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--- Day changed Sun Aug 20 2006
00:00 <spidey> fuck no
00:00 <DrJoeTron> sounds romantic! <3
00:00 <spidey> newports sucks
00:00 <spidey> and she was ugly
00:00 <spidey> so i took the cigarettes and left :D
00:00 <DrJoeTron> beggars cant be choosers :p
00:00 <spidey> i didn't beg
00:00 <DrJoeTron> :D 
00:00 <spidey> i went to buy cigarettes and ended up with a free pack
00:02 <spidey> though i gotta take another shower
00:02 <spidey> it's hot outside
00:05 <spidey> why the hell do stores sell crack lighters
00:06 <spidey> who the hell needs a flame 3 inches tall
00:06 <spidey> -__
00:06 <spidey> -_-
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00:10 <DrJoeTron> i bit the side of my mouff
00:11 <luke-jr_> wah wah
00:16 <Vanhayes> spidey: you can make any bic or bic knock off 3 inches or longer
00:16 <spidey> it's not a bic
00:16 <spidey> and i don't like big flames,they waste fluid
00:17 <Vanhayes> thats not my point I said bic knock off
00:17 <Vanhayes> i didnt say it was smart to do only that you could do it
00:18 <spidey> i'm not a crack head so i don't need it :p
00:19 <spidey> 2 lighters lasted me 3 months
00:19 <spidey> or more
00:19 <Vanhayes> neither am I but uts easy to do
00:19 <Vanhayes> its*
00:19 <spidey> i only use big flames for fireworks ;x
00:19 <Vanhayes> its funny to do  then give it to some one who needs a light
00:20 <luke-jr_> you just answered why someone would need it
00:20 <spidey> ....
00:20 <luke-jr_> cigarettes should be illegal anyway
00:20 <spidey> you only need fireworks 1 time a year
00:20 <luke-jr_> nah
00:20 <spidey> luke-jr_ should be illegal
00:20 <luke-jr_> fireworks are fun year round
00:21 <Vanhayes> I dont really care either way, I dont smole but most of my friends and almost all my family do
00:21 <luke-jr_> doesn't make it right
00:21 <Vanhayes> doesnt make it wrong
00:21 <luke-jr_> anyhow
00:21 <luke-jr_> it is wrong
00:21 <Vanhayes> its unhealthy not wrong
00:21 <luke-jr_> it harms the body
00:21 <luke-jr_> unhealthy is wrong
00:21 <spidey> so
00:21 <luke-jr_> anyway
00:21 <Vanhayes> not it isnt
00:22 <luke-jr_> that's not the biggest reason why it should be illegal
00:22 <spidey> driving can harm the body
00:22 <luke-jr_> the biggest reason is
00:22 <luke-jr_> it's addictive
00:22 <spidey> holding your breathe kills brain cells
00:22 <spidey> fuck it
00:22 <spidey> lets make everything illegal
00:22 <luke-jr_> spidey: driving doesn't inherently harm the body
00:22 <Vanhayes> everyone has some sort of addiction or another
00:22 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes: not chemical
00:22 <spidey> luke-jr_ you're addicted to the internet
00:22 <spidey> lets ban it
00:23 <luke-jr_> no, I'm addicted to caffine
00:23 <Vanhayes> no even worse, low will power
00:23 <spidey> lets make prescription drugs illegal to
00:23 <Vanhayes> chemical you have an excuse anything else its only you to blame
00:23 <spidey> even if you need them
00:23 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes: chemical addictions are a cause for their addiction themselves
00:23 <spidey> they're addictive
00:23 <spidey> infact
00:23 <spidey> lets get rid of tron and freeciv
00:23 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes: some chemical addictions are bad enough that withdrawl will kill
00:23 <spidey> they're addictive aswell
00:24 <luke-jr_> spidey: they're not inherently addictive
00:24 <spidey> so
00:24 <spidey> they're addictive
00:24 <spidey> lets get rid of food
00:24 <spidey> it's addictive
00:24 <spidey> basically, stfu :D
00:24 <luke-jr_> they don't do harm, either
00:24 <dino__> i got cities in size 18 and 19
00:24 <dino__> yay
00:24 <Vanhayes> if we got rid of everything that was bad for us this would be a very dull grey world
00:24 <luke-jr_> gluttony could be illegal and I wouldn't mind
00:24 <spidey> big cities are bad
00:24 <spidey> population pollution
00:25 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes: mainly, just the bad stuff that is inherently addictive
00:25 <dino__> btw that guy i was playing under his game Simon he is playing with us 
00:25 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes: cigarettes, caffeine, that stuff
00:25 <spidey> if we ban cigarettes
00:25 <spidey> we're banning luke-jr_
00:25 <spidey> and blacklisting him
00:25 <spidey> !
00:25 <luke-jr_> you make no sense
00:26 <spidey> neither do you
00:26 <luke-jr_> sure I do
00:26 <spidey> no you don't
00:26 <luke-jr_> there is *nothing* positive about smoking
00:26 <Vanhayes> luke-jr_: nothing dhould be banned at all people should make there own choices
00:26 <spidey> there's nothing positive about the internet
00:26 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes: so it's ok if I kill spidey ?
00:26 <luke-jr_> spidey: pfft, you have much to learn
00:26 <Vanhayes> if your willing to face the consequences yes
00:27 <spidey> there's nothing positive about watching tv
00:27 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes: there are no consequences in anarchy ;p
00:27 <luke-jr_> spidey: ban TV and I won't complain a bit
00:27 <spidey> good so i can tie you up and stab you when i walk by
00:27 <spidey> and i'd get away with it
00:27 <spidey> because anarchy own
00:28 <luke-jr_> spidey: you have a disturbing mind
00:28 <Vanhayes> maybe for you but I have my own set of principles and rules I use to tell me what is right and what is wrong
00:28 <spidey> luke-jr_ you want to kill me, what's the difference?
00:28 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes: right vs wrong is not a matter of opinion
00:28 <spidey> besides i wanna stab you slowly multiple times
00:28 <Vanhayes> yes it is
00:28 <luke-jr_> spidey: I never said I wanted to
00:28 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes: not at all
00:28 <Vanhayes> ok
00:28 <Vanhayes> how so?
00:28 <luke-jr_> how so what?
00:28 <spidey> wait
00:28 <spidey> so
00:28 <spidey> what decides right and wrong
00:28 <Vanhayes> How is it not a matter of oppinion?
00:28 <spidey> you?
00:28 <spidey> me?
00:29 <luke-jr_> spidey: God
00:29 <spidey> GOD?
00:29 <spidey> fuck god
00:29 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes: right vs wrong is part of truth
00:29 <luke-jr_> objective fact
00:29 <Vanhayes> you dont always know the truth though
00:29 <luke-jr_> perhaps not
00:29 <spidey> so,lets see
00:29 <luke-jr_> but that doesn't change that it is not opinion
00:29 <spidey> wait
00:29 <spidey> we're all going to hell
00:29 <dino__> arent you going to play 
00:29 <luke-jr_> someone can have a wrong perception of the truth without it changing the truth
00:30 <Vanhayes> what was right based on what you thought was truth could be wrong once that truth is shown to be a lie
00:30 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes: it's either right or wrong. Just because you think it's right doesn't make it so.
00:30 <Vanhayes> it make it so for me
00:30 <spidey> luke-jr_ so you living in a house with food and water, and people living on the streets without, isn't wrong!?!? 
00:30 <spidey> why don't you do soemthing !?!
00:30 <luke-jr_> no, it makes your perception wrong
00:30 <spidey> wait
00:30 <spidey> wait
00:30 <Vanhayes> and since I cant be anyone else that makes it Right.
00:31 <luke-jr_> spidey: I work for my home and food.
00:31 <Vanhayes> there is no clearly stated right or wrong, all we have is what we perceive is right or wrong
00:31 <spidey> you expect people with shitty clothes to be able to get a job??
00:31 <spidey> you're out of your mind,too
00:31 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes: there is infallible teaching on many issues
00:31 <luke-jr_> spidey: certainly, even if a minimum wage job
00:32 <Vanhayes> but those teachings only reflect what the teacher believes is right and wrong
00:32 <spidey> would you hire someone with clothes that haven't been washed in 2 weeks with holes in them??
00:32 <spidey> if someone better came along,you'd hire the bum?
00:32 <spidey> i doubt it
00:32 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes: that's why the teacher needs to be guaranteed to be correct
00:32 <luke-jr_> spidey: you assume someone better will come along
00:32 <luke-jr_> spidey: many minimum wage jobs can't hire someone better
00:32 <spidey> i assume
00:33 <Vanhayes> there is no guarantee that they could be correct
00:33 <luke-jr_> someone better will work for more than min wage
00:33 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes: there can be
00:33 <Vanhayes> explain
00:33 <spidey> luke-jr_ you would want someone working for you who looked like shit? 
00:33 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes: Truth/God Himself will always be correct
00:33 <spidey> and stinks?
00:33 <luke-jr_> spidey: depends on the job, obviously
00:33 <luke-jr_> spidey: think physical labor
00:33 <spidey> exactly, noone will hire them
00:34 <spidey> it's a matter of fact
00:34 <luke-jr_> McD will =p
00:34 <spidey> i doubt it
00:34 <luke-jr_> I don't
00:34 <luke-jr_> they're desperate
00:34 <spidey> even mcd has standards
00:34 <luke-jr_> they train people
00:34 <luke-jr_> they issue uniforms
00:35  * spidey yawns
00:35 <luke-jr_> all a bum would need is the desire to work, and maybe access to a shower for 2 weeks
00:35 <spidey> where would they get a shower for freE?
00:35 <Vanhayes> but (asuming there is a god) how do you know that truth you have, which is 2000 years old and copied down by human beings is what god had originally set down as "truth"
00:36 <luke-jr_> spidey: rain? municipal pools?
00:36 <spidey> what's the golden rule luke?
00:36 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes: God started His Church specifically to preserve the Truth, and guaranteed protection from error
00:36 <spidey> luke-jr_ if you believe and honor that
00:36 <Vanhayes> so when did god start his church?
00:37 <spidey> go get a bum and nurture him
00:37 <spidey> or stfu
00:37 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes: When He came to Earth the first time
00:37 <luke-jr_> spidey: I would, if I found any who wanted to work
00:37 <Vanhayes> sooo how long ago was this?
00:37 <spidey> you're not looking
00:37 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes: about 2000 years ago
00:37 <spidey> you're wanting them to come to you
00:37 <Vanhayes> and how do you know this?
00:37 <luke-jr_> spidey: they do anyway-- but they want handouts, not help working
00:38 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes: multiple historical records, including but not limited to infallible teachings of the Church
00:39 <spidey> church sucks
00:39 <spidey> they use the new testiment
00:39 <spidey> which is rewritten
00:40 <spidey> christians also suck
00:40 <Vanhayes> so how much do I have to pay to get into heaven?
00:40 <spidey> and christmas was stolen from the peagons
00:40 <Vanhayes> winter solstice yes
00:41 <luke-jr_> Christmas is celebrated when it is to avoid persecution by pagans
00:42 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes: pay? only what you can afford to tithe
00:42 <Vanhayes> tithe?
00:42 <luke-jr_> donate to the Church
00:42 <spidey> pshs
00:42 <Vanhayes> so If I pay the church I can get into heaven?
00:42 <luke-jr_> not really payment
00:42 <luke-jr_> no
00:42 <spidey> donate to the church my ass
00:42 <luke-jr_> you asked specifically about moneyh
00:43 <spidey> that money goes to the preacher
00:43 <Vanhayes> well thats how it used to be
00:43 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes: the Church has always been the same, and never about paying into heaven
00:43 <Vanhayes> hmm I know about all my history books Ive used that say you are wrong
00:43 <spidey> well
00:44 <luke-jr_> there was a time period when rich snobs misunderstood indulgences, but that's all
00:44 <spidey> if there's a heaven and hell,i goto hell for my beleifs, if not i laugh at luke-jr_ for dying and being no more
00:44 <luke-jr_> spidey: if not, you don't exist anymore so can't laugh
00:44 <Vanhayes> what is peridition luke-jr_ ? when did it start?
00:45 <luke-jr_> #g  peridition
00:45 <armabot> Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
00:45 <luke-jr_> #dict  peridition
00:45 <armabot> luke-jr_: No definition for "peridition" could be found.
00:45  * spidey thinks luke-jr_ is one of those asshole christians who try to force there beleifs on people
00:45 <spidey> which from what i've heard isn't what a christian is about :)
00:45 <luke-jr_> you've heard from heretics, then
00:46 <spidey> i went to church, when i was 5
00:46 <luke-jr_> not real Christians
00:46 <spidey> real christians?
00:46 <spidey> you mean the ones that tried to steal the place "jesus" was borne?
00:46 <luke-jr_> ...
00:46 <spidey> bitch
00:46 <spidey> jesus was a jew
00:46 <luke-jr_> so?
00:46 <spidey> where's christianity come in
00:47 <luke-jr_> Christianity is the fulfilment of Judaism, and replaces it
00:47 <luke-jr_> Neo-Judaism is just another false belief system
00:47 <spidey> replaces it?
00:47 <spidey> you mean something man decided right?
00:47 <luke-jr_> no
00:47 <spidey> yes
00:48 <luke-jr_> something God decided
00:48 <spidey> right
00:48 <spidey> so god told you to be christian?
00:48 <luke-jr_> He created Judaism to be fulfilled by Christianity
00:48 <spidey> what about japanese? are they going to hell because they believe in buddism?
00:48 <Vanhayes> so seeing as christianity is being replaced you must be fine with that
00:48 <luke-jr_> Only Catholics are saved.
00:48 <spidey> psh
00:48 <spidey> that's not a god
00:49 <spidey> if it is refer to my first statement
00:49 <spidey> fuck god
00:49 <Vanhayes> ah but all religion is declining luke-jr_ so that must be gods will
00:49 <luke-jr_> that's men rejecting God's Will
00:50 <spidey> why would jesus be jewish if his father wanted everyone to be christian?
00:50 <Vanhayes> well seeing as I dont believe he exists there is nothing for me to reject is there?
00:51 <luke-jr_> spidey: Jewish == Christian
00:51 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes: He exists regardless of your belief to the contrary
00:51 <Vanhayes> no
00:51 <luke-jr_> yes
00:51 <spidey> really??
00:52 <luke-jr_> the mere existence of God was proven a LONG time ago
00:52 <Vanhayes> no it wasnt
00:52 <spidey> you mean by someone smoking pot?
00:52 <luke-jr_> spidey: Jewish is the name for one time period; Christian for another time period
00:52 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes: it was
00:52 <spidey> how?
00:52 <spidey> historical fact?
00:52 <luke-jr_> Aristotle, IIRC, did an early proof
00:53 <spidey> aristotle?
00:53 <spidey> a man....
00:53 <Vanhayes> I wasnt there nor have I meet anyone who was, or anyone who knows anyone who knows someone who was there
00:53 <spidey> lol
00:53 <Vanhayes> so that is my proof he does not exist
00:53 <spidey> i liked that
00:53 <Vanhayes> what is your proof he does?
00:53 <luke-jr_> that's no proof
00:53 <Vanhayes> more than you have
00:53 <luke-jr_> you cannot prove the non-existence of anything supernatural
00:53 <luke-jr_> you can only prove the existence
00:53 <Vanhayes> nor can you prove it
00:54 <luke-jr_> it has been proven, many times
00:54 <spidey> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existence_of_God
00:54 <Vanhayes> you can not prove something that doesnt exist
00:54 <luke-jr_> He does exist, which is why it has been proven
00:54 <spidey> proven?
00:54 <spidey> why don't we hear fro mhim now
00:54 <spidey> why haven't we seen him
00:55 <spidey> i'd be willing to give my life if he showed up
00:55 <luke-jr_> many people have
00:55 <Vanhayes> what about the gods that were there before him?
00:55 <spidey> people?
00:55 <spidey> you mean people wanting attention
00:55 <luke-jr_> but seeing is not sound proof
00:55 <spidey> or
00:55 <Vanhayes> it is the best humans have
00:55 <spidey> you mean people hollucinating?
00:55 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes: there are no other gods, but we were talking about proof of simply the existence of at least one god
00:55 <spidey> no other gods?
00:56 <luke-jr_> seeing is not proof
00:56 <luke-jr_> as spidey points out, hallucination is possible
00:56 <luke-jr_> as are Satanic visions
00:56 <spidey> so that must mean everyone but the americans are going to hell??
00:56 <luke-jr_> and other stuff
00:56 <spidey> 'er
00:56 <spidey> christians
00:56 <Vanhayes> so people were wrong about older gods than "god" ?
00:56 <luke-jr_> non-Catholics cannot go to Heaven
00:56 <spidey> really
00:57 <Vanhayes> him thought it started out as christians way back in the day
00:57 <spidey> somehow i disagree
00:57 <spidey> well
00:57 <Vanhayes> I guess the church was wrong
00:57 <Vanhayes> but it cant be wrong...
00:57 <spidey> seeing as there was civilizations BEFORE catholictism was even thought of
00:58 <spidey> luke-jr_ ok here's a plan
00:58 <spidey> i kill you, you come back and tell me if god exsists
00:58 <luke-jr_> Catholicism was not "thought of"
00:59 <spidey> sure it was
00:59 <luke-jr_> Catholicism is yet another word for the Truth
00:59 <spidey> oh wait
00:59 <spidey> god spoke to a human
00:59 <spidey> i forgot
00:59 <spidey> the chosen ones
00:59 <luke-jr_> no
00:59 <luke-jr_> God Himself started the Church
00:59 <luke-jr_> and planned for it
00:59 <spidey> bullshit
01:00 <Vanhayes> the need to believe in something greater than yourself that controls your actions is weak and cowardly. It gives you the excuse to do what you want without having to take any responsibility for your actions 
01:00 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes: denying the truth is just plain dumb
01:00 <spidey> god is something man invented to explain what he cannot explain
01:01 <Vanhayes> Accepting the "truth" unquestionably is infinitle more so
01:01 <luke-jr_> I accept the truth based on logical and sound evidence
01:02 <spidey> you mean what you've been told is logical and sound evidence?
01:02 <spidey> not what you know for a hard fact
01:02 <spidey> right?
01:02 <spidey> you can't tell me you've met god in person and know this is a fact
01:02 <spidey> so stfu
01:03  * luke-jr_ tells spidey he's met God in person and knows this is a fact. =p
01:03 <spidey> ihah
01:04 <spidey> you lied
01:04 <spidey> christians don't lie
01:04 <spidey> you're going to hell
01:04 <luke-jr_> sarcasm isn't a lie
01:04 <Vanhayes> hmm what is it then?
01:04 <spidey> sarcasm is irellavent
01:04 <Vanhayes> it isnt the truth
01:04 <Vanhayes> and if it isnt true than it is a lie
01:05 <spidey> maybe "god" was started as sarcasm
01:05 <spidey> and they got attention
01:05 <spidey> so continued it
01:05 <spidey> simple fact you don't know for sure
01:05 <spidey> so you can't preach about it
01:07 <Vanhayes> well seeing as 50 years ago if you asked 100 people if they all went to church at least 90% would tell you yes, now if you asked 100 people the same question I would be surprised if 20% said yes
01:07 <luke-jr_> I do know for sure
01:07 <luke-jr_> so stfu
01:07 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes: irrelevant
01:07 <spidey> how??
01:07 <spidey> show me
01:07 <Vanhayes> no
01:07 <spidey> give me hard evidence
01:07 <spidey> not some historical bullshit
01:08 <spidey> didn't think so :)
01:11 <spidey> you're going to hell because you're not catholic*so luke jr says)
01:11 <luke-jr_> in the time of St. Alphonsus, an estimated 3 in 100,000 were saved. It's even fewer today
01:11 <spidey> my status on msn
01:11 <spidey> you're saved because you get dumped in water???
01:11  * spidey jumps in the bathtub
01:11 <luke-jr_> baptism isn't merely dumping water
01:11 <spidey> it's a bunch of yelling 
01:12 <spidey> sounds kinda like oprical
01:12 <Vanhayes> luke-jr_: im done, I dont know what will happen when I die, you could be right, but to presume that yours is the one and only belief that is correct and all others are damned, is so arrogant and foolish for if your wrong and those you condemed to be damned are not,then how forgiving do you think they might be? 
01:12 <Vanhayes> anyway Im off for a bitt Im going out to get shittered
01:12 <Vanhayes> cya
01:13 <spidey> and i'm going to sleep :D
01:15 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes: if they're right, then they're just dead and so am I and there's nobody to forgive or be forgiven =p
01:15 <luke-jr_> and I've "wasted" my life doing my best to be as perfect as I am capable of
01:15 <luke-jr_> but that also is irrelevant, because I'd still be dead
01:15 <luke-jr_> and nothing would matter
01:16 <luke-jr_> or have any purpose or meaning
01:16 <spidey> ./mentally ignore luke-jr_
01:16  * spidey goes to sleep
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01:24 <dino__> do you guys know who was playing under "Simon" in freeciv?
01:24 <dino__> the ukranian
01:27 <luke-jr_> you
01:30 <dino__> i was compliting his game
01:30 <dino__> but there was someone before i enter
01:39 <luke-jr_> o
01:39 <luke-jr_> the AI?
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02:50 <GodTodd> i am so fucking sick of christians crying 'persecution'
02:53 <Legit> LoL
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03:57 <dino__> luke-jr_, 
03:58 <dino__> damn
03:58 <dino__> that ai was the harder
03:58 <dino__> but we nuke him
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05:18 <DrJoeTron> ok
05:18 <DrJoeTron> how many of you have english as a 2nd language
05:18 <hang3r> hey joe ;)
05:19 <DrJoeTron> >-;;,ccc3 hang!
05:19 <hang3r> long time no see :)
05:19 <DrJoeTron> oh hasnt it just
05:20 <hang3r> whats been happening in tron land?
05:20 <hang3r> what have I missed
05:20 <DrJoeTron> same as it ever was
05:20 <DrJoeTron> same as it ever was
05:20 <DrJoeTron> same as it ever was
05:20 <DrJoeTron> same as it.... ever was!
05:20 <DrJoeTron> i love that song
05:21 <DrJoeTron> ah, nothing new and or exciting
05:21 <DrJoeTron> cept for me comming on to irc finally
05:21 <DrJoeTron> which is more like a burden reallly
05:21 <DrJoeTron> to the rest of the worl
05:21 <DrJoeTron> d
05:21 <Lucifer_arma> you're missing evryone playing freeciv, heh
05:21 <hang3r> haha, hey luci
05:26 <DrJoeTron> hey
05:26 <DrJoeTron> who here knows DOS commands
05:26 <DrJoeTron> how do i switch the directory to the desktop :/
05:26 <DrJoeTron> totally forgot
05:32 <DrJoeTron> figured it out
05:48 <hang3r> "cd %homepath%\des[press tab]"
05:48 <hang3r> :)
05:48 <hang3r> or if des doesnt return desktop when you press tab, press it some more
05:50 <DrJoeTron> CD dresktop :D
05:50 <DrJoeTron> desktop*
05:50 <DrJoeTron> i was teaching someone how to merge files together
05:52 <hang3r> yeah well if you are starting of in documents and settings then "cd desktop" will obviously work =P
05:56 <DrJoeTron> :d
05:56 <DrJoeTron> hang do you have a ds?
06:06 <hang3r> err, a ds?
06:07 <DrJoeTron> guess not :/
06:08 <GodTodd> blergle
06:10 <hang3r> you mean a Nintendo DS, sorry im tired havent been to sleep :/
06:10 <hang3r> no i dont 
06:10 <DrJoeTron> ya
06:11 <hang3r> id rather a psp anyday though :P
06:11 <DrJoeTron> pfft no way
06:11 <DrJoeTron> all of its 2 games :D
06:13 <DrJoeTron> il get a psp when it isnt 250 bucks
06:13 <hang3r> http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?type=games&sort=views&letter=999&dlx_type=all&sortdir=desc
06:13 <hang3r> looks like more then two games to me :)
06:13 <DrJoeTron> they're all ports :D
06:13 <DrJoeTron> lumines, and wipeout pure
06:14 <DrJoeTron> oh and hotshots golf
06:14 <hang3r> yeah that wasnt sorted by psp
06:14 <DrJoeTron> it doesnt seem worth it too me
06:14 <hang3r> heres the link to psp games http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?platform=1024&category=&type=games&mode=top&sort=views&sortdir=desc
06:14 <DrJoeTron> 250 dollars isnt worht it yet
06:14 <DrJoeTron> id only get one for the homebrew support
06:14 <DrJoeTron> other wise
06:15 <DrJoeTron> ds lite is way cheaper
06:15 <DrJoeTron> and the battery life is much better
06:15 <DrJoeTron> though hardware wise
06:15 <DrJoeTron> psp, nice friggin stuff
06:16 <hang3r> hmm, depenends on what you wont i guess, if you want a portable media player that also plays games (and racing sims which im into) and have the money, then its the psp by far
06:16 <DrJoeTron> hehe
06:16 <DrJoeTron> yeah
06:16 <DrJoeTron> i play mario kart and tetris
06:16 <DrJoeTron> and those are a blast online
06:16 <hang3r> *depends 
06:16 <hang3r> lol
06:17 <DrJoeTron> however
06:17 <DrJoeTron> rumors have it
06:18 <DrJoeTron> by holiday time
06:18 <DrJoeTron> 150 bucks psp
06:18 <DrJoeTron> = :D
06:18 <DrJoeTron> that i will get
06:18 <DrJoeTron> fuck yeah
06:18 <DrJoeTron> but 250
06:19 <DrJoeTron> and look at ridge racer
06:19 <DrJoeTron> the battery lasts 90 minutes  with the game and wifi running?
06:19 <DrJoeTron> noooo thanks
06:21 <luke-jr_> boo
06:21 <luke-jr_> the AIs have me reduced to 1 city
06:22 <luke-jr_> hang3r: tab doesn't work on Windows...
06:23 <hang3r> luke-jr_: what makes you say that?
06:24 <luke-jr_> experience? =p
06:24 <hang3r> some thing tells me luke hasnt been running windows since the 9x days ;)
06:24 <hang3r> *somthing
06:24 <luke-jr_> 2000
06:24 <hang3r> with an e
06:24 <luke-jr_> Win2k
06:25 <hang3r> yeah its not enabled by default in 2k, in XP it is
06:26 <hang3r> http://www.allisonfamily.org/bill/library/tips/tab_completion.html
06:28 <hang3r> "experience" =p
06:45 <GodTodd> hrmm
06:45 <luke-jr_> anyway
06:46 <luke-jr_> so the AIs were all attacking me
06:46 <luke-jr_> and got me down to only 1 city
06:46 <luke-jr_> so all of a sudden
06:46 <luke-jr_> that 1 city's only produce is Nuclear
07:04 <hang3r> Will there be an option to change the new style glance (the one thats in 0.3.0) back to the old pre-0.2.8 glance?
07:04 <hang3r> or does that option already exist?
07:11 <luke-jr_> yes
07:14 <hang3r> yes there will be an option to change glance style, or yes there is an option already to change it... If the later, whats it called/where can i find it.
07:15 <luke-jr_> no clue
07:15 <luke-jr_> I just know it will be an option
07:15 <luke-jr_> before 1.0
07:15 <hang3r> hmm, well i found something about custom glance in the menu's, thought maybe that was it
07:16 <hang3r> but couldnt find anyway to configure it
07:16 <luke-jr_> custom stuff is usually manually configured
07:22 <hang3r> yes, true, although for this it would make sense to be able to adjust it from the menus.... Anyway
07:23 <hang3r> SMART_GLANCE_CUSTOM_1 - 4, in the 0.3.0 user config file, however i have no idea what they do :(
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> there needs to be a "I won't destroy you" treaty clause
07:24 <GodTodd> heh
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> SO I can say "You give me Gronningen, and I won't destroy you"
07:24 <spidey> ?
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> the ai is sailing around in triremes and I just rolled my first destroyer into the ocean
07:26 <GodTodd> good god...the germans have like 30 cities and 20 settlers
07:26 <GodTodd> on a damn island
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> heh, this guy's spreading like a disease, it's going to be several nasty campaigns.  I want bombers before I start.
07:27 <GodTodd> well...i'm allied with the germans...for now ;)
07:27 <hang3r> hmm, maybe i should check out freeciv, sounds interesting 
07:28 <Lucifer_arma> man, it's pretty fun
07:28 <GodTodd> careful though....you may not sleep for a while ;)
07:28 <GodTodd> heh
07:29 <spidey> #last --from Lucifer_arma --with www.
07:29 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, heh
07:29 <armabot> spidey: [07:17:18] <Lucifer_arma> host: www.davefancella.com
07:29 <Lucifer_arma> and when you lay down you'll be thinking about your next campaign
07:29 <Lucifer_arma> sorry spidey, I"m playing a local game
07:29 <spidey> -_-
07:29 <GodTodd> ahhh you've begun dreaming about freeciv now, eh? ;)
07:29 <Lucifer_arma> I could start up another game, but I'm interested in playing on a generated map instead
07:29 <spidey> ok
07:30 <spidey> as long as landmass is bigger
07:30 <spidey> :D
07:30 <Lucifer_arma> haven't started dreaming about it yet, but I lie there in bed thinking about my next campaign
07:30 <spidey> and i don't get some small ass island -_-
07:30 <GodTodd> haha
07:30  * GodTodd gives spidey a small ass island.
07:30 <spidey> bah
07:30 <Lucifer_arma> my ass is a small island
07:30 <GodTodd> bahaha
07:30 <spidey> full of oilfeilds ? ;)
07:31 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, it's well-lubed
07:31 <GodTodd> well...something dark anyway
07:31 <GodTodd> heh
07:31 <spidey> :p
07:31  * GodTodd flips luci the KY.
07:31 <GodTodd> haha
07:31 <Lucifer_arma> so who's up for a game?
07:31 <spidey> hmm
07:32 <GodTodd> fuckin' taiwanese :/
07:32 <spidey> i think i'ma make a mp3 list instead of listening to the radio
07:32 <spidey> gimme a sec
07:32 <Lucifer_arma> I've got a local game going right now, so if there aren't many players I'll just keep what I"m doing.  I wanted to run an awesome campaign against a large enemy, and that's exactly what the computer gave me
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07:33 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: that's "Cease-fire"
07:33 <spidey> ok
07:33 <Lucifer_arma> you can't agree to cease-fire if you're "neutral" can you?
07:33 <luke-jr_> hang3r: we're  planning an Armagetron Civilizations game based on it
07:33 <spidey> no i'm not
07:34 <Lucifer_arma> I mean, you cancel treaty to get to ceasefire
07:34 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: they can't desttroy you if you're neutral too
07:34 <spidey> sounds like shit listening to it from the computer
07:34 <spidey> ---
07:34 <spidey> unless
07:34 <spidey> lemme hook a speaker up
07:34 <Lucifer_arma> no wait, you're right, you don't cancel treaty to get to cease-fire
07:34 <Lucifer_arma> I'm a try that and see what he says
07:34  * luke-jr_ 's busy compiling KDE 4
07:34 <hang3r> luke-jr_: you mean like a match?
07:35 <luke-jr_> hang3r: eh?
07:35 <hang3r> i  havent played the game so i have no idea what you're talking about clearly
07:35 <Lucifer_arma> he didn't go for it
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> I guess I'm going to war with cannons and destroyers, I'll have to develop flight on-the-fly, as it were
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> better start staging
07:36 <luke-jr_> hang3r: TRON version
07:37 <luke-jr_> hang3r: ever play a Civilizations game?
07:37 <Lucifer_arma> cannons and musketeers, bleh
07:37 <hang3r> nope sadly, am i missing out?
07:37 <Lucifer_arma> I need to call myself Napolean if I'm doing that
07:37 <Lucifer_arma> yes hang3r , you're missing out
07:37 <hang3r> :..(
07:37 <Lucifer_arma> go read the manual a bit :)
07:37 <luke-jr_> hang3r: missing out of Freeciv, yes
07:37 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.freeciv.org/
07:38 <luke-jr_> hang3r: think SimCity with competition
07:38 <luke-jr_> hang3r: like war, or space races
07:39 <spidey> yes!
07:39 <spidey> Lucifer_arma gimme 5 minutes to build a mp3 list
07:39 <luke-jr_> DrJoeTron: ping
07:39 <DrJoeTron> yeah?
07:40 <luke-jr_> DrJoeTron: so you gonna make the TRON ver w/ me? =p
07:40 <Lucifer_arma> only unlike simcity, you're not building one city, you're building an entire civilization
07:40 <DrJoeTron> if you want to sure
07:40 <Lucifer_arma> you start with just a few settlers, maybe some workers and an explorer, and build from there
07:40 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: yeah, I meant SimCity in a more general sense =p
07:40 <DrJoeTron> haha im glad you want to
07:40 <luke-jr_> DrJoeTron: ...?
07:40 <Lucifer_arma> there's a technology race always going on, and when you go to war you have to deal with logistics :)
07:40 <luke-jr_> if you go to war...
07:40 <Lucifer_arma> but it's nicely abstracted so it not only doesn't weigh down the game, it enhances it
07:40 <GodTodd> logistics? what are these you speak of?
07:40 <GodTodd> heh
07:41 <Lucifer_arma> right, "if", because if you're doing well in technology and production you can go for the space race
07:41 <GodTodd> or a bit of both
07:41 <GodTodd> ;)
07:41 <hang3r> yeah im reading now, sounds interesting, going to give it a try now
07:41 <Lucifer_arma> the winner is the first player who a) conquers the world OR b) sends a successful colonization mission to Alpha Centauri
07:41 <GodTodd> actually....i landed the ship and lost a game by 3 points :/
07:41 <Lucifer_arma> conquer the world is defined as "destroying all other civilizations"
07:41 <Lucifer_arma> really?
07:41 <GodTodd> yep
07:42 <GodTodd> mom beat me
07:42 <GodTodd> 238 to 235
07:42 <luke-jr_> or you can go for top score by $endyear
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> ok, the iwnner is the person with the most points, the game ends when one of the two conditions I've given is reached
07:42 <GodTodd> better :)
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> I haven't been playing for points, I like playing for objectives :)
07:42 <luke-jr_> endyear can also end the game
07:42 <spidey> points are useless if your civ gets whiped out
07:42 <GodTodd> me too...that's why i lost that game...or else i would have pumped up the population
07:42 <spidey> so i like to balance mine
07:43 <luke-jr_> you have no points if your civ gets wiped out =p
07:43 <Lucifer_arma> well, I think I finally learned how to properly defend a city, at least
07:43 <Lucifer_arma> and it makes sense when you think about it.  Fortified infantry gives the highest defense rating, and artillery on auto-attack supports the infantry nicely
07:43 <luke-jr_> DrJoeTron: have you even played it yet?
07:43 <spidey> [01:44] <spidey> points are useless if your civ gets whiped out
07:43 <DrJoeTron> i've almost started :p
07:43 <DrJoeTron> i will soon
07:44 <spidey> stop rewording me,trying to make me sound wrong -_-
07:44 <DrJoeTron> ive been busy
07:44 <luke-jr_> spidey: points are never useless-- lack of them is
07:44 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: think DrJoeTron can get Svn access? =p
07:44 <spidey> if you're dead are are the useful?
07:44 <GodTodd> actually....points are always useless...they don't put bread on MY table :P
07:44 <luke-jr_> spidey: sure, but you don't have any
07:45 <DrJoeTron> buh?
07:45 <luke-jr_> points are yummy
07:45 <luke-jr_> they taste good
07:45 <Lucifer_arma> no, but factories rule
07:45 <Lucifer_arma> the person who wins any campaign is the one who arrives there the firstest with the mostest
07:45 <GodTodd> not as much as hydro and mfg plants ;)
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07:46 <Lucifer_arma> the hydro and mfg plants can't be built without factories :)
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> factories are the gateway to global domination!
07:46 <GodTodd> true...but they are better :)
07:46 <GodTodd> that they are
07:46 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: think DrJoeTron can get Svn access? =p
07:46 <DrJoeTron> ???
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> why?  what's he going to do?
07:46 <DrJoeTron> i dont understand
07:46 <DrJoeTron> whats going on
07:46 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: work on Arma Civs
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> only if you want it to wind up looking like Megaman
07:47 <luke-jr_> lol
07:47 <GodTodd> haha
07:47 <DrJoeTron> give me time luc
07:47 <DrJoeTron> give me time
07:47 <DrJoeTron> hmm...
07:47 <DrJoeTron> actually
07:47 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: well, AFAIK nobody else wants to help out
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> maybe the rest of us are happy with what we got?
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> maybe the rest of us don't want to get involved in yet another game project?  heh
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> I can just see it now.  "Official Release:  Armagetron Advanced developers have taken over the FreeCiv project!"
07:48 <spidey> ok
07:48 <spidey> ready when you are
07:48 <luke-jr_> heh
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> wait, who wants to play?
07:49 <GodTodd> i might if i have a couple minutes to get me a drink
07:49 <GodTodd> goddamn summer
07:49 <GodTodd> heh
07:49 <luke-jr_> in a few months you'll be complaining about winter
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07:50 <spidey> deja_vu_
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> you got time if we're going to play, I need to move back inside anyway before my battery dies
07:50 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: you don't have wireless power yet?
07:50  * DrJoeTron is finally labelling his mp3's
07:50 <spidey> heh
07:50 <spidey> i got llike 400
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> no, but there's an outlet behind me, I just didn't bring out the adapter
07:50 <luke-jr_> I have a few thousand.... >.>
07:50 <DrJoeTron> i have like 11 left
07:50 <spidey> i just threw them in te player and looked for the ones i knew i liked
07:51 <DrJoeTron> just loaded in Traffic :D
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> Real Men measure their mp3's in GigaBytes
07:51 <GodTodd> luke-jr_: actually the winters in NTX aren't bad....got used to NE :P
07:51 <spidey> then moved them to the top
07:51 <DrJoeTron> John Barleycorn Must Die.
07:51 <spidey> i got 2+gb
07:51 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: too much that I had to expand to an external HD? =p
07:51 <DrJoeTron> one of my favorite albums :D
07:51 <spidey> good enough for ya??
07:51 <DrJoeTron> 15.8 here :D
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> 13GB here
07:51 <spidey> shush
07:51 <spidey> i have more movies than you all
07:51 <spidey> my movies span 2 harddrives
07:51 <luke-jr_> I doubt it
07:51 <spidey> ;x
07:51 <luke-jr_> my movies fill numerous DVDs
07:51 <DrJoeTron> shit
07:51 <spidey> i got 50 on my 40gig drive
07:51 <DrJoeTron> did i say 15?
07:51 <luke-jr_> only 50?
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> I've got better things to do with my time than watch another shitty movie
07:51 <spidey> and 93 on this 111gig
07:52 <spidey> so i got over 130
07:52 <luke-jr_> movie count is lame
07:52 <luke-jr_> do it in hours
07:52 <DrJoeTron> i have about 34 gigs of music
07:52 <spidey> fuck that
07:52 <spidey> you do it in hourse
07:52 <spidey> hours
07:52 <luke-jr_> =p
07:52 <luke-jr_> I'll easily win in hours
07:52 <DrJoeTron> 15.7 days worth of music :d
07:52 <Lucifer_arma> well, if you want to count "all music", I've probably got you all beat
07:52 <luke-jr_> cuz then I can add all my anime and X-Files
07:52 <spidey> lol
07:52 <Lucifer_arma> but that's only because of uncompressed recorded guitar tracks
07:52 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: count hours =p
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> no!  heh
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> because 1 hour is about 600MB :)
07:53 <spidey> all my movies are 1hr 30 minutes plus
07:53 <luke-jr_> I have too much video to list
07:53 <spidey> #g 1h30min * 143
07:53 <armabot> Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> and that's for the final stream, at 1/2 of my record done I was occupying 30 GB in recorded tracks
07:53 <spidey> !!
07:53 <luke-jr_> I don't remember half of it, I'm sure
07:53 <spidey> #g 1:30*143
07:53 <armabot> Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
07:53 <luke-jr_> let's see...
07:54 <spidey> ...
07:54 <luke-jr_> first anime was Bishoujosenshi Sailormoon
07:54 <luke-jr_> then Kaitou Saint Tail
07:54 <spidey> i have over 200hours of movies :p
07:54 <luke-jr_> then Card Captor Sakura
07:54 <spidey> sailormoon!?
07:54 <spidey> fag
07:54 <luke-jr_> actually, CCS was before KST
07:54 <DrJoeTron> card captors?
07:54 <DrJoeTron> weeeak
07:54 <luke-jr_> no
07:54 <luke-jr_> Card Captor Sakura
07:54 <luke-jr_> not the lame copyoff
07:54 <luke-jr_> I forget what was after KST
07:54 <DrJoeTron> for anime, i have outlaw star and FMA on this machine
07:55 <Lucifer_arma> so who wants to play some freeciv right now?  There's me, spidey, and godtodd, and with that collection I'd like to have 3 ais
07:55 <spidey> do i get to count my dragonball z dvd's i've had forever???
07:55 <luke-jr_> Inuyasha had a few hundred episodes, plenty of hours there
07:55 <DrJoeTron> ewwww
07:55 <luke-jr_> Magic Knight Rayearth
07:55 <spidey> Lucifer_arma me
07:55 <DrJoeTron> inuyasha = DBZ for girls :p
07:55 <luke-jr_> spidey: sure, that might make you compete with me
07:55 <luke-jr_> hm, what else
07:55 <luke-jr_> ReBoot
07:55 <DrJoeTron> HAHAHA
07:55 <DrJoeTron> oh god
07:55 <luke-jr_> Noir
07:55 <spidey> do i get to count my VHS's to??
07:55 <DrJoeTron> welcome back to 1997 :p
07:55 <spidey> i got a shitload of them
07:55 <luke-jr_> Bubblegum Crisis
07:56 <DrJoeTron> bubblegum crisis eh...
07:56 <luke-jr_> all the Planet of the Apes movies
07:56 <DrJoeTron> you fan of big o?
07:56 <luke-jr_> some Red Vs Blue
07:56 <luke-jr_> never heard of it
07:56 <luke-jr_> Rockman.EXE
07:56 <luke-jr_> X-Files
07:56 <luke-jr_> 3x X-Men
07:56 <DrJoeTron> Venture bros half of season 2 so far
07:56 <luke-jr_> Aa! Megami-sama original, movie, and recent
07:56 <luke-jr_> Ranma 1/2
07:57 <luke-jr_> 2001 & 2010
07:57 <spidey> we playing? :p
07:57 <luke-jr_> Help!, City of Angels, Conspiracy Theory
07:57 <luke-jr_> Short Circuit 1 & 2
07:57 <luke-jr_> a few Ernest
07:57 <DrJoeTron> Bwahahaha!
07:57 <DrJoeTron> oh god short circuit
07:57 <luke-jr_> Star Wars x6
07:57 <luke-jr_> TRON
07:57 <spidey> luke-jr_ you counting this from your harddrives?
07:58 <spidey> or DVD's
07:58 <spidey> because DVD's don't count
07:58 <luke-jr_> HDs so far
07:58 <luke-jr_> sure they do, I'll get to em eventually
07:58 <luke-jr_> Whisper of the Heart, Tsubasa Chronicle
07:58 <spidey> psh
07:58 <luke-jr_> Figure 17
07:58 <spidey> i've got 60+ dvd's at my mom's
07:58 <luke-jr_> Hunt for Red October
07:58 <spidey> i bought one a day for 2 months when i was on the truck with my uncle
07:58 <DrJoeTron> luke-jr_ is why it costs 8 bucks for a movie ticket :D
07:58 <spidey> $10 a dvd is cheap at a truck stop
07:58 <luke-jr_> Narnia x4 (original, not Disney crap)
07:59 <DrJoeTron> hey you take that back!
07:59 <spidey> ahah
07:59 <luke-jr_> Radio, Sphere, Super Mario Bros
07:59 <luke-jr_> Sealab, Sonic X
07:59 <luke-jr_> The Time Machine
07:59 <spidey> Lucifer_arma server up?
07:59 <DrJoeTron> its Liam fucking Neeson!
07:59 <GodTodd> wow...i have 44.9 GB of music heh
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> not yet, we only have 3 players so far, and I suggested 3 ais to match
08:00 <luke-jr_> The Lone Gunmen
08:00 <luke-jr_> Hangar 18
08:00 <spidey> 3???
08:00 <spidey> you're crazy
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> not sure I want to play with only 3 players, I've got a nice invasion building :)
08:00 <spidey> last time we had 3 they owned  us big time
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> ok, 2 then
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> but we increase the land mass and hit the "1 player per island" button so we have time to expand
08:01 <luke-jr_> Office Space
08:01 <luke-jr_> Patch Adams
08:01 <spidey> invasion building??
08:01 <luke-jr_> School of Rock
08:01 <spidey> we're not starting a new game?
08:01 <luke-jr_> ok, I'm done listing for now
08:02 <spidey> wow
08:02 <luke-jr_> wtf is a genuine replica, btw?
08:02 <spidey> my stereo is on 23
08:02 <spidey> and my speakers half way up
08:02 <spidey> and it's just loud enough to hear
08:02 <spidey> i think i broke the adapter i made
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm playing a local game right now and enjoying it
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> I'm going to whip this ai's ass if we don't start a game with human players :)
08:02 <spidey> deja_vu_ deja_vu_ deja_vu_ deja_vu_ deja_vu_
08:03 <spidey> me you luke and todd
08:03 <spidey> that's 4
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> vanhayes is out getting drunk and luke said he's building KDE 4
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> so he can't play, apparently
08:03 <spidey> bah
08:03 <spidey> reminds me
08:03 <luke-jr_> KDE 4 wants unreleased Dbus and Qt
08:03 <luke-jr_> so it's on hold again
08:03 <spidey> well nah, i'll let it set in there a year to -_-
08:04 <luke-jr_> I need to get to bed soon tho
08:04 <spidey> psh
08:04 <spidey> i only got like 6 hours sleep after a 16 hour game
08:04 <spidey> you'll live
08:04 <spidey> :p
08:04 <luke-jr_> that and I'm starting to prefer local games
08:05 <spidey> -_-
08:05 <luke-jr_> cuz I don't need to wait for certain people to finish their turn
08:05 <spidey> well if there was timelimit we wouldn't have to worry about that would we
08:05 <luke-jr_> and there's little benefit to multiplayer when the humans act like AIs and declare wars on everyone
08:05 <luke-jr_> yes we would
08:05 <spidey> nah
08:06 <luke-jr_> there are times where I just hit Shift-Enter repeatedly
08:06 <spidey> besides i have that option enabled and it works nicely
08:06 <spidey> so Lucifer_arma is the only one we'll wait on
08:06 <luke-jr_> I say make it a RTS
08:06 <luke-jr_> =p
08:06 <spidey> ...
08:07 <Lucifer_arma> it used to be RTS
08:07 <luke-jr_> it's still an option, I think
08:07 <Lucifer_arma> afaik, yes, but I like to take time to think about what I'm doing, and RTS means "twitch-strategy", a combination I don't enjoy
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> I'm not the one you guys usually wait on anyway, it's the guy who forgets to hit turn done
08:08 <luke-jr_> I like to plan my moves 10 turns in advance, so often I'm done within a minute
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> in fact, since I started using CMA and auto settler together, I'm not spending a lot of time making moves unless I'm preparing something big
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> well, often you don't know what you're going to be doing in 10 turns.  :)
08:08 <luke-jr_> I have an idea
08:09 <GodTodd> not if you get attacked :P
08:09 <spidey> ...
08:09 <spidey> are we gonna play?
08:09 <spidey> because i'ma watch a movie if not
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> afaik, yes, but I was hoping for another player at least
08:10 <spidey> TiTnAsS guru3
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> I wouldn't mind doing 4 humans and two ais, that at least gives the humans who want to war something to war with that's not human
08:11 <spidey> i won't be waring anyone unless they start taking my land
08:11 <luke-jr_> GodTodd: that's part of why I don't like war
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> well, those two little campaigns I ran last game were a lot of fun :)
08:12 <luke-jr_> I'd be interested in a game where we all have common land =p
08:12 <luke-jr_> eg, cities mixed together
08:12 <spidey> no
08:12 <GodTodd> that leads to war...
08:12 <spidey> yes
08:12 <spidey> cause the first time someone takes a spot i was working to get,i'm taking that city and all the others i can :p
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> also, the only alliance you can trust is one against a common enemy
08:13 <spidey> true
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> once the common enemy is gone, I mean, well, if I want to win the space race, the best way to do it is to cripple the other player's industrial capacity
08:13 <GodTodd> and only so long as they exist ;)
08:13 <spidey> i'd trust one with luke-jr_, because he doesn't prepare for war
08:13 <spidey> :p
08:14 <luke-jr_> =p
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> well, alliances work nicely when one person builds technology while the other one wars
08:14 <spidey> ya
08:14 <luke-jr_> do they?
08:14 <spidey> i want to get back to 485pts/turn againt
08:14 <luke-jr_> then when the war guy is done, he turns on his friend and easily wins
08:14 <spidey> that was awesome
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> but then when the warring is over and it's just those two standing, there has to be a betrayal, because the one who's prepared for war isn't ready for the space race
08:15 <spidey> unlesss there's 2 winners
08:15 <spidey> :)
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> otoh, it's possible the two could let it get settled in points at that point, because the warrior group got quite a few points
08:15 <spidey> which with a trusted person i'd be ready to do
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> I'm inclined to ignore how the computer awards the winner.  We can agree who the winner is, and that there are multiple winners, and we can play without having to have a winner, even.
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> another variation I'm interested in is one with heavy barbarians starting around 0 or 500AD
08:16 <spidey> eh
08:16 <luke-jr_> ever play SimCity Network Edition?
08:16 <luke-jr_> that was kinda fun
08:16 <arctanx> ahah that was crazy
08:16 <spidey> so i'll be fighting off AI's and barbarians?
08:16 <arctanx> more like "I build my city over here, you build your city over there, and don't spend too much money"
08:16 <GodTodd> psh...spidey thinks i can't build productive cities with my strategies.....20/20/8/20/5/14/16 :P
08:17 <spidey> that's all??
08:17 <spidey> i had one at 47
08:17 <spidey> two at 30+
08:17 <GodTodd> one
08:17 <spidey> ask luci
08:17 <spidey> for 14 cities i had i high production
08:17 <GodTodd> thing is...i haven't really got started yet ;)
08:17 <luke-jr_> one of the 30+ was the 47 =p
08:17 <spidey> no
08:18 <spidey> i had one in africa
08:18 <spidey> and one in aussie
08:18 <spidey> then i had darwin
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> the one in africa that I took for you?  ;)
08:18 <spidey> which darwin was the 47
08:18 <spidey> ya
08:18 <spidey> :D
08:18 <spidey> but like i said,the whole time i was preparing for you to betray me
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> he had depth of production, I had breadth.  I was putting out somewhere's around 10 cruise missiles each turn :)
08:18 <spidey> so i got one hell of a defense
08:19 <spidey> i had sdi's sam batterys coatal defense city walls
08:19 <spidey> 4 units per city
08:19 <spidey> mix of defense and auto attack
08:19 <spidey> tons of missile to sink your ships
08:19 <spidey> nukes
08:19 <spidey> tons of bombers and fighters
08:20 <spidey> nukes wouldn't effect me what-so-ever and missiles would be hard to kill me with
08:20 <spidey> specially if i was sinking your blockade :p
08:20 <spidey> and with my productioin rate i spitting out bombers every 5 turns and fighters and missiles every 2 turns
08:21 <luke-jr_> Darwin is lame
08:21 <spidey> darwin was my best city
08:21 <luke-jr_> no I mean the guy
08:21 <spidey> those 2 oilfeilds owned
08:21 <spidey> i only had 1ton pollution to ;d
08:21 <GodTodd> here we go again....
08:21 <GodTodd> :/
08:21 <luke-jr_> lol
08:21 <spidey> lol
08:21 <Lucifer_arma> the only thing you had that the AMericans didn't have was bombers and nukes, otherwise I'd just finished off with someone better prepared than you were
08:21 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, that's not here or there
08:22 <Lucifer_arma> who's playing and what kind of game do you want to play?
08:22 <spidey> Lucifer_arma you sure??
08:22 <luke-jr_> his only major accomplishment was to brainwash the world that atheism had the slightest chance of truth
08:22 <spidey> they had riflemen out the ass
08:22 <spidey> i had MI armor and howitzer out the ass
08:22 <GodTodd> something without a jesus freak theme
08:22 <GodTodd> heh
08:22 <spidey> plus
08:22 <spidey> i had triple defense against all air units
08:22 <Lucifer_arma> I thought it would be interesting to play the europe map with at least one AI and heavy barbarians that start really late, like 600AD or something like that
08:23 <Lucifer_arma> if I thought playing the japan map would get luke involved I'd suggest it
08:23 <spidey> 4 players so two ai's ? :p
08:23 <Lucifer_arma> in that case we'd have to go with heavy barbarians starting at 4000BC because that would be more realistic for Japan
08:23 <spidey> lol
08:24 <Lucifer_arma> and have it last all the way to 1945
08:24 <luke-jr_> =p
08:24 <Lucifer_arma> so, 1 ai if we have 3 players, 2 ais if we have 4 players
08:24 <luke-jr_> at least in modern times, Japan is way more advanced than America
08:24 <spidey> ya
08:25 <luke-jr_> in some areas, anyway
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> depends entirely on how you take your measurements
08:25 <spidey> china will own us all
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> Japan is the country that in 2005 kicked their princess out of the aristocracy for marrying a "commoner".  You call that advanced?
08:25 <luke-jr_> technologically, certainly
08:25 <luke-jr_> that sounds sane
08:26 <luke-jr_> not as a punishment, of course
08:26 <spidey> shit
08:26 <Lucifer_arma> no, of course not, but because aristocracy and commoner don't mix, and there was a lot of controversy over her doing it in the first place
08:26 <spidey> my media player crashed
08:26 <Lucifer_arma> it was a big step for women's rights that she did it!  This is progress?
08:26 <Lucifer_arma> No, that's bullshit, I say.
08:26 <Lucifer_arma> Sexism = barbaric
08:26 <luke-jr_> she's a woman
08:26 <DrJoeTron> women are not equal to men
08:27 <Lucifer_arma> well, you're just a superstitious barbarian anyway, heh
08:27 <spidey> DrJoeTron are not equal to humans
08:27 <spidey> throw him outback with the lions
08:27 <DrJoeTron> women dont have to sign up for selective service
08:27 <DrJoeTron> bt men do
08:27 <luke-jr_> they do now
08:27 <luke-jr_> actually
08:27 <Lucifer_arma> women aren't equal with each other, and men aren't equal with each other, it's silly to try to use equality in this way
08:27 <DrJoeTron> show me luke
08:27 <DrJoeTron> where are you getting this
08:27 <luke-jr_> women don't have the same roles as men do
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> the problem is that sexist men who are afraid of their small penises don't want women in combat positions
08:28 <luke-jr_> DrJoeTron: I'd link you if my browser worked
08:28 <luke-jr_> DrJoeTron: I don't recall if it's passed yet, but if not it probably will
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> those same men are the homophobes that tried to keep gays from fighting for their country
08:28 <DrJoeTron> im sure its a just a bill
08:28 <DrJoeTron> heres the deal
08:28 <luke-jr_> the problem is women who want to be men
08:28 <DrJoeTron> the only way to create equality
08:28 <DrJoeTron> unisex bathrooms!
08:29 <cusco> hohoho
08:29 <luke-jr_> gays need to be punished for their crimes
08:29 <Lucifer_arma> "superstitious barbarian", remember that :)
08:29 <Lucifer_arma> he worships japan, for crying out loud
08:30 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, are we playing a freeciv game or what?
08:30  * Lucifer_arma goes to edit his config file so there's a barbarian named Luke-Jr
08:31 <luke-jr_> maybe hang them
08:32 <spidey> cowboys hanged people
08:33 <spidey> infact
08:33 <Lucifer_arma> string 'em up by their scrotums!
08:33 <spidey> back then luke-jr_ would be shot
08:33 <Lucifer_arma> just stick a big weight on their backs and make them walk across china
08:33 <Lucifer_arma> because the Japanese FUCKING RULE!!!!
08:34 <spidey> lol
08:34 <luke-jr_> at least they're not stupid enough to try to have their kids sleep in another room
08:34 <spidey> haven't the japanese lost every major war?
08:34 <spidey> not to mention got a few atom bombs dropped on them
08:35 <GodTodd> maybe they were gay?
08:35 <GodTodd> heh
08:35 <spidey> haha
08:35 <spidey> more interested in playing with each other than fighting? :p
08:35 <spidey> maybe that's why luke-jr_ doesn't like war
08:35 <Lucifer_arma> I don't say America's Great, by the way.
08:36 <GodTodd> nah...then it was God's Will (TM)
08:36 <GodTodd> ;)
08:36 <spidey> Lucifer_arma of course not, it sucks
08:36 <spidey> but i'm stuck here till i'm 18
08:36 <luke-jr_> so why are you defending it? =p
08:36 <spidey> i'm not?
08:36 <luke-jr_> spidey: longer than that =p
08:36 <spidey> i'm making fun of you
08:36 <Lucifer_arma> I'm not, I'm attacking japanese culture and your generally barbaric attitude
08:36 <luke-jr_> spidey: at 18 you'll suddenly have enough $ to fly elsewhere and live?
08:36 <spidey> if i start working at 17
08:36 <Lucifer_arma> rather, I'm attacking the culture in america that worships japanese culture for no known reason
08:36 <spidey> which i plan to do
08:37 <spidey> wait
08:37 <spidey> luke-jr_ worships japanese but is christian??
08:37 <luke-jr_> No, Luci made that up
08:37 <Lucifer_arma> I tend to attack the little subcultures in america that try to massage their guilty consciences by worshipping some culture they thing is better than ours
08:38 <luke-jr_> Japanese culture has plenty of flaws, some even bigger than America's
08:38 <spidey> i worship places pot is legal
08:38 <luke-jr_> but in general, it's better than the US
08:38 <spidey> damned americans wanting to tax everything -_-
08:40 <Lucifer_arma> I don't believe it's in any way useful or meaningful to try to do a greater/lesser comparison with cultures
08:40 <GodTodd> so...the basis of a culture being better than the US is women are 'in their place'?
08:40 <Lucifer_arma> in fact, I do believe that that comparison is the basis for many of the wars that have gone in history
08:40 <spidey> wait
08:40 <luke-jr_> GodTodd: nah, that's not even the case in Japan usually
08:40 <spidey> luke-jr_ who said i'll have to  fly?
08:40 <spidey> when i get my license i'll have a car, that's garunteed
08:40 <luke-jr_> spidey: Mexico and Canada aren't much better
08:40 <Lucifer_arma> it's at the heart of nazi culture, which came from America.  The Americans had it to conquer the natives, they brought it from England.
08:41 <spidey> hmm
08:41 <Lucifer_arma> When Queen Elizabeth said she wanted a "strong England", she wasn't trying to make white people superior to all, she was trying to break spanish domination
08:42 <spidey> maybe we should play a world map, with only aztac and inca and, and england and spain
08:42 <spidey> :p
08:42 <spidey> france to
08:42 <GodTodd> i wonder if they've got an updated Colonization.......
08:44 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, or maybe she was retaliating against luke-jr_
08:45 <Lucifer_arma> so is it just the three of us then playing a generated map?
08:45 <spidey> with 2 AI's
08:45 <GodTodd> if i'm not too much of a sinner
08:45 <GodTodd> haha
08:46 <spidey> of course we gotta war luke-jr_
08:46 <spidey> destroy him
08:46 <spidey> then the AI's
08:46 <spidey> that's just the way it works
08:46 <Lucifer_arma> 2 or 1 ai?  I'll be happy with 1 ai if there's only three of us, the barbarians count as half an ai :)
08:46 <GodTodd> it's in the manual isn't it?
08:46 <spidey> of course
08:47 <GodTodd> 1 should be plenty
08:47 <spidey> right above "kill GodTodd"
08:47 <GodTodd> i would think
08:47 <GodTodd> go for it, baby :P
08:47 <spidey> ;D
08:47 <GodTodd> spideys skoosh nicely, you know ;)
08:47 <spidey> lol
08:48 <spidey> i'm gonna defend my cities then go for tech's
08:48 <spidey> #last --from Lucifer_arma --with www.
08:48 <armabot> spidey: [07:38:51] <Lucifer_arma> http://www.freeciv.org/
08:49 <spidey> #last --from Lucifer_arma --with www.d
08:49 <armabot> spidey: [07:17:18] <Lucifer_arma> host: www.davefancella.com
08:49 <Lucifer_arma> heh, this is a really nice setup I've got
08:49 <Lucifer_arma> hang on, let me start the server
08:49 <Lucifer_arma> I've got to save off this game, it's a really nice setup :)
08:49 <spidey> in civ2 i always owned :/
08:49 <GodTodd> me too
08:49 <spidey> sid meirers civ2
08:49 <GodTodd> over 3000 points usually
08:50 <Lucifer_arma> ok, started
08:50 <spidey> i just destroyed everyone
08:50 <spidey> lol
08:50 <GodTodd> just a sec
08:50 <GodTodd> i left one city and landed the ship :P
08:50 <GodTodd> brb
08:51 <spidey> luke-jr_ you playing?
08:56 <Lucifer_arma> ...
08:57 <luke-jr_> no
09:20 <guru3> i think i just got volunteered for yardwork today
09:22 <luke-jr_> o.O
09:36 <DrJoeTron> how do you display peoples user names
09:36 <DrJoeTron> or are you just typing them out
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09:38 <luke-jr_> wtf?
09:40 <DrJoeTron> hmm
09:40 <DrJoeTron> Spi
09:40 <DrJoeTron> dey
09:40 <DrJoeTron> smells
09:42 <DrJoeTron> alright, im off
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11:08 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_: map-preview isn't working
11:08 <wrtlprnft> on your server, that is
11:08 <wrtlprnft> /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/i686-linux/RMagick.so: libMagick.so.9: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory - /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/i686-linux/RMagick.so (LoadError) from /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/RMagick.rb:11 from /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rvg/rvg.rb:31 from /var/www/armagetron/tools/map-preview/bin/../lib/map_preview/renderer.rb:7
11:08 <wrtlprnft>  from /var/ww/armagetron/tools/map-previrew/bin/../lib/map_preview.rb:5 from /var/www/armagetron/tools/map-preview/bin/map-preview:9
11:12 -!- j0hann3s is now known as wejp
11:39 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * resources/ed/fortress/ (21 files): Resources by ed
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11:57 <Nixda863> Ist sylv da?
11:57 <Nixda863> has anybody the email or icq-number of sylv?
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13:03 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r6092 /private/nemostultae/ruby/armagetronad/ (5 files in 4 dirs): Ruby 1.8.5 is now bundled with the application. The load path is setup manually. It still does not quite work (need to install_name_tool -change the bundled SWIG generated modules)
13:16 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r6093 /private/nemostultae/ruby/armagetronad/ (5 files in 4 dirs): Undoing last change.
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13:44 <[Xpert]DarkStar> ultrasparc 333 mhz > amd64 2ghz ??????
13:44 <[Xpert]DarkStar> is tht possible?
13:45 <[Xpert]DarkStar> hmm
13:45 <[Xpert]DarkStar> never mind...
13:48 <wrtlprnft> the ultrasparc might have a bigger case size ;)
13:56 <[Xpert]DarkStar> no... the case of my ultras is smaller than the one of my amd
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14:05 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r6094 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/resource-browser/preview.php: Only display the latest version of resource (determined by last modification time)
14:06 <wrtlprnft> #ping
14:06 <armabot> pong
14:06 <wrtlprnft> #listhandlers
14:06 <armabot> wrtlprnft: commitnotify, aabetaupdate, wikiupdater, armabotupdater
14:06 <wrtlprnft> #describe aabetaupdate
14:06 <armabot> wrtlprnft: aabetaupdate: Matches on '', Performs action of type: '', On channel: , Details: 
14:06 <wrtlprnft> umm
14:06 <wrtlprnft> #help addhandler
14:06 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (addhandler <channel> <shortname> <searchstring> <actiontype> <action>) -- Adds a new handler for commit messages. Actiontype specifies what type of action to do. Currently only "echo" and "cmd" are supported.
14:07 <wrtlprnft> #help #armagetron aabetaupdate www-aabata cmd "nohup ssh wrtlprnft@beta.armagetronad.net &"
14:07 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: There is no command "#armagetron aabetaupdate wwwaabata cmd nohupsshwrtlprnft@beta.armagetronad.net&".
14:07 <wrtlprnft> ##armagetron aabetaupdate www-aabata cmd "nohup ssh wrtlprnft@beta.armagetronad.net &"
14:07 <wrtlprnft> #addhandler armagetron aabetaupdate www-aabata cmd "nohup ssh wrtlprnft@beta.armagetronad.net &"
14:08 <wrtlprnft> #addhandler #armagetron aabetaupdate www-aabata cmd "nohup ssh wrtlprnft@beta.armagetronad.net &"
14:08 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
14:08 <wrtlprnft> #runhandler aabetaupdate
14:08 <armabot> wrtlprnft: executed handler aabetaupdate successfully
14:14 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r6095 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/resource-browser/preview.php: Maybe show the most recent file, not the oldest one? ;)
14:18 <Lucifer_arma> fuck, game crashed
14:21 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r6096 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/resource-browser/preview.php: Still doesn't work...
14:22 <wrtlprnft> now it works :)
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15:29 -!- You're now known as wrtlprnft
16:09 <spidey> :D
16:19 <spidey> hmm
16:19 <spidey> i think i like this better than the raido
16:19 <spidey> radio
16:30 <mkzelda> did u get that new ashlee simpson?
16:30 <mkzelda> i know you were anticipating it
16:30 <mkzelda> lined up monday night
16:30 <mkzelda> outside the store
16:30 <mkzelda> waiting for tuesday to come
16:31 <spidey> how'd you know?
16:32 <spidey> [10:33] 68.112.91.195 is United States (City: Newark, New Jersey)
16:32 <spidey> somehow i think that's wrong
16:33 <spidey> i'm in tenessee,n0t new jersey
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16:52 <spidey> luke-jr_
17:00 <spidey> Forbidden
17:00 <spidey> You don't have permission to access /armagetron/bin/nohup1.out on this server.
17:00 <spidey> o.o
17:05 <spidey> who's Pandemonium ??
17:06  * spidey is reading server logs,and he's a asshole so i'm thinking about banning him
17:16 <spidey> o.o
17:16 <spidey> i'ma have to change the admin pass
17:17 <spidey> i have 4 admins, and 6 different logins o.o
17:20 <wrtlprnft> :s
17:20 <wrtlprnft> I only changed anything when you were there :P
17:22 <wrtlprnft> Pandemonium doesn't seem to be an asshole on my server... at least he didn't say anything offending
17:24 <spidey> oh,i forgot about you
17:24 <spidey> what's your ip?
17:25 -!- wrtlprnft [n=wrtlprnf@85.233.38.240] has left #armagetron ["see my ip?"]
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17:25 <spidey> [11:26] * wrtlprnft has left #armagetron ("see my ip?")
17:25 <spidey> lol
17:25 <wrtlprnft> bah
17:25 <wrtlprnft> IRSSI shows it
17:25 <wrtlprnft> 17:25 -!- wrtlprnft [n=wrtlprnf@85.233.38.240]
17:25 <spidey> hmm
17:26 <spidey> awx
17:26 <spidey> sec
17:26 <spidey> not you
17:27 <spidey> you only logged in on the dogfight server
17:27 <spidey> i think
17:27 <spidey> only read half the logs
17:27 <spidey> 2.76mb -_-
17:27  * wrtlprnft isn't on static IP
17:30 <spidey> does it stay in the 85 range?
17:30 <wrtlprnft> usually
17:30 <spidey> it doesn't goto 72.xxxx does it?
17:30 <wrtlprnft> dunno
17:30 <spidey> hmm
17:30 <wrtlprnft> i don't care about it :P
17:31 <spidey> lol
17:32 <wrtlprnft> wrtlprnft.ath.cx always points to it, so why should i care?
17:33  * spidey doesn't vare about his either
17:35  * spidey is watching eurotrip
18:18 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6097 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/configure.ac: Don't check for libxml if only the master server should be built.
18:19 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6098 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/Makefile.am: Don't include the resource manager for a master-only built.
18:22 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6099 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/network/nNetwork.cpp: Changed ping averager weight calculation to avoid expensive exp() call.
18:22 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6100 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/thirdparty/Makefile.am: Fixed leaving out particle system on master-only builds.
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18:36 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6101 /private/z-man/: Woo, finally something to put here.
18:37 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6102 /private/z-man/exotic_architectures/:
18:38 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6103 /private/z-man/exotic_architectures/armagetronad_build_danisahne_fritzbox/: added danisahne build files
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20:12 <luke-jr_> spidey: ...
20:14 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: wtf? ssh needs to be to armagetronad user
20:28 <spidey> luke-jr_ you'll be mad
20:28 <spidey> :)
20:29 <spidey> luke-jr_ Lucifer_arma GodTodd and me played a human-war-free game all the way through :)
20:29 <luke-jr_> ...
20:30 <spidey> you always want a war free game :p
20:31 <spidey> me luci and todd played one
20:39 <luke-jr_> lies
20:39 <luke-jr_> you had barbarians
20:39 <spidey> so
20:39 <spidey> i mean war against each other
20:40 <spidey> the AI invaded me,then i pinned him down there long enough for luci to come save me :D
20:40 <luke-jr_> AI and barbarians are still war
20:40 <spidey> not a war against each other
20:40 <spidey> besides it was a fun game
20:42 -!- Vanhayes [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu84w-156034188123.nb.aliant.net] has joined #armagetron
20:45 <spidey> ewwww
20:47 -!- DrJoeTron [i=DrJoeTr0@adsl-67-37-225-31.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #Armagetron
20:47 <DrJoeTron> i really need to delete DrWatson
20:47 <spidey> ewww
20:47 <DrJoeTron> oh man
20:47 <spidey> i haven't used that thing since 1998
20:47 <luke-jr_> ...
20:47 <DrJoeTron> its always in there
20:48 <DrJoeTron> i never did either
20:48 <DrJoeTron> but it keeps fucking up
20:48 <DrJoeTron> so i need to delete it
20:48 <DrJoeTron> but holy crap
20:48 <spidey> then delete it :p
20:48 <DrJoeTron> Mike Nelson is back :D
20:48 <DrJoeTron> the head writter for MST3k
20:50 <Vanhayes> #realchatlogs
20:50 <armabot> Vanhayes: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armalogs/
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20:51 <spidey> luke-jr_ Vanhayes wanna play freeciv?? :D
20:51 <Vanhayes> ugh
20:51 <Vanhayes> in a few minutes maybe
20:52 <Vanhayes> not running at full capacity
20:52 <Vanhayes> if that makes sense
20:52 <spidey> hangover?
20:52 <spidey> lol
20:53 <Vanhayes> mostly tired, they hangover is pretty much gone
20:53 <Vanhayes> the*
20:53 <spidey> i haven't had a hangover yet
20:54 <spidey> then again i don't drink that much -_-
20:54 <Vanhayes> you havent been doing it right then heh
20:54 <spidey> doing it right?
20:54 <spidey> you drink it....
20:54 <DrJoeTron> van is right
20:54 <DrJoeTron> you're doing it wrong!
20:54 <Vanhayes> if your not hung over you did it wrong
20:54 <spidey> on my birthday i drank a 12pack and a half ,didn't have a hangover :p
20:55 <DrJoeTron> thats beer
20:55 <Vanhayes> thats only 18 beer though
20:55 <spidey> ya a case
20:55 <Vanhayes> 30 give me a hangover
20:55 <DrJoeTron> its the hard liquor
20:55 <spidey> :o
20:55 <Vanhayes> yes
20:55 <Vanhayes> o yes
20:55 <DrJoeTron> come on spidey, arent you in kentucker?
20:55 <DrJoeTron> wheres the white lightning
20:55 <spidey> tenessee bish
20:55 <DrJoeTron> even better
20:55 <spidey> you should know
20:56 <spidey> my number's on your caller id
20:56 <spidey> :D
20:56 <DrJoeTron> haha
20:56 <DrJoeTron> freak :D
20:56  * spidey calls joe
20:56 <Vanhayes> plus that stuff you call beer is puss
20:56 <Vanhayes> only like 4%
20:56 <spidey> you ever drank moonshine?
20:57 <Vanhayes> yes
20:57 <spidey> ;x
20:57 <Vanhayes> but that isnt beer
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20:57 <spidey> i know...
20:57 <spidey> when i buy it i buy liquor
20:57 <spidey> but when it's free i don't bitch
20:57 <spidey> ;)
20:57 <Vanhayes> I usually get both
20:58 <spidey> mix light and dark liquor
20:58 <spidey> :D
20:58 <Vanhayes> or at least a clot and hard liquor
20:58 <Vanhayes> colt*
20:58 <spidey> colt??
20:58 <spidey> psh
20:58 -!- [NP]Tangent [n=hyperdev@71-211-227-105.hlrn.qwest.net] has quit [Client Quit]
20:58 <luke-jr_> (913) 674-4395
20:58 <spidey> ?
20:58 <Vanhayes> its 5 bucks and is about 2 litres of at least 8%
20:58 <spidey> who's number is that
20:59 <Vanhayes> call and find out
20:59 <spidey> sec
20:59 <spidey> wait
20:59  * DrJoeTron grabs the cell phone
20:59 <spidey> luke-jr_ who is it so i know who to ask for? :p
20:59 <Vanhayes> ask for luke
20:59 <spidey> lol
20:59 <spidey> ok sec
20:59 <spidey> ring ring
20:59 <spidey> :D
21:00 <spidey> noone answering
21:00 <spidey> wait nvm
21:00 <spidey> luke is that your girlfriend?? she sounds hot :p
21:00 <luke-jr_> that's my wife
21:00 <DrJoeTron> maybe its her gramma! :D
21:00 <DrJoeTron> oh...wife
21:01 <spidey> haha
21:01 <spidey> did she hang up on me?
21:01 <spidey> lol
21:01 <luke-jr_> no
21:01 <spidey> O.o
21:01 <luke-jr_> I said hello like 5 times
21:01 <luke-jr_> u didn't talk back
21:01 <spidey> can't hear you
21:01 <luke-jr_> so I threw the phone to my daughter
21:01 <spidey> O.O
21:01 <Vanhayes> lol
21:02 <spidey> wtf
21:02 <luke-jr_> she wants to eat it
21:02 <spidey> my phone's broke now
21:02 <luke-jr_> lol
21:02 <spidey> lemme get the other one,brb
21:03 <spidey> alright,lets try this one -_-
21:03 <spidey> pssh
21:03 <spidey> buttons aren't working right -_-
21:03 <spidey> ring ring
21:04 <spidey> awe luke sounds hawt ;D
21:04 <spidey> luke can i steal your wife? :p
21:05 <spidey> you gave me the number now talk :p
21:06 <spidey> haha luke's rude :p
21:06 <luke-jr_> u
21:06 <spidey> you
21:06 <spidey> !
21:08  * spidey plots to call joe next
21:08 <luke-jr_> let's conference it
21:08 <spidey> hmm
21:08 <spidey> skype?
21:08 <luke-jr_> no
21:08 <spidey> i don't have it :p
21:08 <luke-jr_> skype sucks
21:08 <spidey> lol
21:09 <spidey> teamspeak? :p
21:09 <DrJoeTron> yea lets not call me
21:09 <spidey> beep
21:09 <spidey> haha
21:09 <spidey> you ung yp :p
21:10 <spidey> ok
21:10 <spidey> that was my mom
21:11 <DrJoeTron> my ts server hasnt gotten much play
21:11 <DrJoeTron> lately anyways
21:11 <spidey> mine either
21:11 <spidey> well
21:11 <DrJoeTron> like past week
21:11 <spidey> my server is 100+ miles away
21:11 <spidey> my mom broke hers so i had to give her one of mine till i fix hers
21:11 <spidey> so i gave her the server
21:11 <spidey> it sucks,lol
21:12 <spidey> well
21:12 <spidey> doesn't really suck,but this one is better ;x
21:12 <Vanhayes> http://armagetronad.net/ what happened to the main page?
21:12 <DrJoeTron> time to watch metalocolypse!
21:13 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=satan@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #armagetron
21:13 <DrJoeTron> such an awesome show
21:14 <hang3r> Vanhayes: try www.armagetronad.net not armagetronad.net ;)
21:14 <luke-jr_> call back
21:14 <luke-jr_> DrJoeTron: call me
21:14 <spidey> can't
21:14 <spidey> phone's in use
21:14 <luke-jr_> ,,,
21:14 <spidey> mom called
21:14 <luke-jr_> but
21:14 <Vanhayes> hmm that was a bookmarked page though
21:14 <spidey> that's why i said, "hold on i got a beep"
21:14 <Vanhayes> must have changed it recently
21:15 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes: call me
21:15 <Vanhayes> no thats long distance
21:15 <luke-jr_> bla
21:15 <luke-jr_> use an IP phone =p
21:15 <luke-jr_> sip:guest@sip.voip.dashjr.org
21:15 <Vanhayes> buy me one
21:15 <Vanhayes> or a mic
21:15 <luke-jr_> download one
21:15 <luke-jr_> =p
21:15 <spidey> haha
21:16 <spidey> wait
21:16 <spidey> hmm
21:16 <Vanhayes> so what Ill just scream at my mcless phone?
21:16 <spidey> i COULD call from my computer
21:16 <spidey> but i'm lazy
21:17 <Vanhayes> micless*
21:17 <Vanhayes> or however its spelled
21:17 <spidey> wtf
21:17 <spidey> how does http://armagetronad.net point to one thing, but www. points to another?
21:17 <spidey> O.o
21:18 <Vanhayes> one has www. the other doesnt
21:18 <spidey> Subject : 	Re: Hi
21:18 <spidey> 	
21:18 <spidey> 	
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21:18 <spidey> Hi,
21:18 <spidey> In soldat.ini there is an entry MaxPlayers.
21:18 <spidey> luke-jr_ he's not gonna give us the source :/
21:23 <luke-jr_> tell him he is lame and we'll find a better game =p
21:24 <spidey> lol
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21:26 <DrJoeTron> blrgh
21:26 <spidey> ??
21:26 <DrJoeTron> you heard me
21:27 <spidey> nope
21:30 <DrJoeTron> man i really wanna join the SA boards
21:31 <DrJoeTron> but i dont wanna shell out 10 bucks
21:33 <DrJoeTron> spidey
21:33 <DrJoeTron> hl2
21:33 <spidey> no
21:34 <DrJoeTron> sucker
21:34 <DrJoeTron> its a free demo man
21:34 <DrJoeTron> which reminds me
21:34 <DrJoeTron> i wonder if fortress is out
21:35 <DrJoeTron> fortress forever*
21:35 <DrJoeTron> spidey have you even seen the game?
21:36 <spidey> no
21:37 <DrJoeTron> sigh*
21:37 <DrJoeTron> hold on
21:42 <spidey> shitty ass lighter
21:42 <spidey> flint was only good for about 10 strkes
21:44 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_: no.
21:45 <wrtlprnft> look at wrtlprnft's authorized_keys, 2nd lin
21:45 <wrtlprnft> e
21:45 <wrtlprnft> I don't want to give the supybot account the right to execute any command as armagetronad on your server
21:45 <luke-jr_> it never did
21:46 <luke-jr_> see ~armagetronad/.ssh/authorized_keys
21:48 <wrtlprnft> well, i don't have the matching private key
21:48 <wrtlprnft> and it should work the way it is right now
21:49 <DrJoeTron> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IletP1LoO3s this is the trailer for episode one
21:49 <DrJoeTron> which is an expansion
21:49 <DrJoeTron> this is all actual gameplay
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21:57 <DrJoeTron> spidey, 
21:57 <DrJoeTron> spidey smells
21:57 <spidey> your encryption is primative egyptian!
21:57 <DrJoeTron> watch that video!
21:57 <spidey> no
21:59  * spidey calls DrJoeTron
21:59 <spidey> deja_vu_
21:59 <DrJoeTron> dont do that
21:59 <spidey> deja_vu_ deja_vu_ deja_vu_ deja_vu_ deja_vu_
22:00 <spidey> DrJoeTron why not
22:00 <DrJoeTron> said so
22:00 <spidey> why
22:00 <DrJoeTron> said so
22:00 <spidey> why'd you say so?
22:00 <DrJoeTron> see previous reply
22:01 <spidey> well the previous reply refers back to my previous question which is irrelevant,so....why?
22:01 <DrJoeTron> shut up spidey
22:01 <spidey> :D
22:01 <DrJoeTron> as in my previous reply
22:02 <spidey> #check DrJoeTron
22:02 <spidey> #list alias
22:02 <armabot> spidey: add, armabot, armaconfig, bug, chatlog, check, digg, f, g, gcalc, goodbye, hello, insight, lock, log, log, m, man, message, mfaq, morning, night, q, realchatlogs, remove, svn, unlock, and wikipedia
22:02 <spidey> hmm
22:03 <spidey> #check spdy
22:03 <spidey> :(
22:03 <spidey> #help check
22:03 <armabot> spidey: (check <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "unix spell $*".
22:03 <spidey> #list unix
22:03 <armabot> spidey: Error: 'unix' is not a valid plugin.
22:03 <spidey> wrtlprnft load unix!
22:03 <luke-jr_> what's DrJoeTron's #?
22:03 <spidey> lol
22:04 <luke-jr_> "hi. is Dr. Joe Tron there?"
22:04 <spidey> joey
22:04 <luke-jr_> NO
22:04 <luke-jr_> Dr. Joe Tron!
22:04 <DrJoeTron> hi
22:04 <luke-jr_> so what's his #
22:04 <spidey> i actually asked for his real name though
22:04 <spidey> they where confused
22:04 <spidey> luke-jr_ not for me to give out :p
22:05 <luke-jr_> ok, what's his website?
22:05 <DrJoeTron> yeah, creep
22:05 <spidey> but i know it so i can call :D
22:05 <spidey> i have it on speed dial
22:05 <spidey> #6
22:05 <DrJoeTron> gonna whois it?
22:05 <luke-jr_> isn't it posted on the site?
22:05 <luke-jr_> that's what spidey told me
22:05 <spidey> no
22:05 <DrJoeTron> no
22:05 <spidey> lol
22:05 <DrJoeTron> why the fuck would i do it
22:05 <spidey> i never said it was posted on a site :p
22:06 <DrJoeTron> that*
22:06 <spidey> if i get a phone,i'll go through numbers like i go through ip's
22:06 <spidey> haha
22:06 <spidey> speaking of which
22:07 <spidey> sicne i don't have my server anymore i need to install the drivers for the onboard nic
22:12 <luke-jr_> I have 3 or 4 #s
22:12 <luke-jr_> Kansas City, Atchison, Omaha, and Connecticut
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22:16 <DrJoeTron> yo mom
22:16 <Your_mom_arma> hey
22:20 <wrtlprnft> spidey: can't as some commands in it crash it
22:20 <spidey> O.o
22:20 <wrtlprnft> there's google spell
22:20 <wrtlprnft> infact, IIRC you were the first one to abuse it
22:21 <spidey> abuse what?
22:21 <spidey> i didn't abuse anything, i hardly use that bot
22:22 <spidey> only thing i did was make a alias,but i change it to the unix spell one
22:22 <spidey> #alias add check "google spell $*"
22:22 <armabot> spidey: The operation succeeded.
22:22 <spidey> #check spdy
22:22 <armabot> spidey: No spelling suggestion made.  This could mean that the word you gave is spelled right; it could also mean that its spelling was too whacked out even for Google to figure out.
22:22 <wrtlprnft> #check wrtlprnft
22:22 <armabot> wrtlprnft: No spelling suggestion made.  This could mean that the word you gave is spelled right; it could also mean that its spelling was too whacked out even for Google to figure out.
22:23 <wrtlprnft> #check windws
22:23 <armabot> wrtlprnft: windows
22:23 <Your_mom_arma> #check disasteblishmenterianasim
22:23 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: No spelling suggestion made.  This could mean that the word you gave is spelled right; it could also mean that its spelling was too whacked out even for Google to figure out.
22:24 <DrJoeTron> guys quit breaking google
22:24 <DrJoeTron> bbl
22:25 <wrtlprnft> #list google
22:25 <armabot> wrtlprnft: cache, calc, fight, google, lucky, meta, phonebook, spell, and stats
22:26 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_: my problem wasn't armabot btw, but the fact that map-preview doesn't work
22:27 <Your_mom_arma> Yeah. and hud preview doesnt even exist yet
22:31 <wrtlprnft> Your_mom_arma: wanna write it?
22:31 <wrtlprnft> I might just hack a version of arma to playback a recording with a given cockpit file and make a screenshot at some location :P
22:32 <wrtlprnft> so you get the same situation in all screenshots, but different cockpits
22:32 <wrtlprnft> and then i might make the floor and the walls and cycle and everything black so you only see the cockpit :x
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22:35 <Your_mom_arma> if i wrote it it would just be a square drawn in crown on a napkin with bits if construction paper on the side for the different cockpits
22:36 <Your_mom_arma> crayon
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22:36 <wrtlprnft> o_O
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23:33 <wrtlprnft> just reading my apache logs... quite a number of tries to exploit some software I don't have. I got tons of them for mambo and awstats at least
23:33 <wrtlprnft> both some weird URIs with lot of %??
23:43 <wrtlprnft> #night
23:43 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!

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