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Log from 2006-07-10:
--- Day changed Mon Jul 10 2006
00:03 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5609 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tron/ (gCycle.cpp gCycle.h gCycleMovement.cpp gCycleMovement.h): More high timestep accuracy fixes to rubber code. The beginning of rubber usage is now precisely simulated to, we at least try to do the same for the end of rubber usage (it's less important there).
00:04 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5610 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Streamlined delays. Less delays are made, the console output is no longer forced between rounds, making ping measurements less bouncy then.
00:05 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5611 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tools/tConfiguration.cpp: Disabled veto debug messages.
00:08 <wrtlprnft> spidey: the whole point eas
00:08 <wrtlprnft> spidey: was to not open the case
00:08 <spidey> why not?
00:08 <wrtlprnft> #u
00:08 <spidey> it's just a few skrews
00:08 <armabot> spidey: 00:08:03 up 79 days, 11 min, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
00:08 <wrtlprnft> isn't screws at all
00:08 <spidey> well
00:08 <spidey> then what's the problem?
00:08 <wrtlprnft> but I'd have to lose that uptime for that
00:08 <spidey> no you wouldn't....
00:08 <spidey> i open my case all the time without shutting down
00:09 <wrtlprnft> well
00:09 <wrtlprnft> the server is trapped between my desk and the wall
00:09 <wrtlprnft> and some of the cables are too short to pull it out
00:09 <wrtlprnft> including the power one
00:09 <spidey> move the desk?
00:09 <wrtlprnft> uh, nothanks
00:09 <wrtlprnft> too much stuff on it and in its drawers
00:10 <wrtlprnft> uh, and the stuff in one of the drawers includes a huge power bar everything is plugged into
00:13 <spidey> what domain should i get
00:13 <wrtlprnft> and anyways, you're talking to a hardware noob. I couldn't disguinish a sdram module from a ddr one if it doesn't have "DDR" or "SDRAM" printed on it
00:13 <wrtlprnft> in big red letters, that is
00:13 <spidey> wrtlprnft, it says on the ram....
00:14 <wrtlprnft> in big red letters?
00:14 <spidey> no
00:14 <spidey> lol
00:14 <spidey> ok
00:15  * wrtlprnft doesn't even know for sure if it's DDR ram or DRR ram
00:15 <wrtlprnft> RDD? RRD? RRR? DDD? RDR? DRD?
00:17 <spidey> lol
00:17 <spidey> it's ddr
00:17 <spidey> there's 
00:17 <spidey> DDR
00:17 <spidey> DDR2
00:17 <spidey> sd
00:17 <mkzelda> rd is another
00:17 <spidey> dimm
00:17 <spidey> simm
00:17 <spidey> rd ?
00:17 <spidey> O_o
00:17 <mkzelda> RDRAM
00:17 <mkzelda> its on this computer
00:17 <mkzelda> rambus
00:17 <spidey> wrtlprnft, when you add the ram you're gonna lose the uptime anyways
00:17 <spidey> :)
00:18 <mkzelda> 400mhz rambus was out when competition only had 133mhz
00:18 <mkzelda> got abandoned due to retarded licensing
00:18 <mkzelda> intel only
00:18 <mkzelda> boycotted even
00:18 <mkzelda> rambus made dumb business moves
00:18 <mkzelda> now they have ram measured in ghz in R&D
00:19 <spidey> O_o
00:19 <mkzelda> they're so far ahead of their time and they're so gonna fuck it up again
00:19 <spidey> dude
00:19 <spidey> my ram's only clocked at 133mhz
00:19 <spidey> :/
00:20 <mkzelda> i bought up a ton of p4 motherboards that support rdram
00:20 <mkzelda> cause they're nice/solid
00:20 <spidey> mmm
00:20 <mkzelda> i have 15 or so unused p4 motherboards
00:20 <wrtlprnft> spidey: i know i will then
00:20 <spidey> gimme one!
00:21 <mkzelda> support 1.3-2.0ghz socket 423, and 2.0-2.2ghz 478's
00:21 <wrtlprnft> but that might be a while until i get up and actually buy the stuff
00:21 <mkzelda> just bought 2x1.3ghz procs for $5 + $10 s/h on ebay
00:21 <spidey> whoa
00:21 <spidey> O_o
00:21 <mkzelda> a 1.6ghz for $20
00:21 <mkzelda> shipped
00:21 <spidey> omg
00:22 <madmax|pt> o_O
00:22 <mkzelda> i'll sell you a board for for whatever shipping costs + $10
00:22 <mkzelda> i bought 40
00:22 <mkzelda> at one point
00:22 <mkzelda> still have 15 or so left
00:22 <spidey> gimme a few days, and i'll see
00:22 <spidey> paypal takes forever to transfer funds
00:23 <spidey> i still got $40 waiting to be transfered from 2 days ago
00:23 <spidey> :/
00:23 <wrtlprnft> #night
00:23 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
00:24 <mkzelda>  they are intel boards
00:24 <mkzelda> Intel D850GB, drawbacks are usb1.1 and agp 4x
00:24 <spidey> supprt p4's?
00:24 <spidey> i gotta p4 at 2.2ghz
00:24 <mkzelda> older (socket 423) p4s
00:24 <mkzelda> and sock 478 w/ a $10 adapter
00:24 <mkzelda> up to 2.2ghz
00:24 <spidey> 3 years olds
00:25 <spidey> i think
00:25 <mkzelda> and they support a lot more ram than they claim
00:25 <spidey> it's the default in the first deminsion 2400's
00:25 <mkzelda> it claims to only support pc600 and pc800
00:25 <mkzelda> but i have not only put pc700 and pc1066 in it, i've mixed the two
00:25 <mkzelda> rdram has to be installed in pairs
00:25 <mkzelda> i had the pairs matching
00:25 <mkzelda> but a pair of pc700 and a pair of 1066
00:26 <mkzelda> and it worked, and the bios reported them as such
00:26 <mkzelda> and the os ran smoothly
00:26 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5612 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/ (10 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)
00:26 <armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 5607 to 5611:
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00:26 <armabot> armagetronad:  r5611 | z-man | 2006-07-10 00:05:16 +0200 (Mon, 10 Jul 2006) | 1 line
00:26 <armabot> armagetronad:  Disabled veto debug messages.
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00:26 <armabot> armagetronad:  r5610 | z-man | 2006-07-10 00:04:45 +0200 (Mon, 10 Jul 2006) | 1 line
00:27 <mkzelda> http://computers.listings.ebay.com/Memory-for-Desktop-PC_RDRAM_W0QQfclZ1QQfromZ1883QQlotrZ4QQsacatZ11152QQsocmdZListingItemList
00:27 <mkzelda> the ram is the most expensive part you'll find w/ these boards, cause thats the advantage of them
00:27 <mkzelda> but u can see the prices there
00:27 <mkzelda> and decide if you're still interested
00:27 <mkzelda> and remember u must install in pairs (and u must put in CRIMMS in any blank spots)
00:28 <mkzelda> Continuity rimms
00:28 <mkzelda> they're just blanks
00:28 <mkzelda> they cost $1 each
00:28 <mkzelda> i can sell ya 2 w/ the board if needed, if u decide u want one
00:29 <spidey> O_o
00:29 <mkzelda> i get the ram cheap by buying single rdram sticks, since they must be installed in pairs and someone only has one to get rid of
00:34 <spidey> actually
00:34 <spidey> i won't be able to next month
00:34 <spidey> but gimme a bit
00:34 <spidey> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1717760&CatId=318    <<< i'm getting that
00:34 <spidey> ;x
00:36 <mkzelda> i live right by a tigerdirect
00:36 <mkzelda> thats where i bought the 40 motherboards
00:36 <mkzelda> heh
00:36 <mkzelda> they know me there
00:37 <spidey> lol
00:38 <mkzelda> thats $10 cheaper than anywhere else i can find
00:38 <spidey>  Maximum Resolution   	2048 x 1536 @ 60Hz
00:38 <spidey> i'll love that
00:38 <spidey> i'm at 1280x1024 right now
00:38 <spidey> and still need more room
00:38 <spidey> lol
00:39 <mkzelda> i try to avoid the rebates from there tho
00:39 <spidey> mmm
00:39 <mkzelda> a lot of times i'll submit one and the company will write back and say i dont qualify
00:39 <spidey> LOL'
00:40 <spidey> Operating Systems Support
00:40 <spidey>     * Windows� XP (Home or Professional)
00:40 <spidey>     * Windows� XP Media Center 2005�
00:40 <spidey> awe man
00:40 <Lucifer_arma> I'm at 1280x800 and find plenty of room
00:40 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, x800!!!???
00:40 <spidey> pssh i wouldn't live
00:41 <Lucifer_arma> I am spread across 4 desktops, though
00:41 <Lucifer_arma> so it's really 1280x800x4 :)
00:41 <spidey> i got 2,and both are usually loaded down
00:41 <Lucifer_arma> that's with a 80pixel wide kicker on the right side of the desktop, too
00:41 <spidey> O_o
00:42 <mkzelda> my server has 3 heads
00:42 <Lucifer_arma> my dick has 4 heads
00:42 <mkzelda> crazy
00:42 <mkzelda> thats taking dpg to a new level
00:42 <Lucifer_arma> I can satisfy 4 people at once, provided they lay really close to each other
00:42 <spidey> lol
00:43 <mkzelda> i make videos, we'll talk
00:43  * Lucifer_arma thinks he just bombed his calc test
00:43 <mkzelda> i know this chick w/ 2 buttholes, so u can fill 3 holes and have her jerk the other off
00:44 <mkzelda> or maybe doubly penetrate the vag
00:44 <Lucifer_arma> well, she has to have real little hands, because the 5-inch length is divided by the 4 heads
00:44 <mkzelda> so its more like a mushroom cluster
00:44 <spidey> http://cgi.ebay.com/2GB-Infineon-2x-1G-PC2100-DDR-ECC-266MHz-184-Pin-RAM_W0QQitemZ250006068904QQihZ015QQcategoryZ74942QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
00:45 <spidey> i might get that
00:45 <spidey> O_o
00:46 <spidey> er
00:46 <spidey> i can't
00:46 <spidey> forgot
00:46 <spidey> my board uses pc2700
00:46 <spidey> :/
00:47 <mkzelda> you can go lower
00:47 <mkzelda> usually
00:47 <mkzelda> u just dont want to
00:48 <spidey> actually
00:48 <mkzelda> my ram has leds on it like kit
00:48 <spidey> i can't remember what type
00:48 <Lucifer_arma> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5162510.stm  <-- Bloods and Crips, anyone?
00:48 <spidey> i know both box's use the same type
00:48 <spidey> bloods
00:48 <spidey> crypts
00:48 <spidey> hold on lemme find this cd
00:49 <mkzelda> bloods own the territory where i work
00:49 <mkzelda> all the kids who come to my pool try to teach me the handshake
00:49 <mkzelda> they call cigarettes bigarettes
00:49 <mkzelda> they're pretty stupid
00:49 <mkzelda> hehe
00:50 <spidey> ok
00:50 <spidey> my brother ( the fuckin idiot) wrote this
00:50 <spidey> it's on a cd for some reason
00:50 <spidey> BLOODZ BANG RED CRIPZ BANG BLUE I BANG ANY BITCH THAT FUCKS WIT U SEND THIS 2 ALL
00:50 <spidey> THA REAL HOMMIES THAT U KNO WILL ALWAYZ B THERE 4 U WHEN U NEED EM UR ENEMY STABS 
00:50 <spidey> U IN DA FRONT...... UR FRIEND STABS U IN DA BACK...... UR GIRLFRIEND/BOYFRIEND 
00:50 <spidey> STABS U IN DA HEART..... BUT ME, UR GOOD FRIEND CARRIES A KNIFE TO STAB THOSE 
00:50 <spidey> MUTHAFUCKAS RIGHT BACK...... HoMiEs TiLL ThE FuCkIn EnD !! AnD AfTeR ThAt We StILL 
00:50 <spidey> RiDe In H3AvEn! ThI Is A TeSt T0 SeE H0W MaNy H0M13S Y0u H4v3...
00:50 <madmax|pt> o_O
00:50 <spidey> yar
00:51 <spidey> he's also in a kiddie prison now
00:51 <mkzelda> how'd he fit that on a cd
00:51 <spidey> for 6-8 months
00:51 <spidey> lol
00:51 <mkzelda> really thin sharpee?
00:51 <spidey> hahahaha
00:51 <Lucifer_arma> I used to know the BK and the CK signs, and I'd use them opposite what they're supposed to be used
00:51 <spidey> no a .txt
00:51 <Lucifer_arma> i.e. if I was with a blood, I'd show him BK, and if I was with a crip, I'd show CK
00:51 <mkzelda> yea i was kidding
00:51 <Lucifer_arma> I was exempt from retaliation by virtue of worshipping the devil :)
00:52 <mkzelda> haha
00:52 <spidey> haha
00:52 <mkzelda> im a white boy with an afro
00:52 <mkzelda> i fit in w/ just about anyone b/c i shouldnt fit in w/ anyone
00:52 <Lucifer_arma> just tell them you worship satan, those gangsters are little pussies
00:52 <spidey> tell them you raped there mother
00:52 <spidey> then see if they're still pussies
00:52 <spidey> :p
00:52 <Lucifer_arma> I worked with a crip back at the burger joint, and he used to talk all this shit to me
00:53 <Lucifer_arma> one night I got tired of it and went off back at him, and he backed down to "wait till I have my friends with me"
00:53 <Lucifer_arma> which of course turned into "You need your friends to take me?  You little wuss <long string of curses>"
00:53 <mkzelda> i kicked a kid out the other day who kept running his mouth. a coworker told him to 'stfu, nobody loves you'
00:53 <spidey> hahaha
00:53 <mkzelda> haha, he did and hasnt run his mouth since
00:53 <mkzelda> that cut deeper than anything anyone says
00:54 <mkzelda> he actually processed it and realized nobody loves him
00:54 <Lucifer_arma> ouch
00:54 <Lucifer_arma> heh
00:54 <Lucifer_arma> next time I saw this guy with his friends, they just sat there and tried to pretend I wsn't there.  Hard to do with me standing 10 feet from them staring at each in turn,
00:54 <mkzelda> yea, i got in a fight w/ a 300+ lb guy a few years ago, he went and got 5 more 300+ lb guys
00:54 <Lucifer_arma> but oh well.
00:54 <mkzelda> i dont even way 150
00:55 <mkzelda> weigh
00:55 <mkzelda> he was calling me a pussy cause i wouldnt come out of my dorm room
00:55 <mkzelda> but who's the pussy w/ 1500lbs
00:55 <Lucifer_arma> well, I was just thinking the correct counter was to go get your car...
00:56 <mkzelda> was dorm room battle, had no resources other than my room
00:57 <spidey> grab a brick or something
00:57 <mkzelda> i did a lot of yelling at him from my window and he backed down, i guess cause he didnt think i'd even go that far, intimidation apparently always worked for him
00:57 <spidey> crack it on there head
00:57 <spidey> xD
00:57 <spidey> besides
00:57 <spidey> they're all 300+kbs?
00:57 <spidey> they gotta be slow :p
00:57 <Lucifer_arma> 300+kbs is pretty fast...
00:57 <spidey> just run around
00:57 <spidey> lol
00:57 <spidey> 300+lbs!
00:58 <Lucifer_arma> just piss on them, probably vain as hell
00:58 <Lucifer_arma> and damn, if the mutherfucker's crazy enough to piss on me, what else is he gonna do?
00:58 <spidey> LOL
00:59 <mkzelda> there was no way out
00:59 <mkzelda> he pissed on my door
00:59 <mkzelda> when i wouldnt leave
00:59 <mkzelda> :/
00:59 <spidey> lol
00:59 <mkzelda> fun days
01:00 <Lucifer_arma> I gotta admit, I've always wanted an opportunity to try out my guitar as a weapon, and that's mostly to see the psychological impact of a long-haired unshaven guy wielding a black lightning bolt
01:00 <Lucifer_arma> besides, it'll probably make a good stabber, seeing as how the head ends on a sharp point :)
01:00 <mkzelda> haha i do have a crazy lookin pointy guitar
01:01 <mkzelda> or use the strings where u clip them to cut
01:01 <mkzelda> slice
01:01 <mkzelda> x6
01:01 <Lucifer_arma> I always consider it a bludgeoning weapon
01:02 <Lucifer_arma> and if the strings and bridge do damage along the way, so much the better, long as it doesn't get stuck to anybody's face
01:02 <mkzelda>  yea its hard to play guitar w/s omeone';s face stuck to the end
01:02 <guru3> i want to disapear :(
01:03 <Lucifer_arma> but I think of the scene at the end of the Nothing But A Good Time video where the lead singer swings the guitar around by the strap and trashes it
01:03 <guru3> parents just got back from their trip
01:03 <guru3> and now they're all mad @ me
01:03 <Lucifer_arma> ah oh
01:03 <guru3> i do believe
01:03 <guru3> they've already stuck me in the
01:03 <guru3> 'fuck up' collimn
01:03 <Lucifer_arma> wanna borrow my guitar, guru3 ?
01:03 <guru3> *collumn
01:03 <guru3> can't play the guitar :/
01:03 <spidey> LOL
01:03 <mkzelda> what'd u do?
01:03 <mkzelda> throw a party while they're gone?
01:03 <guru3> exam results
01:04 <spidey> O_o
01:04 <guru3> i only graduated damnit
01:04 <mkzelda> oh
01:04 <guru3> should have not graduated
01:04 <guru3> probably wouldn't be any angrier
01:04 <guru3> and i coulda done less work
01:04 <Lucifer_arma> needed a 6 6 5 and got a 6 5 5
01:04 <guru3> "oh god! a passing grade! shame on you!"
01:04 <spidey> heh
01:04 <mkzelda> yea stupid
01:04 <mkzelda> why'd u do that
01:04 <spidey> was it a low passing grade?
01:04 <Lucifer_arma> well, when I was a kid, I established quite early for my parents that they couldn't talk enough shit to get me to do better in school, and they were happy I graduated
01:04 <guru3> "you may not go to a first tier engineering school! whatever will we do!"
01:04 <mkzelda> haha
01:05 <guru3> "better learn swedish so you can go to school for free!"
01:05 <spidey> lol
01:05 <mkzelda> i used to lie to my parents about my grades
01:05 <guru3> honestly.
01:05 <guru3> what are they thinking
01:05 <mkzelda> but i'd always low-ball it
01:05 <mkzelda> so they'd be pleasantly surprised
01:05 <guru3> they should try taking it well that i didn't lie damnit
01:05 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, I had to have them sign the thing, and I couldn't forge for shit
01:05 <mkzelda> i mostly got straight a's
01:05 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, sign it eh
01:06 <mkzelda> and i'd tell them i had a C
01:06 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, i just pretended to lose mine
01:06 <guru3> mkzelda: "pleasently suprised"
01:06 <Lucifer_arma> oh.  Heh, I think I got maybe 4 As total in high school
01:06 <spidey> lol
01:06 <mkzelda> any time they asked
01:06 <guru3> that's my phrase heh
01:06 <guru3> i need "a clear picture of what i need to do"
01:06 <Lucifer_arma> see if you can go to UT instead, it's first-tier engineering, isn't it?
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01:06 <mkzelda> utwente?
01:06 <Lucifer_arma> as a backup plan, of course
01:06 <Lucifer_arma> no, University of Texas
01:07 <guru3> could i come & live with you? ><
01:07 <Lucifer_arma> heh, I don't have enough bedrooms for the kids I already have here.  :(
01:07 <guru3> maybe if i'd convince them it'd be cheaper :/
01:07  * Lucifer_arma wonders if it would be cheaper, UT's expensive
01:07 <guru3> i could probably survive living in a tent in the back yard
01:07 <guru3> well striking the uni
01:07 <guru3> could i just live in the backyard?
01:08 <Lucifer_arma> I think it's ~$20,000/year if you stay in a dorm
01:08 <guru3> feels like that'd be preferable at the moment
01:08 <spidey> anyone got teamspeak?
01:08  * spidey needs to test this thingy
01:08 <Lucifer_arma> ummm, that's for in-state
01:09 <mkzelda> hows this teamspeak work
01:09 <mkzelda> i want it
01:09 <spidey> it's voice chat
01:09 <spidey> and you need a mic :p
01:09 <spidey> lucifer you got it don't you??
01:09 <mkzelda> ill use some headphones if i have to'
01:09 <spidey> www.goteamspeak.com
01:09 <mkzelda> sounds like crap :)
01:10 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.utexas.edu/business/accounting/sar/t_f_rates.html
01:10 <guru3> gargh this sucks
01:10 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: I don't have it since I had to restore my system
01:10 <spidey> :/
01:10 <spidey> guru3 don't you got it? O_o
01:10 <guru3> i do
01:11 <spidey> teamspeak.spidey.no-ip.org   << try to connect to that
01:11 <guru3> but like fuck am i going to make noise right now
01:11 <spidey> you don't have to,just try to connect :)
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01:11 <guru3> nope
01:11 <guru3> don't think i will
01:11 <spidey> :(
01:12 <guru3> /bin/sh: teamspeak.spidey.no-ip.org: command not found
01:12 <guru3> teamspeak.spidey.no-ip.org does not exist, try again
01:12 <spidey> ?
01:12 <spidey> you can't ping it or anything
01:12 <guru3> your hostname
01:12 <guru3> is non existent
01:12 <spidey> of course
01:12 <spidey> it's a subdomain
01:12 <guru3> so i'm betting trying to connect
01:12 <spidey> it won't show
01:12 <spidey> :p
01:12 <guru3> wouldn't owrk
01:12 <spidey> now
01:13 <guru3> ?
01:13 <spidey> spidey.no-ip.org
01:13 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.engineering-colleges.info/Search/Top_Ranked/top_undergrad.htm
01:13 <spidey> that works
01:13 <Lucifer_arma> UT is at least in the top 50, that list is alphabetical order
01:13 <spidey> teamspeak.spidey.no-ip.org doesn't because it's a subdomain
01:14 <Vanhayes> damnit, whenever you do that my armagetron client pauses
01:14 <spidey> lol
01:14 <Lucifer_arma> it's also us-centric
01:14 <Lucifer_arma> whenever I do what?
01:15 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.engineering-colleges.info/Profiles2/U_Texas_Austin.htm
01:16 <Lucifer_arma> in the top 10 for most of its engineering programs, a few are in the teens instead.  You could do worse.  :)
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01:16 <Lucifer_arma> "most" should be read as "about half"
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01:43 <spidey> wtf @ this country station playing old ass music
01:44 <spidey> gah
01:44 <spidey> i ran outta water
01:44 <spidey> guess i'm drinking orange juice with my chicken :/
01:50 <Vanhayes> orange juice is good
01:50 <spidey> i like water better
01:50 <spidey> it's all i drink
01:50 <spidey> i drink 6 16.9oz bottles a day
01:50 <spidey> if not more
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02:04 <Vanhayes> #g s6.9 oz in litres
02:04 <armabot> Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
02:04 <Vanhayes> #g 6.9 oz in litres
02:04 <armabot> 6.9 US fluid ounces = 0.204057355 litres
02:04 <Vanhayes> #g 0.204057355 * 6
02:04 <armabot> 0.204057355 * 6 = 1.22434413
02:05 <Vanhayes> #g 6.9 oz in litres *6
02:05 <armabot> Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
02:05 <Vanhayes> #g 6.9 oz in litres * 6
02:05 <armabot> Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
02:06 <Vanhayes> I like juice, it tastes better than water
02:07 <madmax|pt> you should drink 1.5 litres a day :P
02:07 <spidey> um
02:08 <spidey> they're 500ml bottles
02:08 <spidey> 16.9oz = 500ml
02:08 <spidey> :)
02:08 <madmax|pt> glup
02:09 <madmax|pt> nvm then
02:09 <madmax|pt> lol
02:09 <spidey> #g 16.9oz in liter
02:09 <armabot> 16.9 US fluid ounces = 0.499792652 liter
02:09 <spidey> 16.9*6
02:09 <madmax|pt> liter, litres o_O
02:09 <spidey> #g 16.9*6
02:09 <armabot> 16.9 * 6 = 101.4
02:09 <spidey> #g 101oz in liters
02:09 <armabot> 101 US fluid ounces = 2.9869265 liters
02:09 <spidey> i drink that much
02:09 <spidey> :)
02:09 <spidey> or more
02:10  * spidey continues to compile gyachE
02:11 <madmax|pt> what's that?
02:11 <spidey> a yahoo client
02:11 <spidey> with voice
02:12  * madmax|pt goes to bed.
02:12 <madmax|pt> good night
02:12 <spidey> cya
02:13 <Vanhayes> night madmax|pt 
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02:22 <nemostultae> hi
02:23 <Vanhayes> hello
02:30 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r5613 /tools/map-preview/ (. branches/ tags/ trunk/): map-preview directories
02:34 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r5614 /tools/map-preview/trunk/ (17 files in 6 dirs): importing map-preview
02:38 <spidey> 97% [=================================> ] 45,462,560   676.48K/s    ETA 00:01
02:38 <spidey> :>
02:39 <nemostultae> :<
02:41 <spidey> 90% [==============================>    ] 42,047,024     9.30M/s    ETA 00:00
02:41 <spidey> pwn
02:41 <spidey> i need a faster server to test the speed of this server
02:42 <spidey> i got 9mb/s off a 1gbps server
02:42 <Vanhayes> it went from 97% to 90& ?
02:42 <Vanhayes> er 90%*
02:43 <spidey> no
02:43 <spidey> the first download
02:43 <spidey> was from a 1gbps server
02:43 <spidey> the second
02:43 <spidey> was from a gbit server
02:45 <Vanhayes> I see
02:47 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r5615 /tools/map-preview/trunk/ (. Rakefile):
02:47 <armabot> armagetronad: * Ignore generated files
02:47 <armabot> armagetronad: * coverage should go in doc/
02:47 <Vanhayes> argh thats the stuff that laggs me
02:47 <nemostultae> the commit messages?
02:47 <Vanhayes> yes
02:47 <Vanhayes> 3 little skips while playing tron
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02:58  * spidey trips Fonkay 
02:58 <Vanhayes> hey fonkay
03:06 <Fonkay> hey
03:07 <spidey> bah
03:07 <nemostultae> moo?
03:07 <spidey> acid@server [~/tron/armagetronad-linux-0.2.7.1]# ./install
03:07 <spidey> Making directories...
03:07 <spidey> install: cannot change permissions of `/usr/local/bin': Operation not permitted
03:07 <spidey> Installation failed. Bin folder does not exist and cannot be created.
03:09 <luke-jr_> spidey: you're not root
03:09 <spidey> yar
03:09 <luke-jr_> spidey: build from source?
03:09 <spidey> not sure how i would do that,i can't compile on the server
03:09 <luke-jr_> why not?
03:10 <Vanhayes> #google fonsac
03:10 <armabot> Vanhayes: Search took 0.18 seconds: The Round Table of Bretonnia - Literature: <http://www.roundtable-bretonnia.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=category&sectionid=4&id=40&Itemid=27>; The Round Table of Bretonnia - Literature: <http://www.roundtable-bretonnia.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=section&id=4&Itemid=27>; FONSAC :::: Servicios Integrales: <http://www.fonsac.com/>; (2 more messages)
03:10 <luke-jr_> and why are you using such an old version?
03:10 <Vanhayes> er
03:10 <spidey> luke-jr_, the new version won't install
03:10 <spidey> sec
03:11 <Fonkay> hi again
03:12 <spidey> luke-jr_, 
03:12 <spidey> An error occured while trying to ask the user for the password: Unable to allocate a pseudo terminal: Exec format error
03:12 <spidey> Attempting to continue without asking for password...
03:12 <spidey> autopackage/install: line 1: /sbin/ldconfig: No such file or directory
03:12 <spidey> The version of glib needs to be upgraded to version 2.0 or higher.
03:12 <spidey> The autopackage support code could not be installed.
03:12 <spidey> It can be manually downloaded and installed by running the
03:12 <spidey> installation script located in the downloaded archive.
03:12 <Fonkay> sstupid arma
03:12 <luke-jr_> I see
03:13 <spidey> and i forget why i can't compile it on the server
03:13 <spidey> something about the libs i think
03:14 <luke-jr_> checking how to run the C preprocessor... /lib/cpp
03:14 <luke-jr_> configure: error: C preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
03:14 <luke-jr_> See `config.log' for more details.
03:14 <spidey> ?
03:14 <luke-jr_> that's why
03:14 <spidey> anything i can do?
03:17 <luke-jr_> ./armagetronad-dedicated-0.2.8.2.i686-generic-linux-gnu.package -x
03:17 <luke-jr_> acid@server [~/aa/armagetronad-dedicated-0.2.8.2.i686-generic-linux-gnu/bin]# ./armagetronad-dedicated
03:17 <luke-jr_> [0] Bound socket to *.*.*.*:49331.
03:17 <luke-jr_> tada
03:17 <spidey> O_o
03:17 <luke-jr_> /home/acid/aa/armagetronad-dedicated-0.2.8.2.i686-generic-linux-gnu/bin/armagetronad-dedicated
03:18 <luke-jr_> have fun
03:18 <spidey> sweet xD
03:18 <spidey> now how'd you do that O_o
03:19 <luke-jr_> -x on the autopackage
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03:19 <spidey> mmm
03:19 <luke-jr_> it extracts the files instead of trying to install
03:19 <spidey> ah
03:19 <spidey> thanks,lol
03:19 <spidey> now to find it on the list
03:19 <spidey> lol
03:19 <spidey> oh,brb dogs
03:20 <luke-jr_> gotta put a name and stuff
03:20 <luke-jr_> lol
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03:27 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r5616 /tools/map-preview/trunk/lib/map_preview/parser.rb: Should only add Point to map model if in Wall element. ShapeCircle has a Point element, too.
03:27 <spidey> the server still running?
03:27 <spidey> i let the 2 labs in the house and the chihuahua went nuts
03:27 <spidey> lmao
03:28 <luke-jr_> no
03:28 <spidey> k
03:29 <spidey> i'll just make a autoexec.cfg
03:29 <luke-jr_> you need to make server_info.cfg
03:29 <luke-jr_> and run it in the bg
03:29 <luke-jr_> autoexec.cfg is client, not server
03:29 <spidey> it works for the server to :)
03:29 <luke-jr_> o
03:29 <luke-jr_> where's it go
03:29 <luke-jr_> I could use that
03:29 <spidey> in the config dir
03:29 <luke-jr_> so people don't change my server name >:O
03:29 <spidey> haha
03:30 <spidey> could put the server name in a everytime.cfg
03:31 <Vanhayes> if you can you might want to disable kick, kill, and ban commands
03:31 <spidey> you can't
03:31 <spidey> not when they got the admin pass
03:31 <spidey> :p
03:32 <luke-jr_> spidey: unless I change code
03:32 <spidey> true
03:32 <luke-jr_> I've been meaning to anyway
03:32 <luke-jr_> to add a respawn command
03:33 <luke-jr_> how do you use the kick command anyhow?
03:33 <luke-jr_> and kill
03:33 <spidey>  /admin kill playernumber
03:33 <spidey>  /admin kick playernumber
03:33 <luke-jr_> I try 'kill Vanhayes' and it says no such person
03:33 <spidey> no
03:33 <spidey> first
03:33 <spidey>  /admin players
03:33 <spidey> it gives the numbers
03:33 <spidey> then
03:33 <Vanhayes> ya It should kill me tho
03:33 <luke-jr_> o
03:33 <luke-jr_> ok
03:33 <spidey>  /admin kill playernumber
03:33 <spidey>  /admin kick playernumber
03:34 <spidey> no
03:34 <spidey> it doesn't kill by name
03:34 <spidey> :P
03:34 <luke-jr_> hehe
03:34 <luke-jr_> I should spawn all players twice
03:34 <luke-jr_> nah, it wouldn't work
03:36 <nemostultae> luke-jr_: where is your hexatron map on the resource server?
03:36 <luke-jr_> nemostultae: there is no current hexatron map
03:36 <luke-jr_> someone needs to update it to a recent DTD
03:36 <luke-jr_> which won't be simple, since it used the stack
03:36 <luke-jr_> which is not supported in recent DTDs
03:37 <spidey> mm
03:37 <spidey> how do i disable the winzone?
03:38 <luke-jr_> shrug
03:38 <spidey> OR
03:38 <spidey> should i make it a fortress server?
03:38 <spidey> imagen the pings
03:38 <spidey> ;x
03:39 <Vanhayes> I already did before
03:39 <Vanhayes> pings were good
03:39 <luke-jr_> you know
03:39 <spidey> but
03:39 <spidey> on this server
03:39 <luke-jr_> the code suggests 'kill Vanhayes' should work
03:39 <spidey> pings will be tons low
03:40 <luke-jr_> maybe
03:40 <spidey> lets see
03:41 <spidey> ok
03:41 <spidey> lets see if i can remember how to upload via ssh
03:42 <luke-jr_> scp
03:46 <spidey> -Spidey-US-Fortress  look for it on the list O_o
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04:00 <spidey> wow
04:00 <spidey> even van has a nice ping
04:01 <Vanhayes> decent
04:01 <Vanhayes> a 30 would be nice, 90 is decent
04:01 <spidey> lol
04:01 <spidey> 30 is a admin level ping
04:02 <spidey> unless
04:02 <spidey> you're on the same node as the server
04:02 <spidey> then
04:02 <spidey> you get a admin ping
04:02 <spidey> when i hosted a server here at home and went to my moms
04:02 <spidey> 153+miles away
04:02 <spidey> i had a 16 ping in it
04:09 <Vanhayes> I just got silenced for 3000 seconds
04:10 <spidey> lol
04:15 <Vanhayes> nice
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04:22 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r5617 /tools/map-preview/trunk/lib/map_preview/renderer.rb: Draw spawn points as arrows. Still needs a little work
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05:17 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r5618 /tools/map-preview/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
05:17 <armabot> armagetronad: * Added #with_viewbox and adapted the rendering to use it
05:17 <armabot> armagetronad: * Corrected parameters passed into #viewbox
05:17 <armabot> armagetronad: * Added min bounds to the map model
05:17 <armabot> armagetronad: * Corrected a small typo in the NEWS.txt file
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05:23 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r5619 /tools/map-preview/trunk/lib/map_preview/renderer.rb: Don't compute viewbox width and height everytime
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> mmmmmmmmm
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> heh
05:37 <spidey> luci
05:37 <spidey> come to my sumo server :p
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> hey nemostultae , I just made a bunch of breakfast burritos and put them in the freezer :)
05:37 <spidey> it's actually named fortress
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> I grabbed a sharpie and wrote Breakfast Burrito [CA.US] on each one
05:39  * Lucifer_arma isn't telling the truth about writing on the burritos
05:40 <GodTodd> breakfast burritos rule if they're done right
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> that is the truth, GodTodd 
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> I put a pound a bacon, 2 pounds of potatoes, and 9 eggs
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> and threw a yellow onion and like 4 chopped green onions in with the potatoes
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> I'll eat the first one for breakfast tomorrow :)
05:41 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r5620 /tools/map-preview/trunk/lib/map_preview/ (map_model.rb renderer.rb): Spawn points now render correctly
05:41 <GodTodd> i put chorizo in them too sometimes
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> my wife figured they came out about $0.21/each
05:41 <GodTodd> that's about right
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> well, the bacon was sorta determined by her.  I just wanted a pound of meat, I'd have taken chicken or pork or whatever was cheapest.
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> The idea is a good nutritious breakfast that I can make in 2 minutes and eat in the car.  :)
05:42 <GodTodd> yep
05:42 <GodTodd> :)
05:42 <GodTodd> i need to make up a batch myself again
05:42 <nemostultae> hmm, negative coords are still not drawn correctly.
05:42 <GodTodd> we're about out
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> well, I got 25 out of those proportions, and that was with fajita-sized tortillas.  I can probably go up one size, not quite the burrito size, the one in between, and still get about 20 out of it
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> so, double everything to get 40, etc.  :)
05:43 <GodTodd> yep
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> only, I don't quite have a pan big enough.  Hmmm....
05:43 <GodTodd> i make them in the stock pot i have
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> nemostultae: you might check out the acme code in the old pygame version that Luke preserved
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> that problem is solved there to some extent
05:44 <GodTodd> could probably make a batch of 60-80 if i maxed it out...:)
05:44 <GodTodd> :)
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> I have a pot big enough to throw the stuff all in together, but it's like really big
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> it's huge
05:44 <nemostultae> I had it solved in the original map-preview, too. I switched this one to draw using a vector format so it is easier to scale and stuff.
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> I guess it depends on what you're after, too.  I like the potatoes to have little fried edges, too.
05:45 <GodTodd> true true
05:45 <Lucifer_arma> I'd have to give that up to cook in the large pot, or do the potatoes in two batches
05:45  * Lucifer_arma doesn't know anything about vector formats
05:45 <nemostultae> http://www.imagemagick.org/RMagick/doc/rvgtut.html :)
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> the bacon was a nice bonus, though.  I'd have gladly mixed some ground pork with some salt, peppercorns, and basil and called it sausage
05:46 <GodTodd> i get a decent amount of bacon for free....so i always have that on hand
05:47 <GodTodd> well...not free...but just about
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> ahhhh, it's the same origin problem you've got, I suppose
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> in acme I did some weird origin math on the fly
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> wait, does your origin in svg have to be the same as in pixmaps?  Where 0,0 is top-left?
05:49 <nemostultae> I set the origin the min bounds of the map
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> aha, I see the stuff about the coordinate system
05:50 <Lucifer_arma> so how are you figuring the bounds of the map?
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> like, width should be highest_x - lowest_x, and height is highest_y-lowest_y, right?
05:51 <nemostultae> Yea, I've done that
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> then it'd be nice if you could do two things.  :)  Flip the y axis, and move the origin
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> can you flip the y axis?  (reading to see)
05:52 <nemostultae> hmm, maybe flipping would do it, because the map isn't even in the image
05:53 <nemostultae> I'll flip when the min y bound is negative, maybe
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> well, you either flip the y axis itself, or you have to flip each point
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> well, if you leave the origin in the top left, you have to flip for all points
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> it looks like you have to flip the y coordinates no matter what
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> and that would be highest_y - current_y, iirc
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> the negative signs should take care of themselves, you shouldn't have to do anything special to take care of them
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> if you are, you're doing something wrong :)
05:56 <Lucifer_arma> seems like you want to place your origin at abs(lowest_x, lowest_y)
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> viewbox( abs(lowest_x), abs(lowest_y) , highest_x-lowest_x, highest_y-lowest_y )  <-- here's what I come up with for the viewbox call
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> then you should just need to flip each y coordinate, and make sure you understand the units being used.  :)
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> if I'm reading this webpage correctly (or skimming)
05:57 <nemostultae> hey, looked like that kinda worked
05:59 <nemostultae> hmm, still a little off. It is not coming out looking like this: http://generalconsumption.org/armagetron/map-preview/previews/Your_mom/ni2-0.0.1.png
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> heh
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> that looks pretty similar to one of the development shots of the maze maps :)
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> how does it compare to the original previewer?  Do you have that still up somewhere?
06:00 <nemostultae> The link above is from the original. The new one is in the subversion repo
06:00 <nemostultae> not yet on my site
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> ahhhh
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> ah, ok.  then that's a weird map.....heh
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06:21 <Your_mom_arma> i've been banned from lukes server by someon who isnt luke :-/
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> come on spidey, quit chatting
06:22 <Vanhayes> hmm
06:22  * Vanhayes pokes humanitarian
06:24 <nemostultae> Didn't he give out the admin pass?
06:24 <Your_mom_arma> yeah
06:24 <nemostultae> What is it, I'll uban you
06:24 <Your_mom_arma>  /login admin
06:24 <nemostultae> good pass
06:25 <Your_mom_arma> can you unban ingame?
06:25 <nemostultae> yea
06:26 <nemostultae> ok
06:26 <nemostultae> done
06:27 <Your_mom_arma> thanks
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> who's humanitarian?
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07:06 <mkzelda> how necessary is gcc fortran support that its a default use flag in gentoo profiles?
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07:07 <mkzelda> i mean, i thot fortran was old
07:08 <mkzelda> woooo boost compiling on my best machine
07:09 <mkzelda> just wont work on this one
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07:32 <Vanhayes> spidey, did you server crash?
07:32 <spidey> lucifer
07:32 <Lucifer_arma> spidey?
07:32 <spidey> think we got a bug
07:32 <spidey> [4] Humanitarian: this is with walls that never drop now?
07:32 <spidey> [0] Deleting objects...
07:32 <spidey> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
07:32 <spidey> acid@server [~/aa/armagetronad-dedicated-0.2.8.2.i686-generic-linux-gnu/bin]#   
07:32 <Lucifer_arma> damn
07:32 <Lucifer_arma> that's in the stable release, too, isn't it?
07:32 <spidey> yea
07:32 <spidey> 2.8.2
07:32 <spidey> i restarted it
07:32 <Lucifer_arma> can you post your settings?
07:32 <spidey> um
07:32 <spidey> yea
07:32 <spidey> sec
07:33 <spidey> server_name servernamehere
07:33 <spidey> AMIN_PASS passwordhere
07:33 <spidey> include examples/cvs_test/sumo_complete.cfg
07:33 <spidey> TALK_TO_MASTER 1
07:33 <spidey> size_factor -1
07:33 <spidey> cycle_speed 15
07:33 <spidey> cycle_rubber 12
07:33 <spidey> cycle_accel 15
07:33 <spidey> cycle_brake_deplete .1
07:33 <spidey> walls_length 170
07:33 <Lucifer_arma> I assume there's no server side recording?
07:33 <spidey> nope
07:33 <spidey> :/
07:34 <spidey> know what
07:34 <spidey> i think it's that cycle_Walls_delay thing
07:34 <spidey> cause it was what 3 rounds after i changed it?
07:35 <Lucifer_arma> wasn't it the very next round after you changed it that it crashed?
07:36 <spidey> i think
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07:38 <spidey> yup
07:38 <Vanhayes> crashed?
07:38 <spidey> that's the problem
07:38 <Lucifer_arma> yay
07:38 <Lucifer_arma> I mean, damn, that sucked
07:38 <spidey> sLOL
07:38 <Lucifer_arma> mom was winning
07:38 <Vanhayes> lol
07:38 <spidey> lmao
07:38 <Lucifer_arma> start it in recording mode :)
07:39 <spidey> how?
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> let's make it crash again :)
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> armagetronad-dedicated --help ?
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> I think its --record filename.aarec
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> where .aarec is by convention
07:39 <spidey> ok
07:39 <spidey> got it
07:39 <spidey> started
07:40 <spidey> um
07:40 <Your_mom_arma> you sure?
07:40 <spidey> took forever to start
07:40 <spidey> lol
07:40 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
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07:43 <Your_mom_arma> hi
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> yay
07:48 <spidey> what's with the recording thing not crashing?
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> ok spidey, now send me the recording :)
07:48 <spidey> it didn't crash
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> ?  didn't it just crash?
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> oh, nvm then
07:48 <spidey> i restarted before the recording got bigger :p
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> ahhhh, ok
07:49 <spidey> what's this mean
07:49 <spidey> [0] User 1 does not know about netobject 2772 ( Nameless NetObject nr. 2772 ).
07:49 <spidey> [0] User 1 does not know about netobject 2771 ( Nameless NetObject nr. 2771 ).
07:49 <spidey> [0] User 1 does not know about netobject 2770 ( Nameless NetObject nr. 2770 ).
07:49 <spidey> [0] User 1 does not know about netobject 2769 ( Nameless NetObject nr.[0] User 1 does not know about netobject 2764 ( Team Vanhayes ).
07:49 <spidey> [0] User 1 does not know about netobject 2763 ( ePlayerNetID nr. 2763, name Vanhayes ).
07:49 <spidey> [0] User 1 does not know about netobject 2723 ( Nameless NetObject nr. 2723 ).
07:49 <spidey> [0] User 1 does not know about netobject 2722 ( Nameless NetObject nr. 2722 ).
07:49 <Vanhayes> huh?
07:49  * Lucifer_arma doesn't know
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> it means Vanhayes is a cheater!
07:49 <spidey> hahaha
07:49 <Vanhayes> damn u caught me
07:49 <Your_mom_arma> he's a witch
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=72271#72271  <--- reads like spam, but looks genuine
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> how do you know he's a witch?
07:51 <Your_mom_arma> i just assumed, lets tie rocks to his feet dump him in the ocean if he floats then he's a witch
07:52 <Your_mom_arma> or something to a limilar extent
07:52 <Your_mom_arma> similar even
07:52 <Vanhayes> like burning me at the stake? If I survive I am a witch
07:52 <Your_mom_arma> yep
07:57 <Your_mom_arma> cya guys
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08:04 <spidey> i think i'ma run a sumo server and tron server
08:04 <spidey> i can buy a cheap $5 shell with 2-3 background processes and run it
08:10 <spidey> lucifer
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> what?
08:11 <spidey> -rw-r--r--    1 32009    acid      3802194 Jul 10 06:48 buf.aarec
08:11 <spidey> -rw-------    1 32009    acid      2285568 Jul 10 06:31 core.27246
08:11 <spidey> -rw-------    1 32009    acid      2027520 Jul 10 06:38 core.28202
08:11 <spidey> what's those 2 core. files?
08:11 <spidey> they was made just before i started the recording
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> that's what happens when you core dump, a file is left
08:11 <spidey> oh
08:11 <spidey> coredump = crash?
08:12 <Lucifer_arma> you could post those to the thread I started on it if you'd like, I've never found much use for them, but that doesn't mean nobody will
08:12 <spidey> mmm
08:12 <spidey> i don't know what to say :/
08:12 <spidey> how about i tar them and move 'em to the public_html
08:12 <spidey> give you the link and you post
08:12 <spidey> :p
08:15 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.com/core.27246.gz
08:15 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.com/core.28202.gz
08:17 <spidey> erm
08:17 <spidey> wtf
08:17 <spidey> Forbidden
08:17 <spidey> You don't have permission to access /core.28202.gz on this server.
08:17 <spidey> Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. 
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08:19 <spidey> om
08:19 <spidey> omg
08:19 <spidey> it's hell
08:19 <HellBlade> yes?
08:19 <spidey> :p
08:19 <HellBlade> really?
08:19 <spidey> no
08:19 <HellBlade> mthat's amazing
08:19 <spidey> i'm seeing things
08:19 <HellBlade> why?
08:19 <HellBlade> yeah you are seeing things actually
08:20 <HellBlade> you are seeing your screen
08:21 <HellBlade> om
08:21 <HellBlade> omg
08:21 <HellBlade> it's spidey
08:21 <HellBlade> :p
08:21 <spidey> :/
08:21 <HellBlade> so why is it surprising that I am here
08:22 <HellBlade> wow no ops here
08:22 <HellBlade> surprising
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08:24 <Lucifer_arma> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carhenge
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08:24 <AngryOverlord> whoops
08:24 <spidey> LOL
08:24 <AngryOverlord> does anyone know what happened to zoite?
08:24 <spidey> to what?
08:24 <AngryOverlord> it isn't working
08:24 <AngryOverlord> zoite the server
08:24 <AngryOverlord> on irc
08:24 <spidey> .....
08:24 <AngryOverlord> nvm
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carhenge  <-- for the guy who just left and came back
08:26 <AngryOverlord> ?
08:26 <AngryOverlord> that is interesting
08:26 <AngryOverlord> but it doesn't say where it is
08:27 <spidey> nebraska....
08:27 <AngryOverlord> haha
08:27 <AngryOverlord> I can't read
08:27 <AngryOverlord> sorry
08:27 <Lucifer_arma> apparently there's a stonehenge replica in Texas.  I'll see if I can find directions to it, that'll make a nice day trip for the kids :)
08:28 <AngryOverlord> was anyone in the server zoite before?
08:28 <AngryOverlord> or do you guys just have freenode
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a9/Stonehenge_II.jpg
08:28 -!- AngryOverlord is now known as HellBlade
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> freenode is a network, when you connect you usually connect to a rotation server
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> we could all be connected to different servers, and the way irc works we're able to be in the same room
08:29 <HellBlade> fine does anyone know what happened to zoite the network
08:29 <HellBlade> ;P
08:30 <HellBlade> if anyone used it
08:30 <HellBlade> way back when
08:30 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, never heard of it :)
08:31 <Lucifer_arma> I thought you were talking about zoite as a freenode server, and linked it to your weird disconnect a minute ago :)
08:31 <HellBlade> *tear*
08:32 <Lucifer_arma> #last --from nemostultae 
08:32 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: [23:27:08] <nemostultae> done
08:32 <HellBlade> 5 minutes ago?
08:32 <Lucifer_arma> #time
08:32 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 01:33 AM, July 10, 2006
08:33 <HellBlade> hmmm
08:33 <HellBlade> funny it is only 11:33:29 here
08:33 <HellBlade> pm
08:33 <HellBlade> is that gmt?
08:33 <Lucifer_arma> no, it's CDT
08:33 <HellBlade> oh
08:33 <Lucifer_arma> armabot lives in texs
08:33 <Lucifer_arma> er, texas
08:34 <spidey> lolololol
08:34 <HellBlade> he
08:34 <Lucifer_arma> spidey, you're not allowed to laugh at other people's typos
08:34 <spidey> hahahahaha
08:34 <spidey> so true
08:35  * spidey goes to look for a cheap shell on a nice connection to run a tron server
08:35 <Lucifer_arma> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foamhenge
08:37 <HellBlade> lucifer why are you giving us links to wikipedia about fake stonehenges?
08:38 <Lucifer_arma> because I think they're interesting and would like to share?
08:38 <HellBlade> oh okay
08:38 <HellBlade> how did you get started looking for them?
08:42 <HellBlade> alright
08:43 <HellBlade> brb
08:45 <HellBlade> back
08:45 <Lucifer_arma> I was reading about the Celts
08:45 <spidey> mmmm
08:46 <spidey> should i get 2 background processes or just one
08:46 <Lucifer_arma> I don't have an answer for that
08:46 <spidey> i could get 3
08:46 <spidey> only $5
08:47 <spidey> gonna run a tron server on it
08:47 <spidey> O_o
08:47 <HellBlade> wow
08:47 <HellBlade> only 5$
08:47 <HellBlade> where?
08:47 <spidey> http://www.quadspeedi.net/?page=services&service=1
08:48 <HellBlade> no it's 5$ for 3
08:48 <spidey> yes
08:49 <HellBlade> oh
08:49 <HellBlade> you said 3
08:49 <spidey> spidey i could get 3
08:49 <spidey> spidey only $5
08:49 <spidey> keep up msn :p
08:49 <spidey> i said msn didn't i
08:49 <HellBlade> yeah
08:49 <spidey> s/msn/man
08:49 <spidey>     * run webcams, shoutcast servers, any type of game server, or any other process that utilizes an unreasonable amount of bandwidth or system resources, without expressed permission.
08:50 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, does tron use a unreasonable amount of bandwith?
08:50 <Lucifer_arma> heh, sure
08:50 <Lucifer_arma> but it's also a game server...
08:50 <spidey> any type of game server, or any other process that utilizes an unreasonable amount of bandwidth
08:50 <spidey> if it doesn't use alot of bandwith i can run it
08:51 <Lucifer_arma> but they cite game servers in particular
08:51 <spidey> meh
08:51 <Lucifer_arma> of course, my isp says "no webservers" and all the other stuff, too, and I blissfully ignore them and do it anyway
08:51 <spidey> heh
08:51 <spidey> mine says no servers
08:51  * spidey runs all kinds of servers
08:51 <Lucifer_arma> it probably will use an unreasonable amount of bandwidth
08:52 <Lucifer_arma> z-man says his fortress server uses somewhere's around a gig month, doesn't he?
08:52 <spidey> even if i set it to like 6-10 people?
08:52 <spidey> omg
08:52 <HellBlade> Our servers are connected to redundant Cisco 7500 Series Routers, Cisco 6500 Series Switches
08:52 <spidey> O_o
08:52 <HellBlade> it will be fine
08:52 <spidey> ?
08:52 <spidey> hey it's only $3
08:53 <spidey> i can attempt it,lol
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08:55 <HellBlade> it will be fine the cisco 6500 series switches: The Catalyst 6500 Series currently supports up to 288 Class 3 (15.4W) Power over Ethernet (PoE) devices, plus up to 1152 10/100-Mbps, 576 10/100/1000-Mbps, or 32 10-Gbps Ethernet ports in a single chassis, and system scalability up to 720 Gbps, providing 40 Gbps/slot (half-duplex). Additional choices include 3, 4, 6, 9, and 13-slot chassis options and several WAN interface module 
08:55 <HellBlade> options.
08:55 <HellBlade> you could probably do it with just one
08:56 <spidey> yea
08:56 <spidey> gotta wait till the 12th though
08:56 <HellBlade> oh
08:56 <HellBlade> why?
08:56 <spidey> i transfered money from the bank the 8th and paypal is slow as hell
08:56 <HellBlade> oh
08:57 <spidey> http://www.vitalspeeds.com/
08:58 <HellBlade> those are small
08:58 <spidey> who cares about space
08:58 <spidey> it's a tron server
08:58 <spidey> :p
08:58 <HellBlade> well if zmans takes 1gb per month
08:59 <spidey> no man
08:59 <spidey> hdd space isn't bandwith
08:59 <spidey> read
08:59 <spidey> "monthly bandwith unmetered"
08:59 <HellBlade> I'm sorry I am blind
08:59 <spidey> lmao
08:59 <HellBlade> haha you get BitchX
09:00 <spidey> i think i'll get one of those...
09:00 <spidey> maybe
09:00 <spidey> i can't find there ToS
09:01 <HellBlade> you can always do the shared hosting and host a couple servers
09:02 <HellBlade> although they have metered bandwith
09:02 <HellBlade> badnwidth
09:05 <spidey> heh
09:05 <HellBlade> wow you guys are just on irc for arma
09:05 <spidey> no
09:05 <spidey> i'm on 5 networks
09:05 <HellBlade> oh
09:05 <HellBlade> pfft
09:05 <HellBlade> what evs
09:06 <spidey> i am
09:06 <HellBlade> I knkow
09:06 <HellBlade> so you going for the vitalspeeds one?
09:06 <spidey> maybe both
09:06 <HellBlade> two servers?
09:06 <spidey> 3
09:06 <HellBlade> 3?
09:06 <spidey> i run one on my webserver :)
09:06 <HellBlade> wow
09:06 <HellBlade> you in usa?
09:06 <spidey> yea
09:07 <HellBlade> make a fort
09:07 <HellBlade> ;P
09:07 <spidey> got one 
09:07 <HellBlade> yeah I know
09:07 <spidey> U.S.Fortress
09:07 <HellBlade> but you keep going from fort to sumo
09:07 <HellBlade> what would you make the other ones?
09:07 <spidey> there'll be the fort from my webserver
09:08 <spidey> ohhhh
09:08 <HellBlade> yeah
09:08 <spidey> you're stewie
09:08 <spidey> asshole
09:08 <spidey> lol
09:08 <HellBlade> shhhhhh
09:08 <HellBlade> don't tell anyone
09:08 <spidey> the sumo on one of the shells
09:08 <HellBlade> especially any xzl
09:08 <spidey> and a dogfight on the other
09:08 <HellBlade> then a rubber?
09:08 <spidey> no
09:08 <HellBlade> oh
09:08 <HellBlade> wait
09:08 <spidey> i don't like rubber
09:08 <HellBlade> haha that is 3
09:09 <spidey> [0] Setting SPAM_MAXLEN (Group: Cheating) deviates from its default value; clients older than 0.2.6.0 will not be allowed in.
09:09 <spidey> um?
09:09 <HellBlade> I am trying to keep my secret identity secret
09:09 <HellBlade> I "quit" on hellblade
09:10 <spidey> like i was
09:10 <spidey> i quit spidey then accidently threw the server up with spidey
09:10 <HellBlade> haha
09:10 <spidey> and the name BlAzE i used
09:10 <spidey> lol
09:10 <HellBlade> so many people "quit" on their other names
09:10 <HellBlade> and play on secret identities
09:10 <spidey> can you blame 'em?
09:11 <HellBlade> I quit hellblade cause I was being a jerk on it
09:11 <HellBlade> corrupt with power
09:11 <HellBlade> cause I was on xzl the whole time
09:11 <spidey> i don't know if people know i'm blaze yet besides the ones in here
09:11 <HellBlade> don't tell anyone
09:11 <spidey> but sp hates spidey so much and they say he sucks so much ~esp psyko~
09:11 <HellBlade> we all should have secret identities
09:12 <spidey> yet i got invited to sp numerous times as blaze
09:12 <HellBlade> haha
09:12 <HellBlade> really?
09:12 <spidey> ya
09:12 <HellBlade> esp psyko?
09:12 <spidey> especially?
09:12 <HellBlade> yeah did he invite you
09:12 <spidey> don't remember
09:12 <spidey> i know omega has
09:12 <HellBlade> haha
09:12 <spidey> and someone else
09:12 <spidey> i can't remember
09:13 <HellBlade> sin said he wanted me to join E when I was stewie
09:13 <HellBlade> the first day
09:13 <spidey> lol
09:13 <spidey> nightmare wants me to join E he just hasn't came out and said it
09:13 <HellBlade> haha
09:13 <HellBlade> spidey you and I are just to pwn for them
09:13 <spidey> i can tell from the ass kissing :p
09:14 <spidey> mbc invited me when i only played for 2 days
09:14 <HellBlade> haha
09:14 <HellBlade> nice
09:14 <spidey> that tells me that don't care about skill
09:14 <spidey> i like that
09:14 <spidey> :)
09:14 <HellBlade> are you stil in mbc?
09:14 <spidey> yea
09:14 <HellBlade> coo
09:14 <spidey> a year in august
09:15 <HellBlade> do you dislike xzl at all?
09:15 <spidey> noooo
09:15 <spidey> i like zxl
09:15 <spidey> xzl
09:15 <spidey> i just don't like sp :p
09:15 <HellBlade> eh
09:15 <spidey> punch is a good friend of mine :p
09:15 <spidey> alias
09:15 <spidey> sd
09:15 <HellBlade> I am starting to see that xzl are being somewhat of jerks to sp
09:15 <spidey> can you blame 'em?
09:15 <spidey> lol
09:16 <HellBlade> all clans contradict themselves and are jerks
09:16 <HellBlade> but I think sp and xzl are the worst
09:16 <spidey> they claim to be the elites of tron,but mbc wanted a match against them and they declined
09:16 <HellBlade> sp or xzl?
09:16 <spidey> sp
09:17 <HellBlade> haha have you seen the headline on their forums? the father of the clan community
09:17 <HellBlade> lawl
09:17 <HellBlade> I mean tron community
09:17 <spidey> riiiight
09:17 <HellBlade> tron clan**
09:17 <HellBlade> haha
09:17 <spidey> they wasn't before they fell and they still aren't :)
09:17 <spidey> i suck and i could beat them all besides punch and solidus
09:17 <HellBlade> xzl or sp?
09:17 <spidey> i had trouble with them :/
09:18 <spidey> sp
09:18 <HellBlade> oh
09:18 <HellBlade> before the downfall?
09:18 <spidey> yea
09:18 <HellBlade> oh okay
09:18 <HellBlade> now I can pwn them all with ease ;P
09:19 <spidey> meh
09:19 <HellBlade> dude it was so wierd with storm after he came back from his long break he was worshiping me because I was so good
09:19 <Lucifer_arma> anybody ever heard of wolvix?
09:19 <spidey> no?
09:19 <HellBlade> wolvix?
09:19 <HellBlade> no
09:19 <HellBlade> what is it luci?
09:19 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, linux distribution.  :)  Stumbled across it in a vain search for pyalarm, trying to see how many people use pyAlarm
09:20 <spidey> wow
09:20 <Lucifer_arma> in the beginning of June, the Wolvix guy said he was making a new version, and someone posted on his site to suggest including pyAlarm on it
09:20 <spidey> ever heard of tdl ?
09:20 <spidey> tbl*
09:20 <HellBlade> oh
09:20 <Lucifer_arma> tbl = tron player?
09:20 <spidey> tbl = linux distro
09:20 <spidey> http://www.linuxiso.org/
09:20 <Lucifer_arma> no, I haven't
09:20 <spidey> probably a few you haven't heard of there
09:21 <Lucifer_arma> That's TSL
09:21 <Lucifer_arma> and I haven't heard of TSL either
09:21 <spidey> oh
09:21 <spidey> i was thinking of
09:21 <spidey> jbl
09:22 <Lucifer_arma> looks like it's been a year since their last release, though
09:22 <spidey> lol@ peanut linux
09:22 <Lucifer_arma> which is probably how long since I released pyAlarm's last version, heh
09:22  * Lucifer_arma needs to get Dave's Stupid Alarm Clock going
09:22 <spidey> you made pyalarm?
09:22 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
09:22 <spidey> O_o
09:23 <spidey> i've heard about it somewhere
09:23 <spidey> long time ago
09:23 <HellBlade> woah
09:23 <Lucifer_arma> from me?  heh
09:23 <HellBlade> you made pyalarm!
09:23 <spidey> no
09:23 <spidey> i've heard abotu it from someone/thing else
09:23 <spidey> what is it?
09:23 <Lucifer_arma> alarm clock
09:23 <spidey> lol
09:23 <spidey> i guess that'd explain it
09:24 <HellBlade> holy crud YOU MADE PYALARM!
09:24 <HellBlade> oh it is an alarm clock
09:24 <spidey> i think it was something i was playing with when i first installed linux
09:24 <HellBlade> I'm not impressed
09:24 <HellBlade> hehehe jk
09:24 <spidey> hahahahahahah
09:24 <Lucifer_arma> ?  afaik, no distributions include it
09:24 <HellBlade> yeah just get it from sourceforge spidey
09:25 <Lucifer_arma> probably because it's buggier than an antpile
09:25 <HellBlade> that's pretty buggy
09:25 <Lucifer_arma> it's damn buggy.  I don't even know if the last release works for anyone besides me.  ;)
09:25 <spidey> i don't say it was included
09:25 <spidey> i said i played with it :p
09:25 <Lucifer_arma> ahhhhhhhhhhhh
09:26 <Lucifer_arma> next version will be better, but I'm changing the name and pretty much rewriting it
09:26 <Lucifer_arma> lessons learned and all
09:26 <spidey> lol
09:26 <HellBlade> haha
09:26 <HellBlade> does anyone know how to take down a firewall on a mac?
09:26 <Lucifer_arma> and it won't see a windows release for some time now
09:26 <Lucifer_arma> spidey knows
09:26 <Lucifer_arma> just install vnc and he'll show you
09:26 <spidey> :|
09:26 <HellBlade> oh spidey!
09:26 <HellBlade> teach me my master
09:27  * spidey says kiss his ass to both
09:27 <HellBlade> *tear*
09:27  * Lucifer_arma french kisses spidey's grandmother
09:27 <spidey> O_o
09:27 <spidey> that was so wrong
09:27 <Lucifer_arma> is she hot?  your grandmother, that is.  Is she?
09:27 <spidey> my grandma isn't a donkey :(
09:28 <HellBlade> free edition enough?
09:29 <spidey> why/what for/why do you wanna know how to take a mac firewall down?
09:29 <HellBlade> for reasons of my own
09:29 <HellBlade> ...
09:29 <spidey> your box?
09:29 <HellBlade> yeah pretty much
09:29 <spidey> .......
09:29 <spidey> i'll take that as a no
09:29 <HellBlade> no
09:30 <HellBlade> it is yeah pretty much
09:30 <spidey> that's not a answer :p
09:30 <HellBlade> sure it is
09:30 <spidey> is not
09:30 <HellBlade> why are you so interested?
09:31 <spidey> because if it was yours i might help :p
09:31 <HellBlade> it is mine
09:31 <spidey> to late now
09:31 <Lucifer_arma> are you speaking in the present or future tense?
09:31 <HellBlade> present
09:31 <Lucifer_arma> as in "it'll be mine after I take down the firewall"?
09:31 <HellBlade> no it is mine now
09:31 <Lucifer_arma> aren't there mac support groups?  most drug addictions have them....
09:31 <spidey> LOL
09:33 <HellBlade> aight
09:33 <HellBlade> got it
09:33 <HellBlade> oh pretty IP adress
09:33 <spidey> ....
09:33 <HellBlade> nothing
09:33 <spidey> so i take it you was lying
09:33 <HellBlade> no
09:33 <spidey> yes
09:33 <HellBlade> no!
09:33 <spidey> yes!
09:33 <HellBlade> no
09:33 <spidey> yes
09:33 <HellBlade> why do you think I am lying
09:34 <spidey> HellBlade oh pretty IP adress
09:34 <HellBlade> so
09:34 <HellBlade> it is mine so what
09:34 <HellBlade> god
09:34 <spidey> because "yeah pretty much"
09:34 <HellBlade> so
09:34 <HellBlade> well it isn't much of a box
09:34 <HellBlade> more of a closable one
09:34 <spidey> and because after i said if it was yours i'd help you said yes it is :p
09:34 <HellBlade> it is mine!
09:35 <HellBlade> now!
09:35 <spidey> but it wasn't
09:35 <HellBlade> it always has been
09:35 <spidey> lmao
09:35 <spidey> i would keep going but i'm laughing to much
09:35 <HellBlade> I am getting sorta mad because you wont beleive me
09:36 <spidey> hahahahaha
09:37 <HellBlade> how can I proove to you that it is mine?
09:37 <Lucifer_arma> I don't believe you either, does that make you madder?
09:37 <HellBlade> why not?
09:37 <Lucifer_arma> well, you can give it to me, at which case you'd prove it was yours
09:37 <spidey> lololololol
09:37 <HellBlade> another way?
09:37 <Lucifer_arma> only then it'd be mine, and I'd put linux on it
09:37 <Lucifer_arma> probably run an arma server on it
09:37 <HellBlade> don't worry you wont be able to unless you get the firewall down
09:38 <HellBlade> and it isn't a box
09:38 <spidey> .......
09:38 <HellBlade> hehe
09:38 <spidey> what's the firewall got to do with it
09:38 <spidey> if he has physical access all he's gotta do is reboot with the cd in
09:38 <Lucifer_arma> yeah....
09:38 <HellBlade> yeah....
09:38 <Lucifer_arma> yeah....
09:38 <spidey> maybe......
09:38 <HellBlade> I thought that didn't work with macs
09:38 <Lucifer_arma> then how would you put linux on it?
09:39 <HellBlade> since isn't the os secured by a firewall?
09:39 <spidey> ....
09:39  * Lucifer_arma whacks HellBlade with a clue bat
09:39 <spidey> LOL
09:39 <HellBlade> I'm sorry it is late and I have no idea what is going on
09:39 <Lucifer_arma> the firewall in the os doesn't turn on until sometime after it has started booting
09:39 <spidey> the os doesn't boot if you boot from a cd man
09:39 <HellBlade> what were we talking about?
09:39 <Lucifer_arma> if you boot from a cd, then the os doesn't boot, and you install linux generally by booting from a cd
09:40 <HellBlade> aha you are wrong!
09:40 <Lucifer_arma> we were talking about a mac you wanted spidey to help you own
09:40 <HellBlade> the cd doesn't boot till the os boots!
09:40 <spidey> no
09:40 <spidey> you're wrong
09:40 <HellBlade> I ALREADY OWN THE FUCKING MAC!
09:40 <spidey> the bios reads the cd 
09:40 <spidey> the bios starts before the os
09:40 <spidey> deeeer
09:40 <Lucifer_arma> well, on intel boxes the bios does the part where it starts the cd booting
09:40 <HellBlade> I don't have an intel
09:40 <spidey> intelmac
09:40 <spidey> mmm
09:41 <spidey> i've heard of those
09:41 <HellBlade> macbook g4
09:41 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, they're new
09:41 <HellBlade> powerbook g4 I mean
09:41 <Lucifer_arma> they kinda take the snob out of the mac snob
09:41 <HellBlade> macbook is the intel
09:41 <spidey> lol
09:41 <HellBlade> god you got me thinking about the intel
09:41 <spidey> since when
09:41 <HellBlade> sorry
09:41 <HellBlade> since you started talking about it gosh
09:41 <spidey> well
09:42 <spidey> talking about what?
09:42 <spidey> man i think you're crazy or something
09:42 <HellBlade> GOD DAMN IT SPIDEY YOU ARE CONFUSING ME!
09:42 <spidey> HAHAAHAHAHA
09:42 <Lucifer_arma> HellBlade: did you take your medication today?
09:42 <HellBlade> and i know you are doing it on purpouse
09:42 <HellBlade> no -.-
09:42 <HellBlade> it is 12:42 in the fawking morning
09:43 <HellBlade> why would I take my medication now
09:43 <HellBlade> ?!?!?
09:43 <Lucifer_arma> so you won't forget to take it in the morning?
09:43 <HellBlade> no
09:43 <HellBlade> wait I don't take medication
09:43 <spidey> lmao
09:43 <HellBlade> god damn you guys are confusing me
09:43 <spidey> this should go on bash.org
09:43 <spidey> hahah
09:44 <Lucifer_arma> I feel so bad
09:44 <spidey> lmao
09:44 <Lucifer_arma> I helped someone make an annoying server name
09:44 <HellBlade> what?
09:44 <spidey> what name/
09:44 <spidey> ?
09:44 <Lucifer_arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=72381#72381  <--- you have to be logged in to see the screenshot
09:45 <spidey> no i don't
09:45 <spidey> i can see it
09:45 <Lucifer_arma> really?  I thought tank had disabled attachments for people nto logged in?
09:45 <spidey> nope
09:45 <spidey> i see it
09:45 <spidey> and i'm not logged in
09:45 <HellBlade> harakiri-zone JP is annoying
09:45 <spidey> harakiri-zoe jp
09:45 <HellBlade> why?
09:46 <Lucifer_arma> because now it's colored
09:46 <spidey> lol
09:46 <HellBlade> so
09:46 <HellBlade> I want to check it out brb
09:47 <HellBlade> ha I can't see it
09:47 <HellBlade> ;P
09:50 <spidey> HellBlade and it isn't a box
09:50 <spidey> ok, the monitor
09:50 <HellBlade> cough powerbook cough
09:50 <HellBlade> hehe
09:51 <HellBlade> fine what ever
09:51 <HellBlade> spidey you are just confusing me
09:51 <spidey> huh?
09:51 <HellBlade> I dunno
09:51 <spidey> seriously man
09:51 <spidey> goto a mental home for a few days
09:51 <HellBlade> I NEED MY MEDICATIONS!
09:51 <spidey> i think you're losing it
09:52 <HellBlade> GIVE ME MY GOD DAMN MEDICATIONS SPIDEY!
09:52  * HellBlade pulls out a dagger and holds in like they do in dune
09:53 <HellBlade> or children of dune I should say
09:53 <HellBlade> they don't have daggers in dune
09:53 <spidey> children of the corn?
09:53 <HellBlade> DUNE!
09:53 <spidey> corn....
09:53 <HellBlade> DUNE!
09:53 <spidey> corn....
09:53 <HellBlade> DUNE GOD DAMN IT DUNE!
09:53 <spidey> corn....
09:54 <HellBlade> NO FUCKIING CORN INVOLVED IT IS JUST DUNE!
09:54 <spidey> corn....
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09:54 <guru3> shut up
09:54 <guru3> before i make you
09:54 <HellBlade> god damn it spidey I hate you
09:54 <spidey> love you too ;x
09:54 <HellBlade> I'm sure you do
09:54 <spidey> :p
09:54 <Vanhayes> #g $22/h 40h/w
09:54 <armabot> Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
09:54 <Vanhayes> damn
09:55 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o guru3] by ChanServ
09:55 -!- mode/#armagetron [+m] by guru3
09:55 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v Lucifer_arma] by guru3
09:55 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v Lucifer_arma] by guru3
09:55 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v luke-jr_] by guru3
09:55 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v nemostultae] by guru3
09:55 -!- mode/#armagetron [+vvv wejp wrtlprnft zmanuel] by guru3
09:55 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v deja_vu_] by guru3
09:55 <@guru3> yeah... i think that's all for now
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09:59 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v Stewie-arma] by guru3
09:59 <+Stewie-arma> hello?
10:00 <+Stewie-arma> ty
10:00 <+Stewie-arma> so you guys obviously play armagetron right?
10:05 <@guru3> yes
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10:25 -!- mode/#armagetron [-m] by guru3
10:26 <+wrtlprnft> #morning
10:26 <armabot> Good Morning wrtlprnft Random Fortune:  Alan Cox wrote: || >> On any procmail new enough not to be full of security holes you set || >Brain on, Imeant majordomo of course 8) || You got me worried there for a brief (very brief) moment :-). || -- Stephen R. van den Berg (AKA BuGless)
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10:35 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5621 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/ (network/nNetObject.h tron/gCycle.cpp tron/gCycleMovement.cpp):
10:35 <armabot> armagetronad: Rearranged call order of nNetObject::ReadSync() and
10:35 <armabot> armagetronad: nNetObject::InitAfterCreation(), init now comes first. Some things that were
10:35 <armabot> armagetronad: formerly done in init now need to be done in ReadSync() if this->ID() is zero
10:35 <armabot> armagetronad: (inicating that this is the first sync).
10:36 -spidey:#armagetron- mmm
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10:40 <@guru3> stop with the damn notices please
10:40 <+wrtlprnft> spidey found a new way to annoy people...
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10:45 <Lucifer_arma> mmmm
10:45  * Lucifer_arma tries to remember what his alarm clock looks like
10:45 <Lucifer_arma> I'm always sleepy when I look at it, so I don't remember :)
10:45 <@guru3> doesn't it start with py?
10:46 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm rewriting it with pyqt, which means new ui
10:46 <@guru3> qt :o
10:46 <+wrtlprnft> qt :D
10:46 <Lucifer_arma> really, I just want two things out of it :)
10:46 <Lucifer_arma> move the damn media player to command line apps, and a systray icon
10:47 <@guru3> ye qt junkies of kde land
10:47 <Lucifer_arma> but for the systray icon, since I use KDE, I need to use pyKDE to get it, and that means pyqt to start
10:47 <+wrtlprnft> crew gnome/gtk :D
10:48 <+wrtlprnft> *screw
10:48 <@guru3> aww lol
10:48 <Lucifer_arma> well, it'll be carefully separated so that putting a pygtk front on it should be fairly trivial
10:48 <Lucifer_arma> just write up the ui file with glade and write the glue code
10:48 <Lucifer_arma> that might even get it a windows version.  Does pygtk run in Windows?
10:49 <@guru3> i know gtk itself does, cause gaim uses it
10:49 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, looks like it does
10:49 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, anything python will run in windows
10:49 <spidey> just need the interpeter
10:50 <Lucifer_arma> sure spidey, whatever you say
10:50 <spidey> it will if you install python 2.4 for windows
10:50  * Lucifer_arma notes that pygtk depends on gtk, which is a c library
10:50 <spidey> :)
10:50  * guru3 refers Lucifer_arma to his previous statement about gaim
10:50  * Lucifer_arma notes further that python bindings have to be built for each platform, and that pyao does *not* run in windows
10:51 <+wrtlprnft> well, if you use pyKDE it won
10:51 <+wrtlprnft> 't run on windows
10:51 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.mapr.ucl.ac.be/~gustin/win32_ports/
10:51  * guru3 notes that he can no longer follow Lucifer's notes
10:51 <Lucifer_arma> pyao = python bindings around libao, which is an audio output library that's supposed to be cross-platform but only runs in Linux
10:52 <@guru3> ah
10:52  * guru3 now notes that lucifer's previous notes were indeed note worthy
10:52 <Lucifer_arma> it's a xiph project that never really took off, there are lots of cross-platform output libraries.  Unfortunately python only supports pyao.  :/
10:53 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, it just occurred to me that there are openal bindings
10:53 -!- guru3 changed the topic of #armagetron to: 0.2.8.2 has been released! | http://armagetronad.net/ | Watch out for ~walls from the future~ !!! | ANY PROBLEMS WITH BETA.ARMAGETRONAD.NET? BLAME LUKE ASAP! | we like cheese. vive cheese. heil cheese. all glory to cheese. that is all
10:54 <spidey> what valvetta?
10:54 <Lucifer_arma> redneck
10:54 <spidey> it owns
10:54 <spidey> #lucifer
10:54 <armabot> Teh #1 Redneck!
10:54 <+wrtlprnft> the title is getting longer again :S
10:54 <+wrtlprnft> #Lucifer_arma 
10:54 <armabot> The operation succeeded.
10:54 <spidey> ?
10:55 <Lucifer_arma> asdf
10:55 <Lucifer_arma> oh, it doesn't spam me?
10:55 <spidey> lol
10:55 <+wrtlprnft> #notes
10:55 <armabot> wrtlprnft: I currently have notes waiting for $randomnick, ar*, Lucifer_arma_, Luke-Jr, madmax|pt, Nickserv, operserv, phil, someone, SuPeRTaRD, and unknown.
10:55 <spidey> nickserv?
10:55 <Lucifer_arma> #list alias
10:55 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: #, 42, add, admin, all, answer, anvil, armabot, armabot,, b, barf, bug, canada, canada2, ch, chatlog, clash, coin, digg, dotdotdot, eightballs, eliza, f, fe, fluffy, fortune, g, gcalc, goodbye, hello, help, hose, ignoreme, insight, it's, joke, knock, less, lipsum, lock, log, log, lotto, lucifer, luciferarma, lukejr, m, man, mashuffle, message, mfaq, missed, morning, night, pang, (1 more message)
10:55 <+wrtlprnft> no, it spams someone random methinks
10:55 <+wrtlprnft> #help spam
10:55 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (spam <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "later tell [echo $randomNick] enjoy the spam".
10:55 <Lucifer_arma> wtf?  can we stop with all these useless aliases?
10:55 <+wrtlprnft> #more Lucifer_arma 
10:55 <armabot> wrtlprnft: parrot, peng, poke, pong, postal, pun, pung, pushredbutton, q, realchatlogs, remove, roulete, roulettebot, roulettte, scare, sdasupport, selfcleanalias, should, spam, spamspamspam, specialroulette, superdice, surprise, switchtoheads, switchtotails, teamlist, texas, u, unix, unlock, uptime, vanhayes, wakespam, whoisshe, wikipedia, and yoda
10:55 <spidey> #help gcalc
10:55 <armabot> spidey: (gcalc <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "google calc $*".
10:56 <spidey> ...
10:56 <spidey> what's the difference between that and g
10:56 <+wrtlprnft> #help g
10:56 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (g <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo [google calc $*]".
10:56 <Lucifer_arma> NONE, it's a USELESS alias
10:56 <Lucifer_arma> well, and #g used to make spam
10:56 <spidey> lol
10:56 <+wrtlprnft> #switchtoheads
10:56 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
10:56  * Lucifer_arma considers unloading the alias module again
10:56 <+wrtlprnft> #alias coin
10:56 <armabot> heads
10:56 <+wrtlprnft> #alias coin
10:56 <+wrtlprnft> #alias coin
10:56 <armabot> heads
10:56 <armabot> heads
10:56 <+wrtlprnft> #switchtotails
10:56 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
10:56 <+wrtlprnft> #alias coin
10:56 <armabot> tails
10:56 <+wrtlprnft> #alias coin
10:56 <+wrtlprnft> #alias coin
10:56 <armabot> tails
10:56 <armabot> tails
10:57 <@guru3> please stop spamming :/
10:57  * wrtlprnft hides
10:57 <spidey> #help switchtoheads
10:57 <armabot> spidey: (switchtoheads <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "alias add coin echo heads".
10:57 <Lucifer_arma> he's just showing off his useless aliases
10:57 <spidey> O_o
10:57 <Lucifer_arma> #unload Alias
10:57 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
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10:57 <@guru3> Lucifer_arma, is there anyway to reduce the # of aliases?
10:57  * Lucifer_arma wonders if anybody can use the bot with this plugin unloaded
10:57 <@guru3> or restrict their usage to the time when i'm not online?
10:57 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I just reduced them to 0
10:57 <+wrtlprnft> there are some useful aliases
10:57 <spidey> #google calc 10+10
10:57 <armabot> spidey: 10 + 10 = 20
10:58 <@guru3> ...
10:58 <spidey> i can for my math packets
10:58 <spidey> xD
10:58  * wrtlprnft won't type oogle calc
10:58 <Lucifer_arma> good, because that won't work :)
10:58 <spidey> LOL
10:58 <Lucifer_arma> #oogle calc
10:58 <+wrtlprnft> no
10:58 -!- spidey was kicked from #armagetron by guru3 [if you can't do that math you don't deserve to be here. you are the weakest link. goodbye.]
10:58 <+wrtlprnft> #g worked before
10:58 <Lucifer_arma> haha
10:58 <+wrtlprnft> and now i have to type oogle calc
10:58  * guru3 celebrates
10:58 <@guru3> oogle lol
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10:58 <spidey> ....
10:59 <spidey> what was that for :/
10:59 <+wrtlprnft> [if you can't do that math you don't deserve to be here. you are the weakest link. goodbye.]
10:59 <Lucifer_arma> *** spidey has been kicked from the channel by guru3. (if you can't do that math you don't deserve to be here. you are the weakest link. goodbye.)
10:59 <@guru3> lol
10:59 <spidey> :\
10:59 <Lucifer_arma> he's probably still got some lingering annoyance at you, too, spidey
10:59 <Lucifer_arma> #load Alias
10:59 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
10:59  * wrtlprnft won't spam for a while
10:59 <Lucifer_arma> can we get some of the really useless aliases removed?
10:59 <Lucifer_arma> like, all of them?
11:00  * wrtlprnft doesn't know anymore which ones are useless
11:00 <spidey> can we keep #lucifer
11:00 <spidey> i like that one
11:00 <Lucifer_arma> #alias remove lucifer
11:00 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
11:00 <@guru3> better remove that one then
11:00 <spidey> lmao
11:00 <+wrtlprnft> lol
11:00 <Lucifer_arma> any others you want, spidey?
11:00 <spidey> yea i like #u too
11:01 <Lucifer_arma> #help u
11:01 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: (u <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "uptime $*".
11:01 <Lucifer_arma> #help uptime
11:01 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: (uptime <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo spidey: [rss [echo http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/uptime.php?$randomint]]".
11:01 <Lucifer_arma> #alias remove u
11:01 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
11:01 <Lucifer_arma> #alias remove uptime
11:01 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
11:01 <+wrtlprnft> :(
11:01 <spidey> #list alias
11:01 <armabot> spidey: #, 42, add, admin, all, answer, anvil, armabot, armabot,, b, barf, bug, canada, canada2, ch, chatlog, clash, coin, digg, dotdotdot, eightballs, eliza, f, fe, fluffy, fortune, g, gcalc, goodbye, hello, help, hose, ignoreme, insight, it's, joke, knock, less, lipsum, lock, log, log, lotto, luciferarma, lukejr, m, man, mashuffle, message, mfaq, missed, morning, night, pang, parrot, peng, poke, (1 more message)
11:01  * spidey never used half those
11:01 <spidey> O_o
11:02 <Lucifer_arma> I can tell you most of the useless ones
11:02 <Lucifer_arma> they're the ones that aren't #message or #g
11:02 <Lucifer_arma> #it's
11:02 <+wrtlprnft>  #morning and #night are useful too
11:02 <armabot> who?
11:02 <Lucifer_arma> #load Herald
11:02 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: Herald is already loaded.
11:02 <spidey> #help luciferarma 
11:02 <armabot> spidey: (luciferarma <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "spam $*".
11:02 <spidey> O_o
11:02 <Lucifer_arma> #alias remove luciferarma
11:02 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
11:02 <Lucifer_arma> #alias remove spam
11:03 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
11:03 <Lucifer_arma> #alias remove spamspamspam
11:03 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
11:03 <Lucifer_arma> why am I cleaning up this mess?
11:03 <@guru3> beats me
11:03 <spidey> #help armabot
11:03 <@guru3> but i appreciate it
11:03 <armabot> spidey: (armabot <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "eightball $*".
11:03 <spidey> #help armabot,,
11:03 <armabot> spidey: Error: There is no command "armabot,,".
11:03 <Lucifer_arma> #help alias
11:03 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: There is no command "alias".
11:03 <spidey> ....
11:03 <Lucifer_arma> #list alias
11:03 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: #, 42, add, admin, all, answer, anvil, armabot, armabot,, b, barf, bug, canada, canada2, ch, chatlog, clash, coin, digg, dotdotdot, eightballs, eliza, f, fe, fluffy, fortune, g, gcalc, goodbye, hello, help, hose, ignoreme, insight, it's, joke, knock, less, lipsum, lock, log, log, lotto, lukejr, m, man, mashuffle, message, mfaq, missed, morning, night, pang, parrot, peng, poke, pong, (1 more message)
11:03 <Lucifer_arma> #alias
11:04 <Lucifer_arma> #alias list
11:04 <Lucifer_arma> #more
11:04 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: postal, pun, pung, pushredbutton, q, realchatlogs, remove, roulete, roulettebot, roulettte, scare, sdasupport, selfcleanalias, should, specialroulette, superdice, surprise, switchtoheads, switchtotails, teamlist, texas, unix, unlock, vanhayes, wakespam, whoisshe, wikipedia, and yoda
11:04 <spidey> #help q
11:04 <armabot> spidey: (q <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "quote random".
11:04 <+wrtlprnft> don't delete #wikipedia :S
11:04 <Lucifer_arma> #alias remove *
11:04 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: There is no such alias.
11:04 <spidey> selfcleanalias?
11:04 <spidey> #help selfcleanalias
11:04 <armabot> spidey: (selfcleanalias <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "alias add $1 echo $* [alias remove $1]".
11:04 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'll tell you what, I've got 3 flesh and blood kids.  If I have to clean up this alias stuff, I'm just going to unload it.
11:05 <+wrtlprnft> #alias remove sdasupport
11:05 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
11:05 <Lucifer_arma> I have enough runny noses to rub
11:05 <Lucifer_arma> or wipe, or whatever
11:05 <+wrtlprnft> #alias remove teamlist
11:05 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
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11:24 <spidey> someone do /ctcp ping spidey
11:24 <spidey> and tell me the response time
11:34 <+wrtlprnft> 11:34 [ctcp(spidey)] PING
11:34 <+wrtlprnft> 11:34 CTCP it's reply from spidey: not nice to ping people
11:34 <+wrtlprnft> ...
11:34 <spidey> heh
11:35 <spidey> hold on
11:35 <spidey> try now
11:39 <+wrtlprnft> 11:39 [ctcp(spidey)] PING
11:39 <+wrtlprnft> 11:39 CTCP PING reply from spidey: 1474337.335 seconds
11:39 <spidey> lol
11:39 <spidey> now i'm slower than dialup
11:44 <spidey> wrtlprnft, try one more time
11:48 <+wrtlprnft> 11:48 [ctcp(spidey)] PING
11:48 <+wrtlprnft> 11:48 CTCP PING reply from spidey: PRIVMSG spidey :APING-1111111 second(s)
11:48 <spidey> O_o
11:48 <spidey> damn it :(
11:49 <spidey> how about now O_o
11:50 <spidey> i want it to say a negative number so i can say i'm from the future damn it :(
11:52 <+wrtlprnft> ...
11:53 <+wrtlprnft> o_O
11:57 <+wrtlprnft> can someone tell me why NFS stops working once i get to the boundary of my WLAN access point, but everything else still works fine, including arma?
12:25 <spidey> omg
12:25 <spidey> Message from syslogd@localhost at Mon Jul 10 06:25:05 2006 ...
12:25 <spidey> localhost kernel: Bad page state at free_hot_cold_page (in process 'artsd', page
12:25 <spidey>  c12c3be0)
12:25 <spidey> Message from syslogd@localhost at Mon Jul 10 06:25:05 2006 ...
12:25 <spidey> localhost kernel: flags:0x80000414 mapping:00000000 mapcount:0 count:0
12:25 <spidey> Message from syslogd@localhost at Mon Jul 10 06:25:05 2006 ...
12:25 <spidey> localhost kernel: Backtrace:
12:26 <spidey> Message from syslogd@localhost at Mon Jul 10 06:25:05 2006 ...
12:26 <spidey> localhost kernel: Trying to fix it up, but a reboot is needed
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12:37 <spidey> wrtlprnft, how do i tell the version my x server is?
12:52 <+wrtlprnft> X -version?
12:52 <cusco> nop
12:52 <cusco> I tried that
12:52 <cusco> :P
12:52 <spidey> lol
12:53 <spidey> spidey@fbi.gov[/dev]$ X --version
12:53 <spidey> X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
12:53 <spidey> heh
12:53 <+wrtlprnft> one v!
12:53 <+wrtlprnft> err
12:53 <+wrtlprnft> one -
12:53 <+wrtlprnft> -version, not --version
12:53 <spidey> ah
12:53 <spidey>  Window System Version 6.8.2 (Debian 6.8.2.dfsg.1-11 20051129054125 David Nusinow
12:53  * spidey needs to update
12:54 <+wrtlprnft> fbi.gov?
12:54 <spidey> yar
12:54 <+wrtlprnft> people have great hostnames sometimes
12:54 <spidey> lol
12:54 <spidey> it's not my hostname
12:54 <spidey> my hostname is Zion
12:54  * wrtlprnft should shut up, this computer has the hostname "laptop"
12:55 <cusco> spidey: you're using stable?
12:55 <spidey> my host name isn't fbi.gov :p
12:55 <spidey> cusco, mepis
12:55 <cusco> ow.. I don't know nothibg about that
12:55 <spidey> spidey@fbi.gov[/dev]$ cat /etc/profile
12:55 <spidey> # /etc/profile
12:55 <spidey> PATH="/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/games"
12:55 <spidey> # enable bash completion in interactive shells
12:55 <spidey> [ "$PS1" -a -f /etc/bash_completion ] && . /etc/bash_completion
12:55 <spidey> TTY=$(tty)
12:55 <armabot> spidey: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
12:55 <spidey> TTY=${TTY##*/}
12:55 <spidey> [ -n "$TTY" ] && PS1="\[\]\u@fbi.gov[\w]$\[\] " || PS1="\[\][\W]\u\[\] "
12:55 <cusco> debian testing got xorg7 about month agou
12:56 <cusco> I remember I lost direct rending interface.. so I hadn't 3d and I could't play tron
12:56 <cusco> :P
12:56 <spidey> wrtlprnft, i edited the profile file
12:56 <spidey> :p
12:56 <+wrtlprnft> my prompt's better
12:56 <spidey> lol
12:56 <spidey> laptop?
12:56 <+wrtlprnft> the overall prompt
12:57 <+wrtlprnft> colored and with error code
12:57 <spidey> the konsole ?
12:57 <+wrtlprnft> if you once worked with a colored prompt you don't want anything else, believe me
12:57 <spidey> xterm's the same thing :p
12:57 <spidey> besides
12:57 <spidey> mine shows colors
12:58 <spidey> just not everything
12:58 <+wrtlprnft> i mean colors, ie the mathias@laptop in color
12:58  * spidey screenshots
12:58  * wrtlprnft too
13:00 <+wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/promptspidey.png
13:02 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.com/snapshot1.png
13:02 <+wrtlprnft> uh, yellow
13:02 <+wrtlprnft> on white
13:02 <spidey> don't feel like messing with it
13:02 <spidey> lol
13:03 <+wrtlprnft> just make the background black
13:03 <+wrtlprnft> settings->sheme->transparent, dark background
13:04 <spidey> heh
13:04 <spidey> that's how you change that
13:04 <spidey> bastard wouldn't go transparent when i tried from right click > window behacior
13:05 <+wrtlprnft> and then settings->save as default
13:07 <+wrtlprnft> darn f********* shit last measure! as if i didn't have enough tabs open
13:07 <spidey> lol
13:08 <+wrtlprnft> at least my browser doesn't crash and allows me to disable js fast enough and close the tabs again
13:11 <spidey> heh
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13:18 <spidey> omg
13:18 <spidey> i broke my taskbar
13:26 <spidey> mm
13:31 <spidey> hahaha
13:31 <spidey> this x server sucks bad
13:31 <spidey> it flips out way to much
13:36 <spidey> it flips out way to much
13:36 <spidey> er
13:39 <spidey> wrtlprnft, http://fallin-angels.com/snapshot1.png
13:56 <+wrtlprnft> pfft gtk apps
13:56 <+wrtlprnft> get gtk-engines-qt
14:01 <spidey> ?
14:01 <spidey> i realized a small problem
14:01 <spidey> my text is gray
14:01 <spidey> but yours is black
14:01 <spidey> lol
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14:34 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5622 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tools/tHeap.cpp: Fixed annoying "Element not in heap" error on fatal exit, it is now replaced by tons of memory leaks. Oh well.
14:35 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5623 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tron/gCycleMovement.cpp: Switched order of timesteps. Should make collision with own tail really precise now.
14:54 <cusco> what does this last ones mean?
14:54 <cusco> make colision with own tail 
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14:54 <cusco> precise?
14:54 <+wrtlprnft> so you don't die
14:55 <+wrtlprnft> or die if you sould
14:55 <+wrtlprnft> *should
14:55 <+wrtlprnft> timesteps = simulation frames
14:55 <cusco> hm..
15:01 <cusco> by the way I dind't went on having the ed's fortress cloned
15:02 <cusco> instead I was having fun in a normal frtress erver
15:02 <cusco> how do I login admin to change parameters?!
15:09 <+wrtlprnft> first you need to set ADMIN_PASS to something
15:09 <+wrtlprnft> then ingame say /login yourpassword
15:09 <+wrtlprnft> and then you can say /admin CYCLE_RUBBER 4.5
15:09 <+wrtlprnft> but they won't be saved over restart
15:10 <cusco> ADMIN_PASS on the config files?
15:10 <cusco> wich file?
15:11 <+wrtlprnft> any
15:11 <+wrtlprnft> settings_custom.cfg is my recommendation
15:11 <cusco> ok
15:24 <+wrtlprnft> BF fortress is a mess O_o
15:24 <madmax|pt> sliiiiiide
15:24 <spidey> no doubt
15:25  * wrtlprnft was stupid
15:25 <spidey> i thought i was sliding when my upload was messed up the other day
15:25  * spidey wishes he was sliding as good as then
15:25 <spidey> i know
15:25 <spidey> i said you was stupid
15:25 <spidey> erm
15:25 <spidey> in the server
15:26 <+wrtlprnft> really?
15:26 <madmax|pt> yea
15:26 <spidey> yea
15:26 <spidey> :)
15:26  * spidey owns at the name guessing game :p
15:26 <spidey> i always pick you luci and van out
15:29 <spidey> #night
15:29 <armabot> Good night spidey!
15:29 <spidey> why thank you armabot 
15:30 <+wrtlprnft> ?
15:30 <spidey> it means i'm going to sleep
15:30 <+wrtlprnft> 15:29 <spidey> why thank you armabot
15:30 <+wrtlprnft> the ? referred to that
15:30 <spidey> i was thanking her for telling me good night
15:31 <+wrtlprnft> good "night" at 8AM
15:31 <spidey> 8:30 am
15:31 <+wrtlprnft> 8:30, actually
15:32 <spidey> and i don't live on a schedule
15:32 <spidey> except tuesdays
15:32 <spidey> i have to go test then
15:32 <spidey> so i have to sleep the night before
15:33 <+wrtlprnft> "night" for me is defined as the time between sunset and sunrise
15:33 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5624 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/engine/ePlayer.cpp: Fixed "Player 1" bug triggered by network object reordering. Players always entered as Player 1, then renamed.
15:33 <spidey>  Good night spidey!
15:33 <spidey> here that means you're going to sleep
15:33 <spidey> which
15:33 <spidey> i'm going to sleep
15:33 <spidey> so
15:33 <madmax|pt> erm
15:33 <spidey> good NIGHT wrtlprnft 
15:34 <+wrtlprnft> g'night?
15:34 <spidey> grrr
15:34 -!- spidey is now known as spidey|zzz
15:34 <spidey|zzz> bue
15:34 <spidey|zzz> bye
15:34 <+wrtlprnft> bue spidey|zzz 
15:35 <madmax|pt> cya
15:35 <madmax|pt> #realchatlogs
15:35 <armabot> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armalogs.txt
15:37  * wrtlprnft just reduced the number of tab rows from 10 to 5
15:38 <+wrtlprnft> there we have another useful alias btw
15:39 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5625 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/engine/ePlayer.cpp: Another player name fix.
15:39 <+wrtlprnft> though the usefulness of it slowly gets smaller as the file gets bigger
15:40  * wrtlprnft goes and uninstalls xorg once more
15:44 <+wrtlprnft> BAM! there goes kicker
15:45 <+wrtlprnft> wow, looks like i have to live without a taskbar for the next couple of hours
16:49 <cusco> er
16:49 <cusco> maybe you're having the same problem as me
16:49 <cusco> gnome-panel
16:49 <cusco> is sucking like 90% of cpu
16:51 <cusco> if thats the case just remove the applications menu
16:59 <+wrtlprnft> no, kicker probably crashed because i just uninstalled xorg
17:07 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r5626 /tools/map-preview/trunk/lib/map_preview/ (map_model.rb parser.rb): * MapModel handles converting to floats, and calculating angle
17:19 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5627 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tron/gCycle.cpp: Whoops, the antilag code produced more lag :)
17:25 <+wrtlprnft> is that last one a revert or what?
17:25 <+wrtlprnft> or just a - sign too much/too few?
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17:29 <+wrtlprnft> http://svn.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.cgi/armagetronad/armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tron/gCycle.cpp?r1=5621&r2=5627
17:29 <+wrtlprnft> hehe
17:42 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r5628 /tools/map-preview/trunk/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
17:42 <armabot> armagetronad: * Added zone parsing and rendering
17:42 <armabot> armagetronad: * Fixed bug where viewbox would be translated twice
17:47 <+wrtlprnft> wish me luck, restarting x11 now
17:52 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r5629 /tools/map-preview/trunk/lib/map_preview/renderer.rb: Removed two unnecessary groups in spawn point rendering
17:53 <+wrtlprnft> great
17:54 <+wrtlprnft> still the same problem, just it doesn't crash, but the sctr
17:54 <+wrtlprnft> screen stays blank, even if i restart x using ssh
17:55 <+wrtlprnft> well, brb, need to reboot now if i want graphis
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18:08 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5630 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tron/gCycleMovement.cpp:
18:08 <armabot> armagetronad: Added lag sliding warning.
18:08 <armabot> armagetronad: Hopefully improved timestep calculation.
18:09 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5631 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tron/gCycle.cpp: Initialized skew properly.
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18:58 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5632 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tron/gCycle.cpp: Disabled lag compensation when rubber is active for now. It is making too many problems. The packet loss tolerance already takes care the player doesn't get killed from lag, that's better than nothing.
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19:13 <wrtlprnft> z-man is driving the people on BF fortress crazy with this :D
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19:26 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5633 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tron/gCycle.cpp: Umm, perhaps it would be nice not to use up credit for lag compensation if you're not actually going to compensate anything? (When rubber is active)
19:43 -!- Vanhayes_ is now known as Vanhayes
19:57 <Vanhayes> anyone know a good music player for windows?
20:00 <+luke-jr_> um
20:00 <+luke-jr_> mpg321?
20:05 <+nemostultae> http://www.foobar2000.org maybe? I've never used it. Doesn't play SHN :(
20:09 <madmax|pt> winamp?
20:13 <joda_bot> nemostultae: foobar is nice, just restricted to Windows because it uses DirectShow (X) filters ?
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20:15 <Vanhayes_> #last
20:15 <armabot> Vanhayes_: [13:13:21] <joda_bot> nemostultae: foobar is nice, just restricted to Windows because it uses DirectShow (X) filters ?
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20:16 <cusco> dudes
20:16 <cusco> http://www.corriere.it/Primo_Piano/Sport/2006/07_Luglio/10/pop_zidane.shtml
20:16 <joda_bot> Vanhayes: I'm using foobar and I'm happy
20:16 <joda_bot> I've got a friend who is interested in codecs and audio quality...
20:17 <joda_bot> and he suggested using foobar
20:17 <joda_bot> It has playlist tabs and can "normalize" the sound level of an entire album or single files
20:17 <Vanhayes> hmm sounds like what i ams looking for
20:18 <Vanhayes> low memory usage too
20:18 <joda_bot> the normalization is done by adding a tag to the file, and the normalization should not cut anything off ;)
20:18 <joda_bot> yes
20:18 <joda_bot> simple, powerful and fast
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20:23 <joda_bot> z-man-home: ever tried to search source forge for "tron" ?
20:23 <joda_bot> It's really amazing how many game projects are listed but have no real files or entries
20:44 <Lackadaisical> maybe it's because they found out about armagetron and thought that the competition was too strong to even bother
20:45 <z-man-home> One of them is by iceman, I think :)
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21:02 <Lucifer_arma> ack, what does it take to get a striaght answer?
21:03 <Lucifer_arma> Vanhayes: any music player for windows that can play the streams off my server is a Good Music Player, afaic :)
21:03 <Vanhayes> lol
21:03 <Vanhayes> Im liking foobar
21:04 <Vanhayes> dont know if it can play your stream though
21:06 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, no dlopen in shttpd
21:09 <joda_bot> Vanhayes: it can
21:09 <Vanhayes> nice
21:10 <Vanhayes> because that plugin that spidey|zzz gave me for winamp on xchat fucked my winamp over
21:10 <Lucifer_arma> looks like shttpd does the same network stuff we do, which is what I remember last time I looked at it
21:23 <madmax|pt> slides are baaaaack
21:23 <Vanhayes> with vengance
21:24 <Lucifer_arma> haha.  I put the water on to boil for my tea, then went to the store for cigarettes.  When I got back, I discovered I hadn't put any tea bags in the water!  :(
21:25 <Lucifer_arma> and it was almost boiling.
21:25 <+luke-jr_> =p
21:25  * Lucifer_arma didn't get much sleep last night
21:25 <+luke-jr_> that's what you get for being a druggie?
21:25 <+luke-jr_> =p
21:26 <Lucifer_arma> druggie?  that the best you can do?
21:26  * Lucifer_arma considers schooling luke-jr_ on drug slang
21:26 <+luke-jr_> ...
21:26 <madmax|pt> lol
21:26 <Vanhayes> druggies get more sleep usually
21:27 <Lucifer_arma> and better sleep, at that
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21:34 <Lucifer_arma> anybody know how I'm going to get gentoo to update itself?
21:35 <wrtlprnft> emerge --sync && emerge -uDav world
21:35 <wrtlprnft> the first one updates the package database and the second one everything you installed
21:35 <joda_bot> wrtlprnft: isn't it emerge sync ?
21:35 <Lucifer_arma> ahhh, the problem there is that I've got X.org 6.9, which conflicts with x.org 7.somethingorother, and blocks it
21:35 <Lucifer_arma> joda_bot: changed in latest portage
21:36 <joda_bot> you might add emerge -N ... it checks for changed useflags ;)
21:36 <wrtlprnft> joda_bot: emerge sync is deprecated
21:36 <joda_bot> oh alright ;)
21:36 <wrtlprnft> though it still works
21:36 <wrtlprnft> and to be honest I never write the -- myself
21:37 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, setting up x was a painus in the anus, and I'd like to not have to do it again, but I can't update because of it
21:37 <joda_bot> Lucifer_arma: config files will be merged
21:37 <joda_bot> so you won't have to go through the pain again
21:37 <joda_bot> you'll have to do the merge yourself though
21:37 <Lucifer_arma> [14:35] <Lucifer_arma> ahhh, the problem there is that I've got X.org 6.9, which conflicts with x.org 7.somethingorother, and blocks it
21:37 <joda_bot> I read that
21:38 <joda_bot> usually you have to google or look at the gentoo forums ... 
21:38 <Lucifer_arma> actually, usually wrtlprnft knows the answer and is waiting for me to ask the question :)
21:38 <joda_bot> well, that's a good alternative ;)
21:39 <wrtlprnft> yeah, you need to painfully update
21:39 <wrtlprnft> just did that today
21:39 <Lucifer_arma> I'm emerge syncing again before I try emerge -uDav world so I can have something to google with
21:39 <wrtlprnft> and since that i can't close my cover anymore
21:39 <Lucifer_arma> why not?
21:40 <joda_bot> Lucifer_arma: this block ?
21:40 <joda_bot> Calculating world dependencies... done! 
21:40 <joda_bot> [blocks B     ] <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking x11-apps/xkill-1.0.1)
21:40 <joda_bot> [blocks B     ] x11-libs/libXft (is blocking x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9.0)
21:40 <wrtlprnft> the screen will stay black
21:40 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, that's the block, joda
21:40 <Lucifer_arma> wait
21:40 <joda_bot> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-435172-postdays-0-postorder-asc-highlight-virtuals-start-25.html
21:40 <joda_bot> :-)
21:40 <wrtlprnft> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/modular-x-howto.xml
21:41  * Lucifer_arma curses phpBB opening links in new windows
21:41 <joda_bot> yes, right, just skimmed the topic
21:43 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: i have some nice userJS in opera that scans every page for target="_blank" links and removes that attribute :)
21:43 <wrtlprnft> no page should tell me where to open my links
21:43 <Lucifer_arma> konqueror lets me just say "open links that would open new windows in a new tab instead"
21:43 <Lucifer_arma> why doesn't firefox?
21:44 <Lucifer_arma> I agree in spirit, but there are some applications that really are applications that need to open dialogs and the like
21:44 <Lucifer_arma> but no website should ever try to change my focus from one window to another
21:44 <wrtlprnft> uh
21:44 <Lucifer_arma> especially since it's a maximized browser with no border forced to stay at the bottom, so new windows can only be closed by either the pull-down menu, or alt-f4
21:44 <wrtlprnft> opera never opens a new window anyways
21:45 <wrtlprnft> at least not for pages
21:45 <Lucifer_arma> any idea what the deal is with the nvidia driver on xorg 7.1?
21:46 <wrtlprnft> not me
21:46 <wrtlprnft> i read something on the nvidia driver not working if you have xorg with keyboard support
21:47 <joda_bot> Lucifer_arma: you can tell firefox to open new windows in tabs instead
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21:47 <Lucifer_arma> which version, joda_bot ?  I'm using a pretty old version
21:47 <joda_bot> Lucifer_arma: ok, you've to decide now, do you want opengl or a keyboard :-P
21:47 <joda_bot> 1.5
21:47 <Lucifer_arma> ahhh
21:48 <wrtlprnft> there's mouse keyboard emulators
21:48 <joda_bot> I really like the AdBLock extention for firefox ;)
21:48 <Lucifer_arma> but see, also, Konqueror has had this feature for as long as I can remember, since well before Firefox existed (i.e. back when it was Mozilla/nutscrape still)
21:48 <wrtlprnft> opera has an integrated content blocker
21:48 <Lucifer_arma> I pick keyboard, it's my server, after all
21:48 <wrtlprnft> though i don't use it for ads that much
21:49 <Lucifer_arma> Konqueror sucks solely because of its memory usage, imo
21:49 <Lucifer_arma> how do I search and replace in vi?  heh
21:50 <wrtlprnft> :s/find/replace/g
21:50 <wrtlprnft> and return
21:50 <joda_bot> wrtlprnft: I've got a automatically updated filterset for filtering ads ;)
21:51 <Lucifer_arma> how do I make it match on spaces?
21:51 <joda_bot> and you can add custom rules too
21:51 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: just type the spaces?
21:51 <wrtlprnft> or use \S, that's all whitespace
21:51 <Lucifer_arma> it highlights all the spaces and says "couldn't find pattern"
21:51 <wrtlprnft> ?
21:51 <Lucifer_arma> I don't want all whitespace, just the stuff at the beginning of the lines
21:51 <wrtlprnft> what do you want exactly?
21:52 <Lucifer_arma> well, I copied and pasted a package list using middle-click from a firefox window to a vi session, and it added two spaces on each line
21:52 <wrtlprnft> whitespace at the beginning of the line: :s/^\S*/whateveryouwannareplaceitby/
21:52 <Lucifer_arma> that's iteratively, so the first line has 2, the second has 4, the third has 6, etc
21:52 <wrtlprnft> oh, that is easier
21:52 <wrtlprnft> oh, that
21:52 <wrtlprnft> vi has a paste mode, but i forget how it works :S
21:53 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: just say :paste
21:53 <wrtlprnft> and paste again
21:53 <wrtlprnft> err
21:53 <wrtlprnft> :set paste, that is
21:54 <wrtlprnft> that'll not make it insert any extra whitespace
21:54 <wrtlprnft> *make it not insert
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21:59 <Lucifer_arma> anjori: mepis broke my laptop
22:00 <anjori> 3.4-3? what happened?
22:00 <Lucifer_arma> I guess I should have thought of it before, but I hope it doesn't take all night and any of the morning to build x.org
22:00 <Lucifer_arma> anjori: well, it's the rc that was out a month ago or so.  Wiped out my partition table.  It's the one built on Kubuntu Dapper
22:00 <Lucifer_arma> it was actually the dapper underneath that did the breaking, and *that* is marked "stable"
22:02 <+luke-jr_> I should stop cheating on my server
22:02 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: took about two hours here
22:02 <anjori> eek
22:02 <Lucifer_arma> I recall x wasn't the bottleneck before, it was kde :)
22:02 <wrtlprnft> though it failed all the time since i tried it before and it seems the md5sums have changed
22:02 <Lucifer_arma> so, as long as KDE doesn't have to be rebuilt before I can restart X, I'm fine
22:03 <wrtlprnft> so it asked me to delete the cached file 100 times
22:03 <wrtlprnft> though i could delete quite a few packages at once
22:03 <wrtlprnft> all starting with fonts- or containing proto
22:03 <wrtlprnft> i didn't rebuild kde
22:04 <anjori> i've been taking another look at kubuntu lately--i figure i may as well cut out the middle man if i'm just going to follow mepis to the newest version--and it's already pissing me off
22:04 <Lucifer_arma> well, I dropped back to Breezy, but I set up a total of 3 partitions capable of taking a linux distribution
22:04 <Lucifer_arma> probably going to put gentoo on one, and if that works out I'll mark it my "don't break this, keep it backed up" partition
22:05 <Lucifer_arma> I'm liking gentoo on my server a lot
22:05 <anjori> i don't know why they're putting out such buggy releases as "stable". i also tried the ubuntu side and get artifacts on menu buttons. looked it up, and it's a known bug with ati cards.
22:06 <anjori> this being on a default "stable" install.
22:06 <Lucifer_arma> competition.  Competition seems to have dried up the good linux distributions we used to have so now it's a wasteland of mediocrity :(
22:06 <Lucifer_arma> maybe they want us all to buy macs?  :/
22:07 <Lucifer_arma> Dapper wouldn't even run on this computer, but Breezy ran fine.  What's up with that?  KDE's broken.  What does the K in Kubuntu mean, then, if KDE is broke?!?
22:07  * Lucifer_arma googles for Kentoo
22:07 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_: i just used a kick command on your server
22:09 <anjori> on the kubuntu install i just did, i was going through their new control center settings and there's entire kcontrol modules missing. so there's entire sections missing that just report an annoying message. 
22:10 <anjori> i honestly don't know what all the hype has been about. the only thing different is they have tonnes of money to throw around.
22:10 <Lucifer_arma> breezy was very nice, and still is, I"m on it right now
22:11 <Lucifer_arma> but I didn't even get far enough in dapper to see, I couldn't login because some kprogramorother wouldn't start
22:11 <Lucifer_arma> ksession, or kinit, or something like that.  A dealbreaker for KDE, whatever it was.
22:11 <Lucifer_arma> if that hadn't have happened, I probably wouldn't have had it wipe out my partition table, you know?  That was the weakest link in the whole ordeal, I think.
22:12 <anjori> i think i also tried breezy back when it was the current thing. wasn't impressed with that, either.  wanted to nudge my roommate in the *nix direction, and looked like a fool when he insalled a piece of crap that count even mount his drives
22:12 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know, I think I'm looking at t2 again in a bit, since I figured out why the fonts were so damn ugly.  If the distribution's going to have rough edges, at least have them in places where I can code to fix my problems.
22:13  * Lucifer_arma declares Mandriva LE 2005 as the Last Good Linux--for now.
22:13  * wrtlprnft has a better way to wipe out the harddrive: for i in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7; do dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hda; done
22:14 <Lucifer_arma> you a dapper developer?
22:14 <wrtlprnft> nope
22:14 <wrtlprnft> but they could have done it more sticky, so noone can recover his/her data
22:14 <Lucifer_arma> that's true.  If they really wanted to fuck me, they could have done a better job of it.
22:15 <anjori> i've been wanting to see what distros like mandriva and suse are doing these days, but i cant stan rpm-based distros
22:15 <Lucifer_arma> I love it when new players invent the slingshot, they get so excited!  It's like when your kid wipes his butt for the first time, he's so proud!
22:15 <anjori> i also read something about ubuntu overwriting grub without so much as a prompt
22:16 <Lucifer_arma> YES THEY DID the fucking assholes!
22:16 <Lucifer_arma> only, in my case, it wasn't grub they overwrote, it was the fancy boot manager I had
22:16 <wrtlprnft> don
22:16 <wrtlprnft> 't confuse the users
22:16 <Lucifer_arma> that's how my t2 system I'd fallen back on became unbootable
22:17 <Lucifer_arma> well don't fuck the users, either!
22:17 <wrtlprnft> users are used to being fucked if they come from the windows area
22:17 <wrtlprnft> they're not used to be asked intelligent questions
22:17 <Lucifer_arma> so if a woman says "rape me, I'm used to it", it's ok?
22:17 <anjori> they could at least have an "advanced" option, like they do for partioning
22:18  * wrtlprnft is not saying it's ok
22:18 <anjori> *partitioning
22:18 <wrtlprnft> but it works for most distributions
22:18 <anjori> jesus, i'm tired. all kinds of typos.
22:18 <wrtlprnft> people who know what a boot manager is can reinstall their old one anyways
22:18 <Lucifer_arma> that's different from when you're wide awake in what way?  and why does my tea taste like beer?
22:18 <wrtlprnft> better than beer that tastes like tea
22:18 <Lucifer_arma> uhhh, not exactly, wrtlprnft, because I was left with a broken system
22:19 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: does your system work now?
22:19 <Lucifer_arma> because after that, mepis finished the job dapper started (when I was trying to get something, anything to boot)
22:19 <Lucifer_arma> well yeah, after a complete reformat and stuff
22:19 <wrtlprnft> there you go
22:19 <Lucifer_arma> and a bit of luck my original breezy cds survived all these long months
22:19 <Lucifer_arma> come on, windows users reformat to fix their machines
22:20  * wrtlprnft reboots his server as often as some people reformat their windows computers
22:20 <anjori> their are setups intelligent enough to detect a windows install and append it to grub. they could do that at least. or as i said, an advanced option
22:20  * Lucifer_arma reminds himself to check the package list on t2's livecd to see if he needs to add any tools to deal with the problem he's whining about
22:20 <Lucifer_arma> breezy detected the windows install
22:21 <Lucifer_arma> ummm, dapper did not detect any other linuxes on the machine though, and t2 was hanging out on another partition
22:21 <Lucifer_arma> I'd expect dapper to find windows, but ignoring linux was just silly
22:22 <Lucifer_arma> otoh, there are a lot more distributions out there.  I just don't feel like going through them all to find one I like.
22:22 <Lucifer_arma> what was that one you mentioned that had the 4 corners thing and the mozilla-based window manager?
22:22 <+luke-jr_> what was wrong w/ Gentoo?
22:23 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_: the gentoo machine is running fine right now...
22:23 <wrtlprnft> /devoice wrtlprnft
22:23 <wrtlprnft> 22:22 -!- #armagetron You need to be a channel operator to do that/devoice wrtlprnft
22:23 <anjori> SymphonyOS
22:23 <wrtlprnft> err
22:23 <Lucifer_arma> that's it, thanks :)
22:24 <wrtlprnft> #google symphonyOs
22:24 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Search took 0.69 seconds: Symphony Operating System: <http://www.symphonyos.com/>; Symphony OS :: Index: <http://www.symphonyos.com/forum/>; Index of /linux/ symphonyos: <http://ftp.uwsg.indiana.edu/linux/symphonyos/>; SymphonyOS - Act II (Alpha 4) | tuxmachines.org: <http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/2050>; Tuxmachines' Gallery :: SymphonyOS Alpha 4: (2 more messages)
22:24 <anjori> based on debian (or maybe knoppix, more specifically)
22:24 <anjori> cant remember
22:24 <Lucifer_arma> knoppix
22:24 <Lucifer_arma> they're up to a beta now
22:25 <anjori> it was a very early alpha when i last tried it
22:25 <Lucifer_arma> I guess I'll try anything, and this one looks very promising
22:26 <wrtlprnft> is there a torrent for the beta?!
22:28 <anjori> doesn't appear to be.
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22:29 <wrtlprnft> o well
22:29 <Lucifer_arma> no torrent, but the indiana mirror is screaming at 600k/s
22:29 <wrtlprnft> indiana?
22:29 <wrtlprnft> sec
22:30 <wrtlprnft> i had the first one at 200kb/s
22:30 <Lucifer_arma> I'm just rounding 20% on the download
22:30 <anjori> damn
22:30 <wrtlprnft> ah, nice
22:30 <wrtlprnft> ETA 21:00
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22:31 <anjori> maybe i should take another look at it myself
22:31 <wrtlprnft> why do i always mistake anjori for spidey?
22:32 <wrtlprnft> somehow, it's very weird
22:32 <+nemostultae> ohh, nice. Do they have a PPC release? The site is loading so slowly.
22:32 <wrtlprnft> probably since strlen("spidey") == strlen("anjory") ;)
22:33 <wrtlprnft> nemostultae: don't think so
22:33 <wrtlprnft> at least not on the normal DL page
22:33 <Vanhayes> luke-jr_, I crashed your server again...
22:33 <wrtlprnft> wee
22:34 <Vanhayes> I think armagetron should get spell check
22:34 <wrtlprnft> Vanhayes: go and program it
22:34 <wrtlprnft> shouldn't be too hard with the right lib
22:34 <+nemostultae> yea, no PPC version
22:35 <Vanhayes> heh ya ill get right on that
22:35 <wrtlprnft> another dependenciy
22:35  * wrtlprnft is worried about the relationship of dependencies <=> actual code arma has now
22:36 <wrtlprnft> we depend on sdl, opengl, boost, xml2, ftgl, freetype, ...
22:36 <wrtlprnft> i especially don't like the boost dependency
22:38 <Lucifer_arma> 60%
22:38 <wrtlprnft> 39%
22:38  * Lucifer_arma isn't terribly happy about the boost dependency either
22:38 <wrtlprnft> no fair, i started later!
22:39 <Lucifer_arma> :)
22:39 <Lucifer_arma> guru3 and I started downloads one time that he started later and he beat me
22:39  * wrtlprnft connects to Lucifer_arma's server for a bit
22:39 <Lucifer_arma> I don't remember what it was, though
22:39 <@guru3> some iso
22:40  * wrtlprnft decides he has to take an exact look at the recent changes on the wiki
22:40 <wrtlprnft> ie reload it
22:41 <wrtlprnft> sec
22:41 <wrtlprnft> that wastes my downstream more than yours :S
22:42  * wrtlprnft guesses Lucifer_arma is at 75% now?
22:42 <wrtlprnft> 80%
22:45 <wrtlprnft> 90%
22:47 <wrtlprnft> about done by now i guess
22:50 <Lucifer_arma> done
22:50  * Lucifer_arma was in the shitter
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22:51 <anjori> thanks for that tidbit of information.
22:51 <wrtlprnft> again i first read spidey instead of anjori :S
22:51 <Fonkay> Does anyone know anything about installing skins on windows XP?
22:51 <anjori> it's all a mass conspiracy
22:52 <wrtlprnft> not me
22:52  * wrtlprnft goes load the thing in qemu
22:52 <Fonkay> ?
22:52 <anjori> if you would have asked me a year ago. i've tried to purge my brain of such useless information by now.
22:53 <Fonkay> I read the readme file, and the damn thing said "apply it"
22:53 <anjori> so, apply it.
22:53 <Fonkay> funny
22:53 <wrtlprnft> let's see. weak CPU, and the disk image is on a NFS file system over WLAN
22:53 <wrtlprnft> won't be blazing fast i guess
22:54 <anjori> talking about symphony?
22:54 <wrtlprnft> yeah
22:54  * Lucifer_arma burns slow anyway, 4x
22:54 <wrtlprnft> I won't reboot my machine just yet
22:54 <wrtlprnft> so i use qemu to see what it's like
22:55 <Lucifer_arma> the most important question is: does it have ndiswrapper?
22:55 <Fonkay> ugh, I'm so lost
22:55 <wrtlprnft> pfft, get an intel card
22:55 <wrtlprnft> nice opensource driver
22:56 <Lucifer_arma> Fonkay: I don't know the answer to your question, sorry.  Unlike anjori, I never knew.  I don't put useless information in my brain to be purged later.
22:56 <anjori> lucifer: it's built on knoppix, so just get ndiswrapper from the debian repos :P
22:56 <anjori> heh. shush.
22:56 <Lucifer_arma> anjori: got a recommendation on how I should do that?
22:56 <anjori> that was my point :P
22:56 <wrtlprnft> apt-get?
22:56 <Fonkay> ok, well, I quit then
22:56 <Lucifer_arma> uhhh, no ndiswrapper, no network?
22:56 <anjori> he can't without having ndiswrapper first ;)
22:57 <wrtlprnft> temporarily use a lan cable?
22:57 <Lucifer_arma> my server's got the long cable right now
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22:58 <Lucifer_arma> it's ok, I'll just look at their screenshots until the server's done building x.org, with one hand on the mouse and the other....ummmm
22:58 <wrtlprnft> gah, symphony uses the wrong keyboard layout :S
22:58  * wrtlprnft doesn't wanna know
23:00 <wrtlprnft> second, the whole desktop is a web page?
23:01 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
23:01 <Lucifer_arma> sorta
23:01 <Lucifer_arma> it uses mozilla's fancy engine
23:02 <wrtlprnft> together with those image placeholders if they're not loaded yet
23:02 <wrtlprnft> so slow it is
23:02  * Lucifer_arma mutters about qemu and nfs
23:02 <wrtlprnft> not about wlan
23:02 <wrtlprnft> ?
23:03 <Lucifer_arma> still burning
23:03 <Lucifer_arma> getting excited looking at the screenshots
23:03 <wrtlprnft> want me to make some?
23:03 <Lucifer_arma> the careful construction of my desktop was inspired by symphonyOS, so I've had a chance to use some of the concepts they've got and build on them some
23:03 <wrtlprnft> not a lot to see except for some fancy menus tho
23:04 <Lucifer_arma> well, yeah, now I'm bored of their screenshots :)
23:04 <Lucifer_arma> it's like a car, it doesn't get interesting until you drive it
23:05 <wrtlprnft> uh, it takes ages to get something on the screen that's worth schooting anyways
23:06  * wrtlprnft has never been particularily intersted in driving a car
23:08 <wrtlprnft> o_O yet another openoffice compile waiting to happen
23:09 <Lucifer_arma> only 106 more packages left to emerge
23:09 <Lucifer_arma> 105 now
23:10 <wrtlprnft> 36 here, but openoffice takes hours
23:10 <Lucifer_arma> 'm sorry, but I don't want a degree form someone who says "Dergees bsaed on yuor kowdlegdne"
23:10  * wrtlprnft wonders if it's possible that the compile process he just started might make symphony slower than it already is
23:11 <wrtlprnft> take a radian instead?
23:11  * Lucifer_arma wonders if water's wet, if cockroaches are dirty, and if shit smells
23:11 <wrtlprnft> it's significantly more than a degree
23:11 <Lucifer_arma> it's just over 60 degrees, in fact
23:11 <Lucifer_arma> I wonder how many of those are doctorates?
23:11 <wrtlprnft> #g 1 radian in degrees
23:11 <armabot> 1 radian = 57.2957795 degrees
23:12 <wrtlprnft> it's not
23:12 <Lucifer_arma> ?
23:12 <wrtlprnft> #g 1 * 180 / pi
23:12 <armabot> (1 * 180) / pi = 57.2957795
23:12 <Lucifer_arma> #g 1 * 180/pi
23:12 <armabot> (1 * 180) / pi = 57.2957795
23:12 <wrtlprnft> pi is a bit over 3, right?
23:12 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, 3.14someotherstuff
23:12 <wrtlprnft> 180/3 is 60
23:12 <wrtlprnft> so it's more than 3, so it's less than 60
23:13  * Lucifer_arma is remembering it wrong, but can't argue with the conversion
23:13  * wrtlprnft just loves useless nitpicking
23:13 <wrtlprnft> heck, i clicked that close menu button on symphony 5 minutes ago!
23:13 <wrtlprnft> stull nothing happened
23:14  * Lucifer_arma thinks wrtlprnft will learn a new definition of nitpicking sometime after he gets married
23:15 <wrtlprnft> might be
23:15 <Lucifer_arma> ok, cd's burnt
23:16 <Lucifer_arma> got the compile job moved to a screen session
23:16 <Lucifer_arma> now we'll look at symphonyos, after a cigarrette that is
23:17 <Lucifer_arma> probably come back quickly if I don't find ndiswrapper on it
23:23 <wrtlprnft> anyways, if it's based on knoppix it should have that thing
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23:25 <anjori> i just read that it's now based on debian unstable
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23:43 <Lucifer_arma> it has ndiswrapper!
23:43 <Lucifer_arma> on the liveCD, even
23:45 <Lucifer_arma> it's still pretty rough around the edges, though
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23:47 <[Xpert]DarkStar> hello everyone
23:48 <Lucifer_arma> hi
23:49 <[Xpert]DarkStar> finally
23:49 <[Xpert]DarkStar> got my system back in a working state :D
23:49 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah?
23:49 <[Xpert]DarkStar> yeah
23:49 <Vanhayes> hello
23:49  * Lucifer_arma congratulates DarkStar
23:49 <Lucifer_arma> gaim doesn't have tab completion?
23:49 <[Xpert]DarkStar> thanks :D
23:50 <Lucifer_arma> ok, brb, rebooting.
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23:50 <wrtlprnft> gaim sucks ass anyways
23:50 <[Xpert]DarkStar> it's OK
23:50 <[Xpert]DarkStar> but for irc
23:50 <[Xpert]DarkStar> you better use irssi :D
23:50 <[Xpert]DarkStar> and if you do not have X running
23:50 <[Xpert]DarkStar> you can use irssi + bitlbee
23:51 <anjori> i used to use it, but there wasnt any point when i dropped protocols other than jabber. i use psi now
23:51 <[Xpert]DarkStar> psi?
23:51 <[Xpert]DarkStar> so you're a windows person, eh?
23:51 <wrtlprnft> pounds per square inch?
23:51 <wrtlprnft> he isn't
23:51 <[Xpert]DarkStar> isn't psi win only?
23:51 <anjori> http://psi-im.org/
23:51 <anjori> no
23:51 <wrtlprnft> gah, imperial units suck just as gaim sucks
23:52 <[Xpert]DarkStar> wrtlprnft: quarter rotations per leap year
23:52 <anjori> x-chat for irc. though i'm trying out konversation right now
23:52 <wrtlprnft> I won't say kopete rocks, but it does a fine job for the few icq/msn/jabber/aim conversations i have
23:52 <[Xpert]DarkStar> heh
23:53 <anjori> i've tried it a couple times and just can't get into it. seems to be lacking a lot
23:53 <wrtlprnft> irssi or kopete or konversation?
23:54 <anjori> kopete
23:54 <wrtlprnft> doesn't seem to lack anything important to me
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23:54 <wrtlprnft> of course, if you want a truckload of stupid features you're better off with the original software
23:55 <Lucifer_arma> I feel soooo let down
23:55 <Lucifer_arma> at least screen worked out for me :)
23:55 <wrtlprnft> stupid giant smileys, nudges, games, rich text, smileys in nicknames (!), 80 char nicks, all that shit people love
23:55 <wrtlprnft> :D
23:56 <Lucifer_arma> it's on 43 of 108 now
23:56 <Lucifer_arma> I can live with their one-click repo being so small, I'll be happy to try to add more stuff to it
23:56 <Lucifer_arma> but what I can't live with is the fact that 3 of the 4 corners go to useless space
23:57 <Lucifer_arma> what's the point, then?  One is trash, one is just a "file" desktop, but if you click to open a device/directory, it opens a browser on the application desktop
23:57 <Lucifer_arma> one is for config, and there's 2 config programs.  Login manager and desktop manager.  no network config, none of that stuff.  Which I can live with, if they didn't take an entire desktop for that
23:57  * wrtlprnft thinks Lucifer_arma must be happy with a screen that has 8 edges
23:58 <Lucifer_arma> no obvious way to configure the behavior of the desktops, my impression from looking at it before was that they weren't going to let you
23:58 <Lucifer_arma> well, consider what I've got
23:58 <Lucifer_arma> I've got 4 desktops, too.  Right?
23:58 <wrtlprnft> yeah
23:58 <Lucifer_arma> On one is my web browser and email client.  Another has Kate, maximized.
23:58 <Lucifer_arma> A third has my calendar, and the fourth is my "config/file browser/everything else" desktop
23:59 <wrtlprnft> that makes 16 corners?
23:59 <Lucifer_arma> trashcan?  I don't need a trashcan
23:59 <Lucifer_arma> this is my regular kde desktop
23:59 <wrtlprnft> ooooh, all the windows users do
23:59 <[Xpert]DarkStar> does anyone here run Xgl?
23:59 <Lucifer_arma> so yeah, there'd be 16 corners if each one had a separate set of corners
23:59  * wrtlprnft might try once he can actually close his laptop cover
23:59 <Lucifer_arma> look at it that way, Symphony only has one desktop

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