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Log from 2006-05-22:
--- Day changed Mon May 22 2006
00:00 <Lucifer_arma> yay, takes keybinds now. :)
00:00 <Lucifer_arma> now to save them, heh.
00:24 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50873C02.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron
00:30 * Lucifer_arma politely greets z-man
00:30 * z-man lifts his hat
00:30 <Luke-Jr> 3
00:30 <z-man> 2
00:31 <Luke-Jr> wrong
00:31 <Luke-Jr> you say '.'
00:31 <Luke-Jr> let's try again
00:31 <Luke-Jr> 3
00:31 <z-man> umm, ok....
00:31 <z-man> .
00:31 <Luke-Jr> 1
00:32 <z-man> 4
00:32 <z-man> yawn
00:32 <Luke-Jr> 1
00:34 <Luke-Jr> aww, giving up so soon? =p
00:41 <z-man> No, I just think that I did enough to prove I saw the pattern
00:42 <z-man> And there's no point in a "how many digits of PI do you know" game if I can cheat and look them up :)
00:49 <Lucifer_arma> what's the difference between mpg123 and mpg321?
00:52 <Luke-Jr> z-man: well, the game works when people are trusted not to cheat =p
00:53 * Luke-Jr decides not to answer Lucifer_arma since he won't see it anyway
00:55 <Lucifer_arma> well, Luke-Jr, if you didn't insist upon acting like such an ass all the time, people wouldn't ignore you
00:56 <Luke-Jr> oh, so I'm not ignored?
00:56 <Luke-Jr> well, in that case, in my own experience the primary difference is that mpg321 plays some rare files mpg123 can't
00:56 <Lucifer_arma> any idea which files and why?
00:57 <Luke-Jr> might be some kind of corruption
00:57 <Luke-Jr> mpg321 uses libmad to decode
00:57 <Lucifer_arma> ahh, and mpg123 uses smpeg
00:57 <Luke-Jr> which is also faster than whatever mplayer's default mp3 decoder is
00:57 <Lucifer_arma> smpeg again, iirc
00:57 <Luke-Jr> enough to make a difference between usable and unusable playing movies on my handheld =p
00:57 <Lucifer_arma> libmad is very nice. :) It's what we'll use if we have to decode our own mp3s
00:58 <Lucifer_arma> unfortunately, sdl uses smpeg too, iirc
00:58 <Luke-Jr> according to mpg321's manpage, mpg123 is also licensed non-Free
00:58 <Lucifer_arma> in that case, mpg321 wins the contest
00:58 <Luke-Jr> it also supports run-time output device changing
00:58 <Luke-Jr> apparently mpg123 is build-time selection
00:59 <Luke-Jr> eg, picking oss,alsa, etc
00:59 <Lucifer_arma> ah. Yeha, mpg321 takes -o to tell it. I didn't know mpg123 couldn't, just assumed it could.
01:01 <Luke-Jr> you would think ogg123 would be compatible with mpg123 for interface, but no... >.>
01:01 <Luke-Jr> (random rant)
01:02 <Lucifer_arma> ? I thought the point was that it *would* be compatible?
01:03 * Lucifer_arma isn't terribly worried, moosic has a nice config file for setting programs to play various formats
01:03 <Luke-Jr> I guess the point is that it's a known name somewhat
01:05 <Lucifer_arma> then it's just a sleazy marketing trick
01:06 <Luke-Jr> guess so
01:07 <Luke-Jr> why not use MPD or such? o.o
01:11 <Lucifer_arma> mpd uses mpg123 anyway
01:12 <Lucifer_arma> the main difference between mpd and moosic is that moosic is python, mpd is perl
01:12 <Lucifer_arma> let's see, do I pick the one in python or the one in perl? Hmmmm........
01:12 * Lucifer_arma is still trying to decide, python/perl
01:12 <Lucifer_arma> heh
01:13 <Lucifer_arma> the other difference is that mpd doesn't appear to let you configure the programs it uses, so you're stuck with mpg123
01:13 <Lucifer_arma> which, for me, doesn't work, because mpg123 here is built to use libao, which doesn't work for some reason. So I need mpg321 -o alsa instead
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01:20 <Luke-Jr> oh, I was under the impression that you were writing 'moosic' from scratch
01:23 <Lucifer_arma> oh, no. I'm writing a client for moosic
01:23 <Lucifer_arma> my focus is on a ui that doesn't have a visual output and you can use with one-key commands while driving :)
01:26 <Luke-Jr> voice recog?
01:28 <Lucifer_arma> no, ps/2 keyboard
01:28 <Lucifer_arma> um, maybe someday voice recognition or touchpad or whatever
01:29 <Lucifer_arma> first, get the damn thing into my car. Second, find out if it was worthwhile. :)
01:29 <Lucifer_arma> so, curses-based ui right now. Subject to change when/if I want to.
01:30 <Luke-Jr> heh
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02:58 <guru3> hmm it seems with the round robin that it kinda easily looses your new posts
02:58 <guru3> i suggest everyone be careful
02:58 <guru3> i'll have to see about that hack for it
03:12 <Luke-Jr> hm?
03:13 <Luke-Jr> news to me?
03:13 <Luke-Jr> guess that's why every other page times out?
03:14 <guru3> well you see i set up the mysql redundancy thing
03:14 <guru3> and put forums.armagetronad.net on a round robbin
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03:25 <Luke-Jr> o
03:25 <Luke-Jr> doesn't seem to work that well
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03:36 <guru3> of course, the forums have been on a superior server for ages
03:36 <guru3> if i actually had to host them at home the whole time
03:36 <guru3> would be a much different experience
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04:04 <z-man-work> #later tell wrtlprnft which 2020 login should I check?
04:04 <armabot> z-man-work: The operation succeeded.
04:04 -!- z-man-work is now known as z-man
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> "I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as a member." (Groucho Marx) <--- a good explanation for why I won't join a clan :)
05:51 <n54> :)
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> #message wrtlprnft I put those scripts onto the wiki. Thanks! :)
05:57 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
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06:40 * McSpiddles yawns
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07:26 <Lucifer_arma> is linux hardcoded to run init?
07:29 <n54> absolutely no idea, but you should be able to change init anyhow afaik
07:35 <Lucifer_arma> aha. it is, but the kernel will take a command line argument to change it
07:35 <Lucifer_arma> I'm wondering because I'm thinking I might want something else. Been reading on sysV init, and it really is overkill for a car computer :)
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07:44 <n54> yup :)
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07:44 <n54> wb & yup, it's overkill :)
07:44 <n54> that's why lfs might be sweeter than it sounds at first
07:45 <Lucifer_arma> that's a big reason I'm considering lfs :)
07:45 <Lucifer_arma> ok, so I just left and came back testing the init option to the kernel. Not sure if it worked, I just passed it /sbin/init
07:45 <Lucifer_arma> I guess I was really testing grub. :)
07:45 <n54> :)
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> see, there's a lot of daemons that are started before X is started that really should be started after X, because X takes a little bit to start
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> and I'd rather be able to login before those daemons are started. By the time login is finished, they'll be running.
07:47 <n54> yeah and you might not want 90% of them anyway
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> I think I can take a lesson from Windows. Services are started simultaneously whenever possible
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> for the car computer I definitely don't want 90% of them. In fact, it's better for me to cut them all out and just add them as I need them.
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> so start with what I know I need, and see what works. Then add services until the whole thing works properly. :)
07:48 <n54> I agree, I'm not the one doing this and all that but I would try it that way (and you'll learn tons of arcana) :)
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> well, I've wanted to know more about the boot process for awhile, all the time suspecting I wouldn't like what I found. I see how it's nice and flexible,
07:48 <n54> you're using grub right?
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> but shell scripts are so slow, and starting a bazillion of them... seems like more time and power is spent dealing with overhead of the process than booting itself
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, grub. Well, ummm...... I have two bootloaders now. One that scans for bootable stuff and includes automatic options for CD-ROM, and then grub
07:49 <n54> ah sorry I wasn't thinking about the system start really - my fault
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> and *cough* now that I figured out grub I can add the stuff for the gentoo partition I made
07:50 <n54> :)
07:56 <Lucifer_arma> the kernel for my gentoo partition seems to have disappeared
07:56 <n54> oops?
07:59 <Lucifer_arma> big oops. Now I'm not even sure what state that partition is in.
07:59 <Lucifer_arma> which means, of course, reformatting and starting over
07:59 <n54> umm try checking it first from mandriva
07:59 <Lucifer_arma> maybe I should reformat and build it lfs instead, since I seem so bound and determined to fool with it
07:59 <n54> just in case something nice is there
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> s/mandriva/kubuntu
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> there's stuff there, it's just no longer in a known state
08:00 <n54> but there is a fs right?
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, with a partially built gentoo on it :)
08:00 <n54> or were there no data on the disk yet?
08:00 <n54> ah ok
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> see, I built a kernel and fooled with the bootloader and broke the bootloader
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> I used the Kubuntu installer as a recovery disc to fix it, broke it again, fixed it again, etc.
08:01 <n54> aah ok sorry just me being overly cautious and unknowledgeable about the situation
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> :)
08:01 <n54> sure wipe it clean, use something like eraser :D
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> now the dust has settled and I just went back to look and found less there than was supposed to be there
08:01 * n54 loves eraser!
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> eraser?
08:02 <n54> ultra-heavy-duty-mini-linux-based-disk-cleaner
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> actually, I'm going to bed in a few minutes. I'll think about what to do while I'm sleeping. :)
08:02 <n54> I use eraser35 mostly which usually takes a day.... but you can use eraser3 which just takes a few hours :)
08:03 <n54> hehe ok cya :)
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08:18 <z-man> Say, joda_bo1 , are you in two clans now?
08:20 * wrtlprnft yawns
08:22 <wrtlprnft> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=47861#47861
08:22 <wrtlprnft> haha, that's how those tricks go wrong
08:23 <wrtlprnft> z-man: uh, i don't know the exact time, but it must have been at some time after 9PM CDT. He logged in as [AW] 2020 and then changed to ]i[ 2020 IIRC
08:23 <wrtlprnft> 9PM CDT saturday, that is
08:23 <z-man> CDT is what offset?
08:24 <z-man> Mine?
08:24 <wrtlprnft> MEST-7
08:24 <wrtlprnft> *MESZ-7
08:25 <wrtlprnft> that makes it some time after 2AM on sunday for you
08:25 <z-man> right
08:25 <wrtlprnft> but I'm not sure if i met him at that time. it might have been the next day
08:25 <wrtlprnft> which would be around 2PM your time
08:30 <z-man> No, that wasn't 2020. It was ~*SP*~ ?M?g?.
08:31 <z-man> The IP is unique, but the only one logging in from that IP range was Omega.
08:32 <wrtlprnft> wouldn't have expected that from him
08:32 <wrtlprnft> to imposter 2020 i mean
08:32 <z-man> scratch that
08:33 <z-man> 2020 and Omega were active from different IPs in their range at the same time once.
08:33 <wrtlprnft> so they just use the same provider?
08:34 <z-man> And Omega is on Windows.
08:34 <z-man> Yes, just the same provider.
08:34 <wrtlprnft> hmm, so it probably was the real 2020?
08:34 <z-man> Of course, I don't know whether the logins of 2020 I've got are the TRUE 2020 :)
08:34 <z-man> yes, as far as I can tell.
08:35 <wrtlprnft> hmm, weird. Maybe he just forgot about it
08:35 <wrtlprnft> just wanted you to check, i don't think 2020 is happy if someone imposts him
08:36 <wrtlprnft> thanks :)
08:36 <z-man> nobody is :)
08:36 <z-man> yw.
08:36 <guru3> i've now got an 3800+ a 4200+ and a 4800+
08:36 <guru3> :)
08:36 <z-man> oooh.
08:36 <guru3> in fact i've got like 15 computers
08:36 <guru3> all for running seti@home
08:37 <guru3> i hope none of you are energy consumption freaks :/
08:38 <z-man> Not all of us, but me :)
08:38 <wrtlprnft> well, if they do something useful...
08:39 <guru3> but anyway
08:39 <guru3> if i set it up right i could compile a full kernel in about 5 minutes
08:40 <wrtlprnft> this decorator stuff looks like real magic to me... how can that work?
08:40 <z-man> For every decoratable class, you have a manager object
08:40 <wrtlprnft> I mean, if you don't know the size of Expensive, how does the code that uses Innocent know how much space to allocate?
08:41 <z-man> the tDecorator<> thingy templates register the size of their decorators with that
08:41 <wrtlprnft> so the constructors get more expensive?
08:41 <z-man> and the new operator asks the management object which size it needs to allocate extra
08:41 <z-man> yes, constructing/destroying objects gets a bit more expensive that with real members.
08:42 <wrtlprnft> but that requires that the constuctors/destructors aren't declared in the header file i guess
08:42 <wrtlprnft> as inline functions
08:43 <z-man> No, there are no restrictions on that.
08:44 <wrtlprnft> that's nice then :D
08:44 <guru3> i have 17 computers :/
08:44 <z-man> The only condition is that the decorated object needs to have some stuff (member functions/typedefs) but that's done by the macro.
08:44 <z-man> census update?
08:44 <wrtlprnft> 17 and counting up?
08:44 <z-man> Where did the two extra ones materialize from? :)
08:44 <guru3> well right now 17 is it
08:45 <guru3> 2 aren't really in 100% condition
08:45 <guru3> well
08:45 <guru3> 1 isn't
08:45 <guru3> the other is non-networkable
08:45 <n54> are they breeding? :o ;)
08:45 <z-man> My four keep me busy enough :)
08:46 <guru3> well i guess i'm going for an administrator position :s
08:46 <n54> hah I have four too, but only three are mine
08:46 <guru3> well i suppose one of those 17 is really my dad's
08:47 <n54> net- & sys-admin are horrible horrible jobs, don't got here :)
08:47 <guru3> but the rest i can pretty much do whatever i want with whenever i want
08:47 <n54> go there*
08:48 <guru3> the best bit is that almost all of those run gentoo
08:50 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: the spambot thing works like a charm :)
08:50 <n54> yay! :D
08:50 <wrtlprnft> i see that tonight no spam occured :D
08:50 <wrtlprnft> s/tonight/this night/
08:51 <wrtlprnft> there's usually a whole bunch at 12AM
08:53 <n54> it's a neat filter idea
08:54 <wrtlprnft> patent it ;)
08:54 <n54> hehe nah, it is trivial to overcome until one takes into account that we can make it harder and harder by adding n alternatives :)
08:55 <n54> and each try equals a new "connection" for the bot, it could be increased to such a degree that anti-DoS measuers could eb applied :D
08:56 <n54> be*
08:56 <n54> but it's not patent stuff imo :)
08:56 <n54> and it was your idea anyway wasn't it?
08:57 <wrtlprnft> it's just sad that a company would actually have a chance to make a patent on it
08:58 <n54> yes but they're just taking an opportunity, it's the patent offices fault who approve all kinds of bs
08:58 <wrtlprnft> that's why i mean it's sad
08:59 <n54> I agree - didn't intend it as a counter-argument ^^
08:59 <guru3> gonna take forever to pixelize all the hostnames :/
09:00 <n54> which hostnames?
09:00 <guru3> took a screen shot
09:00 <guru3> with me sshed to every box running gentoo
09:00 <guru3> 14 systems
09:00 <n54> oh lol
09:00 <guru3> each hostname appears 4 times
09:00 <n54> use a big black box! :) j/k
09:01 * wrtlprnft would run out of hostnames pretty fast
09:01 <guru3> then you wouldn't see anything n54 :P
09:01 <z-man> me too, my computers are all named after Muppets.
09:01 <n54> I know ^^
09:01 <n54> hehe z-man :)
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09:02 <Nixda732> hallo ihr
09:02 <n54> I haven't sone my lan for real yet but I'm planning on using nethack demons like Juiblex etc.
09:02 <n54> hi
09:02 <n54> done*
09:03 <Nixda732> mich w?rde das stats script von http://www.armagetron.nixda.net/ interessieren
09:03 <guru3> z-man: :)
09:03 <z-man> Nixda732: Musst du wohl Joda fragen
09:03 <Nixda732> wie komm ich da an den quellcode der "ladder" ;-) ?
09:04 <Nixda732> aha.. danke
09:05 <z-man> Hmm, fuer mich ist die Ladder-Seite auf nixda momentan leer
09:05 <z-man> joda_bo1: Awake?
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09:06 <z-man> joda_bot: Nixda732 hat ne frage
09:06 <z-man> er will an den Ladder-seiten quellcode von Nixda
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09:07 <joda_bot> hi
09:07 <joda_bot> sorry, war gerade wohl mal wieder ein Verbindungsproblem
09:07 <n54> hi, you're in demand :)
09:07 <guru3> i'd say we're lucky z-man's here
09:07 <guru3> cause i sure don't speak german
09:08 <n54> yes, I might be able to say "something" but it would be painful for all involved :D
09:08 <Nixda732> ;-) macht nix
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09:08 <Nixda732> hat ja keine eile
09:08 <Nixda732> ich versuchs sp?ter mal
09:08 <Nixda732> ich versuchs sp?ter mal
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09:09 <z-man> joda_bot: are you in two clans now?
09:09 * joda_bot thinks the ladder thing is broken right now ;)
09:09 * z-man agrees
09:09 <joda_bot> z-man: no actually not... .bot is an dissolved clan ;)
09:10 <guru3> hmm the png's 1.1MB :(
09:10 <z-man> So you're keeping the tag for nostalgia and because everyone knows you as joda.bot, aha.
09:12 <joda_bot> yeah that's about it
09:14 <guru3> http://electricpotential.net/temp/systems2.jpg
09:17 <n54> you have a big screen
09:18 <guru3> yes i do
09:27 <wrtlprnft> I might have helped out if i wasn't playing arma :P
09:28 <n54> ?
09:28 <wrtlprnft> with that nixda guy
09:28 <n54> ooh
09:29 <n54> well, z-man to the rescue ;)
09:29 <n54> is it a snore? is it a lightning? no! it's z-man! :D
09:29 <wrtlprnft> lol
09:29 <n54> :)
09:30 <guru3> lightning isn't a noun :/
09:31 <n54> :S
09:31 <n54> "lightning personified"
09:31 <n54> ;P
09:31 <guru3> better i suppose
09:32 <n54> as in implied but not written :)
09:32 <guru3> well
09:32 <guru3> actually
09:32 <guru3> lightning is a plural noun
09:32 * wrtlprnft is missing his daily spam dose on the wiki
09:32 <guru3> so you just can't put the a in front of it
09:33 <n54> I'm being poetic *nyah-nyah* :)
09:33 <guru3> :/
09:33 <n54> :)
09:33 <wrtlprnft> is it a snore? is it a lightning? no! it's a z-man :D
09:33 <guru3> something fishy about this poetry of yours
09:33 <wrtlprnft> is it snore? is it lightning? no! it's z-man :D
09:34 <wrtlprnft> choose one
09:34 <n54> well obviously I choose the first
09:34 <n54> including the "a" makes a tribute to "is it a bird? is it a plane" :)
09:35 <wrtlprnft> #yoda is it a snore? is it a lightning? no! it's a z-man :D
09:35 <armabot> is it no! a it's a z-man :D snore? lightning? a is it
09:35 <guru3> that makes no sense
09:35 <guru3> so don't do that again
09:35 <wrtlprnft> yeah
09:36 -!- z-man is now known as z-man-work
09:36 <z-man-work> so I'm no longer awakened by your "poetry" :)
09:36 <wrtlprnft> lol, sorry
09:36 <n54> lol
09:36 <z-man-work> np :>
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10:35 <SuPeRTaRD-bbl> armagetron doesnt see the videocard as well on this machine :/
10:35 <SuPeRTaRD-bbl> nearly same spec
10:35 <SuPeRTaRD-bbl> as my old machine
10:36 <SuPeRTaRD-bbl> runs all crappy
11:16 <guru3> i'm thinking about moving the main aa.net domain to sf hosting
11:18 <SuPeRTaRD-bbl> i dunno what that is.. heh gotta go earn my keep, bbl
11:21 <wrtlprnft> Luke-Jr will be infinitely happy
11:21 <guru3> i never said what the permissions would be
11:23 <wrtlprnft> no, i don't think he'll be happy at all
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11:28 <z-man-work> Hi nemo!
11:29 <z-man-work> nemostultae: do you have time to make a Mac build of 0.2.8.2_rc1 or do you want to wait for the final version?
11:29 <guru3> my bandwith usage at home is getting to be too high :/
11:29 <guru3> it's pissing me off
11:30 <z-man-work> guru3: Moving the site to SF will also improve our activitiy ranking there :) It'd get my vote for sure.
11:30 <guru3> actually putting the sf logo on like the wiki
11:30 <guru3> would help more
11:31 <z-man-work> Right, the logo display is what counts.
11:31 <wrtlprnft> o_O
11:31 <guru3> cause also we're gonna get the tv over the adsl
11:31 <guru3> and that could... cause funky stuff to happen
11:31 <wrtlprnft> i have that logo in my ad blocker since it is so slow and delays the loading of every page
11:31 <guru3> cause it's asyncronous
11:32 <nemostultae> z-man-work: I'll try to push it out later, after dinner.
11:32 <z-man-work> No hurry, nemostultae.
11:33 <wrtlprnft> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Cockpit_Tutorial&curid=1547&diff=4593&oldid=4509&rcid=3593
11:33 * wrtlprnft hopes Luke-Jr is happy with that
11:33 <wrtlprnft> it's more or less like CSS, just in an XML syntax
11:35 <wrtlprnft> guru3: uh, images refuse to load on the forums...
11:35 <guru3> do they
11:35 <guru3> oh well
11:35 <guru3> what images?
11:35 <wrtlprnft> the lightcycle ones on the main page
11:35 <wrtlprnft> that indicate if a forum has new posts or not
11:36 <wrtlprnft> and other icons, too
11:36 <guru3> try refreshing
11:36 <wrtlprnft> i am refreshing once in a while to see if there's new posts
11:36 <wrtlprnft> and they do come, it just takes like 2 minutes or so
11:36 <guru3> must be a fluke i think
11:37 <wrtlprnft> actually the whole forums are extremely slow, i notice
11:38 <guru3> :/
11:49 <McSpiddles> it's not slow,wrtl's just brain lagging
11:49 <McSpiddles> :p
11:50 <wrtlprnft> must be lots and lots of lag then
11:50 <wrtlprnft> but it happened before that i couldn't reach the forums at all, but my server could and i could reach my server... weird
11:51 <McSpiddles> word of advice
11:51 <McSpiddles> don't call a girl a midget,it hurts
11:51 <McSpiddles> :s
11:51 <wrtlprnft> :P
11:52 <McSpiddles> damn,if my brother gets sent off next wekk
11:52 <McSpiddles> week
11:52 <McSpiddles> i'll have $200
11:52 <McSpiddles> if he doesn't i'll have $50,lol
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13:30 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: you might be interested in this for your switch to gentoo: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Apache2_and_Drupal
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14:06 <guru3> last exam tomorrow...
14:06 <guru3> good night
14:06 <wrtlprnft> night
14:06 <wrtlprnft> cvs -f -q update -d -P '.' 2>&1
14:06 <wrtlprnft> ssh: connect to host armagetronad.cvs.sourceforge.net port 22: Connection refused
14:06 <wrtlprnft> cvs [update aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any)
14:06 <wrtlprnft> ...
14:07 <McSpiddles> pwnt
14:07 * wrtlprnft doesn't see how SF got more reliable after that CVS infrastructure change
14:07 <McSpiddles> it just doens't like you
14:07 <McSpiddles> that's all
14:07 <wrtlprnft> maybe
14:07 <McSpiddles> :p
14:33 <z-man> grr indeed
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14:44 <z-man> it's up again!
14:45 <wrtlprnft> :)
14:45 <wrtlprnft> i shouldn't commit that anyways
14:45 <wrtlprnft> it's a modification that automatically splits up messages longer than SPAM_MAXLEN into multiple smaller ones
14:54 <z-man> Err, right :)
14:58 <wrtlprnft> actually any reason not to set it to 100 or so on CVS fortress? It happens pretty frequently to me that i need longer messages, so i always type without looking and only notice later that some text disappeared
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15:15 <z-man> wrtlprnft: no, actually not. The other spam settings are lowered, so this one may be lowered, too.
15:15 <wrtlprnft> :)
15:16 <wrtlprnft> I didn't know about that setting at all until i came across it on one of the tigers network servers
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15:52 <McSpiddles> i think i've got the center attack down pretty good
15:52 <McSpiddles> i can use 4.5 rubber on a center attack
15:52 <McSpiddles> s:D
15:53 <[NP]Tangent> guys
15:53 <[NP]Tangent> I just played armagetron again for the first time in months
15:54 <[NP]Tangent> man that game rocks all over again
15:54 * [NP]Tangent was [Null]Hyper if any of you remember me
15:55 <z-man> Tron Monks?
15:55 <[NP]Tangent> ?
15:55 <[NP]Tangent> I played on Iceman's server a lot
15:55 <z-man> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Talk:THE_LADLE
15:56 <z-man> Sorry, Tangent, this had nothing to do with you :)
15:56 <z-man> wb, by the way :)
15:57 <wrtlprnft> I vaguely remember someone called hyper, yes
15:57 <wrtlprnft> why not turn arma into a religious institution?
15:58 <wrtlprnft> ;) jk
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16:02 * [NP]Tangent bows to the gods of Armagetron
16:05 <wrtlprnft> triotheism?
16:05 <[NP]Tangent> nah
16:05 <[NP]Tangent> I'm atheist
16:05 <wrtlprnft> i just referred to the "evil triumvirate"
16:06 <McSpiddles> Forget becoming a Jedi Knight with his light-sabre -- become a Tron Monk with your light-cycle!
16:06 <McSpiddles> lol
16:06 <McSpiddles> i love 2020
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16:16 <Self_Destructo> #notes
16:16 <armabot> Self_Destructo: I currently have notes waiting for Self_Destructo.
16:16 <Self_Destructo> wrtlprnft: I guess that was yesterday?
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16:29 <McSpiddles> d00000000000000d
16:29 <McSpiddles> i should slap my isp for filtering bittorrent traffic
16:29 <McSpiddles> :<
16:29 <Self_Destructo> lol
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16:32 <wrtlprnft> sucky ISP, if you ask me
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16:32 <ghableska> hi there
16:32 <wrtlprnft> laggy connection when it's raining, blocks traffic... sucks
16:32 <wrtlprnft> hi ghableska
16:32 <ghableska> did you find out whether it was the real 2020?
16:32 <ghableska> who gave out the times...
16:32 <wrtlprnft> my ISP only blocks one port, and that is a port used for some windowsspecific attack
16:33 <wrtlprnft> well, z-man sais from what he can tell it wasn't a fake
16:33 <ghableska> ok
16:33 <wrtlprnft> *says
16:34 <wrtlprnft> Self_Destructo: it wasn't at all, it seems... noone in AW knew about it, not even 2020 who organized it together with me
16:34 <wrtlprnft> well lacka did, so there is evidence
16:34 <McSpiddles> feather knew
16:34 <McSpiddles> he showed up
16:34 <McSpiddles> http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/4185/downloaded4gr.jpg
16:35 <McSpiddles> that's movies i've got on this hdd
16:35 <McSpiddles> http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/5499/downloading4gj.jpg
16:35 <ghableska> :O
16:35 <McSpiddles> that's downloading
16:35 <McSpiddles> then i got a 40gig hdd with about 50 movies on it
16:35 <ghableska> :O^2
16:35 <McSpiddles> this hdd is 111gigs
16:36 <McSpiddles> i need a ide ribbon that supports 3 hdds
16:37 <McSpiddles> i get tired of walking between computers seeing what movies i have and don't so i don't download a dup
16:37 <McSpiddles> heh
16:42 <Self_Destructo> Requirements: Metal: 320.000 Crystal: 640.000 Deuterium: 192.000
16:42 <Self_Destructo> WHAT!!!!!!!
16:43 <McSpiddles> ?
16:43 <McSpiddles> for what?
16:43 <Self_Destructo> i forgot I had to go for level 6 and not 5
16:43 <McSpiddles> ohhh
16:43 <McSpiddles> that won't be a problem for me :)
16:43 <Self_Destructo> hypherspace drive
16:43 <McSpiddles> i've got half that already
16:43 <McSpiddles> all the deuterium and metal
16:43 <Self_Destructo> well, not for me, once I shoot some IPB's
16:44 <McSpiddles> ipb's ?
16:44 <Self_Destructo> crystal will be my problem
16:44 <Self_Destructo> IPM's sorry
16:44 <McSpiddles> Metal Crystal Deuterium Energy
16:44 <McSpiddles> 434.840 214.361 101.217 17/3.199
16:44 <McSpiddles> and roughly
16:44 <McSpiddles> 100k of each total on the other 8 planets
16:45 <McSpiddles> 2 planets with 217 fields one with 277 and one with 311
16:45 <McSpiddles> i'll probably get ride of the one with 107 fields and find a bigger one
16:45 <ghableska> ogame?
16:45 <McSpiddles> all the others have 177 feilds
16:45 <McSpiddles> yea
16:46 <McSpiddles> sd,i got to give my fleet a run :D
16:46 <McSpiddles> only lost 2 lightfighters :)
16:48 <Self_Destructo> crap
16:48 <McSpiddles> ?
16:48 <Self_Destructo> someone done got my farm over the weekend
16:48 <McSpiddles> :(
16:48 <McSpiddles> read the forums
16:48 <McSpiddles> there's a farm you can have
16:48 <McSpiddles> :)
16:48 <McSpiddles> only 500 or so lightlasers
16:49 <Self_Destructo> 500k of metal, 400kcrystal, ect.
16:49 <McSpiddles> yea
16:49 <Self_Destructo> hrh
16:49 <Self_Destructo> heh
16:49 <McSpiddles> i don't have the cargo ships to spare :/
16:49 <Self_Destructo> I need to build me a silo level 4 on my 3:443 planet before I hit it
16:50 <Self_Destructo> i have about 16 just on that planet
16:50 <McSpiddles> that planet's in g6
16:50 <Self_Destructo> oh?
16:50 <McSpiddles> yea
16:50 <Self_Destructo> then I don't have the field space for it then
16:50 <McSpiddles> lol
16:51 <McSpiddles> i don't tihnk anyone else has the fleet to beat the defense
16:51 <Self_Destructo> i got 2 very crappy planets in g6
16:51 <Self_Destructo> well, my combined fleet would do it
16:51 <Self_Destructo> easily
16:51 <McSpiddles> all but 2 of my 9 planets are in g6
16:51 <McSpiddles> only 1 isn't that good
16:51 <McSpiddles> it has 107 fields
16:52 <McSpiddles> but it puts out more than the others right now
16:52 <McSpiddles> so i'ma wait to delete it
16:53 <McSpiddles> 20 more hours
16:53 <McSpiddles> then i got hyperdrive lvl5 :D
16:53 <Self_Destructo> hehe
16:53 <Self_Destructo> i got level 5 already
16:53 <McSpiddles> by then all the planets should have enough to goto lvl 6
16:53 <Self_Destructo> i just got to hit level 6 then I can make destroyers
16:53 <McSpiddles> me too :)
16:54 <McSpiddles> i need hyperdriver lvl 7 and gravitontech to get deathstars
16:55 <McSpiddles> which i need 2 more lvls on my research lab :/
16:55 <Self_Destructo> haha
16:55 <McSpiddles> shit
16:55 <McSpiddles> it's gonna cost around 800k crystal to get lvl 12
16:55 <McSpiddles> i think
16:55 <Self_Destructo> and then 300,000 power to research graviton
16:55 <McSpiddles> the power won't be a problem :)
16:55 <Self_Destructo> yes it will
16:56 <McSpiddles> i can get alot of solar sats up fast
16:56 <Self_Destructo> someone spy on you when you got 500 of those things they will like the debree field :)
16:56 <McSpiddles> need 6k solar sats
16:56 <Self_Destructo> uhuh
16:56 <Self_Destructo> well
16:57 <McSpiddles> i've only been spied on once in g6
16:57 <Self_Destructo> by what I have read, they recommend a nanite factory level 3 or 4 and then you having all the resources and doing it in one day
16:58 <McSpiddles> hmm
16:58 <Self_Destructo> just a nanite factory level 1 is 1mil metal
16:58 <McSpiddles> i can get metal like candy
16:58 <Self_Destructo> and alot of crystal and durt
16:58 <McSpiddles> that'll take time
16:58 <Lucifer_arma> #notes
16:58 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: I have no notes waiting to be delivered.
16:59 <McSpiddles> i sent psquare 230k metal and have over 400k left
16:59 <Self_Destructo> Metal: 1097610 Crystal: 444447
16:59 <Self_Destructo> Deuterium: 204022 Energy: 4848
16:59 <Self_Destructo> an inactive player
16:59 <McSpiddles> heh
16:59 <Self_Destructo> but...
16:59 <McSpiddles> killer defense?
16:59 <Self_Destructo> Defense
16:59 <Self_Destructo> Rocket Launcher 200 Light Laser 5100
16:59 <Self_Destructo> Gauss Cannon 48 Ion Cannon 86
16:59 <Self_Destructo> Plasma Turret 41 Small Shield Dome 1
16:59 <Self_Destructo> Large Shield Dome 1 Anti-Ballistic Missiles 20
16:59 <Self_Destructo> yeah
16:59 <McSpiddles> figures
17:00 <wrtlprnft> \?
17:00 <Self_Destructo> yep, it figures
17:00 <Self_Destructo> copied and asted
17:00 <Self_Destructo> pasted, lol
17:00 <McSpiddles> i think my crystal's about to double
17:00 <Self_Destructo> ?
17:00 <McSpiddles> Metal: 59796 Crystal: 440811
17:00 <McSpiddles> Deuterium: 23003 Energy: 4169
17:00 <McSpiddles> Fleets
17:00 <McSpiddles> Defense
17:00 <McSpiddles> Light Laser 2 Heavy Laser 220
17:00 <McSpiddles> Small Shield Dome 1 Large Shield Dome 1
17:00 <McSpiddles> Anti-Ballistic Missiles 10
17:01 <Self_Destructo> :o
17:01 <McSpiddles> :D
17:01 <Self_Destructo> is all this in g6?
17:01 <McSpiddles> mhmm
17:01 <McSpiddles> i've been spying on g5 too
17:01 <Self_Destructo> well, I've not done much messing around in 6, so, I think I will
17:01 <McSpiddles> haven't found much
17:02 <McSpiddles> it's good for me though, 3/4 of my fleet's in g6 :D
17:03 <McSpiddles> finally
17:03 <McSpiddles> i git max download speed
17:04 <McSpiddles> hopefully it'll stay till these are done downloading
17:04 <McSpiddles> warning sd
17:04 <Self_Destructo> ...
17:04 <McSpiddles> i got most of these reports from the alien clan
17:04 <Self_Destructo> reports?
17:05 <McSpiddles> spy reports
17:05 <McSpiddles> they're mostly alien members
17:05 <Self_Destructo> SWEET!!!!!!
17:05 <Self_Destructo> :)
17:05 <McSpiddles> http://www.microbuscity.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=6359&start=165
17:05 <McSpiddles> they don't seem to have much defense
17:05 <McSpiddles> as you can see
17:05 <McSpiddles> :p
17:06 <Self_Destructo> haha
17:07 <McSpiddles> i need a name for my 5th planet
17:07 <Self_Destructo> I saw that, that guy kept spying on everyone 6 times a day for about 3 days consecutive and even attacked a few of us in that time at 6.227
17:07 <McSpiddles> 'er
17:07 <McSpiddles> 9th
17:08 <McSpiddles> really?
17:08 <McSpiddles> well,he got pwnt :p
17:08 <McSpiddles> i got 6bombers now too
17:08 <McSpiddles> you know what we really need sd....
17:09 <McSpiddles> a few people with lvl 4 silos in g6
17:09 <McSpiddles> we could set the alien guys back a couple hundred :p
17:09 <McSpiddles> from what i've heard,psquare has destroyers to
17:11 * McSpiddles is now playing: Immortal Technique - Dance with the devil
17:11 <Self_Destructo> nice
17:11 <Self_Destructo> he does?
17:11 <Self_Destructo> heh
17:11 <McSpiddles> fire said he did
17:12 <Self_Destructo> well, I'm going to talk to gibyson and see if he has much help for me
17:12 <McSpiddles> :)
17:12 <McSpiddles> it's strange,this guy kept attacking me,he's now ranked 360something
17:12 <Self_Destructo> I am so spread out that I really have to make every planet live for itself, thier own fleet, ect.
17:12 <Self_Destructo> heh
17:13 <McSpiddles> so i started responding to his spys
17:13 <McSpiddles> then we kinda started talking regularly
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17:20 * Self_Destructo has already found some nice farms in g6
17:21 <McSpiddles> :)
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17:22 <ghableska> hi Vanhayes
17:22 <Vanhayes> hey
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17:26 <Self_Destructo> hi
17:28 <McSpiddles> http://order.1and1.com/xml/order/Hosting;jsessionid=CD301C7A916AC3B76852A5D23239A954.TC61a?__frame=_top&__lf=Static
17:28 <McSpiddles> wow
17:28 <McSpiddles> all i can say....
17:29 <McSpiddles> i pay $19 a month on 2 hosting packages that can't touch that
17:30 <McSpiddles> i think i'ma switch
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17:54 <ghableska> Hi
17:55 <Self_Destructo> wb
17:57 <wrtlprnft> wb
18:00 <McSpiddles> wb d0000d
18:00 <ghableska> :)
18:00 <McSpiddles> woot
18:01 <McSpiddles> 1.77 gigs downloaded
18:12 <ghableska> .
18:13 <McSpiddles> ..
18:13 <wrtlprnft> ...
18:13 <nemostultae> ....
18:13 <McSpiddles> ....
18:13 * wrtlprnft got the pattern! yay
18:13 <wrtlprnft> s...
18:13 <McSpiddles> ping pong
18:13 <McSpiddles> | .
18:13 <McSpiddles> . |
18:13 <wrtlprnft> #echo [pang] [peng] [ping] [pong] [pung]
18:13 <armabot> peng ping pong pung pang
18:14 <McSpiddles> hmm
18:14 <McSpiddles> | .
18:14 <McSpiddles> . |
18:14 <McSpiddles> | .
18:14 <McSpiddles> hmm
18:14 <McSpiddles> that didn't work so well
18:14 <ghableska> �
18:14 <ghableska> Er.
18:14 <ghableska> Oops. :-\
18:14 <wrtlprnft>
18:14 <wrtlprnft>
18:14 <ghableska>
18:15 <wrtlprnft>
18:15 <McSpiddles> ??????
18:15 <wrtlprnft> now this channel went totally cray
18:15 <wrtlprnft> *crazy
18:15 <McSpiddles> ?��??�
18:16 <McSpiddles> ????
18:16 <wrtlprnft> ??????? is all i see
18:16 <ghableska> !_!
18:16 <wrtlprnft> stop using that windows-1234 encoding
18:16 <McSpiddles> no
18:16 <ghableska> I see three ?'s.
18:16 <ghableska> and some weird symbol things
18:16 <wrtlprnft> ���
18:17 <McSpiddles> it's unicode big endian
18:17 <ghableska> {:--+--:}
18:17 <McSpiddles> wrtl,how do you see my name in tron when i use ascii?
18:17 <wrtlprnft> you can't be sending in unicode, i wouldn't get ??? then
18:17 <McSpiddles> it's unicode d00d
18:17 <wrtlprnft> McSpiddles: whatdya mean?
18:17 <McSpiddles> i mean when i use weird chars in tron
18:18 <McSpiddles> what do they look like
18:18 <wrtlprnft> why shouldn't i see it?
18:18 <McSpiddles> nvm :/
18:18 <wrtlprnft> the only thing that is not possible anymore is those flag things
18:18 <wrtlprnft> #canada
18:18 <armabot> 4
18:18 <wrtlprnft> looks like I'm the only one that can see that
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18:18 <McSpiddles> i see a white block with 4 in it
18:19 <ghableska> o_0
18:19 <wrtlprnft> #canada
18:19 <armabot> 4
18:19 <McSpiddles> o_O
18:19 <wrtlprnft_> o_o
18:19 <ghableska> Mine's better:P
18:19 <wrtlprnft_> opera only sees a 4
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18:19 <McSpiddles> ???
18:19 <ghableska> I see a 4 with boxes around it
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18:19 <McSpiddles> ??? ?? ??? ???? ???? ?????
18:19 <wrtlprnft> #canada
18:19 <armabot> 4
18:19 <ghableska> brownish bxes
18:19 <ghableska> *boxes
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18:19 <McSpiddles> ?? ??? ??????? ????? ???? ? ?????
18:20 <ghableska> ?^?
18:20 <wrtlprnft> all those clients that don't correctly support background colors
18:20 <wrtlprnft> ??? ??? ?????? ?? ????? ???? ???? ???? ?
18:20 <wrtlprnft> it's unicode d00d!
18:20 <McSpiddles> ?hmmm
18:20 <McSpiddles> no
18:20 <McSpiddles> that's not unicode
18:20 <McSpiddles> that's cryllic
18:20 <McSpiddles> cyrillic
18:20 <wrtlprnft> that's your client converting the characters it can't send to ?
18:21 <McSpiddles> no,that's cyrillic transliterated
18:21 <wrtlprnft> if it was unicode and my client would interpret it as latin-1 i would see weird chars
18:21 <wrtlprnft> not ?
18:21 <wrtlprnft> zzz. open another instance of your client and see for yourself
18:21 <McSpiddles> lol
18:21 <wrtlprnft> it won't get the message
18:22 <McSpiddles> k
18:22 <McSpiddles> hold on
18:22 <ghableska> blah
18:22 <wrtlprnft> ??? ??? ?????? ?? ????? ???? ???? ???? ?
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18:23 <wrtlprnft> ?
18:23 <McSpiddles> hmm
18:23 <wrtlprnft> hi, bye
18:23 * ghableska hates biology
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18:23 <McSpiddles> eh
18:23 <McSpiddles> i don't think freenode likes me
18:24 <wrtlprnft> /me likes that freenode doesn't like McSpiddles
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18:24 <McSpiddles> 'um
18:24 <McSpiddles> ok
18:24 <McSpiddles> i closed that client along time ago
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18:25 <McSpiddles> ...
18:25 <ghableska> :
18:25 -!- spidey [n=spidey@68-112-89-155.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #armagetron
18:25 <McSpiddles> there
18:25 <McSpiddles> finally
18:26 <McSpiddles> ?????? ???????
18:26 <McSpiddles> hrh
18:26 <wrtlprnft> ?
18:26 <ghableska> hrh!
18:26 <McSpiddles> ???���
18:26 <McSpiddles> now
18:26 <McSpiddles> i see that
18:26 <ghableska> aah
18:26 <wrtlprnft> ???????
18:26 <ghableska> ?
18:27 <McSpiddles> ?fgererdf
18:27 <ghableska> hjkhjk?
18:27 <McSpiddles> ?dfgdfgdfg
18:27 <ghableska> uiuoi
18:27 <McSpiddles> test
18:27 <McSpiddles> bold
18:27 <McSpiddles> :>
18:27 <ghableska> :)
18:27 <wrtlprnft> *bold*
18:27 <wrtlprnft> _underlined_
18:27 <McSpiddles> test
18:27 <wrtlprnft> /italic/
18:27 <McSpiddles> :p
18:28 <ghableska> underlined_bold_italic
18:28 <wrtlprnft> hi there
18:28 <wrtlprnft> hi there
18:28 <wrtlprnft> hi there
18:28 <wrtlprnft> hi there
18:28 <ghableska> hi there
18:28 <wrtlprnft> hi there
18:28 <wrtlprnft> hi there
18:28 <ghableska> hi
18:28 <ghableska> wee
18:28 <ghableska> hard on the eyes
18:28 <ghableska> any better?
18:28 <McSpiddles> rainbow
18:28 <wrtlprnft> i should write like that all the time
18:28 <ghableska> pretty
18:29 <McSpiddles> yes you should
18:29 <McSpiddles> i have colors stripped :p
18:29 <wrtlprnft> sooo much fun, especially if it's white on black like for me
18:29 * spidey slaps wrtlprnft around with a cream filled donut...... smack ... smack ... smack .. :)
18:29 <wrtlprnft> heh
18:29 -!- You're now known as someone
18:29 <spidey> i love this client
18:29 * someone slaps Lucifer_arma
18:29 <ghableska> and herewe go...
18:29 * someone slaps Lucifer_arma
18:29 * someone slaps Lucifer_arma
18:29 <ghableska> lol
18:29 -!- You're now known as wrtlprnft
18:29 <wrtlprnft> just for the stats
18:29 * spidey I'm too sexy for my shirt, wrtlprnft so please, rip it off me while youre at it take all my clothes off!
18:30 <ghableska> ............
18:30 <spidey> heh
18:30 <McSpiddles> i'm just bored
18:30 * McSpiddles is now playing: Necro - I Need Drugs
18:30 * spidey slaps wrtlprnft around a bit with a large chockie cheesecake in a dreamy raspberry sauce... :)
18:30 <ghableska> mmhmm
18:30 * wrtlprnft is now playing: Armagetron Advanced - A tron clone in 3D
18:30 -!- You're now known as someone
18:31 * someone slaps McSpiddles
18:31 * someone slaps McSpiddles
18:31 * someone slaps McSpiddles
18:31 * someone slaps McSpiddles
18:31 * someone slaps McSpiddles
18:31 -!- You're now known as wrtlprnft
18:31 <McSpiddles> lol
18:31 * ghableska hands McSpiddles a cheesecake.
18:31 * spidey slaps wrtlprnft to wake his up....
18:31 <McSpiddles> hmm
18:31 * spidey grabs wrtlprnft's underwear. pulls it over wrtlprnft's Head..... Now you look much better. The brown stain accentuates the shoes.
18:32 <McSpiddles> lol
18:32 <wrtlprnft> /ignore spidey
18:32 <ghableska> lol
18:32 <McSpiddles> :p
18:32 <wrtlprnft> 18:32 Ignoring ALL from spidey
18:32 * ghableska pokes someone
18:32 <lawl> :p
18:33 <wrtlprnft> 18:33 Ignoring ALL from *@68-112-89-155.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com
18:33 <McSpiddles> :/
18:33 <McSpiddles> i can do a macclone :p
18:35 <wrtlprnft> did i silence McSpiddles now, too?
18:35 <ghableska> ?
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18:35 <ghableska> spidey=McSpiddles?
18:35 <wrtlprnft> yes
18:40 <ghableska> so...
18:43 * ghableska pokes wrtlprnft
18:46 * wrtlprnft pokes ghableska
18:46 <wrtlprnft> #..
18:46 <wrtlprnft> #...
18:46 <ghableska> #echo
18:46 <armabot> ghableska: (echo <text>) -- Returns the arguments given it. Uses our standard substitute on the string(s) given to it; $nick (or $who), $randomNick, $randomInt, $botnick, $channel, $user, $host, $today, $now, and $randomDate are all handled appropriately.
18:46 <ghableska> Um...
18:46 <ghableska> nevermind
18:46 <wrtlprnft> #Luke-Jr
18:46 <armabot> Luke-Jr: We already thought of that
18:47 <ghableska> #ghableska
18:47 <wrtlprnft> o_O
18:47 <ghableska> ?
18:47 <ghableska> O_o
18:47 <wrtlprnft> O_O
18:47 <wrtlprnft> o_o
18:47 <ghableska> o_0
18:47 <wrtlprnft> �_o
18:47 <ghableska> o_o
18:48 <wrtlprnft> interesting ...conversation...
18:48 <ghableska> very
18:48 * wrtlprnft goes off to fortress
18:48 <ghableska> oops
18:48 <ghableska> #armabot
18:48 <armabot> ghableska: Maybe...
18:49 <ghableska> #armabot where did wrtlprnft go?
18:49 <armabot> ghableska: Maybe...
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19:26 <ghableska> hi.
19:27 <spider> sd?
19:27 <ghableska> ?
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20:12 <wrtlprnft> many netsplits right now...
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21:16 <lawl> http://fallinangels.no-ip.biz/
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21:22 <Lucifer_arma> mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
21:22 * n54 is half awake now
21:22 <Lucifer_arma> butter sauce with garlic powder, paprika, and thyme, used to sauce skewers on the grill :)
21:23 <n54> the skewers??
21:23 <Lucifer_arma> only next time I won't overcook the damn things so the chicken will melt in my mouth :)
21:23 <n54> or is that code for some kind of meat
21:24 <Lucifer_arma> you take cutup vegetables and meat, in about 2-3 cm squares, and stick them on a stick, then grill the whole assembly
21:24 <n54> ah ok
21:24 <Lucifer_arma> we did chicken, yellow onion, bell pepper, and corn on the cob
21:24 <Lucifer_arma> then the butter sauce, while cooking, like a baste
21:24 <Lucifer_arma> then eat it when it's done. :)
21:24 <n54> barbeque maniac :)
21:25 * Lucifer_arma resembles that remark
21:25 <n54> hehe cool
21:25 <Lucifer_arma> you can do skewers in the oven, too, but barbecue gives a nice woody flavor you don't get in the oven
21:25 <n54> I know :S
21:25 <Lucifer_arma> :)
21:26 <n54> ever tried grilled (barbequed) salmon?
21:26 <n54> ther fish will probably do well too
21:26 <n54> other*
21:26 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, did some of that a few weeks ago.
21:27 <Lucifer_arma> so far the only seafood I've done on the grill has been salmon, and it was that one time.
21:27 <n54> yummy stuff, my aunt has a knack for making that
21:27 <Lucifer_arma> if I could buy shrimp already peeled and deveined, it would make an excellent addition to these skewers I just did
21:27 <Lucifer_arma> :)
21:27 <n54> good idea
21:28 <n54> I need to buy a wok some time soon
21:28 <Lucifer_arma> The salmon I did was very good. That's good considering it was a first run for me
21:28 <Lucifer_arma> I'd expect it to get better. I want to do more seafood, but here in landlocked central texas it isn't cheap
21:28 <n54> yeah it can be a bit tricky, did you wrap them in foil or something like that for a while?
21:28 <Lucifer_arma> what? The skewers?
21:28 <n54> ah
21:28 <n54> the salmon :)
21:28 <Lucifer_arma> ah. no, I didn't.
21:29 <Lucifer_arma> and I had a hard time keeping it from sticking to the grill. :(
21:29 <n54> it can help a bit as they can get a bit lose
21:29 <n54> yeah
21:29 <n54> loose*
21:29 <Lucifer_arma> and fish meat being flaky like it is....
21:29 <n54> yep exactly
21:29 <Lucifer_arma> I used a spatula to get it off and was able to get it mostly intact, but I'm considering foil on the bottom for the next time :)
21:30 <n54> yeah, I'm not sure exactly how she does it, haven't been around at the start of the process
21:30 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm. Does it come out as fillets, or a whole fish?
21:30 <n54> she does fillets
21:31 <Lucifer_arma> that's what I did. I'm not keen to deal with the prep involved in cooking a whole fish
21:31 <n54> but with bone & skin which you disperse of when eating
21:31 <n54> yeah no that sounds overly complicated to me too
21:31 <n54> or well... I know how to do that with a campfire; just wrap the whole fish in foil and bury it :D
21:31 <Lucifer_arma> heh
21:32 <Lucifer_arma> I'm concerned about the smoke, though. I want the smoke from the fire to flavor the meat
21:32 <n54> but it's not practical for a nice dinner really :)
21:32 <Lucifer_arma> it'll probably change when I finally have a real smoker instead of just this little grill. :)
21:32 <n54> yeah that's what got me wondering how my aunt does it because it cn't be foil all the time
21:33 <n54> she just has a small fabricated grill
21:33 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm considering maybe a piece of foil on the bottom, punched with holes
21:33 <Lucifer_arma> then, if needed, wrap the sucker in foil to finish cooking, but that probably wouldn't be necessary for a fillet
21:33 <n54> but... I remeber seen the grill stripes of the fish meat so at some point either early or late it's directly on the grill I think
21:33 <Lucifer_arma> I only wrap big pieces of meat, starting around 4 lbs and going up
21:34 <Lucifer_arma> would have to be early, so the smoke can cook in, I think.
21:34 <n54> yeah probably she just put's it over on foil late on
21:34 <Lucifer_arma> she could also have a better grill where it's easier to take the meat off. :) Mine's a really cheap grill, man. real cheap.
21:35 <Lucifer_arma> if it hadn't been a present, I wouldn't have it. I wouldn't have bought one like this. :) (I'm happy to have it, though)
21:35 <n54> I don't think it's anything expensive she has, just an average small grill
21:35 <n54> :)
21:35 <Lucifer_arma> sometimes you get a real gem with a nice grill. See, that's what makes or breaks it anyway. That and air flow controls.
21:35 <Lucifer_arma> the rest almost doesn't matter. Mine's just got those round little stick-bars, and the meat flows around them and then sticks to them.
21:35 <n54> I've got a "porch" (veranda?) up here in the block i live but it's forbidden to grill here
21:36 <n54> sounds just like what she has
21:36 <Lucifer_arma> There are some that are nice and flat and very easy to peel meat off. I used to have a brinkerman (sp?) that was very nice like that. Er, that was the one I used in the barbecue stand.
21:36 <n54> ok
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21:37 <n54> yeah stuff happens
21:38 <Lucifer_arma> and every few years some little kid gets killed in it.
21:38 <n54> :S
21:38 <Lucifer_arma> in Austin there's a city ordnance now that requires you to place your grill certain minimum distance from any overhangs, and the fine is really huge
21:39 <Lucifer_arma> that's what makes it a pain. That's an ordnance I'll willingly obey, but it always put my grill out in the parking lot, and I was usually on the 2nd floor.
21:39 <n54> ok we're not having that much trouble with it here afaik, mostly it's more drunken lunatics having fun flaming their grill with various fuels
21:39 <Lucifer_arma> even here in my house I still follow that guideline, but it's different. It's my own yard, with fence, and stuff.
21:40 <n54> yeah
21:40 <Lucifer_arma> well it used to be a big problem. That ordnance has probably saved a lot of lives. :)
21:40 <n54> :)
21:41 <Lucifer_arma> I think I'm going to change my alarm clock to just use os.system() to play music
21:41 <Lucifer_arma> get rid of this stinking plugin architecture and all that crap. No need for it, really.
21:41 <n54> your py alarm?
21:42 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, only I renamed it. When I release the pyQt version it has a new name, Dave's Stupid Alarm Clock.
21:42 <n54> hehe :)
21:42 <Lucifer_arma> and if I can find a good commandline mp3 player, then the windows version will be straightforward.
21:42 <wrtlprnft> just let it call beep -l 2000 :D
21:42 <n54> hehe
21:42 <Lucifer_arma> I made that plugin by tank's request, actually. For all I know, he's still using it, too.
21:43 <wrtlprnft> i usually have my normal speakers on, but PC speakers work
21:43 <n54> ask him :)
21:43 <wrtlprnft> *off
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22:11 * n54 hates running out of smoke in the early early morning *away*
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23:40 <guru3> quiero que hablarais en espanol porque tengo mi examen de espanol hoy
23:40 <n54> :)
23:41 <n54> what does hoy mean?
23:41 <guru3> (i want you all to speak spanish because i have my spanish exam today)
23:41 <guru3> g2g breakfast
23:41 <guru3> bbiab
23:47 <guru3> habia regresado
23:48 <guru3> = (i have returned) i think...
23:48 <n54> :)
23:49 <guru3> maybe not...
23:49 <guru3> babelfish says it had returned...
23:49 <n54> don't trust babelfish
23:52 <guru3> he regresado
23:52 <guru3> have is present tense it seems
23:53 <guru3> yes that makes sense
23:53 <guru3> it's all coming back to me...
23:54 <guru3> pues, espero que vengar a mi
23:55 <guru3> *viene
23:55 <guru3> no vengar
23:56 <guru3> *not
23:56 <guru3> cause i wanted come (venir) but thought vengar (revenge) :/
23:56 <guru3> :/
23:56 <n54> I don't speak spanish so... but :)
23:56 <guru3> so really i said (well, i hope to take revenge on myself)
23:56 <guru3> i thnk
23:56 <guru3> *i think
23:56 <guru3> o'
23:57 <guru3> i'm not really a first class spanish speaker
23:57 <guru3> join #spanish
23:57 <n54> me? no way hehe
23:57 <guru3> darn no channel :/
23:57 <n54> ah
23:58 <guru3> the topic to #linux-es is great
23:58 <n54> what does it say+
23:58 <n54> ?*
23:58 <guru3> "Do you know what software Bin Laden uses for his portable? GNU/Linux"
23:59 <n54> well... they mostly use windows afaik
23:59 <n54> so hopefully they are only trying to pull a joke
23:59 <guru3> who knows
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