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[2020-08-18 00:01:13] <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: never heard of dispy, but yes
[2020-08-18 00:01:21] <luke-jr> wait, not mining, no
[2020-08-18 00:01:29] <luke-jr> I don't got free electricity
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[2020-08-18 00:44:59] <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr: I'm looking for dispy talk
[2020-08-18 00:45:04] <Lucifer_arma> anybody else here use dispy for anything?
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[2020-08-18 13:01:24] <Z-Man> Lucifer_arma: I don't have a comparison between VS Code and Kate, but here on my not too fresh quadcore, VS Code is going just fine. I use it for practically all editing not specifically C++ or for single files. It simply has superquick navigation around big file trees and editor support for pretty much every language.
[2020-08-18 13:03:12] <Z-Man> Where it failed me was on my Wife's old netbook with a single core, ~1Ghz Atom CPU. It wasn't so much the backend and more the rendering, I think it uses OpenGL for everything. It was usable, but really not a joy. Javascript can be super fast these days.
[2020-08-18 13:03:46] <Z-Man> Err, that was a bit incoherent, splice the last sentence to the chat line above.
[2020-08-18 13:10:09] <Z-Man> Give VS Code a try. The magic keyboard shortcut is CTRL-P. Then start typing the filename you want. It's similar to Kate's filter, you don't even have to start at the filename beginning.
[2020-08-18 13:11:09] <Z-Man> Of course, for C++, QT Creator is even better. That one has magic navigation to C++ symbols on top of that.
[2020-08-18 13:11:52] <Z-Man> My only gripe with QT Creator is that when you stop debugging, it stays in debug layout mode and the debug windows hog your screenspace.
[2020-08-18 13:14:21] <Z-Man> And it doesn't support arbitrarily moving subwindows into real windows to put them on another screen. But the only thing I see supporting that is the regular Visual Studio on Windows.
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[2020-08-18 20:20:05] <Lucifer_arma> Z-Man: I think I'm between you and your wife, then.  I have a 2 core celeron at 1.5Ghz.  Nominally, my raspi 4 is more powerful, but my read is that armv7 is still slower than whatever generation intel I've got
[2020-08-18 20:21:08] <Lucifer_arma> visually, vscode offers the ui I prefer, with the directory tree on the left, code editor on the right top, and a shell on the right bottom
[2020-08-18 20:21:39] <Lucifer_arma> kate has plugins for reading gdb output, but doesn't have any for python tracebacks (or I haven't used it properly, also possible)
[2020-08-18 20:22:20] <Lucifer_arma> kate's development has reached a mature, stable point that also includes not much in the way of new features.  They're not as slow as arma development, but they're getting there.
[2020-08-18 20:22:58] <Lucifer_arma> meanwhile, it looks like vscode is going to continue to get new features and stuff and may displace vs studio, or at least be the open source version like chromium is to chrome
[2020-08-18 20:23:25] <Lucifer_arma> I always liked vs studio.  I didn't use it because I wasn't in windows and I didn't want closed source stuff on my computer anyway
[2020-08-18 20:28:51] <Lucifer_arma> also, I'm looking at moving to a raspi as my primary desktop, which will almost have to include making arma run on the raspi
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[2020-08-18 23:42:54] <Lucifer_arma> that's awesome.  I put a tex-mex sauce recipe here so I could remember it, and now I can't find it :(
[2020-08-18 23:44:40] <Lucifer_arma> hah, luckily I only used it here temporarily.  I copied it into a text file.  :)

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