<- Previous Log Select Different Log Next Log ->   
Log from 2006-07-21:
--- Day changed Fri Jul 21 2006
00:00 <spidey> have you tried upgrading wine?
00:00 <mkzelda> ya
00:00 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=satan@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #armagetron
00:00 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: I'm so happy to see you back!  *kiss*
00:00 <spidey> wine is still young
00:00 <mkzelda> i've got newest
00:00 <spidey> it'll get better
00:00 <mkzelda> i've been using wine as long as ive been using linux, like 8 years + now
00:00 <mkzelda> i still dont like it
00:00 <mkzelda> heh
00:00 <spidey> well
00:01 <mkzelda> there are always issues
00:01 <spidey> there's other windows interpeters
00:01 <mkzelda> ya i actually run bochs
00:01 <spidey> darwinx
00:01 <spidey> saga
00:01 <spidey> i think it's saga,probably not
00:01 <mkzelda> im fond of bochs, its just slow
00:01 <mkzelda> runs like vmware, a whole session of windows
00:02 <Lucifer_arma> wow, kde restarted, I'm amazed
00:02 <spidey> ya i forgot about bmware
00:02 <Lucifer_arma> now how do I clear firefox's stupid lock so it'll start up?
00:02 <spidey> vmware
00:02 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, wait 5 minutes?
00:02 <Compn1> ask in #firefox channel
00:02 <mkzelda> rm ~/.mozilla-firefox/.locks
00:02 <Compn1> on irc.mozilla.org
00:02 <mkzelda> or something like that
00:03 <mkzelda> i've never had that lock
00:03 <mkzelda> used to get it all the time w/ mozilla
00:03 <spidey> me either
00:03 <mkzelda> it was /tmp/locks/X.lock
00:03 <spidey> when my kde restarts
00:03 <spidey> everything reopens
00:03 <spidey> ;x
00:04 <mkzelda> i fixed my problem w/ ktorrent by reopening it
00:04 <mkzelda> it doesnt remember who its snubbed
00:04 <spidey> i don't like ktorrent
00:04 <spidey> i forwarded ports and everything
00:04 <spidey> i get >50kb/s
00:04 <Lucifer_arma> aha, there really was a firefox process I had to kill
00:04 <mkzelda> im already fond of it, aside from it snubbing ppl
00:05 <spidey> so i'll just use vnc,my windows box, and ssh
00:05 <spidey> ;x
00:05 <spidey> oh, p2p to
00:05 <mkzelda> i have a windows box i keep alive solely for azureus
00:05 <mkzelda> but its painful
00:05 <mkzelda> to use windows, and to use something that requires more ram than the machine has
00:05 <spidey> how much ram you got?
00:06 <spidey> and how much is needed
00:06 <Compn1> i use azureus on mac
00:06 <Compn1> windows = utorrent
00:06 <spidey> 'x
00:06 <spidey> ;x
00:06 <Lucifer_arma> I once started an ftp download of the latest mandriva and a torrent at the same time to see which would get here first
00:06 <mkzelda> in the windows box, i have 256 or maybe +64 to that
00:06 <Lucifer_arma> the ftp did it, all 3 disks, while the torrent was still creeping along at like 5kb/s
00:06 <mkzelda> Lucifer_arma, torrents are only as good as the amount of people seeding
00:06 <Compn1> Lucifer_arma : behind a lan or firewall? :P
00:07 <Lucifer_arma> Compn1: with ports opened, even
00:07 <mkzelda> ive gotten gentoo distros and other things where the community shares well, max out my dl at 600k/s
00:07 <mkzelda> i was in this live music bt sharing scene
00:07 <spidey> hardly
00:07 <mkzelda> where your ratio was important
00:07 <mkzelda> so everyone seeded everything
00:07 <mkzelda> was nice
00:07 <spidey> i've used torrents good people shared and  i still got shitty speeds
00:07 <mkzelda> every time u found anything you wanted, it was 600k/s
00:08 <Lucifer_arma> I've used torrent spidey shared and gotten dialup speeds
00:08 <mkzelda> BPI just shut it down :(
00:08 <spidey> lies
00:08 <spidey> i've never shared torrents :p
00:08 <spidey> well i have
00:08 <spidey> sorta
00:08 <spidey> i always get frustrated and kill the client
00:08 <Compn1> so where are people playing right now?
00:08 <Compn1> gamma? pigsty? fort?
00:08 <Compn1> crazy fort?
00:09 <spidey> #armaserver
00:09 <spidey> #armaservers
00:09 <spidey> O.o
00:09 <armabot> spidey: Bugfarm Fortress (15 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (12 players) || XzL. Clan "The Server" (12 players) || Tigers Network Speed Blast (11 players) || Norm's Place (9 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (8 players) || Pig Sty in 0.2.8.2 (Teams, Shooting) (6 players) || Swampland in 2.7.1 (testing) (6 players) || Spiral's Den (3 players) || sylvs tavern in (1 more message)
00:09 <spidey> #more
00:09 <armabot> spidey: 0.2.7.1 (3 players) || Mutiny Clan Server (2 players) || Unnamed Server (1 players) || |AST| Server (Currently Fortress) (1 players) || ~*Sp*~eed Fortress (1 players) || ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Arena {100MBit} (1 players)
00:09 <spidey> there ;x
00:09 <Compn1> ah cool
00:09 <spidey> ahahahahahahahahha
00:10 <spidey> lucifer
00:10 <spidey> remove your name from the namepicker
00:10 <spidey>  i just got kicked from bf
00:10 <spidey> ;x
00:10 <mkzelda> oh yea!!!
00:10 <mkzelda> the site is back up
00:10 <mkzelda> the one that got shutdown by the bpi
00:10 <Compn1> bpi?
00:10 <mkzelda> its the uk equiv of riaa
00:10 <Compn1> i mean
00:10 <Compn1> what site?
00:10 <mkzelda> www.themixingbowl.org
00:10 <spidey> errrr
00:11 <spidey> i'm banned from bugfarm :(
00:11 <Compn1> what for?
00:11  * spidey pokes Lucifer_arma 
00:11 <spidey> cause lucifer added his name which is protected by the server to his list
00:13 <mkzelda> haha what a jerk
00:15 <Vanhayes> heh for how long spidey?
00:17 <mkzelda> gentoo's new toolchain profiling system makes crossdev obsolete and me very happy
00:17 -!- [Xpert]DarkStar [n=pso@84-74-41-29.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit ["leaving"]
00:17 <mkzelda> i didnt do anything more than turn on distcc and my amd64 is compiling for 686's
00:17 <Lucifer_arma> my name is protected by the server?
00:18 <Lucifer_arma> sorry spidey, I didn't know my name was protected by the server
00:18 <mkzelda> yea imagine how terrible it'd be if someone else played on the server pretending they were you
00:18 <Lucifer_arma> I'll update the namepicker to be a different Lucifer
00:18 <Compn1> hehe
00:18 <Lucifer_arma> no kidding, mkzelda 
00:19 <Lucifer_arma> actually, I'd guess z-man did it when I mentioned I had a stalker, if not before then
00:19 <Lucifer_arma> maybe that's why Luzifer and adyLamespelling both changed to those spellings?
00:20 <mkzelda> ya, he's not lucifer, he's adylucifer
00:20 <mkzelda> its totally different
00:20 <Lucifer_arma> well, he at least tries to pretend he's the devil
00:21 <Lucifer_arma> you know, talking about living in hell and how hot it is and stuff
00:21  * Lucifer_arma wonders if Spain really is hotter than Texas
00:21 <mkzelda> haha
00:21 <Lucifer_arma> that kinda takes all the fun out of it, imo
00:21 <Lucifer_arma> more fun the play like you're a cannibal :)
00:21 <Lucifer_arma> or am I playing?
00:22 <mkzelda> nothing is wrong with eating human
00:22 <mkzelda> if god didnt want us to eat human, why did he make them out of meat?
00:22 <armabot> armagetronad: davidfancella * r5780 /private/Lucifer/namepicker/lucifer.txt: Changed spelling of Lucifur so innocent script users don't get banned from their favorite server. Sorry about that! I didn't know the name was protected.
00:23 <mkzelda> so how do i get into this namepicker
00:23 <Lucifer_arma> svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/private/Lucifer/namepicker
00:23 <Lucifer_arma> then read the documentation that's provided
00:23 <Lucifer_arma> then ask questions that aren't answered there :)
00:23 <mkzelda> ok
00:25 -!- [Xpert]DarkStar [n=pso@84-74-41-29.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #armagetron
00:26 <mkzelda> ok im looking at it
00:26 <mkzelda> and i read the readme, do i just make something like Lucifer.txt
00:26 <mkzelda> im sorry im more confused having read it
00:26 <Lucifer_arma> hanging curtains right now, bbiab
00:31 <mkzelda> im just making my list until i can figure out what i do with it
00:33 -!- [Xpert]DarkStar [n=pso@84-74-41-29.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit ["leaving"]
00:35 <Vanhayes> hmm why doesnt that link work for me?
00:36 <mkzelda> what link?
00:37 <mkzelda> svn?
00:37 <Vanhayes> ya
00:37 <mkzelda> dunno, worked for me
00:37 <Vanhayes> not only doesnt it work it opens it in IE
00:37 <mkzelda> heh, ew
00:37 <mkzelda> IE
00:37 <Vanhayes> yup
00:37 <Vanhayes> wow for some reason this time it did work
00:38 <mkzelda> i've made my file
00:38 <mkzelda> i made the script recognize it
00:38 <mkzelda> but i dont know howt o make the game know to use it
00:41 -!- cusco [n=Tiago@cpc2-swin6-0-0-cust997.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
00:41 <spidey> oh
00:41 <spidey> i'ma add a teamname thing
00:41 <spidey> gotta find the key for it,brb
00:42 <mkzelda> spidey, 
00:42 <mkzelda> wait
00:42 <spidey> ?
00:42 <mkzelda> how do i use this name picker
00:42 <mkzelda> i mean, ive got my list and such
00:42  * spidey points to Lucifer_arma 
00:42 <mkzelda> i've done a -a to add it
00:42 <mkzelda> :(
00:42 <mkzelda> he's hanging curtains
00:42 <spidey> lol
00:42 <spidey> well
00:42 <spidey> drop tron.py into /usr/bin
00:42 <spidey> open terminal
00:43 <spidey> tron.py
00:43 <spidey> or wait
00:43 <mkzelda> namepicker.py but i know what u mean
00:43 <spidey> it's namepicker.py
00:43 -!- Vanhayes_ [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu84w-156034178154.nb.aliant.net] has joined #armagetron
00:43 <spidey> forgot i renamed mine
00:43 <Vanhayes_> stupid connection
00:46 <mkzelda> but then what?
00:46 -!- Vanhayes_ [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu84w-156034178154.nb.aliant.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
00:46 <mkzelda> thats where im at
00:46 -!- Vanhayes_ [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu84w-156034178154.nb.aliant.net] has joined #armagetron
00:46 <mkzelda> Vanhayes, i added a lot of deviations of your name to my random nicklist
00:46 <mkzelda> ones from last night :D
00:46 <Vanhayes_> hehe
00:46 <mkzelda> Vangayes and vanganus
00:46 <mkzelda> GAY-VAN
00:46 <Lucifer_arma> namepicker.py --help ?
00:46 <mkzelda> those were too funny to ignore
00:46 <mkzelda> ya i've run that
00:46 <Lucifer_arma> is armagetronad in your path?
00:46 <mkzelda> ya
00:47 <Lucifer_arma> namepicker.py -a /path/to/file ?
00:47 <mkzelda> ya
00:47 <mkzelda> i've done that too
00:47 <Lucifer_arma> do it multiple times for multiple files...
00:47 <Lucifer_arma> ok
00:47 <mkzelda> i only hav eone
00:47 <Lucifer_arma> namepicker.py to play
00:47 <spidey> luci
00:47 <Lucifer_arma> spidey
00:47 <spidey> gimme some teamnames
00:47 <Lucifer_arma> People Eaters :)
00:47 <mkzelda> if i do that i get errors
00:48 <spidey> mm
00:48 <spidey> need more
00:48 <spidey> O.o
00:48 <spidey> mkzelda, gimme some teamnames
00:48 <mkzelda> Smegheads?
00:48 <spidey> lol
00:48 <Lucifer_arma> what errors?
00:48 <spidey> k
00:48 <mkzelda> Mighty Ducks
00:48 <mkzelda> Douchebags
00:48 <spidey> lol
00:49 <spidey> no
00:49 <mkzelda> Turd Sandwiches
00:49 <mkzelda> IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/root/.armagetronad/var/autoexec.cfg'
00:49 <mkzelda> i dont have that
00:49 <spidey> duh :p
00:49 <spidey> su - mkzelda 
00:49 <mkzelda> touch it?
00:49 <spidey> you can't run it as root
00:49 <mkzelda> oh
00:49 <Lucifer_arma> don't run it as root you dipshit
00:49 <spidey> hahaha
00:49 <mkzelda> i usually play as root, cause i used to have issues otherwise
00:49 <mkzelda> that was a long time ago tho... guess ill see
00:50 <Lucifer_arma> the script assumes a standard arma installation
00:50 <Lucifer_arma> so ~/.armagetronad/var has to exist, it won't create it
00:50 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah
00:50 <Lucifer_arma> important instruction left out of the docs
00:50 <Lucifer_arma> you have to create autoexec.cfg
00:50 <spidey> awe
00:50 <Lucifer_arma> and you have to put in it the config items you want randomized
00:50 <spidey> that's no fair!
00:50 <Lucifer_arma> usually PLAYER_1
00:51  * Lucifer_arma intends to add a "generate autoexec.cfg" flag at some point
00:51 <mkzelda> how do i give my user permission to use SDL?
00:52 -!- Lizz [i=Lizz@wxpp-p-144-138-186-243.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #armagetron
00:52 <mkzelda> Error: Error in int main(int, char**) in ../../armagetronad/src/tron/gArmagetron.cpp:645 :
00:52 <mkzelda>         Couldn't initialize SDL: Unable to open a console terminal
00:52 <Lizz> hiya guys :)
00:53 <spidey> spidey@fbi.gov[~]$ tron.py
00:53 <spidey> Traceback (most recent call last):
00:53 <spidey>   File "/usr/bin/tron.py", line 543, in ?
00:53 <spidey>     main()
00:53 <spidey>   File "/usr/bin/tron.py", line 488, in main
00:53 <spidey>     canOpen, choices = ReadChoicesFile(a['path'])
00:53 <spidey> KeyError: 'path'
00:53 <spidey> ugh
00:53 <spidey> :/
00:53 <spidey> gay
00:53 <spidey> anyways
00:53 <spidey> fixed
00:54 <spidey> the script adds a comma to the end of the choices
00:54 <spidey> and it won't start cause of that
00:54 <spidey> O.o
00:54 <spidey> nvm
00:54 <spidey> stupid user mistake
00:54 <spidey> ;D
00:55  * Lizz wanders off for a smoke
00:55 <Lucifer_arma> that's a good question mkzelda 
00:56 <spidey> weee
00:56  * spidey uploads teamname thing
00:56 <mkzelda> :/
00:56 <mkzelda> this is why i tron as root
00:57 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, http://fallin-angels.com/teamname.txt
00:58 <Lucifer_arma> fine, make autoexec.cfg in your root home directory, just don't bitch at me if you get rooted
00:58 <Lucifer_arma> and fix that problem!  Arg.
00:58 <spidey> haha
00:59 <mkzelda> well usually you do a gpasswd -a username games
00:59 <mkzelda> but i dont have a group games
00:59 -!- Vanhayes [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu84w-156034178154.nb.aliant.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
00:59 -!- Vanhayes_ is now known as Vanhayes
01:00 <mkzelda> even if i add it, its not going to have appropriate perms
01:01 <mkzelda> ok
01:01 <mkzelda> how do i remove an item from the list
01:01 <mkzelda> and how do i tell it what values i want it to use?
01:02 <mkzelda> i mean, i have the file in the list
01:02 <mkzelda> i run the program, which starts tron, but it hasnt selected a name for me cause i need to tell it to use Player_1?
01:03 <spidey> ok
01:03 <mkzelda> namepicker.py -c player_1=?
01:03 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, everything i upload will go in http://fallin-angels.com/spidey
01:03 <spidey> i just removed a shitload of junk fromt he server
01:03 <spidey> lol
01:03 <spidey> mkzelda?
01:03 <mkzelda> yea
01:04 <spidey> what you talking about?
01:04 <mkzelda> i can run the script
01:04 <mkzelda> i have namepicker.py -a mkzelda.txt
01:04 <spidey> ok?
01:04 <mkzelda> i can run namepicker.py after that, but it doesnt select a name
01:04 <spidey> post the what you put in it
01:04 <mkzelda> and based on what Lucifer_arma said, i need to do the -c to tell it which variable i want it to set
01:05 <mkzelda> post what i put in what? my mkzelda.txt?
01:05 <spidey> ya
01:05 <mkzelda> [header]
01:05 <mkzelda> name = PLAYER_1
01:05 <mkzelda> [name]
01:05 <mkzelda> Genghis Tron
01:05 <mkzelda> deltron
01:05 <mkzelda> deltron 3030
01:05 <mkzelda> JesusChrist
01:05 <mkzelda> VirginMary-SLUT
01:05 <mkzelda> AshittytacO
01:05 <mkzelda> VanGayes
01:05 <mkzelda> VanGaynus
01:06 <spidey> mm
01:06 <spidey> ok
01:06 <spidey> open /home/root/.namepicker
01:06 <spidey> with kwrite
01:07 <mkzelda> k
01:07 <spidey> paste it in here
01:07 <mkzelda> [main]
01:07 <mkzelda> choices = mkzelda.txt
01:07 <mkzelda> [mkzelda.txt]
01:07 <mkzelda> weight = 0
01:07 <mkzelda> path = mkzelda.txt
01:08 <spidey> there
01:08 <spidey> where's your mkzelda .txt at?
01:08 <mkzelda> ~
01:08 <spidey> ok
01:09 <spidey> change mkzelda.txt to ~home/root/mkzelda.txt
01:09 <spidey> minus ~
01:09 <mkzelda> done
01:09 <spidey> save it run the script again
01:09 <mkzelda> just the path = ?
01:09 <spidey> ya
01:09 <mkzelda> still doesnt fix it
01:09 <spidey> ?
01:09 <mkzelda> still doesnt use any names from the list
01:09 <spidey> open ~.armagetronad/var/autoexec.cfg
01:09 -!- flea_ [n=flea@user-0c8hpq7.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)]
01:10 <spidey> did you add  PLAYER_1 and all that to it?
01:10 <mkzelda> What content should be in it
01:10 <mkzelda> mine is blank
01:10 <spidey> ok
01:10 <spidey> add this
01:10 <spidey> PLAYER_1
01:10 <spidey> COLOR_R_1
01:10 <spidey> COLOR_G_1
01:10 <spidey> COLOR_B_1
01:10 <spidey> that's all
01:11 <mkzelda> k
01:11 <spidey> save and rerun it
01:11 <mkzelda> sweet
01:11 <mkzelda> thank you
01:11 <spidey> :p
01:12 <mkzelda> that is nice
01:12 <mkzelda> the colors dont seem to randomize
01:12 <mkzelda> they are working, but they have been the same twice in a row
01:12 <spidey> they should
01:12 <spidey> well
01:12 <mkzelda> oh, fluke
01:13 <spidey> did you add colors.txt to the config?
01:13 <mkzelda> it changed next try
01:13 <mkzelda> yea its working, just happened that random x 16 x 3
01:13 <mkzelda> got same results 2x in a row
01:13 <mkzelda> go figure
01:13 <spidey> lol
01:14 <mkzelda> awesome
01:14 <mkzelda> i put a bunch of names like "I Love Holes"
01:14 <spidey> upload them somewhere and give us a link :p
01:14 <mkzelda> ok
01:14 <mkzelda> I'll complete the list and do that
01:14 <spidey> i'm uploading mine again
01:14 <spidey> in a second
01:15 <mkzelda> an empty line wont throw off the parser will it?
01:15 <spidey> shouldn't
01:16 <mkzelda> ok
01:16 <mkzelda> I want to bunch types together
01:16 <mkzelda> like all the vangayes
01:16 <mkzelda> so someone can easily remove just the vangayes
01:16 <Vanhayes> so what exactally would I need for me to use this?
01:17 <mkzelda> python interpreter in windows?
01:17 <spidey> and alot of editing
01:17 <spidey> i could do it for you,but you'll have to figure out how to run it :p
01:17 <Compn1> an bugfarm = fun
01:18 <spidey> ok
01:18 <Vanhayes> how hard would it be to try and run it?
01:18 <spidey> mkzelda,  Lucifer_arma  http://fallin-angels.com/spidey
01:18 <spidey> there's where i'll put the things
01:18 <spidey> Vanhayes, not hard
01:19 <Vanhayes> hey you stole my Who? name
01:19 <spidey> nuh uh
01:19 <Vanhayes> been using that for months
01:19 <spidey> it was mine first
01:19 <spidey> me to :)
01:19 <Vanhayes> lol
01:19 <spidey> i used Who? and What?
01:19 <Vanhayes> heh
01:20 <Vanhayes> so spidey wanna do that for me, so I can have this too?
01:20 <spidey> erm
01:20 <spidey> yaa,what windows version you got?
01:20 <Vanhayes> XP
01:21 <mkzelda> this would be cool for aa server variables
01:22 <spidey> Vanhayes, 
01:22 <spidey> download and isntall this
01:22 <spidey> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/pywin32/pywin32-209.win32-py2.4.exe?download
01:22 <mkzelda> dont know if u guys ever played bomberman games, but the winner would get various power ups for the next match
01:22 <spidey> install it like it wants
01:22 <mkzelda> it'd be cool to give the winner an extra rubber point or w/ the new deathmatch respawn, a respawn when everyone else doesnt get one
01:23 <spidey> er
01:23 <spidey> /usr/bin always stalls when i try to open it :(
01:23 <anjori> because it's loaded with apps
01:24 <anjori> why put the script in /usr/bin? just create a bin dir in your home directory and add it to your path
01:24 <spidey> i put it in /usr/bin so all i have to do is tron.py in konsole to run it
01:25 <Vanhayes> hmm says I need python 2.4
01:25 <spidey> lol
01:25 <spidey> you're downloading python2.4 
01:25 <spidey> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/pywin32/pywin32-209.win32-py2.4.exe?download
01:25 <spidey> get that
01:25 <spidey> lol
01:25 <anjori> spidey: right, add /home/spidey/bin to your path.  then you can still do that
01:26 <Lizz> sorry to interupt.. bloddy spider wont answer his IMs :P.. but.....as a server admin.. from ur admin panel in tron can u see the private messages ppl send to each other and what they say?
01:26 <Lizz> bloody*
01:26 <spidey> yes
01:26 <Lizz> thx
01:26 <anjori> eek. that's kinda creepy
01:26 <Vanhayes> bbiab gotta mow the lawn before it gets too dark
01:27 <spidey> :/
01:27 <Lizz> its very creepy and PMs arent Pms then...
01:28 <Lizz> and i wont be using that feature again
01:29 <Lizz> very very interesting.. ty spider for the info
01:29 <spidey> lizz
01:29 <spidey> do me a favor
01:30 <spidey> tell me the exact path to autoexec.cfg
01:30 <spidey> it's like
01:30 <spidey> C:\program files\armagetron advanced\config\autoexec.cfg
01:30 <spidey> isn't it?
01:30 <Lizz> erm
01:30 <Lizz> one sec
01:33 <Lizz> yes it is
01:33 <Lizz> in the old version
01:33 <spidey> new one?
01:34 <Lizz> umm
01:34 <Lizz> i dont have it in the new one
01:35 <spidey> nvm
01:35 <spidey> i'll use the windows box to do it ;D
01:35 <spidey> gotta install python first
01:38  * anjori sucks at coming up with names
01:39 <spidey> ok
01:39 <spidey> sorry hayes
01:39 <spidey> i gave you the link for extensions
01:39 <spidey> http://www.python.org/ftp/python/2.4.3/python-2.4.3.msi
01:39 <spidey> there's the installer
01:40 -!- spidey [i=spidey@unaffiliated/mcspiddles] has left #armagetron ["Leaving"]
01:40 -!- spidey [i=spidey@unaffiliated/mcspiddles] has joined #armagetron
01:40 <spidey> bah
01:42 <Compn1> yay win for blue team
01:42  * Compn1 goes food
01:50 <Vanhayes> spidey: ok done installing both of those, whats next?
01:51 <spidey> hold on
01:54 <spidey> ok
01:54 <spidey> i'm willing to bet i fucked this up
01:54 <spidey> ;D
01:54 <spidey> running it brb
01:54 <Vanhayes> k
01:55 <spidey> Lizz, ?
01:55 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, ?
01:55 <anjori> spidey, ?
01:55 <anjori> anjori, ?
01:56 <spidey> ...
01:56  * spidey slaps anjori 
01:59 <Lizz> spider
02:03 <spidey> what?
02:05 <Lizz> shoot.. i forgot the damn question >.<
02:13 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: 
02:13 <spidey> nvm
02:13 <spidey> got it
02:13 <spidey> now i just gotta get it to read/write to the config file
02:14 <spidey> C:\Python24>python.exe C:\tron.py
02:14 <spidey> Traceback (most recent call last):
02:14 <spidey>   File "C:\tron.py", line 543, in ?
02:14 <spidey>     main()
02:14 <spidey>   File "C:\tron.py", line 501, in main
02:14 <spidey>     autoexec = GetAutoexec()
02:14 <spidey>   File "C:\tron.py", line 338, in GetAutoexec
02:14 <spidey>     fp = OpenAutoexec("r")
02:14 <spidey>   File "C:\tron.py", line 333, in OpenAutoexec
02:14 <spidey>     fp = open(os.path.expanduser('autoexec.cfg'), mode)
02:14 <spidey> IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'autoexec.cfg'
02:14 <spidey> i don't understand that!
02:14 <Lucifer_arma> it's failing to open and read autoexec.cfg
02:15 <Lucifer_arma> umm, you need to add a config option to handle this, actually
02:15 <Lucifer_arma> make it something like "armagetronvardir"
02:15 <Lucifer_arma> hve it be the absolute path to the armagetron var dir and let the user fill it in
02:16 <Lucifer_arma> then make that open line read like this:
02:16 <Lucifer_arma> fp = open(os.path.expanduser(os.path.join(YOURCONFIGVARIABLE, 'autoexec.cfg') ), mode)
02:17 <Lucifer_arma> probably should add a parameter to OpenAutoexec to take the basepath there and have the caller set it from the configurator object
02:18 <spidey> mm
02:19 <spidey> appearently it's reading the namepickerrc
02:19 <spidey> but it's not
02:19 <spidey> C:\Python24>python.exe C:\tron.py -s
02:19 <spidey> Showing config
02:19 <spidey> name: PLAYER_1
02:19 <spidey> Available choices:
02:19 <spidey>      spidey.txt
02:19 <spidey> but it's not showing it in \namepickerrc
02:19 <spidey> :/
02:21 <spidey> ahahah
02:21 <spidey> that's so fucked up
02:21 <spidey> dude
02:21 <spidey> !
02:21 <spidey> there's something weird with the python interpeter for windows
02:21 <spidey> it won't accept \autoexec.cfg
02:22 <spidey> but it'll accept \exec.cfg
02:23 <Lucifer_arma> ?
02:23 <spidey> ok
02:23 <spidey> look
02:23 <Lucifer_arma> are you putting \ in the script anywhere?  You should be using os.path to handle path separators
02:24 <spidey> C:\Python24>python.exe C:\tron.py
02:24 <spidey> CStarting armagetronad
02:24 <spidey> '\Program' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
02:24 <spidey> operable program or batch file.
02:24 <spidey> Done!
02:24 <spidey> i can fix the error
02:24 <spidey> but
02:24 <Lucifer_arma> you're putting \ in the string, don't do that!
02:24 <Lucifer_arma> use os.path.join() to do it
02:24 <spidey> er
02:24 <spidey> watch
02:24 <Lucifer_arma> os.path.join('c:', 'Program Files', 'whatever')
02:24 <spidey> !
02:25 <spidey> it changes the name
02:25 <spidey> look
02:25 <Lucifer_arma> show me the os.system() line
02:25 <spidey>   File "C:\tron.py", line 333, in OpenAutoexec
02:25 <spidey>     fp = open(os.path.expanduser('\autoexec.cfg'), mode)
02:25 <spidey> IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '\x07utoexec.cfg'
02:25 <spidey> nonono
02:25 <spidey> python
02:25 <spidey> it won't read it :/
02:25 <Lucifer_arma> of course it changes the name
02:25 <spidey> why?
02:25 <Lucifer_arma> you put \ in the string!  don't do that!
02:25 <spidey> well
02:25 <Lucifer_arma> use os.path.join() like I said
02:25 <spidey> it won't read it otherwise
02:25 <Lucifer_arma> ack
02:26 <Lucifer_arma> ok, read the python documentation on os.path, I'm tired of repeating myself :)
02:26 <spidey> lol
02:30 <spidey> ok
02:30 <spidey> only 1 error now :s
02:35  * spidey is tired and gives up ;D
02:36 <Vanhayes> heh o well
02:36 -!- Lizz [i=Lizz@wxpp-p-144-138-186-243.prem.tmns.net.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
02:36 <Vanhayes> ill just have to think up random names my self 
02:41 <spidey> lol
02:41 <spidey> or install linux :p
02:41 <Vanhayes> meh
02:42 <Vanhayes> something is fucked up in pigsty for me
02:43 <Lucifer_arma> besides the fact that you go in there and shoot people?
02:43 <spidey> haha
02:43 <Vanhayes> heh ya
02:45 <Vanhayes> wow its happening in all servers
02:45 <Vanhayes> everyone stops moving but I keep going un till I hit a wall that I cant see
02:49 <Lucifer_arma> brb
02:50 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=satan@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has quit ["Core dumped!"]
02:51 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=satan@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #armagetron
02:51 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: I'm so happy to see you back!  *kiss*
02:53 <Lucifer_arma> brb again, heh
02:53 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=satan@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
02:55 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=satan@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #armagetron
02:55 -!- madmax|pt [n=madmax@bl4-206-31.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #armagetron
03:12 -!- Lizz [i=Lizz@wxpp-p-144-138-186-243.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #armagetron
03:21 <spidey> dook
03:21 <spidey> mkzelda, 
03:32 -!- madmax|pt [n=madmax@bl4-206-31.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
04:35 <Lucifer_arma> holy shit, my big nasty build is almost finished!
04:45 <spidey> O.o
04:47 <spidey> hahah
04:47 <spidey> appearently someone likes my name
04:47 <spidey> there's a blaze clone in swampland ;x
04:53 <Lizz> aaaaaaaaanj??? u there?
04:54 <Lizz> aww buggaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
04:55 <Lucifer_arma> bbiab
04:55 <Lucifer_arma> rebooting into my newly built system :)
04:56 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=satan@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
04:58 <Lizz> spider???
05:01 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=satan@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #armagetron
05:01 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: I'm so happy to see you back!  *kiss*
05:01  * Lucifer_arma kisses armabot 
05:28  * Lucifer_arma yodels
05:28  * Lucifer_arma listens for the echo
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> #monologue
05:31 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Your current monologue is at least 4 lines long.
05:31 <anjori> Lizz: you requested my presence?
05:40 -!- nemostultae [n=nemostul@70.88.244.226] has quit ["leaving"]
05:45 -!- Compn1 [i=lksdfn@cpe-65-29-121-215.twmi.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
05:45 -!- Compn [i=lksdfn@cpe-65-29-121-215.twmi.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
05:49 <spidey> lizz?
05:50 <armabot> armagetronad: davidfancella * r5781 /private/Lucifer/namepicker/namepicker.py: Some cross-platform work
05:50 <Lucifer_arma> spidey?
05:50 <spidey> yes mam
05:50 <Lucifer_arma> if you still want to make it work in windows, update namepicker
05:51 <spidey> ?
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> the 3 functions you need to change start on line 314
05:51 <spidey> k
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> that's where it automatically detects what's there
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> there are also some new config items you can try to use :)
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> armabindir and armahome
05:53 -!- nemostultae [n=nemostul@70.88.244.226] has joined #armagetron
05:54 <spidey> return os.path.join("c:", "Program Files", "Armagetron Advanced")
05:54 <spidey> what does it want there?
05:54 <spidey> the autoexec file?
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> no, the path to the directory that armagetronad is in
05:55 <Lucifer_arma> the armagetronad.exe file specifically
05:55 <spidey> k
05:55 <spidey> that's right then
05:55 <Lucifer_arma> afaik, that's where it's installed :)
05:56 <Compn> spidey
05:56 <Compn> you playing practice tonight or what?
05:56 <spidey> ya
05:56 <Compn> its time?
05:56 <anjori> should i check out the latest version also, not needing the windows changes?
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> anjori: nah, the only thing I've done is rearranged to accomodate windows
05:57 <spidey> ya kama gimme a bit
05:57 <spidey> mkzelda, ?
05:57 <anjori> k
05:57  * Lucifer_arma is rebuilding arma so he can play a few rounds
06:05 <luke-jr_> mkzelda: there is no limit on respawns
06:07 <Lizz> aaaaaaaaanj
06:08 <Lizz> anjori ill brb but i want u for a sec when i come back ;-)
06:08 <anjori> uh-oh
06:12 <Lizz> oh :P
06:24 -!- Compn1 [i=lksdfn@cpe-65-29-121-215.twmi.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
06:24 -!- Compn [i=lksdfn@cpe-65-29-121-215.twmi.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
06:26 <spidey> Vanhayes, ?
06:26 <Vanhayes> ya?
06:26 <spidey> we need more gold in the server
06:26 <spidey> come in ;d
06:27 <Vanhayes> er i guess I might as well try it out again
06:27 <Vanhayes> spidey: whatserver?
06:27 <spidey> mine
06:28 <spidey> sws practice
06:28 <spidey> ;D
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> fuckin' lag
06:31 <spidey> sec
06:32 <spidey> hmm
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> heh, spidey, poo asked me if I was still mbc
06:32 <spidey> somethings weird
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> I might have said no
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> no, he asked me if I left mbc and I said no, that's it
06:32 <Compn1> doh
06:32 <spidey> argh
06:32 <spidey> it won't restart :/
06:32 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.com
06:33 <Vanhayes> hmm ya whatever is happening to my cliient or something is still fucked up
06:33 <Compn1> another server ?
06:33 <spidey> hmmm
06:33 <spidey> site isn't loading
06:33 <Compn1> tplay at LOL fort ;p
06:33 <spidey> phpBB : Critical Error
06:33 <spidey> Could not connect to the database
06:33 <spidey> you guys get that to?
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> I'll have a new name, heh.  since I shut down arma...
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> waiting for fallin-angels.can'tspell
06:33 <Compn1> or AST fortress
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> restart mysqld?
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> first do top
06:34 <spidey> hmm
06:34 <spidey> i can't even ssh
06:34 <spidey> O.o
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> are you getting rooted, spidey?
06:34 <spidey> not me
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> heh
06:34 <spidey> would be my webhost
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> ummmm.........
06:34 <spidey> ahahahah
06:34 <spidey> this fucker's so dead
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, it is.  :(
06:34 <spidey> i think he wants a war
06:35 <spidey> i gave someone ssh,i bet he fucked it over
06:35 <Lizz> o.O
06:35 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, 
06:35 <spidey> http://www.fallin-angels.com/spidey/
06:35 <spidey> you see that?
06:35 <nemostultae> yes
06:35 <spidey> erm
06:35 <Compn1> ya it works
06:35 <spidey> ohhhh
06:36 <spidey> hold on
06:36 <Compn1> you use a lot of nicks ;p
06:36 <spidey> i got prompted
06:36 <spidey> here we go
06:36 <spidey> holy shit
06:36 <spidey> here's a load you'll never see again
06:36 <spidey> acid@server [~]# uptime
06:36 <spidey>  05:37:09  up 27 days, 11:01,  1 user,  load average: 75.07, 97.06, 50.28
06:37 <Compn1> nah i've seen 100's ;p
06:37 <spidey> the httpd is overloading
06:37 <spidey>  9849 root      15   0  2312  424    84 S    99.9  0.0  54:55   0 httpd
06:37 <Vanhayes> wasnt it up for a couple hundred just a few days ago?
06:37 <spidey> that's another server
06:37 <Compn1> upacreek is on msn
06:37 <Vanhayes> ok
06:40 <spidey> ok
06:40 <spidey> loads are down
06:40 <spidey> O.o
06:40 <Compn1> it back up?
06:40 <spidey> is now
06:50 <spidey> bah
06:50 <spidey> it won't let me back in
06:50 <spidey> :/
06:50 <spidey> ssh anyways
06:51 -!- Compn [i=lksdfn@cpe-65-29-121-215.twmi.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
06:52 -!- Compn1 [i=lksdfn@cpe-65-29-121-215.twmi.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
06:55 <spidey> mm
06:55 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, 
06:55 <spidey> luke-jr_, 
06:58 <spidey> acid@server [~]# uptime
06:58 <spidey>  05:59:14  up 27 days, 11:23,  1 user,  load average: 72.69, 111.17, 84.13
06:58 <spidey> :/
07:03 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p5087443F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron
07:04 <spidey> looks like it's nothing i can fix
07:04 <spidey> m_$4@S*-t3R
07:04 <spidey> O.o
07:05 <spidey> you gotta be shitting me
07:05 <spidey> spidey@fbi.gov[~]$ ssh fallin-angels.com
07:05 <spidey> spidey@fallin-angels.com's password:
07:05 <spidey> Permission denied, please try again.
07:05 <spidey> spidey@fallin-angels.com's password:
07:05 <spidey> Permission denied, please try again.
07:05 <spidey> !
07:06 <spidey> i'm fixing to have me a 1gbit server in sweeden if this guy doesn't fuck off
07:07 <spidey> m_$4@S*-t3R
07:07 <spidey> :|
07:20 -!- Compn1 [i=lksdfn@cpe-65-29-121-215.twmi.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
07:20 -!- Compn [i=lksdfn@cpe-65-29-121-215.twmi.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
07:22 <spidey> ok
07:22 <spidey> i got ssh back
07:22 <spidey> ;D
07:22  * spidey is so gonna get introuble by his host
07:27 -!- Compn1 [i=lksdfn@cpe-65-29-121-215.twmi.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
07:27 -!- Compn1 [i=lksdfn@cpe-65-29-121-215.twmi.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
07:37 <Lizz> spider?
07:39 <Lizz> spider: if u see lodas in IM plz ask her to check city PM
07:39 <spidey> ?
07:39 <Lizz> u have lodas in IM yes?
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> damn, where'd your mom go?
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> anybody know if your mom has a sourceforge account already?
07:41 <luke-jr_> spidey: 
07:41 <spidey> Lizz, 
07:41 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, 
07:41 <spidey> er
07:41 <spidey> luke-jr_, 
07:41 <luke-jr_> spidey: u were gonna PM me
07:41 <spidey> oh ya
07:41 <spidey> you get that?
07:41 <luke-jr_> ya
07:41 <luke-jr_> what's that webhost doin to you?
07:42 <spidey> being mean ;D
07:42 <luke-jr_> how?
07:42 <spidey> for now anyways
07:42 <spidey> 1
07:42 <luke-jr_> .
07:42 <spidey> httpd and mysql are hogging the cpu cycle
07:42 <spidey> 2 disabled shell, i have that back now
07:42 <luke-jr_> no
07:42 <luke-jr_> it's 99.4% idl
07:42 <luke-jr_> e
07:42 <spidey> ?
07:42 <spidey> ..
07:43 <luke-jr_> CPU states:   0.1% user   0.3% system   0.0% nice   0.0% iowait  99.4% idle
07:43 <spidey> ???
07:43 <spidey> i'm talking about fallin-angels
07:43 <luke-jr_> me too
07:43 <spidey> wtf
07:43 <spidey> these are the last loads i got off it
07:43 <Lucifer_arma> try again, it's responsive now
07:43 <luke-jr_> that's live
07:44 <luke-jr_>  06:44:37  up 27 days, 12:08,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 1.50, 28.44
07:44 <spidey> <spidey> acid@server [~]# uptime
07:44 <spidey> <spidey>  05:59:14  up 27 days, 11:23,  1 user,  load average: 72.69, 111.17, 84.13
07:44 <spidey> that's the last ones i got :/
07:44 <luke-jr_>  06:44:53  up 27 days, 12:09,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 1.42, 27.98
07:44 <spidey> mm
07:44 <Lucifer_arma> that's an awesome server if it can go up to 111
07:44 <luke-jr_> hehe
07:44 <spidey> lol
07:44 <luke-jr_> maybe it's per CPU?
07:44 <luke-jr_> so 111 would be 111 of 200?
07:44 <spidey> dunno
07:44 <Lucifer_arma> maybe it's a Marshall?
07:45 <luke-jr_> but they only have 1 CPU...
07:45 <spidey> maybe it's a marshin
07:45 <luke-jr_> a 1 GHz duron
07:45 <spidey> dunno
07:45 <spidey> those are the loads i got
07:45 <Lucifer_arma> oh come on, even I know that Spinal Tap joke and I haven't even seen the movie...
07:45 <luke-jr_> spidey: check again =p
07:45 <spidey> i did
07:45 <luke-jr_>  06:46:25  up 27 days, 12:10,  2 users,  load average: 0.14, 1.13, 25.42
07:45 <luke-jr_> that's right now
07:45 <spidey> yea
07:46 <spidey> answer the pm!
07:46 <luke-jr_> I did
07:46 <luke-jr_> i said pong
07:46 <luke-jr_> and ...
07:46 <spidey> i gotta email ground pig,he's gonna send me the source
07:47 <spidey> ident,duh
07:47 <spidey> :p
07:47 <luke-jr_> um
07:47 <luke-jr_> pig's src is on the forum
07:47 <spidey> it is? O.o
07:47 <luke-jr_> ya
07:47 <spidey> where?
07:47 <luke-jr_> you want 0.2.8.2-pig ?
07:47 <luke-jr_> in the sty thread
07:47 <spidey> ya
07:47 <luke-jr_> ok
07:48 <spidey> when fios gets out here i might start hosting tron servers O.o
07:49 <luke-jr_> fios?
07:49 <spidey> it'll be 15mbps down and 2mbps up
07:49 <luke-jr_> that's bandwidth
07:49 <spidey> fiber optic?
07:49 <luke-jr_> how about latency?
07:49 <luke-jr_> cable is fibre optics
07:49 <spidey> well
07:49 <spidey> when verizon starts servicing out here
07:50 <luke-jr_> you assume latency will improve =p
07:50 <spidey> i didn't say that
07:50 <spidey> i just said i'd host them
07:50 <spidey> lol
07:50 <luke-jr_> =p
07:50 <luke-jr_> btw in case I didn't tell u
07:50 <luke-jr_> https://lightfoot.dashjr.org/aa-admin/
07:51 <spidey> luke
07:51 <spidey> identify
07:51 <spidey> so you can send pm's
07:51 -!- nemostultae [n=nemostul@70.88.244.226] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
07:53 -!- deja_vu_ [n=deja_vu@p57A1BECD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron
07:54 <luke-jr_> spidey: does it work now
07:54 <luke-jr_> ?
07:54 <spidey> ay
07:54 <spidey> ya
08:06 <spidey> mmm
08:06 <spidey> i think i went wrong somewhere
08:07 <spidey> http://www.fallin-angels.com/spidey/index.php/
08:10 -!- deja_vu [n=deja_vu@p57A1B8DD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
08:19 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5782 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tron/ (gCycle.cpp gCycleMovement.cpp): Fixed some clientside collision prediction quirks.
08:37 <Lizz> well.. thats a boring link :P
08:39 <anjori> why does pigsty keep disappearing? :-/
08:41 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
08:41 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
08:45 <Lizz> anj
08:46 <Lucifer_arma> WHY THE FUCK DOES EMERGE BEEP!?!?!?!?
08:47 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p5087443F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
08:51 <Lizz> coz it wants to be noticed?? o.O
08:54 <Lucifer_arma> well, it was pretty annoying.  I was jamming on my bass with hydrogen playing some drums, then decided to emerge my icecast client, and the fucking thin beeped at me :(
08:54 <Lizz> it wanted ur attention.. u should be flattered to be "beeped" at in such a way *hides from loooceees wrath*
08:55 <spidey> Lizz, 
08:55 <spidey> come to us fortress ;x
08:55 <Lizz> i will :D
08:56 <Lizz> just playing in PM with anj one sec
08:56 <spidey> tell him to come to
08:56 <Lizz> kk
09:01 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=satan@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
09:03 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=satan@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #armagetron
09:03 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: I'm so happy to see you back!  *kiss*
09:04 -!- Vanhayes [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu84w-156034178154.nb.aliant.net] has quit ["So thats what that button does..."]
09:04 -!- Grrrrrr [i=Lizz@wxpp-p-144-138-186-199.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #armagetron
09:04 <Grrrrrr> stupid bloody puter >.<
09:04 -!- Lizz [i=Lizz@wxpp-p-144-138-186-243.prem.tmns.net.au] has quit [Nick collision from services.]
09:05 -!- Grrrrrr is now known as Lizz
09:05 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=satan@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
09:06 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=satan@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #armagetron
09:09 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=satan@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
09:10 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=satan@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #armagetron
09:11 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=satan@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
09:20 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=satan@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #armagetron
09:20 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: I'm so happy to see you back!  *kiss*
09:24 <Lucifer_arma> weird, if I run startxfce4 as root it starts fine.  If I login from kdm as a normal user, no go.
09:29 -!- GodTodd [n=GodTodd@c-71-199-204-144.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
09:29 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=satan@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
09:34 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=satan@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #armagetron
09:34 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: I'm so happy to see you back!  *kiss*
09:40 -!- philippeqc [n=philippe@c83-250-130-90.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #armagetron
09:40 -!- philippeqc_ [n=philippe@c83-250-130-90.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #armagetron
09:43 <anjori> http://www.nothingisreal.com/girlfriend/
09:50 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.nothingisreal.com/girlfriend/mail01
09:51 <anjori> heh. that was a fun one, too
09:52 <Lucifer_arma> bugfarm is full with only 5 players?!?
09:53 <anjori> hmm. i'm not even seeing it on my list
09:54 -!- philippeqc_ [n=philippe@c83-250-130-90.bredband.comhem.se] has quit ["Leaving"]
09:54 <philippeqc> morning
09:54 <Lucifer_arma> morning
09:56 <spidey> lol?
09:57 <spidey> anjori that seems like something you'd write
09:58 <anjori> huh?
09:58 <Lucifer_arma> man, my bots are awesome
09:59 <wrtlprnft> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=75691#75691
09:59 <wrtlprnft> i like that avatar and user rank
10:00 <Lucifer_arma> round winner?
10:00 <wrtlprnft> ?
10:02 <Lucifer_arma> you looking at vertigo or sabarai?
10:02 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/sabarai.png
10:02 <wrtlprnft> I'm loking at the post I linked to
10:03 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm seeing two posts in my window, and the top of the window is halfway through tank's post
10:03 <wrtlprnft> anyways, nice idea guru3
10:04 <guru3> :)
10:04 <spidey> wrtl?
10:07 <wrtlprnft> spidey?
10:07  * wrtlprnft loves if spidey wakes wrtlprnft without specifying a reason
10:08 <spidey> you was alseep? O.o
10:09 <Lucifer_arma> I got killed by Buffy!
10:09  * wrtlprnft is half- asleep
10:11  * Lizz pokes holes in spiders web coz she can
10:12 <wrtlprnft> doesn't a web have holes already by definition?
10:13 <Lizz> not ones made by fingers it dosent
10:13  * wrtlprnft wouldn't touch spidey's web with a long stick
10:14 <Lizz> use a short one then :P
10:14 <wrtlprnft> even worse
10:14 <Lizz> meh
10:14  * philippeqc observe that Lizz is into throwing insults at people
10:14 <philippeqc> spidey, meet Lizz . Lizz, meet spidey 
10:15 <wrtlprnft> they know each other already
10:15  * Lizz agrees with phils assessment
10:15 <Lizz> lmao
10:15 <philippeqc> wrtlprnft: yes but probably they didnt notice each other THAT way before
10:15 <Lizz> intimately lol ......... hes my son heh
10:16 <philippeqc> ok not THAT way, just the "x thows insult at y" way
10:16 <philippeqc> ;)
10:16 <Lizz> heh
10:16 <philippeqc> wow, that is unusual
10:16 <wrtlprnft> would a hungry lizzard eat a spider?
10:16 <Lizz> yes
10:16 <wrtlprnft> very good
10:16 <Lizz> lol
10:16 <Lizz> but not gonna coz i like him.. he amuses me lol
10:16  * wrtlprnft has to take care that Lizz gets very hungry some time
10:17 <Lizz> lol
10:17 <philippeqc> wrtlprnft: living in a place infested with hungry lizard doesn't sound like a good solution to remove spiders from your surrounding.... Seeing them climb up the wall all the time.... ush
10:18 <wrtlprnft> well, I'll feed her again once one spider is gone
10:18 <Lizz> :)
10:18 <Lucifer_arma> hey, y'all come in here
10:18 <wrtlprnft> ?
10:18 <Lizz> where?
10:18 <wrtlprnft> #armaservers
10:18 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
10:19 <wrtlprnft> gah
10:19 <philippeqc> wrtlprnft: you realise that spidey  is not officially being mobbed online (indirectly) by his mom?
10:19 <wrtlprnft> kinda
10:19 <wrtlprnft> !~
10:19 <wrtlprnft> err
10:19 <Lizz> o.O
10:20  * philippeqc notes on my list "Never, EVER cross wrtlprnft!"
10:24 <wrtlprnft> ?
10:24 <wrtlprnft> !~ = shell bang ;)
10:25 <anjori> ?
10:25 <philippeqc> I dont want to be mobbed online by my mom, nor similar action. Better not piss you off.
10:34 -!- [Xpert]DarkStar [n=pso@84-74-41-29.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #armagetron
10:35 <spidey> lol
11:09 <Lizz> spider?
11:09 <wrtlprnft> spidey�
11:10 <wrtlprnft> ?
11:12 <Lizz> bbl
11:13 -!- Lizz [i=Lizz@wxpp-p-144-138-186-199.prem.tmns.net.au] has left #armagetron []
11:36 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/ed/catfight/sumo_spiral-0.0.3.aamap.xml: Resource by ed
11:36 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/ed/catfight/fortress_purple-0.0.2.aamap.xml: Resource by ed
11:36 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/ed/catfight/fortress_yellow-0.0.2.aamap.xml: Resource by ed
11:45 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/ed/catfight/splat-0.0.3.aamap.xml: Resource by ed
11:45 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/ed/catfight/sumo_spiral-0.0.4.aamap.xml: Resource by ed
12:48 <spidey> #night
12:48 <armabot> Good night spidey!
13:02 -!- madmax|pt [n=madmax@bl4-245-100.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #armagetron
13:03 <madmax|pt> hello
13:09 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/ed/catfight/fourplay-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by ed
13:32 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/ed/catfight/splat-0.0.4.aamap.xml: Resource by ed
13:32 -!- madmax|pt [n=madmax@bl4-245-100.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"]
13:43 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #morning
13:43 <armabot> Good Morning [Xpert]DarkStar [f]
13:49 <[Xpert]DarkStar> which libraries do i need to build a dedicated server?
13:57 -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: deja_vu_
13:57 -!- deja_vu [n=deja_vu@p57A1BECD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron
14:01 <spidey> :p phili
14:01 <philippeqc> darkstar, when you do configure, check the error messages
14:02 <philippeqc> I'd say SDL family to start
14:02 -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: anjori, wejp, Compn1, [Xpert]DarkStar
14:03 -!- [Xpert]DarkStar [n=darkstar@84-74-41-29.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #armagetron
14:03 <philippeqc> [Xpert]DarkStar: what does configure say?
14:03 <[Xpert]DarkStar> well
14:03 <[Xpert]DarkStar> it it stopped at xml
14:03 <philippeqc> libxml
14:04 <[Xpert]DarkStar> but currently also compiling apache
14:04 <[Xpert]DarkStar> gonna wait until that one has finished
14:04 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Compn1
14:04 <philippeqc> install libxml, run configure just to see what other dependencies prob you have
14:04 <[Xpert]DarkStar> gonna do after apache
14:04 -!- anjori [n=anonymou@24.86.127.120] has joined #armagetron
14:04 <philippeqc> configure wont conflict with your compiling
14:05 <[Xpert]DarkStar> but compiling 2 things at the same time would make it all slow
14:05 <philippeqc> you have lots of time now as you wait for your compilation to actually go and look up all the missing libraries
14:05 <philippeqc> configure IS NOT compiling
14:05 <[Xpert]DarkStar> guess what...
14:05 <[Xpert]DarkStar> i KNOW that
14:06 <philippeqc> ;)
14:06 <[Xpert]DarkStar> but COMPILING libxml IS compiling
14:06  * [Xpert]DarkStar has gentoo
14:06 -!- [Xpert]D1rkStar [n=pso@84-74-41-29.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #armagetron
14:06 <[Xpert]DarkStar> arg
14:06 -!- wejp [n=j0hannes@i577B8770.versanet.de] has joined #armagetron
14:06 -!- [Xpert]D1rkStar [n=pso@84-74-41-29.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Client Quit]
14:06 <philippeqc> o no a pirate
14:07 <[Xpert]DarkStar> right...
14:07 <[Xpert]DarkStar> compiling libxml now
14:08 <philippeqc> good
14:08 <[Xpert]DarkStar> thank god i won't have to do this all manually ><
14:08 <philippeqc> I couldnt have know that you had a source distro
14:08 -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: guru3
14:08 <[Xpert]DarkStar> you could have
14:08 <philippeqc> no
14:08 <[Xpert]DarkStar> if you paid more attention ;)
14:08 <[Xpert]DarkStar> i mentioned it many times in the last few weeks i think
14:08 <[Xpert]DarkStar> and i keep mentioning it all the time anywaay
14:08 <[Xpert]DarkStar> -a
14:08 <philippeqc> and how often was I online in the last few weeks?
14:09 <[Xpert]DarkStar> err well
14:09 <philippeqc> pop quiz boy: What distro do I use?
14:09 <philippeqc> ;)
14:09 <[Xpert]DarkStar> slack
14:09 <[Xpert]DarkStar> or debian
14:09 <philippeqc> Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
14:09 <philippeqc> that'll be a hand and your left nut
14:09 <[Xpert]DarkStar> 0o
14:10 <[Xpert]DarkStar> no way
14:10 <philippeqc> wanna trade your hand for your right nut?
14:10 <[Xpert]DarkStar> no
14:10 <[Xpert]DarkStar> wanna keep them all
14:10 <philippeqc> ;)
14:11 <[Xpert]DarkStar> hmm
14:11 <[Xpert]DarkStar> i could of course say gentoo...
14:11 -!- Netsplit over, joins: guru3
14:11 <[Xpert]DarkStar> but i really don't know
14:11 <philippeqc> Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
14:11 <[Xpert]DarkStar> wb guru3 
14:12 <guru3> go figure
14:12 <[Xpert]DarkStar> philippeqc: so what distro are you using?
14:12 <philippeqc> Mandriva
14:13 <[Xpert]DarkStar> heh
14:13 <[Xpert]DarkStar> i used to run mandrake in the old days when i was still a newb
14:13 <philippeqc> because it just works
14:13 <philippeqc> i used gentoo last year till i realised i was spending more time updating it and fixing it than you know..... using it.
14:14 <[Xpert]DarkStar> i switched to gentoo mainly because of my amd64
14:14 <philippeqc> amd64 here too
14:14 <philippeqc> the only pain is all that is "browser plugin". and that is not a big loss anyway
14:14 <[Xpert]DarkStar> indeed
14:15 <[Xpert]DarkStar> also win32codecs wont work
14:15 <[Xpert]DarkStar> but who cares
14:15 <philippeqc> it does for me (i think)
14:15 <[Xpert]DarkStar> it depends...
14:16 <[Xpert]DarkStar> you'd have to use a 32 bit media player
14:16 <[Xpert]DarkStar> or win64codecs :P
14:17 <philippeqc> win32-codecs here
14:17 <[Xpert]DarkStar> and do they really work?
14:18 <[Xpert]DarkStar> i can play many wmv without them
14:18 <philippeqc> I've watched a few files, and not all of them could have been pure mpeg2 files. 
14:18 <philippeqc> must have been a few divx and other codec
14:18 <[Xpert]DarkStar> mm k
14:18 <[Xpert]DarkStar> whatever
14:18 <[Xpert]DarkStar> it apperantly works
14:19 <philippeqc> the way I see it, debating distros is about as usefull as arguing about one's favorite color.
14:19 <[Xpert]DarkStar> possible
14:20 <[Xpert]DarkStar> but it's truly useful
14:20 <[Xpert]DarkStar> to debate about windows vs linux
14:21 <philippeqc> he, something that actually will lead to something
14:21 <[Xpert]DarkStar> yes
14:22 <philippeqc> I have one major cyclic dependency problem
14:22 <philippeqc> A -> B -> C -> A
14:22 <[Xpert]DarkStar> 0o
14:23 <philippeqc> except re-reading over and over the chapter 6.5 of C++ annocations, what are the usual ways to break this up?
14:24 <[Xpert]DarkStar> bwaaahh... i don't know any other language than bash ><
14:26 <philippeqc> I'm getting relatively annoyed by this new version of zones... I'll be really glad when its over
14:26 <[Xpert]DarkStar> heh
14:28 <philippeqc> heh what?
14:28 <[Xpert]DarkStar> nothing i guess
14:29  * wrtlprnft wonders if z-man will release a book, "the 1001 types of lag"
14:31  * [Xpert]DarkStar is trying to play minesweeper
15:21 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p5087443F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron
15:28 <wrtlprnft> #last --from wrtlprnft 
15:28 <armabot> wrtlprnft: [07:30:39] * wrtlprnft wonders if z-man will release a book, "the 1001 types of lag"
15:29 -!- madmax|pt [n=madmax@bl4-216-22.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #armagetron
15:32 -!- [Xpert]DarkStar [n=darkstar@84-74-41-29.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit ["leaving"]
15:35 -!- Brooky [n=Brooky@80.73.222.225] has joined #armagetron
15:35 -!- [Xpert]DarkStar [n=darkstar@84-74-41-29.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #armagetron
15:38 <philippeqc> well, it seems my changes arent important enough for CIA
15:38 <Brooky> lol
15:38 <Brooky> what made you say that?
15:39 -!- Brooky [n=Brooky@80.73.222.225] has quit [Client Quit]
15:39 <philippeqc> cia reports our changes to the code, I just sent some, and normally it would say something here in IRC about it.
15:40 <armabot> armagetronad: philippeqc * r5783 /private/philippeqc/armagetronad/ (15 files in 5 dirs): getting closer to having monitor support effectgroups
15:40 <philippeqc> well well, just when I was too impatient, guess who gets bitten in the ass.
15:42 <[Xpert]DarkStar> could someone try custom connect to 84.74.41.29?
15:43 <[Xpert]DarkStar> port 4534
15:43 <[Xpert]DarkStar> because finally i got both a more or less decent connection and a more or less decent server machine
15:44 <philippeqc> Server does not answer
15:45 <philippeqc> open your firewall
15:45  * [Xpert]DarkStar throws his damn router to the wall
15:45 <philippeqc> d-link?
15:45 <philippeqc> have you enabled port forwarding
16:05 -!- [Xpert]DarkStar [n=darkstar@84-74-41-29.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
16:19 -!- GodTodd [n=GodTodd@c-71-199-204-144.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #armagetron
16:25 -!- nemostultae [n=nemostul@70.88.244.226] has joined #armagetron
16:26 -!- nemostultae [n=nemostul@70.88.244.226] has quit [Client Quit]
16:26 <z-man> wrtlprnft: once I got at least 200 types collected, perhaps :)
17:03 <guru3> DAMNIT
17:03 <guru3> SPAM PROTECTION PENALIZES THE FAST TYPERS
17:12 -!- [Xpert]DarkStar [n=darkstar@84-74-41-29.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #armagetron
17:12 <[Xpert]DarkStar> ah
17:12 <[Xpert]DarkStar> finally i could connect again
17:42 -!- nemostultae [n=nemostul@70.88.244.226] has joined #armagetron
17:47 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5784 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tron/gCycle.cpp: Fixed another instance of local phasing, this time during extrapolation of your own cycle.
17:48 -!- madmax|pt [n=madmax@bl4-216-22.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit ["Leaving"]
17:49 -!- flea [n=flea@user-0c8hpq7.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #armagetron
18:20 -!- Compn1 is now known as Commn
18:33 -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: GodTodd, mkzelda, anjori, philippeqc, armabot, Lucifer_arma, spidey, z-man, guru3
18:34 -!- z-man [n=manuel@80.135.68.63] has joined #armagetron
18:34 -!- philippeqc [n=philippe@83.250.130.90] has joined #armagetron
18:34 -!- Netsplit over, joins: anjori
18:34 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=satan@63.246.177.233] has joined #armagetron
18:34 -!- GodTodd [n=GodTodd@71.199.204.144] has joined #armagetron
18:34 -!- armabot [n=armabot@63.246.177.233] has joined #armagetron
18:34 -!- Netsplit over, joins: mkzelda
18:35 -!- spidey [i=spidey@BABY.YOU.WANT.SOME.SEX0R.org] has joined #armagetron
18:36 <wrtlprnft> 18:33 -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: GodTodd, mkzelda, anjori, philippeqc, armabot, Lucifer_arma, spidey, z-man, guru3
18:36 <wrtlprnft> 18:34 -!- Netsplit over, joins: anjori
18:36 <wrtlprnft> i have the feeling some got lost there ;)
18:37 -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: mkzelda, GodTodd, anjori, nemostultae, philippeqc, armabot, Lucifer_arma, wejp, flea, spidey,  (+6 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them)
18:38 -!- Compn [i=lksdfn@65.29.121.215] has joined #armagetron
18:39 -!- [NP]Tangent [n=hyperdev@71.211.215.124] has joined #armagetron
18:39 -!- wejp [n=j0hannes@87.123.135.112] has joined #armagetron
18:39 -!- mkzelda [n=mkzelda@cpe-071-070-204-248.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
18:40 -!- Netsplit over, joins: z-man
18:40 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Lucifer_arma
18:40 -!- Netsplit over, joins: philippeqc
18:41 -!- Netsplit over, joins: spidey, SuPeRTaRD
18:41 -!- armabot [n=armabot@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #armagetron
18:42 -!- anjori [n=anonymou@S0106001150573139.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #armagetron
18:42 -!- Netsplit over, joins: flea, nemostultae
18:43 -!- Netsplit over, joins: [Xpert]DarkStar
18:44 <[Xpert]DarkStar> freenode is evil
18:47 -!- deja_vu [n=deja_vu@p57A1BECD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron
18:49 <z-man> Is anyone of you experiencing weird timeouts lately with clients with the multithreaded network enabled?
18:50 <z-man> I had two today, and since the multithreading is disabled when recording, I don't have one.
18:50 <z-man> Of course, I don't know whether it's related to the multithreading.
18:51 <wrtlprnft> not me
18:54 <philippeqc> z-man, I have a funny situation here.
18:54 <z-man> haha
18:54 <z-man> oh, not that kind of funny?
18:54 <philippeqc> my monitor (this is what used to be the variable for the status of a fortress) is a eGameObject
18:55 -!- flea [n=flea@user-0c8hpq7.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
18:55 <z-man> do go on
18:55 <philippeqc> The thing is, I store it in a std::map (global object) in the parser so I can associate it from the map (file descripting the arena, from now on carte)
18:56 <philippeqc> as soon as the parser start, I cleared it, and on the second pass, it always crashed.
18:56 <philippeqc> now I realised that being a eGameObject, it is destroyed with all other game object BEFORE the parser start again.
18:57 <z-man> Is it an eNetGameObject, too?
18:57 <philippeqc> I need to be called for the gametics
18:57 <philippeqc> nope, just a eGameObject
18:57 <philippeqc> Would it help?
18:57 <z-man> There is an nObserverPointer smart pointer class that gets automatically set to NULL if the object is deleted
18:58 <z-man> It only works for nNetObjects, though.
18:58 <philippeqc> in the map (and elsewhere) I use a shared_ptr to it for referencing
18:58 <philippeqc> I just forgot about the game core aspect in my design
18:59 <z-man> Unfortunately, shared_ptrs don't work if someone goes around and deletes stuff manually
18:59 <philippeqc> yes, I've observed that ;)
19:01 <luke-jr_> Can we have a paranoid camera? :)
19:01 <philippeqc> I could make a holder (eGameObject) , and pass that to the core, and it would hold only a shared_ptr to the real monitor, and pass the game tics, but that seems overly complex
19:01 <luke-jr_> one that keeps close enemies within view ;)
19:01 <luke-jr_> eg, shift the camera to the left so you can see the enemy to the right
19:01 <z-man> You could try to overload RemoveFromGame(), that's what gets called to delete an object.
19:01 <philippeqc> chaning the core and introducing a new category is even worse
19:02 <philippeqc> o YEAH
19:02 <z-man> luke-jr_: that would be cool, but how often will it pick the wrong target?
19:03 <philippeqc> wait, removeFromGame removes from a lots of list, but the object must destructed after that call
19:03 <z-man> No, it must not be destructed. It just has to be arranged that it gets destructed at some later time.
19:03 -!- guru3 [n=guru3@2002:51e7:e65f:1:0:0:0:1] has joined #armagetron
19:04 <z-man> RemoveFromGame is the last thing the engine does with an object, after that, it's free to do what it wants.
19:04 <z-man> Of course, it should disappear some time later so there is no memory leak, but if you do that later in gParser, that's fine.
19:04  * philippeqc slaps his forhead..... now that I noticed the big fat second line of REmoveFromGame : "delete this;"
19:04 <luke-jr_> z-man: pick all nearby targets
19:05 <luke-jr_> if you're surrounded, that means overhead viewing
19:05 <philippeqc> luke-jr_: what is "nearby"
19:05 <luke-jr_> philippeqc: a configurable number of units =p
19:05 <z-man> luke-jr_: that would be wrong if the enemy is on the other side of an unpetetrable obstacle
19:05 <luke-jr_> and possibly based on lag-o-meter
19:05 <luke-jr_> z-man: true
19:05 <luke-jr_> maybe
19:05 <luke-jr_> unless the wall ends in a few units
19:06 <philippeqc> is it affected by your speed? the speed of the enemies? Should you see your teammates, they sure have a tendency of jumping on you at the least favorable time.
19:06 <luke-jr_> then I'd want the wall chopped down and such ;)
19:06 <luke-jr_> philippeqc: closer teammates
19:06 <luke-jr_> plenty of options
19:06  * philippeqc goes on to override RemoveFromGame
19:07 <z-man> I would not object to having such a camera, but can't build one in the foreseeable future.
19:08 <philippeqc> I think luke-jr_  is the best qualified to fix it. He seems to have a good plan.
19:08  * wrtlprnft agrees
19:10 <philippeqc> z-man, I "found" a new camera. When you disable all the cameras, and then switch cameras, well, that one. A bit higher than smart cam, with good inertia. But I cant seem to find the "set this camera as the first one" item for it.
19:11 <z-man> philippeqc: that's probably the "server custom" camera.
19:11 <philippeqc> ok, I didnt try that one.
19:11 <philippeqc> pretty sure I did disable server custom though. lemme check
19:11 <wrtlprnft> no
19:11 <wrtlprnft> that's the mercam
19:12 <wrtlprnft> it doesn
19:12 <wrtlprnft> 't have the menu stuff yet
19:13 <wrtlprnft> oh, btw, if you go onto a server that disables the incam, but set the incam as default and disable all other cameras in your settings you still get to use it
19:15 <philippeqc> z-man RemoveFromGame worked!!!! I cant find the exec that I used to play sooner today (way too many version). I'll investigate the mistery camera later.
19:16  * philippeqc read wrtlprnft's comment about the mercam
19:16 <z-man> maybe wrtl is right about the camera
19:17 <wrtlprnft> wow, that i can see that happen ;)
19:17  * z-man reminds wrtlprnft he's the one who touched eCamera.cpp last
19:18 <wrtlprnft> that doesn't mean i have any idea about what the code in there does
19:18 <z-man> Nobody does, it's one of the mystery spots :)
19:18 <wrtlprnft> hmm
19:18 <wrtlprnft> who wrote it?
19:18 <z-man> Me, mostly
19:18 <wrtlprnft> well
19:19 <z-man> Yeah, well, ok, I know what most of it does.
19:21 <philippeqc> cue in the Twilight Zone music
19:27  * wrtlprnft can't really program in this heat... my brain doesn't work
19:27 <wrtlprnft> the formula parser's gotta wait
19:28 <philippeqc> noooooooooooooo
19:28  * philippeqc invites wrtlprnft to move to sweden
19:29  * wrtlprnft can't talk swedish
19:29 <guru3> nor could i
19:29 <guru3> i still lived here
19:29 <philippeqc> o you wont have time to talk with all the coding you'll be doing here
19:29 <wrtlprnft> hmm
19:29 <wrtlprnft> maybe that's why opera is having such a good browser
19:29 <wrtlprnft> they just don't have that summer heat there
19:36 <Compn> opera is great ;)
19:36 -!- GodTodd [n=GodTodd@c-71-199-204-144.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #armagetron
19:38 <wrtlprnft> don't need to tell me ;)
19:45  * z-man has a fan on the ceiling, really huge, blows like a heli on the highest setting :)
19:45 <z-man> I would not want to miss it.
19:46 <wrtlprnft> :w
19:46 <wrtlprnft> oops
19:48 <philippeqc> i hate me
19:49 <wrtlprnft> err
19:49 <wrtlprnft> armabot is still not sending commits, it seems
19:49 <philippeqc> I'm trying to finish up zone v2, and I keep seeing improvements and stuff to add
19:49 <wrtlprnft> just committed something
19:49 <philippeqc> wrtlprnft: it takes a few minutes
19:49 <wrtlprnft> it used to be instant
19:50 -!- [Xpert]D1rkStar [n=darkstar@84-74-41-29.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #armagetron
19:50 <[Xpert]D1rkStar> it's my sister's bf's bad...
19:51 <[Xpert]D1rkStar> he's putting up some lamps
19:51 <philippeqc> hi dark's sister bf' dad!
19:51 <[Xpert]D1rkStar> and produced a short circuit
19:51 <[Xpert]D1rkStar> philippeqc: dude
19:51 <[Xpert]D1rkStar> i'm talking about problems my sister's bf produced...
19:51 <philippeqc> I though you said that it was him on the keyboard, to be nice to him
19:52 <[Xpert]D1rkStar> lol
19:52 <[Xpert]D1rkStar> no
19:52 <philippeqc> well, we met spidey's mom sooner today
19:52 -!- [Xpert]DarkStar [n=darkstar@84-74-41-29.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Nick collision from services.]
19:52 -!- [Xpert]D1rkStar is now known as [Xpert]DarkStar
19:52 <[Xpert]DarkStar> hrhr
19:52 <[Xpert]DarkStar> when?
19:53 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: what's mercam?
19:53  * luke-jr_ wouldn't know how to make a camera
19:53 <philippeqc> ~10
19:53 <[Xpert]DarkStar> aww
19:53 <philippeqc> ~10 am @ GMT +1
19:53 <[Xpert]DarkStar> too bad i haven't been online that time
19:56 <luke-jr_> sh: /usr/X11R6/bin/xauth: not found
19:56 <luke-jr_>  17:56:53 up 1 day, 13:39, load average: 0.08, 0.01, 0.00
19:56 <luke-jr_>  18:18:54 up 34 days,  6:41,  5 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
19:56 <luke-jr_>  12:57:05 up  5:32,  0 users,  load average: 0.10, 0.03, 0.01
19:56 <luke-jr_>  17:56:08 up 22 min,  3 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
19:56 <luke-jr_>  17:57:20 up 12 days, 14:09, 110 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.16, 0.38
19:57 <luke-jr_>  12:57:52 up  1:18,  1 user,  load average: 0.81, 0.55, 0.35
19:57 <[Xpert]DarkStar> and i just lost all my uptimes a short bit ago :(
20:01 <philippeqc> luke-jr_: what is the setting to disable dtd validation?
20:01 <luke-jr_> there is none
20:01 <luke-jr_> AFAIK
20:01 <philippeqc> so your telling me that you argued that much, and ended up never coding something as simple as THAT?
20:03 -!- Vanhayes [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu84w-156034183047.nb.aliant.net] has joined #armagetron
20:03 <philippeqc> wrtlprnft: your commit still hasn't been reported
20:25 <philippeqc> has anyone heard of Joda recently?
20:39 <philippeqc> if you want a taste of the new zones, log to my server "zone v2 test server"
20:42 <philippeqc> it works
20:43 <wrtlprnft> incoming
20:51 <luke-jr_> philippeqc: new zones?
20:51 <philippeqc> yes
20:52 <luke-jr_> ?
20:55 <philippeqc> come and try
21:07 <philippeqc> back
21:09 <philippeqc> luke-jr_: one part of the code is stubbed: the team building part. Joda was supposed to work on that, but I havent heard anything about it.
21:09 <philippeqc> once that is enabled, then the full capacity of this changes will be enabled.
21:10 <philippeqc> before that, my stub only matches fixed strings to players names.
21:10 <philippeqc> hence the "ph" 
21:15 <philippeqc> going to sit in front of a movie
21:21 <wrtlprnft> ever tried sitting behind a movie?
22:14 -!- j0hann3s [n=j0hannes@i577BB70B.versanet.de] has joined #armagetron
22:22 <Lucifer_arma> well, it's 98 outside and 81 in here, tht's quite an improvement
22:28 <Compn> philippeqc : what ver arma is required?
22:28 <Compn> i'm waiting for non-round zones, or fortress/sumo zones that move while you try to surround/stay in them :)
22:28 -!- wejp [n=j0hannes@87.123.135.112] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
22:30 <Lucifer_arma> #g 81 F in C
22:30 <armabot> 81 degrees Fahrenheit = 27.2222222 degrees Celsius
22:30 <Lucifer_arma> #g 98 F in C
22:30 <armabot> 98 degrees Fahrenheit = 36.6666667 degrees Celsius
22:30 <Vanhayes> #g 21 c in f
22:30 <armabot> 21 degrees Celsius = 69.8 degrees Fahrenheit
22:30 <Vanhayes> pretty shutty day out here
22:30 <Vanhayes> shitty*
22:31 <Lucifer_arma> well, the last day the temperature went up near to 100, the inside temperature was 84-85
22:31 <Vanhayes> air conditioner?
22:33 <Lucifer_arma> well, yeah, but it runs all the time anyway
22:34 <Lucifer_arma> I put up windowshades in my kid's room, which has mostly windows instead of walls
22:35 <Compn> philippeqc : i keep dying without anything happening
22:35 <Compn> random death
22:35 <Compn> on your server
22:36 <Vanhayes> lol that what the redzone does
22:36 <wrtlprnft> Compn: a random person dies if someone enters the red zone
22:37 <Compn> ah
22:37 <Compn> sort of like fortress bombs?
22:37 <wrtlprnft> just testing
22:38 <wrtlprnft> *for testing purposes
22:38 <Compn> ah
22:38 <Compn> you remember fortress bombs right?
22:38 <Compn> take a zone, kill a person...
22:41 -!- Lackadaisical [n=lack@ipd50aa335.speed.planet.nl] has joined #armagetron
22:42 <Vanhayes> Compn: like in sumo when you conquer someones zone?
22:47 <Lucifer_arma> Lackadaisical: did you get my PM on the forums?
22:48 <Lackadaisical> yeah
22:49 <Lucifer_arma> sooooooo..... ?  you wanna do it?  ;)
22:50 <Lackadaisical> yeah, i guess it would be ok
22:51 <Lackadaisical> i already had a sourceforge user for a reason forgotten: lackadaisical
22:53 <luke-jr_> Lackadaisical: can you fix the current designs that are broken? :)
22:54 <Lackadaisical> yeah i guess i could... but the whole svn thing is still kind of abstract to me
22:55 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: ara
22:55 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: armabot is broken agaib
22:55 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: armabot is broken again
22:55 <wrtlprnft> won't post commpits, but they do appear on CIA
22:56 -!- joda_bot [n=anonymou@dslb-084-061-022-163.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #armagetron
22:57 <joda_bot> #notes
22:57 <armabot> joda_bot: I currently have notes waiting for $randomnick, ar*, Luke-Jr, Nickserv, operserv, phil, someone, and unknown.
22:59 <wrtlprnft> #notes ar
22:59 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: I have no notes for that nick.
22:59 <wrtlprnft> #notes ar*
22:59 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Sent 2 weeks, 0 days, 23 hours, and 54 minutes ago: <joda_bot> test and Sent 2 weeks, 0 days, 23 hours, and 53 minutes ago: <joda_bot> #m joda* test
23:00 <Lucifer_arma> what's the name of the cia bot in CIA?
23:03 <Lucifer_arma> ok, you're added lack, thanks, awesome, etc.  :)
23:03 <Lackadaisical> your welcome, i gotta reboot now
23:03 -!- Lackadaisical [n=lack@ipd50aa335.speed.planet.nl] has quit ["ii"]
23:03 <Lucifer_arma> I'm waiting for Your_mom and edd to give me their sourceforge user accounts, then I'll add them and make a general announcement :)
23:05 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, the bot changed names :(
23:05 -!- joda_bot [n=anonymou@dslb-084-061-022-163.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #armagetron []
23:05 <Compn> kama is good at gamma
23:07 <Lucifer_arma> #reload CIA
23:07 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
23:07 <Lucifer_arma> #reload CIA
23:07 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
23:10 <armabot> armagetronad: davidfancella * r5791 /support/armabot/trunk/plugins/CIA/plugin.py: Removed spurious comment to test armabot
23:10 <armabot>  Executed 'armabotupdater'
23:12 <armabot> armagetronad: test
23:12 <armabot> armagetronad: hmm, bad idea, anyone can have "CIA" at the beginning of his name :S
23:13 <philippeqc> Compn: still there?
23:14 <philippeqc> compn: i tested it with version what will be version 0.2.8.3, but I guess it should work with anything that support zones.
23:15 <philippeqc> the thing is not that the zones are moving, but rather that each time someone enters the red zone, some random player dies. Instantly.
23:15 <wrtlprnft> moving zones should be possible once we have a formula parser
23:16 <wrtlprnft> and you'll need a newer client, except if the zone only goes in a straight line
23:16 <philippeqc> wrtlprnft: yes, I'll love the moving zones ;) I already have a neat idea. Of course it will never make an interesting server, but it will be a neat idea non the less
23:18 <philippeqc> wrtlprnft: well, the server might send a great many updates of trajectories, or the formula code of z-man (tFunction) might kick in and always try to predict where it should go (with a k1 + x*k2 equation)
23:20 <philippeqc> #notes ar*
23:20 <armabot> philippeqc: Sent 2 weeks, 1 day, 0 hours, and 14 minutes ago: <joda_bot> test and Sent 2 weeks, 1 day, 0 hours, and 13 minutes ago: <joda_bot> #m joda* test
23:20 <philippeqc> wrtlprnft: does that means that joda hasnt been on IRC for 2 weeks?
23:20 <nemostultae> he was just here.
23:20 <philippeqc> o yeah
23:20 <nemostultae> #seen joda_bot
23:20 <armabot> nemostultae: joda_bot was last seen in #armagetron 23 minutes and 22 seconds ago: <joda_bot> #notes
23:20 <philippeqc> darn missed him
23:38 <philippeqc> Well, #notes phil
23:38 <philippeqc> #notes phil
23:38 <armabot> philippeqc: Sent 7 weeks, 4 days, 21 hours, and 6 minutes ago: <wrtlprnft> uh, the fact that you can't put std::auto_ptrs into containers is exactly why i made tAutoDeque ;)
23:38 <philippeqc> #night
23:38 <armabot> Good night philippeqc!
23:39 -!- philippeqc [n=philippe@83.250.130.90] has quit ["Leaving"]
23:49  * [Xpert]DarkStar is proud of himself
23:51 <[Xpert]DarkStar> i edited the armagetron ebuild so it would do 0.3.0 ^^
View entire month
DISCLAIMER: These logs of public chat may contain some content which may not be appropriate for all audiences. Use at your own risk.
Logs from 2006-2009 pulled from wrtlprnft
Format changes at: 2015-08-25, 2017-02-20, and 2020-03-23. Times (2015 and later) should be Eastern.


 
 
 ArmaNelgTron.tk
 © NelgTron 2014-2024. Made for . [About this site] [Credits]