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Log from 2006-09-06:
--- Day changed Wed Sep 06 2006
00:00 <wrtlprnft> well, getting a bit over 40KB/s on each upload
00:00 <wrtlprnft> normal internet connection
00:00 <joda_bo1> sounds like some kind of 6MBit/700kBit Connection ;)
00:00 <wrtlprnft> actually
00:00 <wrtlprnft> http://cablesurf.de/tarife.php?id=11
00:01 <wrtlprnft> the bottom–most one
00:01 <wrtlprnft> it was originally 4000kBit/256kBit I think
00:01 <wrtlprnft> then they kept upgrading it for free
00:01 <wrtlprnft> and I didn't complain :)
00:03 <joda_bo1> hows the latency over those cable modems ?
00:03 <wrtlprnft> pretty nice
00:04 <wrtlprnft> i used to get around 50ms ping on BF
00:04 <wrtlprnft> that is, using my higher- end PC over a wired connection
00:04 <wrtlprnft> this laptop over WLAN lags quite a bit :(
00:05 <joda_bo1> hm, I'm pretty new to WLAN ;)
00:06 <wrtlprnft> well, something's screwed up with my router/wlan card/driver/settings too
00:06 <joda_bo1> but after upgrading my router to OpenWRT the linksys WLAN and Intel chipset on windows work pretty well
00:06 <wrtlprnft> i just dunno what to blame :(
00:06 <DrJoeTron> Liberal media
00:06  * wrtlprnft wishes he had a router he could install openwrt on
00:07 <joda_bo1> what kind of router do you have ?
00:07 <joda_bo1> they really advanced their device support (AFAIK)
00:07 <wrtlprnft> wrt54gc
00:08 <wrtlprnft> i might buy a new one
00:08 <joda_bo1> ah, not enough flash memory :-(
00:09 <joda_bo1> Does anyone know a social wlan service company (hard to discribe)
00:09 <joda_bo1> They offer WLAN Hotspots for members for free, if the member hosts a WLAN hotspot for others too
00:10 <wrtlprnft> not me
00:10 <joda_bo1> and then they have some payed subscriptions for ppl who just want to use the hotspots
00:10 <joda_bo1> well, I saw some report on Tv or heard about it, but I canÄt 
00:11 <joda_bo1> can't recall the name or anything to find it with
00:13 <wrtlprnft> sucks :(
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00:23 <MaZuffeR> joda_bo1: http://en.fon.com/
00:24 <MaZuffeR> also https://open.sparknet.fi/index.php
00:24  * spidey pokes MaZuffeR 
00:24  * MaZuffeR pokes spidey
00:24 <spidey> :D
00:25 <spidey> MaZuffeR, teach me how to play fortress again!
00:25 <MaZuffeR> eh?
00:25 <spidey> this is the second time i got caught up in another game and suck at tron :D
00:26 <MaZuffeR> just play a few hours and it'll come back to you
00:26 <spidey> lol
00:26 <spidey> last time it took 2 weeks :p
00:26 <MaZuffeR> it tooks about 5 hours for me
00:26 <joda_bo1> MaZuffeR: thx
00:26 <MaZuffeR> yw
00:26 <spidey> Luke-Jr, 
00:27 <joda_bo1> ah, LINUS BILL ALIEN ;)
00:27 <joda_bo1> ah cool ;)
00:27 <joda_bo1> that's what I remember ;)
00:27 <joda_bo1> anyone using / offering it ?
00:30 <joda_bo1> Woa there a lot of access points in my city Paderborn ;)
00:30 <joda_bo1> cool
00:40 <wrtlprnft> grr, sometime python is annoying
00:41 <wrtlprnft> you can't insert an integer into an XML file without explicitly converting it
00:47 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r6165 /private/wrtlprnft/armaspyadvanced/armaspyadvanced.py: Again a more sensible default for the armagetronad command, to prevent further reoccurences of that problem armaspyad now reads its settings from the XML file, too.
00:47 <wrtlprnft> :)
00:48 <joda_bo1> gn8 all, wrtlprnft
00:48 <joda_bo1> #night
00:48 <armabot> Good night joda_bo1!
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00:51 <wrtlprnft> o_O i just managed to crash elinks!
00:58 <wrtlprnft> anyways
00:58 <wrtlprnft> #night
00:58 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
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01:18 <Your_mom_arma> wrtlprnft: can you add transperent png support to cockpit files?
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05:17 <Lucifer_arma> fucking gentoo
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05:40 <Your_mom_arma> hi
05:40 <hiab> hi
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05:55 <Lucifer_arma> hi bug boy
05:59 <DrJoeTron> i gots to find 70 bucks pronto
05:59 <Your_mom_arma> for?
05:59 <DrJoeTron> friends roomate is selling a mobo with a 2.5ghz P4
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> hmm, did you send that machine yet?  and how much am I supposed to paypal you?
06:00 <DrJoeTron> not yet. I finished gathering the parts for the entire thing and I'm trying to figure out how it goes back together
06:00 <DrJoeTron> This case is horrible
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> man, these physics problems are annoying
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> I've done them all before in algebra, trig, and calculus, and I'm just not coming up with the energy to do it again
06:03 <DrJoeTron> sweet somone managed to get autobanned from my server
06:03 <DrJoeTron> the spider keeps catching flies :D
06:04 <Your_mom_arma> spam?
06:06 <DrJoeTron> yeah
06:08 <Lucifer_arma> the wiki autobans 3-6 people every day according to its logs :)
06:08 <DrJoeTron> wow
06:08 <Lucifer_arma> it autobanned jonathan, heh.  Hd to upgrade Bad Behavior so Jonathan could go back to the wiki.
06:09 <DrJoeTron> oh man
06:09 <DrJoeTron> last night
06:09 <DrJoeTron> every possible thing that could go wrong on teamspeak
06:09 <DrJoeTron> happened
06:09 <DrJoeTron> god casper scares the hell out of me
06:10 <DrJoeTron> and and I feel bad kicking him for "you're fucking weird"
06:10 <DrJoeTron> Casper"Hey joe ive never seen what you look like!"
06:10 <DrJoeTron> yeah lets keep it that way
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> you didn't tell hiim you look like his dad?
06:11 <DrJoeTron> he's too creepy
06:11 <DrJoeTron> and he's deaf
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> then what's he doing on teamspeak?
06:11 <DrJoeTron> ever try talking to a deaf guy using a VoiP?
06:11 <DrJoeTron> yeah thats what i fucking said
06:11 <DrJoeTron> i guess he can sort of hear
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> well, my dad's a bit hard of hearing, but phone's different.
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> when you're plugged into your computer, you have a mixer...
06:12 <DrJoeTron> last time he was on had the sound on max
06:13 <DrJoeTron> i have it set to push to talk for most people to prevent ghosting because usually the people just comming on the server arent very familiar how to use voips
06:13 <DrJoeTron> I've had two instances where I've kicked for not doing it
06:14 <DrJoeTron> one was casper because he was screaming at his dog, everything ghosted and he was smashing the computer.
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> hahahahaha
06:14 <DrJoeTron> keyboard*
06:14 <DrJoeTron> one was optic because he's 12 and also baby talking to his dog
06:14  * Lucifer_arma probably wouldn't set push to talk
06:15 <DrJoeTron> i have it set, dont need to because im on a headset so no ghosting problems.
06:15  * Lucifer_arma probably wouldn't have his mic on anyway
06:15 <DrJoeTron> i have it voice activation on when i need both hands
06:15 <DrJoeTron> and then im stuck breathing through my mouth
06:15 <Lucifer_arma> heh
06:16 <Lucifer_arma> no headset for me, just headphones and a fancy mic stand
06:16 <DrJoeTron> haha oh i know ;)
06:16 <Lucifer_arma> but I wouldn't have the mic on anyway, kids are sleeping and stuff.
06:16 <DrJoeTron> GP Cristi was banned for some reason Your_mom_arma 
06:16 <Lucifer_arma> after I get far enough in my drafting class I'm going to take inventory of the wood outside
06:17 <DrJoeTron> it says for flood control and was banned for 5 minutes
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> and design a really nice little hutch that'll let me bolt the boom on so I can put the stand away
06:17 <DrJoeTron> haha cool
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> Cristy being banned isn't a loss, though.  And it's never a bug.
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> *Cristi
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> Cristi: I got autobanned by joe's server
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> Me: That's not a bug, it's a feature.
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> so, I have to do an earth radius (with speed) problem or a hair-growing problem, and I'm not interested in either of them :/
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> will my teacher kill me if I just do different problems than he assigned?
06:21 <GodTodd> do the hair-growing problem....the answer is rogaine
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> "How long will it be until his next trip to the barber shop?"  Rogaine.
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> actually it's not either/or, I have to do both of them.  I'm doing the earth radius problem and hating it.
06:22 <GodTodd> well...if the hair is growing...then it's not really a problem, is it? :P
06:22 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma if you wanna meet a fun T, D member nows your chance in my server! :D
06:22 <DrJoeTron> hurry or il ban him :/
06:23 <GodTodd> i really should be doing the third section of trig homework :/
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> #g 10m/minute in m/s
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> #g 10/60
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> is armabot not here?
06:24 <GodTodd> nope
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> man
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> I refuse to convert m/min to m/s
06:25 <GodTodd> you need to fix that attitude, mister ;)
06:25 <GodTodd> heh
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> I hve to throw off digits if I do the conversion, I don't have to if I don't
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> therefore, even with sigfigs, my answer is more accurate
06:27 <DrJoeTron> Luke-Jr still wanna harp on that kid to get your money?
06:27 <DrJoeTron> cause i have his ip
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> what's annoying is that they want average velocity of a person at the equator, and I want to answer in angular velocity but they want it in linear velocity
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> (because the answer is 2pi/day in angular velocity, heh)
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> :1
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> er, sorry
06:30 <GodTodd> heh
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> ack, wait a minute.  I need average velocity and average speed
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> arg!
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> this really fucking hurts.  So, the kid starts with 1.5 cm hair
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> it grows at the rate of 2.0cm/month
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> how long before he has to cut it again if he wants to cut it at 3.5 cm?
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> ONE MONTH
06:41 <GodTodd> hahaha
06:41  * Lucifer_arma is annoyed now
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> better make sure to answer "1.0 months" and see if I can annoy my teacher
06:41 <GodTodd> convert it to seconds :)
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> nah, then I have to ask how long a month is
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> I could do 1/12 year though
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> I should have said fuck it and signed up for the engineering physics class :/
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> too late now, though
06:43 <GodTodd> yep
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> and there's supposed to be good stuff ahead still
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> we're still in the "learning how to learn physics" part of the class, which should wrap up this week (I hope)
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> word to the wise: if you're going to take algebra-based physics, take it now while you're in trig, or next semester
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> because after you hit calc, it's going to feel genuinely insulting for a little bit
06:44 <GodTodd> well...too late now...maybe next semester tho
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> you might see if they care that much.  I've been talking to a couple of guys in engineering physics that say they could've skipped algebra-based physics
06:45 <GodTodd> heh...i had to borrow a calculator from my father in law
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> to satisfy the "no graphing calculator" requirement?
06:46 <GodTodd> cuz my ti-92 is too advanced for the trig tests
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, that one might be too advanced for calc too
06:46 <GodTodd> nah...they require graphing...just no algebraic abilities
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> they want a graphing calculator for trig?  wtf?
06:46 <GodTodd> yep
06:46 <GodTodd> it's in the syllabus
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> in calc 1 they required a graphing calculator for us, but before that it ws "no graphing calculators allowed!"
06:47 <GodTodd> the book even has problems saying "on your graphing calculator" blah blah blah
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> heh, I hate those
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> I can rtfm thankyouverymuch
06:48 <GodTodd> i refused to do the finding various points on a circle...it was just how to read the fucking thing
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> ?  but a circle isn't a function...
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> what really irritates me is that nobody let me use my pda as my calculator
06:49 <GodTodd> heh
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> so are you going to do polar coordinates in trig?  ;)
06:49 <GodTodd> i think so
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> we touched on it at the end, mostly focused on what the polar system looks like and how to convert between it and cartesian
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> today in my calc 3 class a lot of kids got lost when my teacher "reviewed" polar coordinates
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> I feel like I know something the rest of my class doesn't know, and I suspect a lot of kids will soon be dropping
06:51 <GodTodd> yeah...that's probably what we'll do...we cover them the last two weeks before the final
06:52 <Lucifer_arma> parametric equations too?
06:53 <GodTodd> heh...last week my c++ class was standing room only and this week there were 5-10 empty seats ;)
06:53 <GodTodd> last chapter is complex numbers and polar coordinates
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06:55 <Luke-Jr> DrJoeTron: eh, sure
06:55 <Luke-Jr> DrJoeTron: more interested in annoying him than getting the money, honestly =p
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> I'm expecting my calc class to thin a bit, but I'm not expecting any of my other classes to thin at all
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> I've got US Gov, drafting, and physics.  I suppose the physics class *might* thin some, but I don't see it
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> not if those kids have their math, anyway
07:13 <Lucifer_arma> who drops a government class?
07:13 <Lucifer_arma> and then all the coursework for the drafting class is done in-class under the teacher's supervision, you'd have to really screw up to have to drop that class
07:14 <GodTodd> heh
07:14 <Lucifer_arma> oh good, chapter 3 has vectors in it, that means teh class is looking up now :)
07:14 <GodTodd> wtf doesn't this book simplify the fucking radical ever?
07:14 <GodTodd> it's annoying as hell
07:14 <Lucifer_arma> what radical isn't it simplifying?
07:14 <GodTodd> the one in the denominator
07:15 <Lucifer_arma> it's not rationalizing the denominator?  ;)
07:15 <GodTodd> yep
07:15 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, it's better not to when you're dealing with the special angles
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> you know, sin pi/4 = 1/csc pi/4 = sqrt(2)/2
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> so csc pi/4 = 2/sqrt(2)
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> not that I memorized 'em that way, I memorized them with rationalized denominators :)
07:17 <GodTodd> luckily i'm a fart smeller that knows that (2*sqrt(3))/3 == 2/sqrt(3)
07:18 <Lucifer_arma> hmm, my trig book rationalized denominators.  Maybe it's just that one section and they'll go back to anal retentiveness next section
07:18 <GodTodd> hahaha
07:18 <GodTodd> maybe
07:18 <GodTodd> my teacher wants them rationalized so that's how i'm doing them
07:18 <GodTodd> :)
07:19 <GodTodd> right now i'm in the challenging 'six trig functions' section
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> man, trig gets really fun after the boring shit in the beginning
07:20 <GodTodd> tho...i do have a question...cot is the inverse of tan right?
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> nope
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> reciprocal
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> don't get those two mixed up!
07:20 <GodTodd> that's what i meant
07:20 <GodTodd> heh
07:20 <GodTodd> i know
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> well, what you said was cot(tan(x)) = x :)
07:20 <GodTodd> anyway...if that's so...why is cos NOT the reciprocal of sin?
07:21 <GodTodd> yeah...we'll hit inverses :)
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> the relationship of a cofunction isn't a reciprocal relationship
07:21 <GodTodd> and if you say some geometry proof i'll hit you :)
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> well, ahem
07:21 <GodTodd> *thwap*
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> sin(x) = cos(90-x)
07:22 <GodTodd> *thwap*
07:22  * Lucifer_arma smiles :)
07:22  * GodTodd HATED geometry. :/
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> at least I gave it to you in degrees
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> didn't you have Mr. Barry for geometry?
07:22 <GodTodd> nope
07:22 <GodTodd> mrs. reyes
07:23 <GodTodd> algebra and geometry
07:23 <Lucifer_arma> oh.  never had her for a class
07:24 <GodTodd> maybe i would have liked geometry better with a better teacher...dunno
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> hard to say, geometry's a sucky class anyway
07:24 <GodTodd> true
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> you don't have enough math to do anything cool, but you're bombarded with weird problems
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> trig is much better, you'll do lots of cool shit there :)
07:24 <GodTodd> i hope so....this is essentially the third time i'm taking it
07:25 <Lucifer_arma> and it's so damn useful, too.  you go back to trig in every class after that
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> it's like a bucket of water thrown on you to cool you down in the middle of the semester
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> refreshing :)
07:26 <GodTodd> yeah...i can see trig being useful
07:27 <GodTodd> all i remember about geometry is drawing a bunch of shapes and reproving shit that i wasn't questioning :/
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> proofs are over for now.  You'll probably still derive shit, but not like geometry proofs
07:27 <GodTodd> good...then i should coast :)
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> and you'll do identities more than likely, you need those for calculus when you have to do trig substitution
07:28 <Lucifer_arma> it's a completely worthless thing, these trig identities, but the skill you're building is very useful
07:28 <GodTodd> at least algebra and trig are used
07:28 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know, I liked my trig class a lot because there was a lot of visualization
07:28 <GodTodd> geometry is the red headed stepchild
07:29 <Lucifer_arma> the first step for nearly every problem is "draw a picture" :)
07:29 <GodTodd> yeah...i've noticed that
07:29 <Lucifer_arma> well, geometry is a base
07:29 <GodTodd> i like that
07:29 <Lucifer_arma> we did some applications in calc 2 that used a lot of trig that were the same way, 1. Draw a picture :)
07:29 <hiab> geometry is where you lear proofs
07:29 <hiab> and proofs are the most important part of math
07:30 <Lucifer_arma> only if you're going to study more math ;)
07:30 <hiab> only if you care about beauty :D
07:30 <Lucifer_arma> if you're just taking math so you can go use it out in the Real World, who needs a stinkin' proof?
07:30 <GodTodd> exactly
07:30 <Lucifer_arma> I don't need to prove why my ratchet works before I unbolt your CD player
07:30 <GodTodd> i'll take the word of those math geeks from hundreds of years ago
07:31 <hiab> why are you stealing my cd player
07:31 <hiab> :(
07:31 <Lucifer_arma> ah, you need a proof, sorry
07:31 <Lucifer_arma> big daddy don't do proofs
07:31 <GodTodd> although....if people had to prove how a computer worked before using it....the internet would be a LOT more intelligent ;)
07:31 <Lucifer_arma> and empty
07:32 <GodTodd> true
07:32 <hiab> if people had to know how a car worked before driving
07:32 <hiab> that woudl be cool
07:32 <Lucifer_arma> nah, I'll take some basic understanding of motion over knowing shit about how a car works
07:32 <GodTodd> laws of motion?
07:33 <Lucifer_arma> an example in my physics book is "the blazer stops at 7.2m/s, and the celica at 9.8, what's the safe distance for the blazer to follow the celica?"  That's what I'm talking about
07:33 <GodTodd> #g 6400+3600
07:33 <hiab> obv as close as possible
07:33  * Lucifer_arma drives a celica
07:33 <GodTodd> armabot: 10,000
07:33 <GodTodd> k
07:33 <hiab> is there a big triangle somewhere
07:33 <GodTodd> bermuda
07:34 <hiab> i don't think bermuda is a right triangle
07:34 <Lucifer_arma> you didn't specify right triangle
07:34 <hiab> well he added two squares and got a third :o
07:34 <Lucifer_arma> who needs a right triangle?
07:34 <hiab> i assumed
07:34 <Lucifer_arma> oh, heh
07:34 <GodTodd> it is tho
07:34 <GodTodd> heh
07:35 <GodTodd> (60,80) on the terminal side of the angle
07:35 <GodTodd> have to find the trig functions
07:35 <GodTodd> boring
07:35 <GodTodd> so far
07:35 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, that part is pretty boring
07:35 <Lucifer_arma> and tedious
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> boring and tedious
07:36 <GodTodd> yep :/
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> but after you wade through it, man oh man.  I felt sorry for the kids that found that part too boring and tedious,
07:36 <hiab> sin(x)^2 + cos(x)^2 = 1,000,000
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> then later on they couldn't find sin and cos in a triangle
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> you're gonna need units to justify that statement, bugboy
07:37 <hiab> 1,000,000 micro-ones
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07:40 <Lucifer_arma> hi pig
07:40 <groundpig> Hi
07:40 <Your_mom_arma> hi
07:41 <GodTodd> hi
07:41 <groundpig> Your_mom_arma: i had an idea for a more optimized CTF map, but then i got distracted
07:41 <groundpig> so i got nothing
07:41 <Your_mom_arma> haha
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> "Oh, hey, I can do a better CTF map....look, a shiny thing"
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07:42 <groundpig> but i did just go and port all of the CTF / StyBall, etc... code together so I could actually post a patch
07:42 <Your_mom_arma> you kept talking about recessed spawn points thats all i remember
07:42 <groundpig> Lucifer_arma: hehe, pigs have a short attention span
07:43 <Lucifer_arma> not the flying kind :)
07:43 <groundpig> yes yes, recessed spawn points are the ticket, if only i could remember why
07:43 <Lucifer_arma> are you supposed to take the flag back to your spawn point?
07:44 <groundpig> back to your base
07:44 <groundpig> each team has a base and a flag
07:44 <Lucifer_arma> hey, you should modify your hack so that anybody named Jesus can't respawn for 3 days
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07:45 <groundpig> i'm not religious, so I won't hold it against him
07:45 <Your_mom_arma> hi
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> hi joda_bot 
07:46 <joda_bot> lol
07:46 <joda_bot> good night (for you?)
07:46 <joda_bot> it's 7:47 am here
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> I"ll let you know after kdm is finished building and I can load a gui
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> you're in GMT+1, right?
07:46 <joda_bot> gmt+2 right now
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> so it's midnight:47 here
07:46 <joda_bot> summer time
07:47 <Your_mom_arma> im still not sure what you wanted changed groundpig
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> I'm in GMT-5 right now
07:47 <joda_bot> ah, hi groundpig
07:47 <groundpig> hi
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> you guys are making too much noise, I'm gonna go read my physics book outside
07:47 <Your_mom_arma> who left the front door open
07:48 <joda_bot> a long time ago, you told me to have a look at one topic of yours on the forum, guess it was about the soccer style 
07:48 <Your_mom_arma> zall the tron riff raff is getting in
07:48 <groundpig> i was just thinking about making the spawn point back further, but then i lost interest
07:48 <joda_bot> I've never been able to find it, but I haven't searched the forums throughly
07:48 <groundpig> hey the soccer style
07:48 <groundpig> StyBall
07:49 <joda_bot> Where does the Sty come from ?
07:49 <groundpig> funny you should mention, i just took down CTF and put up StyBall about 20 minutes ago
07:49 <Your_mom_arma> pigsty
07:49 <joda_bot> hehe
07:49 <groundpig> people keep logging in and saying bad things to me about it
07:50 <DrJoeTron> SWEET!
07:51 <DrJoeTron> the community fears change groundpig 
07:51 <joda_bot> groundpig: did you submit any patches of the code - I wouldn't mind having your versions atleast in a branch of the armagetronad repository
07:51 <joda_bot> groundpig: hehe, yeah because they liked fortress best
07:51 <joda_bot> ehhh, CTF ;)
07:51 <groundpig> thats what i've been doing the past couple of days, getting an acceptable patch ready to post
07:51 <joda_bot> cool
07:51 <joda_bot> That will be against which branch ?
07:51 <joda_bot> or version ?
07:58  * joda_bot thinks USA fell asleep ;) good night
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08:06 <Your_mom_arma> they all just went in pigs server
08:13 <groundpig> joda_bot: patch will be against branch from svn
08:13 <groundpig> gotta sleep, cyas
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08:13 <spidey> what time is it o.o
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08:27 <DrJoeTron> see ya guys
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08:29 <Lucifer_arma> I'd be in pig's server if I had a gui right now
08:30 <Lucifer_arma> aww man, I missed the commiserating over how the community hates any/all change
08:31 <joda_bot> Lucifer_arma: You've got my condolence
08:31 <Lucifer_arma> joda_bot: thanks
08:31  * Lucifer_arma is considering going to sleep himself, have to be up at 9am to catch the bus
08:32 <joda_bot> Lucifer_arma: they just love to have a good server of for each game mode, constantly and without quirks (makes sense to me ;))
08:32 <Lucifer_arma> but I want to boot into a gui first
08:32 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I know that's what they want, but to get that, everybody needs to run his own server
08:32 <Lucifer_arma> seriously
08:32 <Lucifer_arma> because folks that run servers like to make changes every now and then, especially developers testing shit
08:33 <joda_bot> I guess I'm going to host an access point ;) http://en.fon.com/info/whats_fon.php
08:33 <Lucifer_arma> heh, I'll try to remember that when I get a gui back
08:34 <Lucifer_arma> fucking expat changed its name, so now I have to recompile everything
08:34 <Lucifer_arma> I'm starting to feel more burned by gentoo than helped :(
08:34 <joda_bot> oh right, sorry, ... but you can read it with links links2 or lynx;)
08:34 <joda_bot> Lucifer_arma:  been there ;)
08:35 <joda_bot> i like some features of gentoo which should be available on any OS but some are just too much work, e.g. merging configfiles by hand, recompiling so much code ;)
08:35 <Lucifer_arma> well, the recompiling is automated, and the merging config files by hand isn't that bad really
08:36 <Lucifer_arma> there's a nice tool that shows you diffs and you can elect to merge the diff or not
08:36 <Lucifer_arma> what's really irritating me is that updating isn't as simple as "run the updater, reboot"
08:36 <Lucifer_arma> they say it is.  Everyone here that uses gentoo has said it is, and it says so in the gentoo docs
08:36 <Lucifer_arma> but that's not reality
08:37 <Lucifer_arma> I ran a simple update, and now I have to recompile 264 packages before I can get a gui, possibly
08:37 <Lucifer_arma> I tried just recompiling kdm and switching my display manager over to kdm, but that was still 27 packages and it's still running
08:38 <Lucifer_arma> had I shown up to my government class today, I'd have been screwed
08:38 <Lucifer_arma> I was about to go order me a nokia 770 after I tried talking it over with my wife and she kept changing the subject, so I can use it as a backup note-taker
08:38 <Lucifer_arma> I'd have needed it today, heh
08:40 <joda_bot> eh, what about the nokia and the goverment class, I don't really get the issue there
08:40 <joda_bot> Why would you have been screwed ?
08:40 <Lucifer_arma> ah, heh, this is kinda dumb.  I ran the update last night, right?  but didn't reboot
08:40 <joda_bot> and the nokia stuff is unrealted ?
08:40 <Lucifer_arma> sorta
08:41 <Lucifer_arma> see, I'm looking for a new note-taker for that class and other lecture classes like it where I use a keyboard for my note-taking
08:41 <joda_bot> ah so, you could use it for goverment class but failed to use it afterwards ?
08:41 <Lucifer_arma> the nokia 770 is the prime candidate
08:41 <Lucifer_arma> no, well, see, I don't have one yet.
08:41 <Lucifer_arma> this morning I didn't go to my government class, so I didn't reboot my laptop until I got home from my calc class
08:42 <joda_bot> ah, ok so you switched topics after "it's still running" ... got it now
08:42 <Lucifer_arma> at which time I found it ws broken.  Had I gone to my government class, the computer would have been broken and I'd have had no backup
08:42 <Lucifer_arma> so I'm looking at a nokia 770 for note-taking.  I'd need a keyboard for it still, but I might be able to use it for math classes too since it's a real tablet
08:42 <Lucifer_arma> I need to see one in person, I think
08:44 <joda_bot> I got a 2kg notebook and up to now, I'm quite happy 
08:44 <joda_bot> especially since it has a geforce 7400 so, I've got some graphics power too
08:44 <Lucifer_arma> this thing's about 7 lbs
08:44 <Lucifer_arma> too bad armabot's not here, I'd try to convert that, heh
08:44 <joda_bot> (which I need for university cg programming not for arma *hehe*)
08:44 <joda_bot> 4lbs is my
08:44 <Lucifer_arma> the computer by itself isn't bad, it's when I stick it in the backback with the calc and physics textbooks
08:45 <Lucifer_arma> those are substantial textbooks!
08:45 <joda_bot> 2.0 kilograms = 4.40924524 pounds
08:45 <Lucifer_arma> aha
08:45 <Lucifer_arma> the tablet pcs I looked at generally came in around 3lbs, which is less than a kg for you
08:45 <Lucifer_arma> but they're freaking expensive
08:46 <Lucifer_arma> but I'd gladly trade my notebook for one :)
08:46 <joda_bot> well, it's quite robust, but I've got some DIN A4 (about US Letter) sized Stuff inside my backpack + the notebook without any problems
08:46 <Lucifer_arma> everything fits, I bought a backpack designed to take a notebook computer in it
08:46 <Lucifer_arma> it's just heavy
08:47 <Lucifer_arma> probably comes in somewheres around 25 lbs
08:47 <joda_bot> ugh
08:47 <Lucifer_arma> which is quite a bit of weight to carry around campus
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08:47 <joda_bot> I really did ponder my decision for a long time and did extensive research, but now I'm really happy ;)
08:48 <joda_bot> It's a ASUS W7J btw.
08:48 <Lucifer_arma> I wish I'd have done my research and bought a tablet pc at the outset
08:48 <joda_bot> I'm not sure, I'd be using any of the tablet features
08:48 <Lucifer_arma> heh, I stumbled across an asus of some sort last night
08:48 <Lucifer_arma> well, most of the tablets have keyboards attached, they're basically laptops with touch-screens
08:48 <Lucifer_arma> where you can fold the screen over the keyboard
08:48 <joda_bot> perhaps you can rent a tablet to test it for a day
08:48 <Lucifer_arma> there are a few at the low end that lack keyboards completely
08:49 <joda_bot> just to see if it makes sense
08:49 <Lucifer_arma> just on weight the damn things are worth it.
08:49 <joda_bot> Is it possible to order them in the US and return them in the first two weeks ?
08:49 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, but it's a pain.  Better to just commit myself to one and if I don't like it, stick it on ebay
08:49 <joda_bot> Ah, you're talking about the UMPCs ?
08:49 <Lucifer_arma> I can still recover around 80% of the price of this laptop if I sell it
08:49 <Lucifer_arma> UMPC?
08:51 <Lucifer_arma> the real problem is I'd have to front $1000 USD to get one, and I might get $600 for this notebook, but that's not a guarantee
08:51  * guru3_ points to his 770
08:51 <joda_bot> ultra mobile pc, there is some MS / Intel based standard going on
08:51 <joda_bot> something like that
08:51 <Lucifer_arma> guru3_: how's that 770 working out for you?  you using it for note-taking?
08:51 <guru3_> im not in an environment that i need to take notes yet
08:52 <guru3_> but you could
08:52 <Lucifer_arma> ah, ok.  how big is the screen?  :)
08:52 <guru3_> 800x480
08:52 <guru3_> about like... 4 or 5 inches
08:52 <Lucifer_arma> I've seen measurements and tried visualizing it, but it's not terribly helpful
08:52 <guru3_> the whole device
08:52 <guru3_> is the size of my hand
08:53 <Lucifer_arma> does it have handwriting recognition?  Of course, for real note-taking I'd want a keyboard still
08:53 <guru3_> yes
08:53 <Lucifer_arma> philippe linked me a very nice bluetooth infrared/laser keyboard :)
08:53 <guru3_> that would work with it too
08:53 <joda_bot> O.o bluetooth infrared/laser keyboard ?
08:54 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, it's really neat
08:54  * joda_bot just imagines the combinataion
08:54 <Lucifer_arma> the laser is used to project the keyboard onto a flat surface
08:54 <Lucifer_arma> the infrared is used to detect keypresses
08:54 <joda_bot> oh lol
08:54 <Lucifer_arma> on that flat surface.  So the device itself is the size of a cigarette lighter
08:54 <guru3_> ive seen that too
08:54 <guru3_> tried using it sort of in a shop once
08:54 <joda_bot> just thought of a optical keyboard like a mouse but your descriptions makes it useful
08:55 <Lucifer_arma> at $200 I'd have to see it in person before I bought it
08:55 <joda_bot> have you read anything about problems ppl have using it ?
08:55 <Lucifer_arma> no, couldn't find much on it besides what the company itself said about it :/
08:55 <joda_bot> because from what I've read many ppl in the computer industry tend to stay away from such gadgets for notetaking and just use a phone to call and a small notebook to type ;)
08:56 <Lucifer_arma> well, I am trying to push the fold a bit
08:56 <guru3_> despite that i'm all techy
08:56 <Lucifer_arma> I checked out xournal, and it looks like a program that would make it possible for me to take my math notes on a tablet
08:56 <guru3_> i still use pencil & paper for notes
08:57 <Lucifer_arma> well, I can type faster than most people can talk, so it's ideal for a lot of note-taking for me to type
08:57 <guru3_> i cant :S
08:57 <Lucifer_arma> the only problem is when the teacher talks slow and screws up his sentences so I have to think about how to write it
08:57 <Lucifer_arma> but I'd have to do that anyway, so it's not a problem specific to typing notes
08:58 <Lucifer_arma> so this 4-5 inches on the screen, is that horizontal, vertical, or diagonal?
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09:01 <Lucifer_arma> to be honest, I'm halfway considering replacing my clie with an older model that uses regular alkaline batteries and a keyboard
09:01 <Lucifer_arma> because 8 hours of battery life is more important to me right now than a fancy screen
09:03 <guru3_> g2g
09:03 <guru3_> l8r
09:03 <joda_bot> clie ?
09:04 <joda_bot> cu guru3_
09:04 <Lucifer_arma> I have an older sony clie pda that's having some trouble charging off and on
09:06 <Lucifer_arma> so when it charges I'm all happy with it, and when it doesn't I'm looking to replace it
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09:20 <DrJoeTron> i need inspiration
09:21 <DrJoeTron> i need to make a new avatar for the tron boards
09:21 <DrJoeTron> i wanna make one equally as retarded as the first one  i made
09:22 <Lucifer_arma> why don't you try to make one even more retarded than that one?
09:22 <DrJoeTron> because i cant!
09:22 <Lucifer_arma> sure you can
09:22 <Lucifer_arma> can't is a bad word
09:22 <DrJoeTron> im trying to top it
09:22 <DrJoeTron> right now involves dinosaurs wearing sun glasses
09:22 <DrJoeTron> rockin out
09:23 <DrJoeTron> i think i might make another mega man one
09:23 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, then drop a big meteor on them, big explosion, then show light cycles driving around
09:23 <DrJoeTron> haha
09:23 <DrJoeTron> Life before tron
09:24 <Lucifer_arma> do one of megaman crashing a hangglider into one of the trade center towers
09:24 <DrJoeTron> no eagle desserves to watch!
09:24 <Lucifer_arma> um, that's a lan address, DrJoeTron 
09:25 <DrJoeTron> it should work
09:25 <Lucifer_arma> um, no, it shouldn't, unless I'm connected to *your* lan
09:25 <DrJoeTron> damn hfs
09:25 <DrJoeTron> alright, time to send it to the other machine
09:25 <Lucifer_arma> well, I don't have a gui right now
09:25 <Lucifer_arma> can't look at it anyway
09:26 <Lucifer_arma> who was megaman's bad guy?
09:26 <Lucifer_arma> do megaman as a suicide bomber on his evil adversary
09:26 <Lucifer_arma> heh, do mario suicide bombing donkey kong :)
09:26 <DrJoeTron> hahaha
09:26 <DrJoeTron> now im pissed offbecause hfs doesnt work
09:26 <Lucifer_arma> hfs?
09:27 <DrJoeTron> http file server
09:29  * Lucifer_arma is pissed because expat changed its name ondisk and broke everything
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09:44 <Lucifer_arma> yay, I cheated and now I have a gui again
09:47 <DrJoeTron> fixed!
09:50 <DrJoeTron> maybe this should be it
09:51 <DrJoeTron>  bbl
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09:57 <joda_bo1> @lucifer changed the order of emerges ?
09:57 <Lucifer_arma> nah, symbolic link to the expat library that's there under the new name
09:58 <joda_bo1> @ DrJoeTron: the link is broken
10:05 <wrtlprnft> #morning
10:06 <wrtlprnft> #later tell *mom* It's no problem on the render side, but we need to sort out how and where to store these files first :(
10:07 <wrtlprnft> err
10:07 <wrtlprnft> where's armabot?
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10:16 <wrtlprnft> looks like my server's power supply is too weak :(
10:19 <wrtlprnft> there we go
10:19 <wrtlprnft> taking out the unused sound card and unplugging a CD drive helped
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10:23 <wrtlprnft> #morning armabot 
10:23 <armabot> Good Morning wrtlprnft Random Fortune: "Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for you are crunchy and good || with ketchup."
10:23 <wrtlprnft> #later tell *mom* It's no problem on the render side, but we need to sort out how and where to store these files first :(
10:23 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
10:39 <wrtlprnft> #later tell *joda* the new videos are uploaded now…
10:39 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
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12:09 <spidey> before tonight
12:09 <spidey> my room was a fire hazzard
12:09 <spidey> now, it's a organized fire hazzard
12:29 <spidey> #ping
12:29 <armabot> pong
12:29 <spidey> hmm
12:41 <wrtlprnft> ?
12:44 <spidey> esd seeing what my delay was
12:44 <spidey> not bad, but my connection is still sucking
12:44 <spidey> #ping
12:44 <armabot> pong
12:44 <spidey> about 5-6 seconds
12:45 <wrtlprnft> 12:45 CTCP PING reply from spidey: 0.495 seconds
12:45 <spidey> nah
12:45 <wrtlprnft> don't trust armabot's pings for tinḿing
12:45 <wrtlprnft> *timing
12:45 <spidey> heh
12:45 <spidey> i don't think that's the realy time
12:45 <wrtlprnft> supybot is slooooow
12:45 <spidey> i edited my ctcp replies
12:45 <wrtlprnft> your problem.
12:46 <spidey> paypal is taking forever and a day to load
12:46 <spidey> -_-
12:47 <spidey> i think i'ma put busybox on my router
12:47 <spidey> maybe
12:53 <wrtlprnft> fuck
12:53 <spidey> ?
12:53 <wrtlprnft> server went down again
12:53 <wrtlprnft> #ping
12:53 <wrtlprnft> #ping
12:53 <wrtlprnft> #ping
12:53 <spidey> O.o
12:54 <joda_bo1> wrtlprnft: read the message
12:55 <wrtlprnft> joda_bo1: which one?
12:55 <wrtlprnft> armabot's dead right noe
12:55 <wrtlprnft> *now
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12:56 <joda_bot> asdf
12:56 <wrtlprnft> it went down together with my server when I switched on my desktop fan :(
12:56 <joda_bot> wrtlprnft: the one about the videos
12:56 <joda_bot> #notices
12:56 <joda_bot> #notes
12:56 <wrtlprnft> joda_bot: armabot's dead
12:56 <wrtlprnft> 10:49 <armabot> Sent 8 hours and 40 minutes ago: <joda_bot> tested with DIVX and XVID, as DIVX seems to be more common (your_man, drjoetron and me poll) change use --fourcc DIVX
12:56 <wrtlprnft> that one
12:56 <wrtlprnft> ?
12:57 <joda_bot> AH ... my condolence (or whatever the word ist ;))
12:57 <wrtlprnft> about your_man?
12:57 <joda_bot> the one you send just now
12:57 <joda_bot>  #later tell *joda* the new videos are uploaded now…
12:57 <wrtlprnft> aaaaaah
12:57 <joda_bot> :-)
12:58 <wrtlprnft> i understood “read the message” as “there's a message you should read”
12:58 <wrtlprnft> not “I've read the message you sent”
12:58 <joda_bot> so I'm perhaps hosting a fon router, but I'll have to check if it's ok, for the foneros to be send through the tor network ;)
12:58 <joda_bot> that way my ip won't be responsible for most of the troubles the hackery fon users cause
12:59 <joda_bot> image a fon network and each client automatically hosts a onion router for the tor network 
12:59 <joda_bot> that might really generate some serious anonymity ;)
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12:59 <joda_bot> ok bbl
12:59 <wrtlprnft> o_O
12:59 <wrtlprnft> cya
13:00 <wrtlprnft> looks like I'll need a new power supply pretty soon too :(
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13:41 <spidey> MaZuffeR, MaZuffeR MaZuffeR MaZuffeR MaZuffeR 
13:42 <MaZuffeR> ...
13:43 <joda_bot> spidey ...
13:43 <joda_bot> ;)
13:43 <spidey> yes ma'am? :p
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14:35 <wrtlprnft> #ping
14:35 <armabot> pong
14:35 <wrtlprnft> good, still there…
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14:43 <spidey> argh
14:43 <spidey> i gotta move a air conditioner today
14:43 <spidey> a big one :(
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15:27 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r6166 /private/wrtlprnft/armaspyadvanced/armaspyadvanced.py: Closing the main window now only hides it instead of exiting the entire program.
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15:54 <madmax|pt> hello
15:55 <MaZuffeR> hi
15:56 <wrtlprnft> hi
15:58 <spidey> hi
16:02 <spidey> #last --from --nolimit --with spidey
16:02 <armabot> spidey: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 1106 messages.
16:02 <spidey> worth a shot :D
16:02 <wrtlprnft> #last --nolimit --with spidey
16:02 <armabot> wrtlprnft: [18:33:58] <spidey> #last --from --nolimit --with spidey and [16:14:47] <joda_bot> spidey ...
16:02 <spidey> o.o
16:03 <wrtlprnft> spidey: it searched for messages from a user named “--nolimit”
16:03 <spidey> ah
16:03 <spidey> i want my shitty internet back :(
16:03 <spidey> i'm currently on a level beyond shitty -_
16:03 <spidey> -_-
16:04 <spidey> and i can't get dsl now
16:04 <spidey> the whole house is on VoIP :/
16:06 <wrtlprnft> madmax|pt: meano, disabled ctcp version :P
16:06 <spidey> lol
16:09 <madmax|pt> lol
16:15 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: mind removing that navigation extension that doesn't work again? It creates quite a mess in the generated HTML and can't be used in its current state...
16:21 <spidey> may i ask why there's 4 servers on the master list? :p
16:27 <madmax|pt> the so called american "football" has home and away games?
16:28 <spidey> yes...
16:28 <madmax|pt> just wondering :P
16:29 <spidey> lol
16:29 <spidey> i need a lighter
16:29 <MaZuffeR> speaking of football, Portugal will lose against Finland today :p
16:30 <spidey> lol
16:31 <madmax|pt> No it won't!
16:32 <spidey> i don't watch football, but just cause max is for portugal, i bet on finland :D
16:32 <madmax|pt> Ok, maybe, they didnt do a very decent game on the friendly against Denmark
16:32 <madmax|pt> which they lost 4-2 ...
16:32 <MaZuffeR> Finland played great away against Poland
16:33 <madmax|pt> in fact, im not very confident
16:33  * madmax|pt pokes spidey 
16:33  * spidey pile drives madmax|pt 
16:33 <madmax|pt> ooh
16:33 <spidey> :D
16:34 <spidey> madmax|pt, wanna do a test for me?
16:34 <madmax|pt> maybe...
16:35 <spidey> well, i always wondered if sticking your finger in a box fan would hurt....and i need a test dummy
16:35 <madmax|pt> ok no
16:35 <spidey> why not :(
16:36 <madmax|pt> i want to be able to play tron you know?
16:36 <spidey> you'll still have another hand
16:36 <spidey> besides you don't need a ring finger, or pinky finger for tron
16:38 <MaZuffeR> the carrot i'm eating is hollow O_o
16:38 <spidey> ewwwwwwwwwwww carrots
16:40 <MaZuffeR> what ewwwwwwwwwwww about carrots?
16:40 <MaZuffeR> what's*
16:40 <spidey> i don't like them :p
16:40 <spidey> they have no taste and they're a weird crunchy
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16:41 <MaZuffeR> they taste carrot :P
16:41  * spidey pokes Lackadaisical 
16:41 <Lackadaisical> ouch
16:41 <spidey> no, carrots taste like chicken
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16:41  * spidey drop kicks madmax|pt 
16:41 <MaZuffeR> the finnish ones don't
16:41  * madmax|pt definitely needs a phone wire that stays in place
16:42 <spidey> i re did all mine
16:42 <spidey> my isp sucks at it
16:43 <spidey> instead of running to the top floor from the outside, they ran it all the way around the house, drilled a hole in the wall, then ran it upstairs
16:43 <madmax|pt> #last --nolimit
16:43 <armabot> madmax|pt: [19:14:50] <spidey> instead of running to the top floor from the outside, they ran it all the way around the house, drilled a hole in the wall, then ran it upstairs, [19:14:08] <spidey> my isp sucks at it, [19:13:50] <spidey> i re did all mine, [19:13:14] * madmax|pt definitely needs a phone wire that stays in place, [19:13:13] <MaZuffeR> the finnish ones don't, [19:13:06] * spidey drop kicks madmax|pt , (9 more messages)
16:43 <madmax|pt> #more
16:43 <armabot> madmax|pt: [19:12:46] <spidey> no, carrots taste like chicken, [19:12:46] <Lackadaisical> ouch, [19:12:39] * spidey pokes Lackadaisical , [19:12:35] <MaZuffeR> they taste carrot :P, [19:12:19] <spidey> they have no taste and they're a weird crunchy, [19:12:02] <spidey> i don't like them :p, [19:11:56] <MaZuffeR> what's*, [19:11:50] <MaZuffeR> what ewwwwwwwwwwww about carrots?, [19:10:31] <spidey> ewwwwwwwwwwww (8 more messages)
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16:43 <madmax|pt> o_O
16:43 <spidey> lol
16:44 <joda_bot> #ping
16:44 <armabot> pong
16:44 <spidey> pong
16:44 <spidey> #pong
16:44 <spidey> o.o
16:44 <joda_bot> #png
16:44 <joda_bot> #pang
16:44 <madmax|pt> Pang is a nice game
16:45 <madmax|pt> that's what he should say
16:45 <spidey> noooooooooooooo way
16:45  * spidey jumps on madmax|pt 
16:45 <GodTodd> get a room
16:45 <GodTodd> :P
16:45  * spidey hog ties GodTodd  and drags him along
16:45  * joda_bot thinks spidey can't jump high enough to stomp madmax (ala mario vs. lugi :-P)
16:46 <madmax|pt> lol
16:46 <spidey> well, when lugi gets a fire flower he's like super strong
16:46 <spidey> and shoot fireballs
16:46 <spidey> so i still pwn mario
16:46 <spidey> :D
16:48 <madmax|pt> you guys mean luIgi right?
16:48 <spidey> luigi
16:49 <madmax|pt> right
16:49 <spidey> wrong
16:50 <joda_bot> moria and loki ;)
16:51 <spidey> can i be zeus?
16:57 <spidey> i have a strange urge to play donkey kong now
16:58 <joda_bot> not my fault ;)
16:58 <spidey> is to
16:58 <spidey> even though i'ma blame max
17:00 <joda_bot> no, he's not responsible either, I guess... sue nintendo :-P 
17:00 <spidey> maybe
17:00 <spidey> but i want to blame max
17:01 <spidey> so max is now the blame
17:01 <spidey> ;x
17:01 <joda_bot> ok, can I blame min ?
17:01 <spidey> min?
17:01 <joda_bot> and max you should blame average ;)
17:01 <spidey> max doesn't get to blame anyone
17:02 <spidey> unless it's Lackadaisical 
17:02 <madmax|pt> i get to kill spidey in the end though
17:02 <joda_bot> he won't blame anyone because he is wise ;)
17:02 <joda_bot> lol, without regret
17:02 <spidey> joda_bot, no, he won't blame anyone cause he doesn't have a choice :D
17:02 <spidey> madmax|pt, can't kill me, i'm a spider :p
17:02 <joda_bot> eh ?
17:02 <spidey> i'll fly off in a webbed balloon!!
17:02 <joda_bot> mad ppl can do anything;)
17:03 <spidey> including getting sent to a psych word
17:03 <spidey> :D
17:03 <madmax|pt> you're a spider, not spiderman
17:03 -!- spidey is now known as spiderman
17:03 <spiderman> pwn
17:03 <madmax|pt> thats just acting :P
17:03 <spiderman> lies
17:03 -!- spiderman is now known as someone
17:04 -!- someone is now known as someone-else
17:04 <joda_bot> hm, now I'm not sure who is mad here ... 
17:04 <joda_bot> ;)
17:04 <someone-else> elohel
17:04 <someone-else> :p
17:04 <madmax|pt> lol
17:04 <madmax|pt> venom was cool :|
17:05 <someone-else> who?
17:05 -!- You're now known as x_X
17:05 <someone-else> i have candel wax all over my desk
17:05 <madmax|pt> although he was sick
17:05 <madmax|pt> http://www.antaninet.it/marvel-universe/v/venom.jpg
17:05 <someone-else> hmmm
17:05 <someone-else> it won't let me change my name o.o
17:05 -!- someone-else is now known as spidey
17:06 <madmax|pt> why do you want candel wax all over your desk?
17:06 -!- spidey is now known as O_o
17:06 <O_o> that works i guess
17:07 <O_o> yehaw
17:07 <x_X> o_O
17:07 <madmax|pt> lol
17:07 <O_o> X_o
17:07 <O_o> X_x
17:07 <x_X> ÷_×
17:07 <x_X> ¤_¤
17:07 <madmax|pt> ™_™
17:08 <x_X> ¨_¨
17:08 <x_X> √_√
17:08 <O_o> Ó_ó
17:08 <madmax|pt> ©_©
17:09 <O_o> mine's cooler
17:09 <O_o> it has eyebrows
17:09 <O_o> Ó_ó
17:09 <madmax|pt> mine has true eyes
17:09 <madmax|pt> ©_©
17:09 <x_X> ǒ_Ō
17:09 <O_o> ¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦
17:09 <madmax|pt> õ_õ
17:09 <O_o> ¡¡
17:09 <x_X> ȯ_Ǫ
17:10 <guru3> you guys are psychotic
17:10 <x_X> x_X
17:10 <O_o> ?_?
17:10 <O_o> lol
17:10 <madmax|pt> *_*
17:10 <x_X> ő_Ő
17:10 <madmax|pt> hey, thats a version of mine
17:10 <x_X> ð_ø
17:11 -!- You're now known as wrtlprnft
17:11 <wrtlprnft> before whoever owns the nick x_X ghostkills me
17:11 <O_o> X_x is taken
17:11 <O_o> lol
17:12 <O_o> -NickServ- The nickname [o_O] is already registered
17:12 <O_o> :<
17:12 -!- O_o is now known as spiderman
17:12 <wrtlprnft> 17:12 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)-          Registered: 1 year 39 weeks 5 days (17h 1m 47s) ago
17:12 <wrtlprnft> 17:12 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)-           Last Seen: 1 year 39 weeks 5 days (16h 27m 29s) ago
17:13 <wrtlprnft> i guess the chances he kicks me are pretty slim
17:13 <spiderman> O.o
17:13 <spiderman> æ_æ
17:13 <wrtlprnft> 17:12 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)-            Nickname: x_x
17:13 <wrtlprnft> 17:12 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)-          Registered: 1 year 39 weeks 5 days (17h 1m 47s) ago
17:13 <wrtlprnft> 17:12 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)-           Last Seen: 1 year 39 weeks 5 days (16h 27m 29s) ago
17:13 <wrtlprnft> ¶_¶
17:14 <wrtlprnft> »_«
17:14 <spiderman> ?_?
17:14 <wrtlprnft> Ω_Ω
17:14 <madmax|pt> π_π
17:14 <wrtlprnft> heh
17:14 <spiderman> ?_?
17:14 <wrtlprnft> i think my keyboard could use a pi key
17:14 <wrtlprnft> ≠≤≥<>=+-÷×√∛±
17:15 <spiderman> ø_ø
17:15 <wrtlprnft> that's what i have right now
17:15 <spiderman> i don't have anything
17:15 <spiderman> i use a char chart
17:15 <spiderman> :p
17:15 <spiderman> «_»
17:15 <madmax|pt> ıo_oı
17:15 <madmax|pt> o_O
17:15 <wrtlprnft> ¹²³_³²¹
17:16 <spiderman> ¼+½-¾*½
17:16 <wrtlprnft> anyways, just need to find a spot to bind it to
17:16 <spiderman> hmm
17:16 <wrtlprnft> ←↓→↑
17:16 <spiderman> #g ¼+½-¾*½
17:16 <armabot> Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
17:16 <wrtlprnft> lame
17:16 <spiderman> :<
17:16 <wrtlprnft> so, where do i put it?
17:16 <wrtlprnft> p is already taken
17:16 <spiderman> scroll lock
17:17 <wrtlprnft> nah, that's my ctrl key
17:17 <spiderman> ...
17:17 <spiderman> wtf
17:17 <wrtlprnft> oh, i have ∞ too
17:17 <spiderman> tab?
17:18 <spiderman> shift
17:18 <wrtlprnft> spiderman: spiderman spiderman spiderman spiderman spiderman no
17:18 <spiderman> windows logo key?
17:18 <wrtlprnft> i just need to find some char i don't need
17:19 <spiderman> if i was to use your keyboard layout i'd end up smashing it
17:19 <wrtlprnft> ĸĸĸĸĸĸĸĸĸĸĸĸĸ ← what's that key, anyways?
17:19 <spiderman> ?
17:20 <spiderman> gah
17:20 <spiderman> i can't focus
17:20 <wrtlprnft> hah, got one
17:20 <wrtlprnft> m
17:20 <wrtlprnft> it's already got µ
17:20 <spiderman> i increased text size to 11 and it's still fuckin blurry
17:21 <madmax|pt> •
17:21 <madmax|pt> hm
17:22 <spiderman> #night
17:22 <armabot> Good night spiderman!
17:22 <wrtlprnft> ah, bullet sign might be useful too
17:22 <wrtlprnft> good.
17:23 <wrtlprnft> ππ∎∎
17:23 <wrtlprnft> err
17:23 <madmax|pt> spidey's sense is tingling
17:24 <wrtlprnft> that's the wrong bullet
17:24 <madmax|pt> ⁄
17:24 <madmax|pt> o.O
17:24 <wrtlprnft> yeah, you typed another one
17:24 <madmax|pt> •••••••
17:25 <wrtlprnft> ••••
17:25 <wrtlprnft> there we go
17:25 <wrtlprnft> bound to shift-altgr-ä now
17:25 <madmax|pt> ◊
17:25 <wrtlprnft> and pi to shift-altgr-m
17:25 <wrtlprnft> that one's useless
17:25 <wrtlprnft> i only need useful ones
17:25 <madmax|pt> lol
17:25 <wrtlprnft> sure i could copy and paste tons of useless chars from kcharselect
17:25 <madmax|pt> maybe nice for ◊_◊
17:26 <madmax|pt> ok, no
17:26 <madmax|pt> lol
17:26 <wrtlprnft> ⚉_⚉
17:26 <madmax|pt> ooh
17:26 <wrtlprnft> ⚡_⚡
17:26 <wrtlprnft> ☉_☉
17:26 <wrtlprnft> ☢_☢
17:26 <wrtlprnft> ☠_☠
17:26 <madmax|pt> i have '…' :o 
17:27 <wrtlprnft> ☀_☀
17:27 <wrtlprnft> ……………
17:27 <wrtlprnft> bound to altgr-ä
17:27 <madmax|pt> ... …
17:27 <wrtlprnft> i like … more :)
17:27 <wrtlprnft> oh, i have – and —
17:27 <madmax|pt> i like it too
17:27 <wrtlprnft> altgr-- and shift-altgr--
17:27 <madmax|pt> and it's easy, never noticed it
17:28  * wrtlprnft hugs xmodmap
17:28 <wrtlprnft> though you apparently can't map some interesting chars with it
17:28  * madmax|pt hugs powerbook's keyboard layout
17:28 <wrtlprnft> for example the interrobang
17:28 <wrtlprnft> ☯_☯
17:29 <madmax|pt> < ‹
17:29  * wrtlprnft wonders if nemo's gonna publish his mac server browser
17:30 <wrtlprnft> http://generalconsumption.org/tmp/browser.png
17:30 <madmax|pt> ooooh
17:30 <madmax|pt> he is! he is!
17:30 <madmax|pt> thats nice
17:31  * wrtlprnft personally likes his armaspyad more, but it probably won't run on a mac without a lot of modification
17:31 <wrtlprnft> and it's based on a systray icon, which doesn't exist in that form on macos
17:32 <madmax|pt> yeah
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19:03 <wrtlprnft> guru3: can you redirect master3 to another master? My server's acting weird, the server's randomly dying
19:03 <wrtlprnft> and randomly the harddrives don't spin up on start
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19:44 <DrJoeTron> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbIUy-Qfm1E my new favorite commercial :D
19:53 <guru3> wrtlprnft: done
19:55 <wrtlprnft> ty
19:56 <wrtlprnft> i hope to get it back up and working around noon tomorrow
19:56 <madmax|pt> hehe nice ad
19:56 <wrtlprnft> ?
19:56 <madmax|pt> Honda has some pretty cool ones
19:56 <wrtlprnft> a, nvm
19:56 <wrtlprnft> didn't see DrJoeTron's link
19:57 <DrJoeTron> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbIUy-Qfm1E my new favorite commercial :D
20:08 <DrJoeTron> wow these game pads are tiny
20:08 <DrJoeTron> http://akihabaranews.com/en/en/news-12373-Buffalo+USB+Micro-Pads.html
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21:02 <wrtlprnft> umm, is there any way to finf out on which RAM chip a certain memory address lies?
21:02 <wrtlprnft> besides taking all but one of them out
21:03 <wrtlprnft> memtest complains about a failing address at 00006210f10
21:05 <guru3> does counting up from slot 0 work_
21:05 <guru3> ?
21:05 <wrtlprnft> uh
21:05 <wrtlprnft> they're labelled 1, 2 and 3
21:05 <guru3> ok
21:06 <wrtlprnft> it's 3 addresses now :(
21:06 <wrtlprnft> no, 2, actually
21:06 <guru3> just count up the addresses
21:06 <guru3> each address is x bits or whatever
21:06 <guru3> so i assume address 1 is on slot 1...
21:06 <wrtlprnft> ah, ok
21:06 <wrtlprnft> so it would all be on the chip in slot 1?
21:07 <wrtlprnft> if that one has 128MB and all the error addresses are <100M
21:07 <guru3> depends on how much space each address is
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21:08 <wrtlprnft> i'll probably end up just taking the whole box to someone who knows what he's doing tomorrow...
21:08 <wrtlprnft> err, …
21:08 <guru3> ><
21:10 <wrtlprnft> memtest's still at 43%…
21:10 <wrtlprnft> takes forever
21:10 <guru3> :o
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22:15 <wrtlprnft> ok, so it IS my old RAM chip that's failing
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22:41 <Your_mom_arma> did you run memtest wrtlprnft?
22:42 <wrtlprnft> yeah
22:42 <wrtlprnft> that's how i found out
22:42 <wrtlprnft> WOOT!
22:42 <wrtlprnft> it's booting!
22:43 <wrtlprnft> now the question is, for how long will it work
22:44 <wrtlprnft> apparently the two harddrives didn't like each other
22:45 <wrtlprnft> put them on different IDE buses, now they work
22:46 <guru3> looks like the master server i run randomly crashes Oo
22:47 <wrtlprnft> o well, you can redirect it to me for now
22:48 <guru3> ><
22:48 <guru3> it's not tse
22:48 <guru3> *it's not that it crashes
22:48 <guru3> it just... stops running with out any warning
22:49 <wrtlprnft> master's running here, armabot is on her way
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22:49 <wrtlprnft> i'll keep my game servers down for now.
22:49 <guru3> the xml feed you're referring to in the armaspy thread
22:50 <guru3> is that the one i run?
22:50 <wrtlprnft> no
22:50 <guru3> good
22:50 <guru3> i don't care about it not working then :D
22:51 <wrtlprnft> nothing's really using it
22:51 <wrtlprnft> i couldn't as it's invalid sometimes
22:51 <guru3> ah well
22:51 <guru3> oops
22:51 <guru3> nothing's perfect
22:51 <wrtlprnft> and my feed is the only one that contains the max number of players on a server
22:51 <guru3> hrhr
22:51 <wrtlprnft> and it has a DTD and some nice CSS
22:51 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/serverxml.php?stripcolors
22:51 <wrtlprnft> so you can view it in a browser
22:53 <guru3> neato
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23:16 <Lucifer_arma> what's 25% of 600?
23:16 <Lucifer_arma> #g 600*.25
23:16 <armabot> 600 * .25 = 150
23:16 <wrtlprnft> #g 25% of 600
23:16 <Lucifer_arma> so, I get 250 if I cut it down and send it to newsforge.  If LinuxJournal takes it for print, it's $600, but if they only put it on their website, it's $150
23:16 <armabot> 25% of 600 = 150
23:16 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: don't even need to think a bit x_X
23:17 <Lucifer_arma> MY PHYSICS CLASS IS BORING!
23:18 <wrtlprnft> boring in the sense of boring stuff (like optics) or in the sense of waaay too easy?
23:20 <Lucifer_arma> waaaay too easy
23:20 <Lucifer_arma> now, true, we're still doing "review", but we should be done with that now and we're still talking about velocity/speed/acceleration
23:21 <Lucifer_arma> next chapter is vectors, which we were supposed to start today
23:21 <guru3> fun
23:21 <Lucifer_arma> what's really boring is that he goes over every homework problem with us, which I can see being very helpful later on, only because we're doing it now on the easy stuff,
23:22 <Lucifer_arma> so, we spent an hour going oer math that everyone's supposed to know before they sign up for this class, then a 10 minute lecture, then he spent 5 minutes reading our new homework assignment
23:23 <wrtlprnft> what's so exitin about vectors?
23:23 <wrtlprnft> *exciting
23:24 <guru3> it's two pieces of information in one :D
23:24 <wrtlprnft> or more
23:24 <guru3> like... real life objects
23:25 <wrtlprnft> stupid question: what happens if you multiply twodimensional vectors? Do you just multiply the corresponding complex numbers or doesn't it make any sense at all?
23:25 <wrtlprnft> if the first is true: what about threedimensional vectors?
23:25 <guru3> beats me
23:26 <guru3> ask Lucifer_arma once he's been taught'
23:26 <wrtlprnft> heh
23:26 <Lucifer_arma> never gonna learn it at this rate
23:26 <Lucifer_arma> multiplying doesn't make sense, iirc
23:27 <guru3> lol
23:29 <wrtlprnft> well, you CAN multiply coordinates, apparently
23:29 <wrtlprnft> though it only really makes sense if you're using polar coordinates
23:29 <MaZuffeR> you can't multiply vectors
23:31 <Lucifer_arma> you can multiply coordinates, but in a vector if you multiply the coordinates it's the same as changing the force
23:31 <Lucifer_arma> um, assuming that component of the vector represents force.
23:32 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: want to install phpBB for your talk page?  heh
23:32 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: x_X
23:32 <wrtlprnft> wikipedia talk pages get MUCH larger
23:32 <Lucifer_arma> that's because nobody ever cleans them
23:33 <wrtlprnft> ?
23:33 <wrtlprnft> people do clean them once in a while
23:33  * Lucifer_arma hasn't really noticed, he only reads a talk page if the article makes it look like there's a flame war going on
23:33 <wrtlprnft> infact, tak pages on this wiki are much more messy
23:33 <Lucifer_arma> well, we're all wiki amateurs
23:33 <wrtlprnft> i do have some experience in the german wikipedia ;)
23:41 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r6167 /private/wrtlprnft/armaspyadvanced/armaspyadvanced.py: Hopefully fixed problems with parsing an old config file.

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