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Log from 2007-03-06:
--- Day changed Tue Mar 06 2007
00:00 <luke-jr_work> tracepath 4.2.22
00:00 <luke-jr_work> tracepath
00:00 <mkzelda> 11:  vnsc-bak.sys.gtei.net (                      asymm 15  25.383ms reached
00:01 <mkzelda> so it doesnt answer to everyone
00:01 <luke-jr_work> hmmm
00:01 <luke-jr_work> how about :D
00:01 <mkzelda> same
00:02 <luke-jr_work> ?
00:02 <mkzelda>
00:02 <mkzelda> which is what i got b4
00:02 <luke-jr_work> ....
00:02 <mkzelda> and u told me thats not it
00:02 <luke-jr_work> no
00:02 <luke-jr_work> <--
00:03 <mkzelda> i used that
00:03 <luke-jr_work> ...
00:03 <mkzelda> and it returned
00:03 <mkzelda>
00:03 <luke-jr_work> oh
00:03 <luke-jr_work> yeah, that looks rihgt
00:03 <mkzelda> [2007-03-05 17:59:49] <luke-jr_work> !=
00:03 <luke-jr_work> I thought u meant you tried that for your DNS server
00:03 <luke-jr_work> :p
00:03 <mkzelda> ahhh(*#@$
00:04 <mkzelda> no i said i entered that into my dns manually
00:05 <luke-jr_work> ...
00:05 <luke-jr_work> you mean hosts?
00:07 <mkzelda> lol, now i gotta play teh sourceforge busy reconnect game
00:07 <mkzelda> ah second try good deal
00:11 <mkzelda> that is registered to a company right around the corner from me
00:32 <luke-jr_work> lol
00:33 -!- |Sticky| [n=kvirc@80-41-80-185.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #armagetron
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00:47 <Van-hayes> #ping
00:47 <armabot> pong
00:47 -!- Vanhayes [i=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu83w-156034244086.nb.aliant.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.]
00:47 -!- Van-hayes is now known as Vanhayes
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00:49 <ghableska> #weather 50266
00:49 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 25.2°F (5:46 PM CST on March 05, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 8.6°F. Windchill: 17.6°F. Pressure: 29.48 in 998.2 hPa. 
00:49 -!- Van-hayes [i=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu83w-156034240229.nb.aliant.net] has joined #armagetron
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00:50 -!- Van-hayes is now known as Vanhayes
00:50 <ghableska> o_O
00:51 <Vanhayes> I was screwing around with my router
00:52 <ghableska> heh
00:52 <ghableska> it didn't seem to help :p
00:52 <luke-jr_work> Vanhayes: you were screwing your router?
00:53 <ghableska> #luke
00:53 <armabot> STFU baka noob?? RTFM?? ur lame or smth.
00:53 <Vanhayes> yes luke, thats exactally what I was doing
00:53 <luke-jr_work> sick
00:54  * ghableska installs kubuntu
00:55 <ghableska> oh wait, I need a blank cd :/
00:55 -!- wejp [n=j@i577BB5A2.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)]
00:56 <luke-jr_work> ghableska: why
00:56 <ghableska> because I feel like running something that's not windows
00:56 <luke-jr_work> oh
00:56 <luke-jr_work> I mean why do you need a blank CD
00:56 <ghableska> to boot from cd?
00:57 <luke-jr_work> why do you need to boot from CD?
00:57 <ghableska> uhh
00:57 <luke-jr_work> :p
00:57 <ghableska> how else are you supposed to install it? o_O
00:57 <luke-jr_work> well....
00:58 <luke-jr_work> you *could* just resize Windows, download the ISO, and install it with qemu
00:58 <ghableska> resize?
00:59 <luke-jr_work> yeah
00:59 <luke-jr_work> I imagine there must be Win apps for resizing...
00:59  * ghableska shrugs
00:59 <luke-jr_work> could always pirate Partition Magic
00:59 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p508700B3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron
00:59 <luke-jr_work> we should kick z-man off the team
00:59 <luke-jr_work> err
01:00 <ghableska> why?
01:00 <luke-jr_work> Hi z-man :)
01:00 <luke-jr_work> ghableska: nothin, just messing with him :)
01:00 <|Sticky|> i ran into this problem a few weeks ago...XP has no good way to resize a disk
01:00  * ghableska thinks luke-jr_work should be killed instead
01:00 <ghableska> er, kicked
01:00 <luke-jr_work> |Sticky|: partition magic doesn't work?
01:00 <luke-jr_work> #kill ghableska 
01:00 <armabot> ghableska will die on Fri May 18 18:05:01 1984 due to being stabbed in the eye by ghableska.
01:00 <luke-jr_work> suicidal!
01:01 <ghableska> no, I'm dying in 2010
01:01 <ghableska> #kill luke-jr_work
01:01 <armabot> luke-jr_work will die on Mon Oct 11 01:25:44 2004 due to being stabbed in the eye by Vanhayes.
01:01 <luke-jr_work> you die twice
01:01 <|Sticky|> problem is xp will not unmount a disk so any method will involve booting into a cutom os like partition magic
01:01 <luke-jr_work> |Sticky|: Partition Magic doesn't have a custom OS
01:01 <|Sticky|> yeah it reboots you
01:02 <luke-jr_work> IIRC, it does it during a reboot
01:02 <luke-jr_work> without a CD tho
01:02 <|Sticky|> ture
01:02 <|Sticky|> true
01:04 -!- MaZuffeR [n=MaZuffeR@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has quit ["Leaving."]
01:06 <|Sticky|> you could do a usb boot to install ubuntu but the time and trouble to sort out the usb stick isnt worth the 30 cents you save on a cdr
01:07 <DrJoeTron> oh daemon tools
01:07 <DrJoeTron> i love and hate you so much
01:08 <ghableska> heh
01:08 <ghableska> why do you hate it?
01:08 <DrJoeTron> it runs when i don't want it to
01:08 <ghableska> o_O
01:08 <DrJoeTron> and i hate programs that won't let me kill it
01:09 -!- Canada [n=Donkeybl@pool-72-75-33-178.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron
01:09 <DrJoeTron> i told you howmany resources i have running :o
01:09 <ghableska> how many?
01:09 <|Sticky|> i have that problem with real player...the player that wishes to dominate your computer
01:09 <DrJoeTron> lemme check
01:09 <ghableska> eww
01:09 <DrJoeTron> yeah
01:09 <ghableska> realplayer = >_<
01:09  * luke-jr_work notes RealPlayer is much more tolerable on *nix
01:09 -!- Canada [n=Donkeybl@pool-72-75-33-178.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit [Client Quit]
01:09 <DrJoeTron> and B--B-B-B-B-UFFE--E-E---RR-RR
01:09 -!- Poppet [n=Tronner@pool-72-75-33-178.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron
01:10 <luke-jr_work> wtf is Poppet 
01:10 <ghableska> like a puppet?
01:10 <Poppet> its old english for Puppet
01:10 <ghableska> DrJoeTron: BioShock trailer! :o
01:10 <DrJoeTron> i cant look at trailers
01:10 <DrJoeTron> i want to save money :/
01:10 <luke-jr_work> ...
01:10 <|Sticky|> real player in windows just pops up that fantaric window that basicaly says would you like to redefine the default program for ALL file types to RP
01:10 <Poppet> trailers are free...
01:11 <DrJoeTron> well fucking duh
01:11 <luke-jr_work> |Sticky|: it does a lot more than that
01:11 <DrJoeTron> but i end up buying the game on impulse
01:11 <Poppet> ah
01:11 <luke-jr_work> DrJoeTron: you need to pirate more
01:11 <DrJoeTron> damn you sonic and the secret rings
01:11 <Poppet> then control yourself :)
01:11 <DrJoeTron> luke-jr_work i do plenty
01:11 <luke-jr_work> more!
01:11 <DrJoeTron> do you steal luke?
01:12 <luke-jr_work> no
01:12 <Poppet> liar
01:12 <DrJoeTron> totally do
01:12 <|Sticky|> http://worsethanfailure.com/Articles/Utter_Garbage.aspx
01:12 <luke-jr_work> am not
01:12 <luke-jr_work> do not
01:12 <luke-jr_work> 1) copyright infringement isn't stealing
01:12 <luke-jr_work> 2) I don't do it, I just tell you to
01:12 <|Sticky|> tell bill gates that
01:12 <DrJoeTron> thats like saying "go kill this guy"
01:13 <DrJoeTron> "oh i don't kill people, its bad"
01:13 <luke-jr_work> nope
01:13 <DrJoeTron> what would god think of you doing this luke-jr_work?
01:13 <|Sticky|> heh if he told you to jump off a clif would he have commited suicide?
01:13 <luke-jr_work> 1) copyright infringement isn't killing
01:13 <luke-jr_work> 2) I never said it was bad :)
01:13 <DrJoeTron> you said to pirate
01:14 <DrJoeTron> and then ] luke-jr_work: 2) I don't do it, I just tell you to
01:14 <Poppet> God thinks good of Luke-Jr because if he wasnt he'd make luke-jr have spontanious combustion
01:14 <luke-jr_work> DrJoeTron: never said it was wrong to do :p
01:14 <luke-jr_work> just said I don't do it
01:14 <DrJoeTron> luke-jr_work is a symbol that god hates humans
01:14 <luke-jr_work> and I don't do it because I don't want the crap
01:14 <DrJoeTron> i never said killing was bad
01:15 <|Sticky|> there is little need for someone who runs linux to pirate
01:15 <luke-jr_work> [18:13:27] <DrJoeTron> "oh i don't kill people, its bad"
01:15 <|Sticky|> everything (almost) is free anyway
01:15 <luke-jr_work> yay,, |Sticky| has more brains than DrJoeTron  :p
01:15 <Poppet> DrJoeTron: if thats true, then why are there evil dictators that do not show that god hates humans, but theres little old poor Luke-jr
01:15  * luke-jr_work <-- very poor
01:16  * luke-jr_work <-- takes donations
01:16 <luke-jr_work> :p
01:16 <DrJoeTron> because they're heathens
01:16 <DrJoeTron> duh
01:16 <luke-jr_work> they're heretikes!
01:16 <luke-jr_work> :p
01:16 <ghableska> remember everyone, http://cristgaming.com/pirate.swf
01:16 <Poppet> "The best things in life are free, because you dont need to risk being arrested for illegally downloading them"
01:17  * |Sticky| sends luke-jr_work a donation using hyphs card
01:17 <DrJoeTron> ghableska fuck 4chan
01:17 <ghableska> ?
01:17 <DrJoeTron> thats not true
01:17 <DrJoeTron> aids is free
01:17 <Poppet> lmao
01:18 <Poppet> not if you use a prostitute
01:18 <DrJoeTron> does this mean i have to pirate aids?
01:18 <ghableska> heh
01:18 <Poppet> yes
01:18 <DrJoeTron> i hope i can find enough seeds
01:18 <DrJoeTron> sweet i found the dvd rip of it
01:18 <Poppet> #dict Hyphy
01:18 <armabot> Poppet: No definition for "Hyphy" could be found.
01:18 <Poppet> armabot: annoying idiot? :O
01:19 <ghableska> of what?
01:19 <Poppet> Aids?
01:20 <Poppet> DrJoeTron: are you ok? speak to me!!!! slow, deep breaths
01:21 -!- Poppet [n=Tronner@pool-72-75-33-178.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit ["Leaving"]
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01:21 <ghableska> heh
01:21  * Poppet thought either 1) irc chat lost connection 2) Joe died
01:22 <Poppet> |\/\/| This is my crown
01:22 -!- Vanhayes [i=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu83w-156034240229.nb.aliant.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
01:23 <Poppet> you people are awfully quite
01:23 <Poppet> quiet*
01:25 -!- Poppet [n=Tronner@pool-72-75-33-178.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit [Client Quit]
01:25 <|Sticky|> ROOOAAAARRRR
01:25  * ghableska cringes in fear
01:28 <ghableska> hmm
01:28 <ghableska> kubuntu or knoppix?
01:29 <madmax|pt> Are not!
01:29 <spidey> too
01:30 -!- HYPHYRAWRR [n=1805ee63@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has joined #armagetron
01:30 <HYPHYRAWRR> can i argue?
01:30 <HYPHYRAWRR> lets clean some shit up
01:30 <HYPHYRAWRR> shall we
01:31 <HYPHYRAWRR> why did you close a topic about canada
01:31 <HYPHYRAWRR> and not me?
01:31 <HYPHYRAWRR> when he posted perseonal info about me
01:31 <HYPHYRAWRR> and tons of lies
01:31 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p508700B3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)]
01:31 <HYPHYRAWRR> tank 
01:31 <HYPHYRAWRR> you shuold probably respond
01:31 <HYPHYRAWRR> hi manuel moos
01:34 <|Sticky|> hay hyph
01:34 <|Sticky|> on the war path?
01:35 <HYPHYRAWRR> ya
01:35 <HYPHYRAWRR> wanna come
01:36 <HYPHYRAWRR> dammmn canada belives the stupidest shit
01:36 <HYPHYRAWRR> wait up
01:36 <HYPHYRAWRR> i think i shud tell him i killed osama bin laden
01:36 <HYPHYRAWRR> do u think he'll believe it
01:36 <HYPHYRAWRR> proli
01:36 <madmax|pt> you brought the caps outfit
01:36 <HYPHYRAWRR> yep
01:36 <HYPHYRAWRR> view the thread
01:36 <HYPHYRAWRR> and post
01:36 <HYPHYRAWRR> i updated my awesum thread about my undercover life
01:36 <|Sticky|> i cant help but feel you brought this on youre self
01:36 <HYPHYRAWRR> as a fbi agent
01:36 <HYPHYRAWRR> dude i dont care
01:37 <HYPHYRAWRR> i havnt brought anything on myself
01:37 <HYPHYRAWRR> i dont care what he does
01:37 <HYPHYRAWRR> he can't prove something that happened
01:37 <|Sticky|> did you realy tell canada that stuff??
01:37 <HYPHYRAWRR> if it didnt happen
01:37 <HYPHYRAWRR> legit actually steals
01:37 -!- Poppet [n=Tronner@pool-72-75-33-178.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron
01:37 <HYPHYRAWRR> i told him i was gonna spread rmors about legit
01:37 <HYPHYRAWRR> and legit told him
01:37 <HYPHYRAWRR> they made up a plan
01:37 <HYPHYRAWRR> too
01:38 <HYPHYRAWRR> "saying he had a sn named plus"
01:38 <|Sticky|> dont start throwing around more roumors of illegal stuff
01:38 <Poppet> what are you talking about
01:38 <HYPHYRAWRR> i knew he was canada all along
01:38 <HYPHYRAWRR> dawg
01:38 <HYPHYRAWRR> durka gave him his sn
01:38 <HYPHYRAWRR> long time ago
01:38 <HYPHYRAWRR> because they hated each other
01:38 <HYPHYRAWRR> i knew it was himw hen he im'd me
01:38 <HYPHYRAWRR> durka told me to hyphy talk and piss off canada
01:38 <HYPHYRAWRR> so id id it
01:38 <HYPHYRAWRR> durka also tells me to go into servers wit him and make fun of ppl wit new names
01:39 <Poppet> what are you talking about
01:39 <HYPHYRAWRR> canada takes shit too serious
01:39 <HYPHYRAWRR> Canada called me a frauder
01:39 <HYPHYRAWRR> and that i steal credit cards
01:39  * |Sticky| sees the irony
01:39 <HYPHYRAWRR> its funny
01:39 <HYPHYRAWRR> poppet
01:39 <HYPHYRAWRR> let me get thread link
01:39 <HYPHYRAWRR> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=14041
01:39 <Poppet> uhmm ok
01:39 <HYPHYRAWRR> have fun
01:39 <HYPHYRAWRR> post a rpetty picture at end if u want
01:39 <|Sticky|> how old are you hyph??
01:40 <HYPHYRAWRR> i'll tell u in pm
01:40 <|Sticky|> ok
01:40 <HYPHYRAWRR> if u wont tell anyone
01:40 <|Sticky|> i wont
01:40 <HYPHYRAWRR> check yer pms
01:40 <HYPHYRAWRR> wait i'm not reg'd on tron forums
01:40 <HYPHYRAWRR> i mean this server
01:40 <HYPHYRAWRR> so u cant read my pm's
01:40 <HYPHYRAWRR> do u have email or something
01:40 <HYPHYRAWRR> lwlwl
01:41 <|Sticky|> pm on forums
01:41 <HYPHYRAWRR> Hyphy is just a young kid that likes to mess around on the internet and doesn't care about the consequences because there is no way proving what he says is true. Even if he said he steals credit cards, the fact that he says he does it doesn't mean that he really does.
01:41 <HYPHYRAWRR> geez i like durkas reply
01:41 <Poppet> lol
01:41 <HYPHYRAWRR> there is consequences to lying to 12 year olds
01:41 <HYPHYRAWRR> dammmn never knew
01:41 <HYPHYRAWRR> i though the worst you cuold get is a little brat crying about no santa
01:42 <HYPHYRAWRR> never knew he was going to go wit his mommy to cops station to file a report
01:42 <Poppet> dude, can you like post in 1 post instead of saying every sentence as a different post, sorry just a quirk
01:42 <HYPHYRAWRR> sticky check ur pms
01:42 <|Sticky|> k
01:43 <HYPHYRAWRR> sorry i'm use to talking on aim like this
01:43 <HYPHYRAWRR> itez how we dew
01:43 <HYPHYRAWRR> smoke sum blunts bang some chix steal sum credit cards
01:43 <HYPHYRAWRR> we're gangsters till the end
01:43 <HYPHYRAWRR> noimean
01:43 <Poppet> its fine, just annoying when i look at page and see HYPHYRAWRR 90% of the names
01:43 <HYPHYRAWRR> rawr.
01:43 <HYPHYRAWRR> poppet do you believe that i killed osama
01:44 <Poppet> no...:p
01:44 <HYPHYRAWRR> ur such a nube
01:44 <HYPHYRAWRR> because i did
01:44 <Poppet> lol
01:44 <HYPHYRAWRR> after i went hunting for ligers wit my uncle
01:44 <HYPHYRAWRR> i got a liger on my wall ftw
01:44 <Poppet> you know thats against the law
01:44 <HYPHYRAWRR> i dunt care i'm a law breaker
01:44 <HYPHYRAWRR> i ride dirty
01:44 <Poppet> ...
01:44 <Poppet> w/e
01:44 <HYPHYRAWRR> i liek ligers
01:44 <HYPHYRAWRR> they're fluffy
01:44 <HYPHYRAWRR> almost fluffy as canada's flag when its burning
01:45 <|Sticky|> yeah hyph i cant quite get your position.  on one hand you say its all lies then you are quite willing to throw around equaly unsubstantiated accusations.  Then its i dont care but you go mad and rant about all this stuff
01:45 <HYPHYRAWRR> i duno it jus tpisses me off
01:45 <HYPHYRAWRR> its like high school
01:45 <HYPHYRAWRR> rumors
01:45 <Poppet> the post really means nothing, because 98% of the internet is lies
01:45 <HYPHYRAWRR> actually i hunt his brother sumtimes
01:45 <HYPHYRAWRR> hi5
01:46 <DrJoeTron> do you have stairs in your house
01:46 <HYPHYRAWRR> no
01:46 <Poppet> lmao joe
01:46 <HYPHYRAWRR> its one story 
01:46 <HYPHYRAWRR> new itunes update
01:46 <HYPHYRAWRR> wit coreflow
01:46 <HYPHYRAWRR> fullscreen
01:46 <|Sticky|> hyph i think you pride yourself on generating a bad reputation i dont see how you can then get upset when people react
01:46 <HYPHYRAWRR> coverflow
01:47 <HYPHYRAWRR> idk legit is the last person i thought would make that shit up
01:47 <HYPHYRAWRR> hes just pissed because at the ladder i wasn't protecting him
01:47 <HYPHYRAWRR> long time ago
01:47 <Poppet> what ladder
01:47 -!- mode/#armagetron [+oo DrJoeTron ghableska] by ChanServ
01:47 <HYPHYRAWRR> ladle
01:47 <Poppet> ah
01:47 <HYPHYRAWRR> u know how we climb ladles
01:47 <Poppet> yep
01:47 <Poppet> brackets
01:47 <HYPHYRAWRR> rwarrrrr
01:47 <HYPHYRAWRR> i got money in teh bank 
01:47 <HYPHYRAWRR> from stealing ligers
01:47 <HYPHYRAWRR> frmo zoo
01:47 -!- mode/#armagetron [+b HYPHYRAWRR!*@*] by DrJoeTron
01:48 <Poppet> ;p joe
01:48  * [dlh] *
01:48 <Poppet> set a ip ban, that guys annoying
01:48 <@DrJoeTron> thank fucking god
01:49 <Poppet> thank god for joe having the ability to ban annoying people
01:49 <|Sticky|> well look hyph you have 2 choices...get mad and continue this flame war or start changing peoples opinion of you by acting better and perhapse stop being attacked in the future
01:49 <@DrJoeTron> i don't
01:49 <Poppet> what you just did /me
01:49 <Poppet> ?
01:49 <@DrJoeTron> nope
01:49 <Poppet> then what did you do
01:49 <Poppet> magic?
01:49 <@DrJoeTron> [dlh] just gave me op rights
01:49 <Poppet> ah
01:49 <[dlh]> wasn't me.
01:50 <@DrJoeTron> he shows up as gone right?
01:50 <Poppet> Sticky, hes gone ;O
01:50 <Poppet> thank god
01:50 <|Sticky|> naa i can still see him
01:50 <Poppet> w/e
01:50 <[dlh]> I don't know who op'ed you... hmmm
01:50 <|Sticky|> isnt he just silenced??
01:50 -!- HYPHYRAWRR was kicked from #Armagetron by DrJoeTron [Kick]
01:50 <Poppet> lmaoi
01:51 <Poppet> now hes gone! :]
01:51 <luke-jr_work> finally
01:51 <|Sticky|> oh great...he will go buy a nuke now in retaliation for that
01:51 <[dlh]> don't set an IP ban, he was using one of the web front-ends.
01:51 <@DrJoeTron> not like i know how to in the first place
01:51 <Poppet> the nuke will obliterate his reputation down a nother million karma
01:52 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o luke-jr_work] by ChanServ
01:52 <|Sticky|> does this bot have karma??
01:52 <|Sticky|> hyph--
01:52 -!- mode/#armagetron [+b *!n=1805ee63@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] by luke-jr_work
01:52 <|Sticky|> heh no then
01:52 <Lucifer_arma> there's a karma plugin, I don't know that it's loaded
01:52 -!- mode/#armagetron [+b *!n=1805ee63@*] by luke-jr_work
01:52 <|Sticky|> #help karma
01:52 <armabot> |Sticky|: Error: There is no command "karma".
01:52 <@luke-jr_work> that's his IP encoded, right?
01:52 <Poppet> he can just change his ip
01:53 <|Sticky|> not with a web front end
01:53 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o luke-jr_work] by luke-jr_work
01:53 <@DrJoeTron> well fucking christ guys
01:53 <Poppet> or buy a new computer with the money from stolen credit card :O
01:53 <@DrJoeTron> its not like its going to be obvious if he shows up
01:53 <@DrJoeTron> its not*
01:53 <luke-jr_work> I think he's guilty
01:53 <Poppet> he certainly acts like it
01:53 <|Sticky|> let him back...i want some more rant
01:53 <|Sticky|> i enjoy it
01:53 <luke-jr_work> if the chargebacks are successful, I might actually file a report
01:53 <@DrJoeTron> why didnt you guys kick him?
01:53 <Poppet> lol sticky
01:53 <luke-jr_work> just to subpoena his address
01:54 <luke-jr_work> DrJoeTron: I want to get paid
01:54 <madmax|pt> did you just ban people who use the web interface?
01:54 <luke-jr_work> = op someone else who will kick him
01:54 <@DrJoeTron> am i going to be martyrd?
01:54 <Poppet> i'll punch him
01:54 <luke-jr_work> madmax|pt: no, just his IP on the web
01:54 <@DrJoeTron> can i be a perma op :)
01:54 <luke-jr_work> 1805ee63 = his IP
01:54 <luke-jr_work> DrJoeTron: you can be perma voice
01:54 <Poppet> IPs dont have letters do they
01:54 <luke-jr_work> Poppet: depends on how you write it
01:54 <@DrJoeTron> as in silence people?
01:55 <|Sticky|> luke-jr_work: are you trying to reclaim money from hyph?
01:55 <Poppet> well, you could sue him
01:55 <luke-jr_work> sortof
01:55 <Poppet> :P
01:55 <@DrJoeTron> |Sticky| how old is he claim to be
01:56 <luke-jr_work> Poppet: your IP is or 484b21b2 or 1212883378
01:56 <|Sticky|> dispite the fact i dont agree with him i did say i wouldnt tell how old he was so i dnt think i can realy
01:56 <@DrJoeTron> ...you're shitting me
01:56 <luke-jr_work> ...
01:56 <|Sticky|> would make me closer to his level
01:56 <@DrJoeTron> theres no "levels" here
01:56 <luke-jr_work> |Sticky|: his age shouldn't be private info :p
01:56  * luke-jr_work subpoenas |Sticky| 
01:56 <luke-jr_work> Information wants to be free!
01:56 <luke-jr_work> :p
01:57 <luke-jr_work> GPL his age
01:57 <|Sticky|> old enough to know better than to try to impress a 12 year old with big talk
01:57 <@DrJoeTron> 15?
01:57 <luke-jr_work> lol
01:57 <luke-jr_work> tell us it in hex or months :p
01:57 <Poppet> DrJoeTron: Hyphy just makes people think he trusts them, and tells them info that would only be trusted to a friend, and lies about it
01:57 <@DrJoeTron> well no shit
01:57 <|Sticky|> could an admin on the forums read my pm's??
01:58 <@DrJoeTron> he was claiming to be tna for a while
01:58 <luke-jr_work> Poppet: no, he really does steal credit cards I think
01:58 <Poppet> lmao luke
01:58 <luke-jr_work> |Sticky|: you mean guru3 
01:58 <luke-jr_work> Poppet: how else would you explain him paying me with 2 different credit cards with different names?
01:58 <|Sticky|> heh well if someone could read my pms then little i can do to stop you
01:58 <luke-jr_work> and then the charges getting disputed?
01:58 <@DrJoeTron> divorced parents
01:58 <Poppet> if he stole credit cards, he'd have to be smart enough not to fool around trying to impress kids, or he'd be in jail now
01:59 <luke-jr_work> Poppet: kids usually don't tell
01:59 <Poppet> well, usually
01:59 <luke-jr_work> DrJoeTron: I'm betting the 3rd CC had yet another name
01:59 <Poppet> but some arnt clueless i guess... and actually do something :O
01:59 <@DrJoeTron> they could very well be relatives
01:59 <|Sticky|> not divorced parents cards??
01:59 <luke-jr_work> DrJoeTron: and they're disputing the charges?
02:00 <Poppet> |Sticky|: he cant have 3 parents
02:00 <@DrJoeTron> see luke-jr_work you have to fill me in on this information
02:00 <|Sticky|> dipping into parents hand bags??
02:00 <@DrJoeTron> but could have grand parents
02:00 <luke-jr_work> also explain why I ask for his address to confirm the charges, and he ASSUMES I'm trying to trap him
02:00 <luke-jr_work> also DrJoeTron 
02:00 <@DrJoeTron> hey hey, im not trying to completely defend him
02:00 <luke-jr_work> using parents' cards is still CC fraud
02:00 <luke-jr_work> legally
02:01 <|Sticky|> yeah
02:01 <@DrJoeTron> if its not to the parents knowledge
02:01 <luke-jr_work> yes, even then
02:01 <Poppet> DrJoeTron is just playing devils advicate, and at that, it points out how unlikely it is
02:01 <luke-jr_work> only the person with the name on the card can use it
02:01 <|Sticky|> although depending on your age i presume quite often you would be a minor
02:02 <@DrJoeTron> |Sticky| exactly
02:02 <@DrJoeTron> speakin gof
02:02 <@DrJoeTron> hold old is he
02:02 <@DrJoeTron> :o
02:02 <luke-jr_work> maybe I should ask customers their age and require permission from parents or such :/
02:02 <Poppet> well, Luke-Jr, not exactly, because if that were true, then there would be no identity theft
02:02 <@DrJoeTron> that would be pretty fucking important
02:02 <@DrJoeTron> dealing with 15 year olds isn't exactly a good way to run a business involving CC's
02:03 <luke-jr_work> I noticed
02:03 <Poppet> the truth is people dont want to waste their time trying to find the 1 wrong out of 1000, thats why at say, airports, they dont check everyone
02:03 <|Sticky|> yeah but if you have a valid credid card you kinda have to assume they are old enough to own one
02:03 <luke-jr_work> airports are fun
02:03 <luke-jr_work> I refuse to show my ID :D
02:04 <@ghableska> whoa
02:04 <@ghableska> I'm ops :o
02:04 <luke-jr_work> lol
02:04 <Poppet> you can be a minor with a credit card, but you need an ID from an older guardian, thats why i doubt hyphy is 15, or his guardian would know he was breaking the law
02:04 <|Sticky|> hyph just wips out an array of ids..."which one would you like sir£
02:04 <Poppet> lol
02:04 <luke-jr_work> Poppet: erm, no
02:04 <luke-jr_work> Poppet: it's actually illegal for a company to ask for ID to use a credit card
02:05 <luke-jr_work> nevermind that many do anyway
02:05 <Poppet> who exactly is he buying from anyways
02:05 <luke-jr_work> me
02:05 <@DrJoeTron> its also illegal for places to take money off of gift cards :o
02:05 <luke-jr_work> DrJoeTron: wtf?
02:05 <@DrJoeTron> as in to depreciate the card
02:05 <luke-jr_work> ...
02:05 <@DrJoeTron> yeah you've never heard of people doing that?
02:05 <luke-jr_work> no
02:05 <@DrJoeTron> companies that hand out gift certificates
02:06 <|Sticky|> heh well considering money on the whole devalues over time i cant see it being an issue
02:06 <Poppet> why would hyphy buy gift certificates
02:06 <@DrJoeTron> some of them think its cute to try and take the money back if you don't use the gift card within a year
02:06 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o ghableska] by ghableska
02:06 <@DrJoeTron> which is illegal to do now
02:06 <ghableska> oh
02:06 <luke-jr_work> DrJoeTron: erm, why shouldn't a company be able to expire a coupon?
02:07 <@DrJoeTron> because you already spent money on money
02:07 <|Sticky|> depends if its a coupon or something you have sold like in a voucher
02:07 <Poppet> why do people make you spend money on money
02:07 <luke-jr_work> you said "hand out"
02:07 <@DrJoeTron> they usually are
02:07 <@DrJoeTron> Poppet they're called gift cards 
02:07 <@DrJoeTron> for retail stores
02:07 <Poppet> its pointless, but less general than giving money
02:07 <@DrJoeTron> its for people who don't know what to get their kids for their birthday so they get them a giftcard
02:07 <@DrJoeTron> which is retarded
02:08 <|Sticky|> its like giving money...only worse
02:08 <@DrJoeTron> yeah
02:08 <Poppet> well
02:08 <@DrJoeTron> exactly
02:08 <Poppet> if you give someone money, then thats giving the impression you thing they're poor
02:08 <ghableska> o_O
02:08 <luke-jr_work> wtf?
02:08 <Poppet> think*
02:08 <@DrJoeTron> maybe with you
02:08 <ghableska> umm
02:08 <|Sticky|> one step above we have donated to a charity in your name
02:08 <ghableska> what it's a *gift*?
02:08 <@DrJoeTron> yeah man
02:08 <@DrJoeTron> its a gift
02:09 <@DrJoeTron> happy birthday!
02:09 <luke-jr_work> I'm poor
02:09 <luke-jr_work> so you all should give me money
02:09 <luke-jr_work> :p
02:09 <Poppet> but that would be odd if a beggar begged for gift cards
02:09 <@DrJoeTron> oh.,.. you got me money....
02:09 <@DrJoeTron> you poor son of a bitch!
02:09  * ghableska gives luke-jr_ Armagetron Advanced
02:09 <@DrJoeTron> hahahaha
02:09  * Poppet wins the internet
02:09 <luke-jr_work> that was a fun game
02:09 <@DrJoeTron> ugh...what is this 2.7!?
02:09 <luke-jr_work> let's play again
02:09 <ghableska> look, now you don't have to feel like paying me back :p
02:09 <@DrJoeTron> get it out of here!
02:09 <luke-jr_work> ghableska: paying YOU back???
02:10 <ghableska> of course...
02:10 <luke-jr_work> ghableska: how much of my bandwidth did you use to get it yourself??
02:10 <Poppet> #q
02:10 <luke-jr_work> :p
02:10 <armabot> Poppet: Quote #42: "The future doesn't belong to the fainthearted; it belongs to the brave. - Ronald Reagen, in his address following the explosion of the space shuttle Challenger" (added by Lucifer_arma at 02:03 PM, January 02, 2007)
02:10 <ghableska> :p
02:10 <@DrJoeTron> i got cat hair stuck up my nose
02:10 <luke-jr_work> lol
02:10 <@DrJoeTron> its driving me crazy
02:10 <Poppet> wtf
02:10 <|Sticky|> think of luke-jr_work's real victims: http://members.aol.com/erichuf/OSS2.jpg
02:10 <ghableska> cats are strange
02:11 <@DrJoeTron> i love my cat :3
02:11 <luke-jr_work> lol
02:11 <Poppet> dogs > cats
02:11 <@DrJoeTron> my cat acts like a dog
02:11 <Poppet> cats are for people that cant afford dogs
02:11 <ghableska> heh
02:11 <luke-jr_work> cats++
02:11 <ghableska> C++ o_O
02:11 <luke-jr_work> dogs are annoying
02:11 <|Sticky|> send money to luke's family
02:11 <@DrJoeTron> Poppet thats the stupid thing i've ever heard of
02:11 <Poppet> your annoying
02:11 <ghableska> dogs slobber
02:11 <Poppet> your right, i got 2 cats and a dog O_o
02:12 <Poppet> lol
02:12 <ghableska> *they're
02:12 <@DrJoeTron> ghableska im glad you decided to pick of all typo's i made, you picked that one
02:12 <ghableska> :d
02:13 <@DrJoeTron> my cat plays fetch :d
02:13 <ghableska> does it know how to use the toilet?
02:13 <@DrJoeTron> it knows how to play with it
02:13 <luke-jr_work> we should invite hyphy back
02:13 <luke-jr_work> he was more entertaining
02:13 <ghableska> heh
02:14  * ghableska forces luke-jr_work to juggle for us
02:14 <@DrJoeTron> i only kicked him
02:14 <Poppet> http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1780166
02:14 <luke-jr_work> you banned him first
02:14 <@DrJoeTron> howcome it didnt friggin kick him then
02:14 <@DrJoeTron> it just put himon silence
02:15 <ghableska> he's still here? o_O
02:15 <|Sticky|> #lastseen hyph
02:15 <armabot> |Sticky|: Hyphy Leopard has last been seen on  Wild West  =Sumo= 58 minutes ago.
02:15 <luke-jr_work> kick != ban
02:15 <ghableska> #seen hyph
02:15 <armabot> ghableska: I have not seen hyph.
02:15 <|Sticky|> dam cant go get him
02:15 <@DrJoeTron> http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1780176
02:16 <Poppet> http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1780180
02:17 <luke-jr_work> [19:11:01] <|Sticky|> think of luke-jr_work's real victims: http://members.aol.com/erichuf/OSS2.jpg
02:17 <luke-jr_work> where did you get that link?
02:17 <|Sticky|> i seem to remember cant ops redirect you to another chat room...if he comes back send him to arma-rant so i can go listen
02:18 <|Sticky|> think it was on http://www.linuxsucks.org/
02:18 <|Sticky|> http://www.linuxsucks.org/ for all your rage needs
02:18 <Poppet> http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1780186
02:18 <|Sticky|> "Linus Torvalds - Puppy Bestiality Enthusiast and Self-Described White Supremacist "
02:18 <@DrJoeTron> im scrolling through all of these
02:19 <|Sticky|> luke-jr_work: but i found it again through: http://chump.infoanarchy.org/2003/03/04/index.rss
02:20 <|Sticky|> luke-jr_work: but you should read linuxsucks.org for a good laugh
02:20 <Poppet> who cares about that, lets get hyphy to come back, and everyone be silent until he gets bored
02:20 <|Sticky|> need to find him first
02:20 <Poppet> ;p
02:20 <|Sticky|> unlock the thread so he can rand on the forum
02:20 <|Sticky|> #lastseen hyph
02:20 <armabot> |Sticky|: Hyphy Leopard has last been seen on  Wild West  =Sumo= 0 days 1 hours 3 minutes ago.
02:21 <Poppet> #uberinsult Hyphy
02:21 <armabot> You're not even the void in Plus's head
02:21 <|Sticky|> plus...is that canada??
02:21 <Poppet> according to the thread on forums 
02:22 <|Sticky|> wow hyph has been busy posting in the last hour
02:22 <Poppet> post link
02:22 <Poppet> wanna see his mindless rants
02:23 <|Sticky|> attack on z-man: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=14021&highlight=
02:23 <luke-jr_work> the reason Free software is good is because it is pro-monopoly
02:23 <luke-jr_work> in a sense
02:24 <|Sticky|> rather bizzare to accuse an open source programmer of lining their wallet(in referance to hyph's post)
02:24  * luke-jr_work considers a reply to piss hyphy off
02:24  * luke-jr_work will do it :D
02:25 <@DrJoeTron> what does voice involve?
02:25 <@DrJoeTron> do i get to silence people?
02:25 <ghableska> hyphy has more posts than myself :o
02:26 <|Sticky|> hang on hyph: "Simon has spoken"...is this his name??
02:26 <luke-jr_work> "I'm planning to modify the Arma server to require logins. I will release it to the community for $500, or to an individual for $50."
02:26 <Poppet> hyphy posted on Canada's post about Hyphy
02:26 <luke-jr_work> think that'll work?
02:26 <ghableska> huh?
02:27 <Poppet> Luke, that doesnt make sense at all O_o
02:27 <|Sticky|> hmm im a bit unsure about clicking is the link hyph has put at the end of http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=14041&start=15 safe for work??
02:27 <madmax|pt> wasn't hyphy happy just a while ago?
02:27 <ghableska> if you can call it that...
02:28 <luke-jr_work> Poppet: no?
02:28 <madmax|pt> well, happy in a twisted hyphy version of course
02:28 <ghableska> heh
02:28 <Poppet> lol
02:29 <Poppet> Luke-Jr_work: no what
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05:37 -!- Irssi: #armagetron: Total of 16 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal]
05:37 <armabot> I love you more than ice cream!
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> ty armabot
05:38 -!- Irssi: Join to #armagetron was synced in 21 secs
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> I love you too
05:38 <GodTodd> she's saying that to wrtl :P
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> then she should be more specific!
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> armabot: you're a slut
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> not that that's a bad thing :)
05:39 <|Sticky|> now while I agree that the specific forms of drm that you have mentioned are bad does it realy then extend that all subsequent froms will also be.  after all eliminating an entire genre of software from use is faily contry to the open nature of foss
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> why don't you just hire a policeman to follow you around and make sure you don't shoplift?
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> is that reasonable?
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> do you trust yourself not to shoplift if the cop isn't there?
05:41 <|Sticky|> actualy i work on automated surveillance systems
05:41 <|Sticky|> heh
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know about you, but if someone calls me a thief because I considered buying something from them, I don't buy anything from them
05:41 <GodTodd> does the library make you keep the book there while you read?
05:41 <GodTodd> AFTER having bought the book?
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> the question is, does drm provide the benefits to society that copyright requires?
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> is there any possible implementation of drm that would provide those benefits?
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> now, eric flint took it a step further, hang on while I dig up a link
05:42 <|Sticky|> but removing safeguards on the premis that i may not try to violate them is a fairly weak argument
05:42 <GodTodd> sure...i couldn't envision a society when a rock star can't have his hummer *and* his fountain/pool...
05:42 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: some company embeds video cameras in their product boxes and tracks you around
05:43 <GodTodd> i throw boxes away ;)
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> http://preview.baens-universe.com/articles/salvos6
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> I really believe luke's crackpot theories
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> Sticky: you seem to subscribe to the belief that all people will steal, given the chance
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> read eric flint's article
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> he does the topic much more justice than I ever could
05:44 <GodTodd> yeah...it all depends on if you see man as basically good and ethical or basically bad
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> I've also poured my wallet into Baen Books
05:44 <luke-jr_> http://www.boycottgillette.com/
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.blackpeoplearereal.com/
05:45 <Lucifer_arma> er
05:45 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.blackpeopleexist.org/
05:45 <|Sticky|> i dont believe that all people will steal but the argument that you should giving people the opportunity to steal even though they may not is a bit weird
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> did you read eric flint's article?
05:46 <|Sticky|> not yet
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> read it right now
05:46 <|Sticky|> hang on
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> don't say anything else on the subject until then :)
05:46 <luke-jr_> |Sticky|: you realize DRM costs money, right?
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_: if you haven't read eric flint's article, go read it
05:46 <luke-jr_> read it a long time ago
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> so you can make more sense yourself on the subject and hopefully sound less like a crackpot
05:47 <luke-jr_> maybe you should stop denying physical DRM's existence ;)
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> the school bookstore recently rearranged
05:47 <|Sticky|> im actualy not realy a fan of drm i just thought the exclusion in gpl is a bit weird
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> they used to have the checkout line where it caused maximum inconvenience for customers so they could make sure nobody stole anything
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> now they've rearranged it so you can easily go in and out
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> I guess having the opportunity to steal is a bit weird, isn't it?
05:48 <Your_mom_arma> "luke-jr_: Lucifer_arma: some company embeds video cameras in their product boxes and tracks you around." can you show me an example luke-jr?
05:49 <GodTodd> shush mom...don't ask him that :P
05:52 <|Sticky|> well me has to go to bed so will have to finnish reading that artical tomorrow...Rest assured i am not realy advocating drm, just like a good discussion
05:54 <|Sticky|> cyall later
05:54 -!- |Sticky| [n=kvirc@80-41-80-185.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit ["KVIrc 3.2.4 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/"]
05:58 <Lucifer_arma> he might link to geocentrism again
06:03  * GodTodd wonders if the 'free library' idea would work for his own novel.
06:03 <luke-jr_> Your_mom_arma: already did
06:03 <luke-jr_> http://www.boycottgillette.com/
06:09 <Vanhayes> gillette as in razors?
06:14 <Your_mom_arma> fyi rfid tags dont have cameras in them
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> grrr
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> lost track of years
06:15 <Your_mom_arma> and the site basically says that picking up and buying the product with said rfid will make security cameras take pictures of you, which in more or less every case they are already doing
06:16 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.belredweb.com/  <-- this site load for anybody?
06:16 <Your_mom_arma> loads for me
06:16 <Lucifer_arma> can you get a mailing address off it?
06:16 <Lucifer_arma> and phone number?
06:17 <GodTodd> 219 1st Ave S. Suite 220
06:17 <GodTodd> Seattle, WA 98104
06:17 <GodTodd> 800-610-5930
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> thanks
06:18 <Your_mom_arma> GodTodd beat me to the punch
06:18 <GodTodd> np
06:18 <GodTodd> mom: :P
06:19 <Your_mom_arma> i dont understand what luke-jr_ has against rfid
06:20 <Your_mom_arma> also good luck keeping track of someone with something detectable from only 20 feet away
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> that site still hasn't loaded for me, heh
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> Your_mom_arma: if rfid sensors are everywhere, it's theoretically possible to track a person's movement
06:21 <GodTodd> gonna get ahold of nick and them again? or just a reference? ;)
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.engagent.com/newsite/aboutus.htm  <--- how about a phone number from here?
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> it's borked in firefox :(
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: need it on an aplpication
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> no, nick can go fuck himself
06:23 <GodTodd> i figured
06:23 <GodTodd> heh
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> I'd erase that part of my life if I could
06:23 <GodTodd>  Toll-free: (877) 820-7980
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> ironically, it was right after that that I started playing this stupid game, maybe you heard of it?  Armagetron...
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> thanks again :)
06:24 <GodTodd> this is what appears to be the borked one:  In Washington state: (425) 485-8754
06:24 <GodTodd> interestingly...i didn't see don on the bel-red employees list
06:25 <GodTodd> er...wait...you might have told me a while back about him having a falling out with nick too
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> he's not on the employees list, afaik
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> he's got his own job
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> well, he didnt.  See, he was the Best Man at the wedding, stole the wife (years later), but is somehow "trusted"
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> those guys are sooo fucked up
06:26 <GodTodd> haha
06:26 <GodTodd> that's right...i remember now :)
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> if my wife left me for Don, and he took her, he'd only ever see me again facing the wrong end of a gun
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> I guess I'm weird, you know, expecting my friends to have some basic manners and stuff
06:27 <GodTodd> if my wife left me for don, i'd have to question her taste personally
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> well, she did marry me first, after all, how good could her taste be?  ;)
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> (not your wife, mine!)
06:27 <GodTodd> bahaha
06:28 <GodTodd> that's just cuz you landed her when she was young and malleable :P
06:28 <GodTodd> heh
06:30 <GodTodd> so, the gillette thing....does that mean you are breaking some rule or get blacklisted or something if you pick up a razor, get your picture taken, then put it back and don't get 'snapped' at the register?
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, where did I work before Jiffy Lube?
06:42  * Lucifer_arma tries to remember
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> was it Sonic?
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> (this was a long time ago)
06:43  * GodTodd doesn't know :/
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> it was sonic, but I don't remember even what I made
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> this is the most annoying song with the nicest little vocal riff
06:44 <GodTodd> what song?
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> Pretenders - Back on the Chain Gang
06:44 <GodTodd> ah
06:44 <GodTodd> yeah
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> I love it when she goes "Oh oh oh oh oh oh"
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> sounds really nice :)
06:44 <GodTodd> heh
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> otherwise, the song really annoys me
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> it's annoying me now, heh
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> so Crazy Train :)
06:45 <GodTodd> an annoying 80s song?
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, what I came in here for
06:45 <GodTodd> perish the thought!
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> #g 6.30 * 40 * 52
06:45 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 6.30 * 40 * 52 = 13,104
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> damn
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> I lived on that?!?!?
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> ironically, I still remember the address :)
06:46 <GodTodd> before 3 kids, i'd wager
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, it's where I was working when I met that 15yo slut girl
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> she was hot, man, hot
06:46 <GodTodd> haha
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> nothing but trouble, though
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> don't remember the phone number
06:47 <GodTodd> yeah...i think my first job in AZ i made 6.50 or so
06:47 <GodTodd> that was decent when single
06:47 <GodTodd> heh
06:47 <GodTodd> and 12.5 years ago ;)
06:48 <GodTodd> #g 10.43 * 40 * 52
06:48 <armabot> GodTodd: 10.43 * 40 * 52 = 21,694.4
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> happen to know what year I moved back to Austin?  heh
06:48  * Lucifer_arma has to straighten out the dates now
06:49 <GodTodd> i'd have to look on your webpage archives
06:49  * GodTodd hints.
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> heh
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah!
06:49 <GodTodd> the crapper articles talk about it i think
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> archives aren't accurate enough
06:50 <GodTodd> ah
06:50 <GodTodd> hrmm
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> problem is, there was a website restore in there somewhere, and I picked random dates for older stuff
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> wait a minute, I can work this out
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> I'm in calc 4 now, right?
06:50 <GodTodd> yeah
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> calc 1 was last spring
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> algebra was the spring before that
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> so two years ago I started my first semester
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> that would be 2005, right?
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> came here in August of 2004 :)
06:51 <GodTodd> yeah...i seem to remember it was 6-9 months before i came down
06:51 <GodTodd> and i moved here on april fools day 2005
06:52 <Lucifer_arma> ok, dates are right now :)
06:53  * GodTodd hates reconstructing what turns into a fairly sad, unimpressive life.
06:53 <GodTodd> heh
06:53 <Lucifer_arma> oh good, essay questions now :)
06:54 <GodTodd> bullshitting time? ;)
06:56  * GodTodd wonders if people would pay a small amount for a bound copy of his book...hmmm
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> Systems development using analysis, design and documentation methodologies  <--- er, wtf is that?
07:00 <GodTodd> programming?
07:01 <GodTodd> HR for "code-monkey"?
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> that's what I thought, but how the hell am I supposed to respond to that?
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> er, nvm, I got something
07:01 <GodTodd> heh
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07:03 <Lucifer_arma> Analyzing and organizing technical data?  wtf?
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> "SELECT * FROM technical_data"
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> how hard can it be?
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07:08 <Lucifer_arma> finished, with 22 minutes to spare
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> (their system goes down at 12:30am for no good reason)
07:08 <GodTodd> heh
07:09 <Lucifer_arma> last time I got cut off by the 12:30am deadline, heh
07:09 <Lucifer_arma> had to do it all over from the start
07:09 <Lucifer_arma> my wife's stepmother works in HR for TxDOT and keeps making "Hurry up and apply here" noises
07:09 <GodTodd> haha
07:09 <Lucifer_arma> it's kind of a no-brainer, really
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> it's just that it takes 2 hours to fill out the damn application :(
07:10 <GodTodd> is that before or after the blood and sperm samples?
07:10 <GodTodd> ;)
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> before
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> actually, it's a pee sample they're going to want
07:10 <GodTodd> not hair?
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> I told my wife if I fail a drug test at this point, we're really fucked
07:11 <GodTodd> a lot of places want hair anymore
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> not hair
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> my hair should be clean anyway, it's been a looooong time
07:11 <GodTodd> you know...i've never done weed
07:11 <GodTodd> sometimes i think about that and wonder why
07:11 <GodTodd> heh
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> just hardcore shit?
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> man, don't tell me you've gone and had a fucked up life without doing any drugs
07:12 <GodTodd> yeah...once you hit the eightball a roach just seems anticlimactic ;)
07:12 <GodTodd> haven't done anything harder than nicotine and alcohol
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> really?
07:12 <GodTodd> really
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> well, congrats :)
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> drug addictions suck :(
07:13 <GodTodd> so i've heard
07:13 <Lucifer_arma> they suck more when you think you knew better beforehand, heh
07:13 <GodTodd> kinda like smoking 
07:13 <GodTodd> heh
07:13 <Lucifer_arma> I gotta admit though, one thing pot really did for me was enable me to finally hear the keyboards in all those bon jovi songs
07:14 <Lucifer_arma> so I'm not quite the bon jovi freak I used to be (don't tell Your_mom!), but I enjoy them a lot now
07:14 <Lucifer_arma> and I'm happy about that :)
07:14 <GodTodd> heh
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07:16  * Lucifer_arma is listening to a bon jovi song
07:16 <GodTodd> which one?
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> Only Lonely
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> one of the more boring ones, actually
07:16 <GodTodd> hrmmm
07:16 <GodTodd> not sure i remember that one
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> it's on 7800 degrees Fahrenheit
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> you know what?  Queensryche singing Dust in the Wind really sucks, I should delete this song
07:17 <GodTodd> haha
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> oooo, Suite SIster Mary
07:17 <GodTodd> mindcrime rocks
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> I'm going to wind up listening to the whole record tonight, bet
07:18 <GodTodd> i bet
07:18 <Lucifer_arma> happens every time
07:18 <GodTodd> it's that type of record
07:18 <GodTodd> hrmmm....dunno if anyone would pay 15$ for a bound copy of my book :/
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> it's a better record when you can shout out the lyrics
07:19 <GodTodd> definitely
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> you really need to try to get it into a publisher
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> sorry :(
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> the problem with self-publishing is that a) no exposure in regular book stores (i.e. the places people *look*), and b) you don't really know if the book is actually marketable
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> you're too close to the subject here
07:20 <GodTodd> i know :/ was trying to shortcut....guess it's not to be heh
07:20 <GodTodd> i know
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> now, I'd like to see you get with Baen, and I'd really like to write my own novel and try to get Baen to take it :)
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> but Eric Flint says he figures he wrote ~500,000 words before he finally sold a book
07:20 <GodTodd> they're just scifi tho, right?
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> fantasy too
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> but they're anti-DRM :)
07:20 <GodTodd> fantasy i could probably do
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> hence why I've managed to pour my wallet into them
07:21 <GodTodd> yeah...i figure dreamcatcher will probably never sell (or it'll end up being printed in 20 years as a 'lost manuscript')
07:21 <GodTodd> heh
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> heh
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> you know, I've been waking up in a sweat lately, and the other morning I started wondering what I was doing in the middle of the night...
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> (the sweat is from exercising, though)
07:22 <GodTodd> did you have blood on your hands?
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> no, no blood
07:22 <GodTodd> ah
07:22 <GodTodd> damn
07:22 <GodTodd> :)
07:23 <GodTodd> ok....i'm resolved....i'm harrassing the agent market again during spring break
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> do it!
07:25 <spidey> ..
07:25 <GodTodd> haven't had a rejection in close to 5 months
07:25 <GodTodd> need more ;)
07:26 <GodTodd> wow...i didn't realize jim baen died...
07:28 <Lucifer_arma> yeah :(
07:29 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: !
07:29 <spidey> ?
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07:30 <Lucifer_arma> want to help run a fortress league?
07:30 <spidey> ?
07:31 <spidey> don't ask to much
07:31 <spidey> i've got a really bad headache
07:31 <spidey> anytime i think it hurts
07:31 <spidey> >:|
07:31 <Lucifer_arma> what else is new?
07:31 <spidey> ..
07:33 <GodTodd> so you're not in pain?
07:33 <@DrJoeTron> i just saw ghost rider
07:33 <GodTodd> does that mean you're the next to die?
07:34 <@DrJoeTron> i died in the theatre
07:34 <@DrJoeTron> considering nicholas cage just mumbled through out the entire fucking movie
07:34 <GodTodd> no...that was the pain of them pulling your wallet out your asshole
07:34 <@DrJoeTron> its chained to my pocket :/
07:34 <GodTodd> hence the "dying" pain
07:35 <GodTodd> name a movie nicholas cage spoke clearly in....that's like asking sylvester stallone to enunciate
07:36 <GodTodd> or william shatner to 'turn it down a notch'
07:36 <GodTodd> or jim carrey to get the fuck off my screen
07:36 <@DrJoeTron> yeah 
07:36 <@DrJoeTron> but
07:36 <@DrJoeTron> he reallly mumbled this time
07:37 <GodTodd> what do you expect...his head is on fire, man 
07:37 <GodTodd> heh
07:37 <@DrJoeTron> NO
07:37 <@DrJoeTron> see
07:37 <@DrJoeTron> thats the thing
07:37 <@DrJoeTron> he talked more clear when he was on fire
07:37 <@DrJoeTron> GUILTY!!
07:37 <@DrJoeTron> INNOCENT!!!
07:37 <GodTodd> maybe it opened the passageway?
07:37 <@DrJoeTron> LOOK IN TO MY EYES!
07:37 <Lucifer_arma> aaaaaggggggggggghhhhhhhHH!!!!!!!!!!
07:37 <Lucifer_arma> me eyes!  my eyes!
07:38 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o Lucifer_arma] by ChanServ
07:38 <@Lucifer_arma>  /kick DrJoeTron (hi there!) 
07:38 <@Lucifer_arma> phew
07:38 <@DrJoeTron> aw :/
07:38 <@Lucifer_arma> barely managed to pull the punch joe
07:38 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o DrJoeTron] by Lucifer_arma
07:38 <GodTodd> LWLZ!!!111!!
07:38 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o Lucifer_arma] by Lucifer_arma
07:38 <DrJoeTron> who gave me mod rights?
07:38 <DrJoeTron> was it luke?
07:38 <Lucifer_arma> beats me, but I had to take them before you retaliated
07:39 <DrJoeTron> i wouldnt do such a thing :)
07:39 <GodTodd> joe? abuse power?
07:39 <GodTodd> laughable
07:39 <GodTodd> ;)
07:39 <DrJoeTron> only arma servers do i destroy
07:39 <GodTodd> all your arma servers are belong to joe?
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> better g change my password....
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> hey joe, so youre willing to help run a fortress league, you're just not sure how much effort you'll give it?
07:40 <Lucifer_arma> can I take that to mean that after I do all the real work, you'll be so excited that you'll take over from there?
07:40 <DrJoeTron> possibly
07:40 <DrJoeTron> if you show me what i need to do
07:40 <Lucifer_arma> well, here's the thing
07:40 <GodTodd> hrmm...wonder if baen would let me choose joe to do cover artwork.... heh
07:40  * wrtlprnft thinks hyphyleo should be given admin rights on all servers
07:40 <Lucifer_arma> I'll probably do the schedule myself and then ask people to help with the raw dataentry
07:40 <Lucifer_arma> you know, on the wiki
07:41 <DrJoeTron> ok
07:41  * spidey bitchslaps wrtlprnft 
07:41 <Lucifer_arma> then you just need to mediate problems and help track game results, answer questions, make judgements on rules
07:41 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: wanna help run a fortress league?
07:41 <wrtlprnft> of what gind?
07:41 <wrtlprnft> *kind
07:41 <Lucifer_arma> regular season followed by playoffs, ending in a championship?
07:41 <wrtlprnft> and i'll need to leave in 5 minutes 43 seconds
07:42 <DrJoeTron> i can do that no problem
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> basically, we take the spoon, add the stuff that woudl fix it, and run a league :)
07:42 <DrJoeTron> i'd need you to check in from time to time :p
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> I will.  :)  It's just that over the time period, especially if we hit a point where we're running a season all the time, I'm going to disappear from time to time
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> so I want enough people involved at the top to keep it going is all
07:43 <DrJoeTron> ok
07:43 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: talk to me about that later, I have to go. But I'm generally interested
07:43 <DrJoeTron> yay
07:43 <DrJoeTron> im tip top
07:43 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: ko
07:43 <DrJoeTron> speaking of
07:43 <DrJoeTron> what have i really even become to this community
07:43 <Lucifer_arma> besides the dick mod on shrunkland?
07:44  * spidey agrees
07:44 <DrJoeTron> you guys would cry for at least 3 days if i died :V
07:44 <Lucifer_arma> you sayin' I'm emo?!?!?
07:44 <wrtlprnft> the mspaint expert
07:44 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o Lucifer_arma] by ChanServ
07:44 <@Lucifer_arma>  /kick DrJoeTron (hi there!) 
07:44 <@Lucifer_arma> phew
07:44 <@Lucifer_arma> another close call, joe
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07:44 <DrJoeTron> i cant die
07:45 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v DrJoeTron] by ChanServ
07:45 <+DrJoeTron> cause im the ghost rider
07:45 <+DrJoeTron> what does this even do?
07:45 <+DrJoeTron> do i mute people?
07:45 <wrtlprnft> it does about nothing in this channel
07:45 <wrtlprnft> it's just a totally useless plus sign in front of your name
07:45 <Lucifer_arma> I get a drooling yellow smiley face
07:45 <+DrJoeTron> you're just jealouus is all
07:45 <wrtlprnft> but it makes you feel like you have something everyone else doesn'T
07:46  * wrtlprnft is gone now
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> we should run a miniature season in July, with the top 4 teams doing a little knockout tournament in August
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> then start a regular season in the middle of September
07:48 <+DrJoeTron> hmm
07:49 <+DrJoeTron> what  would this league be called
07:49 <+DrJoeTron> what if you guys made a tournament client
07:49 <+DrJoeTron> it'd connect to a specific master server
07:50 <+DrJoeTron> and have a splash screen mspainted
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> heh
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> I don't see why not, except that there's something implied there
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know what it would be called, really
07:53 <+DrJoeTron> gee ya think?
07:54 <Lucifer_arma> no, what's implied is the work to setup an alternate set of servers that talk to a special master server
07:54 <Lucifer_arma> for me to host this master server, I'd need to take down the one I host for everyone else :/
07:54 <+DrJoeTron> i could host that master server
07:54 <Lucifer_arma> so someone else would need to host it...
07:54 <+DrJoeTron> like having it be hosted every league
07:54 <Lucifer_arma> then we need to get server admins that want to join the league to add a line to their file reporting to it
07:54 <Lucifer_arma> z-man: you kicking?
07:54 <+DrJoeTron> yup
07:56 <+DrJoeTron> i mean it kind of seems redundant
07:56 <+DrJoeTron> but this way you could have it so its completely isolated
07:56 <Lucifer_arma> not terribly
07:56 <Lucifer_arma> see, here's something
07:56 <+DrJoeTron> and doesnt have morons coming in and out
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> someone came up with the idea of running a web app that users had to login to get it to open the firewall to join a server
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> it was ishAdmin, I think
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> if that were implemented at the master server for the league, then you have to login to the league
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> a lot of admins could start up alternate servers with alternate configurations pretty easily *for* the league
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> I could.  :)
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> so we could build our own server packages for the league, too, that come preconfigured for the league
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> so it's not that far-fetched, but there is work to be done in there
07:58 <+DrJoeTron> hmmm
08:00 <+DrJoeTron> i could possibly do some hosting
08:00 <+DrJoeTron> i mean im sure i could process more than just the cage
08:00 <+DrJoeTron> on my server
08:01 <+DrJoeTron> shit
08:01 <+DrJoeTron> wait
08:01 <+DrJoeTron> do i need linux to run a master?
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> don't know, I don't know if it's ever been built for windows
08:01 <+DrJoeTron> yeah....
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> now would be a good time for z-man (hi there!) to appear and tell us about the limitations of the master server
08:04  * Lucifer_arma casts "Summon Z-Man"
08:21  * GodTodd wonders how many points will be counted off his program if he doesn't put in the unnecessary methods...
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> I'll post with what we've got so far and see if we can get some discussion, but if we're going to run a short season in July, we'll need to move pretty quickly from now
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> basically we'll need to be able to get signups done by mid-June at the latest, probably first week of June, so the schedule can be made before July
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> if there's a lot of teams, signups should actually be finished mid-May
08:38 <+DrJoeTron> i see
08:45 <Lucifer_arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=149541#149541
08:47 <+DrJoeTron> all i have to hope is that my ip doesn't change
08:47 <+DrJoeTron> since it seems to do that alot
08:48 <+DrJoeTron> i sure know alot for knowing nothing ":D
08:50 <Lucifer_arma> you can get a noip thingee, and I can make a consistent hostnme for you with a simple cname
08:51 <Lucifer_arma> wow, 3 reads already.  Are they all from people in here?  ;)
08:51 <+DrJoeTron> i clicked
08:51 <Lucifer_arma> one is me, obviously
08:52 <z-man> sorry, I'm too lazy to follow the discussion here, so I'll just post :)
08:52 <+DrJoeTron> hey z-man
08:53 <+DrJoeTron> well actually there is a question here
08:53 <+DrJoeTron> is there a windows build of the master server?
08:54 <z-man> There is a project and it builds, but it's not distributed.
08:54 <+DrJoeTron> thats the thing
08:54 <+DrJoeTron> if it could be distributed to me for this league deal.
08:55 <z-man> But the port the master server runs on is not hardcoded, you know? Anyone already running a master can just run another one.
08:55 <+DrJoeTron> they could, but why would they want to
08:57 <Lucifer_arma> well, hmmmm
08:57 <Lucifer_arma> if we're going to send out a special client for the league, then we could have that client use the right port for this master server :)
08:58 <z-man> The port is in master.cfg, regular clients can already use an alternative port. Read my forum response :)
08:59 <z-man> DrJoeTron: well, me and Lucifer are two of the people already running masters, so why wouldn't we want to?
08:59 <Lucifer_arma> just read it
09:00 <Lucifer_arma> well, if the master server port isn't hardcoded, I can happily run another master server :)
09:00 <Lucifer_arma> the only reason I didn't think I could was because I thought there'd be a collision between the one I already run
09:00 <Lucifer_arma> s/between/with
09:02 <+DrJoeTron> i see
09:02 <+DrJoeTron> and thats the end of that chapter(s) :D
09:04 <Lucifer_arma> heh
09:05 <Lucifer_arma> only question (which I'll post, we don't have to have this conversation twice, once here and once on the forums), is if a client can be released with that menu before june or so
09:05 <Lucifer_arma> I don't think 0.3.1 will be ready by then, so people running 0.3.0 will either have to go back to 0.2.8 for that client, or hack their own config files for support
09:06 <+DrJoeTron> make them work for it :o
09:10 <+DrJoeTron> alright
09:10 <+DrJoeTron> imma go to bed
09:10 <+DrJoeTron> ta ta
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09:55 <hoshi79> guten tag, ich bin ein neuling hier und wollte mal fragen wie sich das mit den lieblingsservern verhält ???
09:56 <hoshi79> welchen habt ihr da?
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11:26 <Lucifer_arma> man, did I really write that?
11:26 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.davefancella.com/node/69
11:33 <hang3r> Maybe you can't remember because of the abduction?
11:58 <Lucifer_arma> heh
11:58 <Lucifer_arma> no, I wrote it.  It's just, well, when I write something, I hate it.  For like 6 months I hate it.  Then I ignore it and refuse to read it.
11:58 <Lucifer_arma> then sometime later I'll reread it.  Some stuff, when I reread it, I still hate it.
11:59 <Lucifer_arma> But some stuff, it reads like someone else wrote it, and I feel a connection to the author like if I were reading something someone else wrote.
11:59 <Lucifer_arma> and then I really like it, because you can't feel a stronger connection to an author than you feel for yourself, right?
11:59 <Lucifer_arma> borderline narcissism, if you ask me
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13:35 <spidey> no more headache
13:35 <spidey> :O
13:36 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, i could probably run a master server
13:36 <spidey> maybe 2 if the dedicated server turns out fine..
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14:12 <spider_> O.o
14:12 <spider_> gotta love those blimps, stupid things pop up once for each channel -_-
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14:29 <spider_> wrtlprnft, Lucifer_arma ping
14:29 <spider_> nvm
14:29  * spider_ is a idiot and forgot to use talk_to_master 1
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14:34 <guru3> wow hyphyleo is pissed :D
14:34 <spidey> ok maybe not :(
14:34 <wrtlprnft> spidey: pong
14:34 <wrtlprnft> nvm
14:34 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, wrtlprnft can you tell me if is trying to register with the master list?
14:34 <wrtlprnft> spidey is an idiot and forgot to use talk_to_master 1
14:35 <spidey> yea yea :P
14:35 <spidey> still not on this list after i put that in/restarted it
14:35 <wrtlprnft> grep running
14:35 <guru3> Lucifer_arma, z-man-work, any thoughts on the hyphy issue? he's threatened to sue me via pm :o
14:35 <wrtlprnft> o_O
14:35 <spidey> sue you?
14:35 <spidey> for what..
14:36 <guru3> yeah
14:36 <wrtlprnft> you're not in the US?
14:36 <guru3> invaison of privacy
14:36 <guru3> nope
14:36 <spidey> haha
14:36 <spidey> he can't sue you? :O
14:36 <wrtlprnft> so you can't be sued for every stupid issue?
14:36 <spidey> atleast, unless he flies to europe and tries
14:36 <spidey> :O
14:36 <spidey> and
14:36 <wrtlprnft> [2007/03/06 14:43:36] [1] Received new server:
14:36 <wrtlprnft> [2007/03/06 14:43:41] [17] Acknowledged server:
14:36 <wrtlprnft> [2007/03/06 14:43:41] [17] Updated server:
14:36 <wrtlprnft> [2007/03/06 14:43:42] [17] Updated server:
14:36 <spidey> a illegal matter isn't privacy
14:36 <spidey> :O
14:37 <spidey> ew!
14:37  * spidey pokes his client
14:37 <wrtlprnft> 4 lines ≠ flood I hope.
14:37 <guru3> heh
14:37 <spidey> wait
14:37  * spidey is a idiot again
14:37  * spidey started a second client with the settings then killed the wrong one
14:38 <guru3> hahaha
14:39 <spidey>  2091 armagetron      19   0  5752 3204 4748 T  0.0  0.3   0:00.28 armagetron-de
14:39 <spidey> why's it still running when i killall arma*
14:39 <spidey> ?
14:40 <spidey> tried the pid to, still doesn't die >.<
14:40 <wrtlprnft> -9?
14:40 <guru3> hanging process?
14:40 <spidey> guess
14:41 <spidey> -9 worked
14:41 <wrtlprnft> -9 can't fail
14:41 <wrtlprnft> unless you don't have permission to kill the proces
14:41 <wrtlprnft> su -c kill -9 1 always works.
14:42 <guru3> -9 fails if the process is defunct
14:44 <wrtlprnft> dfunct?
14:44 <wrtlprnft> *e
14:44 <guru3> and do you suppose i'm justified in deleteing hyph's titty comments?
14:44 <guru3> (the ones in random threads that have nothing todo with anything)
14:44 <wrtlprnft> it's your forums
14:44 <guru3> damn right
14:45 <spidey> if you have guidelines that says no spamming
14:45 <spidey> then there's nothing he can do at all
14:45 <spidey> :p
14:45 <wrtlprnft> and I don't think many people here will be angry at you for “censoring” stuff
14:45 <guru3> i mean in general ive got a 0 tolerance policy for spam
14:46 <guru3> that is for like advert spam
14:46 <guru3> but this is sort of...
14:46 <guru3> meh
14:46 <guru3> may have to write proper rules
14:47 <guru3> lack wrote a great response
14:47 <guru3> "Can't you express yourself without sounding like an ass?"
14:47 <wrtlprnft> go delete every off-topic post!
14:47 <wrtlprnft> and see what's left of these forums
14:47 <spidey> you know if you move that kinda stuff to a private forum with autoprune you'll keep the posts in your post count
14:47 <guru3> true
14:47 <spidey> if you delete tem you lost them in the post count
14:48 <wrtlprnft> who cares about the post count?
14:48 <spidey> :p
14:48 <wrtlprnft> it can be modified via mysql, anyways
14:48 <spidey> that's cheating!
14:48 <guru3> ive got a mod installed to make sure hte post count stays in sync with how many posts there are
14:48 <wrtlprnft> x_X
14:49 <spidey> heh
14:49 <spidey> grr
14:49 <spidey> i can't figure out why the server isn't showing on my list :(
14:50 <guru3> asking a different master server than your server's talking to
14:50 <spidey> probably, it's still being polled
14:50 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: nice screenshots :D
14:51 <guru3> the font looks very good on them
14:51 <spidey> /usr/local/share/games/armagetronad-dedicated/www-root
14:51 <spidey> 1173210443 shttpd_open_port: bind(4550): Address already in use
14:51 <spidey> can i disable the webserver?
14:51 <guru3> i think so
14:53 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: your domain.
14:54 <spidey> hm
14:54 <spidey> it's on now :D:D
14:54 <guru3> just checked my master server
14:54 <guru3> ppl r uzing it ><
14:54 <spidey> when i run it in nohup, it doesn't "run" can't custom connect either
14:55 <guru3> screen
14:55 <spidey> second choice :D
14:55 <wrtlprnft> spidey: you gonna host a server with negative pings?
14:55 <wrtlprnft> sec
14:55 <spidey> ?
14:55 <wrtlprnft> i think one can.
14:55 <wrtlprnft> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=149631#149631
14:55 <guru3> and i wonder why my conn's been running at full upload since 9 last night
14:56 <spidey> ok, one more restart and i'll stop spamming ya'lls master servers :P
14:57 <spidey> done :D
14:57 <spidey> the nohup thing may explain why another server didn't show on a master list when i ran it
14:57 <spidey> but doesn't explain why tremulous does >.<
14:58 <guru3> found out why the conns been going full tilt
14:58 <guru3> appears my mom is dling something ><
14:59 <wrtlprnft> huh?
14:59 <wrtlprnft> there's an uMenuItemPassword
14:59 <guru3> Krawall
14:59 <wrtlprnft> yeah, just surprising
15:00 <guru3> still need to come up with a reply for the hyph thread :/
15:01 <spidey> which one?
15:01 <guru3> the one canada started
15:01 <guru3> cause i simply locked the one he started
15:02 <spidey> tell him you don't think something like that should be posted on a forum, but reported to the proper authority if the statement's legitiment?
15:02 <spidey> :O
15:02 <wrtlprnft> don't delete the server pass one!
15:02 <guru3> Oo
15:02 <guru3> i'm only concerned with the canada/hyphy one
15:02 <wrtlprnft> ok
15:04 <spidey> is it bad when you goto write your name on a school book and put "spidey" instead? :/
15:05 <guru3> yes
15:17 <wrtlprnft> #serverdetails negative
15:17 <armabot> wrtlprnft: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “negative” at the moment, sorry.
15:18 <spidey> #serverdetails 100
15:18 <armabot> spidey: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Arena {100MBit}: Players (3/10): <N'w>íLL0, elitehobo1220, i love tech
15:19 <spidey> #serverdetails 200
15:19 <armabot> spidey: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “200” at the moment, sorry.
15:20 <spidey> "Lubrication is essential for reducing friction"
15:20 <spidey> o.O
15:25 <wrtlprnft> #serverdetails negative
15:25 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Fortress with negative pings!: No online players.
15:25 <wrtlprnft> i hope this will make hyphy happy
15:25 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_: ping
15:31 <wrtlprnft> guru3: strictly speaking a post doesn't waste more space than a PM
15:31 <guru3> no
15:32 <guru3> but i felt that saying it that way was ok\
15:32 <guru3> dont go poking holes in my argument intended to shut canada and hyphy up :P
15:32 <wrtlprnft> neither of them is here
15:32 <guru3> ya never know ><
15:37 <wrtlprnft> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=149671#149671
15:37 <wrtlprnft> :D
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15:38 <spidey> lol wrtlprnft 
15:43 <spidey> wrtlprnft, how'd you do that? O.o
15:44 <wrtlprnft> it sais in the post
15:44 <wrtlprnft> *it
15:45 <spidey> where O.o
15:47 <wrtlprnft> years of research and quantum phyisics
15:47 <wrtlprnft> if i told you exactly how i'm afraid i'd have to kill you
15:47 <spidey> ..
15:48 <spidey> i'll take it you just add a "-" to the language file?
15:48 <wrtlprnft> ?
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15:48 <wrtlprnft> noooo, you'd have to do that on the client
15:48 <spidey> o
15:48 <spidey> source?
15:48 <wrtlprnft> and there's no language string for the ping display anyways
15:49 <wrtlprnft> you can join the server yourself!
15:49  * spidey wonders why this science book has all the answers in itallic
15:50 <spidey> doesn't that defeat the purpose of studing?
15:50 <wrtlprnft> no.
15:50 <wrtlprnft> because the important thing is how you get the answer
15:50  * wrtlprnft has written tests where all the answers were given
15:50 <spidey> this is the first one that has that
15:51 <spidey> that's kinda different
15:51 <wrtlprnft> like, “show that the radius of the path the electron flies is 0.23m”
15:52 <spidey> physical science
15:52 <spidey> not whatever that is -_-
15:52 <wrtlprnft> so you know you're screwed if you get something different from 0.23m
15:52 <spidey> so you remember 0.23m
15:52 <spidey> instead of studing it :P
15:52  * wrtlprnft is talking about a test
15:52 <spidey> memorize*
15:53 <spidey> it's not hard
15:53 <spidey> i used to do it when i was in public school and took mid-terms/finals
15:53 <wrtlprnft> and knowing 0.23m doesn't help you if the teacher asks you to explain your solution on the board
15:53 <spidey> just memorize a few words of the sentence, and the answer
15:54 <spidey> this isn't college work
15:54 <spidey> it's highschool
15:54  * wrtlprnft isn't in college
15:54  * spidey isn't in 12th grade
15:54 <wrtlprnft> not too much different in grade 10
15:54 <spidey> actually it is
15:54 <spidey> atleast here it is
15:54 <wrtlprnft> anyways, the answer is worthless
15:55 <wrtlprnft> and you're old enough to decide whether you want to learn it or not
15:55 <spidey> "The ______ is really a wheel and axle with a rope or chain attached"
15:55 <wrtlprnft> if you don't want to do the exercise, just don't do it
15:55 <wrtlprnft> that's what i do
15:55 <spidey> much difference :P
15:55 <wrtlprnft> #translate german englisch flaschenzug
15:55 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: "'englisch'" is not a valid language.  Valid languages include Chinese_simple, Chinese_traditional, Dutch, English, French, German, Greek, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Portuguese, Russian, and Spanish
15:55 <wrtlprnft> #translate german english flaschenzug
15:55 <armabot> wrtlprnft: pulley-block
15:55 <wrtlprnft> o_O
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16:03 <epsy> hi
16:04 <wrtlprnft> hi
16:04 <spidey> hi
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16:25 <spidey> "The LORD shall reign forever" 
16:25 <spidey> what does this have to do with physical science?
16:25 <spidey> o.O
16:32 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/device.png
16:33 <wrtlprnft> would this thing be a ____?
16:33 <z-man-work> what's that for a useless crap device? Martial arts? Bondage?
16:34 <wrtlprnft> 15:55 <spidey> "The ______ is really a wheel and axle with a rope or chain attached"
16:34 <spidey> ..
16:34 <spidey> pulley man, pulley
16:34 <hang3r> Toilet plunger?
16:34 <spidey> haha
16:35 <z-man-work> cue the super mario theme
16:35 <wrtlprnft> they should really be more specific
16:35 <spidey> lol
16:36 <spidey> and tomorrows assignment
16:36 <spidey> 35 pages of math
16:36 <spidey> >.<
16:36 <spidey> 30 pages of science is fine, because i read faster than i write xD
16:37 <spidey> math's gonna take 1/2 the day :(
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16:47 <spidey> ew, it's that luke-jr guy :D
16:47 <luke-jr> stfu luser
16:48  * spidey pokes luke-jr
16:48 <spidey> i may no be able to spell that good, but atleast i can spell loser :P
16:49 <spidey> #dict gigapixel
16:49 <armabot> spidey: No definition for "gigapixel" could be found.
16:55 <luke-jr> guru3: setting yourself up as a credit report service?
16:56 <guru3> no
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17:03 <hang3r> I'm getting sick of xmms, it's too old and its starting to show in a number of ways, and I can't stand amarok.
17:03 <hang3r> Anyone got any alternatives to xmms similar but more currently developed?
17:03 <wrtlprnft> none you can stand
17:03 <guru3> audacious
17:04 <hang3r> That looks promising, thanks
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17:15 <luke-jr> hang3r: xmms is obsolete
17:15 <luke-jr> hang3r: audacious
17:15 <hang3r> Just installed it, yeah im liking it so far, almost exactly like xmms
17:16 <luke-jr> guru3: sure seems like it; you'd prefer if people weren't warned about credit card fraud except you; so I should check with you before taking CCs
17:17 <guru3> ARGH
17:17 <guru3> stop poking holes in it
17:23 <GodTodd> luke-jr:): you shouldn't take credit cards anyway....not based on gold :P
17:23 <luke-jr> GodTodd: CC are USD only
17:24 <GodTodd> and?
17:24 <luke-jr> ..
17:24 <GodTodd> usd isn't based on gold either
17:24 <z-man-work> Bah, gold is worthless. Much too soft.
17:25 <z-man-work> maybe useful in projectile weapons.
17:27 <GodTodd> any form of currency is only useful insofar as those providing goods and/or services find it valuable
17:27 <luke-jr> [10:23:56] <GodTodd> luke-jr:): you shouldn't take credit cards anyway....not based on gold :P
17:27 <luke-jr> no CC is based on gold
17:27 <GodTodd> exactly
17:28 <GodTodd> and you only want to deal in gold
17:28 <luke-jr> never said that
17:28 <GodTodd> sure sure
17:28 <GodTodd> whatever you say, sparky
17:41 <spidey> children, children
17:41 <spidey> :D
17:42  * Vanhayes notes spidey is probably the youngest one here
17:42 <spidey> canada's younger
17:42 <spidey> :D
17:42 <GodTodd> canada's not here
17:42 <GodTodd> :P
17:43 <spidey> luke-jr, acts younger, does that count? :D
17:43 <spidey> gotta go.
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17:44 <luke-jr> no I don't
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18:41 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
18:41 <armabot> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (10 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬ (9 players) || Norm's Place (8 players) || °¯ps Arena ~~~ Team Sumo ~~~ (8 players) || The Tavern (7 players) || {Delicious Desserts} Custom Map (6 players) || Strawberry Fields (6 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (6 players) || Tigers Network Speed Blast (5 players) || ~/EF~ ClanServer (5 players) (1 more message)
18:42 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
18:42 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 64.8°F (11:43 AM CST on March 06, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 22%. Dew Point: 24.8°F. Pressure: 30.29 in 1025.6 hPa. 
18:59 <Vanhayes> #weather Saint John
18:59 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 7°F / -14°C | Humidity: 44% | Pressure: 29.61in / 1003hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 22mph / 35km/h | Updated: 1:00 PM AST; Today - A mix of sun and cloud. 60 percent chance of flurries early this afternoon. Wind northwest 40 km/h gusting to 60. Temperature steady near minus 15. Cold wind chill minus 27.; Tonight - Clearing this evening. (1 more message)
19:00 <Vanhayes> #more
19:00 <armabot> Vanhayes: Wind northwest 40 km/h gusting to 60. Low minus 22. Extreme wind chill minus 35.; Wednesday - Sunny. Wind west 30 km/h. High minus 11. Extreme wind chill minus 35.;
19:00 <Vanhayes> #g -35 C in F
19:00 <armabot> Vanhayes: (-35) degrees Celsius = -31 degrees Fahrenheit
19:01 <Vanhayes> #g -37 C in F
19:01 <armabot> Vanhayes: (-37) degrees Celsius = -34.6 degrees Fahrenheit
19:01 <Vanhayes> #g -39 C in F
19:01 <armabot> Vanhayes: (-39) degrees Celsius = -38.2 degrees Fahrenheit
19:01 <Vanhayes> #g -40 C in F
19:01 <armabot> Vanhayes: (-40) degrees Celsius = -40 degrees Fahrenheit
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19:04 <luke-jr> we should just use logarithmic units to confuse people
19:04 <luke-jr> :D
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19:34 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: love the freeciv ides
19:34 <luke-jr> idea*
19:35 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: you forgot me on your list of people
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20:10 <spidey> #logs
20:10 <spidey> #list alias
20:10 <armabot> spidey: add, armabot, armaconfig, bigbrother, bug, chatlog, check, damn, dance, date, die, die, digg, do, eliza, f, fortune, g, gcalc, goodbye, hello, insight, ircstats, joke, kill, lastseen, legit, lock, log, log, luke, m, man, message, mfaq, morning, night, onlineplayers, onlineservers, pacman, piong, poing, praise, q, realchatlogs, remove, resources, rou, roulette, roulete, rules, (1 more message)
20:10 <spidey> #log
20:10 <armabot> spidey: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
20:10 <spidey> wtf?
20:10 <spidey> #realchatlogs
20:10 <armabot> spidey: http://master3.armagetronad.net/armalogs/
20:12 <spidey> luke-jr, what freeciv idea?
20:14 <Vanhayes> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?sid=04920706e2c1ec2d9b1d7ccf81dae864&p=149841#149841 i think that was what he was talking about
20:15 <Vanhayes> paticularly this part "We'll have an awards ceremony after the championship. The exact mechanism for it is yet to be determined. Maybe we'll all meet up in a freeciv server.  (That's a joke, luke!)"
20:23 <mkzelda> http://www.handdrawngames.com/DesktopTD/
20:47 <Vanhayes> heh that game is awesome
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21:42 <Lucifer_arma> guru3: yeah, just blow him off.  (Hyphy)  maybe just move Canada's exposition thread to some private place (like the trashcan!).  Heh
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21:56 <luke-jr> ...
21:58 <epsy> …
22:01 <luke-jr> ^^^
22:01 <luke-jr> ‥
22:01 <luke-jr> ₁₂₃₄
22:02 <epsy> gah i dont have the 4
22:02 <luke-jr> you get ₄₧
22:02 <epsy> °¹²³
22:02 <luke-jr> ‼
22:03 <luke-jr> √√
22:03 <luke-jr> █▓▒░▒▓█▓▒░▒▓█▓▒░▒▓█▓▒░▒▓█▓▒░▒▓█▓▒░▒▓█▓▒░▒▓
22:03 <epsy> lol
22:03 <epsy> i remember sawing it in the logs...    ҈
22:05 <luke-jr> ╔══════════════╗
22:05 <luke-jr> ║  I win!      ║
22:05 <luke-jr> ╚══════════════╝
22:10 <epsy> lol
22:10 <epsy> mkzelda, 2948 score
22:10 <epsy> :P
22:11 <luke-jr> :o
22:17 <epsy> o lol
22:17 <epsy> watch this:
22:17 <epsy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZOmDe5Zs10
22:25 <z-man> guru3: when you give people a new avatar in the forum, can you lock it? I'm thinking about drawing a troll in a cage with a "do not feed" sign for hyphy :) Or better, have DrJoeTron draw it.
22:25 <guru3> haha
22:25 <guru3> i think it'd require a hack to lock it
22:29 <luke-jr> lol
22:37 <spidey> how do you untar a .bzip?
22:39 <luke-jr> ...
22:39 <luke-jr> I have never seen a .bzip :)
22:39 <spidey> -jxf?
22:40 <DrJoeTron> question
22:40 <[dlh]> answer
22:40 <spidey> wtf
22:40 <DrJoeTron> sweet
22:40 <spidey> :P
22:42 <DrJoeTron> can 2 servers be hosted on one machine and have them show up on the master server?
22:42 <spidey> yes...
22:42 <DrJoeTron> ok just making sure
22:42 <DrJoeTron> it wsa fighting before with my servers
22:42 <spidey> luke does it....lol
22:43 <spidey> root@zion:/var/www# tar -jfx phpBB-2.0.22.tar.bz2
22:43 <spidey> tar: You must specify one of the `-Acdtrux' options
22:43 <spidey> Try `tar --help' for more information.
22:43 <spidey> ^^^ :(
22:43 <DrJoeTron> i gues thats kidna funny
22:47 <z-man> guru3: well, then, I think at least he deserves one of those special titles. "Forum Troll" or "Ignore Me" or something.
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22:47 <DrJoeTron> oh man
22:48 <DrJoeTron> someone getting a custom title?
22:48 <DrJoeTron> can i make them an avatar?
22:48 <GodTodd> no
22:50 <guru3> that might be going too far
22:55 <epsy> gtg
22:55 <epsy> cya
22:57 <epsy> #goodbye
22:57 <armabot> Goodbye epsy :(
22:59 -!- epsy [n=epsy@mar75-4-82-227-65-72.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["END OF LINE"]
23:02 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-216-182-238.client.mchsi.com] has joined #Armagetron
23:02 <DrJoeTron> #listservers
23:02 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-216-182-238.client.mchsi.com] has left #Armagetron []
23:02 <DrJoeTron> #serverlist
23:02 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-216-182-238.client.mchsi.com] has joined #Armagetron
23:03 <DrJoeTron> the hell do i know
23:03 <ghableska> ?
23:03 <DrJoeTron> nuffin
23:03 <ghableska> #weather 50266
23:03 <GodTodd> muffin
23:03 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 38.1°F (4:02 PM CST on March 06, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 24.8°F. Windchill: 33.8°F. Pressure: 29.15 in 987.0 hPa. 
23:03 <ghableska> s are good
23:06 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
23:06 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
23:12  * GodTodd gets the RSS feed.
23:12 <ghableska> fetch!
23:13 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
23:13 <armabot> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (11 players) || Norm's Place (10 players) || Wild West =Capture The Flag= (8 players) || ~"XzL.Clan The Server (7 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬ (7 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (6 players) || Wild West =CTF Shooting= (6 players) || The Tavern (6 players) || °¯ps Arena ~~~ Team Sumo ~~~ (6 players) || Strawberry Fields (6 players) || Tigers (1 more message)
23:13 <GodTodd> see? :P
23:13 <Vanhayes> wd GodTodd you got it
23:13 <ghableska> #lastseen Vanhayes
23:13 <armabot> ghableska: Vanhayes has last been seen on  Wild West  =CTF Shooting= 0 days 22 hours 39 minutes ago.
23:13  * GodTodd is Mr. Fixit :D
23:13 <ghableska> fix luke-jr
23:13 <Vanhayes> #serverinfo cafe
23:13 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: No online players.
23:14 <GodTodd> he's beyond repair unfortunately :/
23:14 <ghableska> I knew it
23:14 <Vanhayes> #serverinfo arena
23:14 <armabot> Vanhayes: °¯ps Arena  ~~~ Team Sumo ~~~: Players (5/12): eggcozy, featherfcuk, Gnezdo, Ulquiorra, ULTRA
23:15  * GodTodd is finally getting around to ripping his cd collection
23:16  * GodTodd waits for the sirens and paddy wagon now :/
23:16  * Vanhayes did that when he got his iPod
23:16 <ghableska> ipod?
23:16 <ghableska> bah
23:16 <ghableska> get a Zune!
23:17 <Lucifer_arma> fuck that
23:17 <ghableska> They "squirt" music, heh
23:17 <GodTodd> i just have a little 1GB player right now
23:17 <Vanhayes> they arent available in canada if I wanted one 
23:17 <ghableska> http://www.portableplanet.co.uk/2006/11/26/microsofts-zune-is-made-for-squirting/
23:17 <GodTodd> just haven't had the good ole music to put on it yet
23:17 <GodTodd> heh
23:18 <GodTodd> tho, sadly, i don't have seventh son of a seventh son on cd :(
23:19 <Vanhayes> wow, if "squirting" lasted forever instead of having a time restraint on it I would probably buy a zune
23:19 <ghableska> they need to rename it
23:20  * GodTodd giggles at the thought of M$ giving anything forever.
23:20 <ghableska> "Hey, I'm going to squirt some music at you, okay?"
23:20 <ghableska> o_O
23:20 <Vanhayes> heh
23:20 <Lucifer_arma> I just carry my harmonica
23:20 <ghableska> oh, heh
23:20 <Lucifer_arma> the zune ws obviously designed by marketing flunkies
23:20 <GodTodd> yep....M$
23:20 <GodTodd> heh
23:20 <Lucifer_arma> well, cya, gotta go to class
23:21 <ghableska> cu
23:21 <GodTodd> icup
23:21 <ghableska> funny colors
23:21 <GodTodd> at your temp...probably
23:21 <GodTodd> :P
23:21 <ghableska> :p
23:22 <Lucifer_arma> my son:  "Dad, what's your favorite food?"  "People"
23:22 <GodTodd> tell him the truth....it's shit sandwich
23:22 <GodTodd> ;)
23:23 <GodTodd> grr...i think my use your illusion I is too scratched to rip :(
23:23 <DrJoeTron> shut up
23:24  * ghableska shuts up
23:24 <GodTodd> fuck you joe :)
23:24 <DrJoeTron> ok
23:24 <DrJoeTron> 8--D
23:24 <GodTodd> you giving or taking this time?
23:24 <DrJoeTron> im going to give
23:24 <GodTodd> 8=================D~~~~
23:24 <DrJoeTron> :o
23:24 <ghableska> "Ghableska (with his own caveats, weird guy)"
23:24 <ghableska> ....
23:25 <GodTodd> yeah...that ghableska is one weird bird
23:25  * ghableska pecks GodTodd's eyes out
23:25  * GodTodd likes it.
23:26  * ghableska isn't DrJoeTron
23:26  * GodTodd knows very well.
23:26 <Vanhayes> #dict caveats
23:27 <armabot> Vanhayes: No definition for "caveats" could be found.
23:27 <GodTodd> #dict caveat
23:27 <armabot> GodTodd: wn, bouvier, gcide, and moby-thes responded: wn: caveat n 1: a warning against certain acts; "a caveat against unfair practices" [syn: {caution}] 2: (law) a formal notice filed with a court or officer to suspend a proceeding until filer is given a hearing; "a caveat filed against the probate of a will"; bouvier: CAVEAT, practice. That he beware. Caveat is the name of a notice (7 more messages)
23:27 <Vanhayes> bah
23:27 <ghableska> heh
23:27  * GodTodd notes that usually #dict wants the root word. :P
23:28 <DrJoeTron> GodTodd you mandingo
23:28 <GodTodd> fuck that
23:28 <DrJoeTron> fuck you
23:29 <GodTodd> after dinner
23:29 <GodTodd> you buy
23:29 <GodTodd> fucking user
23:29 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7174 /tools/libGlicko2/trunk/ (libGlicko2.php process.php): fix some bugs
23:30  * GodTodd always pictures a werewolf-type creature whenever he sees the word mandingo.
23:30 <GodTodd> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7174 /tools/libGlicko2/trunk/ (libGlicko2.php process.php): fix some bugs that i foolishly created
23:30 <spidey> wrtlprnft, Lucifer_arma luke-jr  any idea why i installed the mysql server and get this #2002 - The server is not responding (or the local MySQL server's socket is not correctly configured)   i can't figure out what to config :(
23:31 <wrtlprnft> ps ax | grep mysqld?
23:31 <luke-jr> because you didn't start the server?
23:31 <spidey> root@zion:/etc/init.d# ps ax | grep mysqld
23:31 <spidey> root@zion:/etc/init.d#
23:31 <DrJoeTron> werewolf-type creature
23:31 <DrJoeTron> i think teen wolf
23:31 <spidey> luke-jr, .....
23:32  * spidey notes last time mysql started on its own :(
23:32 <spidey> on my home server anyways
23:32  * GodTodd jumps on the top of a van for some surfing at the mention of teen wolf.
23:36 <wrtlprnft> spidey: well, it's not started.
23:37 <spidey> it's not in init.d
23:37 <luke-jr> wizzee : 1157-1451 (rating = 1303.78237521; RD = 73.4443223772; volatility = 0.06)
23:37 <luke-jr> spidey : 1262-1558 (rating = 1410.05802238; RD = 74.0330956396; volatility = 0.06)
23:37 <spidey> ?
23:37 <luke-jr> ratings
23:37 <spidey> for?
23:38 <luke-jr> luke-jr : 1007-1759 (rating = 1382.98329792; RD = 188.048264351; volatility = 0.06)
23:38 <luke-jr> FA clan server
23:38 <luke-jr> I don't think it's working yet completely
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23:38 <luke-jr> volatility isn't changing
23:38 <luke-jr> :/
23:38 <spidey> wtf's that..
23:39 <GodTodd> how easy you blow up.
23:39 <luke-jr> lol
23:39 <luke-jr> supposedly, it determines how fast your rating is changing
23:39 <luke-jr> silver : -351-2453 (rating = 1050.67543279; RD = 701.042795394; volatility = 0.06)
23:39 <luke-jr> :o
23:39 <luke-jr> he must not play much XD
23:39 <luke-jr> huge RD
23:40 <spidey> ?
23:40 <luke-jr> RD is the accuracy of the rating, I think
23:40 <luke-jr> it's what determines the range of the approximation
23:40 <luke-jr> it goes up when you don't play
23:41 <luke-jr> mazuffer : -651-3789 (rating = 1569.37941243; RD = 1110.04743443; volatility = 0.06)
23:41 <ghableska> luke-jr: what am I? :p
23:41 <luke-jr> ghableska : -147-3064 (rating = 1458.16970844; RD = 802.760168951; volatility =
23:41  * luke-jr wonders why we're all under 1500
23:41  * ghableska has no volatility
23:42 <luke-jr> 1500 = what you start at
23:42 <luke-jr> volatility is clearly broken :p
23:42 <luke-jr> which suggests the rest is too and these are just random numbers
23:42 <ghableska> heh
23:43 <luke-jr> someone needs to look at my code and figure out why it's broken
23:43 <ghableska> ask GodTodd
23:43 <GodTodd> they're all under 1500 due to the range being 3000 or less :P
23:43 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7175 /tools/libGlicko2/trunk/process.php: this makes RD slightly more sane
23:43 <luke-jr> ...
23:43 <luke-jr> GodTodd: that makes so much sense
23:43 <GodTodd> i know :D
23:44 <luke-jr> is there actually a range?
23:44 <GodTodd> that's what i'm calling that first set of numbers due to not knowing the Right Term
23:44 <luke-jr> oh
23:44 <luke-jr> the interval is calculated from the rating
23:45 <luke-jr> Rating - RD * 2 .. Rating + RD * 2
23:45 <GodTodd> ah
23:45 <luke-jr> the interval is the estimate :)
23:46 <GodTodd> estimate of what?
23:46 <luke-jr> Rating is best guess
23:46 <luke-jr> of skill level
23:46 <GodTodd> so the rating is really anywhere from the low number to the high number?
23:46 <luke-jr> the real skill of the player is, yes
23:47 <GodTodd> well...even that is an approximation due to extenuating circumstances
23:47 <GodTodd> i assume
23:47 <luke-jr> it doesn't know the real skill of the player
23:47 <GodTodd> right
23:47 <luke-jr> its purpose is to try to learn it
23:47 <ghableska> what about just having a kill/death ratio? :p
23:47 <luke-jr> ghableska: then I can spend the game pwning newbies :)
23:48 <ghableska> o_O
23:48  * ghableska is one of them :/
23:48 <luke-jr> kill 100 newbies would be the same as killing 100 pros
23:48 <luke-jr> with Glicko-2, killing 100 pros would be much more valuable
23:48 <ghableska> oh
23:48 <luke-jr> eg, it's not how many people you kill
23:48 <luke-jr> it's what people you CAN kill
23:48 <GodTodd> and what do you get for that 'value'?
23:49 <luke-jr> ?
23:49  * GodTodd thinks how to more simply rephrase the question since it's already pretty simple...
23:49 <luke-jr> 'value'?
23:50 <GodTodd> valuable implies value
23:50 <luke-jr> oh
23:50 <GodTodd> valuable == able to be valued
23:50 <luke-jr> no clue
23:50 <luke-jr> I have no idea how it works
23:50 <luke-jr> just what its purpose is
23:50 <luke-jr> just cuz I write the code doesn't mean I know what it does
23:50 <ghableska> o_O
23:50 <GodTodd> that's not my question at all
23:51 <GodTodd> but oh well
23:51 <GodTodd> heh
23:52 <DrJoeTron> how the hell was ren and stimpy aired on nickelodeon
23:52 <GodTodd> them was much simpler times, my man
23:52 <GodTodd> :D
23:52 <DrJoeTron> my ass
23:53 <DrJoeTron> i finally watched the dvd's
23:53 <DrJoeTron> and jesus
23:53 <DrJoeTron> i'm not suprised they fired john K
23:54 <GodTodd> heh
23:54 -!- Vanhayes [i=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu83w-156034245072.nb.aliant.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
23:54 <DrJoeTron> though now it makes sense why ren sounded weirder later on in the series
23:54 <luke-jr> ...
23:54 <DrJoeTron> since billy west started doing rens voice :o
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23:56 <GodTodd> making a whole lotta sense wasn't exactly that show's strong point
23:57 <DrJoeTron> i read john K's blog alot lately
23:58 <DrJoeTron> http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/ :D

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