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Log from 2009-10-25:
--- Day changed Sun Oct 25 2009
00:22 <Vanhayes> .si ons
00:22 <tronner> Vanhayes: Fortress Onslaught: Players (12/12): -»|FoFo, .×] JS, .×] Liza (Liza@forums), ct-eddie, cT¬speed, D3pth~, free kill (dlh@generalconsumption.org), LÔÛÎsÊ-LÎn, madmax (madmax@forums), MaZuffeR, nara, Sya
00:23 <Vanhayes> argh its full
00:23 <akira_arma> hehe
00:23 <akira_arma> pooooooooooor vanhayes
00:24 <Vanhayes>  /admin kick ct-eddie
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00:24 <Vanhayes> i doubt that would work on his own server
00:25 <Vanhayes> why are people freaking out over swine flu? it hasnt even killed as many people as regular flu yet
00:26 <akira_arma> want a comprehensive answer?
00:26 <akira_arma> do you*
00:26 <Vanhayes> now i just want to rant
00:26 <Vanhayes> no*
00:27 <akira_arma> clearly a propganda hoax
00:27 <Vanhayes> im guessing that too
00:27 <akira_arma> with several applications
00:27 <akira_arma> instill fear , maximize profits
00:27 <Vanhayes> how much is a flu shot in the states now?
00:27 <akira_arma> i am guessing 5-10
00:27 <akira_arma> buckas
00:27 <akira_arma> no idea though
00:28 <Vanhayes> sounds about right
00:28 <akira_arma> the major application is to bombard the population with a neverending stream of external issues
00:28 <akira_arma> see war on "terror"
00:28 <Vanhayes> seems to be working for the most part
00:29 <akira_arma> yes
00:29 <akira_arma> to continue the transfer of real waelth and power to the top of the hierarchy
00:29 <akira_arma> I mean the bets examples are those bank "bailouts"
00:30 <akira_arma> I am really astonished that there is no revoltuion
00:30 <akira_arma> but that just shows how docile and fucked up we all are
00:30 <Vanhayes> im not, most people get bombarded with news stories saying how the world might end soon if you dont follow the govt
00:31 <akira_arma> yes you are too
00:31 <akira_arma> we are separated
00:31 <Vanhayes> i meant im not astonished
00:31 <akira_arma> ah
00:31 <akira_arma> yea I am not too :(
00:31 <akira_arma> for the most part
00:31 <Vanhayes> i wouldnt call myself docile more apathetic then anything
00:31 <Vanhayes> comes down to the same thing
00:31 <akira_arma> well the exact word doesn'T amtter
00:32 <akira_arma> yep
00:32 <akira_arma> any real influence over something important is taken away from the individuals
00:33 <akira_arma> but it really doesn'T matter in the long run
00:33 <Vanhayes> the thing is I could go protest it get as many people as I can to do it too, but all that would mean is i wouldn't be working
00:33 <akira_arma> it's just so sad for the existing life on earth
00:33 <akira_arma> protesting doesn't work
00:34 <akira_arma> only thing that would work is to destroy the bases of power of the heirarchy
00:34 <Vanhayes> if enough people did it I imagine it could, but there will never be enough
00:34 <akira_arma> but gl with that :)
00:34 <Vanhayes> ya, thats where the apathy comes in
00:34 <akira_arma> since a major base is the warping of the society
00:34 <akira_arma> but i guess you realize that too
00:35 <akira_arma> if you just talk to "normal" people
00:36 <akira_arma> also you can eb sure they run ehavy simulations of economic and social movements
00:38 <akira_arma> the funny thing is that I get labelled as communisst, conspiracy nut, or wahtever if you talk to others about it
00:38 <akira_arma> when I just speak about the formation and redundancy of the historical evolved hierarchy
00:38 <akira_arma> sad :/
00:39 <Vanhayes> communism and socialism have become very skewed lately
00:39 <akira_arma> actually they are just words
00:47 <cpayan> flu shots are about twenty bucks where I am.
00:50 <akira_arma> :o
00:54 <cpayan> yep
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01:13 <Vanhayes_> argh
01:18 <Vanhayes_> Vanhayes, ping
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01:42  * Lucifer has given up on capitalism.  All it ever seems to do is concentrate most of the wealth and power into the hands of a few.
01:43 <Lucifer> not willing to go to the well-ordered societies run by the government that socialism wants, but otherwise in philosophy I agree with socialism :)
01:44 <Lucifer> let's keep working on this open source thing and see if we can't come up with a more workable alternative to socialism that beats both capitalism and socialism
01:45 <luke-jr> lol
01:46 <cpayan> "free as in beer" as a form of government.
01:46 <cpayan> Alcohocracy
01:47 <Vanhayes_> i can get behind that
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01:48 <akira_arma> lucifer it's WAY too late
01:50 <Lucifer> akira_arma: it's never too late, at least, not until all the nukes have been launched
01:50 <Lucifer> society never changes in massive revolutions
01:50 <Lucifer> at least, not successfully
01:51 <Lucifer> has to be done piecemeal, like it always has
01:51 <Lucifer> organic, not engineered
01:51 <Vanhayes> eeemy plan is to save up enough money so i can go nomad across the world
01:51 <luke-jr> Korea's done some engineered revolutions ;)
01:52 <Lucifer> luke-jr: and they're one of the most poverty-stricken nations in the world (N Korea, at least, and historically all of Korea)
01:52 <Lucifer> planned societies have never lasted longer than a century
01:52 <Lucifer> and they always go back to capitalism when they're over, because capitalism is what you have if you do nothing
01:52 <ct|kyle> if they stop spending our money they won't need as much money and we'll have more money
01:53 <akira_arma> the nukes won't be launched at all
01:53 <Lucifer> what we should be trying to work on is a society tht respects the rights of workers, puts reasonable checks on the power of the elite, and replaces capitalism as a default economic model using no government
01:53 <akira_arma> lol
01:53 <cpayan> Vanhayes, why would you need money to go nomad?
01:53 <akira_arma> the heirarchy does not want to destroy their grazing ground
01:53 <cpayan> well, a lot of money?
01:54 <akira_arma> its
01:54 <Lucifer> cpayan: because "going nomad" is very different than going homeless and begging for change
01:54 <Vanhayes> because without money nomad turns into hobo
01:54 <cpayan> Meh, you don't need to beg for change. There's always something to do somewhere.
01:55  * Lucifer wants to know what happened to his packing tape
01:55 <Lucifer> I know it got packed into a container that didn't need to be taped up
01:56 <cpayan> you packed your packing tape
01:56 <cpayan> :)
01:57 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: do you think the government was bad before the 1900's
01:58 <Lucifer> that was probably when it was the worst
01:58 <Lucifer> I think the US government has actually gotten better since then
01:58 <Lucifer> but quite frankly, I don't have time for this discussion :)
01:58 <Lucifer> I have to dump a bunch of things, pack up what I can take with me to Kansas, and then get on the road tomorrow evening
01:59 <Lucifer> what I can't put in the hands of people who need/want has to go in the trash
01:59 <ct|kyle> Kansas? what for?
02:03 <Vanhayes> him and luke-jr are finally embracing who they are and moving in together?
02:03 <luke-jr> I haven't lived in Kansas for over 4 years
02:04 <Vanhayes> don't fight it
02:14 <ct|kyle> ya luke-jr moved because of a stupid church (what a stupid reason)
02:16 <luke-jr> ct|kyle fails
02:18 <Vanhayes> you moved because of a church?
02:18 <ct|kyle> Vanhayes: it was in his Christmas letter a few years ago
02:18 <Vanhayes> he has a christmas letter?
02:19 <ct|kyle> he did once
02:19 <Vanhayes> that would be quite a read
02:23 <ct|kyle> LOL
02:23 <ct|kyle> he did not send me the video http://dashjr.org/~luke-jr/tmp/Xmas/tmp/
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02:28 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: the letter is http://dashjr.org/letters/Christmas2007.html
02:30 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: Vanhayes wanted that
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02:06 <Lucifer> I just want to remind everybody that sitting in a church doesn't make anybody more religious in much the same way tht sitting in a garage doesn't make anybody a car
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02:10 <Lucifer> actually, if luke-jr (hi there!) is still in Omaha, we might be within roadtrip range of each other
02:10 <Lucifer> maybe I should get a real sword
02:11 <Lucifer> 4 hours, according to google maps
02:25 <Vanhayes> #night
02:25 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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02:28 <cpayan> See, Lucifer, if you'd have just stayed in Texas, you could just keep a gun.
02:36 <Lucifer> but i don't know how to use a gun!
02:36 <Lucifer> I *do* know how to use a sword.
02:36 <Lucifer> big difference
02:36 <luke-jr> ...
02:36 <Lucifer> fight with the weapons you know how to use, that is, if you want to win
02:37 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: should be easy to find him, he'll be the one with this sign in his yard http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/armed-house.jpg
02:38 <luke-jr> good luck getting past my automated armed defense system
02:40 <cpayan> i'm sure guns come with an owner's manual.
02:44 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: so other than going to see luke-jr why are you going to kansas
03:08 <Flex> that's funny.. i guess that household doesn't pay taxes to the government for them to have police do the shooting.
03:11 <Flex> till the day we can figure out how to bring people back from the dead, guns should be illegal..
03:11 <cpayan> no, WEAPONS should be illegal.
03:11 <cpayan> Don't single out guns, if that's your stance.
03:12 <Flex> why? it's not as easy as banning all weapons.. there's a lot of sharp objects in the house to be considered a weapon
03:12 <cpayan> Well if death's your problem, don't single out one way to kill someone.
03:13 <cpayan> It doesn't make any sense.
03:13 <Flex> it does make sense.. you're just trying to argue some sort of logic to it.. not the average joe is an assassin who can murder someone with a blunt object or a kitcken knife..
03:14 <Lucifer> cancer shoudl be illegal, while we're at it
03:14 <Lucifer> and car accidents
03:14 <Flex> anyone can pick up a weapon and pull the trigger. i'd like my chances to at least have a struggle before getting killed.. (not that i live in america and all the house's are high risk robberies)
03:15 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: because I can't stay in austin anymore, so I'm going to go stay with my bro in kansas
03:15 <cpayan> And not every average joe has a gun to go out and go on a killing spree.
03:15 <Lucifer> and banning guns won't make them any harder for criminals to get them anyway
03:15 <cpayan> Lucifer, man, murder should be illegal... :)
03:15 <Lucifer> mind you there've been shooting sprees in Europe, too
03:15 <Lucifer> and there was that guy in Japan that went on a killing spree with knives
03:16 <noob13> :P
03:16 <Lucifer> I agree, don't single out guns for either banning or protection
03:16 <Lucifer> dammit, I want to carry a sword!
03:16 <Lucifer> so, your rifle might be legal, but if you affix a bayonet to it, it's not legal anymore
03:16 <Flex> that kind of reasoning is stupid.. the whole reason of easy gun access is because of the legal side to it..
03:17 <Lucifer> Flex: you've never shopped for anything on the black market, have you?
03:17 <Lucifer> you can get anything, except maybe for Champix
03:17  * Lucifer tried to get Champix that way already
03:17 <Lucifer> and just like pirated music, you don't get any artificial limits
03:17 <Flex> no i haven't and i'm not denying you can get it in the black market in europe too
03:17 <Lucifer> if you buy a machine gun on the black market, it fucking works like a machine gun
03:18 <Lucifer> but if you buy it legally, you have to make illegal modifications to make it work the way it was designed
03:18 <Flex> you're defending gun crime with cancer rates and car accidents..
03:18 <Lucifer> I'm not defending gun crime at all ;)
03:19 <Lucifer> I happen to agree with the reasoning that if one person had a gun at Virginia Tech, the casualties would have been much less
03:19 <Flex> people are nuts.. it doesn't require a gun to kill someone.. nobody is oblvious to that..
03:19 <Flex> here in london.. people get stabbed for looking weird at someone else
03:19 <Lucifer> but I also agree that you don't want a bunch of guns being carried around on campus, legal or illegal
03:19 <Flex> stabbed shot, ect.. it will never end, but the fact that you are not closing a gap in a flow is just not helping
03:19 <Lucifer> see, nobody commits crimes with the guns they legally registered
03:19 <Flex> arguing for it, isn't helping either
03:20 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: ah well good luck in Kansas
03:20 <Lucifer> once you legally register your gun, you *can't* commit a crime with it without getting caught
03:20 <Flex> there's a shooting range.. go sign up and use guns all you like
03:20 <Lucifer> if your gun is used in a crime, you're the first suspect
03:20 <Flex> report it stolen?
03:20 <Lucifer> if you're innocent, you may be liable for letting your gun fall into the wrong hands
03:21 <Lucifer> even if you reported it stolen, you may still be liable for it's use in a crime
03:21 <Flex> if it's stolen?
03:21 <Flex> right
03:21 <Lucifer> owning a gun is a serious responsibility, you have to protect people from accidental firings, and also make sure it can't be stolen :)
03:21 <Lucifer> you can't loan it to anybody, yadayada
03:22 <Lucifer> that's why people who do shady things prefer to own illegal weapons, because there's no legally registered ballistics profile for the gun
03:22 <Flex> you think it's safe to say the masses should be carrying guns?
03:22 <Lucifer> no, I think the masses should be carrying swords
03:22 <Lucifer> or rather, I should be carrying a sword
03:22 <ct|kyle> so the classmate of mine that got shot and killed by his own gun is liable
03:22 <Lucifer> I'm fast enough with it that I'm willing to bet dollars to grape fruits that I can defeat 99% of gun-toting criminals with a sword
03:23 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: yep, but it's hard to sue him for it if he's dead
03:23 <Flex> and it's not that hard customize a legal gun to a unrecognizable one.. i pressume
03:23 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: actually, it still depends on the situation
03:23 <Lucifer> if your wife steals your gun and passes it to her lover to kill someone with it, you might be able to get out of it (but she won't)
03:23 <ct|kyle> actually it may not have been his gun
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03:23 <Lucifer> and in lots of states, it's not a criminal liability, so you won't do jail time over it
03:24 <Lucifer> you can just be sued by the victims' family
03:24 <Lucifer> well, I need to go get my smoker still
03:24 <Flex> guns kill = should be banned.. it's purely a killing tool.. unlike a WEAPON that can be a kitchen knife used to cut meat or other shit
03:24 <ct|kyle> he took it with him to his buddied and they were playing with arosol guns and then his buddies got real guns and then they shot him
03:24 <Flex> cpayan does that make more sense to you?
03:24 <Lucifer> was it accidental?
03:24 <Lucifer> Flex: we're all made out of meat and bone
03:24 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: ya
03:25 <cpayan> Flex, what do you think of bows and arrows, axes, clubs, baseball bats, machetes, that are used a lot in crimes
03:25 <cpayan> switchblades, as well.
03:25 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: different situation, then.
03:25 <Lucifer> they were just acting like dumb kids ;)
03:25 <Flex> well they're used for sports..
03:25 <Flex> someone can kill anyone with a damn brick
03:25 <Lucifer> oh sure, if letting an animal out of a cage ad then shooting him is to be considered a sport
03:26 <ct|kyle> ya, he would't have been who I thought would be the first person to be killed in my class
03:26 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: accidental shootings are one of the things gun laws try to address
03:26 <Lucifer> and usually fail, or succeed at the loss of other rights people should keep
03:26 <cpayan> Flex, guns are used for sport as well
03:26 <cpayan> shooting things.
03:27 <Lucifer> skeet shooting's an olympic sport
03:27 <cpayan> that thing they do in the winter olympics when they ski around and shoot things
03:27 <Lucifer> it's usually won by a redneck from America
03:27 <Flex> don't you need a license to be using guns for a sport?
03:27 <cpayan> you need a license to get a gun.
03:27 <Lucifer> yes, your gun has to be licensed and registered, and you need a hunting license if that's the kind of sport you do
03:27 <cpayan> at least in the US
03:27 <Lucifer> in most states there's a waiting period, even
03:27 <Flex> i don't know how the laws work in US, but in the UK.. you can't walk around in public with bows axes clubs baseball bats machetes ect ect
03:27 <cpayan> not Georgia. Scary place, that.
03:27 <Lucifer> to prevent jealous wives from going and buying a gun and then shooting their husbands
03:27 <Flex> anysort of blade or knife
03:28 <Flex> you will get arrested.. and they ahve the right to charge you
03:28 <cpayan> Lucifer, now they need to wait three days!
03:28 <Lucifer> you can in America provided certain conditions are met
03:28 <Flex> is it not like that in america?
03:28 <Lucifer> one: if it's an actual weapon, it must be secured and hard to use (i.e. if it's in your car, it should be in the trunk)
03:28 <cpayan> Well baseball bats are hardly controlled.
03:28 <Lucifer> two: you should be traveling to a place where you'll be using it legally
03:28 <cpayan> neither are machetes.
03:28 <Lucifer> three: there should be context
03:28 <cpayan> yea
03:28 <cpayan> that last one
03:28 <Lucifer> machetes are illegal, they're too long
03:29 <Flex> exactly... so it's still controlled by law
03:29 <Flex> to a limit to protect poeple
03:29 <Lucifer> but if you're walkin around downtown with a baseball bat at midnight, you're carrying an illegal weapon
03:29 <Lucifer> if you're walking to a park wearing baseball attire, carrying a bag full of baseball supplies that includes several bats, you're fine
03:29 <Flex> the police can't be everywhere every second.. but the fact that it's still illegal
03:29 <Lucifer> 5.5 inches is the longest blade you can legally carry in Austin
03:29 <Flex> so cpayan, your point doesn't work it totally true
03:30 <Lucifer> but if you're carrying it to a place where you will use it legally, and you're carrying it in such a way that it's not easy to use in a hurry, you're fine
03:30 <Lucifer> I carry a 54 inch stick for martial arts, and as long as I'm taking it some place to train, I'm perfectly fine to carry it
03:30 <Lucifer> but the context has to be there
03:30 <ct|kyle> wow only 3 inch blade in indiana
03:30 <Lucifer> it really does
03:31 <Flex> right, Lucifer
03:31 <Lucifer> I can carry my fire staff downtown in the middle of the night and I'm fine
03:31 <Lucifer> even though I don't have the permits I need to perform with it
03:31 <Lucifer> my fire staff is based on a martial arts weapon :)
03:31 <cpayan> More like as not, without some probable cause, you wouldn't get stopped if you have any of these things.
03:31 <Flex> and if a dodgy guy who is suspected to be a criminal, won't be able to get away if caught walking around with any of those things
03:31 <Flex> cpayan, being suspected is enough for it to be taken away
03:31 <Lucifer> well, carrying a baseball bat on 6th street at midnight is probably cause
03:32 <cpayan> Meh. Not in Miami. Cubans.
03:32 <cpayan> they play the baseball.
03:32 <Lucifer> plenty of baseball here, but 6th street is a bar/live music district, and there are no nearby lit parks
03:32 <Lucifer> the same person carrying near baseball fields that are lit up at the same time of night is perfectly fine
03:32 <Lucifer> unless he's black, this is Texas after all
03:33 <Flex> all i know is the masses are not to be trusted with something that can potentially kill someone with one simple pressure to the trigger..
03:33 <ct|kyle> I find all the rules for carring stuff at schools,
03:34 <ct|kyle> I mean you could kill someone with some sharp pencils
03:34 <Flex> you can kill someone by pushing them over
03:34 <cpayan> the masses?
03:34 <Flex> shit happens
03:34 <cpayan> man, that's pretentious.
03:34 <ct|kyle> you could kill someone with a packed book bag
03:35 <Flex> cpayan, that's why our world is fucked.. i think i have a right to be pretentious to those people
03:36 <cpayan> because what. You're a higher class of person? You put both pant legs on at once?
03:39 <Lucifer> I wear bikini-style briefs, that makes me a higher class of person
03:39 <Lucifer> bbiab
03:44 <Flex> what are we arguing about here? there's a right answer and an incorrect answer and the truth exists, if the choices people make as a common value are incorrect.. it's the truth that they're wrong, who's talking about classes?
03:44 <Flex> history shows i don't need to give a fuck.. doesn't necessarily make me think i'm higher class
03:45 <Flex> i'm talking about believing in logic not what the masses believe to be correct..
03:46 <cpayan> No, you're talking about taking rights away from the masses because they need to be paternally taken care of. This smacks of separating yourself and yours from the "lower classes."
03:46 <akira_arma> yet you drop logic when it comes to "political" themes
03:47 <akira_arma> calling me conspiracy nut
03:47 <Flex> akira_arma, some stuff you talked about was just too far fetched
03:47 <akira_arma> far fetched?
03:47 <akira_arma> lol
03:47 <Flex> evidence slim and facts lacking
03:47 <akira_arma> sure we have no heirarchy
03:47 <cpayan> That reminds me, my favorite thing this week
03:48 <cpayan> "HELM'S DEEP WAS AN INSIDE JOB, WAKE UP SHEEPLE"
03:48 <akira_arma> and sure 911 was bin laden and the 18 thugs
03:48 <cpayan> oh conspiracy theorists in lotr would have made it marginally better.
03:48 <akira_arma> the thing is I am nto talkign about a conspiracy at all I am talking about the existing hierarchy
03:48 <Flex> akira_arma, lets just blame the fact that these minons made it possible for the truth to be lost forever..
03:49 <Flex> so we will never know
03:49 <akira_arma> umm
03:49 <akira_arma> i dont need to know the exact names
03:49 <akira_arma> but when i see a controlled demolition I usually name it as such
03:49 <akira_arma> without any need of doublethink
03:49 <Flex> the masses i speak of.. that work to help powerful people ontop is the whole fucking shit i'm talking about..
03:50 <Flex> now i'm the person making classes up, because i don't like people that care about their income rather than making the world a better place
03:51 <Flex> lets not get 911 involved.. believe what you like akira.. i'm not saying it's false or true.. i have my own opinion
03:51 <Flex> lol
03:51 <akira_arma> umm
03:52 <akira_arma> the problem is that this is an iconic example for the propagnda
03:52 <akira_arma> and that singular event lead to the death of millions pof people
03:52 <akira_arma> in afghnaistan and iraq
03:53 <Flex> lets not blame key people.. lets blame the masses for letting that happen
03:53 <akira_arma> at least it was a major factor in the reasoning for the whole preemptive war prop
03:53 <akira_arma> yea sure
03:53 <akira_arma> too afraid to name people?
03:55 <Flex> no.. i just believe the masses were the cause. how do you let one man control 1million men? because the 1man was more intellegent than the other million, actually not even more intellegent, probably he was in the averange of intellgence within the million, but the fact that the masses control the picture probably disallowed the good to stop the bad..
03:56 <Flex> just an example, not really any specific event or moment that i'm talking about^
03:56 <Flex> but probably similar
03:57 <Flex> i think you guys were talking about socialism earler.. someone said something about only way to get to it or find a better social system is time.. which is imo totally true
04:03 <akira_arma> it isnt only 1 man
04:03 <akira_arma> the heirarchy is etched into our mind
04:03 <akira_arma> but nvm
04:03 <akira_arma> we can discuss this later
04:04 <Flex> na i'm not specifically saying it's one man, just trying to explain how the structure is working, imo
04:04 <akira_arma> umm
04:04 <akira_arma> to udnerstand it you have to look at historical processes
04:05 <akira_arma> and psychological processes
04:05 <akira_arma> its actually not that hard to see whats going on here
04:12 <Flex> gn
04:12 <Flex> another time
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04:23 <Lucifer> the trade center collapses weren't controlled demolitions
04:23 <Lucifer> if they were, they'd have gone a lot more smoothly :)
04:32 <akira_arma> yes sure
04:32 <akira_arma> yea*
04:32 <akira_arma> lol
04:32 <akira_arma> o well why do i even argue :/
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04:54 <Lucifer> BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW ANY PHYSICS!
04:54 <Lucifer> :)
04:54 <Lucifer> oh, he left already
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07:35 <P4> http://w827.wrzuta.pl/audio/1bkUXW3i8jZ/skambomambo_black_molly podoba sie? :)
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14:37 <Vanhayes> .as
14:37 <tronner> Vanhayes: This data is 58 seconds old; The YELLOW Submarine (12/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (Europe) (8/10), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (7/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (7/14), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (5/12), Wild West  =High Rubber= (4/16), WILDCAT (4/8), -  [ Nano's Playground | Nano Standard ]  -         . (2/8), >>> FAST TRACK DEATH WALLS (NO RIMING)<<< (2/12), Fortress Café (2/32), ~Wild (1 more message)
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17:14 <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r943 You can now use indentation in config files and strings intu...
17:28 <Flex> #ls akira
17:28 <Flex> .ls akira
17:28 <tronner> Flex: akira has last been seen on Fortress Onslaught 21 hours 9 minutes ago.
17:28 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9283 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (4 files in 2 dirs): epsy: You can now use indentation in config files and strings intuitively.
17:28 <armabot> Flex: timed out
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17:37 <dlh> .ls free kill
17:37 <tronner> dlh: free kill has last been seen on ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate\'s Mega Fortress 46 minutes ago.
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18:14 <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r944 Whoops, typo....
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19:05 <Flex> .ls akira
19:05 <tronner> Flex: akira has last been seen on Fortress Onslaught 22 hours 47 minutes ago.
19:14 <Flex> z-man-work they need an admin in your fpl server, nobody seems to be team leader
19:52 <sinewave> well that was fucked.
19:52 <sinewave> no one with team leader status.
19:54 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9284 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/tools/tConfiguration.cpp): epsy: Whoops, typo.
20:08 <\u03b5> try /callvote referee <player> if the server is trunk
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20:39 <sinewave> \u03b5 : oh, that would have been a good idea. too bad I didn't think of it in time. thanks! I'll try to remember next time.
20:39 <\u03b5> but voting is a bit fuxxored on trunk for some reason I don't get
20:41 <sinewave> yeah, voting in fort onslaught is terrible. just terrible.
20:41 <sinewave> needs to be finxed soon.
20:41 <sinewave> trolls come back faster than you can kick them.
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20:52 <\u03b5> nah, voting itself
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23:29 <Vanhayes_> .as
23:30 <tronner> Vanhayes_: This data is 279 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (12/14), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), ID Clan -=}< OPEN SuMo (9/12), [] Cheers! [] Clan War In Progress (9/12), The YELLOW Submarine (9/12), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (8/10), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (8/12), Swampland Mud Puddle (7/8), Wild West  =High Rubber= (6/16), ~Wild Night~Loose~ (6/8), .Ã] Twi¦Ã¦ted ¦Ã¦ats Fortress (EU) [Ã. (1 more message)
23:35 <Vanhayes_> #ping
23:35 <armabot> pong
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