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[2020-11-10 18:08:02] <Lucifer_arma> the refugee thing annoys me, not least because of the right-wing opposition to it here.  I think it's reasonable that if you've put boots on the ground in any warzone or sent any military aid then you're responsible for the refugees trying to escape the warzone
[2020-11-10 18:08:21] <Lucifer_arma> you can't shit in someone else's pool without being expected to help clean it up!
[2020-11-10 18:09:31] <Lucifer_arma> of course, this overlaps significantly with our immigration issues, because many of the people at our southern border that are trying to come in legally/willing to come in illegally are basically economic refugees caused by a combination of US government policy/practice and US company policy/practice
[2020-11-10 18:09:45] <Lucifer_arma> so it's still on us to help these people
[2020-11-10 18:10:34] <Lucifer_arma> and yeah, basic decency means that even countries who aren't involved should step up and help out, but the leaders who are doing the most to cause/exacerbate the problems that generate refugees in the first place are cowardly trying to avoid having to do anything
[2020-11-10 18:11:13] <Lucifer_arma> and I know this isn't just the US, and the EU definitely has a hand in it as well, but there's also Russia, Iran, China, etc.  They do nothing, and nobody says "What?"
[2020-11-10 18:12:35] <Lucifer_arma> it would be really fucking awesome if we all just collectively agreed that we're all the same people and we should take care of our own and we did that.  Failing that, if you follow the blame, you find the people who should be taking in the refugees and helping them out, but aren't, or are trying not to
[2020-11-10 18:13:10] <Lucifer_arma> on a side note, Texas is the first state to hit 1 million covid cases
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