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Log from 2006-07-09:
--- Day changed Sun Jul 09 2006
00:00 <Lucifer_arma> delay's about 3-5 seconds, maybe a bit longer
00:00 <Vanhayes> a display of that trial thing?
00:00 <Vanhayes> no
00:00 -!- z-man-home [n=manuel@p50872AE7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron
00:00 <spidey> no
00:00 <wrtlprnft> Day changed to 09 Jul 2006
00:00 -!- z-man-home is now known as z-man
00:00 <spidey> ok
00:00 <wrtlprnft> something tells me i should go to bed now
00:00 <ghableska> :P
00:00 <spidey> minimize the client,it should goto the system tray
00:00 <spidey> beside the clock
00:01 <Lucifer_arma> heh, probably
00:01 <spidey> then when i say Vanhayes a yellow box will pop-up
00:01 <Vanhayes> doesnt
00:01 <spidey> O_o
00:01 <Lucifer_arma> there's guitar, and I'm hearing it on my client, so I don't know what to do
00:01 <spidey> maybe i sent the wrong one
00:01 <Vanhayes> it is version 2.6.2 which is the newest I think
00:02 <spidey> mm
00:02 <spidey> i'm scared to reboot
00:02 <spidey> lol
00:03 <spidey> that's when everything fucks up
00:03 <Vanhayes> lol
00:03 <spidey> and i just edited the xorg.conf
00:03 <ghableska> o.0
00:03 <spidey> maybe i can just kill the xserver and call it even
00:03 <spidey> brb
00:03 <Vanhayes> btw wrtlprnft I use this unzipper it is pretty good
00:03 -!- spidey [n=spidey@68-119-125-64.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has quit ["Leaving"]
00:03 <Vanhayes> http://www.7-zip.org/
00:04 <wrtlprnft> #u
00:04 <armabot> spidey: 00:04:33 up 78 days, 8 min, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
00:05  * wrtlprnft doesn't use any windoze unzipper unless he really has to
00:06 <wrtlprnft> aww i used windoze again, Lucifer_arma's gonna hate me
00:07 <Lucifer_arma> nah, not if you could figure out why ghableska can't hear my stream :)
00:07 <ghableska> :)
00:07 <Lucifer_arma> what media player are you using ghableska ?
00:07 <ghableska> iTunes
00:07  * wrtlprnft currently hears a low hum
00:07 <Lucifer_arma> well, nt playing right now
00:08 <Vanhayes> wanna paste that link again?
00:08 <wrtlprnft> #last --with 8000
00:08 <armabot> wrtlprnft: [16:40:31] <Lucifer_arma> http://streams.davefancella.com:8000/
00:08 <Vanhayes> ty
00:09 <wrtlprnft> now i hear something
00:09 <Vanhayes> works with amp pretty good
00:10  * ghableska still doesn't hear anything
00:10  * Vanhayes pokes ghableska 
00:10  * wrtlprnft wonders how it must feel to play with headphones on, hearing whatever you play lagged behind 3 seconds
00:10 <Vanhayes> lol
00:11 <wrtlprnft> like, good headphones that don't let any noise from outside thru
00:11 <Lucifer_arma> I turned off my media client, I'm hearing the guitar directly now :)
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00:18 <Lucifer_arma> ummm, how does that song go?
00:18 <spidey> note,killing x doesn't count as restarting it
00:18 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: sounds ok
00:19 <Vanhayes> hmm
00:19 <wrtlprnft> that's not you playing i guess as you're writing right now
00:19  * Vanhayes me
00:19 <Lucifer_arma> it's always me playing.....  ;)
00:19 <wrtlprnft> really
00:19 <Vanhayes> wo wrtlprnft has lots of lagg
00:19 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, just that there's a long delay
00:19 <wrtlprnft> are you playing with your toeas and chatting with your hands or is it the other ways
00:19 <wrtlprnft> -s
00:19 <wrtlprnft> ?
00:20 <wrtlprnft> *toes
00:20 <ghableska> :P
00:20 <ghableska> talent ;)
00:20 <Vanhayes> lol
00:21  * Vanhayes is away: I'm busy
00:21  * Vanhayes is back (gone 00:00:03)
00:21 <Vanhayes> hmm
00:21 <spidey> lol
00:21  * wrtlprnft hates those auto /me is away: things
00:21 <Vanhayes> how come it wont let me go away with ctrl+a anymore?
00:21 <spidey> dunno
00:21 <wrtlprnft> there is a /away command that lets you supply a reason, that's enough
00:22  * Vanhayes is away: dun dun dun
00:22  * Vanhayes is back (gone 00:00:03)
00:22 <spidey> O_o
00:22 <Vanhayes> lol
00:22 <spidey> it doesn't work for me O_o
00:22  * wrtlprnft hates changing nicks too, like SD_away, spidey|zzz etc
00:22 <Vanhayes> hmm and the little arrow before the /me thing is now a little box
00:22 <ghableska> :P
00:23 -!- spidey is now known as spidey|zzz
00:23  * Vanhayes test
00:23 <Vanhayes> hmm
00:23 <spidey|zzz> test 2
00:23 -!- spidey|zzz is now known as spidey
00:23 <spidey> i wish i could remember the password to this name
00:23 <wrtlprnft> you should have linked them :P
00:23 <spidey> i registered it years ago
00:24 <Vanhayes> wait, for spidey?
00:24 <spidey> no,this name was registered years ago
00:24 <spidey> yea
00:24 <Vanhayes> lol
00:24 <Vanhayes> play o canada instead
00:24 <wrtlprnft> talk to a staff member, guy
00:24 <wrtlprnft> #canada2
00:24 <Vanhayes> Lucifer_arma,  play o canada instead
00:24 <spidey> there's a channel #lame i used to go in
00:24 <armabot> O Canada! Our home and native land! | True patriot love in all thy sons command. | With glowing hearts we see thee rise, | The True North strong and free! | From far and wide, O Canada, | We stand on guard for thee. | God keep our land glorious and free! | O Canada, we stand on guard for thee! | O Canada, we stand on guard for thee!
00:25 <spidey> although i don't go in there anymore cause i don't like any of the people
00:25 <Lucifer_arma> heh, forgot the rest
00:25 <Vanhayes> ha
00:25 <wrtlprnft> spidey: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#helpfromstaff
00:25 <wrtlprnft> omg
00:25 <wrtlprnft> just heard that try
00:26 <Vanhayes> hmm that sounds like star trek
00:26 <ghableska> O_o
00:26 <spidey>     /stats p
00:26 <Vanhayes> I didnt like that show very much
00:26 <spidey> er
00:26  * ghableska wishes he could hear
00:26 <Lucifer_arma> man, I barely remember how to play that
00:26 <Lucifer_arma> heh
00:26 <wrtlprnft> http://megacitychorus.com/audio/O'_Canada.mp3
00:26 <Lucifer_arma> (it is star trek :)  )
00:26 <Vanhayes> lol
00:27 <Lucifer_arma> ack!
00:27 <Lucifer_arma> I had it all worked out!  :(
00:28 <Lucifer_arma> the imperial march sounds really nice if I could fucking play it
00:29  * ghableska gets mental image of darth vader
00:31 <Vanhayes> hmm wonder what the winamp plugin does
00:31 <spidey> (15:30:39) yahoohelper: Hi center.cen, visit www.y-source.com for our new update for yahoo messenger which allows you to view webcams and many other exciting features.
00:31 <spidey> wtf
00:31 <spidey> O_o
00:32 <Vanhayes> spidey, I had to load that plugin for it to minimize to the system tray
00:33 <spidey> ah
00:33 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/ocanada.ogg <-- fancy o canada
00:33 <spidey> yea there's plugins
00:33 <spidey> i forgot i loaded them in mine
00:33 <Vanhayes> what does the winamp one do?
00:33 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I'm done
00:33 <spidey> man
00:33 <spidey> i registered this name so long ago
00:33 <spidey> it's expired
00:34 <spidey> lol
00:34 <wrtlprnft> that means?
00:34 <Vanhayes> they can expire?
00:34 <wrtlprnft> you can just register it again?
00:34 <spidey> alindeman I can just drop it if you want
00:34 <spidey> alindeman So you can reregister (it's expired
00:34 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, if you don't use it often enough
00:34 <spidey> if they don't get used for years they expire
00:34 <spidey> lol
00:34 <wrtlprnft> spidey: that's why i told you to ask a staffer ;)
00:34 <Lucifer_arma> Vanhayes: find me some tab or sheet music for O Canada and I'll learn it
00:35 <wrtlprnft> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O_Canada#External_links <-- a piano arrangement, no clue if that helps for a guitar player
00:35  * wrtlprnft once tried to overlay the two versions of o canada he linked to and failed
00:35 <wrtlprnft> they just don't fit together :(
00:37  * Lucifer_arma can read sheet music, so a piano arrangement will probably work
00:37 <Vanhayes> #uptime
00:37 <armabot> spidey: 00:36:57 up 78 days, 40 min, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.08, 0.19
00:37 <wrtlprnft> uh, now i can't restart your stream Lucifer_arma 
00:37 <spidey>  15:37:37 up 24 min,  1 user,  load average: 0.24, 0.26, 0.25
00:37 <wrtlprnft> 24 min?!
00:37 <Lucifer_arma> that's because I shut it down
00:37 <Vanhayes> how do i get my uptime?
00:37 <wrtlprnft> ah ok
00:37 <spidey> had to restart for a xorg config to take affect
00:37 <Lucifer_arma> sorry, it doesn't run all the time
00:37 <wrtlprnft> err
00:37 <spidey> Vanhayes, it's only for nix
00:37 <spidey> :p
00:38 <wrtlprnft> spidey: you can just restart x then?
00:38 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: i guessed that
00:38 <spidey> i did
00:38 <spidey> but kde fucked up
00:38 <Vanhayes> then what does this uptime script do?
00:38 <spidey> so i restarted
00:38 <spidey> oh
00:38 <spidey> do /uptime
00:38 <Lucifer_arma> I've got it setup to save what I play, one of these days I'll probably get practicing with drums and various mixes, then I'll probably have a stream that runs all the time
00:38 -!- wejp [n=j0hannes@i577B82B9.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
00:38 <wrtlprnft> Vanhayes: it shows the uptime of my server
00:38 <spidey> see what it says
00:38 <Vanhayes> nothing
00:38 <spidey> Vanhayes, i have a NICE modded mirc client you can use
00:38 <spidey> if you want it
00:39 <Vanhayes> what is modded on it?
00:39 <spidey> it shows uptime
00:39 <spidey> os info
00:39 <spidey> nic card info
00:39 <spidey> extc
00:39 <spidey> lots of options
00:39 <wrtlprnft> there's a nice modded bot in here that does the same
00:39 <Vanhayes> meh, I dont really need any of that
00:39 <spidey> wrtlprnft, we're talking about a client..not a bot :p
00:39 <wrtlprnft> so?
00:39  * Vanhayes pokes armabot 
00:39 <ghableska> :P
00:40 <wrtlprnft> why would my client need to give away information about me
00:40 <wrtlprnft> ?
00:40 <wrtlprnft> that's what CTCP is for, if you want it
00:40 <Vanhayes> #poke armabot 
00:40 <armabot> I don't have a pointy stick...
00:40 <Lucifer_arma> I bookmarked that easybyte page, there's lots of songs on there I'd like to fool with :)
00:40 <Vanhayes> er wait that upyime works but not in channel
00:41 -!- wejp [n=j0hannes@i577B82B9.versanet.de] has joined #armagetron
00:41 <Vanhayes> it only works to tell how long freenode server is up for
00:42 <spidey> lol
00:42 <Vanhayes> Server Up 13 days, 18:26:30
00:42 <Vanhayes> * Highest connection count: 6584 (6583 clients) (131609 since server was (re)started)
00:42 <spidey> O_o
00:43 <wrtlprnft> does windows even have an uptime command?
00:43 <wrtlprnft> #u
00:43 <armabot> spidey: 00:43:00 up 78 days, 46 min, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.12
00:43 <spidey> no
00:43 <wrtlprnft> that clock needs some adjusting
00:43 <spidey> but you could do like i did
00:43 <wrtlprnft> 23 seconds ahead
00:43 <spidey> my windows install was close to nix
00:43 <spidey> ls listed directories
00:43 <wrtlprnft> install cygwin :P
00:43 <spidey> i could compile
00:43 <spidey> etc
00:44 <spidey> i want to install kde on windows
00:44 <spidey> lol
00:44 <wrtlprnft> bah
00:44 <spidey> wanna bet i can do it? :p
00:44 <wrtlprnft> uh, people have tried
00:44 <wrtlprnft> it's kdelibs that isn't easy to port iirc
00:44 <spidey> but i haven't yet :p
00:46  * spidey attempts it
00:47  * ghableska watches
00:47 <spidey> O_o
00:47 <ghableska> :P
00:49 <wrtlprnft> at least that was when i was trying to find out if there was any chance of getting kopete ported anytime soon
00:49 <Lucifer_arma> heh, they've gto God Save the Queen
00:49 <wrtlprnft> bah
00:49 <Lucifer_arma> somehow I don't think it's the SEx pistols song either
00:49 <ghableska> O_o
00:49 -!- Vanhayes_ [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu84w-156034188291.nb.aliant.net] has joined #armagetron
00:50 <Vanhayes_> spidey, you didnt have xchat you had Xchat 2
00:51 <wrtlprnft> spidey: where's your port now? I'm waiting!
00:52 <spidey> lol
00:52 <Vanhayes_> Xchat 2 seeems to be a completely free one that looks exactally like Xchat
00:52 <wrtlprnft> #night
00:52 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
00:53 <ghableska> cya
00:53  * Vanhayes_ kicks Vanhayes 
00:53 <Vanhayes_> cya
00:53 -!- Vanhayes [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu84w-156034188291.nb.aliant.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.]
00:53 -!- Vanhayes_ is now known as Vanhayes
00:54 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50872AE7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)]
00:58 <Lucifer_arma> http://streams.davefancella.com:8000/stuff.ogg.m3u  <--- here's a stream I"ll leave running for a little while
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01:07 <mkzelda> im tuned in
01:07 <spidey> are not
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01:07 <ghableska> O_o
01:07 -!- Vanhayes_ is now known as Vanhayes
01:08 <mkzelda> sounds like a snes game
01:09 <mkzelda> isnt imperial march some famous piece played backwards?
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01:09 <mkzelda> or segments of it
01:12 <mkzelda> haha, something about that music is making my dogs sniff the speakers
01:13 <mkzelda> thats some smelly music luci
01:15  * Vanhayes is away: 
01:15  * Vanhayes is away: 
01:15  * Vanhayes is away: 
01:15 <Vanhayes> hmm
01:16 -!- spidey [n=spidey@unaffiliated/mcspiddles] has left #armagetron ["Leaving"]
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01:19  * Vanhayes test
01:19 <Vanhayes> er
01:20  * Vanhayes test
01:20 <Lucifer_arma> one of the songs on the list is the midi song I wrote for Crimson Fields
01:20 <spidey> lol
01:20 <Lucifer_arma> rendered to ogg vorbis with timidity
01:21 <spidey> [spidey] (n=spidey@unaffiliated/mcspiddles
01:21 <spidey> O_o
01:22 <Vanhayes> #echo /action is me
01:22 <armabot> /action is me
01:22 <spidey> #echo "#action lol"
01:22 <armabot> #action lol
01:22 <spidey> O_o
01:22 <spidey> #action lol
01:23 <spidey> mm
01:23 <Vanhayes> #echo "/action is me"
01:23 <armabot> /action is me
01:23 <Vanhayes> bah
01:23 <spidey> lol
01:23 <spidey> man these mirrors are slo
01:23 <spidey> slow
01:23  * spidey is downloading the xserver packages and kde
01:23 <spidey> for the windows box O_o
01:24 <Vanhayes> something
01:24 <Vanhayes> heh
01:27 <spidey> almost done downloading
01:27 <spidey> worse case,i'll have lots of junk that'll take me months to remove
01:27 <spidey> best case i have kde on windows :p
01:29 <Vanhayes> id say its gonna turn out to be worst case
01:29 <spidey> knowing my luck
01:29 <spidey> probably
01:31 <Lucifer_arma> #action kicks spidey
01:33 <mkzelda> yea but the worst case sounds like windows on any other day
01:34 <spidey> lol
01:34 <spidey> looky there
01:34 <mkzelda> this is a great amon tobin mix
01:34 <spidey> i got x installed :p
01:36 <mkzelda> amon makes breaks from spitting and farting
01:36 <mkzelda> sounds, that is
01:36 <mkzelda> beans beans the musical fruit
01:36 <Lucifer_arma> amon tobin mix?
01:37 <mkzelda> its a breezeblock session from 2000
01:37 <mkzelda> charlie brown sample
01:37 <mkzelda> "i got a rock"
01:39 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, install hydrogen or write a drum sequencer?
01:39 <Lucifer_arma> because hydrogen doesn't do enough for me....
01:40  * Lucifer_arma decides on a drum sequencer for some reason
01:45 <spidey> xserver installed
01:45 <spidey> now for kde
01:50 <spidey> man this hurts my neck
01:50  * spidey finds another place for the other monitor
01:52 <luke-jr__> spidey: I suggest *not* 'emerge kde' ever =p
01:52 <spidey> why?
01:52 <luke-jr__> I suggest 'emerge kdebase-meta' and from there individual apps, like 'emerge kmail'
01:52 <luke-jr__> emerging the full KDE is way more than you'll care for
01:52 <luke-jr__> I mean, do you really need a Mr. Potato Head game?
01:52 <luke-jr__> Not to mention the compile time
01:53 <spidey> lol
01:53 <luke-jr__> and how many people want to learn *both* Japanese and Latin?
01:54 <luke-jr__> BTW, KDE 3 doesn't work on Windows
01:54 <luke-jr__> only KDE 4+
01:55 <luke-jr__> did you give up on Gentoo and *nix in general?
01:55 <spidey> cat /proc/version
01:55 <spidey> er
01:55 <spidey> Linux version 2.6.15-1-586tsc (Debian 2.6.15-3.ww1) (ww@mepis.org) (gcc version 4.0.3 20051201 (prerelease) (Debian 4.0.2-5)) #2 PREEMPT Wed Feb 1 17:40:51 EST 2006
01:55 <spidey> anyways
01:56 <spidey> kde3 runs on windows
01:56 <spidey> http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net/kde3/
01:56 <luke-jr__> it doesn't completely work
01:56 <luke-jr__> not even on OS X, which has a Qt 3 port
01:56 <luke-jr__> partially because KDE 3 requires X11
01:57 <spidey> um....
01:57 <spidey> i've done installed X11 :)
01:57 <spidey> cygwin has X11 for windows
01:57 <spidey> which runs as Xwin.exe
01:57 <spidey> :p
01:57 <luke-jr__> that's not really Windows then
01:57 <luke-jr__> =p
01:57 <spidey> lol
02:00  * spidey hates those old ass mice that use balls
02:00 <spidey> mm
02:00 <spidey> gentoo deluxe or debian
02:00  * spidey ponders
02:00 <spidey> i'll do debian this time
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02:32 <spidey> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=27249
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03:16 <spidey> zomg :p
03:16 <Fonkay> boom
03:16 <spidey> pow
03:16 <Fonkay> that was easier than expected
03:16 <spidey> LOL
03:16 <spidey> yar it's not hard to use :p
03:17 <Fonkay> i had left out the whole freenode part :/
03:17 <spidey> lmao
03:17 <Fonkay> I'm computer stupid, what can I say
03:18 <spidey> say
03:18 <spidey> boom
03:18 <Lucifer_arma> hi
03:18 <Fonkay> hi
03:18  * spidey is confused
03:18 <spidey> xterm in cygwin sees the kde package i extracted
03:18 <Fonkay> I thought everyone was afk or something to that affect
03:19 <spidey> but when i try to view the dir with iexporer
03:19 <spidey> it doesn't see them
03:19 <spidey> O_o
03:19 <Vanhayes> hello Fonkay 
03:19 <Fonkay> hey canuck
03:20 <Vanhayes> heh
03:20 <Vanhayes> #canada2
03:20 <armabot> O Canada! Our home and native land! | True patriot love in all thy sons command. | With glowing hearts we see thee rise, | The True North strong and free! | From far and wide, O Canada, | We stand on guard for thee. | God keep our land glorious and free! | O Canada, we stand on guard for thee! | O Canada, we stand on guard for thee!
03:20 <spidey> bah
03:20 <Fonkay> really I'm not sure why i have IRC, this really isn't my place
03:20 <spidey> #help Vanhayes
03:20 <armabot> spidey: (vanhayes <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo Vanhayes doesnt like it when $who says his name.".
03:20 <spidey> O_o
03:20 <Vanhayes> #vanhayes
03:20 <armabot> Vanhayes doesnt like it when Vanhayes says his name.
03:21 <Vanhayes> heh got rid of as many spam things as I could find
03:21 <spidey> #Vanhayes
03:21 <armabot> Vanhayes = the sux
03:21 <Vanhayes> grr
03:21 <spidey> better
03:21 <Vanhayes> #fluffy
03:21 <armabot> The operation succeeded.
03:21 <spidey> ?
03:21 <Vanhayes> grr
03:21  * Fonkay is confused
03:21 <Vanhayes> there is a new one
03:21 <spidey> #help Fluffy
03:21 <armabot> spidey: (fluffy <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "spam $*".
03:21 <spidey> O_o
03:21 <spidey> #list alias
03:22 <armabot> spidey: #, 42, add, admin, all, answer, anvil, armabot, armabot,, b, barf, bug, canada, canada2, ch, chatlog, clash, coin, digg, dotdotdot, eightballs, eliza, f, fe, fluffy, fortune, g, gcalc, goodbye, hello, help, hose, ignoreme, insight, it's, joke, knock, less, lipsum, lock, log, log, lotto, lucifer, luciferarma, lukejr, m, man, mashuffle, message, mfaq, missed, morning, night, pang, parrot, (1 more message)
03:22 <Vanhayes> Fonkay, armabot  is Lucifer_arma's IRC bot
03:22 <Vanhayes> it does all this stuff
03:22 <spidey> mmm
03:22 <Vanhayes> just have to put # infront of the command
03:22 <spidey> #help lucifer
03:22 <armabot> spidey: (lucifer <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo Teh #1 Redneck!".
03:22 <Vanhayes> fixed that one
03:22 <spidey> #help luciferarma
03:22 <armabot> spidey: (luciferarma <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "spam $*".
03:22 <spidey> eek
03:23 <spidey> who changed them?
03:23 <Vanhayes> no clue
03:23 <spidey> wan't me...i was banned from it when it happened :p
03:23  * spidey looks at wrtlprnft 
03:23 <Vanhayes> no
03:23 <Vanhayes> could be just some random guy
03:23 <spidey> maybe
03:23 <Fonkay> god damn player
03:23 <Vanhayes> ?
03:24 <Fonkay> music player is all fucked up fro some reason
03:24 <Vanhayes> is it winamp?
03:24 <Fonkay> it plays one song, and then freezes up and dies
03:24 <Fonkay> no!
03:24 <Vanhayes> winamp is hating me right now
03:24 <spidey> wmp?
03:24 <Fonkay> no winamp or wmp
03:24 <spidey> mmm
03:24 <spidey> musicmatch?
03:24 <Fonkay> it's some other thing
03:24 <Fonkay> quintessential player
03:25 <spidey> wtf's that
03:25 <spidey> O_o
03:25 <Fonkay> it was the one that took up the least amout of CPU usage
03:25 <Fonkay> it's like 2% usage, when it works
03:25 <spidey> appearently it sucks :p
03:25 <Fonkay> so it doesn't freeze up my game when i'm litening and playing
03:25 <Fonkay> it worked fine until a few weeks ago
03:26 <spidey> um
03:26 <spidey> why does the amount of cpu it uses matter?
03:26 <Fonkay> and it plays CD's fine.. but all the CD's i have ripped to my computer don't seem to play well
03:26 <spidey> cds scratched?
03:26 <Fonkay> i think it's the [playlists that's doing it
03:26 <Fonkay> what?
03:27  * spidey ripped some scratched cd's and i somehow got half a song at the beginning
03:27 <spidey> and half another song at the end
03:27 <Fonkay> no, the songs are fine
03:27 <Fonkay> the whole song plays.... then it freezes for a sec, and then stops playing the rest of the play list
03:27 <Vanhayes> who uses CD's on a computer?
03:28 <Fonkay> and i  have to exit and reload for it to work again
03:28 <Fonkay> they're not CD's they're CD's that have been ripped onto my compter
03:28 <Vanhayes> heh was talking to spidey
03:28 <Fonkay> oh
03:29 <spidey> Vanhayes, ummm..wtf you on about?
03:29 <Fonkay> so is no one playing arma then?
03:29 <Vanhayes> I am
03:30 <Fonkay> god damnmy compter has gone to shit
03:30 <Vanhayes> I am in bugfarm as :^
03:30 <Fonkay> damn my*
03:31 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
03:31 <armabot> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (8 players) || XzL. Clan "The Server" (8 players) || Swampland in 2.7.1 (5 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Dogfight (4 players) || ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Arena {100MBit} (4 players) || Norm's Place (4 players) || Mutiny Clan Server (3 players) || RaceToWinzone (Testversion) (2 players) || Bugfarm Fortress (2 players) || M0rph1umDuckz D3d1cat3d (1 more message)
03:31  * Lucifer_arma is making stir-fried chicken and pineapple
03:31 -!- Lucifer_arma is now known as LuciEatsPeople
03:31 <Fonkay> yummy
03:31 <spidey> well wtf
03:31 <Fonkay> i had a makeshift fajita for lunch
03:32 <Fonkay> it wasn't very good though
03:32 <Vanhayes> I had pity bread with pork on it
03:32 <Vanhayes> pita*
03:32 <Vanhayes> heh pity bread
03:32 <Fonkay> hehe pity bread
03:32 <spidey> w3rd
03:32 <Fonkay> oh my, I'm starting to think like hayes... bad sign
03:33 <Fonkay> oo, it worked
03:33 <LuciEatsPeople> what's my favorite tv show?!?
03:33 <spidey> i love luci?
03:33 <LuciEatsPeople> that might be it, lemme try it
03:33 <spidey> lol
03:33 <Fonkay> brb
03:33 <LuciEatsPeople> I'm just guessing :(
03:33 <spidey> ?
03:34 <Fonkay> guessing passwords?
03:34 <Vanhayes> lol
03:35  * Vanhayes uses the same password for everything
03:35 <Fonkay> not good
03:35 <spidey> Vanhayes, so do i
03:35 <spidey> except my computer
03:35 <spidey> i have 3 passwords
03:35 <spidey> 1 to boot it you have to have a password
03:35 <spidey> to change the boot password you have to have the bios password
03:35 <Fonkay> i use the same 4 # code for all my bank accounts
03:36 <spidey> to login to the os you have to have the os password
03:36 <Vanhayes> I mean I use the same password for every signle thing
03:36 <spidey> then to actually do anything from there you have to have the root password: p
03:36 <Vanhayes> I just dont have anything Im scared someone will take
03:36 <Fonkay> even for the bank?
03:36 <spidey> me either
03:36 <spidey> but
03:36 <spidey> i don't like peoples on my computer :p
03:36 <spidey> i fuck it up enough myself
03:36 <spidey> moreless someone else adding to it
03:36 <spidey> lol
03:37 <Vanhayes> even fo the bank
03:37 <Fonkay> i don't have my own computer
03:37 <Vanhayes> tho I only use four out of it
03:37 <Fonkay> unfortunately
03:37 <LuciEatsPeople> now I have to apply for a new pin :(
03:37  * spidey has 2 computers
03:37 <spidey> lol
03:37 <LuciEatsPeople> this is for my fafsa--financial aid for college, so it's a pin I only use once a year
03:37 <spidey> LuciEatsPeople, what you doing?
03:37 <Fonkay> you can't even guess your own fav TV show?
03:37 <spidey> oh
03:37 <LuciEatsPeople> I hate tv!
03:38  * spidey doesn't watch tv
03:38 <LuciEatsPeople> so I tried "tv sucks" "fuck tv", "Red Dwarf" etc
03:38 <spidey> i have p2p clients for that
03:38 <Fonkay> maybe it's something the kids watch
03:38 <LuciEatsPeople> I love Luci and I love Lucifer
03:38 <spidey> LOL
03:39 <Fonkay> god i hate when my dad's music gets mixed in with mine
03:39 <Vanhayes> what kind of music?
03:39 <Fonkay> my dad's?
03:39 <Vanhayes> er ya
03:40 <Vanhayes> heh question was sort of vague
03:40 <LuciEatsPeople> now I have to wait three days :(
03:40 <Fonkay> well, he has some weird shit on here
03:40 <Fonkay> actually, i think it might be my mom's music
03:40 <spidey> weird
03:40 <spidey> ls sees the dir
03:40 <spidey> so i cd qt3
03:40 <Fonkay> like wynonna judd /me barfs
03:40 <LuciEatsPeople> http://streams.davefancella.com:8000/stuff.ogg.m3u  <--- here's a stream I"ll leave running for a little while
03:40 <spidey> it says it doesn't exsist O_o
03:40  * LuciEatsPeople is a spammer
03:40 <spidey> s
03:40 <spidey> p
03:40 <spidey> a
03:40 <spidey> m
03:40 <Vanhayes> lol
03:41 <Vanhayes> wynona judge sounds old
03:41 <Fonkay> right now im listening to APC
03:41 <Vanhayes> 0_o I have -1 in CT
03:41 <Vanhayes> APC?
03:41 <Vanhayes> sounds familiar
03:41 <LuciEatsPeople> heh, it's playing the Crimson Fields song
03:41 <Fonkay> A perfect Circle
03:42 <Vanhayes> ya thats it
03:42 <Fonkay> it's like an angry version of Tool
03:42 <spidey> woot
03:42 <Fonkay> not that Tool is cool calm and collected
03:42 <spidey> |----| this close to kde on windows
03:43 <spidey> if i'd pay more attention to the other computer i'd have it already :/
03:43 <Fonkay> sounds like a waste of time to me spidey
03:43 <spidey> maybe
03:43 <LuciEatsPeople> yeah, why bother getting kde to run in windows when it runs fine in linux?
03:43 <spidey> cause i wanna
03:43 <spidey> and wrtl basically said i couldn't
03:43 <spidey> so i am :p
03:44 <Vanhayes> sound like a complete waste of time to me
03:44 <Fonkay> did you go to the link i sent you spidey?
03:44 <spidey> ummm
03:44 <spidey> you do realize all i do EVERY day is waste time
03:44 <spidey> ?
03:44 <spidey> right
03:44 <spidey> Fonkay, yar
03:44 <Fonkay> yar?
03:44 <spidey> yea
03:44 <Fonkay> what are you a pirate?
03:45 <Vanhayes> Hi ho mateys eh spidey?
03:46 <Vanhayes> hmm that sounded less stupid in my head
03:46 <spidey> ar
03:46 <Fonkay> hehe, lock stock and two smoking barrels was on my music playlist
03:46 <spidey> sliver me timbers
03:46 <spidey> O_o
03:46 <Vanhayes> shiver u mean?
03:46 <Fonkay> shiver*
03:46 <spidey> w/e
03:47 <Fonkay> so what exaclt are the commands for this thing?
03:47 <Fonkay> exactly*
03:47 <LuciEatsPeople> same as in arma
03:47 <LuciEatsPeople> so /team message only sends a message to your team :)
03:47 <Fonkay> ok, easy enough
03:47 <spidey> haha
03:48  * Vanhayes tried it and it didnt work
03:48 <Fonkay> i can shuffle? yay!
03:48 <spidey> * team :Unknown command
03:48 <spidey>  /team Vanhayes = the sux
03:48 <Vanhayes> #shuffle f o n k a y
03:48 <armabot> Vanhayes: a o f y n k
03:48 <Vanhayes> heh
03:48 <Fonkay> nice
03:48 <LuciEatsPeople> my stream seems to have stopped
03:49 <Fonkay> i should be sleeping
03:49 <spidey> #shuffle s u p e r c a l a f r a g a l i s t i c s e x p e a l a d o s e s z o m g w t f h a x p l z k t h n x b b q
03:49 <armabot> spidey: p a s l f m x t s z a h a w l k c s i p t s c a a q x f d e a g g b z o h r u t r e l a n x o i b e p e s l
03:49 <Vanhayes> winamp hates me and closes whenever I open it so i wouldnt know
03:49 <spidey> lol
03:49  * Fonkay doesn't have winamp
03:49 <Vanhayes> isnt it like isnt it 15 minutes to 12 there?
03:49 <Fonkay> to 11
03:50 <Vanhayes> hmm
03:50 <Fonkay> in the same time zone as you silly
03:50 <Vanhayes> argh forgot there was no time zone diff
03:50 <Fonkay> but i have to wake up in like 6 hrs
03:50 <Vanhayes> work?
03:50 <Fonkay> and work 10
03:50 <Fonkay> yep
03:50 <Vanhayes> tim hortens?
03:50 <Fonkay> hehe, no
03:51  * Vanhayes is a Timmy ho
03:51 <Fonkay> we do serve coffee though
03:51 <Vanhayes> where at?
03:51 <Fonkay> cora's
03:51 <Vanhayes> never heard of it
03:51 <Fonkay> only for another 3 weeks though
03:51 <Fonkay> there's one in moncton
03:51 <Vanhayes> im more south
03:52 <Fonkay> yea
03:52 <Vanhayes> er maybe
03:52 <Fonkay> but still
03:52 <Vanhayes> what is it? 
03:52 <Fonkay> breakfast and lunch restaurant
03:52 <Fonkay> open 6 - 3
03:52 <Vanhayes> nice
03:52 <spidey_> root@abyss ~/opt/kde3/bin
03:52 <spidey_> $ uname -omnrvi
03:52 <spidey_> abyss 1.5.20(0.156/4/2) 2006-07-01 02:22 i686 unknown Cygwin
03:52 <Fonkay> yea, it's nice getting off at a nice time
03:53 <spidey_> windows
03:53 <spidey_> ;x
03:53 <Fonkay> wow, bad sentence
03:53  * Fonkay pokes spidey
03:53 <Vanhayes> ha
03:53  * spidey_ pokes Fonkay
03:53 <spidey> O_o
03:53 <Fonkay> _
03:53 <spidey> _
03:53 <spidey> no
03:54 <Fonkay> i should have drank 3 cups of coffee before bed
03:54 <Fonkay> shouldn't have*
03:55 <Fonkay> so i'm going to go play some arma, and then off to bed
03:55 <spidey> shouldn't've*
03:55 <LuciEatsPeople> got kde running yet, spidey?
03:55 <Fonkay> it's not good to work with sharp knives and hot grills without sleep
03:55 <spidey> 'er
03:55 <Vanhayes> heh try to get of your cafene high?
03:55 <spidey> i only pay attention every now and then
03:55 <spidey> hold on
03:55 <LuciEatsPeople> man, I used to go work stoned off my ass
03:56 <Fonkay> i don't do drugs
03:56 <LuciEatsPeople> they'd make me work the grill because I was useless for anything else when I did that :)
03:56 <Fonkay> but many people at my work come high
03:56 <LuciEatsPeople> well, I don't anymore either, but this was like 12 years ago
03:56 <Vanhayes> I go to work drunk cause I have shitty hours
03:56 <Vanhayes> I get drunk then 3 hours later have to go in
03:57 <spidey> www.fallin-angels.com/untitled.JPG i've gotten that far
03:57 <Fonkay> omg, i just found vanilla ice on my computer
03:57 <spidey> wait
03:57 <Vanhayes> I hate haveing about 20 people working at a small town tim hortens
03:57 <spidey> wrong picture
03:57 <LuciEatsPeople> wrong screenshot?
03:58 <spidey> www.fallin-angels.com/pwn.JPG i've gotten that far
03:58 <LuciEatsPeople> vanilla ice?
03:58 <spidey> that one
03:58 <Fonkay> Ninja Rap from TMNT
03:58 <Vanhayes> lol
03:58 <Fonkay> what a horrible song
03:58 <Fonkay> im not sure how this got on here though
03:58 <LuciEatsPeople> so where's kde?
03:58 <spidey> not there yet :p
03:59 <spidey> i got the base though
03:59 <spidey> that's enough fornow :p
03:59  * Vanhayes attempts to start winamp up again
03:59 <LuciEatsPeople> that's how southerners say "I give up"
03:59 <spidey> not really
03:59  * spidey doesn't give up
03:59 <LuciEatsPeople> really
04:00 <spidey> really
04:00 <spidey> unless i get lazy
04:00 <spidey> i've got this far,i'm not giving up
04:00 <LuciEatsPeople> that's like saying "unless water isn't wet"
04:00 <spidey> haha
04:00 <spidey> water isn't wet
04:00 <spidey> the person that gets in the water is wet
04:00 <spidey> :)
04:01 <LuciEatsPeople> has luke-jr__ taken over your head again, spidey?
04:01 <spidey> LMAO
04:01 -!- LuciEatsPeople is now known as Lucifer_arma
04:02 <Lucifer_arma> these wontons would be perfect if I hadn't fried them in butter flavored crisco
04:02 <Vanhayes> argh your stupid winamp plugin is going crazy spidey 
04:02 <spidey> ?
04:03 <Vanhayes> pop ups saying Invalid filname 
04:03 <Vanhayes> 60 of them
04:03 <Vanhayes> crazy
04:04 <Vanhayes> it got to 83 before I ended the process
04:04 <Vanhayes> now winamp wont work at all
04:05 <Fonkay> wtf is up with fortress?
04:05 <Lucifer_arma> I'm gonna become a rapper, and I'm going to name myself White Chocolate
04:05 <Lucifer_arma> and I'm going to run a spell-checker on all my lyrics
04:06 <Fonkay> go to fortress someone
04:06 <Vanhayes> ok
04:07 <Vanhayes> wow lots of bots
04:14 <Vanhayes> heh skip has always had problems
04:26 <Fonkay> ok, time for sleep, g'night
04:26 <Lucifer_arma> 'night Fonkay 
04:26 <Fonkay> later
04:26 <Vanhayes> night Fonkay 
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04:27 <Lucifer_arma> I am sooooo tired of answering the "Why doesn't my server show up on the list?" question
04:27 <Vanhayes> mmm, the only thing in the house to eat without cooking it was pita bread and peanut butter and a banana
04:30 <spidey> tell them
04:30 <spidey> "router"
04:30 <spidey> "firewall"
04:30 <spidey> only 2 things it is
04:30 <spidey> or "talk_to_master 1"
04:30 <spidey> you should put those 2 things in a part on the wiki and make a instant chat
04:30 <spidey> lol
04:31 <Vanhayes> ?
04:31 <spidey> Lucifer_arma I am sooooo tired of answering the "Why doesn't my server show up on the list?" question
04:31 <Vanhayes> tell who?o
04:31 <Vanhayes> er
04:31 <Vanhayes> o*
04:31 <spidey> whoever says "why doesn't may server show up on the list?"
04:31 <spidey> keep up man
04:31  * Vanhayes will do so
04:39 <Lucifer_arma> so you had a banana peanut butter pita sandwich?
04:39 <Vanhayes> How can i die but still have .4 rubber left?
04:39 <Vanhayes> yes I did
04:39 <Vanhayes> quite good too
04:39 <spidey> um
04:39 <spidey> i've had same problems
04:39 <spidey> only mine
04:39 <spidey> i die with half rubber left
04:39 <Vanhayes> is more left
04:39 <Vanhayes> ya same here
04:40 <spidey> like i touch a wall
04:40 <spidey> boom
04:41 <Vanhayes> ya but it even shows on the meter I have rubber left
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04:47 <Vanhayes> #list
04:47 <armabot> Vanhayes: Admin, Alias, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, Dict, Games, Google, Herald, Insult, Later, Math, Misc, News, Owner, Praise, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Time, Unix, User, Utilities, and Web
04:47 <luke-jr__> Catherine is trying to stick a graham cracker up her nose
04:50 <Vanhayes> why?
04:50 <Vanhayes> hmm I think skip is trying to so something in Bugfarm
04:56 <spidey> er
04:56 <spidey> i fucked up somewhere
04:56 <spidey> i'll restart tomorrow when i have time to actually pay attention to that monitor
04:56 <spidey> O_o
05:00 <Lucifer_arma> I think I'm just going to install hydrogen
05:07 <Lucifer_arma> http://streams.davefancella.com:8000/bass.ogg.m3u <--- can you hear drums?
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05:37 <spidey> kafeine doesn't stream it :/
05:37 <spidey> well it does
05:38 <spidey> but i can't hear anything
05:38 <spidey> nvm
05:38 <spidey> i hear it
05:38 <spidey> O_o
05:40 <spidey> ok now it stopped
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> did you hear the drums?
05:43 <spidey> yst
05:43 <spidey> yar
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> and bass?
05:43 <spidey> yea
05:43 <spidey> it stopped though
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> ok, cool.  :)
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I just stoped it.
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> my wife also interupted me at some point to nag
05:43 <spidey> lol
05:43 <spidey> that must have been the first stop
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> probably
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> she sees me playing my bass and figures I'm not doing anything important
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> I say "just because it's not important to you doesn't mean it's not important"
05:44 <spidey> lol
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> anyway kaffeine wouldn't stream it to me because I had the sound card being used by other things so I couldn't check it myself, thanks
05:45 <Lucifer_arma> had to install aumix again, kmix wouldn't let me pick an output device for my capture device :(
05:45 <spidey> mmm
05:45 <spidey> ok,though i'm not sure what that means,lol
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> heh
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> well, normally you pick the microphone as your capture device, right?
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> in fact, that's the most common default setting
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> but what if you want someone to hear what you hear?
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> anyway
05:46  * Lucifer_arma is smoking, bbiab
05:47 <spidey> ah
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05:56 <spidey> it's back O_o
05:57 <Vanhayes> luke-jr_ what setting controls being able to pass thru walls?
05:58 <spidey> respawn?
06:08 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes: it's automatically disabled if someone uses an old client
06:09 <Vanhayes> so there is no command for it?
06:09 <luke-jr_> CYCLE_INVULNERABLE_TIME or smth
06:14 <Vanhayes> hmm i see if has his race server back up
06:14 <Vanhayes> #night
06:14 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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06:46 <spidey> i just ripped a chunk of skin with a tick attacked to it out
06:46 <spidey> O_o
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> man, I ripped something off my face last night that looked really weird.  It looked like a tick, but when I split it with my hand it came apart like wax,
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> not like a bloody tick
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> it had been embedded in my cheek, I wonder if there's a hole now
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> why are there two spideys?
07:02 <spidey> ?
07:02 <spidey> oh
07:02 <spidey> one's on the windows box
07:03 <spidey> and the mouse came unplugged and i don't feel like crawling under it and plugging it back in
07:03 <spidey> so for it sits there
07:07 <spidey> oot@fbi.gov[Desktop]# ./armagetronad-0.3.0.i686-generic-linux-gnu.package
07:07 <spidey> bash: ./armagetronad-0.3.0.i686-generic-linux-gnu.package: Permission denied
07:07 <spidey> wtf
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07:48 <Lucifer_arma> chmod uga+x armagetronad*.package
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> or
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> sh armagetronad*.package
07:59 <spidey> got it
07:59 <spidey> used bash
08:05 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, there's this bug i keep getting and this one's not just on mbc
08:05 <spidey> i get it on fortress aswell
08:06 <spidey> i die with <2/3 rubber
08:06 <Lucifer_arma> got a recording?  post it on the forums?  ;)
08:07 <Lucifer_arma> or just call BUG when it happens and describe it...
08:08 <spidey> mmm
08:08 <spidey> i can get a recording,but do i have to post on the forums....i dunno what to say :/
08:08 <spidey> and brb i'm getting bad lag,need to restart the router
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08:11 <mkzelda> i played mbc for the first time in a year a few days ago
08:11 <mkzelda> had that prob a lot
08:11 <mkzelda> dying w/ no rubber usage at all
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08:11 <mkzelda> something insane like 45 rubber there
08:11 <mkzelda> die the sec i approached a wall
08:11 <spidey> ?
08:11 <mkzelda> that bug @ mbc
08:11 <spidey> it's not just mbc
08:12 <spidey> i get it everywhere
08:12 <mkzelda> yea, but iw as saying i got it
08:12 <mkzelda> i'd used no rubber, and ran up to a wall and died
08:12 <spidey> yea
08:12 <mkzelda> w/ 45 rubber u should be able to just run into it for like 10 secs
08:12 <spidey> heh
08:12 <mkzelda> 5 minutes
08:12 <mkzelda> heh
08:13 <spidey> with break even longer
08:13 <spidey> :p
08:13 <spidey> back to tron
08:13 <mkzelda> arg
08:13 <mkzelda> no amd64 livecd exists w/ kernel headers >= 2.6.16 and reiser4 support
08:13 <mkzelda> ive been locked outta my machine for 2 months now
08:14 <mkzelda> rr64 theoretically has it but the reiser4 support is broken
08:14 <mkzelda> older version's reiser4 works but the headers are 2.6.11
08:15 <mkzelda> i try to compile glibc and it says kernel too old
08:16 <mkzelda> arg, uname -r = 2.6.16-reiser4-r3-nosmp
08:16 <mkzelda> mount /dev/sda3 -t reiser4 /mnt/gentoo
08:16 <mkzelda> unknown filesystem type 'reiser4'
08:16 <mkzelda> heh, go figure
08:16 <mkzelda> reiser4 in the kernel name
08:34 <spidey> fuck man
08:34 <spidey> i'm getting some major lag
08:34 <spidey> for no reason
08:34  * spidey tests connection speed
08:37 <spidey> omg
08:37 <spidey> OMG
08:37 <spidey> you gotta be shitting me
08:37 <spidey> 28kbps
08:37 <spidey> upload
08:37 <spidey> that's like
08:37 <spidey> 2.5kb/s
08:37 <spidey> wtf
08:38 <spidey> NO WAY
08:38 <spidey> Last Result:
08:38 <spidey> Download Speed: 2956 kbps (369.5 KB/sec transfer rate)
08:38 <spidey> Upload Speed: 6 kbps (0.8 KB/sec transfer rate)
08:38 <spidey> what the hell is that about
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08:55 <spidey> man
08:55 <spidey> my isp's gonna get a bitching like never before
08:56 <spidey> this is getting to be bullshit
08:56 <spidey> actually
08:56 <spidey> it bullshit after the 4th rain
08:57 <spidey> i'ma tell them i'ma start recommending people to bellsouth cause charter sucks
08:57 <spidey> lol
09:17 <wrtlprnft> spidey: any progress with kde?
09:17 <spidey> i got the base down but i fucked up somewhere at the beginning
09:18 <spidey> so i'ma restart it today when i can find a place for the monitor where it doesn't kill my neck
09:19 <spidey> for now
09:19 <spidey> my main worries
09:19 <spidey> is getting my upload speed above .8kb/s
09:19 <spidey> which is gonna require bitching at my isp some more
09:20 <mkzelda> ouch
09:20 <mkzelda> dialup is faster
09:21 <mkzelda> tell them u've bridged your dialup to your cable for uploads
09:21 <mkzelda> so you could go 4 times faster than cable
09:21 <mkzelda> 5 or 6 times actually
09:22 <spidey> LOL
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09:22 <spidey> i dunno
09:22 <spidey> but a .8kb/s upload is bullshit
09:22 <mkzelda> sure is
09:23 <spidey> specially on cable
09:23 <spidey> :|
09:23 <mkzelda> i thot 45k/s sux
09:23 <mkzelda> .8 has to limit your download too
09:23 <mkzelda> cause of the negotiation needed
09:23 <spidey> my normal upstram is about 30kb/s
09:23 <spidey> no i get my full download
09:24 <spidey> 360+kb/s
09:24 <mkzelda> just to make sure, your cat5 is in good condition right
09:24 <mkzelda> ?
09:25 <spidey> cat5?
09:25 <mkzelda> your ethernet cabling
09:25 <spidey> oh
09:25 <spidey> yea
09:25 <spidey> it's new
09:25 <mkzelda> cause i've had that problem when i had a wire under the carpet and my chair managed to rub the wires inside the outer insulation coat
09:25 <spidey> no that's not the problem
09:25 <spidey> but
09:25 <mkzelda> had enough noise to cause trouble w/ outbound or incoming
09:26 <mkzelda> as if it was half duplex
09:26 <spidey> just to check i've got another set i haven't taken out of the case yet
09:26 <spidey> brb
09:26 <mkzelda> twisted pair came untwisted
09:27 <spidey> lol @ a 4ft cable
09:27 <mkzelda> i wired my whole house w/ cat6
09:27 <wrtlprnft> #g 4ft in m
09:27 <armabot> 4 feet = 1.2192 meters
09:27 <mkzelda> put boxes in the walls of every room
09:28 <mkzelda> i could have a sweet lan party
09:28 <mkzelda> if i had any friends
09:28 <mkzelda> haha
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09:28 <wrtlprnft> aren't there other DpG guys?
09:29 <wrtlprnft> i thought that was some sort of programming club
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09:29 <spidey> ok
09:29 <spidey> brb testing speeds
09:30 <mkzelda> there are 2 of us in dpg
09:30 <mkzelda> flea and i
09:30 <spidey> lol
09:30 <spidey> upload start is taking forever
09:31 <mkzelda> i've known him for like 13 years
09:31 <spidey> i dun think it's fonna work
09:31 <mkzelda> we started dpg when we made our high school's website
09:31 <spidey> O_o
09:32 <wrtlprnft> just 2? I thought there was more
09:32 <mkzelda> nah
09:32 <mkzelda> its not really a clan, as we dont do anything other than tag ourselves and our work w/ dpg
09:32 <mkzelda> i mean, we dont get involved in that stuff like starting wars and stuff
09:33 <spidey> Last Result:
09:33 <spidey> Download Speed: 2954 kbps (369.3 KB/sec transfer rate)
09:33 <spidey> Upload Speed: 32 kbps (4 KB/sec transfer rate)
09:33 <spidey> LOL
09:33 <mkzelda> woooo sweet
09:33 <mkzelda> you're rockin now
09:33 <spidey> i'm moven up in class dood
09:33 <spidey> a whole 4kb/s
09:33 <mkzelda> you just moved up to dialup
09:33 <mkzelda> congrats
09:33 <spidey> actually
09:34 <spidey> i was on dialup
09:34 <spidey> 14.4k
09:34 <spidey> :p
09:34 <mkzelda> yea that wont go that fast
09:34 <spidey> lol
09:34 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #morning
09:34 <armabot> Good Morning [Xpert]DarkStar Random Fortune:  Earth -- mother of the most beautiful women in the universe. || -- Apollo, "Who Mourns for Adonais?" stardate 3468.1
09:35 <spidey> hahahah
09:35 <spidey> check out my upstream signal
09:35 <spidey> Name
09:35 <spidey> 	 WebSTAR DPX110
09:35 <spidey> Modem Serial Number
09:35 <spidey> 	 SM0232180
09:35 <spidey> Cable Modem MAC Address
09:35 <spidey> 	 00:40:7B:3E:54:9E
09:35 <spidey> Hardware Version
09:35 <spidey> 	 3.0
09:35 <spidey> Software Version
09:35 <spidey> 	 1.0.5 r1.1.3.1-041125 (dpx110-v105r1131-rw-041125a.bin)
09:35 <spidey> Receive Power Level
09:35 <spidey> 	  0.02 dBmV
09:35 <spidey> Transmit Power Level
09:35 <wrtlprnft> ...
09:35 <spidey> 	 46.00 dBmV
09:35 <wrtlprnft> ...
09:35 <spidey> 46db!
09:35 <wrtlprnft> ...
09:35 <mkzelda> hehe
09:36 <spidey> wrtlprnft, the higher the db the lower the speed
09:36 <spidey> just so you know...
09:36 <mkzelda> are u splitting the cable?
09:36 <spidey> nope
09:36 <spidey> i disconnected the router
09:36 <spidey> thought that was the problem
09:36 <spidey> but appearently wasn't
09:37 <mkzelda> how is tron w/ that fantastic connection
09:37 <spidey> actually
09:37 <spidey> in mbc
09:37 <spidey> i manage to keep a 69-78 ping
09:38 <wrtlprnft> spidey: the higher the noise please
09:38 <spidey> db/noise samething
09:38 <wrtlprnft> hech, won't those americans ever get that you shouldn't mix up units and dimensions?
09:38 <wrtlprnft> *heck
09:39 <spidey> won't those europeans ever learn how to spell meters :)
09:39 <wrtlprnft> ?!
09:39 <mkzelda> haha
09:39 <wrtlprnft> it's just britain and canada afaik
09:39 <mkzelda> how about loose and lose
09:39  * wrtlprnft knows how to spell "lose"
09:39 <mkzelda> cause u do a lot of it
09:40 <mkzelda> :D
09:40 <spidey> hahahah
09:40 <wrtlprnft> how about they're and their spidey?
09:40 <spidey> they're = they are
09:40 <wrtlprnft> or it's and its for that matter
09:40 <spidey> and their = a place
09:40 <mkzelda> hahahaha
09:40 <spidey> it's = it is
09:40 <mkzelda> there = a place
09:40 <[Xpert]DarkStar> there = ?
09:40 <spidey> O_o
09:40 <wrtlprnft> spidey: i know, but you mix it up all the time
09:40 <spidey> hey i never said i was good at english
09:40 <spidey> infact 
09:40 <spidey> it's my lowest subject
09:40 <spidey> :)
09:41 <[Xpert]DarkStar> infarct :P
09:41 <mkzelda> their = plural posessive
09:41 <[Xpert]DarkStar> they're cool with their car there
09:41 <spidey> O_o
09:41 <[Xpert]DarkStar> did i mention i'm not a native english speaker?
09:42 <wrtlprnft> [Xpert]DarkStar: more likely their more cool with they're car there
09:42 <spidey> me either
09:42 <spidey> my native language is jibberish
09:42 <spidey> Last Result:
09:42 <spidey> Download Speed: 2956 kbps (369.5 KB/sec transfer rate)
09:42 <spidey> Upload Speed: 11 kbps (1.4 KB/sec transfer rate)
09:42 <spidey> i just got downgraded!
09:42 <mkzelda> time to see if lagfarm is just a bunch of ppl tking still
09:42  * spidey attempts to play
09:42 <spidey> lol
09:44 <[Xpert]DarkStar> hmm
09:44 <[Xpert]DarkStar> gonna try and play some too
09:45 <spidey> wow
09:45 <spidey> 500+ ping
09:45 <spidey> awesome fpsthough
09:45 <spidey> i had 80-90
09:53 <[Xpert]DarkStar> for me it's the other way around :P
09:53 <spidey> 500 fps!?!?!?!?
09:53 <[Xpert]DarkStar> sometimes
09:53 <spidey> omg you suck
09:53 <spidey> gimme your card :p
09:53 <[Xpert]DarkStar> geforce 6800gt
09:53 <spidey> O_o
09:53 <[Xpert]DarkStar> amd athlon 64
09:54 <spidey> i wonder
09:54 <[Xpert]DarkStar> running linux and everything in 64 bit
09:54 <spidey> heh
09:54 <spidey> 32 bit runs hella faster on a 32bit processor
09:54 <spidey> wait
09:54 <spidey> 32 bit runs hella faster on a 64bit processor
09:54 <spidey> 32 bit OS runs hella faster on a 64bit processor
09:54 <spidey> i'll get something right one of these days,i promis
09:54 <[Xpert]DarkStar> and 64bit is even faster
09:55 <spidey> promise!!!!!
09:55 <[Xpert]DarkStar> iirc 32 bit OS runs slower on 64 bit CPUs
09:55 <[Xpert]DarkStar> but not remarkably
09:55 <spidey> no
09:55 <spidey> 64bit os runs slower on a 32bit processor
09:55 <spidey> 32bit = faster ;x
09:55 <[Xpert]DarkStar> 64 bit doesn't run at all on 32 bit cpu
09:55 <spidey> mmm
09:56 <[Xpert]DarkStar> just like you can't play quake4 with an nvidia riva
09:56 <spidey> like i said
09:56 <spidey> i'll get something right one of these days,i promise
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10:05 <spidey|sleep> ^^^just to annoy wrtlprnft 
10:05 <spidey|sleep> :p
10:27 <mkzelda> i get about 900fps
10:27 <mkzelda> doesnt help lag one bit tho
10:37 <Lucifer_arma> 64 bit, natively compiled on a 64-bit processor runs about 20% slower than the same software compiled as 32-bit applications run on the same processor
10:38 <Lucifer_arma> so if performance is what you need, you're usually better off running 32-bit on a 64-bit machine.  Or so I hear, anyway.
10:39 <Lucifer_arma> otoh, if you actually need 64 bits of addressing space and all the perks that go with it, 32-bit applications will run hugely slower, if at all, because they have to go to the bus twice for each address
10:39 <Lucifer_arma> and finally, you can't link (afaik) a 32-bit app to a 64-bit library.  So you either have to maintain a separate lib directory for each one, or you have to take a stand and compile all to one
10:40 <Lucifer_arma> now, if someone would like to send me a nice opteron system so I can test all this for myself.....
10:40 <wejp> it is not true that a 64 bit binary runs slower than a 32 bit one
10:40 <wejp> at least not on amd64
10:40 <Lucifer_arma> so, basically, databases run slower on the whole
10:41 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, my information is several years old now and is basd on the first opterons that came out
10:41 <wejp> it can even be faster actually, if it makes use of the extra registers the cpu has in 64 bit mode
10:41 <wejp> and a good compiler should do that
10:41 <Lucifer_arma> they benchmarked mysql, apache, and a kernel compile (they being the people that wrote the article I'm remembering)
10:42 <wejp> several years ago the compilers (at least gcc) wasn't optimised for amd64 at all
10:42 <Lucifer_arma> this would also be several significant gcc versions ago :)
10:42 <wejp> yeah
10:43 <Lucifer_arma> subjectively, it seems like the arma servers running on 64-bit systems are more lag-free :)
10:43 <wejp> ;)
10:44 <Lucifer_arma> hmm, in the article I read they disabled whatever 32-bit optimizations they could, but I can see how that would skew the results significantly
10:44 <Lucifer_arma> two unoptimized binaries are not equivalent!
10:44 <wejp> yeah that doesn't make much sense. noone would use such binaries anyway
10:45 <Lucifer_arma> they were trying to compensate for not having optimization for 64-bit
10:45 <wejp> well yeah, but they actually can't compensate for that
10:46 <Lucifer_arma> they compared it to optimized 32-bit binaries because you need a control group if you're trying to be experimental
10:47 <wejp> another advantage of 64 bit cpus vs. 32 bit is, that you don't have this lowmem/highmem thing on 64 bit
10:47 <Lucifer_arma> what makes the most reasonable sense to me is that they'd run at the same speed, assuming comparable optimizations available, or slightly faster becasue of the incremental improvement the 64-bit processors have over the 32-bit ones
10:48 <Lucifer_arma> where slightly faster are the 64-bit binaries that can actually take advantage of the processor's architecture
10:49 <Lucifer_arma> not that it matters much to me, we need more bits.  :)  The transition to 64-bit is inevitable, and it will be better in the long run anyway
10:49 <wejp> yes, they are not faster because it is 64 bit (unless you need huge amounts of memory), but because the cpu has features the 32 bit cpu does not have
10:50 <[Xpert]DarkStar> i remember my own tests (i know they weren't very extensive) where i found out that my amd64@2ghz is 5 times faster than the p4@2.4ghz
10:50 <wejp> wow
10:50 <Lucifer_arma> well, database and web servers both strike me as applications that should be faster because they can use their ram caches better
10:50 <wejp> yeah
10:50 <Lucifer_arma> but arma, surprisingly enough, *shouldn't* be faster because it doesn't use much memory, and most of the work is in the video card anyway
10:51 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know, maybe the 64-bit thing means more data can be sent to the vid card, but I don't see it affecting servers much
10:51 <Lucifer_arma> maybe better floating point accuracy?
10:51 <[Xpert]DarkStar> on a server there is _noting_ done by the vid card ;)
10:51 <Lucifer_arma> right, but there's also nothing done on a server that isn't also done on a client :)
10:52 <[Xpert]DarkStar> 1
10:52 <Lucifer_arma> 2
10:52 <Lucifer_arma> ?
10:52 <wejp> arma servers aren't very cpu demanding anyway
10:52 <Lucifer_arma> tell that to my server
10:52 <[Xpert]DarkStar> 1 = true
10:53 <[Xpert]DarkStar> wejp: so why can't i run a tron server on my sparc?
10:53 <[Xpert]DarkStar> (running at 150mhz)
10:53 <Lucifer_arma> can you get it to compile?
10:53 <[Xpert]DarkStar> i mean... with 2 players online it is at 100% cpu usage
10:53 <wejp> oh, ok that can be a little to slow actually
10:53 <wejp> but it runs fine on a 600 MHz VIA C3 cpu, which isn't the fastest one out there ;)
10:53 <Lucifer_arma> ahhh, umm, what version?  and what's DEDICATED_FRAMERATE (or whatever it's called) set at?
10:54 <[Xpert]DarkStar> and why can't you make the tron server take advantage of smp systems?
10:54 <wejp> probably because it isn't multithreaded
10:54 <Lucifer_arma> that would require adding threading and crap
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10:54 <[Xpert]DarkStar> well... it would certainly make things better...
10:54 <wejp> not neccessarily
10:55 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, heh.  two smp implementations aren't necessarily equal either
10:55 <wejp> yeah
10:55 <[Xpert]DarkStar> perhaps getting a new server machine would make things better too
10:55 <Lucifer_arma> I suspect it would make things worse on windows, which already has problems with too many processes
10:55 <wejp> and making a non-threaded application threaded is non-trivial
10:55 <Lucifer_arma> and it would arguably make things slightly worse on single-cpu systems, which is what most people around here have anyway
10:56 <wejp> yeah
10:56 <[Xpert]DarkStar> but most people also have decent machines...
10:56 <Lucifer_arma> the only place I see it being terribly useful is also the worst place to put it, which is in the network polling.
10:56 <wejp> well even though i have a smp machine i still prefer it the way it is
10:56 <Lucifer_arma> On the one hand, you get better framerates because you're not waiting on the network for anything
10:57 <Lucifer_arma> on the other hand, you get messages arriving out of order locally.  ack!  what a pain!  Imagine what lag will look like then!
10:57 <wejp> hm, ok at least the network stuff should probably rtun in a seprate thread
10:57 <wejp> maybe that is way the fps vary so much
10:57  * Lucifer_arma admits he hasn't been deep enough in there to see it
10:58 <Lucifer_arma> well, that's why local games have so much more fps, but z-man recently committed a change that adds a timeout to one of the polling functions that wsn't previously there
10:58 <wejp> i think armagetron often runs too slow considering the not very advanced graphics
10:58 <Lucifer_arma> my fps went up a bit after that change...
10:58 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, the general "runs too slow" complaint isn't actually related to threading or anything, I think.  It has more to do with the pile of spaghetti....
10:59 <Lucifer_arma> there's a lot of code that's not optimized, period.
10:59 <wejp> well i don't know what causes it
10:59 <Lucifer_arma> there's some profiling going on, so hopefully we'll be identifying more of the bottlenecks.  In 0.3 and the trunk the biggest bottleneck is the map
11:00 <wrtlprnft> no, tables are
11:00 <Lucifer_arma> at least, according ot the last profiler output I saw
11:00 <Lucifer_arma> really?  tables overtook the map?
11:00 <wejp> that'll be good, there must be plenty of room for optimizations
11:01 <wrtlprnft> depends on your cockpit i guess
11:01 <Lucifer_arma> great, now everytime philippeqc posts we have to see a picture of someone's hands holding Pauly Shore's head
11:01 <Lucifer_arma> ah, my cockpit doesn't have many/any tables in it
11:01 <Lucifer_arma> it has one, I think.  Maybe two
11:01 <philippeqc> o poor you lucifer
11:01 <Lucifer_arma> :P
11:01 <wejp> ;)
11:02 <philippeqc> though you'd be tired of my avatar by now
11:02 <Lucifer_arma> this will be a pleasant change.  :)
11:02 <Lucifer_arma> are you, perhaps, related to Pauly Shore?  I know that's not his real name....
11:03 <Lucifer_arma> You're *not* Pauly Shore, of course, his english is worse than yours
11:03 <philippeqc> O thanks lucifer, you always leave with this warm and fuzzy feeling ;)
11:04 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, we need a check in configure for boost at some point.  I put a bug for it on sourceforge, we definitely need it before we do 0.3.1.  :)
11:04 <philippeqc> I'll have to call my buddy Pauly, and he'll pay you a visit ;)
11:04  * Lucifer_arma wants to use boost's threading classes to try to sneak threading into the game :)
11:05 <philippeqc> wonders what you'd like to thread in the game. 
11:06 <philippeqc> I though game pretty much had to follow a "animate render repeat" pattern
11:06 <Lucifer_arma> well, I have to thread some stuff in the sound engine, no choice about it.  Since I'll be taking that over instead of letting sdl deal with it, we'll finally have some noticeable threading code
11:08  * philippeqc admit of not knowing much about the realities of sound
11:08 <Lucifer_arma> well, basically, you have to fill the sound card's buffers before they run out, adn you have to guarantee that fill.  So that's one thread.
11:09 <Lucifer_arma> Then you have to read ahead for streaming sound files (like music), and you have to read far enough ahead that you don't starve the first thread
11:09 <Lucifer_arma> and you can't do the reading in the thread that fills the sound card's buffers, so that's a second thread
11:10 <Lucifer_arma> openAL provides one of these threads, I think, and sdl also provides one, and sdl_mixer hides the facts from you completely, so I have to provide at least the one that reads the music.
11:11 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, I need to get to bed, calc test tomorrow and I still have some studying to do before the test
11:12 <philippeqc> but arent thread totally unrealiable? You can schedule them, and only hope the OS runs them fast enough for your need
11:12 <philippeqc> s/fast/often
11:14 <Lucifer_arma> yes, and no
11:14 <Lucifer_arma> generally you run your internal buffers large enough that you don't have to worry, as long as your thread gets called often enough
11:14 <Lucifer_arma> but the larger your internal buffers, the more latency, heh
11:15 <Lucifer_arma> another option is to setuid root on the executable, in which case you can get high priority threads whenever you want them
11:15 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm
11:15 <philippeqc> but then, having those 2, wouldn't just inserting the filling of the buffer in the main loop be as reliable, and without the thread overhead (the coding and debuging part)
11:15  * Lucifer_arma wonders if he'll get more fps if he does that right now
11:16 <wrtlprnft> *insert comment about fps vs framerate here*
11:16 <Lucifer_arma> maybe, maybe not.  The standard practice is to divorce the reading and buffer swapping from the gui as much as possible
11:16 <Lucifer_arma> basically, you don't want sound to be starved because you're polling the network or keyboard input or rendering crap
11:17 <Lucifer_arma> sure, on a practical level that's still a concern, but conceptually, putting shit into threads works fine :)
11:17 <philippeqc> i know, I've done some threading ;) Just throwing in a word of caution 
11:17 <Lucifer_arma> I've been down this road before, I think I can handle it.  ;)
11:18 <Lucifer_arma> we'll do as much as possible from the main loop, and that's really all I can say right now.  It'll be a bit before I have to deal with it still because I'm going to build on sdl's system first anyway
11:18 <philippeqc> ok
11:18 <philippeqc> sure sounds neat
11:19 <Lucifer_arma> openal has to do some of this work for you, though, because you just tell it "play this sound located <here in memory> at this location" and it applies effects to do it
11:19 <Lucifer_arma> so you're still pretty far from the metal, just don't know how far yet
11:20 <Lucifer_arma> and it doesn't do any streaming, so I still have to stream from disk for music myself.
11:20 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, to bed!  ;)
11:20 <philippeqc> can openal do space positioning? if I have a 5.1 or 7.1 sound card, can I hear stuff behind me?
11:20 <philippeqc> cya
11:20 <Lucifer_arma> yes
11:20 <Lucifer_arma> it also does doppler shifting :)
11:20 <Lucifer_arma> a few other things
11:20 <philippeqc> neat
11:21 <Lucifer_arma> I admit I'm a bit anxious to hear the initial fortress grind with doppler shifting
11:22 <philippeqc> with people passing you and you passing them, all in a very short period of time... that'd be wicked
11:32 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5606 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
11:32 <armabot> armagetronad: Fixed trail end related simulation accuracy bugs. The rubber code now checks
11:32 <armabot> armagetronad: when a trail end will disappear and will simulate exactly to that point. When
11:32 <armabot> armagetronad: stuck on a trail end, the moment you're allowed to pass it is thus better
11:32 <armabot> armagetronad: defined even when simulating with large timesteps.
11:40 <wrtlprnft> ah, that was this bug on bf fortress yesterday :)
12:01 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5607 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/engine/eTeam.cpp: Fixed AI balancing. AIs are, at the lowest level, always allowed to join a team now. The higher level balancing code is responsible for making sure the joining makes sense.
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12:19 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r5608 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (7 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)
12:19 <armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 5602 to 5607:
12:19 <armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
12:19 <armabot> armagetronad:  r5607 | z-man | 2006-07-09 12:01:22 +0200 (Sun, 09 Jul 2006) | 1 line
12:19 <armabot> armagetronad:  Fixed AI balancing. AIs are, at the lowest level, always allowed to join a team now. The higher level balancing code is responsible for making sure the joining makes sense.
12:19 <armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
12:19 <armabot> armagetronad:  r5606 | z-man | 2006-07-09 11:32:03 +0200 (Sun, 09 Jul 2006) | 1 line
12:20 <wrtlprnft> hmm, I'll wait a while and see if there's anymore glitches before i update my server
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14:49 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Drashia/fortress/speed_diamond-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Drashia
14:49 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Drashia/fortress/cristal-0.1.0.aamap.xml: Resource by Drashia
14:53 <wrtlprnft> woo another map factoty
14:53 <wrtlprnft> *factory
14:53  * wrtlprnft loves talking to armabot
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16:36 <madmax|pt> hi
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16:53 <ghableska> hi
17:24 <cusco> yo
17:24 <ghableska> O_o
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20:07 <spidey> Last Result:
20:07 <spidey> Download Speed: 2963 kbps (370.4 KB/sec transfer rate)
20:07 <spidey> Upload Speed: 223 kbps (27.9 KB/sec transfer rate)
20:07 <spidey> zomg
20:07 <spidey> it's fixed O_o
20:24 <Vanhayes> whats fixed?
20:24 <spidey> my 4kb/s upload
20:24 <spidey> now i go play lag free tron
20:24 <spidey> bbl
20:24 <luke-jr_> lol
20:26 <luke-jr_> spidey: you should try my server
20:36 <Lucifer_arma> I woke up, can't wait to eat, got my cereal, boy was I beat.  Opened the fridge and to my dismay, there's no milk!
20:44 <spidey> :(
20:45 <madmax|pt> that thing sucks
20:45 <spidey> no doubt
20:45 <spidey> i died when there was a visible cycle length still there
20:45 <spidey> :/
20:46 <spidey> hahha@ lucifer
20:57 <luke-jr_> madmax|pt: what thing?
20:57 <Lucifer_arma> yay, SP on my server finally works
20:57 <Lucifer_arma> I played as People Eaters, and my teammate that was randomly picked was the AI called Cannibal, haha
20:57 <spidey> lol
20:59 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm off to take my calc test, bbl
21:03 <spidey> cya homie!!!
21:15 <wrtlprnft> anyone any clue how i can find out what type of RAM a computer needs without opening it?
21:30 <Niii> http://www.holin.com/cindex.html
21:33 <joda_bot> wrtlprnft: What do you want to know ? the form factor or the timings / speed ?
21:34 <joda_bot> wrtlprnft: For linux http://hosting.planetargon.com/pipermail/pdxlug/2005-May/003231.html
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21:49 <spidey> wrtlprnft, what os?
21:54 <wejp> if it is an socket 939 system one can be sure that it needs ddr ram. socket 370, slot 1 and slot a always need sd-ram
21:55 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: fix sound yet? =p
22:01 <spidey> Lucifer_arma = gone
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22:15 <madmax|pt> luke-jr_: the tail thing in bugfarm fort
22:15 <madmax|pt> or should i say, the no tail thing
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22:56 <wrtlprnft> spidey: joda_bot: Linux of course
22:57 <wrtlprnft> it's about getting more RAM for my server, but I don't wanna lose my uptime just for opening it
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23:00 <wejp> wrtlprnft: what kind of cpu does that server have?
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23:05 <wrtlprnft> model name      : Pentium II (Deschutes)
23:05  * wrtlprnft doesn't know anything about hardware
23:06 <wejp> then you need sd-ram, pc100 should be enough, pc133 is okay too of course
23:06 <wejp> maybe the mainboard of that computer is too old to handle large modules
23:07 <wrtlprnft> ga
23:07 <wrtlprnft> h
23:07 <wrtlprnft> it has three slots i think
23:07 <wejp> so if you insert >128 mb modules it might only detect 128 mb of each module
23:07 <wrtlprnft> long time since i last opened it
23:07 <wejp> yeah 3 or 4 slots are common
23:07 <wrtlprnft> guess i have to look at some stupid siemens site to find the exact specs
23:08 <wejp> if you run "lspci" you can find out more about the chipset used
23:08 <wrtlprnft> RAM is pci?!
23:08 <wejp> no it is not, but the memory controller is part of the chipset 
23:09 <wejp> how much memory do you currently have in that machine?
23:09 <wrtlprnft> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (rev 03)
23:09 <wrtlprnft> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge (rev 03)
23:09 <wejp> ah, ok 440BX chipset
23:09 <wrtlprnft> root@butler # free -m                                             /home/mathias total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
23:09 <wrtlprnft> Mem:           122        120          2          0         30         38
23:10 <wejp> that is a pretty good chipset
23:10 <wrtlprnft> that think actually is a server machine
23:10 <wrtlprnft> *thing
23:10 <wrtlprnft> i bought it used a few years ago
23:10 <wejp> oh and the cpu you are using can't handle more than 512 MB ram total
23:11 <wrtlprnft> well, if i can only have 128MB sticks...
23:11 <wrtlprnft> and 3 of them...
23:11 <wejp> yeah that should work
23:11 <wrtlprnft> any chance i can keep the old stick?
23:12 <wejp> if curently only one module is installed you can keep it of course
23:12 <wejp> if you have 2 * 32 + 1 * 64 you're out of luck though ;)
23:12 <wrtlprnft> it's one module i think
23:13 <wrtlprnft> but they don't need to have the same bus frequency or whatever?
23:13 <wejp> ok, then just add one or two modules
23:13 <wejp> they will run at 66 MHz anyway, so it does not matter if you insert PC66, PC100 or PC133 modules
23:14 <wejp> so if you buy new ones you will most likely get PC133
23:14 <wrtlprnft> time for a new server i guess :S
23:14 <wejp> hehe yeah ;)
23:15 <wrtlprnft> gah, gonna be busy tomorrow emerging xorg 7
23:15 <wejp> hehe, i've done that already :D
23:15 <wrtlprnft> last time i tried it worked, but screwed up badly when i closed the cover of my notebook
23:15 <wrtlprnft> ie crashed the whole thing
23:15 <wejp> oh
23:15 <wejp> works fine here so far
23:16 <wrtlprnft> I'd so much like to seriously try XGL without needing to keep te cover open 24/7
23:17 <wejp> i've tried a live cd with xgl a while ago. it looks really nice, but slows down everything quite a bit
23:18 <wrtlprnft> i tried to run one in qemu
23:19 <wrtlprnft> with the result that i waited ten minutes for it to boot just to have it said it didn't support the emulated graphics card
23:19 <wejp> hehe ;)
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23:30 <wrtlprnft> opera has a tendency to eat all my memory over time :S
23:31 <wrtlprnft> o_O that was more than 550MB it just freed
23:31 <wrtlprnft> out of 1024
23:31 <wejp> firefox does the same after a while
23:32 <wrtlprnft> well, i have to admit i have 58 tabs open
23:33 <wejp> hehehe, looks familiar :D
23:33 <wejp> i usually have lots of tabs open
23:33 <wrtlprnft> in 10 rows
23:34 <wrtlprnft> the bad habit comes from the fact that opera saves the tabs it has open if you exit it
23:34 <wrtlprnft> so you never lose them all
23:34 <wrtlprnft> unless you do something stupid
23:35 <wrtlprnft> like, press stupid keybindings that close them all
23:35 <wejp> yeah i like that, i had a plugin for firefox which did the same but lost the plugin when upgrading to firefox 1.5
23:35 <wrtlprnft> opera can do that since version 6 (or earlier, that was when i first tried opera)
23:36 <wejp> yeah i know
23:36 <wrtlprnft> couldn't live without it
23:36 <wrtlprnft> and mouse gestures
23:36 <wrtlprnft> and shift+arrow keys
23:36 <wrtlprnft> and mail
23:36 <wrtlprnft> and rss
23:36 <wrtlprnft> and userjs
23:36 <wejp> i've never liked mouse gestures. tried that once but didn't like it. maybe i should have tried a little longer though
23:37 <wrtlprnft> it's just soo handy if you click on links and don't have your finger on the keyboard
23:37 <wrtlprnft> hitting some back button in the edge of the screen is just too annoying
23:37 <wrtlprnft> i hate that every time i have to use ie
23:38 <wejp> in firefox you can use the backspace key to go back
23:38 <wrtlprnft> in opera too
23:38 <wejp> ah ok
23:38 <wrtlprnft> but if i have a mose (usually don't anymore) i don't have my inger on that key
23:38 <wrtlprnft> *finger
23:39 <wrtlprnft> *mouse
23:39 <wrtlprnft> uh, sign that i should go to bed
23:39 <wejp> ;)
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23:58 <spidey> wrtlprnft, just open the case and look at the room :p
23:58 <luke-jr_> RSS sucks
23:58 <spidey> ram*
23:59 <spidey> or did you find it out alrerady?
23:59  * spidey 's brain is lagging

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