whats sonicwall??
22:54 <mkzelda> sonicwall makes hardware firewall for lan
22:54 <|Sticky|> ahh
22:54 <mkzelda> http://www.sonicwall.com/us/
22:55 <mkzelda> and provides a vpn, that you can go to https://ip and then using IE u can enable an activex plugin that will create a vpn session
22:55 <mkzelda> so then i can remote desktop to the kiosk
22:55 <mkzelda> since its a 10. addy
22:55 <|Sticky|> hmm
22:56 <mkzelda> http://gentoo-wiki.com/Relakks i might be able to loosely follow that guide
22:57 <mkzelda> i want a relakks account
22:58 <|Sticky|> sounds like tor
23:03 <mkzelda> yeah, but instead of a communist style that makes everything slow you pay for some speed
23:04 <mkzelda> i imagine it'd make a lot of torrents faster, since most the fast seeds are in EU, and those seeds would send to the relakks in .SE, and then come to you
23:04 <mkzelda> rather than all of those people sending across the pond
23:05 <mkzelda> i mean assumining 'you' is someone in the US like me
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23:14 <Lucifer_arma> well, I just setup ltsp and it's really nice :)
23:14 <Lucifer_arma> now if I can just get sound going....
23:14 <Lucifer_arma> I've got it on a boot floppy now, still thinking about flashing the bios
23:14 <Lucifer_arma> I have to track down a bios upgrade for that machine, but since I don't trust floppies, I need to do it
23:15 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, you can configure your ltsp client to run rdesktop and use a windows terminal services machine
23:15 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know how well (or if at all) rdesktop supports local hardware, though
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00:13 <luke-jr_work> epsy ?????
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00:30 <loserbar> to
00:30 <loserbar> hi
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01:20 <loserbar> anyone here today
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01:22 <Lucifer_arma> yes
01:22 <loserbar> well then
01:22 <loserbar> that answers that
01:23 <Lucifer_arma> any more questions?
01:23 <loserbar> how are you doing?
01:24 <Lucifer_arma> good, and you?
01:24 <loserbar> im well
01:26 <loserbar> noticed today that the new svn borks
01:26 <loserbar> but thats to be expected
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01:35 <Lucifer_arma> http://technocrat.net/d/2007/8/1/24071
01:37 <loserbar> haha well itd give us more reason to keep shoving corn down our throats
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03:00 <Vanhayes> well in about 12 hours I start hitching to evolve, hopefully it won't take longer than 10 hours to get there, or I'll be too tired to do anything that night
03:01 <Lucifer_arma> you'll need to average more than 40km/h
03:01 <Lucifer_arma> you did say it was 400km away, right?
03:02 * Lucifer_arma wonders what resolution he should be aiming for for these videos
03:02 <Vanhayes> 397 so ya 400 km
03:02 <Lucifer_arma> so you'll need to average more than 25mph
03:02 <Lucifer_arma> (for us americans ;P )
03:02 <Vanhayes> lots of people on the highway so it shouldnt be too difficult to get picked up
03:03 <Lucifer_arma> as you get closer, you should find people going to the same place a lot easier, too
03:03 <Lucifer_arma> be careful, though. Hitchhiking isn't the safest pursuit, even if it's not as dangerous as some people try to make it out to be
03:04 <Vanhayes> ya, we are going to start by having a sign with moncton on it, then when we get to moncton another sign to the next city/town and so on
03:06 <Vanhayes> heh, ive had a few close calls with hitchhiking, I carry a little knife now so that if shit goes bad I just take it out and say stop the fucking car and let me out
03:06 <Vanhayes> but since this will be in the daytime I dont think I'll have any problems
03:09 <Vanhayes> hmm then again ill be on shrooms on the way up, so I should give the knife to the other guy
03:09 <Lucifer_arma> haha
03:09 <Lucifer_arma> "Stop the fucking car or your little smurf friend gets the knife!"
03:09 <Vanhayes> hahaha
03:10 <Lucifer_arma> I don't think I'm going to rescale thse movies
03:10 <Vanhayes> what movies?
03:10 <Lucifer_arma> they're shot at 320x240, so rescaling is only useful to make them bigger
03:10 <Lucifer_arma> movies made here in the lab to show some of the demos
03:11 <Lucifer_arma> one particular demo requires a fair amount of tweaking to get it right, so the lab tech and I agreed we'd be better off making a movie for instructors to sue
03:11 <Lucifer_arma> *use
03:11 <Lucifer_arma> they're welcome to use the demo itself, of course, but it will suck up class time and not really show the concept, and we have a movie that shows the concept in 5 seconds :)
03:12 <Lucifer_arma> so I just need a little script that converts them to mpeg, and then I'll copy them to my card and put them on the mac and email the lab tech that I've done so
03:12 <tramshed> balls
03:12 <tramshed> Just wanted to let that be known
03:13 <Lucifer_arma> happy ball/sad ball :)
03:13 <tramshed> just balls
03:13 <tramshed> not even magical fluffy nuts
03:13 <Lucifer_arma> wow, the class just let out. Everyone finished their tests in 2.5 hours, amazingly enough
03:14 <tramshed> im off to play some vendetta
03:20 * digitx is away (bye)
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06:41 <Lucifer_arma> did anybody see that bridge that collapsed in Minnesota?
06:42 <tramshed> Im talking to someone who lives there
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07214/806353-84.stm
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> I love how every little accident has to include text that says "There appears to be no terrorism involved" or something ot that effect
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> "This doesn't appear to be caused by niggers/communists/atheists/whatever"
06:45 <tramshed> haha
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> my wife said that the bridge had been inspected a year ago and determined structurally unsound, and work to repair it had only started a few months ago and was going on when it collapsed
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> but I can't seem to find any news articles to corroborate that
06:49 <tramshed> dunno
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> found one that said the bridge had a clean bill of health in 2005 and 2006 when investigated
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> Google is awesome: At least seven dead in bridge collapse...Rumsfeld denies coverup ... KXMC
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> who needs talk radio when you've got google?
07:00 <tramshed> lol
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.kxmb.com/News/149057.asp <--- looks like my wife was smoking something
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07:23 <xfroggy> Meh I get delivered lately, I just heard about the bridge :/
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22175856-2,00.html <-- wow, incompetent pilots?
07:26 <xfroggy> alot of plane crashes lately, I think it was last week that 2 different planes crashed in two different locations during flight shows
07:26 <xfroggy> :S
07:44 <spidey> u
07:47 <spidey> 4runner - cain's blood
07:47 <spidey> o;
07:49 <spidey> "splended" is the WORST suger you can use to make tea
07:50 <spidey> it totally ruined how i look at sweet tea
07:50 <tramshed> hah
07:50 <tramshed> I just found a picture of the reason all my stuff got stolen when I got locked up
07:50 <tramshed> http://erowid.org/plants/show_image.php?i=mushrooms/psilocybe_cubensis_dried2.jpg
07:51 <spidey> ...
07:51 <GodTodd> spidey: you meean splenda?
07:51 <tramshed> I owed dude some money for those, and he got shitty
07:51 <tramshed> didnt even owe him that much
07:51 <spidey> GodTodd, yes
07:51 <GodTodd> besides....tea shouldn't have sugar at all
07:52 <spidey> sweet tea > regular tea
07:52 <spidey> 2 cups of sugar per gallon = the pwn
07:52 <GodTodd> sweet tea < dog shit imo :)
07:53 <spidey> dog shit > GodTodd
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> dog shit > most things
07:53 <GodTodd> dog shit rules
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> turd > all
07:54 * GodTodd lloves thee smell of a semi-fresh dog turd when the lawnmower blade cuts it in half
07:55 <spidey> horse shit > dog shit > Lucifer_arma_shit
07:55 <Lucifer_arma> spidey needs to spend more time at church, clearly he doesn't know his turds
07:55 <spidey> lol
07:55 <Lucifer_arma> whatever happened to ghableska, anyway?
07:56 <spidey> shable ska?
07:56 <spidey> ghable ska*
07:56 <Lucifer_arma> man, I so want to play freeciv
07:56 <Lucifer_arma> but I really don't
07:56 <spidey> i haven't played in ages
07:56 <spidey> i'd be up for a game :D
07:56 <Lucifer_arma> I want to setup a line of subs again
07:56 <Lucifer_arma> NO! no freeciv!
07:57 <spidey> yes!
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> I've never fiended over arma like this, what gives?
07:57 <spidey> actually
07:57 <GodTodd> church? holy shit? :)
07:57 <spidey> if you had windows you could play games that make freeciv look like childs play :p
07:57 <GodTodd> freeciv is a guilty little pleasure...
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> well, there's no lab tomorrow night, I just have to help this girl setup a lab she's doing in advance of Monday and Tuesday
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> so I could ssh into my box at home and run a little freeciv server
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> NO! NO FREECIV! grrrrrr
07:58 <spidey> just a weee wittle game!?
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> THERE AIN'T NO SUCH THING!
07:58 <spidey> LOL
07:59 <spidey> i need to figure out what fucking compression method these guys used
07:59 <tramshed> ?
07:59 <GodTodd> TANSTAALFG
07:59 <spidey> grand theft auto san adreas... .rar = 619mb installed = 4.22GB
07:59 <tramshed> oh
07:59 <tramshed> probably uha
07:59 <tramshed> uha is hardcore, but slow as fuck
07:59 <Lucifer_arma> man, I just farted the smelliest fart ever
08:00 <GodTodd> bullshit
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> seriously
08:00 <GodTodd> i own those
08:00 <GodTodd> :)
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> no, you couldn't compete with this one
08:00 <GodTodd> i cleared a room once in a factory i worked at...
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> maybe you could get more area effect, but this one has all the stench in it
08:01 * spidey looks at his desktop and sighs
08:01 <GodTodd> nothing like the sight of terrified philipinos lurching to their feet and running out of the room like its on fire
08:01 <spidey> this thing is like another storage folder
08:01 <tramshed> hah
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> I'm glad this was a little fart, otherwise we'd probably need a hazmat team to clean up the living room
08:02 <spidey> rofl
08:03 <GodTodd> course...my one year old more than once has had us fetching diapers only to discover a clean diaper and really really relieved toddler
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> those are awesome
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> the only farts more genuinely awesome than those are the ones where you grab the kid and swing him around, and as his butt becomes the highest part of his body right near your face,
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> the air bubbles just leak out
08:04 <GodTodd> although....probably the best fart i ever had was at comp usa
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> if it didn't distress babies so much, I'd recommend turning them on their heads when they have gas
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> but while that may relieve the gas, they probably cry louder after that than before
08:05 <GodTodd> day after thanksgiving sale shopping with my mother in law....held that fucker for like 4 hours....when it came out...we were suddenly the only two in the line....
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> my favorite fart ever was in my physics class last spring
08:05 <GodTodd> wimps
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> it was a really loud toot, and completely odorless
08:05 <GodTodd> mine are usually the complete opposite
08:05 <spidey> grrr
08:05 <spidey> i'm compressing slower than i download -.-
08:06 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, mine are usually not very noisy, that's why that one was my favorite
08:06 <Lucifer_arma> if only it could have lasted longer, I'd have tried to play a tune with it
08:06 <GodTodd> haha
08:06 <Lucifer_arma> but it echoed off the walls like it was
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08:07 <Lucifer_arma> since I was in the middle of the class, the only person besides me who could definitively identify the source was a guy sitting next to me
08:07 <GodTodd> my wife gets this look on her face that's awesome when we have raw onions....there's something in my genes that makes raw onions rot on contact with my stomach or something....and both boys inherited it :)
08:07 <Lucifer_arma> and maybe the instructor
08:07 <Lucifer_arma> haha
08:08 <GodTodd> that's how i get my locally famous "whopper fart"
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> I've been having some beautiful farts the last few weeks
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> stinking up the lab at least once a week with them
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> we've got ventilation in there
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> real nice area effect, but not terribly strong
08:09 <GodTodd> that sucks
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> but totally quiet
08:09 <GodTodd> i like to share the glory that comes out of my butt
08:09 <GodTodd> that's why they're noisy and smelly....so everyone can enjoy them :)
08:12 <Lucifer_arma> http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/photo_biginizer.html?pid=854638&pd=070801
08:14 <GodTodd> that the bridge in minnesota?
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> that was the bridge in minnesota
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> now it's the debris in minnesota
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-35W_Mississippi_River_Bridge
08:17 <Lucifer_arma> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:I-35W_bridge_collapse_TLR1.jpg
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> what's the weather been like at that bridge?
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08:21 <Lucifer_arma> the wikipedia picture looks like the bridge broke at just a few joints
08:24 <GodTodd> The Twins announced that their scheduled home game for Thursday night (August 2) against the Royals would be postponed <--- game was actually supposed to be tomorrow afternoon iirc
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> A 2001 Mn/DOT report indicates weakness at the joints of the steel that held the concrete deck above the river.[16] According to a witness on Fox News Channel who had driven onto the bridge prior to its collapse, there were holes on the road deck as repair of the bridge deck was in progress.
08:26 <GodTodd> yeah...just read that
08:30 <GodTodd> wonder if the same engineers keeping an eye on the NOLA levees oversaw that bridge
08:30 <GodTodd> ;)
08:37 <Lucifer_arma> probably :)
08:37 <Lucifer_arma> rather, it doesn't really matter
08:37 <Lucifer_arma> my wife said "nothing lasts forever" when we were watching the tail end of the coverage on the news, to which I added "except government incompetence"
08:41 <GodTodd> that's pretty redundant...
08:49 <Lucifer_arma> say that again?
08:50 <Lucifer_arma> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e9/I35W_Bridge.jpg
08:55 <GodTodd> hrmm....series convergence
08:55 <GodTodd> i hate memorizing :/
08:59 <Lucifer_arma> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnehaha_Falls
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09:41 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE0H-NFupqY
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11:44 <epsy> hi
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12:50 <MrBougo> hihoo
12:50 <MrBougo> &hello
12:50 <MrBoto> Hi there >:DDDDDDDDDDDDDD
12:55 <epsy> O_o
12:55 <epsy> &echo #echo &echo #echo O_o
12:55 <MrBoto> #echo &echo #echo O_o
12:55 <armabot> &echo #echo O_o
12:55 <MrBoto> #echo O_o
12:55 <armabot> O_o
12:59 <MrBougo> amen
12:59 <MrBougo> mrboto </3
12:59 <MrBoto> D": D"""":
13:00 <MrBougo> #echo [ignore]
13:00 <MrBougo> :)
13:00 <MrBougo> #help ignore
13:00 <armabot> MrBougo: (ignore requires no arguments) -- Does nothing. Useful sometimes for sequencing commands when you don't care about their non-error return values.
13:02 <MrBougo> &more
13:02 <MrBoto> MrBougo: expire.
13:02 <MrBougo> xD
13:03 <MrBougo> &admin ignore add armabot
13:03 <MrBoto> MrBougo: The operation succeeded.
13:03 <MrBougo> &echo #echo &echo haha
13:03 <MrBoto> #echo &echo haha
13:03 <armabot> &echo haha
13:03 <MrBougo> :))))
13:04 <epsy> &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo \\\\\\\\\[ignore\\\\\\\\\]
13:04 <MrBoto> epsy: Error: "ignore\\\\\\\\\" is not a valid command.
13:04 <epsy> grr
13:04 <epsy> &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo \\\\\\\\\\[ignore\\\\\\\\\\]
13:04 <MrBoto> epsy: Error: "ignore\\\\\\\\\\" is not a valid command.
13:05 <MrBougo> lolz
13:05 <MrBougo> ????
13:05 <epsy> aaa
13:05 <MrBougo> roffles
13:05 <epsy> &echo "#echo "&echo "#echo "&echo [ignore]""""
13:06 <MrBougo> wont work...
13:06 <MrBougo> "&admin ignore add armabot"
13:06 <MrBougo> <MrBoto> MrBougo: The operation succeeded.
13:06 <epsy> =(
13:20 <P4> MrBougo: i see you got an account @ phoenix network. can you login and try to add new account? (http://www.phoenix-network.org/accounts.php?a=create <=- i got 404 here :|)
13:20 <P4> i can see*
13:22 <MrBougo> P4: 404
13:22 <P4> :|
13:23 <P4> thank you
13:46 <P4> .whereisaho
13:46 <tronner> P4: Mac_Abra has last been seen on Norm's Place 22 hours 18 minutes ago.
13:59 <MrBougo> cyas
13:59 <epsy> cu
13:59 <MrBougo> wtf p4
13:59 <epsy> wtf ftw
14:02 <MrBougo> .whereisaho
14:02 <epsy> .wtfftw
14:02 <MrBougo> .help
14:02 <MrBougo> :(((
14:03 <MrBougo> say goodbye to mrboto
14:03 <MrBougo> MrBoto <3
14:03 <MrBoto> MrBoto <3 MrBougo too :3
14:03 <MrBougo> MrBoto Quit
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14:03 <MrBougo> bye
14:03 <MrBougo> .quit
14:03 <MrBougo> opops
14:03 <epsy> cu
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14:24 <P4> Monkey_arma hi
14:24 <P4> http://pewebdic2.cw.idm.fr/ <=- type Pole there and take a look at 1st noun
14:24 <P4> Pole [countable]
14:24 <P4> SAN someone from Poland
14:24 <P4> ;)
14:24 <P4> chech polish then
14:25 <Monkey_arma> Po?lish /?po?l??/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[poh-lish] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
14:25 <Monkey_arma> ?adjective
14:25 <Monkey_arma> 1. of, pertaining to, or characteristic of Poland, its inhabitants, or their language.
14:25 <Monkey_arma> ?noun
14:25 <Monkey_arma> 2. a Slavic language, the principal language of Poland. Abbreviation: Pol
14:25 <Monkey_arma> [Origin: 1695?1705; Pole + -ish1]
14:25 <Monkey_arma> Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
14:25 <Monkey_arma> Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, ? Random House, Inc. 2006.
14:25 <P4> "Carla's writing has potential, but it lacks polish."
14:26 <Monkey_arma> Polish versus polish
14:26 <Monkey_arma> you are not polish
14:26 <P4> i never use polish talking about people that live in poland, i use Pole
14:26 <Monkey_arma> you ARE Polish
14:26 <Monkey_arma> Pole is a noun
14:26 <Monkey_arma> Polish is the vervb
14:26 <Monkey_arma> verb
14:26 <Monkey_arma> identical meaning
14:26 <P4> verb, LOL!
14:26 <Monkey_arma> adjective
14:26 <Monkey_arma> lol
14:26 <P4> yea
14:26 <Monkey_arma> im tired
14:26 <P4> adjective
14:27 <P4> anyway use Pole not Polish
14:27 <P4> if you speak you cannot hear capital letters
14:27 <P4> then it souds like i am a thing from poland not a person from pooland
14:28 <P4> look here
14:28 <P4> 2. a Slavic language, the principal language of Poland. Abbreviation: Pol
14:28 <P4> 02Aug07 143751 <Monkey_arma> [Origin: 1695?1705; Pole + -ish1]
14:28 <P4> Pole+ish ;)
14:28 <Monkey_arma> in English, which is what I am speaking in, Polish is the correct word
14:28 <P4> but Pole is correct too :)
14:28 <Monkey_arma> Pole is correct also...if you want to use a noun
14:29 <Monkey_arma> if you want to use adjective..then Polish
14:29 <Monkey_arma> and with capital P
14:29 <Monkey_arma> polish with lowercase p is not same word
14:29 <P4> wow... i never used national adjectives when talling about people
14:29 <P4> German is a noun not adjctive when talking about ppl
14:29 <Monkey_arma> in english we do
14:29 <Monkey_arma> it is bot
14:30 <Monkey_arma> both
14:30 <Monkey_arma> zion is German
14:30 <Monkey_arma> zion is a German
14:30 <P4> zion?
14:30 <Monkey_arma> normally we say the first
14:30 <Monkey_arma> just an example
14:30 <P4> cant find zion in 2. a Slavic language, the principal language of Poland. Abbreviation: Pol
14:30 <P4> 02Aug07 143751 <Monkey_arma> [Origin: 1695?1705; Pole + -ish1]
14:31 <P4> grrr
14:31 <P4> wrong paste
14:31 <P4> http://pewebdic2.cw.idm.fr/ <=- here
14:31 <P4> Zion: a name given to Israel or to a promised land where the Jewish people could live in peace, after many centuries of not having a land of their own
14:31 <P4> Zion: in the Old Testament of the Bible, another name for Jerusalem
14:31 <Monkey_arma> in fact in the English language we dont say "P4 is a Pole" very often
14:31 <Monkey_arma> we normally say P4 is Polish
14:32 <P4> ok... use it as you want :) i preffer a Pole
14:32 <P4> back to the cafe
14:32 <Monkey_arma> P4, what kind of crazy link was that? :)
14:32 <P4> #tea
14:32 <armabot> P4: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): ${ßFL}$ Kriki, flub, Monkey, NErD, Szopin, TH|HeHe
14:32 <P4> http://pewebdic2.cw.idm.fr/ <=- it's the most reliable dictionary for me :)
14:33 <Monkey_arma> i will write what it says
14:33 <Monkey_arma> hoof1 [See pronunciation table in "How to use dictionary" pages] plural hoofs or hooves [See pronunciation table in "How to use dictionary" pages] [countable]
14:33 <Monkey_arma> 1HBA the hard foot of an animal such as a horse, cow etc
14:33 <Monkey_arma> 2 on the hoof British English if you do something on the hoof, you do it quickly while doing something else at the same time
14:33 <Monkey_arma> you give me a link to hoof?
14:33 <P4> it's an example queary, LOL!
14:33 <P4> query*
14:34 <Monkey_arma> well you were supposed to give me link to meaning of Polish
14:34 <Monkey_arma> that is a rubbish dictionary btw
14:34 <Monkey_arma> ok cafe
14:34 <P4> cya there :}
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15:36 <MrBougo> hoi hoi
15:38 <tramshed> !
15:38 <MrBougo> lolz
15:39 * tramshed borked his kernel
15:40 <MrBougo> oh
15:40 <MrBougo> i read
15:40 <MrBougo> "tramshed is bored like his kernel"
15:40 <tramshed> hah
15:42 <MrBougo> im bored
15:42 <MrBougo> like tramshed's kenrel
15:42 <MrBougo> kernal
15:42 <MrBougo> kernel
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16:21 <DrJoeTron> hmm
16:21 <DrJoeTron> why is photoshop not saving files with the extensions at the end
16:23 <luke-jr|work> cuz it sucks
16:23 <Lucifer_arma> don't forget about Polock
16:24 <MrBougo> cuz it does lensflares
16:25 <Lucifer_arma> why did the new polish navy build glass-bottom boats?
16:39 <DrJoeTron> oh well
16:39 <DrJoeTron> LENS FLARES
16:39 <DrJoeTron> WHOOSH
16:39 <DrJoeTron> i just made power point templates for a friend
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16:59 <Bougo> oops
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17:00 <MrBougo> i blame my microsoft keyboard
17:01 <epsy> haha pwnt
17:01 <epsy> you're still a wiondwos user, MrBougo ?
17:02 <MrBougo> yup
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17:43 <epsy> hay hoop_tron
17:43 <hoop_tron> epsy: hahiahi
17:46 <epsy> hoop_tron, welcome abroad :D
17:46 <hoop_tron> :)
17:54 <MrBougo> #quote get 49
17:54 <armabot> MrBougo: Quote #49: "<ToddBot> #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo" (added by epsy at 03:52 PM, July 09, 2007)
17:54 <MrBougo> aw
17:54 <MrBougo> #quote get 48
17:54 <armabot> MrBougo: Quote #48: "i'm a woindwos user --MrBougo" (added by Lucifer_arma at 09:12 AM, June 24, 2007)
17:54 <MrBougo> :)
17:55 <epsy> MrBougo, oui je faisais réference à ça
17:55 <MrBougo> je sais bien :)
17:55 <MrBougo> byebyebye
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17:55 <MrBoto> gotta register this one
17:55 <epsy> you didn't ? O_o
17:56 <MrBoto> nope :)))
17:56 <epsy> -NickServ- Nickname: MrBoto << ONLINE >>
17:56 <epsy> -NickServ- Registered: 19 seconds ago
17:56 <epsy> -NickServ- Nickname Options: Secure, AllowMemos, MemoNotify, MemoSignon
17:56 <epsy> ;P
17:58 <Lucifer_arma> SO THEY COULD SEE THE OLD POLISH NAVY!!
17:58 <MrBoto> yup
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18:01 -!- MrBoto is now known as MrBougo
18:01 <Lucifer_arma> Domo arigato, MrBoto
18:01 <MrBougo> ?
18:01 <MrBougo> ok
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18:06 <MrBougo> &config supybot.plugins.Services.NickServ NickServ
18:06 <MrBoto> MrBougo: Error: 'supybot.plugins.Services.NickServ' is not a valid configuration variable.
18:06 <MrBougo> whatever
18:06 <MrBougo> &search nickserv
18:06 <MrBoto> MrBougo: There were no matching configuration variables.
18:06 <MrBougo> pff
18:07 <MrBougo> that was stupid
18:07 <MrBougo> &load Services
18:07 <MrBoto> MrBougo: The operation succeeded.
18:07 <MrBougo> &config supybot.plugins.Services.NickServ NickServ
18:07 <MrBoto> MrBougo: The operation succeeded.
18:10 <MrBougo> #list
18:10 <armabot> MrBougo: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Insult, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
18:10 <MrBougo> &list
18:10 <MrBoto> MrBougo: Admin, Alias, Channel, Config, Herald, Misc, Network, Owner, Relay, User, and Utilities
18:11 <epsy> ...
18:11 <MrBougo> N
18:11 <MrBougo> ?
18:12 <MrBougo> #list channellogger
18:12 <armabot> MrBougo: That plugin exists, but has no commands. This probably means that it has some configuration variables that can be changed in order to modify its behavior. Try "config list supybot.plugins.ChannelLogger" to see what configuration variables it has.
18:12 <MrBougo> weee
18:12 <MrBougo> :3
18:14 <MrBougo> bye
18:14 <MrBougo> &quit "Testey?"
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18:14 <MrBougo> ooooooooh :3
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18:29 <GodTodd> well....it's official....amazon *does* have everything.... https://fresh.amazon.com/Welcome?
18:32 <epsy> ?
18:43 <GodTodd> !
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19:12 <Lucifer_arma> A new online grocery service founded by Amazon, serving customers in the Seattle area.
19:13 <Lucifer_arma> looks like another great way for Seattlites to get fatter
19:14 <GodTodd> don't worry...the whole country will...they're planning on major expansion
19:14 <GodTodd> heh
19:31 <Lucifer_arma> I hung my garage door again, today
19:31 <Lucifer_arma> this time I had to cut the door and the jamb for the hinges
19:31 <Lucifer_arma> it's not perfect, but I don't think I did too badly for a first time (never done this particular thing before)
19:32 <GodTodd> that's how i learn stuff...i just damn well do it...then the next time i know how to do it better and easier :)
19:34 <Lucifer_arma> isn't that what rental houses are for? ;)
19:35 <Lucifer_arma> ok, now I just have to do the brackets, but I have to finish my weed whacker today if I can
19:35 <GodTodd> hell...i do it on a house we own :)
19:36 <Lucifer_arma> well, I would too, but the thing I like doing it on a rental house is that I have to get away as cheaply as possible, which means learning right away which corners can actually be cut
19:36 <Lucifer_arma> for instance, I learned today that you really need a good chisel :)
19:36 <Lucifer_arma> I could have done better without one, but it probably would have been near perfect with one
19:36 <Lucifer_arma> it's a door and jamb that needs to be replaced anyway, we just don't have the $150 for a new hung door right now
19:37 <GodTodd> i'm a skinflint...so even though there's not usually a "spending limit" on repairs/upgrades i still try to do it on the cheap
19:37 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, of course, but there's "on the cheap, but I don't want to have to fix it again in 20 years", and then there's "on the cheap, and it only has to last until we move out"
19:37 <GodTodd> true :)
19:38 <GodTodd> oh...i got the forester fixed
19:38 <GodTodd> :)
19:38 <Lucifer_arma> just needed the belt?
19:38 <GodTodd> yep
19:38 <GodTodd> running fine now
19:38 <Lucifer_arma> that's good. :) Means you didn't overheat it in the process
19:38 <GodTodd> yeah
19:38 <GodTodd> i was worried about the PS pump and alternator
19:38 <Lucifer_arma> I forget where subaru puts their water pumps. They definitely used to be belt-driven, it was in my 89 Subaru
19:38 <GodTodd> never know what'll fuck them up :)
19:39 <GodTodd> battery was drained pretty good tho
19:39 <Lucifer_arma> did you put the belt on or have someone else do it? ;)
19:39 <GodTodd> borrowed my father in law's engine starter and took no time at all to get going again
19:39 <GodTodd> i put it in
19:39 <GodTodd> belt was $10
19:40 <Lucifer_arma> can you believe you pay $60 to have someone else do that? ;)
19:40 <GodTodd> i know
19:40 <Lucifer_arma> I used to get people bitching about that. "The belt's $10, and it only took you 30 seconds!"
19:40 <GodTodd> all i had to do was loosen the alternator, push it down, put the belt on, tighten everything up and it was good
19:40 <Lucifer_arma> "Yeah, it took *me* 30 seconds, but how long would it take you? I've changed hundreds...." ;)
19:41 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, it's usually pretty easy, you just need some mechanical inclination
19:41 <GodTodd> well...there were plastic covers i had to remove first :)
19:41 <Lucifer_arma> and not be one of those idiots who thinks Home Improvement is a realistic depiction of home mechanic work
19:41 <GodTodd> haha
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21:16 <Lucifer_arma> well, I've got no power to my outside electrical outlet now, but no breaker appears to be blown
21:17 <MrBougo> :(
21:17 <Lucifer_arma> fine, I give up, apparently I'm not ready to make a power supply for my weed whacker
21:21 <MrBougo> aw
21:28 <MrBougo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Redirects_from_misspellings
21:28 <spidey> grrr
21:29 <spidey> as if it's bad enoug hyou have to hunt down tremulous patches, you have to hunt for the source to >.>
21:30 <MrBougo> lol
21:30 <MrBougo> that's easey
21:30 <MrBougo> just select "source" during the install
21:30 <spidey> no
21:30 <spidey> they have a svn somewhere
21:31 <MrBougo> aw right
21:31 <spidey> i need a certain revision for these patches :p
21:33 <MrBougo> aw
21:36 <spidey> svn co -r 910 svn://svn.icculus.org/tremulous/trunk tremulous-910-lakitu7
21:36 <spidey> :D
21:37 <MrBougo> bye
21:37 <spidey> cya
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21:57 <Lucifer_arma> yep, weather warnings have started up again
21:59 <GodTodd> nothing here
21:59 <GodTodd> yet :)
21:59 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.weather.com/weather/newscenter/alerts?alertId=98934&cm_ven=1CW&cm_cat=FFv1.1.4&cm_pla=wx.com-bar&cm_ite=wx-severe-wx-alert&par=1CWFFv1.1.4&site=wx.com-bar
22:00 <Lucifer_arma> they're focused on a different area than where I'm at
22:00 <Lucifer_arma> but I see a stormfront just a few miles away :/
22:00 <GodTodd> heh
22:04 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-mbridge0207aug02,0,3671936.story?coll=orl_news_local_lake_promo
22:04 <Lucifer_arma> yep, the White House attacks!
22:04 <Lucifer_arma> they took so much shit over Katrina that now when something happens, they attack first and apologize never
22:05 <Lucifer_arma> "It's not our fault a bridge in Minnesota collapsed, our people inspected it and said it was in sucky shape!"
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22:46 <spidey> hrm
22:46 <spidey> i've never used crontab before, so if i want to run something every 10 minutes
22:46 <spidey> would this bne the right way?
22:46 <spidey> */10 * * * * admin /var/www/tremstats/fa/input/tremstats.py
22:47 <morsik> .echo bot
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23:27 <spidey> Lucifer_arma,
23:27 <spidey> ping
23:28 <spidey> nvm got it
23:28 <spidey> they need to list freakin dependencies in there readme >.>
23:30 <spidey> ok actually, what's the package for PIL called, heh
23:39 <luke-jr|work> hum
23:39 <spidey> python-imaging
23:39 <luke-jr|work> I think we're about to drop to 0 distfiles mirrors fyi
23:39 <spidey> huh?
23:45 * digitx is away (bye)
23:50 <luke-jr|work> spidey: http://beta.armagetronad.net/ 's downloads are likely dead
23:51 <spidey> =/
23:52 <spidey> i would mirror, but we're close to our max bandwidth
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00:04 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.org/tremstats/fa/index.php
00:04 <spidey> :D
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00:23 <P4> spidey: you lost in pings :)
00:23 <spidey> ?
00:23 <P4> #last --from spidey --with tremstat
00:23 <armabot> P4: [00:07:48] <spidey> http://fallin-angels.org/tremstats/fa/index.php
00:25 <P4> WhoAmI got 4pts and 3 times more lag than you (3x4=12pts? :PP)
00:25 <P4> jk :P
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00:41 <spidey> lol
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02:01 <spidey> rodney atkins - these are my peoples :D
02:06 <Lucifer_arma> well, the two geologists that share this room with me are inclined to think the supports for the bridge were undermined by the water
02:06 <Lucifer_arma> http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=44.981667,-93.258611&spn=0.01,0.01&q=44.981667,-93.258611
02:06 <Lucifer_arma> if you go a little downstream from the flag, you'll see where the bridge is on the map
02:06 <Lucifer_arma> the flag is Saint Anthony Falls (check wikipedia for its story)
02:10 <DrJoeTron> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHK0uFb6Vzw
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02:21 <|zion|> hossa
02:21 <|zion|> someone here?
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02:39 <Lucifer_arma> yes
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05:37 <GodTodd> oh no, it's Lucifer_arma!
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> hi
05:41 <GodTodd> yo
05:42 <spidey> wow
05:43 <spidey> someone posted a 25gb dvd rip
05:43 <spidey> of rapidshare links
05:43 <spidey> rapidshare only allows each link to be 100mb
05:43 <spidey> 282 links for 1 dvd hd movie
05:43 <spidey> :o
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06:22 <ddwagnz> hi
06:23 <ddwagnz> hay ummmm the source code for Armagetron Advance on svn is no longer updating??!!??
06:24 <ddwagnz> like the svn no longer exisit??!!??
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06:36 <ddwagnz> anyone here??!??
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06:54 <Lucifer_arma> hellooooooooo!!!!!!!
06:54 <Lucifer_arma> anybody home?
06:54 <Lucifer_arma> Guess not, good-byyeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!
06:54 * Lucifer_arma has left this channel ("I'm a loser baby, so why don't you kill me?").
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> so me and the geologists at work have figured out why the bridge collapsed
07:10 <GodTodd> terrorists working for the construction crew working on it?
07:10 <GodTodd> :)
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> nah :)
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> check out Saint Anthony Falls on wikipedia
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> the bridge that fell is downstream of the falls just a hair
07:21 <GodTodd> sonic waves?
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> from watching the video, it looks like one side of the bridge lost it's footing first and brought it all down in sequence
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> so obviously it was a phaser blast from an orbiting starship
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> there's some jokers on youtube already saying it's a conspiracy
07:22 <GodTodd> i'm sure
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> looking at an mpeg video and saying "These struts aren't lined up! Somebody took out the bolts!"
07:22 * Lucifer_arma wonders if that smeghead is aware they frequently use rivets for jobs this big, or really hot welding
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> because bolts will loosen over time...
07:23 <GodTodd> yeah
07:23 <GodTodd> bolts are weak compared to welds and rivets too
07:23 <Lucifer_arma> the obvious reason the struts don't line up in the mpeg is because of artifacts in the compression :)
07:23 <Lucifer_arma> ? Not necessarily, the problem is that in a bridge, the metal will heat up during the day and cool at night, which would cause the nut to loosen
07:24 <Tramshed__> I woulda thought the problem was that it fell down
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> but in general, bolts the size they'd need are a lot harder to fasten securely than rivets and welds :)
07:24 <GodTodd> yep
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> Tramshed__: that's the result of the problem, not the problem itself :)
07:25 * GodTodd got the email earlier that his half-brother, sister in law and half-sister are all accounted for
07:25 <Lucifer_arma> don't worry, the youtube kid is one of the guys that watched Die Hard a million times and somehow think that's evidence the WTC attacks were a conspiracy
07:25 <Lucifer_arma> that's good. They're up there?
07:25 <GodTodd> not the ones you know :)
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> these will be on your dad's side, then?
07:26 <GodTodd> yeh
07:26 <GodTodd> they live in minneapolis
07:27 <GodTodd> apparently the house my brother and his wife just bought was damn near the bridge too
07:27 <GodTodd> heh
07:30 <GodTodd> http://archives.math.utk.edu/visual.calculus/
07:30 <GodTodd> man...wish i'd had that link a while ago :/
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07:47 <Lucifer_arma> man, I'm so out of reading material I'm considering reading a book my mother-in-law left here
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> I guess I could finally get this laptop brought up to speed with kubuntu
07:47 <GodTodd> what book is it?
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> some Andre Norton book
07:47 <GodTodd> hrmm
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> I got a few of her books off the baen free library and thought they were crap, so I'm not in a hurry to read anything else by her
07:49 <GodTodd> i personally haven't read any :)
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I'm going to backup the important data on this computer so I'll be able to install kubuntu tomorrow or so
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> well, the problem with her books is that she's a horrible writer. The stories themselves aren't that bad, in fact one story was very interesting, but her writing stinks so badly you don't want to read
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> you just want to take the idea and run with it on your own just to avoid reading her writing
07:51 <GodTodd> so kind of like reading one of mine :)
07:51 <GodTodd> heh
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> ok, going to take a dump while this scp runs
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08:04 <Lucifer_arma> well, I made it 3 pages
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08:19 <GodTodd> before giving up? :)
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> yep
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> I think I'm getting pickier as I get older
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> I'm actually annoyed by names that are obviously fake
08:25 <GodTodd> as am i
08:26 <Lucifer_arma> no attempt to do anything other than sound odd/foreign
08:26 <Lucifer_arma> I read March Upcountry, and wound up reading the whole series, and Dave Weber is damn good about names and stuff
08:26 <Lucifer_arma> the distinct cultures as they pass through them are, er, distinct
08:27 <GodTodd> thing is...most writers don't see the connection between the name and the character
08:27 <Lucifer_arma> different languages, not just one language for the whole planet
08:27 <GodTodd> your characters are supposed to be believable and an obviously fake name makes an obviously fake character
08:27 <Lucifer_arma> completely
08:27 <Lucifer_arma> the name is a primary point of interaction between the character and the reader
08:27 <GodTodd> yep
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> it sounds so superficial, but man, I get turned off quick when I see names like "Tikil"
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> also, 20th century names being misspelled annoys me
08:28 <GodTodd> heh
08:28 <GodTodd> shows no research :)
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> I don't mind within a certain amount of reason, but it always looks aribtrary
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> in every other way the language the characters use is identical to 20th century english, so why misspell the names?
08:29 <Lucifer_arma> I guess it's too much to ask that if they're going to try to advance part of the language, they should try to advance the whole thing reasonably
08:30 <Lucifer_arma> that's another thing Dave Weber pulls off nicely
08:30 <Lucifer_arma> the only character name he's come up with that sounded corny that I can remember was Dahak, and that was a computer anyway
08:31 <GodTodd> heh
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08:44 <spidey> spidey
09:00 <spidey> anyone familiar with c, and patches?
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09:17 <Lucifer_arma> I want to say that was the most inept cat I've ever seen
09:17 <Lucifer_arma> he comes over with some small animal in his jaw, and the little animal is wailing its nuts off
09:17 <Lucifer_arma> cat takes him over behind a bush, looking like he's going to kill it
09:17 <Lucifer_arma> the damn thing gets away!
09:18 <Lucifer_arma> so the cat catches him again, and then he escapes again!
09:18 <Lucifer_arma> it finally took a team effort to catch it, that cat and another cat
09:18 <Lucifer_arma> I'm still not sure what it actually was, because it might have been a kitten, in which case they may not have been trying to kill it
09:20 <Lucifer_arma> the noise it was making wasn't a mouse, but I don't know what a rat sounds like. It didn't sound like a bird, and it looked like it had a furry tail, so I'm starting to suspect it was a kitten
09:20 * Lucifer_arma wonders why they would catch a kitten, but they did look pretty embarrassed about it
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09:59 <MrBougo> hi there
10:25 <MrBougo> does any of you guys have a good upload bandwidth?
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10:25 <MrBougo> because i hve issues mirroring a file from one upload service to another
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10:26 <MrBougo> download is awright, but i can't upload...
10:33 <noob7> there was some kind of online mirroring service, it would upload ysour file from disk or web to multiple one-click hosters, but I just can`t remember the name or URL of it
10:51 <MrBougo> aww
10:54 <MrBougo> noob7, i guess it doesn't compress mp3's anyway
10:54 <MrBougo> :p
10:54 <MrBougo> gotta ask to someone
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10:55 <MrBougo> do you have a good upload bandwidth in germany?
11:11 <MrBougo> aww
11:11 <MrBougo> can someone help me?
11:11 <MrBougo> for free :p
11:15 <MrBougo> i think epsy will help me
11:16 <MrBougo> #m epsy je peux te demander un service? downloader un fichier, le compresser en 192kbps et le reuploader sur un serveur? on en reparle quand t'es online :p
11:16 <armabot> MrBougo: The operation succeeded.
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13:48 <MrBougo> hiho
13:49 <tramshed> har
13:50 <MrBougo> tramshed: do you have a good upload bandwidth?
13:50 <tramshed> maybe
13:50 <tramshed> I havnt tested it yet
13:50 <MrBougo> oh
13:50 <tramshed> I know I can do at least 50k/sec
13:50 <tramshed> why?
13:51 <MrBougo> i gotta mirror a file
13:51 <MrBougo> d/l it on a server, compress it, u/l it on another server
13:51 <MrBougo> and my connection is crap, i cant u/l it
13:52 <tramshed> both ftp?
13:52 <tramshed> you could just fxp it
13:52 <tramshed> or if you have shell access compress it first
13:56 <MrBougo> nope, not ftp
13:56 <MrBougo> one-click hosters
13:58 <tramshed> crappy
13:58 <tramshed> how bigs the file?
13:58 <MrBougo> 96 megs after compression to 192kbps
13:59 <tramshed> thats not that bad
13:59 <MrBougo> 161 megs before
13:59 <MrBougo> so 161megs to d/l and 96 to u/l
13:59 <tramshed> take you a couple hours at most
14:00 <MrBougo> ew
14:00 <tramshed> you could do that on dialup in about 8
14:00 <MrBougo> hehe
14:01 * tramshed is listening to... 02 - green jello - three little pi
14:01 <MrBougo> pi?
14:01 <MrBougo> 3.14159265358979?
14:02 <MrBougo> and then i dont know
14:02 <tramshed> 3.14159 26535 89793 23846 26433 83279 50288 41971 69399 37510
14:03 <MrBougo> 3.141592653589793238462633383279
14:03 <MrBougo> and stuff
14:03 <MrBougo> 3.14159 26535 89793 23846 26333 83279
14:03 <MrBougo> ew
14:03 <MrBougo> got one "4" wrong
14:04 <MrBougo> tramshed: you cheated, didnt you
14:08 <tramshed> 3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993751058209749445923078164062862089986280348253421170679821480865132823066470938446095505822317253594081284811174502841027019385211055596446229489549303819644288109756659334461284756482337867831652712019091456485669234603486104543266482133936072602491412737245870066063155881748815209209628292540917153643678925903600113305305488204665213841469519415116094330572703657595919530
14:08 <tramshed> 921861173819326117931051185480744623799627495673518857527248912279381830119491298336733624406566430860213949463952247371907021798609437027705392171762931767523846748184676694051320005681271452635608277857713427577896091736371787214684409012249534301465495853710507922796892589235420199561121290219608640344181598136297747713099605187072113499999983729780499510597317328160963185950244594553469083026425223082533446850352619
14:08 <tramshed> 311881710100031378387528865875332083814206171776691473035982534904287554687311595628638823537875937519577818577805321712268066130019278766111959092164201989
14:08 <tramshed> I did now
14:08 <MrBougo> aww
14:09 <MrBougo> you spammed
14:09 <tramshed> spamtastic.
14:09 <MrBougo> tramshed: can you upload it for me please? :)
14:09 <tramshed> ive got a torrent going
14:09 <tramshed> and I have no encoders on this system
14:10 <MrBougo> oh
14:10 <MrBougo> ok
14:10 <MrBougo> the encoder stuff is not a problem
14:10 <MrBougo> http upload is too buggy for my connection
14:10 <MrBougo> ftp would be awright
14:10 <MrBougo> so i can send it to you via ftp
14:10 <MrBougo> too bad there isnt any hoster that accepts ftp
14:11 <MrBougo> one-click host
14:11 <tramshed> the one I use does
14:11 <MrBougo> oh?
14:12 <tramshed> TB space and TB monthly transferlimits
14:12 <MrBougo> "files upload"?
14:12 <tramshed> plus ftp
14:12 <tramshed> no shell access though
14:12 <MrBougo> oh?
14:12 <MrBougo> nah, i'm talking about one-click hosters
14:12 <MrBougo> free stuff
14:12 <tramshed> oh
14:13 <MrBougo> found a one-click with ftp upload :)
14:13 <tramshed> what is it?
14:13 <tramshed> I can just put it on my site if you like
14:13 <tramshed> depending on what it is
14:15 <MrBougo> nah
14:15 <MrBougo> it's ok
14:15 <MrBougo> thank you :)
14:15 <tramshed> you sure? got plent of room, heh
14:15 <tramshed> barely got any albums on it as it is
14:17 <tramshed> fast site too, heh
14:17 <MrBougo> it's okay
14:17 <MrBougo> i need a one-click hoster for this
14:17 <tramshed> fair enough
14:18 <tramshed> hmm
14:18 <tramshed> ftp has web access too, thats kinda cool
14:19 <MrBougo> ?
14:19 <tramshed> http://www.cybercuntz.org/~cybercuntz/
14:20 <tramshed> things still pretty empty
14:20 <MrBougo> tahts your site?
14:20 <tramshed> need to fxp everything over
14:20 <tramshed> aye
14:21 <MrBougo> how much /month?
14:21 <tramshed> its missing a lot of stuff though
14:21 <tramshed> costwise?
14:21 <tramshed> beats me, my buddy paid for it
14:21 <tramshed> bought 5 years in advance
14:22 * tramshed is listening to... Delta 9 - Headstrong
14:23 <tramshed> no shell access which sucks
14:23 <tramshed> otherwise id have a couple of eggies onit
14:26 <MrBougo> aah
14:27 <MrBougo> the ftp doesnt work
14:27 <MrBougo> beh
14:27 <tramshed> hah
14:27 <MrBougo> can you host it? :p
14:27 <tramshed> aye
14:27 <MrBougo> thank yoo
14:27 <tramshed> where is it, Ill download it then toss it on the site
14:27 <MrBougo> i send it to you thru ftp?
14:27 <MrBougo> nah, gotta compress it
14:27 <tramshed> you need ftp access or can it just be an http link?
14:27 <MrBougo> http only :)
14:28 <tramshed> send me something to compress it with
14:28 <tramshed> ill dl/compress and ul
14:28 <tramshed> be quicker that way
14:28 <MrBougo> nah, i send it to you via ftp :)
14:28 <tramshed> unless you want to do it
14:28 <MrBougo> want to do what?
14:28 <tramshed> ok, one second
14:28 <MrBougo> can you set multiple ftp access acounts?
14:28 <MrBougo> so i can upload it directly to your server maybe
14:29 <tramshed> aye, gonna set you up an account right now
14:33 <tramshed> hmm, according to my network connections ive sent over 80 trillion packets
14:50 <noob13> thats alotta packets
14:51 <MrBougo> ew
14:51 <tramshed> indeed
14:51 <tramshed> seems unusual
14:51 <tramshed> but it might be right
14:51 <MrBougo> "might be right"
14:52 <MrBougo> sounds funny
14:52 <MrBougo> hehe
14:52 <MrBougo> ...
14:58 -!- P4 is now known as P4|away
14:59 <MrBougo> zomg this song is amazing
15:00 <MrBougo> Dash Berlin - Till The Sky Falls Down (Vocal Mix)
15:00 <MrBougo> totally fell in love with it
15:05 * MrBougo dances
15:17 <MrBougo> KDE4.0 beta1
15:23 <MrBougo> tramshed: 9.4 kbps =(
15:23 <tramshed> heh
15:23 <MrBougo> 11.6 =)
15:23 <MrBougo> 12.1!
15:23 <MrBougo> 13.8!
15:23 <MrBougo> wtf lol
15:24 <MrBougo> 14.6
15:24 <MrBougo> why did it drop
15:25 <MrBougo> 44%
15:26 <tramshed> beats me
15:26 <tramshed> you downloading something?
15:26 <MrBougo> nope
15:26 <tramshed> your dsl sucks?
15:26 <MrBougo> 0:53 elapsed, 1:05 left
15:26 <MrBougo> it does
15:26 <MrBougo> 8.3
15:26 <MrBougo> it's a belgian dsl
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15:35 <MrBougo> wb
15:35 <MrBougo> i reached 50%
15:36 <MrBougo> and less than one hour loeft
15:36 <MrBougo> left*
15:42 <MrBougo> http://xkcd.com/138/
15:42 <MrBougo> roffles
15:49 * P4 is listening to Ludvig Van Beethoven - Symphony No.5 in C minor (6:33) right now.
15:49 <P4> czesc
15:49 <P4> :)
15:49 * P4 is crazy about classical
15:49 <MrBougo> hehe
15:49 <MrBougo> so you like classical and hardcore too
15:51 <MrBougo> http://xkcd.com/149/ haha best comic ever
15:53 <P4> yes, i like it :)
15:54 * MrBougo is now playing: SnB - Absolute Red
15:54 <MrBougo> it's a remix of Albinoni's Adagio
15:54 <MrBougo> trance meets classical
15:54 <P4> hmm
15:54 <P4> can you share it @ boomp3.com?
15:54 <MrBougo> but it doesnt sound good imho :p
15:55 <MrBougo> not poomp3
15:55 <MrBougo> b*
15:55 <MrBougo> cant upload atm
15:55 <tramshed> ack
15:55 <tramshed> trance
15:55 <MrBougo> i need my bandwidth
15:55 <P4> i see :)
15:55 <tramshed> hardcore pwnage.
15:55 <MrBougo> tramshed: dont, worry, i'm noit hosting trance
15:55 <MrBougo> it's a progressive/electro/house liveset
15:55 * tramshed is listening to... Delta 9 - Trained to Hate and Destroy
15:55 <MrBougo> and the author posted it on his myspace
15:56 <tramshed> only techno I really care for is hardcore/speedcore
15:56 <tramshed> although I like some drum and bass
15:56 <P4> tramshed: check this out -=> http://boomp3.com/m/d676c1c6de37
15:56 <P4> hardcore/speedcore isn't techno, man
15:56 <P4> techno sucks a lot :P
15:56 <tramshed> haha
15:56 <P4> it comes from electro :)
15:56 <tramshed> I like DEP and Atari Teenage Riot as well
15:57 <tramshed> generally im a metal man though
15:57 <P4> i've started from ATR, now it too much chaotic for me ;)
15:57 <tramshed> hah
15:57 <tramshed> stay away from discordance axis then
15:57 <P4> http://www.di.fm/edmguide/edmguide.html <=- check this guide also ;)
15:57 <tramshed> I like the more chaotic stuff
15:57 <MrBougo> hehe Ishkar's guide something
15:57 <tramshed> Im originally a metal man
15:57 <P4> wow! :)
15:58 <tramshed> with some electronic tastes
15:58 <P4> i preffer terror more ;)
15:58 <tramshed> well, metal is being vague
15:58 <P4> vague?
15:58 <tramshed> grind/noise is being specific
15:58 <P4> what is vague? :P
15:58 <tramshed> with some death/black and others tossed in with the mix
15:58 <P4> tramshed: do you know NTSC? :)
15:59 <tramshed> whats the abbreviation stand for?
15:59 * P4 is listening to THE SPEED FREAK & BERZERKER - Fuck You! We Are NTSC (6:08) right now.
15:59 <P4> wait
15:59 <tramshed> hah
15:59 <P4> NTSC - The Nunawading Terrorizing Sacrificing
15:59 <tramshed> cant say I do
15:59 <P4> Cruzifiers
15:59 <P4> they mix slayer ;)
15:59 <tramshed> some of my favorite bands are Today Is The Day, Botch, Merzbow, Isis
15:59 <tramshed> hah
15:59 <P4> http://boomp3.com/m/ccd017b3a61a <=- tey this ;)
16:00 <P4> dunno any one of TITD, botch and merzbow
16:00 <P4> is it sth like Burzum?
16:00 <tramshed> titd is crazy shit
16:01 <tramshed> none of them are like burzum
16:01 <P4> that's a bit good ;)
16:01 <tramshed> isis is kind of like really hard tool
16:01 <tramshed> merzbow is noise
16:01 <tramshed> botch is good metalcore
16:01 <P4> is noise similiar to noisecore?
16:01 <tramshed> aye
16:01 <P4> got to check it out
16:01 <tramshed> merzbow is good shit
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16:08 <MrBougo> gotta love this guide
16:10 <P4> http://boomp3.com/m/a0b23f49afe1 <=- brand new NTSC ;) you could like it more i think if you like THE SPEED FREAK, BERZERKER & BAZOOKA, tramshed ;)
16:10 * P4 is gonne smoke some stuff now (AFK)
16:10 <tramshed> enjoy
16:10 <tramshed> im downloading the new isis
16:10 <MrBougo> 30 minutes left tramshed :p
16:10 <tramshed> almost done, heh
16:16 -!- P4 is now known as CT|P4
16:17 <MrBougo> http://xkcd.com/161/
16:17 <MrBougo> haaahaa
16:17 <MrBougo> 24 minutes leftr
16:17 <tramshed> so close, but so far
16:17 <CT|P4> whatta, i've been just kicked for talking too much at cafe
16:17 <CT|P4> i've said hello only ;P
16:18 <CT|P4> #tea
16:18 <MrBougo> huh
16:18 <armabot> CT|P4: Fortress Café: Players (8/32): -={ø_ø}=-, Monkey, Rapier, RED DEMON, redice, SlµQM, swift, Zakster
16:18 <CT|P4> after 2nd enter i've released i'm banned :|
16:18 <tramshed> hah
16:18 <MrBougo> Response: 350 Restarting at 0. Send STORE or RETRIEVE to initiate transfer
16:18 <MrBougo> Response: 421 No Transfer Timeout (900 seconds): closing control connection.
16:18 <MrBougo> Error: Disconnected from server
16:18 <MrBougo> ... the hell?
16:18 <MrBougo> it's still transfering
16:18 <MrBougo> ah ok
16:19 <tramshed> ?
16:19 <MrBougo> transferring but im not connected anymore
16:19 <MrBougo> aight
16:19 <tramshed> ah
16:19 <tramshed> using a direct port connection
16:19 <MrBougo> mebbe
16:19 <tramshed> you are
16:19 <MrBougo> okee
16:28 <MrBougo> muh
16:28 <MrBougo> "0:01:53" elapsed
16:28 <MrBougo> lol
16:30 * tramshed is listening to... Marilyn Manson - Deformography
16:35 <MrBougo> 8 minutes to go
16:35 <MrBougo> it feels so close
16:36 <tramshed> hah
16:37 <MrBougo> http://xkcd.com/226/
16:37 <MrBougo> haha
16:37 <MrBougo> 6 minutes ftw!
16:40 <MrBougo> 03:55 !
16:44 <MrBougo> one minute!
16:44 <MrBougo> tramshed!
16:44 <tramshed> ?
16:44 <MrBougo> 49 seconds remaining!
16:44 <tramshed> pimpin
16:44 <MrBougo> 30!
16:44 <tramshed> CRASH!
16:44 <MrBougo> 30 ! = 2,6525286 × 10^32
16:45 <MrBougo> 20!
16:45 <MrBougo> TEN :D
16:45 <MrBougo> FIVE SECONDS
16:45 <MrBougo> OHMY
16:45 <MrBougo> YAY!
16:45 <tramshed> lol
16:45 <MrBougo> Status: Upload successful
16:45 <MrBougo> :D
16:46 <tramshed> its there
16:46 <tramshed> I Just checked
16:46 <tramshed> http://cybercuntz.org/~mrbougo/
16:49 <MrBougo> yup :D
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16:54 <MrBougo> cyas
16:54 <MrBougo> tramshed: thank you very much :D
16:55 <tramshed> no problem
16:55 <MrBougo> i wont use many bandwidth
16:55 <tramshed> upload anything you want really, just know that others (me and my friends) will have access to it as well
16:55 <MrBougo> can you keep it on your server till i tell you?
16:55 <tramshed> heh, we got a TB a month
16:55 <MrBougo> oh
16:55 <MrBougo> okay :)
16:55 <tramshed> if it gets excessive ill let you know trust me
16:55 <tramshed> its got a tb of storage and a tb monthly bandwidth limit
16:56 <MrBougo> it wont, trust me too :p
16:56 <MrBougo> bye
16:56 <MrBougo> thank you again :)
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16:56 <tramshed> later on man
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16:58 <tramshed> kjh'
17:10 * tramshed is listening to... 01-isis-wrists of kings
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19:08 <epsy> hi
19:15 <epsy> #seen MrBougo
19:15 <armabot> epsy: MrBougo was last seen in #armagetron 2 hours, 19 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: <MrBougo> thank you again :)
19:16 <epsy> >:D
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19:55 <noob13> #seen noob7
19:55 <armabot> noob13: noob7 was last seen in #armagetron 9 hours, 22 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <noob7> there was some kind of online mirroring service, it would upload ysour file from disk or web to multiple one-click hosters, but I just can`t remember the name or URL of it
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20:08 <MrBougo> hiho
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20:35 * digitx is away (bye)
20:38 <MrBougo> hiho DrJoeTron
20:38 <MrBougo> a bit late
20:38 <DrJoeTron> its 1pm
20:38 <DrJoeTron> over here
20:38 <MrBougo> you joined 25 minutes ago
20:38 <MrBougo> i mean
20:38 <MrBougo> its 8pm here
20:40 <DrJoeTron> i think i horrible fucked up my video card rivers
20:44 <GodTodd> keyboard drivers too apparently :)
20:44 <DrJoeTron> nah
20:44 <GodTodd> finger drivers?
20:44 <DrJoeTron> i think you gotta fix that "lol i use an emote to end mai sentence" driver.
20:44 <DrJoeTron> :V
20:45 <GodTodd> nah...i put that driver in there special :)
20:45 <DrJoeTron> i tried getting TV out working
20:45 <DrJoeTron> and I sort of did
20:45 <DrJoeTron> it found a tv thats not there
20:46 <GodTodd> haha
20:46 <DrJoeTron> an HDTV too
20:52 <MrBougo> err tramshed what's the url?
20:52 <MrBougo> of your ftp :p
20:56 <MrBougo> #last --from tramshed --with http
20:56 <armabot> MrBougo: [16:50:06] <tramshed> http://cybercuntz.org/~mrbougo/
20:56 <MrBougo> thank yoo
20:57 <MrBougo> ah crap, forgot the password
20:57 <digitx> xDD
20:57 <MrBougo> tell me via PM :p
20:57 <MrBougo> that guy put such a complicated password
21:22 <Lucifer_arma> aww, it's going to take a year to find out why the bridge collapsed :(
21:23 <Lucifer_arma> anybody want to take bets? 2 bets needed, one on why the bridge collapsed, and one on whether or not we'll remember the bets when we find out
21:23 <epsy> #fetch http://resource.armagetronad.net/resource/
21:23 <armabot> epsy: '<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2 Final//EN">\n<html>\n <head>\n <title>Index of /resource</title>\n </head>\n <body>\n<h1>Index of /resource</h1>\n<pre><img src="/icons/blank.gif" alt="Icon "> <a href="?C=N;O=D">Name</a> <a href="?C=M;O=A">Last modified</a> <a href="?C=S;O=A">Size</a> <a href="?C=D;O=A">Description</a><hr><img src="/icons/back.gif" (5 more messages)
21:23 <epsy> bacj uo again ? :D
21:23 <epsy> *back
21:24 <Lucifer_arma> #feth http://www.davefancella.com
21:24 <Lucifer_arma> #fetch http://www.davefancella.com
21:24 <epsy> *back up againt
21:24 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: '<?xml version="1.0"\n?>\n<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">\n<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">\n<head>\n<title>Dave Fancella</title>\n<meta name="generator" content="http://txt2tags.sf.net" />\n<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="style/main.css" />\n<link rel="stylesheet" (5 more messages)
21:27 <MrBougo> #more Lucifer_arma
21:27 <armabot> MrBougo: type="text/css" href="/style/ie.css" />\n<style type="text/css"><!--@import url(/style/noie.css) screen;--></style>\n<script type="text/javascript" src="/scripts/menu.js"></script>\n</head>\n<body><div id="topbody">\n\n<div class="header" id="header">\n<h1>Dave Fancella</h1>\n<h3>Prepared to do seven impossible things before breakfast.</h3>\n</div>\n\n<div class="body" (4 more messages)
21:27 <MrBougo> weee
21:28 <MrBougo> #fetch http://www.google.be/images/firefox/fox1.gif
21:28 <armabot> MrBougo: 'GIF89ai\x00t\x00\xf7\x00\x00>Ss\x99\x14\x03\xbe\xae\x99SNN\xce\xa4k\xae\xa8\xcc\xfa\xb2\x00\x05\x18J1;X\xe9\xeb\xe8(Dw\xa6\x89ZZ8YT%)cA/\x87Z9\xc7\xc9\xc5.7T\xcfX\x11\x1b\x11y\xd5\xd2\xe35Cb\x89\xa3\xa3\x93\x8c\xba\xff\xff\xff\x98s;\xfc\xc67\x02\x04\'z\\W\xf2\xf4\xf1\xa2\x1c\x1a@QrtcK9Ji;Lm\xd8\x89:4@\\\xf6\xf6\xf9<Nnxs\xae8Hf:;N>Li8Fd:Kk<Pp\xba\x15\x0b\x01\x031\x7f\xbf\xdcX\x9e\xc1\xe2|\ (14 more messages)
21:28 <MrBougo> :D
21:28 <epsy> #fetch data:MrBougo spams
21:28 <armabot> epsy: Error: 'data:MrBougo' is not a valid url.
21:28 <epsy> O_o
21:28 <MrBougo> :(
21:30 <MrBougo> aw spam
21:30 <MrBougo> i spam 've spam got spam to spam go spam
21:30 <MrBougo> spam
21:32 <MrBougo> #fetch http://di.fm/mp3/trance.pls
21:32 <armabot> MrBougo: "[playlist]\r\nNumberOfEntries=7\r\nFile1=http://64.236.36.54:80/stream/1003\r\nTitle1=D I G I T A L L Y - I M P O R T E D - European Trance, Techno, Hi-NRG... we can't define it!\r\nLength1=-1\r\nFile2=http://64.236.99.41:80/stream/1003\r\nTitle2=D I G I T A L L Y - I M P O R T E D - European Trance, Techno, Hi-NRG... we can't define (3 more messages)
21:32 <MrBougo> ok i'm out
21:32 <MrBougo> bye
21:32 <MrBougo> #part
21:32 <armabot> MrBougo: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
21:32 <MrBougo> errr
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22:21 <Lucifer_arma> anybody here use drbd?
22:22 <Lucifer_arma> well, all the big iron filesystem sync tools are telling me to use unison for simple laptop/server syncs
22:30 <P4> what's drdb? is it a database?
22:31 <Lucifer_arma> distributed, replicated block device
22:31 <P4> oh... i'm hearing about it 1st time
22:31 <Lucifer_arma> it's basically what I want. :) It's a RAID system where one device is a local filesystem and the other is a network filesystem
22:31 <P4> wow... nice idea
22:32 <Lucifer_arma> the catch, of course, is that you can't choose subdirectories to use. Also, the reason I was asking, I want to know what happens when it can't reach the server, as happens a lot with a laptop
22:33 <Lucifer_arma> if I take my laptop to work, I don't want it to try mounting from the file server...
22:33 <Lucifer_arma> so what I want it to do is this:
22:34 <Lucifer_arma> just use the local filesystem and mark the writes somehow. Next time it comes into contact with the server, sync the server
22:34 <Lucifer_arma> then what? What if I have several clients hooked up to the same thing and they make conflicting changes? Arg.
22:34 <Lucifer_arma> so I guess I'll just go back to unison
22:35 <Lucifer_arma> got another question :)
22:36 <Lucifer_arma> does mtime on a directory say when anything in the directory was last modified?
22:36 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, ping
22:36 <Lucifer_arma> so, if I have a top-level directory, and then I have /path/to/a/subdirectory and I create a file in "subdirectory", will the top-level directory's mtime be updated to reflect the change?
22:36 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: prong
22:36 <spidey> you know anything about patches?
22:37 <Lucifer_arma> iron-on, or sew in?
22:37 <spidey> i'm having to manually apply a .patch because it's for a different revision, and they don't have one for the revision i use
22:37 <Lucifer_arma> that's a pain
22:37 <spidey> yea,i think i got it
22:37 <spidey> but before i add this big ass patch, i wanna know if i understand it right
22:37 <Lucifer_arma> why don't you patch the revision the path is for, then diff that against the revision you're working with?
22:37 <spidey> @@ -349,6 +349,7 @@ <--that means line number, rigt?
22:38 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmm, sorta
22:38 <spidey> and - / + means take out and add in?
22:38 <Lucifer_arma> better google this, I don't personally read patch files very well
22:38 <Lucifer_arma> I use graphical patch programs when I have to do this stuff manually
22:38 <spidey> k
22:38 <Lucifer_arma> but google with "diff" a lot, since diff is what is used to generate the patch files anyway, so you're more likely to find info with it than with patch
22:39 <spidey> kk
22:39 <spidey> and the reason is that this patch was made for a older revision
22:39 <spidey> and alot of stuff changed since hen
22:39 <spidey> then*
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22:40 <Lucifer_arma> maybe the patch won't even work on the newer revision then?
22:40 <spidey> it will, people have done it :p
22:40 <spidey> yo ujust have to manually edit it
22:41 <Lucifer_arma> you can sometimes get a patch file incrementally by applying it to each revision from the one it was generated for to the one you want, and rerunning diff
22:41 <spidey> hm
22:41 <Lucifer_arma> but if the file has a lot of revisions, that's a pain. It's usually easier to get the developer to hand patch and then generate a fresh diff
22:42 * digitx is away (bye)
22:42 <Lucifer_arma> it also depends a lot on the patch. :/ Some patch files contain something else to indicate context, like the 2 lines before and 2 lines after the changed part, so if those lines are moved, the right place for the hunk can still be found
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23:02 <Lucifer_arma> grrr, where does kmail store mail?
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23:06 * GodTodd uses evolution.
23:06 <Lucifer_arma> evolution sucks
23:07 <Lucifer_arma> :)
23:07 * Lucifer_arma wants a calendar app that works with google calendar transparently
23:08 <epsy> Lucifer_arma, maybe try...
23:08 <epsy> erm....what's it's name already....
23:08 * GodTodd has had no complaints with evolution :P.
23:08 <epsy> harr i can't remember it...
23:08 <epsy> ...yea! google calendar
23:18 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, this patch is like that
23:18 <spidey> but some of the hunks still fail
23:19 <Lucifer_arma> epsy: I know of a java program that acts as a bridge between a calendar app using ical and google calendar
23:19 <Lucifer_arma> but the google calendar I want to sync doesn't work because it doesn't have a private url
23:21 <epsy> like a gateway or a transport i see
23:22 <Lucifer_arma> grrrr, where does kmail keep its mail?
23:22 * Lucifer_arma needs to back it up so he can repartition
23:23 <spidey> i think i just found one of the most discusting things in this room
23:24 <spidey> i found a bottle that somehow rolled under the dresser, full of smokeless tobacco spit, and it had mold inside it xD
23:24 <spidey> good thing the top was sealed tight :S
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23:33 <Lucifer_arma> it annoys me to no end that sometimes I have to reboot my ubuntu desktop to fix it
23:35 <spidey> so why aren't you running windows? :P
23:36 <Lucifer_arma> indeed, the reason I'm having to reboot isn't a problem in windows :/
23:36 <Lucifer_arma> still, windows wouldn't give me the thin client in the living room
23:36 <Lucifer_arma> unless I paid a lot of money
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23:45 <epsy> #last --with samese
23:45 <epsy> #last --with simese
23:45 <armabot> epsy: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 50000 messages.
23:45 * epsy looks for mkzelda's message
23:45 <epsy> xD
23:45 <armabot> epsy: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 50000 messages.
23:48 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, who pays money? :p
23:48 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, i have 2 windows xp home, and 1 windows xp pro corp keys that are legit, i got them when i got my other box's
23:48 <spidey> you can have one of the home keys, i don't use 'em
23:48 <Lucifer_arma> no thanks :)
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23:57 <epsy> hay
23:58 <|Sticky|> hay
Log from 2007-08-04:
--- Day changed Sat Aug 04 2007
00:00 <epsy> ....and cu
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00:04 <spidey> rofl @ teaching my dad to download music
00:05 <digitx> hi spidi
00:05 <digitx> :)
00:06 <Lucifer_arma> fart
00:07 <spidey> hi
00:09 <|Sticky|> FUCKING M$
00:10 <|Sticky|> have the cheek to say upgradeing your mobo and cpu requires you to buy a new lisence
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00:27 <spidey> |Sticky|, fuck 'em :p
00:27 <spidey> it's still the same pc, and i don't see why you couldn't use your same key
00:27 <spidey> when you call to activate, just tell them you're formatting due to a virus, or something, and when they ask if you've installed it on another pc, say no
00:28 <spidey> or use winxp pro corp, it doesn't require a activation :D
00:28 <|Sticky|> yeah lat time i told the truth to the phone line and that came back with the response buy a new key
00:29 <|Sticky|> hmm wonder if i can get a copy of that
00:30 <spidey> i have a copy :D
00:30 <spidey> 2, actually
00:30 <|Sticky|> anoying thing is that xp appears to be more expencive than vista, wtf
00:30 <spidey> the origanol, and the backup cause i tend to scratch cd's
00:30 <|Sticky|> i dont want vista
00:30 <spidey> i recomend windows 2000 pro
00:31 <|Sticky|> 2000 was good
00:31 <spidey> i love it, it's like win98 without having to go 15bit :D
00:31 <spidey> 16*
00:31 <spidey> andi loved win98
00:31 <|Sticky|> you bizzare person
00:31 <spidey> i got it down to less than than 9k files
00:32 <spidey> running with 128mb ram and a 500mhz p3
00:32 <spidey> ran better than alot of pc's i've had
00:32 <spidey> then i let my uncle borrow it, and a power surge fried everything in his house :(
00:32 <|Sticky|> i would go wholely over to linux but...my games, my beautiful games
00:32 <spidey> |Sticky|, amen :p
00:32 <spidey> only reason i still use windows
00:32 <Lucifer_arma> "I'd gladly seek freedom, but not at the expense of my entertainment!"
00:33 <|Sticky|> exactly
00:33 <spidey> indeed
00:33 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, no such thing as 'freedom' anymore, anyways :p
00:33 <|Sticky|> im just trying to decide is the privalige of throwing away my consumer rights worth $300
00:34 <spidey> i'd never spend $300 on a os anyways :P
00:34 <spidey> if anything
00:34 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: maybe not in the US
00:34 <spidey> get a new box, for around that price, you'll get a os free if you pick the right package
00:34 <Lucifer_arma> |Sticky|: you can't put a pricetag on your rights
00:34 <DrJoeTron> torrents are pretty cool guys
00:34 <DrJoeTron> just thought i'd throw that one out there
00:35 <spidey> torrents
00:35 <spidey> or rapidshare
00:35 <|Sticky|> sugesting i torrent a cracked os?
00:35 <spidey> <3 rapidshare
00:35 <DrJoeTron> more like rapid shit
00:35 <spidey> DrJoeTron, you're just jealous
00:35 <DrJoeTron> jealous of its shit
00:35 <DrJoeTron> i guess
00:35 <Lucifer_arma> well, my master server is running again, but I'm not confident about it without the initscript working
00:35 <spidey> you can get anything from rapidshare
00:35 <DrJoeTron> shittily
00:35 <spidey> it's faster than torrents
00:35 <spidey> because it's not p2p
00:35 <Lucifer_arma> ST:TNG?
00:36 <|Sticky|> star trek??
00:36 <DrJoeTron> yeah with throttles
00:36 <spidey> i download from rapidshare at 800~kb/s
00:36 <spidey> +
00:36 <DrJoeTron> and kcaps
00:36 <DrJoeTron> caps**
00:36 <DrJoeTron> do you actually pay for rapidshit?
00:36 <spidey> i've NEVER hit 800kb/s on torrents
00:36 <spidey> it's worth it
00:37 <DrJoeTron> hahahaha
00:37 <DrJoeTron> oh you
00:37 <spidey> caps?
00:37 <spidey> 25gb a week
00:37 <spidey> how could you hit 25gb in a week
00:37 <spidey> even i don't hit that
00:37 <spidey> and i'm always downloading
00:37 <DrJoeTron> im talking free
00:37 <DrJoeTron> not pay
00:37 <spidey> your loss :p
00:37 <DrJoeTron> you're paying to steal
00:38 <spidey> so? :)
00:38 <spidey> my choice
00:38 <spidey> you have your own
00:38 <DrJoeTron> is it a monthly payment?
00:38 <spidey> paying to steal > just plain stealing
00:38 <spidey> $9/mo
00:38 <spidey> plus you get rapidshare points
00:38 <DrJoeTron> don't you have alot of money to pay back people? :V
00:38 <GodTodd> everyone has the right to choose to bend over and take it in the ass, joe :)
00:39 <spidey> DrJoeTron, not anymore
00:39 <spidey> i payed most of it back
00:39 <spidey> :p
00:39 <DrJoeTron> just as I have every right to make fun of them :)
00:39 <|Sticky|> MOST?
00:39 <spidey> payed luke back anyways
00:39 <spidey> |Sticky|, concider it a lone
00:39 <GodTodd> heh...he should always be last....he can't do nothin' to ya :)
00:40 <DrJoeTron> yeah i'd pay lizz back first before anyone
00:40 <spidey> i told her when i'd pay her back before she loaned it
00:40 <spidey> she agreed
00:40 <DrJoeTron> its not a matter of "lol hai i pay u back in 2 years k thx"
00:40 <spidey> um
00:41 <spidey> no
00:41 <spidey> 2 months
00:41 <DrJoeTron> its the fact that you put luke in front of anyone
00:41 <spidey> get ya shit strait :p
00:41 <DrJoeTron> thats a sin
00:41 <spidey> not really
00:41 <spidey> i owed luke first
00:41 <DrJoeTron> its still luke
00:41 <spidey> and i still owed it
00:41 <spidey> what's your point?
00:41 <GodTodd> yeah but luke will just shake his fist and say "pay me back you immoral sinner"
00:41 <spidey> actually he doesn't
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00:43 <spidey> and DrJoeTron , actually i'm not paying for rapidshare atm
00:43 <spidey> i haven't for 2 months
00:43 <spidey> i upload alot, and people download, meaning i get point = free acount for a month :p
00:43 <spidey> points*
00:45 <|Sticky|> i take it this involves alot of copywrited material
00:45 <spidey> possibly
00:46 <|Sticky|> hmm bizare that a company can survave essentialy tradeing in copywrited material
00:46 <|Sticky|> what country are they based
00:46 <spidey> germany and US
00:46 <spidey> but
00:46 <spidey> it's not like that :p
00:47 <DrJoeTron> yeah
00:47 <DrJoeTron> you gotta be bombarded with adware and fun stuff like that
00:47 <DrJoeTron> thats how they live :)
00:47 <spidey> ...
00:47 <spidey> not really
00:47 <DrJoeTron> well not when you're spidey
00:47 <spidey> ...
00:47 <|Sticky|> its more why dont they get shut down like all the other centralised p2p networks
00:48 <spidey> they can't
00:48 <|Sticky|> why?
00:48 <spidey> most of them aren't based in the US
00:48 <spidey> like the gnutella network
00:48 <|Sticky|> unless they are based in a country that dosent recognise c/w i dont think it will matter
00:49 <spidey> there's lots of places
00:49 <|Sticky|> if that is the case why didnt napster/audiogalaxy just move their servers
00:49 <spidey> the only way they can shut them down is if they do like they did to thepiratesbay.org
00:50 <spidey> |Sticky|, ares moved there servers
00:50 <spidey> i dunno, i guess they didn't want to :)
00:51 <|Sticky|> and what makes you think Germany wont shut it down?
00:51 <spidey> they haven't yet? rs has been up a long time
00:51 <spidey> and is very popular
00:52 <spidey> the thing saving them is they "attempt" to look like they're against it, by deleting 1 or 2 files every now and again
00:53 <|Sticky|> altho im not familiar with it, it sounds to me like it will eventualy get shutdown once it is high profile enough, it has happend to almost every other p2p network
00:53 <spidey> and i'm running out of clean tremulous sources trying to apply this patch >.>
00:53 <spidey> it's not a p2p network
00:53 <Lucifer_arma> look, the real question is, for those of us who haven't downloaded anything in awhile, where do we go?
00:53 <|Sticky|> Lucifer_arma: bit torrent
00:53 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: don't you know how to cp -R ?
00:53 <guru3> http://electricpotential.net/temp/resistanceisfutile.png
00:54 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, yes, but i wasn't expecting to ruin 3 copies
00:54 <spidey> heh
00:54 <Lucifer_arma> |Sticky|: bittorrent is a program and a protocol, you still have to find the torrents somewhere
00:54 <|Sticky|> mininova
00:54 <Lucifer_arma> didn't they get shut down?
00:54 <spidey> google ftw
00:54 * Lucifer_arma tried google
00:54 <spidey> do this
00:54 <|Sticky|> or use ktorrent that has the built in search
00:54 <spidey> search for "whatever" torrent
00:54 <spidey> like, a movie
00:54 <spidey> moviename torrent
00:54 <|Sticky|> or use ktorrent that has the built in search
00:54 <spidey> and it'll show sites that offer the torrent
00:55 <spidey> http://www.google.com/search?q=major+payne+torrent&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=com.google:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
00:55 <spidey> simple :p
00:56 <|Sticky|> http://www.mininova.org/ still going strong
00:56 <Lucifer_arma> man, I don't have 54.33GB to get the whole series
00:56 <spidey> of what?
00:57 <spidey> i managed to fit 9 seasons of xfiles in 30gb
00:57 <spidey> decent quality to
00:57 <|Sticky|> heh
00:57 <|Sticky|> of what?
00:57 <|Sticky|> Lucifer_arma: again use ktorrent and it will allow you to select which files inside the iso/archive that you want and ignores the rest
00:57 <spidey> sticky, and bittorrent client does that
00:58 <spidey> any*
00:58 <spidey> azuerze, utorrent
00:58 <DrJoeTron> |Sticky| demonoid is good to
00:58 <DrJoeTron> utorrent is windows only
00:58 <spidey> wine ftw
00:58 <Lucifer_arma> that's ds9
00:58 <|Sticky|> wine fts
00:58 <Lucifer_arma> I read the wikipedia article about it and thought I might like to see it after all
00:58 <Lucifer_arma> I'll wait until after I get kubuntu onto this box
00:59 <|Sticky|> ds9 rocks
01:00 <spidey> speaking of tv shows
01:01 <spidey> i'm only on season 2 of xfiles
01:01 <spidey> so i'ma go watch them ,bbl
01:07 * digitx is away (bye)
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02:11 <DrJoeTron> holy shiiit
02:11 <DrJoeTron> id software on steam
02:13 <spidey> ?
02:16 <DrJoeTron> http://www.steampowered.com/v/index.php?area=game&AppId=2340
02:16 <DrJoeTron> what a weird world we live in
02:18 <spidey> nice, i'm not sure if having tremulous devs registering on our forum is a good thing, or bad
02:18 <DrJoeTron> armagetron?
02:18 <spidey> tremulous
02:18 <spidey> why would i care if armagetron devs registered?
02:18 <spidey> they probably wouldn't anyways :p
02:19 <DrJoeTron> <spidey> tremulous devs registering on our forum
02:19 <spidey> tremulous != armagetron
02:19 <DrJoeTron> our forum = armagetron forums
02:19 <spidey> fa forums
02:19 <DrJoeTron> spideys forum = clam forum
02:20 <spidey> i don't visit aa forums, so why would i refer to them when i mention something like that?
02:20 <spidey> whem/then
02:20 <spidey> them)
02:20 <spidey> fuck it
02:28 * GodTodd fucks it.
02:29 <DrJoeTron> o hi
02:30 <DrJoeTron> nice nvidia drivers >:(
02:35 <spidey> heh
02:36 <spidey> i have a cruel idea
02:36 <GodTodd> hrmm...i should probably do some homework this weekend... :/
02:36 <spidey> got a bunch of assholes that like to play on your server? have a server you really hate? just redirect them all to the server you hate :p
02:36 <spidey> iptables ftw
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03:01 <spidey> the hideous luke-jr|work is here! O:
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03:26 <spidey> Open the .mkv file in VLC. Then druing playback press ctrl+i and check Advanced Information tab. Look for video codec. If it is AVC1 and the resolution of the video is big (like 1280x720p) you might not have enough CPU power on your computer
03:26 <spidey> so, a p4 2.4ghz isn't enough to play a 4gb mkv?!
03:42 <spidey> ok
03:42 <spidey> so appearently you need a super computer to play a 4gb mkv
03:42 <spidey> -.-
04:02 <tramshed> its probably more of a ram issue I would think
04:16 <spidey> 512mb
04:17 <spidey> it plays fine in windows media player classic
04:17 <spidey> though
04:17 <spidey> the audio/video syncing is way off
04:17 <spidey> and i couldn't get it to sync right
04:17 <spidey> so i just deleted it, downloading a divx copy now
04:21 <xfroggy> man vlc is laggy for me on linux
04:22 <spidey> PLAYS MOST THINGS FINE
04:22 <spidey> -caps
04:22 <spidey> but large files it doesn't like
04:22 <spidey> shoots the cpu usage upto 100%
04:23 <spidey> haha
04:23 <spidey> they say "pwn" in from dusk till dawn
04:33 <luke-jr|work> spidey: ...
04:33 <luke-jr|work> I work at home now, so... :p
04:40 <spidey> haha
04:41 <spidey> "all our lives, you've been a preacher, then one day...you're just gonna wake up and say fuck him?"..." i didn't say fuck him"
04:41 <spidey> xD
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09:06 <MrBougo> hihoo
09:41 <MrBougo> Tramshed__?
09:43 <Tramshed__> poot
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09:59 <MrBougo> tramshed! help meee!
09:59 <MrBougo> i forgot my fp password xDD
09:59 <tramshed> poot
09:59 <tramshed> hah
09:59 <MrBougo> ftp*
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11:06 <MrBougo> hiho philippeqc2
11:09 <philippeqc2> hello Mr B!
12:09 <spidey> 300 is a kickass movie :D
12:10 <spidey> hi philippeqc2 , long time no see :p
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14:17 <MrBougo> does anyone have itunes here?
14:39 <MrBougo> ok, problem solved
14:39 <MrBougo> MrBoto <3
14:39 <MrBoto> MrBoto <3 MrBougo too :3
14:39 <MrBougo> i'm so sad when i see the music charts
14:39 <MrBougo> only stuff i totally disagree with
14:40 <MrBougo> except with the audiojelly charts
14:46 <digitx> <3
14:46 <digitx> xD
14:46 <digitx> hi bugi
14:47 <digitx> comment va tu man?
14:49 <MrBougo> rofl!
14:49 <MrBougo> très bien, et toi?
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14:55 <MrBougo> hiho
14:55 <Monkey_arma> hiho
14:55 <MrBougo> hoi
14:55 <MrBougo> oho
14:56 <MrBougo> ohhi hhihihh hih o, i, hhh, h
14:57 <MrBougo> grah i LOVE this track!!!!
14:57 <MrBougo> Axwell - I Found You (Dubfire Remix)
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17:01 <noob7> is beta.armagetronad.net still down?
17:02 <noob7> erm wtf kind of site does is redirect now? luke-jrs wife`s ?
17:02 <tramshed> hah
17:04 <noob7> fucked up... I needs my res repo
17:05 <noob7> and that site is just crazy right wing weirdo stuff - sorry luke
17:06 <luke-jr|work> noob7: wtf?
17:06 <luke-jr|work> indeed, wtf
17:06 <luke-jr|work> and reload fixes it
17:07 * luke-jr|work blames squid
17:07 <noob7> yeah does fix it indeed
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17:11 <luke-jr|work> anyone else use squid?
17:12 <epsy> hi
17:12 <noob7> hay epsy
17:12 <Monkey_arma> hi
17:12 <kidanger> hi
17:12 <luke-jr|work> hi
17:12 <epsy> squid ? the sgbd ?
17:12 <epsy> *db
17:13 <luke-jr|work> the caching http proxy
17:13 <luke-jr|work> that is currently doing all my hosted sites
17:13 <epsy> ah
17:14 <hoop_tron> hayhay
17:14 <noob7> now I cant access catherine's site anymore :( I wanted to read why we shoulnd't cuss :(
17:14 <luke-jr|work> Corinne's*
17:14 <luke-jr|work> http://cora.dashjr.org
17:15 <noob7> sorry, and thanks
17:15 <luke-jr|work> squid is restarting at this moment tho
17:15 <epsy> is saw that :P
17:15 <epsy> *i
17:16 <luke-jr|work> hmm, config problem
17:16 <luke-jr|work> apparently the docs I am reading are too new
17:18 <digitx> luke-jr|work, bad
17:21 <tramshed> 1408 is pretty cool so far
17:23 <epsy> 1408 ??
17:23 <tramshed> the movie
17:23 <epsy> the year ?
17:23 <epsy> or what ? :D
17:23 <epsy> ah
17:23 <tramshed> its based off a short story by stephen king I read a few years ago
17:23 <tramshed> good stuff so far
17:26 <epsy> luke-jr|work, again ?
17:31 <noob7> redirects to your "(not so) cheap game server hosting" site now luke :p
17:32 <luke-jr|work> noob7: whatever that's supposed to mean
17:33 * luke-jr|work notes his prices are the lowest
17:33 <noob7> the beta subdomain
17:35 <luke-jr|work> there
17:35 <luke-jr|work> try it now
17:36 <noob7> works!
17:36 <noob7> some weird caching problems or random redirects? :p
17:36 <luke-jr|work> weird caching stuff
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17:37 <luke-jr|work> do me a favour and see if the uploading mechanism works
17:37 <luke-jr|work> z-man: hi
17:37 <noob7> epsy can you check the upload?
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17:38 <Lucifer_arma> ow
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17:39 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7319 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/add-resource/index.php: identify the user
17:39 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
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17:41 <luke-jr|work> http://beta.armagetronad.net/add-resource/
17:41 <luke-jr|work> if you can get a username other than your own, please tell me asap
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17:44 <luke-jr|work> hey, whoever made armagetronad-commits ML
17:44 <luke-jr|work> the whole non-members-are-moderated thing is stupid
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18:13 <Monkey_arma> how long has armagetron existed? including name changes etc...
18:19 <luke-jr|work> Monkey_arma: look at the oldest release...
18:21 <luke-jr|work> http://beta.armagetronad.net/?product=all&branch=Any&hideold=0
18:21 <luke-jr|work> 2000-01-29
18:26 <Monkey_arma> older than i thought
18:28 <hoop_tron> :O
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18:34 <epsy> hi Monkey_arma
18:39 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/epsy/fortress/too_little_sumo-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by epsy
18:39 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/epsy/fortress/too_little_sumo-0.0.2.aamap.xml: Resource by epsy
18:39 <epsy> seems to work
18:40 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/epsy/fortress/too_little_sumo-0.0.3.aamap.xml: Resource by epsy
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19:07 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr|work: you're stupid
19:07 <digitx> xD
19:07 <digitx> luke-jr|work, bad!!!
19:08 <digitx> </3
19:08 <digitx> xD
19:08 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr|work should try keeping track of a commits list that's open to spammers
19:08 <epsy> any better port of the javascript str.charAt() than substr ?
19:10 <epsy> nope ?
19:14 <epsy> foreach ($flipTable as $i) {
19:14 <epsy> $flipTable[$flipTable[$i]] = $i;
19:14 <epsy> }
19:14 <epsy> reading further in that... O_o
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19:32 <epsy> how we do insert specific chars in php ? i mean entering their nummer
19:33 <spidey> eh?
19:33 <epsy> like when you do ctrl + shift +2122 in a gtk app
19:34 <epsy> or when you do \u2235 in javascript
19:34 <spidey> heh
19:34 <spidey> like this
19:34 <spidey> well
19:34 <spidey> i can't do it in xchat
19:34 <epsy> lol
19:34 <epsy> in php not in gtk
19:34 <epsy> ^^
19:34 <epsy> the man says nothing about it :/
19:34 <spidey> 2122 doesn't do anything in pidgin =/
19:35 <spidey> but i'm guessing
19:35 <spidey> you'd just copy/paste it
19:35 <epsy> -.-
19:36 <spidey> give me
19:37 <spidey> a couple of random chars
19:41 <epsy> ah i found out...simply using their html code to display them
19:41 <epsy> xD
19:46 <spidey> http://www.bash.org/?28923
19:48 <epsy> didn't worked at all in fact...these aren't unicode -.-
19:48 <epsy> lol spidey
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20:01 <spidey> <Alwayz> linux is like the inlaw that shows up for christmas and no one knows why he's there, but he cooks amazing food
20:01 <spidey> <Cyriana> and molests your children
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20:18 <kidanger> .serverinfo epsy
20:19 <kidanger> #serverinfo epsy
20:19 <armabot> kidanger: epsy testserver: No online players.
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20:24 <MrBougo> hoi
20:26 <digitx> hoi
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20:34 <luke-jr|work> Lucifer_arma: you're stupid; what good is a commits list if most commits don't get on it?
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21:00 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr|work: you're stupid, because you haven't noticed me already telling people that I'm adding their email addresses (sourceforge ones most of us don't use) to the filter to let them through
21:00 <Lucifer_arma> just becuase it's your first and so far only commit since the list was created isn't my problem
21:09 <luke-jr|work> Lucifer_arma: I'm stupid because I don't notice you talking to other people and haven't done what you just said for my address?
21:10 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr|work: you're stupid because all you had to do was be quiet and the post would show up eventually, but you couldn't do that. Couldn't even ask a simple question without getting all judgemental.
21:10 <Lucifer_arma> Fucking idiot
21:10 * digitx is away (bye)
21:11 <Lucifer_arma> if you subscribed, you'd see that the post went through. and if you make another commit, you'll see that one go through as well.
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21:18 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: you should know that kids today don't wait for anything, it's done now or not at all ;)
21:18 <Lucifer_arma> funny you should say that right now, since I was just emailing a teacher to tell her about one of her students cheating during a test that I proctored
21:19 <Lucifer_arma> I omitted the name of the student, mostly because I don't know it, but also so the teacher could decide whether or not to act based on what facts I knew
21:19 <GodTodd> heh
21:19 <Lucifer_arma> she'll probably blow it off, because it wasn't outrageous, and probably wasn't a determining factor in her grade on the test anyway, and had more to do with trying to get away with shit than actually doing better on the test
21:20 <Lucifer_arma> (where both the teacher and the cheating student are female)
21:20 <Lucifer_arma> (yes, there are women that teach physics)
21:20 <GodTodd> not very many :)
21:21 <Lucifer_arma> well, for some reason, women in the lower physics classes outnumber men by a huge margin
21:21 <MrBougo> spider pig
21:21 <MrBougo> spider pig
21:21 * MrBougo dies
21:21 <Lucifer_arma> this particular class, which is for all intents and purposes a high school level class, has 1 man and 23 women
21:21 <Lucifer_arma> the general physics classes are about half and half, so I guess that's not a huge margin
21:21 <GodTodd> check the same number for university physics :)
21:21 <Lucifer_arma> but all of the women dropped my engineering physics class
21:22 <Lucifer_arma> (there were only 4 then, but the class finished with only 8 people in it anyway)
21:22 <GodTodd> wow
21:22 <Lucifer_arma> it was a night class, so it started with only 16 anyway
21:22 <Lucifer_arma> not like my calc 1 class that started with 36 and ended with 4
21:23 <Lucifer_arma> and two of those guys were in my physics class. :) Me and another guy
21:23 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, now that I've registered for classes, I'm anxious for the semester to start
21:23 <GodTodd> only one dropped in my calc 1 class
21:24 <Lucifer_arma> well, now that I've registered for classes *and* we know where the money's going to come from during the semester, I'm anxious for classes to start
21:24 <GodTodd> and one or two in my calc 2 class
21:24 <Lucifer_arma> do you have a late drop deadline?
21:24 <GodTodd> not sure
21:24 <Lucifer_arma> ours is usually a couple of weeks before finals
21:24 <GodTodd> i don't drop so i don't pay attention to it :)
21:24 <Lucifer_arma> and apparently its uncommon. It's more common that you can drop in the first week, but that's it.
21:24 <GodTodd> yeah...ours they give you a bit of time
21:25 <Lucifer_arma> the last drop day for the summer semester just passed, it was Tuesday
21:25 <Lucifer_arma> and finals start a week from Monday
21:25 <Lucifer_arma> except for this general physics 2 class, where the instructor intends to give the final on Thursday and let everybody out a week early
21:25 <GodTodd> my final is on thursday
21:26 <Lucifer_arma> then school starts on, er, lemme see
21:26 <GodTodd> then i have 2.5 weeks til fall starts
21:26 <GodTodd> ours starts 8/27
21:26 <Lucifer_arma> the 27
21:26 <Lucifer_arma> yep, same day
21:26 <Lucifer_arma> it's the first day of school for my kids, too
21:26 <GodTodd> same here
21:27 <GodTodd> well...one kid anyway :)
21:27 <Lucifer_arma> :)
21:27 <Lucifer_arma> first day I go to Statics, and then Martial Arts Weapons
21:28 <GodTodd> i have data structures that monday
21:28 <GodTodd> then physics and....humanities i think
21:28 <GodTodd> that's tuesday
21:28 <Lucifer_arma> no class for me on tuesday
21:28 <MrBougo> http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/61392465/
21:28 <Lucifer_arma> but I have to go work :)
21:28 <MrBougo> haha
21:28 <Lucifer_arma> and the instructor who's class I'll be working is my physics teacher from the spring
21:29 <GodTodd> then i have govt II on wednesdays
21:29 <GodTodd> and physics and phys lab on Rs
21:29 <Lucifer_arma> oh good, it's a general physics class, too, not conceptual physics
21:29 <Lucifer_arma> R being sunday?
21:30 <GodTodd> R being ThuRsday
21:30 <Lucifer_arma> ah. I'm off on R
21:30 <Lucifer_arma> well, I've got to work
21:30 <Lucifer_arma> work T/R, class M/W/F/S/U
21:30 <GodTodd> i'm off on F/S/U again :)
21:30 <Lucifer_arma> M/W is statics and marital arts weapons
21:30 <GodTodd> class on M/T/W/R
21:30 <Lucifer_arma> F is chemistry, for 6 friggin hours
21:31 <GodTodd> chem sucks
21:31 <Lucifer_arma> S is comp 2, and U is Speech
21:31 <GodTodd> i took my b and ran :)
21:31 <Lucifer_arma> then I've got US Gov. as distance learning
21:31 <GodTodd> as long as i do ok on the calc tests next week, i won't have to scramble to fit that in
21:32 <Lucifer_arma> heh
21:32 <Lucifer_arma> I had to do at least 15 credit hours this semester to get my AS in the spring
21:32 <Lucifer_arma> but I could only do 15 credit hours if I took intro to engineering, which got ruled out when my wife got a job
21:32 <Lucifer_arma> the non-intro to engineering semester has to be 16 credit hours
21:33 <Lucifer_arma> that's without PE. Since I'm insisting on a PE class now, that makes it 16 and 17 credit hours respectively
21:33 <Lucifer_arma> so I wound up with the 17 hour semester this time, because intro to engineering in the spring is at a better time for me
21:34 <Lucifer_arma> also, I'm not feeling too good about you and my brother both catching up to me
21:34 <GodTodd> what semester did you start?
21:34 <Lucifer_arma> not that I'm going to be all that competitive, but I did start a ways before either of y'all :)
21:34 <Lucifer_arma> ummm, let's see, I've done 2.5 years so far?
21:34 <GodTodd> oh....wow
21:34 <GodTodd> hmmm
21:34 <Lucifer_arma> I started in the spring semester right after we got back to austin
21:34 <GodTodd> i'm completing year one
21:34 <GodTodd> :)
21:35 <Lucifer_arma> well, apparently I've been spinning my tires the last semester, and didn't advance much the semester before
21:35 <Lucifer_arma> so I'm still classed in the first semester of my second year (also not counting the math courses before calc 1, since my degree doesn't start until calc 1)
21:36 <Lucifer_arma> but then to make matters slightly more complicated in that fashion, I've decided to pick up some extra courses so I can get an AS before transferring
21:36 <GodTodd> yeah...mine either....which is why i took the 10 week gamble
21:36 <Lucifer_arma> my brother's going straight for his BS
21:36 <GodTodd> i already have one AS so i'm just going to go straight to the BS
21:36 <Lucifer_arma> well, the 10 week gamble wasn't a choice for me. :/ I'd probably have taken it, too. ;)
21:37 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, so you'll probably still wind up catching up with me, might even graduate before me
21:37 <Lucifer_arma> depends on how much my wife can keep working so I can focus on school.
21:37 <GodTodd> i'm shooting for may of 10
21:37 <Lucifer_arma> my brother hasn't faced any seriously tough shit yet, so we'll see what happens
21:37 <GodTodd> er june...whenever the graduation is :)
21:37 <Lucifer_arma> I was aiming for may of 10 also, but we'll see
21:38 <GodTodd> yeah...i've got it as a flexible goal
21:38 <Lucifer_arma> after this spring, all of my kids will be in school during the day, and if my wife is still working for these people, then daycare won't be a problem
21:38 <Lucifer_arma> so with any luck, I'll be able to step up the pace next fall
21:38 <Lucifer_arma> but since that's also when I transfer, we'll just have to see
21:39 <Lucifer_arma> my kids will be old enough to declare them latch key kids (at least two of them, which should be fine), so it won't even be a hard and fast rule that my wife get home before 3
21:39 <luke-jr|work> baked ground beef doesn't work
21:39 <luke-jr|work> fyi
21:39 <GodTodd> yeah....come fall i'll be rid of one kid during the day but still have a 1.5 year old....though i have grandparents i can fall back on if i absolutely have to
21:39 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr|work: of course, idiot
21:40 <GodTodd> baked ground beef works wonderfully in a casserole....you just have to know how to cook beyond boiling water :)
21:40 <Lucifer_arma> actually, baked ground beef does work. It's called "meatloaf"
21:40 <GodTodd> that too :)
21:40 <GodTodd> or cheddar beef roll up
21:40 <luke-jr|work> by itself I mean
21:40 <GodTodd> i like that better
21:40 <Lucifer_arma> not that I ever make it, ground beef is nasty shit
21:41 <Lucifer_arma> there's a macaroni casserole my mom makes that's pretty good
21:41 <MrBougo> lol?
21:41 <GodTodd> the roll up is essentially a meat loaf stuffed with cheese and veggies
21:41 <Lucifer_arma> yep
21:41 <Lucifer_arma> wounds up looking like a cinnamon roll, only with no cinnamon, and no dough
21:41 <MrBougo> yummy
21:41 <MrBougo> veggies
21:42 <MrBougo> now i want to eat some
21:42 <MrBougo> mmh
21:42 <Lucifer_arma> you can do that with a skirt steak, too
21:42 <GodTodd> tho last night i made bbq ribs, fiesta potatoes and tortellini salad
21:42 <Lucifer_arma> or get a meat pounder and beat the shit out of luke's face--er, a piece of chicken (no difference, really), and roll that up
21:42 <MrBougo> cabbage with little pieces of bacon
21:42 <MrBougo> yummy
21:43 <GodTodd> cabbage makes me stinky fart
21:43 <GodTodd> i love it :)
21:43 <luke-jr|work> you guys know anything about electricity transport?
21:43 <Lucifer_arma> indeed
21:43 <MrBougo> stuffed cabbage
21:43 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr|work: everybody knows about electricity transport
21:43 <luke-jr|work> I know in a standard phone jack, there's 2 of 4 wires used for a single line
21:43 <MrBougo> i love cabbage
21:43 <Lucifer_arma> it's low voltage, though
21:43 <luke-jr|work> but can I use the other 2 wires plus one of the phone line's for stereo audio as well?
21:44 <Lucifer_arma> to transmit?
21:44 <luke-jr|work> put the audio positive on the 2 unused, and use the phone for termination
21:44 <Lucifer_arma> to transmit to someone else's phone, or just to use around your house?
21:45 <luke-jr|work> use around hte house
21:45 <luke-jr|work> I want the phone to be untouched by it
21:45 <Lucifer_arma> you can probably get away with it, with these problems:
21:45 <Lucifer_arma> every device plugged in is going to drain the signal, reduce the voltage of the signal essentially
21:45 <Lucifer_arma> so you'll need little preamps for every device
21:45 <Lucifer_arma> also, phone lines generally aren't well-shielded, so you'll get some noise in the lines
21:46 <Lucifer_arma> it's really better to just run new lines, and if you don't intend to use the phone lines that are there, you can actually use them and their outlets to feed a better cable
21:46 <Lucifer_arma> think about it like this: they're not good enough to use as ethernet cables, so they're probably going to cause horrible sound to come out
21:47 <Lucifer_arma> normally I say "fuck the cables, they're not that important", which really just means cheap audio cables are as good as the really expensive snake oil cables
21:47 <Lucifer_arma> but phone cables have no shielding and run near some high voltage stuff
21:47 <MrBougo> wireless!
21:47 <Lucifer_arma> indeed. It's not that hard to build a little wireless transmitter, and you can buy that stuff at Frye's
21:47 <Lucifer_arma> I mean, I've seen little transmitter/receiver pairs at Frye's that are designed to eliminate speaker wires
21:48 <GodTodd> they sell fm transmitters cheap :)
21:49 <luke-jr|work> hm
21:49 <luke-jr|work> or I could go 802.11 :)
21:49 <MrBougo> but wireless = batteries or stuff
21:49 <MrBougo> or more elctrical cables
21:49 <MrBougo> that sucks
21:49 <Lucifer_arma> I used to live in a house where someone had run audio cables
21:50 <Lucifer_arma> they only ran from my room to the living room, though, which shared a wall
21:50 <Lucifer_arma> so it was like "Oh, that's neat, but totally useless"
21:50 <MrBougo> lol
21:52 <Lucifer_arma> 802.11 is FM, isn't it?
21:52 <Lucifer_arma> yep
21:53 <luke-jr|work> MrBougo: or standard AC power
21:53 <MrBougo> yup
21:53 <luke-jr|work> 802.11 is WiFi...
21:53 <Lucifer_arma> FM = frequency modulation
21:54 <Lucifer_arma> don't you know anything? ;)
21:54 <luke-jr|work> WiFi != FM
21:54 <luke-jr|work> don't you?
21:54 <Lucifer_arma> you have a carrier signal, say 93.7 khz, which has a certain frequency
21:54 <Lucifer_arma> then you modulate that frequency within a certain range, and that modulation is your actual signal
21:54 <Lucifer_arma> FM is just a method for transmitting wireless signals, FM Radio uses that method and a certain range of frequencies
21:55 <Lucifer_arma> but wifi uses FM to transmit its signal, but in a frequency range that's well outside what FM radio uses
21:55 <Lucifer_arma> in AM, they modulate the amplitude (hence the name), and keep the frequency constant
21:55 <Lucifer_arma> but in FM, the amplitude is kept constant and the frequency varies
21:56 <luke-jr|work> ok
21:57 <Lucifer_arma> looks like they use something a little fancier, actually
21:57 <GodTodd> if wifi and fm had nothing to do with each other then no one would have ever had problems dropping network when their cordless phone rang
21:58 <luke-jr|work> GodTodd: supposedly, noone does
21:58 <Lucifer_arma> used to
21:58 <GodTodd> they don't now
21:58 <luke-jr|work> my dad said he had that problem
21:58 <Lucifer_arma> if your phone used the same frequency, you could kill your wireless in certain settings
21:58 <GodTodd> since phones left 900 MHz and went to 2 GHz
21:59 <Lucifer_arma> one being where the base unit was located in a line between the wireless device and its router
21:59 <Lucifer_arma> sometimes if you used your phone and walked it in a way that caused it to intercept that line it would cause a drop as well
21:59 <GodTodd> yep
22:00 <Lucifer_arma> I used to have a lot of problems with that, but now I don't for some reason, even though the router and the phone base are next to each other
22:00 <GodTodd> what's the freq on the phone?
22:00 <Lucifer_arma> I forget :)
22:00 <GodTodd> is it a 900 or 2K?
22:00 <Lucifer_arma> I think it's still the same as the wireless
22:00 <GodTodd> if it's 2K you shouldn't have to worry about it
22:00 <Lucifer_arma> it's higher, I think it's up at 5k
22:01 <Lucifer_arma> ? the 900mhz phones never interfered with wifi
22:01 <GodTodd> 2 GHz :P
22:01 <GodTodd> they did for my brother when he installed wireless at my mom's
22:01 <Lucifer_arma> I threw away the packaging, and I never notice the units anyway :)
22:01 <GodTodd> and it was standard tech training at earthlink that that could be an intermittent wireless network issue
22:02 <Lucifer_arma> hmm, I didn't have a problem until I got a phone whose frequency matched my wifi
22:02 <Lucifer_arma> and *that* problem I only had with the 802.11b card, I haven't had it at all with 802.11g
22:02 <MrBougo> bye
22:02 <luke-jr|work> MrBougo: !
22:02 <GodTodd> yeah...i think they did some imporvements on that for 802.11g
22:02 <Lucifer_arma> but when I still used a 900mhz phone, no problem. Just that we could hear our upstairs neighbor's conversations on it, so we had to update
22:02 <GodTodd> improvements*
22:03 <Lucifer_arma> only, why it was that in 2001 we had a chordless phone that picked up another chordless phone's signal is beyond me
22:03 <luke-jr|work> Lucifer_arma: keep the old phone for kicks?
22:03 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr|work: not if you respect other people's privacy, as well as respecting your own.
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22:04 <luke-jr|work> what kind of person would think a phone conversation is private?
22:05 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: you should know better than that....anything beginning with "respect" is an alien concept ;)
22:05 <Lucifer_arma> a reasonably person
22:05 <Lucifer_arma> *reasonable
22:05 <Lucifer_arma> in fact, the supreme court has ruled time and time again that phone conversations are considered private
22:05 <Lucifer_arma> and that a person using a phone has a reasonable expectancy of privacy
22:06 <Lucifer_arma> that's why wiretapping is illegal without due process
22:06 <luke-jr|work> I hope your life never depends on your phone calls being private
22:06 <luke-jr|work> yeah, sure, tell that to the Patriot Act
22:06 <Lucifer_arma> you can't talk to laws
22:06 <luke-jr|work> sure you can
22:06 <luke-jr|work> they just can't listen
22:06 <Lucifer_arma> and the patriot act steps on quite a few rights that are encoded within the bill of rights
22:07 <luke-jr|work> that's my point...
22:07 <Lucifer_arma> but that's normal fare in our country anyway. You can pretend the patriot act is something new and dangerous, but it's actually very common in times of war for the government to suspect a number of rights
22:07 <Lucifer_arma> try being German in the US in 1918, or Japanese in 1943
22:07 <Lucifer_arma> to say nothing of the shit that went down during the Civil War
22:07 <Lucifer_arma> the patriot act is lame by comparison
22:08 <luke-jr|work> there is no war
22:08 <luke-jr|work> just oppression
22:08 <Lucifer_arma> there's a difference?
22:08 <luke-jr|work> I'm pretty sure the other side has to fight back for a war
22:08 <Lucifer_arma> they aren't fighting back?
22:08 <luke-jr|work> if they are, news to me
22:09 <Lucifer_arma> no surprise, damn kid
22:09 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: of course not...we all know that *every* soldier that has died over there was shot by bush
22:09 <luke-jr|work> defense is not fighting back
22:09 <GodTodd> then wtf is defense?
22:09 <luke-jr|work> fighting back would be sending bombers over here
22:10 <Lucifer_arma> I'm so glad you weren't put in charge of american forces in 1776 :)
22:10 <GodTodd> fighting back is the definition of defense you idiot
22:11 * GodTodd wants luke-jr|work to defend his house and family with*out* fighting back
22:11 <luke-jr|work> fighting back would be going on offense
22:11 <GodTodd> how would you defend yourself against a burglar?
22:11 <luke-jr|work> shoot him
22:12 <Lucifer_arma> what was the hostage crisis in Beirut, then?
22:12 <GodTodd> that's fighting back, moron
22:12 <Lucifer_arma> or the one in Tehran?
22:12 <luke-jr|work> nope
22:12 <GodTodd> yep
22:12 <luke-jr|work> fighting back would be chasing him off into the street
22:12 <Lucifer_arma> the bombing of some US ship in africa...
22:12 <Lucifer_arma> then of course the 9/11 attacks
22:12 <Lucifer_arma> those were all offensive actions
22:12 <luke-jr|work> but 9/11 was Bush
22:13 <luke-jr|work> and nobody claims it was Iraq
22:13 <Lucifer_arma> no it wasn't
22:13 <GodTodd> ahhh should have known.... luke-jr|work is one of *those* idiots :)
22:13 <luke-jr|work> never heard of the other stuff
22:13 <Lucifer_arma> how can you say that 9/11 was bush and still say he's an idiot?
22:13 <luke-jr|work> there is sufficient evidence to determine that Bush was involved in at least covering up the real cause of 9/11
22:13 <Lucifer_arma> besides, you've played enough freeciv to know that the iraq invasion is a strategically viable move
22:14 <luke-jr|work> doesn't make it right
22:14 <luke-jr|work> you want to play freeciv?
22:14 <Lucifer_arma> I haven't said any of this stuff was right, just that it is what is
22:14 <GodTodd> oh...more fodder for our china/russia taking us down theory, Lucifer_arma
22:14 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: yep :)
22:14 <GodTodd> seen the latest recalls?
22:14 <Lucifer_arma> ? oh, I thought you were talking about luke.
22:14 <GodTodd> lead paint on toys and tread separation on tires
22:14 <Lucifer_arma> you mean the toy recalls?
22:15 <GodTodd> all stuff made in china
22:15 -!- hoop_tron [n=john@ip-182-241.sn1.eutelia.it] has quit ["Ex-Chat"]
22:15 <GodTodd> they're trying to kill us :)
22:15 <Lucifer_arma> doing who knows what kinds of economic damage to us :)
22:15 <GodTodd> yep
22:15 <luke-jr|work> you want to play freeciv?
22:15 <Lucifer_arma> yes, but I'm not going to
22:15 <GodTodd> so...once we attack iran, we're open for the russia/china gambit
22:16 <Lucifer_arma> I don't think there's even a candidate running right now that isn't going to ultimately attack Iran
22:16 <luke-jr|work> won't Iran nuke us?
22:16 <Lucifer_arma> see, that's the rub. Attacking Iraq was a good idea as long as it was only al-qaeda that was going to come and fight us
22:17 <GodTodd> yep
22:17 <Lucifer_arma> but since Iran's gotten involved, and bush and his administration wasn't competent enough to run the war properly anyway, we've got no chance to defeat al-qaeda in iraq
22:17 <luke-jr|work> we only did send all our nuclear research to Iran a few months ago...
22:17 <GodTodd> now it's going to be us against middle east/asia
22:17 <Lucifer_arma> and let's not forget that Russia's in bed with Iran
22:17 <GodTodd> that's part of asia
22:17 <GodTodd> :P
22:18 <Lucifer_arma> maybe they're not terribly close at the moment, but once the US sends bombers into Iran, Russia's gonna jump on their side and knock out the few territories near them that are causing problems
22:18 <Lucifer_arma> and feed the insurgency in Iran that's sure to rise
22:18 <GodTodd> we're pretty close to another world war, methinks
22:18 <GodTodd> britain and canada will, of course, back us to the gates of hell
22:19 <GodTodd> mexico doesn't much like us (rather, fox doesn't like bush)
22:19 <Lucifer_arma> fox is out of office
22:19 <GodTodd> europe could go either way possibly
22:19 <Lucifer_arma> I forget who got elected after him, but they had a big fight over who the winner was
22:19 <GodTodd> i thought so...but i haven't heard much about the new president
22:19 <Lucifer_arma> a fight worthy of Al Gore :)
22:20 <Lucifer_arma> still PRN, iirc
22:20 <GodTodd> africa will probably just fight themselves still and act as a land bridge for (for want of better terms) axis and allied powers
22:21 <GodTodd> we need the penguins on our side!
22:21 <GodTodd> :)
22:21 <Lucifer_arma> heh
22:21 <GodTodd> have we even sent an emissary to antarctica yet?
22:21 <Lucifer_arma> did you see the UN is going to send troops to Darfur?
22:21 <GodTodd> great
22:21 <GodTodd> more distractions
22:22 <Lucifer_arma> I don't think the penguins can swim far enough to help us
22:22 <GodTodd> russia should love that
22:22 <Lucifer_arma> Russia was in the unanimous vote, after all :)
22:22 <GodTodd> of course....the more the un is distracted, the less they'll notice/do anything about the retaking of territories :)
22:23 <Lucifer_arma> they've been ignoring the occupation of Chechnya for awhile now
22:23 <GodTodd> exactly
22:23 <Lucifer_arma> of course they're going to ignore that, since it's Russia doing the occupation, and they'll veto even talking about it
22:24 <Lucifer_arma> I think the best move to get al-qaeda, strategically, right now, is to hit pakistan
22:24 <Lucifer_arma> go to india and promise them kashmere, and then hit pakistan
22:25 <GodTodd> that might work....india is on the fence for the most part, aren't they?
22:25 <Lucifer_arma> ignore Iran and force al-qaeda and iran to meet us in Iraq nd Pakistan
22:25 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know if India supports our invasion, it's possible they're too close to the area to be iwlling to take a stand
22:26 <Lucifer_arma> but if we promise them we'll fuck over Pakistan just like we've done Iraq and that they'll be able to take kashmere, they'd support us, I'll bet
22:26 <Lucifer_arma> then we can use nukes and blame india for them :)
22:26 <GodTodd> haha
22:27 <Lucifer_arma> in the end, India gets kashmere, we get to occupy the key territories that al-qaeda uses, and we piss off india to the point where they won't let us outsource to them anymore
22:27 <Lucifer_arma> can't lose
22:27 <Lucifer_arma> man, I should run for president
22:27 <Lucifer_arma> er, I'm too young still, nvm
22:27 <GodTodd> wonder how long til we see a Parry running for president :/
22:28 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, what I think is going to happen is we'll attack Iran instead, pull out of Iraq, and just keep our military stretched to the breaking point in wars they can't win
22:28 <Lucifer_arma> David Parry?
22:28 <Lucifer_arma> oh wait, you meant our governor, didn't you?
22:28 <GodTodd> him or chris
22:28 <GodTodd> no
22:28 <GodTodd> that would suck too tho
22:28 <GodTodd> heh
22:28 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know, David Parry might do alright
22:28 <Lucifer_arma> he'd be better than Bush, at least
22:28 <GodTodd> too right wing for my taste
22:29 <GodTodd> at least he was then
22:29 <Lucifer_arma> of course, luke would probably be better than Bush
22:29 <Lucifer_arma> didn't he wind up turning away from church too?
22:29 <GodTodd> possibly
22:29 <Lucifer_arma> I seem to recall him asking me to quit talking shit about how he loved Jesus because he quit loving Jesus....
22:30 <GodTodd> heh if luke-jr|work was president i'd have to have a crash course in learning to say "oot" and "aboot" ;)
22:30 <Lucifer_arma> he was still a self-righteous know-it-all prick, those are prerequisites for being president anyway
22:30 <GodTodd> true
22:32 <Lucifer_arma> see, you were in the English class with me, Danny, Don, and Spot, right?
22:32 <GodTodd> i'm going to run for president when i grow up
22:32 <GodTodd> yeah
22:32 <Lucifer_arma> so the right-wing nutjobs sat on the right, and the left-wing nutjobs sat on the left, remember that?
22:32 <GodTodd> yep
22:32 <GodTodd> :)
22:33 <Lucifer_arma> David Parry sat in the middle because when he became a right-wing nutjob, he pissed all of us off, then he stopped being a right-wing nutjob and pissed all of them off
22:33 <Lucifer_arma> so while he took their side in most arguments, he was never on their side
22:33 <Lucifer_arma> and his own side was usually his own anyway, even if it seemed to agree with them
22:33 <GodTodd> yep
22:35 <Lucifer_arma> speaking of nutjobs, 'morning guru3
22:35 <guru3> good morning Lucifer_arma
22:36 <epsy> #last --with epsy
22:36 <armabot> epsy: [20:23:04] <kidanger> #serverinfo epsy
22:36 <epsy> ??
22:36 <Lucifer_arma> guru3: I got a PM from Psyko complaining that MC Hammer didn't want him to edit the wiki
22:37 <Lucifer_arma> I told him to click the link and he'll get an edit form, and he didn't reply, but I wanted to mention it to you in case you thought it might be worth adding something to tell people they can edit it still
22:38 <guru3> -_-
22:38 <guru3> i thought that was quite clever for anti-spam
22:39 -!- xfroggy_ is now known as xfroggy
22:39 <guru3> was also thinking about adding in other rotating lyrics
22:39 <epsy> omg LOL
22:39 <guru3> like 'burn baby burn' and then 'disco inferno!'
22:49 <Lucifer_arma> does it matter if the master server requires bash to run?
22:49 <guru3> beats me :>
22:50 <guru3> didn't belenus check on that
22:50 <guru3> with the openbsd stuff?
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22:51 <Ill00> hello all, does anybody have DUB's email?
22:52 <Lucifer_arma> I don't think he fooled with the master server, just the game server
22:52 <Lucifer_arma> and the masterserver starter script has quite a few bashisms apparently
22:53 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, my master server is back up for now
22:53 <guru3> cool
22:53 * luke-jr|work ponders whether to buy a UPS or extension cord
22:54 <Lucifer_arma> er, how do I tell ubuntu to start a initscript on boot? ;/
22:54 <tramshed> beats me
22:54 <luke-jr|work> wtf is tramshed ? :p
22:54 <guru3> put a symlink in /etc/rc.<runlevel>
22:54 <luke-jr|work> Lucifer_arma: probably update-rc.d or such
22:55 <tramshed> hah
22:55 <tramshed> I cant seem to compile a working kernel for this craptop
22:55 <tramshed> its irritating
22:55 <Lucifer_arma> ok, done
22:55 <tramshed> they all keep locking up partway through boot
22:55 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr|work: he's /dev/null
22:55 <tramshed> aye
22:55 <luke-jr|work> at least he's not another windozeluser
22:55 <tramshed> I just cant seem to remember that password
22:55 <luke-jr|work> oh, the old devnull?
22:55 <Lucifer_arma> nah, but he is an emo kid :)
22:56 <tramshed> hah, emo can suckle upon my nuggets
22:56 <guru3> the smoke was flaming, out of control
22:56 <guru3> it was so entertaining when the boogy started to explode
22:56 <Lucifer_arma> tramshed: sure it's the kernel and not some other thing, like udev?
22:56 <tramshed> not really offhand
22:57 <tramshed> I got irritated and tossed it
22:57 <tramshed> its not even my laptop
22:57 <tramshed> I lost all my hardware
22:57 <tramshed> dunno how happy they will be to get it back with a different OS
22:57 <tramshed> its hard to split up a 30gig hd to dual boot effectively when you download like I do too
22:57 <Lucifer_arma> probably won't notice
22:57 <Lucifer_arma> my own experience is nobody notices I'm not using windows
22:57 <tramshed> once I get a server Im going to put World Of Hate back up
22:58 <Lucifer_arma> even if they sit down to use it, they *still* don't notice
22:58 <tramshed> this line has good latentcy and an ok up
22:58 <tramshed> hah
22:58 <luke-jr|work> tramshed: I host Arma servers; http://lightfoot.dashjr.org
22:58 <Lucifer_arma> #quote get 47
22:58 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #47: "ooo, a fez. I would look awesome in a fez -- Lucifer_arma (2007-04-12 19:38)" (added by MrBougo at 08:48 AM, April 15, 2007)
22:58 <Lucifer_arma> #quote get 48
22:58 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #48: "i'm a woindwos user --MrBougo" (added by Lucifer_arma at 09:12 AM, June 24, 2007)
22:58 <tramshed> hah, im cheap
22:58 <Lucifer_arma> #quote get 49
22:58 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #49: "<ToddBot> #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo #echo !echo" (added by epsy at 03:52 PM, July 09, 2007)
22:58 <Lucifer_arma> oh nvm
22:58 <Lucifer_arma> #quote get 46
22:58 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: There is no Quote with id #46 in my database for #armagetron.
22:59 <Lucifer_arma> #quote get 45
22:59 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #45: "better an idiot that can admit it than a luke-jr....er, idiot that can't --GodTodd" (added by Lucifer_arma at 03:35 AM, March 12, 2007)
22:59 <Lucifer_arma> fine! I don't know which one it is!
22:59 <luke-jr|work> Lucifer_arma: you don't know much of anything
22:59 <tramshed> Ive got some pretty wicked webhosting though
22:59 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr|work doesn't like wickedness
22:59 <tramshed> Im gonna try to talk them into giving me shell access
22:59 <Lucifer_arma> it doesn't smell like jesus
22:59 <luke-jr|work> tramshed: I could do some webhosting with shell access
23:00 <tramshed> could you give me a TB of space and TB/monthly throughput?
23:00 <GodTodd> #quote get 21
23:00 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #21: "<Luke-Jr_work__> btw, pedophile is good" (added by spidey at 06:34 AM, September 09, 2006)
23:00 <tramshed> hah
23:00 <tramshed> I guess these guys were supposed to give us shell access anyways
23:01 <tramshed> so we basically just got bug em
23:01 <tramshed> run a coupla eggies and a tron server once I get it
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23:01 <luke-jr|work> tramshed: um, not TB of storage, but bw sure
23:02 <tramshed> heh, storage is an issue for me
23:02 <luke-jr|work> 200 GB perhaps
23:02 <tramshed> lol, theres more than that already there
23:02 <tramshed> pretty large ftp is involved
23:03 <luke-jr|work> how important is latency and reliability, then?
23:03 <tramshed> Once I get a box im just gonna run the server from here
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23:04 <tramshed> I get consistent low latentcy pings to a most places here
23:04 * epsy looks around himself
23:05 <tramshed> now, no more salesmanning out of you, heh
23:05 <luke-jr|work> tramshed: I seem to have about 40ms out to the net
23:05 <tramshed> pretty close to what I get
23:05 <tramshed> im around 50
23:05 <tramshed> they just installed all the crap out here because of a HUGE casino
23:05 <tramshed> so its in good condition and new lines
23:06 <luke-jr|work> hm
23:06 <tramshed> im about a quarter mile from said casino, so I reap the benefits
23:06 <luke-jr|work> and how much bw?
23:06 <tramshed> 3mbit
23:06 <tramshed> I could upgrade to 6
23:06 <luke-jr|work> ew
23:06 <luke-jr|work> my available tiers are 3, 7, and 12
23:06 <tramshed> tron uses like 20k,heh
23:07 <luke-jr|work> 6k per player, about
23:07 <luke-jr|work> and that's bytes
23:07 <tramshed> my web server has stupid bandwidth
23:07 <luke-jr|work> actually
23:07 <luke-jr|work> 6kbyte/sec per player sounds wrong
23:07 <tramshed> way wrong
23:07 <luke-jr|work> I forget :)
23:07 <tramshed> tron doesnt use jack
23:07 <luke-jr|work> maybe it was per minute or such
23:08 <tramshed> as long as you got good latentcy you can run a decent tron server
23:08 <tramshed> (Assuming you arnt tardcore)
23:08 <luke-jr|work> depends on upload bw and # of players
23:08 <tramshed> true, thats why you cap the server at the max you can handle
23:08 <luke-jr|work> :p
23:09 <tramshed> this stupid craptop couldnt run tron servers
23:09 <tramshed> it likes to choke when I run a bittorrent, websurf, and watch a movie at the same time
23:09 <tramshed> like total hardcore lockup
23:09 <luke-jr|work> sounds like wifi
23:09 <tramshed> nope
23:09 <luke-jr|work> yes it does
23:09 <luke-jr|work> :p
23:09 <tramshed> this things is too dumb to have wifi
23:10 <tramshed> I hate this laptop
23:10 <luke-jr|work> still sounds like it
23:10 <tramshed> sometimes the iokl,. keys stop working
23:10 <tramshed> I have to hit it until they come back
23:10 <luke-jr|work> tramshed: I would love to have your business hosting a high bandwidth website... I need an excuse to get business-class cable here ;)
23:11 <tramshed> lol
23:11 <tramshed> well, my current webserver is paid up pretty far in advance, hehe
23:11 <luke-jr|work> aw
23:11 <tramshed> my guy pays for it, I just stock it and manage the stuff on it
23:13 <tramshed> man
23:13 <tramshed> theres these two guys on vendetta speaking hungarian
23:13 <tramshed> its possibly the coolest language ever written
23:13 <epsy> no verbs ?
23:14 <epsy> or it extends on more lines easly, like in php ?
23:15 <luke-jr|work> digitx: hungary
23:15 <tramshed> [100] <Devil Dante> nekem nincs olyan [100] <Devil Dante> hallod amiet akarok en hajot annak 1-es is kell meg 2-tes is [100] <Devil Dante> en mek javitani neked nem kell ?
23:15 <tramshed> its entertaining as hell to watch these guys talk
23:16 <tramshed> I cant even catch the tiniest idea of wtf they are saying
23:16 <tramshed> but they have some pretty interestingly spelled words
23:17 <tramshed> wheee, decompressing a 500mb rar
23:17 <luke-jr|work> pfft, rar
23:17 <tramshed> I know, uha > *
23:17 <luke-jr|work> #last --from digitx --with hungary
23:18 <luke-jr|work> wtf is uha
23:18 <armabot> luke-jr|work: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 50000 messages.
23:18 <tramshed> slow as dirt
23:18 <tramshed> but ive seen it compress 500mb into 80mb before
23:18 <luke-jr|work> .......
23:18 <tramshed> its pretty impressive
23:18 <luke-jr|work> better than 7z?
23:18 <tramshed> dunno about 7z
23:18 <tramshed> never used 7z
23:19 <tramshed> I know you can spend a few hours compressing anything of size though
23:19 <tramshed> but it WILL compress
23:19 <luke-jr|work> never heard of uha
23:20 <tramshed> its not commonly used because of its speed
23:20 <tramshed> a lot of warez groups use it though because of the insane compression you can get
23:21 <tramshed> haha, stupid laptop is getting pwned by the rar
23:24 <tramshed> hrm, wikipedia claims the only thing better than uha is PAQ
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23:28 <luke-jr|work> tramshed: that's not in portage either
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Log from 2007-08-05:
--- Day changed Sun Aug 05 2007
00:21 -!- P4|away is now known as P4
00:23 -!- QUARG [n=marclizo@modemcable004.12-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #armagetron
00:23 <QUARG> hello
00:24 <epsy> hi QUARG
00:24 <QUARG> im doing some testing with the tron version 2.7 server
00:24 <QUARG> on mac
00:24 <epsy> 2.7 , O_o why using an olmd version ?
00:25 <epsy> *0.2.7 btw
00:25 <QUARG> and im not sure what the command line is
00:25 <epsy> ah
00:25 <QUARG> like i said testing :)
00:25 <epsy> hehe but why ? :P
00:25 <epsy> armagetronad-dedicated ?
00:25 <QUARG> ... line is to boot it
00:25 <QUARG> yes
00:25 <QUARG> its not the same as 2.8.2.1
00:26 <epsy> ah
00:26 <epsy> really ,
00:26 <QUARG> well it says file doesnt exist
00:26 <luke-jr|work> QUARG: 0.2.7 is ancient
00:26 <QUARG> ./armagetronad-dedicated --datadir . --configdir .
00:26 <epsy> « it's obsolete »
00:26 <luke-jr|work> unsupported
00:26 <epsy> wait...
00:26 <QUARG> and it wont run?
00:27 <epsy> you put both dyn data and cfg in the same dir ?
00:27 <luke-jr|work> if it doesn't, we probably won't care :p
00:27 <QUARG> that is the command line that i use for 2.8.2.1
00:27 <epsy> what's the output ?
00:27 <QUARG> lol
00:27 <QUARG> output?
00:27 <epsy> what prints after you entered the cmd
00:27 <QUARG> Last login: Fri Aug 3 23:22:15 on ttyp5
00:27 <QUARG> Welcome to Darwin!
00:27 <QUARG> modemcable004:~ marclizotte$ cd /Users/marclizotte/Desktop/Armagetron\ 0.2.7.1\ dedicated\ server/
00:27 <QUARG> modemcable004:~/Desktop/Armagetron 0.2.7.1 dedicated server marclizotte$ ./armagetronad-dedicated --datadir . --configdir .
00:27 <QUARG> -bash: ./armagetronad-dedicated: No such file or directory
00:27 <QUARG> modemcable004:~/Desktop/Armagetron 0.2.7.1 dedicated server marclizotte$
00:28 <luke-jr|work> Darwin was an idiot :)
00:28 <epsy> LOL!
00:28 <QUARG> so i hear
00:28 <epsy> QUARG, what does ls print ?
00:28 <luke-jr|work> QUARG: that's called user error
00:28 <epsy> i mean "ls"
00:28 <QUARG> lol
00:28 <QUARG> probably my fault
00:29 <luke-jr|work> definately your fault
00:29 <QUARG> thnx for confirming it
00:29 <epsy> QUARG, what does "ls" print ?
00:29 <luke-jr|work> QUARG: http://lightfoot.dashjr.org :)
00:29 <QUARG> i host 6 servers now luke
00:29 <QUARG> at home
00:29 <epsy> QUARG, and type /ignore luke-jr|work ALL in your irc :)
00:29 <QUARG> hehe
00:29 <epsy> :P
00:30 <QUARG> ooops gtg for a bit wifes homoe
00:30 <QUARG> lol homoe
00:30 <epsy> huhu what does ls do ?
00:30 <QUARG> wifes home
00:30 <epsy> ah
00:30 <luke-jr|work> QUARG: and they're probably lagghy
00:30 <QUARG> not too bad actually
00:30 <epsy> #serverinfo quarg
00:30 <armabot> epsy: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “quarg” at the moment, sorry.
00:30 <luke-jr|work> then they must be empty
00:31 <epsy> aaaahh because when you register by luke-jr|work he sends bots for you
00:31 <luke-jr|work> nah, but 6 servers full aren't going to work well on a residential connection
00:31 <QUARG> ok bbl
00:31 <QUARG> thnx
00:31 <luke-jr|work> unless full = 2 players
00:31 <QUARG> i know that they wont
00:31 <QUARG> but they are never full
00:32 <QUARG> i can run 1 full server with 6 and 1 with 4 or so and play at same time
00:32 <QUARG> srry to disapoint you
00:32 <epsy> luke-jr|work never gets disappointed
00:32 * epsy stfu
00:32 <QUARG> lol
00:33 * epsy armabot echo hi
00:33 <QUARG> ok really gtg bbl
00:33 <luke-jr|work> armabot: echo hi
00:33 <armabot> hi
00:33 <epsy> was wondering if it could work
00:33 <QUARG> srry to have stired you up and leave
00:33 <epsy> cu QUARG
00:33 * epsy restarts his WM
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00:48 <luke-jr|work> epsy: ...
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00:48 <epsy> luke-jr|work, i'm on this attitude too
00:49 <epsy> now my wm segfaulted 5 times
00:49 <luke-jr|work> why does your wm kill your IRC client?
00:49 * luke-jr|work killall kwin
00:50 <epsy> actually i'm closing it quitting gnome for trying to get my WM to run properly
00:51 <luke-jr|work> hmm
00:51 <luke-jr|work> that was a bad idea
00:51 <luke-jr|work> it moved all my virtual desktops into one
00:51 <epsy> what was a bad idea ? upgrading ?
00:51 <epsy> LOL!
00:52 <luke-jr|work> killing kwin
00:52 <epsy> haha nice
00:52 <luke-jr|work> http://rafb.net/p/u3a4sO86.html
00:52 <luke-jr|work> i need to figure out how to make that work
00:52 <luke-jr|work> tonight
00:52 <luke-jr|work> brb
00:53 <epsy> ah....are you crazy ?
00:53 <epsy> that's pretty munch impossible to have a so clear room
00:53 <epsy> oh that's supposed to be c++ ? ah sorry
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01:06 * digitx is away (bye)
01:15 <|Sticky|> #svn
01:15 <armabot> svn co https://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad <dirname>(more information: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Working_with_SVN)
01:16 <epsy> if you use thing command you'ill get the zonesV2 client which won't work with regular fortress
01:17 <luke-jr|work> epsy: ...
01:17 <luke-jr|work> epsy: who said it's clear?
01:17 <epsy> it looks like that :P
01:18 <luke-jr|work> shall I fill in the "misc boxes everywhere temp"?
01:19 <epsy> |Sticky|, <epsy> if you use thing command you'ill get the zonesV2 client which won't work with regular fortress
01:19 <epsy> yes yes yes!
01:22 <Lucifer_arma> I suppose I should get my server back up real quick
01:22 <|Sticky|> ??
01:22 <Lucifer_arma> game server
01:22 <Lucifer_arma> got the master server going
01:23 <luke-jr|work> http://rafb.net/p/4GyyLu73.html
01:23 <Lucifer_arma> took down my gameserver when I uninstalled the autopackage that I had installed and compiled from source
01:23 <luke-jr|work> epsy: that somewhat better?
01:23 <luke-jr|work> it's a "planned layout"
01:23 <|Sticky|> whats the svn for the latest stable release?
01:23 <luke-jr|work> #svn
01:23 <armabot> svn co https://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad <dirname>(more information: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Working_with_SVN)
01:23 <luke-jr|work> replace 'trunk' with 'branches/0.2.8'
01:23 <|Sticky|> ahh ok
01:24 <luke-jr|work> |Sticky|: or bug #gentoo-overlays to fix the overlay
01:24 <epsy> luke-jr|work, you forgot the mess!!!!!11111ONE1
01:25 <luke-jr|work> epsy: the mess is currently where the couch is
01:26 <epsy> it should be kinda translucent then
01:26 <luke-jr|work> ...
01:26 <epsy> :D
01:27 <luke-jr|work> epsy: how about I just do a stinkin panorama?
01:27 <Lucifer_arma> oops, looks like I lost the settings
01:27 <Lucifer_arma> that was dumb
01:27 <luke-jr|work> yeah
01:27 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, I should check the backup
01:30 <Lucifer_arma> oh well, I'll use the missing settings as an excuse to get armastart into better shape
01:31 <spidey> <tokage> ha ha 'geek' weddings - "Do you, GandalfGreyhame, take cyndrekit to be your lawfully wedded wife in uptime and down, for low processing power and high, till someone unplugs the power cord
01:31 <epsy> O_o
01:36 <|Sticky|> have there been any reported issues with using arma on a nvidia 1750gt or in dual monitor setups?
01:37 <|Sticky|> ahh dont worry..working now i compiled my own
01:37 <|Sticky|> the feisty 64 bit package from the site had issues however
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02:09 <spidey> hmm
02:09 <epsy> hmm indeed
02:12 <noob7> so whats the cheapeast registrar for co.ck domains?
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02:13 <noob7> any idea?
02:14 <epsy> #google co.ck
02:14 <armabot> epsy: Search took 0.09 seconds: Trashbat. co.ck: <http://www.trashbat.co.ck/>; Google: <http://www.google.co.ck/>; The Cook Islands: <http://www.webcentral.co.ck/>; The Rarotongan Beach Resort: <http://www.rarotongan.co.ck/>; Welcome to TCI: <http://www.telecom.co.ck/>; Vara's Accommodation - Rarotonga Cook Islands: <http://www.varas.co.ck/>; Page One - index to Cook Islands News (1 more message)
02:15 <epsy> #wikipedia co.ck
02:15 <armabot> epsy: Search took 0.13 seconds: .ck - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.ck>; Nathan Barley - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Barley>; Chris Morris (satirist) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Morris_(satirist)>; List of fictional online services - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: (2 more messages)
02:15 <epsy> cu
02:15 <noob7> dude.... epsy?
02:15 <noob7> cI've been googling
02:15 <epsy> kewl
02:15 <noob7> 200 euro for a tld?
02:15 <epsy> see on wikipedia for the land's page
02:16 <noob7> hm ok will do
02:16 <epsy> then look for it's registrar
02:16 <epsy> they always have a link for that
02:16 <epsy> hmm too nerdy
02:17 <spidey> anyone know how i'd show ip's that iptables are dropping?
02:17 <spidey> googlefail >.>
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02:19 <noob7> that registrar sucks
02:20 * noob7 wants http://huge.co.ck
02:20 <noob7> but that site isnt helping
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02:26 <noob7> The Domain Name Registration maintenance fee for organisations or individuals who do not reside in the Cook Islands is US$150.00* for 2 years registration.
02:26 <noob7> fuck
02:27 <noob7> but I need a http://huge.co.uk
02:27 <noob7> cco.ck even
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02:31 <tramshed> afraid has shitdick.co.uk
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02:36 <spidey> http://photobucket.com/mediadetail/?media=http%3A%2F%2Fi0006.photobucket.com%2Fremix%2Fplayer.swf%3FvideoURL%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fvid0006.photobucket.com%252Falbums%252F0006%252Fpbhomepage%252Fremix%252F4b376931.pbr%26hostname%3Dstream0006.photobucket.com&searchTerm=Dance&pageOffset=0&browseAction=search&ref=home
02:36 <spidey> rofl
02:41 <DrJoeTron> get off the internet
02:41 <DrJoeTron> tia
02:41 <spidey> http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2564/99089953qi4.jpg
02:41 <spidey> :>
02:42 <DrJoeTron> ascii/unicode names will forever be the coolest thing ever
02:43 <DrJoeTron> XTEEEEM
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04:04 <xfroggy> is Monkey ever in here?
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07:41 <MrBougo> hihoo
07:44 <xfroggy> boo!
07:46 <MrBougo> xfroggy!
07:46 <MrBougo> been a while!
07:46 * MrBougo is now playing: Axwell - I Found You (Dubfire Remix)
07:46 <MrBougo> weee
07:47 <xfroggy> MrBougo !
07:47 <xfroggy> :D
07:47 <MrBougo> >:DD
07:47 <xfroggy> :o)
08:32 <MrBougo> o< :{ )
08:45 <MrBougo> i start working tomorrow :(
08:47 -!- P4|away is now known as P4
08:53 <spidey> i love it when a malicious group of people call themselves "a security group"
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09:00 <hulett> Better. :D
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09:05 <MrBougo> grapling hook is boring
09:05 <hulett> Grapling hook? In tron?
09:06 <MrBougo> haha
09:06 <MrBougo> no, in nexuiz
09:06 <MrBougo> grappling hook in tron would be nice though
09:08 <hulett> I can't see how it would be. :P
09:11 <MrBougo> either
09:21 <spidey> grrr
09:21 <spidey> if it's not ugly chicks
09:21 <spidey> it's hot psycho chicks that might have a gun
09:21 <spidey> i tend to run from both
09:22 <MrBougo> ??
09:22 <MrBougo> take you GRAPPLING HOOK then
09:22 <MrBougo> and tell them that you're a grappling hooker
09:22 <spidey> lol
09:22 <MrBougo> take your*
10:08 <tramshed> MLCAD owns
10:16 <tramshed> dude, my favorite VO player is back
10:16 <tramshed> [100] <Obsitos> mi lenne ha te elmennel egy masik szektorba es megnezned hogy mit vesznek jol
10:16 <tramshed> man, thats a fuckin language
10:34 <MrBougo> ?
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11:31 <DrJoeTron> hurp durp
11:43 <MrBougo> hui
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11:58 <Ill00> has epsi been around?
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12:14 <MrBougo> epsy you mean
12:14 <MrBougo> #seen epsy
12:14 <armabot> MrBougo: epsy was last seen in #armagetron 9 hours, 57 minutes, and 52 seconds ago: <epsy> hmm too nerdy
12:14 <MrBougo> bye
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12:20 <theocrite> Grind 180 and some more.
12:20 <theocrite> Hey LB... Errr I mean hulett
12:21 <tramshed> ?
12:22 <theocrite> In rubber we trust.
12:23 <theocrite> Naaa, nvm, it's just that hulett used to call himself LB.
12:24 <tramshed> indeed
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13:02 <beta_usa> oi oi
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13:06 <epsy> hi
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13:40 <spidey> <spidey> i think it maybe time to brush up on my armagetron skillz ;D
13:40 <spidey> <spidey> tonight, vampires must sleep during the day
13:40 <spidey> <spidey> #night
13:40 <spidey> <spidey> wait
13:40 <spidey> <spidey> totally wrong channel
13:40 <spidey> xD
13:40 <spidey> #night
13:40 <armabot> Good night spidey!
13:43 <epsy> lol
14:00 <noob13> #insult armabot
14:00 <armabot> armabot - You are nothing but an evil ooze of left-over fat.
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14:08 <MrBougo> hiho
14:08 <digitx> hay
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14:12 <MrBougo> hoy
14:18 <epsy> O_o
14:18 <epsy> got back on E =)
14:18 <MrBougo> ?
14:18 <MrBougo> E?
14:18 <MrBougo> E-psi?
14:18 <epsy> i wish i had a better gfx card :\/
14:18 <epsy> i miss bling and transparent terms xD
14:21 <DrJoeTron> #serverinfo shrunk
14:21 <armabot> DrJoeTron: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “shrunk” at the moment, sorry.
14:21 <DrJoeTron> FUCKERS
14:21 <epsy> it's just so nice with dark themes
14:21 <epsy> indeed
14:26 <epsy> brb
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14:42 <DrJoeTron> #serverinfo shrunk
14:42 <armabot> DrJoeTron: Shrunkland in 2.8.2: No online players.
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15:13 <MrBougo> stuck at level 13
15:13 <MrBougo> need a java decompiler
15:13 <|Sticky|> what you doing??
15:13 <epsy> in nex ? O_o
15:14 <MrBougo> |Sticky|: a "hack" challenge
15:14 <MrBougo> find the password
15:14 <|Sticky|> ohh where?
15:29 <MrBougo> waiy
15:30 <MrBougo> http://www.isatcis.com
15:41 <MrBougo> |Sticky|: ?
15:42 <|Sticky|> ?
15:52 <MrBougo> bye
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16:33 <kidanger> hi
16:33 -!- hoop_tron [n=john@ip-182-241.sn1.eutelia.it] has joined #armagetron
16:34 <kidanger> Where can I found HTF settings ? and a map ?
16:42 <kidanger> P4 ?
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17:06 <kidanger> noBoDy KnoW ?
17:07 * beta_usa is conffuzled
17:18 <beta_usa> You all suck, I want a new team.
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17:22 <P4> kidanger: what is HTF?
17:22 <kidanger> hold the flag
17:22 <P4> you mean CTF?
17:22 <kidanger> nope
17:22 <P4> what the hell is hold the flag? :P
17:22 <noob7> well p4... you hold the flag
17:23 <hoop_tron> wild west htf, neevr tryied?
17:23 <P4> nope :P
17:23 <noob7> there was a nano server with htf, it was funny
17:23 <hoop_tron> the wild west one, where players can vote to change the game
17:23 <P4> dunno, ask Durak... he's the WW admin iirc
17:23 <hoop_tron> there was htf too
17:23 <hoop_tron> *there is
17:24 <hoop_tron> I like it, but not to play long time
17:24 <hoop_tron> it makes me too nervous
17:25 <P4> hehe, ok im out... later
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17:25 <kidanger> Your_mom/clever/twoxdentedsquare-0.0.2.aamap.xml where I can found that map ?
17:25 <|Sticky|> probably like king of the hill
17:26 <P4|away> kidanger: http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/Your_mom/clever/twoxdentedsquare-0.0.2.aamap.xml
17:26 * P4|away is really out
17:26 <kidanger> ty
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18:54 <spidey_> i suggest
18:54 <spidey_> noone get a belkin -.-
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19:07 <epsy> hay
19:07 * epsy is back
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19:46 <hoop_tron> epsy: match?!?!?!
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19:59 <epsy> it's at 7pm GMT
20:00 <epsy> hoop_tron,
20:00 <spidey> lies and schandels
20:03 <epsy> indeed
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20:12 <epsy> #lastseen -f Monkey
20:12 <armabot> epsy: Monkey has last been seen on Wild West =Capture The Flag= ~Multi~Mode~ 1 hour 34 minutes ago.
20:12 <xfroggy> monkey ever shows up in here?
20:13 <MrBougo> sometimes
20:13 <MrBougo> #seen Monkey_tron
20:13 <armabot> MrBougo: I have not seen Monkey_tron.
20:13 <MrBougo> #seen Monkey-tron
20:13 <xfroggy> lol
20:13 <armabot> MrBougo: I have not seen Monkey-tron.
20:13 <MrBougo> whatever
20:13 <xfroggy> :D
20:13 <hoop_tron> #Mopnkey_arma
20:13 <MrBougo> #last --from monkey
20:13 <hoop_tron> ops
20:14 <MrBougo> crap
20:14 <MrBougo> #realchatlogs
20:14 <armabot> MrBougo: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 50000 messages.
20:14 <hoop_tron> #seen Monkey_arma
20:14 <epsy> #seen Monkey_arma
20:14 <armabot> MrBougo: http://master3.armagetronad.net/armalogs/
20:14 <MrBougo> lol
20:14 <armabot> hoop_tron: Monkey_arma was last seen in #armagetron 1 day, 1 hour, 48 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <Monkey_arma> older than i thought
20:14 <armabot> epsy: Monkey_arma was last seen in #armagetron 1 day, 1 hour, 48 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <Monkey_arma> older than i thought
20:14 <MrBougo> see?
20:14 <MrBougo> :ee
20:14 <epsy> haha note the 1 second difference
20:14 <epsy> #any Monkey_arma
20:14 <armabot> epsy: Monkey_arma was last seen in #armagetron 1 day, 1 hour, 10 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: *** Monkey_arma has quit IRC ("Leaving")
20:15 <MrBougo> #help any
20:15 <armabot> MrBougo: (any [<channel>] [--user <name>] [<nick>]) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen doing. This includes any form of activity, instead of just PRIVMSGs. If <nick> isn't specified, returns the last activity seen in <channel>. If --user is specified, looks up name in the user database and returns the last time user was active in <channel>. <channel> is only (1 more message)
20:15 <MrBougo> #help sen
20:15 <armabot> MrBougo: Error: There is no command "sen".
20:15 <MrBougo> #help seen
20:15 <armabot> MrBougo: (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself.
20:15 <hoop_tron> epsy: who is in other team?
20:15 <xfroggy> mix of people :)
20:15 <epsy> http://tr.1c3d.net/YaBB.pl
20:15 <xfroggy> epsy, no :(
20:15 <epsy> http://tr.1c3d.net/YaBB.pl?action=ml
20:15 <MrBougo> #more
20:15 <armabot> MrBougo: necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself.
20:15 <MrBougo> #any --user MrBougo
20:15 <xfroggy> just me and dook :(
20:16 <armabot> MrBougo: MrBougo was last seen in #armagetron 16 weeks, 0 days, 9 hours, 7 minutes, and 24 seconds ago: *** MrBougo has quit IRC ("Leaving")
20:16 <MrBougo> #any MrBougo
20:16 <MrBougo> the hell
20:16 <armabot> MrBougo: MrBougo was last seen in #armagetron 14 seconds ago: <MrBougo> #any --user MrBougo
20:16 <MrBougo> MrBougo was last seen in #armagetron 16 weeks, 0 days, 9 hours, 7 minutes, and 24 seconds ago
20:16 <MrBougo> what else
20:16 <MrBougo> #seen MrBougo
20:16 <armabot> MrBougo: MrBougo was last seen in #armagetron 3 seconds ago: <MrBougo> what else
20:16 <akira_> #tea
20:16 <armabot> akira_: Fortress Café: Players (7/32): Abrysztomytonom, Gutsy, HAVLIK, HªMª®5-11F/Sec, IkRa, Oز׳ Wa!Ze, ~-_z se
20:16 <hoop_tron> only you online there?
20:16 <akira_> :o
20:17 <xfroggy> Oo
20:17 <MrBougo> #any --user MrBougo
20:17 <armabot> MrBougo: MrBougo was last seen in #armagetron 16 weeks, 0 days, 9 hours, 8 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: *** MrBougo has quit IRC ("Leaving")
20:17 <MrBougo> i dont get it
20:17 <MrBougo> #any --user epsy
20:17 <armabot> MrBougo: epsy was last seen in #armagetron 1 minute and 34 seconds ago: <epsy> http://tr.1c3d.net/YaBB.pl?action=ml
20:17 <akira_> lol
20:17 <MrBougo> :/
20:17 <akira_> you are clearly a fake!
20:17 <epsy> http://turbo.ibpfree.com/
20:18 <epsy> #last --with .er/
20:18 <akira_> ?
20:18 <armabot> epsy: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 50000 messages.
20:18 <epsy> hmpf
20:18 <MrBougo> hehe
20:18 <epsy> http://stats.break.er/
20:18 <epsy> http://stats.break.er/
20:18 <epsy> http://stats.break.er/
20:18 <epsy> http://stats.break.er/
20:18 <xfroggy> Oo
20:18 <hoop_tron> repeat please?
20:19 <epsy> http://stats.break.er/
20:19 <hoop_tron> hmm, dont work, another plz
20:19 <MrBougo> 404
20:19 <xfroggy> server not found lol
20:19 <MrBougo> #ircstats
20:19 <armabot> http://www.electricpotential.net/ircstats/armagetron.html
20:19 <MrBougo> top 12!
20:19 <epsy> MrBougo, that's exactly the stats i'm trying to break
20:20 <MrBougo> huh
20:20 <MrBougo> lol
20:20 <xfroggy> spammer ^
20:20 <hoop_tron> so, I guess there's no match tonight
20:20 <MrBougo> "break"?
20:20 <xfroggy> why not?
20:20 <MrBougo> 10551 messages!
20:20 <epsy> hoop_tron, be patient....30 minutes left XD
20:20 <hoop_tron> k
20:20 <MrBougo> philippeqc wont get me
20:20 <hoop_tron> Im gonna play, please IM me on #tards ok?
20:20 <MrBougo> xfroggy: 1343 msgs
20:21 <xfroggy> me?
20:21 <MrBougo> turds?
20:21 <hoop_tron> epsy:
20:21 <epsy> hoop_tron,
20:21 <hoop_tron> epsy:
20:21 <hoop_tron> epsy: Im gonna play, please IM me on #tards ok?
20:21 <epsy> ok ok
20:21 <hoop_tron> kkkk
20:21 <epsy> where will you play ?
20:21 <MrBougo> there about server think would right should really could something a me not
20:21 <hoop_tron> hehe, not hard to guess
20:22 <akira_> cafe?
20:22 <xfroggy> cafe?
20:22 <akira_> ..
20:22 <xfroggy> -.-
20:22 <MrBougo> and i wont ping the other
20:22 <hoop_tron> cafe?
20:22 <MrBougo> s
20:22 <MrBougo> rofl hoop and frog
20:22 <akira_> ok ill be there too
20:22 <hoop_tron> get a tea
20:22 <xfroggy> yay cafe :D
20:22 <hoop_tron> it's tea time
20:22 <MrBougo> epsy :(
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20:23 <MrBougo> epsy: (to #armagetron) ?.??
20:23 <MrBougo> wtf?
20:23 <epsy> haha try /ctcp epsy version
20:23 <epsy> ^\^
20:23 <epsy> *^_^
20:23 <MrBougo> amen
20:23 <epsy> amen
20:23 <epsy> O_o
20:23 <MrBougo> xD
20:24 <epsy> je cherche une réponse appropriiée
20:24 <MrBougo> Antananarivo?
20:24 <epsy> ok
20:25 <epsy> vas-y :P
20:25 <MrBougo> xD
20:25 <epsy> XD
20:26 <MrBougo> did you try out the gorrillaz remix epsy ?
20:26 <MrBougo> it sounded better to me when i heard it for the first time
20:26 <MrBougo> now i think it's lost its taste
20:26 * epsy looks in his chat archives
20:26 <MrBougo> ?
20:27 <epsy> i have the link back xD
20:27 <epsy> rapid share sux btw
20:27 <xfroggy> no it dont :/
20:28 <epsy> it does
20:28 <epsy> to get to dl something you need at least 5 clicks
20:28 <xfroggy> i got rs script :/
20:28 <epsy> MrBougo, ctcp epsy epsy
20:29 <epsy> i can send mails to my hosting service with the files to host as attached pieces
20:29 <epsy> so kewl
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20:50 <xfroggy> mkzelda, ping :D
20:54 <epsy> mkzelda, ping :D
20:56 <xfroggy> epsy, -.-
20:57 <epsy> xfroggy, -.-
20:58 <xfroggy> :)
21:03 <epsy> #lastseen dook
21:03 <epsy> #lastseen mkz
21:03 <armabot> epsy: timed out
21:03 <armabot> epsy: timed out
21:03 <epsy> O_o
21:13 <MrBougo> #lastseen bougo
21:13 <armabot> MrBougo: Mr. Bougo has last been seen on Fortress Café 23 hours 59 minutes ago.
21:13 <MrBougo> yay
21:13 <MrBougo> 23 hours 59 mins
21:13 <MrBougo> #lastseen bougo
21:13 <armabot> MrBougo: Mr. Bougo has last been seen on Fortress Café 23 hours 59 minutes ago.
21:13 <MrBougo> want 24 hours!
21:14 <MrBougo> #lastseen bougo
21:14 <armabot> MrBougo: Mr. Bougo has last been seen on Fortress Café 1 day 0 hours 0 minutes ago.
21:14 <MrBougo> yay!
21:21 <MrBougo> http://www.explosm.net/comics/978/
21:21 <MrBougo> haaha
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21:25 <MrBougo> there about server think would right should really could something a me not
21:25 <MrBougo> #monologue
21:25 <armabot> MrBougo: Your current monologue is at least 11 lines long.
21:25 <MrBougo> .
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21:29 <MrBougo> bye
21:30 <MrBougo> wish me good luck for my first work day
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22:14 <xfroggy> that was fun :D
22:29 <epsy> i hated that idle kick
22:43 <epsy> http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/140920110/article.pl
22:43 <epsy> omg...
22:57 <xfroggy> lmao, thats lame
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22:58 <spidey> lamegeddon :o
22:58 <xfroggy> m$ never fails to amuse me
23:09 <spidey> nothing fails to amuse me
23:19 <spidey> <^Baka^> I wish there was a unix command called train
23:19 <spidey> <^Baka^> then someone would eventually have to type man train
23:32 <DrJoeTron> M$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
23:32 <DrJoeTron> AGHHGGHGHHGHGHGHGHH
23:33 <DrJoeTron> people actually use MSN?
23:34 <spidey> < crschmidt> No software is bug free
23:34 <spidey> < FrankW> #/bin/sh
23:34 <spidey> < FrankW> echo "Hello World"
23:34 <spidey> < FrankW> That's pretty bug free.
23:34 <spidey> < crschmidt> FrankW: you missed a !
23:34 <spidey> pwned *10
23:34 <DrJoeTron> spidey can we join this channel
23:35 <spidey> bash.org ftw
23:35 <DrJoeTron> i feel like I already know thse people
23:35 <luke-jr|work> lol
23:36 <spidey> http://bash.org/?769220
23:36 <spidey> that's for luke-jr|work
23:39 <luke-jr|work> haha
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23:54 <spidey> <Mike> We should have internet rings like Captain Planet.
23:54 <spidey> <skauert> TCP, UDP, FTP, SSH, HTTP
23:54 <spidey> <skauert> By your protocols combined
23:54 <spidey> <skauert> I'm captain internet
23:54 <spidey> xD
23:54 <epsy> lol
23:54 <epsy> you're on bash.org ?
23:54 <spidey> yes ma'am
23:55 <epsy> because that's not what's on #tremulous now :P
23:55 <spidey> ?
23:55 <spidey> btw
23:55 <spidey> you play tremulous?
Log from 2007-08-06:
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00:00 <epsy> a bit sometimes ^_^
00:00 <spidey> should check out the fa servers :)
00:01 <epsy> US server ?
00:01 <spidey> ya
00:02 <epsy> jeez
00:03 <epsy> my ping already suck in EU servers
00:03 <epsy> so gues how it would be in US servrs -_-
00:05 <spidey> heh
00:06 <epsy> not talking about my fps
00:06 <epsy> even worse
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00:46 <Lucifer_arma> Bush pledges federal help to quickly rebuild collapsed bridge <--- I hope they rebuild it quicker than they rebuilt the WTC
00:50 <luke-jr|work> I need to find a good X11 proxy servre
00:50 <luke-jr|work> any ideas?
00:52 <tramshed> not off hand
00:52 <Lucifer_arma> x11 proxy server?
00:54 <Lucifer_arma> xdmx, according to google
00:55 <Lucifer_arma> all the rest I'm seeing are home-brews
00:58 <luke-jr|work> hm
00:59 <luke-jr|work> looks like it proxies in the opposite direction O.o
01:00 <luke-jr|work> what I really need is something that actually does what NX claims to do
01:01 <Lucifer_arma> so, for example, run a windows program on a remote server, but only get the program itself on your client, rather than a whole windows desktop?
01:02 <Lucifer_arma> or, run an x11 program on one server, another one on another server, but they run in your desktop environment?
01:02 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, you refering to xterm?
01:02 <Lucifer_arma> no
01:03 <Lucifer_arma> I'm talking about where you pick some application in your application menu, but the application runs on a remote server rather than your local machine
01:03 <Lucifer_arma> but it's transparent, you don't know or care that it's running somewhere else
01:03 <spidey> http://www.mail-archive.com/plash-commits@gna.org/msg00526.html
01:03 <Lucifer_arma> most of what's out there right now lets you do a terminal type setup pretty easily
01:04 <Lucifer_arma> but they make it hard to connect individual applications, you usually wind up doing those by hand in a terminal window
01:04 <spidey> http://www.mail-archive.com/plash-commits@gna.org/msg00526.html
01:04 <spidey> that?
01:04 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know, I'm trying to figure out what luke wants
01:04 <spidey> you...doing something for...luke....
01:05 <Lucifer_arma> ? I didn't say I was doing anything for luke
01:05 <luke-jr|work> Lucifer_arma: ssh -X that persists across connection loss
01:05 <Lucifer_arma> ummm, run it through screen?
01:05 <luke-jr|work> screen doesn't cover X
01:05 <luke-jr|work> does it?
01:06 <Lucifer_arma> beats me, but that's what I'd try first :)
01:06 <luke-jr|work> last I checked, screen only works with console apps
01:06 <spidey> wait
01:06 <spidey> i misread
01:06 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know, and I don't know anything else that'll help you. I was seeing if I could direct you to ltsp, but apparently not
01:06 <spidey> i thought lucifer was asking for the proxy thingy
01:06 <spidey> xD
01:07 <Lucifer_arma> although ltsp might have an answer for you, it's not well documented
01:07 <|Sticky|> screen wont keep a broken ssh connection going altho you could set up a script to run inside screen to reconnect everytime it drops
01:08 <luke-jr|work> |Sticky|: the X11 session is the problem
01:08 <Lucifer_arma> even if you ssh to the server, run screen, then ssh to localhost (still the server) ?
01:08 <spidey> ...
01:08 <spidey> i don't understand
01:08 <spidey> why not use rdesktop?
01:08 <Lucifer_arma> that's for windows
01:08 <spidey> vnc?
01:09 <tramshed> wheee, kernel recompile
01:09 <spidey> x11 terminal session?
01:09 <Lucifer_arma> and it's not a solution anyway, luke wants the application to not get killed
01:09 <spidey> vnc?
01:09 <Lucifer_arma> basically, spidey, when the x11 server drops connection (remember server/client are reversed in x11 land), the client application gets killed
01:09 <luke-jr|work> spidey: VNC is slow and contains its own session
01:10 <Lucifer_arma> luke wants the x11 client to survive and keep running, and when he reconnects, have it restored
01:10 <spidey> a screen gui?
01:10 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, screen for x11 :)
01:10 <|Sticky|> hmm interesting
01:10 <|Sticky|> never heard of anything that does that
01:11 <tramshed> I used to know how to do it
01:11 <Lucifer_arma> he probably also wants an autoreconnect thing going, for patchy wifi connections
01:11 <tramshed> but my brainis toast
01:11 <|Sticky|> well scripting a reconnect is asy making it persist is the problem
01:11 <Lucifer_arma> yep )
01:11 <Lucifer_arma> :)
01:12 <spidey> wtf is luke using wifi for anyways
01:12 <luke-jr|work> Lucifer_arma: I can reconnect manually
01:12 <spidey> don't turn on the microwave!
01:13 * luke-jr|work microwaves spidey
01:13 <spidey> onlything i use wifi for is the laptop, because i don't give a shit if it's connected or not :p
01:14 <Lucifer_arma> I use wifi all the time, and my connection is very nice
01:14 <Lucifer_arma> but I don't run x11 sessions over it, either
01:14 <Lucifer_arma> my ltsp client is wired to the network
01:14 <luke-jr|work> I am turning my laptop into my only workstation
01:14 <spidey> i don't think what luke wants exsists
01:14 <spidey> ;p
01:15 <spidey> google phail = bad
01:15 <|Sticky|> Lucifer_arma: http://hpux.cs.utah.edu/hppd/hpux/X11/Core/xplaces-0.3/ a possibility
01:15 <Lucifer_arma> try the ssh/screen/ssh thing and see what happens
01:15 <tramshed> heh, you cant screen x11 im pretty sure
01:16 <Lucifer_arma> you're not screening x11, you're screening ssh and running an x11 app inside it
01:16 <Lucifer_arma> which means the ssh client is managing the session
01:16 <Lucifer_arma> er, nvm, that didn't make sense
01:16 <spidey> haha
01:17 <Lucifer_arma> and probably won't work, but takes 5 minutes to test :)
01:17 <tramshed> ascii X!
01:18 <tramshed> layman told me to go suck myself off btw
01:18 <luke-jr|work> NoMachine NX works... but it's proprietary :/
01:18 <Lucifer_arma> License: GNU General Public License (GPL)
01:18 <Lucifer_arma> URL: http://freshmeat.net/projects/nx/
01:18 <|Sticky|> tramshed: did you?
01:18 <tramshed> nah, im lazy
01:19 <luke-jr|work> Lucifer_arma: the lib is GPL
01:19 <luke-jr|work> not the full thing
01:19 <Lucifer_arma> if the lib is gpl, the app must be
01:19 <Lucifer_arma> the app that links to it
01:20 * tramshed points out that x-chat on windows is a 30 day trial and then you have to pay for it
01:21 <luke-jr|work> or both have the same author
01:21 <luke-jr|work> tramshed: or you remove that from the code and recompile yourself
01:21 <spidey> tramshed, i have a crack :)
01:21 <tramshed> aye, but once again, im lazy
01:21 <spidey> it's a patched .exe
01:22 <tramshed> I hope this new kernel boots
01:22 <tramshed> I hate it when my kernels dont work
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01:34 <spidey> yay
01:34 <spidey> i know a guy
01:34 <spidey> that is a leader of a security group
01:34 <spidey> and
01:34 <spidey> is a hacker
01:34 <spidey> because he can bind a key in a game, using /bind, and pm spam people out of fa trem servers
01:35 <spidey> leet! /me runs
01:35 <tramshed> heh
01:35 <tramshed> spam doesnt bother me
01:35 <spidey> nono
01:35 <spidey> it's not spam
01:35 <spidey> it's like a DoS
01:36 <tramshed> what is fa trem?
01:36 <spidey> picture it like this, they flood you with pms so much, the gameserver floods them out of the game
01:36 <spidey> fa = fallin-angels and trem = tremulous
01:36 <tramshed> ah
01:36 <tramshed> I thought you were referring to armagetron
01:36 <spidey> nope :p
01:37 <spidey> he's even so leet
01:38 <tramshed> Heh, I made it into the source code comments of an MMO
01:38 <spidey> he posted a video on youtube, of him using a well-known teamspeak exploit(program) he didn't make, just clicking buttons and flooding a server
01:38 <tramshed> I found some interesting holes
01:38 <spidey> what mmo?
01:38 <tramshed> vendetta-online
01:38 <spidey> never heard of it :p
01:38 <tramshed> not a huge one
01:38 <tramshed> good player base though
01:39 <tramshed> and the devs are accessible
01:39 <spidey> that's not everything though...
01:39 <tramshed> well, its also quite fun, heh
01:39 <spidey> are they assholes, or cool peoples, that makes all the difference :)
01:39 <tramshed> they just opened up thier lua interface to us so we can add out own stuff in
01:40 <tramshed> oh, they are cool as hell
01:40 <tramshed> momerath said hell give me a free year if I write him an ingame term emulator
01:40 <spidey> nice
01:40 <tramshed> and Incarnate (Head Dev) updates me on protocol changes so I can poke holes in the test servers
01:40 <spidey> http://www.tremulous.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5768
01:40 <tramshed> heh, no intarweb yet
01:40 <spidey> haxzors :(!
01:41 <tramshed> compilin firefox now
01:41 <tramshed> the cool thing is that the devs play occasionally too, you can get some revenge
01:41 <tramshed> "THIS IS FOR NERFING THE MOTH" BOOOOOM
01:42 <tramshed> the game has a twitch based combat system which I lofe
01:42 <tramshed> f=v
01:42 <tramshed> you can have really crappy equipment and still pwn someone with high level stuff if you are skilled enough
01:42 <spidey> what i hate
01:43 <spidey> is a community with good devs, but the community itself is assholes
01:43 <spidey> as you can see in this post :)
01:43 <tramshed> this community is pretty good, heh
01:43 <tramshed> we got a couple, but they are known and ignored
01:43 <spidey> they all resort to flaming, some at me, and i posted info so they could ban the malicious users!
01:43 <spidey> that's a pretty fucked community
01:43 <tramshed> its very crossplatform, so we get all kinds
01:44 <tramshed> windows/linux/osx even have some nonsupported solaris and bsd ports
01:45 <spidey> i'll look into it :)
01:45 <spidey> tho
01:45 <spidey> just what i need...
01:45 <spidey> another addiction
01:45 <tramshed> haha
01:45 <tramshed> Im pretty addicted
01:45 * spidey looks at a 20gb /games folder
01:45 <tramshed> theres a lot of room for customization as well in it
01:45 <tramshed> the new lua interface is great
01:45 <tramshed> access to all the games internals pretty much
01:46 <tramshed> Incarnate wants me to go find all the holes in it yet
01:46 <spidey> nice
01:46 <spidey> wow
01:46 <tramshed> we have a working relationship, I find all the exploits, and they dont ban me when I fire devbeams or capital ships at people on accident
01:47 <tramshed> or crash sectors
01:47 <spidey> these guys stated that they where gonna start cracking rcon passwords, so, since for tremulous a wrapper would be pretty easy to make, i said if it became a problem for our servers, and others i'd post a wrapper that'd use iptables to autoban after x-amount of failed tries
01:48 <spidey> he even quoted it, and still totally went off about something else , that's pretty irrelivant itself
01:48 <tramshed> hah
01:48 <tramshed> I hate dumbasses on forums
01:48 <spidey> this kid's 16
01:48 <spidey> 16!
01:48 <tramshed> he talking about bruting them?
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01:48 <spidey> yes
01:48 <spidey> which btw
01:49 <tramshed> you could still do it with something like proxychains, but it would take forever
01:49 <spidey> the stuff he's already done to our servers could be concidered a cybercrime
01:49 <spidey> so i'm waiting for the logs showing him trying to bruteforce it
01:49 <spidey> so i can report it to his isp
01:49 <tramshed> return the favor?
01:49 <tramshed> he play the game?
01:49 <spidey> yea
01:49 <tramshed> there you go, free ticket in
01:50 <spidey> i've actually concidered posting on the fa fourms (that he reads, and attempts to spam) a trap :D
01:50 <spidey> he's retarded enough to fall for it...
01:50 <tramshed> lol
01:55 <spidey> he would shit
01:55 <spidey> mommy would be like "what did you do to get our isp account suspended?!?!?!?!"
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02:52 <spidey> i wonder if it'd be possible to proxy your entire connection O.o
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03:04 <GodTodd> well crap....terry brooks is fixin' to harry potter our sorry asses :/
03:19 <Lucifer_arma> he's going to write harry potter books?
03:19 <digitx> .
03:28 <Lucifer_arma> you mean warner brothers buying the rights to the shannara books?
03:28 <Lucifer_arma> they could do it real justice, to be honest. Just like the lord of the rings, since the first trilogy was nearly as boring
03:28 <Lucifer_arma> at least terry brooks figured out that nobody likes to read "one foot in front of another" for 500 pages.
03:34 <GodTodd> heh...you forgot about the new shannara books and the landover movies too :)
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03:35 * digitx is away (bye)
04:23 <Lucifer_arma> the new shannara books being the heritage of shannara, or did he go and write more after that even?
04:24 * Lucifer_arma hasn't read any heroic fantasy in years
04:24 <Lucifer_arma> so apparently 5 minutes on a trampoline is supposed to be equivalent to running a mile
04:25 * Lucifer_arma wants trampoline information from someone who's not a fitness fad nutjob
04:27 <GodTodd> there's somewhere around a dozen shannara books now
04:27 <GodTodd> with, i think, 6 more coming
04:28 <GodTodd> www.pogo.com
04:28 <GodTodd> www.pogo.com
04:29 <GodTodd> dammit
04:29 <GodTodd> heh
04:45 <tramshed> spidey, yes it is possible to proxy your entire connection, its called proxychains
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05:27 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, who wants to be kicked?
05:27 <spidey> me!
05:28 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o Lucifer_arma] by ChanServ
05:28 <spidey> :D
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05:28 <spidey> <3
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> :)
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> my wife was singing that song earlier, and I decided to put some of it into my irc messages.
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> see? Look!
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05:28 <spidey> lol
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05:28 <spidey> lol
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05:30 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, would it be safe to say, most client/server games are udp?
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmm, maybe
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> if it's real-time or there's something like real-time action, such as in a simulator, only udp will do
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> turn-based, such as freeciv, tends to use tcp to simplify development
05:31 <spidey> ok
05:31 <spidey> so a fps is diffently udp
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> yes, definitely
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> if it's not, then it probbly sucks ass
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> now, it may suck ass for other reasons and have a perfectly good udp transport layer
05:31 <spidey> heh
05:32 <Lucifer_arma> udp gives you the lowest possible network latency at the expense of reliability
05:32 <Lucifer_arma> you send the packet, and either it gets there or it doesn't. Hence packet loss is a big problem.
05:32 <Lucifer_arma> tcp deals with packet loss and ensures that all packets will arrive in order, but that can mean longer transmission times for larger chunks of data
05:33 <spidey> k
05:33 <Lucifer_arma> obviously high network latency is bad for any game with real-time action, so you take the packet loss and try to code in ways to correct for it
05:33 <Lucifer_arma> either by resending packets (if they're still important), sending regular syncs, or by writing ways for the simulator to guess at what it doesn't know
05:33 <Lucifer_arma> arma uses a strategy that incorporates all three methods
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> but like in a fps game, knowing that the guy just shot at someone else is less important, so if that packet doesn't arrive, it doesn't get resent, it's not useful
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> or it'll get summarized instead when the regular sync comes
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> but knowing that you're being shot at is crucial. However, if the packet is lost, resending it is only going to confuse you, because you'll be finding out that you're being shot at, but the shot arrives on your machine half a second or longer after the fact
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> so what good is resending that packet?
05:35 <spidey> no reason to
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> better to just send 3-4 versions of it at the time that it matters and hope at least one of them gets through. :) Then you have serious bandwidth issues
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> one strategy I've at least heard discussed, but don't know if it's used, is to take measurements of packet loss and use those to determine what to do with crucial packets
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> like, if the client is suffering 50% packet loss, then you can send the same packet 3 times in a row with reasonable expectancy that the message will be received
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> but if it's only suffering 0.1% packet loss, you can get away with just sending it once and rolling the dice
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> problem there is you open the server up to DOS attacks where clients simulate packet loss with the intention of overloading the server's outgoing message queue
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> so you get an idea of how complex it can be :)
05:37 <luke-jr_work> fun
05:37 <spidey> ?
05:37 <spidey> was till 30 seconds ago
05:37 <spidey> 10*
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> if you wait for the client to acknowledge an important packet, then by the time you figure out the client didn't receive it, it's usually too late to resend it
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> so what then? :)
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> my personal preference is gauges that give you an idea of what is happening that get frequent enough syncs so tht if you don't know about something that just happened due to pcket loss,
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> you can still see it in the gauge. In an fps, this could be something like a danger level gauge, based on how many bullets passed by you in the last 10 seconds or whatever
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> in arma it's less important, we sync the whole grid often enough that missed turns are usually recovered quickly
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> most people don't really notice how completely unreliable the game's network layer is (because the network layer itself is Very Good, it's the network that sucks)
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> and only notice during high periods of packet loss, which can inflate their apparent ping and cause them to see huge jumps when a sync is received
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> there's a setting in arma to allow for more frequent syncs, for like if you're playing in a LAN, or otherwise have a lot of bandwidth to burn
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> then between syncs, we just send individual player turns and the client reconstructs the action with those. So if a turn is missed, what does it do?
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> well, I've actually seen the code tht does tthis. The syncs also send the player's position, so if the client says "Wait a minute, there's no way the player cn be at tht point with the turns I know about", it can extrapolate the last turn pretty accurately
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> a lot of corrections you don't notice because a) they happen so fast, b) they happen out of view, or c) you have to watch your hud map to see them
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> I've noticed an interesting correlation between the use of custom cam and perceived increases in lag
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> I suspect it's just bringing normal corrections that would be happening out of view for most other people into view because of the cam settings
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, that's it, I'm done rambling about network shit
05:43 <spidey> lol
05:45 <GodTodd> hmmm...should i be concerned that my son has a crush on my wife's 17 year old cousin?
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> is she hot?
05:46 <GodTodd> well...yeah
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> then no
05:46 <GodTodd> :)
05:46 <spidey> lol
05:46 <GodTodd> i guess it's getting close to "the talk" time :/
05:46 <GodTodd> heh
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> haha
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> man, you should've seen my wife when my two older kids (before the other one was born) came out holding hands, saying they were getting married because they "love each other!"
05:47 <GodTodd> haha
05:47 * Lucifer_arma reminds everyone that his two older kids are opposite genders
05:48 <GodTodd> my oldest is beginning to think about the deeper things in life....religion, opposite sex relations, etc.
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> and cars that transform into robots?
05:48 <GodTodd> well...that too :)
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> my daughter's started working on that stuff too
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> she's decided that God doesn't exist, which is a reversal of her previous position on the matter
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> she's also decided that she doesn't like the way the other kids treat kids that don't believe in God
05:49 <GodTodd> i figure i'll just make the information available, be there for any questions/clarification and let him draw his own conclusions
05:50 <Lucifer_arma> in the process she's learning how to respect her own privacy, and starting to notice that other people have this thing called privacy too
05:50 <Lucifer_arma> I never tried to push her in any direction, I treated the belief in God thing the same as thinking there were monsters in the closet
05:50 <Lucifer_arma> if it was causing her to not do something she needed to do, then it was a problem (the monster in the closet made it so she couldn't get dressed in the morning)
05:51 <GodTodd> heh...i believe in god and still get shunned...surprise, surprise :)
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, my middle kid has another statement about god to throw on the pile
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> "I believe in God. I also believe in vampires, ghosts, monsters, and aliens."
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, otherwise we just ignore it, or rather, don't treat it as anything special. Just another phase....
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> but my girl still thinks boys are icky
05:52 <GodTodd> i figure the most information i have is on my own and my wife's beliefs so that's probably where he'll start
05:53 <GodTodd> but if he wants to become a fundy then so be it
05:53 <GodTodd> he just better be able to handle debates ;)
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> I can go along with that, but as long as they live under my roof, there ain't no jesus-loving allowed in this house!
05:54 <GodTodd> he can love jesus all he wants as long as he doesn't try to convert me
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> well, not that extreme, but you get the idea. I won't take them to church, I will forbid them to go to church under the age of 12 (if they want to go on their own, for special family events its different)
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> and they absolutely must show tolerance to other religions and people with brains
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> (where people with brains == no religion)
05:54 <GodTodd> hell...i'll even go so far as to take him to church if he wants
05:55 <Lucifer_arma> I don't think it'll be a problem. The christians in this area will ensure my kids develop a strong distaste for religion in general. NIce to know they're good for something...
05:55 * GodTodd has brains and a religion. :P
05:55 <Lucifer_arma> I want my kids to have reasonable mental defense mechanisms in place before being exposed to that sort of organized indoctrination
05:56 <GodTodd> that's why i would have to be there with him
05:56 <GodTodd> :)
05:56 <GodTodd> teach him to think critically of what he is told
05:56 <Lucifer_arma> there's a world of difference between reading the bible here and coming to their own conclusions and going to church and being given their thinking
05:56 <Lucifer_arma> and I absolutely make the bible available to them. Wish I could make the satanic bible available to them without getting CPS called on me
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> maybe when they're older I'll take it out of the closet.
05:57 * GodTodd thought about buying a copy at half price books
05:57 <GodTodd> heh
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> doesn't matter much right now, they're not interested. I take their lack of interest to indicate the appropriate lack of mental development needed to grasp the concepts.
05:57 <GodTodd> that's how i've approached it
05:58 <GodTodd> "if you're old enough to ask the question, you're old enough to hear the answer."
05:58 <Lucifer_arma> heh, not for everything! My daughter asked, after our last kid was born, how he got into mommy in the first place
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> now, I'm not shy, we've talked in great detail how babies are made, but that's a hard question to answer
05:59 <GodTodd> you get to the point where the boy touches the girl...that should end it ;)
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> problem isn't that she won't understand the answer, she will understand it just fine. The problem is that at that age, it would totally gross her out
05:59 <GodTodd> two years and my oldest will be in middle school
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> but if she were to ask right now, I think I'd have to give her a complete answer. I think she's old enough to handle it.
06:00 <GodTodd> he's plenty old enough here real soon
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> mine's going into third grade this year, so she's still a few years off from middle school
06:00 <GodTodd> i definitely didn't pull any of that stork bullshit
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> I'm hoping to tell her about the mechanics of sex before she gets all hormonal, so that when she does get all hormonal, we'll be able to deal with it as a social issue for a young girl
06:00 <spidey> Red Hat 3.4.5-2
06:01 <spidey> so that means red hat 3.4.5?
06:01 <spidey> i hate rpm systems they confuzzle me
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> build 2, or release 2, or something like that
06:01 <GodTodd> service pack 2? :D
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, we didn't do that stork bullshit either. I don't know anybody who does, but we actually had the two oldest in the delivery room so they could see their brother being born
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> they loved it :)
06:02 <Lucifer_arma> my daughter cried, she was so moved :)
06:02 <GodTodd> my oldest was in school when my youngest was born
06:02 <Lucifer_arma> I'd have taken him out of school. :)
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> at least, I say that, but I won't be tested on that one
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> also different situation. It was your first baby with Karen
06:03 <GodTodd> yep
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> for me it would be like our fourth kid together, we already had our first together.
06:04 <GodTodd> and he would have been so bored beforehand that he would have just been a distraction
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> but yeah, I won't be tested on it, so it's entirely possible I would decide to leave the ones in school just so we don't have 3 kids running about during the delivery :)
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> we brought someone with us to entertain the kids while we focused on the delivery
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> it was very orderly
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> and damn near routine, it was kinda scary
06:05 <GodTodd> heh
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> what was silly, or stupid, depending on how you rate it, was this:
06:05 <GodTodd> see...my wife got stuck at 7 cm for hours...then went from 7 to 10 in a matter of minutes....it was pretty unpredictable
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> with our two kids in the room, my wife says "This baby's coming out, go get the doctor"
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> the nurse said that it was normal for mothers to think the baby's coming out, but in fact it's just a regular contraction.
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> wtf? Did she think my wife had never done this before or something?
06:06 <GodTodd> haha
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> when the nurse finally decided to call that my wife was ready for the doctor (in which case the doctor finishes her cigarette and then comes in, or whatever)
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> she turned her back, opened the door and started calling out to the other staff
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> in the meantime, my son's head popped out
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> she should've listened to my wife!
06:08 <spidey> libds >= 1.2.0 means i need equal to, or greater than?
06:08 * spidey isn't good with math expressions :)
06:08 <GodTodd> yeah...the nurses here at medical center put emphasis on that....kept asking my wife about everything...how it was feeling, etc. that's how they gauged how soon the kid would come
06:08 <Lucifer_arma> yes, >= is equal to or greater
06:08 <spidey> kk
06:08 <Lucifer_arma> it should be a requirement that nurses listen to their patients
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> why it's not, I don't know. I realize that many women, especially on the first kid, freak out and say the baby's coming when it's a regular contraction
06:09 <GodTodd> that's why we like our doctor too...he assumes *gasp* that you know more about how you feel than he does
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> hell, Karen probably screamed when she dilated up to 10 cm after sitting at 7 for so long
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> did she? ;)
06:09 <GodTodd> nope
06:09 <GodTodd> not one scream the whole time
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> you can spend like 6 hours getting from 0 to 7 cm
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> no drugs?
06:10 <GodTodd> drugs
06:10 <GodTodd> heh
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> ah
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> two of my kids came out with no drugs, but my wife got stuck with, er, whatever they call it, with the first
06:10 <GodTodd> the epidural?
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> and for this reason, among many others, you should never get a baby delivered in that particular maternity ward!
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, that's it. The horrible needle in the back
06:11 <GodTodd> yeah
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> see, the nurses were watching some tv show, and they were glued to it, so they didn't want to *gasp* attend my wife
06:11 <GodTodd> karen tried without that but decided after all to go for it
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> their solutions involved a catheter, all this fancy monitoring gear, and all sorts of crap
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> the epidural to get her to quit screaming
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> the catheter was because my wife kept taking off all the monitoring gear so she could go pee
06:11 <GodTodd> haha
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> wtf? their tv program is more important than my baby? Take their licenses and kick 'em to the curb, I say!
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> then they decided it was time to call the doctor, because as you're probably aware the doctor in the maternity ward is on-call
06:12 <GodTodd> karen had all that stuff too...but we also had nurses in constantly
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> they came in and said she had been called and would be here soon
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> they gave a 20 minute estimate, and the accompanying countdowns
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> then said "the doctor should be here any minute" for another 20 minutes
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> at 5:55am, I heard one nurse say to the other "You did call the doctor, right?"
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> the answer? "I thought you called the doctor!"
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> and at 6am, my wife's regular doctor came in for his regular work day
06:13 <GodTodd> heh....our ob came in to check on her that morning, went back to his office (which is connected to the hospital) and had to be called back within 30 minutes....i think he gets there in about 5
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> If we have another kid, we're staying home and delivering him ourselves, I think
06:14 <GodTodd> kid was born around 9:30 am
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> just in time for breakfast :)
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> was he real cranky, being spit out that early in the morning?
06:14 <GodTodd> we were his 9:00 am appt that day too
06:15 <Lucifer_arma> for our third kid, the hospital told her not to come in when she called
06:15 <GodTodd> i think he was more cranky because he took a huge dump right as he was coming down the canal
06:15 <Lucifer_arma> so she called me and said "This baby's being born tonight, come take me to the hospital"
06:15 <Lucifer_arma> that's normal. :) My last kid did too
06:16 <GodTodd> yeah...they had to pull shit out of his throat (literally!)
06:16 <GodTodd> heh
06:16 <Lucifer_arma> so when we got there, the hospital staff was all "we told you to stay home and call us when the contractions are 5 minutes apart"
06:16 <Lucifer_arma> ew, I can see him being cranky with that going on
06:16 <Lucifer_arma> ours had his head out by the time he dumped his load
06:16 <GodTodd> yeah...ours swallowed it
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> so my wife says "If I wait that long, there won't be time to drive here, this baby's coming out fast"
06:17 <GodTodd> prepared him for fundies trying to get him to swallow nasty shit, i guess ;)
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> when it was all over, they were shocked at how fast it happened, and thanked her for her initiative :)
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> nah, that's preparing him for AMerican-style democracy
06:17 <GodTodd> mushroom democracy :)
06:17 <GodTodd> keep us in the dark and feed us shit
06:19 <GodTodd> we've been trying to help get a 17 year old ready to enter texas schools
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06:19 <Lucifer_arma> your wife's cousin?
06:19 <GodTodd> yeah
06:19 <Lucifer_arma> good job waiting until /dev/null left before talking about her :)
06:20 <GodTodd> haha
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> I hope he goes through old forum posts and finds all the whacked out jokes I've made about his predicament while he's been gone :)
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> so she's been homeschooled, then?
06:20 <GodTodd> no
06:20 <GodTodd> close tho
06:20 <GodTodd> vegas schools
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> ah oh
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> means she's gay, promiscuous, and can't read/write/rithmetic?
06:21 <GodTodd> dunno...but her parents are pretty worthless
06:21 <GodTodd> they fought during their divorce to force the other to take her
06:21 <GodTodd> neither wanted her
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> ack, that sucks more than a little
06:21 <GodTodd> yeah
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> how old was she?
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> or is this a recent thing?
06:22 <GodTodd> around tommy's age i think
06:22 <GodTodd> so...9 10
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> so she's had plenty of time to internalize the conflict
06:22 <GodTodd> something like that
06:22 <GodTodd> yeah
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> she all whacked out, then?
06:22 <GodTodd> she seems to be pretty well adjusted
06:22 <GodTodd> more so than i'd expect
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> different people express that stuff differently
06:23 <GodTodd> yep
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> my wife was all whacked out, but her sister wasn't
06:23 <GodTodd> i think she'll be okay if she stays here for a while
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> of course, now if you compare the two, you'll reach the opposite conclusion. :) My wife's been healing for 11 years, while her sister has remained relatively stagnant
06:24 <GodTodd> not to mention this is one of the best school districts in the country :)
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> is she here with a parent, or just staying with you guys?
06:24 <GodTodd> she's staying with karen's parents
06:24 <GodTodd> they're getting guardianship from her dad
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> so this is a permanent thing?
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> why's her dad giving her up?
06:24 <GodTodd> yep til 18 at least
06:25 <GodTodd> not sure completely...maybe he's realizing he really still is an alcoholic and shit...another sister of his convinced him it's for the best, as well
06:25 <GodTodd> so it's not just karen't mom that thinks so
06:25 <GodTodd> karen's*
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> ah, family pressure then
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06:26 <Lucifer_arma> something in the girl's life---
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> er, now that he's back, we better quit talking about her :)
06:26 <GodTodd> he sent her out here in the first place because of some stalker thing i think it was
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> real stalker, or alcoholic hallucination?
06:27 <GodTodd> real stalker afaik
06:28 <GodTodd> personally, i just like the eye candy....us poor old married guys gotta have some vices
06:28 <GodTodd> :)
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> heh
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> get her to play freeciv. :) I'm a firm believer that everything you need to know to succeed in Texas schools can be learned playing freeciv.
06:29 <GodTodd> haha
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> and if there is some emotional upset going on, she can focus her attention on a nice LOOONG distraction to help clear her mind
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> give her some useful metaphors to manipulate, etc.
06:30 <GodTodd> oh...and her staying wasn't really her dad's idea...it was her's actually
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> but if there's a real stalker, then of course she should start with a new internet identity that has no connections to her old one
06:30 <GodTodd> yeah....we'll have to delve into all that
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> get her on linux :)
06:30 <GodTodd> haha
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> I had a bit of a talk with my mother-in-law today when she came up against the fact that we don't run windows
06:31 * tramshed compiles tron
06:31 <tramshed> layman is borked or something, you should take it out of the topic
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> there's this game she plays on some nickoledeon website that requires an activex control of some sort with my nephew
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> she wanted to play it with my kids, but it wouldn't run, for what should now be obvious reasons
06:31 * GodTodd notes that compiles and complies are *very* similar...coincidence?
06:32 <GodTodd> haha
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> when I was talking to her about it, it became clear (and she found herself admitting) that the game required something to be installed locally that she didn't even know about
06:32 <GodTodd> yep
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> I told her that that particular game was probably safe, but the same mechanism that made it possible for the game to be installed without her knowing can and has been exploited
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> told her about that teacher that was recently acquitted on appeal over the pr0n popups in class
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> that this stuff literally ruins people's lives, and there's almost nothing they can do about it
06:33 <GodTodd> except go away from windoze :)
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> it's kinda like cancer, if it's going to fuck you over, there's not much you can do about it except weather it and hopefully live
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> right, except that
06:33 <GodTodd> and linux is chemotherapy?
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> so I started telling her about how my own computers are setup to prevent that sort of thing from happening
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> fact is, I actually feel like my kids are pretty safe on the internet right now
06:34 <luke-jr_work> tramshed: SF likes to screw with us
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06:34 <tramshed> ah
06:34 <tramshed> it keeps telling me that svn.sourceforge.net isnt real
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, I pointed out to her that there are plenty of other games that can be played that we're not in any shortage of gaming for the kids even if we can't run windows games
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> she had no choice but to agree, because it's true :)
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> don't let those windows losers that say they keep using windows because of games fool you, there's plenty of games in linux
06:35 <GodTodd> yeah...ubuntu has a large choice of kids games actually
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> in fact, their favorite game right now (which they played with this hardcore mormon bitch) is Angry Drunken Dwarves :)
06:35 <tramshed> haha, this is a hell of an error to crap out with
06:35 <GodTodd> and i haven't even really looked at the debian listing
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> tramshed: you want armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> #svn
06:35 <armabot> svn co https://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad <dirname>(more information: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Working_with_SVN)
06:35 <tramshed> Internal Error: Internal error in static tLanguage* tLanguage::FindStrict(const tString&) in tools/tLocale.cpp:150 :
06:35 <tramshed> Language British English not found.
06:35 <tramshed> Please send a Bug report!
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> definitely plenty of games to play. They also like airstrike a lot
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> I don't blame them, airstrike is damn addicting
06:37 <GodTodd> thing is...most of the windows games that tommy likes are old enough wine should probably run them
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> most of the games run fine on the thin client, too. Except for the 3d games
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> hard to say. I never could get wine to run Caesar II
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> which is a shame, I really enjoyed that game :)
06:38 <GodTodd> heh
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> I gave the disc to somebody a few years back, though, so I don't have it anymore
06:39 <GodTodd> eventually i'll probably make this a windows-free house
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> I think open source games are the best ones for kids to play anyway
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> people always tell me that's not true, but here's my argument
06:39 <GodTodd> don't know if i can totally tho...karen has to have some stuff for work in case she has to work from home
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> back in the day, computing resources were thin and games weren't profitable enough to warrant large budgets on development
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> you should investigate rdesktop for those situations where you need windows
06:40 <GodTodd> i will
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> you'll need a good terminal server, though
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, back in the day, games were a lot better because to be successful, they had to have cutting edge graphics, sound, and gameplay
06:40 <GodTodd> well...i'll plan the whole thing out before i willy nilly start formatting
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> cutting edge graphics and sound wasn't anything like it is now, you could actually do very little and still be cutting edge in those areas
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> so gameplay was king
06:41 <GodTodd> yep
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> as games became more profitable and budgets rose, gameplay suffered, until we get to a point where games are very beautiful, very good sound, but very hard to play
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> and very hard to keep interest for some of us oldtimers
06:41 <GodTodd> like myst
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> but open source gaming has the same problems the old games had. They don't have huge budgets, and they're expected to be "just as good" as commercial offerings
06:42 <tramshed> like moria
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> since they can't compete with cutting-edge graphics and sound (except in a few niche areas, and except for some few talented developers), they have to compete with gameplay
06:42 * GodTodd prefers gameplay over prettiness.
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> so most open source games have very good gameplay, and require a certain amount of thought to be good at, and exercise the brain!
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> so what's better for kids, then?
06:43 <GodTodd> i agree
06:43 <tramshed> the funny part is, im installing neverball while you give this speech
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> :)
06:43 <tramshed> dont feel like figuring out how to fix that tron error
06:43 * Lucifer_arma finds that most people install distractions while he gives speeches
06:44 <GodTodd> my card bites...i have to reboot into xgl mode in order to run arma
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> tramshed: you ever play any freeciv?
06:44 <GodTodd> or it crashes
06:44 <tramshed> nah
06:44 <tramshed> never been a huge fan of the civilization games
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> even when you get to....
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> #quote get 35
06:45 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #35: "ur not a good writer :P - Ady" (added by Lucifer_arma at 11:00 PM, November 13, 2006)
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> #quote get 36
06:45 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #36: "<Durka> HEY im a n00b" (added by spidey at 08:45 PM, December 07, 2006)
06:45 <tramshed> so far my system has locked up every time ive tried to run vendetta
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> #quote get 37
06:45 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #37: "Out of the whole multitude of prudent men in the world, the great majority are so from timidity. --Clausewitz" (added by Lucifer_arma at 12:40 PM, December 09, 2006)
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> #quote get 32
06:45 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #32: "i2020> sure you can... who told you that, little lukie wookie" (added by spidey at 07:34 PM, November 05, 2006)
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> #q
06:45 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #9: "he eats a bowl of wheat stocks and small pebbles -- Okgo" (added by n54 at 04:28 PM, March 29, 2006)
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> #q
06:45 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #1: "Was this compiled by our friend Sum Ting Wong? --WallyWallWhackr" (added by Lucifer_arma at 06:37 AM, March 24, 2006)
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> #q
06:45 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #4: "left vertical bar is brakes, right one is an early-90s roleplaying game made by White Wolf before they went all Magic: The Gathering happy -- armabot (markov)" (added by a user that is no longer registered at 06:24 AM, March 27, 2006)
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> damn, I need to do something to remember the quotes I want to quote
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> #quote help
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> #list quote
06:46 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: add, change, get, random, remove, search, and stats
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> #quote search "luke"
06:46 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 5 found: #20: "ok luci, you'd know better on this one -- luke-jr", #21: "<Luke-Jr_work__> btw, pedophile is good", #23: "<spidey> you wanna fuck Luke-Jr ?", #26: "<Lucifer_arma> I want fundamentalism just so I...", and #45: "better an idiot that can admit it than a luke-..."
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> #quote get 26
06:46 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #26: "<Lucifer_arma> I want fundamentalism just so I can wipe my ass with luke-jr_'s face" (added by spidey at 05:44 AM, October 25, 2006)
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> there we go. That's why you might want to play freeciv.
06:46 <spidey> FREECIV
06:46 <spidey> omg
06:46 <spidey> i wanna play
06:46 <spidey> :(
06:47 <GodTodd> no freeciv for you!
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> I have to be up kind of early tomorrow
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> and, oh yeah, I'M NOT PLAYING FREECIV ANYMORE!!!
06:47 * spidey ties GodTodd to a tree for the lions to attack
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06:47 * GodTodd is in a "calm before the storm" time.
06:47 * Lucifer_arma should work on eugenics some tomorrow
06:47 <spidey> only thing worse than a annoying chick on the internet
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, we should wait until next week, if we're going to play any freeciv, when hopefully godtodd can play
06:48 <spidey> is a annoying chick on the internet that figured out what ts server you use
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> and I'll be in finals, which means nothing for me to do at work
06:48 <GodTodd> M-test review, T-Test 3, W-Final review, R-Final
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: isn't letting luke into your ts server worse?
06:48 <spidey> no
06:48 <spidey> becuase luke doesn't even talk
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> maybe his voice is just too high-pitched for his mic to pick up?
06:48 <spidey> he fucking calls me
06:49 <spidey> and gives the phone to his daughter
06:49 <spidey> WTF
06:49 <luke-jr_work> lol
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> haha
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> I used to do that whenever we'd get telemarketers
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> I'd give the phone to my 3yo daughter
06:49 <GodTodd> more intelligent conversation, spidey?
06:49 <spidey> indeed
06:49 <spidey> atleast she talked back
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: it's luke's daughter, come on!
06:50 <GodTodd> yeah...but i refuse to believe she's *not* more intelligent than he
06:50 <spidey> you know
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, I'm down with that, it's just that kids need their brains exercised and developed, and I don't believe luke can do either of those things
06:50 <spidey> his wife even spoke more than he did
06:50 <spidey> which, his wife does sound hot :>
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> did she at least sound hot?
06:50 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: there, we agree :)
06:51 <GodTodd> yeah...she could definitely do better than him...must have been a dark day that caused her to settle :D
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> luke is like my daughter in permanent piss-ant mode
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> she argues with everything, nothing she says makes sense, and anything bad that's ever happened is your fault
06:52 <luke-jr_work> stfu Lucifer_arma u don't know anything so stfu u n00b
06:52 <Lucifer_arma> fortunately, my daughter doesn't go into piss-ant mode very often
06:52 <luke-jr_work> :)
06:52 <GodTodd> awwww...she's growing into a young woman :)
06:52 <Lucifer_arma> heh
06:52 <luke-jr_work> GodTodd: lame
06:52 <GodTodd> luke-jr_work: lamer
06:52 <luke-jr_work> GodTodd: lamest
06:52 <GodTodd> luke-jr_work: don't be so hard on yourself
06:53 <luke-jr_work> make me
06:53 <spidey> rofl
06:53 <GodTodd> luke-jr_work: i don't make trash i burn it...na na na nanney nanney boo boo
06:53 <spidey> haha
06:53 <GodTodd> :)
06:53 <spidey> i make trash
06:54 <spidey> just look at my garbage can
06:54 <spidey> and then...
06:54 <spidey> i ship it over to luke
06:54 <luke-jr_work> liar
06:54 <GodTodd> or there's always the one that i didn't use because it's probably over his head..."make you? hell no, your parents already made that mistake once!"
06:54 <Lucifer_arma> hey, he'd probably recycle that shit into something useful
06:54 <spidey> lol
06:54 <Lucifer_arma> like, maybe it'd sterilize him
06:55 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: only after I have all 38 kids
06:55 <GodTodd> see...that's what's wrong with society...smart people have < 5 kids and morons have >500
06:55 <GodTodd> it's not fair, i tell ya :)
06:56 <Lucifer_arma> yep, they're outbreeding us, totally
06:56 <luke-jr_work> GodTodd: according to that Darwin idiot, us morons are more fit
06:56 <GodTodd> luke-jr_work: so...are you agreeing with him or disagreeing?
06:56 <Lucifer_arma> still, they need to have like 500 kids per couple to keep overall IQ parity
06:56 <luke-jr_work> GodTodd: disagreeing, cuz we won't euthenase-or-whatever you when you're old
06:56 <spidey> brothers girlfriend: what kinda stuff does your brother like
06:56 <spidey> me: porn
06:56 <spidey> brothers girlfriend: porn? no for his birthday
06:56 <spidey> me: ugh....well...he was looking for that dvd anal addicts
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> btw, Darwin never said anything about "survival of the fitter", that was something someone else stuck on there
06:57 <GodTodd> luke-jr_work: it's spelled 'euthanize' and wtf did that have to do with breeding?
06:57 <luke-jr_work> GodTodd: it has to do with you sticking around longer than you deserve
06:58 <GodTodd> luke-jr_work: you've already done that, though :)
06:58 <luke-jr_work> and I do it every minute
06:58 * Lucifer_arma thinks luke should've watched the Simpsons the other night, when they did a take on the scopes monkey trial
06:58 <luke-jr_work> get used to it
06:58 * luke-jr_work thinks Lucifer_arma is merely assuming he didn't
06:58 <GodTodd> luke-jr_work: and you're a moron, get used to it :)
06:59 <luke-jr_work> GodTodd: perhaps I am, but the real moron is the one who denies it
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: maybe you should tell luke about Robbie when he brings up right-to-life arguments
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> see what he says then :)
07:00 <GodTodd> luke-jr_work: so...you haven't answered....was "Darwin" correct that you morons are "fitter" or was he wrong and you morons are actually weaker because it takes more of you to make a difference?
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> if he can handle the story, I mean. He might have problems with some random dude risking his neck to save some chick he didn't know
07:00 <GodTodd> especially a non catholic
07:00 <GodTodd> :)
07:01 <luke-jr_work> too many of them non catholics
07:01 <GodTodd> i doubt that luke-jr_work would have done the same thing
07:01 <GodTodd> speaks to character pretty loudly
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> especially not after seeing the photos of the outcome. He'd wuss out for sure.
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07:02 <luke-jr_work> batteries
07:02 <GodTodd> yeah...have you seen the ones where his head was caved in...before they put the skull plate in?
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> speaking of whiches, did you see that they're finding in coma patients that they can directly electrically stimulate the brain and get it going somewhat?
07:02 <GodTodd> that was pretty nasty
07:02 <luke-jr_work> I called 911 the other day cuz people were cussing
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, I looked at all the photos
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> I showed them to my kids, too
07:03 <GodTodd> yeah...i make sure to always use him as an example for tommy
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> I was following pretty closely for awhile, then karen's dad quit updating the site, and if he's updated it since, I haven't noticed because I quit following when he quit updating (now in an endlessly recursive loop)
07:03 <GodTodd> no...i haven't seen that
07:04 <GodTodd> no....he's been too busy i think
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> I'll see if I can dig up a link
07:04 <luke-jr_work> ramen sounds good
07:04 <GodTodd> lots of overtime....although it's probably against the universe or something that an atheist makes a living as a life-flight pilot ;)
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct=us/16-0&fp=46b6c89936bd1877&ei=1ay2Rtu2LJfiowK33oTdAQ&url=http%3A//www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/78799.php&cid=1118790862&sig2=Bg01zPmss2KwVsdk1XmFDg
07:05 <luke-jr_work> spidey: libogg and libvorbis download GNU FriBidi (needs libthread library!!!) [edit]
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> come right to it, I'd trust the atheist over the christian. He's less inclined to pray for my life and more inclined to fly me to the hospital :)
07:05 <spidey> luke-jr_work, wtf's this got to do with me?
07:06 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: haha
07:06 <luke-jr_work> spidey: play
07:06 <luke-jr_work> the google knows of what speak I
07:06 <GodTodd> hrmm....what's his site? www.robbie-grinnell.com i think
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, that's it
07:07 <GodTodd> yeah...the dash used to throw me :)
07:07 <GodTodd> heh
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> really need to get karen's dad to take the animated gif out of the background so it quits bringing my computer to its knees
07:07 <spidey> play
07:07 <spidey> what
07:07 <spidey> ffs
07:07 <GodTodd> yeah...not sure what got into him to do that
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> he was understandably distressed :)
07:08 <GodTodd> i might try to get him to let me manage it or something
07:08 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: http://odc.sourceforge.net/images/rmopsmall.gif
07:08 <luke-jr_work> spidey: libogg and libvorbis download GNU FriBidi (needs libthread library!!!) [edit]
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> I tried to talk karen at the time into letting me setup something so her dad could just focus on the writing and pictures
07:08 <GodTodd> don't do it! he's trying to get referral money!
07:09 <GodTodd> i wonder if he's just lost interest in it...
07:09 <GodTodd> there's still updates periodically...in his condition i mean
07:10 <GodTodd> hell...they've even got videos now :)
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> well, at the time, the website was probably exactly what he needed to stop the phone calls. By now, no doubt, everybody interested has found their own communication channel that isn't a big load on anybody
07:10 <GodTodd> truly
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> er, when I click for the Jan 2 2004 update, I get a notice about an expired domain :/
07:11 <GodTodd> i should have him buy hosting from luke-jr_work
07:11 <GodTodd> ahhh...maybe it's gone now
07:11 <GodTodd> heh
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> ah, because it points at roadrunner440.net
07:11 <spidey> luke-jr_work, WTF ARE YOU FUCKING TALKING ABOUT?!
07:12 <GodTodd> yeah...that was robbie's business domain
07:13 <Lucifer_arma> I'm hungry, I'm going to heat up another piece of chicken
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> "If we're bringing samples back to Earth, we don't want to bring back something like the Andromeda Strain," said Kastner's boss, Cassie Conley, NASA's planetary protection officer in Washington,
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> nice to know NASA's chasing ghosts of science fiction while they're blowing up space shuttles
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> "The foam lining may have busted Columbia's wing, but there was no organic life that shouldn't be there!"
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08:37 <DrJoeTron> hey does anyone know how to delete a phantom monitor
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10:57 <wrtlprnft> P4|away: no, what should it do?
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11:31 <beta_usa> hi
12:16 <spidey> hi
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13:19 <wrtlprnft> lol, i just got an email from someone using hotmal which contained an ad about windows vista. it links to an msn/windows life search for “windows vista”, and the 3rd result is wikipedia, and that result's text is so out of date that it still says “Windows Vista is the name of the upcoming release of Microsoft Windows”
13:19 * wrtlprnft shakes his head at microsoft's stupidity
14:06 <beta_usa> en wikipedia page is up2date
14:11 <noob7> for me wiki is second result and the (german) text seems to be up-to-date as well
14:14 <beta_usa> the french result is too
14:15 * wrtlprnft is talking about the text on the msn search page itself
14:16 <wrtlprnft> and they don't even manage to make their favicon transparent
14:16 <beta_usa> Hm, I can't make live.com search english pages only...
14:17 <beta_usa> I can do it with google, but it's not really usable either.
14:18 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/msnwtf.png
14:19 <beta_usa> Indeed. I wonder what's "Cached page" then...
14:20 <beta_usa> Is it xfce ?
14:21 * beta_usa is surprised that the favicon can be in the WM title bar
14:21 <wrtlprnft> no, kwin
14:21 <beta_usa> Err under KDE ?
14:21 <wrtlprnft> yeah
14:21 <beta_usa> ok
14:21 <wrtlprnft> sorr, i'm happy with KDE
14:21 <wrtlprnft> *sorry
14:21 <wrtlprnft> interestingly the cached page is more up to date
14:22 <beta_usa> Well, do what you want. You don't have to be sorry.
14:22 <beta_usa> I'm not telling it's bad.
14:22 <beta_usa> Anyway that's what's great with free software : choice
14:22 <wrtlprnft> :D
14:23 <beta_usa> "the cached page is more up to date" <= Awesome.
14:23 <beta_usa> I want to work for MS ASAP.
14:24 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r7320 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (4 files in 4 dirs):
14:24 <armabot> armagetronad: From NEWS:
14:24 <armabot> armagetronad: - Red/Green or Red/Cyan 3D rendering. Activate it by setting CAMERA_EYE_DISTANCE to something != 0.
14:25 <beta_usa> Does that mean that the svn has been updated ?
14:26 <wrtlprnft> ?
14:26 <wrtlprnft> it means th
14:27 <wrtlprnft> at i committed something
14:27 <beta_usa> Ok, that's what I meant.
14:27 <beta_usa> I'm not fluent in english yet, sorry.
14:28 <wrtlprnft> it's no problem :D
14:28 <wrtlprnft> it's about http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=191141#191141
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14:29 <beta_usa> Ok so you're a dev. Congratz, awesome game.
14:30 <beta_usa> Only thing sad : the memory leak in the ctf mode. Appart that, almost perfect.
14:30 <wrtlprnft> i didn't write a lot of it. The stable version barely contains any code from me
14:31 <wrtlprnft> well, the guy who wrote CTF disappeared
14:31 * beta_usa blames Harry Potter
14:32 <beta_usa> Does that mean that noone is working on the memory leak ?
14:32 <wrtlprnft> i guess yes
14:32 * beta_usa is crying
14:32 <tramshed> I never noticed a memory leak
14:32 <wrtlprnft> ctf has never really been part of arma
14:32 <eddiefantastic> I believe it's the respawning that causes that
14:32 <beta_usa> I don't know at all.
14:33 <wrtlprnft> it's client side, right
14:33 <eddiefantastic> turned off by default since it has a memory leak
14:33 <tramshed> and yeah, ctf is pretty new to tron
14:33 <beta_usa> I'd be glad to help, but I have so many things to do right no, I don't know if i'll be able to do it.
14:34 <beta_usa> (and I have personnal trouble).
14:34 <beta_usa> If I try, i may need your help.
14:34 <tramshed> speaking of which, court in an hour
14:34 <tramshed> hope I dont go back to jail
14:34 * beta_usa too
14:34 <eddiefantastic> good luck tramshed
14:35 <wrtlprnft> i've got things to do right now and will be away for a couple of weeks, but one might try to run arma in valgrind, enable respawn and spawn a huge deathzone
14:35 <wrtlprnft> yeah, good luck
14:35 <tramshed> its misdemeanor shit, and they already have me out on a tether bond, so Im going to try and talk them into just leaving me on tether
14:36 <beta_usa> wrtlprnft: ok, I can use valgrind, I just need to learn how to setup a server and how arma is coded and the ctf mod.
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14:38 <tramshed> that was lovely
14:38 * tramshed kicks his laptop in the face
14:39 <tramshed> stupid thing just spewed a bunch of video garbage and turned itself off
14:39 <tramshed> I need a real computer something fierce
14:39 <wrtlprnft> i'm not too familiar with the ctf stuff, but if eddiefantastic's assumption is right you don't even need it to reproduce the leak
14:40 <eddiefantastic> I think there's a complie flag --respawn-on or something
14:40 <beta_usa> You need to reproduce at least to see if it's fixed i guessed (not sure I understood)
14:41 <beta_usa> But you need respawn in ctf you heretic !
14:41 <beta_usa> Respawn off would kill ctf spirit :)
14:42 <wrtlprnft> it's ./configure CXXFLAGS=-DRESPAWN_HACK IIRC
15:05 <beta_usa> bye
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15:17 <epsy> hi
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15:41 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft: --enable-respawn or such
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15:43 <epsy> wrtlprnft is back ? O_o
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16:32 <Monkey_arma> i just got a bug while playing fort cafe
16:32 <Monkey_arma> i will show you what it says....
16:32 <epsy> hay Monkey_arma
16:32 <Monkey_arma> hi eps
16:32 <Monkey_arma> version 2.8.2.1 by the way
16:33 <luke-jr> no such version
16:33 <Monkey_arma> Internal Error: Internal error in void tHeapBase::Remove(tHeapElement*) in tools/tHeap.cpp:145 : Element is not in this heap! (Note: this usually is a followup error when the system fails to recover from another error. When reporting, please also include whatever happened before this.) Please send a Bug report! Aborted
16:33 <epsy> luke-jr, .2.8.2.1 ...
16:33 <Monkey_arma> haha ok 0.2.8.2.1
16:33 <Monkey_arma> in the game i could press escape but no other keys worked
16:34 <Monkey_arma> then it crashed
16:34 <epsy> and...what happened before ?
16:34 <Monkey_arma> i entered the server
16:34 * Monkey_arma is too lazy to put the "0."
16:35 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: huge difference
16:35 <Monkey_arma> well we all know im not playing 2.8.2.1 dont we....
16:35 <Monkey_arma> i have no time machine...
16:35 <luke-jr> how do we know that?
16:36 <Monkey_arma> coz my flux capacitor broke
16:36 <Monkey_arma> ?
16:36 <Monkey_arma> do you need anymore info?
16:36 <Monkey_arma> about the bug i mean
16:41 <epsy> harr the fucking buggy slide
16:45 <Monkey_arma> while we are at it, its not the only bug ive had....ive got screenshots of at least one more....something about netobjects not spawning...
16:45 <epsy> http://epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539/%7Eepsy/screenshots/arma-team/screenshot_155.png
16:47 <Monkey_arma> is that just lag eps or a bug?
16:47 <Monkey_arma> well i will look through my 100 screenshots to find it... :((
16:47 <Monkey_arma> sorry 110
16:47 <Monkey_arma> :(((
16:47 <epsy> that's a server clock sync i think
16:48 <epsy> wow just got it again -_-
16:48 <epsy> http://epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539/%7Eepsy/screenshots/arma-team/screenshot_157.png
16:48 <epsy> he same one
16:48 <epsy> *the
16:50 <Monkey_arma> is there some way to put an image on irc ?
16:51 <epsy> nope
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16:53 <Monkey_arma> hi
16:53 <Monkey_arma> ok i will have to type it then :(
16:54 <P4> share it with us using http://postimage.us/
16:57 <Lackadaisical> hi
16:58 <Monkey_arma> ? exactly how do i use that site....
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16:59 <Monkey_arma> thx but no thx p4..i will just type it.....
16:59 <P4> :}
17:03 <Monkey_arma> BUG: Warning in nNetObject* nNetObject::Object(int) in network/nNetObject.cpp:1121 : Netobject 4962 requested, but was never spawned.
17:03 <Monkey_arma> that is again playing in it seems fort cafe
17:05 <MrBougo> :(
17:05 <Monkey_arma> same error/bug more than once for 4962, 4964, 9192
17:05 <Monkey_arma> yes its fort cafe as someone is shouting "grind 4,8"
17:06 <MrBougo> when you say grind 4,8 it bugs?
17:07 <epsy> yet another
17:07 <epsy> wrtlprnft, what's happening ?
17:08 <Monkey_arma> no
17:08 <Monkey_arma> there is random chat either side of the bug
17:08 <Monkey_arma> on that screenshot it only says it once
17:09 <Monkey_arma> on others there is a whole screen of the same message, often with the same number
17:09 <Monkey_arma> its in the middle of play
17:09 <Monkey_arma> and i can see players tails and chat etc as normal
17:09 <epsy> i'm speaking of the weird slides
17:22 <Monkey_arma> if you dont need anymore info then i will go.....anything else before i go?
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18:30 <MrBougo> bye
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19:04 * digitx is away (bye)
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20:17 <epsy> hay MrBougo
20:17 <MrBougo> hoy epso-epsy
20:18 <epsy> O_o
20:18 <MrBougo> bah quoi
20:18 <MrBougo> 'faut bien varier
20:22 <epsy> O_o
20:24 <MrBougo> xD
20:32 <wrtlprnft> again
20:32 <wrtlprnft> someone says "grind 4,8" and it bugs?!
20:32 <ct|kyle> spawn_zone zombie wrtl kyle
20:33 <wrtlprnft> ?
20:33 <MrBougo> lol?
20:34 <ct|kyle> heh
20:34 <ct|kyle> read #cyazy-tronners
20:34 <wrtlprnft> so that bug was induced by you?
20:34 <ct|kyle> #crazy-tronners
20:34 <ct|kyle> ya
20:34 <wrtlprnft> 17:03 <Monkey_arma> BUG: Warning in nNetObject* nNetObject::Object(int) in network/nNetObject.cpp:1121 : Netobject 4962 requested, but was never spawned.
20:35 <wrtlprnft> 17:05 <Monkey_arma> same error/bug more than once for 4962, 4964, 9192
20:35 <wrtlprnft> 17:05 <Monkey_arma> yes its fort cafe as someone is shouting "grind 4,8"
20:35 <wrtlprnft> 17:06 <MrBougo> when you say grind 4,8 it bugs?
20:35 <MrBougo> wrtlprnft: he didnt answer
20:35 <wrtlprnft> anyways, i made your team shuffle change permanent
20:35 <MrBougo> thought it was that
20:35 <ct|kyle> i'm confused
20:36 <wrtlprnft> noone said anything containing “4,8” in the last 100000 log lines…
20:37 <MrBougo> lol
20:37 <ct|kyle> 4,8
20:37 <MrBougo> not here ct|kyle
20:37 <MrBougo> :p
20:37 <wrtlprnft> 560507 [0] Timestamp: 2007/07/21 23:09:51
20:37 <wrtlprnft> 560526 [6] Bishop: i cant grind 4,8
20:37 <wrtlprnft> that?
20:37 <MrBougo> #last --with 4,8 --nolimit
20:37 <wrtlprnft> it's sort of long ago
20:37 <armabot> MrBougo: [20:40:50] <wrtlprnft> 560526 [6] Bishop: i cant grind 4,8, [20:40:29] <ct|kyle> 4,8, [20:40:01] <wrtlprnft> noone said anything containing “4,8” in the last 100000 log lines…, [20:38:24] <wrtlprnft> 17:06 <MrBougo> when you say grind 4,8 it bugs?, [20:38:24] <wrtlprnft> 17:05 <Monkey_arma> yes its fort cafe as someone is shouting "grind 4,8", [20:35:54] <wrtlprnft> someone says (1 more message)
20:37 <MrBougo> #more
20:37 <armabot> MrBougo: "grind 4,8" and it bugs?!, [17:09:37] <MrBougo> when you say grind 4,8 it bugs?, and [17:09:07] <Monkey_arma> yes its fort cafe as someone is shouting "grind 4,8"
20:38 <MrBougo> ooh! bishop!
20:38 <MrBougo> #seen bishop
20:38 <armabot> MrBougo: I have not seen bishop.
20:38 <MrBougo> #lastseen bishop
20:38 <MrBougo> #help lastseen
20:38 <armabot> MrBougo: (lastseen <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/lastseen.php?player=@1+@2+@3+@4+@5+@6+@7+@8+@9".
20:38 <armabot> MrBougo: timed out
20:38 <MrBougo> #lastseen ozo.exe
20:38 <armabot> MrBougo: timed out
20:38 <MrBougo> ew
20:40 <MrBougo> wrtlprnft: it goes "timed out" a bit too fast, doesnt it?
20:43 <MrBougo> #monologue
20:43 <armabot> MrBougo: Your current monologue is at least 9 lines long.
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20:45 <wrtlprnft> MrBougo: i dunno how to change it
20:46 <MrBougo> oh
20:46 <MrBougo> #search time
20:46 <armabot> MrBougo: supybot.reply.format.time, supybot.reply.format.time.elapsed, supybot.reply.format.time.elapsed.short, supybot.plugins.ChannelLogger.timestamp, supybot.plugins.ChannelLogger.filenameTimestamp, supybot.plugins.ChannelLogger.directories.timestamp, supybot.plugins.ChannelLogger.directories.timestamp.format, supybot.plugins.Google.state.time, supybot.plugins.Markov.randomSpeaking.throttleTime, (1 more message)
20:46 <MrBougo> #more
20:46 <armabot> MrBougo: supybot.plugins.Misc.timestampFormat, supybot.plugins.Misc.last.nested.includeTimestamp, supybot.plugins.Time, supybot.plugins.Time.public, supybot.plugins.Time.format, supybot.plugins.Vim.autokban.timeout, supybot.databases.users.timeoutIdentification, supybot.protocols.irc.throttleTime, supybot.defaultSocketTimeout, and supybot.log.timestampFormat
20:46 <MrBougo> no clue
20:47 <MrBougo> ack
20:47 <MrBougo> sumpybot doesnt exist
20:53 <epsy> hmpf
20:53 <epsy> #3402 +(563)- [X]
20:53 <epsy> <|sco|t> doesn anyone in here know a good amount of php
20:53 <epsy> <Jumper> |sco|t, the #php guys do ;)
20:53 <epsy> <JibberJim> |sco|t go to #php
20:53 <epsy> <[ric]> and #women is full of women, go figure
20:53 <epsy> <JibberJim> and #teens is full of 40 year old men.
20:53 <epsy> wrtlprnft, you overclock your servers, right ?
20:54 <wrtlprnft> no
20:54 * wrtlprnft is not stupid
20:55 <wrtlprnft> and their clocks go at a reasonable precision
20:55 <wrtlprnft> a couple of seconds per month
20:55 <epsy> http://epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539/~epsy/screenshots/arma-team/screenshot_157.png
20:55 <epsy> i got that like 5 times today
20:56 <wrtlprnft> o_O
20:56 <epsy> so i don't know what's going on with your clock but it gets synced all the time
20:56 <epsy> and not only 1 time per hour
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20:58 <MrBougo> whats wrong in your screenie epsyµ?
20:59 <epsy> http://epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539/~epsy/screenshots/arma-team/screenshot_155.png
20:59 <epsy> maybe this is clearer to you ?
20:59 <MrBougo> still no
20:59 <MrBougo> t
20:59 <wrtlprnft> someone could have died there
21:00 <epsy> there would be many someones then
21:00 <MrBougo> i dont get it
21:00 <wrtlprnft> i used to run ntpd, but it's not running right now
21:00 <epsy> stop running ntpd ffs -_-
21:00 <MrBougo> i dont freakin get it!
21:00 <MrBougo> oh now i do
21:00 <epsy> MrBougo, i have like 2 parts of trails there
21:00 <wrtlprnft> it hasn't been running for months!
21:00 <MrBougo> i dont
21:01 <wrtlprnft> root@marvin # ps ax | grep [n]tp /usr/src/linux
21:01 <wrtlprnft> root@marvin 1 #
21:01 <epsy> then what the fuck is happening ?
21:01 <MrBougo> oh ok its yours epsy
21:01 <epsy> it's my what ?
21:01 <MrBougo> trail
21:01 <epsy> ah
21:01 <MrBougo> thought it was to someone who died
21:01 <MrBougo> for me, trail with no cycle = dead player
21:02 <epsy> ah true...could be
21:02 <MrBougo> did the tail move?
21:03 <epsy> yes i slided there
21:03 <epsy> i'm wondering why these always happen to defenders or sweepers
21:03 <wrtlprnft> i don't make recordings, sorry
21:03 <epsy> eww
21:04 <MrBougo> because attackers die faster
21:04 <epsy> it would be fun if an attacker got slided inside the defender's line
21:04 <wrtlprnft> sort of impossible
21:05 <MrBougo> hehe
21:05 <MrBougo> would be, indeed
21:05 <epsy> it is
21:05 <epsy> i already seen guys going through walls with these slides
21:05 <MrBougo> it'd be just like with the max-charged shot on CTF (not crazy etc) shooting
21:06 * wrtlprnft wishes z-man-work would run his bugfarm fortress server again
21:06 <wrtlprnft> he's the only guy who really understands the engine
21:06 <wrtlprnft> let's just hope he stays away from buses
21:10 <MrBougo> bugfarm fortress
21:10 <MrBougo> aaah
21:10 <MrBougo> such a lovely server
21:11 <MrBougo> aka CVS Test Server
21:11 <MrBougo> where he experimented squeezing
21:11 <MrBougo> it was fun as hell
21:11 <MrBougo> as*
21:11 <MrBougo> err hell is not a good example
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21:16 <MrBougo> hello Lackadaisical
21:17 <MrBougo> took mee too long to write his name
21:18 <MrBougo> i love working at a hypermarket
21:27 <MrBougo> cyas!
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22:04 <wrtlprnft> woot, luke is gone!
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22:24 <O_o> finally a correct irc client which works on everychannel here and there
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23:29 <Lucifer_arma> heh. Just saw the guy that approves my timesheets for the first time in like 6 weeks
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23:39 <epsy> woa
23:39 <epsy> just got a strange time out
23:39 <epsy> i was playing
23:39 <epsy> then my opponent stopped turning
23:39 <epsy> and i was attacking my own zone then
23:39 <epsy> but the ennemy was far away
23:39 <epsy> then i do a screenshot
23:39 <epsy> and nothing comes back
23:40 <epsy> i press the screenshot button another time and i see the next frame
23:40 <epsy> then the server kicks me for timing out
23:43 <Lucifer_arma> quit timing out
23:43 <Lucifer_arma> what kind of computer?
23:43 <Lucifer_arma> specifically, is it a kind of machine that would really drag while compressing a png?
23:43 <epsy> O_o
23:44 <epsy> it's the kind of comp which has a good cpu and a shitty gpu
23:44 <epsy> meeh
23:45 <epsy> PING google.com (64.233.187.99) 56(84) bytes of data.
23:45 <epsy> --- google.com ping statistics ---
23:45 <epsy> 4 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 3002ms
23:59 <digitx> epsy flooder
23:59 -!- luke-jr is now known as luke-jr|
23:59 <epsy> wanna get more, digitx ?
Log from 2007-08-07:
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00:00 -!- luke-jr| is now known as luke-jr_
00:00 <digitx> ty no
00:00 <digitx> epsy, bad
00:00 <digitx> luke-jr_, bad xD
00:00 <luke-jr_> digitx: hungary
00:00 <digitx> bad hungary!
00:00 <epsy> digitx, hungary
00:00 <digitx> luke
00:00 <digitx> karlsruhe?
00:00 <digitx> :
00:00 <digitx> :P
00:01 <digitx> u know who is Ben Scholzen ?
00:01 <epsy> #google Ben Scholzen
00:01 <armabot> epsy: Search took 0.07 seconds: DASPRiD's: Information about DASPRiD: <http://www.dasprids.de/about>; DASPRiD's: Latest news about me and my projects: <http://www.dasprids.de/>; www.cyclingnews.com - the world centre of cycling: <http://www.cyclingnews.com/road.php?id=road/2007/jun07/tourofohio07/tourofohio076>; www.cyclingnews.com - the world centre of cycling: (2 more messages)
00:01 <digitx> xD
00:01 <epsy> now i do
00:01 <digitx> ...
00:01 <digitx> u saw him?
00:02 <epsy> i played with him -_-
00:02 <digitx> me too
00:02 <digitx> ..
00:02 <epsy> on derelict's benmachine XD
00:02 <epsy> harr that mod is fun :P
00:02 <digitx> benmachine?
00:02 <digitx> :D
00:02 <digitx> jea
00:02 <digitx> fun
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00:52 <epsy> .let's split this
00:53 <epsy> ...or not
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00:57 * noob7 rings the # bell
00:57 <epsy> gaston!!!
00:57 <noob7> I am not serving you :p
00:57 <epsy> :D
00:57 <noob7> what's cracking epsy?
00:58 * Lucifer_arma cracks epsy
00:58 <epsy> and drunkadrukaland is still down due to cpu usage exceeds...thanks phpBB
00:58 <noob7> quick thinking
00:58 <noob7> is dorka out of time or what?
00:59 <noob7> erm town
00:59 <epsy> well, drunka disappeared as well lol
00:59 <noob7> :D
00:59 <epsy> what a stupid world
01:00 <noob7> did you ever try logging into that bnc epsy? I removed it after it spammed my sBNC console window with stupid crap
01:00 * epsy considers sleeping
01:00 <epsy> ah ?
01:00 <noob7> no sleep till brooklyn for me
01:00 <epsy> no i still didn't :/
01:01 <epsy> i should look how to use one xD
01:01 <noob7> maybe we can work this out tomorrow, I'm not going to keep you from sleeping
01:01 <epsy> ok
01:01 * epsy looks how lazy he is
01:01 <noob7> deal
01:02 <epsy> with ?
01:02 <noob7> the devil
01:02 <epsy> Lucifer_arma, can i deal something with you ?
01:02 <noob7> crack preferably
01:02 <epsy> i need some crack
01:02 <noob7> that's what I was refering to
01:03 <noob7> then we can also answer the question "what's cracking"
01:03 <noob7> meh
01:03 * epsy looks for ##php chatlogs
01:03 <noob7> good night epsy :D
01:04 <epsy> #time
01:04 <armabot> epsy: 01:08 AM, August 07, 2007
01:07 <epsy> 02:00 <****> so PHP basically ran into an infinite recursion loop?
01:07 <epsy> 02:00 <****> so THAAATS why it sucks!
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01:09 <Lucifer_arma> epsy: what?
01:10 <epsy> 01:58 <****> what does PHP mean? does it mean "Programmers Hate Php"?
01:10 <epsy> 01:58 <****> no
01:10 <epsy> 01:59 <****> it's an infinatly recursive thing
01:10 <epsy> 01:59 <****> php hypertext proccessor
01:10 <epsy> 01:59 <****> and that php means the same thing
01:10 <epsy> 01:59 <****> over and over and over
01:10 <epsy> 02:00 <****> so PHP basically ran into an infinite recursion loop?
01:10 <epsy> 02:00 <****> so THAAATS why it sucks!
01:10 <Lucifer_arma> er, is that what you wanted to "deal" with me?
01:10 <epsy> ah
01:10 <epsy> maybe not then
01:10 <Lucifer_arma> heh
01:10 <|Sticky|> like gnu's no unix
01:10 <Lucifer_arma> what does GNU mean?
01:10 <Lucifer_arma> LAME?
01:10 <epsy> seems i'm already on crack
01:10 <Lucifer_arma> WINE?
01:11 <|Sticky|> lame an mp3 encoder
01:11 <Lucifer_arma> recursive acronyms are a staple of open source software :)
01:11 <epsy> php hypertext proccessor hypertext proccessor hypertext proccessor hypertext proccessor hypertext proccessor hypertext proccessor hypertext proccessor hypertext proccessor hypertext proccessor hypertext proccessor hypertext proccessor hypertext proccessor hypertext proccessor hypertext proccessor hypertext proccessor hypertext proccessor hypertext proccessor hypertext proccessor hypertext proccessor hypertext proccessor hypertext proc
01:11 <epsy> cessor hypertext proccessor hypertext proccessor hypertext proccessor hypertext proccessor
01:11 <epsy> i wish irc were recusrive
01:12 <Lucifer_arma> irc relay chat isn't recursive?
01:12 <epsy> ah it is
01:12 <Lucifer_arma> :P (yes, I know what the I really means)
01:12 <epsy> irc relay chat relay chat relay chat relay chat relay chat relay chat relay chat relay chat relay chat relay chat relay chat relay chat
01:12 <Lucifer_arma> see, I don't like recursive acronyms, which is why ACME stands for "Armagetron Advanced Resource Editor"
01:13 <epsy> well, it wouldn't have been good as ACME Advanced REsource Editor
01:13 <|Sticky|> Unix is Not unIX
01:13 <Lucifer_arma> much better than that recursive crap
01:14 <epsy> MBTTRC is better than that recursive crap
01:14 <Lucifer_arma> and if I ever get it usable, maybe it'll start a new meme, eh? ;)
01:15 <Lucifer_arma> #cyborg acme
01:15 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: A.C.M.E.: Artificial Construct Manufactured for Exploration
01:15 <Lucifer_arma> am I the only one that thinks "exploration" is an erotic word?
01:15 <|Sticky|> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Linux
01:16 <epsy> http://images1.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/thumb/6/6c/Bouncywikilogo.gif/60px-Bouncywikilogo.gif
01:17 <Lucifer_arma> it's funny how everything is expanded to ____ is not unix
01:17 <epsy> Lucifer_arma is the guard against recursion crap
01:20 <Lucifer_arma> Rumour has it there is even a "3" in development.
01:21 <|Sticky|> http://www.linuxsucks.org/ fantastic site
01:22 <|Sticky|> also: http://www.linuxgenuineadvantage.org/ one of the funniest sites ive ever read
01:22 <epsy> http://ie7.com/
01:23 <|Sticky|> "According to an independent study conducted by some scientists, many users of Linux are running non-Genuine versions of their operating system"
01:23 <|Sticky|> heh
01:23 <Lucifer_arma> Linux® is being criticized by animal rights activists, because each Linux® machine needs a real living penguin within the machine's case (for cooling reasons).
01:24 <epsy> « Plus, if you act now, we promise not to launch unfounded lawsuits against you »
01:24 <epsy> « (possibly by using other smaller companies as pawns) »
01:24 <|Sticky|> epsy: it is a real product that will actualy disable your copy of linux
01:24 <epsy> « LATEST NEWS:
01:24 <epsy> Linux Genuine Advantage™ has been cracked by computer hackers!
01:24 <epsy> Rather than improving our software, we'll be sending our team of intimidating lawyers to pay them a visit. »
01:26 <epsy> print "To benefit from the Advantage of Genuine Linux, you must fill out this form\n";
01:26 <epsy> print "and send this information, along with your yearly subscription payment*, to\n";
01:26 <epsy> print "http://www.linuxgenuineadvantage.org/\n";
01:26 <epsy> print "First Name: ________________________________________________________\n";
01:26 <epsy> xD
01:26 <Lucifer_arma> “My uber kung-fu skills”
01:26 <Lucifer_arma> ~ RMS on RMS' Uber Kung-Fu skills
01:28 <epsy> Q: What is that bird in the photos, and why did you choose it?
01:29 <epsy> cu i'm off
01:29 <Lucifer_arma> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Richard_M_Stallman_Vs._Linus_Torvalds
01:32 <epsy> Now Playing: gorillaz - fire coming out of the monkeys head
01:35 <Lucifer_arma> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Rick_James_Version_of_the_Bible
01:36 <Lucifer_arma> (1:5) And God called da light ‘crackers’, and da blackness he called ‘brudas’, and dat’s how it bizz fum day one, bitch. Lop some boogie.
01:37 <Lucifer_arma> # I be da damn LORD, bitch, who brought y'all niggas asses out da land uh Egypt t'be yo' God.
01:37 <Lucifer_arma> Duzn't ya' fuckin' swear by mah' dojigger in vain. 'S coo', bro, ah' ain't gonna hold dem fuckas innocent who put swears next t'my dojigger.
01:38 <Lucifer_arma> You's best not cheatin' on yo' bitches wit' some greasy, nasty-ass hoes.
01:38 <epsy> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Your_mom
01:39 <Lucifer_arma> # You's best not covet yo neighbo's crib, ya' best not covet yo' neighbour's bitch - no matta' how damn fine she be - no' dey gimp, no' dey ho, no' dey ox, no' dey ass, no' any damn doodad dat be yo' neighbo's, and ya' best not be doin' 'em, eider. Ah be baaad...
01:39 <Lucifer_arma> heh
01:39 <Lucifer_arma> the RJV page has a translation of Armaments :)
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01:40 <|Sticky|> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Tron
01:49 <Lucifer_arma> Augmented boobs have also been part of a successful military project. WMD's (Weapons of Mass Distraction)have been effectively used in The War on Tourism
01:52 <Lucifer_arma> An interesting point to note is that deep down inside, everybody loves boobs - men, women and children (except gays and the occasional catholic).
01:56 <Lucifer_arma> Boobs and lesbians are a fundamental part of human life. If they did not exist, it is estimated that 9,999,999 million people per second would actually die of disappointment; thus leading to the extinction of the human race.
01:58 <Lucifer_arma> Studies have shown that 4/3 of people who stare at boobs have problems with fractions.
02:07 <Lucifer_arma> Flat Chests are the bane of manhood as we currently know it. While nobody focuses on tiny human female breasts any longer, it should be also noted that male humans also have flat chests (although usually less prominent) and are born with two main milk ducts intact. Historically speaking, males are annoyed with this, owing to the fact that they cannot stay at home and play with them constantly.
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02:42 <spidey> please note
02:43 <spidey> if i'm not back in a few hours
02:43 <digitx> :)
02:43 <spidey> it's because i pushed my brother down the stairs with the a/c ontop of him
02:43 <spidey> :D
02:43 <digitx> xD
02:43 <digitx> spidi
02:43 <digitx> nub
02:43 <digitx> xD
02:43 <spidey> lol
02:43 <spidey> we're moving everything
02:43 <digitx> how are u?
02:43 <digitx> answer
02:43 <spidey> from upstairs to downstairs
02:43 <digitx> :p
02:43 <spidey> and stuff downstairs to other rooms
02:43 <spidey> talking about a job...
02:44 <digitx> .
02:44 <spidey> 2 king size beds
02:44 <digitx> luke-jr_, bad
02:44 <spidey> 2 twin beds
02:44 <spidey> all the pc crap
02:44 <digitx> spidey?
02:44 <digitx> spidey?
02:44 <digitx> spidey?
02:44 <digitx> u talking with ... ?
02:44 <digitx> :D
02:44 <spidey> me myself and i
02:44 <digitx> xD
02:44 <spidey> bbl
02:45 <digitx> bbbb
03:31 * digitx is away (bye)
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05:26 <luke-jr_> digitx: hungary
05:59 <GodTodd> only if he hasn't eaten
06:50 * Lucifer_arma eats digitx
06:52 <luke-jr_> [23:04:13] <GodTodd> only if he hasn't been eaten
06:55 <GodTodd> [2007-08-06 22:30] <luke-jr_> digitx: sorry i'm a moron
07:10 <GodTodd> [2007-08-06 22:30] <luke-jr_> darwin is my god
07:58 * Lucifer_arma wonders what kind of idiot would worship, as a god, a man who quite clearly was not a god
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.denverpost.com/headlines/ci_6552759
08:10 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: Christians? :)
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> :)
08:11 <GodTodd> hrmm...test over series and sequences tomorrow :/
08:11 <GodTodd> err...today now i guess
08:11 <GodTodd> heh
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> have fun with that :)
08:13 * Lucifer_arma got a 69 or something on his series and sequences test
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> so did y'all do vector valued functions at all? multivariable?
08:14 <GodTodd> dunno
08:14 <GodTodd> what would be an example?
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> f(x,y) = something <---- multivariable
08:14 <GodTodd> nope
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> r(t) = < t, 1+t, t^2 >
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> er, vector, that second one
08:15 <GodTodd> i think they leave that for the next one
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> do you have to take the next one?
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> I thought when I read the catalog description that it had you starting with those in calc 2
08:15 <GodTodd> i have to take advanced engineering math which seems to be just another form of calc 3
08:17 <Lucifer_arma> link?
08:17 <Lucifer_arma> if you don't mind :)
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> and a link to the course you just finished
08:18 * Lucifer_arma will dig up links to the ones at acc and compare
08:18 <GodTodd> sec
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> http://www3.austincc.edu/catalog/fy2008/descmath.htm#math2414
08:42 <GodTodd> https://studentservices.ccccd.edu/course_catalog/catalogM20074.htm#MATH2414
08:42 <GodTodd> http://www.utdallas.edu/student/catalog/ugcurrent/ugprograms/ee.html
08:43 <GodTodd> second one you're looking at EE3300
08:44 <GodTodd> (sorry...had to take a dump somewhere in there :) )
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08:51 <Lucifer_arma> hm
08:51 <Lucifer_arma> I'm not seeing the same course description you showed me at the start of the session :)
08:52 <Lucifer_arma> says "vectors", but that's not vector-valued functions, is it?
08:52 <GodTodd> you want the calc 3 one too?
08:52 <Lucifer_arma> nah, I'm satisfied, thanks :)
08:54 <GodTodd> https://studentservices.ccccd.edu/course_catalog/catalogM20081.htm#MATH2415
08:54 <GodTodd> there it is anyway :)
08:54 <GodTodd> that one has it
08:55 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, that's the one alright :)
08:59 <Lucifer_arma> I need to stop letting wikipedia distract me
08:59 <Lucifer_arma> I need to be going to bed :/
09:06 <GodTodd> me too :/
09:14 <Lucifer_arma> got distracted reading about bridge disasters
09:16 <guru3> ccccd?
09:16 <guru3> that's a lot of cs.
09:16 <Lucifer_arma> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quick_Chek_New_Jersey_Festival_of_Ballooning
09:17 <Lucifer_arma> I just read the dumbest piece of trash ever, and sadly, it was on wikipedia
09:17 <Lucifer_arma> Since 2004, the festival has hired a virgin to perform a ritual to ensure good weather for the festival. It has worked for three straight years.
09:17 <Lucifer_arma> The 2007 virgin, Victoria Brumfield (born 1979), said it is a mixture of "fun and embarrassment" and that "if it does rain, my virtue is not to blame. I'm waiting until I'm married and no one has asked yet." She is a devout Mormon.[2][3] [4]
09:17 <Lucifer_arma> she's a devout mormon performing pagan rituals for a ballooning festival?
09:17 <Lucifer_arma> ri-i-i-ight
09:17 <guru3> Oo
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09:18 <guru3> might be a page to mark for moderation or some such
09:19 <Lucifer_arma> I could just edit the page and fix it
09:19 <Lucifer_arma> no source is cited, but the assumption that the ritual is responsible for the lack of rain is probably not the sort of thing wikipedia should be assuming :)
09:20 <guru3> lol
09:20 <guru3> indeed
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10:11 <eddiefantastic> hi
10:11 <eddiefantastic> I made a zones v2 movie, it's 15Mb
10:11 <eddiefantastic> http://plantpeanuts.co.uk/images/zones2.avi
10:11 <eddiefantastic> can someone see if they can play it?
10:12 <eddiefantastic> It played in mplayer, but winamp is having none of it for me
10:12 <wrtlprnft> wget http://plantpeanuts.co.uk/images/zones2.avi
10:12 <wrtlprnft> oops
10:14 <wrtlprnft> wah, cheater. i stopped in each corner of the map to win
10:14 <eddiefantastic> haha
10:14 <wrtlprnft> but yeah, it plays fine
10:14 <eddiefantastic> I was playing in a very window to make the movie
10:14 <eddiefantastic> it wasn't easy
10:15 <wrtlprnft> :D
10:15 <eddiefantastic> http://recordmydesktop.iovar.org/about.php
10:15 <eddiefantastic> great app
10:16 <eddiefantastic> well, I'd like windows users to be able to play it too
10:16 <eddiefantastic> I suppose not many hang out here
10:17 <wrtlprnft> well, it's a theora movie
10:17 <wrtlprnft> windows doesn't like standards
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10:37 <eddiefantastic> mplayer for windows ;)
10:37 <eddiefantastic> don't even need to install it, just extract the zip file
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13:33 <beta_usa> epsy: I assumed it's enough, but still, there will be other services and i'd like to know (more or less) what bandwich will be used by one server, say around 10 people (i plan to make more than one server).
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13:33 <beta_usa> What do you mean ?
13:33 <wrtlprnft_> oh noes
13:33 <wrtlprnft_> my IP changed
13:33 <beta_usa> A dedicated server in a datacenter.
13:34 <epsy> chez qui tu comptes acheter ton vps/dedi
13:34 <beta_usa> dedibox.
13:34 <epsy> ah ok
13:34 -!- wrtlprnft [n=wrtlprnf@85.233.38.240.static.cablesurf.de] has quit [Nick collision from services.]
13:34 -!- You're now known as wrtlprnft
13:34 <epsy> wrtlprnft, really ? O_o
13:34 <noob7> wow wrtlprnft - first IP change in like 2 years? :p
13:34 <wrtlprnft> yeah
13:34 <epsy> beta_usa, averaging kb/user i think
13:34 <epsy> XD
13:35 <wrtlprnft> accidentally unplugged my modem
13:35 <noob7> lol wrtlprnft :D
13:35 <wrtlprnft> well, need to switch around all my domains
13:35 <epsy> *caugh* did you broke your uptime *caugh*
13:35 <wrtlprnft> 13:35:51 up 205 days, 2:43, 5 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
13:36 <beta_usa> Heh nice one.
13:36 <epsy> i wonder if it stays the same on netcraft :D
13:36 <noob7> does this influence one of the masterlists?
13:36 <beta_usa> I had a good uptime too, but i don't own this box anymore :/
13:36 <beta_usa> (like 2years and a half uptime)/
13:36 <wrtlprnft> hmm, i wonder where master3 is pointing
13:37 <epsy> harr i might consider BSD servers
13:37 <beta_usa> I wonder if I can make armagetron server run on OpenBSD.
13:38 <epsy> should work
13:38 <beta_usa> I hope.
13:38 <epsy> heh
13:39 <wrtlprnft> #ping
13:39 <armabot> pong
13:39 <wrtlprnft> did she rejoin?
13:40 <epsy> nope
13:40 <wrtlprnft> interesting
13:40 <epsy> not after i joined at least
13:41 <wrtlprnft> hmm, my webserver works again it seems
13:41 <epsy> #lastseen
13:41 <wrtlprnft> and master3 updated itself :)
13:41 <armabot> epsy: timed out
13:41 <epsy> #lastseen a
13:42 <armabot> epsy: timed out
13:42 <epsy> that broke it
13:42 <noob7> ah nice
13:44 <wrtlprnft> can someone test if my master3 still works?
13:44 <epsy> i can't be sure if i can ping anything
13:44 <epsy> but
13:44 <wrtlprnft> just open the master server browser until it tries to get a list from master3
13:45 <epsy> PING wrtlprnft.ath.cx (77.47.5.89) 56(84) bytes of data.
13:45 <epsy> --- wrtlprnft.ath.cx ping statistics ---
13:45 <epsy> 4 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 3005ms
13:45 <epsy> i got problems with master3 yesterday
13:45 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_: http://pastebin.ca/648543 <-- did your ssh key change?!
13:45 <epsy> well, i think it was master3
13:45 <epsy> but i was laggying completely
13:45 <wrtlprnft> epsy: but you can wget http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx?
13:45 <epsy> wait
13:45 <epsy> PING google.com (64.233.167.99) 56(84) bytes of data.
13:45 <epsy> --- google.com ping statistics ---
13:45 <epsy> 4 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 3003ms
13:45 <epsy> i was sure this would happen
13:45 <wrtlprnft> err
13:46 <wrtlprnft> armagetronad@marvin $ ping wrtlprnft.ath.cx ~
13:46 <wrtlprnft> PING wrtlprnft.ath.cx (77.47.5.89) 56(84) bytes of data.
13:46 <wrtlprnft> 64 bytes from 77.47.5.89.static.cablesurf.de (77.47.5.89): icmp_seq=1 ttl=57 time=22.8 ms
13:46 <wrtlprnft> 64 bytes from 77.47.5.89.static.cablesurf.de (77.47.5.89): icmp_seq=2 ttl=57 time=18.7 ms
13:46 <epsy> you could use -c4 the next time -_-
13:46 <wrtlprnft> ?
13:47 <wrtlprnft> i executed it on a real console and copied and pasted the first 4 lines
13:47 <epsy> ping -c4
13:47 <wrtlprnft> who cares about statistics?
13:47 <wrtlprnft> you can see that it's the first two pings by looking at icmp_seq
13:47 <epsy> me, too see if i got the jackpot
13:47 <epsy> and i just got it twice
13:47 <epsy> 100% lost
13:49 <epsy> i'm wondering how i do resolve freenode in less than 1 second
13:49 <epsy> but i'm still trying to join the forums
13:49 <wrtlprnft> argh.
13:49 <wrtlprnft> can someone else try it for a change?
13:50 <epsy> damn i'm completely lagged out of anything -_-
13:50 <Lucifer_arma> hang on
13:50 <wrtlprnft> thanks
13:50 <wrtlprnft> i switched routers, and the new one is running openwrt
13:50 <Lucifer_arma> nope
13:51 <wrtlprnft> the manual says how to forward tcp ports, but not udp.
13:51 <Lucifer_arma> failed to connect to master 3
13:51 <epsy> woot
13:51 <Lucifer_arma> I got lucky, it picked it first
13:51 <Lucifer_arma> connected to master 1 just fine, though
13:52 <wrtlprnft> i can connect just fine from a computer in my networt
13:55 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: if you ping master3.aa.net, what ip does it pick?
13:55 <Lucifer_arma> PING master3.aa.net (82.98.86.161) 56(84) bytes of data
13:56 <Lucifer_arma> PING wrtlprnft.ath.cx (77.47.5.89) 56(84) bytes of data.
13:56 * Lucifer_arma wonders what aa.net is
13:56 <wrtlprnft> it doesn't exist
13:56 <Lucifer_arma> Accept ntp traffic for OPN access point at 192.168.2.2 (eccentrica gallumbits).
13:56 <Lucifer_arma> ${IPTABLES} -A FORWARD -i ${OPN_IF} -o ${WAN_IF} -s 192.168.2.2/32 -m udp -p udp --dport 123 -j ACCEPT
13:56 <epsy> http://epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539/~epsy/screenshots/arma-team/screenshot_168.png hmm nice
13:57 <wrtlprnft> i just rely on the people i talk to be smart enough to figure out what i really mean
13:57 <Lucifer_arma> https://rejo.zenger.nl/misc/1162753829.php
13:57 <Lucifer_arma> I rely on people to give me copy and paste terminal commands :)
13:57 <wrtlprnft> sorry
13:58 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, I don't know if that link is helpful, it's very descriptive and detailed, and yet, still not very informative
13:58 <wrtlprnft> anyways, i just checked out the server browser used on beta.armagetronad.net and it works with my master…
13:59 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: you can wget http://master3.armagetronad.net/ -O/dev/null, right?
13:59 <Lucifer_arma> > HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
13:59 <Lucifer_arma> > Length: 4,342 (4.2K) [text/html]
13:59 <Lucifer_arma> > 100%[=====================================================================>] 4,342 25.78K/s
14:00 <wrtlprnft> hmm
14:00 <Lucifer_arma> that came out uglier than expected, but yeah
14:06 <Lucifer_arma> dave@gerard:~$ uptime
14:06 <Lucifer_arma> 07:13:48 up 11 days, 15:50, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.08
14:06 <Lucifer_arma> new server's coming along nicely, it seems :)
14:12 <spidey> i have another waste of space added to the network
14:13 <spidey> i now have everything from pentium, and pentium 4, a celeron, and a duron
14:13 <spidey> -and+to
14:13 <epsy> and a gaston
14:14 <spidey> hmm
14:14 <spidey> aslong as it supports wireless
14:14 <spidey> i'm out of ports on the router
14:14 <Lucifer_arma> me too, considering getting a switch
14:15 <spidey> laptop uses wireless
14:15 <spidey> heh
14:15 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: how easy was it to install openwrt?
14:15 <spidey> you know
14:15 <Lucifer_arma> and what kind of router?
14:15 <spidey> you'd be amazed at what you can find in a mexican trailor park
14:15 <spidey> i was at my moms, and we drove by this one lot
14:15 <spidey> there was atleast 10 cases with mobos and other parts
14:16 <spidey> so, knowing me, i was like stop!
14:16 <spidey> luckily she has a truck
14:18 <spidey> makes me happy when people throw out decent systems because they're loaded with spyware or virus's, aswell
14:18 <spidey> :D
14:20 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: wrt45gl
14:20 <wrtlprnft> very easy actually
14:20 <Lucifer_arma> connected this time
14:20 <Lucifer_arma> I guess it was just a dns propogation thing, then?
14:21 <wrtlprnft> yeah
14:21 <wrtlprnft> thanks anyways
14:21 <Lucifer_arma> np
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14:25 <wrtlprnft> i had it running for two weeks or so and it worked, now i switched my old router for it
14:33 <Lucifer_arma> I don't have a spare, which is the reason I haven't tried openwrt
14:34 <wrtlprnft> what kind of router do you have?
14:34 <Lucifer_arma> Firmware Version: v2.02.7, Feb. 27, 2004
14:34 <Lucifer_arma> wrt54g
14:35 <Lucifer_arma> linksys
14:35 <Lucifer_arma> I'm starting to talk like spidey :/
14:35 <spidey> ?
14:35 <wrtlprnft> http://wiki.openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs/Hardware/Linksys/WRT54G
14:35 <wrtlprnft> what version?
14:36 <Lucifer_arma> aha, 2.0
14:36 <wrtlprnft> that should be just fine
14:36 <Lucifer_arma> says its supported
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14:37 <wrtlprnft> it's got pretty much the same specs as mine
14:37 <Lucifer_arma> does the out of the box configuration work fine as a nat router, or do I have to do extra work to make it work?
14:37 * Lucifer_arma wants to move his master server to his router sometime
14:38 <wrtlprnft> irrc it will get its wan ip per dhcp and have the ip 192.168.1
14:39 <wrtlprnft> you have to edit a text file to do port forwarding, though
14:39 <Lucifer_arma> did you install the basic system, or the one with the web interface?
14:40 <wrtlprnft> the default one
14:40 <wrtlprnft> actually the one i have on there right now is a customized image i compiled myself
14:41 <wrtlprnft> basically i took the default image, stripped off all the ppp crap and added screen and a couple of busybox features
14:41 <wrtlprnft> you can do that on the default image once it's installed, but it will eat more space
14:42 <Lucifer_arma> well, if I'm already confident with the process, it doesn't matter :)
14:42 <Lucifer_arma> I have a different dhcp server, though
14:42 <Lucifer_arma> so I don't want/need my router to provide dhcp service
14:42 <wrtlprnft> it doesn't do so by default
14:43 <Lucifer_arma> same with dns service, I have a dns server :)
14:43 <Lucifer_arma> (even if it doesn't know your new ip address)
14:44 <wrtlprnft> heh
14:44 <wrtlprnft> my new IP is 3 chars shorter
14:45 <wrtlprnft> maybe i'll finally be able to memorize it
14:45 <noob7> does it spell a word when typed on your cell?
14:45 <noob7> .D
14:45 <wrtlprnft> hmm
14:46 <wrtlprnft> i don't have a cell, but i'll have to try
14:46 <noob7> http://www.phonespell.org/
14:47 <wrtlprnft> http://www.phonespell.org/combo.cgi?n=7747589
14:47 <wrtlprnft> errm, well
14:47 <wrtlprnft> sir lux sounds good
14:47 <wrtlprnft> just need to memorize the dots
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14:49 <noob7> get it tattoed, but make sure not to stumble across your room plugging out that modem again
14:50 <wrtlprnft> heh
14:50 <wrtlprnft> maybe i should just memorize that 4.2.2.1 is a DNS server and wrtlprnft.ath.cx should point to my IP
14:51 <noob7> http://www.phonespell.org/combo.cgi?n=127001 :(
14:51 * noob7 snickers
14:51 <wrtlprnft> 0 = space, right?
14:51 <noob7> depends on your phone really... its "+" for me
14:52 <noob7> weird microsoft mobile and all
14:52 <wrtlprnft> http://www.phonespell.org/combo.cgi?n=127423141
14:52 <Lucifer_arma> http://x-wrt.org/
14:52 <noob7> 1-bribe-1-I-1 ?
14:52 <wrtlprnft> i tried it, it looks nice and all, but decided i didn't really need it
14:52 <noob7> lol!!11elven!11 :p
14:53 <wrtlprnft> just forget about 127.0.0.1 and use 127.42.3.141
14:53 <wrtlprnft> by the way, the default web interface is valid xhtml :)
14:54 <Lucifer_arma> heh
14:54 * Lucifer_arma goes to dig up a link about xhtml
14:54 <noob7> #lastseen duudii
14:54 <wrtlprnft> ctrl-alt-v in opera
14:54 <armabot> noob7: timed out
14:55 <noob7> is armabot broken?
14:55 <noob7> #onlineservers
14:55 <wrtlprnft> good question
14:55 <armabot> noob7: timed out
14:55 <wrtlprnft> #fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx
14:55 <noob7> :`(
14:55 <wrtlprnft> weird
14:55 <wrtlprnft> #fetch http://localhost
14:55 <armabot> wrtlprnft: timed out
14:55 <armabot> wrtlprnft: '<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?><!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN"\n "html-dtd/xhtml1-strict.dtd">\n<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">\n<head>\n<title>Wrtlprnft\'s home server</title>\n<!--<style type="text/css">li:hover {display:none}</style>-->\n</head><body>\n<h1>Wrtlprnft\'s home server</h1>\n<p>\nThis is mostly a place for random crap that (5 more messages)
14:55 <wrtlprnft> !
14:55 <wrtlprnft> ok, something's broken there
14:56 <wrtlprnft> hmm, it still thinks wrtlprnft.ath.cx is 85.233.38.240
14:56 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.hixie.ch/advocacy/xhtml
14:57 <wrtlprnft> #onlineservers
14:57 <armabot> wrtlprnft: This data is 4574 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (12/14), Bugfarm Elimination Sumo (4/16), Tigers Network Classic Play (4/16), Norm's Place (4/12), ¬| D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (3/16), ~TP~ The Plague ~TP~ (2/6), Swampland in 2.7.1 (2/8), Wildcat (2/16), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (2/12), Chico's Brake Boost Styball (2/8), |FA| Clan Server 1  (1 more message)
14:57 <wrtlprnft> well, that was a quick localhost fix
14:57 <wrtlprnft> in /etc/hosts
14:57 <noob7> yay
14:58 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: if i can i always implement a switch that serves the content as application/xhtml+xml if it's mentioned in the Accept header
14:58 <wrtlprnft> which means that IE gets buggy content, but it's a buggy browser
15:00 <Lucifer_arma> someone I email has recently been infected with a virus
15:00 <Lucifer_arma> like today
15:00 <wrtlprnft> #onlineservers
15:00 <armabot> wrtlprnft: This data is 4754 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (12/14), Bugfarm Elimination Sumo (4/16), Tigers Network Classic Play (4/16), Norm's Place (4/12), ¬| D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (3/16), ~TP~ The Plague ~TP~ (2/6), Swampland in 2.7.1 (2/8), Wildcat (2/16), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (2/12), Chico's Brake Boost Styball (2/8), |FA| Clan Server 1  (1 more message)
15:00 <wrtlprnft> hmm, it's not updating
15:01 <Lucifer_arma> does ie7 understand application/xhtml+xml ?
15:01 <wrtlprnft> no
15:01 <wrtlprnft> it still offers the file as a download
15:04 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm serving up plain html from my website
15:04 <Lucifer_arma> (I use txt2tags to generate it)
15:05 <wrtlprnft> i don't care whether it's valid xhtml or valid html
15:05 <wrtlprnft> but it's valid
15:05 <Lucifer_arma> my site is?
15:06 * Lucifer_arma hasn't run any of his pages through a validator
15:06 <Lucifer_arma> ack, wtf!?!?
15:07 <Lucifer_arma> http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.davefancella.com&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0
15:07 <wrtlprnft> first of all it's one of the sites you have to access via http://www.davefancella.com/, not http://davefancella.com/
15:07 <wrtlprnft> that's an interesting page
15:08 <wrtlprnft> who closes a div and gives it an id in its closing tag?
15:09 <Lucifer_arma> heh
15:09 <Lucifer_arma> something wrong with my txt2tags source, apparently
15:09 <wrtlprnft> that's the kind of error you'd notice if you served your site as xhtml
15:09 <wrtlprnft> the browser would display it
15:09 <spidey> http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http%3A%2F%2Ffallin-angels.org&warning=1&profile=css21&usermedium=all
15:10 <Lucifer_arma> could have sworn the script rendered to html, not xhtml
15:11 <closedwrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma, wtf does id do in a closing tag ????
15:11 <closedwrtlprnft> harr already said
15:11 -!- closedwrtlprnft is now known as epsy
15:11 <wrtlprnft> ok, the master server browser works again
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15:14 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmm, I need to get it to regenerate the whole site now
15:14 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, delete it! :)
15:16 <Lucifer_arma> now it's valid
15:16 <Lucifer_arma> of course, now it looks like crap, too
15:19 <Lucifer_arma> still broken, but better now
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15:24 <Lucifer_arma> html4 transitional had divs, right?
15:25 <wrtlprnft> ?
15:26 <wrtlprnft> they all have divs
15:26 <wrtlprnft> it's just that in transitional you can put inline elements directly into divs and forms, in strict you can't
15:26 <Lucifer_arma> aha, figuring it out now :)
15:26 <wrtlprnft> so some incredibly intelligent people had the idea to just wrap everything in a div
15:27 <wrtlprnft> http://www.davefancella.com/software/ is still a mess
15:27 <wrtlprnft> xhtml is case sensitive!
15:31 * epsy is looking for a tray program which can autohide
15:32 <Lucifer_arma> hey, it looks fixed
15:32 * Lucifer_arma checks to see if his browser cached it
15:32 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, I shouldn't have done this
15:32 <Lucifer_arma> I'm going to just quit now before I break it more
15:32 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: no, but my hostname might have, unless I can get SSH to go somewhere other than browsers
15:32 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: no, I was switching it to html instead of xhtml
15:33 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: my new ISP blocks port 80, so browsers need to hit a proxy
15:33 <wrtlprnft> WTF!
15:33 <wrtlprnft> and why exactly do you use such a sucky ISP?
15:34 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: it's still invalid, i just thought that was the reason
15:34 <wrtlprnft> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="/style/ie.css" />
15:34 <wrtlprnft> you can't do that in a html document
15:34 <noob7> does anyone know what happened to that guy that was on housearrest and had a court hearing yesterday?
15:34 <wrtlprnft> a tag like <br /> in HTML actually closes with the /
15:35 <wrtlprnft> so what it really sees is a <br> tag followed by a >
15:35 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: no real choice
15:35 <wrtlprnft> <p><br/<br/<br/ is perfectly valid html
15:35 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: w3c supports serving XHTML as text/html
15:35 <wrtlprnft> one of the reasons why html sucks
15:36 <wrtlprnft> noob7: not me
15:36 <wrtlprnft> was that /dev/null?
15:36 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: I would love it if you wanted to pay the $45 ports-80-and-25 extortion fee ;)
15:37 <wrtlprnft> wtf? you can get quite a good internet connection for that
15:37 <luke-jr_> indeed, the 7 mbit connection itself is $42/mo
15:38 <luke-jr_> for less than that $45/mo more, I could upgrade to 12mbit
15:38 <wrtlprnft> 7mbit up or down?
15:38 <luke-jr_> down
15:39 <wrtlprnft> how much up?
15:39 <luke-jr_> at most 1mbit
15:40 <wrtlprnft> well, i have 16mbit down, .8mbit up, almost no restricted ports, for 40€
15:41 <luke-jr_> ;.;
15:41 <wrtlprnft> almost=all privileged ports work, just some ports that are known to be used by trojans don't
15:41 * luke-jr_ resists urge to be jealous
15:41 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
15:41 <armabot> Vanhayes: This data is 33 seconds old; Wild West =Capture The Flag= (11/12), Crazy Tronners Bugfarm Clonewith Ladders (7/16), Norm's Place (6/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (4/14), The YELLOW Submarine (3/16), SPACEZONE III (3/15), ¬| D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (2/16), Chico's Brake Boost Styball (2/8), Wild West =Fortress Shootout= (1/12), SPACEZONE III TEAM PLAY (1/15), Wildcat (1 more message)
15:42 <Vanhayes> hmm, whats Crazy Tronners Bugfarm Clonewith Ladders?
15:43 <Lucifer_arma> can't do that in an html document? !?
15:44 <Lucifer_arma> always could before...
15:44 <wrtlprnft> do what? be jealous?
15:44 <wrtlprnft> note that luke-jr_ is talking, maybe you silenced him
15:44 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: Apple's SSH does SRV DNS :)
15:45 <wrtlprnft> Stevie Ray Vaughan?
15:45 <wrtlprnft> Socialist Republic of Vietnam?
15:45 <wrtlprnft> Simian retrovirus?
15:45 <luke-jr_> ...
15:45 <wrtlprnft> Social role valorization?
15:46 <wrtlprnft> Submarine rescue vessel?
15:46 <wrtlprnft> #cyborg SRV
15:46 <armabot> wrtlprnft: S.R.V.: Synthetic Robotic Variant
15:46 <luke-jr_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SRV_record
15:47 <wrtlprnft> well, my sshd doesn't
15:47 <luke-jr_> it's a client side thing
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16:38 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
16:38 <armabot> Vanhayes: This data is 4 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (10/14), Wild West =Capture The Flag= (9/12), SPACEZONE III (7/15), Fortress Café (7/32), Norm's Place (7/12), Tigers Network Speed Blast (6/16), ¬| D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (5/16), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (4/12), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (3/12), victory is mine! (3/16), (2 more messages)
16:38 <Vanhayes> #tea
16:38 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (7/32): Abrysztomytonom, Goku, HAVLIK, IL, iPwn, Norman, Oرز
16:41 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@ip-62-235-214-135.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #armagetron
16:41 <MrBougo> hiho
16:42 <Vanhayes> hey
16:43 <MrBougo> im using my pc without any mouse
16:43 <MrBougo> it feels crazy
16:43 <MrBougo> shot
16:44 <MrBougo> shot
16:44 <MrBougo> how do you click a link
16:45 <MrBougo> oh, F7
16:56 <MrBougo> aw my legs
16:56 <MrBougo> walked too much
16:56 <MrBougo> with boxes full of frozen fries
17:01 <Vanhayes> heh, I had to hitch hike 400 km in rope sandals with my feet all cut up yesterday
17:02 <Vanhayes> my feet are completly wrote off today
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17:38 <MrBougo> wtf
17:38 <MrBougo> Vanhayes: lol
17:38 <MrBougo> poor you
17:43 <Lucifer_arma> ack
17:43 <Lucifer_arma> did you get to Eroticism or whatever it was called? Emofest?
17:43 <Lucifer_arma> something with an E...
17:44 <MrBougo> wtf?
17:44 <MrBougo> there are so much thingzs with E
17:44 <Lucifer_arma> I was asking vanhayes
17:44 <MrBougo> E-mail
17:44 <MrBougo> E-psy
17:45 <Lucifer_arma> E-shut the fuck up?
17:45 <MrBougo> E-okay
17:45 <Vanhayes> evolve
17:45 <MrBougo> lol
17:45 <Lucifer_arma> no, that's A-okay
17:45 <luke-jr_> lies!
17:45 <MrBougo> what's A-okay?
17:45 <MrBougo> no lcue
17:45 <MrBougo> no clue either
17:45 <Vanhayes> and I doubt even one emo wopuld have been there
17:45 <Lucifer_arma> oh, right, they would have said "Evolve? Waaaaa, I'm going to naturally select myself!"
17:45 <MrBougo> huh
17:46 <Lucifer_arma> (because natural selection decides who dies, not who lives, get it?)
17:46 <MrBougo> got it :/
17:46 <Lucifer_arma> sad state of affairs when natural selection has to be explained, but Jesus can walk on water is taken for a well-documented fact with lots of witnesses
17:46 * luke-jr_ naturally selects Lucifer_arma
17:46 <Vanhayes> lots of E-tards and Cid feinds there though, crazy 3 days
17:47 * Lucifer_arma watches his karma run over luke's dogma
17:47 <luke-jr_> the fact that Lucifer_arma is still here disproves evolution!
17:47 <MrBougo> jesus can walk on water because he took that gene his dad got from a mutation
17:47 <luke-jr_> :D
17:47 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_: not at all, I'm a survivor. :)
17:47 <MrBougo> he was selected because he could escape the predators
17:48 <Lucifer_arma> he was seleccted because he was an asshat. Think about it, he didn't have any kids, and he died not of old age.
17:48 <Lucifer_arma> clearly he was naturally selected OUT of the gene pool (which is how it works, goddammit!)
17:48 <MrBougo> he didnt have any kids> too bad, because if he did, we would all be walkin on water
17:48 <Lucifer_arma> if his genes were worth half a fuck, he would have survived long enough to sire a child, which sadly means that luke's genes are worth half a fuck
17:49 <Lucifer_arma> nah, his kids would have been asshats too
17:49 <MrBougo> maybe there wasnt water when he ried to escape
17:49 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: you haven't seen the research on Sang Real then?
17:49 <GodTodd> ;)
17:49 <MrBougo> asshats who could walk on water
17:49 <Vanhayes> asshats float
17:49 <MrBougo> i'd give all my smartness to be able to walk on water
17:49 <Lucifer_arma> that's true, they are full of hot air
17:49 <GodTodd> scuttlebutt is that jesus had a kid with mary
17:49 <Lucifer_arma> why? I'd use my smartness to build a boat
17:49 <GodTodd> the whore mary that is
17:49 <epsy> O_o
17:49 <GodTodd> :)
17:49 <Lucifer_arma> so, I guess you already gave at the door, eh?
17:49 <MrBougo> and i'd fuck your boat
17:49 <MrBougo> i'll take a cycle
17:50 <Lucifer_arma> over the water?
17:50 <MrBougo> and it will be ecological
17:50 <MrBougo> I'D GIVE IT MY FUCKING GENES
17:50 <MrBougo> could have a kid with a cycle
17:50 <MrBougo> so he would walk on water
17:50 <Lucifer_arma> a cycle built with modern alloys and oiled with middle-eastern oil is more ecological than a rowboat built out of wood?
17:50 <epsy> #last --with BTT
17:50 <armabot> epsy: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 3190 messages.
17:50 <z-man-work> Just pour lots of corn starch into the lake and run like hell :)
17:50 <MrBougo> IT IS
17:50 <epsy> stupid armabot
17:51 <MrBougo> z-man-work: nice idea
17:51 <epsy> z-man-work, is the name bugfarm ©'d ?
17:51 <MrBougo> but what about the sea?
17:51 <z-man-work> more corn starch.
17:51 <MrBougo> hehe
17:51 <z-man-work> epsy: no, names can't be copyrighted.
17:51 <luke-jr_> you can't © a name, dummy
17:51 <MrBougo> or fecula
17:51 <Lucifer_arma> that doesn't mean you should try to pass yourself off as bugfarm, though
17:52 <MrBougo> fecula + water is damn funny
17:52 <epsy> ® or TM, whatever
17:52 <Lucifer_arma> people tend to get very angry when you do it and your server sucks ass
17:52 <epsy> z-man-work, can i use it for random shit until it's testing ?
17:52 <epsy> #last --with ORT
17:52 <armabot> epsy: [17:53:13] <Lucifer_arma> if his genes were worth half a fuck, he would have survived long enough to sire a child, which sadly means that luke's genes are worth half a fuck
17:52 <z-man-work> Sure, but don't complain to me if people complain to you.
17:52 <epsy> #realchatlogs
17:52 <armabot> epsy: http://master3.armagetronad.net/armalogs/
17:52 <epsy> lol
17:53 <Lucifer_arma> you could do us a service by dissassociating the name with some particular style of play and associating it with "testing a server"
17:53 <MrBougo> epsy wants to know if he can use it for his new shoes trademark
17:53 <epsy> excactle
17:53 <MrBougo> "Epsy-Bugfarm Moon Boots"
17:53 <z-man-work> I thought he wanted to open a motel.
17:53 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: worth at least 2 of thme :)
17:53 <Lucifer_arma> a roach motel?
17:53 <MrBougo> Bugfarm Wotel
17:53 <MrBougo> awesome
17:54 <MrBougo> M*
17:54 <MrBougo> can be a Wotel too
17:54 <MrBougo> what's a Wotel
17:54 <Lucifer_arma> I wotel
17:54 <Lucifer_arma> you'll have to figure it out for yourself
17:54 * GodTodd notes that luke-jr_'s genes don't want to be associated with his name, however, since he only has girls ;)
17:54 * luke-jr_ sets up a "Bugfarm Hosting" brand
17:55 * Lucifer_arma quietly notes that his kids might be dumb enough to want the association, but will be forced by their sexist father to change their names when they marry some dude 20 years their senior
17:55 <luke-jr_> GodTodd: David is not a girl
17:55 <MrBougo> wot the el
17:55 <MrBougo> http://wotel.dk/
17:55 <Lucifer_arma> (where "his" refers to luke!)
17:55 <GodTodd> luke-jr_: depends...if it's your kid, it probably is :)
17:56 <z-man-work> XML-methodologies ????
17:56 <luke-jr_> GodTodd: I wasn't asking a question
17:56 <GodTodd> luke-jr_: good because i wasn't answering one
17:56 <luke-jr_> GodTodd: then stfu
17:56 <GodTodd> luke-jr_: no :)
17:56 <MrBougo> (where "his" refers to luke!) => haha
17:56 <GodTodd> luke-jr_: good comeback, btw
17:57 <Lucifer_arma> what was it that emo kid used to have on his avatar?
17:57 <Lucifer_arma> "How about a nice cup of shut the fuck up?"
17:57 <z-man-work> Ang?
17:57 <MrBougo> Aang?
17:57 <z-man-work> Ah, no, Skullflame!
17:57 <MrBougo> sounds better than Bonecandle
17:57 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, him :)
17:58 <z-man-work> I found that especially funny since he was the noisiest poster at that time :)
17:58 <Lucifer_arma> with the picture that went with it, I always heard the old Disney mockumentary voice read it to me
17:58 <Lucifer_arma> well, he was new. New guys always fire up a whole ton of threads. :)
17:58 <MrBougo> thats boring, heh
17:59 <MrBougo> you feel like you have to read them all
17:59 <Lucifer_arma> he's still the only emo we're not allowed to hate, since he stayed playing the game in local gme for months before he finally figured out how to get it to play network game
17:59 <z-man-work> DONT REMIND ME OF THAT
17:59 <Lucifer_arma> except, now that I think of it, that pattern of behavior fits right in with emo and self-injury
18:00 <z-man-work> that must have been the most gruesome troubleshooting session ever.
18:00 <Lucifer_arma> well, my youngest is now 4, why is it that *I* feel a year older?
18:01 <luke-jr_> because a year for him is also a year for you?
18:01 <Lucifer_arma> hey, if it makes you feel any better, I just spent the last 10 weeks showing kids that Mac OS X works more or less the same as windows, except that to turn it off, you press the Power button
18:01 <GodTodd> because you're a year older than when he was "now 3"?
18:01 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_: not at all. Don't you know anything about relativity? To him, a year is an eternity, but to me, it's just a year.
18:01 <z-man-work> My wife always uses the menu for that, because the power button is so inpolite :)
18:02 <Lucifer_arma> haha
18:02 <epsy> heh
18:02 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: to be fair, you turn off Windows with the power button as well
18:02 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_: no you don't, you press "Start"
18:02 <Lucifer_arma> to quit, you press "Start"
18:02 <luke-jr_> only dumb people do :)
18:02 <Lucifer_arma> YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING ELSE!
18:03 <luke-jr_> *I* would just press the power button
18:03 <Lucifer_arma> how is he getting through my ignore filter, anyway?
18:03 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_: not if you knew how unstable windows filesystems were
18:03 <Lucifer_arma> they're like reiserfs, but weren't made by murderers
18:03 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: pushing the power button tells Windows to shutdown
18:03 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: sure you can....cut the power to any computer running any OS and it will shut down....now you'll eventually fuck a windows box over doing that....but you can :)
18:04 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_: in case you're wndering, that's really only if the bios supports it
18:04 <Lucifer_arma> if it doesn't, then windows doesn't know when it's pressed
18:04 <luke-jr_> cleanly, even
18:04 <luke-jr_> ok, yeah, but Macs can't do it without hardware support either
18:04 <Lucifer_arma> I've got two computers whose bioses don't say anything when you push the button
18:05 <epsy> who knows if windows filesystems weren't written by murdrers...who knows
18:05 <Lucifer_arma> true, but since Macs are an evil proprietary hardware platform, they all have the necessary support
18:05 <luke-jr_> epsy: true
18:06 <Lucifer_arma> epsy: to answer your question directly, I'm sure the people who wrote the filesystems know whether or not they killed anybody
18:06 <epsy> URGH SOMEONE IS KILLING ME
18:06 <MrBougo> with windows you can set up the power button
18:06 <MrBougo> to stand by, shut down, shut up
18:06 <MrBougo> what else
18:06 <MrBougo> "Ask me what to do"
18:06 <MrBougo> and "Do nothing"
18:06 <epsy> with a screwdriver you can set out the power button
18:07 <MrBougo> do nothing, definitely
18:07 <MrBougo> it's so easy to press that button with your knee
18:07 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'll be honest, on the rare occasion I have a windows box (tore my last one down already!), I usually turn it off by unplugging it
18:07 <MrBougo> i hate opening the cd drive with my knee
18:07 <MrBougo> hehe Lucifer_arma :p
18:07 <MrBougo> makes you feel good i guess
18:07 <epsy> you mean it's easy to open your knie by pressing on that button
18:08 <z-man-work> Take that, Bill!
18:08 <epsy> *ee
18:08 <Lucifer_arma> well, actually, it was because the power switch on the last one was broken and that was the only way to turn it off
18:08 <luke-jr_> me too, mainly because last I checked the dumb crap never shuts down right anyway
18:08 <MrBougo> epsy: im not an emo, i dont put razor blades on my "open the cd drive" buttons
18:08 <Lucifer_arma> but I soldered it up a few days back and now it works fine again. It's running my ltsp client
18:09 <MrBougo> windows is funny
18:09 <MrBougo> funny crap
18:09 <epsy> funny is windows
18:09 <Lucifer_arma> windows is like making love to my mother-in-law
18:09 <GodTodd> that you would even know how to make that comparison is scary
18:09 <GodTodd> :)
18:10 <Lucifer_arma> it's a big bloated mess that insults you whenever you get near and , er, I'm getting sick, nvm
18:10 <luke-jr_> ...................
18:10 <Lucifer_arma> ok, windows is like making love to luke-jr
18:10 <Lucifer_arma> do I need to finish that?
18:10 <GodTodd> now that's something we all know :)
18:10 <GodTodd> haha
18:10 * epsy feel Lucifer_arma sending a window filesystem writer to Lucifer_arma
18:10 <GodTodd> luke-jr_ is a slut :)
18:10 <epsy> * luke-jr_
18:11 * Lucifer_arma sends epsy a French-English dictionary
18:11 <MrBougo> yep, finish it Lucifer_arma
18:11 * Lucifer_arma sends MrBougo a case of Some Fucking Common Sense
18:11 <epsy> *ouch* in my face
18:11 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I gotta go get these rascals to do something besides stuff balloons up their shirt and complain that they ate too much
18:12 <Lucifer_arma> (you can tell my mother-iin-law was here recently when my kids pretend to be fat)
18:12 <MrBougo> haha
18:13 * GodTodd thought you were talking about physics students for a minute there :)
18:13 * epsy looks around
18:13 * MrBougo is bored
18:13 * MrBougo will only use /me to talk
18:13 * GodTodd is routed.
18:14 * MrBougo asks GodTodd what he means
18:14 * epsy thinks human means nothing
18:14 * GodTodd refers MrBougo to carpentry lingo
18:14 * MrBougo corrects his previous message, "about what"
18:14 * MrBougo wonders what carpentry lingo is
18:14 * MrBougo googles it
18:14 * epsy slaps MrBougo
18:15 * GodTodd notes it is language used by carpenters
18:15 * MrBougo knows what GodTodd meant
18:15 * epsy doesn't care
18:15 * MrBougo still doesnt know what "routed" means in caprentry lingo, though
18:15 * GodTodd wonders if MrBougo was just trying to act like luke-jr_ then ;)
18:15 * MrBougo doesnt care
18:16 * MrBougo isnt luke-jr_
18:16 * GodTodd notes it means essentially "processed by a router"
18:16 <z-man-work> Gaa, epsy pinged me!
18:16 * MrBougo really wonders how he's gonna send f*ing commands to armabot
18:16 * MrBougo looks at z-man-work-the-cheater
18:16 * epsy pinged the whole channel
18:17 * MrBougo thinks that he should act like us
18:17 * epsy thinks MrBougo should stop thinking with his mounth open
18:17 * GodTodd has sex with everyone in the room...twice
18:17 * MrBougo can ping z-man-work too, epsy isnt the only one able to do it
18:18 * MrBougo reassures everyone, epsy's message with "mouth open" has nothing to do with GodTodd's "sex with everyone in the room"
18:19 * epsy slaps MrBougo with GodTodd's sayings
18:19 * MrBougo laughs
18:19 * wrtlprnft wonders if he should say something that's not a CTCP ACTION just to annoy everyone
18:19 * MrBougo knows that " GodTodd's sayings" arent long enough to reach me
18:19 <Lucifer_arma> haha, I just told my son "When you hear the words 'I ain't drunk, I'm just drink' ' , if your room isn't clean, you're in big trouble!"
18:20 * wrtlprnft thinks Lucifer_arma spoils the fun
18:20 * MrBougo thinks so too
18:20 * epsy suggest everyone here to ctcp epsy him
18:20 <Lucifer_arma> /me thinks spoiled fun smells good
18:20 <MrBougo> bah
18:20 <MrBougo> 20 /me in a row
18:20 <MrBougo> good enough
18:21 * epsy thinks you are an idiot, MrBougo
18:22 <digitx> ^^
18:22 * digitx thinks you are an idiot, epsy
18:22 <digitx> :D
18:22 * Lucifer_arma sings "I can see what you saw through my eyes"
18:22 * epsy sends ctcp answers to MrBougo even if he didn't ctcp'd me
18:23 <MrBougo> :/
18:23 <MrBougo> youre proud of your message, epsy
18:23 <MrBougo> you send it everywhere
18:23 <MrBougo> wee
18:24 * epsy didn't send his message everywhere
18:25 * epsy sneds more
18:25 * epsy stops sending more
18:27 <digitx> eheh
18:27 <digitx> ^^
18:27 <digitx> hi luke
18:27 <digitx> :)
18:27 <digitx> LOL
18:27 <digitx> xD
18:27 <digitx> * CTCP hungary érkezett ettől: luke-jr_ (#armagetron számára)
18:28 * epsy snet an answer to luke
18:28 * epsy suggests to read his last saying with this perl expression applied: s/snet/sent
18:32 [notice(#armagetron)] maybe i should try it like that
18:32 -MrBougo:#armagetron- testy?
18:33 <MrBougo> whats the purpose of this?
18:33 <MrBougo> :/
18:33 <MrBougo> theres one
18:33 <MrBougo> with mode -n you can send notices from the outside
18:33 -MrBougo:#armagetron- testeey
18:34 -epsy:#armagetron- testy tasty
18:34 <MrBougo> toasty
18:34 <MrBougo> munchy toasty
18:34 -epsy:#armagetron- hmm toasty toasty
18:34 <MrBougo> munchy fruity jelly
18:34 <MrBougo> fluffy
18:34 -epsy:#armagetron- ugh
18:34 <MrBougo> err...
18:34 * epsy slaps MrBougo
18:34 <MrBougo> fluffy jelly goes to the trashhy
18:35 * epsy agrees
18:35 * epsy starts the php recursion
18:35 * MrBougo starts scratching his nose
18:35 * MrBougo stop'd
18:35 -epsy:#armagetron- php: hypertext preprocessor: hypertext preprocessor: hypertext preprocessor: hypertext preprocessor: hypertext preprocessor: hypertext preprocessor: hypertext preprocessor: hypertext preprocessor: hypertext preprocessor: hypertext preprocessor: hypertext preprocessor: hypertext preprocessor: hypertext preprocessor: hypertext preprocessor: hypertext preprocessor: hypertext preprocessor: hypertext preprocessor: hypertext preprocessor: hype
18:36 <MrBougo> wee
18:36 * epsy stops the php recursion
18:36 <MrBougo> #more
18:36 <armabot> MrBougo: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more. To do so, call this command with that person's nick.
18:36 <epsy> hi
18:37 * epsy wonders what happens when someone ctcp harr's him
18:38 <MrBougo> nothing
18:38 <epsy> without 's -_-
18:39 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:39 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:39 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:39 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:39 <MrBougo> lol
18:39 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:39 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:39 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:39 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:39 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:39 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:39 <MrBougo> wtf?
18:39 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:39 <epsy> wrtlprnft, stop!!!
18:39 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:39 <MrBougo> roflll
18:39 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:39 <wrtlprnft> stop spamming epsy1
18:39 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:39 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:39 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:39 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:39 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:40 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:40 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:40 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:40 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:40 <MrBougo> haha awesome, wrtlprnft
18:40 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:40 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:40 <epsy> HARR HARR
18:40 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o wrtlprnft] by ChanServ
18:40 <MrBougo> =DDD
18:40 <MrBougo> finish him!
18:40 <MrBougo> ew
18:40 <epsy> FINISH MrBougo !!!
18:40 <@wrtlprnft> too late i guess
18:40 <MrBougo> awww
18:40 <MrBougo> he changed it
18:40 <epsy> phew disabled just in time
18:40 <MrBougo> fuck
18:40 <MrBougo> epsy, /cmd -o yes
18:40 <MrBougo> /exec -o yes
18:41 <MrBougo> i mean
18:41 <epsy> this wont work you know
18:41 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o wrtlprnft] by ChanServ
18:41 <MrBougo> it willz!
18:41 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v epsy] by ChanServ
18:41 <+epsy> i already tried that
18:41 <MrBougo> did you?
18:41 <+epsy> i did
18:41 <MrBougo> try it again? :3
18:41 <+epsy> no i don't want to crash xchat again
18:41 <wrtlprnft> try /exec -o yes | head -n 1000
18:42 <wrtlprnft> HARR HARR
18:42 <+epsy> HARR HARR
18:42 <MrBougo> what's head?
18:42 <MrBougo> #manpage
18:42 <wrtlprnft> #man head
18:42 <MrBougo> #man
18:42 <MrBougo> ah
18:42 <MrBougo> aw
18:42 <armabot> wrtlprnft: head - output the first part of files
18:42 <armabot> MrBougo: (man <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "rss http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/man.php?c=$1&p=@1".
18:43 <wrtlprnft> y
18:43 <wrtlprnft> y
18:43 <wrtlprnft> yes: standard output: Broken pipe
18:43 <wrtlprnft> yes: write error
18:43 <+epsy> a head is what stands on the fellow's shoulders
18:43 <wrtlprnft> lol
18:43 <wrtlprnft> that was with -n2
18:43 <MrBougo> lol wrtl
18:44 * epsy is away
18:45 <MrBougo> you aint
18:45 * epsy will be away
18:46 <MrBougo> :(
18:47 <MrBougo> lol at the new xkcd
18:48 <wrtlprnft> is it there already?
18:49 <wrtlprnft> bah, that's still monday's
18:50 <P4> wtf with you guys with this CTCPs?
18:50 * wrtlprnft is wondering whether anyone will be able to decypher http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=191198#191198
18:51 <P4> looks like cesars code, lol
18:51 <P4> but only looks :P
18:51 <wrtlprnft> it contains a vim tip :D
18:52 <P4> how about ROT26? :)
18:52 <wrtlprnft> nah, caesar's code would have upper/lowercase messed up
18:52 * wrtlprnft is talking in ROT26
18:53 <wrtlprnft> what about ROT6.5?
18:53 <P4> |_ o _|
18:56 <P4> Ktbc Wiia <=- and this? :) it's almost ROT :) (MD5:3e8bad32c14a0c89eb635b3b25ccfedd)
18:58 <P4> do you know what means co in co.uk?
18:59 <wrtlprnft> commercial?
18:59 <wrtlprnft> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Co.uk#Second-level_domains
18:59 <P4> thanks
18:59 <P4> it's same in co.za, right?
18:59 * P4 is reading wiki
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19:03 <wrtlprnft> Well Done
19:03 <wrtlprnft> it starts at some shift and decrements with each letter
19:03 <wrtlprnft> but the md5sum doesn't work out
19:04 <wrtlprnft> it starts at 12, actually
19:05 <wrtlprnft> well, either i got it wrong or your md5sum is f**ed up
19:05 <wrtlprnft> mathias@colin $ echo 'Well Done' | md5sum - ~
19:05 <wrtlprnft> 07e5e00ea6d93c90d3d09e3f4cfe34a7 -
19:05 <wrtlprnft> mathias@colin $ echo -n 'Well Done' | md5sum - ~
19:05 <wrtlprnft> 9b48dc2a1768654a97f87a13a9553418 -
19:06 <P4> hmm
19:07 <wrtlprnft> now solve mine :D
19:07 <P4> yea my MD5sum is different every try ;P
19:07 <P4> ok, just gimmie 10 minutes to smoek
19:08 <wrtlprnft> what did you use? head -n 1 /dev/urandom | md5sum -?
19:09 <P4> lol... i use FraTor... it's an win32 app...
19:09 <P4> brb
19:09 <+epsy> harr bougo left
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19:26 <Lucifer_arma> "I'm sitting in a circle of smiles, why is everyone so fucking happy?"
19:32 <P4> wrtlprnft: where's your riddle? :)
19:43 <wrtlprnft> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=191198#191198
19:43 <wrtlprnft> i warn you, it's not as easy as yours
19:50 <+epsy> :)
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19:54 <+epsy> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=17860&view=newest <-- this got screwed up :/
19:54 <+epsy> in fact the db crashed
19:54 <+epsy> guru3, ping
19:55 <guru3> poing
19:55 <+epsy> ah back up
19:55 <+epsy> *it's back up
19:55 <guru3> ha HA!
19:55 <guru3> thank god it's not directly my problem if mysql dies anyway
19:57 <+epsy> so you're hosting phpBB but not the DB ?
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21:08 <wrtlprnft> i think both are on shared hosting
21:16 <beta_usa> bye
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21:26 <+epsy> i hate getting spamkicked when i don't spam -_-
21:27 * digitx is away (bye)
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21:32 <MrBougo> bye
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22:19 <+epsy> again completely lagged
22:20 <wrtlprnft> .6 secs are ok…
22:20 <+epsy> my ping was like 3k on café like 30 secs ago
22:20 * wrtlprnft never knew that windows displays a guge box that's flashing red and orange on installing
22:21 <+epsy> ?
22:21 * wrtlprnft has been cursing ms for the last few hours
22:21 <wrtlprnft> i'd almost have installed gentoo in that time
22:21 <wrtlprnft> and i'd have ended up with a much more functional system
22:24 <wrtlprnft> err, and i do recognize swearing when i see it, even in french
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Log from 2007-08-08:
--- Day changed Wed Aug 08 2007
00:00 <GodTodd> Willst du geschlecht mit mir haben?
00:03 <Lucifer_arma> um, you do know that wrtlpwned is german, right?
00:03 <GodTodd> yep
00:03 <Lucifer_arma> ko
00:03 <Lucifer_arma> I'm off to school, bbiab
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00:03 <GodTodd> i am too...in about 30
00:04 <GodTodd> heh
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00:34 <noob7> "do you want to have gender with me" GodTodd?
00:34 * noob7 is confused
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01:26 <P4> wrtlprnft: about you code... completly dunno, just like that from ed (http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=191185&sid=df3d12e63f120be7609709f350ab8979#191185), is it same one?
01:26 <P4> ah... he's sleeping
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02:59 <spidey> what the fuck
02:59 <spidey> Mem: 8145020k total, 8123640k used, 21380k free, 46916k buffers
02:59 <spidey> Swap: 12586916k total, 575116k used, 12011800k free, 1502456k cached
02:59 <spidey> they have more swap than i have on 1 drive!
02:59 <Lucifer_arma> who?
02:59 <spidey> it's a vps
02:59 <spidey> even 125g is overkill for a vps-server
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05:13 * digitx is away (bye)
08:05 <GodTodd> hrmm...almost 7 million harry potter books sold in the first 48 hours of release....i don't know if i'm disgusted by this because it's neither an original premise nor character (not to mention the fact i haven't been able to get past the first ten pages without feeling my iq drop) or if it's because i didn't think of it first... :/
08:12 <wrtlprnft> P4|away: ed's code looks like a real language, and no, mine is different
08:12 <wrtlprnft> GodTodd: uh, that's a weird sentence there
08:13 <wrtlprnft> “geschlecht” = if you're male/female, not sexual intercourse
08:14 <GodTodd> wrtlprnft: yeah...but it was the best we could come up with when we were hormonal teenage boys in German class ;)
08:14 <wrtlprnft> :D
08:14 <GodTodd> kind of like: Du siehst wie ein Faultier aus.
08:16 <wrtlprnft> http://www.vet-magazin.com/wissenschaft/meldungen/Wildtiere/Zootiere/faultier-zoo/image_1_high.jpg
08:16 <GodTodd> haha
08:16 <wrtlprnft> there's worse insults than that :D
08:16 <GodTodd> oh..i'm sure there are :)
08:17 <GodTodd> that's another thing...question many years in the making...what's the official german slang that would be the equivalent of "dick" for penis?
08:19 <GodTodd> my german teacher always told us it was Schwanz
08:19 <GodTodd> (yes i know it means tail) :P
08:19 <wrtlprnft> yeah, that would work
08:19 <GodTodd> ok
08:19 <GodTodd> :)
08:20 <GodTodd> one of our favorite insults used to be Du has ein kleine Schwanz.
08:20 <GodTodd> hast*
08:21 <wrtlprnft> * du hast einen kleienen schwanz
08:21 <GodTodd> yeah....suffixes were never my strong point
08:21 <GodTodd> heh
08:22 <GodTodd> i should get back into practice...i really enjoyed learning german
08:22 <wrtlprnft> *kleinen ← argh, i can't even type it myself
08:22 <GodTodd> :)
08:23 <GodTodd> i probably couldn't even remember half the conjugation anymore :/
08:25 <GodTodd> at one time i was in the top 10% of german students in US high schools (not that that's really impressive, but still ;) )
08:25 <wrtlprnft> well, it's an archievement
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10:05 <guru3> ohhhhh shite
10:06 <guru3> shite shite shite
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11:38 <epsy> hi
11:45 <kidanger> hey epsy
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14:16 <epsy> #sd caf
14:16 <armabot> epsy: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “caf” at the moment, sorry.
14:17 <epsy> #onlineservers
14:17 <armabot> epsy: This data is 11 seconds old; Wildcat (8/16), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (8/12), Wild West =Capture The Flag= ~Multi~Mode~ (5/16), ¬| D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (4/16), |FA| Clan Server : Riverworld (4/16), Id Tech Only!!! (2/16), ¬{Durka Durka Land|¬|ITWC|¬{Practice Server|¬ (2/16), Wild West =Fortress Shootout= (2/12), Strawberry Fields (2/16), (1 more message)
14:17 <epsy> #more
14:17 <armabot> epsy: Chico's Brake Boost Styball (2/8)
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15:39 <MrBougo> hiho
15:48 <epsy> hohi
15:51 <epsy> on change d'isp, MrBougo ?
15:51 <MrBougo> ?.??
15:51 <MrBougo> nope
15:51 <MrBougo> chus chez mon père :p
15:51 <MrBougo> chuis
15:51 <epsy> ah
15:52 <MrBougo> yup
15:59 <epsy> uoi de neuf ?
15:59 <epsy> *q
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16:24 <luke-jr> sweet
16:24 <luke-jr> when did we get anaglyph support?
16:24 <epsy> Now Playing: gorillaz - fire coming out of the monkeys head
16:25 <epsy> luke-jr, ehh?
16:25 <luke-jr> epsy: svn trunk's config file changed to suggest it now supports anaglyphs
16:26 * epsy looks over ViewVC
16:27 <luke-jr> epsy: got a link ahndy? :)
16:28 <epsy> no i'm using the links page :p
16:28 <luke-jr> handy*
16:28 <epsy> O_o
16:29 <epsy> hmpf
16:29 <epsy> my connection starts to lag
16:30 <epsy> ah
16:31 <luke-jr> wd wrtlprnft
16:31 <epsy> luke-jr, http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=17861
16:31 <epsy> Lucifer_arma, nice type
16:31 <epsy> *typo
16:31 <epsy> omg omg! my fps got borked :D
16:34 <epsy> but i'm really wondering...who the nerd would have strereo glasses in his home
16:35 <luke-jr> we could buy some :p
16:36 <luke-jr> actually
16:36 <luke-jr> maybefor 0.4 someone should sell packaged copies of Arma
16:36 * epsy looks for the nearest chinese shop
16:36 <epsy> ahahaha
16:36 <luke-jr> including A.S. glasses
16:37 <luke-jr> chinese gives chopsticks, not glasses
16:37 <epsy> you mean, a set of A.S., arma is multiplayer :D
16:37 <epsy> luke-jr, not here
16:37 <luke-jr> ?
16:38 <epsy> not here at paris :P
16:38 <luke-jr> once the greyscale issue is fixed, we should get a nice depth configuration tool :p
16:38 <luke-jr> move the mouse to position your head :p
16:39 <epsy> i heard of a controller based on head's movements
16:39 <luke-jr> ...
16:40 <luke-jr> I used to play Arma with my mouse
16:40 <epsy> i tried too
16:40 <luke-jr> left/right buttons turn, wheel brake
16:40 <epsy> but doubleclicks aren't fast enough :P
16:41 <luke-jr> faster than double keypresses
16:41 <luke-jr> just not doublebinding
16:41 <epsy> damn i hate html frames
16:42 * epsy is trying to link something there
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16:50 <marclizotte> hello
16:50 <marclizotte> anyone know were i can get bootstrap for mac?
16:51 <marclizotte> looking into the sty patch for the first time. kinda iffy on the subject.
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16:52 <epsy> hi
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16:52 <epsy> hi
16:53 <marclizotte> its quarg btw
16:53 <marclizotte> how do i change my name
16:53 <epsy> bootstrap is avaliable on apple's site i think
16:53 <epsy> /nick new nick
16:53 <marclizotte> really? ok thnx
16:53 -!- marclizotte is now known as quarg
16:53 <quarg> aaa thnx
16:54 <epsy> yw
16:54 <quarg> the sty patch isnt a strait forward process for beginers is it? lol
16:55 <epsy> the pig wanted it to be only avaliable to initiateds...don't ask me why
16:56 <luke-jr> quarg: host with me and I do the patching for you ;)
16:56 <noob7> luke hasnt paid rent yet... do him the favour :D
16:56 <luke-jr> I have
16:56 <luke-jr> just not utilities ;)
16:57 <quarg> to be honest i find that there is alot of lag on your servers srry
16:57 <noob7> hehe
16:57 <luke-jr> quarg: Europe?
16:57 <quarg> canada
16:57 <luke-jr> odd
16:57 <quarg> i play izm alot and it seems slow
16:57 <luke-jr> could be settings
16:57 <luke-jr> IIRC they have a weird setup there
16:57 <quarg> unless its done purposly
16:58 <luke-jr> might even be deathmatch mode
16:58 <quarg> what are your your rates?
16:58 <luke-jr> http://lightfoot.dashjr.org
16:58 <quarg> right now i rent a 12 slot awith 12 slot ts for 24 canadian
16:59 <luke-jr> from who? didn't know I had competition
16:59 <luke-jr> 24 CAD currently is 16 slot
16:59 <quarg> i found a host close to me and asked them to look into hosting arma
16:59 <noob7> 16 slot is $24 at luke
16:59 <noob7> yeah meh, beat me
17:00 <quarg> http://www.team-quebec.com/index.html
17:00 <quarg> heres my host
17:00 <quarg> i find 16 players too much in a server
17:01 <quarg> high rubber especially
17:01 <noob7> I can host a 2 slot for free for you :D
17:01 <quarg> and it comes with a teamspeak server
17:01 <quarg> i host 6 6 slot servers at home thnx
17:01 * noob7 snickers
17:01 <epsy> haha
17:02 <quarg> i just need to figure out the sty patch and maprotation
17:02 <luke-jr> quarg: so if they're hosting Arma, why do *you* need to mess with the patch? ;p
17:03 <noob7> :p
17:03 <quarg> because they are hosting high rubber for me
17:03 <quarg> and i want to host ctf from home
17:03 <noob7> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=6361&highlight=sty+patch
17:04 <noob7> reads like: get source, apply patch, build/compile
17:04 <quarg> lol yes ive seen all this already
17:04 <quarg> its the make build part im fuzzy on
17:04 <quarg> im noob to this part
17:05 <epsy> ./configure
17:05 <quarg> looking to learn
17:05 <epsy> make
17:05 <epsy> make install
17:05 <epsy> err
17:05 <epsy> ./configure --no-glout
17:05 <noob7> beaten...
17:05 <epsy> ./configure --disable-glout *
17:05 <epsy> )=
17:05 <epsy> *=
17:05 <epsy> )*=)
17:05 <quarg> ive read the wiki on the subject
17:05 <epsy> DAMN!!
17:05 <quarg> just trying to get the tools together right now
17:05 <epsy> what's going wrong then ?
17:05 <epsy> ah
17:06 <epsy> you don't need more than a compiler to compile a dedicated
17:06 <quarg> like bootstrap and automake thing
17:06 <epsy> ah
17:06 <epsy> what distro ?
17:06 <quarg> i looked on apple..com and searched bootsrtap
17:06 <epsy> ah
17:06 <quarg> they show my pirates of the carribean
17:06 <quarg> cd
17:06 <quarg> :)
17:07 <epsy> you will maybe need to xcode stuff
17:07 <epsy> *the xcode stuff
17:07 <epsy> typo time -_-
17:07 <quarg> i have x11 installed
17:07 <epsy> you wont need it for dedicated arma
17:07 <quarg> i used it for map making in inkscape
17:07 <epsy> i see
17:07 <quarg> o and i got the 2.7 running :)
17:08 <epsy> heh
17:08 <quarg> it was fun to go back in time
17:08 <quarg> see the progress
17:08 <luke-jr> 0.2.7*
17:08 <quarg> cant wait to see a final of 3.0 for mac and the 3.0 mac dedicated
17:08 * noob7 misses 0.2.7 camera :-(
17:08 <epsy> luke-jr, you really think we'ill ever get to 2.0 ?
17:08 <quarg> yes 0.2.7
17:09 <epsy> even to 1.0 ? :P
17:09 <epsy> we'ill be all dead then
17:09 <quarg> 2.0 is old no?
17:09 <noob7> but betas are so web 2.0 epsy dont you know? :p
17:09 <epsy> 2.0 still doesn't exist, dear
17:10 <noob7> web 2.0 ?
17:10 <quarg> but we are counting up in the versions?
17:10 <quarg> o lol i thought tron
17:10 <epsy> ok...we're gonna get to 0.5
17:10 <epsy> i'm speaking of tron
17:11 <luke-jr> current stable is 0.2.8
17:11 <epsy> what then, when we get to 0.5 ? Then we'd go with Lucifer_arma to hell
17:11 <quarg> o is it normal to not have sound in the mac 3.0beta?
17:11 <epsy> speaking of Lucifer_arma sund is buggy in 0.3
17:11 <epsy> *sound
17:11 <luke-jr> current experimental is 0.3
17:11 <luke-jr> when 0.3 is done, it will turn into 0.4 (probably)
17:11 <luke-jr> and then experimental is 0.5
17:11 <luke-jr> which eventually becomes a stable 1.0
17:12 <epsy> yeah i don't think we'ill get into small revisions between 0.3 and 0.4
17:12 <luke-jr> quarg: there is no such thing as 3.0; 0.3.0 does not have sound
17:12 <quarg> yes thats what i meant
17:12 <quarg> srry
17:13 <quarg> ok i thought that it was an error on my comp that was blocking the sound in 0.3.0
17:13 <luke-jr> 0.3.0 has music, but no sound
17:13 <luke-jr> 0.3.1 should have sound again, IIRC
17:13 <epsy> luke-jr, then we knock by EA and get a packages arma with S;A. glasses
17:13 <luke-jr> but Lucifer_arma is taking his time for 0.3.1
17:13 <luke-jr> epsy: EA sucks :)
17:14 <noob7> but the GLASSES!
17:14 <epsy> EA or whatever
17:14 <luke-jr> we can do our own packaging
17:14 <luke-jr> :P
17:14 <epsy> who cares
17:14 <epsy> lol
17:14 <noob7> are you taking registrations for resellers / distributors yet? :p
17:15 <epsy> since when noobs does distribution?
17:15 <noob7> I have my experience in "distributing" "stuff"
17:16 <luke-jr> ...
17:16 <epsy> luke-jr, indeed
17:16 <noob7> :/
17:17 <quarg> epsy they dont seem to have bootstrap at apple.com
17:17 <luke-jr> I'm taking registrations for resellers of my hosting ;)
17:17 <epsy> quarg, search for xcode
17:17 <epsy> luke-jr, ah ?
17:18 <noob7> luke-jr, I'll resell your hosting if you resell mine, deal?
17:18 * epsy runs away
17:18 <epsy> :P
17:18 <luke-jr> I don't have the details worked out yet, but if you're serious, IM me :p
17:18 <noob7> sure, why not...
17:19 <noob7> when I'm back from ireland I'll talk to you about that
17:19 <luke-jr> noob7: do you even have IM? :p
17:19 <noob7> what's IM?
17:19 <luke-jr> instant messaging
17:19 <noob7> *saddowns*
17:19 <noob7> no really?
17:19 <epsy> noob7, you're goin to irland ?
17:19 <noob7> ye on friday
17:19 <epsy> O_o
17:19 <noob7> http://www.ferienhaus-irland.de/Haeuser/Coombe/Coombe.html
17:19 <luke-jr> epsy: he just wants to get drunk
17:20 <luke-jr> :p j/k
17:20 <epsy> XD
17:20 <noob7> that also
17:20 <noob7> most of my american family comes to europe
17:20 <noob7> and we all meet up there int his huge ass mansion
17:20 <epsy> i'm going too in 1 week there...well, at dublin =)
17:20 <epsy> lol!
17:20 <noob7> cool, it's a bit far off from kerry/valentia island tho
17:20 <quarg> ok i seem to have xcode on my sys
17:20 <noob7> luke: 777@jaim.at
17:21 <quarg> ill see what i can do with that thnx epsy
17:21 <epsy> quarg, but....
17:21 <epsy> open a terminal
17:21 <quarg> i have one open
17:21 <epsy> go in the dir where arma's source is
17:22 <epsy> (cd /path/to/arma/)
17:22 <quarg> so i just drag the source foler over the terminla to get the path?
17:22 <epsy> i think so
17:23 <epsy> i should try that some day :P
17:23 <luke-jr> ...
17:23 <epsy> indeed
17:24 <quarg> i use this comand?hello
17:24 <quarg> svn co https://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad armagetronad
17:24 <quarg> in the terminal?
17:24 <epsy> errh
17:24 <quarg> to get the source
17:24 <luke-jr> no
17:24 <epsy> i throught you already downloaded the sources and patched them
17:24 <Lucifer_arma> yes
17:25 <quarg> well thats what the wiki tealls me
17:25 <Lucifer_arma> but, that's the latest in the 0.2.8 branch, which may not smoothly apply a patch
17:25 <quarg> no i havnt patched yet
17:25 <quarg> im at step one
17:25 <quarg> ok
17:25 <epsy> (yet another /shuffle °°teall me)
17:25 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: doesn't he need more for OSX?
17:26 <epsy> maybe he needs subversion...who knows
17:26 <quarg> 1 sec ill go get the source from arma.net
17:28 <quarg> which file format?
17:28 <quarg> tbz2 zip?
17:28 <epsy> tbz2
17:28 <quarg> k
17:29 <quarg> got ti
17:29 <quarg> it*
17:29 <GodTodd> hrmm....my oldest is singing Metallica loudly....and badly :/
17:30 <epsy> ahaha
17:30 <luke-jr> badly is kinda implied by the author
17:30 <GodTodd> luke-jr: stfu :)
17:30 <epsy> quarg, tar xvf blahblah.tar.bz2
17:30 <quarg> yes
17:30 <GodTodd> luke-jr: when i want your opinion, i'll give it to yuo
17:30 <luke-jr> :)
17:30 <GodTodd> you*
17:31 <epsy> (or if you want to be dumb use jxvf instead of xvf)
17:31 <quarg> i have thte source folder
17:31 <quarg> 2.8.2.1
17:31 <epsy> ok
17:31 <epsy> go in it with the terminal
17:32 <quarg> yes
17:32 <quarg> Desktop/armagetronad-0.2.8.2.1 marclizotte$
17:32 <GodTodd> besides...metallica didn't write this particular song
17:32 <epsy> did you donwloaded the patch ?
17:32 <quarg> yes
17:32 <epsy> where it is ?
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17:32 <quarg> desktop
17:33 <epsy> is it the right one(aka the one for stable 0.2.8.1) ?
17:33 <quarg> pigsty-061021
17:33 <epsy> hmm
17:33 <epsy> where did you downloaded it ?
17:33 <kidanger> hi
17:33 <kidanger> hey quarg
17:33 <quarg> hey xain
17:34 <quarg> wiki linked me
17:34 <luke-jr> epsy: you assue OSX suppo:rts bzip2 extensions on tar
17:34 <quarg> http://forums.armagetronad.net/download.php?id=5691
17:34 <epsy> luke-jr, ... :)
17:34 <epsy> quarg, what topic ?
17:35 <quarg> thats the link in the wiki to the patch
17:35 <quarg> ctf server in the code hacks section
17:35 <epsy> ah
17:35 <quarg> i dont know if the author linkd the right on ;)
17:36 <epsy> i see
17:36 * epsy looks for a better link
17:36 <kidanger> ( pk vous parlez pas français ? (ok je me tais ) )
17:36 <quarg> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=6361&highlight=sty+patch
17:36 <quarg> here6
17:37 <quarg> but there was some discussion on wiht was the final and best version to use
17:37 <epsy> ok that's the right one
17:37 <epsy> well
17:37 <epsy> mostly
17:38 <quarg> ok
17:39 <quarg> to aply the patch?
17:39 <epsy> go in the source dir
17:39 <epsy> then
17:40 <epsy> patch -p0 </path/to/the/patch
17:40 <kidanger> epsy: Est ce que "installer" le pig sty patch suffi pour faire un HTF server ?
17:40 <epsy> (the « < » isn't a typo)
17:40 <quarg> ok
17:40 <epsy> kidanger, HTF est dans le pig sty oui
17:40 <quarg> 1 sec
17:41 <epsy> quarg, then check if there's no errors
17:41 <kidanger> et donc comment on faire un "autorespawn" ?
17:41 <quarg> waht would i be looking for ?
17:41 <quarg> in the terminla?
17:41 <epsy> kidanger, RESPAWN_TIME
17:41 <kidanger> #serverinfo !delire
17:41 <armabot> kidanger: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “!delire” at the moment, sorry.
17:42 <epsy> kidanger, j'ai une config pour htf quelquepart
17:42 <epsy> 2 secondes
17:42 <kidanger> Commande inconnu ;(
17:42 <epsy> quarg, when you use the patch command, there's an output
17:42 <epsy> look if there's no error
17:42 <quarg> ok
17:42 <epsy> kidanger, hein??
17:43 <quarg> space after the <
17:43 <quarg> ?
17:43 <epsy> at your choice :)
17:44 <quarg> hunk #12 failed at 4337
17:44 <epsy> awwww
17:44 <quarg> this is an error?
17:44 <epsy> it is
17:44 <kidanger> [0] Command RESPAWN_TIME unknown.
17:44 <epsy> quarg, is it the only one ?
17:44 <quarg> Hunk #12 FAILED at 4337.
17:44 <quarg> Hunk #13 FAILED at 4352.
17:44 <quarg> Hunk #14 FAILED at 4489.
17:44 <quarg> Hunk #15 FAILED at 4848.
17:44 <quarg> Hunk #16 FAILED at 4972.
17:44 <quarg> Hunk #17 FAILED at 4990.
17:44 <quarg> Hunk #18 FAILED at 5161.
17:45 <quarg> Hunk #19 FAILED at 5589.
17:45 <kidanger> hooo
17:45 <epsy> jeez
17:45 <quarg> and a few others
17:45 <epsy> then you'ill have to apply them manually
17:45 <epsy> quarg, is there at least one which worked ?
17:46 <quarg> 30 or so
17:46 <epsy> kidanger, t'as pas le bon patch alors :p
17:46 <luke-jr> btw
17:46 <kidanger> :{
17:46 <luke-jr> the linked patch is obsolete
17:46 <luke-jr> try pigsty-061021-ljr3.patch
17:46 <kidanger> quel est le bon :( ?
17:46 <quarg> lol geez thnx for telling me ow
17:46 <epsy> it applies tio 0.2.8.2 i seen
17:47 <epsy> t'as lequel ?
17:47 <quarg> luke thats the one i have
17:47 <luke-jr> use 0.2.8 svn
17:47 <kidanger> je croit le 061015
17:47 <epsy> kidanger, 2 secondes j'ajuste un peu la config et que je mette à jour mon repo perso
17:48 <quarg> luke the 0.2.8 svn is in the beta section?
17:48 <luke-jr> quarg: no, it's that 'svn co' comman
17:48 <quarg> k
17:49 <quarg> but this command doesnt dl anyting? it just writes cod ein the treminal
17:50 <quarg> does the prepatched work?
17:50 <luke-jr> it does dl everything
17:50 <epsy> i could be giving you a prepatched
17:51 <quarg> well theres a liink in the wiki for a prepatched version
17:51 <epsy> but my version of arma doesn't have admin login, it doesn't have spam protection either
17:51 <quarg> http://flynns.servegame.org/armagetronad-0.2.8_svn03212007.pigsty.tar.gz
17:51 <epsy> and the admin's name is changed :}
17:51 <kidanger> lol
17:53 <epsy> kidanger, http://pastebin.ca/650002
17:54 <epsy> tu peux garder le joli help_message au passage :}
17:54 <epsy> quarg, no clue
17:55 <epsy> luke-jr, remove the forum moving stuff from the topic ?
17:55 <kidanger> ok merci
17:55 <kidanger> je doit recompiller arma ???
17:55 <luke-jr> epsy: wtf?
17:55 <epsy> ac le patch appliqué oui
17:56 <kidanger> sh*it !!
17:56 <epsy> luke-jr, « Forums Back Online -> But you may have to wait for DNS to update »
17:56 <epsy> in the topic's title
17:56 <luke-jr> why
17:57 <kidanger> I am out !
17:57 <kidanger> cu epsy
17:57 <kidanger> cu quarg
17:57 <epsy> because it's obsolete ? :P
17:57 <epsy> cu kidanger
17:57 <kidanger> bye all
17:57 <luke-jr> is it?
17:57 <quarg> salut mon ami
17:57 <epsy> 4 days it's done
17:57 -!- kidanger [n=kidanger@37.154.98-84.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
17:57 <luke-jr> okok
17:57 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o luke-jr] by ChanServ
17:57 <epsy> hehe
17:58 -!- luke-jr changed the topic of #armagetron to: Latest Version: 0.2.8.2.1 | http://www.armagetronad.net/ | http://electricpotential.net/ircstats/armagetron.html | Gentoo? layman -ka armagetron | http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=20070407 | AFL discussion is in #afl | pastebin: http://pastebin.ca/
17:58 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o luke-jr] by luke-jr
17:58 <epsy> ty ^^
17:58 <luke-jr> hehe, that comic is always appropriate :)
17:59 <epsy> true that
17:59 <quarg> luke were does this command send te sourcer? (svn co https://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad armagetronad)
18:00 <GodTodd> written by a heathen ;)
18:00 <epsy> ahahha i think i have a reseller for you luke
18:00 <luke-jr> quarg: the 3rd argument is the target directory
18:00 <luke-jr> epsy: ...
18:01 <epsy> luke-jr, hyphy :P
18:01 <luke-jr> after he pays me back + interest :)
18:01 <quarg> do i put in permanently or temp?
18:02 <luke-jr> epsy: and maybe not even then, as I hear the FBI wants him
18:02 <luke-jr> :)
18:02 <epsy> :)
18:05 <quarg> luke is there an other way to get the source ?
18:05 <luke-jr> not svn
18:05 <quarg> im not sure how this workes with the command
18:05 <quarg> i cant seem to find it on my comp after i put in the command
18:06 <quarg> it says checked tou revision 7320
18:06 <luke-jr> then you get lost WAY too easily
18:06 <quarg> tell me about it
18:06 <quarg> i am in no way experienced in this process
18:07 <quarg> but i am looking to learn
18:07 <GodTodd> the directory you were in at the tim eof running the command should now have an armagetronad directory
18:07 <GodTodd> everything in the rev is in there
18:07 <luke-jr> wow
18:07 <luke-jr> GodTodd has a clue
18:08 <GodTodd> fuck you, sparky :)
18:08 <GodTodd> i have more clues than you could ever dream of having
18:08 <luke-jr> perhaps
18:08 <GodTodd> definitely
18:08 <GodTodd> not perhaps
18:08 <luke-jr> but you still lack the clues I have
18:08 <GodTodd> i don't want faulty clues :)
18:08 <GodTodd> so you can keep yours :)
18:09 <quarg> ok i have found said folder
18:10 <GodTodd> i've installed and run more versions of software than you even know exist, luke-jr
18:10 <quarg> is this a cockfight?
18:10 <luke-jr> GodTodd: now that, I highly doubbt
18:10 <quarg> thnx godtodd
18:10 <GodTodd> np quarg :)
18:10 <GodTodd> sometimes people are helpful here...just not usually luke-jr :)
18:11 <quarg> hehe
18:11 <GodTodd> luke-jr: doubt all you want, it's still true :)
18:12 <luke-jr> oor so you assert
18:12 <GodTodd> that i do
18:13 <luke-jr> despite having no idea how much stuff I've done
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18:13 <GodTodd> that doesn't matter...i know what stuff *i've* done
18:14 <GodTodd> :)
18:14 <luke-jr> can't comparing A with B unless you know both A and B
18:14 <Bougo> false
18:14 <GodTodd> sure i can...catholics do it all the time
18:14 <GodTodd> :)
18:14 <luke-jr> nope
18:14 <GodTodd> yep
18:14 <Bougo> everybody compares to you
18:15 <Bougo> but do they know you?
18:15 <GodTodd> i was installing software and tearing apart computers before you knew you had hands :)
18:15 <luke-jr> I do it faster
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18:15 <quarg> epsy 3 failed with this version
18:15 <GodTodd> bull
18:15 <luke-jr> I just installed another one
18:15 <Legio> epsy
18:15 <luke-jr> so there
18:15 <Legio> ?
18:16 <epsy> hay Legio
18:16 <Legio> salut
18:16 <epsy> =)
18:16 <Legio> afl playoffs
18:16 <Bougo> GodTodd: who are you talkin to
18:16 <Bougo> hiho legio
18:16 <GodTodd> yep...luke-jr definitely fits the definition of sociopath :)
18:16 <Legio> were can i get info on em ?
18:16 <GodTodd> Bougo: luke-jr
18:16 <Bougo> oh
18:16 <epsy> Legio, we're wednesday
18:16 <epsy> ah
18:16 <Bougo> i was using DOS when i was 3
18:16 <Legio> BOUGO YOU REMMEMBER ME!
18:16 <Bougo> i do
18:16 <epsy> err they aren't planned yet
18:16 <Bougo> Legionnaire?
18:16 <Legio> =)
18:16 <Bougo> :)
18:16 <quarg> i was 3 when dos was invented :)
18:16 <Legio> still out for revenge?
18:16 <epsy> Lucifer_arma is working on it
18:16 <Bougo> hehe quarg
18:17 <Bougo> i knew how to cd, to dir
18:17 <Bougo> err
18:17 <Bougo> and
18:17 <GodTodd> i was 3 before computers were ubiquitous
18:17 <Bougo> ew
18:17 <epsy> dir sucked :P
18:17 <Legio> where will info be posted epsy? and when? apparently there this sunday
18:17 <quarg> my first sytem was pon
18:17 <quarg> tpong
18:17 <luke-jr> I used dir on CP/M
18:17 <quarg> my second was commodoer
18:17 <epsy> Legio, hmm this evening maybe
18:17 <Bougo> and i learnt reading lower case letters with dos
18:17 <epsy> on the wiki
18:18 <Legio> oko thx =)
18:18 <Bougo> pressed the upper case on the keyboard and saw the lower case showing on the screen
18:18 <epsy> but i'm sure Lucifer_arma will post some announcement on the forums
18:18 <quarg> i still see green becasue of lotus
18:18 <Legio> which ones?
18:18 <epsy> the official ones
18:18 <Legio> i cba to have a profile on half of them
18:18 <Legio> right.
18:18 <quarg> ok i must be off
18:18 <Legio> i'll use trhe afl one then
18:18 <epsy> cu
18:18 <Legio> ciao
18:18 <Legio> i g2g too
18:18 <epsy> cu too then
18:19 <quarg> thnx epsy for your help i shall try to decifer the rest of this on my own when i have time
18:19 <Legio> ciao guys im off to rugby, speak later epsy
18:19 <Bougo> cya
18:19 <Bougo> have fun
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18:19 <Bougo> how can you have fun playing rugby
18:19 <Legio> i will, late bougo =)
18:19 <Bougo> :p
18:19 <Bougo> cya
18:19 <Bougo> have fun anyway
18:19 <Legio> :X
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18:20 <luke-jr> ok ppl
18:20 <luke-jr> go test my new experimental Hachi server
18:20 <Bougo> hachi?
18:20 <epsy> haschich ?
18:20 <luke-jr> yes, hachi
18:20 <Bougo> hachi par mentiay
18:21 <luke-jr> just test it :P
18:21 <Bougo> only epsy will undeerstand this one
18:21 <epsy> ugh
18:21 <epsy> maybe ph too
18:22 <Bougo> where the hell is it
18:22 <epsy> Firefox ne peut trouver le serveur à l'adresse hachi.dash-jr.org.
18:22 <luke-jr> dunno, it's got TALK_TO_MASTER
18:22 <Bougo> epsy....
18:22 <Bougo> ....
18:22 <luke-jr> hachi.dashjr.org custom connect :p
18:22 <Bougo> aw
18:22 <epsy> aaah
18:22 <Bougo> lol epsy
18:23 <Bougo> watcha thought
18:23 <GodTodd> first computer i ever used was cassette tape drive...and it was state of the art at the time
18:23 <GodTodd> heh
18:23 <epsy> what port ?
18:23 <epsy> LOL
18:23 <luke-jr> default
18:24 <Lucifer_arma> man, my guitar pedal's broke :(
18:25 <Lucifer_arma> looks like it took a fall that broke the power plug
18:25 <Lucifer_arma> so now I have to rip it open and see if I can fix it
18:25 <GodTodd> i just got a pedal a few weeks ago
18:26 <GodTodd> mine runs on a 9v heh
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18:28 <Lucifer_arma> well, I call it a pedal, but it's a boss gt-3
18:28 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.wholenote.com/resources/revmain.asp?i=2489
18:29 <Lucifer_arma> one of those fancy digital processors
18:29 <GodTodd> ah...mine's just a cheapy sustain/distortion pedal :)
18:30 <GodTodd> maybe i'll get a chance to try it out after tomorrow....though i'm thinking i might start in on another novel
18:30 <Lucifer_arma> wouldn't mind having a good distortion pedal, the boss is kind of a pain to get out sometime
18:31 <Lucifer_arma> maybe I can rip the overdrive circuit out of one of my fender amps and make a pedal out of it :)
18:31 <GodTodd> :)
18:32 <Lucifer_arma> that would be nice, actually, the overdrive I love best is in my fender pioneer amp
18:32 <GodTodd> i'm not going to put too much money into the hobby until i actually learn to play a bit :)
18:32 <Lucifer_arma> heh
18:32 <Lucifer_arma> I haven't sank a lot into it over the years, really, surprisingly
18:32 <GodTodd> i'm under $150 :)
18:32 <Lucifer_arma> the guitar was free, it was at the tail end of a series of trades that started with a free guitar anyway
18:32 <Lucifer_arma> I'm not under $150
18:33 <Lucifer_arma> I did $300 worth of brake worth for nick, and he bought the gt-3 for me
18:33 <GodTodd> ahh
18:33 <Lucifer_arma> the pickup was $60, wiring was another $60, some maintenance another $100
18:33 <Lucifer_arma> I've probbly gone over $150 in strings already :)
18:33 <GodTodd> i've bought the guitar (came with the amp and stuff), the pedal, extra strings and picks, a stand...
18:33 <Lucifer_arma> the amp was a gift, but from my wife, which means I paid for it anyway ;) (at the time, anyway)
18:33 <GodTodd> that's pretty much it
18:34 <Lucifer_arma> I built my stand
18:34 <Lucifer_arma> out of scrap pipes at meineike :)
18:34 <GodTodd> i don't have that connection :)
18:34 <Lucifer_arma> I just got a regular stereo amp and speakers from my brother-in-law
18:34 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, there's the fostex fd-4 that I got from ebay
18:34 <GodTodd> so i spent $15 instead
18:35 <Lucifer_arma> the $15 stands wouldn't hold my guitar :/
18:35 <Lucifer_arma> I have the same problem getting a case, which is really annoying
18:35 <Lucifer_arma> but it's an awesome guitar! :/
18:35 <GodTodd> my amp is a crappy little 10 watter that works for my needs for now
18:35 <GodTodd> pretty much it's a practice amp
18:35 <Lucifer_arma> BC Rich (owned by Jackson now) reissued a version of my guitar, so hopefully a case will appear for it, too
18:36 <GodTodd> coffin case wouldn't work?
18:36 <Lucifer_arma> well, when I got the fostex, that meant I could go with regular PA stuff, which is a lot cheaper than dedicated guitar amps, and a lot more flexible
18:36 <Lucifer_arma> no, coffin case is for warlock bodies
18:36 <Lucifer_arma> mine's not a warlock body :)
18:36 <GodTodd> well...yeah, i know that
18:36 <GodTodd> :P
18:36 <Lucifer_arma> it's that damn lightning bolt shape that fucks it over
18:36 <Lucifer_arma> speaking of whiches, this is kind of funny
18:36 <GodTodd> i just have a gig bag for mine
18:37 <GodTodd> don't need a case yet :)
18:37 <Lucifer_arma> when my wife and I were separated a few years back, I was hanging out with this chick
18:37 <Lucifer_arma> she was talking about buying a bass and starting a speed metal band, and I was like "bass player chick with tits like that? hell yeah!"
18:37 <GodTodd> heh
18:37 <Lucifer_arma> so we were talking about what kinds of guitars/basses we liked
18:37 <Bougo> c'est con epsy
18:37 <Bougo> j'ai été kické pour spam
18:37 <epsy> LOL
18:37 <Bougo> je suis revenu et t'es parti
18:37 <Bougo> :/
18:38 <epsy> Excellent.
18:38 <Lucifer_arma> right before this, she had broken up with her boyfriend, and then after my wife and I got back together, she disappeared, so you can draw the conclusion you want
18:38 <epsy> bon spa grav
18:38 <Bougo> xD
18:38 <Bougo> cyas
18:38 <Bougo> bbl
18:38 <Lucifer_arma> so she's telling me she likes the strat body, even if it's a little weird for speed metal
18:38 <epsy> slut
18:38 <Lucifer_arma> she says something like "I don't like those guitars with all the spiky bits, I always worry someone will get their eyes poked out or something"
18:39 <Lucifer_arma> so I said "I don't really like those fender bodies and traded my fender for a guitar with the spiky bits, now I have one shaped like a lightning bolt"
18:39 <Lucifer_arma> few days later she decided she liked those spiky body guitars
18:39 <GodTodd> haha
18:40 <Lucifer_arma> she wound up buying a fender squire bass, and the day after that my wife and I got back together, and I haven't heard from the girl since
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18:41 <GodTodd> heh
18:41 <Lucifer_arma> so no speed metal band for me, which is probably better, my wife would have been insanely jealous of that girl, 'cause she was really hot
18:42 <GodTodd> every band needs a hot bass player chick
18:42 <GodTodd> :)
18:42 <Lucifer_arma> even when I'm the bass player? ;)
18:42 <z-man-work> Stick to geeky hobbies, no risk of making anyone jealous :)
18:42 <Lucifer_arma> I guess then we need a hot singer
18:43 <GodTodd> yeah...if the bass player is a dude then the singer better be hot
18:43 <Lucifer_arma> z-man-work: not when there's a new report coming out every week talking about some guy who left his wife for some AOL chick
18:43 <GodTodd> days of metal bands with a bunch of goofy looking dudes are over :/
18:43 <z-man-work> AOL != geeky
18:43 <Lucifer_arma> haha
18:44 <Lucifer_arma> this was 10 years ago, though, when AOL was one of the easiest ways to get on the net
18:44 <Lucifer_arma> oh hell, she got a bit jealous when I told her there were aactual girls playing arma
18:44 <GodTodd> 10 years ago i was using a direct dial PPP provider
18:44 <Lucifer_arma> there's no escaping jealousy, she's just gotta deal with it
18:45 <z-man-work> I use immunization, works with my wife.
18:45 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: is she jealous that you spend time around hot college chicks? ;)
18:45 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, my wife's supposed to be my singer, but we didn't have an amp, and now we do, but my pedal's broke!
18:45 <z-man-work> There aren't that many hot college chicks in physics here...
18:46 <GodTodd> they teach more than just physics at ACC, though :)
18:46 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: she's really chilled out a lot over the years. It helped that we both learned about the Heatherington Studies in our separate psych classes and she figured out that 90% of her jealousy was because her parents were divorced,
18:46 <Lucifer_arma> not because she was actually jealous
18:46 <Lucifer_arma> z-man-work: there's a lot of hot chicks in physics here
18:47 <GodTodd> texas just has a lot of hot chicks period
18:47 <Lucifer_arma> pick your type, like girls to be chunky and well-endowed? skinny and well-endowed? skinny and not well-endowed?
18:47 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: that's true. :)
18:47 <z-man-work> Bah :/
18:47 <Lucifer_arma> of course, I wouldn't want to objectify women, but we were talking about petty jealousy, you know..... ;)
18:48 <GodTodd> hell...i have to try and avoid my in-laws' more now since karen's cousin is so hot
18:48 <Lucifer_arma> I'd never leave my wife for a woman who's taking physics as an elective
18:48 <GodTodd> heh
18:48 <GodTodd> (don't want too much popping up) ;)
18:49 <Lucifer_arma> haha
18:49 <GodTodd> though i'll probably end up tutoring her in math and possibly english
18:50 <Lucifer_arma> I have to admit, most of the girls in physics here are young enough that they'd make a sexual link in tutoring, even if there isn't really one
18:50 <Lucifer_arma> so they won't ask me for such things
18:50 <GodTodd> my oldest wants her to move in with us...in the back of my mind i thought, well hell, why not? ;)
18:51 <Lucifer_arma> if your wife doesn't care about having another woman in the house you think is hot, then why not?
18:51 <GodTodd> two of the kids in my calc class just had birthdays this week...they turned the big 2-0
18:51 <Lucifer_arma> heh
18:51 <Lucifer_arma> damn kids
18:51 <Lucifer_arma> I think the average age in classes drops sharply in the summer
18:51 <GodTodd> actually...one might have been 19
18:51 <GodTodd> not sure really
18:51 <Lucifer_arma> in the fall we'll hover around 23 again for average ages, but in the summer it's like 19
18:52 <Lucifer_arma> so many kids, man, so many kids
18:52 <GodTodd> yeah...it's all the kids home for the summer
18:52 <GodTodd> these two go to Tech and UNC
18:52 <Lucifer_arma> yep. We've got a lot of baylor kids this time, and the normal allotment of UT kids, of course
18:52 <GodTodd> we have a kid from a&m too
18:53 <Lucifer_arma> heh, speaking of hot chicks. :) Hot chicks go to A&M and learn real shit, while chicks that aren't so hot go to UT and become politicians
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18:53 <GodTodd> haha
18:53 <Lucifer_arma> if I were going to pick a school, I'd have a hard time not letting that observation influence my decision
18:53 <GodTodd> definitely
18:54 <GodTodd> oh, yeah...one dude is from UNT too
18:54 <GodTodd> he's got an F right now
18:54 <GodTodd> his high test score is a 55
18:55 <Lucifer_arma> I think/hope there's a lot of younger chicks right now in Texas figuring out that if Texas men are so dumb and can learn science and engineering, then of course they can
18:56 <GodTodd> haha
18:56 <Lucifer_arma> I guess we'll see what my statics class looks like ;)
18:56 <GodTodd> i'm betting that UTD will have younger/hotter chicks
18:57 <GodTodd> but, yeah...my general ed classes by far have the most hot chicks
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18:58 <GodTodd> there's been a class or two that i only made every class because i wanted to check out the chicks ;)
18:59 <GodTodd> hrmmm...i should run out and do some shopping, i suppose
18:59 <Lucifer_arma> heh
18:59 <GodTodd> don't really want to tho
18:59 <GodTodd> :/
18:59 <Lucifer_arma> my general ed classes have by far had the most annoyingly dumb people, regardless of gender
19:00 <GodTodd> that too
19:00 <Lucifer_arma> sorry, but being hot isn't good enough to grab my attention anymore.
19:00 <Lucifer_arma> that's why hot chicks in physics are soooo hot. :)
19:00 <GodTodd> nah...but if they don't talk then they look good :)
19:00 <tramshed> and im out of jail once again
19:01 <tramshed> can I get a woot.
19:01 <epsy> "woot"
19:01 <GodTodd> toow
19:02 <tramshed> even a dyslexic woot is acceptable
19:02 <GodTodd> ok...owto
19:02 <tramshed> got 45 days on my proabtion revocation, 30 on my contempt of court, and managed to talk the judge into letting me serve it on tether instead of in jail if I passed a drug test
19:02 <tramshed> took em three days to decide tether was ok
19:03 <tramshed> but Im mostly free now
19:03 <GodTodd> get taken down by a bounty hunter?
19:03 <tramshed> nah, turned myself in
19:04 <tramshed> this is from 2002
19:04 <GodTodd> ah
19:04 <tramshed> the warrant is, the original charge is from 99
19:04 <GodTodd> makes a better story if a bounty hunter is involved ;)
19:04 <GodTodd> and maybe some gunplay
19:04 <tramshed> hah
19:05 <GodTodd> "you'll never take me alive, coppers!"
19:05 <epsy> orly?
19:06 <GodTodd> rly
19:06 <epsy> O_o
19:06 <epsy> P_p
19:06 <GodTodd> o_O
19:06 <GodTodd> p_P
19:07 <GodTodd> @8^D)
19:08 <GodTodd> @B^D)
19:08 <epsy> orly?
19:08 <GodTodd> rly
19:08 <epsy> :0
19:09 <GodTodd> :D
19:09 <epsy> =)
19:09 <GodTodd> (=
19:10 <GodTodd> 8=================D~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
19:10 <epsy> Q_q
19:10 <tramshed> This conversation definately took a turn for the worse.
19:11 <GodTodd> oh...that might offend luke-jr...
19:11 <GodTodd> 8=D~~
19:11 <digitx> o_O
19:11 <digitx> -_-
19:11 * epsy wonders if tramshed will keep talking on action
19:11 <digitx> epsy flooder
19:11 <digitx> -.-
19:11 <epsy> GodTodd, the first one or the second one ?
19:11 <epsy> digitx, wanna get more ?
19:11 <tramshed> burnpeckerface
19:12 <digitx> noo
19:12 <digitx> :p
19:12 <GodTodd> the first one would make him feel inadequate...the second one we'll pretend is "normal" so he doesn't feel so bad
19:14 * GodTodd hopes he can get at least a 45 on the calc final tomorrow
19:14 <GodTodd> :/
19:14 <epsy> :\
19:14 <epsy> :\/
19:14 <epsy> #tea
19:14 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (2/32): Monkey, ~|DS|~zion
19:14 <epsy> :\/
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19:16 <digitx> luke-jr, bad
19:25 <Lucifer_arma> man, 4 minutes on a trampoline is a long time
19:45 <Lucifer_arma> I finally figured out what use a loudness button is
19:47 <tramshed> to make it loud?
19:48 <Lucifer_arma> no, see, when you turn it down to a low level to allow conversation to take place or otherwise put it in the background, you lose most of the bass
19:49 <Lucifer_arma> so you hit the loudness button to boost the bass so you can have it at a low level and still hear the bass
19:49 <tramshed> hah
19:50 <tramshed> im waiting for this online chat support person's brain to melt
19:50 <tramshed> I asked them about ipv6 dns control and thier face has been melting off
19:50 <Lucifer_arma> been wondering about that for years, since it always only made the bass overwhelmingly loud
19:50 <tramshed> Sarah Andrews: Do you mind waiting, while I research your issue? Your request may take a couple of minutes.
19:50 <tramshed> that was about 10 minutes ago
19:53 <@luke-jr> if they try to resort to "we don't support that", point out version 6 is over 10 years old, and to not support it by now is ridiculous ;)
19:53 <@luke-jr> (as opposed to version 4 which is ancient)
19:55 * digitx is away (bye)
20:02 <epsy> Lucifer_arma, you can also try to ctcp epsy me
20:06 <Lucifer_arma> august is month 9, right?
20:06 <epsy> 8th actually
20:07 <Lucifer_arma> ah, right, thanks
20:07 <epsy> hmm armagepr0n
20:09 <Lucifer_arma> grrr
20:09 <Lucifer_arma> I need a conversion factor for pounds -> newtons
20:10 <Lucifer_arma> I don't want to convert pounds to kilograms, that's immoral
20:10 <Lucifer_arma> ah, there we go
20:11 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=NDV&q=1+pound+in+newtons&btnG=Search
20:18 * Lucifer_arma has decided to strictly interpret weight as force so he can bitch about how even europeans do dumb things with SI units
20:18 <Lucifer_arma> so there we go, 860 newtons, I'm a friggin' whale
20:20 * Lucifer_arma considers trying to determine acceleration due to gravity at the position where his scale is, but then decides floating point errors on the computer are larger than that error
20:21 <tramshed> dude
20:21 <tramshed> go smoke a joint
20:21 * tramshed sense the ADD in you
20:21 <Lucifer_arma> nah, I'm about to go bounce on that trampoline some more
20:22 <Lucifer_arma> just made a spreadsheet so I can track my weight over the fall semester, when I'm taking a martial arts class, and so I can see if this trampoline really is useful for exercise before the fall starts
20:22 * Lucifer_arma thought obsession with accurate data was more of a trait of obsessive-compulsive disorder than ADD
20:23 <Lucifer_arma> which reminds me, my books need sorting...
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20:23 <Lucifer_arma> I have it giving my weight on mars and the moon, too
20:24 <Lucifer_arma> the only planets I care about right now :)
20:24 <MrBougo> the moon isnt a planet
20:24 <epsy> orly?
20:24 <MrBougo> #seen orly
20:24 <armabot> MrBougo: I have not seen orly.
20:24 <epsy> damn belgians
20:24 <MrBougo> #lastseen orly
20:24 <armabot> MrBougo: CT|orly? has last been seen on Bugfarm Elimination Sumo 1 day 9 hours 31 minutes ago.
20:24 <Lucifer_arma> really? it's big enough to be roughly spherical, and it's cleared it's orbit of all smaller objects...
20:24 <Lucifer_arma> and it goes around a star
20:25 <Lucifer_arma> that means it's a planet!
20:25 <MrBougo> nope
20:25 <epsy> samall objects ? like you ? oh bad example, you aren't a small object
20:25 <MrBougo> because the orbit around the star is kind of irregular
20:25 <Lucifer_arma> I'm not in its orbit
20:25 <MrBougo> you could say that the milky way is a planet
20:25 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, it's cyclone-shaped, isn't it?
20:25 <MrBougo> because it moves around alpha centauri
20:26 <Lucifer_arma> ? since when?
20:26 <MrBougo> oh, its a cyclone then
20:26 <MrBougo> nvm
20:26 <Lucifer_arma> milky way == our galaxy, and alpha centauri is the closest star to us, meaning it's inside the millky way
20:26 <MrBougo> and maybe the milky way rotates
20:26 <Lucifer_arma> or I don't know what I'm talking about
20:26 <MrBougo> all the milky way except alpha centauri is a planet
20:26 <tramshed> brb, seeing if my ipv6 is working
20:26 <Lucifer_arma> our galaxy rotates around its center of mass
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20:26 <epsy> Lucifer_arma, errr...
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20:27 <tramshed> beuatiful
20:27 <Lucifer_arma> nah, milky way isn't spherical :)
20:27 <MrBougo> because everything in the mw moves around a.c. except a.c. itself
20:27 <epsy> nice hostmask
20:27 <tramshed> its my ip
20:27 <MrBougo> Lucifer_arma: thats relative
20:27 <epsy> (i=Tramshed@2002:45dd:e0af:0:0:0:45dd:e0af
20:27 <tramshed> my isp wasnt lying about having native ipv6 support
20:27 <MrBougo> it could move around everything
20:27 <tramshed> its an ip, ping it
20:27 <Lucifer_arma> hey, I didn't make the definition
20:27 <Lucifer_arma> it was made by a very small minority of astronomers at some conference after all the opposition had left
20:27 <epsy> ping: unknown host 2002:45dd:e0af:0:0:0:45dd:e0af
20:27 <epsy> ping: unknown host 2002:45dd:e0af:0:0:0:45dd:e0af
20:28 <tramshed> do you have the ipv6 protocol?
20:28 <epsy> ping: unknown host 0:0:0:45
20:28 <tramshed> if not that would be why
20:28 <epsy> my modem hasn't
20:28 * epsy should upgrade someday
20:28 <MrBougo> Lucifer_arma: anything orbiting around a planet or a star is a satellite
20:28 <Lucifer_arma> besides, astrologers say the Moon is a planet, and they're never wrong
20:28 <tramshed> ah
20:28 <Lucifer_arma> MrBougo: cite? ;)
20:29 <MrBougo> damn wikipedian
20:29 <MrBougo> xD
20:29 <MrBougo> oh hey, this is interesting
20:29 <MrBougo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_definition_of_planet
20:29 <Lucifer_arma> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_definition_of_planet
20:29 <Lucifer_arma> gheh, beat me to it
20:29 <epsy> damn
20:29 <MrBougo> suckers
20:30 <MrBougo> "around the sun"
20:30 <MrBougo> what else
20:30 <MrBougo> so how do we call "planets" that arent in our solar system
20:30 <MrBougo> "spherical objects orbiting a star yipee"
20:31 <MrBougo> http://edition.cnn.com/2006/TECH/space/08/18/moon.planet/
20:31 <MrBougo> hey lol
20:31 <Lucifer_arma> the final vote was taken on the last day of the 10-day event, after many participants had left or were preparing to leave. Of over 2,700 astronomers attending the conference, about 800 were present on the day for the significant resolutions
20:32 <MrBougo> they had prolly something better to do
20:32 <MrBougo> maybe did they do that on some mars-uranus eclipse
20:32 <Lucifer_arma> it's pretty obvious this was railroaded through in a very non-democratic fashion
20:32 <MrBougo> hehe
20:33 <Lucifer_arma> I'm terribly unhappy about it. Scientists aren't supposed to be all political like that, and here we see the machinations of evil politicians defining scientific terms
20:33 <MrBougo> :(
20:33 <MrBougo> some bad guys use science as an excuse
20:33 <Lucifer_arma> so, pluto is still a planet, by my count
20:33 <MrBougo> a dwarf one
20:33 <Lucifer_arma> of course, I'm biased, I met Clyde Tombaugh when I worked at the planetarium named after him, and he was a very nice man :)
20:33 <MrBougo> "dwarf planet", that's still a planet, right
20:33 <epsy> will i ever go on pluto ? if i do...will i care it's a plnet or an asteroid ?
20:34 <MrBougo> nope
20:34 <MrBougo> because you'll be trying to save your life
20:34 <MrBougo> and run away
20:34 <MrBougo> damn pluto monsters
20:34 <MrBougo> THEY ARE EVERYWHERE
20:34 <epsy> so waht the fuck about iot ?
20:34 <MrBougo> iot?
20:34 <MrBougo> idiot?
20:34 <MrBougo> or Io
20:34 <MrBougo> Jupiter's satellite
20:34 * epsy was pressing crtl+a then backspace, but accidentally caught enter
20:35 <MrBougo> rofl
20:35 <Lucifer_arma> according to my daughter, if you go to pluto, you'll be turned into a human popsicle
20:35 <MrBougo> popsicle?
20:35 <Lucifer_arma> popsicle
20:35 <Lucifer_arma> don't tell me you don't have popsicles in belgium?
20:36 <MrBougo> gotta wikipedia that
20:36 <MrBougo> i dont have popsicles in my vocabulary
20:36 <Lucifer_arma> #wikipedia popsicle
20:36 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Search took 0.30 seconds: Popsicle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popsicle>; Popsicle (album) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popsicle_(album)>; Swinging Popsicle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swinging_Popsicle>; The Popsicle EP - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: (2 more messages)
20:36 <MrBougo> i'm pretty sure i know what it is
20:36 <epsy> popsicle
20:36 <MrBougo> wee.. i dont
20:36 <MrBougo> we dont have such stuff in belgium
20:36 <MrBougo> i hate ice pops
20:37 <epsy> gstreamer sucks so munch...
20:37 <MrBougo> munch?
20:37 <MrBougo> Edvard Munch?
20:37 <MrBougo> or munch munch
20:37 <epsy> stupid belgian
20:38 <MrBougo> tahts me
20:38 <epsy> indeed
20:38 <MrBougo> indeed
20:38 <MrBougo> yes
20:38 <epsy> no
20:38 <Lucifer_arma> if epsy and MrBougo sat in a tree, would they exchange a French kiss or a Belgium kiss?
20:38 <MrBougo> both
20:38 <MrBougo> at the same time
20:39 <MrBougo> and why a tree?
20:39 * epsy would have run'd away
20:39 <MrBougo> a bed's better
20:39 <Lucifer_arma> ran, it's "RAN"
20:39 <MrBougo> haha
20:39 <Lucifer_arma> actually, "run" would have been correct in that form
20:39 <MrBougo> stupid french
20:39 <epsy> true that®
20:39 <MrBougo> but run'd
20:39 <MrBougo> I HAV RUNNED
20:39 <MrBougo> OR ELSE I WOULD HAVE DIEN
20:39 <Lucifer_arma> I HAVE THE RUNS!
20:39 <epsy> true that® too
20:40 <MrBougo> runs?
20:40 <MrBougo> i dont get it
20:40 <Lucifer_arma> diarrhea
20:40 <epsy> inded
20:40 <Lucifer_arma> when you're walking down the street and it's dripping to your feet, diarrhea
20:40 <epsy> these typos starts to pimp me off -_-
20:41 <MrBougo> awwww
20:41 <Lucifer_arma> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Diarrhea_Song
20:41 <MrBougo> so thats the runs
20:41 <MrBougo> the hell
20:42 <MrBougo> its a song
20:42 <MrBougo> who the hell would listen to that
20:42 <MrBougo> while eating chocolate ice cream
20:42 <MrBougo> ...
20:42 <MrBougo> i dunno if im gonna click that link or not
20:43 <Lucifer_arma> it's something you sing when you're an american kid
20:43 <MrBougo> so youre an american kid
20:43 <Lucifer_arma> *was
20:43 <Lucifer_arma> now I'm a full-grown american
20:43 <Lucifer_arma> in all its xenophobic glory
20:43 <MrBougo> the hell?
20:43 <MrBougo> ...
20:43 <MrBougo> wtflol
20:43 <Lucifer_arma> #dict xenophobe
20:43 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: No definition for "xenophobe" could be found.
20:43 <MrBougo> i know what it means
20:44 <Lucifer_arma> it's not the same thing as a Xena-phobe
20:44 <MrBougo> and you meant bic maybe
20:44 <MrBougo> #dict xenophobic
20:44 <armabot> MrBougo: wn: xenophobic adj : suffering from xenophobia; having abnormal fear or hatred of the strange or foreign
20:44 <Lucifer_arma> #dict xenophobia
20:44 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: wn and moby-thes responded: wn: xenophobia n : an irrational fear of foreigners or strangers; moby-thes: 86 Moby Thesaurus words for "xenophobia": Anglophobia, Francophobia, Germanophobia, Jim Crow, Jim Crow law, Russophobia, abhorrence, abomination, agoraphobia, alien, anti-Semitism, antipathy, apartheid, aversion, bigotry, black power, black supremacy, chauvinism, class (3 more messages)
20:44 <MrBougo> ok, want to play "who-has-the-longest-reply"
20:44 <MrBougo> #dict go
20:44 <Lucifer_arma> #more
20:44 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: consciousness, class distinction, class hatred, class prejudice, class war, color bar, color line, demonophobia, despitefulness, detestation, discrimination, dislike, division, ethnocentrism, exclusiveness, execration, fascism, foreigner, hate, hatred, insularity, insulation, isolation, know-nothingism, loathing, male chauvinist, malevolence, malice, malignity, minority prejudice, (2 more messages)
20:44 <armabot> MrBougo: wn, foldoc, gcide, and moby-thes responded: gcide: Go \Go\ (g[=o]), obs. p. p. of {Go}. Gone. --Chaucer. [1913 Webster]; gcide: All fours \All` fours"\ [formerly, {All` four"}.] All four legs of a quadruped; or the two legs and two arms of a person. [1913 Webster] {To be}, {go}, or {run}, {on all fours} (Fig.), to be on the same footing; to correspond (with) exactly; to be alike (50 more messages)
20:44 <Lucifer_arma> #more
20:44 <MrBougo> THERE YOU GO
20:44 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: misandry, misanthropy, misogyny, narrowness, odium, out-group, outcast, outsider, parochialism, persona non grata, quarantine, race hatred, race prejudice, race snobbery, racial discrimination, racial segregation, racialism, racism, red-baiting, repugnance, seclusion, segregation, separation, sex discrimination, sexism, snobbishness, social barrier, social discrimination, spite, (1 more message)
20:44 <MrBougo> i could #more and #more
20:45 <Lucifer_arma> shut up frenchie! I'm trying to read about msyelf!
20:45 <Lucifer_arma> #more
20:45 <MrBougo> but it would be boring
20:45 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: spitefulness, stranger, superpatriotism, tightness, ultranationalism, vials of hate, vials of wrath, white power, white supremacy
20:45 <Lucifer_arma> there we go. xenophobia, that's the affliction that has totally ruined the american psyche
20:45 <Lucifer_arma> isn't it, though?
20:45 <MrBougo> ruined
20:45 <MrBougo> thats the word :)
20:45 <Lucifer_arma> We talk about immigration, but people say "They've gotta learn english and become part of our culture"
20:45 * tramshed is listening to... `Snake for Cycle` by found tape on WFMU on Intelligent Design (WFMU - 128k Version - Freeform Radio the Way it Oughta Be!!)
20:46 * MrBougo is now playing: Ferry Corsten presents - Corsten's Countdown 006 (8 August 2007) (D I G I T A L L Y - I M P O R T E D - European Trance, Techno, Hi-NRG... we can't define it!)
20:46 <Lucifer_arma> we talk about peace, and how it can only be accomplished by wiping out brown people
20:46 <MrBougo> :(
20:46 <Lucifer_arma> face it, the more your skin color resembles turd, the more likely you are to be bombed by americans
20:46 <tramshed> haha
20:46 <noob7> that analogy isnt pretty
20:47 <Lucifer_arma> besides, if you call the average american a xenophobe, they have to look it up to figure out what you said
20:47 <Lucifer_arma> so you could call them a stupid xenophobe
20:47 <Lucifer_arma> but then they wouldn't bother looking it up, because they know that stupid is an insult
20:47 <MrBougo> haha
20:47 <MrBougo> but...
20:48 <MrBougo> youre talking about "average americans"
20:48 <MrBougo> they look pretty bad
20:48 <MrBougo> but if we know that there are smart americans too...
20:48 <Lucifer_arma> well medicate above-average americans so that there aren't any
20:48 <MrBougo> if the average is really average... what about these under the average?
20:48 <MrBougo> they've got to be terrible
20:49 <Lucifer_arma> they tend to be very nice people, in my experience, but nobody takes them seriously because the talk like Forrest Gump
20:49 <MrBougo> never seen that film, can't tell
20:52 <@luke-jr> listen to http://www.wnygspiritofny.com/ now
20:59 <MrBougo> what's on?
20:59 <MrBougo> aw i guess im too late
21:00 <epsy> /cycle spam ftw
21:00 <MrBougo> sure
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21:01 <epsy> * RbdPngn met un ban sur *!*n=epsy@*.fbx.proxad.net
21:01 <epsy> * Vous avez été expulsé de #e par RbdPngn (RbdPngn)
21:04 <MrBougo> :(
21:04 <MrBougo> encre?!?!?!
21:04 <MrBougo> encore*
21:07 <epsy> spa grav :P
21:07 <MrBougo> xD
21:07 <MrBougo> t'as qu'à changer le n
21:07 <MrBougo> n=epso
21:07 <epsy> pas con :P
21:07 <MrBougo> il bannera tout proxad
21:08 <MrBougo> puis *!*@* s'il le faut
21:08 <epsy> =)
21:10 <MrBougo> *!@* looks like a censored insult thingy
21:10 <epsy> lol!
21:11 <MrBougo> epsy, you damn *!*@*
21:11 <MrBougo> *!*@* you
21:12 <epsy> sure i am
21:13 <MrBougo> i am to
21:13 <MrBougo> o
21:13 <MrBougo> everybody is
21:13 <MrBougo> :/
21:14 <epsy> *!*@* invaded us
21:14 <epsy> it's not a controlled program anymore!
21:14 <MrBougo> :(
21:15 <MrBougo> its not a program
21:15 <epsy> then why did you let me alive ?
21:16 <MrBougo> huuuh
21:16 <epsy> huuuh indeed
21:17 <MrBougo> ctas
21:17 <MrBougo> cyas*
21:17 <MrBougo> night
21:18 <epsy> bonne nuit
21:18 <epsy> buenno notte
21:18 <MrBougo> wish me good luck
21:18 <epsy> good luck
21:18 <MrBougo> for my day at work
21:18 <epsy> and try
21:18 <MrBougo> ?
21:18 <MrBougo> try what
21:18 <epsy> to install arma there :P
21:18 <MrBougo> cant xD
21:18 <MrBougo> cyas
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21:58 <epsy> #tea
21:58 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (15/32): ${ßGL}$Kriki, Action, cos, CT|orly?, G5, Legionnaire, Luzifer, sleepwalker, Social Suicide, Tîger, ~|CTT|~Spot~, ~|DS|~Slash, ~|DS|~zion, ¦Ö|Lazer, ¦×¥ Legit
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22:56 <noob7> what....the...fuck? http://uk.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUKL0787011420070807
22:57 <guru3> that's awesome
22:57 <noob7> that is fucking awesome!
22:58 <noob7> I really want the backstory to this
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22:58 <noob7> I hope more of those how up, then they can remove the heads and stack them together... aw the memories :D
22:59 <guru3> haha
23:00 <noob7> maybe it's a trojan lego and greeks are hiding in there...
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23:05 <ellio1> luke!
23:05 <ellio1> hey
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23:06 <dhm> it's dhm
23:07 <@luke-jr> ...
23:07 <@luke-jr> /j #armalukechat
23:07 <dhm> k
23:10 <noob7> his own #?
23:10 <noob7> if he has one we all need one!
23:10 <dhm> lol yes
23:10 <dhm> :D
23:13 <Lucifer_arma> Beware of Trojans, they're complete smegheads!
23:15 <noob7> go with Durex then
23:15 <noob7> we were talking bout this: http://uk.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUKL0787011420070807
23:19 <GodTodd> maybe he was committing suicide?
23:20 <Lucifer_arma> clearly it's an alien
23:20 <Lucifer_arma> or rather, it's obvious that the alien rubber ducks formed up together into a giant lego man
23:21 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,996684,00.html
23:21 <noob7> I still go with my torjan lego theory, there HAS to be something inside
23:22 <noob7> yeah those rubber ducks are pretty neat. I especially like how they were/are used to monitor streams in the ocean
23:22 <Lucifer_arma> well, if you read what's on his chest, you can see that it wasn't put there by a native english speaker
23:22 <noob7> maybe he is FROM THE FUTURE?
23:23 <Lucifer_arma> come to think of it, it could be that the dolphins are finally invading
23:23 <guru3> Lucifer_arma: im getting problems with your email
23:23 <Lucifer_arma> my email?
23:23 <guru3> something with it
23:23 <Lucifer_arma> ummmm
23:23 <Lucifer_arma> lemme guess, address doesn't exist?
23:23 <Lucifer_arma> what address is it?
23:23 <guru3> <davidfancella@davefancella.com>: host aspmx.l.google.com[209.85.199.27] said: 550 5.1.1 No such user l31si1229608rvb (in reply to RCPT TO command)
23:23 <guru3> not quite sure what that means exactly
23:24 <Lucifer_arma> means the user doesn't exist
23:24 <Lucifer_arma> lemme try to fix it real quick
23:24 <noob7> I just think it's a neat thing, and whatever it is that's behind the whole shebang, I'll print myself a shirt with "No Real Than You Are" when I get back from my vacation
23:24 <Lucifer_arma> I got inundated with spam this weekend, which indicates that someone I know has just been hit with a virus of some sort
23:24 <Lucifer_arma> rather, I got bounces from spam that were sent claiming to be <someone>@davefancella.com
23:24 <Lucifer_arma> so to clean up my inbox, I disabled the catch-all address
23:24 <guru3> ah
23:24 <Lucifer_arma> so I'll go see if I can make an alias, if not I'll just fix that
23:26 <guru3> that'd be good
23:26 <guru3> so my inbox stops filling up with the bounce notifications
23:26 <Lucifer_arma> mind sending me an email to that address real quick? ;)
23:27 <guru3> should be sent one
23:27 <Lucifer_arma> got it, thanks
23:27 <Lucifer_arma> I was wondering why I wasn't getting any forum notifications :)
23:28 <guru3> and i was wondering why i was getting all these bounces -_-
23:28 <Lucifer_arma> hmm, I should create a couple more aliases
23:29 <Lucifer_arma> hey wait a minute, I'll be I can finally make an email address that my wife and I can both receive
23:29 * Lucifer_arma tries to remember why he needed one
23:29 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, phone messages
23:29 <guru3> -_-
23:31 <Lucifer_arma> I get all my phone messages emailed to me, and I wanted my wife to get those emails too
23:31 <guru3> asterisk?
23:31 <Lucifer_arma> ?
23:34 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.asterisk.org/about <--- that?
23:35 <GodTodd> hrmm... Lucifer_arma, do i have to have you set up anything special so that i could have people send stuff to <whomever>@toddmacy.com and it get forwarded to my gmail or whatever?
23:35 <Lucifer_arma> ? noooo, I'm only hosting your website, not email ;)
23:36 <Lucifer_arma> but you could go hit up google apps to host your email
23:36 <GodTodd> i could set up something like that there?
23:36 <Lucifer_arma> personally I'd do it the other way, have your gmail account forward to toddmacy.com, but tht's just me
23:36 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, it's free
23:37 <Lucifer_arma> https://www.google.com/a/
23:37 <GodTodd> well...i could do that too...except that afaik anything sent to toddmacy.com goes into the ether :)
23:37 <Lucifer_arma> you have to make certain dns entries to get mail working
23:38 <Lucifer_arma> you do that through your domain registrar, typically. I use no-ip for that, so I use no-ip's interface to do it
23:38 <Lucifer_arma> and you have to prove to google that you own the domain, which shouldn't be hard
23:38 <Lucifer_arma> create the file they asked for in your svn checkout of your website and commit it
23:39 <GodTodd> yeah...i have a google apps account set up still i think
23:39 <GodTodd> i did it a while back
23:40 <GodTodd> i'll have to check into it after while
23:40 <GodTodd> cuz i'd really like to just use my domain
23:40 <GodTodd> :)
23:40 <Lucifer_arma> after your final :)
23:40 <GodTodd> for all i know it's already set up
23:40 <GodTodd> yeah
23:40 <GodTodd> which is tomorrow night
23:41 <Lucifer_arma> it's not hard, but the dns stuff isn't terribly obvious
23:41 <GodTodd> and i *have* to get at least a 45
23:41 <GodTodd> i think i might have done it before
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23:46 <Lucifer_arma> I sure hope you've gotten at least a 45 on a calc test before
23:46 <mkzelda> #weather 27545
23:46 <armabot> mkzelda: The current temperature in Hedingham, Raleigh, North Carolina is 101.7°F (5:50 PM EDT on August 08, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 26%. Dew Point: 60.8°F. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009.0 hPa (Falling). Excessive heat warning in effect until 7 PM EDT this evening...
23:46 <Lucifer_arma> bbiab, running to the car, smoking a cigarette, and peeing (yes, this is my personal journal)
23:46 <mkzelda> what a bad day for the power to go out
23:48 <mkzelda> it started getting too hot at my house so i took my dogs to the river, but the jumped in at a spot they couldnt get back out so i had to jump in fully clothed to get them
23:49 <mkzelda> nasty muddy river
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00:22 <epsy> O_o
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00:25 <Lucifer_arma> it appears the power plug itself is broken
00:25 <Lucifer_arma> the PCB seems to be ok, I've traced several lines from it and found no resistance where there shouldn't be any
00:26 <Lucifer_arma> the joints themselves have continuity where they should and none where they shouldn't
00:26 <Lucifer_arma> but you have to push real hard on the plug to get it to turn on
00:26 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, I get voltage out of the plug, so I mean the outlet that it plugs into inside the box
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00:27 <Lucifer_arma> guess I'll plug in the soldering iron and get it off the board so I can look more closely at it
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01:00 <mkzelda> i just saw a fat black dude ride by on a pink barbie bike while smoking a blunt
01:01 <mkzelda> reminded me of nigga stole my bike
01:01 <epsy> that makes me think of my color in arma :)
01:01 <mkzelda> epsy wanna play nexuiz?
01:01 <epsy> now not
01:02 <mkzelda> :(
01:02 <epsy> ok for 5 mins :)
01:02 <epsy> where ?
01:02 <mkzelda> heh
01:02 <mkzelda> ur eurotrash?
01:02 <epsy> wha?
01:02 <mkzelda> you in .fr right?'
01:02 <epsy> indeed
01:02 <mkzelda> im .us, it'll suck for one of us either way, ill take the hit if u have a decent server in mind
01:03 <epsy> bah go for american
01:03 <epsy> i'm asleep anyways
01:03 <mkzelda> k, u know GA ladder?
01:03 <epsy> and i didn't played nex for like a month
01:03 <epsy> wait i look for that
01:03 <mkzelda> i run a server too, lets see the ping for that
01:03 <mkzelda> its got antilag on and ladder rules
01:03 <mkzelda> connect mkzelda.mkzelda.com
01:04 <mkzelda> if the ping is bad ill tell u the IP for GA ladder server
01:04 <mkzelda> oh hold on
01:05 <mkzelda> my power went out, server is down
01:05 <mkzelda> k its up
01:05 <epsy> lol
01:05 <epsy> again failed
01:05 <epsy> 10 second time out
01:06 <epsy> i see some « game arena » server from australia :P
01:07 <mkzelda> :/
01:07 <mkzelda> how about 64.22.107.122:26001
01:08 <mkzelda> i cant alt+tab from the game (linux) to check back here
01:08 <mkzelda> like u can in windows
01:08 <epsy> excellent
01:08 <mkzelda> okay ill see u there
01:08 <epsy> well, i do use the con then i stwitch ;P
01:24 <digitx> -.-
01:24 <digitx> -.-
01:24 <digitx> -.
01:24 <digitx> --
01:27 <Lucifer_arma> grrr
01:28 <Lucifer_arma> figured out what's wrong, but only after taking the plug out
01:28 <Lucifer_arma> I could've just soldered up the back of the plug
01:28 <Lucifer_arma> it's ok though, I'll work out a tighter connection
01:36 <epsy> mkzelda, i sucked
01:37 <epsy> hmm still banned from #e
01:37 <epsy> #night
01:37 <armabot> Good night epsy!
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02:15 <Lucifer_arma> well, it's fixed, but I didn't really have enough solder, so I'm a have to pull it apart again when I get home and finish soldering
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03:14 <Lucifer_arma> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objections_to_evolution
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03:17 <PsYkO> Everyone is sleeping.
03:20 <luke-jr> liar
03:20 <PsYkO> no you
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03:25 <PsYkO> st-ew-ie
03:25 <Stewie-Arma> Ps-Y-kO
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03:27 <PsYkO> canada ftw
03:29 <Stewie-Arma> hey vanhayes
03:33 <PsYkO> stewie - private chat
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03:53 <Vanhayes> hey
03:54 <Stewie-Arma> rofl took you long enough
03:54 <Vanhayes> i was peeling my sunburnt head
03:54 <Stewie-Arma> are you bald?
03:55 <Vanhayes> 5 days in the sun, from when it rises to well past it sets and short blond hair, plus no sunscreen isnt a good idea
03:55 <Stewie-Arma> heh, I can do 5 days in the sun, infact it was my job for 2 years (rarely with sunscreen)
03:57 <Vanhayes> I can usually manage 2-3 without getting a bad burn, but when its 5 and absolutlry no shade its too much for me
03:57 <Stewie-Arma> maybe you should start thinking outside of tron...
03:58 <Vanhayes> i havnet played tron in a while, yesturday was the first time in about 2 weeks
03:58 <Stewie-Arma> aww and I wasn't even there for it
03:58 <Stewie-Arma> how could you do that to me van, how?
03:58 * Vanhayes just got back from a big festival
03:59 <Vanhayes> ill check with you next time I want to play after 2 weeks away :)
04:00 <Stewie-Arma> thank you
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05:23 <Lucifer_arma> http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=4302396
05:23 <Lucifer_arma> this is only like the third time I've been to myspace, but if that's the band I think it is....
05:23 <Stewie-Arma> aww not myspace -.-
05:24 <Lucifer_arma> sorry
05:24 <Lucifer_arma> good punk bad, at least if it's the band I think it is they're real good :)
05:24 <Stewie-Arma> which would be a good song?
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> don't know, I haven't had any of their discs since 1995
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> if it's the same band
05:25 <Stewie-Arma> lol
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> if it's not, then nvm
05:25 <Stewie-Arma> I doubt it is
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> they were out of print when I got it
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> well, the "I wanna be an idiot" song sounded like their style, and at least one band member has the same name
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> other than that, I just don't have anything to compare and google's not turning much up
05:26 <Stewie-Arma> are they from illinois?
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> don't remember, remember, they were out of print when I bought the disc back in the early 90s
05:28 <Stewie-Arma> so they are old? lol
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> I was wanting to hear Flight 911 today
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> well, they only had the one CD...
05:29 <Stewie-Arma> is flight 911 a song of theirs?
05:29 <Stewie-Arma> (just clearing it up)
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> yes
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> anybody here got a myspace account already?
05:30 <Stewie-Arma> eff no
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> I'm probably asking in the wrong place
05:30 <Stewie-Arma> lol
05:30 <Vanhayes> I think I signed up a while ago so i could look at something
05:31 <Stewie-Arma> sorry luci can't find anything on gangrene
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> me neither
05:31 <Stewie-Arma> I also checked metacrawler
05:32 <Lucifer_arma> Vanhayes: I'm wanting someone to send these guys a message and ask them if they're the same band, or give 'em my email address and ask them to email me to tell me if they're the same band
05:32 <Stewie-Arma> wait do you still have the cd?
05:33 <Vanhayes> well I dont remember the name/pass
05:33 <Lucifer_arma> no, I don't
05:33 <Lucifer_arma> if I did I could confirm fairly easily :)
05:33 <Stewie-Arma> BTW question about arma: if the latest version is 0.2.8.2.1 is 0.3 not public yet?
05:34 <Stewie-Arma> and if so then why are we working on 0.3.1?
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> 0.3 is development, meaning experimental
05:34 <Stewie-Arma> aww
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> new users are expected to use 0.2.8.x unless they want to be beta testers :)
05:35 <Stewie-Arma> does that mean I'm a beta tester ^_^
05:35 <Stewie-Arma> lol
05:35 <Vanhayes> hmm 0.3 has been out for over a year now hasnt it?
05:35 <Stewie-Arma> don't think so
05:35 <Stewie-Arma> 0.2.8.2
05:35 <Stewie-Arma> blech
05:35 <Stewie-Arma> 0.2.8.2.x has been tho, that's where fort started
05:36 <Stewie-Arma> or was that 0.2.8.1? lol
05:36 <Vanhayes> fort is just about 2 years old I think, so it was probably at the end of 0.2.7
05:37 <Vanhayes> http://beta.armagetronad.net/?product=client&branch=Any&hideold=0&os=Windows&arch=&bitness=&format=#download --> yup its been over a year since 0.3
05:37 <Stewie-Arma> no.... I 0.2.7 only had the standard win and death zones I believe...
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> fort started in the run-up to 0.2.8.0
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> we delayed the 0.2.8.0 release to add it :)
05:38 <Stewie-Arma> awww
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> (more like to test it)
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> aww?
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> why awww?
05:38 <Stewie-Arma> aww as in oh
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> everybody's happy they're not still waiting for it
05:38 <Stewie-Arma> lol
05:38 <Vanhayes> all I know is that i started playing at almost the same time fortress started
05:38 <Stewie-Arma> orly?
05:38 <Stewie-Arma> I've been playing since 2.5
05:38 <tramshed> ive been playing since 03 or so
05:39 <Stewie-Arma> luci how long have you been playing?
05:39 <tramshed> missed a coupla years between 05 and 07
05:39 <Vanhayes> i started on the first 0.2.8 or maybe I had to upgrade to it
05:39 <Stewie-Arma> I remember the beta 0.2.8 everyone was freaked out by the new gameplay glitches
05:39 <Stewie-Arma> such as going through the walls
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> Stewie-Arma: 0.2.7.0 was released right before I started playing
05:40 <Stewie-Arma> (only happens during high rubber games)
05:40 <tramshed> heh, 2.7 was the one that was supposed to stop bouncing wasnt it
05:40 <tramshed> and bends
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> no
05:40 <tramshed> which one was that?
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> 0.2.7.1 stopped all that
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> successfully, even. :)
05:40 <tramshed> I could still bend in 2.7 iirc
05:40 <Stewie-Arma> yeah it was
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> I think you were in jail when 0.2.7.1 came out
05:40 <tramshed> oh noooo
05:41 <tramshed> when was the first time we upgraded in a LONG time
05:41 <tramshed> in 04 maybe
05:41 <Stewie-Arma> over a year ago
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> I might be wrong, I know you were here when z-man came back, because he suggested you run a master server
05:41 <tramshed> yeah
05:41 <tramshed> once I get a server again I can do that too
05:41 <tramshed> my isp is pretty good now
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> 0.2.7.1 came out soon after he came back
05:41 <tramshed> yeah I was here for that
05:41 <tramshed> because if you used 2.6 in 2.7 you were god
05:42 <Stewie-Arma> lol
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> a lot of people hated it compared to 0.2.7.0 for some reason, but it did stop the ripping
05:42 <tramshed> you basically could not explode
05:42 <Stewie-Arma> I didn't switch till the servers did
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> you can still "bend" because that's an artifact of the network
05:42 <tramshed> I didnt like it when it came out because it changed how grinding felt
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> but the bends don't last
05:42 <Stewie-Arma> I still do a couple bad ones but not that much anymore
05:43 <Stewie-Arma> infact I haven't done any in a couple months
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> in hindsight I think that was more about just not finding good default settings, joe had the grind working right on his server eventually
05:43 <tramshed> I havnt been able to bend at all with the current ver
05:43 <tramshed> grinding seems normal now
05:43 <tramshed> I think getting rid of bounce is what fixed it
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> if you're talking about the same bend I'm talking about, it doesn't happen as much, but there was a huge net code refactoring for this version
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> bounce crept back :)
05:43 <tramshed> im talkng about when the outside wall would start flapping or disappear
05:43 <Stewie-Arma> I noticed high rubber servers seem to have a lot more gameplay glitches then low rubber ones, is this cause of the rubber amount or the cycle delay or something else?
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> it's just very rare
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> that was the rip bug, wasn't it?
05:44 <tramshed> because you ground it so close it didnt like it anymore
05:44 <tramshed> yeah
05:44 <tramshed> bend was right before a rip
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> part rendering problem, part something else
05:44 <tramshed> the wall would literally bend
05:44 <Stewie-Arma> arg grrr that one was annoying
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> ah right, that bend
05:44 <tramshed> and start smashing people
05:44 <Stewie-Arma> that was all the way through 0.2.8
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, that's gone, and it was mostly gone in 0.2.7.1
05:44 <tramshed> or it would rip and disappear, then escape the grid
05:44 <tramshed> cant tunnel through lines any more either
05:44 <Stewie-Arma> actually luci the first time I got that glitch was in 0.2.8
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> so far everybody whose said they've managed to rip in 0.2.8 hasn't given up a recording showing it
05:45 <tramshed> I tried on a stupid high rubber server
05:45 <tramshed> it rips for half a second and fixes itself
05:45 <tramshed> makes the server laggy as fuck though
05:45 <Stewie-Arma> those have the worst glitches
05:45 <tramshed> im still amazed at my isp
05:45 <Stewie-Arma> and now there's a new one that just holds you back and uses all your rubber
05:46 <Stewie-Arma> what's your speed tramshed?
05:46 <tramshed> they actually said if I buy static addresses they will give me dns control
05:46 <tramshed> 3mbit, not uber fast, but I cant afford 6 right now
05:46 <tramshed> low latentcy though
05:46 <tramshed> and native ipv6
05:46 <Stewie-Arma> I'm getting 5 shared I believe
05:46 <tramshed> mines not shared thankfully
05:46 <Stewie-Arma> lucky -.-
05:46 <tramshed> indeed
05:47 <Stewie-Arma> plus mines wireless thus having more often having major packet loss
05:47 <Stewie-Arma> and I used the word having to much in that sentence
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05:47 <tramshed> ive got wireless but dont use it
05:47 <Stewie-Arma> hello arctanx
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05:47 <Stewie-Arma> oh?
05:47 <Stewie-Arma> wait do you have laptop or desktop?
05:47 <tramshed> lapper, shitty, borrowed, overheats
05:48 <Stewie-Arma> haha I've got a 4 year old mac laptop
05:48 <tramshed> locks when compiling
05:48 <tramshed> locks when playing 3d intesive games
05:48 <tramshed> locks when just sitting there sometimes
05:48 <Stewie-Arma> rofl
05:48 <tramshed> os independant locks too
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> you got a dell?
05:48 <tramshed> gatewat
05:48 <Stewie-Arma> I recomend getting a new hp if you want a laptop
05:49 <tramshed> fuckalapper
05:49 <tramshed> I looked at what my next system is gonna cost
05:49 <tramshed> bout 1400
05:49 <tramshed> cant just upgrade since all my shit got stole
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct=us/8-0-0&fp=46baa79fa95c2042&ei=To26RtS0Dp6MoQKV7PG0BA&url=http%3A//www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/08/08/ap4001766.html&cid=1119050756&sig2=AFm-aWT4V21CL_bvhR05Mg
05:49 <Stewie-Arma> all your shit got stole?
05:50 <tramshed> am2 6000, 2gb ddr800, 2x 500gb seagates, gf8800, 22inch lcd
05:50 <tramshed> yeah
05:50 <tramshed> when I went to prison
05:50 <Lucifer_arma> that's how it works. Go to jail, go directly to jail, do not pass go, and all your shit gets stolen.
05:50 <tramshed> lost about 10,000 worth of stuff
05:50 <tramshed> thats why im on a borrowed lappy
05:50 <Stewie-Arma> I thought they had to keep all that stuff in high security shit?
05:50 <tramshed> someone else stole it, not the cops
05:50 <Stewie-Arma> damn
05:51 <Stewie-Arma> that sucks
05:51 <tramshed> very much so
05:51 <tramshed> lost two catalyst switchs
05:51 <tramshed> one 1900 and one 2900
05:51 <Stewie-Arma> fur serial?
05:51 <tramshed> 24 port, and 26 port + 2 fiber ports respectively
05:52 <tramshed> lost all 6 of my boxes
05:52 <tramshed> all my cabling and tools
05:52 <tramshed> all my discs/spare parts
05:52 <tramshed> about 15 monitors
05:52 <Stewie-Arma> and the government hasn't refunded a bit?
05:52 <Stewie-Arma> oh wait that stuffs not their conserne
05:52 <tramshed> they didnt steal it
05:52 <tramshed> so they dont give a fuck
05:53 <Stewie-Arma> especially when it's for an ex-con -.-
05:53 <Stewie-Arma> ex-cons get treated so badly
05:53 <tramshed> heh, you have no idea
05:54 <Stewie-Arma> do you have a job now (at least)?
05:54 <tramshed> I just got out a little over two weeks ago
05:54 <tramshed> and had to take care of another warrant
05:54 <tramshed> just got out of that today
05:54 <tramshed> on tether now
05:54 <Stewie-Arma> orly?
05:55 <Stewie-Arma> parole?
05:55 <tramshed> aye
05:55 <Stewie-Arma> aww so they got you on close watch don't they
05:56 <tramshed> im on tether right now
05:56 <tramshed> for the second warrant
05:56 <tramshed> and the parole is pretty close, but I have a cool PO
05:56 <Stewie-Arma> nice
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> Their leaders have given them immigration reform as pest control.
06:00 <Stewie-Arma> luci are you okay?
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/09/opinion/09thu1.html?hp
06:03 <Stewie-Arma> ha if that starts then the economy is going to crash
06:07 <Stewie-Arma> oh man, has anyone seen the movie Love & Death, Starring Woody Allen?
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> I'm sure somebody's seen it, but I haven't
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> I think this immigration reform is really just more xenophobia, the more I think about it
06:12 <Stewie-Arma> well I wouldn't say it's xenophobia, cause they aren't that unfamiliar anymore...
06:12 <Stewie-Arma> and we already eat their food
06:12 <Stewie-Arma> lol
06:15 <Lucifer_arma> then why are people arguing that they "need to learn our culture, learn our language"?
06:16 <Stewie-Arma> then that would be xenophobia on their part would it not? we are used to it already, we aren't that afraid of hearing the language where just afraid that they might be plotting against us? so yeah I guess it is xenophobia
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> I've actually had people tell me they didn't want their own culture ruined/polluted by mexican culture
06:17 <Stewie-Arma> ha they should try living in so cal
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> this is central texas, you know....
06:17 <Stewie-Arma> the only thing bad here are the roads lol
06:19 <Stewie-Arma> man my network is crapping out...
06:26 <Stewie-Arma> THOSE DAMN KIDS BOOSTING THEIR HIP-HOP MAKING ALL THE DAMN CAR ALARMS GOING OFF! SO ANNOYING!
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06:35 <Lucifer_arma> I'm going to get all of my forum accounts up to 2k posts each and then sell them to spammers
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> bet I'd make a killing
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> (before I suffered a killing)
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07:06 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: what i have gleaned from my QDSoG: it's highly doubtful that this gangrene is the same one from the early 90s...even if one of the members is the same, i doubt they had the same bassist, at least, since this one was born in 9/1983...and even if the band is the same one even a bit then you probably wouldn't like them anymore since i found stuff where the bassist was spouting his love of jesus and the story of
07:06 <GodTodd> when he found the love of god
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> heh, you're right, thanks :)
07:19 <GodTodd> np :)
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07:41 <spidey> ?
07:42 <Stewie-Arma> taking one character away... what does it symbolize?
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08:40 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: if you get a chance, could you do me a favor and shoot an email to todd@toddmacy.com?
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09:24 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, bash -c "command"> blah.loh
09:24 <spidey> log*
09:25 <spidey> that's how i pipe the output to blah.log, right?
09:35 <beta_usa> Yes.
09:35 <beta_usa> You can also use tee
10:20 <beta_usa> --enable-glout enable graphical output; otherwise compile a dedicated server (default=enable)
10:21 <beta_usa> That's weird. If it's enabled by default, why isn't it a --disable-glout option instead ?
10:24 <beta_usa> Ok, I can replace enable by disable for each option. It's just the --help option that is funny.
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10:41 <beta_usa> --enable-memmanager enable custom memory manager on systems that allow it <= How can we know it our system allow it ? Is there a doc somewhere (i mean something else than the faq and the wiki that, unless i missed it, don't have detail about compilations options)
10:41 <beta_usa> ?
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10:51 <spidey> spidey
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14:05 <epsy> hi
14:05 <beta_usa> hi
14:06 <epsy> do you think 2pm is a correct hour to wake up ?
14:07 <beta_usa> I'd say it's still early.
14:07 <epsy> gah
14:07 <beta_usa> You can go sleep a little more.
14:16 <epsy> t'habites ou ?
14:16 <beta_usa> Ahah, je n'avais même pas tilté que c'était la même timezone que moi ^^
14:17 <epsy> heh
14:17 <beta_usa> J'habites en région parisienne.
14:17 <epsy> ah
14:17 <beta_usa> Toi ?
14:17 <epsy> dans paris
14:18 <beta_usa> OKi.
14:19 <beta_usa> Moi je suis à Malakoff pour le moment, avant j'habitais à Opéra (enfin à côté entre boulevard des Italiens et boulevard Haussman).
14:20 <epsy> je vois
14:21 <beta_usa> Et toi j'imagine que tu es dans le 18e.
14:24 <epsy> manqué, le 17 eme :P
14:30 <beta_usa> Arg :p Pas loin.
14:31 <epsy> :P
14:40 <epsy> #tea
14:40 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: No online players.
14:40 <epsy> hmpf
14:40 <epsy> #armaservers
14:40 <armabot> epsy: This data is 56 seconds old; Chico's Brake Boost Styball (8/8), Wildcat (7/16), The Tavern (5/16), Bugfarm Elimination Sumo (5/16), Tigers Network Classic Play (5/16), ¬| D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (4/16), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (4/12), ~TP~ The Plague ~TP~ (2/8), GEMINI PROJECT DF (1/6), The Dip Bowl (1/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (1/14), SPACEZONE (1 more message)
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15:23 <epsy> #lastseen Monkey
15:23 <armabot> epsy: Monkey has last been seen on Wild West =Capture The Flag= 3 hours 27 minutes ago.
15:25 <beta_usa> #lastseen thokul
15:25 <beta_usa> :/
15:25 <armabot> beta_usa: timed out
15:25 <beta_usa> #lastseen krazykow
15:25 <armabot> beta_usa: KrazyKow has last been seen on Wild West =Capture The Flag= 1 day 3 hours 30 minutes ago.
15:49 <beta_usa> #lastseen krazykow
15:49 <armabot> beta_usa: KrazyKow seems to be on Wild West =Capture The Flag= right now.
15:49 <beta_usa> heh
15:56 <beta_usa> wrtlprnft: ping ?
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16:11 <spidey> spidey
16:11 <tramshed> kill.
16:12 <digitx> xD
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16:24 <epsy> O_o
16:25 <digitx> xD
16:25 <digitx> xD
16:25 <digitx> xDxDxd
16:27 <epsy> Lucifer_arma, no playoffs ?
16:29 <MrBougo> http://www.explosm.net/comics/982/
16:29 <MrBougo> wtf! rofl
16:29 <MrBougo> i love this comic
16:29 <MrBougo> so nonsensical
16:29 <epsy> eh
16:30 <digitx> epsito
16:30 <digitx> http://digitx.homelinux.org/ss/ss~1.png
16:30 <digitx> look gajim
16:30 <digitx> :D
16:30 <digitx> there: EPSY!
16:30 <digitx> flooder
16:30 <digitx> xD
16:31 <epsy> wanna get more ?
16:31 <digitx> no no
16:31 <epsy> i don't see where's my flood
16:31 <MrBougo> how the hell do you open a link in xchat without using teh mouse
16:31 <epsy> you can't
16:31 <digitx> xD
16:31 <MrBougo> tried to tab till i get the text window, but i cant
16:31 <digitx> xD
16:31 <MrBougo> damn
16:32 <MrBougo> my mouse is charging
16:32 <digitx> epsy, i wanna get more
16:32 <digitx> :D
16:32 <MrBougo> my damn sister ALWAYS forget to fuckin charge it
16:32 <epsy> well, you can type the adress in the url bar of your browser manually
16:32 <MrBougo> fuck
16:32 <MrBougo> yeeee, manual copypaste
16:32 <epsy> indeed
16:32 <MrBougo> i'll use the mouse
16:32 <epsy> digitx, then connect/unblock me
16:32 <MrBougo> still a lil bit of batteries
16:32 <digitx> no
16:32 <MrBougo> but i cant play nexuiz without any mouse
16:33 <epsy> MrBougo, sure, the turn keys are so fscking awesome
16:33 <digitx> unblocked
16:33 <epsy> connect then
16:34 <digitx> connected
16:34 <digitx> -.-
16:34 <digitx> unblock me
16:34 <digitx> nub :D
16:34 <MrBougo> epsy, how the hell will you aime correctly
16:34 <MrBougo> aim*
16:34 <epsy> you can't
16:34 <digitx> lol
16:34 <digitx> x:D
16:34 <MrBougo> so..
16:34 <digitx> my nexuiz is shit
16:34 <MrBougo> i will only be able tot urn around
16:34 <epsy> so you're fucked
16:34 <digitx> shit mouse
16:34 <digitx> -.-
16:34 <digitx> :
16:34 <MrBougo> get weapons, throw them to the teammates
16:34 <MrBougo> yee, tahts fun
16:34 <epsy> :)
16:35 <epsy> digitx, i have like 5 different adresses of you -_-
16:36 <MrBougo> :(
16:36 <digitx> LOL
16:36 <digitx> wtf?
16:36 <digitx> xD
16:36 <MrBougo> digitx cant be serious :(
16:36 <digitx> fu
16:36 <digitx> :D
16:37 <epsy> so, here we go
16:37 * epsy plugs the spam input
16:37 <epsy> this one is really longer
16:37 <epsy> btw, you can say thanks to P4
16:38 <digitx> LOL
16:38 <digitx> epsy
16:38 <digitx> very long?
16:38 <digitx> :(
16:38 <epsy> very long
16:38 <digitx> because i wanna make screenshot
16:38 <epsy> bah
16:38 <digitx> ok ok no scrrenshot
16:38 <digitx> PASTEBIN
16:38 <epsy> rof
16:38 <epsy> l
16:38 <epsy> you can read the story, too
16:39 <digitx> how?
16:39 <digitx> i'm shit
16:39 <digitx> :D
16:39 <digitx> i dont understand
16:39 <digitx> xD
16:39 <digitx> [16.45.43] epsy: I'm the wolf.
16:39 <digitx> [16.45.48] epsy: Alexander T Wolf.
16:39 <digitx> xDDDDDDd
16:39 <digitx> XDDDDDDDDDD
16:39 <digitx> [16.47.33] epsy: So I called, "Little Pig, Little Pig, are you in?"
16:39 <digitx> [16.47.38] epsy: No answer.
16:39 <digitx> xDDD
16:39 <MrBougo> ?
16:39 <digitx> ahh epsy xD no answer for u
16:39 <digitx> xD
16:39 <digitx> three little pigs
16:40 <digitx> story
16:40 <digitx> :D
16:40 <digitx> [16.45.23] epsy: Everybody knows the story of the Three Little Pigs.
16:40 <digitx> [16.45.28] epsy: Or at least they think they do.
16:40 <digitx> [16.45.33] epsy: But I'll let you in on a little secret.
16:40 <digitx> [16.45.38] epsy: Nobody knows the real story, because nobody has ever heard my side of the story.
16:40 <epsy> well, P4's version
16:40 <epsy> :P
16:40 <MrBougo> can i get it too?
16:40 <epsy> sure
16:40 <digitx> :D
16:40 <digitx> wait
16:40 <digitx> mrbougo
16:40 <digitx> i use pastebin
16:40 <MrBougo> so digitx wont have to spam the channel...
16:40 <digitx> after
16:40 <digitx> ok?
16:40 <digitx> pff
16:40 <MrBougo> if you want
16:40 <epsy> MrBougo, jte prévient mon truc de spam est vraiment chiant
16:40 <digitx> nuub
16:40 <digitx> mrbougo.. then no!!!!!
16:40 <MrBougo> truc de spam?
16:40 <MrBougo> nan
16:40 <MrBougo> pastebin
16:40 <epsy> si
16:40 <epsy> tfé chier aussi
16:40 <MrBougo> ou fichier par msn
16:40 <MrBougo> ou ftp
16:41 <MrBougo> ou apache
16:41 <MrBougo> ou par la poste aussi
16:41 <MrBougo> pigeon voyageur
16:41 <digitx> [16.49.23] epsy: I called, "Mr. Pig, Mr. Pig, are you in?"
16:41 <epsy> trop tard
16:41 <digitx> mr bougo mr bougo are u in?
16:41 <digitx> :D
16:41 <MrBougo> tu demandes à Ariane 6 de passer par chez moi me livrer l'histoire
16:42 <digitx> epsy
16:42 <digitx> use pastebin
16:42 <digitx> :D
16:42 <epsy> kidanger, la config htf c t du bon ?
16:42 <digitx> use pastebin
16:42 <epsy> pastebin remembered me that :P
16:42 <digitx> use pastebin
16:42 <epsy> digitx, i can't stop it :P
16:42 <digitx> paste2.org
16:42 <digitx> pls send
16:42 <digitx> i know
16:43 <epsy> bah, go on crazy-tronners.com and search for p4's post
16:43 <digitx> then no::D
16:43 <digitx> i dont wanna -.-
16:43 <epsy> ok
16:43 <digitx> wtf ur flooding is shit
16:43 <digitx> too slow -.-
16:43 <epsy> that's exactly what's annoying XD
16:44 <kidanger> epsy: oui je croit sue c'est bon
16:44 <digitx> I'm the wolf.
16:44 <digitx> Alexander T Wolf.
16:44 <digitx> xDDDD
16:44 <epsy> digitx, it's about zending
16:44 <epsy> *ending
16:44 <kidanger> epsy: enfin .. je n'ai pas repatcher le server :/
16:44 <digitx> [16.52.59] epsy: The real story.
16:44 <epsy> But maybe you could loan me a cup of sugar?
16:45 <digitx> [16.53.09] epsy: But maybe you could loan me a cup of sugar?
16:45 <digitx> xD
16:46 <digitx> http://paste2.org/p/5643
16:46 <epsy> ":}"
16:47 <epsy> hmm that's pertty long
16:49 <epsy> MrBougo, finished
16:49 <MrBougo> perrty
16:49 <MrBougo> DAMN
16:49 <MrBougo> i hate that
16:49 <digitx> peerty
16:49 <digitx> xD
16:49 <MrBougo> i wanna grab my mouse and its on the charger
16:49 <digitx> mrbugi
16:49 <digitx> comment va tu nub
16:49 <digitx> xD
16:49 <epsy> use it from the charger
16:50 <digitx> fu!
16:50 <digitx> xD
16:50 <epsy> put your finger on it's back and...
16:50 <MrBougo> lol epsy
16:50 <MrBougo> stil talking about the charger, i hope
16:50 <MrBougo> digitx: /ignore digitx
16:50 <digitx> reason?
16:50 <digitx> nuub
16:50 <MrBougo> you're pretty boring, sometimes
16:50 <digitx> -.-
16:51 <digitx> lie
16:51 <digitx> :D
16:51 <MrBougo> you are
16:51 <MrBougo> ask epsy
16:51 <digitx> :))
16:51 <digitx> i dont speak with epsy
16:51 <digitx> never
16:51 <digitx> ...
16:51 <MrBougo> yayn my mouse is charged
16:51 <epsy> i'm wondering what happens if i ignore myself
16:51 <MrBougo> i cant plkay nex
16:51 <MrBougo> i wonder too, epsy
16:52 <MrBougo> yesy
16:52 <MrBougo> doesnt work
16:52 <epsy> /ignore never worked for me =/
16:52 <digitx> maybe /ignore digitx ALL
16:52 <digitx> -.-
16:53 <epsy> digitx, speak
16:54 <digitx> ?
16:54 <digitx> -.-
16:54 <epsy> damn
16:54 <digitx> <[.]>_<[.]>
16:54 <digitx> xD
16:55 <digitx> x)
16:58 <MrBougo> digitx: say something
16:58 <MrBougo> it works!
16:58 <digitx> ok
16:58 <digitx> FU MRBOUGO
16:59 <MrBougo> #test
16:59 <MrBougo> #help
16:59 <armabot> MrBougo: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
16:59 <MrBougo> weeee
16:59 <MrBougo> ignore works
16:59 <MrBougo> #test
16:59 <MrBougo> #help
16:59 <armabot> MrBougo: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
16:59 <digitx> #m MrBougo fu
16:59 <armabot> digitx: The operation succeeded.
16:59 <MrBougo> i dunno if digitx is talking
17:00 <MrBougo> so i ignored armabot
17:00 <MrBougo> and it works :D
17:00 <MrBougo> now how dya unignore
17:00 <MrBougo> i cant unignore armabot
17:00 <MrBougo> oh ok
17:00 <MrBougo> found out
17:00 <digitx> #m MrBougo fu
17:00 <armabot> digitx: The operation succeeded.
17:00 <MrBougo> #help
17:00 <armabot> MrBougo: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
17:01 <MrBougo> is armabot down?
17:01 <digitx> xDDDD
17:01 <MrBougo> or my ignorelist is buggin
17:01 <digitx> LOL
17:01 <MrBougo> its still there
17:01 <MrBougo> remov'd?
17:01 <MrBougo> #help
17:01 <armabot> MrBougo: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
17:01 <MrBougo> ok, its removed
17:01 <MrBougo> :)
17:02 <MrBougo> lol digitx i didnt ignore you :)
17:02 <MrBougo> got all your msgs
17:02 <MrBougo> FU YOURSELF
17:04 <digitx> #m MrBougo fu
17:04 <armabot> digitx: The operation succeeded.
17:04 <digitx> i know how u didnt ignored me.
17:04 <digitx> :)
17:09 <MrBougo> digitx, you're BORING
17:10 <MrBougo> wrtlprnft: can i ask you to make armabot ignore digitx?
17:14 <luke-jr> MrBougo: just ask
17:27 <tramshed> haha I love this quote
17:27 <tramshed> I don't swear or use caps often, but when tram started blasting bots, my only reply was "HOLY FUCK". it was insane to watch, AT5s (who have armor goddamit) blew up everywhere around him. it was like a light show at a concert where the first 300 rows got their heads blown up.
17:27 <tramshed> from a guy who saw me equip uber weapons on a game when I shouldnt of been able to, hehe
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17:58 <Lucifer_arma> epsy: sorry, I was fixing something, I"ll get the brackets up tonight
18:00 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: sent
18:02 <Lucifer_arma> #q
18:02 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #3: "um, try spelling it wirght :) -- Lucifer" (added by Lucifer_arma at 06:22 AM, March 27, 2006)
18:03 <Lucifer_arma> #q
18:03 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #1: "Was this compiled by our friend Sum Ting Wong? --WallyWallWhackr" (added by Lucifer_arma at 06:37 AM, March 24, 2006)
18:06 <Lucifer_arma> #q
18:06 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #32: "i2020> sure you can... who told you that, little lukie wookie" (added by spidey at 07:34 PM, November 05, 2006)
18:16 * digitx is away (bye)
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18:30 <MrBougo> bbl
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19:09 <spidey> dude
19:10 <spidey> there's about 6 wireless hotspots in town unpretected
19:17 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: thanks, got it :)
19:37 -!- P4 is now known as P4|away
19:46 <GodTodd> man, i hate/love finals week :/
19:47 <GodTodd> #later tell DrJoeTron *boing boing boing*
19:47 <armabot> GodTodd: The operation succeeded.
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20:35 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
20:35 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 74°F / 23°C | Humidity: 22% | Pressure: 29.77in / 1008hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 25mph / 41km/h | Updated: 3:00 PM ADT; Today - Sunny. Wind northwest 40 km/h (25 mph) gusting to 70 km/h (43 mph) diminishing to 20 km/h (12 mph) gusting to 40 km/h (25 mph) this afternoon. High 20C(68F). UV index 7 or high.; Tonight - A few clouds. Wind (1 more message)
20:36 <Vanhayes> #more
20:36 <armabot> Vanhayes: northwest 20 km/h (12 mph) gusting to 40 km/h (25 mph) becoming light this evening. Low 11C(52F).; Friday - Sunny. High 25C(77F) except 21C(70F) along the fundy coast.;
20:42 <Lucifer_arma> unpretected? holy shit, there's no pretects on them!
20:42 * Lucifer_arma wonders if spidey's speech also has bad spelling, or if it's just his typing
20:45 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
20:45 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: timed out
20:45 <Lucifer_arma> jerk
20:45 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
20:45 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 93.0°F (1:50 PM CDT on August 09, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 64.4°F. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Falling).
20:45 <Lucifer_arma> thank you
20:46 <Lucifer_arma> time to turn on the ceiling fan
20:46 <Lucifer_arma> wait, barometer's falling? That means a storm's blowing in, doesn't it?
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21:17 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.mp3newswire.net/stories/7002/record-industry-pr.html <--- a pretty good summary of the fight, to date, I think
21:18 <MrBougo> hello
21:18 <digitx> -_
21:18 <digitx> -
21:21 <MrBougo> ?
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21:41 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
21:41 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Near Custer and Parker, Plano, Texas is 96.8°F (2:45 PM CDT on August 09, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 66.2°F. Pressure: 29.29 in 991.8 hPa (Falling).
21:41 <spidey> #weather 38256
21:41 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 100.9°F (2:46 PM CDT on August 09, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 29%. Dew Point: 62.6°F. Pressure: 29.84 in 1010.4 hPa (Steady). Heat advisory in effect until 8 PM CDT this evening...
21:41 <spidey> whoa
21:41 <spidey> it's so hot :(
21:43 <Tramshed__> #weather 49117
21:43 <armabot> Tramshed__: The current temperature in Beacher, 10th/Franklin St, Michigan City, Indiana is 84.0°F (2:47 PM CDT on August 09, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 71.6°F. Pressure: 29.81 in 1009.4 hPa (Falling).
21:43 -!- Tramshed__ is now known as tramshed
21:44 <GodTodd> #weather 85205
21:45 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Mesa, Arizona is 96.8°F (11:47 AM MST on August 09, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 22%. Dew Point: 51.8°F. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Falling).
21:46 <GodTodd> #weather 88310
21:46 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Alamogordo, New Mexico is 95.0°F (1:35 PM MDT on August 09, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 28%. Dew Point: 57.2°F. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
21:52 <noob7> #weather kerry, ireland
21:52 <armabot> noob7: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
21:52 <noob7> right... because there is no weather in ireland or what?
21:52 <noob7> #weather ireland
21:53 <armabot> noob7: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
21:53 <noob7> #weather dublin
21:53 <armabot> noob7: Temperature: 61°F / 16°C | Humidity: 82% | Pressure: 30.09in / 1019hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 13mph / 20km/h | Updated: 8:30 PM IST; Chance of Rain. High:68 ° F. / 20 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:53 ° F. / 12 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. High:66 ° F. / 19 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:53 ° F. / 12 ° C.; Chance of Rain. High:64 ° F. / 18 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:51 ° (1 more message)
21:53 <noob7> thats on the wrong side of the island tho
22:01 <GodTodd> #plano
22:01 <armabot> The current temperature in Near Custer and Parker, Plano, Texas is 97.3°F (3:05 PM CDT on August 09, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: 66.2°F. Pressure: 29.26 in 990.7 hPa (Falling).
22:01 <GodTodd> #seen ghableska
22:01 <armabot> GodTodd: ghableska was last seen in #armagetron 1 week, 4 days, 23 hours, 15 minutes, and 24 seconds ago: <ghableska> #tea
22:01 <GodTodd> #seen n54
22:01 <armabot> GodTodd: n54 was last seen in #armagetron 1 year, 8 weeks, 2 days, 17 hours, 14 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: <n54> hi mom :)
22:02 <Lucifer_arma> irish are too primitive to have enough weather stations for web weather to work right
22:02 <Lucifer_arma> don't they still eat people over there?
22:02 <GodTodd> just scots
22:02 <Lucifer_arma> well that's not too bad, scots are food, after all
22:03 <Lucifer_arma> I consider any culture that regularly marinates itself to be food :)
22:03 <GodTodd> haha
22:03 <Lucifer_arma> (where's 2020 when you need him?)
22:03 <GodTodd> isn't that:
22:03 <GodTodd> where's 2020
22:03 <GodTodd> when
22:03 <GodTodd> you need
22:03 <GodTodd> him?
22:04 <Lucifer_arma> no
22:04 <Lucifer_arma> it's:
22:04 <Lucifer_arma> where's 2020
22:04 <Lucifer_arma> when you need him
22:04 <Lucifer_arma> ?
22:04 <Lucifer_arma> it's not random
22:04 <Lucifer_arma> what he does
22:04 <Lucifer_arma> he puts a new phrase
22:04 <Lucifer_arma> on every line
22:04 <Lucifer_arma> so each line by itself
22:04 <Lucifer_arma> makes a little sense
22:04 <Lucifer_arma> (
22:04 <Lucifer_arma> but altogether
22:05 <Lucifer_arma> no sense can be made
22:05 <Lucifer_arma> )
22:05 <Lucifer_arma> .
22:05 <GodTodd> heh
22:05 <Lucifer_arma> it's kinda like an ascii version of presidential speeches, if you think about it.
22:05 <Lucifer_arma> every phrase is broken up by dramatic pauses, presumably for applause
22:05 * GodTodd is happy he has it set up now to let people email at his domain.
22:06 <Lucifer_arma> well, I probably won't forget your email address anymore :)
22:06 * GodTodd applauds bush all the time
22:06 <GodTodd> anyone that can be that stupid and end up the leader of the free world deserves some kind of kudos
22:06 <Lucifer_arma> hey, the more I think about it, the more I think that going to Iraq was a Very Good Move if you're wanting to defeat al-qaeda and don't give a shit about Iraq
22:07 <GodTodd> though i think some of it is a Reaganesque act
22:07 <Lucifer_arma> it just strikes me far too much as the "How to defeat the AI" in freeciv
22:07 <Lucifer_arma> remember in 2.0 how we'd just fortify a bunch of units outside one AI city and then invade through another spot?
22:07 <Lucifer_arma> AI would get confused, couldn't allocate resources properly
22:07 <GodTodd> yeah....bait and switch
22:08 <GodTodd> kind of like when hitler outsmarted himself at normandy
22:08 <Lucifer_arma> often we'd eventually talk an ally into maintaining the distraction force
22:08 <Lucifer_arma> (such as, I don't know, NATO taking over in Afghanistan)
22:08 <Lucifer_arma> and that distraction force would often be put near a capital
22:09 <GodTodd> i don't know that i like russia being so aggressive so soon, though
22:09 <GodTodd> they aren't fucking around with georgia
22:09 <Lucifer_arma> problem is, al-qaeda's incarnation in freeciv isn't as a civilization, it's as barbs, and strategies you'd use against a civilization don't work against barbs
22:09 <Lucifer_arma> I think georgia is setting them up
22:09 <GodTodd> possibly
22:09 <Lucifer_arma> I could be wrong, but I think it's still a little too early for Russia to be all aggressive
22:09 <GodTodd> or....
22:09 <GodTodd> maybe they're working together somehow
22:10 <GodTodd> thinking that the UN will *have* to do something
22:10 <Lucifer_arma> nah, georgia wants to join NATO and Russia doesn't want that
22:10 <Lucifer_arma> I think georgia's on our side, so they've set up this bluff to call Russia's hand before they're ready
22:11 <GodTodd> and while china kills the next generation of americans with poisoned elmos....the UN is too busy to help when we stretch too thin in iran and russia kills the adults :)
22:11 <Lucifer_arma> next, Bush is going to get a popup that says "Georgia would like to propose an alliance" with a message in his console that says "May we propose a join campaign against the evil Russians?"
22:12 <Lucifer_arma> and this is more like Luke is running the US and Spidey's running Russia, so we're fucked
22:12 <spidey> hahah
22:13 <spidey> i like that
22:13 <GodTodd> hrmm...purportedly religious right wing loon running the US....i don't see the connection to luke ;)
22:13 <Lucifer_arma> maybe if you forgot he's a true blue catholic?
22:13 <spidey> speaking of
22:14 <spidey> anyone wanna get a civ game going tonighT?
22:14 <spidey> been ages since i played
22:14 <Lucifer_arma> otoh, it's entirely possible that they're getting ready to attack
22:14 <GodTodd> oh yeah...the ones that say "thou shalt not kill, unless i decide to shoot you and call it self defese"
22:14 <Lucifer_arma> no, if I'm going to play freeciv, it's after GodTodd has finished his finals
22:14 <spidey> lol
22:14 <spidey> y
22:14 <Lucifer_arma> but see, check this out
22:14 <spidey> GodTodd, get to work
22:14 <spidey> now
22:14 <GodTodd> i start my final in 3 hours
22:14 <luke-jr> I'm up for civ
22:14 <spidey> we know..
22:14 <Lucifer_arma> if they're getting ready for an attack, the best time to hit is right when the US starts withdrawing from Iraq, or otherwise decreasing troop count there
22:14 <spidey> so you can get pwned, and cry the whole time
22:14 <spidey> but, who else?
22:15 <GodTodd> til he starts losing and leaves ;)
22:15 <spidey> lol
22:15 <Lucifer_arma> so Iran invades Iraq at that time, and Russia hits Georgia (which is one of the territories I was talking about Russia wanting)
22:15 <spidey> i remember this one time
22:15 <Lucifer_arma> maybe an al-qaeda attack on the US to either kick it off, or soon after the fighting starts
22:15 <spidey> me and luci made a secret nap
22:16 <spidey> and i allied lke
22:16 <spidey> luke* so luke was like, spidey's got my back! time to trash mouth luci!
22:16 <GodTodd> i like public naps
22:17 <Lucifer_arma> that the game where I was holding luke off and wasting his buddy?
22:17 <spidey> no
22:17 <spidey> it was just us 3
22:17 <spidey> small map
22:17 <spidey> luke was in the middle of us
22:17 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmm, lots of islands?
22:17 <spidey> i think so
22:17 <Lucifer_arma> lots of ais, too?
22:17 <spidey> maybe
22:17 <spidey> but i think it was just us
22:18 <Lucifer_arma> and the ai hit you, so I went down and took over that ai and then gave you their home island?
22:18 <spidey> yea
22:18 <spidey> that's the one
22:18 <spidey> but secretly
22:18 <spidey> i was planning to hit you both
22:18 <Lucifer_arma> I remember that one, and I actually think sweden was going to wipe us out :)
22:18 <spidey> because i'd been preparing for it :D
22:18 <spidey> i figured
22:18 <spidey> "luci's gonna attack luke, then we'll be the only ones left"
22:18 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, but sweden had gotten huge while we were fighting our little wars and doing our politicking
22:19 <Lucifer_arma> but we can make our alliance known before it's all over so that we don't have to fight each other :)
22:19 <spidey> GodTodd, will you finish your finals today?
22:19 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, indeed
22:19 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, i remember towards the end of my freeciv era
22:20 <spidey> i figured out how to have a large civ, large income, large military, large science rate
22:20 <spidey> and still keep the people happy
22:20 <Lucifer_arma> didn't I show you that? ;)
22:20 <spidey> don't think so
22:20 <Lucifer_arma> the trick is to be communist, surprisingly enough
22:20 <GodTodd> spidey: i sure hope so...if it's a multi-day calc final then i will probably fail ;)
22:20 <spidey> good
22:20 <spidey> so, civ tonight? :D
22:20 <Lucifer_arma> it's possible we both independently figured it out at the same time
22:21 <spidey> yea
22:21 <Lucifer_arma> no, I've gotta wake up early to take my kid to a doctor's appointment
22:21 <spidey> here's what i do
22:21 <Lucifer_arma> monday's the first time I'll have a real opportunity for it
22:21 <spidey> terraform shitty land/ keep some desert for production
22:21 <spidey> build irrigation and rails everywhere
22:21 <spidey> and build the economic wonders
22:21 <Lucifer_arma> I found that switching to communism and putting all your low production cities on max science/max gold and coinage gets your income straight
22:21 <Lucifer_arma> and just keep increasing your city count somehow
22:22 <spidey> i base my income on 1 wonder and rails
22:22 <spidey> the wonder where i can put everything that costs 1 gold for free
22:22 <Lucifer_arma> trading center
22:22 <spidey> yup
22:22 <spidey> that's the key wonder
22:22 <Lucifer_arma> I like hoover dam more than that :)
22:23 <Lucifer_arma> I think hoover dam is the key wonder, because it means when you conquer a 10 shield city you can usually just buy a factory, 1/2 turns for barracks, and start producing fighting units at the front
22:23 <spidey> but
22:23 <Lucifer_arma> start switching home cities out for other units, usually the more expensive ones like bombers and shit
22:23 <spidey> if you setup right, with trading center, you can buy high price units every round
22:24 <spidey> but trading center + hoover dam = unstopable
22:24 <Lucifer_arma> so we don't do the same thing, we found alternate paths to the same end :)
22:24 <Lucifer_arma> I also like to conquer other people's wonders
22:24 <spidey> i remember you stole like 7 wonders from luke
22:24 <spidey> because he built them all in the same city
22:25 <Lucifer_arma> if that's the game I think it is, he retook the city and destroyed it :)
22:25 <spidey> yea
22:25 <spidey> better than him having them though :p
22:25 <Lucifer_arma> the one where I sneak attacked him after checking the wonders dialog?
22:25 <spidey> yea
22:25 <Lucifer_arma> and it was sooo obvious I was setting up for it
22:25 <spidey> " oh, i'm just protecting you"
22:25 <spidey> if you surround my city
22:25 <spidey> and i'm not at war
22:25 <spidey> i'm going to be at war...
22:26 <Lucifer_arma> when he realized he was going to spend the rest of the game on the run, he quit :(
22:26 <Lucifer_arma> well, I didn't land anybody, I was building a naval blockade
22:26 <GodTodd> yeah...he does that
22:26 <spidey> heh
22:26 <Lucifer_arma> so it was possible I was trying to protect him, it's just that the ring of ships I give you counts the other way too
22:26 <GodTodd> that's why i went to refusing to play freeciv if luke was playing :)
22:26 <Lucifer_arma> one of the reasons I try to get you guys to replace my ships with your own, mine are supposed to be temporary
22:27 <spidey> dude
22:27 <spidey> luci
22:27 <spidey> you remember that game where the ai worked together?
22:27 <spidey> and i had 2 continents to myself
22:27 <spidey> the first 2.0 game i played, i think
22:27 <Lucifer_arma> heh, hey, you remember that game where we built that really long fucking line of ships that was a perfect square?
22:27 <Lucifer_arma> we might be talking about the same game
22:27 <spidey> fuck ya
22:27 <spidey> that thing was LONG
22:27 <spidey> no
22:28 <spidey> that game was a trading router
22:28 <Lucifer_arma> on islands opposite each other, and we had to build the really long line of ships that was like 2 ships deep
22:28 <spidey> actually, we've did that on more than one game
22:28 <spidey> but the one you're talking about is different
22:28 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, but I think that was the most tonnage we've ever laid out
22:28 <spidey> heh
22:28 <spidey> well
22:28 <Lucifer_arma> by the time we called it quits you had half of the line yourself and I had the other half
22:28 <spidey> after i resumed this save i'm talking about
22:28 <spidey> i managed a navy of 100+ battleships
22:28 <Lucifer_arma> oh wait, this is the one you were fighting antarctica?
22:29 <spidey> erm
22:29 <Lucifer_arma> where they kept sending stacks of like 50 units at you?
22:29 <spidey> yea
22:29 <Lucifer_arma> that was a fun game, man
22:29 <spidey> indeed
22:29 <spidey> the ai's atleast acted like allys then
22:29 <Lucifer_arma> you and mom were both getting hit, and I had to send ground units to mom and sea units to you
22:29 <spidey> they would have owned me if it wasn't for them attacking near the ocean
22:30 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I remember having one battleship up there that every turn took out 2-3 stacks of units, and that barely dented them
22:30 <spidey> i swear we killed over 500 units
22:30 <spidey> in 10 rounds
22:30 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, and they kept sending them :)
22:30 <Lucifer_arma> we resumed it together, if you remember, and managed to see the end of it
22:31 <Lucifer_arma> then quit when it got hideously tedious
22:31 <spidey> yea
22:31 <Lucifer_arma> freeciv's weird. all the fun is in the middle 4 hours of the game
22:31 <spidey> yea
22:31 <Lucifer_arma> the first 4 hours are boring as hell, unless you do a lot of trash talking, and then the last 30 hours are boring and tedious
22:31 <spidey> back then
22:31 <spidey> you and me on a team, i doubt there was many that could beat us..heh
22:32 <Lucifer_arma> except the one time we did it, we got trashed, haha
22:32 <spidey> yea
22:32 <spidey> that was stupid tho
22:32 <spidey> us vs6 and we got different ends of the map
22:32 <Lucifer_arma> we were on glaciers! They had all this sunny crap and all sorts of good resources and shit
22:32 <luke-jr> speaching of which
22:32 <spidey> yea
22:32 <luke-jr> crap, I'm down to 1 city on LT
22:32 <Lucifer_arma> as much as I want to say we could have won, I'm having a hard time seeing it, still
22:33 <spidey> if we was on the same island
22:33 <spidey> i bet we could have
22:33 <spidey> we held out pretty well
22:33 <spidey> plus, they'd never have beaten me
22:33 <Lucifer_arma> it was all that time early in the game where we couldn't contact each other with units because we couldn't get enough science to figure out triremes
22:33 <spidey> my capital was in the middle of a glacier
22:33 <spidey> with anti aircraft guns
22:33 <Lucifer_arma> we should try it again on an all-temperate map
22:34 <spidey> yea
22:34 <Lucifer_arma> with no wrapping
22:34 <spidey> yup
22:34 <luke-jr> no wrapping is lame :p
22:34 <spidey> luke-jr is lame
22:34 <luke-jr> spidey is lame too
22:34 <Lucifer_arma> oh hell, we could just use the world map
22:34 <spidey> i claim mexico
22:34 <spidey> amd aistralia
22:34 <Lucifer_arma> we could pick america, or we could pick asia and they get america
22:34 <spidey> australia
22:35 <spidey> asia works :)
22:35 <Lucifer_arma> well, if you take the incas, you can move into australia pretty quickly
22:35 <Lucifer_arma> personally I'd rather start in asia, I like their setup much better
22:35 <spidey> yea
22:35 <spidey> plus more land :)
22:35 <Lucifer_arma> yep
22:35 <spidey> we could smallpox, then largepox the fuck out of it
22:35 <Lucifer_arma> more cities per navy unit
22:35 <spidey> 50 cities at size 12 ftw
22:36 <Lucifer_arma> well, on the one hand, we'd have much more land than them, but this is assuming they outnumber us
22:36 <Lucifer_arma> if there's 4 of them, we need twice as much available land to "even the odds"
22:36 <spidey> nah
22:36 <Lucifer_arma> if we play in 2.1, we could setup an ai to be africa and another 1-2 in europe
22:36 <spidey> we'd do well with 20 cities
22:36 <luke-jr> does the world map even work in civ 2.1
22:36 <luke-jr> ?
22:37 <Lucifer_arma> true, and they can settle other places too, I'm just talking what can be done without ships
22:37 <spidey> 20 cities = 100 units
22:37 <Lucifer_arma> but anyway, drop a line of ais down the middle of the map to act as a buffer
22:37 <tramshed> what aer you fuckers playin?
22:37 <spidey> 100 units consentrated = ownage :D
22:37 * luke-jr glances at the n00b
22:37 <Lucifer_arma> tramshed: nothing right now, just talking about how bad a freeciv player luke is
22:37 <tramshed> hah
22:37 <spidey> stop talking about yourself like that luke...
22:38 <GodTodd> luke-jr is lame
22:38 <Lucifer_arma> actually, in 2.1 they randomize spawn points on the world map
22:38 <Lucifer_arma> so you can't jocky for map position anymore
22:39 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, if we're going to play, monday's the day for me
22:39 <spidey> k
22:39 <Lucifer_arma> start early, like around 4pm, and I'll host it
22:39 <luke-jr> not tonight?
22:39 <Lucifer_arma> then I can play until 9pm or so
22:39 <Lucifer_arma> don't know when we can restore after that, though
22:40 <spidey> that's all we need
22:40 <Lucifer_arma> but if I drop out of the game I can post the savegame so y'all can take it over
22:40 <GodTodd> the integral of ln(n) is 1/x....or is it the derivative?
22:40 <spidey> i'll use the pwn with warriors and horsemen tatic
22:40 <spidey> :)
22:40 <Lucifer_arma> derivative. ln(x) can't be integrated simply, you have to do it by parts
22:40 <GodTodd> ok
22:40 <luke-jr> spidey: practice tonight?
22:41 * spidey remembers the time he had tons of elite warriors and horsemen
22:41 <Lucifer_arma> man, that game sucked and ruled at the same time
22:41 <spidey> yea
22:41 <Lucifer_arma> that's the one where you got hit by the ai real early and just pwned him with worthless shit, right?
22:41 <Lucifer_arma> you were on the left, I was on the right, and mom was in the middle?
22:41 <spidey> no
22:41 <spidey> and yes
22:41 <spidey> he started settling my land, and was a ally
22:42 <Lucifer_arma> oh, maybe you were the aggressor
22:42 <spidey> so i was like "gtfo out of my land ggkthnx"
22:42 <GodTodd> by parts...that's the uv-(Integral)vdu right?
22:42 <Lucifer_arma> yep
22:42 <GodTodd> k
22:42 <GodTodd> now i have to remember how i get u and v ;)
22:42 <GodTodd> heh
22:42 <spidey> s+t=uv
22:43 <spidey> u-v = t
22:43 <spidey> u+v = w
22:43 <Lucifer_arma> didn't we have another one of luke's flunkie friends in that game?
22:43 <spidey> yea
22:43 <GodTodd> oh yeah...normal u-substitution and then "what's left after taking u" is dv
22:43 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: er, no?
22:44 <Lucifer_arma> integral( ln(x) )dx
22:44 <Lucifer_arma> u = ln(x), v = dx
22:44 <spidey> nickleback - animals
22:44 <spidey> <3
22:44 <Lucifer_arma> du/dx = 1/x, v = x (integrate dx and you get x)
22:44 <GodTodd> dv would be dx
22:44 <GodTodd> and v would be x
22:44 <Lucifer_arma> ok, fine
22:44 <spidey> speaking of
22:44 <Lucifer_arma> but it's not a u substitution is my point :)
22:44 <spidey> they put me on probation
22:45 <spidey> and extended my deadline
22:45 <Lucifer_arma> what for?
22:45 <spidey> because i'm "slow"
22:45 <Lucifer_arma> academic probation?
22:45 <spidey> but prealgerbra bores me
22:45 <spidey> yea
22:45 <Lucifer_arma> that's because it's boring
22:45 <GodTodd> when you let u equal a function, my mind sees it as u sub :P
22:45 <Lucifer_arma> math doesn't get exciting until trig
22:45 <Lucifer_arma> ah, ok
22:45 <spidey> it's like
22:45 <GodTodd> that's how i remember it
22:45 <GodTodd> :)
22:45 <spidey> hey, what's 10^10?!
22:45 <Lucifer_arma> but this isn't quite that, so don't get screwed up. :) It's just a formula, like the quadratic formula or something
22:46 <GodTodd> nah...i don't get it screwed up
22:46 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: 1 x 10^10
22:46 * Lucifer_arma loves scientific notation
22:46 <spidey> i had that in like
22:46 <spidey> 7th grade
22:46 <spidey> so this excuse for 10th grade math is sad
22:46 <GodTodd> i really shouldn't stress too much...i need like a 45 for a C
22:47 <Lucifer_arma> do some hard math, then
22:47 <Lucifer_arma> integrate ln(x) for godtodd
22:47 <GodTodd> haha
22:47 <spidey> heh
22:47 <spidey> well
22:47 <GodTodd> i'll only have to do that for a series test for convergence
22:47 <GodTodd> :)
22:47 <Lucifer_arma> I think they should teach calculus before they teach algebra, but I can't imagine how you'd do that without the notation from algebra
22:48 <Lucifer_arma> which means you have to learn algebra for the notation :/
22:48 <spidey> lol
22:48 <GodTodd> Sum as n->infinity of 1/(n(ln (n))^3)
22:48 <GodTodd> er n goes from 3->infinity
22:49 <Lucifer_arma> epsilon sum, not integral, right?
22:49 <GodTodd> yeah
22:49 <Lucifer_arma> sure you'll have to use the integral test on it?
22:49 <GodTodd> the big e
22:49 <GodTodd> he said we do
22:49 <Lucifer_arma> jerk
22:49 <Lucifer_arma> what do I know, I didn't do too well testing for divergence
22:49 <spidey> your encryption is premitive egyptian!
22:49 <luke-jr> spidey: practice tonight?
22:50 <Lucifer_arma> where the fuck is my wife?
22:50 <GodTodd> i suppose i should have known since u=ln n so du =1/n
22:50 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: my place
22:50 <Lucifer_arma> she says she gets off at 2:30, and it takes 10 minutes to drive home
22:50 <Lucifer_arma> where the fuck is she?
22:50 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, getting the works
22:50 -!- epsy [n=epsy@mar75-4-82-227-65-72.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
22:50 <spidey> D:
22:50 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: the reason you do that by parts is because you can take the derivative of ln(x) and make it go away :)
22:50 <spidey> luke-jr, no can do
22:51 <spidey> luke-jr, i have 2 servers with 64 players of assholes to mod
22:51 <Lucifer_arma> you use parts when you have f(x)g(x)dx and you can't integrate either f or g, so you do it by parts to get rid of the one you can't integrate
22:51 <Lucifer_arma> at least, that's one reason for using parts
22:51 <GodTodd> so you get Integral(u^3)du
22:51 <luke-jr> spidey: I think you misunderstood me
22:51 <Lucifer_arma> which is pretty trivial :)
22:51 <luke-jr> spidey: there wasn't a real choice there
22:51 <GodTodd> which is u^4/4
22:51 <luke-jr> I was just asking to be polite
22:51 <GodTodd> which is ln(n)^4/44
22:52 <spidey> ...
22:52 <GodTodd> er 4 not 44 :)
22:52 <spidey> in either case
22:52 <spidey> the answer is go fuck yourself :D
22:52 <Lucifer_arma> ok, fine, I'll find out
22:52 <Lucifer_arma> #last --from luke-jr --nolimit
22:52 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: [22:56:25] <luke-jr> I was just asking to be polite, [22:56:09] <luke-jr> spidey: there wasn't a real choice there, [22:56:02] <luke-jr> spidey: I think you misunderstood me, [22:54:41] <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: my place, [22:54:28] <luke-jr> spidey: practice tonight?, [22:45:26] <luke-jr> spidey: practice tonight?, [22:44:09] <luke-jr> not tonight?, [22:42:07] * luke-jr glances at the (14 more messages)
22:53 * Lucifer_arma quietly points out you can practice against ais
22:53 <GodTodd> just luke-jr thinking he had some Net.Control since he can't control his own life :)
22:53 <luke-jr> no, cuz AIs beat me differently than you all
22:53 <spidey> ROFL
22:53 <spidey> luci you got luke ignored?
22:53 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, have for awhile
22:54 <spidey> then i'll copy/paste
22:54 <spidey> <luke-jr> no, cuz AIs beat me differently than you all
22:54 <spidey> <spidey> ROFL
22:54 <Lucifer_arma> haha
22:54 <GodTodd> that's like saying you shouldn't do math homework since the test problems might be different
22:54 <spidey> GodTodd, damn you, now i have to find another excuse...
22:54 <Lucifer_arma> heh
22:55 <Lucifer_arma> I was thinking he might have better luck watching Star Trek 2 or something
22:55 <spidey> lol
22:55 <GodTodd> you learn the right techniques and it doesn't matter who it is or how they play
22:55 <Lucifer_arma> or a nice long documentary on WW2
22:55 <spidey> luke
22:55 <spidey> simply put
22:55 <spidey> if the ai beats you
22:55 <Lucifer_arma> better yet, luke-jr, go read the military history pages on wikipedia, and then spend some time against the ais
22:55 <spidey> you shouldn't play with us...after we blow the dust off our cannons,that is
22:55 <GodTodd> i think i trained Lucifer_arma for freeciv a long time ago with marathon rounds of axis and allies ;)
22:56 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know what I did more when we were playing a lot, playing freeciv or reading military history on wikipedia
22:56 <spidey> heh
22:56 <Lucifer_arma> heh. I always complained axis and allies lacked the stuff I wanted, too. :)
22:56 <GodTodd> yep
22:56 <GodTodd> and the setup took a long time
22:56 <Lucifer_arma> I suspect it was all those years we spent playing chess at every opportunity
22:56 <GodTodd> that too
22:56 <spidey> <3 chess
22:57 <Lucifer_arma> does luke like chess?
22:57 <spidey> luke, do you like chess?
22:57 * GodTodd and Lucifer_arma used to play chess in class a lot.
22:57 <spidey> dude
22:57 <spidey> you ever played chess via email?
22:57 <Lucifer_arma> I have
22:57 <spidey> heh
22:57 <GodTodd> yeah...it's kind of like long term civ
22:57 <spidey> that was the weirdist game i ever played
22:57 <Lucifer_arma> so has GodTodd
22:57 <Lucifer_arma> I know because he was my opponent :)
22:58 <spidey> i used a real chessboard
22:58 <luke-jr> chess is cool
22:58 * spidey is a cheat :(
22:58 <spidey> luke-jr, so that's a yes?
22:58 <GodTodd> well...now i have to hate chess
22:58 <GodTodd> thanks luke-jr
22:58 <spidey> rofl
22:59 * spidey would pawn luke with pawns
22:59 <GodTodd> i think luke would fall for the 4 move mate :)
23:00 * GodTodd won 2 games in a row in a chess tournament with 8 total moves.
23:00 <spidey> what, move the pawn by the queen out 2 steps, then you move the one by the bishop out, then checkpwn? :o
23:00 <GodTodd> i think that round lasted 5 minutes.
23:01 <spidey> i remember
23:01 <GodTodd> i'd have to remember it
23:01 <spidey> i used to make forts in chess
23:01 <GodTodd> shouldn't be too hard to remember tho
23:01 <spidey> i'd move the pawns upward in a line
23:01 <spidey> then use bishops and horses to take incoming peoples :D
23:01 * digitx is away (bye)
23:02 <spidey> GodTodd, you have a yahoo account?
23:07 <GodTodd> yeah
23:08 <spidey> chess when you're done with finals? :d
23:08 <spidey> <jhaa> DMZ=?
23:08 <spidey> <Undeference> demilitarized zone
23:08 <spidey> lol
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23:09 <epsy> O_o
23:10 <epsy> Lucifer_arma, how did you generated the countdown voice ?
23:10 <digitx> o_O
23:11 <luke-jr> digitx: hungary
23:12 <digitx> * CTCP HUNGARY érkezett ettől: epsy
23:12 <digitx> * CTCP hungary érkezett ettől: luke-jr
23:12 <digitx> -.-
23:12 <digitx> luke-jr, i love u
23:12 <digitx> <3
23:12 <epsy> me neither
23:13 <epsy> digitx, you wanna fuck luke-jr ?
23:13 <luke-jr> epsy: no such thing
23:14 <epsy> there is in xchat
23:14 <epsy> :P
23:14 <digitx> epsy
23:14 <digitx> sure
23:14 <digitx> :)
23:14 <epsy> don't say me xchat is obsolete
23:14 <digitx> luke, when u have freetime?
23:14 * epsy bets luke-jr
23:14 <luke-jr> xchat is GTK
23:14 <digitx> luke, when u have freetime?
23:14 <luke-jr> digitx: no free time, only pay time
23:14 <digitx> i fu you
23:14 <digitx> pay time?
23:14 <epsy> don't tell me GTK+ is obsolete either
23:14 <digitx> o_O
23:14 * epsy bets luke-jr
23:14 <luke-jr> no
23:14 <luke-jr> GTK+ just sucks
23:14 <luke-jr> :)
23:14 <luke-jr> epsy: civ?
23:15 <epsy> O_o you never used any gtk app
23:15 <epsy> luke-jr, rofl i don't know how to play
23:15 <epsy> and i already made my gaming journey -_-
23:16 <digitx> luke i fuck you
23:16 <digitx> TOMMOROW?
23:16 <digitx> accept?
23:16 <digitx> hehe
23:16 <luke-jr> digitx: you die
23:16 <digitx> eheh
23:16 <digitx> :o
23:16 <digitx> i like karlsruhe
23:16 <luke-jr> epsy: I avoid gtk app
23:16 <digitx> luke dont use gtk apps
23:16 <digitx> ^^
23:17 <epsy> digitx, /ctcp epsy epsy
23:18 <epsy> narf my connection is getting shitty
23:20 <epsy> ping: unknown host google.com
23:20 <epsy> pretty nice
23:21 <epsy> PING 192.168.0.254 (192.168.0.254) 56(84) bytes of data.
23:21 <epsy> --- 192.168.0.254 ping statistics ---
23:21 <epsy> 4 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 3009ms
23:21 <epsy> my router sucks
23:21 <epsy> crashed again
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23:25 <epsy> did you read code hunter's lastet post ?
23:25 <epsy> it's funny
23:25 <epsy> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=191284#191284
23:26 <epsy> ahaha
23:26 <epsy> digitx, pwnt
23:26 <digitx> ?
23:26 <digitx> :)
23:26 <digitx> -epsy- EPSY nom de dieu de putain de bordel de merde de salopperie de connard d'enculé de ta mère
23:43 <epsy> :O
23:46 <GodTodd> quick...quotient rule for differentiation....
23:46 <GodTodd> :/
23:46 <GodTodd> nvm
23:46 <GodTodd> vdu-udv/v^2
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01:00 <epsy> omgnoobplzdienstfuthx2u
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01:11 <epsy> * |Sticky| est parti (Excess Flood)
01:11 <epsy> |Sticky|, really ? xD
01:31 <epsy> PING google.com (64.233.187.99) 56(84) bytes of data.
01:31 <epsy> 64 bytes from jc-in-f99.google.com (64.233.187.99): icmp_seq=1 ttl=240 time=139 ms
01:31 <epsy> 64 bytes from jc-in-f99.google.com (64.233.187.99): icmp_seq=2 ttl=240 time=133 ms
01:31 <epsy> 64 bytes from jc-in-f99.google.com (64.233.187.99): icmp_seq=3 ttl=240 time=133 ms
01:31 <epsy> 64 bytes from jc-in-f99.google.com (64.233.187.99): icmp_seq=4 ttl=240 time=150 ms
01:31 <epsy> --- google.com ping statistics ---
01:31 <epsy> 4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 3026ms
01:31 <epsy> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 133.546/139.346/150.267/6.768 ms
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02:25 <Stewie-Arma> so what's this about h2h making a "hacked" version of arma?
02:34 <Lucifer_arma> boy are you a chapter behind or what?
02:34 <Stewie-Arma> I am a chapter behind
02:34 <Stewie-Arma> or did you miss that?
02:35 <Lucifer_arma> heh
02:35 <Stewie-Arma> I'm only on chapter 12
02:35 <Lucifer_arma> well, we don't actually know what they did, because Code Hunter (hopes he finds this with google) changed his story, always to make himself look like the victim
02:35 <Stewie-Arma> haha yeah he does, him and his brother (nightmare) are always sketchy
02:35 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, first they said they made a custom build of arma that randomly changed your color every round
02:36 <Lucifer_arma> they put it up on their site with a notice saying "this download copyright blah by blah, if you tell people about it, you promise to send them here to get it"
02:36 <Stewie-Arma> lolz
02:36 <Lucifer_arma> which, of course, infringes on some copyrights and violates the GPL
02:37 <Stewie-Arma> did z-man threaten to sue?
02:37 <Lucifer_arma> so we chewed at him, and he fixed the notice, but didn't give up the source still
02:37 <Lucifer_arma> and at that point he changed his story to "I just found this somewhere and thought people would like it"
02:37 <Stewie-Arma> lol
02:37 <Lucifer_arma> I think he pulled the download eventually because he didn't have the source
02:37 <Lucifer_arma> he was posing as a programmer again
02:38 <Lucifer_arma> nobody threatened to sue, we just bitched loudly. I put a notice on the wiki for a little while about it.
02:38 <Stewie-Arma> awww
02:38 <Lucifer_arma> there's a forum thread that has most of the discussion if you want to dig it up
02:38 <Stewie-Arma> was it in general?
02:39 <Lucifer_arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=17751
02:48 <Stewie-Arma> he still didn't give the binary...
02:50 <Stewie-Arma> but still many lulz to him for trying to act as a programmer.
02:50 <Lucifer_arma> he gave the binary, but removed it. If you want to see it, it's attached to one of my posts
02:50 <Stewie-Arma> orly??? I'll check again
02:51 <Stewie-Arma> oh 3rd reply lol how did I miss that
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02:54 <Lucifer_arma> heh, hey that's the one where I got bitchy with him :)
02:55 <Stewie-Arma> Lucifer props on the: "that's just more of his 10 PRINT "Hello, World!" I'm a programmer mentality." line
02:55 <Lucifer_arma> but in the notice on the wiki, I put something to the effect of "they haven't given us the source, so they may have a keylogger or some other thing"
02:55 <Lucifer_arma> heh, thanks
02:55 <Lucifer_arma> gotta go now, going home
02:55 <Lucifer_arma> bbiab
02:55 <Stewie-Arma> yeah wrtl put that warning on MBC forums too
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03:01 * digitx is away (bye)
03:15 <P4> #lastseen subli
03:15 <armabot> P4: SuBlImInAl.FreQ has last been seen on Chico's Brake Boost Styball 1 minute ago.
03:23 <Vanhayes> So did a freeciv game get started or no?
03:23 <Vanhayes> and if no does anyone want to start one?
03:23 <Stewie-Arma> I haven't gotten to used to the difference between freeciv and civ II
03:25 <Vanhayes> never played civ 2, have had freeciv for almost three years now, and somehow civ 3 randomly got onto this computer half a year ago or so
03:25 <Stewie-Arma> lol
03:25 <Stewie-Arma> does anyone else use your computer?
03:26 <Vanhayes> ya, this is the "family" one
03:26 <Vanhayes> im usually the only one that uses it though, since my sister got a lappy
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04:04 * GodTodd has 3 computers that only he uses.
04:55 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: I'm playing one
04:55 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: pwning Novice AI
04:55 <luke-jr> x5
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04:56 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: but too late to start a game now
04:56 <Vanhayes> 5 novice ai isnt that hard
04:56 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: you're welcome to take over one
04:56 <Vanhayes> ya, we should get one going sometime soon though
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04:57 <Vanhayes> I want to get at least one more big game of civ before I head out west
04:57 <luke-jr> ?
04:57 <Lucifer_arma> heh, monday's not looking good from a certain point of view
04:58 <Lucifer_arma> anybody here able to play freeciv during the day?
04:58 <luke-jr> like when?
04:58 <Vanhayes> depends on the day
04:58 <Lucifer_arma> any day, my wife works during the day, so I have to babysit
04:58 <Lucifer_arma> meaning I can't play all night at all, and most nights it would be a bad idea
04:59 <Lucifer_arma> tonight doubly so, but I may be able to play tomorrow night
04:59 <Lucifer_arma> I'm probably not going to work next week, and if I do, it'll be actual active work for a couple of hours a pop
05:00 <luke-jr> tomorrow evening works for me
05:00 <Vanhayes> depends on the time of day too, for me, most nights I work till 9 here so I'm not sure when that is there
05:00 <Lucifer_arma> eugenics isn't likely to be playable for awhile yet, so I'm willing to grab some freeciv during the intercession, but that's it!
05:00 <luke-jr> next week evenings ideal
05:00 <Lucifer_arma> I'm in CDT
05:00 <Lucifer_arma> right now it's 10:08pm
05:00 <Vanhayes> ah ok, 2 hours behinf me
05:00 <Vanhayes> behind*
05:00 <Lucifer_arma> I get out of bed around 9am, and would have to be able to stop from time to time to feed my kids
05:00 <Lucifer_arma> my kids are probably too young to get them to play freeciv with me
05:01 <Lucifer_arma> even though I have enough computers running now to have 2 more people in my house play, it'll be a few years before they're ready :)
05:01 <Lucifer_arma> hopefully eugenics will be ready before my kids are ready for it
05:02 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, I'd have to cut off around 2pm at the latest
05:02 <Lucifer_arma> 2-3 hour shots are probably best for me
05:02 <luke-jr> eck
05:02 <Lucifer_arma> and if luke's playing, and I'm playing, then I'm hosting :)
05:03 <Vanhayes> hmm, i work mornings wendsdays, so that'd be the best for your times, for me
05:03 <Lucifer_arma> I could probably play a couple of hours tonight, but I'd have to stop for sure no later than 1am my time
05:03 <Vanhayes> I usually get off around 12 or 1 here so thats either 10 or 11 there
05:03 <Lucifer_arma> at the rate we start a game, that means we'd have an hour to play
05:03 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: feel free, I'm not setup to host here
05:03 <Lucifer_arma> I have to do AFL brackets right now, before I do anything else
05:04 <Vanhayes> spidey: GodTodd up for a little freeciv tonight?
05:04 <Vanhayes> Id be willing to at least start a game tonight
05:05 <Vanhayes> it would save an hour of set-up later on
05:05 <Lucifer_arma> that's true
05:05 <Lucifer_arma> see what you can come up with, and remember I'm ignoring luke, so if he wants to play, I won't be able to see :)
05:05 <Lucifer_arma> I'll do the afl brackets real quick, then get freeciv built on my server
05:06 <Lucifer_arma> v2.1 ok with everyone? The client crashes on me a lot, don't know about the server
05:06 <Vanhayes> hmm i think i have the lastest, not sure
05:06 <Lucifer_arma> I can do an svn checkout for the server if anybody knows if it's reliable
05:06 <Lucifer_arma> the 2.1 betas have a lot of important improvements that aren't in 2.0, which is good
05:06 <Lucifer_arma> but they're betas
05:07 <Lucifer_arma> and if the server crashes, the savegames usually can't be used because they'll just make it crash again
05:07 <Lucifer_arma> but it's a risk I'm willing to take :)
05:07 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: if we're starting a game, let me know
05:07 <Lucifer_arma> especially if someone's run the svn version recently and knows it to be more stable than the beta
05:07 <luke-jr> or someone else via IM would be best
05:07 <Vanhayes> luke-jr: ok, ill yell in here if we start tonight
05:07 <luke-jr> svn rev 12692 works decent
05:08 <luke-jr> I might not see in IRC
05:08 <Vanhayes> <luke-jr> svn rev 12692 works decent
05:08 <Vanhayes> ^ for Lucifer_arma
05:09 <GodTodd> not sure if 2.1 works on my machine
05:09 <GodTodd> i should try it
05:09 <GodTodd> tho, i'm not sure i'd want to play with luke anyways ;)
05:09 * luke-jr notes 12692 is from Feb
05:10 <Vanhayes> there is the beta 4 from june I think
05:11 <luke-jr> so I'll need to svn up
05:13 <GodTodd> anyone have the freeciv svn handy?
05:15 <luke-jr> only if you'll play with me :p
05:15 <luke-jr> ... not like that
05:15 * tramshed plays with luke-jr
05:15 <GodTodd> fine, i'll find it myself
05:15 * tramshed does it like that too.
05:16 <luke-jr> svn://svn.gna.org/svn/freeciv/branches/S2_1
05:34 <GodTodd> yeah...that one didn't work
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> anybody from either |x| or KoD here?
05:36 <Vanhayes> sort of
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> sort of?
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> you're from KoD?
05:37 <Vanhayes> technicly im in KOD but ive never played a match
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> then you're not really in KoD ;)
05:37 <Vanhayes> ya
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> I guess I'll flip a coin
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> heads, KoD gets a bye, tails |x| gets a bye
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> #coin
05:37 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: heads
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> there we go, it's official :)
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> and witnessed
05:38 <Vanhayes> oh ya, meant to post in one of those afl threads about having the day a game is on rotated
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> AFL CHATLOG COINTOSS
05:38 <Vanhayes> #help coin
05:38 <armabot> Vanhayes: (coin takes no arguments) -- Flips a coin and returns the result.
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> heh, that was the original plan, but most people objected and wanted it on Sunday and cleared Sundays so AFL could run
05:38 <Vanhayes> ok, good, that fake on isnt there anymore
05:38 * Vanhayes works every sunday
05:39 <Vanhayes> I suppose it is better for the majority of people tho
05:39 <Vanhayes> #list alias
05:39 <armabot> Vanhayes: monologue, roulette, \:o, add, afl, armabot, armaconfig, armaservers, armasettings, babel, ball, bigbrother, bounce, bug, bye, cat, cfg, chatlog, check, cinf, cink, crazylate, ctwf, dance, date, davestupidwebsite"rss, ddl, delire, die, die, digg, digitx, ding, do, dog, dong, eliza, eroulette, f, fastfood, finc, fink, fofo, fortune, g, gcalc, gfight, go, goodbye, hd, hell, hello, hey, (2 more messages)
05:40 <Vanhayes> #more
05:40 <Vanhayes> #more
05:40 <armabot> Vanhayes: hoop, hungary, hyphy, impregnate, insight, ircstats, joke, kill, killsomeone, kinc, kinf, laddle10, lastseen, legit, lock, log, log, m, man, mcalc, mfaq, monologue, morning, move, murder, nano, night, null, onlineplayers, onlineservers, pacman, peek, pingme, piong, plano, poing, powiedz, praise, pwn, q, realchatlogs, remove, res, resources, rou, roulette, roulette, roulete, rules, (1 more message)
05:40 <armabot> Vanhayes: roulette, sd, serverdetails, serverinfo, slap, speed, stfu, stone, sty, svn, t, tea, team, tst4, tst5, tstservers, tyskie, uname, unlock, ur, w, weather, where, whereis4p, whereisp4, where are the noobs ?, whoareyou, whoisp4, wikipedia, wild, wp, ww, ¡¡¡, and
05:40 <Vanhayes> #uname
05:40 <Vanhayes> #help uname
05:40 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: There is no command "uname".
05:40 <Vanhayes> # uname
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> does mediawiki take raw html tables?
05:48 <luke-jr> #coin
05:48 <armabot> luke-jr: heads
05:48 <luke-jr> #coin
05:48 <armabot> luke-jr: heads
05:48 <luke-jr> #coin
05:48 <armabot> luke-jr: tails
05:48 <luke-jr> it prefers heads
05:49 <GodTodd> you can't possibly know that with a 3 flip sample
05:52 <luke-jr> :p
05:53 <Vanhayes> #coin
05:53 <armabot> Vanhayes: tails
05:53 <Vanhayes> #coin
05:53 <armabot> Vanhayes: heads
05:53 <Vanhayes> #coin
05:53 <armabot> Vanhayes: tails
05:53 <Vanhayes> #coin
05:53 <armabot> Vanhayes: heads
05:53 <Vanhayes> #coin
05:53 <armabot> Vanhayes: heads
05:54 <Vanhayes> #coin
05:54 <armabot> Vanhayes: tails
05:54 <Vanhayes> seems pretty even
05:54 <Vanhayes> anyways, night
05:54 <Vanhayes> #night
05:54 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
05:54 -!- Vanhayes [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu83w-156034248004.pppoe-dynamic.nb.aliant.net] has quit ["Leaving"]
05:54 <GodTodd> yeah...but we can take it on "faith" that it prefers heads, i suppose...:/
05:56 <Lucifer_arma> vanhayes is leaving? no hour of setup time?
05:56 * Lucifer_arma just finished the AFL brackets
06:02 <Lucifer_arma> heh, I knew the best way to kill a freeciv game tonight was to say "find some players while I do the afl brackets"
06:02 <luke-jr> #echo luke is playing now
06:02 <armabot> luke is playing now
06:02 <Lucifer_arma> bbiab, gonna grab a smoke while I"m waiting for this svn co to complete
06:05 <GodTodd> make sure you grab the *un*lit end :)
06:07 <GodTodd> #plano
06:07 <armabot> The current temperature in Near Custer and Parker, Plano, Texas is 97.3°F (3:05 PM CDT on August 09, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: 66.2°F. Pressure: 29.26 in 990.7 hPa (Falling).
06:07 <GodTodd> hrmm
06:07 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
06:07 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 84.0°F (11:00 PM CDT on August 09, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 68.0°F. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Rising). Air pollution watch level Orange in effect Friday afternoon...
06:08 <GodTodd> #alias remove plano
06:08 <armabot> GodTodd: The operation succeeded.
06:08 <GodTodd> #weather 68131
06:08 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Omaha, Nebraska is 80.6°F (10:52 PM CDT on August 09, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 71.6°F. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014 hPa (Rising). Severe Thunderstorm Watch 578 in effect until 5 am CDT Friday...
06:08 <Lucifer_arma> #weather my ass
06:09 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
06:09 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 79.2°F (11:10 PM CDT on August 09, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 68.0°F. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Rising).
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> man, this checkout is taking forever
06:09 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma's got a brushy crack
06:09 <GodTodd> er creek ;)
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> true both times, but I'm sure you already knew that
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> is there a configure flag to tell freeciv to only build the server?
06:10 <GodTodd> dunno
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> there better be, my server doesn't have any gui stuff anymore :)
06:10 * Lucifer_arma feels almost like a Real Man for that, except that it's ubuntu
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> hard to feel manly over a name like ubuntu
06:10 <GodTodd> haha
06:11 <GodTodd> especially when the release is called feisty fawn :)
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> hey, I think I got hit on today
06:12 <GodTodd> what's his name?
06:12 <GodTodd> :D
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> which is a little weird. Some of the older students have flirted, but this was a pretty viable pass
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> I hate autogen scripts that run configure when they're done
06:13 <GodTodd> i just finished building
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> man, the checkout took fucking forever
06:14 <GodTodd> yeah it did
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> this was one of those rare passes where you kinda wish you could've responded :/
06:14 <GodTodd> then i had a chukc that borfed it so i had to restart it
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> library chick, masters degree in astronomy. I was outside doing some adjustments on the telescope so it could be used this fall for astronomy
06:14 <GodTodd> chunk*
06:15 <Lucifer_arma> she gave me her card, and was pretty flirty, but her giving me her card was on the pretense of "I like all the physics and astronomy people to know how to contact me"
06:16 <GodTodd> heh
06:16 <Lucifer_arma> because she's the reference librarian for physics and astronomy. So it was not only a viable pass, but could be explained away as simple introducing herself to someone in physics
06:16 <GodTodd> has your wife found out yet?
06:16 <GodTodd> ;)
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> I told her about it. :) It's curious because it's one of those situations where you leave wondering which interpretation you have of the conversation is correct
06:17 <GodTodd> yeah, chicks are good at that
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> yeah. :/
06:17 <GodTodd> and we dudes really really suck at choosing the right interpretation
06:17 <GodTodd> heh
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> I had a girl last spring offer me concert tickets, and I thought she was making a pass, so I told her my wife and I probably couldn't get a babysitter on such notice
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> then she offered to babysit :/
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> she really did want to dump her concert tickets, heh
06:18 <GodTodd> what concert?
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> some local metal band
06:18 <GodTodd> ah
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> big enough to sell tickets :)
06:19 <GodTodd> being in austin, local means they're probably pretty good ;)
06:19 <GodTodd> lot of new bands coming out of this area too
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> DFW has more metal than Austin
06:20 <GodTodd> yeah
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> austin doesn't have a lot of metal, unless you count the emo crap that comes out of here
06:20 <GodTodd> some of it's not too bad either :)
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> but I always thought emo couldn't be metal, by definition
06:20 <GodTodd> isn't SXSW there?
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> I had a guy in DFW try to talk me into moving up there so I could join his band
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, SxSW is here
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> march sometime, iirc
06:21 <GodTodd> i should make that one of these years
06:21 <GodTodd> heh
06:21 <GodTodd> you remember the name of that band?
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> no, I don't, sorry
06:21 <GodTodd> np :)
06:21 <GodTodd> was just curious
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> I remember the girl, though. She was hot, if you like trashy-looking chunky girls (which I do)
06:21 <luke-jr> ...
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> blond with black bangs
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> lip ring
06:22 <GodTodd> basically...a metal chick :)
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> yep :)
06:22 * Lucifer_arma thought his wife said she was "metal", but it turned out she had a cold.
06:23 <GodTodd> haha
06:23 <GodTodd> then there's luke-jr and his ricky martin man-crush...
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> freeciv port changed to 5556, right?
06:23 <GodTodd> not sure
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> you load a scenario as a saved game, right?
06:25 <GodTodd> i think so
06:25 <GodTodd> er...wait...
06:25 <GodTodd> i have 3 options on the client...new, scenario, and saved
06:27 * GodTodd hates having a weekend of waiting for his grade. :/
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> can't connect to the server with beta4
06:27 <luke-jr> ...
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> ok, doing an svn switch to the 2.1 branch
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> this might take awhile
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> why are gna's servers so fucking slow?
06:31 <GodTodd> dunno...does luke-jr host them?
06:31 <GodTodd> :D
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> must be the reason
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> probably a good thing vanhayes burned off
06:32 <GodTodd> yeah...those canadians need all the beauty sleep they can get ;)
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> I was just thinking it might be midnight before I have anything playable running
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> hell, it might be midnight before this svn switch is done
06:34 <GodTodd> heh
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> anybody know how to give bind hostnames that are only good on the local network?
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> that's the last step I need to finish getting dns working locally the way I've wanted it to work for some time
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> here I go again on my oooowwwnnnnn
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> going down the only road I've never known!
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> like a smurfboy I was born to walk in blue
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> and I've made up my mind
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> Smurfette's just a waste of time
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> I'm just another heart in need of smurfers
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> Waiting on smurf's sweet charity
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> And I'm gonna smurf on, for the rest of my smurfs
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> 'cause I know what it means
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> to walk along the lonely street of smurfs
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> oh good, it's broke
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> I guess I'll svn co a-fucking-gain
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> fuck this, I'm going to put it on automatic
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> bbiab
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> #monologue
06:51 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Your current monologue is at least 17 lines long.
06:54 -!- HellBlade-Arma [n=HellBlad@cpe-72-130-168-207.san.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
06:54 -!- HellBlade-Arma is now known as Stewie-Arma
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: ping
07:09 * Lucifer_arma has a 2.1 freeciv server running at www.davefancella.com port 5556
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> it's a 2.1 server
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> you guys are built from the trunk, aren't you?
07:10 <GodTodd> i am
07:10 <GodTodd> and it rejected me telling me an upgrade might help
07:10 <GodTodd> :/
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, but it's actually a downgrade
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> I built from the 2.1 branch so windows users could connect :)
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> you have to svn switch
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> then rebuild
07:11 <GodTodd> just type svn switch?
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> no, need a path
07:11 * Lucifer_arma thinks
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, I can get it
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> svn switch svn://svn.gna.org/svn/freeciv/branches/S2_1
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> then you have to autogen.sh/configure/make
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> svn switch svn://svn.gna.org/svn/freeciv/branches/S2_1 && ./autogen.sh && make
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> do it all at once :)
07:13 <Lucifer_arma> if you don't want to wait for the svn switch, you could just download the beta4 tarball
07:13 <Lucifer_arma> if the client crashes, you can always reconnect
07:13 <GodTodd> svn: 'svn://svn.gna.org/svn/freeciv/branches/S2_1'
07:13 <GodTodd> is not the same repository as
07:13 <GodTodd> 'http://svn.gna.org/svn/freeciv'
07:13 <Stewie-Arma> stupid freeciv -.-
07:13 <Lucifer_arma> change the svn to http and it should work
07:13 <Lucifer_arma> wait a minute
07:13 <Lucifer_arma> er, yeah, try that first
07:14 <GodTodd> '.' is not a working copy
07:14 <Lucifer_arma> pwd
07:14 <GodTodd> ?
07:14 <Lucifer_arma> type "pwd" and paste the output here
07:15 <GodTodd> /home/todd
07:15 <Lucifer_arma> you need to do svn switch inside the freeciv checkout
07:16 <GodTodd> k
07:16 <GodTodd> checking out
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> want to give a nation preference and I'll start you with an ai, or would you prefer me to wait?
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> #last --from luke-jr --nolimit
07:21 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: [06:31:55] <luke-jr> ..., [06:26:24] <luke-jr> ..., [06:07:25] <luke-jr> #echo luke is playing now, [05:57:26] <luke-jr> :p, [05:52:53] <luke-jr> it prefers heads, [05:52:48] <luke-jr> #coin, [05:52:46] <luke-jr> #coin, [05:52:43] <luke-jr> #coin, [05:20:36] <luke-jr> svn://svn.gna.org/svn/freeciv/branches/S2_1, [05:19:55] <luke-jr> ... not like that, [05:19:43] <luke-jr> only if you'll (19 more messages)
07:21 <Stewie-Arma> is there a list of commands for armabot somewhere?
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> yes
07:22 <Stewie-Arma> does it also describe what each command does?
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> you have another question?
07:22 <Stewie-Arma> I just asked it
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> oh fuck it, I'll just show you instead of teasing you :)
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> #list
07:22 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Insult, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
07:23 <Lucifer_arma> #list Praise
07:23 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: add, change, get, praise, remove, search, and stats
07:23 <Lucifer_arma> #help add
07:23 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: That command exists in the Alias, News, Praise, Quote, and RSS plugins. Please specify exactly which plugin command you want help with.
07:23 <Lucifer_arma> #help Praise add
07:23 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: (praise add [<channel>] <text>) -- Adds <text> to the praise database for <channel>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
07:23 <Lucifer_arma> got it?
07:23 <Stewie-Arma> yeah pretty much
07:23 <Lucifer_arma> if you're registered with nickserv, you can also /msg armabot
07:23 <Lucifer_arma> and she'll /msg back to you
07:24 <Stewie-Arma> aww
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> so for really long communications with her that nobody else is interested in, you should do it privately
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> unless nobody's here, in which case we don't care :)
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> but it's very rude when people are talking to snag armabot and start doing a bunch of shit that nobody cares about
07:25 <GodTodd> #weather 74023
07:25 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Cushing, Oklahoma is 78.8°F (12:10 AM CDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 73.4°F. Pressure: 29.99 in 1016 hPa (Falling). Heat advisory in effect until 7 PM CDT Sunday...
07:25 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
07:25 <GodTodd> #seen n54
07:25 <armabot> GodTodd: n54 was last seen in #armagetron 1 year, 8 weeks, 3 days, 2 hours, 37 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: <n54> hi mom :)
07:25 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Near Custer and Parker, Plano, Texas is 82.0°F (12:30 AM CDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 66.2°F. Pressure: 29.32 in 992.8 hPa (Rising). Air pollution watch level Orange in effect Friday afternoon...
07:25 <GodTodd> #seen ghableska
07:25 <armabot> GodTodd: ghableska was last seen in #armagetron 1 week, 5 days, 8 hours, 39 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: <ghableska> #tea
07:25 <GodTodd> #weather hell
07:25 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Baseline Lake, Pinckney, Michigan is 72.7°F (1:29 AM EDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 68.0°F. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011.1 hPa (Steady).
07:26 <GodTodd> like that? :D
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> #echo HI DURKA
07:26 <armabot> HI DURKA
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> man, that sooo used to piss me off
07:26 <Stewie-Arma> wow
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> we'd all be talking and hanging out, and durka would come in, hit up armabot for some love, then leave
07:26 <Stewie-Arma> talk about useless stuff
07:26 <GodTodd> yep
07:26 <GodTodd> #math calc 4+5+4+8*6
07:26 <armabot> GodTodd: 61
07:26 <Stewie-Arma> #weather 92037
07:26 <armabot> Stewie-Arma: The current temperature in La Jolla Shores, La Jolla, California is 75.9°F (10:30 PM PDT on August 09, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 62.6°F. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Rising).
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> #finc 75.9
07:27 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 24.3888888889
07:27 <Stewie-Arma> oh
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> so are you guys ready to join this game yet? ;)
07:27 <Stewie-Arma> lol I was like what is finc, but then I realised what it was
07:27 <GodTodd> grrr
07:28 <Stewie-Arma> can't...
07:28 <GodTodd> this switch is pissing me off
07:28 <Lucifer_arma> svn switch?
07:28 <GodTodd> yep
07:28 <Lucifer_arma> Stewie-Arma: why not?
07:28 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: just grab a beta4 tarball and build it :)
07:28 <Lucifer_arma> work out the svn thing while you're waiting for luke to hit turn done
07:29 <Stewie-Arma> 1.) Don't know how to play FreeCiv very well 2.) don't think the switch will work on macs. 3.) I'm already playing 3 games right now
07:29 <Lucifer_arma> 1) only one way to learn 2) download a prebuilt binary 3) probably better that way, then
07:30 <GodTodd> bah...just did a sudo rm -r *
07:30 <GodTodd> :)
07:30 <Lucifer_arma> none of us were born knowing how to play freeciv, even though luke plays like he was just born
07:31 <GodTodd> doing a clean co with the 2.1 path
07:32 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: ping
07:33 <Lucifer_arma> I guess luke decided not to switch to 2.1?
07:41 <luke-jr> ?
07:41 <Lucifer_arma> http://pearljam.com/news/index.php?what=News#195
07:42 <luke-jr> #echo Lucifer_arma: Luke switched to 2.1 a LONG time ago
07:42 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Luke switched to 2.1 a LONG time ago
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> then why didn't you reconnect to my server yet ? :)
07:42 <luke-jr> need to svn up
07:48 <luke-jr> #echo what rev works?
07:48 <armabot> what rev works?
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> latest
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> but it has to be from the 2.1 branch
07:48 <luke-jr> #echo I get build errors
07:48 <armabot> I get build errors
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> not the trunk
07:49 <luke-jr> #echo registry.c:821: error: 'BUG_URL' undeclared (first use in this function)
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, I didn't, on two computers (different oses even)
07:49 <armabot> registry.c:821: error: 'BUG_URL' undeclared (first use in this function)
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> you did autogen.sh again, and configure again, right?
07:49 <luke-jr> #echo nope
07:49 <armabot> nope
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> you can --disable-server if you're in a hurry
07:50 <Stewie-Arma> luke-jr you really like the #echo command don't you?
07:50 <luke-jr> #echo make is supposed to handle that :)
07:50 <armabot> make is supposed to handle that :)
07:50 <luke-jr> Stewie-Arma: I'm on his ignore
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> yes, it is :/
07:50 <Stewie-Arma> oh
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> Stewie-Arma: one reason this channel has been so quiet lately is because I started ignoring luke
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> which is a good thing in a way, because it means this channel isn't full up of me and him arguing
07:51 <Stewie-Arma> yes this has been told to me
07:51 <luke-jr> #echo and #echo works for when I have something to actually say to him :p
07:51 <armabot> and #echo works for when I have something to actually say to him :p
07:51 <Stewie-Arma> several tens of seconds before you said that
07:52 <GodTodd> i never ignore luke...he's great for those times i find utter stupidity a
07:52 <GodTodd> svn: 'svn://svn.gna.org/svn/freeciv/branches/S2_1'
07:52 <GodTodd> is not the same repository as
07:52 <GodTodd> 'http://svn.gna.org/svn/freeciv'
07:52 <GodTodd> musing :)
07:52 <Lucifer_arma> I personally think it's better this way, might be better if he ignored me reciprocally, because now we have to work at talking
07:52 <luke-jr> .........
07:52 <GodTodd> damn random pastes
07:52 <GodTodd> :/
07:52 <Lucifer_arma> haha
07:52 <luke-jr> my IRC client *asks* before it does that :p
07:52 <GodTodd> luke-jr: good for you, sparky :)
07:52 <Stewie-Arma> anyone here use x-chat aqua?
07:53 <GodTodd> nope
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> nope
07:53 * Lucifer_arma <---- not a mac user
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> actually, I installed x-chat at work on one of the macs
07:53 * GodTodd had to learn macs for when he was an earthlink tech...
07:53 <luke-jr> I use Konversation :)
07:54 <Lucifer_arma> you guys connect whenever you're ready, I'm a grab a smoke
07:54 <Stewie-Arma> *gasp*
07:54 <luke-jr> is Stewie-Arma playing?
07:54 <GodTodd> great...now i have to switch irc clients too?
07:54 <Lucifer_arma> don't change the rules too much. :) It's the world map, civ choices are limited
07:54 <GodTodd> :/
07:54 <Stewie-Arma> no sory luke
07:54 <Stewie-Arma> sorry**
07:54 <luke-jr> #echo Lucifer_arma: you'd need to op us to let us change rules
07:54 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: you'd need to op us to let us change rules
07:54 <Lucifer_arma> and iirc, they removed spawn point/nation associations, so it doesn't matter what you pick, theoretically
07:55 <luke-jr> #echo they removed Japan too >:O
07:55 <armabot> they removed Japan too >:O
07:55 <Stewie-Arma> it was pointless...
07:55 <Lucifer_arma> never was a japan
07:55 <Lucifer_arma> the japan we had, I added
07:55 <Stewie-Arma> orly?
07:55 <luke-jr> #echo ah
07:55 <armabot> ah
07:55 <Stewie-Arma> I remember the first game I played I started on japan
07:55 <Stewie-Arma> never saw it since, but yeah
07:59 <Stewie-Arma> well while you guys play your game I'm gunna go watch me some Rurouni Kenshin... probably finish the series tonight
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: ?
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> ping timeout
08:00 <Stewie-Arma> God get a better isp!
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> wtf?
08:01 <GodTodd> crashed again
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> does it put something in the terminal after it crashes?
08:01 <GodTodd> civclient: shared.c:716: real_die: Assertion `0' failed.
08:01 <GodTodd> Aborted (core dumped)
08:02 <GodTodd> before that:
08:02 <GodTodd> 0: Bad nation id 0 (count 125) in nation_of_player
08:02 <GodTodd> 0: Detected fatal error in nation.c line 255:
08:02 <GodTodd> 0: wrong nation 0
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> damn c programmers :/
08:03 <Stewie-Arma> AMEN brother
08:03 <GodTodd> Stewie-Arma: my isp is just fine, tyvm :P
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> wait, how are you running it?
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> are you doing "./civ" ?
08:03 <GodTodd> yeah
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmm, that should work
08:03 <GodTodd> should :)
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> it's a wrapper that sets everything up
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> try a beta4 tarball?
08:03 <GodTodd> grrrrr
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> if you can build svn, you should be able to build a beta....
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> you can do ./configure --disable-server to speed it up a bit
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> otherwise, it doesn't take long to build anyway
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> just out of curiosity, you didn't build the sdl client, did you?
08:04 <GodTodd> i did the path you gave me
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> which is the latest in the 2.1 series, with bugfixes from beta4
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> beta3 was pretty stable, iirc
08:06 <Lucifer_arma> ftp://ftp.freeciv.org/freeciv/beta/freeciv-2.1.0-beta3.tar.gz
08:06 <Lucifer_arma> what nation do you want?
08:07 <GodTodd> german i think
08:07 <Lucifer_arma> mind if I start you as AI then?
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> German, GodTodd I
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> citymindist is 2, so it can't screw you up too bad smallpoxing
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> crash yet? ;)
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> same error?
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> if it is, try one more time, this time just say something in the console
08:20 <luke-jr> #echo ...
08:20 <armabot> ...
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08:23 <beta_usa> hey
08:23 <Stewie-Arma> hello
08:31 <Lucifer_arma> crash again?
08:43 <beta_usa> ?
08:43 <Lucifer_arma> crash again?
08:43 <Stewie-Arma> they're playing freeciv and luke's game keeps crashing
08:43 <GodTodd> yeah...crashed again
08:44 <GodTodd> and i'm *not* luke :P
08:44 <Stewie-Arma> whoops
08:44 <Stewie-Arma> yeah I meant todd
08:44 <Stewie-Arma> luke, todd they're both first names.
08:45 <GodTodd> stick around a while and you'll find out why calling anyone luke is a mortal insult ;)
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08:46 <Lucifer_arma> blade runner, hellblade, what's the difference?
08:47 <Stewie-Arma> heh doesn't bother me
08:48 <Stewie-Arma> and blade runner was quite a good player...
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08:48 <luke-jr> GodTodd: you don't need to be so humble
08:48 <luke-jr> it's okay if you want to be me
08:48 <Lucifer_arma> he was a good runner :)
08:48 <Stewie-Arma> luke who would want to be you?
08:49 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o luke-jr] by ChanServ
08:49 -!- luke-jr changed the topic of #armagetron to: Latest Version: 0.2.8.2.1 | http://www.armagetronad.net/ | http://electricpotential.net/ircstats/armagetron.html | Gentoo? layman -ka armagetron | http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=20070407 | AFL discussion is in #afl , most of the time anyhow | pastebin: http://pastebin.ca/
08:49 <Stewie-Arma> especially when your game keeps quiting ;P
08:49 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o luke-jr] by luke-jr
08:49 <luke-jr> it doesn't
08:49 <appa> yo i have a question
08:49 <Stewie-Arma> yeah.
08:49 <GodTodd> luke-jr: if i were you, i'd have someone shoot me :)
08:50 <Stewie-Arma> GodTodd: if I was luke-jr I would have myself kill me twice
08:50 <GodTodd> now you're getting it :)
08:51 <Stewie-Arma> appa you had a question...
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09:06 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: dunno...keeps crashing for me :/
09:06 <Lucifer_arma> #eightball is luke coming back, or should I aitoggle him?
09:06 <luke-jr> #eightball am I coming back, or should Lucifer aitoggle me?
09:06 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Unlikely.
09:06 <armabot> luke-jr: It shall be.
09:06 <luke-jr> ...
09:06 <Stewie-Arma> rofl
09:06 <luke-jr> #eightball aitoggle me?
09:06 <armabot> luke-jr: Obviously.
09:06 <Stewie-Arma> yes
09:07 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: obviously!
09:07 <luke-jr> #echo Lucifer_arma: teh 8-ball sez obviously aitoggle me
09:07 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: teh 8-ball sez obviously aitoggle me
09:07 <Stewie-Arma> luke-jr your not armabot...
09:07 <Lucifer_arma> done
09:07 <luke-jr> 'night
09:08 <Stewie-Arma> awww
09:08 <Stewie-Arma> it's only 12:12 here
09:08 <Lucifer_arma> maybe we should go back to 2.0 if we're going to play during the intercession
09:08 <Stewie-Arma> 0012 I should say
09:08 <Stewie-Arma> #weather 92037
09:08 <armabot> Stewie-Arma: The current temperature in La Jolla Shores, La Jolla, California is 74.3°F (12:10 AM PDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 62.6°F. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Steady).
09:09 <Stewie-Arma> hmm quite pleasent for summer... unusual for san diego
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09:09 <Stewie-Arma> hey tramshed
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09:09 <Stewie-Arma> hmmm...
09:10 <Stewie-Arma> wonder what he's doing so late
09:20 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, pong
09:20 <Lucifer_arma> er, too late
09:20 <Stewie-Arma> just a little late on that one spidey
09:20 <spidey> haha
09:20 <spidey> just woke up
09:21 <noob7> #weather dublin
09:21 <armabot> noob7: Temperature: 57°F / 14°C | Humidity: 94% | Pressure: 30.04in / 1017hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h | Updated: 8:00 AM IST; Chance of Rain. High:68 ° F. / 20 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:53 ° F. / 12 ° C.; Rain. High:64 ° F. / 18 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:53 ° F. / 12 ° C.; Chance of Rain. High:64 ° F. / 18 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:51 ° F. / 11 ° (1 more message)
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09:21 <GodTodd> man spidey you have one of the *most* fucked up sleep schedules i've ever seen
09:21 <Stewie-Arma> wow that cold
09:21 <Stewie-Arma> wb tramshed
09:21 <noob7> #weather munich
09:21 <armabot> noob7: Temperature: 54°F / 12°C | Humidity: 82% | Pressure: 29.89in / 1012hPa | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h | Updated: 9:20 AM CEST; Rain. High:64 ° F. / 18 ° C.; Rain. Low:53 ° F. / 12 ° C.; Rain. High:66 ° F. / 19 ° C.; Rain. Low:59 ° F. / 15 ° C.; Rain. High:68 ° F. / 20 ° C.; Rain. Low:57 ° F. / 14 ° C.;
09:21 <Stewie-Arma> #weather san_diego
09:21 <noob7> warmer than here in dublin...
09:21 <spidey> no GodTodd my friend, anjori has the most fucked up sleep pattern
09:21 <armabot> Stewie-Arma: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
09:21 <spidey> because
09:21 <Stewie-Arma> blech
09:21 <spidey> i sleep during the days and am awake at night
09:21 <Stewie-Arma> are we allowed spaces?
09:22 <spidey> anjori sleeps whenever, and is awake whenever
09:22 <GodTodd> #weather "san diego"
09:22 <armabot> GodTodd: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
09:22 <GodTodd> hrmm
09:22 <noob7> zip codes work too
09:22 <Stewie-Arma> #weather san diego
09:22 <spidey> #weather 38256
09:22 <GodTodd> #weather san diego
09:22 <noob7> for us at least
09:22 <armabot> Stewie-Arma: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
09:22 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 81.5°F (2:27 AM CDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 73.4°F. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011.4 hPa (Falling).
09:22 <armabot> GodTodd: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
09:22 <Stewie-Arma> hmmm
09:22 <noob7> #weather frankfurt
09:22 <Stewie-Arma> oh well I just stick to the la jolla shores one
09:22 <armabot> noob7: The current temperature in Frankfurt, Germany is 57.2°F (9:20 AM CEST on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 57.2°F. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
09:23 <Stewie-Arma> #weather sandiego
09:23 <armabot> Stewie-Arma: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
09:23 <Stewie-Arma> heh
09:23 <noob7> #finc 57.2
09:23 <armabot> noob7: 14
09:23 <noob7> ok, leaveing behind bad weather in munich, to go "meh" about the weather in frankfurt just to arrive in bad weather again in dublin
09:24 <noob7> but then again dublin isnt were I am going in Ireland
09:24 <Stewie-Arma> lolz
09:24 <noob7> the stupid weather plugin just doesnt know Kerry
09:24 <Stewie-Arma> I'm going to Ireland sometime within the next year...
09:24 <noob7> cool, have you been before?
09:24 <Stewie-Arma> nope
09:24 <Stewie-Arma> but I have some sailing buddies from there
09:24 <noob7> then it'll be even more awesome
09:25 <Stewie-Arma> ^_^
09:25 <noob7> I'm leaving in about 2 hours for Valentia Island, its a little peninsula in the south west
09:25 <Stewie-Arma> niced
09:26 <Stewie-Arma> you taking plane?
09:26 <noob7> no net access, cellphone stays home
09:26 <noob7> train to frankfurt from munich, then plane to kerry airport
09:26 <noob7> (flights are cheaper from fankfurt)
09:26 <noob7> WAY cheaper
09:26 <Stewie-Arma> heh just don't take any planes from the UK
09:26 <noob7> why is that?
09:26 <Stewie-Arma> they'll confiscate everythign you have ;P
09:27 <noob7> lol, I only got like 7 shirts, 2 pants and underwear + 2 sweaters and boots
09:27 <noob7> 15kilo weight restriction sucks
09:27 <noob7> that's the downside of the cheap flight
09:27 <noob7> oh and the fishing gear...
09:27 <Stewie-Arma> heh I live in US, no such thing as cheap flight ;P
09:28 <noob7> well national flights are rather cheap arent they?
09:28 <Stewie-Arma> not really
09:28 <Stewie-Arma> 200+
09:28 <Stewie-Arma> USD that is
09:28 <noob7> my cousin is flying in from chicago, dunno what he is paying (2 kids coming along)
09:28 <spidey> haha
09:28 <Stewie-Arma> (that's both ways)
09:28 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, lizz and canis are playing scortched3d
09:28 <spidey> and they got some others on teamspeak playing it
09:29 <Stewie-Arma> hmmm I should probably redownload vectortd
09:30 <noob7> the flight for me is 150euros both ways + taxes, that's alright I guess
09:30 <Stewie-Arma> and by download I mean play
09:30 <GodTodd> #weather san diego, california
09:30 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in San Diego, California is 66.2°F (11:51 PM PDT on August 09, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 59.0°F. Pressure: 29.99 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
09:30 <GodTodd> :D
09:30 <Stewie-Arma> rofl
09:30 <noob7> but I'll have to add in the train fair, which is another 100 euros both ways
09:31 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, up for from scortched3d ? :D
09:31 <noob7> well I'm off guys
09:31 <noob7> buhbye
09:31 <Lucifer_arma> no, sorry
09:31 <spidey> ;(
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09:31 <GodTodd> hrmm...contemporary or fantasy?
09:31 <Lucifer_arma> we started a freeciv game without you
09:31 <GodTodd> :/
09:32 <spidey> ;/
09:32 <spidey> you know
09:32 <spidey> "i won't be playing tonight!"
09:32 <spidey> so i went to sleep =/
09:33 <Lucifer_arma> heh
09:33 <Lucifer_arma> it's ok, I suspect there'll be problems restoring the savegame
09:33 <Lucifer_arma> godtodd couldn't join the game
09:33 <Lucifer_arma> numerous little problems
09:33 <Lucifer_arma> I'm inclined to go back to 2.0.9
09:34 <Lucifer_arma> 2.1beta2 was nice and stable, but had that air unit problem
09:34 <Lucifer_arma> they could have just fixed that one problem and released :)
09:34 <Lucifer_arma> it's fixed now, but it's like for every bug they fix, they get 3 new ones
09:34 <Lucifer_arma> each beta is successively worse
09:36 <Lucifer_arma> ok, got bored
09:37 <Lucifer_arma> at least if we go back to 2.0 we can use the warclient again
09:40 <GodTodd> true
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09:43 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, remember how to line up shots in scortched3d?
09:43 <spidey> it was a button that was like freelook for locking on
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10:14 <NORAB_3d> hey all
10:14 <Stewie-Arma> hello
10:15 <beta_usa> Are there any plans to make armagetron comunicate with dbus ?
10:15 <beta_usa> That would be great.
10:15 <Stewie-Arma> I don't think that has been sugested yet...
10:16 <beta_usa> I'm not sure that a lot of people will have the use for this either, but still, i like the idea :)
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10:42 <NORAB_3d> !upload
10:42 <NORAB_3d> !upload
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11:13 <NORAB_3d> bbl
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12:29 <spidey> |-o-| <--ohes noes darthvader is coming!
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15:12 <spidey> }-o-{
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15:15 <epsy> hi
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15:41 <deja_vu> #weather siegen
15:41 <armabot> deja_vu: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
15:43 <tramshed> pwned.
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15:50 <beta_usa> hey deja_vu
15:54 <deja_vu> hi beta_usa :)
16:04 <luke-jr> beta_usa: wtf *would* Arma do with dbus?
16:06 <deja_vu> O.o
16:06 <digitx> luke-jr, bad ?? -.-
16:07 <beta_usa> luke-jr: any changes you can dream.
16:07 <beta_usa> Like modify the rubber through SSH.
16:07 <beta_usa> of a running game
16:08 <luke-jr> ...
16:08 <beta_usa> ...
16:08 <beta_usa> If you don't like what i said, just discard it and let's talk about something else.
16:09 <luke-jr> no, it's an idea-- but probably the lowest priority
16:09 <luke-jr> there's *so* much "planned" features already and too few developers
16:11 <beta_usa> I'm aware of that. It's wasn't a feature request though, just a dream.
16:11 <beta_usa> I now i could even do that instead of telling this on a chan, but i don't know dbus enough yet.
16:12 <PsYkO> luke-jr, I demand 3-D aliens chasing after lightcycles in 3.1.
16:13 <luke-jr> ...
16:13 <luke-jr> PsYkO: we just added stereo support at all, give it time!
16:13 <luke-jr> (thanks to wrtlprnft)
16:13 <PsYkO> stereo as in sound?
16:15 <luke-jr> as in video
16:16 <PsYkO> Cool xD
16:16 <PsYkO> can't way to see it
16:17 <PsYkO> Are there planned camera changes for 3? Because that's the one and only thing that stops me from upgrading.
16:17 <luke-jr> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/arma/screenshot_635.png
16:18 <tramshed> haha
16:18 <tramshed> 3dtron
16:18 <tramshed> wow thats a lot better font
16:18 <tramshed> that alone makes the game look about a gazillion times better
16:18 <PsYkO> I don't even know where to go to buy 3-d glasses :)
16:18 <luke-jr> ... isn't it Arial
16:19 <luke-jr> PsYkO: there's a website that will send free to US with a SASE
16:19 <tramshed> big green meter on left looks kinda lame though
16:19 <tramshed> you guys are actually making a version 3 now?
16:19 <tramshed> we arnt just gonna keep to 2.x?
16:20 <PsYkO> 3.0 is already out
16:20 <PsYkO> It is sweet except camera Dx
16:20 <luke-jr> um
16:20 <luke-jr> no
16:20 <luke-jr> 1.0 isn't even out
16:20 <PsYkO> .3*
16:20 <spidey> ...
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16:20 <tramshed> ok, im lost I think
16:20 <luke-jr> .3 is an experimental series
16:20 <PsYkO> my bad
16:20 <luke-jr> think Linux 2.5
16:20 <tramshed> oh, haha
16:20 <luke-jr> or 2.3
16:21 <epsy> #tea
16:21 <tramshed> I thought we referrring to tron
16:21 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: No online players.
16:21 <spidey> luke
16:21 <luke-jr> .3 = not tested
16:21 <luke-jr> tramshed: Armagetron
16:21 <tramshed> you guys rewriting it or something?
16:21 <spidey> wtf's it with you and these versions?
16:21 <spidey> you obviously know wtf the person's talking about
16:21 <luke-jr> spidey: don't look at me
16:21 <luke-jr> *I* voted to make it 2.0 etc
16:21 <tramshed> hah
16:21 <spidey> ..
16:21 <tramshed> so, is this the same tron im seeing in the screenshot, or a rewrite?
16:22 <tramshed> because im totally lost at this point
16:22 <luke-jr> but zman or luci or someone didn't want to let the stupid people be right
16:22 <PsYkO> So yeh, when is tron going to premiere on Wii, PS3, Xbox 360 etc?
16:22 <luke-jr> tramshed: Svn trunk
16:22 <PsYkO> :)
16:22 <spidey> luke-jr, smart them
16:22 <tramshed> ah
16:22 <luke-jr> PsYkO: never, unless you get those platforms to open up
16:22 <tramshed> well, it looks nicer
16:22 <luke-jr> PsYkO: a Wii/Xbox version would be illegal otherwise
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16:22 <PsYkO> I know, was joke
16:22 <tramshed> does the xbox branch of gentoo include its 3d support?
16:23 <tramshed> if so you might get tron to compile on it
16:23 <MrBougo> hiho
16:23 <luke-jr> tramshed: doubt it
16:23 <tramshed> I doubt it too
16:23 <tramshed> be cool if it did though
16:23 <luke-jr> tramshed: 0.3.0 is an old trunk snapshot, if you want fonts
16:23 <luke-jr> tramshed: better to just run trunk tho
16:23 <tramshed> havnt messed with it
16:23 <tramshed> new development to me since I last was playing
16:24 <tramshed> lot of changes actually
16:24 <tramshed> no more bends/rips, no more bounce, grinding feels normal in the new versions again
16:24 <tramshed> I remember when 2.7 first came out grinding was strange
16:24 <luke-jr> .2.7
16:25 <tramshed> aye, im just lazy
16:25 <PsYkO> http://sp-clan.freehostia.com/
16:25 <PsYkO> any opinions?
16:25 <luke-jr> clans suck
16:25 <luke-jr> :)
16:25 <tramshed> haha
16:25 <tramshed> I think I might be getting my old server back
16:25 <tramshed> so Ill be bringing World Of Hate back online
16:25 <luke-jr> too much moving crap on that page
16:25 <PsYkO> I agree
16:25 <luke-jr> tramshed: http://lightfoot.dashjr.org
16:26 <PsYkO> agreed, 3 too many marquees
16:26 <tramshed> hah
16:26 <MrBougo> wee
16:26 <tramshed> everyones tryin to sell me servers
16:26 <PsYkO> hi mrbougo
16:26 <tramshed> I gots my owns!
16:26 <MrBougo> Crystal Clouds 4th birthday, 70 hours of livesets, nonstop
16:26 <tramshed> maybe
16:26 <MrBougo> 2nd day today
16:26 <luke-jr> tramshed: mine are on biz ISP
16:26 <MrBougo> WIll B in the mix atm
16:26 <tramshed> besides, im broke
16:27 <tramshed> Id rather host it here, worked well enough before
16:27 <tramshed> and this connection has better latentcy than the last one
16:27 <spidey> luke-jr, yours are on a vps
16:28 <PsYkO> Brb, going to microwave some chicken wings :)
16:28 <epsy> #sd elim
16:28 <armabot> epsy: Bugfarm Elimination Sumo: Players (3/16): =AlexXx, Domi!, TK:Gazelle
16:28 <tramshed> I like how that screenie looks though
16:28 <tramshed> other than the big green whateverthehell guage on the left and the red ones, its pretty snazzy
16:30 <PsYkO> chicken wings + keyboard = smart
16:30 <tramshed> haha
16:30 <tramshed> stickyfingers
16:31 <luke-jr> microwave = dumb
16:31 <spidey> luke-jr = dumb
16:31 <tramshed> microwave + tin foil = cool lookin
16:31 <PsYkO> i shoulda put them into oven but im too hungry
16:33 <tramshed> some of these new servers have insane amounts of rubber
16:34 <tramshed> I spent probably 2 minutes just 180'ing back and forth on a wall seeing if it would bend
16:34 <luke-jr> lol
16:34 <tramshed> its like you are basically invincible
16:34 <PsYkO> all servers with under 25 rubber stink
16:34 <tramshed> the amount of time it takes to turn allows you to regen the rubber quicker than yuo lose it
16:35 <tramshed> heh, well world of hate had 4
16:35 <tramshed> and will have 4 again, unless its too little with the new tron, then it will have 6
16:35 <tramshed> NO MORE!
16:35 -!- beta_usa [n=noob@ALagny-154-1-89-163.w86-212.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ["free as in free speech"]
16:35 <tramshed> grinding isnt grinding if you can light a cigerette between hitting a wall and needing to turn
16:36 <luke-jr> tramshed: *sometimes* the speed is faster to accomidate the higher rubber
16:36 <spidey> yea
16:36 <tramshed> yeah, I noticed some are like that
16:36 <tramshed> most arent though
16:36 <tramshed> I had a good ole time on tigers yesterday
16:36 <tramshed> and I see swampland is still around
16:37 <tramshed> darn is gone 8(
16:37 <MrBougo> :(
16:37 * luke-jr hosts swampland
16:37 <MrBougo> swampland roxx
16:37 <tramshed> and ish is gone too
16:37 <MrBougo> luke-jr both swamplands?
16:37 <MrBougo> II and 2.7.1?
16:37 <luke-jr> .2.7.1 US & Europe
16:37 <PsYkO> tramshed - how long ago have u last played
16:37 <tramshed> besides the last few weeks it was two years
16:38 <MrBougo> nice
16:38 <tramshed> been trying to find pirate to get him back in the game
16:38 <MrBougo> luke-jr: what %age of all the arma servers are you hosting? xD
16:38 <luke-jr> not that much
16:38 <spidey> .00001
16:38 <PsYkO> i was around 2 years ago
16:38 <MrBougo> lol
16:38 <tramshed> same name?
16:38 <PsYkO> so was pretty much everyone else here xD lol
16:38 <MrBougo> but anyway, swampland roxx
16:38 <tramshed> im /dev/null ingame
16:38 <PsYkO> yeh
16:39 <mkzelda> luke-jr: your website design service you provide doesnt look like your site does it?
16:39 <MrBougo> it's my home server, <3
16:39 <PsYkO> do you remember the old speeders server
16:39 <tramshed> mkzelda, hah
16:39 <luke-jr> mkzelda: depends on what's being designed
16:39 <spidey> you was /dev/null ?
16:39 <tramshed> yep
16:39 <MrBougo> omg, i love this
16:39 <tramshed> thats me
16:39 <spidey> heh
16:39 <spidey> i remember the name from way back when
16:39 <PsYkO> /dev/null ftw
16:39 <tramshed> there was an imposter me on the other day
16:39 <PsYkO> same
16:40 <luke-jr> any of you know Java?
16:40 <tramshed> got on a server and it changed my name to /dev/null2
16:40 <MrBougo> luke-jr: i can read java
16:40 <MrBougo> but not write
16:40 <tramshed> im java illiterate
16:40 <spidey> luke-jr, wtf you need java for?
16:40 <MrBougo> thats pretty useful, isnt it...
16:40 <MrBougo> lvoe the syntax
16:40 <MrBougo> love*;
16:41 <luke-jr> spidey: XML object
16:41 <luke-jr> or rather, E4X support
16:41 <tramshed> im guessing he wants something cross platform for the web or something
16:42 <PsYkO> lol i cant read any programmer stuff
16:42 <PsYkO> I can't even make a gosh darn website
16:42 <luke-jr> pathetic
16:42 <spidey> make 3 boxes
16:42 <spidey> and call it a site
16:42 <PsYkO> it took me 4 hours to do the wiki.Tilt
16:42 <spidey> tis what i do
16:42 <tramshed> hah
16:42 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.org
16:42 <tramshed> my websites tend to be pretty basic
16:42 <PsYkO> and another 4 researching how to make the gosh darn table
16:42 <tramshed> but thats more laziness than anything else
16:43 <tramshed> id rather tinker under the hood than paint the car
16:43 <spidey> tramshed, amen
16:43 <PsYkO> i could probably figure my way around website stuff its just I don't know the first thing about the admin CP of free host sites
16:43 <tramshed> bout the most complexity you might see out of me is phpBB with a custom style
16:43 <PsYkO> like file programs and all that
16:43 <spidey> eh?
16:43 <spidey> screw that stuff
16:44 <spidey> it should all burn
16:44 <tramshed> hah
16:44 <tramshed> those one click hosters
16:44 <spidey> ssh/php upload script < cpanel/wtfeverpanel
16:44 <tramshed> get amazing speeds of .001k/sec!
16:44 <spidey> alligator mouth eats loser :D
16:44 <tramshed> hah
16:45 <PsYkO> sucks even more that i dont have dreamweaver
16:45 <PsYkO> arghghghghg now im getting all pissy
16:45 <PsYkO> on my day off no less
16:45 <luke-jr> Dreamweaver is total trash
16:45 <GodTodd> i might be willing to help luke-jr with java...but i seem to remember him telling me that learning java was useless, that no one worthwile uses it....that and i wouldn't want to offend his chauvenistic sensibilities with the fact that i would *have* to mention that my wife knows java like the back of her hand....you know, showing that not *all* women are stupid ;)
16:45 <tramshed> I used to use some opensource wysiwig
16:45 <luke-jr> that needs to burn
16:45 <spidey> dreamweaver should die to
16:45 <spidey> you need nothing more than
16:45 <spidey> ....notepad!
16:45 <luke-jr> GodTodd: I'm just using Java classes :p
16:45 <tramshed> haha
16:46 <tramshed> I hate writing html
16:46 <tramshed> I just use something simple to lay it out quick and easy like
16:46 <spidey> GodTodd, tell himt ot fuck off
16:46 <spidey> tramshed, quickly?
16:47 <spidey> CSS is about the quickist thing you can use :p
16:47 <GodTodd> luke-jr: and java classes are not part of java?
16:47 <tramshed> I wish I could remember the name of the editor I used to use
16:47 <tramshed> its in portage somewhere
16:47 <luke-jr> GodTodd: "part of"
16:47 <GodTodd> luke-jr: and if you knew even "part of" java...then you wouldn't have to ask :)
16:48 <spidey> lol
16:48 <luke-jr> I do know part of Java, just not this part
16:48 <GodTodd> or, to show you you *have* taught me something, luke-jr: RTFM :)
16:48 <luke-jr> I'll bet you don't either
16:48 <luke-jr> I need to append the classpath at runtime
16:49 <GodTodd> bet all you want...you'd have even less money, sparky
16:49 <PsYkO> I know English...
16:49 <GodTodd> yep, i know how to do that
16:49 <GodTodd> but will i tell your condescending ass?
16:49 <GodTodd> don't bet on it :)
16:49 <spidey> poont
16:50 <luke-jr> you just don't know
16:50 <GodTodd> whatever you have to tell yourself, go ahead
16:50 <tramshed> haha
16:50 <GodTodd> i know what i know
16:50 <GodTodd> :)
16:50 <PsYkO> This is fun..
16:50 <tramshed> I know that you know that I know that you dont know
16:50 <luke-jr> which doesn't include appending the classpath at runtime
16:50 <GodTodd> sure, sparky
16:50 <GodTodd> :)
16:51 <tramshed> luke, screw him, go to the oracle known as google
16:51 <spidey> well
16:51 <spidey> the answer's 2
16:51 <tramshed> and screw him well!
16:51 <tramshed> 42!
16:51 <luke-jr> tramshed: Google doesn't know either
16:51 <tramshed> wow, sucks to be google
16:51 <GodTodd> while you know what's in my mind, where did i leave my keys, luke-jr?
16:51 <spidey> luke-jr, maybe you don't know how to ask ggogle
16:51 <spidey> google*
16:51 <luke-jr> GodTodd: your pocket, foo
16:52 <GodTodd> nope
16:52 <GodTodd> luke-jr is wrong *again*, imagine that
16:52 <GodTodd> :)
16:52 <tramshed> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/tooldocs/solaris/classpath.html this maybe?
16:52 <luke-jr> then I guess you *forgot*
16:52 <GodTodd> sure, sparky
16:52 <GodTodd> :)
16:52 <PsYkO> I was waiting for luke-jr to say "up your arse, foo"
16:52 <MrBougo> GodTodd: your a*s
16:52 <MrBougo> aw
16:52 <luke-jr> tramshed: what part of that is at runtime?
16:52 <MrBougo> lol PsYkO
16:52 <spidey> tramshed, you're not supposed to actually help him..
16:52 <PsYkO> but no, I was disappointed xD
16:52 <MrBougo> i did
16:53 <MrBougo> so you aint disappointed
16:53 <PsYkO> nice call :)
16:53 <tramshed> The default class path is the current directory. Setting the CLASSPATH variable or using the -classpath command-line option overrides that default, so if you want to include the current directory in the search path, you must include "." in the new settings.
16:53 <tramshed> that part?
16:53 <tramshed> beats me
16:53 <tramshed> I dont know java
16:53 <luke-jr> that's part of the execution command
16:53 <luke-jr> :p
16:54 <PsYkO> so no one answered me question of....
16:54 <GodTodd> whenever anyone else asks for help, luke-jr always says RTFM...that's why i'm giving him a hard time on it
16:54 <PsYkO> the camera in .3.1
16:54 <tramshed> http://help.eclipse.org/help32/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse.jdt.doc.isv/reference/extension-points/org_eclipse_jdt_launching_runtimeClasspathEntries.html
16:54 <tramshed> ?
16:56 <tramshed> http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=300557
16:56 <tramshed> that one maybe too
16:57 <tramshed> judging frm the silence I think one of them might of had the answer
16:57 <tramshed> or GodTodd really did know and is spilling the beans
16:57 <tramshed> or I am lagging out and dont know it yet
16:57 <spidey> raman > luke-jr
16:58 <tramshed> I ate so much fucking ramen in prison
16:58 <spidey> lol
16:59 <luke-jr> ..
16:59 <tramshed> ...
17:00 <spidey> ....
17:01 <spidey> nickleback - animals
17:02 * tramshed is listening to... `Too Little, Too Late` by The Descendants of Mike and Phoebe on WFMU on Give the Drummer Some (WFMU - 128k Version - Freeform Radio the Way it Oughta Be!!)
17:03 <luke-jr> nope
17:04 <tramshed> well, I tried
17:04 <tramshed> hit up #java or something
17:05 * MrBougo is now playing: Crystal Clouds 4th Birthday - Will B (1.FM - Trance)
17:05 <Lucifer_arma> rt-thefuck-m!
17:05 <tramshed> haha
17:05 <tramshed> lucipwned
17:05 <MrBougo> lol
17:05 <mkzelda> 9 days, 23 hrs, 19 mins, 40 seconds
17:05 <mkzelda> Gabbo!
17:05 * Lucifer_arma is now listening to... `Who gives a fuck what you're listening to?` by Shut The Fuck Up, Asshole.
17:06 <tramshed> haha
17:06 <MrBougo> indeed
17:06 <tramshed> boredom cares!
17:06 <spidey> see
17:06 <spidey> if i cared if you wanted to see what i was listening to
17:06 <epsy> someone fort café ?
17:06 <spidey> i would have asked first
17:06 <spidey> but, i obviously didn't :D
17:06 <MrBougo> epsy: nexuiz ctf :p
17:07 <Lucifer_arma> that reminds me, my kids are a lot quieter when I have music pllaying
17:07 <mkzelda> nexuiz 1v1 :D
17:07 <epsy> =(
17:07 <Lucifer_arma> maybe I should start some
17:07 <tramshed> tron sounds like a good idea
17:07 <spidey> haha
17:07 <tramshed> im bored enough to go pwn some people
17:07 <Lucifer_arma> and you spent enough time in jail to be pretty good at bending at right angles
17:07 <spidey> i haven't played tron in so long
17:08 <Lucifer_arma> man, that freeciv game last night went off more like a glob2 game
17:08 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, i still hate you for that :(
17:08 <Lucifer_arma> that why you're listening to emo music now?
17:08 <spidey> it's not emo music...
17:09 <Lucifer_arma> nickleback isn't emo music? SINCE WHEN?!?!?
17:10 <Lucifer_arma> see, telling us what you're listening to just opens you up for abuse, since hardly anybody here likes the same music as anybody else
17:10 * GodTodd likes megadeth...
17:10 <GodTodd> :P
17:11 <Lucifer_arma> my kids' new favorite song is Monty Python's Ho Ho Fucking Ho
17:11 <GodTodd> haah
17:11 <GodTodd> haha*
17:12 <GodTodd> i like the sperm song
17:12 <spidey> fine
17:12 <GodTodd> every sperm is sacred i think is what it's called
17:12 <spidey> brb i'm going to cut myself
17:12 <Lucifer_arma> have fun
17:12 <spidey> :D
17:13 <Lucifer_arma> let us know how it all works out
17:13 <GodTodd> if it's successful he won't be able to :)
17:13 <Lucifer_arma> I want to redefine emo as "too wussy to be BDSM"
17:14 <GodTodd> how about: solo bdsm?
17:14 <spidey> actually
17:14 <spidey> as long as it's not techno, or dance
17:14 <spidey> i probably like it
17:14 <Lucifer_arma> my dick is neither techno or dance
17:14 <spidey> ...
17:14 * GodTodd dances on Lucifer_arma's dick.
17:15 <spidey> lol
17:16 <Lucifer_arma> it has been my observation that when there's music going, usually metal, my kids are extremely well-behaved, they don't argue or fight with each other, and they do good work quickly when I ask them to
17:17 <Lucifer_arma> so here we go, Megadeth
17:18 <GodTodd> old or new?
17:18 <Lucifer_arma> haha, that's a hard question to answer
17:18 <Lucifer_arma> She-Wolf, off Cryptic Writings
17:18 <GodTodd> heh
17:18 <Lucifer_arma> I filled up a CD with mp3s, my dvd player plays them
17:19 <GodTodd> so...a Mega-Medley :)
17:19 <Lucifer_arma> heh, yeah, but it's not just megadeth
17:19 <Lucifer_arma> for one, it's got Ho Ho Fucking Ho on it
17:19 <GodTodd> i should see if my dvd player plays mp3s
17:19 <GodTodd> i think it does
17:20 <Lucifer_arma> my brother-in-law just cleaned out his garage and stumbled across an old receiver and a couple of speakers
17:20 <spidey> my stereo plays mp3's
17:20 <Lucifer_arma> so for the first time in some years we have real music again
17:20 <spidey> so i have 3 700mb cd's of music in it D:
17:20 * GodTodd goes to take a luke-jr.
17:20 <spidey> haha
17:20 <Lucifer_arma> heh, I'm considering putting carplayer to the test by setting it up hooked up to the stereo
17:21 <Lucifer_arma> so is he doing #1, or #2?
17:21 <spidey> both at the sametime?
17:21 <epsy> #realchatlogs
17:21 <armabot> epsy: http://master3.armagetronad.net/armalogs/
17:23 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: #2
17:23 <GodTodd> :)
17:23 <GodTodd> can't do #1 and refer to luke-jr, cuz he doesn't know piss.
17:25 <GodTodd> hrmm...is my data structures class going to be somewhat fun or is it going to be one of those "man i should have taken something else" classes?
17:25 <Lucifer_arma> heh
17:25 <Lucifer_arma> depends on how badly you want to work on eugenics :)
17:25 <epsy> 23:10 <epsy> Lucifer_arma, how did you generated the countdown voice ?
17:26 * epsy wants to know :P
17:26 <PsYkO> Hi Lucifer
17:26 <GodTodd> #last --from epsy --with countdown --nolimit
17:26 <Lucifer_arma> 10:34 <Lucifer_arma> epsy: I didn't. Some guy named Voltsubito did it, and afaik it's just some reverb on his regular voice
17:26 <armabot> GodTodd: [17:30:24] <epsy> 23:10 <epsy> Lucifer_arma, how did you generated the countdown voice ? and [23:15:26] <epsy> Lucifer_arma, how did you generated the countdown voice ?
17:26 * GodTodd shows epsy the fast way :)
17:26 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: not if it's the last thing he said
17:27 <tramshed> haha
17:27 <Lucifer_arma> then <up><return> is faster
17:27 <tramshed> I just got told not to corner on a server with 12 rubber
17:27 <Lucifer_arma> not to corner?
17:27 <Lucifer_arma> wtf is that?
17:27 <GodTodd> well...i didn't know at the time it was the last thing he had said ;)
17:27 <epsy> Lucifer_arma, kk ty
17:27 * Lucifer_arma is a believer in keeping the traditional meanings of words, where "cornering" means pushing luke into a place where he doesn't think Jesus will save him.
17:28 <tramshed> cornering is when you grind a turn
17:28 * GodTodd should make a degree plan flowchart...
17:28 <Lucifer_arma> outside or inside?
17:28 <tramshed> inside
17:28 <tramshed> so I readjusted on a wall about 600 times
17:28 <tramshed> they got pissy about that too
17:28 <Lucifer_arma> so the phrase "outside corner grinder" is when you do it on the outside?
17:28 <PsYkO> /me hates people that whine for cornering
17:29 <Lucifer_arma> they got pissy bout that? THOSE SMEGHEADS DO IT ALL THE TIME
17:29 <Lucifer_arma> they just don't recognize you, that's all
17:29 <tramshed> they got pissy about it with 12 fuckin rubber
17:29 <tramshed> I literally hit a wall, took a drink, then turned and was fine
17:29 <Lucifer_arma> this "community" isn't nearly as welcoming to newcomers (or comers-from-break) as it used to be
17:29 <Lucifer_arma> didn't we used to literally run up and hug everyone that showed up?
17:30 <tramshed> aye, used to be closer
17:30 <Lucifer_arma> now we tell them to fuck off and rip into them for daring to press left or right
17:30 <tramshed> I snapped off at those llamas for telling me not to use the rubber
17:30 <tramshed> they kept saying "But its dogfight!"
17:30 <tramshed> and I kept saying "Its got 12 fuckin rubber, im gonna use it!"
17:30 <spidey> ...
17:30 <Lucifer_arma> well, if the server said "dogfight" on it, then you should have done whatever "dogfight" means :)
17:30 <Lucifer_arma> but I don't know wtf dogfight means
17:31 <spidey> indeed
17:31 <spidey> dogfighting is non-sealing
17:31 <spidey> in most cases
17:31 <tramshed> I guess it means have a ton of rubber and then bitch at people for using it
17:31 <tramshed> they were all sealing
17:31 <Lucifer_arma> so i don't go into those places.
17:31 <tramshed> how the hell you gonna kill someone with 12 rubber if you dont seal
17:31 <spidey> then they don't know wtf they're talking about :)
17:31 <tramshed> its impossible
17:31 <spidey> easy
17:31 <spidey> make them kill themselves
17:31 <spidey> i used to do it all the time
17:31 <tramshed> they have to like, leave the keyboard and go piss or something
17:31 <spidey> you give to much credit
17:32 <spidey> 12 rubber isn't that much
17:32 <spidey> you have maybe 5 seconds when you hit the wall
17:32 <spidey> unless it's really slow
17:32 <tramshed> I can just 180 on a wall back and forth infinitely
17:32 <tramshed> thats too much
17:32 <MrBougo> lol
17:32 <Lucifer_arma> you never played with /dev/null, did you spidey?
17:32 <tramshed> 5 seconds is a shitload
17:32 <tramshed> I like one, tops
17:32 <tramshed> lol luci
17:32 <tramshed> I guess the standards have changed is all
17:33 <tramshed> Does that make me an old tron fogey now?
17:33 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, lower standards of play and higher standards of smegheadery
17:33 <tramshed> 12 rubber is what it was like playing .2.7 servers with the .2.6 client
17:33 <spidey> <3
17:33 <tramshed> invincibility
17:33 <Lucifer_arma> you know, when you can take 2 years off and come back, you're an old tron fogey
17:33 <tramshed> hah
17:33 <Lucifer_arma> that's not bad though. What about the poor suckers who remember you? ;)
17:34 <tramshed> haha
17:34 <tramshed> tank still play?
17:34 <Lucifer_arma> now and then
17:34 <tramshed> what about Jon
17:34 <Lucifer_arma> nope
17:34 <tramshed> bummer
17:34 <Lucifer_arma> nor Jon`
17:34 <tramshed> havnt seen God either
17:34 <Lucifer_arma> nah, he disappeared. I think God is dead.
17:34 <tramshed> God taught me
17:34 <Lucifer_arma> egg's beating around still
17:35 <tramshed> hah I think I saw him the other day
17:35 <Lucifer_arma> oh wait, you mean <red>GOD, don't you?
17:35 <tramshed> I mean god with the one colored letter
17:35 <tramshed> the god who could grind anything
17:35 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, whatever. He uninstalled arma because he thought it was hurting his GPA
17:35 <tramshed> haha
17:35 <Lucifer_arma> said he'd come back when he finished school :)
17:35 <tramshed> probably was
17:35 <tramshed> fucker could grind his ass off
17:35 <tramshed> playing him is how I learned how to grind
17:35 <Lucifer_arma> I happened to be there in his last game before doing it ;)
17:36 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, he was good
17:36 <Lucifer_arma> one of those players you celebrate when you finally beat him :)
17:36 <tramshed> I used m$ sucks for a nick until I could beat god regularly
17:36 <tramshed> Im so rusty now its stupid
17:36 <tramshed> I can still tunnel, but my grinds are weak
17:36 <Lucifer_arma> frustrating
17:36 <tramshed> gettin better, but slow
17:37 <Lucifer_arma> I haven't played in a few months, but here's what always happens:
17:37 <Lucifer_arma> your timing is totally off
17:37 <spidey> who would actually want to reinstall tron? :p
17:37 <Lucifer_arma> so the outside corner grinds? Nah, you crash before the corner
17:37 <tramshed> haha, indeed
17:37 <Lucifer_arma> all those holes you used to be able to hit?
17:37 <Lucifer_arma> no such thing
17:37 <tramshed> unless you have 12 rubber
17:37 <tramshed> then its like pingpong
17:37 <Lucifer_arma> heh
17:37 <tramshed> I missed a little hole the other day
17:37 <tramshed> it was embarassing
17:38 <tramshed> (if thats not quotable I dont know what is)
17:38 <Lucifer_arma> it's the outside corner grinds that really annoy me. It used to be like "holy shit, he can grind the outside of the corner!" and you never notice that you can do it, too
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17:38 <Lucifer_arma> until you can't, anyway
17:38 <tramshed> haha
17:38 <Lucifer_arma> tramshed: all things considered, that's totally quotable :)
17:38 <tramshed> yeah I used to be awesome at corner grinds
17:38 <MrBougo> choon!
17:38 <tramshed> just ride the rim
17:38 <tramshed> and watch people smash trying to match your grinds
17:38 <tramshed> or when both people would fly at the rim and turn at each other
17:39 <tramshed> best grind didnt splatter!
17:39 <Lucifer_arma> #quote add "I missed a little hole the other day, it was embarassing --/dev/null"
17:39 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
17:39 <Lucifer_arma> grrr
17:39 <tramshed> haha
17:39 <tramshed> pwned.
17:39 -!- PsYkO [n=psyko@pool-72-66-47-86.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
17:39 <Lucifer_arma> #quote add "I missed a little hole the other day, it was embarassing --/dev/null"
17:39 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded. Quote #53 added.
17:39 <tramshed> I just had deja vu like a bitch
17:39 <spidey> tramshed, don't talk about deja_vu like that!
17:39 <tramshed> hah
17:40 <Lucifer_arma> of course, it's not quite as funny if you don't know why /dev/null was gone for so long
17:40 <tramshed> You gonna eat yah corrrnbred?
17:40 <tramshed> hah
17:40 * GodTodd does and also notes the "ride the rim" comment went totally unnoticed ;)
17:41 <tramshed> yeah, I got fucked over in that situation nicely
17:41 <tramshed> shit happens I guess
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17:42 <PsYkO> I have a wiki related question
17:42 <Lucifer_arma> I have a wiki related answer
17:42 <PsYkO> I just finished finalizing the server stats that the servers for the Tilt will be using
17:42 <Lucifer_arma> (and it's not "read the fucking wiki")
17:43 <PsYkO> What is the easiest way of having a link on the wiki that allows the admins to download it or people to see them
17:43 <Lucifer_arma> this doesn't sound like a wiki related question
17:43 <PsYkO> Yes, I had one wiki related statement, and one wiki related question ;)
17:43 <Lucifer_arma> [http://www.wherever.com/whatever?this=isaquerystring This is a link]
17:43 <PsYkO> THANKS!
17:44 <Lucifer_arma> everything after the first space is put in the caption of the link
17:45 <Lucifer_arma> np
17:45 <GodTodd> #quote get 54
17:45 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #54: "<Lucifer_arma> nah, he disappeared. I think God is dead." (added by GodTodd at 05:48 PM, August 10, 2007)
17:45 * deja_vu hits tramshed
17:46 <deja_vu> spidey: thanks :o
17:46 * tramshed hits deja_vu
17:46 * deja_vu hits tramshed again >:
17:46 <deja_vu> >:(
17:46 <tramshed> hah
17:47 <spidey> deja_vu, <3 :D
17:48 <spidey> one thing i love about FPS games over tron
17:48 <spidey> it doesn't matter how fast you can press 4-6 keys in a FPS
17:48 <GodTodd> wonder if my instructor will post my grade today or be mean and wait until monday :/
17:49 <spidey> even when i don't touch a computer for 2 weeks, i'm still just as good at them, tron...no sir, i always had to play for hours to get back on track
17:50 <tramshed> hah
17:54 <GodTodd> #quote get 21
17:54 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #21: "<Luke-Jr_work__> btw, pedophile is good" (added by spidey at 06:34 AM, September 09, 2006)
17:54 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
17:54 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Near Custer and Parker, Plano, Texas is 90.5°F (10:59 AM CDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 64.4°F. Pressure: 29.35 in 993.8 hPa (Rising). Heat advisory in effect from noon today to 7 PM CDT Saturday...
17:54 <GodTodd> 90 already?
17:54 <GodTodd> :/
17:55 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.org/index.php?goto=servers
17:55 <spidey> ffs, how many servers can 4 people manage >.>
17:55 <GodTodd> #weather austin, texas
17:55 <spidey> #weather 38256
17:55 <armabot> GodTodd: Error: timed out
17:55 <GodTodd> bah
17:55 <mkzelda> #weather 27545
17:55 <armabot> spidey: Error: timed out
17:55 <spidey> ...
17:55 <armabot> mkzelda: The current temperature in Hedingham, Raleigh, North Carolina is 94.8°F (12:00 PM EDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 71.6°F. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa (Steady). Excessive heat warning in effect until 7 PM EDT this evening...
17:56 <spidey> #weather 38256
17:56 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 89.6°F (11:00 AM CDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 66.2°F. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Falling).
17:56 <spidey> 89 =/
17:56 <mkzelda> my power went out when it was 103 2 days ago
17:56 <spidey> it was 100.9 yesterday
17:56 <spidey> thank god the power didn't go out..
17:57 * GodTodd remembers mesa...*shudder*
17:57 <GodTodd> #weather 85215
17:57 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Mesa, Arizona is 84.2°F (6:55 AM MST on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 55.4°F. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising).
17:57 <GodTodd> wow...cold there now
17:57 <spidey> lol
17:58 <GodTodd> 'course that was at 7am mst
17:58 <GodTodd> heh
17:58 <spidey> wtf's a MST
17:58 <GodTodd> mountain standard time
17:58 <spidey> o
17:58 <GodTodd> they don't save daylight
17:58 <spidey> lamers!
17:58 <GodTodd> they have enough :)
17:59 <Stewie-Arma>
17:59 <Stewie-Arma> v
17:59 <spidey> lool
17:59 <Stewie-Arma> grrrr
17:59 <spidey> wtf?
17:59 <mkzelda> how do they create confusion if they dont save daylight
17:59 <GodTodd> wow...that was freaky
17:59 <Stewie-Arma> sorry the text box got stuck
17:59 <mkzelda> wow that fucked up my client's formatting
17:59 <tramshed>
17:59 <GodTodd> mkzelda: they try not to :)
17:59 <Stewie-Arma> #weather 92037
17:59 <armabot> Stewie-Arma: The current temperature in La Jolla Shores, La Jolla, California is 73.4°F (8:59 AM PDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 62.6°F. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Steady).
17:59 <tramshed>
17:59 <tramshed>
17:59 <tramshed> SPAM!
18:00 <tramshed> got the spam out of my system for about 3 months now
18:00 <Stewie-Arma> lol it's colder than it was last night
18:00 <mkzelda> well thats just silly, u have to confuse everyone and change it whenever things start to make sense
18:00 <Stewie-Arma> #finc 73.4
18:00 <armabot> Stewie-Arma: 23
18:00 <Lucifer_arma> man, how can you handle that weather?
18:00 <GodTodd> mkzelda: haha they figured it's hot during the day so wtf would they want an extra hour of hot
18:00 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
18:00 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 87.4°F (11:05 AM CDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 68.0°F. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Falling).
18:01 <Lucifer_arma> kinda chilly here, too
18:01 <Stewie-Arma> rofl luci
18:01 <GodTodd> wtf? we're hotter than you southerners?
18:01 <Lucifer_arma> it's morning
18:01 <Stewie-Arma> texas is hotter than socal todd
18:01 <Lucifer_arma> just give it a couple of hours and we'll be toasty-fried again
18:01 <GodTodd> morning here too, duh
18:01 <mkzelda> i win so far, but im an hour ahead
18:01 <GodTodd> Stewie-Arma: i was referring to Lucifer_arma :)
18:01 <Stewie-Arma> ha it's 9 here
18:01 <Lucifer_arma> well, I was thinking we had a cold front blowing in, you know
18:01 <Lucifer_arma> looks like I was right
18:02 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
18:02 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Near Custer and Parker, Plano, Texas is 90.9°F (11:06 AM CDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 64.4°F. Pressure: 29.35 in 993.8 hPa (Rising). Heat advisory in effect until 7 PM CDT Sunday...
18:02 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 88337
18:02 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Tularosa, New Mexico is 85.1°F (10:06 AM MDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 31%. Dew Point: 51.8°F. Pressure: 30.09 in 1018.8 hPa (Steady).
18:02 <GodTodd> so why don't i have it? :P
18:02 <Stewie-Arma> #weather 92037\
18:02 <Stewie-Arma> damn
18:02 <armabot> Stewie-Arma: The current temperature in La Jolla Shores, La Jolla, California is 73.2°F (9:04 AM PDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 62.6°F. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Steady).
18:02 <GodTodd> #weather 88310
18:02 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Alamogordo, New Mexico is 78.8°F (9:51 AM MDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 64.4°F. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
18:02 <GodTodd> 7 degrees between tulie and alamo?
18:02 <Stewie-Arma> #weather 92109
18:02 <GodTodd> wow
18:02 <armabot> Stewie-Arma: The current temperature in San Diego, California is 68.0°F (8:51 AM PDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 59.0°F. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Rising).
18:02 <Lucifer_arma> weird, isn't it?
18:02 <Lucifer_arma> was always like that, for some reason
18:03 <Lucifer_arma> wait, I'm backwards
18:03 <mkzelda> #weather 27610
18:03 <spidey> #weather 92328
18:03 <Lucifer_arma> at least, La Luz was usually a couple of degrees cooler than Alamo
18:03 <armabot> mkzelda: The current temperature in Southall Subdivision, Raleigh, North Carolina is 94.6°F (11:49 AM EDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 78.8°F. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa (Falling). Excessive heat warning in effect until 7 PM EDT this evening...
18:03 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in China Lake, California is 78.8°F (8:56 AM PDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Unknown. Humidity: 23%. Dew Point: 37.4°F. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
18:03 <GodTodd> there's what, 10 miles between them?
18:03 <Lucifer_arma> always blamed it on elevation
18:03 <Lucifer_arma> 20 miles
18:03 <GodTodd> still
18:03 <GodTodd> freaky valley
18:03 <Lucifer_arma> well, between 10 and 20. I always figured the street we lived on was the midpoint, and it was 10 miles (on white sands blvd) to alamo
18:03 <mkzelda> #weather 33901
18:03 <PsYkO> hey stewie
18:03 <armabot> mkzelda: The current temperature in Fort Myers, Florida is 91.4°F (11:53 AM EDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 71.6°F. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
18:04 <Stewie-Arma> hey psyko
18:04 <PsYkO> u can go into speeders, loaded right now is the settnigs for the tilt
18:04 <GodTodd> oh...wait...it's NM...it's not a valley, it's a "basin" :)
18:04 <Lucifer_arma> it really is a basin :)
18:04 <Stewie-Arma> kk I'll check it
18:04 <PsYkO> and now, i must take a pee :)
18:04 <Lucifer_arma> it's one of the areas where no water flows out, which is why it stinks so much there
18:04 <Lucifer_arma> well, gotta do some dishes
18:04 <GodTodd> i thought that was christ community :)
18:04 <mkzelda> thats why it stinks so much
18:04 <GodTodd> me too...by loading the dishwasher :)
18:05 <mkzelda> me three, by unloading the dishwasher
18:05 <mkzelda> my house is on fire!
18:05 <GodTodd> the roof?
18:05 <mkzelda> not yet
18:05 <GodTodd> you don't need no water, let the motherfucker burn
18:05 <mkzelda> collect insurance
18:06 <GodTodd> been a while since i've listened to them
18:06 * GodTodd likes bloodhound gang
18:06 <GodTodd> course i also always have liked they might be giants too :)
18:07 <GodTodd> -also or -too
18:07 <GodTodd> :/
18:07 <mkzelda> i liked bhg too
18:07 <mkzelda> naughty by nature and white by choice
18:08 <mkzelda> and the sound of my voice makes your panties moist
18:08 <GodTodd> haha
18:08 <mkzelda> cause im finger-lickin' happy like a gay proctologist
18:08 <mkzelda> and like a bike w/ hollow grips ill rip the mic w/ hollow tips
18:08 <PsYkO> bloodhound gang......ew
18:09 <mkzelda> dont come up for air until you kiss me where it smells funny
18:10 <spidey> http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/1381/11uxqueqw7.gif
18:10 <mkzelda> Au concrete PM this is twizm
18:14 <mkzelda> --Shaq
18:14 <mkzelda> I've never understood that line
18:17 * tramshed is listening to... `Head Like a Hole` by NIN on WFMU on Scott Williams's show (WFMU - 128k Version - Freeform Radio the Way it Oughta Be!!)
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18:30 <Lucifer_arma> you what really irritates me?
18:30 <Stewie-Arma> no...
18:30 <Lucifer_arma> er
18:30 <epsy> heh
18:30 <Lucifer_arma> you *know* what really irritates me?
18:31 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@ip-62-235-195-36.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit []
18:31 <epsy> hi hellblade
18:31 <GodTodd> running out of dish soap?
18:31 <Lucifer_arma> when I was younger, and I'm not *that* old!, I used to have a full 4 octaves of range on my voice
18:31 <Stewie-Arma> hey epsy
18:31 <Lucifer_arma> not a terribly good voice, mind you
18:31 <Lucifer_arma> but I had range!
18:31 <GodTodd> before or after cigarettes?
18:31 <GodTodd> :)
18:32 <Lucifer_arma> around 19/20, I even worked out the transition from mid to high without squeaking, and hit a high point where there were literally only like 3 notes across 6 king diamond/mercyful fate records I couldn't hit
18:32 <Lucifer_arma> during
18:32 <epsy> damn...still banned from #e
18:32 <Lucifer_arma> but I started smoking at 19
18:32 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmm
18:32 <GodTodd> there ya go :)
18:33 <Lucifer_arma> man, I was even encroaching on Geof Tate's range (but obviously he has really good timbre, my voice isn't what I'd call esthetically pleasing as a singing voice)
18:33 <Lucifer_arma> now I'm flat as soon as I go into the higher register
18:33 <spidey> lol
18:33 <Lucifer_arma> on the flip side, I've added an octave down low, so I've still got around 3 octaves, I just lost the high register
18:34 <Lucifer_arma> maybe I finally hit puberty or something and my voice broke ;)
18:34 <GodTodd> that's the cigs
18:34 <mkzelda> i had a good voice until puberty
18:34 <mkzelda> a lot more range and control
18:35 <Lucifer_arma> my voice was actually good before puberty, and it subjectively seemed to get better when I got into heavy metal back when it was Metallica and Slayer
18:35 <GodTodd> mkzelda: now you know why michael jackson refused to ever hit puberty ;)
18:35 <Lucifer_arma> but next to those guys, anybody would sound good
18:35 <mkzelda> i have a lot of ear nose and throat issues so some days i have really good days and i can have a day where i cant hear myself talk
18:35 <Lucifer_arma> that bites
18:35 <Lucifer_arma> I have the same problem, but it's kids, not ear/nose/throat issues
18:35 <mkzelda> odd thing is, smoking cigs actually helps my ENT
18:36 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: getting near phil ansel-emo's voice? ;)
18:36 -!- P4|away is now known as P4
18:36 <Lucifer_arma> ha!
18:36 <Lucifer_arma> I just got an email from a guy in Spot 1019 :)
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18:37 <GodTodd> is that near studio 54?
18:37 <GodTodd> :D
18:37 <Lucifer_arma> they're a band :)
18:38 <Lucifer_arma> I wonder if I can get them to give us permission to use some of their songs for the game
18:38 <GodTodd> metal band?
18:43 <mkzelda> The FBI is watching you masturbate.
18:43 <Stewie-Arma> you mean they beat you to it?
18:47 <epsy> heh Lucifer_arma we're actually in august, not in july
18:48 <epsy> :)
18:48 <epsy> (fixed)
18:48 <Lucifer_arma> man, I love the internet
18:49 <Lucifer_arma> heh, thanks epsy :)
18:49 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: no, not metal, not really
18:49 <Lucifer_arma> ok, not even close
18:49 <Lucifer_arma> they're a really eccentric surfer band
18:50 <GodTodd> ahhh
18:50 <GodTodd> last album in '90?
18:50 <epsy> Lucifer_arma, i'm wondering, can oops players vote for the MVP ?
18:51 <Lucifer_arma> not just no but HELL NO
18:51 <Lucifer_arma> unless they played on another team
18:51 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: something like that. They have a website
18:51 <Stewie-Arma> many lulz
18:51 <epsy> ok wasn't sure about it
18:51 <GodTodd> yeah..was checking it out
18:51 <GodTodd> :)
18:51 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: my kid just took scissors to the last remaining CD of theirs that I had :(
18:51 <mkzelda> i think oops is the mvp of any games they played
18:51 <mkzelda> er, were scheduled
18:51 <GodTodd> check amazon
18:51 <Lucifer_arma> that fucking CD has been through hell and back again with me. Survived the impound, survived both of the older kids...
18:52 <Lucifer_arma> (no money right now)
18:52 * GodTodd can't find any torrents of them :/
18:52 <Lucifer_arma> what part of "irreplaceable" are they not understanding?
18:52 <Lucifer_arma> even the P2P networks have been pretty thin on them
18:52 * GodTodd has all of his cds backed up on the file server
18:52 <Lucifer_arma> another band that is a metal band that's good, and I'd love to find, is Xentrix
18:52 * GodTodd had to replace too many obscure cds :)
18:53 <mkzelda> When my employees at one job used to irritate me, I'd hand them this giant pair of scissors and tell them to go run with them
18:53 <Lucifer_arma> all I've got is obscure CDs!
18:53 <Lucifer_arma> every CD that was worth money I sold :)
18:53 <Lucifer_arma> (after ripping)
18:53 <GodTodd> i went through the cd selling stage
18:53 <GodTodd> didn't have the ability to rip at the time tho
18:54 <Lucifer_arma> well, the stage never transformed into a rebuying stage for reasons that should be obvious by now
18:54 <Lucifer_arma> (not money, I *could* squeeze out $20 every couple of months if I really wanted to)
18:54 <GodTodd> ok...xentrix i can find on torrent
18:54 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, I really want to write this email to the Spot 1019 guy :)
18:54 <GodTodd> so do it :P
18:54 <Lucifer_arma> they're one of my all-time favorite bands :)
19:02 <Vanhayes> you should get slowcoaster songs for arma
19:02 <Vanhayes> just throwing it out there
19:02 <Stewie-Arma> btw how do you start the music on tron...
19:02 <digitx> -.-
19:02 <Stewie-Arma> lol never tried to figure it out
19:03 <Vanhayes> you have to set keys for play pause next and previous track in global keyboard setting
19:03 <spidey> Vanhayes, lies
19:03 <Stewie-Arma> he always does
19:03 <Vanhayes> what am lying about now?
19:04 <Vanhayes> hmm, there should be an "I" in there
19:04 <spidey> just felt like calling you a liar
19:04 <spidey> :D
19:05 <Lucifer_arma> haha
19:05 <Lucifer_arma> told him I'm after AE "hoping to put a housepet in outer space"
19:05 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: liar
19:05 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: what Xentrix are you finding? Just individual songs, or whole records?
19:06 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, counter liar
19:06 <Lucifer_arma> hey, that's the record I've been after!
19:06 <Lucifer_arma> no seeds, though
19:06 <spidey> damn those leechers
19:08 <GodTodd> if you can find ones with seeds, it's whole records
19:09 <Lucifer_arma> besides azureus, what other graphical bt clients are there?
19:10 <spidey> uturrent
19:10 <GodTodd> i use ktorrent
19:11 <spidey> gotorrent ftw
19:11 <spidey> '
19:11 <spidey> -o
19:11 <GodTodd> well...found a seeded "For Whose Advantage" anyway...it'll give me a taste of what they're about :)
19:11 <Lucifer_arma> nvm, found it
19:11 <Lucifer_arma> you did? link?
19:11 * Lucifer_arma is still installing a client
19:12 <Lucifer_arma> that's kind of funny you said that, since the chorus goes "For whose advantage anyway, this reckless nature you display" etc.
19:12 <GodTodd> haha
19:12 <Lucifer_arma> I had that one on tape, and I loaned it to this chick that never gave it back
19:12 <Lucifer_arma> the same chick that I wrote that THC song about
19:12 <Lucifer_arma> maybe I should change the lyrics to reflect that
19:13 <Lucifer_arma> link to the seeded torrent?
19:13 <spidey> really
19:13 <spidey> it don't even have to be seeded
19:14 <GodTodd> hmmm...how do i find the link on ktorrent?
19:14 * spidey has downloaded a movie that had no seeders
19:14 <Lucifer_arma> fuck if I know
19:14 <mkzelda> i use ktorrent but i dont get the question
19:15 <spidey> i want to install slackware 11 on my desktop, but i'm scared it'll fuck over my hdd like last time
19:15 <spidey> :(
19:15 <Lucifer_arma> well, it's downloading, oddly enough
19:16 <spidey> seeders don't matter
19:16 <Stewie-Arma> lol
19:16 <Lucifer_arma> what are seeders, then?
19:16 <spidey> it just matters that all the parts are floating around among the leechers
19:16 <Lucifer_arma> they're not
19:16 <spidey> you still download off leechers, ya know
19:16 <Lucifer_arma> but there's probably enough to get a few songs at least
19:16 <spidey> how do you know? :)
19:16 <Stewie-Arma> luci seeders are people that have the full download
19:16 <Lucifer_arma> aha, ok
19:16 <spidey> leechers are people that have peices of the download
19:17 <spidey> so, enough leechers = seeders
19:17 <Stewie-Arma> lol
19:17 <Lucifer_arma> well, this one doesn't have enough, apparently :)
19:17 <GodTodd> ahh...ok mine isn't seeded....i have 9.18%
19:17 <spidey> what are you looking for?
19:17 <GodTodd> waiting for more
19:17 <Lucifer_arma> anything by Xentrix
19:17 <Stewie-Arma> you might want to check the pieces to see if you can get all of them
19:18 <GodTodd> i have the best luck torrenting late at night
19:18 <GodTodd> them damn europeans love free shit ;)
19:18 <Stewie-Arma> there's luck in torrenting?
19:18 <mkzelda> i see 2 different 'for whose advantage' that arent completely seeded :D
19:18 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, how much time you got?
19:19 <Lucifer_arma> all day
19:19 <Lucifer_arma> all night
19:19 <spidey> http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3735888/Xentrix_(Thrash_Metal)
19:19 <spidey> 1 seeder and 2 leechers
19:19 <mkzelda> i see that same one, but it says 0 seeds and 4 leechers
19:20 <Stewie-Arma> blech I'm going to die on level 40 of vectortd
19:20 <Lucifer_arma> thanks spidey, opening it right now
19:20 <Stewie-Arma> stupid greys -.-
19:20 <Lucifer_arma> I see 1 seeder and 2 leechers on the site
19:21 <mkzelda> http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3670702/Xentrix_-_For_Whose_Advantage_(1990)_UK_Thrash_Metal
19:21 <mkzelda> http://www.btmon.com/Audio/Unsorted/Xentrix_-_For_Whose_Advantage_-_1990_-...torrent.html
19:21 <Lucifer_arma> client won't connect for some reason
19:22 <Lucifer_arma> do I have to kill the first torrent for the second to start?
19:22 <mkzelda> not usually
19:22 <mkzelda> is it unable to contact the tracker
19:22 <spidey> you know
19:22 <Lucifer_arma> torrents are like boiling water, it takes longer if you watch them
19:22 <mkzelda> yep
19:22 <mkzelda> torrents suck for obscure things
19:23 <spidey> http://forumw.org
19:23 <spidey> that load for anyone?
19:23 <spidey> or is my net just being gay again
19:23 <Stewie-Arma> http://btjunkie.org/search?q=xentrix <--- no seeders shown
19:23 <mkzelda> your internets are not homosexual atm
19:23 <spidey> k
19:24 <mkzelda> omg 1990 was 17 years ago, thats scary
19:24 <spidey> really?
19:24 <spidey> i was born in 89 and i'm 17 O.o
19:24 <mkzelda> ya totally i did 2007 - 1990
19:25 <spidey> mkzelda, liar
19:25 <mkzelda> try it!
19:25 <GodTodd> spidey, what month? :P
19:25 <mkzelda> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=Bqs&q=2007+-+1990&btnG=Search
19:26 <mkzelda> see!?
19:26 <GodTodd> apparently that seeder is at work or something :/
19:26 <Stewie-Arma> lol
19:27 <GodTodd> mkzelda: yeah that shit's scary...kind of like when i refer to the "new" metallica to my son (who is a fan :/) and it's the album from 1991
19:27 <GodTodd> heh
19:27 <Lucifer_arma> no spot 1019 on spidey's site
19:29 <Lucifer_arma> man, souls at zero that I don't already have
19:29 * Lucifer_arma wants their self-titled
19:29 <GodTodd> do i have that one?
19:29 * GodTodd thinks.
19:30 <Lucifer_arma> dammit, I have A Taste for the Perverse and Neurosis
19:30 <mkzelda> u can dl it from those russian pay sites
19:30 <mkzelda> for $1.87
19:30 <Lucifer_arma> I need the *other* one, goddamn it!
19:30 <Lucifer_arma> both of my torrents stopped
19:31 <mkzelda> The FBI busted you
19:31 <spidey> haha
19:31 <mkzelda> for whose advantage: $1.87, Kin $2.60, Shattered Existence $2.25, Scourge $1.51, Ghostbusters $0.40
19:31 <Lucifer_arma> heh, 40 cents for ghostbusters
19:31 * Lucifer_arma is pretty sure he has that, found on an opennap server
19:32 <mkzelda> http://www.mp3raid.com/search/mp3/xentrix.html has ghostbusters
19:32 <Lucifer_arma> download it, you'll probably like it :)
19:32 <mkzelda> We strongly suggest you to delete the audio files you downloaded in 24 hours and buy xentrix's album.
19:32 <Lucifer_arma> haha
19:32 <mkzelda> lol, that warning is still around
19:33 <Lucifer_arma> afaik xentrix is out of print
19:33 <mkzelda> i remember pre 2000 you could search yahoo/lycos for mp3s and find tons of pages
19:33 <mkzelda> where u could just download mp3s from tripod/geocities/xoom
19:33 <mkzelda> and they'd always say "Delete within 24 hours"
19:34 <Stewie-Arma> have you guys tried: http://www.metacrawler.com/info.metac/search/audio/xentrix/1/-/1/-/-/-/1/-/-/-/1/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/417/top/-/-/0
19:34 <mkzelda> yea i typed that from memory
19:34 <Stewie-Arma> lol
19:34 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=746 <--- says they're split up now
19:34 <spidey> any ideas how i'd get 9250 drivers installed for ubuntu?
19:35 <mkzelda> via chipset?
19:35 <spidey> didn't have any luck with the binary drivers, or the ones i compiled :(
19:35 <mkzelda> If you have a via chipset, you might as well not try
19:35 <spidey> visiontek
19:35 <Stewie-Arma> xentrix-reasons for destruction...
19:36 <mkzelda> Ive had a couple 9250's, and getting them to work in any machine was a pain ill never attempt again
19:36 <mkzelda> er, in any linux machine
19:36 <mkzelda> ati-drivers + 9250 + linux is bad... all that + via is impossible
19:36 <tramshed> never had problems with linux and via
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19:36 <mkzelda> and ati?
19:37 <tramshed> my old radeon worked fine
19:37 <spidey> what
19:37 <GodTodd> woot xentrix seeder is online :)
19:37 <spidey> wait*
19:37 <tramshed> used to play tron and vendetta and ut on it
19:37 <spidey> you're talking about the 9250 chipset right?
19:37 <GodTodd> was*
19:37 <GodTodd> :/
19:37 <tramshed> this lappy has a radeon as well
19:37 <tramshed> works in gentoo
19:37 <tramshed> not a 9250 though im sure
19:37 <mkzelda> what radeon?
19:37 <tramshed> the one was an AIW something or other
19:37 <tramshed> and this one is an m6 mobility
19:38 <mkzelda> oh
19:38 <mkzelda> i had an AIW 32mb that worked fine w/ linux/via
19:38 <mkzelda> well, after some work
19:38 <mkzelda> but it just wont happen w/ a 9200, 9250
19:38 <tramshed> the old radeons have a kernel driver for them
19:38 <tramshed> the newer ones you use the ati drivers for
19:38 <mkzelda> yeah
19:39 <mkzelda> and u can for the newer radeon chipset use the kernel driver too
19:39 <mkzelda> not as enhanced as ati-drivers,
19:39 <mkzelda> but ati-drivers is a crapshoot
19:40 <tramshed> heh
19:41 <tramshed> what linux you using?
19:41 <mkzelda> gentoo
19:41 <mkzelda> Sysinfo for 'fx-53': Linux 2.6.19-reiser4-r7 running KDE 3.5.7, CPU: AMD Athlon 64 FX-53 at 2400 MHz (4823 bogomips), HD: 667/1209GB, RAM: 1937/2012MB, 96 proc's, 1.20d up
19:41 <tramshed> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ati-faq.xml
19:41 <mkzelda> yea ive read it all
19:41 <tramshed> what isnt working then
19:41 <mkzelda> i dont use ati anymore
19:41 <tramshed> and what errors are you getting
19:41 <tramshed> oh, heh
19:42 <mkzelda> there are no errors because it freezes the computer solid the second fglrx attempts to be used
19:42 <mkzelda> ive been through 10 or so instances of this, trying to help friends and such, just some hardware combinations will not work
19:43 <mkzelda> ati-drivers are the real issue
19:43 <mkzelda> and via's buggy chipset back in the day
19:43 <mkzelda> hence the 4-in-1's they had to do for windows
19:43 <tramshed> I know thier drivers suck, but Ive always been able to get them to work fine
19:43 <mkzelda> ive gotten them to work on other hardware
19:43 <tramshed> only hardware problem ive actually ever had that I couldnt solve is this f'in laptop
19:43 <mkzelda> i have a 9250 working on an intel d850gb mobo
19:44 <tramshed> it tries to melt itself in gentoo for some reason
19:45 <mkzelda> hehe, too much optimilizations
19:45 <tramshed> nah
19:45 <tramshed> it literally tries to melt itself
19:45 <mkzelda> it was a joke from the -funroll-loops ricers
19:45 <tramshed> it overheats so badly i have to let it sit for about 20 minutes before itll turn back on
19:46 <mkzelda> does it do that even w/o running X?
19:46 <tramshed> anytime I compile or try to play 3d games
19:46 <tramshed> and occasionally just sitting there doing nothing
19:46 <spidey> heatsink/fan not big/powerful enough? :p
19:46 <tramshed> hah
19:47 * tramshed kicks the laptop in the face
19:47 <spidey> my laptop does that sometimes
19:47 <mkzelda> it kicks you in the face?
19:47 <spidey> though i have it sitting directly infront of a airconditioner
19:47 <spidey> no
19:47 <spidey> gets way to hot
19:47 <spidey> and it's only a p3
19:47 <spidey> lol
19:48 <tramshed> this is a p4
19:48 <tramshed> 2.4ghz I think
19:48 <mkzelda> all my p4s get too hot
19:48 <spidey> i would know if the p4 did
19:48 <tramshed> I hope I can get my server back
19:48 <spidey> it has a boxfan on it :D
19:48 <mkzelda> heh, ive done that b4, a box fan on each side
19:48 <mkzelda> one pulling one pushing
19:49 <spidey> heh
19:49 <mkzelda> ive made some interesting cases
19:49 <mkzelda> one was a series of coathangers
19:49 <mkzelda> ive had harddrives supported by rubber bands
19:50 <mkzelda> im sure hte fbi got a good laugh at that
19:50 <tramshed> heh, I had frankencomputer at one point
19:51 <tramshed> it consisted of two towers, 3psus and around 20 drives
19:51 <mkzelda> yeah thats what i had going on in my server the fibi raided
19:51 <tramshed> why did the fbi raid your server?
19:51 <mkzelda> warez
19:51 <tramshed> haha newb
19:51 <mkzelda> i was in the scene
19:51 <mkzelda> it was a topsite
19:52 <tramshed> which one?
19:52 <mkzelda> FON, PUA, and TVX
19:52 <tramshed> heh
19:52 <mkzelda> i ran some others but they didnt get them :D
19:52 <tramshed> topsites are pretty much dead anymore
19:52 <tramshed> its a lot more decentralized nowadays
19:53 <mkzelda> they're still around doing the same thing as b4
19:53 <Lucifer_arma> buttermilk biscuits are the worst bread product to eat eggs over easy with
19:53 <Lucifer_arma> they drown out the taste of the yolk :(
19:53 <tramshed> yeah, but they arnt as important as before
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19:53 <tramshed> back in the 90s topsites were the bomb
19:54 <tramshed> now they are just big
19:54 <mkzelda> affils were ViTE, AEN, TcS, b00zers, VENOM, OUTCAST, MiRACLE, RiOT, ORGASM, ESCAPE, TWCiSO, TWCMP3...
19:54 <spidey> well
19:54 <mkzelda> and i was in most of those groups and some others
19:55 <spidey> since wine can reportedly play all the games i play 90%-100% my only excuse for not using linux for a desktop is that i can't get the 9250 drivers working
19:55 <spidey> xD
19:55 <tramshed> hah
19:55 <tramshed> I used to be into the groups and then realized they arnt actually doing anything anymore
19:55 <tramshed> cept reveling in thier own egos
19:55 <tramshed> that was back in the 90s though
19:56 <mkzelda> i got heavy in it post dec 11 2001 big bust
19:56 <mkzelda> i was in b4 that but i wasnt important until after that bust
19:56 <tramshed> like I said, anymore a topsite isnt anything special
19:56 <mkzelda> cause a bunch of the big guys quit or got busted, and i started getting really good supply
19:56 <tramshed> because its not actually at the top
19:57 <tramshed> a private torrent usually distributes the stuff to the major botnets now and it filters on from there
19:57 <mkzelda> lol, how do you pre then?
19:57 <mkzelda> ah yea we did some of that, easier to 'race'
19:57 <tramshed> the scene has changed a lot
19:58 <mkzelda> prewhoring became obsolete
19:58 <tramshed> the whole click became obsolete
19:58 <tramshed> unless you are actually recording/cracking the stuff you are useless
19:58 <mkzelda> i always asked why we didnt utilize a decentralized, bittorrent style primarily
19:58 <tramshed> most do anymore
19:58 <mkzelda> woulda saved my ass
19:58 <tramshed> then when they got it they pump it into thier botnets
19:58 <mkzelda> the old folk didnt wanna change
19:59 <tramshed> ive seen some crazy ass bots
19:59 <tramshed> there was one on rizon for a while that could pump 20MB/sec
19:59 <mkzelda> my sites could do that
19:59 <mkzelda> in 2002
20:00 <tramshed> and how were you paying for them?
20:00 <mkzelda> i had 50MB/sec
20:00 <mkzelda> 4x100mbit
20:00 <mkzelda> channel bonded
20:00 <mkzelda> abusing .edu
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20:00 <tramshed> ah, the glory of shared lines
20:01 <tramshed> I was using purdue universitys fiber for a while
20:01 <mkzelda> the glory of capped lines, that only i had the secret to uncapping
20:01 <tramshed> hosting a few servers from it
20:01 <mkzelda> so i always got my full 100mbit on every line i used
20:01 <mkzelda> my site would send at 5MB/s to .nl
20:01 <mkzelda> of course coming back from eu to us was only 2-2.5MB/s
20:01 <mkzelda> and i dunno how much thats changed in 4-5 years
20:02 <mkzelda> i used some staff lines too, those went unmonitored
20:02 <tramshed> ive been wanting to test the speed limits I can hit with ipv6
20:02 <mkzelda> and were dedicated
20:02 <tramshed> ive always preferred botnets
20:02 <tramshed> lot harder to trace
20:02 <mkzelda> i had friends at resnet that would let me know if the accounts got flagged
20:03 <tramshed> various speeds, yes but it wont come back to haunt you
20:03 <spidey> lol
20:03 <spidey> botnets would be easy to trace
20:03 <tramshed> to trace the bot yeah, to trace me, no
20:03 <mkzelda> i hid a machine in the wetwall of a college as they were buliding a new facility
20:03 <spidey> you so sure about that?
20:03 <mkzelda> it ran for over a year after i got busted
20:04 <Lucifer_arma> jesus fucking christ
20:04 <spidey> narrow down the lol
20:04 <spidey> 'er
20:04 <spidey> just
20:04 <spidey> lol
20:04 <Lucifer_arma> Steve Harris has been in Iron Maiden since before my wife was born!
20:04 <mkzelda> i had no way to get back to it tho
20:04 <tramshed> im positive
20:04 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, jesus
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20:04 <tramshed> if im uploading to a bot its not coming from me directly
20:04 <Lucifer_arma> luckily he's the only remaining founding member
20:05 <tramshed> or if it has to im using proxychains
20:05 <Lucifer_arma> it'd be different if it were, say, Bruce Dickinson
20:05 <Lucifer_arma> that would make my wife a kid!
20:05 <tramshed> iron maiden pwns
20:05 <spidey> tramshed, you're missing the point
20:05 <spidey> aslong as there's logs, there's allways a way
20:05 <spidey> you'd have to find a once in a chance proxy that doesn't log
20:05 <mkzelda> you dont log those things
20:05 <Lucifer_arma> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauren_Harris <--- ok, his daughter's hot
20:05 <tramshed> and how many proxies that dont know they are proxys keep logs
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20:06 <spidey> mkzelda, he's talking about proxies, and not to mention ircnetworks keep logs :p
20:06 <mkzelda> i'd put it in her pooper
20:06 <tramshed> heh spidey, its a whole different world im talking about
20:06 <Lucifer_arma> she'd kick your ass, mkzelda
20:06 <tramshed> im not talking about public proxies
20:06 <mkzelda> FULL FORCE
20:06 <tramshed> im talking about random computers all around the world that dont have any clue they are proxies
20:06 <Lucifer_arma> I'd do her as a surrogate for her father
20:07 <tramshed> you ever use fu mkzelda?
20:07 <Lucifer_arma> it's cool that she got "discovered" on her own
20:07 <Lucifer_arma> you know, that her daddy didn't get her into music and she had to do it on her own
20:07 <Lucifer_arma> I wonder what family gettogethers are like, though
20:07 <mkzelda> nah, tho if you're on the same subject, i imagine its like some things i have used
20:08 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, think you could give me a hand later tonight getting 9250 drivers installed on ubuntu? :D
20:08 <tramshed> fu made software completely undetectable once running
20:08 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: unlikely
20:08 <mkzelda> ah yeah
20:08 <spidey> ;(
20:08 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: I don't have any clue what you're saying, therefore I probably can't help much
20:08 <tramshed> even fu couldnt find it anymore
20:08 <mkzelda> i've used something like that for some hacked win boxes
20:08 <spidey> ati radeon 9250 drivers
20:08 <tramshed> set up your software to run and fu itself at boot
20:08 <tramshed> then fu the files as well
20:08 <tramshed> and its unremoveable
20:08 <mkzelda> ive put some ftp servers and bncs
20:09 <mkzelda> on some hacked pubs, and used hidewndw for that
20:09 <mkzelda> hides it from the task manager, window does show up, etc
20:09 <tramshed> fu does it much more
20:09 <tramshed> fu hides it from the kernel itself
20:09 <mkzelda> change a few bytes so that norton doesnt recognize the program
20:10 <tramshed> he FU rootkit can hide processes, elevate process privileges, fake out the Windows Event Viewer so that forensics is impossible, and even hide device drivers (NEW!). (Look, Mom, no hands!) It does all this by Direct Kernel Object Manipulation (TM); no hooking! This project has been evolving other time. It was originally conceived as a proof-of-concept. FU is a play on words from the UNIX program "su" used to elevate privilege.
20:10 <tramshed> found it, hehe
20:10 <tramshed> didnt think it would still be in development but it is
20:10 <tramshed> its not actually a rootkit, just helps them out
20:10 <mkzelda> those things always are
20:10 <mkzelda> in development i mean
20:11 <tramshed> nah
20:11 <tramshed> most die off and are replaced by something else
20:11 <mkzelda> yea and their references still say 'in development' 5 years later
20:11 <tramshed> its rare development continues on a single project for more than a year or two
20:11 <mkzelda> thats what i meant
20:11 <tramshed> yeah
20:11 <mkzelda> psybnc heh
20:12 <mkzelda> so out of date
20:12 <mkzelda> and still so buggy
20:12 <mkzelda> whats its successor?
20:12 <tramshed> theres other bncs out there
20:12 <mkzelda> and not some passthru bnc, i mean a session saving one
20:13 <mkzelda> a detachable bnc successor
20:13 <mkzelda> ive been looking for a few years and havent found anything
20:14 <tramshed> ever look on sourceforge?
20:14 <tramshed> they have plenty
20:14 <mkzelda> yea but ive yet to find what i want/like
20:15 <mkzelda> im happy enuf w/ psy that im still using it and know how to workaround the bugs
20:16 <mkzelda> like the fact that the listen socket doesnt close properly at times, and so you wont be able to log back in w/o restarting the process
20:17 <tramshed> you could fix it yourself!
20:17 <tramshed> heh
20:17 <mkzelda> i just wrote a script to check it and restart it
20:17 <mkzelda> western medicine
20:18 <mkzelda> treat the symptoms, not the ailment
20:19 <mkzelda> im out for a bit
20:20 <tramshed> later
20:21 <spidey> <ChanServ> [Draq] You're all fat and your god(s) hate you.
20:21 <spidey> rofl
20:21 <MrBougo> spidey?
20:22 <mkzelda> nexuiz bougo? :D
20:22 <Lucifer_arma> Dickinson was later expelled from Oundle for urinating in the headmaster's dinner.
20:22 <mkzelda> heh
20:22 <spidey> O.O
20:22 <mkzelda> spidey do you play nexuiz?
20:22 <mkzelda> you play everything else
20:23 <spidey> i have played it, yes
20:23 <spidey> warsaw
20:23 <spidey> lots of stuff
20:23 <mkzelda> play me in nexuiz
20:23 <spidey> haven't played it in awhile
20:24 <mkzelda> 1v1 GA ladder server is prolly best ping for us
20:24 <spidey> ok fine, but you have to play me in halo
20:25 <mkzelda> after realizing how much ping makes a difference in nexuiz, i dunno how we all play on euro servers
20:25 <mkzelda> i dont have halo or windows vista
20:25 <spidey> screw both of them :)
20:25 <spidey> halo is for windows xp < btw
20:25 <spidey> 'er
20:25 <spidey> windows xp >
20:25 <mkzelda> oh i was thinking halo 2?
20:25 <spidey> yea
20:25 <mkzelda> i know someone made a patch but i thot i'd bitch
20:25 <spidey> plus i play all kinds
20:26 * digitx is away (bye)
20:26 <spidey> from the crack, to the trial, to the legit game
20:26 <spidey> different crowds in each
20:26 <spidey> kinda fun
20:26 <spidey> i wonder
20:26 <spidey> is it illegal for me to have the halo crack if i own 2 legit copies of the game?
20:27 <mkzelda> yes
20:27 <spidey> ;(
20:27 <spidey> oh wel
20:27 <spidey> l
20:27 <Stewie-Arma> no...
20:27 <Stewie-Arma> hopefully...
20:27 <spidey> ok
20:27 <mkzelda> it doesnt make much sense, but, another example thats even dumber,
20:27 <spidey> i'll play nexuiz if you play tremulous :)
20:28 <mkzelda> if you download an mp3, thats illegal, then if you copy paste it and have "Copy of IllegalSong.mp3" you've now broken it twice
20:28 <spidey> my games folder is getting close to 30gb :/
20:28 <mkzelda> but how the hell u gonna use 2 copies of the same song
20:28 <mkzelda> i installed tremulous
20:28 <mkzelda> tried to play once
20:28 <mkzelda> but i didnt understand it
20:28 <spidey> i can explain :)
20:28 <mkzelda> cool
20:28 <spidey> downloading nexuiz
20:28 <Stewie-Arma> rofl spidey...
20:29 <mkzelda> ive been playing the original diablo lately
20:29 <mkzelda> lol
20:29 <Stewie-Arma> my games folder is about 12gigs
20:29 <spidey> yay
20:29 <mkzelda> my nexuiz folder is about 15gigs
20:29 <mkzelda> heh
20:29 <spidey> 800kb/s and still taking 8 minutes
20:29 <spidey> o.O
20:29 <mkzelda> i record everything
20:29 <spidey> i could get 273mb in 8 minutes on 3mbit!
20:29 <Stewie-Arma> why?
20:30 <spidey> lets see
20:30 <mkzelda> so i can go back and watch it later and learn from it
20:30 <mkzelda> or send pwnage to other ppl
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20:30 <spidey> my biggest folder in \games is 4.45gb
20:30 <mkzelda> or make videos from it (one day)
20:30 <spidey> grand theft auto san andreas
20:30 <spidey> wait
20:30 <spidey> no
20:30 <mkzelda> u use rapidshit a lot right?
20:30 <spidey> \Steam
20:30 <MrBougo> eek
20:30 <spidey> it's over 12 gb
20:31 <spidey> yes, i used rapidshare alot
20:31 <mkzelda> do you pay the nominal fee?
20:31 <spidey> yea
20:31 <mkzelda> ah
20:31 <mkzelda> i wondered
20:31 <Stewie-Arma> I wouldn't pay for rapidshit
20:31 <MrBougo> for RS?
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20:31 <mkzelda> i found something that said how to get around the shit
20:31 <MrBougo> me either, Stewie-Arma
20:31 <mkzelda> but i didnt try it
20:31 <MrBougo> WANNA PAY SO I DONT HAVE TO ENTER A 4-CHAR CODE
20:31 <spidey> you can get alot of stuff from rapidshare
20:31 <mkzelda> i found some german clone of rapidshit
20:31 <spidey> MrBougo, wrong
20:31 <mkzelda> that i figured out how to abuse
20:32 <MrBougo> i know spidey
20:32 <MrBougo> i'm exxagerating a lot :)
20:32 <mkzelda> and not have to click every damn thing once at a time
20:32 <MrBougo> theres that premium zone
20:32 <MrBougo> remute upload
20:32 <MrBougo> remote*
20:32 <spidey> yea
20:32 <MrBougo> alt servers
20:32 <spidey> rapidget
20:32 <spidey> is what i use
20:32 <MrBougo> crap
20:32 <spidey> copy/paste links
20:32 <MrBougo> that client?
20:32 <spidey> voila
20:32 <MrBougo> c/p links? chats that
20:32 <MrBougo> whats*
20:32 <spidey> ...
20:32 <spidey> rapidget is a client so you can copy/paste alot of links and download them all at once
20:32 <MrBougo> seriously
20:32 <mkzelda> copypasta
20:33 <MrBougo> oh ok
20:33 <spidey> so you don't have to use firefox every single time
20:33 <spidey> that gets annoying
20:33 <MrBougo> indeed
20:33 <mkzelda> i use wget/curl anyhow
20:33 <Stewie-Arma> mkzelda are you from the internets?
20:33 <MrBougo> you can have unlimited dl's with RS premium
20:33 <MrBougo> i can too!
20:33 <MrBougo> dynami ip roxx :D
20:33 <Stewie-Arma> >:3
20:33 <mkzelda> yeah, i was born here
20:33 <spidey> ...
20:33 <spidey> rebooting the modem after every download is retarded :p
20:33 <mkzelda> yes
20:33 <spidey> mkzelda, 3 minutes
20:34 <mkzelda> k
20:34 <mkzelda> u get the extra mappack?
20:34 <mkzelda> :D
20:34 <spidey> no
20:34 <MrBougo> either
20:34 <Stewie-Arma> there's an extra mappack?
20:34 <MrBougo> yup
20:34 <MrBougo> with nexuiz
20:34 <spidey> it's downloading now
20:34 <mkzelda> yea, has all the quake remakes and stuff
20:34 <spidey> 4 minutes
20:34 <MrBougo> why would i download a pack i dont need
20:34 <MrBougo> i only plkay online
20:34 <MrBougo> and these servs dont use maps from the pack
20:34 <mkzelda> b/c those maps are used on most online servers
20:34 <spidey> now i'm downloading at 1,000kb/s
20:34 <spidey> O.O
20:34 <MrBougo> RBI ctf roxx
20:35 <MrBougo> my fave serv
20:35 <mkzelda> RBI uses a lot of those maps
20:35 <MrBougo> 16 players max
20:35 <MrBougo> does it?
20:35 <mkzelda> yes
20:35 <MrBougo> oh lol
20:35 <Stewie-Arma> I hate having 5mb/s shared -.-
20:35 <MrBougo> bah, i downthemall
20:35 <MrBougo> eek Stewie-Arma
20:35 <mkzelda> RBI has more maps then most anywhere
20:35 <MrBougo> shared :x
20:35 <mkzelda> i host a nexuiz repository
20:35 <Stewie-Arma> cause right now my brother is downloading shit too
20:35 <MrBougo> do you?
20:35 <mkzelda> so you're welcome to rape it one day
20:35 <MrBougo> lol
20:36 <Stewie-Arma> MrBougo: it's a family of 4
20:36 <spidey> http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/2605/wootsf4.jpg
20:36 <spidey> keep in mind i only pay for 6mbit
20:36 <MrBougo> ack
20:36 <MrBougo> with 4 computers, Stewie-Arma ?
20:37 <mkzelda> you're the first ive seen use xchat in windows
20:37 <Stewie-Arma> actually there are 6 computers
20:37 <MrBougo> oh, i noticed a typo on your screen spidey
20:37 <MrBougo> thankl you
20:37 <MrBougo> i meant play
20:37 <MrBougo> not plkay
20:37 <spidey> rofl
20:37 <Stewie-Arma> and 4 external HDs ;P
20:37 <MrBougo> and tyhank too
20:37 <MrBougo> thankl
20:37 <MrBougo> thank
20:37 <MrBougo> fuckl
20:37 <MrBougo> DMAN L KEY WHAT ARE Y>OU DOING THERE
20:37 <MrBougo> crap
20:37 <MrBougo> i blame my lkeyboard
20:38 <MrBougo> ...
20:38 <Stewie-Arma> your one keyboard?
20:38 <spidey> rofl
20:38 <MrBougo> nah, it's a L
20:38 <MrBougo> damn L
20:38 <MrBougo> we dont need you
20:38 <Stewie-Arma> I'M CALLING IT A 1 THANK YOU!
20:38 <MrBougo> this sentence doesnt have any
20:38 <MrBougo> it's useless
20:38 <MrBougo> oh crap
20:38 <MrBougo> i meant its useess
20:38 <MrBougo> now it isnt anymore
20:39 <Stewie-Arma> woot downloading at 900
20:39 <mkzelda> FUCK OFF ALDARIS
20:39 <spidey> 14 seconds
20:39 <MrBougo> woot
20:39 <mkzelda> I dont need any additional pylons.
20:39 <MrBougo> ima nex
20:39 <Stewie-Arma> #weather 92037
20:39 <armabot> Stewie-Arma: The current temperature in La Jolla Shores, La Jolla, California is 74.1°F (11:39 AM PDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 62.6°F. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Falling).
20:39 <mkzelda> #weather 27545
20:39 <armabot> mkzelda: The current temperature in Hedingham, Raleigh, North Carolina is 101.7°F (2:44 PM EDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 34%. Dew Point: 68.0°F. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007.0 hPa (Falling). Excessive heat warning in effect until 7 PM EDT this evening...
20:39 <spidey> #weather 38256
20:39 <Stewie-Arma> YES YOU DO NEED MORE FUCKING PYLONS!
20:39 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 97.7°F (1:44 PM CDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 29%. Dew Point: 60.8°F. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012.4 hPa (Falling).
20:39 <mkzelda> im still full of win here
20:39 <Stewie-Arma> >:3
20:40 <mkzelda> excessive heat warning eh?
20:40 <mkzelda> thank captain obvious of the meteorilogical society
20:40 <spidey> lol
20:41 <mkzelda> i walked outside and figured that one out
20:41 <mkzelda> my a/c cant keep up
20:41 <Stewie-Arma> mkzelda you failed the test...
20:41 <mkzelda> i set it at 78, and its 83
20:41 <mkzelda> runs all day
20:42 <mkzelda> oraleigh?
20:42 <spidey> ok
20:42 <spidey> done
20:42 <spidey> now i have to wait for my brother to finish uploading
20:42 <mkzelda> start the game up and find 1v1 GA ladder server
20:42 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
20:42 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 93.9°F (1:45 PM CDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 66.2°F. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Falling).
20:42 <Stewie-Arma> aww seems to be warming up just a little bit there luci
20:42 <Lucifer_arma> oh fuck, I forgot to weigh myself this morning
20:43 <Stewie-Arma> lol planning to sweat off some weight?
20:43 <Lucifer_arma> yeah :)
20:43 <Lucifer_arma> was about to go jump on the trampoline out there
20:43 <Stewie-Arma> lol
20:43 <MrBougo> dont forget to put it in the garden
20:43 <Stewie-Arma> it doesn't seem to be to hot out there, you need a sauna dude
20:43 <MrBougo> trampoline inside can give headaches
20:43 <mkzelda> spidey: i cant alt tab out of nexuiz like windows users can
20:43 <MrBougo> and it's not about oxygen or stuff
20:43 <Lucifer_arma> neither of my torrents are going anymore :(
20:44 <mkzelda> so ill stay here till i know u've found the server
20:44 <Stewie-Arma> zelda do you use linux?
20:44 <mkzelda> yes
20:44 <Stewie-Arma> lol luci my one torrent is going at 180
20:44 <mkzelda> gentoo for about 5 years now
20:44 <Stewie-Arma> I used to have a linux box
20:44 <Stewie-Arma> but then my brother fucked it up
20:44 <Lucifer_arma> what port does bittorrent use?
20:45 <Stewie-Arma> you set it
20:45 <Lucifer_arma> default, dumbass
20:45 <Lucifer_arma> :)
20:45 <Stewie-Arma> my default was 9090
20:45 <Lucifer_arma> (If I haven't set a port, then I'm using the default....)
20:45 <MrBougo> i'm on galt's gulch CTF
20:45 <MrBougo> if someone wanna join :)
20:45 <mkzelda> default w/o specifying in a client is 6881
20:46 <MrBougo> 3 places free
20:46 <mkzelda> ill join galts then
20:46 <mkzelda> cya there
20:46 <Stewie-Arma> still got 3 minutes
20:46 <mkzelda> i run a server too btw, but upstream only supports 4 players excluding me
20:46 <spidey> mkzelda, i don't see it
20:48 <Lucifer_arma> ok, opening the port seems to have kicked off more downloading
20:49 <Lucifer_arma> what do the colors on the bar mean?
20:49 <spidey> green = good
20:49 <spidey> yellow = decent
20:49 <spidey> red = bad
20:49 <spidey> i think, depends on the client
20:49 <mkzelda> sometimes if you recontact the tracker you can pick up more clients
20:49 <spidey> mkzelda, server?
20:50 <spidey> can't find it
20:50 <Lucifer_arma> standard client
20:50 <mkzelda> i havent used 'mainline' in years Lucifer_ i dunno
20:50 <mkzelda> spidey: try connect mkzelda.mkzelda.com
20:50 <Lucifer_arma> I was wondering because I thought red meant "what you haven't downloaded yet", but turns out it only meant "not available yet"
20:50 <spidey> how?
20:50 <mkzelda> press shift+esc on title screen
20:50 <mkzelda> to open console
20:50 <mkzelda> then type connect mkzelda.mkzelda.com
20:50 <Lucifer_arma> I'm guessing someone was setup to not share to people not sharing, and when I opened the port that made it possible for me to share
20:51 <mkzelda> u may not be able to connect, my power went out and i havent had a chance to fix everything
20:51 <spidey> failed
20:51 <mkzelda> k
20:51 <mkzelda> u dont see something that has 1v1 GA ladder or NY ladder?
20:51 <mkzelda> in the list of servers
20:51 <spidey> no
20:52 <mkzelda> try connect 64.22.107.122:26001
20:52 <spidey> cani copy/paste?
20:52 <mkzelda> i dunno
20:52 <spidey> ;/
20:52 <mkzelda> i give u permission
20:53 <mkzelda> lol i joined gaults gulch, went on a 5 kill spree and capped the flag, and quit
20:53 <mkzelda> Mr. Bougo's 3 kill spree was ended by Winston
20:54 <spidey> worked
20:54 <spidey> you can copy/paste
20:54 <spidey> btw
20:54 <mkzelda> k ill join u there
20:54 <spidey> is this onyour home connection?
20:54 <spidey> 49 ping ftw
20:54 <mkzelda> you'd get lower if it were my connection :D
20:59 <mkzelda> lemme see why my server isnt workin
21:00 <spidey> fixed my laggy thingy
21:00 <mkzelda> oh my ip changed when power went out
21:00 <spidey> lowered my gfx settings
21:00 <spidey> now it feels smooth
21:00 <mkzelda> connect 66.57.106.165
21:00 <mkzelda> see what your ping is there
21:01 <mkzelda> sorry i forgot to turn server on at first heh, its up now
21:01 <spidey> k
21:01 <spidey> coming
21:02 <mkzelda> on this server i can see when you join
21:03 <mkzelda> there u are
21:07 <MrBougo> mkzelda?
21:07 <MrBougo> did you leave?
21:26 <epsy> #m wrtlprnft There's one thing i don't like in your cockpit file: rubber and impact meter should be on the same side...it's hard otherwise for gheygit attacks ;P
21:26 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
21:28 <epsy> hoop_tron, ?
21:28 <hoop_tron> epsy: ?
21:28 <epsy> don't /part #tards ... a channel is made for ppl to go in ;P
21:29 <hoop_tron> /part ?
21:29 <epsy> that's the cmd to leave a channel
21:29 <hoop_tron> ooo
21:29 <hoop_tron> nobody there, tackng a nap
21:29 <epsy> there's me and a bot
21:29 <epsy> (meh)
21:30 <epsy> huhu i feel so alone
21:30 <hoop_tron> nice game for who like programming ===> cyty.com/robocom/
21:31 * epsy *will cry*
21:31 <epsy> /lastseen/+f-Monkey
21:31 <epsy> erf
21:32 <epsy> #lastseen -f Monkey
21:32 <hoop_tron> :,(
21:32 <armabot> epsy: Monkey has last been seen on Fortress Café 1 hour 6 minutes ago.
21:32 <epsy> )': :,(
21:34 <epsy> hmm i'm in the top 10 already
21:34 <epsy> hmm toasty toasty
21:35 <epsy> #q
21:35 <armabot> epsy: Quote #12: "'ebuild blah portage rocks emerge hotplug coldplig - armabot mashuffle'" (added by n54 at 05:44 PM, March 29, 2006)
21:35 <epsy> #armalogs
21:35 <epsy> ;P
21:36 <epsy> #armaservers
21:36 <armabot> epsy: This data is 56 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (11/14), Wild West =Capture The Flag= (9/10), ¬| D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (9/16), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (9/14), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (9/12), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (8/12), Wild West =Wild Fortress= (8/12), Wild West =Capture The Flag= (8/10), Wild West =Wild (2 more messages)
21:36 <MrBougo> bye
21:36 <epsy> cu
21:36 <epsy> #more
21:36 <epsy> #more
21:36 <armabot> epsy: Fortress= (8/12), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (8/12), ~"XzL.Clan The Server (7/12), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (7/12), Strawberry Fields (7/16), Strawberry Fields (6/16), Chico's Brake Boost Styball (5/8), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (5/12), ~"XzL.Clan The Server (5/12), .[Ak4]. Clan Server (4/4), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (4/12), .[Ak4]. Clan Server (4/4), SPACEZONE III (1 more message)
21:36 <armabot> epsy: TEAM PLAY (3/15), Wildcat (3/16), Server.iZm (3/8), SPACEZONE III TEAM PLAY (3/15), Wildcat (3/16), G-Land (2/8), G-Land (2/8), Bugfarm Elimination Sumo (1/16), Super Duck Nano Fortress! (1/14), Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (1/6), Super Duck Nano Fortress! (1/14)
21:37 <epsy> fortress is getting damn sick :/
21:40 <MrBougo> night
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21:52 * spidey notes out of all the games he's played
21:52 <spidey> that's the first time he's had his ass kicked that bad
21:52 <mkzelda> haha
21:52 <mkzelda> i was holding back, honestly
21:53 <mkzelda> i was throwin guns at you and killing w/ laserz
21:53 <spidey> lol
21:53 <mkzelda> ive been playing that game since june 20
21:54 <mkzelda> and i wasnt ever that good at FPS games on computer cause i had no mouse aim
21:54 <luke-jr> and cuz u just plain suck
21:54 <mkzelda> if i had to play someone in halo on xbox or goldeneye on n64
21:54 <spidey> your momma
21:54 <spidey> t@luke
21:54 <spidey> -t
21:54 <mkzelda> u wanna play luke?
21:54 <spidey> he can't even play tremulous
21:54 <spidey> heh
21:55 <mkzelda> physically, mentally, or his pc sucks or what?
21:55 <spidey> none of the above
21:55 <spidey> he just plan sucks
21:55 <mkzelda> oh
21:55 <mkzelda> so its the pot calling the kettle black
21:55 <spidey> got 3 people in a game
21:55 <spidey> forgot who
21:55 <spidey> from here
21:55 <spidey> they got served :p
21:55 <spidey> them vs me :o
21:55 <mkzelda> i spectated a few games of that
21:55 <mkzelda> i didnt understand it
21:56 <spidey> well
21:56 <spidey> it's a mix of fps and rts
21:56 <mkzelda> seemed like a lot of strategy
21:56 <spidey> basically you need builders
21:56 <spidey> and attackers
21:56 <spidey> and defenders
21:56 <spidey> or
21:56 <spidey> if you have a decent team
21:56 <spidey> you can get away with no builders/defenders
21:56 <mkzelda> its got 2 races and they work different?
21:57 <spidey> sorta
21:57 <spidey> for each thing one team has, the other team has something to counter it
21:57 <spidey> the aliens most powerful alien > tyrant
21:57 <spidey> 400hp
21:57 <spidey> kills bare humans in 1 swipe
21:57 <spidey> humans counter > battlesuits and lucifer cannons
21:57 <spidey> luci cannons kill rants in 2 hits at full charge
21:57 <luke-jr> mkzelda: no, you just suck :P
21:57 <luke-jr> period
21:58 <spidey> luke-jr, your momma
21:58 <luke-jr> jk btw
21:59 <spidey> mkzelda, i would setup a private server and teach ya how to play
21:59 <spidey> but i'd have to forward ports which means restarting the iprouting on the modem, because it's gay
21:59 <mkzelda> but...?
21:59 <spidey> and the public servers we have are always full
22:00 <mkzelda> you have to turn it on
22:00 <spidey> if you don't mind playing with alot of other people, i'll teach ya :)
22:00 <mkzelda> cause its gay
22:00 <spidey> lol
22:01 <spidey> you mind playing with about 20 others?
22:02 <spidey> both servers have 20 people in them
22:02 <spidey> lol
22:02 <mkzelda> i dont wanna be the noob that has someone explaining everything in front of 20 others
22:02 <spidey> rofl
22:02 <spidey> well
22:02 <spidey> there's private message, though i don't feel like using all that
22:02 <spidey> so
22:03 <spidey> you have teamspeak installed?
22:03 <spidey> it could be worse ya know
22:03 <spidey> you could be the noob that has 20 people bitching at them for fucking up the whole team :p
22:04 <spidey> which we have alot of, but people think a kickvote is needed, -.-
22:04 <mkzelda> i have teamspeak but i havent used it in months
22:04 <mkzelda> dunno if its still good
22:04 <spidey> try to connect to teamspeak.antric.net
22:04 <mkzelda> it took some time to get the mic levels good
22:04 <spidey> heh
22:05 <spidey> 2 slots left in the regular gameplay server ;(
22:05 <spidey> er
22:05 <spidey> now it's full
22:05 <mkzelda> i can run a server i suppose
22:05 <spidey> that'll work :)
22:05 <spidey> though
22:06 <spidey> i'll warn, if you run a serve ron the same pc, it'll lag pretty bad
22:06 <spidey> i used to have to run one on my local server
22:06 <mkzelda> nah i have another computer for that
22:06 <mkzelda> i just have to install it
22:07 <spidey> actually
22:07 <spidey> hm
22:07 <Stewie-Arma> hmmm
22:08 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.org/tremstats/fa/index.php
22:08 <mkzelda> does the server run from the client?
22:08 <spidey> :D
22:08 <mkzelda> or can i start it
22:08 <mkzelda> w/o
22:08 <spidey> erm
22:08 <mkzelda> dedicated
22:09 <spidey> can you connect to teamspeak?
22:09 <mkzelda> oh i got distracted by running a server
22:09 <spidey> lol
22:09 <spidey> it's a bit more complicated than just starting a server
22:10 <spidey> i run the backport client, which uses a different protocol than the standard client
22:10 <spidey> so i couldn't connect
22:10 <mkzelda> cheater
22:10 <spidey> ?
22:10 <mkzelda> u see me on teamspeak?
22:11 <spidey> yea
22:11 <spidey> hear me?
22:11 <mkzelda> test again
22:11 <mkzelda> yeah
22:11 <mkzelda> you sound like you caught the gay from your modem
22:11 <mkzelda> :D
22:11 <spidey> ....
22:11 <spidey> :(
22:11 <spidey> O.o
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22:18 <HellBlade-Arma> hmm it still recognizes me as here
22:19 <HellBlade-Arma> question: for tremulous is the zip download there for mac?
22:19 <HellBlade-Arma> nvm
22:20 <HellBlade-Arma> I found it
22:23 <epsy> hay
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22:24 <HellBlade-Arma> hay!
22:30 <epsy> =)
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22:53 <mkzelda> i still dont understand that game
22:54 <mkzelda> i didnt have sound cause teamspeak stole it
22:58 <spidey> lol
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23:09 <Rebel_Eclipsed> luke-jr, you there?
23:10 <spidey> he died
23:10 <Rebel_Eclipsed> The Eclipse'd Server is listing twice... how do I fix it... or is that server side?
23:10 <spidey> all his hosting r belong to us
23:10 <Rebel_Eclipsed> hey Spidey...
23:10 <spidey> #weather 38256
23:11 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Dover, TN - LBL, Dover, Tennessee is 98.4°F (4:15 PM CDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: 64.4°F. Pressure: 29.82 in 1009.7 hPa (Falling).
23:11 <Rebel_Eclipsed> Spidey from |FA| ?
23:11 <spidey> yea
23:11 <Rebel_Eclipsed> cool set of servers your Clan has
23:11 <spidey> imagen compiling them all
23:11 <Rebel_Eclipsed> the river one doesn't make sense.. but will take time to get used to
23:11 <spidey> and restarting them every weak because the sty patch has a leak, heh
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23:12 <Rebel_Eclipsed> that would suck
23:12 <spidey> al made those configs
23:12 <Rebel_Eclipsed> Yeah he mentioned that
23:12 <spidey> the server listing twice?
23:12 <spidey> well
23:13 <Rebel_Eclipsed> something to worry about?
23:13 <spidey> that's not really it listing twice i think, i think it's 2 servers running
23:13 <spidey> happened to me when i had a server with luke
23:13 <Rebel_Eclipsed> hmm shouldn't be.. I only pay Luke for one
23:13 <spidey> yea
23:13 <spidey> probably a bug in his perfect sudo library
23:13 <spidey> :D
23:14 <Rebel_Eclipsed> I see =D
23:14 <spidey> are you the rebel...
23:14 <spidey> erm
23:14 <Rebel_Eclipsed> You use Linux?
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23:14 <spidey> xlz rebel?
23:14 <Rebel_Eclipsed> GridPirate
23:14 <spidey> o
23:14 <Rebel_Eclipsed> y'know the evil baddy
23:14 <luke-jr> ?
23:14 <spidey> yea i use linux some
23:14 <Rebel_Eclipsed> Hey Luke...
23:14 <Rebel_Eclipsed> Eclipse'd is listing twice
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23:15 <luke-jr> not anymore
23:15 <spidey> heh
23:15 <spidey> told ya :D
23:15 <spidey> luke-jr, i'm sending a hitman after you
23:16 <Rebel_Eclipsed> saw this Linux comic...
23:16 <Rebel_Eclipsed> "Make me a sandwhich"
23:16 <Rebel_Eclipsed> "no way!"
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23:16 <Rebel_Eclipsed> "sudo make me a sandwich"
23:16 <Rebel_Eclipsed> "ok"
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23:39 <mkzelda> #weather 27545
23:39 <armabot> mkzelda: The current temperature in Hedingham, Raleigh, North Carolina is 97.2°F (5:43 PM EDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: 66.2°F. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007.0 hPa (Steady). Excessive heat warning in effect until 7 PM EDT this evening...
23:40 <Lucifer_arma> fuck me
23:47 <Lucifer_arma> that sucks
23:47 <Lucifer_arma> torrents had to start over because BITTORRENT IS STUPID
23:48 <spidey> Lucifer_arma,
23:48 <spidey> what's the name of the band?
23:50 <Lucifer_arma> xentrix
23:50 <Lucifer_arma> I got it restarted, with the same urls and files and shit
23:50 <spidey> xentrix
23:50 <Lucifer_arma> I had to move the temporary directory off a partition because it ran out of space
23:50 <spidey> found that album
23:51 <spidey> on rapidshare
23:51 <spidey> er
23:51 <spidey> Xentrix - Ghostbusters Ep Rare Banned OOP Classic brit Metal
23:51 <spidey> that album
23:51 <Lucifer_arma> so when it restarted, for some reason it wouldn't use the same stuff it already had
23:51 <Lucifer_arma> get it? ;)
23:51 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: I'm sorry that spidey raped your wife.
23:51 <Lucifer_arma> I can give you a ssh account on my machine and you can scp it there whenever it's done ;)
23:51 <spidey> only 3 songs
23:51 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, it's small
23:52 <Lucifer_arma> it was suppressed because of their use of the ghostbusters logo on the cover art
23:52 <spidey> should only take 2 minutes to download
23:52 <spidey> <3 800+kb/s
23:52 <Lucifer_arma> :)
23:52 <spidey> 20 seconds
23:52 <spidey> lol
23:52 <spidey> 12mb
23:52 <Lucifer_arma> does the peer list include me?
23:53 <spidey> well
23:53 <Lucifer_arma> ah hell, you could send them via irc
23:53 <spidey> those lists are updated every so often
23:53 <spidey> so if you just joined, you might not be on there
23:53 <Lucifer_arma> so it should include me?
23:53 <spidey> "should"
23:53 <spidey> you mean the tracker peer list?
23:53 <Lucifer_arma> so it says "3 peers", but it means "me + 2 others"?
23:53 <spidey> oh
23:53 <Lucifer_arma> no, the one in my client
23:53 <spidey> no those are peers you're connected to
23:53 <spidey> if it says something like
23:54 <spidey> 2(50)
23:54 <spidey> that means there's 50 peers
23:54 <spidey> and you're connected to 2 of them
23:54 <Lucifer_arma> but I'm connected to 2
23:54 <Lucifer_arma> got it
23:54 <Lucifer_arma> only says 3, and they're probably the only 3 fans of this band in existence
23:54 <Lucifer_arma> well, besides me
23:55 <spidey> spidey
23:55 <spidey> you getthat dcc request?
23:57 <GodTodd> oh...in case luke forgot he's ignored: [2007-08-10 16:56] <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: I'm sorry that spidey raped your wife.
23:57 <GodTodd> :)
23:57 <Lucifer_arma> er, did not
23:57 <spidey> ;/
23:57 <Lucifer_arma> (that was to spidey, not luke)
23:57 <Lucifer_arma> (I doubt spidey could successfully rape my wife)
23:58 <spidey> nor would i want to
23:58 <Lucifer_arma> (she's not one of those wussy catholic girls, don't forget)
23:58 <spidey> i've got lukes wife for that
23:59 <GodTodd> 'nor would i want to' could be taken as an insult of her hotness
23:59 <Lucifer_arma> did you get my dcc request?
23:59 <spidey> yea
23:59 <GodTodd> have her kick his butt Lucifer_arma :)
23:59 <spidey> sec
23:59 <spidey> spidey
23:59 * Lucifer_arma notes there's no reason he should give a fuck if anybody else is attracted to his wife
23:59 <spidey> giget that one?
Log from 2007-08-11:
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00:00 <GodTodd> oh...the souls at zero i have is the self titled (assuming that because there are no words other than souls at zero on it)
00:00 <Lucifer_arma> ah wait, I need to open the port
00:00 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: yep, that's the one
00:00 <Lucifer_arma> rip it and upload it? ;)
00:00 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: lemme open the port, hang on
00:00 <spidey> k
00:00 <GodTodd> i think i have it ripped already
00:00 <GodTodd> mp3s ok?
00:00 <Lucifer_arma> prefer vorbis...
00:00 <GodTodd> hrmm
00:01 <Lucifer_arma> if you don't mind ripping it a second time :)
00:01 <Lucifer_arma> if you'd rather not, mp3s are fine
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00:01 <GodTodd> it'd be a little later tonight :)
00:01 <spidey> ripping it again?
00:02 <Lucifer_arma> ok, try now
00:02 <spidey> k
00:02 <spidey> spidey
00:02 <spidey> get that one?
00:03 <Lucifer_arma> er, no :(
00:03 <Lucifer_arma> did it tell you what port it went on?
00:03 <spidey> are you seeing me say my name?
00:03 <Lucifer_arma> no, nowhere
00:03 <spidey> o.o
00:03 <spidey> no it's not telling me what port
00:03 <spidey> it maybe on my end
00:03 <wireddd> you didn't see this?
00:03 <wireddd> <spidey> spidey
00:04 <Lucifer_arma> I saw that, but that's here in this channel....
00:04 <spidey> yea
00:04 <spidey> xchat bug
00:04 <spidey> when i send, or receive a dcc request i say my own name
00:04 <wireddd> in every channel he is on
00:04 <wireddd> very odd bug
00:04 <spidey> -SpamServ- Spamming is against the network rules. Read the network rules at www.gamesurge.net/aup/
00:05 <spidey> haha
00:05 <spidey> i'm getting introuble for spamming :(
00:05 <Lucifer_arma> awwww
00:06 <spidey> ok
00:06 <spidey> want me to scp?
00:06 <Lucifer_arma> hang on then, you've got scp?
00:06 <spidey> yea
00:06 <Lucifer_arma> lemme make an account real quick :)
00:08 <Lucifer_arma> ok, you got my pm?
00:09 <spidey> oh
00:09 <spidey> yea i'm not registered
00:09 <spidey> times out, ports forwarded?
00:10 <Lucifer_arma> ports are forwarded...
00:10 <Lucifer_arma> I'll doublecheck
00:10 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, port is forwarded
00:10 <Lucifer_arma> I've connected to it before from outside my house
00:10 <Lucifer_arma> after rebuilding, that is
00:10 <spidey> hm
00:10 <Lucifer_arma> ping www.davefancella.com
00:11 <Lucifer_arma> what ip address do you get?
00:11 <spidey> Pinging davefancella.com [70.135.90.165] with 32 bytes of data:
00:11 <spidey> Request timed out.
00:11 <luke-jr> spidey: he siad www
00:11 <Lucifer_arma> ah
00:11 <Lucifer_arma> www.davefancella.com
00:11 <spidey> luke-jr, noone asked you, stfu
00:11 <Lucifer_arma> **www**.davefancella.com
00:12 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: still times out
00:12 <luke-jr> PING luciferarma.kicks-ass.net (67.67.219.75) 56(84) bytes of data.
00:12 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, got it
00:12 <spidey> luke-jr, stfu
00:12 <Lucifer_arma> 67.67.219.75 <--- should be the ip address
00:12 <spidey> sending
00:12 <spidey> 3~minutes
00:13 <Lucifer_arma> I need to get the no-ip client installed again, or my domain moved
00:17 <Lucifer_arma> yay
00:17 <Lucifer_arma> ping davefancella.com
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00:18 <spidey> oops
00:18 <spidey> done
00:18 <spidey> btw
00:21 <Lucifer_arma> bbiab, dinner
00:22 <Lucifer_arma> thanks spidey :)
00:22 <spidey> np
00:30 <mkzelda> freakin power is out again
00:45 <Lucifer_arma> #ping
00:45 <armabot> pong
00:45 <epsy> :)
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00:58 <Lucifer_arma> yay, 21 minutes to the two xentrix records actually made
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00:59 <PsYkO> I'm told there is free beer on weekend nights in here.
01:00 <epsy> free beer ... as in free software ?
01:00 <Lucifer_arma> er, looks like there's another one besides that
01:01 <spidey> luke
01:01 <spidey> fuck off
01:08 <PsYkO> So
01:08 <PsYkO> where's my beer?
01:10 <spidey> you're both gay
01:13 <Lucifer_arma> weee, download finished :)
01:14 <PsYkO> midget porn?
01:14 <Lucifer_arma> sure
01:14 <PsYkO> nice
01:14 <Lucifer_arma> the only metal band I've ever actually tried to imitate :)
01:15 <spidey> i deleted the noise
01:15 <spidey> ;D
01:15 <Lucifer_arma> noise?!?!?
01:15 <spidey> noise.
01:15 * epsy is looding drunkadrakuland.com
01:15 <epsy> *floodiing
01:15 <Lucifer_arma> you're flooding the wrong domain then
01:15 <epsy> http://epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539/~epsy/screenshots/2007-08-11-011815.png
01:16 <epsy> Lucifer_arma, it's already down for « cpu overusage »
01:16 <epsy> so keep it overusing it's cpu
01:16 <Lucifer_arma> why attack durka, anyway?
01:16 <spidey> epsy, you must be.......bored
01:16 <epsy> who else has a forum only read my spammers ?
01:16 <epsy> i am
01:16 <epsy> *by
01:16 <Lucifer_arma> epsy.is-a-geek.org
01:17 <Lucifer_arma> speaking of spammers
01:17 <epsy> no forum there :D
01:17 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, you know
01:17 <Lucifer_arma> yes, I know epsy is a smapper
01:17 <PsYkO> durkanoob
01:17 <spidey> i could split the kind load he's doing via 3 servers :D
01:17 <Lucifer_arma> spammer, even
01:17 <spidey> 100mbit
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01:17 <spidey> would be 4, but i value the fa server to much
01:18 <Lucifer_arma> ah yes, still the same cheesy lyrics
01:18 <Lucifer_arma> but you almost dn't hear them because the guitars are so kick-ass
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01:19 <Lucifer_arma> holy shit, it's a thrash line where you can hear the bass separately and distinctly from the guitars
01:21 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: did you finish that Xentrix download?
01:23 <spidey> epsy
01:23 <Lucifer_arma> now I need the rest of Dilute to Taste and I'm happy :)
01:23 <spidey> does durka have a dedicated server?
01:23 <epsy> spidey,
01:23 <spidey> that those forums are on?
01:23 <PsYkO> spidey -> does that matter if no one plays on the server though?
01:24 <epsy> spidey, drunkadrakuland ?
01:24 <spidey> PsYkO, seeing as he's commeting a federal offense, yes
01:24 <spidey> grep -i "connect" apache.log >apache2.log
01:24 <spidey> email that to the isp and bam
01:25 <spidey> but if it's shared hosting
01:25 <spidey> all he has to do is send a email to the company ;p
01:25 <PsYkO> whos going to jail?
01:25 <spidey> didn't say anyone was :p
01:25 <spidey> though, if durka actually did report him, epsy would lose internet and probably be blacklisted
01:26 <Lucifer_arma> epsy's in France
01:26 <spidey> o
01:26 <Lucifer_arma> people in france are allowed to do whatever they want
01:26 <Lucifer_arma> they can't get fired for anything!
01:26 <Lucifer_arma> they're going to apply that philosophy to criminal offenses
01:26 <epsy> no, they do fire for anything
01:26 <epsy> they => frenches
01:27 <Lucifer_arma> it is, after all, inhuman and therefore totally unfrench (and completely american) to deprive someone of their freedom
01:27 <Lucifer_arma> um, french is also a plural noun
01:27 <Lucifer_arma> or whatever
01:27 <Lucifer_arma> we say "the french"
01:27 <epsy> oh
01:27 <Lucifer_arma> actually, we usually say "the surrender monkeys"
01:28 <epsy> :P
01:28 <Lucifer_arma> although I'd be willing to wager real money that you'd last longer in a freeciv game than luke-jr (hi there!)
01:28 <Lucifer_arma> not with you, that would be a conflict of interest
01:29 * epsy doesn't fucking handle civ
01:29 <spidey> now
01:29 <Lucifer_arma> wahahahaha
01:29 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, if i goto sleep right now, will you decide to start another fucking civ game? :(
01:29 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: no, I'm too sleepy myself and my wife and I just decided to go to ummmm
01:30 <Lucifer_arma> that water park in san antonio
01:30 <Lucifer_arma> tomorrow
01:30 <Lucifer_arma> so I have to go to bed myself at a reasonable time
01:30 <spidey> heh
01:30 <PsYkO> whip
01:30 <Lucifer_arma> bt hang on, this is funny
01:30 <Lucifer_arma> http://technocrat.net/d/2007/8/10/24721
01:30 <epsy> i can handle shooting dum soldiers, put bikes in front of a line, but i don't understand civ
01:30 * Lucifer_arma is of the opinion that only single men have any clue what pussywhipped mean, since it doesn't mean anything in a real marriage :)
01:31 <spidey> lolol
01:31 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, y2k bug fucking up global warming studies is fun :)
01:31 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, flaw
01:31 <PsYkO> anyone an original nintendo fan
01:31 <PsYkO> cuz i got something u will love
01:31 <spidey> married men where once single men
01:32 <Lucifer_arma> #dict partnership
01:32 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: wn, bouvier, gcide, and moby-thes responded: wn: partnership n 1: the members of a business venture created by contract 2: a contract between two or more persons who agree to pool talent and money and share profits or losses; moby-thes: 124 Moby Thesaurus words for "partnership": Aktiengesellschaft, Bund, Rochdale cooperative, affiliation, aktiebolag, alignment, alliance, (48 more messages)
01:32 <PsYkO> http://youtube.com/watch?v=ofM11nPzFo0
01:32 <Lucifer_arma> def 2 is probably closest
01:33 <Lucifer_arma> heh
01:33 <Lucifer_arma> google the word "the", and hit "I'm feeling lucky"
01:33 <Lucifer_arma> er
01:33 <Lucifer_arma> #lucky the
01:33 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: Unexpected error from Google; please report this to the Supybot developers.
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01:51 <tramshed> haha
01:52 <tramshed> that topgun thing was hilarious
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02:34 <Lucifer_arma> it seems like there has to be a better way to protect the shuttle during launch
02:34 <Lucifer_arma> like, maybe the heat shield shouldn't be exposed to the elements?
02:35 * Lucifer_arma wonders what a thin, protective coating that gets ejected when the shuttle leaves the atmosphere would mass
02:36 <Stewie-arma> #weather 92037
02:36 <armabot> Stewie-arma: The current temperature in La Jolla Shores, La Jolla, California is 77.0°F (5:40 PM PDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 64.4°F. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011.4 hPa (Falling).
02:45 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
02:45 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 63°F / 17°C | Humidity: 50% | Pressure: 29.91in / 1013hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 2mph / 4km/h | Updated: 9:00 PM ADT; Tonight - Cloudy periods. Wind southwest 20 km/h (12 mph) becoming light this evening. Low 11C(52F).; Saturday - Sunny with cloudy periods. High 24C(75F) except 19C(66F) along the coast. UV index 7 or high. Saturday (1 more message)
02:46 <Vanhayes> #more
02:46 <armabot> Vanhayes: night a few clouds. Low 10C(50F).; Sunday - Sunny. High 25C(77F).;
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02:49 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
02:49 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 88.3°F (7:50 PM CDT on August 10, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 68.0°F. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011.1 hPa (Steady).
02:49 <Lucifer_arma> hey, now that spidey's in bed, wanna play freeciv?
02:49 <Lucifer_arma> (kidding, I just want him to find that and not this when he does a #last)
02:50 <GodTodd> hrmm...what's the best way to get that cd to you Lucifer_arma?
02:50 <Lucifer_arma> scp
02:50 * GodTodd has never used scp...
02:51 <Lucifer_arma> ah
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02:51 <Lucifer_arma> cd to the directory above the one that contains it, for example:
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02:51 <Lucifer_arma> cd /home/share/music/SoulsAtZero
02:51 <Lucifer_arma> then:
02:51 <Lucifer_arma> scp -r SoulsAtZero godtodd@www.davefancella.com:
02:51 <Lucifer_arma> where the SoulsAtZero listed is assumed the name of the album
02:52 <Lucifer_arma> depending on how you organize your music on-disc
02:52 <Lucifer_arma> the important parts are the "-r", which says "recursive", and the colon at the end
02:52 <Lucifer_arma> otherwise it'll copy the whole directory to a local directory named godtodd@www.davefancella.com and you'll feel kinda dumb :)
02:52 <GodTodd> so...i should be in the album's folder?
02:52 <Lucifer_arma> you'll get prompted for a password, which I pmed you a little while ago
02:52 <GodTodd> with the actual songs?
02:53 <Lucifer_arma> one up from the songs
02:53 <Lucifer_arma> it'll end up in your home directory on the server
02:54 <GodTodd> k should be on it's way :)
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02:54 <Lucifer_arma> eek, 12 hours for all of suicidal tendencies
02:54 <GodTodd> i re-ripped it just for you, you know :P
02:54 <Lucifer_arma> yep, it's coming
02:54 <Lucifer_arma> thanks :)
02:54 * GodTodd has 3 ST albums...
02:54 <GodTodd> ;)
02:55 <Lucifer_arma> you'll laugh, but I'm a have to convert to mp3 so it'll play in my dvd player, but I really want ogg on disc
02:55 <GodTodd> np
02:55 <GodTodd> :)
02:55 <Lucifer_arma> I'm willing to sacrifice quality doing ogg->mp3 to get it to a player, but not mp3->ogg, you know how it is :)
02:55 <GodTodd> better to have the oggs as the original that you convert *from*
02:55 <Lucifer_arma> yep :)
02:56 <Lucifer_arma> be nice if I had it setup where I didn't have any mp3s, but that hasn't happened yet, and I'm about to dump a bunch more
02:56 <GodTodd> heh
02:56 <Lucifer_arma> listening to xentrix right now, and very happy about it :)
02:57 <GodTodd> i haven't had a chance to check it out yet
02:57 <GodTodd> i have it down tho :)
02:57 <Lucifer_arma> it's fun :)
02:57 <Lucifer_arma> lyrics are really cheesy, but the music really rocks
02:57 <Lucifer_arma> there is a tendency for all the songs to sound the same
02:57 <GodTodd> that's what thrash is all about isn't it?
02:57 <GodTodd> :)
02:58 <Lucifer_arma> yep :)
02:58 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, you can scp from the server too, if you know what file(s) you want
02:58 <Lucifer_arma> spidey sent up the ghostbusters single that was released, so you can grab that if you want
02:58 <Lucifer_arma> you do it this way:
02:58 <Lucifer_arma> cd /path/to/xentrix/Ghostbusters
02:58 <Lucifer_arma> scp godtodd@davefancella.com:/home/spidey/*.mp3 ./
02:59 <GodTodd> cd on my local filesystem?
02:59 <Lucifer_arma> someday I'll have the stuff located on the other desktop acting as a file server and the internet server will mount it and make it available to you
02:59 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, cd on your local filesystem
02:59 <Lucifer_arma> obviously it's a path you have to create
02:59 <Lucifer_arma> but not by doing "mkdir /path && mkdir /path/to"
02:59 <Lucifer_arma> you know, put it where you put your music :)
03:00 <GodTodd> right
03:00 <Lucifer_arma> (actually seen someone take that sort of thing literally)
03:00 <Lucifer_arma> looks like it's done
03:01 <GodTodd> yep :)
03:02 <Lucifer_arma> thanks :)
03:02 <Lucifer_arma> that CD was in my CD player when the player was stolen out of my car
03:02 <Lucifer_arma> I might still have the liner around here somewhere
03:03 <Lucifer_arma> now I need to mass convert a bunch of oggs to mp3 to burn onto a cd
03:03 <GodTodd> np :)
03:03 <GodTodd> i did steal some music from you a while back
03:03 <GodTodd> so it's time i pay back :)
03:05 <GodTodd> scp: /home/spidey/*.mp3: No such file or directory
03:06 <Lucifer_arma> er
03:06 <Lucifer_arma> put it in quotes, maybe?
03:06 <Lucifer_arma> wildcards have always worked for me before...
03:06 <Lucifer_arma> you could just grab the parent directory, which is spidey
03:07 <GodTodd> nvm
03:07 <GodTodd> you missed the 'xentrix' part of the dir tree :P
03:07 <GodTodd> /home/spidey/xentrix/*.mp3
03:08 <Lucifer_arma> ah, sorry
03:08 <GodTodd> np
03:08 <Lucifer_arma> oh, you could have grabbed just the parent then and gotten the rest
03:08 <GodTodd> ssh fixed it :)
03:08 * Lucifer_arma forgot it went up in a dir
03:08 <Lucifer_arma> :)
03:08 <Lucifer_arma> er, I know an easy way to do this
03:09 <GodTodd> mass conversion?
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03:10 <Durka> #hello
03:10 <armabot> Hello Durka :) Quote #33: "that wasn't a war, that was you losing units trying to attack one city...then mom joined in with howtizers-spidey" (added by spidey at 04:07 AM, November 07, 2006)
03:10 * GodTodd waits for the armabot abuse
03:10 <Durka> hi GodTodd, long time ;)
03:10 <GodTodd> two calc classes in 10 weeks for me...what's your excuse? :P
03:11 * Durka :P
03:11 <Vanhayes> #hello
03:11 <armabot> Hello Vanhayes :) Quote #45: "better an idiot that can admit it than a luke-jr....er, idiot that can't --GodTodd" (added by Lucifer_arma at 03:35 AM, March 12, 2007)
03:11 * Durka pokes Vanhayes
03:11 * Durka :D
03:11 * Vanhayes lets his anger at being poked fester deep, deep inside
03:12 <Durka> Quote from GodTodd: "so...durka finally figured out my secret identity..."
03:12 <Durka> I've been busy this past week and probably won't be able to play for another 2 weeks, at least regularly that is
03:12 <Vanhayes> #quote get 46
03:12 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: There is no Quote with id #46 in my database for #armagetron.
03:12 <Vanhayes> #quote get 47
03:12 <armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #47: "ooo, a fez. I would look awesome in a fez -- Lucifer_arma (2007-04-12 19:38)" (added by MrBougo at 08:48 AM, April 15, 2007)
03:12 <Vanhayes> #quote get 50
03:12 <armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #50: "<epsy_> MrBougo, X frozed <epsy_> no more wrtl+alt+del" (added by epsy at 03:53 PM, July 09, 2007)
03:13 <Vanhayes> #quote get 55
03:13 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: There is no Quote with id #55 in my database for #armagetron.
03:13 <Vanhayes> #quote get 53
03:13 <armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #53: "I missed a little hole the other day, it was embarassing --/dev/null" (added by Lucifer_arma at 05:44 PM, August 10, 2007)
03:13 <Vanhayes> heh there it is
03:13 <Vanhayes> wow I remember when there were only 10 or so qoutes in here
03:14 <GodTodd> my favorite:
03:14 <GodTodd> #quote get 21
03:14 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #21: "<Luke-Jr_work__> btw, pedophile is good" (added by spidey at 06:34 AM, September 09, 2006)
03:14 <Vanhayes> heh
03:14 <Vanhayes> #quote get 20
03:14 <armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #20: "ok luci, you'd know better on this one -- luke-jr" (added by wrtlprnft at 02:26 PM, August 24, 2006)
03:17 -!- CT|P4 is now known as P4
03:21 <Vanhayes> #quote get 17
03:21 <armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #17: "And I hate dying nearly as much as I hate Vanhayes. --featherfcuk" (added by Lucifer_arma at 02:02 AM, June 14, 2006)
03:21 <Vanhayes> #quote get 18
03:21 <armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #18: "so you can't send a note to spidey or other noobs. -wrtlprnft" (added by Vanhayes at 05:23 AM, June 21, 2006)
03:21 <Vanhayes> #quote get 19
03:21 <armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #19: "If we were wolves and we snuck into China, they'd try to eat us, but we'd eat them. --Lucifer's Son" (added by Lucifer_arma at 11:36 PM, July 05, 2006)
03:24 <Vanhayes> #eliza It's been a while
03:24 <armabot> Vanhayes: Can you elaborate on that?
03:24 <Vanhayes> #eliza it has been a while since we last talked
03:24 <armabot> Vanhayes: What happened when you last talked?
03:25 <Vanhayes> #eliza you annoyed so much i stoped
03:25 <armabot> Vanhayes: Are you annoyed often?
03:26 <Vanhayes> #eliza whenever we talk I usually get annoyed yes
03:26 <armabot> Vanhayes: Are you annoyed often?
03:26 <Vanhayes> #eliza yes, things like this annoy me often
03:26 <armabot> Vanhayes: Often what?
03:26 <Vanhayes> #eliza often annoyed damnit
03:26 <armabot> Vanhayes: Are you annoyed often?
03:26 <Vanhayes> #eliza im starting to be
03:27 <armabot> Vanhayes: Why do you say you are starting to be?
03:27 <Vanhayes> #eliza ANNOYED
03:27 <armabot> Vanhayes: Can you elaborate on that?
03:27 <Vanhayes> #Eliza You annoy me
03:27 <armabot> Vanhayes: Why do you say me annoy you?
03:27 <Vanhayes> #eliza you ask the same question too many times
03:27 <armabot> Vanhayes: Why do you say i ask the same question too many times?
03:27 <Vanhayes> \#eliza because you do
03:28 <Vanhayes> #eliza because you do
03:28 <armabot> Vanhayes: Does it bother you that i ask you that?
03:28 <Vanhayes> #eliza It bothers me when you ask that repeatedly
03:28 <armabot> Vanhayes: What happened when i ask that repeatedly?
03:28 <Vanhayes> #eliza I got annoyed
03:28 <armabot> Vanhayes: Are you annoyed often?
03:28 <Vanhayes> #eliza yes, so very often
03:28 <armabot> Vanhayes: Why do you say yes so very often?
03:29 <Vanhayes> #eliza because I was answering your question
03:29 <armabot> Vanhayes: Is it because you were answering my question that you came to me?
03:29 <Vanhayes> #eliza I don't even know why I come to you
03:29 <armabot> Vanhayes: Is it because you come to me that you came to me?
03:29 <Vanhayes> #eliza that must be it, yes
03:29 <armabot> Vanhayes: Is it because must be it yes that you came to me?
03:29 <Vanhayes> #eliza sure
03:29 <armabot> Vanhayes: Can you elaborate on that?
03:30 <Vanhayes> #eliza I can
03:30 <armabot> Vanhayes: Why do you say you can?
03:30 <Vanhayes> #eliza Because I can
03:30 <armabot> Vanhayes: Does it bother you that i ask you that?
03:30 <Vanhayes> #eliza Ask me what?
03:30 <armabot> Vanhayes: What do you think?
03:30 <Vanhayes> #eliza I dont know, you were the one asking me
03:30 <armabot> Vanhayes: Why do you say that?
03:30 <Vanhayes> #eliza because its true
03:30 <armabot> Vanhayes: Does it bother you that i ask you that?
03:31 <Vanhayes> #eliza Eliza you are a whore
03:31 <armabot> Vanhayes: Please, watch your tongue!
03:31 <Vanhayes> well that was fun, I think she has gotten smarter since I last talked to her
03:32 <Vanhayes> #eliza good bye
03:32 <armabot> Vanhayes: My secretary will send you a bill.
03:32 <Vanhayes> #monologue
03:32 <armabot> Vanhayes: Your current monologue is at least 33 lines long.
03:33 <Vanhayes> awesome
03:34 <digitx> #monologue
03:34 <armabot> digitx: Your current monologue is at least 1 line long.
03:41 -!- P4 is now known as P4|away
03:57 <Durka>
03:57 <Durka>
03:57 <Durka>
03:57 <Durka>
03:57 <Durka>
03:57 <Durka>
03:57 <Durka>
03:57 <Stewie-arma> damn it durka not you
03:58 <Durka> XD
03:58 <Vanhayes> #wliza say hello to durka
03:58 <Vanhayes> #eliza say hello to durka
03:58 <armabot> Vanhayes: How do you do? What brings you to see me?
03:58 <Stewie-arma> rofl wliza
03:58 <Stewie-arma> #eliza no to durka
03:58 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Why do you say no to durka?
03:59 <Stewie-arma> lol
03:59 <Vanhayes> Stewie-arma: try to have a full conversation with her, its hard
03:59 <Stewie-arma> I bet
03:59 <Stewie-arma> they had an AIM bot like this
03:59 <Stewie-arma> a couple actually
03:59 <Vanhayes> that last one was probably the best ive had, I usually get fed up and start swearing
04:00 <Stewie-arma> each with different personalities
04:00 <Vanhayes> it could be the same one
04:00 <Stewie-arma> #eliza hello
04:00 <armabot> Stewie-arma: How do you do? What brings you to see me?
04:00 <Stewie-arma> #eliza Vanhayes told me to
04:00 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Why do you say vanhayes told you to?
04:00 <Stewie-arma> #eliza because he did...
04:00 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Does it bother you that i ask you that?
04:00 <Stewie-arma> #eliza not really
04:00 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Why do you say not really?
04:01 <Stewie-arma> #eliza because you asked me if it bothered me that you asked me a question
04:01 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Is it because i asked you if it bothered you that that you came to me?
04:01 <Stewie-arma> #eliza no
04:01 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Why not?
04:01 <Stewie-arma> #eliza because that isn't the reason
04:01 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Is it because isn 't the reason that you came to me?
04:01 <Stewie-arma> #eliza no
04:01 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Why not?
04:02 <Stewie-arma> #because it doesn't have anything to do with why I came to you.
04:02 <Stewie-arma> #eliza because it doesn't have anything to do with why I came to you.
04:02 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Does it bother you that i ask you that?
04:02 <Stewie-arma> #eliza no
04:02 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Why not?
04:02 <Stewie-arma> #eliza because it doesn't
04:02 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Is it because it doesn 't that you came to me?
04:02 <Stewie-arma> #eliza yes
04:02 <armabot> Stewie-arma: I see... Well, why do you say this is so?
04:03 <Stewie-arma> #eliza yes
04:03 <armabot> Stewie-arma: I see... Well, why do you say this is so?
04:03 <Stewie-arma> #eliza your stupid aren't you?
04:03 <armabot> Stewie-arma: What do you think?
04:03 <Stewie-arma> #eliza yes I do.
04:03 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Why do you say yes you do?
04:03 <Stewie-arma> #eliza because I think you're stupid
04:03 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Is it because you think me 're stupid that you came to me?
04:03 <Stewie-arma> #eliza yes it is
04:03 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Why do you say yes it is?
04:04 <Stewie-arma> #eliza because you have no mind
04:04 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Is it because i have no mind that you came to me?
04:04 <Stewie-arma> #eliza no I already told you why I came to you
04:04 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Is it because you came to that you came to me?
04:04 <Stewie-arma> #eliza no
04:04 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Why not?
04:04 <Stewie-arma> #eliza because your a whore
04:04 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Is it because my a whore that you came to me?
04:04 <Stewie-arma> #eliza yes it is
04:05 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Why do you say yes it is?
04:05 <Stewie-arma> #eliza because you are a whore
04:05 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Please, watch your tongue!
04:05 <Stewie-arma> #eliza STFU WHORE!
04:05 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Please, watch your tongue!
04:05 <Stewie-arma> #eliza no.
04:05 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Why not?
04:05 <Stewie-arma> #eliza because I don't listen to whores
04:05 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Is it because you don 't listen to whores that you came to me?
04:05 <Stewie-arma> #eliza yes
04:05 <armabot> Stewie-arma: I see... Well, why do you say this is so?
04:06 <Stewie-arma> #eliza because you get paid to have sex with people
04:06 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Are you afraid of sex?
04:06 <Stewie-arma> #eliza no
04:06 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Why not?
04:06 <Stewie-arma> #eliza because sex is a good thing
04:06 <Stewie-arma> #eliza because sex is a good thing
04:06 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Are you afraid of sex?
04:06 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Are you afraid of sex?
04:06 <Stewie-arma> #eliza no
04:06 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Why not?
04:06 <Stewie-arma> #eliza because sex is a good thing
04:06 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Are you afraid of sex?
04:07 <Stewie-arma> #eliza no
04:07 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Why not?
04:07 <Stewie-arma> #eliza because sex is a good thing
04:07 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Are you afraid of sex?
04:07 <Stewie-arma> #eliza no
04:07 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Why not?
04:07 <Stewie-arma> #eliza because sex is a good thing
04:07 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Are you afraid of sex?
04:07 <Stewie-arma> #eliza no
04:07 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Why not?
04:07 <Stewie-arma> #eliza because sex is a good thing
04:07 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Are you afraid of sex?
04:07 <Stewie-arma> #eliza no
04:07 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Why not?
04:07 <Stewie-arma> #eliza because sex is a good thing
04:07 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Are you afraid of sex?
04:07 <Stewie-arma> #eliza no
04:07 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Why not?
04:07 <Stewie-arma> #eliza because sex is a good thing
04:07 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Are you afraid of sex?
04:07 <Stewie-arma> #eliza no
04:07 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Why not?
04:07 <Stewie-arma> #eliza because sex brings good experiences
04:07 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Are you afraid of sex?
04:07 <Stewie-arma> #eliza no
04:07 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Why not?
04:08 <Stewie-arma> #eliza stfu whore, I already told you a bunch of times
04:08 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Please, watch your tongue!
04:08 <Stewie-arma> #eliza NO you watch your mouth
04:08 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Why do you say no i watch my mouth?
04:08 <Stewie-arma> #eliza because you're a whore
04:08 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Please, watch your tongue!
04:08 <Stewie-arma> #eliza stfu bitch stop being so dumb
04:08 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Please, watch your tongue!
04:09 <Stewie-arma> #eliza no bitch you watch your tongue!
04:09 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Please, watch your tongue!
04:09 <Stewie-arma> #eliza sex
04:09 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Can you elaborate on that?
04:09 <Stewie-arma> #eliza you are having sex
04:09 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Are you afraid of sex?
04:09 <Stewie-arma> #eliza no
04:09 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Why not?
04:09 <Stewie-arma> #eliza because sex has many good qualities
04:09 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Are you afraid of sex?
04:09 <Stewie-arma> #eliza no
04:09 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Why not?
04:09 <Stewie-arma> #eliza because sex has many good qualities
04:09 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Are you afraid of sex?
04:10 <Stewie-arma> #eliza no
04:10 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Why not?
04:10 <Stewie-arma> #eliza because sex has many good qualities
04:10 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Are you afraid of sex?
04:10 <Stewie-arma> #eliza no
04:10 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Why not?
04:10 <Stewie-arma> #eliza because sex has many good qualities
04:10 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Are you afraid of sex?
04:10 <Stewie-arma> #eliza no
04:10 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Why not?
04:10 <Stewie-arma> #eliza because sex has many good qualities
04:10 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Are you afraid of sex?
04:10 <Stewie-arma> #eliza no
04:10 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Why not?
04:10 <Stewie-arma> #eliza because sex has many good qualities
04:10 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Are you afraid of sex?
04:10 <Stewie-arma> #eliza no
04:10 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Why not?
04:10 <Stewie-arma> #eliza god this gets annoying
04:10 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Why do you say god this gets annoying?
04:10 <Stewie-arma> #eliza because you are annoying
04:10 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Is it because i are annoying that you came to me?
04:10 <Stewie-arma> #eliza no it isn't
04:10 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Why do you say no it isn 't?
04:11 <Stewie-arma> #eliza because you asked me a question
04:11 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Is it because i asked you a question that you came to me?
04:11 <Stewie-arma> #eliza no
04:11 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Why not?
04:11 <Stewie-arma> #eliza fuck you, you are way to dumb to keep a conversation
04:11 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Are you afraid of sex?
04:11 <Stewie-arma> #eliza I said fuck you not sex you idiot
04:11 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Are you afraid of sex?
04:12 <Stewie-arma> #eliza NO I AM NOT AFRAID OF SEX!!!!
04:12 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Why do you say you are afraid of sex?
04:12 <Stewie-arma> #eliza I DIDN'T SAY I WAS AFRAID OF SEX YOU RETARD!
04:12 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Why do you say you are afraid of sex me?
04:13 <Stewie-arma> #eliza omg you are the dumbest person I have ever talked to
04:13 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Why do you say that?
04:13 <Stewie-arma> #eliza go die in a fire
04:13 <armabot> Stewie-arma: This is not a healthy way of thinking.
04:13 <Stewie-arma> #eliza your face isn't a healthy way of living.
04:13 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Why do you say that?
04:13 <Stewie-arma> #eliza because your fat and retarded
04:13 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Is it because my fat and retarded that you came to me?
04:13 <Stewie-arma> #eliza yes
04:13 <armabot> Stewie-arma: I see... Well, why do you say this is so?
04:14 <Stewie-arma> #eliza because you just are fat and retarded
04:14 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Is it because me just are fat and retarded that you came to me?
04:14 <Stewie-arma> #eliza see you don't even have good programming
04:14 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Why do you say see me don 't even have good programming?
04:14 <Stewie-arma> #eliza nor do you have proper grammar
04:15 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Why do you say nor do i have proper grammar?
04:15 <Stewie-arma> #eliza because you don't have proper grammar
04:15 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Is it because me don 't have proper grammar that you came to me?
04:15 <Stewie-arma> #eliza just die already your to dumb to live
04:15 <armabot> Stewie-arma: This is not a healthy way of thinking.
04:15 <Vanhayes> ha
04:15 <Stewie-arma> #eliza you're a fucking retard
04:15 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Are you afraid of sex?
04:15 <Stewie-arma> #eliza how the fuck did that come up?
04:15 <armabot> Stewie-arma: What do you think?
04:16 <Stewie-arma> #eliza you're the most retarded person I have ever met
04:16 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Why do you say that?
04:16 <Stewie-arma> #monologue
04:16 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Your current monologue is at least 4 lines long.
04:16 <Stewie-arma> what?
04:16 <Vanhayes> heh i ruined your monologue
04:16 <Stewie-arma> you prick
04:16 <Stewie-arma> you deserve to die in a fire
04:17 <Vanhayes> im guessing 60 some
04:17 <Stewie-arma> ha
04:17 <Vanhayes> in a fire? thats harsh
04:17 <Stewie-arma> I told armabot to die in a fire twice
04:17 * Lucifer_arma flames Vanhayes (hi there!)
04:17 <Vanhayes> hmm anyone ever hear of That One Guy
04:17 <Stewie-arma> in tron?
04:17 <Vanhayes> no, he is a musician
04:18 <Stewie-arma> oh
04:18 <Stewie-arma> nope
04:19 <Stewie-arma> why?
04:22 <Vanhayes> just wondering where he was from, Saw him last weekend and he blew me away
04:43 <wrtlprnft> tramshed: luke-jr: no, i it is NOT arial, it's bitstream vera sans, actually it's shipped with arma, just do FONT_FILE font.ttf
04:44 <wrtlprnft> tramshed: luke-jr: it used to be the default font before we “ported” the original
04:44 <Vanhayes> love that font, makes arma so much easier to read
04:46 <wrtlprnft> Stewie-arma: can't remember putting any warning about that anywhere
04:46 <wrtlprnft> :)
04:47 <wrtlprnft> #later tell epsy* I jot used to the current constellation, but noone stops you from uploading your own variation.
04:47 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
04:47 <wrtlprnft> anyways, i'm gonna be away from internet access again, probably at least for a few days
04:48 <digitx> hi wrtlprnft
04:48 <digitx> -.-
04:49 <wrtlprnft> what was that about making armabot ignore you?
04:49 <Durka> :O
04:49 <Durka> wrtlpwnd!!! :P
04:50 <wrtlprnft> :D
04:50 <wrtlprnft> won't be long, going to go to bed soon
04:51 <digitx> !help
04:51 <digitx> #help
04:51 <armabot> digitx: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
04:51 <digitx> -.-
04:51 <Vanhayes> has anyone in here tried xpango?
04:52 <wrtlprnft> don't they have vistaango already? :D
04:53 <Vanhayes> heh, took me a few seconds to get that one
04:54 <wrtlprnft> but no, i didn't
05:35 <Stewie-arma> Vanhayes, who let you not die in the fire?
05:37 <Stewie-arma> #eliza hello
05:37 <armabot> Stewie-arma: How do you do? What brings you to see me?
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06:12 <Lucifer_arma> why do they make black cds?
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> how the hell am I supposed to write on it with a sharpie?!?!?
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> http://informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=201400131
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07:09 <Lucifer_arma> We should be asking ourselves, not how to live in an America-dominated world, but how to prepare for a world that is not America-dominated.
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> But military intelligence bears the same relation to intelligence as military music bears to music.
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/dysonf07/dysonf07_index.html
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08:35 <MrBougo> hiho
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09:08 <MrBougo> hiho DrJoeTron
09:09 <DrJoeTron> hi
09:09 <Stewie-arma> heyo
09:10 <DrJoeTron> i totally destroyed my pc
09:10 <DrJoeTron> sorta
09:10 <DrJoeTron> enough to reformat it
09:10 <Stewie-arma> ha, I had to reformat my computer 3 times last month...
09:11 <DrJoeTron> sweet
09:11 <DrJoeTron> i did that last year
09:11 <DrJoeTron> i somehow disabled video to a point that i could never bring it back
09:11 <Stewie-arma> rofl
09:11 <DrJoeTron> :V
09:12 <Stewie-arma> I had to get a new harddrive to fix my problem...
09:12 <Stewie-arma> all of a sudden it would just disconnect
09:12 <Stewie-arma> then reformat at it would be back
09:12 <DrJoeTron> oh cool
09:12 <DrJoeTron> my dvd drive magically disapeared once
09:12 <DrJoeTron> it was sweet
09:13 <Stewie-arma> so I got a 100g 7400rpm for my 12 inch laptop ;P
09:13 <Stewie-arma> lol how did that happen?
09:13 <DrJoeTron> oh you know
09:13 <DrJoeTron> boot it up
09:13 <Stewie-arma> where did it go...
09:13 <Stewie-arma> lol
09:13 <DrJoeTron> "hey wheres my cd drive go"
09:13 <DrJoeTron> "nope, its still in the computer":
09:13 <DrJoeTron> hmmm
09:13 <DrJoeTron> Time to delete the registry
09:14 <Stewie-arma> what kind of computer?
09:14 <DrJoeTron> welp there goes like 14 programgs
09:14 <DrJoeTron> pc
09:14 <Stewie-arma> computer not OS
09:14 <DrJoeTron> pc is an OS?
09:14 <Stewie-arma> plus that isn't even an os
09:14 <Stewie-arma> lol
09:14 <Stewie-arma> what type, brand might help...
09:15 <DrJoeTron> it WAS an Asus board
09:15 <DrJoeTron> its not really a brand
09:15 <DrJoeTron> I built it
09:15 <Stewie-arma> home built?
09:15 <DrJoeTron> heah
09:15 <Stewie-arma> thought so
09:15 <Stewie-arma> I've never actually built one, just pretty much changed everything in one
09:15 <DrJoeTron> its pretty damn easy
09:15 <Stewie-arma> yeah I know
09:16 <DrJoeTron> if you've plugged sega genesis cartridges into a game slot
09:16 <DrJoeTron> you can do this
09:16 <Stewie-arma> I know how to, I just never have
09:16 <Stewie-arma> ^_^
09:16 <DrJoeTron> the only kinda tricky part is "please work please work please work please work please wor-GOD DAMN IT"
09:16 <Stewie-arma> lol
09:17 <DrJoeTron> and then you change something and then it works
09:17 <Stewie-arma> wow this is annoying me, I have a torrent with 4032 seeders, and I'm dling from 1...
09:17 <DrJoeTron> this video card i installed doesnt have working TV Out is the only bad thing to come out of this bnew build
09:17 <Stewie-arma> no tv out?
09:17 <DrJoeTron> and i dont feel like sending it back because its not that big of a deal
09:17 <DrJoeTron> no *working* tv out
09:18 <Stewie-arma> lol
09:18 <Stewie-arma> some wires missing?
09:18 <DrJoeTron> no i think the port is dead
09:18 <DrJoeTron> it wont recognize televisions
09:18 <DrJoeTron> it found one when i installed tvtool
09:18 <Stewie-arma> and I thought companies had people checking those, atleast checking if it works...
09:18 <DrJoeTron> it found one i dont actually have
09:19 <Stewie-arma> lol
09:19 <DrJoeTron> which is what it got switched to as primary display and disabled my monitor. which made me reformat.
09:19 <Stewie-arma> maybe you need a special driver...
09:19 <DrJoeTron> NOPE
09:20 <DrJoeTron> i called up Evga and they were like "uh get a new cable or go ship it 2 us, sry laffo"
09:20 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o guru3] by ChanServ
09:20 <Stewie-arma> lol
09:20 <DrJoeTron> and its certainly not the cable
09:20 -!- guru3 changed the topic of #armagetron to: Latest Version: 0.2.8.2.1 | http://www.armagetronad.net/ | http://electricpotential.net/ircstats/armagetron.html | Gentoo? layman -ka armagetron | http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=20070407 | AFL discussion is in #afl , most of the time anyhow | pastebin: http://pastebin.ca/ | Logs: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armalogs/
09:20 <DrJoeTron> i've tried 2 of them, they all magically work
09:20 <DrJoeTron> on another computer
09:21 <DrJoeTron> this is what I get for switching to nvidia
09:21 -!- guru3 changed the topic of #armagetron to: Latest Version: 0.2.8.2.1 | http://www.armagetronad.net/ | http://electricpotential.net/ircstats/armagetron.html | Gentoo? layman -ka armagetron | AFL discussion is in #afl , most of the time anyhow | pastebin: http://pastebin.ca/ | Logs: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armalogs/
09:22 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o guru3] by guru3
09:22 <Stewie-arma> aww why'd you take out the funny...
09:22 <DrJoeTron> NO COMEDY IN THIS CHANNEL READ THE RULES
09:22 <Stewie-arma> oh sorry forgot about that rule...
09:22 <Stewie-arma> btw I thought nvidia was one of the reliable ones...
09:23 <DrJoeTron> I was told that
09:23 <DrJoeTron> but older ATi cards are really great
09:23 <Stewie-arma> apple seems to trust them
09:23 <DrJoeTron> i was on a 9600pro for a while
09:23 <Stewie-arma> you serious?
09:24 <DrJoeTron> only maintainence it needed was the fan needed to be oiled
09:24 <DrJoeTron> and before that I was ona 9200SE pci
09:24 <Stewie-arma> I got their crappy Go5200 (default for this computer)
09:25 <Stewie-arma> 32mb lol
09:27 <Stewie-arma> time to watch some shows...
09:27 <Stewie-arma> Rurouni Kenshin again
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10:00 <DrJoeTron> ANIMUSSS ^_^
10:02 <Stewie-arma> only 20 more episodes and I''m done with the series
10:04 <DrJoeTron> SORRY YOU'RE THAT FAR "v
10:04 <DrJoeTron> caps*
10:04 <MrBougo> lol
10:04 <MrBougo> "v?
10:04 <DrJoeTron> :V
10:04 <MrBougo> oh ok
10:04 <DrJoeTron> SHUT UP BOUGO
10:04 <MrBougo> OK DJT
10:04 <MrBougo> DJ TRON LOL
10:05 <DrJoeTron> tia
10:05 <MrBougo> YOURWELCOM
10:05 <Stewie-arma> TRY ADDING SOME SPACES!
10:05 <MrBougo> LIKE THAT ? ?
10:05 <Stewie-arma> ONE SPACE PER AFTER A WORD!
10:06 <DrJoeTron> FUCK
10:06 <DrJoeTron> THAT
10:06 <DrJoeTron> USE
10:06 <DrJoeTron> THE
10:06 <DrJoeTron> ENTER
10:06 * Stewie-arma says, "Dumbass" under his breath
10:06 <DrJoeTron> BITTON
10:06 <DrJoeTron> TO
10:06 <DrJoeTron> SPACE
10:06 <Stewie-arma> BITTON?
10:06 <MrBougo> yup
10:06 <Stewie-arma> SPELL
10:06 <Stewie-arma> IT
10:06 <Stewie-arma> RIGHT
10:06 <MrBougo> that's a ton of bitsq
10:06 <Stewie-arma> DUMBO
10:06 <MrBougo> bits*
10:07 <MrBougo> but what kind of bits
10:07 <MrBougo> floppy bittons?
10:07 * DrJoeTron says "WHAT A COOL GUY FOR EXPRESSIONS HIS EMOTIONS THROUGH AN IRC CHAT STRING" loudly
10:07 <MrBougo> cd bittons?
10:07 <MrBougo> dvd bittons?
10:07 <Stewie-arma> JOE
10:07 <DrJoeTron> buddens
10:07 <Stewie-arma> WHAT
10:07 <Stewie-arma> HAPPENED
10:07 <Stewie-arma> TO
10:07 <Stewie-arma> YOUR
10:07 <Stewie-arma> SPACES
10:07 <DrJoeTron> STOP SPAMMING FUCK
10:08 <Stewie-arma> CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL!
10:08 <DrJoeTron> KUTTING EDGE OF K-K-KOMEDY
10:08 <Stewie-arma> C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!
10:08 <MrBougo> ?
10:08 <Stewie-arma> >:3
10:09 <MrBougo> >:DD
10:10 <DrJoeTron> losers
10:10 <DrJoeTron> who the hell are you Stewie-arma
10:11 <MrBougo> he's stewie
10:12 <MrBougo> there are bittons of stewies on the internet
10:12 <Stewie-arma> I AM ANONYMOUS
10:12 <DrJoeTron> hurrr
10:12 <DrJoeTron> do you host something or wut
10:13 <Stewie-arma> NO I'M JUST A PLAYER
10:13 <MrBougo> HE HOSTS HIS ANONYMITY
10:13 <MrBougo> DOES THAT WORD EXIST
10:13 <Stewie-arma> YEAH
10:13 <MrBougo> ?????????????????????????
10:13 <MrBougo> OKAY THANK YOU
10:13 <Stewie-arma> BUT YOU MIGHT HAVE SPELT IT WRONG
10:13 <MrBougo> AW
10:14 <MrBougo> I HAVENT
10:14 <Stewie-arma> ALRIGHT
10:14 <MrBougo> JUST CHECKED WIKIPEDIA
10:14 <Stewie-arma> WIKI THAT SHI-
10:14 <MrBougo> YOU FORGOT THE VERTICAL | ON YOUR T
10:14 <MrBougo> _
10:14 <MrBougo> |
10:14 <Stewie-arma> NO I DIDN'T SUCKA
10:15 <Stewie-arma> YOU JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT A T LOOKS LIKE
10:15 <DrJoeTron> hax
10:16 <Stewie-arma> -HIS -RUE
10:16 <Stewie-arma> WOOPS
10:16 <Stewie-arma> -IS -RUE**
10:16 <Stewie-arma> I DO HAVE SOME HAX
10:16 <Stewie-arma> DON'- YOU?
10:17 <DrJoeTron> :/
10:17 <Stewie-arma> WHA- IS SOME-HING WRONG WI-H MY SEN-ENCES?
10:17 <MrBougo> S-FU
10:18 <Stewie-arma> NEVAR!
10:18 <MrBougo> OKAY
10:18 <MrBougo> SO...
10:18 <MrBougo> SUP?
10:18 <Stewie-arma> NO-HING MUCH.
10:18 <Stewie-arma> HOW ABOU- YOU?
10:18 <MrBougo> OH.
10:18 <MrBougo> EI-HER
10:19 <MrBougo> OOPS, FORGO- -HE DO-
10:19 <Stewie-arma> YOU MIGH- WAN- -O ADD A ME INFRON- OF -HA- FIRS- ONE.
10:20 <Stewie-arma> MAN MY BI--OREN- CLIEN- IS BEING REALLY ANNOYING.
10:21 <Stewie-arma> I- HAD -O RELOAD ALL OF MY -ORREN-S CAUSE I- UPGRADED
10:21 <MrBougo> SWEE-
10:22 <Stewie-arma> AND I- IS USING UP ALL OF MY CPU POWER, WHICH SLOWS -HE AUDIO ON MY SHOWS, SO I AM WAI-ING.
10:22 <MrBougo> SOME-HINGS WRONG WI-H YOU
10:22 <MrBougo> AND YOUR NICK
10:22 <MrBougo> SHOULDNT IT BE S-EWIE-ARMA
10:22 <Stewie-arma> (I-'S DOING I- ONE BY ONE WHICH IS WHY I- IS -AKING SO LONG)
10:23 <Stewie-arma> NO -HA- IS A LOWER CASE -
10:23 <Stewie-arma> GOSH
10:23 <Stewie-arma> tttt
10:23 <Stewie-arma> ----
10:23 <DrJoeTron> get a new computer heah
10:23 <MrBougo> stewietarma
10:24 <Stewie-arma> NO I- IS Stewie-arma (that second one is an uppercase t)
10:24 <MrBougo> i think he's typing everything in microsoft word 200000004 and using the replace thingy
10:24 <DrJoeTron> shut up tarma
10:24 <Stewie-arma> GOSH
10:24 <MrBougo> haha joe
10:24 <Stewie-arma> NO I'M NO-
10:25 <Stewie-arma> I'M JUS- GOOD A- REPLACING LE--ERS WI-H O-HER LE--ERS
10:25 <MrBougo> sure
10:25 <MrBougo> w
10:25 <Stewie-arma> WHA- YOU -HINK I WAS BORN -HIS WAY?
10:25 <Stewie-arma> I'M AC-UALLY SURPRISED I HAVEN'- MESSED UP YE-
10:26 -!- Stewie-arma is now known as Stewie_arma
10:26 <DrJoeTron> your - fell
10:26 <MrBougo> haha
10:26 <MrBougo> rofl!
10:27 <Stewie_arma> no
10:27 <DrJoeTron> fix it
10:27 <DrJoeTron> tia
10:27 <Stewie_arma> it's cause that second one wasn't actually supposed to be a t
10:27 -!- MrBougo is now known as WLooon6o
10:27 <WLooon6o> MY LETTERS
10:28 -!- Stewie_arma is now known as S-EWIE_ARMA
10:28 -!- WLooon6o is now known as Mr
10:28 <S-EWIE_ARMA> BE--ER?
10:28 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50873BB7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron
10:28 <S-EWIE_ARMA> HEY Z-MAN
10:28 <Mr> hello z-man
10:28 <S-EWIE_ARMA> SORRY
10:28 <S-EWIE_ARMA> HEY z-man
10:28 -!- Mr is now known as abcdefghijklmnop
10:28 <abcdefghijklmnop> already owned
10:28 <S-EWIE_ARMA> WHA-?
10:28 <abcdefghijklmnop> lets try the fibonacci sequence
10:28 <S-EWIE_ARMA> LULZ
10:29 <abcdefghijklmnop> aw
10:29 -!- abcdefghijklmnop is now known as _011235813213455
10:29 <_011235813213455> cant put only numeric chars
10:30 <S-EWIE_ARMA> -HA- S-INKS...
10:30 -!- _011235813213455 is now known as |0112358132134|
10:30 <|0112358132134|> bah
10:30 -!- |0112358132134| is now known as MrBougo
10:30 <S-EWIE_ARMA> -HA- WILL WORK BE--ER
10:31 <DrJoeTron> S-EWIE_ARMA i take frequents 4chan alot
10:31 <S-EWIE_ARMA> SHOULDN'- -AKE MUCH LONGER FOR ME -O GO BACK -O MY SHOWS
10:32 <S-EWIE_ARMA> RULE #1 JOE
10:32 <DrJoeTron> i'm not talking about /b/
10:32 <S-EWIE_ARMA> WHA-EVER
10:32 <S-EWIE_ARMA> DO I JUS- GIVE OU- -HA- VIBE?
10:32 <DrJoeTron> hah
10:33 <DrJoeTron> I have a couple friends who frequent 4chan and 420chan
10:33 <S-EWIE_ARMA> B-W WHA- WAS YOUR FIRS- CLUE?
10:33 <DrJoeTron> half of your mems
10:33 <DrJoeTron> memes*
10:33 <S-EWIE_ARMA> ONRY HALF?
10:33 <MrBougo> ONRY
10:33 <DrJoeTron> : /
10:33 <MrBougo> YA,NRY
10:34 <DrJoeTron> is this place still being logged to google?
10:34 <S-EWIE_ARMA> NO I- WAS ONRY AS IN ONLY (REPLACE -HE L WI-H R SO I- SOUNDS LIKE AN ASIAN IS SAYING I-)
10:35 <DrJoeTron> ahh...looks like it is
10:35 <MrBougo> DrJoeTron: nope
10:35 <MrBougo> oh?
10:35 <DrJoeTron> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Stewie-Arma&btnG=Google+Search
10:35 <DrJoeTron> jul 13th is pretty recient
10:35 <DrJoeTron> unless, when did i bitch about it
10:36 <S-EWIE_ARMA> NEVAR
10:38 <DrJoeTron> oh god,
10:38 <DrJoeTron> theres a lulzcon
10:38 <S-EWIE_ARMA> YOU DIDN'- KNOW ABOU- I-?
10:39 <DrJoeTron> doesnt look like its going to happen
10:39 <DrJoeTron> since there is no one really running it
10:39 <S-EWIE_ARMA> man, for going 7400RPM my harddrive doesn't seem to be searching itself very fast...
10:40 <DrJoeTron> waitaminute
10:40 <DrJoeTron> stairs?
10:40 <MrBougo> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/arma/screenshot_639.png haha wrtlprnft experimenting with stereography
10:40 <MrBougo> i did it before you, wrtl :)
10:40 <MrBougo> and it messed up
10:40 <S-EWIE_ARMA> 100mb/6s
10:41 <MrBougo> i think my fps was droppy
10:41 <MrBougo> these 3d glasses made my eyes sore :p
10:41 <DrJoeTron> yeah i was about to ask if you wear 3d glasses for this damn game
10:42 <DrJoeTron> ITS LIKE IM REALLY THERE GUYZ
10:42 <MrBougo> and these glasses are blue-red ones
10:42 <MrBougo> polarized glasses are WAY better
10:42 <S-EWIE_ARMA> yeah they are
10:42 <MrBougo> but you need some special screen
10:42 <MrBougo> too bad :(
10:42 <S-EWIE_ARMA> glossy maybe?
10:42 <MrBougo> huh?
10:43 <S-EWIE_ARMA> LURK MOAR!
10:43 <MrBougo> nah, with polarized glasses, you really feel the 3d
10:43 <MrBougo> with the colord
10:43 <MrBougo> s*
10:43 <DrJoeTron> your memes are killing me
10:43 <S-EWIE_ARMA> Joe you are the cancer that is killing the internet
10:43 <MrBougo> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/arma/screenshot_624.png the hell?
10:44 <S-EWIE_ARMA> has anyone bothered to check the other 623 screenshots?
10:45 <S-EWIE_ARMA> rofl it's his new explosions
10:46 <DrJoeTron> #m wrtlprnft did you attempt to stop google from viewing the armachatlogs? If you did it looks like google found them again.
10:46 <armabot> DrJoeTron: The operation succeeded.
10:52 <S-EWIE_ARMA> rofl: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/arma/screenshot_59.png
10:52 <MrBougo> rofl!
10:52 <MrBougo> awesome
10:54 <S-EWIE_ARMA> 4th of july: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/arma/screenshot_143.png
10:54 <MrBougo> omg rofl
10:54 <MrBougo> that wrtl guy lmikes experiments :p
10:55 <S-EWIE_ARMA> wtf are the red lines? http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/arma/screenshot_186.png
10:55 <MrBougo> map
10:55 <MrBougo> oh
10:55 <MrBougo> dunno
10:55 <MrBougo> some debug stuff
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10:56 <S-EWIE_ARMA> although I dig his cool forts: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/arma/screenshot_602.png
10:58 <MrBougo> he's trying polygonal forts
10:58 <S-EWIE_ARMA> is that fort 2.0?
10:58 <MrBougo> yup
11:01 <DrJoeTron> heh that would be pretty great
11:02 <DrJoeTron> we need more random vector shapes in arma
11:02 <S-EWIE_ARMA> well my files are fully loaded, I'm off to watch more rurouni kenshin
11:02 <MrBougo> cya
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12:00 <beta_usa> hey
12:00 <beta_usa> I've set up a server with pitsty patch, it's running. Now, does anyone know where I can find a ctf map ?
12:01 <beta_usa> There is two maps in Your_mom directory, but they are... weird.
12:05 <MrBougo> bye
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12:30 <spidey> #last --with spidey -nolimit
12:30 <armabot> spidey: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; (1 more message)
12:30 <spidey> #last --with spidey --nolimit
12:31 <armabot> spidey: [12:35:21] <spidey> #last --with spidey -nolimit, [03:12:30] <GodTodd> /home/spidey/xentrix/*.mp3, [03:11:10] <Lucifer_arma> you could just grab the parent directory, which is spidey, [03:10:23] <GodTodd> scp: /home/spidey/*.mp3: No such file or directory, [03:03:30] <Lucifer_arma> scp godtodd@davefancella.com:/home/spidey/*.mp3 ./, [03:03:01] <Lucifer_arma> spidey sent up the ghostbusters (9 more messages)
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12:57 <epsy> hi
13:04 <epsy> Lucifer_arma, why THAT topic ? :p
13:12 <spidey> why not?
13:13 * spidey accidently broke his picture id
13:13 <spidey> not sure how...
13:13 <epsy> heh
13:13 <spidey> had it in my hand,next thing i know..i hear it bust
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13:35 <wrtlprnft> DrJoeTron: yeah, it's in robots.txt, but it'll take a while and i still wonder if it's a good idea
13:36 <wrtlprnft> S-EWIE_ARMA: those are debug lines, z-man added them at some point of time. If they're enabled they somehow help him debug the game
13:36 <wrtlprnft> S-EWIE_ARMA: those fortress zone's aren't mine, they're philippeqc
13:51 <epsy> 15 fps software rendered ain't that bad
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14:05 * beta_usa can't find a good ctf map.
14:05 <beta_usa> :(
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14:16 <beta_usa> wrtlprnft: i usually blacklist google & co to be sure instead of realying only on robots.txt.
14:16 <beta_usa> My 2¢
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14:26 <wrtlprnft> well, i'm not too interested in blocking as it sort of destroys the purpose of the logs
14:27 <wrtlprnft> epsy: at what resolution? 40×30?
14:27 <spidey> 5x2
14:27 <spidey> :D
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14:50 <beta_usa> Does anyone know where I can find a ctf map ?
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15:14 <spidey> Lucifer_arma,
15:14 <spidey> Up to a felony charge can be levied for promoting the use of, or owning more than six dildos. <--- a texas law
15:17 <epsy> #armaservers
15:17 <armabot> epsy: This data is 42 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (10/14), ¬{Durka Durka Land|¬|ITWC|¬{Practice Server|¬ (8/16), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (7/12), Tigers Network Classic Play (7/16), Octopus's Garden v.1.1 (4/16), Wild West =Capture The Flag= (3/10), Fortress Café (3/32), Wild West =Capture The Flag= ~Multi~Mode~ (2/16), The Tavern (2/16), -=}ID< -=}Immortal (1 more message)
15:17 <epsy> #more
15:17 <armabot> epsy: Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (1/12), victory is mine! (1/16), |FA| Clan Server 1 Â Shooting Gallery! (1/16), Chico's Brake Boost Styball (1/8)
15:17 <epsy> #tea
15:17 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (3/32): H2H|Z|R, [RAM]:|/HeHe, |<-Yo
15:24 <digitx> #epsy
15:24 <digitx> #digitx
15:24 <armabot> digitx: ja me me ja ja vnc vnc op me op op op ja vnc vnc me op op ja ja op op me vnc me ja vnc op vnc vnc
15:24 <digitx> #hungary
15:24 <armabot> digitx, hungary is shit
15:24 <digitx> xDD
15:25 <digitx> epsy, op me?? vnc??
15:25 <digitx> :D
15:25 <spidey> ...
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16:38 <epsy> #armaservers
16:38 <armabot> epsy: This data is 24 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (13/14), Wild West =Capture The Flag= (10/10), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (8/12), SPACEZONE III TEAM PLAY (5/15), Ble33ed server (4/16), ¬| D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (4/16), Wild West =Fortress Shootout= (3/12), Wildcat (3/16), Tigers Network Classic Play (3/16), Noob Casino ®- Homeserver (2/16), The (1 more message)
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17:16 <Nixda428> Anyone home???
17:16 <epsy> hi
17:17 <Nixda428> Hi! Ich hab' mal eine dumme Frage und hoffe auf Antwort von den Profis ...
17:17 <epsy> wo ?
17:17 <epsy> i'm more or less at home
17:17 <Nixda428> Hier :-)
17:18 <epsy> #last --from Nixda428 --with ? --no-limit
17:18 <armabot> epsy: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; (1 more message)
17:18 <epsy> #last --from Nixda428 --with ? --nolimit
17:18 <armabot> epsy: [17:21:21] <Nixda428> Anyone home???
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17:18 <epsy> #last --from Nixda --with ? --nolimit
17:19 <armabot> epsy: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 48445 messages.
17:19 <epsy> Nixda428, what was your question ?
17:19 <Nixda428> Ich wollte wissen, ob es eine Möglichkeit gibt, Armagetron als reinen Server auf einer Maschine ohne Gui laufen zu lassen.
17:20 <Nixda428> You DO speak german, don't you?
17:20 <epsy> ja, du kannst den dedicated server runterladen, der lauft ohne GUI
17:20 <epsy> err a little :P
17:21 <Nixda428> Finde ich den hier auf der Seite?
17:21 <epsy> http://armagetronad.net/downloads.php
17:22 <Nixda428> Besten Dank! Bin etwas in Eile, aber mit Sicherheit nicht das letzte mal hiergewesen! Schönes Wochenende!
17:22 <epsy> have a nice w/e too =)
17:22 <Nixda428> CU
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19:09 <noob13> hi
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19:28 <mkzelda> <Nixda428> Hi! Ich hab' mal eine dumme Frage und hoffe auf Antwort von den Profis ... <-- I have a dumb question and what?
19:30 <mkzelda> my german has gotten really bad
19:30 <duudii> "...am hoping for an answer from the pros"
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19:30 <duudii> or something
19:31 <duudii> #t ger eng Hi! Ich hab' mal eine dumme Frage und hoffe auf Antwort von den Profis
19:31 <armabot> duudii: Rear one! I have ' times a stupid question and hope for answer of the professionals
19:31 <mkzelda> haha rear one
19:31 <duudii> :P etf
19:34 <mkzelda> Besten Dank! Bin etwas in Eile, aber mit Sicherheit nicht das letzte mal hiergewesen! Schönes Wochenende! <-- Best thanks! ??? but with ??? not later? Great weekend
19:34 <mkzelda> #t ger eng Bin etwas in Eile, aber mit Sicherheit nicht das letzte mal hiergewesen!
19:34 <armabot> mkzelda: Something in hurry, but with security the latter times were not!
19:34 <mkzelda> whats that mean?
19:35 <mkzelda> rear one!
19:35 <mkzelda> Its pier 1's new metrosexual store
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19:36 <mkzelda> #t ger eng Hi!
19:36 <armabot> mkzelda: Rear one!
19:40 <duudii> ??
19:40 <duudii> :P
19:41 <mkzelda> #t eng ger Rear one!
19:41 <armabot> mkzelda: Rückseite eine!
19:41 <mkzelda> well that was disappointing
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19:49 <luke-jr> mkzelda: know anything about SNMP?>
19:54 <mkzelda> like what?
19:54 <luke-jr> like how to bypass a noAccess
19:54 <mkzelda> nah
19:55 <luke-jr> :(
19:55 <mkzelda> what kind of equipment?
19:55 <mkzelda> time to lookup respective exploits
19:55 <luke-jr> Motorola Surfboard 4100 or zuch
19:55 <mkzelda> hehe
19:55 <luke-jr> my port 80 depends on it!
19:55 <mkzelda> TWC?
19:56 <luke-jr> Cox
19:56 <luke-jr> I have read-write on memory directly if that helps
19:56 <luke-jr> already wiped the SNMP access table
19:57 <mkzelda> u already familiar w/ www.surfboardhacker.net ?
19:57 <luke-jr> no
19:58 <luke-jr> blank page
19:58 <mkzelda> https://www.surfboardhacker.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=27&sid=4d651dad6adcf91ee38084a413fb0d56
19:58 <mkzelda> do /forum
19:58 <mkzelda> "blank page" cause you dont have flash
19:59 <luke-jr> cuz flash sux
19:59 <mkzelda> no arguments here
20:00 <mkzelda> i mean w/ you, i agree
20:00 <mkzelda> they have a store you can buy pre modded modems
20:00 <mkzelda> and an irc channel
20:00 <luke-jr> mine is premodded
20:00 <luke-jr> what irc
20:01 <mkzelda> rc.criten.net
20:01 <mkzelda> #surfboard_hacker
20:01 <mkzelda> irc.criten.net
20:02 <mkzelda> their old one is on efnet, might still have ppl there
20:04 <mkzelda> nope, they had drama and its +i now heh
20:05 <mkzelda> snmp_rape is the guy that runs it all
20:06 <digitx> luke-jr, bad
20:13 <tramshed> hah
20:13 <tramshed> criten is still around huh
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20:21 <mkzelda> lol yeah
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20:38 <MrBougo> hiho
20:39 <MrBougo> hoihoi
20:40 <mkzelda> luke-jr: it seems they might be at irc.surfboardhacker.net #surfboard_hacker too
20:40 <mkzelda> dunno where they call home now
20:42 <luke-jr> same server
20:46 <MrBougo> night
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21:16 <mkzelda> luke-jr: I wanna get into this, should i get a 4200 or a 5100 series?
21:17 <luke-jr> mkzelda: aren't you being watched?
21:17 <luke-jr> I imagine the 5100 would be better off by now
21:17 <luke-jr> I got mine before it was cracked
21:27 <mkzelda> nah im not watched and my account is in another name
21:27 <mkzelda> and im done on aug 20 anyhow
21:28 <mkzelda> if im being watched they're doing a poor job
21:36 <mkzelda> i really just want to host a decent private game server for local friends w/o saturating it after 3 or 4 players
21:36 <mkzelda> it does well w/ local friends tho, pings around 20
21:37 <mkzelda> bounces from 5-40 at times
21:58 <luke-jr> of course
21:59 <luke-jr> that doesn't even go out to the net
22:00 <Monkey_arma> subzero gets 19 ping on fort cafe
22:05 <tramshed> lowest ping ive had on a server so far was 40something
22:05 <tramshed> dont remember which one it was though, heh
22:10 <epsy> what does DCT mean ?
22:11 <epsy> lowest by me was 50...that was on localhost lol
22:11 <tramshed> hah
22:12 <luke-jr> ...
22:12 <epsy> lol luke-jr
22:12 <luke-jr> DCT = insanely flexible thing that will probably never happenj
22:13 <luke-jr> epsy: it would involve making Arma into a game engine more than a game, and moving game logic into config files
22:13 <tramshed> sounds like it means just making a new game
22:14 <luke-jr> nah, a new game language more like
22:14 <luke-jr> and porting the classic rules into it
22:14 <epsy> i see
22:14 <luke-jr> basically, the speed of a cycle would be defined by a config param
22:14 <luke-jr> which would be a formula
22:14 <epsy> more or less the complicated version of the « custom gameplay » engine
22:14 <luke-jr> never heard of 'custom gameplay'
22:15 <epsy> just some ideas that doesn't exists :P
22:18 <luke-jr> mkzelda: go on their IRC chnanel
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22:35 <mkzelda> i am there
22:36 * epsy does a whois on mkzelda
22:39 <epsy> wrtlprnft, again http://epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539/~epsy/screenshots/arma-team/screenshot_208.png
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23:09 <yodaofborg> Har har
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23:59 <tramshed> hmm
23:59 <tramshed> wonder why im the only person in here with an i in thier ident instead of an n
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00:07 <S-EWIE_ARMA> a what with a what?
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00:09 <luke-jr> tramshed: you're not identified?
00:09 <tramshed> I guess not
00:09 <luke-jr> well
00:09 <tramshed> beats me
00:09 <luke-jr> actually, I think it's lack of ident server on someone's part
00:10 <tramshed> * *** Looking up your hostname...
00:10 <tramshed> * *** Checking ident
00:10 <tramshed> * *** Couldn't look up your hostname
00:10 <tramshed> * *** Got ident response
00:10 <tramshed> im identerfied.
00:10 <luke-jr> [12:28:42] [Notice] -- *** No Ident response
00:10 <tramshed> might have something to do with the ipv6
00:10 <luke-jr> im not
00:10 <luke-jr> am I connected via IPv6 right now?
00:11 <tramshed> nay
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00:11 <tramshed> well
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00:11 <tramshed> unless your isp has ipv6 dns working
00:11 <tramshed> but I doubt it
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00:20 <luke-jr> I think it's a Konv bug
00:21 <tramshed> ?
00:21 <luke-jr> IPv6
00:21 <tramshed> what about it
00:22 <luke-jr> Konv doesn't like it
00:22 <tramshed> ah
00:22 <tramshed> you using an ipv6 server?
00:22 <tramshed> ipv6.chat.freenode.net
00:22 <luke-jr> if I try, Konv can't connect
00:22 <tramshed> ah, bummer
00:22 <tramshed> you got ipv6 installed?
00:22 <luke-jr> ...yes
00:22 <luke-jr> I can telnet
00:22 <tramshed> or compiled into your kernel
00:22 <tramshed> ah
00:22 <tramshed> bummer
00:22 <luke-jr> Konq tries to connect to some IPv4 addy
00:23 <tramshed> im usin xchat myself
00:24 <luke-jr> xchat is gtk
00:25 <tramshed> miss your theme?
00:25 <tramshed> or do you just entirely not have gtk installed
00:26 <tramshed> brb
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00:34 <luke-jr> tramshed: I don't like GTK
00:42 <tramshed> why not?
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01:10 <tramshed> hah
01:10 <tramshed> now you are on ipv6
01:10 <tramshed> but you still gots an n
01:10 <tramshed> wonder what the i means
01:10 <tramshed> idiot probably
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01:14 <luke-jr> tramshed: like I said, it's the ident response flag
01:14 <luke-jr> i means your ident confirmed you
01:14 <luke-jr> n means you have no ident server
01:14 <tramshed> oh
01:15 <tramshed> so you are all identless bastards
01:15 <tramshed> hah!
01:15 <tramshed> I figured what are the odds of me having the only ident
01:15 <tramshed> guess they were pretty good
01:16 <luke-jr> :p
01:16 <luke-jr> I never understood the point of ident
01:16 <tramshed> I dont either, heh
01:17 <tramshed> my client just does it for me though, so I dont see why not
01:17 <tramshed> a lot of servers dont like to let you on without ident
01:20 <luke-jr> never had that problem
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08:14 <Lucifer_arma> weeee
08:14 * Lucifer_arma just got back from Sea World
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> well, a couple of hours ago, anyway
08:15 <MrBougo> weee
08:15 <MrBougo> was it fun?
08:15 <luke-jr> ...
08:15 <MrBougo> lol luke wanted to come with you
08:15 <luke-jr> you wish
08:17 <Lucifer_arma> yeah :)
08:17 <Lucifer_arma> took my daughter on this: http://www.seaworld.com/SWT/ar_steel_eel.aspx
08:17 <Lucifer_arma> both my sons on this: http://www.seaworld.com/SWT/ar_journey_atlantis.aspx
08:18 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: get sunburned? ;)
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> nah, I don't burn
08:19 <MrBougo> oho
08:19 <Lucifer_arma> well, my legs saw sun for the first time in years, so I think I burned the back of my calves
08:19 <MrBougo> hehe
08:19 <luke-jr> my family can't be outside in the sun for even an hour without going to the ER for sunburn
08:19 <Lucifer_arma> we wore swimsuits for the Lost Lagoon
08:19 <GodTodd> luke-jr: all part of god's plan :)
08:20 * GodTodd wonders how you can go to a lagoon that's lost...
08:20 <luke-jr> GodTodd: yeah, we stay inside when the sun's overhead
08:20 <GodTodd> luke-jr: that's what happens when you're descended from cain
08:20 <luke-jr> GodTodd: since it was capitalized, it is likely a proper noun
08:20 <luke-jr> and not really lost
08:20 <luke-jr> GodTodd: nobody's descended from Cain
08:21 <GodTodd> luke-jr: it was a joke
08:21 <luke-jr> indeed
08:21 <GodTodd> luke-jr: you are :)
08:21 <Lucifer_arma> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel_Eel
08:21 <Lucifer_arma> slightly more information there
08:21 <Lucifer_arma> it's a pretty tame roller coaster, on the whole
08:21 <Lucifer_arma> I didn't manage to talk my daughter into going on the Great White
08:21 * GodTodd hates roller coasters
08:22 * luke-jr also
08:22 * Lucifer_arma loves roller coasters and is happy to have kids that also love them :)
08:22 <MrBougo> whats the great white?
08:22 <MrBougo> hehe
08:22 <MrBougo> i dont
08:22 <Lucifer_arma> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_White
08:22 <MrBougo> how old are your kids luci?
08:22 <luke-jr> GodTodd: we have a lot in common!
08:22 <Lucifer_arma> 8, 7, and 4
08:22 <GodTodd> luke-jr: thanks...now i need prozac
08:22 <Lucifer_arma> it looks like the steel eel actually goes faster than the great white, but it doesn't do any loops
08:22 <luke-jr> :)
08:22 <Lucifer_arma> nor corkscrews
08:23 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.rcdb.com/ig532.htm
08:23 * GodTodd organized his home directory a bit
08:23 <GodTodd> that was fun :)
08:24 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.rcdb.com/ig278.htm <--- the one I wanted to take my daughter on, but she didn't want to go
08:24 <Lucifer_arma> (not the same as wussing out, wussing out is "I'll go!" and then, well, wussing out)
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> well, if I don't manage to land a job in aerospace, maybe I can go design rollercoasters
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08:29 <MrBougo> haha
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08:33 <Lucifer_arma> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:V29.JPG <--- ack! that's fucked up!
08:35 <Lucifer_arma> oh, that's not too bad, in the small view it looks like it goes up and quickly goes over the top, but instead it looks like it just stops and then starts again, but backwards
08:35 <Lucifer_arma> so you do all the same stuff you just did, but backwards
08:35 <MrBougo> haha
08:35 <MrBougo> watcha think
08:58 * MrBougo is bored
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09:05 <MrBougo> hiho
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09:32 <Durka> #lastseen manta
09:32 <armabot> Durka: Manta seems to be on Wild West =Sumo= (Arizona) right now.
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09:34 <Durka> Manta: I said after you win the match :( I wanted you to win lol
09:34 <MrBougo> hiho Du
09:34 <MrBougo> rka
09:34 <MrBougo> Durka:
09:34 <Manta> oh ok, lol I wasn't watching the score
09:35 <MrBougo> hey Manta
09:35 <Manta> Hello MrBougo
09:35 <Durka> Yea, you had 540, 2nd place had 360 xD
09:35 <MrBougo> these nexuiz servers are emty
09:35 <Durka> hi bougy :P
09:35 <MrBougo> whats wrong
09:35 <MrBougo> Durky :)
09:36 <Durka> :P
09:36 <Manta> cuz I pwnd the server fist time I played nexuiz, then lost every match there after
09:36 <Durka> LOL! ^^
09:37 <MrBougo> hehe
09:37 <MrBougo> when did you first play?
09:38 <Manta> it was a while back
09:39 <Manta> have you tried Tremulous?
09:40 <Manta> it won't play over dialup at all, the admins keep kicking me :( :(
09:40 <Manta> but a great premises, but needs a lot of weapon balancing rather unfair balancing right now.
09:42 <Manta> you are a spider or a human.
09:42 <Manta> and the spiders are actual spider size and you run on the walls and ceilings and bit or shoot poison.
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09:54 <beta_usa> Does anyone know where I can find a ctf map ?
09:54 <beta_usa> a good one
09:55 <Durka> yea
09:55 <Durka> the normal one
09:55 <Durka> or a maze one?
09:59 <Durka> beta_usa: ... ?
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10:04 <beta_usa> ups
10:04 <beta_usa> :/
10:05 <beta_usa> That would have been the normal one.
10:16 <luke-jr> ...
10:16 <luke-jr> are crickets bad?
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10:24 <beta_usa> See you later, have fun
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10:27 <mkzelda> luke-jr what are you still doing up?
10:37 <mkzelda> luke-jr: http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/cripldbird/BeaArthur.jpg
11:26 <DrJoeTron> serverinfo
11:26 <DrJoeTron> #serverinfo shrunk
11:26 <armabot> DrJoeTron: Shrunkland in 2.8.2: No online players.
12:19 <MrBougo> bye
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12:42 <epsy> hi
12:46 <philippeqc2> ello
12:47 <epsy> hi philippeqc2 =)
12:49 <luke-jr> mkzelda: wtf?
12:51 <philippeqc2> epsy, you recall that "model" to allow easy scripting of AA's main loop? I found a problem with it.
12:52 <philippeqc2> It doesn't cover the case where players are to be allowed to join a round
12:52 <epsy> what are you talking about
12:52 <epsy> these ideas only stayed in my head
12:52 <luke-jr> lol
12:53 <epsy> blocking me to sleep
12:53 <philippeqc2> o poor lil you.. want me to sing you a lollaby?
12:53 <philippeqc2> ;)
12:53 <philippeqc2> didnt you try to implement at least a similar concept?
12:53 <epsy> what i think about is some bindings to most of the functions that composes a round into the scripting engine
12:54 * epsy slaps himself
12:54 <epsy> « try to implement » is a big word
12:55 <philippeqc2> the binding idea is good, but I think the whole loop could need a bit of reorganising
12:57 <philippeqc2> too much seems crammed in there
13:03 * philippeqc2 is performing a lot of work recently using my Jedi-coder senses. If something feels like the right thing, then no need to sit and analyse it and try to understand it. And strangely enough, it IS the best implementation, and DOES fix the problem without introducing new ones.
13:05 <philippeqc2> friday I was doing some agile/pair programming with my boss. 6 hours in a row of doing that Jedi thing and not being wrong kinda get to your head. And impress your boss.
13:08 <philippeqc2> luke-jr: have you continued to learn OO programing (or C++)
13:13 <epsy> heh
13:14 <epsy> well, that's true...if we want some kind of decent gameplay modding...we need cleanup :/
13:14 <philippeqc2> epsy: i dont know the amount of work it would take or which you are willing to put, but said changes would greatly benefit the project, and will probably be needed in the end to make what you desire possible.
13:15 * epsy dreams....the capture the admin mode hahahahah
13:16 <epsy> yea that's sure ...
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13:17 <philippeqc2> I'm not saying my proposed model is great, nor do I beleive so. just that I'm still waiting for a better proposal to come.
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13:24 * epsy runs away from MrBougo
13:24 <epsy> i'm gonna take a shower brb
13:24 * MrBougo follows epsy
13:24 <MrBougo> HEY NO
13:24 <MrBougo> ROFL
13:24 * epsy ...
13:24 <MrBougo> i meant follow you when you run away
13:24 <MrBougo> omg
13:25 * epsy throws MrBougo 50 meters away
13:25 <MrBougo> someone should quote that :(
13:25 <epsy> ask Lucifer_arma
13:25 <MrBougo> Lucifer_arma: quote me!
13:26 <epsy> #quote add <MrBougo> Lucifer_arma: quote me!
13:26 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded. Quote #55 added.
13:26 <epsy> ahaha
13:26 <MrBougo> aw
13:27 <MrBougo> gonna ad myself
13:27 <MrBougo> add
13:27 <MrBougo> cause i dont want to forget this
13:27 <epsy> lame
13:27 <MrBougo> #quote add * epsy runs away from MrBougo | <epsy> i'm gonna take a shower brb | * MrBougo follows epsy * | <MrBougo> HEY NO
13:27 <armabot> MrBougo: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
13:27 <MrBougo> crap lolz
13:28 <MrBougo> #quote add * epsy runs away from MrBougo | <epsy> i'm gonna take a shower brb | * MrBougo follows epsy * | <MrBougo> HEY NO
13:28 <armabot> MrBougo: The operation succeeded. Quote #56 added.
13:28 <epsy> with HEY NO i it's not a funny quote
13:31 <MrBougo> :(
13:31 <MrBougo> #list quote
13:31 <armabot> MrBougo: add, change, get, random, remove, search, and stats
13:31 <MrBougo> #help change
13:31 <armabot> MrBougo: Error: That command exists in the News, Praise, and Quote plugins. Please specify exactly which plugin command you want help with.
13:31 <MrBougo> #help quote change
13:31 <armabot> MrBougo: (quote change [<channel>] <id> <regexp>) -- Changes the quote with id <id> according to the regular expression <regexp>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
13:31 <MrBougo> weee, regexp
13:32 <MrBougo> i dont get it
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13:33 <MrBougo> #help quote add
13:33 <armabot> MrBougo: (quote add [<channel>] <text>) -- Adds <text> to the quote database for <channel>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
13:33 <MrBougo> #quote remove 56
13:33 <armabot> MrBougo: The operation succeeded.
13:34 <MrBougo> #quote add * epsy runs away from MrBougo | <epsy> i'm gonna take a shower brb | * MrBougo follows epsy *
13:34 <armabot> MrBougo: The operation succeeded. Quote #57 added.
13:39 <DrJoeTron> thats not quote worthy >:(
13:39 <MrBougo> :(
13:39 <MrBougo> what should i do then, Doc
13:39 <DrJoeTron> charish your conversation
13:40 <MrBougo> whats charich
13:40 <MrBougo> s*
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13:54 <MrBougo> bye
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14:00 <epsy> #armaservers
14:00 <armabot> epsy: This data is 80 seconds old; ¬| D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (10/16), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (6/14), Strawberry Fields (3/16), SPACEZONE III (3/15), G-Land (2/8), Chico's Brake Boost Styball (2/8), Wild West =Capture The Flag= (1/10), C Test (1/16), SPACEZONE [VERY HIGH SPEED!!] (1/8)
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15:02 <duudii> #onlineservers
15:02 <armabot> duudii: This data is 6 seconds old; ¬| D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (12/16), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (11/14), Fortress Café (8/32), The Tavern (7/16), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (6/12), Swampland II (4/8), Strawberry Fields (3/16), ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Arena {100MBit} (3/10), SPACEZONE III (3/15), Tigers Network Classic Play (1/16)
15:03 <duudii> #sd rewb
15:03 <armabot> duudii: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “rewb” at the moment, sorry.
15:03 <duudii> #sd rawb
15:03 <armabot> duudii: Strawberry Fields: Players (3/16): Jack, pimp floyd, Porry--*
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15:57 <epsy> wrtlprnft, why in your cockpit the impact gauge is the only gauge whose label is external ?
16:04 <epsy> nvm
16:07 <epsy> and...how come that the automap displays a whithe bg ... :/ and the thing on the players doesn't show up
16:08 <epsy> i didn't changed that part :/
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16:46 <epsy> i wish wrtlprnft was on café
16:47 <epsy> dd DAL is so a bad ass
16:47 <luke-jr> philippeqc2: I know OO programming and have for a while
17:06 <philippeqc2> luke-jr: neat! Wasn't sure if you kept at it.
17:07 <philippeqc2> 2 things for you:
17:08 <philippeqc2> a) the absolute best book on C++. And for the price you cant complain if my comment should reveal being false: http://www.icce.rug.nl/documents/cplusplus/
17:09 <philippeqc2> b) For all OO development, one should really learn about Design Patterns. Try and get yourself a copy of it. It is by Erich Gamma, Richard Helm Ralph Johnson and John Vlissides (often refered to as the Gang of Four) published by Addison-Wesley
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17:11 <philippeqc2> I have started reading through my copy, checking pattern out of order. The "Interpeter" should be of interest to you.
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17:16 <quarg> hello
17:16 <philippeqc2> hi
17:17 <quarg> is luke here?
17:17 <quarg> phil are you from queec?
17:17 <philippeqc2> not since the last 30 min
17:17 <quarg> quebec
17:17 <philippeqc2> quarg: yes
17:17 <quarg> aha
17:17 <quarg> me too
17:17 <quarg> laval
17:17 <philippeqc2> nea!
17:17 <philippeqc2> c'est pas vrai
17:18 <quarg> tres vrai!
17:18 <philippeqc2> Vimont?
17:18 <quarg> fabreville
17:18 <quarg> laval
17:18 <quarg> autoroute 15 nord
17:18 <philippeqc2> J'ai vecu a Duvernay et a Vimont
17:18 <quarg> nice
17:18 <quarg> tu nest plus la?
17:18 <philippeqc2> Stockholm en Suede maintenant
17:19 <quarg> i saw the pc in your name and i just clicked lol
17:19 <quarg> wow
17:19 <quarg> qc*
17:19 <philippeqc2> ouais!
17:19 <quarg> est tu la en permanence?
17:19 <philippeqc2> l'image sur le forum tu veux dire?
17:19 <philippeqc2> Ouais, j'ai emigre!
17:20 <quarg> non ton nom philippeQC2
17:20 <philippeqc2> clicked where?
17:20 <quarg> je nai pas vue de photo
17:20 <quarg> que forum?
17:20 <philippeqc2> oooo ok, cliquer en quebecois
17:21 <philippeqc2> pas cliquer avec une sourie
17:21 <quarg> oui
17:21 <quarg> heh
17:21 <philippeqc2> le forum d'armagetron advance, le jeu
17:21 <quarg> est tu un dev?
17:21 <philippeqc2> http.//forums.armagetronad.net
17:21 <philippeqc2> oui, j'en suis un
17:21 <quarg> ou just ici pour la bonne companie
17:21 <philippeqc2> ca aussi
17:22 <tramshed> Blame Canada!
17:22 <quarg> ill switch to english much faster for me to type :)
17:22 * tramshed ducks
17:23 <quarg> i was wondering if it was possible to create a tron glossary for in game trems used by palyers
17:23 <tramshed> sure
17:23 <philippeqc2> duck hunting season! Pang! Pang! the poor bird drops from the sky as I send my dog to pick the body
17:23 <tramshed> make a wiki
17:23 <quarg> with pics of traps and such
17:23 <quarg> well im not sure if it is ok for anyyone to edit the wiki
17:23 <philippeqc2> the wiki would be the best place for that. The terms seems to evolve quite rapidly, and the glossary would need to expand
17:24 <quarg> or is it just the devs that can
17:24 <philippeqc2> anyone
17:24 <quarg> nice
17:24 <quarg> well i was thinking of putting one together
17:24 <tramshed> do it, people will appreciate im sure
17:24 <quarg> since every one seems to have a variation on the terms used
17:25 <quarg> try and make it clear for ppl
17:25 <philippeqc2> from http://www.armagetronad.net you will find both our wiki and forum
17:25 <quarg> though it would not be just my def but a combo of everyones
17:25 <philippeqc2> and you will find some attemps spread over the forums.
17:25 <quarg> i go there almost every day for info on servers and such
17:25 <philippeqc2> or at least discussions of term
17:26 <quarg> at the moment i am hosting 8 servers
17:26 <quarg> and helping others to do the same
17:26 <philippeqc2> o my!
17:26 <quarg> support the game in every way i can
17:26 <philippeqc2> all on the same 'puter
17:26 <quarg> even if its not in programing
17:26 <quarg> yes
17:27 <quarg> well 7 are
17:27 <quarg> 1 isnt
17:27 <philippeqc2> have you tried by giving me $? Nobody ever tries that one.
17:27 <philippeqc2> ;)
17:27 <quarg> i would love to support the dev of tron
17:27 <quarg> bu i dont see anyplace to
17:27 <philippeqc2> there is a paypal donation button.
17:27 <quarg> a paypall would be an idea;)
17:28 <quarg> ????
17:28 <quarg> plz point me there
17:28 <philippeqc2> buttom of the page on the forum
17:29 <philippeqc2> well, at least of the "view post since last visit" page
17:29 <quarg> wow i just passed over that like it was a forum add
17:29 <quarg> never even saw it
17:29 <quarg> might want to make it more obvious
17:30 <quarg> what exactly does it support?
17:30 <quarg> master servers?
17:30 <quarg> or other?
17:30 <philippeqc2> the project hosting IIRC.
17:30 <philippeqc2> You would better ask tank/guru3 for the exact details
17:30 <quarg> not sure what that is
17:30 <quarg> a ok
17:31 <quarg> how many devs on the project?
17:31 <philippeqc2> forum hosting, the fees for the name, such things
17:31 <quarg> what is it you contribute to it?
17:31 <philippeqc2> my contrib is on the map parser.
17:31 <quarg> so you know mapingthen?
17:32 <philippeqc2> a bit.
17:32 <quarg> i started dabling in map making
17:32 <philippeqc2> neat!
17:32 <quarg> http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/QUARG/rubber/
17:33 <quarg> found an odd detail in the sumo map for the zones that zman made
17:33 <tramshed> I havnt played with the maps yet
17:33 <tramshed> I like classic ole tron
17:33 <quarg> there seems to be a tab between some of the charaters. when removed the map doesnt seem to work right
17:33 <tramshed> although ctf is kinda fun
17:34 <quarg> im a rubber player myself
17:34 <quarg> got yelled at the first time i palyed fort and never went back
17:34 <tramshed> not me
17:34 <tramshed> rubber is ridiculous
17:34 <quarg> :)
17:34 <quarg> ridiculouly fun
17:34 <guru3> classic play, all the way
17:34 <philippeqc2> tramshed: i dont want to remove the old style of play, just allow new ones. So its all ok!
17:35 <tramshed> oh I know
17:35 <quarg> df is my fun
17:35 <tramshed> Im glad new stuffis added
17:35 <quarg> classic df
17:35 <tramshed> just wish people would not use >6 rubber
17:35 <tramshed> df is stupid
17:35 <tramshed> 12 rubber and dont grind
17:35 <tramshed> thats retarded
17:35 <tramshed> and dont corner
17:35 <tramshed> and dont kill people
17:35 <quarg> i use 2 rubber on my gemini df server
17:36 <tramshed> I got bitched at cuz I went into a df server and mopped up
17:36 <quarg> i find i right on
17:36 <tramshed> 2 is cool
17:36 <tramshed> I could get down with 2
17:36 <tramshed> I like it to go boom when you hit a wall
17:36 <tramshed> not to hit pause
17:36 <quarg> yes classic tron is fun also
17:37 <quarg> not many servers with that setting
17:37 <quarg> mm might try one
17:37 <quarg> gemini claaic
17:37 <quarg> classic*
17:37 <quarg> square map? or custom?
17:38 <quarg> slow speed or moderate?
17:38 <tramshed> once I get a server im bringin my server back
17:38 <quarg> which?
17:39 <quarg> whats the name of your server?
17:39 <tramshed> world of hate
17:39 <tramshed> been a couple years since it was up
17:39 <quarg> we might want to hook up
17:39 <quarg> i could host it for a bit till then
17:40 <quarg> might be intresting to have a classic server out ther
17:40 <tramshed> lemme see if I cant find its settings
17:40 <quarg> though i cant have too manny ppl on it at once
17:40 <quarg> i limit my server s to 6
17:40 <quarg> or even 4
17:40 <quarg> soem times
17:41 <quarg> oppps gtg
17:41 <quarg> mr.quarg@hotmail.com
17:41 <quarg> any time
17:41 <quarg> later
17:41 <tramshed> later
17:41 <philippeqc2> vya
17:41 <philippeqc2> cya
17:47 <tramshed> wow
17:47 <tramshed> I dont remember doing all this shit to fix ripping
17:47 <tramshed> haha
17:48 <tramshed> As for how I keep it from happening, philippe posted a helpful bit of code, I mainly just had to tweak his values out as the ones he had made the grid walls quite sticky, if you touched em you didnt die, you just stopped, i adjusted the value from the default -10 to -1 i believe (Ill check later), playing with that vaue makes the grid walls more or less... squishy, i think would be the proper term. 1 seems to be a solid value and d
17:48 <tramshed> oesnt greatly effect gameplay. I also modified how it measures how close to a player wall you grind, to make it harder to attain 0 (Which seems to be a cause of crashing) Between these two effects server stability has been increased drastically.
17:48 <tramshed> Sorry for diappearing for the weekend, lan parties happen.
17:48 <tramshed> I only BARELY remember doing any of that
17:49 <philippeqc2> i also only have vague memories of that. Good thing it is fixed now!
17:51 <tramshed> indeed
17:51 <tramshed> I remember that made for strange walls, but did temporarily fix it
17:52 <tramshed> im trying to find my old server settings
17:59 <tramshed> haha
17:59 <tramshed> I never did manage to write my own name
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18:22 <epsy> #gmt
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18:28 <epsy> #gmttime
18:28 <epsy> #list time
18:28 <armabot> epsy: at, ctime, elapsed, seconds, time, and until
18:29 <epsy> #ctime
18:29 <armabot> epsy: Sun Aug 12 18:33:46 2007
18:29 <epsy> #time
18:29 <armabot> epsy: 06:33 PM, August 12, 2007
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18:30 <epsy> wrtlprnft, your clock is fucked
18:30 <Durka> LOL!
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19:26 <Durka> hay Monkey_arma
19:26 <Monkey_arma> hi durks :)
19:27 <Monkey_arma> my dialup isp has fecked up so i am on payg tonight!
19:27 <Monkey_arma> might not be fixed till tomorrow :(
19:35 <Durka> #lastseen madmax
19:35 <armabot> Durka: madmax has last been seen on Tigers Network Classic Play 1 day 14 hours 9 minutes ago.
19:35 <Durka> #lastseen Lackadaisical
19:35 <Durka> #lastseen Zop
19:35 <Durka> #lastseen Vanhayes
19:35 <Durka> #lastseen eggcozy
19:35 <armabot> Durka: timed out
19:35 <armabot> Durka: Szopin has last been seen on Fortress Café 1 minute ago.
19:35 <armabot> Durka: Vanhayes has last been seen on Fortress Café 17 hours 12 minutes ago.
19:36 <Durka> #lastseen Zop
19:36 <armabot> Durka: timed out
19:36 <armabot> Durka: Szopin seems to be on Fortress Café right now.
19:36 <Monkey_arma> bah they all smurf nowadays durks
19:36 <Monkey_arma> lastseen erk
19:37 <Monkey_arma> #lastseen erk
19:37 <armabot> Monkey_arma: Erk has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress 1 hour 24 minutes ago.
19:37 <Durka> #lastseen Luzifer
19:37 <armabot> Durka: Luzifer has last been seen on Bugfarm Elimination Sumo 2 days 0 hours 9 minutes ago.
19:37 <Durka> #lastseen newbie
19:37 <armabot> Durka: Newbie has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress 20 minutes ago.
19:38 <Durka> #lastseen newb_e
19:38 <armabot> Durka: Newbie has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress 20 minutes ago.
19:38 <Durka> #lastseen newb
19:38 <armabot> Durka: Newbie has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress 20 minutes ago.
19:38 <Durka> X(
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19:58 <epsy> Monkey_arma, what are you doing ?
19:59 <|Sticky|> any mc players here??
20:00 <philippeqc2> mc = midnight commander?
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20:14 <luke-jr> philippeqc2: "for a while" meaning years and years
20:14 <luke-jr> quarg: ?
20:16 <philippeqc2> luke-jr: sorry, that detail was never clear for me!
20:16 <luke-jr> philippeqc2: as to C++, I don't think I've touched it much recently
20:16 <luke-jr> philippeqc2: in case you haven't noticed, I am no longer an active Armagetron developer, so that need has gone
20:16 <philippeqc2> what do you use for OO
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20:17 <luke-jr> MOO, Python, Perl, mainly
20:17 <philippeqc2> well, you never know when you will need it again, so a good reference could help you (my first link)
20:17 <philippeqc2> neat
20:17 <luke-jr> I don't like C++ anyway
20:17 <luke-jr> Qt supercedes it :)
20:17 <MrBougo> gigo
20:17 <MrBougo> hiho
20:17 * luke-jr forgot to list Qt
20:18 <philippeqc2> Qt is a GUI software toolkit. Qt simplifies the task of writing and maintaining GUI (graphical user interface) applications.
20:18 <philippeqc2> that Qt?
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20:18 <luke-jr> Qt is a language based on C++, but yes
20:18 <luke-jr> Qt started out as a GUI toolkit
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20:19 <philippeqc2> how do you feel it supercede c++ ?
20:19 <luke-jr> it's nicer
20:19 <philippeqc2> in such way as?
20:19 <luke-jr> more portable, etc
20:19 <luke-jr> GUI is part of the language
20:19 <philippeqc2> could you code a bit that shoes that
20:19 <luke-jr> shows it how?
20:19 <philippeqc2> ok, neat. Dont do gui myself
20:20 <MrBougo> shoes
20:20 <MrBougo> lol
20:20 <MrBougo> :(
20:20 <philippeqc2> like a defining a class
20:20 <luke-jr> Qt code can be compiled for OSX, X11, and Windows without platform-specific code
20:20 <MrBougo> nicie
20:20 <MrBougo> not even specific libs?
20:20 <philippeqc2> convenient
20:20 <MrBougo> thats just like java, isnt it?
20:21 <luke-jr> no
20:21 <MrBougo> ow
20:21 <luke-jr> philippeqc2: http://doc.trolltech.com/4.3/mainwindows-application.html
20:22 <luke-jr> philippeqc2: class definition syntax are mostly the same as C++
20:22 <luke-jr> like C++ adds on to C, Qt adds stuff to C++
20:22 <luke-jr> C string: char*
20:22 <luke-jr> C++ string: std::string
20:22 <luke-jr> Qt string: QString
20:22 <philippeqc2> seems good old C++ to me
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20:23 <luke-jr> C++ doesn't support signals/slots, for example
20:23 <luke-jr> Qt adds that capability
20:24 <luke-jr> also an XML dialog layout format
20:25 <philippeqc2> convenient to make GUI's
20:26 <luke-jr> http://doc.trolltech.com/4.3/desktop-screenshot.html
20:26 <luke-jr> cross platform screenshot app
20:26 <luke-jr> http://doc.trolltech.com/4.3/demos-undo.html Undo framework
20:27 <luke-jr> there's also conveniences like the forever{ ... } loop
20:27 <philippeqc2> convenient framework overall
20:27 <luke-jr> which is more or less while(1) { ... }
20:27 <luke-jr> :)
20:30 <philippeqc2> it is a neat c++ framework
20:30 <luke-jr> it's a language =p
20:30 <luke-jr> that's like saying C++ is a neat C framework
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20:32 <philippeqc2> they dont even seem to hold that idea. I dont know what makes you beleive that Qt is a language
20:32 <luke-jr> it redefines the standard string, and also adds statements
20:32 <luke-jr> that puts it beyond doubt on my part to be a new language
20:32 <luke-jr> C++ is no more a language than Qt is
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20:33 <philippeqc2> making a new string object doesnt make a language last time i checked
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20:33 <philippeqc2> then you would beleive that cppunit is a new language too
20:33 <luke-jr> no idea wtf cppunit is
20:33 <luke-jr> but Qt changes as much of C++ as C++ changes of C
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20:35 <philippeqc2> you should really check out cppunit.
20:35 <luke-jr> what is it?
20:35 <philippeqc2> A C++ unit testing framework.
20:36 <luke-jr> don't need a unit testing framework
20:36 <philippeqc2> ???
20:36 <philippeqc2> since when
20:37 <luke-jr> what would I possibly need a unit testing framework for?
20:37 <luke-jr> i write bugfree code
20:37 <luke-jr> :p
20:38 <philippeqc2> well, once you pass the 200 line of code cap, that might not be as true as you'd like it to be
20:38 <luke-jr> passed that about 10 years ago
20:38 <philippeqc2> in a single app I meant ;)
20:38 <luke-jr> even still
20:38 <luke-jr> and
20:38 <luke-jr> it was a joke
20:38 <luke-jr> fyi
20:38 <philippeqc2> and
20:38 <philippeqc2> it was also a joke
20:38 <philippeqc2> fyi
20:38 <luke-jr> :)
20:39 <philippeqc2> so I upped one on you
20:39 <luke-jr> no!
20:39 <luke-jr> I got the mushroom
20:39 <philippeqc2> did so
20:39 <philippeqc2> i poisoned the mushroom, then kissed the princess
20:39 <luke-jr> omg
20:39 * luke-jr dies
20:40 <luke-jr> /bin/sh ../../libtool --silent --tag=CXX --mode=link i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++ -Wno-long-long -Wundef -ansi -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE -Wcast-align -Wchar-subscripts -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith -DNDEBUG -DNO_DEBUG -O2 -O2 -march=pentium-m -pipe -Wformat-security -Wmissing-format-attribute -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -fno-common -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_COMPAT
20:40 <luke-jr> -DQT_NO_TRANSLATION -o libsearchbarplugin.la -rpath /usr/kde/3.5/lib/kde3 -L/usr/kde/3.5/lib -L/usr/qt/3/lib -module -avoid-version -module -no-undefined -Wl,--no-undefined -Wl,--allow-shlib-undefined -R /usr/kde/3.5/lib -R /usr/kde/3.5/lib -R /usr/qt/3/lib searchbar.lo -lkhtml
20:40 <philippeqc2> all's let is a dead italian plummer
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20:40 <noob13> ehem...i have a question..
20:40 <philippeqc2> yes?
20:40 <MrBougo> we're reading
20:40 <MrBougo> cant say listening
20:41 <noob13> :P
20:41 <luke-jr> noob13: no you don't
20:41 <noob13> well im trying to upload a map to the repository
20:41 <MrBougo> ooooooh
20:41 <noob13> and it doesnt validate
20:41 <MrBougo> ooooooooohh
20:41 <luke-jr> noob13: you do or do not; there is no try
20:41 <noob13> what could be wrong
20:41 <philippeqc2> did you manage to make it run locally?
20:41 <noob13> ?
20:41 <luke-jr> noob13: that means your map is abd
20:41 <MrBougo> abd
20:41 <luke-jr> noob13: pastebin the error
20:41 <MrBougo> there's a c missing
20:41 <MrBougo> abcd
20:42 <luke-jr> http://rafb.net/paste/
20:42 <MrBougo> http://pastebin.ca
20:42 <noob13> :P
20:42 <MrBougo> pastebin war!
20:42 <luke-jr> no
20:42 <noob13> ok you want the whole thing?
20:42 <MrBougo> its in the topic, luke
20:42 <luke-jr> dumb canadians
20:42 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o luke-jr] by ChanServ
20:42 <philippeqc2> nooooooooooooooooooooooo
20:43 -!- luke-jr changed the topic of #armagetron to: Latest Version: 0.2.8.2.1 | http://www.armagetronad.net/ | http://electricpotential.net/ircstats/armagetron.html | Gentoo? layman -ka armagetron | AFL discussion is in #afl , most of the time anyhow | pastebin: http://rafb.net/paste/ | Logs: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armalogs/
20:43 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o luke-jr] by luke-jr
20:43 <luke-jr> indeed it is
20:43 <noob13> http://rafb.net/p/uvJV8h77.html
20:44 <luke-jr> noob13: so your doctype is wrong
20:44 <philippeqc2> what dtd are available on the res repo?
20:44 <noob13> ok...so what do i change?
20:44 <luke-jr> ./AATeam/map-0.2.8.0_rc4.dtd
20:44 <luke-jr> ./AATeam/map-0.2.8.0.dtd
20:44 <luke-jr> ./AATeam/cockpit-0.3.0.dtd
20:44 <luke-jr> ./AATeam/map-0.3.1-a.dtd
20:45 <luke-jr> minus the preceding ./
20:45 <MrBougo> ...........................
20:45 <MrBougo> you modified the topic!
20:45 <MrBougo> now i'm agry!
20:45 <MrBougo> very angry!
20:45 <MrBougo> fear my angriness!
20:45 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o luke-jr] by ChanServ
20:45 <MrBougo> err
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20:45 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o luke-jr] by luke-jr
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20:45 <MrBougo> nvm
20:45 <luke-jr> :)
20:45 <MrBougo> i'm still a bit angry though
20:46 <luke-jr> lol
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20:46 <luke-jr> .......
20:46 <luke-jr> x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-g++ -c -I../../../include -Iinclude -Iinternals -Ilibnurbs/internals -Ilibnurbs/interface -Ilibnurbs/nurbtess -Wall -O2 -pipe -march=k8 -fno-strict-aliasing -fPIC -m64 -DGLX_USE_TLS -D_POSIX_SOURCE -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=199309L -D_SVID_SOURCE -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_GNU_SOURCE -DPTHREADS -DUSE_EXTERNAL_DXTN_LIB=1 -DIN_DRI_DRIVER -DGLX_DIRECT_RENDERING -DGLX_INDIRECT_RENDERING -DHAVE_ALIAS -DHAVE_POSIX_MEMALIGN -DNDEBUG
20:46 <luke-jr> -DLIBRARYBUILD libnurbs/internals/arcsorter.cc -o libnurbs/internals/arcsorter.o
20:46 <MrBougo> spammer
20:47 <philippeqc2> luke-jr: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-g++
20:47 <luke-jr> philippeqc2: ?
20:47 <philippeqc2> what, you didnt do a link so your compiler would be x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-qt ?
20:47 <philippeqc2> tsk tsk tsk
20:47 <luke-jr> Mesa is C++
20:48 <luke-jr> not Qt
20:48 <noob13> and i still seem to be confused
20:48 <luke-jr> and Qt on Linux just rewrites the code to C++
20:48 <philippeqc2> and why are we priviledge to get the full listing of your makefile
20:48 <luke-jr> just like the first C++ compiler just rewrote code in C
20:49 <luke-jr> gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.././readline -DRL_LIBRARY_VERSION='"5.1"' -O2 -pipe -march=k8 nls.c
20:49 <luke-jr> gdb is C
20:50 <philippeqc2> luke, your so cute when you think you are right about some crazy position.
20:50 <luke-jr> because it's so crazy to be right
20:51 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/SSOAN/polygon/regular/wildcat-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by SSOAN
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21:11 <Durka> newb|e: ?
21:12 <newb|e> ?
21:12 <Durka> where are u?
21:12 <Durka> we're trying to start
21:13 <newb|e> i will be there in a while, i thought we wait for the other guys till 20gmt
21:13 <Durka> hmmm
21:14 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/SSOAN/polygon/regular/wildcat2-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by SSOAN
21:14 <|Sticky|> we cant wait that long
21:14 <newb|e> i'm not sure if they are going to show up however since lucifer posted that we have a bye and play in the second round, some of them....
21:14 <newb|e> well anyway
21:14 <newb|e> i will join in 1min
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21:20 <MrBougo> 1 min?
21:20 <MrBougo> oh nvm
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21:30 <MrBougo> bye
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00:31 <Stewie-arma> does anyone know how manta is doing on his megashot for Fort Shootout?
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01:06 <Durka> #lastseen infamous
01:06 <armabot> Durka: timed out
01:06 <epsy> wont work
01:07 <Durka> :(
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01:07 <Stewie-arma> #lastseen durka
01:07 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Durka(ToG) seems to be on Server.iZm right now.
01:07 <Stewie-arma> lol
01:07 <epsy> lol
01:07 <Stewie-arma> I g2g to tild I think...
01:08 <epsy> arf shoulda as durka if he had a recording
01:08 <epsy> *asked
01:08 <Stewie-arma> he doesn't I'm pretty sure...
01:08 <epsy> :/
01:08 <Stewie-arma> btw I meant tilt
01:08 <Stewie-arma> lol
01:09 <epsy> heh
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01:28 <epsy> hi
01:28 <Lackadaisical> damn i missed the afl playoffs?
01:28 <epsy> you are a "bit" late
01:28 <Lackadaisical> haha oh well
01:28 <epsy> X won as i predicted
01:29 <Lackadaisical> who played for kod?
01:29 <epsy> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=AFL_Spring_2007_Results#Tards_vs_.7Cx.7C
01:29 <epsy> durka, luzi, newb
01:29 <Lackadaisical> doh
01:29 <epsy> no recording for now :/
01:29 <Lackadaisical> i think we couldve won if max and me had played
01:29 <epsy> possible
01:29 <Lackadaisical> i told max we had a bye today earlier this week :(
01:29 <Lackadaisical> damnit
01:29 <epsy> meh
01:30 <Lackadaisical> pff
01:30 <epsy> =)
01:30 <Lackadaisical> so they played 3v5?
01:30 <epsy> i think it's that
01:31 <epsy> but druka's too lazy to say anything so this is just my trought
01:31 <epsy> s
01:32 <Lackadaisical> i think durka is just pissed off because 4 out of 7 members failed to show up :(
01:32 <Lackadaisical> i would :/
01:32 <epsy> he is always like that
01:32 <epsy> ;P
01:33 <Lackadaisical> damnit i really REALLY thought we had this league in the pocket
01:33 <epsy> the bracklets were messed up
01:36 <epsy> he just connected, told him to come here
01:39 <epsy> err
01:39 <epsy> i was gonna do something
01:39 <epsy> but...
01:39 <epsy> what??
01:39 <Lackadaisical> go to bed? ;)
01:41 <epsy> posible
01:43 <epsy> *s
01:43 <epsy> probable i might even say
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02:10 <epsy> #m wrtlprnft i got the weird buggy slides on other servers too...so your clock isn't the problem...probably some bug to inspect
02:10 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
02:29 <epsy> #night
02:29 <armabot> Good night epsy!
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03:29 <GodTodd> #quote add "luke, your so cute when you think you are right about some crazy position." - philippeqc2
03:29 <armabot> GodTodd: The operation succeeded. Quote #58 added.
03:32 <Stewie-arma> Todd when was that said?
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03:35 <GodTodd> [2007-08-12 13:54] <philippeqc2> luke, your so cute when you think you are right about some crazy position.
03:35 <GodTodd> almost 7 hours ago :)
04:36 <DrJoeTron> thats fucking awesome
04:59 <Lucifer_arma> random shit
05:01 <Lucifer_arma> #weather
05:01 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 85.3°F (10:05 PM CDT on August 12, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 66.2°F. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Rising).
05:01 <Lucifer_arma> summer finally came, it peaked at 102 today
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05:44 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: GodTodd (hi there!) luke-jr (hi there!) ping
05:44 <spidey> ?
05:55 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: wtf u want
05:56 <luke-jr> spidey: should I kick him to get his attention back?
05:56 <luke-jr> since he so rudely pinged us and disappeared...
05:57 <Stewie-arma> #weather
05:57 <armabot> Stewie-arma: (weather <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city.
05:58 <Stewie-arma> #weather 92037
05:58 <armabot> Stewie-arma: The current temperature in La Jolla Shores, La Jolla, California is 77.4°F (8:59 PM PDT on August 12, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 66.2°F. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013.4 hPa (Rising).
05:58 <Stewie-arma> ...
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06:44 <Lucifer_arma> heh
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> freeciv?
06:45 <Stewie-arma> *cough*no one is on*cough*
06:45 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, sure
06:45 <spidey> :)
06:46 <Stewie-arma> I just can't stop playing Tremulous ^_^
06:46 <spidey> lol
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> anybody else?
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> #last --from luke-jr --nolimit
06:47 <spidey> just run 2 popular servers
06:47 <spidey> now i dread going into trem
06:47 <Stewie-arma> and I've always been a sci fi nerd so you can see where I get the love
06:47 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: [06:01:18] <luke-jr> since he so rudely pinged us and disappeared..., [06:00:52] <luke-jr> spidey: should I kick him to get his attention back?, [05:59:45] <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: wtf u want, [20:55:15] <luke-jr> because it's so crazy to be right, [20:53:45] <luke-jr> gdb is C, [20:53:42] <luke-jr> gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.././readline -DRL_LIBRARY_VERSION='"5.1"' -O2 -pipe (50 more messages)
06:47 <Stewie-arma> #more
06:47 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Forum: <http://www.thetechguide.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=53904>; 4chan rapidshares: <http://rapidsearch.yi.org/>; Category: 4chan - LURKMORE: <http://www.lurkmore.com/wiki/index.php?title=4chan>; 4chan - Wikichan: <http://wikichan.org/index.php/4chan>; Yotsuba&! | Download Yotsuba | Скачать Yotsuba: <http://4chan.biz/>; 4chan: (1 more message)
06:48 <Stewie-arma> lol yes
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> I want to play on the world map
06:48 <Stewie-arma> I love how it is all references to /b/ and it's memes
06:48 <Stewie-arma> btw they spelled LURKMOAR wrong...
06:49 <Stewie-arma> well off to play more trem ^_^
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: you want to get 2.1beta4, but it's pretty unstable :/
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> it has the air unit problem fixed, I think
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> if not, then I think I'd rather just go back to 2.0, because 2.1 is really bad for what you get (crashes too much!)
06:51 <luke-jr> I can't play tonight
06:51 <luke-jr> Mon night is okay tho
06:53 <Lucifer_arma> ok, 2.1 server running at www.davefancella.com port 5556
06:55 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, luke just reminded me, I'm probably not going to be able to play tomorrow :)
06:56 <luke-jr> ...
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: coming?
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: ping
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> (he's probably asleep or something)
06:58 <Lucifer_arma> spidey, spidey spidey spideeeeeeeyyY!
07:00 * Lucifer_arma pings spidey
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> he probably had a heart attack when he realized he was about to play freeciv
07:01 <luke-jr> lol
07:01 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o luke-jr] by ChanServ
07:01 -!- spidey was kicked from #armagetron by luke-jr [wake up]
07:01 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o luke-jr] by luke-jr
07:02 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o luke-jr] by ChanServ
07:02 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o luke-jr] by luke-jr
07:02 <luke-jr> no autojoin on invite I guess
07:06 <tramshed> jgjkh
07:07 <luke-jr> tramshed: come play
07:10 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o Lucifer_arma] by ChanServ
07:10 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o Lucifer_arma] by Lucifer_arma
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd:
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07:11 <spidey> ban that mother fucker
07:11 <luke-jr> ROFL
07:11 <spidey> spamming me and unjustly kick
07:11 <tramshed> where?
07:11 <tramshed> and what
07:11 <spidey> * Received a CTCP wakeup from luke-jr (to #armagetron)
07:11 <spidey> * Received a CTCP PING 1186981439 from luke-jr
07:11 <spidey> * Received a CTCP PING 1186981440 from luke-jr
07:11 <spidey> * Received a CTCP PING 1186981440 from luke-jr
07:11 <spidey> * Received a CTCP PING 1186981440 from luke-jr
07:11 <spidey> * Received a CTCP PING 1186981443 from luke-jr
07:11 <tramshed> im eating onion rolls
07:11 <spidey> * Received a CTCP PING 1186981443 from luke-jr
07:11 <spidey> * Received a CTCP PING 1186981444 from luke-jr
07:11 <spidey> * Received a CTCP PING 1186981446 from luke-jr
07:11 <spidey> * Received a CTCP PING 1186981447 from luke-jr
07:11 <spidey> * Received a CTCP PING 1186981448 from luke-jr
07:11 <luke-jr> you forgot the phone call
07:11 <spidey> that was you?
07:12 <luke-jr> lol
07:12 <spidey> i thought it was my brothers girlfriend
07:12 <luke-jr> LOL
07:12 <spidey> i was gonna tell her/you to stop calling this goddamn late people are trying to sleep
07:12 <spidey> but w/e
07:12 <luke-jr> hurry it up
07:12 <spidey> i gotta download it
07:12 <luke-jr> ...
07:13 <spidey> what's the link to the version i need?
07:13 <luke-jr> svn://svn.gna.org/svn/freeciv/branches/S2_1
07:13 <luke-jr> hurry up
07:13 <spidey> not svn fool, you know i'm on windows
07:13 <luke-jr> I gotta be on a plane in a few hours
07:14 <luke-jr> and you know none of us are
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> ftp://ftp.freeciv.org/freeciv/packages/windows/Freeciv-2.1.0-beta4-win32-gtk2-setup.exe
07:16 <spidey> Warning
07:16 <spidey> Cannot find "ftp://ftp.freeciv.org/freeciv/packages/windows/Freeciv-2.1.0-beta4-win32-gtk2-setup.exe"
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> however, afaik you don't have to use this version at all, you might use an older one if you want
07:16 <luke-jr> ftp://ftp.freeciv.org/freeciv/packages/windows/Freeciv-2.1.0-beta4-win32-gtk2-setup.exe
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> ?
07:16 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: my older svn didn't work
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> I got a prompt to download it
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07:17 <Lucifer_arma> er
07:17 <luke-jr> your turn to call
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07:17 <Lucifer_arma> I think I caused his irc client to crash
07:17 <spidey> don't do that :p
07:18 <luke-jr> ...
07:18 <luke-jr> how?
07:18 <Lucifer_arma> jabber?
07:18 <luke-jr> O.o
07:18 <spidey> tell him and i go back to playing tremulous :p
07:18 <spidey> sure
07:18 <Lucifer_arma> #last --from luke-jr --nolimit
07:18 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: [07:22:57] <luke-jr> O.o, [07:22:44] <luke-jr> how?, [07:22:42] <luke-jr> ..., [07:22:15] <luke-jr> your turn to call, [07:21:23] <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: my older svn didn't work, [07:21:12] <luke-jr> ftp://ftp.freeciv.org/freeciv/packages/windows/Freeciv-2.1.0-beta4-win32-gtk2-setup.exe, [07:18:53] <luke-jr> and you know none of us are, [07:18:35] <luke-jr> I gotta be on a plane in a (50 more messages)
07:19 <spidey> will you stop fucking ctcp'ing me
07:19 <spidey> it's annoying
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> um, di dyou get the file?
07:20 <spidey> it like
07:20 <spidey> canceled or something
07:20 <spidey> it was awaiting
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> I might have a port blocked
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> fuck this, I've got a better way
07:20 <luke-jr> ...
07:20 <spidey> ssh?
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.davefancella.com/Freeciv-2.1.0-beta4-win32-gtk2-setup.exe
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> brb, gotta pee
07:25 <spidey> fuck
07:25 <spidey> what is it with me
07:25 <Lucifer_arma> back, what did I miss?
07:25 <luke-jr> now what
07:25 <spidey> every day i clean up my desktop
07:25 <luke-jr> just stfu and play
07:25 <Lucifer_arma> every night it's a mess?
07:25 <spidey> i go from 5 rows of 16px icons at 1280x1024, to 2 1/2 rows, then back to 5
07:25 <spidey> every single day :/
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> I just hit the switch in KDE that disables desktop icons :)
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> problem solved
07:26 <spidey> heh
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> did freeciv give you a desktop icon?
07:26 <spidey> sec
07:26 <spidey> isntalling
07:26 <spidey> no it didn't
07:27 <spidey> port?
07:27 <luke-jr> 556
07:27 <luke-jr> 5556
07:28 <spidey> assertion error
07:28 <spidey> tech.c
07:28 <luke-jr> (#*)$#%
07:30 <Lucifer_arma> heh, fuck
07:30 <Lucifer_arma> anybody mind just going back to 2.0 tonight?
07:30 <Lucifer_arma> won't take me long to build...
07:30 <luke-jr> I don't care.......
07:30 <luke-jr> #last --from luke-jr --with rev
07:30 <armabot> luke-jr: [20:31:56] <luke-jr> there's also conveniences like the forever{ ... } loop
07:31 <spidey> i think i know what it is
07:31 <luke-jr> #last --from luke-jr --with rev 13
07:31 <armabot> luke-jr: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; (1 more message)
07:31 <luke-jr> #last --from luke-jr --with "rev 13"
07:31 <armabot> luke-jr: [07:35:55] <luke-jr> #last --from luke-jr --with rev 13
07:31 <spidey> they misspelled player
07:31 <spidey> pplayer->ai.science_cost > 0
07:31 * luke-jr smacks spidey
07:31 <luke-jr> #last --from luke-jr --with revision
07:31 <armabot> luke-jr: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 50000 messages.
07:32 <luke-jr> #last --from luke-jr --with "rev 13" --without last
07:32 <armabot> luke-jr: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 50000 messages.
07:32 <spidey> luke-jr, i'm not really paying attention to you since half of what you say makes no since
07:32 <luke-jr> #last --from luke-jr --with "rev" --without last --nolimit
07:32 <spidey> so stfu
07:32 <spidey> sense*
07:32 <armabot> luke-jr: [20:31:56] <luke-jr> there's also conveniences like the forever{ ... } loop, [07:52:57] <luke-jr> #echo what rev works?, and [05:12:28] <luke-jr> svn rev 12692 works decent
07:32 <Lucifer_arma> either we go to an older 2.1 beta, or we go back to 2.0, anybody have a preference?
07:32 <luke-jr> #echo how about 2.1 rev 12692?
07:32 <armabot> how about 2.1 rev 12692?
07:32 <luke-jr> #echo I'm fine with 2.0 tho
07:32 <armabot> I'm fine with 2.0 tho
07:33 <Lucifer_arma> fine, 2.0 works and is known to work :)
07:33 <luke-jr> #echo especially seeing as freeciv's svn is down
07:33 <armabot> especially seeing as freeciv's svn is down
07:33 <Lucifer_arma> and there's a bugfix from what we played last from 2.0 anyway
07:33 <Lucifer_arma> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/freeciv/Freeciv-2.0.9-win32-gtk2-setup.exe?download <-- windows
07:33 <Lucifer_arma> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/freeciv/freeciv-2.0.9.tar.gz?download <--- source
07:33 <luke-jr> #echo GodTodd playing too?
07:33 <armabot> GodTodd playing too?
07:35 <GodTodd> luke-jr: depends...you sucking my dick?
07:36 * luke-jr toasts GodTodd
07:36 <GodTodd> no answer means yes :)
07:36 <luke-jr> or no
07:36 <spidey> dick sucker
07:36 <spidey> D:
07:36 <luke-jr> spidey: virgin
07:37 <GodTodd> luke-jr: i already defined no answer to mean yes...you can't redefine it
07:37 <Lucifer_arma> let's see if my server builds slower than my client
07:37 <GodTodd> luke-jr: so, you are a dick sucker :)
07:37 <Lucifer_arma> hey, when a woman says no, it means no :)
07:37 <spidey> luke-jr...
07:37 <luke-jr> lol
07:37 <spidey> actually, i'm not
07:37 <spidey> and
07:37 <luke-jr> well you should be
07:37 <spidey> the only reason you're not is because you actually found a woman that felt sorry for you
07:38 <luke-jr> you wish
07:38 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: you might be able to do an apt-get for a freeciv that works
07:38 <Lucifer_arma> 2.0.x of course
07:38 <luke-jr> apt-get is obsolete
07:38 <Lucifer_arma> hah, client built faster than the server
07:38 <spidey> you're obsolete
07:38 <spidey> they invented cats, to replace you
07:38 <spidey> or cockroaches
07:39 <luke-jr> who is they?
07:39 <GodTodd> spidey: no...they sent the fleas to get rid of him
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> ok, server's up
07:39 <spidey> heh
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> 2.0.x :)
07:39 <luke-jr> spidey: faster
07:39 <luke-jr> GodTodd: faster
07:39 <luke-jr> Ctrl-R is fun
07:40 <GodTodd> luke-jr: faster? wtf?
07:40 <spidey> shut ya dicksucker :D
07:40 <luke-jr> spidey: idler
07:40 <luke-jr> GodTodd: ftw!
07:41 <luke-jr> GodTodd: we must be siblings
07:41 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: coming?
07:42 <GodTodd> luke-jr: don't *ever* compare me to dombrowskis :)
07:43 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: building
07:43 <luke-jr> GodTodd: just aptitude install it
07:43 <luke-jr> GodTodd: wtf is that?
07:43 <luke-jr> yay ctrl-r
07:43 <GodTodd> luke-jr: ftw!
07:44 <luke-jr> GodTodd:
07:44 <GodTodd> luke-jr:
07:44 <spidey> luke-jr,
07:44 <spidey> GodTodd,
07:44 <luke-jr> thx
07:44 <spidey> luke-jr,
07:44 <spidey> GodTodd,
07:44 <spidey> luke-jr,
07:44 <spidey> GodTodd,
07:44 <luke-jr> more spidey plz
07:44 <Lucifer_arma> man, we're like soooooooooo ready
07:44 <spidey> any more spideys in this world and you wouldn't stand a chance of living till you was 25
07:44 <GodTodd> luke's begging for your sex, spidey :)
07:45 <Lucifer_arma> I would go back and apply the warserv patch by the time GodTodd gets there
07:45 * GodTodd would already be there if 2.1 was worth a fuck :)
07:45 <Lucifer_arma> ;)
07:45 <luke-jr> GodTodd: spidey says you taste good with butter and syrup mixed in
07:46 <spidey> i couldn't lie
07:46 <GodTodd> luke-jr: leave me out of your sexual fantasies please
07:46 <GodTodd> #quote get 58
07:46 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #58: "luke, your so cute when you think you are right about some crazy position. - philippeqc2" (added by GodTodd at 03:34 AM, August 13, 2007)
07:46 <luke-jr> #quote get 0
07:46 <armabot> luke-jr: Error: There is no Quote with id #0 in my database for #armagetron.
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> #q
07:46 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #33: "that wasn't a war, that was you losing units trying to attack one city...then mom joined in with howtizers-spidey" (added by spidey at 04:07 AM, November 07, 2006)
07:46 <luke-jr> #quote get 1
07:46 <armabot> luke-jr: Quote #1: "Was this compiled by our friend Sum Ting Wong? --WallyWallWhackr" (added by Lucifer_arma at 06:37 AM, March 24, 2006)
07:46 <GodTodd> #quote get 21
07:46 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #21: "<Luke-Jr_work__> btw, pedophile is good" (added by spidey at 06:34 AM, September 09, 2006)
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> #q
07:46 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #37: "Out of the whole multitude of prudent men in the world, the great majority are so from timidity. --Clausewitz" (added by Lucifer_arma at 12:40 PM, December 09, 2006)
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> #q
07:47 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #3: "um, try spelling it wirght :) -- Lucifer" (added by Lucifer_arma at 06:22 AM, March 27, 2006)
07:47 <GodTodd> damn....i hope i passed calc 2 :/
07:47 <luke-jr> unlikely
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> final was a killer?
07:48 <GodTodd> luke-jr: if i want your opinion, i'll give it to you
07:48 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: 8 murders on his record
07:48 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: it was like a 15 pager
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> jesus fucking christ
07:48 <GodTodd> had to do it in 1:45
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> multiple choice?
07:49 <GodTodd> hell no
07:49 <luke-jr> lol
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> man
07:49 <GodTodd> yeah :/
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> calc 2 tests are supposed to occupy one page
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> but take 15 pages to complete
07:49 <GodTodd> he's a phd mathematician from UTD
07:49 <GodTodd> so he expects a lot :)
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> you done building yet?
07:50 <GodTodd> otoh...if i passed his class in 5 weeks, then i did damn well :)
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> sudo apt-get install freeciv-client-gtk
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> :)
07:51 <spidey> sudo mv luke-jr /home/jail/.trash
07:51 <luke-jr> spidey: no
07:51 <spidey> luke-jr, this isn't a democracy bitch
07:52 <GodTodd> i think i've almost got my wife convinced to let me dual boot her laptop ;)
07:52 <spidey> lol
07:52 <luke-jr> spidey: exactly
07:52 <luke-jr> it's a monarchy
07:52 <luke-jr> with me as the king
07:52 <luke-jr> so stfu luser
07:52 <spidey> fine
07:52 <GodTodd> and luke-jr is the queen
07:52 <luke-jr> ...
07:52 * spidey stabs luke-jr in the throat
07:52 <Lucifer_arma> he's a killer queeeeeeeeeeen
07:52 <spidey> now i'm the king, loser
07:52 <luke-jr> spidey: nope
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> guaranteed to blow your mind
07:53 <luke-jr> spidey: David is
07:53 <spidey> or your head
07:53 <GodTodd> dave is king?
07:53 <spidey> D:
07:53 <luke-jr> spidey: haha! I have a heir all ready
07:53 <GodTodd> then i'm moving to canada
07:53 <GodTodd> haha
07:53 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma isn't allowed to be a David
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> what's taking so long?
07:53 <GodTodd> ./civ
07:53 * Lucifer_arma is going to take advantage of the lull in the game to move outside
07:53 <GodTodd> that's what :)
07:53 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: he's claiming you're a David
07:54 <GodTodd> i did no such thing...i said he was a dave
07:54 <GodTodd> you took a misguided catholic leap and fit it to whatever use you wanted
07:54 <GodTodd> :)
07:54 <luke-jr> no, it was guided
07:55 <GodTodd> by satan?
07:55 <GodTodd> :D
07:55 <luke-jr> by my sleep
07:55 <luke-jr> phear my sleep
07:56 <GodTodd> phear mi 1337ness joo fscking n00b!
07:56 <Lucifer_arma> ummm, www.davefancella.com port 5556
07:57 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, what civ are you?
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> considering german
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> you?
07:58 <spidey> was thinking aztec
07:58 <spidey> is this the world map?
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> todd usually picks americans
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, world map
07:58 <spidey> australian isn't open :(
07:59 <GodTodd> pick...if you take german, i'll take american
07:59 <GodTodd> if you don't, then i'll take german :P
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08:28 <beta_usa> hi
08:28 <philippeqc> hello
08:30 <beta_usa> awesome, armagetron server seems to need only 10 libs. This should be esay to chroot.
08:35 <beta_usa> Hum, but I guess i'll need /dev/null, so i'll have to bind /dev. I don't really like the idea.
08:36 <tramshed> you dont really need me.
08:37 <beta_usa> Are you /dev/null ? :p
08:39 <philippeqc> beta_usa: chrooting libs? mapping to /dev/null!!!! Have you tried to just install the app and like, run it?
08:39 <tramshed> hah, actually, I am
08:39 <beta_usa> Yes, and it works fine.
08:40 <beta_usa> It's just for an increased security.
08:40 <philippeqc> ain't broken means no fixing! that easy man!
08:40 <philippeqc> wtf???
08:41 <beta_usa> It'll be broken if someone can exploit armagetron to get a shell.
08:41 <philippeqc> i think you are confusing security with random actions that will disrupt your system
08:41 <tramshed> dont run the server as root?
08:41 <beta_usa> With a chrooted jaill with a restricted user an no /bin, that'll make it more difficult to gain root privileges.
08:42 <tramshed> heh, I dont think ive ever heard of anyone gaining a shell from tron
08:42 <beta_usa> then i'll be the st one :)
08:42 <tramshed> doesnt mean its not possible, but we used to have some real assholes trying to fuck up tron
08:42 <philippeqc> let rephrase that using everyday metaphore. As you prepare yourself to have sexual encounter with a member of your prefered sex, rather than to put a condom, you throw your car keys in the lake so as not to get caught driving drunk.
08:43 <tramshed> what the fuck was that one guys name who used to spend all day trying to crash servers
08:43 <tramshed> man he annoyed the piss out of me
08:44 <beta_usa> philippeqc: i don't know what you are saying, but i am working with good hackers (crackers actually) and i'm paranoiac, so tron will be chrooted as is apache or sendmail or anything else.
08:44 <tramshed> why not just run it on its own little dumbox
08:44 <tramshed> if you are that paranoid
08:44 <philippeqc> have you ever though of installing a virtual machine on your puter, and running aa from it?
08:44 <tramshed> and just remove everything absolutely not required to run tron
08:45 <beta_usa> tramshed: well that's the point, if someone try to crash what i did, i'd like to think that i did everything to slow him down
08:45 <philippeqc> as a general concept, I would not take my security advice from hackers and crackers
08:45 <beta_usa> what's the difference between the dumbox and the chroot ?
08:45 <tramshed> why would the people you work with try to crash your tron server
08:45 <tramshed> dumbox=old p2 computer with nothing it it
08:46 <tramshed> I ran a tron server for a fair amount of time just as a normal nothin special user and never had any problems
08:46 <tramshed> even if they did manage to shell there isnt much they can do but fuck up that account
08:46 <beta_usa> I'm not thinking of them, i just know they can have a shell in, say, perhaps 75% of any UNIX server (even big companies).
08:46 <tramshed> having a shell and actually being able to do something useful are two different things though
08:47 <beta_usa> the computer is in a datacenter (to have better bw and ping) and there are other services.
08:47 <beta_usa> I know.
08:47 <tramshed> I understand your paranoia, but it seems to me to be unfounded
08:47 <beta_usa> It probably is.
08:47 <tramshed> gives you sometihng to do though
08:47 <beta_usa> But the probability that it isn't is not null.
08:48 <beta_usa> Indeed.
08:48 <tramshed> and btw, you probably dont have to mount /dev
08:48 <tramshed> you could just let the output pile up in a file named /dev/null
08:48 <beta_usa> I hope so
08:48 <tramshed> maybe make a cron to delete it every now and then
08:49 <tramshed> since its not actually requiring anything from it like its an actual device, that simplifies things a bit
08:49 <beta_usa> Yeah, but it's not the only dev i can think of (like /dev/(u)random or /dev/zero)
08:49 <beta_usa> But that's a good point
08:49 <philippeqc> better than all of your chrooting, why not run the game in the "shutdown" mode of unix/linux.
08:49 <beta_usa> init 2 ?
08:50 <beta_usa> Ok, i'm workin on it now.
08:50 <philippeqc> once that mode is started, it is no longer possible to start new processes. You just need to make sure that a) you dont kill aa and b) you dont actually shutdown the 'puter
08:50 <tramshed> lol
08:50 <philippeqc> there was an article back then on slashdot about a group running their firewall like that.
08:50 <tramshed> thats not a bad idea
08:51 <tramshed> hack my box and get nothing! woot!
08:51 <tramshed> couldnt do it for anything that needed to really do things, but for simple stuff thats snazzy
08:51 <philippeqc> though to administer as you have to use the console, and the puter is not available for anything else, but well you seem like that type of crazy person anyway! ;)
08:52 <philippeqc> I guess the option to restart the server after some idle time would not work on such a setup
08:52 <tramshed> indeed
08:53 <tramshed> seems a wee bit paranoid though
08:53 <beta_usa> That's a good point too, i can also use selinux (well i'd rather use RSBAC actually). That's the next thing i can do.
08:54 <philippeqc> next thing would be to air-gap the server
08:54 <philippeqc> ;)
08:55 <beta_usa> Or unplug it. Maximum security \o/
08:55 <tramshed> fuck it, you just better not use the internet
08:55 <tramshed> its aol for you
08:56 <philippeqc> lol!
08:56 <tramshed> I got some good crushing and killing in on swampland earlier today
08:56 <philippeqc> Well you know what they say: No all the morons come from aol.
08:56 <tramshed> yeah, the rest come from netzero
08:56 <tramshed> and canada
08:56 * tramshed duck
08:56 * tramshed ducks too
09:00 * philippeqc grabs his hunting gun. *bam* *bam*... suddenly the poor bird drop from the sky like a stone, to be carried back in the mouth of my dog.
09:00 <tramshed> hah
09:01 <philippeqc> tramshed: I understand your inferiority complex. It is always though to life with a younger brother twice as smart as you!
09:01 <philippeqc> ;)
09:01 <tramshed> hah
09:01 <tramshed> holy fuckin hell
09:01 <tramshed> this dude is like the god of bittorrent seeders
09:01 <tramshed> 1 djraziel127 1,742.68TB 23.64GB
09:02 <tramshed> the first number is his uploaded, the second is down
09:02 <tramshed> 1.7petafuckinbytes
09:02 <luke-jr> beta_usa: just mknod
09:03 <tramshed> dont help him!
09:03 <tramshed> no, dont do it!
09:03 <tramshed> he was this close to forgoing the internet altogether
09:03 <philippeqc> to all american citizen: could you please contact your senator about the online radios act? I mean please, I'd like them to stay on.
09:04 <philippeqc> tramshed: --^
09:04 <tramshed> indeed
09:04 <tramshed> they cant shut down wfmu though
09:04 <tramshed> non profit
09:04 <tramshed> so they can suck balls.
09:04 <philippeqc> Could you just write a letter to your senator!
09:05 <tramshed> Im a felon, felons cant vote
09:05 <philippeqc> You dont need to mention that in the letter
09:05 <tramshed> lol
09:05 <philippeqc> Last time I checked, you still could write letters, and send them to politicians
09:06 <philippeqc> I'll even paypal you the cost of the stamp
09:06 <tramshed> hah
09:06 <tramshed> I might, I dont know who my senator is though
09:06 <tramshed> probably some jackass
09:07 <philippeqc> google his name, forget his jackassness for a day or two, and use paper!
09:07 <philippeqc> luke-jr: that holds true for you too
09:08 <tramshed> wow
09:08 <tramshed> that was a cool error
09:08 <tramshed> Cannot Delete File (Cannot Read From Source Or Disk)
09:08 <tramshed> on the hd im currently booted on
09:13 <beta_usa> luke-jr: good one, i was looking for a fifo pipe, mknod looks better.
09:23 <tramshed> haha, thats a good quote
09:23 <tramshed> Im gonna get famous just so I can get sued
09:23 <tramshed> followed up with Jesus is my girlfriend
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10:11 <epsy> hi
10:12 <beta_usa> salut
10:14 * epsy just got an idea to get rid of the Bastard Global Settings Variables From Hell
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10:57 <beta_usa> Ok, tron doesn't seems to need /dev, but it needs /proc.
10:57 <beta_usa> On GNU/Linux anyway. Let's try on OpenBSD, i'd like to see how this will be handeled.
10:57 <epsy> what's the default screenshot key ?
10:58 <spidey> printscreen?
10:58 <epsy> i hope so
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11:21 <epsy> hi max
11:22 <madmax> hi
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14:12 <xFlex> greetings
14:21 <tramshed> har
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14:27 <epsy> hi flex
14:27 <epsy> xFlex, too late, your shots goes to hell :)
14:28 <beta_usa> Chroot is working perfectly now, but the server can't talk to master servers :/
14:29 <epsy> maybe you need to have a working net in your chroot
14:30 <beta_usa> Well, i can already use it.
14:30 <epsy> and now i'm off until the evening, i'ill be doing the other swhots this evening
14:30 <epsy> ah
14:31 <beta_usa> But only from curstom connection, not from the list.
14:31 <xFlex> bye :P
14:31 <epsy> *-w
14:32 <beta_usa> bye
14:33 <beta_usa> Hum, it can resolve names, i put the master ips, but it still don't work.
14:33 <beta_usa> s/can/can't/
14:35 <beta_usa> gah i'm just stupid.
14:35 <beta_usa> it's working perfectly.
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16:11 <beta_usa> Damn, i was kicked i don't even know why.
16:11 <MrBougo> lol
16:11 <MrBougo> by who?
16:11 <beta_usa> Nobody polled me and I wasn't flooding.
16:11 <MrBougo> oh
16:11 <beta_usa> Surprise kick...
16:30 <beta_usa> Chroot can now resolve names \o/
16:30 <beta_usa> Now it's working without dirty hacks and no ip hardcoded.
16:32 <tramshed> only took you 12 hours
16:34 <beta_usa> I wasn't focused only on this. I played (like you can see above), i changed the motd with nice colors (alright, it's ulgy), I worked (yes, i'm supposed to work, it's monday).
16:34 <beta_usa> Btw, my kick time should be over.
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16:49 <xFlex> Anyone know what's up with bugfarm elimination sumo server?
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16:59 <MrBougo> noe
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17:54 <Rebel_Eclipsed> Hello all
17:54 <Rebel_Eclipsed> luke-jr_work, you around?
17:56 <luke-jr_work> no
17:56 <Rebel_Eclipsed> lol
17:56 <luke-jr_work> ...
17:57 <Rebel_Eclipsed> I have a question about our service...
17:57 <luke-jr_work> #armalukechat
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18:26 <GodTodd> woot....don't need to retake calc 2 :D
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19:59 <epsy> xFlex, z-man-work probably took it down for the playoffs
19:59 <epsy> but he had w/e to do immediately for the next 10 days
20:04 <epsy> #ping
20:04 <armabot> pong
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20:05 <epsy> 2 mins ago isent « #ping » :/
20:05 <MrBougo> hiho
20:05 <MrBougo> #ping
20:05 <armabot> pong
20:06 <epsy> lu
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20:40 <Lucifer_arma> man, who wiped out the canadians?
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20:44 <spidey> ?
20:44 <MrBougo> ?
20:44 * spidey yawns
20:45 <MrBougo> so does /me
20:45 <MrBougo> ew
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21:14 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: says canadians are RIP
21:15 <spidey> o.O
21:16 <Lucifer_arma> looks to me like there's only one french city left
21:23 <MrBougo> bye
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21:40 * epsy re-trys connecting to the wiki
21:40 <epsy> -_-
21:41 <epsy> narf -_- nothing
21:41 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, luke-jr|work GodTodd wanna pick up the game from last night?
21:41 <epsy> 18 seconds lag ftw
22:04 <Vanhayes> ugh, you played civ last night?
22:05 <Stewie-arma> they tried to...
22:06 <Vanhayes> bah, I want to play a good game of civ soon
22:07 <Stewie-arma> again I liked Civ II better...
22:07 <Stewie-arma> the user interface was much easier to use.
22:07 <spidey> Vanhayes, if luke doesn't continue with the one we have you might be able to take the egyptians :p
22:07 <spidey> i'm suicidial though
22:07 <spidey> i have a stupid plan, for when the game resumes
22:08 <Stewie-arma> btw spidey how long have you been playing trem?
22:08 <spidey> months
22:08 <spidey> around the time i stopped playing tron
22:08 <Stewie-arma> oh then long times
22:08 <Stewie-arma> lol I've been playing for 5 days ^_^
22:08 <spidey> heh
22:10 <Vanhayes> hmm, how far along is the game spidey ?
22:10 <spidey> you still have 2.0.9?
22:10 <spidey> it's at 1035AD
22:10 <Vanhayes> ack
22:11 <Vanhayes> me and luke have very different styles, so If I did take over It would be interesting
22:11 <spidey> todd took luke
22:11 <spidey> egyptian is AI
22:11 <spidey> and near me
22:11 <spidey> actually right above my african cities
22:11 <Vanhayes> oh ok, ai usually do the same thing every game
22:11 <spidey> i took over aussieland
22:12 <Vanhayes> is it the newest beta or the one we used before?
22:12 <spidey> i have 16 cities half at size 12 and half at 8
22:12 <spidey> it's the 2.0.9 version
22:12 <spidey> we've used it before
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22:13 <Stewie-arma> oh so you guys couldn't get the 2.1 going?
22:13 <luke-jr|work> spidey: ...
22:13 <spidey> ....
22:13 <spidey> luke-jr|work, im
22:13 <luke-jr|work> resume from my save
22:13 <Vanhayes> I remember playing with the beta before
22:13 <luke-jr|work> :)
22:13 <Stewie-arma> why isn't tronner responding?
22:13 <luke-jr|work> spidey: IM
22:13 <Vanhayes> I think tronner is labotomized here
22:13 <Stewie-arma> awww
22:14 <Stewie-arma> that's better (went to do ... in #afl) ;P
22:14 <Vanhayes> heh
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22:15 <tramshed> would you like a sampling platter of my ballsweat?
22:15 <Stewie-arma> no...
22:15 <Stewie-arma> actually I would never
22:16 <tramshed> are you sure?
22:16 <Stewie-arma> yes
22:16 <tramshed> we just added new sunrise morning balls to the list of available flavors
22:16 <Stewie-arma> to bad it's afternoob
22:16 <Stewie-arma> lol
22:16 <Stewie-arma> afternoon
22:16 <tramshed> Its sunrise somewhere.
22:17 <tramshed> balls are always in style
22:17 <tramshed> where would the world be without balls?
22:20 <Vanhayes> unpopulated
22:20 <spidey> tramshed, asexual and men fucking men? O:
22:21 <tramshed> hah
22:22 <Vanhayes> spidey: luke-jr|work Anyone else: want to start a civ game?
22:22 <spidey> i'm in
22:22 <spidey> until luci wants to start the save
22:22 <Stewie-arma> I'm out
22:23 <Vanhayes> I just need to play a game so I can warm up, I havent played in a long time
22:24 <spidey> i have way to much junk on this pc
22:24 <spidey> i'm closing in on my 240gb max hdd space :(
22:24 <Stewie-arma> awww
22:24 <spidey> soon i'ma be filling up the rest of the network with junk aswell >.>
22:24 <Stewie-arma> that's a lot of junk
22:24 <Vanhayes> too much pron
22:25 <spidey> nah
22:25 <spidey> only 1.32gb porn
22:25 <spidey> :D
22:25 <Stewie-arma> lol that's a lie
22:25 <spidey> isn't
22:25 <Stewie-arma> know you all of it is porn
22:25 <spidey> i can screenshot it
22:25 <Vanhayes> please dont screenshot your porn
22:25 <spidey> ;p
22:25 <Stewie-arma> many lulz
22:26 <Stewie-arma> if spidey were from the internets he would atleast have 50gb of porn (I say atleast for a reason)
22:26 <spidey> man
22:26 <Stewie-arma> lol
22:26 <Stewie-arma> lol
22:26 <spidey> why?
22:26 <spidey> how much porn can you possibly watch at once?
22:26 <Stewie-arma> cause 4chan has a lot of it
22:27 <Stewie-arma> actually I just cleared my folder out
22:28 <spidey> hayes
22:28 <spidey> i found a english version of fearless
22:29 <Vanhayes> I didnt mind the subtitles, usually the dubs are so bad it ruins the movie
22:29 <Stewie-arma> I haven't seen any version of fearless -.-
22:33 <spidey> http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/2221/12356258cl8.jpg D:
22:35 <Stewie-arma> phew I thought it was going to be a picture of your porn...
22:42 <GodTodd> hrmmm...how do i mount this mp3 player? ;/
22:42 <Stewie-arma> which one?
22:43 <GodTodd> LG UP3#
22:44 <GodTodd> window pops up to ask what to do, shows it as unmounted, i select open in new window and it does nothing else
22:44 <Vanhayes> now thats a name that rolls off the tongue
22:49 <epsy> mount -t mp3player /dev/null /mnt/whatever
22:49 <epsy> dunno :
22:49 <epsy> *:P
23:08 <tramshed> what?
23:09 <tramshed> normally I set stuff like that to act as a usb drive and call it good
23:15 <epsy> --- google.com ping statistics ---
23:16 <epsy> 4 packets transmitted, 1 received, 75% packet loss, time 3002ms
23:16 <epsy> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 5676.376/5676.376/5676.376/0.000 ms, pipe 4
23:17 <spidey> RUN FOREST RUN~
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23:18 <luke-jr|work> Vanhayes: in a little bit
23:18 <luke-jr|work> Vanhayes: gimme an hour?
23:18 <spidey> luke-jr|work, you wasn't invited
23:18 <luke-jr|work> spidey: liar
23:19 <spidey> i think i undercooked my mac&cheese noodles -.-
23:19 <luke-jr|work> haha
23:19 <spidey> i can cook mac&cheese faster than anyone :p
23:20 <epsy> #ping
23:20 <armabot> pong
23:20 <spidey> put the burner on hi, let it cook til the suds get close to overflowing, then turn it down to where it boils without overflowing :D
23:20 <spidey> 5minutes, max D:
23:21 <epsy> -_-
23:21 <spidey> epsy, ping
23:22 <epsy> eh?
23:22 <spidey> epsy, to late, the ball's done went out of bounds, you lose
23:23 <epsy> oh
23:24 <epsy> shame
23:28 <epsy> spidey, http://epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539/~epsy/screenshots/2007-08-13-233240.png
23:28 <epsy> can you see it ?
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23:41 <mkzelda> The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talkng snake to eat from a magical tree... yeah, makes perfect sense.
23:42 <Stewie-arma> to me it does...
23:43 <spidey> Vanhayes, luke-jr|work will i have enough time to watch eight legged freaks?
23:43 <spidey> before we start?
23:45 <luke-jr|work> spidey: wtf is that
23:45 <spidey> it's a movie you freak
23:45 <spidey> D:
23:46 <luke-jr|work> mkzelda: minus zombie and symbolically; replace 'telepathically tell him you accept him as your master' with 'serve Him'
23:47 <mkzelda> he came back from the dead
23:48 <mkzelda> and no symbolically?
23:48 <mkzelda> so you actually eat his flesh?
23:48 <mkzelda> he must've been enormous for everyone to eat his real flesh, and how'd they preserve it for so long?
23:48 <mkzelda> so you're a cannibal
23:49 <epsy> wrtlprnft, you there ?
23:52 <Stewie-arma> mkzelda: yes we actually eat his flesh...
23:55 <Stewie-arma> and in that sense we are cannibals because we are eating the flesh of a human, but it was offered to us from him so that he may live in us forever as we live in him forever
23:59 <|Sticky|> ffs not another one
23:59 <Stewie-arma> another what?
23:59 <|Sticky|> oh
23:59 * |Sticky| did read fully
23:59 <|Sticky|> didnt even
Log from 2007-08-14:
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00:00 <Stewie-arma> what?
00:00 <|Sticky|> i thought you were talking about catholic communion
00:00 <Stewie-arma> we were
00:00 <Stewie-arma> or I was
00:00 <|Sticky|> oh right
00:00 <|Sticky|> then
00:00 <|Sticky|> ffs not another one
00:00 <Stewie-arma> lol
00:00 <Stewie-arma> another what?
00:01 <|Sticky|> zelot
00:01 <|Sticky|> zealot even
00:01 <Stewie-arma> lol
00:02 <luke-jr|work> mkzelda: God doesn't die
00:02 <luke-jr|work> living flesh doesn't degrade or rot
00:02 <|Sticky|> altho i would count as a zealot too, just an atheist zealot
00:02 <Stewie-arma> btw sticky Zealot: The term Zealot, in Hebrew kanai means one who is jealous on behalf of God. As a word in English it means anyone who is overly zealous. Specific uses in popular culture also exist.
00:03 <luke-jr|work> mkzelda: blood type AB if you're interested
00:03 <Stewie-arma> so what I've I'm enthusiastic about god?
00:03 <|Sticky|> also: "A fanatically committed person."
00:04 <mkzelda> if he didnt die, then why the need for a resurrection?
00:04 <Stewie-arma> luke did you see the thing like a couple years ago where the priest was doubting if it was the flesh and then it really did turn into his flesh and blood
00:04 <luke-jr|work> He did die
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00:04 <luke-jr|work> Stewie-arma: that was like 8th century
00:04 <Stewie-arma> *cough*humans always die*cough*
00:04 <luke-jr|work> http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=zombie
00:04 <Stewie-arma> no there was another one
00:04 <mkzelda> he didnt die, he did die, but he didnt but he did
00:04 <mkzelda> i seee
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00:04 <|Sticky|> heh good to know catholic urban legends exist too
00:04 <luke-jr|work> zombie != 'came back from the dead'
00:05 <luke-jr|work> mkzelda: he did die, and then he rose
00:05 <luke-jr|work> ceasing to be dead
00:05 <mkzelda> but u said he didnt die
00:05 <luke-jr|work> |Sticky|: it's not a legend
00:05 <mkzelda> but he did
00:05 <mkzelda> but he didnt
00:05 <mkzelda> but he did
00:05 <luke-jr|work> |Sticky|: it's scientificially proven
00:05 <Stewie-arma> mkzelda humans always die
00:05 <Stewie-arma> but gods don't
00:05 <mkzelda> but they dont
00:05 <mkzelda> but they do
00:05 <Stewie-arma> he became human
00:05 <mkzelda> but they dont
00:05 <mkzelda> but they do
00:05 <mkzelda> whenever it helps my argument
00:05 <Stewie-arma> what do people not understand about he was human?
00:05 <mkzelda> but hes a god but hes human, but hes a god but hes human
00:06 <|Sticky|> scientificaly proven that when some guy in the 8th century eat some bread it turned into flesh?
00:06 <luke-jr|work> |Sticky|: yes
00:06 <Stewie-arma> lol
00:06 <|Sticky|> jokeing??
00:06 <luke-jr|work> because the flesh is still living today
00:06 <Stewie-arma> actually there was a more recent one and they did carbon testing on it
00:06 <mkzelda> whatever i need to say to benefit my arguement and make it impossible for anyone else in the conversation
00:06 <luke-jr|work> Stewie-arma: it was the same one, still living
00:06 <mkzelda> lol, so you believe in carbon testing when convenient
00:07 <Stewie-arma> actually mkzelda technology is used to prove christs existance
00:07 <mkzelda> when the carbon testing believes what u need it to, its accurate, but when it disproves you, its inaccurate
00:07 <|Sticky|> yeah but christians refuse to accept carbon dating all the time. see turing shrowd/dino bones
00:07 <luke-jr|work> carbon testing is vague, and only accurate within the timespan it was designed for
00:07 <mkzelda> yea, and ive had the same argument w/ luke about how u cant listen to that science
00:07 <mkzelda> then u use it when its convenient for you
00:07 <luke-jr|work> science is fine
00:07 <luke-jr|work> just not fiction that claims to be
00:07 <Stewie-arma> mkzelda I never said those didn't exist
00:07 <mkzelda> cause hes a god but hes not and hes dead but hes not and carbon dating is innaccurate but when its not
00:09 <Stewie-arma> *cough*Catholics aren't evangelicals*cough*
00:09 <|Sticky|> its like dawkins says, if science PROVED the existance of god tomorrow would they still hold to their line that science cant prove/disprove god, no they would be all over it
00:09 <|Sticky|> double standard
00:09 <luke-jr|work> |Sticky|: science can and does prove God
00:09 <mkzelda> lol
00:09 <Stewie-arma> well science can't prove the existance of god but I can prove the existance of god in human form
00:10 <|Sticky|> they will pull out science and pick and choose what suits them to justify there preconcieved conclusion
00:10 <mkzelda> roflmao
00:10 <|Sticky|> starting with the answer and working back is not science
00:10 <Stewie-arma> |Sticky|: what do politicians do? actually what does everyone in the world do?
00:10 <Stewie-arma> they pick and choose to what suits them to justify
00:11 <|Sticky|> Stewie-arma: can you be more specific with that question
00:11 <Stewie-arma> the whole world is corrupt
00:11 <Stewie-arma> that just proves human flaw
00:11 <luke-jr|work> Stewie-arma: except the Church
00:11 <Stewie-arma> no all humans are corrupt
00:11 <luke-jr|work> because she is not of the world
00:11 <Stewie-arma> oh woops
00:11 <mkzelda> lol
00:11 <Stewie-arma> you meant the church church not the people running it
00:11 <luke-jr|work> right
00:12 <Stewie-arma> yeah, the people running the church are corrupt but the church isn't
00:12 <Stewie-arma> lol
00:12 <|Sticky|> politicians maby but scientists rarely actively choose to ignore results as it dose not fit with their belifs, they try to modify their belif to fit the facts
00:12 <luke-jr|work> though we have some pretty holy bishops today, even if sometimes cowardly
00:12 <luke-jr|work> |Sticky|: only real scientists
00:12 <mkzelda> only the ones that support our believe are real
00:12 <Stewie-arma> lol zelda
00:12 <Stewie-arma> you're just trying to put words in our mouths
00:13 <luke-jr|work> according to wikipedia, there is a higher % of scientists who believe in God than non-scientists who do
00:13 <mkzelda> everyone is a bunch of emo fakers
00:13 <mkzelda> the should cut themselves
00:13 <|Sticky|> luke-jr|work: LIES UTTER LIES
00:13 <luke-jr|work> |Sticky|: probably
00:13 <Stewie-arma> actually a large amount of scientists are Christian
00:13 <luke-jr|work> actually, it was regarding evolutionism specifically
00:13 <|Sticky|> Stewie-arma: again a very distorted fact
00:13 <Stewie-arma> fine a large amount of scientists are registered as christian
00:14 <luke-jr|work> an evolutionist is by definition not Christian
00:14 <Stewie-arma> how does that work/
00:14 <Stewie-arma> because all christian means is that you believe christ is your savior
00:14 <luke-jr|work> since evolution is heresy
00:14 <Stewie-arma> or you are Christ like
00:14 <luke-jr|work> no
00:14 <luke-jr|work> Christian means you follow Christ's teachings
00:14 <|Sticky|> luke-jr|work is catholic++ if you belivein evo you are not christian
00:14 <luke-jr|work> and accept them all
00:14 <luke-jr|work> and serve Christ
00:15 <Stewie-arma> but where at all did christ say that the world did not evolve?
00:15 <luke-jr|work> when He created it
00:16 <|Sticky|> http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/steve/ a fantastic take on the whole "lots of scientists believe in god/evolution" argument
00:16 <Stewie-arma> alright luke... there is proof all around you that says that almost everything has evolved and your going to turn your back on all of it?
00:17 <|Sticky|> proving there are more scientists called steve that do belive in evo than total scientists who do not
00:17 <luke-jr|work> Stewie-arma: that's lies promulgated by the evolutionists
00:17 <luke-jr|work> in fact, the evidence demonstrates that evolutionism did not occur
00:18 <mkzelda> Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able, and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God.
00:18 <luke-jr|work> and could not have
00:18 <|Sticky|> so Stewie-arma are you a christian person that belives in evolution?
00:18 <Stewie-arma> yeah...
00:18 <|Sticky|> well done
00:18 <Stewie-arma> actually according to luke I'm not christian
00:19 <Stewie-arma> because I can not turn my head from the blatant truth that is right infront of me
00:19 <luke-jr|work> the world will mislead you if you let it
00:19 <|Sticky|> i almost can agree with your stand point Stewie-arma
00:19 <|Sticky|> do you oppose teaching creation in schools??
00:19 <luke-jr|work> Stewie-arma: you have seen a dog change into a cat?
00:19 <luke-jr|work> if so, get your eyes checked ;)
00:19 <|Sticky|> luke-jr|work: ffs dont bring that tired argument out
00:19 <Stewie-arma> luke that's not evolution that's transfiguration
00:20 <|Sticky|> luke-jr|work: have you ever seen jesus walk on water?
00:20 <luke-jr|work> Stewie-arma: evolutionism is one kind changing into another
00:20 <|Sticky|> if not why would you belive it?
00:20 <Stewie-arma> lol
00:20 <|Sticky|> if you havent seen it
00:20 <|Sticky|> if you havent seen it it cant be true
00:20 <Stewie-arma> because god tells us to sticky
00:21 <|Sticky|> if you havent seen it it cant be true
00:21 <Stewie-arma> Sticky then you're saying all of history isn't true
00:21 <Stewie-arma> except for what is happening right now
00:21 <luke-jr|work> |Sticky|: I'm not the one claiming I've seen evolution
00:21 <Stewie-arma> neither am I
00:21 <Stewie-arma> I'm claiming that there is tons of proof that evolution has happened
00:22 * |Sticky| is being sacastic about lukes have you seen a cat change argument
00:22 <luke-jr|work> there isn't
00:22 <luke-jr|work> there is no proof whatsoever
00:22 <luke-jr|work> and tons of proof that it didn't
00:22 <mkzelda> u can prove it in 3 days w/ bacteria
00:22 <luke-jr|work> nope
00:22 <mkzelda> yep
00:22 <luke-jr|work> the bacteria will become non-bacteria?
00:22 <|Sticky|> mkzelda: there were some issues with that experiment
00:23 <mkzelda> u can make it resistant to penicillen, it becomes a new strain
00:23 <mkzelda> im just sayin, if u dont want to wait thousands of years
00:23 <luke-jr|work> that's a minor change in the creature
00:23 <luke-jr|work> it does not become a new creature
00:23 <mkzelda> minor?
00:23 <luke-jr|work> it is still a bacteria
00:24 <Stewie-arma> evolution:development: a process in which something passes by degrees to a different stage
00:24 <mkzelda> and its still evolved to a resistent form
00:24 <|Sticky|> but mostly christians generaly turn a blind eye to statistical probability, the chances of life occuring are almost zero, however with billions of worlds to try ultimately it will hapen on one of them, just so happend that world was earth
00:24 <luke-jr|work> it built up resistance
00:24 <luke-jr|work> it didn't become a new type of creature
00:24 <Stewie-arma> luke evolution isn't it becoming a different type of creature
00:25 <Stewie-arma> it's that creature changing to defend itself from it's suroundings
00:25 <luke-jr|work> yes it is
00:25 <Stewie-arma> what your talking about is again, tranfiguration
00:25 <luke-jr|work> evolutionists teach that chemicals became bacteria that became animals and so on
00:26 <|Sticky|> yeah this is also the leap that christians make to try to confuse the argument, they try to claim mutations must be large and useful, not true
00:26 <mkzelda> magic is a much better explanation
00:26 <tramshed> evolution is real, get over it.
00:26 <Stewie-arma> mkzelda magic is yet again (according to the Catholic Church) claimed to be blasphemy
00:26 <luke-jr|work> it's not
00:27 <Stewie-arma> and impossible
00:27 <tramshed> heaping mounds of evidence for it
00:27 <luke-jr|work> Stewie-arma: magic is neither blasphemy nor impossible
00:27 <tramshed> the jews practice magic
00:27 <luke-jr|work> witchcraft is demonic and evil
00:27 <|Sticky|> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdocQHsPCNM recommended viewing
00:28 <Stewie-arma> dev/null christians basically are jews with an add on, we just believe that our savior has already come.
00:28 <tramshed> somewhat
00:28 <tramshed> same god, different ideals
00:28 <luke-jr|work> nope
00:28 <luke-jr|work> better understanding maybe
00:29 <tramshed> I wouldnt say the christians have a better understanding
00:29 <tramshed> christians are afraid to even say thier gods name
00:29 <tramshed> and with all the splintering that happened there, if anything they are more confused than when they started
00:29 <luke-jr|work> no, we just treat it with respect
00:29 <|Sticky|> i actualy dont have too much problem with christians untill they insist the teaching of evolution in science class and as shown in america atheists are almost barred from high public office
00:29 <luke-jr|work> there is no splintering in the Christian Church
00:30 <tramshed> so you are telling me the catholics, babtists, mormons, protestents, etc etc all agree
00:30 <tramshed> baptists rather
00:30 <luke-jr|work> no
00:30 <tramshed> then it is splintered
00:30 <luke-jr|work> I'm telling you that Baptists, Mormons, Protest-ants are not Christian
00:30 <tramshed> they are all christians
00:30 <luke-jr|work> nope
00:30 <luke-jr|work> they are heretics
00:30 <tramshed> they believe in christ
00:30 <luke-jr|work> they deny the true Christ
00:31 <luke-jr|work> they believe in a demon claiming to be Him
00:31 <tramshed> I personally think all religion was just a method of social control
00:31 <|Sticky|> with luke-jr|work you have to concede his defenition of christian
00:31 <luke-jr|work> then you are wrong
00:31 <tramshed> which has become rather outmoded nowadays
00:31 <tramshed> Im fine with being wrong, but supply me some logic proving I am wrong
00:31 <tramshed> thats always been my issue with religion of any sort
00:31 <tramshed> it says im wrong but wont explain itself
00:32 <tramshed> Im fine with changing my mind if a reasonable enough argument was given
00:32 <|Sticky|> tramshed: its a way of justifying a world that we couldnt explain in a comforting way
00:32 <tramshed> but most arguments are at the basest level "Because God Said So"
00:32 <Stewie-arma> dev/null there is tons of proof to say that christ was human and on earth and that he was god
00:32 <luke-jr|work> tramshed: it's not a matter of your mind; it's a matter of reality
00:32 <tramshed> there is no proof that he was a god
00:32 <tramshed> reality doesnt say that the christian god is the right god
00:32 <Stewie-arma> let me find some news articles, if I can find them
00:33 <tramshed> for one, who is to say which religion is the right one
00:33 <tramshed> christianity is a relatively new religion
00:33 <|Sticky|> Stewie-arma: there is reasonable evidence that jesus existed as to his divinity that is hardly provable
00:33 <tramshed> who says the druids didnt have it right?
00:33 <luke-jr|work> tramshed: yes it does
00:33 <tramshed> how so?
00:33 <tramshed> give me proof
00:33 <tramshed> religion can never back up its claims
00:33 <luke-jr|work> will you bother reading it?
00:34 <|Sticky|> luke-jr|work: i will
00:34 <tramshed> not once has it ever definitively proven itself besides with self referencing rhetoric
00:34 <luke-jr|work> http://www.newadvent.org/summa/
00:34 <tramshed> any religion
00:35 <|Sticky|> dear lord i didnt count on this much
00:35 <luke-jr|work> lol
00:35 <luke-jr|work> see, it's worked already
00:35 <luke-jr|work> you admit the Lord's existence
00:35 <|Sticky|> heh filibuster the argument
00:36 <tramshed> so far all im reading is philosophy
00:36 <tramshed> which is all fine and dandy, but hardly proof
00:36 <luke-jr|work> logic
00:36 <tramshed> its not actual logic though
00:37 <tramshed> the problem with it is it is assuming that SOME type of god exists
00:37 <luke-jr|work> sure it is
00:37 <luke-jr|work> tramshed: no, that's hte first proof
00:37 <tramshed> its just trying to prove which one it is
00:37 <luke-jr|work> go in order
00:37 <tramshed> I did
00:37 <tramshed> and it didnt prove anything
00:37 <tramshed> it doesnt prove he exists, it just assumes he does
00:38 <tramshed> We cannot know what God is, but only what He is not. So to study Him, we study what He has not
00:38 <tramshed> thats the first line
00:38 <tramshed> already assuming that god exists
00:38 <|Sticky|> tramshed: where you reading this???
00:38 <tramshed> the link he posted
00:39 <luke-jr|work> http://www.newadvent.org/summa/1002.htm
00:39 <tramshed> that logic is akin to me assuming that all people should really be green, and then deducting the reasons why and the exact shade required by the natural universe
00:40 <tramshed> that chapter just says god exists because its obvious that he has to exist
00:40 <tramshed> doesnt say why
00:40 <luke-jr|work> read it
00:40 <tramshed> I am
00:40 <tramshed> and its still just self referencing and assuming god exists
00:40 <tramshed> did you read it?
00:41 <tramshed> To know that God exists in a general and confused way is implanted in us by nature, inasmuch as God is man's beatitude. For man naturally desires happiness, and what is naturally desired by man must be naturally known to him. This, however, is not to know absolutely that God exists; just as to know that someone is approaching is not the same as to know that Peter is approaching, even though it is Peter who is approaching; for many
00:41 <tramshed> there are who imagine that man's perfect good which is happiness, consists in riches, and others in pleasures, and others in something else.
00:41 <|Sticky|> isnt that the ontological argument: 1: people are green. 2: to not be green means you are not a person, therefore all people are green
00:41 <tramshed> they are saying its instinct to believe in god
00:42 <luke-jr|work> tramshed: he proves that it is self-evident first
00:42 <tramshed> No he doesnt
00:42 <tramshed> he states its self evident
00:42 <tramshed> he doesnt prove it
00:43 <tramshed> he tries to play on words to make it seem like he proves it, but it isnt actually proven anywhere in his statements
00:43 <Stewie-arma> I'm glad I started this, I'll be away for awhile (going to Catholic Youth Group) I'll check the logs hoping to see some action ;P
00:44 <|Sticky|> Stewie-arma: how old are you??
00:47 <|Sticky|> Stewie-arma: if you are quite young just never let yourself be alone with the preists, bad things happen
00:47 <|Sticky|> another fantastic example of the morality of the church
00:48 <luke-jr|work> nonsense
00:48 <Stewie-arma> btw I'm 15
00:48 <|Sticky|> i am glad to see at your age that there are catholics that believe in evolution, just dont let all those others feed you with the lies
00:48 <|Sticky|> luke-jr|work: you denying that the church coverd up child abuse??
00:48 <luke-jr|work> Stewie-arma: well at least you have time to debrainwash yourself
00:48 <Stewie-arma> and btw it's only 2% of the priests that are doing these things (or that have been reported doing them)
00:49 <luke-jr|work> |Sticky|: it hasn't
00:49 <|Sticky|> 2%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
00:49 <|Sticky|> you think thats small??
00:49 <Stewie-arma> same percent as every other religion doing these things
00:49 <|Sticky|> WTF
00:49 <luke-jr|work> Stewie-arma: I have yet to see a single one Catholic priest; the "priests" that do that are really queers and not even validly ordained
00:49 <Stewie-arma> actually same percent as pretty muc hevery religion
00:49 <|Sticky|> so 2% is acceptable?
00:49 <Stewie-arma> no it isn't sticky
00:50 <|Sticky|> and its also fine for the vatican to cover it up when its reported
00:50 <Stewie-arma> they don't cover it up, they hide it from the press, they don't deny them
00:50 <luke-jr|work> |Sticky|: the Vatican hasn't been Catholic in years since the Freemasons took over Rome
00:50 <|Sticky|> im shocked luke-jr|work denies the vatican coverd it up
00:51 <tramshed> all I have to say about christianity is this, did god put fossils there to throw us off his trail?
00:51 <|Sticky|> tramshed: again a bad argument to make
00:51 <|Sticky|> they are there to "test us"
00:51 <tramshed> but one that needs to be addressed
00:52 <mkzelda> [2007-08-13 18:53:59] <luke-jr|work> Stewie-arma: well at least you have time to debrainwash yourself
00:52 <Stewie-arma> lol
00:52 <mkzelda> lol
00:52 <tramshed> I would think the mere non-existant proof of his existance would be a pretty good test
00:52 <tramshed> but hey, im just a mortal
00:52 <tramshed> I didnt make people eat thier own poo
00:52 <tramshed> or threaten to cut a baby in half
00:52 <tramshed> or tell my followers to commit genocide
00:52 <|Sticky|> been reading the old testiment?
00:52 <tramshed> be cool if I could make those claims though
00:53 <mkzelda> man i love how i made a comment, left for 35 mins come back and its still going on
00:53 <tramshed> I AM YOUR IMMORTAL ASSHOLE!
00:53 <|Sticky|> dont forget moses inciting mass rape
00:53 <tramshed> anyways
00:53 <mkzelda> That was some awesome trolling
00:53 <tramshed> I was just given 1300 bucks to make myself a computer
00:53 <Stewie-arma> actually zelda it was dropped but I brought it back up
00:53 <tramshed> so ima disappear for a while
00:53 <mkzelda> what approach u takin tramshed?
00:53 <|Sticky|> from the north?
00:53 <tramshed> from the rear with no lube
00:54 <mkzelda> nice
00:54 <tramshed> im going for a nice overall system
00:54 <tramshed> server mainly
00:54 <|Sticky|> i built a bit of a beast for about $1100-$1200
00:54 <tramshed> but with a good desktop aspect to it
00:54 <tramshed> I did some surfing before, and I can make a damn fine system with1300
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00:54 <mkzelda> yeah i built my machine new for $1250
00:54 <|Sticky|> depending on curency conversion
00:55 <Zacariaz> so, what is happening to the server?
00:55 <mkzelda> its getting dated now
00:55 <mkzelda> Sysinfo for 'fx-53': Linux 2.6.19-reiser4-r7 running KDE 3.5.7, CPU: AMD Athlon 64 FX-53 at 2400 MHz (4823 bogomips), HD: 668/1209GB, RAM: 1682/2012MB, 97 proc's, 5.1d up
00:55 <|Sticky|> the q6600 is a bargin nowerdays
00:55 <|Sticky|> and trust me its FAST
00:56 <tramshed> im going with amd myself
00:56 <|Sticky|> which one
00:56 <Zacariaz> dont mean to intrude but why athlon?
00:56 <tramshed> 6000
00:56 <tramshed> Zacariaz, the price vs speed is the best deal
00:56 <Zacariaz> sor AMD
00:57 <tramshed> I know intel is top of the pile right now, but the price to get to the top is kinda rough
00:57 <mkzelda> geforce 7800gt, 2gb ram, 2x160gb raptors, 2x500gb, fx-53, asus a8n32-sli deluxe, a year or two ago
00:57 <mkzelda> for $1250
00:57 <tramshed> thats pretty similar to what im making
00:57 <tramshed> cept I gotta buy a case/monitor/etc too
00:57 <Zacariaz> k, id rather pay alittle more for something that does involve spontain combustion
00:57 <tramshed> because I have nothing
00:58 <tramshed> intels run hotter than pretty much anything in my experience
00:58 <tramshed> this thing hits over 70c compiling
00:58 <|Sticky|> yeah the 6000+ has far better price/performance than most core2duos
00:58 <mkzelda> yeah my p4s are the hottest computers ive ever owned
00:58 <mkzelda> heats a whole room
00:58 <Zacariaz> ill be right back with a link to a video
00:58 <tramshed> plus ive never had an amd give me kernel panics due to smp
00:58 <mkzelda> cool n quiet works well even in linux
00:58 <|Sticky|> core2duo e4300 has better price/performance
00:58 <tramshed> I could show you videos of intels exploding myself
00:59 <tramshed> the e4300 is nowhere near the performance of the 6000 though
00:59 <tramshed> i can get a 6000 for 160
00:59 <mkzelda> i try not to sound like a fanboi, like u said, i try to go for best price/performance
00:59 <|Sticky|> tramshed: true
00:59 <tramshed> Im not a fanboy, im just going with my choice right now
00:59 <mkzelda> if i had unlimited cash i'd be getting some intel by todays times
00:59 <tramshed> yeah
01:00 <tramshed> if I had the cash id buy intel right now myself
01:00 <tramshed> they are currently the best
01:00 <mkzelda> tho im anxious for amd's new approach of specialized computing
01:00 <tramshed> one thing I wont sway onthough is my ati/nvidia preference though
01:00 <|Sticky|> at the high end there is not too much between the opterons and xeons
01:00 <mkzelda> u prefer ati?
01:00 <tramshed> ati has disgusted me with thier consistently shitty drivers
01:00 <tramshed> hell no
01:00 <|Sticky|> opterons have far better memory access
01:00 <mkzelda> heh
01:00 <tramshed> nvidia > *
01:00 <mkzelda> same here, i wont leave nvidia either
01:00 <tramshed> opterons have pwned since the day they came out
01:01 <mkzelda> linux support is great
01:01 <mkzelda> ive owned enuf ati
01:01 <Zacariaz> pretty old, but shows my oppinion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7XosLKUJEE
01:01 <mkzelda> ive got 4 or 5 laying around
01:01 <mkzelda> its sad cause they had some fantastic hardware
01:01 <mkzelda> just cant fuckin support it
01:01 <mkzelda> asus is just as bad w/ their mobos
01:01 <|Sticky|> at work im getting a high end machine (as in $3-4k) and its a bit of a toss up between xeon and opteron
01:01 <mkzelda> make great hardware, terrible bios
01:02 <mkzelda> i'd go w/ a sun t-2000 if i had the funds
01:02 <|Sticky|> mkzelda: you are so right, my new mobo is asus, if you plug in the usb header the dvd drive turns off
01:02 <tramshed> haha
01:02 <mkzelda> hahaha
01:02 <tramshed> asus used to be good
01:02 <mkzelda> yep
01:02 <tramshed> whos the mobo kings nowadays
01:02 <mkzelda> they
01:02 <tramshed> Iremember when soyo pwned all
01:03 <|Sticky|> its cos of the jmicron stuff
01:03 <mkzelda> tehy're still pretty far ahead of the game w/ hardware, they just dont support long enuf
01:03 <mkzelda> they stop making new bios updates after 1 year tops
01:03 <mkzelda> and they dont offer the updates for older hardware after like 2 years
01:03 <mkzelda> and i emailed them one time and told them that it took more effort to remove the driver from their site than to just leave it
01:04 <|Sticky|> if you go with an intel board the intel mobos are rock solid
01:04 <mkzelda> and they responded that every product has a life and mine is too old and i need to buy new hardware
01:04 <mkzelda> yep, they just dont have a lot of tweaking potential
01:04 <Zacariaz> well, im off to see if ddl is up and running
01:05 <tramshed> I used to get epox for my cheapies before
01:05 <tramshed> they were pretty reliable mobos
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01:05 <mkzelda> i have an old 233mhz amd k6, and tho i cant think of hte brand of motherboard, i can STILL go to the manufacturer website and dl the bios updates
01:05 <mkzelda> hrm, thats one of the few mobo brands i had caps go bad in
01:05 <tramshed> nothing special in the performance dep. but lots of configuration abilities for overclocking and the likes
01:06 <mkzelda> they'd burn up, they smelled of *that smell*
01:06 <mkzelda> run for about 1 or 2 mins and u smell it
01:06 <tramshed> odd
01:06 <mkzelda> and then get reallllllly hot
01:06 <tramshed> never had that
01:06 <|Sticky|> considered a e6750, not far off in price/performance and has a bit more power
01:06 <tramshed> I have a friend who can attest to mine running for two weeks with the bios being shorted out with a beer bottle cap
01:06 <mkzelda> the reason i actually bought the mobo and ram combo i have
01:06 <tramshed> or the week it ran with the ram half hanging out
01:07 <luke-jr|work> |Sticky|: I deny the Church covered it up, not the anti-Christian Vatican
01:07 <mkzelda> was corsair and asus got in cahoots to build them specifically for each other
01:07 <luke-jr|work> tramshed: the fossils are demonstratably about 4000 years old
01:07 <tramshed> no they arnte
01:07 <mkzelda> so tho the standard on these sock 940 was ddr 4200, this ram is 4500
01:07 <tramshed> carbon dating puts them at way past that
01:07 <luke-jr|work> carbon dating is flawed
01:07 <mkzelda> see this is where he says u cant trust carbon dating
01:07 <tramshed> are you telling me the laws of physics are lying in just that instance
01:07 <luke-jr|work> built upon false premises
01:07 <mkzelda> tho earlier he was an advocate of it
01:07 <tramshed> no it isnt
01:08 <mkzelda> when it supported his argument
01:08 <tramshed> its built upon radiactive decay
01:08 <mkzelda> this is why you cant argue with him
01:08 <luke-jr|work> tramshed: it assumes radioactive decay is at a fixed rate
01:08 <mkzelda> he flip flops on everything, as its convenient
01:08 <tramshed> radioactive decay is a proven fact
01:08 <mkzelda> has cake and eats it to
01:08 <|Sticky|> luke-jr|work: i cant decide do i love you for hating things like the vatican and other "christians" or hate you for making their views look as harmless as barny the dinosaw
01:08 <tramshed> luke-jr|work, thats because it is
01:08 <luke-jr|work> tramshed: prove it
01:08 <|Sticky|> altho barny never existed
01:08 <tramshed> ever heard of an atomic clock?
01:08 <tramshed> or perhaps a nuclear reactor
01:09 <luke-jr|work> tramshed: yes, it hasn't existed even 100 years ago
01:09 <mkzelda> proof doesnt help those that believe in magic but call it something else
01:09 <tramshed> neither have computers
01:09 <tramshed> you telling me they are built upon false pretenses as well?
01:09 <tramshed> nuclear physics is very well understood
01:10 <|Sticky|> tramshed: their anti carbon dataing argument is that they dont know how much carbon the creature started out with
01:10 <tramshed> and much of its base assumptions have been proven repeatedly in particle accelerators
01:10 <tramshed> it doesnt matter how much
01:10 <|Sticky|> tramshed: yes it does
01:10 <tramshed> a single molecule or billions, it still decays at the same rate
01:10 <|Sticky|> tramshed: im not sure you understand carbon dating
01:11 <|Sticky|> you calculate how much carbo there was to start, then how much there is now, then figure out how long it would take to day that much
01:11 <|Sticky|> decay not day
01:11 <tramshed> I know, but the error margin is not that large
01:12 <tramshed> its not in the order of all this decayed in 40,000 years
01:12 <|Sticky|> but their argument is that you dont know the start point
01:12 <tramshed> you can guess close enough to get a ballpark range
01:12 <tramshed> which is why they are usually +- a few million years
01:12 <|Sticky|> exactly, and thats why you have a SMALL error
01:13 <tramshed> its not an error on the magnitude of hundreds of millions to billions of years
01:13 <mkzelda> 1 billion - 1 million
01:13 <|Sticky|> but they claim that the atmosphear was different, plants were different and so you cant know for sure
01:13 <mkzelda> 999 million is still more than 4000 years
01:13 <tramshed> rock wasnt different
01:14 <tramshed> and the rock we have fossils in has been reliably dated
01:14 <|Sticky|> thats what they claim
01:14 <tramshed> so unless the fossils somehow found thier way into solid bedrock within the last 40,000 years without any trace of how they did it, its still a flawed argument
01:14 <|Sticky|> but again that makes the assumption that the rock is also billions of years old so you are taking the baseline from an assumption that it is old
01:15 <tramshed> then you have the whole fact that they have decalcified to the point that there is no bone left
01:15 <|Sticky|> just to clarify i dont belive this crap i just read/listen to the opposing arguments so i understand their position
01:15 <tramshed> they are assuming every repeatedly proven of basic science is false, therefore thier answer is correct
01:16 * tramshed wanders off to make his computer
01:16 <mkzelda> so why is it that people can scrutinize science so closely yet when it comes to a book about a jewish zombie promising eternal life for eating his flesh if u accept him as your master so he can remove your evil u had nothing to do with cause some woman talked to a snake who convinced her to eat from a magical tree
01:16 <mkzelda> its so easy to believe
01:17 <tramshed> haha
01:17 <mkzelda> i just dont get that part
01:17 <tramshed> its not only those flavors of religions I disbelieve though
01:17 <tramshed> I dont find any of them to have truly believeable tenets
01:17 <mkzelda> i just think all reglions are a product of man and inherently flawed
01:17 <tramshed> Ive always looked at them as a form of ancient social control
01:18 <tramshed> wrote a paper for a guy once on it, he got an A
01:18 <mkzelda> a form of control for the masses to help limit choas
01:18 <|Sticky|> and also in your "one nation under god" some of the founding farthers thought the bible was full of crap
01:18 <tramshed> gave me 100 bucks for it too
01:18 <mkzelda> cause if nobody had answers to the questions that dont have answers, ppl would be a lot crazier
01:18 <|Sticky|> read Thomas Paine's(founding farther) age of reason
01:18 <mkzelda> just seems that those that are able to think for themselves do
01:19 <mkzelda> im not disproving anyone, i like to pick bits and pieces from all of them as a *guide* for my own life
01:20 <mkzelda> but im positive theres no undeniable proof for any of them
01:20 <mkzelda> or the answers would come easily
01:20 <mkzelda> and everyone would believe
01:20 <mkzelda> its the same concept as why we experience pain, to appreciate pleasure
01:20 <mkzelda> if it was undeniable there'd be no question
01:20 <|Sticky|> you dont need to disprove anything, lack of proof is enough to not believe something
01:21 <mkzelda> and then, what purpose would believing in god serve if u already had proof there was one, your faith would be insincere
01:23 <|Sticky|> got to understand some of the mentality, the need to be told what to do and be guided. Hence the argument that many make that they are not moral because they are intrinsicly good people, they are moral be cause they are told/forced to be
01:23 <mkzelda> i cant believe i trolled this 100 mins ago
01:24 * |Sticky| is an amature religion abuser
01:24 <|Sticky|> subscribe to the dawkins mailing list its great
01:26 <mkzelda> the origin of species was darwins racist way of saying blacks are less evolved
01:27 <mkzelda> im just trolling again, im out
01:27 <|Sticky|> riiiiiiggghhhhhhttttt
01:28 <mkzelda> i have a coworker who believes that wholeheartedly
01:28 * |Sticky| has a jesus was black t-shirt
01:28 <mkzelda> nice i have a Nubian Beauty shirt
01:28 <mkzelda> and im a white boy w/ an afro so its a good bonus
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02:07 <spidey> #last --from spidey --with http
02:07 <armabot> spidey: [22:38:15] <spidey> http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/2221/12356258cl8.jpg D:
02:11 <tramshed> and done
02:11 <tramshed> 1300 buckslater
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03:23 <DrJoeTron> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hxx2KcPWWZg
03:27 <xFlex> lol
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03:53 <Vanhayes> spidey: did you ever start a civ game
03:53 <spidey> no
03:56 <Vanhayes> where did luke go?
03:56 <spidey> to play with himself
03:57 <Vanhayes> heh civ, or just himself?
03:57 <spidey> just himself
04:00 <GodTodd> he probably went to pray for all of our heretical souls
04:00 <spidey> lol
04:00 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, ping
04:00 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, GodTodd , vanhayes maybe? wanna finish that game from last night?
04:01 <Vanhayes> I doubt he would bother praying for any of us, he might be christian but he is still luke
04:01 <spidey> i need a excuse to do homework
04:01 <Vanhayes> im up for it
04:09 <Lucifer_arma> in a bit
04:10 <Lucifer_arma> the server's running with no turn timeout. I wonder if that forced it to crank over a few turns
04:10 <Lucifer_arma> I'd kinda like to start a new game if vanhayes is going to play. :) Otherwise we're going to wind up conquering him!
04:13 <GodTodd> conquer me baby!
04:22 <spidey> actually
04:22 <spidey> hayes taking egypt would help my plans
04:22 <spidey> :D
04:23 <spidey> maybe
04:23 <spidey> i've got 2 types of AA guns, city walls, and coastal defense in every city
04:24 <spidey> what do you think my plans are for that game? :D
04:27 <spidey> my plans where, to declare war on luci and todd, then invade todd from the south with about 30MI and 25~ howitzers and some planes/missiles, and focus defense on my mainland to hold luci off :D
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04:27 <spidey> but i'm up for starting a new game now :p
04:28 <spidey> 200ish units in 16 cities, i would have held out forever D:
04:28 <spidey> atleast i think it was 200 O.o
04:48 <Lucifer_arma> heh, I saw your defenses :)
04:48 <Lucifer_arma> did you discover nuclear fission yet?
04:48 * Lucifer_arma did
04:49 <Lucifer_arma> I was about to offer an alliance, and if you didn't take it, I was going to invade you and forget about egypt
04:49 <Lucifer_arma> still, I'd rather start a new game. That's a good game for us to fight it out, but I didn't really like my starting position at all
04:50 <Lucifer_arma> turned out to be a nice place, but it took forever. Had you guys not given me techs, I'd have been fucked
04:50 <Lucifer_arma> and it took a long time to develop my american cities
04:51 <Lucifer_arma> I was considering building a ton of settlers in my newly conquered cities and mass settling the rest of north america with them
04:53 <Lucifer_arma> we might try with foodbox 7 and production modifier 7 and see how that speeds up the game
04:54 <Lucifer_arma> also lower starting techs
04:54 <Lucifer_arma> civs that start with explosives have a *huge* advantage over civs that don't
04:55 <Lucifer_arma> considering that you start with research at 0 and all
04:55 <Lucifer_arma> and we need to make sure the ais are suitably difficult :)
05:04 <spidey> heh
05:04 <spidey> hayes bailed on us :(
05:06 <spidey> i don't think you would have been able to take me :p
05:07 <spidey> the only thing that you could have hit me with that would do any *real* damage would be howitzers
05:07 <spidey> but i was about to have my cities surrounded with forted+forts MI
05:08 <spidey> haha
05:08 <spidey> that reminded me of something, way back when i was playing luke and his friend
05:09 <spidey> i forted fantastics on mountains with forts
05:09 <spidey> and he asked in irc "how do you beat a fanatic?"
05:09 <spidey> s/fantastics/fanatics
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> heh
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> too bad hayes bailed
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> wait, he didn't bail, it says connection timed out
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I remember luke doing that
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> to be honest, if it comes to a straight fight, I think you'd win
05:48 <spidey> maybe
05:48 <spidey> most i could do right now is run you out of offensive units
05:48 <spidey> i'm well dug in
05:48 <spidey> but i can only afford to run a offense against todd
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> we might try this game some more and see, but here's my thinking
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> when it comes to taking a turn, you tend to take faster turns than I do, which means I'll lose units faster in general
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> having not really warred against humans in this game, I haven't worked out how to handle the mechanics of it
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> I can look at my production and say "this should beat him", and come up with a winning strategy, but I don't know that I would execute the winning strategy quickly enough
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> it's the way every turn happens simultaneously.
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> can't count sneak attacks against luke as experience here, because the point is to take so many cities he can't put up a credible defense
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> and of course to knock out his capital and split him
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> my capital's not terribly well-protected, but I was considering moving it anyway
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> it could be well-protected, but there's a lot of naval access, and to really protect it I'd want several rings of forts around it with a bunch of MI in each one
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> and a bunch of auto-attack bombers in the city itself, and airfields and shit
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> pretty elaborate, but for an empire as big as mine is in this game, reasonable. Splitting me would be disaster to me
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, no freeciv for me tonight after all, I'm too sleepy
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> and I've got to be up at 8am to take my youngest to the doctor for a shot
06:30 <mkzelda> rabies?
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06:47 <DrJoeTron> #serverinfo cage
06:47 <armabot> DrJoeTron: The Lobster Cage: No online players.
06:47 <DrJoeTron> #serverinfo shrunk
06:47 <armabot> DrJoeTron: Shrunkland in 2.8.2: No online players.
06:47 <DrJoeTron> well i sure killed those servers
06:50 <GodTodd> fucker
06:50 <DrJoeTron> yeah i know
06:51 * GodTodd gambled with his education and won :)
07:04 <spidey> lol
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10:24 <beta_usa> hi
10:26 <philippeqc> hello
10:27 <eddiefantastic> hi
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11:46 <beta_usa> Hm...
11:47 <beta_usa> I used the pigsty patch on the sources, i built my server, everything seems to be ok.
11:47 <beta_usa> I tried the map "CopyFromHereForCTF", and I have two forteress bases but no flag.
11:47 <beta_usa> I can't understand why.
11:48 <beta_usa> Plus the forteress doesn't spam and really act like forteress (they disapear if I go in the enemy forteress).
11:54 <eddiefantastic> beta_usa: did you copy the pig map and the pig dtd into the server repository?
11:55 <eddiefantastic> beta_usa: they are different to the client ones due to the hacks
11:56 <eddiefantastic> beta_usa: only the server know's what a flag is, the client doesn't need to
11:56 <beta_usa> I have a xml and a dtd in the Your_Mom directory (Your_Mom/clever and Your_Mom/dtd).
11:56 <beta_usa> i only patched my server actually.
11:56 <beta_usa> This should work, right ?
11:56 * beta_usa is confused
11:56 <eddiefantastic> and the does the map you point to contain a "falg" or not
11:57 <eddiefantastic> ?
11:57 <eddiefantastic> *flag
11:57 <beta_usa> Yes flags and forteress
11:57 <beta_usa> <Zone effect="flag">
11:57 <beta_usa> 2 flags and 2 bases, but i can only see the bases when playing.
11:58 <eddiefantastic> and you used the ctf settings right?
11:58 <beta_usa> I guess
11:59 <beta_usa> I used the pigsty-060720.patch btw.
11:59 <eddiefantastic> you need to INCLUDE pig_cfg.cfg
11:59 <eddiefantastic> or whatever it's called
11:59 <eddiefantastic> *pig_ctf.cfg
11:59 <beta_usa> Oh ok, i'll try this.
11:59 <beta_usa> Thank you eddiefantastic.
11:59 <eddiefantastic> np
12:00 <beta_usa> I have to eat now, i'll try after.
12:00 * beta_usa &
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13:18 <epsy> hi
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13:29 <P4> does anyone know why after running 'php serverlist.php' from the console i get 'Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in F:\www_root\arma\connect.php on line 8'?
13:50 <epsy> you maybe need to install mysql and the php plugins -_-
13:50 <epsy> P4,
13:51 <P4> i got it epsy
13:51 <P4> epsy: http://p4ziom.dyndns.tv/phpinfo.php
13:51 <epsy> your server is running wongblows ? wtf
13:51 <beta_usa> F:\www_root
13:52 <P4> yea... it's not related isuue :P
13:52 <epsy> but...wtf ????
13:53 <P4> dunno... maybe mysql module isn't loaded... but i use mysql properly in my CMSes
13:54 <tramshed> balls.
13:54 <epsy> cubes.
13:54 <tramshed> doctors.
13:56 <epsy> asylum.
13:57 <epsy> haha xD
13:57 <epsy> gtg
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14:54 <kidanger> #lastseen hawk
14:54 <armabot> kidanger: hudsonhawk has last been seen on Stormcrow's Tower 9 hours 28 minutes ago.
15:31 <tramshed> #lastseen pirate
15:31 <armabot> tramshed: Pirate has last been seen on G-Land 1 day 6 hours 45 minutes ago.
15:31 <tramshed> hmmm.
15:32 <tramshed> #lastseen grep
15:32 <armabot> tramshed: timed out
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15:55 <tramshed> fuck all the servers with people are lame right now
15:56 <tramshed> cant find one with less than 10 rubber
15:56 <tramshed> its stupid, not even tron anymore
15:57 <beta_usa> wild forteress doesn't have more than 10 rubber
15:58 <tramshed> fortress isnt really tron though
15:58 <tramshed> I want some good ole lightcycle deathmatches
15:58 <tramshed> I dont wanna play king of the hill
15:58 <tramshed> or ping pong
15:59 <tramshed> its good that trons gettin added to, but what the hell is with all these high rubber fuckers
15:59 <tramshed> they afraid to learn how to not die
16:00 <beta_usa> If people love it, it's their choice, i don't think it's a good idea to blame them.
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17:26 <eddiefantastic> tramshed: I put up a server like you described, I miss them too. Nobody came.
17:31 <eddiefantastic> tramshed: That is nobody stayed for long, the fortress players went back to fortress, the high rubber players went back to their wall hugging
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17:42 <Lucifer_arma> tramshed: I like to compare it to the big legos vs the little legos
17:48 <tramshed> haha
17:48 <tramshed> fuckin duplos
17:49 <tramshed> I think when I bring my server comes back its gonna be titled LOW RUBBER, NOT FOR YOU NOOBS
17:50 <Lucifer_arma> and my new favorite thing to do is bait these so-called rubber players
17:50 <Stewie-arma> bait them?
17:50 <Lucifer_arma> nothing is improved by rubber, certainly not sex nor arma!
17:50 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, point out that high rubber is like having childproof locks on all your cabinets
17:51 <Lucifer_arma> i.e. you only need it for children
17:51 <Stewie-arma> lol
17:51 <MrBougo> when i was like 5
17:51 <Lucifer_arma> you'll notice the average age of a "rubber" player is much lower than the average age of any player, and even lower than the average age of fort/other players
17:51 <MrBougo> i found out that duplos and legos could work together
17:52 <MrBougo> hehe Lucifer_arma
17:52 <Stewie-arma> lol that is true Lucifer_arma
17:52 <MrBougo> im 17, in what box would you put me
17:52 <Stewie-arma> MrBougo: how can they?
17:52 <Lucifer_arma> when I was like 32, I found out that 3 200MB avi files on a CD were better than transcoding them to mpg2 to make 6 cds
17:53 <MrBougo> Stewie-arma: you can put the big bricks on the lil bricks
17:53 <MrBougo> not the invesre
17:53 <MrBougo> hehe Lucifer_arma
17:53 <Stewie-arma> MrBougo: but then that would only make it so you could use them for the top...
17:53 <MrBougo> yup
17:53 <MrBougo> crazy, isnt it?
17:53 <Stewie-arma> not much use in that...
17:53 <Stewie-arma> lol
17:54 <MrBougo> you could build a house out of duplos on a lego board
17:54 <Stewie-arma> but yeah it is crazy
17:54 <Lucifer_arma> and while I could have fit 4 on a disc, the series was only six episodes long, so it was better to split it up evenly
17:54 <Stewie-arma> so 3 on each?
17:55 <Stewie-arma> how long was I away?
17:55 <Lucifer_arma> yes, 3 on each
17:56 <MrBougo> legos are awesome
17:56 <MrBougo> the guy who created them is a genius :p
17:56 <Lucifer_arma> not nearly as much of a genius as the guy who created transformers
17:57 <Lucifer_arma> I mean, the guy took the two toys that boys like most and combined them into one toy
17:57 <MrBougo> genius too
17:57 <Lucifer_arma> makes it so that kids will spend hours just transforming the things back and forth, a very quiet activity
17:57 <MrBougo> indeed
17:57 <Lucifer_arma> now I see why my parents were so happy to buy us transformers :)
17:57 <MrBougo> as long as they dont make them attack the tv
17:57 <Stewie-arma> lol I could never get them back -.-
17:57 <MrBougo> its indeed awesome
17:58 <MrBougo> and the awesomeness is proportionnal to the complexity of the transforming, isnt it?
17:59 <MrBougo> lego doesnt want us to say "legos"
17:59 <MrBougo> fuckers
17:59 <MrBougo> it's impossible!
18:00 <Lucifer_arma> fishes, mooses, mouses, sheeps, deers
18:00 <MrBougo> legos
18:00 <MrBougo> darwin was right
18:01 <Lucifer_arma> fishes, mooses, mouses, sheeps, deers, legos <--- all of these words have something in common
18:01 <Lucifer_arma> they're all toys!
18:01 <MrBougo> lol
18:01 <MrBougo> especially fishes
18:01 <MrBougo> lets play fish-splat!
18:01 <Lucifer_arma> I watched the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy last night
18:01 <Lucifer_arma> the movie
18:02 <Stewie-arma> I have 3 more episodes to the end of the whole Rurouni Kenshin Series please stop yo hands!
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18:04 <tramshed> Lucifer_arma, ive got the complete radio show if you want it
18:04 <tramshed> the movie is only about a third of the whole thing
18:04 <Lucifer_arma> yes, absolutely :)
18:04 <Lucifer_arma> the movie went off in a direction that wasn't in the books or the tv series :)
18:04 <tramshed> http://www.sadena.com/hh/
18:04 <tramshed> good shit right there.
18:05 <tramshed> whole thing is around 12 hours long iirc
18:05 <Lucifer_arma> hah, the infocom game, too?
18:05 <Lucifer_arma> what OS is it for?
18:05 <tramshed> dunno
18:05 <Lucifer_arma> I'll look at it, chances are it's for apple IIe or C-64, and there's emulators for both out there
18:18 <tramshed> yeah
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18:21 <Lucifer_arma> ack, looks like MS-DOS
18:25 * Lucifer_arma wonders how easy it would be to run freedos in an emulator
18:25 <luke-jr|work> easy
18:33 <MrBougo> bye
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19:11 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/SSOAN/polygon/regular/wildcat3-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by SSOAN
19:14 <noob13> how would i go about removing a map from the resource? :O
19:26 <epsy> luke-jr|work,
19:26 <epsy> that's the only way
19:26 <epsy> noob13, any news from 7?
19:27 <Stewie-arma> done with the tv series ^_^
19:28 <MrBougo> lawl
19:29 <Stewie-arma> my left arrow key almost came off right now, but I just popped it back in lol
19:32 <epsy> what's the name of the file the wingblows recording shortcuts uses ?
19:33 <MrBougo> lol Stewie-arma
19:33 <MrBougo> makes me remember
19:33 <MrBougo> i had some bug one day
19:33 <MrBougo> looked like my left arrow was stuck
19:33 <MrBougo> but it wasnt
19:33 <MrBougo> and i was typing revesed then
19:35 <luke-jr|work> epsy: ???
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19:44 <epsy> luke-jr|work, <noob13> how would i go about removing a map from the resource? :O
19:48 <noob13> :P
19:49 <noob13> epsy: no havent heard from noob7_away.... which is good, he's supposed to be having a vacation
19:50 <noob13> so luke-jr|work, seems we uploaded some fucked maps :P
19:51 <noob13> each with "wildcat" should be removed if possible
19:51 <noob13> then we can upload the proper schmee
19:58 <luke-jr|work> epsy: impossible
19:58 <luke-jr|work> noob13: *
19:59 <luke-jr|work> the upload applet checks the XML headers to be sure it's correct before adding it
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20:02 <epsy> does it do a dtd check too ?
20:03 <epsy> (i mean does it checks if the document is valid compared if it's giveen dtd ?)
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20:14 <noob13> luke-jr|work: well the issue is that many ppl cant access the server when one of the maps is loaded
20:14 <noob13> would that suggest some randomness in the version
20:14 <noob13> or something or whatever... what the deal might be?
20:16 <luke-jr|work> epsy: yes
20:16 <luke-jr|work> noob13: can't access the server how?
20:17 <noob13> idk actually... for me it works fine. i'd guess they get an error when the map is being loaded
20:19 <luke-jr|work> did you used to have it outside the repository?
20:19 <luke-jr|work> maybe broken?
20:19 <MrBougo> brown?
20:19 <MrBougo> oh nvm
20:19 <MrBougo> i read brown :/
20:22 <noob13> ehm... according to one of them the error was "map not found in local memory"
20:22 <noob13> which seems rather odd does it not...
20:23 <luke-jr|work> yes
20:25 <noob13> would you have a look at the code to see if u spot a problem?
20:25 <noob13> if not, it must be something on their side....
20:25 <noob13> like... old-ass version of the game
20:25 <luke-jr|work> so how are these maps polygon/regular ? :)
20:26 <noob13> that i dont know...
20:26 <noob13> just following suit
20:27 <luke-jr|work> ...
20:27 <luke-jr|work> suit is to change the category flag when you modify the map
20:29 <noob13> well excuse my confusion
20:29 * noob13 is a noob
20:29 <noob13> all the more reason to remove those maps...
20:29 <luke-jr|work> maps are never removed
20:29 <noob13> i see...
20:29 <luke-jr|work> just stop using them
20:30 <luke-jr|work> and nobody will know they exist
20:30 <luke-jr|work> :p
20:30 <luke-jr|work> well, minus the resource browser
20:30 <luke-jr|work> wrtlprnft: we should implement a method to hide stuff from the browser
20:32 <luke-jr|work> wrtlprnft: .hidden file created with list of filenames
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20:40 <ghableska> #weather 50266
20:40 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 95.7°F (1:43 PM CDT on August 14, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 75.2°F. Pressure: 28.90 in 978.6 hPa (Falling).
20:40 <ghableska> #seen ghableska
20:40 <armabot> ghableska: ghableska was last seen in #armagetron 9 seconds ago: <ghableska> #weather 50266
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20:45 <tramshed> #seen pirate
20:45 <armabot> tramshed: I have not seen pirate.
20:45 <tramshed> lies!
20:45 <tramshed> #lastseen pirate
20:45 <armabot> tramshed: timed out
20:46 <tramshed> hah
20:55 <Lucifer_arma> yeah,, it is around 12 hours
20:55 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 13*28.5
20:55 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 370.5
20:55 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 13*28.5/60
20:55 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 6.175
20:55 <Lucifer_arma> er
20:55 <Lucifer_arma> heh
20:55 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 26*28.5/60
20:55 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 12.35
20:55 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 26*28.5/60 + (3 + 5)/60.0
20:55 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 12.4833333333
20:56 <MrBougo> lol
20:56 <Lucifer_arma> there, about 12 and a half hours long
20:56 <MrBougo> #math calc 0*0
20:56 <armabot> MrBougo: 0
20:56 <MrBougo> woot, i didnt know
20:56 <Lucifer_arma> unfortunately, since each episode is 28 minutes, I can only fit 2 on a CD
20:56 <tramshed> #math calc 100000/24/365
20:56 <armabot> tramshed: 11.4155251142
20:57 <Lucifer_arma> so it'll take 13 discs
20:57 <Lucifer_arma> I DON'T HAVE 13 DISCS!
20:57 <Lucifer_arma> well, maybe. I have a bunch of cd-rws I bought years ago that'll probably work
20:57 * Lucifer_arma goes to get them
21:06 <MrBougo> lol
21:06 <MrBougo> DIVX THEM OMG
21:06 <MrBougo> 160*90 pixels!
21:06 <tramshed> xvid > divx
21:06 <MrBougo> roxx!
21:08 <Lucifer_arma> divx a radio program? wtf?
21:08 <MrBougo> oh
21:08 <MrBougo> COMPRESS IT
21:09 <Lucifer_arma> THEN IT WON'T PLAY IN MY WIFE'S CAR YOU FUCKING IDIOT
21:09 <Lucifer_arma> :)
21:09 <MrBougo> why /60 btw?
21:09 <MrBougo> a CD is 90 minites
21:09 <MrBougo> u*
21:09 <Lucifer_arma> minutes/hour
21:09 <Lucifer_arma> er, 1 hour/60 minutes
21:09 <Lucifer_arma> and no, a CD isn't 90 minutes
21:09 <Lucifer_arma> it's 80 :)
21:10 <MrBougo> ew
21:10 <MrBougo> thought it was 90
21:10 <Lucifer_arma> used to be 76
21:10 <Lucifer_arma> still is in some really old cd players
21:10 <MrBougo> crap
21:10 <MrBougo> my plans are ruined
21:10 <MrBougo> if its 80 i cant conquer the worlcd
21:10 <MrBougo> HAHA NICE TYPO
21:10 <MrBougo> world*
21:12 <luke-jr|work> Lucifer_arma: a CD is 73 to 99 minutes
21:12 <luke-jr|work> well, it could be even lower than that
21:12 <luke-jr|work> but 99 min is the max
21:13 <luke-jr|work> #echo Lucifer_arma: a CD can be up to 99 minutes
21:13 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: a CD can be up to 99 minutes
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21:14 <MrBougo> lol
21:14 <MrBougo> that was from luke-jr|work, Lucifer_arma
21:14 <MrBougo> btw luke-jr|work, are you sure?
21:14 <MrBougo> sounds crazy
21:15 <luke-jr|work> MrBougo: yes
21:15 <luke-jr|work> well
21:15 <luke-jr|work> I'm sure it's possible
21:15 <luke-jr|work> might not be standards-compliant tho
21:15 <MrBougo> try it :p
21:15 <MrBougo> oh i know
21:15 <MrBougo> you're trying to fill that hole in the CD
21:16 <luke-jr|work> the Red Book says 74 minute max
21:16 <MrBougo> lol
21:16 <MrBougo> Mao's Red Book?
21:16 <luke-jr|work> ...
21:17 <luke-jr|work> the Red Book that defines the audio CD format
21:17 <MrBougo> oh
21:19 <luke-jr|work> http://www.shop.com/870MB_99_Minute_52X_Silver_CD_R_Blank_Media_100_Piece_Pack_99min_-11781315-57055443-p!.shtml
21:19 <luke-jr|work> they're expensive :o
21:19 <luke-jr|work> (99 min CD-Rs)
21:20 <MrBougo> LOL :o
21:20 <MrBougo> expensive indeed
21:20 <MrBougo> ... the hell!
21:22 <tramshed> you can overburn 80s pretty close to 90 if they are good brands
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21:22 <MrBougo> crazy
21:22 <Legio> BOUGO!
21:23 <MrBougo> LEGIO
21:23 <MrBougo> NELLA
21:23 <epsy> legionarie!
21:23 <MrBougo> Legionella ella ella ay ay ay
21:23 <Legio> i bet you dont even remmember how we met lol
21:24 <Legio> *epsu has a big baguette*
21:24 <tramshed> I bet you werent wearing any pants
21:24 <epsy> MrBougo, tu sais coment like un record sous wingblows ?
21:24 <Legio> LOL!
21:24 <MrBougo> for sure epsy
21:24 <epsy> LOL! © Hoaxy and HoAX 2.0
21:24 <Legio> woo he speaks hip english/american!
21:25 <Legio> for show!
21:25 <epsy> MrBougo, tu peux expliquer à Legio ? =)
21:25 <MrBougo> epsy: "C:\Program Files\Armagetron Advanced\armagetronad.exe" --playback "<path to the record>"
21:25 * epsy speaks mexican
21:25 <epsy> MrBougo, full path ?
21:25 <MrBougo> yup
21:25 <MrBougo> not relative
21:25 <MrBougo> abolute path :)
21:25 <epsy> rofl
21:25 <epsy> windws sux :D
21:25 <MrBougo> yup, thats windows
21:26 <Legio> windows babe! forever and a day!
21:26 <epsy> Legio, <win key> + R
21:26 <Legio> oO
21:26 <Legio> what that mean
21:26 <epsy> type that
21:26 <Legio> damn its a privet message thingy
21:26 <epsy> what's your user name ?
21:27 <MrBougo> epsy: what does that shortcut do?
21:27 <Legio> <win key + R
21:27 <Legio> LOLOLOLOL
21:27 <Legio> <win key> + R
21:27 <Legio> o dear
21:27 <Legio> o dear o dea
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21:27 <epsy> MrBougo, je crois c pour le truc « executer »
21:27 <MrBougo> rienavoir
21:27 <epsy> merde
21:27 <MrBougo> t'es pas un windowsien
21:27 <epsy> oui
21:27 <MrBougo> shut your trap, linuxian
21:27 <MrBougo> xD
21:27 <epsy> explain him your self!
21:27 <MrBougo> you cant beat the windows elite
21:28 <epsy> then explain him
21:28 <MrBougo> i cant, the windows help sucks
21:28 <MrBougo> no "man"
21:28 <epsy> rofl
21:28 <MrBougo> xD
21:28 <MrBougo> Legio: start menu
21:28 <MrBougo> hit "run"
21:28 <MrBougo> anhd copy paste that
21:28 <epsy> and go away VERY FAST from your computer
21:28 <MrBougo> "C:\Program Files\Armagetron Advanced\armagetronad.exe" --playback ""
21:28 <MrBougo> then put the path to your .aarec between the last quotes
21:29 <MrBougo> oh crap, youre right epsy
21:29 <MrBougo> windows R
21:29 <epsy> you might explain him how we do get that path -_-
21:29 <MrBougo> didnt' notice it
21:29 <MrBougo> awwwwww
21:29 * epsy slaps MrBougo
21:29 <MrBougo> Legio: right click the .aarec file
21:30 <MrBougo> properties
21:30 * epsy throws MrBougo on the rim to see if the wall rip bug has been fixed
21:30 <MrBougo> it isnt :D
21:30 <Legio> path thingy?
21:30 <epsy> yup
21:30 <Legio> god you all are genious
21:30 <Legio> insaine
21:30 <MrBougo> lol
21:30 <epsy> copy paste it between the quotes
21:30 <Legio> i seriously dont understand a ruddy thing
21:30 <Legio> now that i do
21:31 <MrBougo> copy the "location" thingy in the properties dialog
21:31 <MrBougo> put a \ after it
21:31 <Legio> wow!
21:31 <MrBougo> and put the .aarec's name after it
21:31 <MrBougo> damn that sucks for sure
21:31 <Legio> all i need was a \ lol
21:31 <epsy> (use tab to autocomplete ?)
21:31 <MrBougo> epsy: not in the "run" thingy
21:31 <MrBougo> only in dos
21:31 <epsy> roflmao
21:32 <MrBougo> it isnt case sensitive btw :p
21:32 <Legio> o dear
21:32 <Legio> it doesnt find it
21:32 <MrBougo> ew
21:32 <MrBougo> can you copy the command here?
21:32 <Legio> i have
21:33 <Legio> C:\Program Files\Armagetron Advanced\armagetronad.exe
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21:33 <MrBougo> muh?
21:33 <epsy> wb
21:33 <MrBougo> thats not the full command
21:33 <Legio> \
21:33 <MrBougo> naah
21:33 <epsy> D
21:33 <Legio> ArmagetronAdvancedDebugRecording.aarec
21:33 <MrBougo> whats the path to your .aarec?
21:33 <MrBougo> is it?
21:33 <Legio> wee
21:33 <MrBougo> the full path?
21:34 <epsy> his desktop
21:34 <MrBougo> i dont know his UID
21:34 <Legio> C:\Documents and Settings\Michael\Desktop
21:34 <Legio> I LOVE WINDOWS!
21:34 <Legio> what a gay name michael is
21:34 <MrBougo> "C:\Program Files\Armagetron Advanced\armagetronad.exe" --playback "C:\Documents and Settings\Michael\Desktop\ArmagetronAdvancedDebugRecording.aarec"
21:34 <epsy> C:\Program Files\Armagetron Advanced\armagetronad.exe" --playback "C:\Documents and Settings\Michael\Desktop\ArmagetronAdvancedDebugRecording.aarec"
21:34 <epsy> lol
21:34 <MrBougo> pwned
21:35 <epsy> #kill MrBougo
21:35 <armabot> MrBougo will die on 08:03 PM, July 06, 2007 GMT due to being stabbed in the eye by epsy
21:35 <MrBougo> mine is correct
21:35 <MrBougo> yours isnt
21:35 <Legio> what the hell is that?
21:35 <epsy> "C:\Program Files\Armagetron Advanced\armagetronad.exe" --playback "C:\Documents and Settings\Michael\Desktop\ArmagetronAdvancedDebugRecording.aarec"
21:35 <MrBougo> the thing you have to paste in the "run" window
21:35 <Legio> repeating it jjust confuzees me more
21:35 <MrBougo> :(
21:35 <MrBougo> epsy, gtg :§(
21:35 <Legio> i knew that
21:35 <Legio> lmao
21:35 <epsy> eh
21:35 <Legio> I LOVE YOU BOUGO!
21:35 <Legio> remmember that
21:36 <Legio> and
21:36 <Legio> we met when you swore revenge against me
21:36 <Legio> after core-dumping to the extream
21:36 <MrBougo> lol
21:36 <Legio> thats how!
21:36 <Legio> it was like 1 am or summmin
21:36 <MrBougo> did we?
21:36 <Legio> yes
21:36 <MrBougo> nice way to meet :p
21:36 <epsy> * Legionarie has a thin and long spaghetti *
21:36 <Legio> you got pissed off lol
21:36 <Legio> so bad
21:37 <MrBougo> hehe
21:37 <Legio> it was hilerious
21:37 <MrBougo> did i get my revenge?
21:37 <Legio> hell no lol
21:37 <MrBougo> if i didnt, remind me to get it some day
21:37 <MrBougo> bye :p
21:37 <Legio> who'd get core dumped by you ;P
21:37 <MrBougo> myself!
21:37 <Legio> LMA!O
21:37 <MrBougo> so true.....
21:37 <MrBougo> bye
21:37 <Legio> beuno notte
21:37 <MrBougo> same2u
21:37 <Legio> =)
21:38 <Legio> salut
21:38 <MrBougo> sweet coredumping dreams
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21:38 <Legio> ahaha!
21:38 <Legio> epsy
21:38 <epsy> Legio,
21:38 <Legio> has
21:38 <Legio> a
21:38 <Legio> HUGE
21:38 <epsy> * Legionarie has a thin and long spaghetti *
21:38 <Legio> baguette
21:38 <epsy> :D
21:38 <Legio> xD
21:39 <Legio> bah doenst work epsy
21:39 <Legio> =(
21:39 <Legio> i go on msn i have 5 ppl to awnser ! lol
21:39 <epsy> lol
21:42 <Stewie-arma> grrr tremulous gets really annoying when your team is full of feeders
21:45 <epsy> indeed
21:45 <epsy> in arma too ;)
21:46 <Lucifer_arma> 74 minutes = 650MB
21:46 <Legio> epsy probs is the feeder
21:46 <Lucifer_arma> 80 minutes = 700MB
21:46 <Legio> wth? lucifer
21:46 <epsy> Legio, programs / accessories / command prompt
21:46 <Lucifer_arma> you can overburn and you can get a few extra minutes, but that's not guaranteed to work anywhere
21:47 <Lucifer_arma> hell, 80 minutes isn't guaranteed to work anywhere
21:47 <Legio> errrr....ok
21:47 <Lucifer_arma> doesn't mtter, the cd-rws I have are old enough that they're 74 minutes anyway
21:47 <epsy> "C:\Program Files\Armagetron Advanced\armagetronad.exe" --playback "C:\Documents and Settings\Michael\Desktop\ArmagetronAdvancedDebugRecording.aarec"
21:47 <Legio> epsy i dont haav a ruddy clue
21:47 <epsy> type that in
21:47 <Lucifer_arma> Legio: I guess you're not here often enough to notice this, but there are conversations going on all the time where it could be hours between responses
21:48 <Legio> i understand dont you worry
21:48 <Legio> i just dont know any of the commmands
21:48 <Legio> ANY!
21:48 <epsy> "C:\Program Files\Armagetron Advanced\armagetronad.exe" --playback "C:\Documents and Settings\Michael\Desktop\ArmagetronAdvancedDebugRecording.aarec"
21:48 <epsy> just type this in
21:48 <epsy> well, copy paste it :P
21:49 <Legio> majic!
21:49 <epsy> with the quotes
21:49 <epsy> :D
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21:49 <Legio> what now?!?
21:49 <Legio> oO
21:49 <Legio> epsy magic
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21:49 <epsy> does it work ?
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21:50 <epsy> wb |Sticky|
21:52 <Stewie-arma> well I'm off to go get some in-n-out ^_^
21:52 <Stewie-arma> cyas
21:52 <|Sticky|> hay all
21:52 <epsy> cu
21:52 <epsy> hay
21:52 <Stewie-arma> bye sticky
21:53 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, Vanhayes luke-jr|work GodTodd civ tonight? D:
21:53 * epsy slaps spidey for pinging luke-jr|work
21:53 * spidey slaps epsy just because he can
21:53 * epsy smiles at spidey
21:54 * |Sticky| feels left out of the civ invite
21:54 * epsy is happy being out of it
21:54 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.org/smf/index.php?topic=1190.msg28713#msg28713
21:54 <spidey> D:
21:55 <Legio> epsy do i just go on game?
21:55 <Legio> now?
21:55 <epsy> ??
21:55 <epsy> did it work ?
21:56 <Legio> after doing the whole run and type in the location
21:56 <epsy> type enter ?
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21:58 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: likely
21:58 <Legio> errrrrr
21:58 <Lucifer_arma> y'all can invite yourselves if you want in a civ game, we've just invited everyone and had most people say no
21:58 <Legio> local game
21:58 <Legio> internet game
21:58 <Legio> etc...
21:58 <Legio> what?
21:58 <Lucifer_arma> so we just invite people who are likely to say yes
21:59 <epsy> rofl
21:59 <epsy> it's like you didn't entered the filename right
21:59 <Legio> civ?
21:59 <Legio> yes i have epsy
21:59 <Legio> exactly
21:59 <Legio> what is civ?
21:59 <epsy> Legio, civ is another game
21:59 <Legio> a collinder
21:59 <Lucifer_arma> freeciv
21:59 <Legio> oO
21:59 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.freeciv.org/
21:59 * Legio doesnt understand and will shut up now
21:59 <epsy> #tea
22:00 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): andy, Bip, dBd|Nos, D®|error, ~|DS|~zion, ¦×¥ FoFo
22:00 <epsy> ofofo
22:00 <epsy> Legio, so ?
22:00 <Legio> urgh im fed up i know nothing compared to you guys
22:00 <Legio> i have went on game
22:00 <epsy> ?
22:00 <Legio> it gives me the same options as if i started arma up normally
22:01 <epsy> the record is playing right ?
22:01 <epsy> that looks like you gave a wrong filename
22:01 <Legio> local, internet, network, exit
22:01 <Legio> i couldnt of
22:01 <epsy> quit it
22:02 <epsy> hit up arrow in the console
22:02 <Legio> why is god so contemt in making every attempt i do to succeed a failure!!!
22:02 <Legio> WHY!
22:02 <epsy> then check the path to the recording
22:02 <Legio> *contempt
22:03 <epsy> .ping
22:03 <Legio> i have
22:03 <Legio> it all makes sence
22:03 <Legio> urgh epsy i have tried
22:03 <Legio> i am tired
22:03 <|Sticky|> ffs its been so long why cant beryl sort out the window decoration already
22:03 <Legio> *epsy has a huge baguette
22:04 <epsy> well, copy paste here the command you used
22:04 <epsy> * Legionarie has a thin and long spaghetti *
22:04 <Legio> i have
22:04 <Legio> THIN!?
22:04 <Legio> what!
22:04 <Legio> lol
22:04 <epsy> copy paste it TO here
22:05 <epsy> :D
22:05 <Legio> "C:\Program Files\Armagetron Advanced\armagetronad.exe" --playback "C:\Documents and Settings\Michael\Desktop\ArmagetronAdvancedDebugRecording.aarec"
22:05 <Legio> walla
22:05 * GodTodd might be interested in a freeciv game....but i can't play til around 8pm :/
22:05 <Legio> or is it valla
22:05 <Legio> wth is freeciv!?
22:05 <Legio> i like games!
22:05 <Legio> i good at some believe it or not!
22:06 <epsy> Legio, rename that fucking file to something shorter
22:06 <Legio> how?
22:06 <Legio> its what you said to re name the file
22:07 <Legio> omg im gona cry
22:07 <epsy> try to rename it to something shorter
22:07 <Legio> but its the name you told me to rename it to
22:07 <Legio> urgh forget it epsy
22:08 <epsy> nvm about what i told you to do before
22:08 <epsy> just rename it to seomthing shorter
22:08 <Legio> 2/rename the aarec file to ArmagetronAdvancedDebugRecording.aarec
22:08 <epsy> nvm about that -_-
22:08 <epsy> just rename it to seomthing shorter
22:10 <Legio> Arma.aarec
22:10 <epsy> ok
22:10 <Legio> oko?
22:10 <epsy> oko
22:10 <Legio> =)
22:11 <epsy> "C:\Program Files\Armagetron Advanced\armagetronad.exe" --playback "C:\Documents and Settings\Michael\Desktop\Arma.aarec"
22:11 <epsy> if this doesn't work -_-
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22:17 <Legio> im gna cry!
22:17 <Legio> ahaha doesnt work
22:17 <Legio> actully doesnt
22:17 <Legio> windows FTW!
22:18 <epsy> is there someone here who have a clue about wingblows ?
22:19 <Lucifer_arma> well, my wife's cd player won't play cd-rws anyway, so I'll just burn the rest as a data disc instead :/
22:19 <Legio> dont worry epsy
22:20 <|Sticky|> epsy: what you doing in windows??
22:20 <Legio> forget it
22:20 <luke-jr|work> spidey: ok
22:20 <luke-jr|work> spidey: if I have internet
22:20 <Legio> i thank you for the time you have devoted to the issue though
22:20 <Legio> but give it a rest, its going nowhere
22:20 <epsy> |Sticky|, not me, legio needs help playing a record back
22:20 <Legio> epsy, dont worry!
22:21 * epsy has worries
22:21 <epsy> :D
22:22 <Legio> =)
22:22 <Legio> EPSY HAS A HUGE BAGUETTE!!
22:22 <Legio> wait
22:22 <Legio> can you explain 1 thing
22:22 <Legio> wth is civ?
22:23 <epsy> ppl mastering game or smth
22:24 <Legio> ah
22:24 <Legio> what is the game, you know?
22:25 <Legio> tell me how do you speak "privetly with some1 ? opening a window
22:25 <Legio> msn is so much easier
22:26 <Legio> haha real name " the epsy"
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22:29 <Legio> oly jackanory
22:29 <Legio> *holy
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22:31 <tramshed> this could go on forever.
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22:33 <spidey> wtf?
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22:35 <tramshed> yeah
22:35 <tramshed> lets ban him
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22:45 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, luke-jr|work guru3 wrtlprnft
22:45 <spidey> ping
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22:46 <spidey> ty :D
22:46 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o Lucifer_arma] by Lucifer_arma
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22:47 <guru3> spidey: what?
22:47 <Lucifer_arma> grrr, why don't the freedos people provide a qemu image?
22:48 <spidey> nvm Lucifer_arma got it :D
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22:52 <luke-jr|work> spidey:
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23:32 * GodTodd is testing the automatic functions on his oven :)
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23:56 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
23:56 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Near Custer and Parker, Plano, Texas is 102.6°F (5:01 PM CDT on August 14, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 25%. Dew Point: 60.8°F. Pressure: 31.01 in 1050.0 hPa (Falling). Air pollution watch level Orange in effect for Wednesday...
23:57 <GodTodd> good...temp is dropping
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23:58 <GodTodd> anyone here chinese?
Log from 2007-08-15:
--- Day changed Wed Aug 15 2007
00:00 <spidey> #weather 38256
00:00 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 99.1°F (5:05 PM CDT on August 14, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 25%. Dew Point: 57.2°F. Pressure: 29.84 in 1010.4 hPa (Steady). Heat advisory in effect until 8 PM CDT Thursday...
00:00 <spidey> rofl
00:01 <spidey> GodTodd, air pollution?
00:01 <GodTodd> yeah...that's that thing where there's shit in the air
00:01 <spidey> having shit in the air tends to happen when you've got alot of flying bugs around
00:02 <GodTodd> birds too
00:02 <GodTodd> birds shit alot
00:02 <spidey> lol
00:03 <GodTodd> wtf are we still outsourcing to china?
00:03 <GodTodd> the fuckers are trying to kill us with toys
00:03 <spidey> haha
00:03 <GodTodd> tires too
00:05 <GodTodd> on the bright side, i finally figured out how to load my mp3 player
00:05 <GodTodd> :)
00:06 <GodTodd> sorry...digital music player (since it has ogg support)
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00:08 <luke-jr|work> GodTodd: mp3 sux
00:08 <GodTodd> obviously luke-jr|work read everything i said...
00:09 <luke-jr|work> :)
00:09 <spidey> i haven't been in this good of a mood in a very long time
00:09 <spidey> luke-jr|work, i might even be nice to your for awhile
00:09 <spidey> D:
00:09 <GodTodd> luke-jr|work sux
00:09 <spidey> 1 1/2 xanax bars ftw \:D/
00:10 <PsYkO> #weather 48120
00:10 <armabot> PsYkO: The current temperature in DearbornWeather.com Weather Station, Dearborn, Michigan is 81.1°F (6:15 PM EDT on August 14, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 60.8°F. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa (Steady).
00:10 <GodTodd> #weather hell
00:11 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Baseline Lake, Pinckney, Michigan is 80.8°F (6:15 PM EDT on August 14, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 64.4°F. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011.4 hPa (Steady).
00:11 <PsYkO> #weather 22124
00:11 <spidey> #weather heavan
00:11 <armabot> PsYkO: The current temperature in Vale Park West, Oakton, Virginia is 83.7°F (6:16 PM EDT on August 14, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 53.6°F. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012.4 hPa (Falling).
00:11 <armabot> spidey: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
00:11 <PsYkO> 83.7 nice ^^
00:11 <spidey> sweet
00:11 <PsYkO> fuggin hot in tennessee
00:11 <spidey> heaven doesn't exsist
00:11 <spidey> luke-jr|work, pwned
00:11 <PsYkO> #weather 10001
00:11 <armabot> PsYkO: The current temperature in Central Park, New York is 77.0°F (5:51 PM EDT on August 14, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 50.0°F. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
00:11 <PsYkO> lol
00:11 <GodTodd> #weather heaven
00:11 <spidey> it's 99.1 here
00:11 <armabot> GodTodd: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
00:11 <luke-jr|work> spidey: pwned by you saying bs?
00:11 <PsYkO> who would have thunk that
00:11 <spidey> but it's 71 in my house
00:11 <PsYkO> #weather 50000
00:11 <armabot> PsYkO: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
00:12 <PsYkO> #weather 66666
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00:12 <GodTodd> luke-jr|work is pwned by anyone with an IQ over 75
00:12 <armabot> PsYkO: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
00:12 <PsYkO> arhghghghg
00:12 <PsYkO> #weather 13375
00:12 <armabot> PsYkO: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
00:12 <luke-jr|work> ... and under 100
00:12 <PsYkO> leets ftl :(
00:12 <GodTodd> luke-jr|work: you're pwned by anyone with an IQ under 100?
00:12 <spidey> #weather heaven
00:13 <armabot> spidey: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
00:13 <spidey> http://www.weather.com/outlook/recreation/outdoors/overview/WAWILDINDH?from=search_vert
00:14 <spidey> #weather indian heaven
00:14 <armabot> spidey: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
00:14 <GodTodd> man...we've hit 104 for 3 straight days :/
00:14 <spidey> #weather 38256
00:14 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 99.3°F (5:19 PM CDT on August 14, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 25%. Dew Point: 57.2°F. Pressure: 29.84 in 1010.4 hPa (Steady). Heat advisory in effect until 8 PM CDT Thursday...
00:14 <spidey> 99.3 and it's in the evening
00:15 <luke-jr|work> GodTodd: 75-100, because they're just too dumb to get it and too smart to know it
00:15 <spidey> eh
00:15 <spidey> my iq is above 100
00:15 <spidey> ...
00:16 <luke-jr|work> spidey: so you don't pwn me
00:16 <spidey> coughbullshitcough
00:17 <GodTodd> luke-jr|work: so...where does your 37 fit?
00:17 <GodTodd> :D
00:17 <spidey> http://wireddd.myvnc.com/fa/index.php
00:17 <spidey> new fa site soon :D
00:18 <GodTodd> anyway...time to mow the lawn
00:18 <GodTodd> :/
00:18 <luke-jr|work> GodTodd: you're off my 10 times
00:18 <luke-jr|work> 370
00:18 <spidey> mine*
00:18 <spidey> by*
00:18 <luke-jr|work> by*
00:18 <luke-jr|work> lol
00:19 <GodTodd> well...i suppose if you can believe the bible, you can believe you have a 370 iq too
00:19 <luke-jr|work> don't try correcting a typo until you know what I mean
00:19 <spidey> i knew what you ment
00:19 <spidey> i'm just to fucked to give a shit
00:21 <PsYkO> 100 iq is less than a college graduate
00:21 <PsYkO> 20 less me thinks
00:21 <GodTodd> depends on the college ;)
00:21 <PsYkO> average college graduate
00:22 <GodTodd> 90-110 is considered average iirc
00:23 <GodTodd> so...if luke-jr|work clones himself a couple times, he could hit average :D
00:24 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, I don't see it, psyko
00:24 <PsYkO> ?
00:24 <Lucifer_arma> 80 seems about average for liberal arts graduates
00:24 <Lucifer_arma> lower for business graduates
00:24 <PsYkO> im just going from what my psych teacher said xD
00:25 <Lucifer_arma> actually, there is something to the idea that university graduates would have higher iqs on average
00:25 <luke-jr|work> GodTodd: 270 * 3 is 810, not 110
00:25 <Lucifer_arma> since iq is basically the aggregate of however they measure creativity and also life experience
00:25 <Lucifer_arma> university classes give you lots of book-learned life experience, which should bump up the average a bit
00:26 <Lucifer_arma> there's probably no noticeable difference in average creativity, if it can be measured, between people who go and people who don't
00:26 <Lucifer_arma> my money's on science/engineering graduates being at the top end :)
00:26 <Lucifer_arma> and business graduates at the bottom end
00:27 <Lucifer_arma> but it amounts to basically you're as smart as an average person at a given age, then the final computation that generates the number we all know and love is
00:27 <Lucifer_arma> (measured age/actual age) * 100
00:27 <Lucifer_arma> so anybody with an iq that's not 100 even is, by definition, abnormal
00:27 <Lucifer_arma> :)
00:30 * Lucifer_arma is building a robot to wash his dishes
00:30 * Lucifer_arma hasn't gotten very far, all he's done so far is say that he wants one
00:31 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
00:31 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 92.7°F (5:35 PM CDT on August 14, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 60.8°F. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa (Falling).
00:31 <Lucifer_arma> tropical storms blowing in
00:32 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, Vanhayes_ GodTodd luke-jr|work > i think i asked earlier, but i don't remember if anyone responded...civ tonight?
00:33 <Lucifer_arma> I responded with "probably"
00:33 <Lucifer_arma> however, I'm very sleepy and may not be interested
00:33 <spidey> k
00:33 <spidey> ;(
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01:12 <PsYkO> there was recently a 2 year old that had the relative IQ test reading as steven hawkins
01:13 <tramshed> Ima put money on hawkins.
01:14 <PsYkO> she knew the difference between pink and purple, apparently thats a big deal when ur 2
01:15 <luke-jr|work> spidey: I SAID IF I HAVE INTERNET
01:19 <spidey> luke-jr|work, YOU WASN'T INVITED ANYWAYS
01:23 <luke-jr|work> liar
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02:11 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
02:11 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Near Custer and Parker, Plano, Texas is 99.3°F (7:16 PM CDT on August 14, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 28%. Dew Point: 60.8°F. Pressure: 31.01 in 1050.0 hPa (Falling). Air pollution watch level Orange in effect for Wednesday...
02:16 <PsYkO> I NED HELP
02:18 * tramshed hands PsYkO a xanax
02:19 <Vanhayes_> spidey: civ sounds good, but only if we start soon
02:27 <Vanhayes_> #weather saint john
02:27 <armabot> Vanhayes_: Temperature: 57°F / 14°C | Humidity: 68% | Pressure: 29.86in / 1011hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h | Updated: 9:00 PM ADT; Tonight - A few clouds. Fog patches developing overnight. Low 9C(48F) except 12C(54F) along the coast.; Wednesday - Sunny. Becoming cloudy in the afternoon. Fog patches dissipating in the morning. Wind becoming southwest (1 more message)
02:27 <Vanhayes_> #more
02:27 <armabot> Vanhayes_: 30 km/h (19 mph) in the afternoon. High 20C(68F). UV index 6 or high. Wednesday night cloudy. 30 percent chance of showers in the evening. Wind southwest 30 km/h (19 mph) becoming light in the evening. Low 13C(55F).; Thursday - A mix of sun and cloud with 30 percent chance of showers. High 20C(68F).;
02:29 <GodTodd> 57?!?!?!?!
02:29 <GodTodd> damn canucks
02:29 <GodTodd> :D
02:30 <luke-jr|work> ...
02:30 <Vanhayes_> once august 1st comes we gbet cold nights
02:31 <Vanhayes_> get*
02:31 <Lucifer_arma> man, why does imdb crash my browser so much?
02:31 <Lucifer_arma> asshats
02:31 <Vanhayes_> what browser?
02:31 <Lucifer_arma> Vanhayes_: heh, I haven't even started dinner yet
02:31 <Lucifer_arma> firefox
02:31 * GodTodd never has a problem with imdb...
02:31 <Lucifer_arma> it's an ad, I'm sure it is
02:31 <Lucifer_arma> because I can go back to the same page and it works, so it has to be an ad
02:31 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, gotta go do dinner
02:32 * GodTodd did dinner while mowing the lawn :)
02:32 <Vanhayes_> tv.com always crashes opera for me if I click the scroll wheel while a a season episode list is loading
02:32 <GodTodd> well...the actually baking part anyway
02:32 <GodTodd> actual*
02:32 * GodTodd is sounding like spidey...
02:33 <Vanhayes_> go wash the dirty feeling off
02:33 <tramshed> get my balls while you are in there
02:33 <GodTodd> did that after fucking luke-jr|work
02:33 <GodTodd> :D
02:34 <luke-jr|work> liar
02:34 <GodTodd> he's such a slut
02:34 <GodTodd> luke-jr|work: i was talking *about* you not *to* you
02:37 <Stewie-arma> #weather 92037
02:37 <armabot> Stewie-arma: The current temperature in La Jolla Shores, La Jolla, California is 83.5°F (5:40 PM PDT on August 14, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 71.6°F. Pressure: 29.79 in 1008.7 hPa (Falling).
02:37 <Stewie-arma> #more
02:37 <armabot> Stewie-arma: <http://community.livejournal.com/4chan>
02:37 <Stewie-arma> lol yes!
02:44 <luke-jr|work> GodTodd: you're too retarded to figure out that the first implies the second?
02:45 <GodTodd> luke-jr|work: you're too retarded to figure out you're wrong?
02:46 <luke-jr|work> ah, but I'm not
02:46 <GodTodd> sure thing, sparky
02:48 <GodTodd> so, if you tell someone something about another person who is not in the room, you are talking to that person in absentia?
02:49 <PsYkO> i got a question
02:49 <PsYkO> anyone know how to turn off safemode on a webhost?
02:49 <tramshed> what do you mean?
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03:11 <luke-jr|work> spidey: civ??
03:11 <luke-jr|work> Vanhayes_:
03:13 <spidey> ?
03:13 <PsYkO> civ = civilization ftw
03:17 <Vanhayes_> civ= freeciv here
03:17 <Vanhayes_> luke-jr|work: what
03:18 <Vanhayes_> #last --from ghableska --nolimit
03:18 <armabot> Vanhayes_: [20:45:11] <ghableska> #seen ghableska and [20:45:01] <ghableska> #weather 50266
03:18 <Vanhayes_> #weather 50266
03:19 <armabot> Vanhayes_: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 82.0°F (8:19 PM CDT on August 14, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 71.6°F. Pressure: 28.90 in 978.6 hPa (Falling).
03:20 <luke-jr|work> are we playing or not
03:20 <luke-jr|work> lusers
03:20 <luke-jr|work> I will so pwn you
03:20 <luke-jr|work> PsYkO: come play
03:20 <luke-jr|work> do we have a server?
03:20 <Vanhayes_> yoursa
03:21 <Vanhayes_> yours*
03:21 <luke-jr|work> I have one?
03:21 <Vanhayes_> sure
03:21 <Vanhayes_> spidey: ping
03:21 <Vanhayes_> maybe spidey does
03:22 <luke-jr|work> 2.1 this time?
03:23 <luke-jr|work> svn switch svn://svn.gna.org/svn/freeciv/tags/R2_1_0_beta4/
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03:24 <luke-jr|work> ...
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03:25 <luke-jr|work> ........
03:25 <spidey> ya
03:25 <luke-jr|work> 2.1 this time? svn switch svn://svn.gna.org/svn/freeciv/tags/R2_1_0_beta4/
03:25 <Vanhayes> already got that one
03:25 <luke-jr|work> GodTodd: you playing?
03:25 <luke-jr|work> Vanhayes: beta4?
03:25 <spidey> luke
03:25 <luke-jr|work> spidey:
03:25 <spidey> gtfo svn
03:25 <spidey> me and hayes use windows
03:25 <GodTodd> luke-jr|work: stfu
03:25 <luke-jr|work> gtfo windoze
03:25 <luke-jr|work> beta4 is available for windows
03:25 <luke-jr|work> idiot
03:25 <spidey> we're not compiling a fucking windows client just to play 2.1
03:25 <Vanhayes> GodTodd: you playing?
03:26 <spidey> it sucks
03:26 <luke-jr|work> you sucks
03:26 <spidey> me, or todd oculdn't connect to servers
03:26 <spidey> and, i'm not using it
03:26 <luke-jr|work> cuz Luci wasn't running beta4
03:26 <Vanhayes> I have the beta 4 it was on the website
03:27 <spidey> i have it to
03:27 <GodTodd> 2.1 was acting like luke-jr|work coded it
03:27 <spidey> hahha
03:27 <GodTodd> yes, it was *that* bad
03:27 <spidey> indeed
03:28 <luke-jr|work> only cuz you were using diff versions
03:28 <luke-jr|work> we could use beta3?
03:28 <luke-jr|work> or just go to 2.0?
03:28 <spidey> i have 2.0.9 installed already
03:28 <luke-jr|work> fine
03:29 <luke-jr|work> port 5555 a problem?
03:29 <spidey> yes, because you choose it
03:29 <spidey> xD
03:29 <luke-jr|work> I did?
03:29 <luke-jr|work> news to me
03:29 <spidey> just gimme a address
03:30 <spidey> and i call hayes as a ally
03:30 <luke-jr|work> hachi.dashjr.org
03:30 <GodTodd> you must have...cuz 5556 is default
03:30 <spidey> no
03:30 <spidey> 5555 is default
03:30 <luke-jr|work> 5555 is default for 2.0
03:30 <spidey> 5556 is beta default
03:30 <GodTodd> ah
03:30 <GodTodd> i knew it changed somewhere in there
03:31 -!- Stewie-arma is now known as HellBlade-Arma
03:31 -!- HellBlade-Arma is now known as HellBlade
03:31 <luke-jr|work> Vanhayes: GodTodd HellBlade PsYkO
03:31 -!- HellBlade is now known as HellBlade-Arma
03:31 <GodTodd> luke-jr|work: stfu
03:31 <luke-jr|work> Lucifer_arma: Lucifer_bed
03:31 <luke-jr|work> GodTodd:
03:32 <luke-jr|work> mkzelda:
03:32 <luke-jr|work> noob13
03:32 <GodTodd> luke-jr|work: stfu
03:32 <luke-jr|work> noob7_away:
03:32 <GodTodd> luke-jr|work: stfu
03:32 <GodTodd> luke-jr|work: stfu
03:32 <GodTodd> luke-jr|work: stfu
03:32 <luke-jr|work> GodTodd:
03:32 <GodTodd> luke-jr|work: stfu
03:32 <luke-jr|work> tramshed:
03:32 <GodTodd> luke-jr|work: stfu
03:32 <HellBlade-Arma> luke don't be a douche
03:32 <luke-jr|work> HellBlade-Arma: come play
03:33 <spidey> Vanhayes, ping
03:33 <spidey> o
03:33 <HellBlade-Arma> luke-jr|work:what game?
03:33 <Vanhayes> getting there
03:33 <luke-jr|work> HellBlade-Arma: Freeciv 2.0
03:33 <spidey> hayes is probably downloading 2.0.9
03:33 <Vanhayes> no, i have it
03:33 <luke-jr|work> 2.0.8 should work fine too
03:33 <HellBlade-Arma> luke-jr|work:I suck at it
03:33 <luke-jr|work> that's ok
03:33 <HellBlade-Arma> can barely beat bots ^.^
03:33 <luke-jr|work> so do i
03:33 <GodTodd> HellBlade-Arma: so does luke-jr|work
03:33 <GodTodd> :D
03:34 <HellBlade-Arma> sometimes
03:34 <HellBlade-Arma> I'd rather play trem
03:34 <HellBlade-Arma> ^.^
03:35 * GodTodd smells almost as bad as luke-jr|work now...time to shower
03:35 <PsYkO> hellblade ftw
03:35 <PsYkO> http://armagetron.freephpwebhosting.net/4images/
03:35 <HellBlade-Arma> psyko ftw?
03:35 <PsYkO> i just did that all by myself xD
03:35 <PsYkO> its how we are going to upload the Tilt screenshots
03:35 <luke-jr|work> PsYkO: Freeciv!
03:35 <PsYkO> hopefully in the future we can use it for ladle and clan wars etc.
03:36 <PsYkO> wha freeciv wa?
03:36 <luke-jr|work> sucks
03:36 <luke-jr|work> use Gallery2
03:36 <PsYkO> ew
03:36 <HellBlade-Arma> hey psyko have you ever played tremulous?
03:36 <PsYkO> not as effective, noob
03:36 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
03:36 <PsYkO> no
03:36 <HellBlade-Arma> try it
03:36 <luke-jr|work> PsYkO: Freeciv
03:36 <PsYkO> so whats freeciv
03:36 <luke-jr|work> game
03:36 <PsYkO> or tremulous
03:36 <HellBlade-Arma> spidey got me addicted just by saying the name
03:36 <luke-jr|work> go download
03:36 <luke-jr|work> and play
03:36 <PsYkO> they sound inferior to tron
03:36 <luke-jr|work> http://freeciv.org
03:37 <luke-jr|work> Freeciv lasts about 10 hours
03:37 <Vanhayes> freeciv is pretty fun, if you can get a good game going
03:37 <HellBlade-Arma> tremulous anywhere from 80seconds to hours
03:37 <spidey> tron is inferior
03:37 <spidey> whatever that means
03:37 <PsYkO> should i play tremulous
03:37 <spidey> lol
03:37 <PsYkO> or should i play freeciv
03:37 <Vanhayes> a game is 10 hours but we almost never play it straight
03:37 <luke-jr|work> Freeciv
03:37 <HellBlade-Arma> http://tremulous.net/
03:37 <PsYkO> looks like a cheap knockoff of age of empires
03:37 <spidey> trmulous is a mix between a fps and a rts
03:38 <HellBlade-Arma> it's sci fi ;P
03:38 <PsYkO> ew
03:38 <luke-jr|work> http://freeciv.org
03:38 <PsYkO> is this what /b/ is
03:38 <HellBlade-Arma> dude it friggen rocks
03:38 <HellBlade-Arma> no
03:38 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
03:38 <PsYkO> o
03:38 <HellBlade-Arma> nothing like it
03:38 <PsYkO> whats /b/
03:38 <spidey> yup
03:38 <HellBlade-Arma> not alloud to tell you
03:38 <spidey> i'm going to play tremulous no
03:38 <spidey> now
03:39 <HellBlade-Arma> allowed
03:39 <luke-jr|work> :p
03:39 <HellBlade-Arma> I'm going to guess FA layouts server?
03:39 <luke-jr|work> spidey: chicken
03:39 <spidey> don't :p me
03:39 <spidey> HellBlade-Arma, maybe
03:39 <PsYkO> should i download freeciv
03:39 <HellBlade-Arma> psyko type #more
03:39 <spidey> we have 3 servers now
03:39 <spidey> and between them
03:39 <PsYkO> #moore
03:39 <PsYkO> didnt work
03:39 <spidey> they can host over 70 players
03:39 <HellBlade-Arma> no just #more
03:39 <PsYkO> #more
03:39 <armabot> PsYkO: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more. To do so, call this command with that person's nick.
03:39 <HellBlade-Arma> aww
03:39 <PsYkO> owned
03:39 <HellBlade-Arma> it works for me
03:39 <luke-jr|work> PsYkO: hurry up if you're playing
03:39 <PsYkO> i got errored
03:39 <HellBlade-Arma> #moar
03:39 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
03:40 <GodTodd> #more HellBlade-Arma
03:40 <armabot> GodTodd: Error: Sorry, I can't find any mores for HellBlade-Arma
03:40 <HellBlade-Arma> #weather 92037
03:40 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: The current temperature in La Jolla Shores, La Jolla, California is 80.8°F (6:45 PM PDT on August 14, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 69.8°F. Pressure: 29.79 in 1008.7 hPa (Rising).
03:40 <PsYkO> stable
03:40 <PsYkO> or
03:40 <luke-jr|work> PsYkO: before spidey starts spamming again
03:40 <HellBlade-Arma> #more
03:40 <luke-jr|work> 2.0
03:40 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: Error: That's all, there is no more.
03:40 <PsYkO> bataz0rz
03:40 <HellBlade-Arma> awww
03:40 <spidey> i'm not gonna spam
03:40 <HellBlade-Arma> it's not doing it anymore
03:40 <PsYkO> 2.09ftw?
03:40 <spidey> i said i was going to play tremulous now
03:41 <HellBlade-Arma> psyko check it out: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7566762806872244162&q=tremulous&total=212&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
03:41 <Vanhayes> bah too late to start a game, I have to be up at 6
03:41 <PsYkO> no
03:41 <luke-jr|work> chickens
03:41 <PsYkO> 2.09???
03:41 <luke-jr|work> PsYkO: yes
03:41 <PsYkO> news or download
03:41 <luke-jr|work> gee i wonder
03:41 <PsYkO> CAN I BE IN A CLAN?
03:42 <luke-jr|work> but it sounds like spidey and Vanhayes are chickening out
03:42 <luke-jr|work> so probably won't be playing
03:42 <PsYkO> np
03:42 <spidey> if i'm willing to war lucifer
03:42 <spidey> why would i "chicken" out of a game with you?
03:42 <spidey> playing you's like playing a AI
03:42 <Vanhayes> if I didnt have to work at 7 id play but i do so im not
03:42 <PsYkO> luke jr is the sucky?
03:42 <luke-jr|work> spidey: yeah, that's why I was pwning you all last time
03:42 <PsYkO> luke jr u are the nub
03:42 <spidey> only reason i was gonna play is because hayes was
03:42 <HellBlade-Arma> psyko you wuss check out trem
03:43 <Lucifer_arma> heh
03:43 <spidey> he has
03:43 <PsYkO> no
03:43 <spidey> and he sucks
03:43 <spidey> 'er
03:43 <spidey> luke has*
03:43 <luke-jr|work> PsYkO: actually, I think I've been playing the longest in here
03:43 <Lucifer_arma> dinner will be redy soon, which means I"m an hour away from starting at least, if anybody's wanting to play tonight
03:43 <PsYkO> doesnt mean u dont suck
03:43 <spidey> he does
03:43 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr|work: civ?
03:43 <luke-jr|work> Lucifer_arma: ...
03:43 <spidey> we had had to teach him how to play
03:43 <spidey> because we steamrolled him everytime
03:43 * Lucifer_arma brought freeciv to this group...
03:43 <HellBlade-Arma> lol I just starting playing
03:43 <luke-jr|work> ok, so Lucifer_arma did
03:43 <HellBlade-Arma> not me
03:44 <luke-jr|work> I don't remember, doesn't matter anyway
03:44 <HellBlade-Arma> I had started a little bit before I started going on irc again
03:44 <HellBlade-Arma> but haven't played in a long while
03:44 <luke-jr|work> all that matters is if we're playing or not
03:44 <luke-jr|work> :p
03:44 <spidey> i'll play if luci or hayes does
03:44 <spidey> but if luci wants to continue our game, i'm not playing with you
03:44 <HellBlade-Arma> well I'm off to play trem
03:44 * GodTodd was playing civ while luke was in diapers
03:44 <PsYkO> what about if i
03:45 <PsYkO> so no one in the armagetron irc plays armagetron?
03:45 <HellBlade-Arma> I do
03:45 <HellBlade-Arma> ^^
03:45 <PsYkO> since when
03:45 <luke-jr|work> we don't plan it out
03:45 <spidey> i haven't had tron installed for ages
03:45 <spidey> it got boring
03:45 <HellBlade-Arma> that was about the time he started playing trem
03:45 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
03:45 <tramshed> i do, but the new servers are ghey
03:46 <spidey> HellBlade-Arma, trem > tron :p
03:46 <Vanhayes> luke-jr|work: Ive been playing freeciv longer than Ive been playing arma
03:46 <HellBlade-Arma> it is
03:46 <luke-jr|work> Vanhayes: but not tonight?
03:46 <PsYkO> i did nothing but tron and code today
03:46 <Vanhayes> nope
03:46 <PsYkO> how boring
03:46 <luke-jr|work> Vanhayes: lame
03:46 <HellBlade-Arma> /dev/null do you mean high rubber or fort or ctf or all of them?
03:46 <Vanhayes> its 15 to 11 and I have to get up at 6 and be at work at 7
03:46 <PsYkO> is /dev/null from /b/
03:46 <HellBlade-Arma> I don't know
03:46 <HellBlade-Arma> we are anonymous
03:46 <luke-jr|work> Vanhayes: skip sleep
03:46 <PsYkO> how do i get in clan /b/
03:46 <HellBlade-Arma> it's not a clan
03:47 <PsYkO> how about we convert SP to /b/
03:47 <luke-jr|work> PsYkO: you shoot yourself in the foot
03:47 <PsYkO> no
03:47 <HellBlade-Arma> got I'm not even supposed to be talking about this right now
03:47 <Vanhayes> no I;m working 10 days straight, i need sleep
03:47 <PsYkO> im just feeling dumb tonight
03:47 <tramshed> i mean the high rubber
03:47 <PsYkO> is /b/ a religion?
03:47 <tramshed> only clan I was in was woh
03:47 <luke-jr|work> tramshed: civ?
03:47 <HellBlade-Arma> psyko needs to buy a dog if he keeps this up
03:47 <tramshed> never played it
03:47 <luke-jr|work> tramshed: always a first time
03:47 <luke-jr|work> woof
03:47 <PsYkO> hey luke
03:47 <luke-jr|work> PsYkO:
03:47 <tramshed> indeed there is, but im lazy right now
03:47 <luke-jr|work> hey
03:47 <PsYkO> i got an unexpected error
03:48 <luke-jr|work> tramshed: lazy
03:48 <tramshed> im so lazy I wont even switch channels
03:48 <luke-jr|work> PsYkO: sorry
03:48 <PsYkO> no
03:48 <PsYkO> the download owned me
03:48 <tramshed> I was contemplating naptime actually
03:48 <luke-jr|work> no
03:48 <luke-jr|work> your computer sucks
03:48 <PsYkO> no
03:48 <PsYkO> well..yes
03:48 <tramshed> imouyt
03:48 <luke-jr|work> lol
03:48 <PsYkO> dell ftl
03:48 <HellBlade-Arma> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5986867500242500898&q=anonymous+on+fox&total=192&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
03:49 <PsYkO> i unzipped it
03:49 <PsYkO> now wot
03:49 <luke-jr|work> dunno
03:49 <luke-jr|work> next time get the installer I guess
03:51 <PsYkO> go me
03:51 <PsYkO> i downloaded the source code
03:51 <PsYkO> its amazing i go to college
03:51 <PsYkO> im so stupid
03:51 <GodTodd> on linux?
03:53 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, you gonna play civ?
03:53 <HellBlade-Arma> NEVAR!
03:53 <spidey> only way i'm playing with luke :p
03:53 <spidey> since hayes betrayed me :(
03:53 <HellBlade-Arma> doesn't he always
03:53 <Vanhayes> you quit first
03:53 <spidey> lies
03:54 <spidey> i was doing my usual torment luke jig
03:54 <GodTodd> oh...that's easy...
03:54 <spidey> yea
03:54 <spidey> like this
03:54 <Vanhayes> god does not exist
03:54 <GodTodd> evolution is a fact, ftw
03:54 <GodTodd> :D
03:54 <spidey> luke-jr|work, you suck
03:55 <Vanhayes> damn, we know luke too well
03:55 <GodTodd> that's depressing
03:55 <PsYkO> luke jr. is a big fat rook
03:55 <PsYkO> i downloaded teh civ
03:55 <Vanhayes> PsYkO: ever play civilization 1 or 2?
03:56 <PsYkO> age of empires
03:56 <Vanhayes> because freeciv is alot like that
03:56 <PsYkO> one of the best
03:56 <PsYkO> of all time
03:56 <Vanhayes> that should help, but freeciv is alot more in depth, less action, more strategy
03:57 <Vanhayes> well, more long term strategy
03:57 <PsYkO> hopefully its not turn based
03:57 <Vanhayes> heh
03:57 <GodTodd> it is
03:57 <PsYkO> EWWWWW
03:57 <PsYkO> weirdos
03:57 <PsYkO> same with the other game hellblade is playign?
03:58 <Vanhayes> no, thats like quake
03:58 <Vanhayes> It started out as a quake 3 mod, then grew into its own game, iirc
03:58 <PsYkO> o
04:01 <PsYkO> kinda weird, someone saying armagetron is boring yet likes to play a turn based game =_=
04:01 <Vanhayes> anyways, I need sleep
04:01 <PsYkO> nite sweetie
04:01 <Vanhayes> heh
04:01 <Vanhayes> #night
04:01 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
04:01 -!- Vanhayes [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu83w-156034241231.nb.aliant.net] has quit ["Leaving"]
04:02 <PsYkO> #list
04:02 <armabot> PsYkO: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Insult, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
04:02 <PsYkO> #games
04:02 <PsYkO> :(
04:02 <PsYkO> #insult
04:02 <armabot> You are nothing but a petrified stack of motley-mind dog.
04:02 <PsYkO> :'(
04:06 <Hoax-> #kill PsYkO
04:06 <armabot> PsYkO will die on 08:03 PM, July 06, 2007 GMT due to being stabbed in the eye by Hoax-
04:06 <luke-jr|work> PsYkO:
04:07 <xFlex> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiyaaa hoax :P
04:07 <HellBlade-Arma> #q
04:07 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: Quote #8: "master your own mind, otherwise the game will destroy you -- Okgo" (added by n54 at 04:27 PM, March 29, 2006)
04:07 <xFlex> gnnnnn hoax, i'm going bed see you there.xxx
04:08 <HellBlade-Arma> #q
04:08 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: Quote #32: "i2020> sure you can... who told you that, little lukie wookie" (added by spidey at 07:34 PM, November 05, 2006)
04:08 <luke-jr|work> ...
04:08 <luke-jr|work> Server.iZm is no more
04:08 <luke-jr|work> fyi
04:08 <HellBlade-Arma> why?
04:08 <luke-jr|work> he cancelled
04:08 <HellBlade-Arma> oh
04:08 <luke-jr|work> AppleZ, that is
04:08 <HellBlade-Arma> it could only hold 8 people
04:08 <luke-jr|work> that's all he paid for
04:08 <HellBlade-Arma> oh
04:09 <HellBlade-Arma> brb
04:09 <HellBlade-Arma> (again)
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04:10 <luke-jr|work> PsYkO: PsYkO PsYkO
04:10 -!- Hoax- [n=Hoax@dyn-62-56-82-78.dslaccess.co.uk] has quit ["Gone to xFlex's for non homosexual reasons"]
04:11 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, wanna play on my team?
04:11 <spidey> me and you vs luke, PsYkO and the ai?
04:14 <luke-jr|work> aw
04:14 <luke-jr|work> unfair :p
04:15 <spidey> nah
04:15 <spidey> if it was just 1 ai,sure
04:15 <spidey> but i'm proposing 50ai
04:15 <spidey> that'll even it out, maybe
04:15 <luke-jr|work> they're 2.0 AI!
04:15 <luke-jr|work> no way
04:15 <luke-jr|work> even I can totally pwn 2.0 AI
04:15 <spidey> luke
04:15 <spidey> you bribe them
04:15 <spidey> stfu noob
04:16 <luke-jr|work> no, that was you
04:16 <spidey> i did it once
04:16 <spidey> you've done it alot
04:16 <luke-jr|work> never that I can remember
04:16 <spidey> i can remember
04:16 <luke-jr|work> maybe you falsely accused me of it
04:16 <spidey> luke
04:16 <luke-jr|work> ..
04:17 <spidey> there's no such thing as falsely accusing you, anything someone says on you, is true
04:17 <GodTodd> luke-jr|work is a satanist :D
04:17 <spidey> AMEN BROTHA!
04:17 <luke-jr|work> liar
04:18 <HellBlade-Arma> back
04:18 <luke-jr|work> HellBlade-Arma: civ
04:18 <HellBlade-Arma> ...
04:19 <HellBlade-Arma> if I could I would but I can't so I won't
04:21 <luke-jr|work> liar
04:22 <Lucifer_arma> yep, looks like a tropical storm is going to blow by us next week
04:22 <Lucifer_arma> or this week, something like that
04:23 <spidey> O.o
04:23 <luke-jr|work> Lucifer_arma: civ
04:23 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, hachi.dashjr.org
04:23 <spidey> :D
04:23 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: sure, but I have to admit the only reason I'm willing to be on a team is because that's the only way to ensure you start near each other
04:23 <spidey> yay
04:23 <spidey> luke
04:23 <spidey> add me and luci to a team
04:23 <luke-jr|work> no
04:23 <luke-jr|work> ally manually
04:23 <spidey> -.-
04:25 <luke-jr|work> Lucifer_arma: comign?
04:25 * Lucifer_arma considers compiling the warclient real quick
04:25 <Lucifer_arma> eh? right now?
04:25 <luke-jr|work> yes
04:25 <luke-jr|work> we're waiting
04:25 <Lucifer_arma> server?
04:25 <luke-jr|work> spidey just told you
04:30 <Lucifer_arma> is PsYkO (hi there!) there?
04:33 <Lucifer_arma> PsYkO: ping
04:34 <luke-jr|work> do ctcp
04:39 <luke-jr|work> PsYkO:!!!
04:40 <luke-jr|work> #seen psyko
04:40 <armabot> luke-jr|work: psyko was last seen in #armagetron 37 minutes and 29 seconds ago: <PsYkO> :'(
04:40 <luke-jr|work> #lastseen psyko
04:40 <armabot> luke-jr|work: ~*PsYkO*~ seems to be on Wild West =Sumo= right now.
04:40 <luke-jr|work> AHA
04:49 <PsYkO> #lastseen Minefield
04:49 <armabot> PsYkO: Minefield has last been seen on Wild West =Sumo= 36 minutes ago.
04:49 <PsYkO> woot
04:49 <PsYkO> #lastseen Jessica Simpson
04:50 <armabot> PsYkO: timed out
04:57 <luke-jr|work> PsYkO:
05:01 <PsYkO> meh too slow, and not worth my time trying to get good at it
05:02 <Lucifer_arma> we were waiting on you....
05:03 <Lucifer_arma> but ok
05:22 <GodTodd> blergle
05:31 <PsYkO> #lastseen applez
05:31 <armabot> PsYkO: AppleZ has last been seen on -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber< 4 minutes ago.
05:32 <PsYkO> #Lucifer
05:32 <PsYkO> #lastseen Lucifer
05:32 <armabot> PsYkO: timed out
05:32 <PsYkO> #applez
05:32 <PsYkO> #lastseen applez
05:32 <armabot> PsYkO: AppleZ has last been seen on -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber< 5 minutes ago.
05:33 <PsYkO> #lastseen applez
05:33 <armabot> PsYkO: AppleZ has last been seen on -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber< 6 minutes ago.
05:33 <PsYkO> #lastseen applez
05:33 <armabot> PsYkO: AppleZ has last been seen on -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber< 6 minutes ago.
05:34 <PsYkO> #lastseen applez
05:34 <armabot> PsYkO: AppleZ has last been seen on -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber< 7 minutes ago.
05:35 <HellBlade-Arma> psyko wtf you doing?
05:35 <PsYkO> AppleZ has last been seen on -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber< 7 minutes ago.
05:35 <PsYkO> #lastseen applez
05:35 <armabot> PsYkO: AppleZ has last been seen on -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber< 8 minutes ago.
05:35 <PsYkO> stalking
05:35 <PsYkO> #lastseen stewie
05:35 <armabot> PsYkO: Stewie has last been seen on -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < 3 hours 52 minutes ago.
05:35 <PsYkO> #lastseen madmax
05:36 <armabot> PsYkO: madmax has last been seen on Tigers Network Classic Play 4 days 0 hours 10 minutes ago.
05:36 <HellBlade-Arma> wtf?
05:36 <PsYkO> damn max
05:36 <HellBlade-Arma> dude I have an imposter
05:36 <PsYkO> #lastseen mazuffer
05:36 <HellBlade-Arma> I have never been to immortal dynasty
05:36 <armabot> PsYkO: timed out
05:36 <PsYkO> #lastseen x3r
05:36 <armabot> PsYkO: timed out
05:36 <PsYkO> #lastseen Luzifer
05:36 <armabot> PsYkO: Luzifer has last been seen on Fortress Café 1 day 7 hours 37 minutes ago.
05:36 <PsYkO> #lastseen applez
05:36 <HellBlade-Arma> #lastseen Player 1
05:36 <armabot> PsYkO: AppleZ has last been seen on -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber< 9 minutes ago.
05:36 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: Player 1 has last been seen on Wild West =Fortress Shootout= 3 minutes ago.
05:36 <PsYkO> i saw luzifer today ftw
05:36 <HellBlade-Arma> that was me
05:37 <HellBlade-Arma> darn it I have an imposter
05:37 <HellBlade-Arma> I haven't played under Stewie since the tilt
05:37 <PsYkO> probably just a guy named stewart..
05:38 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
05:38 <HellBlade-Arma> #lastseen Player 1
05:38 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: Player 1 has last been seen on Wild West =Fortress Shootout= 5 minutes ago.
05:38 <HellBlade-Arma> yay still the only player 1 there
05:38 <HellBlade-Arma> ^_^
05:39 <HellBlade-Arma> #lastseen hellblade
05:39 <HellBlade-Arma> timeout
05:39 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: timed out
05:39 <HellBlade-Arma> yay
05:39 <HellBlade-Arma> #lastseen ~*Stewie*~
05:39 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: timed out
05:39 <HellBlade-Arma> what?
05:39 <PsYkO> #lastseen gaylord
05:40 <PsYkO> #lastseen applez
05:40 <armabot> PsYkO: timed out
05:40 <armabot> PsYkO: AppleZ has last been seen on -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber< 13 minutes ago.
05:40 <HellBlade-Arma> it can track madmax from 4 days but it can't track me from 2 days
05:40 <PsYkO> #lastseen psyko is gay
05:40 <armabot> PsYkO: timed out
05:40 <HellBlade-Arma> #q
05:40 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: Quote #53: "I missed a little hole the other day, it was embarassing --/dev/null" (added by Lucifer_arma at 05:44 PM, August 10, 2007)
05:40 <HellBlade-Arma> aww that's terrible
05:41 <HellBlade-Arma> #q
05:41 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: Quote #1: "Was this compiled by our friend Sum Ting Wong? --WallyWallWhackr" (added by Lucifer_arma at 06:37 AM, March 24, 2006)
05:41 <HellBlade-Arma> #q
05:41 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: Quote #38: "<GodTodd> hayes jerks off turkeys?" (added by spidey at 01:44 AM, December 13, 2006)
05:41 <HellBlade-Arma> #quote 58
05:41 <HellBlade-Arma> awww
05:41 <HellBlade-Arma> #q 58
05:41 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: Quote #28: "i can't speel either --Fonkay" (added by Lucifer_arma at 07:38 AM, October 28, 2006)
05:41 <GodTodd> #quote get 58
05:41 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #58: "luke, your so cute when you think you are right about some crazy position. - philippeqc2" (added by GodTodd at 03:34 AM, August 13, 2007)
05:41 <HellBlade-Arma> that's the one
05:42 <HellBlade-Arma> we shoulda pulled that one yesterday todd
05:42 <GodTodd> #quote get 21
05:42 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #21: "<Luke-Jr_work__> btw, pedophile is good" (added by spidey at 06:34 AM, September 09, 2006)
05:42 <HellBlade-Arma> any new ones?
05:42 <HellBlade-Arma> #quote get 59
05:42 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: Error: There is no Quote with id #59 in my database for #armagetron.
05:42 <HellBlade-Arma> nope
05:42 <HellBlade-Arma> yay
05:43 <HellBlade-Arma> we need to get tronner working on here again
05:43 * GodTodd is happy he got his music player working
05:43 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
05:43 <HellBlade-Arma> #q
05:43 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: Quote #31: "<Fonkay> #eliza you are stupid <armabot> Fonkay: Why do you say i are stupid?" (added by Vanhayes at 01:05 AM, November 02, 2006)
05:43 <GodTodd> silly me had it in media player mode...you know...cuz it is a *music player*
05:44 <HellBlade-Arma> I forgot about eliza
05:44 <HellBlade-Arma> asp
05:44 <HellBlade-Arma> why would you do that?
05:44 <HellBlade-Arma> gasp**
05:44 <GodTodd> apparently it has to be in usb drive mode to add song to it
05:44 <GodTodd> heh
05:44 <HellBlade-Arma> #weather 92037
05:44 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: The current temperature in La Jolla Shores, La Jolla, California is 80.4°F (8:45 PM PDT on August 14, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 71.6°F. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009.0 hPa (Rising).
05:44 <HellBlade-Arma> that's a lie
05:44 <HellBlade-Arma> it's 80.8
05:45 <HellBlade-Arma> I have my thermometer right outside telling me so
05:45 <GodTodd> silly hong kongers and their cheap, linux supporting music players :)
05:45 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
05:45 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 90.7°F (10:43 PM CDT on August 14, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 69.8°F. Pressure: 29.84 in 1010.4 hPa (Rising). Air pollution watch level Orange in effect for Wednesday...
05:45 <HellBlade-Arma> hmmmm wish I could add that to the quotes
05:45 <HellBlade-Arma> level orange?
05:46 <HellBlade-Arma> gasp
05:46 <GodTodd> #last --from Lucifer_arma --with 7
05:46 <armabot> GodTodd: [00:35:49] <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
05:46 <HellBlade-Arma> #weather 78717
05:46 <GodTodd> #weather 78717
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> join hachi.dashjr.org
05:46 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 82.2°F (10:50 PM CDT on August 14, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 68.0°F. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa (Steady).
05:46 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 82.2°F (10:50 PM CDT on August 14, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 68.0°F. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa (Steady).
05:46 <HellBlade-Arma> lol todd you win
05:46 <GodTodd> armabot loves me
05:46 <GodTodd> i give her good dick :)
05:46 <HellBlade-Arma> that's an lie
05:46 <HellBlade-Arma> #eliza do you love me?
05:46 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: What do you think?
05:46 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
05:47 <HellBlade-Arma> I'll take that as a yes
05:47 <GodTodd> something is wrong with the state of the world...austin is supposed to be hotter than here :/
05:47 <HellBlade-Arma> it's cause it's nighttime
05:48 <GodTodd> nighttime here too...
05:48 <HellBlade-Arma> so
05:48 <HellBlade-Arma> you have slightly more humidity
05:48 <HellBlade-Arma> wouch should only effect it a little bit
05:48 <HellBlade-Arma> hmmm
05:48 <GodTodd> ummm 50 < 62
05:48 <HellBlade-Arma> shhhh
05:49 <HellBlade-Arma> so what if I was looking at them backwards
05:49 <GodTodd> and that almost assures that there's a storm coming in...few hours ago we were at 25% humidity
05:49 <HellBlade-Arma> maybe it's just cause it just is
05:49 <GodTodd> good thing i mowed earlier :)
05:49 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
05:49 <HellBlade-Arma> good thing you didn't was your car earlier :)
05:50 <GodTodd> cars can be washed?
05:50 * GodTodd blinks.
05:50 <HellBlade-Arma> yeah stuff like that happens in california
05:50 <GodTodd> i thought that was what rain was for...
05:50 <HellBlade-Arma> southern california sorry
05:51 <HellBlade-Arma> (excluding la they just get acid)
05:51 <GodTodd> san diego seven day forcast: "76 and mostly sunny"
05:51 <HellBlade-Arma> will be like that through summer too
05:51 <HellBlade-Arma> I mean
05:51 <GodTodd> i know
05:51 <HellBlade-Arma> through winter
05:51 <GodTodd> i know people that have lived there
05:51 <HellBlade-Arma> but then it will be only 70
05:51 <HellBlade-Arma> a very chilly 70
05:52 <GodTodd> i, on the other hand, spent a bunch of time in mesa arizona
05:52 <HellBlade-Arma> SD's 70 is like SFs 55
05:52 <GodTodd> where an 85 degree december day is not newsworthy
05:52 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
05:52 <HellBlade-Arma> so how was it moving to texas then?
05:52 <GodTodd> not as bad as moving to nebraska for a few years then from there to texas :)
05:52 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
05:53 <HellBlade-Arma> I wish it snowed here -.-
05:53 * GodTodd grew up in NM so is pretty used to texas...except for humidity
05:53 * GodTodd got tired of snow the last winter he was in NE when we had 3 feet in 3 weeks
05:53 <GodTodd> that sucked donkey balls
05:54 <HellBlade-Arma> I woulda loved it
05:54 <HellBlade-Arma> did you atleast go snowboarding?
05:54 <GodTodd> nope
05:54 * HellBlade-Arma gasps
05:54 <HellBlade-Arma> why not?
05:54 <GodTodd> ummm...if you can find a hill big enough in nebraska, then i bow to your geographical knowledge ;)
05:55 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
05:55 <HellBlade-Arma> with 3 feet of snow you can make one
05:55 <GodTodd> not stable enough :P
05:55 <HellBlade-Arma> stfu
05:55 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
05:55 <GodTodd> no rly
05:55 <HellBlade-Arma> go to a freaking mountain then
05:55 <HellBlade-Arma> somewhere else
05:55 <GodTodd> 8 hours from there to denver
05:55 <HellBlade-Arma> a said a mountain not a city
05:55 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
05:56 <GodTodd> same thing
05:56 <GodTodd> heh
05:56 <HellBlade-Arma> with 3 feet of snow it is
05:56 <HellBlade-Arma> just go snowboarding on the rooftops ;P
05:56 <GodTodd> heh
05:56 <HellBlade-Arma> I would do it...
05:57 * HellBlade-Arma loves snowboarding
05:57 <GodTodd> you're in SoCal....shouldn't you love surfing?
05:57 <GodTodd> ;)
05:57 <HellBlade-Arma> both...
05:58 <HellBlade-Arma> surfing is year round here
05:58 <HellBlade-Arma> snowboarding is only summmer -.-
05:58 <GodTodd> haha
05:58 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
05:58 <HellBlade-Arma> darn it
05:58 <HellBlade-Arma> why do I keep getting summer and winter mixed up
05:58 <GodTodd> too many aussie friends?
05:58 <HellBlade-Arma> none
05:58 <GodTodd> hmmm...then i dunno
05:58 <GodTodd> :)
05:59 <GodTodd> maybe cuz they look the same in SoCal?
05:59 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
05:59 <GodTodd> :P
05:59 <HellBlade-Arma> this is true
05:59 <HellBlade-Arma> but right now is a summer night
05:59 <HellBlade-Arma> first one all summer lol
06:00 <GodTodd> oh...good...i restarted the server that my supybot is on
06:00 <HellBlade-Arma> you know, I realized today that Canada is pretty much a less political more advanced USA
06:00 <GodTodd> forgot i had been fucking with that box
06:00 <GodTodd> it's cuz they have trees :)
06:00 <HellBlade-Arma> it saddens me....
06:00 <HellBlade-Arma> wait
06:00 <HellBlade-Arma> Socal has tons-o'-trees
06:01 <GodTodd> SoCal == northern mexico :P
06:01 <HellBlade-Arma> socal == tons better than mexica :P
06:01 <HellBlade-Arma> that's right it's a female country now
06:01 <GodTodd> now? wasn't it always?
06:02 <HellBlade-Arma> no you see the o at the end means it's a male
06:02 <HellBlade-Arma> learn your basic spanish man
06:02 <GodTodd> i know basic spanish...
06:02 <GodTodd> taco, burrito, abierto, cerrado
06:02 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
06:02 <GodTodd> no habla Engles
06:03 <GodTodd> Home Depot
06:03 <GodTodd> :D
06:03 <HellBlade-Arma> lol that's spanglish
06:03 <HellBlade-Arma> cmon
06:03 <GodTodd> (that's spanish for a place you hang out looking for a job)
06:04 <GodTodd> at*
06:04 <HellBlade-Arma> this is partially true
06:04 <HellBlade-Arma> but only for mexicans
06:04 <HellBlade-Arma> but only for mexicans
06:04 <HellBlade-Arma> grrrr
06:04 <HellBlade-Arma> I hate when I do that
06:04 * GodTodd was referring to mexicans ;)
06:04 <PsYkO> #lastseen applez
06:04 <HellBlade-Arma> the whole
06:04 <HellBlade-Arma> alt+space thing
06:04 <armabot> PsYkO: AppleZ has last been seen on -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber< 38 minutes ago.
06:04 <PsYkO> #lastseen noobblade
06:05 <HellBlade-Arma> I mean
06:05 <HellBlade-Arma> alt+enter
06:05 <armabot> PsYkO: timed out
06:05 <HellBlade-Arma> Psyko
06:05 <HellBlade-Arma> get
06:05 <HellBlade-Arma> your
06:05 <HellBlade-Arma> act
06:05 <HellBlade-Arma> together
06:05 <HellBlade-Arma> man
06:05 * GodTodd presses alt+enter and watches nothing happen ;)
06:05 <HellBlade-Arma> W??T
06:05 <HellBlade-Arma> uber
06:05 <HellBlade-Arma> spamming
06:05 <HellBlade-Arma> to
06:05 <HellBlade-Arma> the
06:05 <HellBlade-Arma> max
06:06 <HellBlade-Arma> try
06:06 <HellBlade-Arma> alt
06:06 <HellBlade-Arma> +
06:06 <HellBlade-Arma> return
06:06 * GodTodd doesn't have a return key
06:06 <GodTodd> just enter :P
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06:07 <HellBlade-Arma> actually
06:07 <HellBlade-Arma> you
06:07 <HellBlade-Arma> have
06:07 <HellBlade-Arma> to
06:07 <HellBlade-Arma> type
06:07 <HellBlade-Arma> something
06:07 <HellBlade-Arma> then
06:07 <HellBlade-Arma> hit
06:07 <HellBlade-Arma> alt
06:07 <HellBlade-Arma> +
06:07 <HellBlade-Arma> enter
06:07 <HellBlade-Arma> then
06:07 <GodTodd> something
06:07 <HellBlade-Arma> keep
06:07 <HellBlade-Arma> type
06:07 <HellBlade-Arma> something
06:07 <HellBlade-Arma> else
06:07 <HellBlade-Arma> and
06:07 <HellBlade-Arma> repeat
06:07 <HellBlade-Arma> this
06:07 <HellBlade-Arma> until
06:07 <HellBlade-Arma> you
06:07 <GodTodd> something else
06:07 <HellBlade-Arma> are
06:07 <HellBlade-Arma> done
06:07 <HellBlade-Arma> -keep
06:07 <HellBlade-Arma> nothing
06:07 <GodTodd> something else
06:07 <HellBlade-Arma> ?
06:07 <HellBlade-Arma> I
06:07 <HellBlade-Arma> guess
06:07 <HellBlade-Arma> I'm
06:07 <HellBlade-Arma> just
06:08 <HellBlade-Arma> leet
06:08 <GodTodd> something else
06:08 <HellBlade-Arma> l
06:08 <GodTodd> something else
06:08 <HellBlade-Arma> o
06:08 <HellBlade-Arma> l
06:08 <GodTodd> something else
06:08 <GodTodd> something else
06:08 <GodTodd> something else
06:08 <GodTodd> something else
06:08 <GodTodd> something else
06:08 <GodTodd> something elsei just use the up arrow
06:08 <GodTodd> :)
06:08 * GodTodd is on konversation.
06:08 <HellBlade-Arma> brb
06:08 <GodTodd> rbr
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06:17 <HellBlade-Arma> I
06:17 <HellBlade-Arma> am
06:17 <HellBlade-Arma> back
06:17 <HellBlade-Arma> I
06:17 <HellBlade-Arma> still
06:17 <HellBlade-Arma> love
06:17 <HellBlade-Arma> my
06:17 <HellBlade-Arma> hax!
06:18 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o luke-jr|work] by ChanServ
06:20 -!- mode/#armagetron [+b %HellBlade-Arma!*@*] by luke-jr|work
06:20 -!- mode/#armagetron [+b %GodTodd!*@*] by luke-jr|work
06:20 <@luke-jr|work> stfu :)
06:20 -!- mode/#armagetron [-b %GodTodd!*@*] by luke-jr|work
06:20 -!- mode/#armagetron [-b %HellBlade-Arma!*@*] by luke-jr|work
06:20 <HellBlade-Arma> why was that there?
06:20 <DrJoeTron> you jerk :/
06:20 <HellBlade-Arma> yeah
06:21 <HellBlade-Arma> btw luke I found what we shoulda pulled on you yesterday
06:21 <HellBlade-Arma> #quote get 58
06:21 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: Quote #58: "luke, your so cute when you think you are right about some crazy position. - philippeqc2" (added by GodTodd at 03:34 AM, August 13, 2007)
06:21 <HellBlade-Arma> ;P
06:21 <GodTodd> luke-jr|work: wtf has your panties in a bunch?
06:21 <HellBlade-Arma> probably my altenter hax
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06:23 <DrJoeTron> FUCK YOU FroZen
06:23 <HellBlade-Arma> frozen you wanted to talk to me about stuff?
06:23 <FroZen> Yeah
06:23 <FroZen> Do you have a MSN?
06:24 <@luke-jr|work> MSN SUCKS
06:24 <HellBlade-Arma> yeah but.... I am already trying to talk to you privatly
06:24 <HellBlade-Arma> at you aren't responding
06:24 <@luke-jr|work> HellBlade-Arma: are you registered?
06:24 <FroZen> I already have, twice.
06:24 <DrJoeTron> both of your have to be registered
06:25 <DrJoeTron> just fyi
06:25 <DrJoeTron> so go do dat
06:25 <HellBlade-Arma> I am already identified
06:25 <HellBlade-Arma> -NickServ- You have already identified
06:26 <HellBlade-Arma> frozen are you registered?
06:26 <FroZen> I don't think so.
06:26 <HellBlade-Arma> just type /nickserv register (enterpassword)
06:28 <HellBlade-Arma> you registered?
06:28 <FroZen> REGISTER cold
06:28 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
06:28 <FroZen> Ha ha
06:28 <FroZen> Good I used a fake password.
06:28 <HellBlade-Arma> you forgot the /nickserv
06:28 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
06:28 <FroZen> I have to type that every time?
06:28 <HellBlade-Arma> no
06:28 <HellBlade-Arma> but are you registered?
06:28 <FroZen> No
06:28 <HellBlade-Arma> then get registered
06:28 <HellBlade-Arma> gosh
06:28 <FroZen> What's the rush?
06:29 <HellBlade-Arma> I want to know what you wanted to talk to me about...
06:29 <FroZen> Can you change your password after you set it?
06:29 <HellBlade-Arma> I dunno
06:29 <DrJoeTron> you guys cant just say it herE?
06:29 <DrJoeTron> god forbid
06:29 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
06:29 <HellBlade-Arma> I don't think he does
06:29 <HellBlade-Arma> if he couldn't say it in sp serv...
06:29 <DrJoeTron> yeah you can
06:29 <GodTodd> hell no joe...it's top secret terrorist shit ;)
06:29 <DrJoeTron> oh snap
06:29 <DrJoeTron> ur rite
06:30 <HellBlade-Arma> yeah we blow up yellow vans
06:30 <HellBlade-Arma> but I have never tried to change it so I wouldn't know frozen
06:30 <HellBlade-Arma> I wouldn
06:30 <FroZen> What?!
06:30 <HellBlade-Arma> 't say you could
06:30 <GodTodd> yes, you can
06:30 <HellBlade-Arma> okaty
06:30 <HellBlade-Arma> I guess you can
06:30 <FroZen> The nickname [Frozen] is already registered
06:30 <@luke-jr|work> haha
06:31 <HellBlade-Arma> then add -arma to your name
06:31 <HellBlade-Arma> FroZen-arma
06:31 <FroZen> Can you delete that? It was probably me, or someone that is inactive.
06:31 <HellBlade-Arma> we can't
06:31 <HellBlade-Arma> ^.^
06:31 <FroZen> Grrr
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06:31 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
06:31 <HellBlade-Arma> silly frozen
06:31 <HellBlade-Arma> tricks are for kids
06:32 <GodTodd> [2007-08-14 23:37] [Notice] -NickServ- Syntax: SET PASSWORD <newpass>
06:33 <GodTodd> that's how you do it ;)
06:33 <HellBlade-Arma> orly?
06:33 <@luke-jr|work> lol
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06:34 <DrJoeTron> hurf durf
06:34 <GodTodd> yep
06:34 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
06:34 <GodTodd> my thoughts exactly
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06:34 <HellBlade-Arma> FUCKING FROZEN
06:34 <GodTodd> ...would be damn cold
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06:35 <DrJoeTron> DAMN IT FROZEN GOD
06:35 <GodTodd> just use /nick
06:35 <HellBlade-Arma> FUCK YOU FROZEN!
06:35 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
06:35 <GodTodd> sheesh
06:35 <FroZen-Tron> I have to use -Tron in my name.
06:35 <FroZen-Tron> I feel violated.
06:35 <GodTodd> just use /nick
06:35 <GodTodd> just use /nick
06:35 <GodTodd> sheesh
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06:35 <HellBlade-Arma> yeah frozen you can just use /nick (enter new nick)
06:35 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
06:35 <HellBlade-Arma> why not frozen-arma?
06:35 <FroZen> I like to be different.
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06:36 <@luke-jr|work> because frozen is *so* different
06:36 <HellBlade-Arma> lolz
06:36 <HellBlade-Arma> FUCK YOU FROZEN STOP LEAVING!
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06:37 <GodTodd> FUCK YOU HellBlade-Arma, STOP THE FUCKING CUSSING
06:37 <GodTodd> ;)
06:37 * FroZen-arma gasps
06:37 <FroZen-arma> My ears!
06:37 * GodTodd must have typed really loudly then...
06:37 <@luke-jr|work> [04:41:35] <HellBlade-Arma> FUCK YOU FROZEN STOP LEAVING!
06:37 <GodTodd> heh
06:37 <FroZen-arma> Ha ha
06:37 <HellBlade-Arma> FUCK YOU GodTodd, STOP FUCKING CUSSING AT ME
06:37 <FroZen-arma> My eyes!
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06:38 <HellBlade-Arma> FUCKING FROZEN YOUR A BASTARD STOP LEAVING YOU CUNT
06:38 <HellBlade-Arma> sorry
06:38 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
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06:38 <@luke-jr|work> [04:43:23] <HellBlade-Arma> FUCKING FROZEN YOUR A BASTARD STOP LEAVING YOU CUNT
06:39 <FroZen_arma> Why did I want to talk with you again?
06:39 <HellBlade-Arma> I dunno
06:39 <HellBlade-Arma> maybe you should leave again
06:39 <@luke-jr|work> lol
06:39 <FroZen_arma> Yeah
06:39 <HellBlade-Arma> then come back when you know
06:39 <FroZen_arma> Maybe I will remember.
06:39 <FroZen_arma> It was sarcasm.
06:39 <HellBlade-Arma> luke kick him so he will remember
06:39 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
06:40 <HellBlade-Arma> watch he now kicks me
06:40 <HellBlade-Arma> "don't tell me what to do"
06:40 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
06:40 <FroZen_arma> Please wait 120 seconds before using REGISTER again
06:40 <HellBlade-Arma> then wait you r-tard
06:40 <HellBlade-Arma> two minutes isn't that long
06:40 <FroZen_arma> I have waited.
06:40 <FroZen_arma> Longer then two minutes.
06:40 <HellBlade-Arma> then leave...
06:40 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
06:40 <FroZen_arma> I have, many time.
06:41 <FroZen_arma> times*
06:41 <HellBlade-Arma> wait for it
06:41 <HellBlade-Arma> now
06:41 <HellBlade-Arma> lol I kid
06:41 <FroZen_arma> luke
06:42 <DrJoeTron> H
06:42 <DrJoeTron> I
06:42 <DrJoeTron> GUYS
06:42 <DrJoeTron> this isn't aim
06:42 <HellBlade-Arma> I
06:42 <HellBlade-Arma> can
06:42 <HellBlade-Arma> do
06:42 <HellBlade-Arma> it
06:42 <HellBlade-Arma> better
06:42 <HellBlade-Arma> than
06:42 <HellBlade-Arma> you
06:42 <GodTodd> it's not?
06:42 <HellBlade-Arma> DrJoeTron
06:42 <GodTodd> shit
06:42 <DrJoeTron> you can use more than 3 words on one chat string
06:42 <GodTodd> i'm in the wrong place then
06:43 <@luke-jr|work> FroZen_arma:
06:43 <DrJoeTron> i want admins
06:43 <FroZen_arma> I think I got you in a Private Windows, do you see anything?
06:43 <GodTodd> DrJoeTron: ping
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06:43 <HellBlade-Arma> frozen are you registered?
06:43 <@DrJoeTron> sweet thanks
06:43 <@DrJoeTron> pong
06:43 <FroZen_arma> No
06:43 <FroZen_arma> That's probably why.
06:43 <HellBlade-Arma> exactly
06:44 <HellBlade-Arma> that's why you were told to register
06:44 <HellBlade-Arma> so we could talk privatly
06:44 <@luke-jr|work> :
06:44 <@luke-jr|work> p
06:44 <FroZen_arma> I have done it before without registering.
06:44 <HellBlade-Arma> not anymore you wont
06:44 <GodTodd> colon pee to you too luke-jr|work
06:44 <@DrJoeTron> its half past p?
06:44 <@DrJoeTron> P:30
06:44 <GodTodd> inches or feet?
06:45 <GodTodd> either way, that's a pretty impressive stream...
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> ey todd, come take over an ai for awhile
06:45 <@DrJoeTron> meters
06:45 <@luke-jr|work> Lucifer_arma: no
06:45 <@luke-jr|work> you're already winning enough
06:46 <HellBlade-Arma> finally he is registered lol
06:46 <GodTodd> well...that settles it...luke says i can't and i always do what he says ;)
06:46 <HellBlade-Arma> exactly
06:48 <GodTodd> oh..wait...i always do the *opposite* of what he says
06:48 <GodTodd> :)
06:48 <GodTodd> you guys still running 2.0.9?
06:48 <@luke-jr|work> no
06:48 <HellBlade-Arma> no I'm not playing freeciv
06:49 <GodTodd> #last --with hachi
06:49 <armabot> GodTodd: [05:51:04] <Lucifer_arma> join hachi.dashjr.org
06:53 <GodTodd> oh well...guess luke's just chickenshit :)
06:54 <GodTodd> btw luke-jr|work refrain from pinging me anymore for any civ game that you're going to be in
06:56 <@luke-jr|work> GodTodd: ping
06:57 <GodTodd> stfu chicken :)
06:59 <@luke-jr|work> GodTodd: ping
07:01 <@luke-jr|work> :p
07:01 * GodTodd goes to play a local freeciv game...more challenging on easy than playing against luke-jr|work anyway
07:01 <@luke-jr|work> GodTodd: would *you* go pick a fight with 3 mass murderers?
07:01 <@luke-jr|work> at once
07:01 * GodTodd refuses to play these childish games
07:02 <GodTodd> luke-jr|work: just do me a favor and go extinct, would you?
07:03 <GodTodd> serously tho...don't try and get me to play in a civ game with you anymore
07:03 <@luke-jr|work> because you can't handle a fair game?
07:04 <GodTodd> me joining is unfair?
07:04 <@luke-jr|work> yes
07:04 <@luke-jr|work> very
07:04 <GodTodd> fine
07:04 <@luke-jr|work> 2 vs 1 is already unfair
07:04 <GodTodd> then don't ping me for civ anymore
07:04 <GodTodd> simple enough
07:04 <@luke-jr|work> 3 vs 1 is just plain ridiculous
07:04 <@luke-jr|work> especially when the game's already 675 BC and the lone guy is being pwnt
07:05 <GodTodd> i've said what i wanted to say
07:05 <GodTodd> you can stfu now
07:05 <@luke-jr|work> you've said you don't want to play fair
07:05 <@luke-jr|work> that's about it
07:06 <GodTodd> show me where i said that
07:06 <GodTodd> stupid fucker
07:06 <@luke-jr|work> the past 10 min
07:06 <GodTodd> show me
07:06 <GodTodd> you are the only one that said that
07:06 <GodTodd> all i said is i won't play civ with you
07:07 <FroZen_arma> So hostile...
07:07 <GodTodd> under any circumstances
07:07 <GodTodd> ever
07:07 <@luke-jr|work> your reason being that I won't let you cheat
07:07 <GodTodd> how was i going to cheat?
07:07 <@luke-jr|work> by making an already unfair game ridiculously unfair
07:07 <GodTodd> how?
07:08 <@luke-jr|work> I already went over that
07:08 <GodTodd> i hadn't even gotten a chance to join...hard to cheat when the child running the server throws a hissy and won't let you join
07:08 <@luke-jr|work> your joining would be cheating
07:08 <GodTodd> fine
07:08 <GodTodd> so don't ever ping me for civ again
07:08 <@luke-jr|work> I will
07:08 <GodTodd> so i won't cheat by joining a game
07:09 <GodTodd> np
07:09 <HellBlade-Arma> you're cheating todd
07:09 <GodTodd> ignore works well
07:09 <@luke-jr|work> #echo does it?
07:09 <armabot> does it?
07:09 <HellBlade-Arma> lol todd
07:09 <HellBlade-Arma> that's terrible
07:11 * GodTodd notes that luke is probably trying to use armabot...but she can be ignored too...
07:11 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
07:11 <HellBlade-Arma> he was
07:11 * GodTodd also notes he has other channels and another bot...so losing armabot functionality is not crippling ;)
07:12 <HellBlade-Arma> rofl
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07:27 <HellBlade-Arma> [04:43:23] <HellBlade-Arma> FUCKING FROZEN YOUR A BASTARD STOP LEAVING YOU CUNT
07:42 <GodTodd> so...anywho ;)
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10:07 <MrBougo> hello
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11:21 <MrBougo> bye
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13:35 <MrBougo> watcha guys think about ndiswrapper?
13:40 <tramshed> i think my balls are sweaty
13:41 <tramshed> and you need ndiswrapper to do all sorts of crap on windows
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13:53 <epsy> hi
13:53 <tramshed> smeg.
13:53 <epsy> hay tramshed
13:53 * epsy has no idea
13:54 <tramshed> you dont need ideas.
13:54 <epsy> ok.
13:54 <tramshed> plaguarism pwns.
13:54 <epsy> :D
13:55 * epsy looks how instant chats are done
14:00 <MrBougo> ?
14:01 <epsy> ??
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15:51 <MrBougo> DrJoeTron: op?
15:51 <MrBougo> why? :p
15:51 <MrBougo> you aint on the access list
15:51 <MrBougo> TAKEOVERRRR
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16:27 <HellBlade-Arma> /dev/null
16:28 <HellBlade-Arma> /dev/null
16:28 <HellBlade-Arma> grrr
16:28 <HellBlade-Arma> nvm
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16:29 <HellBlade-work> #bye
16:29 <armabot> Goodbye HellBlade-work :(
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17:30 <tramshed> ?
17:31 <epsy> ??
17:31 <epsy> http://epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539/~epsy/screenshots/arma-team/screenshot_237.png
17:35 <tramshed> thats a crapload of chat
17:38 <epsy> hehe
17:39 <epsy> http://epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539/~epsy/screenshots/arma-team/screenshot_234.png
17:39 <epsy> nice score from me heh
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18:23 <Lucifer_arma> it's now Tropical Storm Erin that's supposed to hit us tomorrow
18:24 <GodTodd> is it going to make its way north any?
18:26 <Lucifer_arma> beats me, but it still looks like it's mostly hitting south texas
18:26 <Lucifer_arma> which for some reason includes austin this time (it usually doesn't, when they say "south texas" it usually means San Antone and below)
18:26 <GodTodd> hmmm...we might get residual rain then
18:28 <Lucifer_arma> there isn't really enough time for Erin to become a hurricane, luckily, since it's suposed to make landfall tonight, but they had previously said it wouldn't develop into a tropical storm anyway
18:28 <Lucifer_arma> so I guess we'll see :)
18:28 <GodTodd> heh
18:29 <Lucifer_arma> I'm expeccting some nasty winds and lots of rain, but the only danger looks to be flooding, and we're already practiced on what to do about that from early this summer
18:29 <GodTodd> grrr...i think i'ma have to buy most of my fall books new :/
18:29 <Lucifer_arma> that sucks
18:29 <Lucifer_arma> this is the first semester for me where I'm going to have to lay out significant cash for books
18:29 <GodTodd> new version of the government book...physics book is changing for the fall...so those two will definitely have to be new
18:30 <Lucifer_arma> I'm going to see if my chem teacher will let me use my chem book (it's from a few semesters back), and hope that my comp 2 teacher uses the book I bought for comp 2 last spring
18:30 <GodTodd> this past spring?
18:30 <Lucifer_arma> otherwise, I could have to pay out for those, which I don't really want to do. I need a statics book still, and then I don't know if speech wants a textbook or not
18:30 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, this past spring. I'm pretty sure they'll use the same book
18:31 <GodTodd> they should
18:31 <Lucifer_arma> it's just a collection of short stories, so it's not like there's much in new editions when they're made
18:31 <Lucifer_arma> hey, there's going to a be a storm named Rebecca this year :)
18:31 <Lucifer_arma> (well, Rebekah, anyway)
18:32 <GodTodd> only two classes i have a good shot at used books for are data structures (if they don't get retarded and update for 1.6) and humanities
18:32 <GodTodd> is there?
18:32 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, well, we have to get through letters F-P first, of course
18:32 <GodTodd> yep
18:33 <Lucifer_arma> but there's two tropical storms going in the atlantic and one in the pacific right now
18:33 <GodTodd> what about Q? they could call one Queen Latifah
18:33 <GodTodd> ;;)
18:33 <Lucifer_arma> (pacific not counting for names)
18:33 <Lucifer_arma> heh
18:33 <Lucifer_arma> nothing after T either
18:33 <Lucifer_arma> they stucck to the most commonly used letters, I think
18:34 <GodTodd> hrmm...V is a common letter for female names...
18:34 <Lucifer_arma> I'm only thinking of one
18:34 <Lucifer_arma> and that's my duaghter's name
18:34 <GodTodd> Victoria (and derivatives), Valerie
18:34 <GodTodd> that's off the top of my head
18:35 <GodTodd> hrmm...if Vicki is a derivative of Victoria, is Victoria the integral of Vicki?
18:36 <GodTodd> and i know they use W
18:37 <GodTodd> had to explain to a lot of people a few years ago that Wilma was mean to the internet
18:38 <Lucifer_arma> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropical_cyclone_naming
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18:48 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.weather.com/newscenter/tropical/?from=wxcenter_news
18:49 <GodTodd> ok...so they do use V and W
18:49 <GodTodd> :)
18:50 <Lucifer_arma> I think derivative is one of those words like theory
18:50 <Lucifer_arma> colloquially it means something different
18:50 <Lucifer_arma> derivative in math doesn't really resemble something that is colloquially a derivative
18:51 <Lucifer_arma> because when you look at it, the function is comprised of derivatives, and couldn't exist without them. so it's like the derivative is a part of the function, and colloquially "derivative" is the other way around
18:52 <Lucifer_arma> maybe that's why it's so confusing for so many people
18:52 <Lucifer_arma> man, these projected storm path graphics are horrible
18:53 <Lucifer_arma> they totally obfuscate the map itself, which is the part I really want ot know!
18:56 <GodTodd> yeah...i was joking on the derivative thing :P
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20:32 <MrBougo> hiho p4
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21:19 <Stempo> #weather 85747
21:19 <armabot> Stempo: The current temperature in Fast Horse Ranch, Vail, Arizona is 94.8°F (12:19 PM MST on August 15, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 31%. Dew Point: 59.0°F. Pressure: 29.25 in 990.4 hPa (Falling).
21:19 <MrBougo> #weather 1200
21:19 <armabot> MrBougo: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
21:19 <MrBougo> #weather brussels
21:19 <armabot> MrBougo: Temperature: 70°F / 21°C | Humidity: 78% | Pressure: 29.53in / 1000hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h | Updated: 8:50 PM CEST; Chance of Rain. High:77 ° F. / 25 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:60 ° F. / 16 ° C.; Chance of Rain. High:68 ° F. / 20 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:53 ° F. / 12 ° C.; Chance of Rain. High:66 ° F. / 19 ° C.; Chance of Rain. (1 more message)
21:20 <Stempo> :)
21:20 <MrBougo> error 500? thats forbidden?
21:20 <Stempo> MrBoto ? :(
21:20 <Stempo> you missed a number I think
21:21 <MrBougo> ew
21:21 <MrBougo> 1200 is my zipcode
21:21 <Stempo> :)
21:21 <Stempo> :O
21:21 <MrBougo> its belgian
21:21 <MrBougo> mrboto isnt here
21:21 <Stempo> :(
21:21 <Stempo> #cnn 85747
21:21 <armabot> Stempo: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
21:21 <Stempo> aww
21:23 <MrBougo> #cnn
21:23 <armabot> MrBougo: (cnn <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city.
21:23 <MrBougo> #cnn brussels
21:23 <armabot> MrBougo: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
21:23 <MrBougo> weee
21:23 <MrBougo> #weather
21:23 <armabot> MrBougo: (weather <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city.
21:23 <MrBougo> whats the differnece
21:25 <Stempo> dunno
21:25 <MrBougo> cyas
21:25 <Stempo> gives me a dif. location
21:25 <Stempo> cu :(
21:25 <MrBougo> nignht
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21:25 <Stempo> g'night
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21:41 <epsy> does the scripting engine actually work ?
21:42 <epsy> #cnn paris
21:42 <armabot> epsy: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
21:42 <epsy> #weather paris france
21:42 <armabot> epsy: The current temperature in Paris, France is 66.2°F (9:30 PM CEST on August 15, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 62.6°F. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady).
21:42 <epsy> :)
21:46 <P4> #weather katowice
21:46 <armabot> P4: The current temperature in Katowice, Poland is 75.2°F (9:30 PM CEST on August 15, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 60.8°F. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady).
21:47 <P4> #finc 66.2
21:47 <armabot> P4: 19
21:50 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
21:50 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Near Custer and Parker, Plano, Texas is 100.9°F (2:55 PM CDT on August 15, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 28%. Dew Point: 62.6°F. Pressure: 31.01 in 1050.0 hPa (Steady). Air pollution watch level red in effect for today...
21:50 <GodTodd> #finc 100.9
21:50 <armabot> GodTodd: 38.2777777778
22:10 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
22:10 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 93.9°F (3:11 PM CDT on August 15, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 71.6°F. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa (Falling).
22:10 <Lucifer_arma> heh, it's lower than that
22:10 <Lucifer_arma> the storm just got here
22:11 <Lucifer_arma> at least, the thunderstorms on the edges that the storm is pushing out of its way are here
22:13 <Lucifer_arma> looks like they're expecting the body of the storm to hit tomorrow morning
22:13 <Lucifer_arma> yippe
22:13 <Lucifer_arma> *yippee
22:14 <Lucifer_arma> epsy: yes, but I don't know whether or not its useful
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22:40 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
22:40 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 83.5°F (3:45 PM CDT on August 15, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 75.2°F. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009.0 hPa (Falling).
22:40 <Lucifer_arma> wow, dropped 10 degrees in 20 minutes
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22:58 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/mount-a-remote-folder-using-ssh-on-ubuntu.html
23:03 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
23:04 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Near Custer and Parker, Plano, Texas is 102.0°F (4:09 PM CDT on August 15, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 26%. Dew Point: 60.8°F. Pressure: 31.01 in 1050.0 hPa (Falling). Air pollution watch level Orange in effect for Thursday...
23:04 <GodTodd> :/
23:04 <BedMan> #weather 80226
23:04 <armabot> BedMan: The current temperature in Wadsworth Station, Lakewood, Colorado is 75.7°F (3:03 PM MDT on August 15, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 57.2°F. Pressure: 29.73 in 1006.7 hPa (Falling).
23:04 <BedMan> nice out today... :-)
23:07 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
23:07 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 61°F / 16°C | Humidity: 68% | Pressure: 29.86in / 1011hPa | Conditions: Light Rain Showers | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 17mph / 28km/h | Updated: 6:00 PM ADT; Tonight - A few showers ending this evening then cloudy periods. Risk of a thundershower. Amount 5 mm(0.2 in). Fog patches developing overnight. Wind southwest 30 km/h (19 mph) becoming light this evening. Low (2 more messages)
23:07 <tramshed> #weather heaven
23:07 <armabot> tramshed: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
23:07 <Vanhayes> #weather hell
23:07 <tramshed> haha
23:07 <armabot> Vanhayes: The current temperature in Baseline Lake, Pinckney, Michigan is 75.6°F (5:08 PM EDT on August 15, 2007). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 68.0°F. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Steady).
23:07 <tramshed> there is a hell michigan.
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23:14 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
23:14 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 81.1°F (4:16 PM CDT on August 15, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 71.6°F. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009.0 hPa (Falling). Flash Flood Watch in effect from late tonight through Friday morning...
23:18 <Lucifer_arma> skill is the answer to my question from awhile back
23:18 <Lucifer_arma> how to kill a user :)
23:18 <Lucifer_arma> skill -KILL -u godtodd
23:18 <Lucifer_arma> ;)
23:18 * Lucifer_arma hopes he just successfully limited login times for his kids
23:47 <tramshed> your kid is gonna r00t your box.
23:47 <tramshed> parentpwned.
23:48 <Lucifer_arma> not while they still call a user account a "website"
23:48 <tramshed> its a front
23:48 <tramshed> your kids really have mad l33t skillz.
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00:04 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I think I'm ready to put kubuntu on my laptop
00:04 <Lucifer_arma> well, after I burn a disc for it
00:14 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.org/index.php
00:14 <spidey> :D
00:18 <HellBlade-work> lol spidey
00:18 <spidey> ?
00:18 <HellBlade-work> you and your trem clan...
00:18 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.org/servers.php
00:18 <spidey> not just trem...
00:18 <HellBlade-work> what other games do they play?
00:19 <spidey> ...
00:19 <spidey> link^^
00:19 * HellBlade-work <----- Lazy!
00:19 <HellBlade-work> woops I'm not at work anymore
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00:22 <HellBlade-arma> I haven't seen any FA's on arma...
00:23 <spidey> you haven't looked? :p
00:23 <HellBlade-arma> and yet they have 7 servers -.-
00:23 <spidey> they're there
00:23 <HellBlade-arma> orly?
00:23 <spidey> yea
00:23 <spidey> arrange servers by server name
00:23 <spidey> goto the very bottom
00:23 <spidey> then you'll see them, if you press up enough
00:24 <HellBlade-arma> but I haven't seen any players...
00:25 <epsy> rofl...the 72 instant chats thingy worked
00:25 <HellBlade-arma> and the only person I recognize on the members list for tron is Maz
00:26 <HellBlade-arma> and you
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00:32 <spidey> maz ins't a tron member :p
00:32 <spidey> he's only fa under soldat
00:37 <epsy> src/engine/ePlayer.h:
00:37 <epsy> 31 #ifndef MAX_INSTANT_CHAT
00:37 <epsy> 32 #define MAX_INSTANT_CHAT 72
00:37 <epsy> 33 #endif
00:37 <epsy> hrhr
00:37 <epsy> cu
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01:26 <PsYkO> http://images.armagetron.co.uk/4images/index.php
01:26 <PsYkO> check it out duuuuuuude
01:28 <PsYkO> #psyko
01:28 <PsYkO> #lastseen psyko
01:28 <armabot> PsYkO: ~*PsYkO*~ has last been seen on ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Fortress {100MBit} 2 hours 17 minutes ago.
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02:04 <Lucifer_arma> grrrr
02:04 <Lucifer_arma> no wireless on my laptop now :(
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02:26 <GodTodd> #later tell Lucifer_arma what'd you do to lose wireless on the laptop?
02:26 <armabot> GodTodd: The operation succeeded.
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02:28 <Lucifer_arma> yay, got wireless working again, I think
02:29 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: installed Kubuntu :)
02:30 <GodTodd> haha
02:30 <GodTodd> just use the windows driver
02:30 <GodTodd> :)
02:31 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah sure, I'm all over it
02:31 <Lucifer_arma> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper <--- the page that finally got it working
02:31 <GodTodd> i think that's the one i used
02:31 <Lucifer_arma> alright, so now I'm totally on the same OS and version on all computers
02:32 <Lucifer_arma> for the first time ever!
02:32 <Lucifer_arma> ;)
02:48 <Lucifer_arma> hey cool, the firefox extensions I installed still work
02:48 <@DrJoeTron> hai
02:51 <Lucifer_arma> hi
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02:55 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, ping
02:56 <spidey> care to teach me a 5 second iptable lesson? :D
02:57 <spidey> niptables -A INPUT -s iphere -j DROP
02:57 <tramshed> DONT DO IT
02:57 <spidey> that drops connections from a ipright?
02:57 <spidey> but, what about subnet drops?
02:57 <tramshed> it erases your hard drives.
02:59 <spidey> ...
03:00 <xfroggy> expat blows
03:00 <xfroggy> oh wait
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03:49 <Lucifer_arma> #ping
03:49 <armabot> pong
03:49 <Lucifer_arma> #ping
03:49 <armabot> pong
03:49 <Lucifer_arma> lag 1 s?
04:00 <spidey> #pong
04:01 <spidey> #ping
04:01 <armabot> pong
04:01 <spidey> .3 sec lag
04:01 <spidey> :D
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04:32 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
04:32 <HellBlade-Arma> just pwnt on trem
04:32 <HellBlade-Arma> http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/7830/picture1cc9.png
04:33 <xfroggy_> hell!
04:34 <HellBlade-Arma> yeah?
04:34 <xfroggy_> sup /b/rotha
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04:34 <HellBlade-Arma> cough first rule x
04:34 <xfroggy> and 2nd
04:34 <xfroggy> w00t, I am an outlaw!!! >:D
04:34 <HellBlade-Arma> blahblahblah
04:34 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
04:34 <xfroggy> :D
04:34 <HellBlade-Arma> I'ma report you, you better buy a dog
04:34 <xfroggy> Oo
04:34 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
04:35 <xfroggy> damn Ima need to feed that thing :S
04:35 <xfroggy> what game is that ^
04:35 <HellBlade-Arma> watch out we're going to need to blow up a yellow van
04:35 <HellBlade-Arma> it's tremulous
04:35 <Vanhayes> pong
04:35 <HellBlade-Arma> ping Vanhayes
04:36 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
04:36 <Vanhayes> already pinged me with that "yellow van" comment :)
04:36 <HellBlade-Arma> rofl
04:36 <xfroggy> LOL
04:36 <HellBlade-Arma> van are you from the internets?
04:37 <Vanhayes> im from canada, 17 of us have the internet here
04:37 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
04:37 <xfroggy> rofl
04:37 <HellBlade-Arma> #weather 92037
04:37 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: The current temperature in La Jolla Shores, La Jolla, California is 81.0°F (7:39 PM PDT on August 15, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 69.8°F. Pressure: 29.76 in 1007.7 hPa (Rising).
04:37 <HellBlade-Arma> woot
04:37 <HellBlade-Arma> 81
04:37 <HellBlade-Arma> finally it's summer
04:37 <xfroggy> Oo
04:37 <xfroggy> #weather 33065
04:37 <armabot> xfroggy: The current temperature in K9PI Coral Springs, FL, Coral Springs, Florida is 83.8°F (10:42 PM EDT on August 15, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 73.4°F. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Rising).
04:37 <xfroggy> beat ya =P
04:37 <xfroggy> 83.8
04:38 * xfroggy is waiting for the hurricane :D
04:38 <HellBlade-Arma> yay but this is like the second or third actual summer day here
04:38 <xfroggy> lol
04:38 <HellBlade-Arma> it's been around 72-77 here for all of summer
04:38 <xfroggy> Oo
04:38 <xfroggy> jeez
04:38 <xfroggy> been over 100 on some days Oo
04:39 <xfroggy> lets trade places =P
04:39 <HellBlade-Arma> yeah dude I was just chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool, playin' some b-ball out side of the school
04:39 <HellBlade-Arma> when a couple of guys who were up to no good
04:39 <xfroggy> haha xD
04:39 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
04:39 <HellBlade-Arma> started makin trouble in mah neighbor hood
04:39 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 57°F / 14°C | Humidity: N/A% | Pressure: -9999.00in / -9999hPa | Conditions: Mist | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h | Updated: 11:23 PM ADT; Tonight - A few showers ending this evening then cloudy periods. Risk of a thundershower. Amount 5 mm(0.2 in). Fog patches developing overnight. Wind southwest 30 km/h (19 mph) becoming light this evening. Low 12C(54F).; (2 more messages)
04:39 <HellBlade-Arma> I got in one little fight and my mom got scared
04:40 <HellBlade-Arma> she said you're movin with your aunti and uncle in bel air
04:40 <HellBlade-Arma> *music plays*
04:40 <xfroggy> *pushes power button to off position*
04:40 <HellBlade-Arma> I wistled for a cab and when it came near the listens plate said fresh and it had dice in the mirror
04:40 <xfroggy> O_o, button broke again ^_^
04:41 <HellBlade-Arma> if anything I could say that this cab is rare, but I thought naw forget it yo homes to bel air
04:41 <HellBlade-Arma> *music plays some more*
04:41 <xfroggy> ^_^
04:41 <HellBlade-Arma> pulled up to the house about 7 or 8 and I yelled to the cabbie yo homes smell ya letta
04:42 <HellBlade-Arma> and I looked at my kingdom, I was finally there to sit on my thrown as the prince of bel air
04:42 <HellBlade-Arma> *end credits*
04:43 <HellBlade-Arma> lol yall just got bel-aired
04:45 <HellBlade-Arma> lol have any of you heard Jacksonville by Sufjan Stevens?
04:46 <HellBlade-Arma> #q
04:46 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: Quote #14: "On a full moon, Christopher Walken transform in a wereworm. Not as dangerous as a werewolf, but twice as cunning. - philippeqc" (added by n54 at 07:58 PM, April 25, 2006)
04:48 <xfroggy> lol man vs wild guy caught :D
04:51 <HellBlade-Arma> http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/compiling.png
04:52 <xfroggy> haha :D
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05:29 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
05:29 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 81.1°F (10:31 PM CDT on August 15, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 71.6°F. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009.0 hPa (Rising). Flash Flood Watch in effect from 4 am CDT Thursday through Friday morning...
05:29 <HellBlade-Arma> #weather 92037
05:29 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: The current temperature in La Jolla Shores, La Jolla, California is 80.8°F (8:29 PM PDT on August 15, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 69.8°F. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008.0 hPa (Rising).
05:29 <HellBlade-Arma> lol luci somethings wrong
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> ?
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> why do you say that?
05:30 <HellBlade-Arma> I'm in so cal, your in texas, and we are but .4?F off...
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, we should be near 100F right now, but we're not
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> mostly because there's a tropical storm beating on the door tonight
05:31 <HellBlade-Arma> lucky!
05:31 <HellBlade-Arma> I want a storm -.-
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> the edges should pass over us in about 12 hours
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> heh
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> you know a tropical storm is like a weak hurricane, right?
05:31 <HellBlade-Arma> yeah
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> we've already flooded a whole bunch this summer, we don't need more rain, but I"ll appreciate the cool air that comes in
05:31 <HellBlade-Arma> can you throw some my way?
05:32 <HellBlade-Arma> grrr I'm sad right now
05:33 <HellBlade-Arma> I was supposed to go to Wednesday Night Worship but I couldn't get a ride -.-
05:34 <HellBlade-Arma> and I'm listening to Piano Man which makes me even more sad -.- lol
05:35 <HellBlade-Arma> where's DrJoe?
05:35 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
05:35 <HellBlade-Arma> ping xfroggy
05:36 <HellBlade-Arma> lol 0.33 seconds to get all the way across USA, socal to florida
05:37 <HellBlade-Arma> anyone watch Dr. Who?
05:38 <HellBlade-Arma> /monologues on
06:13 * Lucifer_arma wonders why people can't worship by themselves if they want to worship so badly
06:14 * Lucifer_arma notices the similarity between the word "worship" and "warship"
06:18 * GodTodd worships by himself...if you can call it worship ;)
06:19 * Lucifer_arma just worships himself.
06:19 <Lucifer_arma> I finally saw the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy movie
06:19 <GodTodd> meh
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> I take it you saw it, too?
06:20 <GodTodd> while back
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> well, I don't think they screwed it up that badly
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> here's what I figure. :)
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> I think they did the best job they could have done.
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> Problem is, they didn't have the right eccentric to finish it up, so whenever they were confronted with things like "We've got to trim 5 minutes from the bulldozer sequence", they had to figure it out completely on their own
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> and any last-minute script revisions had to be done by someone else, someone who wasn't familliar with the story at all
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> enough situations like that, and you'd easily whittle away a large part of what makes the story so interesting in the first place
06:22 <GodTodd> nah...they did ok...that's why i said "meh" and not "OMFGHAXORZ NOOOO!!"
06:22 <GodTodd> ;)
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> hammer and tong had never made a full-length feature anymore, so they definitely would have faced a lot of situations they'd never seen before
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> so yeah, I think it was a good, reverent interpretation of the story, but I don't think it's the movie Douglas Adams would have made
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> even if he provided the story they used
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> and it was definitely a fun twist when Marvin fired hte point of view gun at the vogons :)
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> the idea slapper things on vogsphere were pretty awesome, too :)
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> still, I really badly wanted to see Marvin fight the tank at the HHGTTG headquarters building, and the frogstar fighters take the building
06:25 <GodTodd> heh
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> I feel cheated that wasn't in there
06:25 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, i've started working on a newish game panel
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: oh yeah?
06:26 <spidey> though, you'd cut my head off if you seen how i was coding it now
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: I've got my laptop switched out to kubuntu again :)
06:28 <spidey> here's a example of how i'm doing it now
06:28 <Vanhayes> #night
06:28 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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06:29 <spidey> http://pastebin.ca/659197
06:29 <spidey> i'm only after it working, for now
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm amazed. suspend and hibernate work, finally
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> now I'm a have to see what that gets me :)
06:33 <spidey> heh
06:33 <spidey> i'm on the hard part =o
06:33 <spidey> php craps out when i use `cat .pid` :(
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> ok, why would I want to suspend/hibernate my computer?
06:34 <GodTodd> you don't?
06:34 <spidey> save on electric bill?
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> well, it's a laptop
06:34 <spidey> rofl
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> this is the first time linux has ever done it, so now I'd like to know why I would want to
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> like, if I suspend, is it now safe to put in my backpack and carry it off somewhere?
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> I'll have to time how long it takes to go into hibernation and then come out of it, and compare it to just shutting down like normal
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> I suppose I could say "hiberrnate" and then pack it up right away, it'll be shut down by the time it overheats
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> ah, oops
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> in rebooting my server I forgot it was also my main dns server
06:40 <spidey> haha
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> I'll need to fix that so it'll direct clients to the router for backup dns service
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> but man, with my own dns server, dns lookups are like waaay fast compared to the router
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I'll be rebooting again in a few minutes :)
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06:50 <Lucifer_arma> re
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07:24 <xfroggy> HellBlade-Arma, ping
07:32 <HellBlade-Arma> xfroggy, ping
07:32 <xfroggy> HellBlade-Arma, ping
07:33 <HellBlade-Arma> pong
07:33 <HellBlade-Arma> xfroggy, ping
07:33 <xfroggy> HellBlade-Arma, :D
07:34 <HellBlade-Arma> X why are you froggy?
07:34 <HellBlade-Arma> and btw you need to register
07:34 <HellBlade-Arma> so I can actually know whether or not you have said anything
07:35 <xfroggy> i am registered -.-
07:35 <HellBlade-Arma> are you identified?
07:36 <xfroggy> yup
07:36 <HellBlade-Arma> there we go, now you are
07:36 <xfroggy> fbi got my fingerprints
07:36 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
07:36 <HellBlade-Arma> I meant on here
07:36 <xfroggy> Oo
07:36 <xfroggy> I will mail my fingerprints to Luci soon
07:36 <HellBlade-Arma> your whole /nickserv identify (password) thing
07:36 <HellBlade-Arma> he's not the fbi
07:37 <xfroggy> O_o
07:37 <xfroggy> omg
07:37 <xfroggy> now I'm going to be framed!
07:37 <HellBlade-Arma> but he does have a dog
07:37 <HellBlade-Arma> and a tracker phone
07:37 <xfroggy> O_o
07:37 <HellBlade-Arma> and a hacker son...
07:37 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
07:37 <xfroggy> hmm
07:37 <xfroggy> but
07:37 <xfroggy> im on steroids...
07:37 <HellBlade-Arma> and you are legion?
07:37 * GodTodd doesn't think HellBlade-Arma knows Lucifer_arma at all ;)
07:37 <xfroggy> maybe
07:38 * HellBlade-Arma thinks GodTodd should shut his trapper when he doesn't get HellBlade-Arma's jokes
07:38 <xfroggy> LOL
07:38 * GodTodd got it...note the wink :P
07:38 * HellBlade-Arma did notice the wink but noticed that GodTodd isn't from the internets
07:38 * Lucifer_arma didn't get it
07:39 * HellBlade-Arma thinks Lucifer_arma needs to get his dog prepaired then
07:39 * GodTodd notes Lucifer_arma isn't missing much
07:39 <xfroggy> lol!
07:39 * GodTodd is from the outernets
07:39 <HellBlade-Arma> oh
07:39 <HellBlade-Arma> yeah
07:39 <HellBlade-Arma> well
07:39 <HellBlade-Arma> I
07:39 <HellBlade-Arma> can
07:39 <HellBlade-Arma> spam
07:39 <HellBlade-Arma> like
07:39 <HellBlade-Arma> crazy!
07:40 <xfroggy> #roulette
07:40 <armabot> xfroggy: *click*
07:40 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
07:40 <xfroggy> yay still works! :o)
07:40 <HellBlade-Arma> #roulette
07:40 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: *click*
07:40 <HellBlade-Arma> phew
07:40 <xfroggy> -.-
07:40 <GodTodd> #list alias
07:40 <armabot> GodTodd: monologue, roulette, \:o, add, afl, armabot, armaconfig, armaservers, armasettings, babel, ball, bigbrother, bounce, bug, bye, cat, cfg, chatlog, check, cinf, cink, crazylate, ctwf, dance, date, davestupidwebsite"rss, ddl, delire, die, die, digg, digitx, ding, do, dog, dong, eliza, eroulette, f, fastfood, finc, fink, fofo, fortune, g, gcalc, gfight, go, goodbye, hd, hell, hello, hey, hoop, (2 more messages)
07:40 <xfroggy> #hey
07:40 <armabot> xfroggy: The operation succeeded.
07:40 <GodTodd> #more
07:40 <armabot> GodTodd: hungary, hyphy, impregnate, insight, ircstats, joke, kill, killsomeone, kinc, kinf, laddle10, lastseen, legit, lock, log, log, lukejrwork, m, man, mcalc, mfaq, monologue, morning, move, murder, nano, night, null, onlineplayers, onlineservers, pacman, peek, pingme, piong, poing, powiedz, praise, pwn, q, realchatlogs, remove, res, resources, rou, roulette, roulette, roulete, rules, (1 more message)
07:40 <HellBlade-Arma> #\:o
07:40 <GodTodd> #joke
07:40 <armabot> By royal decree, all humor has hereby been expunged from this channel. If you feel you absolutely *have* to be funny please find a channel where people are able to understand jokes.
07:40 <xfroggy> hmm where's my favorite
07:40 <GodTodd> it's still there :D
07:41 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
07:41 <HellBlade-Arma> #rou
07:41 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: Quit cheating!
07:41 <HellBlade-Arma> fine
07:41 <xfroggy> #fofo
07:41 <armabot> http://xclan.freehostia.com/images/banner2.jpg
07:41 <HellBlade-Arma> someone else go -.-
07:41 <xfroggy> wtf
07:41 <HellBlade-Arma> #man
07:41 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: (man <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "rss http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/man.php?c=$1&p=@1".
07:41 <GodTodd> #lukejrwork
07:41 <armabot> ♪ is obsolete. ♫
07:42 <HellBlade-Arma> lol the #fofo is amazing
07:42 <xfroggy> #hell
07:42 <armabot> xfroggy: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “hell” at the moment, sorry.
07:42 <xfroggy> #pwn
07:42 <armabot> xfroggy: (pwn <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "echo http://www.$1.justgotowned.com".
07:42 <HellBlade-Arma> #lastseen ~ X ~
07:42 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: .:] ~ X ~ has last been seen on Wild West =Sumo= 6 hours 5 minutes ago.
07:42 <xfroggy> Oo
07:42 <HellBlade-Arma> #pwn xfroggy
07:42 <armabot> http://www.xfroggy.justgotowned.com
07:42 <xfroggy> ::wasnt me::
07:43 <xfroggy> lol
07:43 <HellBlade-Arma> #kill xfroggy
07:43 <armabot> xfroggy will die on 08:03 PM, July 06, 2007 GMT due to being stabbed in the eye by HellBlade-Arma
07:43 <HellBlade-Arma> hey that's already happened
07:43 * xfroggy from the future
07:44 <GodTodd> #luke
07:44 <armabot> ...
07:44 <GodTodd> oops
07:44 <xfroggy> lol
07:44 <HellBlade-Arma> #monologue
07:44 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: Your current monologue is at least 1 line long.
07:44 <HellBlade-Arma> lol darn
07:44 <GodTodd> #luke
07:44 <armabot> stfu baka noob?? RTFM or smth
07:45 <HellBlade-Arma> #todd
07:45 <HellBlade-Arma> darn
07:45 <HellBlade-Arma> #date
07:45 <armabot> I was just gonna say, eight o'clock?
07:46 <HellBlade-Arma> #eliza it's already 10:51
07:46 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: Why do you say it 's already 10 51?
07:46 <HellBlade-Arma> #eliza cause you just asked me to go on a date at 8
07:46 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: Why do you say that?
07:46 <HellBlade-Arma> #eliza cause you said it
07:46 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: Why do you say cause i said it?
07:46 <HellBlade-Arma> #cause jooo eez an whooooore
07:47 <HellBlade-Arma> ????
07:47 <HellBlade-Arma> #monologue
07:47 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: Your current monologue is at least 9 lines long.
07:47 <HellBlade-Arma> eliza is retarded
07:47 <HellBlade-Arma> #roloute
07:47 <HellBlade-Arma> awwww
07:47 <HellBlade-Arma> #roulette
07:47 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: *click*
07:48 <HellBlade-Arma> #roulete
07:48 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
07:48 <GodTodd> is she? or is it more about the mental capacity of those that have a prolonged conversation with her? ;)
07:48 <HellBlade-Arma> no she is really retarded, she always ask the same dumb questions -.-
07:48 <GodTodd> #whoami
07:48 <armabot> GodTodd: GodTodd
07:48 <HellBlade-Arma> is x why you came to me?
07:48 <HellBlade-Arma> why do you say x?
07:48 <GodTodd> identity crisis averted, i guess :)
07:48 <HellBlade-Arma> #whoistodd
07:49 <HellBlade-Arma> OH NO!
07:49 <HellBlade-Arma> IDENTITY CRISIS!
07:49 <GodTodd> #whoami
07:49 <armabot> GodTodd: GodTodd
07:49 <GodTodd> nope
07:49 <HellBlade-Arma> phew
07:49 <GodTodd> :D
07:49 <HellBlade-Arma> that was a close one
07:49 <xfroggy> lol!
07:49 <GodTodd> #whoareyou
07:49 <armabot> GodTodd: What do you think?
07:49 <HellBlade-Arma> #whoisxfroggy
07:49 <HellBlade-Arma> IDENTITY CRISISSSSSSS!
07:50 <GodTodd> #list alias
07:50 <HellBlade-Arma> YOU MUST KILL YOURSELF NOW!
07:50 <armabot> GodTodd: monologue, roulette, \:o, add, afl, armabot, armaconfig, armaservers, armasettings, babel, ball, bigbrother, bounce, bug, bye, cat, cfg, chatlog, check, cinf, cink, crazylate, ctwf, dance, date, davestupidwebsite"rss, ddl, delire, die, die, digg, digitx, ding, do, dog, dong, eliza, eroulette, f, fastfood, finc, fink, fofo, fortune, g, gcalc, gfight, go, goodbye, hd, hell, hello, hey, hoop, (2 more messages)
07:50 <HellBlade-Arma> quick play roulette
07:50 <GodTodd> #more
07:50 <armabot> GodTodd: hungary, hyphy, impregnate, insight, ircstats, joke, kill, killsomeone, kinc, kinf, laddle10, lastseen, legit, lock, log, log, luke, lukejrwork, m, man, mcalc, mfaq, monologue, morning, move, murder, nano, night, null, onlineplayers, onlineservers, pacman, peek, pingme, piong, poing, powiedz, praise, pwn, q, realchatlogs, remove, res, resources, rou, roulette, roulette, roulete, rules, (1 more message)
07:50 <HellBlade-Arma> #hoop
07:50 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “hoop” at the moment, sorry.
07:50 <GodTodd> #more
07:50 <armabot> GodTodd: roulette, sd, serverdetails, serverinfo, slap, speed, stfu, stone, sty, svn, t, tea, team, tst4, tst5, tstservers, tyskie, uname, unlock, ur, w, weather, where, whereis4p, whereisp4, where are the noobs ?, whoareyou, whoisp4, wikipedia, wild, wp, ww, ¡¡¡, and
07:50 <HellBlade-Arma> #go
07:50 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: (google <search> [--{language,restrict} <value>] [--{notsafe,similar}]) -- Searches google.com for the given string. As many results as can fit are included. --language accepts a language abbreviation; --restrict restricts the results to certain classes of things; --similar tells Google not to filter similar results. --notsafe allows possibly work-unsafe results.
07:50 <HellBlade-Arma> awww
07:50 <HellBlade-Arma> #go 4chan
07:50 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: Search took 0.13 seconds: 4chan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4chan>; YouTube - 4chan on Fox 11 News: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pyR_90RdOg>; YouTube - 4chan Second Life: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqLfGAcF8qA>; 4Chan The Movie: <http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9099482492631041462>; 4chan - Wikichan: (2 more messages)
07:50 <HellBlade-Arma> #more
07:50 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: <http://wikichan.org/index.php/4chan>; 4chan raid on Habbo Hotel - TheTechGuide Forum: <http://www.thetechguide.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=53904>; Category: 4chan - LURKMORE: <http://lurkmore.com/wiki/index.php?title=4chan>; Rapidsearch: <http://rapidsearch.yi.org/>; 4chan Firefox Extension: <http://4chan.wrathfilledhate.net/>; 4chan - WikiWorld: (1 more message)
07:50 <HellBlade-Arma> #more
07:50 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: <http://wikiworld.com/wiki/index.php/4chan>
07:50 <GodTodd> #stfu
07:50 <armabot> ...
07:51 <HellBlade-Arma> #...
07:51 <HellBlade-Arma> klol
07:51 <HellBlade-Arma> #whereis4p
07:51 <GodTodd> man...there's a bunch of usless aliases now
07:51 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: ©T¦¶3 has last been seen on Chico's Brake Boost Styball 10 hours 15 minutes ago.
07:51 <HellBlade-Arma> #whereisp4
07:51 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: ©S¦µ4 has last been seen on Chico's Brake Boost Styball 10 hours 22 minutes ago.
07:52 <HellBlade-Arma> #whoisp4
07:52 <armabot> P4 is known as ©t¦¶3 or ©S¦µ4 on the GRID
07:52 <HellBlade-Arma> #where are the noobs ?
07:52 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: the biggest noob, HellBlade-Arma, is right in this channel!
07:52 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
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07:52 <HellBlade-Arma> #hello joe
07:52 <armabot> Hello HellBlade-Arma :) Quote #18: "so you can't send a note to spidey or other noobs. -wrtlprnft" (added by Vanhayes at 05:23 AM, June 21, 2006)
07:52 <DrJoeTron> i think i was keylogged :/
07:52 <HellBlade-Arma> you were
07:53 <GodTodd> by whom?
07:53 <DrJoeTron> no idea
07:53 <HellBlade-Arma> me???
07:53 <DrJoeTron> i just went on a password change binge
07:53 <DrJoeTron> because someone got my bf2 account
07:53 <GodTodd> like locally? or over the wire?
07:53 <DrJoeTron> over the wire
07:53 <HellBlade-Arma> battlefield 2?
07:53 <DrJoeTron> i noticed because I was doing really really good
07:53 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
07:53 <DrJoeTron> especially on days I never played
07:53 <HellBlade-Arma> and you never do good
07:53 <DrJoeTron> nope
07:54 <GodTodd> bah...that can't be true...windows has awesome security in place...
07:54 <DrJoeTron> I usually end up being kicked
07:54 <HellBlade-Arma> lol GodTodd
07:54 <HellBlade-Arma> for being a noob DrJoeTron?
07:54 <DrJoeTron> LUNEX
07:54 <HellBlade-Arma> OSX!
07:54 * GodTodd notes that his bf2 account is uncompromised.
07:54 <DrJoeTron> *fap* *fap* *fap* UNGGHH LUNEX IS SO GOOOOOD"
07:54 <HellBlade-Arma> lulz
07:55 <DrJoeTron> I'm hoping it was some rogue occurance
07:55 <DrJoeTron> but I changed most of my passwords
07:55 <HellBlade-Arma> lunex is good http://www.phonecardvietnam.com/images/lunex_new20.jpg
07:56 <DrJoeTron> : (
07:56 <HellBlade-Arma> I've never really had to change any of my passwords
07:56 <DrJoeTron> i've never had to untill now
07:56 <HellBlade-Arma> cause most of them are between 24-30 characters
07:56 <DrJoeTron> and now that you jinxed yourself
07:56 <DrJoeTron> dayum
07:56 <HellBlade-Arma> all of them containing letters numbers and symbols at least one of each
07:56 <xfroggy> Oo
07:57 <DrJoeTron> bbl
07:57 <xfroggy> a1! <- is it it?
07:58 * GodTodd also notes he doesn't have a bf2 account...best security measure EVAR!
07:58 <GodTodd> #later tell spidey hey...do you still have a google api key laying around somewhere...i know you gave me one before but i think i lost it in the shuffle when i installed linux...i'ma still search for it in my backups but it'd be easier if you have one ;)
07:58 <armabot> GodTodd: The operation succeeded.
07:58 * GodTodd waits on armabot
07:58 <GodTodd> hrmm
07:58 <GodTodd> #ping
07:58 <armabot> pong
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07:58 <GodTodd> good fucking god armabot
07:58 <GodTodd> get your fingers outta your cunt or smth
07:58 <GodTodd> :D
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08:00 <HellBlade-Arma> lol 71509614400000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
08:01 <HellBlade-Arma> possibilites for one
08:01 <HellBlade-Arma> oh wait woops
08:02 <HellBlade-Arma> 95546306900000000000000000000000000000000000
08:02 <HellBlade-Arma> that's how many possibilites for one of my passwords
08:02 <HellBlade-Arma> ruffly
08:03 <xfroggy> HellBlade-Arma, thats it? Oo
08:07 <GodTodd> hrmm
08:07 <HellBlade-Arma> that's for the very basic one
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13:18 <ghableska> #weather 50266
13:18 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 74.5°F (6:19 AM CDT on August 16, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 69.8°F. Pressure: 28.97 in 980.9 hPa (Rising).
13:18 <ghableska> #tea
13:18 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (4/32): hoop, ikono, Monkey, pinK r8mB° E=Mc
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15:18 <epsy> hi
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16:30 <duudii> #armaservers
16:30 <armabot> duudii: This data is 29 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (12/14), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (12/12), Wild West =Capture The Flag= (10/10), Fortress Café (9/32), ë | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ì/xff9900 (6/16), The YELLOW Submarine (6/16), Stealth Diztruktion Clan Server(X.X) (5/16), Shrunkland in 2.8.2 NOW WITH RAMPS! (4/6), Cheers (a clone of Norms) (3/16), Wild (1 more message)
16:33 <MrBougo> http://www.explosm.net/comics/938/
16:33 <MrBougo> haaahaa
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17:24 <Lucifer_arma> yay, power came back on
17:32 <Lucifer_arma> grrr, why the hell does firefox keep crashing?
17:40 <MrBougo> :(
17:41 <MrBougo> safe mode
17:41 <MrBougo> disable every ext
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17:43 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: did you lose power?
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17:47 <GodTodd> #later tell lucifer_arma not that i know of...
17:47 <armabot> GodTodd: The operation succeeded.
17:51 <MrBougo> brb
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17:53 <luke-jr|work> hand holding is annoying
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19:19 <Lackadaisical> epsy: why was i kicked (and consequently banned) from cafe?
19:27 <Lackadaisical> wrtlprnft: strange things happening on cafe
19:32 <epsy> Lackadaisical, bug ?
19:33 <epsy> wrtlprnft is somewhere in canada for now
19:33 <epsy> :/
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19:35 <epsy> (n=None@189.17.164.fdial.global.net.uk
19:35 <epsy> nice username :)
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19:52 <Lucifer_arma> grrrr, no 3d acceleration
19:52 <Lucifer_arma> thing won't go into 1280x800 resolution
19:53 <epsy> Lucifer_arma, your screen is that res ?
19:53 <Lucifer_arma> yes
19:54 <epsy> i'm using my screen at 1280×1024 and i play games at 1280×800 :P
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19:56 * epsy va donner une claque à kidanger
19:56 * epsy donne une claque à kidanger
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20:34 <epsy> http://imstealingyour.info/schedule.php
20:34 * epsy laughs
20:35 <MrBougo> ????
20:35 <MrBougo> laughs at why?
20:35 <MrBougo> at what*
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20:38 <Lucifer_arma> grrr
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20:40 <Lucifer_arma> #ping
20:40 <armabot> pong
20:40 <epsy> what's happening ?
20:45 <MrBougo> lol
20:47 <epsy> #tea
20:47 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): E=Mc² ~*FokO*~, hoof, Monkey, onetwo=3, ¦Ö¦PsyFo, ¦Ö¦Elex
20:47 <epsy> why did i left O_o
20:49 <MrBougo> leave*
20:49 <epsy> rofl i was gonna put that -.-
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21:08 * epsy keeps forgetting his chatkey
21:08 <MrBougo> lol
21:09 <epsy> and so i'm writing all my instant at once
21:09 <epsy> haha
21:09 <epsy> mins without café
21:09 <epsy> aaah
21:09 <epsy> *16
21:10 <epsy> #sd delire
21:10 <armabot> epsy: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “delire” at the moment, sorry.
21:10 <epsy> ..
21:10 <epsy> #sd delire
21:10 <armabot> epsy: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “delire” at the moment, sorry.
21:10 * epsy slaps armabot
21:10 <epsy> #sd delire
21:10 <armabot> epsy: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “delire” at the moment, sorry.
21:11 <epsy> #sd delire
21:11 <armabot> epsy: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “delire” at the moment, sorry.
21:11 * epsy slaps armabot
21:11 * epsy slaps armabot
21:12 <MrBougo> lol
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21:13 <epsy> Now Playing: Pink Floyd - Brain Damage
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21:27 <MrBougo> bye all!
21:27 <tramshed> bowdown
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21:29 <epsy> fuck
21:29 <tramshed> you!
21:31 <epsy> banned for 14 hours -.-
21:31 <epsy> eating
21:40 * tramshed is listening to... `Ways to the Grave` by Bloodbath on WFMU on Diane's Kamikaze Fun Machine (WFMU - 128k Version - Freeform Radio the Way it Oughta Be!!)
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21:48 <GodTodd> blergle
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04:01 <Lucifer_arma> blugle
04:01 <Lucifer_arma> Now Playing: Local Fox storm coverage
04:12 <GodTodd> rain just hit
04:14 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
04:15 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 79.2°F (9:15 PM CDT on August 16, 2007). Conditions: Thunderstorms and Rain. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 73.4°F. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013.4 hPa (Rising). Air pollution watch level Orange in effect for today...
05:20 <Lucifer_arma> wow
05:20 <Lucifer_arma> not to toot my own horn or anything, but that was some damned good fried chicken
05:21 <Lucifer_arma> rain mostly missed us. We had some nice rain this morning, but the rest of the day the storm clouds just went over us without dropping anything
05:21 <Lucifer_arma> you see what happened in San Antone?
05:25 <GodTodd> no
05:26 * GodTodd is going to do a baked chicken tomorrow
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/5060998.html
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> man, san antone got trashed by tht storm
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> it was downgraded to a tropical depression when it hit landfall, but it still tore up south texas pretty seriously
05:28 <GodTodd> man...
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> we lost power twice today, but I don't know if it was coincidence or the storm
05:34 <GodTodd> surprisingly we haven't had but a couple of flickers
05:47 <spidey> #weather 38256
05:47 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 86.5°F (10:52 PM CDT on August 16, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 66.2°F. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Rising).
05:47 <spidey> 86 in the middle of the night?
05:47 <spidey> -.-
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> it's not the middle of the night yet
05:48 <xfroggy> #weather 33065
05:48 <armabot> xfroggy: The current temperature in K9PI Coral Springs, FL, Coral Springs, Florida is 80.8°F (11:51 PM EDT on August 16, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 71.6°F. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Steady).
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> so I was stuck in windows xp at work today, and finally figured out how to get the icons and fonts and shit uniformly larger
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> basically, pretend to be visually impaired and windows will easily give you waht you want :)
05:49 * Lucifer_arma doesn't like small fonts and small icons
05:49 <xfroggy> how big do you set them?
05:50 <Lucifer_arma> for menu bars, the k menu, window titles, and shit, I usually go for at least 16 pixels
05:50 <Lucifer_arma> I like my icons at least 32x32
05:50 <xfroggy> Oo thats big
05:50 <Lucifer_arma> more than that depends on the resolution and the screen size
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> I wish everybody on websites would agree on a standard font size, because I'm getting tired of having to increase it for certain pages only
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> I'd like to set it for all pages and move on
05:51 <xfroggy> haha, I'll go with that idea also
05:51 <xfroggy> we need more standards in the world ^
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> I'm not visually impaired in any way, I just don't like small fonts :)
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> so, are we playing freeciv tonight?
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, I found out today that my panel is 90px wide (it's vertical, on the right side of the screen)
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07:52 <spidey> wrtlprnft, or Lucifer_arma around?
07:52 <Lucifer_arma> ?
07:52 <spidey> think you could help me figure what i'm doing wrong?
07:52 <spidey> with a php script
07:53 <spidey> i haven't touched php/css in while so i've been getting frustrated at both today/yesterday xD
07:54 <spidey> http://pastebin.ca/660702
07:55 <spidey> i know that i'm reading the file right, echo $filecontents; prints the pid in the file
07:55 <spidey> so it's probably the exec();
08:22 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
08:22 <Lucifer_arma> if you put a variable in single quotes, it doesn't get replaced with the contents
08:22 <Lucifer_arma> 'sudo -u admin kill $filecontents' => "sudo -u admin kill $filecontents"
08:23 <spidey> aj
08:24 <spidey> ah
08:28 <spidey> er
08:29 <spidey> i'm tempted to just pass this crap to a shellscript again -.-
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12:56 <xfroggy> lol cafe crashed Oo
13:01 <xfroggy> lol :) http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/7876/alphabetpartyqz4.png
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14:46 <epsy> hi
14:57 <epsy> #tea
14:57 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: No online players.
14:57 <epsy> !
14:57 <epsy> #armaserversw
14:57 <epsy> #armaservers
14:57 <armabot> epsy: This data is 1 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (12/14), ë | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ì/xff9900 (8/16), Wild West =Capture The Flag= (8/10), Chico's Brake Boost Styball (7/8), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (6/12), FR - World Of Experience (5/16), Stealth Diztruktion Clan Server(X.X) (2/16), 1v1 Sumo Bistro (2/4), Strawberry Fields (1/16), Wild West =Wild (1 more message)
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15:21 <NeoThermic> I haven't seen z-man around for a while, anyone know where he went?
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15:55 <epsy> he's busy doing whatever....or big works on his house or he's moving
15:55 <epsy> or also on vacation
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16:03 <MrBougo> hiho
16:04 <MrBougo> all three at the same time epsy
16:04 <MrBougo> :3
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16:06 <ghableska> #weather 50266
16:06 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 70.7°F (9:09 AM CDT on August 17, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 62.6°F. Pressure: 29.16 in 987.4 hPa (Rising). Dense fog advisory in effect until 9 am CDT this morning...
16:09 <NeoThermic> epsy: bugger. Any idea when he'll be back?
16:11 <epsy> the 22nd or 23rd
16:11 <tramshed> midgets on wheels
16:12 <NeoThermic> #weather 93556
16:12 <armabot> NeoThermic: The current temperature in China Lake, California is 78.8°F (6:56 AM PDT on August 17, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 23%. Dew Point: 37.4°F. Pressure: 29.79 in 1009 hPa (Rising).
16:23 <duudii> #weather helsinki
16:23 <armabot> duudii: The current temperature in Helsinki, Finland is 66.2°F (5:20 PM EEST on August 17, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 50.0°F. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
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16:56 <ghableska> #seen Vanhayes
16:56 <armabot> ghableska: Vanhayes was last seen in #armagetron 1 day, 10 hours, 27 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <Vanhayes> #night
17:03 <MrBougo> #seen Mr. Bougo
17:03 <armabot> MrBougo: (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself.
17:04 <MrBougo> stfu
17:04 <MrBougo> #lastseen Mr. Bougo
17:04 <armabot> MrBougo: timed out
17:04 <MrBougo> :/
17:04 * ghableska pokes MrBougo
17:04 <MrBougo> ooh
17:04 * MrBougo pokes ghableska
17:04 <ghableska> #crazylate [insult MrBougo]
17:04 <MrBougo> (in the eye)
17:04 <armabot> ghableska: MrBougo - you are not nothing but a battery vassal-wished of snot ill-taken.
17:04 <MrBougo> not everywhere
17:04 <MrBougo> oh sweet
17:04 <ghableska> haha
17:05 <MrBougo> #crazylate ghableska is the winner of this match
17:05 <armabot> MrBougo: ghableska is the winner of this phosphorus
17:05 <ghableska> wtf
17:05 <MrBougo> weeeee
17:05 <MrBougo> groundpig noticed that :)
17:05 <MrBougo> match => spanish => english goes phosphorus
17:05 <ghableska> #crazylate ghableska is the winner of this game
17:05 <armabot> ghableska: ghableska is the winner of this game
17:06 <MrBougo> #crazylate A wiki is a collaborative website which can be directly edited by anyone with access to it.
17:06 <armabot> MrBougo: Wiki is a site of the Web of the collaboration that can directly be corrected by any person with the access he.
17:06 <MrBougo> xD
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17:06 <MrBougo> #crazylate [quote random]
17:06 <armabot> MrBougo: Appointment # 8: "it dominates his own mind, if the game does not destroy -- Okgo to him" (added by n54 in 04:27 P.M., of march 2006 the 29)
17:06 <ghableska> #kill ghableska
17:06 <armabot> ghableska will die on 08:03 PM, July 06, 2007 GMT due to being stabbed in the eye by ghableska
17:06 <MrBougo> #quote get 8
17:06 <armabot> MrBougo: Quote #8: "master your own mind, otherwise the game will destroy you -- Okgo" (added by n54 at 04:27 PM, March 29, 2006)
17:07 <ghableska> heh
17:07 <MrBougo> #quote get 42
17:07 <armabot> MrBougo: Quote #42: "The future doesn't belong to the fainthearted; it belongs to the brave. - Ronald Reagen, in his address following the explosion of the space shuttle Challenger" (added by Lucifer_arma at 02:03 PM, January 02, 2007)
17:07 <MrBougo> #quote get 48
17:07 <armabot> MrBougo: Quote #48: "i'm a woindwos user --MrBougo" (added by Lucifer_arma at 09:12 AM, June 24, 2007)
17:07 <MrBougo> :D
17:07 <MrBougo> #crazylate Most people, when they first learn about the wiki concept, assume that a website that can be edited by anybody would soon be rendered useless by destructive input. It sounds like offering free spray cans next to a grey concrete wall. The only likely outcome would be ugly graffiti and simple tagging, and many artistic efforts would not be long lived. Still, it seems to work very well.
17:07 <armabot> MrBougo: Most of people, when she first learns in the concept of wiki, it assumes that a site of the Web that can be corrected soon by any person would be made useless by the destructive entrance. It sounds whereas the source of free tins of the aerosol next to a wall makes gray specific. The only probable result would be painted ugly and the mark with the simple label, and many artistic efforts would (1 more message)
17:07 <MrBougo> #more
17:07 <armabot> MrBougo: not be lived in length. Nevertheless, it seems to work very well.
17:08 <MrBougo> xD
17:08 <ghableska> huh
17:08 <ghableska> #crazylate [kill luke-jr]
17:08 <armabot> ghableska: Lucas-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr will die in 08:03 P.M., of July the 06 of GMT 2007 due to being stabbed in the eye by ghableska
17:08 <MrBougo> HAha
17:09 <MrBougo> Lucas-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr
17:09 <MrBougo> :D
17:09 <ghableska> #tea
17:09 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (13/32): ${ßGL}$Kriki=_=, Blood, CT|play, Gimp, gl¡tch, HeHe=§°´, Honda, I?, L2K|Gazelle, Monkey, t~<-.->, UnitedPyros·ª¡³, ~{GP}~Alien
17:09 <ghableska> hmm
17:09 <MrBougo> #crazylate [tea]
17:09 <armabot> MrBougo: Force of Café: Players (13/32): ${ãŸgl}$Kriki = _ =, the blood, CT|play, gimp, tch of glÂ, HeHe=§°Â', the sling, I, L2K|Gazelle, monkey, t~, ³ of UnitedPyros·ª Â, ~{GP}~Alien
17:10 <MrBougo> haha
17:10 <MrBougo> "the sling"
17:10 <MrBougo> Force of Café
17:10 <ghableska> :P
17:12 <ghableska> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLDbGqJ2KYk
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17:28 <luke-jr_work> ...
17:28 <luke-jr_work> #crazylate [weather 50266]
17:28 <armabot> luke-jr_work: The present temperature in the DES of the Moines of the west, Iowa is 74.5°F (10:33 CDT of August the 17 of 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Point De Condensacio'n: 59.0°F. Pressure: 29.16 in hPa 987,4 (raised).
17:28 <MrBougo> :(
17:29 <MrBougo> in the DES of the Moines of the west
17:29 <MrBougo> weee
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18:36 <epsy> ...
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19:04 <epsy> never seen that « show axes » option
19:04 <epsy> it's useful :)
19:04 <epsy> and nice, by the way
19:15 <MrBougo> where?
19:15 <MrBougo> how dya enable that
19:21 <P4> ping wrtlprnft
19:21 <epsy> network settings
19:21 <P4> omfg
19:21 <P4> what network settings
19:21 <epsy> wrtl is on vacation
19:22 <P4> yea... who has acces to his server? :P
19:22 <MrBougo> not me
19:22 <tramshed> eat smeg.
19:25 <epsy> maybe try to use your con to set spam_maxlen 150
19:25 <epsy> so the client won't care
19:25 <epsy> and uoi can send an admin command
19:25 <epsy> P4,
19:27 <P4> hm
19:31 <MrBougo> i can access cybercuntz!
19:31 <MrBougo> well not really :p
19:31 <MrBougo> P4, try to bruteforce his serv to get access
19:32 <epsy> P4, did you tried my suggestion ?
19:32 <epsy> cu
19:32 <MrBougo> did you try*
19:32 <MrBougo> cya
19:34 <tramshed> ?
19:34 <tramshed> something wrong with cybercuntz?
19:35 <MrBougo> nah!
19:36 <tramshed> ah, good
19:36 <tramshed> wasnt sure, its upload was acting retarded the other night
19:36 <MrBougo> my best hoster so far
19:36 <tramshed> I could dl from it at max, but could only up at like 20k
19:36 <tramshed> had to smack it around a bit
19:36 <MrBougo> lolz
19:36 <MrBougo> blame your bandwidth
19:36 <MrBougo> maybe you have some spyware
19:36 <MrBougo> worm
19:36 <MrBougo> whatever
19:36 <tramshed> heh, this system is clean
19:36 <MrBougo> eating your bandwidth
19:36 <tramshed> it was just the server acting dumbass
19:37 <MrBougo> DDOSsing the NASA and the gov sites
19:37 <MrBougo> and swampland
19:37 <MrBougo> thats why it has a huge ping
19:37 <MrBougo> its because of YOU
19:37 <MrBougo> YOU
19:37 <MrBougo> bbiab
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19:55 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmm
19:56 * Lucifer_arma doesn't remember ies4linux having a gui installer
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20:15 <luke-jr_work> What is a "C++ Architect", in the sense that writing code would be abnormal?
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22:36 <epsy> YOU FUCKERS
22:42 <Lucifer_arma> hi epsy
22:45 <epsy> ...
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23:26 <ghableska> #weather 50266
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23:26 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 78.4°F (4:28 PM CDT on August 17, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 60.8°F. Pressure: 29.14 in 986.7 hPa (Steady).
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Log from 2007-08-18:
--- Day changed Sat Aug 18 2007
00:07 <spidey> shell scripting ftw <3
00:08 <spidey> i made a 1 line shellscript that does what stop.php did...
00:08 <spidey> sudo -u admin kill -9 `cat $1`
00:10 <Vanhayes> hmm, ghab only comes in here for weather these days
00:10 <spidey> haha
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00:16 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
00:16 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 70°F / 21°C | Humidity: 60% | Pressure: 29.78in / 1008hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h | Updated: 7:00 PM ADT; Tonight - A few clouds. Increasing cloudiness overnight with 60 percent chance of showers. Fog patches overnight. Low 12C(54F).; Saturday - Cloudy with sunny periods. Showers beginning in the morning and ending late (1 more message)
00:16 <Vanhayes> #more
00:16 <armabot> Vanhayes: in the day. Risk of a thundershower. Amount 5 mm(0.2 in). Wind becoming northwest 20 km/h (12 mph) late in the day. High 17C(63F). UV index 3 or moderate. Saturday night clearing in the evening. Wind northwest 20 km/h (12 mph). Low 9C(48F).; Sunday - Sunny. High 18C(64F).;
00:16 <HellBlade-Arma> #weather 92037
00:16 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: The current temperature in La Jolla Shores, La Jolla, California is 83.3°F (3:20 PM PDT on August 17, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 71.6°F. Pressure: 29.76 in 1007.7 hPa (Falling).
00:16 <HellBlade-Arma> #weather San Diego
00:16 <Vanhayes> ha, la jolla
00:16 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
00:16 <HellBlade-Arma> awww
00:17 <HellBlade-Arma> what hayes?
00:17 <HellBlade-Arma> you have something against la jolla?
00:32 <GodTodd> #weather san diego, california
00:32 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in San Diego, California is 75.2°F (2:51 PM PDT on August 17, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 62.6°F. Pressure: 29.81 in 1009 hPa (Falling).
00:32 <HellBlade-Arma> blech
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00:32 <GodTodd> #weather nome, alaska
00:33 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Nome, Alaska is 60.8°F (1:53 PM AKDT on August 17, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 53.6°F. Pressure: 29.75 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
00:34 <GodTodd> #weather antarctica
00:34 <armabot> GodTodd: Overcast. High:-63 ° F. / -53 ° C.; Overcast. Low:-65 ° F. / -54 ° C.; Overcast. High:-63 ° F. / -53 ° C.; Overcast. Low:-69 ° F. / -56 ° C.; Overcast. High:-67 ° F. / -55 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:-85 ° F. / -65 ° C.;
00:34 <GodTodd> wow...fucking hot in antarctica :D
00:35 <spidey> #weather 38256
00:35 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 97.9°F (5:40 PM CDT on August 17, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 31%. Dew Point: 62.6°F. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Steady). Heat advisory in effect until 8 PM CDT this evening...
00:35 <HellBlade-Arma> spidey you live in paris?
00:35 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
00:35 <spidey> tennessee,yes
00:35 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Near Custer and Parker, Plano, Texas is 93.0°F (5:41 PM CDT on August 17, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 68.0°F. Pressure: 31.01 in 1050.0 hPa (Falling).
00:35 <spidey> paris france, no
00:35 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
00:36 <GodTodd> he just spells english words like he lives in paris, france ;)
00:36 <HellBlade-Arma> don't overheat your computer now
00:37 <spidey> i have a/c
00:37 <spidey> ..
00:37 <spidey> plus a box fan on it because the graphics card gets really hot
00:38 <spidey> oh ffs
00:52 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
00:52 <armabot> Vanhayes: This data is 83 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (13/14), Wild West =Capture The Flag= (10/10), ë | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ì/xff9900 (8/16), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (8/12), Swampland II (6/8), ? ? ? ? ? ? (6/16), ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Arena {100MBit} (5/10), [] Cheers! [] A clone of Norms Place, by Angel. (5/16), .: Eclipse'd.EC|d Arma Clan :. (2 more messages)
00:53 <HellBlade-Arma> MOAR IT!
00:53 <HellBlade-Arma> #armaservers
00:53 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: This data is 22 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (14/14), Wild West =Capture The Flag= (10/10), ë | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ì/xff9900 (7/16), ? ? ? ? ? ? (7/16), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (7/12), Swampland II (6/8), ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Arena {100MBit} (6/10), Fortress Café (6/32), [] Cheers! [] A clone of Norms Place, by Angel. (5/16), .: (2 more messages)
00:53 <HellBlade-Arma> #more
00:53 <HellBlade-Arma> #more
00:53 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: Eclipse'd.EC|d Arma Clan :. (5/16), WildCat (4/16), ~"XzL.Clan The Server (4/12), Strawberry Fields (3/16), The DogFight Arena | by Durka & ~"XzL.Shaggy (3/8), Crazy Tronners Wild Mayhem (3/8), SPACEZONE III (3/15), Norm's Place (2/12), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (2/12), Wild West =Fortress Shootout= (2/12), Wild West =Sumo= (2/14), Breakfast of the Resurrected [BoC] (1/16), Crazy Tronners (1 more message)
00:53 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: Wild Marathon (1/14), OpenFortress (1/16), Wild West =Hold The Flag= ~Multi~Mode~ (1/16), SPACEZONE III TEAM PLAY (1/15)
01:29 <HellBlade-Arma> #weather 92037
01:29 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: The current temperature in La Jolla Shores, La Jolla, California is 85.5°F (4:35 PM PDT on August 17, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 73.4°F. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007.0 hPa (Falling).
01:32 <HellBlade-Arma> grrr it's gone up 2.2?
01:37 <Vanhayes> spidey: Lucifer_arma luke-jr|work GodTodd civ?
01:38 <spidey> busy writing a admin panel
01:38 <Vanhayes> how long is that going to take?
01:38 <spidey> depends
01:38 <spidey> if i do it right, 2-3 days
01:38 <spidey> if i do it like i'm doing it
01:39 <spidey> 30 minutes
01:39 <Vanhayes> keep doing it like your doing, then we can get a game of civ in
01:39 <spidey> you're more than welcome to help me if you know php :p
01:41 <luke-jr|work> Vanhayes: ehh, maybe
01:41 <luke-jr|work> Vanhayes: last time, spidey and Lucifer_arma ganged up on me tho
01:41 <Vanhayes> i can say i do and contribute nothing, except slowing you down
01:41 <luke-jr|work> and then tried to get GodTodd in cuz they weren't winning enough
01:41 <spidey> um
01:41 <spidey> todd wanted to join
01:42 <luke-jr|work> no, you went asking him
01:42 <spidey> and you turned allowtake off
01:42 <Vanhayes> luke-jr|work: it happens sometimes, all depends on where people start
01:42 <spidey> because you're a pussy
01:42 <luke-jr|work> Vanhayes: he didn't start
01:42 <spidey> and never hosting another server we play on again
01:42 <luke-jr|work> he was going to take an AI allied against me
01:42 <spidey> as stated
01:42 <spidey> now stfu so i can finish
01:42 <luke-jr|work> spidey: you want to play you vs 3 other people?
01:42 <spidey> i have, haven't i?
01:42 <luke-jr|work> where the 3 other ppl all can pwn you alone
01:42 <spidey> and i owned all 3
01:42 <spidey> you, your friend, and some random guy
01:43 <luke-jr|work> none of us could pwn you combined, let alone by ourselves
01:43 <luke-jr|work> big difference
01:43 <spidey> w/e
01:43 <luke-jr|work> nor were you alone
01:43 <spidey> i was
01:43 <luke-jr|work> Vanhayes: does 3 pro vs 1 medium-level-at-best sound fair?
01:43 <spidey> stfu you're making me typo on my already fucked up code D:
01:44 <luke-jr|work> LOL
01:44 <spidey> todd isn't a pro
01:44 <Vanhayes> fair no, but no one said civ is fair
01:44 <luke-jr|work> compared to me?
01:44 <spidey> dude
01:44 <spidey> you're such a cry baby
01:44 <spidey> i wasn't even attacking you
01:44 <luke-jr|work> spidey: you're the one who keeps bringing it up
01:44 <luke-jr|work> spidey: you were so
01:44 <spidey> i was blocking you from advancing on me
01:44 <luke-jr|work> you were putting my cities under siege
01:44 <luke-jr|work> so they died
01:45 <luke-jr|work> cuz of no food
01:45 <spidey> YOU PUT YOUR FUCKING CITY IN MY TERRITORY
01:45 <spidey> of course i'm fucking seiging them
01:45 <luke-jr|work> it was not your territory
01:45 <spidey> you knew what you was doing
01:45 <spidey> you took that settler
01:45 <spidey> and put it 4 blocks from my cities
01:45 <spidey> that's my fucking territory
01:45 <luke-jr|work> as if there was any place I spawned not 4 blocks from your cities
01:45 <spidey> you had more room than i did
01:45 <spidey> i had 5 cities
01:46 <luke-jr|work> well I deserved it
01:46 <luke-jr|work> :p
01:46 <spidey> simply put
01:46 <spidey> i was gonna let luci pwn you
01:46 <luke-jr|work> no
01:46 <spidey> all i wanted was to win by science/wonders
01:46 <luke-jr|work> you were gonna let GodTodd pwn me
01:46 <spidey> if i wanted to invade you
01:46 <luke-jr|work> stfu, it doesn't matter anymore
01:46 <spidey> my 30 units from 5 cities would have done the job
01:47 <spidey> no it doesnt, because the ai pwned you before any of us could
01:47 <spidey> nu
01:47 <spidey> nub
01:47 <luke-jr|work> only cuz I forgot I was playing
01:47 <luke-jr|work> come up here and help me unload the truck
01:47 <Vanhayes> I say we start a new game
01:47 <luke-jr|work> and put my server rack inside
01:48 <luke-jr|work> Vanhayes: if you want spidey or GodTodd to play, I can't host it
01:48 <luke-jr|work> Vanhayes: tho spidey might be bribed if he gets /cmdlevel hack
01:49 <spidey> ..
01:49 <luke-jr|work> ...
01:49 <Vanhayes> I say we start a game up in say, an hour lateest, I dont really care who hosts
01:49 <luke-jr|work> Vanhayes: you host
01:49 <luke-jr|work> :p
01:49 <spidey> if luke doesn't stfu i'm not gonna be able to play in a hour
01:50 <spidey> i've already fucked up half of the part i'm workingo n
01:56 <GodTodd> man...that's a rain outta nowhere
02:01 <spidey> echo Server stopped(maybe); <--- lazy way D:
02:18 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
02:18 <Vanhayes> I say 15
02:18 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 62°F / 17°C | Humidity: 69% | Pressure: 29.79in / 1009hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h | Updated: 9:00 PM ADT; Tonight - A few clouds. Increasing cloudiness overnight with 60 percent chance of showers. Fog patches overnight. Low 12C(54F).; Saturday - Cloudy with sunny periods. Showers beginning in the morning and ending late in (1 more message)
02:18 <Vanhayes> close
02:18 <Vanhayes> #more
02:18 <armabot> Vanhayes: the day. Risk of a thundershower. Amount 5 mm(0.2 in). Wind becoming northwest 20 km/h (12 mph) late in the day. High 17C(63F). UV index 3 or moderate. Saturday night clearing in the evening. Wind northwest 20 km/h (12 mph). Low 9C(48F).; Sunday - Sunny. High 18C(64F).;
02:22 <spidey> yay
02:22 <spidey> ok
02:22 <spidey> now to figure out how to make the stupid thing exit;
02:26 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, you around?
02:26 <spidey> or maybe hayes, if you know php? :D
02:29 <luke-jr|work> GodTodd: Texas too??
02:29 <luke-jr|work> spidey: ?
02:30 <luke-jr|work> define 'exit'
02:30 <spidey> make the script halt
02:30 <spidey> it makes the browser apear to load over and over
02:30 <spidey> but it doesn't do the action over and over
02:30 <luke-jr|work> ...
02:30 <spidey> here's what i'm talking about
02:30 <spidey> $serv = $_POST['serv'];
02:30 <spidey> exec("sudo -u admin ".$serv);
02:30 <spidey> echo 'server started(maybe)';
02:30 <spidey> exit;
02:30 <spidey> now
02:31 <luke-jr|work> lol
02:31 <spidey> when it starts the server
02:31 <luke-jr|work> and you criticize *me* for using sudo? :p
02:31 <spidey> it starts it, but it makes the browser hang :(
02:31 <spidey> um, you criticized me for using sudo, buddy
02:31 <luke-jr|work> you need to run the task in the bg
02:31 <spidey> why would i? i've been using it this whole time
02:31 <spidey> but it is
02:31 <luke-jr|work> or have the task exit
02:31 <luke-jr|work> #last --with sudo --nolimit
02:31 <spidey> here's a $_POST['serv']
02:31 <armabot> luke-jr|work: [02:36:10] <spidey> um, you criticized me for using sudo, buddy, [02:35:59] <luke-jr|work> and you criticize *me* for using sudo? :p, [02:35:42] <spidey> exec("sudo -u admin ".$serv);, [00:13:06] <spidey> sudo -u admin kill -9 `cat $1`, and [08:27:46] <Lucifer_arma> 'sudo -u admin kill $filecontents' => "sudo -u admin kill $filecontents"
02:32 <luke-jr|work> hmm, doesn't go back very far
02:32 <luke-jr|work> spidey: are you *sure* it's working?
02:32 <spidey> wait wait
02:32 <spidey> i only did a few servers with nohup
02:32 <luke-jr|work> using sudo from php securely isn't very simple
02:32 <spidey> yea it's working
02:32 <luke-jr|work> nohup doesn't put it in the bg
02:32 <spidey> & does
02:33 <luke-jr|work> yes
02:33 <luke-jr|work> wd
02:33 <spidey> lucis armastart wrapper, when run as a daemon, runs in the background
02:33 <spidey> so why is it still hanging?
02:33 <luke-jr|work> ok
02:37 <Lucifer_arma> what's hanging?
02:37 <Lucifer_arma> the armastart wrapper or the arma process?
02:37 <Lucifer_arma> keep in mind that the arma process spends a minute or so connecting to each of 4 master servers and reporting itself
02:38 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, neither
02:38 <spidey> my script's hanging
02:38 <Lucifer_arma> now, there is another way it could hang. If the user doesn't have write access to the directory where armastart creates its pipe, then armastart will crash and armagetronad-dedicated will hang (because it can't connect to the pipe)
02:38 <Lucifer_arma> or something like that
02:38 <Lucifer_arma> your script is hanging?
02:38 <Lucifer_arma> your php script is hanging?
02:38 <spidey> yea
02:38 <spidey> hold on
02:39 <Lucifer_arma> heh, my daughter tried to login last night around 9pm and couldn't :)
02:39 * Lucifer_arma hasn't told them about that particular change
02:42 <spidey> ok
02:42 <spidey> luci i'm pm you the link on jabber because the dir isn't pass'd yet and i don't trust everyone here :p
02:43 <spidey> sign on jabber xD
02:45 <spidey> or i pwned you on here
02:48 <Lucifer_arma> heh, oops
02:48 * Lucifer_arma just installed a new OS and hasn't finished configuring it
02:48 <luke-jr|work> ()$&)#$
02:48 <luke-jr|work> what idiot uses hexagonal screws?
02:49 <Lucifer_arma> ummmmmmmm
02:49 <Lucifer_arma> you got your degree in mechanical engineering from ... ?
02:49 <spidey> ?
02:49 <luke-jr|work> Lucifer_arma: I got my screwdrivers from ???, and they don't include a hexagon
02:50 <Lucifer_arma> those used to be called allen wrenches, but the phrase "hex head" has become more common
02:50 <Lucifer_arma> so buy a set of hex heads.
02:50 <spidey> or use a knife
02:50 <spidey> knives always work
02:50 <Vanhayes> knives can strip the screws
02:51 <Lucifer_arma> torx(tm) work frequently in hex heads, if you size it right
02:51 <luke-jr|work> torx?
02:51 <Lucifer_arma> yep, spidey, it sure does hang
02:51 <Lucifer_arma> yes, torx
02:51 * Lucifer_arma isn't surprised luke-jr|work (hi there!) doesn't know anything about screwing
02:51 <spidey> i dunno why/how to fix it :(
02:51 <Lucifer_arma> read the php docs on exec, particularly check hang conditions :)
02:51 <spidey> it stops at the exec, so exit doesn't work
02:51 <luke-jr|work> depends on what kind of screwing
02:52 <spidey> Note: If you start a program using this function and want to leave it running in the background, you have to make sure that the output of that program is redirected to a file or some other output stream or else PHP will hang until the execution of the program ends.
02:52 <Lucifer_arma> If you start a program using this function and want to leave it running in the background, you have to make sure that the output of that program is redirected to a file or some other output stream or else PHP will hang until the execution of the program ends.
02:52 <Lucifer_arma> heh
02:52 <spidey> wow, it was right infront of me
02:52 * spidey slaps self
02:52 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr|work: torx are common on electronics and american cars
02:54 <Vanhayes> Hours up, who wants to play a game of civ?
02:54 <luke-jr|work> well I don't think I have a screwdriver for it
03:00 <Vanhayes> so... who is up for a game of civ?
03:01 <luke-jr|work> nobody, from the sound of it
03:03 <spidey> i will
03:03 <spidey> 5 minutes or so
03:03 <spidey> almost done :)
03:07 <HellBlade-Arma> #weather 92037
03:08 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: The current temperature in La Jolla Shores, La Jolla, California is 84.6°F (6:10 PM PDT on August 17, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 69.8°F. Pressure: 29.73 in 1006.7 hPa (Falling).
03:08 <spidey> woot
03:08 <spidey> piped it to /dev/null D:
03:08 <spidey> Vanhayes, ready
03:08 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, fixed :)
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03:09 <Vanhayes> who else is playing?
03:09 <Vanhayes> Lucifer_arma: GodTodd luke-jr|work ?
03:11 <Lucifer_arma> maybe
03:11 <Lucifer_arma> currently fooling with other games
03:13 <Vanhayes> what games?
03:17 <GodTodd> those ones...you know...the games
03:17 <GodTodd> :)
03:19 <Vanhayes> i love those ones
03:20 <Lucifer_arma> looking at network games that are good for kids
03:20 <HellBlade-Arma> for your kids you mean?
03:21 <Vanhayes> have they ever played arma before?
03:27 <Lucifer_arma> yes, for my kids, and no, they can't play arma
03:27 <Lucifer_arma> 3d games don't work so well on that thin client I set up for them
03:27 <HellBlade-Arma> to much cussing?
03:27 <Lucifer_arma> to be honest, I'd just as soon disable chat for them because of all the personal attacks
03:27 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, I can play freeciv, but I'd like to play on the small world map
03:28 <spidey> same
03:36 <Vanhayes> sounds good to me
03:36 <spidey> who's hosting?
03:37 <HellBlade-Arma> not I
03:37 <Vanhayes> the faster we get started the longer I can play, I work at 8 tommorow so ill have to quit about 1 or 2 at the extreme latest
03:43 <spidey> Vanhayes, get me a job where you work
03:43 <HellBlade-Arma> and me
03:43 <spidey> pft
03:44 <spidey> i asked first
03:44 <HellBlade-Arma> I ASKED SECOND!
03:44 <spidey> so
03:44 <spidey> noone likes you
03:44 <HellBlade-Arma> so your face...
03:44 <Vanhayes> Ive worked over 45 hours this week at a part time job, i havent had a day off since last tuesday
03:44 <spidey> sounds good to me
03:44 <Vanhayes> and its minimum wage
03:45 <Vanhayes> canadian
03:45 <HellBlade-Arma> doesn't that it's over 40 hours make it a full time job?
03:45 <spidey> that is?
03:45 <HellBlade-Arma> nvm
03:45 <spidey> min here is like $5.60
03:45 <HellBlade-Arma> it's canada
03:45 <Vanhayes> its 7.25 in NB
03:45 <spidey> and i can live off 45hr/week at min wage
03:45 <spidey> seeing as we live off $700/mo now
03:45 <Vanhayes> so can I but then last week I had 29
03:46 <Vanhayes> and the week before 30 some then 18 or so before that
03:46 <spidey> as long as i have some kind of income i don't care :p
03:46 <spidey> aslong as it's not mcdonalds
03:46 <Vanhayes> and since Im legally an adult and no longer a student I get taxed
03:46 <spidey> i refuse to work there, unless luke-jr|work goes to that same one, then i will so i can spit in his food
03:46 <Vanhayes> its save easy a grocery store
03:46 <Lucifer_arma> lemme grab a smoke, then I'll start a server
03:47 <spidey> CA save easy = USA save alot?
03:48 <Vanhayes> sure
03:48 <Vanhayes> never heard of save alot but it sounds the same
03:48 <Vanhayes> #g 7.25 CAD in USD
03:48 <armabot> blame google for closing their damn API
03:48 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
03:48 <Vanhayes> you suck google
03:48 <spidey> lol
03:49 <Vanhayes> #help calc
03:49 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: That command exists in the Google and Math plugins. Please specify exactly which plugin command you want help with.
03:49 <Vanhayes> #math calc 7.25 * 40
03:49 <armabot> Vanhayes: 290
03:50 <Vanhayes> #math calc 290 * 4
03:50 <armabot> Vanhayes: 1160
03:50 <spidey> that's more than we currently live off of
03:50 <spidey> heh
03:50 <spidey> so that plus $700/mo
03:50 <spidey> that's like living as kings for us :p
03:51 <Vanhayes> but then rent on a one bedroom apartment here cost 650 a month without utilities
03:51 <spidey> wtf?
03:51 <HellBlade-Arma> stinking canadians, always trying to steal our money
03:52 <spidey> i guess i have it decent
03:52 <spidey> the logs on this old house are worth more than enough to buy a double wide trailor
03:52 <Vanhayes> plus I got taxed 20 some bucks off of a 156 check, so ....
03:52 <spidey> and this house is going in my name when my grandma pass's away
03:52 <spidey> so i'll have like
03:53 <spidey> 3 bills, electric, net, and phone
03:53 <spidey> plus the food
03:53 <Vanhayes> minimum isnt enough for someone to live off of on a part time job here
03:53 <spidey> normally it isn't here either
03:53 <spidey> i'll just have a place to start out with..
03:53 <Vanhayes> because its rare you get more than 30 at where I work, its just that everyone quits slave easy
03:54 <spidey> heh
03:54 <Vanhayes> it was basically me unloading 4 trucks a week and putting shit out on the shelves and rotating the products
03:55 <Vanhayes> then I see the produce guy cut fruit all day and get paid 10 an hour
03:55 <spidey> ...
03:56 <Vanhayes> apparantly it takes skill to slice watermelon into squares
03:56 <spidey> lol
03:58 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.douglasadams.com/creations/infocomjava.html
03:58 <Vanhayes> the guy who quit before me got 8 bucks an hour for doing that job for 3 years, and that is one of the better jobs around here
03:58 <Vanhayes> and thats why im going out west
03:58 <Lucifer_arma> oh nvm, looked like a java verison of the game
03:59 <Lucifer_arma> need another 30 minutes
04:03 <spidey> hm
04:06 <P4> can you connect to taht server? i can see there's 4 players but i got map_resource error
04:06 <P4> #serverinfo -v octopus
04:06 <armabot> P4: Octopus's Garden (62.75.166.226:4538) running 0.2.8.2.1 unix dedicated, url: http://mastercontrolprogram.de, Description: “6-axis/18 Rubber/400m walls“, Players (4/16): <<Fanatic>>, FanaticGirl, OLLI, ULTRA
04:07 <Lucifer_arma> hey, you guys want to play monopoly? :)
04:07 <spidey> LOL
04:08 <Lucifer_arma> http://gtkatlantic.gradator.net/downloads.html
04:08 <P4> what means "Error: Return value 0 != 200" on Map load failure?
04:08 <Lucifer_arma> kde users can just play atlantik :)
04:08 <spidey> 0 doesn't equal 200?
04:08 <P4> yea.. on map load...
04:08 <P4> what does it mean?
04:09 <Lucifer_arma> #google http 200
04:09 <P4> it's not 404 error, right?
04:09 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Search took 0.11 seconds: HTTP /1.1: Status Code Definitions: <http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec10.html>; 200 Free Scholarships for Minorities from Black Excel: <http://www.blackexcel.org/200-Scholarships.html>; 200 Free Scholarships for Minorities: <http://www.blackexcel.org/06-200-free-scholarships-minorities.htm>; Ethereal: [Ethereal-users] Five HTTP 200 responses (3 more messages)
04:09 <P4> oh it
04:09 <P4> it's http error code
04:09 <P4> 200 OK
04:10 <spidey> Error # Info Error Code
04:10 <spidey> 200 Info OK
04:10 <spidey> wtf's that mean?
04:10 <P4> if it's OK... what the hell is wrong
04:10 <Lucifer_arma> so it's getting a return value of 0 instead for some reason
04:10 <Lucifer_arma> which probably means some internal error of some sort
04:10 <P4> but players are there
04:10 <P4> can it be clientside?
04:10 <spidey> The item requested of the server is available (keep in mind, available, not accepted or completed).
04:10 <spidey> no
04:10 <Vanhayes> hmm how long does an average game of online monopoly last?
04:11 <P4> damn
04:11 <P4> it works when they left :|
04:11 <P4> strange...
04:11 <Lucifer_arma> don't know, my client crashed when I was playing with the kids earlier
04:12 <Lucifer_arma> which reminds me, I need to figure out why it didn't let me back in when that happened
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04:16 <GodTodd> length of any monopoly game generally depends on the "house rules" in effect :)
04:16 <Vanhayes> id be up for a game of monopoly a little late for civ
04:16 <Lucifer_arma> hey, let's play it
04:16 <Lucifer_arma> forget freeciv and let's play monopoly :)
04:16 <Vanhayes> ok
04:16 <Lucifer_arma> www.davefancella.com , port 1234
04:16 <Vanhayes> what version?
04:16 <Lucifer_arma> shouldn't matter, get the latest
04:16 <GodTodd> luke-jr|work's not playing is he?
04:17 <Vanhayes> maybe This is the game he doesnt suck at
04:17 <Lucifer_arma> heh
04:17 * GodTodd refuses to play any game with luke-jr|work...
04:17 <Lucifer_arma> aw, come on, how bad can it be?
04:17 <Lucifer_arma> of course, we could find ourselves waiting for him to go, doesn't look like there's a turn timeout
04:17 <GodTodd> i'm sick of his childish shit...i've got better things to do than deal with him
04:17 <Vanhayes> can we kick?
04:18 <GodTodd> so i've decided to eliminate that possibility :)
04:18 <Lucifer_arma> not that I can see
04:18 <Lucifer_arma> lemme see what I can find
04:24 <Lucifer_arma> well, if worse comes to worst, I can use the firewall to kick him
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04:24 <Vanhayes> is the server up?
04:24 <Lucifer_arma> #last --from luke-jr|work --nolimit
04:24 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, server's up
04:24 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: [03:06:15] <luke-jr|work> nobody, from the sound of it, [02:59:37] <luke-jr|work> well I don't think I have a screwdriver for it, [02:56:40] <luke-jr|work> depends on what kind of screwing, [02:56:07] <luke-jr|work> torx?, [02:54:48] <luke-jr|work> Lucifer_arma: I got my screwdrivers from ???, and they don't include a hexagon, [02:53:40] <luke-jr|work> what idiot uses hexagonal screws?, (50 more messages)
04:24 <Vanhayes> CONNECT 1] socket 352 closed
04:24 <Vanhayes> [CONNECT 1] connected on "www.davefancella.com:1234", use socket 372
04:24 <Vanhayes> [CONNECT 1] socket 372 closed
04:24 <Vanhayes> thats what comes up
04:25 <Lucifer_arma> ummmm, it's running, for real! :)
04:25 <luke-jr> I'm too busy to play tonight
04:25 <Lucifer_arma> says you conncted
04:25 <luke-jr> #last --from luke-jr
04:25 <armabot> luke-jr: [04:30:08] <luke-jr> I'm too busy to play tonight
04:25 <Vanhayes> ya, for some reason it just let me
04:25 <Lucifer_arma> oh good, no luke for monopoly then :)
04:26 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: ?
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04:26 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: ?
04:26 <Vanhayes> spidey: GodTodd ping
04:26 <spidey> nah
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04:26 <Lucifer_arma> mkzelda: monopoly? :)
04:26 <Vanhayes> come on
04:27 <GodTodd> sec
04:28 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: atlantik is the client
04:28 <Lucifer_arma> it's the standard client, in fact, it's just only available for KDE
04:29 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: yep...i know :)
04:29 <tramshed> hot kernel pwnage.
04:29 <tramshed> kernel compile took 3 minutes
04:31 <Lucifer_arma> my wife wants to play
04:32 <Lucifer_arma> er, maybe not, she wants to grab a smoke first
04:32 <Lucifer_arma> wait for a cigarrette?
04:33 <GodTodd> sure
05:26 <luke-jr> do gas dryers have abnormal electrical plugs?
05:26 <tramshed> I wouldnt be surprised
05:26 <tramshed> is it a 3 prong circular plug?
05:29 <luke-jr> mine is electric
05:29 <luke-jr> just want to be sure it's right
05:35 <Vanhayes> #night
05:35 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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05:35 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: I want to see what this atlantik variation is, you interested?
05:35 <GodTodd> what variation?
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> well, hit new game and then join Lucifer's game
05:36 <GodTodd> sec
05:43 <xfroggy> hmm guys.... weird question, but when working with computer components, is it alright to use magnetic screwdriver?
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05:45 <xfroggy> HellBlade-Arma, BOING!
05:45 <HellBlade-Arma> xfroggy, ping
05:46 <xfroggy> -.-
05:46 <HellBlade-Arma> #ping xfroggy
05:46 <armabot> pong
05:46 <xfroggy> #ping HellBlade-Arma
05:46 <armabot> pong
05:46 <HellBlade-Arma> ;P
05:46 <xfroggy> lul wut
05:46 <HellBlade-Arma> you didn't know that did you?
05:46 <xfroggy> ya
05:46 <HellBlade-Arma> #weather 92037
05:46 <xfroggy> I forgot my fav <3 command though :(
05:46 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: The current temperature in La Jolla Shores, La Jolla, California is 80.1°F (8:50 PM PDT on August 17, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 68.0°F. Pressure: 29.75 in 1007.3 hPa (Rising).
05:46 <HellBlade-Arma> #eliza wanna have butt secks?
05:46 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: What do you think?
05:46 <xfroggy> Oo
05:47 <HellBlade-Arma> ;P
05:47 <xfroggy> #\:o
05:47 <HellBlade-Arma> :-#
05:47 <xfroggy> #\:o
05:47 <xfroggy> #help \:o
05:47 <armabot> xfroggy: (\:o <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "".
05:47 <xfroggy> Oo
05:47 <HellBlade-Arma> :-+>
05:48 <HellBlade-Arma> #lastseen ~ X ~
05:48 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: ~ X ~ has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress 1 hour 28 minutes ago.
05:48 <HellBlade-Arma> #lastseen player 1
05:48 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: Player 1 has last been seen on ~"XzL.Clan The Server 13 minutes ago.
05:48 <HellBlade-Arma> not me -.-
05:48 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
05:48 <HellBlade-Arma> #lastseen stewie
05:48 <HellBlade-Arma> sweet ping out
05:48 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: timed out
05:49 <HellBlade-Arma> no more imposter anymore
05:49 <xfroggy> found it!
05:49 <xfroggy> #stone
05:49 <armabot> 2 fat hash joints for guru3 and xfroggy, here you are guys, enjoy morocco stuff.
05:49 <xfroggy> :D
05:49 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
05:53 <HellBlade-Arma> #go failure
05:53 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: Search took 0.09 seconds: Failure - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Failure>; Failure (band) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Failure_(band)>; Google Kills Bush's Miserable Failure Search & Other Google Bombs: <http://searchengineland.com/070125-230048.php>; Failure Magazine: <http://www.failuremag.com/>; BBC (2 more messages)
05:54 <HellBlade-Arma> Google Kills Bush's Miserable Failure Search & Other Google Bombs: <http://searchengineland.com/070125-230048.php>
05:54 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
05:54 <HellBlade-Arma> #more
05:54 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: NEWS | Americas | 'Miserable failure ' links to Bush: <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3298443.stm>; FAILURE: <http://www.failurecomics.com/>; Failure Quotes | Failure Quotations | Failure Sayings | Wisdom Quotes: <http://www.wisdomquotes.com/cat_failure.html>; Failure: <http://despair.com/fail24x30pri.html>; Official Google Blog: Googlebombing ' failure ': (1 more message)
05:54 <HellBlade-Arma> 'Miserable failure ' links to Bush: <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3298443.stm>
05:54 <HellBlade-Arma> #more
05:54 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: <http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2005/09/googlebombing-failure.html>; Heart Failure Society of America: <http://www.hfsa.org/>
05:55 <HellBlade-Arma> win ;P
05:56 * tramshed kicks armabot in the nuts
06:03 <xfroggy> meanie ^
06:05 <tramshed> hah
06:05 <tramshed> he had it comin.
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06:52 <Lucifer_arma> well, I can do without playing atlantic again
06:53 <Lucifer_arma> but the monopoly it plays is pretty fun, even if the ui is lacking in a few places
06:55 <GodTodd> yeah
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> you know, I've been wanting a generic board game for awhile
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> something that plays clue, life, monopoly, etc
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> no ais, as far as I'm concerned, anyway
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> shouldn't be too hard to write, really
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> grab the network layer from eugenics, spend some time generalizing it some more (which it needs anyway, and the code would benefit eugenics by giving it object sync messages, which is where its stalled right now)
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> the server itself could load each game as a module, and let players pick which one they want to play
07:02 <GodTodd> that would rock
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> I've got a clue game to rip the rules from. A monopoly game too, for that matter
07:02 <GodTodd> i might have a life game...not sure tho
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> the client could be all pyqt4 and core python, no external dependencies would be needed. Give it a good windows version at the same time (it would always be on par with the linux version)
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> give it chess, checkers, some card games
07:03 <GodTodd> i think axis and allies over the wire would be cool too
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> the game server could make available certain services, like a bank, card shuffling (module gives it a deck, the server gives a shuffle routine), playing card objects
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> most board games have a lot of things in common, so there would be a lot of shared code. Literally after you have clue and monopoly, and maybe a simple card game like spades or hearts, then adding a new game would be fairly simple, I suspect
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> hell, eugenics could probably integrate with the server, but I'd be more interested in keeping the network layer the same so it could benefit from that
07:06 <GodTodd> probably
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> axis and allies, risk, fortress america (if we can dig up rules for it), stratego
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> lots of board games out there :)
07:06 <GodTodd> yep :)
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> build in stuff to make it "kid safe" from the get-go (so my kids can play it :) )
07:07 <GodTodd> i need to get tommy into the computer more
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> heh, my kids have their own accounts now :)
07:07 <GodTodd> conor will be into it pretty much right away, i suspect
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> they've discovered the kde control panel
07:08 <GodTodd> i might change his laptop to linux
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> they have a little competition going over making the best looking desktop
07:09 <GodTodd> :)
07:09 <Lucifer_arma> then there's battleship, of course
07:09 <Lucifer_arma> the classic game, not the weird kbattleship version that's actually boring as hell
07:09 <GodTodd> the network card his has is airlink...hopefully it's supported decently in linux :)
07:10 <GodTodd> (tho it's pcmcia, not builtin, so if it doesn't work i can get one that will)
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> hell, I could send you one, but it's 802.11b, so not very fast
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> fast enough for most things, though
07:10 <GodTodd> i have to find my box o' parts
07:10 <GodTodd> it's upstairs somewhere
07:11 <GodTodd> need to scrounge a video card anyway
07:11 <GodTodd> my eyes hurt when i have to work on the upstairs server too much ;)
07:14 <Lucifer_arma> heh
07:14 <Lucifer_arma> I use ssh to work on my server :)
07:14 <GodTodd> my server is an xp box
07:14 * GodTodd ducks.
07:15 <Lucifer_arma> heh
07:15 <Lucifer_arma> ubuntu server edition is very nice
07:15 <Lucifer_arma> what's on your server that it has to be xp, anyway?
07:15 <tramshed> cept sh doesnt run bash
07:15 <Lucifer_arma> sh?
07:15 <Lucifer_arma> /bin/sh is usually a symlink to /bin/bash
07:16 <tramshed> not on ubuntu
07:16 <tramshed> just saw a guy have an issue with that
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> don't know that it matters, bash works differently when it's invoked as "sh" anyway
07:16 <tramshed> it mattered for him
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2007-08-15 18:23 sh -> dash
07:16 <tramshed> he got errors coming out of his asshole in legions because of that
07:16 <tramshed> yeah
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> what the hell is dash?
07:16 <GodTodd> nothing is on my server that needs xp...unless there's issues with windows seeing ubuntu directories...
07:16 <tramshed> no one knows...
07:17 <GodTodd> it's got the big drives that we store most crap on
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> This version
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> has many features which make it appear similar in some respects to the Korn shell, but it is not a Korn
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> shell clone (see ksh(1)). Only features designated by POSIX, plus a few Berkeley extensions, are being
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> incorporated into this shell. We expect POSIX conformance by the time 4.4 BSD is released. This man
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> page is not intended to be a tutorial or a complete specification of the shell.
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> oops, sorry for the spam
07:18 <Lucifer_arma> looks like dash comes from bsd
07:18 <tramshed> it doesnt run some shell scripts
07:18 <tramshed> I know that
07:18 <tramshed> dude was getting pissy
07:18 <tramshed> till a1k0n came up with that bit of lore
07:18 <Lucifer_arma> well, a lot of shell scripts expect to be bash and have a lot of bashisms in them that bash lets go even though it's not supposed to
07:18 <HellBlade-Arma> #weather 92037
07:19 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: The current temperature in La Jolla Shores, La Jolla, California is 79.5°F (10:20 PM PDT on August 17, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 66.2°F. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008.0 hPa (Rising).
07:19 <HellBlade-Arma> that's a lie
07:19 <HellBlade-Arma> I'm sweating in here...
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: I haven't tried to setup samba in ubuntu, but if it's like anything else in the server, it should be pretty easy to setup
07:19 <tramshed> let go of that other man
07:19 <HellBlade-Arma> I don't think I sweat at 79.5 degrees (not celsius)
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> um, you'd be scalded at 79.5 C
07:20 <HellBlade-Arma> I know
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> HISTORY
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> A sh command appeared in Version 1 AT&T UNIX. It was, however, unmaintainable so we wrote this one.
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> it's definitely the bsd shell
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> maybe it's the original bsh?
07:21 * Lucifer_arma doubts that, for some reason
07:21 <GodTodd> well...i can't convert that server until i get a bigger hdd/pare down what's stored on it ;)
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> why's that?
07:21 <tramshed> I wanna know why they dont just fuckin use bash like a normal person
07:21 <GodTodd> there's documents we want to keep there
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> well, migrating isn't going to be something wher eyou just pop the disc in and go, but you should be able to do exactly what you do now with it
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> unless you need it to serve RDP sessions or something
07:22 <GodTodd> and 60GB of it is music files and stuff
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> which, now that I think about it, you should probably enable and use rdesktop to access it
07:23 <Lucifer_arma> the problem in migrating is you have to backup the whole thing so you can reformat with a sane filesystem
07:23 <Lucifer_arma> I need to get the printer working on my desktop server (heh, what else am I going to call it?)
07:23 <GodTodd> i know
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> then I intend to use the ssh filesystem program to mount up the shared directory, and let unison sync it
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> maybe I can unionfs it? *wonders*
07:25 <Lucifer_arma> if you popped in another hard drive that was the same size, you could get it all setup using a dual boot system, and then copy the files over
07:25 <Lucifer_arma> reading ntfs isn't a problem, afaik, it's writing it that's tricky
07:25 <GodTodd> ummm iirc that's a 120GB HDD
07:26 <GodTodd> i don't have one of those laying around :)
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> they're not that expensive.... ;)
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> hell, I got 300GB for $120 awhile back
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> kill two birds with one stone, pick up a hard drive to use for backups :)
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07:27 <GodTodd> yeah...i just have to convince karen that we *need* one ;)
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> or declare you'll use the one that's in there for backups and pick up a new system drive
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> well, do you do backups currently?
07:27 <GodTodd> not full backups...we just move crap to the network drives
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> then you *need* one
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> and the best backup program around is backuppc, which afaik requires linux to run
07:28 <GodTodd> yeah...not a lot of choice for free win backups
07:28 <Lucifer_arma> here we go, building pyqt4 again
07:28 <GodTodd> and they all suck
07:28 <Lucifer_arma> backuppc is very nice. It'll even email you when it hasn't seen your machine in awhile
07:28 <Lucifer_arma> you have to have samba installed for it to backup windows machines
07:29 <Lucifer_arma> but it'll backup every macchine you've got, and it optimizes so that when two or more computers have the same stuff, it only saves one copy
07:29 <GodTodd> yeah...the ubuntu livecd locks up for me when i try to fuck with samba on it
07:29 <Lucifer_arma> that was my primary motivation behind getting all machines on the same OS, actually
07:29 <Lucifer_arma> and as of a day ago or so, I finally did it :)
07:30 <Lucifer_arma> which reminds me, I need to apt-get upgrade on the terminal server
07:30 <GodTodd> i need to reconfigure my whole network, actually...it wasn't going to be a network til i got wireless working...then we kept adding machines, printers, etc.
07:30 * Lucifer_arma now has two servers :/
07:30 <GodTodd> now it's just a patchwork
07:30 <Lucifer_arma> haha
07:30 <Lucifer_arma> mine's been planned from very early on, it's just that I only ever execute half of the plan at a time, then change the plan
07:31 <Lucifer_arma> hell, I'm still technically not done migrating the server. The eugenics site isn't up yet
07:31 <GodTodd> i'm not changing much of anything (except maybe tommy's box) until i think it through
07:31 <Lucifer_arma> probably a good plan, just make sure you put backups in it somewhere
07:31 <Lucifer_arma> I got seriously bit by not having a good backup system in place awhile back, lost money over it, in fact
07:31 <Lucifer_arma> a fair amount. :/
07:31 <GodTodd> yeah...that's why i want it sane
07:31 <Lucifer_arma> so now I'm feeling a bit antsy not knowing if it's running right now
07:32 <GodTodd> so that i can have regular backups
07:32 <Lucifer_arma> well, check out backuppc. It's a little hard to configure, but it's well worth it, and it helps to plan your network :)
07:32 <Lucifer_arma> #google backuppc
07:32 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Search took 0.09 seconds: BackupPC : Open Source Backup to disk: <http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/>; BackupPC Documentation: <http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/faq/BackupPC.html>; Back Up Linux And Windows Systems With BackupPC | HowtoForge ...: <http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_backuppc>; SourceForge.net: BackupPC: <http://sourceforge.net/projects/backuppc/>; BackupPC Installation (2 more messages)
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07:33 <Lucifer_arma> ubuntu server edition gives you a nice setup, too. If you've got enough parts laying around, it might even be worthwhile to assemble a separate machine to run backups
07:33 <GodTodd> i have a lil old 98 machine
07:33 <Lucifer_arma> since ubuntu server edition installs in under 500 MB with a LAMP server, it should go in pretty easily with just apache/perl/backuppc
07:33 <Lucifer_arma> don't need mysql then
07:34 <Lucifer_arma> throw on a caching dns server and you'll be amazed how much faster the internet seems just to do dns lookups locally on your lan
07:35 <GodTodd> heh
07:35 <Lucifer_arma> I setup the dns server to give the same IP address to my laptop every time, and reserve it thataway, so now my laptop is configured dhcp and works anywhere
07:35 <GodTodd> crap...i have to figure out why this card isn't seeing the network :/
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> er, I meant dhcp server, not dns server
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> I turned off dhcp in my router so I could have my server handle it
07:37 <Lucifer_arma> long term plan is to get a network switch and wireless hub and run all network traffic through my server
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07:37 <MrBougo> hiho DrJoeTron
07:37 <Lucifer_arma> hey joe, you missed the monopoly game
07:37 <MrBougo> what monopoly game?
07:37 <Lucifer_arma> the one we played earlier
07:37 <DrJoeTron> i tend to miss alot of shit
07:37 <tramshed> haha
07:37 <Lucifer_arma> vanhayes kicked our asses
07:37 <tramshed> I just registered the on slashnet
07:38 <tramshed> I own
07:38 <Lucifer_arma> the on slashnet? wtf?
07:38 <Lucifer_arma> the domain?
07:38 <tramshed> some ircop is gonna see that and be like "Dumbass, gline."
07:38 <tramshed> the nickname
07:38 <Lucifer_arma> the nickname "the"?
07:38 <tramshed> yeah
07:38 <tramshed> so now I can do shit like this
07:38 * tramshed end
07:38 <Lucifer_arma> slashnet, or slashdot?
07:38 <tramshed> and it looks cool
07:38 <tramshed> slashnet
07:38 <Lucifer_arma> ah, irc network, ok
07:39 <tramshed> yeah
07:39 * Lucifer_arma Real Slim Shady
07:41 <MrBougo> haha
07:41 <GodTodd> oh...yeah...windows
07:41 <MrBougo> his was k-lined on freenode
07:41 <GodTodd> just had to enable the card :)
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> do you wonder if spammers ever complain about all the spam they get?
07:43 <tramshed> hah
07:44 <Lucifer_arma> hey, I learned an Evil Linux Lesson the hard way not too long ago
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07:44 <Lucifer_arma> turns out linux also caches writes to a usb stick
07:44 <Lucifer_arma> so you still have to "safely remove hardware" on it to flush those writes
07:44 <MrBougo> weeeee
07:45 <Lucifer_arma> there's a kde panel applet to make it easy to do that you might want to look into
07:45 <MrBougo> umount isnt enough?
07:45 <Lucifer_arma> would be nice if linux didn't do the brain dead thing in the first place
07:45 <Lucifer_arma> having to go to a terminal to remove a usb stick is a little excessively geeky, isn't it?
07:46 <MrBougo> um
07:46 <MrBougo> having to go to a terminal on linux isnt
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> yes it is
07:46 <tramshed> I never had a problem
07:46 <MrBougo> you know that you've got to do this one day when you're using linux
07:46 <tramshed> lucifer, just make an icon that runs a script
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> what's wrong with using a KDE panel applet?!?!?!?
07:47 <MrBougo> nothing!
07:47 <tramshed> KDE!
07:47 <MrBougo> yay for KDE
07:47 <MrBougo> there was that applet with two eyes
07:47 <MrBougo> oh no that was on gnome
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> the one that always looks at the mouse cursor?
07:47 <MrBougo> yup!
07:47 <tramshed> KDE FTL!
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> you got anything better?
07:48 <tramshed> xfce4
07:48 * Lucifer_arma doubts it, because there isn't anything better
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> heh
07:48 <tramshed> kde is a bloated turd
07:48 <MrBougo> lol, xfce
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> xfce4 isn't even good enough to be the shit on the bottom of my shoe
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> xfce isn't bloated?
07:48 <tramshed> uh, no
07:48 <MrBougo> kde is yummy
07:48 <MrBougo> the only thing i dislike is that global spellcheck
07:49 <tramshed> xfce takes 2 seconds to start from running startx on the crapass laptop
07:49 <MrBougo> no way to disbale it without uninstalling
07:49 <MrBougo> tramshed: we dont have a crapass laptop
07:49 <MrBougo> why would we use xfce
07:49 <tramshed> kde still sucks
07:49 <MrBougo> we have enough performances
07:49 <tramshed> because it sexys.
07:49 <MrBougo> BUT
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> spam alert
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> The following NEW packages will be installed:
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> gamin gconf2 gnome-keyring gnome-mount gtk2-engines-xfce libexo-0.3-0 libgamin0 libgnome-keyring0 libnotify1
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> libthunar-vfs-1-2 libxfce4mcs-client3 libxfce4mcs-manager3 libxfce4util4 libxfcegui4-4 libxklavier11
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> shared-mime-info thunar xfce4 xfce4-icon-theme xfce4-mcs-manager xfce4-mcs-plugins xfce4-panel xfce4-session
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> xfce4-utils xfdesktop4 xfwm4 xfwm4-themes
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> 0 upgraded, 27 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
07:49 <MrBougo> i agree with you
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> that's not bloat?
07:49 <MrBougo> :p
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> look at all the gnome shit that it needs
07:50 <tramshed> thats dependencies
07:50 <MrBougo> HAHA
07:50 <tramshed> its gtk
07:50 <tramshed> look at the dependency tree for kde
07:50 <tramshed> its like 30 things
07:50 <MrBougo> :p
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> that's 27
07:50 <MrBougo> and thats like 27
07:50 <MrBougo> aw
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> hell, being gtk is a disadvantage
07:50 <tramshed> pfft
07:50 <tramshed> most things are gtk
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> ever try to code with gtk?
07:50 <MrBougo> i'm using a gtk client :(
07:50 <tramshed> you just want to justify your crapass wm
07:51 <tramshed> Its windows on linux!
07:51 <MrBougo> kde is the best
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> no, I don't, because I think KDE is a big-ass turd
07:51 <MrBougo> it has kolf
07:51 <tramshed> hah
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> I just happen to think it's better than all the other turds out there
07:51 <MrBougo> even better than tiger woods
07:51 <tramshed> how many processes does kde run when it starts up? like 40?
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> something like that
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> but unlike xfce4, most of what KDE starts up keeps running
07:51 <tramshed> Ill stick to xfce
07:51 <MrBougo> i have 48 procs running
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> doesn't crash, etc.
07:52 <tramshed> ive never had anything crash in xfce4
07:52 <tramshed> kde on the other hand has went stupid many times
07:52 <Lucifer_arma> I've never had xfce4 start up without 90% of its shit crashing
07:52 <Lucifer_arma> well, once, using xubuntu livecd
07:52 <tramshed> how the fuck did you break xfce4
07:52 <MrBougo> lawl, when these guys decided to do multiple GUIs, they wanted a GUI World War
07:52 <Lucifer_arma> I didn't, that was freshly installed on a hard drive that didn't even have KDE yet
07:52 <Lucifer_arma> gentoo, mandriva, made no difference
07:52 <tramshed> xfce4 is a nice balance between functionality and speed
07:53 <tramshed> if I want pure speed I use fluxbox
07:53 <tramshed> heh, I know for a fact gentoo installs xfce4 fine
07:53 <MrBougo> you guys are both right
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, takes away all the useful stuff in a desktop, delivers a bunch of gtk-infested crap, and does it quickly
07:53 <tramshed> so YOU fucked something up
07:53 <MrBougo> but kde is yummy, you cant explain
07:53 <MrBougo> gears <3
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> eh? I left gentoo because it was such a pain in the ass :)
07:53 <tramshed> you must have a slow computer
07:53 <MrBougo> and now youre using kubuntu?
07:53 <tramshed> HAR!
07:54 <Lucifer_arma> yes
07:54 <MrBougo> yay for kubuntu
07:54 <tramshed> dash ftl!
07:54 <MrBougo> but theres a lack of packages on the cd imho
07:54 <MrBougo> but its only one cd, and thats a good thing
07:54 <tramshed> Ill stick to my gentoo
07:54 <Lucifer_arma> only problem I've had so far was that the armagetronad-master initscript expects /bin/sh to be a symlink to bash
07:54 <tramshed> where everything works, and I can install anything I like
07:55 <Lucifer_arma> man, most of what gentoo had didn't work for me out of the box
07:55 <tramshed> like?
07:55 <Lucifer_arma> gentoo documentation gets you about halfway through configuring, then has TODO in big letters
07:55 <tramshed> wtf are you talking about?
07:55 <MrBougo> haha
07:55 <tramshed> gentoo docs are known for being the most extensive out there
07:55 <Lucifer_arma> and gentoo's community is a bunch of elitist self-worshipping jerks, so wehenver you ask for help, it's "YOU fucked something up, YOU fix it"
07:55 <MrBougo> omg
07:55 <Lucifer_arma> not from people actually using them :)
07:56 <tramshed> hah
07:56 <tramshed> I think you didnt rtfm.
07:56 <Lucifer_arma> gentoo commits the ultimate sin, in fact
07:56 <Lucifer_arma> it totally rearranges every package so that even the package's original documentation no longer applies
07:56 <Lucifer_arma> worse yet, ubuntu's repositories are bigger :)
07:56 <tramshed> lies
07:56 <Lucifer_arma> more stuff, and you don't have to wait 3 days for a package to install
07:56 <tramshed> gentoo has everything
07:56 <Lucifer_arma> no it doesn't
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> had to keep building from upstream sources for shit gentoo didn't have
07:57 <tramshed> what doesnt gentoo have?
07:57 <MrBougo> kde!
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> arma 0.2.8 :)
07:57 <tramshed> its there
07:57 <tramshed> just masked
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> oh right, masked
07:57 <MrBougo> thats the two most impoortant thing heh Lucifer_arma
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> ubuntu doesn't have it either, though
07:57 <tramshed> no one has officially tested it for them yet
07:58 <tramshed> once someone does itll get unmasked im sure
07:58 <tramshed> they think arma is a dead program
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> gentoo's version of Qt4 was ancient
07:58 <MrBougo> lol!
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> pyqt4 too, for that matter
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> now, it's true that ubuntu's pyqt4 is broken
07:58 <tramshed> 4.3 is in the stable
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> but that's only a temporary condition. :)
07:59 <Lucifer_arma> gentoo was on 4.1 when 4.2 was current, and I left it behind when it was still in that state
07:59 <Lucifer_arma> I needed 4.2 for the graphicsview stuff
07:59 <tramshed> 4.4.3 is the latest available
07:59 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, did I mention it was a server? So I wasn't unmasking shit anyway
08:00 <tramshed> you dont have to unmask everything
08:00 <tramshed> just add the specific packages you want
08:00 <tramshed> you really didnt rtfm, heh
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> there's a google search attached to that
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> no, I rtfm'd until I was so sick of the OS that I switched it out
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> face it, not everybody loves gentoo
08:00 <tramshed> not everybody can read
08:01 <tramshed> hehe
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I'm an illiterate prick who just switched out from windows....
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> have you been living in a cave or something all these years? ;)
08:01 <tramshed> seriously though, liking gentoo or not, the stuff you are complaining about is all in the portage handbook, which is part of the installation guide
08:02 <tramshed> I know ubuntu is nice, ive heard a lot ofpeople talking about it, but nothing compares to gentoo imo
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> which I read, the point you're missing is that it didn't apply
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> some simple things, like unmasking specific packages were fine, just annoying to do
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> most things, you follow the docs step by step, and when it doesn't work, you google it, and usually find an irc log or a mailing list post where someone posts the question,
08:04 <MrBougo> theres something better than xfce
08:04 <MrBougo> ratpoison!
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> gets an answer that reads "We just haven't updated the docs yet"/"it's a bug that hasn't been fixed yet", then asks when the docs will be updated,
08:04 <MrBougo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratpoison
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> and gets the answer "we're too busy working on the new verison"
08:04 <tramshed> Lucifer_arma, thats why the forums exist
08:04 <tramshed> they have the answer for everything
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> yes, but they're not willing to give it, because the gentoo community is a bunch of elitist self-worshipping jerks
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> didn't I say that already?
08:05 <MrBougo> slackware!
08:05 <MrBougo> ratpoison!
08:05 <tramshed> well, you have fun with dash
08:05 <MrBougo> heh, my !'s are aligned
08:05 <tramshed> ill have fun with >1000fps in tron
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> just remember, the founder (what's-his-face) rejoined the dev community and got chased out in 2 weeks
08:05 <MrBougo> haha
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> gentoo isn't what it used to be
08:06 <Lucifer_arma> heh, > 1000fps, what's your monitor's refresh rate? :)
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> well, dean's a cat 4 now, and headed for mexico
08:09 <GodTodd> wtf did i put my 6.10 livecd?
08:09 <MrBougo> lol?
08:09 <GodTodd> bah...i should make a feisty one anyway
08:10 <MrBougo> oO
08:10 <MrBougo> GodTodd: ubuntu or kubuntu?
08:10 <MrBougo> or xubuntu
08:10 <MrBougo> or edubuntu
08:10 <GodTodd> i run ubuntu
08:10 <MrBougo> 4°, definitely
08:10 <MrBougo> oh lol
08:10 <GodTodd> but use kde :)
08:10 <MrBougo> hehe
08:11 <MrBougo> they should mv ubuntu gubuntu
08:11 <GodTodd> i think i'll probably make my son's laptop kubuntu
08:12 <MrBougo> hehe :)
08:12 <MrBougo> does he like linux?
08:12 <GodTodd> linux has far better kids games
08:12 <MrBougo> agreed
08:12 <GodTodd> he's never used it :)
08:12 <MrBougo> potato man
08:12 <MrBougo> or something
08:12 <GodTodd> but he's 9 so he shouldn't be swayed by the evil empire just yet :)
08:13 <MrBougo> haha
08:13 <MrBougo> so he wont be like me
08:13 <MrBougo> #quote get 48
08:13 <armabot> MrBougo: Quote #48: "i'm a woindwos user --MrBougo" (added by Lucifer_arma at 09:12 AM, June 24, 2007)
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-bombers18aug18,0,7810658.story?coll=la-home-center
08:18 <GodTodd> oh...how's linux on copying protected dvds?
08:21 <Lucifer_arma> you have to download and compile libdvdcss yourself
08:22 <Lucifer_arma> other than that, I think mplayer and xine will use it if it's there
08:22 <Lucifer_arma> it used to be that you had to build mplayer and xine yourself as well, but I think they've fixed taht a bit
08:24 <GodTodd> so...it can do it, right?
08:24 <GodTodd> that's the other main thing i use that box for
08:24 <GodTodd> and i had to crack windows to do it ;)
08:24 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, it can do it, you just have to install libdvdcss yourself
08:24 <Lucifer_arma> you might have to do a little magic on the dvd drive, like set the region
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> I had to do that on an oem dvd drive I bought
08:25 <GodTodd> as long as it can do it, that's good enough for me
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> you might now, try it and see :)
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> it can, and it's pretty easy
08:25 <GodTodd> good
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> worst that happens is you have to install a bunch of -dev packages for codecs so you can build a useful mplayer
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> but I think ubuntu's mplayer will use your own built libdvdcss if it's there
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> haven't tried it myself, though
08:26 <Lucifer_arma> the issue is that you're breaking the law when you use libdvdcss, even if you're doing normal legitimate viewing
08:26 <GodTodd> i don't have to do it often (i like to back up the kids' dvds and give them the copies) but i need it to be there :)
08:26 <GodTodd> yeah
08:26 <GodTodd> i'm already breaking the law tho
08:26 <GodTodd> so *shrug*
08:26 <GodTodd> heh
08:26 <Lucifer_arma> also, you can get all of the windows codecs working in mplayer
08:27 <Lucifer_arma> there's a package you can install, I think it's even available in the repos
08:27 <GodTodd> score! the utd lug has a kubuntu mirror :)
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> hey, you haven't happened to have found a good home inventory program, have you?
08:28 <GodTodd> the kubuntu dl is automatically a livecd and install cd right?
08:28 <GodTodd> haven't really looked
08:30 * GodTodd is downloading the kubuntu iso in preparation for (possibly) upgrading his son's laptop.
08:32 <GodTodd> oh... Lucifer_arma, did i tell you i pulled a B in calc 2?
08:32 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, you did
08:32 <GodTodd> ah ok :)
08:33 <MrBougo> damn dell
08:33 <GodTodd> they're already dmaned :)
08:33 <MrBougo> i want a freakin 17" NOT widescreen
08:34 <GodTodd> damned too
08:34 <MrBougo> and THEY DONT HAVE THOSE
08:34 <MrBougo> fuckers
08:34 <MrBougo> 17" wide is USELESS
08:34 <MrBougo> i dont wanna watch films!
08:35 <MrBougo> i should mail them
08:36 <MrBougo> damn laptops
08:36 <MrBougo> they are nic
08:36 <MrBougo> e
08:36 <MrBougo> but they are wide
08:36 <MrBougo> crap
08:40 <Lucifer_arma> man, there's a program for tracking menstrual cycles, and there's no home inventory program?
08:42 <GodTodd> haha
08:43 <MrBougo> http://www.explosm.net/comics/982/
08:44 <MrBougo> now this sounds nice
08:44 <MrBougo> core 2 duo
08:45 <MrBougo> nvidia GC
08:45 <MrBougo> 2gigs dual channel
08:45 <MrBougo> 9 cells
08:45 <MrBougo> 1305€
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08:45 <MrBougo> these dell guys are lame
08:46 * GodTodd is running fine on a $400 laptop :)
08:46 <philippeqc> morning'
08:46 <MrBougo> they ask me if i want no firewall (french version) or no firewall (dutch version)
08:46 <MrBougo> hiho philippeqc
08:46 <MrBougo> GodTodd: i wanna be able to play nexuiz too heh
08:46 <philippeqc> hello Mr B
08:47 <MrBougo> hay
08:47 <MrBougo> harr!
08:48 <philippeqc> Feeling a little pirate today?
08:48 <MrBougo> DrJoeTron: i guess youre playing soe flash game
08:48 <MrBougo> yep, its right next to me, philippeqc
08:48 <DrJoeTron> huh?
08:48 <MrBougo> and i'm feeling it
08:48 <MrBougo> but he doesnt like that
08:48 <MrBougo> some flash game*
08:48 <philippeqc> ;)
08:48 <DrJoeTron> what are you talking about
08:48 <MrBougo> dunno, youre the flash game guy here Joe
08:49 <MrBougo> so what's the best flash game in your opinion
08:49 <DrJoeTron> elf bowling 13
08:50 <MrBougo> the hell
08:50 <MrBougo> but you have to download it :(
08:50 <MrBougo> any browser flash game?
08:52 <DrJoeTron> i was kidding
08:53 <philippeqc> youtube is a fun browser flash thingy
09:33 <MrBougo> wee
09:33 <MrBougo> linerider
09:33 <MrBougo> just done a stupid track
09:34 <MrBougo> with a wheelie!
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09:42 <tramshed__> die tramshed.
09:47 <MrBougo> :p
09:47 <MrBougo> /ns ghost tramshed <password>
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10:06 <MrBougo> tramshed__:
10:06 <MrBougo> you can nick back
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10:10 <tramshed> woot
10:10 <MrBougo> :
10:10 <MrBougo> =D
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10:10 <tramshed> this vid card gets 850fps in tron with everything on/maxed at 1680x1050
10:10 <Bougo> does freenode kick the name stealers?
10:11 <tramshed> it changes your nick for you
10:11 <Bougo> ?
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11:39 <MrBougo> im back, fear me
11:39 <MrBougo> #realchatlogs
11:39 <armabot> MrBougo: http://master3.armagetronad.net/armalogs/
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11:55 <MrBougo> bye
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17:33 <ghableska> #tea
17:33 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (4/32): -]0a|Deidara, : ), Bl00d, ~|DS|~ judders
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21:00 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
21:00 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 63°F / 17°C | Humidity: 69% | Pressure: 29.64in / 1004hPa | Conditions: Light Rain Showers | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 16mph / 26km/h | Updated: 3:00 PM ADT; Tonight - Showers with a few thundershowers ending this evening then cloudy periods. Local amount 15 mm(0.6 in) in thundershowers. Wind northwest 20 km/h (12 mph). Low 10C(50F).; Sunday - A mix of sun and cloud. (1 more message)
21:00 <Vanhayes> #weather mexico
21:00 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
21:00 <Vanhayes> #weather mexico city
21:01 <armabot> Vanhayes: The current temperature in Zona Poniente D.F., Mexico, Mexico is 68.2°F (2:03 PM CDT on August 18, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 55.4°F. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011.4 hPa (Rising).
21:01 <Vanhayes> #weather cairo
21:01 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 84°F / 29°C | Humidity: 62% | Pressure: 29.77in / 1008hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 9mph / 15km/h | Updated: 10:00 PM EEST; Clear. High:96 ° F. / 36 ° C.; Clear. Low:73 ° F. / 23 ° C.; Clear. High:95 ° F. / 35 ° C.; Clear. Low:73 ° F. / 23 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. High:93 ° F. / 34 ° C.; Clear. Low:73 ° F. / 23 ° C.;
21:01 <HellBlade-Arma> #weather 92037
21:01 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: The current temperature in La Jolla Shores, La Jolla, California is 78.4°F (12:04 PM PDT on August 18, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 69.8°F. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008.0 hPa (Falling).
21:01 <HellBlade-Arma> yay it's cool today
21:02 <Vanhayes> same here, its been raining all day
21:02 <Vanhayes> #more
21:02 <armabot> Vanhayes: 40 percent chance of showers late in the day. Wind west 20 km/h (12 mph). High 19C(66F). UV index 6 or high. Sunday night cloudy periods. Low 8C(46F).; Monday - A mix of sun and cloud. High 18C(64F).;
21:02 <HellBlade-Arma> your lucky there isn't a south wind ;P
21:03 <Vanhayes> why? whats in the south?
21:04 <HellBlade-Arma> hmmm?
21:05 <HellBlade-Arma> #lastseen Oblivion
21:05 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: ~*SP*~Oblivion seems to be on Wild West =Sumo= right now.
21:05 <HellBlade-Arma> I knew it lol
21:06 <HellBlade-Arma> #lastseen monkey
21:06 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: sp.monkey-devil seems to be on Wild West =Sumo= right now.
21:06 <Vanhayes> hmm, monkey as in the monkey who plays fort all the time?
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21:54 <HellBlade-Arma> no
22:21 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
22:21 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 91.2°F (3:26 PM CDT on August 18, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 69.8°F. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012.1 hPa (Falling).
22:35 <Lucifer_arma> dean isn't going to hit us
22:36 <Lucifer_arma> it's just going to bounce off central texas and hit someone else, if it gets this far north (we're in the projected track, but not until thursday, which means we can't rely on the projections yet)
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22:53 <ghableska> #weather 50266
22:53 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 87.3°F (3:53 PM CDT on August 18, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 71.6°F. Pressure: 28.93 in 979.6 hPa (Falling).
23:05 <ghableska> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6953374.stm <-- "A man in Florida surprised police by handing in a surface-to-air missile launcher during a gun amnesty in the city of Orlando."
23:08 <xfroggy> lol I'd have some fun first :D
23:08 <ghableska> I think that was a crappy trade
23:08 <ghableska> a missile launcher for designer footwear? o_O
23:08 <xfroggy> lol, must be expensive
23:08 <ghableska> must be
23:08 <ghableska> Vanhayes: ping
23:09 <xfroggy> with the amount of guns they found, he could of created his own little army :D
23:09 <ghableska> haha
23:14 <ghableska> http://subservientchicken.com/
23:14 <ghableska> hmmm
23:29 <spidey> #weather 38256
23:29 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 99.9°F (4:35 PM CDT on August 18, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 24%. Dew Point: 57.2°F. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Falling). Heat advisory in effect from 1 PM to 8 PM CDT Sunday...
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23:33 <blahblah161> test
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Log from 2007-08-19:
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00:50 <ghableska> #armaservers
00:50 <armabot> ghableska: This data is 28 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (12/14), Fortress Café (11/32), Wild West =Capture The Flag= (10/10), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (7/12), ë | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ì/xff9900 (6/16), Norm's Place (6/12), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (6/12), (???) Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da (5/16), Swampland in 2.7.1 (5/8), Swampland in (2 more messages)
00:50 <ghableska> #tea
00:50 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (11/32): G5, Georges, GNU, Hippy, Minefield, Player 1, SageLord, T V M, ~cOw~, ¦Ö¦$µbzero, ¦×¥Rico
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01:27 <HellBlade-Arma> #armaservers
01:27 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: This data is 26 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (10/14), Wild West =Capture The Flag= (9/10), Wild West =Sumo= (Arizona) (7/14), SPACEZONE (7/15), ë | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ì/xff9900 (6/16), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (6/12), .:vD}Victory Over Death Server (5/8), Norm's Place (5/12), Wild West =Fortress Shootout= (5/12), -=}ID< (2 more messages)
01:27 <HellBlade-Arma> #more
01:27 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (4/12), Fortress Café (4/32), Swampland II (3/8), Swampland in 2.7.1 (3/8), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (3/12), H2H|Sealfight (2/10), Strawberry Fields (2/16), Swampland in 2.7.1 (Europe) (2/8), [Nano's Playground] | TRAPDOOR MADNESS MODE! | (2/16), Tigers Network Classic Play (2/16), [] Cheers! [] A clone of Norms Place, by Angel. (1/12), The YELLOW (1 more message)
01:27 <HellBlade-Arma> #more
01:27 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: Submarine (1/16), Sly'sServeR (1/16), messy Team slaughter (1/10)
01:59 <Vanhayes> pong
01:59 <HellBlade-Arma> Vanhayes: ping
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02:19 <HellBlade-Arma> #ping
02:19 <armabot> pong
02:19 <HellBlade-Arma> #png
02:20 <HellBlade-Arma> awww
02:20 <HellBlade-Arma> #pong
02:20 <HellBlade-Arma> (tear)
02:20 <HellBlade-Arma> #ping
02:20 <HellBlade-Arma> #ping
02:20 <armabot> pong
02:20 <HellBlade-Arma> #ping
02:20 <armabot> pong
02:20 <HellBlade-Arma> #ping
02:20 <armabot> pong
02:20 <HellBlade-Arma> #ping
02:20 <HellBlade-Arma> #ping
02:20 <armabot> pong
02:20 <HellBlade-Arma> #ping
02:20 <HellBlade-Arma> #ping
02:20 <HellBlade-Arma> #ping
02:20 <armabot> pong
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02:20 <HellBlade-Arma> #ping
02:20 <armabot> pong
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02:20 <HellBlade-Arma> #ping
02:20 <armabot> pong
02:20 <armabot> pong
02:20 <armabot> pong
02:20 <HellBlade-Arma> EPIC WIN!
02:20 <HellBlade-Arma> #monologue
02:20 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: Your current monologue is at least 19 lines long.
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02:32 <Lucifer_arma> yep, I've decided to do it
02:32 <tramshed> haha
02:32 <tramshed> armagetron is being dumb
02:32 <Lucifer_arma> I'm going to factor out the network and game object stuff from eugenics into a separate library
02:32 <Lucifer_arma> tramshed: rtfm
02:33 <tramshed> Trying to start sound. Just restart Armagetron Advanced in case of crash.
02:33 <tramshed> Couldn't set video mode: X11 driver not configured with OpenGL
02:33 <tramshed> Couldn't set video mode: X11 driver not configured with OpenGL
02:33 <tramshed> Couldn't set video mode: X11 driver not configured with OpenGL
02:33 <tramshed> Couldn't set video mode: X11 driver not configured with OpenGL
02:33 <tramshed> Couldn't set video mode: X11 driver not configured with OpenGL
02:33 <tramshed> Couldn't set video mode: X11 driver not configured with OpenGL
02:33 <tramshed> Couldn't set video mode: X11 driver not configured with OpenGL
02:33 <tramshed> Couldn't set video mode: X11 driver not configured with OpenGL
02:33 <tramshed> Couldn't set video mode: X11 driver not configured with OpenGL
02:33 <tramshed> Couldn't set video mode: X11 driver not configured with OpenGL
02:33 <tramshed> Couldn't set video mode: X11 driver not configured with OpenGL
02:33 <tramshed> Couldn't set video mode: X11 driver not configured with OpenGL
02:33 <tramshed> Couldn't set video mode: X11 driver not configured with OpenGL
02:33 <tramshed> Couldn't set video mode: X11 driver not configured with OpenGL
02:33 <tramshed> Error: Error in bool sr_InitDisplay() in /var/tmp/portage/games-action/armagetronad-0.2.8.2.1/work/armagetronad-0.2.8.2.1/src/render/rScreen.cpp:737 :
02:33 <tramshed>
02:33 <tramshed> Sorry, played all my cards trying to initialize your video system.
02:33 <tramshed> Armagetron Advanced won't run on your computer. Reason:
02:33 <tramshed> Couldn't set video mode: X11 driver not configured with OpenGL
02:33 <tramshed> I'll try again from the beginning, but the chances of success are minimal.
02:33 <tramshed> opengl works fine.
02:33 <tramshed> armagetron is being dumb
02:33 <tramshed> I can play ut2k4 and vendetta fine, heh
02:42 <spidey> i just walked a mile for nothing -.-
02:42 <spidey> at the store down the road, the owner will sell me cigarettes, but this time they had a new girl working
02:42 <spidey> and she carded me ;(
02:46 <NeoThermic> and you're old enough to buy them?
02:46 <Vanhayes> I havent been carded since I was 16
02:47 <NeoThermic> I get carded often going into pubs/clubs, but thats SOP here, so it isn't anything against me
02:47 <Vanhayes> coincidently thats when i started growing facial hair/shaving every other or 2 days
02:48 <Vanhayes> and in about a month and a half I wont care if I get carded
02:48 <NeoThermic> I love getting carded
02:49 <NeoThermic> as I then ask them if they want US or UK identification :P
02:51 <tramshed> I only get carded when I dont have my id
02:51 <NeoThermic> ah. Are you called Murphey by any chance? ;)
02:54 <spidey> NeoThermic, no i'm not
02:54 <spidey> i'm 17, age is 18
02:54 <NeoThermic> for cigs?
02:54 <spidey> ya
02:55 <NeoThermic> what sane country is this?!
02:55 <spidey> usa...
02:55 <NeoThermic> good god. I take that back.
02:55 <spidey> lol
02:55 <NeoThermic> 16 to drive, 18 to smoke, but 21 to drink.
02:55 <spidey> stupid, heh
02:55 <NeoThermic> but only 18 to die for your country in a war you might not support!
02:55 <spidey> actually you can drive at 14
02:55 <spidey> if you can get a hardship
02:55 <NeoThermic> just god be damned should you want to celebrate the fact that you survived :P
02:56 <spidey> haha
02:56 <NeoThermic> I wish they'd raise the smoking age to 18 here.
02:56 <NeoThermic> currently it's 18 to drive, drink, but 16 to smoke.
02:57 <NeoThermic> however, it's illegal to do all three at the same time.
02:57 <NeoThermic> spidey: ah well. Consider this the first hint that you might wish to give up smoking? :)
02:59 <Vanhayes> its 19 in theory for canada
03:00 <NeoThermic> for which?
03:00 <Vanhayes> 19 for smokes, booze, fireworks, and maybe porn
03:00 <spidey> NeoThermic, fuck that
03:00 <NeoThermic> not too bad
03:00 <spidey> wtf
03:01 <spidey> fireworks?
03:01 <spidey> has a age limit?
03:01 <NeoThermic> oh, fireworks are 18 here
03:01 <NeoThermic> yes
03:01 <Vanhayes> 15 for permit, 16 to drive, 14 in alberta to drive
03:01 <spidey> rofl, you can get them here at any age
03:01 <NeoThermic> they do in the US As well
03:01 <spidey> some parts
03:01 <spidey> the big cities maybe
03:01 <HellBlade-Arma> hayes you have to be 19 for porn?
03:01 <spidey> but not where i live
03:01 <HellBlade-Arma> good god that's terrible
03:01 <Vanhayes> you fireworks is like our smoke im guessing, barely anyone ids
03:01 <Vanhayes> your*
03:02 <Vanhayes> smokes*
03:02 <HellBlade-Arma> lol I'm 15 and I buy porn ;P
03:02 <HellBlade-Arma> good ol' so cal
03:02 <NeoThermic> spidey: which state?
03:02 <spidey> tennessee
03:02 <Vanhayes> why buy porn when the internet is throwing it at you everywhere
03:03 <NeoThermic> spidey: AOP is 10
03:03 <HellBlade-Arma> I've only bought porn twice actually but I have done it
03:03 <Vanhayes> i think alberta and quebec are 18 to drink
03:03 <HellBlade-Arma> the rest I dl
03:03 <HellBlade-Arma> ;P
03:03 <NeoThermic> although they are date-limited to set parts of the year
03:03 <Vanhayes> im sure alberta is not positive about the frenchies
03:03 <HellBlade-Arma> what age can you drink is Ireland?
03:03 <HellBlade-Arma> in**
03:03 <Vanhayes> when you old enough to hold the bottle without dropping it
03:04 <NeoThermic> 18 in (Republic of) Ireland
03:04 <Vanhayes> what about the north?
03:04 <HellBlade-Arma> it's the uk
03:04 <NeoThermic> that falls under UK law, so 18 too
03:05 <NeoThermic> well, 18 in most cases
03:05 <HellBlade-Arma> darn
03:05 <NeoThermic> there are legal exceptions
03:05 <HellBlade-Arma> I was hoping to chill out at the pubs there drinking some guiness
03:05 <NeoThermic> HellBlade-Arma: age?
03:05 <HellBlade-Arma> 15
03:05 <Vanhayes> around here the cops Might get you to pour out you drink if you look too young and dont have an ID
03:05 <spidey> rofl
03:05 <spidey> i love bets that i can't lose
03:06 <NeoThermic> bleh, you don't even fall under the special exceptions
03:06 <HellBlade-Arma> I know -.-
03:06 <spidey> my brother said i bet $100 this will be the last cigarette i ever touch
03:06 <spidey> so, for me i can't lose, only him D:
03:06 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
03:06 <Vanhayes> thats a horrible bet by your brother
03:06 <spidey> heh
03:06 <Vanhayes> you will have to pay only if you outlive him and he doesnt smoke untill he dies
03:07 <NeoThermic> Vanhayes: dunno, they could be betting on what date they get diagnosed for cancer? :P
03:07 <NeoThermic> that'd be a horrible bet :P
03:07 <Vanhayes> and if he were to quit smoking chances are he is gonna outlive you
03:07 <NeoThermic> yep :)
03:07 <NeoThermic> we could calculate it
03:08 <Vanhayes> "heh I bet ill get cancer before you!" "Double or nothing says its lung cancer"
03:08 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
03:08 <NeoThermic> we'd just need to know how many a day you smoke, and how many a day he does, and since when you both started. From that we could work out how many years you've knocked off of your life expectancy :P
03:09 <HellBlade-Arma> I smoke a carton a day
03:09 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
03:09 <NeoThermic> that like 1 gallon?
03:09 <NeoThermic> I mean, christ, what kind of lighter do yo need for that?
03:09 <HellBlade-Arma> a normal one
03:10 <HellBlade-Arma> you just light it from the bottom
03:10 <Vanhayes> I dont smoke cigs at all, real cigars ocasiaoaly, mini cigars more frequent but still not alot
03:10 <HellBlade-Arma> the carton burns up pretty fast
03:10 <NeoThermic> unscrew the cap, light the bottom and inhale? :)
03:10 <NeoThermic> I've never even had one cig. Ever.
03:10 <Vanhayes> but then I do alot of buckets a day
03:10 <NeoThermic> and I don't ever plan to
03:10 <HellBlade-Arma> neither have I
03:10 <HellBlade-Arma> I just like burning cartons
03:10 <NeoThermic> lol
03:10 <HellBlade-Arma> ;P
03:11 <NeoThermic> the first thing that could ever go wrong with me is with my liver
03:11 <Vanhayes> cigs never made sense to me, the taste bad and dont do anything for/to you
03:11 <HellBlade-Arma> sadly I have a high chance of getting cancer, both my parents had it
03:11 <NeoThermic> I don't drink beer, so I've learnt to tolerate stuff that is 40% or better. Current fave is absinthe at 72.5% :P
03:11 <HellBlade-Arma> now I just need to catch it before it is to late
03:12 <Vanhayes> m lungs are half gone, my liver is next I think
03:13 <HellBlade-Arma> now you need to start drinking for your kidneys to go ;P
03:13 <NeoThermic> liver goes quicker than kidneys
03:13 <Vanhayes> ya, kidneys are last
03:14 <NeoThermic> unless you wake up in a bathtub of ice..
03:14 <HellBlade-Arma> that's why you start drinking
03:14 <Vanhayes> Im counting on them to perfect cloning organs in my life time
03:14 <NeoThermic> what, to end up in the tub or not?
03:14 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
03:14 <HellBlade-Arma> no so that they go faster
03:14 <NeoThermic> Vanhayes: I'd pefer them to work out how to interface silicon with nerves
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03:15 <tramshed> thats been done
03:15 <NeoThermic> so that you could replace failing body parts with mechanical replacements that work as good, if not better than the organic stuff :P
03:15 <Vanhayes> hmm my spine might be before the kidneys
03:15 <NeoThermic> tramshed: not to any good effect
03:15 <NeoThermic> else you'd be hearing about paralyesd people walking again
03:15 <tramshed> lockins managed to get out, thats good effect
03:16 <tramshed> bmis are a pretty major area of research nowadays
03:16 <tramshed> 10, 15 years, we will likely have what you are dreaming of
03:16 <NeoThermic> I hope so
03:16 <NeoThermic> I really do
03:16 <Vanhayes> sounds good
03:16 <NeoThermic> I'd pefer to live past 110 years
03:16 <HellBlade-Arma> and this is why humans stopped evolving
03:17 <tramshed> who says we stopped evolving?
03:17 <Vanhayes> 60 is my goal for now
03:17 <NeoThermic> "only" 60?
03:17 <HellBlade-Arma> for him it is
03:17 <HellBlade-Arma> amazing
03:17 <Vanhayes> if I live to 60 ill be happy
03:17 <NeoThermic> heh
03:17 <NeoThermic> wait till your parents are 60
03:17 <NeoThermic> then reconsider that goal
03:17 <HellBlade-Arma> it's a good thing I'll only drink guiness and not smoke
03:17 <HellBlade-Arma> I'll live for awhile
03:18 <Vanhayes> Im pretty sure every time I went turkey jerking it cut 5 years off my life
03:18 <NeoThermic> lol
03:18 <Vanhayes> my dad is 60
03:18 <tramshed> cirrorhosis
03:18 <Vanhayes> ?
03:18 <Vanhayes> #google cirrorhosis
03:18 <armabot> Vanhayes: Search took 0.05 seconds: Patients with Special Health Care Needs in General and Pediatric ...: <http://www.cda-adc.ca/jcda/vol-72/issue-10/915.pdf>
03:19 <tramshed> its when your liver starts to die from alchohol
03:19 <tramshed> its a long term side effect of heavy drinking
03:20 <Vanhayes> http://www.siamhealth.net/Disease/picture/cirrhosis.jpg thats filthy
03:20 <HellBlade-Arma> that blood is disgusting
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03:24 <spidey> #weather 38256
03:24 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 86.5°F (8:30 PM CDT on August 18, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 60.8°F. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Rising). Heat advisory in effect from 1 PM to 8 PM CDT Sunday...
03:28 <Vanhayes> hmm I say its 10 out here
03:28 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
03:28 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 57°F / 14°C | Humidity: 77% | Pressure: 29.87in / 1012hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h | Updated: 10:00 PM ADT; Tonight - Showers with a few thundershowers ending this evening then cloudy periods. Local amount 15 mm(0.6 in) in thundershowers. Wind northwest 20 km/h (12 mph). Low 10C(50F).; Sunday - A mix of sun and cloud. 40 (1 more message)
03:28 <Vanhayes> hmm, feels colder
03:32 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
03:32 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 82.9°F (8:36 PM CDT on August 18, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 73.4°F. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa (Rising).
03:32 <Lucifer_arma> it's warmer here, it's 85 F according to my thermo-meter
03:33 <spidey> we haven't had a/c all day
03:33 <Lucifer_arma> I never get carded anymore
03:33 <spidey> the outlet the a/c was plugged in caught on fire
03:34 <spidey> so at 100F
03:34 <spidey> it's about 110F in the house
03:34 <Lucifer_arma> open the windows and hang wet towels in them
03:34 <spidey> ?
03:34 <Lucifer_arma> put a fan in front of the wet towel
03:35 <Lucifer_arma> as the water evaporates, it will absorb (for lack of a better word) heat
03:35 <spidey> O.o
03:35 <Lucifer_arma> see, it's something like this
03:35 <Lucifer_arma> heat is measured in joules, frequently, btw
03:35 <Lucifer_arma> let's say the water is at 99 C
03:35 <Lucifer_arma> and you add 100 joules to bring it up to 100 C
03:36 <Lucifer_arma> makes sense, so far, right? (only I'm making up the numbers)
03:36 <Lucifer_arma> now, you add something like 5000 Joules to the water
03:36 <Lucifer_arma> you'd think it'll just change to steam and be 150 C, right?
03:36 <Lucifer_arma> well, it doesn't, it changes to steam with all of that heat, and becomes 100 C heat
03:37 <spidey> ...
03:37 <Lucifer_arma> phase changes. Same thing happens when you melt ice, which is why if you put 32 F water in a cup with other water, it won't lower the temperature as much as 32 F ice
03:37 <Lucifer_arma> to turn ice into water at the same temperature, you have to add a lot more heat than it takes to raise the temperature of that water
03:38 <Lucifer_arma> so what happens with the towel in the window is you get the water to evaporate, and when it does, it absorbs a lot of heat
03:38 <spidey> well
03:38 <Lucifer_arma> that's what those misters do that you see sometimes on people's patios
03:38 <spidey> my answer is raise my body heat :D
03:38 <spidey> i've had 3 hot showers today
03:38 <Lucifer_arma> they blow mist over you, and then the mist evaporates, and when it does, it takes all the heat right around you
03:38 <spidey> so it doesn't bother me as bad as everyone else
03:38 <NeoThermic> #weather 93555
03:38 <armabot> NeoThermic: The current temperature in SW Ridgecrest, Ridgecrest, California is 99.0°F (6:32 PM PDT on August 18, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 15%. Dew Point: 42.8°F. Pressure: 29.67 in 1004.6 hPa (Steady).
03:39 <Lucifer_arma> if you have curtains on your windows, you can just open the windows and spray water on the curtains
03:39 <NeoThermic> #weather 93556
03:39 <Lucifer_arma> pretty straightforward, really
03:39 <armabot> NeoThermic: The current temperature in City Hall, Ridgecrest, California is 97.2°F (6:44 PM PDT on August 18, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 11%. Dew Point: 33.8°F. Pressure: 29.49 in 998.5 hPa (Steady).
03:39 <Lucifer_arma> it's also how sweat works, it's why you sweat, in fact. When the sweat evaporates, it takes with it a lot of heat in the general vicinity of your body
03:40 <Lucifer_arma> so you want to wear loose-fitting cotton clothing in the heat, so there's air circulation, and you end up with a compartment around your body that's cool
03:40 <Lucifer_arma> taking your shirt off in the heat is a one-way ticket to heat stroke
03:40 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, I'm done, check out howstuffworks for more on refrigeration and phase changes :)
03:42 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeh, if you have ceiing fans, and there's a little space between the wet cloth and the window, switching them to blow up towards the roof will help circulate the air over the towel
03:43 <Lucifer_arma> it'll pull air straight in through the window, through the towel, and then up to the roof (via the middle of the room)
03:43 <Lucifer_arma> from there it'll go along the roof back down and through the crack to exit the house, cold
03:43 <Lucifer_arma> er, warm
03:43 <Lucifer_arma> it'll exit the house warm, taking with it a lot of heat that was in the room
03:51 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.weather.com/maps/news/atlstorm4/atl4projectedpath_large.html
03:53 <Lucifer_arma> it's still far enough out that it could turn significantly and come to us, but something tells me it's going to veer left and cross central america instead
03:53 <Lucifer_arma> I could be wrong, I'm no meteorologist
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03:53 * Lucifer_arma considers starting a new irc channel for watching hurricanes ;)
03:54 <Vanhayes> i bet ghab would stay in there 24/7
03:54 <Lucifer_arma> checking weather? ;)
03:54 <Lucifer_arma> I need a name for a python module that provides a network layer for games
03:55 <Vanhayes> Dave' Stupid python module that provides a network layer for games?
03:56 <Vanhayes> it rolls off the tongue
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05:04 <GodTodd> grrr....wtf does this iso keep getting errors? :/
05:12 <GodTodd> if the md5sum matches...is it an error with the burn itself?
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05:25 <spidey> holy shit
05:25 <spidey> dude
05:25 <spidey> my brothers uncle came out today to ffix the recepticle
05:25 <spidey> it was burnt, litterally
05:25 <spidey> it crumbled when he took the old one out
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06:05 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: yes, if the md5sum matches, it's an error with the burn
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> Or
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> it's a bad cdrom
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> way to check is to try known good cds, like audio cds, and see how they play. Do they skip or have other errors?
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> Also, burn the iso image at the slowest available speed and see what that gives you
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> I'm going to call the module pynetgame, and the library Python Network Game Library
06:08 <Lucifer_arma> I googled it, and nothing came up
06:16 <HellBlade-Arma> #weather 92037
06:16 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: The current temperature in La Jolla Shores, La Jolla, California is 80.1°F (9:20 PM PDT on August 18, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 68.0°F. Pressure: 29.78 in 1008.4 hPa (Rising).
06:16 <HellBlade-Arma> wow it's night at it is hotter than it was in the day
06:18 <NeoThermic> #weather EGLL
06:18 <armabot> NeoThermic: The current temperature in London, United Kingdom is 60.8°F (4:50 AM BST on August 19, 2007). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 59.0°F. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Falling).
06:18 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: i did the slower speed thing with the server edition...finally got a good burn(at least it verified good)with kubuntu at the higher speed
06:21 <GodTodd> was talking with the wife about my network/kid os plans and she liked the idea of being able to lock out boxes at certain times ;)
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07:04 <Seeker> Anyone keepin an eye on here......just checking my setup
07:05 <HellBlade-Arma> on where?
07:06 -!- HellBlade-Arma is now known as Stewie-Arma
07:06 <Seeker> the channel......and i guess so if i got a response
07:06 <Stewie-Arma> well many people are doing other things right now
07:06 <Seeker> just makin sure i got this stupid thing set up right
07:06 <Stewie-Arma> they just keep this up so they don't have to restart it every time they have something to ask
07:06 <Stewie-Arma> lol
07:07 <Seeker> i set up the irc on my trillian so its always on with the rest of my messengers
07:07 <Stewie-Arma> blech trillian
07:07 <Seeker> it keeps em all in one spot
07:08 <Seeker> im just surprised it works properly on vista
07:08 <Stewie-Arma> blech vista
07:08 <Stewie-Arma> why would you use that?
07:09 <Seeker> FREE copy of ultimate from my company for software compatability testing
07:09 <Seeker> not my chioce
07:09 <Seeker> lol
07:09 <GodTodd> dual boot :)
07:09 <Seeker> tripple
07:09 <Stewie-Arma> I've heard the security is worse than 98
07:09 <GodTodd> that works too :)
07:09 <Seeker> ubuntu, vista, xp
07:09 <Seeker> still learnin linux
07:10 * GodTodd has booted 5 oses on one machine before...
07:10 <Stewie-Arma> it's not THAT hard
07:10 <Stewie-Arma> Todd do you have a switch?
07:10 <Seeker> no...just different
07:10 <GodTodd> nope...no switch
07:10 <GodTodd> why?
07:10 <Stewie-Arma> just wondering
07:10 <Seeker> i was gonna pop in my ild dos drive for fun yesterday
07:10 <Seeker> sry..old
07:10 <Stewie-Arma> but switches are really fun
07:11 <GodTodd> er...wait...it was 5 versions of windows actually....7 oses total
07:11 <GodTodd> with the two linuxes
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07:11 <Seeker> anyone using a hypervisor for virtualization?
07:11 <GodTodd> 98, xp, 2k, 2k server, 2k advanced server, mandrake, red hat
07:11 <Seeker> lol
07:12 <Stewie-Arma> awww
07:12 <GodTodd> the real pain in the ass was that i had to go through two bootloaders :)
07:12 <Seeker> well fine then....im gonna install all the dang os's i have in my library......
07:12 <GodTodd> heh...i don't even dual boot anymore
07:12 <Stewie-Arma> hey do we know if there is any possible way to do the ladder based on ip?
07:12 <Seeker> then well se whos king!!!! anyone got a couple spard drives?
07:13 <GodTodd> i did all those on one drive ;)
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07:13 <GodTodd> a 120 GB
07:13 <Stewie-Arma> lol
07:13 <Seeker> im only runnin a single 80gig right now
07:13 <MrBougo> hiho
07:13 <Stewie-Arma> I'm running a single 100 gig
07:13 <Stewie-Arma> hi MrBougo
07:13 <MrBougo> one 186 gig for me
07:13 <Stewie-Arma> at 7400RPM
07:14 <GodTodd> i'm running at least half a TB...and i need more :/
07:14 <Seeker> i just switched to sata only...need som new big drives
07:14 <GodTodd> 2 servers, 3 laptops
07:14 <Stewie-Arma> I have 3 externals but they aren't plugged in
07:14 <MrBougo> lol
07:14 <MrBougo> sata rocks
07:14 <Seeker> i have 3 250' and 6 80's but they are ide
07:14 <MrBougo> one external
07:14 <MrBougo> 150 gigs or something
07:15 <MrBougo> but i dont use it
07:15 <Stewie-Arma> I have 2 500's and a 250
07:15 <MrBougo> i'd only need 60 gigs
07:15 <GodTodd> fuck i hate windows :/
07:15 <MrBougo> it would be enough
07:15 * GodTodd is doing maintenance on his son's laptop
07:15 <MrBougo> 10 gigs for the monster OS
07:15 <Stewie-Arma> lol MrBougo, learn how to use the internet ;P
07:15 <MrBougo> 15 more for my music
07:15 <Seeker> i want to get 2 500's sometime soon, then ill start playing with some things again
07:15 <MrBougo> Stewie-Arma?
07:16 <MrBougo> Stewie-Arma: i dont get it
07:16 <Stewie-Arma> MrBougo why do you think I have over 1 TB of stuff?
07:16 <GodTodd> only 15GB of music?
07:16 <GodTodd> wow
07:16 <MrBougo> hehe Stewie-Arma
07:16 <MrBougo> GodTodd: i download a two hour set / week
07:16 <Stewie-Arma> I know how to use the internet that's why ;P
07:16 <MrBougo> and sometimes some other 1 or 2 hour set
07:16 <Seeker> i have my dvd iso's ripped to a 500 external, and i ned more room
07:16 <MrBougo> Stewie-Arma: i do too
07:16 <MrBougo> BUT
07:17 * GodTodd won't go into how he has over 60 GB of music
07:17 <Stewie-Arma> but...
07:17 <MrBougo> here we have goddamnfuckyoubelgianisps download quotes
07:17 <MrBougo> quotas*
07:17 <MrBougo> 10 gigs/month
07:17 <Seeker> ANYWAY........ao noone has tried hypervisor virtualization yet?
07:17 <Stewie-Arma> lol
07:18 <Stewie-Arma> fur srly?
07:18 <MrBougo> if you download more than 10 gigs in a month, you're doomed, buy the damn 5 gigs pack
07:18 <MrBougo> and fuckt that
07:18 <MrBougo> its goddamn expensive
07:18 <Stewie-Arma> fuckin belgians
07:18 <Seeker> i assume that includes page loads too?
07:18 <MrBougo> we pay more for less than the frenchies get
07:18 <MrBougo> they have triple play stuff
07:19 <MrBougo> tv, phone, internet with no limit
07:19 <MrBougo> and for like...
07:19 <MrBougo> $12 cheaper
07:19 <GodTodd> when a technology is new in a country you pay more ;)
07:19 <Stewie-Arma> 12USD?
07:19 <MrBougo> yup
07:19 <MrBougo> nah
07:19 <Seeker> i pay 140/month for all unlimited
07:19 <Stewie-Arma> which answer went to who?
07:19 <MrBougo> we pay $12 more than the frenchies
07:19 <MrBougo> and we get less
07:19 <MrBougo> GodTodd: nah
07:20 <MrBougo> it isnt new in belgium
07:20 <MrBougo> go eat yourself
07:20 <Stewie-Arma> lol I pay $20 and get unlimited ;P
07:20 * GodTodd was joking
07:20 <Seeker> then it must be cheap to live in japan ;)
07:20 <MrBougo> Belgacom has the monopoly
07:20 <Stewie-Arma> but it's 5MB shared
07:20 <MrBougo> they own all the telephonic cables in the country
07:20 <MrBougo> so other ISP's have less chances to survive
07:20 <Stewie-Arma> man that sucks
07:20 <MrBougo> and they cant be cheaper, because they pay belgacom
07:21 <MrBougo> yep, it does
07:21 <MrBougo> but i believe that it will change some day
07:21 <MrBougo> just like it did in france not so long ago
07:22 <Stewie-Arma> alright I have a question...
07:22 <Seeker> ?
07:23 <Stewie-Arma> http://www.a1eddie.com/fun2.htm go to the third movie pack and can you tell me if edd has put that moviepack to download yet?
07:23 <Seeker> the one with the recombant bikes?
07:24 <Stewie-Arma> I think
07:24 <Seeker> i can download it from that link by clicking on it
07:24 <Stewie-Arma> that's not the moviepack
07:25 <Seeker> what is it?
07:25 <Seeker> i think he was just showcasing the bike in the pic
07:25 <Seeker> but i may use it in the pack i been workin on for mtself
07:26 <Seeker> i need to ask a few people for permission so I can release it.
07:27 <Stewie-Arma> nvm I found it
07:27 <Stewie-Arma> the movie pack that is
07:27 <Stewie-Arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=2112
07:27 <Seeker> as shown...ahh
07:29 <Stewie-Arma> hmmm
07:29 <Seeker> lol....he has a starfighter ship
07:29 <Seeker> i love that movie
07:30 <Stewie-Arma> hmmm I can't get the texture to show...
07:30 <Seeker> ?
07:30 <Seeker> did you unzip it first?
07:30 <Stewie-Arma> the rim wall and floor
07:30 <Stewie-Arma> yeah
07:31 <Seeker> odd....ill have to dl it and see what I get
07:31 <Stewie-Arma> but I know there has to be a setting that needs to be changed for the textures to show
07:31 <Stewie-Arma> I get the bike
07:31 <Stewie-Arma> but nothing else
07:32 <Seeker> the only setting I can think of is the dual tex floor that needs to be single tex to work properly.......not for the walls though
07:33 <Stewie-Arma> not the cycle walls the outer rim sorry
07:33 <Seeker> hmm....i cant remember a setting that would need to be changed
07:34 <Stewie-Arma> nvm
07:34 <Stewie-Arma> it's just that the floor is strange
07:34 <Stewie-Arma> lol
07:34 <Seeker> lol
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07:37 <Stewie-Arma> there needs to be a change in colors between bike and floor
07:40 <spidey_> ?
07:45 <Bougo> um
07:45 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@ip-62-235-206-67.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [Nick collision from services.]
07:45 -!- Bougo is now known as MrBo
07:45 <MrBo> wth
07:45 <MrBo> MrBo is owned
07:45 -!- MrBo is now known as MrBogo
07:45 <Stewie-Arma> lol
07:45 <MrBogo> fuck
07:46 <MrBogo> * *** Notice -- Too many nick changes; wait 15 seconds before trying again
07:46 -!- MrBogo is now known as MrBougo
07:46 <MrBougo> i want a black cycle!
07:46 <Stewie-Arma> not that hard
07:47 <MrBougo> crap, theres noone in the rbi server
07:47 <MrBougo> (nexuiz)
07:47 <MrBougo> how many spaces do you need
07:47 <Stewie-Arma> why not go gulch?
07:47 <MrBougo> for the parentheses to make a circle
07:47 <MrBougo> 140 ping
07:48 <MrBougo> im on gulch, ok
07:48 <Stewie-Arma> lol
07:48 <Stewie-Arma> gulch is fun
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08:43 <Stewie-Arma> #weather 92037
08:43 <armabot> Stewie-Arma: The current temperature in La Jolla Shores, La Jolla, California is 76.8°F (11:45 PM PDT on August 18, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 66.2°F. Pressure: 29.79 in 1008.7 hPa (Steady).
08:45 <Stewie-Arma> #ping
08:45 <armabot> pong
08:45 <Stewie-Arma> ping xfroggy
08:45 <Stewie-Arma> ping xfroggy
09:00 <MrBougo> xfroggy
09:00 <MrBougo> poing
09:00 <MrBougo> #poing
09:00 <armabot> piong
09:01 <Stewie-Arma> lol
09:01 <Stewie-Arma> #piong
09:01 <armabot> poing
09:01 <Stewie-Arma> lol
09:01 <Stewie-Arma> #pong
09:01 <Stewie-Arma> awww
09:01 <Stewie-Arma> no ping for me?
09:01 <Stewie-Arma> #eliza HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO ME??!?!?!?
09:02 <armabot> Stewie-Arma: What do you think?
09:02 <Stewie-Arma> I think you should stfu
09:02 <Stewie-Arma> ping xfroggy
09:02 <Stewie-Arma> ping xfroggy
09:02 <Stewie-Arma> ping xfroggy
09:02 <Stewie-Arma> ping xfroggy
09:02 <Stewie-Arma> ping xfroggy
09:02 <Stewie-Arma> ping xfroggy
09:02 <Stewie-Arma> ping xfroggy
09:02 <Stewie-Arma> I hope that gets to him
09:02 <Stewie-Arma> #monologue
09:02 <armabot> Stewie-Arma: Your current monologue is at least 17 lines long.
09:02 <Stewie-Arma> lol amazing
09:02 <Stewie-Arma> to bad I had one that was atleast 60
09:02 <MrBougo> http://www.semicolon.com/Poing.html
09:02 <MrBougo> haha that mac game was amazing
09:02 <Stewie-Arma> #monologue
09:02 <MrBougo> i remember playing it
09:02 <armabot> Stewie-Arma: Your current monologue is at least 1 line long.
09:03 <MrBougo> pned
09:03 <MrBougo> pwned*
09:03 <Stewie-Arma> you prick!
09:03 <MrBougo> it was 19 lines long
09:03 <MrBougo> 20 including your #monologue
09:04 <Stewie-Arma> I never played that game...
09:04 <Stewie-Arma> #monologue
09:04 <Stewie-Arma> #monologue
09:04 <armabot> Stewie-Arma: Your current monologue is at least 2 lines long.
09:04 <Stewie-Arma> #monologue
09:04 <armabot> Stewie-Arma: Your current monologue is at least 3 lines long.
09:04 <Stewie-Arma> #monologue
09:04 <Stewie-Arma> #monologue
09:04 <Stewie-Arma> #monologue
09:04 <armabot> Stewie-Arma: Your current monologue is at least 4 lines long.
09:04 <Stewie-Arma> #monologue
09:04 <armabot> Stewie-Arma: Your current monologue is at least 5 lines long.
09:04 <armabot> Stewie-Arma: Your current monologue is at least 6 lines long.
09:04 <armabot> Stewie-Arma: Your current monologue is at least 7 lines long.
09:04 <Stewie-Arma> #monologue
09:04 <armabot> Stewie-Arma: Your current monologue is at least 8 lines long.
09:04 <armabot> Stewie-Arma: Your current monologue is at least 9 lines long.
09:04 <Stewie-Arma> #monologue
09:04 <armabot> Stewie-Arma: Your current monologue is at least 10 lines long.
09:04 <Stewie-Arma> #monologue
09:04 <MrBougo> BREAKIT
09:04 <armabot> Stewie-Arma: Your current monologue is at least 11 lines long.
09:04 <Stewie-Arma> #monologue
09:04 <armabot> Stewie-Arma: Your current monologue is at least 1 line long.
09:04 <Stewie-Arma> #monologue
09:04 <armabot> Stewie-Arma: Your current monologue is at least 2 lines long.
09:04 <Stewie-Arma> #monologue
09:04 <armabot> Stewie-Arma: Your current monologue is at least 3 lines long.
09:04 <MrBougo> BREAKITAGAIN
09:04 <Stewie-Arma> #monologue
09:04 <armabot> Stewie-Arma: Your current monologue is at least 1 line long.
09:04 <Stewie-Arma> #monologue
09:04 <armabot> Stewie-Arma: Your current monologue is at least 2 lines long.
09:04 <Stewie-Arma> #monologue
09:04 <Stewie-Arma> #monologue
09:04 <Stewie-Arma> lol friggen win
09:04 <armabot> Stewie-Arma: Your current monologue is at least 3 lines long.
09:04 <Stewie-Arma> lol
09:04 <armabot> Stewie-Arma: Your current monologue is at least 4 lines long.
09:04 <Stewie-Arma> that's hilarious
09:04 <MrBougo> Lucifer_arma: we need your op powers here
09:04 <MrBougo> :D
09:04 <Stewie-Arma> lol
09:04 <Stewie-Arma> wasn't that amazing?
09:04 <MrBougo> want something more hilarious?
09:05 <Stewie-Arma> what like me being muted?
09:05 <Stewie-Arma> lol
09:05 <MrBougo> nope
09:05 <Stewie-Arma> what?
09:05 <MrBougo> wait
09:05 <Stewie-Arma> me being kicked?
09:05 <Stewie-Arma> cmon you gatta tell me
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09:05 <MrBougo> you'll see
09:05 <MrBougo> here it is
09:05 <MrBougo> #echo &echo
09:05 <armabot> &echo
09:05 <MrBoto> armabot: (echo <text>) -- Returns the arguments given it. Uses our standard substitute on the string(s) given to it; $nick (or $who), $randomNick, $randomInt, $botnick, $channel, $user, $host, $today, $now, and $randomDate are all handled appropriately.
09:06 <MrBougo> and some more :)
09:06 <Stewie-Arma> lol
09:06 <Stewie-Arma> #echo &echo
09:06 <armabot> &echo
09:06 <MrBoto> armabot: (echo <text>) -- Returns the arguments given it. Uses our standard substitute on the string(s) given to it; $nick (or $who), $randomNick, $randomInt, $botnick, $channel, $user, $host, $today, $now, and $randomDate are all handled appropriately.
09:06 <Stewie-Arma> lol
09:06 <Stewie-Arma> that's amazing
09:06 <MrBougo> #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo
09:06 <armabot> &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo
09:06 <MrBoto> #echo &echo #echo &echo
09:06 <armabot> &echo #echo &echo
09:06 <MrBoto> #echo &echo
09:06 <armabot> &echo
09:06 <MrBoto> armabot: (echo <text>) -- Returns the arguments given it. Uses our standard substitute on the string(s) given to it; $nick (or $who), $randomNick, $randomInt, $botnick, $channel, $user, $host, $today, $now, and $randomDate are all handled appropriately.
09:06 <Stewie-Arma> lol
09:06 <MrBougo> &echo
09:06 <MrBoto> MrBougo: (echo <text>) -- Returns the arguments given it. Uses our standard substitute on the string(s) given to it; $nick (or $who), $randomNick, $randomInt, $botnick, $channel, $user, $host, $today, $now, and $randomDate are all handled appropriately.
09:06 <MrBougo> &echo #echo
09:06 <MrBoto> #echo
09:06 <armabot> MrBoto: (echo <text>) -- Returns the arguments given it. Uses our standard substitute on the string(s) given to it; $nick (or $who), $randomNick, $randomInt, $botnick, $channel, $user, $host, $today, $now, and $randomDate are all handled appropriately.
09:06 <MrBoto> armabot: Error: "(echo" is not a valid command.
09:06 <Stewie-Arma> #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo
09:06 <armabot> &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo
09:06 <MrBoto> #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo
09:06 <armabot> &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo
09:06 <MrBoto> #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo
09:06 <armabot> &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo
09:06 <MrBoto> #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo
09:06 <Stewie-Arma> lol
09:06 <armabot> &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo
09:06 <MrBoto> #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo
09:07 <armabot> &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo
09:07 <MrBoto> #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo
09:07 <armabot> &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo
09:07 <MrBoto> #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo
09:07 <armabot> &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo
09:07 <MrBoto> #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo
09:07 <armabot> &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo
09:07 <MrBoto> #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo
09:07 <armabot> &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo
09:07 <MrBoto> #echo &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo
09:07 <MrBougo> armabot used to output an error on this
09:07 <armabot> &echo #echo &echo #echo &echo
09:07 <MrBoto> #echo &echo #echo &echo
09:07 <armabot> &echo #echo &echo
09:07 <Stewie-Arma> really?
09:07 <MrBoto> #echo &echo
09:07 <armabot> &echo
09:07 <MrBoto> armabot: (echo <text>) -- Returns the arguments given it. Uses our standard substitute on the string(s) given to it; $nick (or $who), $randomNick, $randomInt, $botnick, $channel, $user, $host, $today, $now, and $randomDate are all handled appropriately.
09:07 <MrBougo> so he output error
09:07 <MrBougo> and the other answers
09:07 <MrBougo> and the other answers
09:07 <MrBougo> and the other answers
09:07 <MrBougo> and it wouldnt stop
09:07 <MrBougo> #lobotomy add #armagetron
09:07 <armabot> MrBougo: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
09:07 <Stewie-Arma> that's amazing
09:07 <MrBougo> oops
09:07 <MrBougo> :p
09:07 <MrBougo> but dont spam too much
09:07 <MrBougo> or i &lobotomy add #armagetron
09:08 <Stewie-Arma> what's that?
09:08 <MrBougo> or &ignore add Stewie-Arma
09:08 <MrBougo> &lobotomy add #armagetron
09:08 <MrBoto> MrBougo: The operation succeeded.
09:08 <MrBougo> try to send him a command
09:08 <MrBougo> like &help
09:08 <MrBougo> &help
09:08 <Stewie-Arma> which does?
09:08 <MrBoto> MrBougo: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
09:08 <MrBougo> i can
09:08 <MrBougo> im the owner
09:08 <MrBougo> but try it
09:08 <Stewie-Arma> &help
09:08 <MrBougo> :)
09:08 <Stewie-Arma> I see
09:08 <MrBougo> &lobotomy remove #armagetron
09:08 <MrBoto> MrBougo: The operation succeeded.
09:08 <MrBougo> and ignores does the same thing only for one person
09:08 <MrBougo> #help ignore add
09:08 <armabot> MrBougo: Error: That command exists in the Admin and Channel plugins. Please specify exactly which plugin command you want help with.
09:08 <MrBougo> #help admin ignore add
09:08 <armabot> MrBougo: (admin ignore add <hostmask|nick> [<expires>]) -- Ignores <hostmask> or, if a nick is given, ignores whatever hostmask that nick is currently using. <expires> is a "seconds from now" value that determines when the ignore will expire; if, for instance, you wish for the ignore to expire in an hour, you could give an <expires> of 3600. If no <expires> is given, the ignore will never (1 more message)
09:09 <MrBougo> &ignore add Stewie-Arma 20
09:09 <MrBoto> MrBougo: Error: The command "ignore add" is available in the Admin and Channel plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "ignore add".
09:09 <Stewie-Arma> who "owns" armabot?
09:09 <MrBougo> &admin ignore add Stewie-Arma 20
09:09 <MrBoto> MrBougo: The operation succeeded.
09:09 <MrBougo> wrtlprnft
09:09 <MrBougo> &admin ignore list
09:09 <MrBoto> MrBougo: 'Stewie-Arma!n=HellBlad@cpe-72-130-168-7.san.res.rr.com' and 'armabot!n=armabot@85.233.38.240.static.cablesurf.de'
09:09 <MrBougo> oh hey
09:09 <Stewie-Arma> lol
09:09 <Stewie-Arma> he's ignoring armabot
09:09 <MrBougo> &admin ignore remove mailto:'armabot!n=armabot@85.233.38.240.static.cablesurf.de'
09:09 <MrBoto> MrBougo: Error: mailto:'armabot!n=armabot@85.233.38.240.static.cablesurf.de' wasn't in the ignores database.
09:09 <MrBougo> oops
09:09 <MrBougo> &admin ignore remove armabot!n=armabot@85.233.38.240.static.cablesurf.de
09:09 <MrBoto> MrBougo: The operation succeeded.
09:09 <MrBougo> &admin ignore list
09:09 <MrBoto> MrBougo: I'm not currently globally ignoring anyone.
09:10 <MrBougo> &admin ignore armabot!*@*
09:10 <MrBoto> MrBougo: Error: The "Admin" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "ignore" in it. Try "list Admin" to see the commands in the "Admin" plugin.
09:10 <Stewie-Arma> oh lol armabot changed ips
09:10 <MrBougo> &admin ignore add armabot!*@*
09:10 <MrBoto> MrBougo: The operation succeeded.
09:10 <Stewie-Arma> awww
09:10 <MrBougo> yup it did
09:10 <MrBougo> now it worckxz
09:10 <Stewie-Arma> now you made it so we can't spam -.-
09:10 <Stewie-Arma> you meanie
09:10 <MrBougo> affirmative! :D
09:11 <MrBoto> actually you can spam
09:11 <Stewie-Arma> atleast I was the last one to do it
09:11 <MrBoto> but dont use me :)
09:11 <Stewie-Arma> I'm guessing #echo #echo
09:11 <MrBoto> i dont wanna be ban'd
09:11 <Stewie-Arma> #echo #echo
09:11 <armabot> #echo
09:11 <Stewie-Arma> nope
09:11 <Stewie-Arma> darn
09:11 <MrBougo> just spam like you'd do everywhere
09:11 <MrBougo> everywhere
09:11 <MrBougo> everywhere
09:11 <MrBougo> everywhere
09:11 <Stewie-Arma> oh
09:11 <Stewie-Arma> you
09:11 <Stewie-Arma> mean
09:11 <Stewie-Arma> like
09:11 <Stewie-Arma> this?
09:12 <MrBougo> yup
09:12 <Stewie-Arma> I love how I'm the only one with alt + enter capabilities
09:12 <MrBougo> are
09:12 <MrBougo> ups
09:12 <Stewie-Arma> it makes it so I can type every line
09:12 <MrBougo> wait
09:12 <MrBougo> i
09:12 <MrBougo> can
09:12 <MrBougo> too
09:12 <MrBougo> :D
09:12 <Stewie-Arma> but
09:12 <Stewie-Arma> it
09:12 <Stewie-Arma> saves
09:12 <Stewie-Arma> every
09:12 <Stewie-Arma> line
09:12 <Stewie-Arma> before
09:12 <Stewie-Arma> it
09:12 <Stewie-Arma> orly?
09:12 <Stewie-Arma> nice!
09:13 <MrBougo> but not alt enter
09:13 <Stewie-Arma> what's it for you??
09:13 <MrBougo> copy paste from notepad ++
09:13 <MrBougo> xD
09:13 <Stewie-Arma> lol
09:13 <Stewie-Arma> I type it into the chatbox ;P
09:15 <MrBougo> test
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09:26 <MrBougo> testeetestee
09:26 <MrBougo> weee :(
09:29 <MrBougo> testee
09:29 <MrBougo>
09:29 <MrBougo>
09:30 <MrBougo> lol
09:30 <MrBougo> Stewie-Arma:
09:30 <MrBougo> can you hear a bell or something?
09:41 <MrBougo> i could make some weird sound spam
09:41 <MrBougo> #echo &echo #echo &echo .... #echo <system bell chararcter>
09:41 <Stewie-Arma> lol
09:42 <Stewie-Arma> actually MrBougo I have it set to always make that bell noise even when it isn't my name being said
09:42 <MrBougo> ew
09:42 <Stewie-Arma> probably cause growl is making it do it
09:43 <Stewie-Arma> oh wait no I don't have it set to make that bell noise
09:43 <Stewie-Arma> I guess it is growl doing it
09:43 <MrBougo> testtest
09:43 <MrBougo> test
09:43 <MrBougo> test
09:43 <MrBougo> test
09:43 <MrBougo> weeee
09:44 <MrBougo> testtest
09:44 <MrBougo> ...
09:45 <MrBougo> oooooh ok
09:45 <MrBougo> i can insert unicode stuff :)
09:45 <MrBougo> with ctrl alt u then the code
09:45 <MrBougo> ģ
09:45 <Stewie-Arma> nice
09:45 <MrBougo> :D
09:45 <MrBougo> hex code
09:45 <MrBougo> ÿ
09:46 <MrBougo> lets see whats my unicode char
09:46 <MrBougo> lets only take the hex chars in my name
09:46 <MrBougo> b.............................
09:46 <MrBougo>
09:47 <MrBougo> LINE TABULATION
09:49 <MrBougo> yours is u+EEAA
09:49 <MrBougo>
09:50 <MrBougo> http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/eeaa/sample.png
09:50 <MrBougo> U+EEAA is not a valid unicode character.
09:51 <MrBougo> only found on DFSongStd
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09:58 <spidey_> ...
09:59 <Stewie-Arma> hey spidey
09:59 <Stewie-Arma> ping xfroggy
09:59 <Stewie-Arma> #lastseen ~ X ~
09:59 <armabot> Stewie-Arma: ~ X ~ has last been seen on Wild West =Sumo= 4 hours 27 minutes ago.
09:59 <Stewie-Arma> hmmmm
10:00 <Stewie-Arma> #lastseen Stewart
10:00 <armabot> Stewie-Arma: Stewart Griffon has last been seen on Fortress Café 7 hours 1 minute ago.
10:00 <Stewie-Arma> #lastseen stew
10:00 <armabot> Stewie-Arma: Stewart Griffon has last been seen on Fortress Café 7 hours 1 minute ago.
10:00 <Stewie-Arma> alright that's better
10:00 <Stewie-Arma> #lastseen durka
10:00 <Stewie-Arma> did durka quit tron?
10:00 <armabot> Stewie-Arma: timed out
10:02 <MrBougo> hello spidey_
10:02 <Stewie-Arma> MrBougo: do you play tron?
10:02 <MrBougo> sometimes
10:02 <MrBougo> now this font is weird
10:02 <Stewie-Arma> orly?
10:02 <MrBougo> http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/9678/wtfsb6.png
10:02 <MrBougo> what is this supposed to look like?
10:03 <MrBougo> there was some kind of puzzle in the char map
10:03 <Stewie-Arma> it looks like a face
10:03 <MrBougo> only because of the eye
10:03 <MrBougo> could be some planet too
10:04 <MrBougo> let me check
10:04 <Stewie-Arma> it's a zerg!
10:04 <Stewie-Arma> ZERG RUSH!
10:04 <MrBougo> if its the earth, there are many chances for it to be the blue marble photography
10:05 <MrBougo> it aint
11:04 <P4> #onlineservers
11:04 <armabot> P4: This data is 38 seconds old; Norm's Place (7/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (6/14), Wild West =Capture The Flag= (6/10), WildCat (5/16), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (5/12), Shrunkland in 2.8.2: Now with RPG menu! (4/6), SPACEZONE III (2/15), Unnamed Server (1/16), The YELLOW Submarine (1/16), Eternal Destiny Clan Server(X.X) (1/16)
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11:06 <ObliviondaSA> hi
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11:08 <ObliviondaSA> any1 here?
11:10 <ObliviondaSA> plz i need sum help
11:10 <noob13> what seems to be the problem?
11:12 <ObliviondaSA> i just tried to log into wild west sumo and it says i banned for 20000 minutes
11:12 <ObliviondaSA> the funny thing is i havent logged into tron for almost one week
11:14 <noob13> can't really help you with that....
11:15 <noob13> u can try renewing ur ip address...
11:15 <ObliviondaSA> who can then? cuz its pretty frustrating
11:15 <ObliviondaSA> i dont even no what i did
11:15 <ObliviondaSA> i tried rebooting my connection even my computer
11:15 <noob13> or then contact durka or some other admin to remove ur ban..
11:16 <noob13> don't know who's in charge of that server...
11:16 <ObliviondaSA> its not sumo
11:16 <ObliviondaSA> only
11:16 <ObliviondaSA> its also ctf and ctf shooting
11:17 <noob13> seems like you did something really bad then :P
11:17 <ObliviondaSA> but i didnt...
11:18 <ObliviondaSA> last time i played everything was fine then i had my modem taken away and today i tried to play and it wudnt let me =(
11:18 <Hoax-> manta admins ww servers, talk to him or dorka
11:18 <noob13> #armaservers
11:18 <armabot> noob13: This data is 10 seconds old; Norm's Place (10/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (8/14), Shrunkland in 2.8.2: Now with RPG menu! (6/6), Wild West =Capture The Flag= (6/10), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (6/12), SPACEZONE III (5/15), Chico's Brake Boost Styball (5/8), The DogFight Arena | by Durka & ~"XzL.Shaggy (3/8), D E L I G H T F U L D I G G E R S (2/16), John Bigboote's (1 more message)
11:19 <noob13> #sd Norm
11:19 <armabot> noob13: Norm's Place: Players (10/12): Corback, djiezes, Fenix, Jazza, Kingbastard, O--->, pimp floyd, Recoil, Sammy Mc, TF~Dima
11:19 <ObliviondaSA> is any of them online?
11:20 <noob13> not here... u can prolly reach them through durkadurkaland.com forum
11:21 <ObliviondaSA> okay thanks
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15:56 <ghableska> #tea
15:57 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (2/32): eric, ¢T¦$$
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16:27 <Stempo> #weather 85747
16:27 <armabot> Stempo: The current temperature in Fast Horse Ranch, Vail, Arizona is 79.9°F (7:29 AM MST on August 19, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 66.2°F. Pressure: 29.33 in 993.1 hPa (Rising).
16:27 <Stempo> MrBoto <3
16:27 <MrBoto> MrBoto <3 Stempo too :3
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17:43 <ghableska> #tea
17:43 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (1/32): ~ B ~
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19:55 <Lucifer_arma> goo goo goo, ga ga ga, is all I want to say to you
19:55 <MrBougo> bag
19:55 <MrBougo> bah
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20:17 <MrBougo> &quit
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20:17 <MrBougo> bye
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21:31 <HellBlade-Arma> ping xfroggy
21:39 <HellBlade-Arma> #ping
21:39 <armabot> pong
21:39 <HellBlade-Arma> #piong
21:39 <armabot> poing
21:39 <HellBlade-Arma> #poing
21:39 <armabot> piong
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23:54 <armabot> armagetronad: guru3 * r7321 /www/mainsite/links.php: DD|Clan website
Log from 2007-08-20:
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00:39 <HellBlade-Arma> herro
00:39 <HellBlade-Arma> ...
00:41 <HellBlade-Arma> alright
00:41 <HellBlade-Arma> yay no more bells
00:41 <HellBlade-Arma> HellBlade-Arma
00:42 <HellBlade-Arma> hmmmm
00:42 <HellBlade-Arma> oh well
00:42 <HellBlade-Arma> did growl stop working?
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00:57 <ghableska> #weather 50266
00:57 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 86.0°F (6:02 PM CDT on August 19, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 71.6°F. Pressure: 28.81 in 975.5 hPa (Steady).
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01:04 <tramshed> erik
01:04 <tramshed> arg, wrong network
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02:30 <ghableska> #weather 50266
02:30 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 82.8°F (7:34 PM CDT on August 19, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 68.0°F. Pressure: 28.80 in 975.2 hPa (Falling).
02:30 <ghableska> #armaservers
02:30 <armabot> ghableska: This data is 57 seconds old; Norm's Place (10/12), Wild West =Capture The Flag= (10/10), ë | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ì/xff9900 (8/16), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (7/14), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (6/12), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (5/12), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (5/12), Wild West =Sumo= (5/14), SPACEZONE III (4/15), The Lobster Cage (3/7), (1 more message)
02:30 <ghableska> #more
02:30 <armabot> ghableska: Swampland II (3/12), Wild West =Cockpit= ~Multi~Mode~ (3/16), Fortress Café (3/32)
02:30 <ghableska> #tea
02:30 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (3/32): 1200, ~cOw~, ~|DS|~ judders
02:30 <ghableska> #lastseen 2020
02:31 <armabot> ghableska: timed out
02:55 -!- P4|away is now known as P4
02:56 <GodTodd> anyone know a better burning program than k3b?
03:11 <P4> GodTodd: Linux Burning Studio?
03:11 <P4> ( http://www.cdrlab.pl/article_strona_4555_2_Linux+Burning+Studio_System+i+repozytoria.html )
03:47 <Vanhayes> ghableska: pong ( you pinged me yesterday)
03:47 <Vanhayes> #last --from ghableska --with ping
03:47 <armabot> Vanhayes: [23:13:48] <ghableska> Vanhayes: ping
03:48 <ghableska> Vanhayes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLXRVvA6T9k
03:48 <ghableska> it's Canadian o_O
03:50 <Vanhayes> heh I saw this on CBC a while ago, its the rick mercer monday report
03:50 <Vanhayes> well he does it on the monday report too, not the whole half hour though
03:51 <ghableska> ah
03:51 <ghableska> it's funny :)
03:53 <ghableska> "Congratulations Canada, for legalizing insulin"
03:55 <Vanhayes> heh, "Do you think the US should be bombing Saskatchowan?" "Yes I do"
03:56 <ghableska> I like the part about leaving senior citizens on ice floes. :p
03:58 <Vanhayes> the best is where they congragulate canada for joining North america in 2000
03:59 <ghableska> haha
03:59 <ghableska> well, congrats Vanhayes ;)
04:00 <ghableska> wow, he got the governor too o_O
04:00 <Vanhayes> ya just saw
04:00 <Vanhayes> heh, national Igloo
04:00 <ghableska> and he's running for president
04:00 <ghableska> ack
04:00 <Vanhayes> hahahaha, Really?
04:00 <ghableska> yep
04:01 <ghableska> http://www.mikehuckabee.com/
04:01 <Vanhayes> if gets elected, or even close I might die from laughter
04:01 <ghableska> I might die of shame
04:01 <ghableska> atleast I'm not from Arkansas
04:01 <Vanhayes> and Probably wont go to america for 4 to 8 years
04:01 <ghableska> haha
04:02 <ghableska> have you gone to the US before?
04:03 <Vanhayes> quiute a few times
04:03 <ghableska> I've never gone to Canada :/
04:03 <Vanhayes> maine mostly, which is pretty much like new brunswick
04:04 <ghableska> ah
04:04 <Vanhayes> farthest Ive been is boston last summer, stayed at this old ex narc cops house who was a freind of my dads
04:04 <ghableska> cool
04:04 <ghableska> hahaha, I love the national anthem
04:05 <Vanhayes> its the real one too, I swear
04:05 <ghableska> :P
04:05 <ghableska> go jerk a turkey
04:05 <Vanhayes> never again, I dont need the money
04:06 <ghableska> haha
04:06 <Vanhayes> heh canadar the 5th season
04:06 <ghableska> wow, you have FM radio now?
04:06 <ghableska> hehe
04:07 <ghableska> "beaverballs"
04:08 <Vanhayes> we have something called beaver tails here
04:09 <Vanhayes> its a pancake in the chape of a beaver tail with maple syrup on it
04:09 <Vanhayes> shape*
04:09 <ghableska> ah
04:09 <ghableska> we have buffalo wings
04:09 <ghableska> which are actually made out of chicken wings o_O
04:09 <Vanhayes> we have those here too
04:09 <Vanhayes> ahaha saskatchewan fishermen, awesome
04:10 <ghableska> :P
04:10 <ghableska> bbl
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04:32 <spidey> luke-jr_work, ping
04:37 <tramshed> * Ping reply from spidey: 1.75 second(s)
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04:55 <ghableska> whoa
04:56 <Vanhayes> ?
04:57 <ghableska> Rick came to Des Moines :o
04:58 <Vanhayes> heh ya, he talked with your governor
04:58 <Vanhayes> also, Bush was happy Canada's Primeminister John Poutine endorsed him when he ran for President
04:59 <ghableska> hmm
05:01 <ghableska> ouch, it was painful to watch Vilsack say that
05:01 <ghableska> he's running for president too :p
05:04 <spidey> ran paul > other guys
05:04 <spidey> ron paul*
05:04 <ghableska> ?
05:04 <spidey> ron paul should be president of canada and usa :p
05:05 <ghableska> #kill spidey
05:05 <armabot> spidey will die on 08:03 PM, July 06, 2007 GMT due to being stabbed in the eye by ghableska
05:09 <ghableska> ahahaha
05:10 <ghableska> lmao
05:10 <ghableska> http://futuremark.yougamers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23914
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05:42 <Lucifer_arma> ron paul's totally bonkers
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> he says he wants to do away with all these departments, but once he takes the narcotic known as Presidential Power, he'll realize that those departments are his power and try to expand them instead
05:44 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, maybe
05:44 <spidey> but i'm hoping not :p
05:44 <Seeker> hi luci
05:45 <spidey> wow
05:45 <spidey> there's this guy, that's been flooding our site/servers
05:46 <spidey> so we decided to report his site(which is about "hacking")(which is also against his hosts ToS)
05:46 <spidey> here's what was found lol
05:46 <spidey> him -> a fake hosting site he setup so people would report abuse there -> real host which is a reseller -> real-real host
05:46 <spidey> rofl
05:48 <GodTodd> grrr i fucking give up :/
05:49 <spidey> quitter!
05:49 <spidey> only quitters quit!
05:49 <GodTodd> i've gone through no less than 25 cds
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05:50 <GodTodd> can't convert machines to linux if i can't get a good iso burn
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05:53 <GodTodd> i would think that burning an iso would be *easier* in linux :/
05:59 <luke-jr_work> it is
05:59 <spidey> not really
05:59 <luke-jr_work> spidey: wtf?
05:59 <spidey> to burn in windows
06:00 <spidey> download/install burn4free -> burn iso
06:00 <spidey> bam, you got a iso :D
06:00 <luke-jr_work> to burn in Linux
06:00 <luke-jr_work> cdrecord dev=/dev/cdrw some.iso
06:00 <luke-jr_work> no install needed :)
06:00 <spidey> liar
06:00 <luke-jr_work> u
06:00 <spidey> nou
06:01 <GodTodd> i did: cdrecord -v speed=4 dev=/dev/cdrom driveropts=burnfree /home/todd/downloads/kubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso
06:01 <spidey> http://www.zipservers.com/quad_processor.shtml
06:01 <spidey> i
06:01 <spidey> want
06:01 <spidey> that
06:01 <spidey> server
06:01 <luke-jr_work> stfu and help me setup MIPv6
06:01 <spidey> 4 dualcore opteron cpu's
06:02 <GodTodd> guess i'll have to dual boot one of the servers so that i can still get good isos :/
06:02 <spidey> haha
06:03 <GodTodd> cuz i know it's not bad cds or a bad burner since both did fine on burning under windows
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: try again with K3B :)
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> hi seeker
06:05 <GodTodd> i've tried 20 times with k3b
06:05 <GodTodd> different downloads, different speeds
06:06 <luke-jr_work> GodTodd: I've burned straight from the internet before
06:06 <luke-jr_work> curl http://blabla/.../some.iso | cdrecord ... -
06:06 <luke-jr_work> IIRC
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmm
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> you're right that it should work if it works in windows
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> is it an older burner?
06:10 <GodTodd> 2-3 years
06:10 * Lucifer_arma has never had a problem burning iso images
06:10 <GodTodd> burns everything else fine
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> just not iso images?
06:10 <GodTodd> make audio cds and crap no problem
06:10 <GodTodd> isos are the only thing i've had trouble with
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> are you sure the disc is 700MB and not one of the older 650MB discs?
06:10 <GodTodd> yep
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> what's the problem when it boots? Maybe it's booting fine, but there's something wrong with the computer itself :)
06:11 <GodTodd> 80min/700MB/48x CD-R
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> I've had that, bad memory that doesn't visibly affect windows causes a kernel panic in linux
06:11 <GodTodd> when i run cd integrity check it finds errors on the cd
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> is it a new cd spindle you opened? Have you burned onto cds from this batch before?
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> it's possible you got a bad batch of discs...
06:13 <GodTodd> yep
06:13 <GodTodd> i burned the iso for the ubuntu i put on here on this spindle
06:13 <luke-jr_work> [23:08:39] <GodTodd> cuz i know it's not bad cds or a bad burner since both did fine on burning under windows
06:16 <Lucifer_arma> did you try booting from one of the burns anyway?
06:18 <GodTodd> all of them
06:18 <GodTodd> and i'm trying one in the kitchen machine too
06:18 <GodTodd> that has booted ubuntu live cds before
06:20 <GodTodd> trying a burn on a different spindle
06:20 <GodTodd> different brand, 52x as opposed to 48x
06:20 <luke-jr_work> you realize the latest Ubuntus suck for hardware support, right?
06:20 <GodTodd> still 80min/700MB
06:21 <GodTodd> still cranked down to 4x write
06:25 <GodTodd> well...fuck a duck...it seems to have booted on the kitchen machine :/
06:26 <GodTodd> moving slow as hell...but hey it's a livecd ;)
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, livecds are slower than dirt
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> grrr, kpilot has crashed
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> probably I need to delete all of it's old data
06:31 <GodTodd> only reason i have to run the livecds is to make sure that some of the hardware is supported
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> damn, why doesn't kpilot work?
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> :(
06:42 * GodTodd has never used kpilot
06:42 <GodTodd> does ubuntu SE have a livecd?
06:42 <GodTodd> only option it gives me on boot is install
06:42 <GodTodd> not run/install
06:42 <GodTodd> motherfuckingcocksucker
06:42 <GodTodd> it's booting on that laptop now :/
06:42 <luke-jr_work> blarg
06:43 <GodTodd> er...it *was* anyway....letting it run until it works or i get some sort of error
06:52 <GodTodd> hrmm...still can't get it to boot fully on the laptop...does that point to bad memory or something with the cdrom?
06:52 <GodTodd> (no errors)
06:54 <GodTodd> nvm...running the mem test
06:54 <Lucifer_arma> hey, sometimes you just have to look at it
06:55 <GodTodd> look at what?
06:55 <Lucifer_arma> the thing that's broken?
06:56 <GodTodd> not sure what's broken tho
06:56 <Lucifer_arma> how's the mem test going?
06:56 <GodTodd> ok so far
06:56 <GodTodd> the laptop's a duron 900...should run linux fine ;)
06:57 <GodTodd> he wants to run linux "like daddy does" heh
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> do I want to install sun-java5 or sun-java6?
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> hell, my server's a duron 900
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> been running linux for years :)
07:00 <GodTodd> not much difference between java 5 and 6
07:00 <GodTodd> the jump was 4-5
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> http://gcaldaemon.sourceforge.net/ <--- this is what I want to run
07:01 <GodTodd> ubuntu server...is there a way to run it before installing or is it just a blind install?
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> blind install, sorry
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> it's a server, you're supposed to already know what you're doing :)
07:02 <GodTodd> ok
07:03 <GodTodd> well...i do...with everything except samba
07:03 <GodTodd> :)
07:03 <GodTodd> i just need that server to share the printers with linux and windows
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> you know, the whole world gets easier when you remove windows entirely and just install doors
07:04 <GodTodd> as for java...i'm one of those that installs the latest available until it breaks something
07:04 <GodTodd> :)
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> considering how this gcaldaemon works, I could probably write a workable clone of it in python fairly simply
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> well, java5 is giving me the right-versioned jre, which is what really matters to me right now
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> I've got af ew things left to do before I"m ready for school to start, and getting my palm to sync with google calendar is one of them
07:05 <GodTodd> i would go complete linux if karen didn't need win shit for work :/
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> (getting my printer back running is the other)
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> I swear that's what terminal services is for :)
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> rdesktop can even run individual applications instead of doing a whole login
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> haven't tried it, but it says it can do it
07:06 <GodTodd> vpns too?
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> wtf is vpns?
07:06 <GodTodd> virtual private network
07:07 <GodTodd> for when she has to work on her work box (and their servers) from home
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> sure, depends entirely on how they've set it up
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> (in other words, I'd need to know the name of the client she's running to find out)
07:08 <GodTodd> ummm...i think it's a homebrew client
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> virtual private network = buzzword
07:08 <GodTodd> let me check
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> sshfs :)
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> http://fuse.sourceforge.net/sshfs.html <--- that's all you need, speed
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, the idea behind a terminal server is that you keep one old windows box laying around that's well-integrated in your network, and use terminal services to serve up sessions
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> use rdesktop in linux to connect, and you've got your windows carefully locked away where you can use it when you need it, and otherwise not use it
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> but the catch is you have to have a good terminal server running, and microsoft's is the best available for windows, but it requires a windows server OS
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> I gave away my last copy of win2k advanced server, so I'd have to go bt to get something or other. :/
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> if your server is buff enough, you could run your windows machine inside a vmware session :)
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> z-man linked us to an open source app very similar to vmware, so there's an option over there that doesn't cost $400
07:13 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, lots of options, the hard part is figuring which one you really want, because they all take work. If you have a windows server OS, I think the terminal services route is the easiest, but it requires a dedicated machine
07:14 <GodTodd> i have all the windows server oses you could possibly (not) want ;)
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, I might be interested in one sometime :)
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> now that I have a machine tough enough to run a virtual server, anyway
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> hey, have you seen these liquid graphite pencils from pentech?
07:19 <GodTodd> nope
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmm
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> I bought a pack of 'em at costco the other day
07:19 <GodTodd> they cool?
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> they write like ball point pens, but their output is pencil lead
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> 0.5mm, it says
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> but they write like ball point pens, with all the good *and* bad that that entails
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> I guess I'll found out if they're cool when school starts
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> I either bought a really awesome piece of writing technology, or I totally wasted $10
07:20 <GodTodd> probably cuts down on lead breakage
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> tht's what I was thinking, but then you have a pencil that depends on gravity :/
07:21 <GodTodd> true
07:21 <GodTodd> but do you break lead more often than you write upside down?
07:21 <GodTodd> ;)
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> yes :)
07:21 <GodTodd> then my money is on the pros outweighing the cons :)
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> but depending on gravity is its own problem. Takes a pen that's been laying on its side several minutes of writing before it comes out thick and solid
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> heaven forbid you should accidentally put it in your backpack tip up, the thing may never write again!
07:22 <GodTodd> guess it depends on the viscosity of the liquid graphite then
07:22 <GodTodd> and hope you have a backup for those *really* cold days ;)
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> yeah. Although I haven't had a problem with pens laying on their sides recently, so maybe I'm just making up problems that aren't going to happen
07:23 * GodTodd doesn't know if liquid graphite is prone to freezing or not.
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> heh
07:24 * Lucifer_arma wonders how likely it is that there will be freezing weather in austin this year
07:25 <GodTodd> hey...we've had ice days before :P
07:25 <Lucifer_arma> man, this gcaldaemon is such a fucking hack
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> better if I could write a conduit for kpilot using python
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07:40 <HellBlade-Arma> ping xfroggy
07:46 <HellBlade-Arma> can someone help me with something?
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> the secret is to bang the rocks together
07:54 <HellBlade-Arma> awww
07:54 <HellBlade-Arma> I got it now
07:54 <HellBlade-Arma> TY Lucifer_arma
07:55 <luke-jr_work> wee
07:56 <GodTodd> well...the kubuntu burn works fine in the wife's laptop (zooms even)
07:57 <DrJoeTron> http://shop3.outpost.com/%7BXVBqqS+Zd-OnurLzoCSI-Q**.node2%7D/product/5316838;jsessionid=XVBqqS+Zd-OnurLzoCSI-Q**.node2?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG how does this look for a monitor,
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> but not in the kid's laptop?
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> DrJoeTron: can't tell, because I have to look at it on my existing monitor
08:01 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: yep but not the kid's laptop :/
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> how old is it?
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> the laptop, not the burn :)
08:01 <GodTodd> pretty old...not sure...it's a hand me down....probably upwards of 5-6 years old
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> that's old enough to have some wonkety hardware in it
08:02 <spidey> wow
08:02 <spidey> it's almost as old as mine
08:02 <GodTodd> i've installed linux on older machines (but not ubuntu)
08:02 <spidey> this pc was made in 2002ish
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> cdrom drives are sensitive to aging :/
08:03 <GodTodd> spidey: that's why it's a kid machine ;)
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> I say that, but the cdrom drives I have that actually work are my really old ones
08:03 <spidey> wtf?
08:03 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: yeah...i'm fearing that the cdrom may be the problem
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> the newest ones, besides the one in my laptop, are broken
08:03 <spidey> GodTodd, my machine probably goes through more hell than 2 of yours :p
08:03 <spidey> and it still runs great :D
08:03 <GodTodd> spidey: i wouldn't count on that :P
08:04 <GodTodd> my server upstairs is from when i started school the second time
08:04 <GodTodd> @2000ish
08:04 <spidey> my server beside me is from the dinointernet age
08:04 <spidey> pentium 2
08:04 <GodTodd> duron 750 for mine upstairs
08:05 <spidey> i have a older one..
08:05 * GodTodd prefers amd chips
08:05 <spidey> pentium 1 :D
08:05 <GodTodd> oh yeah? well...the first computer i bought was a 386 sx 16 :P
08:05 <spidey> last amd i used shutdown every 2 hours
08:05 * GodTodd gets into the pissing match ;)
08:05 <spidey> so i'm not a big fan of them
08:06 <GodTodd> amd running upstairs for 7 years strong
08:06 <GodTodd> it's outlasted a PS
08:06 <spidey> PS?
08:06 <GodTodd> power supply
08:06 <spidey> psu :p
08:07 <spidey> first pc i ever used was this little apple like thing
08:07 <spidey> it had a small monitor
08:07 * GodTodd doesn't know anyone that says "i'm going to replace that power supply unit" :P
08:07 <GodTodd> don't even go into first computer used ;)
08:07 <GodTodd> ever hear of the VIC20?
08:07 <GodTodd> :P
08:07 <spidey> no
08:07 <GodTodd> exactly
08:07 <GodTodd> :)
08:08 <GodTodd> 82-83ish
08:08 <spidey> lol
08:08 <spidey> o
08:08 <spidey> commodore
08:08 <GodTodd> yeah...i remember the C64
08:09 <spidey> 5kb ram?
08:09 <spidey> my text editor uses more than that!
08:09 <GodTodd> the VIC20 was cassette tape based
08:15 <GodTodd> wooo....zoomed at upwards of 1 MHz too
08:15 <GodTodd> :)
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> my server's got amd crap in it
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> oh hell, the only intel chip I've got running right now is running as a thin client
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> wait, that's not true anymore, heh
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> nvm
08:17 * Lucifer_arma goes back to gcaldaemon
08:22 <Lucifer_arma> great, I've got gcaldaemon working with one calendar, but I have a bunch of google calendars I need synced! :/
08:29 <GodTodd> a debian walkthrough of cups/samba setup should more or less work for ubuntu server, right? (since ubuntu is debian based)
08:30 <GodTodd> cuz i found a snazzy walkthrough that almost gives me the confidence to just do the print server
08:30 <GodTodd> :)
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08:34 <Lucifer_arma> more or less, heh :)
08:34 <Lucifer_arma> there's probably an ubuntu walkthrough somewhere
08:44 <GodTodd> probably :)
09:00 <Lucifer_arma> man, I broke my calendar :/
09:00 <Lucifer_arma> hopefully it's fixable, though
09:11 <HellBlade-Arma> alright
09:11 <HellBlade-Arma> hmm
09:11 <HellBlade-Arma> darn it
09:12 <HellBlade-Arma> sorry I'm testing some settings
09:13 <HellBlade-Arma> alright
09:13 <HellBlade-Arma> there we go
09:14 <HellBlade-Arma> hmm why isn't growl working
09:14 <Lucifer_arma> I'll deal with this tomorrow
09:14 <Lucifer_arma> at least it syncs to my pda, even if I screwed up the timezone
09:14 <HellBlade-Arma> hmmm
09:14 <HellBlade-Arma> why isn't it showing my messages?
09:15 <HellBlade-Arma> and why is yours staying up...
09:15 <HellBlade-Arma> my growl is freaking out
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09:16 <HellBlade-Arma> darn it
09:16 <HellBlade-Arma> this is annoying
09:18 <HellBlade-Arma> I think I might need to restart
09:18 <HellBlade-Arma> #uptime
09:18 <HellBlade-Arma> awww
09:18 <HellBlade-Arma> I remember on zoite you could do that -.-
09:20 <HellBlade-Arma> Uptime - 26 days 9 hours 55 minutes 43 seconds
09:20 <HellBlade-Arma> you think I'm due for a restart?
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09:29 <Stewie-arma> #weather 92037
09:30 <armabot> Stewie-arma: The current temperature in La Jolla Shores, La Jolla, California is 77.2°F (12:35 AM PDT on August 20, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 66.2°F. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011.4 hPa (Rising).
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09:56 <spidey> ooookkk
09:56 <spidey> so i'ma attempt to install *nix
09:56 <spidey> again
10:07 <spidey> aye
10:07 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, are you there? or luke-jr_work
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10:26 <Lucifer_arma> sorta, depends on how long it takes to answer the question
10:35 <tramshed> 34seconds.
10:40 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, it'll take a bit
10:40 <spidey> i need help installing ATI drivers =/
10:40 <spidey> i can't get them to work under ubuntu
10:43 <Lucifer_arma> ah, I'm not going to be able to help then anyway, sorry
10:43 <spidey> :(
10:44 <eddiefantastic> you try enabling the restricted drivers?
10:44 <eddiefantastic> if it's a recent ati card
10:44 <spidey> 9250
10:45 <eddiefantastic> system->administration>restricted drivers
10:45 <spidey> well
10:45 <eddiefantastic> see if your card is there, if so, enable the restricted drivers
10:45 <spidey> i'll be building a desktop from the server install
10:45 <spidey> because i don't have any blank cd's anymore
10:46 <eddiefantastic> that's ok, just apt-get install gnome
10:46 <eddiefantastic> then go from there
10:46 <spidey> fluxbox! :(
10:46 <spidey> i guess gnome will work though
10:46 <eddiefantastic> not used that, exect on my xbox
10:46 <eddiefantastic> *except
10:47 <spidey> last time i had a friend helping, he said i needed the generic kerna
10:47 <spidey> kernal
10:47 <eddiefantastic> you have feisty fawn right?
10:47 <spidey> feisty won't even boot for me
10:47 <spidey> it gives me a error screen due to my gfx
10:47 <eddiefantastic> ah, you wont have restricted drivers then :(
10:48 <spidey> red box, not sure what it says
10:48 <eddiefantastic> what is the 9250? a very recent one?
10:48 <spidey> hmm
10:48 <eddiefantastic> I hear linux and ati aren't the best friends
10:48 <spidey> ati visiontek radeon 9250
10:49 <spidey> yea, me to heh
10:49 <spidey> i think it came out in
10:49 <spidey> 2005
10:49 <spidey> though i bought mine like 4 months ago
10:50 <eddiefantastic> you could install your older ubuntu, update the sources to feisty, run apt-get upgrade, then gnome, then enable restricted drivers ;)
10:50 <spidey> the guy helping me also had me do that
10:50 <eddiefantastic> but it's a long shot
10:50 <spidey> i ended up reinstalling ubuntu
10:52 <Lucifer_arma> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goliath_birdeater
10:52 <eddiefantastic> http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.24.8.html
10:52 <eddiefantastic> not done it myself, but it looks fairly straightforward
10:52 <eddiefantastic> if it works
10:52 <spidey> yea, was reading it earlier
10:58 <spidey> shit
10:59 <spidey> i accidently encrypted the folder with all my movies in them, so i decrypted them to move them, now half of them are weird, like green gamma/red gamma colors
11:02 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.spiderzrule.com/wolf%20spider.jpg <--- just found one of these fuckers in my garage
11:02 <Lucifer_arma> big enough to make all sorts of noise when walking over a piece of cardboard
11:05 <spidey> i've killed one of those in the kitchen
11:05 <spidey> well, looked like that anyways
11:06 <spidey> was it about the size of one of those dollar coins?
11:06 <spidey> not the gold ones
11:06 <spidey> ah
11:06 <spidey> silver dallors, there we go
11:06 <spidey> dollars*
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14:50 <ghableska> #weather 50266
14:50 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 72.3°F (7:54 AM CDT on August 20, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 66.2°F. Pressure: 28.81 in 975.5 hPa (Rising). Flash Flood Watch in effect from noon CDT today through Wednesday afternoon...
14:50 <ghableska> #tea
14:50 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: No online players.
14:52 <DrJoeTron> ghableska oh hai
14:53 <ghableska> hey DrJoeTron
14:54 <DrJoeTron> where have you been
14:54 <ghableska> out and about :p
14:54 <ghableska> school starts up on Wednesday :/
14:54 <DrJoeTron> ah
14:55 <ghableska> yeah
14:55 <Seeker> Hey doc.....hows it goin
14:55 <DrJoeTron> oh shit Seeker when the hell did you come in here
14:55 <DrJoeTron> :I
14:56 <Seeker> been here all mornin.......i sign in when i get to work
14:56 <Seeker> miss me?
14:56 <DrJoeTron> ahaha we must be on at awkward times then
14:56 <DrJoeTron> I did :3
14:56 <DrJoeTron> ghableska did you see the steam community shit?
14:56 <ghableska> no...?
14:57 <Seeker> luci told me to get my ass in gear and head over here (maybe not in those words ;) ) so I did
14:57 <DrJoeTron> its steam facebook
14:57 <DrJoeTron> or steambook
14:57 <DrJoeTron> or steamface
14:57 <DrJoeTron> or booksteam
14:58 <DrJoeTron> www.steamcommunity.com
14:58 <ghableska> o_O
14:58 <DrJoeTron> heah
14:58 <DrJoeTron> its like the facebook for nerds
14:58 <ghableska> haha, yeah
14:59 <DrJoeTron> if you apply for the beta on steam it gets added
14:59 <ghableska> so valve made it?
14:59 <DrJoeTron> and friends gets super graphical
14:59 <DrJoeTron> I guess so
14:59 <Seeker> afk
15:02 <ghableska> wow, it really is like a facebook for nerds
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15:07 <DrJoeTron> haha isn't it?
15:08 <DrJoeTron> i got really bored and joined groups one night
15:08 <ghableska> :o
15:08 <ghableska> oh, joe: http://futuremark.yougamers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23914
15:11 <DrJoeTron> ahahaha
15:11 <DrJoeTron> Never tell my password to anyone!
15:12 <ghableska> heh
15:15 <DrJoeTron> awesome the arma chat logs dont show up on google anymore!
15:15 <DrJoeTron> #m Thanks wrtlprnft :)
15:15 <armabot> DrJoeTron: The operation succeeded.
15:15 <ghableska> #realchatlogs
15:15 <armabot> ghableska: http://master3.armagetronad.net/armalogs/
15:19 <DrJoeTron> ghableska sign on to steam tia
15:19 <ghableska> can't. :/
15:19 <DrJoeTron> ur gibson was hacked? :/
15:19 <ghableska> nah
15:19 <ghableska> my computer is dead, heh
15:20 <DrJoeTron> how did you do that?
15:21 <ghableska> no clue, it just won't boot up for some reason
15:21 <DrJoeTron> like at all?
15:21 <DrJoeTron> does it make a sound?
15:21 <ghableska> it turns on...but doesn't boot
15:21 <ghableska> no beeps or anything
15:21 <DrJoeTron> the bios?
15:21 <Seeker> TURN ON THE MONITOR
15:21 <Seeker> armabot;)
15:21 <DrJoeTron> did you try clearing the cmos and then abandoning al hope?
15:22 <ghableska> err
15:22 <ghableska> no?
15:22 <DrJoeTron> try that
15:22 <ghableska> how?
15:22 <DrJoeTron> its either a jumper
15:22 <DrJoeTron> or a battery
15:22 <Seeker> or both
15:22 <DrJoeTron> either way unplug the computer from the wall
15:22 <DrJoeTron> locate the jumper or the battery
15:22 <DrJoeTron> its labeled on the motherboard usually
15:23 <ghableska> ok
15:23 <ghableska> bbbl
15:23 <DrJoeTron> if its a jumper, connect to the adjacent set of pins
15:23 <ghableska> *bbl
15:23 <DrJoeTron> wait for 10 seconds
15:23 <DrJoeTron> then put it back and reboot
15:24 <DrJoeTron> or pin
15:24 <DrJoeTron> i think its just a row of 3 and the jumper is on 2 of them
15:24 <Seeker> i hate dead puters
15:24 <DrJoeTron> right?
15:24 <DrJoeTron> they just take up space
15:24 <Seeker> yea
15:25 <DrJoeTron> my other one is a zombie
15:25 <DrJoeTron> it runs, but at half speed
15:25 <Seeker> usually the jumper is labeled clear cmos
15:25 <DrJoeTron> yeah
15:25 <DrJoeTron> i didnt know about the cmos trick untill i pissed of the motherboard
15:25 <Seeker> lol
15:25 <DrJoeTron> and kept hearing the speaker go BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP
15:26 <DrJoeTron> and refusing to boot
15:26 <Seeker> i actually pulled the mobo speaker OFF OF THE BOARD cause it wouldnt shut up once
15:26 <DrJoeTron> hahaha
15:26 <Seeker> i felt better
15:26 <DrJoeTron> when I was fooling around with Wiimote scripts on the pc
15:27 <DrJoeTron> this one program kept beeping the pc speaker
15:27 <DrJoeTron> it was so fuckign annoying
15:28 <Seeker> have you ever tried filling the little hole on the motherboard speaker with epoxy? I wonder if it would work
15:28 <DrJoeTron> hahaha
15:28 <DrJoeTron> i got this itty bitty one that just barely chirps
15:28 <Seeker> <--- pulls apart dell workstation and finds his jb weald
15:28 <DrJoeTron> the one thats in my server
15:28 <DrJoeTron> is so fucking loud
15:28 <Seeker> mind too
15:29 <Seeker> my raid aray died last month and it was sooo loud i didnt want to work in the server room
15:30 <Seeker> i had a headach by the time i finished with it
15:30 <Seeker> Are you workin doc?
15:30 <DrJoeTron> yes
15:30 <DrJoeTron> at the moment no
15:30 <Seeker> lol......gotta love it
15:30 <Seeker> me too
15:31 <DrJoeTron> im not working till wednesday
15:31 <Seeker> so tired of cad........
15:31 <Seeker> wed?
15:31 <Seeker> why?
15:31 <DrJoeTron> heah till saturday
15:31 <Seeker> or is that just how it is
15:31 <DrJoeTron> thats when we're shooting
15:31 <Seeker> lol
15:31 <Seeker> ahh by choice....i see now
15:31 <DrJoeTron> nah thats just when the call is fo
15:31 <DrJoeTron> r
15:32 <DrJoeTron> i'll take any job they'll give me
15:32 <Seeker> what do you do?
15:32 <DrJoeTron> i work on movie sets
15:32 <Seeker> cool
15:32 <DrJoeTron> whatever they want me to do
15:32 <Seeker> better than my pos job
15:32 <DrJoeTron> this gig it looks like i'll be a PA
15:32 <DrJoeTron> which involves somewhat policing and going "heres your coffee sir"
15:33 <DrJoeTron> its pretty fun
15:33 <Seeker> bring me some coffee while your at it then
15:33 <DrJoeTron> yes sir :I
15:33 <Seeker> lol
15:34 <Seeker> i always seem to make my way back to arma, no matter how long im gone
15:34 <DrJoeTron> haha
15:35 <DrJoeTron> arma is getting more of a hassle to play for me
15:35 <Seeker> i was out for what.....almost a year this time
15:35 <DrJoeTron> you didnt really miss much
15:35 <DrJoeTron> just other people leaving
15:35 <DrJoeTron> and other people coming back
15:35 <Seeker> i have noticed there are a lot less good old style servers around now
15:35 <DrJoeTron> yeah :/
15:35 <DrJoeTron> we're a rare breed
15:36 <Seeker> i dont like the ones with the funky maps and stuff
15:36 <DrJoeTron> my servers are still up :V
15:36 <Seeker> which ones......i forgot
15:36 <Seeker> oh....the cage
15:36 <DrJoeTron> lobster cage, and shrunkland
15:36 <Seeker> i was there the other day
15:37 <Seeker> i bookmarked all the best old style sites
15:38 <Seeker> i think the maps may not have been the best idea for this game . but i dont mind the play styles like fortress or sumo.........just keep the good old square and 90 deg turns
15:39 <ghableska> ok, DrJoeTron
15:39 <eddiefantastic> Seeker: many people would disagree with you there. It's all about choice
15:39 <Seeker> i know
15:39 <Seeker> its just my opinion
15:39 <ghableska> what am I looking for?
15:39 * eddiefantastic the guy who makes all the maps and includes crazy settings
15:40 <Seeker> i dont have to play those maps, so I dont......but there are always a LOT of people in those servers
15:41 <eddiefantastic> yes, I'd have thought they'd be bored of them by now
15:41 <Seeker> i just like the simplicity of a good ole square
15:41 <Seeker> ;)
15:41 <eddiefantastic> me too, but also like the challenge of new maps/settings
15:42 <Seeker> if i want a challenge...ill put up a server with crazy speed and low rubber......
15:42 <eddiefantastic> ah, different type of challenge
15:42 <eddiefantastic> play a few matches at ctwf
15:42 <Seeker> yup
15:42 <Seeker> ?
15:42 <Seeker> ctwf
15:43 <eddiefantastic> crazy tronners wild fortress
15:43 <Seeker> i been gone for a year.....enlioghten me
15:43 <Seeker> ahh
15:43 <eddiefantastic> over 100 maps there now, with all manner of interesting settings
15:43 <Seeker> thats usually at the top of the list sorted by players
15:43 <eddiefantastic> it's a busy place
15:44 <ghableska> DrJoeTron:
15:44 <eddiefantastic> it's also not avoided by many
15:44 <Seeker> i remember playing fortress before I started playing oblivion and stopped with tron
15:44 <eddiefantastic> it's also avoided by many
15:45 <eddiefantastic> it's based on fortress, but with crazy maps and settings
15:45 <Seeker> i may pop in and have a go............maybe ill find somthing that catches my interest
15:45 <eddiefantastic> do so, I'd be interested how you like it
15:46 <eddiefantastic> it's not one of these high rubber, wall hugging affairs
15:46 <Seeker> thats one thing i love about tron..........INFINITE REPLAYABILITY
15:46 <Seeker> i get tired of beating the games I have.......so I always fire up tron
15:46 <DrJoeTron> ghableska
15:47 <ghableska> ok, what does the jumper look like?
15:47 <DrJoeTron> little peice of plastic
15:47 <DrJoeTron> tiny one
15:48 <Seeker> whats you player nic eddie?
15:48 <ghableska> hmm
15:48 <ghableska> how do I know if I have a jumper or battery?
15:48 <Seeker> maybe ill see ya around
15:49 <Seeker> ghableska..........you prob have both
15:49 <ghableska> ok
15:49 <ghableska> I see a circular battery...
15:49 <Seeker> yes
15:49 <Seeker> that is the cmos battery
15:49 <ghableska> should I take that out?
15:49 <Seeker> unplug the computyer from the wall, and remove that battery
15:50 <ghableska> and then?
15:50 <Seeker> withe the battery out and the plug unplugged.......press the power button
15:50 <Seeker> that should discharge any power in the system......leave the computer alone for 30 seconds
15:51 <ghableska> ok, I'm trying to get the battery out first. :p
15:51 <ghableska> grr
15:51 <Seeker> then replace the battery and the plug, and try to boot it. if that dosent work, you will need to try to find the jumper
15:53 <Seeker> to remove the battery, you need to squeeze the small retaining clip and simultainiously pry out the battery (be gentle
15:54 <DrJoeTron> i gotta run and go finish registering
15:54 <DrJoeTron> ttyl
15:54 <Seeker> see ya later joe
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15:54 <ghableska> hi MrBougo
15:54 <Seeker> brb, need coffee
15:54 <ghableska> ok, I got the battery out
15:55 <MrBougo> #ghab
15:55 <MrBougo> hiho
16:00 <ghableska> awww, it didn't work :/
16:01 <DrJoeTron> find the jumper
16:02 <DrJoeTron> you know those little plastic things in the back of your cd/hard drive whatever?
16:02 <Seeker> ok, im back........ ghab, do you get any video at all, like the video bios info, when you try to start the computer?
16:02 <ghableska> nothing
16:02 <DrJoeTron> find dat jumper mang
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16:02 <Seeker> do you have a discrete video card or integrated graphics?
16:03 <ghableska> discrete
16:03 <DrJoeTron> bbl again
16:03 <ghableska> I'm not sure if it's related, but when my computer booted up normally, it would always emit one beep before showing the manufacturer's logo, etc...
16:03 <ghableska> but now I don't hear a beep
16:04 <Seeker> hmmmm.......have you made any changes to the system (added memory...etc...etc)?
16:05 <ghableska> nope
16:05 <Seeker> grrrrrr, do you have another computer you can trade parts with if you cant find the cmos jumper?
16:06 <ghableska> the one I'm using...but I don't think this one has the jumper either
16:06 <Seeker> i have a feeling you may have a hardware failure.............but I cant tell yet
16:07 <Seeker> in your opinion, how well do you know computer hardware?
16:07 <ghableska> er, not very well
16:07 <ghableska> but what failed? the memory or the mobo?
16:07 <Seeker> is your system a prebuilt system?
16:07 <ghableska> yes
16:08 <Seeker> what kind of computer is it? make and model
16:08 <ghableska> alienware area 51
16:08 <Seeker> nice!!!!!
16:08 <ghableska> :d
16:08 <Seeker> ok, how old is it?
16:09 <ghableska> about 2 years
16:09 <Seeker> ok, hold on
16:10 <mkzelda> #weather 27545
16:10 <armabot> mkzelda: The current temperature in Hedingham, Raleigh, North Carolina is 86.9°F (10:15 AM EDT on August 20, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 66.2°F. Pressure: 30.06 in 1017.8 hPa (Steady).
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16:13 <Seeker> have you tried to contact alienware?
16:14 <MrBougo> woa, he has an alienware
16:15 <Seeker> a dead one we are trying to get working
16:15 <MrBougo> aw
16:15 <Seeker> yea
16:15 <ghableska> yeah, but apparently my free phone support service has expired, so I have to pay for 1 year phone support
16:15 <ghableska> hehe
16:15 <ghableska> that's a last resort
16:16 <MrBougo> ack
16:16 <Seeker> ghab, do you still have the documents that came with the system?
16:16 <ghableska> like the manual?
16:16 <MrBougo> jesus, the moz servers are slow!!!
16:16 <Seeker> yea.....it should tell you how to reset the cmos
16:16 <MrBougo> any mirror for thunderbird?
16:16 <Seeker> lol....i just let it dl bougo
16:17 <ghableska> ok, and in the troubleshooting section, it said "Computer will not POST"; is that the problem I'm having?
16:17 <Seeker> its always slow
16:17 <Seeker> yes ghab
16:17 <MrBougo> its ok
16:17 <Seeker> that is what we are workin on now
16:17 <MrBougo> 2 monutes remainin'
16:17 <MrBougo> minutes
16:17 <MrBougo> i switched from a "comfort curve" keyboard to a regular one
16:17 <MrBougo> thats crazt
16:17 <ghableska> hmm
16:18 <MrBougo> i make lots of typos
16:18 <MrBougo> more than usuely
16:18 <Seeker> dialup sux huh????? lol
16:18 <MrBougo> IT DOZ
16:18 <MrBougo> but it aint dialup
16:18 <MrBougo> thats belgian dsl
16:18 <ghableska> it doesn't say anything about how to reset the cmos
16:18 <ghableska> should I check my mobo's manufacturer's website?
16:18 <Seeker> any luck with that manual ghab
16:18 <ghableska> nah
16:19 <MrBougo> theres a jumper
16:19 <Seeker> what kind of mobo is it/
16:19 <MrBougo> "clear cmos"
16:19 <MrBougo> its written somwehere
16:19 <Seeker> thats what were lookin for
16:19 <Seeker> hes not super tech savy
16:19 <ghableska> Asus p5ND2-SLI
16:19 <MrBougo> aw
16:19 <MrBougo> thats your motherboard?
16:20 <Seeker> so we are goin step by step
16:20 <ghableska> yeah
16:20 <ghableska> why?
16:20 <MrBougo> http://www.bgslevi.cz/image/AsusP5ND2SLIdeluxe.jpg
16:20 <Seeker> basic or delux
16:20 <MrBougo> here's a "city map"
16:20 <Seeker> im lookin on alienwares site now too
16:20 <ghableska> hmm
16:21 <ghableska> I'm not sure if it's basic or deluxe
16:21 <ghableska> the writing on the mobo doesn't say
16:21 <ghableska> hmm, it's actually ASUS P5ND2-SLI NFORCE4 MB
16:21 <ghableska> not sure if that helps...
16:21 <Seeker> clrtc
16:22 <ghableska> ok, it's deluxe
16:22 <Seeker> switch that jumper and try to reboot
16:22 <ghableska> first I need to find it, heh
16:22 <Seeker> just below the battery
16:22 <ghableska> ok
16:22 <Seeker> above the sata ports
16:23 <ghableska> wait
16:23 <ghableska> CLRTC?
16:23 <Seeker> 2 sets of jumpers there........yes the top one
16:23 <ghableska> ok, so I move that down one pin?
16:23 <ghableska> er, the left jumper or right one?
16:23 <Seeker> over one pin....yes
16:23 <Seeker> yes
16:24 <MrBougo> Seeker: where'd you find that info?
16:24 <MrBougo> do you have the same MB? :p
16:24 <Seeker> no, im looking at the pic you gave the link too
16:24 <Seeker> ;)
16:24 <MrBougo> eek
16:24 <Seeker> im a hardware freak
16:25 <ghableska> ok, now what?
16:25 <MrBougo> what does clrtc mean oO
16:25 <Seeker> with the jumper moved.....try to reboot the computer
16:25 <ghableska> is it ok to leave the case open?
16:25 <GodTodd> hell yes :)
16:25 <Seeker> just a guess CLRTC~ Clear The CMOS
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16:26 <Seeker> yea
16:26 <ghableska> ok
16:26 <luke-jr_work> err
16:26 <luke-jr_work> don't boot the PC that way!
16:26 * GodTodd always runs with an open case when working on shit
16:26 <luke-jr_work> you move it when it's OFF
16:26 <Seeker> yes, it will clear the settings
16:26 <luke-jr_work> and put it back before you turn it on
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16:26 <Seeker> then you turn it off again and replace the jumper
16:26 <MrBougo> oh
16:26 <Seeker> and turn it back on
16:26 <luke-jr_work> Seeker: you never turn it on like that
16:27 <MrBougo> so the jumper "cuts" the power
16:27 <MrBougo> to the cmos
16:27 <ghableska> how long do I leave it on?
16:27 <luke-jr_work> ghableska: you don't turn it on
16:27 <luke-jr_work> who knows what chaos will ensue
16:27 <MrBougo> lol
16:28 * luke-jr_work smacks Seeker for bad advice
16:28 <MrBougo> smack?
16:28 <MrBougo> slap you mean
16:28 <luke-jr_work> both
16:28 <MrBougo> hehe
16:28 <ghableska> ok, I replaced the jumper
16:28 <luke-jr_work> and drop a 10 ton box of UNIX manuals on him
16:29 <luke-jr_work> ghableska: hope your computer still works
16:29 <MrBougo> wth
16:29 <MrBougo> it didnt work before, luke
16:29 <luke-jr_work> lol
16:29 <luke-jr_work> well, presumably that was a different problem
16:29 <MrBougo> lawl
16:31 <Seeker> hold tight
16:31 * eddiefantastic is confused. why is it so bad to clear the cmos?
16:32 <Seeker> its not
16:32 <eddiefantastic> that's what I thought, but luke here disagrees
16:33 <ghableska> ok, that didn't work
16:33 <eddiefantastic> gnab, you get nothing at all, right?
16:33 <ghableska> correct
16:34 <eddiefantastic> do the fans whirr, etc?
16:34 <ghableska> yeah
16:34 <ghableska> but nothing appears onscreen
16:34 <ghableska> and my computer always beeps once before it boots
16:34 <GodTodd> it's supposed to
16:34 <GodTodd> that's the post
16:34 <GodTodd> beep means "everything's ok"
16:34 <ghableska> now it doesn't beep :p
16:34 <eddiefantastic> maybe it's the graphics card
16:35 <GodTodd> it could be bad ram too
16:35 <luke-jr_work> eddiefantastic: it's not, but it's bad to turn the PC on while it's in reset-mode
16:35 <eddiefantastic> can you turn the caps lock light on and off with the caps lock button?
16:35 <ghableska> hmm, lemme check
16:35 <eddiefantastic> bad ram should give you a different post beep code
16:36 <Seeker> did you put the jumper back?
16:36 <eddiefantastic> if it's that bad
16:36 <GodTodd> basically, ghableska, usually not posting means that some hardware somewhere has failed
16:36 <ghableska> Seeker yes
16:36 <GodTodd> eddiefantastic: i've had many times it gave no post
16:36 <ghableska> back in its original position
16:36 <Seeker> ok
16:36 <ghableska> should I bother with the caps lock test?
16:37 <Seeker> luke, turning on a computer in reste mode does nothing
16:37 <luke-jr_work> Seeker: on some motherboards
16:37 <luke-jr_work> you're not supposed to-- some might do nothing, others might fry
16:38 <luke-jr_work> if ghableska's just stopped beeping now, that's probably why
16:38 <ghableska> no, luke-jr_work, it stopped beeping after it stopped working
16:38 <Seeker> i have never seen one fry, or heard of one frying from that.....and i have used some really shitty boards
16:38 <ghableska> it's been like this for several days
16:39 <luke-jr_work> Seeker: good for you, but there's absolutely no reason to take that risk
16:39 <luke-jr_work> ghableska: what changed?
16:39 * GodTodd personally would start by unplugging everything from the mobo except the bare necessities and see if it posts
16:39 <Seeker> i am pretty sure you have a hardware failure, but since your using you other computer, its kinda hard to help you test syuff out
16:40 <ghableska> luke-jr_work: what do you mean?
16:40 <MrBougo> bye
16:40 <luke-jr_work> GodTodd: that might work, but with more and more being builtin the mobo, it's not overly likely now IIRC
16:40 <Seeker> same ? i asked already
16:40 <luke-jr_work> ghableska: what changed since it last worked?
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16:40 <Seeker> nothing
16:40 <Seeker> just died on him
16:40 <ghableska> yeah
16:41 <luke-jr_work> ghableska: onboard video?
16:41 <Seeker> no...discrete
16:41 <ghableska> eddiefantastic: I can't turn on the caps lock light
16:41 <ghableska> nor numlock
16:41 <luke-jr_work> ok, well give GodTodd's idea a shot
16:41 <luke-jr_work> unplug everything except power
16:41 * GodTodd bows to luke-jr_work's superior knowledge...wtf do i know anyway, i just have been tearing down and rebuilding computers for 20 years and have a degree in it
16:41 <luke-jr_work> and CPU fan obviously
16:41 <Seeker> its an alienware area 51
16:42 <Seeker> not a bad system
16:42 <luke-jr_work> GodTodd: things change in 20 years
16:42 <GodTodd> for 20 years and currently you fucking moron
16:42 <luke-jr_work> :)
16:43 <GodTodd> and, no, posting errors have not really changed in 20 years
16:45 <ghableska> maybe my power supply has gone screwy?
16:45 <GodTodd> doubt it
16:46 <Seeker> dont doubt it.............you wont know unless you test it.
16:46 <GodTodd> doubt it means that it could be but is less likely than something else :P
16:46 <Seeker> i have had 4 bad power supplies in the last year.
16:46 <ghableska> :o
16:46 <luke-jr_work> GodTodd: I wasn't aware EFI even had POST
16:47 <ghableska> it's a SilverStone PSU...
16:47 <Seeker> where did you get efi from....this is a nf4 board
16:47 <luke-jr_work> Seeker: I am talking in general :)
16:47 <Seeker> its still bios
16:47 <GodTodd> luke-jr_work: show me a mobo that doesn't have some sort of post
16:47 <luke-jr_work> GodTodd: EFI mobos do?
16:47 <Seeker> i have never seen efi so i couldnt tell ya
16:48 <GodTodd> it's basic computers...it has to test itself after power is applied...hence Power On-Self Test
16:48 <Seeker> and I would think they would keep a feature like POWER ON SELF TEST
16:48 <luke-jr_work> except POST is a specific kind of testing procedure
16:49 <Seeker> no, post is the acronym for a power on self test, not all posts are the same, or do things ion the same order
16:49 <luke-jr_work> SMTP is the acronym for a simple mail transport protocol-- does that mean I can make a new SMTP protocol?!?!
16:49 <GodTodd> ah well...i'll defer to luke-jr_work...i would try and help but obviously know nothing...i'll let the real expert handle it...not like i've ever been paid for my computer hardware knowledge.....
16:49 <Seeker> they all check he same things though
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16:50 <Seeker> agreed todd
16:50 <Seeker> all his now.....i have work to do anywayt
16:50 <Seeker> good luck guys...
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16:51 * GodTodd waits and watches to see how luke-jr_work fixes ghableska's computer.
16:51 <ghableska> btw, what's the little button next to the power button?
16:53 <GodTodd> there's usually a power and reset....if the button you're talking about looks kinda like the power button
16:53 <ghableska> yeah
16:56 <GodTodd> basic computer maintenance teaches that in this sort of situation, you take the computer to bare bones and see if it works as expected...if so then you start plugging your crap back in one thing at a time...test after each thing...once you have a failed test the last thing you plugged in is the problem
16:58 <GodTodd> but, then, you might want to check with luke-jr_work because i could be (and probably am) wrong
16:58 <ghableska> er
17:03 <ghableska> wow, the forums were just hit with a massive spam attack
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17:59 <ghableska> #tea
17:59 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: No online players.
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18:20 <ghableska> wb Seeker
18:21 <Seeker> did you guys figure anything out?
18:22 <ghableska> well, todd suggested plugging things back in one by one
18:22 <ghableska> I haven't done that yet :p
18:25 <Seeker> brb
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18:26 <Seeker> installed a new skin for trillian
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18:38 <mkzelda> wooo im done w/ house arrest
18:38 <mkzelda> just cut off the bracelet
18:39 * Seeker hates work!!!
18:40 <DrJoeTron> oh hai
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18:44 <Lucifer_arma> work hates seeker :)
18:44 <Seeker> yea....i know
18:45 <Seeker> its trying to kill me
18:45 <Lucifer_arma> well, I just got my kids all creeped out showing them spiders and shit
18:45 <Seeker> lol
18:45 <Seeker> luci....u still in texas?
18:45 <Lucifer_arma> we started with "this is the spider I saw in the garage last night" and ended with the biggest spiders in the world
18:45 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, still in texas
18:45 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: you showed them spidey?
18:46 * Seeker is arachniphobic
18:47 <Lucifer_arma> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goliath_birdeater
18:47 <Seeker> yea, thats a big damn spider
18:48 <Lucifer_arma> anything big enough to wear a dog collar is big enough to put on the barbecue grill
18:48 <Seeker> lol
18:50 <Lucifer_arma> hmm, I'm a grab another smoke and then feed the herd
18:50 <Lucifer_arma> then I've got one more particularly important todo before school starts, and I've got to work today
18:50 <Seeker> how many kids you got?
18:53 <DrJoeTron> 37
18:54 <Seeker> ?!?!?!?!?!? not all yours i hope!!!!
18:54 * Seeker thinks doc needs birth control!!!
18:55 <GodTodd> ugly is the best birth control
18:56 <GodTodd> er wait...that doesn't work... luke-jr has kids...
18:56 <Seeker> thats why I stopped at 2........
19:06 <luke-jr> birth control is evil
19:07 <GodTodd> therefore ugly is evil
19:07 <GodTodd> therefore luke-jr will go to hell :)
19:07 * Seeker is evil
19:10 * GodTodd is evilerer
19:12 <Seeker> ok....question...........and yes this is the first time i have used IRC (never had the need), are there any commands like slaping people for stupidity?
19:13 <GodTodd> #list alias
19:14 <armabot> GodTodd: monologue, roulette, \:o, add, afl, armabot, armaconfig, armaservers, armasettings, babel, ball, bigbrother, bounce, bug, bye, cat, cfg, chatlog, check, cinf, cink, crazylate, ctwf, dance, date, davestupidwebsite"rss, ddl, delire, die, die, digg, digitx, ding, do, dog, dong, eliza, eroulette, f, fastfood, finc, fink, fofo, fortune, g, gcalc, gfight, go, goodbye, hd, hell, hello, hey, hoop, (2 more messages)
19:14 <GodTodd> #more
19:14 <armabot> GodTodd: hungary, hyphy, impregnate, insight, ircstats, joke, kill, killsomeone, kinc, kinf, laddle10, lastseen, legit, lock, log, log, luke, lukejrwork, m, man, mcalc, mfaq, monologue, morning, move, murder, nano, night, null, onlineplayers, onlineservers, pacman, peek, pingme, piong, poing, powiedz, praise, pwn, q, realchatlogs, remove, res, resources, rou, roulette, roulette, roulete, rules, (1 more message)
19:14 <GodTodd> #more
19:14 <armabot> GodTodd: roulette, sd, serverdetails, serverinfo, slap, speed, stfu, stone, sty, svn, t, tea, team, tst4, tst5, tstservers, tyskie, uname, unlock, ur, w, weather, where, whereis4p, whereisp4, where are the noobs ?, whoareyou, whoisp4, wikipedia, wild, wp, ww, ¡¡¡, and
19:14 <GodTodd> #help slap
19:14 <armabot> GodTodd: (slap <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo $randomnick slaps $*.".
19:14 <GodTodd> #slap
19:14 <armabot> luke-jr_work slaps .
19:15 <GodTodd> hrmm
19:15 <Seeker> ???
19:15 <Seeker> ok
19:15 <GodTodd> #alias add slap echo $who slaps $1.
19:15 <armabot> GodTodd: The operation succeeded.
19:15 <GodTodd> #slap luke-jr
19:15 <armabot> GodTodd slaps luke-jr.
19:15 <GodTodd> now there is :)
19:15 <Seeker> lol
19:16 <GodTodd> or even better...
19:16 <GodTodd> #alias add slap echo $who slaps $1 for being a raving moron.
19:16 <armabot> GodTodd: The operation succeeded.
19:16 <GodTodd> #slap luke-jr
19:16 <armabot> GodTodd slaps luke-jr for being a raving moron.
19:16 <Seeker> lol
19:16 <Seeker> that works
19:16 <GodTodd> :)
19:17 <GodTodd> #slap ghableska
19:17 <armabot> GodTodd slaps ghableska for being a raving moron.
19:17 <Seeker> wtf....i saw impregnate in that list!!!!
19:17 <GodTodd> yeah
19:17 <Seeker> lol
19:17 <GodTodd> #impregnate luke-jr
19:17 <armabot> /me fertilizes luke-jr
19:17 <Seeker> scary
19:17 <ghableska> #kill GodTodd
19:17 <armabot> GodTodd will die on 08:03 PM, July 06, 2007 GMT due to being stabbed in the eye by ghableska
19:18 <ghableska> #crazylate [slap luke-jr]
19:18 <GodTodd> #luke
19:18 <armabot> stfu baka noob?? RTFM or smth
19:18 <armabot> ghableska: Couldn't talk to server: [Errno socket error] timed out
19:18 <ghableska> eh
19:18 <Seeker> lol
19:18 <Seeker> #denied ghableska
19:19 <ghableska> #crazylate stfu baka noob?? RTFM or smth
19:19 <Seeker> lol
19:19 <armabot> ghableska: noob of baka of stfu? RTFM or smth
19:19 <ghableska> #crazylate [kill luke-jr]
19:19 <armabot> ghableska: Error: Couldn't talk to server: [Errno socket error] timed out
19:19 <ghableska> grrrr
19:19 <GodTodd> #crazylate GodTodd will die on 08:03 PM, July 06, 2007 GMT due to being stabbed in the eye by ghableska
19:19 <armabot> GodTodd: GodTodd will die in 08:03 P.M., of July the 06 of GMT 2007 due to being stabbed in the eye by ghableska
19:20 <Seeker> #murder
19:20 <armabot> Seeker: (murder <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "echo $1 will get murdered by $randomNick on $randomDate because $1 tried to kill one of DrJoeTron's Badmins".
19:20 <GodTodd> haha
19:20 <GodTodd> #murder ghableska
19:20 <armabot> ghableska will get murdered by digitx on Fri Aug 21 08:49:58 1992 because ghableska tried to kill one of DrJoeTron's Badmins
19:20 <ghableska> o_O
19:20 <Seeker> lol
19:20 <GodTodd> #joke
19:20 <armabot> By royal decree, all humor has hereby been expunged from this channel. If you feel you absolutely *have* to be funny please find a channel where people are able to understand jokes.
19:21 <ghableska> #roulette
19:21 <armabot> ghableska: *click*
19:21 <GodTodd> i need to put the joke one on my bot...
19:22 <GodTodd> da we go :)
19:22 <GodTodd> i need to re-find my sports score rss feeds :/
19:23 <Seeker> #weather
19:23 <armabot> Seeker: (weather <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city.
19:24 <Seeker> #weather 21061
19:24 <armabot> Seeker: The current temperature in Baltimore, Maryland is 68.0°F (12:54 PM EDT on August 20, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 60.8°F. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Falling).
19:24 <ghableska> #weather 50265
19:24 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
19:24 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 78.8°F (11:54 AM CDT on August 20, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 69.8°F. Pressure: 29.85 in 1011 hPa (Rising). Flash Flood Watch in effect through Wednesday afternoon...
19:24 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Near Custer and Parker, Plano, Texas is 90.5°F (12:29 PM CDT on August 20, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 66.2°F. Pressure: 31.01 in 1050.0 hPa (Steady).
19:24 <Seeker> hot in TX
19:24 <GodTodd> pretty cool today so far
19:24 <Seeker> lol
19:24 <ghableska> lies
19:25 <Seeker> anything over 70 sux to me
19:25 <GodTodd> last week we were hitting 104
19:25 <Seeker> i like the cold
19:25 <Seeker> ewwww
19:25 <Seeker> #fastfood
19:25 <armabot> Seeker: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “bugfarm” at the moment, sorry.
19:26 <Seeker> im getting some lunch.....bbl
19:26 <GodTodd> have fun :)
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19:32 <MrBougo> #echo
19:32 <armabot> MrBougo: (echo <text>) -- Returns the arguments given it. Uses our standard substitute on the string(s) given to it; $nick (or $who), $randomNick, $randomInt, $botnick, $channel, $user, $host, $today, $now, and $randomDate are all handled appropriately.
19:32 <MrBougo> #echo
19:32 <armabot> MrBougo: (echo <text>) -- Returns the arguments given it. Uses our standard substitute on the string(s) given to it; $nick (or $who), $randomNick, $randomInt, $botnick, $channel, $user, $host, $today, $now, and $randomDate are all handled appropriately.
19:32 <MrBougo> #echo
19:32 <armabot> MrBougo: (echo <text>) -- Returns the arguments given it. Uses our standard substitute on the string(s) given to it; $nick (or $who), $randomNick, $randomInt, $botnick, $channel, $user, $host, $today, $now, and $randomDate are all handled appropriately.
19:33 <MrBougo> #echo
19:33 <armabot> MrBougo: (echo <text>) -- Returns the arguments given it. Uses our standard substitute on the string(s) given to it; $nick (or $who), $randomNick, $randomInt, $botnick, $channel, $user, $host, $today, $now, and $randomDate are all handled appropriately.
19:35 <luke-jr> #murder MrBougo
19:35 <armabot> MrBougo will get murdered by wejp on Sun Jul 25 11:28:20 2010 because MrBougo tried to kill one of DrJoeTron's Badmins
19:35 <MrBougo> :(
19:35 <MrBougo> #help murder
19:35 <armabot> MrBougo: (murder <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "echo $1 will get murdered by $randomNick on $randomDate because $1 tried to kill one of DrJoeTron's Badmins".
19:35 <MrBougo> whats a badmin...
19:35 <luke-jr> bad admin?
19:36 <MrBougo> :(
19:36 <MrBougo> badminton :(
19:48 <Lucifer_arma> Seeker: the ingame commands for arma come from irc
19:48 * Lucifer_arma *
19:48 <luke-jr> MrBougo: you basshole
19:48 <MrBougo> :(
19:48 <Lucifer_arma> so, /me, /msg, etc
19:48 <MrBougo> /admin
19:48 <Seeker> thx....
19:48 <Lucifer_arma> who let the emo kid in here?
19:48 <Lucifer_arma> MrBougo: quit frowning, somebody will find out you're emo!
19:48 <MrBougo> :DDDDD
19:49 <MrBougo> now that wasnt emo
19:49 <Seeker> #murder luke-jr
19:49 <armabot> luke-jr will get murdered by MrBougo on Tue Oct 24 00:14:34 1995 because luke-jr tried to kill one of DrJoeTron's Badmins
19:49 <MrBougo> HAHA
19:49 <MrBougo> pwned
19:49 <MrBougo> ive murdered you when i was 5
19:49 <Seeker> lol....12 years ago
19:52 <GodTodd> shit...i was out of high school by then
19:52 <GodTodd> heh
19:53 <Seeker> senior yera for me
19:53 <Lucifer_arma> my favorite thing to do with my daughter right now is to sing that space cowboy song at her, but I change the words
19:53 <Lucifer_arma> I say "Some people call her the space cowboy" and go from there
19:53 <Seeker> cow girl luci.......
19:53 <GodTodd> yeah...should be cowgirl
19:54 <Lucifer_arma> nah, I only change the pronoun
19:54 <Lucifer_arma> some people call her Maurice!
19:54 <Seeker> lol
19:54 <Lucifer_arma> she hates it, but she laughs when I do it
19:54 <Seeker> are people confused by your dauf=ghter???
19:55 <Lucifer_arma> ? why would she confuse people?
19:55 <luke-jr> #alias add murder echo $1 will get murdered by $randomNick on $randomDate because $1 tried to kill one of $randomNick's $randomNicks
19:55 <armabot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
19:55 <luke-jr> #murder Lucifer_arma
19:55 <armabot> Lucifer_arma will get murdered by noob13 on Tue Sep 11 09:15:24 1984 because Lucifer_arma tried to kill one of BedMan's $randomNicks
19:55 <Seeker> oh.......your just confused
19:55 <GodTodd> you know what i just realized? most of the people in here don't remember when there was a berlin wall :/
19:55 <MrBougo> accumulation bucket gob coagulation half-mouthful heap mass mound petrification pile puddle stack thimbleful tongueful ooze quart bag plate
19:55 <luke-jr> #alias add murder echo $1 will get murdered by $randomNick on $randomDate because $1 tried to kill one of $randomNick's $randomNick-s
19:55 <luke-jr> #murder Lucifer_arma
19:55 <armabot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
19:55 <armabot> Lucifer_arma will get murdered by tronner on Sun Aug 15 08:43:02 2010 because Lucifer_arma tried to kill one of guru3's wejp-s
19:55 <MrBougo> http://supybot.sourceforge.net/docs/plugins/Insult.html
19:55 <MrBougo> xD
19:55 <Lucifer_arma> she has a real gift for figuring out people's self-esteem weaknesses, and she's very good at attacking them
19:56 <Lucifer_arma> she's daddy's little girl, alright!
19:56 <Seeker> lol
19:56 <Lucifer_arma> speaking of people with weak self-esteems, hey luke-jr (hi there!) , talk to Jesus lately?
19:57 <Lucifer_arma> I guess I better eat something too
19:57 * GodTodd pulls out his dick.
19:57 <MrBougo> oO
19:58 * Lucifer_arma gets a hotdog bun
19:58 * Seeker places duct tape over all open orifices
19:58 <GodTodd> hoagie bun*
19:58 <GodTodd> :)
19:58 <Lucifer_arma> oh right, I forgot, use hoagie buns for slim meats
19:58 <GodTodd> haha
19:58 <Lucifer_arma> deli-sliced?
19:58 <Seeker> ouch
19:58 <GodTodd> it may be slim but it's damn short :P
19:59 <Lucifer_arma> I think I'll have something penis-shaped anyway, but it's called a flauta
19:59 <Seeker> a what?
19:59 <Lucifer_arma> a flauta
19:59 <GodTodd> yep...he's a yankee
19:59 <GodTodd> :)
19:59 <Seeker> nvm
19:59 <Lucifer_arma> have you ever noticed that the skinnier the girls are in a given culture, the more penis-shaped foods they have?
20:00 <GodTodd> so....how many penis shaped foods are in ethiopian culture?
20:00 <Seeker> no....im just not a big mexican food guy
20:01 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: you have to assume an abundance of food, and also try to remember that ethiopia isn't in as bad a shape as it was when we were kids
20:01 <GodTodd> i know
20:01 * GodTodd gets out his cane.
20:01 <Seeker> now they arent starving...they just have guns
20:01 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, I think the number of penis-shaped women in a given culture is directly proportional to the number of penis-shaped foods in that culture
20:02 <GodTodd> haha
20:02 <Seeker> lol
20:02 <Lucifer_arma> Seeker: flauta is a shredded meat with some spicy sauce or other wrapped in a flour tortilla and deep-fried
20:02 <Seeker> i saw
20:02 <GodTodd> apply for an FDA research grant and we'll do that study :)
20:03 <Seeker> i know what a taquito <SP?> didnt know about that thing though
20:04 <GodTodd> a flauta is a big taquito with flour tortilla instead of corn
20:04 <Seeker> bingo
20:04 <Seeker> i found it
20:05 * GodTodd made chicken enchiladas last night.
20:05 * Seeker made sausage, peppers & onions lase night
20:06 <Seeker> i cant type to save my life
20:06 <Seeker> lol
20:06 <GodTodd> i would make that more often...but my wife makes me sleep in the living room then :/
20:06 * Lucifer_arma made green chile hamburgers last night
20:06 * Lucifer_arma made barbecue ribs the night before
20:06 <Seeker> mmmm
20:06 * Lucifer_arma made fried chicken the night before
20:06 <Lucifer_arma> y'all yanks don't know what eating is all about
20:07 <Lucifer_arma> that's why you have so many penis-shaped women
20:07 <Seeker> im from south carolina originally
20:07 <P4> how did tronner join with ban set? :)
20:07 <GodTodd> i made ribs the other day
20:07 <Seeker> im broke and cant afford ribs
20:07 <GodTodd> and baked chicken a few days ago
20:07 <GodTodd> ribs is cheapo here
20:07 <GodTodd> 99 cents to 1.29 a lb
20:07 <P4> .part
20:07 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, they are :)
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20:07 <GodTodd> depends on the day and store
20:07 <Lucifer_arma> beef ribs in particular, but we usually do babyback ribs
20:08 <GodTodd> i do country style pork
20:08 * MrBougo made a sanwish on thursday
20:08 <Seeker> tell yall what, Ill put a post on the forum about the present situation with my 2 year old son
20:08 <MrBougo> sandwish
20:08 <MrBougo> nothing very yummy
20:08 <Seeker> he has an uber rare desease
20:08 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmmm
20:08 <Lucifer_arma> uber rare disease?
20:08 <Seeker> and we are really hurtin
20:09 <Seeker> hold on, Ill get you a link
20:09 <Lucifer_arma> :) go get food stamps, that's why we can afford babyback ribs...
20:09 <MrBougo> crap
20:09 <MrBougo> i read "hold on, Ill get you a milk"
20:09 <Lucifer_arma> and yes, if you have really high medical expenses, you can qualify for food stamps and other government assistance even if you make $100k/year
20:10 <MrBougo> lol!
20:10 <Lucifer_arma> do "income - medical expenses", and if the answer qualifies for government assistance, go get it :)
20:10 <Seeker> we are in the process of getting things squared up now
20:10 <Lucifer_arma> good, whenever you're ready, I'll send you the recipe for the marinade I use on my ribs :)
20:10 <GodTodd> holding out on me? :P
20:11 <Lucifer_arma> haha
20:11 <Lucifer_arma> didn't I give it to you already? ;)
20:11 <Lucifer_arma> ah hell, here ya go, it's pretty simple, really
20:11 <GodTodd> not that i know of
20:12 <Lucifer_arma> ok, 2 garlic cloves, 2 slices of fresh ginger root
20:12 <Seeker> well, I cant find the damn link, but the name of the enzyme is "3 hydroxyisobutyric dehydrogenase"
20:12 <Lucifer_arma> mince those and put 'em in a bowl
20:13 <Lucifer_arma> then put in 1 cup stock (usually chicken bullion cubes + water), 1/4 cup soy sauce, 1 tablespoon sugar, and 2 tablespoons sherry
20:13 <Lucifer_arma> that's pretty much it
20:13 <Seeker> it controlls the breakdown of the amino acid valiene, there are only 12 other cases reported around the world to date
20:13 <Lucifer_arma> you can chop up a green onion and toss it in there too, if you like
20:14 <Lucifer_arma> marinate overnight, works best on pork ribs, but works very nicely on beef ribs
20:14 <Lucifer_arma> you really need the green onions to use it on chicken
20:14 <Lucifer_arma> for a whole rack like what you buy at costco, you need to double the recipe
20:14 <Lucifer_arma> when you throw it on the grill, keep the leftover marinade and apply it like a regular barbecue sauce
20:14 <Lucifer_arma> and don't overcook the ribs, they will still dry out if you're not careful :)
20:15 <Lucifer_arma> and if worse comes to worst, you can toss 'em in the oven
20:15 <GodTodd> yeah...i need a good grill
20:15 <GodTodd> the one i have sucks :/
20:15 <MrBougo> bye
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20:16 <Lucifer_arma> holy shit, your kid's a clone! Looks like this is one of the enzymes clones tend to be a little short on
20:16 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: this marinade works fine on my crappy-ass grill
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20:16 <Seeker> ????
20:17 <GodTodd> hmmm...i'll have to try it...
20:17 <Seeker> how many clones do you have
20:17 * Lucifer_arma is considering taking some small portion of his financial aid check and getting a cheap-ass smoker
20:17 <Seeker> build a smoker
20:17 <Seeker> box for your grill
20:17 <Lucifer_arma> you want me to get my kids to smoke?
20:17 <Seeker> lol
20:17 <Seeker> nah...they will do that on their own
20:17 <Lucifer_arma> I've considered building a smoker, but the scraps just aren't available to do it
20:18 <Lucifer_arma> and it's not worth it if I can't do it using scraps
20:18 <Seeker> tru
20:18 <Lucifer_arma> now, someday when I own a house on the moon, sure, I'll build my own custom smoker then
20:18 <Lucifer_arma> but that day is not today!
20:19 <Lucifer_arma> Methylmalonic semialdehyde dehydrogenase deficiency <--- is that it?
20:20 <Seeker> no, "3-Hydroxyisobutyric aciduria" is the name of the desease
20:21 -!- P4 is now known as P4|away
20:21 <Lucifer_arma> http://lib.bioinfo.pl/auth:Loupatty,FJ
20:21 <Lucifer_arma> you could have just google it, google knows about it :)
20:21 <Seeker> i am
20:22 <Lucifer_arma> ah, that link I gave is worthless
20:22 <Seeker> yea
20:22 <Seeker> i know
20:22 <Seeker> i had that one
20:23 <Seeker> http://rarediseases.info.nih.gov/asp/diseases/diseaseinfo.asp?ID=5662 try that one
20:24 <Lucifer_arma> hey, that's the page in the tab I just accidentally closed, thanks :)
20:25 <Seeker> lol
20:25 <Seeker> and your first link was a fair overview of everything we actually know about the desease
20:26 <Seeker> actually to read the pertaining article http://lib.bioinfo.pl/pmid:16466957
20:28 <Seeker> anyway....ill do a little writeup for the forums later tonight. there really isnt much known at this time.
20:29 <Lucifer_arma> so basically, to summarize:
20:29 <Seeker> no cure....
20:29 <Lucifer_arma> it's genetic. It affects his development, but nobody knows exactly why. It may be life-threatening, but nobody knows eactly why.
20:29 <Seeker> wide range of effects
20:29 <Seeker> yup
20:29 <Lucifer_arma> there's this one thing that seems most likely cause, but is it too much in the body, or too little?
20:29 <Lucifer_arma> and that's it, looks like
20:30 <Lucifer_arma> they've got a lot of questions to which the answer is "no"
20:30 <Seeker> yea
20:30 <Seeker> we are soooo frustrated
20:30 <Seeker> we are waiting to hear back from a geneticist in the netherlands
20:30 <Lucifer_arma> just try to take comfort from the fact that without periodic mutations, evolution wouldn't work :)
20:31 <Seeker> lol
20:31 <Lucifer_arma> your kid could be the Next Big Thing :)
20:31 <Seeker> soo true
20:31 <Lucifer_arma> you never know, when he hits puberty he could start spitting ice out of his fingers
20:31 <Seeker> lol
20:32 <Seeker> alright luci....i gotta get SOME work done today
20:32 <Lucifer_arma> ko, me too, actually
20:32 <Seeker> go play with the kids
20:32 <Lucifer_arma> I'm supposed to setup a printer right now
20:32 <Seeker> ok .......thats 30 seconds of your day
20:32 <Seeker> ;)
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20:42 <Lucifer_arma> heh, not quite :)
20:43 <Lucifer_arma> I have to get my laptop to connect to it, and then I have to restrict usage so my kids don't use up all the printer paper the night before I have a paper due
20:43 <Lucifer_arma> because printer paper at 3am is damned expensive!
20:43 <Seeker> lol
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20:54 <GodTodd> is not :P walmart is open :)
20:54 <mkzelda> woooooooooooooooooooooo
20:54 <mkzelda> #weather 27545
20:54 <Lucifer_bed> grrrr
20:54 <Lucifer_bed> this is supposed to be the easy part of setting up the printer :(
20:54 <armabot> mkzelda: The current temperature in Hedingham, Raleigh, North Carolina is 97.7°F (2:59 PM EDT on August 20, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 31%. Dew Point: 62.6°F. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Falling).
20:54 <Lucifer_bed> cooling off finally?
20:54 <Lucifer_bed> #weather 78717
20:54 <armabot> Lucifer_bed: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 90.3°F (1:55 PM CDT on August 20, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 69.8°F. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011.1 hPa (Falling).
20:54 <mkzelda> yeah it feels cool compared to what its been
20:54 <Seeker> #weather 21060
20:55 <armabot> Seeker: The current temperature in Baltimore, Maryland is 69.8°F (2:54 PM EDT on August 20, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 60.8°F. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
20:55 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
20:55 <mkzelda> wow
20:55 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Near Custer and Parker, Plano, Texas is 93.7°F (1:59 PM CDT on August 20, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 68.0°F. Pressure: 31.01 in 1050.0 hPa (Rising).
20:55 <Lucifer_bed> pretty chilly, seeker
20:55 <Seeker> nice
20:55 <Lucifer_bed> why are we still cooler than plano? :/
20:55 <Seeker> i hate the heat
20:55 <mkzelda> its 6 degrees cooler than its been, ill take it
20:55 <mkzelda> the heat index of 115 was absurd
20:55 <GodTodd> austin is supposed to be a good 5 degrees warmer at least :/
20:56 <mkzelda> smells like gasoline everywhere, ppls gas tanks have been swelling too much from heat and leaking
20:56 <Lucifer_bed> looks like Dean isn't even aiming near texas anymore
20:56 <GodTodd> bah...need to make another fucking metallica cd for the boy
20:56 <GodTodd> :/
20:56 <Lucifer_bed> but they're expecting it to reach cat 5 before it hits the mayas
20:56 * Seeker is waiting for that pretty explosion from the swollen gastanks in texas
20:56 <Lucifer_bed> GodTodd: make one using my metallica collection :)
20:56 <mkzelda> im done with house arrest today
20:56 <Lucifer_bed> (it's all covers)
20:56 <mkzelda> just turned in the equipment
20:57 <GodTodd> haha
20:57 <Lucifer_bed> really? so you can finally go outside again?
20:57 <mkzelda> im on probation still until sept 19 but my P.O. says i wont see him again, im done
20:57 <Lucifer_bed> I'll bet you're so white now, people have to wear shades to eat dinner with you
20:57 <mkzelda> yea
20:57 <Seeker> lol
20:57 <mkzelda> pretty much
20:57 <Lucifer_bed> well, long as you don't violate probation :)
20:57 <mkzelda> im using to working at pools every summer
20:57 <mkzelda> so this is whitest ive ever been
20:57 <Lucifer_bed> man, go get a tan or something
20:57 <Lucifer_bed> how the hell can this be the day your house arrest ends and you're *here*?
20:57 <Seeker> 8-)
20:58 <Lucifer_bed> go play in the park or something
20:58 <mkzelda> i just got back from spending all day in the heat
20:58 <mkzelda> heh
20:58 <mkzelda> i took my dogs to the park
20:58 <mkzelda> im ready to sleep actually, i was like a kid on xmas eve last night
20:58 <mkzelda> woke up at midnight and was too excited to sleep
20:58 <Lucifer_bed> haha
20:58 <mkzelda> went back to bed at 2:30, woke up again at 7 too excited
20:58 <Seeker> they make pills for that
20:59 <Lucifer_bed> nah, that wasn't it, the truth is you couldn't sleep without the bracelet on
20:59 <mkzelda> i still had it on then
20:59 <Lucifer_bed> oh yeah?
20:59 <mkzelda> but sleeping will be so much better
20:59 <mkzelda> and sex too
20:59 <Seeker> #smack lucifer_bed
20:59 <mkzelda> trying not to clobber my wifey's face w/ that bulky watch was a task
20:59 <Lucifer_bed> yeah, now she's going to have to actually tie you up
21:00 <mkzelda> my wrist feels like when i got my casts off after breaking my arms
21:00 <mkzelda> its really light
21:00 <mkzelda> it really caused a lot of carpal tunnel in that wrist
21:00 <mkzelda> cant wait for that to pass
21:00 <Lucifer_bed> you could make it a bit heavier by exercising it
21:01 <mkzelda> ill start wearing a watch
21:01 <mkzelda> hehe
21:01 <Lucifer_bed> nooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!
21:01 <mkzelda> i dont think ill ever wear a watch again
21:01 <Lucifer_bed> not wearing a watch means you never have to answer the question "Why do people spend so much of their time wearing digital watches?"
21:02 <Seeker> i havent worn a watch in years
21:02 <Lucifer_bed> alright, I"m going to reboot this computer. I hate that about ubuntu, but I'll bet it fixes it
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21:02 <mkzelda> i havent worn one since i got a cellphone
21:02 <mkzelda> about 6 years ago
21:02 <Lucifer_arma> man, I haven't worn one since high school
21:02 <mkzelda> and now when someone asks for the time i dont have to look weird not looking at my fake watch and diggin in my pocket for my phone
21:03 <Lucifer_arma> periodically I get people asking why there isn't a watch mark on my wrist
21:03 <Lucifer_arma> they couldn't stick a real watch on there?!?!?
21:03 <Lucifer_arma> cheapskates
21:03 <mkzelda> for real, it had the writing on the face
21:03 <mkzelda> like ESP and TIM where the corner buttons on a timex would be
21:03 <Lucifer_arma> heh, when I was at just brakes, this new guy complained that there was no clock in the shop and asked how we tell time
21:03 <Lucifer_arma> I told him we use the sun
21:03 <mkzelda> but it didnt even have a fake watch face, it had a 1800 number
21:03 <Lucifer_arma> little pissant didn't believe me
21:04 <mkzelda> haha
21:04 <Lucifer_arma> so he tested me one day, and using the sun I hit the time within 15 minutes, which is all the accuracy you need
21:04 <Seeker> suns up....time to work
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21:04 <Lucifer_arma> not so good at it any more, though
21:04 <mkzelda> im good at it just being relative to last time i checked
21:04 <Seeker> suns down....time to go home
21:05 <mkzelda> cause i usually see a clock a few times a day
21:05 <Lucifer_arma> Seeker: your winter hours must suck ass
21:05 <Seeker> lol
21:05 <Seeker> winter hours are great......summer sux
21:05 <mkzelda> u dont have to work as much in the winter w/ that system
21:05 <Seeker> damn sun stays up too long
21:05 <mkzelda> man i hate savings time
21:05 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'll go see if the other machine is done booting
21:06 <mkzelda> except that the fall back an hour would land on my birthday weekend every year
21:06 <mkzelda> so i got 25 hrs for my parties
21:06 <Seeker> lol
21:06 <mkzelda> but now that congress changed that
21:06 <Seeker> yea....i go to the bar those nights
21:06 <mkzelda> spent a few billion to do so, to save a few dollars on heating bills
21:06 <mkzelda> yea as soon as it becomes 2 its back to 1
21:06 <mkzelda> i love that
21:06 <Lucifer_arma> that's why bar closing time is 1:59am, not 2am
21:07 <mkzelda> ive been to places that have staged a fake last call for those not paying attention
21:07 <Lucifer_arma> at least here it is, the bars don't stay open another hour
21:07 <mkzelda> oh they do here
21:07 <Seeker> here too
21:07 <Lucifer_arma> but when you work at a place that closes at midnight, it's fun to tease the fuckin' new guys
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21:07 <mkzelda> ive also been to a bar that just changed the clock ahead an hour and 15 mins one night and kicked everyone out
21:07 <Lucifer_arma> "oh yeah, at midnight we roll the clocks back an hour and you have to work, but your timesheet will say "clocked in 5pm, clocked out 12:15am"
21:08 <mkzelda> haha
21:08 <mkzelda> thats yet another reason why dst sux
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21:08 <Seeker> odd
21:08 <mkzelda> from a computer bookkeeping standpoint, or programming standpoint its such a pain
21:08 <Lucifer_arma> what does oppositional defiance disorder have to do with anything?
21:08 <mkzelda> and its something drupal hasnt addressed yet
21:08 <Seeker> im beginning to not like the trillian for irc
21:08 <mkzelda> so i have to change my clocks on all my sites twice a year
21:08 <Lucifer_arma> nah, programming isn't too hard with dst
21:09 <Lucifer_arma> you let glibc worry about it
21:09 <Lucifer_arma> as long as it gives you good timedeltas, you've nothing to wrry about
21:09 <Lucifer_arma> your output may be garbage from a logical standpoint, but the math is fine
21:09 <Lucifer_arma> um, why isn't drupal getting the time from glibc?
21:10 <GodTodd> they're fighting?
21:10 <Lucifer_arma> maybe php is really to blame
21:10 <mkzelda> its a setting
21:10 <mkzelda> in drupal management
21:10 <mkzelda> and it has you pick your time zone
21:11 <Lucifer_arma> I'll bet it's a php limitation, since mediawiki does it too, now that I think about it
21:11 <GodTodd> i've always had better luck picking my nose
21:11 <mkzelda> and its confusing b/c i dont know if im picking EST or EDT
21:11 <mkzelda> i never know if im -5 and -4 or -6 and -5
21:11 <Lucifer_arma> you can pick your timezone, and you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your timezone's nose!
21:11 <GodTodd> you know it :)
21:11 <Lucifer_arma> ok, checking that other machine again
21:12 <mkzelda> i'd fully support 1 international time
21:12 <mkzelda> getting used to working 9-5 being 3-11 would be fine w/ me
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21:14 <mkzelda> whenever those rich guys like branson do their air balloon flight around the world, who wins if someone starts at 16:00 one time zone, and the other starts at 05:00 in a diff timezone but same time.. but they take the same amount of time and land same time?
21:15 <GodTodd> then it's a tie
21:15 <mkzelda> you could say that they took off and landed same relative time, or you could say that the day hadnt progressed as far for the guy starting at 05:00
21:15 <GodTodd> nah...they do relative time then
21:15 <GodTodd> it's how long it takes them
21:15 <GodTodd> regardless of regular clock time
21:16 <mkzelda> nobody has completed it yet afaik
21:17 <mkzelda> so jamaica and antigua got busted up pretty good?
21:17 <mkzelda> im taking a sandals vacation in may, i hope its not all fucked up
21:21 <Lucifer_bed> hmmmmm
21:21 <Lucifer_bed> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
21:22 * Seeker offers lucifer a sledge hammer to "FIX" the computer
21:22 <luke-jr> Lucifer_bed: your wife is that uncomfortable, eh?
21:23 <Lucifer_bed> my wife's at work, idiot
21:23 <Seeker> #smack luke-jr
21:23 <luke-jr> oooh, you're cheating on her?
21:24 <luke-jr> I thought I was on your ignore list, anyway
21:24 <luke-jr> you're not supposed to have a response ;p
21:24 * Lucifer_bed <--------------------------------------------------------------------------
21:24 <Lucifer_bed> ok, printer works
21:24 <Lucifer_bed> apparently I plugged it into the wrong usb port
21:24 <Seeker> oops
21:25 <luke-jr> eh, sex with a printer does sound painful
21:26 <Lucifer_bed> why are you catholics so dirty, anyway?
21:26 <Lucifer_bed> Jesus wouldn't approve of such impurity
21:26 <luke-jr> I'm not the one in bed with a printer
21:26 <Lucifer_bed> and you're going to wind up in hell, and we don't want you there!
21:26 <Seeker> jesus wasnt catholic
21:26 <Lucifer_bed> no, but jesus can see that I'm configuring a printer so I can write papers for school
21:26 <Lucifer_bed> think about it
21:26 <Seeker> lol
21:27 <luke-jr> Seeker: sure He is
21:27 <Seeker> how so?
21:27 <luke-jr> He didn't start the Church just to leave it, duh
21:27 <Seeker> i do believe catholicism started AFTER he died
21:27 <luke-jr> yeah, and He started it
21:27 <Lucifer_bed> yeah, jesus tried to reform the jewish church
21:27 <luke-jr> He rose, remember
21:27 <Lucifer_bed> it was his apostles that started the church after he died
21:28 <Lucifer_bed> he couldn't rise, he was dead, and the only witnesses to his arousal (heh) were hashish smoking ancient psychedelics
21:28 <Seeker> i dont know why i even went to a religous conversation........im agnostic
21:28 <Lucifer_bed> I'd sooner trust Roger Waters to tell me he saw jesus rise from the dead
21:29 <Seeker> woooo hooo
21:29 <Lucifer_bed> or George Lucas when he shows me actually footage
21:29 <Seeker> hello......is there anybody in there?
21:29 <Lucifer_bed> blah, now I've gotta get my laptop to print on this printer :)
21:29 <luke-jr> not Mel Gibson, tho
21:29 <Seeker> trust the drunk jew hater
21:29 <Seeker> sure
21:30 <Lucifer_arma> this is awesome. Come back over here and I can't see luke's side of the conversation
21:30 <Lucifer_arma> so I don't look as smart as I do on the machine in the bedroom
21:30 <Seeker> lol
21:30 <luke-jr> you don't need to hate jews to admit the fact that they're responsible for most of the major wars
21:31 <Seeker> EDIT----- REligion is responsible for most of the major wars
21:31 <Seeker> jot just the jews
21:31 <luke-jr> neoJudaism specifically
21:31 <Seeker> i believe catholics liked to rally behind god for the puropse of war
21:32 <Lucifer_arma> especially when they were killing jews
21:33 <Seeker> and muslums and anyone else that was in their way.............
21:33 <Seeker> mostly for monetary gain and nothing more
21:34 <Seeker> and im going to revise the catholics thing to be christians
21:34 <luke-jr> Seeker: FUD and lies
21:34 <Lucifer_bed> oh yeah, they totally got away from jesus when they politicized religion
21:34 <Seeker> thank you luci
21:35 <Seeker> i still laugh at the poor attempt at separation of church and state........
21:35 <Seeker> here in america at least
21:35 <luke-jr> seperation of church and state is heresy
21:36 <Seeker> heh....its plane impossible
21:36 <Seeker> unless you can strip a person of their beliefs before they are appointed to office
21:37 <Seeker> all their decisions are governed by those beliefs.....weather they deny it or not
21:37 <luke-jr> seperation of church and state is heresy
21:37 <luke-jr> because the Church is above the state
21:37 <Seeker> reppetition is annoying
21:38 <Seeker> and this is where a major fight can break out
21:38 <Seeker> because I have drastically different views on that subject than you do
21:38 <luke-jr> but your views are wrong
21:39 <Seeker> and theres the christin mentality that killed off most of the worlds religions
21:39 <Seeker> via extermination or assimilation
21:40 <Seeker> btw.....most of your religous holidays are based on ancient pagan beliefs and rituals
21:40 <luke-jr> killing you off wouldn't correct your views
21:40 <Seeker> did you knw that
21:40 <luke-jr> nope, they're just stealing the dates for a good purpose
21:40 <luke-jr> to let us Christians celebrate good things without persecution
21:41 <Seeker> lol
21:41 <Seeker> YOU were the persecutors
21:41 <luke-jr> nope
21:41 <Seeker> after the romans adopted christianity , they forced it on everyone
21:42 <Seeker> tell me im wrong
21:42 * Seeker is wrong
21:42 <luke-jr> you are
21:42 <Seeker> ah...i was trying to help ya
21:43 <luke-jr> gtg now, ttyl
21:43 <Seeker> read a little history man..............
21:43 <luke-jr> you should
21:43 <Seeker> its good for the soul
21:44 <luke-jr> historically, the Church has never taught anything wrong
21:44 <Seeker> the church wrote most of history as they wanted
21:44 <Seeker> you gotta dig deeper
21:45 <luke-jr> the Church is also perfect, so you can't get more ideal than that
21:46 <Seeker> LOL.......wheres my trout....i need to smack you around a lil bit
21:47 <GodTodd> #slap luke-jr
21:47 <armabot> GodTodd slaps luke-jr for being a raving moron.
21:47 <GodTodd> :)
21:47 <Seeker> thx god
21:47 <Seeker> lol
21:47 <GodTodd> and seeker has discovered the glory that is luke-jr :)
21:47 <Seeker> kinda fitting you did that concidering the topic'
21:47 <GodTodd> trust me...i've tried to enlighten him on that topic many times :)
21:48 <GodTodd> some people are just too ignorant to learn
21:48 <Seeker> i almost want to say we had this same conversation in a thread on the forums a long time ago
21:48 <GodTodd> probably
21:48 <Seeker> and i was arguing the same points to luke
21:48 <Seeker> dejavu
21:49 <GodTodd> truth be told, i wouldn't have near the problem with luke-jr if he just would accept that others have different beliefs that have just as good a chance at being right
21:50 <Lucifer_arma> man, linux is better than windows because of what I just did
21:50 <Lucifer_arma> the gui wouldn't let me tell it that my printer should be shared, so I hacked a text file and it worked :)
21:51 <Seeker> lol
21:53 <GodTodd> hrmmm....i might actually have another book idea...
21:53 <GodTodd> (and no it's not about luke-jr)
21:53 <GodTodd> heh
22:03 <Seeker> that topic has been covered.............
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22:29 <ghableska> #weather 50266
22:29 <ghableska> #tea
22:29 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 84.6°F (3:33 PM CDT on August 20, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 69.8°F. Pressure: 28.79 in 974.8 hPa (Falling). Flash Flood Watch in effect through Wednesday afternoon...
22:29 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (3/32): ShowHealion, SpinAce, van Nelle
22:37 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
22:37 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Near Custer and Parker, Plano, Texas is 95.4°F (3:43 PM CDT on August 20, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 64.4°F. Pressure: 31.01 in 1050.0 hPa (Falling).
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22:44 <NeoThermic> #weather 93555
22:44 <armabot> NeoThermic: The current temperature in China Lake, California is 96.8°F (12:56 PM PDT on August 20, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 5%. Dew Point: 15.8°F. Pressure: 29.88 in 1012 hPa (Falling).
22:44 <NeoThermic> Winner! :D
22:45 <GodTodd> depends on perspective ;)
22:46 <ghableska> :o
22:46 <GodTodd> #weather 68131
22:46 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Omaha, Nebraska is 86.0°F (2:52 PM CDT on August 20, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 75.2°F. Pressure: 29.70 in 1006 hPa (Falling).
22:47 <GodTodd> #weather 85205
22:47 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Mesa, Arizona is 100.4°F (12:47 PM MST on August 20, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: 66.2°F. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling).
22:47 <GodTodd> #weather 88310
22:47 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Alamogordo, New Mexico is 100.4°F (2:31 PM MDT on August 20, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 22%. Dew Point: 55.4°F. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
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23:00 <Lucifer_arma> kinda warm back home
23:03 <GodTodd> yah it is
23:12 <spidey> #weather 38256
23:12 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 97.2°F (4:18 PM CDT on August 20, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 29%. Dew Point: 59.0°F. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012.4 hPa (Falling).
23:22 <Lucifer_arma> I need some new reading material
23:22 * Lucifer_arma goes to baen to see if they've got anything interesting
23:22 <Lucifer_arma> I suppose I could reread stuff
23:22 <tramshed> you read the wheel of time?
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23:37 <Lucifer_arma> tramshed: yeah, read that whole series
23:37 <Lucifer_arma> found lots of new stuff
23:38 <Lucifer_arma> Dave Weber's got a new one up, Eric Flint, and I do tend to check out books by their collaborators written without collaboration
23:38 <Lucifer_arma> so I snagged a couple of KD Wentwood books
23:38 <Lucifer_arma> 9 files, since 3 of them are reader files, that means 6 books installing right now
23:41 <tramshed> im finishing that series myself
23:42 <tramshed> reading knife of dreams right now
23:47 <spidey> #last --from epsy --with http://
23:47 <armabot> spidey: [20:38:54] <epsy> http://imstealingyour.info/schedule.php
23:47 <spidey> #last --from epsy --with http:// --nolimit
23:48 <armabot> spidey: [20:38:54] <epsy> http://imstealingyour.info/schedule.php
23:54 <GodTodd> cerby: if I fuck my database with a flaccid cock tied to the front of a
23:54 <GodTodd> bulldozer, I don't really care
23:55 <GodTodd> vivid :)
23:55 <ghableska> >_<
23:56 <ghableska> #tea
23:56 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (9/32): cos, Dez, Dr.Iglo, G5, Monkey, SlµQm$tEr, stoner 420, ~Çögöqt~, ¦Ö¦GoAX
23:56 <GodTodd> #coffee
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23:57 <zacariaz> what is it with the new norm settings at ddl?
23:57 <zacariaz> why htey change?
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00:32 <Lucifer_arma> tramshed: that's definitely one of the best series I've read in a long time
00:32 <Lucifer_arma> really gets you into playing freeciv, though ;)
00:35 <tramshed> hah
00:36 <Lucifer_arma> I just put his 1812 book on my pda
00:36 <Lucifer_arma> it's an alternate story of the war of 1812, should be pretty interesting
00:36 <tramshed> im not too into the alternate history ones
00:36 <Lucifer_arma> he does do a lot of americans-patting-themselves-on-the-back, but the premise here is that the indians ally together against the americans
00:37 <tramshed> you ever read "A Handmaids Tale"?
00:37 <tramshed> thats a fucked up book
00:37 <Lucifer_arma> no. Is it by Eric Flint?
00:37 <tramshed> 1984 type shit
00:37 <tramshed> I forget who wrote it
00:41 <Vanhayes> what series was that Lucifer_arma ?
00:41 <tramshed> The Wheel Of Time
00:41 <tramshed> robert jordan
00:41 <tramshed> really good shit
00:41 <tramshed> twelve books in it so, not finished
00:41 <tramshed> so = so far
00:41 <Vanhayes> thought thats what you were talking about, it one of my favorites
00:41 <tramshed> aye, mine too
00:42 <tramshed> I need to finish Knife Of Dreams
00:42 <tramshed> but ive been playing with my new computer
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01:55 <ghableska> #weather 50266
01:55 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 82.4°F (6:58 PM CDT on August 20, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 69.8°F. Pressure: 28.77 in 974.2 hPa (Steady). Flash Flood Watch in effect through Wednesday afternoon...
01:56 <tramshed> #weather 49117
01:56 <armabot> tramshed: The current temperature in Beacher, 10th/Franklin St, Michigan City, Indiana is 73.4°F (7:02 PM CDT on August 20, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 71.6°F. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011.4 hPa (Rising).
01:57 <tramshed> #weather 60606
01:57 <armabot> tramshed: The current temperature in Cabrini Green, Chicago, Illinois is 71.8°F (7:01 PM CDT on August 20, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 68.0°F. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009.0 hPa (Steady).
02:14 <Vanhayes> #weather siant john
02:14 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
02:14 <Vanhayes> er
02:14 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
02:14 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 54°F / 12°C | Humidity: 66% | Pressure: 30.19in / 1022hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h | Updated: 9:00 PM ADT; Tonight - Clearing early this evening. Wind southwest 20 km/h (12 mph) becoming light this evening. Low 6C(43F) except 2C(36F) in low lying areas. Risk of frost.; Tuesday - Sunny. High 21C(70F). UV index 6 or high. (1 more message)
02:14 <Vanhayes> #more
02:14 <armabot> Vanhayes: Tuesday night clear. Wind southwest 20 km/h (12 mph) becoming light in the evening. Low 10C(50F).; Wednesday - Sunny. High 22C(72F).;
02:19 <tramshed> #weather balls
02:19 <armabot> tramshed: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
02:19 <tramshed> the server has no balls!
02:28 <Vanhayes> #weather dildo
02:28 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
02:28 <Vanhayes> #weather dildo, Newfoundland
02:28 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
02:28 <Vanhayes> come on, I know it exists
02:44 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, ping
02:46 <ghableska> okaaay Vanhayes
02:46 <Vanhayes> ive been there its hilarious
02:46 <ghableska> mhmm
02:47 <Vanhayes> http://maps.google.ca/maps?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&tab=wl&q= Proof!
02:49 <ghableska> ok, ok
02:54 <ghableska> grr, one more day of summer vacation :(
02:57 <Vanhayes> really you go back wednseday?
02:57 <ghableska> yes
02:58 <Vanhayes> weird, why the middle of the week?
02:58 <ghableska> no idea
02:58 <ghableska> the last day of school was a monday...
02:58 <ghableska> o_O
02:58 <Vanhayes> that make no sense at all, they are messing eith your heads
02:59 <Vanhayes> with*
03:00 <Vanhayes> we ( canadian highschoolers that is, not me any longer ) go back the first tuesday of the first full week of september
03:00 <Vanhayes> the first monday of that week is a holiday
03:01 <Vanhayes> i forget which one though
03:01 <ghableska> hmm
03:01 <Vanhayes> ah, labour day
03:01 <Vanhayes> the 3rd
03:02 <Vanhayes> so high school starts the 4th of sept
03:02 <ghableska> ah
03:02 * ghableska shakes fist at the american educational system
03:03 <Vanhayes> really, that makes no sense, why would you have to come back for one day after the weekend at the end of the year
03:04 <ghableska> well, we had a few snow days, so the school calendar moved back
03:04 <spidey> i've never once
03:04 <spidey> been to school on the last day
03:04 <Vanhayes> ha, glad we dont do that here, or id still be in school
03:05 <ghableska> haha
03:05 <spidey> not since i was in preschool
03:05 <Vanhayes> I havent since grade 5, well not including exams every year
03:05 <spidey> i used to skip my last exam day
03:05 <Vanhayes> though I think the last 2 years I didnt have one on friday
03:05 <spidey> and still pass the class
03:06 <Vanhayes> well I usually skip the class and go to the exam and still pass
03:06 <ghableska> heh
03:06 <ghableska> brb
03:07 <Vanhayes> one year I missed 56 days in one semester becasue the teachers went on this work to rule thing, so we only had 50 minute classes and 2 hour lunches and no one took attendence
03:07 <spidey> haha
03:07 <Vanhayes> thats the year i failed half the courses
03:09 <Vanhayes> spidey: did you graduate this year or is it going to take longer now?
03:11 <ghableska> 56 days, wtf
03:12 <Vanhayes> ya it was pretty fun, I still passed 2 courses too
03:12 <Vanhayes> 2 of 5, not sure how many USA takes in a semester
03:14 <ghableska> spidey: what grade are you in?
03:14 <ghableska> 12th?
03:14 <spidey> 11
03:14 <spidey> 25 books and i'll be in 12th
03:14 <ghableska> haha
03:14 <spidey> 25 after that, i'll be done
03:14 <Vanhayes> how long per book?
03:14 <spidey> dude
03:14 <spidey> i can do a book a hour
03:14 <spidey> i'm just lazy
03:15 <spidey> they're only 30 pages
03:15 <ghableska> ...
03:15 <Vanhayes> and you get a full high school diploma?
03:15 <spidey> the thing is
03:15 <spidey> i failed, so i'm on the accel thingy
03:16 <spidey> to get me back in my right grade, faster
03:16 <spidey> i took the tests
03:16 <spidey> i know the stuff, so they're giving me half the books
03:16 <spidey> in 12th grade i'll have around 46-50 books
03:16 <spidey> which is what you are supposed to get for each year
03:18 <Vanhayes> so when you finish the whole thing what courses do you get credited with?
03:19 <spidey> i get a full credit in the courses i took
03:19 <spidey> so
03:19 <spidey> if i take algebra 1/2
03:19 <spidey> i get a credit for it
03:19 <spidey> english? if i pass i get a full credit for it
03:20 <Vanhayes> hmm maybe i need to understand USA education system better
03:21 <Vanhayes> How many credits do you need to pass high school?
03:21 <spidey> this is more of a private homeschool
03:21 <spidey> not sure
03:21 <Vanhayes> ghableska: How many credits do you need to pass high school?
03:22 <ghableska> 44 credits minimum
03:22 <ghableska> they're changing it to 48 though
03:23 <ghableska> you need to earn a certain number of credits each year too...
03:23 <Vanhayes> er, how many corses do you take a year?
03:23 <Vanhayes> courses*
03:23 <spidey> 8~
03:23 <ghableska> well, you have 8 periods, but you don't necessarily have to fill them up
03:24 <ghableska> 8 periods a day
03:24 <Vanhayes> uh 8 times 4 is 32....
03:24 <ghableska> err
03:24 <Vanhayes> unless you take more than 4 years of highschool?
03:24 <Vanhayes> or is it 8 per semester?
03:24 <spidey> 8-12
03:24 <spidey> is highschool
03:25 <ghableska> no
03:25 <ghableska> 9-12
03:25 <Vanhayes> ok, same here
03:25 <spidey> not in my old school
03:25 <ghableska> 7th and 8th is junior high
03:25 <spidey> well
03:25 <Vanhayes> 6th 7th 8th is middle school here
03:25 <spidey> jr high and high was in hte same building
03:25 <spidey> 1-4 = elementry
03:25 <spidey> 5-6 = middle
03:25 <ghableska> Vanhayes: I think it's per semester
03:25 <spidey> 7-8 jrhigh 9-12 = high
03:25 <Vanhayes> ah ok
03:26 <spidey> yes
03:26 <spidey> we're retarded
03:26 <Vanhayes> 3-5 is elementry k-2 is primary
03:26 <spidey> k is kindergarden
03:26 <Vanhayes> we only need 17 out of a possible 21 here
03:26 <spidey> lucky
03:27 <ghableska> Vanhayes: http://www.wdm.k12.ia.us/valley/counseling/grades.htm
03:27 <ghableska> that might clear things up
03:27 <Vanhayes> 10 courses per year 5 a semester, courses dont count as credits untill grade 10( you can take one elective course) and all your 11 and 12 count
03:28 <Vanhayes> 9 and 10 are the basics that are prerequisites for the real courses
03:28 <ghableska> here, everything before 9th is like that
03:29 <Vanhayes> and we uses percentages not alphebetical grades
03:29 <Vanhayes> use*
03:30 <Vanhayes> the passsing grade was 50% the year before I went into highschool then they bunped it up to 60%
03:30 <ghableska> :o
03:30 <ghableska> that's lenient
03:31 <Vanhayes> and the teachers arent alowed to give you a 59%, its too cruel
03:31 <Vanhayes> they either bump you up to 60 if they like you or down to 57 if they dont
03:31 <Vanhayes> er 58*
03:32 <ghableska> haha
03:33 <spidey> w
03:33 <spidey> t
03:33 <spidey> f
03:33 <spidey> 60%?
03:33 <spidey> lucky bastards
03:33 <spidey> we need a 70, atleast ;/
03:34 <Vanhayes> meh, our school system is pretty flawed
03:34 <Vanhayes> I learned in grade 4 how to coast
03:34 <ghableska> heh
03:34 <ghableska> we get to opt out of two semester exams of our choice
03:35 <Vanhayes> since then I got almost always 60ish grades or higher without doing any homework, and missing at least 15 days
03:35 <spidey> shit
03:35 <spidey> i used to miss 20-30 days a year
03:35 <spidey> heh
03:36 <spidey> i used to do good to
03:36 <Vanhayes> we get exemptions from 1 per semester if you miss 3 or less days
03:36 <spidey> what fucked me up is when i decided, i could miss 20-30 days and didn't need to do homework
03:36 <Vanhayes> never was eligible for one of those
03:36 <spidey> then i started failing =/
03:37 <Vanhayes> I never did any homework or studying at all in school, not since grade 4
03:38 <ghableska> :d
03:39 <Vanhayes> and th only reason I had to go back a year is because I couldnt control my skipping, when it is so nice out and the teachers dont take atendance, its like they are saying dont come
03:40 <spidey> lol
03:40 <ghableska> we have a separate building for 9th graders o_O
03:41 <Vanhayes> how many people go to your school?
03:42 <ghableska> to the main building?
03:42 <ghableska> or 9-12?
03:42 <Vanhayes> uh lets go with 9-12
03:43 <ghableska> probably 2300 altogether
03:43 <ghableska> 1900 in the 10-12 building
03:43 <Vanhayes> wow
03:43 <ghableska> #w Valley High School
03:43 <armabot> ghableska: Search took 0.14 seconds: Hutt Valley High School - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutt_Valley_High_School>; Apple Valley High School - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Valley_High_School>; Valley High School (Des Moines, Iowa) - Wikipedia, the free ...: (3 more messages)
03:44 <ghableska> wow
03:44 <ghableska> we have an entry on Wikipedia
03:44 <ghableska> #more
03:44 <armabot> ghableska: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valley_High_School_(Des_Moines,_Iowa)>; El Cajon Valley High School - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Cajon_Valley_High_School>; Neuqua Valley High School - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuqua_Valley_High_School>; Passaic Valley Regional High School - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: (2 more messages)
03:44 <spidey> who need geometry? -.-
03:44 <ghableska> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valley_High_School_%28Iowa%29
03:44 <Vanhayes> whats a mock trial?
03:44 <ghableska> spidey: algebra is way more fun than geometry
03:45 <Vanhayes> er wait is that like court?
03:45 <ghableska> MOCK court
03:45 <Vanhayes> I think we had that too
03:45 <ghableska> it's a competition sort of thing
03:45 <ghableska> we have a model United Nations team too
03:46 <Vanhayes> heh, we have 500-600 people in our school, I doubt we would have enough for one mock trial if it wasnt forced in law class
03:46 <ghableska> ah
03:46 <ghableska> we have a debate class, and it's required that you attend tournaments and stuff
03:47 <Vanhayes> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hampton_new_brunswick <-- thats my town
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03:48 <spidey> omg
03:48 <ghableska> ?
03:48 <spidey> wtf is this shit
03:48 <spidey> they give me a triangle type thing
03:48 <Vanhayes> hmm I think we might have had a debate club that came in 8th for something, says in the talk page anyway
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03:48 <spidey> that looks like a bow and arrow with a up/down line in the center
03:48 <spidey> and tell me to find the ray
03:48 <spidey> fuck you!
03:49 <Vanhayes> what is a ray? radius?
03:49 <spidey> i don't know
03:49 <spidey> they don't tell me
03:49 <spidey> they just say "ray"
03:50 <Vanhayes> ha
03:50 <Vanhayes> maybe some guy called ray wrote the book
03:50 <ghableska> it's a it's a line that has one endpoint
03:50 <ghableska> er
03:50 <ghableska> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_%28mathematics%29#Ray
03:52 <Vanhayes> hmm google maps should allow you to choose a route that doesnt cross into another country
03:53 <ghableska> ?
03:54 <Vanhayes> http://maps.google.ca/maps?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&tab=wl&q= < thats the quickest way to get out west apparently
03:55 <ghableska> umm, the url doesn't really help...
03:55 <Vanhayes> hmm, that link doesnt seem to load a route for me...
03:55 <Vanhayes> type in from Hampton, NB to Calgary, AL
03:56 <Vanhayes> its almost all the way there in the US
03:57 <ghableska> ok
03:57 <ghableska> hahaha
03:58 <Vanhayes> its a 2 day 1 hour trip, thats I spend about 2 hours in canada
03:58 <Vanhayes> and thats driving straight there
03:58 <ghableska> you can customise your trip though...
03:59 <ghableska> drag the blue line
03:59 <Vanhayes> ya, im not sure what way we want to go though
03:59 <Vanhayes> I wouldnt mind seeing some of the states, plus its faster
03:59 <ghableska> heh
03:59 <Vanhayes> go that way getting there, then drive back through canada
04:00 <ghableska> drive through Des Moines :P
04:00 <ghableska> how expensive is flying?
04:00 <Vanhayes> not sure, but we need the car out there to get to work
04:00 <Vanhayes> I think its about 350 a person one way
04:01 <ghableska> ah
04:02 <Vanhayes> hmm
04:02 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
04:02 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 46°F / 8°C | Humidity: 81% | Pressure: 30.21in / 1023hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 2mph / 4km/h | Updated: 11:00 PM ADT; Tonight - Clearing early this evening. Wind southwest 20 km/h (12 mph) becoming light this evening. Low 6C(43F) except 2C(36F) in low lying areas. Risk of frost.; Tuesday - Sunny. High 21C(70F). UV index 6 or high. (1 more message)
04:02 <Vanhayes> #weather cleveland
04:02 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
04:02 <Vanhayes> #weather cleveland, ohio
04:02 <armabot> Vanhayes: The current temperature in Cleveland Burke, Ohio is 68.0°F (10:00 PM EDT on August 20, 2007). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 64.4°F. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
04:03 <Vanhayes> #weather calgary
04:03 <armabot> Vanhayes: The current temperature in Calgary, Alberta is 62.6°F (8:00 PM MDT on August 20, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 37.4°F. Pressure: 29.76 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
04:03 <ghableska> #weather 50266
04:03 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 79.0°F (9:04 PM CDT on August 20, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 69.8°F. Pressure: 28.78 in 974.5 hPa (Falling). Flash Flood Watch in effect through Wednesday afternoon...
04:03 <Vanhayes> heh
04:03 <ghableska> aw
04:03 <ghableska> only a month or so till autumn :D
04:04 <Vanhayes> almost a month exaxtly I think
04:04 <Vanhayes> exactly*
04:04 <ghableska> autumn is the best season, by far
04:05 <Vanhayes> I like autumn the least
04:05 <ghableska> haha, why?
04:05 <Vanhayes> it goes autmn spring winter/summer
04:05 <ghableska> o_O
04:05 <Vanhayes> in the summer I like winter in the winter I like summer
04:05 <ghableska> so in autumn you like spring?
04:06 <Vanhayes> no I hate autumn in autumn, I like spring in spring
04:06 <Vanhayes> autumn sucks
04:06 <ghableska> oh
04:06 <ghableska> lies
04:06 <ghableska> spring sucks
04:06 <ghableska> it never stops raining
04:06 <Vanhayes> I like winter and summer equally but around the end of each I like the other better
04:07 <ghableska> the ground is perpetually squishy
04:07 <Vanhayes> its a nice change from the snow
04:07 <spidey> mkzelda,
04:07 <spidey> why you keep joining/leaving ts? :p
04:07 <ghableska> well, my birthday is in autumn :p
04:07 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: pong
04:07 <Vanhayes> mine too
04:08 <ghableska> ...
04:08 <Lucifer_arma> my school always started in the middle of the week
04:08 <Vanhayes> sept 30 and I can buy booze anywhere in canada
04:08 <Lucifer_arma> but now it starts next monday
04:08 <Lucifer_arma> kids too
04:08 <Vanhayes> I think uni students start next monday here too
04:08 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, do you know how to redirect with iptables?
04:08 <Lucifer_arma> no, but google does
04:08 <Lucifer_arma> man iptables does too :)
04:09 <spidey> hm
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04:14 * ghableska yawns
04:15 * GodTodd snway.
04:16 * ghableska ddoTdoG spals
04:17 * GodTodd notes that didn't really work out ;)
04:17 <ghableska> bah
04:18 <GodTodd> .akselbahg spals ddoTdoG *
04:18 -!- ghableska is now known as akselbahg
04:18 <GodTodd> #slap luke-jr
04:18 <armabot> GodTodd slaps luke-jr for being a raving moron.
04:19 <GodTodd> #slap luke-jr_work
04:19 <armabot> GodTodd slaps luke-jr_work for being a raving moron.
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04:33 <quarg> i dont suppose that z man is out there?
04:38 <Lucifer_arma> I'm sure he's out there somewhere, somewhere, somewhere
04:39 <quarg> tlusifer
04:39 <quarg> you know maping?
04:39 <quarg> for tron
04:40 <quarg> lol thats should be lucifer
04:41 <Lucifer_arma> tab completion is a wonderful gift to all of mankind
04:41 <luke-jr> שּ* ddoTdoG spals rJ-ekuL.שּשּשּשּשּשּשּשּשּשּשּשּשּשּשּשּשּשּשּשּשּשּשּ
04:42 <quarg> mm tab completion?
04:42 <quarg> o and luke the beta section is down
04:42 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
04:42 <quarg> cant go to the resource page
04:42 <Lucifer_arma> type "luc<tab>" and see what comes up
04:43 <quarg> Lucifer_arma: hi
04:43 <quarg> o i see
04:43 <quarg> im not an irc user
04:44 <quarg> ok so im making a sumo map with multiple zones for each player
04:44 <quarg> they seem to assign all over the map and not in the position of the players
04:44 <quarg> i did assign them positions
04:45 <quarg> and is there a way to make certain zones idle till touched?
04:45 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know the answer to the question you asked, but it does not match the buildup you gave
04:46 <Lucifer_arma> I guess I just need to wait and see if gcaldaemon runs in the cronjob now
04:46 <quarg> um ok?
04:47 <quarg> your scring me:)
04:47 <Lucifer_arma> scring?
04:47 <Lucifer_arma> #dict scring
04:47 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: No definition for "scring" could be found.
04:47 <luke-jr> quarg: define down
04:47 <quarg> scarering
04:47 <Lucifer_arma> #google spell scring
04:47 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: spring
04:47 <Lucifer_arma> scaring you? mmm?
04:47 * Lucifer_arma growls
04:48 <quarg> either i cnat read or you make no sence
04:48 <Lucifer_arma> ok, 7 minutes and the thing should run, and then we shall see if it all works
04:48 * GodTodd shakes
04:48 * Lucifer_arma glares at GodTodd (hi there!)
04:48 * GodTodd glares back
04:48 <Lucifer_arma> hey godtodd, here's a hint, don't try to run gcaldaemon from a udev rule
04:48 <Lucifer_arma> kpilot will finish syncing before gcaldaemon does
04:48 <GodTodd> i'm not christian...you can't scare me :P
04:48 <GodTodd> ummm..ok...wasn't planning on it ;)
04:49 <luke-jr> quarg: define down
04:49 <quarg> is there a full command list including all fort and ctf ?
04:49 <quarg> um it doesnt seem to load
04:50 <quarg> one sec
04:50 <GodTodd> ok...will my secondary ide hdd be adversely affected sharing wise when i exorcise the kitchen server of windows and put ubuntu SE on it?
04:50 <quarg> mm ok it seems to be working now
04:51 * GodTodd points out to quarg that that is luke-jr's way of "fixing" something and trying to make you think it wasn't broke nin the first place.
04:52 <GodTodd> broken in*
04:52 <quarg> so i thought but didnt want to say
04:52 * GodTodd wanted to say :)
04:52 <luke-jr> oddly enough, it's still broken for me
04:52 <GodTodd> not odd to me
04:53 <quarg> you shouldnt spill your milk on the server
04:53 <luke-jr> nor edit DNS zones while sleeping
04:54 <GodTodd> nor try to fix computers
04:57 * Lucifer_arma points out you can't just append "wise" and make any word an adjective
04:57 <Lucifer_arma> think about it, you could have "luke-jrwise" then, and those two words just don't go together
05:10 <akselbahg> #night
05:10 <armabot> Good night akselbahg!
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05:14 <GodTodd> okay, Mr. EEnglish, will my computer's ability to share the secondary ide hdd inside its belly with windows be hindered by the install of ubuntu SE in the place of windows xp? this is assuming that the configuration of samba goes according to plan and as flawlessly as humanly possible...
05:15 <GodTodd> :P
05:17 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: unlikely
05:17 <Lucifer_arma> #eightball what's the answer to Godtodd's question?
05:17 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: No chance.
05:17 <Lucifer_arma> sorry
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> btw, English only has 1 E in it
05:25 <GodTodd> not when it's online...then it's E-English
05:25 <GodTodd> :)
05:35 <GodTodd> one other thing, Lucifer_arma....do you run a scanner?
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: you mean like scan papers?
05:51 <GodTodd> yeah
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> I have one, and it works, mostly, but I haven't really gotten it all up and running
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> quite the contrary, I've just been stacking shit on it
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> why do you ask?
05:51 <GodTodd> haha so do we...but we still use it :/
05:52 <GodTodd> i just was wondering if ubuntu was good at recognizing it
05:52 <GodTodd> i'm assuming so since it sees it as a printer
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> that mostly depends on the scanner, actually
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> it should recognize mine, but mine's an all-in-one dealie that has a printer and a scanner in it, and I have to configure it for each use
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> not for each use of the machine, I mean once for the scanner and once for the printer
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> but I don't use the printer function because it's just a shitty inkjet
05:53 <GodTodd> yeah ours is an all in one
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> and I really hate inkjets
05:53 <GodTodd> ours prints well
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> mine's an epson, and last time I had it plugged in was under Mandriva
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> it recognized the printer and the scanner, but I had to do a little extra configuration to make the scanner work for some reason
05:55 <GodTodd> hmmm so not really a big worry then
05:55 <GodTodd> :)
05:55 <Lucifer_arma> no, not really. :)
05:55 <Lucifer_arma> worth testing on your existing ubuntu installation if you're worried about it, though
05:56 <Lucifer_arma> when I setup my printer earlier, I found it very easy to set it up to print locally, but I had to tweak the cups config file directly to get it to share over the network
05:56 <Lucifer_arma> I see why you like ktorrent, btw
05:56 <GodTodd> why's that? :)
05:56 <Lucifer_arma> it's what kubuntu installed here, so it's what I've got running right now and it's very nice compared to the standard bittorrent client
05:56 <GodTodd> yeah...it's not bad really
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> I found a bunch of cds I'd burned a long time ago when I was cleaning the garage, and I was cleaning them and testing them
05:57 <GodTodd> probably the best one i've used on either platform
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> and my labyrinth disc was totally borked, big nasty gouges in it
05:57 <GodTodd> :/
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> so I went over to spidey's home to see what I could find, and found it, and had ktorrent installed , so it's working right now
05:57 <GodTodd> heh
05:58 <Lucifer_arma> got a download running on all of red dwarf. I hope they're good quality. ;)
05:58 <GodTodd> they're usually not bad
05:58 <spidey> GodTodd, my home?
05:59 <GodTodd> spidey: not me :P
05:59 <spidey> er
05:59 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, my home?
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> ew, that was a very silent but very smelly fart
05:59 <GodTodd> them's the best :) they sneak up on people and share the glory :)
06:00 <GodTodd> sometimes with the waft factor low enough you can let one in an aisle of a store and be a couple of aisles away before you hear the gagging
06:01 * GodTodd farts for sport. :)
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> I always try to hold my farts in the store for when I'm in the checkout line
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> worst that happens is people look around uncomfortably
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> best is I get to be next :)
06:01 <GodTodd> haha
06:02 <GodTodd> best place for the loud ones is in a library
06:02 <Lucifer_arma> it also has the added benefit of distracting the kids from the candy by the registers, but they don't really worry about that stuff anyway (because they know I won't buy it--ever)
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> at work I try to time them so they come out near the table of shitty people, because there's always one group of kids that's really shitty
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> either their attitude is bad, or they just don't get physics and keep the lab occupied until the cops come around to lock up
06:04 <GodTodd> some nights my farts could close down a bar
06:04 <GodTodd> although i have yet to try and let a good wet one in line at the airport
06:04 <GodTodd> that could be fun
06:04 <GodTodd> i'm sure i'd avoid a body cavity search :)
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> my fucking calendar is fucked up again
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> this is starting to piss me off
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> really
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> starting to piss me off
06:08 <GodTodd> what's up with it?
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> timezone problems
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> on google, it's set to central, but when created I accidentally set it to UTC
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> so when it was set in UTC, I created all the events in it at their scheduled times in central time
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> then I realized my fuckup when I got gcaldaemon to sync and all the times were wrong
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> fixed the calendar, but had to delete all the events and recreate them (my fall schedule)
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> then it was fixed, and I had a good sync to my pda
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> now they're all fucked up again, like the calendar is still stuck on utc
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> I think I have to delete the calendar and create a new one in its place
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> there's a reason all of google's services are marked beta :/
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.weather.com/maps/news/atlstorm4/deansatellitelightning_large.html
06:16 <Lucifer_arma> according to the dean satellite, the yucatan peninsula is already getting whacked
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06:50 <Lucifer_arma> this isn't fucking working :(
06:50 * Lucifer_arma is about ready to just face the facts that google calendar really is still a beta app
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I'm going to start writing a book of my own now
06:50 <GodTodd> fiction or non?
06:51 <luke-jr> he only knows fiction
06:51 <luke-jr> duh
06:59 <GodTodd> so it's based on your beliefs, luke-jr?
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07:03 <Lucifer_arma_> eek, what the hell happened?
07:03 <Lucifer_arma_> fiction
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07:04 <Lucifer_arma> I've got two alien invasion stories I want to tell, because they'll be fun to tell :)
07:05 <GodTodd> i'm currently outlining a second book
07:05 <GodTodd> if i do it right, it's gonna rock :)
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> then don't do it wrong :)
07:06 <GodTodd> trying not to ;)
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> I want to take a slightly different approach, I want the alien race to use sublight travel and cryogenics to get to earth with the first wave
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> for one story, anyway, and the budding private space industry forms into a global space navy to fight them
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> the other one is a standard surface invasion, but the story revolves around a group of guerrillas in central texas
07:10 <GodTodd> heh
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> the problem with the second story is making it truly believable
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> I don't want to dumb down the aliens, so I have to hobble them some other way
07:10 <GodTodd> i need to work on my fantasy novel too...i think fantasy is going to be huge huge huge again fairly soon
07:11 <GodTodd> disease is always good :)
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> well, I was thinking several things
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> first, we're the first technologically advanced people they've encountered. Others they've conquered may have had gunpowder, but that was it
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> second, no FTL, meaning their logistics train is already sent and the lead time on new supplies is a loooong time
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> have to think about that some more, because it's entirely possible the lead time is something like 10 years minimum, which is a tad unreasonable scale to conduct a war
07:13 <GodTodd> truly
07:14 <Lucifer_arma> but stretching out their logistics train has some promise, and is believable if they don't know how advanced we really are, which lets me play on the theme that we should already be colonizing space at our current tech level
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> and third, their tech level for conducting surface war isn't too far advanced compared to our own
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> maybe give them shortages in metals so they can build ships, but not a lot of armor
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07:18 <Lucifer_arma> could even make them not oxygen breathers, giving them an extra burden fighting here
07:18 <Lucifer_arma> but smart, that's what I want, smart aliens. I'm kinda tired of reading about dumb aliens invading earth and losing
07:18 <Lucifer_arma> I want to read about smart aliens invading and losing :)
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> but the focus on guerrillas will let me explore terrorism-related themes
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I think the surface war is more interesting
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> end the book and leave room to move the war into the inner solar system
07:22 <GodTodd> heh
07:22 <GodTodd> hrmm...is ubuntu server supposed to boot into a gui?
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> well, see, I want to explore tactics in solar orbit
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> no, ubuntu server doesn't even install a gui
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> that's why it fits into 500MB :)
07:23 <GodTodd> hrmm
07:24 <GodTodd> this is hanging at running local boot scripts...does that take a while first time?
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> is it booting the cd or an installed os?
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> the cd takes awhile to run, for some reason
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> but the installed os should boot in seconds
07:24 <GodTodd> it said the base system is installed
07:24 <GodTodd> took the cd out and rebooted
07:25 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, I don't remember the first boot after installing
07:25 <Lucifer_arma> best is to let it run for awhile and see what happens :)
07:25 <GodTodd> that's what i'm doing :/
07:26 <GodTodd> it's possible, i'm assuming, to install a gui once i figure out how to get the wireless card working, right?
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, but if you were going to do that, why not just install the desktop os?
07:26 <GodTodd> well...it's pretty moot anyways since i have to figure out how to get the wireless working from term ;)
07:29 <GodTodd> grrr still hanging :/
07:37 <Lucifer_arma> aha, I've got it :)
07:37 <Lucifer_arma> why are we so arrogant as to presume that any alien who attacks is going to do so with the support of their population?
07:37 <Lucifer_arma> what if the whole Earth is Iraq and the aliens are run by bushie?
07:45 <GodTodd> grrrrr
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> still hanging?
07:54 <GodTodd> it was...i hit enter and got a login prompt
07:54 <GodTodd> trying to get the wireless working now
07:54 <GodTodd> so i can get it on the network
08:34 <GodTodd> well...kubuntu finds everything fine
08:34 <GodTodd> :/
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09:34 <spidey> argh
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10:46 <kidanger> What patch I must use ? pigsty-061021.zip or pigsty-061021-ljr2.patch.bz2 ?
10:46 <mixnetwork> eddie are you there?
10:52 <kidanger> What patch works with armagetronad-0.2.8.2.1.src.tar.bz2 ?
10:53 <eddiefantastic> hi mixnetwork
10:55 <eddiefantastic> kidanger: they work with the 0.2.8.2 svn repo, not sure they work with that source
11:03 <kidanger> oh
11:04 <kidanger> I must do same that http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Sty ?
11:04 <mixnetwork> oh hi
11:04 <mixnetwork> there now?
11:05 <mixnetwork> wrote you a PN over the message board
11:05 <mixnetwork> i put there the main thing in, so you can better understand what i would like to have
11:06 <mixnetwork> i hope thats possible in a simple way ;)
11:07 <mixnetwork> I donn't want you to have a lot of work and time for that :)
11:08 <mixnetwork> eddie? there? or gone again? :)
11:09 <eddiefantastic> hi mixnetwork, I'm here, reading your pm
11:11 <eddiefantastic> you need to change these lines on ladder.php:
11:11 <eddiefantastic> $server="wildfort";
11:11 <eddiefantastic> $host="mysql_host";
11:11 <eddiefantastic> $user="mysql_user";
11:11 <eddiefantastic> $pw="mysql_pass";
11:11 <eddiefantastic> $db="mysql_db";
11:11 <mixnetwork> ok
11:11 <mixnetwork> i did that already
11:12 <eddiefantastic> then: cat /path/to/ladderlog.txt | path/to/ladder.php
11:12 <eddiefantastic> will do a one off hit
11:13 <mixnetwork> where can i find that?
11:13 <eddiefantastic> should populate the database with the data
11:13 <eddiefantastic> that is the command
11:13 <kidanger> eddiefantastic: I have some error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34510/
11:13 <mixnetwork> sry, donn't understand
11:14 <eddiefantastic> cat /path/to/ladderlog.txt | path/to/ladder.php
11:14 <eddiefantastic> kiddanger, you have the wrong source there
11:14 <eddiefantastic> I think the wiki may be incorrect
11:14 <kidanger> arph
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11:15 <eddiefantastic> kidanger: I think someone uploaded a prepatched version somewhere on the forums
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11:16 <mixnetwork> like this?
11:16 <mixnetwork> cat /var/games/armagetronad-dedicated/var | /srv/www/vhosts/prefer.de/subdomains/spacezone/httpdocs/space
11:17 <eddiefantastic> cat /var/games/armagetronad-dedicated/var/ladderlog.txt | /home/me/ladder.php
11:17 <eddiefantastic> more like that
11:17 <eddiefantastic> make sure ladder.php is excecutable
11:18 <kidanger> heuu I must Compile ? make a deb ?
11:18 <eddiefantastic> wait up kidanger, I will give you a source
11:18 <kidanger> http://flynns.servegame.org/armagetronad-0.2.8_svn04122007.pigsty_ljr3.tar.gz ?
11:19 <eddiefantastic> that looks about right
11:20 <eddiefantastic> yes, you need to compile it
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11:20 <kidanger> unzip before ? ^^
11:20 <eddiefantastic> yep
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11:22 <mixnetwork> hmm, i get no database selected
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11:22 <eddiefantastic> $db="mysql_db";
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11:22 <eddiefantastic> did you set that?
11:23 <mixnetwork> $db="armagetron";
11:23 <mixnetwork> this i have
11:23 <kidanger> I can't compile :/
11:24 <eddiefantastic> kidanger: why not?
11:24 <kidanger> Don't work
11:24 <eddiefantastic> mixnetwork: can you run ./ladder.php on it's own?
11:25 <eddiefantastic> kidanger: what's the error?
11:25 <eddiefantastic> kidanger: you compile with --disable-glout?
11:25 <kidanger> I have try: ./bootstrap.sh ./configure make and make install
11:25 <mixnetwork> #!/usr/bin/php No database selected
11:25 <mixnetwork> hmmm
11:26 <eddiefantastic> mixnetwork: can you: mysql -uusername -ppassword armagetron
11:26 <eddiefantastic> from the command line
11:26 <kidanger> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34511/
11:26 <kidanger> sry It's in french
11:27 <eddiefantastic> sudo apt-get install build-essential
11:28 <kidanger> build-essential est déjà la plus récente version disponible.
11:28 <eddiefantastic> sudo apt-get install automake
11:29 <eddiefantastic> sudo apt-get install build-essential automake
11:29 <eddiefantastic> kidanger: what's that in english?
11:29 <kidanger> #t fr en deja installé
11:29 <armabot> kidanger: already installé
11:30 <eddiefantastic> you probably just need automake
11:30 <kidanger> yes
11:30 <kidanger> and now ?
11:30 <eddiefantastic> you need that for bootstrap
11:30 <eddiefantastic> try again
11:30 <mixnetwork> ok, works now
11:31 <mixnetwork> but i get this now
11:31 <mixnetwork> Warning: fgets(): supplied argument is not a valid stream resource in /srv/www/vhosts/prefer.de/subdomains/spacezone/httpdocs/space/ladder.php on line 27
11:32 <eddiefantastic> what version of php do you have?
11:32 <eddiefantastic> php -v
11:32 <kidanger> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34512/
11:32 <kidanger> awww
11:32 <mixnetwork> 4.3.10
11:34 <eddiefantastic> kidanger: crumbs
11:34 <kidanger> #t en fr crumbs
11:34 <armabot> kidanger: miettes
11:34 <kidanger> humm
11:35 <kidanger> ./configure ----etc works
11:35 <eddiefantastic> kidanger: try to run it then, it may be ok
11:36 <kidanger> run what ?
11:36 <kidanger> ./configure --disable-glout --enable-automakedefaults --disable-sysinstall --disable-etc --disable-useradd --disable-initscripts ?
11:36 <eddiefantastic> armagetronad-dedicated
11:36 <eddiefantastic> make && make install
11:36 <eddiefantastic> ?
11:36 <mixnetwork> eddi:i have version 4.3.10
11:37 <eddiefantastic> ok, I'm lookin, I have 5,
11:37 <kidanger> aww aww
11:38 <eddiefantastic> mixnetwork: was that with the whole 'cat ladderlog.txt | ladder.php' command?
11:39 <eddiefantastic> or just on it's own?
11:39 <mixnetwork> jepp
11:39 <mixnetwork> eh
11:39 <mixnetwork> hoe you mean
11:39 <kidanger> look that : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34513/
11:39 <mixnetwork> how
11:39 <kidanger> many error
11:39 <mixnetwork> this message comes if I call the ladder.php in the browser
11:39 <mixnetwork> many
11:39 <mixnetwork> yes
11:40 <mixnetwork> oops
11:40 <mixnetwork> lol
11:40 <mixnetwork> look here:http://spacezone.prefer.de/space/ladder.php
11:41 <kidanger> I don't understand what is the problem !
11:42 <eddiefantastic> brb
11:47 <eddiefantastic> mixnetwork: ladder.php is a parsing script, not a webpage
11:47 <eddiefantastic> you will need to modify ladder_ladle.php to display the data
11:47 <eddiefantastic> ladder.php is for populating the database from ladderlog.txt
11:54 <kidanger> And me ? how can I do a CTF ?
11:54 <eddiefantastic> kidanger: http://crazy-tronners.com/tron-pig-160407.tar.gz
11:55 <eddiefantastic> kidanger: try that source, you don't need to ./bootstrap
11:55 <eddiefantastic> just configure
11:55 <eddiefantastic> make && make install
11:55 <kidanger> configure with argument
11:55 <kidanger> ?
11:55 <eddiefantastic> yes
11:55 <kidanger> k
11:55 <kidanger> Thanks
11:57 <mixnetwork> oh ok
11:58 <kidanger> so : I download, extract, cd <in>, ./configure <arguments>, make && make install ?
11:59 <kidanger> eddiefantastic: there is a command to extract ?
11:59 <mixnetwork> whre must i put the ladder.php in?
11:59 <eddiefantastic> kidanger: that's the plan ;)
11:59 <kidanger> :)
11:59 <eddiefantastic> mixnetwork: it doesn't matter where it is really
11:59 <mixnetwork> ok
11:59 <kidanger> eddiefantastic: there is a command to extract ?
11:59 <mixnetwork> what is about the inc files and so on in the other php file
12:00 <eddiefantastic> tar -zxvf file.tar.gz
12:00 <mixnetwork> like this
12:00 <mixnetwork> include_once($phpbb_root_path . 'extension.inc');
12:00 <eddiefantastic> that's right, remove all them
12:00 <eddiefantastic> you will need to create your own links to mysql
12:01 <mixnetwork> like?
12:01 <mixnetwork> hav ean example?
12:01 <eddiefantastic> $server="wildfort";
12:01 <eddiefantastic> $host="mysql_host";
12:01 <eddiefantastic> $user="mysql_user";
12:01 <eddiefantastic> $pw="mysql_pass";
12:01 <eddiefantastic> $db="mysql_db";
12:01 <kidanger> k
12:02 <kidanger> humm Are you sure ? I don't must patch ??
12:02 <mixnetwork> in the ladder_ladle.php?
12:02 <eddiefantastic> you will need a mysql_connect() statement in there somewher
12:02 <eddiefantastic> kidanger: the patch is already applied
12:03 <kidanger> hmm
12:03 <eddiefantastic> mixnetwork: you really ought to run yourself though a php/mysql tutorial somewhere
12:03 <eddiefantastic> There's nothing hard here, but you will need to know the basics
12:03 <kidanger> ./configure --disable-glout --enable-automakedefaults --disable-sysinstall --disable-etc --disable-useradd --disable-initscripts ?
12:04 <mixnetwork> ok, i will try, thanks so far
12:04 <eddiefantastic> kidanger: the only one of those I use is --disable-glout. I don't know what the others do
12:04 <kidanger> hm
12:04 <mixnetwork> if i donn't get it to work, i will lett it as it is :(
12:05 <eddiefantastic> mixnetwork: you're welcome.
12:05 <kidanger> I don't must compile I have try ./armagetronad-dedicated and it works
12:05 <eddiefantastic> you have another copy there somewhere?
12:06 <eddiefantastic> kidanger: I do believe I gave you the binary
12:06 <kidanger> WWAW !!! The server work !
12:06 <kidanger> ty
12:06 <eddiefantastic> If you have problems, you may need to compile from source
12:06 <kidanger> ok
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12:07 <eddiefantastic> but I ran that binary for a couple of months on ctwf
12:07 <eddiefantastic> I was having trouble compiling ;)
12:08 <eddiefantastic> kidanger[Mange]: it has a few extra hacks there too. in the var dir you have a new log: edlog.txt
12:08 <eddiefantastic> it gives you all manner of new information
12:08 <kidanger[Mange]> ok.
12:08 * kidanger[Mange] part quelques minutes
12:08 -!- kidanger[Mange] is now known as kidanger[away]
12:09 <eddiefantastic> Now, who can tell me how to push array values in python?
12:21 <mixnetwork> Warning: mysql_query() [function.mysql-query]: A link to the server could not be established in /srv/www/vhosts/prefer.de/subdomains/spacezone/httpdocs/space/ladder_ladle.php on line 147
12:21 <mixnetwork> Access denied for user 'wwwrun'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
12:21 <mixnetwork> ooops
12:21 <mixnetwork> did not want that
12:21 <mixnetwork> hehe
12:23 <mixnetwork> ok, have to quit here, i can't find that out what to do or change. Its difficult if you are not familiar with php. I think i must let the txt files presente on the website, not ice, but anyway something :)
12:24 <eddiefantastic> mixnetwork: your php doesn't like the line: $line = rtrim(fgets(STDIN, 1024));
12:24 <eddiefantastic> line 27
12:24 <mixnetwork> ?
12:25 <eddiefantastic> that's why it failed initially
12:25 <mixnetwork> line 27 is empty
12:25 <eddiefantastic> of ladder.php?
12:25 <mixnetwork> oh no the other one
12:25 <eddiefantastic> you still have no data in your database
12:26 <mixnetwork> you mean this one
12:26 <mixnetwork> $line = rtrim(fgets(STDIN, 1024));
12:26 <mixnetwork> data is in database
12:26 <mixnetwork> i can see it
12:27 <eddiefantastic> it is? cool
12:27 <mixnetwork> yepp
12:27 <eddiefantastic> so, what's up with the web page?
12:27 <mixnetwork> can get it working
12:27 <mixnetwork> cann't
12:27 <mixnetwork> lol
12:27 <eddiefantastic> where is it?
12:27 <mixnetwork> http://spacezone.prefer.de/space/ladder_ladle.php
12:30 <eddiefantastic> line 146 $result=mysql_query($query) or die(mysql_error());
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12:30 <mixnetwork> i sse that yes
12:30 <eddiefantastic> change to $result=mysql_query($query, $link) or die(mysql_error());
12:30 <mixnetwork> see
12:31 <eddiefantastic> and at the top, under your user/pass variables add the line:
12:33 <eddiefantastic> $link=mysql_connect($host, $user, $pw);
12:33 <eddiefantastic> mysql_select_db($db);
12:35 <mixnetwork> hmmm
12:35 <mixnetwork> no failure now
12:35 <mixnetwork> but no data
12:36 <eddiefantastic> you specify the $server in ladder_ladle.php?
12:37 <mixnetwork> what is meant by server, the armagetron server or dbase server?
12:37 <eddiefantastic> line 140: WHERE server=\"ladle\"
12:38 <eddiefantastic> change ladle to whatever you specified in your ladder.php script
12:40 <mixnetwork> ok works
12:42 <eddiefantastic> sort of
12:42 <mixnetwork> ?
12:43 <mixnetwork> updates he automatically?
12:44 <eddiefantastic> no, you have just populated it with old data
12:44 <eddiefantastic> you also need to add this:
12:45 <eddiefantastic> line 57 reads: $limit="GROUP BY player"; change this to:
12:47 <eddiefantastic> $limit="GROUP BY player HAVING total_rounds>=100";
12:47 <eddiefantastic> change the 100 to the minimul rounds needed to be on the ladder
12:47 <eddiefantastic> *minimum
12:48 <eddiefantastic> otherwize 2 good rounds would put you to the top, as you see
12:48 <mixnetwork> lol
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12:48 <armabot> Seeker: (weather <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city.
12:48 <Seeker> #weather 21060
12:49 <armabot> Seeker: The current temperature in Baltimore, Maryland is 66.2°F (6:12 AM EDT on August 21, 2007). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 66.2°F. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
12:49 <eddiefantastic> you have a ladder of 1 ;)
12:49 <mixnetwork> now its empty
12:49 <eddiefantastic> reduce it to 50 perhaps?
12:50 <mixnetwork> normally not possible, i have many players which played already more than 100
12:51 <eddiefantastic> did you get any errors when processing ladderlog.txt?
12:51 <eddiefantastic> maybe all the data is not there
12:51 <mixnetwork> no
12:51 <eddiefantastic> ah, it only looks at the last 3 weeks of data
12:51 <mixnetwork> I reduced it to 50 now
12:51 <mixnetwork> but
12:52 <mixnetwork> plastik already payed 10000 rounds and more
12:52 <eddiefantastic> no it doesn't :S
12:52 <mixnetwork> ?
12:53 <eddiefantastic> are you sure that was the whole ladderlog.txt? how large was the file?
12:53 <mixnetwork> 140.112
12:54 <mixnetwork> not many players are in the database, i see that
12:54 <eddiefantastic> That's not very big
12:54 <mixnetwork> hmm
12:55 <eddiefantastic> look at the ladderlog.txt against the webpage, they should mathc
12:55 <eddiefantastic> *match
12:55 <mixnetwork> yes they mach
12:55 <eddiefantastic> just one is more organised ;)
12:55 <mixnetwork> but ladder.txt is much more
12:55 <eddiefantastic> ladder.txt?
12:55 <mixnetwork> won_rounds.txt also
12:56 <mixnetwork> yes, if i call the ladder.txr
12:56 <mixnetwork> txt
12:56 <eddiefantastic> yes, that's the old server ladder
12:56 <mixnetwork> yepp
12:57 <eddiefantastic> you haven't pruned the log files lately?
12:58 <mixnetwork> hmmm, yes i remmeber
12:58 <eddiefantastic> oh
12:58 <eddiefantastic> then that data is lost
12:58 <mixnetwork> i made the ladderlog.txt empty, because he was so big
12:58 <mixnetwork> wa a week ago
12:58 <mixnetwork> :(
12:59 <eddiefantastic> then, that is a week's data ;)
12:59 <eddiefantastic> look at it this way, you have a fresh start ;)
12:59 <mixnetwork> but what is updateing the data in the database, does this goes automatically now?
12:59 <eddiefantastic> no, have you used screen?
12:59 <mixnetwork> nope
13:00 <eddiefantastic> you need to open a new screen session, type: screen -S ladder
13:00 <mixnetwork> so i must do this command cat with screen
13:00 <eddiefantastic> this will open a new screen session called screen
13:00 <eddiefantastic> no, I will come to that
13:01 <mixnetwork> because I start the servers this way with screen
13:01 <eddiefantastic> you have used screen then, good
13:02 <mixnetwork> just with 3 of them
13:02 <mixnetwork> the other one starts as deamon
13:02 <eddiefantastic> you need the following command: tail -f -n0 /path/to/ladderlog.txt | /path/t0/ladder.php
13:02 <eddiefantastic> this will update the database with new data as it happens
13:03 <eddiefantastic> you can then detach from the screen and leave it running
13:03 <mixnetwork> can i start it this way?
13:03 <mixnetwork> screen tail -f -n0 /path/to/ladderlog.txt | /path/t0/ladder.php
13:04 <eddiefantastic> hmm, maybe this way: screen `tail -f -n0 /path/to/ladderlog.txt | /path/t0/ladder.php`
13:04 <eddiefantastic> if you're lucky
13:04 <mixnetwork> lol
13:05 <mixnetwork> is there any way to start this automatically if the server reboots?
13:05 <eddiefantastic> oh, and you can rename the page ladder_ladle.php to whatever.php
13:06 <eddiefantastic> if ^that command works, add it to your startup script
13:06 <mixnetwork> ok
13:07 <mixnetwork> ooops
13:07 <mixnetwork> i cann't access my server anymore over webmin :(
13:09 <eddiefantastic> can't help you there :(
13:12 <mixnetwork> hehe
13:12 <mixnetwork> hmm
13:12 <mixnetwork> this does not work
13:12 <mixnetwork> cat /var/games/armagetronad-dedicated_sb/var/ladderlog.txt | /srv/www/vhosts/prefer.de/subdomains/spacezone/httpdocs/space_3/ladder_sb.php
13:12 <mixnetwork> but this does? what wrong?
13:12 <mixnetwork> cat /var/games/armagetronad-dedicated/var/ladderlog.txt | /srv/www/vhosts/prefer.de/subdomains/spacezone/httpdocs/space/ladder.php
13:13 <eddiefantastic> chmod +x ladder_sb.php?
13:13 <mixnetwork> it is qwritable
13:13 <eddiefantastic> is it executable?
13:14 <mixnetwork> yepp
13:14 <eddiefantastic> what's the error?
13:14 <mixnetwork> none
13:14 <mixnetwork> nothing happens
13:14 <eddiefantastic> cat /var/games/armagetronad-dedicated/var/ladderlog.txt
13:14 <eddiefantastic> what does that do?
13:15 <mixnetwork> that works
13:15 <eddiefantastic> cat /var/games/armagetronad-dedicated_sb/var/ladderlog.txt
13:15 <eddiefantastic> sorry, that one?
13:15 <mixnetwork> yes
13:16 <eddiefantastic> displays the file contents?
13:16 <mixnetwork> yepp
13:16 <eddiefantastic> ls -l /srv/www/vhosts/prefer.de/subdomains/spacezone/httpdocs/space_3/ladder_sb.php
13:16 <eddiefantastic> what does that give you?
13:17 <mixnetwork> -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15309 Aug 21 10:58 /srv/www/vhosts/prefer.de/subdomains/spacezone/httpdocs/space_3/ladder_sb.php
13:18 <eddiefantastic> how large is that ladder? maybe it just processed it very quickly?
13:18 <eddiefantastic> have you checked the database?
13:19 <mixnetwork> database is empty
13:20 <eddiefantastic> all you changed on ladder.php->ladder_sb.php is the servername right?
13:21 <mixnetwork> ladder_sb is for the second server, i made a new dbase for that one with new user and pw and i canged it also in the ladder.php
13:22 <mixnetwork> i creazed also the tables in there
13:22 <eddiefantastic> they can all use the same database
13:22 <mixnetwork> oh
13:22 <mixnetwork> really
13:22 <mixnetwork> nice
13:22 <mixnetwork> ok
13:22 <eddiefantastic> they look at the server field to distinguish
13:23 <mixnetwork> ok
13:23 <eddiefantastic> just change that in ladder.php and ladder_ladle.php and you have your 2 set up
13:23 <eddiefantastic> otherwise it'll get messy
13:24 <eddiefantastic> like it isn't already ;)
13:24 <mixnetwork> i have 4
13:25 <mixnetwork> hehe
13:26 <mixnetwork> buit it does not solve my problem now
13:26 <eddiefantastic> with 4 servers, what you could do is have one overall ladder that looks at all 4 servers
13:27 <eddiefantastic> just remove the line where server=\"ladle\"
13:27 <eddiefantastic> in ladder_ladle.php
13:27 <mixnetwork> ah
13:27 <mixnetwork> and than?
13:27 <eddiefantastic> as well as the 4 individual ladder which specify a server
13:28 <mixnetwork> but they mess up than the ladders for each seperate server?
13:28 <eddiefantastic> as long as each server has a different name in ladder.php, no
13:29 <mixnetwork> hmmm
13:29 <mixnetwork> shit, running out of time
13:29 <eddiefantastic> delete ladder_pb.php, copy ladder.php again, only change the server name, run it again
13:29 <mixnetwork> musst go away in a few minutes
13:29 <eddiefantastic> ok
13:29 <mixnetwork> ah ok
13:35 <mixnetwork> ok, must go now, will try this evening again ;)
13:35 <mixnetwork> thanks in advance
13:36 <eddiefantastic> no problem, good luck
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16:00 <MrBougo> hay
16:00 <MrBougo> i have some GPL notice on some python script
16:00 <MrBougo> i want to modify it
16:01 <MrBougo> it's a ctually a supybot plugin
16:01 <MrBougo> i guess i have to make the source public
16:01 <MrBougo> link to the original
16:01 <MrBougo> keep the original notice
16:01 <MrBougo> but what else do i have to do?
16:06 <MrBougo> Lucifer_arma ?
16:07 <MrBougo> #pingy
16:07 <armabot> pongy
16:08 <luke-jr> MrBougo: you don't have to do any of that
16:08 <MrBougo> so what? :p
16:08 <luke-jr> just leave the notice there
16:08 <luke-jr> and don't send people .pyc without .py
16:09 <luke-jr> that's all
16:10 <MrBougo> oh
16:10 <MrBougo> heh, i didt even know that .pyc existed
16:10 <MrBougo> didnt*
16:11 <MrBougo> krazeyh!
16:13 <luke-jr> easier to just send .py anyway
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17:03 <Lucifer_arma> #pin
17:03 <Lucifer_arma> #ping
17:03 <armabot> pong
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17:44 <mixnetwork> hi
17:44 <mixnetwork> eddi?
17:44 <mixnetwork> there?
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18:04 <ghableska> #weather 50266
18:04 <ghableska> #tea
18:04 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 84.9°F (11:09 AM CDT on August 21, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 71.6°F. Pressure: 28.89 in 978.2 hPa (Rising). Flash Flood Watch in effect through Wednesday afternoon...
18:04 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: No online players.
18:20 * Lucifer_arma yawns
18:33 <mixnetwork> eddie are you there?
18:45 <Lucifer_arma> haha, I just made it impossible for any ADD person to watch the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy in my house
18:45 <Lucifer_arma> the two series CDs are on blue discs and put in purple cases
18:45 <Lucifer_arma> the movie, however, is on a purple disc in a blue case
18:49 <ghableska> o.0
18:49 <ghableska> #armaservers
18:49 <armabot> ghableska: This data is 49 seconds old; ë | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ì/xff9900 (15/16), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (13/14), Wild West =Capture The Flag= (10/10), >3D> Eternal Destiny Clan Server ~{DF}~ (9/16), Fortress Café (7/32), Norm's Place (5/12), The YELLOW Submarine (5/16), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (3/12), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (3/12), SPACEZONE III (3/15), (1 more message)
18:49 <ghableska> #tea
18:49 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (7/32): Badzilla, hoop, k alf ñ CT|Tadd, Speedy, ~|DS|~sunny, ¦Ö¦FoFo, ¦×¥ $µazero
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19:01 <ghableska> hey Vanhayes
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19:34 <MrBougo> &part
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19:44 <ToddKitchen> Lucifer_arma: ping
19:44 <Lucifer_arma> ToddKitchen: pong
19:45 <ToddKitchen> ok...i went ahead and installed just kubuntu on this machine...will save the server one for the wired box...anyway...i have the wife's windows box seeing this machine but it asks for a pwd...how do i disable that?
19:47 <Lucifer_arma> don't know :/
19:47 <ToddKitchen> it's the "security = whatever" in smb.conf i think
19:51 <Lucifer_arma> it's been a couple of years since I've setup a samba server, I don't remember anything now
19:52 <ToddKitchen> hrmm
19:52 <ToddKitchen> :/
19:54 <Lucifer_arma> my spindle isn't big enough for all of my star trek discs :(
19:54 <Lucifer_arma> that's a lot of fucking star trek
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19:57 <Stempo> #weather 85747
19:57 <armabot> Stempo: The current temperature in Fast Horse Ranch, Vail, Arizona is 92.7°F (10:59 AM MST on August 21, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: 62.6°F. Pressure: 29.27 in 991.1 hPa (Falling).
20:00 <Stempo> #weather Beaufort
20:00 <armabot> Stempo: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
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20:13 <MrBougo> bye
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20:17 <ghableska> #tea
20:17 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): %, Monkey, schwuli, ~Çögöqt~, ¦Ö¦$µbzero, ¦×¥ FoFo
20:25 <Lucifer_arma> is it twisted to take pleasure in flying a paper airplane through a spider web?
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20:38 <ToddKitchen> grrr
20:43 <ghableska> rrrg
20:54 <ToddKitchen> well...i've got it seeing the box and browsing into the box itself...but i cannot access the printer or the shared folder :/
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20:55 <Lucifer_arma> you do have to make samba users separate from unix users
20:55 <Lucifer_arma> there's a way to sync them, but I don't know it (other than ldap, of course)
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20:58 <ToddKitchen> how do you make samba users?
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21:04 <eddiefantastic> smbpasswd or summit
21:04 <eddiefantastic> iirc you can turn smbpasswd off and it will use system users
21:05 <eddiefantastic> I had it linked into active directory at one stage as a file server for windows users
21:05 <eddiefantastic> but it didn't work out :(
21:06 <eddiefantastic> samba's come a long way since then, I hear it can now act AS an active directory server
21:08 <ToddKitchen> hrmm...i'm having a bit of trouble with it :/
21:09 <eddiefantastic> have you set up samba users?
21:09 <eddiefantastic> by default you have to
21:10 <eddiefantastic> depends on how many users there are whether it's worth changing that
21:10 <ToddKitchen> it tells me it can't modify the smbpasswd file
21:10 <ToddKitchen> it's just a home network
21:10 <ToddKitchen> 3 users tops
21:12 <eddiefantastic> does it need much security?
21:13 <ToddKitchen> no
21:14 <ToddKitchen> just need to be able to see the shares and print to the printer hosted on this box
21:14 <eddiefantastic> you have: guest ok = yes
21:14 <eddiefantastic> on the shares?
21:14 <eddiefantastic> browsable = yes
21:16 <ToddKitchen> yep
21:18 <eddiefantastic> my shares look something like this:
21:18 <eddiefantastic> [films] comment = Get you Movies Here writeable = yes public = yes path = /mymedia/films
21:23 <Lucifer_arma> man, I hate going through piles of unlabeled cds
21:24 <Lucifer_arma> I really need to quit making cds and not marking what they are :/
21:25 <ToddKitchen> the thing that gets me is that i can see the share...i just can't access it on the xp box
21:25 <Lucifer_arma> machine needs a username too
21:26 <ToddKitchen> ?
21:26 <Lucifer_arma> the xp machine needs an account of its own on the server, I think
21:26 <Lucifer_arma> I forget
21:26 <Lucifer_arma> if you know how windows wants things, samba wants 'em that way too, it just doesn't do the automatic negotiation that windows does
21:27 <ToddKitchen> according to all the docs i've read, security = share means that anyone can get to it
21:27 <ToddKitchen> with guest = ok
21:27 <ToddKitchen> errr
21:27 <Lucifer_arma> I'm sorry I don't have more information for you, but this is stuff in my mind's attic, and is therefore hard to reach and probably inaccurate somewhat :)
21:27 <ToddKitchen> guest ok = yes
21:28 <Lucifer_arma> on the flip side, my labyrinth encoding is 57% done
21:28 <Lucifer_arma> er, but it says its still on the first pass. I hope this thing is done when I get home, so I can burn it (trying to make a 900+MB file into a 700MB file that can be burned)
21:29 <Lucifer_arma> fuck, more unlabeled discs
21:29 <Lucifer_arma> good, they're dirty, so I can just throw 'em away (I'm not cleaning dirty unlabeled discs just to find out they're trash anyway)
21:32 <eddiefantastic> ToddKitchen: you make a guest account in the global config
21:32 <eddiefantastic> ?
21:36 <GodTodd> what do i put there?
21:36 <GodTodd> (same guy different room :))
21:37 <eddiefantastic> guest account = ed
21:37 <eddiefantastic> well, that's what mine says ;)
21:37 <eddiefantastic> pretty sure I set ed up as a smbuser
21:38 <eddiefantastic> smbpasswd -a ed
21:39 <eddiefantastic> iirc it asked for a password
21:40 <eddiefantastic> these are the credentials used by my windows/linux/mac/xbox/slimdevices dotted around my house to access files
21:40 <eddiefantastic> you may need to set the workgroup name too, anything you like
21:40 <ToddKitchen> ok...did that
21:40 <ToddKitchen> i have the workgroup name set up
21:40 <eddiefantastic> restart samba
21:41 <ToddKitchen> it shows the box under the workgroup in xp
21:41 <ToddKitchen> did
21:41 <eddiefantastic> any joy?
21:41 <ToddKitchen> nope :/
21:42 <eddiefantastic> you can see the shares but unable to access the files?
21:42 <ToddKitchen> yep
21:42 <eddiefantastic> did it ask you for a user/pass when you attempted to open them?
21:43 <ToddKitchen> no
21:43 <ToddKitchen> sec and i'll get the gist of the message
21:44 <ToddKitchen> says it's not accessible...you may not have permission to access this network resource...yadda yadda
21:44 <ToddKitchen> http://pastebin.ca/666020
21:44 <ToddKitchen> that's my smb.conf
21:45 <ToddKitchen> it's clunky cuz i'm a noob ;)
21:46 <eddiefantastic> guest account = nobody
21:46 <eddiefantastic> that the sambauser you set up?
21:46 <ToddKitchen> no
21:46 <eddiefantastic> ah, should be
21:46 <ToddKitchen> i set up the todd one in global
21:47 <eddiefantastic> you might want to comment the nobody one out
21:49 <ToddKitchen> k
21:49 <ToddKitchen> did that
21:49 <ghableska> http://wwgame.ytmnd.com/
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21:49 <eddiefantastic> and restart samba each time you change anything
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21:49 <ToddKitchen> yep
21:49 <ToddKitchen> been doing that :)
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21:51 <eddiefantastic> have you tried sambaswat?
21:51 <eddiefantastic> I think that's it's name
21:51 <ToddKitchen> nope
21:52 <eddiefantastic> it's a web frontend that writes the config files for you, you just tell it your shares
21:52 <ToddKitchen> does it work well?
21:52 <Lucifer_arma> sure it's not sambastwat?
21:52 <eddiefantastic> haha
21:53 <eddiefantastic> it's certainly worth a try, it completely rewrites the smb.conf
21:53 <eddiefantastic> my guess is you have a small error, but it's been so long since I configured it
21:54 <ToddKitchen> yeah...i'm so close that it seems it's probably something itty bitty :/
21:55 <ToddKitchen> well...gotta run the oldest to science club...i'll mess with this more later...thanks for the help eddiefantastic :)
21:55 <eddiefantastic> yw
22:02 <ghableska> #weather 50266
22:02 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 91.6°F (3:04 PM CDT on August 21, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 71.6°F. Pressure: 28.85 in 976.9 hPa (Falling). Flash Flood Watch in effect through Wednesday afternoon...
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22:05 <spidey> ok
22:05 <spidey> fuck a ubuntu server install
22:06 <spidey> i'm getting blank cd's
22:06 <spidey> you have any idea how fucking long aptitude install ubuntu-desktop takes? -.-
22:08 <tramshed> how long?!
22:09 <spidey> to long for me to care to do it again
22:12 <tramshed> hah
22:14 <spidey> D:
22:14 <spidey> now to figure out why xchat-gnome sucks so much =/
22:24 <ghableska> #tea
22:24 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (1/32): -*<y<lo*-
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22:38 <quarg> hello
22:38 <quarg> anyone know how i would know if i am being hacked?
22:39 <quarg> my server keep crashing for some odd reason
22:39 <quarg> i get this message
22:39 <quarg> Error: Error in gSpawnPoint* gArena::LeastDangerousSpawnPoint() in /Users/lee/Desktop/armagetronad-0.2.8.2.1/MacOS/../src/tron/gArena.cpp:136 :
22:39 <quarg> No spawnpoint available!
22:39 <quarg> Segmentation fault
22:42 <eddiefantastic> /away eat my shorts
22:43 <quarg> eat your own shorts. i have bad digestion
22:46 <ghableska> #crazylate eat your own shorts. i have bad digestion
22:46 <armabot> ghableska: eat its own short circuits that I have bad digestion
22:47 <ghableska> #crazylate eat its own short circuits that I have bad digestion
22:47 <armabot> ghableska: eat its own short circuits that I have bad digestion
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23:30 <tramshed> armabot, j00 has a megahal now?
23:31 <tramshed> #crazylate eat balls botface
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23:31 <armabot> tramshed: eat botface of the balls
23:31 <tramshed> #crazylate tramshed is awesome
23:31 <armabot> tramshed: tramshed is impressive
23:31 <tramshed> hmm
23:32 <tramshed> I dont think you are a megahal
23:32 <tramshed> #crazylate tramshed is impressive
23:32 <armabot> tramshed: tramshed is impressive
23:32 <tramshed> #crazylate tramshed?
23:32 <armabot> tramshed: tramshed?
23:32 <tramshed> nope
23:32 <tramshed> not a hal
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23:45 <Fanchen> hallo?
23:45 <Fanchen> hello
23:46 <Fanchen> can someone help me, I dont know how to play maps other users crested
23:46 <Fanchen> *created
23:49 <Fanchen> answer please :(
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Log from 2007-08-22:
--- Day changed Wed Aug 22 2007
00:04 <ghableska> #tea
00:04 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (3/32): -|ct|-ed-, Diesel, ~*SP*~joda.bot
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00:19 <ToddKitchen> hrmm...what section of the router config is port opening under? :/
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00:47 <ToddKitchen> hell...i can't even get swat running :/
00:50 <eddiefantastic> what's the problem?
00:50 <eddiefantastic> //localhost:901
00:50 <eddiefantastic> if that's correct, I'll eat my hat
00:52 <eddiefantastic> it is port 901
00:53 * eddiefantastic gets some salt for his hat
00:54 <GodTodd> yeah...it won't connect to that address tho
00:54 <GodTodd> i've opened that port and edited the conf files
00:55 <GodTodd> netstat doesn't show swat running either
00:56 <GodTodd> when i try to access the share here on my laptop it says the share doesn't exist
00:57 <eddiefantastic> jeepers
00:58 <GodTodd> i keep telling it that it does...i can see it on the screen ;)
00:58 <eddiefantastic> where was that pastebin thing again?
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01:02 <ToddKitchen> http://pastebin.ca/666239
01:02 <ToddKitchen> that's my current one :)
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01:06 <EdlovesLegit> what is the os?
01:07 <EdlovesLegit> dist I mean
01:07 <ToddKitchen> kubuntu 7.04
01:07 <EdlovesLegit> was that mainly default?
01:07 <ToddKitchen> mainly
01:08 <EdlovesLegit> [global] log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m guest account = ed
01:08 <EdlovesLegit> passwd chat = *Enter\snew\sUNIX\spassword:* %n\n *Retype\snew\sUNIX\spassword:* %n\n
01:08 <EdlovesLegit> socket options = TCP_NODELAY
01:08 <EdlovesLegit> obey pam restrictions = yes
01:08 <EdlovesLegit> null passwords = yes
01:08 <EdlovesLegit> passwd program = /usr/bin/passwd %u
01:08 <EdlovesLegit> passdb backend = tdbsam
01:08 <EdlovesLegit> dns proxy = no
01:08 <EdlovesLegit> netbios name = EDSHARES
01:08 <EdlovesLegit> server string = %h server (Samba, Ubuntu)
01:08 <EdlovesLegit> invalid users = root
01:08 <EdlovesLegit> workgroup = EDSHOUSE
01:08 <EdlovesLegit> os level = 20
01:08 <EdlovesLegit> ubuntu 7.04
01:08 <EdlovesLegit> K
01:08 <EdlovesLegit> that is my global
01:09 <EdlovesLegit> but I've had that since 5.04
01:09 <EdlovesLegit> ubuntu never dies
01:09 <ToddKitchen> haha
01:09 <EdlovesLegit> even when you want it to
01:10 <ToddKitchen> so should i substitute that global for mine and just change the specifics?
01:10 <EdlovesLegit> then my shares look just like this:
01:10 <EdlovesLegit> [Stuff] comment = Put your rubbish here writeable = yes public = yes path = /stuff/stuff
01:10 <EdlovesLegit> just not on one line ;)
01:10 <EdlovesLegit> it's a small and simple file, but it's worked for over 2 yesrs
01:11 <EdlovesLegit> *years
01:11 <EdlovesLegit> back up yours and give that a try
01:11 <ToddKitchen> now...the shares path....i have /dev/hdb1 mounted to /mnt/kitchenstorage
01:11 <ToddKitchen> which path do i use?
01:12 <luke-jr__> ...
01:12 <luke-jr__> duh
01:12 <EdlovesLegit> /mnt.kit..
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01:13 <ToddKitchen> k...thought so...just making sure
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01:18 <ToddKitchen> hrmm...won't let me save it :/
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01:26 <Fanchen> :) hi
01:26 <Fanchen> someone here :-|
01:26 <Fanchen> hello?
01:26 <Fanchen> help me :/
01:27 <eddiefantastic> are you falling?
01:27 <Fanchen> who :-|
01:27 <eddiefantastic> you need help?
01:27 <Fanchen> would be nice. Do you speak german?
01:28 <eddiefantastic> no
01:28 <Fanchen> Can you tell me how to chat in armagetron online games
01:28 <Fanchen> I searched the half day for a help site or forum but I didnt find useful things :-/
01:28 <eddiefantastic> s i think is the default
01:28 <eddiefantastic> 's'
01:28 <Fanchen> I tried
01:28 <Fanchen> I dont think it worked
01:28 <eddiefantastic> you can set the chat key in player settings
01:29 <Fanchen> ok...I'll try again...but I have one more question
01:29 <eddiefantastic> ok
01:29 <Fanchen> I read that someone made his own maps
01:29 <eddiefantastic> you have good english
01:29 <Fanchen> thanks :)
01:29 <eddiefantastic> lots of people do
01:30 <Fanchen> how can I play them?
01:30 <eddiefantastic> it's all in the wiki
01:30 <eddiefantastic> wiki.armagetronad.net
01:30 <Fanchen> ok, I'll try to find, but I already looked there...
01:30 <eddiefantastic> it's under extending armagetron advanced I think
01:32 <luke-jr__> Fanchen: MAP_FILE setting
01:35 <Fanchen> ?
01:36 <Fanchen> sorry, maybe I come back tomorrow, I'm too tired now, good night.
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01:42 <ghableska> #weather 50266
01:42 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 88.5°F (6:43 PM CDT on August 21, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 75.2°F. Pressure: 28.83 in 976.2 hPa (Steady). Flash Flood Watch in effect through Wednesday afternoon...
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01:57 <spidey> woot
01:57 <spidey> got the ati restricted drivers installed
01:58 <eddiefantastic> good on yer
01:58 <spidey> http://wiki.serios.net/wiki/Main_Page#ATI_proprietary_display_drivers_2
01:58 <spidey> <3
01:58 <spidey> worked perfect
01:59 <spidey> now
01:59 <eddiefantastic> cool
01:59 <spidey> eddiefantastic: do you know the package for opengl? :D
02:00 <eddiefantastic> for tron? or general?
02:00 <spidey> general
02:00 <spidey> http://wiki.serios.net/wiki/Main_Page#ATI_proprietary_display_drivers_2
02:00 <spidey> gr
02:00 <spidey> Sys_Error: GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem
02:01 <eddiefantastic> no, sorry, I'm a geforce man
02:01 <spidey> k
02:02 <eddiefantastic> geforce works a treat
02:02 <eddiefantastic> though not with ubuntu restricted drivers
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02:06 <Seeker> #weather 21060
02:06 <armabot> Seeker: The current temperature in Baltimore, Maryland is 64.4°F (7:54 PM EDT on August 21, 2007). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 62.6°F. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019 hPa (Rising).
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02:28 <Vanhayes> #tea
02:28 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: No online players.
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02:52 <Lucifer_arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=191507#191507
02:53 <Seeker> EVENIN LUCI
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03:36 <Lucifer_arma> GOOD MORNING SEEKER
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04:28 <ghableska> #weather 50266
04:28 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 83.5°F (9:34 PM CDT on August 21, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 75.2°F. Pressure: 28.86 in 977.2 hPa (Rising). Flash Flood Watch in effect through Wednesday afternoon...
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04:49 <Lucifer_arma> oh good, only 8 days left to download red dwarf
04:53 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: check out avidemux for all your video encoding needs
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05:48 <ToddKitchen> Lucifer_arma: yeah...i discovered that yesterday :)
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05:53 <GodTodd> grrr this is getting really freaking annoying :/
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06:18 <GodTodd> hey Lucifer_arma did you get the 2.4 preview or a different one?
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> of what?
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> avidemux?
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: ^^^^^^^
06:35 <GodTodd> yeah
06:35 <GodTodd> i got it compiling now...havent had to make the configure file before :)
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> for what?
06:35 <GodTodd> avidemux
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> ah. Um, I installed the ubuntu package ;)
06:36 <GodTodd> heh...i'm installing the source :)
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> it's encoding right now so I can't find the version to see what it is, but I suspect apt-cache can tell me
06:36 <GodTodd> if it's the ubuntu source then i suspect it's prior to 2.4
06:37 <GodTodd> (they tend to be a version or two behind ;))
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> probably is, but it does the things I needed from it
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> I guess we'll see when I start doing more complex things, eh?
06:37 <GodTodd> i need something to convert avi to mpeg
06:37 <GodTodd> i assume it can do that from what i read
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> it's not a non-linear video editor
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, it can, pretty easily
06:37 <GodTodd> godo
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> except, avi is a container, not a video codec :)
06:38 <GodTodd> i know
06:38 <GodTodd> i need it to go from .avi to .mpeg :P
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> frequently contains mpeg-4, aka DivX;-)
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> well, if it's already mpeg internally, you can just copy the stream with mencoder
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> depends on what you're aiming for, really, but yeah, I mentioned avidemux in the first place to avoid having to use mencoder :)
06:39 <GodTodd> mainly....i want to be able to play some of my "borrowed" movies on my dvd player
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> ? mine understands avi files
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> and it's a cheap bastard, too
06:39 <GodTodd> mine gave an error
06:39 <GodTodd> tried it
06:39 <GodTodd> :/
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> awww, that sucks
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> you might consider going to svcd/vcd then, for some of them
06:39 <GodTodd> format error i think it was
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> depends on what they are, really
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> could be it didn't understand the codec itself, but could read avi just fine
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> you should be safe with mpeg-2 video, though. I believe that's what dvds are encoded with
06:40 <GodTodd> yeah...i figure i'll dick around until i get the results i want
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> the real difference between dvd and svcd (besides the file size) is that dvds are encoded at a much higher bitrate for better quality
06:41 <GodTodd> hell...the boys' little travel dvd players understand avi
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> if it makes you feel any better, my last dvd player (which I still have, even though it's broke, because it's a vhs/dvd combo) didn't do anything but dvds
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> couldn't even play audio cds
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> and that thing cost $80. My new one only costed $20
06:41 <GodTodd> ahh...mine at least plays audio cds and mp3s :)
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> but it plays damn near everything
06:42 <GodTodd> hrmm
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, my new one plays mp3s, but not vorbis :/
06:42 <GodTodd> let me try the kitchen player
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> I'm supposedly 51 minutes from a 700MB Labyrinth that I can burn :)
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> the run that I ran before I went to work that ended after I got home ended up 799MB, from a 999MB source :(
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> Since I don't have a tv card that I can use to encode all my vhs tapes, I'm going to try to torrent all the vhs movies I have so I can store them somewheres else
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> Then I'm going to rip all my dvds so I can archive those too
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> but I don't have enough CDs for all that :(
07:29 <spidey> haha
07:29 <spidey> #night
07:29 <armabot> Good night spidey!
07:33 <Lucifer_arma> this is horrible!
07:33 <Lucifer_arma> it totally cut fps down in unforgivable ways! :(
07:40 <Lucifer_arma> http://web.njit.edu/all_topics/Prog_Lang_Docs/html/mplayer/encoding.html <--- the old mencoder howto, apparently
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08:43 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, will a package from a debian unstable repo work in ubuntu?
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08:44 <kidanger> hi
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09:33 <mixnetwork> hello
09:33 <mixnetwork> eddie?
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10:58 <armabot> armagetronad: mlbelenus * r7322 /private/belenus/OpenBSD/ports/games/armagetronad/server/pkg/PLIST: bump _armagetronad user id
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13:44 <Seeker> #weather 21060
13:44 <armabot> Seeker: The current temperature in Baltimore, Maryland is 62.6°F (7:38 AM EDT on August 22, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 59.0°F. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021 hPa (Rising).
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14:45 <armabot> armagetronad: mlbelenus * r7323 /private/belenus/OpenBSD/ports/games/armagetronad/server/distinfo: .tar.bz2 -> .tar.gz
14:46 <armabot> armagetronad: mlbelenus * r7324 /private/belenus/OpenBSD/ports/games/armagetronad/client/distinfo: .tar.bz2 -> .tar.gz
14:47 <armabot> armagetronad: mlbelenus * r7325 /private/belenus/OpenBSD/ports/games/armagetronad/ (client/Makefile server/Makefile): .tar.bz2 -> .tar.gz
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15:44 <MrBougo> &part
15:44 <MrBougo> crap it's slow today
15:45 <Seeker> ?
15:47 <MrBougo> &part
15:47 <MrBougo> &help part
15:47 <MrBougo> nvm
15:48 <MrBougo> roffles
15:48 <MrBougo> i thought that my bot was here
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16:10 <MrBougo> help search
16:10 <MrBougo> #help search
16:10 <armabot> MrBougo: (search <word>) -- Searches for <word> in the current configuration variables.
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19:03 <Vanhayes> #tea
19:03 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: No online players.
19:03 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
19:03 <armabot> Vanhayes: This data is 35 seconds old; Wild West =Capture The Flag= ~Multi~Mode~ (11/16), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (10/14), Wild West =Capture The Flag= (8/10), ë | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ì/xff9900 (7/16), Norm's Place (6/12), Wild West =Sumo= (6/14), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (6/12), SPACEZONE (5/15), Tigers Network Classic Play (5/16), Chico's Brake Boost Styball (5/8), WildCat (1 more message)
19:03 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
19:03 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 72°F / 22°C | Humidity: 38% | Pressure: 30.27in / 1025hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h | Updated: 2:00 PM ADT; Today - Sunny with cloudy periods. High 22C(72F). UV index 6 or high.; Tonight - Clear. Fog patches overnight. Low 8C(46F).; Thursday - Sunny. High 22C(72F).;
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19:42 <Lucifer_arma> well then, my dvd player doesn't understand mpeg4 :(
19:42 <Lucifer_arma> at least, not in .avi files
19:42 <MrBougo> :(
19:42 <MrBougo> try to rename to .mp4?
19:42 <MrBougo> some players really mind about the extension
19:42 <MrBougo> thats crap
19:43 -!- luke-jr__ is now known as luke-jr_
19:44 <MrBougo> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314458
19:44 <MrBougo> thats why you should hate microsoft
20:01 <P4> .sty
20:01 <P4> #sty
20:01 <armabot> P4: Chico's Brake Boost Styball: Players (10/8): -]0a|Arashi, -{GP}- Gonzap, Andrew, Carpo, FanaticGirl, favell, OLLI, SlaYer, The Death, Wacky
20:01 <P4> 10/8 ;P
20:04 <MrBougo> hehe
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20:30 <Lucifer_arma> GOOD MORNING SEEKER
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20:49 <eddiefantastic> NOTE: Windows XP and Linux can coexist on the same computer. For additional information, refer to your Linux documentation.
20:49 <eddiefantastic> ms aint helping with that one
20:49 <kidanger> I have a problem with: SPAWN_ZONE death, when someone go on the zone, the zone "die" too, why ?
20:50 <eddiefantastic> hey?
20:50 <kidanger> hey eddie
20:50 <eddiefantastic> who've you been talking too?
20:50 <eddiefantastic> kidanger: yes it does that
20:50 <eddiefantastic> spawn 2 zones
20:50 <eddiefantastic> or 3
20:50 <kidanger> oh bad
20:51 <kidanger> And how I can do for make zones all round ( same everytime.cfg: but don't work )
20:52 <eddiefantastic> aye, you can't put them in everytime.cfg, they don't work like that
20:52 <kidanger> yes I know
20:52 <eddiefantastic> you need to write a script that feed into arma
20:52 <kidanger> arph
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20:54 <eddiefantastic> tail -n0 -f $edlog | $parser | $tron --userconfigdir $userconfigdir --vardir $var --autoresourcedir $autoresourcedir | tee -a $log
20:54 <eddiefantastic> something like that
20:54 <kidanger> oO
20:54 <eddiefantastic> not too bad if you break it down
20:55 <kidanger> I have a script similar than that is think
20:55 <kidanger> I think*
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20:55 <kidanger> Oops, I must go :'(
20:55 <kidanger> cu eddie
20:55 <eddiefantastic> who told you about the zone spawning btw?
20:55 <eddiefantastic> ok, bye
20:56 <kidanger> btw ?
20:56 <eddiefantastic> by the way
20:56 <kidanger> I learn myself
20:56 <eddiefantastic> you read our wiki
20:56 <kidanger> what page ?
20:56 <eddiefantastic> it's top secret at the moment, because it's crap
20:56 <eddiefantastic> crazy-tronners.com/wiki
20:56 <kidanger> ah ? Can I use it ?
20:57 <eddiefantastic> sure
20:57 <kidanger> ok
20:57 <kidanger> ty
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20:57 <eddiefantastic> you have a slightly older version, it may not all work for you
21:10 <mkzelda> #weather 27545
21:10 <armabot> mkzelda: The current temperature in Hedingham, Raleigh, North Carolina is 92.3°F (3:16 PM EDT on August 22, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 68.0°F. Pressure: 30.06 in 1017.8 hPa (Falling).
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21:50 <P4> #alias add 42 "fetch http://42.pl/u/?auto=1&url=$*"
21:50 <armabot> P4: The operation succeeded.
21:50 <P4> #42 google.com
21:50 <armabot> P4: http://42.pl/u/1B
21:50 <P4> ^^ ln-s.net is still down :|
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21:59 <Lucifer_arma> #ping
22:00 <armabot> pong
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23:28 <Stewie-arma> hello everybody
23:33 <luke-jr_> die
23:33 <Stewie-arma> nevar?
23:43 <Stewie-arma> btw why would you say that to me? it hurts my feelings...
23:55 <luke-jr_> like i care about your pathetic feelings
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01:31 <GodTodd> #quote get 58
01:31 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #58: "luke, your so cute when you think you are right about some crazy position. - philippeqc2" (added by GodTodd at 03:34 AM, August 13, 2007)
01:31 <luke-jr_> #kick GodTodd
01:31 <armabot> luke-jr_: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
01:32 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
01:32 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Near Custer and Parker, Plano, Texas is 93.6°F (6:37 PM CDT on August 22, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 64.4°F. Pressure: 18.46 in 625.1 hPa (Steady).
01:32 <Stewie-arma> #weather La Jolla, CA
01:32 <armabot> Stewie-arma: The current temperature in La Jolla Shores, La Jolla, California is 80.2°F (4:35 PM PDT on August 22, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 66.2°F. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007.0 hPa (Falling).
01:33 <GodTodd> #serverinfo luke-jr_'s dick
01:33 <armabot> GodTodd: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “luke-jr_\\\'s dick” at the moment, sorry.
01:33 <Stewie-arma> #lastseen ~ x ~
01:33 <armabot> Stewie-arma: ~ X ~ has last been seen on Wild West =Sumo= 1 hour 1 minute ago.
01:34 <GodTodd> #echo There doesn't seem to be a “luke-jr_'s dick” at the moment, sorry.
01:34 <armabot> There doesn't seem to be a “luke-jr_'s dick” at the moment, sorry.
01:34 <Stewie-arma> lolz
01:37 <Stewie-arma> #echo &echo ?
01:37 <armabot> &echo ?
01:37 <Stewie-arma> aww
01:37 <Stewie-arma> lol
01:38 <Stewie-arma> man I'm hungry
01:42 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
01:42 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 64°F / 18°C | Humidity: 52% | Pressure: 30.25in / 1024hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 2mph / 4km/h | Updated: 8:00 PM ADT; Tonight - A few clouds. Fog patches overnight. Low 8C(46F).; Thursday - Sunny. High 21C(70F). UV index 6 or high. Thursday night cloudy. Wind becoming south 20 km/h (12 mph) near midnight. Low 14C(57F).; Friday - (1 more message)
01:42 <Vanhayes> warmer than usual this time of night
01:42 <Stewie-arma> what time of night is it?
01:47 <Vanhayes> almost 9
01:54 <Vanhayes> its getting dark around 8 again now
02:20 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
02:20 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 86.2°F (7:25 PM CDT on August 22, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 71.6°F. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012.1 hPa (Rising).
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03:40 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
03:40 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 87.6°F (8:46 PM CDT on August 22, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 71.6°F. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012.4 hPa (Falling).
03:41 <GodTodd> #quote get 58
03:41 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #58: "luke, your so cute when you think you are right about some crazy position. - philippeqc2" (added by GodTodd at 03:34 AM, August 13, 2007)
03:41 <GodTodd> #quote get 21
03:41 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #21: "<Luke-Jr_work__> btw, pedophile is good" (added by spidey at 06:34 AM, September 09, 2006)
03:51 <Stewie-arma> #q
03:52 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Quote #42: "The future doesn't belong to the fainthearted; it belongs to the brave. - Ronald Reagen, in his address following the explosion of the space shuttle Challenger" (added by Lucifer_arma at 02:03 PM, January 02, 2007)
03:52 <Stewie-arma> #q
03:52 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Quote #16: "Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it. - Brian Kernighan" (added by a user that is no longer registered at 11:21 PM, May 03, 2006)
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04:50 <Vanhayes_> #weather saint john
04:50 <armabot> Vanhayes_: Temperature: 50°F / 10°C | Humidity: 76% | Pressure: 30.27in / 1025hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h | Updated: 11:00 PM ADT; Tonight - A few clouds. Fog patches overnight. Low 8C(46F).; Thursday - Sunny. High 21C(70F). UV index 6 or high. Thursday night cloudy. Wind becoming south 20 km/h (12 mph) near midnight. Low 14C(57F).; Friday - (1 more message)
04:50 <Vanhayes_> #night
04:50 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes_!
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06:50 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
06:50 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 80.1°F (11:55 PM CDT on August 22, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 75.2°F. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Falling).
06:54 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: be careful when you take physics
06:54 <Stewie-arma> I'm taking chemistry...
06:54 <Lucifer_arma> blah, who gives a shit about chemistry? Physics is about real life!
06:54 <Stewie-arma> or atleast I will next week
06:54 * Lucifer_arma isn't snotty at all, really!
06:55 <Stewie-arma> it's true
06:55 <Lucifer_arma> me too, actually. General Chemistry, yippee
06:55 <Stewie-arma> same here, YAY!
06:55 <Stewie-arma> sorry I meant whoop-dee-doo
06:56 <Stewie-arma> didn't mean to offend
06:56 <Lucifer_arma> I hate to see chemistry as a waste of time, it is a prereq for my materials course, and my sister's a chemist
06:56 <Lucifer_arma> but I'm having a hard time getting excited about it
06:56 <Stewie-arma> it's all memorization
06:56 <Lucifer_arma> no interesting problems
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> in physics, from the first day, we start solving all the mysteries of the universe
06:57 <Stewie-arma> lol
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> but in chemistry it's metals and non-metals
06:57 <Stewie-arma> ALL of them ofcourse
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> electron shells, atomic mass, Avocado's Number
06:58 <Stewie-arma> but I am looking forward to biology the year after
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> why?
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> what's biology good for, anyway?
06:59 <Stewie-arma> cause I get to disect things
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> sicko
06:59 <Stewie-arma> what do you think doctors are?
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> drug vending machines?
06:59 <Stewie-arma> no that's grocers
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> apparently you don't live in the US
07:00 <Stewie-arma> appearently I do
07:00 <Stewie-arma> why do you think we get everything from china?
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> because we like sending it back :)
07:01 <Stewie-arma> no that's the girls that think their fat
07:01 <Stewie-arma> I used to get that mixed up to don't worry
07:12 <ToddKitchen> be careful why, Lucifer_arma?
07:13 <ToddKitchen> and, yes, gen chem sucks donkey balls
07:13 <Lucifer_arma> um, I forgot the exact warning I had in mind
07:13 <ToddKitchen> heh
07:13 <Lucifer_arma> something about trying to solve slightly weird physics problems right after sex
07:14 <ToddKitchen> must not have been too important then ;)
07:14 <ToddKitchen> haha
07:14 <Stewie-arma> I thought that was nearly impossible to do...
07:14 <ToddKitchen> wtf is this share locked now? :/
07:14 <Lucifer_arma> what?
07:14 <ToddKitchen> grrrr
07:14 <Lucifer_arma> heh, still working on that?
07:15 <ToddKitchen> yes :/
07:15 <ToddKitchen> does a recursive chown take a while?
07:15 <Stewie-arma> btw todd why are you in the kitchen?
07:15 <ToddKitchen> cuz it's the fucked up machine :)
07:15 <Stewie-arma> oooooohhhh
07:15 <ToddKitchen> well...not fucked up...antisocial
07:15 <ToddKitchen> i'm trying to teach it to share
07:15 <Stewie-arma> impossible
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> depends on how big the directory is, but it doesn't usually take long here
07:16 <ToddKitchen> heh
07:16 <ToddKitchen> it's around a hundred gigs total...
07:16 <Stewie-arma> it should already know sharing is caring
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> you can tell he's a biology geek, he thinks everything' simpossible
07:16 <ToddKitchen> nothing's impossible
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> well, this esp guy has a bench power supply too
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> I think I need to build that first :)
07:16 <ToddKitchen> we just haven't figured out how to do a lot of it :)
07:17 <Stewie-arma> lol
07:17 <ToddKitchen> cloning was impossible
07:17 <Stewie-arma> C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> then I need to build the adapter for xoscope
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> then I need to buy a decent multi-tester, preferably that can test capacitance and inductance, which could be pricy
07:18 <Lucifer_arma> how do I get some well-to-do relative to give it to me for christmas? ;)
07:18 <ToddKitchen> kiss ass :)
07:18 <Lucifer_arma> NEVER!
07:18 <ToddKitchen> then do without :P
07:18 <Lucifer_arma> problem is, all them bastards insist on knowing something about everything they give you, so they can be sure they got you the right thing
07:18 <ToddKitchen> yep
07:18 <Stewie-arma> here's what I don't get about cloning, we can create something identical to what it was created from, but we can't create an image of it from that dna...
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> can't give them a spec and have them match it based on published item specs
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> Stewie-arma: sounds like you don't get a lot about cloning
07:19 <Stewie-arma> I don't I haven't taken chemistry yet ;P
07:19 <Stewie-arma> lol
07:19 <Stewie-arma> or biology
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> what they do is take some chromosomes and stick it in an egg that was drained of chromosomes, which causes it to be fertilized
07:19 <ToddKitchen> ummm...cloning is more in the realm of biology :P
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> it's not cloning the way they do it in science fiction stories, it's more like real cloning, like in real life
07:20 <ToddKitchen> real life?
07:20 <ToddKitchen> whassat?
07:20 <ToddKitchen> :)
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> REAL LIFE
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> it's where your in-laws won't buy you anything that they don't understand, which means they'll never buy you anything cool
07:20 <ToddKitchen> haha
07:20 * ToddKitchen has an inlaw that practically lives at fry's :P
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> so luck
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> y
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> all I've got is chemical engineers that turned into an accountant and a technical writer
07:21 <ToddKitchen> they've learned...they just give me a fry's gift card and let me go :)
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> see? That's all they need to do!
07:21 <Stewie-arma> Lucifer_arma: then wouldn't those "some" chromosomes have to include a copy of all the chromosomes that were there to create the thing in the first place?
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> Stewie-arma: no shit, sherlock
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> maybe you should read the wikipedia page, I'm sure it tells you how to clone your own sheep
07:22 <Stewie-arma> alright
07:22 <Stewie-arma> lol
07:22 <Stewie-arma> well you said some which doesn't mean all
07:22 <ToddKitchen> you'd better hurry tho... luke-jr is already cloning monkies ;)
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> ? It could mean "all in the cell, but only some of the chromosomes in the organism"
07:23 <Stewie-arma> NO HE ISN'T IT's BLASPHEMY!
07:23 <Lucifer_arma> ToddKitchen: it's not cloning, it's normal reproduction
07:23 <ToddKitchen> i'm not sure reproduction with him could be termed normal
07:23 <ToddKitchen> heh
07:23 <Lucifer_arma> as long as its with another chimp, I don't see why not
07:23 <ToddKitchen> haha
07:23 <Stewie-arma> but that's what got us aids...
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> two chimps fucking got us aids?
07:24 <Stewie-arma> stinking bloody apes
07:24 <Stewie-arma> yes
07:24 <ToddKitchen> didn't get *me* aids...speak for yourself
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> you're going to be so fucked when you get to your biology class
07:24 <Stewie-arma> lol
07:24 * Lucifer_arma is pretty fucked right now
07:24 <Stewie-arma> Lucifer you know I'm joking right?
07:24 <ToddKitchen> fucking is more like anatomy isn't it?
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> yes, you know what I mean! ;)
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> now, what was I doing?
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> before the fucking, that is
07:24 <ToddKitchen> wanting fucking?
07:24 <ToddKitchen> :)
07:25 <Stewie-arma> no fucking is a cuss word which originated from it meaning to have sex
07:25 <Lucifer_arma> heh
07:25 <Stewie-arma> gosh don't you learn anything in schools?
07:25 <Stewie-arma> \lol
07:25 <Lucifer_arma> that's what I hate about fucking, you remember that you had to do something, but forget what it was
07:25 <Lucifer_arma> Stewie-arma: that's the meaning we're using right now...
07:25 <Stewie-arma> stupid slang -.-
07:27 <ToddKitchen> htf do i unlock a folder in kubuntu? :/
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, gathering school supplies and cleaning off this counter
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> sudo chown -R root:users thefolder
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> however, in posix land we don't have folders, we have directories
07:29 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah
07:29 <Lucifer_arma> you may need to do sudo chmod a+x thefolder
07:29 <Lucifer_arma> that gives executable permission to all users, which, on a directory, lets them descend into it
07:29 <Lucifer_arma> directories generally want 775 permissions, so you could do chmod 775 thefolder
07:30 <Lucifer_arma> don't do that recursively!
07:30 <Lucifer_arma> that gives you drwxrwxr-x
07:30 <ToddKitchen> chmod: changing permissions of `/mnt/kitchenstorage/': Operation not supported
07:30 <Lucifer_arma> remove the trailing slash
07:31 <ToddKitchen> same
07:31 <Lucifer_arma> ?
07:31 <Lucifer_arma> ls /mnt
07:31 <Lucifer_arma> ls -l /mnt
07:31 <ToddKitchen> drwx------ 1 root root 4096 2007-08-23 00:35 kitchenstorage
07:31 <Lucifer_arma> did you do sudo chmod 775 kitchenstorage ?
07:32 <ToddKitchen> yep
07:32 <Lucifer_arma> hmm, show me command line and output :)
07:33 <ToddKitchen> todd@kitchen:/mnt$ sudo chmod 775 kitchenstorage
07:33 <ToddKitchen> Password:
07:33 <ToddKitchen> chmod: changing permissions of `kitchenstorage': Operation not supported
07:33 <Lucifer_arma> no way
07:33 <ToddKitchen> way
07:34 <Lucifer_arma> cat /etc/mtab
07:34 <Lucifer_arma> pastebin, probably
07:35 <ToddKitchen> http://pastebin.ca/667634
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> ok, sudo umount /mnt/kitchenstorage
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> then do the chmod
07:37 <Lucifer_arma> then remount it, if it's in your fstab, you should be able to remount it with "sudo mount -a
07:37 <Lucifer_arma> "
07:37 <ToddKitchen> it's not in my fstab
07:37 <ToddKitchen> i don't think
07:37 <Lucifer_arma> how did you mount it originally?
07:37 <ToddKitchen> ntfsmount
07:37 <Lucifer_arma> ah, it's an ntfs filesystem then?
07:37 <ToddKitchen> yep
07:38 <Lucifer_arma> fine, umount it and do the chmod and then remount it
07:38 <Lucifer_arma> that's probably the problem, after mounting, you can't change the permissions on the directory because the ntfs module doesn't support it
07:39 <ToddKitchen> looks the same
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> still says operation not supported?
07:40 <ToddKitchen> no
07:40 <ToddKitchen> did the chmod and remounted
07:40 <Lucifer_arma> permissions still look the same?
07:40 <ToddKitchen> but the ls -l looks the same on /mnt
07:40 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, then it's probably fuse doing it
07:41 <Lucifer_arma> http://man.linux-ntfs.org/ntfsmount.8.html
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> uid=, gid=, umask=
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> Provide default owner, group, and access mode mask. These options work as documented in mount(8) .
07:43 <Lucifer_arma> umount it, then remount it and give it different uid/gid/umask values
07:43 <Lucifer_arma> in particular, give it 002 for umask
07:43 <ToddKitchen> yeah was about to do that
07:43 <Lucifer_arma> :)
07:43 <ToddKitchen> what about the uid/gid?
07:44 <Lucifer_arma> probably doesn't matter, but you'll want it root:root for production use
07:44 <Lucifer_arma> if the umask doesn't fix it, try putting your own uid/gid in there ad see if that does
07:45 <Lucifer_arma> I take it back, you might want it root:users for production use, with a umask of 007
07:45 <Lucifer_arma> which would prevent anonymous access to the filesystem :)
07:45 <ToddKitchen> drwxrwxr-x 1 root root 4096 2007-08-23 00:51 kitchenstorage
07:45 -!- BlackTear [n=blacktea@S01060050bf781fb9.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #armagetron
07:45 <ToddKitchen> that looks better for testing :)
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> :)
07:46 <ToddKitchen> k
07:46 <ToddKitchen> should i have to restart samba or just try from the living room now?
07:46 <BlackTear> Greetings all
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> depends, if you don't mind walking back and restarting samba if it doesn't work, then restart it now :)
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> hi emo boy
07:47 <BlackTear> mmm.
07:47 <Stewie-arma> oh Lucifer_arma you are so witty
07:47 <Stewie-arma> so, so witty
07:47 <BlackTear> so wrong though
07:47 <Stewie-arma> your name is emo
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> totally emo
07:47 <Stewie-arma> actually wait Lucifer you were wrong
07:47 <Stewie-arma> Hey emo girl
07:47 <BlackTear> *sighs*
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> see? totally emo
07:48 <BlackTear> Alright... w/e
07:48 <Stewie-arma> phew for a second there I thought she was going to say *cuts*
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> now, if we show this person the /me command, maybe this person will do /me cut him/herself
07:48 * BlackTear blows Lucifer_arma away
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> hey, were you playing back when punk girl was around?
07:48 <Stewie-arma> woah
07:49 <Stewie-arma> now they are going down on you lucifer
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> man, my wife already blew me away tonight, how much of this do I have to take?
07:49 <Stewie-arma> apparently a lot
07:49 <BlackTear> I know you guys are having fun... but I was hoping you's would be serious for a moment
07:49 <Stewie-arma> ask something then emo girl
07:49 * GodTodd screams in glorious agony as the blade finds its mark along the puffy scar that lines the vein of his wrist and a copious flow of red assures him that he is, indeed, still alive even if dead inside.
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> how likely is that?
07:50 <GodTodd> emo enough for you? :)
07:50 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o Lucifer_arma] by ChanServ
07:50 <Stewie-arma> no Todd it needs to be much much more emo
07:50 -!- GodTodd was kicked from #armagetron by Lucifer_arma [yes]
07:50 <Stewie-arma> aww
07:50 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o Lucifer_arma] by Lucifer_arma
07:50 <Stewie-arma> lol he doesn't have auto rejoin
07:50 -!- GodTodd [n=TheTruth@pool-71-123-207-64.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron
07:51 <Stewie-arma> hmmm I wonder how that happened
07:51 <BlackTear> Alright... I'm losing respect for you gawdly superior Arma folk
07:51 <Stewie-arma> to bad we had no respect for you in the first place (next time choose something less emo)
07:52 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o Lucifer_arma] by ChanServ
07:52 <BlackTear> I just need to know if there's ANY support for problem players
07:52 -!- BlackTear was kicked from #armagetron by Lucifer_arma [yeah, we hate emo kids]
07:52 <Stewie-arma> lol
07:52 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o Lucifer_arma] by Lucifer_arma
07:52 <Stewie-arma> I guess not
07:52 <Stewie-arma> why didn't she check out the forums?
07:52 -!- BlackTear [n=blacktea@S01060050bf781fb9.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #armagetron
07:52 <Lucifer_arma> why didn't she just ask the question instead of going on about respect and shit?
07:52 <Stewie-arma> I dunno
07:52 <Lucifer_arma> normally when you want help in an irc channel, you just ask
07:52 <Stewie-arma> hey emo chick, next time try the forums
07:53 <Stewie-arma> or ask straight away
07:53 <Stewie-arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/index.php
07:53 <Stewie-arma> try asking there
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> and people that are around, want to help, and know enough about the problem and solution to help, will usually answer
07:53 <BlackTear> alright... who's part of the dev team?
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> even if it's just luke-jr saying rtfm
07:54 * GodTodd points to Lucifer_arma
07:54 <Lucifer_arma> are we going to play 20 questions, or are you just going to ask your damn question?
07:54 <Stewie-arma> lol
07:54 * Stewie-arma points to z-man
07:54 <Stewie-arma> oh wait he's never on here
07:54 * Lucifer_arma seems to remember a day when 90% of the people in this channel were developers
07:54 <Lucifer_arma> er, developers for arma, that is
07:54 <Stewie-arma> then it got run down
07:54 <BlackTear> Lucifer... last time I was in, you were very nice... not sure what happened...
07:54 <Lucifer_arma> because 90% are still developers, I think
07:54 <GodTodd> i wish i had some goddamn milk
07:55 <Lucifer_arma> BlackTear: you're taking things more personally now?
07:55 <Stewie-arma> Emo chick did you have that same name?
07:55 <BlackTear> I just need to know if there's any support at all for problem players
07:55 <Stewie-arma> Todd don't we all?
07:55 <BlackTear> yes, I used this name
07:55 <BlackTear> and everyone was nice
07:55 <Stewie-arma> hmm, let's see there's a whole forum dedicated to it
07:55 <Lucifer_arma> besides kicking/banning and polls?
07:55 <Stewie-arma> and this channel
07:55 <Stewie-arma> hmm I wonder if there is
07:55 <BlackTear> banning doesn't work for dynamic IP's
07:55 <Stewie-arma> yeah it does
07:55 <Stewie-arma> you just need to set a range
07:55 <BlackTear> how?
07:56 <Lucifer_arma> most of the real problem players aren't smart enough to get a new IP when they're on a dynamic ip
07:56 <BlackTear> I've got half of miami on a ban range, and my bans.txt is larger than my arma log
07:56 <Lucifer_arma> maybe you should loosen up, then? ;)
07:56 <BlackTear> is there any better way at all?
07:56 <BlackTear> maybe...
07:56 <Stewie-arma> can't you do /ban *.*.73.26?
07:56 <Lucifer_arma> iptables
07:56 <Stewie-arma> or something
07:56 <BlackTear> Ip tables?
07:56 <Lucifer_arma> look, there isn't a way, period
07:57 <BlackTear> mmm okay.
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> it is physically impossible
07:57 <Stewie-arma> lol
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> in an open source app, that is
07:57 <BlackTear> okay.
07:57 <Stewie-arma> yay for open source
07:57 <Stewie-arma> I mean...
07:57 <BlackTear> I didn't think so from what I read on the forums
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> because even if we dream up some way to force every player to have a unique identifier, they can always hack the source and put up fake identification
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> but to protect privacy of all the good apples, we don't really want every player to be forced to use a unique identifier
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> so you have to put up with a little bit of shit, and that's just the way it is.
07:58 <Stewie-arma> btw even in the range ban you can set to /unban ip and it will unban the ip even if it is in the range
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> however, we're open to suggestions :)
07:58 <BlackTear> I just have a player who insists on being very abusive, stealing the clan tag and so on...
07:58 <BlackTear> I've tried letting it slide... really. but it's been ongoing for 3 months
07:59 <Stewie-arma> why not just ban him everytime he does it?
07:59 <Lucifer_arma> ignore him, and he'll stop, or go somewhere else to do it
07:59 <Lucifer_arma> the more you give him attention, the more you feed him
07:59 <Stewie-arma> sooner or later he has to run out of ips, even if it is in a couple of decades
07:59 <BlackTear> that's true.
07:59 <Lucifer_arma> dont' feed the trolls
07:59 <Lucifer_arma> also, there is another way :)
07:59 <BlackTear> but we do pay for our server, and put the time & effort into our clan...
07:59 <Lucifer_arma> depending on how much control you have over your server
08:00 <BlackTear> I'm under Luke
08:00 <BlackTear> Luke Jr
08:00 <ToddKitchen> sorry
08:00 <BlackTear> so... not alot
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> if you have one of those wrapper scripts, it's possible to scan user names when people log in and compare them to a list of known IP addresses
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> so you could scan for the clan tag, and when someone uses it, make sure it's someone *in* the clan
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> if not, ban the ip automatically
08:00 <BlackTear> I don't think Luke will let us get to the base server
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> z-man had something like that setup for awhile
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> if luke doesn't see this as a useful feature......
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> (he's not exactly known for understanding what "service" means ;) )
08:01 <Stewie-arma> lol
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> but it does require a wrapper script to make it work
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> in fact, most of the really useful user control stuff you might want to do requires a wrapper script to do it
08:02 <BlackTear> mmm...
08:02 <BlackTear> I feel somewhat restricted with our server
08:02 <ToddKitchen> just somewhat?
08:02 <Stewie-arma> that's the way you're supposed to
08:02 <ToddKitchen> he's given some control then
08:02 <BlackTear> I can't even get a map rotator setup
08:02 <ToddKitchen> ;)
08:02 <Stewie-arma> Luke has a power control disorder
08:02 <ToddKitchen> yep
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> no, he just has a notinventedhere disorder
08:03 <ToddKitchen> it's cuz his wife controls him in real life
08:03 <BlackTear> I don't know anything about him... we just pay him.
08:03 <Stewie-arma> lol
08:03 <ToddKitchen> i know too much about him
08:03 <ToddKitchen> i'll trade you :)
08:03 <Stewie-arma> well there's your problem
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> man, if I'd have known that 12 years with a woman would result in truly mind-blowng sex, I'd have gotten married sooner
08:04 <ToddKitchen> haha
08:04 <Stewie-arma> lol
08:04 <Stewie-arma> off topic but okay
08:04 <ToddKitchen> sooner and you would have gotten married in alamo
08:04 <ToddKitchen> not a lot of selection there
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> heh
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> true
08:04 <BlackTear> so... basically. with my current setup, I'm screwed...
08:04 <BlackTear> Uhmm..
08:04 <BlackTear> :/
08:04 <ToddKitchen> unless you can talk luke into helping out
08:04 <ToddKitchen> yes
08:04 <ToddKitchen> :)
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> well, tell luke your problem and see if he can help
08:05 <Stewie-arma> unless you talk to luke one on one, yes
08:05 <Stewie-arma> lol
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> he has on occasion really helped, and this is a useful thing that his customers would find generally useful
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> he'd be stupid not to do it
08:05 <ToddKitchen> which means he won't
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> which, I realize, means he won't do it
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> but it's worth asking, anyway
08:05 <Stewie-arma> "<Lucifer_arma> he'd be stupid not to do it"
08:05 <ToddKitchen> he's hurting...i'd demand it as a condition of renewal :)
08:05 <Stewie-arma> think about who you're talking about?
08:06 <Lucifer_arma> hey, sorry, my brain's still not quite together yet
08:06 <Stewie-arma> lol, get a strike going and he might listen to you
08:06 <BlackTear> hmmm.
08:06 <ToddKitchen> now you might be offended by a word like fuck or shit (dick)
08:06 <Stewie-arma> and by might, I mean it's highly unlikely but worth a chance
08:07 <Lucifer_arma> not enough hours in the day, man
08:07 <Lucifer_arma> I'd throw this into armastart, you know
08:07 <Stewie-arma> I know only 24 hours and 2 minutes
08:07 <Lucifer_arma> luke could probably slide armastart into his service pretty easily
08:07 <ToddKitchen> oh... Lucifer_arma...it's promising...it's asking for a pwd from win users now
08:07 <Lucifer_arma> but there's not enough hours in the day right now
08:07 <BlackTear> armastart?
08:07 <Lucifer_arma> ToddKitchen: yay :)
08:07 <Lucifer_arma> BlackTear: a wrapper I wrote :)
08:07 <Stewie-arma> oh you mean 47 minutes?
08:07 <ToddKitchen> so...how do i tell it to not do that? :P
08:07 <BlackTear> Oooh
08:07 <BlackTear> I suck at coding
08:08 <Stewie-arma> thus why you're asking us for help
08:08 <Stewie-arma> lol
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> it adds some really useful things to the server, like a pipe
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> so if you use armastart, you can send commands to it with simple terminal commands
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> it has a few minor bugs, but is otherwise pretty stable
08:08 <BlackTear> oooh, sweet
08:08 <Stewie-arma> again I refer you to http://forums.armagetronad.net
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> like, if the server crashes, it doesn't rotate the log files like it should
08:08 <BlackTear> difficult to find things at the forum
08:08 <Stewie-arma> not if you start a post
08:09 <BlackTear> true
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> what makes it hard is all these people who keep talking about the same stuff over and over
08:09 <Stewie-arma> lol like the clan chat and the registering nicks?
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> so the searches that would otherwise turn up exactly what you're looking for instead turn up repeats of the same stuff
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> well, how many map rotation threads are there?
08:10 <ToddKitchen> 5432
08:10 <Stewie-arma> the next number is 1 todd
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> he's not lying, I'm certain
08:10 <BlackTear> the most I got as far as bans & problem players was you're basically sol
08:10 <ToddKitchen> 89080
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> not really, you just have to remember that problem players are a human problem
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> so by definition, there isn't a technical solution that will completely solve the problem
08:11 <BlackTear> mmm true.
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> the best we can give you is tools to help, but you have to provide a human solution
08:11 <BlackTear> I was wondering if perhaps there's a way to make a server password protected
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> not really, but it's on the list for the next stable release
08:11 <BlackTear> ooo
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> but there's no telling when that'll happen
08:12 <BlackTear> right
08:12 <Stewie-arma> which will be 0.3.1 lol
08:12 <Lucifer_arma> I didn't get any of the coding done this summer for arma that I wanted :(
08:12 <Stewie-arma> none of it?
08:12 * BlackTear sucks at coding so can't help there
08:12 <Lucifer_arma> don't know about the others, except that philippe made a lot of progress on zones v2
08:12 <Lucifer_arma> Stewie-arma: well, some small amount, but not enough to really count as success at anything
08:12 <GodTodd> next version is 0.3.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0
08:12 <Lucifer_arma> I got some of the refactoring needed in acme to make it actually work for what it does now
08:12 <Stewie-arma> lol
08:13 <Stewie-arma> so what does it does now?
08:13 <Stewie-arma> (bad grammar on purpose)
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> but I wanted to get acme refactored enough to create new sound resources and prototype new moviepack resources, and add textures to cockpits
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> well, it doesn't do anything now, which is the problem, but the ui makes you think you can graphically edit maps
08:13 <Stewie-arma> lol
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> and there's a source editor for the raw xml
08:14 -!- root____1 [n=root@adsl-065-006-218-226.sip.mem.bellsouth.net] has joined #armagetron
08:14 <Stewie-arma> and of course by cockpits you mean cockpit and by cockpit you mean incam...
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, that refactoring, if complete, would let me work on the resource system in arma directly, because acme would help me create new resource types
08:14 <ToddKitchen> you and me baby ain't nothin' but mammals
08:14 -!- root____1 is now known as spidey
08:14 <spidey> erm
08:14 <Stewie-arma> yes spidey...
08:14 <spidey> ok so anyone know how i switch channels in irssi?
08:14 <spidey> heh
08:14 <ToddKitchen> hey spidey, you run samba at all?
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> because the sound engine I'm working on every now and then is blocked by work on the resource system
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> ToddKitchen: he runs it under windows
08:15 <ToddKitchen> ba
08:15 <ToddKitchen> h
08:15 <ToddKitchen> useless ;)
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> :)
08:15 <spidey> Lucifer_arma: no...
08:15 <spidey> ffs
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> I admit, I got distracted learning about electronics
08:15 <spidey> how do i do this thing...
08:15 <spidey> -.-
08:15 <ToddKitchen> love, the kind you clean up with a mop and bucket
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: google knows
08:15 <ToddKitchen> lies!
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> which is good, because I don't
08:15 <spidey> i would google if i had a gui
08:16 <spidey> i let luke-jr_ talk me into installing gentoo, heh
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> #google irssie channel switching
08:16 <ToddKitchen> sorry
08:16 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: No matches found. (Search took 0.24 seconds)
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> I can't believe you let luke-jr talk you into that
08:16 <ToddKitchen> no "e"
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> #google irssi channel switching
08:16 <spidey>
08:16 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Search took 0.09 seconds: A Guide to Efficiently Using Irssi and Screen :: f0rked.com: <http://f0rked.com/articles/irssi>; Irssi key overlap: <http://modeemi.fi/~tuomov/ion/faq/entries/Irssi_key_overlap.html>; Ion FAQ – How to: <http://modeemi.fi/~tuomov/ion/faq/howto.html>; This script is no longer maintained, please use trigger.pl instead ...: (2 more messages)
08:16 <spidey> O.o
08:16 * spidey points out the no gui part again
08:16 <spidey> :p
08:17 <Lucifer_arma> alt+n
08:17 * Stewie-arma points out spidey is dumb for listening to luke-jr_
08:17 <Lucifer_arma> like, alt+1, alt+2, etc
08:17 <Lucifer_arma> the answer to your other qustion is "emerge kde"
08:17 <BlackTear> Well, thanks guys for the info & confirmation on things...
08:17 <Lucifer_arma> BlackTear: no problem emo chick
08:18 <spidey> ic
08:18 <spidey> Lucifer_arma: pft
08:18 <Stewie-arma> I wish I could kick emo chick
08:18 <Stewie-arma> lol
08:18 <BlackTear> aww
08:18 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o Lucifer_arma] by ChanServ
08:18 -!- Stewie-arma was kicked from #armagetron by Lucifer_arma [me too]
08:18 -!- Stewie-arma [n=HellBlad@cpe-72-130-168-7.san.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
08:18 <Stewie-arma> ty
08:18 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o Lucifer_arma] by Lucifer_arma
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> np
08:19 <spidey> Lucifer_arma: luke done has :p
08:19 <Stewie-arma> yay for auto-rejoin
08:19 <ToddKitchen> fucking samba :/
08:19 <spidey> 238 packages + compiling them = over 5 hours now
08:19 <Stewie-arma> lol
08:19 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: it took 3 days for my slow-ass duron to emerge kde
08:19 <Lucifer_arma> I'm sooo glad I"m not using gentoo now
08:19 <spidey> heh
08:19 <Stewie-arma> fucking Transmission can only download in increments of 0.8 kb/s
08:20 <spidey> it's on package ike
08:20 <Stewie-arma> per person
08:20 <spidey> like*
08:20 <spidey> 200ish
08:20 <Lucifer_arma> I've been so very happy with kubuntu on my laptop, and it hasn't even been a week yet
08:20 <spidey> pft
08:20 <Lucifer_arma> of course, I've had a couple of months of buildup with my desktop being kubuntu
08:20 <spidey> ubuntu doesn'twork well with ati :(
08:20 <ToddKitchen> i have ati on ubuntu :P
08:20 <spidey> i tried restricted and open sauce
08:21 <ToddKitchen> just for 3d games i had to create a new xgl type login
08:21 <ToddKitchen> sucks but it's a workaroung
08:21 <ToddKitchen> workaround*
08:21 <spidey> ?
08:21 <Lucifer_arma> well, I really wish I could help you with that, but I don't have nvidia drivers installed yet, and I don't have any ati stuff
08:21 <Lucifer_arma> so I've got no 3d gaming right now
08:21 <spidey> in 600x400 i get 90fps
08:21 <spidey> at 1280x1024 i get 13
08:22 <spidey> the response time though is like 3seconds
08:22 <Lucifer_arma> I failed miserably, and then realized with the semesster about to start, the last thing I needed was 3d acceleration on my laptop
08:22 <spidey> so i press a key, and 3 seconds later it responds
08:22 <Lucifer_arma> this is in arma?
08:22 <spidey> didn't try arma, only tremulous
08:23 <Lucifer_arma> ah
08:23 <Lucifer_arma> you know, ubuntu breezy installed nvidia drivers no problem
08:23 <Lucifer_arma> why does feisty have a problem with them?
08:23 <spidey> it has a problem with ati to
08:23 <ToddKitchen> yay!
08:23 <Stewie-arma> I wish I could kick emo chick
08:23 <spidey> i can't even load the gui
08:23 * ToddKitchen dances around.
08:24 <spidey> atleast 6.10 loads the mesa drivers
08:24 <ToddKitchen> ok...now xp can get to the share...how do i make it to where they don't have to put in the guest username? :/
08:24 <spidey> ?
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> add the users to samba using samba's password command :)
08:25 <Stewie-arma> man I really hate Transmission 0.80 (2641)
08:25 <ToddKitchen> it's added
08:25 <ToddKitchen> i want it transparent
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> for the machine, too?
08:25 <ToddKitchen> ?
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> user for the machine?
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> I believe you're aiming to do a mount network share on the xp machine
08:25 <ToddKitchen> not sure i understand...
08:26 <ToddKitchen> i want it to look like it's a windows share
08:26 <ToddKitchen> essentially
08:26 <Lucifer_arma> which makes it a drive, and where you put in the password and it's saved forever
08:26 <Lucifer_arma> I honestly don't know how to do what you're talking about if the stuff I said didn't work, but here's basically what windows machines do for themselves:
08:26 <Lucifer_arma> machine A asks machine B for the share, machine B says "do you have access?"
08:27 <ToddKitchen> ok...it didn't ask again
08:27 <Lucifer_arma> Machine A forwards credentials, machine B checks them (either against its own database, a domain controller, an activedirectory, etc)
08:27 <Lucifer_arma> then Machine B says "Ok, now does your user have access?"
08:27 <ToddKitchen> i'll just have to access it once on karen's laptop then :)
08:27 <Lucifer_arma> or something like that :)
08:27 <ToddKitchen> now if i can get printing shared and the scanner working, i'm in business :)
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> :)
08:28 <BlackTear> Can you actually get windows to access a linux partition/drive? I know I can access the windows from the linux...
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> there's the small matter of getting the files off the ntfs partition and onto a good filesystem
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> BlackTear: yes, you can
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> er, wit, no
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> ok, here's the deal
08:29 <Lucifer_arma> what GodTodd's doing is having a server that runs linux serve up a network share to windows machines
08:29 <Lucifer_arma> if you're talking about local partitions, then no, windows can see linux filesystems
08:29 <Lucifer_arma> *can't
08:29 <BlackTear> okay
08:29 <spidey> luke-jr_: you there?
08:29 <BlackTear> that sucks
08:29 <GodTodd> i'm having linux serve up a windows drive to windows machines to be exact :)
08:30 <Lucifer_arma> haha
08:30 * Lucifer_arma hadn't yet made that connection :)
08:30 <GodTodd> :)
08:30 <Lucifer_arma> told you, man, it was mind-numbingly awesome
08:30 <GodTodd> send her over here then :P
08:30 <GodTodd> haha
08:31 <Lucifer_arma> heh
08:31 <Lucifer_arma> maybe wouldn't be the same for you...
08:31 <Lucifer_arma> see, she's tailored to me now
08:31 <GodTodd> nope
08:31 <GodTodd> better ;)
08:31 * GodTodd is God.
08:31 <GodTodd> :D
08:31 <Lucifer_arma> haha
08:32 * ToddKitchen wonders if BlackTear thinks he is split personality yet...
08:32 <BlackTear> Ooo
08:32 * BlackTear wasn't paying THAT much attention
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08:33 <Stewie-arma> you get used to his split peronality
08:33 <Stewie-arma> it's just that no one has
08:33 <ToddKitchen> that made...ummm...no sense...hrmm
08:33 <ToddKitchen> heh
08:34 <Stewie-arma> hah
08:34 <BlackTear> :)
08:34 <Stewie-arma> maybe you will be the first...
08:40 <BlackTear> Well goodnight all... I'm off to savor some apple crisp...
08:40 <Stewie-arma> bye emo chicl
08:40 <Stewie-arma> chick**
08:40 <BlackTear> I'm not emo though...
08:40 * BlackTear is too old
08:40 <Lucifer_arma> well, I want to build this power supply
08:40 <Stewie-arma> what ever emo chick
08:40 <Stewie-arma> ;P
08:40 <Lucifer_arma> then use a non-emo name
08:40 <Lucifer_arma> we really dislike emos around here
08:41 <BlackTear> why?
08:41 <Stewie-arma> because they suck
08:41 <BlackTear> mmm.
08:41 <Stewie-arma> and need to die before they think they do
08:41 <ToddKitchen> path = /var/spool/samba/ <------- is this a valid printer spool directory?
08:41 <Stewie-arma> it is if your luke
08:41 <Lucifer_arma> Critics cast the fashion as "embarrassing," and the people as imagining or pretending that they lead harsh, painful lives when they actually live in comfortable homes. <--- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_%28slang%29
08:41 <BlackTear> It's odd I've had this name for a while and you guys are the first to connect it to 'emo'
08:42 <Stewie-arma> well you have to admit it is emo
08:42 <BlackTear> perhaps...
08:42 <Stewie-arma> perhaps?
08:42 <Stewie-arma> you're pretty much saying, look at me I'm an emo fag with that name
08:42 <Lucifer_arma> it ws either that or prison slut, which would you have preferred to be characterized as?
08:42 <Stewie-arma> prison slut?
08:43 <BlackTear> so odd...
08:43 <Stewie-arma> I would think that would be more like hott chick
08:43 <Stewie-arma> as a name
08:43 <ToddKitchen> nah...Butch :)
08:43 <Stewie-arma> this is true
08:43 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, a black tear of a tattoo near the eye either means you killed someone, or you did hard time
08:43 <Stewie-arma> I was thinking of female prison bitches
08:43 <Lucifer_arma> er, tattoo of a black tear, I mean
08:43 <ToddKitchen> Stewie-arma: works either way ;)
08:43 <BlackTear> never heard that before Lucifer
08:44 <Stewie-arma> neither had I
08:44 <Lucifer_arma> BlackTear: it's an american thing, I guess
08:44 * ToddKitchen concurs with Lucifer_arma
08:44 * Lucifer_arma has just shown his wilder side
08:44 <Stewie-arma> but I guess he is a wise old fool
08:44 * Lucifer_arma does not have such a tattoo...
08:44 * ToddKitchen won't tell
08:44 <ToddKitchen> :D
08:44 <Stewie-arma> you don't lucifer
08:44 <Stewie-arma> it's a proven fact
08:45 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, closest I ever came to a tattoo was when I tried to put one myself on my ankle
08:45 <Lucifer_arma> that was dumb
08:45 <Stewie-arma> lol
08:45 <Lucifer_arma> nobody told me you had to do it on a fleshy part!
08:45 <Stewie-arma> how were you planning to do it?
08:45 <BlackTear> really...
08:45 <Lucifer_arma> needle and ink, how else?
08:45 <Lucifer_arma> I forget the kind of ink, but it was the right kind
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08:46 * BlackTear tried the needle/ink thing
08:46 <Stewie-arma> yeah cause you're emo
08:46 <BlackTear> that was decades ago
08:46 * Lucifer_arma did it because he was stoned
08:46 <Lucifer_arma> (and it was over a decade ago)
08:46 <Stewie-arma> and lucifer, you learned from you're stonerness
08:47 <Lucifer_arma> the one my wife did is still there, sans the ink anyway
08:47 <Lucifer_arma> found it on her thigh the other day and wondered what it was
08:47 <Stewie-arma> lol
08:47 <Lucifer_arma> that was before she could fuck me silly
08:47 <BlackTear> Stewie - because you perceive my name to be Emo, doesn't make me emo... my IRL name is Spanish, and I'm not Spanish at all...
08:47 <Stewie-arma> and you hadn't noticed it before?
08:48 <BlackTear> So, do not be deceived :P
08:48 <Stewie-arma> HEY, here on #armagetron we judge people by their names
08:48 <Lucifer_arma> well, then you acted like an emo kid. :)
08:48 <Stewie-arma> so you were judged
08:48 <BlackTear> so weird...
08:48 <Lucifer_arma> and that's all we have to go on here...
08:49 <Lucifer_arma> you know, I don't wear a cross because I don't want people to mistakenly think I love Jesus
08:49 <BlackTear> And you are an Angel of Light, Fallen to Darkness?
08:49 <Stewie-arma> seriously if you hadn't noticed we have been going on about your name for what an hour? do you really think we have anything else to do?
08:49 <Lucifer_arma> s/darkness/freedom
08:49 <ToddKitchen> hrmm....should the [printers] entry show up on the smbclient -L localhost -U% listing?
08:50 <BlackTear> oooh, you are bored...
08:50 <Lucifer_arma> fuck if I know, I've never tried to share a printer via samb
08:50 <Lucifer_arma> a
08:50 <ToddKitchen> hrmm
08:50 <Lucifer_arma> heh, not me, I sat down to try to remember what it was I intended to do before going to bed, and failed
08:50 <Stewie-arma> BlackTear: and you had to get this from me telling you? sad...
08:50 <Lucifer_arma> so now I'll be going to bed with a nagging feeling like I was supposed to do something...
08:50 <Stewie-arma> Lucifer_arma, school supplies
08:51 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah
08:51 <BlackTear> mmm...
08:51 <Lucifer_arma> what was I supposed to do with them?
08:51 <Stewie-arma> you didn't say
08:51 <ToddKitchen> buy them?
08:51 <ToddKitchen> make sure what you have?
08:51 <ToddKitchen> make sure what you need?
08:51 <Lucifer_arma> no, it was something to do with putting them somewhere
08:51 <ToddKitchen> steal them?
08:51 <Stewie-arma> something with them, that's all I know
08:51 <ToddKitchen> put them in your backpack?
08:51 <Stewie-arma> kids backpacks?
08:51 <Lucifer_arma> I don't think I'd decided where to put them, and I still had to decide that
08:52 <ToddKitchen> could be
08:52 <Lucifer_arma> no, they're my supplies, and I'm not ready to put them in my backpack
08:52 <Stewie-arma> hmmm
08:52 <Stewie-arma> desk?
08:52 <ToddKitchen> put them up away from the kids?
08:52 <Lucifer_arma> this is the bulk stuff, you put it somewhere and use it to restock your backpack
08:52 <Stewie-arma> drawer!
08:52 <ToddKitchen> oh...build a supply cabinet?
08:52 <ToddKitchen> :)
08:52 <Lucifer_arma> I got all my binders in a big box
08:52 <Stewie-arma> next to the big box!
08:53 <Lucifer_arma> ahhh, now I remember
08:53 <BlackTear> Get a cheap storage shelf in the basement
08:53 <ToddKitchen> see? we're helpful :)
08:53 <ToddKitchen> basement?
08:53 <Stewie-arma> ^_^
08:53 <ToddKitchen> in texas?
08:53 <Lucifer_arma> I put the stuff that's going into my backpack on Sunday into a box, and I had to resolve the conflict between the box and the big carton
08:53 * ToddKitchen is confused ;)
08:53 <BlackTear> mmm?
08:53 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, we don't have basements here
08:53 <BlackTear> Texan's don't have basements?
08:53 <BlackTear> mmm...
08:53 <Lucifer_arma> we have tornadoes, but no basements
08:53 <Stewie-arma> no ToddKitchen it doesn't go in texas
08:53 <ToddKitchen> nope
08:53 <BlackTear> you should with the 'nadoe's
08:54 <Lucifer_arma> ever try to dig a hole in texas?
08:54 <ToddKitchen> Stewie-arma: it should...he's in texas
08:54 <Stewie-arma> Tear, no slang in here!
08:54 <BlackTear> no...
08:54 <BlackTear> Why not?
08:54 <Lucifer_arma> trust me, if you'd tried, you'd rather take the tornado
08:54 <Stewie-arma> ToddKitchen, that doesn't mean anything
08:54 <Stewie-arma> Lucifer you should atleast have bomb shelters
08:54 <Lucifer_arma> but that's not the reason, I'm sure
08:54 <Lucifer_arma> probably has more to do with flood codes than anything else
08:54 <BlackTear> Mmm... okay...
08:54 <Stewie-arma> cause ofcourse we all know how much everyone wants to bomb texas
08:55 <ToddKitchen> Stewie-arma: only in 08
08:55 <ToddKitchen> when bush comes back
08:55 <BlackTear> Texas just gets weirder & weirder with each new thing I learn about it
08:55 <Lucifer_arma> hopefully he'll go back to midland, I hear they're missing an idiot
08:55 <Stewie-arma> naw he'll be on the run by then, probably go to jeb
08:55 <ToddKitchen> our state animal is a smooshed armadillo :)
08:56 <Stewie-arma> and there he'll be over run by hurricanes
08:56 <BlackTear> Well, I'm in Canada... so that explains alot, eh
08:56 <Lucifer_arma> BlackTear: we really have a flooding problem, so basements are impractical
08:56 <Stewie-arma> YEAH, that explains why you're emo
08:56 <Lucifer_arma> ? I thought emos were largely usians
08:56 <BlackTear> Makes sense Lucifer
08:56 <Lucifer_arma> you know, Emorica
08:56 <Stewie-arma> shhh lucifer
08:56 <Stewie-arma> we're trying to mess with her mind
08:57 <ToddKitchen> columbusica?
08:57 <Lucifer_arma> and we've been experiencing our flooding problem something fierce this summer
08:57 <BlackTear> Weather's been weird all over
08:57 <Stewie-arma> I wish I had rain down here in so cal
08:57 <Stewie-arma> #weather 92037
08:57 <Lucifer_arma> of course, it occurs to me that if we had basements, we could use them as buffers for the floods
08:57 <armabot> Stewie-arma: The current temperature in La Jolla Shores, La Jolla, California is 77.0°F (12:00 AM PDT on August 23, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 64.4°F. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008.0 hPa (Steady).
08:57 * Lucifer_arma thinks he'll try to work out that problem in his statics class
08:57 <Stewie-arma> damn I hate overcast lol
08:58 <Lucifer_arma> we just had a number of isolated t-storms that look on the radar like they were tossed up by Dean
08:58 <BlackTear> bet that doesn't work for postal codes...
08:58 <Stewie-arma> Lucifer just make sure there are no windows
08:58 <Lucifer_arma> Stewie-arma: whod' put a window in a basement?
08:58 <Lucifer_arma> what are you going to look at, limestone?
08:59 <ToddKitchen> what's your postal code, BlackTear?
08:59 <ToddKitchen> #list weather
08:59 <armabot> ToddKitchen: cnn, ham, weather, wunder, and wunder rss
08:59 <Stewie-arma> BlackTear: try using your city, state/territory
08:59 <ToddKitchen> #help weather
08:59 <armabot> ToddKitchen: (weather <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city.
08:59 <Lucifer_arma> #weather vancouver
08:59 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Temperature: 62°F / 17°C | Humidity: 67% | Pressure: 30.00in / 1016hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h | Updated: 11:00 PM PDT; Partly Cloudy. High:73 ° F. / 23 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:57 ° F. / 14 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. High:73 ° F. / 23 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:57 ° F. / 14 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. High:73 ° F. / 23 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:57 ° F. (1 more message)
08:59 <ToddKitchen> nope...doesn't for post codes
08:59 <BlackTear> oooh, sweet
08:59 <ToddKitchen> just zip
08:59 <BlackTear> but it does do cities
09:00 <ToddKitchen> but, yeah, city state/province always works
09:00 <Lucifer_arma> #weather Toronto
09:00 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Temperature: 66°F / 19°C | Humidity: 88% | Pressure: 29.99in / 1016hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h | Updated: 2:26 AM EDT; Tonight - Cloudy. 60 percent chance of showers overnight with the risk of a thunderstorm. Fog patches developing overnight. Low 16C(61F).; Thursday - Cloudy. 70 percent chance of showers with the risk of a (2 more messages)
09:00 <Stewie-arma> #weather San Diego
09:00 <armabot> Stewie-arma: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
09:00 <Stewie-arma> grrr
09:00 <Lucifer_arma> man, all the canadian forecasts have a bunch more shit than the american ones
09:00 <BlackTear> #weather Calgary
09:00 <Stewie-arma> #weather San Diego, California
09:00 <armabot> BlackTear: The current temperature in Calgary International, Alta., Alberta is 53.6°F (12:00 AM MDT on August 23, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 44.6°F. Pressure: 30.11 in 1019 hPa (Rising).
09:00 <armabot> Stewie-arma: The current temperature in San Diego, California is 69.8°F (11:51 PM PDT on August 22, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 60.8°F. Pressure: 29.81 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
09:00 <Stewie-arma> overcast everywhere
09:00 <ToddKitchen> they have nothing better to do than feed the weather feed
09:00 <ToddKitchen> :)
09:00 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
09:00 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 78.4°F (2:05 AM CDT on August 23, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 75.2°F. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Steady).
09:01 <BlackTear> ooo sweet name...
09:01 <Stewie-arma> overcast
09:01 <Stewie-arma> lol
09:01 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 88337
09:01 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Tularosa, New Mexico is 76.6°F (1:02 AM MDT on August 23, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 51.8°F. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Rising).
09:01 <ToddKitchen> #weather 75023
09:01 <armabot> ToddKitchen: The current temperature in Near Custer and Parker, Plano, Texas is 81.9°F (2:07 AM CDT on August 23, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 75.2°F. Pressure: 17.72 in 600.0 hPa (Rising).
09:01 <Lucifer_arma> there, it's not overcast in the ass-end of new mexico
09:01 <Stewie-arma> thus why it's the ass-end
09:01 <ToddKitchen> #weather 85205
09:01 <armabot> ToddKitchen: The current temperature in Val Vista & University, Mesa, Arizona is 89.2°F (12:00 AM MST on August 23, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 62.6°F. Pressure: 29.58 in 1001.6 hPa (Steady). Heat advisory in effect until 8 PM MST this evening...
09:01 <BlackTear> Apple Crisp... okay, I'm out. Be happy Stewie
09:02 <Stewie-arma> BLECH ARIZONA!
09:02 <Lucifer_arma> holy shit, arizona has clouds?
09:02 <Stewie-arma> by emo chick
09:02 <ToddKitchen> some days
09:02 * ToddKitchen liked arizona.
09:02 * Lucifer_arma liked arizona too
09:02 -!- BlackTear [n=blacktea@S01060050bf781fb9.ed.shawcable.net] has quit []
09:02 * ToddKitchen was close enough to tempe to have lots of fun ;)
09:02 * Stewie-arma hates it cause all the damn zonies come to Socal for summer and cause tons of traffic
09:02 <Lucifer_arma> all the houses in the air force base had connected yards, so we could run barefoot all summer
09:02 <Lucifer_arma> it was awesome
09:03 <ToddKitchen> that's the other end of the metro from where i was
09:03 <Stewie-arma> brb gunna make soda
09:03 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, out near glendale, iirc
09:03 <Lucifer_arma> #weather luke air force base
09:03 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in 115th and Olive, YOUNGTOWN, Arizona is 92.7°F (12:08 AM MST on August 23, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 34%. Dew Point: 60.8°F. Pressure: 29.57 in 1001.2 hPa (Rising). Heat advisory in effect until 8 PM MST this evening...
09:04 <ToddKitchen> i was south of scottsdale
09:04 <Lucifer_arma> I was in the third grade when we left, so I dont' have a very good orientation on the area :)
09:04 <Lucifer_arma> but I remember it being a lot of fun. :)
09:04 <ToddKitchen> in fact...that's where i met a dude that reminded me of luke...without the weird catholic crap
09:04 <ToddKitchen> er...luke reminds me of him
09:04 <Lucifer_arma> the thunderbirds were stationed there when we were, so I got to watch them practice a lot :)
09:04 <ToddKitchen> cause/effect
09:05 <Lucifer_arma> we'd go out to recess and hear the sonic booms, it was awesome
09:05 <Lucifer_arma> they were still flying f-15s back then
09:05 <ToddKitchen> we could do that in alamo...
09:05 <Lucifer_arma> ? holloman didn't have any supersonic jets stationed, did they?
09:05 <Lucifer_arma> the stealth weren't supersonic, and I don't think the t-38s were
09:06 <Stewie-arma> back
09:06 <ToddKitchen> the f-15s they had were
09:06 <Lucifer_arma> aha, so it was
09:06 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, they did have some f-15s, didn't they?
09:06 <ToddKitchen> yep
09:06 * Lucifer_arma should know, they did a flyover to start graduation ceremonies
09:07 <ToddKitchen> yep
09:07 <Lucifer_arma> and t-38s are supersonic, according to wikipedia
09:07 * ToddKitchen has somewhere at his mom's place an autographed pic of the thunderbird pilots.
09:07 <Lucifer_arma> maybe I was just used to the noise so I don't remember it :)
09:07 <ToddKitchen> could be :)
09:07 <Lucifer_arma> man, 2nd grade, my soccer team went to the state finals, and we came in 2nd place for the whole state
09:08 <Lucifer_arma> the competition just happened to coincide with an air show, so after kicking ass and taking down names in soccer, we got to go see the thunderbirds fly
09:08 <Lucifer_arma> and check out all the cool bombers and shit that were on display
09:08 <Lucifer_arma> it was a 7yo boy's dream
09:08 <ToddKitchen> yah
09:08 <Stewie-arma> man, 3rd grade, my soccer team went to the state finals and won...
09:09 <Stewie-arma> but there were no planes
09:09 <Lucifer_arma> well, we got beat by another AFB soccer team, but we destroyed all the civilian kids
09:09 <Stewie-arma> I am a civilian kid
09:09 <Stewie-arma> (s)
09:09 <Lucifer_arma> ergo, we would have destroyed you
09:09 <Stewie-arma> sure
09:10 <Stewie-arma> do you still play?
09:10 <Lucifer_arma> that is, my 2nd grade soccer team would have kicked your 3rd grade soccer team's collective ass
09:10 <Lucifer_arma> not really. Soccer's my favorite sport, but I haven't really pursued adult sports
09:10 <Lucifer_arma> I'm trying to get my kids interested, though
09:10 <Lucifer_arma> we could do 2 on 2 soccer
09:10 <Stewie-arma> well yeah cause when I was in 2nd grade you were in college I would think
09:11 <Lucifer_arma> that would mean you were in 2nd grade last year or the year before, I think
09:11 <Stewie-arma> darn
09:11 <Stewie-arma> really?
09:11 <Stewie-arma> I always thought you were like 30
09:11 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I started college when I was 31
09:11 <Stewie-arma> lol
09:11 <Lucifer_arma> or 30, or something like that
09:11 <Stewie-arma> hmmm
09:12 <Stewie-arma> I guess it was 8 years ago then
09:12 <Stewie-arma> but still
09:12 <Stewie-arma> 7 for 3rd grade
09:12 <Lucifer_arma> ok, get a time machine so that my 2nd grade team can play your 3rd grade team
09:12 <Stewie-arma> lol
09:13 <Stewie-arma> just let me call up Dr. Who
09:13 <Stewie-arma> oh wait, I remember now
09:13 <Lucifer_arma> we were all from the air force base, and we'd had to defeat the other teams on base before we could move on
09:13 <Stewie-arma> we were playing there
09:13 <Stewie-arma> lol We were the AFB soccer team that beat you ;P
09:13 <Stewie-arma> lol
09:13 <Lucifer_arma> hey, I think I just figured out why my rectum hurt like hell this morning
09:13 <Stewie-arma> went undercover ofcourse
09:14 <Stewie-arma> to much fucking last night?
09:14 <Lucifer_arma> no
09:14 <Stewie-arma> why?
09:14 <Lucifer_arma> I ate some cheese dip yesterday with green chiles in them
09:14 <Lucifer_arma> then went to bed and farted all night
09:14 <Stewie-arma> ...
09:14 <Stewie-arma> lol
09:14 <Lucifer_arma> so obviously I had some juices come out, and since I was asleep, I couldn't wipe
09:14 <Stewie-arma> I hate that
09:15 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, it was so swollen the two sides were rubbing together
09:15 <Lucifer_arma> it really hurt. I went and scrubbed it, not knowing what was wrong, and after half an hour or so it was fine
09:15 <Lucifer_arma> it was just alarming to wake up in that state with no obvious explanation
09:15 <Stewie-arma> scrubbed it?
09:15 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, took it in the shower, got some soap, and scrubbed the hell out of it
09:16 <Lucifer_arma> make sure it was clean
09:16 <Stewie-arma> hmm I didn't know that would help...
09:16 <Stewie-arma> I'll try that next time
09:16 <Lucifer_arma> consider this
09:17 <Lucifer_arma> when you eat something with chiles in it, the chemical that makes them spicy doesn't get completely absorbed into your bloodstream
09:17 <Lucifer_arma> some of it passes on into your stool
09:17 <Lucifer_arma> that's why it burns coming out
09:17 <Lucifer_arma> now imagine that you have a little bit of soft stool waiting to come out, and you fart
09:17 <Stewie-arma> I'm trying not to
09:18 <Lucifer_arma> you could get a very thin liquid bubble that squirts out, and might not even leave a wet spot on your underwear
09:18 <Lucifer_arma> but it could easily throw some of that chile stuff onto the outside of your rectum
09:18 <Lucifer_arma> which would irritate it, and even cause it to swell
09:18 <Stewie-arma> causing the acids to irritate it
09:18 <Lucifer_arma> you know, it occurs to me that I know far more about assholes than I really ever wanted to know
09:18 <Stewie-arma> I try not to think about assholes...
09:19 <Lucifer_arma> speaking of assholes, hey GodTodd (hi there!) , how's the samba printer coming?
09:19 <ToddKitchen> need to find the driver disk :/
09:19 <Stewie-arma> try getting it off the website?
09:19 <Lucifer_arma> haha
09:19 <Stewie-arma> the driver that is
09:19 <Stewie-arma> not the disk
09:20 <Lucifer_arma> so the xp boxes can copy the driver, right? :)
09:20 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, just google up the drivers
09:20 <ToddKitchen> right
09:21 <ToddKitchen> they can add the printer now which was the main thing :)
09:21 <Lucifer_arma> yep, it should all be downhill from here
09:21 <Lucifer_arma> hey, can't you just send over the generic cups driver?
09:21 <ToddKitchen> maybe
09:22 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, there's a cups driver you can give, iirc
09:22 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know why I know this, I just remember that it's an alternative to using the printer's own driver and gives the same performance
09:22 <Stewie-arma> http://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/network_administration_guides/samba_reference_guide/29_CUPS-printing_105.html
09:22 <Stewie-arma> http://www.aboutdebian.com/lan.htm
09:22 <Lucifer_arma> it's also possible you could install a cups driver on the xp machiens and just use cups to print over the network and forget about samba entirely
09:23 <ToddKitchen> not after all this work :P
09:23 <Lucifer_arma> heh
09:23 <Lucifer_arma> wish I'd remembered that minor detail about cups before you started on the printer stuff
09:23 <Lucifer_arma> I've done that before, actually. Just used the cups driver on a win2k box...
09:23 <GodTodd> well....i stil lneeded samba for the file sharing
09:23 <GodTodd> still needed*
09:24 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, of course
09:24 <Stewie-arma> I found this: http://www.linuxprinting.org/driver_list.cgi but I don't know if it has the one you are looking for
09:26 <ToddKitchen> just bugs me that i can't find my system disks :/
09:27 <Lucifer_arma> oh no, my memories were wrong
09:27 <Lucifer_arma> the thunderbirds were flying t-38s when I was a kid
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09:38 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I believe I got all my school supplies gathered up and put in one place
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10:34 <spidey> yawn
10:40 <tramshed> balls
10:40 <spidey> u
10:40 <tramshed> for u
10:40 <spidey> U
10:41 <tramshed> U
10:41 <spidey> Ux2
10:41 <tramshed> u^u
10:42 <spidey> u*U^U*u+x%/U
10:43 <tramshed> unfortunately for you, x=9^-10000000
10:43 <tramshed> SO THESE NUTS ARE FOR YOU!
10:43 <spidey> lol
10:43 <tramshed> im bored as hell
10:44 <tramshed> some jackass stole linux
10:44 <tramshed> <[Esylum]-XL-0001> #25 12x [625M] Ubuntu-5.04-live-i386
10:44 <spidey> ROFL
10:46 <spidey> yay
10:46 <spidey> package 228 of 238! :D
10:46 <tramshed> emerging?
10:46 <spidey> only took 9~hours , i think
10:46 <spidey> i lost count 5 hours ago
10:47 <tramshed> heh, there is something like 500 packages on my system
10:47 <tramshed> big shit too
10:47 <spidey> this was a stage3 install
10:47 * tramshed humps his new computer
10:47 <spidey> luke's doing it on my desktop :D
10:47 <tramshed> yeah, so was mine
10:47 <spidey> s/was/is
10:47 <tramshed> stage 1 and 2 isnt really supported anymore
10:47 <spidey> it's still going, so it's still a stage3-.-
10:47 <tramshed> biootstrapping your system isnt REALLY necessary
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13:07 <Darth_Gimp> where do I log in to the resource area to upload a map?
13:07 <Darth_Gimp> I lost the link
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13:09 <Rebel_Eclipsed> anyone alive?
13:09 <Rebel_Eclipsed> !resource
13:09 <Rebel_Eclipsed> sfigures
13:09 <Rebel_Eclipsed> anyone here?
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13:40 <kidanger[away]> eddiefantastic: are you here ?
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15:51 <MrBougo> is wikipedia freaking down?
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19:01 <Vanhayes> #tea
19:01 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (12/32): <~|luAp|~>, Andrew, D®|Wa!Ze, Luzifer, Master of Luxe, Monkey, s, Zop, ~{GP}~Spot, ¢Tx$afari$kater, ¦×¥ $µazero, °*°MAT°*°
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19:24 <luke-jr_> #weather 38256
19:24 <armabot> luke-jr_: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 99.5°F (12:30 PM CDT on August 23, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: 62.6°F. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015.5 hPa (Falling). Heat advisory in effect until 7 PM CDT Friday...
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19:39 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
19:39 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 91.4°F (12:41 PM CDT on August 23, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 68.0°F. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Rising).
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20:01 <Vanhayes> #weather e5n 5c5
20:02 <armabot> Vanhayes: The current temperature in RHS Weather Station, Rothesay, New Brunswick is 68.9°F (3:07 PM ADT on August 23, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 48.2°F. Pressure: 30.18 in 1021.9 hPa (Falling).
20:02 <Vanhayes> #weather eog 1zo
20:02 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
20:02 <Vanhayes> #weather eog 1z0
20:02 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
20:02 <Vanhayes> #weather e0g 1z0
20:02 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
20:02 <Vanhayes> #saint john
20:02 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
20:02 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 68°F / 20°C | Humidity: 49% | Pressure: 30.25in / 1024hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h | Updated: 3:00 PM ADT; Today - Increasing cloudiness. High 21C(70F). UV index 6 or high.; Tonight - Cloudy. 60 percent chance of showers overnight. Low 15C(59F).; Friday - Periods of rain. Amount 5 to 10 mm(0.2 to 0.4 in). Fog patches developing (1 more message)
20:05 <Vanhayes> #more
20:05 <armabot> Vanhayes: in the afternoon. Wind becoming south 30 km/h (19 mph) in the afternoon. High 17C(63F).;
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20:15 <mkzelda> its nice and cool here
20:15 <mkzelda> #27601
20:15 <mkzelda> #weather 27601
20:15 <armabot> mkzelda: The current temperature in Southall Subdivision, Raleigh, North Carolina is 89.8°F (2:21 PM EDT on August 23, 2007). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 75.2°F. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019.2 hPa (Falling).
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20:16 <mkzelda> #weather 27607
20:16 <armabot> mkzelda: The current temperature in Yates Mill Pond, Raleigh, North Carolina is 88.3°F (2:22 PM EDT on August 23, 2007). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: 59.0°F. Pressure: 17.72 in 600.0 hPa (Falling).
20:16 <mkzelda> #weather 27615
20:16 <armabot> mkzelda: The current temperature in Northwest Raleigh, Raleigh, North Carolina is 87.6°F (2:20 PM EDT on August 23, 2007). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 73.4°F. Pressure: 30.03 in 1016.8 hPa (Falling).
20:17 <mkzelda> #weather 27620
20:17 <armabot> mkzelda: The current temperature in Southall Subdivision, Raleigh, North Carolina is 89.8°F (2:22 PM EDT on August 23, 2007). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 75.2°F. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019.2 hPa (Falling).
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20:19 <Vanhayes> heh 90 isnt that cool to me
20:38 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717\
20:38 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 92.1°F (1:41 PM CDT on August 23, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 68.0°F. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Falling).
20:38 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
20:38 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 92.1°F (1:41 PM CDT on August 23, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 68.0°F. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Falling).
20:38 <Lucifer_arma> 80 in my house :(
20:44 <Vanhayes> 18 in this room of my house
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00:15 <Lucifer_arma> he deletes it, with 2 hours left on a 6GB torrent
00:17 <luke-jr> ...
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01:21 <eddiefantastic> kidanger, you there?
01:58 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, anything to quickly reverse some text?
01:58 <Lucifer_arma> #list
01:58 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Insult, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
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02:37 <luke-jr_> spidey: wb
02:37 <spidey> :D
02:39 <Vanhayes> Feeciv, right now, whos in?
02:39 <spidey> not i
02:39 <luke-jr_> right now is very fast
02:39 <spidey> well
02:39 <spidey> luke, luke can' i play civ? :p
02:39 <luke-jr_> you forgot to say plz
02:39 <spidey> lol
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02:41 <Lucifer_arma> not I
02:41 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, yeah, no, can't
02:41 <Lucifer_arma> working on my computers right now
02:41 <luke-jr_> so is spidey
02:41 <luke-jr_> and I deleted all his pr0n
02:42 <spidey> luke-jr, wanna do this on both servers,next? :p
02:42 <luke-jr_> dunno, maybe
02:42 <spidey> xD
02:42 <luke-jr_> you know how now, rihgt? :)
02:42 <spidey> sorta
02:42 <spidey> you type to fast for me to keep up
02:42 <luke-jr_> lol
02:44 <spidey> and gui is out of the question for them
02:44 <luke-jr_> if they're servers, duh
02:44 <spidey> if it took that long on this box, it'll take weeks on those
02:44 <spidey> heh
02:45 <spidey> btw, there's no sound O.o
02:46 <luke-jr_> o
02:46 <luke-jr_> go into control center
02:47 <luke-jr_> Sound Service or smth
02:47 <luke-jr_> Sound System
02:47 <luke-jr_> set auto-suspend to 0 sec
02:47 <luke-jr_> then go to hardware tab
02:47 <luke-jr_> ALSA sound
02:47 <luke-jr_> for audio device
02:48 <Vanhayes> what are you two doing?
02:48 <Lucifer_arma> ?
02:48 <Lucifer_arma> in KDE?
02:48 <Lucifer_arma> man, disable that arts bullshit
02:49 <luke-jr_> he won't get KDE sound w/o it
02:49 <Lucifer_arma> sure he will
02:49 <Lucifer_arma> he'll get better sound
02:49 <luke-jr_> KDE doesn't support sound except via arts
02:49 <Lucifer_arma> all arts does is an a layer of latency, and then promises to crash often
02:50 <Lucifer_arma> um, arts just provides an OSS and an ALSA interface to itself
02:50 <Lucifer_arma> if you disable arts, then apps using oss/alsa will get alsa directly
02:50 <luke-jr_> and KDE won't get sound period
02:50 <Lucifer_arma> if he doesn't have sound, it's not because arts isn't running
02:50 <luke-jr_> setting auto-suspend to 0 fixes the non-arts apps
02:50 <Lucifer_arma> ok, mr expert, then explain why it is that I disable arts on every box I use, and never have a problem
02:50 <spidey> still no mixer :D
02:51 <luke-jr_> because you don't care about KDE sounds
02:51 <Lucifer_arma> the problem isn't arts, the problem is that the kernel hasn't even loaded the right sound card module
02:51 <luke-jr_> yes it has
02:51 <Lucifer_arma> um, true, but I still hear kde sounds
02:51 <luke-jr_> not w/o arts
02:51 <Lucifer_arma> then why doesn't he have sound? (it's not arts that's the problem!)
02:51 <luke-jr_> cuz he unplugged his speakers
02:51 <luke-jr_> tbh
02:52 <spidey> wait
02:52 <spidey> luke's right
02:52 <spidey> -.-
02:52 <Lucifer_arma> ok, fine, then under your hypothesis, he should have sound with some other application besides kde, right?
02:52 <luke-jr_> he doesn't *have* any other application
02:52 <luke-jr_> except aplay
02:52 <Lucifer_arma> such as mpg123...
02:52 <luke-jr_> and that worked before he unplugged his speakers
02:52 <spidey> now
02:53 * spidey goes to test sound
02:53 <spidey> well i thought is there supposed to be a sound icon?
02:53 <luke-jr_> yeah, it's installing now
02:53 <luke-jr_> see your konsole
02:53 <spidey> o
02:54 <luke-jr_> kmix
02:55 <Lucifer_arma> aumix is better
02:55 <spidey> oh hays. i r dustin. i make music, photoshop, and other stuffs. i like computer. it is best friend. forgive my pour english, im from texas.
02:55 <spidey> haha
02:55 <luke-jr_> wtf is aumix
02:55 <luke-jr_> ...
02:55 <Lucifer_arma> aumix > kmix
02:55 <Lucifer_arma> but you'll never get a kde fanboy to see that
02:55 <luke-jr_> that doesn't answer the question
02:56 <Lucifer_arma> obviously aumix is another mixer application
02:56 <Lucifer_arma> kmix makes certain things a real pain in the ass because it tries to copy the windows mixer too much
02:56 <Lucifer_arma> aumix doesn't, and it makes those things real easy
02:56 <luke-jr_> such as?
02:56 <Lucifer_arma> and it matters when you actually want to do multitrack recording
02:56 <Lucifer_arma> setting the capture device, mostly
02:56 <luke-jr_> omg
02:56 <spidey> luke-jr_: can i use teamspeak atm?
02:56 <luke-jr_> it's so hard to click a red button?
02:56 <luke-jr_> spidey: nevar!
02:57 <spidey> ..
02:57 <Lucifer_arma> now, it's true that kmix finally does it (it didn't used to, that's a recent feature), but aumix is still easier to use
02:57 <Lucifer_arma> the point, luke, is that until about a year ago, kmix didn't have any way to pick the capture device, you could only say capture or not, but not pick a device
02:57 <Lucifer_arma> alsa lets you use any device the mixer knows about as the capture device, but kmix arbitrarily limits you to input devices
02:58 <Lucifer_arma> and then only devices it knows are input devices
02:58 <spidey> ew@ military time
02:59 <luke-jr_> spidey: check the locale settings in kcontrol
03:00 <Lucifer_arma> spidey's used kde before, hasn't he?
03:00 <spidey> long long ago
03:00 <spidey> i mostly use gnome
03:00 <luke-jr_> used*
03:00 <spidey> -.-
03:00 <luke-jr_> lol
03:00 <spidey> yes, used, because if it takes as long to emerge as kde did, screw that :
03:00 <spidey> ;p
03:01 <Lucifer_arma> takes longer
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03:01 <spidey> yea, screw that
03:01 <Lucifer_arma> gnome's got twice the bloat and even less of the useless features kde has
03:01 <Lucifer_arma> although I'm starting to like digikam, for some reason
03:01 <spidey> i always ran smoother under gnome
03:01 <spidey> which is why i started using it
03:02 <Lucifer_arma> weird, it was backwards for me
03:02 <Lucifer_arma> and I hated the gui, on top of it
03:02 <spidey> <3 fluxbox
03:02 <Lucifer_arma> what we really need is a nice qt-based desktop environment that doesn't suck
03:02 <Lucifer_arma> sadly, all we've got is kde
03:02 <luke-jr_> kde4 sucks just as much
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03:03 <spidey> ok which option is this clock thing under?
03:03 <luke-jr_> search for locale
03:03 <spidey> ah
03:03 <Lucifer_arma> you could just right-click the clock on your panel
03:03 <luke-jr_> nope
03:04 <spidey> aye
03:04 <luke-jr_> this is where KDE is stupid
03:04 <spidey> what's that money: thing
03:04 <luke-jr_> rightclicking the clock does not have the locale stuff
03:04 <luke-jr_> spidey: ...
03:04 <luke-jr_> spidey: how you write money out
03:04 <spidey> says Money: $123,456,789.00 / $ (123,456,789.00)
03:04 <spidey> o
03:04 <luke-jr_> this stuff is all formatting
03:04 <luke-jr_> so chang the time formatting
03:04 <Lucifer_arma> ah right, the clock only gives you the timezone, not complete local config
03:05 <luke-jr_> ya
03:05 <Lucifer_arma> it's ok to be buried, though, because you should really only have to configure the locale once
03:06 <spidey> i have to restart kde for the clock to update?
03:06 <spidey> o.O
03:06 <luke-jr_> no
03:06 <luke-jr_> killall kicker
03:06 <luke-jr_> :)
03:06 <spidey> aye
03:07 <spidey> :D
03:07 <luke-jr_> kmix
03:08 <spidey> :D
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03:11 <spidey> ok so
03:11 <spidey> eix packagename
03:11 <spidey> and emerge --ask package
03:11 <spidey> right?
03:11 <luke-jr_> eix searches
03:11 <spidey> k
03:12 <luke-jr_> --ask gives you a proposed install and yes/no
03:12 <spidey> k
03:15 <spidey> spidey@hax ~ $ QImage::smoothScale: Image is a null image
03:15 <spidey> ? O.o
03:16 <luke-jr_> ignore it
03:16 <spidey> aye
03:16 <spidey> it gave another one
03:21 <spidey> ok jabber d/c'd and i can't figure out how to reconnect =/
03:21 <luke-jr_> idiot
03:21 <spidey> ?
03:21 <luke-jr_> moron
03:21 <luke-jr_> its easy
03:21 <spidey> ...
03:21 <luke-jr_> and obvious
03:22 <spidey> grr
03:22 <luke-jr_> I've seen you look over it at least 5 times so far
03:22 <spidey> ...
03:22 <spidey> how?
03:22 <luke-jr_> you've only been spending the past 5 minutes trying to figure out out
03:22 <luke-jr_> and it's right there in front of you
03:23 <spidey> LOL
03:23 <luke-jr_> click the lightbulb again
03:23 <luke-jr_> Online
03:23 <luke-jr_> duh
03:23 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr: heh, that's not an obvious way to do it
03:23 <luke-jr_> it is when he's had the mouse over it 3 times
03:23 <spidey> wtf
03:24 <spidey> how you see what i'm doing?
03:24 <luke-jr_> I told you I was spying
03:24 <spidey> -.-
03:24 <luke-jr_> I think Dreamhost's IM servers are down or smth
03:25 <luke-jr_> wtf are you doing updatedb
03:25 <luke-jr_> you don't even know what it does
03:25 <spidey> updates locate?
03:25 <luke-jr_> ...
03:25 <luke-jr_> ok maybe you do
03:25 <spidey> ...
03:25 <luke-jr_> lol
03:25 <luke-jr_> so what are we doing next
03:25 <spidey> not sure :D
03:26 <spidey> amarok?
03:26 <luke-jr_> that's already goin
03:26 <spidey> o
03:26 <luke-jr_> lol
03:26 <spidey> OUCH
03:26 <spidey> that freakin crashing sound
03:26 <luke-jr_> Kopete has the worst error msgs ever
03:26 <luke-jr_> I guess spidey's sound is working again
03:27 <luke-jr_> spidey
03:27 <spidey> ?
03:27 <luke-jr_> try the menu for TS
03:27 <spidey> what menu?
03:27 <luke-jr_> ok TS sux more
03:28 <luke-jr_> run kappfinder
03:29 <spidey> ...
03:29 <luke-jr_> "TeamSpeak"
03:30 <luke-jr_> capitalized like so
03:31 <spidey> sound driver's in use
03:31 <spidey> and wtf's with this error
03:31 <luke-jr_> running GUI apps in a console gives debug output
03:31 <spidey> o
03:32 <luke-jr_> check Sound Service config
03:32 <spidey> teamspeak uses oss
03:33 <luke-jr_> try now
03:33 <spidey> FFS
03:33 <spidey> volume's still to freakin high
03:33 <luke-jr_> lol
03:33 <luke-jr_> lower PCM instead of Master maybe
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03:36 <spidey> pcm is mic
03:36 <luke-jr_> bs
03:36 <spidey> see
03:36 <spidey> they can hear me now :p
03:36 <spidey> turned pcm up, they hear me, turn it down, they can't
03:36 <luke-jr_> I vote bs
03:37 <spidey> 'er
03:37 <spidey> ok you're right -.-
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04:00 <spidey> luke-jr:
04:00 <luke-jr_> what
04:00 <spidey> aoss next? :D
04:00 <luke-jr_> ...
04:00 <luke-jr_> TS doesn't work?
04:00 <spidey> yes
04:00 <spidey> but it hogs the sound driver
04:00 <luke-jr_> and?
04:01 <spidey> aoss fixes it? :p
04:01 <luke-jr_> aoss doesn't do much
04:02 <spidey> wraps a program in alsa?
04:02 <luke-jr_> your sound card only supports 1 audio stream
04:02 <luke-jr_> at a time
04:02 <spidey> not on windows :p
04:02 <luke-jr_> yes
04:02 <spidey> so why do i listen to music, talk on teamspeak, and have sound ingames then? :p
04:03 <spidey> at the sametime
04:04 <luke-jr_> Win might mix
04:04 <spidey> ...
04:05 <spidey> besides
04:05 <spidey> using this same onboard in ubuntu, i could listen to music and play arma with sound
04:05 <spidey> way back when
04:06 <luke-jr_> arma doent have sound
04:06 <spidey> does so
04:06 <spidey> it makes a chick chick sound when you turn :p
04:07 <luke-jr_> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ALSA_sound_mixer_aka_dmix#Intro_to_dmix
04:07 <luke-jr_> read but dont do
04:14 <GodTodd> hrmm...maybe i'll work on my sound and scanner in a bit :/
04:16 <spidey> heh
04:16 <spidey> i think the sound broke again O.o
04:16 <spidey> oh ffs
04:16 <spidey> luke
04:17 <spidey> if i drop out it's because one of my brothers kiddie friends decided to DDoS us
04:17 <spidey> because he's a dumbass and my brother banned him xD
04:41 <Lucifer_arma> can anybody reach http://gallery.davefancella.com ?
04:53 <spidey> luke-jr_: how do i restart the sound system? or are you usingi t? :p
04:56 <spidey> #weather 38256
04:56 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 81.0°F (10:02 PM CDT on August 23, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 66.2°F. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013.4 hPa (Rising). Heat advisory in effect until 7 PM CDT Friday...
04:57 <spidey> can you believe school let because of a extreme heat advisery?
04:57 <spidey> and it didn't get above 100!
04:57 <spidey> lucky bastards :/
05:03 <Lucifer_arma> http://gallery.davefancella.com/main.php
05:04 <spidey> works
05:05 <spidey> is that your truck?
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> yes
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> it's for sale, if you want it
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: want a gallery?
05:29 <GodTodd> sure
05:29 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: copycat
05:29 <luke-jr_> :p
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> ? what did I copy?
05:29 <luke-jr_> using Gallery for photos
05:29 <luke-jr_> I patented it
05:29 <luke-jr_> :p
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> um, sure, whatever (lots of people use gallery for photos)
05:30 <luke-jr_> sweet
05:30 <luke-jr_> all the more people to sue
05:30 <luke-jr_> :D
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> I picked gallery because it integrates with digikam, and I Just got us going with digikam so my wife can *gasp* organize our pictures
05:30 <luke-jr_> it does???
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> yep
05:30 <luke-jr_> O.O
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> you can export from digikam to gallery
05:30 * luke-jr_ uses both and never noticed
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> dumbshit
05:30 <luke-jr_> u
05:30 <spidey> ROFL
05:30 <GodTodd> hrmm... luke-jr_ wants to sue people for use of "proprietary software"?
05:30 <luke-jr_> it's free software GodTodd
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> gallery's GPL :)
05:31 <luke-jr_> GPLv2
05:31 <luke-jr_> but it's not just for use of it
05:31 <GodTodd> it was a joke based on his saying he patented it and wants to sue ;)
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> well of course, if it was GPLv3, you'd sue them for something dumb
05:31 <luke-jr_> it's for a specific way of using it
05:31 <luke-jr_> that is, to store photos
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> heh, well, gallery was created to store photos...
05:31 * luke-jr_ bets that patent would go through tho
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, it was a dumb joke, can we move on now?
05:33 <spidey> #night
05:33 <armabot> Good night spidey!
05:34 <spidey> luke-jr_: why x11vnc?
05:36 <GodTodd> hrmm...what's it mean when kmix says mixer not found? is that because my soundcard isn't supported?
05:36 <spidey> anyways
05:36 <spidey> #night
05:36 <armabot> Good night spidey!
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: yes and no, it means your soundcard wasn't configured
05:37 <GodTodd> any easy way to fix that?
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> at this point you need to google your soundcard to see if it's supported by ubuntu, and if so, what you have to do about it
05:37 <GodTodd> hrmm...how do i find out the name of it?
05:38 <GodTodd> i've never really paid attention to what soundcard is in that box
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> lspci
05:38 <GodTodd> ah...yeah
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> ok, you need to setup an alias for gallery.toddmacy.com to www.toddmacy.com in your dns dealie
05:40 <ToddKitchen> hrmm...which one is the soundcard?
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> to get your gallery to send email, you'll need to create an email address for it on your mail host (google, right?), then configure gallery to use it
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> pastebin the whole thing
05:42 <ToddKitchen> http://www.pastebin.ca/668814
05:44 <luke-jr_> no sound card there
05:44 <ToddKitchen> i have one :P
05:44 <luke-jr_> 00:0f.0 PCI bridge: Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21152 (rev 03)
05:44 <luke-jr_> maybe?
05:45 <ToddKitchen> that's what i was thinking but not sure
05:45 <Lucifer_arma> holy shit, there's no sound card listed
05:45 <Lucifer_arma> that's the best candidate
05:45 <ToddKitchen> worked fine in windows :P
05:45 <ToddKitchen> heh
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> 00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> is it an isa soundcard, by any chance?
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> isa support was removed in the 2.6 kernel, iirc
05:46 <luke-jr_> wtf
05:46 <luke-jr_> was not
05:47 <luke-jr_> alsaconf supposedly can probe ISA
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> you sure that's all of what lspci has for you?
05:49 <ToddKitchen> yep
05:50 <Lucifer_arma> try lshw
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> cat /proc/asound/cards
05:53 <ToddKitchen> three lines too much for here? ;)
05:53 <ToddKitchen> todd@kitchen:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards
05:53 <ToddKitchen> 0 [CS4236B ]: CS4236B - CS4236B
05:53 <ToddKitchen> CS4236B at 0x534, irq 5, dma 1&3
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2343&highlight=cs4236b
05:58 <ToddKitchen> i'm looking at this one: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=379926
05:58 <Lucifer_arma> the bottom post in the link I gave shows a command line you can work with to test the solution before rebooting
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> sudo /sbin/modprobe cs4232 io=0x530 irq=5 dma=1
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> obviously adjust for your specific card
06:00 <ToddKitchen> do that after editing the /etc/modules?
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> just do it right now
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> /etc/modules is for what it does when you boot
06:02 <Lucifer_arma> then there may be a script in /etc/init.d you have to run, not sure. In mandriva at one point you had to restart the sound service
06:02 <Lucifer_arma> but that was mandriva-centric
06:03 <ToddKitchen> k...i did that line...am i supposed to get something back?
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> no
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> open kmix and see if it sees the soundcard now
06:04 <ToddKitchen> it doesn't
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> what did you do for the modprobe line?
06:05 * Lucifer_arma has learned that it's an isa soundcard, which is why it didn't show in lspci, and also why the autodetection was so bad
06:05 <ToddKitchen> yeah
06:05 <ToddKitchen> :/
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> is it a desktop machine?
06:06 <ToddKitchen> FATAL: Module cs4236B not found.
06:06 <ToddKitchen> same for without the B
06:06 <ToddKitchen> yeah it is
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> I once found it worthwhile to just buy a $10 pci card and toss it in
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> seriously :)
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> I still have it, in fact, but it's not currently in a computer
06:06 <ToddKitchen> that's probably what would be best
06:06 <ToddKitchen> i probably have a few upstairs
06:06 <ToddKitchen> :)
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> would cost more for me to ship it to you than it would for you to just go buy one from frye's :)
06:07 <ToddKitchen> in fact i can probably take the one out of the server upstairs...i don't use the sound there anyways
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> but, as a learning experience.... :)
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> here's the line I'd try
06:07 <ToddKitchen> that one's a soundblaster
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> sudo /sbin/modprobe snd-cs4232 io=0x534 irq=5 dma1=1 dma2=3
06:08 <ToddKitchen> but 4236, right?
06:08 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
06:08 <Lucifer_arma> oops
06:08 <Lucifer_arma> sudo /sbin/modprobe snd-cs4236 io=0x534 irq=5 dma1=1 dma2=3
06:08 <ToddKitchen> k
06:08 <ToddKitchen> then restart the sound service?
06:08 <Lucifer_arma> if there is one, yes
06:09 <ToddKitchen> no go :/
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> heh, get a pci card :)
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> given the choice, it's almost better to put an isa net card in place of the sound card if you have to make that choice (I've had to)
06:14 <ToddKitchen> i don't think i have to choose
06:15 <ToddKitchen> weird part is...if i use modconf, the cs4236 module and lib are activated in the kernel...and if i try to remove them it says it's in use
06:20 <ToddKitchen> ok...i'll probably break into the box tomorrow for that...anyone know how to get a scanner working? ;)
06:20 <ToddKitchen> programs recognize the scanner but can't use it
06:20 <ToddKitchen> is it a permissions thing?
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> what kind of scanner is it?
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> also, you have to be in a certain group to use the scanner, iirc
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I think I just locked the whole world out of my gallery :)
06:22 <ToddKitchen> it's the scanner part of the hp psc 1210xi that i set up as the shared printer
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> as my wife wanted
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> check your config program and see if there's a separate configuration applet for scanners, and if so, run it
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> scanners might be seeing the hardware, but that doesn't mean the hardware is configured for them to use
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> dammit, did this thing come with a usb cable at all? :(
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> wow, I actually don't have enough usb cables
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> this is pretty shocking
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> how do I see if I have firewire plugs without looking at the back of the computer?
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> can someone that's not luke look at http://gallery.davefancella.com and tell me if you can look at any pictures?
06:42 <ToddKitchen> do we have logins?
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> on the gallery?
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> well, first, yours is in a different place :)
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> you have to do the dns thing
06:43 <ToddKitchen> it says to enter your login information
06:43 <ToddKitchen> i was testing yours for you :P
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> mine's supposed to be private, at my wife's request
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> you don't have a login :)
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> ah, see, the "we" confused me :)
06:44 <ToddKitchen> "we" being the ones being asked to try and see the pictures :P
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> so I want to know if you can see any pictures at all, and if so, where are they
06:44 <ToddKitchen> no
06:44 <ToddKitchen> i can't
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> I guess I could logout and test myself, now that I think about it
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> ah, good, that's cool :)
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> now, if you'd like a login, you could register :)
06:45 <ToddKitchen> i will
06:45 <ToddKitchen> :)
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> I have to hand-approve registrations, which is fine since my wife wants it private anyway
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> but it's a pain that it won't send email :(
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> ok, you're activated
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> now I'd like to know if you *can* see pictures :)
06:47 <ToddKitchen> yep i can now :)
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> :)
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06:53 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmm, now I need to fix my website
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07:18 <Rebel_Eclipsed> luke-jr, you around?
07:19 <luke-jr_> yea
07:19 <luke-jr_> barely
07:19 <Rebel_Eclipsed> noticing some differences with the server... everything ok on your end?
07:20 <luke-jr_> /j #armalukechat
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12:23 <spidey> aye
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14:36 <spidey> aye
14:36 <spidey> i need to rethink my freeciv tatics :(
14:36 <spidey> barbarians pwned me :<
14:38 <spidey> luke-jr_: um
14:38 <spidey> luke-jr_: i had sounds in freeciv while playing music
14:38 <spidey> O.o
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15:35 * MrBougo slaps spidey with his own hand
15:40 * MrBougo splats teh spideyie
15:40 <MrBougo> #murder spidey
15:40 <armabot> spidey will get murdered by NeoThermic on Mon Oct 13 20:04:20 1997 because spidey tried to kill one of Lucifer_arma's digitx-s
15:41 <MrBougo> #alias pingrand echo Ping $randomnick Ping $randomnick Ping $randomnick Ping
15:41 <MrBougo> #alias add pingrand echo Ping $randomnick Ping $randomnick Ping $randomnick Ping
15:41 <armabot> MrBougo: The operation succeeded.
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17:00 <Lucifer_arma> #alias remove pingrand
17:00 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
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19:34 <MrBougo> hiho luke-jr
19:34 <MrBougo> wb kidanger
19:34 <kidanger> I have a problem with a script: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34920/ When there is someone on the server it's ok but if all player left, sometimes, it does "Segmentation fault" :/
19:35 <kidanger> The script make a death zone random
19:35 <Lucifer_arma> yay, got a new mouse
19:36 <kidanger> What is the problem ?
19:37 <kidanger> #t fr en je m'explique très mal
19:37 <armabot> kidanger: I am explained très badly
19:37 <kidanger> -très :/
19:40 <kidanger> Can someone help me ??
19:40 <MrBougo> kidanger: bah non tu t'expliques bien
19:40 <kidanger> ah ? :/
19:40 <MrBougo> le problème c'est que personne n'est là :p
19:40 <kidanger> :P
19:41 <kidanger> MrBougo: et tu peux m'aider ?
19:41 <MrBougo> bah non
19:41 <MrBougo> j'y connais rien :(
19:41 <kidanger> le truk c'est qu'il ne faudrai pas que ça execute le script "death" quand ya personne
19:41 <kidanger> :'(
19:42 <MrBougo> :(
19:42 <kidanger> armabot ?
19:42 <kidanger> ba jpense pas
19:43 <MrBougo> P4|away ?
19:43 <MrBougo> si philippeqc était là il pourrait aider
19:43 <MrBougo> Lucifer_arma: ??
19:43 <MrBougo> hows your mouse?
19:43 <kidanger> ouais
19:43 <kidanger> epsy ? pas là
19:44 <kidanger> #lastseen p4
19:44 <armabot> kidanger: P4n1c has last been seen on Fortress Café 3 hours 42 minutes ago.
19:44 <kidanger> aww
19:44 <MrBougo> lawl
19:47 <kidanger> et si je demande sur un autre channel, personne ne connesserai le jeu !
19:48 <MrBougo> bah non
19:48 <MrBougo> laisse ton prbz de côté et attends des jours meilleurs
19:48 <MrBougo> genre demain :p
19:48 <kidanger> :P
19:49 <kidanger> sinon tu ne serai pas où je peux trouver la version "0.2.6_alpha20070804" ?
19:49 <kidanger> xD
19:50 <kidanger> C'est la même que CT Wild Fortress
19:50 <MrBougo> sais pas
19:50 <MrBougo> compiler à partir de la source
19:50 <Lucifer_arma> so, do I give the wireless keyboard and mouse to the kids?
19:51 <Lucifer_arma> or do I give it to my wife and move the wired optical mouse that's in there to the kids' machine....
19:51 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
19:51 <kidanger> eddie devais me faire un deb, mais: "<eddiefantastic> I'm away a few days, contact me then if you like"
19:51 <kidanger> :'(
19:52 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: kids are less likely to "lose" wired peripherals ;)
19:53 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, that's true
19:53 <Lucifer_arma> I'm leaning that way myself
19:53 <kidanger> MrBougo: tu vois, ya du monde ;)
19:53 <Lucifer_arma> they've got a ball mouse right now with no scroll wheel, and it's a pain
19:53 <Lucifer_arma> check this out
19:53 <Lucifer_arma> I bought a multimeter, but didn't get leads, so I can't use it! :(
19:53 <GodTodd> haha
19:54 <Lucifer_arma> got a bredboard, though, so I can actually play with this stuff :)
19:54 <Lucifer_arma> but man, frye's really let me down
19:54 <GodTodd> i should be a semester or two away from needing to frequent the component aisle at fry's :)
19:54 <Lucifer_arma> they didn't have many of the resistors I needed, and the ones they did have, they only had one and I needed 4 :(
19:54 <luke-jr_> wt_f_
19:55 <luke-jr_> why won't some ethernet cables fit in my Thinkpad???
19:55 <Lucifer_arma> heh. That damn physics 2 class. Betcha by the time I take my own physics 2 class, I'll already know all the electrical stuff
19:55 <GodTodd> do they have to build much in physics I and II?
19:55 <Lucifer_arma> but at least I got away with just getting the minimum of what I need to fool around
19:56 <Lucifer_arma> nah, not in ours anyway. You don't build anything.
19:56 <GodTodd> bah :(
19:56 <GodTodd> guess that'll come in digital circuits and stuff
19:56 <Lucifer_arma> see, what happened was they were studying the RC circuit, which is a capacitor and a resistor, and I had to setup the lab, and several things started clicking all at once
19:56 <Lucifer_arma> so I went off quite a bit farther than the class did.
19:57 <Lucifer_arma> I've got a circuit for a variable DC power supply I'm going to build first, so I can use it to test the other things I want to build
19:57 <Lucifer_arma> oh crap, I left without looking at transformers
19:57 <MrBougo> Lucifer_arma, GodTodd, luke-jr, whoever, kidanger needs some help
19:57 <MrBougo> thank you
19:57 <GodTodd> for my associates, all we ever built besides computers was a digital siren
19:57 <Lucifer_arma> since I have to go back for leads (which I'll do after work today, since it's on the way), I'll look then
19:57 <Lucifer_arma> a digital siren?
19:58 <GodTodd> yeah
19:58 <MrBougo> are you guys ignoring me?
19:58 <MrBougo> bah
19:58 <kidanger> MrBougo: ^^ merci
19:58 <Lucifer_arma> no, kidanger hasn't asked his question that I can see
19:58 <MrBougo> he did
19:58 <MrBougo> i think
19:58 <MrBougo> well
19:58 <GodTodd> really annoying and useless really...but it taught us how to put components together to accomplish a task
19:58 <kidanger> heuu
19:58 <MrBougo> kidanger: c'est quoi ton probz?
19:58 <MrBougo> he has written a script to spawn deadzones randomly
19:58 <Lucifer_arma> this mouse needs to be broken in
19:58 <kidanger> [19:45] <kidanger> What is the problem ?
19:59 <MrBougo> and he gets segfaults when the serv is empty
19:59 <Lucifer_arma> heh, that shouldn't happen
19:59 <Lucifer_arma> obviously he needs to modify his script to keep track of how many players are there and not spawn random deadzones when the server's empty
19:59 <MrBougo> well, how can he spawn deadzones if there's no map loaded
19:59 <MrBougo> yep, but he'd like to know how :p
19:59 <Lucifer_arma> but yeah, that's a bug, put it on the tracker
19:59 <MrBougo> kidanger: tu comprends?
20:00 <kidanger> hm
20:00 <Lucifer_arma> kidanger ne parle pas anglais?
20:00 <MrBougo> un peu
20:00 <kidanger> ^^
20:00 <MrBougo> lil bit
20:00 <MrBougo> tu dois tenir compte du nombre de joueurs quand tu spawn tes zones
20:00 <Lucifer_arma> hey, I wound up deciding not ot try to use a foreign language in school, so I'm taking boring classes
20:00 <kidanger> how ?
20:01 <Lucifer_arma> he needs to either connect to the server's stdout pipe, or tail the log file
20:01 <MrBougo> he doesnt know how to test the player count
20:01 <Lucifer_arma> then use a regular expression to scan the lines that come in and look for player logged in/out lines
20:01 <Lucifer_arma> he can't test the player count directly, afaik
20:01 <MrBougo> bah voilà, tu dois voir tes logs ou le stdout de ton serveur
20:01 <MrBougo> oh
20:01 <Lucifer_arma> he's not using ruby in the svn version, is he?
20:01 <MrBougo> this should need to be implemented
20:01 <MrBougo> tu utilises quoi pour ton script kidanger ?
20:01 <kidanger> bash ?
20:02 <Lucifer_arma> he will find his job a lot easier if he switches to python/perl/php
20:02 <Lucifer_arma> seriously
20:02 <MrBougo> là je penses que t'as compris :p
20:02 <kidanger> ok
20:02 <Lucifer_arma> he needs better data structures than bash provides to track players
20:02 <kidanger> Can someone make me a script in php :P
20:02 <Lucifer_arma> but he could just watch for player logged in lines and increment a counter, and decrement it when a player leaves
20:02 <MrBougo> hehe
20:02 * GodTodd has a whole class on data structures coming up ;)
20:02 <Lucifer_arma> that will suit him just fine
20:02 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: and they won't use bash! ;)
20:02 <kidanger> oula
20:03 <MrBougo> Lucifer_arma: it would mess everything up if something goes wrong
20:03 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: nope...java for this one ;)
20:03 <MrBougo> like a ltr char on the nicks, or whatever
20:03 <MrBougo> rtl*
20:03 <Lucifer_arma> nah, the regex itself is fairly simple, I could probably write it
20:03 <MrBougo> i dunno what can bring bugs
20:03 <Lucifer_arma> hte regex, that is
20:03 <Lucifer_arma> anything can bring bugs. :)
20:04 <Lucifer_arma> he's using a patch to spawn the deadzones, right?
20:04 <MrBougo> kidanger: à coup de regex dans les logs ou bien dans le stdout
20:04 <kidanger> C'est quoi ?
20:04 <GodTodd> tho...i'm hoping that the data structures class is done the right way...a way that lets me logically implement the knowledge gained into other languages...such as python :)
20:04 <Lucifer_arma> regular expression
20:04 <MrBougo> des regex?
20:04 <kidanger> oui
20:04 <Lucifer_arma> like what you do with grep
20:04 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: since they're using java, you should be safe
20:04 <MrBougo> http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regex
20:04 <kidanger> aww
20:05 <Lucifer_arma> if it was using c++, you'd probably spend a lot of time dealing with pointers and shit that would just complicate the issue
20:05 <MrBougo> c'est pas trop compliqué les reges
20:05 <MrBougo> regex*
20:05 <Lucifer_arma> not that complicated
20:05 <MrBougo> et une fois que tu connais, c'est un outil merveilleux
20:05 <kidanger> et ca sert a quoi ?
20:05 <Lucifer_arma> this one just needs one wildcard, where the player's name would appear
20:05 <MrBougo> isnt it a wonderful tool, luci?
20:05 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: it's encouraging that there's a whole chapter or two on java dictionaries
20:05 <Lucifer_arma> everything else is constant
20:05 <MrBougo> bah c'est comme les caractères joker (wildcards) mais en beaucoup plus avancé
20:05 <Lucifer_arma> I think the operator you want is .^
20:06 <Lucifer_arma> I could be wrong, though, been awhile since I tried to write a regex
20:06 <Lucifer_arma> so, for example, if the log lines look like this:
20:06 <Lucifer_arma> Lucifer has just logged in.
20:06 <MrBougo> pour "repérer" dans un texte un groupe de caractères qui correspond à un certain schéma
20:06 <Lucifer_arma> Your regex would be:
20:06 <Lucifer_arma> (.^) has just logged in.
20:06 <MrBougo> genre une lettre, deux chiffres, une lettre de A à N
20:06 <kidanger> Et ca changerai quoi ?
20:07 <Lucifer_arma> but the line probably has a player number in it and a timestamp, you need to wildcard the timestamp but keep the player number constant, to prevent players from tricking the script
20:07 <Lucifer_arma> so, for example:
20:07 <Lucifer_arma> [sometimestamp] [0] Lucifer has logged in.
20:07 <MrBougo> bah tu passes une regex dans le stdout de ton serveur oub ien dans les logs, et à partir de ça il compte les joueurs qui se sont connectés, ceux qui se sont déconnectés, et avec une soustraction tu peux savoir combien de joueurs tu a sur ton serv
20:07 <Lucifer_arma> [(.^)] [0] (.^) has logged in.
20:08 <MrBougo> et si c'est 0, tu ne spawnes rien
20:08 <Lucifer_arma> he's better off learning enough python to pull it off, to be honest
20:08 <kidanger> ba je veux bien mais :/ comment je fais ça ?
20:08 <MrBougo> tu devrais apprendre le python pour bien faire
20:08 <kidanger> ah
20:08 <Lucifer_arma> he doesn't have to become expert or anything, just good enough to do what he's doing
20:08 <MrBougo> le bash c'est pas assez souple pour ce genre de scripts
20:08 <kidanger> et php ?
20:09 <MrBougo> whabout php Lucifer_arma?
20:09 <kidanger> je ne connais que ça
20:09 <Lucifer_arma> fine too, perl too. If you've already worked with one of the three, then use the one you've worked with :)
20:09 * GodTodd should get back to work on his recipe program :/
20:09 <MrBougo> php, perl, python, tu choisis
20:09 <kidanger> php
20:09 <MrBougo> si tu connais un peu php, commence sur tes bases
20:09 <kidanger> ^^
20:09 <MrBougo> ça vaut mieux :)
20:10 <MrBougo> i had never thought that i would be some kind of interpreter some day
20:10 <Lucifer_arma> haha
20:10 <Lucifer_arma> I'm understanding most of what he's saying, at least :)
20:10 <MrBougo> good point :)
20:10 <kidanger> enfin je voit pas comment je peux faire :/
20:11 <Lucifer_arma> except that
20:11 <MrBougo> bah apprends déjà le php
20:11 <kidanger> lol
20:11 <kidanger> MrBougo: je connais un peu
20:11 <MrBougo> he cant figure out how hes gonna do it, Lucifer_arma
20:11 <Lucifer_arma> then use php :)
20:11 <MrBougo> vois comment on utilise les regex en php
20:11 <kidanger> aww
20:11 <Lucifer_arma> the easiest way to do it is to write your script to read stdin and invoke it with tail -f thelog | yourscript
20:11 <MrBougo> là tu peux aller voir sur d'autres chans francophones
20:12 * GodTodd wonders how useful it would be to run to his oldest son's school during "meet and greet" time...
20:12 <MrBougo> puisque tu t'es détaché du problème d'arma pour un moment
20:12 <kidanger> xD
20:12 <MrBougo> stdout you mean?
20:12 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: not terribly, but we did
20:12 <Lucifer_arma> MrBougo: no, stdin. Read stdin with his script, then pipe arma's log file to it
20:12 <MrBougo> oh ok
20:12 <Lucifer_arma> and use tail so it'll get new lines as they appear :)
20:13 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: thing is, i usually do that to find out who his teacher is....but since his main teacher is the special ed teacher...that one doesn't change
20:13 <MrBougo> i thought that you meant read the serv stdout
20:13 <kidanger> MrBougo: ba, pour le bash, c'est hoop qui avais commencer le script
20:13 <MrBougo> bah vois ça avec hoop,epsy peut-être
20:13 <MrBougo> parce que moi là je dois y'aller
20:13 <MrBougo> gtg
20:13 <GodTodd> i figure all they're going to do is try and suck money out of me and guilt me into joining PTA
20:13 <kidanger> cu
20:13 <GodTodd> :/
20:13 <MrBougo> byebye
20:13 <Lucifer_arma> heh, probably
20:13 <MrBougo> have a nice evenin'
20:14 <Lucifer_arma> we just did the meet and greet at my kids' school last night, and we blew off the singalong/pat-themselves-on-the-back ceremony
20:14 <Lucifer_arma> I got to meet all three teachers, though, but it was pretty hectic
20:14 * GodTodd has physics, java, humanities and govt II....no freaking time for PTA ;)
20:14 <Lucifer_arma> my daughter's teacher is only in her second year :(
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20:14 <Lucifer_arma> heh, my wife's planning on doing PTA and shit
20:15 <GodTodd> i think fall is going to seem like a break after two calc classes in 10 weeks tho :)
20:15 <Lucifer_arma> I'll get into regular communication with each teacher, weekly (even if it's only an email), and deal with the daytime stuff of course
20:15 <Lucifer_arma> P/T conferences and shit
20:15 <Lucifer_arma> heh, it probably is :)
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20:15 <Lucifer_arma> and my wife will do the PTA thing
20:15 <GodTodd> yeah...we don't have std P/T conferences
20:15 <Lucifer_arma> and the special school events
20:15 <GodTodd> we have IEP meetings
20:15 <Lucifer_arma> IEP?
20:16 <GodTodd> individualized education plan
20:16 <GodTodd> special ed thing
20:16 <Lucifer_arma> ah, ok
20:16 <Lucifer_arma> they should do that for all kids, heh
20:16 <GodTodd> tho i think he's close to 75% mainstreamed
20:16 <luke-jr_> anyone know what RJ45 brands work with ThinkPads?
20:16 <GodTodd> luke-jr_: the sucky ones?
20:16 <Lucifer_arma> apparently my kids' school spreads out all the really smart and talented kids so that every class gets one or two or however many there are,
20:16 <GodTodd> my goal is to have him 100% mainstreamed by middle school
20:17 <Lucifer_arma> then when the smart kids all get bored off their balls, the school tries to get them under sedation
20:17 <Lucifer_arma> if they put all the smart kids together, they could go at whatever pace the smart kids wanted, and then they wouldn't be bored!
20:17 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: but that would make sense :P
20:17 <Lucifer_arma> Although, I have to admit, the idea of separating kids like that could lead to other serious problems, like the development of a caste system (like we had in middle school, remember?)
20:17 <GodTodd> which, of course, means it'll never happen
20:18 <GodTodd> not anymore than all the smart kids taking honors classes would
20:18 <Lucifer_arma> they could graduate every kid with 120+ IQ at age 16 with an associates degree if they did it right
20:19 <GodTodd> yep
20:19 <Lucifer_arma> and every kid from 80-120 IQ could graduate at age 18 with an associates degree
20:19 <GodTodd> i know i spent most of high school bored off my ass hairs
20:19 <Lucifer_arma> all of the core classes I've taken so far have been high school level material
20:19 <Lucifer_arma> and that's like 70% of the associates degree
20:19 <GodTodd> yeah...high school kids wouldn't have had too much trouble with my AAS classes
20:20 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, I have a new plan for how to handle the kids' homework this year
20:21 <Lucifer_arma> I'm going to get them workbooks for the next grade level up, and when they don't have homework, I'm going to require them to work from their workbooks
20:21 <GodTodd> erg...homework...*shudder*
20:21 <GodTodd> yeah...we do that now
20:21 <Lucifer_arma> see, what happened last year is when they didn't have homework, we played
20:21 <Lucifer_arma> so they were encouraged to say they didn't have homework
20:21 <GodTodd> we have been doing that for years
20:21 <Lucifer_arma> well, I was so busy the last school year that I tried to take every spare minute I could to spend with my kids
20:22 <GodTodd> and we got some electronics project things that tommy and i can work on for no homework days
20:22 <Lucifer_arma> heh. Need a multimeter?
20:22 <Lucifer_arma> without leads? ;)
20:22 <GodTodd> he likes science and i want to encourage that
20:22 * GodTodd already has one.
20:22 <GodTodd> *with* leads
20:22 <GodTodd> :)
20:22 <Lucifer_arma> I finally replaced my old analog multimeter
20:22 <Lucifer_arma> it couldn't read less than 1k ohms, so it's virtually useless for the stuff I'm doing now
20:23 <GodTodd> heh
20:23 <Lucifer_arma> also, years ago I blew the fuse in it and put a jumper in its place, and that makes it downright dangerous for what I'm at now
20:23 <GodTodd> truly
20:24 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know if it matters to me anymore if my kids are interested in science. I'll throw it at them anyway
20:24 <GodTodd> heh
20:24 <Lucifer_arma> considering how many people cram stupid religion down kids' throats, I can't see my approach being bad
20:24 <GodTodd> you should make religion an integral part of their education ;)
20:24 <GodTodd> xtian religion that is
20:24 <Lucifer_arma> I will, but later
20:24 <GodTodd> :P
20:25 <Lucifer_arma> right now I want to focus on what-is, not what-if
20:25 <Lucifer_arma> because that's what they can handle :)
20:25 <GodTodd> but christianity is *proven* to be true
20:25 <Lucifer_arma> in your dreams
20:25 * GodTodd thumps his bible.
20:25 <Lucifer_arma> heh
20:25 <GodTodd> :)
20:25 <Lucifer_arma> know what my daughter calls the bible?
20:25 <GodTodd> best selling fiction ever?
20:25 <Lucifer_arma> because you know how all the bibles have in big letters on the front "Holy Bible"?
20:26 <Lucifer_arma> she calls it the Boring Bible
20:26 <Lucifer_arma> she's so awesome
20:26 <GodTodd> heh
20:26 <GodTodd> it's not boring tho
20:26 <Lucifer_arma> I used to read it to go to sleep
20:26 <GodTodd> it's edge-of-your-seat excitement
20:27 <Lucifer_arma> the pornographic parts are, certainly
20:27 <GodTodd> it's got incest, murder, broken rules....man, what *doesn't* it have?
20:27 <GodTodd> :)
20:27 <GodTodd> and that's just the stuff the xtian god *liked*
20:28 <Lucifer_arma> well, we know from the story of Onan that the god of abraham doesn't like bukkakke
20:28 <GodTodd> haha
20:28 <luke-jr_> GodTodd: it doesn't have antepasta
20:28 <Lucifer_arma> I want to build a circuit with my bredboard
20:28 <GodTodd> so do it :P
20:28 <Lucifer_arma> but I really need leads for my multimeter, and I really need a power supply
20:28 <Lucifer_arma> I guess I'm not quite setup for this, but I will be
20:29 <Lucifer_arma> I'll use the bredboard to test the power supply first, and then build that
20:29 <Lucifer_arma> instead of buying a meter, I'll just work my old multimeter into it
20:29 <Lucifer_arma> take it apart, clean it up, then make a permanent installation
20:30 <Lucifer_arma> it's either that or I put an extra set of plugs to plug in my new multimeter
20:30 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
20:30 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Near Custer and Parker, Plano, Texas is 92.1°F (1:35 PM CDT on August 24, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 66.2°F. Pressure: 17.72 in 600.0 hPa (Rising).
20:30 <Lucifer_arma> oh shit, I need to make lunch
20:30 <GodTodd> hmm...might not be a half bad day to mow
20:31 <GodTodd> #weather 88310
20:31 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Alamogordo, New Mexico is 93.2°F (12:31 PM MDT on August 24, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 34%. Dew Point: 60.8°F. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling).
20:31 <GodTodd> #weather 68131
20:31 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Omaha, Nebraska is 75.2°F (12:52 PM CDT on August 24, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 64.4°F. Pressure: 29.88 in 1012 hPa (Falling).
20:31 <GodTodd> wow...cold in omaha
20:31 <GodTodd> #weather 85205
20:31 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Mesa, Arizona is 98.6°F (10:55 AM MST on August 24, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: 62.6°F. Pressure: 29.79 in 1009 hPa (Rising).
20:32 <GodTodd> cold in mesa too
20:37 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
20:37 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 90.9°F (1:41 PM CDT on August 24, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 68.0°F. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012.1 hPa (Falling).
20:37 <Lucifer_arma> I'm happy I remembered we had that snack machine
20:38 <Lucifer_arma> it's the easiest way in the world to make a grilled cheese sandwich
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20:44 <Lucifer_arma> so where do you go when fry's doesn't have what you need in the quantities you need? :(
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20:45 <Lucifer_arma> I just realized the multimeter was supposed to have test leads in it
20:45 <Lucifer_arma> it says so on the box
20:45 <Lucifer_arma> so I guess I'll go back and point this out to them so they can either replace it with one that has test leads, or they can just give me some leads
20:51 <GodTodd> fry's will probably just replace it with another one
21:00 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, probably. Next time I'll look more closely at the package
22:07 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
22:07 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 61°F / 16°C | Humidity: 82% | Pressure: 29.92in / 1013hPa | Conditions: Light Drizzle | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 14mph / 22km/h | Updated: 5:00 PM ADT; Tonight - Rain ending overnight then cloudy with 60 percent chance of showers. Risk of a thundershower this evening. Amount 10 mm(0.4 in). Fog. Wind south 30 km/h (19 mph) gusting to 50 km/h (31 mph) becoming southwest (2 more messages)
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23:31 <ghableska> #weather 50266
23:31 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 75.9°F (4:34 PM CDT on August 24, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 66.2°F. Pressure: 28.87 in 977.5 hPa (Steady).
23:32 <ghableska> #tea
23:32 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (11/32): 1200, flynn, Lêfïõnnåîrê, SpinAce, ToRiTo XXl, `, ~|DS|~sunny, ~|DS|~zion, ~|DS|~|GonZ|~, ¦×¥ FoFo, ¦×¥HoAX
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01:38 <Lucifer_arma> well, they replaced the multimeter with a slightly different model
01:38 <Lucifer_arma> it has the same features, but isn't the one I picked exactly. It uses different batteries and came with a temperature probe :)
01:38 <Lucifer_arma> (no extra charge, so I don't really care, but if it was a slightly cheaper model, I might be a tad irritated)
01:45 <Lucifer_arma> oh good, the voltage regulator I need for this power supply is only 99 cents
01:50 * NeoThermic ponders what Lucifer_arma is hacking today
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01:50 <Lucifer_arma> heh
01:50 <Lucifer_arma> about to hack open an old amp
01:50 <Lucifer_arma> well, maybe not right this minute
01:51 <Lucifer_arma> http://sound.westhost.com/project44.htm <--- I want to build that
01:51 <NeoThermic> #weather 93555
01:51 <armabot> NeoThermic: The current temperature in China Lake, California is 105.8°F (3:56 PM PDT on August 24, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 5%. Dew Point: 21.2°F. Pressure: 29.67 in 1005 hPa (Falling).
01:51 <NeoThermic> woo, I win :)
01:51 <Lucifer_arma> first. so I can use it to power some other things that I want to build before I build the power supplies for those
01:51 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
01:51 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 87.6°F (6:56 PM CDT on August 24, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 68.0°F. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009.0 hPa (Steady).
01:51 <Lucifer_arma> nah, you lose. only 5% humidity? Man, that's nothing
01:51 <NeoThermic> yes, but that means it's pure hot heat
01:52 <Lucifer_arma> actually, it's a bit cooler today than it should be for this time of year
01:52 <NeoThermic> not humid heat
01:52 <NeoThermic> which is ace
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01:52 <NeoThermic> since if you get out of direct sunlight, you can cool down
01:52 <Lucifer_arma> right, which means your body's cooling system works pretty efficiently, provided you don't do anything stupid like take your shirt off
01:52 <Lucifer_arma> but in 52% humidity, it's not as bad as it could be, but it's still a bit nasty
01:53 <NeoThermic> we do get humid days
01:53 <Lucifer_arma> normally we should be high 90s with 60-80% humidity this time of year
01:53 <NeoThermic> but like
01:53 <NeoThermic> only once in a rare bule green orange moon
01:53 <NeoThermic> *blue
01:53 <Lucifer_arma> heh, we rarely drop below 50% :)
01:53 * Lucifer_arma mumbles a bit about how the humidity rating we get isn't any sort of real measurement of how much water's in the air
01:53 <NeoThermic> we also get, on average, 355 days with visible sunlight a year :P
01:54 <NeoThermic> (as in enough to scortch the sun tracker paper :P
01:54 <NeoThermic> )
01:54 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, that's cool
01:54 <Lucifer_arma> we get lots of sunlight, but I wouldn't want to try to guess at how many days of sunlight, because we do get a lot of clouds blowing over us
01:54 <Lucifer_arma> problem is, they blow over us
01:54 <Lucifer_arma> they form somewhere else, then drop somewhere else
01:55 <NeoThermic> we get nothing
01:55 <Lucifer_arma> but like I said, it's been a weird summer. We got flooded, temperatures have been down, etc.
01:55 <NeoThermic> we're in a rain shadow
01:55 <NeoThermic> so no cloud, no rain, no snow, just sunlight :P
01:55 <Lucifer_arma> here's what I don't get, where do these clouds finally drop their rain?
01:55 <NeoThermic> our clouds drop them on the mountains that surround us
01:55 <Lucifer_arma> they don't drop it north of us, unless it's all the way up into canada, because the great plains don't get very much rain either
01:55 <Lucifer_arma> we don't have any mountains around us!
01:56 <Lucifer_arma> they don't drop to the west, that's west texas, which is almost as dry as southern california
01:56 <NeoThermic> http://www.neothermic.com/photography/DSCN0751.jpg
01:56 <Lucifer_arma> heh, I played flightgear using the sanfran airport and flew into the mountains
01:56 <Lucifer_arma> it was awesome
01:56 <NeoThermic> hehe
01:56 <Lucifer_arma> those mountains are some of the only mountains flightgear has that have textures
01:57 <Lucifer_arma> besides the default tiled green (which makes the grand canyon look a little odd)
01:58 <NeoThermic> http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&ll=35.620932,-117.675749&spn=0.752409,1.2854&t=h&z=10&om=1
01:58 <NeoThermic> thats the kind of mountain we get
02:01 <Lucifer_arma> doesn't look impressive from this view, heh
02:02 <Lucifer_arma> it's ok, though
02:02 <Lucifer_arma> I looked at the organ mountains in google maps, and they look positively wussy
02:02 <NeoThermic> yeah, it's just desert and mountians :P
02:02 <Lucifer_arma> but when you're driving into them on US 65, they look pretty intimidating
02:02 <Lucifer_arma> even so, they're kinda wussy mountains anyway
02:03 <Lucifer_arma> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_Mountains <--- the Las Cruces side of them
02:04 <Lucifer_arma> er, I guess that highway is 70, not 65
02:04 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, 65 goes into the sacramento mountins
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03:56 <Lucifer_arma> how many nanos are in a micro?
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04:09 <ghableska> ha
04:10 <ghableska> #g 5+5
04:10 <armabot> blame google for closing their damn API
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04:14 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: 1000?
04:14 <Lucifer_arma> that's what I thought :)
04:15 <Lucifer_arma> either all of my electrolytic capacitors are bad, this multimeter can't properly measure them, or I'm doing something wrong
04:15 <Lucifer_arma> I'm getting good reasons on the ceramic capacitors, though
04:15 <ghableska> nano is 10^-9, right?
04:15 <tramshed> anyone here familiar with phpsysinfo?
04:16 <Lucifer_arma> but I've tested 4 electrolytic caps and I keep getting different readings for each one (multiple different readings on each one)
04:16 <Lucifer_arma> #google phpsysinfo
04:16 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: yes
04:16 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Search took 0.10 seconds: http:// phpsysinfo .sourceforge.net: <http://phpsysinfo.sourceforge.net/>; System Information -- sc8-pr-web7.sourceforge.net --: <http://phpsysinfo.sourceforge.net/phpsysinfo-dev/?template=kde>; freshmeat.net: Project details for phpSysInfo: <http://freshmeat.net/projects/phpsysinfo/>; phpsysinfo: <http://packages.debian.org/phpsysinfo>; Debian -- (2 more messages)
04:16 <Lucifer_arma> not me, sorry
04:16 <tramshed> stupid thing is refusing to see my actual hostname
04:17 <tramshed> http://im.catapultingfeces.com/phpsysinfo
04:17 * GodTodd tries to guess which java ide he'll be using *this* semester
04:20 <Lucifer_arma> I think they're all bad
04:20 <Lucifer_arma> I probably thrashed them when I took them off the board
04:20 <Lucifer_arma> have to be more careful next time
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04:38 <xFlex> greetings
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06:15 <Lucifer_arma> anybody here know about transformers? :)
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08:20 <GodTodd> Uptime: 6 days, 5 hours and 28 minutes
08:20 <GodTodd> heh
08:35 <spidey> 02:49:40 up 158 days, 10:33, 2 users, load average: 1.05, 0.98, 0.67
08:53 <GodTodd> yeah...but is that a laptop? :P
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10:04 <MrBougo> hiho
10:04 <MrBougo> bye
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18:42 <Durka> #hello
18:42 <armabot> Hello Durka :) Quote #30: "Fonkay: Are you afraid of sex? -armabot" (added by spidey at 01:02 AM, November 02, 2006)
18:43 <qxdtz> hi durka
18:43 <qxdtz> fu
18:44 <qxdtz> xD
18:44 <Durka> who are u o_O
18:45 <Durka> #kill qxdtz
18:45 <armabot> qxdtz will die on 08:03 PM, July 06, 2007 GMT due to being stabbed in the eye by Durka
18:45 <qxdtz> ow
18:45 <Durka> >:)
18:45 <qxdtz> #kill Durka
18:45 <armabot> Durka will die on 08:03 PM, July 06, 2007 GMT due to being stabbed in the eye by qxdtz
18:45 <qxdtz> >:)
18:46 <Durka> >:(
18:46 <qxdtz> >:o
18:46 <qxdtz> >:D
18:46 <Durka> :O
18:46 <qxdtz> >:)
18:46 <Durka> >:)
18:46 <qxdtz> >:)
18:46 <Durka> -.-
18:46 <qxdtz> -,-
18:47 <Durka> -.-
18:48 <qxdtz> -,-
18:48 <Durka> P4 smilie:
18:48 <Durka> :}
18:48 <Durka> :{
18:48 <qxdtz> :>
18:48 <qxdtz> :}
18:48 <Durka> ^_^
18:48 <Durka> :\
18:48 <qxdtz> my smile: $_$
18:48 <qxdtz> ;p
18:48 <Durka> x_X
18:49 <qxdtz> oO
18:49 <qxdtz> o_O-O_o
18:49 <qxdtz> o_O-|-O_o
18:49 <Durka> o_O_o
18:49 <qxdtz> http://youtube.com/watch?v=S7y3f297dpE&mode=related&search=
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19:39 <tramshed> farrfrom_, ?
19:40 <farrfrom_> yeah
19:40 <farrfrom_> hi]
19:40 <tramshed> har
19:40 <tramshed> whats wrong
19:41 <tramshed> mind you, I had to put on pants, so Im a bit testy
19:41 <tramshed> heh
19:41 <farrfrom_> nothing i was having a prob but now i am ok
19:41 <tramshed> hah
19:41 <tramshed> good deal
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03:16 <ghableska> #weather 50266
03:16 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 75.2°F (8:19 PM CDT on August 25, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 57.2°F. Pressure: 29.01 in 982.3 hPa (Steady).
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03:44 <NeoThermic> #weather 93555
03:44 <armabot> NeoThermic: Error: timed out
03:44 <NeoThermic> #weather 93555
03:44 <ghableska> :p
03:44 <armabot> NeoThermic: The current temperature in Ridgecrest Heights, CA 93555, Ridgecrest, California is 97.3°F (6:45 PM PDT on August 25, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 19%. Dew Point: 48.2°F. Pressure: 29.75 in 1007.3 hPa (Falling).
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03:44 <NeoThermic> here's me worried that my town melted :P
03:45 <ghableska> hehe
03:45 <ghableska> NeoThermic: are you http://forums.introversion.co.uk/defcon/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=6 ?
03:46 <NeoThermic> Yes.
03:46 <ghableska> ah :)
03:47 <NeoThermic> Why does one ask? :)
03:48 <ghableska> just curious
03:48 <ghableska> I thought the name looked familiar ;)
03:48 <NeoThermic> I'm also http://www.phpbb.com/community/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=96783
03:48 <ghableska> oh
03:53 <NeoThermic> so you a fan of IV's work?
03:53 <ghableska> I liked Defcon and Darwinia
03:56 <NeoThermic> Good. Their two best games IMO :)
03:57 <NeoThermic> Source code wise as well. Uplink is horrid :P
03:57 <ghableska> heh
03:59 <ghableska> #night
04:00 <armabot> Good night ghableska!
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04:00 <NeoThermic> laters ghableska
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04:17 <Rebel_Eclipsed> luke-jr, ??
04:18 <luke-jr_> ??
04:18 <luke-jr_> ./j #armalukechat
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05:12 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/QUARG/rubber/corridor-1.aamap.xml: Resource by QUARG
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05:19 <Lucifer_arma> what do y'all's scores in kblackbox look like?
05:30 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/QUARG/rubber/5rooms-1.aamap.xml: Resource by QUARG
05:56 <spidey> wtf's a kblackbox?
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> it's a game
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> hey, digikam is pretty cool
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> it really does simplify getting the pictures off the camera :)
06:22 <tramshed> my cam used to act as a usb drive
06:22 <tramshed> REALLY simplified getting things off the cam
06:22 <tramshed> cp /camera * /data/Incoming/pics
06:22 <tramshed> err
06:22 <tramshed> cp /camera/* /data/Incoming/pics
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> um, yeah, if you call that simple
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> in my house, that never really happened very much, so the camera sat around unused and full
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> now, I'll be the first to admit that that's not terribly hard, but when you're trying to organize dozens/hundreds of photos, it's really a pain to deal with
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> even with konqueror's fancy album view
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> still a pain
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> now I've got my kids grabbing the camera and taking pictures (which they're not supposed to do!), and some of them are good
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> some are bad
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> so I want to keep the good ones and trash the bad ones (like fingers covering the lens, or pictures that are obviously just random shots)
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> digikam lets me see the pictures on the camera, pick the ones I want to keep, and then clean up the camera
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> more importantly, it makes it possible for my wife to do these things too, so she won't be waiting for me to deal with the camera
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> and then it'll export to gallery, and I just setup a gallery installation for us to use for that purpose
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> my parents sent us a photo printer a couple of weeks ago, and I got that hooked up and running. It'll also print directly from the flash drive in the camera, which is nice
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> so now we have what the corporatespeak junkies call end-to-end integration :)
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06:55 <GodTodd> yay! pbs is done begging for money and red dwarf is back on :)
06:57 <luke-jr> GodTodd sucks
06:57 <luke-jr> spidey said so
06:58 <spidey> yeah
06:58 <spidey> ....
06:58 <GodTodd> at least have the balls to speak for yourself luke-jr :)
06:59 <spidey> Lucifer_arma: sucks too
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> ?
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> #last --from luke-jr --nolimit
07:00 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: [07:02:34] <luke-jr> spidey said so, [07:02:30] <luke-jr> GodTodd sucks, and [00:22:59] <luke-jr> ...
07:01 <spidey> Lucifer_arma: you suck
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: I'm rubber and you're glue and anything you say bounces off of me and goes up your lame ass
07:01 <GodTodd> hrmm...does "hustle" have any meaning in the so-called "drug culture"?
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> yes, why?
07:02 <GodTodd> what's it mean? selling?
07:02 <MrBougo> ... the hell?
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> (it means run a scam)
07:02 <spidey> MrBougo: tell Lucifer_arma he sucks
07:02 <MrBougo> my regedit.exe had disappeared
07:02 <spidey> ...
07:02 <MrBougo> wtf!
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> MrBougo: glad to hear you finally installed linux
07:02 <MrBougo> lawl
07:02 <MrBougo> i have it on a vm
07:02 <spidey> killall X11vnc
07:02 <GodTodd> well...that's not a special meaning...that's what it means anywhere :P
07:02 <spidey> :D
07:02 <spidey> no
07:02 <MrBougo> i have... 3 livecds or something
07:02 <MrBougo> but i dont have it installed
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: then no, it does not have a special meaning that I am aware of
07:02 <GodTodd> k
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> although it could possibly refer to doing a line or shooting up or something
07:03 <MrBougo> i could install some slax on my usb drive, it's easy to do
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> hey, now that you mention it, I think I have heard it used in the context of just a regular sale
07:03 <MrBougo> but now im virscanning
07:03 <MrBougo> i'm worrying about that regedit stuff
07:03 <GodTodd> i'm trying to figure out, short of prostitution (thought that's not out of the question), how a 17 year old makes $5000 in one night
07:03 <GodTodd> heh
07:03 <MrBougo> i've recovered it but i still think that theres some minor problem
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> cousin-in-law? heh
07:03 <spidey> you all suck
07:03 <spidey> except luke-jr
07:04 <GodTodd> yeah
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> several options come to mind, none of them honest
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> mind you, it's not legal afaik for a 17yo to titty dance
07:04 <MrBougo> you suck spidey
07:04 <GodTodd> oh...i'm pretty damn sure it's illegal
07:04 <spidey> you suck more
07:04 <MrBougo> you suck even more
07:05 <spidey> liar
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> are you the poor soul charged with dealing with this particular issue?
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> or just curious about it?
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07:05 <luke-jr_> lol
07:05 <MrBougo> lawl wtf
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> lemme put it another way, the only honest way I know for that to happen is to just ask people that have money for it
07:05 <MrBougo> i cant set quit messages :(((((
07:05 <MrBougo> lemme try
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07:05 <Lucifer_arma> MrBougo: I can set one for you
07:05 <luke-jr_> ...
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07:06 <luke-jr_> [00:11:47] <-- MrBougo has left this server (""testeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehehehe"").
07:06 <MrBougo> omg! it workzed!
07:06 <MrBougo> :D
07:06 <luke-jr_> MrBougo: vnc?
07:06 <MrBougo> huh?
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: for a teenager, that is.
07:06 <luke-jr_> let me VNC you
07:06 <MrBougo> why the hell would i let you do such a thing
07:06 <MrBougo> i can give you shell access to my linux vm
07:06 <luke-jr_> LOL
07:06 <MrBougo> nothing else
07:07 <MrBougo> go to teh hellz
07:07 <luke-jr_> I've passed out root access to a VM befoe
07:07 <luke-jr_> before
07:07 <MrBougo> weeeee
07:07 <MrBougo> congratulations!
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> man, it's a sad day when even Belgians don't speak good english
07:08 <MrBougo> all you would do is delete evrything
07:08 <GodTodd> me?
07:08 <GodTodd> no
07:08 <GodTodd> i'm just nosy ;)
07:08 <MrBougo> and i would recover the snapshot
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> laggy too, apparently, heh
07:08 <luke-jr_> exactly what I did
07:08 <luke-jr_> :p
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07:08 <MrBougo> Lucifer_arma: at least you can understand me
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> understand? hell, I see right through you!
07:08 <spidey> hi losers
07:08 <spidey> ffs
07:08 <spidey> ./ignore self
07:08 <MrBougo> eeek
07:08 <MrBougo> oh through me
07:08 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: yeah...i know it's not from just asking people with money
07:09 <luke-jr_> MrBougo: Lucifer_arma sees you naked
07:09 <MrBougo> can you see my bones?
07:09 <MrBougo> are they ok?
07:09 <Lucifer_arma> I'd ask what she stole, if it were me
07:09 <MrBougo> did i eat my usb pendrive?
07:09 <MrBougo> tell me dr arma
07:09 <MrBougo> jesus
07:09 <Lucifer_arma> because I find it unlikely that a 17yo would manage to make that kind of money prostituting herself
07:09 <GodTodd> well...her myspace page has a pic of her earnings in 8 hours....lotsa c-notes and twenties
07:10 <MrBougo> that ican_do_sex_4u@hotmail.com guy wants me in his contact list
07:10 <MrBougo> i dont have much spam like that
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> MrBougo: add him
07:10 <GodTodd> MrBougo: that's luke
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> hahahahaha
07:10 <MrBougo> once a month people from lebanon and stuff add me
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> hey, don't say really funny things when my wife's asleep on the couch!
07:10 <GodTodd> :D
07:10 <MrBougo> i ask them who they are
07:10 <MrBougo> "i'm <somerandomname>"
07:10 <MrBougo> "and you"
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> the only way I know to make that kind of cash with drugs in one night is with coke
07:11 <MrBougo> fuck offf, who gave you my email
07:11 <MrBougo> "how old r u"
07:11 <MrBougo> where the hell did you get it
07:11 <MrBougo> "a friend told me"
07:11 <luke-jr_> me
07:11 <luke-jr_> spidey:
07:11 <MrBougo> oh, a friend, nice
07:11 <MrBougo> who?
07:11 <MrBougo> "cant tell"
07:11 <luke-jr_> spidey:
07:11 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: btw...the cousin in law is back in vegas and staying put...the in laws aren't exactly upset about it either heh
07:11 <spidey> ...
07:11 <luke-jr_> spidey:
07:12 <MrBougo> then i tell them that i'm ignoring them forever
07:12 <MrBougo> "ok bye"
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> things didn't work out?
07:12 <MrBougo> "moody(k):s"
07:13 <GodTodd> well...again on her *censored* page, she was complaining about only getting high 4 times out here...besides...her dad gets her blunts
07:13 <MrBougo> go fck yourself moody
07:13 <Lucifer_arma> so much for being well-adjusted :)
07:13 <GodTodd> yeah
07:13 <GodTodd> she puts on a good front tho
07:13 <Lucifer_arma> how the hell did she only manage to get high 4 times out here, anyway?
07:14 <GodTodd> dunno
07:14 <luke-jr_> spidey:
07:14 <MrBougo> rofl i remember
07:14 <Lucifer_arma> seems to me like she either wasn't trying hard enough, or she was expecting people to give her too much
07:14 <MrBougo> when my dad started to use the internet
07:14 <MrBougo> he had been a computer scientist for years, but only for servers
07:14 <GodTodd> probably was used to vegas exchange rate...which i'm sure is different
07:15 <MrBougo> and he clicked a goddamn "you are the 500000000000000000th visitor" ad
07:15 <MrBougo> won some trip, whatever
07:15 <MrBougo> problems for months
07:15 <MrBougo> fucking ads
07:16 <GodTodd> tho, as i told the wife, no guarantee that the 5K she gave john was all from the one night...i suspect she'd been saving it up a bit
07:16 <MrBougo> who minds......................
07:16 <MrBougo> shaving?
07:16 <MrBougo> oooh nevermind
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> so hustle is the word she used, then?
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> on her *censored* page?
07:17 <GodTodd> yeah, that's her listed occupation
07:18 <GodTodd> and in the money pic there's a long brown thing in the middle that i have no clue what it is but i think it's the key to understanding
07:18 <GodTodd> heh
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> link?
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> privately, of course
07:22 <GodTodd> it doesn't work in ff...haven't tried konqueror....works in ie :/
07:22 <GodTodd> didn't work in konq either
07:22 <GodTodd> sec
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> I've got ie, send it along
07:23 <GodTodd> getting it....
07:31 <Lucifer_arma> that's a blunt
07:31 <GodTodd> ok...i thought it was something like that...but wasn't sure
07:34 <Lucifer_arma> looks like a very poorly made blunt
07:34 <GodTodd> heh...probably is
07:34 <Lucifer_arma> she needs to get herself a real crip to roll up a swisher
07:34 <Lucifer_arma> never thought I'd say anything like that, but really, in my experience crips roll the best blunts
07:35 <GodTodd> heh
07:35 <Lucifer_arma> works in my firefox, btw
07:35 <Lucifer_arma> but not in my ie
07:35 * GodTodd has never done drugs so is clueless about that ;)
07:35 <GodTodd> hmmm
07:35 <GodTodd> didn't work in my ff
07:35 <GodTodd> but works in my ie
07:35 <GodTodd> heh
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> I do feel a little bit dumber for having read her "About me" page
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> so if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go beat on my forehead until I recover
07:36 <GodTodd> you too, huh? that's a real iq melter
07:36 <GodTodd> haha
07:37 <GodTodd> shortening "and" to "nd" is almost as stupid as shortening "something" to "smth"
07:37 <luke-jr_> smth mssd p w gdtd
07:38 * GodTodd points luke-jr_ to aol where he'd probably feel more at home.
07:40 * luke-jr_ s bsy trnng spdy atm
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> worse yet, she shortened it to nD, which still requires three keystrokes
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> so it's not actually shorter at all
07:48 * GodTodd never said she was *smart*
07:48 <GodTodd> heh
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> no, just hot
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> :)
07:48 <GodTodd> that she is
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> and apparently she agrees with you
07:48 <GodTodd> seems so
07:48 <GodTodd> heh
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> at least since she used flash, it's unlikely that a sexual predator will be able to find her with a search engine
07:50 <GodTodd> true
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> but I have to say, I really hope this gangsta trash language is gone by the time my kids get that old
07:50 <GodTodd> i agree
07:50 <MrBougo> me too
07:50 <GodTodd> it's annoying as hell
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> there's a context where it's actually very entertaining, but I'm not remembering what it was, exactly
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> I think it was one of my wife's friends trying to talk to her step-mom
07:51 <GodTodd> oh...yeah...as a joke it can be hilarious
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> where her step-mom is this so-called liberal white xenophobic lady
07:52 <Lucifer_arma> of course, back then my wife's friends *were* gangsta trash, and the talk wasn't an affectation
07:53 <GodTodd> heh
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> hey, did I tell you I'm fighting with my wife's step mom?
07:53 <GodTodd> not sure
07:53 <GodTodd> what's it over?
07:54 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, did I tell you a month ago or so when my sister-in-law was getting her kid baptized, and my wife's step-mom got all psycho about it
07:54 <Lucifer_arma> ?
07:54 <Lucifer_arma> and she attacked my wife and threw religion in her face and shit?
07:54 <GodTodd> no
07:54 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, not sure there's a quick summary I can give for this, then
07:55 <GodTodd> heh
07:55 <Lucifer_arma> so, when my wife and I met, she told me all these things about her evil step mother and evil step sister
07:55 <Lucifer_arma> I, being the hardcore objectivist I am, took it with a grain of salt
07:56 <Lucifer_arma> over the years I've come to agree with my wife's initial assessment, and to add to it
07:56 <Lucifer_arma> I've concluded the woman's an emotionally abusive person, and that she probably does it as learned behavior (I've met enough of her family to see how they act)
07:56 <Lucifer_arma> so anyway, it turns out that that whole immediate section of the family has had a number of run-ins over religion
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> my father-in-law has taken a fair amount of crap over his choice of church
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> so religion is something of a hot topic with them, which I didn't know, to be honest
07:57 <luke-jr_> you wouldn't
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> my sister-in-law and her husband left the LDS church awhile back
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> and they've taken a lot of shit over it from *his* family, but not from my wife's
07:58 <GodTodd> i take it he's a mormon
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> so my sister-in-law decides to get her kid baptized in my father-in-law's church (episcopal, if you're interested)
07:58 <GodTodd> ah
07:58 <GodTodd> ok
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> my mother-in-law is the only mormon left in the family
07:59 <Lucifer_arma> unless you reach out through too many links, anyway
07:59 <luke-jr_> except for the ones burning in Hell, I think you meaqn
07:59 <luke-jr_> mean*
07:59 <Lucifer_arma> even the mormons in my family are all so distant now that I don't even know who they are
07:59 <Lucifer_arma> dead great-grandparents and 5th cousins and shit
07:59 <GodTodd> right
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, my sister-in-law invited my wife to the baptism
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> then she comes down to do it (they live in plano)
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> she picked the weekend that coincided with my wife's birthday
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> my father-in-law asked my wife where she wanted to go for her birthday, and my wife picked Chuy's
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> her step-mom suggested some other place whose name I've forgotten
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> so about an hour or so before we're all supposed to meet, we get a call telling us we're eating at the place her step-mom picked
08:01 <GodTodd> that's fucked up
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> so we go there, and there are two presents of interest here
08:01 <GodTodd> we let the birthday boy/girl pick ;)
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> one is a card from my father-in-law that was signed with first names
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> my wife showed it to her dad, and her step-mom chimes in with "I guess he's not your dad anymore!", which can credibly be called a joke, right?
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> between almost any other 2 individuals, anyway
08:02 <GodTodd> right
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> but these 2 individuals have a harsh history which includes episodes like the step-sister picking a fight with my wife, and as a result my wife gets incarcerated (treatment center) and the step-sister doesn't even get a slap on the wrists
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> the other gift was from the step-mom, and it was a broken piece of cheap-ass jewelry from TJ Max
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> and during the dinner somehow it's made clear that we're not invited to the baptism
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> which angers my wife because her sister had already invited her
08:03 <GodTodd> for sure
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> so afterwards, we all get home, and my wife calls to find out what's going on, because we had made plans to attend already
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> her step-mom answers the phone and tells her to meet her at TJ Max so they can get the jewelry exchanged
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> while there, she basically attacks my wife, saying our kids aren't well-behaved enough to go to her church, that we don't have any business being in her church, and shit like that
08:04 <GodTodd> what a bitch
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> so my wife freaks out, tells both of them (her sister was there, and my wife spoke up before she could jump in to defend my wife) that the only reason she talks to them is because I tell her too (mostly true), and
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> that she doesn't want to see them anymore, and walks off
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> so when she gets home, she's really pissed
08:05 <GodTodd> i bet
08:06 <Lucifer_arma> her dad calls her up and tries to patch things up, apologizes profusely, and says we're invited, he just didn't think we'd be interested in that sort of thing
08:06 <luke-jr_> he was right
08:06 <MrBougo> baaah its still scanning
08:06 <Lucifer_arma> so I'm pretty pissed too, after sitting at their table for nearly 12 years and watching my food get cold while they all ask God to save them from my wife's step-mom's inability to thoroughly cook a chicken
08:06 <MrBougo> 2 drivesx
08:06 <MrBougo> can someone tell me
08:07 <MrBougo> how its possible to get surround from stereo...
08:07 <Lucifer_arma> so I decide I deserve better, and invitation or not, I'm not going to this baptism, and I don't go
08:07 <MrBougo> thats just like getting 3d from 2d
08:07 <GodTodd> i wouldn't either
08:07 <Lucifer_arma> my wife doesn't want to take all three kids, so she takes my daughter and leaves the other two at home with me
08:07 <Lucifer_arma> now, a little aside
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> our attitude about religion doesn't mean the kids can't go to church, and a baptism is exactly the kind of ceremony that we want them to attend when it's a family event
08:08 <GodTodd> exactly
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> one thing it gives us is the opportunity to show the kids religion in one of its very few good lights, and also to teach them to act like Romans when they're in Rome
08:09 <GodTodd> yep teach them to act appropriately even when they don't understand why it's that way ;)
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> and it's the sort of thing we view that's like a wedding, or a funeral, or what-have-you. we went to my sister-in-law's sending off when she was going on her mission....
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> (before the left the LDS church, of course)
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> *LSD church
08:09 <GodTodd> of course
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> so my wife, taking this approach, tells my dauhter to stand when everybody stands, sit when everybody sits, and pay attention
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> don't talk during the ceremony, etc.
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> when they get there, the step-mom sits next to my daughter and immediately tries to spend the ceremony talking to her
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> tries to get her to color on the program, and tries to tell her not to sit/stand/whatever with everyone else
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> my daughter, being the good girl she is, didn't listen to her
08:10 <GodTodd> haha
08:11 <GodTodd> good :)
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> the whole next week, the step-mom sustains her attack on my wife, at one point telling my wife that it's nice that I'm so individualistic, but I would never go anywhere
08:12 <Lucifer_arma> my sister-in-law's husband (is he my brother-in-law?) gets involved and mediates those two's conflict, so they work it out
08:12 <GodTodd> yeah...because free-thinkers *never* amount to anything...
08:12 <Lucifer_arma> the sister-in-law does take the last couple of jabs that are required to complete the circle of abuse, but you've gotta keep in mind that she's only recently started the healing process
08:12 <Lucifer_arma> my wife's been healing since we got married, but her sister has only recently started
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> (they both suffered the same abuse as kids from their mother)
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> (and the step-mom in this story)
08:13 <GodTodd> i wouldn't doubt it
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> but see, they reacted outwardly quite differently, so that everyone really thinks her sister's the good kid and my wife's the bad kid
08:14 <GodTodd> when it's just how each dealt with the abuse
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> which put my wife in the unfortunate position of being everybody's scapegoat
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> so I kept telling my wife that she needs to actually confront these people
08:15 <GodTodd> yep
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> see, for the most of our married life together, her mother was the #1 problem, and she continued some serious abuse for quite some time
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> so we focused on that, and I'm happy to say that at this time her mother is no longer abusing her
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> she's still crazy, but she's no longer abusive
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> so when her step-mom steps up, now she's the #1 problem, and we're in a position to deal with it
08:16 <GodTodd> a lot of times the abuser (in emotional abuse anyway) doesn't even realize what they're doing
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> because dealing with both of them at the same time would have been overwhelming
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> we're talking purely emotional abuse
08:16 <GodTodd> right
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> no sexual or physical
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> not that there wsn't sexual abuse, it just didn't come from her family when it came
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> bad pun not intended
08:16 <GodTodd> that's the hardest because it hurts more long term and the abuser may not even realize they're abusing
08:17 <Lucifer_arma> no physical abuse, though
08:17 <GodTodd> like luke-jr_ ;)
08:17 <Lucifer_arma> yep, exactly
08:17 <Lucifer_arma> and yes, just like luke-jr (hi there!)
08:17 <Lucifer_arma> so at this point, the step-mom has completely worn out the small amount of trust she'd managed to build over the years, and my wife needs to confront her
08:17 <GodTodd> yep
08:17 <Lucifer_arma> my wife also needs to confront her dad, but that's not a big deal. His biggest crime is not standing up to his wife
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> so what does my wife do?
08:18 <GodTodd> only two ways it can go and they're both better than status quo
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> she fucking wusses out!
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> she's getting all two-faced now, and with me we're both agreeing we can't trust the step-mom and that we need to take steps to protect our kids
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> well, today I had to actually enact those steps
08:19 <Lucifer_arma> we were at barnes and noble, and the step-mom is hanging out with my daughter, so I am too, watching her like a hawk (the step-mom, my daughter is very trustworthy)
08:19 <GodTodd> right
08:20 <Lucifer_arma> all of a sudden, with no outward signs of anything going on, the step-mom whispers something in my daughter's ear, and then takes her hand and walks off
08:20 <Lucifer_arma> she turns back to tell me "You can't come with us"
08:20 <GodTodd> i'd say "hell no"
08:20 <GodTodd> :)
08:20 <Lucifer_arma> now, I didn't really think she was going to do anything horrible
08:20 <Lucifer_arma> and I have to admit she took me by surprise
08:20 <Lucifer_arma> so when they got back, which was only a few minutes afterwards, I told her if I can't go, she can't take my daughter there either
08:21 <Lucifer_arma> it turned out to be a bathroom break, but there are still several parts of the event that just don't go right
08:21 <GodTodd> well...couldn't she at least *tell* you...without being so secretive?
08:21 <Lucifer_arma> one is that you don't just ask a kid randomly if they need to go to the bathroom. If her reasoning was that my dauhter had been having problems with that previously,
08:22 <Lucifer_arma> it doesn't add up because it was proven pretty much completely that my daughter only has that problem when she's in the care of people who don't listen to kids
08:22 <GodTodd> i only ask my son if he does the potty dance
08:22 <Lucifer_arma> and yes, you put your finger on the real problem. Not only should she have told me because it was the right thing to do, but I have previously explicitly instructed her that that's what she needs to do
08:22 <GodTodd> i agree
08:22 <Lucifer_arma> right, well, after what happened last year at the school, we've been spending the summer getting my daughter to not be shy about telling people she needs to go
08:23 <Lucifer_arma> and to not wait until the last minute
08:23 <GodTodd> my wife's parents don't take the kids anywhere without telling me first
08:23 <Lucifer_arma> if you recall, we weren't aware she was even having a problem going to the bathroom, because she didn't have those problems at home,
08:23 <GodTodd> right
08:23 <Lucifer_arma> or when we go out to eat, or any places we went
08:23 <Lucifer_arma> but she has had that problem with the step-mom
08:24 <Lucifer_arma> so the step-mom got all mad that I didn't trust her anymore
08:24 <Lucifer_arma> now, I haven't told you the part where the step-mom comes to my wife and apologizes for the sustained attack
08:24 <GodTodd> just tell the step mom that if she has a problem telling you where she's taking your kid/s that you *can* institute a sign in/out procedure ;)
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> I also haven't told you the part where the step-mom apologizes for giving my kids random access to candy at her house (a fact I wasn't aware of until recently, which is also contrary to my explicit instructions)
08:25 <GodTodd> yeah...candy bad
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> I haven't told you those parts of the story because they *haven't happened*
08:25 <GodTodd> heh
08:26 <GodTodd> i guess i got lucky with in laws....they follow instructions very well ;)
08:26 <Lucifer_arma> man
08:26 <Lucifer_arma> my parents would never do any of that shit
08:26 <GodTodd> well...the religion thing never really comes up around us because my father in law is an atheis
08:26 <GodTodd> t
08:26 <Lucifer_arma> as it happens, the only person in the family who likes this woman is her husband
08:27 <Lucifer_arma> well, my parents are christians, and the religion thing doesn't come up with them
08:27 <GodTodd> that's the best kind of christian
08:27 <Lucifer_arma> my wife told me earlier that she thinks religion is something you're not supposed to talk about, she thinks it's a taboo subject
08:27 <GodTodd> the ones that keep it to themselves :)
08:27 <Lucifer_arma> heh
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> I told her I disagreed, religion is something you shouldn't have to talk about
08:28 <GodTodd> it's not taboo...should just be an open discussion
08:28 <GodTodd> not closed and can only go one way
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> which requires work. You have to have a certain amount of tolerance, and a certain amount of acceptance, but most importantly,
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> you have to talk about it and know what other people think
08:28 <GodTodd> exactly
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> my father-in-law says he wasn't going to invite us because he didn't think we'd be interested (to the baptism)
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> wtf? why wouldn't we be interested?
08:29 <GodTodd> he should invite you anyway....give *you* that choice
08:29 <Lucifer_arma> it's very simple, if the religiously oriented ceremony is something you'd normally invite everyone in your family who goes to your church, then it's something you should normally invite everyone in your family
08:29 <GodTodd> even if he said "you may not be interested but..." yada yada
08:29 <Lucifer_arma> what's so hard to understand about that?
08:29 <Lucifer_arma> as you say, it should be our choice.
08:29 <GodTodd> yep
08:29 <Lucifer_arma> if they really genuinely want us there, it should be our choice
08:30 <GodTodd> i agree totally
08:30 <Lucifer_arma> but if they really genuinely want us there, we should go, that's what family does
08:30 <GodTodd> if they don't invite you it is an unspoken "fuck you, stay away"
08:30 <Lucifer_arma> we should *gasp* set aside our differences and go there
08:30 <Lucifer_arma> well, there's more to it, the step-mom explicitly cited our religious views and said we were completely unwelcome
08:31 <GodTodd> ok...that's a *spoken* "fuck you, stay away" ;)
08:31 <Lucifer_arma> yep
08:31 <Lucifer_arma> now, it's a guarantee that she went home and only told my father-in-law what my wife said
08:31 <GodTodd> in which case, i'd stay away totally and wait for the questions from the ones that *did* genuinely want you there
08:32 <GodTodd> to which questions they'd get totally honest answers
08:32 <GodTodd> but then, i lean toward passive aggressiveness ;)
08:33 <Lucifer_arma> I prefer to let problems resolve themselves and not stick my hand in it
08:33 <GodTodd> well...in my mind, going would stick my hand in it
08:34 <GodTodd> :)
08:34 <Lucifer_arma> there are very few of the problems I've stuck my hand in that were resolved that I can say sticking my hand in was necessary for it to be resolved
08:34 <GodTodd> that's usually the case
08:34 <Lucifer_arma> nobody over there knows yet that my unattendance was a protest to the attack
08:35 <GodTodd> kind of like changing history...it's likely the same stuff will happen and by meddling you'll just delay the resolution
08:35 <Lucifer_arma> so, if the religion thing is to be taken as the fundamental problem (which I don't think it is), the executive summary is that after taking all this trash for their choice of churches,
08:35 <GodTodd> i just wouldn't lie and say that one of the boys was sick or something...if asked i would tell the truth
08:36 <GodTodd> :)
08:36 <Lucifer_arma> my wife's father and his wife have turned around and given trash to us. Have they learned nothing?
08:36 <Lucifer_arma> well, nobody's asked
08:36 <GodTodd> right
08:36 <Lucifer_arma> in my family, people would ask. But then, in my family, there's real communication
08:36 <GodTodd> mine would too
08:36 <Lucifer_arma> we may not always be happy with each other, but we always know where we stand. :)
08:36 <GodTodd> i'd get a "where the hell were you?" call ;)
08:37 <Lucifer_arma> my wife loves the fact that when we're with anybody in my family, everybody is always so relaxed, everybody is listened to (although you might have to work to make yourself heard), etc.
08:37 <Lucifer_arma> heh, yeah, that's probably closer to the call I'd get :)
08:37 <GodTodd> that's just cuz you're loud italians :P
08:37 <Lucifer_arma> :)
08:38 <Lucifer_arma> but in her family everybody is always so guarded, you walk on eggshells, and everybody does it
08:38 <GodTodd> not to be mean, but when i hear you talk about your in laws it makes me feel *much* better about mine ;)
08:38 <Lucifer_arma> see, I never talk much at her family gatherings, so those people haven't gotten to know me as well as they think they do
08:38 <Lucifer_arma> heh
08:38 <Lucifer_arma> I'm glad my inlaws are good for something, then
08:39 <GodTodd> haha
08:39 <Lucifer_arma> so when they want to whine about how they've been mistreated for their choice of religion, and that they don't want any trouble with us, I'm not sympathetic
08:39 <Lucifer_arma> if they didn't want trouble, they'd invite us. Full stop.
08:39 <GodTodd> exactly
08:40 <Lucifer_arma> because my family has quite a sordid history with religion, feuds stretching many years
08:40 <Lucifer_arma> hell, the two reasons my dad didn't talk to his dad for many many years was his choice of career and his choice of church
08:40 <Lucifer_arma> in the end, they resolved their differences because they were both dying (although my dad managed to pull through, his dad didn't)
08:41 <Lucifer_arma> so all the stupid religious bigotry was stopped at my parent's generation, and they were bound and determined not to pass it on
08:41 <GodTodd> smart people
08:41 <GodTodd> religion was never a big deal with my family growing up
08:41 <Lucifer_arma> but my wife's step-mom is a standard american xenophobe, even if she is "liberal"
08:42 <GodTodd> liberal is a no-meaning label
08:42 <Lucifer_arma> my parents quit going to church when they saw how the members of their church treated their son when he left the church
08:42 <MrBougo> is it possible to set an alias so that its possible to use it with sudo?
08:42 <MrBougo> sudo alias doesnt work :/
08:43 <Lucifer_arma> they still believe in god and all, but they've taken the view that everybody's relationships with god is each individual's own problem and none of their business
08:43 <GodTodd> only time my parents went to church was if someone got married or died
08:43 <Lucifer_arma> I wish more christians would take that view
08:43 <GodTodd> yep...that's how i was brought up
08:43 <Lucifer_arma> MrBougo: what kind of alias are you trying to set?
08:43 <MrBougo> huh
08:43 <MrBougo> a bash alias
08:44 <MrBougo> when i set up any alias, it doesnt work with sudo
08:44 <Lucifer_arma> well, I have to admit my parent's view forms the core of how I implement my own tolerance
08:44 <GodTodd> understandably :)
08:44 <MrBougo> just like the default alias
08:44 <Lucifer_arma> MrBougo: you have to change the root user's login shell
08:44 <MrBougo> alias ls='ls --color=auto'
08:44 <MrBougo> and what do i have to change thee?
08:44 <MrBougo> there*
08:44 <Lucifer_arma> those aliases are defined somehwere, and bash loads them on startup
08:45 <Lucifer_arma> so consult the bash man page for the information, the home directory for root is /root
08:45 <MrBougo> there's only one "root" word in the bash manpage
08:45 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know the exact order that shit gets loaded, so you should look at the bash man page for it
08:45 <MrBougo> hehe
08:45 <Lucifer_arma> don't search for root, read about the startup files
08:46 <MrBougo> but there's something crazy
08:46 <MrBougo> sudo: alias: command not found
08:46 <MrBougo> i tried to set up my alias with sudo
08:46 <MrBougo> oh crap
08:46 <MrBougo> there's probly no alias file or such for sudoers
08:46 <Lucifer_arma> that won't work, because sudo forks a new shell every time you run it
08:46 <Lucifer_arma> grrr
08:46 <MrBougo> ow
08:46 <Lucifer_arma> sudo just starts a new bash to run the command
08:47 <MrBougo> it should be possible to use sodu to keep some stuff from the user who invokes it
08:47 <MrBougo> ima check the sudo manpage
08:47 <Lucifer_arma> ok, fine, do that
08:47 <Lucifer_arma> but you have to send me a cookie when you find the answer in the bash man page area that talks about startup files
08:48 <Lucifer_arma> so anyway, I was supposed to call her tonight and tell her what the problem is with me
08:48 <Lucifer_arma> and I did, but there was no answer
08:48 <MrBougo> okay i'll send you a cookie
08:49 <MrBougo> line 136
08:49 <Lucifer_arma> and I narrowed it down to three topics that I want to talk to her about. One is the actual mechanics of how what she did today was totally wrong, and the random access candy thing. The rest I'm going to delegate to my wife, which is another topic
08:50 <Lucifer_arma> that one is basically that she and I are the wrong two people to be having this conversation, I'm stuck in the middle of something and trying to do my best for my kids, and she and my wife need to have it out
08:50 <Lucifer_arma> and the third topic I don't know if I'm going to bother with, I don't think she'll understand it and I don't feel like wasting my time with it, which is how to deal with people from other religions or that lack a religion
08:51 <MrBougo> heres a coookie
08:51 <MrBougo> .google.com TRUE / FALSE 1457262410 rememberme false
08:51 <Lucifer_arma> no, I meant a real baked good that was made in belgium by a real belgian
08:51 <MrBougo> oh
08:51 <MrBougo> the only cookies i have here
08:51 <MrBougo> are industrial
08:51 <MrBougo> and called "new york cookies"
08:52 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: makes sense
08:52 <MrBougo> i'd like real cookies too
08:52 <MrBougo> these new york cookies are chocolate chip cookies
08:53 <MrBougo> with crushed nuts
08:53 <GodTodd> ow
08:54 <MrBougo> oh and chocolate-flavoured paste
08:54 <MrBougo> yummy, but its industrial
08:54 <MrBougo> nothing's better than real cookies
08:54 <Lucifer_arma> I can't believe that you can't go out and buy a real cookie
08:54 <spidey> ...
08:55 <spidey> Lucifer_arma: civ?
08:55 <Lucifer_arma> or bake one
08:55 <spidey> luke's gone to bed so it's safe for me to coem out xD
08:55 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: nah, I need to make sure I don't sleep in too much tomorrow so I can call my wife's idiot step-mom
08:55 <Lucifer_arma> basically, the civ opportunity for me has passed
08:56 <spidey> fuck
08:56 <spidey> i didn't realize it was 2am
08:56 <Lucifer_arma> spidey, it's 2am
08:56 <GodTodd> spidey: what was fucknuts trnng you on, anyway?
08:56 <Lucifer_arma> what language is "trnng"?
08:56 <spidey> haha
08:56 <GodTodd> luke-jr_ language :)
08:56 <MrBougo> turning?
08:57 <MrBougo> tronning?
08:57 <Lucifer_arma> what country speaks "turning"?
08:57 <GodTodd> #last --with trnng
08:57 <armabot> GodTodd: [09:01:56] <Lucifer_arma> what language is "trnng"?
08:57 <MrBougo> taronenaoing
08:57 <GodTodd> #last --with trnng --nolimit
08:57 <armabot> GodTodd: [09:02:28] <GodTodd> #last --with trnng, [09:01:56] <Lucifer_arma> what language is "trnng"?, [09:01:37] <GodTodd> spidey: what was fucknuts trnng you on, anyway?, and [07:46:05] * luke-jr_ s bsy trnng spdy atm
08:57 <MrBougo> hehe
08:57 <MrBougo> actually i'd like to make a joke
08:57 <spidey> training?
08:57 <Lucifer_arma> ah oh, he's going to make a joke
08:58 <MrBougo> for a friend
08:58 <GodTodd> that's what i guessed
08:58 * Lucifer_arma gets a brown paper bag ready
08:58 <MrBougo> like he just crashed my system
08:58 <MrBougo> with a virtual machine
08:58 <MrBougo> make an alias "ku"
08:58 <MrBougo> to delete the kernel
08:58 <MrBougo> and make him type sudo ku
08:58 <MrBougo> get it?
08:58 * Lucifer_arma barfs into his paper bag
08:58 <MrBougo> xD
08:58 <Lucifer_arma> is the joke over?
08:58 <spidey> LOL
08:58 <MrBougo> it is
08:58 <MrBougo> i think
08:58 <MrBougo> i want him to panic
08:59 * Lucifer_arma puts the paper bag into the trash
08:59 <MrBougo> hehe
08:59 <GodTodd> a kernel panic?
08:59 <MrBougo> but the problem is that i cant get an alias working with sudo
08:59 <MrBougo> oh, i could make a script
08:59 <MrBougo> thank you for your help
08:59 <GodTodd> all this work for a practical joke?
08:59 <Lucifer_arma> eh? you call that joke practical?
08:59 <MrBougo> and for gaining exp
08:59 <GodTodd> we obviously need to outsource more jobs to belgium
08:59 <MrBougo> lalw
09:00 <MrBougo> lawl*
09:00 <Lucifer_arma> nah, belgium's got some crazy labor laws
09:00 <Lucifer_arma> hell, the fact that they've got labor laws is pretty crazy
09:00 <Lucifer_arma> hey, did I tell you I might have a new job of sorts? :)
09:00 <GodTodd> and the people to go with them ;)
09:00 <GodTodd> new job? doing?
09:00 <Lucifer_arma> building amps :)
09:00 <GodTodd> hrmm
09:01 <Lucifer_arma> one of the teachers I worked with over the summer has a husband that designs tube amps
09:01 <Lucifer_arma> as a hobby
09:01 <Lucifer_arma> he's willing to spend some money to have someone build the prototypes so he can focus on the design
09:01 <GodTodd> cool :)
09:01 <Lucifer_arma> he's also interested in trying to make some money selling the boards to the DIY amp community, and he's already got a name in said community
09:02 <Lucifer_arma> so we're going to try a few amps and see if we can agree on a price point
09:02 <MrBougo> sudo cat /dev/input/mice is funney :(
09:02 <Lucifer_arma> he suggested I could try to make some extra cash by selling the amps, and I suggested web marketing (of course)
09:02 <Lucifer_arma> so we'll see how it goes. I'm not quitting my job at the school for it, it'll be extra cash
09:03 <GodTodd> right
09:03 <Lucifer_arma> but it comes at the right time when I could use some extra cash, and I'd like to pursue this new-found electronics hobby
09:04 <GodTodd> fun, ain't it? :)
09:04 <Lucifer_arma> if the extra cash is there, then the justification is there to buy certain items needed to pursue electronics as a hobby :)
09:05 <Lucifer_arma> one thing I'll need to do this is a bench supply, so I can test the amp circuits I build before I build the power supply part
09:05 <spidey> er
09:05 <Lucifer_arma> because I need to know the amp is good before I hook up the power supply in case the power supply isn't good, and I'll need to test the power supply too of course
09:06 <Lucifer_arma> the first amp he wants me to build is this one:
09:06 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.amb.org/audio/ck2/
09:10 <GodTodd> shouldn't be too bad
09:11 <Lucifer_arma> nah, not too bad at all, but I should get a decent soldering iron for it :)
09:11 <Lucifer_arma> I can probably get away with that, but a bench supply is pushing it right now
09:12 <Lucifer_arma> so I can just build what's there with the supply it has, hope that I don't screw anything up and trust that the design itself is good
09:12 <Lucifer_arma> take the money and move on, probably aim on getting a bench supply for the first actual prototype he wants me to build
09:13 <GodTodd> right
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13:32 <armabot> pong
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15:00 <Angel-H> hi :)
15:01 <philippeqc> hello
15:02 <Angel-H> do you know by any chance how to personalise the bots names for a server ? :)
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15:04 <Ill> hi all
15:04 <Angel-H> hi :)
15:04 <Ill> just a nube q: what is the best linux round?
15:08 <philippeqc> linux round?
15:09 <philippeqc> The only true answer is : "the one that makes you stick with it and start fixing the small part that do not work for you"
15:10 <Ill> linux around i meant
15:10 <philippeqc> They will all give you "troubles", be it a non-working sound card, or a font that you dont like in the window manager. The question is "is it giving you enought of what you want for you to stick with it"?
15:11 <philippeqc> There are no real "best". It more catering to somewhat differrent tastes. Gentoo give you plenty of opportunity to tune and retune your system.
15:11 <philippeqc> Slackware and or Suse have a long history, and some people like to stick with them or their feeling
15:12 <philippeqc> Debian/Ubuntu are the new raising popular ones
15:12 <philippeqc> Mandriva get rids of many of the hassles normaly associated with linux to get you running faster
15:14 <Ill> thanx
15:14 <philippeqc> Basically, yes you will have to try a few. On my laptop, some years ago, I tried Debian, which refused to give me X 4.1 (it was 3.6 by default), the red hat "worked" but had way ugly desktop and no easy package installation (in the style of "I want X, install all that is required") and then Mandrake just "worked" enough for me to try and address the remaining issue
15:16 <philippeqc> After a year, switched to Gentoo in the hope to get access to accelerated 3d rendering on my integrated graphic card, but never really managed, and after a few months of spending more time maintaining it than actually using it, i ditched it back for Mandriva.
15:18 <philippeqc> Now on my desktop pc, I decided to just try Ubuntu, knowing I could fall back on Mandriva. They are quite equal to each other with wide software selection and the possiblity to download and install directly from the net, and enough GUI admin tools so that you dont need to go trhough long docs just for trivial task (such as opening a port or 2 on the firewall)
15:23 <philippeqc> Ill: if you want an easy answer, burn both Ubuntu and Mandriva installation CD's, close your eyes and stick on in the drive. If it fail, try the other.
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15:31 <Ill> cyall
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16:09 <philippeqc> Hi MrBougo
16:10 <MrBougo> hiho philippeqc
16:10 <philippeqc> Been a while
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16:33 <MrBougo> yup philippeqc
16:33 <MrBougo> sry :p
16:33 <philippeqc> ?
16:34 <MrBougo> late answer
16:34 <philippeqc> o yeah
16:34 <philippeqc> my mind in Ruby learning mode atm
16:34 <MrBougo> hehe
16:34 <MrBougo> i'll learn python when i get my laptop
16:34 <philippeqc> why python?
16:34 <MrBougo> but first i need to finish my student job :p
16:35 <philippeqc> what is your job?
16:35 <MrBougo> cause my physics teacher gave me a book
16:35 <MrBougo> a GPL book :p
16:35 <MrBougo> i'm working in a hypermarket
16:35 <philippeqc> neat, what is it about
16:35 <MrBougo> frozen food department
16:35 <MrBougo> it's about learning python :)
16:36 <philippeqc> so people click their groceries online and you ship them frozen peas?
16:36 <MrBougo> naaaah
16:36 <MrBougo> wtf
16:36 <MrBougo> we're talking about two different thing at th same time
16:36 <MrBougo> thigs* the*
16:36 <MrBougo> im working so i can buy a laptop
16:36 <philippeqc> oooo hyper not at hyperlink but as hyper is bigger than super kinda market
16:37 <MrBougo> and when i get my laptop i'll learn python
16:37 <MrBougo> yep
16:37 <philippeqc> yeah, but I managed to follow that
16:37 <MrBougo> hehe
16:37 <philippeqc> though you worked on an amazon of food
16:38 <philippeqc> If I give you 2 free books, one about ruby (http://www.ruby-doc.org/docs/ProgrammingRuby/) and one about C++ (http://www.icce.rug.nl/documents/cplusplus/) like your phys teacher gave you, does that mean you will learn them too?
16:38 <MrBougo> nah
16:38 <MrBougo> i'll learn python fisrt :p
16:39 <MrBougo> cause it's a real book
16:39 <MrBougo> with paper and stuff you know
16:39 <MrBougo> it still exists
16:39 <MrBougo> and python is better for starting programming, isnt it?
16:39 <philippeqc> printed myself a dead tree version of the C++ one, and the Ruby one is published on cellulose pulp too ;)
16:39 <philippeqc> Dunno!
16:40 <MrBougo> either
16:40 <philippeqc> I'd just keep away from C++
16:40 <MrBougo> anyway i'll learn python
16:40 <MrBougo> so would i
16:40 <MrBougo> C++ is too complex for a 1st language
16:40 <MrBougo> not 1st actually
16:40 <MrBougo> i've done some visualbasic
16:40 <philippeqc> complex, not, picky, yes
16:40 <MrBougo> eek
16:40 <MrBougo> yep
16:40 <MrBougo> complex to learn :)
16:40 <philippeqc> very simple, it has close to no libraries, while ruby/python have huges ones
16:41 <philippeqc> ;)
16:41 <MrBougo> that's less confusion, right?
16:41 <MrBougo> you only load the libs you need
16:41 <philippeqc> O yeah! By default, you cant do network, threading, GUI and all that stuff. Just counting and shuffling data around.'
16:42 <MrBougo> :(
16:42 <philippeqc> Ha yes, but they are not standard! The network lib for Unix isnt the same as the one for Windows. While Python/Ruby/Java all come with one big library that does all that.
16:42 <philippeqc> That is a few more chapters in the book ;)
16:43 <MrBougo> wee
16:43 <philippeqc> Lets try to cut down the confusion: Why do you want to learn to program. What kind of problems you want to address=
16:43 <philippeqc> ?
16:43 <MrBougo> wth you printed a whole book?
16:43 <MrBougo> ah no
16:44 <MrBougo> i just want to have fun with my computer
16:44 <MrBougo> understand how things work
16:44 <philippeqc> yes, at a previous work place, like 20-30 pages a day (in 2 pages per sheet mode)
16:44 <MrBougo> phew, at a work place
16:44 <MrBougo> thats ok then :p
16:44 <philippeqc> It wasnt much more than the daily report I needed to print !
16:45 <philippeqc> C++
16:45 <philippeqc> oups
16:47 <philippeqc> C++'s goal is to a) get you close to the hardware (think of drivers or embedded systems), b) give you multi-paradigm capacity (both procedural and Object Oriented) c) allows you to extract the most of the resources at hand (ie: do big calculation)
16:48 <philippeqc> Python has often been said to be an excellent prototyping language (ie: you first code something in Python to see if it works and learn from the problem area, then use what you learned to code it in another language)
16:48 <philippeqc> Note that I didn't say that Python was a prototyping language, just that is is often used for that very succesfully.
16:49 <philippeqc> Google for example looked for python skills in their hiring process, even though they do not use it in their products.
16:50 <philippeqc> As for Ruby, even though I'm studiying it, I know very little of its advantages and regular uses.
16:55 <philippeqc> And just not to ignore anyone, the whole Java vs C++ could be turned to a Alkatras vs Fort Knocks. Both are secure place, but one of them got much of it for free by using a rocky island in the middle of a wide bay with heavy currents. In the same way, you often get a lot for free(at no developer cost) with Java.
16:58 <philippeqc> At a previous work place, one group of 4 Java developers + 1 manager where coding toward a single server that had to take all the payments information from all the banks, and match it to the companies account. So if you used you mobile phone for like 54$ one month, 37$ the second and 73$ the third, and where late paying, then payed twice in the same month like 47$ and 21$, they had to all match it up.
17:00 <philippeqc> Anyway, my point is, 4 coders + 1 manager, 1 server, what do you think cost you each month, the coding time or the machine? So giving tools for the coder to spend less time chasing pointers and more time delivering features might mean you need to fork the green for a server twice as powerfull, but even that wont come near with a single month of development cost.
17:06 <MrBougo> amen
17:11 <philippeqc> lol
17:12 <philippeqc> the real question is why are you waiting before starting to learn Python?
17:12 <philippeqc> Seems to me you have access to a puter right now!
17:18 <MrBougo> philippeqc: the only computer we have here is the family computer
17:18 <MrBougo> i dont have much access :p
17:18 <MrBougo> sis or mom always want it
17:18 <MrBougo> so do i
17:19 <philippeqc> It's called pen and papers
17:19 <MrBougo> mh
17:19 <MrBougo> i cant learn without experimenting
17:19 <MrBougo> i can actually
17:19 <MrBougo> but it doesnt stay :p
17:19 <philippeqc> Read the dead tree book, note stuff on paper, quickly jolt things to try later when the puter is free
17:19 <MrBougo> yup
17:20 <MrBougo> but i prefer having access when i want it
17:20 <MrBougo> so if i wounder about some stuff
17:20 <MrBougo> i dont have to wait 30 minutes
17:20 <MrBougo> i can experiment directly
17:20 <MrBougo> brb
17:20 <philippeqc> I know, I'm just telling you you can get a head start
17:20 <MrBougo> yup i know
17:20 <MrBougo> but i prefer starting later
17:21 <MrBougo> and being sure that i'll feel comfortable
17:21 <MrBougo> brb now :p
17:22 <philippeqc> k
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17:30 <Bougo> crap! damn connection!
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17:32 <philippeqc> Mr B: Got a wireless router I hope?
17:33 <philippeqc> to fully enjoy your laptop
17:47 <MrBougo> philippeqc: i'll get one, you
17:47 <MrBougo> patcha thing about a belkin?
17:48 <MrBougo> modem+router
17:48 <MrBougo> is it good stuff?
17:48 <MrBougo> i have one at dad's, and i have no problem with it
17:48 <MrBougo> but i'm not using the wireless a lot
17:48 <philippeqc> yeah, but now that I'm no longer using my laptop, it just still idle (except for the 2 desktop I mean)
17:49 <philippeqc> dont have a modem + router, have cable here, and they gave us the cable modem
17:49 <MrBougo> oh
17:49 <MrBougo> no cable here
17:49 <MrBougo> its fackin expensive
17:49 <philippeqc> dsl?
17:49 <philippeqc> dial-up?
17:49 <MrBougo> its the only place in brussels where the cable is expensive
17:49 <qxdtz> need money for macbook
17:49 <MrBougo> dsl
17:49 <qxdtz> donate
17:49 <qxdtz> pls!
17:49 <qxdtz> :D
17:50 <philippeqc> qxdtz: me too! Can you donate to me?
17:50 <qxdtz> never
17:50 <qxdtz> and you?
17:50 <qxdtz> D:
17:50 <MrBougo> ill donate you if you donate me
17:50 <philippeqc> well, I was considering donating to you, but not anymore
17:50 <MrBougo> to*
17:50 <philippeqc> ;)
17:50 <qxdtz> you donate me, and i donate back you
17:50 <qxdtz> XD
17:52 <philippeqc> ok, you first ;)
17:53 <qxdtz> no!
17:53 <qxdtz> :(
17:53 <philippeqc> darn! Such a near perfect plan!
18:32 <MrBougo> mmmh
18:32 <MrBougo> yummy
18:32 <MrBougo> chicken red curry and rice
18:32 <MrBougo> spicy
18:40 <MrBougo> mmh
18:40 * philippeqc is jealous! I want some one else to cook my food too
18:40 <MrBougo> bought it where i work :p
18:40 <MrBougo> frozen
18:41 <philippeqc> the frozen web-store
18:41 <philippeqc> ;)
18:42 <MrBougo> hehe
18:42 <MrBougo> it isnt web
18:42 <MrBougo> but you know
18:42 <MrBougo> but sometimes i cant spot irony
18:42 <MrBougo> but i can spot that i look dumb now
18:42 <qxdtz> .
18:42 <philippeqc> chicken break and lettuce head are calling my stomack to a different room
18:42 <qxdtz> .
18:42 <qxdtz> .
18:42 <kidanger> hi
18:43 <kidanger> salut MrBougo
18:43 <MrBougo> hop
18:44 <kidanger> MrBougo: J'ai pas (encore) reussi a faire un script en php :/
18:44 <MrBougo> :(
18:46 <kidanger> j'ai reessayer quelque chose en bash, mais ça marche mal
18:47 <MrBougo> yummy
18:47 <MrBougo> bah je sais pas kidanger
18:47 <kidanger> :P
18:49 <MrBougo> there are little thingies in my meal
18:50 <qxdtz> ...
18:50 <MrBougo> looks like peas
18:50 <MrBougo> a bit bigger though
18:50 <qxdtz> bu o go
18:50 <MrBougo> and very spicy
18:50 <MrBougo> hot
18:50 <qxdtz> b o r i n g
18:50 <MrBougo> i think these are little eggplants
18:50 <MrBougo> qxdtz: ?
18:51 <qxdtz> you are boring mrbougo
18:51 <qxdtz> ;)
18:51 <MrBougo> why am i
18:51 <qxdtz> because digitx boring too
18:51 <MrBougo> you are digitx
18:51 <qxdtz> sure
18:51 <qxdtz> indeed
18:52 <kidanger> MrBougo: tu t'y connais en "regex" ?
18:52 <MrBougo> bof
18:52 <qxdtz> smart bugi
18:52 <MrBougo> pas trop
18:52 <qxdtz> ;p
18:53 <kidanger> MrBougo: je cherche comment "chercher" "committed suicide"
18:53 <kidanger> et "core dumped"
18:53 <qxdtz> comment va tu bugi?
18:54 <MrBougo> je sais pas kidanger
18:54 <MrBougo> y'a des sites spécialisés en regex
18:54 <MrBougo> en français
18:55 <kidanger> oui oui, je sort !
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19:01 <mixnetwork> Tank?
19:02 <qxdtz> program
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19:39 <MrBougo> lol
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20:06 <xfroggy> anyone wants to help me with a winzone :)))
20:06 <xfroggy> #roulette
20:06 <armabot> xfroggy: *click*
20:06 <xfroggy> everyone's dead
20:07 <qxdtz> :D
20:07 <qxdtz> #roulette
20:07 <armabot> qxdtz: *click*
20:07 <qxdtz> #roulette
20:07 <armabot> qxdtz: *click*
20:07 <xfroggy> -.-
20:07 <qxdtz> i won
20:07 <xfroggy> #roulette
20:07 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
20:07 * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
20:07 <qxdtz> :D
20:07 <qxdtz> oww
20:07 <xfroggy> :S
20:07 <qxdtz> you won:D
20:07 <xfroggy> :D
20:08 <FatesDestiny> lol
20:12 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o armabot] by ChanServ
20:12 <Lucifer_arma> #roulette
20:12 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: *click*
20:12 <xfroggy> hehe Lucifer_arma :D
20:12 <xfroggy> #roulette
20:12 <@armabot> xfroggy: *click*
20:12 <Lucifer_arma> #roulette
20:12 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: *click*
20:12 <xfroggy> qxdtz, ur turn :P
20:12 <xfroggy> #roulette
20:12 -!- xfroggy was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
20:12 * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
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20:12 <qxdtz> xDDDDDDDDDDDDD
20:13 <xfroggy> >:(
20:13 <qxdtz> naab! xD
20:13 <qxdtz> #roulette
20:13 <@armabot> qxdtz: *click*
20:13 <qxdtz> oh yea
20:13 <xfroggy> #roulette
20:13 <@armabot> xfroggy: *click*
20:13 <xfroggy> xD
20:13 <qxdtz> oh yea
20:13 <qxdtz> #roulette
20:13 <@armabot> qxdtz: *click*
20:13 <xfroggy> #roulette
20:13 <@armabot> xfroggy: *click*
20:13 <qxdtz> #roulette
20:13 <@armabot> qxdtz: *click*
20:13 <xfroggy> #roulette
20:13 -!- xfroggy was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
20:13 * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
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20:13 <qxdtz> i won!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
20:13 <xfroggy> twice :(((
20:13 <qxdtz> heheheh
20:13 <qxdtz> :D
20:13 <qxdtz> i won
20:13 <qxdtz> new round
20:13 <xfroggy> best out 5
20:13 <qxdtz> #roulette
20:13 <@armabot> qxdtz: *click*
20:13 <xfroggy> #roulette
20:13 <@armabot> xfroggy: *click*
20:13 <qxdtz> #roulette
20:13 <@armabot> qxdtz: *click*
20:13 <xfroggy> #roulette
20:13 -!- xfroggy was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
20:13 * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
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20:14 <xfroggy> grr
20:14 <qxdtz> AGAIN i WON!!!!!
20:14 <qxdtz> 2:0
20:14 <qxdtz> #roulette
20:14 <@armabot> qxdtz: *click*
20:14 * xfroggy scared
20:14 <xfroggy> #roulette
20:14 <@armabot> xfroggy: *click*
20:14 <qxdtz> #roulette
20:14 <xfroggy> whew.
20:14 <@armabot> qxdtz: *click*
20:14 <xfroggy> #roulette
20:14 <@armabot> xfroggy: *click*
20:14 <xfroggy> xD
20:14 <qxdtz> #roulette
20:14 <@armabot> qxdtz: *click*
20:14 <xfroggy> #roulette
20:14 -!- xfroggy was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
20:14 * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
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20:14 <qxdtz> 3:0
20:14 <qxdtz> unlucky
20:14 <qxdtz> now you start
20:14 <xfroggy> I'm getting a suspicion that Lucifer_arma got something to do with that O_o
20:15 <qxdtz> start
20:15 <xfroggy> #roulette
20:15 -!- xfroggy was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
20:15 * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
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20:15 <qxdtz> 4:0
20:15 <xfroggy> -.-
20:15 <qxdtz> armabot like me
20:15 <qxdtz> :)
20:15 * xfroggy lost :(
20:15 <qxdtz> #roulette
20:15 <@armabot> qxdtz: *click*
20:15 <xfroggy> #roulette
20:15 -!- xfroggy was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
20:15 * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
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20:15 <qxdtz> 5:0
20:15 <xfroggy> omg...
20:15 <qxdtz> #roulette
20:15 <@armabot> qxdtz: *click*
20:15 <xfroggy> he hates me!
20:15 <xfroggy> #roulette
20:15 <@armabot> xfroggy: *click*
20:15 <qxdtz> #roulette
20:15 <@armabot> qxdtz: *click*
20:15 <xfroggy> #roulette
20:15 <@armabot> xfroggy: *click*
20:15 <qxdtz> #roulette
20:15 <@armabot> qxdtz: *click*
20:15 <xfroggy> #roulette
20:15 -!- xfroggy was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
20:15 * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
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20:15 <qxdtz> 6:0
20:15 <xfroggy> :'(
20:15 <qxdtz> ok, what you give me?
20:16 <qxdtz> i need ssh account
20:16 <qxdtz> :D
20:16 <xfroggy> my 6 lifes
20:16 <qxdtz> -.-
20:16 <qxdtz> ok you are cat
20:16 <qxdtz> you have 9 age
20:16 <xfroggy> xD
20:16 <qxdtz> start
20:16 <qxdtz> #roulette
20:16 <@armabot> qxdtz: *click*
20:16 <xfroggy> #roulette
20:16 <@armabot> xfroggy: *click*
20:16 <qxdtz> #roulette
20:16 <@armabot> qxdtz: *click*
20:16 <xfroggy> #roulette
20:16 <@armabot> xfroggy: *click*
20:16 <qxdtz> #roulette
20:16 <@armabot> qxdtz: *click*
20:16 <xfroggy> #roulette
20:16 -!- xfroggy was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
20:16 * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
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20:16 <qxdtz> 7:0
20:16 <qxdtz> #roulette
20:16 <xfroggy> something ain't fair here -.-
20:16 <@armabot> qxdtz: *click*
20:16 <xfroggy> #roulette
20:16 <@armabot> xfroggy: *click*
20:16 <qxdtz> #roulette
20:16 -!- qxdtz was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
20:16 * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
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20:16 <xfroggy> ha!
20:17 <qxdtz> 7:1
20:17 <qxdtz> #roulette
20:17 <xfroggy> finally :D
20:17 <@armabot> qxdtz: *click*
20:17 <xfroggy> #roulette
20:17 <@armabot> xfroggy: *click*
20:17 <qxdtz> #roulette
20:17 <@armabot> qxdtz: *click*
20:17 <xfroggy> #roulette
20:17 <@armabot> xfroggy: *click*
20:17 <qxdtz> #roulette
20:17 <@armabot> qxdtz: *click*
20:17 <xfroggy> #roulette
20:17 -!- xfroggy was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
20:17 * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
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20:17 <qxdtz> 8:1
20:17 <xfroggy> Oo
20:17 <xfroggy> #roulette
20:17 <qxdtz> i know what is tactics
20:17 <@armabot> xfroggy: *click*
20:17 <qxdtz> :)
20:17 <qxdtz> #roulette
20:17 -!- qxdtz was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
20:17 * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
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20:17 <xfroggy> you sure do..
20:17 <xfroggy> ;D
20:17 <qxdtz> 8:2
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20:17 <qxdtz> #roulette
20:17 <@armabot> qxdtz: *click*
20:18 * xfroggy on his last life
20:18 <xfroggy> #roulette
20:18 <@armabot> xfroggy: *click*
20:18 <qxdtz> #roulette
20:18 <@armabot> qxdtz: *click*
20:18 <xfroggy> armabot, I love you <3
20:18 <xfroggy> #roulette
20:18 -!- xfroggy was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
20:18 * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
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20:18 <qxdtz> XDDDDDDDDdddddddddd
20:18 <xfroggy> armabot, doesn't like men :P
20:18 <qxdtz> 9:2
20:18 <qxdtz> ok
20:18 <qxdtz> and now
20:18 <qxdtz> ssh account?
20:18 <qxdtz> :)
20:18 <xfroggy> can I make one up :D
20:20 <qxdtz> i wanna play with z-man
20:20 <qxdtz> xD
20:20 <xfroggy> lol!
20:20 <qxdtz> but if i win
20:20 <xfroggy> why armabot hates me so much :(
20:20 <qxdtz> i need ssh account
20:20 <qxdtz> :D
20:20 <qxdtz> because you flood
20:20 <qxdtz> look:
20:20 <qxdtz> .
20:20 <qxdtz> -
20:20 <qxdtz> .-
20:20 <qxdtz> #roulette
20:20 <xfroggy> Oo
20:20 <@armabot> qxdtz: *click*
20:21 <qxdtz> hm
20:21 <qxdtz> fweé
20:21 <qxdtz> wefwefwef
20:21 <qxdtz> hm
20:21 <qxdtz> #roulette
20:21 <@armabot> qxdtz: *click*
20:21 <qxdtz> #roulette
20:21 -!- qxdtz was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
20:21 <xfroggy> -.-
20:21 * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
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20:21 <qxdtz> #roulette
20:21 <xfroggy> qxdtz, lol :D
20:21 <@armabot> qxdtz: *click*
20:21 <qxdtz> you see?
20:21 <qxdtz> :p
20:21 <xfroggy> hmm, he really based on flooding O_o
20:21 <qxdtz> i'm good
20:21 <qxdtz> :D
20:21 <xfroggy> -.-
20:22 <xfroggy> ;_;
20:22 <qxdtz> #kill Bunny
20:22 <@armabot> Bunny will die on 08:03 PM, July 06, 2007 GMT due to being stabbed in the eye by qxdtz
20:22 <xfroggy> #smoke
20:22 <xfroggy> Oo
20:24 <xfroggy> #stone
20:24 <@armabot> 2 fat hash joints for BedMan and xfroggy, here you are guys, enjoy morocco stuff.
20:24 <xfroggy> ah :D
20:28 <qxdtz> lol
20:28 <qxdtz> :D
20:28 <qxdtz> where is zman
20:28 <qxdtz> omg
20:28 <qxdtz> :D
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21:55 <FatesDestiny> hi i was told i could get help here with map design
21:55 <FatesDestiny> and i was told luke was the man :)
22:08 <FatesDestiny> luke-jr, hi luke, i was told you make maps and may be able to help me with map design
22:11 <NeoThermic> Maps are programmed in Malbolge ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malbolge ) ;)
22:11 <FatesDestiny> ty :D i'm making one and i have some kinda off the wall ideas i wanna try
22:12 <NeoThermic> Hehe, I'm just kidding about Malbolge.
22:12 <FatesDestiny> lol ohhh
22:12 <FatesDestiny> i was fixin to look it up
22:12 <NeoThermic> It's the most evil programming language in the world
22:12 <FatesDestiny> ohhh
22:13 <NeoThermic> makes a good read if only to understand that it's awful
22:13 <FatesDestiny> that wasn't very nice :P
22:13 <NeoThermic> This Malbolge program displays "Hello, world."
22:13 <NeoThermic> (=<`:9876Z4321UT.-Q+*)M'&%$H"!~}|Bzy?=|{z]KwZY44Eq0/{mlk**
22:13 <NeoThermic> hKs_dG5[m_BA{?-Y;;Vb'rR5431M}/.zHGwEDCBA@98\6543W10/.R,+O<
22:13 <FatesDestiny> do you have any idea how respawning works or how win zones work
22:14 <NeoThermic> Nope, sorry. I only play Armagetron :)
22:15 <FatesDestiny> :) well this is my first try at a map
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22:51 <luke-jr_> FatesDestiny: who told you that nonsense?
22:51 <luke-jr_> I've made very few maps, very long time ago
22:51 <FatesDestiny> ohh someone in tron said to ask luke or kyle
22:52 <Lucifer_arma> nobody seriously recommends talking to luke
22:52 <Lucifer_arma> you tried the wiki already, right?
22:53 <Lucifer_arma> the detailed documentation is there...
22:59 <FatesDestiny> i did, but i can't really find out how, i kinda found something on spawning a zone, but i'm not sure if it is going to work how i need it to
23:00 <FatesDestiny> i want to set it so that the win zone has to be found in order to end the round
23:01 <FatesDestiny> i also want to be able to respawn players
23:21 <luke-jr_> FatesDestiny: talking to me is just to register with the repository
23:22 <luke-jr_> and someday that will be z-man
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23:38 <DrJoeTron> that was one shitty week
23:39 <DrJoeTron> WB electricity
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Log from 2007-08-27:
--- Day changed Mon Aug 27 2007
00:05 <noob7> can someone maybe point me into the right direction here, I've been searching the forums but wasnt able to find anything suitable - I am looking for a little PHP snippet that strips players.txt from everything but the player names to display them... can someone help me with this?
00:10 <Lucifer_arma> basic string parsing 101?
00:17 <noob7> so you teach that course?
00:18 <xfroggy> lol ^
00:19 <noob7> :/
00:46 <Lucifer_arma> come on, discard the first line, and just read the first string from each line after that
00:46 <Lucifer_arma> how hard can it be?
00:47 <Lucifer_arma> strip whitespace from every line, then read from the white for the first whitespace character and trim out that part of the string
00:47 <Lucifer_arma> if you want to keep the information, do it, otherwise you can just discard it
00:48 <Lucifer_arma> when you've trimmed off all the columns on the right that are known to be scores and shit, whatever's left must be the player name
00:48 <Lucifer_arma> see? basic string parsing 101....
01:00 <noob7> well I know what I'd have to do to get the players names, but my php knowledge is rather small to say the least
01:01 <noob7> knowing what needs to be done and doing it is a completely different task ;)
01:01 <noob7> thanks anyways, got it running thanks to someone sharing his snippet
01:10 <DrJoeTron> microsoft is my buddy now
01:10 <DrJoeTron> because they sent me a free zune
01:11 <Lucifer_arma> now you can squirt shit to your friends
01:11 <Lucifer_arma> except they probably have ipods
01:11 <DrJoeTron> they have ipods,
01:11 <DrJoeTron> i would never pay for an mp3 player
01:11 <DrJoeTron> but i'll take a free one regardless
01:12 <DrJoeTron> the best part is no one is going to steal it
01:12 <DrJoeTron> because its a zune
01:12 <DrJoeTron> i'd have more worries of people stealing my mini disc player before someone wants steal my zune
01:12 <DrJoeTron> to*
01:22 <GodTodd> zune sucks
01:22 <GodTodd> DrJoeTron: sucks
01:22 <GodTodd> microsoft sucks
01:22 <GodTodd> teh wrld s lame or smth
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01:28 <qXdtz|mobile> HI
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01:48 <noob7> so how would one go about winning/getting an zune for free? AND: have you posted about it in your livejournal yet? :p
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02:22 <NeoThermic> #weather 93555
02:22 <armabot> NeoThermic: The current temperature in SW Ridgecrest, Ridgecrest, California is 95.7°F (5:16 PM PDT on August 26, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 21%. Dew Point: 50.0°F. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005.0 hPa (Falling).
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03:08 <spidey> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mJ5kwVqkqg&mode=related&search=
04:10 -!- GodTodd_ is now known as GodTodd
04:20 <DrJoeTron> GodTodd more like GodTard
04:20 <DrJoeTron> amirite
04:20 <GodTodd> noyernot
04:20 <GodTodd> :P
06:32 <tramshed> hah
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> fight with my wife's step-mom is over
06:36 <mkzelda> u kick her ass?
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> yes
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> well, not exactly. :)
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> just talked, had a little fight, then made up
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> but I think I've successfully forced the issue to where my wife now has to go have her confrontation with the woman
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> and I got it on my terms, but the suggestion came from the step-mom
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> always best when the other side suggests what you really want :)
06:40 <tramshed> u?op ?p?sdn ?u????? s? un? s? ?l???u ?ou s,????
06:40 <tramshed> is that upside down for anyone else?
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06:40 <Lucifer_arma> got a lot of question marks in it
06:40 <Stewie-arma> hi everybody
06:40 <tramshed> hmm
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> is it supposed to have the question marks?
06:41 <tramshed> nah
06:41 <tramshed> its supposed to be upside down
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> why don't you dig up locutus's website? He's got the whole alphabet there for you
06:41 <Stewie-arma> crap I g2g again
06:41 <tramshed> tell me if this does anything for you
06:41 <Stewie-arma> lol
06:41 <tramshed> ??????????does this work correctly?
06:41 <Stewie-arma> ???
06:41 <tramshed> it should be in reverse
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> now there's question marks, and it's not reversed
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> plugin?
06:41 <tramshed> hah
06:41 <tramshed> unicode
06:41 <Stewie-arma> ?????????????????????????????????????
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, we've found around here that unicode doesn't work reliably enough in irc clients to be worth using
06:42 <tramshed> yep, thats been established
06:42 <tramshed> mine supports it though, heh
06:43 <Stewie-arma> Lucier_arma: do you use x-chat?
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> Stewie-arma: no
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> do a version request and see what you get
06:43 <tramshed> heh
06:43 <tramshed> no biggie on that
06:43 <tramshed> doesnt mean its not xcaht
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> haha
06:44 <tramshed> im lazy
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> holy shit, tramshed actually tells you :)
06:44 <tramshed> yeah, im lazy
06:44 <tramshed> os[Linux 2.6.22-gentoo-r2 x86_64] distro[Gentoo Linux (stable)] cpu[2 x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+ (AuthenticAMD) @ 3.01GHz] mem[Physical : 2.0GB, 72.5% free] disk[Total : 464.38GB, 79.40% Free] video[nVidia Corporation G80 [GeForce 8800 GTS]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia]
06:45 <tramshed> and http://im.catapultingfeces.com/phpsysinfo
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> I believe you mean "eataherbivore"
06:46 <tramshed> hah
06:46 <tramshed> fuck that
06:46 <tramshed> eatavegan
06:46 <tramshed> herbivores are supposed to not eat meat
06:46 <tramshed> vegans are jsut dumbasses
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> Uptime: 3 days, 9 hours and 11 minutes
06:50 <GodTodd> Uptime: 8 days, 3 hours and 58 minutes
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> then you missed the recent ubuntu software updates :)
06:50 <GodTodd> nope
06:50 <GodTodd> i've updated 2 or three times in the last day and a half
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> just not rebooting?
06:51 <GodTodd> nope
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> you'll need to recompiled pyqt4 probably, then, because python got updated
06:51 <GodTodd> probably
06:51 * Lucifer_arma just learned that, and has to recompile pyqt3 and pyqt4, but is only doing pyqt3
06:52 * tramshed compiles for fun
06:53 * Lucifer_arma has better things to do with his time :)
06:54 * GodTodd farts for fun.
06:54 <Lucifer_arma> not that I think you're wasting your time, of course
06:56 <Lucifer_arma> well, school starts tomorrow for me. Anyone else?
07:01 * GodTodd raises his hand.
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> what classes you got this time? I remember you said physics, what else?
07:05 <GodTodd> physics, data structures, humanities and government
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> light semester? ;)
07:06 <GodTodd> you?
07:07 <GodTodd> light but necessary ;)
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> statics, martial arts weaponry, chemistry, us government, speech, comp 2
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> sorry about the wait, I had to re-authenticate to my school's new authentication scheme, and I couldn't remember the last class
07:11 <GodTodd> haha
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> about to put it all on my calendar again and make a last attempt to get it synced to my pda
07:12 <GodTodd> does your school combine us and tx govt too?
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> no, separate classes
07:12 <GodTodd> ahhh...mine covers both at once
07:12 <GodTodd> but we still have to take two of them :/
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> but you still need 6 credit hours :)
07:12 <GodTodd> yep
07:13 <Lucifer_arma> that's state law
07:13 <GodTodd> yep
07:13 <Lucifer_arma> aka welfare for government teachers
07:13 <GodTodd> heh
07:13 <GodTodd> the teacher i had in spring wasn't even a govt teacher
07:13 <Lucifer_arma> my texas government teacher said that law was lobbied for by UT alumni :)
07:14 <Lucifer_arma> so UT could get a bigger chunk of money to fund the classes
07:14 <GodTodd> no doubt on the leg that the more educated people are about the system, the more likely they'll make better choices too
07:15 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, and it was passed back when politicians needed people to be more educated about the system to stay in power
07:15 <GodTodd> now they need us *less* educated ;)
07:15 <Lucifer_arma> now it's the other way around, I'll bet the law could get reversed pretty easily if UT saw money in it
07:15 <Lucifer_arma> heh, the more educated people tend to vote democrat these days
07:16 <GodTodd> i don't doubt it
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> tomorrow is statics and martial arts weaponry
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> and I have to email my us government teacher, since I'm taking that as distance learning
07:21 <GodTodd> i just have data structures tomorrow
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm going to email my us government teacher in a few minutes, I need to get a jump on that
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> I need to get a jump on everything, semester's too full to let any class get backed up the first week
07:23 <Lucifer_arma> and I can't drop any more classes, particularly classes in my degree (outside of the core stuff)
07:23 <GodTodd> right
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08:21 <Lucifer_arma> grrr, now the damn thing won't sync at all
08:22 <Lucifer_arma> this really bugs me when it won't sync for no apparent reason
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10:07 <spidey> http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/1158/lolhaxsu6.jpg
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11:15 <madav> hi all
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12:52 <spidey> C:\Documents and Settings\spidey\Desktop\text>cat logs.txt|grep -i "don't forget
12:52 <spidey> "
12:52 <spidey> (8:55:08 PM) spidey: don't forget to not wear your seatbelt
12:53 <spidey> got tired of forgetting which commands where for which os >.<
12:53 <spidey> so now most linux = windows >.<
12:53 <qxdtz> hiho
12:53 <qxdtz> spidi
12:53 <qxdtz> xD
12:56 <spidey> C:\>uname -a
12:56 <spidey> windows32 hax 2.5.1 2600 i786-pc Intel unknown MinGW
12:56 <spidey> lawl
12:57 <qxdtz> hax
12:57 <qxdtz> LOL
12:57 <qxdtz> xD
13:46 <spidey> C:\>rm -ri WINDOWS
13:46 <spidey> rm: descend into directory `WINDOWS'?
13:46 <spidey> OHES NOES
13:50 <qxdtz> XD
13:51 <qxdtz> rm windows
13:51 <qxdtz> now
13:51 <qxdtz> :D
13:56 <spidey> vmware is so much faster than microsoft virtual pc
13:56 <spidey> and uses less cpu -.-
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14:51 <Lucifer_arma> started my first class :)
14:51 <Lucifer_arma> (the distance learning one)
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15:04 <spidey> dude
15:04 <spidey> this windows manager is awesome
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15:04 <spidey> it's like the windows equal of beryl
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15:46 <spidey> no fucking way
15:46 <spidey> that's the 2nd paper weight this month
16:04 <z-man-work> Hard disk died?
16:07 <qxdtz> hi zman
16:07 <qxdtz> :D
16:20 <Stewie-arma> Uptime: 33 days 16 hours 56 minutes 13 seconds
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17:10 <spidey> z-man-work, no, router
17:10 <z-man-work> Well, that' slightly less expensive and annoying.
17:11 <spidey> router > $80~ 320gb hdd > $80~
17:11 <spidey> :p
17:11 <spidey> i have so many routers...
17:12 <z-man-work> You can chain them to build DMZs :)
17:12 <spidey> 3 belkins, linksys, cnet(no idea wtf it is)
17:12 <spidey> i can? O.o
17:12 <spidey> none of them have routing functions
17:12 <spidey> they're basically a accesspoint
17:12 <spidey> all they work as
17:13 <z-man-work> Yeah, plug router 1 into the internet, plug the DMZ server and router 2 into router 1, and the rest of your computers into router 2
17:13 <z-man-work> then the DMZ server can't access the rest of your computers, but the rest can contact the DMZ server.
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17:13 <spidey> O.o
17:14 <spidey> they don't work like that anyways
17:15 <spidey> they drop connection every 2-5 minutes if i use them as anything other than access points
17:15 <z-man-work> Designed to be paperweights, then :)
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17:16 <spidey> heh
17:52 * tramshed extracts a 6gb file
17:52 <tramshed> who-hoo
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17:52 <spidey> ..
17:56 <tramshed> woot
17:56 <tramshed> 4gb file limit on fat32
17:56 <tramshed> selfpwned
17:56 * tramshed moves the archive
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18:57 <Lucifer_arma> well, there we go, my youngest is off to school
19:07 <GodTodd> half days?
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19:30 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, pre-k
19:30 <Lucifer_arma> looks like my neighbor's kid broke his wrist. They just took him off in an ambulance
19:33 * GodTodd already sent his oldest off to school....have to pick him up in a couple of hours
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19:34 <Lucifer_arma> heh
19:34 <Lucifer_arma> youngest is a milestone, though :)
19:35 <Lucifer_arma> but he's a trooper. He was clearly scared, but he held himself together and did as he was told and walked to class
19:35 <GodTodd> truly
19:35 <Lucifer_arma> one of the other kids started wailing, and the parents kept trying to comfort him, so the teacher banished us
19:35 <GodTodd> heh
19:35 <Lucifer_arma> we were supposed to walk the kids to the classroom, but we got banished in front of the office
19:35 <Lucifer_arma> so everyone stood there crying (many of them it was their first kid, and some of the women were expecting another one shortly)
19:36 <Lucifer_arma> so what do you do? It was my youngest, so I'd already been through that whole thing
19:36 <Lucifer_arma> how long do you wait to be polite, and how long of a wait is wasted time?
19:36 <Lucifer_arma> so I stood for like 5-10 minutes, then left, and everyone followed me out, so I guess I chose the appropriate interval
19:36 <GodTodd> heh
19:37 <Lucifer_arma> I already like his class though. He's one of 3 white kids, and the rest are all very diverse
19:38 <Lucifer_arma> there was a couple speaking french, another speaking an indian language, we'd already met the little asian girl and her mom, etc.
19:38 <Lucifer_arma> very diverse. I hate to sound racist, but I'm awfully happy there aren't so damn many white kids in his class
19:39 <Lucifer_arma> also got my first look at the new principal. He seemed of good humor and compassionate, but it wasn't much of a detailed impression
19:39 <GodTodd> i like the principal we have
19:39 <Lucifer_arma> oh fuck, I got pictures of the other two kids when they went to school, but we were in so much of a hurry that I didn't get him :(
19:39 <GodTodd> he's the standard "put on a happy face" school administrator...but he seems really open to parents
19:39 <Lucifer_arma> I'll take them tomorrow and pretend they happened today :)
19:40 <Lucifer_arma> is he a "beautiful people" kind of principal?
19:40 <GodTodd> was gonna say...i faked it one year with my oldest ;)
19:40 <GodTodd> nah
19:40 * GodTodd got a picture of his oldest sitting with his little brother on "first day of school" :)
19:41 <Lucifer_arma> :)
19:41 <GodTodd> it'll make a good memory in twenty years :)
19:41 <Lucifer_arma> the kid that started crying first set off a couple of other kids, and the rest got a little more scared
19:41 <Lucifer_arma> but my kid trooped right on. :) I'm very proud of him. ;)
19:42 <GodTodd> i haven't had to deal with a crying kid...my oldest wanted me to leave fast on his first day
19:42 <Lucifer_arma> mine too, she didn't want us to embarrass her in front of her new friends
19:42 <Lucifer_arma> my second kid it was business as usual
19:42 <GodTodd> geez...after next year i'll be the parent of a middle schooler :/
19:42 <Lucifer_arma> geezer
19:43 <GodTodd> he's in 4th grade now
19:43 <Lucifer_arma> holy shit, I'm not far from it either
19:43 <Lucifer_arma> oldest is in 3rd grade
19:43 <GodTodd> yep
19:43 <GodTodd> we're doddering old fools now :)
19:43 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, well, now we measure age by oldest kid, so you get to be the fucking geezer for awhile
19:43 <GodTodd> yep
19:43 <GodTodd> til they hit 18
19:43 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, then we get to be kids again ourselves
19:44 <GodTodd> thing is i'll probably have one more...so you'll have a good 5 year head start on your second childhood
19:44 <Lucifer_arma> of course, I don't know, I have told my wife a few times that she's close enough in age to our oldest that they can go clubbing together
19:44 <GodTodd> haha
19:44 <Lucifer_arma> second? don't you mean third?
19:44 <Lucifer_arma> WHAT'S THE POINT OF HAVING KIDS IF YOU DON'T GET A SECOND CHILDHOOD IN THE DEAL????
19:45 <GodTodd> well...i suppose that's true..."second adolescence"...how's that? ;)
19:45 <Lucifer_arma> much better. and this time, with sex!
19:45 <GodTodd> ahahaha
19:46 <Lucifer_arma> man, if my wife takes it to heart, she and my daughter could compete for the same men in the clubs, too
19:46 <GodTodd> no calls from school...that's a good thing :)
19:46 <Lucifer_arma> heh
19:47 <Lucifer_arma> we usually don't get any the first day, but now with 3 kids in school, we've increased the odds of a call happening on any given day
19:47 <Lucifer_arma> and with that idiot nurse still working there.....
19:47 <Lucifer_arma> man, I hope my daughter's teacher isn't totally worthless
19:47 <GodTodd> i like my son's teacher
19:48 <Lucifer_arma> same teacher, right?
19:48 <GodTodd> she cracked down on him last year with the "flashing" incident during recess
19:48 <GodTodd> yeah
19:48 <Lucifer_arma> he was flashing people?
19:48 <GodTodd> probably different mainstream teacher but same spec ed teach
19:48 <Lucifer_arma> ah, right
19:48 <GodTodd> he pulled his pants down on the basketball court
19:49 <Lucifer_arma> the spec ed teacher is the one that matters, though, because she's the one that's going to bat for him against the rest
19:49 <GodTodd> yep
19:49 <Lucifer_arma> so you'll get the call as either a backstabbing attempt on the spec ed teacher, or because shit has actually happened :)
19:50 <Lucifer_arma> (that's how the aces counselors were for me, but I didn't realize it until it was almost too late to take advantage of their services)
19:50 <Lucifer_arma> throw a bunch of women in a building and charge them with educating a bunch of kids and what do you get?
19:50 <GodTodd> she's a good teacher...one of those that actually *likes* doing what she does :)
19:50 <Lucifer_arma> that's just asking for the really horrible workplace politics
19:51 <Lucifer_arma> man, to be a good spec ed teacher, you have to love it
19:51 <GodTodd> yep
19:51 <Lucifer_arma> you can teach history and hate teaching
19:51 <GodTodd> that's for sure
19:51 <GodTodd> they put up with a lot of shit
19:51 <Lucifer_arma> yes, and they frequently really make a difference for the kids
19:51 <Lucifer_arma> I'm excepting the idiots at AHS, of course
19:52 <Lucifer_arma> they were totally worthless
19:52 <Lucifer_arma> but we could probably count the teachers that weren't worthless there on a couple of fingers
19:52 <GodTodd> my son has made massive strides in the educational environment he had last year...so i'm excited to see how far we can push it this year
19:52 <GodTodd> very true
19:53 <Lucifer_arma> he'll have Reimann's Hypothesis proven by the time he's 16
19:53 <GodTodd> i'm hoping ;)
19:53 <Lucifer_arma> and everybody will say "Oh look at what the <pejorative> kid did!" because they're not smart enough to understand what he did
19:53 * Lucifer_arma hates public schools
19:53 <GodTodd> yeah
19:54 <Lucifer_arma> "what a pretty picture!"
19:54 <GodTodd> we need vouchers
19:54 <Lucifer_arma> turn private schools into public schools? are you kidding?
19:54 <Lucifer_arma> then what're we going to do?
19:54 <Lucifer_arma> not that I have much choice right now, but ... but ... b-but .....
19:54 <GodTodd> actually...i think we need to turn education over to the private sector
19:54 <GodTodd> get the fucking government out of it
19:54 <Lucifer_arma> I think the kids need to burn the schools down
19:55 <Lucifer_arma> in protest
19:55 <GodTodd> have Wal-School
19:55 <Lucifer_arma> hey, I took my youngest for a speech evaluation today
19:55 <Lucifer_arma> which is what we were so busy doing that I forgot the camera
19:56 <Lucifer_arma> remember the CPS lady suggested it? So that when the evil school pounced on him for his speech (which is a little behind), we could say "fuck off, we're handling it"
19:56 <GodTodd> right
19:56 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, he did well. I think he knew he was being tested, so he wanted to impress the lady
19:56 <Lucifer_arma> she still recommended speech therapy, but agreed with me that it was entirely possible he would be at his age level or ahead in 6 months
19:57 <GodTodd> my son's speech has caught up well (he's assigned to a speech therapist)
19:57 <Lucifer_arma> so we're going to hold off a little bit and see how pre-k deals him, you know, trying to keep variables we can control for and measure the result
19:57 <GodTodd> right
19:57 <GodTodd> haha
19:57 <Lucifer_arma> speech therapy can be a godsend for the right kid, but to be honest, I've seen a few kids where all speech therapy gave them was a lot of well-enunciated babble
19:58 <GodTodd> i told my youngest that we have to pick up his brother in an hour and a half...so he's standing by the garage door waiting
19:58 <Lucifer_arma> my kid's got the language down pretty well, he tells jokes and plays fun conversational games and all
19:58 <Lucifer_arma> haha
19:58 <Lucifer_arma> he's still 1 right now, right?
19:58 <GodTodd> yeah
19:59 <GodTodd> feb he'll turn 2
19:59 <Lucifer_arma> ah yes, the terrible twos
19:59 <GodTodd> that last from 1-18 ;)
19:59 <Lucifer_arma> they tell you about the terrible twos to get you all worked up about it, but nobody mentioned the terrible threes :)
19:59 <GodTodd> and fours
19:59 <Lucifer_arma> oh hell, my daughter's really mellowed out
19:59 <GodTodd> and fives
20:00 <Lucifer_arma> she's doing chores and shit with a good sense of urgency and reasonable quality, and by finally trusting me on them she's finding all sorts of play time she didn't used to have
20:00 <GodTodd> yeah...we still have tussles over chores
20:00 <GodTodd> e\s
20:00 <Lucifer_arma> but she's already trying to push puberty even though it hasn't hit yet.
20:00 <Lucifer_arma> she's in a hurry to grow up
20:00 <GodTodd> especially over quality and half-assed work
20:01 <Lucifer_arma> she took total responsibility over getting ready for school this morning, she was a total little woman
20:01 <GodTodd> i tell him that if you aren't going to do it right (reasonably well at least) then you might as well not even try and if you don't at least try i get pissed ;)
20:01 <Lucifer_arma> she wanted to get her own breakfast (which she did), make her own lunch, etc.
20:01 <Lucifer_arma> she did all that
20:01 <GodTodd> yeah...my son did all that
20:02 <Lucifer_arma> I tell them to do it right, and if they don't, I dump all their shit out and make them do it again
20:02 <GodTodd> he likes school so he wanted to help make it faster ;)
20:02 <Lucifer_arma> heh
20:02 <Lucifer_arma> my daughter's really excited, which is good after the way last year went
20:02 <Lucifer_arma> a lot of her friends are in her class this year, the primary troublemaker has moved away, and the secondary troublemaker is also in her class
20:02 <Lucifer_arma> there's real potential here!
20:03 <GodTodd> haha
20:03 <Lucifer_arma> just watch the secondary troublemaker get pressured into being friends with my daughter, and my daughter finally gets to be the bigger girl
20:03 <Lucifer_arma> I hope it works out that way, that'll be so awesome for my daughter
20:04 <GodTodd> that'd rock :)
20:04 <Lucifer_arma> my older son got the teacher that my daughter woudn up transfering to at the end of last year, so both of them are really excited about that
20:05 <Lucifer_arma> so, we have one known good teacher, one teacher with a lot of experience with pre-k kids, and my daughter's teacher is in only her second year of teaching
20:05 <Lucifer_arma> which doesn't mean she's bad, mind you, but inexperience played into that crap last year, so there's some trepidation
20:06 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm gonna go grab a nap before I have to go to school. I haven't slept since yesterday
20:10 <GodTodd> have fun :)
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20:16 <MrBougo> bye
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21:37 <Durka> P4|away: !!!
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22:18 <Vanhayes> #ping
22:18 <armabot> pong
22:18 <Vanhayes> #tea
22:18 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (17/32): ${ßGL}$Kriki, -:R:- Rogue, 1200, biello, Durka, hoop, Lackadaisical, Luzifer, null, PuNiSh, SpinAce, Tropic girl, ~*SP*~joda.bot, ¢Tx$afari$kater, ¦Ö¦FoFo, ¦Ö¦Goax, °¯AshitakA
22:26 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
22:26 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 75°F / 24°C | Humidity: 53% | Pressure: 30.09in / 1019hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h | Updated: 5:00 PM ADT; Tonight - A few clouds. Fog patches overnight. Low 12C(54F).; Tuesday - Sunny. High 26C(79F) except 22C(72F) along the coast. UV index 6 or high. Tuesday night clear. Wind southwest 20 km/h (12 mph). Low 13C(55F).; (1 more message)
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Log from 2007-08-28:
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00:19 -!- Durka [n=Durka@cpe-76-81-28-7.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
00:19 <Durka> Vanhayes: Vanhayes Vanhayes Vanhayes Vanhayes
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00:28 <noob7> so who needs 10 bucks so desperately that he's gonna code a new ladder script in php for me?
00:28 <noob7> luke is usually late on his rent right? :D
00:38 <Vanhayes> #m Durka Durka Durka Durka Durka
00:38 <armabot> Vanhayes: The operation succeeded.
00:38 <noob7> #m
00:38 <armabot> noob7: (later tell <nick> <text>) -- Tells <nick> <text> the next time <nick> is in seen. <nick> can contain wildcard characters, and the first matching nick will be given the note.
00:43 <Vanhayes> #messages
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00:58 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
00:58 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 72°F / 22°C | Humidity: 57% | Pressure: 30.12in / 1020hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h | Updated: 7:00 PM ADT; Tonight - A few clouds. Fog patches overnight. Low 12C(54F).; Tuesday - Sunny. High 26C(79F) except 22C(72F) along the coast. UV index 6 or high. Tuesday night clear. Wind southwest 20 km/h (12 mph). Low 13C(55F).; (1 more message)
00:58 <Vanhayes> #more
00:58 <armabot> Vanhayes: Wednesday - Sunny. High 22C(72F).;
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00:59 <Vanhayes_> #armaservers
00:59 <armabot> Vanhayes_: This data is 20 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (11/14), ~"XzL.Clan The Server (7/12), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (6/12), >3D> Eternal Destiny Clan Server ~{DF}~ (6/16), Wild West =Fortress Shootout= (5/12), Fortress Café (5/32), ~Clan~ ~7S~ ~7evin Sinz~ (4/16), Swampland II (4/8), Wild West =Capture The Flag= (4/10), Wild West =Capture The Flag= ~Multi~Mode~ (4/16), Chico's Brake (1 more message)
01:01 <Vanhayes_> Durka: pong
01:01 <Durka> :)
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01:04 <xfroggy> Durka, -.-
01:05 <Durka> xfroggy: -.-
01:05 <xfroggy> Durka, you need look up the definition of the word "quit"
01:05 <Durka> x, i don't see you quitting
01:05 <Durka> xD
01:06 <xfroggy> I said I might be
01:06 <xfroggy> I never said I did.
01:06 <xfroggy> unlike some people ^^^
01:07 <Vanhayes_> hmm, when is the ladle starting up again?
01:09 <Durka> beats me
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01:19 <Vanhayes_> #finc 85
01:19 <armabot> Vanhayes_: 29.4444444444
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01:26 <noob7> I know durka just signed off on msn and quit IRC, someone get him back online... :(
01:35 <Vanhayes_> DURKA GET BACK HERE
01:35 <Vanhayes_> oh well, did my best
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01:48 * noob7 bows to Vanhayes
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04:54 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 10/45 * 60.0
04:54 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 13.3333333333
04:54 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 10.0/45 * 60.0
04:54 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 13.3333333333
04:54 <Lucifer_arma> noob7: for $10, you can have 13 minutes of my time
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05:49 <Vanhayes_> #night
05:49 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes_!
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06:55 <spidey> z-man-work, wrtlprnft, next time al asks you for help with whatever he's attempting to do
06:56 <spidey> that all he has to do is include the ladder stuff in his site since 2.8.2 still has the ladder
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06:56 <spidey> his "script" is forking, over and over =/
07:28 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, ping
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10:37 <kidanger> #lastseen -ed-
10:37 <armabot> kidanger: timed out
10:37 <kidanger> aw aw aw
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16:33 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: pong
16:37 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, is there a way you can do port redirection with dns records?
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18:12 <eddiefantastic> what's up?
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18:53 <noob7> eddie are you here?
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19:45 <MrBougo> hiho tramshed
19:45 <spidey> <unsober> you farging cork sucking friend ice!
19:45 <spidey> <unsober> :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
19:45 <spidey> <unsober> youre such a grenade
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20:10 <MrBougo> bye
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22:34 <Lucifer_arma> man, I'm going to get another intro to vectors lecture, I just know it
22:35 * Lucifer_arma is really sick of "this is a vector, this is how you add vectors graphically, even though it's totally useless, this is how you add them algebraically, etc"
22:35 <Lucifer_arma> hell, you can't even take this class without having already taken at least 2 classes that worked with vectors, and a third class at least concurrently enrolled that is all vectors
22:36 <Lucifer_arma> so why do we get another "this is a vector" lecture? :(
22:37 <Lucifer_arma> at least that's going to be half of the first test
Log from 2007-08-29:
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00:30 <GodTodd> hrmm
00:30 * GodTodd wonders why he's getting a buttload of sets instead of just one sorted one :/
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01:37 <noob7> does anyone know how to make a google aps type own domain deal thingy open for sign ups?
01:38 <noob7> looks like you can only generate user accounts by hand so they can use the "gmail @ youdomain.com" but not allow them to sign up by themself
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01:54 <noob7> you guys are 7h behind and noone answering? :/
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02:09 <spidey> Your_mom_arma, was you player 1?
02:13 <Your_mom_arma> not recently
02:22 <tramshed> hah
02:22 <tramshed> your mom
02:56 <Vanhayes_> #weather saint john
02:56 <armabot> Vanhayes_: Temperature: 61°F / 16°C | Humidity: 57% | Pressure: 30.16in / 1021hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h | Updated: 9:00 PM ADT; Tonight - Clear. Low 12C(54F).; Wednesday - Sunny. Wind becoming southwest 20 km/h (12 mph) in the afternoon. High 22C(72F) except 26C(79F) inland. UV index 7 or high. Wednesday night cloudy periods. Fog patches (1 more message)
02:56 <Vanhayes_> #more
02:56 <armabot> Vanhayes_: along the coast. Wind southwest 20 km/h (12 mph) becoming light overnight. Low 15C(59F).; Thursday - A mix of sun and cloud. High 22C(72F).;
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04:15 <spidey> omg what have i done?!?!
04:15 <spidey> i installed that armagetronad game again
04:15 <spidey> >.<
05:02 <DrJoeTron> i actually linked Armagetron to steam
05:13 <spidey> huh?
05:13 <spidey> how?
05:23 <Lucifer_arma> noob7: maybe nobody here knows?
05:23 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: are you trying to use a standard sort function?
05:23 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: psycho
05:24 <Lucifer_arma> DrJoeTron: how did you like the taste of my flavored pubic hairs?
05:24 <Lucifer_arma> Lucifer_arma: stfu
05:28 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, i am not
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: yes, you are
05:37 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: something like this -> for categories in sorted(set(category)):
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> what's the signature of sorted() ?
05:38 <GodTodd> dunno...i plagiarized that out of pilgrim's book ;)
05:39 <GodTodd> or it might have been the python tut
05:39 <GodTodd> one of those
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> it's not uncommon, although it is weird imo, for a stock sort function to return references to the same type it sorts
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> did you do a len() on each item you got out to see how many items were in it?
05:42 <GodTodd> def categoryWalk(parent, outFile, level):
05:42 <GodTodd> # category = {}
05:42 <GodTodd> for node in parent.childNodes:
05:42 <GodTodd> if node.nodeType == Node.ELEMENT_NODE:
05:42 <GodTodd> if node.nodeName == 'RecipieType':
05:42 <GodTodd> for child in node.childNodes:
05:43 <GodTodd> if child.nodeType == Node.TEXT_NODE:
05:43 <GodTodd> category[child.nodeValue] = child.nodeValue
05:43 <GodTodd> outFile.write("Recipe Category: ")
05:43 <GodTodd> categoryWalk(node, outFile, level+1)
05:43 <GodTodd> categoryList = set(category)
05:43 <GodTodd> print categoryList
05:43 <GodTodd> # strCategory = string.join(categoryList)
05:43 <GodTodd> # outFile.write(strCategory)
05:43 <GodTodd> # outFile.write('\n')
05:43 <GodTodd> # for categories in sorted(set(category)):
05:43 <GodTodd> # print categories
05:43 <GodTodd> # strCategory = string.join(set(category))
05:43 <armabot> GodTodd: You've given me 5 invalid commands within the last minute; I'm now ignoring you for 10 minutes.
05:44 <GodTodd> # outFile.write(strCategory)
05:44 <GodTodd> grrr
05:44 <GodTodd> sorry
05:44 <GodTodd> http://www.pastebin.ca/674319 <-- what was supposed to paaste
05:44 <GodTodd> it prints what i want...just like 20 times instead of once
05:44 <GodTodd> so it seems like a logical looping thing
05:45 <Lucifer_arma> if node.nodeName == 'RecipieType': <--- misspelled
05:46 <GodTodd> yep
05:46 <GodTodd> cuz it's misspelled in the xml that karen gave me ;)
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> are you trying to end up with a sorted dict?
05:46 * Lucifer_arma hasn't used sets in python
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> ah, I see, I think
05:47 <GodTodd> essentially...yes...i want to hae a non-duplicate listt o eventually tie to a dropdown menu in the ui
05:47 <GodTodd> have*
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> I would recommend either building your own data type that'll allow you to retrieve the information sorted, or this, which is what you'd put in your own data type anyway:
05:48 <GodTodd> (once i unpuzzle how to tie python to pyqt ;))
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> wait a minute, nvm that. Well, not completely, if your categories have any real use, you're going to need a custom data type anyway
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> in the meantime, you could just store them in a list instead, which supports simple string sorting
05:49 <GodTodd> they're going to be a method of manipulating the big list of recipes
05:49 <GodTodd> (list by category thing)
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> also, if you're sorting for the purpose of displaying in pyqt, don't bother, let qt do the sort for you
05:50 * GodTodd is still mystified by qt :/
05:50 <Lucifer_arma> heh
05:50 <Lucifer_arma> then fine, do your own sort, but hang on a bit. One thing is you might want to wait a few weeks and let it cook, since you're taking that data structures class
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> are categories just strings, then?
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> how are you linking the recipes themselves to the categories?
05:51 <GodTodd> yeah...they're string elements ripped from an xml doc
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> internally, I mean, not in xml
05:51 <GodTodd> dunno
05:51 <GodTodd> heh
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> ah
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> here's what I'd do. :) That doesn't mean its good, though.
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05:51 <Lucifer_arma> Create a Recipe object and a Category object
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> in Category, put a list of weakrefs to recipes in that category
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> then have a master list of not weakrefs to every recipe
05:52 <GodTodd> weakrefs?
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> that master list should be a custom data type that uses various algorithms for speeding access to the recipes themselves
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, check the weakref module
05:53 <GodTodd> k
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> the idea is that you'll need to be able to iterate through the list of recipes, but if you store them internally as a tree, it'll be really annoying
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> so you store the tree anyway, but you use the weakref module
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> if there's a callback (I think there is) for when an object is going to be garbage-collected, use it to emit the signal to the UI that the data has changed when a recipe is deleted
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> so you now have a RecipeList and a CategoryTree object, right?
05:54 <GodTodd> sure :)
05:55 <Lucifer_arma> Category should have a __cmp__ method for each category, and a Category shoud have a list of children, which is what gives you the tree
05:55 <Lucifer_arma> the list of children should definitely start as a simple [] list, which has a built-in sort method
05:55 <Lucifer_arma> by giving a __cmp__ method in Category, the built-in sort method can be used to sort the list
05:56 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, that's what I'd do. :)
05:56 <GodTodd> hmmm
05:56 <Lucifer_arma> you could get there quicker by just using a [] list for RecipeList and going back over it later with your new class, because RecipeList needs to mimic [] anyway
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> but you may find it easier to just sit on until you've gotten a ways into your data structures class, because you'll probably talk about similar data layouts to what you've got here
05:57 <GodTodd> true
05:58 * GodTodd still hasn't figured out how to link his working recipeName list to the ui :/
05:58 <GodTodd> heh
05:58 <Lucifer_arma> you need to override QAbstractModel, more than likely
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> where your subclass takes your recipeName list and returns all the information the model is expected to return
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> then you just attach the model to a view and let qt do the work
05:59 <GodTodd> what's the multiline comment in python again?
06:00 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: yeah probably
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> http://doc.trolltech.com/4.3/model-view-model-subclassing.html
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> ''' <--- multiline comment delimiter
06:00 <GodTodd> that's right :)
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> that's 3 '
06:01 <GodTodd> yeah
06:02 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma its an aquired taste
06:02 <DrJoeTron> spidey upgrade steam
06:03 <DrJoeTron> spidey then you can incorporate shortcuts into steam
06:03 <DrJoeTron> so you can clean up your desktop and have steam manage your game shortcuts
06:03 <DrJoeTron> as well as other shortcuts
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: also, I'd recommend fixing spelling errors whenever they appear
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> the only thing that sucks more than discovering your program doesn't work because you misspelled something is finding out it doesn't work because you spelled something correctly
06:05 <GodTodd> yeah...i just haven't gotten the gumption to go through the xml and fix it yet
06:05 <GodTodd> i plan on it tho
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> sed does wonders :)
06:06 * GodTodd hasn't learned sed :P
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> cat thexmlfile | sed 's/Recipie/Recipe/g' > thenewxmlfile
06:07 <GodTodd> wouldn't search/replace work too?
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> sure
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> but with sed you can do:
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> for afile in `ls *.xml`; do cat blahblahetc; done;
06:08 <Lucifer_arma> sed + bash, anyway
06:08 <GodTodd> yeah...but it's one file and one word :P
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06:08 <GodTodd> i don't use an assault rifle to kill a rabbit either :)
06:08 <Lucifer_arma> it was that issue over which I wanted the right spelling of capital :)
06:08 <Lucifer_arma> but rabbits run so fast, how can you be sure to hit him with just one bullet?
06:09 <GodTodd> you wait till they stop?
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> oh no, fuck no, because then they'll bolt in any direction when you fire
06:09 <GodTodd> they're not SuperBunny
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> it's just like the monkey problem, you wait till the monkey lets go of the branch and then fire
06:09 <GodTodd> they aren't faster than a speeding bullet
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> fire right at the moment he lets go
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> they don't have to be faster than a speeding bullet, they're a small target and your aim probably has enough error for them to move just enough to get missed
06:10 <GodTodd> shit no....fire and *make* him let go :)
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> no, becuase if he lets go right after you fire, you miss
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> your bullet will go under him
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> er, wait a minute, that's not right
06:11 <GodTodd> that's why you shoot him from behind and aim for his butt
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> what's right is that you'll miss because he doesn't let go, then your bullet goes under him
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> if he's smart, anyway
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> remember that, if someone's shooting at you in the tree, your best bet if you hear the shot (and it's a subsonic gun) is to stay put
06:12 <GodTodd> and...if you aim for his torso and he doesn't let go...he'll still get hit
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> or go up
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> depends on the gun at that point
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> if the muzzle velocity is low enough, you'll miss
06:13 <GodTodd> not if he don't move :P
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> yep
06:13 <GodTodd> even *i* can hit a monkey that sits there
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> because the bullet is falling as soon as it leaves the barrel
06:14 <GodTodd> so...if he's not gonna move, aim for his head...this all depends on how high he is too :)
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, the angle you aim at matters, but gravity is the same either way
06:15 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, wait, the higher he is, the higher you have to aim to compensate
06:15 <GodTodd> right
06:15 <Lucifer_arma> but if you aim right at his torso and then shoot as he lets go of the branch, you'll hit
06:15 <Lucifer_arma> because he's falling at the same rate the bullet's falling
06:16 <GodTodd> right
06:16 * GodTodd notes how deftly we changed from talking about python to talking about physics.
06:17 * Lucifer_arma notes he just got home from working in a physics lab
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> doing homework for statics, and realizing maybe I should pay more attention to the upcoming "this is a vector" lecture
06:17 * GodTodd notes he just got home from an ever exciting intro to humanities class
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> wait a minute, you shouldn't have to aim higher just because he's higher, you should only aim higher for increasing distance between you and him
06:19 <GodTodd> you have to compensate for his intelligence or lack thereof :P
06:19 <Lucifer_arma> I can see why you'd want to hack python after such a class
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06:19 <Lucifer_arma> hey, if the only useful thing I learned from physics was to go up when somebody shoots at me, I'd call it a good thing
06:20 <GodTodd> heh
06:20 <DrJoeTron> hey guys
06:20 <DrJoeTron> bug for you to fix
06:20 <Stewie-arma> rofl luci I now see what you mean by the young people play high rubber deathmatch
06:20 <DrJoeTron> theres a way to bypass color_filter_strings
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> Stewie-arma: I'm almost afraid to ask what happened
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> DrJoeTron: besides sucking on my left nipple?
06:21 <DrJoeTron> yeah
06:21 <Stewie-arma> lol, don't worry I just went in and asked everyones age, and they were all between 9-12
06:21 <Stewie-arma> then they kept on being all touchy feely
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> heh
06:22 <DrJoeTron> i'll pm it to you
06:22 * Lucifer_arma wonders what the average age of the SP clan is
06:22 <Stewie-arma> "I love you HellBlade"
06:22 <Stewie-arma> lol
06:22 <GodTodd> 3?
06:22 <Stewie-arma> lucifer sorry but you have to split that up into divisions and then deathmatch and fort
06:22 <GodTodd> i love you Stewie-arma :)
06:23 <Stewie-arma> rofl
06:23 <Stewie-arma> that's a little weird coming from someone who isn't 12
06:23 <Stewie-arma> rofl
06:23 <Stewie-arma> are you talking about SP Arma luci?
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> ummm, how old are you?
06:24 * GodTodd meant it and now you've hurt my feelings :(
06:24 <Stewie-arma> a whole 15 years old,
06:24 <Stewie-arma> I'm an old geezer for deathmatch in sp
06:24 <Stewie-arma> ;P
06:25 <Stewie-arma> but still they act younger than how old they are...
06:25 <GodTodd> online predator disclaimer: any sexual advances made by me upon anyone in this channel is to be considered a joke and not at all serious unless you are 18 years of age or older, female and hot.
06:27 <Stewie-arma> this is true todd
06:27 <GodTodd> hrmm...that might be a nice alias
06:27 <GodTodd> :)
06:27 -!- Stewie-arma is now known as eighteen
06:27 <GodTodd> #alias add disclaimer echo online predator disclaimer: any sexual advances made by me upon anyone in this channel is to be considered a joke and not at all serious unless you are 18 years of age or older, female and hot.
06:27 <armabot> GodTodd: The operation succeeded.
06:27 -!- eighteen is now known as eighteenandhawt
06:27 <GodTodd> #disclaimer
06:27 <armabot> online predator disclaimer: any sexual advances made by me upon anyone in this channel is to be considered a joke and not at all serious unless you are 18 years of age or older, female and hot.
06:27 <eighteenandhawt> lol
06:28 <eighteenandhawt> hey todd
06:28 <eighteenandhawt> rofl
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> you might want to change that to *anti*online predator disclaimer
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> #quote get 21
06:28 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #21: "<Luke-Jr_work__> btw, pedophile is good" (added by spidey at 06:34 AM, September 09, 2006)
06:28 <GodTodd> #alias add disclaimer echo anti-online predator disclaimer: any sexual advances made by me upon anyone in this channel is to be considered a joke and not at all serious unless you are 18 years of age or older, female and hot.
06:28 <armabot> GodTodd: The operation succeeded.
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> the thing I hate most about a new mouse is breaking in the scrollwheel
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> #disclaimer
06:28 <GodTodd> #disclaimer
06:28 <armabot> anti-online predator disclaimer: any sexual advances made by me upon anyone in this channel is to be considered a joke and not at all serious unless you are 18 years of age or older, female and hot.
06:28 <armabot> anti-online predator disclaimer: any sexual advances made by me upon anyone in this channel is to be considered a joke and not at all serious unless you are 18 years of age or older, female and hot.
06:28 <GodTodd> heh
06:29 <GodTodd> any chicks can add their own :P
06:29 * Lucifer_arma asks DrJoeTron for his ID
06:29 <eighteenandhawt> hey todd hows it going
06:29 <eighteenandhawt> rofl
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> well, genki hasn't been coming here
06:29 <eighteenandhawt> but she isn't 18 or over
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> doesn't mean she doesn't need her own
06:29 <GodTodd> hot == hawt like calculus == toast
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> man, there's this chick in my statics class.....I think she's the only one....
06:30 -!- eighteenandhawt is now known as eighteenandhot
06:30 <eighteenandhot> rofl lucifer
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, and then the instructor's assistant in my martial arts class
06:30 <DrJoeTron> ID for wut
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> I need to see that before I open my pants in your direction
06:30 <eighteenandhot> to bad you're married
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> more like too bad I'm currently undersexed
06:31 <GodTodd> hand fall asleep? :D
06:31 * GodTodd waits for DrJoeTron's rimjob...er...rim*shot* ;)
06:31 <DrJoeTron> GodTodd i cant fill your scat needs, you know this
06:32 <GodTodd> golden shower at least?
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> but you fill his cat's needs
06:32 <DrJoeTron> take me on a date first :I
06:32 <GodTodd> fuck no
06:32 <eighteenandhot> lucifer here is a good idea of what deathmatch players act like: http://speederclan.5.forumer.com/index.php?showtopic=5933
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> do I really want to see this?
06:32 <GodTodd> waste money on you? you can't be serious
06:32 <eighteenandhot> actually you might not be able to
06:32 <eighteenandhot> hmmmm
06:33 <GodTodd> yeah...cuz yer not in the in crowd....it's a No-Lucifer_arma's club ;)
06:33 <eighteenandhot> rofl
06:33 <GodTodd> bah...i must be tired...i pet peeved myself :/
06:33 <GodTodd> yeah...cuz yer not in the in crowd....it's a No-Lucifer_armas club ;)
06:33 <GodTodd> there...that's better
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> you know, we act like that here a lot
06:34 <eighteenandhot> but not all the time do you?
06:34 * GodTodd never pretended to act his age...
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> ummm, SP doesn't act like that all the time either
06:34 <eighteenandhot> those members do lol
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> that's more like 18-and-dumb behavior than 9-12 normal behavior
06:35 * Lucifer_arma thinks if he acted his age just once, the world would stop moving
06:35 * GodTodd doesn't want to act his age when there's a bunch of people in here that are young enough to have been fathered by him :/
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, if you were sexually active at 14
06:36 <GodTodd> 32-15==17, for example
06:36 <eighteenandhot> I'm pretty sure this is 18-and-dumb behavior (http://www.collegehumor.com/)
06:36 <eighteenandhot> todd you're 15?
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> I'm pretty sure you're not old enough to know what I mean. :) You have to be at least 30 to understand what 18-and-dumb means :)
06:36 <GodTodd> and i had a friend in AZ who had a 5 year old daughter when she was 19
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> was she hot?
06:37 <GodTodd> eighteenandhot: ummm yeah....17 years and counting :)
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> your friend, not the daughter
06:37 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: pretty hot, yeah
06:38 <GodTodd> got to thinking about that the other day....that 5 year old is like 18 and graduating high school right now :/
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> and can go clubbing with her mom :)
06:38 <GodTodd> broke my hip just thinking about it
06:38 <GodTodd> heh
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> at least your wrist survived
06:39 <GodTodd> hell...knowing that family, the mom is probably grandma now ;)
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> oh shit, I just realized there's a pubescent boy next door with a broken wrist, how is he going to survive?
06:39 <GodTodd> left or right?
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> left
06:39 <GodTodd> is he left handed?
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> but I think he's right-handed
06:39 <GodTodd> if he's right handed, he'll be fine
06:39 <GodTodd> if not....gonna be a long 6 weeks or so
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> he's young enough that he probably hasn't discovered the joy of crnaking it with your offhand yet
06:40 <GodTodd> er...he's a kid...might just be like 3 weeks :)
06:40 * GodTodd crnaks all the time...
06:40 <GodTodd> :D
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> crnaking is good for the soul
06:40 <eighteenandhot> I still haven't crnaked with my offhand yet
06:40 <GodTodd> not good for the people waiting on the bathroom
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> so, the class I'm working this semester is being taught by the teacher I took in the spring
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> he told his class that I barely passed the engineering class :/
06:41 <GodTodd> did you?
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> eighteenandhot: you should try it sometime, it's like someone else doing it to you
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: yeah, but that was doing like 1.5 homeworks
06:41 <GodTodd> if they have big, manly, hairy hands...
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> if I had done just 2.5 more homeworks, I'd have probably pulled a low A
06:42 <GodTodd> ahh
06:42 <GodTodd> well...do homework :P
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> last spring was...er...yeah, I'll do more homework
06:42 * Lucifer_arma wasn't happy with his grade
06:42 * GodTodd can bet not
06:42 <GodTodd> that's why i got a c in precal
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> especially for such an easy class
06:42 <GodTodd> didn't do homework
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> man, that sucks
06:43 <GodTodd> just for the gpa
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> I mean, nothing feels worse than getting a shitty grade knowing you could have done better
06:43 <GodTodd> which won't transfer anyway
06:43 <GodTodd> and precal was just to get to calc anyway
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> doesn't mean they won't look at it anyway
06:43 <GodTodd> nah...they'd look at calc I and II first
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> but this physics class was in the basic sequence for engineering, so that grade's going to follow me around and stare at me
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06:44 <GodTodd> and as long as i hold a 3.0 or better they'll be goo
06:44 <GodTodd> d
06:44 <GodTodd> you get a C in it?
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> well, maybe by getting an A in statics and Eng Phys 2 they'll ignore the C :)
06:45 <GodTodd> they call yours engineering physics?
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> the calc-based stuff, yeah
06:45 <GodTodd> ours is university physics
06:45 <GodTodd> heh
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> college physics here is algebra-based
06:45 <GodTodd> that's general physics here
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> no calculus. They throw some limits in the text, but don't make you do anything with it
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> well, the full class titles are General College Physics 1/2
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> (that's 1 or 2, not one half)
06:46 <GodTodd> ours is General Physics (for non-scientific folks) and University Physics (for the fart smellers)
06:46 <GodTodd> 1 and 2 as well
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> is gen physics a prereq for uni physics?
06:46 <GodTodd> for both
06:46 <GodTodd> no
06:46 <GodTodd> calc I and II
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> ah, college physics is prereq for eng physics
06:47 <GodTodd> they're totally separate
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> but the instructors don't bother checking prereqs
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06:47 <Lucifer_arma> the only instructors that check prereqs are in welfare courses like history and government and english
06:48 <GodTodd> yeah...most here figure that you'll know real quick if you can handle it or you'll fail and take the prereq before trying again ;)
06:48 <eighteenandhot> finally a rapper with lessons: http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1767003
06:49 * Lucifer_arma wonders why he'd want to click on a link that leads to a rapper
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> *crapper
06:49 * GodTodd doesn't click any link given by luke-jr or with 'rapper' in it
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> *crap rapper
06:49 <eighteenandhot> lol
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> *ass rapper
06:49 <GodTodd> ass raper?
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> no, rapper
06:49 <eighteenandhot> cmon it's about reading a mutha fuckin book
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> not wrapper, either
06:49 <GodTodd> crap wrapper?
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> you're too young to use language like that
06:50 <GodTodd> why are you saving your crap?
06:50 <eighteenandhot> rofl lucifer, I learned the word fuck when I was 7
06:50 <GodTodd> you sick motherfucker
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> christmas present?
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> you're too old to use language like that
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> geezer
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> geezergeezergeezer
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> goozer
06:50 <GodTodd> shit, fuck, satan, death, sex, drugs, rape
06:51 * GodTodd notes that he always relates to the song "1985"
06:51 <GodTodd> :/
06:51 <GodTodd> that and "High School Never Ends"
06:51 * Lucifer_arma notes that he never relates to the song "Party like it's 1999"
06:52 <GodTodd> nah...prince is gay
06:52 <Lucifer_arma> that and "I wish I were dead because my life sucks like a bitch"
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06:52 <GodTodd> heh...that quit message would get him reprimanded in #ubuntu
06:53 <Lucifer_arma> you can't be reprimanded for a quit message, because you're gone!
06:53 <GodTodd> they'd flag it and do it if you came back
06:53 <GodTodd> :)
06:54 <DrJoeTron> when can I get access to the dev forums :I
06:55 <GodTodd> nevar!
06:55 <GodTodd> you a dev?
06:55 <DrJoeTron> as much as luke-jr is :V
06:56 <GodTodd> nah...he's an "esteemed former dev" or smth like that
06:56 <DrJoeTron> he was de dev'd?
06:56 <DrJoeTron> where the fuck have i been?
06:56 <GodTodd> dunno...there was talk about it
06:56 <GodTodd> dunno where it ended up tho
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, according to this site, the chick that played Chon Wang's wife in Shanghai Noon is native american
07:00 * GodTodd wouldn't know.
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> smth?
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> smith?
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> smooth?
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> smithers?
07:01 <GodTodd> smth == luke-jr for something
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> sumith?
07:01 <GodTodd> i think
07:02 <GodTodd> dnt knw y ppl cnt jst typ teh wrds tehy sy
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07:03 <luke-jr> m ethr
07:04 <GodTodd> maybe it bugs me because i've been online so long and seen too many stupid abbreviations typed in by morons
07:04 <GodTodd> speaking of :)
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> I know why it bugs me
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> #last --from luke-jr --nolimit
07:04 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: [07:09:17] <luke-jr> m ethr
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> it bugs me because people actually expect you to understand that crap
07:05 <GodTodd> i blame aol
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> in many cases, these are the same people who get all xenophobic when they have a math teacher from India
07:05 <GodTodd> yep
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> "His accent is hard to understand!"
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> "you're a fucking moron!"
07:06 * GodTodd agrees.
07:07 <GodTodd> some of the best math teachers i've had had thick accents
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> I don't really even notice accents anymore
07:07 <GodTodd> i do, if they're thick enough
07:07 <GodTodd> not enough to have to struggle to understand tho
07:07 <GodTodd> but it's like "hey, cool accent" :)
07:08 <GodTodd> like the russian guy i had this summer
07:08 <GodTodd> his accent rocked
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> I like this physics teacher's romanian accent, it's fucking cool
07:08 <GodTodd> yah...romanian is damn cool too
07:09 <GodTodd> it's a lot like russian, really
07:09 <Lucifer_arma> maybe the accent is, but the language is a romance language
07:10 <GodTodd> yeah...i was looking at accent
07:10 <GodTodd> :)
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> actually, there was something about his accent that irritated me, and it still does
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> he writes his W's in the german way
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> as two overlapping Vs
07:10 <GodTodd> ahah
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> it's not so much that it's foreign that it irritates me, it irritates me because I don't read it as double-u, I read it as duble-vay
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> then get confused
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> I should never have to translate a letter written in a european fashion from spanish to figure out what it is!
07:12 <GodTodd> heh
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> not his fault though
07:13 <GodTodd> phew
07:13 <GodTodd> that one fucking stunk
07:19 <GodTodd> did you smell that?
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> nah, sorry
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> maybe tomorrow, if there's a good southerly breeze
07:19 <GodTodd> damn...need more garlic and onions then :)
07:21 * GodTodd wonders how many more classes will teach him conversion factors :/
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> I've got at least one more, chemistry :(
07:27 <GodTodd> yeah...they definitely cover that there
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12:05 <qxdtz> luke-jr, bad
12:05 <qxdtz> pay pay
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16:41 <luke-jr> anyone want to help me crack RC4?
16:41 <P4> RC4 of what? :P
16:42 <P4> is there any armagetron 0.3.x RC4? :> with serial number support? :P
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16:46 <luke-jr> P4: RC4 is an cipher
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17:05 <P4|away> i thought you're talking about some release candidate ;) ok cya for now
17:05 <P4|away> btw isn't it MD4? :P
17:08 <luke-jr> no
17:08 <luke-jr> RC4
17:08 <luke-jr> MD4 isn't a cipher, it's a hash
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20:35 <spidey> #svn
20:35 <armabot> svn co https://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad <dirname>(more information: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Working_with_SVN)
21:11 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
21:11 <armabot> Vanhayes: This data is 32 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (11/14), Norm's Place (10/12), Wild West =Capture The Flag= (10/10), ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Fortress {100MBit} (9/16), ë | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ì/xff9900 (9/16), WildCat (7/16), brschmogul (5/16), Wild West =Sumo= (5/14), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (5/12), Wild West =Fortress Shootout= (4/12), Tigers (1 more message)
21:11 <Vanhayes> #tea
21:11 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: No online players.
21:11 <Lucifer_arma> #coffee
21:12 <Lucifer_arma> #beer
21:12 <Lucifer_arma> #vangaynus
21:19 <spidey> lol
21:39 <qxdtz> xD
21:47 <Lucifer_arma> man, why can't all teachers put their syllabi on websites?
21:47 <Lucifer_arma> at least now I know which book to get for my speech class, but I still don't know about comp2 and chemistry
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21:52 * GodTodd just gets the one's the school tells PJ's they're gonna use ;)
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01:28 <Vanhayes_> #weather saint john
01:28 <armabot> Vanhayes_: Temperature: 64°F / 18°C | Humidity: 68% | Pressure: 30.07in / 1018hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 9mph / 15km/h | Updated: 8:00 PM ADT; Tonight - A few clouds. Fog patches developing this evening. Wind southwest 20 km/h (12 mph) becoming light this evening. Low 14C(57F).; Thursday - Sunny with cloudy periods. Increasing cloudiness in the afternoon. Fog (1 more message)
01:28 <Vanhayes_> #more
01:28 <armabot> Vanhayes_: patches retreating to the coast. Wind becoming southwest 20 km/h (12 mph) in the afternoon. High 21C(70F) except 26C(79F) inland. UV index 7 or high. Thursday night cloudy. 60 percent chance of showers overnight. Fog patches. Wind southwest 20 km/h (12 mph) becoming light in the evening. Low 15C(59F).; Friday - Showers. High 20C(68F).;
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02:39 <Stewie-arma> homework sucks...
02:39 <Stewie-arma> I have to write a biography on a girl I met two days ago and is due tomorrow...
02:41 <luke-jr> wtf
02:43 <Stewie-arma> luckily I got a page of notes, and half page of quotes to put into it.
02:43 <Stewie-arma> that will get me a solid 4 pages...
03:02 <Vanhayes_> you have to write a biography on someone you met?
03:08 <Stewie-arma> just met yeah
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04:19 <Lucifer_arma> is she hot?
04:19 <Stewie-arma> semi
04:20 <Lucifer_arma> and you only have a half page of quotes and a page of notes?
04:20 <Lucifer_arma> man
04:20 <Lucifer_arma> you need to work on your communicate-with-hot-chicks skills
04:20 <Stewie-arma> right now I'm just trying to get through the first week of school with an A+
04:22 <Stewie-arma> my school sucks, they say they aren't going to five us hw at all, yet I've gotten about 2-4 hours of homework per night
04:22 <Stewie-arma> stupid sophpmores
04:23 <Stewie-arma> lolz
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05:33 <Lucifer_arma> stupid <insert your favorite hate group here>
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> now I need a 54-inch cylinder that's one inch in diameter
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: give me your penis
05:34 <Stewie-arma> hmmm how did I miss-spell sophomores?
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> being stupid and sophomoric, no doubt
05:34 <Stewie-arma> exactly
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> "There's been a lot of progress made, and that's what people have go to understand," <--- bush has a scottish accent
05:36 <Stewie-arma> was that him on the Iraq war?
05:37 <Stewie-arma> almost done with my biography
05:37 <Stewie-arma> well her biography
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05:45 <Lucifer_arma> no, that was him on n'arleans
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.amazon.com/60-Hardwood-Jo-Staff-inches/dp/B0000CA2PY/ref=sr_1_1/104-3212751-7242364?ie=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1188446014&sr=1-1
05:48 * Lucifer_arma thinks that after only 2 days of this martial arts class, he already knows more about japanese martial arts than luke-jr will ever know
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> (it's an aikido based class)
05:49 <GodTodd> nawlins
05:50 <GodTodd> class aikido extends martialArts?
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, followed by class MartialArtsWeaponry extends Aikido
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> he says he's teaching us real martial arts, not sporting martial arts, so we won't be fighting one another
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> I wonder if that means I"ll know how to kill with one of these things when I'm done with the class
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> he's all into the philosophy though, which is pretty cool
05:53 <GodTodd> one of what things?
05:57 <GodTodd> that's the brunt of martial arts
05:58 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, true, but, see, do I know how to kill with a sword?
05:58 <GodTodd> sure
05:58 <Lucifer_arma> specifically, a dueling sword, such as a rapier?
05:58 <GodTodd> slash the fucker :)
05:58 <Lucifer_arma> I don't think so. I think I know how to do a few neat things with it, and I could probably defend myself with a sword in the style that I've learned against anybody unfamiliar with the weapon
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> but can I kill someone with it? Not intentionally, I don't think.
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> I've learned it as a sport, which is different, and I'm not terribly experienced either.
06:00 <GodTodd> truly
06:00 * GodTodd feels better about his govt II class than he did about govt I
06:01 <GodTodd> the teacher is a political consultant that works for congressmen
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> that's fun :)
06:10 <GodTodd> in fact...today he had a congressman ignore his advice on calling for that gay senator's resignation....now other people are making the headlines cuz they did it first
06:10 <GodTodd> heh
06:11 <GodTodd> last night/today was when the congressman asked him about it
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> haha
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> he needs to resign not because he's gay, but because he's fucking in airport restrooms
06:11 <GodTodd> that and calling male escorts
06:11 <GodTodd> and lying
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> if I can't fuck my wife in an airport restroom, a damn lawmaker can't solicit sex from random individuals there either!
06:12 <GodTodd> and just an all-around republican :)
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, seems to be pretty much the standard for republican behavior these days, doesn't it?
06:13 <GodTodd> that's what the teacher was pointing out...the gop has really been taking it up the ass (no pun intended, really!) lately
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> well, he says he's training us to fight multiple attackers at least
06:13 <GodTodd> martial arts is really for defense anyway
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> sorry if I'm more interested in martial arts than politics right now, but the two are related after all
06:13 <GodTodd> in case you get mugged
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06:14 <Lucifer_arma> I'm really going to carry around a 54-inch stick "in case I get mugged"
06:14 <GodTodd> hell...i hate politics personally...i only take this shit cuz i have to ;)
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> definitely considering taking a hand-to-hand class in the spring
06:14 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: sure, why not?
06:14 <GodTodd> you can rest assured you *won't* get mugged then :)
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> well, it might be illegal :)
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> I wanted to start carrying a rapier, but it turns out they're illegal to carry
06:14 <GodTodd> that's what, 4.5 ft?
06:15 <GodTodd> call it a walking stick :)
06:15 <Lucifer_arma> I asked a cop if they enforced it, and he said they would (just one cop though)
06:15 <Lucifer_arma> it's a little long for a walking stick
06:15 <GodTodd> ok...walking *staff*
06:15 <GodTodd> ;)
06:15 <Lucifer_arma> no doubt I'd carry one if I knew I was going someplace potentially dangerous
06:15 <Lucifer_arma> if I know how to use it, and I'm going someplace known potentially dangerous, I'm stupid not to take it
06:15 <GodTodd> anymore *any*where is potentially dangerous :/
06:16 <Lucifer_arma> but I don't know how to use it yet :)
06:16 <Lucifer_arma> amazon's only got 1 of the appropriate length
06:16 <GodTodd> i don't either...but if i had to use one in an emergency, i think i could figure it out enough ;)
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> the rest are too short :(
06:17 <GodTodd> you're like a chick looking for a date
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> I'll see how much it is with shipping, if it's not too bad, I'll just order one
06:17 <GodTodd> only one guy has a big enough dick
06:17 <GodTodd> the rest are itty bitty
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> well, amazon's got plenty that are too long too, I'm just not mentioning those because they're called something else
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> so they're not in my search
06:19 <GodTodd> heh
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> the problem with amazon reviewers is you don't know if they know what they're talking about
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> especially when they're talking trash
06:20 <GodTodd> yeah
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> and when you don't know much about the subject, it's hard to tell which reviewer's got truth on his side and which don't
06:21 <GodTodd> "i, like, ordered this beaver, right, and instead of a chick's snatch they sent me this weird animal with buck teeth. stupid dumbheads!"
06:21 <GodTodd> ;)
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> well, question answered
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> there is apparently one and only one 54" staff available for sale on the internet
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> plenty of 50", but the teacher explicitly told us not to get one of those
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> so it's a simple question, do I want to wait for it?
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> probably should, it would be here before I could make one, and I've got to study and shit in the meantime
06:28 <GodTodd> i would
06:28 <GodTodd> how much does it go for?
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> $14
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> it has 3 reviews, one bad, and two good
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> I don't need it for fighting, though, I just need it for practice
06:30 <GodTodd> that's not bad
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> if I was going to get one for fighting, I'd definitely make one instead
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> hell, it's cheaper than a foil :)
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> $7 shipping, though
06:31 <GodTodd> wow
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> well, the damn thing's over 4' long :)
06:31 <GodTodd> true
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> hardwood, too, they're not terribly light, but not terribly heavy either
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I ordered it
06:32 <GodTodd> not exactly easy to ship :)
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> I'm sure they know what they're doing :)
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> my foil came in a really cool long and skinny box
06:32 <GodTodd> i should hope so
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> yep, definitely take a hand-to-hand class next spring so I don't wind up buying yet another weapon
06:34 <GodTodd> ah shit...i need to make sure i can log into my physics class
06:39 <Vanhayes> heh, I took a karate class for a year, I quit when I knocked over the sensei after he asked me to kick him in the chest to show how to move with a blow
06:40 <Vanhayes> he was supposed to roll with it I guess, but he just landed on his ass
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> my wife showed me how to move with a blow
06:40 <Vanhayes> I decided paying 30 some a month for that wasnt worth it
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> heh
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> these are on financial aid :)
06:41 <Vanhayes> nice
06:41 <Vanhayes> how much is it though?
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> also, being in a community college, there's some pressure to teach *something* in the semester, so they can't string you along promising to teach you something
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> being out of district, it's $120 for the semester
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> that's twice a week for 16 weeks
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> in-district is only $60
06:41 <Vanhayes> hmm, that seems pretty reasonable
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> (in-district pays a portion of their property taxes to ACC)
06:42 <Vanhayes> a semester is how long? 3, 4 monthd?
06:42 <Vanhayes> months*
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> from this week until December 16
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> otherwise, 16 weeks / 4 weeks ~= 4 months
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> I'm not interested in karate, though. I want something that I can learn to kick ass quickly, but isn't just about kicking ass
06:43 <Vanhayes> karate is all about the defense, not much offense
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> actually, I want to get in shape, that's most important, so I'm open to possibilities I may not otherwise be open to
06:44 <Vanhayes> boxing is best for getting into shape, ive found
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> I'm not interested in karate because it's been sensationalized too much
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> too many concussions. :) I want something that won't fuck me up in the process, too.
06:44 <Vanhayes> karate was the most boring thing ive ever paid to do for an hour and a half
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> boxing training might be great for getting into shape, though
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> well, I've always been interested in stick fighting, so this class is really interesting
06:45 <Vanhayes> heh, well you dont really have to box, just train and sparring will get you in good shape
06:45 <Vanhayes> ya, stick fighting would be fun
06:45 <Vanhayes> hmm, I might have to take up boxing again, i miss it
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> it also lacks the pretension I was expecting, which is neat
06:46 <GodTodd> ok...i can log in...so now i can do my homework this weekend :)
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> maybe that pretension will come out later, though
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> it is the first week, so folks are still being shy, and the teacher is pretty dominating
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> he's not aggressive or anything, he's just very assertive :)
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> ok, what I really want is a martial arts class that won't make me wear that weird kit people wear
06:47 <Vanhayes> thats the problem I found with most martial arts, the teachers are usually pretty arogant and cocky
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> I don't care how traditional it is, or how comfortable it is, or any of that crap
06:47 <Vanhayes> those helmets and gloves made of foam?
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, this guy's arrogant and cocky, but that's fine
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> no, I don't mind the protective gear
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> it's the uniform
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> the gi, is that what it's called?
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> this class doesn't have such a thing
06:48 <GodTodd> the robe?
06:48 <Vanhayes> oh, ya the gui in karate
06:48 <Vanhayes> the white thing
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> you *can* wear it if you like, and some of the kids who've been his students for a while wear it, but I'd rather not
06:48 <Vanhayes> the guy here made us wear it
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> if sweat pants and a t-shirt aren't going to cut it, I'll find a different class
06:48 <Vanhayes> I think he just wanted the extra $80 though
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> I think that shit is totally unnecessary
06:49 <GodTodd> that's the beauty of a CC class....if you have to buy something else for the class the money doesn't go into the teacher's pocket ;)
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> if it's all about the mind, then why do you have to wear the uniform?
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> indeed, they don't make you buy anything for the kinesiology classes if they don't have to, so I'm safe to take almost any martial arts here without having to buy that shit
06:50 <GodTodd> yep
06:50 <Vanhayes> I think its a mix between dicsipline and tradition
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> this staff I just ordered ws an elective purchase, I could've blown it off and bought a broomstick or something (in fact, I went to HEB to get one a little while ago, but they didn't have any)
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> I don't really need to buy anything, but this class comes with a workout I can do at home, which the fencing class didn't, really
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> but to do the workout, I need the stick, knowwhatImean? ;)
06:51 <GodTodd> bah...why learn to fight in something you wouldn't wear down the street (when you might need to use the knowledge)/
06:51 <GodTodd> ?*
06:52 <Lucifer_arma> you know, most of those martial arts kids are posers luke-jr-loves-japanese-for-no-good-reason kids
06:52 <GodTodd> yep
06:52 <Lucifer_arma> "oh hey, it's neat, it's like in the movies!"
06:53 <GodTodd> "i'ma be bruce lee or smth"
06:53 <Lucifer_arma> "I saw this in Waikaiunobunojuno!"
06:53 <GodTodd> "Poke me man!"
06:54 <Vanhayes> thats where boxing came in for me, none of the unnessesary stuff, just training and practice, wear whatever you want( within reason), and you didnt have to buy anything if extra if you didnt want to
06:54 * GodTodd never thought of that...might work up a boxing workout...
06:55 * Lucifer_arma has considered a boxing workout before
06:55 <Lucifer_arma> but stick fighting is cool! :)
06:55 <GodTodd> don't need a lot of space or equipment
06:55 <Lucifer_arma> it's your basic "anything's a weapon" art
06:55 <Vanhayes> its alot of running mostly
06:56 <GodTodd> the bouncing and punching don't hurt ;)
06:56 <Lucifer_arma> the routine we did today felt like an infantry routine, and he keeps pushing the idea that what we're learning is infantry techniques
06:56 <GodTodd> martial == military
06:56 <Lucifer_arma> yep
06:56 <Vanhayes> probably was infantry training back in the day
06:56 <GodTodd> love, the kind you clean up with a mop and bucket
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> well, it was complete with advances and stuff
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> man, it really felt like all we needed were shieldmen in between us and we could've conquered the town
06:58 <GodTodd> heh
06:58 * GodTodd has physics lecture and physics lab tomorrow
06:58 <Lucifer_arma> but it's cool, I almost worked up a sweat, and he's telling us we're going slow because it's early
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> it should get pretty hardcore later on, I hope he hurries it up
06:59 * Lucifer_arma has work tomorrow
06:59 * GodTodd is a kept man :)
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> my wife told me not to let my youngest see me practicing with a stick
06:59 <GodTodd> haha
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> what is she thinking? When I got him the foam swords and we went off
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> it totally defused him
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> he quit playing like everything was a sword and started taking it seriously
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> still, she's probably right, this would probably set him off with everything's a weapon again
07:00 <GodTodd> probably
07:01 <GodTodd> too many things look like sticks :)
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, like sticks
07:01 <GodTodd> yep :)
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> so, I got some flip-flops so I could easily deshoe for class
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> then I went and sat in my statics class (which was exceptionally boring, what with the intro-to-vectors lecture today)
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> this guy next to me was complaining about it being lukewarm, but I was freezing my toes off!
07:02 * GodTodd wears sandals during the warm months
07:02 * Lucifer_arma hasn't worn sandals or anything like that in years
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> but now I'm considering getting some real sandals, because flip-flops hurt to wear
07:03 * GodTodd hates taking more than 3 seconds to put shoes on if it can be avoided
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> but then, flip-flops are only for wearing while walking, when you're sitting you're supposed to take them off anyway :)
07:03 <GodTodd> yeah...flip flops feel like they're gonna cut my foot in half
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> they never feel stable is the problem, I think
07:03 <GodTodd> probably
07:03 <GodTodd> my sandals rock
07:03 <GodTodd> :)
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> maybe I'll go see what sort of sandals I can get at payless
07:04 <GodTodd> only problem is if they get wet...then they get slick
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> is it worth getting them really cheap?
07:04 <GodTodd> mine are 13$ ones from walmart
07:04 <GodTodd> i love them
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> better wait till spring, theoretically we're about to hit the cold season
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> might drop below 70 outside
07:05 <GodTodd> wow...i might have to start wearing shoes soon :/
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> and I've already spent enough money on shit to take this class my way
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> the rest of that financial aid is supposed to get spread out over the next few months to augment our income
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> unless these flip-flops get unwearable
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> $3 at academy, I am such a cheap bastard
07:07 <GodTodd> mine are $3 from walmart
07:07 <GodTodd> heh
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> well, I can't wear them to work, or to chemistry
07:08 * GodTodd doesn't have to use a specific java ide :)
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> same deal if I went and got sandals
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> that's cool. too bad they won't let you use any language, though ;)
07:10 <GodTodd> hrmm...am i gonna have to wear closed toed shoes for physics lab?
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> probably
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> it's a rule at my school
07:10 <GodTodd> probably is here too
07:10 <GodTodd> i'll wear shoes just in case tomorrow
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> look, you're going to be dealing with significant masses, you don't really want your toes exposed to them anyway
07:11 <GodTodd> that's what i was figuring
07:11 <Vanhayes> #night
07:11 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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07:11 * GodTodd is happy to forgo the memory-sucking programs and just use kate and the commandline
07:11 <GodTodd> :)
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> :)
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> you know, I have this text editor....
07:12 <GodTodd> haha
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> well, it doesn't do java right now
07:12 <GodTodd> kate does :P
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> and it lacks some basic features that might really irritate you
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> kate is pretty nice, though
07:12 <GodTodd> like saving and typing? ;)
07:12 <GodTodd> i like kate
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> handles saving and typing just fine :)
07:13 <Lucifer_arma> search and replace may work, I don't remember if I finished it or not
07:13 <GodTodd> heh
07:13 <Lucifer_arma> probably it should work, but doesn't, and I ran out of time
07:14 <GodTodd> i've gotten pretty used to kate for dev work now
07:14 <Lucifer_arma> you might investigate quanta sometime
07:14 <GodTodd> yeah...haven't gotten around to that yet :)
07:15 <Lucifer_arma> quanta actually has the ui I like the most, it just has a lot of junk in it for most of what I do
07:15 <Lucifer_arma> because it's centered around html/xml development, so it has a whole bunch of ui stuff for that
07:15 <Lucifer_arma> but I did use it for a long time
07:15 <GodTodd> ah
07:15 <Lucifer_arma> even for php coding
07:15 <Lucifer_arma> well, I guess that's what it's for
07:15 <Lucifer_arma> even for python coding :)
07:16 <GodTodd> :)
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> I'm a go grab a smoke, and then get to bed
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> I'm really sleepy
07:16 <GodTodd> i should too...class at 8:30
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> that statics class was boring, and the martial arts didn't quite energize me
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> maybe after that staff comes in it'll get more energetic for me
07:16 <GodTodd> perhaps
07:16 <GodTodd> :)
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> well, then I can push it at home at my own pace, rather than waiting while the instructor slows it down for one kid who's having trouble
07:17 <GodTodd> right
07:18 <Lucifer_arma> which he did today
07:18 <Lucifer_arma> heh, this girl asked if she could film him doing the form on her cell phone, so she can study it
07:18 <Lucifer_arma> I couldn't imagine, really, I couldn't. I could see wanting to sketch it out real quick on paper so you can do step-by-step
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> but what's the point of watching a video of your teacher doing it?
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, bbl, probably in the morning
07:19 <GodTodd> night
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20:24 <Lucifer_arma> So long so long and thanks--for all the fiiiiish
20:28 <Lucifer_arma> what absolutely doesn't make sense in this movie is that Ford shows up with a shopping cart full of beer to placate the construction crew, and then takes Arthur to the pub
20:28 <Lucifer_arma> why?
20:29 <Lucifer_arma> in every other version of the story, in a rare moment of consistence, Ford talks Prosser into laying in front of the bulldozer
20:29 <Lucifer_arma> they could have put in one more minute of footage to do that
20:30 <Lucifer_arma> then it wouldn't feel so completely off for Ford to show up with a shopping cart full of beer to invite Arthur to the pub
20:32 <Lucifer_arma> ah, I'll just go outside and read my textbook there rather than bitch about the hhgttg movie
20:33 <spidey> Lucifer_arma,
20:33 <Lucifer_arma> spidey:
20:33 <spidey> you talking to yourself again, or do i have the guy muted?
20:34 <spidey> hrm
20:34 <spidey> how hard would it be to password a external hdd
20:34 <Lucifer_arma> talking to myself
20:34 <Lucifer_arma> beats me
20:34 <spidey> my brother keeps taking mine and putting porn and stupid shit on it
20:34 <Lucifer_arma> probably you need to encrypt it, maybe split it into two partitions
20:35 <Lucifer_arma> one that has the client software needed to decrypt the other
20:35 <Lucifer_arma> assuming client software is needed
20:35 <Lucifer_arma> well, in your brother's case, you might get away with just making it ext3, if you've got a linux installation, that is
20:35 <Lucifer_arma> then he can't see it in windows anyway, but he might destroy it on accident in that case :/
20:35 <spidey> i do
20:35 <spidey> problem is
20:36 <spidey> i have 65gb of data on it i don't wanna lose :/
20:36 <spidey> and neither my windows, gentoo, or even servers have enough space left to hold it
20:36 <spidey> heh
20:37 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.cpc.unc.edu/restools/datasecurity/externaldrive
20:37 <spidey> it's always in use :p
20:37 <spidey> i stream music/movies from it
20:38 <Lucifer_arma> that guide isn't helpful
20:38 <Lucifer_arma> I suppose it's possible the option I want to find doesn't exist
20:39 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, maybe he's stocking the beer :p
20:39 <spidey> plus you can get liquor at a bar :D
20:39 <spidey> and brb
20:39 <spidey> updating my drivers
20:40 <Lucifer_arma> my point is whatever explanation that can be dreamed up is insufficient in light of the fact taht that scene, even in the original series, wasn't more than 5 minutes long
20:40 <Lucifer_arma> they could have cut it down a bit and still done it that way
20:40 <spidey> heh
20:40 <Lucifer_arma> I realize this is a story that's expected to be changed in new mediums, but this change just doesn't make sense
20:41 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, I'm taking my book outside so I'll quit looking for stupid mistakes in this movie instead of reading the textbook
20:41 <spidey> lol
21:03 <Lucifer_arma> too much sunlight outside to read a book :(
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01:19 <noob7> *ignoring would be the better word here I guess
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05:36 <Lucifer_arma> noob7: afaik, /ignore is a server command
05:45 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.gaycitynews.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=18768968&BRD=2729&PAG=461&dept_id=568864&rfi=6
05:47 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: nope
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/tech/news/5082291.html
05:56 <spidey> u
06:02 <Lucifer_arma> u
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> man, I just found out the only thing I *can* do for my government class is study the textbook
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07:04 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: what else were you planning on doing for your government class?
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> assignments
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> it's a distance learning class
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=191648#191648 :)
07:30 <GodTodd> ahhh...how do you do your assignments, then?
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> right now, I don't :(
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> I'll have a better answer when she posts the first one
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> she's decided to rewrite the course this fall, so instead of just sticking everything up like she'd normally do, she's having to design it first
07:37 <GodTodd> ahhh
07:37 <Lucifer_arma> which means waiting, for me. I thought that since it was distance learning, I could get an early lead in this class and then spread the remaining work out over a longer period
07:37 <Lucifer_arma> thus reducing the daily load, leaving time for the rest of my classes
07:37 * GodTodd does his physics homework online (and it's not distance learning)
07:38 <Lucifer_arma> I'll still do it, best I can of course, but I have no idea what the potential ramifications of studying the textbook too early could be
07:38 <Lucifer_arma> I might wind up waiting two weeks to take the test and having to restudy :/
07:38 <GodTodd> truly
07:38 <Lucifer_arma> my physics class had the homework online too, and it wasn't distance learning
07:38 <GodTodd> i kinda like it :)
07:38 <Lucifer_arma> but the tests are based on the textbook, the quizzes on something else for which she's posted all the potential links, but she still has to pick specific ones she wants us to do
07:38 <Lucifer_arma> then write the quizzes
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> so instead I'm mostly focusing on statics
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> it's definitely more interesting :)
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> so how does your physics thing work?
07:39 <GodTodd> i have to go through my notebook and figure out what order i need to do my homeworks in
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> the one I did gave you a certain number of tries, and reduced the points you could earn for a correct answer for each wrong answer
07:40 <GodTodd> yep
07:40 <GodTodd> it's the wileyPlus thing
07:40 <Lucifer_arma> multiple choice questions gave you many less tries than there were choices, but free answers usually gave you 10 tries
07:40 <GodTodd> we get 4 tries on each problem
07:40 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know what system I used, they removed any notice of what it was from the ui so it could be branded
07:40 <Lucifer_arma> and it was branded for UT
07:40 <GodTodd> ours isn't branded
07:41 <GodTodd> not for ccccd at least
07:41 <Lucifer_arma> (my instructor helped design the computer-based learning systems at UT and got a kickback in the system that he uses at ACC)
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> here's a little trick you might be interested in knowing, though :)
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> when net force is 0 (equilibrium condition), you can put all the forcce vectors in a polygon and use regular trig to find anything you need
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> so if there's only 3 forces, you can use the law of sines
07:43 <Lucifer_arma> obviously if there's more, you have to either use extensions of the law of siines you may know, or break it down into triangles
07:43 <Lucifer_arma> you may have to do some work on the angles to find them, and then afterwards to relate them to the coordinate system again
07:44 <Lucifer_arma> why they waited until statics to mention that, I don't know :)
07:44 <GodTodd> heh
07:44 <Lucifer_arma> also don't know if it works in three dimensions, because we're still doing forces in a plane
07:45 <GodTodd> apparently about the only calculus we'll use in physics I will be the power rule (for derivatives and integrals)
07:45 <Lucifer_arma> really we're doing review of vectors
07:45 <Lucifer_arma> well, there's a few definitions you need to learn in a calculus way
07:45 <Lucifer_arma> like W = F (dot) d
07:46 <GodTodd> yeah...he was just referring to actual math stuff tho
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> and P(ower) = dw/dt
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> F = dW/dd
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> also, W = integral(F)dd
07:47 * GodTodd notes irc needs a math font ;)
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> that sort of thing, and they may throw some problems that require you to use a minimum amount of calculus to solve for the purpose of showing you can do it
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> well, if we had clients that could parse and render latex, we'd just learn that :)
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> the way my courses are structured, the physics and calculus don't really start getting blended until statics, and my statics teacher is promising us we'll need a lot of calculus
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> we better, since calc 3 is a coreq for the course
07:48 <GodTodd> heh
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, graphical analysis
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> all that graphical analysis you learned in calculus really pays off in physics
07:49 <GodTodd> good
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> one of the things the algebra-based physics kids have a real hard time doing is understanding the relationships between position, velocity, and acceleration
07:49 <GodTodd> i wouldn't want to learn all that for nothing
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> but you should have spent a fair amount of time studying those relationships in calc
07:49 <GodTodd> yep
07:49 <GodTodd> calc I
07:50 <GodTodd> they're closely related
07:50 <GodTodd> :)
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> you'll really start to feel it when you do simple harmonic motion, because position is a cos function
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> so velocity is obviously a -sin, and acceleration -cos
07:50 <GodTodd> yep
07:51 <GodTodd> yeah...we spent mucho time-o finding each thing based on an equation expressed with another (with position, velocity, acceleration and jerk)
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> one thing I found interesting that never became obvious was that just like you can take the derivative of a function with respect to any arbitrary variable, whether or not it's actually in the function,
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> you can also take the integral with respect to any arbitrary variable
07:52 <Lucifer_arma> right. concavity plays in, too
07:52 <GodTodd> yeah...we spent time on that too
07:52 <GodTodd> my calc I class was very good actually for a 5 weeker
07:52 <Lucifer_arma> if they scheduled it the way they schedule the 5.5 weeks classes at my school, you still had all the same lecture time
07:52 <Lucifer_arma> :)
07:53 <GodTodd> (might have to review some of it but should remember it ;))
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> just instead of meeting twicce a week, you met 4 times a week
07:53 <GodTodd> yeah...it was around 16 hrs a week
07:53 <GodTodd> 4 days, 4 hours a day
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> one thing I didn't like about my physics class was that it didn't have enough calculus in it to even be considered practicing
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> so my calc skills rusted a bit :(
07:53 <GodTodd> sounds like the one i'm taking too :/
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> I know, technically I was in calc 4 at the time, but I don't want to go into it :(
07:54 <GodTodd> i have plenty of math beyond calc 2...i'm not going to push it with calc 3 and 4 ;)
07:54 <Lucifer_arma> heh
07:55 <Lucifer_arma> well, if you have to take statics (sometimes called structures, apparently), it's looking like it'll be a pretty fun class :)
07:55 <GodTodd> tho i think engineering math will essentially cover the useful parts of calc 3
07:55 <GodTodd> i don't think i do
07:55 <Lucifer_arma> you may not have to for your degree. It's mechanics, but in-depth
07:56 <Lucifer_arma> it's forces acting on rigid bodies at equilibrium
07:56 <Lucifer_arma> statics + dynamics are in-depth about half of physics 1, near as I can tell
07:56 <GodTodd> yeah...my degree is mostly electronics and programming
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> then I've got fluid dynamics (I guess fluid statics doesn't make much sense), which is a prereq for aerodynamics, and a few other things
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> but those are after I transfer and get into the AE part of the degree
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> does your physics class touch electricity at all?
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> mine didn't, you get into electricity in physics 2
07:58 <GodTodd> my physics lab teacher got his phd in solid state physics by studying the electrical properties of a semiconducter material at 2K
07:58 <GodTodd> the last experiment is Arch. Principle...i don't think we mess with electricity
07:59 <GodTodd> we might
07:59 <Lucifer_arma> probably not, not if archimedes is the last lab
07:59 <Lucifer_arma> that's specific heat, iirc
07:59 <GodTodd> all of our labs are listed at www.ccccd.edu/physics
07:59 <GodTodd> ;)
07:59 <Lucifer_arma> or buoyant forces
08:00 <GodTodd> that's where we go to dl the manuals
08:00 <GodTodd> and get the prelabs
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> you're in uni physics, right?
08:00 <GodTodd> yep
08:00 <GodTodd> uni phys I
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, it feels like its missing a few labs
08:01 * Lucifer_arma counts the labs
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> wait a minute, that's only one lab per week
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> you're getting cheated
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> most instructors at my school do two labs per week :)
08:02 <GodTodd> heh...yeah it's just one per week
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> so I don't see projectile motion, but that may be in 2d motion
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> how long is the lab session?
08:03 <GodTodd> 11:30 - 2:20
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> ours are 1.5-2 hours, so you could have a 4 hour lab and still keep the pace
08:04 <GodTodd> just under 3 hrs
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, they probably just do longer labs then. Our labs generally focus on just one particular case of a particular topic, and the breadth of coverage is taken up by the number of labs done
08:04 <GodTodd> and it's one that i can't be late leaving...not without school panicking ;)
08:04 <GodTodd> tommy's school*
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I can see that :)
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> carry a cell phone, so they can call you ;)
08:05 <GodTodd> i do
08:05 <GodTodd> but i have to drive from frisco to plano in 25 mins (as if you knew the area heh)
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> haha
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> do you have to take the George W. Bush Memorial Turnpike?
08:06 <GodTodd> nope
08:06 * Lucifer_arma thinks it's a peculiar irony that the freeway that celebrates the idiot requires a toll to drive on
08:06 <GodTodd> and actually....i don't think it has the W
08:06 <GodTodd> i think it's for pop and son
08:06 <Lucifer_arma> I thought it did when I saw the sign for it, but I could be misremembering it
08:07 <GodTodd> it was originally supposed to be a freeway...til it costed more than they planned on ;)
08:08 <GodTodd> therefore, it's ironic that it's named after "no new taxes" dude :)
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, the 2d motion lab is projectile motion
08:11 <GodTodd> yeah...a lot of stuff is probably integrated in so it looks like i'm getting off easy :)
08:12 <GodTodd> man...one week gone already in the semester
08:12 <Lucifer_arma> nah, these labs are about the same size aas the labs we do, so I was right the first time: you're getting cheated :)
08:13 * GodTodd has no school til tues. now
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, archimedes is buoyant forces. So no specific heat lab for you (which is probably a good thing, that lab is boring as hell, and covered in chemistry anyway)
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> I'll try to tell you which ones you're missing when we get to them at work. :) (phys 1 class this semester, and it's the only class I'm working)
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> we do a freefall lab using the same gear y'all will use for projectile motion
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08:19 <Lucifer_arma> everything y'all do on a dynamics track, we do on an airtrack at my campus (the northridge campus has dynamics tracks, but we don't)
08:19 <Lucifer_arma> the airtrack is more fun than the dynamics track, imo, unless you have to do 6 setups
08:19 <GodTodd> heh
08:20 <GodTodd> yeah...i'm not missing out on specific heat...had to do that shit in chem
08:20 <Lucifer_arma> I'm not remembering all the labs we do now
08:20 <Lucifer_arma> in fact, the most common specific heat writeup used in physics is the one stolen from the chem lab manual :)
08:20 <Lucifer_arma> but hey, some people won't take both chem and physics, and will never notice
08:21 * GodTodd didn't realy like chem
08:21 <GodTodd> really*
08:21 <Lucifer_arma> I'm hoping chemistry will look more interesting when I get to materials, because it's the prereq for materials
08:22 <Lucifer_arma> there's another class on top of materials, but I don't remember what it is. Probably AE-specific materials, where the materials class I'm thinking of is just general materials, their properties, etc.
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08:22 <GodTodd> could be
08:23 <Lucifer_arma> we do a simple harmonic motion lab, too, that appears to be missing
08:23 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, hooke's law. I didn't see a hooke's law lab
08:23 <GodTodd> thing is...i'm in the "foundation learning" part of my degree...things won't get terribly interesting until UTD
08:23 <Lucifer_arma> I saw one that probably uses hooke's law, in centripetal forces, but that's not the same as actually studying hooke's law by itself
08:23 <Lucifer_arma> that's not true at all, physics 2 is really interesting
08:24 <GodTodd> that'll be right before i transfer ;)
08:24 <Lucifer_arma> physics 1 is really interesting if you like mechanics, but physics 2 has electricity and basic electronics, optics and lasers and shit, and then goes into relativity
08:24 <GodTodd> i'm hoping spring of 08 to be at UTD
08:24 <GodTodd> er
08:25 <GodTodd> fall of 08
08:25 <GodTodd> not spring
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> that's the same time I'm hoping to be at UT :)
08:25 <GodTodd> yeah...i figure we're both shooting for graduation in '10
08:25 <GodTodd> :)
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> (it's pretty much certain I"m aiming for UT now, since my wife's working we have to stay in Austin until I finish)
08:26 <Lucifer_arma> well, the good thing about it all is that my kids will all be in full-day school next fall
08:26 <Lucifer_arma> that should help me out immensely
08:26 <GodTodd> yes it should
08:26 <Lucifer_arma> I'll see if I can get work at UT, if not I'll probably stay at ACC
08:26 <GodTodd> i won't have that luxury...tho it's offset by extremely accomodating grandparents :)
08:26 <Lucifer_arma> I'm also intending to have an associates of engineering this spring
08:27 <Lucifer_arma> heh, life is harsh when you got no babysitter :)
08:27 <GodTodd> i'ma look into coop work when i get to UTD
08:27 <GodTodd> yeah...i know...it was even harsher as a single parent ;)
08:27 <Lucifer_arma> man, this whole academic immersion thing is awesome
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> here's something fun
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> they had an old solutions manual sitting around for an edition of my statics textbook that's now two editions out of date
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> they just gave it to me
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> true, none of the problems in it are exactly like any of the ones in my textbook, but they're similar
08:29 <GodTodd> cool :)
08:29 <Lucifer_arma> so I have a whole book full of examples that are very similar to my homework problems
08:29 <Lucifer_arma> this was sitting at the northridge campus (I work at the cypress one)
08:29 <Lucifer_arma> of course, now I'm surrounded by PhD physics geeks, so any help I could possibly need is available any time I need it, in person
08:29 <GodTodd> yep
08:30 <Lucifer_arma> I definitely recommend working in the department your degree is in, or a very closely related department :)
08:30 <Lucifer_arma> closest you can get with whatever credentials you have, anyway
08:30 <GodTodd> yeah...that's what i hope to do with coop
08:30 * GodTodd has a degree in computer related stuff...shouldn't be too hard :)
08:31 <Lucifer_arma> well, I need to run for cigarettes and then get to bed so I can watch the little one before he goes to school tomorrow
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13:45 <qxdtz> luke-jr, spidey ?
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13:48 <qxdtz> hi
13:48 <DrJoeTron> yo
13:51 <spidey> ?
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15:38 <spidey_> wtf is it with people who have played a game for a while?
15:38 <spidey_> "i dunno what you call this, but this isn't <insertgamenamehere>"
15:38 <spidey_> then bitch about the sittings, -.- if the settings wheren't ment to be changed, i'm sure the devs of the games wouldn't have added the options so stfu and go find another server -.-
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17:35 <freako> anyone here?
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18:55 <Lucifer_arma> freako: yes, but you're not
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21:11 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
21:11 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 70°F / 21°C | Humidity: 73% | Pressure: 29.99in / 1015hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 2mph / 4km/h | Updated: 4:00 PM ADT; Tonight - Cloudy. Periods of rain with a few thundershowers beginning early this evening. Amount 10 to 15 mm(0.4 to 0.6 in) except locally 25 mm(1.0 in) in thundershowers. Fog patches developing overnight. Low 14C(57F).; (1 more message)
21:11 <Vanhayes> #more
21:11 <armabot> Vanhayes: Saturday - A mix of sun and cloud. 60 percent chance of showers in the afternoon. Fog patches dissipating in the morning. Wind becoming northwest 20 km/h (12 mph) in the morning. High 21C(70F). UV index 6 or high. Saturday night a few clouds. Wind northwest 20 km/h (12 mph) becoming light in the evening. Low 10C(50F).; Sunday - Sunny. High 20C(68F).;
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22:13 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
22:13 <armabot> Vanhayes: This data is 95 seconds old; Norm's Place (10/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (9/14), Wild West =Capture The Flag= (9/10), Wild West =Fortress Shootout= (8/12), Fortress Café (6/32), The YELLOW Submarine (5/16), Wild West =Hold The Flag= ~Multi~Mode~ (5/16), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (5/12), ë | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ì/xff9900 (4/16), Wild West =Sumo= (1 more message)
22:13 <Vanhayes> #tea
22:13 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): flynn, hoop, newbÎd, SL°???, ~{GP}~[RAm], °¯pixel
22:51 <mkzelda> anyone ever have the misfortune of using/owning a toshiba satellite laptop?
22:51 <mkzelda> im trying to fix a friends but it seems i just find an internet full of hate
22:52 <mkzelda> the thing will lock up w/in only a minute or two after booting up
22:52 <mkzelda> even after a fresh install of xp
22:52 <mkzelda> in fact it reboots on its own during the install
22:52 <mkzelda> however, it will run fine in safe mode
22:52 <mkzelda> so i guess its a driver that loads in 'danger mode' and not in safe mode
22:53 <mkzelda> i cant find any help on the inet, just lots and lots of pages of ppl w/ same problems and class action lawsuits and such
22:53 <mkzelda> and that toshiba wont help anyone
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