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Log from 2006-08-21:
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01:13 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: should work now, I did a revdep-rebuild
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01:56 <Vanhayes_> hmm the wiki seems to be down
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02:18 <luke-jr_> so is Luci
02:24 <Vanhayes> true
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03:35 <luke-jr_> #g 115 CA to US
03:36 <armabot> Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
03:36 <luke-jr_> #g 115 CA to $
03:36 <armabot> Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
03:36 <luke-jr_> #g 115 Canada $ to $
03:36 <armabot> Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
03:36 <luke-jr_> #g 115 Canada dollars to $
03:36 <armabot> Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
03:36 <luke-jr_> #g 115 Canada dollars to dollars
03:36 <armabot> Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
03:36 <luke-jr_> #g 115 Canadian dollars to dollars
03:36 <armabot> 115 Canadian dollars = 102.431638 U.S. dollars
03:43 <Vanhayes> ?
03:44 <Vanhayes> trying to buy something form canada?
03:44 <Vanhayes> from*
03:49 <Meaw> anyone want join us freeciv?
03:49 <Meaw> me and some israeli guy
03:55 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes: no
03:56 <Vanhayes> Lucifer_arma:  just curious what the exchange rate is then?
03:57 <luke-jr_> no
03:59 <Vanhayes> er
03:59 <Vanhayes> luke-jr_**
03:59 <Vanhayes> didnt see him come back
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04:46 <luke-jr_> hm
04:46 <luke-jr_> wow
04:46 <luke-jr_> how often do you see a linux system with *free* RAM?
05:19 <Lucifer_arma> is it Free as in Freedom?
05:21 <luke-jr_> ...
05:21 <luke-jr_> that's the only fre
05:21 <luke-jr_> free
05:21 <luke-jr_> that I recognize
05:21 <Lucifer_arma> I knew it.  I thought you wouldn't recognize a free beer when you saw it.
05:21 <luke-jr_> =p
05:22 <Lucifer_arma> is there a freeciv game going?
05:22 <luke-jr_> not sure
05:22 <Lucifer_arma> man luke, you should have joined us for the game we played last night
05:22 <Lucifer_arma> we did humans vs ais and it was awesome
05:22 <luke-jr_> I know
05:23 <Lucifer_arma> the neat thing we discovered is after the ais are all destroyed, the game is over.  So the human alliance doesn't have to break down
05:23 <Lucifer_arma> the science guy got the most points, but we were all within shooting distance of each other, so it's worth it for the humans to ally
05:31 <Vanhayes> there is a mode ais versus humans?
05:32 <Lucifer_arma> apparently its the default mode
05:32 <Lucifer_arma> that is, if you have ais to begin with.  We ran 3 vs 1.
05:32 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: maybe not AI specific
05:32 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: maybe if the only living players are allied
05:32 <Lucifer_arma> we also ran increased barbarians, but when they finally showed up they were pretty shitty
05:33 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_: that's possible.  I wondered about it, would be worth checking out.
05:33 <Lucifer_arma> because the game might consider an alliance that rules the world to be the same as one civilization ruling the world, which makes sense
05:33  * luke-jr_ nods
05:33 <luke-jr_> I doubt it would have a special AI mode unless it was explicitly enabled
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, which means me and spidey didn't have to worry about what happened when you and todd were finished off.  heh.
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> pretty ironic.
05:34 <Vanhayes> how long did that ai game take?
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> 6 hours or so, not terribly long
05:34 <luke-jr_> I'm up for a game tonight, btw
05:34 <luke-jr_> brb tho
05:34 <luke-jr_> restarting KDE
05:34 <Vanhayes> ya if its a 6 hour one id like to too
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> I've got a kernel compile going on, I'd like to be able to reboot before I start a game, but it shouldn't take long
05:35 <Vanhayes> ok
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'll be looking to save after about 4 hours, unless it looks like we're nearing the end
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05:36 <Lucifer_arma> but now is the time to round up players.  :)  If we have 4 humans, I want to do 2 ais.  If 6 humans, then 3.  So humans/ais = 2, round down.
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> so it's 3 humans vs 1 ai.  :)
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> 5 v 2, etc.
05:36 <Vanhayes> sounds good to me
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: spidey?
05:36 <Vanhayes> spidey: GodTodd ?
05:36 <Vanhayes> lol
05:37 <Vanhayes> want to try the japan map/mod? :)
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> I have no specific objections, but I'm more interested in running a generated map
05:38 <Vanhayes> ya doesnt really matter to me, but if I have a choice that is it
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05:38 <Lucifer_arma> we'll have to see if we get more players what they want to play
05:38 <Vanhayes> im good with any map now though, I was just bored of the world one for a little while
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I'm interested in playing other maps.  The nice thing about generated maps is that a player's knowledge of world geography doesn't give him any advantage
05:39 <Vanhayes> heh true
05:39 <Vanhayes> on your world map I'd say either the zulus or the australians have best start
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> I mean, we all knew where the continents were, but I felt like some of us with good knowledge of geography had an advantage.  heh.
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I think I should pull the aussies off or put them on an island instead
05:40 <TiTnAsS> sigh
05:40 <Vanhayes> TiTnAsS: want to plsay?
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> the mongols have a great start if they can be isolated for a while
05:40 <Vanhayes> play*
05:40 <TiTnAsS> have you guys started yet?
05:40 <Vanhayes> nope
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> no, it's still gonna be a little bit.  Maybe in half an hour, maybe a little longer.
05:40 <TiTnAsS> im still not very good.. i havnt read any more of the manuel
05:40 <TiTnAsS> manual
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> I'd like to give spidey and godtodd time to appear
05:40  * Vanhayes never read any of the manual
05:41 <TiTnAsS> lol, well
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> Vanhayes: read the tactic tutorials that are there, they're very helpful.  :)
05:41 <TiTnAsS> luke said im very bad at making defenses, and science
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> in the campaign we ran last night, after I took a city from the ai I never lost it.
05:41 <TiTnAsS> and im still not sure how to do either of those, ....
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> he counterattacked nicely, but I wore him down with good defenses.  :)
05:41 <TiTnAsS> and i dont really wanna bother you guys by asking tons of questions :-/
05:41 <Vanhayes> ya Im pretty good with tactics, but the city building wasnt my strong point
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> well, here's the basic rule of thumb, which varies a bit.
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> you put two defensive units, normally infantry, fortified in a city.  That's phalanx, musketeers, riflemen, and MI
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> then you put at least 1 offensive unit, an artillery piece, in the city, and set him to auto-attack
05:42 <Vanhayes> hmm I like to use marines for def too when i can get them
05:42 <TiTnAsS> fortified in a city?
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> artillery is catapults, cannons, howitzers, etc.
05:43 <Vanhayes> select the unit and press f
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> marines are excellent defenders, but expensive compared to riflemen
05:43 <TiTnAsS> so you move it onto the city map, and press forify?
05:43 <TiTnAsS> fortify
05:43 <TiTnAsS> onto the city square*
05:43 <Vanhayes> ya I usually just but them for attack/def taken city
05:43 <Vanhayes> TiTnAsS: yes
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> now, the defense I just described is during PEACE.  If you're going to war, it's common to pull the first wave of attackers from the existing garrisons while you build the second wave
05:43 <TiTnAsS> OH, one more thign i still dont know how to do, work squares around cities lol
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> just put your workers on auto-settler :)
05:44 <Vanhayes> well keep some to yourself
05:44 <TiTnAsS> and they work the squares by emselves?
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> the real advantage to marines is that they can leave a transport directly into an enemy city
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> TiTnAsS: yes, the ai will work them for you.  If you set the CMA to something, the combination works *very* well
05:45 <Lucifer_arma> keep a few around for special projects, like building fortifications, connecting important railroads, etc.
05:45 <Vanhayes> ya, thats a very usefull ability, though a battleship usually does that for me first
05:45 <Lucifer_arma> right, but a battleship can't take the city.  So you bombard the city with the battleship and/or missiles and/or bombers, then move in a transport with marines
05:45 <TiTnAsS> ic, so how many workers per city should i have?..
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> so the marines don't have to fight at all.  :)
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> well, workers cost, so I try to get the workers out of heavy farming cities
05:46 <TiTnAsS> as many nice sqaures there are within 5x5 of the city centered?
05:46 <Vanhayes> yup, very usefull if the battleship cant move anymore but you dont know if there is any defenders left
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> then I try to build a total of 1 worker per city, and I try to double that right before I get railroads
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> well, use spies.  Spies are crucial to a campaign.  :)
05:47 <TiTnAsS> do you need bulldozers to get railroads
05:47 <TiTnAsS> ?
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> I know, when you don't have a beachhead established, you don't have spies.
05:47 <Vanhayes> unless you send them over, but that wouldnt be the best thing to do
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> no, the "bulldozers" you see are "engineers", and normally you get railroads before that.  Engineers build shit faster, and you really want them asap after getting railroad, but they're not necessary.
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> well, without a city to operate from, you're throwing spies away.
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> but the spy needs a city with fortifications to end his turn so he doesn't get attacked :)
05:48 <Vanhayes> by the time you get railroads I think you either have or are close to having engeneers(bulldozers)
05:48 <TiTnAsS> yeah, when i took over for GoddTodd, i saw like 4 bulldozers going back and forth, to the city from mining squares..i think.. lol
05:48 <TiTnAsS> it had a little "m" symbol over it, iunno what that means its doing
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> usually when you get railroad, you have a choice to go for engineers or industrialization next, they're about equidistant
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> that meant it was building a mine
05:49 <TiTnAsS> lol, i didnt even notice the stuff i leanred in science doing anything
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> I like to bring more workers onto the field before I get railroads so I can start railroading and go for industrialization next :)
05:49 <TiTnAsS> ie, literacy..
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> literacy lets you build libraries
05:49 <TiTnAsS> jsut enables you to just more stuff?
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> libraries increase your research rate
05:49 <TiTnAsS> or lets you change to like.. communism or something?
05:50 <TiTnAsS> ic
05:50 <Lucifer_arma> no, you need Communism to change to communism :)
05:50 <TiTnAsS> lol..
05:50 <TiTnAsS> no i didnt mean libraries
05:50 <Lucifer_arma> read more of the manual.  And understand it.  :)
05:50 <TiTnAsS> i meant, if you research communism in the science tab, then you can change to communism, thats the only thing i knew
05:50 <TiTnAsS> that science helped with
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> well, what does science help with in real life?
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05:51 <Lucifer_arma> I'll tell you what, there's a series of books that does a really good job of showing what science and research is good for in civilization building
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> it starts with March Upcountry, written by David Weber, and available in the baen free library
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> you might learn more reading that than anything else.  Or it's sequel, anyway, where they start building real firearms
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, I'm a go grab a smoke.  hopefully spidey and/or GodTodd will appear and be ready for a game soon
05:53 <Vanhayes> http://www.freeciv.org/index.php/Extras btw there is where map and mod pack and modpack readme are
05:54 <Vanhayes> well not really readme but info on it
05:54 <Vanhayes> luke-jr_:  and TiTnAsS woulf you like to play a japan map/nodpack?
05:55 <Vanhayes> would* modpack**
05:55 <luke-jr_> shrug
05:59 <Vanhayes> spidey: spidey spidey spidey spidey 
05:59 <Vanhayes> GodTodd: GodTodd GodTodd GodTodd GodTodd 
05:59 <Vanhayes> anyone anyone anyone anyone anyone
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> the japan pack ships with the game, though.  Most of those ship with the game :)
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I'm rebooting, brb
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06:05 <TiTnAsS> wait
06:05 <TiTnAsS> did you start?
06:05 <TiTnAsS> im finishing a lux game, please wait for me
06:05 <TiTnAsS> it shouldnt be long
06:06 <Vanhayes> ya we are still waiting
06:08 <TiTnAsS> whats the freeciv site? i wanna link my cousin so he can learn it sometime
06:09 <luke-jr_> #g freeciv
06:09 <armabot> Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
06:09 <luke-jr_> dumb bot
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06:10 <Lucifer_arma> yay, I have a battery monitor now :)
06:10 <TiTnAsS> sounds more like dumb luke to me ^^
06:10 <TiTnAsS> hah
06:10 <TiTnAsS> its not the bots fault google doesnt have any links for it :D
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> #last --from luke-jr_ 
06:11 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: [06:09:59] <luke-jr_> dumb bot
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> links for what?
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> #g doesn't search google anyway
06:11 <armabot> Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
06:11 <Vanhayes> why would google calc know anything about freeciv?
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> #google freeciv
06:11 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Search took 0.35 seconds: Freeciv: <http://www.freeciv.org/>; Download - Freeciv: <http://www.freeciv.org/index.php/Download>; Freeciv - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeciv>; freshmeat.net: Project details for Freeciv: <http://freshmeat.net/projects/freeciv/>; WorldChanging: Tools, Models and Ideas for Building a Bright Green ...: (1 more message)
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: GodTodd GodTodd 
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: spidey spidey 
06:12 <TiTnAsS> im almost ready
06:12 <TiTnAsS> shouldnt be more then 10-15 more minutes
06:12 <Vanhayes> #last --from Vanhayes --with GodTodd 
06:12 <armabot> Vanhayes: [05:59:55] <Vanhayes> GodTodd: GodTodd GodTodd GodTodd GodTodd
06:12 <Vanhayes> #last --from Vanhayes --with spidey 
06:12 <armabot> Vanhayes: [05:59:44] <Vanhayes> spidey: spidey spidey spidey spidey
06:13 <Vanhayes> wait a few more minutes for them?
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> may as well wait for TiTnAsS too
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> it's possible GodTodd and spidey decided they'd been playing too much freeciv lately and are out sleeping or having lives :)
06:14 <Vanhayes> true
06:15 <Lucifer_arma> ftp://ftp.freeciv.org/freeciv/contrib/maps/iberian-peninsula-68x50-iso.gif  <--- we could be visigoths
06:15 <luke-jr_> the forums are working quite crappy tonight
06:15 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: that would make more sense than calc only
06:16 <Lucifer_arma> I think the north america map looks boring
06:16 <luke-jr_> wtf does 'g' have to do with a calculator?
06:16 <Lucifer_arma> calc is taken by a different plugin that uses python to calculate, which isn't much like a calculator
06:16 <luke-jr_> screw the other plugin =p
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> ftp://ftp.freeciv.org/freeciv/contrib/maps/lgm-180x90.gif  <-- I think this map looks interesting, but I'm kinda sick of the world in general
06:18 <luke-jr_> someone fix the forums -.-
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> sorry, they're out of my jurisdiction
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06:19 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, the japan map is fine, but I'd still prefer a generated map.  We could increase the land mass and stick it in island mode, with 1 player per island
06:19 <Lucifer_arma> the map we played last night still had like 3 or 4 unsettled islands on it
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> but if we play the japan map, I'm changing my name to Mr. Miyogi
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> anybody know what the spawn points look like on the japan map?
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06:21 <Lucifer_arma> #monologue
06:21 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Your current monologue is at least 6 lines long.
06:22 <luke-jr_> never played it
06:22 <luke-jr_> #monologue
06:22 <armabot> luke-jr_: Your current monologue is at least 2 lines long.
06:22 <luke-jr_> guru3: fix forums =p
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> awww, no carthage on the japan map
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> > Mongol, Korean, Portuguese, Dutch, Japanese, English, Chinese, Spanish
06:26 <luke-jr_> ...
06:26 <luke-jr_> hurry up =p
06:26 <Vanhayes> well its japanese clans if you use the mod pack
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, those names are just there so they can have civilizations, but they're renamed in the sav file to match japanese clans
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: spidey 
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> they all start near each other, though.  That could be pretty interesting, but it doesn't look like anybody starts on an island
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> heh, I just realized what I just said
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> ok, server's up
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> host: www.davefancella.com
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> port: 5555
06:34 <GodTodd> hmmm
06:37 <Vanhayes> ill br on in a couple of minutes
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: you playing?
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: spidey spidey 
06:40 <GodTodd> debating
06:40 <GodTodd> heh
06:41 <TiTnAsS> fuck guys
06:41 <TiTnAsS> sorry
06:41 <TiTnAsS> gimmi
06:41 <TiTnAsS> 30 more seconds
06:41 <TiTnAsS> lol
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> right now it's just me and luke in the server
06:42 <TiTnAsS> back..
06:44 <luke-jr_> hope nobody minds me splitting DEDICATED up
06:44 <luke-jr_> into SDLGL
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> splitting it up how?
06:44 <GodTodd> hmmm...i'd only be able to play for 2 or 3 hours :/
06:45 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: GUI stuff in SDLGL #ifdef
06:45 <TiTnAsS> thats fine godtodd
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> I'm looking to save around 4 hours after we start
06:45 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: eg, so you can run a client w/o SDL/GL
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_: I don't mind at all if DEDICATED is just define that defines other symbols that actually create it
06:45 <luke-jr_> 2 or 3 would be better for me
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> I split up sound like that.  :)
06:45 <TiTnAsS> what about vanhayes
06:45 <TiTnAsS> and spidey?
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> ok, if you guys want to save sooner, than just keep your eyes on the clock
06:45 <TiTnAsS> they coming?
06:46 <Vanhayes> coming right now
06:46 <GodTodd> on my way then :)
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> since we all don't want to play all night, it's probably more reasonable to save and quit than save and let ai players fill in for missing players :)
06:47 <Vanhayes> yup
06:47 <Vanhayes> il probly leave in 2-4 hours
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: ?
06:47 <Vanhayes> probly sleeping
06:48 <Vanhayes> idle for 8 hours
06:49 <Vanhayes> spidey: spidey spidey spidey spidey spidey spidey spidey spidey spidey spidey spidey spidey spidey spidey spidey spidey spidey spidey spidey 
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: last call :)
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> LAST CALL FOR FREECIV PLAYERS
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> #last --from spidey
06:49 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: [22:23:12] <spidey> #check spdy
06:50 <Vanhayes> spidey missed out
06:53 <luke-jr_> o well
06:53 <luke-jr_> he can always take an AI
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07:29 <luke-jr_> omg tna can be dumb sometimes =p
07:31 <TiTnAsS> fool.. why bother saying that here
07:31 <TiTnAsS> its fine to say ingame when i do something stupid
07:37 <luke-jr_> =p
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08:07 <guru3> luke-jr_: what's wrong with them?
08:09 <guru3> ah
08:09 <guru3> 4 posts
08:11 <luke-jr_> posting is broken
08:11 <luke-jr_> errors every time
08:11 <luke-jr_> sometimes it works and still errors
08:12 <guru3> working fine here
08:19 <luke-jr_> -.-
08:41 <Vanhayes> luke-jr_: ftp://ftp.freeciv.org/freeciv/contrib/maps/japan-88x100.gif
09:18 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_: thanks, i'll check next time I need it. I already made the previews on my machine and uploaded them
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10:05 <wrtlprnft> eddiefantastic: http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/armagetronad/.message/231c09 <-- uploaded those maps
10:06 <wrtlprnft> though i had to delete half-0.0.3.aamap.xml as it has a syntax error
10:07 <luke-jr_> how did it get uploaded then?
10:07 <luke-jr_> there's a reason the script verifies
10:08 <luke-jr_> please don't bypass it
10:08 <luke-jr_> tho a failed preview shouldn't block an upload either
10:13 <wrtlprnft> I didn't bypass it
10:13 <wrtlprnft> I just didn't use it :P
10:14 <wrtlprnft> and then noticed as the preview failed
10:17 <spidey> o.o
10:18 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: non usage is bypassing =p
10:18 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_: well, it doesn't do batchprocessing of maps :P
10:18 <Vanhayes> spidey want to play?
10:18 <wrtlprnft> so I can't use it
10:18 <Vanhayes> we are four vs 3 ais and could use another person
10:19 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: so make it
10:19 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: or script it, it takes argv iirc
10:19 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: I think ed would appreciate batch uploads tho
10:21 <wrtlprnft> making a script that calls upload.suid-php 21 times is unacceptable, it would spam CIA
10:22 <spidey> Vanhayes play?
10:22 <Vanhayes> freeciv
10:22 <spidey> lemme finish my breakfast ;x
10:22 <Vanhayes> take over an ai
10:22 <spidey> host?
10:22 <Vanhayes> www.davefancella.com
10:22 <Vanhayes> take nick
10:22 <Vanhayes> he was TNA
10:23 <spidey> -_-
10:23 <Vanhayes> then had tp leave
10:23 <Vanhayes> to*
10:23 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: so spam CIA =p
10:23 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: or fix it
10:24 <luke-jr_> spidey: I was gonna call you, but didn't know your name
10:37 <spidey> i told your wife
10:37 <spidey> :p
10:41 <luke-jr_> GodTodd: 
10:41 <luke-jr_> spidey: she's asleep
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10:50 <Vanhayes> GodTodd: GodTodd GodTodd GodTodd 
10:50 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: don't take this personally, but I'm cutting you from the game for now, sorry
10:50 <Lucifer_arma> let us know when you get back what's up
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11:16 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: ?
11:21 <Vanhayes> illbe back in a few hours
11:21 <Vanhayes> #goodbye
11:21 <armabot> Goodbye Vanhayes :(
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11:22 <luke-jr_> don't miss me! =p
11:22 <spidey> i won't
11:25 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: FIXED_FRAMERATE WFM
11:32 <wrtlprnft> WFM?
11:33 <luke-jr_> works for me
11:33 <luke-jr_> I think
11:33 <wrtlprnft> what's WFM?
11:34 <wrtlprnft> #cyborg cyname WFM
11:34 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (cyborg [<name>]) -- Returns a cyborg acronym for <name> from <http://www.cyborgname.com/>. If <name> is not specified, uses that of the user.
11:34 <wrtlprnft> #cyborg WFM
11:34 <armabot> wrtlprnft: W.F.M.: Worldwide Fighting Machine
11:36 <arctanx> 'scuse me, I can't find the option to give the description line for a server which starts at "Using all original settings." or something. anyone know how to change that?
11:36 <luke-jr_> Works For Me
11:36 <luke-jr_> arctanx: wtf?
11:36 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_: you sure? did you try it in chat mode?
11:37 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: no clue
11:37 <arctanx> luke-jr_: when browsing online servers, there's a line called "Options:" and I'm wondering how you can change that, because my server most certainly doesn't use all original values
11:37 <luke-jr_> probably
11:37 <luke-jr_> made videos of normal gameplay, which means I probably chatted
11:37 <luke-jr_> arctanx: put it in server_info as settings_dedicated says to
11:37 <arctanx> oh duh, settings_dedicated
11:38 <luke-jr_> don't change settings_dedicated tho
11:38 <arctanx> thanks
11:38 <arctanx> yeah, I'll stick it in settings_custom
11:38 <luke-jr_> that one belongs in server_info imo
11:38 <luke-jr_> but it's arguable
11:38 <spidey> i go in swampland
11:38 <arctanx> no matter
11:38  * wrtlprnft doesn't get the point of separating these files
11:38 <spidey> the first thing i get
11:38 <spidey> go back to your stupid speed/rubber server
11:38 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: one is to be shared, the other isn't
11:38 <spidey> so i'm winning :D
11:39 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: server_info is a private file
11:39 <luke-jr_> with server name, URL, admin pass, etc
11:39 <luke-jr_> settings_custom is what you give the kid next door who wants your cool settings
11:40 <arctanx> yep
11:40 <arctanx> wiki describes in detail that distinction
11:40 <luke-jr_> does it? wow
11:40 <luke-jr_> I just figured it was blatently obvious =p
11:40 <wrtlprnft> i know it's there. I just don't see the point
11:41 <luke-jr_> I just told you the point
11:41 <wrtlprnft> if i give someone my settings i will only give them relevant parts anyways
11:41 <luke-jr_> to keep private in a seperate file from public
11:41 <arctanx> I think so, I read it anyway
11:47 <arctanx> it seemed likely that there would be a SERVER_OPTIONS variable, which is the one I wanted, but it isn't in the console commands wiki page for some reason
11:53 <wrtlprnft> #armaconfig server_options
11:53 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Sorry, no matches :S
11:53 <wrtlprnft> then it doesn't exsit probably
11:56 <arctanx> well it certainly does
11:57 <arctanx> just hiding in settings_dedicated.cfg
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12:43 <spidey> luke-jr_ ping
13:27 <spidey> luke-jr_ tech support!
13:27 <spidey> server crashed -_-
13:28 <spidey> it crashed right after i tried to login o.o
13:53 <spidey> wrtlprnft?
14:09 <wrtlprnft> spidey?
14:10 <spidey> nvm got it
14:10 <spidey> had to chown
14:10 <spidey> -_-
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15:06 <GodTodd> #g 28+19.15+71+89.25
15:06 <armabot> 28 + 19.15 + 71 + 89.25 = 207.4
15:06 <GodTodd> #g 207.4+31.75
15:06 <armabot> 207.4 + 31.75 = 239.15
15:08 <GodTodd> #g 83.25+26.25+17.95+70.95
15:08 <armabot> 83.25 + 26.25 + 17.95 + 70.95 = 198.4
15:12 <spidey> todd
15:14 <GodTodd> spidey
15:18 <spidey> todd
15:18 <GodTodd> spidey
15:18 <spidey> todd
15:18 <GodTodd> spidey
15:19  * spidey is watching Dawn of the Dead
15:19 <GodTodd> heh
15:21 <spidey> the dead walk the earth!
15:22 <GodTodd> problem is they're mostly *brain*dead ;)
15:23 <spidey> haha
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16:33 <wrtlprnft> #g EUR 290.20 in british pounds
16:33 <armabot> Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
16:33 <wrtlprnft> #g EUR 290.20 in pounds
16:33 <armabot> Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
16:33 <wrtlprnft> #g EUR 290.20 in currency of great britain
16:33 <armabot> Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
16:33 <wrtlprnft> #g 290.20 euros in currency of great britain
16:33 <armabot> Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
16:33 <wrtlprnft> wtf
16:34 <GodTodd> #g 290.2 EUR in GBP
16:34 <armabot> 290.2 Euros = 197.584945 British pounds
16:35 <wrtlprnft> thanks
16:35 <GodTodd> np :)
17:27 <spidey> heh
17:27 <spidey> when i get my dog back he's gonna be high
17:28 <spidey> he got something in his eye and it got swollen pretty bad, so we took him to the vet 
17:28 <spidey> he wouldn't let them look so they gave him something
17:48 <spidey> this one'll be a pain :-s
18:23 <spidey> wrtlprnft
18:24 <wrtlprnft> spidey
18:24 <spidey> need help with something
18:24 <spidey> :D
18:24 <wrtlprnft> what?
18:24 <spidey> in php, i know how to remove 1 line from a text file
18:25 <spidey> but say i want that line, plus the 3 after it removed
18:25 <wrtlprnft> how do you identify the line?
18:26 <wrtlprnft> $file = file('path');
18:26 <wrtlprnft> $removelines = 0;
18:26 <wrtlprnft> foreach($file as $line) {
18:26 <wrtlprnft> if($removelines > 0) {
18:26 <wrtlprnft> --$removelines;
18:27 <spidey> ah
18:27 <wrtlprnft> } else {
18:27 <wrtlprnft> $result .= $line;
18:27 <wrtlprnft> }
18:27 <wrtlprnft> if(strstr($line, 'searchstring')) {
18:27 <wrtlprnft> $removelines = 3;
18:27 <wrtlprnft> }
18:27 <wrtlprnft> }
18:27 <wrtlprnft> something like that
18:28 <spidey> k
18:28 <wrtlprnft> maybe move the 2nd if to the beginning of the foreach loop
18:39 <spidey> haha
18:39 <spidey> i suck
18:39 <spidey> the forums page, when you clicked "forums" twice it loaded the site inside the iframe
18:40 <spidey> i feel stupid -_-
18:41 <spidey> ok i'm done for now
18:42  * spidey goes to play freeciv
18:42 <spidey> found a server with 7 people and are in pregame
18:42 <spidey> :D
18:42 <luke-jr_> spidey: pong!
18:42 <spidey> yo
18:43 <spidey> luke-jr_ the guy either thinks i'm retarded, or he's retarded
18:43 <luke-jr_> ?
18:43 <spidey> because i define why we needed the source and what we was gonna use it for
18:43 <spidey> he told me use "maxplayers" in the .ini ... but that can be changed with a remote client
18:44 <spidey> anyone wanna play freeciv? i really don't wanna play with these guys, but i wanna play
18:45 <spidey> hmm
18:45 <spidey> i think these guys are the devs
18:45 <spidey> O.o
18:48 <luke-jr_> hehe
18:48 <spidey> come in
18:49 <luke-jr_> spidey: if you *really* want it, maybe ask what price tag he'll put on the source under an unlimited private use license and/or open source license?
18:49 <spidey> they're gonna play after they get done talking about fixing things
18:49 <spidey> :p
18:49 <luke-jr_> spidey: or forward it to me and I can do that
18:49 <luke-jr_> nah
18:49 <luke-jr_> no tie
18:49 <luke-jr_> time
18:49 <spidey> michal.marcinkowski@gmail.com
18:50 <luke-jr_> spidey: forward his last reply to me as an attachment?
18:50 <spidey> 	
18:50 <spidey> From : 	Michal Marcinkowski <michal.marcinkowski@gmail.com>
18:50 <spidey> Sent : 	Monday, August 21, 2006 2:49 PM
18:50 <spidey> To : 	"P.J. Noble" <xlllspiderlllx@hotmail.com>
18:50 <spidey> Subject : 	Re: Hi
18:50 <spidey> 	
18:50 <spidey> 	
18:50 <spidey> Go to previous message	|	Go to next message	|	Delete	|	Inbox
18:50 <spidey> They can, the commands are listed in the Soldat manual.
18:50 <luke-jr_> spidey: forward his last reply to me as an attachment?
18:50 <spidey> !?
18:50 <spidey> what's your email
18:51 <luke-jr_> luke@dashjr.org
18:51 <spidey> sent
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18:55 <spidey> shit
18:55 <spidey> i'ma die
18:55 <ghableska> O_o
18:56 <spidey> 13 people all devs
18:56 <spidey> :(
18:56 <luke-jr_> rofl
18:56 <spidey> well
18:56 <spidey> 12
18:56 <spidey> i'm the 13th
18:56 <ghableska> :P
18:57 <luke-jr_> spidey: BTW, I assume the server works now?
18:57 <spidey> i guess
18:57 <spidey> haven't been back
18:57 <spidey> lol
18:57 <spidey> only played tron a few hours this morning
18:58 <spidey> 14 players o.o
18:58 <spidey> well
18:58 <spidey> i guess it'll be good practice
18:58 <spidey> if i live longer than a hour
18:58 <spidey> :/
18:58 <luke-jr_> well, there's people playing there now
18:58 <spidey> k
18:58 <luke-jr_> spidey: I suggest saying
18:58 <luke-jr_> go easy on me =p
18:59 <spidey> haha
18:59 <spidey> no they'll come after me first then
18:59 <spidey> !
18:59 <luke-jr_> nah
18:59 <luke-jr_> but you'll probably still lose
18:59 <luke-jr_> unless maybe you gain the sympathy from one and an alliance
18:59 <spidey> atleast i can say i played for an hour :p
18:59 <luke-jr_> if you do
19:00 <spidey> <book> gn then there are ghost islands...
19:00 <spidey> wtf's a ghost island
19:00 <luke-jr_> nobody on em?
19:00 <spidey> luke-jr_ if i can get a good production island i'll be fine
19:00 <luke-jr_> or maybe ghosts
19:00 <luke-jr_> :o
19:01 <spidey> just produce a shitload of ancient units with city walls :D
19:01 <spidey> and all of my cities but 2-3 are gonna be inland
19:01 <luke-jr_> hm'
19:01 <luke-jr_> if you want to focus on that
19:01 <spidey> because they'll kill me with ironclads :(
19:01 <luke-jr_> use all tax and no sci
19:01 <spidey> nah, i need some
19:01 <luke-jr_> use Coastal Defense
19:01 <spidey> or i'll just get overrun
19:02 <spidey> that requires science
19:02 <spidey> :p
19:02 <luke-jr_> =p
19:02 <luke-jr_> look up exactly which
19:04 <spidey> -_-
19:07 <spidey> omg o.o
19:07 <spidey> i thought i had problems
19:08 <spidey> these guys act like tna's imposter
19:09 <luke-jr_> O.o
19:10 <spidey> hmm
19:10 <spidey> luke-jr_  sure you don't wanna play? it's about to start :p
19:19 <cusco> where where?
19:20 <spidey> freeciv :p
19:21 <cusco> searching
19:21 <spidey> server has 11 people in it
19:21 <spidey> it's in pregame
19:21 <spidey> i forget the name
19:21 <spidey> jas 12 now
19:21 <cusco> thats crazy tronners?
19:21 <cusco> wild fortress?
19:22 <spidey> no.....
19:22 <spidey> another game
19:22 <cusco> that doesn't come up on my list then :/
19:22 <spidey> it's not tron :p
19:22 <cusco> ahh free civ
19:22 <cusco> dooh
19:22 <spidey> :p
19:22 <cusco> I used to play civ3 on mac
19:22 <cusco> nice game
19:23 <cusco> most of times I chosen russia
19:23 <spidey> heh
19:23 <spidey> i like the chinese
19:23 <spidey> ok, game starting bbl
19:24 <cusco> good luck
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19:39 <guru3> luke-jr_: were you using the domain devs.armagetronad.net?
20:03 <luke-jr_> guru3: not AFAIK
20:03 <luke-jr_> why?
20:04 <luke-jr_> try it and see if it has anything? =p
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20:16 <guru3> no it was pointing to my ip
20:16 <guru3> just wondering
20:52 <DrJoeTron> http://www.joinfear.com/main?act=download free finally!
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21:01 <DrJoeTron> hey mom, fear combat is out
21:01 <DrJoeTron> free too
21:02 <Your_mom_arma> have you tried it yet?
21:02 <DrJoeTron> im torrenting it right now
21:03 <DrJoeTron> i loved fear, but i didnt wanna pay for it
21:03 <DrJoeTron> cause my system wont do it justice
21:03 <Your_mom_arma> http://www.playgenesis.com/index2.htm
21:03 <Your_mom_arma> in development game
21:04 <Your_mom_arma> its supposed to be like guild wars meets populous
21:05 <DrJoeTron> freaky
21:05 <DrJoeTron> fucking stingey sseeders
21:05 <DrJoeTron> over 1400 and 9 wanna share
21:06 <Your_mom_arma> pff
21:06 <Your_mom_arma> 1.86gb
21:06 <DrJoeTron> its fear man
21:07 <Your_mom_arma> who in their right mind would direct download it
21:07 <DrJoeTron> fucking crazy people
21:07 <DrJoeTron> but it doesnt sound like a bad idea
21:08 <DrJoeTron> im only getting 40 down
21:09 <Your_mom_arma> direct dowload is less then 25kb/s down
21:09 <DrJoeTron> thats sad
21:09 <DrJoeTron> i usually get like 100
21:10 <Your_mom_arma> alright its 18 and im cancelling it
21:10 <Your_mom_arma> you could wait till more seeds are out
21:10 <DrJoeTron> nah, keep it going
21:10 <DrJoeTron> im slowly getting more seeders
21:10 <DrJoeTron> im at 60
21:11 <Your_mom_arma> the demo for single player is 662mb
21:11 <DrJoeTron> this isnt a demo though
21:11 <Your_mom_arma> i know
21:11 <DrJoeTron> it just didnt sell
21:12 <DrJoeTron> so they made it fre
21:12 <DrJoeTron> demo was cool, when i didnt play it on my machine
21:12 <DrJoeTron> what do you use for a bittorrent client?
21:13 <Your_mom_arma> azerblahblah
21:13 <Your_mom_arma> forgot the last part
21:13 <Your_mom_arma> azerius mabey
21:13 <DrJoeTron> ah
21:14 <DrJoeTron> i used to use azureus
21:14 <DrJoeTron> i use utorrent nowadays
21:14 <DrJoeTron> less resources running
21:14 <Your_mom_arma> i'll try it out
21:14 <DrJoeTron> and its only like 170kb
21:20 <Your_mom_arma> where's you get the .torrent file?
21:20 <Your_mom_arma> where'd
21:21 <DrJoeTron> http://www.joinfear.com/main?act=download
21:22 <DrJoeTron> damn it i hate it when it spikes to 90 and drops to like 40
21:22 <DrJoeTron> gets my hopes up for nothing
21:23 <DrJoeTron> yay i broke 100kb
21:34 <DrJoeTron> ive never seen 2 gigs take this forever
21:35 <DrJoeTron> you registered right Your_mom_arma  ?
21:43 <Your_mom_arma> why?
21:44 <DrJoeTron> you gotta register to play
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21:47 <DrJoeTron> i need to play toejam and earl
21:47 <DrJoeTron> but no one to play with :/
22:09 <DrJoeTron> holy shit
22:10 <DrJoeTron> my site got one hell of a hit spike
22:11 <DrJoeTron> im guessing it was DOS
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22:12 <DrJoeTron> yeah most likely that
22:19 <spidey> shit
22:19 <spidey> i had to go pick my dog up from the vet
22:19 <spidey> AI lost 5 cities, so i got 10 left
22:19 <spidey> -_-
22:19 <spidey> i'm doing pretty good against these guys
22:19 <spidey> at war with 3, and allied with 2
22:19 <spidey> the rest are peace or nutural
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22:24 <DrJoeTron> spidey
22:24 <DrJoeTron> wait nm
22:24 <DrJoeTron> i was gonna say download fear
22:24 <DrJoeTron> combat
22:24 <DrJoeTron> im not sure if you make the requirements
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22:31 <DrJoeTron> this is the download from hell
22:33 <Your_mom_arm1> already gave up on the torrent
22:42 <DrJoeTron> haha
22:43 <DrJoeTron> im at 17% so im in it for the long haul
22:43 <DrJoeTron> i shouldve done this before i went to bed
22:43 <DrJoeTron> or....i could go to bed now
22:48 <DrJoeTron> i spose nows a good time to start my side band,
22:48 <DrJoeTron> ...planet piss...
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22:56 <wrtlprnft> http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/08/10/2219218
22:56 <wrtlprnft> > ...but it seems to have jump-started efforts to actively recruit female developers within other open source projects as well.
22:56 <wrtlprnft> should we get more women into this project too? ;)
23:15 <spidey> god
23:15 <spidey> i hate the AI
23:15 <spidey> i was doing good then it took over then i came back to ancient army units :(
23:16 <spidey> but i gave a hella fight :D
23:16 <spidey> took out 3 sealth fighters and tons of howitzers with nothing more than cannons and muskets
23:16 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * resources/xevi/xevi-0.0.6.aacockpit.xml: Resource by xevi
23:17 -!- Proclus [i=Proclus@matrox.plus.com] has joined #armagetron
23:21 <spidey> well
23:22 <spidey> someone bruteforced the password to my soldat srever
23:22 <spidey> fuck
23:23 <wrtlprnft> if it was like the password of your arma server it doesn't surprise me
23:23 <spidey> nah
23:23 <spidey> was like the password i use on my webserver
23:23 <spidey> and ask luke, it's a good password
23:24 <wrtlprnft> if in doubt use the md5sum of your kernel :P
23:24 <wrtlprnft> assuming you compiled it yourself
23:24 <spidey> ...
23:24 <spidey> it's a webserver
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23:29 <wrtlprnft> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=85241#85241 <-- and it hit the world forums again
23:30 <wrtlprnft> maybe guru3 should autoban everyone makes a new thread in that forum? The bots seem to be the only ones who do.
23:30 <wrtlprnft> *everyone who makes
23:31 -!- Proclus is now known as dht
23:34 <spidey> hmm
23:34 <spidey> i accidently chown'd the whole soldat folder :D
23:35 <spidey> there we go
23:36 -!- dht is now known as Proclus
23:37 <spidey> 68.77.1.233  gotta love remote admin clients ;x
23:41 <spidey> acid@server [~/public_html/soldat]# ls
23:41 <spidey> w
23:41 <spidey> t
23:41 <spidey> f
23:41 <Your_mom_arm1> f
23:41 <Your_mom_arm1> t
23:41 <Your_mom_arm1> w
23:41 <spidey> acid@server [~/public_html/soldat]# ls
23:41 <spidey> 'er
23:41 <spidey> it's not posting it all
23:41 <spidey> acid@server [~/public_html/soldat]# ls
23:42 <spidey> bin/ls: .: Permission denied
23:42 <spidey> ah
23:42 <spidey> there was a / on bin
23:42 <Your_mom_arm1> whats the ratio of male/female developers working on gnome anyway?
23:43 <Your_mom_arm1> we might need a fraction of a woman to be equally as diverse as gnome
23:51 <wrtlprnft> well, we're 100% male as of right now.
23:51 <wrtlprnft> that's assuming noone's hiding his gender
23:52  * wrtlprnft throws a crazy look at Lucifer_arma jk
23:52 <spidey> haha
23:54 <Your_mom_arm1> we only have 20 developers
23:54 <Your_mom_arm1> gnome has hundreds i would assume
23:55 <Your_mom_arm1> adding 6 female developers would only be a small fraction of diversity
23:56 <spidey> assuming there's female tron players that can program :p
23:56 <Your_mom_arm1> not to mention that some people on the devolopers list in arma dont realy do anything
23:56 <Your_mom_arm1> *cough mom*
23:58 <Your_mom_arm1> and only about 14 are still active
23:58 <spidey> http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/734/wtfny6.jpg
23:58 <spidey> -_-
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