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Log from 2007-03-07:
--- Day changed Wed Mar 07 2007
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00:20 <Poppet> anyone know why my fps has been super low lately, its been like 3-5
00:20 <luke-jr> wizzee : 4359-4441 (rating = 4400.30751825; RD = 20.4594057292; volatility = 0.0
00:20 <luke-jr> spidey : 1928-2010 (rating = 1969.14368415; RD = 20.4594057288; volatility = 0.0
00:21 <Poppet> Luke-jr: what are you doing
00:21 <luke-jr> testing Glicko-2
00:21 <luke-jr> luke-jr : 1514-1596 (rating = 1554.8140387; RD = 20.4594057288; volatility = 0.0
00:22 <luke-jr> durka : 943-1025 (rating = 984.103165199; RD = 20.4594057288; volatility = 0.06)
00:22 <luke-jr> does Durka really suck that much? XD
00:22 <Poppet> you got a guess as to why my fps is so low
00:23 <luke-jr> sucky PC
00:23 <Poppet> it was fine last week
00:23 <Poppet> like up in the 150s
00:23 <luke-jr> ghableska : 948-1030 (rating = 988.939698026; RD = 20.4594057288; volatility = 0
00:23 <Poppet> 150-200
00:23 <luke-jr> someone stole your video card
00:23 <Poppet> lol
00:24 <Poppet> using lap top, cant take out video card without me noticing the computer the keyboard is gone
00:25 <luke-jr> silver : 1811-1892 (rating = 1851.45471871; RD = 20.4594057288; volatility = 0.0
00:25 <Poppet> i did a virus scan and it didnt say there were any viruses
00:25 <Poppet> maybe i should defrag the computer
00:25 <luke-jr> maybe someone installed Windows on it
00:25 <Poppet> hmmm?
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00:32 <ghableska> lol luke-jr
00:32 <luke-jr> ...
00:33 <DrJoeTron> wrtlprnft i put the tub up again
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00:37 <luke-jr> ...
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00:55 <xfroggy> #roulette
00:55 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
00:55 * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
00:56 <ghableska> #roulette
00:56 <armabot> ghableska: *click*
01:01 <Van-hayes> #roulette
01:01 <armabot> Van-hayes: *click*
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01:06 <madmax|pt> #roulette
01:06 <armabot> madmax|pt: *click*
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01:09 <Van-hayes> #roulette
01:09 <armabot> Van-hayes: *click*
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01:09 <ghableska> #roulette
01:09 <armabot> ghableska: *click*
01:09 -!- Van-hayes is now known as Vanhayes
01:09 <Poppet> mmm, armabot is alive again
01:09 <Poppet> #help server
01:10 <armabot> Poppet: Error: There is no command "server".
01:10 <Poppet> #help lastseen
01:10 <armabot> Poppet: (lastseen <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/lastseen.php?player=@1+@2+@3+@4+@5+@6+@7+@8+@9".
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01:11 <Poppet> #kill armabot
01:11 <armabot> armabot will die on Thu Apr 15 04:41:49 1999 due to being stabbed in the eye by ghableska.
01:12 <Poppet> #kill Poppet
01:12 <ghableska> ...
01:12 <armabot> Poppet will die on Sun Sep 24 22:14:57 1989 due to being stabbed in the eye by wrtlprnft.
01:12 <ghableska> armabot has #weather; why would I kill her?
01:12 <ghableska> #weather 50266
01:12 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 35.4°F (6:11 PM CST on March 06, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 24.8°F. Windchill: 32.0°F. Pressure: 29.15 in 987.0 hPa (Falling).
01:12 <Poppet> lol
01:12 <Poppet> #weather Irvine
01:12 <armabot> Poppet: The current temperature in Irvine, CA is 76.0°F. Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 34%. Wind: SSW at 10 mph (16 km/h).
01:13 <Poppet> wow, its hot in cali
01:13 <Poppet> 20 degrees here
01:13 <Poppet> #lastseen Seraph
01:13 <armabot> Poppet: Seraph has last been seen on °¯ps Arena ~~~ Team Sumo ~~~ 42 minutes ago.
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01:32 * spider_ doesn't like phpmyadmin 2.6 :(
01:32 <spider_> there's no import option!
01:41 <DrJoeTron> #cnn 60016
01:41 <armabot> DrJoeTron: The current temperature in Des Plaines, IL is 24.0°F. Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 52%. Wind: SSE at 11 mph (18 km/h).
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01:45 <spider_> Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 8388608 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 2245027 bytes) in /usr/share/phpmyadmin/libraries/read_dump.lib.php on line 91
01:45 <spider_> haha
01:47 <spider_> #g 8388608 bytes ub MB
01:47 <armabot> spider_: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
01:47 <ghableska> heh
01:47 <spider_> #g 8388608 bytes in MB
01:47 <armabot> spider_: 8,388,608 bytes = 8 megabytes
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01:51 <ghableska> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/surrey/6422215.stm <-- wow
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02:14 <Poppet>
02:14 <ghableska>
02:14 <Poppet> #lastseen Poppet
02:14 <armabot> Poppet: Poppet has last been seen on The Lobster Tub(TEST) 58 minutes ago.
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02:18 <Grguitarfreek> ello
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02:19 <ghableska> o_O
02:44 <_Sticky_> oh dear 2020's target has risen to 1billion players
02:44 <ghableska> uhh
02:44 <ghableska> where?
02:44 <_Sticky_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFaDPE4qptM&mode=related&search=
02:45 <ghableska> sigh
02:45 <_Sticky_> #g 1,000,000,000 / (365*10)
02:45 <armabot> _Sticky_: 1,000,000,000 / (365 * 10) = 273,972.603
02:46 <_Sticky_> 273k new players a day for 10 years
02:51 -!- kamp [n=kamp@ip72-209-64-18.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #armagetron
02:51 <kamp> hey
02:51 <_Sticky_> hay
02:51 <kamp> how're you?
02:51 <ghableska> hey kamp
02:51 <_Sticky_> ok
02:52 <kamp> cool
02:52 <kamp> hey ghab
02:52 <kamp> either of you linux users?
02:52 <_Sticky_> yup
02:52 <ghableska> nope :p
02:52 <kamp> neat, what do you use for instant messaging?
02:52 <_Sticky_> gaim
02:52 <kamp> bah
02:52 <_Sticky_> no good??
02:52 <kamp> i'm probably going to move to linux sometime in the next couple months
02:52 <kamp> i hate gaim
02:53 <kamp> i was looking for something more lightweight
02:53 <kamp> one of my favorite apps on windows is miniaim :) 81 kb
02:53 <_Sticky_> hmm seem to remeber ther are alternatives
02:53 <kamp> yea
02:53 <kamp> besides that, do you use gtalk?
02:53 <kamp> like, through gaim?
02:53 <_Sticky_> no linux port of miniaim?
02:53 <kamp> nah
02:54 <_Sticky_> gtalk??
02:54 <kamp> it's just some guy's program
02:54 <kamp> google talk
02:54 <_Sticky_> never heard of gtalk
02:54 <kamp> google talk?!
02:54 <_Sticky_> nope
02:54 <kamp> wow man
02:54 <_Sticky_> heh out of touch i guess
02:54 <kamp> do you need a new roof on that rock you're living under?
02:54 <kamp> :P
02:55 <kamp> oh well
02:55 <kamp> how about browser?
02:55 <kamp> do you know if there's Opera for linux?
02:56 <kamp> ah well i can just check
02:56 <_Sticky_> opera shows up in apt
02:57 <kamp> ah
02:57 <kamp> you use debian?
02:57 <_Sticky_> kubuntu
02:57 <kamp> oh, and it shows up in apt?
02:57 <_Sticky_> yeah
02:57 <kamp> i seem to remember ubuntu being anal about closed-source software
02:57 <_Sticky_> no more so than any other distro i dont think
02:58 <kamp> oh, but there's the whole thing where you put in the universe repositories right?
02:58 <kamp> neat, Opera has new builds regardless
02:58 <_Sticky_> yeah the default repos dont have that much in them so you do have to add the extra repos if you want a wide range of options
02:58 <kamp> and for like, every linux distribution
02:59 <kamp> ah, i see
02:59 <kamp> man
02:59 <kamp> i wouldn't mind working for opera
02:59 <kamp> but they have two locations
02:59 <kamp> oslo and seoul
02:59 <_Sticky_> even arma is in one of them...altho only 0.2.7.0
02:59 <kamp> seoul = too "other language" i don't know
03:00 <kamp> oslo = too damn cold
03:00 -!- spider_ is now known as spidey
03:00 <kamp> i remember that
03:00 <_Sticky_> why so keen to work for opera??
03:00 <kamp> that they only had an old old version when i used ubuntu
03:00 <kamp> because
03:00 <kamp> i like the product a lot
03:00 <kamp> of course!
03:01 <_Sticky_> just when people list their dream jobs few would come up with working for opera
03:01 <kamp> heh
03:02 <kamp> well it's not "work for google" "work for msoft"
03:02 <kamp> but it's very nice
03:02 <_Sticky_> naa firefox ftw
03:02 <kamp> firefox...
03:02 <kamp> i have nothing against firefox
03:03 <kamp> but i like opera better
03:03 <kamp> it's smaller, faster, and most important to me, more keyboard shortcuts :)
03:03 <kamp> from a working there standpoint, mozilla seems more focused on desktop applications for using the internet
03:03 <kamp> while opera is all about the browser
03:04 <_Sticky_> hmm interesting opera accounts for 1.6% of my visitor traffic
03:04 <kamp> i mean, there's opera, opera mini, opera for PDAs and phones, opera for the wii, opera for the ds.... so on
03:04 <kamp> heh
03:04 <kamp> yea
03:04 <kamp> a lot of people get weirded out by my own opera install
03:04 <_Sticky_> thats actualy quite high
03:04 <kamp> and that's just because i have it set so the address bar doesn't show up
03:05 <kamp> conversations go like this
03:05 <kamp> "let me show you this... hold on..."
03:05 <kamp> "..."
03:05 <kamp> "......"
03:05 <_Sticky_> considering 83% go to IE and FF alone
03:05 <kamp> "where's the address bar?"
03:05 <kamp> "press f2, dude"
03:05 <kamp> hm
03:05 <kamp> i wonder what the remaining percentage is
03:05 <kamp> lynx :)
03:06 <_Sticky_> 0.21%
03:06 <kamp> wow
03:06 <spidey> yay
03:06 <kamp> ?
03:06 <_Sticky_> Phoenix 0.04%
03:06 <spidey> finally got everything copied!
03:06 <kamp> what's your site anyway?
03:06 <kamp> never heard of phoenix
03:07 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.net now
03:07 <_Sticky_> nothing interesting
03:07 <kamp> heh
03:07 <kamp> is that the name of the site?
03:07 <spidey> ...
03:07 <kamp> :P or just a disclaimer
03:07 <_Sticky_> heh
03:07 <kamp> err
03:07 <kamp> nice spidey
03:08 <kamp> sort of dull for now
03:08 <_Sticky_> FA new??
03:08 <kamp> and i personally hate dark sites
03:08 <ghableska> "please bare with us
03:08 <ghableska> "
03:08 <ghableska> heh
03:08 <spidey> :(
03:08 <kamp> yea :)
03:08 <_Sticky_> yeah install some strobes
03:08 <spidey> you know
03:08 <spidey> phpmyadmin 2.6.2 doesn't have a fucking import option
03:08 <ghableska> at least it's not an eye-cancer inducing website
03:08 <kamp> do you really need two navigational things?
03:08 <spidey> i had to copy 16mb of sql and manually add it
03:08 <spidey> >:|
03:08 <ghableska> with neon green text on a pink background
03:09 <kamp> as well as a footer that quite functionally says "footer"?
03:09 <_Sticky_> remember spidey nothing says class like comic sans
03:09 <spidey> it's not close to done :P
03:09 <ghableska> ewww
03:09 <ghableska> not comic sans!
03:09 <spidey> i probably won't even use that layout
03:09 <_Sticky_> yay all hail comic sans
03:09 <kamp> lol
03:10 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.net/design1/ "might" go with that
03:10 <kamp> hey hey
03:10 <ghableska> #kill _Sticky_
03:10 <armabot> _Sticky_ will die on Mon Jul 9 15:10:58 1984 due to being stabbed in the eye by armabot.
03:10 <kamp> looks the same
03:10 <_Sticky_> http://bancomicsans.com/
03:10 <ghableska> I know :)
03:10 <_Sticky_> heh
03:10 <ghableska> spidey, I like the second on
03:10 <ghableska> e
03:10 <kamp> spidey: that design looks the same
03:10 <kamp> just with a different background
03:10 <ghableska> you should make it a bit more subtle :p
03:10 <kamp> and tiny text
03:11 <spidey> mazuffer made the second one and i edited it
03:11 <spidey> kamp, does not
03:11 <ghableska> Lorem ipsum!
03:11 <spidey> it's far from it..
03:11 <ghableska> #wikipedia "lorem ipsum"
03:11 <armabot> ghableska: Search took 0.35 seconds: Lorem ipsum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorem_ipsum>; Template: Lorem ipsum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Lorem_ipsum>; Template: Lorem Ipsum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Lipsum>; Template: Lorem ipsum /doc - Wikipedia, the free (3 more messages)
03:11 <ghableska> heh
03:11 <kamp> does too
03:11 <spidey> not..
03:11 <kamp> too
03:11 <kamp> you're right
03:11 <kamp> it's a little worse
03:11 <spidey> ok
03:11 <spidey> so where's the 3 columns at?
03:11 <kamp> don't put the nav at the bottom
03:11 <spidey> :O
03:11 <kamp> makes no sense
03:12 <spidey> shush you
03:12 <spidey> !
03:12 <kamp> a nav that you have to scroll down to see is about a million times worse than two redundant nav bars
03:12 <kamp> i do like the background though
03:12 * ghableska kicks spidey in the shins
03:12 <spidey> ..
03:12 <spidey> why do you have to scroll down?
03:12 <spidey> i see it fine
03:12 <kamp> oh
03:12 <kamp> so your site will stick with that design
03:12 <kamp> never grow
03:12 <spidey> unless you're on a 600x res
03:12 <kamp> and always say lorem ipsum
03:13 <kamp> admirable
03:13 <spidey> then you'll have to scroll anyways
03:13 <_Sticky_> naa you need to do some scripting so that the navigation bar flys around...requires some skill to navigate the site
03:13 <spidey> kamp, it won't fill that whole page, no
03:13 <kamp> well all right
03:13 <kamp> i still think it should be nearer the top or the side
03:13 <kamp> maybe fixed position :) if you're brave
03:13 <kamp> fixed is always somewhat strange to see
03:13 <spidey> http://www.widgetry.org/fallen_angel/design1.htm
03:14 <spidey> http://mazuffer.com/temp/design1/
03:14 <spidey> also those 2
03:14 <kamp> what's widgetry?
03:14 <spidey> dunno
03:14 <kamp> ah
03:14 <spidey> burns edited that one
03:15 <kamp> his is already ten times better
03:15 <kamp> seeing as the nav is on the side :)
03:15 <spidey> position of the nav is irrelivant
03:15 <kamp> irrelevant
03:15 <spidey> ...
03:15 <kamp> i guess, if it's not getting any bigger
03:15 <kamp> still, i say better safe than sorry
03:16 <spidey> doesn't matter anyways
03:16 <spidey> index will choose a layout out of those 3
03:16 <spidey> and use it
03:16 <kamp> index?
03:16 <spidey> index.php
03:16 <kamp> ah
03:16 <kamp> randomly?
03:16 <spidey> like i said , it's not even close to done :P
03:16 <spidey> kamp, yea
03:16 <kamp> that's neat
03:17 <spidey> dunno how i'ma do it yet :P
03:17 * spidey sucks at php
03:17 <kamp> hey, even sucking at php is better than where i'm at with it
03:17 <ghableska> #weather 50266
03:17 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 34.0°F (8:16 PM CST on March 06, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 24.8°F. Windchill: 30.2°F. Pressure: 29.17 in 987.7 hPa.
03:17 <kamp> #weather 32608\
03:17 <armabot> kamp: The current temperature in Stillwind Subdivision, Gainesville, Florida is 56.7°F (9:17 PM EST on March 06, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 37.4°F. Pressure: 30.35 in 1027.7 hPa.
03:17 <spidey> speaking of which, i gotta make a webpanel for editing the tron server :(
03:17 <kamp> 56
03:17 <kamp> :(
03:17 <kamp> cold
03:18 <ghableska> ...
03:18 <kamp> hahaha
03:18 <ghableska> you're spoiled :p
03:18 <spidey> #weather 38256
03:18 <kamp> no
03:18 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 44.6°F (8:18 PM CST on March 06, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 32.0°F. Pressure: 30.24 in 1023.9 hPa.
03:18 <kamp> i'm normal
03:18 <spidey> you're abnormal
03:18 <ghableska> spidey, you cold?
03:18 <spidey> :O
03:18 <spidey> ghableska, we ran out of gas yesterday!
03:18 <spidey> can't get none till next week >.<
03:19 <ghableska> take the heat sink out of your computer(s) :p
03:19 <spidey> haha
03:19 <spidey> p2 doesn't have a heatsink
03:19 <kamp> `man
03:19 <kamp> you guys live too far north
03:19 <kamp> tennessee, huh
03:19 <spidey> ..
03:19 <spidey> yes
03:19 <kamp> college sports fan?
03:19 <ghableska> tennessee is far south
03:19 <spidey> not really
03:19 <kamp> ah too bad
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03:20 <kamp> i hate missing opportnities to gloat over sec rivals though
03:20 <kamp> especially UT
03:21 <spidey> lol
03:21 <kamp> well i'll do a little regardless
03:21 <kamp> you can't spell citrus without UT :)
03:21 <kamp> that's a classic
03:21 <ghableska> uhh
03:21 <ghableska> UT = ...?
03:21 <kamp> what, ghab
03:21 <kamp> University of Tennessee
03:22 <ghableska> oh :p
03:22 <kamp> i'm from the University of Florida
03:22 <kamp> pretty good rivalry
03:22 <ghableska> heh
03:22 <kamp> though i mean
03:22 <kamp> their greatest qb never managed to beat the Gators
03:22 <kamp> i understand though
03:22 <kamp> we're a lot better
03:23 <ghableska> #whoami
03:23 <armabot> ghableska: ghableska
03:23 <ghableska> :D
03:23 <_Sticky_> guess they are talking in some yankey jibberish
03:23 <kamp> #whoami
03:23 <armabot> kamp: I don't recognize you.
03:23 <kamp> :(
03:23 <kamp> well whatever
03:23 <ghableska> register with armabot :p
03:23 <kamp> i don't recognize you either
03:23 <kamp> no
03:23 <kamp> i hate it now
03:23 <_Sticky_> #whoareyou
03:23 <ghableska> #kill armabot
03:23 <armabot> armabot will die on Thu Nov 2 13:15:36 1995 due to being stabbed in the eye by wejp_.
03:23 <kamp> ow
03:24 <kamp> #kill ghableska
03:24 <armabot> ghableska will die on Sat Jul 30 05:13:08 1983 due to being stabbed in the eye by mkzelda.
03:24 <kamp> #kill self
03:24 <armabot> self will die on Fri Jun 4 22:52:18 1999 due to being stabbed in the eye by mkzelda.
03:24 <kamp> #kill hip hop
03:24 <armabot> hip hop will die on Sun Feb 5 12:39:09 2012 due to being stabbed in the eye by wejp_.
03:24 <kamp> it's wejp!
03:24 <ghableska> wejp_'s been productive...
03:24 <kamp> heh
03:25 <kamp> killed arma, and killed hiphop
03:25 <ghableska> #kill kamp
03:25 <armabot> kamp will die on Fri Aug 23 10:51:35 1991 due to being stabbed in the eye by Vanhayes.
03:25 <ghableska> :d
03:25 <_Sticky_> #kill all
03:25 <armabot> all will die on Sun Nov 26 19:30:49 2006 due to being stabbed in the eye by Lucifer_arma.
03:25 <ghableska> hmm
03:25 <_Sticky_> #kill everyone
03:25 <armabot> everyone will die on Tue Jul 8 02:14:38 2008 due to being stabbed in the eye by [dlh].
03:25 <kamp> nice choice
03:25 <kamp> Lucifer's goin to kill everyone
03:26 * ghableska isn't surprised
03:26 <kamp> some sunday televangelist is watchin this sayin, yep...
03:26 <_Sticky_> #kill televangelists
03:26 <armabot> televangelists will die on Fri Nov 25 16:46:51 1988 due to being stabbed in the eye by Lucifer_arma.
03:26 <ghableska> :D
03:26 <kamp> lol
03:27 <kamp> #register
03:27 <armabot> kamp: Error: That operation cannot be done in a channel.
03:27 <kamp> blah
03:27 <ghableska> /msg armabot register kamp thisismypassword
03:27 <kamp> and then
03:27 <kamp> login?
03:27 <ghableska> /msg armabot identify ghableska thisismypassword
03:28 <ghableska> err
03:28 <ghableska> *kamp
03:28 <kamp> ghab!
03:28 <kamp> that's not your password :P
03:28 <ghableska> :p
03:28 <kamp> #whoami
03:28 <armabot> kamp: kamp
03:29 <ghableska> #whois kamp
03:29 <kamp> #whois kamp
03:29 <kamp> ...
03:29 <ghableska> heh
03:29 <kamp> it's /whois, no?
03:29 <kamp> har
03:29 <ghableska> /whoami doesn't do anything
03:29 <kamp> lol
03:29 <kamp> just whois yourself
03:30 * ghableska yawns
03:31 * kamp studies
03:31 * ghableska does the same
03:32 * _Sticky_ sleeps
03:32 * kamp never does
03:32 <kamp> never
03:32 * kamp is lying
03:32 <ghableska> o_O
03:33 * kamp kamp never lies
03:33 <kamp> :)
03:33 <kamp> forget about it
03:34 * kamp wants a money clip
03:34 <kamp> i'm getting sick of carrying all this stuff around
03:35 <ghableska> you can give some to me...
03:35 <kamp> not that
03:35 <kamp> plastic
03:35 <kamp> i have a whole bunch of like membership this and that cards i don't need in my wallet
03:35 <ghableska> ah
03:36 <kamp> man
03:36 <kamp> i want to get two money clips
03:37 <kamp> one for the car, and one for actual use
03:37 <kamp> car one holds all the registration and insurances
03:37 <kamp> actual use holds money, one card, one id, and my health insurance info
03:37 <kamp> sounds good to me
03:38 <kamp> i need to remember to go to tfcu during spring break
03:38 <kamp> and find out how much money i have with them
03:39 <kamp> getting personally organized sucks
03:39 <_Sticky_> #night
03:39 <armabot> Good night _Sticky_!
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04:10 <kamp> hey joe
04:10 <DrJoeTron> hey
04:10 <kamp> what's up?
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04:10 <ghableska> heh
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04:10 <kamp> haha
04:10 <kamp> welcome back
04:10 <DrJoeTron> oh...just pressing the wrong buttons
04:10 <kamp> it's a skill
04:10 <DrJoeTron> more like a hobby
04:10 <DrJoeTron> do the cage and or tub show up?
04:10 <DrJoeTron> preferrably both?
04:10 <DrJoeTron> i can never see
04:11 <kamp> the tub shows
04:11 <DrJoeTron> its really annoying
04:11 <DrJoeTron> cage?
04:11 <kamp> no idae
04:11 <DrJoeTron> is it pokin its head?
04:11 <DrJoeTron> yeah...i had this problem last time
04:11 <DrJoeTron> either one or the other shows
04:11 <DrJoeTron> never both
04:11 <DrJoeTron> sometimes both
04:14 <kamp> no idae
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04:21 <DrJoeTron> bbl
04:21 <kamp> kk
04:23 <ghableska> http://slashdot.org/articles/07/03/06/1740234.shtml
04:23 <ghableska> hahaha
04:27 <kamp> lol
04:27 <kamp> not bad ms
04:27 <kamp> not bad
04:38 <Lucifer_arma> aha
04:39 <Lucifer_arma> I figured out the ping problem
04:39 <Lucifer_arma> every team should declare their home, which will be a server
04:39 <Lucifer_arma> during the regular season, and probably during the playoffs, each team plays each other team TWICE, once at each home
04:40 <ghableska> hmm
04:40 <kamp> hi luci
04:40 <Lucifer_arma> hi kamp (hi there!)
04:41 <kamp> saw your ctf strategy thing on the forums
04:41 <kamp> had to correct it
04:43 <Lucifer_arma> is that what you were doing? I read it as more bad advice from kamp.
04:43 <kamp> it's very good advice
04:43 <kamp> not lying about those stats!
04:43 <kamp> 90% of the time it works every time
04:43 <Lucifer_arma> so I should just run off to the corner and hide while kamp pwns the other team for me?
04:45 <kamp> well
04:45 <kamp> if you can stay in a corner without dying, sure
04:45 <kamp> i mean, you can do what you want
04:45 <kamp> play spades
04:45 <kamp> whatever
04:45 <Lucifer_arma> crank one out?
04:45 <kamp> as long as i'm alive, it's all good
04:45 <Lucifer_arma> "Oh baby, oh baby, kamp is so awesome"
04:45 <kamp> whatever tickles your pickle
04:46 <kamp> anyway
04:46 <kamp> what's new man?
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04:47 <Lucifer_arma> looking for a job, know anybody looking for a programmer?
04:47 <kamp> a couple yea
04:48 <kamp> 352 media group
04:48 <kamp> web programming
04:48 <kamp> and escape media group
04:48 <kamp> both here in gainesville though
04:48 <kamp> you're still in texas right?
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04:48 <kamp> i don't know them personally though
04:48 <Your_mom_arma> hey GodTodd
04:49 <GodTodd> hey mom
04:49 <Your_mom_arma> Lucifer_arma: the away/home game idea sounds good
04:49 <kamp> slashdot's layout is odd
04:49 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I'm in austin
04:49 <kamp> i was just going through it in opera
04:49 <Lucifer_arma> and the work needs to be either in austin, or telecommuting, since I"m in school and can't move
04:49 <kamp> has a whole bunch of odd blank spaces in it...
04:49 <kamp> dunno
04:49 <kamp> shoot them an e-mail
04:50 <kamp> i doubt it'd work for either one, though
04:50 <kamp> you might like escape media group though
04:50 <kamp> they're way too new for comfort
04:50 <kamp> but the product they're trying to put out is this thing called grooveshark
04:50 <kamp> some new community sharing music site
04:51 <kamp> you know... the music aspect
04:54 <Lucifer_arma> do you know them? Or am I just swimming with the sharks sending an email? ;)
04:55 <kamp> swimming with the sharks
04:55 <kamp> seems like a pretty stand-up group of people though
04:55 * Lucifer_arma is going "at large" for work, but he's also trying to get someone who already has an in to a job if he can :)
04:55 <kamp> and of course, they're gators, so they've got to be cool
04:55 <kamp> :)
04:55 <kamp> yea, i know what you mean, though. I can't help you much man
04:58 <kamp> i mean, that's how i got my current job as a student assistant
04:58 <kamp> did you look at the depts at your school?
05:05 <Lucifer_arma> hit up my math teacher
05:05 <kamp> not enough
05:06 <kamp> if your school has like a computer help thing going on, check them out
05:06 <kamp> personally, i'm working at the school's career resource center, the it dept
05:06 <kamp> check it out http://exitmundi.nl/Maya.htm
05:15 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.net/forums.php happy now kamp -_-
05:15 <kamp> i am
05:15 <kamp> i like it
05:16 <kamp> i wasn't trying to be mean about the other ones man
05:16 <spidey> lol
05:16 <kamp> it's just that a nav bar on the bottom makes no sense
05:16 <kamp> maybe like a teeny tiny auxiliary nav bar, in case your navbar isn't fixed and the user's at the bottom of the page
05:17 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, need a little quick-nav-bar at the bottom
05:17 <Lucifer_arma> but primary navigation should be at the top or one of the sides
05:18 <spidey> well
05:18 <spidey> hoto "home"
05:18 <spidey> goto*
05:18 <spidey> that's the main site, i'ma change the index nav bar at the top to something else
05:18 <spidey> just can't figure out what
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> make it look like my penis
05:18 <kamp> for the love of god, spidey
05:18 <kamp> it's bear
05:18 <kamp> bear with us
05:18 <kamp> not bare with us
05:18 <spidey> but your penis looks gay
05:19 <spidey> kamp, we know...we know i can't type for shit
05:19 <spidey> old news
05:19 <kamp> just stare down the keyboard
05:19 <kamp> and type with one finger
05:19 <kamp> less mistakes
05:19 <spidey> can't
05:19 <kamp> :)
05:19 <spidey> it's dark
05:19 <kamp> get this keyboard i saw once
05:19 <kamp> it's like a little light stand, and it actually shines out the keyboard onto a flat surface
05:19 <kamp> then you tap it out on your desk, and it reads where your fingers are
05:20 <kamp> neat thing, saw it once, never saw it again
05:20 <spidey> o.o
05:25 <kamp> oh hey luci, do you know anything about how the forums generate the server list near the bottom?
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> yes
05:26 <kamp> is there a server-friendly way to do it? i remember the armabell fiasco, with people making lag spikes left and right
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> yes
05:26 <kamp> where should I look to see?
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> armaspy advanced, I think
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlpwned did something similar
05:27 <kamp> ah
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> it's only in svn, afaik, and it only works in kde
05:27 <kamp> ah well, i'm just looking to make a similar widget for Opera
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm
05:28 <DrJoeTron> ko
05:28 <kamp> personally, i was thinking of using the page it looked like was linked to from the main page
05:28 <kamp> that was a hell of an awkward sentence
05:28 <kamp> but that page doesn't really exist
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> yay, my machine is ready for DST
05:29 <kamp> now that i think of it
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> talk to wrtlpwned
05:29 <kamp> i haven't done anything for my machine
05:29 <kamp> all right
05:29 <kamp> i guess it's going to asplode on sunday
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> slashdot ran an article, so I just checked my laptop
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> now to check my server
05:30 <kamp> i saw the article
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> ooo, pwned
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> my server still thinks it's 2006 for DST
05:30 <[dlh]> kamp: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/serverxml.php?stripcolors — I parse this and create http://generalconsumption.org/armagetronad/browser/
05:31 <kamp> cool
05:31 <kamp> thanks
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> [dlh]: that was the bit of info I was sending him to wrtlpwned for :)
05:32 <kamp> we have way too many clans
05:32 <[dlh]> Apple pushed out that DST patch a long time ago…
05:33 <kamp> saw some parodies of the get a mac commercials today
05:33 <kamp> probably the best one was "apple. gay."
05:33 <Lucifer_arma> new item on my list for spring break: get my server off worthless Gentoo
05:33 <kamp> quick, short, and to the point
05:33 <Lucifer_arma> why didn't they say "apple. nigger."?
05:33 <Your_mom_arma> kamp: http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/8193/
05:34 <kamp> oh yea
05:34 <kamp> that was it
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05:34 <kamp> wtg mom
05:34 <epsy> hi
05:34 <kamp> lucifer, i have no idea
05:34 <kamp> apple. gay. had more context
05:34 <kamp> seeing as the whole commercial involved a gay guy
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> why not use a black guy?
05:35 <kamp> who knows
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> oh, right, bigotry is ok when it's about gay people, but not when it's about black people
05:35 <kamp> ask the people that made it
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> speaking of bigotry, have I mentioned how much I hate Gentoo lately?
05:36 <kamp> you did call it worthless
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> 125 packages are updating right now, and I can only *hope* it'll have the DST fix
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> that's not even counting what the update is going to break. Every update breaks something. :/
05:37 <kamp> well
05:37 <kamp> good luck
05:37 <kamp> i'm going to go back to studying
05:37 <kamp> big ole test tomorrow
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> have fun
05:37 <kamp> bah
05:37 <kamp> chemistry
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> I'm going back to working out this fortress league thingee :)
05:37 <kamp> the letters f-u-n aren't even present in chemistry
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> no, but s-h-i-t-r-y are
05:37 <kamp> fortress league?
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, you didn't notice it when you bumped all those old threads on the forums?
05:38 <kamp> i saw some things about it
05:38 <kamp> hey, i haven't been on those forums in a long time
05:38 <GodTodd> chemistry sucks donkey balls
05:38 <kamp> so long i had to reactivate my account
05:38 <kamp> it was weird
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> hey kamp, I've always wanted to ask you something
05:38 <kamp> shoot
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> if you went camping, and you woke up with semen in your butthole, would you tell anyone
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> ?
05:39 <kamp> as far as odd questions go, that's tops
05:39 <kamp> depends on whether i was with anyone
05:39 <kamp> if i'm alone, hell yea
05:39 <GodTodd> not really odd....old, yes ;)
05:39 <kamp> tell the police, there's a rapist on the loose
05:40 <kamp> if i'm with someone yea, and there'd probably be some fists thrown to boot
05:40 * Lucifer_arma marks kamp off his list of people to go camping with
05:40 <kamp> heh
05:40 <kamp> i don't go camping either way
05:40 * kamp is a city kid
05:41 <kamp> heh
05:41 <kamp> what was the point of that question?
05:42 <GodTodd> if you said no, he'd ask if you wanna go camping
05:42 <kamp> ah
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, it's a pretty old joke
05:42 <kamp> never heard it
05:42 <kamp> or maybe i did and forgot
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> I got written up at a job one time for telling that joke in front of a girl who'd actually been raped while camping
05:43 <kamp> ...
05:43 <kamp> wow
05:43 <kamp> that's bad luck
05:43 <GodTodd> thing is...you'd have to have a pretty loose asshole in the first place in order for the sex to not wake you up....i assume anyway
05:43 <GodTodd> heh
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> lesson learned? You're responsible for other people's issues, even if you don't know about them!
05:43 <kamp> yea, god, that struck me too
05:43 <kamp> heh
05:43 <kamp> i usually call people out on irc by the first couple letters... more like the first morpheme of their name
05:43 <kamp> something wrong with calling godtodd god though
05:44 <kamp> it's awkward
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> call him god<tab> then
05:44 * GodTodd won't argue with being called god ;)
05:44 <kamp> this irc client is pretty dumb
05:44 <kamp> no tab completion as far as i can tell
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> you using the one luke-jr_ (hi there!) wrote?
05:44 <kamp> did he write bersirc?
05:44 <GodTodd> yeah...i just call Lucifer_arma luc<tab>
05:45 <luke-jr_> no
05:45 <kamp> then no
05:45 <luke-jr_> I'd write an XMPP client first
05:45 <luke-jr_> you should know that, Lucifer_arma
05:45 <kamp> hang on, i'm going to wrestly opera chat
05:45 * Lucifer_arma is considering installing an xmpp/irc gateway for the fortress league
05:45 <kamp> maybe it'll work this time
05:45 <Lucifer_arma> since so many arma users seem to be using a multi-protocol IM client...
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05:46 <kamp> there
05:46 <kamp> Lucifer_arma:
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> now say god<tab>
05:46 <kamp> yea, this one has tab completion
05:46 <kamp> GodTodd: <--this phrase brought to you by the key <tab>
05:46 <DrJoeTron> imma city kid
05:46 <kamp> yea
05:46 <DrJoeTron> i go campin every chance i get
05:46 * GodTodd watches all the pretty red text. :)
05:46 <GodTodd> joe, you're a city slut
05:47 <kamp> but you're a northern city kid
05:47 <GodTodd> that don't count
05:47 <GodTodd> :P
05:47 <kamp> you guys have like
05:47 <DrJoeTron> i was a boyscout :D
05:47 <kamp> cabin fever
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> enjoy it while you can, GodDamn
05:47 <kamp> and all sorts of other junk
05:47 <kamp> that happens when you can't go outsie for months at a time
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> who says they can't go outside for months at a time?
05:47 <kamp> me
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> it's not their fault they wuss out over the weather
05:48 <kamp> because i would avoid going outside when it dips under forty
05:48 <kamp> and under freezing, fuck that
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> after my wife started smoking again, she wussed out and smoked a cigarette in the garage when it was 50 degrees outside
05:48 <Your_mom_arma> haha
05:48 <GodTodd> so whose fault is it that joe's a wuss?
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> boy was she in trouble. I still had to smoke outside when it was near 0 degrees!
05:48 <kamp> heh
05:48 <kamp> by the way
05:48 <kamp> smoking's pretty bad for you
05:48 <GodTodd> is it?
05:48 <kamp> just had to put that out there
05:48 <GodTodd> really?
05:48 <GodTodd> ;)
05:49 <kamp> yea dude
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> so's living in Florida, kamp
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> so is living in Florida
05:49 <kamp> nah
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> yep
05:49 <Your_mom_arma> near 0 degrees f in texas?
05:49 <GodTodd> it happens
05:49 <kamp> living in florida is probably the best thing to happen to retired people
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> Your_mom_arma: it was in Seattle
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> she straightened out her act when I pointed out that minor fact.
05:49 <kamp> tomorrow night is going to be pretty fun
05:49 * GodTodd watches kamp play shuffleboard before the big bingo tourny
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> so now when she wusses out over the weather, she just smokes less
05:50 <kamp> we're highjacking one of the rooms in the engineering building and playing super smash brothers with the projector
05:50 <kamp> nothing like a wall full of kirby cooking mario
05:50 <kamp> GodTodd: bingo!
05:50 <GodTodd> :D
05:50 <DrJoeTron> sweet
05:50 <Lucifer_arma> trust a damn liberal arts kid to hijack a perfectly good engineering room for video games
05:50 <DrJoeTron> just banned 3 people from shrunk
05:50 <kamp> i'm terrible at shuffleboard
05:51 <kamp> liberal arts kid?! i'm a engineer
05:51 <DrJoeTron> kamp is a FAG
05:51 <DrJoeTron> fine arts guy! :D
05:51 <kamp> har har har
05:51 <DrJoeTron> hurrr
05:51 <kamp> next semester
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> it's true, kamp loves performing
05:51 <kamp> when i go back into my ethnomusicology minor
05:52 <kamp> then i'll be a fine arts guy
05:52 <DrJoeTron> im no wuss
05:52 <DrJoeTron> i eat lightning and shit thunder
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> so you eat faster than you shit?
05:52 <kamp> those are some loud farts then
05:52 <GodTodd> ethnomusicology............gotta love acadamia :)
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> is that a problem for you?
05:52 <DrJoeTron> can you eat lightning?
05:52 <DrJoeTron> i doubt it
05:52 <kamp> haha
05:52 <kamp> i tried once
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> ethnomusicology is the study of black people music, isn't it?
05:52 <kamp> never got the taste for it
05:52 <kamp> no
05:53 <DrJoeTron> i yeah
05:53 <hang3r> Anyone here watch battle star galactica?
05:53 <DrJoeTron> i keep a tesla coil for snacking
05:53 <kamp> it's the study of music and ethnicity, from a cultural anthropological perspective
05:53 * kamp takes a bow for that wonderful definition
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> hang3r: I used to watch it, when I was like 7
05:53 <kamp> hang3r: that show is still on?
05:53 <kamp> i used to watch commercials for it
05:53 <GodTodd> so....old black people music
05:53 <GodTodd> heh
05:53 <kamp> and then switch back to star trek
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> dead, old black people music
05:54 <hang3r> Nah, the old BSG is dead, the new remake of the series is quite good
05:54 <kamp> well in the first class for the minor, we basically stuck to african music and south american music
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> hang3r: when I want to get my brain sucked out, I put my vacuum hose up to my ear
05:54 <kamp> oh, well guatemala is in central america, so central america also
05:54 <hang3r> Lucifer_arma, lmao
05:54 <kamp> dipped into hip hop and newer latin musics as well
05:55 <GodTodd> wtf are they remaking all these old scifi series?
05:55 <kamp> like salsa and the such
05:55 <kamp> GodTodd: to make money
05:55 <kamp> duh!
05:55 <GodTodd> no excuse
05:55 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: they ran out of mediocre ideas and had to recycle the old mediocre ideas they used to have
05:55 <kamp> have you noticed all the movies that have become tv shows?
05:55 <Lucifer_arma> er, that's not terribly new...
05:56 <kamp> not like that
05:56 <Lucifer_arma> what I want to see is another miniseries on the scale of V
05:56 <kamp> i mean movies that were never made, and gotconverted to tv shows
05:56 <kamp> like daybreak, or prison break, or 24
05:56 <Lucifer_arma> kamp: like Babylon 5?
05:56 <kamp> these are all obviously movies in a past life
05:56 * Lucifer_arma remembers watching the Babylon 5 pilot years before it finally sold
05:56 <kamp> but got split up, complicated a bit, and are now tv shows
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> kamp: I disagree, I think they've gone to more serial programming in fiction to counter the episodic nature of reality tv
05:57 <GodTodd> i think screenwriters as a whole have pretty much run out of 'artistic vision' and are just marketers with a keyboard now
05:57 <kamp> ah well
05:57 <kamp> i want a winning lottery ticket
05:57 <kamp> the jackpot's 3 million right now
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> I'll sell you one
05:57 <GodTodd> only 3 million?
05:58 <Lucifer_arma> guaranteed to win
05:58 <kamp> yea, i guess someone won it recently
05:58 <kamp> whatever
05:58 <kamp> 3 million is still a lot
05:58 <Lucifer_arma> not as much as it used to be, I'm afriad
05:58 <GodTodd> ours here is in the hundreds of millions afaik (that is, that i heard before the drawing tonight) ;)
05:58 <kamp> hundreds of millions?!
05:58 <GodTodd> yep
05:59 <GodTodd> apparently been growing for a while
05:59 <kamp> i don't think the florida lotto's ever gotten higher than 40 or 50 mil
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> hopefully someone will win it before our stupid governor manages to sell it off
05:59 <GodTodd> haha
05:59 <kamp> GodTodd: where do you live?
05:59 <GodTodd> dallas
05:59 <kamp> damn
05:59 <kamp> texas: state of the unluckiest people
05:59 <kamp> ever
05:59 <kamp> hundreds of millions
05:59 <GodTodd> when i lived in NE, i saw it hit 300 mil or so twice
05:59 <kamp> that's ridiculous
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> nah, I think they're gaming to lottery to drive up the selling price
05:59 <kamp> anyway
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> our stupid governor wants to sell the lottery
05:59 <kamp> any winning lotto ticket would be nice
05:59 <kamp> to who?
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> I'll give you a winner
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> I can't guarantee which drawing it will win, or even which century the drawing will take place...
06:00 <kamp> ...
06:00 <kamp> thanks
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> kamp: he wants to sell it to one of his corporate buddies, of course
06:00 <kamp> doesn't your lotto fund something or other though?
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> just like he's selling off our highways
06:00 <GodTodd> it helps fund education
06:00 <GodTodd> for now
06:00 <kamp> personally, i don't see myself as spending money right now, on lotto tickets, since i know it's coming directly back to me
06:01 <kamp> i'm on the scholly that the lotto funds
06:01 <DrJoeTron> i bought some lotto tickets
06:01 <DrJoeTron> and did the scratch and win
06:01 <DrJoeTron> im not a lucky guy
06:01 <kamp> did you scratch?
06:01 <kamp> did you win?
06:01 <kamp> i only know one person who won off a scratch and win
06:01 <DrJoeTron> i won dissapointment
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> I once went into a 7-11, stood in front of the counter, scratched my armpit really rigorously, then asked "Did I win?"
06:02 <kamp> and they won just enouhg money to buy a couple more scratch and wins
06:02 <Lucifer_arma> the girl there was not amused
06:02 <kamp> so they did, and they didn't win
06:02 <kamp> oh well
06:02 <Lucifer_arma> my wife won $1300 from a drawing one time
06:02 <GodTodd> i won a couple hundred with 5 dollars in scratchers once
06:02 <Lucifer_arma> she matched like 3 numbers
06:02 <kamp> neat
06:02 <kamp> my dad's won a couple, like 5 dollars here, 10 there
06:02 <kamp> not bad
06:03 <GodTodd> also won 350$ with 3$ at a casino once
06:03 <kamp> heh
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> I wrote a pascal program to analyze lottery numbers, and she read off all the lottery numbers for all time to me
06:03 <kamp> lucky bastid
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> the first day we finished, she bought that winning lottery ticket. It was weirder than shit.
06:03 <kamp> why analyze all those numbers?
06:03 * GodTodd should gamble more :/
06:03 <GodTodd> heh
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> looking for patterns
06:04 <kamp> those ping pong bals
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> wanted to see the most recurring groups of numbers, and see how many there were
06:04 <kamp> some sure are heavier :)
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> then we were going to buy up all the tickets
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> but the results of the analysis confirmed that the numbers really are random
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> so we gave up
06:04 <kamp> lol
06:04 <kamp> GodTodd: you should
06:05 <kamp> and split the revenue with me
06:05 <GodTodd> Mega Millions Jackpot For Tonight Now At $370 MILLION
06:05 <GodTodd> (Cash Value: $221.1 Million)
06:05 <kamp> damn
06:05 <GodTodd> that's from the tx lottery's site
06:05 <kamp> 221.1 mil
06:05 <kamp> that's a lot of swag
06:06 <kamp> florida lotto 3 mil
06:06 <kamp> mega money jackpot 2mil
06:06 <GodTodd> actually...i'd almost be tempted to take the annuity
06:06 <GodTodd> depends on how the tax shit worked out i suppose
06:07 <GodTodd> that'd be 10-15 mil or so a year...i could scrape by on that
06:07 <kamp> oh the difference between getting the huge sum all at once
06:07 <kamp> and getting pieces of it
06:07 <GodTodd> yeah
06:07 <kamp> yea the pieces are definitely a lot better
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> #g 19!
06:07 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 19 ! = 1.216451 * 10^(17)
06:07 <GodTodd> #g 42!
06:07 <armabot> GodTodd: 42 ! = 1.40500612 * 10^(51)
06:07 <kamp> in my case, it'd be like a huge scholly
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> duh
06:08 <kamp> ah
06:08 <kamp> i want money
06:08 <GodTodd> hell...the lotto texas jp is at 48 mil
06:09 <GodTodd> you'd think that the lottery would have more funding in FL with all them old bastards
06:09 <kamp> they do it big in texas
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> #g 2^19
06:09 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 2^19 = 524,288
06:09 <kamp> nah
06:09 <kamp> they're already retired
06:09 <kamp> what do they need lotto fo?
06:09 <GodTodd> bingo on steroids?
06:09 <GodTodd> :D
06:09 <kamp> haha
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> 2n-2
06:09 <kamp> the retirement communities, though, i've honestly never been
06:10 <kamp> i hear some horror stories from around the state
06:10 <kamp> but in miami, they're rare, at least inside it
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> 2n^2-2n
06:10 <GodTodd> give them lotto tickets where they have to punch out chads then watch the carnage after the drawing ;)
06:10 <kamp> and where i'm at now, it's a college town, so not a lot of old people
06:10 <kamp> haha
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> 2n(n-1)
06:10 <kamp> I demand a reco---zzzzz
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> ok, is that it?
06:10 <GodTodd> is what what?
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> the number of games in the regular season is the number of teams times the number of games each team plays?
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> there's n teams
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> each team plays each other twice
06:11 <kamp> that sucks
06:11 <DrJoeTron> http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2277493&perpage=40&pagenumber=1#post321269650 yaay my friend used the avtatar i made him ":D
06:11 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: you know, IRC gateways are pretty common; even I have one on dashjr.org
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> so each team plays n-1 games, right? Times 2, though, so 2(n-1)
06:11 <kamp> if you get more than 250k in prizes
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> then there's n teams, so 2n(n-1)
06:11 <kamp> you need to go all the way to tallahassee to get your money
06:11 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: if guru3 sets the SRV records on armagetronad.net, I can easily host an XMPP server for us, including an IRC gateway
06:12 <luke-jr_> though... that might be a bad idea for me since it could get me banned from stuff
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> banned from stuff?
06:12 <luke-jr_> yeah
06:12 <luke-jr_> like FreeNode, if they join some other channel and violate the terms and such
06:13 * luke-jr_ notes FreeNode was planning for native XMPP access before lilo died
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> can't the gateway be configured to only join a few named channels?
06:13 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: hm, not sure
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> #g 40 * 19
06:13 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 40 * 19 = 760
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> #g 20 * 19
06:14 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 20 * 19 = 380
06:14 <GodTodd> yeah....2n(n-1) sounds right with test numbers
06:15 <kamp> before who died?
06:15 <Lucifer_arma> lilo
06:15 <kamp> who?
06:15 <Lucifer_arma> lilo
06:15 <GodTodd> freenode guy
06:15 <Lucifer_arma> died in a bicycle accident
06:16 <Lucifer_arma> so going with 20 teams, there's about 4 months available to run a season
06:16 <Lucifer_arma> er, wait
06:16 <Lucifer_arma> second week of september -> first week of december
06:16 <Lucifer_arma> how many weeks is that?
06:16 <kamp> damn
06:16 <kamp> i use my bike a lot
06:16 <kamp> i could die
06:17 <GodTodd> 12-13 i think
06:17 * Lucifer_arma decides to look at a calendar
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> this "doing it in my head" bs isn't working :)
06:18 <GodTodd> second week or second full week?
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06:18 <GodTodd> :P
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> 13-14, depending on how far to push into december
06:18 <luke-jr_> hrm
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> I'm trying to avoid that big american holiday at the beginning of september
06:18 <luke-jr_> no real way to ban XMPP users
06:19 <Lucifer_arma> so let's go with 14 and see what that looks like
06:19 <Lucifer_arma> for 20 teams...
06:19 <Lucifer_arma> #g 40*19/14
06:19 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: (40 * 19) / 14 = 54.2857143
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> so 54.285 games per week
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> altogether
06:20 <lukey0> ...
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> that's not bad, really. It's nearly 3 games per team
06:20 <lukey0> if we *do* have our own transport, let's be sure to have it put the FULL IM address for 'real name'
06:20 <GodTodd> 11 games a day with two days of rest would cover that
06:20 <lukey0> so we *can* ban bad idiots
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06:21 <Lucifer_arma> all I can say is the NFL pulls off a similar schedule, and seems to only play one or two games a week per team :)
06:21 <luke-jr_> NFL can pull people away from holidays
06:21 <luke-jr_> :p
06:21 <kamp> nfl doesn't have two games for each people and yea, they play during holidays
06:21 <GodTodd> one per week....rarely (but it does happen) 2 in a 7-10 day period
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> there are two important holidays I'm ignoring in there, but arma players tend to be available to play on those days anyway
06:22 <kamp> nfl... you play two games in division, one game against the rest
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> (canadian thanksgiving and usian thanksgiving)
06:22 <GodTodd> not even the rest
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> aha, thank you kamp
06:22 <GodTodd> they have a 16 game regular season for 31 teams
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> I don't think we'll have 20 teams though
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> we had 8 for the spoon, right?
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> so...
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> #g 16*7/14
06:23 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: (16 * 7) / 14 = 8
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> 8 games per week
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> haha
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> that's half of 16 :)
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> 7/14 == 1/2 :)
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06:24 <GodTodd> that's a fluke i think
06:25 <GodTodd> because it does the mult then the division
06:25 <kamp> the league you're looking at for inspriation is the english permiership
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> wtf is that?
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> polo?
06:25 <kamp> there, a team plays two games against every other team, then you get 3 pts for a W 1 for a tie, and none for a loss
06:25 <GodTodd> #g 32*7/14
06:25 <kamp> football
06:25 <armabot> GodTodd: (32 * 7) / 14 = 16
06:25 <kamp> the real one
06:25 <GodTodd> hrmm
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> soccer?
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> aka succor?
06:25 <kamp> yep
06:25 <kamp> nope
06:25 <kamp> soccer
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> #dict succor
06:26 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: wn: succor n : assistance in time of difficulty; "the contributions provided some relief for the victims" [syn: {relief}, {succour}, {ministration}] v : help in a difficult situation [syn: {succour}]; gcide: Succor \Suc"cor\, n. [OE. socours, sucurs, OF. sucurs, socors, secors, F. secours, L. succursus, fr. L. succurrere. See {Succor}, v. (5 more messages)
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> I guess that joke as a little too high-brow for this crowd!
06:26 <kamp> but that's by far the easiest kind of league to run
06:26 <GodTodd> #joke
06:26 <armabot> By royal decree, all humor has hereby been expunged from this channel. If you feel you absolutely *have* to be funny please find a channel where people are able to understand jokes.
06:26 <kamp> #kill joke
06:26 <armabot> joke will die on Wed Apr 18 22:44:57 2012 due to being stabbed in the eye by GodTodd.
06:26 <kamp> knew it
06:26 <GodTodd> :D
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: where did your 32 come from?
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> aren't we doing 2n(n-1) ?
06:27 <GodTodd> my head?
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> so 16 teams?
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> #g 32 * 15
06:27 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 32 * 15 = 480
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> #g 32 * 15/14
06:27 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: (32 * 15) / 14 = 34.2857143
06:27 <kamp> 480?
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> and it's fine if it groups it first
06:27 <kamp> 480 what?
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> kamp: total games
06:27 <kamp> oh wow
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> NOT total games per team
06:27 <kamp> i was going to say
06:28 <Your_mom_arma> luci http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regular_Season_%28NFL%29#Formula
06:28 <kamp> why don't you split them in half or something
06:28 * GodTodd agrees tho....you shouldn't look to the nfl for schedule inspiration unless you have divisions
06:28 <kamp> then pit the winners of each
06:28 <kamp> from there split them into upper tier and lower tier
06:28 <kamp> really the european soccer leagues are the easiest possible way
06:29 <Your_mom_arma> i agree with kamp with an ab division
06:29 <kamp> though there are no ties in tron
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> aha
06:29 <GodTodd> is it anything like world cup scheduling?
06:29 <Your_mom_arma> mabey even split divisions by timezones
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> we won't have divisions more than likely
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> well, the issue for divisions is number of teams
06:29 <kamp> GodTodd: only the group stage
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> if we get a spoon-sized league, then it might make sense to have two divisions
06:30 <kamp> think of it as one massive group
06:30 <Your_mom_arma> i would estimate less then 10 teams either way
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> less than 10 games per team?
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> or 10 games total?
06:30 <kamp> if you have 16 teams
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06:30 <kamp> make it like the world cup
06:30 <kamp> separate into four groups of four, have they play it out
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> isn't the world cup a knockout tournament?
06:31 <GodTodd> only after the group stage
06:31 <kamp> then you get four teams advance to one-off knockout rounds
06:31 <kamp> you even get a cool "Final Four" thing going on
06:31 <luke-jr_> ok
06:31 <luke-jr_> I hereby ban use of the word fluke
06:31 <luke-jr_> ok, thx
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> I was wanting to run more or less the same way the spoon ran, only with better organization :)
06:31 <Your_mom_arma> 10 teams with 9 or 18 games per team or less
06:31 <kamp> or bring the top two from each division, and have a round of eight, round of four, and that's that
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> fluke fluke flke
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> fluke
06:32 <kamp> the first decision you need to make, though, is how many teams will be in the league
06:32 <kamp> under 20 is manageable
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> 200
06:32 <kamp> ok
06:32 <Your_mom_arma> haha
06:32 <kamp> good luck with that
06:32 <GodTodd> luke-jr_:): what's wrong with the word fluke?
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> I don't think that's a decision I can just make
06:32 <kamp> i'll see you with a winning lottery ticket
06:32 <kamp> it is
06:32 <luke-jr_> GodTodd: it sets off my highlight
06:32 <kamp> just put a cap on it
06:32 <GodTodd> ahhh
06:32 <GodTodd> fluke
06:33 <GodTodd> fluke
06:33 <GodTodd> fluke
06:33 <GodTodd> fluke
06:33 <GodTodd> fluke
06:33 <GodTodd> fluke
06:33 <GodTodd> fluke
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> aha, but that won't decide how many there will actually be
06:33 <GodTodd> fluke
06:33 <luke-jr_> stfu
06:33 <GodTodd> fluke
06:33 <GodTodd> fluke
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> hi fluke-jr_
06:33 <GodTodd> fluke
06:33 <GodTodd> :D
06:33 <luke-jr_> or I'll need to exercise my power of regexp!@
06:33 <kamp> well
06:33 <kamp> find out how many teams want to join
06:33 <kamp> and then come out with an easily manageable number that's under the number of teams that want to join
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> what I think I need to do is determine the structure and pick one that looks good for 5-20 teams, if possible
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> and then work from there
06:33 <kamp> then say it's first come-first serve and viola, you've got it
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06:34 <Lucifer_arma> *voila
06:34 <kamp> i know
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> (at least you didn't do spidey's dumbass "walla")
06:34 <kamp> lol
06:34 <kamp> <-- speaks french fluently
06:34 <kamp> walla
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> kamp, how many teams do you think are going to sign up for this league?
06:34 <kamp> not bad
06:34 <kamp> how many show up for the spoon?
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> 8 signed up, 7 played
06:34 <kamp> heh
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> and the thing didn't finish
06:34 <kamp> then 10 tops
06:35 <kamp> and some dropouts along the course of the season
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> right
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06:35 <Lucifer_arma> so it might be worthwhile to setup playoffs based on 8 teams
06:35 <kamp> yea
06:35 <kamp> here
06:35 <Durka> hey luci :P
06:35 <Your_mom_arma> Lucifer_arma: are you going to set a max/min players per team in roster and in game
06:35 <kamp> set up an 8 team league
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> then figure 3 points for a season win, 1 for a loss, or something like that
06:35 * Durka volunteered o_O
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> Your_mom_arma: I'd like to. :) 5 max ingame, 10 max on the roster
06:35 <kamp> you don't get pts for a loss
06:35 <kamp> no sense in that
06:36 <kamp> make an 8 team league
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> well, we don't have ties, so we could just do 1 point for a win and 0 points for a loss
06:36 <kamp> play a round-robin league for seeding
06:36 <kamp> and then proceed to a playoof of 8
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> then sort by points for the playoffs, top 8 ranked teams go to the playoffs
06:36 <kamp> playoff*
06:36 <kamp> yea
06:36 <Durka> Lucifer_arma: 1 game a week is a huge commitment o_O
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> playoffs are outside the 14-week window
06:37 <kamp> well luci, instead a points system, just use the overall record of the team
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> for a league? no way!
06:37 <Your_mom_arma> months are four weeks
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> my son, who is only SIX, plays 1 game a week MINIMUM, with 2 practices
06:37 <kamp> it's just 13 weeks if you have 8 teams
06:38 <kamp> a game a week for each team, they have to play 7 other teams, so that 7 weeks and you wrap up league play
06:38 <kamp> seed them and start the playoffs, unless you want to stretch it out, they won't take more than 4 weeks
06:38 <kamp> and you've crowned a champ
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> er, you've missed a beat somewhere kamp
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> #g 16*7
06:39 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 16 * 7 = 112
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> 112 total games in the league play
06:39 <kamp> yea
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> it would be two games per week per team with no breaks to meet your schedule
06:39 <kamp> more than one game plays out a week, right?
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> of the total, yes
06:39 <kamp> nah
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> so figure the first week, at least 8 of the 112 ames will play
06:39 <kamp> you have teams 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
06:40 <kamp> 1 plays 2
06:40 <kamp> 1 play 3
06:40 <kamp> so on
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> 1 plays 2 again
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> 1 plays 3 again
06:40 <kamp> ohh, double games?
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> yes
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> to deal with the ping problem
06:40 <kamp> ah, well
06:40 <Your_mom_arma> away/home games
06:40 <kamp> there you go
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> so each team declares a home server
06:40 <kamp> oh ok
06:41 <kamp> do they also want home/away legs for the playoffs?
06:41 <hang3r> Whats this a new ladder/league?
06:41 <GodTodd> well now, see...it's this concept of 'fairness' that's screwing you ;)
06:41 <kamp> because then you're looking at a 26 week thing
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> and, since the total count of players you can put on the roster will be quite a bit higher than the total you can put in game, I hope to encourage teams not to restrict themselves
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> so you could have a european wing of your team, essentially
06:41 <kamp> GodTodd: that fairness thing...
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> haven't got to working out the playoffs yet, heh :)
06:41 <kamp> yea
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> still trying to size up the seed rounds :)
06:42 <kamp> well then yea, you have a 14-week league before the playoffs
06:42 <kamp> that's not bad
06:42 <Your_mom_arma> #ping
06:42 <armabot> pong
06:42 <kamp> the playoffs would make it run rather long
06:42 <kamp> no need to give all 8 teams a shot, though, just make it the top 4
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> playoffs will be ladle-style, hopefully
06:43 <kamp> there should be some penalty for not making it through the league round, after all
06:43 <Your_mom_arma> can anyone respond/see this?
06:43 <kamp> yep, mom
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> I saw it, Your_mom_arma (hi there!)
06:43 <GodTodd> mom? are you there?
06:43 <GodTodd> :D
06:43 <hang3r> #pung
06:44 <kamp> the league play is pretty simple if you just make it double games like that, and do seeding based on records
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> hang3r: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=14091
06:44 <kamp> then have ties resolved by head to head results
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> right
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> the two teams that both got 16 points play each other for the top slot
06:44 <kamp> in the case of ties, though, and in the playoffs, you likely need something to make sure there are no further ties
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> the game doesn't allow ties, so the playoffs should be fairly straightforward
06:45 <kamp> not that
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> best 2 out of 3, maybe have the championship best 4 of 7
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06:45 <kamp> in the case of a tie, you'd look at the head to head results for the season
06:45 <kamp> but say they split their games
06:45 <Your_mom_arm1> #ping
06:45 <armabot> pong
06:45 <kamp> then you look at the scores
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> aha, I get you
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> so not a new game, just look at the games that were played
06:45 <hang3r> Lucifer_arma, I remember the last one we were in, I ended up dropping out (RL shit was going on)... But I actually don't go much for fortress, I'd rather see a team based normal game ladder
06:45 <kamp> in that case you should make points scored at the away server worth 1.25 or 1.5
06:46 <kamp> yea
06:46 <kamp> no need to add in extra games
06:46 <kamp> you can use the same system in the playoffs
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06:47 <GodTodd> playoffs should be designed to not need tiebreakers
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06:47 <Lucifer_arma> playoffs I kinda want to do nearly like the ladle. I want single elimination, regular knockout thing
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> so you only play one game each time, and you're out as soon as you lose
06:47 <kamp> but then the home/away thing comes up again
06:47 <GodTodd> there you could reward the top teams with choice of home server
06:47 <kamp> true
06:47 <GodTodd> like home field in the nfl
06:47 <kamp> yea
06:47 <kamp> that makes sense
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> theoretically at the level where the home/away thing matters for fairness in the playoffs, the teams are of such quality that it doesn't matter
06:48 <GodTodd> the better you do in the reg season the better chance you have in the playoffs
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06:48 <GodTodd> true...but i'd give the reward anyway
06:48 <GodTodd> :D
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> it looks like kamp's volunteered to help :)
06:48 <kamp> sure man, i don't mind
06:48 <kamp> organizing is easy
06:48 <kamp> implementing is hard
06:49 <kamp> but yea dude, 8 team league is the most sensical
06:49 <kamp> of course, you can always apply it to less teams
06:49 <GodTodd> probably most likely too
06:49 <kamp> yea
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> we can probably stick with an 8 team schedule even up to 10 teams, I suspect
06:51 <Durka> xD
06:51 * GodTodd is using all of his football schedule knowledge :D
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> i.e. we don't need to add on 2 more weeks to do it
06:51 <kamp> they'll have to play a double week somewhere along the line
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> we could just have them not play all teams, the seeding for the playoffs will still be good
06:51 <kamp> or that
06:51 <Durka> http://durka.freehostia.com/tst3.php#brackets
06:51 <Durka> look at the brackets, atm _____ & ______ are the favorites xD
06:51 <kamp> you can always split them off into groups
06:52 <kamp> when you get 10 teams, split them in groups of five, have them play round robin, and get the top two from each group
06:52 <Lucifer_arma> yeah durka, that's what we're looking at for the playoffs :)
06:52 <Durka> :P
06:52 <Lucifer_arma> kamp: I'd have to see what the 10 teams were before doing that, I think
06:52 <Lucifer_arma> if it were 5 US and 5 american teams, I'd happily do that
06:52 <GodTodd> too bad it's not going to be more teams....you could get pretty lively with a thing like the little league world series
06:53 <kamp> haha
06:53 <kamp> 5 US and 5american, huh?
06:53 <Durka> theres only 1 mainly us players fort team
06:53 <Lucifer_arma> that way games within their divisions are pretty fair, and we can work out how to handle the playoffs when they meet each other
06:53 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, exactly, haha
06:53 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: the rest are european?
06:53 <Durka> ya
06:53 <Lucifer_arma> or the rest are pretty mixed?
06:53 <Durka> no
06:53 <kamp> well
06:53 <Durka> tf, ss, tm, ct, oops, |x|, sp
06:53 <Lucifer_arma> just try to keep in mind that people came out of the woodwork for spoon, and a lot of them went back into the woodwork, ironically
06:54 <kamp> you can ask a team to register as american or european before the league starts
06:54 <kamp> and see if some splitting is viable
06:54 <Lucifer_arma> kamp: I want the teams to self-organize. I'd like the league to make sense no matter how the players organize
06:54 <Durka> lobster mafia! <3vc3c.,<...,,,3,
06:54 <GodTodd> ask? demand it, man :)
06:54 <Lucifer_arma> I felt the TWC splitting up of players was extremely unnatural.
06:54 <kamp> >-;;,ccc3
06:54 <Durka> xD
06:54 <DrJoeTron> >-;;,ccc3
06:54 <Lucifer_arma> it forced the american team to be a bunch of people who hated each other
06:55 <kamp> heh
06:55 <kamp> well yea
06:55 <kamp> anyway
06:55 <Durka> ?
06:55 <Durka> heh i didnt play in it
06:55 <kamp> it's a possibility
06:55 <GodTodd> just have each team list the region of each player
06:55 <Durka> heh
06:55 <Durka> http://lod.bigreddesign.co.uk/twc/teams
06:55 <Durka> but i liked the signup form
06:55 <Durka> http://lod.bigreddesign.co.uk/twc/signup
06:56 <GodTodd> don't force them together...just see who *is* together
06:56 <Durka> but ppl could signup fake players and spam that thing
06:56 <kamp> GodTodd: that's too much work to go through the team's players
06:56 <kamp> imo
06:56 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: exactly what I'm saying :)
06:56 <Lucifer_arma> kamp: not really, we have to verify the rosters anyway
06:56 <kamp> ah
06:56 <Lucifer_arma> I don't want many rules, but Id kinda like the ones we do have strictly enforced :)
06:56 <kamp> true
06:57 <kamp> as for the logistics of the games themselves
06:57 <kamp> figure anything about that?
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> hey Durka (hi there!): are the WW servers yours, by any chance?
06:57 <kamp> like, how long before a team is forfeited
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> kamp: sure. I guess you didn't read my post, eh? :)
06:57 <kamp> nope
06:57 <kamp> i just jumped in the discussion here
06:57 <Durka> not exactly
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> game times will be set in stone when scheduled :)
06:57 <Durka> i admin them though
06:57 <Durka> ask manta to set u up one
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: who's are they?
06:58 <Lucifer_arma> ahh, manta
06:58 <GodTodd> you have to have some sort of leeway tho
06:58 <Durka> °°Manta
06:58 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: no we don't :)
06:58 <Durka> °o°
06:58 <GodTodd> so...if a team is 1 minute late, they forfeit?
06:58 <kamp> yea
06:58 <Lucifer_arma> I figure we'll give teams an opportunity to try to self-organize a makeup if they want, and give a deadline for that, under special circumstances
06:58 <kamp> i was going to say
06:58 <kamp> you need some leeway
06:58 <kamp> fifteen minutes should be more than enough time
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> leeway will be reasonable, heh. I thought you guys were talking like 2 hours leeway or something
06:59 <kamp> nahhh
06:59 <GodTodd> no
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> we're not going to say "Play your game between 6pm and 12am" or anything like that
06:59 <GodTodd> i was thinking 15-30 mins tops
06:59 <GodTodd> :)
06:59 <kamp> that too, is there officiating going on... sportsmanship, ticky tack things like that?
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> we say "Game starts at 7pm, 7:30pm is forfeit"
06:59 <GodTodd> to allow for stragglers
06:59 <kamp> no fouls in tron, really
06:59 <GodTodd> that's what i was thinking, Lucifer_arma
06:59 <GodTodd> :)
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> no officiating, but a game doesn't count if there's no recording associated with it
06:59 <kamp> ah
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> I'd like to get the recording done at the server level, if possible
07:00 <GodTodd> ok...so there is a check :)
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, logistically, I would like to have an alternate set of servers that report to a different master server
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> (this was joe's idea, cctually, and a good one!)
07:00 <GodTodd> yeah...joe gets those once in a while
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> team captains would have ingame admin on those servers
07:00 <kamp> if the server does the recording, then an organizer (you) can watch the game for really bad assholishness, and suspend that player for a game or two
07:00 <GodTodd> musta been the eclipse ;)
07:01 <kamp> Lucifer_arma: that is a good idea
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> kamp: the recordings and logs also provide us a way to reasonably sanity check the players playing
07:01 <kamp> GodTodd: there was an eclipse?
07:01 <GodTodd> yeah...lunar
07:01 <kamp> neat
07:01 <GodTodd> sunday night i guess
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> last-minute recruiting won't be allowed, you have to use only whoever is on your roster
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> roster changes have to be cleared with the league (that's us!)
07:01 <kamp> err
07:02 <GodTodd> ok...that was my next question
07:02 <kamp> you mentioned makeups earlier
07:02 <kamp> where would those come from?
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> makeup games?
07:02 <kamp> ahh, i thought you meant makeup players
07:02 <kamp> so strictly roster players
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> it's an idea I'm toying with. If a team fails to make it but has a really good reason, we might grant makeup games if the other team agrees, that sort of thing.
07:02 <GodTodd> you should have a list of a few alternates (in case of *gasp* RL issues)
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I'm not saying rosters can't be changed mid-season, but changes have to be cleared with the league
07:03 <kamp> GodTodd: no.
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: the teams will be limited to say 5 players in a game, but the roster will allow up to 10 or so.
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> maybe 8, who knows?
07:03 <kamp> real life should never get in the way of an amateur league game for an open source game that not many people play
07:03 <kamp> never
07:03 <GodTodd> that's what i'm saying, there :)
07:03 <Durka> anyone know something about macs
07:03 <GodTodd> they suck?
07:03 <Durka> whats better: MacPorts or Fink
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, good for diving?
07:03 <kamp> bernie mac is pretty funny, i don't know about the rest of the macs
07:04 <Durka> neither! luci sux ftw1
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> macs make good bases for tee ball
07:04 <Durka> hi5 luci
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> #rules
07:04 <armabot> A web variant of the english language in which letters are replaced with numbers and/or symbols that approximate letters. Though its use is considered cool in certain gaming or hacking communities, it's use here is frowned upon except in a strictly satirical sense. Talking like this was cool when you were 8 and used AOL. Figure it out.
07:04 <kamp> where is your post, luci?
07:04 <GodTodd> LWLZ!!1111!!!!11!
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> heh
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> [23:44] <Lucifer_arma> hang3r: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=14091
07:05 <hang3r> Lucifer_arma, I remember the last one we were in, I ended up dropping out (RL shit was going on)... But I actually don't go much for fortress, I'd rather see a team based normal game ladder
07:05 * GodTodd wonders why he never ripped his cds before :/
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> haha
07:06 <kamp> GodTodd: because it's boring and tedious and repetitive?
07:07 <GodTodd> yeah...but it makes them available for my mp3 player
07:08 <kamp> forget that
07:08 <kamp> i'm trying to get all the music off my hard drive and on to cds actually
07:08 <DrJoeTron> haha
07:08 * Durka wants his hi5
07:08 <DrJoeTron> im glad the rules thing is there still
07:08 <kamp> so i can use my boombox
07:08 <DrJoeTron> i copied that directly from SA :o
07:08 <kamp> agh
07:08 <kamp> we need another rule
07:08 <kamp> excessive reference to SomethingAwful.com is just stupid
07:09 <spidey> hey
07:09 <spidey> my walla is not a dumbass!
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07:10 * Durka is computer illiterate
07:10 <Durka> % ruby install.rb
07:10 <Durka> wtf is that ^^^
07:10 <kamp> looks like an install
07:10 <spidey> ...
07:10 <kamp> using ruby
07:10 <Durka> i know that ...
07:10 <spidey> a install?
07:11 <kamp> but that's just a guess
07:11 * Durka trying to install rake
07:11 <kamp> hehehehe
07:11 <kamp> what for, autumn passed
07:11 * Durka doesn't know wtf to do
07:11 * kamp thinks durka doth protest too much, and especially to the wrong people
07:11 <kamp> what the hell is rake?
07:11 <Durka> -bash: fg: %: no such job
07:12 <Durka> o_O
07:12 <kamp> ...
07:12 * Durka lost
07:12 <kamp> why don't you google it
07:12 <Durka> heh
07:12 <Durka> #g -bash: fg: %: no such job
07:12 <armabot> Durka: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
07:12 <Durka> #g % ruby
07:12 <kamp> arg
07:12 <armabot> Durka: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
07:12 <kamp> #g rake
07:12 <Durka> #kill armabot
07:12 <armabot> kamp: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
07:12 <armabot> armabot will die on Mon May 5 03:09:46 1986 due to being stabbed in the eye by guru3.
07:13 <kamp> #google rake
07:13 <armabot> kamp: Search took 0.19 seconds: The Rake :: <http://www.rakemag.com/>; Rake -- Ruby Make: <http://rake.rubyforge.org/>; Using the Rake Build Language: <http://www.martinfowler.com/articles/rake.html>; Rake - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rake>; Rake Documentation: <http://docs.rubyrake.org/>; RubyForge: Rake : Project Info: (1 more message)
07:13 <Durka> #google -bash: fg: %: no such job
07:13 <armabot> Durka: (google <search> [--{language,restrict} <value>] [--{notsafe,similar}]) -- Searches google.com for the given string. As many results as can fit are included. --language accepts a language abbreviation; --restrict restricts the results to certain classes of things; --similar tells Google not to filter similar results. --notsafe allows possibly work-unsafe results.
07:13 <kamp> there you go
07:13 <Durka> #google bash: fg: %: no such job
07:13 <armabot> Durka: Search took 0.19 seconds: lab1b [CS111]: <http://www.read.cs.ucla.edu/111/lab1b>; Mailing list archives: <http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/xmlgraphics-batik-users/200612.mbox/%3C457DA5F8.7070808@oma.be%3E>; Mailing list archives: <http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/xmlgraphics-batik-users/200612.mbox/%3C7796358.post@talk.nabble.com%3E>; sbooth.org :: View topic - (3 more messages)
07:13 <kamp> rake.rubyforge.org
07:13 <Durka> i looked
07:13 <Durka> it says
07:13 <kamp> i've decided everything you need to know is right there
07:13 <Durka> You can install rake with the following command.
07:13 <Durka> % ruby install.rb
07:13 <Durka> from its distribution directory.
07:13 <kamp> try going to #rake
07:13 <kamp> if there is one
07:13 <Durka> not on freenoob
07:14 <DrJoeTron> freenoob?
07:14 <kamp> then lemme alone
07:14 <DrJoeTron> damn man
07:14 <Durka> #armagetron @ irc.freenoob.net
07:14 <DrJoeTron> EDGY AS FUCKKKK
07:14 <kamp> :)
07:14 <DrJoeTron> :D
07:14 <Durka> u can talk wit noobs for free
07:14 <Durka> its tighyyyt
07:15 <kamp> #kill durka and joe
07:15 <armabot> durka and joe will die on Tue Oct 21 15:57:46 1980 due to being stabbed in the eye by Durka.
07:15 <kamp> ouch
07:15 -!- spidey is now known as Dorka
07:15 <kamp> homicide/suicide
07:15 <Dorka> ;D
07:15 <kamp> haha
07:15 <Durka> lmao
07:15 <Dorka> registered to :>
07:16 <Durka> lol
07:16 <kamp> #whoami
07:16 <armabot> kamp: I don't recognize you.
07:16 <kamp> :(
07:16 <Durka> #whoami
07:16 <armabot> Durka: I don't recognize you.
07:16 <Durka> heh
07:16 <kamp> #whoami
07:16 <GodTodd> #whoami
07:16 <armabot> kamp: kamp
07:16 <armabot> GodTodd: I don't recognize you.
07:16 <Dorka> #whoami
07:16 <armabot> Dorka: spidey
07:16 <Dorka> :D
07:16 <kamp> hah
07:16 <kamp> ok
07:16 <kamp> anyway
07:17 <GodTodd> #whoami
07:17 <armabot> GodTodd: GodTodd
07:17 <kamp> Lucifer_arma: count me in as far as organizing goes, i can't really help with the rest
07:17 <kamp> and good night y'all
07:17 <GodTodd> cya kamp
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> 'night kamp
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> but kamp
07:17 -!- kamp is now known as kamp|sleeping
07:17 <Dorka> sweet nightmares!
07:17 <Dorka> :D
07:17 <kamp|sleeping> what
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> most of the work to organize it is probably going to be done here :)
07:17 <kamp|sleeping> right now?
07:17 <kamp|sleeping> i have a test tomorrow at 1
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> not right this minute, no
07:17 <kamp|sleeping> well
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> just....here. Not on the forums.
07:18 <kamp|sleeping> kk
07:18 <Lucifer_arma> you know, because it's interactive :)
07:18 <kamp|sleeping> just use the forums and keep updates there
07:18 <kamp|sleeping> and don't use the wiki
07:18 <Lucifer_arma> and yes, if there's only 3 teams, I still want to run the league :)
07:18 <kamp|sleeping> that's too complicated
07:18 <kamp|sleeping> 3 teams will be easy
07:18 <Lucifer_arma> sorry, we'll use the wiki at some point
07:18 <kamp|sleeping> pick one out of a hat
07:18 <kamp|sleeping> and you have a champ
07:18 <Your_mom_arm1> how is the wiki too complicated?
07:18 <kamp|sleeping> it just is
07:18 <kamp|sleeping> here
07:18 <kamp|sleeping> 3 teams
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> it's more complicated than "left" and "right"
07:19 <kamp|sleeping> play 7 games against each other
07:19 <kamp|sleeping> there'll be a winner in each series
07:19 <kamp|sleeping> and whoever wins two series, wins it all
07:19 <kamp|sleeping> if no one does
07:19 <kamp|sleeping> you call them all mediocre
07:20 * Dorka calls kamp|sleeping mediocre
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> it would be neat if lack's KOTG determines a canonical King, then we can send our champion against their king and call it the World Series :)
07:20 <kamp|sleeping> what kotg?
07:20 <Dorka> haha
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> unless it's the same team
07:21 <Dorka> Lucifer_arma, Your_mom_arm1 luke-jr_ civ!?
07:21 <Dorka> :D
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> damn civ freak
07:21 <Durka> heh i have civ
07:21 <Your_mom_arm1> mabey
07:21 <kamp|sleeping> what's the name of the league anyway?
07:21 <Dorka> no durkas allowed
07:21 <Dorka> :D
07:21 <kamp|sleeping> needs a catchy name
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> kamp|sleeping: dont' know yet
07:21 <kamp|sleeping> and a sponsor
07:21 <kamp|sleeping> prize: t-shirt
07:21 <kamp|sleeping> makes sense to me
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> I was just thinking something simple or silly. Simple would be like Armagetron Advanced Fortress League
07:21 <Dorka> Lucifer_arma, not a civ freak, i'm just mellow right now and fps move faster than i can xD
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> AAFL
07:22 <kamp|sleeping> not bad
07:22 <Dorka> aafl?
07:22 <Your_mom_arm1> #google aafl
07:22 <armabot> Your_mom_arm1: Search took 0.16 seconds: All American Football League: <http://www.allamericanfootballleague.com/>; All American Football League ( AAFL ) Outdoor Football on OurSports ...: <http://www.oursportscentral.com/sports/?l_id=131>; AAFL - OurSports Central Independent and Minor League Sports Forums: <http://www.oursportscentral.com/boards/forumdisplay.php?f=99>; Australian Alpaca (2 more messages)
07:22 <kamp|sleeping> rings of arena football, but not bad
07:22 <kamp|sleeping> hah
07:22 <Dorka> lol
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> #cyborg AAFL
07:22 <Durka> wheres nemo when u need him
07:22 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: A.A.F.L.: Artificial Accurate Fighting Lifeform
07:22 <kamp|sleeping> #google ATFL
07:22 <armabot> kamp|sleeping: Search took 0.13 seconds: The American Task Force for Lebanon: <http://www.atfl.org/>; Anterior Talofibular Ligament - Wheeless' Textbook of Orthopaedics: <http://www.wheelessonline.com/ortho/anterior_talofibular_ligament>; eMedicine - Talofibular Ligament Injury : Article by Michael Taylor: <http://www.emedicine.com/sports/topic126.htm>; Kyle Palmer, M.D. - The Ankle - (2 more messages)
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> it's ok to have some collision with an acronym
07:22 <kamp|sleeping> we can take that one
07:23 <kamp|sleeping> ArmageTron Fortress League
07:23 <Lucifer_arma> as long as the meaning of the acronym is clear
07:23 <Lucifer_arma> I'd rather stress "arma" over "tron"
07:23 <kamp|sleeping> and yet
07:23 <kamp|sleeping> tron is what most people would recognize right away
07:23 <Lucifer_arma> yep
07:23 <Lucifer_arma> call me crazy
07:23 <kamp|sleeping> eitherway, the advanced, you can do away with without a second thought
07:23 <Lucifer_arma> yep, reducing my own name to AFL
07:24 <kamp|sleeping> and that is the arena football league
07:24 <Your_mom_arm1> like that band?
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> we could just do MLA
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> Major League Armagetron :)
07:24 <kamp|sleeping> if you had a registration fee
07:24 <Your_mom_arm1> im getting lost in acronyms now
07:24 <kamp|sleeping> then we could pony up and get the winner those tron sneakers
07:24 <kamp|sleeping> that adidas made
07:24 <kamp|sleeping> MLA...
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> registration fee for the fall season and all thereafter, but I want to run a test season in July
07:24 <Durka> AAA
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> that will be free for all
07:25 <Durka> AAAA
07:25 <Your_mom_arm1> i'ld wear those sneakers if i was still five
07:25 <Durka> American Armagetron Advanced Association of America
07:25 <Durka> AAAAA
07:25 <Lucifer_arma> a silly name would be something like AFA, Armagetron Fortress Anonymous
07:25 <kamp|sleeping> yea
07:25 <Durka> AAAAA ftw!
07:25 <kamp|sleeping> it doesn't need to be a league sounding name
07:25 <Lucifer_arma> or we could let Durka come up with a jingoist name that'll guarantee we only have 6 players
07:25 <Your_mom_arm1> afk armagetron fortress king
07:25 <Durka> xD
07:26 <kamp|sleeping> there's always Armagetron Fortress Championship
07:26 <Durka> thats like korg
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> haha, I like that one, mom
07:26 <kamp|sleeping> AFC
07:26 <Durka> LJSSB
07:26 <kamp|sleeping> oh no
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> World Tron Fortress
07:26 <Durka> luke jr server suck balls
07:26 <kamp|sleeping> heh
07:26 <Your_mom_arm1> haha
07:26 <kamp|sleeping> nice, but it doesn't make any sense
07:26 <Durka> =/
07:27 <Your_mom_arm1> i like the wtf name
07:27 <kamp|sleeping> you can do the spanish thing
07:27 <GodTodd> AKFC -> Armagetron King of Fortress Championship
07:27 <kamp|sleeping> and call it La Liga
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> hahahaha
07:27 <kamp|sleeping> all self important
07:27 <kamp|sleeping> King f Fortress
07:27 <kamp|sleeping> we should get snazzy japanime images to go with it too
07:28 <Your_mom_arm1> haha
07:28 <Lucifer_arma> joe's mspaint isn't good enough for you?
07:28 <kamp|sleeping> nope
07:28 <GodTodd> mspaint!
07:28 <Durka> KFC
07:28 <Lucifer_arma> a good trophy would be a t-shirt with one of joe's mspaint masterpieces commemorating the event
07:28 <Durka> Kentucky Fried Chicken/King of Fortress Championship
07:28 * GodTodd watches durka catch up...
07:28 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: What state is KFC from?
07:28 <Durka> DDMJ - dØrka dØrka muhammad jihad
07:29 <Your_mom_arm1> durka you missed that idea pgup
07:29 <Durka> idk fuck like alaska or some shit
07:29 * Lucifer_arma really hopes durka's joking
07:29 * GodTodd does too
07:29 <Durka> xD
07:29 <Durka> if i can dig 1 hole in 2 hours
07:30 <Durka> how many holes can i dig in 1 hour?
07:30 <Lucifer_arma> one
07:30 <Dorka> lol
07:30 <Durka> awww
07:30 <GodTodd> just not as deep
07:30 <Durka> u ruined itz0rz
07:30 <Lucifer_arma> you don't know who you're dealing with!
07:30 * Durka wonders if half holes exist...
07:30 <Durka> if a = 1
07:30 <GodTodd> if i can dig 1 hole in 2 hours
07:30 <Durka> b = 2
07:30 <kamp|sleeping> off
07:30 <kamp|sleeping> pff
07:30 <Durka> c = 3
07:30 <Durka> d = 4
07:31 <Durka> what does e =
07:31 <GodTodd> how many can i dig in one hour if i'm unionized?
07:31 <Lucifer_arma> mc^2
07:31 <kamp|sleeping> i dunno
07:31 <Durka> fuck u luzi
07:31 <Durka> luci *
07:31 <kamp|sleeping> but you're an asshole
07:31 <Lucifer_arma> hahahaha
07:31 <Durka> :P
07:31 <kamp|sleeping> argh
07:31 <kamp|sleeping> sleep
07:31 <kamp|sleeping> i'm out
07:31 <Durka> grrr
07:31 <Your_mom_arm1> i=mr^2
07:31 <kamp|sleeping> #roulette
07:31 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
07:31 * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
07:31 <Durka> lol
07:31 <Durka> #knockout kamp|sleeping
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07:32 <kamp|sleeping> hi z-man
07:32 <Durka> Your_mom_arm1 is so fat <insert lame joke here>
07:32 <Durka> hi z-man
07:32 <GodTodd> mom is buff
07:32 <Dorka> hi durka
07:32 <Durka> o_O
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07:32 <Lucifer_arma> hi z-man
07:32 <Spadey> =/
07:32 <Lucifer_arma> spadey, heh
07:33 <GodTodd> durka is spayed?
07:33 -!- Spadey is now known as Locifer_arma
07:33 <GodTodd> bout damn time
07:33 <Lucifer_arma> little twerp can't even spell his own name right
07:33 <Locifer_arma> =/
07:33 -!- Locifer_arma is now known as GidTidd
07:33 <Dorka> lol
07:33 -!- GidTidd is now known as GoodTit
07:33 <Lucifer_arma> I once had a teacher in school who took 5 points off a kid's grade on a spelling test for misspelling his own name
07:33 <Dorka> O.o
07:34 * GodTodd waits for the "and that kid was me"
07:34 <GodTodd> ;)
07:34 <Lucifer_arma> and that kid was GodTodd (hi there!)
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07:34 <tfnrpltrw> o_O
07:34 <Dorka> :O
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07:34 <Dorka> LOL
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07:34 <tfnrpltrw> figgit
07:35 <Your_mom_arm1> dont learn your lesson well?
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07:35 <Locfer_mom_arma2> heh
07:35 <Dorka> :O
07:35 <Locfer_mom_arma2> oh noes
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07:36 <meh> =/
07:36 <meh> my mom kicked me :(
07:36 <meh> well your mom actually
07:36 <Dorka> adopted*
07:36 <meh> well, Your_mom_arm1 to be exact
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> if my mom had kicked you, you wouldn't have been able to get back up
07:36 <Dorka> lol
07:37 <meh> heh
07:38 <DrJoeTron> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXxLbLvCRrk lips 2 da floor
07:38 <hang3r> Why give retards the chanserv password?
07:38 <Dorka> ?
07:39 * GodTodd is a retard and doesn't have the pwd :P
07:39 * Dorka agrees
07:40 <DrJoeTron> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc9y5ayeeb4 i should've learned this in class
07:40 <GodTodd> joe, you watch too much youtube
07:40 <GodTodd> heh
07:41 <Lucifer_arma> between SA and youtube, one has to wonder what joe actually has time for
07:41 <Lucifer_arma> hey DrJoeTron (hi there!) , you want to give a cartoon on a t-shirt to the champion?
07:41 <GodTodd> mspaint
07:41 <Dorka> haha\
07:41 <DrJoeTron> YES
07:41 <DrJoeTron> HOLY FUCK YES
07:41 <Lucifer_arma> er, it ws a serious question :)
07:41 <DrJoeTron> it better fucking be
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> the only real question is if we can collect enough in fees to pay for t-shirts for everyone on the winning team and ship them, potentially (and likely) overseas
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> on a related note, joe, would you be willing to do artwork for a line of merchandise to support the league?
07:42 <meh> lol joe :P
07:42 <DrJoeTron> hahaha
07:42 <DrJoeTron> merchandise?
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.cafepress.com/
07:43 <DrJoeTron> like armagetron pogs?
07:43 <Lucifer_arma> coffee mugs, mouse pads, etc
07:43 <Lucifer_arma> league-specific
07:43 <DrJoeTron> you're fucking shitting me
07:43 <GodTodd> heh...was just going to ask if you were going to cafepress it
07:43 <Lucifer_arma> they should all have the league logo on there somewhere
07:43 <DrJoeTron> yeah i could do it
07:43 * Lucifer_arma wants to see a cartoon of himself taking a shit, and DrJoeTron coming out
07:43 <Dorka> O.o
07:44 <DrJoeTron> why cafepress?
07:44 <Lucifer_arma> got a better place?
07:44 <Lucifer_arma> cafepress does all the real work for us
07:44 <Lucifer_arma> we just need to provide the artwork :)
07:44 <DrJoeTron> ok
07:44 <DrJoeTron> just gotta make sure its CMYK right?
07:45 <Lucifer_arma> thought they took any sort of png, but check their guidelines
07:45 <Lucifer_arma> so, what are we going to name this thing, anyway?
07:45 <Lucifer_arma> I like mom's afk suggestion, but I don't like using "King", since there's already kings of the grid :(
07:45 <DrJoeTron> I GOT IT
07:45 <GodTodd> ATMLL
07:45 <DrJoeTron> since im doing the mspaint
07:45 <DrJoeTron> KING O FTRON
07:45 <GodTodd> Armagetron Took My Life League
07:46 <DrJoeTron> is it ok if i make them look as stupid as possible?
07:46 <DrJoeTron> like missing teeth smiles and stuff
07:46 <DrJoeTron> and put some actual work to it
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> well, it has to be stuff people would actually want to *buy*
07:46 <DrJoeTron> i;d buy it
07:47 <GodTodd> spoken like the artist
07:47 <GodTodd> :D
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> would someone besides you or your mother buy it?
07:47 <Dorka> haha\
07:47 <DrJoeTron> my friend is looking up a place that does screen printing
07:47 <GodTodd> i'd buy my novel too...but not many would, i'd wager :P
07:47 <DrJoeTron> type of tshirt
07:47 <DrJoeTron> 50/50 blend
07:47 <DrJoeTron> or 100% cotton
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> if there's money to do it, we can have higher-quality t-shirts printed for the champs compared to what's available for regular people
07:48 <GodTodd> the kind that falls apart in the washer
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> in fact, it's cheaper when you get it done right, without iron-ons
07:48 <DrJoeTron> well i mean
07:48 <DrJoeTron> cafepress is a bit over priced
07:48 <DrJoeTron> for the stuff they do
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> depends on how you look at it
07:48 <DrJoeTron> yeah true
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> is there going to be enough volume to warrant shipping out of our own homes? Getting a special bank account to handle the credit card transactions?
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> the base price on those items buys an awful lot of automation
07:49 <DrJoeTron> so
07:49 <DrJoeTron> is mspaint ok?
07:49 <DrJoeTron> or do you want me to do actual shit
07:49 <DrJoeTron> i think mspaint would make it awesome
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> why would I be asking you to do it if mspaint wasn't ok?
07:50 <DrJoeTron> hey just making sure
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> :)
07:50 <DrJoeTron> i'll be sure to use all of my software
07:52 <DrJoeTron> can you give me how big these things need to be?
07:52 <DrJoeTron> in terms of reslotion, colors, etc
07:52 <DrJoeTron> thats important info :o
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07:53 <DrBlowTron> :o
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07:54 <Durka> -.-
07:55 <Lucifer_arma> the info is on cafepress's website, I'll try to dig it up real quick
07:55 <DrJoeTron> im sure cafepress doesnt care
07:55 <DrJoeTron> but yi do
07:55 <Lucifer_arma> they have a "best results" resolution
07:55 <Lucifer_arma> for each item
07:55 <Lucifer_arma> and try to figure out a name for the league :)
07:56 <Lucifer_arma> the merchandise should be generally interesting to arma players and geeks in general, gamers in general, etc.
07:56 <Lucifer_arma> and should all have the logo on there somewhere for the league :)
07:56 <DrJoeTron> i really want KING O FTRON
07:57 <DrJoeTron> of course
07:57 <DrJoeTron> and i'll put the year and all of that jazz
07:57 <DrJoeTron> and if needed and now i desire
07:57 <DrJoeTron> i'll make a new pic every year
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> http://help.cafepress.com/hc/s-74058960/cmd/kbresource/kb-4063593191279725905/front_page!PAGETYPE?category=9&VisitorProfile=Cafepress
07:59 <DrJoeTron> should we do Direct Printing?
08:00 <DrJoeTron> and how about black tshirts
08:00 <DrJoeTron> nah
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08:01 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, it may be that we have to look at the individual products to get image sizes
08:01 <DrJoeTron> ok
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08:01 <DrJoeTron> hmmm
08:01 <DrJoeTron> idonno guys
08:02 <DrJoeTron> would you wear an armagetron tshirt?
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> 100dpi recommended
08:02 <DrJoeTron> ok
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> centered images on t-shirts are 10x10 inches
08:02 <DrJoeTron> sweet
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> the front pocket is 6 x 6
08:03 <DrJoeTron> i'll creat a psd now
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> just the shoulders on the back is 10 x 4
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> they have 200dpi templates
08:03 <DrJoeTron> we just want centered images?
08:03 <DrJoeTron> can you link me
08:03 <DrJoeTron> ?
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> what I'm looking at is only for logged in users :(
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> aaa, what the hell
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> hang on
08:04 <DrJoeTron> sure thing
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> probably not a bad thing, since I'll just create the shop right there :)
08:06 <DrJoeTron> can you link me now?
08:06 <DrJoeTron> to these templates
08:06 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.cafepress.com/cp/members/products/product_edit_design.aspx?itemno=15177382&side=F
08:06 <Lucifer_arma> links are on that page
08:08 <DrJoeTron> haha
08:08 <DrJoeTron> shit man
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> I don't understand why that shirt doesn't sell :(
08:08 <DrJoeTron> haha
08:09 <DrJoeTron> i can make my own damn template
08:10 <DrJoeTron> lemme reconfigure photoshop to cmyk
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> if we hurry up and name the league, I can create the cafepress store and you can just start filling it with junk
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> couple of things, depending on how much work you want to do for it :)
08:10 <DrJoeTron> shoot
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> it should have season and year, not just year, since we're looking at two seasons per year
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> also, I want a test run this summer, so there'll be a summer '07, fall '07, spring '08, fall '08, etc
08:11 <DrJoeTron> oooh ok
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> second, this is the part that depends on how much work you want to do. We should take all the previous season's stuff off and do new stuff each season
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> we might recycle designs, but I want people to think that everything is limited edition, so if they don't buy it now, it may not be there later
08:12 <Lucifer_arma> but that's a lot of work
08:12 <Lucifer_arma> it would make sense to let the summer '07 stuff bleed into the fall, though, since it is a short test season
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> then, the money's got to go two ways at least
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> 1) pay for the league's own expenses (and if there's money, we'll want to add expenses, like a domain, dedicated server or three, etc, then trophies and shit)
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> 2) paypal to Tank Program for the project :)
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> after that, we can fight over it.
08:13 <DrJoeTron> pfft
08:14 <DrJoeTron> doing new images is no big deal
08:14 <DrJoeTron> especially if its MSPAINT
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> aha
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.cafepress.com/cp/info/help/help_image_sizes.aspx
08:31 <DrJoeTron> ok ok
08:31 <DrJoeTron> i can make a pic
08:31 <DrJoeTron> i need a name
08:31 <DrJoeTron> brb
08:33 <DrJoeTron> ok
08:33 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma help me come up a name for this thing
08:34 <Lucifer_arma> I'm leaning towards something boring
08:34 <Lucifer_arma> Armagetron Fortress League
08:34 <Lucifer_arma> something like that
08:34 <DrJoeTron> thats lame
08:34 <DrJoeTron> and yet
08:34 <DrJoeTron> i cant come up with anything better
08:35 <Lucifer_arma> try to fit something to afk that doesn't use "King" :)
08:35 <DrJoeTron> Armagetron Fortress Kings
08:36 <DrJoeTron> i'd like to make the image somewhat professional
08:36 <DrJoeTron> yet satirical
08:40 <Lucifer_arma> er
08:40 <Lucifer_arma> make afk fit something that does NOT use the word "King"
08:40 <Lucifer_arma> or Kings :)
08:42 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm
08:42 <Lucifer_arma> thesaurus isn't helping me
08:46 <Lucifer_arma> how about a word that starts with T and means something like "big bad asses"
08:48 <Lucifer_arma> fuck it
08:48 <Lucifer_arma> I say we just go with Armagetron Fortress League
08:52 <DrJoeTron> yeah
08:52 <DrJoeTron> keepit
08:52 <DrJoeTron> for now
08:53 <DrJoeTron> :o
09:02 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma you thee?
09:02 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I am mee
09:02 <DrJoeTron> ok
09:03 <DrJoeTron> http://76.215.1.196/hurfdurf.jpg no way in hell is this what im using
09:03 <DrJoeTron> this is more or less me dicking around
09:03 <DrJoeTron> but a very very very general idea
09:04 <Lucifer_arma> heh
09:04 <Lucifer_arma> where's the wall the guy leaves wherever he goes? ;)
09:05 <DrJoeTron> hahaha
09:05 <DrJoeTron> oh god thats perfect
09:05 <DrJoeTron> im going to draw a wall coming behind a person
09:05 <DrJoeTron> with blood and debris everywhere
09:05 <DrJoeTron> well not everywhere
09:05 <DrJoeTron> but there
09:07 <DrJoeTron> i want that face though
09:07 <DrJoeTron> i think its priceless
09:10 <DrJoeTron> ibut yeah
09:10 <DrJoeTron> thats what it will be
09:11 <DrJoeTron> thanks for the idea
09:11 <DrJoeTron> :D
09:13 <DrJoeTron> give me a little bit to make it
09:14 <DrJoeTron> i'll try and get it done sometime soon
09:16 <DrJoeTron> sleep time
09:16 <DrJoeTron> ta
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09:32 <z-man> Lucifer_arma: ROFL also contains Fortress League, perhaps someone can make something of the first two letters?
09:33 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmm
09:33 <z-man> aRmagetrOn Fortress League?
09:33 <Lucifer_arma> Right-On Fortress League :)
09:34 * Lucifer_arma wonders how far the phrse "right on" has penetrated past the hippies that came up with it
09:35 <hang3r> Thankfully it was a term never used in Australia.
09:37 * z-man admits he only knows it in the "go right on" context, so he probably doesn't get the hippie meaning
09:40 <Lucifer_arma> so it would be lost on most of the players, I guess
09:40 <Lucifer_arma> heh
09:40 <Lucifer_arma> basically, it's like this. "Dude, I just scored some killer weed from this chick, then she slept with me!"
09:40 <Lucifer_arma> "Right on!"
09:41 <Lucifer_arma> or "I got a 98 on my physics test!"
09:41 <Lucifer_arma> "Right on!"
09:41 <Lucifer_arma> "My team won the fortress league championship!"
09:41 <Lucifer_arma> "Right on!"
09:41 <Lucifer_arma> etc
09:44 <z-man> So it's the same as "whoa, dude!"?
09:44 * Lucifer_arma will think about RO
09:44 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, one meaning I guess. "Whoa, dude!" is pretty generic. ;)
09:44 <z-man> Right :)
09:45 <z-man> off to work
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11:17 <Lucifer_arma> Regular Old Fortress League :)
11:27 <z-man-work> Really Original.
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14:24 <Dorka> :O
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18:15 <epsy> i wonder if i can hide the chat hud on/off by pressing a key...
18:22 <luke-jr_work> ...
18:31 <epsy> …?
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19:23 <wrtlprnft> epsy: bind the scroll down key to something more accessible :P
19:23 <epsy> nah i still get annoyed by hud messages(especially entering players)
19:26 <wrtlprnft> #armaconfig console_rows
19:26 <armabot> wrtlprnft: CONSOLE_ROWS: Number of lines of console output without user intervention (default: 5) || CONSOLE_ROWS_MAX: Number of lines of console output when scrolling back (default: 19)
19:26 <epsy> k now how i toggle it back and forth ?
19:26 <wrtlprnft> use a /console instant chat to set that to 0/5?
19:27 <epsy> /console is the command that was missing to me...
19:27 <wrtlprnft> on 0.3.0 and up, at least
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20:02 <epsy> still need to find a place for 2 IC...hehe
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20:03 <DrJoeTron> thank you sewing machine oil "D
20:04 <DrJoeTron> that'll give the fan on my video card a couple more months to live "D
20:08 * GodTodd wonders about joe actually having sewing machine oil...
20:11 <DrJoeTron> I dont want 2020 involved on this fortress league what so ever
20:11 <luke-jr_work> ...
20:12 <GodTodd> we all know you'd rather have hyphy ;)
20:12 <DrJoeTron> compared to 2020
20:12 <DrJoeTron> i would
20:12 * luke-jr_work bans DrJoeTron from Arma
20:12 <luke-jr_work> go sit in the corner
20:12 <luke-jr_work> and think about what you just said
20:12 <DrJoeTron> it's 2020!
20:12 <luke-jr_work> and then
20:12 <DrJoeTron> he's creepy!
20:12 <luke-jr_work> when you're done
20:13 <luke-jr_work> you will have
20:13 <luke-jr_work> change
20:13 <luke-jr_work> d
20:13 <luke-jr_work> your mind
20:13 <DrJoeTron> this is the guy who wanted to give cash prizes to 13 year olds for this game
20:14 <GodTodd> sure it wasn't candy for other games?
20:14 <GodTodd> heh
20:14 <DrJoeTron> hahha
20:15 <luke-jr_work> DrJoeTron: hm?
20:16 <DrJoeTron> did you not remember that?
20:16 <DrJoeTron> cash prizes!
20:16 <luke-jr_work> so?
20:16 <DrJoeTron> a thousand people playing tron
20:16 <DrJoeTron> creating world peace!
20:17 * GodTodd creates world peace.
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20:25 <GodTodd> aha! it worked :D
20:25 <DrJoeTron> :D
20:25 <GodTodd> and in less than 10 minutes :)
20:26 <DrJoeTron> thank you :D
20:26 * GodTodd bows.
20:26 <GodTodd> glad to be of service
20:26 <GodTodd> heh
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20:35 <GodTodd> well...world peace was nice while it lasted :/
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20:47 * luke-jr_work hangs GodTodd
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20:47 <GodTodd> for?
20:48 * GodTodd rises again, causing luke-jr_ to worship him as Lord and Savior.
20:48 <luke-jr_work> thou art a hairy tick!
20:49 <GodTodd> your God is a hairy tick?
20:49 <GodTodd> how blasphemous of you
20:49 <GodTodd> :)
20:50 <luke-jr_work> no
20:50 <luke-jr_work> you are
20:50 <GodTodd> that's what i said...
20:56 <pavelo> "thou art a hairy tick" is that a shakespeare program ?
20:56 <pavelo> it sure sounds like that
21:00 <luke-jr_work> no
21:01 <luke-jr_work> I was calling him a heretic
21:01 <luke-jr_work> though he's more of a pagan
21:01 <luke-jr_work> IIRC
21:01 <DrJoeTron> God is a pagan?
21:02 <pavelo> pagans have gods
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21:07 <madmax|pt> hello
21:08 <pavelo> 'ello
21:08 <mkzelda> lol, check out #1 high score on http://www.handdrawngames.com/DesktopTD/Scoreboard.asp
21:08 <mkzelda> :D
21:09 <mkzelda> you guys can tell all your friends you know the guy that got the high score on Desktop Tower Defense
21:09 <mkzelda> tell your grandkids about it one day
21:20 <luke-jr_work> that's not saying much
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21:29 <mkzelda> about your ability to detect sarcasm? i know
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21:47 <mkzelda> lol they removed my high score already
21:51 <madmax|pt> so, no story
22:00 <pavelo> you should've taken a screenshot
22:05 <ghableska> #weather 50266
22:05 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 31.6°F (3:01 PM CST on March 07, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 21.2°F. Pressure: 29.34 in 993.5 hPa (Rising).
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22:09 <Nixda301> hello
22:09 <madmax|pt> crap.
22:09 <madmax|pt> I guess its too late
22:10 <mkzelda> i did take a screenshot
22:10 <mkzelda> http://www.handdrawngames.com/DesktopTD/CScoreboard.asp
22:10 <mkzelda> i also have the high score there :D
22:10 <mkzelda> on squirt and frost towers ONLY
22:10 <mkzelda> i have pellet towers :D
22:10 <madmax|pt> haha
22:19 <DrJoeTron> those sounds
22:19 <DrJoeTron> i've heard them from somewhere
22:19 <madmax|pt> lemmings?
22:19 <DrJoeTron> yeah!
22:19 <DrJoeTron> lemmings paint ball
22:20 <mkzelda> http://www.mkzelda.com/highscore.png theres the other high score that got removed w/in 10 mins
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23:39 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
23:39 <ghableska> hi Vanhayes
23:39 <Vanhayes> hello
23:39 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
23:39 <armabot> Vanhayes: ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬ (14 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (13 players) || Norm's Place (10 players) || °¯ps Arena ~~~ Team Sumo ~~~ (10 players) || {Delicious Desserts} Custom Map (9 players) || Wild West =Capture The Flag= (8 players) || Chico's Brake Boost Styball (8 players) || LoBo's Fun Server (7 players) || ~*SpeederS*~ Server (6 players) || Strawberry Fields (1 more message)
23:40 <ghableska> #serverdetails chico
23:40 <armabot> ghableska: Chico's Brake Boost Styball: Players (6/8): :TS: ScX B345T, kate moss, Kerouac3001, kidd, mañn, SuBlImInAl.FreQ
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23:53 <ghableska> do all of radian's posts look like he was typing while drunk?
23:53 <ghableska> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=14141
23:54 <Vanhayes> wel afaik thats how he usualy plays tron so...
23:54 <ghableska> haha
23:55 <Vanhayes> #lastseen Vanhayes
23:55 <armabot> Vanhayes: Vanhayes has last been seen on Wild West =CTF Shooting= 1 days 23 hours 21 minutes ago.
23:56 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
23:56 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 10°F / -12°C | Humidity: 31% | Pressure: 30.01in / 1016hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h | Updated: 6:00 PM AST; Tonight - Clear. Wind northwest 20 km/h becoming light this evening. Low minus 18.; Thursday - Becoming cloudy in the morning. Clearing in the afternoon. Wind becoming northwest 30 km/h gusting to 50 in the morning. (1 more message)
23:58 <madmax|pt> #weather lisbon
23:58 <armabot> madmax|pt: Temperature: 54°F / 12°C | Humidity: 82% | Pressure: 30.45in / 1031hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 15mph / 24km/h | Updated: 10:30 PM WET; Chance of Rain. High:62 ° F. / 17 ° C.; Clear. Low:48 ° F. / 9 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. High:60 ° F. / 16 ° C.; Clear. Low:48 ° F. / 9 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. High:64 ° F. / 18 ° C.; Clear. Low:50 ° F. / 10 ° C.;
23:58 <guru3> wrtlprnft: i like the 'shrapnel' idea
23:58 <guru3> could be fun
23:59 <guru3> off to bed now tho
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