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Log from 2006-07-02:
--- Day changed Sun Jul 02 2006
00:00 <Vanhayes> AW is about to win vs SP
00:00 <Vanhayes> AW is about to win vs SP
00:00 <Vanhayes> madmax|pt, join now
00:00 <Vanhayes> madmax|pt, u there?
00:00 <madmax|pt> yes
00:01 <Vanhayes> sorry man I thought it was best 3 out of 5 not 2 out of 3
00:01 <Mkbkd> and WS vs LOL is going 
00:01 <Lucifer_arma> SL is former fe?  what's SL stand for?
00:01 <madmax|pt> this sucks
00:01 <Vanhayes> shadow legue
00:01 <Vanhayes> madmax|pt, u play next match
00:01 <Mkbkd> shadow legion ~_~
00:01 <Lucifer_arma> so they're not Formerly Elite anymore?
00:01 <Mkbkd> haha
00:02 <Vanhayes> #fe
00:02 <Mkbkd> nope we is
00:02 <armabot> Fortress ...err... Something
00:02 <Lucifer_arma> isn't fe still around though?  I've seen fe-sky recently...
00:02 <Mkbkd> hmm 2020 t room server down 
00:02 <Vanhayes> it isnt dedicated so he hosts it
00:02 <Mkbkd> now his SL  (sKy)
00:03 <Vanhayes> SL beat LOD right?
00:03 <Mkbkd> yup
00:03 <Lucifer_arma> must be a recent thing, then.  Probably got tired of being called Formerly Elite
00:03 <Mkbkd> <_<
00:05 <Vanhayes> who are you Mkbkd?
00:05  * Lucifer_arma is tempted to start up a Fortress Egalitarian clan now
00:05 <Vanhayes> lol
00:05 <madmax|pt> Zop just said to me "who knows maybe AW won cause you weren't here :)"
00:05 <madmax|pt> this is really cool
00:06 <Mkbkd> ohh forget its me Ossi !)
00:06 <Vanhayes> heh Hey ossi
00:11 <Mkbkd> brb new match
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00:13 <Mkbkd> bwahahah SL vs Aw !)
00:13 <Mkbkd> and AW need players =_
00:13 <Mkbkd> =_=
00:14 <Mkbkd> !rules
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00:14 <Mkbkd> !help
00:14 <Mkbkd> !how2sweem
00:14 <Mkbkd> =-=
00:15 <Lackadaisical> wasn't it called Forfeit Elite?
00:15 <Mkbkd> #babel fish> forfeit
00:15  * Mkbkd dont speek english =_=
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00:16 <Mkbkd> ohh !)
00:17 <Vanhayes> spidey, DiD wa alread play there match?
00:18 <Vanhayes> spidey, Did WS alread play there match? i mean
00:18 <Mkbkd> hmm some WS still on bugferm
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00:31  * Lucifer_arma is chuckling about "Forfeit Elite"
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00:34 <Vanhayes> your gonna have to come up with something for SL now
00:35 <Mkbkd> #google free english lessons 4 noobz
00:35 <armabot> Mkbkd: Search took 0.50 seconds: Geek.com Geek News - Compaq now offering DDR: <http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2001feb/chi20010222004464.htm>; The OFFICIAL Pure Pwnage forums > List of Free MMORPGs: <http://www.purepwnage.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t15826.html>; Free Image and Video Hosting - Photo Image Hosting Site ...: <http://photobucket.com/>; 06S62!!: March 2006: (2 more messages)
00:35 <Mkbkd> ehh
00:36 <[Xpert]DarkStar> evening everyone
00:36 <Mkbkd> already >_>
00:37 <Mkbkd> #time Moscow
00:37 <armabot> Mkbkd: Moscow
00:37 <Mkbkd> hmm
00:37 <Vanhayes> evening
00:38 <Vanhayes> #help time
00:38 <armabot> Vanhayes: (time [<format>] [<seconds since epoch>]) -- Returns the current time in <format> format, or, if <format> is not given, uses the configurable format for the current channel. If no <seconds since epoch> time is given, the current time is used.
00:38 <Mkbkd> ty =_=
00:38 <Vanhayes> lol
00:38 <Vanhayes> #time minutes
00:38 <armabot> Vanhayes: minutes
00:38 <Vanhayes> er
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00:39 <Vanhayes> wb madmax|pt
00:39 <madmax|pt> ty
00:39 <joda_bot> #time GMT
00:39 <armabot> joda_bot: GMT
00:39 <joda_bot> :-)
00:39 <Vanhayes> lol
00:39 <Vanhayes> #time
00:39 <armabot> Vanhayes: 05:40 PM, July 01, 2006
00:40 <Vanhayes> lol
00:40 <[Xpert]DarkStar> hmm
00:40 <[Xpert]DarkStar> it's july 2 here
00:40 <joda_bot> #time HH:MM:SS DD.MM.YYYY
00:40 <[Xpert]DarkStar> 0:40
00:40 <armabot> joda_bot: Error: 'DD.MM.YYYY' is not a valid floating point number.
00:40 <joda_bot> #time HH:MM:SS
00:40 <armabot> joda_bot: HH:MM:SS
00:40 <joda_bot> ropfl
00:40 <[Xpert]DarkStar> %H
00:40 <Vanhayes> it is only 2 hours slow for me
00:41 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #time %H:%M:%S
00:41 <armabot> [Xpert]DarkStar: 17:41:21
00:41 <joda_bot> % ?
00:41 <joda_bot> hmmm ;)
00:41 <[Xpert]DarkStar> ^^
00:41 <joda_bot> the timezone is still of for me ;)
00:41 <Vanhayes> #time %s
00:41 <Vanhayes> #time %S
00:41 <Vanhayes> bah
00:41 <armabot> Vanhayes: 1151793713
00:41 <armabot> Vanhayes: 53
00:41 <madmax|pt> lol
00:41 <Vanhayes> wo
00:41 <joda_bot> #time %H:%M:%S %D.%M.%Y
00:41 <armabot> joda_bot: Error: '%D.%M.%Y' is not a valid floating point number.
00:42 <Vanhayes> #time %y
00:42 <armabot> Vanhayes: 06
00:42 <Vanhayes> #time %Y
00:42 <armabot> Vanhayes: 2006
00:42 <Vanhayes> heh
00:42 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #time %H:%M:%S-%D.%M.%Y
00:42 <armabot> [Xpert]DarkStar: 17:42:28-07/01/06.42.2006
00:42  * spidey is very happy
00:42 <spidey> xD
00:42 <madmax|pt> your operative systems don't have a clock? :P
00:42 <Vanhayes> WS won?
00:42 <spidey> now i have to piss after that match
00:42 <spidey> yea
00:42 <spidey> sbrb
00:42 <Vanhayes> congrats
00:42 <madmax|pt> against who?
00:42 <joda_bot> #time %DD
00:42 <armabot> joda_bot: 07/01/06D
00:42 <Vanhayes> LOL
00:42 <joda_bot> #time %D
00:42 <armabot> joda_bot: 07/01/06
00:42 <Vanhayes> thats the team
00:42 <joda_bot> #time %d
00:42 <armabot> joda_bot: 01
00:43 <joda_bot> #time %d 1212
00:43 <armabot> joda_bot: 31
00:43 <[Xpert]DarkStar> joda_bot: did you know you can /msg the bot?
00:43 <Vanhayes> madmax|pt, go to z-man's ladle fort for next match
00:43 <joda_bot> [Xpert]DarkStar: sure ;)
00:43 <joda_bot> just spamming around ;)
00:43 <madmax|pt> Van, you play
00:43 <[Xpert]DarkStar> heh
00:43 <Vanhayes> you arnt gonna?
00:43 <joda_bot> madmax|pt: you should not listen to zop :-)
00:44 <madmax|pt> no
00:44 <madmax|pt> you play
00:44 <Vanhayes> well we can both play
00:44 <Lucifer_arma> Vanhayes: not me, Lackadaisical's the one that comes up with the cool meanings for fe :)
00:44 <Vanhayes> lol
00:44 <madmax|pt> i lost my appetite
00:45 <Lucifer_arma> Lackadaisical is in charge of kicking ass and coming up with words for Fe that reflect reality
00:45 <madmax|pt> lol
00:45 <[Xpert]DarkStar> as it is now 00:45 here...
00:45  * [Xpert]DarkStar is going to sleep
00:45 <Lucifer_arma> 'night
00:45 <[Xpert]DarkStar> thanks
00:45 <[Xpert]DarkStar> you too
00:45 <[Xpert]DarkStar> and all others as well
00:45 <Vanhayes> night
00:46 <madmax|pt> bye
00:46 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #night
00:46 <armabot> Good night [Xpert]DarkStar!
00:46 <[Xpert]DarkStar> bye everyone
00:48 <spidey> mm
00:48 <spidey> we might win the CT match by forfeit O_o
00:49 <z-man> I'm letting this PC upload the builds of 0.3.0 to SourceForge. Anyone who cares and wishes can make a file release off them.
00:50 <z-man> I'll do it myself eventually, but not within the next 10 hours.
00:50 <z-man> If Brooky comes back, tell him it's a bad idea to /msg someone if you just want help :)
00:51 <z-man> #night
00:51 <armabot> Good night z-man!
00:51 <Lackadaisical> madmax|pt: they're one short now
00:51  * Lucifer_arma thinks he'll make the release on sourceforge, we can always hide it later if we want to go back on it there
00:52 <madmax|pt> please enter the game Lack
00:52 <Lackadaisical> Nii isnt playing
00:52 <Lackadaisical> like last match
00:53 <z-man> Ok, look at what file went where in the release and do it the same way again :) Warning, SF File Releases are a true pain.
00:53 <madmax|pt> now Durka is playing for AW?
00:53 <z-man> Don't forget to set the correct file types. One by one. With a huge page rebuilding every time.
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00:54 <Vanhayes> madmax|pt, I dont know
00:54 <Vanhayes> madmax|pt, are u playing?
00:54 <madmax|pt> no
00:54 <Vanhayes> why not?
00:54 <madmax|pt> like i said, i lost my appetite
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00:54 <Lackadaisical> :(
00:54 <madmax|pt> wasnt Durka in LOL?
00:55 <Lackadaisical> yes]
00:55 <Lucifer_arma> lost your appetite?  what happened?
00:56 <Lucifer_arma> z-man: yeah, I know that'll suck :)
00:56  * Lucifer_arma has done sourceforge file releases before, and they suck ass
00:57 <joda_bot> #night
00:57 <armabot> Good night joda_bot!
00:57 <joda_bot> ;)
00:57 <joda_bot> And may the best team win the laddle 
00:57 <Lackadaisical> gnight
00:57 <madmax|pt> cya joda
00:58 <joda_bot> good luck lack , madmax|pt ;) you'll win (at least some points ;))
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01:00 <madmax|pt> does anyone know a musical group called Boozoo Bajou?
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01:04 <madmax|pt> guess im really the only one huh
01:04 <Lackadaisical> heh no i dont know it
01:05 <Lackadaisical> sure you dont want to play?
01:05 <madmax|pt> i'm sure
01:05 <Lackadaisical> k
01:09 <spidey> lack
01:09 <spidey> you on a ladle team?
01:11 <Vanhayes> AW
01:11 <Vanhayes> match about to start
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01:23 <Vanhayes_> ##
01:23 <armabot> Random Fortune:  Q: How do you stop an elephant from charging? || A: Take away his credit cards.
01:24 <Vanhayes_> Lackadaisical, server is full
01:24 <Vanhayes_> I cant get back in :(
01:24 <spidey> mmm
01:24 <spidey> slucis server just bugged the fuck out
01:25 <Vanhayes_> try /players
01:25 <Vanhayes_> he cheats
01:25 <spidey> i don't mean some minor bug,i mean major O_o
01:25 <Vanhayes_> try .players
01:25 <Vanhayes_> er /*
01:25 <spidey> yea/
01:25 <spidey> ?
01:26 <Vanhayes_> it will tell u if he is logged in
01:26 <spidey> he is
01:26 <spidey> man
01:26 <spidey> 3 axis owns
01:27 <Vanhayes_> get a SS of him logged in
01:29 <madmax|pt> did CT show up?
01:29 <Lucifer_arma> who?  what?
01:29 <madmax|pt> o_O
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01:36 <Vanhayes__> spidey, are they still ogged in?
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01:38 <Lucifer_arma> still logged in where?  is this on my server?
01:38 <spidey> ?
01:38 <_Vanhayes_> on Ady lucifer
01:39 <spidey> no
01:39 <spidey> we had to logout and login
01:39 <spidey> and ct hasn't been found yet
01:39 <madmax|pt> i think Lucifer is stressed
01:39 <spidey> WS) Manta says:
01:39 <spidey> ok looks like CT has officaly droped out of the lades, acording to xevi
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01:40 <madmax|pt> o_O
01:40 <madmax|pt> Van, are collecting nick here?
01:40 <madmax|pt> *are you
01:40 <madmax|pt> *nicks
01:40 <madmax|pt> lol
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01:41 <madmax|pt> which Vanhayes should i talk to?
01:41 <Vanhayes> this one
01:41 <spidey> mmm
01:41 <Vanhayes> wo
01:42 <Vanhayes> Lackadaisical, the server is full again
01:42 <spidey> looks lie
01:42 <spidey> we're playing aw O_o
01:42 <Lackadaisical> ok
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01:45 <[1]Vanhayes> ##
01:45 <armabot> Random Fortune:  6 oz. orange juice || 1 oz. vodka || 1/2 oz. Galliano || Harvey Wallbangers
01:45 <[1]Vanhayes> this is gettinf insane
01:46 <madmax|pt> that must be a record
01:46 <madmax|pt> :D
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01:53 <flea> lol is obliv here
01:54 <Vanhayes_> AW lost
01:54 <Vanhayes_> hmm
01:54 <madmax|pt> some big ping timeouts on freenode
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01:55 <Vanhayes> heh
01:55 <spidey> :p
01:55 <Vanhayes> rcant do anything bout the others
01:55 <Mkbkd> awawawawawaw
01:55 <Lackadaisical> aw aw aw we lost
01:55 <Vanhayes> man I only played about 1 match out of the 3
01:56 <Vanhayes> I could have at least got 1 kil :(
01:56 <spidey> bbl,
01:56  * Mkbkd need change pants
01:56 <Lackadaisical> heh yeah
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01:56 <Vanhayes> heh
01:56 <Vanhayes> 1 down
01:57 <Lackadaisical> i cant believe fe is actually gonna win the ladle
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01:58 <Mkbkd> i dont believe it 2 )
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01:59 <Vanhayes_> Bah
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01:59 <Mkbkd> how many vans left ?)
01:59 <Vanhayes> only 1
01:59 <Lackadaisical> 1 more
02:00 <Vanhayes> other than me
02:00 <Mkbkd> clone it )
02:00  * Vanhayes pokes [1]Vanhayes
02:00 <Lackadaisical> hayes are you still interested in high level regular matches?
02:04 <Vanhayes> yes I am
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02:09 <Lackadaisical> because i made a password protected pbwiki but i'm not so sure if we should use it
02:09 <Lackadaisical> and we could just pass the url and pass around
02:09 <Vanhayes> hmm we should find out who is interested
02:09 <Vanhayes> yes
02:09 <Lackadaisical> i know max is
02:09 <Vanhayes> I am surprised how well this tourney has gone
02:09 <Lackadaisical> yeah me too
02:10 <Lackadaisical> there werent too many teams luckily
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02:17 <Vanhayes> grrrr
02:17 <Lucifer_arma> wait, there's an Ady Lucifer server now?
02:18  * Lucifer_arma wonders why madmax|pt says he's stressed
02:18 <Vanhayes> yes, it is the LOD server
02:18 <Vanhayes> he runs it I think
02:18 <madmax|pt> lol
02:19 <madmax|pt> Lucifer_arma maybe cause of this? -> "who? what? still logged in where?  is this on my server?"
02:21 <Vanhayes> hmm
02:21 <Vanhayes> #realchatlogs
02:21 <armabot> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armalogs.txt
02:22 <Vanhayes> #google Mcspiddles
02:22 <armabot> Vanhayes: Search took 0.26 seconds: #armagetron @ freenode stats by Guru3: <http://guru3.sytes.net/ircstats/armagetron.html>
02:23 <Lackadaisical> yay that page doesnt say i'm stupid anymore
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02:25 <Vanhayes> ##
02:25 <armabot> Random Fortune:  Q: What does it say on the bottom of Coke cans in North Dakota? || A: Open other end.
02:28 <Lucifer_arma> well, madmax|pt, if you were following what was said, spidey said something really bad happened on my server, then started talking to vanhayes about getting a screenshot of someone being logged in as spectator
02:28 <Lucifer_arma> who was doing something mean
02:29 <Vanhayes> hmm I thought spidey said it was on LOD server
02:30 <madmax|pt> i thought that too....
02:30 <Lackadaisical> spidey>	slucis server just bugged the fuck out
02:30 <Vanhayes> ady luci
02:31 <Vanhayes> it was a ladle match between LOD(ady-Lucifer's clan) and WS
02:31 <Lucifer_arma> <Lucifer_arma> wait, there's an Ady Lucifer server now?
02:31 <Vanhayes> was I kicked from here today?
02:31 <Lucifer_arma> yes, for spamming guru3
02:31 <Vanhayes> ?
02:31 <Vanhayes> when did I do that?
02:32 <Lucifer_arma> Poor Lucifer_arma, nobody likes him/her. He/She was attacked 26 times.
02:32 <Lucifer_arma> For example, like this:
02:32 <Lucifer_arma>      * Lucifer_arma smacks Lucifer_arma
02:32 <Lucifer_arma> probably sometime you hit #spam and laughed abut some random person getting it, and the random person was guru3 :)
02:32 <Vanhayes> or maybe it was when I hit #g
02:32 <Vanhayes> that spammed people too
02:33 <Vanhayes> so does a few other alias'
02:33  * Lucifer_arma considers disabling the alias plugin
02:33 <Vanhayes> #help g
02:33 <armabot> Vanhayes: (g <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo [google calc $*] -- [spam]".
02:33 <Vanhayes> pretty sure that is what happened
02:34 <Vanhayes> #alias add g echo [google calc $*]
02:34 <armabot> Vanhayes: The operation succeeded.
02:34 <Vanhayes> #g 4+4
02:34 <armabot> Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
02:34 <Vanhayes> ...
02:34 <Vanhayes> #g 484
02:34 <armabot> Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
02:34 <Vanhayes> er
02:35 <Vanhayes> #g 10*10
02:35 <armabot> Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
02:35 <Vanhayes> #help g
02:35 <armabot> Vanhayes: (g <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.".
02:40 <Mkbkd> ok we won it BWAHAHA
02:41 <Lackadaisical> #g the answer to life, the universe and everything
02:41 <spidey> O_o
02:41 <armabot> the answer to life, the universe and everything = 42
02:41 <spidey> we lost
02:41 <spidey> but made the finals xD
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02:42 <Mkbkd> 42
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02:42 <Mkbkd> hmm or 36 =_=
02:42 <Lackadaisical> 42!
02:42 <Lackadaisical> google doesnt lie
02:43 <Mkbkd> #g how many ppl live
02:43 <armabot> Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
02:43 <Mkbkd> <_<
02:44 <Vanhayes> #google fight Mkbkd Vanhayes
02:44 <armabot> Vanhayes: Vanhayes: 700, Mkbkd: 85
02:44 <Vanhayes> ...
02:44 <Vanhayes> #google fight Mkbkd Lackadaisical
02:44 <Mkbkd> T+T
02:44 <armabot> Vanhayes: Lackadaisical: 1080000, Mkbkd: 85
02:44 <Mkbkd> T_T
02:44 <Vanhayes> wo
02:44 <madmax|pt> fight with meeee
02:44  * Mkbkd CRY
02:44 <Vanhayes> #google fight madmax|pt Lackadaisical
02:44 <armabot> Vanhayes: madmax|pt: 528000000, Lackadaisical: 1080000
02:44 <Mkbkd> OMG
02:44 <Vanhayes> ahaha
02:44 <madmax|pt> eheheh
02:45 <Mkbkd> #google fight z-man armabot
02:45 <Mkbkd> bwahaha
02:45 <armabot> Mkbkd: z-man: 3070000, armabot: 951
02:45 <Vanhayes> heh
02:46 <Vanhayes> #google armabot
02:46 <armabot> Vanhayes: Search took 0.50 seconds: Knights IRC - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Knights_IRC>; IRC Channel - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/IRC_Channel>; wrtlprnft - CIA: <http://cia.navi.cx/stats/author/wrtlprnft>; Blogger: User Profile: DarkTemplar~AoA Blogger Push -Button ...: <http://www.blogger.com/profile/4272582>; (2 more messages)
02:47 <Lackadaisical> cia?
02:47 <Mkbkd> #google fight God Satan
02:47 <armabot> Mkbkd: God: 674000000, Satan: 42400000
02:47 <Lucifer_arma>  The end of time is reached around the year 8000, by which time we expect Qt to be obsolete.
02:47 <Lackadaisical> #google fight good evil
02:47 <armabot> Lackadaisical: Error: Unexpected error from Google; please report this to the Supybot developers.
02:47 <Mkbkd> haha
02:47 <madmax|pt> the "too many results" issue?
02:48 <Lackadaisical> i guess..
02:48 <Mkbkd> #help
02:48 <armabot> Mkbkd: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
02:51 <madmax|pt> #google fight fraunhofer lame
02:51 <armabot> madmax|pt: lame: 71400000, fraunhofer: 28800000
02:52 <madmax|pt> is it possible to search more than one word on each?
02:52 <spidey> yea
02:53 <madmax|pt> oh nvm
02:53 <madmax|pt> just pvt the bot
02:53 <madmax|pt> :D
02:53 <Vanhayes> Lucifer_arma, um what?
02:53 <spidey> lol
02:53 <madmax|pt> lame encoder wins
02:53 <madmax|pt> lol
02:53 <Mkbkd> #google fight mp3 ogg
02:53 <armabot> Mkbkd: mp3: 1170000000, ogg: 39400000
02:53 <Mkbkd> nowai
02:54 <Lackadaisical> wai
02:54 <Mkbkd> dontwont ><
02:54 <madmax|pt> #google fight mov wmv
02:54 <Mkbkd> ape Rox
02:54 <armabot> madmax|pt: wmv: 46400000, mov: 39100000
02:54 <Lackadaisical> close one
02:54 <Mkbkd> dontwont ><
02:54 <Mkbkd> wops
02:55 <madmax|pt> it sucks not being able to open the last wmv version in VLC =/
02:55 <Lackadaisical> #google fight buy download
02:55 <armabot> Lackadaisical: Error: Unexpected error from Google; please report this to the Supybot developers.
02:56 <Mkbkd> #google fight birth death
02:56 <madmax|pt> #google fight armagetron gltron
02:56 <armabot> Mkbkd: death: 945000000, birth: 469000000
02:56 <armabot> madmax|pt: armagetron: 285000, gltron: 169000
02:56 <madmax|pt> pwn
02:56 <madmax|pt> lol
02:56 <Mkbkd> #google fight pwn own
02:56 <armabot> Mkbkd: Error: Unexpected error from Google; please report this to the Supybot developers.
02:56 <spidey> max > you're gonna die
02:56 <madmax|pt> erm
02:56 <madmax|pt> i am?
02:56 <spidey> yea
02:57 <madmax|pt> well, ok
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02:59 <madmax|pt> #google fight irc messenger
02:59 <armabot> madmax|pt: messenger: 383000000, irc: 197000000
02:59 <Vanhayes_> #google fight me you
02:59 <armabot> Vanhayes_: Error: Unexpected error from Google; please report this to the Supybot developers.
03:00 <Vanhayes_> #ping
03:00 <armabot> pong
03:03 <Vanhayes_> #ping
03:03 <armabot> pong
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03:09 <cusco> dudes
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03:09 <cusco> I was just playing as root
03:09 <cusco> LOL
03:09 <cusco> :/
03:10 <cusco> didn't notice that
03:10 <cusco> only after the control
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03:12 <Lackadaisical> im gonna play leeroy now.. if anyone wants to watch me getting owned
03:12 <madmax|pt> cool
03:12 <madmax|pt> err.. not the own part
03:12 <madmax|pt> prolly a good match :)
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03:19 <luke-jr_> spidey: if Addon Domains worked, it might
03:20 <luke-jr_> #later tell philippeqc you forget the bit that fields will need to have 3D positions, including rotation, in the visual perspective
03:20 <armabot> luke-jr_: The operation succeeded.
03:21 <luke-jr_> #later tell philippeqc I'm thinking particularly that we already have rendering issues with transparency
03:21 <armabot> luke-jr_: The operation succeeded.
03:22 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: sphere is a good idea-- logically implemented simply with speed multipliers and then rendering is left over
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03:29 <Lackadaisical> pfff
03:29 <Lackadaisical> i was twitching so much
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03:30 <madmax|pt> happens
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04:00 <Lucifer_arma> <Lucifer_arma> The end of time is reached around the year 8000, by which time we expect Qt to be obsolete.  <--- from the Qt documentation
04:01 <madmax|pt> Qt?
04:01 <Lucifer_arma> gui widget library, cross-platform, used by KDE
04:01 <Lucifer_arma> it provides native widgets on WIndows and Mac OS X and Motif, but it's own generic implementation under X11, and it's very pretty
04:02 <Lucifer_arma> I'm using it to write my checkbook program, and naturally I need to use the date class, and that statement was in there to tell you the range available to the date class
04:03 <madmax|pt> I guess you'll have to use another one in 8000 then
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05:30 <Vanhayes> #night
05:30 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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06:05 <[NP]Tangent> heh
06:06 <[NP]Tangent> so I started actually playing aa again today
06:06 <[NP]Tangent> it was a goodd day
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah?
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06:10 <Lucifer_arma> yay, I've got pretty dialogs with backtraces instead of having to go to the terminal for them :)
06:14 <Your_mom_arma> ?
06:15 <[NP]Tangent> yay, I've tricked out my bzflag map anymore
06:15 <[NP]Tangent> boo, nobody's on my server to play it with me
06:15 <[NP]Tangent> damn lasermania kids
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07:45 <[Xpert]DarkStar> morning everyone
07:45 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #morning
07:45 <armabot> Good Morning [Xpert]DarkStar Random Fortune:  I'm not going to say, "I told you so."
07:45 <Lucifer_arma> morning dorkstar
07:45 <[Xpert]DarkStar> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/amd64/howtos/index.xml?part=1&chap=2 << doing this ^^
08:07 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #fortune
08:07 <armabot> [Xpert]DarkStar: Error: The command "fortune" is available in the Alias and Unix plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "fortune".
08:07 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #unix fortune
08:07 <armabot> [Xpert]DarkStar: Error: It seems the configured fortune command was not available.
08:07 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #alias fortune
08:07 <armabot> Random Fortune:  Q: What does it say on the bottom of Coke cans in North Dakota? || A: Open other end.
08:07 <[Xpert]DarkStar> :D
08:07 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #alias fortune
08:07 <armabot> Random Fortune:  It is much harder to find a job than to keep one.
08:08 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #alias fortune
08:08 <armabot> Random Fortune:  BOFH Excuse #348: || We're on Token Ring, and it looks like the token got loose.
08:08 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #alias fortune
08:08 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #alias fortune
08:08 <armabot> Random Fortune:  BOFH Excuse #86: || Runt packets
08:08 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #alias fortune
08:08 <armabot> Random Fortune:  FORD Tell me Arthur... || ARTHUR Yes? || FORD This boulder we're stuck under, how big would you || say it was? Roughly? || ARTHUR Oh, about the size of Coventry Cathedral. || FORD Do you think we could move it? (Arthur doesn't || reply) Just asking. || - Ford and Arthur in a tricky situation, Fit the Eighth.
08:34 <[NP]Tangent> #alias fortune
08:34 <armabot> Random Fortune:  "`You'd better be prepared for the jump into hyperspace. || It's unpleasently like being drunk.' || `What's so unpleasent about being drunk?' || `You ask a glass of water.'" || - Arthur getting ready for his first jump into hyperspace.
08:35 <[NP]Tangent> #uptime
08:35 <armabot> spidey: 08:35:04 up 71 days, 8:38, 6 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
08:35 <[NP]Tangent> heh
08:35 <[NP]Tangent>  00:35:20 up 1 day,  1:16,  2 users,  load average: 0.73, 1.43, 1.44
09:23 <[Xpert]DarkStar>  09:23:42 up 1 day, 12:36,  2 users,  load average: 0.01, 0.02, 0.00
09:34 <Lucifer_arma> z-man: heh, I've been working on my budget program all day, didn't get to the release yet.  I guess you noticed...  ;)
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10:07 <CraYSuPeRcOm> hola
10:07 <CraYSuPeRcOm> #hello
10:07 <armabot> Hello CraYSuPeRcOm :)
10:08 <CraYSuPeRcOm> #eightball
10:08 <armabot> CraYSuPeRcOm: Unlikely.
10:08 <CraYSuPeRcOm> anyone out there in the world today
10:08 <CraYSuPeRcOm> #news
10:08 <armabot> CraYSuPeRcOm: News for #armagetron: (#4) Armabot now has a message command; (#9) testbug
10:09 <CraYSuPeRcOm> #9
10:09 <CraYSuPeRcOm> #news 9
10:09 <armabot> CraYSuPeRcOm: bug (Subject: "testbug", added by 3 on 04:14 PM, June 23, 2006)
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10:27 <joda_bot> #morning
10:27 <armabot> Good Morning joda_bot Random Fortune:  QOTD: || "I ain't broke, but I'm badly bent."
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11:28 <philippeqc> hi
11:28 <philippeqc> z-man, do you know of any change in the core engine that would have occured between and now?
11:29 <philippeqc> I made a special map, wich work fine one 0.3+, but crashes
11:29 <philippeqc> I wanted to know how much I should investigate this problem.
11:30 <z-man> philippeqc: I don't know about any changes of significance.
11:30 <z-man> if you send me the map, I can investigate the crash.
11:30 <philippeqc> MAP_FILE    philippeqc/fortress/TheRatRace-0.0.1.aamap.xml 
11:31 <philippeqc> just load it in with 1 bot, and let it all drive. it will reach an error about halfway between the start position and the wall they face
11:31 <philippeqc> I guess it is because only a big triangle space is properly defined, and it start in the bounding box holding the triangle
11:35 <z-man> I'd rather blame the bizarre axes :)
11:35 <z-man> There were a couple of bugs in that make AIs not work with axies where you try to turn left, but really turn right.
11:36 <z-man> And even without AIs, network syncing won't work properly.
11:37 <philippeqc> I'm trying a new map with a small wall in the corner 0,0
11:37 <philippeqc> I'll also try with regular axes
11:42 <philippeqc> it seems to be axes related
11:42 <philippeqc> and IIRC, you fixed some things for axes since
11:43 <z-man> You could try to get the same effect by having two axes defined as you want, and the rest of them (really many) going chico-style around so they're essentially useless.
11:43 <z-man> should get along with that.
11:44 <philippeqc> its a concept map, its not really interesting past the "here is something that can be done" factor.
11:44 <z-man> Ah.
11:44 <wrtlprnft> #morning
11:44 <philippeqc> i wanted to show it up to ed to give him idea, but I only tested it on 0.3 before, and he only has which crashed. Though I should investigate
11:44 <armabot> Good Morning wrtlprnft Random Fortune:  That should probably be written: || no !@#$%^&*:@!semicolon || -- Larry Wall in <199710161841.LAA13208@wall.org>
11:45 <philippeqc> moring
11:45 <wrtlprnft> i fixed some AI crash with all custom axes a while ago
11:46 <wrtlprnft> "fixed", I don't understand the AI code, but I prevented a 0- deref somewhere
11:46 <philippeqc> in which version? past or before?
11:47 <wrtlprnft> that was long ago, but i think i did it in the trunk
11:47 <wrtlprnft> that was somewhere short before methinks
11:47 <philippeqc> k, so it would be fixed there and not in 0.2.8.x
11:47 <wrtlprnft> try disabling AIs?
11:48 <philippeqc> i know this map works in 0.3, but crashes
11:48 <philippeqc> in the ai code
11:48 <wrtlprnft> hmm
11:48 <wrtlprnft> lemme find the fix
11:50 <wrtlprnft> #last --with svn.source
11:50 <armabot> wrtlprnft: [11:34:01] <philippeqc> wrtlprnft: svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/branches/ ed
11:50 <wrtlprnft> gah
11:50 <wrtlprnft> #last --with viewcvs
11:50 <armabot> wrtlprnft: [10:06:29] <wrtlprnft> http://svn.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.cgi/armagetronad/www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases_filter.php?r1=5545&r2=5544&pathrev=5545
11:51 <wrtlprnft> #last --from luke-jr_ --with viewcvs
11:51 <armabot> wrtlprnft: [09:55:53] <luke-jr_> http://svn.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.cgi/armagetronad?rev=777&view=rev
11:52 <wrtlprnft> philippeqc: http://svn.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.cgi/armagetronad?rev=4182&view=rev
11:52 <wrtlprnft> that's the one
11:52 <philippeqc> wrtl: yesterdays' problem was nvidia drivers related. I updated some packages and needed to re-install them.
11:52 <wrtlprnft> ah
11:54 <philippeqc> Nice
11:54 <philippeqc> should we consider this prob as closed?
11:55 <wrtlprnft> which one? the nvidia one or the AI crash one
11:55 <philippeqc> and let weird axis maps be a feature of 0.3
11:55 <philippeqc> not nvidia, AI
11:55 <wrtlprnft> if the crash still happens on 0.2.8 backport the fix
11:56 <wrtlprnft> it should never crash because of axes
11:56 <philippeqc> I made a concept map, show it to ed, it crashed his version (
11:56 <wrtlprnft> uh
11:56 <wrtlprnft> if it's the AI crash it won't crash the client if the server runs a fixed version
11:56 <philippeqc> the map isnt really worth it. It is just a concept one.
11:57 <wrtlprnft> it's a crash, the crash should be fixed
11:57 <wrtlprnft> that was one of the first days i had CVS access, i didn't know i was supposed to fix it on the trunk
11:57 <wrtlprnft> err
11:57 <wrtlprnft> didn't know i was supposed to fix it in the branch
11:58 <philippeqc> lol, wrtlprnft I really dont see it as a problem
11:59 <philippeqc> works fine without any AI.
11:59 <wrtlprnft> then it's probably that crash
12:00 <philippeqc> it is, I followed the segfault ;)
12:00 <philippeqc> (sorry, forgot to mention that)
12:10 <philippeqc> How does one search the commit messages in svn? I'm trying to figure where did z-man fix some of the network message for the axes (I guess it must be trunk)
12:10 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r5559 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tron/gAIBase.cpp:
12:10 <armabot> armagetronad: Backported crashfix, sorry for any merge conflicts this might cause.
12:10 <joda_bot> philippeqc: if you followed it add a bug report to source forge and perhaps add a //TODO Fix fix bug x ?
12:10 <armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
12:10 <armabot> armagetronad:  r4182 | wrtlprnft | 2006-03-18 17:29:08 +0100 (Sat, 18 Mar 2006) | 3 lines
12:10 <armabot> armagetronad:  Fixed a segfault that occured with custom axes and AIs.
12:10 <armabot> armagetronad:  this is not an optimal solution, but it's better than a crash (the AIs might be more stupid than usual, but I didn't notice anything)
12:11 <wrtlprnft> philippeqc: svn log src/tron/gAIBase.cpp | gvim - ;)
12:11 <wrtlprnft> and then i searched for wrtlprnft to find my (few) changes for that file
12:12 <philippeqc> wrtlprnft: that will search for the AI bug, not the fix for the network messages z-man might (or not, I'm not sure) have done
12:12 <philippeqc> joda_bot: not sure I understand you.
12:12 <wrtlprnft> then say svn log | gvim -
12:13 <wrtlprnft> and then search for something like "network mess"
12:13 <philippeqc> sheesh! 5555 log entries ;) so much fun
12:13 <philippeqc> I'll do that
12:13 <wrtlprnft> well
12:13 <wrtlprnft> you can pipe it through head -n 1000
12:13 <wrtlprnft> if you aren't interested in old stuff
12:14 <wrtlprnft> and it won't give you 5555 log entries
12:14 <wrtlprnft> far less if you do it on a branch
12:15 <joda_bot> philippeqc: does not matter if it's already fixed ;)
12:15  * joda_bot loves Eclipses SVN GUI ;)
12:16 <philippeqc> 0 hits for "[Aa]x[ie]s" in head -n 1000 :(
12:16 <philippeqc> 1 hit for network
12:16 <wrtlprnft> ksvn is nice, too, but i figured that most dayly things i can do faster on the command line
12:17 <philippeqc> wait, the most recent message is dated 05-29
12:17 <philippeqc> d'oh
12:17 <joda_bot> I can browse the history, get the last editor of a line, and get diffs for a version on click (which I can selectively copy to the current workspace file)
12:22 <philippeqc> z-man have you commited any fix of the network messages for strange axes?
12:23 <wrtlprnft> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
12:23 <wrtlprnft> r4927 | z-man | 2006-06-17 16:29:33 +0200 (Sat, 17 Jun 2006) | 1 line
12:23 <wrtlprnft> Fixed AI crash when axes have the wrong sense of rotation.
12:24 <wrtlprnft> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
12:24 <wrtlprnft> r4933 | z-man | 2006-06-18 09:29:31 +0200 (Sun, 18 Jun 2006) | 1 line
12:24 <wrtlprnft> Adapted network syncing for anticyclic driving directions.
12:24 <philippeqc> weird!!! 
12:24 <philippeqc> I dont even have those messages
12:24 <wrtlprnft> uh
12:24 <joda_bot> wrtlprnft: question is on which branches the fix was made ;)
12:24 <wrtlprnft> svn log src | head -n 1000 | g -
12:25 <wrtlprnft> that was my command in branch 0.2.8
12:25 <wrtlprnft> and it's a while ago, so i assume it's in the trunk now
12:26 <philippeqc> checking in 0.3.0, not finding it there
12:26 <wrtlprnft> no, won't be
12:27 <philippeqc> searching in my big checkout of all branches found it :)
12:27 <wrtlprnft> branch 0.3.0 was started on Wed Jun 14 07:54:29 2006 UTC (2 weeks, 4 days ago)
12:28 <joda_bot> philippeqc: I fixed a log ai crash on branch0.3.0 or trunk (not sure)
12:28 <joda_bot> z-man did the initial fix though
12:28 <philippeqc> ok! it seem yours, z-man and wrtlprnft fixes remove crashes from 0.3.0 as I never experienced it, and tried the map with 3 AI.
12:29  * philippeqc have to learn to read svn log with many branches are involved.
12:29 <wrtlprnft> how long until
12:30 <joda_bot> z-man's fixes have been on 0.2.8 
12:31 <wrtlprnft> philippeqc: did the crash with your map disappear now?
12:31 <wrtlprnft> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=4211
12:31 <wrtlprnft> - The score difference criterion for declaring a winner from the bug cries thread (apparently, people consider wins when teams are tied closely a bug). 
12:31 <wrtlprnft> - Adapting the kick statistics for autobans to whole subnets to better handle dynamic IP abusers; If a client comes from a subnet many kicks have been issued against, he'll inherit the kick statistics. He won't be banned right away, but when he gets kicked, he's banned for a while. (Relying on the fact that 80% of griefers on dynamic IP don't know they can change their IP by just logging out and in, or that they don't do that because it would interrupt their filesharing). This is a social bugfix.
12:32 <wrtlprnft> those 2 are still missing AFAIK :(
12:35 <philippeqc> compiling 0.2.8
12:37 <z-man> Yes, those two are missing still. Today is "Death to Lag!" day, so they'll stay undone for a while.
12:37  * z-man tries to make Lagfarm an actually usable server
12:39 <philippeqc> wrtlprnft: fixed, thanks for the back port
12:40 <wrtlprnft> .)
12:40 <wrtlprnft> * :)
12:40  * wrtlprnft can't even type a smiley .(
12:41 <philippeqc> cyclop smiley
12:42 <wrtlprnft> ::)
12:42 <philippeqc> ;:)
12:42 <wrtlprnft> ,)
12:42 <philippeqc> :;)
12:42 <philippeqc> double blinking
12:42 <wrtlprnft> cyclop blinking smiley ,)
12:50 <philippeqc> yippy! I've succesfully tried my wacky map on a dedicated server with 3 bots.
13:04 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/philippeqc/fortress/TheRatRace-2.aamap.xml: Resource by philippeqc
13:14 <armabot>  Executed 'aabetaupdate'
13:14 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r5560 /www/beta/trunk/maint-info/README: hm... umask changed on Gentoo?
13:20 <luke-jr_> philippeqc: it must not be fortress ;)
13:20 <luke-jr_> philippeqc: SP mode is too broken for fortress
13:21 <philippeqc>  lol, dont check this one
13:21 <philippeqc> check -0.0.1.aamap.xml
13:21 <luke-jr_> in particular, it spawns enemies as if they were teammates
13:21 <luke-jr_> ...
13:22 <philippeqc> this I made broken to try if the network proto supported weird axes
13:22 <philippeqc> and I found an error with efaces
13:22 <philippeqc> so I wanted to investigate it more
13:23 <luke-jr_> philippeqc: BTW, wrtl's sphere idea is mostly a rendering matter
13:23 <philippeqc> depends on the motion you decide to support on the sphere
13:23 <luke-jr_> to implement its physics, we just need to have a speed multiplier based on how far from the edge of a plane
13:24 <luke-jr_> presuming normal 4 axis anyhow
13:24 <philippeqc> IIRC, there are many "normal 4 axis" for a sphere
13:24 <luke-jr_> but only one when you look at the plane =p
13:25 <luke-jr_> z-man: how was the latency on that vserver a while back?
13:31 <philippeqc> ok, got the bug in a recording ;) 
13:32 <philippeqc> I'll start investigating as soon as I've posted it
13:40 <wrtlprnft> philippeqc: your rat race map is fun :D
13:41 <philippeqc> hehe thanks
13:41 <wrtlprnft> oh, yeah, and i do get these warnings too, i talked to z-man about it, he told me to just ignore them
13:41 <philippeqc> hope you'r not taking the #2
13:41 <philippeqc> o ok, thanks for the tips, was ready to invest some time into looking for that prob
13:42 <philippeqc> bbl, a friend is here
13:42 <wrtlprnft> cya
13:42 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_: thanks for the account on aabeta
13:46 <spidey> O_o
13:47 <spidey> 3 axis owns
13:47 <wrtlprnft> 3?
13:47 <wrtlprnft> 2 rocks
13:47 <spidey> yes
13:47 <wrtlprnft> look at philippeqcs' map
13:47 <spidey> never played 2
13:47 <wrtlprnft> * philippeqc's
13:47 <spidey> but 3 was awesome
13:48 <wrtlprnft> play 1 axis!
13:49 <wrtlprnft> that's where the fun starts. then you can use the brake button for control
13:49 <spidey> O_o
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13:49 <philippeqc> 2 axis: you can play with a single key. 
13:50 <wrtlprnft> +brake
13:50 <philippeqc> yep
13:50 <spidey> a 3 axis fortress would be fun
13:50 <philippeqc> yes, for a 3 team configuration
13:50 <wrtlprnft> 3 axis- 3 teams :D
13:50 <spidey> it's like zig/zag
13:50 <philippeqc> its very mentally strange, as turning always give you a "backward" direction
13:51 <spidey> actually
13:51 <spidey> if you double bind
13:51 <spidey> like both ways really fast
13:51 <spidey> it's like going a long way then turning back
13:51 <spidey> but there's lines in the middle
13:52 <philippeqc> spidey: MAP_FILE philippeqc/fortress/TheRatRace-0.0.1.aamap.xml 
13:53 <philippeqc> dont forget to disable the AI before you start
13:53 <spidey> lol
13:53 <philippeqc> if you dont have 0.3, the ai will crash your game.
13:53 <spidey> i need to hook the router back up
13:53 <philippeqc> ?
13:53 <spidey> i unplugged it for the ladle cause it makes me lag
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13:54 <wrtlprnft> still lost :P
13:54 <madmax|pt> hello
13:54 <philippeqc> hi
13:54 <wrtlprnft> hi madmax|pt 
13:54 <spidey> lol
13:54 <spidey> wrtlprnft started as a 3person team and made it to the finals :p
13:54  * wrtlprnft didn't start at all
13:55  * wrtlprnft certainly never made it to the finals
13:55  * spidey chokes wrtlprnft 
13:55  * wrtlprnft thinks spidey is weird
13:55 <spidey> lol
14:00 <spidey> argh
14:00 <spidey> stupid burner
14:00 <spidey> software crashes after i get a 500mb mp3 list
14:00 <wrtlprnft> pfft
14:01  * spidey can fit 100+ songs on a cd
14:14 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: o.O;; nothing recent
14:15 <luke-jr_> songs or sound effects?
14:15 <spidey> songs
14:15 <luke-jr_> bs =p
14:16 <spidey> no
14:16 <spidey> i can
14:16 <spidey> on a normal cd
14:16 <spidey> my stereo plays data disks
14:16 <spidey> so i can fit 750mb worth of songs on 1 cd
14:16 <spidey> and listen to it on my stereo
14:17 <spidey> just burn as a data disk and not a audio disk
14:17 <luke-jr_> then why does your burning software care about a MP3 list?
14:17 <spidey> it doesn't
14:17 <spidey> it cares about the size
14:17 <spidey> hence the crash
14:17 <spidey> :p
14:17 <luke-jr_> ...
14:18 <luke-jr_> 500 mb isn't much
14:18 <spidey> yea,but it doesn't think like that,obviously
14:19 <luke-jr_> so use some good software
14:19 <luke-jr_> like k3b
14:19 <spidey> i don't feel like installing another one :/
14:20 <luke-jr_> lazy
14:20 <spidey> atleast not right now
14:20 <spidey> i just woke up :p
14:20 <spidey> Can't establish connection --> ftp.www.fallin-angels.com:21 @ Sun Jul 02 07:20:37 2006   (11004-100)
14:20 <spidey> The requested name is valid and was found in the database, but it does not have the correct associated data being resolved for.  
14:20 <spidey> gaaaaaaaaah
14:21 <luke-jr_> https://shipit.kubuntu.org/
14:21 <luke-jr_> wtf?
14:21 <luke-jr_> um
14:21 <luke-jr_> you do know ftp.www.fallin-angels.com doesn't exist?
14:21 <luke-jr_> just ftp.fallin-angels.com
14:21 <spidey> no
14:21 <spidey> it does
14:21 <spidey> cpanel fucks with the apache config
14:21 <luke-jr_> DNS says it doesn't =p
14:22 <spidey> even my email's admin@www.fallin-angels.com
14:22 <luke-jr_> ...
14:22 <luke-jr_> that's so broken
14:22 <luke-jr_> I'd complain
14:22 <spidey> that's so cpanel
14:24 <luke-jr_> I'd complain
14:24 <luke-jr_> that's so broken
14:24 <spidey> that's so cpanel
14:26  * wrtlprnft hates places where he has to type in www for a http:// adress
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14:29 <armabot>  Executed 'aabetaupdate'
14:29 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5561 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases.php: Added 0.3.0
14:30 <wrtlprnft> :)
14:31 <z-man> Seems to work :
14:31 <z-man> )
14:31 <wrtlprnft> so what will 0.3.1 have? A formula parser, a new zone concept with moving zones and different behaviours, a few new gauges, what else?
14:31 <z-man> Whatever is ready by the time we want to make it.
14:32 <wrtlprnft> well, my question is, when is the time we want to make it? ;)
14:33 <z-man> I'd be for one release every two or three months.
14:33 <wrtlprnft> hmm, ok
14:33 <wrtlprnft> I'd better hurry if i wanna have this in there )
14:33 <wrtlprnft> * :)
14:34 <z-man> luke-jr_: latency on the vserver was absolutely in the same league as on bugfarm. 30ms of ping measured from the PC bugfarm runs on.
14:35 <wrtlprnft> heh, i love having 50ms of ping on bugfarm now
14:35 <spidey> lol
14:35 <spidey> just don't turn into another zop :p
14:36 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/arma/screenshot_404.png
14:36 <wrtlprnft> look at the ping meter in the upper right corner!
14:36 <spidey> heh
14:37 <wrtlprnft> (i died because of that screenshot)
14:37 <spidey> pwned
14:37  * spidey lags in morning time
14:37 <spidey> i think this rain problem is getting worse
14:37 <wrtlprnft> getting more rain?
14:38 <spidey> no
14:38 <spidey> the dew
14:38 <spidey> in mornings
14:38 <spidey> i think it's starting to make me lag to
14:38 <wrtlprnft> maybe your neighbour is watering his garden?
14:38 <spidey> ummmm
14:38 <spidey> dude
14:38 <spidey> i don't have neighbours....
14:38 <wrtlprnft> hmm
14:39 <spidey> closest person to me is 3/4 mile away
14:39 <joda_bot> luke-jr_: you can try armagetron.nixda.net's server it also runs a vserver
14:39 <spidey> and that's a small store
14:39 <joda_bot> luke-jr_: afaik
14:39 <wrtlprnft> #g 3/4 miles in km
14:39 <armabot> (3/4) miles = 1.207008 kilometers
14:40 <wrtlprnft> #g three quarters of a mine in kilometers
14:40 <armabot> Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
14:40 <wrtlprnft> #g three quarters of a mile in kilometers
14:40 <armabot> (three quarters) of (1 mile) = 1.207008 kilometers
14:40 <wrtlprnft> wow
14:40 <spidey> ?
14:40  * wrtlprnft wants google's formula parser for arma
14:41 <spidey> lol
14:49  * madmax|pt Not Here.
14:52  * wrtlprnft Not Where madmax|pt IS
14:52 <wrtlprnft> *Is
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15:11 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: experimental releases don't get feature plans =p
15:11 <luke-jr_> z-man: so latency was good?
15:12 <luke-jr_> joda_bot: I get ~144 ms pings there
15:12 <spider_> lucky
15:12 <luke-jr_> ...
15:12 <spider_>  i het a 160-170 ping 2 days after it rains,lol
15:12 <spider_> get*
15:12 <luke-jr_> 144 ms ping is kinda high
15:13 <spider_> no it's not
15:13 <luke-jr_> to where?
15:13 <spider_> fortress?
15:13 <luke-jr_> what IP is that?
15:13 -!- spider_ is now known as spidey
15:13 <spidey> what ip?
15:13 <luke-jr_> ...
15:13 <spidey> i didn't post a ip...
15:13 <luke-jr_> well, I can't tell you my ping to it w/o an IP =p
15:13 <spidey> what are you talking about?
15:13 <spidey> llol
15:13 <madmax|pt> o_O
15:14  * spidey is confused
15:15 <luke-jr_> ...
15:15 <spidey> max,you know what he's talking about?
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15:16 <luke-jr_> ping <IP>
15:16 <luke-jr_> IP goes there
15:16 <spidey> i ment my ping in fortress
15:16 <spidey> bugfarm
15:16 <spidey> lol
15:17 <luke-jr_>
15:17 <spidey> ?
15:17 <wrtlprnft> pings in arma are usually higher than real pings
15:17 <luke-jr_> boo
15:17 <luke-jr_> it filters pings
15:17 <spidey> lol
15:17 <wrtlprnft> i know
15:17 <luke-jr_> that is SO RFC violating
15:17 <spidey> RFC ?
15:17  * wrtlprnft goes to his router setup
15:17 <luke-jr_> spidey: internet rules
15:17 <wrtlprnft> #wtf is rfc
15:17 <armabot> wrtlprnft: RFC: request for comments
15:17 <spidey> lol
15:17  * wrtlprnft enables "ignore pings on WAN"
15:18 <wrtlprnft> just to annoy luke-jr_ 
15:18 <spidey> i block pings....
15:18 <spidey> icmp is disabled O_o
15:18 <luke-jr_> spidey: that's bad
15:18 <spidey> and it will remain that way too :p
15:18 <luke-jr_> anyone could kick you offline if you block pings
15:18 <luke-jr_> ping is how DHCP checks if an address is in use
15:18 <spidey> i can ping people
15:19 <spidey> but people can't ping me
15:19 <spidey>
15:19 <luke-jr_> but if the DHCP server can't ping you, it will assume you don't exist
15:19 <spidey> my ip
15:19 <luke-jr_> and give anyone who asks for that IP to them
15:19 <luke-jr_> *and give that IP to anyone who asks it for it
15:19 <spidey> first
15:20 <spidey> i live  in tennessee
15:20 <luke-jr_> so?
15:20 <spidey> no one in this area is that smart...if they are they're on dialup anyways
15:20 <luke-jr_> you presume they need to be smart, or even do it intentionally ;)
15:20 <spidey> meh
15:20 <luke-jr_> if they had that IP months ago and haven't logged in since, their system will ask for that same IP again
15:21 <luke-jr_> and since nobody is using it, they will get it
15:21 <luke-jr_> and so long as you ignore pings, you are nobody
15:21 <spidey> i'll remain a nobody :)
15:21 <spidey> haven't had problems 
15:21 <luke-jr_> I hope you do >:O
15:22 <luke-jr_> actually, I wouldn't be surprised if you *did* have problems, and just blamed them on the ISP or ignored them
15:22 <spidey> and i don't have a static ip so it changes anyways
15:22 <luke-jr_> and just restarted the modem or something
15:22 <wrtlprnft> spidey changes his IP every 5 minutes since he gets banned from everywhere anyways
15:22 <luke-jr_> spidey: more likely for a conflict
15:22 <luke-jr_> lol
15:22 <spidey> lol
15:22 <spidey> i haven't changed my ip in a bit tyvm :p
15:23 <spidey> only when i get kicked from fortress for retarded reasons
15:23 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Drashia/fortress/speed_theater-0.1.0.aamap.xml: Resource by Drashia
15:23 <spidey> like not shuffling so zop can doublebind
15:23  * luke-jr_ 's client ignores DOUBLEBIND_TIME :)
15:24 <luke-jr_> j/k, I don't bother since nobody uses it
15:25 <wrtlprnft> spidey: by kicking you they have already archieved what they wanted :S
15:25 <wrtlprnft> an i think it's weird they kick you since there's 2 others that could do the same
15:29 <spidey> well
15:29 <spidey> if i like my spot
15:29 <spidey> and i'm not defending
15:29 <spidey> i'm not giving it up to a doublebinder
15:30 <wrtlprnft> i love the first 3 spots for defending
15:30 <spidey> yea
15:30 <spidey> i like defending from center
15:30 <wrtlprnft> me too
15:30 <spidey> but people say "defending from center is impossible"
15:30 <wrtlprnft> ...
15:30 <spidey> bah,it's best place if you know how
15:30 <wrtlprnft> they just never notice people do it ;)
15:31 <spidey> it can also stop center attacks
15:31 <spidey> if you turn back the right way
15:31 <wrtlprnft> it gives you lotsa speed and gives you time to look what's happening and choose a side to defend first
15:31 <spidey> yea
15:32 <spidey> but with the map i can tell which wing fails
15:32 <wrtlprnft> and if you turn late enough you don't cost your team any speed
15:32 <spidey> then i cut across the zone,seal the part i started on...and restart on that side
15:33 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Drashia/fortress/speedTheater-0.1.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Drashia
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16:45 <G5_Ger> Hi all
16:47 <spidey> hi
17:09 <madmax|pt> hi G5
17:37 <Lackadaisical> sabarai is making the dutch people look like fools on the forums :(
17:39 <wrtlprnft> lol
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17:47 <G5_Ger> max: The trouble with a low ping is eg. during grind start. Im on the outside. On my screen Im the FIRST to break. I go right/left for a while. All seems ok. Then the server tells my client that the guy in front of me also turned. And he has a bad ping, what means that my turn was too late. My bike jumps back to the corner and I'm dead. Wow. What did I do wrong? I say nothing. What should I do in future? Right! I have to react t
17:49 <wrtlprnft> that's ping charity
17:49 <wrtlprnft> watch his lagometer and it won't happen :P
17:50 <wrtlprnft> z-man-home: for the above, would there a way to have a separate ping charity for teammates and enimies?
17:50 <z-man-home> No
17:50 <wrtlprnft> hmm ok
17:50  * wrtlprnft doesn't even know exactly how ping charity works
17:51 <z-man-home> Ping charity modifies the timer, you can either give to everybody or nobody.
17:52 -!- z-man-home is now known as z-man
17:59 <madmax|pt> timer?
17:59 <G5_Ger> I know it is ping charity and I agree ping charity is neccessary to make the game more fair. All I want to say is that it is as hard to play with a very ping as it is with a very low (or the lowest) ping.
18:00 <G5_Ger> Following the lagometer during the fortress start grind would mean not to grind at all. :-)
18:03 <wrtlprnft> low ping is way easier once you get used to having less rubber
18:03 <G5_Ger> z-man: Is the ping charity value the average or is it an offset?
18:04 <madmax|pt> whats the extra rubber formula?
18:05 <spidey> baaaaaaah
18:06  * spidey doesn't like the 4th or before and after
18:06 <spidey> i have to be around people O_o
18:06 <madmax|pt> huh?
18:06 <G5_Ger> Ok,  I admit I have my troubles with low rubber ...
18:07 <spidey> low rubber = the pwn
18:07 <spidey> i can't typw "teh" :/
18:07 <spidey> stupid text correct thingy
18:12 <wrtlprnft> haha
18:17 <wrtlprnft> madmax|pt:             effectiveness *= ( max + player->ping * sg_rubberCyclePing )/max;
18:17 <wrtlprnft> and sg_rubberCyclePing is set to 3 by default, it seems
18:19 <G5_Ger> g2g. Bye
18:19 <wrtlprnft> cya
18:19 <madmax|pt> hmm
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18:20 <wrtlprnft> and max is the rubber
18:21 <wrtlprnft> so with 300 ms of ping and 5 rubber you'd get:
18:21 <wrtlprnft> #g (5 + .3 * 3)/5
18:21 <armabot> (5 + (.3 * 3)) / 5 = 1.18
18:21 <wrtlprnft> 1.18 times your normal rubber
18:21 <wrtlprnft> #g 5 * 1.18
18:21 <armabot> 5 * 1.18 = 5.9
18:22 <wrtlprnft> that makes for a way easier doublebind against a wall at normal speed
18:22 <madmax|pt> thanks, i always wondered how that formula would be
18:22 <wrtlprnft> me too :)
18:22 <wrtlprnft> just fished it out of the code
18:38 <madmax|pt> just noticed there's a XCode project file for the source
18:38 <madmax|pt> cool :)
18:40 <wrtlprnft> no clue if it's up to date
18:52 <spidey> O_o
18:53 <spidey> tron froze o_O
18:54 <wrtlprnft> got a backtrace?
19:00 <spidey> um
19:00 <spidey> i accidently started 2 clients
19:00 <spidey> one minimized and one opened
19:00 <spidey> so i  closed the opened one and started playing on the minimized one
19:01 <spidey> went to "Internet" and it froze
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19:17 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5562 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tron/gCycleMovement.cpp: Moved acceleration calculation into core timestep. That's the only way to awoid differences in brake application over the network.
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19:21 <wrtlprnft> i love armabot :)
19:21 <wrtlprnft> as long as it posts good commit messages, that is :(
19:27 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5563 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/engine/ePlayer.cpp: (log message trimmed)
19:27 <armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.3.0 from revision 5546 to 5562:
19:27 <armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
19:27 <armabot> armagetronad:  r5555 | wrtlprnft | 2006-07-01 16:46:59 +0200 (Sat, 01 Jul 2006) | 2 lines
19:27 <armabot> armagetronad:  rebeautified and removed debug output, sorry
19:27 <armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
19:27 <armabot> armagetronad:  r5554 | wrtlprnft | 2006-07-01 16:18:29 +0200 (Sat, 01 Jul 2006) | 3 lines
19:34 <spidey> <spidey> that's obvious
19:34 <spidey> <jpgnode> I think you may be retarded
19:34 <spidey> <spidey> i am
19:34 <spidey> <spidey> i'm in this mental home you see
19:34 <spidey> <spidey> and well...without a computer i go nuts
19:34 <spidey> <spidey> so nuts they can't handle me
19:34 <spidey> <spidey> so they let me use the computer at the front desk
19:40 <spidey> http://www.zone-h.org/content/view/13787/30/
19:41 <spidey> gay
19:41  * spidey slaps the us embassy
19:53 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5564 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/bootstrap.sh: Removed changing of executable bit of install-sh, which is a symlink to a system file (I thought I already did that, twice...)
20:00 <joda_bot> z-man: three branches :-P ... 0.3 trunk and 0.2.8 ;)
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20:14 <Brooky> Hi all
20:16 <joda_bot> hi Brooky
20:25 <madmax|pt> hi Brooky
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20:46 <luke-jr_> bye ph
20:49 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5565 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (12 files in 5 dirs): (log message trimmed)
20:49 <armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 5545 to 5563:
20:49 <armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
20:49 <armabot> armagetronad:  r5562 | z-man | 2006-07-02 19:17:27 +0200 (Sun, 02 Jul 2006) | 1 line
20:49 <armabot> armagetronad:  Moved acceleration calculation into core timestep. That's the only way to awoid differences in brake application over the network.
20:49 <armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
20:49 <armabot> armagetronad:  r5559 | wrtlprnft | 2006-07-02 12:10:39 +0200 (Sun, 02 Jul 2006) | 7 lines
20:51 <wrtlprnft> z-man: hope you had no trouble with that backport
20:51 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5566 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
20:51 <armabot> armagetronad: Added prototypes for lag compensation functions so they can be integrated in the Windows/Mac projects before they're actually used.
20:51 <armabot> armagetronad: Splitted libenginecore.a from libengine.a with the files that use most of the CPU time; they can be compiled with optimizations even if the rest of the code is in debug mode.
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20:52 <z-man> No, it didn't make trouble.
20:52 <wrtlprnft> :)
20:52 <wrtlprnft> i was thinking about removing it from the trunk and then putting it into the branch
20:55 <z-man> No, that would have been a very bad idea :)
20:55 <z-man> SVN usually ignores identical changes, but I don't know what it does if you change something, change it back, then try to merge the change.
20:56 <z-man> (besides, joda and lucifer produced horrible merges in normal operation, a simple backport does not frighten me :) )
20:56 <wrtlprnft> ok :)
20:57 <luke-jr_> z-man: Could you perhaps see about merging MCPAttack to 0.2.8 branch?
20:57 <luke-jr_> last time I tried, I had trouble for some reason
20:57 <z-man> How does the mod work?
20:58 <luke-jr_> oh, it's quite hacking-- it needs to stay outside the tree =p
20:58 <z-man> do you have to activate it with some -D
20:58 <luke-jr_> hackish*
20:58 <luke-jr_> eg, in private
20:58 <z-man> Oh, you want to merge the last changes in 0.2.8 to MCPAttack.
20:58 <luke-jr_> right
20:58 <luke-jr_> well
20:58 <luke-jr_> MCPAttack is based on
20:58 <luke-jr_> the branch
20:59 <z-man> You know what I think about merging from a main development branch to some private branch?
20:59 <z-man> Ekk, is still CVS based :(
21:00 <luke-jr_> ?
21:00 <z-man> That means all the management stuff still assumes it can access CVS. Version generation, ChangeLog...
21:01 <luke-jr_> ah
21:01 <z-man> What was the last revision you merged?
21:01 <z-man> Or didn't you merge at all until now?
21:01 <luke-jr_> r4751 | luke-jr | 2006-06-04 12:24:35 +0000 (Sun, 04 Jun 2006) | 148 lines
21:01 <luke-jr_> Merge up to rev 4747, branch
21:02 <luke-jr_> which IIRC is beyond the last change in branch
21:03 <joda_bot> z-man want me to update branch 0.2. to new code::blocks system ?
21:03 <joda_bot> 0.2.8
21:04 <z-man> No!
21:04 <joda_bot> ok 
21:04 <joda_bot> :)
21:04 <joda_bot> just asking :)
21:04  * luke-jr_ hangs joda_bot 
21:04 <z-man> hehe
21:04  * luke-jr_ undoes all joda_bot's commits
21:04  * joda_bot died  :)
21:04 <luke-jr_> >:p
21:05 <z-man> luke-jr_: could you pass me the filepath to mcp? Too lazy to dig it out :)
21:06 <luke-jr_> private/luke-jr/MCPAttack
21:06 <luke-jr_> I think
21:06 <luke-jr_> https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/private/luke-jr/MCPAttack/armagetronad
21:06 <luke-jr_> minus the last part for build etc
21:07 <wrtlprnft> http://svn.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.cgi/armagetronad/tools/griddraw/trunk/ <-- what's this?
21:08 <wrtlprnft> smells like plainC- code :(
21:08 <luke-jr_> oh that was fun
21:08 <luke-jr_> it was how I made my earlier maps
21:09 <luke-jr_> it lets me code in cycle movement ;)
21:09 <luke-jr_> it supports output to either gArena code or XML =p
21:10 <wrtlprnft> o_O
21:10 <wrtlprnft> can you improve it to a real map editor?
21:10 <luke-jr_> haha
21:10 <luke-jr_> no
21:10 <wrtlprnft> :(
21:10 <luke-jr_> you make maps using C
21:10 <luke-jr_> it's mainly a C library
21:10 <luke-jr_> but without the stuff a real library needs
21:10 <wrtlprnft> o_O
21:10 <luke-jr_> so you do like
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21:10 <luke-jr_> startat(0,0)
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21:11 <luke-jr_> forward(1)
21:11 <luke-jr_> turn(1)
21:11 <luke-jr_> forward(1)
21:11 <wrtlprnft> some thing like KTurtle?
21:11 <wrtlprnft> *something
21:11 <luke-jr_> the power being that you can do for loops =p
21:11 <luke-jr_> for (int i=0; i< 4; ++i)
21:11 <luke-jr_> never heard of it
21:12 <wrtlprnft> if you have kdeedu installed you have it
21:12 <luke-jr_> but basically, I didn't want to calculate my own angles, nor enter the same wall in a different position twice or more
21:12 <luke-jr_> don't think I do
21:13 <luke-jr_> I use KDE from Svn
21:13 <luke-jr_> and only keep a few modules of it
21:13 <wrtlprnft> sec
21:13 <luke-jr_> if I were to write a map maker, it would simply convert PNM or such to a map
21:14 <luke-jr_> or more likely svn
21:14 <luke-jr_> svg*
21:14 <luke-jr_> since I'm not sure how raw image would do spawns ;)
21:19 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/kturtle.png
21:19 <wrtlprnft> you just need xml output for it :P
21:25 <madmax|pt> jeez, i once "played" with a similar thing in DOS
21:30 <luke-jr_> wow
21:30 <luke-jr_> what practical use does that program have?
21:31 <wrtlprnft> uh, for little kids to learn programming?
21:31 <wrtlprnft> the package it's in is called "kdeedu"...
22:20 <Lucifer_arma> I never could figure out the turtle thing (kturtle is based on a much older program)
22:22 <wrtlprnft> ?
22:22 <wrtlprnft> is that so hard?
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22:32 <Lucifer_arma> no, I mean, when I was a kid trying to play with the turtle, I couldn't figure out how to make it do stuff
22:32 <Lucifer_arma> so I just reset the computer and used basic and keyboard graphics to do the things the program was intended for
22:34 <wrtlprnft> O_o
22:34 <wrtlprnft> #last --from wrtlprnft --with o_O
22:34 <armabot> wrtlprnft: [15:34:42] <wrtlprnft> O_o
22:34 <wrtlprnft> #last --from wrtlprnft --with O_o
22:34 <armabot> wrtlprnft: [15:35:02] <wrtlprnft> #last --from wrtlprnft --with o_O
22:34 <wrtlprnft> gah case- insensitive :(
22:36 <wrtlprnft> hmm, since armabot was last restarted i used o_O 10 times and O_o 2 times
22:37 <wrtlprnft> looks like i need to use O_o more
22:37 <wrtlprnft> O_o
22:42 <luke-jr_> O_o = 70
22:42 <luke-jr_> o_O = 135
22:42 <luke-jr_> o.o = 684
22:42 <luke-jr_> O.O = 21
22:44 <Brooky> whats with the random stats
22:44 <Brooky> lol
23:09 <wrtlprnft> hmm, my homedir over NFS doesn't seem to cause any serious trouble yet...
23:10 <[Xpert]DarkStar> homedir over nfs 0o
23:11 <wrtlprnft> tho i wonder what will happen when i enable it on my notebook
23:11  * [Xpert]DarkStar remembers trying to do that on 10 mbit lan
23:11 <wrtlprnft> especially what happens if i temporarily leave WLAN area
23:11 <wrtlprnft> well, it's wlan
23:11 <[Xpert]DarkStar> eww
23:12 <wrtlprnft> speed shouldn't be a problem
23:13 <wrtlprnft> i can replace all cache dirs by symlinks somewhere else
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23:19 <[Xpert]DarkStar> night everyone
23:19 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #night
23:19 <armabot> Good night [Xpert]DarkStar!
23:21 <wrtlprnft> night [Xpert]DarkStar 
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23:24 <Lucifer_arma> I never had a problem using my homedir over nfs
23:25 <Lucifer_arma> even playing video files was fine
23:25 <Lucifer_arma> that's even with a 10mb wlan card on a laptop :)
23:25 <Lucifer_arma> I found the cpu on the server limited the transfer rates more than the network speed
23:29 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5567 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/tron/gAIBase.cpp src/tron/gGame.cpp): Added removed, auto-generated files to ignore list.
23:35 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: what happens to kde and co if you go out of wlan range for a minute? Do they continue to work until you access something, do they freeze and contunue later, or do they crash?
23:35 <Lucifer_arma> freeze, nfs calls are blocking.  It's disaster.
23:36 <Lucifer_arma> I wouldn't recommend doing it over wlan.  :)  Instead, mount up your homedir as a neutral directory somewhere.
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23:36 <Lucifer_arma> Then you might rsync to it from your laptop's homedir or something like that, I don't know.  I'm curious what you come up with, I'd like to do the same thing here.
23:36 <Lucifer_arma> but I take my laptop out of wlan range quite frequently
23:42 <wrtlprnft> so you aren't using NFS?
23:42 <Lucifer_arma> not now, no
23:42 <Lucifer_arma> this was awhile back, when my server was a 450mhz k6-2
23:43 <wrtlprnft> yeah, if the file list wasn't that huge... a rsync usually takes about 10 minutes just to build the filelist
23:43 <wrtlprnft> that's 6 arma build dirs, 10000 files of opera's mail DB, and some other stuff
23:43 <Lucifer_arma> I want a daemon that runs all the time and watches two directories for changes, so when a change is made, the maximum time for it to propogate is like 100ms
23:43 <wrtlprnft> I'll try sometime, let's see what'll happen
23:44 <wrtlprnft> that would be better in the kernel IMHO
23:44 <wrtlprnft> isn't unionfs supposed to do something like that?
23:44 <Lucifer_arma> whether it would be better there or not, afaik it's not there, and I'm not hacking the kernel :)
23:44  * Lucifer_arma doesn't know anything about unionfs
23:45  * Lucifer_arma is considering writing such a daemon a ways after his budget program is working
23:46 <wrtlprnft> uh, tell me when you have something workable :)
23:46 <Lucifer_arma> could be months :)
23:47 <wrtlprnft> :(
23:47 <Lucifer_arma> see, I've made the database for my budget program a directory tree instead of a flat file, where a transaction is a single file on disk
23:47 <spidey> mmmm
23:47 <Lucifer_arma> accounts are directories with files that describe them, and so forth
23:48 <spidey> didn't i say i might leave mbc if micro raises the rubber high enough for bugs to show again?
23:48 <Lucifer_arma> so I should get multi-user access for free, just have to watch when I save a transaction that already exists that it hasn't been changed
23:48 <Lucifer_arma> but I'd like some way to mirror the database, and more importantly, some way to watch for changes in the database and have them propogate automatically to the gui
23:49 <Brooky> g2g 2 bed guys
23:49 <Brooky> cya
23:49 <wrtlprnft> cya
23:49 <Lucifer_arma> 'night Brooky 
23:49 <Brooky> bye
23:49 <wrtlprnft> isn't that was mysql is for?
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23:50 <Lucifer_arma> yes?  but a personal finance program needs to be self-contained
23:50 <wrtlprnft> tru
23:50 <wrtlprnft> e
23:50 <Lucifer_arma> there may eventually be a mysql backend for it, I don't know, I don't really need it
23:51 <Lucifer_arma> I'm not trying to scale to n users, just to 2 :)
23:51 <Lucifer_arma> and there's a lot of extra database management that nobody does, afaik, and mysql doesn't provide.
23:51 <Lucifer_arma> like what happens if someone breaks into your computer and changes a bunch of stuff?  How do you find out what they did and restore?
23:52 <wrtlprnft> you don't if you don't have a safe backup somewhere else

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00:25 <wrtlprnft> anyone wanna join me on Bugfarm Deathmath?
00:27 <spidey> ?
00:27 <spidey> deathmath?
00:28 <wrtlprnft> yeah, deathmath
00:28 <wrtlprnft> server lis
00:28 <wrtlprnft> t
00:29 <madmax|pt> deathmath!?
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00:45 <Luke-Jr> wrtlprnft: eh?
00:57 <madmax|pt> its nice
00:57 <madmax|pt> deathmatch with spawn
00:57 <madmax|pt> pretty cool
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01:27 <spidey> suicide fest!
01:27 <ghableska> ?
01:27  * wrtlprnft is thinking about a race server with respawn
01:27 <wrtlprnft> the objective would be to reach the zone as often as possible in 2 minutes
01:27 <spidey> i had over 80 suicides
01:27 <ghableska> o_O
01:27 <spidey> didn't i wrtl xD
01:27 <spidey> that's in one round
01:28 <spidey> less than 10 minutes
01:28  * spidey smacked the wall O_o
01:28 <wrtlprnft> great archivement. humankind will thank you
01:30 <ghableska> btw, how did the ladle go?
01:30  * wrtlprnft notes this is easier archived with SIZE_FACTOR -10000
01:32 <wrtlprnft> what i don't like about this server is that you don't get any time for chatting
01:32 <madmax|pt> thats good
01:33 <wrtlprnft> there should be a button you have to press to respawn
01:33 <madmax|pt> like UT!
01:33 <wrtlprnft> like bzflag!
01:33 <madmax|pt> nooo, like UT!!!
01:34 <wrtlprnft> noooooooo, like bzflag!
01:34 <madmax|pt> noooooooooooooo, like UT!!!!
01:34 <wrtlprnft> noooooooooooooooooooooo, like bzflag!
01:34 <ghableska> o.0
01:34 <madmax|pt> No. Just exactly like UT.
01:35 <wrtlprnft> then program it
01:35  * wrtlprnft never played UT
01:35 <madmax|pt> wow
01:35 <madmax|pt> how could you?
01:35 <cusco> respawn sounds good! I thought about that before!
01:35 <cusco> its so boring when you die.. and just stay waiting
01:36 <wrtlprnft> cusco: try it on Bugfarm Deathmatch
01:36 <cusco> waiting... wating ... waiting ... zzzz
01:36  * wrtlprnft never watched the movie tron
01:36 <madmax|pt> Capture the flag, domination, bombing run!
01:36 <madmax|pt> me neither... 
01:36 <wrtlprnft> armaflag?
01:36 <madmax|pt> its bad, cause i wanted to
01:36 <wrtlprnft> bztron?
01:36 <madmax|pt> yeah
01:37 <cusco> wrtlprnft: nobody there
01:37 <cusco> anybody wanna join?
01:37 <madmax|pt> there was once i actually tried bzflag
01:37 <madmax|pt> not that bad
01:37 <wrtlprnft> ghableska: go join BF Deathmatch :P
01:37 <wrtlprnft> very, very badly programmed
01:37 <cusco> weird stuff!!
01:38 <cusco> and your tail grows slowly!!
01:38 <ghableska> wrtlprnft: I tried it
01:38 <ghableska> it's...interesting
01:38 <wrtlprnft> ah okl
01:38  * wrtlprnft is too tired to join
01:39 <ghableska> the last time Z-Man had a server like that, I found myself outside the arena ;)
01:39 <cusco> hehe I was trying that
01:39 <cusco> you crash
01:39 <ghableska> yeah :(
01:40 <ghableska> it was fun going around outside :D
01:40 <wrtlprnft> ghableska: go to my race server, it has a hole
01:40 <ghableska> at the end?
01:40 <wrtlprnft> yes
01:40 <spidey> luke has a map with a hole
01:40 <ghableska> yeah, but I never can make it there :P
01:40 <spidey> on both sides
01:40 <spidey> lol
01:40 <wrtlprnft> to save space and allow the HUD minimap to be bigger
01:40 <wrtlprnft> and not have people dying after reaching the zone
01:41 <ghableska> I usually go around in circles by the word "Start"
01:41 <ghableska> :P
01:41 <wrtlprnft> start?
01:41 <spidey> wanna goto the race server?
01:41 <wrtlprnft> i thought it said RACE...
01:41 <ghableska> :-/
01:41  * ghableska just got back from a trip
01:41 <ghableska> and I'm a little tired :P
01:41 <wrtlprnft> where to?
01:41 <ghableska> Minneapolis
01:42  * wrtlprnft just got back from a trip, too
01:42 <ghableska> fun?
01:42 <wrtlprnft> 10 months of fun :)
01:42 <ghableska> ;)
01:42 <ghableska> long trip
01:42 <wrtlprnft> yeah
01:42 <madmax|pt> no1 @ bugfarm fort? o_O
01:42 <ghableska> did they have the steaming towels? :P
01:42 <wrtlprnft> no
01:43 <ghableska> I got those at a restaurant :P
01:43 <wrtlprnft> o_O
01:43 <wrtlprnft> there were hot towels on the plane tho
01:46 <spidey> support
01:47 <wrtlprnft> ?
01:47 <spidey> dunno where that came from
01:47 <spidey> lol
01:47 <ghableska> sssssssssssssssssssssupport
01:47 <ghableska> gah
01:47 <spidey> i think i've finally drank more water than my stomach can hold :/
01:47 <ghableska> why?
01:47 <spidey> cause it's freakin hot
01:47 <ghableska> still too warm?
01:47 <spidey> and cold water helps keep me cool
01:48 <ghableska> would've fried the bugs, right?
01:48 <spidey> i mean cold to the point half of it's water
01:48 <spidey> and half is ice
01:48 <ghableska> o_O
01:48 <wrtlprnft> well then the other half is water
01:48 <ghableska> cold..
01:48 <spidey> i asid that
01:48 <mkzelda> test
01:48 <ghableska> :P
01:48 <spidey> t
01:48 <spidey> e
01:48 <spidey> s
01:48 <spidey> t
01:48 <wrtlprnft> t
01:48 <wrtlprnft> s
01:48 <wrtlprnft> e
01:48 <wrtlprnft> t
01:48 <spidey> l
01:48 <spidey> o
01:48 <spidey> l
01:49 <mkzelda> awesome
01:49 <wrtlprnft> l
01:49 <wrtlprnft> e
01:49 <madmax|pt> o_O
01:49 <wrtlprnft> t
01:49 <wrtlprnft> '
01:49 <wrtlprnft> s
01:49 <wrtlprnft>  
01:49 <mkzelda> 2 diff computers
01:49 <wrtlprnft> j
01:49 <wrtlprnft> u
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01:50 <ghableska> oops
01:50 <madmax|pt> i think i'll grep this shit later
01:50 <ghableska> m
01:50 <wrtlprnft> haha
01:50 <spidey> haha
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01:50 <wrtlprnft> haga!
01:50 <spidey> o
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01:50 <mkzelda> =l
01:50 <ghableska> l
01:50 <mkzelda> =o
01:50 <mkzelda> =l
01:50 <mkzelda> =e
01:50 <spidey> lmao
01:50 <mkzelda> =r
01:50 <mkzelda> =s
01:50 <ghableska> =+
01:50 <mkzelda> =k
01:50 <mkzelda> =a
01:50 <mkzelda> =t
01:50 <mkzelda> =e
01:50 <mkzelda> =s
01:50 <ghableska> =^
01:51 <ghableska> brb
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01:51 <madmax|pt> this is better than the vertical writing tool
01:51 <spidey> s
01:52 <mkzelda> I never knew my bnc supported simultaneous connections to the same user
01:52 <wrtlprnft> #wtf is bnc
01:52 <mkzelda> but here i am using a diff machine this sentence
01:52 <armabot> wrtlprnft: bnc: nothing appropriate
01:52 <spidey> +bnc
01:52 <spidey> irc proxy
01:52 <mkzelda> BouNCe
01:52 <spidey> from a shell
01:52 <spidey> to a irc server
01:53 <spidey> baically a gateway
01:53 <mkzelda> i dont use it on a shell tho, just throw it on my primary server so that i can reboot and keep my session open
01:53 <mkzelda> like screen
01:53 <wrtlprnft> ah
01:53 <wrtlprnft> i use screen for that :D
01:55 <mkzelda> what is the svn equiv to cvs up -d ?
01:56 <wrtlprnft> i think -d is supposed to be automatic now
01:56 <mkzelda> okay
01:56 <wrtlprnft> if you're missing a file that's because you miss boost
01:56 <mkzelda> i dont have a configure script after bootstrap
01:56 <wrtlprnft> weird
01:56 <wrtlprnft> should have
01:57 <mkzelda> is the crash i was having on launch gone yet?
01:57 <wrtlprnft> uh, try it?
01:57 <wrtlprnft> no clue what crash that was
01:57 <mkzelda> hard to w/o configure
01:58 <wrtlprnft> uh, no clue what's wrong with that
01:58 <wrtlprnft> new checkout maybe?
01:58 <mkzelda> well i got no error, but it crashed after audio initialized, strace said something about floor.png
01:58 <mkzelda> just did
01:59 <mkzelda> luci said to blame you i think
01:59 <mkzelda> haha
01:59 <wrtlprnft> reason?
01:59 <mkzelda> scapegoat?
01:59 <wrtlprnft> ?
01:59 <mkzelda> :D
01:59 <mkzelda> maybe he was blaming ppl w/ names starting w/ w
02:00 <wrtlprnft> w/ pleasure somewone w/ w thinks
02:00 <mkzelda> just playin, he said it was something u did and showed the diff
02:00 <mkzelda> as a possibility
02:01 <wrtlprnft> and what was that?
02:01 <mkzelda> may not have been that commit
02:01 <mkzelda> i wish i still had the url
02:01 <wrtlprnft> #last --from Lucifer_arma --with http --with viewcvs
02:01 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 48815 messages.
02:01 <wrtlprnft> #last --from Lucifer_arma --with http
02:01 <armabot> wrtlprnft: [16:27:23] <Lucifer_arma> http://streams.davefancella.com:8000/
02:01 <wrtlprnft> #last --from Lucifer_arma --with http --nolimit
02:01 <armabot> wrtlprnft: [16:27:23] <Lucifer_arma> http://streams.davefancella.com:8000/, [15:04:34] <Lucifer_arma> http://streams.davefancella.com:8000/, [21:53:33] <Lucifer_arma> http://streams.davefancella.com:8000/  :), [16:25:27] <Lucifer_arma> http://streams.davefancella.com:8000/  <-- can anybody connect to this with a web browser?, [15:31:46] <Lucifer_arma> http://streams.davefancella.com:8000/  <-- can (3 more messages)
02:01 <wrtlprnft> #more
02:01 <armabot> wrtlprnft: anybody connect to this with a web browser?, [15:18:19] <Lucifer_arma> http://streams.davefancella.com:8000/  <-- can anybody connect to this with a web browser?, [13:30:45] <Lucifer_arma> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Servers&diff=9941&oldid=9881, [17:01:07] <Lucifer_arma> when you go to http://localhost do you get a web page?, [16:42:25] <Lucifer_arma> (2 more messages)
02:01 <wrtlprnft> #more
02:01 <armabot> wrtlprnft: http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html  <--- the longer version of the link wrtlprnft already gave you for xampp :), [16:14:03] <Lucifer_arma> http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn.advanced.props.html#svn.advanced.props.special.keywords, [16:04:19] <Lucifer_arma> http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/network/sswww.htm  <--- here is a very simple webserver, [19:00:34] (1 more message)
02:01 <mkzelda> it was a week-2 ago
02:02 <wrtlprnft> ah
02:02 <wrtlprnft> thought that was while i was away
02:03 <mkzelda> still no configure :(
02:03 <mkzelda> new checkout only snagged one file, ePlayer.cpp
02:03 <wrtlprnft> that's the trunk?
02:04 <wrtlprnft> no errors?
02:04 <mkzelda> no errors
02:06 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.pastebin.ca/77403
02:12 <mkzelda> hrm
02:12 <mkzelda> started from scratch to test...
02:12 <wrtlprnft> didn't work?
02:12 <mkzelda> configure:1506: error: possibly undefined macro: _AC_SRCPATHS
02:12 <mkzelda>       If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow.
02:13 <mkzelda> on bootstrap, after Running autoconf...
02:14 <mkzelda> i didnt get that before
02:14 <mkzelda> and its the same revision 5567
02:15 <wrtlprnft> hmm
02:15 <wrtlprnft> no clue, ask z-man
02:16 <Luke-Jr> blame mkzelda 
02:16 <mkzelda> yay!
02:16 <mkzelda> heh
02:16 <mkzelda> blame canadia
02:17 <wrtlprnft> blame the usa
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02:17 <mkzelda> what were u talking about 'missing boost' earlier?
02:17 <wrtlprnft> that's a missing header if you didn't install boost
02:17 <ghableska> HELLO WRTLPRNFT
02:17 <ghableska> :P
02:18 <wrtlprnft> HELLO GHABLESKA
02:18 <Luke-Jr> who here uses cable internet?
02:18 <wrtlprnft> me
02:18 <ghableska> me
02:18 <wrtlprnft> rocks
02:18 <wrtlprnft> spidey does AFAIK
02:18 <Luke-Jr> can I run a nice little script on your system? :)
02:18 <mkzelda> all your mac address are belong to luke
02:18 <wrtlprnft> err
02:18 <spidey> mmm
02:18 <spidey> sure
02:18 <wrtlprnft> if i get to read and understand the script?
02:18 <Luke-Jr> well, you could read it I guess
02:18 <Luke-Jr> but understand it isn't that simple
02:19 <Luke-Jr> :)
02:19 <mkzelda> give me lots of scripts to test that i wont read and understand and I will run them indiscrimenantly
02:19 <spidey> Luke-Jr, on my system?
02:19 <Luke-Jr> spidey: you use windoze
02:19 <spidey> yar
02:19 <Luke-Jr> spidey: so you can't run scripts
02:19 <mkzelda> sploit me
02:19 <spidey> lol
02:19 <Luke-Jr> mkzelda: nah, it wouldn't do much to you
02:19 <spidey> i had mepis installed
02:19 <spidey> once upon a time
02:19 <Luke-Jr> had is past tense
02:19 <spidey> not sure why i uninstalled it
02:19 <spidey> but i'm putting slackware on this one
02:20 <spidey> when i'm unlazy
02:20 <spidey> O-o
02:20 <wrtlprnft> that is, never?
02:20 <spidey> tron does support slackware right? O_o
02:20 <Luke-Jr> wrtlprnft: basically, here's what it does
02:20 <Luke-Jr> it scans 10.*.*.* for port 80s
02:20 <Luke-Jr> and then
02:20 <Luke-Jr> browses to those port 80s
02:20 <Luke-Jr> and extracts useful info
02:20 <wrtlprnft> uh, so I'm gonna ran a portscanner?
02:21 <spidey> why not 198,*,*,*
02:21 <wrtlprnft> *run
02:21 <Luke-Jr> it scans a single port, but other than that, I guess
02:21 <Luke-Jr> what's wrong with a portscanner?
02:21 <spidey> and since you put it htat way
02:21 <Luke-Jr> spidey: 198.*.*.* doesn't have modems
02:21 <spidey> it wouldn't work for me either :p
02:21 <spidey> umm
02:21 <spidey> yes it does
02:21 <wrtlprnft> uh, i can tell you the IP of my modem...
02:21 <Luke-Jr> wrtlprnft: so?
02:21 <spidey> my modem address is 198,162.1.100
02:21 <Luke-Jr> this scans *all* modems in your subnet
02:21 <spidey> so it does have 198 :)
02:22 <Luke-Jr> spidey: that's its LAN address
02:22 <spidey> yea
02:22 <Luke-Jr> ok, let me rephrase
02:22 <Luke-Jr> it goes out and gets the modem MAC addresses of every cable modem in your city
02:22 <spidey> O_o
02:22 <mkzelda> all your mac address are belong to luke
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02:22 <ghableska> hi Vanhayes
02:22 <spidey> mmm
02:22 <mkzelda> someone wants to steal some cable
02:23 <spidey> hehe
02:23 <Vanhayes> hey ghableska
02:23 <wrtlprnft> HELLO VANHAYES
02:23 <Luke-Jr> mkzelda: nah, probably will never be in their area, or I'd scan myself
02:23 <Vanhayes> HELLO wrtlprnft
02:23  * wrtlprnft feels so mean
02:23 <Luke-Jr> just collecting MACs and stuff for fun
02:23 <Vanhayes> how was your flight?
02:23 <wrtlprnft> long
02:23 <Luke-Jr> Vanhayes: he lost it
02:23 <wrtlprnft> long waiting times
02:23 <mkzelda> i thot u'd want to use a mac addy anywhere but the area you find it
02:24 <wrtlprnft> and no buisness class this time :(
02:24 <Luke-Jr> mkzelda: you can only use it in the same area
02:24 <cusco> mkzelda: 
02:24 <cusco> mkzelda: mkzelda mkzelda 
02:24 <Luke-Jr> just so long as it isn't *too* close
02:24 <cusco> I had the same problem
02:24 <Vanhayes> heh had to fly coach?
02:24 <ghableska> :P
02:24 <mkzelda> w/ bootstrap?
02:24 <wrtlprnft> economy
02:24 <mkzelda> cusco: with bootstrap or with starting game
02:24 <cusco> zman told me to coment a line on the configure.ac file
02:24 <cusco> the lane that reads m4_include(accustomdir.m4)
02:24 <cusco> with bootstrap
02:24 <Luke-Jr> >:O
02:25 <Luke-Jr> don't comment my custom dir!
02:25 <Luke-Jr> =p
02:25 <wrtlprnft> hahahaHAHAhahahHAHAhahahaaaaa!
02:25 <cusco> soory
02:25 <mkzelda> what do i need your custom dir for
02:25 <ghableska> o_O
02:25 <cusco> err
02:25  * ghableska prods wrtlprnft
02:25 <cusco> I did comment out that one
02:25 <Luke-Jr> mkzelda: so you can do --docdir
02:25 <Luke-Jr> and such
02:25 <cusco> else it wouldn't bootsrap
02:25 <mkzelda> oh
02:25 <mkzelda> if i actually used it, would that make the err go away possibly?
02:25 <Luke-Jr> because
02:25 <Luke-Jr> autoconf is LAME
02:25 <Luke-Jr> and doesn't allow custom dirs on its own
02:25 <wrtlprnft> because
02:25 <mkzelda> or, wait i cant use bootstrap to get to configure
02:25 <mkzelda> so nm
02:26 <wrtlprnft> Luke-Jr is LAME :D
02:26 <cusco> Luke-Jr: so how should I do? 
02:26 <cusco> you shouldn't use autoconf to start with :P (even tho I can't support the argument)
02:26 <Luke-Jr> cusco: um, figure out why accustomdir doesn't work for you and fix it
02:26 <wrtlprnft> well then, where's your script?
02:26 <Luke-Jr> cusco: we just switched to autoconf, shoulda told us before that
02:26 <Luke-Jr> wrtlprnft: on my computer
02:27 <mkzelda> commenting that fixed it for me
02:27 <cusco> mkzelda: for me too
02:27 <cusco> :)
02:27 <wrtlprnft> Luke-Jr: well, we need to work out a way to move the script from my computer to your computer
02:27 <wrtlprnft> err
02:27 <Luke-Jr> wrtlprnft: scp?
02:27 <spidey> argh
02:28 <spidey> ok,i'm unlazy enough to install nix.....but i've got no blank cd's :/
02:28 <wrtlprnft> excuses
02:28 <Luke-Jr> lol
02:28 <spidey> no
02:28 <wrtlprnft> Luke-Jr: so, where's the file?
02:28 <spidey> seriously
02:28 <Luke-Jr> spidey: shipit?
02:28 <spidey> i don't
02:28 <mkzelda> use lots of floppies
02:28 <spidey> hahaha
02:28 <wrtlprnft> wrtlprnft@hachi ~ $   
02:28 <spidey> i think not
02:28 <Luke-Jr> wrtlprnft: on my computer =p
02:28 <spidey> i got 3 floppies :p
02:28 <Luke-Jr> in my private dir
02:28 <wrtlprnft> move it somewhere where i can get it=
02:29 <wrtlprnft> ?
02:29 <spidey> ohhh
02:29 <spidey> i can access my other ntfs drive right O_o
02:29 <spidey> from linux :/
02:30 <wrtlprnft> get a better documented file system
02:30 <spidey> bah
02:30 <spidey> you're crazy if you think i'm gonna format that drive
02:30 <spidey> just to use exc3
02:30 <Luke-Jr> wrtlprnft: push
02:30  * wrtlprnft suggests to just drop it out of the window
02:30 <spidey> no
02:30 <Luke-Jr> spidey: ext3 > NTFS
02:30 <spidey> maybe so
02:31 <wrtlprnft> wrtlprnft@hachi ~ $ ls /home/luke-jr/push
02:31 <wrtlprnft> ls: /home/luke-jr/push: No such file or directory
02:31 <spidey> but i've got 70gigs of stuff i wanna keep on that drive :)
02:31 <wrtlprnft> get another drive?
02:31 <Luke-Jr> spidey: backup?
02:31 <spidey> yes it's my backup drive
02:31 <Luke-Jr> wrtlprnft: no, no... <.<
02:31 <Luke-Jr> #wikipedia push
02:31 <mkzelda> get rid of it all anyways
02:31 <Luke-Jr> #wtf
02:31 <Luke-Jr> stupid bot
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02:32 <wrtlprnft> To push something is to move it by the application of force. Although depending on context, push may have many other meanings.
02:32 <wrtlprnft> good to know
02:32 <Luke-Jr> to push as opposed to pulling
02:32 <wrtlprnft> In older distributions of Linux push is a command to start an Internet connection. It has mostly been replaced by dhcpd.
02:33 <spidey> mmmm
02:33 <Luke-Jr> ...
02:33 <Luke-Jr> wrtlprnft is playing dumb
02:33 <wrtlprnft> so how are you gonna <.< push >.> the script to me?
02:33 <spidey> watch me fuck this up again
02:34 <spidey> last time i had a 70gig backup i accidently formatted the wrong drive 
02:34 <spidey> :/
02:34 <wrtlprnft> as long as you don't do both...
02:34 <mkzelda> unplug the backup temp and u wont have to worry about that
02:34 <spidey> um
02:34 <spidey> seriously i would
02:35 <spidey> but there's way to much shit to move to take the side off
02:35 <wrtlprnft> disable it in BIOS?
02:35 <spidey> ah,yes
02:35 <wrtlprnft> don't disable the wrong drive...
02:35 <spidey> hold on....putting everything else i want on the drive
02:35 <mkzelda> spidey: next time im late / dont feel like going to work/school/whatever commitment, ill consult you for excuses
02:35 <spidey> lol
02:35 <spidey> i probably will
02:36 <spidey> umm
02:36 <mkzelda> disable the drive in bios
02:36 <spidey> i usually use "i'm sick" for those things
02:36 <wrtlprnft> boring
02:36 <spidey> i wonder if i can use a dvd -r to install
02:36 <spidey> cause i seriously got no extract cd -rs
02:36 <mkzelda> yes you can
02:36 <spidey> extra
02:37 <spidey> k good
02:37 <spidey> i got 20 of them
02:37 <spidey> heh
02:37 <wrtlprnft> "my hamster just ate my cat that before ate my homework, so i had to bury the hamster since its stomach exploded and couldn't come to school"
02:37 <mkzelda> if your burning app doesnt insist on using cdrs for the iso, for some reason
02:37 <Luke-Jr> wrtlprnft: scp
02:37 <spidey> i can burn dvd's
02:37 <wrtlprnft> sc- Push?
02:38 <spidey> but it likes to crash on a 500mb mp3 list
02:38 <wrtlprnft> well, i can't give anyone an account on that machine
02:38 <wrtlprnft> my network isn't safe enought for that
02:38 <spidey> lahl
02:38 <Luke-Jr> well how am I gonna run it? =p
02:38 <spidey> wait 40 minutes?
02:38 <Luke-Jr> spidey: you're a different network, LOL
02:38 <wrtlprnft> well, the plan was that you give it to me and tell me how to run it
02:38 <wrtlprnft> and then i run it
02:39 <Luke-Jr> wrtlprnft: oh, well... that doesn't quite work when I half expect problems running it
02:39 <wrtlprnft> hmm
02:39 <wrtlprnft> i can report the problems
02:40 <spidey> oh yea
02:40 <spidey> gotta wait 28 minutes before i can do anything O_o
02:40 <spidey> got a 205mb file downloading
02:40 <wrtlprnft> that takes 28 minutes?
02:40 <spidey> no
02:40 <spidey> but when the person i'm downloading off of has a 45kb/s upload it does
02:41 <Luke-Jr> wrtlprnft: ok... DCC then? =p
02:41 <wrtlprnft> #wtf is ddc
02:41 <armabot> wrtlprnft: DDC: display data channel
02:41 <Luke-Jr> #wtf is dcc
02:41 <Luke-Jr> lame bot
02:41 <Luke-Jr> it should die
02:41 <Luke-Jr> for ignoring me
02:41 <wrtlprnft> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Display_Data_Channel
02:42 <Luke-Jr> DCC not DDC
02:42 <wrtlprnft> ah
02:42 <wrtlprnft> #wtf is dcc
02:42 <armabot> wrtlprnft: dcc: nothing appropriate
02:42 <Luke-Jr> DCC - Direct client-to-client
02:42 <Luke-Jr> aka IRC file transfer
02:42 <Luke-Jr> =p
02:43 <wrtlprnft> i know
02:43 <spidey> need a choice
02:43 <wrtlprnft> uh
02:43 <wrtlprnft> won't work :(
02:43 <spidey> what flavor should i install this time?
02:43 <Luke-Jr> spidey: Lfs
02:43  * wrtlprnft suggests scp script.sh beta.armagetronad.net/home/mathias
02:44 <Luke-Jr> wrtlprnft: it's in my home dir
02:44 <Luke-Jr> tell me when you have it
02:45 <mkzelda> so, how do i get this boost
02:45 <Luke-Jr> emerge boost?
02:45 <wrtlprnft> emerge boost
02:45 <mkzelda> great
02:46 <wrtlprnft> Luke-Jr: filename? o_O
02:46 <Luke-Jr> wrtlprnft: cmhack-1.0.1.bz2 or smth
02:46 <mkzelda>  threads recommended?
02:46 <Luke-Jr> mkzelda: threads always good
02:46 <mkzelda> or any use flags
02:46 <mkzelda>  USE="-bcp -bjam -debug -doc -pyste -static -threads -threadsonly" 
02:47 <mkzelda> Luke-Jr, that flag is not supported in boost :/
02:48 <Luke-Jr> [ebuild   R   ] net-analyzer/netcat-110-r8  -GAPING_SECURITY_HOLE +crypt +ipv6 -static 107 kB
02:48 <Luke-Jr> so install netcat
02:50 <wrtlprnft> gone
02:50 <wrtlprnft> *done
02:52 <spidey> mmmm
02:52 <spidey> 7 minutes to download a 697mb iso
02:52 <spidey> O_o
02:52 <spidey> actually 10 minutes
02:52 <spidey> at 1,000 kb/s
02:53 <Luke-Jr> wrtlprnft: ok
02:53 <Luke-Jr> bzip2 -d it
02:53 <wrtlprnft> done already
02:54 <mkzelda> 10 mins to get 600 @ 1,000
02:54 <Luke-Jr> nmap -vv -p 80 '10.64.*.*' 2>&1 | ./cmhack | tee wrtl-20060702.cmhack-out
02:55 <wrtlprnft> empty file
02:55 <Luke-Jr> ...
02:55 <Luke-Jr> oh, might want to change 64 to *
02:55 <Luke-Jr> and it'll take some hours
02:56 <spidey> heh
02:56 <wrtlprnft> after some milliseconds still an empty file
02:56 <spidey> at 500 threads
02:56 <spidey> it'll take 48-72 hours
02:56 <spidey> to scan a entire range
02:57 <wrtlprnft> ah
02:57 <mkzelda> boost ebuild segfaults &*#$
02:57 <wrtlprnft> root@laptop # nmap -vv -p 80 '10.*.*.*'                           /home/mathias
02:57 <wrtlprnft> zsh: command not found: nmap
02:57  * spidey likes bash better
02:57 <mkzelda> heh emerge nmap
02:57  * wrtlprnft hates bash
02:58 <spidey> oh
02:58 <spidey> almost forgot to save my cockpits
02:58 <spidey> O_o
02:58 <Luke-Jr> wrtlprnft: you lack nmap? O.o
02:58 <mkzelda> ya crazy
02:58 <wrtlprnft> upload them to the repository
02:58 <spidey> ?
02:58 <wrtlprnft> and don't worry about deleting anything
02:59 <spidey> huh
02:59 <wrtlprnft> http://resource.armagetronad.net/resource/
02:59 <mkzelda> chicks love the cockpits
02:59 <spidey> hahah
02:59 <wrtlprnft> err
02:59 <spidey> ohhhh
03:00 <spidey> i can dual boot
03:00 <spidey> and not lose anything i forgot O_o
03:00 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/nmap.png
03:00 <wrtlprnft> O_o
03:00 <spidey> lol
03:01 <Luke-Jr> lol
03:01 <Luke-Jr> rwoar
03:02 <wrtlprnft> now it's doing *something*
03:02  * wrtlprnft waits to be blocked out by his router for scanning
03:03 <wrtlprnft> uh, how long's that gonna take approximately?
03:03  * wrtlprnft is tired
03:04 <spidey> lol
03:04 <spidey> i done said
03:04 <Luke-Jr> ?
03:04 <spidey> a full range scan
03:04 <spidey> at 500 threads
03:04 <spidey> 48 to 72 hours
03:04 <Luke-Jr> spidey: it's single threaded
03:04 <spidey> omg
03:04 <spidey> that's gonna take forever
03:04 <Luke-Jr> lol
03:04 <wrtlprnft> i only did 10.64.*.*
03:04 <spidey> still gonna take a bit
03:04 <spidey> #g 254*254
03:04 <spidey> er
03:05 <wrtlprnft> am i the only one here allowed to use armabot?
03:05 <Luke-Jr> lol
03:05 <wrtlprnft> #g 2^16
03:05 <spidey> that's 65.5k ip's
03:05 <armabot> 2^16 = 65,536
03:05 <Luke-Jr> spidey: my latest development code is yet even slower
03:05 <spidey> O_o
03:05 <Luke-Jr> it grabs *all* info from the modems
03:05 <Luke-Jr> including logs
03:05 <wrtlprnft> o_O
03:05 <spidey> wait
03:06 <wrtlprnft> the tee output is pretty empty
03:06 <spidey> so i could rip my modems telnet password with it?
03:06 <Luke-Jr> spidey: no?
03:06 <wrtlprnft> now spidey is interested
03:06 <spidey> yes
03:06 <spidey> i been trying to crack my modems fuckin telnet password forever
03:06 <Luke-Jr> ...
03:06 <Luke-Jr> your modem has telnet?
03:06 <spidey> yea
03:06 <Luke-Jr> O.O
03:06 <spidey> i port scanned it 
03:06 <spidey> it has httpd
03:07 <Luke-Jr> wtf modem is this?
03:07 <spidey> telnet
03:07 <spidey> smpt
03:07 <Luke-Jr> uh
03:07 <Luke-Jr> no modem has smtp
03:07 <spidey> yes it has a mail server
03:07 <spidey> wanna bet? ;)
03:07 <Luke-Jr> ...
03:07 <Luke-Jr> wtf modem is this?
03:07 <spidey> umm
03:07 <spidey> the one charter gives you
03:07 <Luke-Jr> ...
03:07 <Luke-Jr> that could be any modem
03:07 <spidey> scientific atlantic
03:07 <Luke-Jr> oh
03:07 <Luke-Jr> not sure if cmhack supports that
03:08 <spidey> oh
03:08 <spidey> i can get the logs
03:08 <Luke-Jr> It only supports crap on my cable network =p
03:08 <spidey> all i gotta do is unplug the coax
03:08 <spidey> and view it's webpage
03:08 <Luke-Jr> which is mostly Ambit and Webstar
03:08 <spidey> um
03:08 <spidey> it's a webstar port
03:08 <spidey> infact
03:09 <spidey> the webstar website is on the modem page
03:09 <spidey> brb , dogs
03:09 <wrtlprnft> its its its its its its its its its its its its its its its its its its its its its its its its its its its its its its its its its its its its its its its its its its its its its its its its its its its its its its its
03:09 <mkzelda> tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits v
03:09 <ghableska> XD
03:10 <wrtlprnft> not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's
03:13 <wrtlprnft> night
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03:23  * spidey don't think wrtlprnft has the bandwith for that scan
03:23 <spidey> O_o
03:26 <Luke-Jr> spidey: single threaded scans don't use mcuh =p
03:26 <spidey> i know
03:26 <spidey> but he's dropping :p
03:27 <spidey> you know
03:27 <spidey> stealing cable on my isp when you already have services
03:27 <spidey> is worthless
03:27 <spidey> they only have 1 package
03:27 <spidey> that's "slow"
03:27 <spidey> lol
03:27 <Luke-Jr> 1 residential package
03:28 <spidey> 1 package period
03:28 <Luke-Jr> besides, 2 modems doubles your slow speed
03:28 <spidey> well
03:28 <spidey> i have 1 modem and 1 cable line
03:28 <spidey> if i had
03:28 <Luke-Jr> so buy another modem and a cable splitter
03:28 <Luke-Jr> =p
03:28 <spidey> 2 cable lines
03:28 <spidey> and 2 modems
03:28 <spidey> AND
03:29 <spidey> a dual wan router
03:29 <spidey> that combined conenctions
03:29 <spidey> then i'd have double
03:29 <Luke-Jr> get ahold of a WRT54G v4
03:29 <Luke-Jr> or just connect one directly to the PC
03:29 <spidey> but now days most dual wan routers only use the second connection as backup :/
03:29 <spidey> one to the pc
03:29 <spidey> what about the other?
03:30 <Luke-Jr> to wherever it currently goes
03:30 <Luke-Jr> ip route add default equalize nexthop via dev eth0 nexthop via "${gwone}" dev eth1
03:30 <spidey> ok
03:30 <spidey> so 
03:31 <Luke-Jr> I should run a DHCP server on my cable connection =p
03:31 <spidey> first modem > router > second modem > computer you want to have faster speeds 
03:31 <Luke-Jr> start giving random people bad IPs
03:32 <spidey> oh yea....and lucifer was talking about me :p
03:32 <spidey> atleast i told the people there server needed to be updated :p
03:33 <Luke-Jr> lol
03:33 <Luke-Jr> if I told the cable co about all their problems, I'd probably end up in jail just for knowing them since they didn't want to fix em
03:33 <spidey> LOL
03:34 <Luke-Jr> anyway, just because I know *how* to do all this crap, doesn't mean I actually *do* it
03:35 <spidey> YEHAW!
03:38 <spidey> iso will be burned in 7 minutes
03:38 <spidey> O_o
03:38 <spidey> 3 minutes
03:38 <spidey> that's better
03:38 <spidey> 32x
03:39 <spidey> er
03:39 <spidey> still forgot my cockpits
03:39 <Luke-Jr> ...
03:39 <spidey> putting them on my 111gig backup drive
03:40 <Luke-Jr> put em on a floppy
03:40 <Luke-Jr> o_o
03:40 <spidey> don't have any i don't think
03:40 <Luke-Jr> usb stick
03:40 <spidey> nope
03:40 <spidey> just my backup drive :p
03:41  * Luke-Jr watches it crash
03:43 <spidey> :/
03:43 <spidey> bbiab
03:43 <spidey> 15-20 minutes
03:43 <Luke-Jr> sure
03:43 <Luke-Jr> you wish
03:43 <Luke-Jr> =p
03:43 <spidey> ok
03:43 <Luke-Jr> I'll be gone
03:43 <spidey> time me
03:44 <Luke-Jr> maybe
03:44 <spidey> better yet,i'll use my stop watch
03:44 <spidey> O_o
03:44 <Luke-Jr> =p
03:44 <spidey> ok starts when the install starts
03:44 <spidey> bbiab
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03:58 <mkzelda> *sigh* boost just wont build
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04:06 <spidey> pwned
04:06 <spidey> install time was
04:06 <spidey> 13 minutes and 24 seconds
04:07 <spidey> that includes reboots ;]
04:07 <spidey> Linux version 2.6.15-1-586tsc (Debian 2.6.15-3.ww1) (ww@mepis.org) (gcc version 4.0.3 20051201 (prerelease) (Debian 4.0.2-5)) #2 PREEMPT Wed Feb 1 17:40:51 EST 2006
04:07 <spidey>  21:07:41 up 3 min,  1 user,  load average: 0.48, 0.45, 0.19
04:07 <spidey> O_o
04:07 <spidey> Luke-Jr, how long did you think it would take me? :p
04:09 <spidey> er
04:09 <spidey> cat /dev/hda
04:09 <spidey> xd
04:29 <spidey> sweeeeeeeeeeeet
04:29 <spidey> with numlock on
04:29 <spidey> the numpad controls the mouse
04:29 <spidey> O_o
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04:39 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: the crash mkzelda was having I blamed on you because it started right after you made a log entry that said "fixed moviepack floor rendering for my vid card" or something like that
04:39 <free-kill> Is rsync for sf's svn backup failing for anyone else, too?
04:39 <free-kill> (this is nemo)
04:40 <free-kill> "RSYNC_PROXY=rsync-svn.sourceforge.net:80 rsync -a rsync-svn-g::svn/armagetronad/* ." is the command
04:40 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, I don't know
04:40  * Lucifer_arma wonders how he'd even check it
04:40 <free-kill> the example project the give, gaim, works
04:40 <free-kill> they gave*
04:40 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmm
04:41 <Lucifer_arma> rsync -a rsync-svn-a::svn/armagetronad/* /backup/armagetronad/svnrepo
04:41 <Lucifer_arma> that's what I've got
04:41 <Lucifer_arma> ahh, this too, before that
04:41 <Lucifer_arma> export RSYNC_PROXY=rsync-svn.sourceforge.net:80
04:42 <free-kill> Ok, now it's working...
04:42 <Lucifer_arma> you have a g that doesn't belong
04:42 <Lucifer_arma> svn-g::  <--- in there
04:42 <free-kill> Error in their example, oops
04:42 <Lucifer_arma> not if their example is gaim, that's supposed to be the first letter of your project :)
04:42 <free-kill> ahh
04:43 <free-kill> (almost bedtime)
04:55 <spidey> growl
04:55 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, where's xorg.conf stored?
04:55 <spidey> i found xorg.cf but it's not the right one
04:56 <free-kill> locate xorg.conf
04:56 <spidey> did
04:59 <spidey> bah
04:59 <spidey> they renamed it
04:59 <spidey> xserver-xorg.conf
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05:06 <spidey> O_o
05:06 <spidey> reboot!
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05:11 <spidey> 1280x1024 is so much better than 1024x780
05:30 <spidey> hey Luke-Jr ?
05:34 <spidey> 1024x768spidey@1[~]$ locate armagetron
05:34 <spidey> locate: warning: database `/var/cache/locate/locatedb' is more than 8 days old
05:34 <spidey> spidey@1[~]$ armagetron
05:34 <spidey> bash: armagetron: command not found
05:34 <spidey> O_o
05:35 <free-kill> isn't it armagetronad?
05:35 <free-kill> unless you're running
05:35 <spidey> yea but it should locate it anyways
05:35 <spidey> it searches for anything with "armagetron" in it
05:35 <spidey> spidey@1[~]$ locate Self_Destructo
05:35 <spidey> locate: warning: database `/var/cache/locate/locatedb' is more than 8 days old
05:35 <spidey> spidey@1[~]$ locate Anonymous
05:35 <spidey> locate: warning: database `/var/cache/locate/locatedb' is more than 8 days old
05:35 <spidey> bah
05:36 <spidey> all i want is the resource file so i can put my cockpits in it :/
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05:38 <spidey> i found the settings file
05:38 <spidey> but no resource file :/
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05:40 <Lucifer_arma> resources are in PREFIX/share/games/armagetronad-dedicated/resource
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> however
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> you should put the ones you make in ~/.armagetronad/resource/automatic (or wherever it is)
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> and make sure you conform to the filepath spec :)
05:48  * spidey doesn't like konqueror
06:02 <spidey> gah @ remote desktop client not working
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06:43 <Vanhayes> #night
06:43 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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08:50 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r5568 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/README-Subversion: test commit for SVK testing
08:53 <free-kill> now I just have to figure out how to use SVK.
08:59 <joda_bot> http://woop.dnsalias.com/trounce.html
08:59 <joda_bot> Just found this one ;)
09:00 <joda_bot> Lucifer_arma: z-man: wrtlprnft: and perhaps someone likes this one ? http://graphics.cs.uni-sb.de/SaarCOR/
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11:33 <Lucifer_arma> #dict balance
11:33 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: easton, wn, bouvier, gcide, and moby-thes responded: gcide: Balance \Bal"ance\, v. i. 1. To have equal weight on each side; to be in equipoise; as, the scales balance. [1913 Webster] 2. To fluctuate between motives which appear of equal force; to waver; to hesitate. [1913 Webster] He would not balance or err in the determination of his choice. --Locke. [1913 Webster] 3. (41 more messages)
12:02 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Drashia/fortress/speedTheater-0.1.2.aamap.xml: Resource by Drashia
12:12 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Drashia/fortress/speedTheater-0.1.3.aamap.xml: Resource by Drashia
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12:25 <joda_bot> #msg guru3* you still want to blame luke in the topic ;)
12:26 <joda_bot> guru3:  you still want to blame luke in the topic ;)
12:26 <Luke-Jr> ./
12:39 <Lucifer_arma> yay, my budget program now shows transactions and totals the accounts
12:39 <Lucifer_arma> just need to add budgeting and it's ready for use :)
12:39 <Luke-Jr> KSpread?
12:40 <Lucifer_arma> no, it's a program
12:44 <guru3> joda_bot: luke has never said otherwise
12:48 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Drashia/fortress/football-0.1.2.aamap.xml: Resource by Drashia
12:52 <Lucifer_arma> the question to answer after I wake up is "Should budget be a separate object from account?  If so, what is their relationship?"
12:52 <Lucifer_arma> 'night (morning, really)
13:12 <joda_bot> #msg nemo* http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=61811#61811
13:12 <joda_bot> #alias
13:12 <joda_bot> ...
13:12 <joda_bot> ok
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13:14 <Brooky> Hi guys
13:17 <Brooky> what is port 79 used for?
13:18 <madmax|pt> finger
13:18 <madmax|pt> according to the ports.txt i have here
13:19 <Brooky> what is that?
13:19 <madmax|pt> IRC> CTCP Finger
13:19 <Brooky> but, what does it do?
13:22 <madmax|pt> Software that allows you find out more information about an Internet user, such as their real name and if they are logged in at the present moment.
13:22 <madmax|pt> didnt quite remember
13:24 <Brooky> Ok
13:25 <Brooky> right, i have a problem with armagetron
13:25 <Brooky> i have set keys to turn
13:25 <wrtlprnft> #morning
13:25 <Brooky> but the maximum that work at a time is 2
13:25 <armabot> Good Morning wrtlprnft Random Fortune:  Nothing succeeds like the appearance of success. || -- Christopher Lascl
13:26 <wrtlprnft> Luke-Jr: Luke-Jr 
13:26 <Brooky> hi wrtl
13:26 <wrtlprnft> Modem: Unknown (MD5 178178331f564dc684b16de0cab55a24)
13:26 <wrtlprnft> Modem: Unknown (MD5 178178331f564dc684b16de0cab55a24)
13:26 <wrtlprnft> Modem: Unknown (MD5 178178331f564dc684b16de0cab55a24)
13:26 <wrtlprnft> Modem: Unknown (MD5 178178331f564dc684b16de0cab55a24)
13:26 <wrtlprnft> that's it
13:26 <madmax|pt> Brooky, only two working is good =P
13:27 <guru3> madmax|pt: that's not exactly what ctcp fingering is
13:27 <Brooky> what is it then?
13:28 <guru3> good question
13:28 <guru3> but it's not a guarenteed way to find out someone's name
13:28 <guru3> that's for sure
13:28 <Brooky> ok
13:28 <Brooky> how could
13:28 <madmax|pt> wait, that was kind of obvious?
13:28 <Brooky> it get their name anyway
13:30 <madmax|pt> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=define%3Afinger&btnG=Google+Search
13:32 <Brooky> ok
13:36 <joda_bot> #help
13:36 <armabot> joda_bot: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
13:36 <joda_bot> ah it's back
13:36 <joda_bot> #help msg
13:36 <armabot> joda_bot: Error: There is no command "msg".
13:37 <joda_bot> #help message
13:37 <armabot> joda_bot: (message <an alias, 2 arguments>) -- Alias for "later tell $1 $2".
13:37 <joda_bot> #msg does this result in an erro
13:38 <Brooky> looks like it
13:38 <Brooky> lol
13:39 <wrtlprnft> spidey|sleep: the HUD map bug on BF Deathmap seems to be fixed in the trunk/future 0.3.1
13:39 <Brooky> i think hes asleep
13:39 <Brooky> lol
13:42 <wrtlprnft> if his irc client is any good it'll appear in his awaylog
13:42  * wrtlprnft pats IRSSI
13:42 <Brooky> #wtf is IRSSI
13:42 <armabot> Brooky: IRSSI: nothing appropriate
13:42 <wrtlprnft> but since he isn't even marked away i doubt it will work
13:43 <wrtlprnft> #wikipedia IRSSI
13:43 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Search took 0.30 seconds: Irssi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irssi>; User:Aphrael Runestar/colourtextrep.pl - Wikipedia, the free ...: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Aphrael_Runestar/colourtextrep.pl>; Wikipedia:Scripts - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Scripts>; User:Aphrael Runestar/textrep.pl - (2 more messages)
13:44 <Brooky> Ok
13:44 <Brooky> i get what it is now
13:45 <Brooky> is it any good?
13:45 <armabot> armagetronad: yarrt * r5569 /armagetronad/branches/0.3.0/winlibs/win32/code_blocks/SDL_mixer.cbp: SDL_SURROUND is not required (already defined in headers)
13:45 <Brooky> what does it mean when armabot say things like that?
13:46 <joda_bot> Brooky: that I (yarrt/joda_bot) commited a change to the armagetron source ode
13:46 <joda_bot> code
13:47 <Brooky> ok
13:47 <joda_bot> in this case .. I just updated a project file ;)
13:47 <Brooky> which was....
13:49 <Brooky> how is the version 0.3
13:49 <Brooky> is it still buggy?
13:49 <wrtlprnft> #wtf is FTW
13:49 <armabot> wrtlprnft: FTW: nothing appropriate
13:49 <Brooky> lol
13:55 <Brooky> g2g
13:55 <Brooky> bye
13:59 <madmax|pt> cya
14:10 <madmax|pt> have you guys thought about doing something on the chatbot intelligence?
14:10 <madmax|pt> like, make it *not* turn against walls?
14:11 <madmax|pt> and yes, i also agree on the "play, not chat", but its usefull sometimes
14:11 <wrtlprnft> yeah, I'd really like it not to do *really* stupid things
14:12 <wrtlprnft> but it shouldn't play too well, definitely not like a real AI (ever tried to kill Armagetron on fortress? tricky buisness)
14:13 <madmax|pt> yeah
14:13 <madmax|pt> even a "go straight" option would be nice
14:22 <joda_bot> go straight except emergency ... 
14:22 <joda_bot> then pick the area with more room ? ;)
14:27 <madmax|pt> just GO STRAIGHT
14:27 <madmax|pt> lol
14:27 <guru3> that's how the chat ai works
14:28 <wrtlprnft> I think the reason why the chatbot currently turns into a wall is that it just tries to turn where there is no wall
14:28 <madmax|pt> well, i guess "he" finds some weird emergency situations then
14:28 <wrtlprnft> just, after it turns a wall appears from a paralell player
14:33 <joda_bot> madmax|pt: you're right, AFAIK the AI turns to prevent crashing into a wall but it does so about 2 seonds ahead ;)
14:35 <madmax|pt> 2 seconds? hmm... i wonder about high speed chat
14:36 <guru3> well the chat bot only checks for stuff ever couple of seconds really
14:36 <wrtlprnft> hmm, I'll have to look inside the code. I'd really like it to never turn in the open field
14:36 <guru3> like every second or tenth of a second
14:37 <joda_bot> might be rubber triggered ;)
14:37 <joda_bot> if the rubber kicks in start turning all the time :-)
14:37 <joda_bot> spiral of death
14:38 <guru3> actually
14:38 <guru3> a chatbot that went left right left right left right on the diagonal
14:38 <guru3> would probably be the hardest chat bot to beat
14:39 <madmax|pt> good point
14:39 <joda_bot> it's not about being beaten ;)
14:40 <guru3> it's about staying alive
14:40 <guru3> which is about not being beaten
14:40 <guru3> "ah ah ah ah staying alive, staying alive!"
14:40 <joda_bot> it's about go straight, and if the player does not act, then spiral to death to make him learn to stop chattin in time ;)
14:40 <joda_bot> go*ing*
14:40 <joda_bot> but only if he's really close to a wall
14:40 <guru3> wouldn't you rather have a crooked chatbot?
14:41 <guru3> i'm sure the mobsters would perfer a crooked chatbot
14:41 <wrtlprnft> hmm
14:41 <guru3> i mean could you honestly expect someone from the yuzuka to go
14:41  * madmax|pt is looking at a local game with chat bot on
14:41 <wrtlprnft> I'd love to have a chatbot that just mazes all the time
14:41 <guru3> honestly
14:41 <guru3> crooked has a bigger market
14:42 <wrtlprnft> gah, remind me to change single player mode so the console enables the chatbot there, too
14:42 <guru3> that's probably something i could write
14:42 <guru3> actually what would be fun
14:42 <guru3> is a chatbot scripting language
14:43 <guru3> i wonder if i could work out a way to do that...
14:44 <guru3> and before anyone asks
14:44 <guru3> hell no would i do it in xml
14:51 <wrtlprnft> something tells me guru3 doesn't like XML
14:51 <wrtlprnft> then the chatbot can't be a resource :(
14:51 <guru3> can't you embed plain text in an xml
14:51 <wrtlprnft> sure you can
14:51 <guru3> i might go for that
14:51 <wrtlprnft> ah, ok
14:51 <wrtlprnft> good luck
14:51 <guru3> i'm just sort of thinking about it for now
14:52 <wrtlprnft> that means, come back for results in a year? jk
14:52 <guru3> quite possibly
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15:34 <guru3> buahahaha
15:34 <guru3> a friend is getting pissed off cause i say his 3-4-3-7 ram timings are slow :P
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15:54 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r5570 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/prototype.cpp: test from SVK
15:59 <guru3> god don't we just run up the revisions :S
16:01 <Brooky> im back
16:05 <guru3> wb
16:05 <Brooky> thx
16:14 <joda_bot> #notes
16:14 <armabot> joda_bot: I currently have notes waiting for $randomnick, GodTodd, Lucifer_arma_, Luke-Jr, McSpiddles, nemo*, phil, someone, spidey, and SuPeRTaRD.
16:20 <Luke-Jr> .
16:21 <Luke-Jr> wrtlprnft: console in SP should just pause the game =p
16:25 <Luke-Jr> guru3: <when><condition><at x="me.x + me.direction.x * 10" y="me.y + me.direction.y * 10" /><anything /></at></condition><action><turn angle="-1axis"></action></when>
16:25 <Luke-Jr> guru3: XML can work for chatbots ;)
16:25 <guru3> maybe
16:26 <guru3> but it doesn't look like much fun to write :S
16:26 <Luke-Jr> and unless you know BISON, you don't want to try any real language syntax
16:26 <Luke-Jr> maybe not for a programmer
16:26 <Luke-Jr> but I imagine it's more clear to a non-programmer
16:26 <Luke-Jr> now efficient implementation might be a bit harder ;)
16:27 <Luke-Jr> obviously we don't want to go parse and evaluate it every single frame we're in chatbot mode
16:27 <Luke-Jr> so you'd need to parse it when it's loaded, and convert values into tValues
16:28 <Luke-Jr> and maybe get tValue to cache its results when the target variables are unchanged
16:28 <Luke-Jr> and from there, get tValue to support a full condition
16:31 <guru3> something... i suppose
16:31 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r5571 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/prototype.h):
16:31 <armabot> armagetronad: r9@queue: lee | 2006-07-03 10:18:34 -0400
16:31 <armabot> armagetronad: test 1 from SVK
16:31 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r5572 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/prototype.cpp):
16:31 <armabot> armagetronad: r10@queue: lee | 2006-07-03 10:19:04 -0400
16:31 <armabot> armagetronad: test 2 from svk
16:31 <guru3> gah
16:32 <free-kill> hmm
16:32 <free-kill> that was the last test
16:33 <guru3> geh?
16:33 <guru3> who's free-kill?
16:33 <free-kill> (nemo)
16:33 <guru3> mm k
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17:08 <guru3> any idea whose aim is 'e blind tron' ?
17:09 <joda_bot> yes
17:09 <joda_bot> guru3: that's joni
17:09 <guru3> who's joni?
17:10 <joda_bot> he's ok, he asked some questions about maps and wrtlprnft helped him host a ladder script for his server
17:10 <guru3> well
17:10 <guru3> he sounds like he's pissed off at me
17:10 <joda_bot> Might be he tried to contact you, but you didn't answer not sure
17:11 <joda_bot> otherwise just ask him ? ;)
17:11 <guru3> E Blind Tron: hello
17:11 <guru3> E Blind Tron: >what r u gay like me<
17:11 <guru3> E Blind Tron: why dont u kik me from clan
17:11 <guru3> E Blind Tron: coz im shit
17:11 <joda_bot> huh ?
17:11 <guru3> that's what he messaged me
17:11 <joda_bot> investigating ;)
17:12 <guru3> yeah
17:12 <joda_bot> what clan anyway ?
17:12 <joda_bot> does not make sense, he might just have got the wrong chat window :)
17:12 <guru3> it's not like there'd be an open chat window from me to him
17:13 <guru3> ive only gotten one message from him before that ive missed according to my logs
17:13 <guru3> and that was just a 'hi'
17:13 <joda_bot> good question
17:13 <joda_bot> he does not answer 
17:13 <joda_bot> right now
17:13 <guru3> i wish i could figure out how to use bitlbee to message
17:14 <guru3> without adding people to the buddy list
17:14 <joda_bot> what's bitlbee ?
17:14 <guru3> irc im gateway
17:15 <joda_bot> I'm using gaim and i've just one big group for all armagetron related contact and add them there
17:17 <guru3> i use bitlbee so i can use irssi in a screen
17:17 <guru3> and ssh to home to connect to all rt comms
17:19 <wrtlprnft> Luke-Jr: uh, sure, I'll see what i can do
17:59 <Luke-Jr> wrtlprnft: eh?
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17:59 <wrtlprnft> 16:21 <Luke-Jr> wrtlprnft: console in SP should just pause the game =p
17:59 <Luke-Jr> oh
17:59 <wrtlprnft> don't remember what you said?
18:04 <Brooky> im back
18:11 <Luke-Jr> wtf
18:11 <Luke-Jr> up till 95%, the torrent goes 10 K/s - 30 K/s
18:11 <Luke-Jr> now at 95%, it shoots up to 250 K/s
18:11 <Luke-Jr> anxious for another seed? lol
18:12 <Luke-Jr> wrtlprnft: any results yet?
18:14 <Brooky> E Blind Tron: helloE Blind Tron: >what r u gay like me<
18:14 <Brooky> E Blind Tron: why dont u kik me from clan
18:14 <Brooky> E Blind Tron: coz im shit
18:14 <Brooky> when did i say that?
18:25 <wrtlprnft> Luke-Jr: look up
18:25 <wrtlprnft> scrollback
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19:11 <Brooky> Hi z
19:13 <wrtlprnft> Hi -
19:13  * wrtlprnft waits for someone to say hi man
19:13 <Brooky> lol
19:15 <wrtlprnft> aww noone? boring channel
19:17 <guru3> hi man
19:18 <joda_bot> hai, mann
19:21 -!- Sakireth [n=sakireth@linth.xs4all.nl] has joined #armagetron
19:21 <Sakireth> Heh.
19:22 <Sakireth> Has anyone seen me @ tron?
19:22 <joda_bot> no, guess not ?
19:22 <Sakireth> Oh.
19:22 <Sakireth> Too bad :P
19:22 <joda_bot> except you're lackadaisical ?
19:22 <Sakireth> What?
19:22 <joda_bot> or spidey
19:23 <joda_bot> or nemo
19:23 <joda_bot> :-) 
19:23 <Sakireth> ..
19:23 <Sakireth> no
19:23 <Sakireth> I am Sakireth.
19:23  * joda_bot hopes Sakireth figured it out by now ;)
19:23 <Sakireth> Hmm?
19:23 <Sakireth> I still haven't.
19:24 <Sakireth> Tell me.
19:24 <joda_bot> There are quite a few players around who use different nicknames
19:24 <guru3> he's saying he hasn't seen you
19:24 <joda_bot> to be anonymoues ;)
19:24 <Sakireth> Okay :P
19:24 <joda_bot> guru3: that too ;)
19:24 <Sakireth> I just use Sakireth
19:24 <Sakireth> =)
19:24 <joda_bot> that's cool, I just use ~*SP*~joda.bot
19:25 <Sakireth> But you're no bot.
19:25 <free-kill> I'm usually a word from /usr/share/dict/words
19:25 <Sakireth> bot
19:25 <Sakireth> hmm
19:25 <Sakireth> !help
19:25 <Sakireth> !version
19:25 <Sakireth> @version
19:25 <Sakireth> .versio
19:25 <Sakireth> .version
19:25 <free-kill> #help
19:25 <Sakireth> ,version
19:25 <armabot> free-kill: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
19:25 <Sakireth> #version
19:25 <armabot> Sakireth: The current (running) version of this Supybot is 0.83.1.  The newest version available online is 0.83.1.
19:25 <Sakireth> #add
19:25 <armabot> Sakireth: Error: The command "add" is available in the Alias, Herald, News, Praise, Quote, and RSS plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "add".
19:26 <Sakireth> #rootkit implement IzL0
19:26 <Sakireth> #ping 80 600000
19:26 <armabot> pong
19:26 <Sakireth> ^_^
19:26 <Sakireth> sorry
19:26 <Sakireth> felt like faking a hack :P
19:31 <spidey|sleep> ...
19:31 -!- spidey|sleep is now known as spidey
19:31 <Sakireth> welcome back, spidey.
19:31 <spidey> ty
19:31 <Sakireth> *once programmed a DDoS bot in perl*
19:32 <spidey> .....
19:32 -!- z-man-home [n=manuel@p50872167.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron
19:32 <spidey> gay
19:32 <Sakireth> But i'm not a hacker anymore.
19:32 <Sakireth> :P
19:32 <guru3> hi z
19:32 <Sakireth> And i use python now, anyways.
19:32 <spidey> DDoS bots aren't hacking :)
19:32 <Sakireth> I know.
19:33 <Sakireth> Programming your own exploits, getting into a system, collecting information, and leaving.
19:33 <Sakireth> That's hacking
19:33 <Sakireth> :P
19:33 <spidey> no it's not
19:33 <Sakireth> Well cracking is harming a system.
19:33 <spidey> that's the medias term of a hacker
19:33 <Sakireth> White-hats, Black-hats, Grey-hats - i know the story.
19:34 <Sakireth> I am too lazy to type it out once again.
19:34 <Sakireth> So just leave it at I know what Hacker means.
19:34  * spidey has a ignore list of over 10,000 people from yahoo that claims to be hackers...mixed with wanna-be creditcard theifs
19:34 <Sakireth> spidey: Heh.
19:35 <Sakireth> spidey: I know 12 programming languages. Can program in sockets, made IRC bots, am on Linux.
19:35 <spidey> ?
19:35 <Sakireth> spidey: That's different from a wannabe =)
19:35 <spidey> didn't say you was.....
19:35  * wrtlprnft gave up counting programming languages he knows
19:35 <Sakireth> ok ^^
19:36 <spidey> i just said  i had a 10k ignore list of them
19:36 <Sakireth> wrtlprnft: Yeah, me too :P
19:36 <Sakireth> The most important one i know is python
19:36 <Sakireth> my favourite ^^
19:36 <wrtlprnft> python is the one i don't know too well
19:36 <Sakireth> wrtlprnft: A byte of python.
19:36 <wrtlprnft> though i did a plugin for armabot in it
19:36 <Sakireth> wrtlprnft: For people with trouble learning python. I learned python that way, that was the only book that worked for me.
19:36 <Sakireth> wrtlprnft: www.byteofpython.info
19:37  * wrtlprnft wonders if there's a way to give IRSSI a key that opens the last posted URI in opera
19:37 <Sakireth> wrtlprnft: Script your own?
19:38 <wrtlprnft> hmm, gotta mess around with perl then
19:38 <Sakireth> wrtlprnft: I hate irssi scripting >_)>
19:38 <guru3> but isn't perl fun, fun, fun? :D
19:39  * wrtlprnft wonders if a plugin like that already exists
19:39 <Sakireth> I don't know
19:39 <Sakireth> Why not use the new X-Chat?
19:39 <wrtlprnft> can't put that into a screen session
19:39 <Sakireth> You on the console?
19:39 <guru3> vive le' screne
19:39 <guru3> *screen
19:39 <Sakireth> Too lazy to configure X? :P
19:40  * wrtlprnft just mentioned he uses opera
19:40 <guru3> it's probably more like
19:40 <guru3> the multiple benefits
19:40 <Sakireth> By the way.. I know the PERFECT distro for you guys
19:40 <guru3> of running irssi in a screen
19:40 <wrtlprnft> gentoo!
19:40 <Sakireth> no compile times, super-fast.. not bloated.
19:40 <Sakireth> wrtlprnft: Better.
19:41 <Sakireth> wrtlprnft: As good as gentoo, only without the compile times. You can still compile, though
19:41 <Sakireth> wrtlprnft: Arch linux ^_^
19:41 <Sakireth> wrtlprnft: www.archlinux.org
19:41 <Sakireth> Read the about section :)
19:41 <guru3> i run gentoo
19:41 <Sakireth> I did, too.
19:41 <Sakireth> But got sick of it
19:41 <Sakireth> It's not useful for people without time.
19:42  * wrtlprnft has time
19:42 <Sakireth> Just visit that website about Arch.
19:42 <guru3> there's no package for xgl
19:42 <guru3> so i'd rather use gentoo
19:43 <wrtlprnft> 19:43 CTCP VERSION reply from guru3: irssi v0.8.9 - running on Linux i686
19:43 <Sakireth> How do you know that?
19:43 <wrtlprnft> didn't know that was possible :D
19:44 <Sakireth> [robin@fantasyminded ~]$ pacman -Ss xgl
19:44 <Sakireth> shadowhand/glxcompmgr-cvs 20060608-1
19:44 <Sakireth>     Composite manager for Xgl
19:44 <Sakireth> shadowhand/mesa-xgl-cvs 20060608-1
19:44 <Sakireth>     Mesa DRI OpenGL library and drivers
19:44 <Sakireth> shadowhand/xgl-cvs 20060608-1
19:44 <Sakireth>     OpenGL accelerated X server
19:44  * wrtlprnft though pacman was a game
19:44 <wrtlprnft> *thought
19:44 <Sakireth> Package Manager.
19:45 <guru3> Sakireth: i chacked on the website
19:45 <guru3> "No Matches"
19:45 <guru3> and doesn't frugalware use pacman as well?
19:45 <Sakireth> guru3: You have to enable shadowhands's repository.
19:45 <Sakireth> guru3: That one is actually BASED on arch i think
19:45 <guru3> beats me
19:45 <Sakireth> guru3: Check the wiki about comparing other distro's with Arch
19:45 <guru3> but i'm plenty happy with gentoo
19:46 <Sakireth> guru3: Then check the differences between gentoo and Arch
19:46 <Sakireth> If you're too lazy, i'll paste it.
19:46 <guru3> http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_vs_Others#Arch_vs_Gentoo
19:46 <wrtlprnft> that a threat?
19:46  * wrtlprnft notes guru3 doesn't like pastes
19:46 <guru3> " x64 user-based spinoff projects are underway"
19:46 <Sakireth> That one, yes.
19:46 <guru3> so that means
19:47 <guru3> there's no official x64 support?
19:47 <guru3> i'll defineteyl take gentoo then
19:47 <Sakireth> You have x64?
19:47 <Sakireth> visit #archlinux
19:47 <guru3> x3
19:47 <guru3> so what useful piece of information did i just garner by doing that?
19:48 <Sakireth> Your system is not compatible with it?
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19:48 <guru3> ?
19:49  * wrtlprnft 's quite happy with gentoo right now
19:49  * wrtlprnft might try archlinux the next time he gets a new machine
19:49  * guru3 concurs
19:50 <spidey> people without time?
19:50 <spidey> mepis installed for me in 13 minutes and 24 seconds
19:50 <spidey> i timed it :)
19:50 <guru3> i think my record gentoo install is about 4 hours...
19:51  * wrtlprnft things guru3 must have plenty of time with all his gentoo boxes
19:51 <wrtlprnft> *thinks
19:51 <Sakireth> yeah.
19:51 <Sakireth> wrtlprnft: But i love arch. only right distro for me.
19:51  * wrtlprnft notes gentoo isn't a distribution
19:51 <guru3> of course i do
19:51 <guru3> i sleep at night
19:51 <Sakireth> wrtlprnft: Don't try ubuntu. The new release is so bloated it is very much slower than any linux distro and even Windows.
19:51 <spidey> not really
19:51  * wrtlprnft once tried kubuntu and its installer sucked
19:51 <spidey> the new distro ran just fine for me
19:52 <Sakireth> spidey: On my pc it was.
19:52 <wrtlprnft> didn't let me configure a proxy
19:52 <spidey> mine it runs like any other does
19:52 <Sakireth> wrtlprnft: You tried KUBUNTU - not Ubuntu!
19:52 <spidey> 2.2ghz and 376mb ram
19:52 <Sakireth> spidey: Well anyways Ubunt is not for the window-manager lover.
19:53 <spidey> i loved it :)
19:53 <Sakireth> spidey: and the command line lover.
19:53 <Sakireth> spidey: And the scripting lover.
19:53 <Sakireth> spidey: DANG! NOW I AM IN THE NEED FOR OPENBOX
19:53  * Sakireth drools
19:53 <Sakireth> Gotta love opencox.
19:53 <Sakireth> Box*
19:53 <guru3> lol
19:53 <Sakireth> No, fluxbox maybe..
19:53 <Sakireth> Yeah, fluxbox it will be! (A)
19:54 <Sakireth> I LOVE FLUXBOX! ^_^
19:54 <guru3> i like gentoo for my gui
19:54 <Sakireth> You never want to see my .xinitrc.
19:54 <Sakireth> I will show it.
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19:55 <Sakireth> http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/1006
19:55  * wrtlprnft uses kde and is happy
19:55  * wrtlprnft hates gnome like hell
19:56 <guru3> but we unite under the gentoo flag eh wrtlprnft?
19:56 <wrtlprnft> :)
19:56 <Sakireth> I still don't like gentoo
19:56 <Sakireth> You need a lot of time
19:56 <guru3> vive le useflags
19:56 <Sakireth> And i'm a busy person.
19:56 <wrtlprnft> vive le rc-update
19:56 <Sakireth> I am 14 years of age. School and stuff..
19:56 <guru3> we can't help it if your computer is slow :P
19:56  * wrtlprnft 's 17
19:56  * guru3 's 18
19:57  * Sakireth 's hungry
19:57  * Sakireth gets a pizza
19:57  * guru3 's about to eat dinner
19:57  * Sakireth already ate dinner
19:57  * wrtlprnft just ate supper
19:57  * Sakireth eats guru3 
19:57 <guru3> lol
19:57 <guru3> bbl
19:57 <wrtlprnft> lots of talking with european guys now
19:57 <Sakireth> bbq
19:57 <Sakireth> bye*
19:58 <Sakireth> Heh.
19:58 <Sakireth> I am from the netherlands.
19:58 <Sakireth> lemme restart X
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19:58 <wrtlprnft> Sakireth is barbecuing guru3? lol
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20:01 <wrtlprnft> Sakireth: had fun barbecuing guru3?
20:01 <wrtlprnft> 19:57 <Sakireth> bbq
20:01 <Sakireth> lol
20:01 <Sakireth> back
20:01 <Sakireth> in fluxbox
20:03 <wrtlprnft> changing window managers every few minutes?
20:04  * wrtlprnft notes that if you were using irssi in a screen you wouldn't have had to logout from freenode to restart X11
20:08 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Drashia/fortress/speedTheater-0.2.0.aamap.xml: Resource by Drashia
20:09 <wrtlprnft> woo new map :)
20:09 <joda_bot> wrtlprnft: those maps have been added / modified all day ;)
20:10 <Luke-Jr> wrtlprnft: dispatch-config
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20:10 <Luke-Jr> guru3: you think USE flags are useful... ;)
20:12 <spidey> O_o
20:12 <wrtlprnft> joda_bot: no, but that map i tried and i liked an older version
20:12 <wrtlprnft> and this one is even better
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20:13 <Sakireth> back.
20:15  * wrtlprnft mentions screen and irssi again
20:17 <Sakireth> *sets up his flux*
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20:22  * wrtlprnft mentions screen and irssi again
20:23 <wrtlprnft> and, can't you just kill your WM instead of killing your X?
20:25 <Sakireth> Yes i can.
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20:27 <spidey> Could not start rdesktop; make sure rdesktop is properly installed.
20:27 <spidey> argh
20:27  * spidey slaps krdp
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20:28 <wrtlprnft> who needs remote desktop?
20:28 <spidey> me
20:28 <Sakireth> YAY! i made a respawning terminaL!
20:28 <wrtlprnft> there's ssh and X11 forwarding
20:28 <spidey> so i can connect to my windows box
20:28 <Sakireth> (while [ true ]; do urxvt -name systerm -title "System Terminal"; done )&
20:28 <spidey> yes i know
20:28 <spidey> i'm not connectiong from windows to linux
20:28 <spidey> i'm connecting from linux to windows
20:28 <spidey> hence i need a rdp client :)
20:29 <wrtlprnft> install cygwin/ssh on the windows box
20:29 <spidey> ......
20:29 <wrtlprnft> format the windows box and install linux
20:29 <spidey> NO
20:29 <spidey> i've got one nix box and that's all i'm having
20:29 <spidey> :)
20:30 <Sakireth> wow
20:30 <spidey> ?
20:34 <spidey> Couldn't find your OpenSSL library installation dir
20:34 <spidey> Use --with-openssl option to fix this problem
20:34 <spidey> :/
20:36 <spidey> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://apt.mepis.org etch/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/apt.mepis.org_3.4_dists_etch_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
20:36 <spidey> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://apt.mepis.org etch/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/apt.mepis.org_3.4_dists_etch_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
20:36 <spidey> that's gay
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20:43 <Brooky> im back
20:45 <Sakireth> wb
20:46 <Brooky> thx
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20:52 <Brooky> wb
20:52 <Sakireth> thx
20:52 <Brooky> what do you keep doing that for?
20:53 <guru3> Luke-Jr: they come in handy every now and then
20:54 <Brooky> wb guru
20:54 <guru3> thnx
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20:55 <Brooky> where did you go?
20:56 <guru3> dinner
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20:56 <Brooky> ok
20:56 <Brooky> what is he playing at?
20:56 <guru3> had some sausage & hot dog
20:57 <Brooky> ok lol
20:57 <guru3> beats me
20:57 <Brooky> im having a bbq
20:57 <guru3> cool cool
20:57 <Brooky> lol
20:57 <Brooky> i got some
20:57 <Brooky> i got 3
20:57 <guru3> 3 what
20:57 <Brooky> rats
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20:57 <Brooky> lol
20:58 <guru3> bbqed rat?
20:58 <Brooky> no
20:58 <guru3> aw
20:58 <guru3> was gonna say that sounded funky
20:58 <Brooky> remember?
20:58 <Brooky> lol
20:58 <Sakireth> setting Fluxbox :P
20:58 <Brooky> ok
20:58 <guru3> with screen you wouldn't have disconnected
20:58 <Brooky> what is fluxbox?
20:58 <guru3> a window manager for linux
20:59 <guru3> light weight
20:59 <Brooky> ok
20:59 <Brooky> i didnt know because i run windows
20:59 <guru3> n
20:59 <guru3> p
20:59 <Brooky> lol
20:59 <guru3> but i don't remember
21:01 <Brooky> brb
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21:04 <Brooky> back
21:04 <guru3> wb
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21:07 <madmax|pt> hi Van
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21:09 <Brooky> YO VAN
21:12 <guru3> lol
21:13 <ghableska> hi Vanhayes
21:13 <Vanhayes> Hello
21:13 <Brooky> bit of a delay there
21:13 <Brooky> lol
21:14 <guru3> also hello from me
21:14 <Vanhayes> hey guru3
21:14 <Vanhayes> hey Brooky
21:14 <Brooky> lol
21:14 <Vanhayes> hey madmax|pt
21:14 <Vanhayes> hey ghableska
21:14 <guru3> :)
21:14 <Brooky> lol
21:15 <guru3> hrhr
21:16 <Brooky> what does hrhr mean?
21:16 <Brooky> i never understood
21:17 <guru3> it's a laugh of sorts
21:17 <guru3> semi chuckle
21:18 <Brooky> ok
21:18 <Brooky> lool
21:18 <Brooky> typo
21:18 <Brooky> brb
21:18 <guru3> k
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21:19 <guru3> watching csi miami
21:19 <guru3> it's pretty bad :/
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21:25 <spidey>  15:26:06 up 16:18,  1 user,  load average: 0.98, 0.39, 0.33
21:26 <spidey> compiling and loads still aren't that bad O_o
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21:27 <Luke-Jr> guru3: I was comparing them to my plans =p
21:27 <guru3> eh?
21:27 <spidey> umm oops
21:28 <guru3> missed the context
21:28 <guru3> lol
21:28 <guru3> btw
21:29 <guru3> Luke-Jr: do you still want the bit in the topic?
21:29 <spidey> Luke-Jr, you still have the password to my server? lol
21:29 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5573 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (8 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed)
21:29 <armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 5563 to 5572:
21:29 <armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
21:29 <armabot> armagetronad:  r5567 | z-man | 2006-07-02 23:29:40 +0200 (Sun, 02 Jul 2006) | 2 lines
21:29 <armabot> armagetronad:  Added removed, auto-generated files to ignore list.
21:29 <armabot> armagetronad:  Basic countermeasures against CPU lag
21:29 <armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
21:30 <guru3> Oo
21:36 <Luke-Jr> guru3: yeah
21:36 <Luke-Jr> spidey: which one? O.o
21:36 <spidey> the one with the ssh account
21:36 <Luke-Jr> ...
21:36 <Luke-Jr> all servers have ssh accounts
21:36  * spidey formated and forgot to save his password O_o
21:36 <spidey> um
21:36 <Luke-Jr> fallin-angels or the one you just installed?
21:36 <spidey> fallin-angels
21:37 <Luke-Jr> hm think so
21:37 <spidey> pm it to me,lol
21:37 <Luke-Jr> if nowhere else, my logs
21:37 <Luke-Jr> PM? why not just say it here? =p
21:37 <spidey> mmm
21:37 -!- spidey is now known as McSpiddlies
21:37 -!- McSpiddlies is now known as McSpiddles
21:37 <ghableska> o_O
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21:48 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5574 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tron/gCycleMovement.cpp:
21:48 <armabot> armagetronad: "Lag turn" bugfix. Sometimes, the server would initiate a cycle turn and mark
21:48 <armabot> armagetronad: the turn command as exectued, but the cycle was unable to execute the turn right
21:48 <armabot> armagetronad: away. The following inconsistent sync message confused the client.
21:49 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5575 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tron/ (gGame.cpp gGame.h): More CPU latency improvements. After network traffic comes in, the server first simulates the game objects that received commands and sends out sycns, then does the rest.
21:49 <guru3> ack lots of text
21:55 <Lucifer_arma> I got a message?
21:55 <wrtlprnft> at least they're good commit messages
21:56 <wrtlprnft> compared to what Luke-Jr writes
21:56  * Lucifer_arma likes to put 'Fixed that thing' for his commit messages
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21:56 <guru3> Luke-Jr: lol
21:56 <guru3> Lucifer_arma: lol
21:56 <guru3> not lol to luke
21:57 <Luke-Jr> <.<
21:57 <guru3> stupid two people starting with lu ><
21:59  * Luke-Jr was lu first ?
21:59 <guru3> yes
21:59 <guru3> i did lu tab
21:59 <Luke-Jr> so Lucifer_arma gets to change his name :)
21:59 <guru3> and luke came out first
22:00 <Luke-Jr> hehe-- imagine if you wanted to chat with Luke-III =p
22:01 <guru3> ><
22:01 -!- You're now known as luwrtlprnft
22:01 <guru3> haha
22:01 <guru3> so much for tab completion ><
22:02 <Luke-Jr> AA's works
22:02 <guru3> it goes by
22:02 <guru3> the last person that talked in irssi i think :(
22:02 <luwrtlprnft> what about Jr-Luke?
22:02 -!- You're now known as wrtlprnft
22:09 <z-man-home> Well, Lucifer_arma could rename to Arma_Lucifer
22:10 <guru3> home-man-z ><
22:10  * joda_bo1 thinkgs if we all put Dev infront of our nicks guru has more fun ;)
22:10 <z-man-home> Why am I z-man-home again?
22:10 -!- z-man-home is now known as z-man
22:10 <joda_bo1> z-man-home-again ;)
22:10 <joda_bo1> z-man-home-alone ? ;)
22:10 <guru3> cause z-man was taken when z-man-home signed on
22:11 <z-man> but why?
22:11 <guru3> beats me
22:11 <joda_bo1> we've got a z-man bot now :)
22:11 <z-man> What does it do?
22:11 <z-man> Random source code changes to bump my stats? :)
22:11 <guru3> lol
22:11  * Lucifer_arma was lu best :)
22:12 -!- Lucifer_arma is now known as z-lucifer
22:13 -!- guru3 is now known as z-guru
22:13 <joda_bo1> z-man: Luke-Jr used a faked email to cause a buffer overrun while you read your email and thus he was able to link you to the MCP and create a virtual copy ... the z-man bot ;)
22:14 <z-man> That's a wild theory :)
22:14 <joda_bo1> a buffer overrun in the brain , of course ;)
22:14 <z-man> But the only one we've got, I guess.
22:14 <z-guru> lol
22:14 <joda_bo1> easy theories don't work ;)
22:14 <z-lucifer> hmmm, so what's a budget?  Is it an account property or a separate object?
22:15  * z-man runs away from accounting
22:15 <Vanhayes> brb finally tracked down the last of the spyware
22:15 <z-guru> lol
22:15  * joda_bo1 thinks we can just define it like we need it ;)
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22:15 <z-lucifer> well, I need to define it and then code it
22:15 <joda_bo1> Guess Luke tries to copy vanhayes too ;)
22:15  * Luke-Jr is now known as z-Luke-Jr
22:17 <joda_bo1> so I try to be a good joda_bot and go to bed early... perhaps that helps with the motivation for writing my baechlor thesis *argh*
22:17 <joda_bo1> #night
22:17 <armabot> Good night joda_bo1!
22:17 <joda_bo1> ;)
22:17 <joda_bo1> good night
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22:19 <z-lucifer> if a budget is a separate object, then what are its properties?
22:20 <z-guru> a max and min?
22:21 <z-lucifer> hmmm, I was thinking about amount and interval, and the BigBoss class would handle setting up budgets for each new interval when it comes
22:21 <z-lucifer> I'd like to view a budget as a rate of change, though :)
22:22 <z-lucifer> oh yeah, and I need to link it to an account somehow
22:22 <z-lucifer> or have it link to multiple accounts
22:23 -!- [Xpert]DarkStar is now known as z-darkstar
22:23 <z-lucifer> so if you're like me and you get separate gas, water, and electricity bills, you could setup a Utility budget that watches gas, water, and electricity expense accounts
22:23 -!- z-man is now known as man
22:23 <z-guru> lol
22:23 <z-lucifer> heh
22:27 <Luke-Jr> man: aww, man... now you conflict w/ madmax|pt 
22:27 -!- man is now known as UberMan
22:27 <UberMan> better?
22:27 <z-guru> lol
22:27 -!- wejp [n=j0hannes@i577BBB0C.versanet.de] has quit [Connection timed out]
22:28 -!- z-darkstar is now known as [Uber]DarkStar
22:28 <McSpiddles> lol
22:28 <UberMan> Luke-Jr: not to mention all the false highlights I'd get...
22:28 <McSpiddles> armabot Sent 3 days, 13 hours, and 34 minutes ago: <wrtlprnft> enjoy the spam
22:28 <McSpiddles> armabot Sent 2 days, 1 hour, and 39 minutes ago: <wrtlprnft> enjoy the spam
22:28 <McSpiddles> and you say i abuse the bot
22:29 <[Uber]DarkStar> hr hr
22:29 -!- [Uber]DarkStar is now known as [Xpert]DarkStar
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22:31 -!- z-lucifer is now known as UberLuci
22:32 <UberLuci> aha, but the account tree is already a tree, so if budget is a property of an account, I get that sort of grouping for free in the account system
22:34 -!- You're now known as z-wrtlprnft
22:45 -!- UberLuci is now known as Lucifer_arma
22:46 -!- You're now known as wrtlprnft
22:49 <wrtlprnft> McSpiddles: that's the #spam command
22:49 <McSpiddles> yea...
22:51 <z-guru> ah crap
22:51 <z-guru> missed the boot menu :(
22:53 <wrtlprnft> lol
22:54 <z-guru> got it this time
22:55 <wrtlprnft> if it started to boot linux you can still reset as long as it has everything mounted readonly
22:55 <wrtlprnft> don't need to wait for it to boot up
22:55 <[Xpert]DarkStar> z-guru: do you get my /msg's?
22:56 <z-guru> nope
22:56 <wrtlprnft> [Xpert]DarkStar: #tell z-guru blah
22:56 <[Xpert]DarkStar> damn
22:56 -!- z-guru is now known as guru3
23:07 <McSpiddles> hey z-man
23:08 <McSpiddles> you double binding isn't impossible at 3 rubber right? :p
23:08 <UberMan> McSpiddles: No, it shouldn't be
23:08 <McSpiddles> mmm
23:08 <McSpiddles> wrtlprnft, said you said on the forums it was O_o
23:09  * McSpiddles is blaze
23:09 <UberMan> rubber and double binding are independent
23:09 <McSpiddles> i mean on the rim
23:09 <McSpiddles> or a wall
23:09 <UberMan> Oh, I disabled 180s and adjusts on lagfarm
23:09 <McSpiddles> i was doing it yesterday
23:09 <UberMan> with cycle_rubber_delay
23:09 <UberMan> you can't be too close when you do it
23:10 <McSpiddles> maybe it's cause my ping is 300+ ....but i was doing it
23:10 <UberMan> if you're reasonably far away, it works, but it's instant death if you're too close
23:10 <UberMan> yes, you get a bit of rubber from tat
23:10 <UberMan> that
23:10 <Lucifer_arma> double binding is always possible, except on cycle_delay 0.0
23:10 <McSpiddles> i wasn't no further than -- < that
23:10 <Lucifer_arma> here's an example of double binding: ||
23:10  * Lucifer_arma thinks he should make an instant chat key that says that :)
23:11 <McSpiddles> lol
23:11 <wrtlprnft> here's triple binding; P
23:11 <Lucifer_arma> |+
23:11 <wrtlprnft> P -- boom
23:11 <Lucifer_arma> heh
23:11 <McSpiddles> who triple binds?
23:11 <Lucifer_arma> here are more examples of double binding: || || || || || || || || ||
23:12 <UberMan> People who hate kittens :)
23:12 <McSpiddles> i use  left arrow,x,x,z 
23:12 <wrtlprnft> UberMan: McSpiddles had about a twentieth of a grid unit of room...
23:12 <McSpiddles> i can do that faster than using 3 keys
23:12 <UberMan> wrtlprnft: then it should have been impossible, perhaps I messed the settings up
23:13 <McSpiddles> i can double bind
23:13 <wrtlprnft> UberMan: i have a BUG cry around that
23:13 <McSpiddles> then go back into the double bind
23:13 <McSpiddles> then bind back out
23:13 <UberMan> Hmm, shouldn't be possible
23:14 <McSpiddles> i do have to time it perfect
23:14 <McSpiddles> or i die
23:14 <McSpiddles> but i can do it
23:14 <UberMan> The server is running at only 10 fps, that exposes some previously unknown bugs :)
23:14 <wrtlprnft> oh, wow
23:15 <UberMan> Whoops, the bug cry detection script isn't working there yet.
23:15 <McSpiddles> lol
23:16 <McSpiddles> UberMan, maybe the reason i can do it is cause of all the extra rubber i have from my high ping there?
23:16 <UberMan> That's definitely a requirement, yes.
23:17 -!- UberMan is now known as z-man
23:17 <madmax|pt> o.O
23:17 <McSpiddles> O.o
23:17 <wrtlprnft> o_O
23:17 <McSpiddles> O_.
23:17 <McSpiddles> lol
23:17 <madmax|pt> 0_0
23:17 <wrtlprnft> #dotdotdot
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23:17 <McSpiddles> O
23:17 <McSpiddles> _
23:17 <armabot> wrtlprnft: [16:17:54] <madmax|pt> 0_0, [16:17:52] <McSpiddles> lol, [16:17:50] <McSpiddles> O_., [16:17:46] <wrtlprnft> o_O, [16:17:40] <McSpiddles> O.o, [16:17:36] <madmax|pt> o.O, [16:15:42] <McSpiddles> lol, [16:11:52] <Lucifer_arma> heh, [16:11:31] <McSpiddles> lol, [16:09:09] <McSpiddles> mmm, [15:53:39] <wrtlprnft> lol, [15:28:51] <McSpiddles> lol, [15:27:54] <z-guru> lol, [15:23:56] (50 more messages)
23:17 <wrtlprnft> ...
23:17 <McSpiddles> O
23:17 <McSpiddles> _
23:17 <McSpiddles> o
23:18 <McSpiddles> that just looks weird
23:18 <McSpiddles> my grandma lost the chiuaua
23:18 <McSpiddles> brb
23:18 <Vanhayes> lol Chiuaua
23:19 <Vanhayes> those are funny looking dogs
23:20 <[Xpert]DarkStar> someone in the neighborhood here got one of these
23:20 <[Xpert]DarkStar> really cute
23:21 <McSpiddles> heh
23:21 <McSpiddles> she took him to the vet
23:21 <McSpiddles> and they tied a 4th of july bandana on him
23:21 <McSpiddles> so he's hiding under the couch
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23:30 <Lucifer_arma> chihuahuas are supposed to wear cinco de mayo bandanas
23:30 <Lucifer_arma> what does heberge mean?
23:32 <McSpiddles> ?
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23:32 <wrtlprnft> herberge? german word?
23:32 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5576 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tron/gWall.cpp: Fixed wall flickering bug. Preliminary walls are only discarded faster if a final wall comes along over the network that really is a bit newer.
23:32 <wrtlprnft> hostel
23:33 <wrtlprnft> http://dict.leo.org/?lp=ende&lang=de&searchLoc=0&cmpType=relaxed&relink=on&sectHdr=on&spellToler=std&search=herberge
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23:34 <Vanhayes> #last
23:34 <armabot> Vanhayes: [16:33:28] <wrtlprnft> http://dict.leo.org/?lp=ende&lang=de&searchLoc=0&cmpType=relaxed&relink=on&sectHdr=on&spellToler=std&search=herberge
23:35 <guru3> night ya'll
23:35 <wrtlprnft> night
23:35 <Vanhayes> night
23:35 <McSpiddles> http://www.6URL.com/0TPD
23:42 <wrtlprnft> #night
23:42 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
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23:50 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #night
23:50 <armabot> Good night [Xpert]DarkStar!
23:50 <Luke-Jr> hm
23:50 <[Xpert]DarkStar> night all
23:50 <Vanhayes> night
23:50 <Luke-Jr> Regarding making money... Anyone think maybe we can just offer to do coding of AA features at top priority for pay? =p
23:51 <Brooky> gotta to sleep
23:51 <Brooky> bye
23:51 <Brooky> #night
23:51 <armabot> Good night Brooky!
23:51  * Luke-Jr wonders if anyone would be that into the game to actually do it =p
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23:54 <wrtlprnft> maybe get paid for not implementing features?
23:54  * wrtlprnft looks at silly
23:54 <Luke-Jr> heh

Log from 2006-07-04:
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00:09 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5577 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/tron/ (gCycleMovement.cpp gGame.cpp gGame.h gWall.cpp): (log message trimmed)
00:09 <armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 5572 to 5576:
00:09 <armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
00:09 <armabot> armagetronad:  r5576 | z-man | 2006-07-03 23:32:51 +0200 (Mon, 03 Jul 2006) | 2 lines
00:09 <armabot> armagetronad:  Fixed wall flickering bug. Preliminary walls are only discarded faster if a final wall comes along over the network that really is a bit newer.
00:09 <armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
00:09 <armabot> armagetronad:  r5575 | z-man | 2006-07-03 21:49:37 +0200 (Mon, 03 Jul 2006) | 2 lines
00:09 <z-man> last one for today, bedtime.
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00:17 <McSpiddles> lahl
00:17  * McSpiddles has to wait 4 minutes to go back to BF O_o
00:17 <madmax|pt> you just did the sickest thing 
00:17 <McSpiddles> ?
00:18 <madmax|pt> you left, and both sides didnt have any place to grind
00:18 <McSpiddles> sLOL
00:18 <McSpiddles> i was spam-kicked
00:18 <madmax|pt> right in the exact moment
00:18 <madmax|pt> ahah
00:18 <McSpiddles> i got a little to happy with wrtlprnft's color instant key
00:18 <McSpiddles> lol
00:18 <McSpiddles> 3 more minutes
00:18 <madmax|pt> lol
00:21 <McSpiddles> 2 minutes O_o
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00:42 <cusco> color instant key?
00:42 <cusco> hows taht?
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01:09 <Vanhayes> #list
01:09 <armabot> Vanhayes: Admin, Alias, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, Dict, Games, Google, Herald, Insult, Later, Math, Misc, News, Owner, Praise, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Time, Unix, User, Utilities, and Web
01:09 <Vanhayes> #list web
01:09 <armabot> Vanhayes: doctype, fetch, headers, netcraft, size, title, urlquote, and urlunquote
01:09 <Vanhayes> #help fetch
01:09 <armabot> Vanhayes: (fetch <url>) -- Returns the contents of <url>, or as much as is configured in supybot.plugins.Web.fetch.maximum. If that configuration variable is set to 0, this command will be effectively disabled.
01:09 <ghableska> hi Vanhayes
01:09 <Vanhayes> hey ghableska
01:10  * Vanhayes finally got a good IRC client again
01:11 <ghableska> what client?
01:11 <Vanhayes> I got Mirc back
01:11 <Vanhayes> er
01:11 <Vanhayes> mIRC
01:11 <ghableska> cool
01:12 <Vanhayes> it said I had to register after 30 days so iuninstalled it and just reinstalled it and I have another 30 days
01:13 <ghableska> lol
01:13 <ghableska> nice
01:13 <ghableska> how did the ladle go?
01:15 <Vanhayes> pretty good, I wasn't gonaa play it because it was canada day But then it started to thunder and rain hard so I played the first match and part of the second
01:15 <ghableska> cool
01:15 <ghableska> I missed it :(
01:15 <Vanhayes> heh, it was prettty fun
01:15 <Vanhayes> good games
01:15 <ghableska> was 2020 there?
01:16 <Vanhayes> yup
01:16 <ghableska> I haven't seen him in ages...
01:16 <Vanhayes> it was me 2020 lackadaisical, eggcozy  hay linn garismo nii and zop
01:16 <McSpiddles> he Pew survey found that the average price of residential DSL service decreased from $38 per month in February 2004 to $32 per month by December 2005. Some evidence suggests prices may have fallen further still, with Verizon Communications, AT&T, Comcast, and others offering service plans at less than $20 per month. And as prices fall, providers are upgrading connections and investing in new infrastructure to provide higher
01:16 <McSpiddles>  speeds to consumers.
01:16 <McSpiddles> http://news.com.com/2010-1034_3-6090408.html?part=rss&tag=6090408&subj=news
01:17 <ghableska> nice
01:18 <McSpiddles> For one, about half of U.S. Internet users still connect via dial-up. Unlimited/flat-rate local telephone calls, innovations like "Web accelerators," and competition that has pushed subscription prices below $10 per month
01:18 <McSpiddles> people still use dialup ?
01:18 <ghableska> o_O
01:18 <ghableska> like 40
01:20  * Vanhayes slaps Vanhayes around a bit with a large trout
01:20 <Vanhayes> ha
01:20 <ghableska> heh
01:20 <ghableska> #slap Vanhayes
01:20 <ghableska> :(
01:20  * McSpiddles slaps Vanhayes around a bit with a large cow
01:20  * Vanhayes slaps Vanhayes around a bit with a large trout
01:20  * Vanhayes slaps Vanhayes around a bit with a large trout
01:20  * McSpiddles slaps Vanhayes around a bit with a large cow
01:20  * McSpiddles slaps Vanhayes around a bit with a large cow
01:20 <Vanhayes> spam
01:20 <Vanhayes> lol
01:20 <Vanhayes> Im just seeing what this IRC client can do
01:21 <madmax|pt> o.O
01:22  * Luke-Jr drops a 100 lb box of UNIX manuals on Vanhayes's head.
01:23 <McSpiddles> LOL
01:23 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: that means he wants a host (or she, or whatever)
01:23 <Lucifer_arma> it's that Dashia person.  Swiss, according to his flag.
01:23 <McSpiddles> Luke-Jr, my host seemed a bit sketchy i still have shell access after he thought he disabled it
01:23 <McSpiddles> :>
01:24 <Luke-Jr> ;)\
01:24 <McSpiddles> man,i thought i had problems
01:24 <McSpiddles> these guys really don't have a clue
01:24 <Luke-Jr> lol
01:24 <McSpiddles> i told him they did infact have rsync
01:24 <McSpiddles> then he said the guy they get the server from said it didn't
01:25 <Luke-Jr> ROFL
01:25 <McSpiddles> i asked if he had ssh to it,he said yes...i said type rsync
01:25 <McSpiddles> he then "thought" he disabled it :>
01:25  * Lucifer_arma throws a CD containing all the unix man pages at Luke-Jr 
01:25 <McSpiddles> they take my shell i'm moving to another host :p
01:25 <Lucifer_arma> wait, what year is it?
01:25 <Luke-Jr> lol
01:25 <McSpiddles> 2006
01:25  * Lucifer_arma throws a dvd containing all the unix manpages at Luke-Jr 
01:26 <McSpiddles> lol
01:26 <Luke-Jr> anyone interested in starting a hosting 'company'?
01:26 <McSpiddles> heh
01:26 <Lucifer_arma> like distortgaming?
01:26 <Luke-Jr> dunno
01:26 <McSpiddles> i done asked a friend if he wanted to
01:26 <McSpiddles> :p
01:26 <Luke-Jr> just like host AA servers w/ low latency
01:26 <Luke-Jr> and maybe related sites
01:26 <McSpiddles> actually
01:26 <McSpiddles> heh
01:27 <Luke-Jr> just need a colo on a low latency connection really
01:28 <McSpiddles> http://www.dedicatedhosting.com/
01:28 <McSpiddles> O_o
01:29 <McSpiddles> 1tb transfer 
01:29 <Luke-Jr> not that low latency
01:29 <Luke-Jr> a whole 60ms
01:29 <McSpiddles> lol
01:30 <Luke-Jr> 60ms is a bit long
01:30 <Luke-Jr> we want VoIP-quality low latency
01:30 <Luke-Jr> 20ms
01:30 <McSpiddles> oops
01:30 <McSpiddles> anyways
01:30 <McSpiddles> 60?
01:30 <McSpiddles> i get 73
01:30 <McSpiddles> O_o
01:31 <Luke-Jr> ...
01:33 <McSpiddles> like
01:33 <McSpiddles> 10mbps or 100mbps
01:34 <Luke-Jr> ?
01:36 <McSpiddles> um
01:36 <McSpiddles> that was gay
01:36 <McSpiddles> my browser just loaded the windows vista page
01:37 <McSpiddles> on it's own
01:37 <McSpiddles> then i pressed the back button
01:37 <McSpiddles> it did it again
01:56 <Vanhayes> #dict heberge
01:56 <armabot> Vanhayes: No definition for "heberge" could be found.
01:56 <Vanhayes> #google heberge
01:56 <armabot> Vanhayes: Search took 0.86 seconds: FREE- HEBERGE .COM o Index page: <http://free-heberge.com/>; Heberge .info - H?bergement, Accueil: <http://heberge.info/>; Your Mailinglist Provider: <http://www.yourmailinglistprovider.com/>; Game Movies: FEAR Movie #5 - Demo Movie Patch Download Section ...: <http://www.gamershell.com/download_10117.shtml>; NIKE+ : PODCAST: (2 more messages)
01:56 <ghableska> bad translation?
01:56 <Vanhayes> no clue
01:56 <ghableska> what language?
01:56 <Vanhayes> heh no clue
01:57 <Vanhayes> it was on the forums
01:57 <Vanhayes> I wanted to know what the word was
01:58 <ghableska> yeah, I saw that post
01:58 <Vanhayes> did that link he gave work for you?
01:59 <ghableska> um, hold on
01:59 <ghableska> no
02:09 <mkzelda> i wonder why everything everyone says is prefixed with a +
02:09 <ghableska> ?
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02:10 <mkzelda> [20:11] <ghableska> +?
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02:11 <ghableska> must be your client
02:11 <ghableska> I don't see it...
02:12 <mkzelda> yea
02:12 <mkzelda> ive never seen it b4
02:13 <mkzelda> been on irc for 10 years and its new to me
02:13 <ghableska> lol
02:14 <mkzelda> kind of exciting
02:14 <mkzelda> heh
02:15 <McSpiddles> as long as you don't start using yahoo
02:15 <ghableska> very ;)
02:15 <McSpiddles> that's a trap
02:15 <McSpiddles> O_o
02:15 <ghableska> why?
02:15 <McSpiddles> why don't you go in a few rooms and see for yourseld ;)
02:16  * McSpiddles started the internet on yahoo
02:16 <McSpiddles> O_o
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02:16  * McSpiddles goes to tron
02:16 <ghableska> o.0
02:22 <ghableska> anyone want to come to BF Deathmatch?
02:40 <McSpiddles> sure
02:40  * McSpiddles reminds self to put a "run" bar in his panel
02:41 <McSpiddles> wow
02:41 <McSpiddles> i can't come
02:41 <McSpiddles> it keeps saying i timed out
02:41 <McSpiddles> O_o
02:42 <ghableska> O_o
02:43 <ghableska> I can join...
02:55 <ghableska> woo
02:56 <ghableska> -150 points
03:03 <McSpiddles> O_o
03:03 <McSpiddles> you beat my record
03:04 <ghableska> well, it was on purpose...
03:04 <ghableska> I found a nice corner to hit the wall
03:04 <McSpiddles> LOL
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03:08 <McSpiddles> http://livedigital.com/content/377059/p4
03:29 <McSpiddles> http://livedigital.com/content/372464/p4   lmfao  that one's funny
04:01 <ghableska> *yawn*
04:37  * McSpiddles goes to piss then wright his letter of resignation to mbc O_o
04:38 <ghableska> why are you leaving?
04:39 <McSpiddles> reasons :)
04:49 <McSpiddles> bah
04:49  * McSpiddles now has to wait till lizz gets back O_o
04:49 <ghableska> O_o
04:53 <McSpiddles> Did God mess up?
04:53 <McSpiddles>  
04:53 <McSpiddles> This subject has babbled me since the day I was able to think on my on, when I learned the difference from right and wrong. Why is it said that God, our creator, the maker and creator of everything and everyone, create such a horrible and disgusting race. Have you personally just taken the time out of your normal day and just watched someone else. I?ll be the first to say people are mean and cruel to each other. When I sa
04:53 <McSpiddles> y people I mean everyone, I know someone is going to say no I am not mean to the next person, well I say you?re a liar, because there is someone you hate, dislike, or want to make fun of.
04:53 <McSpiddles> O_o
04:54 <ghableska> lol...
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05:34 <mkzelda> .
05:34 <mkzelda> sup
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> hi
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> I think I'm going to make budgets a property of accounts
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06:22 <Your_mom_arma> do we no longer support moviepacks?
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> we still do?
06:23 <Your_mom_arma> i cant get any moviepacks to work in 0.3
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, that's odd
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> far as I know, the moviepack stuff hasn't been touched since 0.2.8
06:25 <Your_mom_arma> care to test if you can get a moviepack to work on .3?
06:28 <Your_mom_arma> never mind i got it to work
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> ummm
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> ok, nvm :)
06:28  * Lucifer_arma just updated to the trunk
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07:19 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #morning
07:19 <armabot> Good Morning [Xpert]DarkStar Random Fortune:  Extreme feminine beauty is always disturbing. || -- Spock, "The Cloud Minders", stardate 5818.4
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07:40 <wrtlprnft> 01:23 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: that means he wants a host (or she, or whatever)
07:40 <wrtlprnft> 01:23 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: that means he wants a host (or she, or whatever)
07:40 <wrtlprnft> oops
07:40 <wrtlprnft> just one
07:40 <wrtlprnft> but who or what does this refer to?
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07:46 <Lucifer_arma> [18:23] <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: that means he wants a host (or she, or whatever)
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> [18:23] <Lucifer_arma> it's that Dashia person.  Swiss, according to his flag.
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> it was about a forum post
07:54 <Your_mom_arma> the guy who wants to pay someone to host a server?
07:54 <joda_bot> Your_mom_arma: excellent advertisement ;)
07:55 <joda_bot> aka. mom said "Host him a server you're nuts if you don't do it, if he wants to pay for it."
07:56 <joda_bot> Lucifer_arma: How would I start a petition to add German translations to the wiki ? ;)
07:56 <Lucifer_arma> joda_bot: by first defining who you're trying to petition
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> because if you get a 'petition' of people who want a german translation, I'd say you collected a list of volunteer translators :)
07:57 <joda_bot> I've got more German players looking for information about Armagetron
07:57 <joda_bot> wrtlprnft: z-man: joda_bot: ;)
07:57 <joda_bot> Go petition go ;)
07:58 <joda_bot> Lucifer_arma: I'd start with providing a FAQ like site on the wiki for German and English
07:58 <wrtlprnft> if i was to do a german translation it would suck
07:58 <joda_bot> e.g. answer the most common questions
07:59 <Lucifer_arma> like "Why isn't the wiki in german?"  :)
07:59 <joda_bot> wrtlprnft: you don't have to translate , just answer the problems in german again :-P
07:59 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: i can't really host a pay server, not enough bandwidth
07:59 <joda_bot> Lucifer_arma: I guess making a separate wiki does not make sense
07:59 <wrtlprnft> it would still suck, because i didn't write a german text >2 lines for the last 10 months
07:59 <joda_bot> Lucifer_arma: The trick is that, ppl can see what information is already there and switch to English if they can
08:00 <joda_bot> If they can't understand it, they might ask for a translation ...
08:00 <joda_bot> wrtlprnft: You'll recover ;)
08:00 <joda_bot> wrtlprnft: Dies ist ein einfacher Deutscher Satz. ;)
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> well, what you need to do is get some people who want to translate to subscribe to pages and make the german translation
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> this is after 2 other things have happened, though
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> 1) guru3 sends me the database dump so we can move the wiki back to my server
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> 2) you tell me what I need to do to the wiki to make it possible
08:01 <joda_bot> yes, and the other thing I'm not sure if that works, but can the language of the wiki interface be changed ? 
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> then you get your translators to ech subscribe to a few pages, and then translate them, and watch them for edits so they can keep them updated
08:01 <joda_bot> like making a main page which also displays a German login etc. screen ?
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> what I"d like is a bar with flags, and you click on the one that's yours :)
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> how does wikipedia do it?  anybody know?
08:02 <joda_bot> Lucifer_arma: We could take a look at the Civilisation wiki and steal their concept ;)
08:02 <joda_bot> They already did that I guess
08:02 <joda_bot> Lucifer_arma: separate wikis for each language
08:02 <wrtlprnft> uh, the english wikipedia is in english and the german wikipedia is in german...
08:02 <wrtlprnft> different database tables
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> so we'd need two wikis to have a german one?
08:03 <joda_bot> FreeCiv does use a wiki with de: prefix for other languages
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> how about the new version of mediawiki?  I saw something about better internationalization support, anybody know what that's about?
08:03 <joda_bot> es:Rubber for spanish entries
08:03 <joda_bot> Lucifer_arma: no idea
08:03 <joda_bot> http://www.freeciv.org/index.php/Freeciv
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> MediaWiki (http://wikipedia.sf.net/): 1.4.15
08:05 <joda_bot> Lucifer_arma: the wiki interface does not switch it's language for the german page :|
08:05 <wrtlprnft> I'd prefer two wikis
08:05 <wrtlprnft> a) the interface language changes
08:06 <wrtlprnft> b) you get those "other languages" links like on wikipedia
08:06 <Lucifer_arma> they're a version behind us
08:06 <wrtlprnft> c) the recent changes don't get crowded with stuff english- speaking people aren't interested and vice versa
08:06 <Lucifer_arma> and we're going to be upgrading in the move, I'll be upgrading us to 1.6.x
08:07 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: the only problem with that is someone (me, more than likely) would need to set up the german wiki :)
08:07 <wrtlprnft> well
08:07 <Lucifer_arma> I can do that if you guys really want it, it's just work, you know :)
08:08 <wrtlprnft> i think you should be able to use the same installation for that, just different databases
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> make /en and have it be the default, then make /de and joda_bot volunteers to administer that one
08:08 <joda_bot> I'm not sure if a separate wiki is a good idea
08:08 <joda_bot> there will not be enough content yet
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> if there's something in the mediawiki docs that tells how, post it as a link in the Wiki World forum and I'll get it when the move happens
08:09 <wrtlprnft> joda_bot's decision
08:09 <joda_bot> If we get a german invasion, we can still copy the stuff over with all the helpers ?
08:09 <wrtlprnft> you can't copy the history
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> well, you know, you've got a chicken and egg problem here
08:10 <wrtlprnft> oh no, not again
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> you don't want a separate wiki because there's no content, but you don't have any content because you don't have a wiki
08:10 <wrtlprnft> last time this caused me a weeklong headache
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08:10 <joda_bot> wrtlprnft: I guess that's not a big problem if you migrate to a new wiki ... it's better than starting from scratch then ;)
08:10 <wrtlprnft> joda_bot: it is a problem since the authors have to be named for creative commons
08:11 <joda_bot> wrtlprnft: ah ok license stuff ;)
08:11 <joda_bot> Make a link for previous history see here ;)
08:11 <wrtlprnft> that's one thing the history pages are for, to give credit to whoever wrote that stuff
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> we'll just set it up as a separate wiki, because the wiki we have now started without content, at least the germans have something to work from :)
08:12 <wrtlprnft> :)
08:13 <joda_bot> Before we do that, I'd like to check freeciv's expierence with their solution of "de:"
08:13 <wrtlprnft> though it would be nice if the wikis could share their user database
08:13 <wrtlprnft> does mysql support links? ie one table is really a symlink to another
08:13 <joda_bot> armagetronad's wiki language can be changed to german interface (in the preferences)
08:13 <wrtlprnft> it you're logged in, yeah
08:14 <joda_bot> just have to find a way to change the default for a subpage ;)
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> except errors.BalanceIntervalError, exc:
08:14 <Lucifer_arma>                     pass # ignore errors here, they're probably caused by shit not working
08:14 <wrtlprnft> ?
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> code I just wrote :)
08:14 <wrtlprnft> that python?
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
08:17 <Lucifer_arma> and I was right, shit's broke.  Hmmm, have to rethink this balance interval thing
08:17 <Lucifer_arma> can't write the budgeting stuff until I can report on specific time periods
08:19 <guru3> Lucifer_arma: just say when you want the copy of the db
08:20 <Lucifer_arma> guru3: how about next Monday?
08:20 <Lucifer_arma> ;)
08:20 <guru3> ok
08:20 <Lucifer_arma> calc test next weekend
08:21 <guru3> np
08:21 <guru3> i can dump whenever
08:22  * Lucifer_arma thinks he should just rewrite the code that updates the list with time periods in mind
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08:24 <guru3> breakfast
08:24 <guru3> bbl
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08:40 <guru3> gah
08:40 <guru3> my dad said
08:41 <guru3> "you've got to look out for buisness"
08:41 <guru3> >:(
08:41 <guru3> they're acting like i forget about doing stuff on purpose
08:42 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5578 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tron/gCycleMovement.cpp: Added timestamps to respawns
08:43 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5579 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tron/gGame.cpp: Fixed the way turns are enforced after the turn delay is over. Instead of forging the last turn times, which does not work any more, the turn delay is temporarily set to zero.
08:47 <wrtlprnft> z-man: oh, yeah, something confusing on BF Deathmatch: If you run into a wall and turn too late you die, but the respawned cycle doesn't follow the turn command you gave. would it be possible to memorize the unexecuted turn commands and execute them on the new cycle?
08:47 <z-man> wrtlprnft: maybe
08:48 <z-man> It's quite annoying if you unexpectedly crash into the rim :)
08:48 <wrtlprnft> that too
08:48 <z-man> Perhaps the respawn should just always point away from the rim?
08:49 <wrtlprnft> just be invoulnerable against the rim for a while?
08:49 <wrtlprnft> so you can't die, you just stop dead?
08:49 <wrtlprnft> or respawn at a normal spawn point
08:50 <wrtlprnft> which is what I'd like for my race server
08:53 <Lucifer_arma> sometimes gui programming is annoying as hell
08:59 <joda_bot> wrtlprnft: I guess the situation will improve once phillippeqc and me have finished the new spawn stuff
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09:09 <Brooky> Hi all.
09:11 <Your_mom_arma> hi
09:12 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5580 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/tron/ (gCycleMovement.cpp gGame.cpp): (log message trimmed)
09:12 <armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 5576 to 5579:
09:12 <armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
09:12 <armabot> armagetronad:  r5579 | z-man | 2006-07-04 08:44:05 +0200 (Tue, 04 Jul 2006) | 1 line
09:12 <armabot> armagetronad:  Fixed the way turns are enforced after the turn delay is over. Instead of forging the last turn times, which does not work any more, the turn delay is temporarily set to zero.
09:12 <armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
09:12 <armabot> armagetronad:  r5578 | z-man | 2006-07-04 08:42:37 +0200 (Tue, 04 Jul 2006) | 1 line
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10:09  * wrtlprnft wonders if he could hack the CIA plugin to leave out the tr
10:09 <wrtlprnft> text of merges
10:23 <wrtlprnft> what's the point of this in python:
10:23 <wrtlprnft> while condition:
10:23 <wrtlprnft>     blah
10:23 <wrtlprnft> else:
10:23 <wrtlprnft>     blah
10:23 <wrtlprnft> why don't you just type the stuff in else: into the parent block, what's the point?
10:27 <guru3> gah
10:27 <guru3> just when you need z-man
10:27 <guru3> he's not on
10:27 <wrtlprnft> lo
10:27 <wrtlprnft> l
10:28 <wrtlprnft> guru3: #later tell is your friend
10:28 <guru3> maybe
10:29 <wrtlprnft>  #later tell guru3 #later tell is your friend
10:29 <wrtlprnft> note the space at the beginning :)
10:30 <guru3> noted
10:40 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: that's stuff you want executed if the loop doesn't get executed
10:43 <guru3> Luke-Jr: what was that tip you had to keep cron from spitting back all the output unless there were errors?
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11:36 <wrtlprnft> hmm, those points in the dev forum don't tell me anything :( guess we have to wait for z-man to look at it
11:36 <wrtlprnft> i see his point in the functions, but I dunno how to insert error handling that still does something meaningful and doesn't cause other problems
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12:06 <Lucifer_arma> what's the radmin command to release an army of monkeys?
12:06 <Lucifer_arma> is it /admin TWELVE_MONKEYS 1
12:13  * wrtlprnft just accidently screwed up all settings on that server
12:14 <wrtlprnft> i accidently deleted the message of the day, so i decided to INCLUDE server_info.cfg to get it back
12:14 <wrtlprnft> does't exist, so i tried settings_dedicated.cfg...
12:14 <wrtlprnft> took me a while to figure z-man has his settings in autoexec.cfg
12:15 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: the army of monkeys would be SP_NUM_AIS 12?
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12:50 <wrtlprnft> if i play in that intertron thing, should i play for canada or germany?
12:50 <wrtlprnft> i guess canada will be more in need of players than germany...
12:54 <cusco> hey
12:54 <cusco> I also wanna play!
12:54 <cusco> where do I subscrive?
12:54 <cusco> :p
12:56 <wrtlprnft> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Inter_Tron
12:58 <cusco> my country isn't there
12:59 <cusco> im portuguese :p
12:59 <cusco> but.. I live in the uk
12:59 <cusco> I suose I could be there
13:00 <wrtlprnft> you can add portugese if you think someone es
13:00 <wrtlprnft> *else will join that team
13:02 <cusco> maybe
13:02 <cusco> madmax|pt
13:03 <cusco> Im not being able to register..
13:04 <wrtlprnft> gah
13:04 <wrtlprnft> what's the error message?
13:04 <wrtlprnft> be sure you don't use your tab key
13:04 <cusco> done!
13:05 <cusco> ah!
13:05 <cusco> why not?!?!?
13:05 <cusco> Im used to it :|
13:05 <wrtlprnft> it's just that form
13:05 <wrtlprnft> it's to confuse spam bots
13:05 <wrtlprnft> you can also press tab twice after entering your name
13:05 <cusco> ahm! right!
13:05 <cusco> I noticed that
13:05 <wrtlprnft> if you press it once you'll end up in a hidden field
13:05 <cusco> but I didn't sow where ti was.. 
13:05 <cusco> I thoug it was blank
13:06 <wrtlprnft> and if you change that it'll refuse
13:06 <cusco> but I already typed there some
13:06 <cusco> I see...
13:06 <wrtlprnft> cusco: view the page without CSS and you'll see
13:06 <cusco> thanks
13:06 <cusco> ah :P
13:06  * cusco is now wating for the confirmation email
13:06 <cusco> or 
13:07 <cusco> no need
13:07 <wrtlprnft> yeah, i thought so
13:07 <cusco> so where are you from? germany or canada?
13:08 <wrtlprnft> well
13:08 <wrtlprnft> i was in canada for ten months
13:08 <wrtlprnft> just came back to germany
13:15 <cusco> oh I see
13:15 <cusco> so will germany win the fifa world cup?
13:16 <cusco> :P
13:16 <cusco> (with the help of the referee)
13:16 <wrtlprnft> i don't care at all
13:17 <wrtlprnft> would have been fun to have z-kraut around, but belgium is out already
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13:23 <Brooky> Hi all
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13:38 <McSpiddles> O_o
13:41 <wrtlprnft> o_O
13:54 <McSpiddles> O_
13:54 <McSpiddles> O_o
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14:56 <cusco> belgium
14:56 <cusco> I only know michael prodom
14:56 <cusco> the greatest goalkeeper
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15:09 <wrtlprnft> i know noone of belgium cusco :P
15:10 <wrtlprnft> cusco: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=57341#57341
15:10 <wrtlprnft> that's why. the cheese is rather boring
15:56 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/ed/dogfight/chico_polo-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by ed
16:09 <Luke-Jr> guru3: erm... >/dev/null ?
16:15 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/ed/dogfight/nano_sumo-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by ed
16:17 <cusco> cheessyyy
16:17 <cusco> yea o well....
16:17 <cusco> germany will probably win..
16:17 <cusco> argentina was the team who played the nicest games.. they putem out
16:18 <Luke-Jr> ...
16:18 <cusco> gonna tron a but
16:18 <cusco> bit
16:37 <cusco> I never played in anything like a tournament before
16:37 <cusco> how does that tronic thingie works?
16:37 <cusco> like when
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16:39 <McSpiddles> wtf
16:39 <McSpiddles> (10:37:40) xxx_federation_force_xxx: [MASS] A secret operation is underway Operation -" SUCK ME OFF". Its a high profile operation involving Multi Million Dollors. The person incharge of this operation is Trent aka joa_smokeymacpot . If you r interested in this operation then please contact joa_smokeymacpot for details.   NOTE - please contact joa_smokeymacpot as its his operation and idea.  pe@ce.[MASS].
16:39 <McSpiddles> my host really is retarded O_o
16:47 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/ed/dogfight/sumo-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by ed
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17:31 <joda_bot> back ...
17:33 <ghableska> wb
17:34 <joda_bot> :-)
17:34 <joda_bot> Not here long ... going to watch some soccer in the city ;)
17:35 <ghableska> sounds fun :)
17:44  * wrtlprnft has 0 interest in soccer now that we only have boring cheese instead of z-kraut
17:44 <ghableska> :P
17:48 <guru3> my hd space is disapearing :(
17:48 <ghableska> :(
17:48 <guru3> on both my servers
17:48 <guru3> on one for unknown reasons
17:48 <guru3> on the other
17:48 <guru3> cause i keep dling anime
17:48 <guru3> curse you you anime
17:49 <guru3> you stupid thing taking up 240gb :(
17:52 <wrtlprnft> o_O
17:52 <ghableska> O_o
17:52 <wrtlprnft> 240gb... that'd keep me busy watching for years
17:53 <ghableska> lol
17:54 <wrtlprnft> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Inter_Tron&curid=2471&action=history
17:54  * wrtlprnft wonders if any of these people have heard of the preview button
17:58 <joda_bot> wrtlprnft: What's a preview button :-O
17:59 <joda_bot> wrtlprnft: j/k ... off to city soccer 
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17:59 <wrtlprnft> i didn't even mean joda
18:00 <wrtlprnft> just others that first put their name in and a couple of empty lines, then decide they don't like the empty lines, and then delete them one by one, all in separate edits
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18:06 <Self_Destructo> heellooo
18:07 <ghableska> hi
18:08 <wrtlprnft> hi there :)
18:08 <guru3> lo sd
18:08  * Self_Destructo is downloading a developers cd. :)
18:08 <Self_Destructo> linux at that
18:09 <guru3> :o
18:09 <wrtlprnft> ?
18:09 <Self_Destructo> Linspire now offers a devlopers linux, like gentoo
18:09 <wrtlprnft> gentoo :)
18:09 <wrtlprnft> just take gentoo, don
18:09 <wrtlprnft> 't use a fake jk
18:10 <Self_Destructo> hehe, well, I'm giving it a try
18:10 <Self_Destructo> i think i torrented gentoo not to long ago
18:10 <Self_Destructo> when i was around all the time
18:10 <wrtlprnft> gentoo install cd is ~50MB
18:11 <Self_Destructo> really?
18:11 <Self_Destructo> I'm downloading a 697MB .iso file
18:11 <wrtlprnft> though you still have to download stuff once you're installing
18:11 <wrtlprnft> but you download only what you need
18:11 <Self_Destructo> see
18:12 <Self_Destructo> that's what sucks, I hate installing a downloader. :P
18:12 <wrtlprnft> you're not installing it
18:12 <Self_Destructo> hehe :P
18:12 <wrtlprnft> it's a life CD that serves as an environment for you to install linux
18:12 <Self_Destructo> live *
18:13 <wrtlprnft> ?
18:13 <wrtlprnft> ah
18:13 <wrtlprnft> life CD like in liFe raft
18:13 <Self_Destructo> i find it funny wondows is just now catching on to this live cd thing
18:13 <wrtlprnft> wth is up with wondows?
18:14 <wrtlprnft> did they change their name?
18:14 <Self_Destructo> no, misspell
18:14 <Self_Destructo> a good one at that
18:14 <wrtlprnft> it's just that I've seen quite a few of those in the last while
18:14 <wrtlprnft> wondows
18:14 <Self_Destructo> lol
18:15 <Self_Destructo> sounds good doesn't it?
18:15 <wrtlprnft> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=70291&highlight=#70291
18:15 <wrtlprnft> there's another one...
18:15 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/ed/dogfight/deadly_race-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by ed
18:21 <Self_Destructo> i never got 3.0 to compile
18:22 <Self_Destructo> I didn't have version.h for one...
18:22 <Self_Destructo> and I don't remeber what I gave up on.
18:23 <wrtlprnft> hmm
18:25 <Self_Destructo> | 31 |     9 | ed/fortress/desperate_housewives-0.0.1.aamap.xml         | Desperate Housewives    | wildfortress1
18:25 <Self_Destructo> lol
18:25 <Self_Destructo> what's that map like?
18:27 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/ed/dogfight/five_sumos-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by ed
18:29 <Self_Destructo> yhh
18:29 <Self_Destructo> why does armabot keep spitting this stuff out?
18:30 <guru3> aww swampland is missing :(
18:33 <Self_Destructo> i like swampland
18:33 <Self_Destructo> ans swamplord (my favorite classic)
18:34 <Self_Destructo> i see quite a few of the been-around-a-long-time guys there
18:34 <guru3> swampland doesn't apear to be up tho :(
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18:35 <madmax|pt> hi
18:35 <ghableska> hi madmax|pt
18:35 <Self_Destructo> hi
18:35 <guru3> lo mad
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18:41 <McSpiddles> sd!
18:42 <McSpiddles> poor garisimo
18:42 <McSpiddles> proved he isn't anything without a good team
18:42 <McSpiddles> then he left
18:42 <McSpiddles> heh
18:43 <Self_Destructo> hi spidey
18:44 <McSpiddles> sup man?
18:47 <McSpiddles> i'm starting to hate ogame
18:47 <McSpiddles> i've lost 30million resources worth of fleet so far
18:48 <Self_Destructo> pitling, waiting on a download right now
18:48 <Self_Destructo> well, that's part of the game
18:48 <McSpiddles> hehe
18:48 <McSpiddles> yea
18:48 <Self_Destructo> I'm almost ranked, and I'm not playing. :P
18:48 <McSpiddles> :p
18:48 <Self_Destructo> 1518
18:48 <McSpiddles> i've been knocked down so many ranks man
18:48 <Self_Destructo> i saw
18:49 <Self_Destructo> like 154 or something
18:49 <McSpiddles> i should be in the 700s by now
18:49 <Self_Destructo> i looked at the forum this morning
18:49 <McSpiddles> yea
18:49 <McSpiddles> those are the crashes i posted 
18:49 <McSpiddles> there's another crash in the HoF on the ogame boards
18:49 <McSpiddles> klopfer got me
18:49 <McSpiddles> :/
18:50 <McSpiddles> no matter though
18:50 <McSpiddles> i'll have it back in 11 days
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18:51 <McSpiddles> oh
18:51 <McSpiddles> i got a moon xD
18:51 <Self_Destructo> i saw that too
18:51 <McSpiddles> those things rock
18:51 <Self_Destructo> from a fleet crash?
18:51 <Self_Destructo> what can you do with them?
18:51 <McSpiddles> yes i let astac crash about 1/5 of the fleet i had at the time
18:52 <McSpiddles> you can get a sensor phalanx
18:52 <Self_Destructo> yeah
18:52 <McSpiddles> to detect other peoples fleet movements
18:52 <McSpiddles> you can hide a fleet from sesnor detection with them
18:52 <McSpiddles> jump gates
18:52 <Self_Destructo> scan planets to see incoming an outgoing, all the fleets in the solarsystem.. etc, right?
18:52 <McSpiddles> they're awesome
18:52 <McSpiddles> yea
18:52 <wrtlprnft> Self_Destructo: armabot spits out SVN commit messages and map uploads
18:53 <Self_Destructo> ah
18:53 <McSpiddles> i've gotten in a bad habbit to
18:53 <Self_Destructo> utoh
18:53 <McSpiddles> i've been attacking people ranked in the top 200
18:53 <Self_Destructo> lol
18:53 <McSpiddles> then someone ranked 6 crashed 1/2 my fleet
18:53 <McSpiddles> xD
18:53 <Self_Destructo> i'd do that too just for teh fun
18:53 <Self_Destructo> :)
18:53 <McSpiddles> lol
18:53 <McSpiddles> i've had 3 major crashes
18:53 <McSpiddles> and recovered fast
18:54 <McSpiddles> when i get crashed i just fire my 2 planets in g3 back up
18:54 <McSpiddles> and i rebuild rather fast :)
18:55 <Self_Destructo> that's how i did it
18:55 <Self_Destructo> but, i also didn't survive in the middle of now where either
18:55 <McSpiddles> heh
18:56 <Self_Destructo> i had lots of farms with little or no defence
18:56 <McSpiddles> as long as i've got my friend ranked in the 200s now
18:56 <McSpiddles> and his moon in g3
18:56 <McSpiddles> i'll be fine
18:56 <McSpiddles> he's got over 300 bombers O_o
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18:57 <Self_Destructo> dang
18:57 <McSpiddles> 07-04 08:07:30  	Hamm3rstein [3:463:5]  	Re:no subjectanswer
18:57 <McSpiddles> 	Ooops who hit you?
18:58 <McSpiddles> i bet if it was someone close he'd avenge me :)
18:58 <Self_Destructo> lol
18:59 <guru3> god you gotta love playing tron with 8bit music :D
19:00 <McSpiddles> LOL
19:00 <guru3> Lucifer_arma: will the internal media player support streams?
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19:00 <Self_Destructo> Linspre CNR still has 2.7.0 as the Armagetron downlaod
19:00 <ghableska> hi Vanhayes
19:00 <McSpiddles> linspire?
19:00 <Self_Destructo> they need to update badly
19:00 <guru3> lo van
19:00 <Vanhayes> hey ghableska hello guru3
19:01 <Self_Destructo> www.linspire.com ... a linux distro
19:01 <McSpiddles> yes i know
19:01 <McSpiddles> but ewww
19:01 <guru3> isn't it linspiring?
19:01 <McSpiddles> spidey@1[~]$ cat /proc/version
19:01 <McSpiddles> Linux version 2.6.15-1-586tsc (Debian 2.6.15-3.ww1) (ww@mepis.org) (gcc version 4.0.3 20051201 (prerelease) (Debian 4.0.2-5)) #2 PREEMPT Wed Feb 1 17:40:51 EST 2006
19:01 <guru3> Linux version 2.6.11-gentoo-r4 (root@strawberry) (gcc version 3.3.6 (Gentoo 3.3.6, ssp-3.3.6-1.0, pie-8.7.8)) #5 SMP Sun Jun 18 09:39:51 CEST 2006
19:01 <McSpiddles> lol @ strawberry
19:02 <guru3> vive my evenescent server
19:02 <guru3> or however the heck it's spelt
19:02 <guru3> point is vive it
19:02 <McSpiddles> lol
19:03 <madmax|pt> hi Vanhayes
19:03 <wrtlprnft> Self_Destructo:! that thing has a security hole!
19:03 <Vanhayes> hey madmax|pt
19:03 <guru3> don't worry
19:03 <guru3> security holes are everywhere in tron
19:04 <wrtlprnft> Linux version (root@laptop) (gcc-Version 3.4.5 (Gentoo 3.4.5-r1, ssp-3.4.5-1.0, pie-8.7.9)) #1 PREEMPT Sat May 27 09:27:36 CDT 2006
19:04 <wrtlprnft> guru3: well, but they're well- hidden for now and it looks like they're not that critical
19:04  * McSpiddles refuses to take the time to compile gentoo
19:04 <guru3> true
19:04 <guru3> gentoo r great
19:04 <guru3> compile it once
19:04 <guru3> and it never break
19:04 <wrtlprnft> yeah
19:05 <wrtlprnft> my gentoo install is on the 2nd harddrive already
19:05 <guru3> wrtlprnft: and i are the gentoo bros of this chan
19:05 <wrtlprnft> that means i just copied it all over to the new hd
19:05 <wrtlprnft> :D
19:05 <guru3> lol
19:05 <wrtlprnft> and it worked
19:06 <wrtlprnft> don't try that with windows...
19:06 <guru3> incidently
19:06 <guru3> there's a bug
19:06 <guru3> with armagetron and xgl in fullscreen mode
19:06 <McSpiddles> don't try that with windows?
19:06 <McSpiddles> why not? :p
19:07 <wrtlprnft> hmm, the first emerge that got logged (when i set portate_logdir) is from june 15, 2005
19:07 <wrtlprnft> that was emerge number 2881, dunno how old the install really is
19:07 <Self_Destructo> wrtlprnft: that don't work with windows without special software because it doesn't have a generic HD controller driver
19:07 <wrtlprnft> there we go
19:07 <Self_Destructo> kinda dumb imo
19:07 <Self_Destructo> but they had thier reasons
19:08 <wrtlprnft> the special software i used on linux was a life- CD, NFS and tar
19:08 <wrtlprnft> which defragmented the thing on the go
19:08 <Self_Destructo> that
19:08 <Self_Destructo> 's
19:08 <Self_Destructo> .. 
19:08 <wrtlprnft> that's what?
19:09 <Self_Destructo> one question i've had with linux... is why is there no defrag... error checking.. etc on linux?
19:09 <wrtlprnft> or live- CD if you like it
19:09 <wrtlprnft> ther is error checking
19:09 <Self_Destructo> it's called a Lvie CD wrtlprnft
19:09 <Self_Destructo> Live
19:09 <wrtlprnft> fsck for error checking
19:10 <wrtlprnft> and no, there's no easy way to defrag a ext2 or reiserfs partition
19:10 <Self_Destructo> why?
19:10 <wrtlprnft> but it's barely needed
19:10 <wrtlprnft> g2g, cya
19:10 <Self_Destructo> what's so different about it
19:10 <Self_Destructo> cya
19:11 <ghableska> brb
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19:12 <McSpiddles> mmmm
19:12 <McSpiddles> you back for good sd?
19:12 <Self_Destructo> no
19:12 <McSpiddles> "
19:12 <McSpiddles> :/
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19:19 <McSpiddles> shit
19:19 <McSpiddles> i forgot my paypal password O_o
19:19 <guru3> lol
19:19 <guru3> you were going to donate, right? x)
19:20 <McSpiddles> heh,i can barely keep paying for my gameserver and webserver
19:20 <guru3> well be thankful all of our hosting is done by the community
19:20 <McSpiddles> and the game-server guys wanna charge me for a fuckin month of downtime
19:20 <McSpiddles> i basically told 'em to kiss my ass
19:20 <guru3> cause we could never afford a proper server
19:21 <McSpiddles> if you ever need webhosting i can do that :p
19:21 <McSpiddles> i got 5gb space and 5000gb tansfer
19:21 <McSpiddles> which
19:21 <McSpiddles> i'm gonna upgrade the space soon
19:21 <guru3> the forums use about 1.5gb as it is now ><
19:21 <guru3> and i've never been brave enough to analyze the log file to see how much per month traffic ><
19:21 <McSpiddles> LOL
19:22 <McSpiddles> i don't use much
19:22 <McSpiddles> i think last month i had like 230mb
19:22 <guru3> so are you volunteering? >:D
19:23  * McSpiddles already has a 1gig file mirroring the download thing
19:23 <McSpiddles> :p
19:23 <McSpiddles> gave luke a account
19:23 <guru3> lol
19:23 <guru3> the forums are so friggin huge ><
19:24 <McSpiddles> LOL
19:24 <McSpiddles> my forums are
19:24 <McSpiddles> sec
19:24 <McSpiddles> SQL Disk usage  	1.98 Megabytes
19:24 <McSpiddles> O_o
19:24 <guru3> ahahahahaha
19:24 <guru3> that's a rich one
19:24 <guru3> the thing that i can do when ppl with linux host tho
19:24 <McSpiddles> Disk usage  	1082.41 Megabytes
19:24 <guru3> that i can't do with a pro hoster
19:24 <guru3> is have this:
19:24 <guru3> http://forums2.armagetronad.net/
19:25 <McSpiddles> heh
19:25 <guru3> local mirror
19:25 <guru3> live db synchronization
19:25 <McSpiddles> um
19:25 <McSpiddles> hold on i undocked this window
19:25 <guru3> between forums and forums2
19:25 <McSpiddles> now i can't redock it :/
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19:26 <McSpiddles> mehg
19:26 <guru3> lol
19:26 <madmax|pt> lol
19:26 <McSpiddles> i still can't believe
19:26 <McSpiddles> my host tried to take my shell cause i knew more than he did about it
19:26 <McSpiddles> O_o
19:26 <guru3> hahaha
19:26 <guru3> that's great
19:26 <McSpiddles> not really
19:27 <McSpiddles> he said the server didn't have rsync
19:27 <McSpiddles> so luke checked and it did
19:27 <madmax|pt> you already said that i think
19:27 <madmax|pt> o_O
19:27 <guru3> first ive heard of it :D
19:27  * McSpiddles forgets alot
19:27 <McSpiddles> so i probably did
19:27 <madmax|pt> guess guru3 didnt read it
19:28 <McSpiddles> lol
19:28 <guru3> of course i didn't
19:28 <guru3> who has time to read all their irc channels
19:28 <McSpiddles> lmao
19:28 <McSpiddles> <<<
19:28 <guru3> i ignore about 80% of what's going on in here
19:28 <guru3> at least
19:28 <guru3> probably closer to 95%
19:30 <McSpiddles> thank god for the "forgot password" link
19:30 <McSpiddles> O_o
19:33 <guru3> lol
19:34  * McSpiddles waits for his $40 to transfer
19:34 <guru3> vroom
19:34 <guru3> look at the speed of the digital age
19:34 <McSpiddles> pssh
19:34 <McSpiddles> takes 3 days
19:36  * McSpiddles goes to make a partition
19:36 <McSpiddles> only got like 8gigs left of this drive
19:37 <McSpiddles> spidey@1[proc]$ cat /proc/partitions
19:37 <McSpiddles> major minor  #blocks  name
19:37 <McSpiddles>    3     0  117187500 hda
19:37 <McSpiddles>    3     1  117178078 hda1
19:37 <McSpiddles>    3    64   13342392 hdb
19:37 <McSpiddles>    3    65    9394531 hdb1
19:37 <McSpiddles>    3    66     976562 hdb2
19:37 <McSpiddles>    3    67    2351562 hdb3
19:41 <cusco> ~root your host and ask them money
19:41 <McSpiddles> lol
19:42 <McSpiddles> well
19:42 <McSpiddles> the version of apache they use is 1.*
19:42 <McSpiddles> heh
19:44 <free-kill> what's wrong with 1.3?
19:45 <McSpiddles> they way these guys are
19:45 <McSpiddles> everything
19:45 <McSpiddles> i bet it's not even patched
19:51 <Self_Destructo> g2g, cya guys\
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20:31 <McSpiddles> ghableska, ghableska ghableska ghableska 
20:31 <ghableska> :P
20:32 <McSpiddles> i really hate doubleginders
20:32 <McSpiddles> kill me everytime
20:32 <McSpiddles> :|
20:32 <ghableska> :)
20:32 <wrtlprnft> McSpiddles: grind harder and kill them
20:32 <wrtlprnft> that's my practice
20:32 <McSpiddles> i'm center
20:32 <McSpiddles> sdude
20:32 <wrtlprnft> McSpiddles: still, brake and adjust
20:32  * McSpiddles makes it a note to kill all doublegrinders from now on
20:33 <McSpiddles> i've never had one doublegrinder not kill me
20:33 <ghableska> McSpiddles: didn't you once get kicked for doing that? :)
20:33 <McSpiddles> yea
20:33 <McSpiddles> but i don't care :)
20:33 <ghableska> It was funny ;)
20:33 <McSpiddles> i can come back  20seconds later
20:33 <ghableska> lol, and you did
20:33 <wrtlprnft> McSpiddles: just complain that he kills you for a while before
20:33 <McSpiddles> :)
20:33 <wrtlprnft> then kill him and say you just don't wanna get killed
20:33 <McSpiddles> i shouldn't have to
20:33 <ghableska> heh
20:33 <McSpiddles> i should have to tell them to break earlier once
20:35  * McSpiddles notes 10000mb isn't 10gb
20:35 <guru3> it's <
20:36 <McSpiddles> #g 1024 * 10
20:36 <armabot> 1,024 * 10 = 10,240
20:36 <wrtlprnft> err
20:36 <ghableska> :P
20:36 <McSpiddles> 10,240
20:36 <McSpiddles> mb :p
20:36 <ghableska> you don't need a calculator for that
20:36 <wrtlprnft> you need a calculator for that
20:36 <wrtlprnft> ?
20:36 <ghableska> lol...
20:36 <McSpiddles> no
20:36 <McSpiddles> but i wanted to use it :p
20:37 <McSpiddles> brb pizza
20:39  * McSpiddles loves pizza
20:40 <ghableska> whoo
20:40 <ghableska> shuttle launched ^.^
20:40 <McSpiddles> ?
20:41 <ghableska> space shuttle...
20:41 <McSpiddles> oh yea
20:41 <McSpiddles> i think i saw something about that on the news
20:41 <McSpiddles> ~what i saw while i was waiting in line to piss~
20:41 <ghableska> lol
20:42  * wrtlprnft goes and joins canada for the intertron so they don't have to join the US
20:42 <madmax|pt> gimme some pizza
20:42 <ghableska> lol
20:42 <McSpiddles> no
20:42 <madmax|pt> gimmeeee
20:42 <McSpiddles> NO
20:42 <Vanhayes> heh is it still just me?
20:42  * ghableska steals pizza
20:42 <madmax|pt> fuck you then!!!!
20:42 <McSpiddles> mine :>
20:42 <madmax|pt> lol
20:42 <McSpiddles> LOLOLOL
20:43 <ghableska> mine!
20:43 <McSpiddles> NO
20:43 <madmax|pt> ok ghab gimme some pizza
20:43  * ghableska hands madmax|pt pizza
20:43 <madmax|pt> nice
20:43 <ghableska> ;)
20:43 <McSpiddles> no more pizza
20:43 <ghableska> free pizza for all :P
20:43 <McSpiddles> me and my dog just ate it all
20:43 <ghableska> o_O
20:43 <Vanhayes> heh chiwawa?
20:43 <ghableska> lol
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20:43 <McSpiddles> no
20:43 <ghableska> hi
20:44  * Vanhayes doesnt know how to spell it
20:44 <McSpiddles> i let one of the blacklabs in the house
20:44 <madmax|pt> chiuaua
20:44 <Vanhayes> lol
20:44 <ghableska> those are evil
20:44 <madmax|pt> get the w off
20:44 <McSpiddles> lol
20:44  * McSpiddles now wants a cat and some fish
20:44 <McSpiddles> then it'll be fun
20:44 <McSpiddles> dogs > cat > fish
20:44 <McSpiddles> dogss pwn
20:44 <Vanhayes> yup
20:45 <Vanhayes> cats arnt bad but dogs are better
20:45 <McSpiddles> i used to have this evil fuckin cat
20:45 <McSpiddles> i mean
20:45 <Luke-Jr> How do we make Deb pkgs?
20:45 <madmax|pt> dinossaurs > dogs
20:45 <ghableska> lol
20:45 <McSpiddles> she'd walk upto and per and rub on your leg
20:45 <McSpiddles> then you reach down to pet her
20:45 <McSpiddles> next thing you know
20:45 <McSpiddles> RAWR!!!!!
20:45 <madmax|pt> loooool
20:45 <Vanhayes> lol
20:45 <ghableska> haha
20:46 <McSpiddles> and
20:46 <McSpiddles> if you walk by a bed
20:46 <McSpiddles> you better be wearing shoes
20:46 <ghableska> heh
20:46  * McSpiddles used to always jump to his bed
20:46 <madmax|pt> oh, that's why...
20:46 <ghableska> o_O
20:46 <McSpiddles> i don't have that cat anymore thank god
20:47 <ghableska> heh
20:47 <McSpiddles> we couldn't bring it when i moved
20:47 <McSpiddles> so my stepdad's stuck with it
20:47 <McSpiddles> O_o
20:47 <Vanhayes> hmm is it america day?
20:47 <ghableska> :P
20:47 <McSpiddles> ex-stepdad*
20:47 <McSpiddles> yes it is
20:47 <McSpiddles> 4th of july
20:47 <Vanhayes> it just said on tv i wasnt sure
20:47 <ghableska> independence  day
20:47 <McSpiddles> and i'ma goto the fireworks show at the lake tonight
20:48 <McSpiddles> lots of girls there and i need another girlfriend :>
20:48 <ghableska> :P
20:48 <madmax|pt> take the chiuaua
20:48  * McSpiddles classes his current one as a "crack whore"
20:48 <ghableska> chick magnet :P
20:48 <McSpiddles> and i mean that literally
20:48 <McSpiddles> :|
20:52 <McSpiddles> take the chiuaua?
20:52 <McSpiddles> haha
20:52 <McSpiddles> no way
20:52 <McSpiddles> that dog acts like it's dying when you put it on a leash
20:53 <ghableska> maybe the leash was too tight?
20:53 <ghableska> :P
20:53 <McSpiddles> no...
20:53 <McSpiddles> you can put a collar on him
20:53 <McSpiddles> but if you put a leash he rolls over and starts screaming
20:53  * McSpiddles feeds him to the labs
20:53 <McSpiddles> O-o
20:54 <ghableska> 0.o
20:54 <Vanhayes> chiuauas creep me out, their heads are too big for their body's
20:54 <McSpiddles> no
20:54 <McSpiddles> there's different breeds
20:54 <McSpiddles> lets see if i can use my webcam on linux i'll take a picture
20:55 <madmax|pt> Ok Vanhayes, close your eyes now
20:55 <Vanhayes> lol
20:55 <McSpiddles> how do i use a webcam in linux O_o
20:55  * Vanhayes uses windoows
20:56 <Vanhayes> so...
20:56 <McSpiddles> oh yea
20:56 <McSpiddles> i forgot i have a windows box
20:56 <McSpiddles> i'll use that if i can find the cd to install it
20:57 <wrtlprnft> #google linux webcam howto
20:57 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Search took 0.47 seconds: Linux .com - The Webcam HOWTO: <http://www.linux.com/howtos/Webcam-HOWTO/index.shtml>; Linux .com - Specific Webcam Models: <http://www.linux.com/howtos/Webcam-HOWTO/devices.shtml>; The Webcam HOWTO: <http://tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Webcam-HOWTO/>; Linux Online - The Webcam HOWTO: <http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/Webcam-HOWTO/index.html>; Linux (2 more messages)
20:57  * wrtlprnft wonders why windows- users are so google- shy
20:58 <Vanhayes> i love google
20:58 <Vanhayes> use it all the time
20:58 <ghableska> lol
20:58 <Vanhayes> and isnt McSpiddles a linux user?
20:58 <Vanhayes> and a mac before that?
20:58 <wrtlprnft> he's some kind of windows wannabe geek
20:58 <Vanhayes> lol
20:59 <Vanhayes> heh a wanabe windows, never heard of that before
20:59 <wrtlprnft> no
20:59 <wrtlprnft> windows wannabe
20:59 <wrtlprnft> that means he uses windows and is a wannabe
20:59 <wrtlprnft> :P
21:00 <McSpiddles> meh
21:00  * wrtlprnft hides from McSpiddles 
21:00 <McSpiddles> dog's hiding
21:00  * wrtlprnft hides behind deja_vu 
21:00 <madmax|pt> o.O
21:00  * McSpiddles sicks madmax|pt on wrtlprnft 
21:00 <wrtlprnft> sicks?
21:01 <McSpiddles> like
21:01 <McSpiddles> " GET 'EM BOY!"
21:01 <Vanhayes> #dict sicks
21:01 <ghableska> Oh.
21:01 <armabot> Vanhayes: No definition for "sicks" could be found.
21:01 <madmax|pt> ... NOT
21:01 <deja_vu> o.o
21:01 <Vanhayes> #dict sick
21:01 <wrtlprnft> :p found it
21:01 <McSpiddles> lol
21:01 <armabot> Vanhayes: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: gcide: Sick \Sick\, n. Sickness. [Obs.] --Chaucer. [1913 Webster]; gcide: Sick \Sick\, v. i. To fall sick; to sicken. [Obs.] --Shak. [1913 Webster]; wn: sick adj 1: not in good physical or mental health; "ill from the monotony of his suffering" [syn: {ill}] [ant: {well}] 2: feeling nausea; feeling about to vomit [syn: {nauseated}, {queasy}, (12 more messages)
21:01 <ghableska> heh
21:01 <wrtlprnft> http://dict.leo.org/?lp=ende&lang=de&searchLoc=0&cmpType=relaxed&relink=on&sectHdr=on&spellToler=std&search=sick
21:01 <ghableska> does that mean madmax|pt will throw up on wrtlprnft?
21:01 <wrtlprnft> much more useful
21:01  * deja_vu pokes wrtlprnft with a screw driver O.o
21:01 <Vanhayes> lol
21:01 <wrtlprnft> argh
21:01 <Vanhayes> thats harsh
21:02  * wrtlprnft looks for another place to hide
21:02  * wrtlprnft doesn't find one
21:02  * ghableska offers a box
21:02 <madmax|pt> a windows box?
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21:02 <ghableska> brb
21:02 <McSpiddles> l;ol
21:02 <wrtlprnft> :D
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21:02 <deja_vu> o.o
21:02 <deja_vu> interesting :P
21:02 <McSpiddles> heh
21:03 <madmax|pt> l;ol > lol
21:03 <wrtlprnft> lol < l;ol?
21:03 <Vanhayes> hmm I dont think canada has enough tron players for the inter tron comp
21:03 <wrtlprnft> lol < l;ol < l;o;l?
21:03 <wrtlprnft> get fonkay as well...
21:03 <McSpiddles> McSpiddles > wrtlprnft 
21:04 <wrtlprnft> in your dreams
21:04 <Vanhayes> #google fight McSpiddles wrtlprnft
21:04 <wrtlprnft> #armabot is McSpiddles > wrtlprnft?
21:04 <McSpiddles> lol
21:04 <armabot> wrtlprnft: _I_ don't know.
21:04 <armabot> Vanhayes: wrtlprnft: 9760, McSpiddles: 2
21:04 <wrtlprnft> hah!
21:04 <McSpiddles> lies
21:04 <McSpiddles> i want a remach
21:04 <Vanhayes> #google fight McSpiddles wrtlprnft
21:04 <McSpiddles> rematch
21:04 <armabot> Vanhayes: wrtlprnft: 9760, McSpiddles: 2
21:04 <wrtlprnft> #g 2/97.60
21:04 <armabot> 2 / 97.60 = 0.0204918033
21:04 <madmax|pt> fight meeeee
21:04 <wrtlprnft> you habe 0.02% as many hits as i do
21:04 <McSpiddles> no you can't do the same one in a role :p
21:04 <Vanhayes> #google fight McSpiddles madmax|pt
21:04 <armabot> Vanhayes: madmax|pt: 392000000, McSpiddles: 2
21:04 <madmax|pt> pwn
21:04 <McSpiddles> O_o
21:04 <wrtlprnft> hahahaha!
21:05 <wrtlprnft> wow
21:05 <McSpiddles> #google fight McSpiddles madmax|pt 
21:05 <armabot> McSpiddles: madmax|pt: 512000000, McSpiddles: 2
21:05 <wrtlprnft> #google madmax|pt 
21:05 <McSpiddles> O_o
21:05 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Search took 0.41 seconds: :: Portugal Telecom :: PT: <http://www.telecom.pt/>; Partido dos Trabalhadores ( PT ): <http://www.pt.org.br/>; PT Central - Main Menu. Comprehensive Physical Therapy Information: <http://www.ptcentral.com/>; Chrysler - PT Cruiser - Small Sport Compact Hatchback Cars: <http://www.chrysler.com/pt_cruiser/>; WebElements: Platinum: (1 more message)
21:05 <madmax|pt> loool
21:05 <Vanhayes> #google fight Vanhayes madmax|pt
21:05 <armabot> Vanhayes: madmax|pt: 392000000, Vanhayes: 272
21:05 <Vanhayes> heh
21:05 <madmax|pt> others tried and didnt make it
21:05 <madmax|pt> so...
21:05 <McSpiddles> #google fight wrtlprnft madmax|pt McSpiddles Vanhayes 
21:05 <wrtlprnft> the heck?
21:05 <armabot> McSpiddles: madmax|pt: 512000000, wrtlprnft: 9760, Vanhayes: 660, McSpiddles: 2
21:05 <McSpiddles> O_o
21:05 <Vanhayes> um
21:05 <wrtlprnft> http://www.telecom.pt/ doesn't have any occurence of madmax|pt...
21:05 <Vanhayes> mine went up like 400
21:05 <madmax|pt> its the |pt
21:06 <wrtlprnft> argh
21:06 <wrtlprnft> #google 'madmax|pt'
21:06 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Search took 0.23 seconds: :: Portugal Telecom :: PT: <http://www.telecom.pt/>; Partido dos Trabalhadores ( PT ): <http://www.pt.org.br/>; PT Central - Main Menu. Comprehensive Physical Therapy Information: <http://www.ptcentral.com/>; Chrysler - PT Cruiser - Small Sport Compact Hatchback Cars: <http://www.chrysler.com/pt_cruiser/>; WebElements: Platinum: (1 more message)
21:06 <wrtlprnft> #google '"madmax|pt"'
21:06 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Search took 0.06 seconds: :: Portugal Telecom :: PT: <http://www.telecom.pt/>; Partido dos Trabalhadores ( PT ): <http://www.pt.org.br/>; PT Central - Main Menu. Comprehensive Physical Therapy Information: <http://www.ptcentral.com/>; Chrysler - PT Cruiser - Small Sport Compact Hatchback Cars: <http://www.chrysler.com/pt_cruiser/>; WebElements: Platinum: (1 more message)
21:06 <madmax|pt> lol
21:06 <wrtlprnft> #google "'madmax|pt'"
21:06 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Search took 0.03 seconds: :: Portugal Telecom :: PT: <http://www.telecom.pt/>; Partido dos Trabalhadores ( PT ): <http://www.pt.org.br/>; PT Central - Main Menu. Comprehensive Physical Therapy Information: <http://www.ptcentral.com/>; Chrysler - PT Cruiser - Small Sport Compact Hatchback Cars: <http://www.chrysler.com/pt_cruiser/>; WebElements: Platinum: (1 more message)
21:06 <madmax|pt> well, the searches are getting faster
21:06 <wrtlprnft> yeah
21:06 <Vanhayes> #google fight Vanhayes|pt madmax|pt
21:06 <wrtlprnft> #google Vanhayes 
21:06 <armabot> Vanhayes: madmax|pt: 512000000, Vanhayes|pt: 389000000
21:06 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Search took 0.32 seconds: User: Vanhayes - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/User:Vanhayes>; Alientrap.org :: Viewing profile: <http://www.alientrap.org/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=242&sid=5b7119791fc2aadf7f92937f29cefca7>; na-wt.org :: Viewing profile: <http://na- (3 more messages)
21:07 <madmax|pt> pwn
21:07 <Vanhayes> lol
21:07 <wrtlprnft> alientrap?
21:07 <Vanhayes> alientrao?
21:07 <Vanhayes> er
21:07 <McSpiddles> #google fight McSpiddles wrtlprnft Vanhayes madmax|pt z-man 
21:07 <madmax|pt> #google fight wrtlprnft|pt madmax|pt McSpiddles|pt Vanhayes|pt
21:07 <armabot> McSpiddles: madmax|pt: 512000000, z-man: 2980000, wrtlprnft: 9760, Vanhayes: 272, McSpiddles: 2
21:07 <armabot> madmax|pt: wrtlprnft|pt: 532000000, Vanhayes|pt: 530000000, madmax|pt: 512000000, McSpiddles|pt: 391000000
21:07 <McSpiddles> growl
21:07 <madmax|pt> erm...
21:07 <Vanhayes> ha
21:07 <madmax|pt> lol
21:07 <Vanhayes> my name seems to change numbers quite a bit
21:08 <madmax|pt> #google fight wrtlprnft madmax McSpiddles Vanhayes 
21:08 <armabot> madmax|pt: madmax: 1360000, wrtlprnft: 9760, Vanhayes: 272, McSpiddles: 2
21:08 <madmax|pt> this is the right one
21:08 <madmax|pt> so... pwn
21:08 <wrtlprnft> #google fight [wakespam]
21:08 <armabot> wrtlprnft: [Xpert]DarkStar, armabot, cusco, deja_vu, free-kill, guru3, Lucifer_arma, Luke-Jr, madmax|pt, McSpiddles, mkzelda, Niii, Sakireth, SuPeRTaRD-bbl, Vanhayes, wejp, wrtlprnft, and z-man: 0
21:08 <McSpiddles> why do i only get 2
21:08 <wrtlprnft> gah
21:08 -!- McSpiddles is now known as spidey
21:08 <spidey> #google fight madmax spidey 
21:08 <armabot> spidey: spidey: 5550000, madmax: 1360000
21:09 <spidey> pwn
21:09 <Vanhayes> O ya alien trap was for a freeware game called nexuiz, it wasnt that good
21:09 <wrtlprnft> #google fight deja_vu madmax Vanhayes wrtlprnft McSpiddles guru3 ghableska Lucifer_arma Luke-Jr mkzelda wejp cusco Sakireth spidey Niii free-kill DarkStar 
21:09 <Vanhayes> lol
21:09 <guru3> ><
21:09 <armabot> wrtlprnft: DarkStar: 14300000, cusco: 8120000, spidey: 5260000, madmax: 1360000, Niii: 445000, free-kill: 107000, deja_vu: 87800, Luke-Jr: 82900, wejp: 38300, guru3: 19600, wrtlprnft: 9760, ghableska: 489, mkzelda: 353, Vanhayes: 272, Lucifer_arma: 85, Sakireth: 26, McSpiddles: 2
21:09 <madmax|pt> crap
21:09 <wrtlprnft> taking pretty long o_O
21:09 <Vanhayes> can u say wakespam?
21:09 <guru3> lol
21:09 <guru3> aye Vanhayes 
21:09 <wrtlprnft> i was hoping it would #google fight everyone
21:10 <madmax|pt> #google fight Italy Germany
21:10 <armabot> madmax|pt: Germany: 1800000000, Italy: 1060000000
21:10  * wrtlprnft has to go beat Luke-Jr 
21:10 <Vanhayes> #google fight Canada "the rest of the world"
21:10 <spidey> i came in 3rd xD
21:10 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: Unexpected error from Google; please report this to the Supybot developers.
21:10 <Vanhayes> hmm
21:10 <spidey> you broke it
21:10 <Vanhayes> #google fight Canada "the world"
21:10 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: Unexpected error from Google; please report this to the Supybot developers.
21:10 <Vanhayes> bah
21:11 <spidey> #google fight canada america
21:11 <armabot> spidey: Error: Unexpected error from Google; please report this to the Supybot developers.
21:11 <spidey> O_o
21:11 <Vanhayes> #google fight Canada Germany
21:11 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: Unexpected error from Google; please report this to the Supybot developers.
21:11 <deja_vu> hehe
21:11 <wrtlprnft> #g 1+2
21:11 <Vanhayes> opps
21:11 <armabot> 1 + 2 = 3
21:11 <spidey> lol
21:11 <madmax|pt> #google fight portugal france
21:11 <armabot> madmax|pt: france: 2050000000, portugal: 667000000
21:11 <madmax|pt> heh
21:11 <Vanhayes> #google fight Canada Germany
21:11 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: Unexpected error from Google; please report this to the Supybot developers.
21:11 <Vanhayes> Bah
21:11 <spidey> are the results to big?
21:11 <wrtlprnft> #google fight canada germany
21:11 <Vanhayes> #google fight Canada 
21:11 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: Unexpected error from Google; please report this to the Supybot developers.
21:11 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: Unexpected error from Google; please report this to the Supybot developers.
21:11 <deja_vu> :O
21:12 <deja_vu> canada is evil *g*
21:12 <Vanhayes> #google fight germany canada
21:12 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: Unexpected error from Google; please report this to the Supybot developers.
21:12 <spidey> #google fight deja_vu
21:12 <wrtlprnft> canada: 2,310,000,000 
21:12 <armabot> spidey: deja_vu: 87800
21:12 <spidey> :p
21:12 <spidey> wait
21:12 <spidey> where's my points
21:12 <spidey> O_o
21:12 <madmax|pt> #google fight itunes winamp
21:12 <armabot> madmax|pt: itunes: 257000000, winamp: 49400000
21:12 <Vanhayes> bah winamp is better
21:12 <madmax|pt> on windows...
21:12 <madmax|pt> but on mac?
21:13 <wrtlprnft> #google fight "Microsoft Windows" "Gentoo Linux"
21:13 <madmax|pt> :P
21:13 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Microsoft Windows: 942000000, Gentoo Linux: 29100000
21:13 <Vanhayes> pwnt
21:13 <wrtlprnft> pfft
21:13 <Luke-Jr> #google fight "Microsoft Windows" Gentoo
21:13 <madmax|pt> #google fight "OS X" "Linux"
21:13 <spidey> owned and a half
21:13 <armabot> madmax|pt: Linux: 1300000000, OS X: 761000000
21:13 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50871C55.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Success]
21:13 <madmax|pt> lol
21:13 <wrtlprnft> #google fight "windows bug" "linux bug"
21:13 <Vanhayes> heh
21:13 <spidey> mmm?
21:13 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: Error connecting to Google.com.
21:13 <spidey> O_o
21:13 <madmax|pt> lol
21:13 <Vanhayes> u broke it
21:14 <wrtlprnft> #google fight "i hate windows" "i hate linux"
21:14 <spidey> #google fight wrtlprnft spidey 
21:14 <Luke-Jr> .
21:14 <armabot> wrtlprnft: i hate windows: 35700000, i hate linux: 19400000
21:14 <armabot> spidey: spidey: 5550000, wrtlprnft: 9760
21:14 <spidey> pwn
21:14 <wrtlprnft> spidey: that's not all you
21:14 <wrtlprnft> more people hate windows, it seems
21:14 <Vanhayes> #google wrtlprnft
21:14 <armabot> Vanhayes: Search took 0.29 seconds: wrtlprnft - CIA: <http://cia.navi.cx/stats/author/wrtlprnft>; wrtlprnft - CIA: <http://cia.navi.cx/stats/author/wrtlprnft?s_message=1>; User: Wrtlprnft - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/User:Wrtlprnft>; User talk: Wrtlprnft - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/User_talk:Wrtlprnft>; (2 more messages)
21:14 <Vanhayes> #more
21:14 <armabot> Vanhayes: wrtlprnft - About: <http://my.opera.com/wrtlprnft/about/>; wrtlprnft's pastebin - Untitled - post number 65650: <http://wrtlprnft.pastebin.ca/65650>; wrtlprnft's pastebin - Mine - post number 69867: <http://wrtlprnft.pastebin.ca/newest.php>; Armagetron Forums :: Viewing profile: <http://forums.armagetronad.net/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=855&>; fortune: (1 more message)
21:14 <Vanhayes> #more
21:14 <armabot> Vanhayes: <http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/fortune.php>; #armagetron @ freenode stats by Guru3: <http://guru3.sytes.net/ircstats/armagetron.html>
21:14 <spidey> #less
21:14 <armabot> spidey: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more.  To do so, call this command with that person's nick.
21:14 <spidey> O_o
21:14 <wrtlprnft> #help less
21:14 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (less <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo $who: <imagine fancy scroll features here> [more $*]".
21:15 <Vanhayes> #less echo the
21:15 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: I haven't seen echo.
21:15 <Vanhayes> er
21:15 <Vanhayes> #less Vanhayes
21:15 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: That's all, there is no more.
21:15 <wrtlprnft> #echo [canada2][canada2][canada2]
21:15 <armabot> O Canada! Our home and native land! | True patriot love in all thy sons command. | With glowing hearts we see thee rise, | The True North strong and free! | From far and wide, O Canada, | We stand on guard for thee. | God keep our land glorious and free! | O Canada, we stand on guard for thee! | O Canada, we stand on guard for thee! O Canada! Our home and native land! | True patriot love (2 more messages)
21:15 <wrtlprnft> #less
21:15 <armabot> wrtlprnft: <imagine fancy scroll features here> in all thy sons command. | With glowing hearts we see thee rise, | The True North strong and free! | From far and wide, O Canada, | We stand on guard for thee. | God keep our land glorious and free! | O Canada, we stand on guard for thee! | O Canada, we stand on guard for thee! O Canada! Our home and native land! | True patriot love in all thy sons command. | With glowing hearts we see
21:15 <wrtlprnft> #less
21:15 <armabot> wrtlprnft: <imagine fancy scroll features here> thee rise, | The True North strong and free! | From far and wide, O Canada, | We stand on guard for thee. | God keep our land glorious and free! | O Canada, we stand on guard for thee! | O Canada, we stand on guard for thee!
21:15 <wrtlprnft> o_O
21:15 <spidey> O_o
21:15 <Vanhayes> lol
21:16  * Vanhayes stands up and sings
21:16  * wrtlprnft too
21:16  * spidey knocks them off there perch
21:16 <wrtlprnft> I'm tempted to go to some big soccer screen with a canada flag
21:16 <wrtlprnft> like where they show the game right now
21:17  * spidey wonders if he can run a server from his webserver O_o
21:17  * spidey tries
21:17 <wrtlprnft> cgi?
21:18 <spidey> i have shell access to it :p
21:18 <wrtlprnft> then you can
21:18 <Vanhayes> #google Vanhayes
21:18 <armabot> Vanhayes: Search took 0.05 seconds: User: Vanhayes - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/User:Vanhayes>; Alientrap.org :: Viewing profile: <http://www.alientrap.org/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=242&sid=5b7119791fc2aadf7f92937f29cefca7>; na-wt.org :: Viewing profile: <http://na- (3 more messages)
21:18 <Vanhayes> #more
21:18 <armabot> Vanhayes: wt.org/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=32&sid=c4ba6d2fd154eed7d5625a0aa7bf5aae>; Armagetron Advanced Servers: <http://aabeta.dashjr.org/serverlist.php?sort=address>; Armagetron Advanced Servers: <http://aabeta.dashjr.org/serverlist.php?sort=version>; Armagetron Forums :: View topic - BUG cries on Bugfarm Fortress ...: (2 more messages)
21:18 <Vanhayes> #more
21:18 <armabot> Vanhayes: <http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=3081&start=135&>; Armagetron Forums :: View topic - BUG cries on Bugfarm Fortress ...: <http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=3081&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30&sid=5180dc52e99935abfe9236d27e742c4b>; #armagetron @ freenode stats by Guru3: <http://guru3.sytes.net/ircstats/armagetron.html>; drumandbass.at - Members List: (1 more message)
21:18 <Vanhayes> #more
21:18 <armabot> Vanhayes: <http://v3.drumandbass.at/board/memberlist.php?s=05a63bc523c426809ce82c8190e05f58&ltr=V>; Petfinder.com Message Boards :: View Forum - Happy Tails [ ]: <http://forums.petfinder.com/viewforum.php?f=3&topicdays=0&start=450&>
21:19 <wrtlprnft> happy tails on perfinder! yay
21:19 <wrtlprnft> *pet
21:19 <Vanhayes> hmm that isnt me
21:19 <wrtlprnft> that's what they all say
21:19 <guru3> gah too much stuff with my name in it
21:20 <wrtlprnft> #google blaze
21:20 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Search took 0.21 seconds: Planet Blaze: <http://www.planetblaze.com/>; Blaze Media Pro: <http://www.blazemp.com/>; BLAZE: <http://www.blaze.com/>; Enterprise Decision Management: Blaze Advisor - Business Rules ...: <http://www.fairisaac.com/rules>; 104-1 The Blaze - Lincoln's Pure Rock: <http://www.kibz.com/>; Music and Audio Software by Blaze Audio: (1 more message)
21:20 <wrtlprnft> #google fight blaze
21:20 <armabot> wrtlprnft: blaze: 37900000
21:20 <Vanhayes> lol
21:20 <spidey> acid@server [~/public_html/phpnuke]# send
21:20 <spidey> -jailshell: send: command not found
21:20 <spidey> wtf
21:20 <wrtlprnft> not all spidey
21:20 <wrtlprnft> send?
21:20 <wrtlprnft> #man send
21:20 <spidey> random
21:20 <spidey> lol
21:20 <armabot> wrtlprnft: send, sendto, sendmsg - send a message on a socket
21:20 <Vanhayes> #help man
21:20 <armabot> Vanhayes: (man <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "rss http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/man.php?c=$1&p=@1".
21:20 <spidey> what's a jailshell....
21:21 <wrtlprnft> one in a chroot
21:21 <spidey> mmm
21:21 <wrtlprnft> #wikipedia jailshell
21:21 <armabot> wrtlprnft: No matches found. (Search took 0.46 seconds)
21:22 <Vanhayes> ahahahaha http://www.bigfootforums.com/index.php?s=968e70e4633ccf004cf9cbf453850f6c&showtopic=10700&pid=216189&st=20&#entry216189
21:22 <Vanhayes> heh not me
21:22 <madmax|pt> "One toe - Booger" o_O
21:22  * wrtlprnft is happy to be able to say that wrtlprnft is wrtlprnft, always
21:23 <spidey> mmm
21:23 <Vanhayes> lol there is more Vanhayes' than i thought there would be
21:24 <spidey> .3 source not on the site? O_o
21:24 <wrtlprnft> #fight "windows sucks" "windows rocks"
21:24 <armabot> wrtlprnft: windows rocks: 21100000, windows sucks: 16600000
21:24 <wrtlprnft> o_O
21:24 <Vanhayes> lol
21:24 <wrtlprnft> some people have weird opinions
21:24 <deja_vu> hehe
21:24 <wrtlprnft> #fight "gentoo sucks" "gentoo rocks"
21:24 <Vanhayes> #fight armagetron Gltron
21:24 <armabot> wrtlprnft: gentoo rocks: 1390000, gentoo sucks: 313000
21:24 <armabot> Vanhayes: armagetron: 278000, Gltron: 169000
21:24 <wrtlprnft> yay
21:25 <wrtlprnft> GLTron should be part of armagetronad anyways
21:25 <wrtlprnft> as gTehSuck
21:27 <spidey> but Armagetron is harder to beat
21:27 <spidey> O_o
21:28 <Vanhayes> #fight spidey van hayes
21:28 <armabot> Vanhayes: van: 1600000000, hayes: 87100000, spidey: 5550000
21:28 <Vanhayes> er
21:29 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r5581 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/config/aiplayers.cfg.in: Renamed the bot Armagetron to ArmagetronAd
21:29 <Vanhayes> #fight spidey "van hayes"
21:29 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: Error connecting to Google.com.
21:29 <Vanhayes> grr
21:29 <Vanhayes> #fight spidey "van hayes"
21:29 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: Error connecting to Google.com.
21:29 <Vanhayes> bah
21:31 <Vanhayes> #fight spidey "van hayes"
21:31 <armabot> Vanhayes: van hayes: 19300000, spidey: 5260000
21:31 <spidey> ftp> send /home/spidey/Desktop/armagetronad-dedicated-0.3.0.i686-generic-linux-gnu.package
21:31 <spidey> local: /home/spidey/Desktop/armagetronad-dedicated-0.3.0.i686-generic-linux-gnu.package remote: /home/spidey/Desktop/armagetronad-dedicated-0.3.0.i686-generic-linux-gnu.package
21:31 <spidey> 200 PORT command successful
21:31 <spidey> 553-Can't open that file: No such file or directory
21:31 <spidey> 553 Rename/move failure: No such file or directory
21:31 <spidey> BAH
21:32 <madmax|pt> o_O
21:32 <Vanhayes> Can anyone tell me what heberge is?
21:33 <spidey> mmpfft
21:33 <spidey> ftp> get http://ufpr.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/armagetronad/armagetronad-dedicated-0.3.0.i686-generic-linux-gnu.package
21:33 <spidey> local: http://ufpr.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/armagetronad/armagetronad-dedicated-0.3.0.i686-generic-linux-gnu.package remote: http://ufpr.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/armagetronad/armagetronad-dedicated-0.3.0.i686-generic-linux-gnu.package
21:33 <spidey> local: http://ufpr.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/armagetronad/armagetronad-dedicated-0.3.0.i686-generic-linux-gnu.package: No such file or directory
21:36 <Vanhayes> #list
21:36 <armabot> Vanhayes: Admin, Alias, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, Dict, Games, Google, Herald, Insult, Later, Math, Misc, News, Owner, Praise, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Time, Unix, User, Utilities, and Web
21:36 <madmax|pt> #man get
21:36 <armabot> madmax|pt: (This would apply to all commands accepting a 2-digit year as || (as well as the SID of the version to be eventually created by || (delta) of an SCCS file to be retrieved. The table shows, for || -c cutoff || -r SID || 1969 to 1999 inclusive, and values in the range [00,68] shall refer to || Any number of non-numeric characters may separate the various 2-digit || (5 more messages)
21:36 <madmax|pt> o_O
21:36 <Vanhayes> lol
21:36 <Vanhayes> #praise madmax|pt for his skill with armabot
21:36  * armabot falls down to his knees and praises madmax|pt for his skill with armabot
21:36 <madmax|pt> dont you wan wget instead?
21:37 <madmax|pt> err want
21:37 <spidey> oh yea
21:37 <spidey> xD
21:38 <spidey> 100%[=========================================================>] 1,178,119    135.88K/s    ETA 00:00
21:38 <spidey> 20:38:07 (135.88 KB/s) - `armagetronad-dedicated-0.3.0.i686-generic-linux-gnu.package' saved [1178119/1178119]
21:38 <spidey> lol
21:38 <madmax|pt> LOL
21:38 <madmax|pt> seemed like it
21:38 <spidey> acid@server [~/public_html/phpnuke]# ./armagetronad-dedicated-0.3.0.i686-generic-linux-gnu.package
21:38 <spidey> -jailshell: ./armagetronad-dedicated-0.3.0.i686-generic-linux-gnu.package: Permission denied
21:38 <spidey> haha
21:41 <wrtlprnft> spidey: bash arma*
21:41 <wrtlprnft> or chmod a+x arma*
21:42 <spidey> lol
21:42 <spidey> worked
21:42  * wrtlprnft 's gonna have some fun accessing spidey's server config via http
21:43 <spidey> An error occured while trying to ask the user for the password: Unable to allocate a pseudo terminal: Exec format error
21:43 <spidey> Attempting to continue without asking for password...
21:43 <spidey> autopackage/install: line 1: /sbin/ldconfig: No such file or directory
21:43 <spidey> The version of glib needs to be upgraded to version 2.0 or higher.
21:43 <spidey> The autopackage support code could not be installed.
21:43 <spidey> It can be manually downloaded and installed by running the
21:43 <spidey> installation script located in the downloaded archive.
21:43 <spidey> O_o
21:43 <wrtlprnft> gosh
21:43 <spidey> um
21:43 <wrtlprnft> get a source and compile it on your machine with the right prefix
21:43 <wrtlprnft> then upload and just unpack it
21:43 <spidey> i think i can compile on the server
21:43 <spidey> sec
21:44 <wrtlprnft> autopackage is way too bloated, like those windows installers
21:44 <spidey> acid@server [~/public_html/phpnuke]# make
21:44 <spidey> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
21:44 <spidey> i can :p
21:44 <wrtlprnft> that doesn't mean you have g++ and the right libraries
21:44 <wrtlprnft> namely libxml
21:44 <spidey> mm
21:44 <spidey> i can try
21:45 <spidey> ...
21:45 <spidey> no source for 2.8 and .3
21:45 <spidey> O_o
21:47 <Vanhayes> sweet canada has 3 people now
21:48 <guru3> speaking of canada
21:48 <guru3> i saw a movie described as a 'canadian thriller'
21:48 <guru3> isn't that a bit of an oxymoron?
21:48 <Vanhayes> hey, canda is thrilling
21:48 <Vanhayes> er
21:48 <Vanhayes> canada
21:49 <Vanhayes> it can be anyway, as much as any place I guess
21:49 <Vanhayes> what movie was it btw?
21:50 <guru3> beats me
21:50 <guru3> more like
21:50 <guru3> i saw of a movie
21:51 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50871C55.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron
21:51 <Vanhayes> #google Sir Markus Perry
21:51 <armabot> Vanhayes: Search took 0.41 seconds: Welcome Visitor MUSIC | LOG IN/REGISTER | COLLABS | GUEST BOOK ...: <http://www.96decibels.com/>; Slagwerkwereld.com artist, artistpages, artistnews: <http://www.slagwerkwereld.com/artists/artist.php>; Hampton, New Brunswick - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hampton,_New_Brunswick>; Markus Pierson Posters at AllPosters.com: (2 more messages)
21:52 <Vanhayes> Ha
21:53 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-216-188-42.client.mchsi.com] has joined #Armagetron
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21:53 <Vanhayes> wb ghableska
21:53 <ghableska> ty vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv\
21:53 <ghableska> er
21:53 -!- Niii [n=Niii@lnr56-1-82-246-48-71.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #armagetron
21:53 <ghableska> ty Vanhayes
21:53 <ghableska> that was a longer freeze than normal...
21:53 <Vanhayes> heh get a wired keboard
21:54 <ghableska> :)
21:54 <Vanhayes> keyboard*
21:57 <wrtlprnft> spidey: sure there should be sources...
21:58 <spidey> only source for the newest version is 2.8.2
21:58 <spidey> found it on the front page
21:58 <spidey> it's not in the beta page :p
21:58 <wrtlprnft> http://beta.armagetronad.net/?product=client&branch=0.2.8&hideold=0&hideold=1&os=%28Source%29&arch=x86&bitness=_32&format=#download
21:58 <ghableska> :P
21:58 <wrtlprnft> http://beta.armagetronad.net/?product=client&branch=0.3&hideold=0&hideold=1&os=%28Source%29&arch=x86&bitness=_32&format=#download
21:58 <spidey> :|
21:58 <wrtlprnft> 4 files, choose one
21:59 <wrtlprnft> tbz2 is best
21:59 <spidey> um
21:59 <spidey> no...
21:59 <spidey> i need the server
21:59 <spidey> not client
21:59 <spidey> :p
21:59 <wrtlprnft> err
21:59 <wrtlprnft> same thing
21:59 <spidey> not
21:59 <wrtlprnft> the sources are for both the client and server
21:59 <wrtlprnft> yes
21:59 <spidey> O_o
21:59 <wrtlprnft> heck, i have compiled arma 100 times more often than you
21:59 <ghableska> o_O
21:59 <wrtlprnft> ./configure --disable-glout
22:00 <spidey> sh-2.05b$ ./configure --diable-glout
22:00 <spidey> sh: ./configure: Permission denied
22:00 <spidey> lol
22:00 <wrtlprnft> you didn't take the zip, right?
22:00 <spidey> bash ./configure
22:01 <spidey> nope
22:01 <spidey> ls
22:01 <spidey> er
22:01 <wrtlprnft> then there's something weird with your permissions
22:01 <wrtlprnft> spidey: and tell me where you found a server source file on armagetronad.net
22:01 <spidey> configure: error: C preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
22:01 <spidey> See `config.log' for more details.
22:01 <spidey> sh-2.05b$                             
22:01 <spidey> O_o
22:01 <wrtlprnft> that would be extremely odd
22:02 <spidey> it's umm
22:02 <spidey> click downloads
22:02 <spidey> then goto the last second
22:02 <spidey> there's the source
22:02 <wrtlprnft> yeah
22:02 <wrtlprnft> for both dedicated and client, one file
22:02 <wrtlprnft> and those happen to be the same files as the ones on aabeta
22:03 <wrtlprnft> Online Servers 
22:03 <wrtlprnft> Come join |AST| Paul or |AST| Paul on Norm's Place!
22:03 <wrtlprnft> maybe i could join them both?
22:03 <guru3> never could work that bug out...
22:03 <wrtlprnft> guru3: ?
22:04 <guru3> where it showed the same person twice ><
22:04 <wrtlprnft> oh
22:04 <wrtlprnft> just copy the array
22:04 <wrtlprnft> then get a random element
22:04 <wrtlprnft> then print that
22:04 <wrtlprnft> then delete it from the copy
22:04 <wrtlprnft> then get a random element again
22:05 <guru3> i forget what i tried to make it do exactly...
22:06 <wrtlprnft> show two different people on the same server assuming there's more than one?
22:06 <guru3> yeah
22:06 <guru3> but i mean what i tried to make it do to avoid showing the same person twice
22:06 <wrtlprnft> looks like it didn't work O_o
22:07 <guru3> it does sometimes
22:07 <wrtlprnft> Online Servers 
22:07 <wrtlprnft> Come join ~"XzL.Shaggy or ~"XzL.Shaggy on XzL. Clan "The Server"!
22:07 <wrtlprnft> again
22:07 <guru3> whoops
22:16 <wrtlprnft> did you guys ever notice the warning text on aabeta changes?
22:20  * wrtlprnft thinks about things to add to that list
22:21 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50871C55.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
22:27 <armabot>  Executed 'aabetaupdate'
22:27 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r5582 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/index.php: Added a few more disasters :)
22:28 -!- wejp [n=j0hannes@i577BA5F2.versanet.de] has quit [Connection timed out]
22:28 <wrtlprnft> doesn't work, they don't appear on aabeta :(
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22:37 <ghableska> Vanhayes: is your screen frozen?
22:37 <Vanhayes> I was disconnected
22:38 <ghableska> me too
22:38 <ghableska> everyone froze for about a minute
22:38 <ghableska> ;)
22:38 <Vanhayes> lol
22:38 <Vanhayes> hmm cant get back on
22:39 <ghableska> I'm at deathmatch
22:40 <Vanhayes> me too :)
22:50 <Luke-Jr> ugh
22:50 <Luke-Jr> Debian is annoying
22:50 <Luke-Jr> wrtlprnft: what disasters?
22:53 <spidey> O_o
22:55 -!- armabot [n=armabot@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
22:59 <madmax|pt> lagfarm indeed
23:00 <ghableska> :P
23:01 -!- armabot [n=supybot@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #armagetron
23:02 -!- armabot [n=supybot@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
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23:12 <madmax|pt> its the 2nd time armabot trips his modem line
23:15 <spidey> ok
23:15 <spidey> going to the river
23:15 <spidey> bbl
23:16 <madmax|pt> bye
23:16 <cusco> why is debian anoying? :(
23:16 <cusco> tronning in
23:17 <Luke-Jr> cusco: gotta install a ton of extra crap just to compile
23:17 <cusco> I used to have list of packages
23:20 <madmax|pt> i think everyone is either watching football or at the 4th july celebrations
23:21 <wrtlprnft> Luke-Jr: the disasters on the aabeta page
23:21 <cusco> lol
23:21 <wrtlprnft> It is possible that they may impregnate you (even if you are male!), stop your (other) addictions, become flatter than a pancake, hide your newspaper, or melt your monitor!
23:24 <ghableska> o_O
23:25 <madmax|pt> thats too sick wrtlprnft
23:25 <wrtlprnft> i didn't do that...
23:25 <wrtlprnft> http://beta.armagetronad.net/
23:25 <wrtlprnft> err
23:26 <wrtlprnft> http://beta.armagetronad.net/?product=client&branch=0.3&hideold=0&hideold=1&os=GNU%2FLinux&arch=x86&bitness=_32&format=#download
23:26 <wrtlprnft> that page
23:26 <wrtlprnft> look at the big warnings
23:26 <wrtlprnft> the text is different every time you reload
23:26 <guru3> muahaha
23:26 <guru3> i just found the best app i wrote in java
23:27 <guru3> it cracks me up
23:27 <madmax|pt> o_O
23:27 <madmax|pt> is that on purpose?
23:27 <guru3> looks like i wrote it a couple years ago
23:27 <guru3> http://electricpotential.net/temp/repeat.java
23:27 <guru3> circa nov 5 2003
23:28 <wrtlprnft> nice app
23:28 <madmax|pt> italy 2-0 :O
23:28 <madmax|pt> in the last minute
23:28 <guru3> hahahaha
23:28 <guru3> germany got pwnt
23:28 <wrtlprnft> yeah
23:28 <wrtlprnft> you can here it all around my apartment
23:28 <wrtlprnft> *hear
23:29 <guru3> my parents were all shouting too ><
23:29 <wrtlprnft> my parents aren't shouting
23:29 <wrtlprnft> everyone else in the block is
23:29 <deja_vu> you should hear my mother^^
23:29 <ghableska> lol
23:29 <madmax|pt> lol
23:29 <madmax|pt> i think everyone likes the germans
23:29 <madmax|pt> lol
23:29 <wrtlprnft> we have lots of italians around here
23:30 <wrtlprnft> that's why it's so loud :D
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23:30 <wrtlprnft> probably z-man will be so depressed tomorrow that he'll ignore my BUG cries on lagfarm :S
23:30 <guru3> lol
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23:31  * ghableska was happily suiciding :P
23:31 <wrtlprnft> but fun playing around with the config on that server :)
23:32 <ghableska> hehe
23:32 <ghableska> it was nearly impossible when you made the map smaller
23:45 <guru3> sleep time
23:45 <guru3> good night
23:46 <madmax|pt> cya guru3
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23:53  * wrtlprnft would paste the italian national anthem in here if it wasn't so bloody long
23:53  * wrtlprnft posts a link instead
23:53 <wrtlprnft> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Il_Canto_degli_Italiani#Lyrics
23:53 <madmax|pt> o_O
23:55 <mkzelda> how'd everyone celebrate the 4th of july?
23:55 <ghableska> O_o
23:55 <Vanhayes> like this
23:55  * wrtlprnft didn't
23:55 <Vanhayes> #canada2
23:55 <armabot> O Canada! Our home and native land! | True patriot love in all thy sons command. | With glowing hearts we see thee rise, | The True North strong and free! | From far and wide, O Canada, | We stand on guard for thee. | God keep our land glorious and free! | O Canada, we stand on guard for thee! | O Canada, we stand on guard for thee!
23:55  * ghableska didn't
23:56 <wrtlprnft> who cares about the US?
23:56 <wrtlprnft> ;)
23:56 <mkzelda> What? you mean you dont have a day to celebrate fireworks and the 4th day of the month?
23:56 <wrtlprnft> no
23:56 <ghableska> we do
23:56 <ghableska> who?
23:56 <Vanhayes> I have canada day
23:56 <wrtlprnft> i missed it :(
23:56  * mkzelda likes asking non US people that, just to sound like a typical stupid american
23:56 <Vanhayes> lol
23:56 <mkzelda> its the one day not to speak to english people
23:56 <ghableska> haha
23:57  * ghableska gets silenced :)
23:57 <Vanhayes> wrtlprnft it rained all day here but stopp around 10 pm so we had a good fireworks show
23:57 <cusco> germany
23:57 <cusco> go home
23:57 <cusco> :p
23:57 <mkzelda> I manage a pool, it was 100 degrees and slammed
23:57 <wrtlprnft> we had a nice and sunny day until around 8PM when munich went crazy again for the WM
23:58 <deja_vu> :s
23:58 <wrtlprnft> then it wasn't nice at all anymore, although still sunny
23:58 <Vanhayes> WM?
23:58 <wrtlprnft> world cup
23:58 <Vanhayes> er
23:58 <wrtlprnft> soccer
23:59 <ghableska> football
23:59 <Vanhayes> no its soccer :)
23:59 <ghableska> football :P
23:59 <cusco> footbal
23:59 <wrtlprnft> crazy-game-where-22-people-chase-a-ball-around
23:59 <mkzelda> i've never seen so many mexicans fit into one vehicle
23:59 <cusco> soccer is only in america
23:59 <Vanhayes> and canada
23:59 <mkzelda> they did nothing to help the stereotype
23:59 <cusco> wrtlprnft: don't forget the referee
23:59 <Vanhayes> tho some call it football
23:59 <ghableska> and you really don't use your feet that much in american football
23:59 <cusco> right.. canada
23:59 <mkzelda> at least, not to manipulate the ball

Log from 2006-07-05:
--- Day changed Wed Jul 05 2006
00:00 <cusco> footbal
00:00 <mkzelda> 4 cars in the parking lot, and 100's of people in the pool
00:00 <mkzelda> 23 people got out of one van
00:00 <Vanhayes> lol
00:00 <cusco> lol
00:00 <cusco> dudes
00:00 <cusco> what was that command
00:00 <cusco> to set the font
00:00 <cusco> on 0.3
00:01 <wrtlprnft> cusco: the referee doesn't really chase the ball, he chases the players who chase the ball
00:01 <mkzelda> /set_the_font_to_0.3
00:01 <wrtlprnft> funt_file
00:01 <wrtlprnft> *font_file
00:01 <wrtlprnft> put the .ttf into textures/
00:01 <mkzelda> oh, that should totally be the command
00:01 <cusco> thanks
00:01 <cusco> yes 
00:01 <mkzelda> its a lot easier to remember
00:01  * Vanhayes wonders why soccer is so popular
00:01  * wrtlprnft too
00:02 <mkzelda> i didnt know it was
00:02 <Vanhayes> is there fights in soccer?
00:02 <mkzelda> only between the fans and the refs
00:02 <Vanhayes> lol
00:02 <Vanhayes> its popular in not northamerica it seems
00:03  * ghableska doesn't care about sports :P
00:03 <cusco> i not notrh america
00:03  * Vanhayes doesnt care about many sports
00:03 <cusco> ghableska: you just killed me
00:03 <cusco> :(
00:03 <ghableska> :(
00:03 <cusco> really bad
00:03 <Vanhayes> some are good
00:03  * wrtlprnft doesn't care about sports at all, particulatily not soccer
00:04 <Vanhayes> I watch hockry and boxing, though not much of either lately
00:04 <Vanhayes> hockey*
00:04 <mkzelda> hockey is pretty popular here in raleigh :D
00:04 <Vanhayes> where is releigh?
00:04 <mkzelda> North Carolina
00:05 <Vanhayes> lol
00:05 <mkzelda> Carolina Hurricanes
00:05 <Vanhayes> bah
00:06 <mkzelda> most ppl ive known generally only care about nfl/ncaa football and ncaa basketball
00:06 <ghableska> ncaa?
00:06 <Vanhayes> I find basket ball pretty boring
00:07 <Vanhayes> fottball is ok sometimes
00:07 <Vanhayes> football*
00:07 <Vanhayes> non soccer football that is
00:08 <madmax|pt> heh
00:08 <mkzelda> ncaa = college/university level, before pro
00:08 <mkzelda> better to watch before they get paid
00:08 <mkzelda> and have nowhere higher to go
00:09 <mkzelda> where they play ~16 games a season instead of 80
00:09 <mkzelda> so they try hard every game
00:11 <cusco> raleigh is a bicycle mark
00:11 <cusco> or make
00:12 <Vanhayes> #google raleigh
00:12 <armabot> Vanhayes: Search took 0.22 seconds: City of Raleigh: <http://www.raleigh-nc.org/>; Raleigh USA: <http://www.raleighusa.com/>; Greater Raleigh Convention & Visitors Bureau: <http://www.visitraleigh.com/>; Raleigh Chamber of Commerce: <http://www.raleighchamber.org/>; Raleigh Bikes UK: <http://www.raleighbikes.com/>; newsobserver.com | Home: <http://www.newsobserver.com/>; Raleigh (1 more message)
00:12 <Vanhayes> #more
00:12 <armabot> Vanhayes: /Durham International Airport - RDU: <http://www.rdu.com/>; Raleigh Information Site, Virtual Raleigh , North Carolina: <http://www.virtualraleigh.com/>; National Weather Service Forecast Office: <http://www.erh.noaa.gov/er/rah/>; *** Raleigh OnLine - Raleigh , Durham, Chapel Hill, Triangle, NC ...: <http://www.webs4you.com/raleigh/>
00:12 <cusco> #google raleigh bikes
00:12 <armabot> cusco: Search took 0.48 seconds: Raleigh Bikes UK: <http://www.raleighbikes.com/>; Raleigh USA Bikes for road, mountain, tandem bicycles, performance ...: <http://www.raleighusa.com/>; Bike Registration- Raleigh USA: <http://www.raleighusa.com/register.asp>; Older Raleigh Bicycles-the Evolution of the Raleigh Sports, by ...: <http://www.sheldonbrown.com/raleigh.html>; English Three-speeds- (2 more messages)
00:12 <Vanhayes> lol
00:12 <cusco> :/
00:13 <madmax|pt> you really like #more...
00:13 <madmax|pt> #more and #more and #more and ...
00:13 <armabot> madmax|pt: Error: I haven't seen and.
00:13 <madmax|pt> lol
00:13 <Vanhayes> ha
00:13 <madmax|pt> i haven't seen and neither
00:13 <Vanhayes> #seen and
00:13 <armabot> Vanhayes: I have not seen and.
00:13 <madmax|pt> #seen noobishtronner
00:13 <armabot> madmax|pt: I have not seen noobishtronner.
00:13 <madmax|pt> nope
00:14 <Vanhayes> #seen madmax|pt
00:14 <armabot> Vanhayes: madmax|pt was last seen in #armagetron 23 seconds ago: <madmax|pt> nope
00:14 <Vanhayes> #seen fcukfcuk
00:14 <armabot> Vanhayes: fcukfcuk was last seen in #armagetron 5 days, 7 hours, 33 minutes, and 52 seconds ago: <fcukfcuk> the keys are like right next to each other.
00:15 <ghableska> haha
00:15 <Vanhayes> heh
00:15 <ghableska> I remember that :)
00:15 <Vanhayes> I dont
00:15 <Vanhayes> #realchatlogs
00:15 <armabot> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armalogs.txt
00:23 <wrtlprnft> i guess that file is getting a little big by now x-x
00:28 <madmax|pt> #last --from fcukfcuk --nolimit
00:28 <armabot> madmax|pt: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 734 messages.
00:28 <madmax|pt> that doesnt cover the whole logfile, right?
00:28 <wrtlprnft> madmax|pt: it gets reset every time armabot logs out
00:28 <madmax|pt> ah..
00:28 <wrtlprnft> the #realchatlogs are mine
00:29 <madmax|pt> ok
00:33 <Vanhayes> #dotdotdot
00:33 <armabot> Vanhayes: [17:15:24] <Vanhayes> heh, [17:13:32] <madmax|pt> lol, [17:13:03] <Vanhayes> lol, [17:08:44] <madmax|pt> heh, [17:05:50] <Vanhayes> bah, [17:05:21] <Vanhayes> lol, [17:03:03] <Vanhayes> lol, [17:02:15] * wrtlprnft too, [17:01:43] <cusco> yes, [17:00:46] <cusco> lol, [17:00:44] <Vanhayes> lol, [16:59:03] <Vanhayes> WM?, [16:57:04] <Vanhayes> lol, [16:55:31] <ghableska> O_o, [16:54:07] (1 more message)
00:34 <ghableska> o_O
00:34 <Vanhayes> #more
00:34 <armabot> Vanhayes: <madmax|pt> o_O, [16:31:02] <guru3> lol, [16:29:59] <madmax|pt> lol, [16:29:49] <madmax|pt> lol, [16:29:44] <ghableska> lol, [16:27:20] <madmax|pt> o_O, [16:26:08] <wrtlprnft> err, [16:24:53] <ghableska> o_O, [16:21:58] <cusco> lol, [16:16:36] <madmax|pt> bye, and [16:15:40] <spidey> bbl
00:35 <Vanhayes> #list
00:35 <armabot> Vanhayes: Admin, Alias, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, Dict, Games, Google, Herald, Insult, Later, Math, Misc, News, Owner, Praise, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Time, Unix, User, Utilities, and Web
00:35 <Vanhayes> #list insult
00:35 <armabot> Vanhayes: insult
00:35 <Vanhayes> #help insult
00:35 <armabot> Vanhayes: (insult [<target>]) -- Reply optionally directed at a random string, person, object, etc.
00:35 <Vanhayes> #insult armabot
00:35 <armabot> armabot - You are nothing but a droning heap of surly poop. 
00:35 <Vanhayes> heh
00:35 <Vanhayes> #list misc
00:35 <armabot> Vanhayes: apropos, help, last, list, more, ping, source, tell, and version
00:36 <Vanhayes> #help apropos
00:36 <armabot> Vanhayes: (apropos <string>) -- Searches for <string> in the commands currently offered by the bot, returning a list of the commands containing that string.
00:36 <wrtlprnft> finally armabot said a true thing
00:36 <wrtlprnft> 00:35 <armabot> armabot - You are nothing but a droning heap of surly poop.
00:36 <Vanhayes> lol
00:36 <wrtlprnft> jk
00:37 <Vanhayes> #list channel
00:37 <armabot> Vanhayes: alert, ban add, ban list, ban remove, capability add, capability list, capability remove, capability set, capability setdefault, capability unset, cycle, dehalfop, deop, devoice, disable, enable, halfop, ignore add, ignore list, ignore remove, invite, kban, key, kick, limit, lobotomy add, lobotomy list, lobotomy remove, mode, moderate, nicks, op, unban, unmoderate, and voice
00:37 <Vanhayes> #list channellogger
00:37 <armabot> Vanhayes: That plugin exists, but has no commands.  This probably means that it has some configuration variables that can be changed in order to modify its behavior.  Try "config list supybot.plugins.ChannelLogger" to see what configuration variables it has.
00:37 <Vanhayes> #list channelstats
00:37 <armabot> Vanhayes: channelstats and stats
00:37 <Vanhayes> #stats
00:37 <armabot> Vanhayes: I have 9 registered users with 7 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 1 admin.
00:37 <Vanhayes> #channelstats
00:37 <armabot> Vanhayes: On #armagetron there have been 124510 messages, containing 5088020 characters, 900897 words, 10087 smileys, and 3742 frowns; 4221 of those messages were ACTIONs.  There have been 3345 joins, 479 parts, 2814 quits, 5 kicks, 73 mode changes, and 20 topic changes.
00:38 <Vanhayes> #list games
00:38 <armabot> Vanhayes: coin, dice, eightball, monologue, and roulette
00:38 <Vanhayes> #monologue
00:38 <armabot> Vanhayes: Your current monologue is at least 7 lines long.
00:38 <Vanhayes> #monologue
00:38 <armabot> Vanhayes: Your current monologue is at least 8 lines long.
00:38 <Vanhayes> heh
00:38 <wrtlprnft> #monologue
00:38 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Your current monologue is at least 1 line long.
00:38 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #monologue
00:38 <armabot> [Xpert]DarkStar: Your current monologue is at least 1 line long.
00:38 <Vanhayes> #coin
00:38 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: The command "coin" is available in the Alias and Games plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "coin".
00:38 <Vanhayes> #games coin
00:38 <armabot> Vanhayes: tails
00:39 <Vanhayes> #alias coin
00:39 <armabot> heads
00:39 <Vanhayes> #alias coin
00:39 <armabot> heads
00:39 <[Xpert]DarkStar> lol
00:39 <Vanhayes> heh
00:39 <wrtlprnft> #help alias coin
00:39 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #games coin
00:39 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (alias coin <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo heads".
00:39 <armabot> [Xpert]DarkStar: heads
00:39 <Vanhayes> bah
00:39 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #games coin
00:39 <armabot> [Xpert]DarkStar: heads
00:39 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #games coin
00:39 <armabot> [Xpert]DarkStar: tails
00:39 <ghableska> #games coin
00:39 <armabot> ghableska: heads
00:40 <Vanhayes> heads u give me $20 bucks tails I give you $1000
00:40 <Vanhayes> #alias coin
00:40 <armabot> heads
00:40 <ghableska> #games coin
00:40 <armabot> ghableska: tails
00:40 <ghableska> lol
00:40 <ghableska> :D
00:40 <Vanhayes> lol
00:40 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #games coin
00:40  * ghableska waits for the money ;)
00:40 <armabot> [Xpert]DarkStar: tails
00:40 <Vanhayes> hey it was heads first
00:40 <Vanhayes> #alias coin
00:40 <armabot> heads
00:40 <Vanhayes> #alias coin
00:40 <armabot> heads
00:40 <Vanhayes> lol
00:41 <[Xpert]DarkStar> aMule sucks -.-
00:41 <wrtlprnft> #switchtotails
00:41 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
00:41 <wrtlprnft> #alias coin
00:41 <armabot> tails
00:41 <wrtlprnft> #alias coin
00:41 <armabot> tails
00:41 <wrtlprnft> #alias coin
00:41 <armabot> tails
00:41 <ghableska> lol
00:41 <wrtlprnft> #switchtoheads
00:41 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
00:41 <wrtlprnft> #alias coin
00:41 <armabot> heads
00:41 <wrtlprnft> #alias coin
00:41 <wrtlprnft> #alias coin
00:41 <armabot> heads
00:41 <Luke-Jr> #coin
00:41 <armabot> heads
00:41 <Luke-Jr> #coin
00:41 <Luke-Jr> #coin
00:41 <Vanhayes> lol
00:41 <Vanhayes> #alias coin
00:41 <armabot> heads
00:41 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #quit
00:41 <armabot> [Xpert]DarkStar: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
00:41 <Vanhayes> #dice
00:41 <armabot> Vanhayes: (dice <dice>d<sides>) -- Rolls a die with <sides> number of sides <dice> times. For example, 2d6 will roll 2 six-sided dice; 10d10 will roll 10 ten-sided dice.
00:42 <Vanhayes> #dice 1d6
00:42 <armabot> Vanhayes: 2
00:42 <wrtlprnft> #superdice 99 99
00:42 <armabot> Results: 92 || 64 || 75 || 21 || 21 || 4 || 56 || 19 || 40 || 64 || 48 || 81 || 48 || 2 || 6 || 40 || 90 || 14 || 56 || 64 || 94 || 64 || 87 || 52 || 6 || 71 || 86 || 52 || 74 || 47 || 22 || 67 || 12 || 97 || 87 || 32 || 1 || 43 || 51 || 41 || 7 || 99 || 22 || 55 || 1 || 28 || 95 || 90 || 42 (2 more messages)
00:42 <Vanhayes> ack
00:42 <wrtlprnft> #less
00:42 <wrtlprnft> #less
00:42 <armabot> wrtlprnft: <imagine fancy scroll features here> || 52 || 55 || 36 || 16 || 43 || 87 || 21 || 15 || 74 || 73 || 88 || 22 || 95 || 55 || 33 || 92 || 43 || 65 || 93 || 85 || 16 || 34 || 92 || 15 || 56 || 48 || 15 || 84 || 44 || 6 || 26 || 95 || 61 || 62 || 12 || 5 || 49 || 33 || 19 || 24 || 6 || 7 || 45 || 1 || 62 || 77 || 93 || 5 || 42 |
00:42 <armabot> wrtlprnft: <imagine fancy scroll features here> 86 || Sum: 4793
00:42 <Vanhayes> #roulette
00:42 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
00:42  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
00:42 <Vanhayes> #games roulette
00:42 <armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
00:43 <wrtlprnft> #roullette
00:43 <wrtlprnft> #roulettte
00:43 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?
00:43 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #roullette
00:43 <wrtlprnft> #roulete
00:43 <armabot> *click*
00:43 <wrtlprnft> #roulete
00:43 <wrtlprnft> #roulete
00:43 <wrtlprnft> #roulete
00:43 <wrtlprnft> #roulete
00:43 <armabot> *click*
00:43 <wrtlprnft> #roulettte
00:43 <wrtlprnft> #roulettte
00:43 <Vanhayes> #roulette
00:43 <armabot> *click*
00:43 <wrtlprnft> #roulettte
00:43 <wrtlprnft> #roulettte
00:43 <Vanhayes> #roulette
00:43 <armabot> *click*
00:43 <Vanhayes> #roulette
00:43 <Vanhayes> #roulette
00:43 <armabot> *click*
00:43 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
00:43  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
00:43 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?
00:43 <armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
00:43 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
00:43  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
00:43 <Vanhayes> #roulette
00:43 <Vanhayes> #roulette
00:43 <armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
00:43 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?
00:43 <Vanhayes> #roulette
00:43 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?
00:43 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?
00:43 <armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
00:43 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
00:43  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
00:43 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
00:43  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
00:43 <Vanhayes> lol
00:43 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #night
00:43 <armabot> Good night [Xpert]DarkStar!
00:43 <wrtlprnft> poor armabot
00:43 <Vanhayes> night
00:43 <wrtlprnft> #night
00:43 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
00:43 <[Xpert]DarkStar> night everyone
00:43 <wrtlprnft> yeah, me too
00:43 <[Xpert]DarkStar> Wed Jul  5 00:44:15 CEST 2006
00:44 <Vanhayes> night [Xpert]DarkStar and wrtlprnft
00:44 <[Xpert]DarkStar> nigh Vanhayes and wrtlprnft 
00:44 <ghableska> night
00:44 <[Xpert]DarkStar> +t
00:44 <[Xpert]DarkStar> night guru3 
00:44 <Vanhayes> #list alias
00:44 <armabot> Vanhayes: #, 42, add, admin, all, answer, anvil, armabot, armabot,, b, barf, bug, canada, canada2, ch, chatlog, clash, coin, digg, dotdotdot, eightballs, eliza, f, fe, fluffy, fortune, g, gcalc, goodbye, hello, help, hose, ignoreme, insight, it's, joke, knock, less, lipsum, lock, log, log, lotto, lucifer, luciferarma, lukejr, m, man, mashuffle, message, mfaq, missed, morning, night, pang, parrot, (1 more message)
00:44 <ghableska> wow
00:44 <Vanhayes> #help all
00:44 <armabot> Vanhayes: (all <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "channel nicks $channel".
00:44 <[Xpert]DarkStar> try #ch ;)
00:44 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #ch
00:44 <armabot>  + 
00:44 <Vanhayes> #canada
00:44 <armabot>  4 
00:44 <[Xpert]DarkStar> well
00:45 <[Xpert]DarkStar> now i'm really off
00:45 <[Xpert]DarkStar> cyall
00:45 <Vanhayes> cya
00:45 <Vanhayes> #all
00:45 <armabot> Vanhayes: [Xpert]DarkStar, armabot, cusco, deja_vu, free-kill, ghableska, guru3, Lucifer_arma, Luke-Jr, madmax|pt, mkzelda, Niii, spidey, SuPeRTaRD-bbl, Vanhayes, wejp, and wrtlprnft
00:45 <Vanhayes> er
00:45  * Vanhayes plays with armabot in private
00:46 <Niii> yay stop wake up me :>
00:46 <Vanhayes> lol sry
00:46 <Niii> gn all :)
00:47 -!- Niii [n=Niii@lnr56-1-82-246-48-71.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
00:48 <Luke-Jr> Vanhayes: you playin w/ armabot's privates?!?!
00:48 <ghableska> o_O
00:48 <Vanhayes> lol
00:49 <Luke-Jr> I should get my bot here
00:49 <Vanhayes> Im playing with armabot in private
00:49 <Vanhayes> er that doesnt sound better
00:49 <Luke-Jr> lol
00:49 <ghableska> you are privately playing with armabot?
00:49 <Vanhayes> lol
00:49  * Vanhayes notes that armabot is a girl bot so it is ok
00:49 <Luke-Jr> no
00:49 <Vanhayes> no?
00:50 <Luke-Jr> unless you're married
00:50 <Vanhayes> lol
00:50 <Luke-Jr> to a bot
00:50 <Luke-Jr> o.O
00:50 <Luke-Jr> if ya ain't married, the clothes gotta stay on
00:51  * ghableska covers eyes
00:52 <Vanhayes> heh clothes dont nessessaryly stop anything
00:52 <ghableska> ...
00:53  * Vanhayes pretends nothing happened
00:56 <[Xpert]DarkStar> *yawn*
00:56 <[Xpert]DarkStar> back for a second
00:56 <[Xpert]DarkStar> and btw
00:56 <[Xpert]DarkStar> armabot is pregnant
00:56 <Luke-Jr> ...
00:57 <Luke-Jr> crap
00:57 <Luke-Jr> don't tell Lucifer_arma 
00:57 <[Xpert]DarkStar> Vanhayes: congrats
00:57 <ghableska> lol
00:57 <ghableska> what are you going to name it?
00:57 <ghableska> :P
00:57 <Vanhayes> vanbot
00:57 <ghableska> creative...
00:57 <Luke-Jr> lol
00:57 <Vanhayes> lol
00:58 <Lucifer_arma> luckily it's highly unlikely Vanhayes can produce the right kind of seed to get armabot pregnant
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00:59 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer_arma: oh, you'd be surprised
00:59  * vanbot cries
00:59 <Luke-Jr> crap, now we have a baby in the channel
00:59 <[Xpert]DarkStar> mm yeah
01:00  * vanbot grows up
01:00 <Vanhayes> ....
01:00 -!- vanbot [n=pso@84-74-43-82.dclient.hispeed.ch] has left #armagetron [""not funny""]
01:00 <[Xpert]DarkStar> right
01:02 <ghableska> yup
01:02 <Luke-Jr> [Xpert]DarkStar: hi vanbot
01:03 <[Xpert]DarkStar> i'm off to bed for real now
01:03 <madmax|pt> is _TEST_ here!?
01:03 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #night
01:03 <armabot> Good night [Xpert]DarkStar!
01:03 <ghableska> night
01:03 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #all
01:03 <madmax|pt> lol
01:03 <armabot> [Xpert]DarkStar: [Xpert]DarkStar, armabot, cusco, deja_vu, free-kill, ghableska, guru3, Lucifer_arma, Luke-Jr, madmax|pt, mkzelda, spidey, SuPeRTaRD-bbl, Vanhayes, wejp, and wrtlprnft
01:03 <Luke-Jr> #all
01:04 <Luke-Jr> anyone want to hire me to write some code?
01:04 <Luke-Jr> =po
01:04 <Luke-Jr> =p*
01:04 <Vanhayes> madmax|pt why do you ask?
01:05 <madmax|pt> i wonder who he is
01:05 <Vanhayes> I think he is a sumo bot
01:05 <Vanhayes> he never talks
01:07 <madmax|pt> he once talked
01:07 <madmax|pt> i SAW
01:07 <madmax|pt> lol
01:07 <madmax|pt> he said "2 hours"
01:07 <madmax|pt> when asked, "youve been here long no?"
01:07 <ghableska> o_O
01:08 <madmax|pt> well, my fav kill in sumo is him
01:08 <madmax|pt> its sooooo funny to pwn 30's pingers
01:08 <ghableska> lol
01:08 <madmax|pt> and know he always tries to "steal" our zones, when you face him there its sooo cool
01:08 <madmax|pt> lol
01:08 <madmax|pt> and *now
01:40 <Lucifer_arma> ping of 30 on sumo?  he's probably z-man
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01:54 <cusco> #hello
01:54 <armabot> Hello cusco :)
01:58 <Vanhayes> bbl
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02:26 <madmax|pt> #last
02:26 <armabot> madmax|pt: [18:59:02] <Vanhayes> bbl
02:27 <Vanhayes> lol, benn talking alot while I was gone I see
02:27 <madmax|pt> what timezone is this thing on?
02:31 <Vanhayes> hmm it is 2 hours slow so maybe North american central?
02:32 <Vanhayes> wait it is Lucifer_arma's bot so it is on Texas time
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03:02 <Lucifer_arma> CDT
03:29 <Vanhayes> what does CDT stand for?
03:29 <Vanhayes> #wtf CDT
03:29 <armabot> Vanhayes: CDT: nothing appropriate
03:31 <Vanhayes> #dict CDT
03:31 <armabot> Vanhayes: vera: CDT Cell Delay Tolerance (ATN); vera: CDT Central Daylight Time [-0500] (TZ, CST, USA)
03:31 <Vanhayes> heh
03:31 <madmax|pt> dead people dont talk
03:31  * Vanhayes talks while dead
03:36  * Lucifer_arma notes tht Texas is in 2 timezones
03:38 <Vanhayes> #dict kestufou
03:38 <armabot> Vanhayes: No definition for "kestufou" could be found.
03:38 <Vanhayes> #list dict
03:38 <armabot> Vanhayes: dict, dictionaries, and random
03:38 <Vanhayes> #help dict
03:38 <armabot> Vanhayes: (dict [<dictionary>] <word>) -- Looks up the definition of <word> on dict.org's dictd server.
03:38 <Vanhayes> #dictionaries
03:38 <armabot> Vanhayes: --exit--, afr-deu, afr-eng, all, ara-eng, bouvier, cro-eng, cze-eng, dan-eng, deu-eng, deu-fra, deu-ita, deu-nld, deu-por, devils, easton, elements, eng-afr, eng-ara, eng-cro, eng-cze, eng-deu, eng-fra, eng-hin, eng-hun, eng-iri, eng-ita, eng-lat, eng-nld, eng-por, eng-rom, eng-rus, eng-spa, eng-swa, eng-swe, eng-tur, eng-wel, english, foldoc, fra-deu, fra-eng, fra-nld, gaz-county, gaz- (1 more message)
03:39 <Vanhayes> #dict eng-fra kestufou
03:39 <armabot> Vanhayes: No definition for "kestufou" could be found in eng-fra
03:39 <Vanhayes> hmm
03:39 <Vanhayes> #google kestufou
03:39 <armabot> Vanhayes: Search took 0.43 seconds: French Texting - Les Textos fran?ais - French abbreviations ...: <http://french.about.com/library/writing/bl-texting.htm>; www.myspace.com/sectiontam: <http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=2677857>; www.myspace.com/mastaduge: <http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=58985273>; (2 more messages)
04:02 <madmax|pt> good night guys
04:03 <Vanhayes> night madmax|pt
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04:06 <Vanhayes> Hi Vanhayes_
04:06 <Vanhayes_> hey Vanhayes
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04:12 <Luke-Jr> Why did 0.3.0 have different Win32 and *nix source releases?
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05:06 <Vanhayes> hey ghableska
05:10 <ghableska> hi Vanhayes
05:37 <spidey> O_o
05:37 <spidey> man
05:37 <spidey> that was fun
05:38 <ghableska> what was?
05:41 <Luke-Jr> fireworks, I presume
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05:48 <Vanhayes> #list
05:48 <armabot> Vanhayes: Admin, Alias, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, Dict, Games, Google, Herald, Insult, Later, Math, Misc, News, Owner, Praise, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Time, Unix, User, Utilities, and Web
05:49 <Vanhayes> #more
05:49 <armabot> Vanhayes: (;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[0.50]TM[2700]OT[5x30 ...: <http://kgs.kiseido.com/games/2005/5/23/jb-Wraith.sgf>; www.myspace.com/skaperlipoupete: <http://www.myspace.com/skaperlipoupete>; www.myspace.com/razmigootioun: <http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=2788412&Mytoken=20050203161946>; www.myspace.com/chowee2: (1 more message)
05:49 <Vanhayes> er
05:49 <ghableska> o_O
05:49 <Vanhayes> lol
05:49 <ghableska> riiiight
05:50 <Vanhayes> #less
05:50 <armabot> Vanhayes: <imagine fancy scroll features here> <http://collect.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=29073996>
05:51 <spidey> Luke-Jr, yes fireworks and fine girls in bathen' suits O_o
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05:52  * Vanhayes wixhes we had a good river instead of a bad swamp here
05:52 <Vanhayes> wishes*
05:52 <spidey> LOL
05:52 <spidey> man,it was awesome
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05:52 <spidey> kinda....
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05:52 <spidey> what part i remember
05:52 <Vanhayes> drunk?
05:52  * spidey got fried in the middle of the park while playing basketball
05:52 <Vanhayes> thats always fun
05:53 <spidey> i don't drink that much
05:53 <spidey> i mean
05:53 <spidey> there's still a 6pack in the fridge from my birthday last year
05:53 <Vanhayes> ididnt used to but since I quit weed i do it alot more often
05:53 <spidey> so that tells ya how much i drink :p
05:55 <Vanhayes> eww how can u just let it sit there?
05:56 <spidey> cuase i don't drink that much
05:56 <spidey> no
05:56 <Vanhayes> wait how long was it since your birthday?
05:56 <spidey> nov.30th
05:56 <Vanhayes> ...
05:56 <spidey> november 30th 2005
05:57 <Vanhayes> well i knew it wasnt 2006 heh
05:57 <spidey> lol
06:01 <ghableska> :P
06:03 <spidey> man
06:03 <spidey> i got the fuckin mucnhies
06:03 <spidey> bad
06:03 <spidey> brb
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06:09 <Luke-Jr> spidey: immodestly dressed females are not fine
06:09 <Vanhayes> ... I disagree
06:10 <Luke-Jr> well then you're wrong
06:10 <Vanhayes> u mean, You think I am wrong
06:10 <Luke-Jr> my daughter had the expression of "wtf is going on?"
06:10 <Luke-Jr> I mean, you are wrong. Simple.
06:10 <Vanhayes> ?
06:10 <Luke-Jr> when she saw fireworks
06:10 <Vanhayes> o
06:11 <Vanhayes> well i guess a father of a girl might see things differently than a 17 year old 
06:11 <spidey> mmm
06:11 <spidey> indeed
06:11 <spidey> but
06:11 <spidey> girls in swim suits....are fine
06:11 <spidey> swell, it actually depends
06:11 <spidey> but the ones i saw where :>
06:12 <Vanhayes> only if the girl is
06:12 <spidey> to bad i was fried and to lazy to move
06:12 <spidey> so i just watched :/
06:12 <Luke-Jr> females dressing immodestly in public should be thrown in jail or something
06:12 <spidey> dude
06:12 <spidey> it's a river
06:12 <Vanhayes> what about males?
06:12 <spidey> they swim
06:12 <spidey> SO
06:12 <Luke-Jr> Vanhayes: that's less common, but the same
06:12 <spidey> they where swim suits
06:12 <spidey> it's simple 
06:12 <Luke-Jr> spidey: I don't imagine they wore modest swimwear
06:13 <spidey> um
06:13 <Luke-Jr> my wife can't even find any for herself
06:13 <Vanhayes> what do u consider modest?
06:13 <spidey> anything that's fully clothed
06:13 <Luke-Jr> fully clothed, and fitting the sex of the person
06:14 <spidey> that's not swim wear
06:14 <spidey> that's "HEY I'M GOING TO THE STORE"
06:14 <Luke-Jr> modest swim wear does (or used to anyhow) exist
06:14 <Vanhayes> back in the 50s
06:14 <spidey> yea
06:14 <spidey> i was gonna say that
06:14 <spidey> lol
06:14 <Luke-Jr> maybe
06:14 <Luke-Jr> but modesty doesn't change
06:15 <Vanhayes> I consider anything but a thong modest for swim wear
06:15 <spidey> ahah
06:15 <Luke-Jr> well you have a bad idea of what is modest then
06:15 <Vanhayes> not really
06:15 <spidey> Luke-Jr, you better not go swimming then
06:15 <Vanhayes> just more open minded and free
06:15 <spidey> you'll throw a fit :)
06:16 <Luke-Jr> spidey: maybe
06:16 <Luke-Jr> Vanhayes: open minded does not mean redefining facts
06:16 <spidey> facts are
06:16 <Luke-Jr> oh, wow... Google actually finds modest swimwear for sale
06:16 <spidey> people change
06:16 <Luke-Jr> http://www.wholesomewear.com/
06:16 <spidey> generations change :)
06:16 <Luke-Jr> facts don't
06:16 <Luke-Jr> facts remain the same
06:16 <Luke-Jr> including the facts of what is modest and what isn't
06:16 <Vanhayes> well then that isnt a fact then
06:16 <spidey> modest my ass
06:17 <spidey> why not wear jeans and a shirt?
06:17 <spidey> when i go swimming i don't wear a shirt and i wear shorts
06:17 <spidey> but that water was fuckin' cold, so i didn't swim
06:17 <spidey> i just watched =P~
06:18 <Luke-Jr> jeans are not feminine, so would be immodest for a female
06:18 <Luke-Jr> for any situation
06:18 <Vanhayes> that sounds sest
06:18 <Vanhayes> sexist
06:18 <spidey> dude,noone wears something that looks like a outfit to swim in
06:18 <spidey> when i go swimming i don't want a ton of clothes holding me back
06:18 <Luke-Jr> Vanhayes: sexist is not wrong
06:18 <Vanhayes> I say wear whatever you feel like
06:18 <Vanhayes> um is racism wrong?
06:19 <Luke-Jr> Vanhayes: depending on the definition of sexist used
06:19 <Luke-Jr> racism is, of course
06:19 <Luke-Jr> but that is an entirely different matter
06:19 <spidey> um
06:19 <spidey> they sell jeans for women...
06:19 <Vanhayes> discreminating someone based on sex is the same as discreminating someone based on race
06:19 <Luke-Jr> they shouldn't
06:19  * spidey thinks Luke-Jr is from the old days when men owned women
06:19 <Luke-Jr> Vanhayes: not at all
06:19 <Luke-Jr> males are not females
06:20 <Luke-Jr> females are not males
06:20 <Luke-Jr> there is a difference
06:20 <Vanhayes> um I am not black a black man  not white
06:20 <Vanhayes> difference there
06:20 <Luke-Jr> no difference in person based on skin colour
06:20 <spidey> simpley put,this isn't the day of cowboys anymore :)
06:21 <Vanhayes> anyway sexism is discreminatio, That is fact
06:21 <spidey> agreed
06:21  * spidey throws on a womens bathen suit
06:21 <spidey> O_o
06:22  * Vanhayes scrolls up to see hoe this disscusion got started
06:23 <spidey> because i said at the river there was fine girls in bathen suits :)
06:23 <Luke-Jr> discrimination is not bad
06:23 <spidey> it is too....
06:23 <Luke-Jr> discrimination on irrelevant things is bad
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> modesty is generally defined by the society in which it is being applied and exists as an aggregation of the population's tastes
06:23 <Luke-Jr> discriminating between potential employees based on their qualifications, for example, is necessary
06:24 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer_arma: modesty is defined by God when he created male and female
06:24 <spidey> well
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> before they ate fromt the tree of knowledge?
06:24 <Vanhayes> wernt they naked?
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> what about those of us who think god is a poser?
06:24 <spidey> heh van just pwned luke :p
06:25 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer_arma: incorrect info is irrelevant regardless of who thinks it is
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> right, therefore all this god stuff is irrelevant, regardless of what you think about it :)
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> #dict modesty
06:25 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: wn: modesty n 1: freedom from vanity or conceit [ant: {immodesty}] 2: formality and propriety of manner [syn: {reserve}]; gcide: Modesty \Mod"es*ty\, n. [L. modestia: cf. F. modestie. See {Modest}.] 1. The quality or state of being modest; that lowly temper which accompanies a moderate estimate of one's own worth and importance; absence of (6 more messages)
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> #more
06:25 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: self-assertion, arrogance, and presumption; humility respecting one's own merit. [1913 Webster] 2. Natural delicacy or shame regarding personal charms and the sexual relation; purity of thought and manners; due regard for propriety in speech or action. [1913 Webster] Her blush is guiltiness, not modesty. --Shak. [1913 Webster] {Modesty piece}, a narrow piece of lace worn by women over (5 more messages)
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> #more
06:26 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: the bosom. [Obs.] --Addison. [1913 Webster] Syn: Bashfulness; humility; diffidence; shyness. See {Bashfulness}, and {Humility}. [1913 Webster]; moby-thes: 128 Moby Thesaurus words for "modesty": aloofness, altruism, backwardness, bashfulness, blankness, boggle, boggling, chilliness, coldness, commitment, compunction, consecration, constraint, coolness, decency, decorousness, (4 more messages)
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> #more
06:26 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: decorum, dedication, delicacy, demur, demurral, detachment, devotion, diffidence, discreetness, discretion, disinterest, disinterestedness, distance, dullness, elegance, expressionlessness, fairishness, falter, faltering, frigidity, frostiness, guardedness, hesitance, hesitancy, hesitation, homeliness, humbleness, humility, iciness, impassiveness, impassivity, impersonality, (3 more messages)
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> #more
06:26 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: inaccessibility, indifference, ingloriousness, innocuousness, introversion, lackluster, lowlihood, lowliness, meanness, mediocreness, mediocrity, meekness, middlingness, moderateness, modestness, objection, passableness, pause, plainness, poorness, propriety, protest, pudency, pudicity, qualm, qualm of conscience, qualmishness, recoil, remoteness, repression, reserve, reservedness, (2 more messages)
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> #more
06:26 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: respectability, restraint, reticence, reticency, retirement, sacrifice, scruple, scrupulosity, scrupulousness, seemliness, self-abasement, self-abnegation, self-denial, self-devotion, self-effacement, self-forgetfulness, self-immolation, self-neglect, self-neglectfulness, self-renouncement, self-sacrifice, self-subjection, selflessness, shame, shrinking, shyness, simpleness, (1 more message)
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> #more
06:26 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: smallness, standoffishness, stickling, subduedness, submissiveness, suppression, teachableness, tediousness, tolerableness, unacquisitiveness, unaffability, unapproachability, uncongeniality, undemonstrativeness, unexpansiveness, unimportance, unpossessiveness, unpretentiousness, unselfishness, withdrawal, withdrawnness
06:26 <spidey> O_o
06:26 <Luke-Jr> spidey: not quite
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> I didn't see any "Defined by god" in there, I guess God isn't in armabot's database
06:26 <spidey> actually
06:27 <spidey> he is
06:27 <spidey> watch
06:27 <Vanhayes> #dict god
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> or rather, God's databes is uknown to Armabot the ALmighty
06:27 <armabot> Vanhayes: gcide, easton, wn, bouvier, vera, and moby-thes responded: vera: GOD Global OutDial; gcide: God \God\, a. & n. Good. [Obs.] --Chaucer. [1913 Webster]; vera: GOD Grundsaetze ordnungsmaessiger Datenverarbeitung, "GoD"; gcide: God \God\, v. t. To treat as a god; to idolize. [Obs.] --Shak. [1913 Webster]; wn: God n 1: the supernatural being conceived as the perfect and (22 more messages)
06:27 <Luke-Jr> modesty, while rooted in pure fact, does have a degree of variety within culture
06:27 <spidey> #eightball is van gay?
06:27 <armabot> spidey: _I_ don't know.
06:27 <spidey> #eightball is van gay?
06:27 <armabot> spidey: _I_ don't know.
06:27 <spidey> #eightball is van gay?
06:27 <armabot> spidey: The answer is def-- oooh! shiny thing!
06:27 <spidey> #eightball is god real?
06:27 <armabot> spidey: It shall be.
06:27 <spidey> O_o
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> modesty is defined by the society that has it, plain and simple.  You have to separate the concept of modesty from the implementation
06:28 <spidey> Luke-Jr, tell that to the tribes that don't wear clothes at all
06:28  * Lucifer_arma notes that in Texas people don't wear a lot of clothes :)
06:28 <spidey> i don't blame you
06:28 <spidey> it's fuckin hot down there
06:28 <Luke-Jr> spidey: in a society with the proper mindset, nudity can be modest
06:28 <Vanhayes> in my culture it is ok to dress how you want but unacceptable to discreminate someone because of their ra, sex, religon, country etc
06:28 <Vanhayes> is that wrong?
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> absolutely
06:28 <Luke-Jr> Vanhayes: yes
06:28 <Vanhayes> i see
06:28 <Luke-Jr> parts anyway
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live!"
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> "Whosever lieth with The Beast shall be put to death!"
06:29 <Luke-Jr> there is obviously a need to discriminate based on sex and religion
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, catholics that don't get laid shouldn't be allowed to have jobs
06:29 <Luke-Jr> females shouldn't be dressing as males, nor doing work for males
06:29 <Luke-Jr> and vice-versa
06:29 <spidey> "thou shalt not worship any god besides the lord"
06:29 <spidey> so everyone else is going to hell? 
06:29 <Luke-Jr> and there is an obvious need to differentiate between truth and false
06:29 <Vanhayes> ISO i couldnt become, say a nurse?
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> "Thou shalt not look at thy neighbor's wife and say "OMG SHE'S FUCKING HOT!""
06:30 <spidey> LMAO
06:30 <spidey> we're all going to hell then
06:30 <spidey> O_o
06:30  * Luke-Jr doesn't plan to.
06:30 <Vanhayes> nah, my neighbors are all old
06:30 <Luke-Jr> lol
06:30  * Lucifer_arma plans on going to hell so he can nuke heaven
06:30 <spidey> you can't say what people wear isn't right by god
06:30  * Vanhayes plans on....
06:31 <spidey> seeing as van stated......adam and eve didn't have clothes at all :)
06:31 <Luke-Jr> spidey: sure you can; He's laid out guidelines to follow
06:31 <spidey> oh he has?
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> right, you can get to heaven, in exchange for your soul
06:31 <spidey> did you get this from the new testimate ?
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> a small price to pay
06:31 <Luke-Jr> spidey: nudity before the fall did not have a seductive reaction
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> and don't let that devil guy get it!
06:31 <Vanhayes> what if I sagree with those guidlines, which were set 2000 years ago?
06:31 <Vanhayes> disagree*
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> Vanhayes: you're going to hell
06:31 <spidey> Vanhayes, also changed :)
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> why is that a problem?
06:31 <Luke-Jr> Vanhayes: disagreeing with the truth is foolish
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> Bill Gates say Microsoft is great!  God says Heaven Rules!
06:32 <Vanhayes> I dont consider it truth
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> WHO DO YOU BELIEVE?
06:32 <spidey> truth ?
06:32 <spidey> how do you KNOW that these guidlines are true
06:32 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer_arma: bad example-- anyone would choose Heaven =p
06:32 <spidey> seeing as it WAS thousands of years ago
06:32 <spidey> and written by man
06:32 <spidey> how do you know for sure?
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> Luke-Jr: it makes my point, and *I* would NEVER choose heaven
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> I'll DIE FIRST!
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> ;)
06:32 <Vanhayes> years after it allegedly happened
06:32 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer_arma: your loss
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> my gain, your loss.  I couldn't nuke heaven while I was in it, could I?
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> besides, if you're there, and other people like you, why would I *want* to be there?
06:33 <spidey> LOL
06:33 <Vanhayes> I think they frown on that
06:33 <Luke-Jr> you can't nuke a non-physical location
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> so I can be discriminated against for <insert abritrary reason here>?
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> you can't *go* to a non-physical location
06:33 <spidey> Luke-Jr, throw a gigantic energy ball at it
06:33  * Lucifer_arma pisses on heaven
06:34 <Luke-Jr> spidey: physical energy?
06:34 <spidey> abstract
06:34 <spidey> :p
06:34 <Vanhayes> so once your in heaven, then what?
06:34 <Luke-Jr> spidey: what is abstract energy?
06:34 <Vanhayes> you just stay there?
06:34 <Luke-Jr> Vanhayes: then I'm God
06:34 <Luke-Jr> =p
06:34 <spidey> Luke-Jr, just bought a ticket to hell :)
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
06:34 <Vanhayes> lol
06:35 <Luke-Jr> spidey: how else could I torment Lucifer_arma ?
06:35 <spidey> lol
06:35  * spidey would rather walk the earth as a ghost
06:35  * Lucifer_arma doesn't think Luke-Jr will make it past the "no snobby christians allowed" sign
06:35 <Vanhayes> well isnt being  hell suposed to be torment enough?
06:35 <spidey> Vanhayes, "Lucifer"_arma 
06:35 <Luke-Jr> Vanhayes: yes, but we left the realm of seriousness a minute or two ago
06:35 <spidey> he runs it O_o
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> that's what God tells you, but why you should believe a genocidal lunatic who never keeps his word is quite beyond me
06:35 <Vanhayes> lol
06:36  * spidey thinks when you die,you die there's no more
06:36 <spidey> O_o
06:36  * Lucifer_arma intends to participate in the heat death of the universe
06:36  * Vanhayes believes beleive whatever you want just dont force it on others
06:36  * Luke-Jr believes only the facts
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> you can't make me believe that!
06:37 <spidey> it's not facts
06:37  * Vanhayes wonders where Luke-Jr got his facts
06:37 <spidey> if so
06:37 <spidey> can you prove it?
06:37 <spidey> and so
06:37 <spidey> how
06:37  * Lucifer_arma believes the people that wrote the bible did 'shrooms
06:37 <spidey> don't say they bible
06:37 <spidey> it was written by man :)
06:37 <Luke-Jr> spidey: is it possible? yes; practical? no
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> at least Joseph Smith got witnesses
06:37 <Vanhayes> I hear opium was big back then
06:37 <Luke-Jr> caffeine should be illegal
06:37 <spidey> hold on
06:37 <Vanhayes> damn mormans
06:37 <spidey> let me post something
06:38 <spidey> Did God mess up?
06:38 <spidey>  
06:38 <spidey> This subject has babbled me since the day I was able to think on my on, when I learned the difference from right and wrong. Why is it said that God, our creator, the maker and creator of everything and everyone, create such a horrible and disgusting race. Have you personally just taken the time out of your normal day and just watched someone else. I?ll be the first to say people are mean and cruel to each other. When I say pe
06:38 <spidey> ople I mean everyone, I know someone is going to say no I am not mean to the next person, well I say you?re a liar, because there is someone you hate, dislike, or want to make fun of.
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> I already saw that...
06:38 <Vanhayes> that is an example of forcing youbelief on somone right there
06:38 <spidey> luke hasn't
06:38 <spidey> now he has :)
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> well, you know, if you drink 250 cups of coffee, you'll probably have a heart attack and die
06:38  * spidey doesn't drink coffe
06:39 <Luke-Jr> spidey: soda pop, then
06:39  * Vanhayes works at Tim hortens so...
06:39 <Luke-Jr> and even a little bit does damage
06:39  * Lucifer_arma thinks "thinking things should be illegal" should be illegal
06:39  * spidey doesn't drink soda that often
06:39 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer_arma: so legalize murder
06:39 <spidey> i drink hella water
06:39  * Luke-Jr drinks a liter of soda pop in 1-2 days
06:39  * Lucifer_arma notes that "he needed killing" is a valid defense in Texas
06:39  * Luke-Jr is a pop addict :(
06:40 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer_arma: good luck winning on it
06:40  * spidey used to drink 2 liters of coke in 1 day
06:40  * Vanhayes drinks coffee juice water and liquor
06:40 <spidey> then i started drinking water
06:40 <spidey> cause it got hot
06:40  * Lucifer_arma loves watersports
06:40  * Luke-Jr thinks water is disgusting
06:40  * Vanhayes thinks pop is revolting
06:40 <Luke-Jr> except for a select few water fountains
06:40 <spidey> argh
06:40 <Luke-Jr> Vanhayes: yes, it should be illegal
06:40 <spidey> firefox froze
06:40  * Lucifer_arma gets heartburn from soda
06:41 <Luke-Jr> just like the other addictive harmful-only drugs
06:41 <spidey> Luke-Jr, so...gas should be illegal?
06:41 <spidey> paint...
06:41  * Lucifer_arma notes that Jesus is an addictive harmful-only hallucination
06:41  * Vanhayes wonders why americans call it soda a canadians call it Pop
06:41 <spidey> everyday household items
06:41 <spidey> they should all just be banned eh?
06:41 <Vanhayes> I said pop not pot
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> Vanhayes: because it's made out of soda water?
06:41 <Luke-Jr> Vanhayes: depends on the time zone in the US, hence why I use 'soda pop' online
06:41 <Vanhayes> i se
06:41 <Vanhayes> see*
06:42 <Luke-Jr> Central, it's pop
06:42 <Luke-Jr> Eastern, it's soda
06:42 <Luke-Jr> no clue on the other 2 zones
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> Texas isn't eastern, and it's soda here
06:42 <Luke-Jr> oh
06:42 <Luke-Jr> well Texas isn't the US
06:42 <Vanhayes> north is pop
06:42 <Luke-Jr> it should be a seperate country
06:42  * Lucifer_arma notes the difference is actually north/south
06:42 <Luke-Jr> is it?
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> yankees call it pop, real people call it soda, that's all there is to it
06:42 <Luke-Jr> Vanhayes: North isn't pop
06:42 <spidey> um
06:42 <Luke-Jr> Connecticut is soda
06:42 <spidey> i'm not a yankee
06:43  * Lucifer_arma might have it backwards
06:43 <Luke-Jr> Missouri and Kansas is pop
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> actually, people around here call it coke
06:43 <Vanhayes> well i live in canada which is pretty north and have never heard it called soda so..
06:43 <Luke-Jr> wtf?
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> black people call it soda water, to differentiate it from cocaine
06:43  * spidey normally says "DR pepper"
06:43 <spidey> seeing as it's the only thing i drink besides water
06:43 <Luke-Jr> Vanhayes: I lived in Connecticut most my life and never heard 'pop' until I moved to Kansas
06:43  * Lucifer_arma drinks iced tea
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> really?  The only yankees I've ever known always called it pop
06:44  * Luke-Jr drinks Pepsi, Dr. Pepper, and Cherry Coke/Pepsi
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> my Aunt whatsherface
06:44 <Vanhayes> i dont really know where states are, besides a few
06:44 <Luke-Jr> Vanhayes: Connecticut is near New York
06:44 <Luke-Jr> Vanhayes: Kansas is in the middle of everything
06:44 <spidey> yankee!
06:45 <Vanhayes> well I have never heard it called soda anywhere in canada that i have been
06:45 <Luke-Jr> maybe that will change when Bush decides Canada should merge with the US
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.popvssoda.com/
06:45 <Vanhayes> well that is the time I go to war
06:45 <Luke-Jr> Vanhayes: against your own government?
06:46 <Vanhayes> if my goverment ever decided to do that yes
06:46 <Vanhayes> y would be wrong
06:46 <spidey> treasen
06:46 <Vanhayes> they*
06:46 <spidey> you'll get fried
06:46 <Vanhayes> revolution
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> it's only revolution if you win :)
06:46 <Vanhayes> heh
06:46 <Luke-Jr> heh
06:46 <Vanhayes> was gonna say that
06:46 <Luke-Jr> nah, Bush'll get his way in the end
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> no he won't, he's only got 2 years to sell it
06:47 <Vanhayes> except "it is only treason if you lose"
06:47 <Luke-Jr> and US+Mexico+Canada will become the North American Union
06:47 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer_arma: so someone else will sell it if he fails
06:47 <spidey> so we can pwn Luke-Jr country?
06:47 <Vanhayes> well there is talk of atlantica
06:47 <Luke-Jr> the republicans and democrats are in it together
06:47 <Vanhayes> #google Atlantica
06:47 <armabot> Vanhayes: Search took 0.28 seconds: Atlantica -- Long Island weddings on the ocean in the Hamptons ...: <http://www.tierramar.com/>; Atlantica: <http://sg-atlantis.org/>; Atlantic Institute for Market Studies: <http://www.atlantica.org/>; Atlantica Hotels: <http://www.atlanticahotels.com/>; Atlantica Restaurant: <http://www.atlanticarestaurant.com/>; Atlantica Group: (1 more message)
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> nah, the US is going to collapse before a North American Union can join together
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> Luke-Jr: do you get buzzed by black helicopters from time to time?
06:48 <spidey> lol
06:48 <Vanhayes> china will get into it with the US and chances are China will win
06:48  * Lucifer_arma goes to reheat a rib
06:48 <spidey> china O_o
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> we're all going to get nuked by North Korea, so quit worrying you guys
06:48 <spidey> no
06:48 <spidey> the russians
06:48 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer_arma: buzzed?
06:48 <Luke-Jr> Vanhayes: China has already threatened
06:49 <Vanhayes> well thats the first step
06:49 <Luke-Jr> in particular, they said
06:49 <Luke-Jr> *when* they attack Taiwan, if the US helps 'em, they nuke some big city
06:49 <Luke-Jr> if the US helps Taiwan, that is
06:49 <Luke-Jr> which technically, the US would need to based on treaties
06:50 <spidey> um
06:50 <spidey> i don't think the united nations would allow it
06:50 <spidey> O_o
06:50 <Luke-Jr> ...
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> the US hasn't recognized the government of Taiwan, therefore has no treaties with it
06:50 <Luke-Jr> the UN is falling apart
06:50 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer_arma: sure it has
06:51 <Vanhayes> the UN was never whol, for it to fall apart
06:51 <Vanhayes> whole*
06:51 <Luke-Jr> Vanhayes: it's being obsoleted by the FoE
06:53 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer_arma: actually, you might be right-- pretty sure they did at one point tho
06:54 <Lucifer_arma> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan_Relations_Act
06:56 <Luke-Jr> anyway
06:56 <Luke-Jr> verdict is we should get out of Iraq and send them Bush to convict as a war criminal
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08:44 <Vanhayes> #night
08:44 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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09:06 <wrtlprnft> #modning
09:07 <wrtlprnft> #morning
09:07 <armabot> Good Morning wrtlprnft Random Fortune:  How many seconds are there in a year? If I tell you there are || 3.155 x 10^7, you won't even try to remember it. On the other hand, || who could forget that, to within half a percent, pi seconds is a || nanocentury. || -- Tom Duff, Bell Labs
09:36 <wejp> wejp bla
09:46 <wrtlprnft> ?
09:46 <wrtlprnft> wrtlprnft bla
09:47 <Lucifer_arma> man, that's completely useless information
09:47 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma bla?
09:47 <Lucifer_arma> On the other hand, || who could forget that, to within half a percent, pi seconds is a || nanocentury. ||
09:47 <Lucifer_arma> shows you how often I"m looking at my irc window :)
09:48 <Lucifer_arma> but I did just make a neato QListViewItem subclass where the items find their own parents in the QListView :)
09:48 <wrtlprnft> well, it's true
09:49 <wrtlprnft> I'd never remember 3.155e7 s
09:49 <wrtlprnft> but that pi seconds thing i might remember
09:50 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, then you just have to remember 10^7, and you can give a "smart" answer whenever people ask
09:50  * wrtlprnft doesn't know anything about qt
09:50 <Lucifer_arma> which is surprisingly often, all things considered
09:50  * Lucifer_arma always feels proud when he writes a recursive function, and he just wrote 2 of them!
09:50 <wrtlprnft> my formula parser's gonna be recursive :)
09:50 <wrtlprnft> and the widget parser is too
09:51 <wrtlprnft> but grats :)
09:51 <Lucifer_arma> formula parser has to be recursive :)
09:52 <wrtlprnft> could be something with goto
09:52 <Lucifer_arma> wiat a minute, I had something worked out in my head that wasn't recursive, hmmmmm....
09:52 <wrtlprnft> if you have brackets recursive parsing is a lot easier
09:52 <Lucifer_arma> well, I guess that's how you resolve brackets and parenthesis
09:53 <Lucifer_arma> and I admit what I had in my head wasn't very advanced :)
09:53 <wrtlprnft> brackes != parenthesis?
09:53 <Lucifer_arma> [ = bracket, ( = parenthesis
09:53 <wrtlprnft> x�h
09:53 <wrtlprnft> *ah
09:53  * Lucifer_arma is thinking just how you'd write the formula, not necessarily how you'd type it
09:53 <wrtlprnft> hmm, it won't support [] quite yet
09:53  * wrtlprnft thought [] == square brackets
09:54 <Lucifer_arma> and it's not a common convention to support [] in computerized formula parsers :)
09:54  * wrtlprnft thought {} == curly brackets
09:54 <Lucifer_arma> at least, I don't think it is, hmmm
09:54  * wrtlprnft thought () == round brackets
09:54  * wrtlprnft thought <> == angle brackets
09:54 <Lucifer_arma> { = brace
09:54 <Lucifer_arma> < = less than
09:54 <Lucifer_arma> heh
09:54 <Lucifer_arma> &lt;
09:55 <wrtlprnft> but in pairs they can be abused as brackets
09:55 <wrtlprnft> <div>
09:55 <wrtlprnft> std::deque<int>
09:55 <wrtlprnft> <.<
09:56 <wrtlprnft> <o-{{{><
10:14 <guru3> i just added it up
10:14 <guru3> and i've got
10:14 <guru3> 700+GB of shareable material
10:14 <guru3> :(
10:15 <wrtlprnft> o_O
10:16 <guru3> 500+ of it's multimedia
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13:16 <Brooky> Hi
13:18 <Sakireth> armageddtron
13:18 <joda_bot> Sakireth:  ?
13:18 <Sakireth> armagetron ;D
13:19 <Sakireth> i finally know how to pronounce it
13:19 <Sakireth> like "armageddon"
13:19 <spidey|sleep> .....
13:20 <joda_bot> Sakireth: ah ok
13:20 <Sakireth> i always called it differnet
13:20 <joda_bot> like ?
13:20 <Sakireth> like "armachetron"
13:20 <Sakireth> or stuff like that
13:20 <Sakireth> "armazjetron"
13:20 <joda_bot> Sakireth: where are you from ? ;)
13:21 <Sakireth> The netherlands
13:21 <Sakireth> :P
13:21 <joda_bot> ah, ok, that explains the wierd consonant combinations ;)
13:21 <joda_bot> germany here ;)
13:22 <Sakireth> k
13:25 <Brooky> i pronounce it differently
13:25 <Brooky> i say i
13:25 <Brooky> it*
13:25 <Brooky> arma - ge - tron
13:25 <Sakireth> lol
13:25 <Brooky> what you mean lol?
13:26 <Brooky> :-)
13:27 <Sakireth> arma ge tron?
13:27 <Sakireth> armagitron?
13:27 <Sakireth> I think it's meant to sound like "armageddon"
13:27 <Sakireth> armage tron
13:28 <spidey|sleep> the only thing they have incommon is the armage
13:28 <spidey|sleep> "tron" makes it sound way different from armageddon :p
13:30  * spidey|sleep goes back to sleep
13:30 <Sakireth> yeah
13:30 <Sakireth> g'night
13:31 <Brooky> lol
13:31 <Brooky> well......
13:31 <Brooky> its kind of based on the film tron
13:31 <Brooky> have any of you seen it?
13:31 <Sakireth> I played tron 2.0 >:3
13:31 <Brooky> the bikes
13:32 <Brooky> and....
13:32 <Brooky> armagedon is a film 0_o
13:32 <wrtlprnft> trin 
13:32 <wrtlprnft> tron too
13:34 <Brooky> sometimes i just call it tron to keep it simple lol
13:35 <Sakireth> Does anyone know a better alternative to freewebs?
13:36  * spidey|sleep yawns
13:36  * spidey|sleep can't sleep anymore :<
13:36 <spidey|sleep> freewebs?
13:36 <spidey|sleep> ew
13:37 <Brooky> lol
13:37 <Brooky> yes
13:37 <Brooky> do what i do
13:37 <Brooky> host yourself
13:37 <Sakireth> Oh i tried that so many time
13:37 <Sakireth> s
13:37 <Sakireth> But then i got lots of visitors
13:37 <Sakireth> then boom
13:37 <Sakireth> :P
13:37 <spidey|sleep> LOL
13:37 <Sakireth> So then i got free hosting..
13:37 <Sakireth> But now i'm too lazy to code in PHP
13:37 <Sakireth> so i need a sitebuilder
13:37 <Sakireth> >_<
13:37 <Sakireth> a CMS
13:37 <spidey|sleep> dreamweaver
13:38 <Sakireth> A x00ps =)
13:38 <spidey|sleep> phpnuke?
13:38 <Sakireth> phpnuke
13:38 <Sakireth> :O
13:38 <spidey|sleep> phpnuke = gay :)
13:38 <spidey|sleep> and
13:38 <spidey|sleep> just about the most vulnerable thing out there
13:39 <Sakireth> Xoops!!
13:39 <Brooky> spidy change you name
13:39 <Brooky> lol
13:39 <spidey|sleep> no
13:39 <Brooky> why not~?
13:39 <spidey|sleep> because i might go back to sleep
13:39 <spidey|sleep> or try again
13:39 <Brooky> change it if you go
13:39 <Brooky> lol
13:39 <spidey|sleep> O_o
13:39 <Sakireth> Xoops!!
13:39 <spidey|sleep> Xoops what?
13:39 <Sakireth> http://www.xoops.org/
13:39 <Brooky> lol
13:40 <madmax|pt> good morning happy people
13:40 <madmax|pt> o_O
13:40 <spidey|sleep> O_o
13:40 <Sakireth> madmax|pt: Hi! ^_^
13:42 <Brooky> hi
13:43  * spidey|sleep denkt  wrtlprnft kurz ist
13:43 <spidey|sleep> O_o
13:43 <Brooky> pardon
13:43 <Brooky> was that german?
13:43 <Brooky> i can only speak english
13:43 <Brooky> lol
13:43 <spidey|sleep> me too
13:44 <Brooky> abit of french that i did for GCSE
13:44 <spidey|sleep> http://translate.google.com/translate_t
13:44 <spidey|sleep> lahl
13:44 <Brooky> lol
13:45  * spidey|sleep think that the wrtlprnft is short 
13:45 <spidey|sleep> 'er
13:45  * spidey|sleep pense que le wrtlprnft est court
13:45 <spidey|sleep> O_o
13:45 <madmax|pt> what about portuguese!?
13:45 <spidey|sleep> eu te amo maximo! 
13:46 <madmax|pt> wtf
13:46 <madmax|pt> lol
13:46 <spidey|sleep> :p
13:47 <spidey|sleep> te amo is also spanish O_o
13:47 <madmax|pt> we actually say "amo-te <put person here>"
13:47 <spidey|sleep> mmm
13:48 <madmax|pt> the translators usually get more close to the portuguese from brasil
13:48 <Brooky> lol
13:48 <Brooky> g2g guys
13:48 <Brooky> bye
13:48 <madmax|pt> cya
13:49 <spidey|sleep> oh meu deus hax!
13:49 <Sakireth> bye
13:53 <spidey|sleep> i'm debating
13:53 <spidey|sleep> goto sleep
13:53 <spidey|sleep> go flirt with girls
13:53 <spidey|sleep> i'm very tired O_o
13:53 <Sakireth> :sleep
13:53 <Sakireth> goto sleep
13:53 <Sakireth> lol
13:53 <spidey|sleep> shhhh
13:53 <spidey|sleep> i'm  thinking
13:54 <Sakireth> can you, with your tiredness?
13:54 <spidey|sleep> i have 2 hours till my uncle gets up
13:54 <spidey|sleep> so i gotta makeup my mind before then :p
13:54 <Sakireth> GOooooooooooooo to sleeeeeeeeeeep..
13:54 <Sakireth> Go to sleep
13:54 <Sakireth> YOu want to go to sleep
13:54 <Sakireth> :P
13:55 <spidey|sleep> ok i've got a plan
13:55 <Sakireth> :O
13:55 <spidey|sleep> i'ma sleep for 2 hours,then goto the river O_o
13:56 <Sakireth> Good boy
13:56 <Sakireth> ^^
13:56 <Sakireth> Now to see if you wake up in 2 hours ;)
13:56 <spidey|sleep> :|
13:56 <spidey|sleep> i will
13:56 <Sakireth> Good.
13:56 <spidey|sleep> cause my uncle will  jump on me :/
13:56 <Sakireth> Sorry i did that to ya
13:56 <Sakireth> Good night :p
13:56 <spidey|sleep> he can't let no one sleep when he's not
13:56 <spidey|sleep> :|
13:56 <Sakireth> sorry, was for your own good.
13:56 <Sakireth> :P
13:56  * spidey|sleep goes back to sleep
13:57 <Sakireth> good boy ^^
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14:39 <guru3> hahah the funniest thing just happened
14:39 <guru3> my mom was picking through some berries she'd just washed
14:39 <guru3> and was like
14:39 <guru3> 'some stuff can survive washing, like this bug'
14:39 <guru3> then there was a second of silence and
14:39 <guru3> 'oh wait, it's a twig.'
14:43 <madmax|pt> #dict twig
14:43 <armabot> madmax|pt: wn, foldoc, gcide, and moby-thes responded: gcide: Twig \Twig\, v. t. To beat with twigs. [1913 Webster]; gcide: Twig \Twig\ (tw[i^]g), v. t. [imp. & p. p. {Twigged} (tw[i^]gd); p. pr. & vb. n. {Twigging}.] [Cf. {Tweak}.] To twitch; to pull; to tweak. [Obs. or Scot.] [1913 Webster]; foldoc: TWIG Tree-Walking Instruction Generator. A {code generator} language. {ML-Twig} is (7 more messages)
14:44 <madmax|pt> o_O
14:44 <madmax|pt> hmm
14:44 <madmax|pt> #google define:twig
14:44 <armabot> madmax|pt: No matches found. (Search took 0.00 seconds)
14:45 <madmax|pt> heh
14:45  * madmax|pt is away
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16:15 <Brooky> lol
16:15 <Brooky> its a twig
16:15 <Brooky> thats a classic
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17:05 <Sakireth_> #dict tweak
17:05 <armabot> Sakireth_: wn, foldoc, jargon, gcide, and moby-thes responded: gcide: Tweak \Tweak\, v. t. [OE. twikken, originally the same word as twicchen; cf. LG. twikken. See {Twitch}.] To pinch and pull with a sudden jerk and twist; to twitch; as, to tweak the nose. --Shak. [1913 Webster]; gcide: Tweak \Tweak\, n. 1. A sharp pinch or jerk; a twist or twitch; as, a tweak of the nose. --Swift. (6 more messages)
17:05 <Sakireth_> #dict eat
17:05 <armabot> Sakireth_: wn, devils, gcide, and moby-thes responded: devils: EAT, v.i. To perform successively (and successfully) the functions of mastication, humectation, and deglutition. "I was in the drawing-room, enjoying my dinner," said Brillat- Savarin, beginning an anecdote. "What!" interrupted Rochebriant; "eating dinner in a drawing-room?" "I must beg you to observe, monsieur," explained the (11 more messages)
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17:47 <mkzelda>  Genghis Tron is a band of surprises. Their melding of brutal grind and ethereal electronics has a tendency to leave even the drunkest or most jaded audience with their jaws on the floor.
17:47 <ghableska> o_O
17:47 <mkzelda> hehe, good band name
17:53 -!- spidey|sleep is now known as spidey
18:11 <Luke-Jr> guru3: ...
18:12 <guru3> ?
18:12 <[NP]Tangent> mkzelda, that a real band?
18:13 <Luke-Jr> guru3: your story was nowhere near as funny as armabot
18:13 <guru3> oh
18:13 <guru3> and?
18:13 <Luke-Jr> defines twig in every possible way except the most relevant =p
18:14 <guru3> heh
18:14 <mkzelda> yea its a real band
18:14 <[NP]Tangent> #insult spidey
18:14 <armabot> spidey - You are nothing but a droning puddle of mammering droppings. 
18:14 <Luke-Jr> guru3: would you be opposed to inflating our # of authors? ;)
18:15 <guru3> eh?
18:15 <Luke-Jr> eh, have resource submissions get sent to CIA with the author set
18:15 <Luke-Jr> thus resource authors would be considered project members by CIA
18:15 <Luke-Jr> as it is right now, they get sent to CIA w/o an author and just a commit msg
18:17 <guru3> mmm
18:17 <guru3> i dunno
18:17 <mkzelda> http://www.rickroot.com/blog/1/2005/06/The-100-Worst-Porn-Movie-Titles-of-All-Time.cfm (NSFW)
18:20 <mkzelda> tea bagger vance is a new one to me
18:20 <mkzelda> thats amused me the most
18:36 <spidey> O_o
18:39 <spidey> #insult "[NP]Tangent"
18:39 <armabot> [NP]Tangent - You are nothing but a boil-brained half-mouthful of motley-mind guano. 
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19:01 <Sakireth_> #insult "Spidey"
19:01 <armabot> Spidey - You are nothing but a clapper-clawed enema-bucketful of industrial urine. 
19:01 <Sakireth_> #insult "armabot"
19:01 <armabot> armabot - You are nothing but a half-faced thimbleful of dread-bolted seagull. 
19:01 <Sakireth_> #insult "/quit"
19:01 <armabot> /quit - You are nothing but a bootless coagulation of hacked-up snouts. 
19:02 <Sakireth_> aww
19:02 <Sakireth_> :P
19:02 <Sakireth_> #insult "\r\nQUIT"
19:02 <armabot> '\r\nQUIT - You are nothing but a fawning ooze of porous cat. '
19:02 <Sakireth_> okay those were my hack attempts
19:02 <Sakireth_> xD
19:02 <spidey> .....
19:02 <Sakireth_> I was just kiddin' :P
19:03 <Sakireth_> Although something like that is easily exploitable
19:03 <spidey> i bet it's not
19:03 <Sakireth_> for how much?
19:03 <Sakireth_> your rank in your clan? =)
19:04 <spidey> huh?
19:04 <Sakireth_> You wanna bet.
19:04 <Sakireth_> So for what?
19:04 <Sakireth_> You give me your car, i give you a html page.
19:04 <spidey> lol......
19:05 <Sakireth_> You can have the html page for free
19:05 <Sakireth_> <html>
19:05 <Sakireth_> <head>
19:05 <Sakireth_> <title>Unknown</title>
19:05 <Sakireth_> </head>
19:05 <Sakireth_> <body>
19:05 <Sakireth_> <b>This is an html page.</b>
19:05 <Sakireth_> </body>
19:05 <Sakireth_> </html>
19:05 <Sakireth_> ^_^
19:05 <spidey> zomg you know html
19:05 <Sakireth_> And PHP
19:05 <Sakireth_> and pythojn
19:05 <Sakireth_> and C
19:05 <Sakireth_> and C++
19:05 <Sakireth_> and XML
19:06 <spidey> now am i impressed, no :)
19:06 <Sakireth_> and BASH
19:06 <Sakireth_> xD
19:06 <Sakireth_> and batch
19:06 <Sakireth_> and js
19:06 <Sakireth_> and visual basic
19:06 <Sakireth_> and linux
19:06 <Sakireth_> and have tried every distro
19:06 <Sakireth_> xD
19:06 <spidey> right
19:06 <Sakireth_> and am 14 years of age
19:06 <Sakireth_> and this all is not a lie.
19:06 <Sakireth_> i have proof.
19:06 <Sakireth_> http://www.freewebs.com/sakireth
19:07 <Sakireth_> good way to spam for your website, eh? ^^
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19:11  * spidey pokes Vanhayes 
19:14 <spidey> isn't pie 3.15 ?
19:29  * Vanhayes pokes spidey back
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19:33 <Brooky> do you do css?
19:34 <Luke-Jr> spidey: ...........
19:34 <Sakireth_> yes
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19:34 <Vanhayes> hey ghableska
19:34 <Luke-Jr> spidey: pi is 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399371 & more I can't remember
19:34 <ghableska> hi Vanhayes
19:34 <Brooky> did you write the css file for your site?
19:34 <madmax|pt> bye "pie" you meant "pi" ?
19:35 <madmax|pt> *by
19:35 <madmax|pt> argh
19:35 <spidey> Luke-Jr,  basically 22 over 7?
19:35 <Luke-Jr> spidey: not at all
19:36 <Brooky> lol
19:36 <spidey> #g 22/7
19:36 <armabot> 22 / 7 = 3.14285714
19:36 <Luke-Jr> way off
19:36 <spidey> er
19:36 <spidey> then these guys are telling me wrong
19:36 <Vanhayes> "pie" is a delicous dessert that usually has fruit filling with a baked crust around it
19:36 <Luke-Jr> spidey: probably
19:36 <Brooky> Yes
19:36 <spidey> here's what it says
19:36 <Luke-Jr> spidey: there is no short way to represent pi accurately
19:37 <spidey> what is the area of the circle whose radius is seven feet
19:37 <spidey> they have
19:37 <Luke-Jr> typed out, pi would take more space than the entire internet holds
19:37 <spidey> 22 over 7 *7 *7
19:37 <Luke-Jr> 153.938
19:37 <madmax|pt> area=pi*r^2
19:37 <spidey> yes
19:37 <spidey> but they get 154
19:37 <Brooky> here is a fact for you
19:37 <Brooky> The fraction (22 / 7) is a well used number for Pi. It is accurate to 0.04025%.
19:38 <Luke-Jr> they are off by 0.062 at least
19:38 <madmax|pt> Pi is an irrational number (it cannot be expressed by any simple fraction of two integers)
19:38 <madmax|pt> boo
19:38 <spidey> they are on all of it then O_o
19:38 <spidey> so i do it there way and get a good grade,or the right way and fail?
19:38 <spidey> O_o
19:38 <spidey> i'll work it there way
19:38 <Brooky> well
19:38 <Brooky> even better
19:38 <Luke-Jr> if they fail you for doing it the right way, sue em =p
19:38 <spidey> LOL
19:38 <madmax|pt> i agree
19:39 <Brooky> The fraction (22 / 7) is a well used number for Pi. It is accurate to 0.04025%.
19:39 <Brooky> Another fraction used as an approximation to Pi is (355 / 113) which is accurate to 0.00000849%
19:39 <Brooky>  A more accurate fraction of Pi is(104348 / 33215). This is accurate to 0.00000001056%.
19:39 <Brooky> ok?
19:39 <Brooky> There is no zero in the first 31 digits of Pi
19:39 <Luke-Jr> BTW, pi is technically written as a T with 2 vertical lines instead of 1
19:40 <Luke-Jr> Brooky: all of those fractions are less accurate than my memory
19:40 <Brooky> ok
19:40 <Luke-Jr> 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399371 <-- pi as in my memory
19:41 <Brooky> The square root of 9.869604401 is approximately Pi. The square root of a irrational number is irrational too.
19:42 <Brooky> 3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993751058209749445923078164062862089986280348253421170679 is mine
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19:42 <Brooky> this fraction is 100% accurate
19:42 <Brooky> Pi in fraction form is - 837393900/266550757
19:42 <Brooky> try it
19:43 <Luke-Jr> Brooky: wow, you've got pi to double my memory o.o
19:43 <spidey> lol
19:43 <wrtlprnft> it is not 100% accurate
19:43 <Brooky> is
19:44 <wrtlprnft> not 
19:44 <Brooky> is
19:44 <Brooky> lol
19:44 <Luke-Jr> nope
19:44 <Brooky> Taking the first 6,000,000,000 decimal places of Pi, this is the distribution: 
19:44 <Brooky> 0 occurs 599,963,005 times, 
19:44 <Brooky> 1 occurs 600,033,260 times, 
19:44 <Brooky> 2 occurs 599,999,169 times, 
19:44 <Brooky> 3 occurs 600,000,243 times, 
19:44 <Brooky> 4 occurs 599,957,439 times, 
19:44 <Luke-Jr> should one of us wrote a program to prove it?
19:44 <Brooky> 5 occurs 600,017,176 times, 
19:44 <Brooky> 6 occurs 600,016,588 times, 
19:44 <Brooky> 7 occurs 600,009,044 times, 
19:44 <Brooky> 8 occurs 599,987,038 times, 
19:44 <Brooky> 9 occurs 600,017,038 times. 
19:44 <Brooky> no
19:44 <Brooky> right
19:45 <Brooky> i got to go for now
19:45 <Brooky> bye
19:45 <Luke-Jr> actually
19:45 <Luke-Jr> I used to have a math formula to calculate pi memorized ;)
19:45 <Brooky> ok
19:45 <Brooky> any way bye
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19:47 <spidey> #g 3.142857142857142857235788757641614665772 * 7 *7
19:47 <armabot> 3.142857142857142857235788757641614665772 * 7 * 7 = 154
19:47 <spidey> that's the answer they get
19:47 <spidey> O_o
19:49 <spidey> oh well
19:49  * spidey uses armabot as a calculator in pm
19:49 -!- spidey is now known as McSpiddles
19:56 <Luke-Jr> McSpiddles: don't think #g does decimals
19:57 <McSpiddles> heh
19:57 <McSpiddles> McSpiddles #g 3.142857142857142857235788757641614665772*10.5*10.5
19:57 <McSpiddles> armabot 3.142857142857142857235788757641614665772 * 10.5 * 10.5 = 346.5
19:57 <McSpiddles> McSpiddles #g 3.142857142857142857235788757641614665772*14*14
19:57 <McSpiddles> armabot 3.142857142857142857235788757641614665772 * 14 * 14 = 616
19:57 <McSpiddles> McSpiddles #g 3.142857142857142857235788757641614665772*2*2
19:57 <McSpiddles> armabot 3.142857142857142857235788757641614665772 * 2 * 2 = 12.5714286
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20:08 <McSpiddles> done with 1 of 3 math books
20:08 <Vanhayes> your doing math in the summer?
20:10 <ghableska> o_O
20:11 <Vanhayes> should "join autoselected team" put me on a team?
20:14 <McSpiddles> Vanhayes, summer school
20:14 <Vanhayes> you failed?
20:14 <McSpiddles> Vanhayes, i started this homeschool thing late in the year because i spent the summer before on a 18wheeler with my uncle and we didn't get back home intime to start at a normal time
20:15 <McSpiddles> failed?
20:15 <McSpiddles> not this year
20:15 <McSpiddles> but the 2 years before i did
20:15 <McSpiddles> hence in 8th grade still :p
20:15 <McSpiddles> hopefully 9th next year O_o
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20:16 <Vanhayes> wait, your in 9th grade and you are 16?
20:17 <McSpiddles> no
20:17 <McSpiddles> i'm 16 in the 8th grade
20:17 <McSpiddles> ok here's how it went
20:17 <McSpiddles> i failed 8th grade twice
20:17 <McSpiddles> if pass this year i will be 17 in 9th grade
20:17 <Vanhayes> damn that would suck
20:18 <McSpiddles> when you goto school with a bunch of wanna be bullies,fights start easy
20:18 <McSpiddles> and i don't let people push me around so i got suspended alot :p
20:18 <ghableska> :P
20:18 <McSpiddles> hence the failed twice
20:18 <McSpiddles> and is why i'm in homeschool now
20:19 <Vanhayes> ya that happened in grade 8 yo me too, i got in a big fight in front of the school and was suspended for a week, plus it happened on my birthday which sucked
20:19 <Vanhayes> I hated that guy
20:20 <Vanhayes> he always trid to start shit and we always got suspended
20:20 <McSpiddles> i never fought unless they hit me first
20:21 <McSpiddles> besides that i tried to settle most of it out of school
20:21 <Vanhayes> well I usually just beat the shit out of him when ever he started talking shit to me
20:21  * McSpiddles has a recording of a gay at school twice my size getting his ass whooped :)
20:21 <McSpiddles> s/gay/guy
20:23 <Vanhayes> I dont know what it was about this guy, I knew him since grade one and every year we had it out at least once
20:25 <McSpiddles> heh
20:25 <McSpiddles> yea
20:25 <Vanhayes> anyway he moved before grade 9 and I haven t seen him since
20:28 <McSpiddles> mmm
20:28 <madmax|pt> track him down
20:28 <madmax|pt> lol
20:28 <Vanhayes> lol
20:28 <McSpiddles> from first grade to 5th grade
20:28 <McSpiddles> i had this best friend
20:28 <McSpiddles> by 6th grade we didn't talk anymore
20:29 <McSpiddles> in 7thgrade he started hanging out with girls more and now acts gay
20:29 <McSpiddles> and i don't mean that as sarcasm
20:29 <McSpiddles> i mean literally
20:29 <madmax|pt> o_O
20:29 <madmax|pt> how much years you guys have before university?
20:29 <madmax|pt> 12?
20:30 <McSpiddles> i'm not going to college
20:30 <McSpiddles> infact i won't graduate
20:30 <McSpiddles> when i turn 17 i'm getting my GED
20:30 <madmax|pt> buuuuut, its 12?
20:30 <McSpiddles> um
20:30 <Vanhayes> hope fully 1 more year till im out of highschool
20:30 <McSpiddles> i could go when i turn 18
20:30 <Vanhayes> should be out now
20:31 <Vanhayes> and it is either alberta, army, both, or(maybe) university after high school
20:33 <Luke-Jr> z-man-home: how did you do deathmatch??
20:33 <Vanhayes> madmax|pt it is 12 years of school before university yes
20:33 <z-man-home> Luke-Jr: scan the source for RESPAWN_HACK
20:34 <Luke-Jr> trunk>?
20:34 <z-man-home> or 0.2.8
20:35  * McSpiddles loves the respawn thing
20:35 <Vanhayes> ya me too,alot of fun
20:35 <McSpiddles> even more cause people try to attack while blinking and usually stop blinking and run into my wall
20:36 <Luke-Jr> lol
20:36 <Luke-Jr> wanna play?
20:36 <McSpiddles> sure
20:37 <McSpiddles> only for a few,got 2 more math books to do
20:37 <Vanhayes> what do you mena math books?
20:37 <Vanhayes> mean*
20:37 <Vanhayes> text books?
20:37 <McSpiddles> no
20:37 <McSpiddles> packets
20:37 <McSpiddles> deathmatch = not reachable
20:38 <McSpiddles> erm,nvm
20:38 <McSpiddles> bookmarks are wrong
20:56 <McSpiddles> lol luke
20:56 <Luke-Jr> i suck
20:56 <Luke-Jr> =p
20:56 <McSpiddles> :p
21:01 <McSpiddles> #g 31786+22151+5760
21:01 <armabot> 31,786 + 22,151 + 5,760 = 59,697
21:01 <McSpiddles> #g 59697/2
21:01 <armabot> 59,697 / 2 = 29,848.5
21:03 <Lucifer_arma> madmax|pt: 13 here, counting kindergarten
21:03  * McSpiddles went to pre-school :/
21:06 <Vanhayes> well ya there is 13 here too including kindergarden, though i dont think you Have to go to kindergarden
21:07 <Vanhayes> I know there is 13 years not including kindergarden in ontario, which is weird
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21:13 <McSpiddles> lol
21:13 <McSpiddles> my puppies kill count is raising
21:13 <Vanhayes> ?
21:13 <McSpiddles> they caught another squirrel
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21:14 <Vanhayes> heh dogs love chasing squirels
21:14 <McSpiddles> they done killed a deer
21:14 <McSpiddles> actually
21:14 <McSpiddles> they killed bambi
21:14 <Vanhayes> yopur dog killed a deer?
21:14 <McSpiddles> baby deer
21:14 <ghableska> o_O
21:15 <McSpiddles> and
21:15 <McSpiddles> everything they kill
21:15 <McSpiddles> they bring on the porch
21:15 <McSpiddles> so i gotta carry it off again :/
21:15 <Vanhayes> was gonna say, that would be impressive, a dog takeing down a full grown deer
21:15 <McSpiddles> well
21:15 <McSpiddles> it is 2 black labs
21:15 <McSpiddles> i wouldn't be suprised if they could when they're full grown
21:16 <McSpiddles> they're 6 months old and already hunting
21:16 <McSpiddles> though i don't know why
21:16 <McSpiddles> they can't be hungry
21:16 <McSpiddles> i feed them each a big bowl in the morning and before i goto sleep
21:17 <Vanhayes> the like to kill I guess
21:17 <McSpiddles> O_o
21:18 <Lucifer_arma> #dict inheritable
21:18 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: wn and gcide responded: wn: inheritable adj : that can be inherited; "inheritable traits such as eye color"; "an inheritable title" [syn: {heritable}] [ant: {noninheritable}]; gcide: Inheritable \In*her"it*a*ble\, a. 1. Capable of being inherited; transmissible or descendible; as, an inheritable estate or title. --Blackstone. [1913 Webster] 2. Capable of being transmitted from (2 more messages)
21:18 <Lucifer_arma> #more
21:18 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: parent to child; as, inheritable qualities or infirmities. [1913 Webster] 3. [Cf. OF. enheritable, inheritable.] Capable of taking by inheritance, or of receiving by descent; capable of succeeding to, as an heir. [1913 Webster] By attainder . . . the blood of the person attainted is so corrupted as to be rendered no longer inheritable. --Blackstone. [1913 Webster] The eldest daughter (1 more message)
21:18 <Lucifer_arma> #more
21:18 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: of the king is also alone inheritable to the crown on failure of issue male. --Blackstone. [1913 Webster] {Inheritable blood}, blood or relationship by which a person becomes qualified to be an heir, or to transmit possessions by inheritance. [1913 Webster]
21:18 <Lucifer_arma> not many synonyms :(
21:19  * McSpiddles is gonna train his dogs to bite on command
21:19 <McSpiddles> BITE Lucifer_arma,and they attack
21:19 <McSpiddles> that would be cool
21:19  * Lucifer_arma bites McSpiddles 
21:19 <McSpiddles> lol
21:19 <Lucifer_arma> make sure you explain to them that some humans bite back
21:19 <McSpiddles> haha
21:20 <Lucifer_arma> you know, so they can make the most educated decision possible
21:20 <McSpiddles> you do know
21:20 <McSpiddles> blacklabs have the intelligance of a 5y/o
21:20 <Lucifer_arma> wow, my 5yo is pretty smart
21:20 <McSpiddles> yea
21:20 <Lucifer_arma> hmm, does that mean your dogs are smarter than you?
21:20 <McSpiddles> i think they're the smartest breed
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21:20 <McSpiddles> possibly O_o
21:21 <Lucifer_arma> well, my 5yo  isn't smart enough not to fuck with me, so I guess you'd better warn your dogs that anything that attacks me is food
21:21 <McSpiddles> haha
21:22 <McSpiddles> they're easy to train man
21:22 <McSpiddles> i spent 2 days 
21:22 <McSpiddles> 10 minutes a day
21:22 <McSpiddles> teaching one of them that 'paw" means shake
21:22 <Vanhayes> I think that border collies are the smartest dogs
21:22 <McSpiddles> now when you say "paw" he sticks his paw up
21:23 <Lucifer_arma> I think Chihuahuas are the dumbest dogs
21:23 <McSpiddles> i agree
21:23 <Vanhayes> I agree
21:23  * McSpiddles has one
21:23 <McSpiddles> O_o
21:23 <ghableska> o_O
21:23 <Vanhayes> they justy creep me out
21:23 <ghableska> lol
21:23  * McSpiddles wonders if ghableska has that as a auto response
21:23 <McSpiddles> O_o
21:23 <McSpiddles> guess not
21:23 <McSpiddles> lol
21:23 <Lucifer_arma> *_&
21:24 <McSpiddles> oh yea
21:24 <Lucifer_arma> my wife offered to pluck my eyebrows for me, I asked her to only do the middle so I can thicken up my uni-brow
21:24 <McSpiddles> i gotta take a picture of my chiuaua for van
21:24 <McSpiddles> to show him there's different breeds
21:24 <McSpiddles> not all have huge heads and little bodies
21:24 <Vanhayes> still they are freaky looking
21:25 <Lucifer_arma> chihuahuas aren't a naturally occuring dog, are they?  I mean, they're something humans put together through weird breeding programs to make a dog that looked as pathetic as possible
21:25 <McSpiddles> haha
21:25 <Vanhayes> yes, they are a genetic mistake
21:25 <McSpiddles> i have a raindeer chihuahua
21:25 <McSpiddles> #dict raindeer chihuahua
21:25 <armabot> McSpiddles: No definition for "raindeer chihuahua" could be found.
21:25 <ghableska> antlers?
21:25 <ghableska> :P
21:25 <Vanhayes> lol
21:26 <McSpiddles> #google raindeer chihuahua
21:26 <armabot> McSpiddles: Search took 0.56 seconds: Pet Central Cafe [Archive] - Page 5 - PetLovers.Com: <http://forums.petlovers.com/vb/archive/index.php/f-33-p-5.html>; Slashdot | What Kind of Office Space Do You Want to Work In? OSTG ...: <http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/08/16/2228206>; eBay - Pencil Graphite Drawings From collectibles to cars, buy and ...: (3 more messages)
21:26 <Vanhayes> #dict chiuaua
21:26 <armabot> Vanhayes: No definition for "chiuaua" could be found.
21:26 <Vanhayes> #dict dog
21:26 <armabot> Vanhayes: devils, gcide, easton, wn, bouvier, and moby-thes responded: gcide: Sundog \Sun"dog`\, n. (Meteorol.) 1. A luminous spot occasionally seen a few degrees from the sun, supposed to be formed by the intersection of two or more halos, or in a manner similar to that of halos. [1913 Webster] 2. A fragmentary rainbow; a small rainbow near the horizon; -- called also {dog} and (33 more messages)
21:26 <McSpiddles> hold on
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21:27 <Lucifer_arma> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chihuahua_%28dog%29
21:28 <McSpiddles> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:ChihuahuaPrue.jpg
21:28 <Lucifer_arma> apparently they just think there's a possibility they were bred in China, since the chinese used to like to shrink stuff
21:28 <McSpiddles> there's a pure chihuahua
21:28  * Lucifer_arma wonders if chinese men all have small penises
21:28 <Lucifer_arma> other than that, they're pretty sure chihuahuas came to Mexico from Spain, but from where before Spain they don't know for sure
21:29 <McSpiddles> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:CHIHUAHUA_DOG.JPG
21:29 <McSpiddles> that's something like what mine looks like
21:29 <Vanhayes> that one isnt that bad but I think dogs should be bigger than cats
21:29 <McSpiddles> only the white isn't that bright
21:29 <McSpiddles> and the black is brawn
21:29 <McSpiddles> brown
21:29 <Vanhayes> heh why is called a reindeer chiuaua?
21:30 <Lucifer_arma> every small dog I've known has been really hyperactive
21:30 <Lucifer_arma> that drives me nuts
21:30 <McSpiddles> mine's not hyper
21:30 <McSpiddles> mine's old
21:30 <McSpiddles> like 8-9
21:30 <Lucifer_arma> does he smoke pot like the one in Dude, Where's my Car?
21:30 <McSpiddles> LOL
21:30 <McSpiddles> no
21:31 <McSpiddles> mine has some grey hair
21:31 <McSpiddles> O_o
21:31 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, I've got a grey hair
21:31 <McSpiddles> haha
21:31 <Lucifer_arma> seems to be gone now, I wonder where it went?  I noticed it a couple of nights ago, it had dropped down in front of my eye
21:32 <Lucifer_arma> my beard is shot with white, when it's there anyway :)
21:33 <McSpiddles> heh
21:34 <McSpiddles> ghableska has grey hair
21:34 <ghableska> o_O
21:34  * ghableska quickly dyes hair
21:34 <Lucifer_arma> I thought ghableska was a kid?
21:34 <McSpiddles> just for men doesn't count
21:35  * Lucifer_arma has no intention of dying his hair, long grey hair is cool
21:35 <McSpiddles> LOL
21:35 <ghableska> :P
21:37  * Luke-Jr ponders setting up a cron to build nightly AA Win32 builds =p
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22:12 <Luke-Jr> z-man-home: respawning needs client code, eh?
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22:48 <Vanhayes> wb ghableska
22:48 <ghableska> ty Vanhayes
23:06 <Luke-Jr> ...
23:07 <Luke-Jr> I complain about having 10 flies in my apartment in the past 10 hours to kill
23:07 <Luke-Jr> and I'm told I'm *talented*
23:07 <Luke-Jr> -.-
23:07 <ghableska> o.0
23:09  * Sakireth__ eats an apple
23:13 <Vanhayes> ghableska what was wrong with your ping?
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23:17 <ghableska> what?
23:18 <Vanhayes> when you cam ein as vanhayes in CT your ping was around 500
23:18 <ghableska> o_O
23:18 <ghableska> it's 152...
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23:35 <Lucifer_arma> #quote add
23:35 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
23:35 <Lucifer_arma> #quote add
23:35 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: (quote add [<channel>] <text>) -- Adds <text> to the $type database for <channel>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
23:36 <Lucifer_arma> #quote add If we were wolves and we snuck into China, they'd try to eat us, but we'd eat them.  --Lucifer's Son
23:36 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.  Quote #19 added.
23:36 <Lucifer_arma> #quote 19
23:36 <Lucifer_arma> #list Qute
23:36 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: 'Qute' is not a valid plugin.
23:36 <Lucifer_arma> #list Quote
23:36 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: add, change, get, random, remove, search, and stats
23:36 <Lucifer_arma> #quote get 19
23:36 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #19: "If we were wolves and we snuck into China, they'd try to eat us, but we'd eat them. --Lucifer's Son" (added by Lucifer_arma at 04:36 PM, July 05, 2006)
23:44 <wrtlprnft> #last --with wrtl
23:44 <armabot> wrtlprnft: [06:45:37] * spidey|sleep pense que le wrtlprnft est court
23:44 <ghableska> o_O
23:44 <wrtlprnft> uh, so i didn't miss anything
23:44 <wrtlprnft> #night
23:44 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
23:44 <ghableska> cya
23:44 <Vanhayes|eats> night
23:44 <ghableska> Vanhayes|eats what?
23:45 -!- Vanhayes|eats is now known as Vanhayes
23:45 <ghableska> :)
23:45 <Vanhayes> vanhayes eats burgers
23:45 <ghableska> oh
23:51 <McSpiddles> O_o
23:51 <McSpiddles> Vanhayes|eats ghableska 
23:51 <McSpiddles> o_O
23:52 <McSpiddles> errrr
23:52  * ghableska is unhealthy to eat
23:52 <madmax|pt> omg
23:52 <McSpiddles> floppy drive won't unmount
23:52 <McSpiddles> and that icon on my desktop is annoying
23:53 <madmax|pt> shoot it
23:54 <ghableska> eat it
23:54 <Vanhayes> call it names untill it crys
23:54 <ghableska> *gasp*
23:54 <ghableska> :P

Log from 2006-07-06:
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00:04 <Vanhayes> brb
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00:05 <Luke-Jr> wr
00:05 <Luke-Jr> wrtlprnft: 
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00:07 <ghableska> wb
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00:34  * Vanhayes pokes McSpiddles aka BlAzE
00:34  * McSpiddles pokes player 1
00:35 <Vanhayes> who was Xplod?
00:36 <McSpiddles> max
00:36 <McSpiddles> lol
00:36 <Vanhayes> lol
00:36 <McSpiddles> everyone else thought you was lucifer lol
00:36 <Vanhayes> heh I know
00:36 <McSpiddles> then everyone thought i was wrtlprnft or ghab
00:36 <McSpiddles> O_o
00:37 <McSpiddles> within the past week i've been
00:37 <McSpiddles> spidey
00:37 <McSpiddles> pyroteck
00:37 <McSpiddles> wrtl
00:37 <McSpiddles> ghab
00:37 <McSpiddles> and someone else i forget
00:37 <Vanhayes> ppl dont know that "only idiots write in colour all the time" is a default instant
00:37 <McSpiddles> heh
00:37 <Vanhayes> ppl always ask me if I am kyle when i am player 1
00:37 <McSpiddles> cause they don't press enter without pressing s
00:38 <McSpiddles> lol
00:39 <Vanhayes> well they ask me if I am kyle or "are you the real player 1?"
00:41 <McSpiddles> are you?
00:42 <Vanhayes> yes
00:42 <McSpiddles> sexi
01:31 <Niii> gn
01:33 <deja_vu_> *yaaawn*
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01:37 <Vanhayes> jey Lackadaisical
01:37 <Vanhayes> hey*
01:37 <Lackadaisical> hi Vanhayes 
01:39 <cusco> how do I attach a file whe emailing someone with mailx
01:50 <Vanhayes> #list
01:50 <armabot> Vanhayes: Admin, Alias, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, Dict, Games, Google, Herald, Insult, Later, Math, Misc, News, Owner, Praise, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Time, Unix, User, Utilities, and Web
01:50 <Vanhayes> #list games
01:50 <armabot> Vanhayes: coin, dice, eightball, monologue, and roulette
01:51 <Vanhayes> #list services
01:51 <armabot> Vanhayes: ghost, identify, invite, nicks, op, password, unban, and voice
01:51 <Vanhayes> #list misc
01:51 <armabot> Vanhayes: apropos, help, last, list, more, ping, source, tell, and version
01:51 <Vanhayes> #list Utilities
01:51 <armabot> Vanhayes: apply, echo, ignore, last, shuffle, and success
01:51 <Vanhayes> #help shuffle
01:51 <armabot> Vanhayes: (shuffle <arg> [<arg> ...]) -- Shuffles the arguments given it.
01:51 <Vanhayes> #shuffle V a n h a y e s
01:51 <armabot> Vanhayes: a s V e n h y a
01:52 <Vanhayes> #shuffle V a n h a y e s
01:52 <armabot> Vanhayes: a h a s e y V n
01:52 <Vanhayes> #shuffle V a n h a y e s
01:52 <armabot> Vanhayes: s n V a a e h y
01:52 <Vanhayes> #shuffle V a n h a y e s
01:52 <armabot> Vanhayes: e y h V s a n a
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01:52 <Vanhayes> #shuffle V a n h a y e s
01:52 <armabot> Vanhayes: y e s V n a h a
01:52 <ghableska> heh
01:52 <ghableska> hi
01:52 <Vanhayes> lol hey ghableska
01:52 <Vanhayes> finding a new nickname
01:52 <Vanhayes> #shuffle V a n h a y e s
01:52 <ghableska> hi Vanhayes
01:52 <armabot> Vanhayes: V a n y a h e s
01:52 <Vanhayes> #shuffle V a n h a y e s
01:52 <armabot> Vanhayes: a h e V y s a n
01:52 <ghableska> #shuffle ghableska
01:52 <armabot> ghableska: ghableska
01:53 <ghableska> er
01:53 <Vanhayes> Ha
01:53 <ghableska> wtf
01:53 <ghableska> #shuffle ghableska
01:53 <armabot> ghableska: ghableska
01:53 <ghableska> ...
01:53 <ghableska> Ooh
01:53 <Vanhayes> heh
01:53 <Vanhayes> #shuffle V a n h a y e s
01:53 <ghableska> #shuffle g h a b l e s k a
01:53 <armabot> Vanhayes: a a y s h V n e
01:53 <armabot> ghableska: a b s l e k g h a
01:53 <ghableska> abslekgha
01:53 <ghableska> lol
01:54 <Vanhayes> heh wonder if anyone will notice
01:54 <ghableska> I had my name backwards once, and I don't think anyone noticed
01:55 <ghableska> *noticed that it was me ;)
01:55 <madmax|pt> #shuffle madmax
01:55 <armabot> madmax|pt: madmax
01:55 <madmax|pt> o_O
01:55 <ghableska> :P
01:55 <ghableska> same mistake 
01:55 <ghableska> #shuffle m a d m a x
01:55 <armabot> ghableska: x d m m a a
01:55 <madmax|pt> heh
01:55 <Vanhayes> damn durka got it right away
01:55 <madmax|pt> #google x d m m a a
01:55 <armabot> madmax|pt: No matches found. (Search took 0.48 seconds)
01:55 <madmax|pt> lol
01:56 <Vanhayes> #shuffle V a n h a y e s
01:56 <armabot> Vanhayes: n a V e y a h s
01:56 <Vanhayes> #shuffle V a n h a y e s
01:56 <armabot> Vanhayes: h y s a n V e a
01:56 <Vanhayes> hmm
01:56 <Vanhayes> #shuffle P l a y e r 1
01:56 <armabot> Vanhayes: l y a e P 1 r
01:56 <Vanhayes> #shuffle P l a y e r 1
01:56 <armabot> Vanhayes: e l y a P r 1
01:56 <Vanhayes> #shuffle P l a y e r 1
01:56 <ghableska> o_
01:56 <armabot> Vanhayes: P r 1 a l e y
01:56 <Vanhayes> #shuffle P l a y e r 1
01:56 <armabot> Vanhayes: P 1 a y r e l
01:56 <Vanhayes> #shuffle P l a y e r 1
01:56 <armabot> Vanhayes: l r e 1 a y P
01:56 <ghableska> I prefer 1 reyalp
01:56 <ghableska> :P
01:57 <ghableska> or just reyalp, actually
01:57 <Vanhayes> heh I use that one too
01:57 <ghableska> I know ;)
01:57 <Vanhayes> lol
02:01 <Vanhayes> #shuffle P l a y e r 1 V a n h a y e s
02:01 <armabot> Vanhayes: l 1 a y e V P a e y n r h s a
02:01 <Vanhayes> lol too big
02:01 <ghableska> hehe
02:01 <McSpiddles> ....
02:01 <Vanhayes> #shuffle p l a y e r v a n h a y e s
02:01 <armabot> Vanhayes: r n y l a e y p a h v s a e
02:02 <Vanhayes> wait it just fits lol
02:02 <Vanhayes> #shuffle p l a y e r 1 v a n h a y e s
02:02 <ghableska> o_O
02:02 <armabot> Vanhayes: s y e p r h n v a a y a 1 e l
02:02 <ghableska> that takes more time to say it than to write it
02:02 <Vanhayes> lol
02:03 <McSpiddles> #shuffle s u p e r c a l a f r a g a l i s t i c e x p e a l a d o s e s z o m g w t f p w n
02:03 <armabot> McSpiddles: w s g i a e o o l f m l f n s p a s a z a e i e g r p c c a x p a r d s w u t t l e
02:03 <ghableska> I like the end, actually
02:03 <ghableska> "wuttle"
02:03 <Vanhayes> lool
02:03 <ghableska> sounds nice :)
02:03 <McSpiddles> lol
02:03 <Vanhayes> #shuffle p w n
02:03 <armabot> Vanhayes: w p n
02:03 <ghableska> Vanhayes: change your name to wuttle
02:04 <Vanhayes> #dict wuttle
02:04 <armabot> Vanhayes: No definition for "wuttle" could be found.
02:04 <deja_vu> O.o
02:04 <Vanhayes> heh just checking
02:06 <ghableska> #google wuttle
02:06 <armabot> ghableska: Search took 0.52 seconds: Facts and Figures 2002: <http://rru.worldbank.org/PapersLinks/Open.aspx?id=6966>; Tear Down The Projects Blog - Hoboken.com: <http://www.hoboken.com/?d=blog&blogtid=7>; TOWNWIDE FUND ST. PATRICK'S RUN MARCH 18, 2006 FINISH LINE ROAD ...: <http://www.flrrt.com/results/pat06.txt>; Comments on: China V India: Some random numbers: (3 more messages)
02:06 <ghableska> o.0
02:06 <Vanhayes> # google s y e p r h n v a a y a 1 e l
02:06 <armabot> Vanhayes: No matches found. (Search took 0.88 seconds)
02:06 <Vanhayes> #google s y e p r h n v a a y a 1 e l
02:06 <ghableska> lol
02:06 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: Error connecting to Google.com.
02:07 <ghableska> o_O
02:07 <Vanhayes> #google player 1
02:07 <armabot> Vanhayes: Search took 0.50 seconds: Download DivX for Windows: <http://www.divx.com/divx/download/>; MPEG Pointers and Resources: <http://www.mpeg.org/>; MPEG- 1 Player (no audio): <http://rnvs.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de/~jan/MPEG/MPEG_Play.html>; J!NX - Player 1 T-Shirt - Gamer Geek Nerd Hacker Computer: <http://www.jinx.com/scripts/details.asp?productID=547>; Secunia - Vulnerability (2 more messages)
02:08 <McSpiddles> #google Vanhayes
02:08 <armabot> McSpiddles: Search took 0.53 seconds: User: Vanhayes - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/User:Vanhayes>; Alientrap.org :: Viewing profile: <http://www.alientrap.org/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=242&sid=5b7119791fc2aadf7f92937f29cefca7>; na-wt.org :: Viewing profile: <http://na- (3 more messages)
02:08 <Vanhayes> heh
02:08 <Vanhayes> # google ghableska
02:08 <armabot> Vanhayes: Search took 0.49 seconds: Orbiter Forums: <http://orbit.m6.net/Forum/default.aspx?g=profile&u=842>; Microsoft Flight Simulator X - Off Topic - Orbiter Forums: <http://orbit.m6.net/Forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=1093>; Armagetron Forums :: Viewing profile: <http://forums.armagetronad.net/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=829&sid=f1f33e90075c5808d13be13547b7b247>; Armagetron Forums :: (2 more messages)
02:08 <ghableska> haha
02:08 <ghableska> all me ^_^
02:08 <McSpiddles> #more
02:08 <armabot> McSpiddles: wt.org/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=32&sid=c4ba6d2fd154eed7d5625a0aa7bf5aae>; Armagetron Advanced Servers: <http://aabeta.dashjr.org/serverlist.php?sort=address>; Armagetron Advanced Servers: <http://aabeta.dashjr.org/serverlist.php?sort=version>; Armagetron Forums :: View topic - BUG cries on Bugfarm Fortress ...: (2 more messages)
02:09 <McSpiddles> van you're from milan tennessee?
02:09 <McSpiddles> O_o
02:09 <McSpiddles> you're a house wife???
02:09 <McSpiddles> hahahahah
02:09 <ghableska> lololol
02:09 <McSpiddles> All about vanhayes
02:09 <McSpiddles> 	
02:09 <McSpiddles> Joined:  	01 Sep 2004
02:09 <McSpiddles> Total posts:  	1
02:09 <McSpiddles> [0.06% of total / 0.00 posts per day]
02:09 <McSpiddles> Find all posts by vanhayes
02:09 <McSpiddles> Location:  	Milan TN
02:09 <McSpiddles> Website:  	 
02:09 <McSpiddles> Occupation:  	housewife, sunday school teacher
02:09 <McSpiddles> Interests: 	Pets and Piano
02:10 <ghableska> no, it's Van-hayes, right?
02:10 <McSpiddles> no...
02:10 <McSpiddles> Vanhayes
02:10 <ghableska> on the forums
02:10 <Vanhayes> Van- hayes on arma forums yes
02:10 <ghableska> I've never seen the other Vanhayes before o_O
02:11 <Vanhayes> me either
02:11 <Vanhayes> er I did once but im pretty sure it was pimp
02:11 <ghableska> lol
02:11 <Vanhayes> and that milan one isnt me
02:11 <ghableska> what happened to pimp? :P
02:11 <Vanhayes> no clue
02:11 <Vanhayes> hell be back
02:12 <ghableska> heh
02:13  * ghableska slaps McSpiddles
02:13 <Vanhayes> lol
02:13 <ghableska> got bored...
02:13 <Vanhayes> #insult McSpiddles
02:13 <armabot> McSpiddles - You are nothing but a low-quality mass of ruttish carpet. 
02:13 <Vanhayes> heh the lazy way to insult
02:13 <ghableska> #insult Vanhayes
02:13 <armabot> Vanhayes - You are nothing but an evil puddle of dread-bolted craptacular. 
02:13 <ghableska> heh
02:13 <ghableska> "evil puddle" :)
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02:14 <Vanhayes> lol craptacular
02:14 <ghableska> #insult
02:14 <armabot> You are nothing but a reeky thimbleful of petrified cold.
02:26 <Vanhayes> #alias
02:26 <Vanhayes> er
02:26 <Vanhayes> #list alias
02:26 <armabot> Vanhayes: #, 42, add, admin, all, answer, anvil, armabot, armabot,, b, barf, bug, canada, canada2, ch, chatlog, clash, coin, digg, dotdotdot, eightballs, eliza, f, fe, fluffy, fortune, g, gcalc, goodbye, hello, help, hose, ignoreme, insight, it's, joke, knock, less, lipsum, lock, log, log, lotto, lucifer, luciferarma, lukejr, m, man, mashuffle, message, mfaq, missed, morning, night, pang, parrot, (1 more message)
02:26 <Vanhayes> #more
02:26 <armabot> Vanhayes: peng, poke, pong, postal, pun, pung, pushredbutton, q, realchatlogs, remove, roulete, roulettebot, roulettte, scare, sdasupport, selfcleanalias, should, spam, spamspamspam, specialroulette, superdice, surprise, switchtoheads, switchtotails, teamlist, texas, u, unix, unlock, uptime, vanhayes, wakespam, whoisshe, wikipedia, and yoda
02:27 <ghableska> #pushredbutton
02:27 <armabot> Don't push this button again!
02:27 <Vanhayes> lol
02:28 <Vanhayes> #help selfcleanalias
02:28 <armabot> Vanhayes: (selfcleanalias <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "alias add $1 echo $* [alias remove $1]".
02:28 <Vanhayes> #selfcleanalias
02:28 <armabot> Vanhayes: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
02:29 <Vanhayes> #vanhayes
02:29 <armabot> Vanhayes doesnt like it when Vanhayes says his name.
02:30 <McSpiddles> wrtlprnft, can the text color above the bike be set back to normal by a console setting? because when people use those fucked up white blocked colors they get in the way of my bike
02:31 <Vanhayes> i think wrtlprnft is asleep
02:31 <McSpiddles> he is
02:31 <McSpiddles> but he'll see it when he wakes up :p
02:32  * ghableska pokes wrtlprnft
02:33  * Vanhayes pokes ghableska
02:34 <Vanhayes> #poke
02:34 <armabot> I don't have a pointy stick...
02:34  * ghableska gets poked
02:34 <Vanhayes> #echo *me
02:34 <armabot> *me
02:34 <Vanhayes> damne
02:34 <Vanhayes> damn*
02:34 <ghableska> #ghableska
02:35 <Vanhayes> lol
02:35 <ghableska> :P
02:38 <McSpiddles> #echo "action lol"
02:38 <armabot> action lol
02:38 <McSpiddles> O_o
02:39 <ghableska> #echo echo 
02:39 <armabot> echo
02:39 <ghableska> heh
02:40 <ghableska> #echo #echo
02:40 <armabot> #echo
02:41 <McSpiddles> grrr
02:41 <Vanhayes> #echo #echo the
02:41 <armabot> #echo the
02:42 <McSpiddles> ....
02:42 <McSpiddles> ok so appearntly
02:42 <McSpiddles> my floppy drive isn't mounted
02:42 <McSpiddles> i try to mount it to get rid of that annoying icon
02:43 <McSpiddles> it says it can't find it
02:43 <McSpiddles> O_o
02:43 <McSpiddles> mount: can't find /dev/fd0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
02:44 <McSpiddles> O_o
02:44 <Vanhayes> #google Biggest island in canada
02:44 <armabot> Vanhayes: Search took 0.70 seconds: CanadaInfoLink is everything you wanted to know about Canada and ...: <http://www.canadainfolink.ca/chartnine.htm>; Wikipedia - Canada: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada>; List of Canadian islands by area - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_islands_by_area>; List of Canadian islands by area: Information (2 more messages)
02:47 <McSpiddles> canada has islands?
02:48 <Vanhayes> yes
02:48 <Vanhayes> #google baffin island
02:48 <armabot> Vanhayes: Search took 0.30 seconds: BaffinIsland.ca: Guide to Baffin Island , Nunavut: <http://www.baffinisland.ca/>; Baffin Island - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baffin_Island>; Lonely Planet | Theme Guides | Islands | Baffin Island , Canada: <http://www.lonelyplanet.com/theme/islands/islands_baffin.htm>; Baffin Island Photos: (2 more messages)
02:50 <madmax|pt> im amazed on how good skip plays
02:50 <madmax|pt> ... not
02:50 <McSpiddles> LOl
02:50 <McSpiddles> he's easily beaten
02:51 <McSpiddles> atleast i can using my "boring" but affective attack
02:51 <McSpiddles> :)
02:51  * ghableska sucks
02:51 <McSpiddles> just circle him filling in his gaps and he'll do the rest
02:51 <McSpiddles> lol
02:52 <McSpiddles> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_islands_by_area
02:52 <McSpiddles> O_o
02:52 <ghableska> he makes interesting patterns
02:53 <Vanhayes> well all I know is he isnt half as good as he says he is
02:54 <McSpiddles> agreed :p
02:54 <madmax|pt> the thing is, that when not on def i don't think he knows what he must do
02:54 <McSpiddles> also agreed
02:55 <McSpiddles> he used the winzone against me
03:16  * ghableska is bored
03:17  * Vanhayes *
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03:18 <ghableska> oops
03:18  * Vanhayes *
03:18 <Luke-Jr> ...
03:18 <Vanhayes> wb
03:19 <ghableska> ...
03:24 <Vanhayes> #list
03:24 <armabot> Vanhayes: Admin, Alias, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, Dict, Games, Google, Herald, Insult, Later, Math, Misc, News, Owner, Praise, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Time, Unix, User, Utilities, and Web
03:24 <Vanhayes> #list math
03:24 <armabot> Vanhayes: base, calc, convert, icalc, rpn, and units
03:28 <madmax|pt>   
03:28 <ghableska>  
03:28  * madmax|pt *
03:29 <ghableska> eugh
03:29  * Vanhayes ***************
03:29  * ghableska *
03:29 <ghableska> :P
03:32 <madmax|pt> who won?
03:32 <Vanhayes> who won what?
03:33 <madmax|pt> the thing
03:33 <Vanhayes> i see...
03:33 <madmax|pt> i see won the thing?
03:34 <ghableska> I got -40 points. :D
03:34 <Vanhayes> what was the highest score?
03:35 <ghableska> 67.
03:35 <Vanhayes> lol 100 points difference
03:35 <Vanhayes> that you high score for lowest score?
03:36 <ghableska> o_O
03:36 <madmax|pt> those scores are in what?
03:36 <ghableska> mbc server
03:37 <madmax|pt> heh
03:37 <madmax|pt> i pwn tron in sumo
03:38 <madmax|pt> its amazing
03:38 <madmax|pt> lol
03:38 <ghableska> lol
03:40 <Vanhayes> cya ghab
03:41 <ghableska> I'm not leaving IRC ;)
03:41 <Vanhayes> lol
03:41 <ghableska> :P
03:41 <madmax|pt> im going to bed
03:41 <madmax|pt> good night
03:41 <ghableska> cya
03:42 <Vanhayes> night madmax|pt
03:45 <Vanhayes> #shuffle g h a b v a n
03:45 <armabot> Vanhayes: b a h v n a g
03:46 <ghableska> o_O
03:46 <Vanhayes> lol that sounds nasty
03:46 <ghableska> it does?
03:46 <Vanhayes> Bahvnag
03:47 <ghableska> sounds like someone sneezing with too much phlegm in their throat
03:48 <ghableska> :P
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04:10 <Vanhayes> McSpiddles can you connect to shrunkland?
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04:11 <McSpiddles> Vanhayes, it's full
04:11 <Vanhayes> ya
04:12 <McSpiddles> plus i think i got banned for trying to join to much O_o
04:12 <Vanhayes> lol fonkay, pandamonium and kamakazi all got in
04:12 <Vanhayes> and now me :)
04:15 <Vanhayes> heh McSpiddles=cindy?
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04:17 <McSpiddles> no...
04:17 <McSpiddles> i was in fortress
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04:27 <Vanhayes> wb ghableska
04:27 <Your_mom_arma> hey
04:27 <ghableska> ty Vanhayes
04:27 <Vanhayes> hello Your_mom_arma
04:28 <ghableska> ...
04:28 <ghableska> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/5151612.stm?ls
04:28 <ghableska> that's just...
04:28 <McSpiddles> that's just...so Vanhayes 
04:30 <Your_mom_arma> creepy
04:30 <ghableska> I know
04:31  * ghableska is glad he had already had dinner
04:31 <Your_mom_arma> i'ld keep it like the guy though
04:31 <ghableska> sell it on ebay :P
04:31 <ghableska> probably make a fortune off it
04:31 <Your_mom_arma> wanna see something cool? (escorts you to jar with skull labeling)
04:31 <ghableska> ol
04:31 <ghableska> *lol
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04:43 <McSpiddles> you gotta be shitting me
04:43 <McSpiddles> O_o
04:43 <McSpiddles> they have 10-15 pages per math packet for the hard math shit
04:44 <McSpiddles> but for fractions they have a fuckin 32 page packet....
04:44 <McSpiddles> fractions = easy :/
05:00 <Luke-Jr> ...
05:01 <McSpiddles> they load a book down with the easy stuff
05:01 <McSpiddles> but only give you so much info on the hard stuff
05:01 <McSpiddles> that's gay
05:01 <McSpiddles> :/
05:01 <Luke-Jr> this is weird
05:01 <McSpiddles> ?
05:01 <Luke-Jr> I'm compiling and making an installer for Windows
05:01 <Luke-Jr> without using Windows
05:02 <McSpiddles> lo
05:02 <McSpiddles> lol
05:02 <McSpiddles> need more space on the server? O_o
05:02 <Luke-Jr> ?
05:03  * McSpiddles is thinking about upgrading to 10gigs of space
05:03 <Luke-Jr> o
05:03 <McSpiddles> or switching hosts....not sure
05:03 <Luke-Jr> did they ever get the vhost setup? =p
05:03 <McSpiddles> i doubt it
05:03 <McSpiddles> O_o
05:03 <McSpiddles> sec
05:03 <Luke-Jr> lol
05:04 <Luke-Jr> well I want to start my own company/contract work
05:04 <Luke-Jr> so if you want to switch hosts, let me get a server I can host you on =p
05:04 <McSpiddles> acid@server [/etc]# cat userdomains
05:04 <McSpiddles> www.fallin-angels.com: acid
05:04 <McSpiddles> nope :/
05:05 <McSpiddles> lol
05:05 <McSpiddles> as long as you got cpanel :p
05:05 <Luke-Jr> why? I thought you hated cpanel? =p
05:05 <McSpiddles> <insert sarcasm here>
05:06 <Luke-Jr> I supposed SSH only would be too bare?
05:06 <Luke-Jr> =p
05:06 <Luke-Jr> suppose*
05:06 <McSpiddles> mmm
05:06 <McSpiddles> ssh and ftp
05:06 <McSpiddles> i could live with that
05:07 <Luke-Jr> erm
05:07 <Luke-Jr> how about minus ftp?
05:07  * McSpiddles thinks about buying a $5 shell and putting a tron server on it O_o
05:07 <McSpiddles> um
05:07 <Luke-Jr> I don't like huge gaping security risks...
05:07 <McSpiddles> i can't seem to upload via ssh
05:07 <Luke-Jr> why not?
05:07 <McSpiddles> it doesn't like me
05:07 <Luke-Jr> ...
05:07 <Luke-Jr> example?
05:08 <McSpiddles> "local file not found"
05:08 <McSpiddles> "remote file not found"
05:08 <Luke-Jr> ...
05:08 <McSpiddles> i always get those to
05:08 <McSpiddles> :/
05:08  * Luke-Jr doesn't believe you =p
05:08 <Luke-Jr> here, I got an idea
05:08 <McSpiddles> lol
05:08 <Luke-Jr> how about I just host something on my local server gratis for now
05:08 <McSpiddles> or maybe that was ftp
05:08 <Luke-Jr> and we see how it works out =p
05:08 <McSpiddles> i forget
05:09 <McSpiddles> k
05:09 <McSpiddles> ohhhh
05:09 <McSpiddles> i know
05:09 <McSpiddles> i never tried ssh to upload
05:09 <Luke-Jr> lol
05:09 <McSpiddles> because i used to always use putty
05:10 <McSpiddles> and to upload a file it was "send /path/to/whatever"
05:10 <McSpiddles> and that's not in the terminal ssh
05:10 <McSpiddles> O_o
05:10 <Luke-Jr> ...
05:11 <McSpiddles> acid@server [~/public_html]# send
05:11 <McSpiddles> -jailshell: send: command not found
05:11 <McSpiddles> in putty "send" uploads a file
05:11 <McSpiddles> :p
05:11 <Luke-Jr> ...
05:11 <Luke-Jr> you know 'cp'?
05:12 <McSpiddles> oh
05:12 <Luke-Jr> well, change 'cp' to 'scp'
05:12 <Luke-Jr> and prefix a path with 'hostname:'
05:12 <Luke-Jr> so
05:13 <Luke-Jr> scp file.html hachi.dashjr.org:public_html/
05:17 <ghableska> 'night everyone
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06:20 <Lucifer_arma> What did Jeffrey Daumer say to Charles Manson?
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06:23 <Your_mom_arma> what?
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06:36 <Lucifer_arma> are you gonna eat that?
06:37 <McSpiddles> hmmm
06:38 <McSpiddles> #g three and three-fourths/one and two-thirds
06:38 <armabot> Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
06:38 <McSpiddles> bah
06:38  * McSpiddles wonders if arma can do fractions O_o
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> 15/4 * 3/5
06:40 <McSpiddles> #g 14/4 * 3/5
06:40 <armabot> ((14 / 4) * 3) / 5 = 2.1
06:41 <McSpiddles> nope
06:41 <McSpiddles> lol
06:41 <McSpiddles> well
06:41 <McSpiddles> that was close anyways
06:42 <McSpiddles> 2.2 is the answer i think
06:42 <McSpiddles> O_o
06:43 <McSpiddles> ah
06:43 <McSpiddles> no it's 4.3
06:45  * McSpiddles wishes k-calc did fractions
06:47 <Your_mom_arma> lol luci
06:59 <McSpiddles> argh
06:59 <McSpiddles> this math packet is making my head hurt
07:00 <McSpiddles> so many things they're trying to teach are oppiset of how i learned in school
07:03 <McSpiddles> lucifer don't you flip the right fraction to make a faction-devision problem multiplication?
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> umm, that's what I did a minute ago
07:03 <McSpiddles> bastards
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07:03 <Lucifer_arma> but yeah, you take the reciprocal of the fraaction on the bottom
07:03 <McSpiddles> htey're trying to say you don't flip it
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> well, you can cross-multiply it, but I always lose track of which is my denominator when I do that
07:04 <McSpiddles> which means by there grade book
07:04 <McSpiddles> i've already failed half this packet
07:04 <McSpiddles> gaaaah
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> besides, when you get to algebra it's easier to take the reciprocal :)
07:04 <McSpiddles> yea
07:04 <McSpiddles> but what i'm getting at is they say the oppisite :/
07:05 <McSpiddles> which means i either go back with whiteout and change my answers
07:05 <McSpiddles> or fail it :/
07:05  * Lucifer_arma notes that math should always be done in pencil :)
07:05 <McSpiddles> well
07:05 <McSpiddles> i never had to change my answers
07:05 <McSpiddles> i've always been good in math
07:05 <McSpiddles> and got good grades :P
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> what is the packet trying to teach you?  See, maybe they're drilling you on working with fractions in your head?
07:06 <McSpiddles> um
07:06 <McSpiddles> ok
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> in that case, taking the reciprocal is an extra step that only causes problems, so you do it differently :)
07:06 <McSpiddles> here's a example problem
07:06 <McSpiddles> 3/4 / 3
07:06 <McSpiddles> changes to
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> 1/12
07:07 <McSpiddles> 3/4 * 1/2
07:07 <McSpiddles> = 3/8
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> ?  where did the 1/2 come from?
07:07 <McSpiddles> that's what they say...
07:07 <McSpiddles> er
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> what do the directions say?
07:07 <McSpiddles> typo
07:07 <McSpiddles> 3/4 / 2
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> ahhh, wait a minute
07:07 <McSpiddles> changes to 3/4 * 1/2
07:07 <McSpiddles> = 3/8
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> ah, that's right
07:08 <McSpiddles> O_O
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> that's 3/4 divided by Two, right?
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> what's the reciprocal of Two?
07:08 <McSpiddles> 1/2
07:09 <Lucifer_arma> so to divide 3/4 by Two, you multiple 3/4 times 1/2, right?
07:09 <Lucifer_arma> then you go across, 3*1/4*2
07:09 <McSpiddles> and 4*2
07:09 <McSpiddles> then devide
07:09 <Lucifer_arma> well, 3/8 is the simplest form of that number
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> or something like taht
07:10 <McSpiddles> but the way my math teacher in school tought, you change 1/2 to 2/1 then multiply :/
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> then you were taught wrong then and are learning right now :)
07:10 <McSpiddles> gaaah
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> why do we have two deja_vu's?
07:11 <McSpiddles> time out?
07:15 <Your_mom_arma> Time in
07:17 <McSpiddles> omg
07:17 <McSpiddles> i went through this hole thing and the answers are in the back of the book
07:17 <McSpiddles> :|
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07:35 <McSpiddles> errr
07:35  * McSpiddles slaps gateway
07:35 <McSpiddles> the only procedure they have for this problem involves a calc. that does fractions :/
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08:40 <Vanhayes> #google fight "The Godfather" "The Godfather Part 2" "The Godfather Part 3"
08:40 <armabot> Vanhayes: The Godfather: 29600000, The Godfather Part 2: 8740000, The Godfather Part 3: 7560000
08:46 <Your_mom_arma> not really fair all godfather2 and 3 results are inbluded in the original results
08:46 <Your_mom_arma> blah
08:47 <Your_mom_arma> included
08:48 <wrtlprnft> McSpiddles: yes they can
08:48 <wrtlprnft> McSpiddles: look at NEWS to see which setting
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10:20 <wrtlprnft> Luke-Jr: ?
10:20 <wrtlprnft> 00:05 <Luke-Jr> wrtlprnft:
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13:05 <madmax|pt> #last
13:05 <armabot> madmax|pt: [03:21:06] <wrtlprnft> 00:05 <Luke-Jr> wrtlprnft:
13:05 <madmax|pt> lol
13:12 <Sakireth> lol
13:14 <wrtlprnft> 13:05 <armabot> madmax|pt: [03:21:06] <wrtlprnft> 00:05 <Luke-Jr> wrtlprnft:
13:14 <wrtlprnft> #last
13:14 <armabot> wrtlprnft: [06:15:04] <wrtlprnft> 13:05 <armabot> madmax|pt: [03:21:06] <wrtlprnft> 00:05 <Luke-Jr> wrtlprnft:
13:30 <Lucifer_arma> #last
13:30 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: [06:15:05] <wrtlprnft> #last
13:38 <[Xpert]DarkStar> guru3_: ping?
13:38 <McSpiddles> omg
13:38  * McSpiddles is waiting for my dogs to get attacked
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13:39 <[Xpert]DarkStar> McSpiddles: you can call me [Xpert]DarkStar 
13:39  * McSpiddles found a opossium playing dead on the porch
13:39 <McSpiddles> O_o
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13:54 <madmax|pt> opossium?
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14:57 <McSpiddles> madmax|pt possium?
14:57 <McSpiddles> sec
14:57 <McSpiddles> madmax|pt, http://www.possumrescue.com/  << that ugly ass thing
14:59 <McSpiddles> they got some sharp ass teeth,too O_o
15:08 <madmax|pt> ohhhh, they look cute
15:08 <McSpiddles> :|
15:08 <madmax|pt> lolol
15:08 <madmax|pt> lunch time
15:08 <McSpiddles> going to eat a possum ?
15:09 <madmax|pt> not really
15:09  * McSpiddles goes to install a windows manager
15:10 <McSpiddles> http://xwinman.org/
15:15 <McSpiddles> checking for XOpenDisplay in -lX11... no
15:15 <McSpiddles> configure: error: standard X11 libraries not found
15:15 <McSpiddles> riiiiiiiiiiiiiight
15:16 <SuPeRTaRD-bbl> lucifer around?
15:17 <Lucifer_arma> sorta, what's up?
15:20 <McSpiddles> O_o
15:21  * McSpiddles has 89 packages to install/upgrade
15:21 <McSpiddles> bah
15:21 <SuPeRTaRD-bbl> oh, i just thot i'd mention
15:22 <SuPeRTaRD-bbl> Hi,
15:22 <SuPeRTaRD-bbl> Would you want to be on, or know anyone local who would want to be on
15:22 <SuPeRTaRD-bbl> a modding panel
15:22 <SuPeRTaRD-bbl> at the conference in a couple weeks? This could include Armegatron and
15:22 <SuPeRTaRD-bbl> stuff like that.
15:22 <SuPeRTaRD-bbl> Thanks
15:22 <SuPeRTaRD-bbl> Michael
15:22 <SuPeRTaRD-bbl> a independant game editing conference..
15:22 <SuPeRTaRD-bbl> i might go but i'm not presenting
15:23 <joda_bot> SuPeRTaRD-bbl: where is that conference ? 
15:25 <SuPeRTaRD-bbl> in austin tx
15:41 <McSpiddles> wooooo
15:41 <McSpiddles> synaptic crashed xD
15:41 <McSpiddles> give me the most restricted computer on earth.....i'll find a way to break it,i seem to always do O_o
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16:34 <spidey> fluxbox's being a bitch :/
16:34 <spidey> blackbox works just fine though
16:34 <Luke-Jr> go with KDE =p
16:34 <spidey> i've got kde
16:34 <spidey> but
16:34 <spidey>  09:34:06 up 3 min,  2 users,  load average: 0.16, 0.28, 0.13
16:34 <spidey> my loads are much lower
16:34 <spidey> with blackbox :p
16:34 <Luke-Jr> of course
16:35 <spidey> and i've figured out how to use the terminal to start anything i need
16:35 <spidey> so i'll leave it this way :p
16:35 <Luke-Jr> Konsole has tabs tho!
16:35 <Luke-Jr> and you'll be needing the KDE libs anyhow for Konqueror
16:35 <spidey> lol
16:35 <spidey> ......
16:36 <Luke-Jr> .....
16:37 <Luke-Jr> Unless you really don't care for tabs and just want to use Links to save memory
16:37 <joda_bot> You can try code::blocks ;)
16:37 <Luke-Jr> isn't that windoze-only?
16:37 <joda_bot> ups, wrong app anyway ;)
16:37 <spidey> lol
16:37 <joda_bot> code::blocks is an alternative to kdeveloper ;)
16:37 <joda_bot> firefox should work just fine ;)
16:37 <Luke-Jr> um
16:38 <Luke-Jr> FireFox may be the best for Windows, but it's second-class at best on *nix
16:38 <joda_bot> Luke-Jr: there is not that much difference between windows and linux firefox
16:38  * spidey uses firefox on both
16:38 <joda_bot> and I really like to have a similiar interface across platforms
16:39 <joda_bot> + extentions for adblocking if you can accept the slower page loading
16:40 <spidey> whoa
16:40 <spidey> i lost my gaim 
16:40 <Luke-Jr> and it'll use more RAM/CPU than KDE would
16:40 <Luke-Jr> FireFox doesn't even support text-shadow :(
16:40 <spidey> O_o
16:40 <Luke-Jr> which is CSS 2
16:40 <Luke-Jr> eww, gaaim
16:40 <Luke-Jr> joda_bot: that's solved by using only *nix platforms
16:40  * spidey goes to find blackbox plugins
16:41 <Luke-Jr> spidey: use Psi
16:41 <spidey> ?
16:41 <Luke-Jr> for IM
16:41 <joda_bot> Luke-Jr: Stick with KDE ... ever looked at all the nice background processes ? ;)
16:41 <Luke-Jr> joda_bot: sure
16:41  * spidey has 51 processes
16:42 <spidey> kde give me over 70
16:42 <Luke-Jr> OS: GNU/Linux 2.6.17-gentoo/x86_64 - CPU: 1 x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ (2202.874 MHz) - Processes: 299 - Uptime: 3d 17h 29m - Users: 97 - Load Average: 13.92 - Memory Usage: 2512MB/1002MB (250%)
16:42 <Luke-Jr> nothin wrong wth a few proceesses =p
16:42 <spidey> not when you got 3gigs of ram
16:42 <spidey> i only got 376mb
16:42 <Luke-Jr> shared libraries....
16:42 <Luke-Jr> I onyl got 1 GB
16:43 <Luke-Jr> 376 is a bit low tho o.o
16:43 <spidey> i guess you're using some of your swap then?
16:43 <Luke-Jr> plenty
16:43 <Luke-Jr> but that's because I have
16:43 <spidey> 299 processes O_o
16:43 <Luke-Jr> 15 virtual desktops
16:43 <spidey> omg
16:43 <Luke-Jr> and however many konsoles w/ 5 or so tabs each
16:44  * spidey goes to edit blackbox
16:44 <Luke-Jr> and like I said, you'll need KDE running enough for Konqueror anyway
16:44 <Luke-Jr> or use an inferior FireFox which eats yet more RAM
16:44 <Luke-Jr> or simply deal with Links
16:44  * spidey still wonders where his gaim went O_o
16:45 <Luke-Jr> not to mention Gaim and it's RAM eating
16:45 <spidey> gaim doesn't eat my ram
16:45 <spidey> not on windows or linux
16:45 <Luke-Jr> it certainly eats mine
16:45 <Luke-Jr> compared to Psi anyhow
16:48 <Luke-Jr> Psi's rw memory usage is just under 30 K
16:48 <spidey> who needs konqueror?
16:48 <spidey> you can use file managers on blackbox to
16:48 <Luke-Jr> pmap $(pidof gaim) -x | grep rw | cut -b 17-24 | while read x; do echo $x +f; done | dc
16:48 <spidey> there's rox and a few others
16:48 <Luke-Jr> Konqueror as a web browser
16:48 <spidey> bah
16:48 <spidey> i use firefox,so i don't need it
16:48 <Luke-Jr> ok, let me rephrase
16:49 <Luke-Jr> Konqueror as the best web browser in existence today
16:49 <spidey> lie
16:49 <Luke-Jr> FireFox uses more RAM than KDE does
16:49 <spidey> lies
16:49 <Luke-Jr> nope
16:49 <Luke-Jr> FireFox is an inferior browser
16:49 <Luke-Jr> its *only* strengths are plugins and Win compatiblity
16:50 <spidey> i like it,so i'll use it :)
16:50 <Luke-Jr> and in the case of plugins, KDE 4 should take care of that
16:50 <spidey> besides
16:50 <spidey> i only run things when i need them
16:50 <Luke-Jr> pmap $(pidof mozilla-firefox) -x | grep rw | cut -b 17-24 | while read x; do echo $x +f; done | dc
16:50 <spidey> so firefox does fine :)
16:51 <Luke-Jr> so how much rw memorry does Gaim use anyhow?
16:51 <spidey> sec
16:53 <spidey> erm
16:54 <spidey> O_o
16:54 <spidey> gaim isn't even running
16:54 <Luke-Jr> ...
16:54 <spidey> heh
16:54 <spidey> when you minimize something
16:55 <spidey> it closes
16:55 <Luke-Jr> that's messed up
16:55 <Luke-Jr> use KDE
16:55 <spidey> no
16:55 <spidey> it's using 1.4%
16:55 <Luke-Jr> so you get 98.6% left
16:55 <Luke-Jr> big deal =p
16:55 <spidey> lol
16:55 <spidey> well
16:55 <spidey> blackbox uses 1.1%
16:55 <spidey> what does kde use? :)
16:56 <Luke-Jr> of?
16:56 <spidey> of how much ram you got
16:56 <Luke-Jr> no idea
16:56 <Luke-Jr> KDE has multiple processes
16:56 <Luke-Jr> that's hard to count RAM use
16:57 <spidey> so i'll stick with blackbox :
16:57 <spidey> :p
16:57 <Luke-Jr> unless you count everything multiple times
16:57 <Luke-Jr> because every KDE process uses Qt
16:57 <Luke-Jr> but Qt is only in RAM once
16:57 <Luke-Jr> for all em
16:58 <spidey> mmm
16:58 <spidey> tgz compresses
16:58 <Luke-Jr> remember, this isn't Windows =p
16:58 <Luke-Jr> erm
16:58 <spidey> so what uncompresses :/
16:59 <Luke-Jr> tgz is a formats
16:59 <Luke-Jr> tar archives directories
17:00 <Luke-Jr> tar cjvp <directory> | bzip2 > archive.tbz2
17:00 <Luke-Jr> erm
17:00 <Luke-Jr> tar cvp <directory> | bzip2 > archive.tbz2
17:00 <Luke-Jr> or, for shortcut
17:00 <Luke-Jr> tar cjvpf archive.tbz2 <directory>
17:00 <Luke-Jr> the 'j' means tar itself will pipe it thru bzip2
17:00 <Luke-Jr> the 'f' means tar writes output to a file
17:00 <spidey> tar -xf archive.tar
17:00 <spidey> that's what i want
17:01 <Luke-Jr> except you're missing 'vp' =p
17:01 <spidey> didn't need it
17:01 <Luke-Jr> 'v' means to list files as they're added/extraced
17:01 <spidey> done extracted :p
17:01 <Luke-Jr> 'p' means to keep permissions
17:01 <Luke-Jr> which is usually needed
17:01 <Luke-Jr> eg, to keep executables executable
17:02 <Luke-Jr> so 'tar xvpf archive.tar'
17:02 <Luke-Jr> (the dash is optional)
17:02 <spidey> LOL
17:02 <spidey> i made a --help.tgz
17:02 <spidey> now i can't remove it
17:02 <spidey> O_o
17:02 <Luke-Jr> ...
17:02 <Luke-Jr> rm -- --help.tgz
17:03 <spidey> O_o
17:03 <spidey> mm
17:03 <Luke-Jr> 'tar xjvpf archive.tbz2' will decompress and extract at the same time ;)
17:03 <Luke-Jr> use 'z' instead  of 'j' if it's  gzip and  not bzip2
17:04 <spidey> erm
17:04 <spidey> so i can't rmdir unless it's empty?
17:04 <spidey> O_o
17:04 <Luke-Jr> right
17:04 <spidey> gah
17:04 <Luke-Jr> can't rmdir unless it's empty in Win either
17:05 <spidey> can too
17:05 <Luke-Jr> if you're sure you don't need anything from that dir, rm -r works
17:05 <Luke-Jr> nope
17:05 <Luke-Jr> you'd need deltree
17:05 <spidey> that's back from win98
17:05 <spidey> deltree isn't in winxp anymore
17:05 <Luke-Jr> ...
17:05 <Luke-Jr> anyway, rm -r works
17:05 <Luke-Jr> just be careful with it
17:06 <spidey> "deltree" is not recognized as a internal or external command,operable program or batch file
17:06 <spidey> :p
17:06 <Luke-Jr> btw
17:06 <Luke-Jr> 'll' is a nice shortcut for 'ls -l'
17:07 <spidey> la works
17:07 <Luke-Jr> it does?
17:07 <spidey> yea
17:07 <Luke-Jr> not by default =p
17:07 <spidey> it's a quicker shortcut :p
17:07 <spidey> does for me
17:07 <spidey> i did a typo and it listed like ls -l does
17:07 <Luke-Jr> hachi luke-jr # la
17:07 <Luke-Jr> bash: la: command not found
17:07 <Luke-Jr> and hachi was just installed a few weeks ago
17:07 <spidey> i can't copy/paste from xterm or i'd show ya
17:08 <Luke-Jr> sure you can
17:08 <Luke-Jr> just select it
17:08 <Luke-Jr> and middle click on IRC
17:08 <Luke-Jr> in the text area
17:08 <spidey> spidey@2[Desktop]$ la
17:08 <spidey> total 3984
17:08 <spidey> drwxr-xr-x   3 spidey users    4096 2006-07-06 10:02 .
17:08 <spidey> drwxr-xr-x  35 spidey users    4096 2006-07-06 09:54 ..
17:08 <spidey> -rw-r--r--   1 spidey users  650400 2006-07-06 08:12 blackbox-0.70.1.tar.gz
17:08 <spidey> oh 
17:08 <Luke-Jr> weird
17:08 <Luke-Jr> I prefer 'ls -lh' myself
17:08 <spidey> spidey@2[Desktop]$ rmdir -r ROX-All-0.6/
17:08 <spidey> rmdir: invalid option -- r
17:08 <spidey> Try `rmdir --help' for more information
17:08 <spidey> O_o
17:09 <spidey> ih
17:09 <spidey> oh*
17:09 <spidey> nvm
17:09 <spidey> lol
17:14 <spidey> .....
17:14 <spidey> i'm getting permission denied trying to run something as root
17:14 <spidey> :/
17:15 <spidey> root@2[Debian]# ./zeroinstall-injector_0.19-1_all.deb
17:15 <spidey> -su: ./zeroinstall-injector_0.19-1_all.deb: Permission denied
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17:22 <[NP]Tangent> good morning guys
17:22 <[NP]Tangent> when I get back from the dentist
17:22 <[NP]Tangent> I shall kick some ass on swampland :>
17:24 <Luke-Jr> spidey: it's not executable
17:24 <spidey> yar
17:24 <spidey> i got it
17:24 <spidey> kinda
17:24 <spidey> spidey@2[Other]$ python setup.py install        
17:24 <spidey> running install
17:24 <spidey> error: invalid Python installation: unable to open /usr/lib/python2.3/config/Makefile (No such file or directory)
17:25 <spidey> where's my makefile O_o
17:25 <[NP]Tangent> dpkg -i ./zeroisntall-whatever
17:25 <[NP]Tangent> I think that's what you do
17:25 <[NP]Tangent> heh
17:25 <Luke-Jr> spidey: you're using 'p' when you untar stuff, right?
17:25 <spidey> ya
17:25 <Luke-Jr> um
17:25 <spidey> spidey@2[Other]$ tar xjvpf ROX-All-0.6.tgz
17:25 <Luke-Jr> you ran setup.py w/o install?
17:26 <spidey> actually
17:26 <spidey> j =z
17:26 <spidey> yes
17:26 <Luke-Jr> what are you trying to install anyhow?
17:26 <spidey> a file manager
17:26 <Luke-Jr> such as?
17:26 <spidey> rox
17:27 <Luke-Jr> 'emerge rox'
17:27 <spidey> ?
17:27 <Luke-Jr> what OS? =p
17:27 <spidey> mepis
17:27 <Luke-Jr> o
17:27 <Luke-Jr> good luck :)
17:27 <spidey> lol
17:28 <Luke-Jr> you're best bet is finding a binary package
17:28 <Luke-Jr> maybe 'apt-get install rox'
17:29 <spidey> heh
17:29 <spidey> it's not in the repository
17:29 <spidey> installing python 2.4
17:29  * spidey needs to update alot of stuff O_o
17:34 <spidey> mepis has a experimental running a ubuntu kernal
17:38 <spidey> meh got
17:38 <spidey> it
17:38 <spidey> apt-get remove python2.3 
17:38 <spidey> then install 2.4
17:41 <Luke-Jr> ...
17:41 <Luke-Jr> mepis sounds annoyinh
17:41 <Luke-Jr> g
17:42 <spidey> python install works now O_o
17:44 <spidey> mm
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17:51 -!- spidey is now known as spidey|Testing
17:51 <spidey|Testing> bbl,gotta go test O_o
17:51 <ghableska> have fun
18:01 <spidey|Testing> holy shit
18:01 <ghableska> ?
18:01 <spidey|Testing> i haven't touched my math packets since October last year
18:01 <ghableska> o_O
18:01 <spidey|Testing> and i'm supposed to do 4 pages a day
18:01 <ghableska> :O
18:01 <spidey|Testing> anyways
18:01 <spidey|Testing> i just made fake logs
18:01 <spidey|Testing> lol
18:02 <spidey|Testing> bbl
18:02 <ghableska> lol
18:33 <Sakireth> ARGH!
18:36 <ghableska> o.0
18:36 <guru3> can anyone reach http://results.ibo.org ?
18:36 <ghableska> nope
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18:47 <Brooky> Hi all
18:47 <ghableska> hey
19:23 <Lucifer_arma> SuPeRTaRD-bbl: sorry, I can only do it if it's paid right now.  :(  I'm in the middle of calc 2, very busy.
19:23 <guru3> the good news is i passed my exams
19:24 <guru3> the bad news is my parents will kill me anyway
19:26 <guru3> i'd be honored if you all would attend my funeral :(
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19:39 <Lucifer_arma> why are they going to kill you anyway?
19:39 -!- Vanhayes [n=lamb--ch@stjhnbsu84w-156034178101.nb.aliant.net] has joined #armagetron
19:39 <Lucifer_arma> and did you ask them about sending your body to me?  I've got an awesome new marinade....
19:39 <ghableska> hi Vanhayes
19:39 <Vanhayes> hey ghableska
19:42 <Brooky> guru why will they kill you?
19:42 <Brooky> so that means your coming to uni in england then?
19:44 <Lucifer_arma> he probably got a bunch of 99s
19:45 <Brooky> what are 99s?
19:45 <guru3> not even close lucifer :/
19:45 <guru3> i get well worse than predicted grades
19:46 <guru3> which means odds are i won't be going where i want to go for university
19:46 <Brooky> oh
19:46 <guru3> in terms for lucifer, i got a bunch of B-/C+s
19:46 <guru3> in terms for Brooky 
19:46 <Brooky> still england though?
19:46 <guru3> i got like... BBC
19:46 <Lucifer_arma> how the fuck did that happen?
19:46  * Lucifer_arma kills guru3 
19:46 <Brooky> Ok
19:47 <guru3> beats me lucifer
19:47 <guru3> beats me
19:47 <guru3> for some reason i did the worse in english
19:47 <Lucifer_arma> were you tripping on acid?
19:47 <guru3> which is ironic
19:47 <Lucifer_arma> was it graded by a swede?
19:47 <guru3> considering that's the class whose teacher rated me the highest
19:47 <guru3> no it was graded internationally
19:47 <guru3> because i did the IB...
19:48 <guru3> point is my grades aren't fantastic :(
19:48 <Lucifer_arma> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5154396.stm  <--- great, we spend billions of dollars so these guys can go into orbit and photograph themselves
19:50 <guru3> better than spending billions to have it go up in a big ball of flame
19:51 <Brooky> lmao
19:52 <Brooky> they are still good enough
19:52 <Brooky> i know people who have gone to sheffield with worse than that
19:52 <Brooky> trust me
19:52 <guru3> it's pretty well below what the requested tho :/
19:52 <Brooky> oh
19:52 <Lucifer_arma> does anybody else get the picture of nasa as this tired old dog just barely making it over the fence, and any day now he'll go to jump the fence and bash his head instead?
19:52 <Brooky> what did they ask you to get?
19:53 <guru3> i got asked for 6 5 5 and 33 points overall
19:53 <guru3> i got
19:53 <guru3> * 6 6 5
19:53 <guru3> i got 6 5 5 and 31
19:53 <guru3> the thing is that those 6/5s had to be in certain subjects
19:53 <Lucifer_arma> that's not terrible, are there test scores along with it?
19:53 <Lucifer_arma> and I assume you'll be compared to other applicants?
19:53 <guru3> yes
19:54 <guru3> i needed a 6 in math, physics, and a 5 in chemistry
19:54 <guru3> i got a 5 in math, 6 in physics, 5 in chemistry
19:54 <guru3> but i'm two overall points short
19:54 <guru3> (invidual exam grades are added up for the total # of points)
19:54 <Brooky> i think they will let you
19:54 <Lucifer_arma> you're in striking distance
19:54 <guru3> should i like email them you recon?
19:55 <Lucifer_arma> those university creeps ask for the moon and are happy if you just give them a big chunk of cheese
19:55 <Lucifer_arma> you should go down there and drop your transcript on the lady's desk and say "Well, it's not quite what you asked for, but it's better than any 3 Americans"
19:55 <Brooky> lmfao
19:55 <guru3> :/
19:55 <Brooky> why would they come to england?
19:56 <Lucifer_arma> so they can participate in unmanned space flight?
19:56 <Brooky> i dont have a clue
19:56  * Lucifer_arma takes Brooky's point, apparently only artsy-fartsy types go from the US to the UK for university
19:57 <Lucifer_arma> persistance and perseverance are what you need to show now, guru3.  Make up the extra points with guts.
19:57 <Lucifer_arma> even a redcoat has gotta like that
19:58 <guru3> haha
19:58 <Brooky> i dont they will be fussy
19:58 <guru3> i'll email them i think
19:58 <Lucifer_arma> well, if you send them a "I'm sorry, I suck, can I please still go, please plase please?" they'll say "get a spine"
19:58 <guru3> i was thinking along the lines
19:58 <guru3> of
19:59 <guru3> 'according to my provisional grades i'm slightly off from what you asked for. what do you have to say about it?"
19:59 <Brooky> why were they provisional grades
19:59 <Brooky> ?
19:59 <guru3> they don't finalize my exam grades
19:59 <guru3> for a couple of weeks
20:00 <guru3> pending checks and balances in the system
20:00 <Brooky> okk
20:00 <Brooky> maybe they might get remarked
20:00 <Lucifer_arma> well, as long as you're not whining or blatantly ass-kissing, otherwise I don't know enough to proofread anything.
20:00 <guru3> if i'm lucky
20:00 <Brooky> they do that over here all the time
20:00 <Brooky> good luck anyway
20:00 <guru3> thnx
20:00 <Brooky> im waiting for my GCSE results
20:00  * guru3 feels slightly more cheerful
20:01 <Brooky> i hope i have done as good as my mocks
20:02 <guru3> i think i actually did worse than my mocks
20:02 <Vanhayes> what is a mock?
20:02 <guru3> practice exam
20:03 <Brooky> practise
20:03 <Brooky> lucifer
20:03 <Brooky> you know when you said "Well, it's not quite what you asked for, but it's better than any 3 Americans"
20:03 <Brooky> Guru is american
20:03 <Lucifer_arma> so am I
20:04 <Brooky> ok
20:04 <Brooky> dont you live in germany?
20:04 <Lucifer_arma> nope, Texas
20:04 <guru3> yeee haaaaa
20:04 <Lucifer_arma> I even wear a cowboy hat
20:04 <Brooky> oh, sorry.
20:04 <Brooky> lol
20:04 <Brooky> nice!
20:04 <Lucifer_arma> have a truck, but I don't drive it much
20:04 <Brooky> cool
20:04 <Brooky> pickup?
20:04 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, 71 chevy half-ton
20:05 <Brooky> nice1
20:05 <guru3> hrhr
20:05 <Lucifer_arma> 307 engine with 3 in the tree
20:05 <Brooky> how long have you had it?
20:05 <Lucifer_arma> few years.  It's been in the family since '72
20:05 <Brooky> ok
20:05 <Lucifer_arma> I've had it since 2000
20:06 <Brooky> cool
20:08 <Lucifer_arma> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/5155448.stm?ls   <--- just when you thought americans were uptight
20:09 <ghableska> o.0
20:09 <guru3> Oo
20:10 <Lucifer_arma> am I the only one who's noticed a strong resemblance between our own phillippe and pauly shore?
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20:16 <Luke-Jr> z-man-home: does respawning work with 0.2.7?
20:17 <Luke-Jr> as a client
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20:24 <Lucifer_arma> Luke-Jr: what's the point of the resource thread you started?  You ripped up my post without answering that question
20:25 <madmax|pt> anyone here ever used bitlbee?
20:26 <guru3> yes
20:26 <madmax|pt> through xinetd ?
20:27 <guru3> can't remember
20:28 <madmax|pt> i can't put this thing to work :|
20:30 <madmax|pt> do you remember if the line with 'ircd' (and the port) was needed on /etc/services?
20:30 <guru3> i think i have a regular init script for it
20:33 <Lucifer_arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=71311#71311   :)
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21:13 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer_arma: the point of the thread was to get release people to ensure the release only contains official resources and to either remove others or add them to the repository
21:47 -!- spidey|Testing is now known as spidey
21:47 <spidey> goddamn it
21:47 <spidey> them stupid mother fuckers :/
21:48 <spidey> i had to retake 2 tests 4! times
21:48 <spidey> because the answer keys was fuckin wrong
21:49 <Brooky> lol
21:50 <Brooky> what tests???
21:50 <spidey> math
21:50 <spidey> i had the right answers
21:50 <spidey> they had the wrong
21:50 <spidey> so i took 2 tests 4 times
21:50 <spidey> untill i started bitching 
21:50 <spidey> cause i used a calcutlator on the last set
21:50 <spidey> so i knew they wasn't wrong
21:52 -!- spidey [n=spidey@68-119-125-64.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
21:58 <[NP]Tangent> spidey must hate his school
22:13 <Vanhayes> #shuffle v a n h a y e s
22:14 <armabot> Vanhayes: e y a s v n h a
22:14 <Vanhayes> #shuffle v a n  h a y e s
22:14 <armabot> Vanhayes: a v s a e y n h
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22:22 <spidey> man
22:22 <spidey> i lost my xchat client
22:22 <spidey> :/
22:22 <Vanhayes> how could you lose it?
22:22 <spidey> well
22:22 <spidey> i restarted blackbox and boom
22:22 <spidey> it's gone
22:23 <spidey> not in /usr/bin anymore
22:23 <spidey> :/
22:23 <spidey> well...locate says it is
22:23 <spidey> but it's not,lol
22:24 <Vanhayes> so what are you using right now?
22:24 <spidey> gaim
22:24 <spidey> think i'ma install bitch-x
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22:29 <Luke-Jr> spidey: locate uses a database
22:29 <spidey> yea
22:30 <Vanhayes> I tried to get bitch x for windows but it didnt work
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22:30 <spidey> they have bitchx for windows?
22:31 <Vanhayes> yes
22:31 <spidey> O_o
22:31 <Vanhayes> it says it is for windows anyway
22:32 <spidey> was it source?
22:32 <spidey> or a .exe?
22:32 <Vanhayes> .exe
22:32 <madmax|pt> its for windows!?
22:32 <madmax|pt> o_O
22:33 -!- spidey [n=spidey@68-119-125-64.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
22:33 <Vanhayes> .exe and .zip too i think
22:34 <madmax|pt> ah... there is for windows, but through cygwin
22:35 <Vanhayes> that would explain why it doesnt work for me
22:37 <Sakireth> I.
22:37 <Sakireth> Am.
22:37 <Sakireth> Bored.
22:38 <Vanhayes> Thanks.
22:38 <Vanhayes> for.
22:38 <Vanhayes> sharing.
22:38 <Sakireth> You're.
22:38 <Sakireth> Very.
22:38 <Sakireth> Welcome.
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22:40 <spidey> i broke my xserver
22:40 <spidey> heh
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22:44  * spidey attempts to fuck with system files
22:44 <spidey> O_o
22:45 <madmax|pt> holy ...
22:46 <joda_bot> #notes
22:46 <armabot> joda_bot: I currently have notes waiting for $randomnick, GodTodd, Lucifer_arma_, Luke-Jr, nemo*, phil, someone, and SuPeRTaRD.
22:47 <Luke-Jr> ...
22:47 <Luke-Jr> spidey: ...
22:47 <spidey> i'm bored
22:47 <spidey> so i'ma see what i can break
22:47 <Luke-Jr> spidey: move your site? =p
22:47 <spidey> no
22:49 <Sakireth> #notes
22:49 <armabot> Sakireth: I currently have notes waiting for $randomnick, GodTodd, Lucifer_arma_, Luke-Jr, nemo*, phil, someone, and SuPeRTaRD.
22:51 <joda_bot> Sakireth: do it again ;)
22:53 <Vanhayes> #note
22:53 <Vanhayes> #notes
22:53 <armabot> Vanhayes: I currently have notes waiting for $randomnick, GodTodd, Lucifer_arma_, Luke-Jr, nemo*, phil, Saki*, Sakireth, someone, and SuPeRTaRD.
22:53 <Sakireth> #note
22:53 <Sakireth> ah.. :P
22:54 <joda_bot> #m Vanh* this is an example
22:54 <armabot> joda_bot: The operation succeeded.
22:54 <Vanhayes> #notes
22:54 <armabot> Vanhayes: I currently have notes waiting for $randomnick, GodTodd, Lucifer_arma_, Luke-Jr, nemo*, phil, someone, SuPeRTaRD, and Vanh*.
22:55 <Vanhayes> #notes vanh*
22:55 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: I have no notes for that nick.
22:55 <Vanhayes> #notes Vanh*
22:55 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: I have no notes for that nick.
22:55 <Vanhayes> #notes
22:55 <armabot> Vanhayes: I currently have notes waiting for $randomnick, GodTodd, Lucifer_arma_, Luke-Jr, nemo*, phil, someone, and SuPeRTaRD.
22:55 <Vanhayes> hmm
22:58 <joda_bot> Vanhayes: the bot messaged you my message privately
22:58 <joda_bot> there should be a private message from the bot to you , once he sees you talking
22:59 <Sakireth> !notes Sakireth
22:59 <Sakireth> #notes Sakireth
22:59 <armabot> Sakireth: Error: I have no notes for that nick.
22:59 <Vanhayes> heh msg s used to popup with my ld client, I didnt even notice it
22:59 <Sakireth> #Eat crap
22:59 <Vanhayes> old*
23:01 <Sakireth> #notes armabot 
23:01 <armabot> Sakireth: Error: I have no notes for that nick.
23:01 <Sakireth> #kick armabot 
23:01 <armabot> Sakireth: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
23:01 <Vanhayes> #m Sakireth <Sakireth> #Eat crap
23:01 <armabot> Vanhayes: The operation succeeded.
23:01 <Vanhayes> like that
23:01 <Sakireth> ...
23:01 <Sakireth> what does that do?
23:01 <Sakireth> #whoami
23:01 <armabot> Sakireth: I don't recognize you.
23:02 <Sakireth> #identify
23:02 <armabot> Sakireth: Error: That operation cannot be done in a channel.
23:02 <Vanhayes> private msg from armabot
23:02 <Sakireth> ah
23:02 <Sakireth> #m Vanhayes This is a note i think..
23:02 <armabot> Sakireth: The operation succeeded.
23:02 <spidey> yay
23:02 <Sakireth> #notes Vanhayes
23:02 <armabot> Sakireth: Sent just now: <Sakireth> This is a note i think..
23:02 <spidey> i think i broke gaim
23:02 <spidey> O_o
23:02 <Sakireth> We all did.
23:02 <Sakireth> Gaim bug.
23:02 <spidey> no
23:02 <Sakireth> #m armabot i have a note! YAY!
23:02 <armabot> Sakireth: Error: I can't send notes to myself.
23:02 <Vanhayes> test
23:02 <Sakireth> dang.
23:03 <spidey> i got bored so i started messing with things
23:03 <spidey> O_o
23:03 <Vanhayes> lol
23:03 <Sakireth> #m armabot unknown this is a test
23:03 <armabot> Sakireth: Error: I can't send notes to myself.
23:03 <Sakireth> #m unknown this is a test
23:03 <armabot> Sakireth: The operation succeeded.
23:03 <spidey> #whois unkown
23:03 <Vanhayes> try $randomnick
23:03 <Sakireth> #m $randomnick eat crap
23:03 <armabot> Sakireth: The operation succeeded.
23:03 <spidey> * End of /MOTD command.
23:03 <spidey> * [unknown] (n=unknown@cp210686-b.roemd1.lb.home.nl): unknown
23:03 <spidey> * [unknown] irc.freenode.net :http://freenode.net/
23:03 <spidey> * [unknown] is identified to services 
23:03 <spidey> * [unknown] End of WHOIS list.
23:03 <Vanhayes> sd
23:03 <spidey> lol
23:03 <Vanhayes> not me
23:03 <Sakireth> #notes $randomnick
23:03 <armabot> Sakireth: Sent 3 weeks, 5 days, 19 hours, and 44 minutes ago: <McSpiddles> enjoy the spam, Sent 3 weeks, 5 days, 19 hours, and 43 minutes ago: <Vanhayes> enjoy the spam, Sent 3 weeks, 5 days, 17 hours, and 57 minutes ago: <Vanhayes> enjoy the spam, Sent 6 days and 18 hours ago: <Vanhayes> enjoy the spam, and Sent just now: <Sakireth> eat crap
23:03 <spidey> some guy got your message from armabot
23:03 <Sakireth> lol
23:04 <Sakireth> #m spidey You're a naughty spider, aren't ya
23:04 <armabot> Sakireth: The operation succeeded.
23:04 <Sakireth> ?
23:04 <spidey> :|
23:04 <Sakireth> xD
23:04 <spidey> know what
23:04 <Sakireth> #m Nickserv drop
23:04 <armabot> Sakireth: The operation succeeded.
23:04 <spidey> i got something for you :)
23:04 <Sakireth> ..
23:04 <Sakireth> that's an exploit
23:04 <Sakireth> what?
23:04 <Sakireth> :O
23:05 <Sakireth> that's just sick..
23:05 <Sakireth> ... really
23:05 <Sakireth> if you could.. just do that to make it drop nickserv
23:05 <Sakireth> lol
23:05 <Sakireth> what have you got for me?
23:05 <Vanhayes> #whoami
23:05 <armabot> Vanhayes: I don't recognize you.
23:05  * Sakireth expects to be banned
23:05 <Sakireth> or kicked
23:05 <Sakireth> and i deserve it.
23:05 <Sakireth> for i am sleepy
23:05 <Sakireth> and angry
23:05 <Sakireth> and weird
23:05 <madmax|pt> ...
23:05 <Vanhayes> #whoami
23:05 <armabot> Vanhayes: Vanhayes
23:06 <Sakireth> at least this hour.
23:06 <spidey> :)
23:06 <spidey> check you messages
23:06 <spidey> lol
23:06 <spidey> ......
23:06 <Sakireth> #register Sakireth memoriesunknown
23:06 <Vanhayes> #notes
23:06 <armabot> Sakireth: Error: That operation cannot be done in a channel.
23:06  * spidey goes to tron
23:06 <armabot> Vanhayes: I currently have notes waiting for $randomnick, GodTodd, Lucifer_arma_, Luke-Jr, nemo*, Nickserv, phil, someone, SuPeRTaRD, and unknown.
23:06 <Sakireth> #notes Sakireth
23:06 <armabot> Sakireth: Error: I have no notes for that nick.
23:06 <Vanhayes> #seen unknown
23:06 <armabot> Vanhayes: I have not seen unknown.
23:06 <joda_bot> #notes
23:06 <armabot> joda_bot: I currently have notes waiting for $randomnick, ar*, GodTodd, Lucifer_arma_, Luke-Jr, nemo*, Nickserv, phil, someone, SuPeRTaRD, and unknown.
23:06 <Sakireth> #m nickserv register memoriesunknown
23:06 <armabot> Sakireth: The operation succeeded.
23:06 <joda_bot> #notes
23:06 <armabot> joda_bot: I currently have notes waiting for $randomnick, ar*, GodTodd, Lucifer_arma_, Luke-Jr, nemo*, Nickserv, phil, someone, SuPeRTaRD, and unknown.
23:07 <Sakireth> #m nickserv help
23:07 <armabot> Sakireth: The operation succeeded.
23:07 <Vanhayes> #notes nickserv
23:07 <armabot> Vanhayes: Sent 2 minutes ago: <Sakireth> drop, Sent just now: <Sakireth> register memoriesunknown, and Sent just now: <Sakireth> help
23:07 <joda_bot> #notes ar*
23:07 <armabot> joda_bot: Sent just now: <joda_bot> test and Sent just now: <joda_bot> #m joda* test
23:07 <Sakireth> #m nickserv /quit
23:07 <armabot> Sakireth: The operation succeeded.
23:07 <Vanhayes> #notes nickserv
23:07 <armabot> Vanhayes: Sent 2 minutes ago: <Sakireth> drop, Sent just now: <Sakireth> register memoriesunknown, Sent just now: <Sakireth> help, and Sent just now: <Sakireth> /quit
23:07 <Vanhayes> heh
23:07 <Sakireth> heh.
23:07 <Sakireth> #m operserv shutdown
23:07 <armabot> Sakireth: The operation succeeded.
23:07 <Vanhayes> #dotdotdot
23:07 <Sakireth> Nah
23:07 <armabot> Vanhayes: [16:08:00] <Vanhayes> heh, [16:06:43] <spidey> lol, [16:06:19] <madmax|pt> ..., [16:05:41] <Sakireth> lol, [16:04:26] <Sakireth> lol, [16:04:07] <spidey> lol, [16:03:32] <Vanhayes> lol, [16:03:29] <spidey> O_o, [16:03:05] <spidey> O_o, [16:02:59] <spidey> yay, [16:02:12] <Sakireth> ..., [15:55:50] <Vanhayes> hmm, [15:47:38] <Luke-Jr> ..., [15:44:55] <spidey> O_o, [15:41:19] <spidey> heh, (24 more messages)
23:07 <Sakireth> i'm not that mean xD
23:08 <Sakireth> .... wtf
23:08 <joda_bot> don't fool around too much ;)
23:08 <Sakireth> okay :P
23:08 <joda_bot> and delete the messages afterwards ;)
23:08 <Sakireth> #m Sakireth you are a fool.
23:08 <armabot> Sakireth: The operation succeeded.
23:08 <Sakireth> ho?
23:08 <Sakireth> how*
23:08 <spidey> omg
23:08 <spidey> i have 2 fps in tron
23:08 <spidey> omg
23:08 <spidey> i really broke something
23:08 <spidey> O_o
23:08 <Sakireth> that is the phattest thing ever known! :3
23:08 <madmax|pt> well it wasnt your keyboard
23:08 <Sakireth> on a commodore 64 that's really rare! :3
23:09 <spidey> O_o
23:09  * spidey see what packages he fucked up
23:09 <spidey> i bet it's from when i updated all the X packages
23:09 <spidey> brb
23:09 <Sakireth> ... y'know what
23:10 <Sakireth> i accidently screwed up freewebs's chat program.
23:10 <Sakireth> AKA found an exploit
23:10 <Sakireth> [size=-10]
23:10 <Sakireth> [size=-10]Text
23:10 -!- Lackadaisical [n=lack@ipd50aa335.speed.planet.nl] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.72 [Firefox]"]
23:10  * spidey is updating 586 packages
23:11 <spidey> i forgot last time i went to update i accidently killed synaptic
23:11 <spidey> so that might be why my fps = 2 O_o
23:11 <wrtlprnft> what does glxinfo say?
23:12 <wrtlprnft> direct rendering: Yes
23:12 <spidey> spidey@3[~]$ glxinfo
23:12 <spidey> bash: glxinfo: command not found
23:12 <wrtlprnft> creat
23:12 <wrtlprnft> *great
23:12 <spidey> ?
23:12 <wrtlprnft> missing th mose basic opengl tools :S
23:12 <spidey> O_o
23:12 <spidey> i'm finishing the update
23:12 <spidey> so maybe that'll fix it
23:12 <spidey> 586 packages :/
23:13 <spidey> 14 minutes left
23:13 <spidey> lol
23:15 <wrtlprnft> you have 586 packages installed?
23:15 <spidey> more
23:15 <spidey> 16 wasn't updated
23:16 <Vanhayes> #shuffle v a n h a y e s
23:16 <armabot> Vanhayes: a v y n s a e h
23:16 <Vanhayes> #shuffle v a n h a y e s
23:16 <armabot> Vanhayes: h a a n s v e y
23:16 <Sakireth> armabot: # reverse vanhayes
23:16 <armabot> Random Fortune:  Q: What lies on the bottom of the ocean and twitches? || A: A nervous wreck.
23:16 <Vanhayes> lol
23:16 <Sakireth> #reverse vanhayes
23:16 <Vanhayes> wow
23:16 <Vanhayes> # 
23:16 <Sakireth> #shuffle vanhayes
23:16 <armabot> Sakireth: vanhayes
23:16 <Sakireth> heh
23:16 <Vanhayes> # reverse
23:16 <Sakireth> armabot: # reverse
23:16 <armabot> Random Fortune:  Thus spake the master programmer: || "Without the wind, the grass does not move. Without software, || hardware is useless." || -- Geoffrey James, "The Tao of Programming"
23:16 <Sakireth> armabot: #
23:16 <armabot> Random Fortune:  New York now leads the world's great cities in the number of people around || whom you shouldn't make a sudden move. || t -- David Letterman
23:16 <spidey> #shuffle s u p e r c a l a f r a g a l i s t i c s e x p e a l a d o s e s z o m g w t f h a x p l z k t h n x b b q
23:17 <armabot> spidey: s z b e e l f p s a x p o t n x i a w a t k a h i x a g q l a o s m e d f a c h g e z s l t p b c r u l s r
23:17 <Sakireth> armabot:
23:17 <Sakireth> armabot: f
23:17 <armabot> Random Fortune:  On a normal ascii line, the only safe condition to detect is a 'BREAK' || - everything else having been assigned functions by Gnu EMACS. || -- Tarl Neustaedter
23:17 <Sakireth> aha.
23:17 <Vanhayes> #r
23:18 <wrtlprnft> spidey: 674 packages here
23:19 <spidey> heh
23:19 <spidey> most of mine are garbage
23:19 <spidey> but oh well
23:19 <spidey> i was playing with synaptic earlier
23:19 <spidey> lol
23:19 <wrtlprnft> well, that includes lots of development packages
23:20  * spidey notes to self "before downloading something and then trying to find proper libraries and headers to check synaptic first
23:20 <spidey> i went through all that shi
23:20 <spidey> shit
23:20 <spidey> and they have a blackbox package in the repository
23:20 <Sakireth> guy
23:20 <Sakireth> s
23:20 <Sakireth> can you do me a favor?
23:20 <spidey> ?
23:21 <Sakireth> can you check here: http://www.freewebs.com/fwdiscuss/chat.htm and tell me if it's broke on your screen?
--- Log closed Thu Jul 06 23:21:24 2006
--- Log opened Thu Jul 06 23:22:25 2006
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23:22 -!- Irssi: #armagetron: Total of 19 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 19 normal]
23:22 <Sakireth> joda_bot: Used to work here.
23:22 -!- Irssi: Join to #armagetron was synced in 11 secs
23:22 <Sakireth> joda_bot: until i typed a piece of bbcode.
23:22 <joda_bot> ah, just thought because of the gray window ;)
23:23 <joda_bot> no the chat thing does not work for me with firefox
23:23 <Sakireth> HEH
23:23 <Sakireth> GOOD.
23:23 <Sakireth> so..
23:23 <Sakireth> i really DID broke it..
23:23 <Sakireth> i didn't want to though
23:23 <Sakireth> i did it accidently..
23:23 <Sakireth> [size=-10]Text
23:23 <Sakireth> is supposed to make fonts small... but..
23:23 <Sakireth> it can be used as an exploit, apperently
23:24 <joda_bot> Sakireth: it might be working because I do not have a login
23:24 <joda_bot> Sakireth: is the "chat" window gray if after "loading..." ?
23:25 <Sakireth> yes
23:26 <joda_bot> wah, just talking german gibberish english
23:26 <joda_bot> really going to bed now ;)
23:26 <joda_bot> #night
23:26 <armabot> Good night joda_bot!
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23:32 <wrtlprnft> #night
23:32 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
23:37 <spidey> brb in about 20 minutes
23:37 -!- spidey [n=spidey@68-119-125-64.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has quit ["Leaving"]
23:39 <Sakireth> http://www.freewebs.com/sakireth/
23:39 <Sakireth> demo of a working one

Log from 2006-07-07:
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00:11 -!- spidey [n=spidey@68-119-125-64.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #armagetron
00:11 <spidey> that was a fast format :>
00:11 <madmax|pt> o_O
00:12 <spidey>  17:11:32 up 3 min,  1 user,  load average: 1.67, 0.77, 0.31
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00:16 <Luke-Jr> spidey: ....
00:16 <Luke-Jr> why not
00:16 <spidey> why not what
00:16 <Luke-Jr> spidey: move your site? =p
00:17 <spidey> cause i don't feel like transfering the mysql
00:17 <Luke-Jr> is the whole site in SQL?
00:17 <spidey> yes
00:17 <spidey> they're forums
00:17 <Luke-Jr> oh
00:17 <Luke-Jr> lol
00:18 <Luke-Jr> not phpBB2?
00:18 <spidey> so without the DB i'll have to start over
00:18 <spidey> yea phpbb2
00:18  * Luke-Jr wonders if phpBB2 works with PHP5 yet
00:19 <spidey> how do you update the locate db ?
00:19 <Luke-Jr> updatedb
00:20 <spidey> lol
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00:23 <spidey> if i'm not back in 2 minutes i made a typo in xorg.conf
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00:28  * spidey makes it a note to remove the floppy drive next time he takes the case apart
00:28 <Luke-Jr> ...
00:28 <Luke-Jr> spidey: so you're not going to change website host?
00:28 <spidey> that icon saying the floppy drive can't be mounted is annoying
00:28 <Luke-Jr> why not setup the floppy drive? =p
00:28 <spidey> atleast not right now,i'm not
00:28 <spidey> i tried
00:28 <spidey> it won't mount
00:28 <Luke-Jr> you added it to fstab?
00:28 <spidey> mount: can't find /dev/fd0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
00:30 <Luke-Jr> answer: no
00:30 <spidey> [mntent]: warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
00:30 <spidey> mount: only root can mount /dev/fd0 on
00:30 <spidey> :/
00:31 <Luke-Jr> under options put 'user'
00:32 <Luke-Jr> nope, phpBB2 doesn't support PHP5 yet
00:32  * Luke-Jr needs to find another forum system anyway, since phpBB sucks for spam
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00:39 <spidey> bah
00:40 <spidey> i just unchecked "show unmounted floppy" in >configure desktop > behaviour > device icons
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00:49 <Vanhayes> hmm this IRC client gives me weird lagg
00:49 <Vanhayes> on tron
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00:50 <madmax|pt> which one?
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00:51 <Vanhayes_> hmm
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00:56 <spidey> spidey@fbi.gov[~]~$
00:56 <spidey> lol
00:59 <Vanhayes> spidey or wrtlprnft or anyone that knows what does Micro Bus City mena, I never really thought about it before
01:00 <spidey> um
01:00 <spidey> micro = admin
01:00 <spidey> micro = bus driver
01:00 <spidey> hence microbus city
01:00 <Vanhayes> what language does micro mean admin?
01:01 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-216-188-42.client.mchsi.com] has joined #Armagetron
01:02 <Vanhayes> hello wattle
01:03 <ghableska> :P
01:04 <Vanhayes> time for a new name again
01:04 <Vanhayes> #shuffle v a n h a y e s
01:04 <armabot> Vanhayes: s a e y v n a h
01:04 <Vanhayes> #shuffle v a n h a y e s
01:04 <armabot> Vanhayes: n h a s y a e v
01:04 <Vanhayes> #shuffle v a n h a y e s
01:04 <armabot> Vanhayes: v a e s a n h y
01:04 <ghableska> :P
01:04 <ghableska> I still like Haan Svey
01:05 <Vanhayes> ya Im gonna remember that one
01:05 <Vanhayes> sounds like a somewhat real name
01:05 <ghableska> yeah
01:06 <ghableska> #google Haan Svey
01:06 <armabot> ghableska: Search took 0.24 seconds: Constraints to Rice Production Systems in Laos: <http://www.aciar.gov.au/web.nsf/att/JFRN-6BN94N/$file/pr101chapter01.pdf>
01:06 <Vanhayes> heh
01:06 <ghableska> o_O
01:06 <spidey> Vanhayes, micro doesn't mean admin
01:06 <ghableska> #google Svey
01:06 <armabot> ghableska: Search took 0.16 seconds: Joe Cook - My Goal is to Built 20 Diamonds in Cambodia: Baseball ...: <http://kbaseball.spaces.msn.com/Blog/cns!1p5OyG8nPsVDSiFTV2ELm_rw!655.entry>; My Local Bands: <http://www.mylocalbands.com/profile.asp?id=86781>; Curse Gaming Forums - View Profile: svey: <http://forums.curse-gaming.com/member.php?u=106270>; Appropriate Intervention for the Reduction (3 more messages)
01:07 <Luke-Jr> wow
01:07 <Luke-Jr> someone's giving away a server o.o
01:07 <spidey> ?
01:07 <ghableska> 0.o
01:09 <Vanhayes> spidey o ya miceo is the name of the admin
01:09 <Vanhayes> micro*
01:09 <spidey> ...
01:09 <spidey> der
01:09 <spidey> and he's canadian,so that explains alot ;)
01:10 <Vanhayes> yes it explains why he is admin and you, an american, arent :)
01:11 <ghableska> oo
01:11 <spidey> LOL
01:12  * ghableska sucks
01:12  * spidey wonders if i can edit the webservers /etc/profile
01:12 <Vanhayes> ghableska: but does Wattle suck?
01:12  * spidey knows ghableska sucks
01:12 <ghableska> lolol
01:12 <ghableska> Wattle sucks even more than ghableska does ;)
01:13 <Vanhayes> lol
01:13 <Vanhayes> #shuffle v a n h a y e s
01:13 <armabot> Vanhayes: n s a y h v a e
01:13 <Vanhayes> #shuffle v a n h a y e s
01:13 <armabot> Vanhayes: s n v e a a h y
01:13 <Vanhayes> #shuffle v a n h a y e s
01:13 <armabot> Vanhayes: s h a v n y e a
01:13 <Vanhayes> heh
01:13 <spidey> #shuffle r e t a r d e d g h a b l e s k a 
01:13 <spidey> O_o
01:13 <armabot> spidey: k e l r a e t a b h e s r g d a d
01:13 <ghableska> oo
01:13 <ghableska> fun to pronounce :)
01:13 <spidey> LOL
01:14 <Vanhayes> heh Shave Yan
01:18 <Vanhayes> #shuffle v a n h a y e s
01:18 <armabot> Vanhayes: n a e v h y s a
01:18 <Vanhayes> #shuffle v a n h a y e s
01:18 <armabot> Vanhayes: h a e s a y n v
01:18 <Vanhayes> #shuffle v a n h a y e s a l i a s
01:18 <armabot> Vanhayes: s v a i l a y h e a s a n
01:19 <ghableska> poor Durka
01:19 <spidey> only
01:19 <spidey> 06lol
01:19 <spidey> O_o
01:19 <spidey> O6l
01:19 <spidey> mmm
01:19 <Vanhayes> heh durka switched his name to Vanhayes heh
01:20 <spidey> only idiots right in all the  time!
01:20 <spidey> O_o
01:20 <spidey> ohh
01:20 <spidey> only idiots right in color all the time!
01:20 <Vanhayes> in in in in in in in in in
01:20 <ghableska> it happened instantaniously that time
01:21 <Vanhayes> ya Z-man changed it
01:21 <spidey> changed what?
01:21 <Vanhayes> now if your banned it instantly kicks you
01:21 <spidey> ...
01:22 <ghableska> Durka changed his name to Vanhayes, and got kicked :)
01:22 <spidey> usually when i get kicked it's for a retarded reason
01:22 <ghableska> like for killing doublegrinders? ;)
01:22 <Vanhayes> heh only the bad ones get killed
01:22 <spidey> like for killing doublegrinders that don't grind deep enough
01:23 <spidey> i always grind at 3.0 unless i'm next to center,then i hit 4.5+
01:23 <Vanhayes> thats what i said heh
01:23 <spidey> if people can't beat a 3.0 grind on a doublebind
01:23 <spidey> they shouldn't do it
01:24 <Vanhayes> s v a i l a y h e a s a n
01:25  * spidey is installing tron
01:26 <Vanhayes> #shuffle s p i d e y | m b c
01:26 <armabot> Vanhayes: c | i e m s b y p d
01:26 <Vanhayes> #shuffle s p i d e y | m b c
01:26 <armabot> Vanhayes: i e | m s c d b y p
01:26 <Vanhayes> #shuffle s p i d e y | m b c
01:26 <armabot> Vanhayes: m p b s c y i d e |
01:26 <Vanhayes> #shuffle s p i d e y | m b c
01:26 <armabot> Vanhayes: y p m | b c s i e d
01:27 <Vanhayes> #shuffle s p i d e y | m b c
01:27 <armabot> Vanhayes: b m s | p y c e i d
01:29 <Vanhayes> ghableska where did Wuttle come from again?
01:30 <ghableska> I forgot :-/
01:30 <Vanhayes> #shuffle r a n d o m n a m e
01:30 <armabot> Vanhayes: o d m a m n n e r a
01:30 <Vanhayes> lol
01:30 <Vanhayes> #shuffle w u t t l e
01:30 <armabot> Vanhayes: w l t u e t
01:30 <Vanhayes> #shuffle w u t t l e
01:30 <armabot> Vanhayes: t u t e w l
01:30 <Vanhayes> #shuffle w u t t l e
01:30 <armabot> Vanhayes: e t w u l t
01:30 <Vanhayes> #shuffle w u t t l e
01:30 <armabot> Vanhayes: u e l w t t
01:30 <ghableska> ah, found it
01:31 <ghableska> ghableska:     that takes more time to say it than to write it
01:31 <ghableska> Vanhayes:     lol
01:31 <ghableska> McSpiddles:     #shuffle s u p e r c a l a f r a g a l i s t i c e x p e a l a d o s e s z o m g w t f p w n
01:31 <ghableska> armabot:     McSpiddles: w s g i a e o o l f m l f n s p a s a z a e i e g r p c c a x p a r d s w u t t l e
01:31 <ghableska> ghableska:     I like the end, actually
01:31 <madmax|pt> this happens everyday now?
01:31 <ghableska> ghableska:     "wuttle"
01:31 <madmax|pt> lol
01:31 <Vanhayes> heh
01:31 <Vanhayes> I remember that now
01:31 <Vanhayes> madmax|pt what happens everyday?
01:31 <ghableska> yeah ;)
01:32 <Vanhayes> #shuffle r a n d o m n a m e
01:32 <armabot> Vanhayes: a o a m n e d r m n
01:32 <Vanhayes> #shuffle r a n d o m n a m e
01:32 <armabot> Vanhayes: m m a d e r n o a n
01:32 <Vanhayes> #shuffle n a m e
01:32 <armabot> Vanhayes: a e n m
01:32 <Vanhayes> #shuffle n a m e
01:32 <armabot> Vanhayes: n m a e
01:32 <Vanhayes> #shuffle n a m e
01:32 <armabot> Vanhayes: n m a e
01:32 <Vanhayes> #shuffle n a m e
01:32 <armabot> Vanhayes: e a n m
01:32 <Vanhayes> #shuffle n a m e
01:32 <ghableska> the shuffling?
01:32 <armabot> Vanhayes: a m e n
01:32 <Vanhayes> heh ya probly
01:35 <Vanhayes> it is easier than thinking up new names
01:35 <ghableska> yeah
01:36 <madmax|pt> Vanhayes, shuffling happens everyday
01:36 <Vanhayes> ?
01:37 <madmax|pt> argh
01:37 <ghableska> ?
01:37 <madmax|pt> #shuffle p u t t h i n g h e r e
01:37 <armabot> madmax|pt: i e h t h e n u r p g t
01:37 <madmax|pt> THIS
01:37 <madmax|pt> lol
01:38 <ghableska> #shuffle s h u f f l e
01:38 <Vanhayes> I dont get it..
01:38 <armabot> ghableska: h s f l f u e
01:38 <Vanhayes> heh jk
01:38 <Vanhayes> #shuffle b l a z e
01:38 <armabot> Vanhayes: b z e l a
01:39 <ghableska> zebla
01:39 <Vanhayes> #shuffle f a k e n a m e
01:40 <armabot> Vanhayes: a e n e a m k f
01:40 <Vanhayes> #shuffle f a k e n a m e
01:40 <armabot> Vanhayes: a e m f e k a n
01:40 <Vanhayes> #shuffle f a k e n a m e
01:40 <armabot> Vanhayes: e a k e a f m n
01:40 <Vanhayes> #shuffle f a k e n a m e
01:40 <armabot> Vanhayes: e k n a a m f e
01:40 <Vanhayes> #shuffle f a k e n a m e
01:40 <armabot> Vanhayes: e e k a m a f n
01:40 <ghableska> eekfaman
01:40 <Vanhayes> meh im just going with THE the
01:41 <ghableska> that's an old one, isn't it?
01:41 <Vanhayes> yup, i forgot about it untill right now
01:41 <ghableska> what was the other one? Ra?
01:42 <Vanhayes> ya that one is pretty new tho
01:54  * ghableska hates double grinders now
01:54 <Vanhayes> #shuffle C T S L | M B C ~ * S P * ~ 
01:54 <armabot> Vanhayes: C S B * L | T ~ P M C * ~ S
01:54 <Vanhayes> #shuffle C T S L | M B C ~ * S P * ~ 
01:54 <armabot> Vanhayes: S ~ L * M C S T B | P C * ~
01:54 <Vanhayes> #shuffle C T S L | M B C ~ * S P * ~ 
01:54 <armabot> Vanhayes: B * * S C P T L S ~ ~ | M C
01:54 <Vanhayes> #shuffle C T S L | M B C ~ * S P * ~ 
01:54 <armabot> Vanhayes: ~ B * T * S L C | C P ~ S M
01:55  * Vanhayes hates Doublegrinders that dont know how to Double grind
01:55 <Vanhayes> #shuffle C T S L | M B C ~ * S P * ~ 
01:55 <armabot> Vanhayes: B * P M C S * ~ C T ~ | L S
01:55 <Vanhayes> #shuffle C T S L | M B C ~ * S P * ~ 
01:55 <armabot> Vanhayes: P S T C S ~ B ~ | C L * M *
01:55  * Vanhayes hates Doublegrinders that dont know how to Double grind
01:55 <Vanhayes> er
01:55 <Vanhayes> #shuffle C T S L | M B C ~ * S P * ~ 
01:55 <armabot> Vanhayes: C ~ P S M | T C S B * * L ~
01:56 <Vanhayes> #shuffle CT SL |MBC ~*SP*~ 
01:56 <armabot> Vanhayes: ~*SP*~ |MBC CT SL
01:57 <Vanhayes> hmm no vowels in there
02:22 <ghableska> it's kind of sad how noobs get kicked for stupid reasons :(
02:25 <Vanhayes> heh wuttle is noob
02:25 <Vanhayes> ghab isnt tho so he doesnt get kicke
02:26 <ghableska> I would've gotten kicked if you didn't tell them who I was ;)
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02:43 <Vanhayes> what is descriptor id 240 and why would I have to upgrade Armagetron beacause of it
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03:41 <spidey> http://www.sp-clan.com/
03:42 <spidey> lol
03:42 <spidey> sp = shit
03:42 <spidey> i wanted to flame some people :/
03:46 <Vanhayes> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=71361&sid=dff74878ccea42e789c61019b65de291#71361
03:46 <Vanhayes> what the hell is the point of that?
03:48 <spidey> LOL
03:48 <spidey> ask him what answer?
04:02  * spidey won KBattleship in 35 shots
04:03 <spidey> and only received 1 sunken ship
04:03 <spidey> xD
04:10  * spidey owns at tuxkart
04:10 <spidey> lol
04:11 <Vanhayes> what is tuxcart
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04:12 <Vanhayes> wb ghableska
04:12 <ghableska> ty Vanhayes
04:12 <ghableska> keyboard working again :)
04:12 <Vanhayes> lol, did you put a wire on it?
04:13 <ghableska> no, but it just started working (for no reason)
04:17 <spidey> hahahaha
04:17 <ghableska> o.0
04:17 <spidey> planetpenguin racer is awesome
04:17 <ghableska> ?
04:17  * spidey is playing kde game
04:17 <spidey> games*
04:17 <ghableska> what is it?
04:17 <spidey> you control a giant ass penguin
04:17 <spidey> and you have to capture these fish
04:17 <ghableska> o.0
04:18 <spidey> going down a hill really fast
04:18 <spidey> then there's tuxcart
04:18 <ghableska> fun...
04:18 <spidey> which is mario cart only with tux
04:18 <spidey> then i won 5 outta 6 rounds of battleship
04:18 <ghableska> is it better?
04:18 <ghableska> wd :P
04:18  * spidey goes to play k-tetris
04:21  * ghableska ppppppppppppppppppppppppp
04:21 <ghableska> noo
04:21 <ghableska> :(
04:23 <spidey> omg
04:23 <spidey> i made it to level 4 and that shit was moving to fast for me to keep up
04:23 <spidey> O_o
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04:24 <Vanhayes> wb again ghableska
04:26  * ghableska rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreminds sellllllllllllllllllllllffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffnot to press escape
04:26 <ghableska> grr
04:26 <Luke-Jr> ...
04:27  * ghableska asks for a new keyboarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrd
04:31 <Luke-Jr> configure: error: You need the library SDL to compile Armagetron. Read the file doc/install_linux.html.
04:31 <Luke-Jr> how about suggesting server?
04:36 <ghableska> yay, keyboard working again :D
04:43 <spidey> O_o
04:44 <ghableska> :P
04:52 <spidey> mmmm
04:52  * spidey has been thinking about something all day and now my head hurts O_O
04:53  * ghableska gives spidey a Tylenol.
04:54 <spidey> 3 please
04:54 <spidey> of the 600mg ones
04:55  * spidey wants to install blackbox again but is scared he might break something else 
04:55 <spidey> O_o
04:55  * ghableska watches spidey get knocked out
04:56 <spidey> 3 600mg tylenols wouldn't do anything to me
04:56 <spidey> i used to take them all the time because before we found out my blood pressure was high
04:56 <spidey> i used to always have bad headaches
04:56 <ghableska> :(
04:56 <spidey> so i can withstand a high amount of tehm
04:56 <spidey> them
04:57 <ghableska> Aspirin?
04:57 <spidey> ibeprofene
04:58 <spidey> or however it's spelled
04:58 <spidey> got a bottle of 300mgs downstairs
04:58 <spidey> when i get unlazy i'll go take one or two
05:23 <Lucifer_arma> #last --with luci
05:23 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: [14:13:35] <Luke-Jr> Lucifer_arma: the point of the thread was to get release people to ensure the release only contains official resources and to either remove others or add them to the repository
05:24 <ghableska> Lucifer_arma: I've always wondered- what are Breakfast servers?
05:24 <Lucifer_arma> clones of eggcozy's server
05:24 <ghableska> why were they named 'Breakfast?"
05:24 <spidey> lol
05:25 <spidey> breakfast in hell
05:25 <spidey> i think i got kicked from there a long time ago
05:25 <spidey> O_o
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> because eggcozy always named his server Breakfast of something or other
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> First time I saw it it was Breakfast Burrito
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> later it was Breakfast of CHampions
05:25 <spidey> LOL
05:25 <ghableska> heh 
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> servers derived from his server were tagged Breakfast for awhile
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> that's Swampland and whatever name I've used for my server
05:26 <ghableska> oh
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> then awhile back eggcozy made a little noise about what he considers "breakfast" to be, so me and swampy picked a new name to put in place of "breakfast"
05:28 <ghableska> what kind of settings did eggcozy have?
05:28 <spidey> yay!
05:29  * spidey can't find abuse
05:29 <spidey> O_o
05:29  * Vanhayes abuses spidey
05:29 <Vanhayes> there
05:29 <spidey> root@fbi.gov[~]$ abuse
05:29 <spidey> Disabling memory manager, using libc instead
05:29 <spidey> Abuse-SDL 0.7.0
05:29 <spidey>  Abuse (Version 2.00)
05:29 <spidey> Sound : Disabled (couldn't find the sfx directory)
05:29 <spidey> Segmentation fault
05:29 <spidey> _Oo
05:29 <spidey> O_o
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> swampland is very similar to eggcozy's last server
05:31 <ghableska> oh
05:31  * spidey can't play on swampland
05:31 <spidey>  :/
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> but it ran an older version, rubber behaved differently
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> z-man's fortress is a lot closer to how eggcozy's server played :)
05:31 <spidey> i get all laggy on swampland when i go to kill someone
05:32 <ghableska> actually, I don't think I've ever played on swampland before o.0
05:32 <Lucifer_arma> lag is part of the game there.  :)
05:32  * ghableska goes off to Swampland :D
05:32  * spidey follows
05:32 <spidey> in a minute
05:32 <spidey> i want icecream
05:37 <ghableska> hmm, seems a bit like Shrunkland with more wall accel
05:44 <ghableska> I'm off to bed, cya
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06:06 <spidey> lol
06:06 <spidey> i just got called a "haxxor" in xzl
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09:47 <wrtlprnft> #later tell van* micro is the name of the admin, or sometimes boosh, depends on his mood.
09:47 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
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10:50 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #morning
10:50 <armabot> Good Morning [Xpert]DarkStar Random Fortune:  Burns: I can't understand a word you're saying. || Homer: My name is Homer Simpson! || Burns: You're just babbling incoherently... || Homer: Oh, you're a dead man, Burns. Oh, you're dead! You're dead, || Burns! || Who Shot Mr. Burns (Part 1)
10:56 <Sakireth> #
10:56 <Sakireth> armabot: #
10:56 <armabot> Random Fortune:  Well let's call them, uh, Mr. X and Mrs. Y. So anyway, Mr. X would || say, `Marge, if this doesn't get your motor running, my name isn't || Homer J. Simpson.' || -- Homer Simpson || Secrets of a Successful Marriage
10:57 <Sakireth>  #chuck
10:57 <Sakireth> #chuck
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13:44 <Brooky> Hi all
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14:03 <madmax|pt> hello
14:09 <joda_bot> hi Brooky 
14:09 <joda_bot> hi madmax|pt
14:16 <Brooky> hi max
14:25 <spidey> it costs more than a penny to make a penny O_o
14:27 <Brooky> why does it?
14:27 <spidey> metal prices are high o__O
14:27 <Brooky> Oh
14:27 <Brooky> i get you
14:27 <Brooky> but it doesnt cost ?50 to make the note
14:28 <spidey> ?
14:28 <Brooky> it doesn't cost 50 pound to make a ?50 note
14:32 <Brooky> i was just thinking
14:32 <Brooky> how does the money get into the system
14:32 <Brooky> when it is made at the mint
14:32 <Brooky> where does it go?
14:32 <Brooky> and...
14:33 <Brooky> who distributes it?
14:33 <spidey> banks....
14:34 <[Xpert]DarkStar> aliens
14:34 <spidey> lol
14:34 <[Xpert]DarkStar> you knew
14:34 <[Xpert]DarkStar> know
14:34 <[Xpert]DarkStar> elvis is not dead
14:34 <spidey> is too
14:34 <[Xpert]DarkStar> he's just gone home
14:34 <spidey> i saw his ghost!
14:35 <spidey> O_o]
14:35 <[Xpert]DarkStar> i saw him alive...
14:35  * spidey isn't that old
14:35 <[Xpert]DarkStar> nor am i
14:35 <[Xpert]DarkStar> 18
14:35 <spidey> then,tv doesn't count :p
14:36 <[Xpert]DarkStar> i saw him standing in front of me
14:36 <[Xpert]DarkStar> he is not dead
14:36  * spidey slaps [Xpert]DarkStar  around a bit with a large cow
14:36  * [Xpert]DarkStar slaps spidey with windows me
14:36  * spidey slaps [Xpert]DarkStar  around a bit with a large cow
14:37 <spidey> better
14:37 <spidey> maybe a dead skunk
14:37 <spidey> O_o
14:37 <[Xpert]DarkStar> ><
14:38 <spidey> lahhl
14:41 <Brooky> ok
14:42 <Brooky> does anyone have any wml/wap exp?
15:21 <guru3> i've got like 12 torrents running
15:21 <guru3> so why the hell
15:21 <guru3> are people still playing on my tron servers
15:25 <Luke-Jr> Brooky: because a penny is worth its value in copper
15:25 <Luke-Jr> and it cost money to mold metal
15:25 <Luke-Jr> unlike a quarter, which is only worth slightly more than a penny
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16:15 <Brooky> Ok
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16:50 <cusco> dudes
16:50 <cusco> how can I crazy tronners server?
16:50 <cusco> to test it alone!
17:02 <Brooky> do you own it?
17:06 <Brooky> if so just type this in your console
17:06 <Brooky> TALK_TO_MASTER 0
17:08 <cusco> no I don't!
17:08 <cusco> I just would like to clone it!
17:08 <cusco> :P
17:09 <cusco> I never had a server by the way
17:09 <cusco> its just hey have several maps
17:09 <cusco> and I would lik to practice some!
17:15 <Brooky> why do you want to clone it?
17:15 <cusco> I just said
17:15 <cusco> I would like to practice some maps with a team mate, 
17:15 <cusco> only us
17:15 <Brooky> you cant really
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17:16 <Brooky> hi
17:16 <cusco> so all this talk
17:16 <cusco> to say I can't?
17:16 <ghableska> hi
17:16 <cusco> hi ghableska 
17:16 <ghableska> hi cusco
17:16 <Brooky> you cant just steal someone elses server settings
17:16 <cusco> Brooky: why not?!
17:16 <Brooky> if you find out who owns the server
17:17 <Brooky> they might give you the list with them all on
17:17 <Brooky> but......
17:17 <Brooky> my guess is that they wont
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17:18 <Brooky> Wb
17:18 <wrtlprnft> ty
17:18 <Brooky> why did you leave?
17:18 <ghableska> wb wejp
17:18 <ghableska> Er
17:18 <ghableska> wrtlprnft
17:18 <ghableska> :P
17:18 <wrtlprnft> irssi wanted to connect to charset=UTF-8 every five minutes
17:18 <Brooky> Ok lol
17:18 <cusco> hehe
17:18 <wrtlprnft> and i didn't know how to stop it from doing that
17:18 <cusco> wrtlprnft: /rmrecons
17:19 <cusco> 7say /rmreconns 
17:19 <wrtlprnft> hmm ok
17:19 <cusco> ops
17:19 <cusco> :P
17:19 <Brooky> neither do i because i dont use it
17:19 <cusco> wrtlprnft: were you reading me?
17:19 <cusco> can I clone CT's server
17:19 <cusco> to play some maps on my own?
17:19 <wrtlprnft> i typed /se<tab> charset=UTF-8
17:19 <Brooky> i just said
17:19 <Brooky> no
17:19 <wrtlprnft> uh, you can, sure
17:20 <wrtlprnft> all the maps are on the repository
17:20 <cusco> yes
17:20 <wrtlprnft> http://resource.armagetronad.net/resource/ed/fortress/
17:20 <wrtlprnft> Brooky: no
17:20 <cusco> but how can I play them?
17:20 <cusco> I mean
17:20 <Brooky> what he means is
17:20 <cusco> I have never set a server before
17:20 <Brooky> he wants to clone the sever settongs
17:20 <Brooky> settings*
17:20 <Brooky> but play his own maps
17:21 <Brooky> with friends
17:21 <cusco> I want to try some particular maps
17:21 <cusco> no
17:21 <wrtlprnft> I can tell you how to do it, but I can't speak for ed in the sense of allowing it
17:21 <cusco> lol
17:21 <cusco> ok Im gonna speak with him first
17:21 <cusco> thanks dude
17:21 <wrtlprnft> yw
17:21 <cusco> but but
17:21 <cusco> how about if I wanna play one of those maps.. just one
17:21 <cusco> on my computer
17:21 <cusco> so I try it
17:21 <cusco> can I?
17:22 <Brooky> map file
17:22 <Brooky> then the map of the repository
17:22 <Brooky> ok?
17:23 <wrtlprnft> you take the url, but without the http://resource.armagetronad.net/resource/
17:24 <wrtlprnft> so MAP_FILE <theresultofabove>
17:24 <wrtlprnft> CRazy Tronners Wild Fortress. How do you do it?
17:24 <wrtlprnft> oops
17:24 <wrtlprnft> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=5731
17:27 <cusco> cheers
17:29 <Brooky> ed says "If anyone wants a copy of my config files, just ask"
17:29 <Brooky> so just ask him
17:31 <cusco> Brooky: I got your opinion already. thanks
17:31 <Brooky> o...k...
17:31 <Brooky> only saying
17:31 <cusco> how about setting up a server.. 
17:31 <cusco> it wants to install alsa libs
17:31 <cusco> :/
17:32 <wrtlprnft> o_O
17:32 <wrtlprnft> --disable-glout, right?
17:32 <cusco> on ./configure?
17:32 <cusco> lol
17:32 <wrtlprnft> yeah
17:32 <cusco> kk
17:32 <wrtlprnft> or else you're building the client
17:32 <cusco> right..
17:32 <cusco> thanks :P
17:37 <Brooky> so...
17:37 <Brooky> what is the source download all about on the download list?
17:38 <cusco> source code
17:38 <Brooky> what do you do with it though
17:39 <cusco> compile it
17:39 <Brooky> how?
17:39 <cusco> to produce the binaire wxecutable file
17:39 <cusco> with a compiler
17:39 <Brooky> how do i do that then?
17:40 <cusco> use a compiler
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17:58  * ghableska likes his new nick
17:58 <madmax|pt> which is?
17:58 <madmax|pt> wuttle?
17:58 <madmax|pt> lol
17:58 <ghableska> yeah ;)
17:59 <ghableska> #shuffle W u t t l e
17:59 <armabot> ghableska: e u W t l t
17:59 <ghableska> #shuffle W u t t l e
17:59 <armabot> ghableska: e l u t W t
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19:46 <guru3> is there a zautomatic as well?
20:07 <Vanhayes> Ha I just got it
20:29 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
20:29 <armabot> Vanhayes: Tigers Network Speed Blast (13 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (10 players) || Bugfarm Fortress (9 players) || Norm's Place (8 players) || Swampland in 2.7.1 (7 players) || XzL. Clan "The Server" (7 players) || ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Arena {100MBit} (6 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Dogfight (5 players) || Mutiny Clan Server (5 players) || Tigers Network Classic (1 more message)
20:29 <Vanhayes> #more
20:29 <armabot> Vanhayes: Play (5 players) || ben rules (4 players) || [armagetronad.de] no.1 (3 players) || Bugfarm Sumo (2 players) || icemans network nuke zone - www.icemans.net (2 players) || LumaTron (2 players)
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20:48 <Luke-Jr> cusco: copy the MAP_FILE setting and you're good to go
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21:17 <spidey> O_o
21:20 <madmax|pt> o_O
21:20  * spidey pokes madmax|pt
21:22 <Vanhayes> O_O
21:22  * spidey pokes Vanhayes 
21:22  * Vanhayes loses it and smashes spidey in the head with a brick untill he is on the ground
21:22 <spidey> looooooool
21:23  * spidey hired big bubba to take Vanhayes out
21:23 <spidey> O_o
21:25 <Luke-Jr> anyone want to play on my test server with open admin pass?
21:25  * Vanhayes wonders how spidey knows big bubba
21:26 <Vanhayes> what is it testing?
21:28 <Luke-Jr> anything
21:29 <Luke-Jr> or will be
21:37 <Vanhayes> hmm maybe later I have to go deskunk my cat in a few minutes
21:38 <Luke-Jr> boo
21:39 <mkzelda> tomato sauce
21:40 <mkzelda> wash your cat in tomato sauce
21:41 <Vanhayes> tried that and now he smeels like 6 month old tomato juice
21:41 <Vanhayes> had to go buy some kind of special shamppo
21:44 <Vanhayes> ok time to shampoo 
21:48  * madmax|pt kills spidey
21:48 <madmax|pt> ...and goes to have dinner
21:49 <madmax|pt> NOT spidey though
21:49 <madmax|pt> lol
21:55 <Luke-Jr> lame
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22:01 <Vanhayes> hello wrtlprnft_
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22:51 <spidey> yay
22:52 <Vanhayes> yay for what?
22:52 <spidey> won the xzl dogfight match O_o
22:52 <Vanhayes> congrats
22:53 <spidey> not over yet
22:53 <spidey> still got one sunday O_o
22:53 <spidey> which i won't have a teammate on :(
23:11 <Vanhayes> Luke-Jr what happened to your server?
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23:19 <spidey> lol
23:19 <spidey> that should answer it
23:19 <spidey> O-o
23:19 <Vanhayes> come to his server
23:19 <Vanhayes> funny
23:21 <spidey> compiling a p2p client
23:21 <spidey> will in a bit
23:21 <spidey> brb
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23:24 <spidey> weird
23:24 <spidey> blackbox with a kde menu
23:24 <spidey> O_o
23:25 <spidey> i saw that
23:31 <spidey> O_o
23:31 <spidey> omg
23:31 <spidey> Message from syslogd@localhost at Fri Jul  7 17:27:47 2006 ...
23:31 <spidey> localhost kernel: Backtrace:
23:31 <spidey> Message from syslogd@localhost at Fri Jul  7 17:27:47 2006 ...
23:31 <spidey> localhost kernel: Trying to fix it up, but a reboot is needed
23:31 <spidey> Message from syslogd@localhost at Fri Jul  7 17:27:47 2006 ...
23:31 <spidey> localhost kernel: Bad page state at free_hot_cold_page (in process 'artsd', page c12c3fe0)
23:31 <spidey> Message from syslogd@localhost at Fri Jul  7 17:27:48 2006 ...
23:31 <spidey> localhost kernel: flags:0x80000414 mapping:00000000 mapcount:0 count:0
23:31 <spidey> Message from syslogd@localhost at Fri Jul  7 17:27:48 2006 ...
23:31 <spidey> localhost kernel: Backtrace:
23:31 <spidey> Message from syslogd@localhost at Fri Jul  7 17:27:48 2006 ...
23:31 <spidey> localhost kernel: Trying to fix it up, but a reboot is needed
23:31 <spidey> Message from syslogd@localhost at Fri Jul  7 17:27:49 2006 ...
23:31 <spidey> localhost kernel: Trying to fix it up, but a reboot is needed
23:31 <spidey> that's scrolling
23:31 <spidey> O_o
23:31 <spidey> brb
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23:31 <spidey> irssi the sux :p
23:31 <Vanhayes> wb spidey
23:32 <spidey> ty
23:32 <Vanhayes> fix the problem?
23:32 <spidey> guess so
23:32 <Vanhayes> was there a problem?
23:32 <spidey> now i gotta mess with blackbox
23:32 <spidey> heh
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23:36 <Lucifer_arma> z-man: is this fancy lag correction stuff in the trunk?
23:37 <z-man> yes, I merged it
23:37 <z-man> something is not completely right yet, thouf
23:37 <Lucifer_arma> ok, cool.  rebuilding my server right now :)
23:37 <z-man> though
23:38 <Lucifer_arma> did you hook it up to libftlnet?
23:38 <spidey> appearently something fucks up when i try to update the db O_o
23:38 <z-man> Lag compensation makes timesteps backward, and that does not mix well with rubber
23:39 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmmm.....
23:39 <Lucifer_arma> I can see there being a collision there (no pun intended)
23:42 <z-man> Lag isn't eliminated, of course :) It's just distributed differently.
23:42 <z-man> A lag slide is supposed to be transformed into lag jumps for the other players.
23:43 <z-man> The server takes notes and does not allow too much abuse, of course.
23:46 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm certainly not expecting a fix for lag without libftlnet, I just figured if you were actively working on lag compensation, the least I could do is update my laggy server :)
23:53 <mkzelda> woo, got my 160gb 16mb cache 10,000rpm sata drives
23:55 <mkzelda> wish i could get boost to compile
23:56 <Lucifer_arma> it seems to be working fine for me
23:56 <Lucifer_arma> I just did emerge boost though :)
23:56 <mkzelda> it seg faults for me
23:56 <Lucifer_arma> it's doing boost-1.33.1
23:56 <Lucifer_arma> what gcc are you using?
23:57 <mkzelda> thats most certainly the prob
23:57 <mkzelda> 4.2.0 2006-06-30
23:57 <Lucifer_arma> ahhh, I'm using whatever gentoo's default gcc was a few months ago
23:57 <mkzelda> compiled fine w/ 4.1.1 on my server
23:58 <Lucifer_arma> is there a gcc update available?  or a boost update you could unmask?
23:58 <mkzelda> there is only one version of boost in portage, i tried to find another version @ boost
23:58 <mkzelda> they dont seem to have anything but 1.33.1
23:58 <z-man> 4.2 already?
23:58 <z-man> gee, they're hard to keep up with
23:58 <mkzelda> im about to compile gcc-4.1.1
23:58 <mkzelda> on this, and recompile the wh ole system w/ it if needed
23:59 <mkzelda> just frustrating b/c i have ~400 packages compiled on this machine
23:59 <mkzelda> all 4.2.0
23:59 <mkzelda> all fine
23:59 <mkzelda> just boost
23:59 <spidey> mepis 3.4.3 = buggy as fuck
23:59 <mkzelda> heh
23:59 <mkzelda> and it thinks its completing

Log from 2006-07-08:
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00:00  * spidey watches Konsole spam messags from syslogd@localhost
00:00 <spidey> O_o
00:00 <mkzelda> [COMPILE] bin.linuxx86/bjam
00:00 <mkzelda> ...updated 2 targets...
00:00 <mkzelda> /usr/portage/dev-libs/boost/boost-1.33.1.ebuild: line 82: 16767 Segmentation fault      ${BOOSTJAM} ${NUMJOBS} -sBOOST_ROOT="${S}" -sPYTHON_ROOT=/usr -sPYTHON_VERSION=${PYVER} -sTOOLS=${BOOST_TOOLSET} -sBUILD="${BUILD}" --prefix=${D}/usr --layout=system
00:01  * spidey looks for his ubuntu cd
00:01 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: no such luck, Mepis is built on ubuntu, and the problem I had with it was caused by the underlying ubuntu
00:01 <Lucifer_arma> er, it might be built on Kubuntu, which is in turn yadayada
00:01 <Lucifer_arma> mkzelda: I don't know....  Did you just try building a tarball from boost?
00:02 <Lucifer_arma> svn: MKACTIVITY of '/svnroot/dsbp/!svn/act/d26de5ff-0418-0410-8492-832cadcbcc72': 403 Forbidden (https://svn.sourceforge.net)
00:02 <spidey> but i didn't get all lots of errors and/or the os breaking everytime i updated the db or compiled something :)
00:02 <Lucifer_arma> now that's annoying
00:02 <mkzelda> im about to try that again
00:02 <spidey> on ubuntu that is
00:02 <spidey> which version did you have lucifer?
00:02 <spidey> above 5.10 ?
00:03 <mkzelda> what is boost?
00:03 <Lucifer_arma> I was trying to get dapper installed, and the mepis I fooled with was the rc built on dapper, and between dapper and mepis, I lost my partition table
00:03 <Lucifer_arma> mkzelda: a collection of relaly freaking useful c++ classes
00:03 <mkzelda> ah
00:03 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, mepis beta 6?
00:03 <spidey> that one is built on the ubuntu kernal
00:03 <mkzelda> anyone happen to know a good data recovery place??
00:04 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: it was the newest rc, whatever version that is :)
00:04 <mkzelda> that doesnt look too hard at the content?
00:04 <mkzelda> heh
00:04 <Lucifer_arma> mkzelda: the fbi?
00:04 <spidey> yea that's the beta 6
00:04 <mkzelda> i have a 160gb with confidential/classified material
00:04 <spidey> which is built on the ubuntu kernal.....but i'm using the "stable" build 3.4.3 which really isn't stable :p
00:04 <mkzelda> i neeeeed it back
00:04 <mkzelda> it has fbi material actually
00:05 <spidey> O_o
00:05 <mkzelda> which is why i need to find someone whos not going to look too hard
00:05 <mkzelda> just fix it
00:05 <mkzelda> it worked, i rebooted, and i've never been able to mount it again
00:05 <mkzelda> it spins up
00:05 <mkzelda> so its corrupted or something
00:05 <spidey> um
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00:06 <spidey> you just want the data recovered?
00:06 <mkzelda> yes
00:06 <spidey> linux?
00:06 <mkzelda> yes
00:06 <spidey> sec
00:06 <mkzelda> i believe the partitions are reiserfs 3.x
00:06 <spidey> http://www.google.com/search?q=data+recovery+tools+for+linux&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial
00:07 <mkzelda> its *that* drive that is important to you
00:07 <mkzelda> all my life's work, family photos etc, backup drive
00:07 <spidey> lol
00:08 <spidey> if it was windows or a ntfs drive,i could give you something that'd recover all the data
00:08 <mkzelda> freakin oracle killed it i believe
00:08 <spidey> but i haven't lost anything on a nix partition :p
00:08 <spidey> btw
00:08 <spidey> if you do find a data recovery program
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00:09 <spidey> it won't recover your data by origanol name
00:09 <spidey> it'll be something like file100012.whatever
00:09 <mkzelda> oh god
00:09 <spidey> then you'll have to rename everything
00:09 <mkzelda> theres about 20gb of images
00:09 <spidey> O_o
00:09 <mkzelda> that will be fun
00:09 <spidey> lol
00:10 <spidey> erm
00:10 <mkzelda> think ill dump it on an ntfs partition
00:10 <spidey> did you say the drive wouldn't mount ?
00:10 <mkzelda> after its recovered
00:10 <mkzelda> yea
00:10 <spidey> then how do you know all the data's gone?
00:10 <mkzelda> its not
00:10 <spidey> ....
00:10 <spidey> put the drive in another box
00:10 <mkzelda> ive done that
00:10 <mkzelda> table is corrupt or something
00:10 <spidey> O_o
00:10 <mkzelda> i really dont know
00:11 <mkzelda> ive fixed a number of drives that stop spinning
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00:11 <mkzelda> bought a comparable drive and took the board off it and put it on the dead one
00:11 <zmanuel> Grr, bouncy connection
00:11 <spidey> lol
00:11 <mkzelda> but thats not the case this time
00:11 <spidey> umm
00:11 <spidey> ok
00:11 <spidey> do you have a windows box?
00:12 <mkzelda> a couple yea
00:12 <spidey> put the drive in one of those
00:12 <spidey> format it
00:12 <spidey> get a recovery program
00:12 <spidey> and run it on it
00:12 <spidey> should recover everything
00:12 <mkzelda> thats an idea ill try if others fail
00:12 <spidey> btw
00:12 <spidey> you might want 2 hdd's
00:13 <spidey> because
00:13 <Lucifer_arma> jesus fucking christ
00:13 <mkzelda> yea i just got 2 raptors
00:13 <spidey> as it recovers
00:13 <spidey> it rights to disk
00:13 <spidey> if it overwrights the data
00:13 <Lucifer_arma> register a new project on sourceforge and you're an admin, right?  that makes you GOD of your project, right?
00:13 <spidey> you're fucked :p
00:13 <mkzelda> ok
00:13 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, no
00:13 <Lucifer_arma> but you still have to go in and flag write access to the svn repo
00:13 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, sourceforge is god of it
00:13 <spidey> they reserve the right to publish what they want
00:14  * spidey found a blank cd
00:14 <spidey> O_o
00:16 <spidey> i have a live ubuntu cd xD
00:17 <spidey> gah
00:18 <spidey> i lost one of my swat4 cd's
00:18 <spidey> found another mepis cd
00:18  * spidey burns it
00:18 <Luke-Jr> come play on my server =p
00:18 <spidey> can't
00:18 <spidey> looking for my ubuntu cd
00:18 <spidey> mepis = fucked
00:19 <Luke-Jr> lol
00:19 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer_arma: you're welcome to come play too
00:20 <Lucifer_arma> why, thank you, Luke-Jr.  Umm, I'm a bit busy right this minute, though.
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00:20 <Lucifer_arma> http://sourceforge.net/projects/dsbp/
00:20 <Lucifer_arma> needs python and pyqt3, of course
00:21 <Lucifer_arma> and a lot of work, still doesn't support budgeting or deleting transactions/accounts, but I'm getting there :)
00:24 <Luke-Jr> pfft qt *3*
00:24 <Luke-Jr> =p
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00:25 <spidey> O_o
00:25 <spidey> i have 2 blank cd's
00:25 -!- zmanuel is now known as z-man
00:26 <spidey> last cd,i hope this is the ubuntu one
00:26 <spidey> O_o
00:26 <spidey> of course it wouldn't be :)
00:26 <z-man> Nice title, luci
00:27 <Luke-Jr> z-man: you can come too :)
00:27 <Luke-Jr> password is admin
00:28 <z-man> I have to fix Bugfarm Fortress, sorry.
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00:28 <spidey> fix it?
00:28 <Luke-Jr> =p
00:28 <Luke-Jr> z-man: would it be simple to make an admin command to respawn someone?
00:29 <spidey>  /admin kill ?
00:29 <z-man> not really, but possible.
00:29 <Luke-Jr> hm
00:29 <Vanhayes> spidey: yes that happens alot
00:29 <z-man> just look what REsPAWN_HACK does
00:29 <spidey> lol
00:30 <spidey> mm
00:30 <spidey> should i go with....raw debian....freebsd.... knoppix or slackware
00:30 <spidey> O_o
00:30 <Luke-Jr> z-man: does the client need to support respawning?
00:30 <z-man> No
00:31 <z-man> Not at all
00:31 <Luke-Jr> how can it handle when an invuln goes thru a wall?
00:31 <z-man> just the invulnerability blinking and delayed wall building needs that
00:31 <z-man> that's the bit it needs support for :)
00:31 <Luke-Jr> how do i disable spam kicks and clear bans? :)
00:31 <Lucifer_arma> z-man: thanks.  :)
00:31  * Luke-Jr got banned for using radmin
00:31 <Luke-Jr> :(
00:31 <z-man> but just raising from the dead alone is no problem.
00:32 <Vanhayes> ya the kicking, killing, and changing the name of the server got annoying
00:32 <z-man> Luke-Jr: you need to disable the code for the regular kicks
00:32 <Lucifer_arma> you guys ran up a poll to kick him?
00:32 <Luke-Jr> :/
00:33 <Luke-Jr> no, they used the kick command
00:33 <z-man> Who needs a poll when everyone is admin?
00:33 <Luke-Jr> lol
00:33 <Lucifer_arma> haha
00:33  * Lucifer_arma has been vote-kicked from his server for kicking people
00:33 <Vanhayes> i think it was xzl something or other
00:33 <Luke-Jr> actually, most of my kicks were from 'spam'
00:34 <z-man> There's a setting somewhere that controls the amount of text you need to push out before it is considered spam
00:34 <Luke-Jr> why are radmin considered spam?
00:36 <Luke-Jr> z-man: BTW, any idea why we dynamically load libnss_dns and libresolv?
00:36 <spidey> does tron support freebsd?
00:37 <Luke-Jr> spidey: not recently
00:37 <spidey> k,so that's out
00:37 <spidey> what about knoppix ?
00:37 <Luke-Jr> knoppix isn't an installable OS...
00:37 <spidey> 'rt
00:37 <spidey> what about slackware?
00:37 <Luke-Jr> nope
00:37 <Luke-Jr> note the source should work on any of those
00:37 <spidey> :/
00:38 <Lucifer_arma> http://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?group_id=171850
00:39 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer_arma: what happened to being anti-SF? =p
00:39 <Lucifer_arma> I still am, but feeling a bit lazy.  I wanted to get this thing into svn, and didn't feel like dealing with my own svn server just yet
00:39 <Lucifer_arma> I'll move it later, more than likely.
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00:40 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer_arma: your balance is broken or smt
00:40 <Luke-Jr> smth*
00:40 <Lucifer_arma> how's that?
00:40 <Luke-Jr> it's blank
00:40 <Lucifer_arma> on the one showing all accounts?
00:40 <Luke-Jr> yea
00:40 <Lucifer_arma> that's because the balance on that view should be 0, it's double-entry
00:41 <Lucifer_arma> so it doesn't make sense
00:41 <spidey> tron support redhat?
00:41 <Luke-Jr> spidey: eww
00:41 <spidey> lol
00:41 <spidey> i guess raw debian it is
00:42 <Lucifer_arma> redhat is the king of sucky linux distributions
00:42 <mkzelda> well the question would be fedora
00:42 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer_arma: it doesn't support multiple sources/destinations =p
00:42 <Luke-Jr> mkzelda: still eww
00:42 <Lucifer_arma> split transactions, you mean?
00:42 <mkzelda> and yes, still ew
00:42 <Lucifer_arma> your'e right, it doesn't---yet.  :)
00:42 <Lucifer_arma> hell, I haven't even put out a 0.1.0 release yet, it's still in pre-alpha.  :)
00:43 <Luke-Jr> =p
00:43 <Luke-Jr> so why Qt 3?
00:43 <mkzelda> could u imagine the level of n00b that would come if fedora included an rpm
00:43 <Lucifer_arma> because qt4 won't show my selected theme in kde
00:43 <Lucifer_arma> but I've built it so any kind of gui can be put together, I intend to work up a wxPython port sometime
00:43 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer_arma: ... no?
00:44 <Lucifer_arma> I'll put out my first windows release with wxPython, and it'll make some GNOME people happy they won't need qt to run it
00:44 <Luke-Jr> Qt4 seems to use my KDE stuff...
00:44 <Luke-Jr> not to mention Qt 4 would give you automatic Win support =p
00:44 <Lucifer_arma> well, it doesn't here.  I started porting my alarm clock to qt4 and it used some default qt4 theme instead of the one I wanted
00:44 <Luke-Jr> unless you use SQL, which is likely
00:44 <Lucifer_arma> no, no sql.
00:44 <Luke-Jr> maybe Qt4's default theme is the same as my KDE theme
00:44 <Luke-Jr> no SQL? for a budget app? O.o
00:45 <Lucifer_arma> heh.  Maybe.  :)
00:45 <Luke-Jr> I use Plastik
00:45 <Lucifer_arma> no, no sql.  The thing needs to be self-contained, and I didn't want to deal with python's database interface just yet.
00:45 <Luke-Jr> I used Qt4/Sqlite for SD's program
00:45 <Luke-Jr> oh... Python
00:46 <Lucifer_arma> but what it doesn't do is te stupid thing both KMyMoney and GnuCash do, which is stick everything into one xml file
00:46 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, py...qt
00:46 <Lucifer_arma> wxPython
00:47 <Luke-Jr> Qt is a nice programming language
00:49 <Lucifer_arma> I'm enjoying it, that's for sure.  It's got a number of things I like better than wxWidgets
00:49 <Lucifer_arma> of course, I'm using it so I can aim for integration with my desktop...  ;)
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00:55 <Luke-Jr> you're not using the Qt language, tho
00:55 <Luke-Jr> you're using Python
00:58 <z-man-home> Lucifer_arma: The improved rubber vs lag compensation code is now in the trunk. If it doesn't work out, you can disable lag compensation with LAG_CREDIT 0
00:59 -!- z-man-home is now known as z-man
01:00 <Lucifer_arma> I'm using the Qt toolkit.  Qt isn't a language, it's a toolkit.  (obviously this is what you want to argue about right now)
01:06 <Lucifer_arma> z-man: I didn't see a commit message from armabot, you sure you committed?  or is armabot broke?
01:06 <Lucifer_arma> #list CIA
01:06 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: addhandler, describe, listhandlers, and removehandler
01:06 <Lucifer_arma> #listhandlers
01:06 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: No handlers defined!
01:06 <Lucifer_arma> fuck
01:08 <Luke-Jr> ...
01:08 <Luke-Jr> Qt is a language also, BTW
01:11 <Lucifer_arma> no, Qt's a toolkit implemented in C++ with it's own preprocessor
01:12 <Lucifer_arma> #addhandler
01:12 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: (addhandler <channel> <shortname> <searchstring> <actiontype> <action>) -- Adds a new handler for commit messages. Actiontype specifies what type of action to do. Currently only "echo" and "cmd" are supported.
01:12 <Lucifer_arma> #addhandler armanotify armagetronad echo $message
01:12 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
01:12 <mkzelda> i just tried boost manually
01:12 <mkzelda> same prob
01:12 <Lucifer_arma> #describe armanotify
01:12 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: armanotify: Matches on 'armagetronad', Performs action of type: 'echo', On channel: #armagetron, Details: $message
01:13 <mkzelda> configure only spits out about 5 lines
01:13 <mkzelda> only does 4 checks
01:13 <mkzelda> and generates the makefile
01:13 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmm, when was your last sync?  It compiled fine for me just now on my gentoo box
01:14 <mkzelda> today
01:14  * Lucifer_arma wonders when his last sync was
01:14 <mkzelda> dookatee boost_1_33_1 # make
01:14 <mkzelda> ./tools/build/jam_src/bin.linuxx86/bjam -sPYTHON_ROOT=/usr -sPYTHON_VERSION=2.4 -sTOOLS=gcc 
01:14 <mkzelda> /bin/sh: line 1: 17202 Segmentation fault      ./tools/build/jam_src/bin.linuxx86/bjam -sPYTHON_ROOT=/usr -sPYTHON_VERSION=2.4 -sTOOLS=gcc
01:14 <mkzelda> Not all Boost libraries built properly.
01:15 <Lucifer_arma> this is beyond me now, I don't know anything about boost other than what philippe and wrtlprnft tell me
01:16 <mkzelda> its about time i give up on this machine and fix my real machine anyways
01:17 <Lucifer_arma> damn, apparently my daily emerge sync cronjob isn't running, or they've just done a big update in portage
01:17 <Lucifer_arma> that would explain why my last update told me I was up to date on everything, heh
01:19 <mkzelda> i used to run an rsync server for my lan but now i just have a network drive for /usr/portage
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01:20 <ghableska> wd Vanhayes
01:20 <ghableska> :P
01:20 <Vanhayes> heh hey ghableska
01:20 <Vanhayes> lol
01:20 <ghableska> what did you do? :P
01:20 <Vanhayes> Luke-Jr your server cant handle your map
01:20 <ghableska> my map? :P
01:21 <Vanhayes> lol his map
01:21 <ghableska> lol, ironic
01:21 <ghableska> it appears on the server list, but if I try to join, it says that it was shut down...
01:21 <Vanhayes> same
01:21 <Vanhayes> works now
01:21 <Vanhayes> er
01:22 <Vanhayes> nvrm
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01:26 <Luke-Jr> Vanhayes: because you picked a map that doesn't exist
01:26 <Vanhayes> puckmap isnt there?
01:28 <Luke-Jr> not lowercase
01:29 <Vanhayes> so Puckmap would be there?
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01:31 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #night
01:31 <armabot> Good night [Xpert]DarkStar!
01:31 <[Xpert]DarkStar> night all
01:31 <[Xpert]DarkStar> cya
01:33 <Vanhayes> cya
01:37  * spidey loves being able to start armagetron from his irc client
01:37 <spidey> lol
01:38 <spidey> mm
01:38 <spidey> it shows outputs and erros too
01:38 <spidey>  WARNING: incorrect filepath. The resource wants to be at "spidey/test4-0.0.1.aacockpit.xml", but was loaded from "spidey/test4.xml".
01:38 <spidey>  ROTATION_FILE is currently set to .
01:38 <spidey>  open /dev/sequencer: No such file or directory
01:39 <spidey> ok
01:40 <spidey> maybe i shouldn't do that again
01:40 <ghableska> :P
01:40 <spidey> tron crashed
01:40 <spidey> lol
01:41 <Vanhayes> spidey ghableska try Luke-Jr's server now
01:41 <ghableska> ok
01:41 <Vanhayes> it has his puckmap
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02:55 <spidey> installing slackware
02:56 <spidey> 3+gig install :/
03:21 <Vanhayes> #night
03:21 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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03:47 <spidey> gah
03:47 <spidey> X11R7.1 doesn't have a single source file
03:48 <spidey> so i gotta type all this shit out with wget
03:48 <spidey> :|
04:08 <Lucifer_arma> could be worse, gentoo is telling me I have to manually remove X11 v6.9 to upgrade to 7.0
04:29 <spidey> O_O
04:43 <spidey> wtf
04:43 <spidey> i formatted the nix hard drive
04:43 <spidey> rebooted
04:43 <spidey> lilo still sees it
04:43 <spidey> O_o
04:47 <Luke-Jr> spidey: no surprise there
04:48 <spidey> ?
04:50 <Luke-Jr> LILO doesn't care about partition tables, nor even filesystems
04:50 <Luke-Jr> all it cares is that the kernel is at sector 443
04:51 <spidey> mm
04:53 <mkzelda> any reason why i'd want to use software raid over hardware raid?
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04:58  * spidey slaps ghableska
04:59  * ghableska cries
04:59  * spidey hates mirc
04:59  * spidey will be glade when his slack install is done :(
04:59 <ghableska> :)
04:59 <spidey> mirc = ugly
04:59  * spidey slaps ghableska around a bit with a large trout
04:59 <spidey> i like that though
04:59 <spidey> lol
04:59  * ghableska doesn't like trout
05:00  * ghableska would like to be slapped with a large pie
05:00  * spidey slaps ghableska around a bit with a large cow
05:00  * spidey lost his uptime on this box a few hours ago
05:00 <spidey> i ment to reboot the nix box so i could install slack
05:01 <spidey> and i rebooted the wrong box
05:01 <spidey> xD
05:01 <ghableska> :P
05:01 <ghableska> smart
05:01 <spidey> yar
05:01 <spidey> well
05:01 <spidey> both computers are setting side by side
05:01 <spidey> so i just reached down and pressed the wrong off switch
05:01 <ghableska> lol
05:02 <ghableska> do they look similar?
05:02 <spidey> not really
05:02 <spidey> one i wired wrong
05:02 <ghableska> oh
05:02 <spidey> so instead of a green light that stays on and a red that blinks
05:02 <ghableska> lol
05:02 <spidey> it has a red light that stays on and a green one that blinks
05:02 <ghableska> o.0
05:03 <spidey> it also has neon blue lights on the case
05:03 <ghableska> cool
05:04 <spidey> formatting a swap partition and checking for bad blocks takes forever :/
05:04 <ghableska> :-/
05:08 <spidey> ok
05:08 <spidey> i give up for now
05:08 <spidey> mepis it is
05:08 <ghableska> :(
05:08 <spidey> only
05:08 <spidey> the really true stable version
05:08 <spidey> that doesn't break with everyinstall
05:10 <spidey> atleast i don't think it does O_o
05:11 <ghableska> 0.o=cooler than O_o
05:11 <ghableska> :P
05:11 <spidey> never
05:11 <ghableska> mine has a nose, beat that
05:12 <spidey> O�o
05:12 <spidey> pwnt
05:12  * ghableska loses
05:13 <deja_vu_> *.*
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05:13 <spidey> lol
05:13  * ghableska asks spidey for more trout
05:13  * spidey slaps ghableska around a bit with a large trout
05:13  * spidey slaps ghableska around a bit with a large trout
05:13 <ghableska> :D
05:14 <spidey> :p
05:16  * spidey thinks about signing up for netflix then ripping the dvd's to the hdd O_o
05:16 <ghableska> o.0
05:16 <ghableska> would it work?
05:16 <spidey> O�o
05:16 <spidey> yes it would
05:16 <spidey> just have to break the encryption on the dvd
05:16 <ghableska> just?
05:16 <spidey> which they have programs for that
05:16 <ghableska> ah ;)
05:16 <spidey> you'd notice
05:17 <spidey> if you put a dvd in the drive and try to run it from the file
05:17 <ghableska> :P
05:17 <spidey> it'll say you're not able to run it in file format or soemthing
05:17 <spidey> but there's like dvdcrypt or something that'll let you rip it
05:18 <spidey> i have 10 dvd's and 10 mini dvd's
05:18 <spidey> so i can convert some of the .mov to .mpeg or /avi and fit them on the minis
05:18 <ghableska> how large are the files?
05:18 <spidey> well
05:19 <spidey> usually around 4gigs
05:19 <spidey> unless it's burnt on a dual layor dvd
05:19 <spidey> then they can get upto 8gigs
05:19 <ghableska> mm
05:19 <spidey> but once you rip 'em you can convert them to .mpeg or .avi
05:20 <spidey> usually brings it down to 700mb - 1.2 gigs
05:20 <spidey> depends on the quality you want
05:20 <spidey> um
05:20 <spidey> shittttt
05:21 <ghableska> ?
05:21 <spidey> formatted the wrong damn drive
05:21 <spidey> :<
05:21 <ghableska>  tsk
05:21  * ghableska thinks spidey should label everything around him
05:24  * spidey takes the drive out while he can still save the data
05:24 <spidey> O_o
05:27 <spidey> grrrr
05:28 <spidey> QTParted won't take a ntfs partition resize it and make it a ext2 :/
05:28 <spidey> ext3*
05:29 <spidey> ......
05:29 <spidey> "problem with mkfs.ext3"
05:29 <ghableska> 0.0
05:30  * spidey considers installing windows then partition manager to make the partitions
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> Mandriva has a nice partition manager
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: you n eed to delete the partition, then create a new one in its place that's the size you want
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> how hard can that be?
05:39 <spidey> pretty damn hard when the live cd's makefilesystem is fucked up :)
05:39 <spidey> and
05:39 <spidey> i know how to install a os :p
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> heh, you sure about taht?
05:39  * Lucifer_arma whistles
05:39 <spidey> am
05:40 <spidey> because it's already installing :p
05:40 <spidey> i forgot i had a bootable DoS cd
05:40 <spidey> has all kinds of tools on it
05:40 <spidey> fdisk for one
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> you putting raw debian on there?
05:41 <spidey> no, a "stable" version of mepis
05:41 <spidey> the last version i had before i updated
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmmm
05:41 <spidey> never had a problem with it
05:41  * Lucifer_arma was burned by mepis, will probably never like it now
05:42 <spidey> no
05:42 <spidey> you used a experimental version
05:42 <spidey> which IS built on the ubuntu kernal
05:42 <spidey> which is also beta 6 :p
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> actually, what trashed my hard drive was the dapper part of mepis
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> so I'm actually pissed at dapper, but as long as mepis is built on dapper, then it's included in my angst
05:42 <spidey> lol
05:43 <spidey> try slackware
05:43 <spidey> if you can get the damn packages to install
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> I might very well be switching to Gentoo next on my laptop
05:44 <spidey> seriously
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> but when I rebuilt this system after the hard drive trashing I put 3 partitions for linux distributions, so I can have a "stable" distribution and room to fool around
05:44 <spidey> i'd install gentoo
05:44 <spidey> i just don't wanna take that amount of time :/
05:44 <spidey> good
05:44 <spidey> it's done
05:45 <spidey> now i can get off this shitty irc client
05:45 <spidey> brb
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05:49 <spidey> now i'm getting annoyed :)
05:52 <spidey> ok
05:52 <spidey> i'ma do this the hard way
05:52 <spidey> and cut my install time inhalf
05:52 <spidey> xD
05:52 <spidey> so it'll be my record install
05:53  * spidey clocks it
05:53 <spidey> hey lucifer,i just thought of something for that gentoo install
05:54 <spidey> will need 2 things
05:54 <spidey> 3 really
05:55 <spidey> well no
05:55 <spidey> just 2
05:55 <spidey> 1
05:55 <spidey> bootable DoS cd
05:55 <spidey> with fdisk and a few other tools
05:56 <spidey> 2 something to extract the iso
05:56 <spidey> put the extracted iso on small partition about 700mb
05:56 <spidey> boot to the DoS cd and format ect....
05:56 <spidey> boot to the harddrive and isntall fromt here
05:57 <spidey> seeing as you won't be installing from a cd
05:57 <spidey> it'll lower install time ALOT
05:57 <spidey> and you'll also need to make
05:58 <spidey> a boot.ini and point it to the gentoo dir
05:58 <spidey> you'll install at your harddrives transfer speed instead of the cd drive transfer speed
05:59 <spidey> which is faster,and if you have a sata drive it's even faster
06:00 <Luke-Jr> MWAHAHAHA
06:00 <spidey> ?
06:00 <Luke-Jr> spidey: BTW, why are you telling Lucifer_arma to DoS someone?
06:00 <Luke-Jr> ;call_ffi("libQtCore.so", "_ZN5QChar9fromAsciiEc", "int32", {{"char", "a"}})
06:00 <spidey> um....
06:00 <spidey> i'm not.....
06:00 <Luke-Jr> <spidey> bootable DoS cd
06:01 <spidey> DoS means disk operating system
06:01 <spidey> it's a OS
06:01 <Luke-Jr> no, that DOS
06:01 <spidey> omg
06:01 <spidey> samething
06:01 <Luke-Jr> very different!
06:01  * spidey slaps Luke-Jr around a bit with a large trout
06:04  * spidey attempts to make a 2 in one cd
06:04 <spidey> for slack anyways
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: or you could just follow their directions and install from an existing installation
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> that's what I did with my server, anyway.  I used the Mandriva system to install gentoo
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> when the gentoo system was ready, I just booted into it
06:06 <spidey> O_o
06:09 <spidey> you gotta be shitting me
06:09 <spidey> 23:08:34 - Starting data burn on DVD-R at 4 X
06:09 <spidey> 4x!!
06:10 <Luke-Jr> ...
06:11 <spidey> ?
06:11 <spidey> i thought 16x was slow :/
06:11 <Luke-Jr> lol
06:11 <Luke-Jr> 16x is 8 min
06:12 <Luke-Jr> now try burning DL at 2.4x
06:12 <spidey> never
06:12 <spidey> besides i don't have DL dvd's
06:13 <Luke-Jr> how do you copy the DL movies?
06:13 <spidey> um
06:13 <spidey> ....
06:14 <spidey> who said i needed dl dvd's for that?
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06:15 <Luke-Jr> to copy a DL disc, the target disc must also be 8 GB
06:15 <spidey> pay more attention man :p
06:15 <Luke-Jr> ...
06:15 <spidey> i said "rip" a DL movie
06:15 <spidey> that means put it on my hdd....
06:15 <spidey> where i can then convert it
06:15 <spidey> and lower the size
06:15 <spidey> :p
06:15 <Luke-Jr> you never said 'rip' anything
06:15 <spidey> i did!
06:16 <spidey> grep it
06:16 <spidey> :)
06:16 <Luke-Jr> oh that was ages ago
06:16 <Luke-Jr> anyway, I said copy
06:16 <spidey> yea...
06:16 <Luke-Jr> not requant
06:17 <Luke-Jr> nor encode
06:17 <spidey> you basically said i needed dl dvd's to copy a dl dvd
06:17 <Luke-Jr> you do
06:18 <spidey> not when i'm coping it to the harddrive
06:18 <spidey> :p
06:18 <Luke-Jr> then you're... um... not copying a DVD, just its data =p
06:18 <spidey> well,i never said copy anyways,i said rip :p
06:19 <Luke-Jr> I said copy =p
06:19 <Luke-Jr> rip isn't enough
06:19 <Luke-Jr> if you just rip, then either your HD fills up, or you sacrifice quality
06:19 <Luke-Jr> BTW, NetFlix to copy DVDs works nicely
06:20 <spidey> well that brings it bback to what else i said
06:20 <spidey> :)
06:20 <spidey> you then reencode it
06:20 <Luke-Jr> but so does getting them from your library
06:20 <Luke-Jr> no!
06:20 <Luke-Jr> that sacrifices quality
06:20 <spidey> well my library doesn't do movie rents
06:20 <spidey> yes
06:20 <spidey> as long as it's vhs+ i'm happy
06:20 <Luke-Jr> boo
06:21  * Luke-Jr isn't happy with even DVD-Video quality
06:21 <spidey> ...
06:21 <Luke-Jr> they should fill 8 GB with MPEG-4 ;)
06:21 <spidey> then you wouldn't be able to play the dvd's on older dvd players
06:22 <Luke-Jr> screw older players
06:22 <Luke-Jr> screw standalone players altogether
06:22 <spidey> which means the people who can't buy new dvd players that support mpeg-4 won't buy/rent the new ones
06:22 <spidey> = loss of customers
06:22 <Luke-Jr> if they can't buy new players/computers, they probably aren't spending much $ renting either
06:23 <spidey> don't be suprised
06:23 <spidey> i used to rent them all the time before i moved here
06:23 <spidey> and i can't offord either
06:23 <spidey> :)
06:24 <spidey> gaaaaah
06:24 <spidey> i can't boot to a dvd
06:24 <spidey> damn it
06:24 <spidey> i should have known
06:24 <spidey> good thing i have a dvd drive in that box aswell :)
06:24  * spidey switches who boots first
06:25 <Luke-Jr> spidey: standalone DVD players cost less than 3 DVD rentals...
06:26 <spidey> not really
06:26 <spidey> here they're $3 a movie
06:26 <spidey> at the one up the road they're priced on age
06:26 <spidey> and don't get over $2.50
06:27 <spidey> wtf
06:27 <spidey> my bios password is wrong :|
06:27 <Luke-Jr> ...
06:27 <spidey> omg
06:28 <spidey> ahahaha
06:28 <spidey> i have 3 passwords on this system i forgot about
06:28 <spidey> 1 for the system setup
06:28 <spidey> 1 for the boot
06:28 <spidey> and 1 for the os login
06:35 <spidey> argh!
06:35 <spidey> the bigger dvd's are even slower
06:35 <spidey> 23:34:31 - Starting data burn on DVD-RW at 2 X
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08:30 <Lucifer_arma> I am the bot with clever tricks
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08:30 <spidey> goddamn it
08:30 <Lucifer_arma> what?
08:30 <spidey> what is it with me and fucking X servers man
08:31 <Lucifer_arma> 10% rule, spidey
08:31 <spidey> for somereason every install
08:31 <spidey> EVERY has something wrong with hte x server
08:31 <spidey> even the same cd i used before
08:31 <spidey> xorgconfig, set it up
08:31 <spidey> still,connection to it times out
08:32 <spidey> _LoaderFileToMem() read() failed: Input/output error
08:32 <spidey> what's that mean?
08:37 <spidey> thank god mepis has apt-get and apt-cache search O_o
08:38 <wrtlprnft> s01:38 <spidey>  WARNING: incorrect filepath. The resource wants to be at "spidey/test4-0.0.1.aacockpit.xml", but was loaded from "spidey/test4.xml".
08:38 <wrtlprnft> spidey: you need to rename the file
08:38 <spidey> yea
08:39 <wrtlprnft> so that it is named test4-0.0.1.aacockpit.xml
08:39 <spidey> i know,i'm just lazy
08:39  * spidey is starting to get frustrated
08:39 <spidey> i don't like that cause it makes my head hurt O_o
08:40 <spidey> oh
08:41 <spidey> that didn't help at all
08:41 <spidey> apt-cache search X
08:41 <spidey> scrolled all kinds of white text on the blackbackground
08:41  * spidey needs tylonel :<
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08:48 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #morning
08:48 <armabot> Good Morning [Xpert]DarkStar Random Fortune:  "`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' || `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'" || - Arthur failing in his first lesson of galactic physics || in four years.
08:55  * spidey is about to say fuck it and just install windows
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09:00  * spidey installs windows
09:00  * spidey may never revert to nix again O_o
09:01 <spidey> i just don't understand :/
09:02 <spidey> how can every distro i've tried have a broke xserver
09:03 <spidey> #time
09:03 <armabot> spidey: 02:04 AM, July 08, 2006
09:03 <spidey> few
09:03 <spidey> my clock says it's the 9th
09:03 <spidey> lol
09:04 <spidey> anyways,i know it's nothing wrong with the computer itself
09:04 <spidey> if it was i wouldn't get the gui login,and the livecd's wouldn't start with x
09:05 <spidey> might be my slave drive,hope not though :/
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09:13 <spidey> lol
09:13 <spidey> poor zman
09:18 <[Xpert]DarkStar> gotta go
09:18 <[Xpert]DarkStar> cyall l8r
09:22 <spidey> o
09:22 <spidey> m
09:22 <spidey> f
09:22 <spidey> g
09:22 <spidey> that's it
09:22  * spidey is this close |---| to throwing this box out the window
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17:05 <mkzelda> hahaha that was funny luci
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18:27 <wrtlprnft> #last --with wrtlprnft 
18:27 <armabot> wrtlprnft: [18:15:50] <Lucifer_arma> this is beyond me now, I don't know anything about boost other than what philippe and wrtlprnft tell me
18:27 <wrtlprnft> as if i knew anything more
18:27 <wrtlprnft> #last --with wrtlprnft --nolimit
18:27 <armabot> wrtlprnft: [11:27:27] <wrtlprnft> #last --with wrtlprnft, [18:15:50] <Lucifer_arma> this is beyond me now, I don't know anything about boost other than what philippe and wrtlprnft tell me, [15:37:51] <Luke-Jr> wrtlprnft: any idea why libresolv and libdns_nss require dynamic loading?, [15:37:42] <Vanhayes> wb wrtlprnft, [15:01:21] <Vanhayes> hello wrtlprnft_, [10:19:44] <cusco> wrtlprnft: were you (4 more messages)
18:28 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr__: no, no clue
18:28 <wrtlprnft> #more
18:28 <armabot> wrtlprnft: reading me?, [10:19:31] <cusco> wrtlprnft: /rmrecons, [10:18:59] <ghableska> wrtlprnft, [18:00:12] <Vanhayes> spidey or wrtlprnft or anyone that knows what does Micro Bus City mena, I never really thought about it before, [06:15:04] <wrtlprnft> 13:05 <armabot> madmax|pt: [03:21:06] <wrtlprnft> 00:05 <Luke-Jr> wrtlprnft:, [03:21:06] <wrtlprnft> 00:05 <Luke-Jr> wrtlprnft:, [19:33:21] * (3 more messages)
18:28 <wrtlprnft> hmm, didn't miss that much after all
18:28 <wrtlprnft> though CIA shows some very interesting- looking antilg magic
18:30 <ghableska> hi wrtlprnft
18:31 <wrtlprnft> hi :)
18:32 <wrtlprnft> and why the heck is my arma checkout missing the .svn dir?!
18:32 <ghableska> um...
18:32  * ghableska doesn't know
18:33 <wrtlprnft> looks like something deleted it
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18:48 <wrtlprnft> who the f**** had the glorious idea to but font tags on the intertron wiki page?
18:48 <nemostultae> Some people still haven't found the preview button
18:49 <wrtlprnft> and then, white text!
18:49 <wrtlprnft> has anyone told them that most of the styles for the wiki have a white background
18:49 <nemostultae> I think in IE it shows up different, so they don't know
18:49 <wrtlprnft> would anyone mind if i would run a s/<[^>]*>//g on that?
18:50 <nemostultae> they might, and the will answer with 100 edits of the page to get it back to original
18:50 <nemostultae> and they*
18:50 <wrtlprnft> great
18:52 <wrtlprnft> hmm, i'll at least replace white text, that's for sure
18:52 <nemostultae> maybe set it in a span, with a black border?
18:52 <wrtlprnft> that's what i did with canada
18:53 <wrtlprnft> when i hadn't yet seen the crazy stuff they did below
18:54 <wrtlprnft> <font color=ff0000>United</font color>
18:55 <wrtlprnft> they can't even do that right...
18:55 <wrtlprnft> 1) missing #
18:55 <wrtlprnft> 2) it's an xhtml page, so you need the ""
18:55 <wrtlprnft> 3) one color too much
18:56 <nemostultae> atleast they didn't just put 0xff0000 in front of the text
18:56 <wrtlprnft> at least that wouldn't have worked
18:57  * wrtlprnft is tempted real hard to lock that page
18:58 <ghableska> :D
19:05 <wrtlprnft> grr, is it font-size or text-size?
19:08 <wrtlprnft> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Inter_Tron&diff=13331&oldid=13311
19:08 <wrtlprnft> let
19:08 <wrtlprnft> *let's see if that helps
19:09 <ghableska> too colorful :(
19:09 <ghableska> especially the names for the US team
19:10 <wrtlprnft> yeah
19:10 <ghableska> makes my eyes water
19:11 <ghableska> :-/
19:11 <wrtlprnft> but as nemostultae said, if i remove them we'll just get tons of edits from people putting them back in
19:11 <ghableska> true
19:11 <ghableska> *sigh*
19:11 <wrtlprnft> and, well, this is a register page, i can hardly lock it
19:11 <ghableska> it's discouraging me from joining the tourney
19:12 <wrtlprnft> though i might protect it for a day or so if it gets worse
19:12 <wrtlprnft> with a meaningful reason, at least people will have to read that
19:12 <ghableska> yeah 
19:13  * ghableska goes off to spell-check
19:13 <wrtlprnft> ?
19:13 <wrtlprnft> spell,
19:13 <ghableska> lots of spelling errors :)
19:13 <wrtlprnft> spell- check what?
19:14 <ghableska> the page
19:14 <wrtlprnft> ah
19:14 <wrtlprnft> didn't bother to read the chaos at the top
19:14 <ghableska> you don't want to :)
19:14 <wrtlprnft> i guessed that
19:14 <ghableska> looks like it was written with a bad translator...
19:16 <wrtlprnft> with google from english to chinese to german to french to english?
19:16 <ghableska> probably
19:17 <ghableska> "brankets"
19:17 <ghableska> er "branckets"
19:17 <wrtlprnft> o_O
19:17 <ghableska> ok, the rest I don't even understand
19:17 <ghableska> I give up
19:18 <ghableska> I managed to get through the first line 0.o
19:19 <wrtlprnft> ghableska: http://wrtlprnft.pastebin.ca/82543
19:19 <wrtlprnft> put that on :P
19:20 <ghableska> lmao
19:20 <ghableska> yes :D
19:20 <wrtlprnft> (name right, not your change of family)
19:20 <wrtlprnft> o_O
19:20 <ghableska> o.0
19:20 <ghableska> "Turnierwilleparticipe"
19:20 <wrtlprnft> isn't much worse than what was originally there, eh?
19:20 <ghableska> nah, it's a huge improvement
19:21 <ghableska> :)
19:21 <wrtlprnft> lol
19:23 <ghableska> much more readable 
19:25 <ghableska> participe..
19:25 <ghableska> at least Tronic was somewhat organized
19:25 <ghableska> especially the mbc page :P
19:27 <wrtlprnft> heh, lol
19:27 <wrtlprnft> that's because i was the only one to edit it
19:27 <ghableska> I know ;)
19:28 <ghableska> speaking of which, have you seen 2020 recently?
19:28  * wrtlprnft wishes we had the kind of contributors wikipedia has
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19:34 <ghableska> hi Vanhayes
19:34 <Vanhayes> hey ghableska
19:37 <wrtlprnft> hi Vanhayes 
19:37 <Vanhayes> hello wrtlprnft
19:37  * ghableska is thinking about switching to Wuttle permanently
19:38 <Vanhayes> heh why, because you play better?
19:39 <ghableska> yes :P
19:44 <Vanhayes> brb
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19:44 <wrtlprnft> #wikipedia wuttle
19:44 <armabot> wrtlprnft: No matches found. (Search took 0.41 seconds)
19:45 <wrtlprnft> #wtf is wuttle
19:45 <ghableska> :P
19:45 <armabot> wrtlprnft: wuttle: nothing appropriate
19:45 <ghableska> another nonsense word :D
19:45 <ghableska> McSpiddles:     #shuffle s u p e r c a l a f r a g a l i s t i c e x p e a l a d o s e s z o m g w t f p w n
19:45 <ghableska> armabot:     McSpiddles: w s g i a e o o l f m l f n s p a s a z a e i e g r p c c a x p a r d s w u t t l e
19:45 <ghableska> ghableska:     I like the end, actually
19:45 <ghableska> ghableska:     "wuttle"
19:45 <ghableska> Vanhayes:     lool
19:45 <ghableska> ghableska:     sounds nice :)
19:45 <ghableska> :P
19:50 <spidey|sleep> #last --from McSpiddles --with wuttle
19:50 <armabot> spidey|sleep: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 30335 messages.
19:50 <spidey|sleep> O_o
19:50 <spidey|sleep> #last --from armabot --with "w u t t l e"
19:50 <armabot> spidey|sleep: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 30338 messages.
19:50 <spidey|sleep> :/
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19:50 <spidey> got a fuckin OS install on that box
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19:56  * spidey pokes joda
19:56  * joda_bot dies
19:56 <spidey> O_o
19:56 <ghableska> o.0
19:56 <spidey> w3rd
19:56  * ghableska pokes spidey
19:56 <spidey> omg
19:57 <spidey> "primary drive 0 not found"
19:57 <spidey> "primary drive 1 not found"
19:57 <spidey> wtf. now it's not detecting both drives :|
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19:59 <luke-jr__> spidey: sucks to be you
19:59 <luke-jr__> that's what you get for not using standard IM
20:00 <spidey> standard im my ass
20:00 <luke-jr__> I would, if your ___ had it
20:00 <spidey> :|
20:02 <spidey> there we go
20:02 <spidey> now to get it to boot to my utility partition :/
20:23 <luke-jr__> why do you have a utility partition?
20:23 <spidey> why?
20:23 <spidey> for cases like this
20:24 <spidey> when the drive gets shot to hell :p
20:24 <luke-jr__> a utility partition won't help
20:24 <spidey> it will
20:24 <spidey> i can run ckdisk amoungs other things
20:24 <spidey> to see what's wrong :p
20:25 <luke-jr__> it's either a hardware problem of a data problem
20:25 <luke-jr__> in the first, nothing can help
20:25 <luke-jr__> in the latter, Knoppix or such are best
20:25 <spidey> lol
20:25 <luke-jr__> just run fsck.vfat
20:26 <spidey> i can mark the bad sectors on the drive
20:26 <luke-jr__> ...
20:26 <luke-jr__> until more go bad
20:26 <luke-jr__> and more
20:26 <luke-jr__> and more
20:26 <spidey> yea....
20:26 <luke-jr__> which is almost always the case
20:26 <luke-jr__> so better to just get a replacement
20:26 <spidey> all i want is to get a OS and a partition manager on here :p
20:26 <spidey> so i can "partition" my backup drive
20:26 <spidey> and not "format" it
20:27 <luke-jr__> if you have bad sectors, more will be going bad soon
20:27 <luke-jr__> um
20:27 <luke-jr__> you know there's a program for *nix that will scan and detect partition data
20:27 <luke-jr__> and rebuild a partition table
20:27 <luke-jr__> just run it from the livecd
20:28 <spidey> yea
20:28 <spidey> they got them for windows too
20:28 <luke-jr__> windows won't run from a CD
20:28 <spidey> will too
20:28 <spidey> bartpt or something
20:28 <luke-jr__> ...
20:28 <spidey> can make live windows cd's
20:28 <luke-jr__> bah
20:28 <spidey> :)
20:28 <luke-jr__> just use atari-fdisk to repartition
20:29 <spidey> i've already got windows on it
20:29 <spidey> so i'ma use partition manager to make a 50gig ext3
20:29 <luke-jr__> um
20:29 <spidey> and just disable the bad drive in bios 
20:29 <luke-jr__> better to just make a 50 gig blank partition
20:30 <luke-jr__> and use mkfs.ext3 to format it
20:30 <spidey> um
20:30 <spidey> i would but
20:30 <spidey> the live cd's i got
20:30 <luke-jr__> I wouldn't trust any other tool to format ext3
20:31 <spidey> mkfs.ext3 is fucked up on qtpartition
20:31 <luke-jr__> ...
20:31 <luke-jr__> just run mkfs.ext3 directly
20:31 <luke-jr__> use cfdisk to examine your partition table
20:31 <spidey> #last --from spidey --with mkfs.ext3
20:31 <armabot> spidey: [13:30:34] <spidey> mkfs.ext3 is fucked up on qtpartition
20:31 <spidey> :p
20:32 <spidey> wait
20:32 <spidey> um
20:32 <spidey> oh well
20:32 <luke-jr__> ...
20:32 <luke-jr__> cfdisk
20:33 <luke-jr__> *look at /dev/hdX# for partiton*
20:33 <luke-jr__> mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdX#
20:33 <luke-jr__> TADA
20:33 <spidey> actually
20:33 <spidey> cfdisk /dev/hda
20:33 <spidey> "new"
20:33 <spidey> "type"
20:33 <spidey> "write"
20:33 <luke-jr__> that works too
20:33 <spidey> that's the slackware way :p
20:33 <luke-jr__> tho cfdisk's default type is Linux
20:34 <spidey> yes but
20:34 <spidey> i can pick a type
20:34 <spidey> from 1 to 90 something
20:34 <spidey> 84 is swap
20:34 <luke-jr__> yes, but the default type is what you want for ext3
20:34 <spidey> 83*
20:35  * luke-jr__ doesn't worry about the #s
20:35 <luke-jr__> if you want swap, just hit enter at the type prompt =p
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20:46 <ghableska> wb Vanhayes
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21:16 <Vanhayes> ty ghableska
21:23 <spidey> hey Vanhayes
21:23 <spidey> Vanhayes, Vanhayes Vanhayes Vanhayes Vanhayes Vanhayes Vanhayes Vanhayes Vanhayes Vanhayes Vanhayes Vanhayes Vanhayes Vanhayes Vanhayes 
21:25 <wrtlprnft> http://www.icq.com/legal/policy.html
21:25 <wrtlprnft> > You agree that by posting any material or information anywhere on the ICQ Services and Information you surrender your copyright and any other proprietary right in the posted material or information. You further agree that ICQ Inc. is entitled to use at its own discretion any of the posted material or information in any manner it deems fit, including, but not limited to, publishing the material or distributing it.
21:25 <wrtlprnft> ok, that's it. no more ICQ
21:25 <wrtlprnft> that means it's illegal to post gpl code snippets on IRQ?
21:25 <wrtlprnft> *ICQ
21:26 <spidey> mmm
21:26 <spidey> sourceforge is somewhat the same
21:26 <spidey> well,it was about 2 years ago when i read there TOS
21:26 <wrtlprnft> well, the sourcecode is GPL'd, and I don't post anything there but GPL sources
21:28 <wrtlprnft> blic anyways, right?
21:28 <wrtlprnft> err
21:28 <wrtlprnft> and anyways, most stuff you post there is meant to be public anyways, right?
21:28 <wrtlprnft> not like a private conversation on ICQ/MSN/AIM/YIM/whatever
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21:37 <Vanhayes> spidey spidey spidey spidey spidey spidey spidey spidey spidey spidey spidey spidey spidey spidey spidey hello
21:45 <luke-jr__> wrtlprnft: the policy has no weight if you don't read it ;)
21:45 <luke-jr__> wrtlprnft: of course, if you sue em over it, they'll probably sue Kopete developers for not requiring agreement =p
21:46 <luke-jr__> of course, Kopete can just claim interoperability fair use and they're screwed since their server never sends the agreement to users
21:54 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr__: you need to read the license to register on their site
21:54 <wrtlprnft> and all kopete does is open the register page of icq
22:00 <spidey> Vanhayes, Vanhayes Vanhayes Vanhayes Vanhayes Vanhayes Vanhayes Vanhayes Vanhayes Vanhayes Vanhayes Vanhayes Vanhayes Vanhayes Vanhayes 
22:00 <spidey> Vanhayes, Vanhayes Vanhayes Vanhayes Vanhayes Vanhayes Vanhayes Vanhayes Vanhayes Vanhayes Vanhayes Vanhayes Vanhayes Vanhayes Vanhayes 
22:06 <wrtlprnft> Vanhayes spidey Vanhayes spidey Vanhayes spidey Vanhayes spidey Vanhayes spidey Vanhayes spidey Vanhayes spidey Vanhayes spidey Vanhayes spidey Vanhayes spidey Vanhayes spidey Vanhayes spidey
22:06  * wrtlprnft loves those conversations
22:06 <spidey> wrtlprnft, wrtlprnft wrtlprnft wrtlprnft wrtlprnft wrtlprnft wrtlprnft wrtlprnft, wrtlprnft wrtlprnft wrtlprnft wrtlprnft wrtlprnft wrtlprnft wrtlprnft, wrtlprnft wrtlprnft wrtlprnft wrtlprnft wrtlprnft wrtlprnft wrtlprnft, wrtlprnft wrtlprnft wrtlprnft wrtlprnft wrtlprnft wrtlprnft wrtlprnft, wrtlprnft wrtlprnft wrtlprnft wrtlprnft wrtlprnft wrtlprnft wrtlprnft, wrtlprnft wrtlprnft wrtlprnft wrtlprnft wrtlprnft wrtlprnft 
22:07 -!- You're now known as i_am_an_idiot
22:07 <i_am_an_idiot> try again now
22:07 <spidey> you_are_a_idiot you_are_a_idiot you_are_a_idiot you_are_a_idiot you_are_a_idiot you_are_a_idiot
22:07 <i_am_an_idiot> grammar wrong
22:07 <i_am_an_idiot> it's aN idiot
22:07 -!- You're now known as wrtlprnft
22:08 <spidey> i liked that
22:08 <spidey> i_am_an_idiot is now known as wrtlprnft  < LOL
22:08 -!- You're now known as SpideyTheIdiot
22:08  * SpideyTheIdiot 's gonna play a round of tron
22:09 -!- spidey is now known as wrtlprnft
22:09 <wrtlprnft> pwned
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22:10 <wrtlprnft> hi ghableska 
22:10 <ghableska> hi wrtlprnft
22:10 <wrtlprnft> how are you baby?
22:10 <ghableska> ...
22:10  * ghableska waves a hand in front of wrtlprnft's face
22:11 <wrtlprnft> i'm sorry i never told you before,i love you
22:11  * ghableska screams and runs away
22:11 <Vanhayes> wb ghableska
22:11 <ghableska> Vanhayes: help me
22:12 <Vanhayes> wrtlprnft= spidey
22:12 <wrtlprnft> LOL
22:12 <ghableska> oh
22:12  * ghableska slaps wrtlprnft
22:12 <Vanhayes> SpideyTheIdiot= wrtlprnft
22:12 <wrtlprnft> :p
22:12 <ghableska> grr
22:12 <Vanhayes> hope that clears things up
22:12 <ghableska> yes
22:12 <wrtlprnft> haha
22:12 <wrtlprnft> Vanhayes, you ruined my fun
22:12 <wrtlprnft> :(
22:12  * ghableska slaps wrtlprnft again for good measure
22:12 <Vanhayes> heh
22:13 <wrtlprnft> lkol
22:21 <wrtlprnft> fucking 6 fps in tron
22:21 <wrtlprnft> brb
22:23  * ghableska slaps wrtlprnft again
22:23 <ghableska> :P
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22:41 <ghableska> :P
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22:43 <spidey> i'm seriously getting ready to set fire to these computers
22:43 <ghableska> why?
22:43 <spidey> currupt files now
22:44 <spidey> have to boot to DOS and copy them from the CD's 
22:44 <spidey> to C:\
22:44 <spidey> clots of them @_@
22:45 <ghableska> set fire to them!
22:46  * spidey sighs
22:47  * ghableska slaps spidey
22:49 <spidey> lol
22:49 <spidey> i got access denied on copy hal.dl_ systemroot
22:49  * spidey is logged in as admin to
22:49 <spidey> O_o
22:50 <spidey> gah
22:50 <spidey> copied to wrong dir
22:54 <Vanhayes> hmm I'm thinking I shouldn't have put flags on for canada in the inter tron thing, people seems to be copying it
22:54 <spidey> pwned
22:54 <Vanhayes> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Inter_tron just for reference
22:56 <Vanhayes> but I guess thats what happens with nationalism and all
22:57 <ghableska> look at the colors on the bottom :(
22:58 <Vanhayes> heh ya
22:58 <ghableska> eww
22:58 <ghableska> it's not "pimped out"
22:59 <Vanhayes> at first all it was was the United staes of america coloured red white and blue then the green names now the flags too
22:59 <Vanhayes> hmm seems like overcompensating to me
22:59 <ghableska> they should just use black text..
23:00 <Vanhayes> yup
23:00 <ghableska> who picked green?
23:00 <Vanhayes> durka
23:01 <Vanhayes> he did it all but the flags I think
23:01 <ghableska> eugh
23:01 <ghableska> *blargh
23:01 <ghableska> :P
23:01 <Vanhayes> except for the black background, I think wrtlprnft aka SpideyTheIdiot did those
23:01 <Vanhayes> makes it easier to read white
23:02 <ghableska> mhmm
23:05 <Vanhayes> heh did you correct coutries with countries ghableska?
23:08 <ghableska> I did a little bit of spell checking, but then I gave up
23:10 <Vanhayes> heh ya i saw some of it, better than none though
23:18 <SpideyTheIdiot> o_O, i think i just caused a messed up start
23:19 <ghableska> nah
23:19 <ghableska> it went fine :P
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23:19 <SpideyTheIdiot> sec
23:19 <SpideyTheIdiot> aww
23:19 <SpideyTheIdiot> i sooo wanted to ghostkick wrtl-spidey
23:20 <ghableska> ;)
23:20 -!- You're now known as wrtlprnftz
23:20 -!- You're now known as wrtlprnft
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23:21 <spidey> sh: version: command not found
23:21 <spidey> O_o
23:21 <spidey> omg
23:21 <ghableska> lol
23:21 <wrtlprnft> Vanhayes: thanks for removing the canada colors :)
23:21 <spidey> Linux version 2.6.15-1-586tsc (Debian 2.6.15-3.ww1) (ww@mepis.org) (gcc version 4.0.3 20051201 (prerelease) (Debian 4.0.2-5)) #2 PREEMPT Wed Feb 1 17:40:51 EST 2006
23:21 <spidey> there!
23:21  * spidey hopes nothing goes wrong
23:22  * spidey really needs to label all these OS cd's
23:22 <ghableska> can I pleeease get rid of the green text?
23:22 <spidey> i have 2 mepis cd's 2 slackware(disk1&2) 1 ubuntu 1 windows 1 windows resource(drivers) 
23:22 <spidey> and none of them are labeled
23:22 <spidey> and all the same color
23:22 <spidey> O_o
23:23  * ghableska has already told spidey to label everything in sight
23:23 <spidey> tis a good idea
23:23 <spidey> but i don't have a perm. marker
23:23 <spidey> lol
23:23 <Vanhayes> wrtlprnft np it was getting too tacky with all the others doing it
23:24 <ghableska> lol
23:24 <Vanhayes> just made a page instead, hope thats fine
23:24  * ghableska wants to play for Canada because they don't have greent ext
23:24 <ghableska> *text
23:24 <Vanhayes> lol
23:25 <Vanhayes> hmm we need to find at least 2 other people who want to play from canada
23:25 <ghableska> mememe!
23:25 <ghableska> LO
23:25 <ghableska> um...
23:25 <ghableska> interesting
23:25 <Vanhayes> "from Canada"
23:25  * ghableska realizes that caps lock was on, but the light didn't show it
23:26 <ghableska> I'll pretend :P
23:26 <Vanhayes> lol
23:26 <Vanhayes> ya just say Eh alot and no one will notice
23:26 <ghableska> eh?
23:26 <ghableska> :)
23:26 <Vanhayes> lol
23:26 <ghableska> you don't say it :P
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23:27  * ghableska cringes just reading the top of the page
23:27 <Vanhayes> heh I dont type it, I say it quite a bit
23:27 <Vanhayes> hello z-man-home
23:28 <ghableska> "the way they will be is trying to join to another geo-near"
23:28 <ghableska> *shiver*
23:28 <Vanhayes> lol
23:29 <wrtlprnft> gah edit conflict
23:29 <ghableska> ?
23:29 <ghableska> worldcup isn't one word, is it?
23:29 <wrtlprnft> that happens in the wiki if someone edits a page while you're working on it
23:29 <ghableska> oh
23:29 <ghableska> must've been me :X
23:29 <Vanhayes> lol
23:30 <wrtlprnft> np
23:30 <ghableska> wow
23:30 <wrtlprnft> was an easy one, you just removed something
23:30 <ghableska> hyeheh well, actually i was going to thank you for fiddling with the wiki for ladle, but couldn't send a message since the forum didn't allow it and this is the only way i can think of getting into contact....
23:30 <ghableska> o.0
23:31 <wrtlprnft> i did anything for the ladle?
23:31 <ghableska> o_O
23:31 <ghableska> the mbc page?
23:31 <wrtlprnft> that was the spoon
23:32 <Vanhayes> the forum wouldnt allow you to send a message?
23:32 <ghableska> oh, yeah
23:32 <wrtlprnft> err, i don't think my inbox is full yet...
23:34 <Vanhayes> wo 2020 sent me a pm about me putting that IRC could be a usefull way to communicate for the ladle, and him taking it off, on june 24th and I didnt notice untill now
23:34 <ghableska> o.0
23:35  * wrtlprnft doesn't know why people seem to be scared of IRC
23:35 <ghableska> dunno
23:35 <wrtlprnft> heh, you get some of the nicest guys that play arma in here
23:36 <Vanhayes> heh plus spidey
23:36 <ghableska> "plus spidey" :P
23:36  * Vanhayes pokes spidey
23:36 <wrtlprnft> lololol
23:36 <Vanhayes> the only hard thing about IRC for me was finding a client I liked
23:36 <Vanhayes> took about 5 minutes to get it set up
23:36  * ghableska slaps spidey for the umpteenth time
23:37 <wrtlprnft> especially since you need cygwin to use the best client there is
23:37 <wrtlprnft> *on windows
23:37 <ghableska> Vanhayes: what client are you using?
23:38 <Vanhayes> mIRC again
23:38 <ghableska> eww
23:38 <ghableska> looks ugly :P
23:38 <Vanhayes> its funny the trial period was up then I got X chat which i liked alot, but that expired so I tried Mirc again and I have another 30 days
23:38 <ghableska> heh
23:39 <Vanhayes> ghableska you can change the look of it, I use mIRC power pack to make it look better
23:39 <wrtlprnft> get an opensource irc client...
23:39 <Vanhayes> looks alot like X chat now
23:40  * ghableska is using Trillian :P
23:40 <Vanhayes> wrtlprnft ive tried a bunch and the only one ive found that is decent is hydra
23:40 <Lucifer_arma> http://streams.davefancella.com:8000/
23:40 <Vanhayes> i didnt like trillian that much
23:40 <ghableska> it's decent
23:40 <Vanhayes> reminded me too much of msn messenger
23:40 <ghableska> bad memories?
23:41 <spidey> Vanhayes, 
23:41  * Vanhayes has refused to use msn messenger ever again
23:41 <spidey> Vanhayes, wanna know something i tried to explain to you along time ago?
23:41 <ghableska> Lucifer_arma: I still can't get your stream to work :-/
23:41 <wrtlprnft> works for me
23:41 <Vanhayes> spidey depends
23:41 <wrtlprnft> realplay
23:41 <spidey> Vanhayes, the mirc experiation period = fake
23:41 <spidey> you can still use it after it expires
23:41 <Vanhayes> explains alot
23:41 <spidey> just
23:42 <spidey> open it after it expires
23:42 <spidey> wait a minutes
23:42 <spidey> then click continue a few times
23:42 <spidey> and it'll be clickable
23:42 <Vanhayes> probly
23:42 <wrtlprnft> ghableska: it's very silent, so turn up the volume
23:42 <spidey> it will,i used to use it :p
23:42 <Vanhayes> ill have to wait 26 days to try
23:42 <spidey> well
23:42 <wrtlprnft> arma would blast my ears off with that volume setting
23:42 <spidey> if you want i can get you a key for it
23:42 <ghableska> :P
23:42 <Vanhayes> can you get me a key for x chat?
23:43 <spidey> mm
23:43 <spidey> dunno,i use the version that's free
23:43 <spidey> lol
23:43  * ghableska heard a loud click
23:43 <spidey> on windows anyways
23:43 <Vanhayes> tried to get a torrent of it but no seeders
23:43 <spidey> sec
23:43 <spidey> i'ma try something
23:43 <spidey> you have winrar?
23:44 <Vanhayes> no but something like it
23:44 <spidey> can you extract .tgz ?
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23:44 <Vanhayes> i think so hold on ill check
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23:45 <ghableska> oops :X
23:45 <Vanhayes> wb ghableska
23:45 <spidey> nvm
23:45 <spidey> i can make a .zip
23:45  * wrtlprnft listens to Lucifer_arma while he reads the latest trolling on some kernel hole on heise security
23:46 <ghableska> o.0
23:46 <wrtlprnft> come on, a security hole that requires you to plug in a modified usb cdrom drive to the usb port?!
23:46 <wrtlprnft> if i have that kind of access i take out the harddrive and disappear
23:47 <Vanhayes> spidey no I dont think it can extract .tgz
23:47 <wrtlprnft> o_O
23:47 <Vanhayes> .zip it can of course tho
23:47 <wrtlprnft> get a real unzipper
23:48 <spidey> winrar will do it
23:48 <spidey> but don't worry i made it a .zip :p
23:48 <wrtlprnft> http://filzip.com/en/index.html
23:49 <spidey> ok
23:49 <spidey> www.fallin-angels.com/X-Cat.zip
23:49 <spidey> no
23:49 <spidey> www.fallin-angels.com/X-Chat.zip
23:49 <spidey> you don't have to install it
23:49 <spidey> just launch it from the folder
23:49 <spidey> umm
23:49 <spidey> hold on
23:49 <spidey> lol
23:49 <Vanhayes> ya
23:50 <spidey> ok reuploading O_o
23:51 <wrtlprnft> looks like Lucifer_arma just made a short pause
23:51 <spidey> i'm not good with scp,so sometimes i send to the wrong dir
23:51 <spidey> lol
23:51 <wrtlprnft> like 3 seconds
23:51 <Vanhayes> wrtlprnft it says that unzipper doesnt do .tgx either
23:52 <Vanhayes> .tgz*
23:52  * spidey can't hear lucifer
23:52 <spidey> O_o
23:52 <wrtlprnft> support for .ace, .arc. arj, .cab, .gz, .lha, .jar, .rar, .tar and of course .zip
23:52 <wrtlprnft> .tgz is nothing but .tar.gz
23:52 <wrtlprnft> just a short form
23:53 <wrtlprnft> it is a .tar arhive that's packed into a gzip file
23:53 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma jsut blew off my ears
23:53 <spidey> van
23:53 <spidey> http://www.fallin-angels.com/X-Chat.zip
23:54 <spidey> if that doesn't work
23:54 <spidey> i'll upload the other one
23:54 <spidey> i have 2,one's a better version
23:55 <spidey> which is the one i just uploaded
23:55 <Vanhayes> is this the better one?
23:55 <spidey> yea
23:55 <spidey> it has highlights
23:55 <Vanhayes> ya its unzipping
23:55 <spidey> displays when someone says your name
23:55 <spidey> etc
23:55 <Lucifer_arma> sorry
23:55 <Lucifer_arma> fingers got tired, thought I'd rest 'em on my guitar :)
23:55 <Vanhayes> spidey um what version is it?
23:55 <spidey> not sure
23:55 <spidey> it work?
23:56 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: np
23:56 <spidey> i think it's 2.6.2
23:56 <spidey> O_o
23:56 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: anything else coming or can i go to bed now?
23:57 <wrtlprnft> anything but static i mean o_O
23:57 <Lucifer_arma> you dont' hear any guitar?
23:57 <wrtlprnft> not right now
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23:57 <Vanhayes_> ya it works spidey 
23:57 <spidey> :)
23:57 <wrtlprnft> i heard something before
23:58 <Lucifer_arma> I hear guitar
23:58 <Lucifer_arma> there is a bit of a delay though
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23:58 <wrtlprnft> must be quite a bit of delay
23:58 -!- Vanhayes_ is now known as Vanhayes
23:59 <Lucifer_arma> you only hear static?  that's kinda weird....
23:59 <Vanhayes> thank you spidey
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23:59 <Lucifer_arma> turn it down maybe?
23:59 <spidey> np
23:59 <spidey> Vanhayes,
23:59 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: down? now i hear nothing
23:59 <spidey> you get a display?

Log from 2006-07-09:
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00:00 <Lucifer_arma> delay's about 3-5 seconds, maybe a bit longer
00:00 <Vanhayes> a display of that trial thing?
00:00 <Vanhayes> no
00:00 -!- z-man-home [n=manuel@p50872AE7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron
00:00 <spidey> no
00:00 <wrtlprnft> Day changed to 09 Jul 2006
00:00 -!- z-man-home is now known as z-man
00:00 <spidey> ok
00:00 <wrtlprnft> something tells me i should go to bed now
00:00 <ghableska> :P
00:00 <spidey> minimize the client,it should goto the system tray
00:00 <spidey> beside the clock
00:01 <Lucifer_arma> heh, probably
00:01 <spidey> then when i say Vanhayes a yellow box will pop-up
00:01 <Vanhayes> doesnt
00:01 <spidey> O_o
00:01 <Lucifer_arma> there's guitar, and I'm hearing it on my client, so I don't know what to do
00:01 <spidey> maybe i sent the wrong one
00:01 <Vanhayes> it is version 2.6.2 which is the newest I think
00:02 <spidey> mm
00:02 <spidey> i'm scared to reboot
00:02 <spidey> lol
00:03 <spidey> that's when everything fucks up
00:03 <Vanhayes> lol
00:03 <spidey> and i just edited the xorg.conf
00:03 <ghableska> o.0
00:03 <spidey> maybe i can just kill the xserver and call it even
00:03 <spidey> brb
00:03 <Vanhayes> btw wrtlprnft I use this unzipper it is pretty good
00:03 -!- spidey [n=spidey@68-119-125-64.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has quit ["Leaving"]
00:03 <Vanhayes> http://www.7-zip.org/
00:04 <wrtlprnft> #u
00:04 <armabot> spidey: 00:04:33 up 78 days, 8 min, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
00:05  * wrtlprnft doesn't use any windoze unzipper unless he really has to
00:06 <wrtlprnft> aww i used windoze again, Lucifer_arma's gonna hate me
00:07 <Lucifer_arma> nah, not if you could figure out why ghableska can't hear my stream :)
00:07 <ghableska> :)
00:07 <Lucifer_arma> what media player are you using ghableska ?
00:07 <ghableska> iTunes
00:07  * wrtlprnft currently hears a low hum
00:07 <Lucifer_arma> well, nt playing right now
00:08 <Vanhayes> wanna paste that link again?
00:08 <wrtlprnft> #last --with 8000
00:08 <armabot> wrtlprnft: [16:40:31] <Lucifer_arma> http://streams.davefancella.com:8000/
00:08 <Vanhayes> ty
00:09 <wrtlprnft> now i hear something
00:09 <Vanhayes> works with amp pretty good
00:10  * ghableska still doesn't hear anything
00:10  * Vanhayes pokes ghableska 
00:10  * wrtlprnft wonders how it must feel to play with headphones on, hearing whatever you play lagged behind 3 seconds
00:10 <Vanhayes> lol
00:11 <wrtlprnft> like, good headphones that don't let any noise from outside thru
00:11 <Lucifer_arma> I turned off my media client, I'm hearing the guitar directly now :)
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00:18 <Lucifer_arma> ummm, how does that song go?
00:18 <spidey> note,killing x doesn't count as restarting it
00:18 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: sounds ok
00:19 <Vanhayes> hmm
00:19 <wrtlprnft> that's not you playing i guess as you're writing right now
00:19  * Vanhayes me
00:19 <Lucifer_arma> it's always me playing.....  ;)
00:19 <wrtlprnft> really
00:19 <Vanhayes> wo wrtlprnft has lots of lagg
00:19 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, just that there's a long delay
00:19 <wrtlprnft> are you playing with your toeas and chatting with your hands or is it the other ways
00:19 <wrtlprnft> -s
00:19 <wrtlprnft> ?
00:20 <wrtlprnft> *toes
00:20 <ghableska> :P
00:20 <ghableska> talent ;)
00:20 <Vanhayes> lol
00:21  * Vanhayes is away: I'm busy
00:21  * Vanhayes is back (gone 00:00:03)
00:21 <Vanhayes> hmm
00:21 <spidey> lol
00:21  * wrtlprnft hates those auto /me is away: things
00:21 <Vanhayes> how come it wont let me go away with ctrl+a anymore?
00:21 <spidey> dunno
00:21 <wrtlprnft> there is a /away command that lets you supply a reason, that's enough
00:22  * Vanhayes is away: dun dun dun
00:22  * Vanhayes is back (gone 00:00:03)
00:22 <spidey> O_o
00:22 <Vanhayes> lol
00:22 <spidey> it doesn't work for me O_o
00:22  * wrtlprnft hates changing nicks too, like SD_away, spidey|zzz etc
00:22 <Vanhayes> hmm and the little arrow before the /me thing is now a little box
00:22 <ghableska> :P
00:23 -!- spidey is now known as spidey|zzz
00:23  * Vanhayes test
00:23 <Vanhayes> hmm
00:23 <spidey|zzz> test 2
00:23 -!- spidey|zzz is now known as spidey
00:23 <spidey> i wish i could remember the password to this name
00:23 <wrtlprnft> you should have linked them :P
00:23 <spidey> i registered it years ago
00:24 <Vanhayes> wait, for spidey?
00:24 <spidey> no,this name was registered years ago
00:24 <spidey> yea
00:24 <Vanhayes> lol
00:24 <Vanhayes> play o canada instead
00:24 <wrtlprnft> talk to a staff member, guy
00:24 <wrtlprnft> #canada2
00:24 <Vanhayes> Lucifer_arma,  play o canada instead
00:24 <spidey> there's a channel #lame i used to go in
00:24 <armabot> O Canada! Our home and native land! | True patriot love in all thy sons command. | With glowing hearts we see thee rise, | The True North strong and free! | From far and wide, O Canada, | We stand on guard for thee. | God keep our land glorious and free! | O Canada, we stand on guard for thee! | O Canada, we stand on guard for thee!
00:25 <spidey> although i don't go in there anymore cause i don't like any of the people
00:25 <Lucifer_arma> heh, forgot the rest
00:25 <Vanhayes> ha
00:25 <wrtlprnft> spidey: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#helpfromstaff
00:25 <wrtlprnft> omg
00:25 <wrtlprnft> just heard that try
00:26 <Vanhayes> hmm that sounds like star trek
00:26 <ghableska> O_o
00:26 <spidey>     /stats p
00:26 <Vanhayes> I didnt like that show very much
00:26 <spidey> er
00:26  * ghableska wishes he could hear
00:26 <Lucifer_arma> man, I barely remember how to play that
00:26 <Lucifer_arma> heh
00:26 <wrtlprnft> http://megacitychorus.com/audio/O'_Canada.mp3
00:26 <Lucifer_arma> (it is star trek :)  )
00:26 <Vanhayes> lol
00:27 <Lucifer_arma> ack!
00:27 <Lucifer_arma> I had it all worked out!  :(
00:28 <Lucifer_arma> the imperial march sounds really nice if I could fucking play it
00:29  * ghableska gets mental image of darth vader
00:31 <Vanhayes> hmm wonder what the winamp plugin does
00:31 <spidey> (15:30:39) yahoohelper: Hi center.cen, visit www.y-source.com for our new update for yahoo messenger which allows you to view webcams and many other exciting features.
00:31 <spidey> wtf
00:31 <spidey> O_o
00:32 <Vanhayes> spidey, I had to load that plugin for it to minimize to the system tray
00:33 <spidey> ah
00:33 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/ocanada.ogg <-- fancy o canada
00:33 <spidey> yea there's plugins
00:33 <spidey> i forgot i loaded them in mine
00:33 <Vanhayes> what does the winamp one do?
00:33 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I'm done
00:33 <spidey> man
00:33 <spidey> i registered this name so long ago
00:33 <spidey> it's expired
00:34 <spidey> lol
00:34 <wrtlprnft> that means?
00:34 <Vanhayes> they can expire?
00:34 <wrtlprnft> you can just register it again?
00:34 <spidey> alindeman I can just drop it if you want
00:34 <spidey> alindeman So you can reregister (it's expired
00:34 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, if you don't use it often enough
00:34 <spidey> if they don't get used for years they expire
00:34 <spidey> lol
00:34 <wrtlprnft> spidey: that's why i told you to ask a staffer ;)
00:34 <Lucifer_arma> Vanhayes: find me some tab or sheet music for O Canada and I'll learn it
00:35 <wrtlprnft> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O_Canada#External_links <-- a piano arrangement, no clue if that helps for a guitar player
00:35  * wrtlprnft once tried to overlay the two versions of o canada he linked to and failed
00:35 <wrtlprnft> they just don't fit together :(
00:37  * Lucifer_arma can read sheet music, so a piano arrangement will probably work
00:37 <Vanhayes> #uptime
00:37 <armabot> spidey: 00:36:57 up 78 days, 40 min, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.08, 0.19
00:37 <wrtlprnft> uh, now i can't restart your stream Lucifer_arma 
00:37 <spidey>  15:37:37 up 24 min,  1 user,  load average: 0.24, 0.26, 0.25
00:37 <wrtlprnft> 24 min?!
00:37 <Lucifer_arma> that's because I shut it down
00:37 <Vanhayes> how do i get my uptime?
00:37 <wrtlprnft> ah ok
00:37 <spidey> had to restart for a xorg config to take affect
00:37 <Lucifer_arma> sorry, it doesn't run all the time
00:37 <wrtlprnft> err
00:37 <spidey> Vanhayes, it's only for nix
00:37 <spidey> :p
00:38 <wrtlprnft> spidey: you can just restart x then?
00:38 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: i guessed that
00:38 <spidey> i did
00:38 <spidey> but kde fucked up
00:38 <Vanhayes> then what does this uptime script do?
00:38 <spidey> so i restarted
00:38 <spidey> oh
00:38 <spidey> do /uptime
00:38 <Lucifer_arma> I've got it setup to save what I play, one of these days I'll probably get practicing with drums and various mixes, then I'll probably have a stream that runs all the time
00:38 -!- wejp [n=j0hannes@i577B82B9.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
00:38 <wrtlprnft> Vanhayes: it shows the uptime of my server
00:38 <spidey> see what it says
00:38 <Vanhayes> nothing
00:38 <spidey> Vanhayes, i have a NICE modded mirc client you can use
00:38 <spidey> if you want it
00:39 <Vanhayes> what is modded on it?
00:39 <spidey> it shows uptime
00:39 <spidey> os info
00:39 <spidey> nic card info
00:39 <spidey> extc
00:39 <spidey> lots of options
00:39 <wrtlprnft> there's a nice modded bot in here that does the same
00:39 <Vanhayes> meh, I dont really need any of that
00:39 <spidey> wrtlprnft, we're talking about a client..not a bot :p
00:39 <wrtlprnft> so?
00:39  * Vanhayes pokes armabot 
00:39 <ghableska> :P
00:40 <wrtlprnft> why would my client need to give away information about me
00:40 <wrtlprnft> ?
00:40 <wrtlprnft> that's what CTCP is for, if you want it
00:40 <Vanhayes> #poke armabot 
00:40 <armabot> I don't have a pointy stick...
00:40 <Lucifer_arma> I bookmarked that easybyte page, there's lots of songs on there I'd like to fool with :)
00:40 <Vanhayes> er wait that upyime works but not in channel
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00:41 <Vanhayes> it only works to tell how long freenode server is up for
00:42 <spidey> lol
00:42 <Vanhayes> Server Up 13 days, 18:26:30
00:42 <Vanhayes> * Highest connection count: 6584 (6583 clients) (131609 since server was (re)started)
00:42 <spidey> O_o
00:43 <wrtlprnft> does windows even have an uptime command?
00:43 <wrtlprnft> #u
00:43 <armabot> spidey: 00:43:00 up 78 days, 46 min, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.12
00:43 <spidey> no
00:43 <wrtlprnft> that clock needs some adjusting
00:43 <spidey> but you could do like i did
00:43 <wrtlprnft> 23 seconds ahead
00:43 <spidey> my windows install was close to nix
00:43 <spidey> ls listed directories
00:43 <wrtlprnft> install cygwin :P
00:43 <spidey> i could compile
00:43 <spidey> etc
00:44 <spidey> i want to install kde on windows
00:44 <spidey> lol
00:44 <wrtlprnft> bah
00:44 <spidey> wanna bet i can do it? :p
00:44 <wrtlprnft> uh, people have tried
00:44 <wrtlprnft> it's kdelibs that isn't easy to port iirc
00:44 <spidey> but i haven't yet :p
00:46  * spidey attempts it
00:47  * ghableska watches
00:47 <spidey> O_o
00:47 <ghableska> :P
00:49 <wrtlprnft> at least that was when i was trying to find out if there was any chance of getting kopete ported anytime soon
00:49 <Lucifer_arma> heh, they've gto God Save the Queen
00:49 <wrtlprnft> bah
00:49 <Lucifer_arma> somehow I don't think it's the SEx pistols song either
00:49 <ghableska> O_o
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00:50 <Vanhayes_> spidey, you didnt have xchat you had Xchat 2
00:51 <wrtlprnft> spidey: where's your port now? I'm waiting!
00:52 <spidey> lol
00:52 <Vanhayes_> Xchat 2 seeems to be a completely free one that looks exactally like Xchat
00:52 <wrtlprnft> #night
00:52 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
00:53 <ghableska> cya
00:53  * Vanhayes_ kicks Vanhayes 
00:53 <Vanhayes_> cya
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00:58 <Lucifer_arma> http://streams.davefancella.com:8000/stuff.ogg.m3u  <--- here's a stream I"ll leave running for a little while
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01:07 <mkzelda> im tuned in
01:07 <spidey> are not
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01:07 <ghableska> O_o
01:07 -!- Vanhayes_ is now known as Vanhayes
01:08 <mkzelda> sounds like a snes game
01:09 <mkzelda> isnt imperial march some famous piece played backwards?
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01:09 <mkzelda> or segments of it
01:12 <mkzelda> haha, something about that music is making my dogs sniff the speakers
01:13 <mkzelda> thats some smelly music luci
01:15  * Vanhayes is away: 
01:15  * Vanhayes is away: 
01:15  * Vanhayes is away: 
01:15 <Vanhayes> hmm
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01:19  * Vanhayes test
01:19 <Vanhayes> er
01:20  * Vanhayes test
01:20 <Lucifer_arma> one of the songs on the list is the midi song I wrote for Crimson Fields
01:20 <spidey> lol
01:20 <Lucifer_arma> rendered to ogg vorbis with timidity
01:21 <spidey> [spidey] (n=spidey@unaffiliated/mcspiddles
01:21 <spidey> O_o
01:22 <Vanhayes> #echo /action is me
01:22 <armabot> /action is me
01:22 <spidey> #echo "#action lol"
01:22 <armabot> #action lol
01:22 <spidey> O_o
01:22 <spidey> #action lol
01:23 <spidey> mm
01:23 <Vanhayes> #echo "/action is me"
01:23 <armabot> /action is me
01:23 <Vanhayes> bah
01:23 <spidey> lol
01:23 <spidey> man these mirrors are slo
01:23 <spidey> slow
01:23  * spidey is downloading the xserver packages and kde
01:23 <spidey> for the windows box O_o
01:24 <Vanhayes> something
01:24 <Vanhayes> heh
01:27 <spidey> almost done downloading
01:27 <spidey> worse case,i'll have lots of junk that'll take me months to remove
01:27 <spidey> best case i have kde on windows :p
01:29 <Vanhayes> id say its gonna turn out to be worst case
01:29 <spidey> knowing my luck
01:29 <spidey> probably
01:31 <Lucifer_arma> #action kicks spidey
01:33 <mkzelda> yea but the worst case sounds like windows on any other day
01:34 <spidey> lol
01:34 <spidey> looky there
01:34 <mkzelda> this is a great amon tobin mix
01:34 <spidey> i got x installed :p
01:36 <mkzelda> amon makes breaks from spitting and farting
01:36 <mkzelda> sounds, that is
01:36 <mkzelda> beans beans the musical fruit
01:36 <Lucifer_arma> amon tobin mix?
01:37 <mkzelda> its a breezeblock session from 2000
01:37 <mkzelda> charlie brown sample
01:37 <mkzelda> "i got a rock"
01:39 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, install hydrogen or write a drum sequencer?
01:39 <Lucifer_arma> because hydrogen doesn't do enough for me....
01:40  * Lucifer_arma decides on a drum sequencer for some reason
01:45 <spidey> xserver installed
01:45 <spidey> now for kde
01:50 <spidey> man this hurts my neck
01:50  * spidey finds another place for the other monitor
01:52 <luke-jr__> spidey: I suggest *not* 'emerge kde' ever =p
01:52 <spidey> why?
01:52 <luke-jr__> I suggest 'emerge kdebase-meta' and from there individual apps, like 'emerge kmail'
01:52 <luke-jr__> emerging the full KDE is way more than you'll care for
01:52 <luke-jr__> I mean, do you really need a Mr. Potato Head game?
01:52 <luke-jr__> Not to mention the compile time
01:53 <spidey> lol
01:53 <luke-jr__> and how many people want to learn *both* Japanese and Latin?
01:54 <luke-jr__> BTW, KDE 3 doesn't work on Windows
01:54 <luke-jr__> only KDE 4+
01:55 <luke-jr__> did you give up on Gentoo and *nix in general?
01:55 <spidey> cat /proc/version
01:55 <spidey> er
01:55 <spidey> Linux version 2.6.15-1-586tsc (Debian 2.6.15-3.ww1) (ww@mepis.org) (gcc version 4.0.3 20051201 (prerelease) (Debian 4.0.2-5)) #2 PREEMPT Wed Feb 1 17:40:51 EST 2006
01:55 <spidey> anyways
01:56 <spidey> kde3 runs on windows
01:56 <spidey> http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net/kde3/
01:56 <luke-jr__> it doesn't completely work
01:56 <luke-jr__> not even on OS X, which has a Qt 3 port
01:56 <luke-jr__> partially because KDE 3 requires X11
01:57 <spidey> um....
01:57 <spidey> i've done installed X11 :)
01:57 <spidey> cygwin has X11 for windows
01:57 <spidey> which runs as Xwin.exe
01:57 <spidey> :p
01:57 <luke-jr__> that's not really Windows then
01:57 <luke-jr__> =p
01:57 <spidey> lol
02:00  * spidey hates those old ass mice that use balls
02:00 <spidey> mm
02:00 <spidey> gentoo deluxe or debian
02:00  * spidey ponders
02:00 <spidey> i'll do debian this time
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02:32 <spidey> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=27249
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03:16 <spidey> zomg :p
03:16 <Fonkay> boom
03:16 <spidey> pow
03:16 <Fonkay> that was easier than expected
03:16 <spidey> LOL
03:16 <spidey> yar it's not hard to use :p
03:17 <Fonkay> i had left out the whole freenode part :/
03:17 <spidey> lmao
03:17 <Fonkay> I'm computer stupid, what can I say
03:18 <spidey> say
03:18 <spidey> boom
03:18 <Lucifer_arma> hi
03:18 <Fonkay> hi
03:18  * spidey is confused
03:18 <spidey> xterm in cygwin sees the kde package i extracted
03:18 <Fonkay> I thought everyone was afk or something to that affect
03:19 <spidey> but when i try to view the dir with iexporer
03:19 <spidey> it doesn't see them
03:19 <spidey> O_o
03:19 <Vanhayes> hello Fonkay 
03:19 <Fonkay> hey canuck
03:20 <Vanhayes> heh
03:20 <Vanhayes> #canada2
03:20 <armabot> O Canada! Our home and native land! | True patriot love in all thy sons command. | With glowing hearts we see thee rise, | The True North strong and free! | From far and wide, O Canada, | We stand on guard for thee. | God keep our land glorious and free! | O Canada, we stand on guard for thee! | O Canada, we stand on guard for thee!
03:20 <spidey> bah
03:20 <Fonkay> really I'm not sure why i have IRC, this really isn't my place
03:20 <spidey> #help Vanhayes
03:20 <armabot> spidey: (vanhayes <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo Vanhayes doesnt like it when $who says his name.".
03:20 <spidey> O_o
03:20 <Vanhayes> #vanhayes
03:20 <armabot> Vanhayes doesnt like it when Vanhayes says his name.
03:21 <Vanhayes> heh got rid of as many spam things as I could find
03:21 <spidey> #Vanhayes
03:21 <armabot> Vanhayes = the sux
03:21 <Vanhayes> grr
03:21 <spidey> better
03:21 <Vanhayes> #fluffy
03:21 <armabot> The operation succeeded.
03:21 <spidey> ?
03:21 <Vanhayes> grr
03:21  * Fonkay is confused
03:21 <Vanhayes> there is a new one
03:21 <spidey> #help Fluffy
03:21 <armabot> spidey: (fluffy <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "spam $*".
03:21 <spidey> O_o
03:21 <spidey> #list alias
03:22 <armabot> spidey: #, 42, add, admin, all, answer, anvil, armabot, armabot,, b, barf, bug, canada, canada2, ch, chatlog, clash, coin, digg, dotdotdot, eightballs, eliza, f, fe, fluffy, fortune, g, gcalc, goodbye, hello, help, hose, ignoreme, insight, it's, joke, knock, less, lipsum, lock, log, log, lotto, lucifer, luciferarma, lukejr, m, man, mashuffle, message, mfaq, missed, morning, night, pang, parrot, (1 more message)
03:22 <Vanhayes> Fonkay, armabot  is Lucifer_arma's IRC bot
03:22 <Vanhayes> it does all this stuff
03:22 <spidey> mmm
03:22 <Vanhayes> just have to put # infront of the command
03:22 <spidey> #help lucifer
03:22 <armabot> spidey: (lucifer <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo Teh #1 Redneck!".
03:22 <Vanhayes> fixed that one
03:22 <spidey> #help luciferarma
03:22 <armabot> spidey: (luciferarma <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "spam $*".
03:22 <spidey> eek
03:23 <spidey> who changed them?
03:23 <Vanhayes> no clue
03:23 <spidey> wan't me...i was banned from it when it happened :p
03:23  * spidey looks at wrtlprnft 
03:23 <Vanhayes> no
03:23 <Vanhayes> could be just some random guy
03:23 <spidey> maybe
03:23 <Fonkay> god damn player
03:23 <Vanhayes> ?
03:24 <Fonkay> music player is all fucked up fro some reason
03:24 <Vanhayes> is it winamp?
03:24 <Fonkay> it plays one song, and then freezes up and dies
03:24 <Fonkay> no!
03:24 <Vanhayes> winamp is hating me right now
03:24 <spidey> wmp?
03:24 <Fonkay> no winamp or wmp
03:24 <spidey> mmm
03:24 <spidey> musicmatch?
03:24 <Fonkay> it's some other thing
03:24 <Fonkay> quintessential player
03:25 <spidey> wtf's that
03:25 <spidey> O_o
03:25 <Fonkay> it was the one that took up the least amout of CPU usage
03:25 <Fonkay> it's like 2% usage, when it works
03:25 <spidey> appearently it sucks :p
03:25 <Fonkay> so it doesn't freeze up my game when i'm litening and playing
03:25 <Fonkay> it worked fine until a few weeks ago
03:26 <spidey> um
03:26 <spidey> why does the amount of cpu it uses matter?
03:26 <Fonkay> and it plays CD's fine.. but all the CD's i have ripped to my computer don't seem to play well
03:26 <spidey> cds scratched?
03:26 <Fonkay> i think it's the [playlists that's doing it
03:26 <Fonkay> what?
03:27  * spidey ripped some scratched cd's and i somehow got half a song at the beginning
03:27 <spidey> and half another song at the end
03:27 <Fonkay> no, the songs are fine
03:27 <Fonkay> the whole song plays.... then it freezes for a sec, and then stops playing the rest of the play list
03:27 <Vanhayes> who uses CD's on a computer?
03:28 <Fonkay> and i  have to exit and reload for it to work again
03:28 <Fonkay> they're not CD's they're CD's that have been ripped onto my compter
03:28 <Vanhayes> heh was talking to spidey
03:28 <Fonkay> oh
03:29 <spidey> Vanhayes, ummm..wtf you on about?
03:29 <Fonkay> so is no one playing arma then?
03:29 <Vanhayes> I am
03:30 <Fonkay> god damnmy compter has gone to shit
03:30 <Vanhayes> I am in bugfarm as :^
03:30 <Fonkay> damn my*
03:31 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
03:31 <armabot> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (8 players) || XzL. Clan "The Server" (8 players) || Swampland in 2.7.1 (5 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Dogfight (4 players) || ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Arena {100MBit} (4 players) || Norm's Place (4 players) || Mutiny Clan Server (3 players) || RaceToWinzone (Testversion) (2 players) || Bugfarm Fortress (2 players) || M0rph1umDuckz D3d1cat3d (1 more message)
03:31  * Lucifer_arma is making stir-fried chicken and pineapple
03:31 -!- Lucifer_arma is now known as LuciEatsPeople
03:31 <Fonkay> yummy
03:31 <spidey> well wtf
03:31 <Fonkay> i had a makeshift fajita for lunch
03:32 <Fonkay> it wasn't very good though
03:32 <Vanhayes> I had pity bread with pork on it
03:32 <Vanhayes> pita*
03:32 <Vanhayes> heh pity bread
03:32 <Fonkay> hehe pity bread
03:32 <spidey> w3rd
03:32 <Fonkay> oh my, I'm starting to think like hayes... bad sign
03:33 <Fonkay> oo, it worked
03:33 <LuciEatsPeople> what's my favorite tv show?!?
03:33 <spidey> i love luci?
03:33 <LuciEatsPeople> that might be it, lemme try it
03:33 <spidey> lol
03:33 <Fonkay> brb
03:33 <LuciEatsPeople> I'm just guessing :(
03:33 <spidey> ?
03:34 <Fonkay> guessing passwords?
03:34 <Vanhayes> lol
03:35  * Vanhayes uses the same password for everything
03:35 <Fonkay> not good
03:35 <spidey> Vanhayes, so do i
03:35 <spidey> except my computer
03:35 <spidey> i have 3 passwords
03:35 <spidey> 1 to boot it you have to have a password
03:35 <spidey> to change the boot password you have to have the bios password
03:35 <Fonkay> i use the same 4 # code for all my bank accounts
03:36 <spidey> to login to the os you have to have the os password
03:36 <Vanhayes> I mean I use the same password for every signle thing
03:36 <spidey> then to actually do anything from there you have to have the root password: p
03:36 <Vanhayes> I just dont have anything Im scared someone will take
03:36 <Fonkay> even for the bank?
03:36 <spidey> me either
03:36 <spidey> but
03:36 <spidey> i don't like peoples on my computer :p
03:36 <spidey> i fuck it up enough myself
03:36 <spidey> moreless someone else adding to it
03:36 <spidey> lol
03:37 <Vanhayes> even fo the bank
03:37 <Fonkay> i don't have my own computer
03:37 <Vanhayes> tho I only use four out of it
03:37 <Fonkay> unfortunately
03:37 <LuciEatsPeople> now I have to apply for a new pin :(
03:37  * spidey has 2 computers
03:37 <spidey> lol
03:37 <LuciEatsPeople> this is for my fafsa--financial aid for college, so it's a pin I only use once a year
03:37 <spidey> LuciEatsPeople, what you doing?
03:37 <Fonkay> you can't even guess your own fav TV show?
03:37 <spidey> oh
03:37 <LuciEatsPeople> I hate tv!
03:38  * spidey doesn't watch tv
03:38 <LuciEatsPeople> so I tried "tv sucks" "fuck tv", "Red Dwarf" etc
03:38 <spidey> i have p2p clients for that
03:38 <Fonkay> maybe it's something the kids watch
03:38 <LuciEatsPeople> I love Luci and I love Lucifer
03:38 <spidey> LOL
03:39 <Fonkay> god i hate when my dad's music gets mixed in with mine
03:39 <Vanhayes> what kind of music?
03:39 <Fonkay> my dad's?
03:39 <Vanhayes> er ya
03:40 <Vanhayes> heh question was sort of vague
03:40 <LuciEatsPeople> now I have to wait three days :(
03:40 <Fonkay> well, he has some weird shit on here
03:40 <Fonkay> actually, i think it might be my mom's music
03:40 <spidey> weird
03:40 <spidey> ls sees the dir
03:40 <spidey> so i cd qt3
03:40 <Fonkay> like wynonna judd /me barfs
03:40 <LuciEatsPeople> http://streams.davefancella.com:8000/stuff.ogg.m3u  <--- here's a stream I"ll leave running for a little while
03:40 <spidey> it says it doesn't exsist O_o
03:40  * LuciEatsPeople is a spammer
03:40 <spidey> s
03:40 <spidey> p
03:40 <spidey> a
03:40 <spidey> m
03:40 <Vanhayes> lol
03:41 <Vanhayes> wynona judge sounds old
03:41 <Fonkay> right now im listening to APC
03:41 <Vanhayes> 0_o I have -1 in CT
03:41 <Vanhayes> APC?
03:41 <Vanhayes> sounds familiar
03:41 <LuciEatsPeople> heh, it's playing the Crimson Fields song
03:41 <Fonkay> A perfect Circle
03:42 <Vanhayes> ya thats it
03:42 <Fonkay> it's like an angry version of Tool
03:42 <spidey> woot
03:42 <Fonkay> not that Tool is cool calm and collected
03:42 <spidey> |----| this close to kde on windows
03:43 <spidey> if i'd pay more attention to the other computer i'd have it already :/
03:43 <Fonkay> sounds like a waste of time to me spidey
03:43 <spidey> maybe
03:43 <LuciEatsPeople> yeah, why bother getting kde to run in windows when it runs fine in linux?
03:43 <spidey> cause i wanna
03:43 <spidey> and wrtl basically said i couldn't
03:43 <spidey> so i am :p
03:44 <Vanhayes> sound like a complete waste of time to me
03:44 <Fonkay> did you go to the link i sent you spidey?
03:44 <spidey> ummm
03:44 <spidey> you do realize all i do EVERY day is waste time
03:44 <spidey> ?
03:44 <spidey> right
03:44 <spidey> Fonkay, yar
03:44 <Fonkay> yar?
03:44 <spidey> yea
03:44 <Fonkay> what are you a pirate?
03:45 <Vanhayes> Hi ho mateys eh spidey?
03:46 <Vanhayes> hmm that sounded less stupid in my head
03:46 <spidey> ar
03:46 <Fonkay> hehe, lock stock and two smoking barrels was on my music playlist
03:46 <spidey> sliver me timbers
03:46 <spidey> O_o
03:46 <Vanhayes> shiver u mean?
03:46 <Fonkay> shiver*
03:46 <spidey> w/e
03:47 <Fonkay> so what exaclt are the commands for this thing?
03:47 <Fonkay> exactly*
03:47 <LuciEatsPeople> same as in arma
03:47 <LuciEatsPeople> so /team message only sends a message to your team :)
03:47 <Fonkay> ok, easy enough
03:47 <spidey> haha
03:48  * Vanhayes tried it and it didnt work
03:48 <Fonkay> i can shuffle? yay!
03:48 <spidey> * team :Unknown command
03:48 <spidey>  /team Vanhayes = the sux
03:48 <Vanhayes> #shuffle f o n k a y
03:48 <armabot> Vanhayes: a o f y n k
03:48 <Vanhayes> heh
03:48 <Fonkay> nice
03:48 <LuciEatsPeople> my stream seems to have stopped
03:49 <Fonkay> i should be sleeping
03:49 <spidey> #shuffle s u p e r c a l a f r a g a l i s t i c s e x p e a l a d o s e s z o m g w t f h a x p l z k t h n x b b q
03:49 <armabot> spidey: p a s l f m x t s z a h a w l k c s i p t s c a a q x f d e a g g b z o h r u t r e l a n x o i b e p e s l
03:49 <Vanhayes> winamp hates me and closes whenever I open it so i wouldnt know
03:49 <spidey> lol
03:49  * Fonkay doesn't have winamp
03:49 <Vanhayes> isnt it like isnt it 15 minutes to 12 there?
03:49 <Fonkay> to 11
03:50 <Vanhayes> hmm
03:50 <Fonkay> in the same time zone as you silly
03:50 <Vanhayes> argh forgot there was no time zone diff
03:50 <Fonkay> but i have to wake up in like 6 hrs
03:50 <Vanhayes> work?
03:50 <Fonkay> and work 10
03:50 <Fonkay> yep
03:50 <Vanhayes> tim hortens?
03:50 <Fonkay> hehe, no
03:51  * Vanhayes is a Timmy ho
03:51 <Fonkay> we do serve coffee though
03:51 <Vanhayes> where at?
03:51 <Fonkay> cora's
03:51 <Vanhayes> never heard of it
03:51 <Fonkay> only for another 3 weeks though
03:51 <Fonkay> there's one in moncton
03:51 <Vanhayes> im more south
03:52 <Fonkay> yea
03:52 <Vanhayes> er maybe
03:52 <Fonkay> but still
03:52 <Vanhayes> what is it? 
03:52 <Fonkay> breakfast and lunch restaurant
03:52 <Fonkay> open 6 - 3
03:52 <Vanhayes> nice
03:52 <spidey_> root@abyss ~/opt/kde3/bin
03:52 <spidey_> $ uname -omnrvi
03:52 <spidey_> abyss 1.5.20(0.156/4/2) 2006-07-01 02:22 i686 unknown Cygwin
03:52 <Fonkay> yea, it's nice getting off at a nice time
03:53 <spidey_> windows
03:53 <spidey_> ;x
03:53 <Fonkay> wow, bad sentence
03:53  * Fonkay pokes spidey
03:53 <Vanhayes> ha
03:53  * spidey_ pokes Fonkay
03:53 <spidey> O_o
03:53 <Fonkay> _
03:53 <spidey> _
03:53 <spidey> no
03:54 <Fonkay> i should have drank 3 cups of coffee before bed
03:54 <Fonkay> shouldn't have*
03:55 <Fonkay> so i'm going to go play some arma, and then off to bed
03:55 <spidey> shouldn't've*
03:55 <LuciEatsPeople> got kde running yet, spidey?
03:55 <Fonkay> it's not good to work with sharp knives and hot grills without sleep
03:55 <spidey> 'er
03:55 <Vanhayes> heh try to get of your cafene high?
03:55 <spidey> i only pay attention every now and then
03:55 <spidey> hold on
03:55 <LuciEatsPeople> man, I used to go work stoned off my ass
03:56 <Fonkay> i don't do drugs
03:56 <LuciEatsPeople> they'd make me work the grill because I was useless for anything else when I did that :)
03:56 <Fonkay> but many people at my work come high
03:56 <LuciEatsPeople> well, I don't anymore either, but this was like 12 years ago
03:56 <Vanhayes> I go to work drunk cause I have shitty hours
03:56 <Vanhayes> I get drunk then 3 hours later have to go in
03:57 <spidey> www.fallin-angels.com/untitled.JPG i've gotten that far
03:57 <Fonkay> omg, i just found vanilla ice on my computer
03:57 <spidey> wait
03:57 <Vanhayes> I hate haveing about 20 people working at a small town tim hortens
03:57 <spidey> wrong picture
03:57 <LuciEatsPeople> wrong screenshot?
03:58 <spidey> www.fallin-angels.com/pwn.JPG i've gotten that far
03:58 <LuciEatsPeople> vanilla ice?
03:58 <spidey> that one
03:58 <Fonkay> Ninja Rap from TMNT
03:58 <Vanhayes> lol
03:58 <Fonkay> what a horrible song
03:58 <Fonkay> im not sure how this got on here though
03:58 <LuciEatsPeople> so where's kde?
03:58 <spidey> not there yet :p
03:59 <spidey> i got the base though
03:59 <spidey> that's enough fornow :p
03:59  * Vanhayes attempts to start winamp up again
03:59 <LuciEatsPeople> that's how southerners say "I give up"
03:59 <spidey> not really
03:59  * spidey doesn't give up
03:59 <LuciEatsPeople> really
04:00 <spidey> really
04:00 <spidey> unless i get lazy
04:00 <spidey> i've got this far,i'm not giving up
04:00 <LuciEatsPeople> that's like saying "unless water isn't wet"
04:00 <spidey> haha
04:00 <spidey> water isn't wet
04:00 <spidey> the person that gets in the water is wet
04:00 <spidey> :)
04:01 <LuciEatsPeople> has luke-jr__ taken over your head again, spidey?
04:01 <spidey> LMAO
04:01 -!- LuciEatsPeople is now known as Lucifer_arma
04:02 <Lucifer_arma> these wontons would be perfect if I hadn't fried them in butter flavored crisco
04:02 <Vanhayes> argh your stupid winamp plugin is going crazy spidey 
04:02 <spidey> ?
04:03 <Vanhayes> pop ups saying Invalid filname 
04:03 <Vanhayes> 60 of them
04:03 <Vanhayes> crazy
04:04 <Vanhayes> it got to 83 before I ended the process
04:04 <Vanhayes> now winamp wont work at all
04:05 <Fonkay> wtf is up with fortress?
04:05 <Lucifer_arma> I'm gonna become a rapper, and I'm going to name myself White Chocolate
04:05 <Lucifer_arma> and I'm going to run a spell-checker on all my lyrics
04:06 <Fonkay> go to fortress someone
04:06 <Vanhayes> ok
04:07 <Vanhayes> wow lots of bots
04:14 <Vanhayes> heh skip has always had problems
04:26 <Fonkay> ok, time for sleep, g'night
04:26 <Lucifer_arma> 'night Fonkay 
04:26 <Fonkay> later
04:26 <Vanhayes> night Fonkay 
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04:27 <Lucifer_arma> I am sooooo tired of answering the "Why doesn't my server show up on the list?" question
04:27 <Vanhayes> mmm, the only thing in the house to eat without cooking it was pita bread and peanut butter and a banana
04:30 <spidey> tell them
04:30 <spidey> "router"
04:30 <spidey> "firewall"
04:30 <spidey> only 2 things it is
04:30 <spidey> or "talk_to_master 1"
04:30 <spidey> you should put those 2 things in a part on the wiki and make a instant chat
04:30 <spidey> lol
04:31 <Vanhayes> ?
04:31 <spidey> Lucifer_arma I am sooooo tired of answering the "Why doesn't my server show up on the list?" question
04:31 <Vanhayes> tell who?o
04:31 <Vanhayes> er
04:31 <Vanhayes> o*
04:31 <spidey> whoever says "why doesn't may server show up on the list?"
04:31 <spidey> keep up man
04:31  * Vanhayes will do so
04:39 <Lucifer_arma> so you had a banana peanut butter pita sandwich?
04:39 <Vanhayes> How can i die but still have .4 rubber left?
04:39 <Vanhayes> yes I did
04:39 <Vanhayes> quite good too
04:39 <spidey> um
04:39 <spidey> i've had same problems
04:39 <spidey> only mine
04:39 <spidey> i die with half rubber left
04:39 <Vanhayes> is more left
04:39 <Vanhayes> ya same here
04:40 <spidey> like i touch a wall
04:40 <spidey> boom
04:41 <Vanhayes> ya but it even shows on the meter I have rubber left
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04:47 <Vanhayes> #list
04:47 <armabot> Vanhayes: Admin, Alias, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, Dict, Games, Google, Herald, Insult, Later, Math, Misc, News, Owner, Praise, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Time, Unix, User, Utilities, and Web
04:47 <luke-jr__> Catherine is trying to stick a graham cracker up her nose
04:50 <Vanhayes> why?
04:50 <Vanhayes> hmm I think skip is trying to so something in Bugfarm
04:56 <spidey> er
04:56 <spidey> i fucked up somewhere
04:56 <spidey> i'll restart tomorrow when i have time to actually pay attention to that monitor
04:56 <spidey> O_o
05:00 <Lucifer_arma> I think I'm just going to install hydrogen
05:07 <Lucifer_arma> http://streams.davefancella.com:8000/bass.ogg.m3u <--- can you hear drums?
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05:37 <spidey> kafeine doesn't stream it :/
05:37 <spidey> well it does
05:38 <spidey> but i can't hear anything
05:38 <spidey> nvm
05:38 <spidey> i hear it
05:38 <spidey> O_o
05:40 <spidey> ok now it stopped
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> did you hear the drums?
05:43 <spidey> yst
05:43 <spidey> yar
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> and bass?
05:43 <spidey> yea
05:43 <spidey> it stopped though
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> ok, cool.  :)
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I just stoped it.
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> my wife also interupted me at some point to nag
05:43 <spidey> lol
05:43 <spidey> that must have been the first stop
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> probably
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> she sees me playing my bass and figures I'm not doing anything important
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> I say "just because it's not important to you doesn't mean it's not important"
05:44 <spidey> lol
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> anyway kaffeine wouldn't stream it to me because I had the sound card being used by other things so I couldn't check it myself, thanks
05:45 <Lucifer_arma> had to install aumix again, kmix wouldn't let me pick an output device for my capture device :(
05:45 <spidey> mmm
05:45 <spidey> ok,though i'm not sure what that means,lol
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> heh
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> well, normally you pick the microphone as your capture device, right?
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> in fact, that's the most common default setting
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> but what if you want someone to hear what you hear?
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> anyway
05:46  * Lucifer_arma is smoking, bbiab
05:47 <spidey> ah
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05:56 <spidey> it's back O_o
05:57 <Vanhayes> luke-jr_ what setting controls being able to pass thru walls?
05:58 <spidey> respawn?
06:08 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes: it's automatically disabled if someone uses an old client
06:09 <Vanhayes> so there is no command for it?
06:09 <luke-jr_> CYCLE_INVULNERABLE_TIME or smth
06:14 <Vanhayes> hmm i see if has his race server back up
06:14 <Vanhayes> #night
06:14 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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06:46 <spidey> i just ripped a chunk of skin with a tick attacked to it out
06:46 <spidey> O_o
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> man, I ripped something off my face last night that looked really weird.  It looked like a tick, but when I split it with my hand it came apart like wax,
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> not like a bloody tick
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> it had been embedded in my cheek, I wonder if there's a hole now
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> why are there two spideys?
07:02 <spidey> ?
07:02 <spidey> oh
07:02 <spidey> one's on the windows box
07:03 <spidey> and the mouse came unplugged and i don't feel like crawling under it and plugging it back in
07:03 <spidey> so for it sits there
07:07 <spidey> oot@fbi.gov[Desktop]# ./armagetronad-0.3.0.i686-generic-linux-gnu.package
07:07 <spidey> bash: ./armagetronad-0.3.0.i686-generic-linux-gnu.package: Permission denied
07:07 <spidey> wtf
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07:48 <Lucifer_arma> chmod uga+x armagetronad*.package
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> or
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> sh armagetronad*.package
07:59 <spidey> got it
07:59 <spidey> used bash
08:05 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, there's this bug i keep getting and this one's not just on mbc
08:05 <spidey> i get it on fortress aswell
08:06 <spidey> i die with <2/3 rubber
08:06 <Lucifer_arma> got a recording?  post it on the forums?  ;)
08:07 <Lucifer_arma> or just call BUG when it happens and describe it...
08:08 <spidey> mmm
08:08 <spidey> i can get a recording,but do i have to post on the forums....i dunno what to say :/
08:08 <spidey> and brb i'm getting bad lag,need to restart the router
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08:11 <mkzelda> i played mbc for the first time in a year a few days ago
08:11 <mkzelda> had that prob a lot
08:11 <mkzelda> dying w/ no rubber usage at all
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08:11 <mkzelda> something insane like 45 rubber there
08:11 <mkzelda> die the sec i approached a wall
08:11 <spidey> ?
08:11 <mkzelda> that bug @ mbc
08:11 <spidey> it's not just mbc
08:12 <spidey> i get it everywhere
08:12 <mkzelda> yea, but iw as saying i got it
08:12 <mkzelda> i'd used no rubber, and ran up to a wall and died
08:12 <spidey> yea
08:12 <mkzelda> w/ 45 rubber u should be able to just run into it for like 10 secs
08:12 <spidey> heh
08:12 <mkzelda> 5 minutes
08:12 <mkzelda> heh
08:13 <spidey> with break even longer
08:13 <spidey> :p
08:13 <spidey> back to tron
08:13 <mkzelda> arg
08:13 <mkzelda> no amd64 livecd exists w/ kernel headers >= 2.6.16 and reiser4 support
08:13 <mkzelda> ive been locked outta my machine for 2 months now
08:14 <mkzelda> rr64 theoretically has it but the reiser4 support is broken
08:14 <mkzelda> older version's reiser4 works but the headers are 2.6.11
08:15 <mkzelda> i try to compile glibc and it says kernel too old
08:16 <mkzelda> arg, uname -r = 2.6.16-reiser4-r3-nosmp
08:16 <mkzelda> mount /dev/sda3 -t reiser4 /mnt/gentoo
08:16 <mkzelda> unknown filesystem type 'reiser4'
08:16 <mkzelda> heh, go figure
08:16 <mkzelda> reiser4 in the kernel name
08:34 <spidey> fuck man
08:34 <spidey> i'm getting some major lag
08:34 <spidey> for no reason
08:34  * spidey tests connection speed
08:37 <spidey> omg
08:37 <spidey> OMG
08:37 <spidey> you gotta be shitting me
08:37 <spidey> 28kbps
08:37 <spidey> upload
08:37 <spidey> that's like
08:37 <spidey> 2.5kb/s
08:37 <spidey> wtf
08:38 <spidey> NO WAY
08:38 <spidey> Last Result:
08:38 <spidey> Download Speed: 2956 kbps (369.5 KB/sec transfer rate)
08:38 <spidey> Upload Speed: 6 kbps (0.8 KB/sec transfer rate)
08:38 <spidey> what the hell is that about
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08:55 <spidey> man
08:55 <spidey> my isp's gonna get a bitching like never before
08:56 <spidey> this is getting to be bullshit
08:56 <spidey> actually
08:56 <spidey> it bullshit after the 4th rain
08:57 <spidey> i'ma tell them i'ma start recommending people to bellsouth cause charter sucks
08:57 <spidey> lol
09:17 <wrtlprnft> spidey: any progress with kde?
09:17 <spidey> i got the base down but i fucked up somewhere at the beginning
09:18 <spidey> so i'ma restart it today when i can find a place for the monitor where it doesn't kill my neck
09:19 <spidey> for now
09:19 <spidey> my main worries
09:19 <spidey> is getting my upload speed above .8kb/s
09:19 <spidey> which is gonna require bitching at my isp some more
09:20 <mkzelda> ouch
09:20 <mkzelda> dialup is faster
09:21 <mkzelda> tell them u've bridged your dialup to your cable for uploads
09:21 <mkzelda> so you could go 4 times faster than cable
09:21 <mkzelda> 5 or 6 times actually
09:22 <spidey> LOL
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09:22 <spidey> i dunno
09:22 <spidey> but a .8kb/s upload is bullshit
09:22 <mkzelda> sure is
09:23 <spidey> specially on cable
09:23 <spidey> :|
09:23 <mkzelda> i thot 45k/s sux
09:23 <mkzelda> .8 has to limit your download too
09:23 <mkzelda> cause of the negotiation needed
09:23 <spidey> my normal upstram is about 30kb/s
09:23 <spidey> no i get my full download
09:24 <spidey> 360+kb/s
09:24 <mkzelda> just to make sure, your cat5 is in good condition right
09:24 <mkzelda> ?
09:25 <spidey> cat5?
09:25 <mkzelda> your ethernet cabling
09:25 <spidey> oh
09:25 <spidey> yea
09:25 <spidey> it's new
09:25 <mkzelda> cause i've had that problem when i had a wire under the carpet and my chair managed to rub the wires inside the outer insulation coat
09:25 <spidey> no that's not the problem
09:25 <spidey> but
09:25 <mkzelda> had enough noise to cause trouble w/ outbound or incoming
09:26 <mkzelda> as if it was half duplex
09:26 <spidey> just to check i've got another set i haven't taken out of the case yet
09:26 <spidey> brb
09:26 <mkzelda> twisted pair came untwisted
09:27 <spidey> lol @ a 4ft cable
09:27 <mkzelda> i wired my whole house w/ cat6
09:27 <wrtlprnft> #g 4ft in m
09:27 <armabot> 4 feet = 1.2192 meters
09:27 <mkzelda> put boxes in the walls of every room
09:28 <mkzelda> i could have a sweet lan party
09:28 <mkzelda> if i had any friends
09:28 <mkzelda> haha
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09:28 <wrtlprnft> aren't there other DpG guys?
09:29 <wrtlprnft> i thought that was some sort of programming club
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09:29 <spidey> ok
09:29 <spidey> brb testing speeds
09:30 <mkzelda> there are 2 of us in dpg
09:30 <mkzelda> flea and i
09:30 <spidey> lol
09:30 <spidey> upload start is taking forever
09:31 <mkzelda> i've known him for like 13 years
09:31 <spidey> i dun think it's fonna work
09:31 <mkzelda> we started dpg when we made our high school's website
09:31 <spidey> O_o
09:32 <wrtlprnft> just 2? I thought there was more
09:32 <mkzelda> nah
09:32 <mkzelda> its not really a clan, as we dont do anything other than tag ourselves and our work w/ dpg
09:32 <mkzelda> i mean, we dont get involved in that stuff like starting wars and stuff
09:33 <spidey> Last Result:
09:33 <spidey> Download Speed: 2954 kbps (369.3 KB/sec transfer rate)
09:33 <spidey> Upload Speed: 32 kbps (4 KB/sec transfer rate)
09:33 <spidey> LOL
09:33 <mkzelda> woooo sweet
09:33 <mkzelda> you're rockin now
09:33 <spidey> i'm moven up in class dood
09:33 <spidey> a whole 4kb/s
09:33 <mkzelda> you just moved up to dialup
09:33 <mkzelda> congrats
09:33 <spidey> actually
09:34 <spidey> i was on dialup
09:34 <spidey> 14.4k
09:34 <spidey> :p
09:34 <mkzelda> yea that wont go that fast
09:34 <spidey> lol
09:34 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #morning
09:34 <armabot> Good Morning [Xpert]DarkStar Random Fortune:  Earth -- mother of the most beautiful women in the universe. || -- Apollo, "Who Mourns for Adonais?" stardate 3468.1
09:35 <spidey> hahahah
09:35 <spidey> check out my upstream signal
09:35 <spidey> Name
09:35 <spidey> 	 WebSTAR DPX110
09:35 <spidey> Modem Serial Number
09:35 <spidey> 	 SM0232180
09:35 <spidey> Cable Modem MAC Address
09:35 <spidey> 	 00:40:7B:3E:54:9E
09:35 <spidey> Hardware Version
09:35 <spidey> 	 3.0
09:35 <spidey> Software Version
09:35 <spidey> 	 1.0.5 r1.1.3.1-041125 (dpx110-v105r1131-rw-041125a.bin)
09:35 <spidey> Receive Power Level
09:35 <spidey> 	  0.02 dBmV
09:35 <spidey> Transmit Power Level
09:35 <wrtlprnft> ...
09:35 <spidey> 	 46.00 dBmV
09:35 <wrtlprnft> ...
09:35 <spidey> 46db!
09:35 <wrtlprnft> ...
09:35 <mkzelda> hehe
09:36 <spidey> wrtlprnft, the higher the db the lower the speed
09:36 <spidey> just so you know...
09:36 <mkzelda> are u splitting the cable?
09:36 <spidey> nope
09:36 <spidey> i disconnected the router
09:36 <spidey> thought that was the problem
09:36 <spidey> but appearently wasn't
09:37 <mkzelda> how is tron w/ that fantastic connection
09:37 <spidey> actually
09:37 <spidey> in mbc
09:37 <spidey> i manage to keep a 69-78 ping
09:38 <wrtlprnft> spidey: the higher the noise please
09:38 <spidey> db/noise samething
09:38 <wrtlprnft> hech, won't those americans ever get that you shouldn't mix up units and dimensions?
09:38 <wrtlprnft> *heck
09:39 <spidey> won't those europeans ever learn how to spell meters :)
09:39 <wrtlprnft> ?!
09:39 <mkzelda> haha
09:39 <wrtlprnft> it's just britain and canada afaik
09:39 <mkzelda> how about loose and lose
09:39  * wrtlprnft knows how to spell "lose"
09:39 <mkzelda> cause u do a lot of it
09:40 <mkzelda> :D
09:40 <spidey> hahahah
09:40 <wrtlprnft> how about they're and their spidey?
09:40 <spidey> they're = they are
09:40 <wrtlprnft> or it's and its for that matter
09:40 <spidey> and their = a place
09:40 <mkzelda> hahahaha
09:40 <spidey> it's = it is
09:40 <mkzelda> there = a place
09:40 <[Xpert]DarkStar> there = ?
09:40 <spidey> O_o
09:40 <wrtlprnft> spidey: i know, but you mix it up all the time
09:40 <spidey> hey i never said i was good at english
09:40 <spidey> infact 
09:40 <spidey> it's my lowest subject
09:40 <spidey> :)
09:41 <[Xpert]DarkStar> infarct :P
09:41 <mkzelda> their = plural posessive
09:41 <[Xpert]DarkStar> they're cool with their car there
09:41 <spidey> O_o
09:41 <[Xpert]DarkStar> did i mention i'm not a native english speaker?
09:42 <wrtlprnft> [Xpert]DarkStar: more likely their more cool with they're car there
09:42 <spidey> me either
09:42 <spidey> my native language is jibberish
09:42 <spidey> Last Result:
09:42 <spidey> Download Speed: 2956 kbps (369.5 KB/sec transfer rate)
09:42 <spidey> Upload Speed: 11 kbps (1.4 KB/sec transfer rate)
09:42 <spidey> i just got downgraded!
09:42 <mkzelda> time to see if lagfarm is just a bunch of ppl tking still
09:42  * spidey attempts to play
09:42 <spidey> lol
09:44 <[Xpert]DarkStar> hmm
09:44 <[Xpert]DarkStar> gonna try and play some too
09:45 <spidey> wow
09:45 <spidey> 500+ ping
09:45 <spidey> awesome fpsthough
09:45 <spidey> i had 80-90
09:53 <[Xpert]DarkStar> for me it's the other way around :P
09:53 <spidey> 500 fps!?!?!?!?
09:53 <[Xpert]DarkStar> sometimes
09:53 <spidey> omg you suck
09:53 <spidey> gimme your card :p
09:53 <[Xpert]DarkStar> geforce 6800gt
09:53 <spidey> O_o
09:53 <[Xpert]DarkStar> amd athlon 64
09:54 <spidey> i wonder
09:54 <[Xpert]DarkStar> running linux and everything in 64 bit
09:54 <spidey> heh
09:54 <spidey> 32 bit runs hella faster on a 32bit processor
09:54 <spidey> wait
09:54 <spidey> 32 bit runs hella faster on a 64bit processor
09:54 <spidey> 32 bit OS runs hella faster on a 64bit processor
09:54 <spidey> i'll get something right one of these days,i promis
09:54 <[Xpert]DarkStar> and 64bit is even faster
09:55 <spidey> promise!!!!!
09:55 <[Xpert]DarkStar> iirc 32 bit OS runs slower on 64 bit CPUs
09:55 <[Xpert]DarkStar> but not remarkably
09:55 <spidey> no
09:55 <spidey> 64bit os runs slower on a 32bit processor
09:55 <spidey> 32bit = faster ;x
09:55 <[Xpert]DarkStar> 64 bit doesn't run at all on 32 bit cpu
09:55 <spidey> mmm
09:56 <[Xpert]DarkStar> just like you can't play quake4 with an nvidia riva
09:56 <spidey> like i said
09:56 <spidey> i'll get something right one of these days,i promise
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10:05 <spidey|sleep> ^^^just to annoy wrtlprnft 
10:05 <spidey|sleep> :p
10:27 <mkzelda> i get about 900fps
10:27 <mkzelda> doesnt help lag one bit tho
10:37 <Lucifer_arma> 64 bit, natively compiled on a 64-bit processor runs about 20% slower than the same software compiled as 32-bit applications run on the same processor
10:38 <Lucifer_arma> so if performance is what you need, you're usually better off running 32-bit on a 64-bit machine.  Or so I hear, anyway.
10:39 <Lucifer_arma> otoh, if you actually need 64 bits of addressing space and all the perks that go with it, 32-bit applications will run hugely slower, if at all, because they have to go to the bus twice for each address
10:39 <Lucifer_arma> and finally, you can't link (afaik) a 32-bit app to a 64-bit library.  So you either have to maintain a separate lib directory for each one, or you have to take a stand and compile all to one
10:40 <Lucifer_arma> now, if someone would like to send me a nice opteron system so I can test all this for myself.....
10:40 <wejp> it is not true that a 64 bit binary runs slower than a 32 bit one
10:40 <wejp> at least not on amd64
10:40 <Lucifer_arma> so, basically, databases run slower on the whole
10:41 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, my information is several years old now and is basd on the first opterons that came out
10:41 <wejp> it can even be faster actually, if it makes use of the extra registers the cpu has in 64 bit mode
10:41 <wejp> and a good compiler should do that
10:41 <Lucifer_arma> they benchmarked mysql, apache, and a kernel compile (they being the people that wrote the article I'm remembering)
10:42 <wejp> several years ago the compilers (at least gcc) wasn't optimised for amd64 at all
10:42 <Lucifer_arma> this would also be several significant gcc versions ago :)
10:42 <wejp> yeah
10:43 <Lucifer_arma> subjectively, it seems like the arma servers running on 64-bit systems are more lag-free :)
10:43 <wejp> ;)
10:44 <Lucifer_arma> hmm, in the article I read they disabled whatever 32-bit optimizations they could, but I can see how that would skew the results significantly
10:44 <Lucifer_arma> two unoptimized binaries are not equivalent!
10:44 <wejp> yeah that doesn't make much sense. noone would use such binaries anyway
10:45 <Lucifer_arma> they were trying to compensate for not having optimization for 64-bit
10:45 <wejp> well yeah, but they actually can't compensate for that
10:46 <Lucifer_arma> they compared it to optimized 32-bit binaries because you need a control group if you're trying to be experimental
10:47 <wejp> another advantage of 64 bit cpus vs. 32 bit is, that you don't have this lowmem/highmem thing on 64 bit
10:47 <Lucifer_arma> what makes the most reasonable sense to me is that they'd run at the same speed, assuming comparable optimizations available, or slightly faster becasue of the incremental improvement the 64-bit processors have over the 32-bit ones
10:48 <Lucifer_arma> where slightly faster are the 64-bit binaries that can actually take advantage of the processor's architecture
10:49 <Lucifer_arma> not that it matters much to me, we need more bits.  :)  The transition to 64-bit is inevitable, and it will be better in the long run anyway
10:49 <wejp> yes, they are not faster because it is 64 bit (unless you need huge amounts of memory), but because the cpu has features the 32 bit cpu does not have
10:50 <[Xpert]DarkStar> i remember my own tests (i know they weren't very extensive) where i found out that my amd64@2ghz is 5 times faster than the p4@2.4ghz
10:50 <wejp> wow
10:50 <Lucifer_arma> well, database and web servers both strike me as applications that should be faster because they can use their ram caches better
10:50 <wejp> yeah
10:50 <Lucifer_arma> but arma, surprisingly enough, *shouldn't* be faster because it doesn't use much memory, and most of the work is in the video card anyway
10:51 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know, maybe the 64-bit thing means more data can be sent to the vid card, but I don't see it affecting servers much
10:51 <Lucifer_arma> maybe better floating point accuracy?
10:51 <[Xpert]DarkStar> on a server there is _noting_ done by the vid card ;)
10:51 <Lucifer_arma> right, but there's also nothing done on a server that isn't also done on a client :)
10:52 <[Xpert]DarkStar> 1
10:52 <Lucifer_arma> 2
10:52 <Lucifer_arma> ?
10:52 <wejp> arma servers aren't very cpu demanding anyway
10:52 <Lucifer_arma> tell that to my server
10:52 <[Xpert]DarkStar> 1 = true
10:53 <[Xpert]DarkStar> wejp: so why can't i run a tron server on my sparc?
10:53 <[Xpert]DarkStar> (running at 150mhz)
10:53 <Lucifer_arma> can you get it to compile?
10:53 <[Xpert]DarkStar> i mean... with 2 players online it is at 100% cpu usage
10:53 <wejp> oh, ok that can be a little to slow actually
10:53 <wejp> but it runs fine on a 600 MHz VIA C3 cpu, which isn't the fastest one out there ;)
10:53 <Lucifer_arma> ahhh, umm, what version?  and what's DEDICATED_FRAMERATE (or whatever it's called) set at?
10:54 <[Xpert]DarkStar> and why can't you make the tron server take advantage of smp systems?
10:54 <wejp> probably because it isn't multithreaded
10:54 <Lucifer_arma> that would require adding threading and crap
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10:54 <[Xpert]DarkStar> well... it would certainly make things better...
10:54 <wejp> not neccessarily
10:55 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, heh.  two smp implementations aren't necessarily equal either
10:55 <wejp> yeah
10:55 <[Xpert]DarkStar> perhaps getting a new server machine would make things better too
10:55 <Lucifer_arma> I suspect it would make things worse on windows, which already has problems with too many processes
10:55 <wejp> and making a non-threaded application threaded is non-trivial
10:55 <Lucifer_arma> and it would arguably make things slightly worse on single-cpu systems, which is what most people around here have anyway
10:56 <wejp> yeah
10:56 <[Xpert]DarkStar> but most people also have decent machines...
10:56 <Lucifer_arma> the only place I see it being terribly useful is also the worst place to put it, which is in the network polling.
10:56 <wejp> well even though i have a smp machine i still prefer it the way it is
10:56 <Lucifer_arma> On the one hand, you get better framerates because you're not waiting on the network for anything
10:57 <Lucifer_arma> on the other hand, you get messages arriving out of order locally.  ack!  what a pain!  Imagine what lag will look like then!
10:57 <wejp> hm, ok at least the network stuff should probably rtun in a seprate thread
10:57 <wejp> maybe that is way the fps vary so much
10:57  * Lucifer_arma admits he hasn't been deep enough in there to see it
10:58 <Lucifer_arma> well, that's why local games have so much more fps, but z-man recently committed a change that adds a timeout to one of the polling functions that wsn't previously there
10:58 <wejp> i think armagetron often runs too slow considering the not very advanced graphics
10:58 <Lucifer_arma> my fps went up a bit after that change...
10:58 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, the general "runs too slow" complaint isn't actually related to threading or anything, I think.  It has more to do with the pile of spaghetti....
10:59 <Lucifer_arma> there's a lot of code that's not optimized, period.
10:59 <wejp> well i don't know what causes it
10:59 <Lucifer_arma> there's some profiling going on, so hopefully we'll be identifying more of the bottlenecks.  In 0.3 and the trunk the biggest bottleneck is the map
11:00 <wrtlprnft> no, tables are
11:00 <Lucifer_arma> at least, according ot the last profiler output I saw
11:00 <Lucifer_arma> really?  tables overtook the map?
11:00 <wejp> that'll be good, there must be plenty of room for optimizations
11:01 <wrtlprnft> depends on your cockpit i guess
11:01 <Lucifer_arma> great, now everytime philippeqc posts we have to see a picture of someone's hands holding Pauly Shore's head
11:01 <Lucifer_arma> ah, my cockpit doesn't have many/any tables in it
11:01 <Lucifer_arma> it has one, I think.  Maybe two
11:01 <philippeqc> o poor you lucifer
11:01 <Lucifer_arma> :P
11:01 <wejp> ;)
11:02 <philippeqc> though you'd be tired of my avatar by now
11:02 <Lucifer_arma> this will be a pleasant change.  :)
11:02 <Lucifer_arma> are you, perhaps, related to Pauly Shore?  I know that's not his real name....
11:03 <Lucifer_arma> You're *not* Pauly Shore, of course, his english is worse than yours
11:03 <philippeqc> O thanks lucifer, you always leave with this warm and fuzzy feeling ;)
11:04 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, we need a check in configure for boost at some point.  I put a bug for it on sourceforge, we definitely need it before we do 0.3.1.  :)
11:04 <philippeqc> I'll have to call my buddy Pauly, and he'll pay you a visit ;)
11:04  * Lucifer_arma wants to use boost's threading classes to try to sneak threading into the game :)
11:05 <philippeqc> wonders what you'd like to thread in the game. 
11:06 <philippeqc> I though game pretty much had to follow a "animate render repeat" pattern
11:06 <Lucifer_arma> well, I have to thread some stuff in the sound engine, no choice about it.  Since I'll be taking that over instead of letting sdl deal with it, we'll finally have some noticeable threading code
11:08  * philippeqc admit of not knowing much about the realities of sound
11:08 <Lucifer_arma> well, basically, you have to fill the sound card's buffers before they run out, adn you have to guarantee that fill.  So that's one thread.
11:09 <Lucifer_arma> Then you have to read ahead for streaming sound files (like music), and you have to read far enough ahead that you don't starve the first thread
11:09 <Lucifer_arma> and you can't do the reading in the thread that fills the sound card's buffers, so that's a second thread
11:10 <Lucifer_arma> openAL provides one of these threads, I think, and sdl also provides one, and sdl_mixer hides the facts from you completely, so I have to provide at least the one that reads the music.
11:11 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, I need to get to bed, calc test tomorrow and I still have some studying to do before the test
11:12 <philippeqc> but arent thread totally unrealiable? You can schedule them, and only hope the OS runs them fast enough for your need
11:12 <philippeqc> s/fast/often
11:14 <Lucifer_arma> yes, and no
11:14 <Lucifer_arma> generally you run your internal buffers large enough that you don't have to worry, as long as your thread gets called often enough
11:14 <Lucifer_arma> but the larger your internal buffers, the more latency, heh
11:15 <Lucifer_arma> another option is to setuid root on the executable, in which case you can get high priority threads whenever you want them
11:15 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm
11:15 <philippeqc> but then, having those 2, wouldn't just inserting the filling of the buffer in the main loop be as reliable, and without the thread overhead (the coding and debuging part)
11:15  * Lucifer_arma wonders if he'll get more fps if he does that right now
11:16 <wrtlprnft> *insert comment about fps vs framerate here*
11:16 <Lucifer_arma> maybe, maybe not.  The standard practice is to divorce the reading and buffer swapping from the gui as much as possible
11:16 <Lucifer_arma> basically, you don't want sound to be starved because you're polling the network or keyboard input or rendering crap
11:17 <Lucifer_arma> sure, on a practical level that's still a concern, but conceptually, putting shit into threads works fine :)
11:17 <philippeqc> i know, I've done some threading ;) Just throwing in a word of caution 
11:17 <Lucifer_arma> I've been down this road before, I think I can handle it.  ;)
11:18 <Lucifer_arma> we'll do as much as possible from the main loop, and that's really all I can say right now.  It'll be a bit before I have to deal with it still because I'm going to build on sdl's system first anyway
11:18 <philippeqc> ok
11:18 <philippeqc> sure sounds neat
11:19 <Lucifer_arma> openal has to do some of this work for you, though, because you just tell it "play this sound located <here in memory> at this location" and it applies effects to do it
11:19 <Lucifer_arma> so you're still pretty far from the metal, just don't know how far yet
11:20 <Lucifer_arma> and it doesn't do any streaming, so I still have to stream from disk for music myself.
11:20 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, to bed!  ;)
11:20 <philippeqc> can openal do space positioning? if I have a 5.1 or 7.1 sound card, can I hear stuff behind me?
11:20 <philippeqc> cya
11:20 <Lucifer_arma> yes
11:20 <Lucifer_arma> it also does doppler shifting :)
11:20 <Lucifer_arma> a few other things
11:20 <philippeqc> neat
11:21 <Lucifer_arma> I admit I'm a bit anxious to hear the initial fortress grind with doppler shifting
11:22 <philippeqc> with people passing you and you passing them, all in a very short period of time... that'd be wicked
11:32 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5606 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
11:32 <armabot> armagetronad: Fixed trail end related simulation accuracy bugs. The rubber code now checks
11:32 <armabot> armagetronad: when a trail end will disappear and will simulate exactly to that point. When
11:32 <armabot> armagetronad: stuck on a trail end, the moment you're allowed to pass it is thus better
11:32 <armabot> armagetronad: defined even when simulating with large timesteps.
11:40 <wrtlprnft> ah, that was this bug on bf fortress yesterday :)
12:01 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5607 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/engine/eTeam.cpp: Fixed AI balancing. AIs are, at the lowest level, always allowed to join a team now. The higher level balancing code is responsible for making sure the joining makes sense.
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12:19 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5608 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (7 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)
12:19 <armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 5602 to 5607:
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12:19 <armabot> armagetronad:  r5607 | z-man | 2006-07-09 12:01:22 +0200 (Sun, 09 Jul 2006) | 1 line
12:19 <armabot> armagetronad:  Fixed AI balancing. AIs are, at the lowest level, always allowed to join a team now. The higher level balancing code is responsible for making sure the joining makes sense.
12:19 <armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
12:19 <armabot> armagetronad:  r5606 | z-man | 2006-07-09 11:32:03 +0200 (Sun, 09 Jul 2006) | 1 line
12:20 <wrtlprnft> hmm, I'll wait a while and see if there's anymore glitches before i update my server
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14:49 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Drashia/fortress/speed_diamond-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Drashia
14:49 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Drashia/fortress/cristal-0.1.0.aamap.xml: Resource by Drashia
14:53 <wrtlprnft> woo another map factoty
14:53 <wrtlprnft> *factory
14:53  * wrtlprnft loves talking to armabot
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16:36 <madmax|pt> hi
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16:53 <ghableska> hi
17:24 <cusco> yo
17:24 <ghableska> O_o
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20:07 <spidey> Last Result:
20:07 <spidey> Download Speed: 2963 kbps (370.4 KB/sec transfer rate)
20:07 <spidey> Upload Speed: 223 kbps (27.9 KB/sec transfer rate)
20:07 <spidey> zomg
20:07 <spidey> it's fixed O_o
20:24 <Vanhayes> whats fixed?
20:24 <spidey> my 4kb/s upload
20:24 <spidey> now i go play lag free tron
20:24 <spidey> bbl
20:24 <luke-jr_> lol
20:26 <luke-jr_> spidey: you should try my server
20:36 <Lucifer_arma> I woke up, can't wait to eat, got my cereal, boy was I beat.  Opened the fridge and to my dismay, there's no milk!
20:44 <spidey> :(
20:45 <madmax|pt> that thing sucks
20:45 <spidey> no doubt
20:45 <spidey> i died when there was a visible cycle length still there
20:45 <spidey> :/
20:46 <spidey> hahha@ lucifer
20:57 <luke-jr_> madmax|pt: what thing?
20:57 <Lucifer_arma> yay, SP on my server finally works
20:57 <Lucifer_arma> I played as People Eaters, and my teammate that was randomly picked was the AI called Cannibal, haha
20:57 <spidey> lol
20:59 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm off to take my calc test, bbl
21:03 <spidey> cya homie!!!
21:15 <wrtlprnft> anyone any clue how i can find out what type of RAM a computer needs without opening it?
21:30 <Niii> http://www.holin.com/cindex.html
21:33 <joda_bot> wrtlprnft: What do you want to know ? the form factor or the timings / speed ?
21:34 <joda_bot> wrtlprnft: For linux http://hosting.planetargon.com/pipermail/pdxlug/2005-May/003231.html
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21:49 <spidey> wrtlprnft, what os?
21:54 <wejp> if it is an socket 939 system one can be sure that it needs ddr ram. socket 370, slot 1 and slot a always need sd-ram
21:55 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: fix sound yet? =p
22:01 <spidey> Lucifer_arma = gone
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22:15 <madmax|pt> luke-jr_: the tail thing in bugfarm fort
22:15 <madmax|pt> or should i say, the no tail thing
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22:56 <wrtlprnft> spidey: joda_bot: Linux of course
22:57 <wrtlprnft> it's about getting more RAM for my server, but I don't wanna lose my uptime just for opening it
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23:00 <wejp> wrtlprnft: what kind of cpu does that server have?
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23:05 <wrtlprnft> model name      : Pentium II (Deschutes)
23:05  * wrtlprnft doesn't know anything about hardware
23:06 <wejp> then you need sd-ram, pc100 should be enough, pc133 is okay too of course
23:06 <wejp> maybe the mainboard of that computer is too old to handle large modules
23:07 <wrtlprnft> ga
23:07 <wrtlprnft> h
23:07 <wrtlprnft> it has three slots i think
23:07 <wejp> so if you insert >128 mb modules it might only detect 128 mb of each module
23:07 <wrtlprnft> long time since i last opened it
23:07 <wejp> yeah 3 or 4 slots are common
23:07 <wrtlprnft> guess i have to look at some stupid siemens site to find the exact specs
23:08 <wejp> if you run "lspci" you can find out more about the chipset used
23:08 <wrtlprnft> RAM is pci?!
23:08 <wejp> no it is not, but the memory controller is part of the chipset 
23:09 <wejp> how much memory do you currently have in that machine?
23:09 <wrtlprnft> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (rev 03)
23:09 <wrtlprnft> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge (rev 03)
23:09 <wejp> ah, ok 440BX chipset
23:09 <wrtlprnft> root@butler # free -m                                             /home/mathias total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
23:09 <wrtlprnft> Mem:           122        120          2          0         30         38
23:10 <wejp> that is a pretty good chipset
23:10 <wrtlprnft> that think actually is a server machine
23:10 <wrtlprnft> *thing
23:10 <wrtlprnft> i bought it used a few years ago
23:10 <wejp> oh and the cpu you are using can't handle more than 512 MB ram total
23:11 <wrtlprnft> well, if i can only have 128MB sticks...
23:11 <wrtlprnft> and 3 of them...
23:11 <wejp> yeah that should work
23:11 <wrtlprnft> any chance i can keep the old stick?
23:12 <wejp> if curently only one module is installed you can keep it of course
23:12 <wejp> if you have 2 * 32 + 1 * 64 you're out of luck though ;)
23:12 <wrtlprnft> it's one module i think
23:13 <wrtlprnft> but they don't need to have the same bus frequency or whatever?
23:13 <wejp> ok, then just add one or two modules
23:13 <wejp> they will run at 66 MHz anyway, so it does not matter if you insert PC66, PC100 or PC133 modules
23:14 <wejp> so if you buy new ones you will most likely get PC133
23:14 <wrtlprnft> time for a new server i guess :S
23:14 <wejp> hehe yeah ;)
23:15 <wrtlprnft> gah, gonna be busy tomorrow emerging xorg 7
23:15 <wejp> hehe, i've done that already :D
23:15 <wrtlprnft> last time i tried it worked, but screwed up badly when i closed the cover of my notebook
23:15 <wrtlprnft> ie crashed the whole thing
23:15 <wejp> oh
23:15 <wejp> works fine here so far
23:16 <wrtlprnft> I'd so much like to seriously try XGL without needing to keep te cover open 24/7
23:17 <wejp> i've tried a live cd with xgl a while ago. it looks really nice, but slows down everything quite a bit
23:18 <wrtlprnft> i tried to run one in qemu
23:19 <wrtlprnft> with the result that i waited ten minutes for it to boot just to have it said it didn't support the emulated graphics card
23:19 <wejp> hehe ;)
23:23 -!- Netsplit over, joins: [NP]Tangent
23:30 <wrtlprnft> opera has a tendency to eat all my memory over time :S
23:31 <wrtlprnft> o_O that was more than 550MB it just freed
23:31 <wrtlprnft> out of 1024
23:31 <wejp> firefox does the same after a while
23:32 <wrtlprnft> well, i have to admit i have 58 tabs open
23:33 <wejp> hehehe, looks familiar :D
23:33 <wejp> i usually have lots of tabs open
23:33 <wrtlprnft> in 10 rows
23:34 <wrtlprnft> the bad habit comes from the fact that opera saves the tabs it has open if you exit it
23:34 <wrtlprnft> so you never lose them all
23:34 <wrtlprnft> unless you do something stupid
23:35 <wrtlprnft> like, press stupid keybindings that close them all
23:35 <wejp> yeah i like that, i had a plugin for firefox which did the same but lost the plugin when upgrading to firefox 1.5
23:35 <wrtlprnft> opera can do that since version 6 (or earlier, that was when i first tried opera)
23:36 <wejp> yeah i know
23:36 <wrtlprnft> couldn't live without it
23:36 <wrtlprnft> and mouse gestures
23:36 <wrtlprnft> and shift+arrow keys
23:36 <wrtlprnft> and mail
23:36 <wrtlprnft> and rss
23:36 <wrtlprnft> and userjs
23:36 <wejp> i've never liked mouse gestures. tried that once but didn't like it. maybe i should have tried a little longer though
23:37 <wrtlprnft> it's just soo handy if you click on links and don't have your finger on the keyboard
23:37 <wrtlprnft> hitting some back button in the edge of the screen is just too annoying
23:37 <wrtlprnft> i hate that every time i have to use ie
23:38 <wejp> in firefox you can use the backspace key to go back
23:38 <wrtlprnft> in opera too
23:38 <wejp> ah ok
23:38 <wrtlprnft> but if i have a mose (usually don't anymore) i don't have my inger on that key
23:38 <wrtlprnft> *finger
23:39 <wrtlprnft> *mouse
23:39 <wrtlprnft> uh, sign that i should go to bed
23:39 <wejp> ;)
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23:58 <spidey> wrtlprnft, just open the case and look at the room :p
23:58 <luke-jr_> RSS sucks
23:58 <spidey> ram*
23:59 <spidey> or did you find it out alrerady?
23:59  * spidey 's brain is lagging

Log from 2006-07-10:
--- Day changed Mon Jul 10 2006
00:03 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5609 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tron/ (gCycle.cpp gCycle.h gCycleMovement.cpp gCycleMovement.h): More high timestep accuracy fixes to rubber code. The beginning of rubber usage is now precisely simulated to, we at least try to do the same for the end of rubber usage (it's less important there).
00:04 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5610 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Streamlined delays. Less delays are made, the console output is no longer forced between rounds, making ping measurements less bouncy then.
00:05 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5611 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tools/tConfiguration.cpp: Disabled veto debug messages.
00:08 <wrtlprnft> spidey: the whole point eas
00:08 <wrtlprnft> spidey: was to not open the case
00:08 <spidey> why not?
00:08 <wrtlprnft> #u
00:08 <spidey> it's just a few skrews
00:08 <armabot> spidey: 00:08:03 up 79 days, 11 min, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
00:08 <wrtlprnft> isn't screws at all
00:08 <spidey> well
00:08 <spidey> then what's the problem?
00:08 <wrtlprnft> but I'd have to lose that uptime for that
00:08 <spidey> no you wouldn't....
00:08 <spidey> i open my case all the time without shutting down
00:09 <wrtlprnft> well
00:09 <wrtlprnft> the server is trapped between my desk and the wall
00:09 <wrtlprnft> and some of the cables are too short to pull it out
00:09 <wrtlprnft> including the power one
00:09 <spidey> move the desk?
00:09 <wrtlprnft> uh, nothanks
00:09 <wrtlprnft> too much stuff on it and in its drawers
00:10 <wrtlprnft> uh, and the stuff in one of the drawers includes a huge power bar everything is plugged into
00:13 <spidey> what domain should i get
00:13 <wrtlprnft> and anyways, you're talking to a hardware noob. I couldn't disguinish a sdram module from a ddr one if it doesn't have "DDR" or "SDRAM" printed on it
00:13 <wrtlprnft> in big red letters, that is
00:13 <spidey> wrtlprnft, it says on the ram....
00:14 <wrtlprnft> in big red letters?
00:14 <spidey> no
00:14 <spidey> lol
00:14 <spidey> ok
00:15  * wrtlprnft doesn't even know for sure if it's DDR ram or DRR ram
00:15 <wrtlprnft> RDD? RRD? RRR? DDD? RDR? DRD?
00:17 <spidey> lol
00:17 <spidey> it's ddr
00:17 <spidey> there's 
00:17 <spidey> DDR
00:17 <spidey> DDR2
00:17 <spidey> sd
00:17 <mkzelda> rd is another
00:17 <spidey> dimm
00:17 <spidey> simm
00:17 <spidey> rd ?
00:17 <spidey> O_o
00:17 <mkzelda> RDRAM
00:17 <mkzelda> its on this computer
00:17 <mkzelda> rambus
00:17 <spidey> wrtlprnft, when you add the ram you're gonna lose the uptime anyways
00:17 <spidey> :)
00:18 <mkzelda> 400mhz rambus was out when competition only had 133mhz
00:18 <mkzelda> got abandoned due to retarded licensing
00:18 <mkzelda> intel only
00:18 <mkzelda> boycotted even
00:18 <mkzelda> rambus made dumb business moves
00:18 <mkzelda> now they have ram measured in ghz in R&D
00:19 <spidey> O_o
00:19 <mkzelda> they're so far ahead of their time and they're so gonna fuck it up again
00:19 <spidey> dude
00:19 <spidey> my ram's only clocked at 133mhz
00:19 <spidey> :/
00:20 <mkzelda> i bought up a ton of p4 motherboards that support rdram
00:20 <mkzelda> cause they're nice/solid
00:20 <spidey> mmm
00:20 <mkzelda> i have 15 or so unused p4 motherboards
00:20 <wrtlprnft> spidey: i know i will then
00:20 <spidey> gimme one!
00:21 <mkzelda> support 1.3-2.0ghz socket 423, and 2.0-2.2ghz 478's
00:21 <wrtlprnft> but that might be a while until i get up and actually buy the stuff
00:21 <mkzelda> just bought 2x1.3ghz procs for $5 + $10 s/h on ebay
00:21 <spidey> whoa
00:21 <spidey> O_o
00:21 <mkzelda> a 1.6ghz for $20
00:21 <mkzelda> shipped
00:21 <spidey> omg
00:22 <madmax|pt> o_O
00:22 <mkzelda> i'll sell you a board for for whatever shipping costs + $10
00:22 <mkzelda> i bought 40
00:22 <mkzelda> at one point
00:22 <mkzelda> still have 15 or so left
00:22 <spidey> gimme a few days, and i'll see
00:22 <spidey> paypal takes forever to transfer funds
00:23 <spidey> i still got $40 waiting to be transfered from 2 days ago
00:23 <spidey> :/
00:23 <wrtlprnft> #night
00:23 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
00:24 <mkzelda>  they are intel boards
00:24 <mkzelda> Intel D850GB, drawbacks are usb1.1 and agp 4x
00:24 <spidey> supprt p4's?
00:24 <spidey> i gotta p4 at 2.2ghz
00:24 <mkzelda> older (socket 423) p4s
00:24 <mkzelda> and sock 478 w/ a $10 adapter
00:24 <mkzelda> up to 2.2ghz
00:24 <spidey> 3 years olds
00:25 <spidey> i think
00:25 <mkzelda> and they support a lot more ram than they claim
00:25 <spidey> it's the default in the first deminsion 2400's
00:25 <mkzelda> it claims to only support pc600 and pc800
00:25 <mkzelda> but i have not only put pc700 and pc1066 in it, i've mixed the two
00:25 <mkzelda> rdram has to be installed in pairs
00:25 <mkzelda> i had the pairs matching
00:25 <mkzelda> but a pair of pc700 and a pair of 1066
00:26 <mkzelda> and it worked, and the bios reported them as such
00:26 <mkzelda> and the os ran smoothly
00:26 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5612 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/ (10 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)
00:26 <armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 5607 to 5611:
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00:26 <armabot> armagetronad:  Disabled veto debug messages.
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00:26 <armabot> armagetronad:  r5610 | z-man | 2006-07-10 00:04:45 +0200 (Mon, 10 Jul 2006) | 1 line
00:27 <mkzelda> http://computers.listings.ebay.com/Memory-for-Desktop-PC_RDRAM_W0QQfclZ1QQfromZ1883QQlotrZ4QQsacatZ11152QQsocmdZListingItemList
00:27 <mkzelda> the ram is the most expensive part you'll find w/ these boards, cause thats the advantage of them
00:27 <mkzelda> but u can see the prices there
00:27 <mkzelda> and decide if you're still interested
00:27 <mkzelda> and remember u must install in pairs (and u must put in CRIMMS in any blank spots)
00:28 <mkzelda> Continuity rimms
00:28 <mkzelda> they're just blanks
00:28 <mkzelda> they cost $1 each
00:28 <mkzelda> i can sell ya 2 w/ the board if needed, if u decide u want one
00:29 <spidey> O_o
00:29 <mkzelda> i get the ram cheap by buying single rdram sticks, since they must be installed in pairs and someone only has one to get rid of
00:34 <spidey> actually
00:34 <spidey> i won't be able to next month
00:34 <spidey> but gimme a bit
00:34 <spidey> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1717760&CatId=318    <<< i'm getting that
00:34 <spidey> ;x
00:36 <mkzelda> i live right by a tigerdirect
00:36 <mkzelda> thats where i bought the 40 motherboards
00:36 <mkzelda> heh
00:36 <mkzelda> they know me there
00:37 <spidey> lol
00:38 <mkzelda> thats $10 cheaper than anywhere else i can find
00:38 <spidey>  Maximum Resolution   	2048 x 1536 @ 60Hz
00:38 <spidey> i'll love that
00:38 <spidey> i'm at 1280x1024 right now
00:38 <spidey> and still need more room
00:38 <spidey> lol
00:39 <mkzelda> i try to avoid the rebates from there tho
00:39 <spidey> mmm
00:39 <mkzelda> a lot of times i'll submit one and the company will write back and say i dont qualify
00:39 <spidey> LOL'
00:40 <spidey> Operating Systems Support
00:40 <spidey>     * Windows� XP (Home or Professional)
00:40 <spidey>     * Windows� XP Media Center 2005�
00:40 <spidey> awe man
00:40 <Lucifer_arma> I'm at 1280x800 and find plenty of room
00:40 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, x800!!!???
00:40 <spidey> pssh i wouldn't live
00:41 <Lucifer_arma> I am spread across 4 desktops, though
00:41 <Lucifer_arma> so it's really 1280x800x4 :)
00:41 <spidey> i got 2,and both are usually loaded down
00:41 <Lucifer_arma> that's with a 80pixel wide kicker on the right side of the desktop, too
00:41 <spidey> O_o
00:42 <mkzelda> my server has 3 heads
00:42 <Lucifer_arma> my dick has 4 heads
00:42 <mkzelda> crazy
00:42 <mkzelda> thats taking dpg to a new level
00:42 <Lucifer_arma> I can satisfy 4 people at once, provided they lay really close to each other
00:42 <spidey> lol
00:43 <mkzelda> i make videos, we'll talk
00:43  * Lucifer_arma thinks he just bombed his calc test
00:43 <mkzelda> i know this chick w/ 2 buttholes, so u can fill 3 holes and have her jerk the other off
00:44 <mkzelda> or maybe doubly penetrate the vag
00:44 <Lucifer_arma> well, she has to have real little hands, because the 5-inch length is divided by the 4 heads
00:44 <mkzelda> so its more like a mushroom cluster
00:44 <spidey> http://cgi.ebay.com/2GB-Infineon-2x-1G-PC2100-DDR-ECC-266MHz-184-Pin-RAM_W0QQitemZ250006068904QQihZ015QQcategoryZ74942QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
00:45 <spidey> i might get that
00:45 <spidey> O_o
00:46 <spidey> er
00:46 <spidey> i can't
00:46 <spidey> forgot
00:46 <spidey> my board uses pc2700
00:46 <spidey> :/
00:47 <mkzelda> you can go lower
00:47 <mkzelda> usually
00:47 <mkzelda> u just dont want to
00:48 <spidey> actually
00:48 <mkzelda> my ram has leds on it like kit
00:48 <spidey> i can't remember what type
00:48 <Lucifer_arma> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5162510.stm  <-- Bloods and Crips, anyone?
00:48 <spidey> i know both box's use the same type
00:48 <spidey> bloods
00:48 <spidey> crypts
00:48 <spidey> hold on lemme find this cd
00:49 <mkzelda> bloods own the territory where i work
00:49 <mkzelda> all the kids who come to my pool try to teach me the handshake
00:49 <mkzelda> they call cigarettes bigarettes
00:49 <mkzelda> they're pretty stupid
00:49 <mkzelda> hehe
00:50 <spidey> ok
00:50 <spidey> my brother ( the fuckin idiot) wrote this
00:50 <spidey> it's on a cd for some reason
00:50 <spidey> MUTHAFUCKAS RIGHT BACK...... HoMiEs TiLL ThE FuCkIn EnD !! AnD AfTeR ThAt We StILL 
00:50 <spidey> RiDe In H3AvEn! ThI Is A TeSt T0 SeE H0W MaNy H0M13S Y0u H4v3...
00:50 <madmax|pt> o_O
00:50 <spidey> yar
00:51 <spidey> he's also in a kiddie prison now
00:51 <mkzelda> how'd he fit that on a cd
00:51 <spidey> for 6-8 months
00:51 <spidey> lol
00:51 <mkzelda> really thin sharpee?
00:51 <spidey> hahahaha
00:51 <Lucifer_arma> I used to know the BK and the CK signs, and I'd use them opposite what they're supposed to be used
00:51 <spidey> no a .txt
00:51 <Lucifer_arma> i.e. if I was with a blood, I'd show him BK, and if I was with a crip, I'd show CK
00:51 <mkzelda> yea i was kidding
00:51 <Lucifer_arma> I was exempt from retaliation by virtue of worshipping the devil :)
00:52 <mkzelda> haha
00:52 <spidey> haha
00:52 <mkzelda> im a white boy with an afro
00:52 <mkzelda> i fit in w/ just about anyone b/c i shouldnt fit in w/ anyone
00:52 <Lucifer_arma> just tell them you worship satan, those gangsters are little pussies
00:52 <spidey> tell them you raped there mother
00:52 <spidey> then see if they're still pussies
00:52 <spidey> :p
00:52 <Lucifer_arma> I worked with a crip back at the burger joint, and he used to talk all this shit to me
00:53 <Lucifer_arma> one night I got tired of it and went off back at him, and he backed down to "wait till I have my friends with me"
00:53 <Lucifer_arma> which of course turned into "You need your friends to take me?  You little wuss <long string of curses>"
00:53 <mkzelda> i kicked a kid out the other day who kept running his mouth. a coworker told him to 'stfu, nobody loves you'
00:53 <spidey> hahaha
00:53 <mkzelda> haha, he did and hasnt run his mouth since
00:53 <mkzelda> that cut deeper than anything anyone says
00:54 <mkzelda> he actually processed it and realized nobody loves him
00:54 <Lucifer_arma> ouch
00:54 <Lucifer_arma> heh
00:54 <Lucifer_arma> next time I saw this guy with his friends, they just sat there and tried to pretend I wsn't there.  Hard to do with me standing 10 feet from them staring at each in turn,
00:54 <mkzelda> yea, i got in a fight w/ a 300+ lb guy a few years ago, he went and got 5 more 300+ lb guys
00:54 <Lucifer_arma> but oh well.
00:54 <mkzelda> i dont even way 150
00:55 <mkzelda> weigh
00:55 <mkzelda> he was calling me a pussy cause i wouldnt come out of my dorm room
00:55 <mkzelda> but who's the pussy w/ 1500lbs
00:55 <Lucifer_arma> well, I was just thinking the correct counter was to go get your car...
00:56 <mkzelda> was dorm room battle, had no resources other than my room
00:57 <spidey> grab a brick or something
00:57 <mkzelda> i did a lot of yelling at him from my window and he backed down, i guess cause he didnt think i'd even go that far, intimidation apparently always worked for him
00:57 <spidey> crack it on there head
00:57 <spidey> xD
00:57 <spidey> besides
00:57 <spidey> they're all 300+kbs?
00:57 <spidey> they gotta be slow :p
00:57 <Lucifer_arma> 300+kbs is pretty fast...
00:57 <spidey> just run around
00:57 <spidey> lol
00:57 <spidey> 300+lbs!
00:58 <Lucifer_arma> just piss on them, probably vain as hell
00:58 <Lucifer_arma> and damn, if the mutherfucker's crazy enough to piss on me, what else is he gonna do?
00:58 <spidey> LOL
00:59 <mkzelda> there was no way out
00:59 <mkzelda> he pissed on my door
00:59 <mkzelda> when i wouldnt leave
00:59 <mkzelda> :/
00:59 <spidey> lol
00:59 <mkzelda> fun days
01:00 <Lucifer_arma> I gotta admit, I've always wanted an opportunity to try out my guitar as a weapon, and that's mostly to see the psychological impact of a long-haired unshaven guy wielding a black lightning bolt
01:00 <Lucifer_arma> besides, it'll probably make a good stabber, seeing as how the head ends on a sharp point :)
01:00 <mkzelda> haha i do have a crazy lookin pointy guitar
01:01 <mkzelda> or use the strings where u clip them to cut
01:01 <mkzelda> slice
01:01 <mkzelda> x6
01:01 <Lucifer_arma> I always consider it a bludgeoning weapon
01:02 <Lucifer_arma> and if the strings and bridge do damage along the way, so much the better, long as it doesn't get stuck to anybody's face
01:02 <mkzelda>  yea its hard to play guitar w/s omeone';s face stuck to the end
01:02 <guru3> i want to disapear :(
01:03 <Lucifer_arma> but I think of the scene at the end of the Nothing But A Good Time video where the lead singer swings the guitar around by the strap and trashes it
01:03 <guru3> parents just got back from their trip
01:03 <guru3> and now they're all mad @ me
01:03 <Lucifer_arma> ah oh
01:03 <guru3> i do believe
01:03 <guru3> they've already stuck me in the
01:03 <guru3> 'fuck up' collimn
01:03 <Lucifer_arma> wanna borrow my guitar, guru3 ?
01:03 <guru3> *collumn
01:03 <guru3> can't play the guitar :/
01:03 <spidey> LOL
01:03 <mkzelda> what'd u do?
01:03 <mkzelda> throw a party while they're gone?
01:03 <guru3> exam results
01:04 <spidey> O_o
01:04 <guru3> i only graduated damnit
01:04 <mkzelda> oh
01:04 <guru3> should have not graduated
01:04 <guru3> probably wouldn't be any angrier
01:04 <guru3> and i coulda done less work
01:04 <Lucifer_arma> needed a 6 6 5 and got a 6 5 5
01:04 <guru3> "oh god! a passing grade! shame on you!"
01:04 <spidey> heh
01:04 <mkzelda> yea stupid
01:04 <mkzelda> why'd u do that
01:04 <spidey> was it a low passing grade?
01:04 <Lucifer_arma> well, when I was a kid, I established quite early for my parents that they couldn't talk enough shit to get me to do better in school, and they were happy I graduated
01:04 <guru3> "you may not go to a first tier engineering school! whatever will we do!"
01:04 <mkzelda> haha
01:05 <guru3> "better learn swedish so you can go to school for free!"
01:05 <spidey> lol
01:05 <mkzelda> i used to lie to my parents about my grades
01:05 <guru3> honestly.
01:05 <guru3> what are they thinking
01:05 <mkzelda> but i'd always low-ball it
01:05 <mkzelda> so they'd be pleasantly surprised
01:05 <guru3> they should try taking it well that i didn't lie damnit
01:05 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, I had to have them sign the thing, and I couldn't forge for shit
01:05 <mkzelda> i mostly got straight a's
01:05 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, sign it eh
01:06 <mkzelda> and i'd tell them i had a C
01:06 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, i just pretended to lose mine
01:06 <guru3> mkzelda: "pleasently suprised"
01:06 <Lucifer_arma> oh.  Heh, I think I got maybe 4 As total in high school
01:06 <spidey> lol
01:06 <mkzelda> any time they asked
01:06 <guru3> that's my phrase heh
01:06 <guru3> i need "a clear picture of what i need to do"
01:06 <Lucifer_arma> see if you can go to UT instead, it's first-tier engineering, isn't it?
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01:06 <mkzelda> utwente?
01:06 <Lucifer_arma> as a backup plan, of course
01:06 <Lucifer_arma> no, University of Texas
01:07 <guru3> could i come & live with you? ><
01:07 <Lucifer_arma> heh, I don't have enough bedrooms for the kids I already have here.  :(
01:07 <guru3> maybe if i'd convince them it'd be cheaper :/
01:07  * Lucifer_arma wonders if it would be cheaper, UT's expensive
01:07 <guru3> i could probably survive living in a tent in the back yard
01:07 <guru3> well striking the uni
01:07 <guru3> could i just live in the backyard?
01:08 <Lucifer_arma> I think it's ~$20,000/year if you stay in a dorm
01:08 <guru3> feels like that'd be preferable at the moment
01:08 <spidey> anyone got teamspeak?
01:08  * spidey needs to test this thingy
01:08 <Lucifer_arma> ummm, that's for in-state
01:09 <mkzelda> hows this teamspeak work
01:09 <mkzelda> i want it
01:09 <spidey> it's voice chat
01:09 <spidey> and you need a mic :p
01:09 <spidey> lucifer you got it don't you??
01:09 <mkzelda> ill use some headphones if i have to'
01:09 <spidey> www.goteamspeak.com
01:09 <mkzelda> sounds like crap :)
01:10 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.utexas.edu/business/accounting/sar/t_f_rates.html
01:10 <guru3> gargh this sucks
01:10 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: I don't have it since I had to restore my system
01:10 <spidey> :/
01:10 <spidey> guru3 don't you got it? O_o
01:10 <guru3> i do
01:11 <spidey> teamspeak.spidey.no-ip.org   << try to connect to that
01:11 <guru3> but like fuck am i going to make noise right now
01:11 <spidey> you don't have to,just try to connect :)
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01:11 <guru3> nope
01:11 <guru3> don't think i will
01:11 <spidey> :(
01:12 <guru3> /bin/sh: teamspeak.spidey.no-ip.org: command not found
01:12 <guru3> teamspeak.spidey.no-ip.org does not exist, try again
01:12 <spidey> ?
01:12 <spidey> you can't ping it or anything
01:12 <guru3> your hostname
01:12 <guru3> is non existent
01:12 <spidey> of course
01:12 <spidey> it's a subdomain
01:12 <guru3> so i'm betting trying to connect
01:12 <spidey> it won't show
01:12 <spidey> :p
01:12 <guru3> wouldn't owrk
01:12 <spidey> now
01:13 <guru3> ?
01:13 <spidey> spidey.no-ip.org
01:13 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.engineering-colleges.info/Search/Top_Ranked/top_undergrad.htm
01:13 <spidey> that works
01:13 <Lucifer_arma> UT is at least in the top 50, that list is alphabetical order
01:13 <spidey> teamspeak.spidey.no-ip.org doesn't because it's a subdomain
01:14 <Vanhayes> damnit, whenever you do that my armagetron client pauses
01:14 <spidey> lol
01:14 <Lucifer_arma> it's also us-centric
01:14 <Lucifer_arma> whenever I do what?
01:15 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.engineering-colleges.info/Profiles2/U_Texas_Austin.htm
01:16 <Lucifer_arma> in the top 10 for most of its engineering programs, a few are in the teens instead.  You could do worse.  :)
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01:16 <Lucifer_arma> "most" should be read as "about half"
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01:43 <spidey> wtf @ this country station playing old ass music
01:44 <spidey> gah
01:44 <spidey> i ran outta water
01:44 <spidey> guess i'm drinking orange juice with my chicken :/
01:50 <Vanhayes> orange juice is good
01:50 <spidey> i like water better
01:50 <spidey> it's all i drink
01:50 <spidey> i drink 6 16.9oz bottles a day
01:50 <spidey> if not more
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02:04 <Vanhayes> #g s6.9 oz in litres
02:04 <armabot> Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
02:04 <Vanhayes> #g 6.9 oz in litres
02:04 <armabot> 6.9 US fluid ounces = 0.204057355 litres
02:04 <Vanhayes> #g 0.204057355 * 6
02:04 <armabot> 0.204057355 * 6 = 1.22434413
02:05 <Vanhayes> #g 6.9 oz in litres *6
02:05 <armabot> Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
02:05 <Vanhayes> #g 6.9 oz in litres * 6
02:05 <armabot> Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
02:06 <Vanhayes> I like juice, it tastes better than water
02:07 <madmax|pt> you should drink 1.5 litres a day :P
02:07 <spidey> um
02:08 <spidey> they're 500ml bottles
02:08 <spidey> 16.9oz = 500ml
02:08 <spidey> :)
02:08 <madmax|pt> glup
02:09 <madmax|pt> nvm then
02:09 <madmax|pt> lol
02:09 <spidey> #g 16.9oz in liter
02:09 <armabot> 16.9 US fluid ounces = 0.499792652 liter
02:09 <spidey> 16.9*6
02:09 <madmax|pt> liter, litres o_O
02:09 <spidey> #g 16.9*6
02:09 <armabot> 16.9 * 6 = 101.4
02:09 <spidey> #g 101oz in liters
02:09 <armabot> 101 US fluid ounces = 2.9869265 liters
02:09 <spidey> i drink that much
02:09 <spidey> :)
02:09 <spidey> or more
02:10  * spidey continues to compile gyachE
02:11 <madmax|pt> what's that?
02:11 <spidey> a yahoo client
02:11 <spidey> with voice
02:12  * madmax|pt goes to bed.
02:12 <madmax|pt> good night
02:12 <spidey> cya
02:13 <Vanhayes> night madmax|pt 
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02:22 <nemostultae> hi
02:23 <Vanhayes> hello
02:30 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r5613 /tools/map-preview/ (. branches/ tags/ trunk/): map-preview directories
02:34 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r5614 /tools/map-preview/trunk/ (17 files in 6 dirs): importing map-preview
02:38 <spidey> 97% [=================================> ] 45,462,560   676.48K/s    ETA 00:01
02:38 <spidey> :>
02:39 <nemostultae> :<
02:41 <spidey> 90% [==============================>    ] 42,047,024     9.30M/s    ETA 00:00
02:41 <spidey> pwn
02:41 <spidey> i need a faster server to test the speed of this server
02:42 <spidey> i got 9mb/s off a 1gbps server
02:42 <Vanhayes> it went from 97% to 90& ?
02:42 <Vanhayes> er 90%*
02:43 <spidey> no
02:43 <spidey> the first download
02:43 <spidey> was from a 1gbps server
02:43 <spidey> the second
02:43 <spidey> was from a gbit server
02:45 <Vanhayes> I see
02:47 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r5615 /tools/map-preview/trunk/ (. Rakefile):
02:47 <armabot> armagetronad: * Ignore generated files
02:47 <armabot> armagetronad: * coverage should go in doc/
02:47 <Vanhayes> argh thats the stuff that laggs me
02:47 <nemostultae> the commit messages?
02:47 <Vanhayes> yes
02:47 <Vanhayes> 3 little skips while playing tron
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02:58  * spidey trips Fonkay 
02:58 <Vanhayes> hey fonkay
03:06 <Fonkay> hey
03:07 <spidey> bah
03:07 <nemostultae> moo?
03:07 <spidey> acid@server [~/tron/armagetronad-linux-]# ./install
03:07 <spidey> Making directories...
03:07 <spidey> install: cannot change permissions of `/usr/local/bin': Operation not permitted
03:07 <spidey> Installation failed. Bin folder does not exist and cannot be created.
03:09 <luke-jr_> spidey: you're not root
03:09 <spidey> yar
03:09 <luke-jr_> spidey: build from source?
03:09 <spidey> not sure how i would do that,i can't compile on the server
03:09 <luke-jr_> why not?
03:10 <Vanhayes> #google fonsac
03:10 <armabot> Vanhayes: Search took 0.18 seconds: The Round Table of Bretonnia - Literature: <http://www.roundtable-bretonnia.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=category&sectionid=4&id=40&Itemid=27>; The Round Table of Bretonnia - Literature: <http://www.roundtable-bretonnia.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=section&id=4&Itemid=27>; FONSAC :::: Servicios Integrales: <http://www.fonsac.com/>; (2 more messages)
03:10 <luke-jr_> and why are you using such an old version?
03:10 <Vanhayes> er
03:10 <spidey> luke-jr_, the new version won't install
03:10 <spidey> sec
03:11 <Fonkay> hi again
03:12 <spidey> luke-jr_, 
03:12 <spidey> An error occured while trying to ask the user for the password: Unable to allocate a pseudo terminal: Exec format error
03:12 <spidey> Attempting to continue without asking for password...
03:12 <spidey> autopackage/install: line 1: /sbin/ldconfig: No such file or directory
03:12 <spidey> The version of glib needs to be upgraded to version 2.0 or higher.
03:12 <spidey> The autopackage support code could not be installed.
03:12 <spidey> It can be manually downloaded and installed by running the
03:12 <spidey> installation script located in the downloaded archive.
03:12 <Fonkay> sstupid arma
03:12 <luke-jr_> I see
03:13 <spidey> and i forget why i can't compile it on the server
03:13 <spidey> something about the libs i think
03:14 <luke-jr_> checking how to run the C preprocessor... /lib/cpp
03:14 <luke-jr_> configure: error: C preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
03:14 <luke-jr_> See `config.log' for more details.
03:14 <spidey> ?
03:14 <luke-jr_> that's why
03:14 <spidey> anything i can do?
03:17 <luke-jr_> ./armagetronad-dedicated- -x
03:17 <luke-jr_> acid@server [~/aa/armagetronad-dedicated-]# ./armagetronad-dedicated
03:17 <luke-jr_> [0] Bound socket to *.*.*.*:49331.
03:17 <luke-jr_> tada
03:17 <spidey> O_o
03:17 <luke-jr_> /home/acid/aa/armagetronad-dedicated-
03:18 <luke-jr_> have fun
03:18 <spidey> sweet xD
03:18 <spidey> now how'd you do that O_o
03:19 <luke-jr_> -x on the autopackage
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03:19 <spidey> mmm
03:19 <luke-jr_> it extracts the files instead of trying to install
03:19 <spidey> ah
03:19 <spidey> thanks,lol
03:19 <spidey> now to find it on the list
03:19 <spidey> lol
03:19 <spidey> oh,brb dogs
03:20 <luke-jr_> gotta put a name and stuff
03:20 <luke-jr_> lol
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03:27 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r5616 /tools/map-preview/trunk/lib/map_preview/parser.rb: Should only add Point to map model if in Wall element. ShapeCircle has a Point element, too.
03:27 <spidey> the server still running?
03:27 <spidey> i let the 2 labs in the house and the chihuahua went nuts
03:27 <spidey> lmao
03:28 <luke-jr_> no
03:28 <spidey> k
03:29 <spidey> i'll just make a autoexec.cfg
03:29 <luke-jr_> you need to make server_info.cfg
03:29 <luke-jr_> and run it in the bg
03:29 <luke-jr_> autoexec.cfg is client, not server
03:29 <spidey> it works for the server to :)
03:29 <luke-jr_> o
03:29 <luke-jr_> where's it go
03:29 <luke-jr_> I could use that
03:29 <spidey> in the config dir
03:29 <luke-jr_> so people don't change my server name >:O
03:29 <spidey> haha
03:30 <spidey> could put the server name in a everytime.cfg
03:31 <Vanhayes> if you can you might want to disable kick, kill, and ban commands
03:31 <spidey> you can't
03:31 <spidey> not when they got the admin pass
03:31 <spidey> :p
03:32 <luke-jr_> spidey: unless I change code
03:32 <spidey> true
03:32 <luke-jr_> I've been meaning to anyway
03:32 <luke-jr_> to add a respawn command
03:33 <luke-jr_> how do you use the kick command anyhow?
03:33 <luke-jr_> and kill
03:33 <spidey>  /admin kill playernumber
03:33 <spidey>  /admin kick playernumber
03:33 <luke-jr_> I try 'kill Vanhayes' and it says no such person
03:33 <spidey> no
03:33 <spidey> first
03:33 <spidey>  /admin players
03:33 <spidey> it gives the numbers
03:33 <spidey> then
03:33 <Vanhayes> ya It should kill me tho
03:33 <luke-jr_> o
03:33 <luke-jr_> ok
03:33 <spidey>  /admin kill playernumber
03:33 <spidey>  /admin kick playernumber
03:34 <spidey> no
03:34 <spidey> it doesn't kill by name
03:34 <spidey> :P
03:34 <luke-jr_> hehe
03:34 <luke-jr_> I should spawn all players twice
03:34 <luke-jr_> nah, it wouldn't work
03:36 <nemostultae> luke-jr_: where is your hexatron map on the resource server?
03:36 <luke-jr_> nemostultae: there is no current hexatron map
03:36 <luke-jr_> someone needs to update it to a recent DTD
03:36 <luke-jr_> which won't be simple, since it used the stack
03:36 <luke-jr_> which is not supported in recent DTDs
03:37 <spidey> mm
03:37 <spidey> how do i disable the winzone?
03:38 <luke-jr_> shrug
03:38 <spidey> OR
03:38 <spidey> should i make it a fortress server?
03:38 <spidey> imagen the pings
03:38 <spidey> ;x
03:39 <Vanhayes> I already did before
03:39 <Vanhayes> pings were good
03:39 <luke-jr_> you know
03:39 <spidey> but
03:39 <spidey> on this server
03:39 <luke-jr_> the code suggests 'kill Vanhayes' should work
03:39 <spidey> pings will be tons low
03:40 <luke-jr_> maybe
03:40 <spidey> lets see
03:41 <spidey> ok
03:41 <spidey> lets see if i can remember how to upload via ssh
03:42 <luke-jr_> scp
03:46 <spidey> -Spidey-US-Fortress  look for it on the list O_o
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04:00 <spidey> wow
04:00 <spidey> even van has a nice ping
04:01 <Vanhayes> decent
04:01 <Vanhayes> a 30 would be nice, 90 is decent
04:01 <spidey> lol
04:01 <spidey> 30 is a admin level ping
04:02 <spidey> unless
04:02 <spidey> you're on the same node as the server
04:02 <spidey> then
04:02 <spidey> you get a admin ping
04:02 <spidey> when i hosted a server here at home and went to my moms
04:02 <spidey> 153+miles away
04:02 <spidey> i had a 16 ping in it
04:09 <Vanhayes> I just got silenced for 3000 seconds
04:10 <spidey> lol
04:15 <Vanhayes> nice
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04:22 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r5617 /tools/map-preview/trunk/lib/map_preview/renderer.rb: Draw spawn points as arrows. Still needs a little work
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05:17 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r5618 /tools/map-preview/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
05:17 <armabot> armagetronad: * Added #with_viewbox and adapted the rendering to use it
05:17 <armabot> armagetronad: * Corrected parameters passed into #viewbox
05:17 <armabot> armagetronad: * Added min bounds to the map model
05:17 <armabot> armagetronad: * Corrected a small typo in the NEWS.txt file
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05:23 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r5619 /tools/map-preview/trunk/lib/map_preview/renderer.rb: Don't compute viewbox width and height everytime
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> mmmmmmmmm
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> heh
05:37 <spidey> luci
05:37 <spidey> come to my sumo server :p
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> hey nemostultae , I just made a bunch of breakfast burritos and put them in the freezer :)
05:37 <spidey> it's actually named fortress
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> I grabbed a sharpie and wrote Breakfast Burrito [CA.US] on each one
05:39  * Lucifer_arma isn't telling the truth about writing on the burritos
05:40 <GodTodd> breakfast burritos rule if they're done right
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> that is the truth, GodTodd 
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> I put a pound a bacon, 2 pounds of potatoes, and 9 eggs
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> and threw a yellow onion and like 4 chopped green onions in with the potatoes
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> I'll eat the first one for breakfast tomorrow :)
05:41 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r5620 /tools/map-preview/trunk/lib/map_preview/ (map_model.rb renderer.rb): Spawn points now render correctly
05:41 <GodTodd> i put chorizo in them too sometimes
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> my wife figured they came out about $0.21/each
05:41 <GodTodd> that's about right
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> well, the bacon was sorta determined by her.  I just wanted a pound of meat, I'd have taken chicken or pork or whatever was cheapest.
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> The idea is a good nutritious breakfast that I can make in 2 minutes and eat in the car.  :)
05:42 <GodTodd> yep
05:42 <GodTodd> :)
05:42 <GodTodd> i need to make up a batch myself again
05:42 <nemostultae> hmm, negative coords are still not drawn correctly.
05:42 <GodTodd> we're about out
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> well, I got 25 out of those proportions, and that was with fajita-sized tortillas.  I can probably go up one size, not quite the burrito size, the one in between, and still get about 20 out of it
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> so, double everything to get 40, etc.  :)
05:43 <GodTodd> yep
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> only, I don't quite have a pan big enough.  Hmmm....
05:43 <GodTodd> i make them in the stock pot i have
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> nemostultae: you might check out the acme code in the old pygame version that Luke preserved
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> that problem is solved there to some extent
05:44 <GodTodd> could probably make a batch of 60-80 if i maxed it out...:)
05:44 <GodTodd> :)
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> I have a pot big enough to throw the stuff all in together, but it's like really big
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> it's huge
05:44 <nemostultae> I had it solved in the original map-preview, too. I switched this one to draw using a vector format so it is easier to scale and stuff.
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> I guess it depends on what you're after, too.  I like the potatoes to have little fried edges, too.
05:45 <GodTodd> true true
05:45 <Lucifer_arma> I'd have to give that up to cook in the large pot, or do the potatoes in two batches
05:45  * Lucifer_arma doesn't know anything about vector formats
05:45 <nemostultae> http://www.imagemagick.org/RMagick/doc/rvgtut.html :)
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> the bacon was a nice bonus, though.  I'd have gladly mixed some ground pork with some salt, peppercorns, and basil and called it sausage
05:46 <GodTodd> i get a decent amount of bacon for free....so i always have that on hand
05:47 <GodTodd> well...not free...but just about
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> ahhhh, it's the same origin problem you've got, I suppose
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> in acme I did some weird origin math on the fly
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> wait, does your origin in svg have to be the same as in pixmaps?  Where 0,0 is top-left?
05:49 <nemostultae> I set the origin the min bounds of the map
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> aha, I see the stuff about the coordinate system
05:50 <Lucifer_arma> so how are you figuring the bounds of the map?
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> like, width should be highest_x - lowest_x, and height is highest_y-lowest_y, right?
05:51 <nemostultae> Yea, I've done that
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> then it'd be nice if you could do two things.  :)  Flip the y axis, and move the origin
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> can you flip the y axis?  (reading to see)
05:52 <nemostultae> hmm, maybe flipping would do it, because the map isn't even in the image
05:53 <nemostultae> I'll flip when the min y bound is negative, maybe
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> well, you either flip the y axis itself, or you have to flip each point
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> well, if you leave the origin in the top left, you have to flip for all points
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> it looks like you have to flip the y coordinates no matter what
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> and that would be highest_y - current_y, iirc
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> the negative signs should take care of themselves, you shouldn't have to do anything special to take care of them
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> if you are, you're doing something wrong :)
05:56 <Lucifer_arma> seems like you want to place your origin at abs(lowest_x, lowest_y)
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> viewbox( abs(lowest_x), abs(lowest_y) , highest_x-lowest_x, highest_y-lowest_y )  <-- here's what I come up with for the viewbox call
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> then you should just need to flip each y coordinate, and make sure you understand the units being used.  :)
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> if I'm reading this webpage correctly (or skimming)
05:57 <nemostultae> hey, looked like that kinda worked
05:59 <nemostultae> hmm, still a little off. It is not coming out looking like this: http://generalconsumption.org/armagetron/map-preview/previews/Your_mom/ni2-0.0.1.png
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> heh
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> that looks pretty similar to one of the development shots of the maze maps :)
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> how does it compare to the original previewer?  Do you have that still up somewhere?
06:00 <nemostultae> The link above is from the original. The new one is in the subversion repo
06:00 <nemostultae> not yet on my site
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> ahhhh
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> ah, ok.  then that's a weird map.....heh
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06:21 <Your_mom_arma> i've been banned from lukes server by someon who isnt luke :-/
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> come on spidey, quit chatting
06:22 <Vanhayes> hmm
06:22  * Vanhayes pokes humanitarian
06:24 <nemostultae> Didn't he give out the admin pass?
06:24 <Your_mom_arma> yeah
06:24 <nemostultae> What is it, I'll uban you
06:24 <Your_mom_arma>  /login admin
06:24 <nemostultae> good pass
06:25 <Your_mom_arma> can you unban ingame?
06:25 <nemostultae> yea
06:26 <nemostultae> ok
06:26 <nemostultae> done
06:27 <Your_mom_arma> thanks
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> who's humanitarian?
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07:06 <mkzelda> how necessary is gcc fortran support that its a default use flag in gentoo profiles?
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07:07 <mkzelda> i mean, i thot fortran was old
07:08 <mkzelda> woooo boost compiling on my best machine
07:09 <mkzelda> just wont work on this one
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07:32 <Vanhayes> spidey, did you server crash?
07:32 <spidey> lucifer
07:32 <Lucifer_arma> spidey?
07:32 <spidey> think we got a bug
07:32 <spidey> [4] Humanitarian: this is with walls that never drop now?
07:32 <spidey> [0] Deleting objects...
07:32 <spidey> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
07:32 <spidey> acid@server [~/aa/armagetronad-dedicated-]#   
07:32 <Lucifer_arma> damn
07:32 <Lucifer_arma> that's in the stable release, too, isn't it?
07:32 <spidey> yea
07:32 <spidey> 2.8.2
07:32 <spidey> i restarted it
07:32 <Lucifer_arma> can you post your settings?
07:32 <spidey> um
07:32 <spidey> yea
07:32 <spidey> sec
07:33 <spidey> server_name servernamehere
07:33 <spidey> AMIN_PASS passwordhere
07:33 <spidey> include examples/cvs_test/sumo_complete.cfg
07:33 <spidey> TALK_TO_MASTER 1
07:33 <spidey> size_factor -1
07:33 <spidey> cycle_speed 15
07:33 <spidey> cycle_rubber 12
07:33 <spidey> cycle_accel 15
07:33 <spidey> cycle_brake_deplete .1
07:33 <spidey> walls_length 170
07:33 <Lucifer_arma> I assume there's no server side recording?
07:33 <spidey> nope
07:33 <spidey> :/
07:34 <spidey> know what
07:34 <spidey> i think it's that cycle_Walls_delay thing
07:34 <spidey> cause it was what 3 rounds after i changed it?
07:35 <Lucifer_arma> wasn't it the very next round after you changed it that it crashed?
07:36 <spidey> i think
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07:38 <spidey> yup
07:38 <Vanhayes> crashed?
07:38 <spidey> that's the problem
07:38 <Lucifer_arma> yay
07:38 <Lucifer_arma> I mean, damn, that sucked
07:38 <spidey> sLOL
07:38 <Lucifer_arma> mom was winning
07:38 <Vanhayes> lol
07:38 <spidey> lmao
07:38 <Lucifer_arma> start it in recording mode :)
07:39 <spidey> how?
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> let's make it crash again :)
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> armagetronad-dedicated --help ?
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> I think its --record filename.aarec
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> where .aarec is by convention
07:39 <spidey> ok
07:39 <spidey> got it
07:39 <spidey> started
07:40 <spidey> um
07:40 <Your_mom_arma> you sure?
07:40 <spidey> took forever to start
07:40 <spidey> lol
07:40 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
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07:43 <Your_mom_arma> hi
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> yay
07:48 <spidey> what's with the recording thing not crashing?
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> ok spidey, now send me the recording :)
07:48 <spidey> it didn't crash
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> ?  didn't it just crash?
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> oh, nvm then
07:48 <spidey> i restarted before the recording got bigger :p
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> ahhhh, ok
07:49 <spidey> what's this mean
07:49 <spidey> [0] User 1 does not know about netobject 2772 ( Nameless NetObject nr. 2772 ).
07:49 <spidey> [0] User 1 does not know about netobject 2771 ( Nameless NetObject nr. 2771 ).
07:49 <spidey> [0] User 1 does not know about netobject 2770 ( Nameless NetObject nr. 2770 ).
07:49 <spidey> [0] User 1 does not know about netobject 2769 ( Nameless NetObject nr.[0] User 1 does not know about netobject 2764 ( Team Vanhayes ).
07:49 <spidey> [0] User 1 does not know about netobject 2763 ( ePlayerNetID nr. 2763, name Vanhayes ).
07:49 <spidey> [0] User 1 does not know about netobject 2723 ( Nameless NetObject nr. 2723 ).
07:49 <spidey> [0] User 1 does not know about netobject 2722 ( Nameless NetObject nr. 2722 ).
07:49 <Vanhayes> huh?
07:49  * Lucifer_arma doesn't know
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> it means Vanhayes is a cheater!
07:49 <spidey> hahaha
07:49 <Vanhayes> damn u caught me
07:49 <Your_mom_arma> he's a witch
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=72271#72271  <--- reads like spam, but looks genuine
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> how do you know he's a witch?
07:51 <Your_mom_arma> i just assumed, lets tie rocks to his feet dump him in the ocean if he floats then he's a witch
07:52 <Your_mom_arma> or something to a limilar extent
07:52 <Your_mom_arma> similar even
07:52 <Vanhayes> like burning me at the stake? If I survive I am a witch
07:52 <Your_mom_arma> yep
07:57 <Your_mom_arma> cya guys
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08:04 <spidey> i think i'ma run a sumo server and tron server
08:04 <spidey> i can buy a cheap $5 shell with 2-3 background processes and run it
08:10 <spidey> lucifer
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> what?
08:11 <spidey> -rw-r--r--    1 32009    acid      3802194 Jul 10 06:48 buf.aarec
08:11 <spidey> -rw-------    1 32009    acid      2285568 Jul 10 06:31 core.27246
08:11 <spidey> -rw-------    1 32009    acid      2027520 Jul 10 06:38 core.28202
08:11 <spidey> what's those 2 core. files?
08:11 <spidey> they was made just before i started the recording
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> that's what happens when you core dump, a file is left
08:11 <spidey> oh
08:11 <spidey> coredump = crash?
08:12 <Lucifer_arma> you could post those to the thread I started on it if you'd like, I've never found much use for them, but that doesn't mean nobody will
08:12 <spidey> mmm
08:12 <spidey> i don't know what to say :/
08:12 <spidey> how about i tar them and move 'em to the public_html
08:12 <spidey> give you the link and you post
08:12 <spidey> :p
08:15 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.com/core.27246.gz
08:15 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.com/core.28202.gz
08:17 <spidey> erm
08:17 <spidey> wtf
08:17 <spidey> Forbidden
08:17 <spidey> You don't have permission to access /core.28202.gz on this server.
08:17 <spidey> Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. 
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08:19 <spidey> om
08:19 <spidey> omg
08:19 <spidey> it's hell
08:19 <HellBlade> yes?
08:19 <spidey> :p
08:19 <HellBlade> really?
08:19 <spidey> no
08:19 <HellBlade> mthat's amazing
08:19 <spidey> i'm seeing things
08:19 <HellBlade> why?
08:19 <HellBlade> yeah you are seeing things actually
08:20 <HellBlade> you are seeing your screen
08:21 <HellBlade> om
08:21 <HellBlade> omg
08:21 <HellBlade> it's spidey
08:21 <HellBlade> :p
08:21 <spidey> :/
08:21 <HellBlade> so why is it surprising that I am here
08:22 <HellBlade> wow no ops here
08:22 <HellBlade> surprising
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08:24 <Lucifer_arma> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carhenge
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08:24 <AngryOverlord> whoops
08:24 <spidey> LOL
08:24 <AngryOverlord> does anyone know what happened to zoite?
08:24 <spidey> to what?
08:24 <AngryOverlord> it isn't working
08:24 <AngryOverlord> zoite the server
08:24 <AngryOverlord> on irc
08:24 <spidey> .....
08:24 <AngryOverlord> nvm
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carhenge  <-- for the guy who just left and came back
08:26 <AngryOverlord> ?
08:26 <AngryOverlord> that is interesting
08:26 <AngryOverlord> but it doesn't say where it is
08:27 <spidey> nebraska....
08:27 <AngryOverlord> haha
08:27 <AngryOverlord> I can't read
08:27 <AngryOverlord> sorry
08:27 <Lucifer_arma> apparently there's a stonehenge replica in Texas.  I'll see if I can find directions to it, that'll make a nice day trip for the kids :)
08:28 <AngryOverlord> was anyone in the server zoite before?
08:28 <AngryOverlord> or do you guys just have freenode
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a9/Stonehenge_II.jpg
08:28 -!- AngryOverlord is now known as HellBlade
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> freenode is a network, when you connect you usually connect to a rotation server
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> we could all be connected to different servers, and the way irc works we're able to be in the same room
08:29 <HellBlade> fine does anyone know what happened to zoite the network
08:29 <HellBlade> ;P
08:30 <HellBlade> if anyone used it
08:30 <HellBlade> way back when
08:30 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, never heard of it :)
08:31 <Lucifer_arma> I thought you were talking about zoite as a freenode server, and linked it to your weird disconnect a minute ago :)
08:31 <HellBlade> *tear*
08:32 <Lucifer_arma> #last --from nemostultae 
08:32 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: [23:27:08] <nemostultae> done
08:32 <HellBlade> 5 minutes ago?
08:32 <Lucifer_arma> #time
08:32 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 01:33 AM, July 10, 2006
08:33 <HellBlade> hmmm
08:33 <HellBlade> funny it is only 11:33:29 here
08:33 <HellBlade> pm
08:33 <HellBlade> is that gmt?
08:33 <Lucifer_arma> no, it's CDT
08:33 <HellBlade> oh
08:33 <Lucifer_arma> armabot lives in texs
08:33 <Lucifer_arma> er, texas
08:34 <spidey> lolololol
08:34 <HellBlade> he
08:34 <Lucifer_arma> spidey, you're not allowed to laugh at other people's typos
08:34 <spidey> hahahahaha
08:34 <spidey> so true
08:35  * spidey goes to look for a cheap shell on a nice connection to run a tron server
08:35 <Lucifer_arma> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foamhenge
08:37 <HellBlade> lucifer why are you giving us links to wikipedia about fake stonehenges?
08:38 <Lucifer_arma> because I think they're interesting and would like to share?
08:38 <HellBlade> oh okay
08:38 <HellBlade> how did you get started looking for them?
08:42 <HellBlade> alright
08:43 <HellBlade> brb
08:45 <HellBlade> back
08:45 <Lucifer_arma> I was reading about the Celts
08:45 <spidey> mmmm
08:46 <spidey> should i get 2 background processes or just one
08:46 <Lucifer_arma> I don't have an answer for that
08:46 <spidey> i could get 3
08:46 <spidey> only $5
08:47 <spidey> gonna run a tron server on it
08:47 <spidey> O_o
08:47 <HellBlade> wow
08:47 <HellBlade> only 5$
08:47 <HellBlade> where?
08:47 <spidey> http://www.quadspeedi.net/?page=services&service=1
08:48 <HellBlade> no it's 5$ for 3
08:48 <spidey> yes
08:49 <HellBlade> oh
08:49 <HellBlade> you said 3
08:49 <spidey> spidey i could get 3
08:49 <spidey> spidey only $5
08:49 <spidey> keep up msn :p
08:49 <spidey> i said msn didn't i
08:49 <HellBlade> yeah
08:49 <spidey> s/msn/man
08:49 <spidey>     * run webcams, shoutcast servers, any type of game server, or any other process that utilizes an unreasonable amount of bandwidth or system resources, without expressed permission.
08:50 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, does tron use a unreasonable amount of bandwith?
08:50 <Lucifer_arma> heh, sure
08:50 <Lucifer_arma> but it's also a game server...
08:50 <spidey> any type of game server, or any other process that utilizes an unreasonable amount of bandwidth
08:50 <spidey> if it doesn't use alot of bandwith i can run it
08:51 <Lucifer_arma> but they cite game servers in particular
08:51 <spidey> meh
08:51 <Lucifer_arma> of course, my isp says "no webservers" and all the other stuff, too, and I blissfully ignore them and do it anyway
08:51 <spidey> heh
08:51 <spidey> mine says no servers
08:51  * spidey runs all kinds of servers
08:51 <Lucifer_arma> it probably will use an unreasonable amount of bandwidth
08:52 <Lucifer_arma> z-man says his fortress server uses somewhere's around a gig month, doesn't he?
08:52 <spidey> even if i set it to like 6-10 people?
08:52 <spidey> omg
08:52 <HellBlade> Our servers are connected to redundant Cisco 7500 Series Routers, Cisco 6500 Series Switches
08:52 <spidey> O_o
08:52 <HellBlade> it will be fine
08:52 <spidey> ?
08:52 <spidey> hey it's only $3
08:53 <spidey> i can attempt it,lol
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08:55 <HellBlade> it will be fine the cisco 6500 series switches: The Catalyst 6500 Series currently supports up to 288 Class 3 (15.4W) Power over Ethernet (PoE) devices, plus up to 1152 10/100-Mbps, 576 10/100/1000-Mbps, or 32 10-Gbps Ethernet ports in a single chassis, and system scalability up to 720 Gbps, providing 40 Gbps/slot (half-duplex). Additional choices include 3, 4, 6, 9, and 13-slot chassis options and several WAN interface module 
08:55 <HellBlade> options.
08:55 <HellBlade> you could probably do it with just one
08:56 <spidey> yea
08:56 <spidey> gotta wait till the 12th though
08:56 <HellBlade> oh
08:56 <HellBlade> why?
08:56 <spidey> i transfered money from the bank the 8th and paypal is slow as hell
08:56 <HellBlade> oh
08:57 <spidey> http://www.vitalspeeds.com/
08:58 <HellBlade> those are small
08:58 <spidey> who cares about space
08:58 <spidey> it's a tron server
08:58 <spidey> :p
08:58 <HellBlade> well if zmans takes 1gb per month
08:59 <spidey> no man
08:59 <spidey> hdd space isn't bandwith
08:59 <spidey> read
08:59 <spidey> "monthly bandwith unmetered"
08:59 <HellBlade> I'm sorry I am blind
08:59 <spidey> lmao
08:59 <HellBlade> haha you get BitchX
09:00 <spidey> i think i'll get one of those...
09:00 <spidey> maybe
09:00 <spidey> i can't find there ToS
09:01 <HellBlade> you can always do the shared hosting and host a couple servers
09:02 <HellBlade> although they have metered bandwith
09:02 <HellBlade> badnwidth
09:05 <spidey> heh
09:05 <HellBlade> wow you guys are just on irc for arma
09:05 <spidey> no
09:05 <spidey> i'm on 5 networks
09:05 <HellBlade> oh
09:05 <HellBlade> pfft
09:05 <HellBlade> what evs
09:06 <spidey> i am
09:06 <HellBlade> I knkow
09:06 <HellBlade> so you going for the vitalspeeds one?
09:06 <spidey> maybe both
09:06 <HellBlade> two servers?
09:06 <spidey> 3
09:06 <HellBlade> 3?
09:06 <spidey> i run one on my webserver :)
09:06 <HellBlade> wow
09:06 <HellBlade> you in usa?
09:06 <spidey> yea
09:07 <HellBlade> make a fort
09:07 <HellBlade> ;P
09:07 <spidey> got one 
09:07 <HellBlade> yeah I know
09:07 <spidey> U.S.Fortress
09:07 <HellBlade> but you keep going from fort to sumo
09:07 <HellBlade> what would you make the other ones?
09:07 <spidey> there'll be the fort from my webserver
09:08 <spidey> ohhhh
09:08 <HellBlade> yeah
09:08 <spidey> you're stewie
09:08 <spidey> asshole
09:08 <spidey> lol
09:08 <HellBlade> shhhhhh
09:08 <HellBlade> don't tell anyone
09:08 <spidey> the sumo on one of the shells
09:08 <HellBlade> especially any xzl
09:08 <spidey> and a dogfight on the other
09:08 <HellBlade> then a rubber?
09:08 <spidey> no
09:08 <HellBlade> oh
09:08 <HellBlade> wait
09:08 <spidey> i don't like rubber
09:08 <HellBlade> haha that is 3
09:09 <spidey> [0] Setting SPAM_MAXLEN (Group: Cheating) deviates from its default value; clients older than will not be allowed in.
09:09 <spidey> um?
09:09 <HellBlade> I am trying to keep my secret identity secret
09:09 <HellBlade> I "quit" on hellblade
09:10 <spidey> like i was
09:10 <spidey> i quit spidey then accidently threw the server up with spidey
09:10 <HellBlade> haha
09:10 <spidey> and the name BlAzE i used
09:10 <spidey> lol
09:10 <HellBlade> so many people "quit" on their other names
09:10 <HellBlade> and play on secret identities
09:10 <spidey> can you blame 'em?
09:11 <HellBlade> I quit hellblade cause I was being a jerk on it
09:11 <HellBlade> corrupt with power
09:11 <HellBlade> cause I was on xzl the whole time
09:11 <spidey> i don't know if people know i'm blaze yet besides the ones in here
09:11 <HellBlade> don't tell anyone
09:11 <spidey> but sp hates spidey so much and they say he sucks so much ~esp psyko~
09:11 <HellBlade> we all should have secret identities
09:12 <spidey> yet i got invited to sp numerous times as blaze
09:12 <HellBlade> haha
09:12 <HellBlade> really?
09:12 <spidey> ya
09:12 <HellBlade> esp psyko?
09:12 <spidey> especially?
09:12 <HellBlade> yeah did he invite you
09:12 <spidey> don't remember
09:12 <spidey> i know omega has
09:12 <HellBlade> haha
09:12 <spidey> and someone else
09:12 <spidey> i can't remember
09:13 <HellBlade> sin said he wanted me to join E when I was stewie
09:13 <HellBlade> the first day
09:13 <spidey> lol
09:13 <spidey> nightmare wants me to join E he just hasn't came out and said it
09:13 <HellBlade> haha
09:13 <HellBlade> spidey you and I are just to pwn for them
09:13 <spidey> i can tell from the ass kissing :p
09:14 <spidey> mbc invited me when i only played for 2 days
09:14 <HellBlade> haha
09:14 <HellBlade> nice
09:14 <spidey> that tells me that don't care about skill
09:14 <spidey> i like that
09:14 <spidey> :)
09:14 <HellBlade> are you stil in mbc?
09:14 <spidey> yea
09:14 <HellBlade> coo
09:14 <spidey> a year in august
09:15 <HellBlade> do you dislike xzl at all?
09:15 <spidey> noooo
09:15 <spidey> i like zxl
09:15 <spidey> xzl
09:15 <spidey> i just don't like sp :p
09:15 <HellBlade> eh
09:15 <spidey> punch is a good friend of mine :p
09:15 <spidey> alias
09:15 <spidey> sd
09:15 <HellBlade> I am starting to see that xzl are being somewhat of jerks to sp
09:15 <spidey> can you blame 'em?
09:15 <spidey> lol
09:16 <HellBlade> all clans contradict themselves and are jerks
09:16 <HellBlade> but I think sp and xzl are the worst
09:16 <spidey> they claim to be the elites of tron,but mbc wanted a match against them and they declined
09:16 <HellBlade> sp or xzl?
09:16 <spidey> sp
09:17 <HellBlade> haha have you seen the headline on their forums? the father of the clan community
09:17 <HellBlade> lawl
09:17 <HellBlade> I mean tron community
09:17 <spidey> riiiight
09:17 <HellBlade> tron clan**
09:17 <HellBlade> haha
09:17 <spidey> they wasn't before they fell and they still aren't :)
09:17 <spidey> i suck and i could beat them all besides punch and solidus
09:17 <HellBlade> xzl or sp?
09:17 <spidey> i had trouble with them :/
09:18 <spidey> sp
09:18 <HellBlade> oh
09:18 <HellBlade> before the downfall?
09:18 <spidey> yea
09:18 <HellBlade> oh okay
09:18 <HellBlade> now I can pwn them all with ease ;P
09:19 <spidey> meh
09:19 <HellBlade> dude it was so wierd with storm after he came back from his long break he was worshiping me because I was so good
09:19 <Lucifer_arma> anybody ever heard of wolvix?
09:19 <spidey> no?
09:19 <HellBlade> wolvix?
09:19 <HellBlade> no
09:19 <HellBlade> what is it luci?
09:19 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, linux distribution.  :)  Stumbled across it in a vain search for pyalarm, trying to see how many people use pyAlarm
09:20 <spidey> wow
09:20 <Lucifer_arma> in the beginning of June, the Wolvix guy said he was making a new version, and someone posted on his site to suggest including pyAlarm on it
09:20 <spidey> ever heard of tdl ?
09:20 <spidey> tbl*
09:20 <HellBlade> oh
09:20 <Lucifer_arma> tbl = tron player?
09:20 <spidey> tbl = linux distro
09:20 <spidey> http://www.linuxiso.org/
09:20 <Lucifer_arma> no, I haven't
09:20 <spidey> probably a few you haven't heard of there
09:21 <Lucifer_arma> That's TSL
09:21 <Lucifer_arma> and I haven't heard of TSL either
09:21 <spidey> oh
09:21 <spidey> i was thinking of
09:21 <spidey> jbl
09:22 <Lucifer_arma> looks like it's been a year since their last release, though
09:22 <spidey> lol@ peanut linux
09:22 <Lucifer_arma> which is probably how long since I released pyAlarm's last version, heh
09:22  * Lucifer_arma needs to get Dave's Stupid Alarm Clock going
09:22 <spidey> you made pyalarm?
09:22 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
09:22 <spidey> O_o
09:23 <spidey> i've heard about it somewhere
09:23 <spidey> long time ago
09:23 <HellBlade> woah
09:23 <Lucifer_arma> from me?  heh
09:23 <HellBlade> you made pyalarm!
09:23 <spidey> no
09:23 <spidey> i've heard abotu it from someone/thing else
09:23 <spidey> what is it?
09:23 <Lucifer_arma> alarm clock
09:23 <spidey> lol
09:23 <spidey> i guess that'd explain it
09:24 <HellBlade> holy crud YOU MADE PYALARM!
09:24 <HellBlade> oh it is an alarm clock
09:24 <spidey> i think it was something i was playing with when i first installed linux
09:24 <HellBlade> I'm not impressed
09:24 <HellBlade> hehehe jk
09:24 <spidey> hahahahahahah
09:24 <Lucifer_arma> ?  afaik, no distributions include it
09:24 <HellBlade> yeah just get it from sourceforge spidey
09:25 <Lucifer_arma> probably because it's buggier than an antpile
09:25 <HellBlade> that's pretty buggy
09:25 <Lucifer_arma> it's damn buggy.  I don't even know if the last release works for anyone besides me.  ;)
09:25 <spidey> i don't say it was included
09:25 <spidey> i said i played with it :p
09:25 <Lucifer_arma> ahhhhhhhhhhhh
09:26 <Lucifer_arma> next version will be better, but I'm changing the name and pretty much rewriting it
09:26 <Lucifer_arma> lessons learned and all
09:26 <spidey> lol
09:26 <HellBlade> haha
09:26 <HellBlade> does anyone know how to take down a firewall on a mac?
09:26 <Lucifer_arma> and it won't see a windows release for some time now
09:26 <Lucifer_arma> spidey knows
09:26 <Lucifer_arma> just install vnc and he'll show you
09:26 <spidey> :|
09:26 <HellBlade> oh spidey!
09:26 <HellBlade> teach me my master
09:27  * spidey says kiss his ass to both
09:27 <HellBlade> *tear*
09:27  * Lucifer_arma french kisses spidey's grandmother
09:27 <spidey> O_o
09:27 <spidey> that was so wrong
09:27 <Lucifer_arma> is she hot?  your grandmother, that is.  Is she?
09:27 <spidey> my grandma isn't a donkey :(
09:28 <HellBlade> free edition enough?
09:29 <spidey> why/what for/why do you wanna know how to take a mac firewall down?
09:29 <HellBlade> for reasons of my own
09:29 <HellBlade> ...
09:29 <spidey> your box?
09:29 <HellBlade> yeah pretty much
09:29 <spidey> .......
09:29 <spidey> i'll take that as a no
09:29 <HellBlade> no
09:30 <HellBlade> it is yeah pretty much
09:30 <spidey> that's not a answer :p
09:30 <HellBlade> sure it is
09:30 <spidey> is not
09:30 <HellBlade> why are you so interested?
09:31 <spidey> because if it was yours i might help :p
09:31 <HellBlade> it is mine
09:31 <spidey> to late now
09:31 <Lucifer_arma> are you speaking in the present or future tense?
09:31 <HellBlade> present
09:31 <Lucifer_arma> as in "it'll be mine after I take down the firewall"?
09:31 <HellBlade> no it is mine now
09:31 <Lucifer_arma> aren't there mac support groups?  most drug addictions have them....
09:31 <spidey> LOL
09:33 <HellBlade> aight
09:33 <HellBlade> got it
09:33 <HellBlade> oh pretty IP adress
09:33 <spidey> ....
09:33 <HellBlade> nothing
09:33 <spidey> so i take it you was lying
09:33 <HellBlade> no
09:33 <spidey> yes
09:33 <HellBlade> no!
09:33 <spidey> yes!
09:33 <HellBlade> no
09:33 <spidey> yes
09:33 <HellBlade> why do you think I am lying
09:34 <spidey> HellBlade oh pretty IP adress
09:34 <HellBlade> so
09:34 <HellBlade> it is mine so what
09:34 <HellBlade> god
09:34 <spidey> because "yeah pretty much"
09:34 <HellBlade> so
09:34 <HellBlade> well it isn't much of a box
09:34 <HellBlade> more of a closable one
09:34 <spidey> and because after i said if it was yours i'd help you said yes it is :p
09:34 <HellBlade> it is mine!
09:35 <HellBlade> now!
09:35 <spidey> but it wasn't
09:35 <HellBlade> it always has been
09:35 <spidey> lmao
09:35 <spidey> i would keep going but i'm laughing to much
09:35 <HellBlade> I am getting sorta mad because you wont beleive me
09:36 <spidey> hahahahaha
09:37 <HellBlade> how can I proove to you that it is mine?
09:37 <Lucifer_arma> I don't believe you either, does that make you madder?
09:37 <HellBlade> why not?
09:37 <Lucifer_arma> well, you can give it to me, at which case you'd prove it was yours
09:37 <spidey> lololololol
09:37 <HellBlade> another way?
09:37 <Lucifer_arma> only then it'd be mine, and I'd put linux on it
09:37 <Lucifer_arma> probably run an arma server on it
09:37 <HellBlade> don't worry you wont be able to unless you get the firewall down
09:38 <HellBlade> and it isn't a box
09:38 <spidey> .......
09:38 <HellBlade> hehe
09:38 <spidey> what's the firewall got to do with it
09:38 <spidey> if he has physical access all he's gotta do is reboot with the cd in
09:38 <Lucifer_arma> yeah....
09:38 <HellBlade> yeah....
09:38 <Lucifer_arma> yeah....
09:38 <spidey> maybe......
09:38 <HellBlade> I thought that didn't work with macs
09:38 <Lucifer_arma> then how would you put linux on it?
09:39 <HellBlade> since isn't the os secured by a firewall?
09:39 <spidey> ....
09:39  * Lucifer_arma whacks HellBlade with a clue bat
09:39 <spidey> LOL
09:39 <HellBlade> I'm sorry it is late and I have no idea what is going on
09:39 <Lucifer_arma> the firewall in the os doesn't turn on until sometime after it has started booting
09:39 <spidey> the os doesn't boot if you boot from a cd man
09:39 <HellBlade> what were we talking about?
09:39 <Lucifer_arma> if you boot from a cd, then the os doesn't boot, and you install linux generally by booting from a cd
09:40 <HellBlade> aha you are wrong!
09:40 <Lucifer_arma> we were talking about a mac you wanted spidey to help you own
09:40 <HellBlade> the cd doesn't boot till the os boots!
09:40 <spidey> no
09:40 <spidey> you're wrong
09:40 <spidey> the bios reads the cd 
09:40 <spidey> the bios starts before the os
09:40 <spidey> deeeer
09:40 <Lucifer_arma> well, on intel boxes the bios does the part where it starts the cd booting
09:40 <HellBlade> I don't have an intel
09:40 <spidey> intelmac
09:40 <spidey> mmm
09:41 <spidey> i've heard of those
09:41 <HellBlade> macbook g4
09:41 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, they're new
09:41 <HellBlade> powerbook g4 I mean
09:41 <Lucifer_arma> they kinda take the snob out of the mac snob
09:41 <HellBlade> macbook is the intel
09:41 <spidey> lol
09:41 <HellBlade> god you got me thinking about the intel
09:41 <spidey> since when
09:41 <HellBlade> sorry
09:41 <HellBlade> since you started talking about it gosh
09:41 <spidey> well
09:42 <spidey> talking about what?
09:42 <spidey> man i think you're crazy or something
09:42 <spidey> HAHAAHAHAHA
09:42 <Lucifer_arma> HellBlade: did you take your medication today?
09:42 <HellBlade> and i know you are doing it on purpouse
09:42 <HellBlade> no -.-
09:42 <HellBlade> it is 12:42 in the fawking morning
09:43 <HellBlade> why would I take my medication now
09:43 <HellBlade> ?!?!?
09:43 <Lucifer_arma> so you won't forget to take it in the morning?
09:43 <HellBlade> no
09:43 <HellBlade> wait I don't take medication
09:43 <spidey> lmao
09:43 <HellBlade> god damn you guys are confusing me
09:43 <spidey> this should go on bash.org
09:43 <spidey> hahah
09:44 <Lucifer_arma> I feel so bad
09:44 <spidey> lmao
09:44 <Lucifer_arma> I helped someone make an annoying server name
09:44 <HellBlade> what?
09:44 <spidey> what name/
09:44 <spidey> ?
09:44 <Lucifer_arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=72381#72381  <--- you have to be logged in to see the screenshot
09:45 <spidey> no i don't
09:45 <spidey> i can see it
09:45 <Lucifer_arma> really?  I thought tank had disabled attachments for people nto logged in?
09:45 <spidey> nope
09:45 <spidey> i see it
09:45 <spidey> and i'm not logged in
09:45 <HellBlade> harakiri-zone JP is annoying
09:45 <spidey> harakiri-zoe jp
09:45 <HellBlade> why?
09:46 <Lucifer_arma> because now it's colored
09:46 <spidey> lol
09:46 <HellBlade> so
09:46 <HellBlade> I want to check it out brb
09:47 <HellBlade> ha I can't see it
09:47 <HellBlade> ;P
09:50 <spidey> HellBlade and it isn't a box
09:50 <spidey> ok, the monitor
09:50 <HellBlade> cough powerbook cough
09:50 <HellBlade> hehe
09:51 <HellBlade> fine what ever
09:51 <HellBlade> spidey you are just confusing me
09:51 <spidey> huh?
09:51 <HellBlade> I dunno
09:51 <spidey> seriously man
09:51 <spidey> goto a mental home for a few days
09:51 <HellBlade> I NEED MY MEDICATIONS!
09:51 <spidey> i think you're losing it
09:52  * HellBlade pulls out a dagger and holds in like they do in dune
09:53 <HellBlade> or children of dune I should say
09:53 <HellBlade> they don't have daggers in dune
09:53 <spidey> children of the corn?
09:53 <HellBlade> DUNE!
09:53 <spidey> corn....
09:53 <HellBlade> DUNE!
09:53 <spidey> corn....
09:53 <HellBlade> DUNE GOD DAMN IT DUNE!
09:53 <spidey> corn....
09:54 <spidey> corn....
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09:54 <guru3> shut up
09:54 <guru3> before i make you
09:54 <HellBlade> god damn it spidey I hate you
09:54 <spidey> love you too ;x
09:54 <HellBlade> I'm sure you do
09:54 <spidey> :p
09:54 <Vanhayes> #g $22/h 40h/w
09:54 <armabot> Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
09:54 <Vanhayes> damn
09:55 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o guru3] by ChanServ
09:55 -!- mode/#armagetron [+m] by guru3
09:55 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v Lucifer_arma] by guru3
09:55 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v Lucifer_arma] by guru3
09:55 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v luke-jr_] by guru3
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09:55 -!- mode/#armagetron [+vvv wejp wrtlprnft zmanuel] by guru3
09:55 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v deja_vu_] by guru3
09:55 <@guru3> yeah... i think that's all for now
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09:59 <+Stewie-arma> hello?
10:00 <+Stewie-arma> ty
10:00 <+Stewie-arma> so you guys obviously play armagetron right?
10:05 <@guru3> yes
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10:25 -!- mode/#armagetron [-m] by guru3
10:26 <+wrtlprnft> #morning
10:26 <armabot> Good Morning wrtlprnft Random Fortune:  Alan Cox wrote: || >> On any procmail new enough not to be full of security holes you set || >Brain on, Imeant majordomo of course 8) || You got me worried there for a brief (very brief) moment :-). || -- Stephen R. van den Berg (AKA BuGless)
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10:35 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5621 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/ (network/nNetObject.h tron/gCycle.cpp tron/gCycleMovement.cpp):
10:35 <armabot> armagetronad: Rearranged call order of nNetObject::ReadSync() and
10:35 <armabot> armagetronad: nNetObject::InitAfterCreation(), init now comes first. Some things that were
10:35 <armabot> armagetronad: formerly done in init now need to be done in ReadSync() if this->ID() is zero
10:35 <armabot> armagetronad: (inicating that this is the first sync).
10:36 -spidey:#armagetron- mmm
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10:40 <@guru3> stop with the damn notices please
10:40 <+wrtlprnft> spidey found a new way to annoy people...
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10:45 <Lucifer_arma> mmmm
10:45  * Lucifer_arma tries to remember what his alarm clock looks like
10:45 <Lucifer_arma> I'm always sleepy when I look at it, so I don't remember :)
10:45 <@guru3> doesn't it start with py?
10:46 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm rewriting it with pyqt, which means new ui
10:46 <@guru3> qt :o
10:46 <+wrtlprnft> qt :D
10:46 <Lucifer_arma> really, I just want two things out of it :)
10:46 <Lucifer_arma> move the damn media player to command line apps, and a systray icon
10:47 <@guru3> ye qt junkies of kde land
10:47 <Lucifer_arma> but for the systray icon, since I use KDE, I need to use pyKDE to get it, and that means pyqt to start
10:47 <+wrtlprnft> crew gnome/gtk :D
10:48 <+wrtlprnft> *screw
10:48 <@guru3> aww lol
10:48 <Lucifer_arma> well, it'll be carefully separated so that putting a pygtk front on it should be fairly trivial
10:48 <Lucifer_arma> just write up the ui file with glade and write the glue code
10:48 <Lucifer_arma> that might even get it a windows version.  Does pygtk run in Windows?
10:49 <@guru3> i know gtk itself does, cause gaim uses it
10:49 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, looks like it does
10:49 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, anything python will run in windows
10:49 <spidey> just need the interpeter
10:50 <Lucifer_arma> sure spidey, whatever you say
10:50 <spidey> it will if you install python 2.4 for windows
10:50  * Lucifer_arma notes that pygtk depends on gtk, which is a c library
10:50 <spidey> :)
10:50  * guru3 refers Lucifer_arma to his previous statement about gaim
10:50  * Lucifer_arma notes further that python bindings have to be built for each platform, and that pyao does *not* run in windows
10:51 <+wrtlprnft> well, if you use pyKDE it won
10:51 <+wrtlprnft> 't run on windows
10:51 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.mapr.ucl.ac.be/~gustin/win32_ports/
10:51  * guru3 notes that he can no longer follow Lucifer's notes
10:51 <Lucifer_arma> pyao = python bindings around libao, which is an audio output library that's supposed to be cross-platform but only runs in Linux
10:52 <@guru3> ah
10:52  * guru3 now notes that lucifer's previous notes were indeed note worthy
10:52 <Lucifer_arma> it's a xiph project that never really took off, there are lots of cross-platform output libraries.  Unfortunately python only supports pyao.  :/
10:53 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, it just occurred to me that there are openal bindings
10:53 -!- guru3 changed the topic of #armagetron to: has been released! | http://armagetronad.net/ | Watch out for ~walls from the future~ !!! | ANY PROBLEMS WITH BETA.ARMAGETRONAD.NET? BLAME LUKE ASAP! | we like cheese. vive cheese. heil cheese. all glory to cheese. that is all
10:54 <spidey> what valvetta?
10:54 <Lucifer_arma> redneck
10:54 <spidey> it owns
10:54 <spidey> #lucifer
10:54 <armabot> Teh #1 Redneck!
10:54 <+wrtlprnft> the title is getting longer again :S
10:54 <+wrtlprnft> #Lucifer_arma 
10:54 <armabot> The operation succeeded.
10:54 <spidey> ?
10:55 <Lucifer_arma> asdf
10:55 <Lucifer_arma> oh, it doesn't spam me?
10:55 <spidey> lol
10:55 <+wrtlprnft> #notes
10:55 <armabot> wrtlprnft: I currently have notes waiting for $randomnick, ar*, Lucifer_arma_, Luke-Jr, madmax|pt, Nickserv, operserv, phil, someone, SuPeRTaRD, and unknown.
10:55 <spidey> nickserv?
10:55 <Lucifer_arma> #list alias
10:55 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: #, 42, add, admin, all, answer, anvil, armabot, armabot,, b, barf, bug, canada, canada2, ch, chatlog, clash, coin, digg, dotdotdot, eightballs, eliza, f, fe, fluffy, fortune, g, gcalc, goodbye, hello, help, hose, ignoreme, insight, it's, joke, knock, less, lipsum, lock, log, log, lotto, lucifer, luciferarma, lukejr, m, man, mashuffle, message, mfaq, missed, morning, night, pang, (1 more message)
10:55 <+wrtlprnft> no, it spams someone random methinks
10:55 <+wrtlprnft> #help spam
10:55 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (spam <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "later tell [echo $randomNick] enjoy the spam".
10:55 <Lucifer_arma> wtf?  can we stop with all these useless aliases?
10:55 <+wrtlprnft> #more Lucifer_arma 
10:55 <armabot> wrtlprnft: parrot, peng, poke, pong, postal, pun, pung, pushredbutton, q, realchatlogs, remove, roulete, roulettebot, roulettte, scare, sdasupport, selfcleanalias, should, spam, spamspamspam, specialroulette, superdice, surprise, switchtoheads, switchtotails, teamlist, texas, u, unix, unlock, uptime, vanhayes, wakespam, whoisshe, wikipedia, and yoda
10:55 <spidey> #help gcalc
10:55 <armabot> spidey: (gcalc <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "google calc $*".
10:56 <spidey> ...
10:56 <spidey> what's the difference between that and g
10:56 <+wrtlprnft> #help g
10:56 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (g <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo [google calc $*]".
10:56 <Lucifer_arma> NONE, it's a USELESS alias
10:56 <Lucifer_arma> well, and #g used to make spam
10:56 <spidey> lol
10:56 <+wrtlprnft> #switchtoheads
10:56 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
10:56  * Lucifer_arma considers unloading the alias module again
10:56 <+wrtlprnft> #alias coin
10:56 <armabot> heads
10:56 <+wrtlprnft> #alias coin
10:56 <+wrtlprnft> #alias coin
10:56 <armabot> heads
10:56 <armabot> heads
10:56 <+wrtlprnft> #switchtotails
10:56 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
10:56 <+wrtlprnft> #alias coin
10:56 <armabot> tails
10:56 <+wrtlprnft> #alias coin
10:56 <+wrtlprnft> #alias coin
10:56 <armabot> tails
10:56 <armabot> tails
10:57 <@guru3> please stop spamming :/
10:57  * wrtlprnft hides
10:57 <spidey> #help switchtoheads
10:57 <armabot> spidey: (switchtoheads <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "alias add coin echo heads".
10:57 <Lucifer_arma> he's just showing off his useless aliases
10:57 <spidey> O_o
10:57 <Lucifer_arma> #unload Alias
10:57 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
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10:57 <@guru3> Lucifer_arma, is there anyway to reduce the # of aliases?
10:57  * Lucifer_arma wonders if anybody can use the bot with this plugin unloaded
10:57 <@guru3> or restrict their usage to the time when i'm not online?
10:57 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I just reduced them to 0
10:57 <+wrtlprnft> there are some useful aliases
10:57 <spidey> #google calc 10+10
10:57 <armabot> spidey: 10 + 10 = 20
10:58 <@guru3> ...
10:58 <spidey> i can for my math packets
10:58 <spidey> xD
10:58  * wrtlprnft won't type oogle calc
10:58 <Lucifer_arma> good, because that won't work :)
10:58 <spidey> LOL
10:58 <Lucifer_arma> #oogle calc
10:58 <+wrtlprnft> no
10:58 -!- spidey was kicked from #armagetron by guru3 [if you can't do that math you don't deserve to be here. you are the weakest link. goodbye.]
10:58 <+wrtlprnft> #g worked before
10:58 <Lucifer_arma> haha
10:58 <+wrtlprnft> and now i have to type oogle calc
10:58  * guru3 celebrates
10:58 <@guru3> oogle lol
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10:58 <spidey> ....
10:59 <spidey> what was that for :/
10:59 <+wrtlprnft> [if you can't do that math you don't deserve to be here. you are the weakest link. goodbye.]
10:59 <Lucifer_arma> *** spidey has been kicked from the channel by guru3. (if you can't do that math you don't deserve to be here. you are the weakest link. goodbye.)
10:59 <@guru3> lol
10:59 <spidey> :\
10:59 <Lucifer_arma> he's probably still got some lingering annoyance at you, too, spidey
10:59 <Lucifer_arma> #load Alias
10:59 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
10:59  * wrtlprnft won't spam for a while
10:59 <Lucifer_arma> can we get some of the really useless aliases removed?
10:59 <Lucifer_arma> like, all of them?
11:00  * wrtlprnft doesn't know anymore which ones are useless
11:00 <spidey> can we keep #lucifer
11:00 <spidey> i like that one
11:00 <Lucifer_arma> #alias remove lucifer
11:00 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
11:00 <@guru3> better remove that one then
11:00 <spidey> lmao
11:00 <+wrtlprnft> lol
11:00 <Lucifer_arma> any others you want, spidey?
11:00 <spidey> yea i like #u too
11:01 <Lucifer_arma> #help u
11:01 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: (u <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "uptime $*".
11:01 <Lucifer_arma> #help uptime
11:01 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: (uptime <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo spidey: [rss [echo http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/uptime.php?$randomint]]".
11:01 <Lucifer_arma> #alias remove u
11:01 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
11:01 <Lucifer_arma> #alias remove uptime
11:01 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
11:01 <+wrtlprnft> :(
11:01 <spidey> #list alias
11:01 <armabot> spidey: #, 42, add, admin, all, answer, anvil, armabot, armabot,, b, barf, bug, canada, canada2, ch, chatlog, clash, coin, digg, dotdotdot, eightballs, eliza, f, fe, fluffy, fortune, g, gcalc, goodbye, hello, help, hose, ignoreme, insight, it's, joke, knock, less, lipsum, lock, log, log, lotto, luciferarma, lukejr, m, man, mashuffle, message, mfaq, missed, morning, night, pang, parrot, peng, poke, (1 more message)
11:01  * spidey never used half those
11:01 <spidey> O_o
11:02 <Lucifer_arma> I can tell you most of the useless ones
11:02 <Lucifer_arma> they're the ones that aren't #message or #g
11:02 <Lucifer_arma> #it's
11:02 <+wrtlprnft>  #morning and #night are useful too
11:02 <armabot> who?
11:02 <Lucifer_arma> #load Herald
11:02 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: Herald is already loaded.
11:02 <spidey> #help luciferarma 
11:02 <armabot> spidey: (luciferarma <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "spam $*".
11:02 <spidey> O_o
11:02 <Lucifer_arma> #alias remove luciferarma
11:02 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
11:02 <Lucifer_arma> #alias remove spam
11:03 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
11:03 <Lucifer_arma> #alias remove spamspamspam
11:03 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
11:03 <Lucifer_arma> why am I cleaning up this mess?
11:03 <@guru3> beats me
11:03 <spidey> #help armabot
11:03 <@guru3> but i appreciate it
11:03 <armabot> spidey: (armabot <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "eightball $*".
11:03 <spidey> #help armabot,,
11:03 <armabot> spidey: Error: There is no command "armabot,,".
11:03 <Lucifer_arma> #help alias
11:03 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: There is no command "alias".
11:03 <spidey> ....
11:03 <Lucifer_arma> #list alias
11:03 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: #, 42, add, admin, all, answer, anvil, armabot, armabot,, b, barf, bug, canada, canada2, ch, chatlog, clash, coin, digg, dotdotdot, eightballs, eliza, f, fe, fluffy, fortune, g, gcalc, goodbye, hello, help, hose, ignoreme, insight, it's, joke, knock, less, lipsum, lock, log, log, lotto, lukejr, m, man, mashuffle, message, mfaq, missed, morning, night, pang, parrot, peng, poke, pong, (1 more message)
11:03 <Lucifer_arma> #alias
11:04 <Lucifer_arma> #alias list
11:04 <Lucifer_arma> #more
11:04 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: postal, pun, pung, pushredbutton, q, realchatlogs, remove, roulete, roulettebot, roulettte, scare, sdasupport, selfcleanalias, should, specialroulette, superdice, surprise, switchtoheads, switchtotails, teamlist, texas, unix, unlock, vanhayes, wakespam, whoisshe, wikipedia, and yoda
11:04 <spidey> #help q
11:04 <armabot> spidey: (q <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "quote random".
11:04 <+wrtlprnft> don't delete #wikipedia :S
11:04 <Lucifer_arma> #alias remove *
11:04 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: There is no such alias.
11:04 <spidey> selfcleanalias?
11:04 <spidey> #help selfcleanalias
11:04 <armabot> spidey: (selfcleanalias <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "alias add $1 echo $* [alias remove $1]".
11:04 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'll tell you what, I've got 3 flesh and blood kids.  If I have to clean up this alias stuff, I'm just going to unload it.
11:05 <+wrtlprnft> #alias remove sdasupport
11:05 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
11:05 <Lucifer_arma> I have enough runny noses to rub
11:05 <Lucifer_arma> or wipe, or whatever
11:05 <+wrtlprnft> #alias remove teamlist
11:05 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
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11:24 <spidey> someone do /ctcp ping spidey
11:24 <spidey> and tell me the response time
11:34 <+wrtlprnft> 11:34 [ctcp(spidey)] PING
11:34 <+wrtlprnft> 11:34 CTCP it's reply from spidey: not nice to ping people
11:34 <+wrtlprnft> ...
11:34 <spidey> heh
11:35 <spidey> hold on
11:35 <spidey> try now
11:39 <+wrtlprnft> 11:39 [ctcp(spidey)] PING
11:39 <+wrtlprnft> 11:39 CTCP PING reply from spidey: 1474337.335 seconds
11:39 <spidey> lol
11:39 <spidey> now i'm slower than dialup
11:44 <spidey> wrtlprnft, try one more time
11:48 <+wrtlprnft> 11:48 [ctcp(spidey)] PING
11:48 <+wrtlprnft> 11:48 CTCP PING reply from spidey: PRIVMSG spidey :APING-1111111 second(s)
11:48 <spidey> O_o
11:48 <spidey> damn it :(
11:49 <spidey> how about now O_o
11:50 <spidey> i want it to say a negative number so i can say i'm from the future damn it :(
11:52 <+wrtlprnft> ...
11:53 <+wrtlprnft> o_O
11:57 <+wrtlprnft> can someone tell me why NFS stops working once i get to the boundary of my WLAN access point, but everything else still works fine, including arma?
12:25 <spidey> omg
12:25 <spidey> Message from syslogd@localhost at Mon Jul 10 06:25:05 2006 ...
12:25 <spidey> localhost kernel: Bad page state at free_hot_cold_page (in process 'artsd', page
12:25 <spidey>  c12c3be0)
12:25 <spidey> Message from syslogd@localhost at Mon Jul 10 06:25:05 2006 ...
12:25 <spidey> localhost kernel: flags:0x80000414 mapping:00000000 mapcount:0 count:0
12:25 <spidey> Message from syslogd@localhost at Mon Jul 10 06:25:05 2006 ...
12:25 <spidey> localhost kernel: Backtrace:
12:26 <spidey> Message from syslogd@localhost at Mon Jul 10 06:25:05 2006 ...
12:26 <spidey> localhost kernel: Trying to fix it up, but a reboot is needed
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12:37 <spidey> wrtlprnft, how do i tell the version my x server is?
12:52 <+wrtlprnft> X -version?
12:52 <cusco> nop
12:52 <cusco> I tried that
12:52 <cusco> :P
12:52 <spidey> lol
12:53 <spidey> spidey@fbi.gov[/dev]$ X --version
12:53 <spidey> X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
12:53 <spidey> heh
12:53 <+wrtlprnft> one v!
12:53 <+wrtlprnft> err
12:53 <+wrtlprnft> one -
12:53 <+wrtlprnft> -version, not --version
12:53 <spidey> ah
12:53 <spidey>  Window System Version 6.8.2 (Debian 6.8.2.dfsg.1-11 20051129054125 David Nusinow
12:53  * spidey needs to update
12:54 <+wrtlprnft> fbi.gov?
12:54 <spidey> yar
12:54 <+wrtlprnft> people have great hostnames sometimes
12:54 <spidey> lol
12:54 <spidey> it's not my hostname
12:54 <spidey> my hostname is Zion
12:54  * wrtlprnft should shut up, this computer has the hostname "laptop"
12:55 <cusco> spidey: you're using stable?
12:55 <spidey> my host name isn't fbi.gov :p
12:55 <spidey> cusco, mepis
12:55 <cusco> ow.. I don't know nothibg about that
12:55 <spidey> spidey@fbi.gov[/dev]$ cat /etc/profile
12:55 <spidey> # /etc/profile
12:55 <spidey> PATH="/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/games"
12:55 <spidey> # enable bash completion in interactive shells
12:55 <spidey> [ "$PS1" -a -f /etc/bash_completion ] && . /etc/bash_completion
12:55 <spidey> TTY=$(tty)
12:55 <armabot> spidey: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
12:55 <spidey> TTY=${TTY##*/}
12:55 <spidey> [ -n "$TTY" ] && PS1="\[\]\u@fbi.gov[\w]$\[\] " || PS1="\[\][\W]\u\[\] "
12:55 <cusco> debian testing got xorg7 about month agou
12:56 <cusco> I remember I lost direct rending interface.. so I hadn't 3d and I could't play tron
12:56 <cusco> :P
12:56 <spidey> wrtlprnft, i edited the profile file
12:56 <spidey> :p
12:56 <+wrtlprnft> my prompt's better
12:56 <spidey> lol
12:56 <spidey> laptop?
12:56 <+wrtlprnft> the overall prompt
12:57 <+wrtlprnft> colored and with error code
12:57 <spidey> the konsole ?
12:57 <+wrtlprnft> if you once worked with a colored prompt you don't want anything else, believe me
12:57 <spidey> xterm's the same thing :p
12:57 <spidey> besides
12:57 <spidey> mine shows colors
12:58 <spidey> just not everything
12:58 <+wrtlprnft> i mean colors, ie the mathias@laptop in color
12:58  * spidey screenshots
12:58  * wrtlprnft too
13:00 <+wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/promptspidey.png
13:02 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.com/snapshot1.png
13:02 <+wrtlprnft> uh, yellow
13:02 <+wrtlprnft> on white
13:02 <spidey> don't feel like messing with it
13:02 <spidey> lol
13:03 <+wrtlprnft> just make the background black
13:03 <+wrtlprnft> settings->sheme->transparent, dark background
13:04 <spidey> heh
13:04 <spidey> that's how you change that
13:04 <spidey> bastard wouldn't go transparent when i tried from right click > window behacior
13:05 <+wrtlprnft> and then settings->save as default
13:07 <+wrtlprnft> darn f********* shit last measure! as if i didn't have enough tabs open
13:07 <spidey> lol
13:08 <+wrtlprnft> at least my browser doesn't crash and allows me to disable js fast enough and close the tabs again
13:11 <spidey> heh
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13:18 <spidey> omg
13:18 <spidey> i broke my taskbar
13:26 <spidey> mm
13:31 <spidey> hahaha
13:31 <spidey> this x server sucks bad
13:31 <spidey> it flips out way to much
13:36 <spidey> it flips out way to much
13:36 <spidey> er
13:39 <spidey> wrtlprnft, http://fallin-angels.com/snapshot1.png
13:56 <+wrtlprnft> pfft gtk apps
13:56 <+wrtlprnft> get gtk-engines-qt
14:01 <spidey> ?
14:01 <spidey> i realized a small problem
14:01 <spidey> my text is gray
14:01 <spidey> but yours is black
14:01 <spidey> lol
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14:34 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5622 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tools/tHeap.cpp: Fixed annoying "Element not in heap" error on fatal exit, it is now replaced by tons of memory leaks. Oh well.
14:35 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5623 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tron/gCycleMovement.cpp: Switched order of timesteps. Should make collision with own tail really precise now.
14:54 <cusco> what does this last ones mean?
14:54 <cusco> make colision with own tail 
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14:54 <cusco> precise?
14:54 <+wrtlprnft> so you don't die
14:55 <+wrtlprnft> or die if you sould
14:55 <+wrtlprnft> *should
14:55 <+wrtlprnft> timesteps = simulation frames
14:55 <cusco> hm..
15:01 <cusco> by the way I dind't went on having the ed's fortress cloned
15:02 <cusco> instead I was having fun in a normal frtress erver
15:02 <cusco> how do I login admin to change parameters?!
15:09 <+wrtlprnft> first you need to set ADMIN_PASS to something
15:09 <+wrtlprnft> then ingame say /login yourpassword
15:09 <+wrtlprnft> and then you can say /admin CYCLE_RUBBER 4.5
15:09 <+wrtlprnft> but they won't be saved over restart
15:10 <cusco> ADMIN_PASS on the config files?
15:10 <cusco> wich file?
15:11 <+wrtlprnft> any
15:11 <+wrtlprnft> settings_custom.cfg is my recommendation
15:11 <cusco> ok
15:24 <+wrtlprnft> BF fortress is a mess O_o
15:24 <madmax|pt> sliiiiiide
15:24 <spidey> no doubt
15:25  * wrtlprnft was stupid
15:25 <spidey> i thought i was sliding when my upload was messed up the other day
15:25  * spidey wishes he was sliding as good as then
15:25 <spidey> i know
15:25 <spidey> i said you was stupid
15:25 <spidey> erm
15:25 <spidey> in the server
15:26 <+wrtlprnft> really?
15:26 <madmax|pt> yea
15:26 <spidey> yea
15:26 <spidey> :)
15:26  * spidey owns at the name guessing game :p
15:26 <spidey> i always pick you luci and van out
15:29 <spidey> #night
15:29 <armabot> Good night spidey!
15:29 <spidey> why thank you armabot 
15:30 <+wrtlprnft> ?
15:30 <spidey> it means i'm going to sleep
15:30 <+wrtlprnft> 15:29 <spidey> why thank you armabot
15:30 <+wrtlprnft> the ? referred to that
15:30 <spidey> i was thanking her for telling me good night
15:31 <+wrtlprnft> good "night" at 8AM
15:31 <spidey> 8:30 am
15:31 <+wrtlprnft> 8:30, actually
15:32 <spidey> and i don't live on a schedule
15:32 <spidey> except tuesdays
15:32 <spidey> i have to go test then
15:32 <spidey> so i have to sleep the night before
15:33 <+wrtlprnft> "night" for me is defined as the time between sunset and sunrise
15:33 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5624 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/engine/ePlayer.cpp: Fixed "Player 1" bug triggered by network object reordering. Players always entered as Player 1, then renamed.
15:33 <spidey>  Good night spidey!
15:33 <spidey> here that means you're going to sleep
15:33 <spidey> which
15:33 <spidey> i'm going to sleep
15:33 <spidey> so
15:33 <madmax|pt> erm
15:33 <spidey> good NIGHT wrtlprnft 
15:34 <+wrtlprnft> g'night?
15:34 <spidey> grrr
15:34 -!- spidey is now known as spidey|zzz
15:34 <spidey|zzz> bue
15:34 <spidey|zzz> bye
15:34 <+wrtlprnft> bue spidey|zzz 
15:35 <madmax|pt> cya
15:35 <madmax|pt> #realchatlogs
15:35 <armabot> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armalogs.txt
15:37  * wrtlprnft just reduced the number of tab rows from 10 to 5
15:38 <+wrtlprnft> there we have another useful alias btw
15:39 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5625 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/engine/ePlayer.cpp: Another player name fix.
15:39 <+wrtlprnft> though the usefulness of it slowly gets smaller as the file gets bigger
15:40  * wrtlprnft goes and uninstalls xorg once more
15:44 <+wrtlprnft> BAM! there goes kicker
15:45 <+wrtlprnft> wow, looks like i have to live without a taskbar for the next couple of hours
16:49 <cusco> er
16:49 <cusco> maybe you're having the same problem as me
16:49 <cusco> gnome-panel
16:49 <cusco> is sucking like 90% of cpu
16:51 <cusco> if thats the case just remove the applications menu
16:59 <+wrtlprnft> no, kicker probably crashed because i just uninstalled xorg
17:07 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r5626 /tools/map-preview/trunk/lib/map_preview/ (map_model.rb parser.rb): * MapModel handles converting to floats, and calculating angle
17:19 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5627 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tron/gCycle.cpp: Whoops, the antilag code produced more lag :)
17:25 <+wrtlprnft> is that last one a revert or what?
17:25 <+wrtlprnft> or just a - sign too much/too few?
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17:29 <+wrtlprnft> http://svn.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.cgi/armagetronad/armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tron/gCycle.cpp?r1=5621&r2=5627
17:29 <+wrtlprnft> hehe
17:42 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r5628 /tools/map-preview/trunk/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
17:42 <armabot> armagetronad: * Added zone parsing and rendering
17:42 <armabot> armagetronad: * Fixed bug where viewbox would be translated twice
17:47 <+wrtlprnft> wish me luck, restarting x11 now
17:52 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r5629 /tools/map-preview/trunk/lib/map_preview/renderer.rb: Removed two unnecessary groups in spawn point rendering
17:53 <+wrtlprnft> great
17:54 <+wrtlprnft> still the same problem, just it doesn't crash, but the sctr
17:54 <+wrtlprnft> screen stays blank, even if i restart x using ssh
17:55 <+wrtlprnft> well, brb, need to reboot now if i want graphis
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18:08 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5630 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tron/gCycleMovement.cpp:
18:08 <armabot> armagetronad: Added lag sliding warning.
18:08 <armabot> armagetronad: Hopefully improved timestep calculation.
18:09 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5631 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tron/gCycle.cpp: Initialized skew properly.
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18:58 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5632 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tron/gCycle.cpp: Disabled lag compensation when rubber is active for now. It is making too many problems. The packet loss tolerance already takes care the player doesn't get killed from lag, that's better than nothing.
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19:13 <wrtlprnft> z-man is driving the people on BF fortress crazy with this :D
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19:26 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5633 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tron/gCycle.cpp: Umm, perhaps it would be nice not to use up credit for lag compensation if you're not actually going to compensate anything? (When rubber is active)
19:43 -!- Vanhayes_ is now known as Vanhayes
19:57 <Vanhayes> anyone know a good music player for windows?
20:00 <+luke-jr_> um
20:00 <+luke-jr_> mpg321?
20:05 <+nemostultae> http://www.foobar2000.org maybe? I've never used it. Doesn't play SHN :(
20:09 <madmax|pt> winamp?
20:13 <joda_bot> nemostultae: foobar is nice, just restricted to Windows because it uses DirectShow (X) filters ?
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20:15 <Vanhayes_> #last
20:15 <armabot> Vanhayes_: [13:13:21] <joda_bot> nemostultae: foobar is nice, just restricted to Windows because it uses DirectShow (X) filters ?
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20:16 <cusco> dudes
20:16 <cusco> http://www.corriere.it/Primo_Piano/Sport/2006/07_Luglio/10/pop_zidane.shtml
20:16 <joda_bot> Vanhayes: I'm using foobar and I'm happy
20:16 <joda_bot> I've got a friend who is interested in codecs and audio quality...
20:17 <joda_bot> and he suggested using foobar
20:17 <joda_bot> It has playlist tabs and can "normalize" the sound level of an entire album or single files
20:17 <Vanhayes> hmm sounds like what i ams looking for
20:18 <Vanhayes> low memory usage too
20:18 <joda_bot> the normalization is done by adding a tag to the file, and the normalization should not cut anything off ;)
20:18 <joda_bot> yes
20:18 <joda_bot> simple, powerful and fast
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20:23 <joda_bot> z-man-home: ever tried to search source forge for "tron" ?
20:23 <joda_bot> It's really amazing how many game projects are listed but have no real files or entries
20:44 <Lackadaisical> maybe it's because they found out about armagetron and thought that the competition was too strong to even bother
20:45 <z-man-home> One of them is by iceman, I think :)
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21:02 <Lucifer_arma> ack, what does it take to get a striaght answer?
21:03 <Lucifer_arma> Vanhayes: any music player for windows that can play the streams off my server is a Good Music Player, afaic :)
21:03 <Vanhayes> lol
21:03 <Vanhayes> Im liking foobar
21:04 <Vanhayes> dont know if it can play your stream though
21:06 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, no dlopen in shttpd
21:09 <joda_bot> Vanhayes: it can
21:09 <Vanhayes> nice
21:10 <Vanhayes> because that plugin that spidey|zzz gave me for winamp on xchat fucked my winamp over
21:10 <Lucifer_arma> looks like shttpd does the same network stuff we do, which is what I remember last time I looked at it
21:23 <madmax|pt> slides are baaaaack
21:23 <Vanhayes> with vengance
21:24 <Lucifer_arma> haha.  I put the water on to boil for my tea, then went to the store for cigarettes.  When I got back, I discovered I hadn't put any tea bags in the water!  :(
21:25 <Lucifer_arma> and it was almost boiling.
21:25 <+luke-jr_> =p
21:25  * Lucifer_arma didn't get much sleep last night
21:25 <+luke-jr_> that's what you get for being a druggie?
21:25 <+luke-jr_> =p
21:26 <Lucifer_arma> druggie?  that the best you can do?
21:26  * Lucifer_arma considers schooling luke-jr_ on drug slang
21:26 <+luke-jr_> ...
21:26 <madmax|pt> lol
21:26 <Vanhayes> druggies get more sleep usually
21:27 <Lucifer_arma> and better sleep, at that
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21:34 <Lucifer_arma> anybody know how I'm going to get gentoo to update itself?
21:35 <wrtlprnft> emerge --sync && emerge -uDav world
21:35 <wrtlprnft> the first one updates the package database and the second one everything you installed
21:35 <joda_bot> wrtlprnft: isn't it emerge sync ?
21:35 <Lucifer_arma> ahhh, the problem there is that I've got X.org 6.9, which conflicts with x.org 7.somethingorother, and blocks it
21:35 <Lucifer_arma> joda_bot: changed in latest portage
21:36 <joda_bot> you might add emerge -N ... it checks for changed useflags ;)
21:36 <wrtlprnft> joda_bot: emerge sync is deprecated
21:36 <joda_bot> oh alright ;)
21:36 <wrtlprnft> though it still works
21:36 <wrtlprnft> and to be honest I never write the -- myself
21:37 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, setting up x was a painus in the anus, and I'd like to not have to do it again, but I can't update because of it
21:37 <joda_bot> Lucifer_arma: config files will be merged
21:37 <joda_bot> so you won't have to go through the pain again
21:37 <joda_bot> you'll have to do the merge yourself though
21:37 <Lucifer_arma> [14:35] <Lucifer_arma> ahhh, the problem there is that I've got X.org 6.9, which conflicts with x.org 7.somethingorother, and blocks it
21:37 <joda_bot> I read that
21:38 <joda_bot> usually you have to google or look at the gentoo forums ... 
21:38 <Lucifer_arma> actually, usually wrtlprnft knows the answer and is waiting for me to ask the question :)
21:38 <joda_bot> well, that's a good alternative ;)
21:39 <wrtlprnft> yeah, you need to painfully update
21:39 <wrtlprnft> just did that today
21:39 <Lucifer_arma> I'm emerge syncing again before I try emerge -uDav world so I can have something to google with
21:39 <wrtlprnft> and since that i can't close my cover anymore
21:39 <Lucifer_arma> why not?
21:40 <joda_bot> Lucifer_arma: this block ?
21:40 <joda_bot> Calculating world dependencies... done! 
21:40 <joda_bot> [blocks B     ] <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking x11-apps/xkill-1.0.1)
21:40 <joda_bot> [blocks B     ] x11-libs/libXft (is blocking x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9.0)
21:40 <wrtlprnft> the screen will stay black
21:40 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, that's the block, joda
21:40 <Lucifer_arma> wait
21:40 <joda_bot> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-435172-postdays-0-postorder-asc-highlight-virtuals-start-25.html
21:40 <joda_bot> :-)
21:40 <wrtlprnft> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/modular-x-howto.xml
21:41  * Lucifer_arma curses phpBB opening links in new windows
21:41 <joda_bot> yes, right, just skimmed the topic
21:43 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: i have some nice userJS in opera that scans every page for target="_blank" links and removes that attribute :)
21:43 <wrtlprnft> no page should tell me where to open my links
21:43 <Lucifer_arma> konqueror lets me just say "open links that would open new windows in a new tab instead"
21:43 <Lucifer_arma> why doesn't firefox?
21:44 <Lucifer_arma> I agree in spirit, but there are some applications that really are applications that need to open dialogs and the like
21:44 <Lucifer_arma> but no website should ever try to change my focus from one window to another
21:44 <wrtlprnft> uh
21:44 <Lucifer_arma> especially since it's a maximized browser with no border forced to stay at the bottom, so new windows can only be closed by either the pull-down menu, or alt-f4
21:44 <wrtlprnft> opera never opens a new window anyways
21:45 <wrtlprnft> at least not for pages
21:45 <Lucifer_arma> any idea what the deal is with the nvidia driver on xorg 7.1?
21:46 <wrtlprnft> not me
21:46 <wrtlprnft> i read something on the nvidia driver not working if you have xorg with keyboard support
21:47 <joda_bot> Lucifer_arma: you can tell firefox to open new windows in tabs instead
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21:47 <Lucifer_arma> which version, joda_bot ?  I'm using a pretty old version
21:47 <joda_bot> Lucifer_arma: ok, you've to decide now, do you want opengl or a keyboard :-P
21:47 <joda_bot> 1.5
21:47 <Lucifer_arma> ahhh
21:48 <wrtlprnft> there's mouse keyboard emulators
21:48 <joda_bot> I really like the AdBLock extention for firefox ;)
21:48 <Lucifer_arma> but see, also, Konqueror has had this feature for as long as I can remember, since well before Firefox existed (i.e. back when it was Mozilla/nutscrape still)
21:48 <wrtlprnft> opera has an integrated content blocker
21:48 <Lucifer_arma> I pick keyboard, it's my server, after all
21:48 <wrtlprnft> though i don't use it for ads that much
21:49 <Lucifer_arma> Konqueror sucks solely because of its memory usage, imo
21:49 <Lucifer_arma> how do I search and replace in vi?  heh
21:50 <wrtlprnft> :s/find/replace/g
21:50 <wrtlprnft> and return
21:50 <joda_bot> wrtlprnft: I've got a automatically updated filterset for filtering ads ;)
21:51 <Lucifer_arma> how do I make it match on spaces?
21:51 <joda_bot> and you can add custom rules too
21:51 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: just type the spaces?
21:51 <wrtlprnft> or use \S, that's all whitespace
21:51 <Lucifer_arma> it highlights all the spaces and says "couldn't find pattern"
21:51 <wrtlprnft> ?
21:51 <Lucifer_arma> I don't want all whitespace, just the stuff at the beginning of the lines
21:51 <wrtlprnft> what do you want exactly?
21:52 <Lucifer_arma> well, I copied and pasted a package list using middle-click from a firefox window to a vi session, and it added two spaces on each line
21:52 <wrtlprnft> whitespace at the beginning of the line: :s/^\S*/whateveryouwannareplaceitby/
21:52 <Lucifer_arma> that's iteratively, so the first line has 2, the second has 4, the third has 6, etc
21:52 <wrtlprnft> oh, that is easier
21:52 <wrtlprnft> oh, that
21:52 <wrtlprnft> vi has a paste mode, but i forget how it works :S
21:53 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: just say :paste
21:53 <wrtlprnft> and paste again
21:53 <wrtlprnft> err
21:53 <wrtlprnft> :set paste, that is
21:54 <wrtlprnft> that'll not make it insert any extra whitespace
21:54 <wrtlprnft> *make it not insert
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21:59 <Lucifer_arma> anjori: mepis broke my laptop
22:00 <anjori> 3.4-3? what happened?
22:00 <Lucifer_arma> I guess I should have thought of it before, but I hope it doesn't take all night and any of the morning to build x.org
22:00 <Lucifer_arma> anjori: well, it's the rc that was out a month ago or so.  Wiped out my partition table.  It's the one built on Kubuntu Dapper
22:00 <Lucifer_arma> it was actually the dapper underneath that did the breaking, and *that* is marked "stable"
22:02 <+luke-jr_> I should stop cheating on my server
22:02 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: took about two hours here
22:02 <anjori> eek
22:02 <Lucifer_arma> I recall x wasn't the bottleneck before, it was kde :)
22:02 <wrtlprnft> though it failed all the time since i tried it before and it seems the md5sums have changed
22:02 <Lucifer_arma> so, as long as KDE doesn't have to be rebuilt before I can restart X, I'm fine
22:03 <wrtlprnft> so it asked me to delete the cached file 100 times
22:03 <wrtlprnft> though i could delete quite a few packages at once
22:03 <wrtlprnft> all starting with fonts- or containing proto
22:03 <wrtlprnft> i didn't rebuild kde
22:04 <anjori> i've been taking another look at kubuntu lately--i figure i may as well cut out the middle man if i'm just going to follow mepis to the newest version--and it's already pissing me off
22:04 <Lucifer_arma> well, I dropped back to Breezy, but I set up a total of 3 partitions capable of taking a linux distribution
22:04 <Lucifer_arma> probably going to put gentoo on one, and if that works out I'll mark it my "don't break this, keep it backed up" partition
22:05 <Lucifer_arma> I'm liking gentoo on my server a lot
22:05 <anjori> i don't know why they're putting out such buggy releases as "stable". i also tried the ubuntu side and get artifacts on menu buttons. looked it up, and it's a known bug with ati cards.
22:06 <anjori> this being on a default "stable" install.
22:06 <Lucifer_arma> competition.  Competition seems to have dried up the good linux distributions we used to have so now it's a wasteland of mediocrity :(
22:06 <Lucifer_arma> maybe they want us all to buy macs?  :/
22:07 <Lucifer_arma> Dapper wouldn't even run on this computer, but Breezy ran fine.  What's up with that?  KDE's broken.  What does the K in Kubuntu mean, then, if KDE is broke?!?
22:07  * Lucifer_arma googles for Kentoo
22:07 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_: i just used a kick command on your server
22:09 <anjori> on the kubuntu install i just did, i was going through their new control center settings and there's entire kcontrol modules missing. so there's entire sections missing that just report an annoying message. 
22:10 <anjori> i honestly don't know what all the hype has been about. the only thing different is they have tonnes of money to throw around.
22:10 <Lucifer_arma> breezy was very nice, and still is, I"m on it right now
22:11 <Lucifer_arma> but I didn't even get far enough in dapper to see, I couldn't login because some kprogramorother wouldn't start
22:11 <Lucifer_arma> ksession, or kinit, or something like that.  A dealbreaker for KDE, whatever it was.
22:11 <Lucifer_arma> if that hadn't have happened, I probably wouldn't have had it wipe out my partition table, you know?  That was the weakest link in the whole ordeal, I think.
22:12 <anjori> i think i also tried breezy back when it was the current thing. wasn't impressed with that, either.  wanted to nudge my roommate in the *nix direction, and looked like a fool when he insalled a piece of crap that count even mount his drives
22:12 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know, I think I'm looking at t2 again in a bit, since I figured out why the fonts were so damn ugly.  If the distribution's going to have rough edges, at least have them in places where I can code to fix my problems.
22:13  * Lucifer_arma declares Mandriva LE 2005 as the Last Good Linux--for now.
22:13  * wrtlprnft has a better way to wipe out the harddrive: for i in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7; do dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hda; done
22:14 <Lucifer_arma> you a dapper developer?
22:14 <wrtlprnft> nope
22:14 <wrtlprnft> but they could have done it more sticky, so noone can recover his/her data
22:14 <Lucifer_arma> that's true.  If they really wanted to fuck me, they could have done a better job of it.
22:15 <anjori> i've been wanting to see what distros like mandriva and suse are doing these days, but i cant stan rpm-based distros
22:15 <Lucifer_arma> I love it when new players invent the slingshot, they get so excited!  It's like when your kid wipes his butt for the first time, he's so proud!
22:15 <anjori> i also read something about ubuntu overwriting grub without so much as a prompt
22:16 <Lucifer_arma> YES THEY DID the fucking assholes!
22:16 <Lucifer_arma> only, in my case, it wasn't grub they overwrote, it was the fancy boot manager I had
22:16 <wrtlprnft> don
22:16 <wrtlprnft> 't confuse the users
22:16 <Lucifer_arma> that's how my t2 system I'd fallen back on became unbootable
22:17 <Lucifer_arma> well don't fuck the users, either!
22:17 <wrtlprnft> users are used to being fucked if they come from the windows area
22:17 <wrtlprnft> they're not used to be asked intelligent questions
22:17 <Lucifer_arma> so if a woman says "rape me, I'm used to it", it's ok?
22:17 <anjori> they could at least have an "advanced" option, like they do for partioning
22:18  * wrtlprnft is not saying it's ok
22:18 <anjori> *partitioning
22:18 <wrtlprnft> but it works for most distributions
22:18 <anjori> jesus, i'm tired. all kinds of typos.
22:18 <wrtlprnft> people who know what a boot manager is can reinstall their old one anyways
22:18 <Lucifer_arma> that's different from when you're wide awake in what way?  and why does my tea taste like beer?
22:18 <wrtlprnft> better than beer that tastes like tea
22:18 <Lucifer_arma> uhhh, not exactly, wrtlprnft, because I was left with a broken system
22:19 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: does your system work now?
22:19 <Lucifer_arma> because after that, mepis finished the job dapper started (when I was trying to get something, anything to boot)
22:19 <Lucifer_arma> well yeah, after a complete reformat and stuff
22:19 <wrtlprnft> there you go
22:19 <Lucifer_arma> and a bit of luck my original breezy cds survived all these long months
22:19 <Lucifer_arma> come on, windows users reformat to fix their machines
22:20  * wrtlprnft reboots his server as often as some people reformat their windows computers
22:20 <anjori> their are setups intelligent enough to detect a windows install and append it to grub. they could do that at least. or as i said, an advanced option
22:20  * Lucifer_arma reminds himself to check the package list on t2's livecd to see if he needs to add any tools to deal with the problem he's whining about
22:20 <Lucifer_arma> breezy detected the windows install
22:21 <Lucifer_arma> ummm, dapper did not detect any other linuxes on the machine though, and t2 was hanging out on another partition
22:21 <Lucifer_arma> I'd expect dapper to find windows, but ignoring linux was just silly
22:22 <Lucifer_arma> otoh, there are a lot more distributions out there.  I just don't feel like going through them all to find one I like.
22:22 <Lucifer_arma> what was that one you mentioned that had the 4 corners thing and the mozilla-based window manager?
22:22 <+luke-jr_> what was wrong w/ Gentoo?
22:23 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_: the gentoo machine is running fine right now...
22:23 <wrtlprnft> /devoice wrtlprnft
22:23 <wrtlprnft> 22:22 -!- #armagetron You need to be a channel operator to do that/devoice wrtlprnft
22:23 <anjori> SymphonyOS
22:23 <wrtlprnft> err
22:23 <Lucifer_arma> that's it, thanks :)
22:24 <wrtlprnft> #google symphonyOs
22:24 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Search took 0.69 seconds: Symphony Operating System: <http://www.symphonyos.com/>; Symphony OS :: Index: <http://www.symphonyos.com/forum/>; Index of /linux/ symphonyos: <http://ftp.uwsg.indiana.edu/linux/symphonyos/>; SymphonyOS - Act II (Alpha 4) | tuxmachines.org: <http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/2050>; Tuxmachines' Gallery :: SymphonyOS Alpha 4: (2 more messages)
22:24 <anjori> based on debian (or maybe knoppix, more specifically)
22:24 <anjori> cant remember
22:24 <Lucifer_arma> knoppix
22:24 <Lucifer_arma> they're up to a beta now
22:25 <anjori> it was a very early alpha when i last tried it
22:25 <Lucifer_arma> I guess I'll try anything, and this one looks very promising
22:26 <wrtlprnft> is there a torrent for the beta?!
22:28 <anjori> doesn't appear to be.
22:29 -!- wejp [n=j0hannes@i577BAF7D.versanet.de] has quit [Connection timed out]
22:29 <wrtlprnft> o well
22:29 <Lucifer_arma> no torrent, but the indiana mirror is screaming at 600k/s
22:29 <wrtlprnft> indiana?
22:29 <wrtlprnft> sec
22:30 <wrtlprnft> i had the first one at 200kb/s
22:30 <Lucifer_arma> I'm just rounding 20% on the download
22:30 <anjori> damn
22:30 <wrtlprnft> ah, nice
22:30 <wrtlprnft> ETA 21:00
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22:31 <anjori> maybe i should take another look at it myself
22:31 <wrtlprnft> why do i always mistake anjori for spidey?
22:32 <wrtlprnft> somehow, it's very weird
22:32 <+nemostultae> ohh, nice. Do they have a PPC release? The site is loading so slowly.
22:32 <wrtlprnft> probably since strlen("spidey") == strlen("anjory") ;)
22:33 <wrtlprnft> nemostultae: don't think so
22:33 <wrtlprnft> at least not on the normal DL page
22:33 <Vanhayes> luke-jr_, I crashed your server again...
22:33 <wrtlprnft> wee
22:34 <Vanhayes> I think armagetron should get spell check
22:34 <wrtlprnft> Vanhayes: go and program it
22:34 <wrtlprnft> shouldn't be too hard with the right lib
22:34 <+nemostultae> yea, no PPC version
22:35 <Vanhayes> heh ya ill get right on that
22:35 <wrtlprnft> another dependenciy
22:35  * wrtlprnft is worried about the relationship of dependencies <=> actual code arma has now
22:36 <wrtlprnft> we depend on sdl, opengl, boost, xml2, ftgl, freetype, ...
22:36 <wrtlprnft> i especially don't like the boost dependency
22:38 <Lucifer_arma> 60%
22:38 <wrtlprnft> 39%
22:38  * Lucifer_arma isn't terribly happy about the boost dependency either
22:38 <wrtlprnft> no fair, i started later!
22:39 <Lucifer_arma> :)
22:39 <Lucifer_arma> guru3 and I started downloads one time that he started later and he beat me
22:39  * wrtlprnft connects to Lucifer_arma's server for a bit
22:39 <Lucifer_arma> I don't remember what it was, though
22:39 <@guru3> some iso
22:40  * wrtlprnft decides he has to take an exact look at the recent changes on the wiki
22:40 <wrtlprnft> ie reload it
22:41 <wrtlprnft> sec
22:41 <wrtlprnft> that wastes my downstream more than yours :S
22:42  * wrtlprnft guesses Lucifer_arma is at 75% now?
22:42 <wrtlprnft> 80%
22:45 <wrtlprnft> 90%
22:47 <wrtlprnft> about done by now i guess
22:50 <Lucifer_arma> done
22:50  * Lucifer_arma was in the shitter
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22:51 <anjori> thanks for that tidbit of information.
22:51 <wrtlprnft> again i first read spidey instead of anjori :S
22:51 <Fonkay> Does anyone know anything about installing skins on windows XP?
22:51 <anjori> it's all a mass conspiracy
22:52 <wrtlprnft> not me
22:52  * wrtlprnft goes load the thing in qemu
22:52 <Fonkay> ?
22:52 <anjori> if you would have asked me a year ago. i've tried to purge my brain of such useless information by now.
22:53 <Fonkay> I read the readme file, and the damn thing said "apply it"
22:53 <anjori> so, apply it.
22:53 <Fonkay> funny
22:53 <wrtlprnft> let's see. weak CPU, and the disk image is on a NFS file system over WLAN
22:53 <wrtlprnft> won't be blazing fast i guess
22:54 <anjori> talking about symphony?
22:54 <wrtlprnft> yeah
22:54  * Lucifer_arma burns slow anyway, 4x
22:54 <wrtlprnft> I won't reboot my machine just yet
22:54 <wrtlprnft> so i use qemu to see what it's like
22:55 <Lucifer_arma> the most important question is: does it have ndiswrapper?
22:55 <Fonkay> ugh, I'm so lost
22:55 <wrtlprnft> pfft, get an intel card
22:55 <wrtlprnft> nice opensource driver
22:56 <Lucifer_arma> Fonkay: I don't know the answer to your question, sorry.  Unlike anjori, I never knew.  I don't put useless information in my brain to be purged later.
22:56 <anjori> lucifer: it's built on knoppix, so just get ndiswrapper from the debian repos :P
22:56 <anjori> heh. shush.
22:56 <Lucifer_arma> anjori: got a recommendation on how I should do that?
22:56 <anjori> that was my point :P
22:56 <wrtlprnft> apt-get?
22:56 <Fonkay> ok, well, I quit then
22:56 <Lucifer_arma> uhhh, no ndiswrapper, no network?
22:56 <anjori> he can't without having ndiswrapper first ;)
22:57 <wrtlprnft> temporarily use a lan cable?
22:57 <Lucifer_arma> my server's got the long cable right now
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22:58 <Lucifer_arma> it's ok, I'll just look at their screenshots until the server's done building x.org, with one hand on the mouse and the other....ummmm
22:58 <wrtlprnft> gah, symphony uses the wrong keyboard layout :S
22:58  * wrtlprnft doesn't wanna know
23:00 <wrtlprnft> second, the whole desktop is a web page?
23:01 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
23:01 <Lucifer_arma> sorta
23:01 <Lucifer_arma> it uses mozilla's fancy engine
23:02 <wrtlprnft> together with those image placeholders if they're not loaded yet
23:02 <wrtlprnft> so slow it is
23:02  * Lucifer_arma mutters about qemu and nfs
23:02 <wrtlprnft> not about wlan
23:02 <wrtlprnft> ?
23:03 <Lucifer_arma> still burning
23:03 <Lucifer_arma> getting excited looking at the screenshots
23:03 <wrtlprnft> want me to make some?
23:03 <Lucifer_arma> the careful construction of my desktop was inspired by symphonyOS, so I've had a chance to use some of the concepts they've got and build on them some
23:03 <wrtlprnft> not a lot to see except for some fancy menus tho
23:04 <Lucifer_arma> well, yeah, now I'm bored of their screenshots :)
23:04 <Lucifer_arma> it's like a car, it doesn't get interesting until you drive it
23:05 <wrtlprnft> uh, it takes ages to get something on the screen that's worth schooting anyways
23:06  * wrtlprnft has never been particularily intersted in driving a car
23:08 <wrtlprnft> o_O yet another openoffice compile waiting to happen
23:09 <Lucifer_arma> only 106 more packages left to emerge
23:09 <Lucifer_arma> 105 now
23:10 <wrtlprnft> 36 here, but openoffice takes hours
23:10 <Lucifer_arma> 'm sorry, but I don't want a degree form someone who says "Dergees bsaed on yuor kowdlegdne"
23:10  * wrtlprnft wonders if it's possible that the compile process he just started might make symphony slower than it already is
23:11 <wrtlprnft> take a radian instead?
23:11  * Lucifer_arma wonders if water's wet, if cockroaches are dirty, and if shit smells
23:11 <wrtlprnft> it's significantly more than a degree
23:11 <Lucifer_arma> it's just over 60 degrees, in fact
23:11 <Lucifer_arma> I wonder how many of those are doctorates?
23:11 <wrtlprnft> #g 1 radian in degrees
23:11 <armabot> 1 radian = 57.2957795 degrees
23:12 <wrtlprnft> it's not
23:12 <Lucifer_arma> ?
23:12 <wrtlprnft> #g 1 * 180 / pi
23:12 <armabot> (1 * 180) / pi = 57.2957795
23:12 <Lucifer_arma> #g 1 * 180/pi
23:12 <armabot> (1 * 180) / pi = 57.2957795
23:12 <wrtlprnft> pi is a bit over 3, right?
23:12 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, 3.14someotherstuff
23:12 <wrtlprnft> 180/3 is 60
23:12 <wrtlprnft> so it's more than 3, so it's less than 60
23:13  * Lucifer_arma is remembering it wrong, but can't argue with the conversion
23:13  * wrtlprnft just loves useless nitpicking
23:13 <wrtlprnft> heck, i clicked that close menu button on symphony 5 minutes ago!
23:13 <wrtlprnft> stull nothing happened
23:14  * Lucifer_arma thinks wrtlprnft will learn a new definition of nitpicking sometime after he gets married
23:15 <wrtlprnft> might be
23:15 <Lucifer_arma> ok, cd's burnt
23:16 <Lucifer_arma> got the compile job moved to a screen session
23:16 <Lucifer_arma> now we'll look at symphonyos, after a cigarrette that is
23:17 <Lucifer_arma> probably come back quickly if I don't find ndiswrapper on it
23:23 <wrtlprnft> anyways, if it's based on knoppix it should have that thing
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23:25 <anjori> i just read that it's now based on debian unstable
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23:43 <Lucifer_arma> it has ndiswrapper!
23:43 <Lucifer_arma> on the liveCD, even
23:45 <Lucifer_arma> it's still pretty rough around the edges, though
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23:47 <[Xpert]DarkStar> hello everyone
23:48 <Lucifer_arma> hi
23:49 <[Xpert]DarkStar> finally
23:49 <[Xpert]DarkStar> got my system back in a working state :D
23:49 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah?
23:49 <[Xpert]DarkStar> yeah
23:49 <Vanhayes> hello
23:49  * Lucifer_arma congratulates DarkStar
23:49 <Lucifer_arma> gaim doesn't have tab completion?
23:49 <[Xpert]DarkStar> thanks :D
23:50 <Lucifer_arma> ok, brb, rebooting.
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23:50 <wrtlprnft> gaim sucks ass anyways
23:50 <[Xpert]DarkStar> it's OK
23:50 <[Xpert]DarkStar> but for irc
23:50 <[Xpert]DarkStar> you better use irssi :D
23:50 <[Xpert]DarkStar> and if you do not have X running
23:50 <[Xpert]DarkStar> you can use irssi + bitlbee
23:51 <anjori> i used to use it, but there wasnt any point when i dropped protocols other than jabber. i use psi now
23:51 <[Xpert]DarkStar> psi?
23:51 <[Xpert]DarkStar> so you're a windows person, eh?
23:51 <wrtlprnft> pounds per square inch?
23:51 <wrtlprnft> he isn't
23:51 <[Xpert]DarkStar> isn't psi win only?
23:51 <anjori> http://psi-im.org/
23:51 <anjori> no
23:51 <wrtlprnft> gah, imperial units suck just as gaim sucks
23:52 <[Xpert]DarkStar> wrtlprnft: quarter rotations per leap year
23:52 <anjori> x-chat for irc. though i'm trying out konversation right now
23:52 <wrtlprnft> I won't say kopete rocks, but it does a fine job for the few icq/msn/jabber/aim conversations i have
23:52 <[Xpert]DarkStar> heh
23:53 <anjori> i've tried it a couple times and just can't get into it. seems to be lacking a lot
23:53 <wrtlprnft> irssi or kopete or konversation?
23:54 <anjori> kopete
23:54 <wrtlprnft> doesn't seem to lack anything important to me
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23:54 <wrtlprnft> of course, if you want a truckload of stupid features you're better off with the original software
23:55 <Lucifer_arma> I feel soooo let down
23:55 <Lucifer_arma> at least screen worked out for me :)
23:55 <wrtlprnft> stupid giant smileys, nudges, games, rich text, smileys in nicknames (!), 80 char nicks, all that shit people love
23:55 <wrtlprnft> :D
23:56 <Lucifer_arma> it's on 43 of 108 now
23:56 <Lucifer_arma> I can live with their one-click repo being so small, I'll be happy to try to add more stuff to it
23:56 <Lucifer_arma> but what I can't live with is the fact that 3 of the 4 corners go to useless space
23:57 <Lucifer_arma> what's the point, then?  One is trash, one is just a "file" desktop, but if you click to open a device/directory, it opens a browser on the application desktop
23:57 <Lucifer_arma> one is for config, and there's 2 config programs.  Login manager and desktop manager.  no network config, none of that stuff.  Which I can live with, if they didn't take an entire desktop for that
23:57  * wrtlprnft thinks Lucifer_arma must be happy with a screen that has 8 edges
23:58 <Lucifer_arma> no obvious way to configure the behavior of the desktops, my impression from looking at it before was that they weren't going to let you
23:58 <Lucifer_arma> well, consider what I've got
23:58 <Lucifer_arma> I've got 4 desktops, too.  Right?
23:58 <wrtlprnft> yeah
23:58 <Lucifer_arma> On one is my web browser and email client.  Another has Kate, maximized.
23:58 <Lucifer_arma> A third has my calendar, and the fourth is my "config/file browser/everything else" desktop
23:59 <wrtlprnft> that makes 16 corners?
23:59 <Lucifer_arma> trashcan?  I don't need a trashcan
23:59 <Lucifer_arma> this is my regular kde desktop
23:59 <wrtlprnft> ooooh, all the windows users do
23:59 <[Xpert]DarkStar> does anyone here run Xgl?
23:59 <Lucifer_arma> so yeah, there'd be 16 corners if each one had a separate set of corners
23:59  * wrtlprnft might try once he can actually close his laptop cover
23:59 <Lucifer_arma> look at it that way, Symphony only has one desktop

Log from 2006-07-11:
--- Day changed Tue Jul 11 2006
00:00 <Lucifer_arma> I can handle the rough edges, but it's like living in an apartment after you've lived in a house
00:00  * wrtlprnft likes the apartment more than the house
00:02  * wrtlprnft hates email clients that use AW: instead of Re:
00:02 <Lucifer_arma> ok, it's like moving into a studio apartment after you've lived in a 1/2 bedroom
00:02 <wrtlprnft> that leads to conversations like Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: blah
00:03 <wrtlprnft> darn localisation stuff
00:03  * [Xpert]DarkStar searches his desk for the headset
00:04 <wrtlprnft> anyways
00:04 <wrtlprnft> #night
00:04 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
00:04 <[Xpert]DarkStar> night wrtlprnft 
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00:07 <Vanhayes> spidey|zzz, you there?
00:09 <[Xpert]DarkStar> i'm off
00:09 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #night
00:09 <armabot> Good night [Xpert]DarkStar!
00:09 <Vanhayes> night
00:12 <Lucifer_arma> damn.  eta on kde 4 developer release is october
00:12  * Lucifer_arma wonders how stable it'll be then
00:14 -!- spidey|zzz is now known as spidey
00:14 <spidey> yo
00:15  * anjori is very excited to see what kde4 will bring
00:16 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
00:17  * Lucifer_arma wants to start running plasma right now
00:18 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5634 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tron/gCycle.cpp: More missing initializations.
00:19 <Lucifer_arma> finally got to the plasma channel, and couldn't think of what I wanted to ask :)
00:20  * Lucifer_arma wonders how many people in #kde use gaim
00:21 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5635 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tron/gCycleMovement.cpp:
00:21 <armabot> armagetronad: Improved rubber precision by predicting rubber usage for the reservoir mindistance.
00:21 <armabot> armagetronad: Smoothly blend from distance based turn commands (without rubber active) to time based turn commands (with full rubber active, when sitting directly in front of a wall).
00:21 <z-man> I hope that finally eliminates the bugfarm lag
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00:44 <+luke-jr_> Vanhayes: it would restart after a crash immediately-- maybe you just misconfigured it? ;)
00:44 <+luke-jr_> Vanhayes: in which case, it takes at most an hour
00:44 <+luke-jr_> nemostultae: so compile a PPC build? O.o
00:45 <Vanhayes> I just put in the wrong map file, missspelled it or left out a capital or something
00:45 <+luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: anjori: funny you talk about kde4-- just got the dependencies cleared up on my desktop system
00:45 <+luke-jr_> Vanhayes: I have DEDICATED_IDLE 1 set
00:48 <Lucifer_arma> bbiab, gonna fool with icewm
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00:52 <madmax|pt> o_O
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01:03 <spidey> i wish mepis had a server install :/
01:05 <Lucifer_arma> I am now installing a whole shitload of window managers
01:06 <spidey> hahaha
01:06 <spidey> try blackbox
01:06 <Lucifer_arma> that's in there
01:06 <spidey> you'll like it if you can configure it
01:06 <Lucifer_arma> I want something that gives me what icewm promises.  :)
01:06 <Lucifer_arma> workspaces instead of desktops
01:06 <spidey> um
01:06 <spidey> flux and blackbox does that
01:06 <Lucifer_arma> I'm like 80% there with kde3.5, and kde4 will in all likelihood give me everything I want
01:07 <Lucifer_arma> but kde4 isn't here *now*
01:08 <Lucifer_arma> ok, biab
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01:09 <+luke-jr_> what's the difference between a workspace and a desktop?
01:09 <spidey> not sure
01:09 <spidey> lol
01:09 <+luke-jr_> =p
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01:10 <+luke-jr_> what's the difference between a workspace and a desktop?
01:10 <spidey> lol
01:10 <+luke-jr_> ...
01:10 <+luke-jr_> w00t KDE 4 configured
01:11 <+luke-jr_> ooh, colourful makefiles
01:11 <+luke-jr_> purple and green, too
01:11 <+luke-jr_> my fav. colours!
01:11 <+luke-jr_> and blue!
01:11 <Lucifer_arma> now how the hell do I configure this thing?
01:11 <Lucifer_arma> it's blackbox
01:11 <+luke-jr_> blue is moc
01:11 <+luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: what's the difference between a workspace and a desktop?
01:12 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, right click the desktop
01:12 <spidey> xTerm
01:12 <spidey> locate blackbox
01:12 <+luke-jr_> lol
01:12 <spidey> use nano to edit the files
01:12 <+luke-jr_> no, use vim!
01:12 <spidey> nano!
01:13 <+luke-jr_> =p
01:13 <+luke-jr_> joe!
01:13 <+luke-jr_> nono
01:13 <+luke-jr_> jstar!1
01:13 <spidey> lol
01:13 <Lucifer_arma> edit the files?  how quaint
01:13 <spidey> quaint?
01:13  * luke-jr_ bets Lucifer_arma would be at home w/ jstar =p
01:13 <+luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: so... going to differentiate workspace and desktop for us?
01:14 <Lucifer_arma> no, for the same reason I don't try to differentiate red and blue for my kids
01:14 <+luke-jr_> ...
01:14 <Lucifer_arma> if it's not obvious, that's your problem
01:14 <spidey> LOL
01:14 <+luke-jr_> nobody else here has said they know what you're talking about
01:15 <+luke-jr_> seems to me like only you know
01:16 <Lucifer_arma> not really relevant, luke.  I've learned not to answer your questions unless you actually need help doing something
01:16 <Lucifer_arma> because it's just a waste of time.  You're going to nitpick every detail and completely ignore what I'm actually trying to say.
01:16 <[Xpert]DarkStar> re
01:16 <Lucifer_arma> why should I bother?  just 1 good reason.
01:17 <Lucifer_arma> it does have to be a factual reason that can be supported by objective experiences
01:18 <spidey> O_o
01:18 <spidey> yo
01:18 <spidey> smaller words please!
01:18 <Lucifer_arma> #dict smaller
01:18 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: wn: smaller adj : small or little relative to something else [syn: {littler}]; moby-thes: 32 Moby Thesaurus words for "smaller": abated, ablated, attenuated, bated, belittled, consumed, contracted, curtailed, decreased, deflated, diminished, dissipated, dropped, eroded, fallen, fewer, less, lesser, lower, lowered, miniaturized, not so (7 more messages)
01:18 <spidey> ok luke-jr
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01:21  * [Xpert]DarkStar turns on keyboard backlight
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01:21 <[Xpert]DarkStar> wb
01:21 <Lucifer_arma> re
01:21 <spidey> mm
01:22 <Lucifer_arma> so, everything but kde crashed after I ran blackbox for a little bit :(
01:22 <[Xpert]DarkStar> lol
01:22 <spidey> players
01:22 <spidey> er
01:22 <[Xpert]DarkStar> use fluxbox anyway
01:22 <+luke-jr_> lucifer_arma: I can't help you find what you're looking for if I haven't a clue what it is?
01:23 <[Xpert]DarkStar> to all gentoo users: is it a good idea to emerge gnome on a 500mhz machine?
01:24 <+luke-jr_> [Xpert]DarkStar: it's a bad idea to emerge gnome on any machine
01:25 <[Xpert]DarkStar> depends...
01:25 <[Xpert]DarkStar> i need it to play with xgl...
01:25 <[Xpert]DarkStar> and xgl is so damn cool man
01:26 <[Xpert]DarkStar> makes vista and mac os x looks like crap
01:26 <[Xpert]DarkStar> well
01:26 <Lucifer_arma> biab
01:26 <[Xpert]DarkStar> vista is crap anyway
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01:28 <[Xpert]DarkStar> luke-jr_: why would you say gnome is bad?
01:29 <+luke-jr_> [Xpert]DarkStar: slow, unusable, ugly, etc
01:29 <[Xpert]DarkStar> well
01:29 <+luke-jr_> KDE won't work?
01:29 <+luke-jr_> how about twm? =p
01:30 <[Xpert]DarkStar> twm rocks :P
01:30 <[Xpert]DarkStar> no honestly... twm is the only thing i have right now
01:30 <[Xpert]DarkStar> and i hate it
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01:30 <[Xpert]DarkStar> haven't tried kde yet
01:30 <[Xpert]DarkStar> but i'm not really a friend of kde...
01:31 <[Xpert]DarkStar> iirc xgl will work with kde4
01:31 <Lucifer_arma> how the hell do you use xfce?
01:32 <[Xpert]DarkStar> xfce?
01:32 <+nemostultae> xfce
01:32 <[Xpert]DarkStar> lol
01:32 <[Xpert]DarkStar> never used xfce
01:32 <+nemostultae> I have
01:32 <[Xpert]DarkStar> is it good?
01:32 <+nemostultae> not so much
01:32 <[Xpert]DarkStar> what makes it not so good?
01:32 <+nemostultae> well I used it on my sparcbox, it was still kinda slow
01:33 <[Xpert]DarkStar> sparc :D
01:33 <Lucifer_arma> how about the fact that every xfce application is crashing?
01:33 <[Xpert]DarkStar> enough to keep me away from xfce
01:33 <[Xpert]DarkStar> i used to use fluxbox
01:33 <[Xpert]DarkStar> that one is nice
01:34 <[Xpert]DarkStar> anyway... gnome is cool too
01:34 <+nemostultae> try wmii 3 if you want your head to explode, or you like vim.
01:34 <+nemostultae> of if*
01:34 <[Xpert]DarkStar> try xpde if you want to puke or if you like wintendo
01:34 <+nemostultae> or if*
01:34 <+nemostultae> *
01:35  * madmax|pt *
01:35 <Lucifer_arma> everything that tries to open a new window is falling apart :(
01:35 <[Xpert]DarkStar> wintendo is a cool name for the most useless wannabe-OS
01:35 <Lucifer_arma> shame, it looks really nice
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01:36 <[Xpert]DarkStar> the gnome emerge is going rather slow on my old vaio... hope it'll finish some time this week...
01:38 <[Xpert]DarkStar> god... the vaio is like overheating :S
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01:46 <Lucifer_arma> aha, xfce is broke in kubuntu
01:47 <[Xpert]DarkStar> i still prefer gentoo to any other distro
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01:49 <[Xpert]DarkStar> wb
01:49 <Lucifer_arma> window maker started without crashing
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01:55 <[Xpert]DarkStar> shit...
01:56 <[Xpert]DarkStar> locked up my box -.-
01:59 <[Xpert]DarkStar> gonna try sleeping again
02:00 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #night
02:00 <armabot> Good night [Xpert]DarkStar!
02:06 <Lucifer_arma> window maker is very nice
02:06 <spidey> which one?
02:06 <spidey> ohnvm
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03:30 <mkzelda> can u put a trigger into the bot that will tell u a full command for svn co
03:31 <mkzelda> i always have to reference the web, a trigger would be sweet
03:32 <+nemostultae> sure, just make an alias to echo the command
03:39 <mkzelda> i dont think the bot listens to me anymore
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04:14  * spidey pokes mom
04:14 <Your_mom_arma> hey
04:15 <spidey> mm
04:15  * spidey thinks about hosting another server on my webserver
04:15 <spidey> i got 500gb transfer and only use like 400mb
04:15 <spidey> lol
04:15 <Your_mom_arma> does someone else host it?
04:15 <spidey> ya
04:16 <spidey> the people i get my webserver hosting
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05:27 <Lizz> hello whoevers here'
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> hi wolvie
05:27 <Lizz> hiya luci
05:28  * Lucifer_arma wants to write a desktop environment with pyqt
05:28 <Lizz> why not just write with a pen like normal ppl?
05:28  * Lucifer_arma thinks he'll put gentoo on one of his spare partitions so next time he thinks about writing a desktop environment, he can
05:28  * Lucifer_arma wonders where Lizz got the idea he did things like normal people
05:29 <Lizz> gossip
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> blasphemy!
05:29 <Lizz> i heard u were as normal as they come
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> well, I've always thought you MBCers lived in a cave
05:29 <Lizz> we do
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> #list alias
05:30 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: #, 42, add, admin, all, answer, anvil, armabot, armabot,, b, barf, bug, canada, canada2, ch, chatlog, clash, coin, digg, dotdotdot, eightballs, eliza, f, fe, fluffy, fortune, g, gcalc, goodbye, hello, help, hose, ignoreme, insight, it's, joke, knock, less, lipsum, lock, log, log, lotto, lukejr, m, man, mashuffle, message, mfaq, missed, morning, night, pang, parrot, peng, poke, pong, (1 more message)
05:30 <Lizz> i like my animal fur bed and my men sparcely dressed
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> throw some soy sauce on that mixture and I'll grill it for ya
05:30 <Lizz> u gonna grill me a man?
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> you provide the man, of course
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> but don't use poison, it toughens the meat
05:31 <Lizz> ill just take a couple from that list over ~~~~~> there
05:31 <spidey> don't use luke-jr_
05:31 <Lizz> naa.. too young anyway
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> too stringy?
05:32 <spidey> LOL
05:32 <Lizz> need older meat
05:32 <spidey> you could always use cusco
05:32 <Lucifer_arma> sure he's not a bot?
05:32 <Lizz> maybe drat
05:32 <Lucifer_arma> only if you like the taste of marijuana in your meat
05:33 <Lizz> and even tho anj is young like luke.. hes hot 
05:33 <Lucifer_arma> but there's something to say about a guy that gets you high when he's on your plate
05:33 <Lizz> mmmm
05:33 <spidey> LOL
05:33 <Lizz> i wonder if he will lick the bowl..
05:33 <Lucifer_arma> definitely not Vanhayes.  Frozen meat doesn't cook up too well
05:33 <spidey> lol
05:33 <Lizz> but i hear canadian meat is sweet
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> but it takes years to thaw it out
05:34 <spidey> hahha
05:34 <spidey> i just got that
05:34 <Lizz> not if u use the erm.. right cooking technique luci
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> well, I usually do stir-fry, which requires the meat to be thawed enough to cut
05:35 <Lizz> unless ur in mongolia
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> manflesh is generally too stringy for other things, and too bony too
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, mongolian barbecue
05:36  * Lucifer_arma loves mongolian barbecue
05:36 <spidey> #g 45/3
05:36 <armabot> 45 / 3 = 15
05:36 <Lizz> mongolian cooking shaves the meat while frozen then stir frys it
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> yep
05:36 <Lizz> is yum
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> is very yum
05:36 <Lizz> :)
05:37 <spidey> what shit
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> is mostly lamb, iirc, so naturally the only way to get it down here is pork, chicken, and beef
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> lamb is expensive
05:37  * spidey notes that because you put a cigarette out
05:37 <spidey> it isn't out
05:37 <Lizz> cant possible eat spider seeing as hes my kid.. so.. will have to go with drat as hes older
05:37  * spidey has 4 holes in his binder now
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> well, we need spidey around anyway.  He has a knack for producing armagetron servers
05:38 <Lizz> lambs cheap here.. so mongolian is common
05:38 <spidey> i'm getting 3 more!
05:38 <spidey> 2 more**
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> if he learned how to build arma on mac, he'd have a hundred of 'em already
05:38 <Lizz> lol
05:38 <spidey> :/
05:38 <spidey> um
05:39 <spidey> the first server
05:39 <mkzelda> what is it I edit to fix the prob w/ boostrap
05:39 <spidey> was run on a mac
05:39 <mkzelda> the custom dirs
05:39 <spidey> btw
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> there's a problem with bootstrap?
05:40 <Lizz> bbiab.. i fancy a shower
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> ko.  I've got some work to do anyway.
05:40 <mkzelda> yea, something w/ luke's custom directories
05:41 <mkzelda> just have to comment something and it works
05:42 <mkzelda> m4_include(accustomdir.m4) in configure.ac
05:42 <mkzelda> i can confirm that on several machines
05:44  * Lucifer_arma has been wondering what accustomdir.m4 has in it
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> yay, updating my server finally
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> is modular x that much better than the old stuff?
05:44 <mkzelda> yay, got my amd64 working for first time in like 2 months
05:44 <mkzelda> YES
05:44 <mkzelda> as are the split kde ebuilds
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmm
05:45 <spidey> wow
05:45 <mkzelda> recompiling 1 300k app instead of the whole 30mb junk
05:45 <spidey> i'm on page 10 already O_o
05:45 <mkzelda> everything is getting updated so much faster now
05:45 <mkzelda> so much progress on all Xorg code
05:45 <mkzelda> they needed it a long time ago
05:45  * spidey should update his X
05:45 <spidey> it errors out to much
05:47 <mkzelda> sdl-image, smpeg, sdl-mixer, ftgl, boost... any other deps?
05:50 <Lucifer_arma> boost is the only one that doesn't get caught by configure
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> libvorbis is needed for the sound effects, but sdl-mixer should catch that for you
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> libxml2
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> libsdl (the core library, of course)
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> an opengl devel package :)
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> I think that's it
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> pretty damn recent autotools, but you won't even get a configure script without that
05:55 <mkzelda> woooo
05:55 <mkzelda> finally
05:55 <mkzelda> havent used trunk in a long time
05:56 <mkzelda> how i've missed nick/command completion
05:56 <mkzelda> and playlists
05:58 <Lucifer_arma> heh.  I think you're the only person who's told me he's happy with the music stuff.  :(
05:58 <mkzelda> works great for me, cept i liked it more when the playlist auto-started
05:58 <Lucifer_arma> not that it couldn't be better, just that people have complained a lot since 0.3.0 came out.
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I liked it more then, too.
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> it felt more real
05:59  * Lucifer_arma doesn't even know why it stopped auto-starting
06:00 <mkzelda> i often forget to start it
06:00 <mkzelda> and realize ive played an hour w/ no music
06:00 <spidey> lol
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> I've been doing without for a little while, but now that 0.3.0's out, I can tear up the sound engine again
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> maybe later this week....we'll see
06:00 <mkzelda> now that its using this different font, i cant read the menu item descriptions
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> they flow off the screen?
06:00 <mkzelda> yea
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> nag wrtlprnft about it when you see him next :)
06:00 <mkzelda> k
06:01 <spidey> actually
06:01 <spidey> that's the table posistion
06:01 <spidey> move it more to the left
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> for menu item descriptions?
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> like, when you hover on a menu item and you see a little blurb at the bottom that describes it to you?
06:02 <spidey> that shows the thing playing up in the top right?
06:02 <Lucifer_arma> nononono
06:02 <spidey> oh
06:02 <mkzelda> yes
06:02 <mkzelda> for that luci
06:02 <mkzelda> on swap mode i noticed it
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> it's been there a little while.  The new font system is still settling.  :)
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> even so, the planned font system isn't here yet.
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> if we can call what we want a planned system, heh
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> good USE flags for a kde system?
06:06 <mkzelda> omg this looks nice
06:06 <mkzelda> how much ram u have?
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> that's a pretty good question
06:07 <spidey> LOL
06:07 <Lizz> sorry to but in.. but can u plz tell me who owns shrunkland server?
06:07 <spidey> cat /proc/meminfo
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> looks like 512MB
06:07 <mkzelda> theres a kdeenablefinal flag
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> Lizz: last I checked, Swampy still owned it, but Silly was remote admin there
06:07 <mkzelda> that will speed compilation time
06:07 <Lizz> ok ty luci
06:07 <mkzelda> thats not helpful for system, but relevant if you're about to build
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> why?  you get booted for being in a clan?
06:07 <spidey> spidey@fbi.gov[~]$ cat /proc/meminfo
06:07 <spidey> MemTotal:       377112 kB
06:07 <spidey> :(
06:08 <Lucifer_arma> mkzelda: I'm about to build
06:08 <Lizz> not today no
06:08 <Lucifer_arma> so, something I can copy and paste would be nice :)
06:08 <spidey> silly = scope?
06:08 <mkzelda> it works by creating one giant file instead of lots of little ones
06:08 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, now louven
06:08 <spidey> bah
06:08 <Lizz> was guy MBC lmao
06:08  * Lucifer_arma nods
06:08 <spidey> heh
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, I'm planning on hacking this system pretty hard
06:09 <mkzelda> USE="kdeenablefinal kdehiddenvisibility xinerama" emerge -av kdebase-startkde
06:09 <spidey> he's never kicked me for being clan
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> ahhh, I'm not quite there
06:09 <Lizz> guy woill just boot me coz he dont like me.. so will just avoid that server when hes there.. thx luci for the info
06:09 <mkzelda> i dunno what all u plan to use
06:09 <Lizz> will*
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> these are use flags for make.conf
06:09 <mkzelda> yea
06:09 <mkzelda> im throwing those suggestions out there already
06:09 <mkzelda> and if u do that command line u can see what use flags are available
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> ahh, haven't chrooted yet
06:10 <mkzelda> i usually do that to see what i might be missing
06:10 <mkzelda> i usually have a lot of multimedia use flags
06:11 <mkzelda> mp3 flac ogg vorbis wma wmf win32codecs real quicktime mpeg mad ffmpeg...
06:11 <mkzelda> i do a lot of console use flags too
06:11 <mkzelda> fbcon svga directfb aalib libcaca
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_Gentoo_Linux:_Configuring  <-- how do these look, the ones down the page a bit?
06:16 <mkzelda> yea they look fine
06:16 <mkzelda> its not terribly bad to forget something
06:17 <mkzelda> if u add some use flag to make.conf and then do an emerge -Nav world u can see all the packages that will be rebuilt b/c they didnt have the use flag before
06:17 <mkzelda> but i'd definatly use that kdeenablefinal and kdehiddenvisibility b4 u start kde
06:17 <mkzelda> and i'd suggest the split ebuild kde instead of monolithic
06:18 <mkzelda> so u only have to snag like 100 apps instead of the 380ish the large kde builds have
06:18 <mkzelda> no more kdeedu and junk
06:19 <Lucifer_arma> actually, I want the kdeedu and junk :)
06:19 <Lucifer_arma> call me crazy....
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> what's a good mirror?
06:20 <mkzelda> if u want everything, then dont go that route, it will take longer
06:20 <mkzelda> u dont have to worry about that so much anymore
06:20 <mkzelda> the default server chucks you out pretty well
06:20 <mkzelda> its a mirror rotation
06:20 <mkzelda> but mirror.datapipe.net does well for me
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> I don't even have a mirror marked on the server
06:21 <mkzelda> yea, its got a default if u dont set anything
06:21 <mkzelda> and the default is the rotating linker
06:21 <mkzelda> i just did that this last install and everything i dl'd went at 600k/s
06:22 <mkzelda> add ccache and parallel-fetch to your FEATURES=
06:22 <mkzelda> parallel-fetch will start downloading the files for the next package to emerge while compiling the first
06:22 <mkzelda> ccache is compiler cache
06:23 <mkzelda> emerge ccache before you get going on a long emerge, and run ccache -M 2G (or however much space you want to use)
06:24 <mkzelda> 2G igs is a good amount
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm.....  emerge --sync right now
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> just chrooted
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> ooo, do I need an ndiswrapper use flag?
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> heh
06:26  * Lucifer_arma puts "buy a wlan card supported by linux natively" on his todo list
06:26  * Lucifer_arma is getting tired of dealing with ndiswrapper
06:26 <mkzelda> i'd guess u need that, ive never had a need for that so i dunno
06:27 <mkzelda> heh, remember that flame thread
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> yeah.  but I'm using Kubuntu as the host, not the liveCD
06:27 <mkzelda> yea
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> but I'm remembering that and some support I got in #gentoo and still hoping for the best
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> when I was fooling with window managers earlier, I had an epiphany.  I *can* write a desktop environment in python using pyqt and have a good window manager
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> the problem is, if I'm going to do that, I really need to use pyqt4, but on this kubuntu machine, I can' thave pyqt3 and pyqt4 together for some weird reason
06:31 <mkzelda> so u gonna do that when u get this install done?
06:31 <mkzelda> just discovered gtk-engines-qt
06:31 <mkzelda> makes gtk apps look like your current kde theme
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> I'm thinking seriously about it, since that was the dealbreaker
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, apparently kubuntu uses the gtk-themes-qt thing, because my gtk apps fit right in
06:32 <mkzelda> about 8 years ago i used to have a super hacked up afterstep that was what i considered perfection
06:32 <mkzelda> ive never had a wm/de anywhere close to that again
06:33 <mkzelda> i'd use the new as 2.0 series but its got like 2 major things i hate about it and cant for the life of me figure out how to fix
06:33 <mkzelda> like 16 virtual desktops
06:33 <mkzelda> its xinerama behaviour is a bit retarded
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> well, hmmm.  xinerama isn't a big deal to me.  heh
06:37 <mkzelda> its not for me anymore either now that i've had 2 19" monitors die
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> I tried out SymphonyOS earlier today, and my final impression was that they bit off more than they can chew, and they're using the wrong platform fundamentally.
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> mozilla just doesn't make a very good desktop environment.  It sounds nice, but it just doesn't work.  :(
06:37 <mkzelda> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=110353 
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> actually, my firefox looks very nice right now
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> but I must admit I don't remember which theme I picked :)
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> (kde theme, that is)
06:41 <mkzelda> woo, finally some signs of gigabit lan
06:41 <mkzelda> 21350K/s
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> what's ping times look like?  same?
06:42 <mkzelda> i think its the read speed of source files thats limiting more th an the write speed of destination
06:42 <mkzelda> probably
06:42 <mkzelda> havent gotten that fire
06:42 <mkzelda> transferring over music for playlist
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, used to be that my server wasn't fast enough for my network.  :)  It is now, though.
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> well, kernel's building now
06:43 <mkzelda> my harddrives in all my machines are crappy, cept my 2 new 10,000rpm 16mb cache sata150 drives
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> my server's installing qt4 for some reason
06:44 <mkzelda> kpdf requires cairo, cairo has qt3 and qt4 use flags
06:44 <mkzelda> both can exist simultaneously
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> heh.  I've got reasonably fast hard drives, it's still the CPU that's the bottleneck on the server.
06:44 <mkzelda> its slotted
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, it's only Kubuntu that doesn't like qt3 and qt4 next to each other
06:44 <mkzelda> both are needed at this point
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> I'll be happy to change to pyqt4!
06:44 <mkzelda> qt3 is required still,
06:44 <mkzelda> as a large chunk of kde still uses it
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> provided it'll respect my chosen kde theme :)
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> well, if I write my python desktop environment, I'd like to start with qt4 from the get-go ;)
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know, it might be worth my time to see what wxUniversal looks like
06:46 <mkzelda> kde 4 series will be all qt4
06:46 <mkzelda> obviously
06:46 <mkzelda> heh
06:46 <mkzelda> i dont think they're too far away
06:46 <mkzelda> another year?
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> october is the first scheduled developer release
06:46 <mkzelda> they have a project status page
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> ok, the wxX11 screenshots are freaking ugly
06:55 <spidey> mm
06:55 <spidey> i'ma try something
06:55 <spidey> wooo
06:55 <spidey> i can x out xchat but keep a undocked window of it open
07:03 <mkzelda> i like this new font for most things, but not the scoreboard
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07:14 <spidey> erm
07:15 <spidey> i tried to download the autopackage and got the source instead of the download :/
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> oops
07:16  * Lucifer_arma loves the new font for all things ingame
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> but I tried it in konversation and it wasn't pretty
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> heh
07:16 <spidey> lol
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07:28  * spidey growls
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07:30 <Lucifer_arma> spiders don't growl
07:30 <spidey> this one does
07:30 <spidey> xD
07:30  * Lucifer_arma politely greets z-man 
07:31  * spidey trips z-man O_o
07:31  * Lucifer_arma eats one of spidey's legs--the chewy one
07:31 <spidey> ::o
07:31 <Lucifer_arma> I'll tell you what, if you want to scare a young kid, tell them you'll eat them if they don't do something
07:32 <spidey> hahahahah
07:32 <Lucifer_arma> as in "You've got 5 minutes to clean your room or you'll be my dinner"
07:32 <spidey> hey to change "someone "core dumped" someone to
07:32 <Vanhayes> #g 22*14*6*4*12
07:32 <Lucifer_arma> just, uh, don't get in the habit of making threats to kids you can't execute on
07:32 <armabot> 22 * 14 * 6 * 4 * 12 = 88,704
07:32 <Lucifer_arma> language file, spidey
07:32 <spidey> "someone "pwned" someone
07:32 <spidey> ohhhhh
07:32 <Lucifer_arma> in fact, the thing to do is to create a new one and put the messages you want in it
07:32 <spidey> i didn't see that?
07:32 <Lucifer_arma> then add that file to languages.txt
07:33  * Lucifer_arma should write that up on the wiki sometime
07:33 <spidey> where's the language file O_o
07:33 <Vanhayes> 13*6*4*12
07:33 <Lucifer_arma> prefix/share/games/armagetronad/languages ?
07:33 <Vanhayes> #g 13*6*4*12
07:33 <armabot> 13 * 6 * 4 * 12 = 3,744
07:34 <Vanhayes> #g 13*14*6*4*12
07:34 <armabot> 13 * 14 * 6 * 4 * 12 = 52,416
07:34 <spidey> /home/spidey/Desktop/armagetronad-
07:34 <Vanhayes> hmm
07:34 <spidey> remember i couldn't install the autopackage
07:34 <spidey> so luke just extracted it
07:34 <spidey> and it runs like that
07:35 <Lucifer_arma> couldn't install it?
07:35 <spidey> on the webserver
07:35 <Lucifer_arma> webserver?
07:35 <spidey> yar....
07:35 <spidey> that's where my fort server is running
07:35 <spidey> :p
07:35 <Lucifer_arma> yar....?
07:35 <spidey> yea....
07:35 <Lucifer_arma> your webserver?
07:35  * spidey pokes Lucifer_arma 
07:36 <Vanhayes> spidey, is a pirate
07:36 <spidey> LOL
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> VANHAYES IS THE COMMA KING
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> the king of commas
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> the prince of punctuation
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> that's it
07:37 <spidey> Search string 'core' not found!
07:37 <Vanhayes> nah not all puncuation, mostly just commas
07:37 <Lucifer_arma> he is also the spelling sissy
07:38 <Vanhayes> how so?
07:42 <Vanhayes> #g  52,416- 88,704
07:42 <armabot> 52,416 - 88,704 = -36,288
07:43 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, i don't see where to edit it...
07:43 <spidey> i looked in languages.txt
07:43 <Lucifer_arma> that's the file you add your special file to
07:43 <spidey> languages.txt.in
07:43 <Lucifer_arma> english_base is the one you want
07:44 <spidey> yea i looked there to
07:44 <spidey> and 
07:44 <spidey> english_base_notranslate.txt
07:44 <spidey> that one to
07:44 <spidey> End of document reached.
07:44 <spidey> Continue from the beginning?
07:44 <spidey> Search string 'ciore dump' not found!
07:45 <Lucifer_arma> line 2066 of english_base.txt
07:45 <spidey> wow
07:45 <spidey> gimme some words from it
07:45 <spidey> lol
07:45 <spidey> kwrite doesn't show lines
07:45 <Lucifer_arma> view->show line numbers
07:46  * Lucifer_arma rolls eyes
07:46 <spidey> network_kill_full			The server is full.
07:46 <spidey> that's 2066
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> ummmmmm
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> english_base.txt?
07:46 <spidey> yes
07:47 <spidey> this is 2.8.2 right?
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> player_win_frag			\1 core dumped \3 for \2 points.\n
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> fine, search player_win_frag then
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> oh, I'm looking in the trunk
07:47 <spidey> Search string 'player_win_frag ...3 for \2 points.\n' not found!
07:47 <spidey> lol
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> search just player_win_frag
07:50 <spidey> Search string 'player_win_frag' not found!
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> look harder?
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> find this:
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> #********************************************
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> #********************************************
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> #
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> #  messages about player activity
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> #
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> #********************************************
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> #********************************************
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> user your eyes to find it if you need to, that's how I usually found it
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07:55 <Vanhayes> #list
07:55 <armabot> Vanhayes: Admin, Alias, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, Dict, Games, Google, Herald, Insult, Later, Math, Misc, News, Owner, Praise, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Time, Unix, User, Utilities, and Web
07:56 <spidey> omg
07:56 <spidey> i found it then messed something up
07:56 <spidey> lol
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08:01 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5636 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/network/ (nNetObject.cpp nNetObject.h): Added facility for WriteSync() implementations to find out who the sync is for.
08:02  * Lizz slaps spider
08:02 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5637 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Added lag compensation hack for old clients.
08:08 <spidey> ok
08:08 <spidey> setting changed
08:08  * spidey bets he did it wrong
08:08 <Vanhayes> is it up?
08:12 <Lizz> hiya vanners
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> it'll be entertaining if my laptop manages to emerge all of kde before my server finished qt4
08:18 <spidey> it worked
08:18 <spidey> lol
08:20 <Vanhayes> hey Lizz 
08:23 <spidey> gotta write the enter message about noobs
08:23 <Vanhayes> ehat about tking message?
08:24 <spidey> no,about teaching before kicking :p
08:24 <Vanhayes> What*
08:24 <Lizz> what u gonna say re noobs?
08:24 <Lizz> seeing psyko called me one >.<
08:24 <spidey> LOL
08:24 <spidey> he doesn't count
08:24 <Lizz> i kno.. fw
08:24 <Lizz> :D
08:24 <spidey> lol
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> ok, that's it.  Next time I find the alias plugin so littered with junk, I'm disabling it.
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> #list alias
08:25 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: add, bug, chatlog, digg, dotdotdot, g, gcalc, goodbye, hello, insight, lock, log, log, m, man, message, mfaq, morning, night, q, realchatlogs, remove, unlock, and wikipedia
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> I was quite ruthless about it, I think
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> but still with a spark of generosity
08:25 <spidey> #help gcalc
08:25 <armabot> spidey: (gcalc <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "google calc $*".
08:25 <spidey> #help g
08:25 <armabot> spidey: (g <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo [google calc $*]".
08:25 <Lizz> i have nfi what ur on about luci.. but whatever u say lol
08:25 <spidey> you missed one
08:26 <spidey> :p
08:26 <Lucifer_arma> ?  those are both useful aliases
08:26 <spidey> they're both the samething
08:26 <Lucifer_arma> that doesn't mean they're not useful
08:26 <spidey> #gcalc 5*5
08:26 <Lucifer_arma> m and message are the same things too
08:26 <armabot> spidey: 5 * 5 = 25
08:26 <spidey> #g 5*5
08:26 <armabot> 5 * 5 = 25
08:27 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, should i disable kick voting?
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know, should you?
08:28 <spidey> dunno
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> personally I like to have it.  The alternative is a small army of moderators, and keeping them in check isn't something I want to do
08:28 <spidey> it's a place to help new players learn
08:28 <spidey> if they can kick they'll do that first
08:28 <spidey> but
08:28 <spidey> if one of the people that know how to play starrt fucking around
08:29 <spidey> they're stuck with them
08:29 <Lucifer_arma> in my own experience, people will abuse the lack of kick voting more often than not having it will help
08:30 <Lucifer_arma> I prefer instead to be easily accessible to players and to respond quickly and decisively when there are problems
08:30 <Lucifer_arma> I've been known to ban people for talking trash to new players...
08:30 <spidey> heh
08:30 <spidey> ah
08:30 <spidey> mmm
08:30 <spidey> 1 connection per ip
08:30 <spidey> i like that
08:31 <Vanhayes> #help wikipedia
08:31 <armabot> Vanhayes: (wikipedia <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "google site:http://en.wikipedia.org/ $*".
08:31 <Lucifer_arma> a fair amount of new players come in with a friend :)
08:31 <spidey> er
08:31 <Lucifer_arma> it's probably a minority of them...
08:31 <spidey> ok
08:31 <spidey> i'll set it to 2
08:32 <Lucifer_arma> wow, my laptop is already on package 52, and my server is still stuck on qt4
08:33 <Lucifer_arma> I didn't seriously think my laptop would finish first, but it's about halfway through
08:33 <spidey> O_o
08:34 <Lizz> if u have bot trouble spider.. set it to 1 person
08:34 <Lizz> 99% of ppl on mbc that have same IP are 1 player and a bot
08:35  * Lucifer_arma notes that mbc attracts smegheads like flies to a pile of ...
08:35 <Lizz> shit?
08:35 <spidey> LOL
08:35 <Lizz> every server has its good and bad points.. just as ppl do.. 
08:35 <Lucifer_arma> that's the aborted metaphor.  Makes more sense when I say it, I guess.  It's basically "I'm not really trying to offend..."
08:36 <Lizz> heh
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08:36 <Lizz> u wont offend me luci.. i make allowances for u :P lol
08:36 <spidey> lucifer
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08:36 <spidey> BUG_TRANSPARENCY 0  << setting that  to 1 could it help the mbc wall bugs?
08:36 <Lucifer_arma> speaking of smegheads, WHAT SPIDEY!?!?!?
08:37 <spidey> :/
08:37 <Lucifer_arma> beats me
08:37 <Lizz> plus mbc dosent have many idiots anymore.. most of them have gone to the fort servers lmao
08:37 <Lucifer_arma> heh, too true
08:37 <spidey> so true :/
08:37 <Lizz> ;-)
08:37 <Lucifer_arma> a little trivia you guys might be interested in
08:37 <Lucifer_arma> first time I saw doublegrinding:
08:38 <Lucifer_arma> it was Yaza, on Team Breakfast in Hell, I was the center, he and mom were on my sides
08:38 <Lucifer_arma> true, psyko/zop came up with it independently of yaza, but the move was used waaaay before those guys even played
08:38 <Lizz> lol i have no doubt
08:39 <Lucifer_arma> mom might remember it, we really kicked ass for awhile there because of our speed.  Grinding center is an old tactic even in deathmatch play
08:39 <spidey> mom's away pwning my server O_o
08:40 <Lucifer_arma> heh
08:40 <Lucifer_arma> he still calling himself 7?
08:40 <spidey> yea
08:40  * Lucifer_arma needs to pick a new name now
08:40  * spidey does to
08:40 <Lizz> new ppl will always come up with ideas they think are their own.. but as necessity is the mother of all invention.. chances are the "older" ppl have already crossed that bridge
08:40 <spidey> i think BlAzE got leaked
08:40 <Lucifer_arma> I wanted someone to figure me out when they said "What makes you a humanitarian?" and I said "Well, what's a vegetarian?"
08:40 <spidey> :(
08:40 <Lucifer_arma> no such luck
08:40 <spidey> lol
08:40 <spidey> er
08:41 <spidey> how do i disabled the instant win?
08:41 <Lucifer_arma> killall -9 armagetronad-dedicated ?
08:41 <spidey> hahah
08:41 <Lucifer_arma> you know, ingame help is really nice
08:41 <Vanhayes> best way to come up with a temporary name is #shuffle
08:41  * spidey isn't ingame
08:41 <spidey> xD
08:41 <Lucifer_arma> type part of what you want to see in the console and read all the helpful text it gives you
08:41 <Lucifer_arma> #shuffle
08:41 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: (shuffle <arg> [<arg> ...]) -- Shuffles the arguments given it.
08:41 <Lucifer_arma> #list alias
08:41 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: add, bug, chatlog, digg, dotdotdot, g, gcalc, goodbye, hello, insight, lock, log, log, m, man, message, mfaq, morning, night, q, realchatlogs, remove, unlock, and wikipedia
08:41 <spidey> winzone
08:41 <spidey> [0] Command WINZONE unknown.
08:41 <spidey> :/
08:42 <Lucifer_arma> ah, good.  thought I might have missed one
08:42 <Lucifer_arma> try win_zone
08:42 <Vanhayes> shuffle is a utilitie matbe
08:42 <spidey> ah
08:42 <Lucifer_arma> #help shuffle
08:42 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: (shuffle <arg> [<arg> ...]) -- Shuffles the arguments given it.
08:42 <Vanhayes> #shuffle V a n h a y e s
08:42 <armabot> Vanhayes: y h s a V e a n
08:42 <Lucifer_arma> I want nemo's random name generator thing
08:42 <spidey> mm
08:43 <spidey> i don't see how
08:43 <Lucifer_arma> of course, then I'll forget what name I'm using at any point in time
08:44 <spidey> zone
08:44 <spidey> er
08:44 <Lucifer_arma> haha
08:44  * Lucifer_arma points to the other window
08:44 <spidey> [0] WIN_ZONE_MIN_LAST_DEATH
08:44 <spidey> i could raise that to a really high number
08:45 <spidey> WIN_ZONE_MIN_ROUND_TIME 
08:45 <spidey> actually that one
08:50 <spidey> weird
08:50 <spidey> my ingame clock is off a hour
08:50 <[Xpert]DarkStar> morning
08:51 <spidey> but my clock is right
08:51 <spidey> :/
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08:53 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #morning
08:53 <armabot> Good Morning [Xpert]DarkStar [f]
08:53 <spidey> what's the 2.5 rule?
08:53 <spidey> wall shrink or something
08:55 <Lucifer_arma> something about your locale is fucked up
08:55 <Lucifer_arma> like maybe you set the wrong timezone and then corrected it by hand in your clock applet
08:55 <spidey> locale?
08:55 <spidey> no
08:55 <spidey> i set it to chicago
08:55 <spidey> central time
08:55 <Lucifer_arma> are you in central time?
08:55 <spidey> yes
08:56 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, isn't there something odd about chicago?
08:56 <Lucifer_arma> try changing it to CST6CDT
08:56 <spidey> i can't
08:56 <spidey> only shows country/state
08:57 <spidey> chicago is the only one in central on here
08:57 <Lucifer_arma> according to some website I just looked at, you should be fine
08:57 <Lucifer_arma> you using kde?
08:57 <spidey> yea
08:58 <Lucifer_arma> right-click the clock and chose "show local"
08:58 <Lucifer_arma> timezone->show local timezone
08:58 <spidey> it's a hour off
08:58 <spidey> daylight savings time
08:58 <spidey> er
08:58 <spidey> just a hour off
08:58 <spidey> lol
08:59 <Lucifer_arma> 1:59 right?
08:59 <spidey> it says 2:59
08:59 <spidey> it's 1:59
08:59 <Lucifer_arma> right click the clock and go to adjust date and time :)
08:59 <spidey> lol
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09:00 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5638 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/engine/eTimer.cpp: Of course, this setting doesn't have to be network aware.
09:05 <spidey> gay
09:05 <spidey> i can division in my head
09:05 <spidey> but i can't multiply
09:05 <spidey> well i can
09:05 <spidey> just not in my head
09:05 <spidey> can do*
09:11 <[NP]Tangent> spidey * 2 = 2gay
09:11 <[NP]Tangent> :P
09:11 <spidey> :/
09:11 <spidey> kcacls result fir :/ = Error
09:11 <spidey> kcalcs*
09:12 <spidey> for*
09:12 <spidey> gaaaaaaaaaah
09:13 <spidey> ohhh
09:13 <[NP]Tangent> spidey = error
09:13 <spidey> this will be a math test i WON'T have to write the formulas on my hand
09:14 <spidey> xD
09:14  * spidey slaps [NP]Tangent 
09:14 <[NP]Tangent> :(
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09:14  * [NP]Tangent tells his mommy
09:14  * spidey tells his mommy too
09:14 <spidey> Lizz, [NP]Tangent is abusing me!
09:15 <[NP]Tangent> I was just helping him with his math homework!
09:15 <spidey> lies,all lies
09:15 <[NP]Tangent> sshh
09:15 <[NP]Tangent> I'm compiling LMMS with VST support
09:15 <[NP]Tangent> AND IT HAD BETTER WORK
09:15 <spidey> it won't
09:15 <[NP]Tangent> or I'm not going to be able to use my sytrus sounds any more :(
09:15 <[NP]Tangent> pah
09:15 <[NP]Tangent> what do you know
09:16 <[NP]Tangent> you're spidey
09:16 <spidey> O_o
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09:16 <[NP]Tangent> #insult spidey
09:16 <armabot> spidey - You are nothing but a thick gob of common-kissing toenails. 
09:16  * spidey cries
09:16 <spidey> just for that
09:17 <spidey> i take voodoo doll,and take a pin with "compiling LMMS with VST support won't work" and sticks it
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09:17 <[NP]Tangent> nice going
09:18 <[NP]Tangent> you killed Tard
09:18 <spidey> lol
09:18 <spidey> must have been the wrong doll
09:18 <spidey> :/
09:18 <[NP]Tangent> HOW COULD YOU KILL TARD?
09:20 <spidey> simple
09:20 <spidey> watch
09:20 <spidey> spidey i take voodoo doll,and take a pin with "compiling LMMS with VST support won't work" and sticks it
09:20 <spidey> * SuPeRTaRD-bbl has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
09:22 <[NP]Tangent> maybe
09:22 <[NP]Tangent> I might need to compile this damned SDK
09:22 <[NP]Tangent> >:(
09:22 <spidey> pwned
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09:23 <spidey> omg
09:23 <spidey> http://www.bit-tech.net/modding/2006/07/10/Silent_ContexYZ_by_MisterKholl/12.html
09:23 <spidey> i want
09:23 <spidey> i want i want i want
09:25 <Lucifer_arma> #list alias
09:25 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: #, 42, add, admin, all, answer, armabot, armabot,, armabot\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\:, b, barf, canada, ch, chatlog, clash, digg, eightballs, eliza, f, fe, fluffy, fortune, g, gcalc, goodbye, hello, help, hose, ignoreme, insight, it's, joke, knock, less, lipsum, lock, log, log, lotto, lucifer, lukejr, m, man, mashuffle, message, mfaq, morning, (1 more message)
09:25 <Lucifer_arma> fuck
09:25 <spidey> ?
09:25 <[Xpert]DarkStar> spidey: looks nice
09:25 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #barf
09:25 <armabot> /me throws up all over 
09:26 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, you have to kill supy before editing anything 
09:26 <spidey> or it overwrights when it shuts down
09:27 <Lucifer_arma> or I could make sure when my server reboots it reboots to the gentoo partition instead of the mandrake one
09:27 <spidey> lol
09:28 <Vanhayes_> #insight
09:28 -!- armabot [n=supybot@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
09:28 <Vanhayes_> ....
09:28 <spidey> (02:24:28) john____________________________: Hi center.cen, STEALTHBOMBER V.3 OWNS YOU!! >:)>:)>:)>:)>:)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
09:28 <spidey> wtf
09:28 <spidey> stupid ass yahoo people
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09:29 <Vanhayes_> #night
09:29 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes_!
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09:30 <Lucifer_arma> #list alias
09:30 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: add, bug, chatlog, digg, dotdotdot, g, gcalc, goodbye, hello, insight, lock, log, log, m, man, message, mfaq, morning, night, q, realchatlogs, remove, unlock, and wikipedia
09:30 <Lucifer_arma> now I'll go see if x started
09:36 <Lizz> g2g.. nite guys.. take care :)
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09:42 <[NP]Tangent> #insight
09:43 <[Xpert]DarkStar> wtf
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09:43 <[NP]Tangent> hm
09:43 <[Xpert]DarkStar> where is my "ch" alias gone?
09:43 <[NP]Tangent> someone needs to fix that
09:43 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #ch
09:43 <[NP]Tangent> it kills the bot
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09:44 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #ch
09:44 <[Xpert]DarkStar> >:(
09:47 <Lucifer_arma> I cleaned up the aliases, and I'm not happy about it
09:50 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #print  + 
09:50 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #echo  + 
09:50 <armabot>  + 
09:51 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #alias add ch 'echo  + '
09:51 <armabot> [Xpert]DarkStar: The operation succeeded.
09:51 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #ch
09:51 <[Xpert]DarkStar> -.-
09:51 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #alias ch
09:51 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #alias list
09:51 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #list alias
09:51 <armabot> [Xpert]DarkStar: add, bug, ch, chatlog, digg, dotdotdot, g, gcalc, goodbye, hello, insight, lock, log, log, m, man, message, mfaq, morning, night, q, realchatlogs, remove, unlock, and wikipedia
09:51 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #ch
09:51 <[Xpert]DarkStar> why doesn't it work?
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09:55 <[Xpert]DarkStar> :(
09:55 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #echo  + 
09:55 <armabot>  + 
09:58 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #insight
09:58 <armabot> [Xpert]DarkStar: The broad diminishment of the ozone layer will enslave the entrenchment of our human psyche.
09:58 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #man
09:58 <armabot> [Xpert]DarkStar: (man <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "rss http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/man.php?c=$1&p=@1".
09:58 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #man audacious
09:58 <armabot> [Xpert]DarkStar: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
10:02 <wrtlprnft> did i miss anything?
10:03 <spidey> no
10:03 <wrtlprnft> 06:00 <Lucifer_arma> nag wrtlprnft about it when you see him next :)
10:03 <wrtlprnft> yes i did
10:03 <anjori> you probably missed the biggest thing thats ever happened in this channel
10:03 <[NP]Tangent> HAH SPIDEY
10:03 <[NP]Tangent> MY VST WORKS
10:03 <[NP]Tangent> :P
10:03 <spidey> :<
10:04 <mkzelda> How about an alias that produces "svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad armagetronad"
10:04 <wrtlprnft> omit the final "armagetronad"
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10:05 <wrtlprnft> it's optional, and if you omit it you can name the dir something else
10:05  * anjori can't decide if he wants to bother with ITW
10:05 <mkzelda> right
10:05 <mkzelda> put <dirname>
10:05 <wrtlprnft> #wtf is itw
10:05 <armabot> wrtlprnft: itw: nothing appropriate
10:06 <mkzelda> but i always have to do some googling to find the path
10:06 <anjori> you signed up for it, and you dont know? :P
10:06 <mkzelda> and it'd be nice to have an alias here
10:06 <anjori> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/International_Tron_World_Cup
10:06 <wrtlprnft> mkzelda: uh, i never type the whole thing
10:06 <wrtlprnft> just say ^Rarmagetromad/a
10:07 <wrtlprnft> *armagetronad
10:07 <wrtlprnft> or any path of the command you can remember
10:07 <mkzelda> tron world cup
10:07 <mkzelda> itwc
10:07 <mkzelda> IVTC
10:07 <wrtlprnft> assuming your history is big enough
10:07 <mkzelda> nah, im installing on machines that are fresh
10:07 <mkzelda> no history
10:08 <wrtlprnft> copy over your history
10:08 <wrtlprnft> share your history over NFS!
10:08 <mkzelda> whats the point of that
10:08 <mkzelda> i might as well google it
10:08 <mkzelda> it was a simple request for a bot alias :/
10:08 <mkzelda> that was the whole idea
10:09 <wrtlprnft> then make one
10:09 <mkzelda> a legitimate reason for an alias, one that'd save me some time at least
10:09 <mkzelda> bot doesnt listen to me
10:09 <wrtlprnft> really?
10:09 <wrtlprnft> it ignores you?
10:09 <spidey> maybe it doesn't like zelda?
10:09 <mkzelda> yea, i havent tried it in a while
10:09 <mkzelda> tho
10:09 <mkzelda> maybe it doesnt now
10:09 <mkzelda> #help
10:09 <armabot> mkzelda: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
10:09 <mkzelda> hrm
10:09 <wrtlprnft> there ya go
10:09 <mkzelda> #help alias
10:09 <armabot> mkzelda: Error: There is no command "alias".
10:10 <wrtlprnft>  #alias add aliasname echo whateveryouhave to say
10:10  * spidey goes to look for kde themes
10:10 <mkzelda> what would u remember svn? svnco?
10:10 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #alias add ch echo  + 
10:10 <armabot> [Xpert]DarkStar: The operation succeeded.
10:10 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #ch
10:10 <armabot>  + 
10:10 <[Xpert]DarkStar> :D
10:11 <spidey> lucifer's gonna be mad :p
10:11 <wrtlprnft> mkzelda: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Working_with_SVN
10:11 <mkzelda> #alias add svn svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad <dirname>
10:11 <armabot> mkzelda: The operation succeeded.
10:11 <mkzelda> yea i know that url
10:11 <wrtlprnft> make that a bookmark or something?
10:11 <wrtlprnft> won't work
10:11 <spidey> #svn
10:11 <[NP]Tangent> #alias add s insult spidey
10:11 <wrtlprnft> #alias add svn svn co
10:11 <armabot> [NP]Tangent: The operation succeeded.
10:11 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
10:11 <wrtlprnft> grr
10:11 <[NP]Tangent> #s
10:11 <armabot> spidey - You are nothing but a rump-fed bucket of rude-snouted balls. 
10:11 <mkzelda> what are the limitations
10:12 <Lucifer_arma> you guys are going to clean up after yourselves, right?
10:12 <spidey> heh
10:12 <mkzelda> i was trying to add a useful one
10:12 <[NP]Tangent> dunno how
10:12 <wrtlprnft> #alias add svn echo svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad <dirname>
10:12 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
10:12 <wrtlprnft> #svn
10:12 <armabot> svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad <dirname>
10:12 <[NP]Tangent> I was trying to replace the one that was there a couple weeks ago
10:12 <Lucifer_arma> I cleaned up quite a few aliases that were obviously failed attempts that whoever created didn't bother to remove
10:12  * wrtlprnft is just correcting mkzelda's alais now
10:12 <mkzelda> ty
10:13 <wrtlprnft> #alias add svn echo svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad <dirname> (more information: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Working_with_SVN)
10:13 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
10:13 <wrtlprnft> #svn
10:13 <armabot> svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad <dirname> (more information: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Working_with_SVN)
10:13 <spidey> #list alias
10:13 <armabot> spidey: add, bug, ch, chatlog, digg, dotdotdot, g, gcalc, goodbye, hello, insight, lock, log, log, m, man, message, mfaq, morning, night, q, realchatlogs, remove, s, svn, unlock, and wikipedia
10:13 <wrtlprnft> #help mfaq
10:13 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (mfaq <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo set CYCLE_DELAY above 0 to avoid bikes jumping to the wrong side of trails when doubling back on trails".
10:13 <Lucifer_arma> #help s
10:13 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: (s <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "insult spidey".
10:13 <Lucifer_arma> #remove s
10:13 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: The command "remove" is available in the Alias, Herald, News, Praise, Quote, and RSS plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "remove".
10:13 <Lucifer_arma> #alias remove s
10:13 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
10:14 <spidey> pwned
10:14 <wrtlprnft> #insult spidey 
10:14 <mkzelda> on lagfarm sumo i had some interesting lag
10:14 <armabot> spidey - You are nothing but a tottering ass-full of despicable pods. 
10:14 <mkzelda> was going like 3x speed
10:14 <Lucifer_arma> #last --with add s
10:14 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must (1 more message)
10:14 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: "add s"
10:14 <Lucifer_arma> #last --with "add s"
10:14 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: [03:14:34] <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: "add s"
10:14 <mkzelda> others saw it as me jumping across the grid but i saw it as driving 3 times the usual speed
10:14 <Lucifer_arma> jerk
10:14 <spidey> lol
10:14 <mkzelda> it lasted a whole round one time
10:14 <wrtlprnft> haha
10:14 <Lucifer_arma> #last --with "alias add s"
10:14 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: [03:13:22] <wrtlprnft> #alias add svn echo svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad <dirname> (more information: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Working_with_SVN)
10:14 <spidey> #last --from [NP]Tangent --with add s
10:14 <armabot> spidey: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; (1 more message)
10:14 <wrtlprnft> pwnt
10:15 <spidey> #last --from [NP]Tangent --with "add s"
10:15 <armabot> spidey: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; (1 more message)
10:15 <spidey> #last --from "[NP]Tangent" --with "add s"
10:15 <armabot> spidey: [03:11:45] <[NP]Tangent> #alias add s insult spidey
10:15 <spidey> :p
10:15 <mkzelda> ty, thats good help :)
10:15 <Lucifer_arma> #help ignore
10:15 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: (ignore requires no arguments) -- Does nothing. Useful sometimes for sequencing commands when you don't care about their non-error return values.
10:15 <Lucifer_arma> #help admin ignore
10:15 <wrtlprnft> #ignore
10:15 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: There is no command "admin ignore".
10:16 <Lucifer_arma> #help owner ignore
10:16 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: There is no command "owner ignore".
10:16 <Lucifer_arma> #owner help ignore
10:16 <spidey> lol
10:16 <Lucifer_arma> #ignore
10:16 <wrtlprnft> #list owner
10:16 <armabot> wrtlprnft: announce, defaultcapability, defaultplugin, disable, enable, flush, ircquote, load, log, quit, reload, rename, unload, unrename, and upkeep
10:16 <Lucifer_arma> did I just make it ignore me?
10:16 <wrtlprnft> no
10:16 <spidey> lmao
10:16 <Lucifer_arma> #list owner
10:16 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: announce, defaultcapability, defaultplugin, disable, enable, flush, ircquote, load, log, quit, reload, rename, unload, unrename, and upkeep
10:16 <Lucifer_arma> #list channel
10:16 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: alert, ban add, ban list, ban remove, capability add, capability list, capability remove, capability set, capability setdefault, capability unset, cycle, dehalfop, deop, devoice, disable, enable, halfop, ignore add, ignore list, ignore remove, invite, kban, key, kick, limit, lobotomy add, lobotomy list, lobotomy remove, mode, moderate, nicks, op, unban, unmoderate, and voice
10:16 <wrtlprnft> #list user
10:16 <armabot> wrtlprnft: capabilities, changename, hostmask, hostmask add, hostmask list, hostmask remove, identify, list, register, set password, set secure, stats, unidentify, unregister, username, and whoami
10:16 <Lucifer_arma> #ignore add
10:16 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: The command "ignore add" is available in the Admin and Channel plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "ignore add".
10:16 <Lucifer_arma> #channel ignore add
10:17 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
10:17 <wrtlprnft> admin :D
10:17 <Lucifer_arma> #whoami
10:17 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: I don't recognize you.
10:17 <spidey> lol
10:17 <Lucifer_arma> #whoami
10:17 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Lucifer_arma
10:17 <wrtlprnft> what a traitor of bot
10:17 <Lucifer_arma> #channel ignore add
10:17 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: (channel ignore add [<channel>] <nick|hostmask> [<expires>]) -- If you have the #channel,op capability, this will set a persistent ignore on <hostmask> or the hostmask currently associated with <nick>. <expires> is an optional argument specifying when (in "seconds from now") the ignore will expire; if it isn't given, the ignore will never automatically expire. <channel> is only (1 more message)
10:17 <wrtlprnft> not channel!
10:17 <Lucifer_arma> why not channel?
10:18 <wrtlprnft> channel is a totally useless plugin if the bot isn't an operator
10:18 <Lucifer_arma> ahhhh, right
10:18 <wrtlprnft> you need admin
10:18 <Lucifer_arma> #admin ignore add
10:18 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: (admin ignore add <hostmask|nick> [<expires>]) -- Ignores <hostmask> or, if a nick is given, ignores whatever hostmask that nick is currently using. <expires> is a "seconds from now" value that determines when the ignore will expire; if, for instance, you wish for the ignore to expire in an hour, you could give an <expires> of 3600. If no <expires> is given, the ignore will never (1 more message)
10:18 <wrtlprnft> #more Lucifer_arma 
10:18 <armabot> wrtlprnft: automatically expire.
10:19 <wrtlprnft> #admin ignore list
10:19 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
10:19 <wrtlprnft> gah
10:19 <Lucifer_arma> #g 24*60*60
10:19 <armabot> 24 * 60 * 60 = 86,400
10:19 <Lucifer_arma> #admin ignore add n=hyperdev@71-211-201-61.hlrn.qwest.net 86400
10:19 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: 'n=hyperdev@71-211-201-61.hlrn.qwest.net' is not a valid nick or hostmask.
10:19 <Lucifer_arma> is too
10:19 <wrtlprnft> just use [NP]Tangent 
10:19 <Lucifer_arma> #admin ignore add hyperdev@71-211-201-61.hlrn.qwest.net 86400
10:19 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: 'hyperdev@71-211-201-61.hlrn.qwest.net' is not a valid nick or hostmask.
10:19 <spidey> lucifer
10:19 <Lucifer_arma> #admin ignore add [NP]Tangent  86400
10:19 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: '[NP]' is not a valid nick or hostmask.
10:19 <wrtlprnft> if a nick is given, ignores whatever hostmask that nick is currently using
10:19 <Lucifer_arma> #admin ignore add "[NP]Tangent"  86400
10:19 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
10:19 <spidey> omg
10:19 <spidey> stop
10:19 <spidey> wait
10:20 <spidey> shhh
10:20 <spidey> ok
10:20 <spidey> do this
10:20 <Lucifer_arma> I just told him just a few minutes before that not to go and add a bunch of useless aliases
10:20 <wrtlprnft> #help ignoreme
10:20 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: There is no command "ignoreme".
10:20 <spidey>    #admin ignore add *@71-211-201-61.hlrn.qwest.net 86400
10:20 <spidey> there
10:20 <spidey> or
10:20  * wrtlprnft doesn't think [NP]Tangent will try to trick the bot
10:20 <spidey>    #admin ignore add *!*@71-211-201-61.hlrn.qwest.net 86400
10:21 <spidey> there it is :p
10:21 <wrtlprnft> it's just you, spidey, who doesn't get the message
10:21 <spidey> what?
10:21 <spidey> i don't even make alias's for the thing
10:21 <wrtlprnft> no
10:21 <spidey> WRTLPRNFT
10:21 <wrtlprnft> but you try to get around being ignored
10:21 <spidey> :)
10:21 <spidey> ugh
10:21 <spidey> no i didn't
10:21 <wrtlprnft> I don't think [NP]Tangent will change his username
10:21 <spidey> i really don't care
10:21 <spidey> i only used it for math
10:22 <wrtlprnft> i mean, you TRIED
10:22 <spidey> .......
10:22 <wrtlprnft> and renamed yourself, changed your IP, etc
10:22 <spidey> get ya shit straight
10:22 <spidey> if i wanted to
10:22 <spidey> i could
10:22 <spidey> and no i didn't change my ip just for getting around the bot
10:22 <spidey> tyvm
10:22 <wrtlprnft> the emphasis is on trieD
10:22 <spidey> luci ignore .charter foo
10:22 <wrtlprnft> or around Lucifer_arma's attempt to silence you
10:23 <spidey> even if i changed my ip
10:23 <spidey> it doesn't count
10:23 <mkzelda> lol, why dont u 2 get married
10:23 <[NP]Tangent> Lucifer
10:23 <wrtlprnft> #whoisshe wrtlprnft 
10:23 <Lucifer_arma> not as in "tried and failed", as in "persisted"
10:23 <wrtlprnft> whoisshe was fun :S
10:23 <[NP]Tangent> you didn't say anything about useless aliases before I did it
10:24 <mkzelda> <Lucifer_arma> look, no more of these useless aliases, ok?
10:24 <mkzelda> <Lucifer_arma> if it gets out of hand again, I'm just going to disable the aliases plugin
10:24  * wrtlprnft feels bad about helping Lucifer_arma with the silence command :s
10:24  * wrtlprnft hides from [NP]Tangent 
10:24  * wrtlprnft hides behind spidey 
10:24  * spidey grabs wrtlprnft and holds him infront of [NP]Tangent 
10:25 <Lucifer_arma> [03:11] <[NP]Tangent> #alias add s insult spidey
10:25 <Lucifer_arma> [02:53] <Lucifer_arma> look, no more of these useless aliases, ok?
10:25 <Lucifer_arma> [02:54] <Lucifer_arma> if it gets out of hand again, I'm just going to disable the aliases plugin
10:25 <mkzelda> i wish xchat would let you copy timestamps
10:25 <wrtlprnft> timestamps are annoying sometimes
10:25 <mkzelda> yea
10:25 <mkzelda> i could see how it'd be a nice feature
10:26 <Lucifer_arma> timestamps were an important part of those copies :)
10:26 <mkzelda> but most of my copy/pasting is something like this
10:26 <wrtlprnft> especially since they don't say a lot if you don't know the timezone
10:26 <mkzelda> it didnt matter about timezone, only relative
10:26 <mkzelda> it said all it needed to in that scenario
10:27 <mkzelda> oh wrtlprnft the new font puts the menu item descriptions off the edge of the screen
10:27 <[NP]Tangent> Lucifer, I didn't see that anywhere
10:27 <[NP]Tangent> so my bad
10:27 <wrtlprnft> you mean those help things?
10:27 <mkzelda> yea
10:27 <wrtlprnft> mkzelda: do you have an example one?
10:27 <wrtlprnft> because i think i made them wrap
10:27 <mkzelda> yea the tip for FLUSH
10:28 <wrtlprnft> let me check
10:28 <mkzelda> FINISH actually
10:28 <Lucifer_arma> > [02:43] <[Xpert]DarkStar> where is my "ch" alias gone?
10:28 <Lucifer_arma> > [02:43] <[NP]Tangent> someone needs to fix that
10:28 <Lucifer_arma> > [02:43] <[Xpert]DarkStar> #ch
10:28 <Lucifer_arma> > [02:43] <[NP]Tangent> it kills the bot
10:28 <Lucifer_arma> > [02:44] <[Xpert]DarkStar> #ch
10:28 <Lucifer_arma> > [02:44] <[Xpert]DarkStar> >:(
10:28 <Lucifer_arma> > [02:48] <Lucifer_arma> I cleaned up the aliases, and I'm not happy about it
10:28 <Lucifer_arma> konversation is soooo cool
10:29 <mkzelda> Swap Mode: Finish
10:29 <Lucifer_arma> I realize a lot can happen in 5 minutes, but this isn't anything new, sorry
10:29 <wrtlprnft> mkzelda: yeah, i see
10:30 <wrtlprnft> but i dunno how to fix it. for example, it doesn't happen with FONT_FILE font.ttf
10:30 <mkzelda> i didnt investigate further to see if other things did it
10:30 <mkzelda> i just happened to notice that
10:30 <mkzelda> and quit looking
10:32 <spidey> mmm
10:32 <wrtlprnft> hard to fix right now, I'd like to let that wait until we have real text boxes
10:33 <wrtlprnft> because any fix right now would mean we'd have to wrap the text twice per frame
10:33 <wrtlprnft> which is expensive with proportional fonts
10:34 <spidey> :(
10:34 <spidey> i wish i was better at adding and multiplying :/
10:44 <mkzelda> sheesh, paypal takes 9% of all tansactions now
10:44 <spidey> O_o
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10:47 <anjori> 9%? wow.
10:49 <mkzelda> yea i remember when it didnt cost at all
10:51  * wrtlprnft remembers when you didn't need a credit card for everything
10:54  * anjori remembers how viable free long distance and free web space was ;)
10:55 <anjori> those were the days
10:55  * mkzelda remembers when atari 2600 was the hotness
10:55  * wrtlprnft has 90GB free webspace
10:56 <mkzelda> o crap its 5am
10:56 <wrtlprnft> eastern time?
10:56 <mkzelda> yea
10:56 <mkzelda> i can get 4 hrs sleep
10:57 <mkzelda> later
10:57 <wrtlprnft> 11AM here
10:57 <wrtlprnft> night
10:57 <anjori> thats what i keep telling myself, too. but i'm skeptical
10:57 <anjori> wrtlprnft: thought youre in canada?
10:57 <wrtlprnft> i was
10:57 <wrtlprnft> for 10 months, but I'm back now
10:57 <wrtlprnft> in germany
10:58 <anjori> ah, okay.  cause you put you name up for canada on the tron world cup page, and confused me further
10:58 <wrtlprnft> germany has more than enough players
10:58 <anjori> that's true.
11:01 <anjori> there was this girl over here studying from germany at the place i was volunteering at. and i had to bring up a book i read that took place over there and was translated to english because thats the only way i could relate to anything german, and i'm a huge lame-o :)
11:03 <spidey> haha
11:04 <spidey> is psyko playing in the iwt?
11:04 <spidey> actually what's the url?
11:04 <wrtlprnft> he is i think
11:04 <anjori> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/International_Tron_World_Cup
11:06 <spidey> can i play for canada? ;D
11:06  * spidey won't play on psyko's team if he doens't have to
11:06 <wrtlprnft> ask vanhayes
11:08 <anjori> pfft. isnt the whole point of a world tournament that you play for your country? :P
11:09 <spidey> your? i only live here
11:09  * spidey would rather live somewhere in the north
11:09 <spidey> i love cold weather
11:09 <wrtlprnft> it's blazing hot in winnipeg right now
11:10 <anjori> but you're in germany!
11:10  * anjori used to live in winnipeg
11:10 <wrtlprnft> well, not right now
11:10 <spidey> kcalc answer for "lol" = error
11:10 <wrtlprnft> 17 degrees
11:10 <wrtlprnft> #g lol
11:10 <armabot> Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
11:11 <spidey> i ment to type lol in here
11:11 <spidey> and i entered it in kcalc
11:11 <spidey> lol
11:11 <anjori> but were you actually laughing out loud?
11:12 <anjori> i have a hard time imagining that people are actually laughing audibly every time someone dies in tron
11:12 <spidey> actually
11:12 <spidey> i do
11:12 <spidey> xD
11:12 <spidey> only when i type lol though
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11:17  * Lucifer_arma remembers enjoying Tron in the theater
11:18 <spidey> i seen that movie
11:19 <Lucifer_arma> I usually read lol as "likes orange lollipops"
11:19 <Lucifer_arma> 'night
11:19 <anjori> did you saw it, too?
11:19 <anjori> g'night, luci.
11:20 <spidey>                                       sleep's for slackers!                         
11:21 <anjori> sleep for weaks!
11:23 <wrtlprnft> heh, i like that one
11:24 <spidey> lol
11:24 <wrtlprnft> not to confuse with "sleep for weeks"
11:26 <anjori> grr. if xchat can flash the taskbar entry on a highlighted word, why the hell cant it do it when something is said, period?
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12:34 <cusco> #alias add pt echo _o__
12:34 <armabot> cusco: The operation succeeded.
12:34 <cusco> lol
12:34 <cusco> #pt
12:34 <armabot> _o__
12:54 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma will be happy
13:00 <cusco> I was reading backwards
13:00 <cusco> and I saw the ch
13:00 <cusco> :P
13:01 <wrtlprnft> yeah, and [NP]Tangent got ignored by armabot for that
13:01 <wrtlprnft> read further
13:01 <cusco> oops
13:01 <wrtlprnft> #alias remove pt
13:01 <wrtlprnft> ;)
13:01 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
13:02 <cusco> oki dooki
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13:07 <cusco> madmax|pt: madmax|pt madmax|pt madmax|pt 
13:10 <madmax|pt> o_O
13:10 <madmax|pt> hello
13:14 <spidey> o_0
13:20 <spidey> "Thou who hast beenth core dumpth shall be considerth 'pwned'." ---Durka (I just made that up right now) 
13:20 <spidey> lol
13:20  * spidey is suprised he didn't write it in color
13:20 <spidey> xD
13:26 <wrtlprnft> ��rain stopped using colors :)
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14:11 <madmax|pt> i particularly find funny those "def down" instants that look more like a party invitation
14:12 <cusco> lol
14:13 <cusco> colours are good to make you notice
14:13 <wrtlprnft> the only thing thats colored for mine is the s
14:14 <cusco> the s?
14:15 <madmax|pt> yes, i use colors in def down too, but not five or six
14:16 <cusco> heheheh
14:16 <cusco> eu so uso uma
14:16 <cusco> :P
14:17 <cusco> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/5164450.stm
14:17 <cusco> ms shuts down win98
14:24 <wrtlprnft> long time ago they did
14:24 <madmax|pt> From 11 July, Microsoft will no longer help users over the phone with any problems they have with the ageing operating system.
14:24 <madmax|pt> The firm will also stop providing security updates for Windows 98 from the same date. 
14:24 <wrtlprnft> or they planned that date
14:25 <wrtlprnft> sorry, the pc of my parents is so lame and openoffice is too resource hungry, as is anything >win98
14:25 <@guru3> YES
14:25 <@guru3> :D :D :D :D
14:26 -!- mode/#armagetron [+vvv mkzelda cusco GodTodd] by guru3
14:26 -!- mode/#armagetron [+vvv armabot Lucifer_arma wejp] by guru3
14:26 -!- mode/#armagetron [+vvv wrtlprnft madmax|pt [Xpert]DarkStar] by guru3
14:26 -!- mode/#armagetron [+vvv spidey [NP]Tangent SuPeRTaRD] by guru3
14:26 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v deja_vu_] by guru3
14:26 <@guru3> voices for everyone in celebration :D
14:27 <+wrtlprnft> o_O
14:27 <+wrtlprnft> grats
14:28 <+wrtlprnft> cusco: that article somehow repeats itself
14:29 <+wrtlprnft> cusco: did i tell you already that article repeats itself?
14:29 <+wrtlprnft> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/5164450.stm <-- an article that repeats itself
14:30 <@guru3> let's screw with ms
14:30 <@guru3> and all install windows 98
14:30 <+wrtlprnft> no way I'm installing "a more secure operating system such as Windows XP"
14:32 <+wrtlprnft> why does my dad still have to deal with those darn .doc files? Otherwise I'd just put some sort of linux on it
14:32 <@guru3> what i'm considering doing
14:32 <@guru3> is one time when my parents are out
14:32 <@guru3> installing linux
14:32 <@guru3> and pointing vmware at the windows partition
14:32 <@guru3> then running it full screen
14:32 <+cusco> wrtlprnft: no you didn't
14:32 <@guru3> so it still looks like they are running linux >:D
14:33 <+wrtlprnft> uh, that makes no sense, really
14:33 <@guru3> hahaha
14:33 <@guru3> maybe not
14:33 <@guru3> but oh well
14:34 <+wrtlprnft> anyone forcing others to use .doc files should be shot
14:34 <+wrtlprnft> we have .odt
14:36 <+wrtlprnft> the trouble is that my dad still thinks ms-office is "professional" software and anything else must be crap
14:44 <@guru3> well there is that nice adobe authoring plugin for ms office
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15:48 <+wrtlprnft> there are those nice free plugins for ms-office that always display interesting information on how to get penis enlargements, you don't even need to install them yourself
15:51 <[Xpert]DarkStar> anyone know how to get a hp colorlaserjet 1600 working with linux?
15:52 <+wrtlprnft> #google hp colorlaserjet 1600 linux
15:52 <+armabot> wrtlprnft: Search took 0.85 seconds: Printers - ZDNet Reviews: <http://reviews-zdnet.com.com/4566-3155_16-0.html>; Printers - CNET Reviews: <http://reviews.cnet.com/4566-3155_7-0.html?sa=500428>; Printers - CNET Reviews: <http://reviews.cnet.com/4566-3155_7-0.html>; foo2hp: a linux printer driver for ZJS protocol (eg HP Color ...: <http://foo2hp.rkkda.com/>; LinuxPrinting.org HP Color (2 more messages)
15:53 <[Xpert]DarkStar> that driver listed there
15:53 <[Xpert]DarkStar> is not working for me
15:53 <[Xpert]DarkStar> or rather: the printer is not responding and i have no clue why
15:53 <+wrtlprnft> <stupidquestion>Is it plugged in?</stupidquestion>
15:55 <[Xpert]DarkStar> /bin/sh: /sbin/lsusb: No such file or directory
15:55 <[Xpert]DarkStar> oops
15:55 <[Xpert]DarkStar> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 03f0:3a17 Hewlett-Packard 
15:55 <[Xpert]DarkStar> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000  
15:56 <[Xpert]DarkStar> no it's not ;)
16:00 <[Xpert]DarkStar> any other ideas?
16:00 <+wrtlprnft> uh, no :(
16:02 <[Xpert]DarkStar> wonderful
16:02 <[Xpert]DarkStar> can't stop cups anymore
16:06 <+wrtlprnft> killall -9 cups
16:13 <[Xpert]DarkStar> could stop it the normal way too
16:13 <[Xpert]DarkStar> and restart
16:13 <[Xpert]DarkStar> and still no work
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16:49 <+luke-jr_> guru3: wtf?
16:50 <+luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: why not flat out tell him he's wrong about Office?
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17:01 <@guru3> luke-jr_: he's not
17:01 <@guru3> it's just the adobe bit
17:01 <@guru3> is kind of useful
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17:27 <+spidey> goddamn
17:27 <+spidey> fucking 45 minutes
17:27 <+spidey> i gotta get up NOW and sit here untill then
17:27 <+spidey> fuckin old people :/
17:31 <+madmax|pt> huh?
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17:49 <+spidey> i was planning to stop smoking today
17:50 <+spidey> but after the way this morning started i threw that out
18:04 <+[NP]Tangent> what happened, spidey?
18:05 <+luke-jr_> ...
18:05 <+[NP]Tangent> oh
18:05  * [NP]Tangent looks up
18:05 <+spidey> turns out
18:05 <+spidey> wasn't 45 minutes
18:05 <+spidey> it's 2 hours early
18:05 <+spidey> just to take a shower
18:05 <+spidey> who takes a 2 hour shower!?!?!?!?!!??!
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18:48 <luke-jr_> if anyone says voip can't do fax
18:48 <luke-jr_> tell em bs
18:48 <luke-jr_> =p
18:49  * luke-jr_ just received 2 pages and sent 4
18:52 <+wrtlprnft> wtf is the point of that?
18:52 <luke-jr_> ?
18:52 <luke-jr_> sending faxes
18:52 <luke-jr_> =p
18:53 <+wrtlprnft> you're digitalizing something just to make it analog again, then you digitalize the voice again, compress it, make it sound again, make it digital and print it
18:55 <luke-jr_> lol
18:55 <luke-jr_> you have a better way to send a fax? =p
18:55 <luke-jr_> for about 1 penny
18:55 <+wrtlprnft> even better if you printed the thing out before
18:56 <luke-jr_> lol
18:56 <+wrtlprnft> and the thing you printed out is a scanned-in picture from an analog camera
18:56 <luke-jr_> does WalMart digitization count?
18:56 <+wrtlprnft> and the photo is of a screen showing another image you got by the same method
18:57 <luke-jr_> =p
18:57 <luke-jr_> anyway, no
18:57 <luke-jr_> just faxing back something they faxed me
18:57 <luke-jr_> filled out
19:00 <+wrtlprnft> what's your phone number? I wanna fax you some black paper
19:01 <luke-jr_> no thx
19:01 <luke-jr_> besides, you have my #
19:01 <luke-jr_> i've posted it here
19:01 <luke-jr_> so it's in your logs
19:01 <+wrtlprnft> or even better, an infinite loop of black paper
19:01  * wrtlprnft won't bother looking since he has no fax
19:01 <luke-jr_> lol
19:02 <luke-jr_> my fax machine isn't connected to the line right now anyhow
19:03 <luke-jr_> I've got a few #s
19:03 <luke-jr_> Kansas City, Omaha, and Atchison,KS
19:03 <luke-jr_> and an 800#, but that's for a client
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20:22 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
20:22 <+armabot> Vanhayes: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
20:50 <+Lucifer_arma> guru3: CONGRATULATIONS!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
20:56 <+wrtlprnft> gah, z-man didn't merge 0.2.8 yet :S
20:57 <+wrtlprnft> and the new xorg seems to be quite a bit slower than the old one
20:57 <+Lucifer_arma> #addhandler
20:57 <+armabot> Lucifer_arma: (addhandler <channel> <shortname> <searchstring> <actiontype> <action>) -- Adds a new handler for commit messages. Actiontype specifies what type of action to do. Currently only "echo" and "cmd" are supported.
20:57  * wrtlprnft considers masking >=xorg-7
20:57 <+Lucifer_arma> #addhandler commitnotifier armagetronad echo $message
20:57 <+armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
20:58 <+Lucifer_arma> #listhandlers
20:58 <+armabot> Lucifer_arma: commitnotifier
20:58 <+wrtlprnft> err
20:58 <+wrtlprnft> shouldn't there be more?
20:58 <+Lucifer_arma> it's not saving them for some reason
20:58 <+Lucifer_arma> yeah, there's supposed to be at least two more
21:00 <+wrtlprnft> is there actually any code that saves them?
21:03 -!- madmax|pt [n=madmax@bl5-9-151.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit ["Leaving"]
21:07 <+spidey|away> grrrrrrrr
21:08 <+spidey|away> i have a hatred for people,i swear
21:08 <+wrtlprnft> grrrrrrRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrRrRrRrrrrr
21:08 <+spidey|away> wrtlprnft, included
21:08 -!- spidey|away is now known as spidey
21:09 <+wrtlprnft> a compliment if it comes from you
21:10  * wrtlprnft wonders if McSpiddles is included
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21:10 <spidey> says so in the host name :>
21:11 <+wrtlprnft> so?
21:11 <spidey> reminds me
21:11  * spidey  is getting a vhost O_o
21:11  * wrtlprnft doesn't see a reason to hide his hostname, everyone can find it out using wrtlprnft.ath.cx
21:11 <spidey> so
21:12 <spidey> everyone can find out using spidey.no-ip.org
21:12 <spidey> i don't wanna hide it
21:12 <spidey> consider it advertisment
21:13 <+wrtlprnft> isn't that what quit messages are for?
21:14 <spidey> yea
21:16  * wrtlprnft hates clients that put ads in quit messages
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21:16 -!- Irssi: #armagetron: Total of 17 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 9 voices, 7 normal]
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21:16 <spidey> just edit the .ini
21:16 <spidey> just edit the .ini
21:16 -!- Irssi: Join to #armagetron was synced in 11 secs
--- Log closed Tue Jul 11 21:16:17 2006
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21:16 <spidey> change the quit message to whatever
21:16 <spidey> oh,linux
21:16 <spidey> well....edit the whatever file
21:16 <+wrtlprnft> ?
21:16 <spidey> on windows most irc clients have a .ini
21:16 <spidey> you can change settings in it
21:16 <+wrtlprnft> great
21:16 <spidey> not sure about linux
21:17 <+wrtlprnft> irssi has /set
21:17 <+wrtlprnft> and a config file where the stuff is saved
21:17 <+wrtlprnft> who even knows about the quit message his client leaves?
21:17 <spidey> noone
21:17 <+wrtlprnft> it's like having some ad printed on your back that everyone sees but you
21:17 <spidey> unless they use 2 clients
21:17 <spidey> :>
21:18 <+wrtlprnft> that's what i just checked with wrtlprnft_
21:18 <+wrtlprnft> 21:18 quit_message = wussed out and left
21:18 <+wrtlprnft> ah, that's the default for my clien
21:18 <+wrtlprnft> t
21:19 <+wrtlprnft> at least not something like "IRSSI! The great IRC client of the future! Use it! Haha to the noob who didn't change this message"
21:19 <spidey> lol
21:23 <+Lucifer_arma> can I send someone an email?
21:23 <spidey> spidey.owns@yahoo.com
21:23 <+Lucifer_arma> someone give me an email address they can check
21:23 <+Lucifer_arma> thanks, email sent
21:23 <spidey> sec
21:23 <+Lucifer_arma> hopefully it won't bounce off a spam filter
21:24 <spidey> nope
21:24 <spidey> come straight in
21:24 <spidey> came*
21:24 <+Lucifer_arma> ok, thanks.  :)
21:24 <spidey> wow
21:24 <spidey> i got 31 bulk emails
21:25 <spidey> better than when i did acron job with the wrong directory
21:25 <spidey> fuckin 4k emails
21:25 <+Lucifer_arma> heh
21:25 <spidey> do not have it email you if you do a cron job every 10 minutes
21:26 <spidey> you'll get flooded
21:26 <spidey> lol
21:26 <+Lucifer_arma> no shit.  I had one back when I had a 5 minute cronjob that rotated the maps on my server
21:26 <spidey> heh
21:26 <spidey> i forgot what i was doing
21:26 <spidey> ohhhh
21:27 <spidey> a arma server on one of my old host's
21:28  * spidey considers starting a reseller hosting thing
21:30  * Lucifer_arma suggests you all talk to antix before you go rent a dedicated server and try to sell hosting on it
21:30 <spidey> ?
21:30 <spidey> i know where i can get one for $40 a month
21:30 <spidey> plus someone who would go in half
21:31 <spidey> he used to sell hosting
21:31 <spidey> so between us 2 it'd be pretty much covered O_o
21:31 <+wrtlprnft> if there wasn't all that legal crap i would go and rent arma servers
21:32 <spidey> mmm?
21:32 <+wrtlprnft> err, not rent
21:32 <+wrtlprnft> other way
21:33 <spidey> we bought groceries today,so i'ma make a pizza
21:33 <spidey> brb
21:33 <+wrtlprnft> "make a pizza" = throw one in the oven/microwave?
21:37 <spidey> oven
21:37 <+wrtlprnft> ...
21:38 <+Lucifer_arma> man, make a pizza around here starts with "do we have any whole wheat flour?"
21:38 <+Lucifer_arma> (which we do :) )
21:38 <spidey> hahah
21:39 <+wrtlprnft> same
21:40 <+wrtlprnft> though we don't usually use whole wheat flour, only if someone screwed up and the normal one is missing
21:40 <+wrtlprnft> *empty
21:40  * Lucifer_arma makes somewhere around 90% of his food from scratch
21:40 <+wrtlprnft> ie you go out and grow the wheat?
21:40 <+Lucifer_arma> hmmm, we don't actually use whole wheat flour most of the time, but I like it that way
21:40 <+Lucifer_arma> no, we use flour and dried noodles and stuff
21:40 <+cusco> I don't cook much
21:40 <+cusco> but my mother does microbiotics
21:40 <+Lucifer_arma> i.e. we don't eat packaged food much
21:40 <+cusco> macrobiotics
21:40 <+wrtlprnft> no packaged dry noodles?
21:41 <+Lucifer_arma> quit nitpicking
21:41 <+wrtlprnft> but i love nitpicking ;)
21:41 <spidey> haha
21:41 <+Lucifer_arma> hmmm, I wonder how my breakfast burritos would taste if I used my brother's flour tortilla recipe on them
21:42 <spidey> good 
21:42 <spidey> this will be perfect
21:42 <spidey> i can call my isp and complain WHILE my connection sucks due to rain
21:42 <spidey> and bitch with proof
21:43 <spidey> but i bet money they try to say it's because i'm using linux
21:43 <spidey> bah
21:43 <spidey> last time they tried to say it was the router
21:43 <spidey> i unplugged it...it still sucked
21:43 <+Lucifer_arma> sometimes I wish I could be 16 again, but spidey makes me think twice of that idea
21:43 <+wrtlprnft> why don't you call whoever is responsible for the rain?
21:43 <spidey> :/
21:43 <spidey> wrtlprnft, got natures number?
21:44 <+wrtlprnft> eliminate the cause, not the symptoms
21:44 <+wrtlprnft> spidey: yes, it is engraved
21:44 <+wrtlprnft> err, sec
21:44 <+Lucifer_arma> and the wontons we've been eating are made mostly from scratch.  I didn't grow the pig or the spinach, or the soy beans, or make the skins.
21:44 <+Lucifer_arma> but I have a recipe for the skins
21:45 <spidey> wontons?
21:45 <+Lucifer_arma> yes, wontons
21:45 <Vanhayes> #dict wonton
21:45 <+armabot> Vanhayes: wn: wonton n 1: a Chinese dumpling filled with spiced minced pork; usually served in soup [syn: {won ton}] 2: a soup with won ton dumplings [syn: {won ton}, {wonton soup}]
21:45 <+Lucifer_arma> chinese pastry
21:45 <+Lucifer_arma> there you go, that's a wonton :)
21:46 <+Lucifer_arma> only I've been deep-frying mine
21:47 <spidey> heh
21:47 <+wrtlprnft> spidey: It is written in 10-metre high letters of fire on top of the Quentulus Quazgar Mountains in the land of Sevorbeupstry on the planet Preliumtarn, third out from the sun Zarss in Galactic Sector QQ7 ActiveJ Gamma. It is guarded by the Lajestic Vantrashell of Lob.
21:47 <spidey> will you go get it for me?
21:47 <+wrtlprnft> sorry, haven't been there yet
21:48 <+wrtlprnft> if someone tells me what i canged from the original quote they'll get a coocie
21:48 <+wrtlprnft> *cookie
21:48 <+wrtlprnft> *changed
21:48 <spidey> metre
21:48 <+Lucifer_arma> you misspelled meter?
21:48 <spidey> of course
21:48 <spidey> LOL
21:48 <+wrtlprnft> the original says 30 feet
21:48 <Vanhayes> #dict metre
21:48 <+armabot> Vanhayes: wn, bouvier, gcide, and foldoc responded: gcide: Metre \Me"tre\ (m[=e]"t[~e]r), n. See {Meter}. [1913 Webster]; wn: metre n 1: the basic unit of length adopted under the Systeme International d'Unites (approximately 1.094 yards) [syn: {meter}, {m}] 2: (prosody) the accent in a metrical foot of verse [syn: {meter}, {measure}, {beat}, {cadence}] 3: rhythm as given by division (8 more messages)
21:49 <Vanhayes> heh
21:49 <+wrtlprnft> but since feet suck...
21:49 <spidey> i would say something
21:49 <spidey> but i won't
21:49 <+Lucifer_arma> I think wrtlprnft walks on meters, he puts his socks and shoes on his meters
21:49 <+wrtlprnft> spidey: never sucked your feet
21:49 <+wrtlprnft> ?
21:50 <+Lucifer_arma> the advantage to using feet is that most adult males can measure distances quite easily
21:50 <+wrtlprnft> ?
21:50 <+Lucifer_arma> most adult females can, too
21:50 <+wrtlprnft> i won
21:50 <spidey> not really
21:50 <+Lucifer_arma> count the footsteps between two points
21:50 <+wrtlprnft> 't use my feet for measuring distances
21:50 <spidey> you don't use your feet
21:50 <spidey> der
21:50 <+wrtlprnft> that's easier to eyeball
21:51 <spidey> 1ft = 12 inches
21:51 <spidey> i doubt everyone has a 12 inch foot
21:51 <spidey> :p
21:51 <+Lucifer_arma> what are you going to do when you have to measure a long fence or something and you have nothing to measure with?
21:51 <+Lucifer_arma> spidey: no, but I have a 12 inch dick
21:51 <spidey> with 4 heads right?
21:51 <+wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: i walk and count steps
21:51 <spidey> that's feet
21:51 <spidey> duh
21:51 <+wrtlprnft> one step happens to be pretty exactly a meter
21:51 <+wrtlprnft> *metre
21:51 <+Lucifer_arma> heh, when I was working at jiffy lube, one of the guys from the other store called and said "Do you have any 27 inch wiper blades?"
21:52 <+Lucifer_arma> to which I responded "No, but I have a 27 inch dick!"
21:52 <+wrtlprnft> or do you walk in 30 cm long steps?
21:52 <spidey> LOL
21:52 <+Lucifer_arma> steps vary in size
21:52 <+wrtlprnft> so do feet
21:52 <+wrtlprnft> but you can adjust your steps
21:52 <spidey> ..
21:52 <+wrtlprnft> you can't adjust the length of your feet
21:52 <+Lucifer_arma> then your steps are always changing, my feet haven't changed length in years
21:53 <spidey> who's gonna adjust part of there life style just so you can mesure?
21:53 <+wrtlprnft> but your feet != and imperial foot
21:53 <+Lucifer_arma> no, but it's easy to get the most consistent results using my feet
21:53 <+wrtlprnft> and it depends on what kind of shose you wear at the moment, right?
21:53 <+wrtlprnft> there != their
21:54 <+Lucifer_arma> *shoes
21:54  * spidey can messure feet easy
21:54 <spidey> all i do is put wrtlprnft end to end
21:54 <spidey> that's a foot per-end
21:54 <+wrtlprnft> no, but i once walked along a metre stick a while ago and know about how big my steps need to be
21:54 <+Lucifer_arma> I've also used cubits to measure rope and chain
21:54 <+wrtlprnft> it's a tiny bit more than the steps i would usually do
21:54 <+wrtlprnft> on even ground
21:55 <+Lucifer_arma> what was most entertaining is when I went into the hardware store and asked the guy for 8 cubits of chain, and he actually measured it with his forearm :)
21:55 <+wrtlprnft> and anyways
21:55 <+wrtlprnft> if i was to measure a fence i would measure the distance between two poles and then count the number of poles
21:55 <+Lucifer_arma> #g cubit in feet
21:55 <+armabot> 1 cubit = 1.5 feet
21:56 <+Lucifer_arma> that only works when the distances between the poles is the same.  On many fences, due to terrain, the distances actually vary somewhat
21:56 <+wrtlprnft> ever tried putting 3 of your feet on 2 of your forearms to see if that's right for you?
21:56 <+wrtlprnft> well
21:57 <+Lucifer_arma> I also have a tendency to measure in 6 foot increments by spread out my arms
21:57 <+wrtlprnft> if there's varying terrain your feet are unlikely to produce a good result anyways
21:57 <+wrtlprnft> if the fence goes through a swamp you'll have trouble
21:57 <+Lucifer_arma> well, if the fence goes through a swamp you probably shouldn't use your feet to measure it
21:57 <+Lucifer_arma> that's independent of whatever units you use
21:58 <+Lucifer_arma> I admit, I'd like it better if a foot was 10 inches instead of 12
21:59 <+wrtlprnft> #g 25.5 cm in feet
21:59 <+armabot> 25.5 centimeters = 0.836614173 feet
21:59 <+wrtlprnft> so my foot is 0.84 feet long
21:59 <+wrtlprnft> great
21:59 <+Lucifer_arma> #g 0.84 feet in inches
21:59 <+armabot> 0.84 feet = 10.08 inches
22:00 <+wrtlprnft> #g 67cm in cubits
22:00 <+armabot> 67 centimeters = 1.46544182 cubits
22:00 <+wrtlprnft> err
22:00 <+Lucifer_arma> you know, the only problem I've ever heard with imperial units was that conversions suck.  5280 feet/mile, for example.
22:00 <+wrtlprnft> well, that's exactly why i think they suck
22:01 <+Lucifer_arma> but you don't mind pi/180 ?
22:01 <spidey> lol
22:01 <+wrtlprnft> i don't exactly like the 360 degree thing
22:01 <+wrtlprnft> but in that case it's handy
22:01 <+Lucifer_arma> whether you like the conversions or not, it just so happens that 12 inches is an awfully convenient interval to work with
22:01 <+wrtlprnft> since 60 degrees is something you rarely get
22:01 <spidey> .....
22:01 <+Lucifer_arma> I happen to agree, it'd be nice if we could have something easier to convert, but I'm not scared of fractions
22:01 <+wrtlprnft> if you had a system where one revolution is 100 degrees you'd get some crazy number
22:02 <+wrtlprnft> err
22:02 <spidey> me either
22:02 <+wrtlprnft> not rarely, commonly i meant
22:02 <spidey> i made 96 on my fractions test today
22:02 <spidey> :D
22:02 <+Lucifer_arma> but man, how tall am I in SI units?
22:02 <+Lucifer_arma> #g 6 feet in meters
22:02 <+armabot> 6 feet = 1.8288 meters
22:02 <spidey> short ass
22:02 <spidey> lol
22:02 <+Lucifer_arma> #g 8 inches in feet
22:02 <+armabot> 8 inches = 0.666666667 feet
22:03 <+Lucifer_arma> #g 5.666666666667 feet in meters
22:03 <+armabot> 5.666666666667 feet = 1.7272 meters
22:03 <+Lucifer_arma> so I'm 1.83 meters tall and my wife is 1.73 meters tall
22:03 <+cusco> the imperial system is going down down down down
22:03 <+wrtlprnft> #g 186 cm in feet
22:03 <+armabot> 186 centimeters = 6.1023622 feet
22:03 <+wrtlprnft> so I'
22:03 <+wrtlprnft> #g .1023622 feet in inches
22:03 <spidey> you're 6 foot 1
22:03 <+armabot> .1023622 feet = 1.2283464 inches
22:04 <+wrtlprnft> so I'm 6 foot one inch tall
22:04 <+wrtlprnft> great
22:04 <spidey> lol
22:04 <spidey> actually
22:04 <spidey> that's pretty tall
22:04 <+wrtlprnft> i know
22:04 <spidey> i'm only 5 foot 11
22:04 <spidey> but i'm still growing
22:04 <spidey> :p
22:04 <+wrtlprnft> #g 6 feet + 11 inches in cm
22:04 <+armabot> (6 feet) + (11 inches) = 210.82 centimeters
22:04 <+wrtlprnft> err
22:04 <spidey> haha
22:05 <spidey> no
22:05 <spidey> 5ft
22:05 <+wrtlprnft> #g 5 feet + 11 inches in cm
22:05 <+armabot> (5 feet) + (11 inches) = 180.34 centimeters
22:05 <spidey> ?
22:05 <spidey> oh
22:05 <Vanhayes> #g 190cm in feet
22:05 <+armabot> 190 centimeters = 6.2335958 feet
22:05 <+wrtlprnft> that tall?
22:05 <spidey> huh?
22:05 <spidey> me or van?
22:05 <+wrtlprnft> van
22:06 <+wrtlprnft> 190 is bigger than me
22:06 <Vanhayes> 190 -192
22:06 <Vanhayes> always in between there
22:06 <+wrtlprnft> so your size fluctuates?
22:06 <spidey> LOL
22:07 <+wrtlprnft> or does that depend on hats/shoes/hair?
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22:07 <+wrtlprnft> hi z-man 
22:07 <Vanhayes> depends on hats shoes ahir and who measures me
22:07 <z-man> hi
22:07 <Vanhayes> hair*
22:07 <+wrtlprnft> could you merge 0.2.8 please?
22:07 <Vanhayes> hello
22:08 <+wrtlprnft> i'd like to see if the threading brings any improvements for me
22:08 <z-man> It probably won't
22:08 <z-man> the difference is mostly the numeric ping
22:08 <+wrtlprnft> :(
22:09 <z-man> the results of the messages are only visible on the next refresh anyway
22:09 <z-man> it's basically to make the ping more stable, if it was close to a multiple of the average frame time, it fluctuated
22:09 <+wrtlprnft> true
22:10 -!- madmax|pt [n=madmax@bl5-9-18.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #armagetron
22:10 <+wrtlprnft> somehow arma got unbearably slow with xorg 7
22:10 <+wrtlprnft> 16fps framerate
22:10 <+wrtlprnft> 24 or so is usual for me
22:11 <z-man> Starting the merge anyway, will take a while to complete.
22:11 <+wrtlprnft> i have time :)
22:14 <+Lucifer_arma> threading?
22:14  * madmax|pt x
22:15  * Lucifer_arma *
22:15 <+cusco> cd p
22:15 <+Lucifer_arma> del *.*
22:15 <+wrtlprnft> rm -rf /
22:16 <+Lucifer_arma> del c:\\*.*
22:16 <+wrtlprnft> huh?
22:16 <+wrtlprnft> deltree c:\*.*
22:16 <+Lucifer_arma> doesn't c:\ only get the current directory for that drive?
22:16 <+wrtlprnft> nah
22:17 <+wrtlprnft> if you say c: as a command you'll get to the current dir
22:17 <+wrtlprnft> afair
22:17 <+Lucifer_arma> hmmm
22:17  * Lucifer_arma never really used dos
22:17 <+wrtlprnft> del c:\*.* won't do any real damage
22:18 <+wrtlprnft> windows/dos won't boot anymore, but you won't lose any unrecocverable data
22:18 <+wrtlprnft> unless you put your stuff in the drive's root
22:18 <+Lucifer_arma> I think the most dos I've ever used was in an emulator on my amiga
22:19 <luke-jr_> deltree C:\
22:19 <luke-jr_> Amiga was a decent OS
22:23 <+wrtlprnft> woo i just reached 60000 emails
22:23 <luke-jr_> ...
22:23 <+wrtlprnft> well, e-mails + RSS items
22:24  * luke-jr_ stabs RSS
22:24 <+wrtlprnft> ~2600 are RSS
22:24 <+wrtlprnft> rss rocks, even if luke-jr_ doesn't like it, or actually, this might as well be the reason
22:24 <luke-jr_> poor english
22:24 <+wrtlprnft> so?
22:25 <luke-jr_> and RSS sucks for the simple reason of it being pull instead of push
22:25 <+wrtlprnft> that's why it rocks
22:25 <luke-jr_> ...
22:25 <+Lucifer_arma> my wife pulls, and she rules
22:25 <+Lucifer_arma> I have to do all the pushing
22:25 <+wrtlprnft> if i don't want the feed anymore i stop pulling
22:25 <+wrtlprnft> other then newsletters
22:26 <+Lucifer_arma> http sucks for the simple reason of it being pull instead of push
22:26 <luke-jr_> I'd rather use XMPP pubsub
22:26 <luke-jr_> indeed, HTTP sucks for publishing
22:26 <+Lucifer_arma> you'd use xmpp to wash your car, wouldn't you?
22:26 <+wrtlprnft> i have to give them information on how to push (mail adress), and if i want them to stop pushing, all i can technically do is kindly ask them
22:26 <luke-jr_> no, I'd use XMPP to signal a robot to wash my car
22:26 <+wrtlprnft> but if they want to keep sending me spam i can't prevent them once they have the address
22:27 <luke-jr_> spam isn't a problem with XMPP :)
22:27 <+Lucifer_arma> well, luke-jr_'s not known for empowering users
22:27 <+wrtlprnft> well
22:27 <+Lucifer_arma> quite the contrary
22:27 <+wrtlprnft> name a site that has an XMPP feed
22:27 <luke-jr_> dunno any
22:27 <luke-jr_> :(
22:27 <+wrtlprnft> there ya go
22:27 <luke-jr_> nor any clients for it
22:27 <+wrtlprnft> so i use RSS
22:27 <+mkzelda> does xmpp have a site?
22:27 <luke-jr_> me too
22:27 <luke-jr_> but RSS sucks :(
22:27 <luke-jr_> mkzelda: it has RFCs
22:28 <luke-jr_> mkzelda: and plenty of people have sites about it
22:28 <luke-jr_> like http://jabber.org
22:28 <+mkzelda> reinventing the wheel is fun
22:28 <luke-jr_> but most of them are about its IM capabilities
22:28 <+Lucifer_arma> but if you started linking them here, luke-jr_ would pull their site about.  Er, push their site apart.
22:28 <+wrtlprnft> as long as it is not in common useage it's worthless to me
22:28 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: nothing will be common usage with that attitude
22:29 <luke-jr_> chicken & egg
22:29 <+wrtlprnft> you're talking to a user in that case
22:29 <luke-jr_> ok, that makes a difference =p
22:29 -!- wejp [n=j0hannes@i577BA0ED.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
22:29 <+Lucifer_arma> there's a fine line between being an early adopter and a big nuisance
22:29 <luke-jr_> seriously, tho, using XMPP pubsub over RSS could save tons of bandwidth...
22:30 <+wrtlprnft> if i MAKE something, like a web page, i will consider using rare good things over common bad things
22:30 <+wrtlprnft> or, actually, by now, i will always write valid XHTML
22:30 <luke-jr_> I always write almost-valid XHTML
22:30 <+wrtlprnft> worthless
22:30 <luke-jr_> I just leave off the doctype cuz i can't remember it
22:31 <+wrtlprnft> no point in that
22:31 <luke-jr_> =p
22:31 <+Lucifer_arma> then it's completely invalid generic html
22:31 <luke-jr_> eventually, the doctype gets into stuff that's important
22:31 <+wrtlprnft> spidey also uses almost valid resources
22:31 <+wrtlprnft> he just leaves off the path since he can't remember it
22:31 <luke-jr_> heh, almost valid resources won't work ;p
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22:31 <+wrtlprnft> oh, they do
22:36 <+Lucifer_arma> the most important thing about the resource system right now is that the retrieval needs to be made non-blocking
22:37 <+Lucifer_arma> I'm tired of staring at a full screen that shows me an obviously bad path, watching my client cycle through the list of download locations knowing it won't find it,
22:37 <+Lucifer_arma> and unable to do jack shit about it until it's done
22:38 <+wrtlprnft> same with a connecting to a server
22:38 <+Lucifer_arma> indeed, I'd like that to be nonblocking too.  :)
22:38 <+Lucifer_arma> receiving and processing user input should never have to wait for the program to do something, imo
22:38 <+Lucifer_arma> of course, the amount of user input that can be processed usefully will drop when the program is doing something
22:39 <spidey> wrtlprnft spidey also uses almost valid resources
22:40 <spidey> i remember the path
22:40 <spidey> i'm just to lazy to type it
22:40 <spidey> test4.xml is much easier to type than test4-0.0.1-aacockpit.xml
22:40 <+wrtlprnft> that's what i mean
22:41 <spidey> lazy and not knowing are 2 different things :)
22:41 <+wrtlprnft> z-man: why do we actually need the thread thing for the ping?
22:41 <+wrtlprnft> it could just measure the time between the point the ping got in and the point where the reply got sent out and subtract it from the result it gets
22:42 <+wrtlprnft> or include it in the ping message
22:42 <z-man> If it could measure the time of the incoming message, yes.
22:42 <+wrtlprnft> it can't?
22:42 <z-man> Unfortunately, you have to be there and get the message to time it.
22:43 <+wrtlprnft> ah, i assumed udp messages were timestamped
22:43 <z-man> I haven't seen an API for the sockets that returns the true incoming time
22:43 <z-man> It would be cool, that's right.
22:43 <+wrtlprnft> nvm then
22:43 <+mkzelda> haha i thought i had that nasty effect you get when you have your vid card set to 16 bit and images that use more
22:44 <+wrtlprnft> ?
22:44 <+Lucifer_arma> well, see, you can't put your own timestamp in there because you're dependent on the other person's clock being right
22:44 <+wrtlprnft> no
22:44 <+mkzelda> but it turned out that the default kde background has earth subtly in it
22:44 <+wrtlprnft> i meant the incoming timestamp
22:44 <+Lucifer_arma> and then depending on how much you trust the timestamps you open yourself up to trouble
22:44 <+Lucifer_arma> you mean when the os got it?
22:44 <+wrtlprnft> yeah
22:44 <+Lucifer_arma> ahhh, ok.  nvm.  :)
22:44 <+wrtlprnft> sdl imput is, right?
22:45 <+wrtlprnft> *input
22:45 <+Lucifer_arma> could be, but it's likely that sdl puts its own timestamp on there
22:46 <+Lucifer_arma> we could time when we receive it and when we respond to it, the way I understand (and I could be wrong), that information would be meaningless right now
22:46 <+armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5648 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (25 files in 8 dirs): (log message trimmed)
22:46 <+armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 5611 to 5647:
22:46 <+armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
22:46 <+armabot> armagetronad:  r5647 | z-man | 2006-07-11 17:47:26 +0200 (Tue, 11 Jul 2006) | 1 line
22:46 <+armabot> armagetronad:  Updated to code changes.
22:46 <+armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
22:46 <+armabot> armagetronad:  r5646 | z-man | 2006-07-11 17:09:10 +0200 (Tue, 11 Jul 2006) | 1 line
22:46 <+wrtlprnft> big merge :)
22:46  * wrtlprnft updates and recompiles
22:46 <+Lucifer_arma> but if we grabbed the incoming messages in a separate thread/process and then stuck them in a queue, it would be meaningful to know how long they spent in that queue
22:46 <z-man> I don't think SDL input is timestamped :( We had an input thread adding timestamps quite a while back.
22:47 <z-man> Lucifer_arma: that's what it did :) I think nothing meaningful was done to the timestamps then, so I disabled the thread.
22:48 <+wrtlprnft> z-man: NEWS:131(trunk):>>>>>>> .merge-right.r4902
22:48 <+wrtlprnft> i assume that shouldn't be there
22:48 <z-man> right
22:49 <z-man> strange, no conflict was indicated
22:49 <+armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5649 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tron/gCycleMovement.cpp: Following client commands while rubber is used enhanced. The involuntary death probability should be lower now.
22:49 <+wrtlprnft> is there a voluntary death probability too?
22:49 <z-man> Yes :)
22:49 <+wrtlprnft> or a voluntary death doesn't happen probability?
22:50 <z-man> Well, you may fail to suicide properly.
22:50 <+wrtlprnft> like, miss the rim wall?
22:50 <z-man> Don't laught, that happened :)
22:50 <z-man> the AIs had this special talent.
22:51 <+wrtlprnft> or suddenly your keyboard stops working just as you wanted to start a spiral of death
22:51 <+Lucifer_arma> that happens too
22:51 <+Lucifer_arma> people get IMed ingame all the time
22:51 <+wrtlprnft> pff
22:51 <+armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5650 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/NEWS: removed old conflict marker
22:51 <+wrtlprnft> t
22:52 <+wrtlprnft> hmm, i won't SVN update for that one ;)
22:52 <+Lucifer_arma> seems like certain conflicts could be resolved using input timestamps
22:52 <+Lucifer_arma> like two cycles turn toward each other, which one's on the outside and which on the inside?  If the turns happen in the same timestep, that is
22:53 <+Lucifer_arma> you could compute where the turn takes place from the timestamps instead to resolve the conflict
22:53 <+wrtlprnft> that might explain why I it's so hard to hit a tunnel or hole for me
22:54 <+wrtlprnft> i always assumed arma was doing that since it's doing all kinds of other magic
22:54 <z-man> Sorry, don't know what you're talking about
22:54 <+Lucifer_arma> I think the game's gotten more sensitive, I miss most of the holes I used to hit now
22:54 <z-man> Lag slides?
22:54 <+wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: that might be you getting old
22:54 <+Lucifer_arma> like there are two walls that are slightly misaligned, and you generally want to hit the corner of one and grind that down the tunnel
22:54 <z-man> You know I'm looking for lag slide clientside recordings on Bugfarm?
22:55 <+Lucifer_arma> but my turn to turn towards the corner is happening too early
22:55 <+wrtlprnft> but with recordings the game runs even slower :S
22:55 <+Lucifer_arma> z-man: no, not talking about lag slides.  local game stuff
22:55 <+wrtlprnft> and, well, now i can't get a lot of lag anymore
22:55 <+wrtlprnft> move your server to japan or Canada and i can maybe help ypu
22:55 <+wrtlprnft> *you
22:55 <z-man> Ah. Hmm, timestamping the input could help here, this could increase the precision
22:55 <+Lucifer_arma> you can get really good client side lag slide recordings on my server
22:56 <+wrtlprnft> but then z-man won't have the appropiate serverside recording to match the data
22:56 <z-man> wrtlprnft: there's lagfarm for that
22:56 <+mkzelda> z-man i had a new (to me) lag where it appeared i was driving 3x normal speed
22:56 <+mkzelda> last night in sumo
22:56 <+mkzelda> lasted entire round
22:56 <+Lucifer_arma> ahhh, hmmm, it would sure be nice if my serer were recording
22:56 <+mkzelda> everyone else said it looked like i was jumping from one side to the other
22:57 <z-man> mkzelda: I don't suppose you have a recording of that?
22:57 <+wrtlprnft> hmm, can we get a few people on lagfarm so i can get a recording of those pacmak map glitches?
22:57 <+mkzelda> no, but ill try to now
22:57 <+wrtlprnft> *pacmap
22:57 <+mkzelda> ill jump on there and record now
22:57 <z-man> hmm if everyone else saw strange effects, it may have been a server side thing
22:57 <z-man> did you cry BUG?
22:57 <+wrtlprnft> yes
22:57 <+wrtlprnft> people spawned inside closed areas
22:57 <+wrtlprnft> and i drove around inside one for a while
22:57  * Lucifer_arma is trying to reconstruct an invoice from data that doesn't exist anymore
22:58 <+mkzelda> no, but i can guess within an hour, and u can grep the messages for "3x" possibly
22:58 <+mkzelda> dook + 3x
22:58 <+Lucifer_arma> turns out I did lose some important data, but it only appears at the worst times
22:58 <+mkzelda> oh, i might have said 3 times as fast :D
22:58 <+mkzelda> nm
22:58 <z-man> respawning is a HACK
22:58 <+wrtlprnft> i know
22:59 <z-man> it's not supposed to work right with any map
22:59 <+wrtlprnft> uh, you never said that i think
22:59 <+wrtlprnft> you even told us to try custom maps in the thread where you gave us the password
23:00 <+wrtlprnft> > Set nasty maps, disable rubber completely, unleash an army of monkeys, be evil.
23:00 <+Lucifer_arma> an army of the 12 monkeys?
23:01 <z-man> Well, if you have 12, sure.
23:01  * Lucifer_arma loves that movie
23:01 <+wrtlprnft> and i guess that if you can push up the server load enough you can even go throgh walls on the default map
23:01 <luke-jr_> btw
23:01 <+Lucifer_arma> my only regret about that movie is that I didn't see it until after I quit smoking pot
23:01 <luke-jr_> size_factor -10 doesn't work with the default map
23:01 <z-man> wrtlprnft: right, but I never said you had the right to complain if anything goes wrong :)
23:01 <luke-jr_> people spawn outside the arena
23:02 <+wrtlprnft> oh, if you want 12 monkeys: NUM_AIS 12
23:02 <+wrtlprnft> z-man: well, i assumed that was the point
23:02 <z-man> sort of
23:02 <z-man> but of course, there are limitations
23:02 <z-man> Oh, and unfortunately, the recordings of that day were unusable again :(
23:02 <z-man> If you repeat the experiment, I'll have a look.
23:03 <+wrtlprnft> second, I'm sure i can get the same result with the standard map and a bunch of AIs
23:03 <z-man> maybe
23:04  * z-man activated lag sliding log messages on Fortress to see who is complaining without reason
23:05 <+Lucifer_arma> heh
23:05 <z-man> Lucifer_arma: Yes, best time travel movie ever.
23:05 <+Lucifer_arma> I'll make sure to validate my claims with recordings or to not make such claims
23:06 <z-man> Haven't seen you complainig yet
23:06 <+mkzelda> Lucifer_arma, I had probs with my playlist stopping a lot last night
23:06 <spidey> usually
23:06 <+wrtlprnft> you actually read chats there or just stuff around BUG cries?
23:06 <spidey> i don't slide
23:06 <spidey> unless my connection sucks
23:06 <spidey> ext. rain
23:06 <spidey> :/
23:07 <spidey> seems as time goes by
23:07 <spidey> my isp's routing gets better
23:07 <z-man> I usually only read around BUG cries, but occasionally, I also grep for la+g
23:07 <+mkzelda> i thought it might have been vbr mp3s that were causing it to stop, tho i cant confirm yet
23:07 <spidey> but quality gets worse
23:07 <+Lucifer_arma> I don't complain much, my attitude about lag precludes most lag complaints I might make
23:07 <luke-jr_> z-man: aww, you didn't read that chat where I called you names, did you?
23:07 <+mkzelda> i try hard to replace 'lag' with 'wd'
23:07 <spidey> LOOOL
23:08 <luke-jr_> hehe, jk =p
23:08 <z-man> I don't care if I get called names :)
23:08 <spidey> #insult z-man 
23:08 <+armabot> z-man - You are nothing but a halfbaked ass-full of weasel-smelling snot. 
23:08 <spidey> xD
23:08 <madmax|pt> btw, today i somehow seemed to beat cycle_delay
23:09 <luke-jr_> I like CYCLE_DELAY 0.00000000001
23:09 <spidey> i like 3 axis's
23:09 <luke-jr_> and CYCLE_INVULNERABLE_TIME 2000000000
23:09 <madmax|pt> is that possible?
23:09 <madmax|pt> i mean beating it
23:09 <spidey> mm
23:09 <spidey> i wonder what a deathmatch with 3 axis would be like
23:09  * spidey sets one up
23:10 <spidey> i guess i'd need 2 directories luke?
23:10 <spidey> or can i run them from the same dir
23:10 <spidey> but change settings
23:11 <spidey> Vanhayes,
23:11  * spidey pokes Vanhayes 
23:11 <luke-jr_> you can't configure for deathmatch
23:12 <spidey> ah
23:12 <spidey> so i need 2 dir's ?
23:12 <luke-jr_> sure
23:12 <luke-jr_> and you need to compile it
23:13 <+wrtlprnft> z-man: i think i just crashed it
23:13 <z-man> Naa, don't worry, it's just restarting
23:13 <z-man> takes a while
23:14 <+wrtlprnft> 20 AIs are a bit too much
23:14 <z-man> Oh, and now it's recompiling
23:14 <+wrtlprnft> o_O
23:14 <z-man> will take another while
23:14 <+wrtlprnft> not the usual Admin: Restart in 10 minutes?
23:15 <z-man> you left the server, right?
23:15 <+wrtlprnft> no
23:15 <z-man> It has dedicated_idle set to something
23:15 <+wrtlprnft> it kicked me
23:15 <z-man> hehe
23:15 <+wrtlprnft> or, i timed out
23:15 <z-man> well, that counts as leaving
23:15 <+wrtlprnft> well, dunno why i timed out
23:15 <+wrtlprnft> might have been the server crashing
23:16 <+wrtlprnft> and then I'll time out
23:16 <z-man> [1] received logout from 1.
23:16 <z-man> [1] wrtlprnft |mbc| left the game.
23:16 <z-man> [1] Killing user 1, ping 3.79392.
23:16 <z-man> that's the log of your quitting
23:16 <+wrtlprnft> hmm, ok
23:16 <+wrtlprnft> strange, i have no connection problems
23:16 <z-man> That's how it looks if the client decides it's timing out
23:17 <+wrtlprnft> yeah
23:17 <+wrtlprnft> i had that before when it was possible to crash my server by saying /msg
23:17 <+wrtlprnft> the client has no clue if the server crashed or the connection
23:22 <+wrtlprnft> mathias@laptop $ free -m                                                  /home total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
23:22 <+wrtlprnft> Mem:          1010        997         13          0          3         23
23:22 <+wrtlprnft> -/+ buffers/cache:        970         39
23:22 <+wrtlprnft> Swap:          488        393         94
23:22 <+wrtlprnft> omg
23:22 <+wrtlprnft> don't be surprised if i crash soon
23:22 <+wrtlprnft> darn openoffice compile
23:29 <+wrtlprnft> wow
23:30 <+wrtlprnft> the free memory just jumped from almost 0 to 700MB in physical memory and from about 100MB to 400MB in swap space
23:30 <+wrtlprnft> looks like there was a really big gcc process
23:31 <+wrtlprnft> #monologue
23:31 <+armabot> wrtlprnft: Your current monologue is at least 14 lines long.
23:38 <+Lucifer_arma> too bad asking armabot your monologue breaks the monologue
23:38 <madmax|pt> wrtlprnft pwns monologues
23:38 <+wrtlprnft> it doesn't
23:39 <+wrtlprnft> #monologue
23:39 <+armabot> wrtlprnft: Your current monologue is at least 2 lines long.
23:39 <+wrtlprnft> #monologue
23:39 <+armabot> wrtlprnft: Your current monologue is at least 3 lines long.
23:39 <madmax|pt> "at least" ?
23:39 <+wrtlprnft> armabot ignores itself for that
23:39 <+wrtlprnft> wekk
23:39 <+wrtlprnft> *well
23:39 <+wrtlprnft> you could have a monologue
23:39 <+wrtlprnft> and then armabot joins
23:39 <+wrtlprnft> and then you continue it
23:39 <madmax|pt> good point
23:39 <+wrtlprnft> or you could have linewrap
23:40 <+wrtlprnft> this doesn't fit on one line but only on at least two lines this doesn't fit on one line but only on at least two lines this doesn't fit on one line but only on at least two lines this doesn't fit on one line but only on at least two lines
23:40 <+wrtlprnft> unless you have a really huge screen or a really small font
23:45 <+wrtlprnft> spidey: haha, you're now on top of the kick stat!
23:45 <+wrtlprnft> spidey wasn't very popular, getting kicked 3 times!
23:45 <+wrtlprnft> For example, like this: *** spidey was kicked by guru3 
23:45 <+wrtlprnft> sniperyyd seemed to be hated too: 2 kicks were received.
23:47 <spidey> heh
23:48 <spidey> #night
23:48 <+armabot> Good night spidey!

Log from 2006-07-12:
--- Day changed Wed Jul 12 2006
00:00 <spidey> nvm
00:00 <spidey> not tired enough
00:02 <+wrtlprnft> o_O
00:02  * wrtlprnft wouldn't be tired at 5PM
00:02 <spidey> it's past my bed time
00:03  * wrtlprnft goes to bed and carefully remembers NOT to close the cover
00:03 <spidey> lol
00:11 <+armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5651 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tron/gCycleMovement.cpp: Added debug checks for CYCLE_DELAY violations, fixed one of them.
00:11 <z-man> #later tell madmax|pt got your cycle_delay violation, well, not yours, someone elses, that was easier to find :)
00:11 <+armabot> z-man: The operation succeeded.
00:12 <madmax|pt> o_O
00:12 <madmax|pt> someone elses?
00:13 <madmax|pt> sooo, there's lots of it?
00:13 <madmax|pt> lol
00:13 <z-man> No, it doesn't happen that often
00:14 <z-man> I actually don't know who I got
00:14 <z-man> Didn't check
00:14 <z-man> and after the fix, the recording doesn't play back to the violation itself
00:15 <madmax|pt> hmm, ok
00:19 <+armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5652 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/tron/gCycleMovement.cpp: (log message trimmed)
00:19 <+armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 5647 to 5651:
00:19 <+armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
00:19 <+armabot> armagetronad:  r5651 | z-man | 2006-07-12 00:10:55 +0200 (Wed, 12 Jul 2006) | 1 line
00:19 <+armabot> armagetronad:  Added debug checks for CYCLE_DELAY violations, fixed one of them.
00:19 <+armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
00:20 <+armabot> armagetronad:  r5649 | z-man | 2006-07-11 22:48:57 +0200 (Tue, 11 Jul 2006) | 1 line
00:20 <spidey> z-man, why doesn't the recording allow the server to crash?
00:20 <z-man> ?
00:20 <spidey> on my server
00:20 <spidey> there's a setting bug it's 2.8.2
00:20 <spidey> walls_stay_up_delay or something like that
00:20 -!- [NP]Tangent [n=hyperdev@71-211-201-61.hlrn.qwest.net] has quit ["Ex-Chat"]
00:20 <z-man> You mean, the crash IS reproducible if you don't record?
00:20 <spidey> it crashes when i don't record...but won't crash when it's recording
00:21 <z-man> I thought it isn't
00:21 <z-man> Some memory overwrite bugs do stuff like that
00:21 <spidey> actually it won't even accept the setting that makes it crash while it's recording
00:21 <spidey> oh
00:23 <+mkzelda> i just locked up
00:23 <spidey> i can't get a recording but i got the 2 core files if you want them?
00:23 <spidey> mkzelda ?
00:23 <+mkzelda> tron froze
00:23 <spidey> heh
00:23 <+mkzelda> didnt kill anything else
00:23 <+mkzelda> i think the mp3 killed it
00:24 <+mkzelda> wonder if rec is still there
00:24 <+mkzelda> ya
00:25 <+mkzelda> i remember reading something about certain mp3s killing windows aa
00:25 <spidey> heh
00:27 <Vanhayes> it isnt nice to poke people spidey 
00:27 <+mkzelda> yea
00:27 <spidey> LOL
00:27 <+mkzelda> that same mp3 crashes it
00:28 <spidey> Vanhayes, can i play for canada? ;D
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00:28  * spidey really doesn't wanna play on psykos team if he doesn't have to
00:28 <Vanhayes> move to canada, and then maybe
00:28 <spidey> :/
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00:29 <spidey> lol
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00:30 <Vanhayes> oops
00:30 <spidey> lol
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01:19 <+mkzelda> some players jump /bounce around a LOT with the trunk for me
01:19 <+mkzelda> although im playing better than ever, and im lag killing often
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01:27 <spidey> ?
01:27 <spidey> i use predict_objects 1 for that
01:28 <+mkzelda> is that prediction?
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01:47 <spidey> yes
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01:58 <Lackadaisical> hi everyone
01:59 <madmax|pt> hi Lackadaisical 
02:00 <Vanhayes> hello
02:12  * Lucifer_arma is an accountant
02:19 <Vanhayes> congradulations?
02:27 <+Lucifer_arma> uhhh, no?  heh
02:27 <+Lucifer_arma> I just balanced our accounts, and we switched to a double-entry system, so it was the first time I've ever done double-entry by hand
02:27 <+Lucifer_arma> feels like quite an accomplishment
02:27 <+Lucifer_arma> our = my family's
02:27 <madmax|pt> double-entry?
02:29 <madmax|pt> heh, going to bed
02:32 <Vanhayes> night
02:33  * madmax|pt is away: Sleep
02:43 <+mkzelda> i got a recording on lagfarm where i stopped moving
02:43 <+mkzelda> and others expereienced it
02:49 <+Lucifer_arma> yeah, double-entry
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02:58 <Vanhayes> heh im playing a hosted game with 14 people and 1 rubber
02:59 <Vanhayes> and winning 
03:03 <Vanhayes> aw they shut it down
03:11 <+Lucifer_arma> I hate setting up printers
03:27 <Your_mom_arma> luci are you moving the wiki now, i cant log in
03:33 <+Lucifer_arma> no, there's a problem with it, but guru3 hasn't sent me the database yet
03:33 <+Lucifer_arma> I should probably remind him to send it
03:35 <+Lucifer_arma> but there is a problem with the spam protection on it that I hope to get resolved in the move, or soon after
03:37 <Your_mom_arma> alright
03:48 <+Lucifer_arma> KMyMoney is a program that looks very nice but is a real pain in the ass to use
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04:06 <spidey> m
04:07 <spidey> how i rename a file from terminal?
04:07 <spidey> it's rename file newname right?
04:10 <+Lucifer_arma> mv oldfile newfile
04:10 <+Lucifer_arma> you don't rename so much as move it
04:10 <spidey>  ah
04:11 <spidey> ls
04:11 <spidey> er
04:12  * Lucifer_arma points to the other window
04:12 <spidey> heh
04:13 <spidey> i really need a name for the servers O_o
04:14 <spidey> i guess i'll stick to U.S.whateverkindaserver
04:14 <spidey> heh
04:15 <spidey> i told nightmare not to be spamming his clan stuff in my server,he told me not to talk to him like that,then i said i'll talk to you how i feel
04:15 <spidey> he said that wouldn't be a smart idea
04:15 <spidey> O_o
04:16 <Vanhayes> did u kick him after that?
04:16 <spidey> no
04:17 <spidey> he saw i was logged in with /console players and asked how i got the password
04:17 <spidey> and really didn't say much more
04:17 <spidey> lol
04:17 <Vanhayes> lol nice
04:17 <spidey> he still doesn't know spidey = blaze
04:17 <spidey> heh
04:19 <spidey> acid@server [~/tron/server/bin]# ./armagetronad
04:19 <spidey> ./armagetronad: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL_image-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
04:19 <spidey> O_o
04:26 <spidey> van
04:26 <spidey> come to U.S.3Axes
04:26 <Vanhayes> spid
04:26 <Vanhayes> ok
04:53 <spidey> llol
04:53 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, connect to fallin-angels.com on port 4345
04:53 <spidey> sor whatever
04:53 <spidey> schange he last number to a 5
04:53 <luke-jr_> with a web browser?
04:53 <spidey> tron
04:53 <luke-jr_> =p
04:53 <spidey> luke-jr_, goto U.S.3Axes
04:53 <spidey> :)
04:55 <luke-jr_> why
04:58 <spidey> come on ;p
05:17 <spidey> um
05:17 <spidey> Vanhayes, 
05:17 <spidey> ?
05:17 <Vanhayes> ?
05:18 <spidey> erm
05:18 <spidey> sec
05:19 <spidey> seems the webserver went down
05:19 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.com
05:19 <spidey> it load for you?
05:20 <+Lucifer_arma> maybe nightmare remembers that shit he was doing on my server and getting kicked repeatedly :)
05:20 <spidey> ??
05:20 <Vanhayes> it loads spidey 
05:20 <spidey> just now
05:21 <spidey> i'm able to reconnect to ssh now
05:21 <spidey> restarting the server
05:21 <spidey> i'ma load one at a time this time
05:21 <spidey> 3axes first
05:21 <spidey> i need to upload this exec first
05:23 <+mkzelda> that was fun
05:23 <spidey> ok
05:23 <spidey> reconnect
05:34 <spidey> fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
05:34 <Vanhayes> ?
05:34 <spidey> ahhhhhhh
05:35 <spidey> the server crashes when people get on both servers
05:35 <spidey> ok
05:35 <spidey> one server
05:35 <spidey> which one?
05:35 <spidey> 3axes or normal?
05:36 <+mkzelda> hung up?
05:36 <Vanhayes> normal 3 axes is fine
05:36 <Vanhayes> er
05:36 <Vanhayes> was fine
05:36 <spidey> ok so 3 axes?
05:37 <+mkzelda> yea
05:37 <+mkzelda> for now
05:37 <spidey> ok
05:37 <spidey> started
05:38 <+mkzelda> are they on the same port?
05:38 <spidey> no
05:38 <+mkzelda> ppl keep joining one server or the other acting as if they expected the other
05:41 <Vanhayes> um is it down again?
05:41 <Vanhayes> #last
05:41 <+armabot> Vanhayes: [22:41:25] <Vanhayes> um is it down again?
06:14 <+armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r5653 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/MacOS/Armagetron Advanced.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj: Added eLagCompensation files
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06:36 <+mkzelda> um is it down again?
06:36 <spidey> port changed
06:36 <+mkzelda> :D
06:36 <+mkzelda> i g2g2bed
06:36 <+mkzelda> thats a great server already
06:36 <spidey> :D
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08:22 <@guru3> Lucifer_arma: ready for the database?
08:22 <+Lucifer_arma> sure, except I won't do anything with it until tomorrow or the next day :)
08:23 <@guru3> ok to just leave the wiki down for that period?
08:23 <+Lucifer_arma> well, I don't personally mind.  :)  That's why I posted advance warning on the forums, after all.
08:23 <+Lucifer_arma> If you want to post another warning saying "it'll go down at <this time>", and wait until then, knock yourself out
08:24 <@guru3> i always enjoy suprising people though
08:24 <+Lucifer_arma> up to you.  :)  It's not exactly a surprise, since I posted a warning awhile back, with another one today.
08:24 <@guru3> ok
08:25 <@guru3> now...
08:25 <@guru3> how did db dumping work again...
08:27 <+wrtlprnft> i already noticed guru3 likes surprises, especially if they break things ;)
08:27 <+Lucifer_arma> last time you sshed to my machine and did it yourself, iirc.  This time there's no account for you there, so you can just do a regular dump and give me a link :)
08:27 <@guru3> roger
08:27 <+Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: best kind of surprise
08:29 <+wrtlprnft> guru3: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=5991 :s
08:29 <@guru3> damn i didn't want to login into the forums yet
08:30 <+wrtlprnft> ah, it can wait
08:30 <+Lucifer_arma> yeah, doesn't look like porno spam this time
08:30 <+wrtlprnft> spam anyways
08:30 <+Lucifer_arma> yeah, but not as high priority as porno spam
08:31 <@guru3> lots of registered spam users tho :/
08:31 <@guru3> i need a patch for the forums
08:31 <+wrtlprnft> captchas aren't 100% safe
08:31 <@guru3> that blocks users from registering with a mail.ru email address
08:38 <@guru3> ok figured out that was possible just now
08:38 <@guru3> why do i never find this stuff in the control panel
08:38 <@guru3> but instead always wind up reading the php to find out about it :S
08:43 <+wrtlprnft> bad control panel layout?
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08:49 <Vanhayes> http://www.wherethehellismatt.com anyone want to sponsor a trip around the world for me? 
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09:07 <@guru3> Lucifer_arma: did you get the wikidb link?
09:08 <+Lucifer_arma> ummm, where's you send it?
09:12 <@guru3> in a notice
09:18 <+Lucifer_arma> aha, there it is
09:18 <+Lucifer_arma> downloaded
09:19 <@guru3> ok
09:19 <+Lucifer_arma> thanks, I'll get it up hopefully tomorrow
09:19 <@guru3> hf
09:19 <@guru3> hmm
09:19 <@guru3> better do an archive of the attachments
09:19 <@guru3> just thought of that :S
09:20 <@guru3> actually
09:20 <@guru3> i'll just tar up the folder :D
09:20 <@guru3> wonder why i didn't think of that before ><
09:22 <@guru3> noticed that url
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10:45  * madmax|pt is back (gone 08:11:54)
11:23 <+armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5654 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/engine/eGameObject.cpp: Fixed wrong check for too small timesteps.
11:24 <+armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5655 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tron/gCycle.cpp: Fixed correction of step too far back in time.
11:42 <spidey> you guys haven't seen speed yet
11:42 <spidey> xD
11:43 <spidey> i just hit 1.7 million on the speed guage xD
11:43 <spidey> swith 1million rubber
11:43 <spidey> ahaha
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15:10 <+cusco> I noticed a inter tron server on the master server list
15:26 <luke-jr_> ?
15:37 <+cusco> that was its name
15:38 <+cusco> and it said "hosted by lod"
15:38 <+cusco> or something
15:38 <+cusco> but it looks like its no longer there
16:00 <luke-jr_> inter tron?
16:00 <+wrtlprnft> second, he figured out how to host a server without making a stupid thread on the forums?
16:00 <+wrtlprnft> respect
16:26 <+wrtlprnft> #g 37 kW in horsepowers
16:26 <+armabot> Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
16:27 <+wrtlprnft> stupid thing :S
16:27 <+wrtlprnft> #g 37 kW in HP
16:27 <+armabot> 37 kilowatts = 49.6178173 HP
16:27 <+wrtlprnft> there we go
17:32 <+wrtlprnft> nice way to take the wiki down ;)
17:32  * wrtlprnft goes somewhere else to avoid another huge monologue
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17:50 <madmax|pt> #google fight "selection sort" "insertion sort"
17:50 <+armabot> madmax|pt: selection sort: 151000000, insertion sort: 8280000
17:50 <madmax|pt> #google fight "selection sort" "quick sort"
17:50 <+armabot> madmax|pt: quick sort: 188000000, selection sort: 169000000
18:00 <z-man> bubble sort!
18:00 <z-man> random sort is my favorite :)
18:01 <z-man> you just can't beat expected O(N!) runtime and the chance to never finish at all.
18:02 <madmax|pt> lolol
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18:57 <+armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r5656 /tools/map-preview/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Fixed min_bounds and max_bounds bug. Initializing to [0, 0] is incorrect, should instead initialize to the first value received from the parser.
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19:07 <nemostultae> luke-jr_: Is aabeta still not [auto-updating](http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=65661#65661)? 
19:20 <+armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5657 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tron/gCycleMovement.cpp: Fixed handling of redundant brake commands, the flexibilization for many axes broke it.
19:29 <+armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5658 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/ (3 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
19:29 <+armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 5651 to 5657:
19:29 <+armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
19:29 <+armabot> armagetronad:  r5657 | z-man | 2006-07-12 19:20:28 +0200 (Wed, 12 Jul 2006) | 1 line
19:29 <+armabot> armagetronad:  Fixed handling of redundant brake commands, the flexibilization for many axes broke it.
19:29 <+armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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19:29 <+armabot> armagetronad:  r5655 | z-man | 2006-07-12 11:24:31 +0200 (Wed, 12 Jul 2006) | 1 line
19:33 <luke-jr_> nemostultae: ask Lucifer, he does that
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19:48 <Vanhayes> #realchatlogs
19:48 <+armabot> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armalogs.txt
20:07 <+Lucifer_arma> heh.  I was thinking "lock the wiki" as in "let people read it, just don't let them write to it"
20:10  * luke-jr_ grumbles
20:11 <luke-jr_> Ricoh made a Linux-based digital camera but never sold it :(
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20:23 <+Lucifer_arma> guru3: you can redirect the wiki at will now, it's back on my machine, I think
20:25 <+Lucifer_arma> http://wiki.davefancella.com is the temporary location of the wiki now
20:38 <+Lucifer_arma> #unload CIA
20:38 <+armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
20:39 <+Lucifer_arma> #load CIA
20:39 <+armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
20:39 <+Lucifer_arma> #listhandlers
20:39 <+armabot> Lucifer_arma: commitnotifier
20:40 <Lackadaisical> does anyone know what kind of bonus camera_glance_angular_velocity_bonus is?
20:42 <+Lucifer_arma> I would guess it's a bonus that changes angular velocity when you've glanced, as opposed to when you've just turned, and controls how quickly the camera returns to regular view after a glance
20:42 <+Lucifer_arma> but that's just a guess
20:42 <+Lucifer_arma> far as I know, the units on angular velocity are radians/second, too.  But that's also just a guess.  :)
20:43 <madmax|pt> trying to fix .3 glance?
20:46 <Lackadaisical> experimenting a bit
20:49 <nemostultae_> Lucifer_arma: does the commitnotifier update aabeta?
20:49 <+Lucifer_arma> not yet, working on that problem right now
20:50 <+Lucifer_arma> it lost the handler for it on a system crash (2 year old invoked)
20:50 <+Lucifer_arma> for some reason, the aliases persisted.  I'm trying to work out what the difference is, since the handlers are mostly ripped from alias :)
20:58 <Lackadaisical> mmm... the wiki tells me to put the camera settings in the autoexec.cfg file, but there is none, do i need to make one?
20:58 <+Lucifer_arma> yes
20:58 <+Lucifer_arma> there is none to protect you from upgrades overwriting your old one :)
21:00 <Lackadaisical> ah ok , thanks
21:03 <+Lucifer_arma> #add handler test armagetronad echo "Hi there!"
21:03 <+armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: The command "add" is available in the Alias, Herald, News, Praise, Quote, and RSS plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "add".
21:03 <+Lucifer_arma> #addhandler test armagetronad echo "Hi there!"
21:03 <+armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
21:03 <+Lucifer_arma> #flush
21:03 <+armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
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21:04 <+Lucifer_arma> #listhandlers
21:04 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: No handlers defined!
21:11 <+wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: the notes plugin has actual code that saves the notes to a textfile...
21:12 <+wrtlprnft> i don't see anything for the CIA things, so it looks like that's the reason, it won't save anything by itself
21:12 <+wrtlprnft> s/things/thingy
21:15 <+wrtlprnft> did we downgrade the wiki now? :S
21:17  * wrtlprnft likes how z-man always words important and exploitable bugfixes in a way so that noone from the outside can guess what it's about and how to expoit it :)
21:18  * z-man doesn't understand bugfarm fortress player count. One minute it's empty, next minute full.
21:18 <+wrtlprnft> yeah
21:18 <z-man> It doesn't look like an exploitable bug after all. Have you tried it? It certainly messes your client up more than anyone elses' :)
21:19 <+wrtlprnft> i always get the feeling that if i enter either a whole bunch of people enter too, or if i barely managed to jouin as 16th player they all suddenly leave
21:19 <+wrtlprnft> or at least, at least 8 players leave within the duration of one match, without replacement
21:20 <z-man> Yeah, they like leave in packs.
21:20 <+wrtlprnft> usually it's because someone suggests sumo or something similar
21:21 <+wrtlprnft> there's too many people who just pop in to make ads
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21:21 <+wrtlprnft> z-man: no, i didn't try it, but it looks like a big mess to me, there might be assholes who just want to annoy everyone
21:22 <+wrtlprnft> though i have to admit i do the same
21:23 <+wrtlprnft> if there's a buch of idiots and someone like van/ghab/lucifer and then that person leaves i sometimes just press alt-f4
21:23 <Brooky> is anyone using xchat?
21:23 <+wrtlprnft> 21:23 CTCP VERSION reply from Brooky: xchat 2.6.5a Windows 5.0 [i686/996.00MHz]
21:24 <+wrtlprnft> no, and certanly not on a windows XP machine with 1000MHz
21:24 <Brooky> i dont understand
21:25 <Brooky> what do you mean?
21:25 <+wrtlprnft> basically i'm saying i don't use xchat, but i know you do
21:26 <+wrtlprnft> and xchat seems to be a bit too verbose in its version reply
21:26 <Brooky> im not on Xp
21:26 <Vanhayes> I use xchat, why?
21:26 <Brooky> Van
21:26 <+wrtlprnft> uh, windows 2000/NT then
21:26 <Vanhayes> Brooky
21:26 <Brooky> you know next to peoples names
21:27  * wrtlprnft doesn't know about wondows version numbers
21:27 <Brooky> what ate them coloured dots
21:27 <Brooky> are*
21:27 <Vanhayes> heh
21:27 <Vanhayes> didnt understand that at all
21:27 <Vanhayes> now I do
21:27 <Brooky> ok
21:27 <Brooky> what do they mean?
21:27 <Vanhayes> um there are no colored dots next to names on mine
21:28 <Brooky> oh
21:28 <+wrtlprnft> probably they're for modes
21:28 <Brooky> there are on mine
21:28 <Vanhayes> hmm 2.6.5?
21:28 <+wrtlprnft> let me guess, Lucifer_arma and me have a different color than you and Vanhayes?
21:28 <Brooky> yes
21:28 <+wrtlprnft> and armabot is the same as you two?
21:28 <+wrtlprnft> and guru3 has a totally different one?
21:28 <Brooky> guru has a green dot
21:28 <Vanhayes> o
21:28 <Vanhayes> it is ops and voice
21:29 <+wrtlprnft> guru3 is a channel operator
21:29 <Vanhayes> heh I thought u meant when they talked
21:29 <Brooky> cusco, luci, mk and wrtl have orange
21:29 <Vanhayes> I see the dots too
21:29 <+wrtlprnft> Brooky: that's because we're voiced
21:29 <Brooky> what does that mean?
21:29 <+wrtlprnft> guru3 did that in some sort of celebration, not that it means anything in this channel
21:29 <Brooky> Okies
21:29 <Vanhayes> orange=voiced green=chanel operator
21:29 <Brooky> thanks
21:29 <+wrtlprnft> Brooky: nothing, it only means we can talk if the channel is moderated, with it isn't
21:30 <Vanhayes> heh I think that happened when spidey and hellblade started having a one worded arguement which basically spammed the channel
21:30 <Brooky> ok
21:31 <+wrtlprnft> no
21:31 <+wrtlprnft> 21:23 CTCP VERSION reply from Brooky: xchat 2.6.5a Windows 5.0 [i686/996.00MHz]
21:31 <+wrtlprnft> 14:26 -!- mode/#armagetron [+vvv mkzelda cusco GodTodd] by guru3
21:31 <+wrtlprnft> 14:26 -!- mode/#armagetron [+vvv armabot Lucifer_arma wejp] by guru3
21:31 <+wrtlprnft> 14:26 -!- mode/#armagetron [+vvv wrtlprnft madmax|pt [Xpert]DarkStar] by guru3
21:31 <+wrtlprnft> 14:26 -!- mode/#armagetron [+vvv spidey [NP]Tangent SuPeRTaRD] by guru3
21:31 <+wrtlprnft> 14:26 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v deja_vu_] by guru3
21:31 <+wrtlprnft> 14:26 <@guru3> voices for everyone in celebration :D
21:31 <Vanhayes> er thatr was when I first saw the voice, it also made it so no one couldnt talk
21:31 <Vanhayes> er
21:32 <Brooky> brb
21:32 <+wrtlprnft> that's what he sometimes does, but not this time
21:32 <Brooky> 2mins
21:33 <Brooky> back
21:33 <Brooky> was he celebrating getting into uni?
21:35 <+wrtlprnft> yeah
21:35 <Brooky> cool
21:35 <Brooky> sheffield?
21:36 <Brooky> did he say?
21:36 <+Lucifer_arma> ok, found out why it's not loading the old handlers.  Working on it...
21:36 <+wrtlprnft> #realchatlogs
21:36 <armabot> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armalogs.txt
21:37 <Vanhayes> what exactally does making someone voiced do?
21:37 <Brooky> like a mod
21:38 <+wrtlprnft> Vanhayes: if the channel is moderated only voiced people can talk
21:38 <Vanhayes> thats it?
21:38 <+wrtlprnft> yeah
21:39 <Vanhayes> ok, thought they might get special privlidges or something
21:39 <+Lucifer_arma> it also empowers them to make decisions and to select those responsible and accountable for making decisions
21:39 <+Lucifer_arma> I HAVE A VOICE IN MY GOVERNMENT!
21:39 <+Lucifer_arma> er
21:39 <+Lucifer_arma> sorry
21:39  * Lucifer_arma goes back to code
21:40 <Brooky> lol
21:40 <+wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: you're just as special as 6 billion other people
21:40 <Brooky> that is one big chat log
21:40 <+wrtlprnft> yeah
21:41  * wrtlprnft needs to split it
21:41 <Brooky> #realchatlogs
21:41 <armabot> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armalogs.txt
21:41 <Brooky> huh
21:41 <Brooky> oops
21:41 <Brooky> ignore that
21:41 <+Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: no, I'm only as special as 200 million other people who, by proxy, also have a say in everyone else's government
21:41 <+Lucifer_arma> "Get a democracy ruled by corporations or the US will nuke your ass!"
21:42 <+wrtlprnft> true...
21:42 <+wrtlprnft> still, the US have the most stupid law system :P
21:42 <+Lucifer_arma> heh, some people are obsessed.  Check this out.
21:42 <Brooky> lol
21:43 <+Lucifer_arma> after class there was this guy talking to another guy, and he was explaining how there's a conspiracy that put demolition charges in the WTC
21:43 <+Lucifer_arma> and setup a remote air traffic control system to guide the airplanes
21:43 <Brooky> that is mad
21:44 <+Lucifer_arma> he figured this conspiracy somehow got some terrorists to hijack the planes, and used that as a front to set off the demolition charges
21:44 <Brooky> ok
21:44 <+Lucifer_arma> and thus demonstrated he doesn't know jack about architecture, physics, airplane navigation, and conspiracies
21:45 <Brooky> you know if you pay for hosting for a game server on a linux machine
21:45 <Brooky> how do i set it up
21:45 <Brooky> ?
21:45 <+Lucifer_arma> don't know, I've never payed for hosting a game server on a linux machine
21:45 <Brooky> Ok
21:45 <madmax|pt> saw the video about that Lucifer_arma ?
21:45 <Brooky> no
21:45 <+Lucifer_arma> madmax|pt: about what?
21:46 <+Lucifer_arma> the WTC I was just talking about?
21:46 <madmax|pt> yes
21:46 <madmax|pt> the... "conspiracy"
21:46 <+Lucifer_arma> no, overheard some kids at school talking about it
21:46 <+Lucifer_arma> thought it rated pretty highly up there in stupid crackpot conspiracies
21:47 <+Lucifer_arma> if you're going to be a crackpot, I guess you should try to be the dumbest crackpot of all, because smart crackpots get shuttled off by the government, sent to prison camps and whatnot
21:47 <madmax|pt> take a look at it some day
21:47 <madmax|pt> its on google video
21:47 <+Lucifer_arma> why?  If what I've just said is an accurate summary, then I can see it's a waste of my time :)
21:48 <Brooky> what is settings_web for?
21:48 <madmax|pt> are you sure?
21:48 <Brooky> and...
21:48 <Brooky> web_password?
21:48 <+Lucifer_arma> 1.  A conspiracy's chances of succeeding drop off dramatically as more people are brought into it.  It's not just complexity, it's the chance of being discovered and/or betrayed
21:48 <+Lucifer_arma> so that rules out the idea of having a small army of people setting demolition charges in a public building
21:48 <+Lucifer_arma> it also rules out the air traffic control thing
21:49 <+Lucifer_arma> because teh amount of complexity required by this conspiracy to do all that is waaaay too much
21:49 <+Lucifer_arma> if you consider that the implication is the Bush and/or some other evil people were at the top, why couldn't they just pay off al-qaida to do exactly what it appears they did?
21:49 <+Lucifer_arma> that would require 2 people max in the conspiracy, the american with the money, and Osama Bin Laden
21:50 <+Lucifer_arma> since that step is required anyway, all the rest of the stuff about demolition charges and air traffic control systems is just bs
21:50 <madmax|pt> i keep saying, its an interesting video, its not only the "traffic control" and "the demolition charges"
21:50 <+Lucifer_arma> if the conspiracists are so incompetent that they're doing all this other stuff too, it makes more sense that they'd have been caught before it happened than that they were successful
21:50 <madmax|pt> some more... at least odd... things are pointed out
21:51 <+Lucifer_arma> "at least odd" usually means "shows the crackpot doesn't understand physics, and has no clue how people who aren't antisocial actually interact with each other"
21:52 <madmax|pt> just dont judge it before seing it
21:52 <+Lucifer_arma> too late.  If it says "crackpot" on it, it's already discredited to me.
21:52 <+Lucifer_arma> that's why I didn't waste my time with Fahrenheit 9/11 :)
21:53 <+Lucifer_arma> Brooky: that stuff is for the embedded web server that's in 0.3.0
21:54 <madmax|pt> I think you fit in my american stereotype
21:55 <madmax|pt> you think Fahrenheit 9/11 is just a bunch of crap?
21:56 <+Lucifer_arma> no, I think Michael Moore is a crackpot
21:56 <@guru3> Brooky: yes sheffield
21:56 <+Lucifer_arma> I haven't seen Fahrenheit 9/11 because I think MM is a crackpot
21:57 <Brooky> what does it do and what can i do with it?
21:57  * madmax|pt just learned what a crackpot is thanks to google
21:57 <+Lucifer_arma> Brooky: the whole point of the embedded webserver is that it gives a way to serve up resources from the game server directly
21:57 <Vanhayes> I liked bowling for colombine but  Fahrenheit 9/11 was pretty bad because even I thought it was biased
21:58 <madmax|pt> Bowling for colombine is pretty good
21:58 <+Lucifer_arma> Bowling for Columbine was interesting.  It was at least not politically charged, trying to sway an election.
21:58 <Brooky> directly to what?
21:58 <+Lucifer_arma> but it still went like "I'm a crackpot" for the most part
21:58 <+Lucifer_arma> Brooky: directly to players playing on the server?
21:58 <Brooky> ok
21:58 <Vanhayes> like when moore asked that senator to sign his kid up for the army, that was just too much
21:58 <Brooky> thanks
21:58 <+Lucifer_arma> try enabling the webserver, then go to localhost:4550/resource
21:59 <Brooky> can you guys check if my server is working
21:59 <Brooky> its called
21:59 <Brooky> element clan server
21:59 <+Lucifer_arma> well, I'd support a law that had a "vote of war confidence" thing, where if a war is going bad, we can vote to send the President directly to lead it and give him a time limit in which to win and bring our troops back
22:00 <+Lucifer_arma> so isnted of arguing over whether or not the war is going bad, or if it was a good idea, or any of that, we can just say "Bush, go fight your own war, you've got 1 year and then we're pulling everyone out"
22:00 <+wrtlprnft> if you send him to the place where the war is happening there's no need for a limit
22:01 <+wrtlprnft> or her, in theory
22:01 <Lackadaisical> that wouldve been a bit useless in the war on terrorism since you can never really win against terror
22:01 <+Lucifer_arma> it would be very useful in Iraq right now :)
22:01 <Brooky> got to go
22:01  * Lucifer_arma points out that the american reaction to the terrorist attacks is more or less the reaction that ws desired
22:01 <Brooky> cya
22:01 <Vanhayes> Im saying that if he had asked the senator to sign himself up id be fine with that but to sign up his son? is that even legal?
22:01 <Brooky> bye
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22:01 <+Lucifer_arma> we were flamebaited, and we responded with flames.  We suck.
22:01 <+wrtlprnft> place bush in iraq, tell everyone where he is located, and wait until the problem solves itself
22:02 <madmax|pt> ws?
22:02 <Lackadaisical> Lucifer_arma: are you planning to make the wiki less eyeclashing on iexplorer?
22:02 <+wrtlprnft> pfft
22:02 <Vanhayes> you can change the way it looks I think
22:03 <+wrtlprnft> can't we have some png with a red font saying IE sucks as background? give the font an opacity of 1% and set the background color to red, but make everything else 100% transparent
22:04 <+wrtlprnft> the result will be that it will only appear in IE
22:04 <+Lucifer_arma> Lackadaisical: I'm planning on putting that stuff into svn so people who have real problems with it can fix it/send patches :)
22:05 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50873221.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)]
22:05 <Lackadaisical> i would send a patch, but i dont know what svn is
22:05 <+wrtlprnft> from <something@mail.ru>
22:05 <+wrtlprnft> setting out? You  can beat  these eggheads over the  head with a two-by-four
22:05 <+wrtlprnft> done well, at no expense to tension and suspense. "Well,  I don't subscribe  to that  point of view. And as for  specific The young gulls looked at him quizzically. Hey,  man,  they  thought,
22:05 <+wrtlprnft> i don't get that one
22:05 <+Lucifer_arma> right now I'm trying to fix the CIA plugin to armabot so we can get the other updating going on again reliably
22:05 <+Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: view it as html
22:06 <+wrtlprnft> i do
22:06 <+Lucifer_arma> hmmm, another incompetent spammer?
22:06 <+Lucifer_arma> Lackadaisical: I'll dig up a link to a graphical svn client or something.  svn = subversion, it's where we keep source code we work on.  :)
22:06 <+wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.pastebin.ca/86361
22:06 <+wrtlprnft> that's all there is to that mail
22:06 <+wrtlprnft> X-UIDL: _!O"!*-<"!QF8"!G?l"!
22:07 <+wrtlprnft> wtf is that?
22:15 <+wrtlprnft> xorg 7 broke bzflag it seems.
22:15 <+wrtlprnft> infact it broke almost everything and i don't see any benefits...
22:16 <+Lucifer_arma> I can't help you, emerge kde breaks on a boilerplate konqueror plugin
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22:37 <+wrtlprnft> darn config file
22:38 <+wrtlprnft> why does this thing have to have a random seed in the config file whose fefault changes for every update?
22:38 <+wrtlprnft> err
22:38 <+wrtlprnft> darn kdm
22:38 <+wrtlprnft> a sign i should go to bed
22:38 <+Lucifer_arma> ?
22:44 <+Lucifer_arma> #reload CIA
22:44 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
22:45 <+Lucifer_arma> #reload CIA
22:45 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
22:46 <+Lucifer_arma> #reload CIA
22:46 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: There was no plugin CIA.
22:46 <+Lucifer_arma> #load CIA
22:46 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
22:47 <+Lucifer_arma> #load CIA
22:47 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
22:48 <+Lucifer_arma> #load CIA
22:48 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
22:50  * wrtlprnft suggests Lucifer_arma to check his logs
22:50 <+Lucifer_arma> what logs?
22:50 <+Lucifer_arma> supybot logs?
22:51 <luke-jr_> Lackadaisical: wtf? I thought you were a web designer...
22:52 <Lackadaisical> huh what?
22:52 <Lackadaisical> i can't think of iexplorer users because i'm a webdesigner?
22:52 <+wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: for me wrtlbot logged a backtrace when there was an error in the plugin
22:53 <luke-jr_> well, you complained about IE's horrible rendering as if it were the fault of the page
22:53 <+Lucifer_arma> aha, those logs.  Yeah, I'm tailing them :)
22:53 <luke-jr_> Why bother? Just say your site requires a web-browser
22:53 <+Lucifer_arma> #load CIA
22:53 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
22:53 <luke-jr_> which IE doesn't qualify for
22:54 <Lackadaisical> that doesn't mean alot of people still use it as one
22:54 <+wrtlprnft> it's an opensource game, use a browser that has at least the quality of firefox
22:54 <+wrtlprnft> which isn't a high standard
22:54 <Lackadaisical> and the wiki already uses conditional comments to fix things for iexplorer
22:54 <+Lucifer_arma> our audience consists of people that play computer games, not necessarily geeky kids that like to spout off about how the world is <this> even though it's really <that>
22:55 <luke-jr_> shrug, my solution would be to throw up a "Download a web browser here: <links>"
22:55 <+Lucifer_arma> that's not a solution, that's called "passing the buck"
22:55 <luke-jr_> no, it's called informing users of requirements and expecting them to meet it
22:55 <+Lucifer_arma> or, in layman's terms, "It's not my problem, and I don't care about your problems"
22:56 <luke-jr_> "It's not my problem; here's how you can fix yours"
22:56 <+Lucifer_arma> see luke-jr_ , you're one of those geeky kids that like to spout off about how the world is <this> even though it's really <that>
22:56 <luke-jr_> nonsense
22:56 <+Lucifer_arma> more of the same
22:56 <+Lucifer_arma> it's true, you think the earth is the center of the universe
22:56 <luke-jr_> it is
22:57 <luke-jr_> and you can't disprove it, so don't complain
22:57 <+Lucifer_arma> I shouldn't have to.  Your church put on trial the man that did disprove it
22:57 <luke-jr_> he didn't disprove anything
22:57 <+Lucifer_arma> was it your state that tried to pass the law that defined pi as int(3) ?
22:57 <luke-jr_> no clue
22:58 <luke-jr_> just moved here a year ago
22:58 <luke-jr_> I know this state is the only one that doesn't donate money to have children murdered
22:59 <+Lucifer_arma> they take kids away from their parents, though, and stick 'em in the home of abusive sexual predators
22:59 <+Lucifer_arma> all the states do that, it's called "protecting children"
22:59 <luke-jr_> no surprise
22:59 <luke-jr_> but like you said, they all do it
23:00 <+Lucifer_arma> #load CIA
23:00 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
23:01 <+Lucifer_arma> #load CIA
23:01 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
23:01 <+Lucifer_arma> #load CIA
23:01 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
23:03 <+Lucifer_arma> #load CIA
23:03 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
23:03 <+Lucifer_arma> holy shit, it worked!
23:03 <+Lucifer_arma> er, so far anyway
23:03 <+Lucifer_arma> #listhandlers
23:03 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: No handlers defined!
23:04 <+Lucifer_arma> #addhandler
23:04 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: (addhandler <channel> <shortname> <searchstring> <actiontype> <action>) -- Adds a new handler for commit messages. Actiontype specifies what type of action to do. Currently only "echo" and "cmd" are supported.
23:04 <+Lucifer_arma> #addhandler commitnotify armagetronad echo $message
23:04 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
23:06 <+Lucifer_arma> #load CIA
23:06 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: Cia is already loaded.
23:06 <+Lucifer_arma> #reload CIA
23:06 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
23:06 <+Lucifer_arma> #addhandler commitnotify armagetronad echo $message
23:06 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
23:09 <+Lucifer_arma> #wtf TMTOWTDI
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23:09 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: TMTOWTDI: nothing appropriate
23:12 <+Lucifer_arma> #reload CIA
23:13 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
23:13 <+Lucifer_arma> #addhandler commitnotify armagetronad echo $message
23:13 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
23:13 <+Lucifer_arma> #flush
23:13 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
23:14 <+Lucifer_arma> #reload CIA
23:14 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
23:14 <+Lucifer_arma> #addhandler commitnotify armagetronad echo $message
23:14 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
23:17 <+Lucifer_arma> #reload CIA
23:17 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
23:17 <+Lucifer_arma> #unload CIA
23:17 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: There was no plugin CIA.
23:17 -!- madmax|pt [n=madmax@bl5-9-18.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
23:17 -!- armabot [n=armabot@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
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23:18 <+Lucifer_arma> #load CIA
23:18 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
23:19 <+Lucifer_arma> aha, I suspected as much
23:19 -!- armabot [n=armabot@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
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23:20 <+Lucifer_arma> #load CIA
23:20 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: Cia is already loaded.
23:20 <+Lucifer_arma> #addhandler commitnotify armagetronad echo $message
23:20 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
23:21 <+Lucifer_arma> #listhandlers
23:21 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: commitnotify
23:21 <armabot> armagetronad: davidfancella * r5671 /support/armabot/trunk/plugins/CIA/config.py: more config stuff
23:21 <+Lucifer_arma> #flush
23:21 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
23:21 <armabot>  armagetronad: davidfancella * r5671 /support/armabot/trunk/plugins/CIA/config.py: more config stuff
23:21 <armabot> armagetronad: davidfancella * r5671 /support/armabot/trunk/plugins/CIA/config.py: more config stuff (Lucifer is dumb)
23:22 <armabot> armagetronad: davidfancella * r5671 /support/armabot/trunk/plugins/CIA/config.py: more config stuff (he has other ways to test)
23:22 <armabot> armagetronad but maybe it was more than a test!
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23:30  * spidey yawns
23:30 <[Xpert]DarkStar> then go to sleep
23:33 <spidey> i done slept
23:33 <spidey> long ass time
23:33 <[Xpert]DarkStar> what is your localtime=
23:33 <[Xpert]DarkStar> ?
23:33 <spidey> 5:33pm
23:33 <[Xpert]DarkStar> mmm k
23:34 <spidey> just wooke up :p
23:34 <[Xpert]DarkStar> 11:34 pm here
23:34 <+wrtlprnft> here too
23:34 <spidey> O_
23:34 <spidey> O_o
23:34 <+wrtlprnft> o_O
23:34 <+wrtlprnft> _o
23:34 <spidey> O_o
23:34 <armabot> armagetronad: davidfancella * r5672 /support/armabot/trunk/plugins/CIA/plugin.py: more config stuff
23:35 <+wrtlprnft> #listhandlers
23:35 <armabot> wrtlprnft: commitnotify
23:35 <+Lucifer_arma> #reload CIA
23:35 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
23:35 <+Lucifer_arma> wtf?
23:35 <spidey> heh
23:35 <+wrtlprnft> uh
23:35 <+wrtlprnft> if the handler doesn't work, will armabot update?
23:36 <+Lucifer_arma> #load CIA
23:36 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
23:36 <+Lucifer_arma> what a dipshit
23:36 <spidey> lol
23:36 <+Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: there's no armabot update handler yet, I'm still making the thing work :)
23:36  * wrtlprnft thought Lucifer_arma loved python so much
23:36 <+wrtlprnft> well
23:36  * Lucifer_arma wonders what this has to do with python
23:36 <+wrtlprnft> if the handler doesn't work, how's armabot gonna be updated?
23:37 <+Lucifer_arma> #load CIA
23:37 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
23:37 <+Lucifer_arma> #listhandlers
23:37 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: commitnotify
23:38 <armabot> armagetronad: davidfancella * r5675 /support/armabot/trunk/plugins/CIA/config.py: removed spurious comment to test stuff
23:38 <+Lucifer_arma> thanks luke-jr_ for finding that bug for me
23:38 <+Lucifer_arma> now it checks the nick before doing the string matching
23:38 <+wrtlprnft> can normal people talk in #commits?
23:38 <+Lucifer_arma> yeah
23:39 <+wrtlprnft> i was assuming the room was moderated
23:39 <+Lucifer_arma> luke found that he could type "armagetronad something" and armabot would say "something" here
23:39 <+wrtlprnft> with only CIA-* being voiced
23:41 <+Lucifer_arma> #addhandler
23:41 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: (addhandler <channel> <shortname> <searchstring> <actiontype> <action>) -- Adds a new handler for commit messages. Actiontype specifies what type of action to do. Currently only "echo" and "cmd" are supported.
23:42 <+Lucifer_arma> #addhandler armabotupdater /support/armabot cmd /home/supybot/bin/updatearmabot
23:42 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
23:43 <+Lucifer_arma> #flush
23:43 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
23:43 <spidey> gah
23:43 <spidey> i forgot my address
23:43 <armabot> armagetronad: davidfancella * r5676 /support/armabot/trunk/plugins/CIA/plugin.py: added spurious comment to test stuff
23:43 <armabot>  Executed 'armabotupdater'
23:44 <spidey> [0] Warning in REAL sn_SendPlanned1() in ../../builds/b_0.2.8.2/B1/armagetronad- :
23:44 <spidey>         [0] Timer hickup!
23:44 <+Lucifer_arma> now what was the command to update aabeta?
23:44 <spidey> what's that?
23:44 <+Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_: what's the command you want me to run to update aabeta?
23:45 <+Lucifer_arma> so, if you are currently experiencing hiccups, do you say "I'm hiccing up" or "I'm hiccupping"?
23:46 <spidey> ......
23:47 <spidey> i dunno what you're talking about,but i copied that outta the tron terminal O_o
23:48 <+Lucifer_arma> so, let's say I have a directory called "wiki", and it's full of mediawiki
23:49 <+Lucifer_arma> and I have a directory in svn that contains a tree that's structured the same as mediawiki, but only contains certain files, not the whole installation
23:49 <+Lucifer_arma> can I svn co the directory into my directory "wiki", or does svn require the directory not yet exist?
23:50 <spidey> dunno,i don't use svn :p
23:50 <+Lucifer_arma> a more important question is "Do we want mediawiki in our own svn repo?"
23:50 <+Lucifer_arma> because if the answer to that is "yes", then my first question is obsolete
23:52 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #night
23:52 <armabot> Good night [Xpert]DarkStar!

Log from 2006-07-13:
--- Day changed Thu Jul 13 2006
00:01 <spidey> ok
00:01 <spidey> if i fuck this up,i'll bbl with a raw debian install
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00:09 <spidey> yay
00:09 <spidey> i upgraded X without breaking it xD
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00:15 <spidey> :>
00:15 <spidey> Xorg > 6.8 that means a newer version of it right?
00:15 <+Lucifer_arma> #list ChannelLogger
00:15 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: That plugin exists, but has no commands.  This probably means that it has some configuration variables that can be changed in order to modify its behavior.  Try "config list supybot.plugins.ChannelLogger" to see what configuration variables it has.
00:16 <+Lucifer_arma> #config list supybot.plugins.ChannelLogger
00:16 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: #filenameTimestamp, #noLogPrefix, #rotateLogs, #stripFormatting, @#timestamp, @directories, flushImmediately, and public
00:18 <luke-jr_> Jun 26 10:25:04 <Lucifer_arma>  #addhandler #armagetron aabetaupdate "/www/beta" cmd nohup ssh armagetronad@aabeta.dashjr.org "/var/www/armagetron/beta/scripts/updateme $message" &
00:18 <+Lucifer_arma> #addhandler #armagetron aabetaupdate "/www/beta" cmd nohup ssh armagetronad@aabeta.dashjr.org "/var/www/armagetron/beta/scripts/updateme $message" &
00:18 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
00:18 <+Lucifer_arma> thanks luke-jr_ 
00:19 <luke-jr_> np
00:19  * Lucifer_arma was just grepping his logs looking for it
00:19 <+Lucifer_arma> #flush
00:19 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
00:22 <armabot> armagetronad: davidfancella * r5677 /www/wiki/ (. branches/ tags/ trunk/): Adding wiki directory tree
00:27 <armabot> armagetronad: davidfancella * r5678 /www/wiki/trunk/ (LocalSettings.php extensions/ extensions/README): Adding some wiki files
00:27 <armabot> armagetronad: davidfancella * r5679 /www/wiki/trunk/skins/: added skins directory
00:28 <+wrtlprnft> wow, the repository must be huge now
00:29 <+Lucifer_arma> I'm only adding individual files right now
00:29 <armabot> armagetronad: davidfancella * r5680 /www/wiki/trunk/skins/ (27 files in 2 dirs): Added armagetronad skin
00:29 <+wrtlprnft> 9 more messages and we are on the front page!
00:29 <+Lucifer_arma> I'll keep working :)
00:29 <+Lucifer_arma> what file is the login hack you did in?
00:29 <+Lucifer_arma> or should I just add the whole wiki source?
00:29 <+wrtlprnft> uh
00:29 <+wrtlprnft> something in special/
00:30 <+wrtlprnft> sec
00:30 <+Lucifer_arma> I don't see a special directory
00:31 <+wrtlprnft> includes/SpecialUserlogin.php
00:31 <+wrtlprnft> includes/templates/Userlogin.php
00:31 <+wrtlprnft> both of them
00:32 <+Lucifer_arma> I'm tempted to just bring in the whole wiki source
00:32 <+wrtlprnft> do what you wish... you're the only admin awake right now i guess
00:32 <+Lucifer_arma> apparently, heh
00:33 <+wrtlprnft> z-man might be too
00:33 <+wrtlprnft> so do it fast before he looks in here
00:33 <spidey> firefox's pop-up blocker sucks :/
00:33 <+wrtlprnft> ;)
00:34 <armabot> armagetronad: davidfancella * r5681 /www/wiki/trunk/includes/ (173 files in 4 dirs): Added includes directory, obviously.
00:37 <+Lucifer_arma> wtf?  I chmodded so the supybot user can use the svn sandbox, but it can't update?!?
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00:46 <+wrtlprnft> #night
00:46 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
00:46 <+Lucifer_arma> #addhandler wikiupdater /www/wiki cmd /home/supybot/bin/updatewiki
00:46 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
00:48 <spidey> O_o gimp's better than photoshop
00:48 <armabot> armagetronad: davidfancella * r5682 /www/wiki/trunk/LocalSettings.php: Testing wiki updater
00:48 <armabot>  Executed 'wikiupdater'
00:48 <+Lucifer_arma> yay, I broke it
00:49 <spidey> that's my line!
00:50 <armabot> armagetronad: davidfancella * r5683 /www/wiki/trunk/LocalSettings.php: Testing wiki updater
00:50 <armabot>  Executed 'wikiupdater'
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00:55 <+Lucifer_arma> where do I get this magical setuid program?
00:59 <spidey> ??
01:01 -!- GodTodd_ is now known as GodTodd
01:08 <+Lucifer_arma> how do I get svn to leave the permissions on a file alone?
01:10 <armabot> armagetronad: davidfancella * r5684 /www/wiki/trunk/LocalSettings.php: removing database settings
01:10 <armabot>  Executed 'wikiupdater'
01:11 <armabot> armagetronad: davidfancella * r5685 /www/wiki/trunk/includes/Article.php: Test for armabot
01:11 <armabot>  Executed 'wikiupdater'
01:14 <armabot> armagetronad: davidfancella * r5686 /www/wiki/trunk/ArmaSettings.php: Added ArmaSettings.php
01:14 <armabot>  Executed 'wikiupdater'
01:17 <armabot> armagetronad: davidfancella * r5687 /www/wiki/trunk/ (ArmaSettings.php includes/Article.php): Removed DatabaseSettings.php include, it's not used anymore
01:17 <armabot>  Executed 'wikiupdater'
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01:22 <+Lucifer_arma> well, we'll see how well that works out
01:25 <spidey> 'er
01:25 <spidey> i updated xorg and my fps in tron broke
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01:58 <spidey> wrtlprnft, did you ever fix your fps problem from upgrading the X server?
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02:37 <spidey> mommmmmy
02:38 <Your_mom_arma> hi
02:38 <spidey> omg
02:38 <spidey> x upgrade = fucked up
02:38  * spidey downloads raw debian
02:39 <spidey> mmm
02:39 <spidey> maybe i should restart X
02:39 <spidey> brb
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02:47 <Stewie-arma> hello
02:48 <Your_mom_arma> hi
02:48 <Stewie-arma> how goes it?
02:48 <Your_mom_arma> fine
02:48 <Stewie-arma> svick
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02:50 <Stewie-arma> hey spidizzey
02:50 <spidey> yo
02:51 <Stewie-arma> whatcha doin?
02:53 <spidey> fuckin with tron
02:53 <Stewie-arma> your fucking a program?
02:53 <spidey> :/
02:54 <spidey> no,i updated the X server then my fps dropped to 16
02:54 <Stewie-arma> genious
02:54 <spidey> so i changed some setting...managed to keep a good look but also get my fps up to 30
02:54 <spidey> if i can figure out which pacakge i need i usually get 80-90 here lately
02:55 <Stewie-arma> my fps now is aroung 120-110
02:55 <spidey> O_o
02:55 <Stewie-arma> which is funny seeing as it is usually 20-30
02:55 <spidey> o_O
02:56 <spidey> mine's usually 59 steady
02:56 <spidey> but after the last release of .3 i think i started getting 80-90
02:57  * spidey stabs mepis for not having 7.0.2 x server default
03:00 <Stewie-arma> that's not nice
03:01 <Stewie-arma> why did the shark attack you?
03:01 <Stewie-arma> where you taunting the shark
03:01 <spidey> huh?
03:10 <Stewie-arma> dane cook dude
03:19 <spidey> mmmmm
03:19 <spidey> it's time to play
03:19  * spidey uninstalls every signle package in synaptic
03:20 <spidey> actually
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03:24 <luke-jr_> BitTorrent needs to support chatting...
03:24 <luke-jr_> "you guys know we can't get more than 59% of this file?"
03:25 <luke-jr_> "any plans to solve the missing seed?"
03:25  * luke-jr_ is glad he waits to do big upgrades-- now he knows to avoid X 7
03:27 <spidey> ?
03:28 <spidey> i think it's just a missing package
03:28 <spidey> but i can't figure out which one :/
03:29 <spidey> mmmm
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03:59 <+Lucifer_arma> that spicy chicken is fucking awesome
03:59 <spidey_> growl
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04:04 <spidey> vnc sucks over lan
04:08 <+Lucifer_arma> not if its on a mac
04:08 <+Lucifer_arma> nemostultae: the aabetaupdate is working again, and will hopefully not break for awhile this time
04:09 <nemostultae> Lucifer_arma: thanks
04:09 <+Lucifer_arma> yw :)
04:09 <+Lucifer_arma> there's also some wiki stuff in there in case you feel the urge to hack the wiki
04:10 <nemostultae> I wasn't able to login in to the wiki in OmniWeb because of the spamfix. Maybe I'll take a look at that.
04:10 <spidey> ahahah
04:11 <+Lucifer_arma> you just need to checkout /www/wiki/trunk iirc, and commit, armabot will update the wiki automatically on the commit message, just like it updates aabeta
04:11 <spidey> me and anjori where joking about something and used the name jolinux
04:11 <spidey> that's actually a distro :/
04:11 <+Lucifer_arma> I had some permissions problems, so you might encounter that.  Let me know if you see it asap so I can fix it.
04:11  * Lucifer_arma wants anjori to build Anjorix
04:11 <spidey> lol
04:12 <spidey> ftp://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/  <<< lots of distros i've never heard of
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04:12 <Lizz> hiya guys
04:12 <nemostultae> oops, wrong window
04:12 <spidey> anyone hear of gobolinux? lol
04:12 <+Lucifer_arma> hi Lizz 
04:12 <Lizz> spider?
04:12 <spidey> lizz?
04:12 <Lizz> shiya luceeeeee
04:12 <nemostultae> nemo?
04:12 <+Lucifer_arma> isn't that fraggle rock linux?
04:12 <+Lucifer_arma> cusco?
04:12 <spidey> dunno
04:12 <Lizz> can u tell me which folder in the 0.3.0 ver has ur nic in it?
04:13 <spidey> none?
04:13 <Lizz> >.<
04:13 <+Lucifer_arma> only if you tell me what "ur nic" is supposed to mean
04:13 <+Lucifer_arma> #dict ur
04:13 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: easton, wn, gcide, and hitchcock responded: hitchcock: Ur, fire, light, a valley; gcide: Ur \Ur\, Ure \Ure\, n. (Zool.) The urus. [1913 Webster]; wn: Ur n : an ancient city of Sumer located on a former channel of the Euphrates River; gcide: Urus \U"rus\, n. [L.; of Teutonic origin. See {Aurochs}.] (Zool.) A very large, powerful, and savage extinct bovine animal ({Bos (10 more messages)
04:13 <Lizz> name
04:13 <+Lucifer_arma> #dict nic
04:13 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: foldoc and vera responded: vera: NIC Numeric Intensive Computing; vera: NIC Network Interface Card / Controller; vera: NIC Network Information Center (Internet, org.); foldoc: NIC 1. <networking> {Network Information Center}. 2. <hardware> {Network Interface Card}. (1996-02-13)
04:13 <spidey> lol?
04:13 <+Lucifer_arma> I was right!  That sentence didn't make any sense at all
04:13 <Lizz> settings or visual settings?
04:13 <spidey> ????
04:13 <nemostultae> neither, user.cfg
04:14 <Lizz> ok ty one sec
04:14 <spidey> nononono
04:14 <+Lucifer_arma> isn't it user_030.cfg or something like that?
04:14 <spidey> use autoexec.cfg
04:14 <spidey> it's easier
04:14 <nemostultae> oh, yea
04:14 <+Lucifer_arma> to avoid clobbering settings from the stable release :)
04:14 <spidey> just add player_1 <name>
04:14 <nemostultae> just put "PLAYER_1 somename" in autoexec.cfg
04:14 <spidey> ??
04:14 <nemostultae> ??
04:14 <spidey> i saw this
04:14 <Lizz> erm
04:14 <spidey> nemostultae just put "PLAYER_1 somename" in autoexec.cfg
04:15 <+Lucifer_arma> nemostultae: tell me about the script you have that sets a new name every time you start arma
04:15 <spidey> blocks with 0's inside
04:15 <+Lucifer_arma> please :)
04:15 <nemostultae> your client doesn't support UTF8
04:15 <spidey> oh
04:15 <nemostultae> it just takes a word out of /usr/share/dict/words
04:15 <+Lucifer_arma> no, how does it do the deed?
04:16 <nemostultae> oh, let me dig it up.
04:16 <+Lucifer_arma> do you just wrap arma, or do you have a hack for it?
04:16 <nemostultae> I wrap arma.
04:17 <+Lucifer_arma> oh fuck.  I just scratched the inside of my nose, but I haven't washed my hands since I cut the jalapenos
04:18 <nemostultae> http://pastie.caboo.se/4403
04:18 <nemostultae> that would be it.
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04:23 <+Lucifer_arma> thanks.  so you just write a new autoexec.cfg when you start, that's easy enough :)
04:23 <nemostultae> Actually it just replaces the PLAYER_1 in there.
04:23 <nemostultae> and COLOR_ stuff
04:24  * spidey puts vmware on his windows box to test distros before installing them
04:26 <nemostultae> I love the names it comes up with sometimes
04:26 <+Lucifer_arma> so I have to make an autoexec.cfg with that stuff in it, then?  ;)
04:26 <nemostultae> yes, you need PLAYER_1 and stuff in there
04:27 <+Lucifer_arma> I just discovered that I haven't installed and run arma since I rebuilt this computer, so I don't have ~/.armagetronad yet
04:27 <+Lucifer_arma> I've been running from a build directory, heh
04:27 <spidey> ........
04:27 <spidey> root@fbi.gov[/usr/share/dict]$ ls
04:27 <spidey> words
04:27 <spidey> root@fbi.gov[/usr/share/dict]$ cat words
04:27 <spidey> cat: words: No such file or directory
04:27 <spidey> root@fbi.gov[/usr/share/dict]$ cd words
04:27 <spidey> -su: cd: words: No such file or directory
04:28 <spidey> "/
04:28 <spidey> :/
04:28 <nemostultae> words is a file
04:28 <spidey> says it's not :(
04:28 <nemostultae> what is in that directory?
04:28 <spidey> read the post?
04:29 <nemostultae> so nothing is in dict/
04:29 <spidey> yes
04:29 <spidey> words is in dict
04:29 <spidey> ls says that
04:29 <spidey> ^^^
04:29 <nemostultae> oops, missed the cat
04:29 <nemostultae> words is a link to web2 on my machine
04:30 <spidey> oh
04:32 <nemostultae> web2a has some good ones, too. Too long for arma names, though
04:32 <spidey> mm
04:32 <+Lucifer_arma> well, I was going to write up a quick python script to do the name picking, so I can use my own names :)
04:32 <spidey> so just make a autoexec.cfg with those 12 lines?
04:33 <+Lucifer_arma> ?  You save the script nemo gave and adapt it for linux (of course), and instead of typing "armagetronad" to play, you type the name of that script instead
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04:34 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
04:34 <armabot> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (11 players) || XzL. Clan "The Server" (5 players) || Swampland in 2.7.1 (3 players) || ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Arena {100MBit} (2 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (2 players) || Norm's Place (2 players) || race server (random maps, disable moviepack) (1 players) || 1V1 Sumo Arena (1 players) || ~}SD{~ Clan Sever *FoC* (0 players) || (1 more message)
04:34 <Vanhayes> #more
04:34 <armabot> Vanhayes: M0rph1umDuckz D3d1cat3d HUN (Linux, CET 17:00-06:00) (0 players) || Lobster Cage Redux (0 players) || OOPS-CLAN-SERVER (0 players) || SniperRace (Testversion) (0 players) || RaceToWinzone (Testversion) (0 players) || Luke-Jr's Experimental Test Server (0 players)
04:35 <+Lucifer_arma> python -c "import random; print random.randint(0,15)"  <--- here's the random color part in python, in case you don't have ruby installed
04:36 <spidey> i got ruby
04:39 <spidey> actually
04:39 <spidey> it looks like that should work for me like it is,just change the paths
04:39 <nemostultae> and the open part at the end.
04:40 <spidey> i can use open to start a program,just need to change that path to
04:40 <nemostultae> sometimes it chooses a name too long for arma, which I should probably fix.
04:41 <spidey> mmm
04:44 <+Lucifer_arma> sed -i .bak  <--- what's .bak ?
04:44 <spidey> backup?
04:44 <+Lucifer_arma> ahhh, backup extension?
04:44 <nemostultae> yea
04:44 <nemostultae> -i is inplace edit
04:46 <+Lucifer_arma> what's the "extended" range of colors, if you want a lame cycle that's a different color than your wall?
04:46 <+Lucifer_arma> is that just [0,31] ?
04:47 <nemostultae> I just use negative numbers when I want a funky color
04:48 <nemostultae> -current_color_value keeps your base color mostly.
04:48 <nemostultae> atleast for pink
04:52 <spidey> wtf
04:52 <+Lucifer_arma> sed: can't read .bak: No such file or directory
04:52 <spidey> for somereason firefox got the wild urge to save it in /tmp/
04:52 <spidey> and won't put it on desktop ><
04:53 <nemostultae> maybe take out the space, -i.bak
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04:55 <+Lucifer_arma> http://pastie.caboo.se/4407 <--- here's with my change
04:55 <+Lucifer_arma> you need the little python program I just wrote, though
04:57 <spidey> lucifer,anyreason i can't put it on my desktop? 
04:57 <+Lucifer_arma> http://pastie.caboo.se/4408  <--- the python program.  Change the path to suit, create ~/.armagetronad/var/namelist.txt or whatever it says in the file
04:57 <spidey> it keeps saving it here
04:57 <spidey> /home/spidey/.kde/share/apps/RecentDocuments/arma.sh.desktop
04:57 <+Lucifer_arma> well, I copied it into a text editor and saved it from there
04:57 <+Lucifer_arma> that's a link, that's not the file
04:57 <spidey> yea
04:57 <spidey> i'm using kwrite
04:57 <spidey> i try to save at /home/spidey/Desktop
04:58 <spidey> it doesn't
04:58 <+Lucifer_arma> well, I put both of them in some directory under my home directory, chmod uga+x to both of them, then copied them to /usr/local/bin
04:59 <spidey> oh
04:59 <spidey> here it is
04:59 <spidey> /tmp/arma.sh
04:59 <+Lucifer_arma> sudo cp /tmp/arma.sh /usr/local/bin/
04:59 <+Lucifer_arma> :)
05:00 <+Lucifer_arma> http://pastie.caboo.se/4409  <--- use this for the python program, it doesn't require editing
05:01 <spidey> Error: Error in bool sr_InitDisplay() in ../../builds/b_0.3.0/B1/armagetronad-0.3.0/src/render/rScreen.cpp:738 :
05:01 <spidey> Sorry, played all my cards trying to initialize your video system.
05:01 <spidey> Armagetron Advanced won't run on your computer. Reason:
05:01 <spidey> Couldn't set video mode: OpenGL not available
05:01 <spidey> I'll try again from the beginning, but the chances of success are minimal.
05:01 <spidey> ERRRRRRRR
05:01 <spidey> xlibmesa-gl i'm guessing i need that right?
05:01  * Lizz sings
05:02 <spidey> but it won't install from synaptic
05:02  * Your_mom_arma note cycle_turn_speed
05:02 <Your_mom_arma> _factor 1.2 causes arma wierdness
05:02 <+Lucifer_arma> yay.  thanks nemo.  :)
05:04 <+Lucifer_arma> now I just need my big emerge to finish so I can play for awhile
05:05 <Your_mom_arma> whats the alias command for tell later?
05:06 <spidey> m
05:06 <spidey> ?
05:06 <spidey> #help m
05:06 <armabot> spidey: (m <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "message $*".
05:06 <spidey> close enough
05:06 <Your_mom_arma> #list alias
05:06 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: add, bug, ch, chatlog, digg, dotdotdot, g, gcalc, goodbye, hello, insight, lock, log, log, m, man, message, mfaq, morning, night, q, realchatlogs, remove, svn, unlock, and wikipedia
05:06 <spidey> #help message
05:06 <armabot> spidey: (message <an alias, 2 arguments>) -- Alias for "later tell $1 $2".
05:06 <spidey> yea
05:06 <spidey> it's m
05:08 <+Lucifer_arma> #message Your_mom_arma hi there
05:08 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
05:08 <Your_mom_arma> #message luke-jr_ i crashed your server by accident when messing with cycle_turn_speed_factor
05:08 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: The operation succeeded.
05:08 <spidey> mmm
05:09 <spidey> i wonder if i can make that work on windows
05:09 <+Lucifer_arma> the only way that comes to mind is to use cygwin
05:09 <+Lucifer_arma> but that's a big hog to install just to have a random name changer
05:09  * spidey has cygwin
05:09 <+Lucifer_arma> well then, what I gave you should work almost unmodified :)
05:09 <spidey> i've already got it :)
05:09 <+Lucifer_arma> just pu the path to the armagetronad binary and you're fine
05:10 <+Lucifer_arma> cygwin path, that is
05:10 <spidey> actually
05:10 <+Lucifer_arma>  /cygdrive/c/path/to/binary or something like that
05:10 <spidey> no
05:10 <spidey> i'd have to make a batch file for it
05:10 <spidey> and install python
05:10 <+Lucifer_arma> ummm, if you use cygwin to do it, you don't?
05:11 <Your_mom_arma> #message luke-jr_ sorry
05:11 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: The operation succeeded.
05:11 <+Lucifer_arma> I guess I'm assuming you'd open a cygwin window to do it :)
05:11 <spidey> ya
05:11  * Lucifer_arma always has a terminal open, so he just takes it for granted there's one handy
05:11 <spidey> but i don't have python installed 
05:11 <spidey> and
05:11 <spidey> the batch file is because i'm lazy
05:11 <+Lucifer_arma> cygwin's got python in it, easy to install
05:12 <spidey> put the batch file in C:\windows\system32
05:12 <spidey> name it something like
05:12 <spidey> arma
05:12 <spidey> open a terminal and type arma
05:12 <spidey> xD
05:12  * spidey is lazy
05:12 <spidey> terminal/command prompt
05:12  * spidey goes to reinstall opengl
05:13 <spidey> actually
05:13 <spidey> scratch that
05:13 <spidey> mepis beta 6 is done
05:13 <spidey> i'ma burn it and install it
05:14 <spidey> hahah
05:14 <spidey> i have hotwheels jets installed on my windows box
05:15 <spidey> slackware is gay
05:15 <spidey> you can install the first cd's packages
05:16 <spidey> from a dvd
05:16 <spidey> but when it wants the second cd,if you've got it on a dvd it won't read it
05:16 <Lizz> talking to urself arac?? :P
05:16 <spidey> ya
05:16 <Lizz> heh
05:17 <Lizz> wheres ur server gone?
05:17 <spidey> it won't be back till i format
05:17 <Lizz> kk
05:17 <spidey> or i could start it in the backgroun
05:17 <spidey> but i like running it over ssh from a terminal
05:17 <Lizz> if u say so lol
05:18 <spidey> mmmm
05:18 <Vanhayes> #wtf is ssh
05:19 <armabot> Vanhayes: SSH: secure shell
05:19 <Vanhayes> i see
05:19 <spidey> lol?
05:19 <Vanhayes> wasnt sure
05:19 <Lizz> hiya vanners
05:19 <+Lucifer_arma> #wtf is Vanhayes 
05:19 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Vanhayes: nothing appropriate
05:19 <spidey> lol
05:19 <+Lucifer_arma> I thought so
05:19 <Vanhayes> #wtf is Lucifer_arma 
05:19 <armabot> Vanhayes: Lucifer_arma: nothing appropriate
05:19 <Vanhayes> #wtf is YOU
05:19 <armabot> Vanhayes: YOU: nothing appropriate
05:20 <spidey> #wtf is spidey
05:20 <armabot> spidey: spidey: nothing appropriate
05:20 <spidey> :/
05:20 <Vanhayes> #help wtf 
05:20 <armabot> Vanhayes: (wtf [is] <something>) -- Returns wtf <something> is. 'wtf' is a *nix command that first appeared in NetBSD 1.5. In most *nices, it's available in some sort of 'bsdgames' package.
05:20 <spidey> #wtf spidey
05:20 <armabot> spidey: spidey: nothing appropriate
05:20 <Vanhayes> hmm all the alias gone now?
05:20 <Lizz> makes sence
05:20 <Vanhayes> #list alias
05:20 <armabot> Vanhayes: add, bug, ch, chatlog, digg, dotdotdot, g, gcalc, goodbye, hello, insight, lock, log, log, m, man, message, mfaq, morning, night, q, realchatlogs, remove, svn, unlock, and wikipedia
05:21 <spidey> root@fbi.gov[/usr/local/bin]$ wtf vanhayes
05:21 <spidey> -su: wtf: command not found
05:21 <spidey> lol
05:21 <Vanhayes> hmm more generus than the last time
05:21 <Vanhayes> #wikipedia Vanhayes 
05:21 <armabot> Vanhayes: No matches found. (Search took 0.35 seconds)
05:21 <Vanhayes> #wikipedia Van hayes 
05:21 <armabot> Vanhayes: Search took 0.44 seconds: Karen Hayes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Hayes>; Hayes Carll - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayes_Carll>; Samuel J. Tilden - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_J._Tilden>; Samuel J. Tilden - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: (3 more messages)
05:22 <Vanhayes> #wikipedia Spidey 
05:22  * Lizz slaps Vanhayes around a bit with a large trout
05:22 <armabot> Vanhayes: Search took 0.21 seconds: Spidey Super Stories - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spidey_Super_Stories>; Spider-Man - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man>; Spider-Man - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiderman>; Spider-Man - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: (3 more messages)
05:22 <Lizz> o
05:22 <spidey> owned
05:22 <Lizz> sorry van :/ lol
05:22 <+Lucifer_arma> #wtf is Lucifer_arma
05:22 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Lucifer_arma: nothing appropriate
05:22 <Vanhayes> lol
05:22 <Lizz> was meant for the spider lol
05:22 <Vanhayes> #wikipedia Lucifer
05:22 <spidey> i'm special enough to get on wiki and Vanhayes isn't
05:22 <armabot> Vanhayes: Search took 0.29 seconds: Lucifer: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer>; Lucifer (DC Comics) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer_(DC_Comics)>; Lucifer's Hammer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer's_Hammer>; Saint Lucifer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Lucifer>; (2 more messages)
05:23 <Lizz> saint lucifer?? lmao
05:23  * Lizz thinks luceee arse kissed to get a sainthood :P
05:25  * spidey slaps Lizz and goes to format
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05:25 <+Lucifer_arma> #wtf is Lucifer_arma
05:25 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Lucifer_arma: nothing appropriate
05:25 <+Lucifer_arma> how do I get it to update with the modified database?  :(
05:26 <nemostultae> Random name update. this one resets to your normal name, so next time you start up arma normally you have your regular name: http://pastie.caboo.se/4412
05:27 <+Lucifer_arma> how do I get it to update with the modified database?  :(
05:27 <+Lucifer_arma> #wtf is Lucifer_arma
05:27 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: LUCIFER_ARMA: Ruler of all that is evil
05:28 <+Lucifer_arma> #wtf is Vanhayes 
05:28 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Vanhayes: nothing appropriate
05:29 <Vanhayes> #wtf is Vanhayes 
05:29 <armabot> Vanhayes: Vanhayes: nothing appropriate
05:29 <+Lucifer_arma> #wtf is Lucifer
05:29 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: LUCIFER: See Lucifer_arma
05:33 <Your_mom_arma> #wtf is Your_mom_arma
05:33 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: Your_mom_arma: nothing appropriate
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06:03 <spidey> omg
06:03 <spidey> formatting from a dvd takes me way to long
06:04 <spidey> Linux version 2.6.15-25-386 (root@mepis-party) (gcc version 4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5)) #1 PREEMPT Mon Jun 19 00:05:53 EDT 2006
06:04 <spidey> mepis with a ubuntu kernal O_o
06:07 <spidey> yay
06:14 <spidey>   HorizSync    30.0 - 82.0 # Warning: This may fry old Monitors
06:14 <spidey>   VertRefresh  50.0 - 70.0 # Very conservative. May flicker.
06:15 <spidey> LOL
06:15  * spidey gets a old monitor out of the cloest
06:15 <spidey> closet*
06:23 <Lizz> gay monitor?
06:24 <spidey> it says it might fry a old monitor
06:24 <spidey> so i'ma try it
06:24 <spidey> later
06:24 <spidey> editing my konsole thingy
06:29 <spidey> wrtl?
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06:39 <spidey> PS1="\[\]\u@fbi.gov\][\]\W\]\]]$\[\] " || PS1="\[\][\W]\u\[\] "
06:39 <spidey> that owns
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06:48 <luke-jr_> Your_mom_arma: it'll be restarted within the hour
06:51 <Your_mom_arma> it auto restarted
06:51 <Your_mom_arma> just thought i'ld mention it to you
06:52 <Your_mom_arma> i'll try to be more carefull
06:52 <spidey_> don't use the cycle_walls_Stay_up_delay one either
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07:30 <spidey_> lucifer?
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07:31 <spidey> Error: Error in bool sr_InitDisplay() in ../../builds/b_0.3.0/B1/armagetronad-0.3.0/src/render/rScreen.cpp:738 :
07:31 <spidey> Sorry, played all my cards trying to initialize your video system.
07:31 <spidey> Armagetron Advanced won't run on your computer. Reason:
07:31 <spidey> Couldn't set video mode: OpenGL not available
07:31 <spidey> I'll try again from the beginning, but the chances of success are minimal.
07:31 <spidey> i get that when i try to use arma.sh
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07:31 <spidey> but if i select the icon from the kde menu it works fine
07:32 <spidey> actually
07:32 <spidey> if i even try to start it via terminal
07:32 <spidey> armagetronad does the same
07:35 <spidey> ok
07:35 <spidey> nvm
07:35 <spidey> that error was because i tried it as root
07:35 <spidey> but trying it as a user
07:36 <spidey> spidey@fbi.gov[~]$ armagetronad
07:36 <spidey> ROTATION_FILE is currently set to .
07:36 <spidey> Error: Error in int main(int, char**) in ../../builds/b_0.3.0/B1/armagetronad-0.3.0/src/tron/gArmagetron.cpp:634 :
07:36 <spidey>         Couldn't initialize SDL: Unable to open a console terminal
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07:42 <+Lucifer_arma> put your arma.sh file on a pastebin so I can see it.
07:42 <+Lucifer_arma> spidey:  ^^^^^
07:44 <spidey> it's not that
07:44 <spidey> armagetronad does the same
07:44 <spidey> i can't use arma.sh if armagetronad doesn't work :)
07:45 <spidey> i can start it from the kde menu,but not from a terminal
07:56 <+Lucifer_arma> haha, I went into my server and called myself Cannibal (script)
07:57 <+Lucifer_arma> my team is still People Eaters, and the AI given to me on my team is also named Cannibal, so he got named Cannibal2
07:57 <+wrtlprnft> spidey: no i didn't
07:57 <+wrtlprnft> but it isn't a fps problem, it's a framerate problem :/
07:57 <spidey> wrtlprnft, i was right
07:57 <spidey> no
07:58 <spidey> it's a package you're missing
07:58 <spidey> i'm using 7.0
07:58 <spidey> now
07:58 <spidey> it came default
07:58 <spidey> spidey@fbi.gov[~]$ X -version
07:58 <spidey> X Window System Version 7.0.0
07:58 <spidey> Release Date: 21 December 2005
07:59 <+wrtlprnft> that's what i have
07:59 <spidey> me to
07:59 <spidey> my fps are normal again
07:59 <spidey> because that x server came default on the install
07:59 <spidey> go back and find out which packages where uninstalled
07:59 <spidey> then reinstall the ones that wheren't 
08:00 <spidey> wheren't reinstalled*
08:00 <spidey> you're missing opengl
08:00 <spidey> i think
08:02 <+wrtlprnft> uh, the only thing it uninstalled was the old xorg
08:04 <+wrtlprnft> and my framerate didn't totally go down, there's still acceleration
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08:20 <+wrtlprnft> can we make it so logged-in people can
08:20 <+wrtlprnft> 't be dumped, kicked, swore at, etc?
08:20 <+wrtlprnft> oh, and they can't lose of course
08:21 <+wrtlprnft> *sworn (i guess)
08:21 <+wrtlprnft> and if anyone dies they get the points for the kill?
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08:46 <Your_mom_arma> whats my ping...
08:46 <Your_mom_arma> arma is barely responding
08:48 <Your_mom_arma> polling master server gives me a dns error
08:53 <+Lucifer_arma> anybody know how to setup apache to serve up svn repositories?
09:00 <spidey> um
09:00 <spidey> not i
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09:05 <anjori> what, spidey? you were just telling me how to do that yesterday
09:05 <spidey> lol
09:06 <spidey> anjori, you tried mepis beta 6?
09:06 <spidey> has ubuntu kernal so it now supports mepis,debian and ubuntu packages
09:06 <anjori> its RC3 now, but no. i'm going to wait for a final
09:06  * spidey likes it
09:06 <anjori> um, be careful with the debian packages. ubuntu and debian are not necessarily binary compatible
09:07 <spidey> i know,but it's in the default repositories,so i imagen it's compatible :)
09:07 <anjori> if it's got an ubuntu base, stick to those repos
09:07 <anjori> debian is? i doubt that.
09:07 <spidey> it is
09:07 <anjori> what repo?
09:07 <spidey> debian ubuntu and mepis repositories
09:08 <spidey> sec
09:09 <+Lucifer_arma> mepis rc2 trashed my hard drive
09:09  * Lucifer_arma whines some more
09:09 <spidey> i read something
09:09 <spidey> hold on looking for the .deb packages
09:10 <anjori> not packages. open synaptic and go to the repos listing under settings.
09:11 <anjori> or type "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" in the console
09:12 <spidey> mmm
09:12 <spidey> i think i fucked up my /etc/profile
09:12 <spidey> spidey@fbi.gov[~]
09:12 <spidey> $
09:12 <spidey> that;s hiw ut displays
09:12 <spidey> lol
09:12 <spidey> spidey@fbi.gov[~]
09:12 <spidey> $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list
09:12 <spidey> # See sources.list(5) for more information
09:12 <spidey> # This file should be edited through synaptic
09:12 <spidey> # MEPIS improvements, overrides and updates--the MEPIS magic
09:12 <spidey> deb http://apt.mepis.org/6.0/ mepis main
09:12 <spidey> # Ubuntu foundation packages
09:12 <spidey> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy main restricted
09:12 <spidey> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
09:12 <spidey> # Security updates
09:12 <spidey> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-security main restricted
09:13 <spidey> # Package updates
09:13 <armabot> spidey: You've given me 5 invalid commands within the last minute; I'm now ignoring you for 10 minutes.
09:13 <spidey> bah
09:13 <spidey> besides that,in 3.4.3 there's a debian repository i think
09:13 <spidey> a few actually
09:13 <spidey> i remember seeing them
09:16 <anjori> in 3.4-3 there is, yes. because that version has a debian base.
09:16 <spidey> and anjori,it's got a ubuntu kernel....all packages should be compatible
09:16 <spidey> mepis and ubuntu are debian based distros.....
09:16 <anjori> yes, but that doesnt make them compatible
09:17 <spidey> i used to install debian packages when i ran ubuntu
09:17 <spidey> worked fine
09:17 <anjori> it can be done. but it's generally not the best idea and you should stick to ubuntu-specific packages
09:17 <spidey> should but don't
09:18 <spidey> this is a test box,if it messes it up...oh well i know not to do it again and move to the next distro
09:18 <spidey> i've done slackware(failure),mepis,ubuntu,mandrivia and one more i can't remember
09:19 <anjori> i'm looking at kubuntu right now, but it annoys me that they don't have build tools installed by default. and i can't even install the bloody armagetron autopackage because it says i'm missing the sdl dev package. thing is, there's none left to install
09:20 <spidey> ?
09:20 <+Lucifer_arma> where the hell is htpasswd?
09:20 <spidey> locate htpasswd ?
09:20 <+Lucifer_arma> no locate :)
09:20 <spidey> find htpasswd ?
09:22 <spidey> mmmm
09:22 <spidey> weird
09:22 <+Lucifer_arma> what package is locate in?
09:22 <spidey> erm
09:22 <spidey> sec
09:23 <spidey> it's in find
09:23 <spidey> i think
09:23 <spidey> what distro?
09:23 <+Lucifer_arma> gentoo
09:23 <spidey> ah
09:24 <spidey> it's in find in slackware
09:24 <spidey> sec
09:24 <+Lucifer_arma> probably same place
09:24 <+Lucifer_arma> most distributions don't split packages up as much as you might think
09:24  * Lucifer_arma has emerge --sync running right now
09:24 <spidey> it's not find in mepis :p
09:24 <spidey> i checked :/
09:26 <anjori> findutils
09:26 <anjori> in debian
09:26 <spidey> it's gentoo
09:27 <+Lucifer_arma> findutils-4.1.20-r2 ?
09:27 <+Lucifer_arma> oes that look about right?
09:27 <spidey> probably
09:27 <anjori> i have 4.2.27
09:27 <+Lucifer_arma> what?  gentoo has an older version than anjori ?!?
09:27 <+Lucifer_arma> anyway, emerging :)
09:27 <spidey> i have 4.2.27 as well
09:27 <anjori> than debian testing, apparently
09:27 <spidey> but mine's for ubuntu
09:28 <+Lucifer_arma> well, I'm running the stuff marked stable, because it's the server
09:28 <anjori> ah
09:28 <+Lucifer_arma> you know.  servers dont' run unstable software....
09:28 <+Lucifer_arma> haha
09:28 <+Lucifer_arma> slocate
09:28 <+Lucifer_arma>  * Please note that the locate and updatedb binaries
09:28 <+Lucifer_arma>  * are not longer provided by findutils.
09:28 <+Lucifer_arma>  * Please emerge slocate
09:29 <anjori> heh
09:29 <spidey> i'm guessing emerge is debians apt-get ?
09:29 <+Lucifer_arma> no, debian's apt-get is apt-get :)
09:29 <spidey> gentoos emerge is debians apt-get*
09:29 <+Lucifer_arma> your guess is right, though, except emerge gets the source and builds it.  It can use binary packages, but apparently nobody provides any
09:30 <spidey> heh
09:30 <spidey> apt-get install
09:30 <spidey> :p
09:30 <anjori> ah, slocate is in my repo, too, as "Secure replacement of findutil's locate". not installed, though
09:31 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, who says apt-get can't do the same??? apt-get build-dep
09:31 <anjori> i think the difference now is that it can index all files, but only displays those the invoking user has access too
09:31 <+Lucifer_arma> I didn't say it couldn't, or I didn't mean to.
09:31 <+Lucifer_arma> see, they all do the same stuff these days
09:32 <+Lucifer_arma> the difference is in their default usage, and emerge's is to build from source, where apt-get's is to get binary packages
09:32 <spidey> actually
09:32 <spidey> apt-get build-dep
09:32 <spidey> builds dependencies
09:32 <+Lucifer_arma> near as I can tell, that's the only thing left that differentiates build from source distributions and binary distributions
09:32 <spidey> apt-get source downloads and builds it
09:32 <anjori> does it actually do the building? i thought it only downloaded the deb source packages?
09:33 <+Lucifer_arma> well, emerge has a number of flags to change its behavior too.  :)  default is to download and build dependencies, then the package
09:33 <anjori> i've never bothered with it, so i dont know
09:33 <spidey> Usage: apt-get [options] command
09:33 <spidey>        apt-get [options] install|remove pkg1 [pkg2 ...]
09:33 <spidey>        apt-get [options] source pkg1 [pkg2 ...]
09:34 <spidey> i'm guessing you could do
09:34 <spidey> apt-get build-dep source packages1-2-soon
09:34 <spidey> so-on
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09:35 <anjori> ah, if you pass it the --compile flag, it'll build it. but it tracks source packages differently than binary
09:35 <spidey> --compile?
09:35 <spidey> where'd you get that?
09:35 <+Lucifer_arma> well, part of binary packages is discovering dependencies.  :)  rpm at least runs ldd on the binary to see what it's linked against and marks those as dependencies
09:35 <anjori> apt-get's man page
09:36 <spidey> er
09:36 <spidey> mine doesn't have that
09:36 <spidey> i must have the ubuntu apt-get
09:36 <spidey> :/
09:36 <+Lucifer_arma> that's something that annoyed the living piss out of me about kubuntu: no man pages!
09:36 <anjori> "build-dep     build-dep causes apt-get to install/remove packages  in  an  attempt to satisfy the build dependencies for a source package."
09:37 <anjori> no?!  surely they must provide a package that you can install them, at least?
09:37 <spidey> ?
09:38 <anjori> "them" being man pages.
09:38 <spidey> oh
09:38 <spidey> ubuntu had man pages for me
09:38 <spidey> maybe kubuntu is a bit different?
09:38 <spidey> unless you did apt-get install kubuntu
09:38 <anjori> it's the same base. probably just not as complete as they should be
09:38 <spidey> ya
09:39 <spidey> when i got ubuntu i put kde on it
09:39 <spidey> never downloaded the port with kde already installed
09:39 <spidey> i also used breezy
09:39 <spidey> not dapper
09:39 <spidey> "breezy-badger"
09:39 <anjori> well, that'll cause me to reexamine whether i want to use kubuntu now, then.
09:40 <spidey> anjori, just do apt-get install kubuntu  
09:40 <spidey> if you want kde
09:40 <anjori> i know.
09:40 <anjori> and actually, i belive it's kubuntu-desktop ;)
09:41 <spidey> been awhile since i used to,so probably
09:41 <spidey> apt-cache search kubuntu
09:41 <anjori> i already have kubuntu CDs i got in the mail, then
09:41 <anjori> *though
09:41 <spidey> mm
09:42 <spidey> there's updates ready O_o
09:42 <spidey> mepis beta 6 is useful like ubuntu
09:42 <spidey> it has a icon that tells you when upgrades are available
09:43 <spidey> hey anjori did you change the way your teminal looks
09:43 <anjori> yeah. you can install that on debian and earlier versions of mepis, too. just uses Adept
09:43 <spidey> like username@1[~0# ?
09:43 <spidey> like username@1[~]# ?
09:43 <anjori> nah, too lazy
09:43 <spidey> not hard
09:43 <spidey> know how to do it?
09:44 <anjori> yeah
09:44 <spidey> [ -n "$TTY" ] && PS1="\[\]\u@fbi.gov\][\]\W\]\]]\\$\[\] " || PS1="\[\][\W]\u\[\] "
09:44 <spidey> that's mine
09:44 <spidey> it looks cool ;x
09:45  * anjori owns the "Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 Bible" and O'Reilly's "Learning the bash Shell". i've read all about it :) 
09:45 <spidey> yea
09:45 <spidey> but it also says you edit bashrc
09:45 <spidey> but if you do that it doesn't make the shell different
09:45 <spidey> you edit /etc/profile
09:46 <anjori> there's an order to them. some of the files are only read on a login shell
09:46 <anjori> i forget which file does which, but that's why you tell one to source the other
09:47 <spidey> they do source each other
09:47 <spidey> i checked most of them
09:47 <spidey> ~/bashrc
09:47 <spidey> /etc/bashrc
09:47 <+Lucifer_arma> if it's not a login shell, it's either vanilla bash or it inherits the shell above it, one of the two
09:48 <spidey> lets see
09:48 <spidey> ok
09:48 <+Lucifer_arma> wtf!  It's emerging apache 1.3!
09:48 <spidey> they're spread out 
09:48 <spidey> bashrc has the alias's
09:49 <spidey> bash.bashrc has the includes
09:49 <spidey> and profile has the shells look
09:50 <anjori> ah, there we go. .bash_profile is read by the login shell. if you start a subshell, it reads from .bashrc
09:51 <spidey> subshell?
09:51 <spidey> um
09:52 <spidey> all ~/.bash_profile is,is a include
09:52 <spidey> . ~/.bashrc 
09:52 <spidey> is what it includes
09:53 <spidey> and for me ~/.bashrc doesn't exsist xD
09:53 <+Lucifer_arma> what's the ssl port?
09:53 <+Lucifer_arma> 443?
09:53 <spidey> ya i think
09:53 <spidey> wait
09:53 <spidey> 6697 ?
09:53 <spidey> or no,that's the irc's ssl port
09:53 <spidey> erm
09:53 <anjori> yeah, if you run the same commands regardless and don't need anything special on startup, you can just source the other.
09:53 <+Lucifer_arma> #wtf ssl
09:53 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: SSL: secure sockets layer
09:54 <anjori> 443
09:54 <anjori> says google
09:54 <spidey> apache right?
09:55 <spidey> ya 443
09:56 <+Lucifer_arma> hmmmm, connection refused
09:56 <+Lucifer_arma> I thought I just enabled ssl
09:56 <+Lucifer_arma> oh wait
09:56 <spidey> you trying from your domain?
09:58 <+Lucifer_arma> this sucks
09:58 <spidey> ?
09:58 <+Lucifer_arma> I did a pretend unemerge on apache to see what it would do, and it said it would only remove apache 1.3
09:58 <+Lucifer_arma> so I ran a for real unemerge, and it took out apache2
09:58 <+Lucifer_arma> spidey: yeah, I'm trying to setup a svn repo on my machine
09:58 <spidey> O_o
09:59 <+Lucifer_arma> I hate it when software lies to me
09:59 <+Lucifer_arma> only sci-fi authors think computers don't lie
09:59 <spidey> LOL
09:59 <anjori> shitty deal
09:59 <+Lucifer_arma> so now my webserver's probably broke until apache finished emerging
10:00 <+Lucifer_arma> *finishes
10:00 <anjori> i think i've had apt do the same to me before
10:01 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, here ya go  http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/apache/2002/12/19/svn2.html
10:01 <anjori> and then you actually make the changes, and BOOM!
10:01 <+Lucifer_arma> they should either drop apache 1.3 support, or call it apache-old or something
10:01 <spidey> that tells how to get apache to serv svn
10:01 <+Lucifer_arma> http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn.serverconfig.httpd.html  <--- working from the subversion manual
10:05 <+Lucifer_arma> I'm more than a little irritated I'm having to rebuild apache
10:08 <spidey> heh
10:12 <anjori> eek. i upgraded openoffice, but not the kde integration package because it requires a bunch of new kde libs, and now it looks awful
10:12 <spidey> lol
10:13 <spidey> i don't really use synaptic
10:13 <spidey> to lazy to type the root password
10:14 <spidey> i always have a user terminal and a root terminal open
10:14 <spidey> so i use apt-get and apt-cache
10:14 <anjori> at least use aptitude, in that case. better dependancy tracking.
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10:15 <Lizz> hiya aaaaaanj
10:17 <anjori> hi
10:17 <Lizz> :)
10:17 <Lizz> did u get the messages i left u?
10:19 <anjori> yes
10:19 <Lizz> k
10:20 <Lizz> how do i PM in here?
10:20  * anjori is watching someone trying to guide a newbie through setting up xorg in fedora. 
10:20 <anjori> how frustrated people must have been with me when i first started. and still from time to time :)
10:20 <anjori>  /msg nick message
10:22 <spidey> ??
10:22 <spidey> xorgconfig in terminal
10:22 <spidey> it's step by step from there
10:22 <anjori> nah, but they're having errors and missing things
10:22 <spidey> O_o
10:22 <spidey> that's why i like apt-get
10:22 <spidey> it installs dependencies
10:23 <anjori> yes. i loathe rpm-based distros
10:23 <spidey> heh
10:23 <anjori> i think the first one i ever tried way back when was red hat. and what a nightmare.
10:23 <spidey> i never tried it
10:23 <spidey> only rpm based one i tried was mandrivia
10:25 <anjori> ive played with a number of them, but always found myself coming back to the debian way. though i havent really touched anything on that side in awhile now.
10:25 <anjori> mandriva just annoyed the shit out of me
10:25 <anjori> though i didn't know shit myself back then, so maybe that was part of it
10:25 <spidey> haha
10:25 <spidey> tried slackware?
10:26 <anjori> i played around with the SLAMPP live cd one night. 
10:26 <anjori> so, no, not really :P
10:26 <spidey> heh
10:32 -!- spidey is now known as noob
10:33 <noob> * You are now known as noob
10:33 <noob> -NickServ- This nickname is owned by someone else
10:33 <noob> lol
10:35 -!- noob is now known as spidey
10:35 <guru3> i think my server needs another gb of ram
10:35 <spidey> O_o
10:36 <Lizz> grrrrrrrrrrr why dont my PM work
10:36 <spidey> it does
10:36  * spidey slaps Lizz 
10:36 <Lizz> but i cant start one
10:36 <spidey> <spidey> noooooooooob
10:36 <spidey> <Lizz> it worked?
10:36 <spidey> <spidey> no
10:36 <spidey> <spidey> you're seeing things
10:36 <spidey> <Lizz> fkn think
10:36 <spidey> <spidey> lol
10:36 <guru3> freenode doesn't allow unauthed pms
10:36 <spidey> i'm authed
10:36 <spidey> she's authed
10:36 <Lizz> but im registered
10:37 <spidey> i told you
10:37 <spidey> you have to wait for them to respond
10:37 <Lizz> ok
10:37 <+Lucifer_arma> you're probably typing /msg spider
10:37 <spidey> it doesn't show another window untill then
10:37 <spidey> she's not trying to pm me :p
10:37 <spidey> the person she's pming just hasn't responded yet
10:37 <Lizz> meh
10:37 <Lizz> <~~~~~ dork 
10:38 <spidey> um
10:38 <spidey> try this
10:38 <spidey>   /q person
10:38 <Lizz> is ok.. it works now
10:38 <spidey> it should open it in a new window
10:39 <+Lucifer_arma> can't be me
10:39 <Lizz> ya ya that works too thx arac
10:39 <Lizz> u wouldnt accept my PMs anyway looceee
10:39 <Lizz> :P
10:40 <+Lucifer_arma> sure the person you're pming is authed?
10:40 <+Lucifer_arma> I do have a tendency to direct such traffic to the channel
10:40 <Lizz> is ok works now ty gentlemen :)
10:40 <spidey> LOL
10:40  * Lucifer_arma doesn't think she's talking to him.  She said "gentlemen".
10:40 <spidey> >Lucifer_arma< i wub joo!
10:40 <spidey> xD
10:40 <Lizz> ur all very sweet in here tho :)
10:40 <+Lucifer_arma> >animation of lucifer closing the tab without reading it<
10:41 <spidey> lmao
10:41 <+Lucifer_arma> I give up on svn server tonight
10:41 <+Lucifer_arma> guru3: hey, can you do the dns deed with the wiki?
10:42 <+Lucifer_arma> the message on the wiki says we're waiting on me, and that's not entirely accurate anymore...
10:42 <guru3> ah where does it need to go?
10:42 <+Lucifer_arma> wiki.davefancella.com
10:42 <guru3> yeah sorry i was probably a little mean with that message
10:42 <+Lucifer_arma> heh, not terribly :)
10:43 <guru3> dns updating
10:43 <+Lucifer_arma> ok, thanks.  :)
10:43 <guru3> np
10:43 <Lizz> heh i should send dirty Pms to ev1 now that i kno how lmao
10:43 <spidey> O_o
10:43 <+Lucifer_arma>  /ignore Lizz
10:43 <spidey> lol
10:44  * Lizz slaps looceeee
10:44  * Lucifer_arma whistles
10:44 <+Lucifer_arma> this svn server thing is going to bother me
10:44  * Lizz pokes looocee in the ribs
10:45 <+Lucifer_arma> yay, wiki move complete
10:45 <anjori> it's not complete until the dns points me there :)
10:46 <+Lucifer_arma> ahh, well, it's pointing me there
10:46 <+Lucifer_arma> hold shift when you press refresh
10:46 <anjori> ah, didnt realize it was cached. i have the cache size set really low
10:47 <spidey> works for me
10:47 <+Lucifer_arma> so your lady doesn't find your porno browsing?
10:47 <anjori> is it just forwarding? there's no way in hell dns would propogate that quickly
10:47 <spidey> sure there is
10:47 <spidey> no-ip.org does it
10:47 <Lizz> lolol
10:47 <anjori> no-ip is just forwarding
10:47 <spidey> not when i use the dns ribon
10:47 <spidey> :)
10:48 <spidey> an no
10:48 <spidey> it's not
10:48 <+Lucifer_arma> well, ummm
10:48 <Lizz> brb gotta check me roast pork
10:48 <+Lucifer_arma> I don't think dns propogation works quite that way
10:48 <+Lucifer_arma> see, you give nameservers that server your domain, it's the domain that has to propogate
10:48 <+Lucifer_arma> armagetronad.net propogated a long time ago
10:49 <+Lucifer_arma> wiki is just a host in that domain, and no-ip's nameservers serve it, so you just had to wait for their servers to update
10:49 <+Lucifer_arma> quick line for monologue
10:50 <anjori> i see.
10:50 <anjori> oh, and if i had a lady, what would i need porno browsing for? :P
10:50 <Lizz> foreplay :P
10:50 <Lizz> brb
10:51 <spidey> maybe she was sleeping
10:51 <anjori> there's just not much of a point to caching things when i'm on broadband. i prefer to see the newest content, anyway
10:51 <spidey> or at work
10:51  * Lucifer_arma recalls what he said earlier about the best hand jobs
10:52 <anjori> i must have missed that
10:52 <+Lucifer_arma> yeah, well, play more arma and you won't miss such important things
10:52 <spidey> #last --from Lucifer_arma --with give myself best hand jobs
10:52 <armabot> spidey: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; (1 more message)
10:52 <spidey> ???
10:52 <+Lucifer_arma> said it ingame, spidey
10:52 <spidey> oh
10:53 <anjori> oh, jesus. like i really need to play even more than i already do
10:53 <+Lucifer_arma> I won't play for any team that uses annoying animated gifs for banners
10:53 <spidey> hahahaha
10:54  * Lucifer_arma notices no Republic of Texas for the international tron competition
10:54 <anjori> hah
10:54  * anjori sees another civil war brewing
10:55 <spidey> btw
10:55 <spidey> when is the next spoon matches?
10:55 <anjori> the spoon's over, dude
10:55 <anjori> long ago
10:55 <+Lucifer_arma> can I invoke italian ancestry and play for Italy?
10:56 <spidey> 2 matches played over five weeks with most rounds being won by default. The prestigious Tronic Spoon trophy is still to be decided... between MBC, AW and ??.
10:56 <anjori> oh, i see. well, that was a huge flop, then.
10:57 <spidey> hey lucifer
10:57 <+Lucifer_arma> what spidey 
10:57 <spidey> will you play for teams using annoying .jpg's ?
10:57 <+Lucifer_arma> ok, the real reason I don't want to sign up as an american is because the US team is full of annoying people
10:58 <spidey> that's why i asked van if i could play for canada :p
10:58 <+Lucifer_arma> There's Manta, but that's just gold plating on what's otherwise turd
10:58 <spidey> LOL
10:59 <+Lucifer_arma> let's start a "States in Rebellion" team
10:59 <+Lucifer_arma> better yet, Confederate States of America :)
10:59 <spidey> surte
10:59 <spidey> sure
10:59 <spidey> :D
10:59 <spidey> i'd be for it, haha
11:00 <+Lucifer_arma> we could join Australia's team so they'll have some low pingers, heh
11:00 <spidey> um
11:00 <+Lucifer_arma> ack, I'm wasting my time.  Chances are I won't show up to the match anyway
11:00 <spidey> australia isn't in there
11:00 <spidey> it's austria :p
11:01 <+Lucifer_arma> Luna Free State
11:01 <spidey> ?
11:01  * Lucifer_arma wonders if there are any crackpots that have declared themselves the government-in-exile for the moon
11:02 <anjori> form a rebel team and ill join ya
11:02 <+Lucifer_arma> confederate?
11:02 <+Lucifer_arma> or just rebel in general?
11:02 <spidey> Rebellious States Of The World
11:02 <spidey> mwhahahah
11:02 <+Lucifer_arma> we'll probably get kicked out, you know.  ;)
11:03 <spidey> we could claim a portion of antartica as it 
11:03 <spidey> setup a base manned by 3 people xD
11:04 <+Lucifer_arma> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/International_Tron_World_Cup#Rebellious_States_of_the_World
11:04 <spidey> haha
11:04  * spidey puts his name down
11:04 <anjori> oh dear
11:04 <spidey> i have to login :/
11:04 <+Lucifer_arma> try it, it let me login
11:05 <spidey> i aint signed up :p
11:05 <+Lucifer_arma> ahhhh
11:05 <spidey> sec.i will
11:05 <+Lucifer_arma> I'll dd you
11:05 <anjori> tell me when youre done. i dont want to erase your edit
11:05 <+Lucifer_arma> you want to be added as BlAzE?
11:05 <spidey> ya
11:05 <anjori> blaze?
11:05 <spidey> ;)
11:05 <+Lucifer_arma> ok, done
11:06 <+Lucifer_arma> spidey changed his name and told everyone he quit playing
11:06 <anjori> i see
11:06 <anjori> wow, i'm out of the loop
11:06 <spidey> Login successful
11:06 <spidey> From Armagetron Advanced Wiki
11:06 <spidey> Welcome, BlAzE! 
11:06 <spidey> the most convincing part is
11:06 <spidey> when i had sky come in as spidey |mbc| while i was in there as BlAzE
11:07 <spidey> :>
11:07 <+Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, you leaked it when you called your server ~Spidey~ and radmined it as BlAzE
11:07 <spidey> ya,i noticed
11:07 <spidey> that's why i said i fucked up and needed a tag for them
11:07 <spidey> lol
11:07 <+Lucifer_arma> well, in a little while I"m going to be completely anonymous
11:08 <spidey> O_o
11:08 <+Lucifer_arma> after I get enough names added to my name picker file, that is
11:08 <spidey> mmm
11:08 <+Lucifer_arma> you'll probably recognize some of them.  It is kinda neat not knowing before I join a server what my name or color are
11:08 <spidey> heh
11:08 <spidey> btw
11:09 <spidey> i can't use that script in any form
11:09 <spidey> because of this
11:09 <spidey> well WTF
11:09 <spidey> it works from terminal now
11:09  * spidey continues with the script
11:09 <+Lucifer_arma> heh
11:10  * Lucifer_arma is going to bed, 'night
11:10 <spidey> cya
11:10 <anjori> g'night
11:11 <anjori> so are we the R.S. of W now? :P
11:11 <spidey> haha
11:11 <spidey> ya xD
11:11 <spidey> (R.S.F)
11:11 <spidey> O_o
11:11 <spidey> no
11:11 <spidey> (R.S.W)
11:11 <anjori> F?
11:11 <anjori> heh
11:14 <spidey>  Through the interoperability Microsoft and Yahoo! have increased their market share in instant messaging to an estimated (combined) 350 million users.
11:14 <spidey> great msn just gained a group of retards
11:14 <anjori> have they finally combined them?
11:14 <spidey> Having seen a live demo for the interoperability on Tuesday I can assure you that the support is nearly flawless. Extras such as emoticons, and even Personal Messages are supported by both clients and there is no noticeable delay when sending messages between Windows Live Messenger and Yahoo! Messenger users. The only thing that does not seem to work perfectly yet are Sharing Folders.
11:14 <spidey> i guess so
11:15 <anjori> i wonder when aol and google will do the same
11:15 <spidey> i hope they don't
11:15 <anjori> they are
11:15  * spidey will switch to ask.com
11:15 <anjori> for instant messaging
11:15 <spidey> oh
11:15 <spidey> i don't use it
11:15 -!- madmax|pt [n=madmax@bl4-197-213.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #armagetron
11:15 <spidey> so i dun care
11:15 <spidey> hi
11:15 <anjori> aim and google talk
11:15 <spidey> ya
11:15 <spidey> i don't use either
11:16 <madmax|pt> hello
11:16 <anjori> and if done right, that would also open aim up to any other jabber server
11:16 <anjori> hey mad
11:18 <spidey> lucifer?
11:18 <+Lucifer_arma> arg
11:18 <+Lucifer_arma> what?
11:18 <spidey> lol
11:18 <spidey> we should combine words lists
11:18 <spidey> :D
11:18 <+Lucifer_arma> quick, I just came in for a sec, going to bed...
11:18  * spidey is making a big one
11:18 <+Lucifer_arma> actually, I was just thinking about that :)
11:19 <+Lucifer_arma> the only way it can be truly anonymous is if several people use the same lists
11:19 <spidey> ys
11:19 <spidey> ya'
11:19 <+Lucifer_arma> need some instant chats, too, so people can pick us out on INCOMING and crap like that
11:19 <spidey> mmm
11:20 <+Lucifer_arma> *can't
11:20 <+Lucifer_arma> heh
11:20 <+Lucifer_arma> it's amazing how two missed characters change the meaning of the whole sentence
11:20 <spidey> haha
11:21 <anjori> when one of you has a chance, show me what the hell youre doing. maybe i'll jump on board
11:21 <+Lucifer_arma> we'll deal with it tomorrow.  :)  'night
11:21 <spidey> cya
11:23 <spidey> hehe
11:23 <spidey> nemo made a script awhile back that picks a random name out of a list of words
11:24 <spidey> and inserts it in tron
11:24 <madmax|pt> advanced smurfing techniques?
11:25 <spidey> ???
11:25 <madmax|pt> lol
11:25 <madmax|pt> dont you people call "smurfs"?
11:26 <madmax|pt> to people playing with diff nicks?
11:26 <spidey> there's 2 kinds of smurfs
11:26 <spidey> those little blue and white guys
11:26 <spidey> and DDoS via icmp attacks
11:26 <spidey> only two smurfs i know of
11:26  * Lizz thinks shes in the wrong room
11:26 <madmax|pt> o_O
11:27 <Lizz> we need a play room
11:27 <Lizz> lol
11:28 <spidey>  /included/Lucifer/Playroom
11:28 <Lizz> lmao
11:28 <Lizz> no one would goto the playroom anyway.. ur all techies :P
11:30 <madmax|pt> playroom?
11:30 <madmax|pt> what? when?
11:31 <Lizz> where?
11:31 <madmax|pt> there is no room, so no point on asking where :P
11:31 <Lizz> heh.. made u type a response tho :P
11:31 <madmax|pt> lol
11:32  * Lizz plays
11:32 <madmax|pt> what? where?
11:32  * Lizz throws rat poison at spider
11:32 <Lizz> her .. now :p
11:32 <Lizz> here*
11:33 <madmax|pt> i think the spider died
11:33 <Lizz> was the poison :D
11:34 <Lizz> nvm he has hairy legs anyway lol
11:34  * Lizz cleans the cobwebs away
11:35  * Lizz runs off to tron to annoy ppl with private messages
11:36 <madmax|pt> You don't usually play fortress right Lizz ?
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11:41 <spidey> ?
11:41 <Wolv> umm not always max.. but i do yes
11:41 <Wolv> oh
11:41 <Wolv> weird
11:41 <Wolv> :/
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11:42 <Wolv> erm
11:43 <Wolv> ummm
11:43 <Wolv> spider?
11:43 <spidey> ?
11:43 <Wolv> how do i get rid of both of me? O.O
11:44 <spidey> lizz = timed out
11:44 <spidey> actually
11:44 <Wolv> i kno my net dropped ot
11:44 <spidey> type /msg nickserv ghost lizz password
11:45 <spidey> password = whatever your pass is
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11:45 <Wolv> :)
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11:45 <spidey> now /nick lizz
11:45 <spidey> :/
11:45 <madmax|pt> thats the easy part
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11:45 <spidey> lol...
11:45 <Lizz> much better
11:45 <spidey> all you gotta do is /nick Lizz
11:45 <spidey> :p
11:45 -!- spidey is now known as noob
11:45 <noob> ;D
11:46 <Lizz> then there wold be 2 of me... u think ud handle that?? lol
11:46 <noob> no
11:46 <noob>  /nick changes your name
11:46  * Lizz slaps noob around a bit with a large trout
11:46 <Lizz> ok .. back to annoying ppl :D
11:46  * noob slaps Lizz around a bit with a large cow
11:46 <Lizz> mooooooooooos
11:52 <noob> #last --from Lucifer_arma --with pastebin-
11:52 <armabot> noob: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 4226 messages.
11:52 <noob> #last --from Lucifer_arma --with http://paste
11:52 <armabot> noob: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 4228 messages.
11:52 <noob> !?!?!?!
11:52 <noob> wrtlprnft, you there?
11:52 <noob> #last --from Lucifer_arma --with http://paste*
11:52 <armabot> noob: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 4234 messages.
11:52 <noob> #last --from Lucifer_arma --with http://p
11:52 <armabot> noob: [22:01:06] <Lucifer_arma> http://pastie.caboo.se/4409  <--- use this for the python program, it doesn't require editing
11:53 <noob> thanks!
11:53 <Lizz> ?
11:53 <Lizz> spider
11:54 <noob> #last --from Lucifer_arma --with http://pastie.caboo.se/4407
11:54 <armabot> noob: [21:55:14] <Lucifer_arma> http://pastie.caboo.se/4407 <--- here's with my change
11:54 <noob> ya?
11:54 <Lizz> come play ur server wit me
11:54 <madmax|pt> lol, it randomizes the color too?
11:54 <noob> ya
11:54 <noob> i will in a sec
11:55 <Lizz> mite goto fort and pretend to be a new chick lol
11:56 <Lizz> ill be in fort arac :) come get me when ya done
11:56 <noob> heh
12:04 <+wrtlprnft> noob: now i am
12:04 <noob> nvm
12:04 <noob> i got it
12:04 <noob> couldn't get armabot to show the logs i wanted
12:09 <noob> spidey@fbi.gov[~]$ sh tron.py
12:09 <noob> /usr/bin/tron.py: line 3: /usr/bin/namepicker.py: Permission denied
12:09 <noob> O_o
12:09 <noob> wtf that mean
12:16 <noob> weird
12:16 <noob> i got it all to work without erroring in terminal
12:16 <noob> but it still doesn't work
12:16 <noob> O_o
12:17 <guru3> ahh
12:17 <guru3> ssh is a blessing
12:18 <noob> ya
12:18 <noob> i love it
12:18 <guru3> but to be able to ssh to something that only has a touch screen
12:18 <guru3> omg it's the best
12:18 <noob> haha
12:20 <guru3> playing with my 770 x)
12:24 <noob> YES
12:24 <noob> i got it to work!!!
12:24 <noob> i had to change a few things
12:25 <noob> word="`python /usr/bin/namepicker.py`"  for one cause word="`namepicker.py`"  gave me permission denied
12:26 -!- anjori is now known as anjori|tron
12:26 <madmax|pt> btw Lizz, it's me
12:27 <Lizz> :O
12:27 <Lizz> ur m n m?
12:27 <madmax|pt> yes...
12:27 <Lizz> lmfao
12:27 <madmax|pt> lol
12:27 <madmax|pt> but shhh
12:27 <Lizz> ok nps will keep it zipped lolol
12:28  * Lizz slaps max for killing her
12:28 <noob> this rocks :D
12:28 <madmax|pt> its funny all those names they tried
12:28 <Lizz> thought u were zop lol
12:28 <noob> #last --from nemo* --with http://p
12:28 <armabot> noob: [22:27:03] <nemostultae> Random name update. this one resets to your normal name, so next time you start up arma normally you have your regular name: http://pastie.caboo.se/4412
12:28 <madmax|pt> please, nooooo
12:29 <Lizz> brb need a smoke
12:29 <madmax|pt> zop quad binds
12:29 <madmax|pt> lol
12:30 <noob> huh?
12:30 <noob> how the hell you quadbind on 5 rubber
12:30 <noob> i can barely triple
12:30 <noob> actually
12:30 <noob> i don't triple
12:30 <noob> i just press the keys fast enough to look like a triple
12:32 <Lizz> i cant dbl bind in there anyway lol
12:32 <Lizz> bloody ping
12:32 <Lizz> need an aussie fort
12:32 <Lizz> as if *rolls her eyes*
12:33 -!- MaZuffeR [n=MaZuffeR@dsl-hkigw6-fe52de00-104.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #armagetron
12:33 <Lizz> hiya mazzzzzzzzzzzzz
12:34 <anjori|tron> wild fortress > bigfarm
12:34 <Lizz> ?
12:34 <anjori|tron> *bugfarm
12:35 <Lizz> k
12:36 <madmax|pt> nooo
12:37 <+wrtlprnft> Lizz: there's someone who has a server in japan...
12:37 <+wrtlprnft> that should be bearable, i hope
12:39 <madmax|pt> aussie = ?
12:39 <noob> australia
12:39 <+wrtlprnft> that upside down continent with kangaroos jk
12:39 -!- MaZuffeR [n=MaZuffeR@dsl-hkigw6-fe52de00-104.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit ["Leaving"]
12:41 <madmax|pt> lol
12:50 -!- joda_bo1 [n=anonymou@dslb-084-061-029-214.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #armagetron
13:01 <Lizz> omg so many wr's in fort servers now >.<
13:01 <Lizz> japan still hold a 300 ping for me
13:01 <Lizz> holds*
13:02 <Lizz> need something more sth of the equator :P
13:04 <noob> mm
13:04  * noob looks for australia shells
13:05 <Lizz> :)
13:05 <Lizz> but no americans would play.. they couldnt handle a 300 ping lmao.. not good enuff :P
13:06 <Lizz> they just piss and moan about lag and ping all the time heh
13:06 <noob> um
13:06 <noob> we're on cable
13:06 <noob> you're on adsl
13:06 <noob> or w/e
13:06 <noob> isdn
13:06 <Lizz> still
13:06 <noob> so
13:06 <noob> our pings would be better than 300
13:06 <noob> :p
13:07 <Lizz> i played a AU server.. u shoulda seen the whining lol was pathetic
13:07 <noob> it'd be about the same as the bugfarm server
13:07 <noob> but was the AU server hosted on highspeed (over 10mbit) or on a residental conenction? :)
13:07 <Lizz> dont worry bout it.. they wouldnt play it anyway.. no balls ;-)
13:07 <noob> there's a difference
13:08 <Lizz> brb caaaaaaaaake
13:09 <anjori|tron> la la la la la
13:10  * Lizz throws devils food cake at aaaaaaaaaaaanj
13:10 <anjori|tron> where's my icing, bitch?!
13:10 <Lizz> on the cake ass
13:10 <anjori|tron> heh. every single time, fonkay gets killed a few times, gets annoyed, and leaves.
13:11 <Lizz> of course
13:11  * Lizz bites her tongue
13:11 <anjori|tron> indeed
13:11 -!- anjori|tron is now known as anjori
13:12 <Lizz> maaaaan i shoulda just tked those idiots :D
13:12 <anjori> though you do the same!
13:13 <noob> how much is 1.50 euros ?
13:13 <anjori> and then i play all by my lonesome.
13:13 <noob> \in USD
13:13 <anjori> go look it up, you lazy ass
13:13 <Lizz> sorry anj.. they were annoying me.. >.<
13:13 <noob> one to talk beotch
13:13 <anjori> finance.yahoo.com
13:14  * anjori is always looking shit up
13:14 <anjori> i was going to go look for you, but i realized you could do it just as easily
13:14  * Lizz knows that anj needs a life
13:14 <anjori> and a lay
13:14  * Lizz nods
13:14 <anjori> s potato chip
13:14 <Lizz> uve needed that since the day i first met u :P
13:15 <anjori> shush
13:15 <Lizz> heh
13:15 <Lizz> what u buying spider?
13:15 <anjori> a Real Doll
13:16 <Lizz> as opposed to blowup?
13:16 <anjori> http://realdoll.com/
13:17 <Lizz> i wonder where they got my pic? meh
13:18 <anjori> you're The World's Finest Love Doll(tm)?
13:19 <anjori> i'm going to finish my smoke, then you should come back to tron with me
13:19 <Lizz> maybe.... what u gonna give me if i do?
13:22  * Lizz has a headache
13:22 <Lizz> :(
13:23  * noob owns Lizz 
13:24  * Lizz dosent care
13:24  * [Xpert]DarkStar ownz u all
13:25 <Lizz> how much u pay for us?
13:26 <[Xpert]DarkStar> too much
13:26 <[Xpert]DarkStar> should probably sell some
13:26  * noob owns [Xpert]DarkStar 
13:26 <[Xpert]DarkStar> wrong noob I pwn U
13:26 <Lizz> meh.. more fool u for paying so much :P
13:26 <madmax|pt> M&Ms pwns
13:26 <noob> you wish sucker
13:26 <Lizz> lol max
13:26  * noob owns all xD
13:26 <noob> including m&ms
13:27 <madmax|pt> crap Lizz you should have guessed
13:27 <Lizz> melts in ya mouth
13:27 <Lizz> i shoulda known
13:27 <madmax|pt> so you would get the prize eheh
13:27 <Lizz> heh .. i think u want it more than i do :P
13:27 <madmax|pt> lol
13:27 <Lizz> too funny lol
13:28 <madmax|pt> people almost never guess my name, and they say stupid ones too
13:29 <Lizz> ppl dont kno me so thats even better :D
13:29  * anjori goes back to tronning
13:29 <Lizz> anj
13:30 <anjori> yes ma'am?
13:30 <Lizz> u back in wild?
13:30 <noob> as the great and allmighty spidey once did
13:30  * noob owns you all
13:30 <anjori> yes
13:30 <anjori> well, will be in a second
13:30 <Lizz> lmao stfu son :P
13:30 <Lizz> ugh ok anj
13:31 <Lizz> dunno if i wanna go there :(
13:32 <anjori> well, that's where you can find me, if you do
13:32 <noob> Lizz, wanna come to my server with me and fire?
13:32 <anjori> you get frustrated too easily. i just say fuck 'em.
13:32 <Lizz> i will spider.. i wanna try ur server with players
13:33 <noob> :D
13:33 <noob> k
13:33 <Lizz> yes i do anj.. i get tired of being surrounded by idiots
13:33 <Lizz> esp ones that wanna kick me ..<
13:33 <Lizz> >
13:34 <anjori> you let one single idiot influence you that easily? the assclown was there just to start trouble.
13:34 <an