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Log from 2007-03-08:
--- Day changed Thu Mar 08 2007
00:02 <DrJoeTron> ghableska
00:02 <ghableska> yes?
00:02 <DrJoeTron> game for you to download
00:02 <DrJoeTron> :D
00:02 <ghableska> what?
00:03 <DrJoeTron> space cowboy online
00:03 <ghableska> uhh
00:03 <ghableska> #googe space cowboy online
00:03 <DrJoeTron> its pretty much starfox
00:03 <ghableska> er
00:03 <DrJoeTron> but an mmo
00:03 <DrJoeTron> i played a bit
00:03 <DrJoeTron> then quit since i had no ambition
00:03 <ghableska> haha
00:04 <DrJoeTron> im starting up again because i totally forgot about the goon brigades, and how everyone hated them because they killed everything
00:04 <DrJoeTron> the game is pretty much grind grind grind grind grind grind
00:04 <ghableska> heh
00:04 <DrJoeTron> vp
00:05 <DrJoeTron> pvp*
00:05 <ghableska> err
00:05 <ghableska> I hate those :X
00:05 <DrJoeTron> yeah i do too
00:05 <DrJoeTron> it goes by fast 
00:05 <ghableska> bah
00:05 <ghableska> grinding is still grinding :/
00:05 <DrJoeTron> i played with vladd impaler for a while
00:05 <DrJoeTron> yeah
00:05 <DrJoeTron> grinding is still grinding
00:05 <DrJoeTron> such a lame game mechanic
00:05 <DrJoeTron> wanna KILL THINGS!?
00:05 <DrJoeTron> not...really...
00:05 <DrJoeTron> OK
00:06 <DrJoeTron> 30 OF THEM
00:06 <DrJoeTron> :V
00:06 <ghableska> heh
00:06 <luke-jr_> ...
00:06  * luke-jr_ KILLING DrJoeTron 
00:07 <ghableska> #kill luke-jr_
00:07 <armabot> luke-jr_ will die on Fri Mar 28 08:43:43 1980 due to being stabbed in the eye by z-man-work.
00:08 <luke-jr_> z-man-work: jerk :(
00:08 <luke-jr_> no killing before I'm born!
00:08 -!- luke-jr|work [n=luke-jr@adsl-76-194-177-181.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
00:08 <DrJoeTron> yaaay!
00:08 <DrJoeTron> ghableska
00:08 <DrJoeTron> ...thank you
00:09 <ghableska> uhh?
00:09 <DrJoeTron> nm
00:09 <ghableska> o_O
00:22 -!- _Sticky_ [n=kvirc@80-43-72-84.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #armagetron
00:42 -!- Stempo [n=a65931c2@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has joined #armagetron
00:42 <Stempo> so... who's had a stressful day? :-D
00:42 <_Sticky_> yup
00:43 <luke-jr_> ...
00:43 <Stempo> care to share?
00:44 -!- Ratty [n=Raistlfi@63-87-213-133.res.nb.dhcp.sigecom.net] has joined #armagetron
00:45 <_Sticky_> the useual..spend most of my day doing other peoples programming and work and pc admin cos they cant
00:45 <Ratty> Any of you guys know the correct permissions for the armagetronad user to startup a dedicated server ?
00:45 -!- Stempo [n=a65931c2@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has quit [Client Quit]
00:45 <_Sticky_> bye
00:46 <_Sticky_> permissions
00:46 <_Sticky_> execute permissions?
00:47 -!- Stempo [n=a65931c2@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has joined #armagetron
00:47 <Stempo> eek, wouldn't let my messages through
00:47 <_Sticky_> wb
00:47 <Stempo> ty
00:47 <Stempo> I'm at the library so everything is screwy
00:47 <_Sticky_> studying
00:47 <_Sticky_> ?
00:48 <Stempo> anywho: sticky I thought you were like... my age
00:48 <Stempo> nah
00:48 <_Sticky_> how old you?
00:48 <Stempo> 15ish...
00:48 <Stempo> almost 16
00:48 <_Sticky_> yeah im older
00:48 <Stempo> -.-
00:48 <Stempo> by like a million years like Todd or only afew years like guru?
00:48 <Stempo> a few*
00:48 -!- Stempo [n=a65931c2@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has quit [Client Quit]
00:49 <_Sticky_> mid 20's...about the accuracy im willing to give
00:49 <_Sticky_> heh
00:49 <ghableska> heh
00:49 <ghableska> stempo = Genki?
00:49 -!- j0h4nn3s [n=j@i577B97A0.versanet.de] has joined #armagetron
00:49 <_Sticky_> ahh
00:49 -!- Stempo [n=a65931c2@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has joined #armagetron
00:50 <Stempo> *note to self* burn down the library for crappy internet
00:50 <_Sticky_> Stempo: mid 20's...about the accuracy im willing to give
00:52 <Stempo> oi Dorka!
00:52 -!- Stempo [n=a65931c2@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has quit [Client Quit]
00:52 <Ratty> _Sticky_, So that is all you need to give the user of the server, execute permission ?
00:52 -!- Stempo [n=a65931c2@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has joined #armagetron
00:52 <Stempo> -.-
00:52 <_Sticky_> are you getting my pm's stempo...think im no registered
00:53 <Stempo> I got your first one
00:53 <Stempo> that's all I really needed
00:53 <Stempo> anywho: still being forced to do the work of others or relaxing at home?
00:54 -!- Stempo [n=a65931c2@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has quit [Client Quit]
00:55 <_Sticky_> Ratty: you trying to give a individual user on a linux box ability to run tron??
00:55 <Ratty> No I am trying to amke up a new user... useradd armagetronad and was wondering what permissions he needed
00:56 -!- Stempo [n=a65931c2@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has joined #armagetron
00:56 <Stempo> this is really getting annoying
00:56 <_Sticky_> wireless?
00:56 <Stempo> yeppers
00:56 <_Sticky_> let me guess you have an intel card??
00:56 <Stempo> nopers
00:56 <_Sticky_> ahh dam
00:57 <Stempo> iBook G4
00:57 <ghableska> what do you have against intel cards? :p
00:57 <Stempo> lol
00:57 <Stempo> whenever the IRC loads all the way Idon't see replies anymore
00:57 <_Sticky_> ive come across 2 intel wireless cards that knock you off the net every 5 min like clockwork
00:57 -!- Stempo [n=a65931c2@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has quit [Client Quit]
00:57 <ghableska> o_O
00:57 -!- Stempo [n=a65931c2@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has joined #armagetron
00:57 <Stempo> I swear I'm going to burn down the library....
00:57 <Stempo> -..-
00:57 <_Sticky_> hi...bye in advance
00:58 <Stempo> lol
00:58 <Stempo> hi bye hi
00:58 <Stempo> bye hi
00:58 <Stempo> what do you have against intel cards?
00:59 <_Sticky_> ratty im not sure you need any special permissions do you?...not sure tho
00:59 -!- Stempo [n=a65931c2@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has quit [Client Quit]
00:59 <ghableska> _Sticky_: I think you should start a vendetta against iBook G4's ;)
00:59 <_Sticky_> why ibooks?
00:59 -!- Stempo [n=a65931c2@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has joined #armagetron
00:59 <Ratty> _Sticky_, I suppose I do since I keep on getting the error : Permissions denied when trying to run the dedicated server .... Hmmm....
00:59 <_Sticky_> Stempo: ive come across 2 intel wireless cards that knock you off the net every 5 min like clockwork
01:00 <Stempo> xD
01:00 <Stempo> I need to find an IRC site or something... I'm using the one on durka's site
01:00 <_Sticky_> is there execute permisions for group/other for the program you are trying to run?
01:01 -!- Stempo [n=a65931c2@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has quit [Client Quit]
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01:15 <_Sticky_> #tell Stempo try http://irc.netsplit.de/webchat/?net=freenode for web based irc...looks like it should work
01:15 <armabot> _Sticky_: Error: I haven't seen Stempo, I'll let you do the telling.
01:15 <madmax|pt> #m
01:15 <armabot> madmax|pt: (message <an alias, 2 arguments>) -- Alias for "later tell $1 $2".
01:15 <_Sticky_> hmm isnt that the point of tell?  to tell them when they come back
01:16 <_Sticky_> ahhh
01:16 <madmax|pt> or #later tell i think
01:16 <madmax|pt> -(i think)
01:16 <_Sticky_> #m Stempo try http://irc.netsplit.de/webchat/?net=freenode for web based irc...looks like it should work
01:16 <armabot> _Sticky_: The operation succeeded.
01:16 <_Sticky_> tyt
01:16 <_Sticky_> ty
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01:17 <Stempo> -.-
01:17 -!- kamp|schooling [n=cpayan@ip72-209-64-18.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #armagetron
01:17 <_Sticky_> hay all
01:17 -!- kamp|schooling is now known as kamp
01:17 <kamp> hey
01:18 <Stempo> hey
01:18 -!- Dorka is now known as spidey
01:18 <kamp> haha
01:18  * spidey stabs stempo
01:18 <kamp> dorka
01:18 <Stempo> lol
01:18  * Stempo stabs spidey
01:18 <_Sticky_> Stempo: you genki??
01:18  * Stempo slaps spidey and kicks him
01:18 <_Sticky_> Stempo: get the message about possible web based irc?
01:18 <spidey> hey!
01:18 <spidey> that was uncalled for!
01:19 <spidey> brb
01:20 <kamp> web based irc
01:20 <kamp> you mean like
01:20 <kamp> irc
01:20 <kamp> using the web?
01:20 <kamp> brillint
01:21 <kamp> #brilliant!
01:21 <_Sticky_> yeah java client
01:21 <kamp> nah
01:21 <kamp> i never liked em
01:21  * Stempo slaps spidey again while he's gone
01:21 <Stempo> I prefer to stick to messenger
01:21 <Stempo> but people like sticky dont give it out the turds
01:21 <_Sticky_> i presume she is on a public machine so cant install an irc client
01:22 <Stempo> nope :(
01:22 <_Sticky_> " but people like sticky dont give it out the turds"????wtf does that mean
01:22 <Stempo> actually it's my laptop, but the school I go to put blocks on it so downloading anything is impossible
01:22 <luke-jr_> Stempo: "messenger"?
01:22 <spidey> ..
01:22 <spidey> uncalled for!
01:23  * Stempo pokes spidey be quiet
01:23 <spidey> man
01:23 <Stempo> :P
01:23 <Stempo> woman
01:23 <spidey> everyone ran off and left me home
01:23 <spidey> >.<
01:23 <Stempo> xD
01:23 <Stempo> I don't run off, I drive off
01:23 <Stempo> illegally of course
01:23 <spidey> ...
01:23 <Stempo> :-D
01:23  * Stempo rolls that way
01:23 <spidey> women shouldn't be allowed to drive
01:24 <Stempo> why's that? because we pwn you men?
01:24 <Stempo> :P
01:25 <_Sticky_> pwning on the roads is not a good thing
01:25 <Stempo> lol
01:25 <_Sticky_> also known as an accident
01:25 <spidey> indeed sticky
01:25 <Stempo> acutally it'd be a crash
01:25 <Stempo> an accident is like a tree falling over the road
01:25 <Stempo> a crash is human error
01:25  * Stempo learned that in Driver's Ed
01:25 <Stempo> lol
01:26 <ghableska> spidey: you drive? o_O
01:26 <Stempo> lmao!
01:26 <_Sticky_> i did once pwn a bollard in my car
01:26 <Stempo> bollard? O.o
01:26 <spidey> ghableska, yea
01:26 <ghableska> ack
01:26 <spidey> ghableska, don't need a license if you don't get caught
01:26 <spidey> meh
01:26 <_Sticky_> bollard??? english expresion i guess
01:26 <Stempo> what is it?
01:27 <_Sticky_> def: One of a series of posts preventing vehicles from entering an area.
01:28 <ghableska> #wikipedia bollard
01:28 <armabot> ghableska: Search took 0.11 seconds: Bollard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bollard>; Alan Bollard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Bollard>; USCGC Bollard (WYTL-65614) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USCGC_Bollard>; Ice climbing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: (3 more messages)
01:28 <ghableska> oh, those
01:28 <Stempo> interesting
01:29  * madmax|pt wants Terminal.app to have clickable links
01:29 <spidey> macs suck :D
01:30 <kamp> terminal.app?
01:30 <madmax|pt> os x's terminal
01:30 <spidey> .app = mac afiaks
01:30 <spidey> -s
01:31  * ghableska goes off to play tetris
01:32 <madmax|pt> "Tetris? What's that?"
01:32 <luke-jr_> ksirtet
01:32 <ghableska> hahaha
01:32 <kamp> tetris sucks
01:33 <kamp> :)
01:34 <ghableska> well, if you have a calculator and nothing else to do...
01:34 <_Sticky_> 5d tetris rocks
01:34 <kamp> s5d tetris
01:34 <kamp> swow
01:34 <ghableska> o_O
01:34 <_Sticky_> dosent exist yet but just thought it up
01:34 <kamp> argh
01:34 <kamp> i put s in front of everything
01:34 <kamp> fucking armagetron
01:34 <kamp> blah
01:34 <_Sticky_> i do that too
01:35 <ghableska> s or y, depends on which game I've been playing recently
01:35 <kamp> y?
01:35 <_Sticky_> also shout lag when my message dosent appear in less than 100ms
01:36 <ghableska> heh
01:36 <_Sticky_> LAG
01:36 <ghableska> kamp: counterstrike
01:36 <kamp> oh
01:36 <kamp> i don't like that game
01:36 <_Sticky_> cs1.6 or source??
01:36 <ghableska> source
01:36 <_Sticky_> oh dear
01:36 <kamp> it helps that i'm no good at it
01:36 <_Sticky_> HEADSHOT
01:36 <madmax|pt> "What the FUCK happened?" © Lucifer_arma
01:36 <ghableska> madmax|pt?
01:36 <Lucifer_arma> ?
01:37 <Lucifer_arma> is he making fun of me?
01:37 <ghableska> heh, not sure
01:37 <Lucifer_arma> do I need to kick his ass?
01:37 <_Sticky_> i used to play 1.6 i just cant hack source since headshots are so common i just die instantly
01:37 <kamp> maybe
01:37 <madmax|pt> heh, that was a possible counter-taunt on a "LAG"
01:37  * ghableska shrugs
01:37 <kamp> what'd you guys figure out last night about the tourney anyway?
01:37 <kamp> ljlcjnsadclkjndsakljcna
01:37 <Lucifer_arma> do I need to kick his butt all the way to Pizza Hut?
01:37 <ghableska> we figured out something?
01:37 <kamp> yea man
01:37 <kamp> figured it all out
01:37 <kamp> we're having 42 teams
01:37 <madmax|pt> Well, I think so. After all he said LAG
01:37 <kamp> who all play 42 games
01:37 <ghableska> heh. I must've missed that part :p
01:37 <kamp> and we'll have 42 champs
01:38 <ghableska> #g the answer to life the universe and everything
01:38 <_Sticky_> whats wrong with me saying lag??
01:38 <armabot> ghableska: the answer to life the universe and everything = 42
01:38 <ghableska> :D
01:38 <Lucifer_arma> madmax|pt: you must be playing with some other Lucifer...
01:38 -!- kamp is now known as kamp42
01:38  * Lucifer_arma periodically complains about lag, but *never* blames lag
01:38 <madmax|pt> lol
01:38 <kamp42> #whoami
01:38 <armabot> kamp42: kamp
01:38 <Lucifer_arma> #whoishe
01:38 <ghableska> it knows :o
01:38 <Lucifer_arma> SHE
01:38 <Lucifer_arma> ARMABOT IS A SHE
01:38 <ghableska> *she knows
01:38 <Lucifer_arma> you want to see a picture?
01:38 <spidey> if it's 6:40 here, what gmt am i?
01:39 <Lucifer_arma> oh wait, you're too young to see the picture I have of her
01:39 <ghableska> are you cst?
01:39 <kamp42> it
01:39 <ghableska> heh
01:39 <spidey> yea
01:39 <ghableska> 12:30
01:39 <ghableska> *40
01:39 <ghableska> CST = GMT -6
01:39 <kamp42> anyway
01:39 <ghableska> err, wait
01:39 <kamp42> tonight i the super smash bros night
01:39 <kamp42> should be interesting
01:39 <ghableska> but daylight savings is coming early, isn't it?
01:40 <kamp42> yea
01:40 <kamp42> this sunday
01:40 <madmax|pt> Lucifer_arma: not that. I was once trying to figure out the perfect taunt against players who say "LAG!!11" often. You suggested "What the FUCK happened?" or something similar
01:40 <kamp42> are you ready?
01:40 <ghableska> yep
01:40 <kamp42> are you sure?
01:40 <Lucifer_arma> oh, heh
01:40 -!- hang3r [n=hang3r@124-168-236-35.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #Armagetron
01:40  * ghableska has one of those atomic watches
01:40 <kamp42> planes are going to be falling out of the sky dude
01:40 <kamp42> watches?
01:40  * Lucifer_arma keeps time with his bowel movements
01:40 <ghableska> heh
01:40 <kamp42> you think that watch is going to save you froma  falling plane?
01:40 <ghableska> well, it's techincally radio-controlled
01:40 <_Sticky_> #whoisshe
01:40 <ghableska> um
01:41 <kamp42> #whoisit
01:41 <_Sticky_> heh
01:41 <Lucifer_arma> #whois kamp42
01:41 <kamp42> #whoareyou
01:41 <kamp42> #whoreyou
01:41 <kamp42> whoa, what?
01:41 <Lucifer_arma> #alias add whoareyou echo $nick: I am your woman.
01:41 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
01:41 <Lucifer_arma> #whoareyou
01:41 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: I am your woman.
01:41 <_Sticky_> #whois(he|she|it|that)
01:41 <kamp42> haha
01:41 <kamp42> #whoareyou
01:41 <armabot> kamp42: I am your woman.
01:42 <kamp42> haha
01:42 <Lucifer_arma> slut
01:42 <kamp42> #whoreyou
01:42 <kamp42> :)
01:42 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, what email server would you suggest?
01:42 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: one that works
01:42 <kamp42> yep
01:42 <kamp42> that's usually best
01:42 <Lucifer_arma> they're all a pain in the ass to setup
01:43 <spidey> heh
01:43 <Lucifer_arma> do you need imap support?
01:43 <Lucifer_arma> wait, do you want to receive email, or just send mail?
01:43 <kamp42> that reminds me
01:44 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, just send atm
01:44 <Lucifer_arma> ok, postfix then
01:44 <kamp42> i need to figure out how to get pop support from my university webmail
01:44 <kamp42> everything in there is esoteric
01:44 <kamp42> it sucks
01:44 <Lucifer_arma> kamp42: ask your system administrator :)
01:44 <kamp42> they're esoteric as wel
01:44 <kamp42> they'll probably give me an answer like "we're working on it"
01:44 <kamp42> bastards
01:44 <kamp42> or "what version of opera are you using" as though that matters
01:44 <Lucifer_arma> if that's the answer they give you, it means you *can't* until they finish it
01:45 <kamp42> but they have it
01:45 <kamp42> i know it
01:45 <kamp42> i just need to scour the ufl site
01:45 <kamp42> anyway
01:45 <kamp42> i'm outtie
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01:48 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, thanks :D
01:49 <Lucifer_arma> np :)
01:49 <Lucifer_arma> postfix is what sends mail from the wiki ;)
01:49 <spidey> heh
01:49 <spidey> needed something so phpbb2 wouldn't bitch about there being no mailserver to send email notifications 
01:49 <spidey> :/
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01:52 <_Sticky_> i thought post fix was that whole ab+c* thing
01:52 <_Sticky_> heh
01:53 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, is postfix smtp imap or pop3?
01:53 <Lucifer_arma> smtp, outgoing mail is always smtp
01:53 <Lucifer_arma> here's how it works, in general
01:53 <Lucifer_arma> you get an smtp server to send outgoing mail
01:53 <Lucifer_arma> it can receive mail, too
01:54 <Lucifer_arma> so you coud connect to my smtp server and send me mail (theoretically, practically I'd have to reconfigure it somewhat)
01:54 <Lucifer_arma> that mail would be put in /var/mail or somesuch place, and you'd need to read a mail spool to get it
01:54 <Lucifer_arma> KMail supports that :)
01:54 <Lucifer_arma> however, that's not a typical configuration anymore
01:54 <Lucifer_arma> so, instead, what you want is a server that people will connect to and retrieve their mail
01:55 <Lucifer_arma> so here comes pop3.  You run a pop3 daemon and it takes mail that's stored in your user's mail directory and allows remote clients who authenticate to retrieve it
01:55 <Lucifer_arma> you follow?
01:55 <luke-jr_> pop3 sucks
01:56 <Lucifer_arma> so your basic mail server configuration for end-users requires two parts.  It needs an smtp server to send mail to other servers and to receive mail from servers,
01:56 <Lucifer_arma> and it requires a pop3 daemon to allow clients to retrieve their own email
01:56 <luke-jr_> does not require pop3!!
01:56 <luke-jr_> I run my mail server 100% POP3-free
01:56 <Lucifer_arma> now, at some point, someone (I forget who, I want to blame microsoft for it), dreamed up imap
01:57 <luke-jr_> M$ just "extended" IMAP
01:57 <Lucifer_arma> imap is a protocol where the base assumption is that your mail stays on the mail server
01:57 <Lucifer_arma> it has some extra authentication, but afaik, still requires an smtp server to send mail
01:57 <Lucifer_arma> so you're still looking at having two servers
01:57 <Lucifer_arma> now, when you start looking at software to do these things, you find something a bit expected
01:58 <Lucifer_arma> you find smtp servers by themselves, and you find "mail server packages" that provide smtp, pop3, and sometimes imap components
01:58 <Lucifer_arma> those packages are also generally modular enough that you can plug in whatever smtp server you want
01:58 <Lucifer_arma> for example, I used to run courier
01:58 <Lucifer_arma> courier at that time required your own smtp server, and I used postfix for that
01:59 <Lucifer_arma> nowadays, you can get courier in flavors where you can still use your own smtp server, or you can use the one courier provides (which is a postfix server anyway, go figure)
02:03 <luke-jr_> I use Courier for IMAP
02:03 <luke-jr_> it sucks tho
02:03 <luke-jr_> :d
02:04 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, link on using postfix?
02:04 <spidey> :D
02:15 -!- Stempo [n=a659130a@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has quit ["CGI:IRC (EOF)"]
02:15 <spidey> O.o
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02:18 <ghableska> hey mom
02:19 <Your_mom_arma> hey
02:20 <spidey> hi
02:21  * ghableska slaps spidey
02:21 <spidey> die
02:22 <ghableska> in 2010, remember?
02:22 <spidey> ssshhh
02:22 <ghableska> heh
02:22 <spidey> i'm installing webmin O.o
02:22 <ghableska> o.0
02:23  * ghableska installs Teamspeak
02:23 <luke-jr_> stupid!
02:23 <ghableska> ?
02:25 <spidey> he doesn't like teamspeak cause he's a noob
02:25 <spidey> :P
02:25 <ghableska> :P
02:54 <ghableska> http://www.adequacy.org/stories/2001.12.2.42056.2147.html <-- haha
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03:01 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: www.google.com
03:05 <Lucifer_arma> Quake is an online virtual reality used by hackers. It is a popular meeting place and training ground, where they discuss hacking and train in the use of various firearms.
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03:07 <hang3r> Or lucifer is tripping and it's a First Person Shooter.
03:08 <Lucifer_arma> a third possibility is that I was quoting the article ghableska linked
03:08 <ghableska> #realchatlogs
03:08 <armabot> ghableska: http://master3.armagetronad.net/armalogs/
03:08 <Lucifer_arma> but I guess that's pretty extreme, isn't it?
03:08 <ghableska> #wikipedia adequacy.org
03:08 <armabot> ghableska: Search took 0.13 seconds: Troll (Internet) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll>; User talk:Calmypal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Calmypal>; Category:Comedy websites - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Comedy_websites>; Category:Internet trolling - (3 more messages)
03:09 <ghableska> internet troll, heh
03:09 <ghableska> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adequacy.org <--ah
03:10 <hang3r> Ah, I didn't see the article ghableska sent, my xchat window was to small
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03:58 <spidey> man
03:58 <spidey> i'd be down for civ tonight :D
03:58 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, luke-jr_ Your_mom_arma Vanhayes ghableska  ping :D
03:58 <ghableska> no.
03:58 <luke-jr_> what
03:58 <Lucifer_arma> probalby not, my wife wants to screw
03:58 <spidey> oh ghableska was a accident >.<
03:58 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: beat you by half an hour :p
03:59 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, screwing takes that long? o.O
03:59 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, but we'll take more than a couple of minutes
03:59 <spidey> oh well
03:59 <Vanhayes> spidey: get rome total war
04:00 <spidey> gimme link
04:00 <ghableska> Vanhayes: that's a fun game :)
04:00 <spidey> luke-jr_,  join #fallin-angels real quick
04:00 <Vanhayes> ya, the torrent finished yesterday But we had to start on the walls again, so I just tried it today
04:01 <ghableska> ah
04:02 <Vanhayes> spidey: http://www.torrentspy.com/torrent/605823/Rome_Total_War  thats the one I got, didnt take that long but there might be a better one out there
04:05 <Lucifer_arma> yay, I found my tablature cd
04:05 <luke-jr_> spidey: ...
04:05 <spidey> civ, luke civ
04:05 <spidey> you're slower than me O.o
04:06 <luke-jr_> is it Fri?
04:06 <spidey> who cares about friday :D
04:07 <spidey> luke-jr_, join #fallin-angels nub :D
04:08 <luke-jr_> I've been there for like 3 days
04:08 <luke-jr_> n00b
04:08 <spidey> you''re not there noob
04:08 <spidey> it's only me
04:13 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma i'm playing space cowboy again
04:21 <mkzelda> http://www.dukelupus.pri.ee/forum/viewtopic.php?t=32
04:28 <Lucifer_arma> DrJoeTron: Regular Old Fortress League
04:31 <ghableska> #weather 50266
04:31 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 29.5°F (9:31 PM CST on March 07, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 21.2°F. Pressure: 29.30 in 992.1 hPa (Falling). 
04:32 <Your_mom_arma> DrJoeTron: is it any good?
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04:42 <Your_mom_arma> spidey: pong
04:48  * GodTodd perks at the mention of a tablature cd
04:48 <GodTodd> heh
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05:02 <Your_mom_arma> #ping
05:02 <armabot> pong
05:20 <GodTodd> stupid chemistry
05:23 <GodTodd> any chemists in here?
05:23 <GodTodd> thought not :/
05:23 <GodTodd> heh
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> maybe
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> what's the problem?
05:35 <GodTodd> How many grams of phosphoric acid will form when 30.00 grams of tetraphosphorus decoxide reacts with 75.00 mL of water?
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> eek!
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> no chemistry!
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> heh
05:36 <GodTodd> heh
05:36  * GodTodd hates chemistry
05:36 <GodTodd> :/
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> chemical formulas for phosphoric acid and tetraphosphorus decoxide are ... ?
05:37 <GodTodd> it's P4O10 + 6H2O = 4H3PO4
05:37 <GodTodd> that's the reaction equation
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> so do two things
05:38 <GodTodd> if i knew how many mol H2O is in 75 mL then it's pretty easy
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> first, unbound the water, assume plenty of water, and figure it out
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> oh, really?
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> that's easy.  mL is volume, right?
05:38 <GodTodd> right
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> volume * density = mass
05:39 <GodTodd> right
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> from mass you can convert to moles
05:39 <GodTodd> bah
05:39 <GodTodd> stfu :P
05:39 <GodTodd> heh
05:39  * GodTodd is slow tonight
05:40 <GodTodd> oh, yeah...i can just change the mL to g for water
05:40 <GodTodd> duh
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05:42 <kamp42> hey everyone
05:42 -!- kamp42 is now known as kamp
05:42 <GodTodd> yo
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> you know, nick made fun of me for making a tablature cd of olga, he said "olga's never going to go offline"
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> heya kamp (hi there!) 
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> kamp: Regular Old Fortress League
05:42  * GodTodd mourns olga.
05:42 <GodTodd> :(
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> the archive I have is a few years out of date, but it's still post-2000, so it's got all sorts of stuff
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> copying it to my laptop harddrive right now :)
05:44 <luke-jr_> :o
05:44 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: we're going to complete with "ROFL"?
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> unless you've got something for WTF that sounds good :)
05:44 <luke-jr_> that's almost as bad as "LOL clan"
05:45 <luke-jr_> Why The Fortress?
05:45 <Lucifer_arma> ANd World Tron Federation won't quite cut it, sorry.  I'm trying to avoid having Tron in the name anywhere
05:45 <GodTodd> well...shit....i don't think the water really matters in that problem....since the P4O10 is the limiting reagent...hrmmm
05:45 <Lucifer_arma> aha
05:45 <Lucifer_arma> well, that's the first thing you have to determine.  What's the limiting reagent?  ;)
05:45 <GodTodd> yeah
05:45 <GodTodd> :D
05:45 <luke-jr_> GodTodd: buy me a new car
05:46 <GodTodd> um...no?
05:46 <luke-jr_> :D
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> screw that, just pay me ~$2500/month until I finish school :)
05:46 <GodTodd> you people think i have money or what?
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> well, while we're asking for shit we're not going to get, we gotta ask for shit we want, you know?
05:47 <GodTodd> tur tur
05:47 <kamp> Regular old fortress league
05:47 <kamp> is terrible
05:47 <kamp> but whatever
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> heh
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> otherwise it'll probably just be Armagetron Fortress League
05:47 <kamp> nothing wrong with that
05:47 <GodTodd> remember olga fortress league?
05:47 <GodTodd> heh
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> or Armagetron Fortress Federation or something like that
05:48 <kamp> learning css is a drag
05:48  * GodTodd learned some css a while back
05:49 <GodTodd> quick....molar mass of H3PO4
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> haha, found some half-written old songs of mine
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> "You're a pretty boy metalhead!"
05:49 <luke-jr_> Ward Tutelage Forces!
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05:50 <kamp42> hmm
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05:50 <GodTodd> whoever said 97.994 was correct
05:50 <luke-jr_> told you
05:50 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: have you played with a thesaurus lately? :D
05:50 <Lucifer_arma> #g molar mass of luke-jr_ (hi there!) 
05:50 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
05:50 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_: yes, I have
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05:50 <Lucifer_arma> #g molar mass of H2O
05:50 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
05:50 <luke-jr_> Ward Tutelage Forces (WTF) <-- aka Zone Protection League
05:51 <luke-jr_> just think
05:51 <luke-jr_> people see the name
05:51 <luke-jr_> they'll go
05:51 <luke-jr_> WTF
05:51 <luke-jr_> !
05:51 <GodTodd> bah...molar mass of water is 18.016
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> I was actually thinking more like "Everytime someone says WTF, they'll think of us"
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> talk about branding man
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> er
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> talk about branding, man
05:52 <kamp42> man
05:52 <kamp42> i'm burning my tongue off
05:52 <luke-jr_> kamp42: if he was talking to you, he'd have said woman, not man
05:52 <kamp42> damn good tasting tea, though
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> problem is, World Tron Federation is perfect, if I didn't want to be such a dick about not having tron in there
05:52 <GodTodd> ok...for better or worse, i'm going with 41.55g H3PO4
05:53 <kamp42> luke-jr_: nah, kid
05:53 <luke-jr_> Federation is lame
05:53 <kamp42> honestly
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> oh come on, it's just one word away from World Wrestling Federation
05:53 <luke-jr_> Federation implies a loose connection
05:53 <kamp42> i don't see the point in being all cutesy about the name
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> SP will love it!
05:53 <kamp42> but w.e.
05:53 <luke-jr_> World Trickster Forces
05:53 <luke-jr_> :p
05:53 <luke-jr_> haha
05:53 <luke-jr_> I have an idea
05:53 <kamp42> here
05:54 <luke-jr_> just refer to it as WTF
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> ah oh
05:54 <luke-jr_> and let people guess
05:54 <kamp42> real tron fortress melee
05:54 <kamp42> rtfm
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> then people will only think of us when they ask Luke for help!
05:54 <kamp42> heh
05:54 <luke-jr_> just refer to it as WTF and let people guess the full name :)
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> I think if Regular Old Fortress League doesn't suit, we'll go with boring and move on
05:54 <GodTodd> #luke
05:54 <armabot> STFU baka noob?? RTFM?? ur lame or smth.
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_: then we'll become World Tron Federation
05:55 <Lucifer_arma> in the end, what really matters is that the league itself is good and people want to play in it, and the games are competitive
05:55 <Lucifer_arma> and the championship is worth winning
05:55 <Lucifer_arma> "bigger kamps to fry" comes to mind
05:56 <Lucifer_arma> or, we've got bigger prophets to crucify
05:56 <kamp42> what?
05:56 <luke-jr_> lol
05:56 <kamp42> bigger kamps to fry?
05:56 <luke-jr_> you want to crucify a prophet?
05:56 <luke-jr_> please pick the protest-ant/Feeneyite spamming me
05:56 <kamp42> chances are something bad would happen to him anyway
05:57 <luke-jr_> HAHA
05:57 <kamp42> smothing bad always happens to prophets
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> well, tab finished copying
05:57 <luke-jr_> you would make his spams so much more interesting if you emailed him as "Lucifer"
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> ok, so three choices
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> Regular Old Fortress League
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> Armagetron Fortress League
05:57 <luke-jr_> The last 40 years of the Apostasy, 1967-2007, are represented by the 40 year trial of Israel in the desert when it was under attack by serpents.  Only a few survived and were saved, the rest were destroyed.  The next 40 years of the Great Monarch which are about to come to pass, is symbolized in the scripture by the conquest of King Joshua into Israel, which happened in the 40 year generation after Moses.  
05:57 <luke-jr_>  
05:57 <luke-jr_> Just some prophetic and symbolic insight for the faithful.
05:57 <luke-jr_>  
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> Armagetron Fortress Federation
05:57 <luke-jr_> Papal Office
05:58 <Lucifer_arma> or we try to come up with something that's free of both Tron and FOrtress
05:58 <kamp42> i like how all the css resources online are dated like february 2000
05:58 <kamp42> or march 2002
05:58  * luke-jr_ wonders where this guy finds so much free time
05:58 <kamp42> nothing recent
05:58 <Lucifer_arma> which matters if we want to consider branching out later into other game styles
05:58 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_: ever hear of scripts?
05:58 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: nah, scripts can't do this stuff
05:59 <kamp42> cinnamon tea
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> #eightball can scripts be used to simulate preaching?
05:59 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: It is so.
05:59 <kamp42> good stuff
05:59 <luke-jr_> lol
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> so last question, does it matter if fortress is in the name?
05:59 <kamp42> #eightball i want the drink, not the toy
05:59 <armabot> kamp42: What are you asking me for?
05:59 <kamp42> damn
05:59 <kamp42> #kill armabot
05:59 <armabot> armabot will die on Mon Aug 13 12:43:43 1979 due to being stabbed in the eye by madmax|pt.
05:59 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: I'd suggest having a non-federation-name with Fortress, and if we expand, make a Federation encompassing
06:00 <kamp42> #whoareyou
06:00 <armabot> kamp42: I am your woman.
06:00 <kamp42> faithful
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> #whoareyou
06:00 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: I am your woman.
06:00 <GodTodd> #whoareyou
06:00 <armabot> GodTodd: I am your woman.
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> slut
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> she's so awesome
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06:00 <Lucifer_arma> hi hang3r (hi there!) 
06:00 <Your_mom_arma> armabot armabot where for art thou armabot
06:00 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: The answer is def-- oooh! shiny thing!
06:01 <kamp42> ...
06:01 <kamp42> anyone playing in the lobster tub?
06:01 <GodTodd> just the sore people
06:01 <kamp42> ?
06:01 <luke-jr_> #whoareyou
06:01 <armabot> luke-jr_: I am your woman.
06:01 <luke-jr_> liar
06:01 <luke-jr_> :)
06:01 <GodTodd> you play in a tub with lobsters they will probably pinch you
06:02 <hang3r> hey Lucifer_arma (hi there!)
06:02 <kamp42> these don't
06:02 <kamp42> the lobsters sucks
06:02 <kamp42> here's a bug
06:02 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.sexylosers.com/239.html  <--- picture of armabot
06:02 <Lucifer_arma> it's best when you played Strip Poker on the C64, of course
06:03 <kamp42> i never understood why, but whenever i move focus fro arma while it's looking for servers, when I turn back, it always turns up with the host network game dialog
06:03 <kamp42> tres frustrating
06:03 <luke-jr_> kamp42: your thing must be pretty small for the lobsters to suck it
06:04  * GodTodd tries to decide if lame was trying to insult kamp or if he's just practicing typing...
06:04 <kamp42> no idea
06:04 <luke-jr_> I was trying to pretend I was GodTodd :(
06:04 <kamp42> hey get in the lobster tub
06:04 <kamp42> it's not bad
06:04 <luke-jr_> it's the kind of thing he'd sya
06:04 <GodTodd> no good at it, are you?
06:05 <luke-jr_> that's probably a good thing
06:05 <GodTodd> yeah...cuz if you weren't lame we'd have no one to laugh at
06:05 <GodTodd> :D
06:06 <luke-jr_> sure you would
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06:06 <luke-jr_> canada still comes here once in a while
06:07 <luke-jr_> or you could unban hyphy
06:07 <kamp42> finally
06:07 <GodTodd> nah...i prefer laughing at you
06:07 <GodTodd> :)
06:07 -!- kamp42 is now known as kamp
06:07  * luke-jr_ notes kamp could have ghosted it
06:07 <kamp> what's that, how does it work, and how do you do it?
06:08  * GodTodd waits for "RTFM".
06:08  * kamp wonders why it takes so long to type
06:08 <luke-jr_> RTFM
06:08  * luke-jr_ did that just for GodTodd 
06:09 <GodTodd> there it is
06:09 <luke-jr_> /msg nickserv ghost <name> <password>
06:09 <luke-jr_> it's fun when DrJoeTron accidentally posts his password here
06:09  * luke-jr_ ponders if he ever changed it
06:10 <kamp> go ahead and check
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> [23:11] [Notice] -NickServ- Password Incorrect
06:11 <kamp> too bad
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, it would have been awesome if I could've guessed luke's password
06:11 <luke-jr_> it's not very difficult
06:12 <kamp> i wouldn't imagine it was
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> well, it's not lucifersucks or jesusrules
06:13 <luke-jr_> haha
06:13 <kamp> heh
06:13 <luke-jr_> I wouldn't use Our Lord's name in such a fashon
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> it's also apparently not wifemyhasawesometits
06:13 <luke-jr_> http://bp2.blogger.com/_Ma7T_8XniKM/Re1XtUcudcI/AAAAAAAAALo/PEs5aZy1Y50/s1600-h/windows_vista_prague.jpg
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> er
06:14 <luke-jr_> installing Vista is an error :D
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> of course
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> primary reason I don't have a virus scanner is because they all fail to detect windows properly
06:14 <kamp> HAR
06:17 <kamp> anyway
06:17 <kamp> anything else that needs to be set up as far as the tournament goes?
06:17 <kamp> besides the league name?
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, lots of stuff :)
06:18 <luke-jr_> kamp: how's your PHP?
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> need to work out how many games we'll run in July and how the playoffs will be
06:18 <kamp> nonexistant
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> we'll use the wiki for setting up rosters.  Once the deadline passes, we'll lock the roster pages
06:19 <kamp> ah
06:19 <kamp> when's the deadline?
06:19 <Lucifer_arma> TBD
06:19 <kamp> which servers are participating?
06:19 <kamp> they should probably start running ads
06:19 <Lucifer_arma> ok, figure 4 weeks in July of games, then a short playoff and mini-championship in August
06:19 <Lucifer_arma> we need a name before we can advertise anything
06:19 <kamp> armagetron fortress league
06:19 <Lucifer_arma> also, we're trying to get an alternate network of servers setup that'll have their own master server
06:19 <kamp> there
06:20 <kamp> ah, i'd read about that
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> so, we need pages made on the wiki, but not yet pushed to the front
06:21 <kamp> luke-jr_: why do you ask?
06:21 <luke-jr_> I imagine there will be *some* PHP stuff for it XD
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> we need the rules we'll use, the physics/game rules config files (server admins should drop them in and use their own server_info.cfg)
06:21 <kamp> yea
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> I'd like to do it just using the wiki as much as possible, but any php coding should try to be in the form of mediawiki extensions
06:22 <kamp> so you need resources for teams, general rules, and resources for server admins
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> pretty much, yeah
06:22 <kamp> what do the teams need to know
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> I was just going to use my paypal account for actual joining fees, which are TBD, but don't go into effect until the fall season
06:22 <kamp> which day of the week would they be playing anyway?
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> TBD :)
06:22 <kamp> heh
06:22 <kamp> well
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> why don't you go make a July schedule for us?  :)
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> here's what I've got in mind for the schedule
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> we create 4 time slots in which we'll schedule games that cover the whole 24 hours
06:23 <kamp> assuming they play on say, wednesday or thursday, then you can send out e-mail notifications on mondays
06:23 <kamp> ?
06:23 <kamp> what?
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> we try to make sure teams play in time slots that match up with their timezones as much as possible
06:23 <kamp> ah
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> so european teams will play at times europeans prefer
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> when we have to do euro-american matches, the home game will be at a time that favors the home team
06:24 <kamp> would the times be changed according to home/away?
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> so the american team, on their server, gets the time they like the most
06:24 <kamp> oh ok
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> when the american team goes to play the euro server, they have to play at the euro time
06:24 <kamp> sucks to be the other team
06:24 <kamp> the away team
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> we'll still try to get games scheduled into the "best" time slot possible for everyone playing!
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> it's just that we already know that won't be possible, we learned that lesson in the spoon
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> so when we have to make a decision, we decide in favor of the home team for the game
06:25 <kamp> all right
06:26 <kamp> so you just choose a couple times slots during the day
06:26 <kamp> fill those as needed
06:26 <kamp> got it
06:26 <kamp> still need to choose a day
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> so what we need right now is a wiki page that shows us the schedule, filled in with placekeepers pretty much
06:26 <kamp> yea
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> I'd like to pick 2 days
06:26 <kamp> enh
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> we'll favor one of those days, and we'll use the rest for games that bleed over for some reason
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> s/rest/other
06:26 <kamp> ah, all right
06:26 <kamp> and not the weekend
06:26 <kamp> please not the weekend
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> Sunday's taken by the ladle, Thursday's taken by KOTG
06:27 <kamp> tuesdays?
06:27 <kamp> or wednesdays
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> I say Tuesday, with Sunday as backup
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> the ladle's only once a month, after all
06:27  * kamp has no idea about these other competitions
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> we might want to favor Sunday for same-continent games
06:28 <kamp> well
06:28 <kamp> i'm vehemently against the weekend
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> or the other way
06:28 <kamp> because this is work
06:28 <kamp> and it's the weekend
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> well, then don't worry about shit that happens on the weekend yourself :)
06:28 <kamp> ah
06:28 <kamp> sounds good
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> we also need to work out the flow of information
06:28 <kamp> ?
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> see, we make a schedule, we try to send out notifications to people about upcoming games, we do all that, right?
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> now what?
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> here's what I think.  We make a separate wiki page for each game, and put it on the calendar
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> this will be a *lot* of work for the regular season
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> it would be nice if we could automate that, luke-jr_ (hi there!) php guy
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06:29 <Lucifer_arma> after the game, the teams go to the page for their game and post the results
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> after all the games, one of us goes in and collects the information and maintains the standing pages
06:30 <kamp> the pages stay?
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> pages stay, yes
06:30 <kamp> maybe a page for each week, rather than each game
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> for specific-game issues, we'll probably want to use those pages
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> that might be better
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> that will certainly scale better to more teams/games
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> how about for each day games are scheduled?
06:31 <kamp> wouldn't that come out the same?
06:31 <kamp> except that games that bleed over, or whatever
06:31 <kamp> ok
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> also, there are two tasks that need to be done right now, really
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> a notes page on the wiki, someone needs to go through the thread on the forums and put everyone's name where they've volunteered to help
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> I guess that's really just one task the way I put it
06:33 <kamp> yea
06:33  * GodTodd volunteers to watch the discussion :D
06:33 <GodTodd> heh
06:33 <kamp> thanks GodTodd
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> we need to figure out the deadline for the july season and for the fall season for registering
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> the fall season also needs a payment due deadline
06:33 <kamp> july season
06:33 <GodTodd> always here to help kamp ;)
06:34 <kamp> since we're still working our way through it, we probably want at least a 3-4 weeks between the deadline for team registration and actual start of play
06:34 <kamp> i wish i had a calendar
06:34 <kamp> man i'm pissed at google calendar
06:35 <kamp> i got unlimited text messages
06:35 <kamp> and sms notifications aren't working
06:35 <kamp> registration deadline: June 11
06:35 <kamp> first game, july 3
06:36 <kamp> i guess, mini season, so only four teams, right?
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> there's a calendar on the competition hub page :)
06:36 <kamp> final, august 21
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> as many teams as sign up, but only 4 weeks of play
06:36 <kamp> oh
06:37 <kamp> so none of the play each team twice?
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> it won't be an "official" season, stats will be tracked (so we can collect data and write scripts to report on stats)
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> but not kept officially
06:37 <kamp> hmm
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> right, none of the play each team twice
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> just, as many games as are reasonable in the 4 weeks.  It's to test our processes and get some teams started
06:37 <Your_mom_arma> a page for each game-> condensed into a weekly page after said week-> condensed into a season page after the regular season with tournament info added later
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> we should expect most of the teams that play the july season to sign up for the fall season
06:38 <kamp> Your_mom_arma: that makes sense
06:38 <luke-jr_> I propose #armagetron have its own team
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> it makes sense, but it is a lot of work.  I was grimacing when I was thinking about how many pages would be needed to have one for each game
06:39 <GodTodd> i propose lame's a douche
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> also, if there's 100 games on a given day, the calendar on the wiki is going to fill up pretty badly
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> I propose GodTodd make his "lame" thing read "lame-jr" so we know who the fuck he's talking about
06:40 <Your_mom_arma> well you could just make a weekly page to start out with compress those into a season page
06:40 <kamp> luke-jr_: who would want to play with you?
06:40 <GodTodd> yeah...i should
06:40 <kamp> :P
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, that's what we're thinkign.  :)  The season page will be maintained weekly, and during the season it will provide current status report for people
06:41 <kamp> yea
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> at the end of the season, it'll just not be changed anymore and provide historical information :)
06:41 <kamp> what kind of stats would we be collecting
06:41 <kamp> (putting scheduling on hold for a sec)
06:41 <kamp> just team stats, or individual stats as well?
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> both, I was hoping, but collecting for individuals will be hard
06:41 <GodTodd> i propose lame-jr's a douche
06:41 <kamp> yea
06:41 <GodTodd> better? :D
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> we'd have to watch the games ourselves to get things like assists, fortress takes, etc.
06:42 <kamp> individual stats: kills, deaths, captures, points
06:42 <kamp> maybe we could make it the teams' responsibility, and their prerogative to decide whether or not to keep stats
06:42 <kamp> give out an mvp award at the end of the season
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> teams can certainly track their own stats, but I'd hate to see teams trying to game their stats
06:43 <kamp> but you can't be in the running, unless your stats are kept
06:43 <Your_mom_arma> idk about keeping track of individual player stats.
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> I was thinking an MVP award for each game, and each game MVP is an automatic nomination for the season
06:43 <kamp> yea Your_mom_arma, maybe we could just worry about this at the end of the whole shebang
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> we'd need to officiate to get player stats, or find a way to make the server collect them
06:43 <kamp> we can keep team stats
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> let's get team stats, though
06:44 <kamp> and when everything else is done, figure out individual stats
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> points each round, points per match, etc
06:44 <kamp> yea
06:44 <kamp> be interesting to see the differences between teams that are strong match finishers and whatnot
06:44 <kamp> heh
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> it would be nice to look at the championship contenders and say "<team 1> gave up an average of 60 points per match, while <team 2> only gave up an average of 20 points"
06:44  * Your_mom_arma proposes team stats per week then averaging them together for the season page
06:44 <kamp> figure out rpi ratings :)
06:45 <kamp> err
06:45 <kamp> for those that don't know about rpi, it's a college bball thing
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> at a certain level of team ability, the point spread should show the relative strengths/weaknesses of offense vs defense
06:45 <kamp> takes into account your team's record, the records of your opponents, and the records of your opponent's opponents
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> sounds like glicko-2
06:45 <kamp> what's glicko-2?
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> ask luke-jr_ (hi there!) 
06:46 <kamp> blah
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> not that he can answer, but he's implemented it for arma logs!  :)
06:46 <kamp> i'll just google it
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> maybe we can get him to modify it for rounds only and consider teams?
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> so how do we figure ranking?
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> there's no tie!
06:46 <kamp> similar to elo?
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> 'splain elo
06:47 <kamp> elo ratings
06:47 <kamp> used in chess
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> you know, we could make it 4 matches and allow ties
06:48 <kamp> i never understodd it, myself
06:48 <DrJoeTron> ew
06:48 <DrJoeTron> elo
06:48 <kamp> yea
06:48 <kamp> pretty much what i say
06:49 <kamp> i never rose much higher than 1000 myself
06:49 <kamp> which is pretty bad
06:49 <DrJoeTron> nooo
06:49 <DrJoeTron> im talking about the band
06:49 <kamp> ...
06:49 <DrJoeTron> electric light orchestra?
06:49 <kamp> all right
06:49 <kamp> oh
06:49 <kamp> never heard it
06:49 <DrJoeTron> good
06:49 <kamp> seen it a lot though
06:49 <kamp> the albums
06:49 <kamp> at spec's
06:50 <kamp> back to scheduling then
06:50 <kamp> the miniseason...
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> I don't think elo will work
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> too complicated :)
06:50 <kamp> we should lay down a law that registration for the preseason implies registration for the season
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> you mean registration for the july run implies registration for the fall?
06:51 <kamp> yea
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> no.  :)
06:51 <kamp> why not?
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> The july run is free, the fall run will require teams to put up money
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> we might give a free run to the 'champion' in the summer, though
06:51 <kamp> well
06:52 <Lucifer_arma> the july thing is one-time, we won't do it next year unless there's real demand for it
06:52 <kamp> ah
06:52 <kamp> o
06:52 <kamp> k
06:52 <kamp> :)
06:52 <Lucifer_arma> it's for us to test, so when the real season starts, we know what we're doing (approximately) :)
06:53 <kamp> yea
06:53 <kamp> i get that
06:53 <kamp> maybe not quite that
06:53 <Lucifer_arma> I have to say, I like the idea of a game being 4 matches and allowing ties
06:53 <Lucifer_arma> any objection to allowing ties?
06:53 <kamp> imply that when they register for july that we expect them to register in the fall
06:53 <kamp> nah
06:53 <Lucifer_arma> when sorting out rank, we can always look at scores during the ties to sort them out :)
06:53 <kamp> yea
06:54 <kamp> head to head solves ties
06:54 <kamp> we can make it so every team has two home and two away games
06:54 <Lucifer_arma> during the summer?
06:54 <Lucifer_arma> or during the game?
06:54 <Lucifer_arma> where two matches are home and the other two are away?
06:54 <kamp> that'll *sorta* solve the fact that they're not playing two gaems against each team
06:54 <kamp> nah
06:54 <kamp> during the summer
06:55 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, if we do that then we don't have to do two games per team
06:55 <kamp> exactly
06:55 <Lucifer_arma> because the away/home thing is sorted out
06:55 <Lucifer_arma> I mean during the fall too :)
06:55 <kamp> nah
06:55 <Lucifer_arma> but then we can't use away/home to resolve schedule conflicts
06:55 <kamp> we have more time and more leeway in the fall
06:55 <kamp> the original idea was good for the fall
06:55 <Lucifer_arma> the real question is, is it more fair to play 2 separate home/away games, or to play 2 matches home and 2 away in the same game?
06:56 <kamp> the first
06:56 <GodTodd> ok...chem is done...now i need to research john edwards :/
06:56 <kamp> the second brings up strange questions
06:56 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know if I agree, but I really like home/away games, so we can go with that :)
06:56 <Your_mom_arma> former presidential canidate GodTodd?
06:56 <kamp> like connection issues (hope not, but you never know), fatigue ( i guess), some other things
06:56 <GodTodd> yep
06:56 <Lucifer_arma> we'll try to encourage teams to make their own servers for real
06:56 <kamp> yea
06:57 <GodTodd> and according to my govt teacher, future pres candidate too
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> just like they do in pro sports, each team provides their own field :)
06:57 <kamp> yea, he's already campaigning for the next one
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> he's running right now
06:57 <GodTodd> yep
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> ah, your teacher thinks he'll win the primary?
06:57 <GodTodd> and i have to convince people to vote for him
06:57 <kamp> Lucifer_arma: that'd also encourage the teams to localize
06:57 <GodTodd> no...she chose the top 3 from each party
06:57 <Your_mom_arma> our next president is either obama or clinton
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> kamp: I don't object to that, there are advantages to team localizing
06:57 <kamp> a lot of advantages
06:58 <Lucifer_arma> Your_mom_arma: nah, obama's going to get mudslinged to death in the primaries because he's such a strong candidate, just like Howard Dean did
06:58 <Lucifer_arma> kamp: the main thing is to handle team localizing in a way that doesn't fuck them in the whole competition, which woudl be TWC's mistake
06:58 <GodTodd> yeah...i don't think clinton or obama will win
06:59 <Your_mom_arma> :( its true...  Still I prefer him over hillary
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> Your_mom_arma: I'd vote for obama in a heartbeat, though
06:59 <kamp> Lucifer_arma: it's not a big deal either way, like individual stats, we can wait for that to happen
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> easily, no contest, the chances the republicans will be able to beat him with what they've got in the wings right now are very slim, imo.  at least as far as my vote is concerned.
06:59 <Your_mom_arma> its certainly not going to be gulianni
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> kamp: yeah, we have to plan to provide servers right now.
06:59 <kamp> how is that working out anyway?
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> we've got z-man, wrtlprnft, and joe at least
07:00 <DrJoeTron> Support illinois!
07:00 <Your_mom_arma> who do you think is going to win GodTodd?
07:00 <DrJoeTron> vote obama~!
07:00 <DrJoeTron> :D
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> I thought there was at least one more server offered
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> mine too, of course
07:00 <GodTodd> honestly, i don't know yet :)
07:00 <GodTodd> i refuse to vote for a lizard tho heh
07:00 <Your_mom_arma> hmm?
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> you wouldn't vote for Mozilla?
07:00 <GodTodd> newt
07:00 <GodTodd> gingrich
07:00 <kamp> oh
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> no newt is good newt
07:01 <kamp> i thought you were making a very nice douglas adams reference, GodTodd
07:01 <GodTodd> they turned him into a newt but he hasn't gotten any better
07:01 <GodTodd> kamp:): that too ;)
07:01 <Your_mom_arma> lets all vote green party!
07:01 <GodTodd> are they lizards too?
07:01 <GodTodd> or veggies?
07:01 <kamp> is the pirate party still in existence?
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> weren't they outlawed finally?
07:02 <GodTodd> i wanna vote for the mothers of invention
07:02  * Lucifer_arma has a pirate sticker on his car
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> ok, DrJoeTron (hi there!) 
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> what do you think?
07:02 <kamp> you know
07:02 <kamp> four weeks of play works for five teams
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> Armagetron Fortress League *or* Regular Old Fortress League
07:02 <kamp> but then the playoffs are messed up
07:02 <kamp> unless high seed garners a bye week
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> we can chop 'em
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> I was thinking regardless of number of teams, we just do 4 for the playoffs
07:03 <kamp> oh, drop the low guy?
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> any reason we shouldn't do that?
07:03 <kamp> nah, makes sense
07:03 <kamp> bye weeks are needlessly complicated
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> we'll try to be all inclusive during the fall, up to a max of 8
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> i.e. if we have 10 teams, 8 make the playoffs, 2 make the fuckoffs
07:03 <kamp> and it'd be best for the kiddies that they play every week... or they'll likely forget
07:03 <kamp> i know i would
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> if we have 16 teams, we can play them all against each other
07:04 <kamp> nah
07:04 <kamp> over ten, you need to start cutting teams off from the playoffs
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> it'd be nice to get a final four setup going, that's cool :)
07:04 <kamp> if you have 16 teams, another option would be to make two parallel playoffs happening
07:05 <kamp> of 8 teams apiece, pit the survivor from each for a champ
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> let's just plan for an 8-team playoff for now :)
07:05 <kamp> yea
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> we can change that if registration skyrockets unpredictably
07:05 <kamp> lol
07:05 <kamp> pretty much
07:05 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma when do you want that shirt done by?
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> and 4-team playoff for the july thing
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> DrJoeTron: asap, but pick a name!
07:06 <kamp> pick armagetron fortress league
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> Armagetron Fortress League or Regular Old Fortress League are the two contenders
07:06 <DrJoeTron> i thought we decided on armagetron fortress league?
07:06 <DrJoeTron> nah
07:06 <DrJoeTron> AFL
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> we'd have settled on AFL already if I wasn't pushing ROFL :)
07:06 <kamp> the docta has spoken
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I go start making wiki pages in a minute, after this cigarette :)
07:06 <DrJoeTron> i'll try and get the graphic done this weekend
07:07 <kamp> what's the graphic going to be, anyway?
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> whatever silly thing joe fancies, I imagine :)
07:07 <kamp> oh no
07:07 <DrJoeTron> i got a good one
07:07 <DrJoeTron> as stated last night
07:07 <DrJoeTron> its going to be done in mspaint
07:08 <kamp> wow
07:08 <DrJoeTron> its going to have a guy standing there
07:08 <DrJoeTron> in back of him a giant wall thats been sticking out of him, 
07:08 <DrJoeTron> and theres debris and blood behind him
07:08 <kamp> ..................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
07:08 <kamp> what the hell?
07:08 <DrJoeTron> hell yeah
07:08 <DrJoeTron> its going to be epic
07:08 <kamp> what
07:08 <kamp> the 
07:08 <kamp> hell?
07:08 <kamp> in mspaint
07:09 <DrJoeTron> you've never seen my mspaint drawings?
07:09 <kamp> i don't want to
07:09 <DrJoeTron> better not go to the boards then
07:09 <DrJoeTron> they're in every horrible post
07:09 <kamp> i try and stick to the good ones
07:09 <DrJoeTron> i turn them into good
07:10 <kamp> glicko system
07:10 <kamp> i hate rating systems that work on what you expect to happen
07:11 <kamp> i prefer the systems that are more stat-based, though they both have their pros
07:11 <DrJoeTron> this is what i should Lucifer_arma. its a very very general idea of what its to be
07:11 <DrJoeTron> showed***
07:12 <kamp> ...
07:12 <kamp> i hate you, you know that?
07:12 <DrJoeTron> you fucking better
07:13 <kamp> anyway
07:13 <kamp> i'm not participating either way
07:13 <kamp> so what does the prize matter to me
07:13 <DrJoeTron> exactly
07:14 <DrJoeTron> don't buy it if you don't want it
07:14 <DrJoeTron> im gona buy one
07:14 <DrJoeTron> i'd never wear it
07:14 <DrJoeTron> because its armagetron
07:14 <kamp> haha
07:14 <kamp> pretty much
07:16 <kamp> someday, we just need a logo
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> ok, on the wiki now :)
07:16 <kamp> have fun
07:16 <kamp> i'll look at it tomorrow at work
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> we do need a generic logo, some stylized AFL thing with a cool little graphic
07:16 <kamp> i'm going to sleep
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> 'night
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07:16 <Lucifer_arma> and it needs to be on every fucking thing we do :)
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07:28 <kamp> Lucifer_arma: one last thing
07:28 <kamp> are you making wiki pages?
07:28 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
07:29 <kamp> are they going to be visible tomorrow?
07:29 <Lucifer_arma> visible right now
07:29  * Lucifer_arma works in the open
07:29 <kamp> all right then
07:29 <kamp> i'll check em out
07:29 <kamp> domanni
07:29 <kamp> peace
07:29 <Lucifer_arma> ko
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07:29 <Lucifer_arma> knight
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08:01 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.bbspot.com/News/2001/10/anthrax.html  <--- a little late, but bahahahaha
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> "Thankfully there haven't been any outbreaks of Metallica since 1991."
08:03 <GodTodd> haha
08:03 <GodTodd> I just pray to God that the Center for Disease Control is developing a Stryper vaccine, or we all could be at risk."
08:06 <GodTodd> hrmm...what was the name of the slayer album from '96?
08:07 <GodTodd> ahhh...undisputed attitude
08:07 <GodTodd> nm :)
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> heh
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> stryper
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> man, just saying stryper makes me think of butterscotch candies, because they had drums that looked like the butterscotch candies I was eating at the time
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm 22% white and nerdy
08:10 <GodTodd> haha
08:10 <GodTodd> just 22%?
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.bbspot.com/News/2006/09/white-and-nerdy-quiz.php
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> yep
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> probably would have been lower if I wasn't in calc 4
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> (it's vector calculus, heh)
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08:11 <DrJoeTron> i really like the tub :)
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08:11 <DrJoeTron> i think i did a damn good job on it
08:13 <GodTodd> 46% :/
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08:47 <Lucifer_arma> nerd!
08:47  * Lucifer_arma just read the worst web comic in history
08:48 <GodTodd> joe has one now? :D
08:48 <Your_mom_arm1> joe's had a webcomic
08:48 <Lucifer_arma> heh
08:48 <Your_mom_arm1> it was pretty awful
08:48 <Lucifer_arma> he had that weird one with sprites
08:48 <Lucifer_arma> mega-man, etc
08:50 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm going to setup my scanner and see if it still works
08:50 <Lucifer_arma> if it does, I'm probably going to start a stickman comic :)
08:53 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.brokennewz.com/2008election/
08:54 <Lucifer_arma> As the one time leading candidate to be John Kerry’s Vice Presidential running mate McCain is seeking to remake himself into part GOP elephant and part Democrat donkey. Some people say that makes him a ‘half assed’ candidate.
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09:09 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: ping?
09:09 <GodTodd> for a couple: pong
09:09 <Lucifer_arma> if you remember how to ssh into my server, the tablature is copying over right now
09:10 <Lucifer_arma> it's final destination is /home/share/music/tablature
09:11 <GodTodd> hrmm...somehow my login info isnt in the client :/ you don't happen to have my pwd for it do you?
09:11 <Lucifer_arma> hah
09:11 <Lucifer_arma> o
09:11 <Lucifer_arma> er
09:11 <Lucifer_arma> no
09:12 <GodTodd> bah...didn't figure
09:12  * Lucifer_arma tries to remember how to set a password from a terminal
09:12 <GodTodd> heh
09:14 <Lucifer_arma> ok, it's finished copying
09:18 <Lucifer_arma> yay for old backups!  :)
09:19  * GodTodd loves finding stuff in old backups....found a bunch of writing programs the other day.
09:19 <Lucifer_arma> heh
09:19 <Lucifer_arma> well, there's more irony with this CD, besides the fact that I found it tonight *in my cdrom drive*
09:20 <GodTodd> haha
09:20 <Lucifer_arma> it's the one I originally gave to nick, and he brought it back after seeing more tabs on olga a few months later, saying keeping it up to date was hopeless
09:20 <Lucifer_arma> it's still got "tablature" in his hand-writing on it
09:20 <GodTodd> heh
09:21 <GodTodd> i might actually get some practice time in this next week
09:21 <GodTodd> :)
09:21 <Lucifer_arma> :)
09:21 <GodTodd> yay for spring break
09:21 <GodTodd> heh
09:21 <Lucifer_arma> you might want to take the lesson and burn off a copy for yourself ;)
09:21 <GodTodd> probably will
09:23 <Lucifer_arma> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.music.makers.guitar.tablature/topics  <-- for more tabs
09:24 <GodTodd> yeah...i have a few other bookmarks too
09:24 <GodTodd> they drop every now and again as they get cease and desist letters
09:24 <Lucifer_arma> last time I sat in on a usenet tab group it was 99.9% requests and 0.1% spam
09:25 <Lucifer_arma> I did throw up my own version of the star spangled banner, though
09:25 <GodTodd> cool :)
09:25 <Lucifer_arma> it's not terribly creative, but it sounds nice ;)
09:25 <GodTodd> heh
09:25 <GodTodd> didn't randy brown do that at an assembly in high school once and everyone freaked?
09:25 <Lucifer_arma> now, where did I put the plugs for this scanner?
09:26  * GodTodd seems to remember that...
09:26 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, he did
09:26 <Lucifer_arma> some uptight teacher pitched a fit over it, I forget who
09:26 <GodTodd> yeah
09:26 <Lucifer_arma> the kids loved it, though
09:26 <GodTodd> it wasn't bad, as i remember it :)
09:26 <Lucifer_arma> I still don't get how it's such a bad thing to play that particular song on an electric guitar
09:26 <Lucifer_arma> but whatever, I don't think I'll ever understand that
09:27 <GodTodd> dunno...jimi did ok on it ;)
09:27 <Lucifer_arma> man, I do this thing where for the rockets' red glare part I throw it down in power chords
09:28 <GodTodd> power chords rule
09:28 <Lucifer_arma> it's right in the range for really sweet power chords :)
09:28 <GodTodd> i should probably learn chords pretty well, eh?
09:28 <Lucifer_arma> iirc the sequences starts on E, so if you play it based on the A string at fret 7 it sounds nice
09:28 <Lucifer_arma> scales, focus on scales
09:28 <GodTodd> ah ok
09:28 <Lucifer_arma> chords are constructed from scales, so understand scales
09:28 <GodTodd> makes sense :)
09:29 <Lucifer_arma> basically, you pick out 3-4 notes from a scale, play them at the same time, and you have a chord
09:29 <Lucifer_arma> if you know some shit I don't remember anymore, you can even name it
09:29 <GodTodd> heh
09:29 <Lucifer_arma> so know one or two scales, be familiar with what some of the others look like (even if you can't rip them out)
09:29 <Lucifer_arma> then you'll tear up chords and learn new ones like there's no tomorrow
09:29 <GodTodd> cool
09:31 <GodTodd> wow...still 'calculating directory size' heh
09:31 <Lucifer_arma> there's a Scales directory in that tab directory
09:31 <GodTodd> good :)
09:31 <Lucifer_arma> it's a ton of small files
09:31 <Lucifer_arma> really.  The whole CD is only like 20 MB
09:31 <GodTodd> yeah...tabs are itty bitty
09:31 <Lucifer_arma> if you want, I can tarball it up real quick
09:31 <GodTodd> nah...this is cool
09:32 <GodTodd> looks like it's counted about a quarter of it
09:32 <GodTodd> it's at approx 6MB
09:32 <GodTodd> it's at the olgacountry directory
09:33 <Lucifer_arma> er, 243MB
09:33 <Lucifer_arma> I just checked
09:33 <Lucifer_arma> let me tarball it real quick
09:33 <GodTodd> heh
09:35 <Lucifer_arma> ok, recheck /home/share/music
09:36 <Lucifer_arma> there's a tablature.tar.gz file that's only 78M
09:36 <Lucifer_arma> you'll need something that can decompress it, like 7-zip
09:36 <GodTodd> yeah i have stuff to deal with tarballs
09:36 <Lucifer_arma> but it's better than waiting all night hoping it doesn't drop connection while sizing the directory :)
09:37  * Lucifer_arma needs to sort through that directory some time, there's a whole lot of cruft in it
09:37 <GodTodd> hrmm...don't see the tar
09:37 <GodTodd> nm
09:37 <GodTodd> refreshed
09:39 <GodTodd> says it'll take about half an hour
09:40 <Lucifer_arma> took all night when I made the mirror originally :)
09:40 <GodTodd> heh
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10:07 <Lucifer_arma> GIMP doesn't handle scanner anymore?
10:08 <spidey> this is gonna be un-fun
10:08 <spidey> :(
10:08 <Lucifer_arma> aha, have to install some more packages
10:09 <spidey> i have to make 1 control panel for every game on our dedicated server :(
10:09 <Lucifer_arma> if this works, though, I'm going to have to dig up my other usb cable.  I borrowed the one from my laser printer
10:09 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: server for arma?
10:09 <spidey> ?
10:09 <spidey> it's dedicated
10:09 <spidey> we run 3 games, apache and mysql on it
10:09 <Lucifer_arma> oh, you mean general purpose dedicated server
10:10 <spidey> .....
10:10 <spidey> and i have to make a control panel to edit stuff/ view logs for every game on it :/
10:11 <spidey> i'm just happy the forums are back
10:11 <spidey> try copy/pasting 16mb of .sql :|
10:12 <spidey> stupid phpmyadmin doesn't have a import option in the new version!
10:12 <spidey> you can upload a .sql db, but it can only be 2mb
10:15 <spidey> i'm in a good mood
10:15 <spidey> so i'ma read my phpbooks
10:16 <spidey> if the pot lasts long enough i'll read all my C books to :D:D
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10:17 <spidey> deja_vu, 
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10:17 <spidey> lol
10:20 <Lucifer_arma> yay, scanner works
10:20 <spidey> can i have it?
10:21 <spidey> shit
10:21 <spidey> fish sticks burning, brb :O
10:21 <Lucifer_arma> now, why would I go through all the trouble of seeing if it works just to give it to you?
10:23 <deja_vu_> spidey: 
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10:25 <spidey> deja_vu, what do you want?
10:25 <deja_vu> money
10:26 <spidey> ok
10:26 <deja_vu> uhm... and some coffee maybe
10:26 <spidey> i give you 2 ones and you give me a 5
10:26  * deja_vu hands spidey 5 cent
10:27  * spidey hands deja_vu 1 and runs off
10:27 <spidey> :O
10:27  * deja_vu catches spidey and grinds him to coffee
10:27 <spidey> hey, no fair!
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10:29 <spidey> hi
10:29 <Angel-H> hi :)
10:30 <Lucifer_arma> ok, cool, now, what do I call my web comic?
10:30  * Lucifer_arma just cleaned off his scanner, it'll be good enough
10:30 <spidey> ??
10:30 <spidey> o.O
10:31 <Lucifer_arma> well, the glass is a little scratched and pitted in places
10:31 <Lucifer_arma> but I think I can live with it
10:31 <Lucifer_arma> it sat in the bottom of my closet for awhile with plastic boxes and who knows what else being stacked on it
10:32 <Angel-H> Lucifer i would give you my scanner if you lived nearer :P
10:33 <Lucifer_arma> :)  ty
10:33 <Lucifer_arma> you should see my crappy drawing before you make such an offer!  ;)
10:33 <Angel-H> i would happily send it you, but me thinks that would cost more than buying a new one :P
10:33 <Lucifer_arma> more than likely
10:33 <Angel-H> i would love to see it 
10:33 <Lucifer_arma> if I do a good web comic, though, being able to afford a scanner will be the least of my worries
10:34 <Lucifer_arma> I've got 4 characters in mind in two separate plotlines, so it won't just be the emo kid and the terrorist
10:35 <Angel-H> sound sinteresting and i want to see it, so get scanning :P
10:36 <Lucifer_arma> I've gotta draw some strips first :)
10:37 <Angel-H> i assumed it was all done and just needed scanning, doh :P and i would love to be able to draw, it takes tonnes of talent and confidence
10:38 <Lucifer_arma> well, see, I can't draw, really.  I mean, occasionally something I draw looks almost recognizable
10:38 <Lucifer_arma> but I read a stickman comic that ws almost funny most of the time, and really funny the rest of the time
10:39 <Lucifer_arma> and I went and read the guy's commentary on it and thought "I can do that!"
10:39 <Angel-H> thats where the confidence part somes in :)
10:40 <Angel-H> comes even :P
10:40 <Angel-H> ive got a dyslexic keyboard :P
10:42 <Lucifer_arma> it's ok.  I've got a dyslexic brain, so I didn't even notice
10:42 <Angel-H> :)
10:42  * Angel-H really wants to give you her scanner, its brand new and i have another new one :)
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10:51 <Lackadaisical> hi
10:51 <Lucifer_arma> hi Lackadaisical (hi there!) 
10:51 <Lackadaisical> um.. does anyone know if textures are already available for the cockpit?
10:52 <Lackadaisical> because they are mentioned in the wiki article but not explained how you should use them
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10:53 <Lucifer_arma> Lackadaisical: I don't remember, better ask wrtlprnft (hi there!) 
10:53 <Lackadaisical> hi!
10:53 <Lucifer_arma> I think he did some work to make it possible, but hasn't yet
10:53 <Lucifer_arma> he might be waiting for me to do some miscellaneous resource work first
10:54 <Lackadaisical> ah ok, guess i'll ask him when he's here
10:55 <Lucifer_arma> well, it's been on my todo-list for quite awhile now to add zipped resource formats and linking to external files, I just haven't gotten a round tuit
10:56 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, I need to finish cleaning off my desk so I can put my scanner on it :)
10:56 <Lackadaisical> gl :)
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11:07 <z-man-work> Lucifer_arma: DSWC would be consistent :)
11:08 <Lucifer_arma> dswc?  huh?
11:08 <Lucifer_arma> ahhh
11:08 <Lucifer_arma> dave's stupid web comic :)
11:08  * Lucifer_arma is a little slow at 4am
11:16 <Lucifer_arma> now that I've moved my scanner, it's broke again!  :(
11:17 <spidey> HAHA
11:17 <spidey> -cap
11:17 <spidey> everytime i come out of a fullscreen game my caps lock key sticks :/
11:18 <Lucifer_arma> damn thing's temperamental
11:18  * Lucifer_arma hopes his web comic is a hit so he can buy a new scanner
11:20 <Lucifer_arma> it's pretty sad when you're trying on the clothes you got for christmas in the first part of march
11:20 <spidey> lol
11:23 <Lucifer_arma> man, my wife will *never* let me leave the house looking like this
11:24  * Lucifer_arma should take a picture
11:24 <spidey> rofl
11:24 <Lucifer_arma> long sleeves, so my motorcycle scars are all covered up
11:25 <Lucifer_arma> I can't believe nobody liked Regular Old Fortress League :(
11:30 <Lucifer_arma> I like the black shirt a lot.  I haven't had a good nice-looking black shirt in years
11:30 <Lucifer_arma> hell, if I had a black tie to put under it, I might even wear it
11:31 <Lucifer_arma> now, I'll go bury them in the bottom of the laundry pile and tell my wife about them, and we'll see how long before the laundry gets done :)
11:38 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.bbspot.com/News/BBloopers/2006/02/2029.php
11:39 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.bbspot.com/News/BBloopers/2006/02/2019.php
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12:41 <z-man-work> Lucifer_arma: I didn't say I don't like Regular Olf Fortress League. I like naming new things "Old" from the start :)
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14:33 <wrtlprnft> Lackadaisical: no, they aren't :(
14:33 <wrtlprnft> you'd need to be able to store binary data in resources for that.
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17:10 <luke-jr|work> wifi sux
17:32 <xfroggy> amen!
17:43 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/HIM/race/speed_race-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by HIM
17:45 <epsy> luke-jr|work, what about ftp ?
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18:17 <luke-jr|work> epsy: ...
18:17 <luke-jr|work> epsy: wtf are you talking about?
18:25 <epsy> luke-jr|work, no, nothing
18:25 <luke-jr|work> ...
18:25 <epsy> …
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19:22 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
19:22 <armabot> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (8 players) || GEMINI PROJECT (6 players) || {Delicious Desserts} Custom Map (6 players) || °¯ps Arena ~~~ Team Sumo ~~~ (6 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (5 players) || Strawberry Fields (5 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬ (5 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (4 players) || The Tavern (4 players) || Norm's Place (3 players) || ~"XzL.Clan (1 more message)
19:22 <Vanhayes> #serverinfo cafe
19:22 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: No online players.
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20:18 <Lucifer_arma> owwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
20:19 <luke-jr|work> ...
20:19 <GodTodd> well don't do that then
20:20 <Lucifer_arma> it's my leg, heh.  From working out
20:20 <Lucifer_arma> I hope the little pain today means I won't have any pain tomorrow
20:21 <Lucifer_arma> I've been having pretty bad pains in my hamstrings on saturdays, so I've been working my hamstrings during the week to strengthen them,
20:21 <Lucifer_arma> figuring they won't hurt so much/at all if I buff them up a bit
20:22 <Lucifer_arma> so today the hamstrings feel fine, but the muscle they're attached to is hurting :)
20:23 <GodTodd> heh
20:26 <GodTodd> yay! joe's garage is going on the hdd now :)
20:29 <Lucifer_arma> but they don't have no dope or lsd!
20:30 <GodTodd> man...i haven't heard that cd in a long time :/
20:31 <Lucifer_arma> this is the central scrutinizer again.
20:32 <Lucifer_arma> well, my wife just went off to take her college algebra mid-term
20:32 <GodTodd> the white zone is for loading and unloading
20:32 <GodTodd> ahhh
20:32 <GodTodd> college algebra was fun
20:32 <Lucifer_arma> now my 3yo is showing me the butts on all of his toys
20:32 <Lucifer_arma> actually, he's got an ape duking it out with Darth Tater
20:33 <GodTodd> darth tater will win
20:33 <Lucifer_arma> nope, darth tater's getting dissassembled.  Must be Number 5.
20:34 <GodTodd> that reminds me of when i didn't know to be scared or proud when i found a bunch of tommy's stuffed toys with surgically removed hands once
20:34 <Lucifer_arma> haha
20:35 <GodTodd> hey! armabot's theme song
20:35 <GodTodd> :)
20:35 <GodTodd> fembot in a wet t-shirt
20:45 <Lucifer_arma> heh
20:45 <Lucifer_arma> but to get a really good one you'll have to learn a foreign language
20:47 <GodTodd> ?
20:47 <Lucifer_arma> I guess that's in a different song
20:48 <Lucifer_arma> where, ironically, he says the best sex toys speak german
20:48 <Lucifer_arma> armabot: do you speak german?
20:48 <armabot> Another day...
20:48 <GodTodd> ahhh
20:48 <GodTodd> i remember that
20:48 <GodTodd> heh
20:49 <GodTodd> my balls feel like a pair of maracas :/
20:51 <Lucifer_arma> heh, I told my wife we had chlamydia by singing "Why does it hurt when I pee?" while I was peeing
20:51 <GodTodd> the german thing is in stick it out, isn't it?
20:51 <GodTodd> heh
20:52 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
20:52 <Lucifer_arma> man, 3 year olds are the happiest people in the world
20:52 <Lucifer_arma> I have to go play fussball with him, bbiab
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20:53 <GodTodd> nonono...actually that line is in A Token Of My Extreme
20:53 <GodTodd> then leads into stick it out
20:53 <GodTodd> :)
20:53 <GodTodd> there we go
20:53 <GodTodd> looked it up
20:53 <GodTodd> heh
20:58 <Lucifer_arma> we're not gonna take it, no we ain't gonna take it, we're not gonna take it anymore!
20:59 <GodTodd> heh
21:02 <Lucifer_arma> you're all worthless and weak, now drop and give me 20!
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21:14 <Lucifer_arma> damn, when was this song written?
21:15 <GodTodd> which?
21:15 <spidey> i think it's funny to give your clan members admin on a server and say have fun with it
21:15 <Lucifer_arma> Rockin' in the Free World
21:15 <Lucifer_arma> it's the Neil Young version, not neil young w/Pearl Jam
21:16 <Lucifer_arma> but the last verse refers to Bush's thousand points of light, and I just thought it was an older song
21:17 <GodTodd> "Rockin' in the Free World" is a song by Neil Young, released on his 1989 record Freedom. 
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21:18 <GodTodd> The lyrics of the song also criticize the administration of George H. W. Bush. The line "We got a thousand points of light / For the homeless man" refers to Bush's famous use of the phrase "a thousand points of light" in a call for volunteerism. The following line "We got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand" is a cynical take on another of his phrases: during the 1988 U.S. Presidential campaign, he called for "a kinder and gentler n
21:18 <GodTodd> ation."
21:18 <GodTodd> heh
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21:30 <Lucifer_arma> I want to figure out the bass line for The Stranger
21:30 <GodTodd> billy joel?
21:30 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
21:30 <Lucifer_arma> oddly enough it's one of his lesser known songs :(
21:31 <GodTodd> i think i have a chord/piano book with it
21:31 <GodTodd> dunno about bass line
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21:31 <Lucifer_arma> bass line's pretty intense
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21:32 <GodTodd> yeah the only book i have with it is the piano/vocal/guitar
21:33 <GodTodd> heh
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21:34 <Lucifer_arma> I figured out the intro on my guitar one time
21:34 <Lucifer_arma> I can still play it, but I have to think about it pretty hard
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21:35 <spidey> wrtlprnft, Lucifer_arma ping
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21:35 <Lucifer_arma> WHAT?!?!?
21:35 <spidey> i'm about to start working on a control panel for all the games we have on the dedicated server
21:35 <spidey> but i have 1 problem i can't work around :/
21:35 <Lucifer_arma> congratulations!
21:35 <Lucifer_arma> er
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21:36 <Lucifer_away> heh
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21:36 <Lucifer_arma> ok, what's the problem?
21:36 <spidey> how do i get the PID of the proccess for the exact server i want the stop/restart for
21:36 <Lucifer_arma> write it to a file when you start the server, then read that file
21:36 <spidey> i can't just do exec('killall blahblah') because there'll be more than one
21:37 <spidey> oh, k
21:37 <Lucifer_arma> look at the arma init script for an example of how to write it to a file
21:37 <spidey> k
21:39 <GodTodd> tell him no
21:39 <GodTodd> don't let him tell you what to do
21:39 <GodTodd> :D
21:41 <Lucifer_arma> tell godtodd to enjoy the taste of my left nut
21:41 <GodTodd> i gotta move?
21:41 <spidey> haha
21:41 <GodTodd> i prefer the right one
21:42 <Lucifer_arma> but that ones luke's, because he's always right!
21:42 <GodTodd> maybe we can share and make out a little too ;)
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21:42 <Lucifer_arma> heh
21:47 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, which file O.o
21:47  * spidey extracted a autopackage because it wouldn't install
22:02 <Lucifer_arma> er
22:02 <Lucifer_arma> hang on
22:03 <Lucifer_arma> http://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/batch/rcd_startstop.in
22:03 <Lucifer_arma> it's a little hard to read though
22:04 <Lucifer_arma> http://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/batch/serverstarter.in
22:04 <Lucifer_arma> there's a line in there that does it too
22:06 <spidey> yea
22:06 <spidey> i read them
22:06 <spidey> btw, how do you install a .rpm on debian?
22:09 <spidey> nvm :D
22:11 <epsy> spidey, alien
22:11 <spidey> yea
22:11 <spidey> root@zion:/home# alien -d armagetronad-dedicated-
22:11 <spidey> :P
22:18 <Lucifer_arma> Where's MrBougo when you need him?
22:18 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.bbspot.com/News/BBloopers/2005/07/1593.php
22:23 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.bbspot.com/News/BBloopers/2005/07/1569.php  <--- hahahahaha
22:35 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, i hate wikis :(
22:35 <Lucifer_arma> that's good, because wikis hate you
22:35 <spidey> is there a page that shows how to install a tron server in linux?
22:35 <spidey> with custom directories
22:36 <Lucifer_arma> probably not
22:36 <spidey> :/
22:36 <Lucifer_arma> how custom do you want them to be?
22:37 <spidey> mostly everything be in /home/armagetron
22:37 <Lucifer_arma> if you build from source, you can just ./configure --prefix=
22:37 <spidey> hmm
22:37 <Lucifer_arma> I think the autopackage will let you specify where to put it, but if not, you can su armagetron and install it
22:37 <Lucifer_arma> to your home directory :)
22:37 <Lucifer_arma> (Because after you su armagetron, your home directory is armagetron)
22:38 <Lucifer_arma> the server builds easily, you just need libxml2 iirc
22:39 <spidey> installing libxml2
22:39 <Lucifer_arma> my wife needs to hurry up, I've gotta go to my physics class in a bit
22:39 <Lucifer_arma> install libxml2-dev also :)
22:39 <spidey> k
22:39 <Lucifer_arma> you might need something like glibc-dev, but I've never needed to isntall something like that
22:39 <Lucifer_arma> usually it's in the base system
22:40 <Lucifer_arma> I'd also recommend you use an svn checkout to build
22:40 <Lucifer_arma> if you're going to build from source, it's generally easiest to upgrade/update from an svn checkout than a source tarball
22:40 <spidey> 0% [Connecting to mirrors.kernel.org (]   <--- won't go past that :/
22:40 <Lucifer_arma> but for that you need automake installed
22:40 <spidey> it is i think
22:41 -!- DDL71 [i=DDLer@resnet-33290.remote.port.ac.uk] has joined #armagetron
22:41 <spidey> i'ma have to download the libxml2  deb and install it
22:42 -!- DDL71 is now known as Xell
22:42 <spidey> aptitude's being moody :|
22:42 <Xell> Hello
22:43 <madmax|pt> hi
22:43 -!- Xell [i=DDLer@resnet-33290.remote.port.ac.uk] has quit [Client Quit]
22:44 <spidey> #list alias
22:44 <armabot> spidey: add, armabot, armaconfig, bigbrother, bug, chatlog, check, damn, dance, date, die, die, digg, do, eliza, f, fortune, g, gcalc, goodbye, hello, insight, ircstats, joke, kill, lastseen, legit, lock, log, log, luke, m, man, message, mfaq, morning, night, onlineplayers, onlineservers, pacman, piong, poing, praise, q, realchatlogs, remove, resources, rou, roulette, roulete, rules, (1 more message)
22:44 -!- Xelly [i=DDLer@resnet-33290.remote.port.ac.uk] has joined #armagetron
22:44 -!- Xelly is now known as Xell
22:44 -!- Xell is now known as Xelly
22:44 <Xelly> grr it's owned.
22:46 <spidey> #resources
22:46 <armabot> http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/
22:46 <spidey> #more
22:46 <armabot> spidey: serverdetails, serverinfo, svn, t, uberinsult, unlock, whoareyou, and wikipedia
22:46 <spidey> #svn
22:46 <armabot> svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad <dirname> (more information: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Working_with_SVN )
22:51 -!- epsy [n=epsy@mar75-4-82-227-65-72.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["END OF LINE"]
22:53 <spidey> i don't need subversion-tools do i?
22:54 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, 
22:54 <spidey> svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad'
22:54 <spidey> svn: PROPFIND of '/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad': Server certificate verification failed: issuer is not trusted (https://svn.sourceforge.net)
23:01 <[dlh]> #alias add svn echo svn co https://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad
23:01 <armabot> [dlh]: The operation succeeded.
23:01 <[dlh]> #svn
23:01 <armabot> svn co https://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad
23:02 <spidey> [dlh], says the samething
23:02 <[dlh]> #alias add svn echo svn co https://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad <dirname>(more information: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Working_with_SVN)
23:02 <armabot> [dlh]: The operation succeeded.
23:03 <spidey> nvm, got it :O
23:18 <spidey> i just got a shitload of errors when i ran bootstrap.sh
23:18 <spidey> O.o
23:25 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, need boostlib to :P
23:25 <_Sticky_> #serverinfo cafe
23:25 <armabot> _Sticky_: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): G5, Player 1, Radian, [1[[1O, °¯AshitakA, °°RageLord
23:32 <spidey> O.o
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23:37 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-216-182-238.client.mchsi.com] has joined #Armagetron
23:38 <spidey> ?
23:38 <ghableska> ?
23:38 <madmax|pt> ?
23:38 <spidey> wrong window
23:38 <ghableska> heh
23:40 <GodTodd> wodniw gnorw
23:45 <ghableska> #weather 50266
23:45 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 50.9°F (4:41 PM CST on March 08, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 35.6°F. Pressure: 28.99 in 981.6 hPa. 
23:45 <ghableska> :o!
23:45 <spidey> #weather 38256
23:45 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 65.5°F (4:46 PM CST on March 08, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: 37.4°F. Pressure: 30.03 in 1016.8 hPa. 
23:45 <ghableska> it's above freezing!
23:45 <spidey> haha
23:46 <ghableska> #dance
23:46 <armabot> ghableska does the 'I killed chat' dance.
23:46 <luke-jr|work> foo
23:46 <spidey> ..
23:46 <spidey> luke-jr|work, join #fa :P
23:46 <luke-jr|work> done
23:47 -!- kamp [n=cpayan@ip72-209-64-18.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #armagetron
23:48 <kamp> ...
23:48 <kamp> hi
23:48 <ghableska> hey kamp
23:48 <kamp> what's up?>
23:48 <ghableska> it's above freezing here :D
23:49 <kamp> it was hot today
23:49 <kamp> summer's here!
23:49 <kamp> spring break starts tomorrow
23:49 <kamp> life is good again
23:49  * ghableska has spring break in exactly one week
23:50 <kamp> sucks to be you
23:50 <kamp> because it won't be spring by then!
23:50 <kamp> you should come down to gainesville
23:51 <ghableska> nah
23:52 <kamp> aw, why not?
23:52 <kamp> it's nice
23:52 <kamp> the temperature is over freezing
23:52 <kamp> :)
23:53  * ghableska is going to sleep during spring break
23:53 <kamp> hahaha
23:53 <kamp> i'm not
23:53 <kamp> :)
23:53 <kamp> probably come out more tired than i came in
23:53 <kamp> sleep is for class, vacation is for good times
23:54 <ghableska> lol
23:54 <kamp> where are you going to school anyway?
23:55 <ghableska> high school?
23:56 <kamp> oh
23:56 <kamp> get older, dude
23:56 <ghableska> haha
23:58 <GodTodd> older? he's already 25 and in high school ;)
23:58 <GodTodd> heh
23:58 <ghableska> o_O
23:58 <kamp> hehe
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