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Log from 2009-10-04:
--- Day changed Sun Oct 04 2009
00:00 <ct|kyle> evaldusia: LOL
00:00 <evaldusia> i'm so weakened
00:00 <evaldusia> lol
00:00 <evaldusia> head hurts tii
00:00 <evaldusia> too
00:00 <evaldusia> lol
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09:20 <Vanhayes_> wtf I am swedish now?
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18:25 <evaldusia> is there a big map with like 4 1vs1 zones seperated by rims
18:29 <Vanhayes_> evaldusia, there might be but since the repository is down it would be hard to find/use
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18:30 <Vanhayes_> i think there is one in the flower power sumo on th CT repository though, it is a ct+sty map but if you don't use the respawning it should work as a normal sumo one i think
18:31 <Vanhayes_> is there a ladle today?
18:33 <madmax> yeah
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18:41 <madmax> can someone enlighten me on what exactly people mean by "dogfight" servers?
18:44 <MaZuffeR> i would like to know too
18:46 <Vanhayes_> i think it means that you just squiggle at each other trying to make as little contact as possible while still trying to kill
18:47 <Vanhayes_> anyways people usually yell and try to kick me when i just tried to kill them normally in most "dogfight" servers
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18:56 <evaldusia> Vanhayes_ they're not 1vs1 sumo zones
18:56 <Vanhayes_> hmm i forgot about that
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19:19 <madmax> looks like there's a relevant post about DF: http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=205216#p205216
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19:41 <Flex> .ls akira
19:41 <tronner> Flex: akira has last been seen on Swampland Mud Puddle 14 hours 3 minutes ago.
19:41 <Flex> .lastseen akira
19:41 <tronner> Flex: akira has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Open Sumo 1 day 2 hours 33 minutes ago.
19:41 <Flex> .lastseen akira_arma
19:41 <tronner> Flex: timed out
19:42 <madmax> .help ls
19:42 <tronner> madmax: (ls <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "reply [sc [fetch [concat http://78.46.226.238:7899/grid/lastseen.php?player= [urlquote $*]]]]".
19:42 <madmax> .help lastseen
19:42 <tronner> madmax: (lastseen <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/lastseen.php?player=@1+@2+@3+@4+@5+@6+@7+@8+@9".
19:43 <Flex> how do you lastseen on irc
19:45 <madmax> .seen akira_arma
19:45 <tronner> madmax: akira_arma was last seen in #armagetron 1 day, 6 hours, 19 minutes, and 2 seconds ago: <akira_arma> haha Tx vs arrow in the first round ;)
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19:49 <akira_arma> :(
19:51 <madmax> akira reads our thoughts :o
19:53 <akira_arma> ?
19:55 <madmax> Flex was just .lastseen'ing you :P
19:56 <akira_arma> yea ladle
19:56 <akira_arma> I "almost" didnt make it
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20:02 <akira_arma> max are you watching arrow vs tx?
20:02 <madmax> no
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20:25 <sunnygirl> who won tx or arrow?
20:29 <\u03b5> who won the ladle?
20:29 <pikey> me
20:29 <pikey> :P
20:30 <sunnygirl> haha epsy
20:31 <zmanuel> Can you guys ping me when a match to record is about to start? I don't want to phase in and out of servers too much.
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21:10 <Flex> ct|kyle are you here?
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21:10 <Flex> z-man are you admin in ct 3? can you max client to 32 or something
21:13 <Flex> any ct here?
21:15 <zmanuel> Flex: sorry, no.
21:15 <zmanuel> And I couldn't log in ayway :)
21:15 <zmanuel> ct3 seems to have a high max client setting, only ct1 is packed.
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21:17 <zmanuel> Oh wait, mixed ct3 and ct1 up there.
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22:44 <Obsi> Anyone know the reason behind PLAYER_GRIDPOS being limited to 1 update per second?
22:57 <zmanuel> you mean the cycle position syncs? They aren't. You can tune them with CYCLE_SYNC_INTERVAL_ENEMY.
23:00 <Flex> z-man, while you're here
23:00 <Flex> [13:07:36] <Flex> not sure if this is a real bug or something i'm creating... not sure how to explain it either, but "max_speed" doesn't seem to work on 0.3_alpha8870 my cockpit has it and with 0.3.0 you can see the "max_speed" but 0.3_alpha8870 it's just blank. has it been removed, but still active on old clients?
23:00 <Flex> i think this might be wrtlprnft's thing, but he seems to be away always
23:01 <Flex> it's the maximum speed set on a server, i think
23:01 <zmanuel> Dunno about the HUD, really. Does it work ingame?
23:02 <Flex> urm i'm using 0.3.0 (your build)
23:03 <zmanuel> I built it, but I didn't write anything about the HUD :)
23:03 <Flex> but on the latest alpha it doesn't work, the cockpit works fine.. just the "max_speed" isn't showing up
23:03 <zmanuel> I didn't even know it can display max_speed :)
23:03 <Flex> i know, but what is this.. a bug or something to do with the dtd
23:03 <zmanuel> I honestly don't know.
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23:08 <Obsi> Was talking about output to ladderlog, might only be in sty+ct it didn't obey GRID_POSITION_INTERVAL if set below 1
23:11 <Flex> zmanuel, ok then i'll figure it out sooner or later. hopefully.
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23:27 <ct|kyle> Flex: ping
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23:34 <ct|kyle> Flex: little late but it should be fixed now
23:46 <Flex> nice
23:46 <Flex> SP won the ladle :D
23:47 <Flex> we beat ct ct|kyle :P
23:49 <ct|kyle> Flex: your server you must have cheated :P
23:49 <Flex> mayyyybe
23:49 <Flex> lol..
23:49 <ct|kyle> anyway I gtg, I'm a little high on so alcohol fumes
23:49 <Flex> CT 3 was set at 16 slots, need to be at least 25
23:49 <Flex> kk, cu
23:50 <ct|kyle> my head is a bit dizzy
23:50 <Flex> gn from me, though
23:50 <ct|kyle> Flex: that was my fault I must have taken out the max_clients setting
23:50 <ct|kyle> you should have tried pining joda_bot or P4
23:51 <ct|kyle> anyway I'm outta here for a bit
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23:56 <akira_arma> umm
23:56 <akira_arma> what was the playback command :)
23:56 <akira_arma> memory loss
23:57 <akira_arma> nvm

Log from 2009-10-05:
--- Day changed Mon Oct 05 2009
00:16 <ct|kyle> akira_arma: you can always --help :P
00:16 <akira_arma> indeed
00:19 <ct|kyle> .m Flex I forgot to say congrats :) so congrats :P
00:19 <tronner> ct|kyle: The operation succeeded.
00:19 <madmax> who did tx lost to?
00:19 <ct|kyle> Arrow
00:20 <ct|kyle> according to challenge board
00:20 <madmax> er, *lose
00:21 <ct|kyle> I mad I forgot to set MAX_CLIENTS in the USA server
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00:26 <Obsi> kyle, should I post a patch for the PLAYER_GRIDPOS issue, or was it intended to never write to ladderlog more than once per second?
00:27 <ct|kyle> Obsi: I'm not sure, pastebin the patch (for 30 days)  and I'll have a look at it
00:27 <Obsi> kk
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00:32 <ct|kyle> Obsi: and I hope you say that I fixed the other problem
00:32 <ct|kyle> saw*
00:33 <Obsi> coolness, haven't had a look at fresh sources yet, been digging around in these trying to extend my FZP server
00:34 <ct|kyle> ah, and thanks for reporting those, sometimes I just overlook a few things
00:36 <Obsi> you're welcome.. I know the feeling all to well, sometimes I feel I only code by trial and error alone  :-D
00:37 <ct|kyle> Obsi: ya :P
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23:10 <sinewav>  ct|kyle: yo, how many members does CT have at the moment?
23:11 <sinewav> ct|kyle: oh, nvm.
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23:44 <wrtlprnft> #ping
23:45 <armabot> pong
23:45 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: doesn't matter, it was just temporary files and a couple of config files
23:45 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: confirmed (why does ljrbot deliver messages one by one?)
23:46 <wrtlprnft> phew, that was the last one it seems :-)
23:53 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: ?!
23:54 <luke-jr> you JUST got those?
23:54 <luke-jr> why are you missing for months?
23:54 <wrtlprnft> heh
23:55 <wrtlprnft> got hung up with other stuff and didn't really have the time to hang around IRC
23:55 <wrtlprnft> i did read about hachi being retired, though, so i'd have backed my stuff up if there was any
23:56 <luke-jr> well, wb :p
23:57 <ct|kyle> oi wrtlprnft :)
23:57 <ct|kyle> armabot: welcome back :)

Log from 2009-10-06:
--- Day changed Tue Oct 06 2009
00:00 <wrtlprnft> thanks
00:00 <wrtlprnft> i just replaced the server that hosts armabot, the server list (is that one still used?), and some other crap
00:00 <wrtlprnft> 4GB should be plenty to satisfy supybot's memory leaks
00:01 <PinkTomato> is it that bad?!
00:02 <wrtlprnft> well, the old one had less than 400MiB of RAM
00:02 <wrtlprnft> so if forgot to restart armabot for about a week it basically killed the server
00:03 <wrtlprnft> (that's why I stopped starting her after booting, it was just too annoying)
00:04 <ct|kyle> #quote get 69
00:04 <armabot> ct|kyle: Quote #69: "gentoo ebuild is as broken as luke-jr himself :D ~xfroggy" (added by ct|kyle at 06:23 PM, January 26, 2008)
00:04 <ct|kyle> oh good you kedt the data :)
00:04 <ct|kyle> kept*
00:06 <wrtlprnft> no point deleting the data, the one thing the old server had plenty of was harddisks
00:07 <ct|kyle> well I was missing armabot to add a quote :P so...
00:07 <ct|kyle> #quote add Van-hayes: Everyone knows your  post count is directly proportionate to your dick size.
00:07 <armabot> ct|kyle: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
00:13 <PinkTomato> Armabot uses Megabytes of Ram o.O
00:14 <wrtlprnft> well, megabytes are nothing
00:14 <wrtlprnft> it usually gets problematic around 1.5GiB when it filled up most of the swap space :-P
00:15 <PinkTomato> That is some leak!
00:18 <wrtlprnft> i mean, it's supposed to keep some logs for #last, but i can't imagine that to be the reason
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00:19 <ct|kyle> coulden't you just put her into a @daily or @weekly crontab restart script
00:20 <wrtlprnft> possibly, but that's not a real reason ;-/
00:20 <wrtlprnft> *real solution
00:20 <PinkTomato> Wouldn't that make IRC moan about names as well?
00:21 <wrtlprnft> supybot kicks users that block its name
00:21 <PinkTomato> does that work if the name is already identified?
00:21 <wrtlprnft> i could write a cronjob that starts another supybot with the sole purpose of sending supybot a #quit command
00:21 <wrtlprnft> yes, of course
00:21 <PinkTomato> I've never done it :)
00:22 <wrtlprnft> give me your nickserv password and i'll show you
00:22 <PinkTomato> haha ;)
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06:32 <\u03b5> the more I stay on facebook the more I realize it's worst feature is applications
06:33 <luke-jr> lol
06:33 <luke-jr> Facebook is horribly written
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07:09 <\u03b5> bbl
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10:08 <evaldusia> oh
10:09 <evaldusia> i need an access to repository
10:09 <evaldusia> lol
10:09 <evaldusia> **
10:09 <evaldusia> resource rep
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14:37 <ct|kyle> guru3: master1 seams to be down (for several hours)
14:39 <guru3> yeah... it sort of died
14:39 <ct|kyle> just wanted to make sure you knew :)
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16:16 <wrtlprnft> by the way, the master at wrtlprnft.ath.cx (formerly master3) is running again, just in case it's needed
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16:50 <madmax> wb wrtlprnft
16:53 <madmax> Sent 11 weeks, 0 days, 22 hours, and 13 minutes ago: <Vanhayes> I guess you won the bet <---- I had forgotten how right I got that one :D
16:56 <evaldusia> wrtlprnft
16:56 <evaldusia> could i run my own serv as master?
16:56 <evaldusia> lol
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20:45 <sinewav> .as
20:45 <tronner> sinewav: This data is 61 seconds old; SpeedeRs (Fortress) (12/32), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (10/12), The YELLOW Submarine (7/12), ..D.o.g.F.i.g.h.t.. (5/8), [] Cheers! reloaded [] (5/12), |FA| Black Tar! (4/16), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (4/12), OBSI'S-->-=FRIENDLYZONEPLS=-<--OBSI'S (3/10), -||BS| Broken Silence ~Rozy's Sumo (3/16), -=F²=- Fatal Force Loose DF Server (1 more message)
20:45 <sinewav> .sd speeders
20:45 <tronner> sinewav: SpeedeRs (Fortress): Players (12/32): -»|FoFo, -»|hoop (hoop@forums), -»|slash, Craiiig David, ctt_wap, CT_emphasis (emphasis@ct/leader), Longball|mbc, Monnkey.D.Luffy, Sandglass, Sp.Rakim, ~*akira*~ (akira@forums), ~*Delta*~ (~*Delta*~@ct/public)
20:47 <ct|kyle> oi sinewav
20:49 <sinewav> ct|kyle: oi
20:50 <sinewav> I can't connect to the master server for some reason...
20:50 <sinewav> oh, now it works.
20:51 <ct|kyle> master1 is down
20:55 <\u03b5> ah i can check now
20:56 <\u03b5> masters 1, 4 and 5 don't respond
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21:26 <ct|kyle> 4's down too?
21:27 <ct|kyle> \u03b5: only 1 and 3 here
21:27 <ct|kyle> and 5
21:27 <ct|kyle> err no 5 works
21:29 <\u03b5> idk, pygamequery just hangs on it
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21:35 <Vanhayes__> .as
21:35 <tronner> Vanhayes__: This data is 85 seconds old; SpeedeRs (Fortress) (15/32), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (12/12), The YELLOW Submarine (11/12), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (9/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (7/10), ~Wild Night~Loose~ (6/8), |FA| Black Tar! (5/16), Swampland Mud Puddle (5/8), ID Clan -=}< DoG FighT XP (4/16), OBSI'S-->-=FRIENDLYZONEPLS=-<--OBSI'S (3/10), WILDCAT (3/8), =Volume Zero= High Rubber (1 more message)
21:37 <Vanhayes__> does anyone know if the sever owner can see the authenticattion info when someone logs into their server?
21:37 <ct|kyle> Vanhayes__: like?
21:38 <Vanhayes__> say i log in using auth in a server does it show up somewhere for the owner to see my password?
21:39 <ct|kyle> no
21:39 <Vanhayes__> ah ok then, just being paranoid then
21:40 <ct|kyle> they could technically see the hash I think (not positive there)
21:45 <\u03b5> no, the server can't see the password, nor can the authority
21:45 <\u03b5> it is hashed on the client
21:45 <\u03b5> not encrypted, hashed
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23:06 <madmax> #as
23:07 <armabot> madmax: This data is 12 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (12/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (8/10), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (8/14), The YELLOW Submarine (7/12), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (7/12), ~Wild Night~Loose~ (6/8), Norm's Home - The Fun Server (6/12), ID Clan -=}< DoG FighT XP (5/16), Wild West  =High Rubber= (4/16), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (3/16), |FA| (1 more message)
23:44 <noob13> .sd fort
23:44 <tronner> noob13: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: Players (5/14): Cyanide, niro, Perdio, Sandglass
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23:52 <PinkTomato> #as
23:52 <armabot> PinkTomato: This data is 76 seconds old; The YELLOW Submarine (12/12), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (10/12), -=F²=- Fatal Force Loose DF Server (9/12), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (9/12), Wild West  =High Rubber= (7/16), ~Wild Night~ (7/10), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (6/10), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (6/14), Swampland Mud Puddle (5/8), ~Wild Night~Loose~ (3/8), ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's (1 more message)
23:52 <PinkTomato> .sd sumo
23:52 <tronner> PinkTomato: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo: Players (10/12): -»|þsy, -»|FoFo, -»|viper, §uper§pindle, moth, play, Player 1, PrèténÐêr, Toxic, Womble

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01:28 <Lucifer> bored
01:28 <Lucifer> someone entertain me!
01:29 <Lucifer> holy shit, armabot's back
01:29 <Lucifer> #q
01:29 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #76: "<Lucifer> vista doesn't have the kind of boobs that KDE has" (added by ivantis at 05:54 AM, July 31, 2008)
01:29 <Lucifer> #q
01:29 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #89: "<ct|kyle>: smoothice: you can with zones v3" (added by epsy at 12:19 AM, February 15, 2009)
01:29 <Lucifer> #q
01:29 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #20: "ok luci, you'd know better on this one -- luke-jr" (added by wrtlprnft at 02:26 PM, August 24, 2006)
01:29 <Lucifer> #q
01:29 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #76: "<Lucifer> vista doesn't have the kind of boobs that KDE has" (added by ivantis at 05:54 AM, July 31, 2008)
01:29 <Lucifer> #q
01:29 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #31: "<Fonkay> #eliza you are stupid <armabot> Fonkay: Why do you say i are stupid?" (added by Vanhayes at 01:05 AM, November 02, 2006)
01:29 <Lucifer> #q
01:29 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #4: "left vertical bar is brakes, right one is an early-90s roleplaying game made by White Wolf before they went all Magic: The Gathering happy -- armabot (markov)" (added by a user that is no longer registered at 06:24 AM, March 27, 2006)
01:29 <Lucifer> #q
01:29 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #33: "that wasn't a war, that was you losing units trying to attack one city...then mom joined in with howtizers-spidey" (added by spidey at 04:07 AM, November 07, 2006)
01:30 <Lucifer> #q
01:30 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #31: "<Fonkay> #eliza you are stupid <armabot> Fonkay: Why do you say i are stupid?" (added by Vanhayes at 01:05 AM, November 02, 2006)
01:30 <Lucifer> #q
01:30 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #54: "<Lucifer_arma> nah, he disappeared. I think God is dead." (added by GodTodd at 05:48 PM, August 10, 2007)
01:30 <Lucifer> #q
01:30 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #85: "i spelled sumthing wrong -nsh22" (added by Lucifer_arma at 01:06 AM, January 07, 2009)
01:30 <Lucifer> #q
01:30 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #83: "<Lizmatic> wtfzomg ady-lucifer and lucifer aren't the same guys?! !!!?!"" (added by Lucifer_arma at 10:57 PM, December 16, 2008)
01:30 <Lucifer> #q
01:30 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #85: "i spelled sumthing wrong -nsh22" (added by Lucifer_arma at 01:06 AM, January 07, 2009)
01:30 <Lucifer> #q
01:30 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #82: "<TaZ> Ady-Lucifer: Nah, you're nicer than lucifer though" (added by K-Yo at 04:46 PM, December 13, 2008)
01:30 <Lucifer> #q
01:30 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #58: "luke, your so cute when you think you are right about some crazy position. - philippeqc2" (added by GodTodd at 03:34 AM, August 13, 2007)
01:30 <Lucifer> #q
01:30 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #92: "<Lucifer> Vanhayes: you're somewheres around 18 now, right? <Vanhayes> not on this computer" (added by Luke-Jr at 03:00 AM, March 17, 2009)
01:31 <Lucifer> #q
01:31 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #54: "<Lucifer_arma> nah, he disappeared. I think God is dead." (added by GodTodd at 05:48 PM, August 10, 2007)
01:31 <Lucifer> #q
01:31 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #85: "i spelled sumthing wrong -nsh22" (added by Lucifer_arma at 01:06 AM, January 07, 2009)
01:31 <Lucifer> #q
01:31 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #5: "first the spoon, then the ladle, then the bowl, then the bowl, then the makefiles have a Ni! -- Armabot" (added by Lucifer_arma at 09:41 AM, March 27, 2006)
01:31 <Lucifer> #q
01:31 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #95: "[michael jackson] will be with us forever.. as he is made of non biodegradable plastic --Flex" (added by madmax|pt at 01:50 AM, June 26, 2009)
01:31 <Lucifer> #q
01:31 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #73: "<Lucifer> if you don't want to nitpick, don't talk to luke-jr (hi there!)" (added by epsy at 12:52 AM, July 28, 2008)
01:31 <Lucifer> #q
01:31 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #39: "spidey sucks cow dick?" (added by Vanhayes at 01:47 AM, December 13, 2006)
01:31 <Lucifer> #q
01:31 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #19: "If we were wolves and we snuck into China, they'd try to eat us, but we'd eat them. --Lucifer's Son" (added by Lucifer_arma at 11:36 PM, July 05, 2006)
01:31 <Lucifer> #q
01:31 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #23: "<spidey> you wanna fuck Luke-Jr ?" (added by Vanhayes at 01:40 AM, October 15, 2006)
01:31 <Lucifer> #q
01:31 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #13: "<hang3r> How many microbuscity's does it take to change a light bulb?" (added by hang3r at 07:41 AM, March 31, 2006)
01:31 <Lucifer> #q
01:31 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #29: "It was like playing a game with a ping of 3000. -- John Carmack, Founder, Armadillo Aerospace" (added by GodTodd at 05:34 AM, October 29, 2006)
01:32 <Lucifer> #q
01:32 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #87: "<BabyBug> the thought of rabbit teeth near my clit is in no way sexy" (added by Lucifer_arma at 04:58 AM, January 18, 2009)
01:32 <Lucifer> #quote get 88
01:32 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #88: "Flex: you start your grind at the zone, by the time you get to the split it's weak, not to mention the guy is burning the same rubber.." (added by madmax at 01:15 AM, January 31, 2009)
01:32 <Lucifer> #quote get 89
01:32 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #89: "<ct|kyle>: smoothice: you can with zones v3" (added by epsy at 12:19 AM, February 15, 2009)
01:32 <Lucifer> #quote get 90
01:32 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #90: "WoW is the game of satanists! -- BabyBug" (added by Pathetique at 03:24 PM, March 04, 2009)
01:32 <Lucifer> #quote get 91
01:32 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #91: "[19:09:13] <smoothice> I disagree with my statement" (added by Luke-Jr at 01:09 AM, March 14, 2009)
01:32 <Lucifer> #quote get 92
01:32 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #92: "<Lucifer> Vanhayes: you're somewheres around 18 now, right? <Vanhayes> not on this computer" (added by Luke-Jr at 03:00 AM, March 17, 2009)
01:32 <Lucifer> #quote get 93
01:32 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #93: "<Lucifer> Never, ever, jack yourself off using the same hand that held the jalapenos you cut up for dinner" (added by Vanhayes at 09:17 PM, June 17, 2009)
01:33 <Lucifer> ow
01:33 <Lucifer> #quote get 94
01:33 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #94: "http://www.zshare.net/audio/6175689297122c6f/ <madmax>this is a remix of what? <Vanhayes> dubStep's cyber sex tape" (added by Vanhayes at 01:49 AM, June 25, 2009)
01:33 <Lucifer> #quote get 95
01:33 <armabot> Lucifer: Quote #95: "[michael jackson] will be with us forever.. as he is made of non biodegradable plastic --Flex" (added by madmax|pt at 01:50 AM, June 26, 2009)
01:33 <Lucifer> #quote get 96
01:33 <armabot> Lucifer: Error: There is no Quote with id #96 in my database for #armagetron.
01:33 <Lucifer> #quote get 97
01:33 <armabot> Lucifer: Error: There is no Quote with id #97 in my database for #armagetron.
01:33 <Lucifer> I guess we're only up to 95 now
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03:37 <ct|kyle> lol Lucifer, you should have started on 0.3.1 alpha release :)
03:54 <luke-jr_> ...
03:54 <luke-jr_> 0.3.1 alpha == 0.3.0
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04:12 <Vanhayes> .as
04:12 <tronner> Vanhayes: This data is 54 seconds old; [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (11/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (9/10), SpeedeRs (Mini TST) (9/32), Swampland Mud Puddle (8/8), Wild West  =Sumo= (7/16), -=F²=- Fatal Force Loose DF Server (6/8), OBSI'S-->-=FRIENDLYZONEPLS=-<--OBSI'S (4/10), ..D.o.g.F.i.g.h.t.. (3/8), -=F²=- Fatal Force Sumo Server (3/12), .dBd|High Rubber (3/8), Wild West  =Fortress Shootout= (1 more message)
04:20 <Vanhayes> #night
04:20 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
04:20 <Vanhayes> aha good ol armabot
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04:48 <ct|kyle> luke-jr_: I mean beta
04:49 <luke-jr_> ct|kyle: 0.3 will never get to beta!
04:49 <luke-jr_> beta is 0.2.8 or 0.4 or 1.0
04:50 <ct|kyle> luke-jr_: then wtf is 0.3.1 going ti be?
04:50 <ct|kyle> to*
04:51 <luke-jr_> ct|kyle: 0.3.* is experimental/pre-alpha
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11:31 <wrtlprnft> thanks, evaldusia :-)
11:31 <wrtlprnft> err, tab completion error
11:31 <wrtlprnft> evaldusia: everyone can, you just have to configure with --enable-master and --disable-glout
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12:23 <evaldusia> wrtlprnft k
12:24 <evaldusia> wrtlprnft enable-master for dedicated serv?
12:56 <evaldusia> lol that's a dumb question
12:56 <evaldusia> don't know why i even asked this
13:01 <evaldusia> wrtlprnft configured with --enable-master
13:01 <evaldusia> but it doens't work
13:01 <evaldusia> doesn't work*
13:13 <wrtlprnft> err, what do you want do do?
13:15 <evaldusia> don't know to act as master server
13:15 <evaldusia> if it's even possible
13:15 <wrtlprnft> if you configure with --enable-master you get an executable src/armagetronad_main_master which functions as a master server if invoked
13:16 <wrtlprnft> and if you install you get a handy init script, too
13:16 <evaldusia> hmm handy init script
13:16 <evaldusia> maybe do you have one?
13:16 <wrtlprnft> err, at least you get one on linux, dunno about other operating system
13:16 <wrtlprnft> s
13:18 <wrtlprnft> it won't be in the main rotation (only the masters pointed to by master{1..5}.armagetronad.net are queried by default), but it could be used as a subculture
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14:14 <evaldusia> ah yea
14:14 <evaldusia> found it
14:17 <evaldusia> wrtlprnft tried connecting to master server
14:17 <evaldusia> server got info from user
14:17 <evaldusia> i mean
14:18 <evaldusia> it got stuck
14:18 <evaldusia> when giving info to user
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14:47 <evaldusia> wrtlprnft
14:47 <evaldusia> how to execute scripts in server?
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17:51 <madmax> #cfg fromspeed
17:51 <armabot> madmax: CAMERA_CUSTOM_BACK_FROMSPEED: This value is multiplied with the current speed and added to CAMERA_CUSTOM_BACK. (default: 0.5) || CAMERA_CUSTOM_RISE_FROMSPEED: This value is multiplied with the current speed and added to CAMERA_CUSTOM_RISE. (default: 0.4) || CAMERA_SERVER_CUSTOM_BACK_FROMSPEED: This value is multiplied with the current speed and added to CAMERA_SERVER_CUSTOM_BACK. (default: (1 more message)
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18:45 <K-Yo> #help cfg
18:45 <armabot> K-Yo: (cfg <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "armaconfig @1".
18:46 <K-Yo> #help armaconfig
18:46 <armabot> K-Yo: (armaconfig <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "rss http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armaconfig.php?config=$1".
18:46 <K-Yo> .help cfg
18:46 <tronner> K-Yo: (cfg <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "armaconfig $*".
18:46 <K-Yo> .help cfg2
18:46 <tronner> K-Yo: (cfg2 <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "rss http://crazy-tronners.com/armaconfig.php?config=$1".
18:46 <K-Yo> .help cfg3
18:46 <tronner> K-Yo: (cfg3 <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "rss http://crazy-tronners.com/armaconfig.php?type=0.3&config=$1".
18:46 <K-Yo> .help armaconfig
18:46 <tronner> K-Yo: (armaconfig <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "rss http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armaconfig.php?config=$1".
18:46 <ct|kyle> K-Yo: same system just different location
18:46 <K-Yo> ct|kyle, not for .cfg
18:46 <K-Yo>  .cfg == #cfg
18:47 <K-Yo> #apropos cfg
18:47 <ct|kyle> ah yes
18:47 <armabot> K-Yo: cfg and cfg2
18:47 <K-Yo> #help cfg2
18:47 <armabot> K-Yo: (cfg2 <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "rss http://crazy-tronners.com/armaconfig.php?config=$1".
18:47 <K-Yo> #alias add cfg3 rss http://crazy-tronners.com/armaconfig.php?type=0.3&config=$1
18:47 <armabot> K-Yo: The operation succeeded.
18:47 <K-Yo> #cfg3 yo
18:47 <armabot> K-Yo: ACCESS_LEVEL_LIST_ADMINS_SEE_EVERYONE: Users with this access level or better will be able to list any configured admin, regardless of ADMIN_LIST_MIN_ACCESS_LEVEL. (Default: 2)
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19:56 <madmax> #sd
19:56 <madmax> #as
19:56 <armabot> madmax: Usage: #serverdetails [-v] {name}
19:57 <armabot> madmax: This data is 38 seconds old; The YELLOW Submarine (12/12), -  [ Nano's Playground | Nano Standard ]  -         . (1/8)
19:57 <madmax> hmm.
19:57 <noob13> Oo
19:57 <noob13> .as
19:57 <tronner> noob13: This data is 82 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (10/12), The YELLOW Submarine (10/12), ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress (8/32), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (6/12), OBSI'S-->-=FRIENDLYZONEPLS=-<--OBSI'S (5/10), -||BS| Broken Silence ~Fortress (5/8), |FA| Black Tar! (4/16), Wild West  =High Rubber= (3/16), ..D.o.g.F.i.g.h.t.. (3/8), |FA| Black Ice! (2/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (2/10), (1 more message)
19:57 <noob13> there's a party developing on DS Mega Fort
19:57 <noob13> i'll be there after dinner :P
19:58  * madmax goes
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20:41 <K-Yo> .si
20:41 <tronner> K-Yo: There doesn\'t seem to be a server matching “(urlquote” at the moment, sorry
20:41 <K-Yo> .si ds
20:41 <tronner> K-Yo: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate\'s Mega Fortress: Players (14/32): -»|hoop (hoop@forums), -»|slash, akira, ct|pike, free kill (dlh@generalconsumption.org), madmax, NayP, noob13, olive@win98 (Olive@forums), p0p3, Pez, Player 1, sine.wav, |Br|JhonZiinhuL
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21:05 <ct|kyle> .si incam
21:05 <tronner> ct|kyle: InCam Fortress Tourney (Ct\'s [USA]): Players (7/32): 2020 ]i[, ct¤kyle (kyle@ct/jedi), ct|pike ]|[, free kill (dlh@generalconsumption.org), jimmydeÄthf#ck, Pez, sine.wav
21:08 <ArmaPickupBot> Please !add up for European 4v4 Fortress in #armagetron.pickup ! 5 more people needed! (Type !add fort4.eu in #armagetron.pickup)
21:08 <evaldusia> ct|kyle
21:08 <evaldusia> do you have that paste bin site still
21:08 <evaldusia> forgot how to create that
21:08 <evaldusia> zthreads
21:09 <\u03b5>  /topic
21:09 <evaldusia> k
21:09 <evaldusia> lol
21:10 <evaldusia> lol
21:11 <evaldusia> uho wrtlprn doesn't have that day's log
21:12 <\u03b5> http://havoc.ift.uni.wroc.pl/~p4/logs/armagetron
21:13 <evaldusia> ty
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21:16 <evaldusia> ah damn it
21:16 <evaldusia> i'm missing compilers
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21:31 <Camicio1000> .search hockey
21:31 <tronner> Camicio1000: There were no matching configuration variables.
21:34 <madmax> .google camicio
21:34 <tronner> madmax: YouTube - rayandsgz's Channel: <http://www.youtube.com/user/rayandsgz>; AZTEC.RU (TBC 2.4.3) - www.wowstatus.net | World Of WarCraft ...: <http://www.wowstatus.net/detail.php?server=1096>; Camcio valute: <http://www.aereionline.it/change.htm>
21:36 <Camicio1000> I don't get those results
21:37 <madmax> #google camicio
21:37 <armabot> madmax: YouTube - rayandsgz's Channel: <http://www.youtube.com/user/rayandsgz>; AZTEC.RU (TBC 2.4.3) - www.wowstatus.net | World Of WarCraft ...: <http://www.wowstatus.net/detail.php?server=1096>; Camcio valute: <http://www.aereionline.it/change.htm>; epgp - Index of /: <http://ritter.wickdev.com/epgp/>; Urban Dictionary: Epic Fail Troll: (2 more messages)
21:37 <Camicio1000> I was playing a armagetron game that was similar to playing hockey, but the server seems to be down now
21:37 <noob13> .sd chico
21:37 <tronner> noob13: There doesn\'t seem to be a server matching “chico” at the moment, sorry
21:37 <madmax> I guess it's not google, it's lame-google
21:37 <madmax> #help google
21:37 <armabot> madmax: (google <search> [--{filter,language} <value>]) -- Searches google.com for the given string. As many results as can fit are included. --language accepts a language abbreviation; --filter accepts a filtering level ('active', 'moderate', 'off').
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21:57 <K-Yo> .si foot
21:57 <tronner> K-Yo: Lightfoot Hosting Demo Server (US): Players (0/16):
21:57 <K-Yo> .si chic
21:57 <tronner> K-Yo: There doesn\'t seem to be a server matching “chic” at the moment, sorry
21:58 <K-Yo> .si sty
21:58 <tronner> K-Yo: LS\'s Love Sty: Players (0/10):
21:58 <K-Yo> .si styb
21:58 <tronner> K-Yo: There doesn\'t seem to be a server matching “styb” at the moment, sorry
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21:58 <K-Yo> .si boost
21:58 <tronner> K-Yo: There doesn\'t seem to be a server matching “boost” at the moment, sorry
21:58 <K-Yo> heh
21:59 <\u03b5> tu devrais essayer pygamequery :p
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22:03 <sinewav> Deso: I just added you to the ID FPL roster. Welcome. http://fortresspremierleague.pbworks.com/ID-Clan
22:03 <sinewav> hope you can make a few matches.
22:04 <Deso> probably
22:04 <\u03b5> I'm not uptodate with who is an FPL admin
22:04 <\u03b5> who are FPL admins even
22:04 <K-Yo> pygamequery?
22:04 <K-Yo> .g pygamequery
22:04 <tronner> K-Yo: Bugs in A Game Server Querier: <https://bugs.launchpad.net/pygamequery>; epsy in Launchpad: <https://launchpad.net/~epsy>; Projects registered in Launchpad : Projects: <https://code.launchpad.net/projects/+all>
22:04 <sinewav> Deso: just keep an eye on that site occasionally. oh, and if you have IM I'd like that too...
22:04 <K-Yo> \u03b5, concord only iirc
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22:05 <Deso> tehbigd@hotmail.com
22:05 <sinewav> Deso: added. ty.
22:05 <\u03b5> oh ok, well he already has voice there
22:05 <\u03b5> tho he never comes
22:08 <PinkTomato> FPL?
22:08 <\u03b5> fortress premier league
22:08 <PinkTomato> new thing I guess
22:12 <\u03b5> link in the other chan's topic if you care
22:14 <PinkTomato> 4 months long?
22:14 <K-Yo> \u03b5, twisted.internet.protocol <- do you know in what package I can get that?
22:14 <\u03b5> twisted
22:14 <\u03b5> :P
22:15 <K-Yo> just "twisted"?
22:15 <\u03b5> usuall
22:15 <\u03b5> y
22:15 <K-Yo> python-twisted
22:15 <\u03b5> or that
22:15 <K-Yo> why is it called twisted?
22:15 <K-Yo> is it in any way twisted?
22:16 <K-Yo>   File "/home/k-yo/pygamequery/pygamequery/pygamequery/modules/favorites.py", line 28, in read_favorite
22:16 <K-Yo>     return Null
22:16 <K-Yo> NameError: global name 'Null' is not defined
22:17 <K-Yo> \u03b5,
22:17 <\u03b5> K-Yo, it is, I hated adding it as dep :(
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22:18 <Camicio1000> how do I spectate games?
22:18 <sinewav> player setup >  spectate: on
22:18 <Camicio1000> thanks
22:19 <sinewav> you can bind a key to it, that's very helpful
22:19 <K-Yo> yep
22:19 <K-Yo> though, I don't understand why the key is after all the instant chats...
22:19 <\u03b5> K-Yo, fixed
22:19 <K-Yo> thanks
22:19 <\u03b5> but I think you want to add favorites :>
22:19 <sinewav> heh. I made mine "delete" as in I'm deleting myslef from the grid
22:20 <K-Yo> \u03b5, ?
22:20 <\u03b5> I put it on the pause key
22:20 <\u03b5> simple, logical :>
22:20 <K-Yo> sinewav, lol ^^, I just use ²
22:20 <K-Yo> Server name: 0x878787C0x949494r0xa2a2a2a0xb0b0b0z0xbebebey 0xa4a4a4T0x959595r0x898989o0x808080n0x8e8e8en0x9c9c9ce0xa8a8a8r0xb7b7b7s 0x959595O0xbbbbbbp0xb0b0b0e0xaaaaaan 0xffff33S0x33ffadu0x6a3dffm0xff3d5bo
22:20 <K-Yo> lol
22:21 <K-Yo> maybe you should remove colors ^^
22:21 <\u03b5> yeah, filters are not too far away on my todo
22:21 <K-Yo> ok
22:21 <\u03b5> but I still have to abstract it and do it properly
22:21 <K-Yo>     Minimum accepted version: 3 <- what is this?
22:21 <\u03b5> because quake3 or tremulous have a different format
22:21 <\u03b5> the minimum version the server would accept
22:21 <\u03b5> tbh
22:21 <K-Yo> .sumo
22:21 <tronner> K-Yo: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo: Players (0/12):
22:22 <K-Yo> .ctwf -v
22:22 <tronner> K-Yo: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (crazy-tronners.com:4534) () running 0.2.8-sty+ct_alpha20090617 unix dedicated, url: http://www.crazy-tronners.com, Description: “There\'s like all these weird maps, man.“, Players (0/14):
22:22 <K-Yo> .si -v yellow
22:22 <tronner> K-Yo: The YELLOW Submarine (85.25.64.75:4538) (angeltron.game-host.org) running 0.2.8.2.1 unix dedicated, url: http://noobs.armagetron.co.uk, Description: “The official noob server. Settings are a work in progress, feel free to send in your suggestions.“, Players (10/12): *cazzy*, AI laim, AI team, Billy Mays, chicken wrap, der MK O\'Jay, echo, freddy, marra, Neo, Player 4, Randen
22:22 <K-Yo> \u03b5, player count is wrong when there is no player
22:23 <K-Yo>     Player count: 1
22:23 <K-Yo>     Maximum accepted version: 16
22:23 <K-Yo>     Players: ['Enduser']
22:23 <\u03b5> hm, It's the raw stuff fetched from the server
22:23 <K-Yo> .sumo
22:23 <\u03b5> and there is a player
22:23 <\u03b5> haha
22:23 <tronner> K-Yo: timed out
22:23 <K-Yo> hmmm
22:23 <K-Yo> .players
22:23 <\u03b5> Favorite servers
22:23 <\u03b5> Makes short handles for your favorite servers. Simply add a section named
22:23 <\u03b5> "Favorites" and make alias=server pairs. Make sure the alias's values aren't
22:23 <\u03b5> ambiguous.
22:23 <\u03b5> Example:
22:23 <\u03b5>     [Favorites]
22:23 <\u03b5>     myserv=quake3://localhost:54321
22:24 <tronner> K-Yo: timed out
22:24 <\u03b5> argh..add a section _in your config file_
22:24 <K-Yo> =)
22:24 <K-Yo> \u03b5, are these data easily usable with other scripts?
22:24 <\u03b5> yes
22:25 <\u03b5> it's one of it's goals
22:25 <\u03b5> If I remember correctly, you can have something like
22:25 <\u03b5> from pygamequery.modules.ping import PingQuery
22:26 <\u03b5> from pygamequery.server import Server
22:26 <\u03b5> print PingQuery( Server("address") )
22:26 <K-Yo> that would be python right?
22:26 <\u03b5> obviousely
22:27 <K-Yo> ok
22:30 <\u03b5> $ gamequery ping ctos --format '%(full_address)s (%(Player count)s/%(Maximum amount of players)s): %(Players)s'
22:30 <\u03b5> :)
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22:33 <K-Yo> \u03b5, where could I find the list of functions, arguments, ...
22:34 <K-Yo> and I couldn't find the fav and config files :/
22:34 <\u03b5> there isn't a lot of doc yet
22:34 <\u03b5> cfg file is ~/.pygamequery/pygamequery.cfg
22:34 <K-Yo> looks like it ^^
22:34 <\u03b5> about code doc, doc is poor as well
22:35 <\u03b5> but I'm working on that
22:35 <K-Yo> \u03b5, http://pastebin.ca/1602382
22:36 <K-Yo> I had to interrupt it
22:36 <\u03b5> oh right, the armagetronad plugin doesnt handle timeouts :<
22:36 <\u03b5> thx
22:37 <K-Yo> and there is no ~/.pygamequery/pygamequery.cfg
22:37 <\u03b5> but atm getlist just returns a raw list of servers
22:37 <K-Yo> not even the folder
22:37 <K-Yo> ok
22:37 <\u03b5> well yeah it doesn't go around and create files if you don't want them, just create an empty one :)
22:38 <K-Yo> okay
22:38 <K-Yo> I won't, since I don't know what to put in it ^^
22:38 <K-Yo> i'll wait for more doc
22:39 <\u03b5> atm there's just Modules and Favorites(if the Favorites module is loaded) sections
22:50 <\u03b5> night
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23:17 <ct|kyle> sinewav: ping
23:17 <ct|kyle> or I guess could I get someone to come into incam fortress server
23:17 <ct|kyle> .si incam
23:17 <tronner> ct|kyle: There doesn\'t seem to be a server matching “incam” at the moment, sorry
23:18 <ct|kyle> .si InCam
23:18 <tronner> ct|kyle: There doesn\'t seem to be a server matching “incam” at the moment, sorry
23:18 <ct|kyle> .si [usa]
23:18 <tronner> ct|kyle: There doesn\'t seem to be a server matching “[usa]” at the moment, sorry
23:19 <ct|kyle> InCam Fortress Tourney (Ct's [USA])
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05:52 <ct|kyle> .si incam
05:52 <tronner> ct|kyle: InCam Fortress Tourney (Ct\'s [USA]): Players (1/32): ct¤kyle (kyle@ct/jedi)
06:27 <sinewav> .si incam
06:27 <tronner> sinewav: InCam Fortress Tourney (Ct\'s [USA]): Players (0/32):
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09:47 <zmanuel> NOW THIS IS NOT FUNNY ANY MORE, GENTOO.
09:49 <zmanuel> bash 4.0 conflicts with portage < 2.1.5
09:49 <zmanuel> the earliest portage version after that requires bash 3.2
09:50 <zmanuel> (bash 3.2 also conflicts with portage 2.1.5)
09:51 <zmanuel> HOW THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO RESOLVE THAT?
09:53 <zmanuel> Normally, I'd unmerge the conflicting package, then emerge the new one.
09:54 <zmanuel> But hey, I can't emerge anything after I unmerge portage. Smart move there.
09:54 <zmanuel> (dunno whether it even is possible to unmerge portage itself)
09:55 <zmanuel> "Gentoo: Update your system as often as you want. As long as that is more often than once a month."
09:55 <zmanuel> Not to mention that my profile went from supported to nonexistent between the last update and this one.
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11:34 <compguygene> Hi, I have finally reached the point with one of my dedicated servers, that I would like to run a resourse repository mirror on one.  But, I have a few questions, since aabeta is down
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14:43 <compguygene> I have a question about mirroring the resource repository
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15:33 <P4> good question :)
15:34 <luke-jr_> z-man-work: profiles don't go from supported to non-existent very fast; it must have been over a year since you last updated
15:39 <luke-jr_> http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/*checkout*/gentoo-x86/app-shells/bash/bash-3.2_p17-r1.ebuild
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18:03 <noob13> .as
18:03 <tronner> noob13: This data is 572 seconds old; [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (12/12), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (11/12), Bugfarm - Referee Votes - Ger (11/32), The YELLOW Submarine (10/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (6/10), Evil iNc.Evil Incorporated Server.Loose DF (5/12), SPACEZONE II S (3/15), >>> FAST TRACK FIGHT NOW (Closing forbidden) <<< (3/12), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (2/10), .dBd|High Rubber (2/8), (1 more message)
18:03 <noob13> .more
18:03 <tronner> noob13: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Arena {100MBit} (2/10), internalDrive -=- iD Tech Racing (2/16), Empha's Fortress Server (testing) (1/32), |FA| Black Tar! (1/16), Wild West  =High Rubber= (1/16), Fortress Onslaught (1/12)
18:03 <noob13> .sd onslaught
18:03 <tronner> noob13: Fortress Onslaught: Players (0/12):
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18:17 <emmy_arma> 1 person for mini-tst?
18:18 <emmy_arma> 1 person for mini-tst?
18:18 <emmy_arma> got it
18:27 <\u03b5> z-man-work,  http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=212652#p212652 protobuf*
18:28 <z-man-work> what about that? Anything wrong with my reply?
18:34 <\u03b5> propobuf :)
18:34 <\u03b5> @ z-man-work
18:34 <z-man-work> oh, help
18:34 <z-man-work> panic
18:35 <\u03b5> yes, panic time
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18:46 <luke-jr_> ?
18:51 <ct|kyle> when compiling the trunk you need --with-zthread  when you configure for zthreads to work right, correct?
18:53 <luke-jr_> it shoudl autodetect I think
18:53 <luke-jr_> ct|kyle: why don't you assimilate zthreads for us? :p
18:53 <ct|kyle> it does not
18:54 <ct|kyle> I want to get sty working with polygon zones :)
18:58 <luke-jr_> ...
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20:09 <AshitakA>  hi
20:10 <AshitakA>  does the pickup room excist anymore?
20:13 <AshitakA>  or is it closed?
20:14 <luke-jr_> closed I hope
20:14 <luke-jr_> stupid bot
20:14 <AshitakA>  why that?
20:14 <AshitakA>  i liked it
20:15 <luke-jr_> spammy
20:17 <AshitakA>  maybe it will be back
20:24 <noob13> .sd fort
20:25 <tronner> noob13: timed out
20:25 <luke-jr_> lulz
20:25 <luke-jr_> tronner fail
20:25 <tronner> http://imgur.com/VIPE.jpg
20:25 <luke-jr_> ljrbot: sd ford
20:25 <ljrbot> luke-jr_: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “ford” at the moment, sorry.
20:25 <noob13> :P
20:25 <luke-jr_> ]sd fort
20:25 <ljrbot> luke-jr_: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: Players (5/14): -||BS-t|Shaker, -||BS|us.A°pro, divineviolence (divineviolence@ct/public), milan (milan@ct/public), Thermos
20:25 <noob13> ]sd mega
20:25 <ljrbot> noob13: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress: Players (0/32):
20:26 <noob13> anyone for fortress?
20:26 <noob13> luke-jr_: ? :)
20:27 <luke-jr_> no
20:27 <noob13> do you ever play this game luke?
20:28 <noob13> ]ls luke-jr
20:28 <ljrbot> noob13: timed out
20:28 <luke-jr_> noob13: once in a long while
20:28 <noob13> .ls -g luke-jr@forums
20:28 <tronner> noob13: I haven\'t seen anyone matching “luke-jr@forums” yet, sorry.
20:28 <luke-jr_> .ls -g luke@dashjr.org
20:28 <tronner> luke-jr_: I haven\'t seen anyone matching “luke@dashjr.org” yet, sorry.
20:28 <luke-jr_> tronner: fail
20:28 <tronner> http://imgur.com/VIPE.jpg
20:28 <luke-jr_> noob13: more fun to code than to play
20:28 <luke-jr_> ]rating luke-jr
20:29 <ljrbot> luke-jr_: (113, 'No route to host')
20:29 <luke-jr_> oh, ratings still down :(
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20:37 <blueglasses> is armagetron.real in anyway connected to tomboy?
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20:42 <madmax> ?
20:42 <madmax> armagetron.real?
20:44 <K-Yo> .base 36 2 "Vote Blanc"
20:56 <ct|kyle> anyone know why I keep getting
20:56 <ct|kyle> [0] nKillHim signal caught.
20:56 <ct|kyle> [33] Killing user 33, ping 1.25.
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21:17 <blueglasses> madmax, armagetronad.real
21:20 <\u03b5> what is "armagetronad.real" ?
21:22 <blueglasses> !armagetron
21:23 <blueglasses> armagetronad - a 3D Tron-like high speed game
21:24 <\u03b5> I know what armagetronad is, thanks..
21:25 <blueglasses> so what dont you know?
21:25 <\u03b5> what does the ".real" mean or refer to?
21:26 <noob13> i have a file called that in /usr/games/
21:26 <noob13> no idea what it does tho :P
21:34 <noob13> .sd fortress
21:34 <tronner> noob13: SpeedeRs (Fortress): Players (16/32): -=}ID< Tremor, -»|FoFo, .×] Hoax, .×] Liza (Liza@forums), °°Hay-Lin, °°Sandglass, CT×GonZaP (Gonzap@ct/senior), delarge, Desolate, free kill (dlh@generalconsumption.org), jimmydeÄthf#ck, madmax, MaZuffeR, pW | Nizarî, stoned_olive98, ~*Rakim*~
21:34 <noob13> .sd -v fortress
21:34 <tronner> noob13: SpeedeRs (Fortress) (dupleix.co.uk:4534) () running 0.2.8_alpha20090904 unix dedicated, url: http://speeders.clannations.com/, Description: “Based in Paris, Europe.“, Players (16/32): -=}ID< Tremor, -»|FoFo, .×] Hoax, .×] Liza (Liza@forums), °°Hay-Lin, °°Sandglass, CT×GonZaP (Gonzap@ct/senior), delarge, Desolate, free kill (dlh@generalconsumption.org), jimmydeÄthf#ck, madmax, MaZuffeR, pW | (1 more message)
21:38 <sinewav> what's with the master servers lately? I have the hardest time connecting...
21:41 <noob13> a couple are down i hear..
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21:45 <Steamduck> Hello all,  I was wondering if ctos had a functioning ladder I could visit.
21:45 <noob13> Steamduck: not to my knowledge.
21:47 <noob13> Steamduck: at least its not on the list here http://crazy-tronners.com/ladder_quickjump.php
21:51 <ct|kyle> Steamduck: not right now however we have started some data collection, possible in the future we'll get one
21:52 <ct|kyle> Steamduck: and the only one of those that is active is wildfortress :)
21:53 <Steamduck> I noticed the several stats that you have visible while playing in the ctos server.  It's just fun to look at all the numbers.  You guys have some other ladders full of amazing details. I look forward to the ctos ladder.  cya
21:54 <ct|kyle> Steamduck: ya those stats we just started getting, we'll see about the other stats
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21:58 <ct|kyle> same here
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21:58 <ct|kyle> oops
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22:11 <ct|kyle> anyone for incam fort?
22:24 <Flex> mini map allowed?
22:24 <ct|kyle> Flex: no
22:24 <ct|kyle> Flex: also no camera allowed
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22:54 <madmax> sinewav: been having that too
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00:28 <noob13> .sd fort
00:28 <tronner> noob13: Wild West  =Fortress Shootout=: Players (7/12): -=}ID< ßµ||£, -=}ID< Nut, Kenny, lagger, Runner, Ryoko Asakura, Ww_Compguygene (compguygene@forums)
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00:28 <noob13> how fast can a rocket travel to the moon?
00:29 <ct|kyle> noob13: fast (if it is travelling fast)
00:30 <noob13> you heard about nasa bombing the moon tomorrow?
00:30 <noob13> apparently it will get there in 1.5 hours
00:30 <noob13> is that possible?
00:30 <ct|kyle> noob13: yes the rocket is already in orbit it thought
00:31 <noob13> oh, right..
00:31 <noob13> well that explains..
00:31 <ct|kyle> they launched about the same time the last shuttle mission did
00:31 <Vanhayes> ha your guy's leader is trying to get free healthcare and ours is singing the beatles with yo yo ma   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOt2Qp0H9G8   <--Ha
00:31 <ct|kyle> noob13: in 13 hours it impacts
00:32 <Vanhayes> sorry just saw that and had to say something
00:32 <ct|kyle> noob13: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LCROSS/main/index.html
00:32 <noob13> ct|kyle: indeed, i did the math just now too ;)
00:32 <Vanhayes> wait whay is nasa bombing the moon?
00:32 <ct|kyle> yes
00:32 <Vanhayes> why*
00:32 <ct|kyle> to find h1 particales
00:33 <ct|kyle> or even h20
00:33 <noob13> to confirm the presence of water, yes..
00:33 <Vanhayes> that just seems like a bad idea
00:33 <noob13> thats what i thought too :P
00:33 <ct|kyle> I've been watcing out for this mission since the google lunarx topic on forums
00:33 <Vanhayes> something out of a comic booko or james bomb movie
00:33 <Flex> nasa bombing the moon? haha
00:34 <noob13> it'll apparently make a 4 meter deep dent... seems awfully pointless
00:34 <Vanhayes> hmm so its around 6:15 est am tommorow?
00:34 <noob13> EDT*
00:34 <noob13> whatever that is
00:34 <ct|kyle> 7:31 a.m. EDT/
00:34 <noob13> ^impact time, yes
00:34 <ct|kyle> 6:15 is whne nasa coverage starts
00:35 <Vanhayes> ah ok
00:35 <noob13> there's a live stream of it online :)
00:35  * ct|kyle sets up tvo
00:35 <Vanhayes> ill probably be up around then if that is eastern time
00:35 <ct|kyle> I'm lazy
00:35 <Vanhayes> i always thought it was est eastern standard time
00:36 <Vanhayes> well im on atlantice so it will be 7 15 and 8 15
00:36 <Vanhayes> atlantic
00:36 <Vanhayes> *
00:36 <Vanhayes> horrible with typos today
00:44 <ct|kyle> Vanhayes: EST in winter EDT in summer
00:44 <ct|kyle> Easters Daylight time
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01:39 <Vanhayes_> .as
01:39 <tronner> Vanhayes_: This data is 84 seconds old; Wild West  =High Rubber= (10/16), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (10/12), ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress (9/32), The YELLOW Submarine (8/12), |FA| Black Tar! (7/16), Swampland Mud Puddle (7/8), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (6/10), -=F²=- Fatal Force Sumo Server (6/12), ~Wild Night~ (5/10), The Tanning Salon (4/10), OBSI'S-->-=FRIENDLYZONEPLS=-<--OBSI'S (2/10), Wild West  =CTF (1 more message)
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04:33 <ct|kyle> .google calc 2,200kg in tons
04:33 <tronner> ct|kyle: 2200 kilograms = 2.42508488 short tons
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04:55 <ct|kyle> oi Ww_compguygene :)
04:57 <Ww_compguygene> hi kyle :)
04:57 <Ww_compguygene> turns out my trunk binary compile did not work... :(
04:57 <luke-jr_> ...
04:57 <Ww_compguygene> but I am giving up for now and going back to the project i was working on
04:57 <ct|kyle> Ww_compguygene: you are tying the merged one right?
04:57 <Ww_compguygene> yes
04:58 <ct|kyle> Ww_compguygene: that's because there is an error when merging
04:58 <Ww_compguygene> yes, i saw that, how do i fix that?
04:58 <ct|kyle> with zZone.h
04:58 <ct|kyle> I'll just pastebin mine
04:58 <Ww_compguygene> ty
04:58 <Ww_compguygene> whoopee
04:59 <Ww_compguygene> hi luke, have a question
05:00 <Ww_compguygene> i have setup a basic resource server, and would like to setup a full repository mirro
05:00 <Ww_compguygene> mirror
05:00 <luke-jr_> cool
05:00 <Ww_compguygene> the wiki says that I need to ask for a mirro number
05:00 <luke-jr_> unfortunately, I *think* you need to wait for the master to be restored
05:00 <luke-jr_> oh, yeah
05:00 <luke-jr_> I can do that
05:00 <Ww_compguygene> i figure it is one way to give back
05:00 <Ww_compguygene> yeah
05:00 <Ww_compguygene> i assumed that aabeta needs to be restored
05:01 <luke-jr_> Ww_compguygene: you get nine
05:01 <Ww_compguygene> ok
05:01 <Ww_compguygene> and just to clarify
05:01 <Ww_compguygene> in the vhosts settings, i use "nine" correct?
05:01 <ct|kyle> Ww_compguygene: http://pastebin.com/m6a78b79a
05:01 <luke-jr_> nine.something
05:01 <luke-jr_> but yes
05:01 <Ww_compguygene> just wanted to make sure
05:02 <Ww_compguygene> i understand it is quite a process for aabeta to be moved and setup in a new location
05:02 <luke-jr_> not really
05:02 <luke-jr_> just nobody has time I guess
05:02 <Ww_compguygene> oh, good to hear
05:02 <Ww_compguygene> well, i was thinking in terms of time, not technical ability
05:03  * Ww_compguygene knows that this is a volunteer effort, and people have actual lives too
05:03 <luke-jr_> you also ensured I had to work more with non-Arma-related work with your semi-hobby company, but oh well
05:04 <luke-jr_> more hosting biz for me gives me more time to work on the game, after all
05:04 <ct|kyle> is there an easy way to get the player's wall colour in ePlayer.cpp  other than doing what it is ePlayerNetID::Color
05:05 <luke-jr_> ct|kyle: no, for a good reason
05:05 <Ww_compguygene> well, our customers are very happy with the level of support that they are getting, though most of it is in the initial stages of setup, etc.
05:05 <ct|kyle> luke-jr_: what's the good reason
05:05 <luke-jr_> or maybe not for a good reason, but such good reason does exist regardless
05:05 <luke-jr_> ct|kyle: why assume the walls will be a single colour? :)
05:05 <ct|kyle> luke-jr_: I guess I want the players name colour
05:05 <ct|kyle> wich usually matches the wall
05:06 <luke-jr_> oooh
05:06 <luke-jr_> ct|kyle: you just made me think of a new game feature
05:06 <ct|kyle> I forgot sometimes you can have those not match
05:06 <luke-jr_> if only I had time to write it :(
05:06 <luke-jr_> think breakout
05:07 <luke-jr_> the first time someone crashes into your wall, it changes colour
05:07 <luke-jr_> the second time, it breaks
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05:07 <luke-jr_> obviously only suitable for a respawn game, like CTF
05:07 <ct|kyle> ya
05:08 <ct|kyle> king of the hill too luke-jr_
05:08 <ct|kyle> but is there an easy way to get the colour that a players name shows up with
05:08 <luke-jr_> maybe have a breakout game mode even
05:08 <luke-jr_> where the grid is split in two halves
05:09 <luke-jr_> the top team cannot pass through the bottom of the left side
05:09 <luke-jr_> and the bottom team cannot pass through the top of the right side
05:09 <luke-jr_> oh well, I can go on dreaming
05:09 <luke-jr_> :(
05:10 <ct|kyle> ya I've always wanted to do more with walls
05:10 <luke-jr_> hehe
05:11 <luke-jr_> I want my cycle to draw a sine wave behind me.
05:11 <luke-jr_> instead of a straight line
05:11 <luke-jr_> <.<
05:11 <Ww_compguygene> that certainly sounds cool
05:11 <luke-jr_> the ultimate anti-grind
05:11 <ct|kyle> heh
05:11 <Ww_compguygene> did you pastebin that file kyle?
05:11  * Ww_compguygene is a noob
05:12 <ct|kyle> I never thought about using pwalls to split a grid or something
05:12 <luke-jr_> Ww_compguygene: ever try my rotating grid?
05:12 <ct|kyle> Ww_compguygene: yes http://pastebin.com/m6a78b79a
05:12 <Ww_compguygene> no, i don't think i have
05:12 <Ww_compguygene> ty kyle
05:12 <luke-jr_> Ww_compguygene: requires a recent trunk build
05:12 <luke-jr_> it's an ordinary square grid, but the grid walls rotate
05:12 <ct|kyle> hmm I never tried it either
05:13 <luke-jr_> the bots suck :/
05:13 <Ww_compguygene> ahhh seen it
05:14 <Ww_compguygene> when i get around to building a trunk client for the linux install on my wife's pc, i will try it
05:15 <Ww_compguygene> i will be excited to get this server binary built with the branch that zman made with updated bots.
05:15 <Ww_compguygene> I have a few ideas i would like to play with
05:17 <ct|kyle> Ww_compguygene: if you use that on src/tron/zone/zZone.h that should fix everything for you
05:17 <Lucifer> I wish we could have a rule for irc that puts clan tags after the person's name
05:17 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: that would make too much sense though
05:18 <Ww_compguygene> I am putting it on my dedicated server in france, since i think that the type of servers i want to make will have more of a Euro following at first
05:18 <Lucifer> if too many clan members were here using their clan tags, we might do it anyway
05:18 <Lucifer> luckily, there's only one ct person here, so nobody has to type ct|k<tab>
05:18 <ct|kyle> I only use mine since kyle is taken
05:18 <Ww_compguygene> well
05:18 <Ww_compguygene> i only use this as my backup name
05:18 <Ww_compguygene> i prefer to be just compguygene
05:18 <Lucifer> but who wants to have to type Ww_c<tab>?  What's the use of tab completion then?
05:19 <ct|kyle> I would prefer having kyle, but its hard to get a name like that in here
05:19 <Lucifer> at least you guys have sane clan tags that, even though we'd potentially have to type 4 characters just to get to the first letter of your name, we actually *can* type them
05:19 <Ww_compguygene> i c ur point, and I would move the clan tag, if i hadn't already reg'd this nic
05:19 <Ww_compguygene> nick
05:19 <Lucifer> you can always move it and link it
05:19 <Lucifer> my username is still technically Lucifer_arma
05:20 <Lucifer> when I was able to take over Lucifer, finally, I just linked it to Lucifer_arma
05:20 <Ww_compguygene> or i could just use yet another email address for reg
05:20 <Lucifer> I may have linked LuciEatsPeople too, I don't remember now
05:20 <Ww_compguygene> lol, cute
05:21 <Lucifer> I need to write a comic about dating a mexican girl and slip it in on Monday
05:21  * Ww_compguygene follows that kewl comic strip, it is fun
05:21 <ct|kyle> Ww_compguygene: GROUP
05:21 <Lucifer> heh, thanks :)
05:22 <Lucifer> I've got two dating/science jokes coming up, I want to slip in a differentiator/integrator between them
05:22 <Ww_compguygene> glad to see you have found a good creative outlet!
05:22 <ct|kyle> Lucifer probably knows my answer on how to get the values for the colour of a players name
05:23 <Lucifer> heh, it's fun.  :)  Even though tomorrow's comic is probably going to disappoint everybody
05:23 <Ww_compguygene> I am thinking of drawing a few cartoons with paint.net...cuz i use windoze for that kind of thing
05:23 <Lucifer> I'm drawing on paper and scanning
05:23 <Ww_compguygene> i thought so
05:23 <Lucifer> that's the only way to do it right, even if, like me, you can't draw
05:23 <Ww_compguygene> yet another reason to hook my scanner back up...
05:24 <Lucifer> yeah :)
05:24 <Lucifer> draw black and white, scan it like that, color on the computer
05:24 <Ww_compguygene> makes sense, thanks for the advice
05:24 <Lucifer> if I had a faster computer, I'd also do my lettering on the computer, inkscape is perfect for that
05:24 <Lucifer> you can also easily do touch-ups, I've had to touch-up a couple because of screw-ups I made while inking
05:25 <Ww_compguygene> ahh...ok, time to start using inkscape for me then....been thinking of using inkscape to make the basics of some maps, i don't like how armabell works
05:25 <Ww_compguygene> and i am not ready to just hand code
05:25 <Lucifer> maps are kinda tricky to hand code, actually
05:25 <Lucifer> when I was making maps, I drew them out on graph paper first, then hand-coded from that
05:26 <Lucifer> inkscape + grid for the outline, then hand-code the rest
05:26 <Ww_compguygene> I am used to useing google sketchup
05:26 <Lucifer> I'd definitely go that route now
05:26 <Ww_compguygene> I was thinking of using it for a grid etc...and then hand coding...but inkscape looks to be superior for this application
05:27 <Ww_compguygene> I use sketchup for carpentry and wood projects
05:27 <Ww_compguygene> I am designing a deck for our mobile home this winter..so i can build it in the spring
05:28 <ct|kyle> inkscape does not work for zones on maps
05:28 <ct|kyle> because it defined the points instead of using an ellipse
05:28 <Lucifer> does the converter leave in svg that it doesn't recognize?
05:29 <Lucifer> somebody should just write an export plugin for inkscape
05:29 <ct|kyle> inkscape just maps me mad when I make maps on it. I have to set the line thickness to 0
05:42 <ct|kyle> Ww_compguygene: would you also like my little hack to set number of defender/attackers with commands
05:46 <Ww_compguygene> can you explain said hack?
05:47 <Ww_compguygene> cuz, i totally want that
05:47 <Ww_compguygene> btw, kyle, i live near cleveland, oh
05:47 <Ww_compguygene> i saw ur in indiana, we are practically neighbors!
05:48 <Ww_compguygene> is you hack an additional item to add to my source?
05:49 <ct|kyle> Ww_compguygene: yes it would be a little addition to the source
05:50 <ct|kyle> Ww_compguygene: funny you mention that we are practically neighbours, I just realized that too
05:50 <Ww_compguygene> neat
05:51 <Ww_compguygene> I really like the new stats page ed put up...as my first attempt at a php script, i am playing with something similar
05:52 <Ww_compguygene> but I am trying to code it more as a "framework" that any server admin can easily customize.
05:52 <ct|kyle> what new stats page?
05:52 <Ww_compguygene> well, its not new, but the Wild fortress ladder page
05:53 <Ww_compguygene> that draws the stats from the wild fortress servers
05:53 <ct|kyle> ah yes
05:54 <ct|kyle> I just updated that a bit recently
05:54 <Ww_compguygene> i figured
05:54 <ct|kyle> Ww_compguygene: my hack is on lines 462-466 and 856-485 of zFortress.cpp  here is my full zfortress.cpp http://pastebin.com/m5145cbd3
05:55 <ct|kyle> I am hoping to get open sumo in there too
05:56 <Ww_compguygene> Thanks, i got it
05:57 <Ww_compguygene> now is the time for me to do this, as i build my binary
05:57 <Ww_compguygene> when i am done
05:57 <Ww_compguygene> flex wants me to walk him through it so he can have the same
05:57 <ct|kyle> Ww_compguygene: I forgot to tell you that makes it so you can set AI_ATTACKERS and AI_DEFENDERS
05:57 <ct|kyle> that's the number of bots you hope to have doing that job
05:58 <Ww_compguygene> nice
05:58 <ct|kyle> I just set one of them to one and the other to 0
05:58 <Ww_compguygene> i c
05:58 <ct|kyle> to 1 I mean
05:58 <Ww_compguygene> and a good script can manipulate that!
05:58 <ct|kyle> oh and it both are less than or equal to 0 it will make it be defender
05:59 <ct|kyle> ya that is what I have :)
05:59 <Ww_compguygene> sweet, da beauty of open source, sharing
06:00 <ct|kyle> I have it a bit of a mess right now, I'm working on fixing my ct-ladderlog branch of the trunk
06:00 <ct|kyle> .cfg3 laderlog_write_nu
06:00 <tronner> ct|kyle: Sorry, no matches :S
06:01 <ct|kyle> .cfg3 ladderlog_write_nu
06:01 <tronner> ct|kyle: LADDERLOG_WRITE_NUM_HUMANS: Write to ladderlog: NUM_HUMANS (Default: 0)
06:01 <Ww_compguygene> I saw that you have a branch, good to know the state of it
06:01 <ct|kyle> it's about 1/2 implemented and ONLINE_PLAYER is broken
06:02 <ct|kyle> though I have a fix but I want a better one :)
06:03 <Ww_compguygene> i understand the desire to get the code right!
06:04 <ct|kyle> well right now it has the colour the player sets it to be, I want it to match more or less their  wall colour or name colour
06:05 <Ww_compguygene> ahh, hence your questions about that issue to luke
06:06 <ct|kyle> ya
06:07 <Ww_compguygene> i really apreciate the help and hax
06:07 <Ww_compguygene> now i have the tools to make something new
06:08 <ct|kyle> Ww_compguygene: if you want my script it is python I can paste that too
06:09 <Ww_compguygene> that would be wonderful
06:09  * Ww_compguygene can read python, and figure it out
06:09  * Ww_compguygene has just decided to focus on php
06:10 <ct|kyle> I like my python :)
06:10 <Ww_compguygene> i understand
06:10 <Ww_compguygene> i just figured that it would take as much work for me to fully learn either
06:10 <Ww_compguygene> i would focus on php
06:11 <Ww_compguygene> especially since i can use it on webpages
06:12 <ct|kyle> Ww_compguygene: http://pastebin.com/m475640a9
06:14 <Ww_compguygene> nice script
06:14 <ct|kyle> that's a very toned down script of wildfortress
06:15 <Ww_compguygene> oh really!
06:15 <ct|kyle> my wildfort makes me a little sad in how bad it looks to me
06:15 <ct|kyle> wildfort is 10 times as long
06:16 <Ww_compguygene> well, wildfort seems to do some pretty complex stuff afaik
06:17 <Ww_compguygene> and i would imagine that at a certain point, after all that functionality has kept growing
06:17 <Ww_compguygene> you will need to do a total re-write
06:17 <ct|kyle> Ww_compguygene: my python script was a total rewrite a year ago, but then I was just learning :)
06:18 <Ww_compguygene> :)
06:18 <Ww_compguygene> well, as i have been playing with a stats script
06:18 <ct|kyle> I have started an another rewrite though
06:18 <Ww_compguygene> i can see that i will be rewriting
06:18 <Ww_compguygene> kewl
06:19 <ct|kyle> this script should be a bit more effective on our IRC channel for information
06:19 <ct|kyle> all our IRC stuff was just hacked into it :P
06:19 <Ww_compguygene> nice
06:20 <Ww_compguygene> i will be interested in your next release
06:20 <Ww_compguygene> that is some funtionality i was going to ask about eventually
06:22 <ct|kyle> probably won't be too soon, not sure when I'll get it
06:22 <Ww_compguygene> no worries, i won't be ready any time soon
06:23 <Ww_compguygene> but i did register an IRC channel for theserverpharm for just that purpose
06:24 <ct|kyle> ya, we have way too much information on ours :)
06:25 <Ww_compguygene> lol
06:25 <Ww_compguygene> most of the people who use my servers have never used IRC.
06:25 <Ww_compguygene> in fact, they find IRC rather confusing!
06:25 <ct|kyle> we have forum posts, authentications, and several stuff form the grid
06:26 <Ww_compguygene> wow, i had no idea
06:26 <ct|kyle> we can change settings through tronner on the server, send messages and so on
06:27 <Ww_compguygene> i can understand why you guys do that
06:27  * Ww_compguygene is happy to be the only one to use his server consoles via ssh
06:27 <ct|kyle> heh
06:28 <ct|kyle> ya we send some cuss words to it and if they say admin
06:28 <Ww_compguygene> lol
06:29 <ct|kyle> we also have a 40mb database log of the chat on CTWF LOL
06:29 <Ww_compguygene> when people are in multple servers of mine, i like to put up a console window for each...and chat with the players i know
06:29 <Ww_compguygene> wow
06:29 <ct|kyle> I haven't got to making that shrink
06:29 <ct|kyle> ya I chat with players all from our IRC channel
06:29 <Ww_compguygene> well, for now, i am just letting my logfiles grow
06:29 <Ww_compguygene> kewl
06:30 <Ww_compguygene> and i intend to archive them over time, for historical purposes
06:30 <ct|kyle> we chop our log files dayly and only keep a weeks worth
06:30 <Ww_compguygene> you never know what kind of log might be useful or fun in 10 years
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06:31 <Ww_compguygene> well, i already have had other server admins ask if i can help verify identity of people's ip addresses.
06:31 <Ww_compguygene> and
06:31 <Ww_compguygene> i found it amusing to look back on some of the chat from when i first started my servers
06:31 <ct|kyle> ya we have that too
06:32 <Ww_compguygene> they all reset every night between 3-3:30 am edt
06:34 <Ww_compguygene> well, my wife works 3rd shift as a nurse, so I try to stay on a similar sleep schedule
06:34 <Ww_compguygene> but, now is the time for me, as a house husband, to get to work
06:36 <ct|kyle> ah
06:36 <Ww_compguygene> but, thanks again
06:36 <Ww_compguygene> running make is a good thing to do while cleaning house
06:37 <Ww_compguygene> i am glad for the 2 files, definately will make things good
06:37 <ct|kyle> only takes a few minutes
06:37 <Ww_compguygene> i know
06:37 <ct|kyle> try make -j2 :)
06:37 <Ww_compguygene> y -j2?
06:37 <ct|kyle> makes it faster
06:37 <Ww_compguygene> what do you compromise?
06:38 <ct|kyle> uses more of the CPU, it runs 2 processes instead of 1
06:38 <Ww_compguygene> nice!
06:39 <Ww_compguygene> all my dedicated servers are dual core atom processor based!  so that will help
06:39 <ct|kyle> I can't do that on our VPS's though :( but on my home PC it goes form 2 minutes to about 30 s
06:40 <Ww_compguygene> oh
06:40 <Ww_compguygene> b4 i go
06:40 <Ww_compguygene> i have put up a ventrilo that is being used by americans... talk.theserverpharm.net 3784
06:40 <Ww_compguygene> i can now launch a second, euro based one
06:41 <Ww_compguygene> do you think your fellow ct'ers might be interested to try it?
06:41 <Ww_compguygene> cuz if you think they would be, I will post on ur forum, and ask if ct would like a public and private channel
06:42 <Ww_compguygene> this is an interim solution while I am learning to setup mumble, and getting a web interface going for the admin of it
06:42 <ct|kyle> I'm not sure, we have a private channel, I've just never used it :P
06:42 <ct|kyle> I haven't been able to get the software on my computer
06:43 <ct|kyle> ya we have mumble
06:43 <Ww_compguygene> np
06:43 <Ww_compguygene> ur prolly using the one zman setup
06:43 <ct|kyle> I can never think of the name
06:43 <ct|kyle> I think it'sour own
06:43 <Ww_compguygene> kewl
06:44 <ct|kyle> sol set it all up and our accounts so I really am not sure
06:44 <Ww_compguygene> well, the plan is for Wwhosting http://www.lagtest.net/wwhosting to resell mumble servers to clans that want them
06:44 <Ww_compguygene> glad to hear ct is using mumble some
06:44 <Ww_compguygene> a voip solution can really help in clan wars and tourneys
06:45 <ct|kyle> ya
06:45 <ct|kyle> usually 2 or 3 of us use it, I just haven't played in many wars and haven't had the time to look into setting up a client
06:46 <Ww_compguygene> i c
06:46 <Ww_compguygene> anyway.....time for me to replace some files and compile....and work...gnite
06:46 <ct|kyle> ah yes it is on one of our VPS's
06:47 <Ww_compguygene> makes sense.
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07:21 <armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-ct-ladderlog] r922 fixed colour values on ONLINE_PLAYER
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09:06 <zmanuel> Umm, yeah. Anyone know how Psyko can be reached to inform him he's an idiot and fell for Cloaket?
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12:31 <sithy> OMG!
12:32 <sithy> where has armagetron gone?
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16:54 <luke-jr_> so how goes that OpenGL ES branch? :)
16:56 <luke-jr_> in fact, where is it? O.o
16:58 <\u03b5> on voodoo's account, on a separate project or in his junk for some reason
16:59 <\u03b5> I find it funny how CT puts stuff that has no chance of ever merging on the armagetron mainline while the put the rest on other projects
16:59 <\u03b5> they*
17:01 <luke-jr_> \u03b5: like what?
17:03 <\u03b5> https://code.launchpad.net/~aavoodoo
17:03 <\u03b5> and sty
17:03 <luke-jr_> voodoo is CT?
17:03 <\u03b5> yes
17:06 <luke-jr_> how much non-ES do we actually use?
17:06 <\u03b5> no idea, you'd better ask voodoo himself
17:06 <luke-jr_> oh, ew
17:07 <luke-jr_> voodoo's branch contains merges from mainline without any of the merge metadat
17:07 <\u03b5> that's gonna be nice!
17:07 <\u03b5> well forget what i said
17:07 <\u03b5> this has no chance of ever getting merged :x
17:09 <luke-jr_> and merge metadata on non-merges? wtf?
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18:19 <\u03b5> grr, how do i get netcat not to exit once it received crap
18:21 <K-Yo> set exit to 0 =)
18:22 <wrtlprnft> i usually use (while nc -l <bla>; do done) | <something>
18:22 <wrtlprnft> works as long as you're not trying to have simultaneous connections
18:22 <eddiefantastic> hi wrtlprnft :) long time... How's things?
18:22 <wrtlprnft> hi!
18:23 <wrtlprnft> yeah, i haven't been on IRC that much recently
18:23 <wrtlprnft> fine, though, thanks. I hope the same applies to you
18:23 <eddiefantastic> yeah, things are very good, thanks
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18:24 <eddiefantastic> kids are growing up. My boy was asking me just this morning where sperm comes from
18:24 <eddiefantastic> he's 5
18:24 <ct|kyle> pretty soon he'll be playing ton I guess
18:24 <ct|kyle> tron*
18:25 <wrtlprnft> :-)
18:25 <eddiefantastic> he plays maths: http://eddie.plantpeanuts.co.uk/maths/
18:25 <wrtlprnft> maybe he'll ask where n00bs come from
18:25 <wrtlprnft> flynn's maths :-D
18:25 <eddiefantastic> now that I can answer to a 5 year old :)
18:26 <eddiefantastic> try explaining sperm to a 5 year old who answers every question with an inquisitive "why?"
18:26 <wrtlprnft> i can imagine
18:27 <eddiefantastic> I've really got to go, bye bye
18:27 <wrtlprnft> cya
18:28 <ct|kyle> where's the derivatives option in maths :(
18:28 <K-Yo> I failed in addition :(
18:28 <K-Yo> too bad it doesn't remember stars!
18:29 <K-Yo> 2
18:29 <K-Yo> x 	2
18:29 <K-Yo> = 	
18:29 <K-Yo> Incorrect.
18:29 <K-Yo> The Answer is not 2.
18:29 <K-Yo> Please Try Again.
18:29 <wrtlprnft> meh, don't get me started on hacking together a script that takes me to level infinite
18:30 <\u03b5> a math interpreter?
18:30 <\u03b5> I think about doing such a thing all the time in match class :S
18:30 <ct|kyle> wonder if it accepts 0111 for 5+10
18:30 <wrtlprnft> i was thinking about something more trivial
18:30 <wrtlprnft> ct|kyle: i don't think php accepts that, so this page probably doesn't
18:31 <ct|kyle> darn :)
18:31 <\u03b5> php > var_dump(0111);
18:31 <\u03b5> int(73)
18:31 <wrtlprnft> it doesn't accept 010 for 3+5
18:32 <\u03b5> >>> 0111
18:32 <\u03b5> 73
18:32 <wrtlprnft> \u03b5: of course, but what about "0111" + 0 which is what eddie probably uses?
18:32 <\u03b5> php > var_dump("0111"+0);
18:32 <\u03b5> int(111)
18:32 <\u03b5> >>> "0111" + 0
18:32 <\u03b5> Traceback (most recent call last):
18:32 <\u03b5>   File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
18:32 <\u03b5> TypeError: cannot concatenate 'str' and 'int' objects
18:33 <\u03b5> php > var_dump((int)"0111");
18:33 <wrtlprnft> i haven't really written anything big in php lately, but I'm sure it's usually less pedantic
18:33 <\u03b5> int(111)
18:34 <ct|kyle> Congratulations!
18:34 <ct|kyle> You are the very good at this!
18:34 <\u03b5> >>> int("0111")
18:34 <\u03b5> 111
18:34 <\u03b5> :o
18:34 <ct|kyle> 149 / 150
18:34 <ct|kyle> the star I missed was because I put it in hex first :P
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18:35 <wrtlprnft> so there's 5 levels?
18:35 <ct|kyle> ya
18:35 <ct|kyle> all really easy
18:35 <wrtlprnft> lol, you can switch methods while being in a game
18:35 <\u03b5> http://us3.php.net/manual/en/language.types.string.php#language.types.string.conversion
18:35 <ct|kyle> I don't think so
18:36 <wrtlprnft> well, i expect you to be smarter than a 5 year old
18:36 <ct|kyle> true
18:36 <wrtlprnft> just edit the uri to the new type and it keeps all your stars
18:36 <ct|kyle> heh
18:36 <K-Yo> wrtlprnft, 3+5 is not 010, it's 1000 =)
18:37 <ct|kyle> 0100
18:37 <K-Yo> .base 2 10 0100
18:37 <tronner> K-Yo: 4
18:37 <wrtlprnft> $ php -r "print('0100' + 0);"
18:37 <wrtlprnft> 100
18:38 <wrtlprnft> #base 8 10 010
18:38 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 8
18:38 <wrtlprnft> K-Yo: leading zeroes usually indicate base 8
18:38 <\u03b5> they do
18:39 <K-Yo> wrtlprnft, oh, thanks =)
18:39 <K-Yo> who uses base 8?
18:39 <wrtlprnft> file permissions :-D
18:39 <K-Yo> well, 10 is always the base number anyway
18:40 <wrtlprnft> few languages support base 2 in their syntax… gcc supports 0b100 (=4) as an extension
18:41 <wrtlprnft> and most assembly languages use 100b for the same number (and 8h for hexadecimal)
18:41 <\u03b5> >>> 0b100
18:41 <\u03b5> 4
18:41 <wrtlprnft> #g 1+2
18:41 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 1 + 2 = 3
18:41 <wrtlprnft> \u03b5: didn't know that, thanks
18:41 <wrtlprnft> #g 0b100 in decimal
18:41 <\u03b5> :)
18:42 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 0b100 = 4
18:42 <wrtlprnft> #g 100b in decimal
18:42 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
18:42 <wrtlprnft> meh
18:42 <ct|kyle> #g 100b in decimal
18:42 <armabot> ct|kyle: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
18:44 <K-Yo> #g 0100 in decimal
18:44 <armabot> K-Yo: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
18:45 <K-Yo> .g 0b0101010110 in decimal
18:45 <tronner> K-Yo: No matches found.
18:45 <K-Yo> #g 0b0101010110 in decimal
18:45 <armabot> K-Yo: 0b0101010110 = 342
18:46 <K-Yo> .help g
18:46 <tronner> K-Yo: (g <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "google $*".
18:46 <K-Yo> .help google
18:46 <tronner> K-Yo: (google <search> [--{filter,language} <value>]) -- Searches google.com for the given string. As many results as can fit are included. --language accepts a language abbreviation; --filter accepts a filtering level ('active', 'moderate', 'off').
18:46 <K-Yo> #help g
18:46 <armabot> K-Yo: (g <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "google calc $*".
18:54 <P4> .help ar
18:54 <tronner> P4: (ar <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://tinyarro.ws/api-create.php?utfpure=1&host=xn--9gi.ws&url=$*".
18:55 <P4> is epsy related in any part with tinyarro.ws?
18:55 <\u03b5> I use it
18:57 <P4> .short http://bomex.eu/pl/oferta/gruzja/%26ofertashow%3D1%26wino_kolor%3Dczerwone%26wino_typ%3Dpolwytrawne%26ofertapozycja%3D459%26Page%3D%26wino_nazwa%3Damulet_mtevani
18:57 <tronner> P4: http://42.pl/u/1Pf5 → http://➽.ws/瓊
18:57 <P4> that's a fake one @ tinyarro
18:57 <\u03b5> works for me
19:00 <P4> .title http://➽.ws/瓊
19:00 <P4> hmm, it showed e:\program files\mIRC for me when i visited that for 1st time
19:00 <P4> now it shows me my wine :)
19:00 <P4> nv
19:00 <\u03b5> mirc i guess
19:01 <P4> ah yes
19:01 <P4> copy/paste works, double clicking sucks
19:01 <P4> lol
19:01  * P4 slaps Khaled Mardam-Bey
19:14 <luke-jr> guru3: ...
19:15 <luke-jr> guru3: DNS is on my end, you shouldn't change the armagetronad.net DNS
19:15 <luke-jr> that will only break everything I think
19:17 <luke-jr> guru3: also, remember the site itself is in Svn... looks like you made some edits directly to the cache on the webserver? :/
19:18 <guru3> i svned the www-aabeta
19:19 <guru3> only changed paths
19:19 <guru3> the resource and preivew stuff is as i rsynced it
19:21 <luke-jr> guru3: you changed the "bandwidth provided by" part, no? O.o
19:21 <luke-jr> guru3: anyhow, DNS needs to be on my end cuz aabeta.dashjr.org is still in use AFAIK
19:22 <luke-jr> actually
19:22 <luke-jr> I can probably CNAME aabeta -> beta.aa
19:22 <luke-jr> is the vhost config on DH setup for that?
19:22 <guru3> no
19:23 <guru3> can you set just vhosts on dreamhost?
19:23 <luke-jr> I would hope so? :/
19:24 <luke-jr> aabeta.dashjr.org. CNAME beta.armagetronad.net.
19:24 <luke-jr> done
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19:33 <luke-jr> guru3: :/
19:33 <luke-jr> I'd be surprised if it wasn't there under *some* name
19:37 <luke-jr> http://wiki.dreamhost.com/Mirror_Domain
19:38 <Vanhayes> \u03b5, how come I can't join armagetron.pickup anymore?
19:38 <\u03b5> chan closed
19:38 <Vanhayes> no more pickup games?
19:38 <\u03b5> well, it was pretty much over anyway
19:38 <Vanhayes> or it wasn't being used as much anymore?
19:38 <Vanhayes> ah ok
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21:32 <Vanhayes> #as
21:32 <armabot> Vanhayes: This data is 36 seconds old; ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress (12/32), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (11/12), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (9/12), The YELLOW Submarine (7/12), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (6/16), Wild West  =High Rubber= (6/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (6/10), -=F²=- Fatal Force Loose DF Server (6/8), WILDCAT (5/8), SPACEZONE III (5/15), ~Wild Night~Loose~ (4/8), Norm's (1 more message)
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21:35 <Vanhayes> btw was anyone else really dissapointed witth nasa's "blow a hole in the moon" plan?
21:35 <luke-jr> ?
21:37 <sinewav> I didn't watch it, but I really think there was a better use for NASA funds.
21:38 <ct|kyle> it was a cheep project probably < $0.5 per household
21:38 <ct|kyle> I was just upset that the cameras went out
21:38 <sinewav> yeah it seemed like it was cheap.
21:39 <sinewav> I'm way more interested in Mars... and getting people there.
21:40 <ct|kyle> we have to goto the moon to get to mars
21:41 <sinewav> yeah, and that's one of the reasons I didn't like that last Moon experiment.
21:41 <sinewav> I don't see it as a stepping stone to Mars.
21:42 <Vanhayes> i don't see how blowing a crater in the moon and watching the debris cloud is a good use of resources
21:42 <ct|kyle> ya, but lcross will help figure things out, figure out the cost and see if they can make their  own fuel to go home there
21:42 <Vanhayes> especially when the camera goes out
21:43 <ct|kyle> all the sensors preformed perfectly
21:43 <ct|kyle> they got the data they wanted
21:43 <Vanhayes> ah well then its just the public that got left out then
21:43 <sinewav> well, I guess it was a cheap experiment. And it keep space exporation on our minds.
21:44 <Vanhayes> nasa is US funded right? or is it internatioanlly funded too?
21:44 <sinewav> both I think.
21:44 <ct|kyle> ya, hopefully they release the videos and stuff from hubble and other telescopes soon
21:44 <ct|kyle> US founded
21:44 <ct|kyle> funded*
21:44 <Vanhayes> must be international if other country's astronauts use it's space ships too
21:44 <sinewav> NASA doesn't have any foreign investors?
21:45 <sinewav> I can't see how that's possible.
21:45 <ct|kyle> well deals and stuff for the shuttles to carry parts up, but I think with the kibo laboratory I think the deal was for japan to fly cargo up (winch they have now :)
21:45 <Vanhayes> well i know canada has astronauts but no space shuttles or launch site (yet)
21:46 <ct|kyle> canada has the robotic arm of both the shuttle and the station
21:46 <ct|kyle> and Dextre
21:47 <ct|kyle> I had a lot more fun watching the Deep impact mission than this moon one
21:47 <Vanhayes> I think we sold that to the states just a little while ago
21:48 <Vanhayes> the rright to make it or whatever
21:48 <ct|kyle> the right to make what?
21:48 <Vanhayes> could be mistake thought i read that somewhewrre
21:48 <ct|kyle> dextre is the robot on the space station was taken up last year
21:48 <Vanhayes> the canadarm
21:51 <Vanhayes> though i get alot of my states news from the daily show and colbert report
21:51 <sinewav> ol
21:51 <Vanhayes> they at least dont bombard you with their facebook and twitter accounts
21:52 <Vanhayes> or use comments on those on live news
21:53 <Vanhayes> obama won a peace prize?
21:53 <sinewav> I don't watch tv. I get all my news from search engines.
21:53 <sinewav> peace prize for what?
21:53 <sinewav> what did he do?
21:54 <ct|kyle> hopefully Monday or later today nasa will put hubbles image of the event up as image of the day
21:55 <Vanhayes> im not sure i just turned cnn on and it was on the bottom there
21:55 <Vanhayes> though cnn isnt all to reliable
21:55 <ct|kyle> Vanhayes: looks like it
21:56 <Vanhayes> wow surprise nobel peace prize winner...
21:56 <Vanhayes> he won more for promise then achievment...
21:56 <Vanhayes> that is horrible
21:56 <ct|kyle> ya that it
21:57 <Vanhayes> i mean he hasn't done anything yet(if he does at all) yet he gets a nobel prize...
21:57 <Vanhayes> don't you get a good amount of money for that too?
21:58 <ct|kyle> sinewav: are you going to watch nova Tuesday night about the shuttles mission to Hubble for the last fixes
21:59 <Vanhayes> what is the predicted life of hubble left?
21:59 <Vanhayes> er life left of hubble*
21:59 <ct|kyle> I think 5-10 years
22:00 <Vanhayes> whats the next one planned to launch?
22:00 <Vanhayes> when* wow horrible typing skills lately
22:00 <ct|kyle> I don't remember.
22:01 <Vanhayes> hmm says the noble prizes are supposed to be awarded for things done in the precedding year
22:01 <ct|kyle> heh
22:02 <Vanhayes> i mean gahndi didn't even win won
22:02 <luke-jr> good
22:02 <Vanhayes> ... you are against gahndi?
22:02 <luke-jr> yes
22:02 <Vanhayes> gandhi**
22:03 <Vanhayes> sigh, why?
22:03 <MaZuffeR> prize money is 10M SEK
22:03 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohandas_Karamchand_Gandhi
22:05 <Vanhayes> luke-jr, you are against civil disobedience, non-violence, civil rights and freedoms, or indians?
22:06 <luke-jr> civil disobedience, modern "civil rights", and Indian (or any kind of) paganism
22:06 <Vanhayes> coolio, ill end this discussion here
22:06 <\u03b5>  
22:08 <sinewav> ct|kyle: I don't have a TV. I can't see anything that doesn't stream.
22:09 <ct|kyle> sinewav: I think it will be viewable online after it initially plays
22:09 <sinewav> Vanhayes: this is what I'm waiting for: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Webb_Space_Telescope
22:10 <sinewav> I'll check that out ky13, remind me.
22:10 <ct|kyle> sinewav: I'll try to :)
22:10 <\u03b5> asdf
22:11 <Vanhayes> i think i rember seeing something about that on discovery channel
22:11 <Vanhayes> MaZuffeR, id that per award winner or the total pool of money to dole out?
22:11 <Vanhayes> is*
22:11 <ct|kyle> sinewav: Vanhayes http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/hubble/
22:12 <Vanhayes> hmm i'm not sure if I get PBS here now
22:13 <Vanhayes> hmm jimmy carter won the peace prize in 2002
22:15 <MaZuffeR> Vanhayes, per winner
22:15 <Vanhayes> wow
22:16 <MaZuffeR> Vanhayes, http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/amounts.html
22:17 <Vanhayes> heh, was on that site already
22:17 <Vanhayes> wow nobel was loaded
22:18 <MaZuffeR> unintentional pun?
22:18 <Vanhayes> I guess so since i don't see it :/
22:18 <MaZuffeR> he invented dynamite
22:18 <Vanhayes> oh ya loaded
22:19 <Vanhayes> just wasn't clicking there
22:19 <Vanhayes> for me
22:19 <Vanhayes> hmm i guess 10000000 SEk is about 1.5 mil for oboma
22:20 <Vanhayes> still a nice surprise for him
22:21 <Vanhayes> still think there has to be some one else more deservering
22:22 <Vanhayes> ffs what is wrong with me today "deservering"?!?
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22:26 <Vanhayes> bah the news is bizzare today
22:27 <Vanhayes> marge sipson in playboy, hummer brand sold to china, nasa bombs the moon, and obama gets a peace prize
22:28 <Vanhayes> it's like every news station has been bought out by the onion
22:29 <ct|kyle> heh
22:30 <ct|kyle> Vanhayes: actually
22:30 <ct|kyle> #g 1.5 million sek in usd
22:30 <armabot> ct|kyle: 1.5 million Swedish kronor = 213 834 U.S. dollars
22:30 <ct|kyle> oh wait
22:30 <Vanhayes> # g 10000000 SEK in USD
22:30 <ct|kyle> #g 10000000 sek in usd
22:30 <armabot> Vanhayes: 10 000 000 Swedish kronor = 1.42556 million U.S. dollars
22:30 <armabot> ct|kyle: 10 000 000 Swedish kronor = 1.42556 million U.S. dollars
22:31 <ct|kyle> I read the wrong side of what you said :P
22:31 <Vanhayes> heh
22:31 <Vanhayes> how much does the president make a year?
22:31 <ct|kyle> 400,000
22:31 <ct|kyle> I think
22:32 <Flex> ct|kyle how does your open sumo server script work? (for the hostname when you join)
22:32 <Vanhayes> 500000 or something like that?
22:32 <ct|kyle> either that or 200,000
22:32 <ct|kyle> and that is per year
22:33 <Vanhayes> I bet he donates the money from the prize
22:33 <ct|kyle> ya it is 400,000
22:33 <Vanhayes> good pr for the people who don't think he has done enough
22:33 <Vanhayes> I thought it was around there
22:34 <ct|kyle> it was 200,000 before bush got it rased
22:34 <ct|kyle> G w bush
22:34 <Vanhayes> thats probably why i heard about it
22:34 <ct|kyle> wow
22:35 <Vanhayes> i think 200000 is more then enough for a year
22:35 <ct|kyle> 200,000 from 1969 in todays dollars is 1,175,000
22:36 <Vanhayes> wow
22:36 <Vanhayes> i guess 400 000 isnt that bad then
22:36 <ct|kyle> that is when 200k started
22:36 <Vanhayes> btw just want to mention it again our leader sang the beatles with yo yo ma
22:37 <Vanhayes> and played the piano, he was pretty good too
22:41 <K-Yo> .sumo -v
22:41 <tronner> K-Yo: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (78.46.226.237:4535) (static.237.226.46.78.clients.your-server.de) running 0.2.8-sty+ct_alpha20090927 unix dedicated, url: http://crazy-tronners.com/, Description: “Team Sumo Settings. First to be 1337 wins.“, Players (10/12): -||BS|ChrisGW (ChrisGW@forums), -||BS|kbblak, a, Cyanide, Death Crone (steam@forums), Enduser (P4@ct/jedi), f2Ares, milan (milan@ct/public), psylo, SpinAce
22:41 <K-Yo> .liv
22:41 <tronner> K-Yo: liv.crazy-tronners.com -> 78.46.226.237
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22:55 <ct|kyle> lol http://joelott.com/images/moon-hit-that.jpg
22:57 <Vanhayes> ha nice
23:01 <Vanhayes> is CNN down for anyone else?
23:01 <Vanhayes> if anyone has a tv nearby and doen't mind checking
23:02 <Vanhayes> just want to know if its the station or my cable company again
23:03 <Vanhayes> ah nvrm its back, must have been my cable company
23:04 <\u03b5> nn
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23:21 <Vanhayes> wow even more bizzare news, ted williams' frozen head hit with a wrench
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23:54 <ct|kyle> z-man: ping

Log from 2009-10-10:
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01:13 <Vanhayes> seems whichever one you ping gets disconnected ct|kyle
01:13 <ct|kyle> Vanhayes: ?
01:15 <joda_bot> ct|kyle: Vanhayes: ping :D
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01:15 <ct|kyle> lol joda_bot
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01:16 <joda_bot> Vanhayes: well done :D
01:16 <ct|kyle> Vanhayes: pong
01:17 <joda_bot> ct|kyle: ping me :-) gn8
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01:17 <Vanhayes> heh
01:17 <Vanhayes> joda_bot, ping
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01:20 <Vanhayes_> more bizzare news the terminator might go to jail for trying to release prisoners, prisoners complain
01:21 <ct|kyle> Vanhayes_: did you hear about the arrest and someone working on the LHC from al-Qaeda
01:23 <Vanhayes_> no, but that sounds disturbing
01:23 <ct|kyle> http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2009/10/09/collider-arrest-france.html
01:23 <Vanhayes_> yay for cbc
01:24 <Vanhayes_> doesn't say how he was supposedly linked to al qaeda
01:24 <Vanhayes_> worked there for 6 years too
01:25 <ct|kyle> ya I know
01:26 <Vanhayes_> so has the LHC been used yet? i thought i heard it was delayed for a while
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01:26 <ct|kyle> it was up for like a day
01:26 <ct|kyle> and then shut down until next month
01:27 <Vanhayes_> ya it wasn't working right i think
01:29 <ct|kyle> there was a liquid hydrogen leak
01:30 <Vanhayes_> hmm remeber hearing something about people protesting it
01:30 <Vanhayes_> i think they were a religous gruop claiming only god should have that power or something along those lines
01:34 <ct|kyle> luke-jr was part of the protest
01:34 <Vanhayes_> wouldnt surprise me
01:35 <Vanhayes_> luke-jr is against most things
01:47 <luke-jr> wtf?
01:47 <luke-jr> LHC has power?
01:51 <ct|kyle> to look into the big bang theory and hopefully prove it correct
01:52 <sine_awave> yawn. people getting upset about smashing particles. big deal.
01:52 <sine_awave> most human beings are idiots I think
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01:53 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: can't prove correct what is false
01:55 <sinewav> You know what? I used to not believe in the Big Bang until I finally understood how gravity and electro-magnetism worked (mostly understood).
01:55 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: God is false
01:55 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: nope, God is proven
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01:56 <luke-jr> LHC is just a waste of money at best, if that's its purpose
01:56 <luke-jr> actually, maybe not
01:56 <luke-jr> please get it powered up ASAP
01:56 <luke-jr> disprove your nonsense
01:57 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: you mean disprove your nonsence
01:59 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: nope
01:59 <ct|kyle> yes
02:00 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: then run that LHC thing
02:00 <luke-jr> if you're so certain
02:00 <luke-jr> DO EET
02:00 <sinewav> The LHC has nothing to do with God, shhesh.
02:00 <luke-jr> sinewav: ct|kyle claimed it did
02:01 <sinewav> however... any evidence just makes popular concepts of God less plausable.
02:01 <sinewav> which just makes the faithful stronger IMO
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02:23 <Flex> anything is better than "god did it"
02:23 <Flex> imo.
02:26 <Flex> wait can i be religious and say that at the same time?..
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02:34 <luke-jr> Flex: unless "god did it" is the truth
02:35 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: "god did it" is always a lie
02:35 <Flex> ct|kyle, Prove it.
02:35 <ct|kyle> science
02:36 <ct|kyle> I don't feel like digging up specific article to prove the option that make sense
02:36 <Flex> making sense isn't the truth, it's still an opinion
02:53 <sinewav> Concord: what shakin
03:02 <Concord> not much
03:03 <sinewav> Concord : you noticed team 'oops' been around lately?
03:03 <sinewav> saw Rain, Hay-lin, and pixel all in the last two weeks.
03:04 <sinewav> thought that would be interesting to you, since it's your old peeps.
03:05 <Concord> really?
03:06 <Concord> I'm suspicious
03:08 <sinewav> Concord: really? why?
03:10 <Concord> I guess only about Rain, usually I get an email or something
03:12 <sinewav> I was in gene's shrunkland and he wandered in there. When someone asked he said he was "that Rain" and I believed him as much as you can in a game like this.
03:12 <sinewav> the other two players I didn't talk to and saw them only breifly.
03:12 <sinewav> I guess it is kind of weird. Hmm...
03:13 <sinewav> of all players to imposter, why them? :o
03:13 <Concord> good point
03:13 <sinewav> and why all oops members?
03:13 <sinewav> bizarre
03:22 <ct|kyle> sinewav: that reminds me monky has been back :)
03:23 <sinewav> ct|kyle: wait. THE Monkey this time? We tried to look it up before, remember?
03:24 <Flex> really?
03:24 <Flex> ct|kyle how do you know?
03:25 <sinewav> kyle traced his IPs from UK to US, but the trail stopped last January.
03:25 <ct|kyle> well the ip comes from uk and ww|monk was the name
03:25 <sinewav> that's Monkey D. Luffy though.
03:25 <ct|kyle> realah
03:25 <ct|kyle> ah*
03:25 <sinewav> he's french
03:26 <Flex> i believe that monkey is american
03:26 <ct|kyle> did not know he was from Uk
03:26 <Flex> if i look into my logs, i think i can find all his ip's and hostname, which is the most important to give location
03:28 <Flex> he was kind of secretive on where he stayed, he would move sometimes
03:29 <Flex> but i miss that guy.. hope he's doing well.
03:33 <ct|kyle> ya I hope he comes back
03:33 <ct|kyle> but ya I'm pretty sure I tracked him playing from the uk to the us
03:33 <Flex> that can't be correct.. he wouldn't move to the us
03:35 <ct|kyle> maybe he was visting but following the names he changed to in the UK there was like a week or 2 break then the name came up in the US
03:39 <Flex> how many times in the US?
03:40 <ct|kyle> just a few
03:40 <Flex> could it have been a fake? does the US IP/name show up with any other tronner
03:41 <ct|kyle> ip range does not, well I think he had 2 names in the US, but it was only 4-5 times
03:42 <Flex> i'll get back to you with whatever i can get from my logs, ect.. i think i have two host names from him
03:44 <Flex> it's coming to a year now since he left
03:48 <ct|kyle> ya I know
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04:17 <ct|kyle> sinewav: could I get you to come to incam?
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09:45 <z-man-windows> AAAAAAAAAARRRGH! Ponyo supposedly launched two days ago in Germany, YET NO CINEMA WITHIN 50 KM IS SHOWING IT.
09:49 <z-man-windows> OH NOES. Rumor has it it's straight to DVD here :(
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16:54 <PinkTomato> \u03b5, what happened to pickup?
16:55 <\u03b5> closed
16:55 <PinkTomato> oh :(
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17:48 <wrtlprnft> what is/was pickup?
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18:12 <\u03b5> wrtlprnft, http://playfortress.wordpress.com/pickup/
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18:46 <PinkTomato> wrtlprnft, a script, where you registered interest in a game of armagetron, then pinged all players when a number was reached
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19:10 <luke-jr> also pinged the channel every 5 minutes or so for no reason
19:10 <luke-jr> rather annoying
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21:04 <eddiefantastic> luke-jr: you around?
21:04 <luke-jr> no.
21:04 <luke-jr> I am rather square.
21:05 <eddiefantastic> :) zones version 2 then....
21:05 <eddiefantastic> wasn't it you that "fixed it"?
21:05 <luke-jr> no, z-man-work fixed it IIRC
21:05 <luke-jr> I just made it backward compatible more
21:06 <eddiefantastic> circle zones are backward compatible?
21:06 <eddiefantastic> but crazy shapes won't let them in?
21:07 <eddiefantastic> Are crazy shapes supposed to work now? there is no mention of tham on the wiki anymore
21:07 <eddiefantastic> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Zones_v2
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21:07 <luke-jr> eddiefantastic: crazy shapes are not backward compatible at all
21:07 <eddiefantastic> I realise that
21:07 <eddiefantastic> but are they still meant to work with recent clients
21:08 <luke-jr> recent as in at least 0.3.2
21:08 <luke-jr> not compatible with 0.3.0
21:08 <eddiefantastic> yep, I get that
21:09 <eddiefantastic> It's just I'm quite willing to spend some time testing all it's features
21:09 <luke-jr> the map DTD needs some major repair work
21:09 <luke-jr> it's Saturday... I suppose I could spend some time on Arma
21:10 <eddiefantastic> I'd like to know what is supposed to work and more importantly is there anyone there who might like to fix it
21:10 <eddiefantastic> if I find issues that is
21:10 <eddiefantastic> not today, probably next week
21:10 <luke-jr> eddiefantastic: nothing is "supposed to work" for sure
21:10 <luke-jr> it's still in development
21:10 <luke-jr> I added a few other features a few months ago
21:11 <eddiefantastic> Ok, I'll have a play with it next week, build a couple of simple maps and see what happens
21:11 <luke-jr> eddiefantastic: did you see my rotating square grid map?
21:11 <eddiefantastic> I don't have a recent client build here
21:12  * eddiefantastic hides in head in shame
21:12 <eddiefantastic> windows only right now
21:12 <eddiefantastic> but I can set up dual boot
21:12 <eddiefantastic> I tried the server, but there was no rotation square map
21:12 <eddiefantastic> i have the latest wondows 0.3 release
21:13 <luke-jr> eddiefantastic: https://code.launchpad.net/armagetronad?field.lifecycle=MERGED
21:13 <luke-jr> that should give a list of the more recent features
21:15  * luke-jr wonders when/how we will ever sort out the Bazaar mess
21:15 <luke-jr> :/
21:16 <eddiefantastic> so are all the zonesv2 features now merged into the trunk?
21:16 <eddiefantastic> I suppose that's what the "merged" field means :S
21:17 <luke-jr> eddiefantastic: "zones v2 features" is very vague
21:17 <luke-jr> that list is not ended yet :p
21:17 <eddiefantastic> And is that wiki page on zonesv2 up to date?
21:17 <luke-jr> my plan is to include at least all the sty and CT additions in it
21:17 <luke-jr> shrug
21:18 <eddiefantastic> that would be nice :)
21:19 <luke-jr> I suppose I could make an event plugin interface, but \u03b5 was working on something liek that I think
21:20 <eddiefantastic> I gtg now, if I get a chance next week I will have a play around and post my findings
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21:32 <\u03b5> yes I was
21:35 <luke-jr> \u03b5: was?
21:35 <\u03b5> I'll be back on it when done with the cmake branch I think
21:35 <luke-jr> :/
21:35 <luke-jr> \u03b5: is it backward compatible?
21:36 <\u03b5> main thing remaining is to set what files to install
21:36 <\u03b5> eEvent?
21:36 <luke-jr> I guess
21:36 <\u03b5> not yet, it doesn't actually implement effects either
21:36 <luke-jr> ...
21:37 <luke-jr> I mean input
21:37 <luke-jr> like "brake", "+brake", "-brake" commands
21:37 <\u03b5> nothing of that has changed
21:37 <luke-jr> where "brake" is plugin-defined
21:37 <\u03b5> and I'm not sure I want to extend it to this point
21:37 <\u03b5> mh :)
21:37 <luke-jr> so I could do that? :p
21:38 <\u03b5> make sure to fill docs as you progress and make it OOP
21:38 <\u03b5> but atm it's in a really poor state
21:39 <luke-jr> O.o
21:39 <\u03b5> ie. you can't yet associate an action to a received event or w/e
21:39 <\u03b5> I was probably working on that
21:40 <luke-jr> O.o
21:40 <luke-jr> I just mean an abstracted binding system for input
21:40 <luke-jr> so ct|kyle can add a "drop" command, and players can setup bindings for it
21:41 <\u03b5> yeah, maybe another object would be more appropriate for that
21:41 <luke-jr> and older clients can use a "/drop" instachat to emulate it
21:42 <\u03b5> the first intent was something like "server sends flag_dropped" event and lets client choose what to do
21:43 <luke-jr> i c
21:43 <luke-jr> so your thing is mainly replacing the English string chat alerts with objects/messages
21:43 <\u03b5> exactly
21:43 <luke-jr> ... why did z-man make commits to Svn after we moved to Bzr? :/
21:44  * luke-jr decided to instead work on fixing the Bazaar migration
21:44 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: sorry :p
21:44 <\u03b5> yeah, I remember, I don't want to do something that starts from "key pressed"
21:45 <luke-jr> 835 MB svndump
21:45 <\u03b5> so yeah, keep eEvent for stuff that was using English strings before
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21:48 <Lizmatic> what a gay!
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22:13 <z-man> luke-jr: because we didn't 'move' to bzr, we migrated slowly, that's why we're still syncing both ways. I have several checkouts on several systems and no reason to wipe them out and replace them all with bzr branches.
22:15 <luke-jr> I see.
22:16 <luke-jr> z-man: well, I'm looking into trying to get the history fixed up :p
22:16 <z-man> Oh, good luck :) What are you trying?
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22:17 <luke-jr> z-man: by hand at the moment :/
22:17 <luke-jr> or rather
22:17 <luke-jr> splitting the svndump back into CVS repositories first
22:17 <luke-jr> and processing those one by one
22:18 <luke-jr> not sure how I'll do the really-was-Subversion revisions
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22:19 <z-man> Hmm, we started using 'svn mv' and stuff after the switch to svn, how does that fit into CVS?
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22:46 <luke-jr> z-man: you mean into Bzr?
22:47 <z-man> That, too, but you mentioned you'd import stuff back into CVS, so I was wondering.
22:59 <luke-jr> no
22:59 <luke-jr> just cutting the Svn dump up
22:59 <luke-jr> piece 1: original Armagetron CVS
22:59 <luke-jr> piece 2: ArmagetronAD CVS
23:00 <luke-jr> piece 3: ArmagetronAD Subversion
23:00 <luke-jr> piece 4: hybrid Subversion/Bazaar
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00:51 <luke-jr> z-man-work: this might actually require a custom repository format :/
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00:59 <luke-jr> z-man-work: or, as someone just suggested to me, a script to convert old bzr branches
00:59 <luke-jr> if we need to choose one tree over the other, do we retain trunk or 0.2.8 file-ids?
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02:33 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: ping
02:34 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: just curious if you have done anything for command triggers or what
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03:17 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: nope, was working on bzr fixups
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04:08 <luke-jr> z-man-work: is there a reason we use Bazaar over Git?
04:20 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: would what you fixing be something to do with
04:20 <ct|kyle> Error: Error in void sn_DisconnectUser(int, const tOutput&, nServerInfoBase*) in network/nNetwork.cpp:3201 :
04:20 <ct|kyle>         Client tried to disconnect from another client: impossible and a bad idea.
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11:02 <\u03b5> love drama in a ban drama thread. Only in armagetron.
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12:44 <Vanhayes> a few years ago there was barely any drama on the forums, and if there was it would be months before anymore came up. now there is a drama thread every other week
12:52  * eddiefantastic understands z-man's comments some time ago regarding the benefits of keeping the arma community small :S
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13:19 <wrtlprnft> maybe we need a lot of small incompatible forks of armagetronad that don't know about each other. That way we could have a lot of people with very little drama :-P
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13:20 <wrtlprnft> eddiefantastic: your kid could theorethically cheat by answering 49 easy addition questions and then changing the uri to division and answering the final question :-P
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13:36 <eddiefantastic> wrtlprnft: shhh :S
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14:04 <eddiefantastic> luke-jr: I have a trunk client now, but your spinning square map doesn't work because the main repo is down
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14:24 <eddiefantastic> luke-jr: working now
14:31 <guru3> i wonder if it's possible to have two forums sharing user accounts
14:36 <wrtlprnft> i'm sure you can do some voodoo sql magic to link two tables
14:36 <wrtlprnft> so they think they have their own users tabe each but really don't
14:36 <guru3> i was thinking of php voodoo to slave one install to the other
14:36 <guru3> but you've got a good idea too
14:37 <wrtlprnft> :-)
14:38 <guru3> i'm wondering if another semi-official armagetron forum might be an OK idea
14:39 <wrtlprnft> can't you hack together a special view that only shows a subset of the actual forums?
14:40 <guru3> hmmm
14:40 <guru3> that's also an interesting idea
14:40 <guru3> only a few things would need real changes
14:41 <guru3> the index page, the search page
14:41 <wrtlprnft> i just wonder what you intend to gain from this over just making another category for inofficial stuff
14:41 <guru3> forum view pages and drop downs
14:41 <wrtlprnft> i don't think it will prevent people from carrying things from one forum to another
14:41 <guru3> well, it's a bit silly of me
14:41 <guru3> but i'd rather not have to read some of this crap
14:42 <wrtlprnft> heh, that i understand
14:42 <guru3> and while out of sight out of mind might not be a brilliant idea
14:42 <wrtlprnft> treat it the same as the other languages subforum?
14:42 <guru3> hmm
14:43 <wrtlprnft> it probably won't be much more readable anyhow :-P
14:43 <guru3> yeah but by still keeping it on there i worry about the first impression that might be made to new community members
14:44 <wrtlprnft> ah, i see
14:44 <guru3> if i was me 6 years ago going to found an armagetron community and saw that shit
14:44 <guru3> i wouldn't do it again
14:44 <wrtlprnft> maybe a special user setting, “I want to see stupid crap”, in the profile?
14:44 <guru3> that would tie in with the seperate views idea
14:45 <wrtlprnft> but it wouldn't be all that separate anymore, if you were interested in both you wouldn't have the hassle of two different forums
14:45 <guru3> true
14:45 <guru3> i was sort of thinking though that the second forum could be put in community hands rather than developer hands
14:46 <guru3> only you know, keeping it secure from stupid community hacking attempts
14:46 <wrtlprnft> well, you could assign your own moderators to that other forum, and for adding/removing/renaming forums they would just have to go through you
14:47 <guru3> so perhaps something more like a re-organization of the forums
14:49 <wrtlprnft> i mean, i wouldn't want to host a forum and not intend to read it at all for legal reasons
14:50 <guru3> i see your point
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15:25 <Vanhayes_> #cfg limit
15:25 <armabot> Vanhayes_: LIMIT_ROUNDS: End the match after this number of rounds (default: 10) || LIMIT_SCORE: End the match when a player reaches this score (default: 100) || LIMIT_TIME: End the match after this number of minutes (default: 30) || SP_LIMIT_ROUNDS: End the match after this number of rounds in single player mode (default: 10) || SP_LIMIT_SCORE: End the match when a player reaches this score in single player mode (1 more message)
15:25 <Vanhayes_> #more
15:25 <armabot> Vanhayes_: (default: 100000) || SP_LIMIT_TIME: End the match after this number of minutes in single player mode (default: 30) || WORD_DELIMITERS: Characters that count as word delimiters when skipping over words in a text input field. (default: !?.:;_()-, )
15:27 <\u03b5> I did that once guru3
15:27 <AI-team> so if I change the way passwords are stored in the database wouldnt this mean , that users cant login anymore?
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15:29 <\u03b5> AI-team, you need to store them in additional ways
15:33 <\u03b5> ie put hooks when the user logs in, registers, changes his password/username to store the other password formats
15:33 <\u03b5> in a different field of the db
15:36 <AI-team> ok
15:43 <armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-old-glancing] r767 Merge from trunk || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r941 Fixed build for when authentication is not enabled || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r940 Don't crash when a map contains an effect that isn't registe...
15:43 <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [armagetronad-old-glancing] r767 Merge from trunk || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r941 Fixed build for when authentication is not enabled || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r940 Don't crash when a map contains an effect that isn't registe...
15:45 <\u03b5> armabot, list rss
15:45 <armabot> \u03b5: 0.3.1, add, announce add, announce list, announce remove, armaannounce, armablah, armacommits, armawiki, ftsfeedback, info, lpbugs, reddit, remove, rss, sty, and sty+ct
15:45 <\u03b5> armabot, rss announce remove armacommits
15:45 <armabot> \u03b5: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
15:45 <\u03b5> armabot, whoami
15:45 <armabot> \u03b5: I don't recognize you.
15:45 <\u03b5> hrm
15:47 <\u03b5> armabot, rss announce remove armacommits
15:47 <armabot> \u03b5: The operation succeeded.
16:05 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9277 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/tron/zone/zEffector.cpp): Daniel Lee Harple: Don't crash when a map contains an effect that isn't registered.
16:06 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9278 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/ePlayer.cpp src/engine/eTeam.cpp): Daniel Lee Harple: Fixed build for when authentication is not enabled
16:06 <\u03b5> gah
16:07 <dlh> heh
16:28 <\u03b5> jeez
16:28 <\u03b5> as soon as you use twisted you need your whole app to use it
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16:40 <\u03b5> $$$$ @ guru3's new avatar ;>
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18:57 <i2020> breep
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19:02 <Concord> yo i2020
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19:06 <i2020> hey concord
19:06 <Concord> we beat pru 146-90 with 6 v 7 by the end of the match
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19:07 <Concord> and have ds in about 40 min
19:07 <Concord> *50
19:07 <luke-jr> eddiefantastic: the main repo is never down
19:07 <i2020> oh
19:07 <luke-jr> guru3: I would aim for using Global ID for forums ;)
19:07 <i2020> didn't notice
19:07 <i2020> you need another player or what?
19:09 <Concord> we had space for one :)
19:11 <i2020> missed this fixture on the forum...
19:13 <i2020> heheh i am on the list :s
19:13 <i2020> i guess we need some kind of notification when a date is actually settled
19:13 <i2020> sorry about that
19:13 <pikey> hey
19:14 <pikey> when do incam tourney start?
19:14 <pikey> 18 or 19gmt?
19:14 <i2020> hmmm... wondering that myself pikey
19:14 <i2020> originally it was 19gmt
19:15 <pikey> ct has fpl match at 19:30
19:15 <i2020> did we switch it to 18gmt?
19:15 <pikey> thats why i asked :)
19:15 <i2020> gads...
19:16 <pikey> its 19:00 on wiki
19:16 <pikey> so i guess it should stay
19:16 <i2020> it's every hour
19:16 <i2020> so try to make it sometime :)
19:17 <i2020> its an informal thing...
19:17 <i2020> though would be nice to have voice chat and laugh about it
19:17 <pikey> ok
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19:17 <i2020> but my flatmates are up and about and digging into the broadband
19:17 <pikey> heh
19:18 <PieGoesMoo> OMG, Hi
19:18 <pikey> vmy i-net goes down often during ladles
19:18 <pikey> oh noes
19:18 <pikey> vhi
19:18 <i2020> my ping is shot to fuck
19:18 <PieGoesMoo> OMG, teehee
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19:27 <i2020> concord: where's the game?
19:27 <Concord> FPL DS
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19:33 <Vanhayes_> #time
19:33 <armabot> Vanhayes_: 07:33 PM, October 11, 2009
19:33 <Vanhayes_> that can't be gmt
19:34 <Vanhayes_> .time
19:34 <tronner> Vanhayes_: 07:34 PM, October 11, 2009
19:34 <Vanhayes_> bah
19:34 <\u03b5> #gmtime
19:34 <\u03b5> #list time
19:34 <armabot> \u03b5: at, ctime, elapsed, seconds, time, and until
19:35 <\u03b5> :<
19:37 <Vanhayes_> hmm it should be 5 36 gmt but im not sure if thats with daylight savings or not
19:37 <Vanhayes_> maybe 6 36
19:40 <G5> Any PLUS here? Do we have a match today?
19:41 <i2020> yup
19:41 <i2020> against ds in 20 mins
19:41 <i2020> at ds
19:41 <G5> Aha ... there is nothing in the calendar (server reservations) ... strange
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20:17 <i2020> weird
20:17 <i2020> chaos on the grid
20:25 <sinewav> i2020: what happened in the match?
20:25 <i2020> ds were down 140 40 or some such after 13 mins of play
20:25 <i2020> suddenly the game was reset
20:25 <i2020> everybody was asking what was going on
20:26 <i2020> and in the same round most of the ds players left...
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20:26 <i2020> very odd indeed
20:26 <i2020> internally, plus were going for a high score to counter our points-balance
20:27 <sinewav> ok, we'll have to look at the logs.
20:27 <i2020> i was looking at plus' defence, so i don't know what was happening at the front.. but plus were on form... i guess there might have been a few centre attacks which rattles any team
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20:28 <i2020> incam in 30, sinewav ?
20:28 <sinewav> yes
20:28 <i2020> cool
20:28 <pikey> do u know why "recent activity" window on fpl page doesnt work?
20:29 <i2020> nope
20:30 <sinewav> who owns that FPL server, so we can get the logs? anyone know?
20:30 <pikey> it was Ds
20:34 <pikey> meh
20:34 <pikey> i thought it'd be a nice league...
20:35 <ct|kyle> sinewav: everything should be set for incam, good luck, I gtg again
20:35 <sinewav> thanks kyle man
20:44 <Vanhayes_> #si incam
20:44 <armabot> Vanhayes_: InCam Fortress Tourney (Ct's [EU]): Players (0/32):
20:45 <Vanhayes_> sinewav, i2020 which server eu or USA?
20:47 <sinewav> USA USA! chant with me... USA!
20:48 <i2020> collect in us... and i guess it happens there for the first hour
20:48 <i2020> we can always change on the hour
20:48 <Vanhayes_> ok
20:49 <Vanhayes_> i like the new attacking bots, need to try that out in smartcam sometime
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20:56 <i2020> incam tounrament in 5 mins
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21:15 <PieGoesMoo> Teehee
21:15 <PieGoesMoo> Er...hi?
21:16 <\u03b5> NO HI
21:18 <PieGoesMoo> why no hi?
21:21 <\u03b5> why not
21:21 <sunnygirl> :D
21:22 <sunnygirl> "[21:21] armabot: Sent 2 years, 11 weeks, 6 days, 6 hours, and 43 minutes ago: <Monkey_arma> i have arranged a practice match against x clan tomorrow (sunday) at 4GMT (work this out in German time)........"
21:22 <sunnygirl> oO
21:23 <\u03b5> you gotta be there TOMORROW
21:23 <noob13> haha
21:23 <noob13> man, i miss Monkey_arma
21:24 <\u03b5> I seriousely don't
21:24 <noob13> i know
21:25 <Vanhayes_> i miss the first monkey i met
21:25 <Vanhayes_> I used to just yell DANCE MONKEY DANCE over and over at him
21:25 <Vanhayes_> or sing brass monkey to him
21:26 <noob13> >)
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21:26 <noob13> should we get a fort match going?
21:27 <noob13> seems like everyone is taking part in some tourney tonight
21:27 <noob13> except me.
21:27 <\u03b5> I am not either
21:27 <noob13> and possibly Vanhayes_ ? :)
21:27 <noob13> and sunnygirl ? :)
21:28 <Vanhayes_> i am in incam
21:28 <sunnygirl> mh
21:29 <sunnygirl>  i talk part in the ds vs plus disaster
21:29 <\u03b5> let's talk part people
21:29 <sunnygirl> take...
21:29 <\u03b5> what is said is said and you gotta be there vs x tomorrow.
21:30 <Vanhayes_> well tommorow isnt sunday so...
21:30 <sunnygirl> ^^
21:33 <Vanhayes_> #seen ghab
21:33 <armabot> Vanhayes_: I have not seen ghab.
21:34 <Vanhayes_> #seen ghableska
21:34 <armabot> Vanhayes_: ghableska was last seen in #armagetron 1 year, 16 weeks, 5 days, 4 hours, 8 minutes, and 20 seconds ago: <ghableska> oh hi monkey
21:34 <Vanhayes_> oh ya I forgot that anyone who mentions monkey gets disappeared
21:35 <luke-jr> monkey
21:36 <noob13> does anyone know if he still plays from time to time?
21:37 <\u03b5> Vanhayes_, he played today
21:37 <Vanhayes_> marking his next victoms
21:37 <\u03b5> but didn't say anything to "hows the weather"
21:38 <\u03b5> ;<
21:38 <Vanhayes_> it is cold
21:38 <\u03b5> ]weather paris
21:38 <ljrbot> It's freaking hot there.
21:38 <Vanhayes_> had -5ish temp this morning, had to scrap frost off the car
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21:39 <noob13> -3 C here right now :|
21:39 <\u03b5> cehnehdeh will always be cehnehdeh
21:39 <noob13> getting colder every day
21:44 <Vanhayes_> well the incam was fun
21:46 <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1149 Improved master server random polling, the second polled mas... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1148 Storing server score between visits to the master list and p...
21:47 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9279 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/network/nServerInfo.cpp): Manuel Moos: Storing server score between visits to the master list and polling higher scored servers first.
21:48 <sinewav> yeah, it was a blasy
21:48 <sinewav> `blast*
21:49 <Vanhayes_> it just looks hilarious if you are spectating in another camera mode
21:49 <i2020> love it when there is voice...
21:49 <i2020> gotta check my mumble settings
21:49 <i2020> really contageous when we hear people call out with surprise
21:50 <i2020> thanks sine
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21:50 <cusco> hi
21:50 <noob13> hi
21:50 <cusco> hi noob
21:50 <cusco> :D
21:50 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9280 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. NEWS src/network/nServerInfo.cpp): Manuel Moos: Improved master server random polling, the second polled master now also is random, and all masters are polled if need be
21:50 <i2020> i have to learn what all the admin code is to lock teams etc, sinewav ... where do i find that stuff out... and how to authenticate
21:50 <noob13> .urbandict cusco
21:50 <tronner> noob13: Definition: City in Peru. Used to be the capital of the Inca Empire. Example: Cusco's mad wack, yo.
21:51 <cusco> :D
21:52 <noob13> i2020: /login <username>@forums , /lock :P
21:52 <\u03b5> http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=19031&start=0
21:54 <Vanhayes_> if you have a newer version you can set it up so all you have to do is type your password
21:54 <i2020> um what app do i need to open that up?
21:55 <\u03b5> just click the image
21:55 <i2020> what password? for what?
21:55 <\u03b5> the other file is there if you want to edit it(it's an SVG)
21:55 <i2020> cool, thanks \u03b5
21:55 <\u03b5> Vanhayes_ is talking about letting your client log in automatically
21:55 <i2020> i use 0.3
21:55 <\u03b5> 0.3.0 ?
21:56 <Vanhayes_> that should have it i think
21:56 <\u03b5> nope
21:56 <Vanhayes_> the latest alpha, made in january or the one thats a few years old?
21:56 <i2020> yup, 0.3.0
21:56 <\u03b5> the one that's a few years old, 0.3.0
21:56 <i2020> where's the new one?
21:57 <i2020> mac?
21:57 <Vanhayes_> should be one on sourceforge, though im not sure if they have one for mac
21:57 <i2020> boo
21:57 <\u03b5> ask lizm-
21:57 <\u03b5> -not there
21:58 <Vanhayes_> http://sourceforge.net/projects/armagetronad/files/    Don't see one for mac there
21:58 <luke-jr> cuz mac sucks
21:58 <Vanhayes_> wait it might be there im not sure what . mac uses?
21:58 <\u03b5> dmg
21:59 <luke-jr> .......
21:59 <i2020> guess i shall have to wait :)
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22:14 <noob13> !sd fort
22:14 <noob13> .sd fort
22:14 <tronner> noob13: SpeedeRs (Ladle Fortress): Players (16/32): -*insa*-, -»|FoFo (-\"|fofo@L_OP), -»|MeZu, -»|olive, -»|slash (slashy@forums), -»|Xyron, CtxWoned, CT_emphasis (emphasis@ct/leader), IZZI FO SHIZ <3, PsYkO (PsYkO@forums), Vanhayes, |F@ll3N, ~*akira*~ (akira@forums), ~*Delta*~ (~*Delta*~@ct/public), ~*DiStoRt*~ (DiStoRt@forums), ~*Flex*~ (Flex@forums)
22:14 <noob13> hm..
22:14 <\u03b5> pygamequery is getting relatively usable now :))
22:15 <\u03b5> at least for querying one server of which you know the IP
22:16  * luke-jr ponders a program that transforms code
22:17 <luke-jr> Python in, PHP out
22:17 <luke-jr> :p
22:17 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r9281 /armagetronad/tags/0.2.8.3_rc4/: Tagging rc4.
22:17 <\u03b5> dunno how pluggable python is with html
22:17 <\u03b5> er
22:17 <\u03b5> php
22:18 <\u03b5> but I doubt it would work well in mod_php due to twisted's stuff ( threading mayhem perhaps )
22:18 <luke-jr> ew, it's twisted, not Python? :p
22:19 <\u03b5> not yet :s
22:19 <\u03b5> I've been told from #python regulars to TTimo that twisted was awesome
22:20 <\u03b5> each day i used it I wanted to kill it more
22:20 <\u03b5> anyways, you probably don't want to use pygamequery directly within your webpage
22:21 <\u03b5> you probably want some daemon in the background that would use pygamequery to cache servers then the web UI that uses it
22:21 <i2020> where are the 0.3 files? can't see them anywhere
22:21 <\u03b5> sourceforge hopefully
22:21 <Vanhayes_> it is under arma testing or experimental
22:21 <i2020> ah
22:24 <i2020> oo too tricky... i got to install it or some such...
22:25 <luke-jr> there's no recent 0.3 for Windows
22:25 <\u03b5> well, we can consider them all outdated
22:26 <Vanhayes_> the most recent one on there is over 6 months old
22:28 <luke-jr> \u03b5: the last Windows build didn't support protobuf
22:28 <\u03b5> yeah, I heard a lot of follow-ups on that one
22:29 <luke-jr> ?
22:29 <\u03b5> load of complaints on no protobuf-aware build for windows
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22:54 <\u03b5> K-Yo, j'avance :))
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23:04 <PieGoesMoo> Hello
23:04 <K-Yo> \u03b5, t'as pas retiré toutes les merdes dans les noms
23:05 <K-Yo> ./gamequery --full ping xx.xx.xx.xx:xx m'affiche le nom avec les 0x######
23:05 <\u03b5> oui
23:05 <\u03b5> c'est volontaire
23:05 <\u03b5> tu veux juste connaitre les noms des joueurs?
23:06 <PieGoesMoo> Hello?
23:06 <\u03b5> hi PieGoesMoo
23:06 <\u03b5> WE CAN HEAR YOU
23:06 <K-Yo> hi PieGoesMoo
23:06 <PieGoesMoo> Hello epsy and K-Yo
23:06 <\u03b5>  $ gamequery --format "{name} ({player_count}/{player_max}): {players}" ping ctos
23:07 <\u03b5> c'est pas brillant brillant mais ça marche
23:07 <K-Yo> ok
23:08 <PieGoesMoo> OMG
23:09 <\u03b5> what? you're another french fanboy?
23:10 <PinkTomato> PieGoesMoo, ?
23:12 <PieGoesMoo> OMG
23:12 <PinkTomato> PieGoesMoo, you do a very good job in expressing yourself...........
23:12 <\u03b5> or at attention-seeking :>
23:13 <PieGoesMoo> How's that, PinkTomato and epsy?
23:13 <\u03b5> what are you OMG'ing at?
23:13 <PieGoesMoo> nothing
23:13 <\u03b5> K-Yo, tu peux changer le format ar défaut :)
23:14 <\u03b5> copie pygamequery/defaults.cfg vers ~/.pygamequery/pygamequery.cfg
23:14 <PinkTomato> PieGoesMoo, by saying one word, we are not understanding what you are trying to imply.
23:14 <\u03b5> et édite :P
23:14 -!- G5 [n=G5@cl-506.dus-01.de.sixxs.net] has quit []
23:14 <PinkTomato> hence /s
23:14 <\u03b5> maybe it's the purpose
23:14 <PieGoesMoo> me is not trying to impliment anything
23:15 <\u03b5> anyways, good night
23:15 <PinkTomato> PieGoesMoo, so... you did a very good job at attention seeking then :p
23:15 <PinkTomato> night \u03b5 :)
23:15 <PieGoesMoo> PinkTomato, yeah
23:15 <PieGoesMoo> \u03b5: night
23:16 <PieGoesMoo> TEEHEE
23:17 <K-Yo> later \u03b5
23:17 <\u03b5> wrtlprnft, don't do this kind of magic to disappear!
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23:17 <PieGoesMoo> --OmG nothin'
23:19 <PieGoesMoo> <O>|M|<G>
23:19 <noob13> .sd fortress
23:19 <tronner> noob13: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate\'s Mega Fortress: Players (1/32): /dev/null/h4ck
23:20 <K-Yo> .si tx
23:20 <tronner> K-Yo: Ladle 26 (The Server Pharm TX): Players (0/32):
23:20 <K-Yo> .ls k-yo
23:20 <tronner> K-Yo: cT¤K-Yo has last been seen on FPL>>Twi¦×¦ted ¦×¦ats [NY] 1 minute ago.
23:20 <K-Yo> noob13,
23:21 <noob13> .sd fpl
23:21 <tronner> noob13: FPL>>Twi¦×¦ted ¦×¦ats [NY]: Players (7/32): *<|:I k-yo (Mkay1@forums), Arsin, cT¤K-Yo (K-Yo@ct/jedi), CtxWoned, Player 1, Student, swest
23:21 <noob13> a cheers
23:21 <PieGoesMoo> .si .x]
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23:25 <noob13> well that was fun while it lasted
23:25 <z-man> You and me have very different ideas of fun.
23:27 <noob13> i was referring to fortress :P
23:27 <noob13> and inteded to sound sarchastic
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00:45 <ct|kyle> sinewav: how did it go?
00:46 <sinewav> oh it was super fun
00:47 <sinewav> most of Plus was there, so it was Plus vs. me and the rest.
00:47 <sinewav> Plus won.
00:47 <sinewav> 2-0
00:47 <sinewav> I can't wait to do it again.
00:48 <sinewav> I could have seriously used you on my team though...
00:50 <ct|kyle> sinewav: heh, maybe in another month :)
00:52 <sinewav> I think everyone had fun, it's should go over well in the future.
01:01 <i2020> for sure
01:02 <ct|kyle> so how many were there?
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01:30 <i2020> we had 6v6 at one point i think... but 5v5 for most of it :)
01:30 <i2020> thanks for the set up :)
01:55 <ct|kyle> i2020: no problem, pretty easy, just used the ladle  settings with the 0.3 add-ons and custom cameras blocked :)
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07:44 <wrtlprnft> #later tell *03b5* what kind of magic?
07:44 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
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11:02 <Vanhayes> http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=19678&start=90&p=213013&view=show#p213013 <---- Ha that was me
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--- Log opened Mon Oct 12 14:40:56 2009
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15:52 <K-Yo> hello, has any of you a way to contact Word? (IM preferably, I know how PMs work thanks =))
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17:08 <\u03b5> I wonder if zman is joking about 0.2.8.3.1
17:16 <K-Yo> \u03b5, when typing /players, if there's an authority level that has colors in it, does the closing parenthesis get colour resetted?
17:16 <K-Yo> I just noticed that in a server and dunno if it was recent or not
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17:18 <\u03b5> there is a color reset yes, for hidden players
17:18 <\u03b5> since it shows them as grey
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17:24 <K-Yo> yeah
17:26 <K-Yo> but I mean, if you set owners as "0xff0000superman", will it be "xxx@xxx ( 0xff0000Superman 0xRESETT)\n " or  "xxx@xxx ( 0xff0000Superman )\n"
17:26 <K-Yo> for non hidden ones
17:26 <K-Yo> \u03b5,
17:27 <\u03b5> I said there was
17:28 <K-Yo> \u03b5> there is a color reset yes, for hidden players
17:28 <K-Yo> but for non hidden ones?
17:28 <\u03b5> armabot: m wrtlprnft [22:53] * wrtlprnft_ [n=wrtlprnf@83.243.117.49.dynamic.cablesurf.de] a rejoint #armagetron[22:54] * armabot [n=armabot@83.243.117.49] a quitté (Nick collision from services.)[22:54] * armabot` [n=armabot@83.243.117.49.dynamic.cablesurf.de] a rejoint #armagetron[22:55] * armabot` s'appelle maintenant armabot[22:55] * wrtlprnft [n=wrtlprnf@83.243.117.49.dynamic.cablesurf.de] a quitté (Nick collision from services.)[22:55] * wrtlp
17:28 <\u03b5> rnft_ s'appelle maintenant wrtlprnft
17:28 <armabot> \u03b5: The operation succeeded.
17:28 <\u03b5> :o
17:29 <\u03b5> K-Yo, it is applies regardless i think
17:29 <K-Yo> okay
17:29 <\u03b5> but you should better put a color reset anyway
17:29 <\u03b5> you never know
17:29 <K-Yo> i'll test on a recent version
17:29 <K-Yo> I just saw it didn't not work on prutopolic
17:29 <K-Yo> s*
17:29 <K-Yo> .si -v prutopolis
17:29 <tronner> K-Yo: -=Prutopolis=- -=Capture The Flag=- (62.141.42.171:4534) (bammestechtalk.de) running 0.2.8-sty+ct_alpha20090511 unix dedicated, url: www.trongame.de, Description: ““, Players (0/10):
17:30 <K-Yo> sty+ct bouh!
17:40 <K-Yo> .si -v whalenut
17:40 <tronner> K-Yo: There doesn\'t seem to be a server matching “whalenut” at the moment, sorry
17:40 <K-Yo> Concord,
17:41 <Concord> whalehunt
17:41 <Concord> .si -v whalehunt
17:41 <tronner> Concord: The Whalehunt! (94.23.36.9:4539) (rps5432.ovh.net) running 0.2.8-sty+ct_alpha20091011 unix dedicated, Description: “Hosted by TheServerPharm Still in“, Players (8/16): -=VcL.TaZ, .×] Hoax, .pRu.Ãí, .pRu|Word, Concord, fingerbib, Player 1, Pre
17:42 <K-Yo> my bad =)
17:49 <Concord> back up
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18:18 <wrtlprnft_> \u03b5: i got disconnected, so what?
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18:18 <wrtlprnft> armabot does it all by herself, i do it if i'm there
18:23 <\u03b5> ah
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18:47 <sinewav> sup Conc.
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19:06 <Concord> sup
19:06 <Concord> sine_awave: the whalehunt is up
19:06 <Concord> we had some 4v4 games
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19:45 <Concord> sinewav: have time to come play?
19:45 <sinewav> yeah, 2 min...
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21:22 <noob13> .sd fortress
21:22 <tronner> noob13: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate\'s Mega Fortress: Players (11/32): -=}ID< Tremor, -»|mya, .pRu|mufo, .pRu|Word, brick, byte, Hos, p0p3, Player 1, Player 2, Sandglass
21:24 <K-Yo> .servers
21:24 <tronner> K-Yo: This data is 165 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (12/12), ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress (11/32), |FA| Black Tar! (9/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (8/10), The YELLOW Submarine (7/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (7/14), ..D.o.g.F.i.g.h.t.. (6/8), Wild West  =Sumo= (6/16), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (6/12), WILDCAT (4/8), ~Wild Night~ (3/10), { Destruktive Beauty } (3/8), Swampland Mud (1 more message)
21:24 <K-Yo> .si flag
21:24 <tronner> K-Yo: Wild West  =Capture The Flag=: Players (8/10): -=ReN{Clumsy}=-, -=}ID< Çs©ål, 808 STATE, @, ¢§§7¡, Kingcreole, L3NNy, pogo
21:37 <\u03b5> happy birthday evaldusia :))
21:37 <evaldusia> Thanks :)
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21:49 <evaldusia> i started to feel old wth
21:49 <evaldusia> lol
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22:06 <\u03b5> haha :D
22:09 <K-Yo> .si whale
22:09 <tronner> K-Yo: The Whalehunt!: Players (3/16): Concord, cT¤K-Yo, ct|pike
22:11 <ct|kyle> hmm, can't get resource
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22:25 <K-Yo> ct|kyle, can't get what resource?
22:25 <K-Yo> whalehunt?
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22:32 <ct|kyle> .cfg2 wingman
22:32 <tronner> ct|kyle: Sorry, no matches :S
22:32 <ct|kyle> .cfg2 wing
22:32 <tronner> ct|kyle: SPAWN_WINGMEN_BACK: Determines how much each wingman is placed backwards in a team. (Default: 2.2029) || SPAWN_WINGMEN_SIDE: Determines how much each wingman is placed sidewards in a team. (Default: 2.75362)
22:32 <K-Yo> .cfg3 wing
22:32 <tronner> K-Yo: SPAWN_WINGMEN_BACK: Determines how much each wingman is placed backwards in a team. (Default: 2.2029) || SPAWN_WINGMEN_SIDE: Determines how much each wingman is placed sidewards in a team. (Default: 2.75362)
22:32 <K-Yo> mate
22:32 <K-Yo> rlater
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22:36 <\u03b5> .sd -v whale
22:36 <tronner> \u03b5: The Whalehunt! (94.23.36.9:4539) (rps5432.ovh.net) running 0.2.8-sty+ct_alpha20091011 unix dedicated, Description: “Hosted by TheServerPharm Still in“, Players (7/16): anønym7, caKe, Concord, ct¤kyle, fake_epsy, jedi.swiss, POCO
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03:15 <luke-jr> where is master server 1?
03:25 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: it's one of guru3's
03:46 <luke-jr> :p
03:47 <luke-jr> whoa
03:47 <luke-jr> my new customer's house is up for sale
03:47 <luke-jr> $489k
03:47 <luke-jr> :O
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06:06 <ct|kyle> Don't you just love it when you can't change page layout w/o a printer on MS
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15:43 <akira_arma> O.o
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16:38 <Vanhayes> si fort
16:38 <Vanhayes> #si for
16:38 <Vanhayes> #si forr
16:38 <Vanhayes> #si fort
16:38 <armabot> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: Players (8/14): *SuckasaMikasa*, -BS-DrHouse, Centrurøide_§, Hell'sAngel, matrix, modis, Player 11, WithGlasses
16:38 <armabot> Vanhayes: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “forr” at the moment, sorry.
16:38 <armabot> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: Players (8/14): *SuckasaMikasa*, -BS-DrHouse, Centrurøide_§, Hell'sAngel, matrix, modis, Player 11, WithGlasses
16:40 <Vanhayes> #si ds
16:40 <armabot> Vanhayes: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress: Players (3/32): noob13, p0p3, Vanhayes
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18:39 <madmax> hi
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18:42 <\u03b5> hi
18:46 <K-Yo> hi
18:47 <luke-jr> O HAI THAR
18:47 <\u03b5> OH NOES
18:48  * K-Yo slaps luke-jr 
18:49 <K-Yo> .slap luke-jr 2
18:49  * tronner slaps luke-jr around with the ancient, small bottle
18:49  * tronner slaps luke-jr around with a casted staff
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19:10 <Jip> hi
19:11 <Jip> somebody up for fortres?
19:13 <akira_arma> .as
19:13 <tronner> akira_arma: This data is 92 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (11/12), The YELLOW Submarine (10/12), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (8/12), ~Wild Night~ (7/10), WILDCAT (5/8), Swampland Mud Puddle (5/8), SPACEZONE II S (5/15), Flower Power Sumo Assault (5/12), Chico's Brake Boost Styball (4/8), Norm's Home (4/12), |FA| Black Tar! (3/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (Europe) (3/10), Crazy Tronners Wild (1 more message)
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19:30 <akira_arma> Uk lawmakers must be really paranoid
19:31 <akira_arma> registry for all persons in contact with children
19:31 <akira_arma> O.o
19:33 <akira_arma> this whole preemptive strike mentality is such a fail
19:35 <noob13> .sd fortress
19:35 <tronner> noob13: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: Players (6/14): aok yoshy (aok\\_yoshy@ct/public), elastic, killerbees19 (killerbees19@forums), maño, matrix, {APF}L+*~O+*~L
19:35 <noob13> .as
19:35 <tronner> noob13: This data is 19 seconds old; The YELLOW Submarine (11/12), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (10/12), Flower Power Sumo Assault (9/12), ~Wild Night~ (7/10), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (Europe) (6/10), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (6/14), WILDCAT (5/8), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (4/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (3/10), SPACEZONE II S (3/15), |FA| Black Tar! (2/16), SPACEZONE III (2/15), -  [ Nano's (1 more message)
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20:14 <Vanhayes> .as
20:14 <tronner> Vanhayes: This data is 16 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (13/14), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (11/12), The YELLOW Submarine (11/12), ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress (9/32), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (Europe) (8/10), ~Wild Night~ (6/10), WILDCAT (5/8), ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ|   .dBd| Nano's Zombie DF!   | (5/10), -  [ Nano's Playground | Nano Standard ]  -         . (5/8), .:Pls Res Us!:. .:Téàm DF:. (1 more message)
20:15 <Vanhayes> .si ds
20:15 <tronner> Vanhayes: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate\'s Mega Fortress: Players (9/32): -»|slash, .×] Hoax, .×] PlayerNuby, Bellum (steam@forums), ct|pike (pike@ct/junior), free kill (dlh@generalconsumption.org), Longball|mbc (Longballlasch@ct/public), Player 98 (Olive@forums), Sandglass
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21:00 <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r942 Fixed typo....
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21:30 <AshitakA>  hello?
21:30 <AshitakA>  someone knows what's up with the pickup room?
21:32 <AshitakA>  maybe luke-jr?
21:33 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9282 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/eTeam.cpp): epsy: Fixed typo.
21:34 <P4> AshitakA: afaik it's been suspended due to leak of life :þ
21:37 <AshitakA>  so its gone forever?
21:39 <P4> 10Oct09 222103 <\u03b5> idk, maybe I'll relaunch it
21:39 <AshitakA>  would be nice, I liked it, even there were not enough people
21:39 <P4> so did i
21:41 <AshitakA>  so, if it doesnt makes problems just let it be, maybe somedays it will get fuller
21:42 <P4> 10Oct09 222010 <\u03b5> bah, it was dieing and I once raged.
21:42 <AshitakA>  tha main problem is, that its only good for those, who are in irc
21:43 <P4> yeh, that spreads irc among the tron world making it more popular (hopefuly) :D
21:43 <AshitakA>  it was a good reason to get people to irc
21:43 <P4> (:
21:44 <eddiefantastic> luke-jr: Hi There!
21:44 <P4> i wouldn't mind if it worked backwards, so getting tron more popular
21:44 <AshitakA>  and sometimes there were some good matches
21:45 <P4> maybe the Tron Legacy premiere is a good reason to promote ArmageTron a bit more :)
21:46 <eddiefantastic> P4: Pleaaaase, no more kids on the forums :S
21:49 <P4> what kids?
21:51 <eddiefantastic> oh, do you visit the arma forums lately?
21:51 <luke-jr> eddiefantastic: ...
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21:52 <eddiefantastic> ah, zones_v2, having a play
21:53 <eddiefantastic> I'm having to start from scratch, my old maps are too broken now
21:53 <eddiefantastic> I remember a large gripe I had with it before
21:54 <eddiefantastic> reusing shapes, what're the chances?
21:54 <P4> no, i don't visit forums at all :þ
21:54 <P4> maybe except the CT one
21:54 <P4> kids must be learnt if they don't know the netiquette or whatever else.
21:55 <P4> teached*?
21:55 <eddiefantastic> P4: taught. And you're right, but when they see others acting the same as them, they think they're normal
21:57 <P4> on arma forums? oO
21:57 <P4> clean it up then :þ
21:57 <eddiefantastic> luke-jr: eg. I create a fish shaped zone, and I want twelve of these fish zones on the grid. right now I have to give the coordinates of each fish twelve times, if I want to tweak this said fish, I have to make the changes twelve times
21:57 <luke-jr> eddiefantastic: true
21:57 <eddiefantastic> P4: arma forums, yes. But easier said than done
21:58 <luke-jr> eddiefantastic: we should support XML includes and shape XML files
21:58 <eddiefantastic> luke-jr: now that would be great. And very easy to reuse the same shape in multiple maps
21:59 <luke-jr> eddiefantastic: at the same time, we should abstract effect/visual more
21:59 <luke-jr> or at least enough that clients can support new functions without upgrades
22:00 <eddiefantastic> I'm starting to build simple maps to test things and I'm remembering just how time consuming the whole process is
22:00 <ct|kyle> eddiefantastic: copy and paste?
22:00 <luke-jr> lol
22:00 <eddiefantastic> mind you, I do build fairly complex maps
22:00 <ct|kyle> eddiefantastic: I see your point though
22:01 <luke-jr> perhaps polygon zones should require an external resource for the shape?
22:01 <luke-jr> I mean, kinda too late, but in the future...
22:01 <luke-jr> or better yet
22:01 <luke-jr> how about including mapA inside mapB
22:01 <eddiefantastic> luke-jr: a one off shape is fine, but right now I'm building four shapes that I may want to alter later
22:02 <luke-jr> then mapA can be only a zone entry
22:02 <luke-jr> and mapB can set scale/offset info
22:02 <luke-jr> I *think* that's doable without too much work
22:02 <eddiefantastic> anything that gives me more control over reusing shapes works for me
22:02 <luke-jr> who wants to do the map-embed branch? :p
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22:39 <Vanhayes> .as
22:39 <tronner> Vanhayes: This data is 14 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (13/14), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (12/12), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (11/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), |FA| Black Tar! (6/16), The YELLOW Submarine (6/12), SPACEZONE III (5/15), ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress (5/32), -=F²=- Fatal Force Loose DF Server (3/12), ~Wild Night~ (3/10), WILDCAT (3/8), Norm's Home (3/12), |FA| (1 more message)
22:39 <Vanhayes> .si ds
22:39 <tronner> Vanhayes: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate\'s Mega Fortress: Players (5/32): -*|420, -=}ID< Qi, .×] Hoax, Jip, Mikey
22:48 <eddiefantastic> luke-jr: I'm having real problems with what is supposed to work and what isn't with zones_v2. Most of http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Zones_v2 gives me validation errors, and that's the only documentation I know of
22:49 <eddiefantastic> I'm just segfaulting 9 times out of 10 until I stumble blindly upon something that works. It's very slow going here
22:49 <luke-jr> eddiefantastic: so forget documentation and read the current DTD
22:50 <luke-jr> it should never segfault
22:50 <eddiefantastic> Failed to validate
22:50 <eddiefantastic> Segmentation fault
22:50 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: any xml error seg faults
22:50 <luke-jr> fail
22:50 <eddiefantastic> I'm running from the client, not server
22:51 <eddiefantastic> load maps locally
22:51 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: and I posted a backtrace with the bug report
22:52 <eddiefantastic> :47: element Effect: validity error : Element Effect was declared EMPTY this one has content
22:52 <eddiefantastic>                                   </Effect>
22:52 <eddiefantastic>                                            ^
22:52 <eddiefantastic> Failed to validate
22:52 <eddiefantastic> Segmentation fault
22:52 <eddiefantastic> that was trying what was suggested from the wiki
22:52 <eddiefantastic> I will try to study the dtd
22:57 <eddiefantastic> time to go, I will try again another day. bye
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00:04 <luke-jr> eddiefantastic: that wiki page does not have a single complete example with <Effect> in it
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05:32 <ct|kyle> sinewav: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/hubble/program.html  you'll want to watch this tomorrow, it is amazing.
05:33 <sinewav> ok bookmarked. I'll be out at the bar tomorrow night, but maybe when I get back - or the next day.
05:33 <sinewav> thanks
05:36 <ct|kyle> I finally got to see what I have been wanting to see since the servicing mission, the hand rail come off
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10:59 <akira_arma> wth
10:59 <akira_arma> I missed a tron drama again ..
11:06 <wrtlprnft> akira_arma: well, wait for the next one
11:06 <wrtlprnft> they don't seem to be that rare
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14:29 <\u03b5> http://blog.thesilentnumber.me/2009/09/calling-all-foss-game-artists-and-free.html
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19:42 <\u03b5> still trying out xbox stuff z-man-windows ?
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20:04 <Yakumo> Lucifer ?
20:07 <\u03b5> he wants a wave invite
20:09 <Yakumo> i tried pm'ing and I was more polite than that, they don't seem to be in ...
20:10 <\u03b5> hmm, he posted about it on fb not too long ago
20:10 <\u03b5> you gave him your mail?
20:11 <Yakumo> nope, i was hoping for a reply first
20:11 <\u03b5> give it :)
20:11 <Yakumo> i don't want to pester the poor guy, I don't know them
20:11 <\u03b5> the poor guy eats people anyway
20:12 <Yakumo> big arma player?
20:12 <\u03b5> player..no..hha
20:13 <Yakumo> one of the coders?
20:13 <\u03b5> yeah, but he doesnt eat people for that though :)
20:14 <Yakumo> router reboot time, $%%£$%£ isp
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20:20 <K-Yo> \u03b5, why is #armagetron.pickup closed?
20:21 <akira_arma> yup
20:21 <akira_arma> good question
20:23 <\u03b5> no more games going on
20:24 <\u03b5> may reopen it with another gametype sometime perhaps
20:24 <\u03b5> but right there it was dea, confusing newbs
20:24 <\u03b5> dead*
20:24 <\u03b5> brb dinner
20:24 <K-Yo> okay
20:24 <K-Yo> bon app
20:35 <Yakumo`> Lucifer back ?
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20:36 <Yakumo> \u03b5 you still there?
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20:38 <\u03b5> back
20:38 <\u03b5>  :<
20:47 <madmax> #as
20:47 <armabot> madmax: This data is 26 seconds old; ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress (16/32), The YELLOW Submarine (12/12), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (10/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (8/14), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (7/10), |FA| Black Tar! (5/16), ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Arena {100MBit} (4/10), Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (3/6), >>> FAST TRACK RELOADED (VERY High Speed) <<< (3/12), ID Clan -=}< (1 more message)
20:47 <madmax> #sd mega
20:47 <armabot> madmax: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress: Players (16/32): ()|\|3, -||BS|Sunrise, -»|slash, .pRu|animal, .pRu|Hell-lo, .×] Hoax, ct~orly?, divineviolence (divineviolence@ct/public), Guillaume, Iskander, moth, olive, Radian +, stax (stax@forums), `Wwpunny, ~|DS|~zion
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21:01 <\u03b5> sinewav, clan movies are not always crap on the internets :) http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1704482
21:04 <sinewav> I can't view it.
21:04 <sinewav> I'm sure it's lovely. My only experience with clan vidoes is from Arma, because it's the only game I play.
21:05 <\u03b5> sinewav, http://www.own3d.tv/watch/t13-clan-fragmovie,14528.html
21:05 <\u03b5> aw not ads again :(
21:06 <\u03b5> the intro is awesome especially
21:06 <sinewav> I doesn't load, sorry.
21:06 <\u03b5> FLYING GIBS ASDF.
21:06 <\u03b5> mm
21:07 <sinewav> youtube?
21:07 <\u03b5> maybe http://www.quakeunity.com/file=2896 ?
21:08 <sinewav> ok, buffering. I'll give you my opinion in 30 minutes.
21:08 <sinewav> and don't make fun of my bad computer and Internet connection. I'm poor.
21:08 <\u03b5> i'm not :)
21:09 <sinewav> ok thanks. I'm a little self conscious about it I guess. My friends pick on me.
21:10 <sinewav> I didn't own a dvd player until last year.
21:11 <\u03b5> you still probably did a lot more digital art than most your friends
21:12 <sinewav> they are generally amazed at what I can do with so little actualy. And with music too.
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21:28 <sinewav> \u03b5: well, the intro was interesting, but after that it was just some guys playing a game. And since I don't know the game I can't really say how 1337 they are.
21:29 <sinewav> the intro was still better than the average arma vid.
21:30 <\u03b5> well, the second part is probably best
22:03 <akira_arma> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYZXNVHVfhc
22:03 <akira_arma> :)
22:03 <Vanhayes> well arma doesn't seem to translate to video very well for one thing
22:04 <Vanhayes> second is that alot of the makers have only made arma videos so youdont get a whole lot of production value
22:18 <\u03b5> seriousely, does cloaket keep a bookmark folder of gay pron links or what?
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22:19 <Yakumo> hi
22:19 <Yakumo> Lucifer about?
22:20 <Yakumo> aaah no matter
22:21 <Vanhayes> \u03b5, probably got it with his new account
22:21 <Vanhayes> #seen lucifer
22:21 <armabot> Vanhayes: lucifer was last seen in #armagetron 5 days, 16 hours, 52 minutes, and 1 second ago: <Lucifer> somebody should just write an export plugin for inkscape
22:21 <\u03b5> haha
22:21 <Vanhayes> Yakumo, might be a while to get to you
22:21 <Vanhayes> try #m lucifer <insert message>
22:22 <\u03b5> i'll let you post that heh
22:22 <Vanhayes> he will get it whenever he gets back
22:22 <Vanhayes> \u03b5, already did
22:22 <\u03b5> :))
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23:27 <noob13> .as
23:27 <tronner> noob13: This data is 31 seconds old; The YELLOW Submarine (10/12), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (9/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (8/10), Wild West  =Sumo= (8/16), ..D.o.g.F.i.g.h.t.. (6/8), ~Wild Night~Loose~ (6/8), WILDCAT (6/8), Wild West  =High Rubber= (4/16), -=F²=- Fatal Force Loose DF Server (4/12), .dBd|High Rubber (4/8), -=Pls Res Us!=- -=Sumo=- (4/32), Chico's Brake Boost Styball (4/8), boneyard (1 more message)
23:28 <noob13> .sd fort
23:28 <tronner> noob13: .×] Twi¦×¦ted ¦×¦ats Fortress (EU) [×.: Players (2/18): g.911, zozo
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23:48 <Vanhayes> ct|kyle, that hubble thing isnt available for non-USA regions :/

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17:10 <Vanhayes> #as
17:10 <armabot> Vanhayes: This data is 24 seconds old; The YELLOW Submarine (11/12), -»| Arrow's Team Sumo [EU] (9/32), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (Europe) (8/10), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (7/12), ~Wild Night~ (6/10), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (3/14), boneyard (2/16), |FA| Black Tar! (2/16), Wild West  =Wild Fortress= (2/12), .dBd|High Rubber (2/8), Swampland Mud Puddle (2/8), ID Clan -=}< DoG (1 more message)
17:10 <Vanhayes> #si arrow
17:10 <armabot> Vanhayes: -»| Arrow's Team Sumo [EU]: Players (9/32): -»|slash (slashy@forums), 345873948579345, 543975849378543, Ancora, CT_B3eR (luiso@ct/junior), Eulo, evälÐúsiå, fool, Hay-Lin
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18:45 <\u03b5> #cafe
18:45 <armabot> \u03b5: Fortress Café: Players (3/32): Chris, fake_dubs, fake_epsy
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19:17 <sinewav> ct|kyle: yo, that nova special was awesome. fricking amazing what happened out there.
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19:25 <ct|kyle> sinewav: I know :)
19:26 <sinewav> ct|kyle: dude, all this tiny screws? and the hand-rail omg....
19:27 <ct|kyle> ya I recorded most of the space walks and watched that handrail one the day after, but the did not have video of it because of it's position
19:27 <ct|kyle> so I was glad to actually get to see it in that
19:28 <sinewav> when I saw the handrail test on the ground I was like "holy shit, someone's gonna die if that breaks off!"
19:29 <sinewav> I remember all the headlines as I watched it though. cool.
19:29 <ct|kyle> it looked a little bad since they were measuring the force it would take  (they took that 3 times before telling the crew)
19:37 <ct|kyle> too bad Vanhayes has not figured out how to see it :)
19:40 <\u03b5> railguns? :o
19:43 <ct|kyle> HST railings
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20:06 <Vanhayes> ct|kyle, well the easiest way to watch it is just to turn on hotspot shield, it gives me a US IP, thats how i watch hulu anyways
20:06 <ct|kyle> heh
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20:07 <Vanhayes> I passed out early last night because i mistakenly took extra strength night time allergy medicine instead of the regular stuff
20:07 <sinewav> haha
20:07 <Vanhayes> so i didnt get a chance to see it
20:08 <Vanhayes> I was so confused why i was exhausted at 4 pm
20:08 <Vanhayes> then i read the package
20:08 <Vanhayes> says take one right before you go to bed and i took two around 3 in the sfternoon
20:09 <Vanhayes> hmm is it still on that site? i saw quite a few other videos
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20:10 <ct|kyle> Vanhayes: http://video.pbs.org/video/1294298696/program/979359664
20:11 <Vanhayes> thsnks
20:12 <Vanhayes> yup hotspot shield worked
20:12 <Vanhayes> only problem is that the buffer time more then doubles
20:19 <Vanhayes> anyone else get a "master servers do not answer" message everytime they go online, yet it doesn't effect anything?
20:19 <Vanhayes> affect?
20:19 <ct|kyle> it usses your last known cash of the list
20:19 <ct|kyle> cache*
20:20 <Vanhayes> so just no new servers, but it still updates the ones in the cache?
20:20 <ct|kyle> ya
20:21 <Vanhayes> I can live with that
20:22 <\u03b5> well, it shouldnt produce this error anymore now anyway
20:23 <Vanhayes> im on 0.3 alpha release
20:25 <Vanhayes> been meaning to try the new rc for 0.2.8
20:25 <Vanhayes> will that release be the last for 0.2?
20:26 <Vanhayes> remember hearing something about that awhile back, then it goes right on to 0.4 leaving 0.3 as the experimental branch
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20:45 <Vanhayes_> ugh i just blue screened :/
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20:48 <sinewav> blue screen? really? wow.
20:49 <Vanhayes_> ya i think it is this torrent for some reason
20:49 <Vanhayes_> happened three times now and only after this torrent gets to 70% or so
20:49 <sinewav> I thin kI've only blue-screened twice in the last 5 years.
20:50 <sinewav> I guess I'm lucky. Then again, I'm a pretty "safe" user.
20:50 <Vanhayes_> this is the 3rd time in the last 2 weeks, before that maybe once in the last 5 years
20:50 <akira_arma> pc-condome?
20:50 <sinewav> haha
20:51 <Vanhayes_> bad week for microsoft things, my xbox red ringed too
20:51 <akira_arma> xbawks O.o
20:51 <Vanhayes_> they need some better quality contol people
20:51 <Vanhayes_> not just saying " looks fine to me, ship it"
20:54 <ct|kyle> I haven't seen a BSoD in a long time either Oh ya I don't use that crap :)
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22:55 <Vanhayes_> lucifer you are drawing by hand now for your comic?
22:55 <Lucifer> yes
22:56 <ct|kyle> there are 10^10^10^7 universes in the multiverse
22:56 <ct|kyle> but how many multiverse's are there?
22:56 <Vanhayes_> yesterday's one is probably my favorite
22:56 <Vanhayes_> isnt there just one multiverse?
22:58 <ct|kyle> no... that's what people would say of a universe years ago
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23:03 <\u03b5> sinewav, (and other artists): http://blog.thesilentnumber.me/2009/09/calling-all-foss-game-artists-and-free.html
23:06 <sinewav> I missed the meeting.
23:06 <Lucifer> was that the lady in red one?
23:07 <\u03b5> ah, september
23:07 <\u03b5> im so great at reminding people
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23:56 <ct|kyle> sinewav: how does Sunday December 13, 2009 sound for 4th in-cam fortress tourney?
23:59 <sinewav> ct|kyle: that's so far off, but yeah I should be around.

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00:00 <ct|kyle> or november 8th :)
00:03 <sinewav> I might be out of town then, bu probably not
00:04 <ct|kyle> I may still have work that weekend also
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01:39 <nsh22> sinewav: quit corrupting leviathan
01:40 <nsh22> sinewav: ping
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02:05 <sinewav> nsh22: lol!
02:05 <nsh22> :P
02:05 <nsh22> i actually loled a bit at your post, gj
02:06 <sinewav> it's all true man, take my advice
02:06 <nsh22> u get tested every 6 months, correct?
02:06 <sinewav> yes
02:07 <nsh22> isnt it a bit annoying
02:07 <sinewav> you can be promiscuous and smart about it
02:08 <nsh22> YOU WERE PROMOTING SLUTS FFS!
02:08 <nsh22> :P
02:08 <nsh22>  if this girl needs a lot of romance for you to touch her naughty-bits, dump her and move on.
02:08 <nsh22> hmmm?
02:08 <nsh22> :D
02:09 <sinewav> no, I was not endorsing "prudes". big difference
02:09 <nsh22> prudes being goody two shoes?
02:10 <sinewav> yes. you can have sex and not be a whore.
02:10 <nsh22> wheres dubs when you need her
02:11 <sinewav> I'm pretty sure she would back me up on this.
02:11 <nsh22> most likely, but it would be a perect opportunity for me tomake fun of her
02:11 <nsh22> perfect
02:11 <nsh22> *
02:12 <nsh22> but i dont think sex is what levi wa after, hes just trying to make it a good date
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02:13 <sinewav> levi needs to capture that pussy like he captures flags in CTF.
02:14 <nsh22> yeah, well what if mokey is deffing that flag, hes right fucked out of a pussy then
02:14 <nsh22> btw, i fixed your thread :P
02:15 <sinewav> lol @ monkey def
02:15 <nsh22> :P
02:16 <nsh22> and even if he got through hed prolly have to do a sdpawn kill like a fag...
02:16 <nsh22> :P
02:17 <nsh22> btw, why in the hell would he ask a questioon on the forums...?
02:17 <nsh22> like that*
02:21 <nsh22> *sigh*
02:21  * nsh22 has to be thinking about ccollege vs apprenticship vs mom and college fund
02:22 <sinewav> I'm sure one of the reasons you post on a video game forum about your girlfriedn is to show that you can get one.
02:22 <nsh22> sinewav: or to prove your a liar.
02:22 <nsh22> :P
02:23 <sinewav> I think he's was probably surprised that no one gave a shit about his girlfriend - that's why he bumped it.
02:23 <sinewav> and because of that, I'm tempted to troll it.
02:23 <nsh22> do it. nao
02:24 <nsh22> if only for the lulz
03:17 <ct|kyle> nsh22: for food's a quick college
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03:26 <nsh22> ct|kyle: ?
03:26 <nsh22> ah, you mean its 2 years vs 4
03:26 <nsh22> yeah i know
03:26 <nsh22> BUT
03:27 <nsh22> i want to take an appenticeship AND a culinary management course at thge same time.
03:27 <ct|kyle> oh
03:27 <ct|kyle> nsh22: have you made noodles before?
03:27 <nsh22> or take college while in an appretice shi[
03:28 <nsh22> noodl;es as in pasta, yes
03:28 <ct|kyle> egg noodles
03:28 <nsh22> well, they could be called egg noodles
03:28 <nsh22> eggs, flour, oil.
03:28 <nsh22> watter if needed
03:29 <nsh22> pasta is easy to make, same with gnocci
03:29 <ct|kyle> hmm I never add oil, I tried melted butter the last time, made them test even better
03:29 <ct|kyle> taste*
03:29 <nsh22> that would serve the same purpose
03:29 <nsh22> mainly fo taste irc
03:29 <nsh22> iirc*
03:29 <ct|kyle> that's kind of what I was thinking
03:30 <nsh22> HIVE MIND
03:31 <nsh22> my first "professional" dish that i ever made: sage gnocci with rosemay olio with grilled lamb chops
03:31 <nsh22> made it when i was 13-14
03:31 <nsh22> created the recipe myself too
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03:33 <nsh22> ok, g2g. gn
03:33 <ct|kyle> see you nsh22
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19:52 <K-Yo> \u03b5, with the latest trunk built, the server kicks me out each time I finish downloading a map :/
19:52 <K-Yo> with a message like "server terminated the connection"
19:56 <ct|kyle> .nickometer \u03b5
19:56 <tronner> ct|kyle: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "\u03b5" is 66.9%.
20:00 <K-Yo> .nickometer ct|kyle
20:00 <tronner> K-Yo: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "ct|kyle" is 14.4%.
20:00 <K-Yo> .nickometer K-Yo
20:00 <tronner> K-Yo: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "K-Yo" is 18.8%.
20:00 <K-Yo> aw
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00:56  * luke-jr just had an awesome yet probably impractical idea for a new game mode
00:57 <luke-jr> if your cycle hits 142 km/h, you get to time travel :D
00:58 <luke-jr> meaning you can go backward and kill your enemies
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02:07 <ct|kyle> sinewav: again, happy 38
02:25 <sinewav> ct|kyle: oh thanks! sorry, was getting dinner.
02:29 <ct|kyle> sinewav: I just wanted to get that up to 600% :P
02:31 <sinewav> ha!
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19:46 <luke-jr> ]later tell sine* ...
19:46 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
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21:20 <ct|kyle> sinewav: http://crazy-tronners.com/viewtopic.php?p=40315#40315 heh
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21:58 <sinewav> ct|kyle: haha wow @ word's drawing.
22:13 <ct|kyle> .sg adventures of tron
22:13 <tronner> ct|kyle: Adventures of TRON >> Advanced Racing <<: (0/7), Adventures of TRON >> TRON Experience <<: (0/6), Adventures of TRON >>> Challenge II  <<<: (0/4)
22:20 <sinewav> boo
22:21 <ct|kyle> I'm just making sure sg works (server grep)
22:21 <ct|kyle> now can list all ladle servers with it
22:23 <sinewav> oh good one
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22:23 <ct|kyle> I'm not sure if I should add -v to it to just show ip:portNo
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23:50 <\u03b5> sinewav, I gotta harass you with your birthday.
23:51 <sinewav> \u oh thanks!
23:51 <\u03b5> ))
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02:09 <luke-jr> sinewav: ...
02:11 <sinewav> whats up?
02:11 <sinewav> luke-jr : yes?
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19:19 <sinewav> Flex: I really like your idea on the Ladle 27 settings, with the allow_chat 7 thing. I hope it goes though.
19:20 <Flex> yeah, i think SP will vote for it too.
19:21 <sinewav> I'll do my best to influence the Plus vote.
19:25 <\u03b5> would it apply to people who are playing?
19:30 <sinewav> \u03b5: wait, what?
19:30 <sinewav> people who are playing?
19:30 <\u03b5> can people who are playing still talk if the setting goes in?
19:31 <sinewav> only in team, right?
19:31 <sinewav> I don't know how it works.
19:31 <Flex> they can talk in /team and /msg and captains can talk freely just like people above level 7
19:31 <Flex> i think that's how it works
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19:34 <Flex> akira_arma, here?
19:34 <akira_arma> o crap
19:34 <sinewav> Flex: we should test it.
19:34 <akira_arma> i always forget it :)
19:35 <akira_arma> practice time?
19:35 <Flex> akira_arma, you're not late, lol i was just pinging you :p
19:35 <akira_arma> ok
19:35 <akira_arma> i ahve time a in a few
19:35 <akira_arma> :)
19:35 <akira_arma> if need be!
19:35 <sinewav> why don't you guys set up a quick match and tst those settings?
19:35 <Flex> sinewav; i'll try it tonight against a friendly
19:35 <sinewav> ok!
19:35 <sinewav> I'm very interested in the results.
19:35 <Flex> akira_arma, it's in 30 minutes
19:36 <Flex> sinewav, the results should be a very silent match, except captains being allowed to say things.. lol seems like a dream
19:36 <sinewav> yes, that would be excellent.
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20:03 <Vanhayes_> .as
20:03 <tronner> Vanhayes_: This data is 139 seconds old; FPL>>CT [EU] (19/32), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (9/14), ->Precision. Practice | Sumo (7/16), .Ã] Twi¦Ã¦ted ¦Ã¦ats Fortress (EU) [Ã. (7/18), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (6/10), _~Capture The Flag~_ (6/16), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (6/12), The YELLOW Submarine (6/12), Fortress Onslaught (6/12), OBSI'S-->-=FRIENDLYZONEPLS=-<--OBSI'S (5/10), |FA| Black Tar! (2 more messages)
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20:20 <Vanhayes_> #weather saint john
20:20 <armabot> Vanhayes_: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
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20:45 <Flex> it didn't go too well, enable_chat with access_level_chat 7 doesn't allow people lower to speak in /team /msg, but i think enable_chat on its own does.. well can't test it properly till the match is finished.. they want to speak.. bbl
20:48 <Vanhayes_> seems magic got kicked from something to do with that Flex
20:48 <Vanhayes_> saud he was spamm kicked
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20:49 <Flex> really, didn't see
20:49 <Flex> kyo is afk so dunno
20:49 <Flex> but i think he wanted to leave, so he probably did it on purpose
20:50 <Flex> oh wait nm
20:50 <Vanhayes_> im not sure, he seemed a little pissed off by it
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21:01 <G5> Flex: We have a Fun War now?
21:02 <Flex> yeah, SP is playing CT atm, 1-0
21:02 <Flex> match after, do you guys have 6?
21:03 <Flex> G5 can you tell zion and the others to come to the SP match
21:04 <G5> ok ... how long will it take to finish. We agreed on 19h00 GMT (Zion said). We are ready and waiting ... and Im not sure we'll have players in 30 mins.
21:06 <Flex> ct were finished playing pru so we started assuming you guys wouldn't make it, but it's done soon, best of 3 isn't going to take less than 30 minutes anyway
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21:39 <noob13> .as
21:39 <tronner> noob13: This data is 75 seconds old; FPL>>Z-Man's (18/32), SpeedeRs (Ladle Fortress) (14/32), The YELLOW Submarine (12/12), .Ã] Twi¦Ã¦ted ¦Ã¦ats Fortress (EU) [Ã. (12/18), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (8/12), ~Wild Night~Loose~ (7/8), _~Capture The Flag~_ (7/16), Wild West  =High Rubber= (6/16), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (6/12), -=F²=- Fatal Force Loose DF Server (1 more message)
21:39 <noob13> .sd fort
21:39 <tronner> noob13: SpeedeRs (Ladle Fortress): Players (14/32): -*insa*-, PsYkO (PsYkO@forums), ~*Delta*~ (~*Delta*~@ct/public), ~*DiStoRt*~ (DiStoRt@forums), ~*Flex*~ (Flex@forums), ~*Magic*~, ~*Shodan*~ (akira@forums), ~*SP*~Oblivion, ~|DS|~ Plage (plage@forums), ~|DS|~G5 (G5@forums), ~|DS|~noname, ~|DS|~zion, ~|DS|~|Alien|~ (alien@ct/public), ~|DS|~|CruZ|~ (CruZ@forums)
21:39 <noob13> .sd fpl
21:39 <tronner> noob13: FPL>>Z-Man\'s: Players (18/32): -»|biertje, -»|FoFo, -»|freako (freako@forums), -»|hoop (hoop@forums), -»|slashy (slashy@forums), -»|viper (viper1@forums), CT×ZaP (Gonzap@ct/senior), CT_emphasis (emphasis@ct/leader), ct|pike (pike@ct/junior), fake_epsy (epsy@forums), Lizmatic +, newbÎe (newbie@forums), Nickmatic + (nickmatic_+@L_OP), olive (Olive@forums), Radian +, Rudycantfail +, spectator, Xyron (1 more message)
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22:25 <Flex> the ENABLE_CHAT 0 and ACCESS_LEVEL_CHAT 7 doesn't do what i thought it would do
22:26 <Flex> would be nice, to have though
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22:32 <\u03b5> I don't understand what you want to do
22:32 <\u03b5> either you only want some people to talk, or none at all
22:32 <\u03b5> this should just not allow anything to talk
22:32 <Flex> i thought enable_chat only disabled public chat, but allowed /team and /msg
22:33 <Flex> then i thought, access_level_chat 7 would overwride that and allow team captains and above to chat
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21:06 <ct|kyle> .sg fortress on
21:06 <tronner> ct|kyle: Fortress Onslaught: (9/12), Fortress Onslaught USA: (0/12)
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21:45 <madmax> #as
21:45 <armabot> madmax: This data is 61 seconds old; Fortress Onslaught (12/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (12/14), The YELLOW Submarine (10/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (9/10), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (9/12), ~Wild Night~Loose~ (7/8), |FA| Black Tar! (5/16), ..D.o.g.F.i.g.h.t.. (5/8), Swampland Mud Puddle (4/8), WILDCAT (3/8), Norm's Home (3/12), -  [ Nano's Playground | Nano Standard ]  - (1 more message)
21:45 <madmax> #sd mud
21:45 <armabot> madmax: Swampland Mud Puddle: Players (4/8): alitupo, Alwadi, |FWt~Kerlis, |FW~Huy
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22:12 <Vanhayes> .as
22:12 <tronner> Vanhayes: This data is 50 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (11/14), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (10/12), The YELLOW Submarine (9/12), Fortress Onslaught (7/12), |FA| Black Tar! (5/16), .Ã] Twi¦Ã¦ted ¦Ã¦ats Sumo (US) [Ã. (5/32), ..D.o.g.F.i.g.h.t.. (3/8), -=F²=- Fatal Force Loose DF Server (3/12), ~Wild Night~Loose~ (3/8), IT08B ARMAGETRON METZELBUDE (1 more message)
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22:36 <Vanhayes> .as
22:36 <tronner> Vanhayes: This data is 60 seconds old; [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (11/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), The YELLOW Submarine (10/12), |FA| Black Tar! (9/16), Fortress Onslaught (8/12), Wild West  =Sumo= (7/16), ~Wild Night~Loose~ (7/8), Swampland Mud Puddle (6/8), |FA| Black Ice! (4/16), Wild West  =High Rubber= (3/16), Crazy Tronners Regular CTF (3/10), IT08B ARMAGETRON METZELBUDE (2/16), WILDCAT (1 more message)
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23:43 <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [armagetronad-ct-ladderlog] r923 Adding PLAYER_GRIDPOS [name] [xpos] [ypos] [xdir] [ydir] [te...

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02:23 <noob13> .as
02:23 <tronner> noob13: This data is 151 seconds old; ID Clan -=}< OPEN SuMo (9/12), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (7/10), ~Wild Night~Loose~ (7/8), The YELLOW Submarine (6/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (5/10), Swampland Mud Puddle (5/8), LS's Love Sty (5/10), Wild West  =High Rubber= (4/16), Wild West  =Fortress Shootout= (4/12), ~Wild Night~ (3/10), OBSI'S-->-=FRIENDLYZONEPLS=-<--OBSI'S (2/10), ~'tëãm |Deathmatch| ãnønµm'~ (1 more message)
02:23 <noob13> .more
02:23 <tronner> noob13: (2/16), :) Happy!! :) (2/16), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (1/16), |FA| Black Tar! (1/16), .dBd|High Rubber (1/8)
02:44 <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [armagetronad-ct] r923 Adding PLAYER_GRIDPOS [name] [xpos] [ypos] [xdir] [ydir] [te... || [armagetronad-ct] r922 fixed colour values on ONLINE_PLAYER || [armagetronad-ct] r921 merging with mainline r936
03:09 <ct|kyle> dlh: ping
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03:28 <noob13> hi!
03:29 <Snapdeus> yo.
03:29 <noob13> whats going on?
03:29 <Snapdeus> absolutely nada
03:43 <AshitakA>  hi
03:43 <AshitakA>  someone wanna play ladle?
03:44 <ct|kyle> .sg ladle
03:44 <tronner> ct|kyle: Ladle 26 (CT\'s 1): (0/24), Ladle 26 (CT\'s 2 [EU]): (0/32), Ladle 26 (CT\'s 2): (0/50), Ladle 26 (The Server Pharm NY): (0/32), Ladle 26 (The Server Pharm TX): (0/32), Ladle 26 (The Server Pharm UK): (0/32), Ladle Fortress (Ferr\'s Test Server): (0/16)
03:44 <AshitakA>  and have no teamyet?
03:44 <AshitakA>  you are welcome
03:44 <ct|kyle> I'm playing for CT this one :)
03:45 <AshitakA>  b
03:45 <AshitakA>  ct and plus
03:45 <AshitakA>  the usual winners
03:45 <AshitakA>  and sp , forget
03:45 <ct|kyle> arrow TX
03:46 <AshitakA>  ok four teams
03:46 <AshitakA>  why is the ladle not a four team tourney
03:46 <AshitakA>  ?
03:47 <ct|kyle> because its for any team, it just happens you gotta have better team play than those 4 to win
03:47 <ct|kyle> but still playing make a team better
03:48 <AshitakA>  what is if every new ladle there is a new team?
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03:49 <ct|kyle> it just makes it harder for them to win, unless you practice hard as a team
03:49 <AshitakA>  yes
03:50 <AshitakA>  it looks like new tems have no chance
03:51 <ct|kyle> after a few ladles they may, they shouldn't get discouraged by not winning
03:51 <ct|kyle> or they could organize a practice war against on of the top teams
03:51 <AshitakA>  so i could join plus
03:52 <AshitakA>  and the rest can loose
03:52 <AshitakA>  ?
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03:55 <AshitakA>  there are often the sam teams in the finals, if you understand
03:55 <AshitakA>  same*
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03:58 <AshitakA>  if thats the abandonment for the ladle, but i thought it is not.
03:58 <ct|kyle> there was talk about making it a double elimination event
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03:59 <ct|kyle> wich would give the newer teams a better chance
03:59 <AshitakA>  yes it was an idea of mine
03:59 <AshitakA>  but it got lost like  it looks
04:00 <AshitakA>  the good teams fear the idea
04:01 <ct|kyle> maybe you should bring it up again on the current thread
04:01 <ct|kyle> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:16TeamBracket-Compact-DoubleElim3  that's a sample bracket, the only problem I see is that it would take an extra 1.5 hours to pllay
04:01 <AshitakA>  I brought it three times
04:02 <AshitakA>  dont want to bring it the fourth
04:04 <ct|kyle> maybe I'll bring it up for you again, I need to find time to read that thread though
04:04 <AshitakA>  it would take the same time and the same servers
04:04 <ct|kyle> how?
04:04 <AshitakA>  would be nice of
04:05 <AshitakA>  even if i dont take apart
04:05 <ct|kyle> the only way I see it working is adding 2 more rounds
04:05 <AshitakA> nope
04:06 <AshitakA>  the loosers team fill up the second table
04:06 <AshitakA>  which is empty
04:06 <AshitakA>  and stay at the server
04:06 <ct|kyle> yes I know
04:06 <ct|kyle> look at this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:16TeamBracket-Compact-DoubleElim3
04:06 <AshitakA>  so why more time?
04:07 <ct|kyle> essentually 1 for giving the looser a second chance to win
04:07 <AshitakA>  ok
04:07 <ct|kyle> and 1 to get that final loosing team playoff
04:07 <AshitakA>  is there one winner team at the end?
04:08 <ct|kyle> the original 16 teams play like normal
04:08 <ct|kyle> and so do the loosing teams
04:08 <AshitakA>  well
04:09 <AshitakA>  and at the end we have two winners
04:09 <ct|kyle> or do you think have just a winners bracket and a loosers bracket from the start?
04:09 <ct|kyle> ah ok, I see
04:09 <AshitakA>  i thought the absolute winners
04:10 <AshitakA>  and the
04:10 <ct|kyle> so your idea isent a true double elimination, just to have a loosers bracket
04:10 <AshitakA>  noob wieners, if you want to
04:10 <AshitakA>  yap
04:11 <AshitakA>  thats it
04:11 <AshitakA>  just two winners
04:11 <ct|kyle> that would be a good start to a double elimination though (which I would prefer) but that would take 2 Sundays to play
04:12 <AshitakA>  the same time like normal ladle
04:12 <ct|kyle> ya, ill see if I can explain it a bit better in that thread, not now though maybe middle of the week
04:13 <AshitakA>  ah ok
04:13 <AshitakA>  i see
04:14 <AshitakA>  ill wait for your answer
04:15 <AshitakA>  if you want say something to it on the forum
04:15 <AshitakA>  every feedback is welcome
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04:18 <ct|kyle> I guess while the idea is fresh in my mind I'll post
04:20 <AshitakA>  sounds the idea take fruits
04:20 <AshitakA>  thy
04:23 <AshitakA>   my englisha sucks anyway :)
04:25 <ct|kyle> AshitakA: there posted
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06:40 <sinewav> luke-jr: Just so you know, my PayPal account has been hacked. I'm working on fixing it as I type this.
06:40 <luke-jr> o i c
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06:42 <luke-jr> sinewav: just the account, I hope?
06:42 <sinewav> luke-jr: some one added an address in Portland... not good. No money missing though, luckilly.
06:43 <luke-jr> O.o
06:43 <luke-jr> odd
06:43 <luke-jr> sinewav: you realize the "..." I left for you was in response to failed payment?
06:44 <sinewav> luke-jr: I figured that out when I didn't get a notice from PayPal. I logged in today to see what was up.
06:44 <luke-jr> i c
06:46 <Lucifer_clone> hey luke-jr (hi there!) , where did yu say you were at now?
06:46 <luke-jr> Lucifer_clone: ?
06:46 <luke-jr> like, geographically?
06:46 <Lucifer_clone> didn't you go somewhere in Kansas?
06:46 <luke-jr> not recently
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06:48 <Lucifer_arma> damn, how am I supposed to reclaim a nickname aain?
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> where's teh channel where the staffers hang out?
06:49 <luke-jr> #FreeNode
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08:50 <Lucifer> z-man!
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17:28 <dlh> ct|kyle: pong
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17:53 <Vanhayes> .as
17:53 <tronner> Vanhayes: This data is 106 seconds old; Fortress Onslaught (12/12), Flower Power Sumo Assault (11/12), The YELLOW Submarine (10/12), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (8/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (Europe) (5/10), ..D.o.g.F.i.g.h.t.. (3/8), -  [ Nano's Playground | Nano Standard ]  -         . (3/8), -=VcL.Clan High Rubber (100mbit) (3/16), Emphasis' solo sumo (3/16), OBSI'S-->-=FRIENDLYZONEPLS=-<--OBSI'S (1 more message)
17:53 <Vanhayes> .si ons
17:53 <tronner> Vanhayes: Fortress Onslaught: Players (12/12): .dBd|xXMiPXx, alf (alf@ct/public), aok yoshy (aok\\_yoshy@ct/public), AtomicTide, ct-safariskater (safariskater@ct/senior), CT_B3eR, glob, Kongo Style, modis, rxnoy (Xyron@forums), ~*Sigma*~ (Sasha@forums)
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18:50 <ct|kyle> dlh: I was just wondering how I could make the map preview code show flags and other sty hacks
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21:21 <Vanhayes> .as
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21:21 <Vanhayes> .si ds
21:21 <tronner> Vanhayes: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate\'s Mega Fortress: Players (6/32): Pre, Thumper, `Ww Punish, ~|DS|~°DoCtOrÂ, ~|DS|~G5 (G5@forums), ~|DS|~zion
21:21 <ct|kyle> .sg fort
21:21 <tronner> ct|kyle: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: (12/14), Fortress Onslaught: (9/12), ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate\'s Mega Fortress: (6/32), SpeedeRs (Fortress): (0/32), -»| Arrow\'s Fortress [EU]: (0/32), Ladle Fortress (Ferr\'s Test Server): (0/16), Team Unknown.uNk|Fortress [EU]: (0/32), .×] Twi¦×¦ted ¦×¦ats Fortress (EU) [×.: (0/18), .×] Twi¦×¦ted ¦×¦ats CTF w/ FortFzx (US) [×.: (0/16), .×] Twi¦×¦ted (2 more messages)
22:05 <z-man> BRAIN PARASITES!
22:05 <luke-jr> z-man: #anime has sentient bots
22:05 <z-man> Yeah, right.
22:06 <luke-jr> z-man: try to identify them ;)
22:06 <luke-jr> there are two
22:06 <luke-jr> I'll bet you pick at least one human
22:06 <z-man> I would try, but I definitely can't distinguish a human from a bot when they're talking about anime.
22:06 <z-man> Or at least, I'm not willing to.
22:07 <luke-jr> nobody talks about anime much there
22:07 <luke-jr> we just play yandere/TWG
22:07 <luke-jr> and random tech chat
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22:21 <\u03b5> I'm always mixing up anime and hentai
22:21 <K-Yo> bouh anime
22:21 <K-Yo> wee hentai
22:22  * \u03b5 whistles non-chalantly
22:24 <\u03b5> mega fortress is up with 10v9
22:24 <\u03b5> >.<
22:26 <P4> .si a f
22:26 <tronner> P4: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate\'s Mega Fortress: Players (19/32): ->P.Mkay-1, -»|FoFo, .×] $ubzero, .×] Liza (Liza@forums), .pRu|animal, .pRu|Hell-lo, Ada Lovelace, Bellum (steam@forums), fingerbib, Flex, heyyyyyyy, Lizmatic +, MaZuffeR, Monkey.D.Luffy, Pr³, `Ww Punish, ~*Delta*~, ~|DS|~zion (zion@forums), ~|DS|~|Alien|~ (alien@ct/public)
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02:23 <sinewav> luke-jr: ping
02:35 <noob13> .sd fort
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02:56 <luke-jr> ..
04:21 <akira_arma> .aw
04:21 <akira_arma> .as
04:21 <tronner> akira_arma: timed out
04:21 <akira_arma> ..
04:21 <akira_arma> .as
04:22 <akira_arma> uhoh
04:22 <tronner> akira_arma: timed out
04:22 <akira_arma> .slap tronner
04:22 <tronner> akira_arma: Abuse, abuse!!
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04:22 <akira_arma> .kick tronner
04:22 <akira_arma> :(
04:31 <ct|kyle> .slap akira_arma
04:31  * tronner slaps akira_arma around with the fleeing, powerful w10
04:32 <akira_arma> ?
04:32 <akira_arma> what is a w10?
04:32 <ct|kyle> .google w10
04:32 <tronner> ct|kyle: Form W-10 (Rev. August 2009): <http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/fw10.pdf>; 2009 Digital Camera Reviews: Pentax Optio W10 6MP Digital Camera ...: <http://cheapdigitalcameracompare.blogspot.com/2009/08/pentax-optio-w10-6mp-digital-camera.html>; Flickr: W10's Photostream: <http://www.flickr.com/photos/w10/>
04:33 <akira_arma> ...
04:33 <akira_arma> 'I don't want random products sporting w10 in their title
04:33 <akira_arma> .slap ct|kyle
04:33  * tronner slaps ct|kyle around with a shipped, morbid tomahawk
04:33 <ct|kyle> it just picks serveral words from an array
04:34 <akira_arma> seems like
04:34 <ct|kyle> I know it does :P
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16:30 <Vanhayes> .as
16:30 <tronner> Vanhayes: This data is 218 seconds old; Fortress Onslaught (12/12), The YELLOW Submarine (11/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (6/10), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (6/12), |FA| Black Tar! (5/16), SpeedeRs (Sumo) (4/32), -=æ~'Untitled'sæ=- Capture The Flag (2/10), WILDCAT (2/8), Swampland Mud Puddle (2/8), -  [ Nano's Playground | Nano Standard ]  -         . (2/8), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (2/14), (1 more message)
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18:35 <Vanhayes> .as
18:35 <tronner> Vanhayes: This data is 44 seconds old; [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (12/12), The YELLOW Submarine (8/12), -=Pls Res Us!=- -=Sumo=- (6/32), .Ã] Twi¦Ã¦ted ¦Ã¦ats Fortress (EU) [Ã. (6/18), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (6/14), ~Wild Night~Loose~ (4/8), WILDCAT (4/8), Swampland Mud Puddle (4/8), :) Happy!! :) (4/16), Fortress Onslaught (3/12), >>> FAST TRACK RELOADED (VERY High Speed) <<< (3/12), -||BS| (1 more message)
18:36 <Vanhayes> .si ons
18:36 <tronner> Vanhayes: Fortress Onslaught: Players (3/12): -»|slashy, 75, <^v{}v^>
18:42 <Vanhayes> .si ons
18:42 <tronner> Vanhayes: Fortress Onslaught: Players (0/12):
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20:40 <Vanhayes> .si ds
20:40 <tronner> Vanhayes: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate\'s Mega Fortress: Players (26/32): -»|slashy, -||BS|ChrisGW, .×] $ubzero, .×] Liza (Liza@forums), .pRu|animal, 75, Abbo, Actown, °°Sandglass, °°Sans Plomb, Cabe, CT×ZaP, CT_emphasis (emphasis@ct/leader), dignan, Discosuperstar, divineviolence (divineviolence@ct/public), Don Pedo, Flex, Fluffles, freako, ikono, iskra, justin, Miklet, p0p3, Pez
20:41 <\u03b5> oh yes 13v13 fortress
20:43 <Vanhayes> 11 on 11 actually
20:48 <Vanhayes> way too much clusterfucking for a good game with that many
20:50 <\u03b5> yeah
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20:52 <Vanhayes> wow thta cleared out fast
20:52 <Vanhayes> .si ds
20:52 <tronner> Vanhayes: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate\'s Mega Fortress: Players (8/32): .pRu|AbsYntH, Abbo, °°Hay-Lin, °°Sandglass, divineviolence (divineviolence@ct/public), Flex, Miklet, yakup king
20:53 <Vanhayes> argh i suggested some of us got to onslaught then ended up in the USA one alone and now the eu is full
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21:06 <K-Yo> .as
21:06 <tronner> K-Yo: This data is 47 seconds old; Fortress Onslaught (12/12), The YELLOW Submarine (11/12), ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress (10/32), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (8/12), Norm's Home (7/12), -  [ Nano's Playground | Nano Standard ]  -         . (6/8), -=æ~'Untitled'sæ=- Capture The Flag (4/10), ..D.o.g.F.i.g.h.t.. (4/8), Wild West  =High Rubber= (4/16), Flower Power Sumo Assault (4/12), ~Wild (1 more message)
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21:25 <noob13> .sd fort
21:25 <tronner> noob13: Fortress Onslaught: Players (11/12): -||BS|ChrisGW (ChrisGW@forums), 75, ct-eddie, CT×ZaP, CT~Voodoo, Fluffles, freako, Pez, QUARG, Vanhayes (Van-hayes@forums), Xyron
21:25 <noob13> .ys
21:25 <tronner> noob13: The YELLOW Submarine: Players (12/12): AI team, billy, DR-DOS 1.0, DUmUD, Haze, Hyperion, JEDI MASTER, Milk, saragei, sealion, |DnL
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00:31 <akira_arma> .as
00:31 <tronner> akira_arma: This data is 84 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (12/14), Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!) (9/16), Wild West  =High Rubber= (8/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (8/10), .dBd|High Rubber (7/8), ->Precision. Practice | Sumo (6/16), The YELLOW Submarine (6/12), -=æ~'Untitled'sæ=- Capture The Flag (5/10), |FA| Black Tar! (5/16), .:Prutopolis:. .:CTF:. (5/10), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (2 more messages)
00:31 <akira_arma> .sd sumo
00:31 <tronner> akira_arma: ->Precision. Practice | Sumo: Players (6/16): -=VcL.Se7eN\', -=VcL.UnHóly <, Dante, jfacas_Portugal, Liz, Obsi
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02:28 <Vanhayes> .as
02:28 <tronner> Vanhayes: This data is 172 seconds old; Team Unknown.uNk|Fortress [EU] (17/32), Wild West  =Sumo= (11/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), ~Wild Night~Loose~ (7/8), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (7/14), Wild West  =High Rubber= (6/16), -=F²=- Fatal Force Loose DF Server (5/4), ~Wild Night~ (5/10), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (5/12), The YELLOW Submarine (5/12), |FA| Black Tar! (3/16), ID Clan -=}< (1 more message)
02:37 <noob13> .eightball green?
02:37 <tronner> noob13: Yes!
02:37 <noob13> .eightball one more for the road?
02:37 <tronner> noob13: Unlikely.
02:37 <noob13> .eightball perhaps just one more beer?
02:37 <tronner> noob13: Obviously.
02:38 <noob13> .sd fort
02:38 <tronner> noob13: Team Unknown.uNk|Fortress [EU]: Players (15/32): -=VcL.Student, ->P.Mkay-1, .×] Hoax (Hoax@forums), Abbo, Amazing, ¶Potter, brick, Desolate, nara, punny, Radian (radian@forums), Ricochet, Tobe, Vanhayes (Van-hayes@forums), Visual
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02:58 <Flex> .nexus9
02:59 <Flex> .n9
02:59 <Flex> .ping
02:59 <tronner> pong
02:59 <Flex> .nexus
02:59 <Flex> .sd n8
02:59 <tronner> Flex: There doesn\'t seem to be a server matching “n8” at the moment, sorry
02:59 <Flex> .sd n9
02:59 <tronner> Flex: There doesn\'t seem to be a server matching “n9” at the moment, sorry
02:59 <Flex> .sd nexus9
02:59 <tronner> Flex: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (0/16):
03:00 <Flex> yay
03:00 <akira_arma> ...
03:00 <Flex> wotutolkinaboat
03:05 <noob13> .ping
03:05 <tronner> pong
03:05 <noob13> .as
03:05 <tronner> noob13: This data is 23 seconds old; Team Unknown.uNk|Fortress [EU] (10/32), Wild West  =Sumo= (9/16), Swampland Mud Puddle (8/8), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (8/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (7/10), -=F²=- Fatal Force Loose DF Server (7/8), ~Wild Night~Loose~ (7/8), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (5/10), XZL  -=High Rubber=-  Mirror (4/16), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (4/14), Wild West  =High Rubber= (1 more message)
03:06 <noob13> .urbandict akira
03:06 <tronner> noob13: Definition: An anime and manga created by Otomo Katsuhiro. The manga ran from 1982 to around 1993, and the movie was released in 1988. Often considered to be the definitive anime film, Akira is a science fiction/cyberpunk that features excellent animation and a unique musical score. The movie isn't as complex as the manga, but it still features many important philosophical lessons (especially concerning the (2 more messages)
03:08 <akira_arma> :o
03:08 <noob13> .moew
03:08 <noob13> .more :P
03:08 <noob13> .more
03:08 <tronner> noob13: abuse of power). The movie is also very violent and action packed, but it is also extremely entertaining. Akira is a cult film as well, and it has been popular with many underground anime fans since 1990 when it was dubbed in English.   Overall, Akira was an important movie that redefined anime and introduced a new approach to Japanese animation. It opened the door for anime to the West as well as inspiring (1 more message)
03:08 <noob13> grr
03:09 <noob13> .more
03:09 <tronner> noob13: movies such as the Matrix. Example: Akira is a sophisticated, futuristic anime that deserves the hype and legend that surround it. Reminiscent of 2001: a Space Odyssey and Blade Runner.
03:09 <noob13> i have yet to watch your movie akira :P
03:09 <akira_arma> :O
03:10 <akira_arma> do it.
03:10 <noob13> do it i shall.
03:19 <Flex> what is akira
03:20 <Flex> nm read the above
03:20 <Flex> cartoons..
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03:45 <sinewav> luke-jr: ping
03:45 <luke-jr> sinewav: ...
03:46 <sinewav> luke-jr : hey man, sorry about all this. my account is verrifiedn now and I'm transering funds there. I thought it would be done today, but not yet I guess.
03:47 <sinewav> Everything is crazy at my place right now. No Internet access either.
03:47 <luke-jr> sorry to hear that :(
03:47 <sinewav> Would you like me to pay a few months in advance?
03:47 <luke-jr> shrug
03:47 <luke-jr> whatever you need to do :p
03:47 <sinewav> I have lots of cash, but no way to get it to you immediately :S
03:47 <sinewav> stupid Internet.
03:47 <luke-jr> np
03:48 <luke-jr> I'm not currently in a $-or-die situation
03:48 <Vanhayes> do you owe the mob money?
03:48 <ct|kyle> wow when did you get out of that luke-jr?
03:48 <sinewav> My conspiracy theory mind thinks this Internet outage was deliberate by my ISP for filing "net-neutrality" petitions...
03:48 <Vanhayes> oh you arent currently in a $ or die nvrm
03:49 <Vanhayes> what is the net neutrality thing again?
03:49 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: ?
03:50 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: the $-or-die situation
03:50 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: the last one was a one-day thing
03:50 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: net neutrality is supposed to be regulations to disallow ISPs from filtering traffic
03:50 <luke-jr> I think
03:50 <luke-jr> I suspect it is too invasive tho
03:51 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: that's correct
03:51 <luke-jr> it probably means people can't pay for priority bandwidth either
03:51  * luke-jr would not be opposed to ISPs have prepaid priority bandwidth
03:51 <luke-jr> deposit $5 and get your ToS bits respected!
03:51 <Vanhayes> by filtering traffic you mean a form of censorship?
03:51 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: some US ISPs block BitTorrent, for example
03:52 <Vanhayes> ah ok
03:52 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: almost all of them block ports 80 and 25 inbound
03:52 <ct|kyle> I think it's more they can't restrict the access to the net they can't block or throttle any ports
03:52 <luke-jr> hmm
03:52 <luke-jr> you know, if that goes through, we're in for a new virus swarm
03:52 <luke-jr> currently ISPs stop a number of virii by blocking insecure Windows ports
03:53 <ct|kyle> that may be within law still I'm sure its a 100 page or so document
03:53 <Vanhayes> heh they have self esteem issues?
03:53 <ct|kyle> but then again maybe people will realize that windows is crap
03:54 <Vanhayes> get it, "insecure"
03:54 <Vanhayes> bah humour is wasted in you people
03:54 <Vanhayes> on*
03:54 <sinewav> :|
03:54 <ct|kyle> sinewav: you use 0.2.8.3 right?
03:54 <Vanhayes> sorry humor
03:55 <sinewav> ct|kyle: yeah rc4
03:56 <ct|kyle> sinewav: I was going to see if you could test a server but the more I think about it I know it won't work for you either :/
03:58 <sinewav> ok
04:01 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: what's a quick and dirty way of creating a zone w/o xml
04:01 <ct|kyle> in 0.3 of cource
04:02 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: not possible
04:03 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: why?
04:03 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: I would suggest rewriting/porting that CT feature in a branch
04:03 <luke-jr> because nobody has implemented it
04:03 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: that is what I'm working on now
04:04 <ct|kyle> I found that I can keep SPAWN_ZONE and set type like effect would be set
04:04 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: see if you can make it flexible enough to use Zones v2 features
04:04 <ct|kyle> I put it in zFortress for right now and just Quick an ddirty but I can't seam to get it to show up
04:04 <luke-jr> well that shouldn't be merged.
04:05 <luke-jr> it doesn't belong anywhere near there
04:05 <ct|kyle> should be in zZone right?
04:05 <luke-jr> perhaps
04:05 <ct|kyle> or gPharser
04:05 <luke-jr> perhaps
04:05 <luke-jr> :p
04:05 <ct|kyle> gParser*
04:05 <luke-jr> it certainly shouldn't be part of an optional module
04:05 <ct|kyle> but for right now it really does not matter that it is in zFortress when it is SPAWN_FORTRESS_ZONE
04:06 <ct|kyle> I did not realize when I started writing the code I could use the effect when creating zone
04:08 <luke-jr> ...
04:09 <ct|kyle> but what I was thinking for polygon and other zones other than circles it may be best to load them in with XML like ed's idea to create 12 identical fish
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04:12 <ct|kyle> but right now all I awnt to do is spawn a simple circle fortress zone
04:13 <luke-jr> nou
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06:12 <orbisvicis> there are so many config files im a bit confused. I have settings.cfg (which includes settings_visual.cfg) settings_dedicated.cfg (which includes settings_custom.cfg and server_info.cfg)
06:13 <orbisvicis> which files get read by the dedicated server ?
06:13 <orbisvicis> ('cause settings.cfg includes network settings too :( )
06:23 <ct|kyle> settings_custom.cfg
06:24 <ct|kyle> and probably some others (I don't remember then all
06:27 <ct|kyle> settings.cfg  and settings_dedicated.cfg  are laded when server starts
06:27 <ct|kyle> which means settings_custom.cfg and server_info.cfg are then loaded too
06:28 <ct|kyle> along with autoexec.cfg
06:29 <orbisvicis> complicated
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06:30 <ct|kyle> and of course you can INCLUDE what other configs you want loaded in those
06:31 <ct|kyle> anyway \u03b5 that means I gtg (it's too late)
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06:33 <orbisvicis> me too
06:33 <orbisvicis> anyway rethinking setting up a server
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07:03  * luke-jr notes only settings_custom and server_info should be modified
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17:14 <Vanhayes> .as
17:14 <tronner> Vanhayes: This data is 84 seconds old; Fortress Café (15/32), The YELLOW Submarine (12/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (6/10), -  [ Nano's Playground | Nano Standard ]  -         . (5/8), Wild West  =High Rubber= (4/16), Swampland Mud Puddle (3/8), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (3/12), Flower Power Sumo Assault (3/12), WILDCAT (2/8), Griffin (2/16), |FA| Black Tar! (1/16), Flynn's Arcade #2 (Brakes) - .:Avl:. Clan (1 more message)
17:42 <madmax> #tea
17:42 <armabot> madmax: Fortress Café: Players (18/32): -)@, -»|slashy (slashy@forums), .dBd|xXMiPXx, .×] Liza (Liza@forums), Ayda, Banana Joex, Bellum (steam@forums), CT_B3eR, Fluffles, iskra, Lizmatic, lol, MaZuffeR, newbÎe, Player 1, ~|DS|~zion (zion@forums), °°Runo, ¶Pøtter
17:42 <madmax> man, I was about to get some stuff done
18:18 <akira_arma> :)
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19:17 <akira_arma> .as
19:17 <tronner> akira_arma: This data is 94 seconds old; [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (11/12), The YELLOW Submarine (10/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (10/14), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (6/12), |FA| Black Tar! (4/16), Wild West  =High Rubber= (4/16), ---===<<<[ 2Fast2Dangerous ]>>>===--- (4/10), WILDCAT (4/8), -  [ Nano's Playground | Nano Standard ]  -         . (4/8), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (Europe) (4/10), Flower (1 more message)
19:18 <akira_arma> .more
19:18 <tronner> akira_arma: Power Sumo Assault (3/12), -=VcL.Clan High Rubber (100mbit) (3/16), Fortress Café (3/32), ..D.o.g.F.i.g.h.t.. (2/8), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= Mirror 8 (1/12), Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!) (1/16), Wild West  =Dog Fight= (1/16), ~Wild Night~Loose~ (1/8), Swampland Mud Puddle (1/8)
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22:56 <akira_arma> got some spare time nemo?
23:10 <akira_arma> nvm :)
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00:24 <Vanhayes> .as
00:24 <tronner> Vanhayes: This data is 86 seconds old; -=F²=- Fatal Force Loose DF Server (11/12), Wild West  =Sumo= (9/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (9/10), Wild West  =High Rubber= (8/16), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (8/12), The YELLOW Submarine (8/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (7/14), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (6/12), ~Wild Night~ (5/10), Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!) (4/16), ~Wild Night~Loose~ (3/8), ID Clan (1 more message)
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00:58 <Vanhayes> .as
00:58 <tronner> Vanhayes: This data is 215 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (12/14), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (9/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (8/10), ~Wild Night~Loose~ (8/8), The YELLOW Submarine (8/12), Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!) (6/16), -=F²=- Fatal Force Loose DF Server (6/8), ..D.o.g.F.i.g.h.t.. (5/8), Swampland Mud Puddle (5/8), ID Clan -=}< Capture the FLAG (4/10), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (1 more message)
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01:23 <noob13> .sg fort
01:24 <tronner> noob13: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: (8/14), SpeedeRs (Fortress): (0/32), Ladle Fortress (Ferr\'s Test Server): (0/16), Team Unknown.uNk|Fortress [EU]: (0/32), .×] Twi¦×¦ted ¦×¦ats Fortress (EU) [×.: (0/18), .×] Twi¦×¦ted ¦×¦ats CTF w/ FortFzx (US) [×.: (0/16), .×] Twi¦×¦ted ¦×¦ats Fortress (US) [×.: (0/32), ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate\'s Mega Fortress: (0/32), -||BS| Broken Silence ~Fortress: (2 more messages)
01:24 <noob13> >:|
01:27 <akira_arma> .as
01:27 <tronner> akira_arma: This data is 25 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (9/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (8/14), The YELLOW Submarine (6/12), Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!) (5/16), Wild West  =Sumo= (5/16), Wild West  =High Rubber= (5/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (5/10), ~Wild Night~Loose~ (4/8), Swampland Mud Puddle (4/8), ~Wild Night~ (3/10), -  [ Nano's Playground | Nano Standard ]  -         . (3/8), Wild (1 more message)
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02:26 <Vanhayes> .as
02:26 <tronner> Vanhayes: This data is 56 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (9/12), Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!) (8/16), Wild West  =High Rubber= (8/16), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (7/12), ID Clan -=}< OPEN SuMo (6/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (6/14), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (5/10), ~Wild Night~Loose~ (5/8), The YELLOW Submarine (5/12), -=æ~'Untitled'sæ=- Capture The Flag (4/10), Wild West  =Capture The (1 more message)
02:41  * akira_arma invites Vanhayes to a Tronolism therapy
02:58 <noob13> hehe
02:58 <noob13> .sd fort
02:58 <tronner> noob13: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: Players (3/14): -=_Clumy_=-, HappyFace, wallaceburger
03:05 <Vanhayes> onslaught anyone?
03:16 <Vanhayes> bed it is then
03:16 <Vanhayes> #night
03:16 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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03:20 <ct|kyle> .sg fort
03:20 <tronner> ct|kyle: Wild West  =Fortress Shootout=: (1/12), Wild West  =Wild Fortress=: (1/12), SpeedeRs (Fortress): (0/32), Ladle Fortress (Ferr\'s Test Server): (0/16), Team Unknown.uNk|Fortress [EU]: (0/32), .×] Twi¦×¦ted ¦×¦ats Fortress (EU) [×.: (0/18), .×] Twi¦×¦ted ¦×¦ats CTF w/ FortFzx (US) [×.: (0/16), .×] Twi¦×¦ted ¦×¦ats Fortress (US) [×.: (0/32), ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate\'s Mega Fortress: (0/32), (2 more messages)
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06:51 <luke-jr> http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/armed-house.jpg
06:53 <sinewav> hilarious.
06:53 <ct|kyle> ya
06:54 <luke-jr> bet he never has to use his guns
06:54 <luke-jr> I want that sign
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06:55 <ct|kyle> I want that too, but I don't think any of my neighbours are actually for banning guns
06:56 <luke-jr> lol
06:57 <luke-jr> mine either :/
06:57 <luke-jr> well, not on the west side anyhow
06:57 <luke-jr> maybe my east?
06:58 <Lucifer> I'm for banning guns, but I want to legalize swords
06:58  * ct|kyle points sight in Lucifer's direction
06:58 <ct|kyle> sign*
07:00 <Lucifer> considering that the biggest tactical problem in self defense with guns is actually drawing your weapon, you get the same problem with long knives
07:00 <Lucifer> except that with throwing knives, the problem just sorta goes away
07:01 <Lucifer> otherwise, the guy pointing the gun at you is doing it point blank anyway, well within knife reach
07:02 <Lucifer> if I can draw a gun to shoot him, I can draw a knife and stab him
07:02 <Lucifer> and knives never run out of ammunition
07:02 <luke-jr> ...
07:02 <luke-jr> you just run out of knives
07:05 <Lucifer> throwing knives, yes, but not other knives
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18:17 <akira_arma> .as
18:17 <tronner> akira_arma: This data is 30 seconds old; Fortress Onslaught (10/12), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (9/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (Europe) (9/10), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (8/12), The YELLOW Submarine (8/12), WILDCAT (6/8), OBSI'S-->-=FRIENDLYZONEPLS=-<--OBSI'S (5/10), -=Pls Res Us!=- -=Sumo=- (5/32), Swampland Mud Puddle (4/8), ..D.o.g.F.i.g.h.t.. (3/8), ~Wild Night~ (3/10), boneyard (2/16), Wild West (1 more message)
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19:14 <Vanhayes> .as
19:14 <tronner> Vanhayes: This data is 124 seconds old; [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (11/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (Europe) (10/10), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (9/12), The YELLOW Submarine (9/12), -=F²=- Fatal Force Loose DF Server (7/12), WILDCAT (4/8), Norm's Home - The Classic Fun (4/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (4/14), Wild West  =Dog Fight= (3/16), Swampland Mud Puddle (3/8), (1 more message)
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20:16 <akira_arma> .as
20:16 <tronner> akira_arma: This data is 44 seconds old; The YELLOW Submarine (11/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (9/10), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (8/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (8/14), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (Europe) (7/10), WILDCAT (5/8), Swampland Mud Puddle (5/8), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (5/12), Bugfarm Tournament (3/16), -  [ Nano's Playground | Nano Standard ]  -         . (3/8), (1 more message)
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22:02 <tronner> akira_arma: This data is 38 seconds old; [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (12/12), The YELLOW Submarine (9/12), -=F²=- Fatal Force Loose DF Server (8/12), WILDCAT (8/8), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (7/14), Norm's Home - The Classic Fun (6/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (Europe) (6/10), Fortress Onslaught (5/12), Wild West  =High Rubber= (4/16), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (4/10), ~Wild Night~Loose~ (4/8), (2 more messages)
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23:08 <Vanhayes> .as
23:08 <tronner> Vanhayes: This data is 35 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (13/14), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (9/10), -=F²=- Fatal Force Loose DF Server (8/12), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (8/12), Wild West  =High Rubber= (7/16), ID Clan -=}< OPEN SuMo (7/12), The YELLOW Submarine (7/12), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (6/10), ~Wild Night~ (6/10), ~Wild Night~Loose~ (6/8), Swampland Mud Puddle (5/8), SPACEZONE II S (1 more message)
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23:50 <noob13> .sd fort
23:50 <tronner> noob13: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: Players (7/14): +noobest, ===============, hardçore.§wi$, iþer, niro, Sl33py

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02:39 <akira_arma> .as
02:39 <tronner> akira_arma: This data is 142 seconds old; ~Wild Night~Loose~ (8/8), |FA| Black Tar! (7/16), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (7/10), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (6/10), Swampland Mud Puddle (6/8), Wild West  =High Rubber= (5/16), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (5/12), The YELLOW Submarine (5/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (5/14), ID Clan -=}< OPEN SuMo (4/12), .dBd|High Rubber (4/8), ~Wild Night~ (4/10), Wild (1 more message)
02:40 <noob13> .sd no rubber
02:40 <tronner> noob13: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (0/16):
02:55 <Vanhayes> wild west has a fort game going akira_arma
03:03 <ct|kyle> .ctwf
03:03 <tronner> ct|kyle: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: Players (3/14): modis, oddiamt, zach`
03:03 <Vanhayes> ct|kyle, is there a ct server with an abrv. of ctwff or ctff?
03:07 <ct|kyle> Vanhayes: not that I can think of why?
03:07 <Vanhayes> someone kept asking me to go there and I had no idea what it was
03:08 <Vanhayes> emaybe they just mixed something up
03:09 <ct|kyle> must have mixed something up
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03:55 <ct|kyle> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open_source_games  shouldn't armagetron be arcade and not racing?
04:02 <akira_arma> :)
04:06 <noob13> .urbandict racing
04:06 <tronner> noob13: Definition: When 2 or more men are urinating at the same time and it becomes a race to see who can finish urinating first. Example: Todd and Jimmy were racing in the men's room after they consumed a large amount of liquids.
04:07 <noob13> heh :)
04:07 <ct|kyle> heh
04:08 <ct|kyle> s|liquids|beer
04:09 <noob13> yes, and in our case, its about who can keep urinating the longest :P
04:09 <ct|kyle> or keep from urinating the longest?
04:10 <noob13> last one to still be urinating wins the round?
04:11 <ct|kyle> the last one that starts urinating wins the round
04:12 <noob13> sounds like an awful game :/
04:17 <Vanhayes> i hate when people lock one team so they can get random people to play against them but leave the other team open
04:17 <Vanhayes> gets to be like 12 on 5 or 6 and complete shit for gameplay
04:18 <ct|kyle> on where can you do that?
04:19 <noob13> happens frequently, i dont like it either
04:19 <akira_arma> Well doesn't happen THAT frequently anymore
04:20 <akira_arma> since dubstep got reprimanded that is
04:20 <akira_arma> but I agree it's annyoing
04:22 <noob13> some teams with their own server still do that, admitteldy my team has done that too..
04:22 <noob13> just to check their skills against a large number of opponents
04:23 <Flex> that's fine noob13
04:23 <akira_arma> what annoys me that it usually fuck ups a more or less good public game
04:23 <akira_arma> is*
04:23 <Flex> think they're mostly concerned with public games being turned into that
04:23 <Flex> which can be a bit boring
04:24 <akira_arma> i can't use the custom camera, flex
04:24 <akira_arma> i simply can'T
04:24 <noob13> its not too fun being on the other team tho
04:24 <akira_arma> :/
04:24 <noob13> how come akira_arma?
04:25 <akira_arma> i tried 1000 settings but nothing changes the fact that the whole grid turns
04:25 <akira_arma> i get sick :(
04:25 <noob13> the grid doesn't turn, its all you :P
04:25 <akira_arma> yea but the result is a grid turn
04:25 <akira_arma> on my screen
04:26 <akira_arma> and all the other walls with it
04:26 <noob13> true, have you tried drinking less alcohol?
04:26 <akira_arma> ...
04:26 <noob13> :)
04:26 <akira_arma> I don't drink that much
04:26 <Flex> akira_arma
04:26 <Flex> take a screenshot of your game
04:26 <akira_arma> Flex.. I do not need to
04:26 <Flex> i'd like to see how it looks.. maybe some settings specifically might be causing it
04:27 <akira_arma> because I can't change the fact the custom camera is not smartcam
04:27 <akira_arma> that*
04:27 <noob13> maybe turning high rim off would help.
04:27 <akira_arma> it has nothing to do with the rims
04:27 <akira_arma> it has everything to do with the other walls
04:27 <Flex> you're weird
04:28 <noob13> the cycle walls you mean?
04:28 <akira_arma> likely
04:28 <akira_arma> yes
04:28 <Flex> screenshot?
04:28 <akira_arma> ?
04:28 <akira_arma> your usual, custom cam settings
04:28 <noob13> i have that sensation sometimes, rarely...
04:28 <akira_arma> rise from 5 to 35
04:28 <noob13> you might get used to it?
04:28 <Flex> no i want to see what your settings are like, with a screenshot
04:28 <akira_arma> back from 5 to 35
04:28 <akira_arma> i tried alot
04:29 <Flex> it's the motion sickness you're getting
04:29 <akira_arma> yes but i cant cahnge that
04:29 <akira_arma> smartcam is bearable
04:29 <Flex> spoke to a doctor, it could be more serious than just something to do with the game..
04:29 <noob13> :P
04:29 <akira_arma> nah its nothing serious
04:29 <akira_arma> i am just sensible
04:30 <akira_arma> ;)
04:30 <Flex> simulation sickness..
04:30 <noob13> focus on the bike, akira_arma, and turn off all unnecessary fancyness
04:30 <akira_arma> anyways I am fine with samrtcam
04:30 <akira_arma> I just need to concentrate alot
04:30 <akira_arma> so i dont forget the other walls in my mind
04:30 <akira_arma> :)
04:30 <Flex> http://www.siggraph.org/education/materials/HyperVis/virtual.env/percept.iss/simulate.htm
04:31 <noob13> ha!
04:31 <Flex> that's it right?
04:31 <akira_arma> umm doesn'T matter
04:31 <akira_arma> something similar
04:32 <akira_arma> whatever
04:32 <Flex> 10 year old page, though
04:32 <akira_arma> basically the balance system gets fucked or sth.
04:32 <Flex> Studies have found that the following are more likely to cause sickness:
04:32 <Flex> bright images rather than dim (night time) ones,
04:32 <Flex> wide fields of view
04:32 <Flex> CRT systems rather than dome projection systems
04:32 <Flex> and in motion systems, motion at 0.2 hz is particularly nauscogenic.
04:32 <akira_arma> of course
04:33 <akira_arma> as i said
04:33 <akira_arma> the prob are the bright walls turning
04:33 <Flex> try some of the suggestions
04:33 <akira_arma> Umm I am fine :)
04:33 <noob13> interesting page.
04:33 <akira_arma> as logn as I play with samrtcam :)
04:33 <Flex> use custom cam!
04:33 <noob13> custom beats the hell out of smart, its true
04:34 <akira_arma> no shit
04:34 <akira_arma> but look how good I am with smart
04:34 <akira_arma> ;)
04:34 <Flex> not relevent! :p
04:34 <noob13> have you tried a movie pack? :p
04:34 <akira_arma> Angel amde an akira moviepack for me years ago
04:34 <Vanhayes> im partial to smart, always have used it, too late to change now
04:34 <Flex> Vanhayes, never too late
04:34 <akira_arma> I lost it though
04:34 <Flex> it's like a level increase, so to speak
04:35 <Flex> akira_arma, i speak to angel now and then, i can ask her
04:35 <noob13> actually being able to see whats going on..
04:35 <Flex> if it actually solved the issue
04:35 <akira_arma> no it didnt..
04:35 <akira_arma> I was just talking about a moviepack..
04:35 <Vanhayes> oh and the thing about a team using 5 or 6 vs 12 is that it doesnt help the team with 12 it helps the team with 6 so its noot good practice
04:36 <akira_arma> see noob13 thats the advantge of smartcam
04:36 <akira_arma> you have to keep the layout in mind
04:36 <Flex> Vanhayes, it depends on what you're trying to do
04:37 <akira_arma> ah wahtever I played 6 years with smartcam.. same as hayes
04:38 <akira_arma> did you try changing some smartcam settings hayes?
04:38 <noob13> if you're used to playing with it, guess it should be cool. custom does help with a certain sense for direction though.
04:38 <Vanhayes> well since 0.3 came out i usually hold down forward glance now, so it adds a little hight to the camera in smart
04:39 <Vanhayes> Flex, well in every game where it is 4 or more difference for one team the team with less player's almost always won
04:39 <akira_arma> because the big team has 4 more newbs?
04:39 <akira_arma> :)
04:40 <Vanhayes> just imagine a game of 12 on 12 you have played lots of tks and suicides at the start and horrible grinding for the ost part, then imagine a 6 on 6 game
04:40 <Vanhayes> not to mention that game had everyone shuffling up to pos 1-3
04:41 <Vanhayes> and then 3 different pos 1 decided to tk the team
04:41  * noob13 blames z-man-work
04:42 <akira_arma> hmm someone should disable multiple keybindings :)
04:43 <noob13> but rly, if there're notably more players on one team, they usually die of boredom before they even get an attempt at attack
04:43 <akira_arma> I can already hear the cry of rage
04:43 <noob13> i'd be screwed for the most part :P
04:43 <noob13> just for having become used to my multi-binds
04:44 <akira_arma> i play with only 1 hand actually
04:44 <akira_arma> left:4 right:6 brake:5
04:44 <akira_arma> on numpad
04:44 <luke-jr> akira_arma: uh, that's already done in 0.2.8
04:44 <akira_arma> and some glances on wasd
04:44 <luke-jr> akira_arma: servers just need to enable it
04:45 <akira_arma> ah
04:45 <akira_arma> !!
04:45 <akira_arma> enforce it :)
04:45 <noob13> plenty of empty servers after that
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04:52 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: why do you like a browser that fails miserably at the acid3 test?
04:54 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: it used to be in the lead
04:55 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: of course, only Safari actually passes
04:55 <Flex> which browser?
04:55 <luke-jr> Flex: Konqueror
04:57 <Vanhayes> what is the acid3 test?
04:58 <ct|kyle> firefox is beating it too luke-jr and chrome
04:58 <luke-jr> ...
04:58 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: nope
04:58 <Vanhayes> hmm firefox has a 93 it shows
04:58 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: Chrome gets 100/100, but still fails
04:59 <ct|kyle> I get 94 on latest firefox from trunk
04:59 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: that's not a pass either
04:59 <luke-jr> and trunk doesn't count
04:59 <ct|kyle> and it says 89 for konqueror
04:59 <Vanhayes> no t is a fail, looks like its only a pass/fail test
05:00 <luke-jr> yes, Konq 4.3.2 gets 89/100
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05:00 <ct|kyle> and current release of firefox is 93
05:00 <luke-jr> I said "used to"
05:01 <Vanhayes> either its what does ie get?
05:01 <Vanhayes> er
05:01 <luke-jr> ...
05:01 <luke-jr> 6?
05:01 <Vanhayes> i was typing another sentence and forgot to delete it there
05:01 <luke-jr> IE8 gets 20/100
05:02 <Vanhayes> wow ie fails hard
05:02 <luke-jr> note the "at time of ACID 3 release" results ;)
05:02 <Vanhayes> it looks nothing like it
05:02 <luke-jr> Firefox was 52/100
05:02 <Vanhayes> i just tried it
05:02 <luke-jr> Konqueror was 61/100
05:02 <Vanhayes> i think it shows a 12
05:02 <luke-jr> proof that Konqueror is more compliant when not tested/forced
05:03 <luke-jr> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid_3#Desktop_browsers_2
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05:05 <ct|kyle> heh ya it is 20 LMAO and it takes a while to render it
05:06 <ct|kyle> it hangs at 12 for a few seconds
05:11 <ct|kyle> wow windows 7 's enterface is really shitty, stuff jumping around not refreshing right
05:11 <luke-jr> http://images.pcworld.com/news/graphics/174176-win7_whopper_350.jpg
05:11 <ct|kyle> hell that looks better than windows 7
05:12 <akira_arma> umm am i wrong or is win7 the copy/paste f some linux functionality onto the win paltform?
05:13 <Flex> does linux have a recycle bin?
05:13 <ct|kyle> LOL, I opened then closed MS paint and it stayed painted to my desktop
05:13 <Flex> i thought not..
05:13 <akira_arma> you can configure one
05:13 <akira_arma> also
05:13 <ct|kyle> I have a trash can
05:13 <akira_arma> why the heck do you need one?
05:13 <luke-jr> Flex: Linux isn't an OS
05:13 <Flex> what is it
05:14 <luke-jr> a kernel
05:14 <luke-jr> a complete desktop OS needs a DE, both major ones support trash bins
05:14 <akira_arma> DE?
05:14 <Flex> ct|kyle, that never happens to me..
05:14 <luke-jr> Desktop Environment
05:14 <akira_arma> ok
05:15 <ct|kyle> probaboly because I had just searched for all 1177 .sys files
05:16 <Flex> so it's performance related
05:18 <ct|kyle> no, I think it's just windows 7 sucks
05:18 <ct|kyle> I'm using the same PC I tested windows vista on
05:19 <Flex> a properly set up windows xp can run on easly for 1 month.. i can prove it myself
05:19 <Flex> http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/8420/31days.jpg
05:20 <Flex> maybe i should of used the command prompt to get a better report, but still
05:21 <ct|kyle> windows xp != windows 7
05:23 <ct|kyle> you can stil loose windows on windows 7
05:23 <Flex> windows vista was windows millennium/me
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05:24 <ct|kyle> according to just about everything windows 7 should preferm better on winds vista hardware than vista did
05:26 <Flex> sounds right
05:26 <ct|kyle> well it is about even imo is not worse
05:27 <Flex> windows vista and 7 is best described like one of those bloated media players
05:28 <ct|kyle> lol this is fun loosing windows
05:32 <Flex> need to sleep for 4hours!
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05:32 <ct|kyle> heh no games show up on it LOL
05:39 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: that's because they finally started building with gcc
05:41 <ct|kyle> with a few words to describe it "it's an ugly mess"
05:41 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: are your spark plugs bad?
05:41 <Lucifer> no
05:42 <Lucifer> I was considering pulling the plug out of the #1 cylinder so I could stick a screwdriver in it to find TDC
05:42 <Lucifer> then I found that there was, indeed, a mark on the harmonic balancer for me to use instead
05:42 <ct|kyle> ah
05:49 <ct|kyle> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZOop-mnKEk&feature=player_embedded
05:52 <Vanhayes> #night
05:52 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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19:01 <akira_arma> .as
19:01 <tronner> akira_arma: This data is 112 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (13/14), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (11/12), The YELLOW Submarine (11/12), ID Clan -=}< OPEN SuMo (7/12), |FA| Black Tar! (6/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (6/10), ~Wild Night~Loose~ (5/8), WILDCAT (5/8), Wild West  =High Rubber= (3/16), ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress (3/32), -=Pls Res Us!=- -=Sumo=- (2/32), -  [ Nano's (1 more message)
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21:04 <Vanhayes> 1 space open in fortress onslaught if anyone wants it
21:27 <Vanhayes> MaZuffeR, did the server shut down for you?
21:27 <MaZuffeR> yes
21:27 <Vanhayes> ah ok, wasnt just me then
21:47 <ct|kyle> I like the new loading izone on firefox
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22:42 <madmax> #as
22:42 <armabot> madmax: This data is 30 seconds old; [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (12/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (12/14), -=Pls Res Us!=- -=Sumo=- (11/32), The YELLOW Submarine (11/12), Fortress Onslaught (11/12), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (8/10), ID Clan -=}< Capture the FLAG (7/10), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (6/10), Wild West  =High Rubber= (5/16), ~Wild Night~Loose~ (5/8), Swampland Mud (1 more message)
22:42 <madmax> #sd onsl
22:42 <armabot> madmax: Fortress Onslaught: Players (11/12): -»|FoFo, GoDZilla, Greta Garbo, HÂy-LÎn, Lizmatic, MaZuffeR, meatball, Monkey.D.Luffy, SpinAce, Tobe, |FW~Mac&Cheese
22:43 <madmax> #sd -v onsl
22:43 <armabot> madmax: Fortress Onslaught (87.106.101.25:4540) running 0.2.8-sty+ct_alpha20091009 unix dedicated, url: http://www.armagetronad.net, Description: “Teams take turns to defend or attack.Respawns are on, but you have just 3 lives each.Highest score after 6 rounds wins.“, Players (11/12): -»|FoFo, GoDZilla, Greta Garbo, HÂy-LÎn, Lizmatic, MaZuffeR, meatball, Monkey.D.Luffy, SpinAce, Tobe, (1 more message)
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Log from 2009-10-25:
--- Day changed Sun Oct 25 2009
00:22 <Vanhayes> .si ons
00:22 <tronner> Vanhayes: Fortress Onslaught: Players (12/12): -»|FoFo, .×] JS, .×] Liza (Liza@forums), ct-eddie, cT¬speed, D3pth~, free kill (dlh@generalconsumption.org), LÔÛÎsÊ-LÎn, madmax (madmax@forums), MaZuffeR, nara, Sya
00:23 <Vanhayes> argh its full
00:23 <akira_arma> hehe
00:23 <akira_arma> pooooooooooor vanhayes
00:24 <Vanhayes>  /admin kick ct-eddie
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00:24 <Vanhayes> i doubt that would work on his own server
00:25 <Vanhayes> why are people freaking out over swine flu? it hasnt even killed as many people as regular flu yet
00:26 <akira_arma> want a comprehensive answer?
00:26 <akira_arma> do you*
00:26 <Vanhayes> now i just want to rant
00:26 <Vanhayes> no*
00:27 <akira_arma> clearly a propganda hoax
00:27 <Vanhayes> im guessing that too
00:27 <akira_arma> with several applications
00:27 <akira_arma> instill fear , maximize profits
00:27 <Vanhayes> how much is a flu shot in the states now?
00:27 <akira_arma> i am guessing 5-10
00:27 <akira_arma> buckas
00:27 <akira_arma> no idea though
00:28 <Vanhayes> sounds about right
00:28 <akira_arma> the major application is to bombard the population with a neverending stream of external issues
00:28 <akira_arma> see war on "terror"
00:28 <Vanhayes> seems to be working for the most part
00:29 <akira_arma> yes
00:29 <akira_arma> to continue the transfer of real waelth and power to the top of the hierarchy
00:29 <akira_arma> I mean the bets examples are those bank "bailouts"
00:30 <akira_arma> I am really astonished that there is no revoltuion
00:30 <akira_arma> but that just shows how docile and fucked up we all are
00:30 <Vanhayes> im not, most people get bombarded with news stories saying how the world might end soon if you dont follow the govt
00:31 <akira_arma> yes you are too
00:31 <akira_arma> we are separated
00:31 <Vanhayes> i meant im not astonished
00:31 <akira_arma> ah
00:31 <akira_arma> yea I am not too :(
00:31 <akira_arma> for the most part
00:31 <Vanhayes> i wouldnt call myself docile more apathetic then anything
00:31 <Vanhayes> comes down to the same thing
00:31 <akira_arma> well the exact word doesn'T amtter
00:32 <akira_arma> yep
00:32 <akira_arma> any real influence over something important is taken away from the individuals
00:33 <akira_arma> but it really doesn'T matter in the long run
00:33 <Vanhayes> the thing is I could go protest it get as many people as I can to do it too, but all that would mean is i wouldn't be working
00:33 <akira_arma> it's just so sad for the existing life on earth
00:33 <akira_arma> protesting doesn't work
00:34 <akira_arma> only thing that would work is to destroy the bases of power of the heirarchy
00:34 <Vanhayes> if enough people did it I imagine it could, but there will never be enough
00:34 <akira_arma> but gl with that :)
00:34 <Vanhayes> ya, thats where the apathy comes in
00:34 <akira_arma> since a major base is the warping of the society
00:34 <akira_arma> but i guess you realize that too
00:35 <akira_arma> if you just talk to "normal" people
00:36 <akira_arma> also you can eb sure they run ehavy simulations of economic and social movements
00:38 <akira_arma> the funny thing is that I get labelled as communisst, conspiracy nut, or wahtever if you talk to others about it
00:38 <akira_arma> when I just speak about the formation and redundancy of the historical evolved hierarchy
00:38 <akira_arma> sad :/
00:39 <Vanhayes> communism and socialism have become very skewed lately
00:39 <akira_arma> actually they are just words
00:47 <cpayan> flu shots are about twenty bucks where I am.
00:50 <akira_arma> :o
00:54 <cpayan> yep
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01:13 <Vanhayes_> argh
01:18 <Vanhayes_> Vanhayes, ping
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01:42  * Lucifer has given up on capitalism.  All it ever seems to do is concentrate most of the wealth and power into the hands of a few.
01:43 <Lucifer> not willing to go to the well-ordered societies run by the government that socialism wants, but otherwise in philosophy I agree with socialism :)
01:44 <Lucifer> let's keep working on this open source thing and see if we can't come up with a more workable alternative to socialism that beats both capitalism and socialism
01:45 <luke-jr> lol
01:46 <cpayan> "free as in beer" as a form of government.
01:46 <cpayan> Alcohocracy
01:47 <Vanhayes_> i can get behind that
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01:48 <akira_arma> lucifer it's WAY too late
01:50 <Lucifer> akira_arma: it's never too late, at least, not until all the nukes have been launched
01:50 <Lucifer> society never changes in massive revolutions
01:50 <Lucifer> at least, not successfully
01:51 <Lucifer> has to be done piecemeal, like it always has
01:51 <Lucifer> organic, not engineered
01:51 <Vanhayes> eeemy plan is to save up enough money so i can go nomad across the world
01:51 <luke-jr> Korea's done some engineered revolutions ;)
01:52 <Lucifer> luke-jr: and they're one of the most poverty-stricken nations in the world (N Korea, at least, and historically all of Korea)
01:52 <Lucifer> planned societies have never lasted longer than a century
01:52 <Lucifer> and they always go back to capitalism when they're over, because capitalism is what you have if you do nothing
01:52 <ct|kyle> if they stop spending our money they won't need as much money and we'll have more money
01:53 <akira_arma> the nukes won't be launched at all
01:53 <Lucifer> what we should be trying to work on is a society tht respects the rights of workers, puts reasonable checks on the power of the elite, and replaces capitalism as a default economic model using no government
01:53 <akira_arma> lol
01:53 <cpayan> Vanhayes, why would you need money to go nomad?
01:53 <akira_arma> the heirarchy does not want to destroy their grazing ground
01:53 <cpayan> well, a lot of money?
01:54 <akira_arma> its
01:54 <Lucifer> cpayan: because "going nomad" is very different than going homeless and begging for change
01:54 <Vanhayes> because without money nomad turns into hobo
01:54 <cpayan> Meh, you don't need to beg for change. There's always something to do somewhere.
01:55  * Lucifer wants to know what happened to his packing tape
01:55 <Lucifer> I know it got packed into a container that didn't need to be taped up
01:56 <cpayan> you packed your packing tape
01:56 <cpayan> :)
01:57 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: do you think the government was bad before the 1900's
01:58 <Lucifer> that was probably when it was the worst
01:58 <Lucifer> I think the US government has actually gotten better since then
01:58 <Lucifer> but quite frankly, I don't have time for this discussion :)
01:58 <Lucifer> I have to dump a bunch of things, pack up what I can take with me to Kansas, and then get on the road tomorrow evening
01:59 <Lucifer> what I can't put in the hands of people who need/want has to go in the trash
01:59 <ct|kyle> Kansas? what for?
02:03 <Vanhayes> him and luke-jr are finally embracing who they are and moving in together?
02:03 <luke-jr> I haven't lived in Kansas for over 4 years
02:04 <Vanhayes> don't fight it
02:14 <ct|kyle> ya luke-jr moved because of a stupid church (what a stupid reason)
02:16 <luke-jr> ct|kyle fails
02:18 <Vanhayes> you moved because of a church?
02:18 <ct|kyle> Vanhayes: it was in his Christmas letter a few years ago
02:18 <Vanhayes> he has a christmas letter?
02:19 <ct|kyle> he did once
02:19 <Vanhayes> that would be quite a read
02:23 <ct|kyle> LOL
02:23 <ct|kyle> he did not send me the video http://dashjr.org/~luke-jr/tmp/Xmas/tmp/
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02:28 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: the letter is http://dashjr.org/letters/Christmas2007.html
02:30 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: Vanhayes wanted that
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02:06 <Lucifer> I just want to remind everybody that sitting in a church doesn't make anybody more religious in much the same way tht sitting in a garage doesn't make anybody a car
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02:10 <Lucifer> actually, if luke-jr (hi there!) is still in Omaha, we might be within roadtrip range of each other
02:10 <Lucifer> maybe I should get a real sword
02:11 <Lucifer> 4 hours, according to google maps
02:25 <Vanhayes> #night
02:25 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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02:28 <cpayan> See, Lucifer, if you'd have just stayed in Texas, you could just keep a gun.
02:36 <Lucifer> but i don't know how to use a gun!
02:36 <Lucifer> I *do* know how to use a sword.
02:36 <Lucifer> big difference
02:36 <luke-jr> ...
02:36 <Lucifer> fight with the weapons you know how to use, that is, if you want to win
02:37 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: should be easy to find him, he'll be the one with this sign in his yard http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/armed-house.jpg
02:38 <luke-jr> good luck getting past my automated armed defense system
02:40 <cpayan> i'm sure guns come with an owner's manual.
02:44 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: so other than going to see luke-jr why are you going to kansas
03:08 <Flex> that's funny.. i guess that household doesn't pay taxes to the government for them to have police do the shooting.
03:11 <Flex> till the day we can figure out how to bring people back from the dead, guns should be illegal..
03:11 <cpayan> no, WEAPONS should be illegal.
03:11 <cpayan> Don't single out guns, if that's your stance.
03:12 <Flex> why? it's not as easy as banning all weapons.. there's a lot of sharp objects in the house to be considered a weapon
03:12 <cpayan> Well if death's your problem, don't single out one way to kill someone.
03:13 <cpayan> It doesn't make any sense.
03:13 <Flex> it does make sense.. you're just trying to argue some sort of logic to it.. not the average joe is an assassin who can murder someone with a blunt object or a kitcken knife..
03:14 <Lucifer> cancer shoudl be illegal, while we're at it
03:14 <Lucifer> and car accidents
03:14 <Flex> anyone can pick up a weapon and pull the trigger. i'd like my chances to at least have a struggle before getting killed.. (not that i live in america and all the house's are high risk robberies)
03:15 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: because I can't stay in austin anymore, so I'm going to go stay with my bro in kansas
03:15 <cpayan> And not every average joe has a gun to go out and go on a killing spree.
03:15 <Lucifer> and banning guns won't make them any harder for criminals to get them anyway
03:15 <cpayan> Lucifer, man, murder should be illegal... :)
03:15 <Lucifer> mind you there've been shooting sprees in Europe, too
03:15 <Lucifer> and there was that guy in Japan that went on a killing spree with knives
03:16 <noob13> :P
03:16 <Lucifer> I agree, don't single out guns for either banning or protection
03:16 <Lucifer> dammit, I want to carry a sword!
03:16 <Lucifer> so, your rifle might be legal, but if you affix a bayonet to it, it's not legal anymore
03:16 <Flex> that kind of reasoning is stupid.. the whole reason of easy gun access is because of the legal side to it..
03:17 <Lucifer> Flex: you've never shopped for anything on the black market, have you?
03:17 <Lucifer> you can get anything, except maybe for Champix
03:17  * Lucifer tried to get Champix that way already
03:17 <Lucifer> and just like pirated music, you don't get any artificial limits
03:17 <Flex> no i haven't and i'm not denying you can get it in the black market in europe too
03:17 <Lucifer> if you buy a machine gun on the black market, it fucking works like a machine gun
03:18 <Lucifer> but if you buy it legally, you have to make illegal modifications to make it work the way it was designed
03:18 <Flex> you're defending gun crime with cancer rates and car accidents..
03:18 <Lucifer> I'm not defending gun crime at all ;)
03:19 <Lucifer> I happen to agree with the reasoning that if one person had a gun at Virginia Tech, the casualties would have been much less
03:19 <Flex> people are nuts.. it doesn't require a gun to kill someone.. nobody is oblvious to that..
03:19 <Flex> here in london.. people get stabbed for looking weird at someone else
03:19 <Lucifer> but I also agree that you don't want a bunch of guns being carried around on campus, legal or illegal
03:19 <Flex> stabbed shot, ect.. it will never end, but the fact that you are not closing a gap in a flow is just not helping
03:19 <Lucifer> see, nobody commits crimes with the guns they legally registered
03:19 <Flex> arguing for it, isn't helping either
03:20 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: ah well good luck in Kansas
03:20 <Lucifer> once you legally register your gun, you *can't* commit a crime with it without getting caught
03:20 <Flex> there's a shooting range.. go sign up and use guns all you like
03:20 <Lucifer> if your gun is used in a crime, you're the first suspect
03:20 <Flex> report it stolen?
03:20 <Lucifer> if you're innocent, you may be liable for letting your gun fall into the wrong hands
03:21 <Lucifer> even if you reported it stolen, you may still be liable for it's use in a crime
03:21 <Flex> if it's stolen?
03:21 <Flex> right
03:21 <Lucifer> owning a gun is a serious responsibility, you have to protect people from accidental firings, and also make sure it can't be stolen :)
03:21 <Lucifer> you can't loan it to anybody, yadayada
03:22 <Lucifer> that's why people who do shady things prefer to own illegal weapons, because there's no legally registered ballistics profile for the gun
03:22 <Flex> you think it's safe to say the masses should be carrying guns?
03:22 <Lucifer> no, I think the masses should be carrying swords
03:22 <Lucifer> or rather, I should be carrying a sword
03:22 <ct|kyle> so the classmate of mine that got shot and killed by his own gun is liable
03:22 <Lucifer> I'm fast enough with it that I'm willing to bet dollars to grape fruits that I can defeat 99% of gun-toting criminals with a sword
03:23 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: yep, but it's hard to sue him for it if he's dead
03:23 <Flex> and it's not that hard customize a legal gun to a unrecognizable one.. i pressume
03:23 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: actually, it still depends on the situation
03:23 <Lucifer> if your wife steals your gun and passes it to her lover to kill someone with it, you might be able to get out of it (but she won't)
03:23 <ct|kyle> actually it may not have been his gun
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03:23 <Lucifer> and in lots of states, it's not a criminal liability, so you won't do jail time over it
03:24 <Lucifer> you can just be sued by the victims' family
03:24 <Lucifer> well, I need to go get my smoker still
03:24 <Flex> guns kill = should be banned.. it's purely a killing tool.. unlike a WEAPON that can be a kitchen knife used to cut meat or other shit
03:24 <ct|kyle> he took it with him to his buddied and they were playing with arosol guns and then his buddies got real guns and then they shot him
03:24 <Flex> cpayan does that make more sense to you?
03:24 <Lucifer> was it accidental?
03:24 <Lucifer> Flex: we're all made out of meat and bone
03:24 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: ya
03:25 <cpayan> Flex, what do you think of bows and arrows, axes, clubs, baseball bats, machetes, that are used a lot in crimes
03:25 <cpayan> switchblades, as well.
03:25 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: different situation, then.
03:25 <Lucifer> they were just acting like dumb kids ;)
03:25 <Flex> well they're used for sports..
03:25 <Flex> someone can kill anyone with a damn brick
03:25 <Lucifer> oh sure, if letting an animal out of a cage ad then shooting him is to be considered a sport
03:26 <ct|kyle> ya, he would't have been who I thought would be the first person to be killed in my class
03:26 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: accidental shootings are one of the things gun laws try to address
03:26 <Lucifer> and usually fail, or succeed at the loss of other rights people should keep
03:26 <cpayan> Flex, guns are used for sport as well
03:26 <cpayan> shooting things.
03:27 <Lucifer> skeet shooting's an olympic sport
03:27 <cpayan> that thing they do in the winter olympics when they ski around and shoot things
03:27 <Lucifer> it's usually won by a redneck from America
03:27 <Flex> don't you need a license to be using guns for a sport?
03:27 <cpayan> you need a license to get a gun.
03:27 <Lucifer> yes, your gun has to be licensed and registered, and you need a hunting license if that's the kind of sport you do
03:27 <cpayan> at least in the US
03:27 <Lucifer> in most states there's a waiting period, even
03:27 <Flex> i don't know how the laws work in US, but in the UK.. you can't walk around in public with bows axes clubs baseball bats machetes ect ect
03:27 <cpayan> not Georgia. Scary place, that.
03:27 <Lucifer> to prevent jealous wives from going and buying a gun and then shooting their husbands
03:27 <Flex> anysort of blade or knife
03:28 <Flex> you will get arrested.. and they ahve the right to charge you
03:28 <cpayan> Lucifer, now they need to wait three days!
03:28 <Lucifer> you can in America provided certain conditions are met
03:28 <Flex> is it not like that in america?
03:28 <Lucifer> one: if it's an actual weapon, it must be secured and hard to use (i.e. if it's in your car, it should be in the trunk)
03:28 <cpayan> Well baseball bats are hardly controlled.
03:28 <Lucifer> two: you should be traveling to a place where you'll be using it legally
03:28 <cpayan> neither are machetes.
03:28 <Lucifer> three: there should be context
03:28 <cpayan> yea
03:28 <cpayan> that last one
03:28 <Lucifer> machetes are illegal, they're too long
03:29 <Flex> exactly... so it's still controlled by law
03:29 <Flex> to a limit to protect poeple
03:29 <Lucifer> but if you're walkin around downtown with a baseball bat at midnight, you're carrying an illegal weapon
03:29 <Lucifer> if you're walking to a park wearing baseball attire, carrying a bag full of baseball supplies that includes several bats, you're fine
03:29 <Flex> the police can't be everywhere every second.. but the fact that it's still illegal
03:29 <Lucifer> 5.5 inches is the longest blade you can legally carry in Austin
03:29 <Flex> so cpayan, your point doesn't work it totally true
03:30 <Lucifer> but if you're carrying it to a place where you will use it legally, and you're carrying it in such a way that it's not easy to use in a hurry, you're fine
03:30 <Lucifer> I carry a 54 inch stick for martial arts, and as long as I'm taking it some place to train, I'm perfectly fine to carry it
03:30 <Lucifer> but the context has to be there
03:30 <ct|kyle> wow only 3 inch blade in indiana
03:30 <Lucifer> it really does
03:31 <Flex> right, Lucifer
03:31 <Lucifer> I can carry my fire staff downtown in the middle of the night and I'm fine
03:31 <Lucifer> even though I don't have the permits I need to perform with it
03:31 <Lucifer> my fire staff is based on a martial arts weapon :)
03:31 <cpayan> More like as not, without some probable cause, you wouldn't get stopped if you have any of these things.
03:31 <Flex> and if a dodgy guy who is suspected to be a criminal, won't be able to get away if caught walking around with any of those things
03:31 <Flex> cpayan, being suspected is enough for it to be taken away
03:31 <Lucifer> well, carrying a baseball bat on 6th street at midnight is probably cause
03:32 <cpayan> Meh. Not in Miami. Cubans.
03:32 <cpayan> they play the baseball.
03:32 <Lucifer> plenty of baseball here, but 6th street is a bar/live music district, and there are no nearby lit parks
03:32 <Lucifer> the same person carrying near baseball fields that are lit up at the same time of night is perfectly fine
03:32 <Lucifer> unless he's black, this is Texas after all
03:33 <Flex> all i know is the masses are not to be trusted with something that can potentially kill someone with one simple pressure to the trigger..
03:33 <ct|kyle> I find all the rules for carring stuff at schools,
03:34 <ct|kyle> I mean you could kill someone with some sharp pencils
03:34 <Flex> you can kill someone by pushing them over
03:34 <cpayan> the masses?
03:34 <Flex> shit happens
03:34 <cpayan> man, that's pretentious.
03:34 <ct|kyle> you could kill someone with a packed book bag
03:35 <Flex> cpayan, that's why our world is fucked.. i think i have a right to be pretentious to those people
03:36 <cpayan> because what. You're a higher class of person? You put both pant legs on at once?
03:39 <Lucifer> I wear bikini-style briefs, that makes me a higher class of person
03:39 <Lucifer> bbiab
03:44 <Flex> what are we arguing about here? there's a right answer and an incorrect answer and the truth exists, if the choices people make as a common value are incorrect.. it's the truth that they're wrong, who's talking about classes?
03:44 <Flex> history shows i don't need to give a fuck.. doesn't necessarily make me think i'm higher class
03:45 <Flex> i'm talking about believing in logic not what the masses believe to be correct..
03:46 <cpayan> No, you're talking about taking rights away from the masses because they need to be paternally taken care of. This smacks of separating yourself and yours from the "lower classes."
03:46 <akira_arma> yet you drop logic when it comes to "political" themes
03:47 <akira_arma> calling me conspiracy nut
03:47 <Flex> akira_arma, some stuff you talked about was just too far fetched
03:47 <akira_arma> far fetched?
03:47 <akira_arma> lol
03:47 <Flex> evidence slim and facts lacking
03:47 <akira_arma> sure we have no heirarchy
03:47 <cpayan> That reminds me, my favorite thing this week
03:48 <cpayan> "HELM'S DEEP WAS AN INSIDE JOB, WAKE UP SHEEPLE"
03:48 <akira_arma> and sure 911 was bin laden and the 18 thugs
03:48 <cpayan> oh conspiracy theorists in lotr would have made it marginally better.
03:48 <akira_arma> the thing is I am nto talkign about a conspiracy at all I am talking about the existing hierarchy
03:48 <Flex> akira_arma, lets just blame the fact that these minons made it possible for the truth to be lost forever..
03:49 <Flex> so we will never know
03:49 <akira_arma> umm
03:49 <akira_arma> i dont need to know the exact names
03:49 <akira_arma> but when i see a controlled demolition I usually name it as such
03:49 <akira_arma> without any need of doublethink
03:49 <Flex> the masses i speak of.. that work to help powerful people ontop is the whole fucking shit i'm talking about..
03:50 <Flex> now i'm the person making classes up, because i don't like people that care about their income rather than making the world a better place
03:51 <Flex> lets not get 911 involved.. believe what you like akira.. i'm not saying it's false or true.. i have my own opinion
03:51 <Flex> lol
03:51 <akira_arma> umm
03:52 <akira_arma> the problem is that this is an iconic example for the propagnda
03:52 <akira_arma> and that singular event lead to the death of millions pof people
03:52 <akira_arma> in afghnaistan and iraq
03:53 <Flex> lets not blame key people.. lets blame the masses for letting that happen
03:53 <akira_arma> at least it was a major factor in the reasoning for the whole preemptive war prop
03:53 <akira_arma> yea sure
03:53 <akira_arma> too afraid to name people?
03:55 <Flex> no.. i just believe the masses were the cause. how do you let one man control 1million men? because the 1man was more intellegent than the other million, actually not even more intellegent, probably he was in the averange of intellgence within the million, but the fact that the masses control the picture probably disallowed the good to stop the bad..
03:56 <Flex> just an example, not really any specific event or moment that i'm talking about^
03:56 <Flex> but probably similar
03:57 <Flex> i think you guys were talking about socialism earler.. someone said something about only way to get to it or find a better social system is time.. which is imo totally true
04:03 <akira_arma> it isnt only 1 man
04:03 <akira_arma> the heirarchy is etched into our mind
04:03 <akira_arma> but nvm
04:03 <akira_arma> we can discuss this later
04:04 <Flex> na i'm not specifically saying it's one man, just trying to explain how the structure is working, imo
04:04 <akira_arma> umm
04:04 <akira_arma> to udnerstand it you have to look at historical processes
04:05 <akira_arma> and psychological processes
04:05 <akira_arma> its actually not that hard to see whats going on here
04:12 <Flex> gn
04:12 <Flex> another time
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04:23 <Lucifer> the trade center collapses weren't controlled demolitions
04:23 <Lucifer> if they were, they'd have gone a lot more smoothly :)
04:32 <akira_arma> yes sure
04:32 <akira_arma> yea*
04:32 <akira_arma> lol
04:32 <akira_arma> o well why do i even argue :/
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04:54 <Lucifer> BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW ANY PHYSICS!
04:54 <Lucifer> :)
04:54 <Lucifer> oh, he left already
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07:35 <P4> http://w827.wrzuta.pl/audio/1bkUXW3i8jZ/skambomambo_black_molly podoba sie? :)
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14:37 <Vanhayes> .as
14:37 <tronner> Vanhayes: This data is 58 seconds old; The YELLOW Submarine (12/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (Europe) (8/10), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (7/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (7/14), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (5/12), Wild West  =High Rubber= (4/16), WILDCAT (4/8), -  [ Nano's Playground | Nano Standard ]  -         . (2/8), >>> FAST TRACK DEATH WALLS (NO RIMING)<<< (2/12), Fortress Café (2/32), ~Wild (1 more message)
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17:14 <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r943 You can now use indentation in config files and strings intu...
17:28 <Flex> #ls akira
17:28 <Flex> .ls akira
17:28 <tronner> Flex: akira has last been seen on Fortress Onslaught 21 hours 9 minutes ago.
17:28 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9283 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (4 files in 2 dirs): epsy: You can now use indentation in config files and strings intuitively.
17:28 <armabot> Flex: timed out
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17:37 <dlh> .ls free kill
17:37 <tronner> dlh: free kill has last been seen on ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate\'s Mega Fortress 46 minutes ago.
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18:14 <ljrbot> New news from bzr: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r944 Whoops, typo....
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19:05 <Flex> .ls akira
19:05 <tronner> Flex: akira has last been seen on Fortress Onslaught 22 hours 47 minutes ago.
19:14 <Flex> z-man-work they need an admin in your fpl server, nobody seems to be team leader
19:52 <sinewave> well that was fucked.
19:52 <sinewave> no one with team leader status.
19:54 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9284 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/tools/tConfiguration.cpp): epsy: Whoops, typo.
20:08 <\u03b5> try /callvote referee <player> if the server is trunk
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20:39 <sinewave> \u03b5 : oh, that would have been a good idea. too bad I didn't think of it in time. thanks! I'll try to remember next time.
20:39 <\u03b5> but voting is a bit fuxxored on trunk for some reason I don't get
20:41 <sinewave> yeah, voting in fort onslaught is terrible. just terrible.
20:41 <sinewave> needs to be finxed soon.
20:41 <sinewave> trolls come back faster than you can kick them.
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20:52 <\u03b5> nah, voting itself
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23:29 <Vanhayes_> .as
23:30 <tronner> Vanhayes_: This data is 279 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (12/14), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), ID Clan -=}< OPEN SuMo (9/12), [] Cheers! [] Clan War In Progress (9/12), The YELLOW Submarine (9/12), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (8/10), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (8/12), Swampland Mud Puddle (7/8), Wild West  =High Rubber= (6/16), ~Wild Night~Loose~ (6/8), .Ã] Twi¦Ã¦ted ¦Ã¦ats Fortress (EU) [Ã. (1 more message)
23:35 <Vanhayes_> #ping
23:35 <armabot> pong
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00:16 <Flex> hi akira_arma
00:17 <Flex> you missed the game ;)
00:18 <akira_arma> did you win?
00:20 <akira_arma> seems yes
00:22 <Flex> yes
00:22 <Flex> 264-100
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01:59 <Flex> i'm confused by this issue, someone just downloaded armagetron and their console keeps appearing and is stuck
01:59 <Flex> anyone got a clue?
02:02 <dlh> It isn't bound to some key they are pressing?
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02:08 <Flex> ah na it was to do with his firewall.. weird
02:08 <Flex> worth a shot turning it off..
03:18 <ct|kyle> why do new people post op topics that were like 3 years old
03:20 <cpayan> was it still relevant?
03:21 <ct|kyle> not really
03:21 <ct|kyle> dogfight was not around back then and they started talking about it
03:24 <ct|kyle> http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=10201
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05:45 <armabot> lpbugs: [437380] 0.3 servers don't represent WIN_ZONE_INITIAL_SIZE correctly <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/437380> || [427506] Random client crash as spec on 0.2.8.3rc2 <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/427506> || [423182] zones don't work if there is no point 0,0 <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/423182> || [420529] Uninstall script generation loops <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420529> || [417254] Internal Camera Not Turning 
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18:26 <akira_arma> .as
18:26 <tronner> akira_arma: This data is 22 seconds old; The YELLOW Submarine (12/12), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (9/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (Europe) (9/10), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (7/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (6/14), WILDCAT (5/8), Wild West  =Dog Fight= (4/16), ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ|   .dBd| Nano's Zombie DF!   |ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ (3/10), SPACEZONE II S (3/15), SpeedeRs (Sumo) (3/32), :) Happy!! :) (2/16), - | D u r k a (1 more message)
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19:57 <\u03b5> #ping
19:57 <armabot> pong
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20:35 <\u03b5> .insult insults
20:35 <tronner> insults - You are nothing but a Microsoft-loving pile of gorbellied slurpee-backwash!
20:35 <\u03b5> why do I have headaches on every new twisted thing I try to use ?
20:35 <evaldusia> lol
20:35 <evaldusia> .insult Microsoft
20:35 <tronner> Microsoft - You are nothing but a Microsoft-loving pile of gorbellied slurpee-backwash!
20:36 <\u03b5> n1
20:36 <evaldusia> .instult tronner
20:36 <evaldusia> .instult ME
20:36 <evaldusia> damn
20:36 <\u03b5> it doesn't work if you misspell insult
20:36 <evaldusia> .insult tronner
20:36 <tronner> tronner - You are nothing but a Microsoft-loving pile of gorbellied slurpee-backwash!
20:36 <evaldusia> what if
20:36 <evaldusia> .insult
20:36 <tronner> - You are nothing but a Microsoft-loving pile of gorbellied slurpee-backwash!
20:36 <evaldusia> lol
20:37 <\u03b5> ]weather paris
20:37 <ljrbot> \u03b5: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
20:37 <\u03b5> .weather paris
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20:40 <\u03b5> 85.25.73.114:4538
20:40 <pygamequery> ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress (14/32)
20:40 <\u03b5> :-)
21:03 <ct|kyle> 67.202.107.235:4534
21:03 <pygamequery> Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress USA (0/14)
21:04 <ct|kyle> usa.crazy-tronners.com:4534
21:04 <pygamequery> Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress USA (0/14)
21:04 <ct|kyle> had to try it :)
21:05 <\u03b5> it should recognize about any form of arma links
21:06 <\u03b5> but can't query trunk servers
21:06 <\u03b5> also it handles translating to irc colors :)
21:06 <sinewav> ct|kyle: yo man, you busy?
21:07 <\u03b5> armagetronad://usa.crazy-tronners.com
21:07 <pygamequery> Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress USA (0/14)
21:08 <ct|kyle> sinewav: not really
21:08 <sinewav> I had a question about the FPL cfgs.
21:08 <sinewav> They don't have the GID of the team captains
21:09 <sinewav> shouldn't they?
21:09 <\u03b5> if i got it properly, there's a page that shows them
21:10 <ct|kyle> sinewav: we have http://pastebin.com/m59ad3713
21:11 <ct|kyle> ok back to watching about the Ares I-X
21:11 <Flex> USER_LEVEL ~*PsYkO*~@forums 7 should be
21:11 <sinewav> ct|kyle: wait, how is it possible no one had auth on a server this weekend?
21:11 <Flex> USER_LEVEL PsYkO@forums 7
21:12 <sinewav> and it looks like the list has changed recently.
21:12 <sinewav> http://fortresspremierleague.pbworks.com/Captain(s)%C2%A0Global-IDs
21:13 <sinewav> is it time for fpl21.cfg?
21:17 <ct|kyle> sinewav: I just never touch the settings I'll update user levels now
21:17 <sinewav> cool. after you're done I'll post a notice to update. thanks man.
21:20 <ct|kyle> GID's aren't included in the settings, server admins have to set them
21:21 <ct|kyle> but I could add one
21:22 <\u03b5> is it okay for a server admin to omit user levels from the server configurations and let the players use /callvote referee or such?
21:23 <Flex> i don't really like the idea of putting it into the config, g'ids should be seperate
21:24 <\u03b5> in a separate file, same biz
21:24 <sinewav> \u03b5: are all FPL servers trunk? I don't know anything about this. I'm trying to jump in and keep this thing going. It looks like Concord is AFK.
21:24 <ct|kyle> fpl_captains.cfg(http://crazy-tronners.com/resource/Concord/fortress/fpl_captains.cfg)
21:24 <\u03b5> sinewav, well, arrow's is
21:24 <ct|kyle> that's why I am doing nothing there yet
21:24 <ct|kyle> what*
21:24 <sinewav> Flex, what do you think?
21:24 <sinewav> call vote?
21:24 <Flex> what for?
21:25 <sinewav> I'm sorry, I meant "call vote refferee"
21:25 <sinewav> but then all servers have to be trunk...
21:25 <Flex> that's trunk only isn't it?
21:25 <sinewav> yeah
21:25 <Flex> yeah, some might not be able to provide that
21:25 <Flex> unless to check up each server on the fpl server list
21:25 <sinewav> and some captains might not show up, but the rest of the team does...
21:25 <sinewav> I'll look at servers now.
21:26 <\u03b5> I was talking about letting servers admins who have trunk servers omit fpl_captains.cfg and let players use /callvote referee
21:26 <Flex> sinewav, if you're making this a concern from yesterdays incident, then i think you shouldn't be concerned, because A, they shouldn't have started it without an admin or captain to lock the team and B, they should have made sure their captain makes all games
21:27 <Flex> i dunno, that's my opinion on the matter
21:27 <ct|kyle> trunk always crashes on ct's servers
21:27 <Flex> wasn't a config problem..
21:27 <ct|kyle> well it does not crash but it does not run right
21:27 <sinewav> Flex: right
21:27 <sinewav> not FPL servers are trunk
21:27 <sinewav> no*
21:27 <\u03b5> ct|kyle, I've noticed a crash while advertising to master servers sometimes
21:28 <Flex> how about including mod list ontop of captains list to the g'id list?
21:28 <sinewav> Flex: btw captains from both teams were there.
21:28 <sinewav> Flex good idea
21:28 <ct|kyle> \u03b5: ya it also has timer hickups too
21:28 <\u03b5> never had that, afaik
21:28 <\u03b5> checking
21:28 <Flex> then why didn't they lock it, we can't spoon feed this kind of issues
21:28 <ct|kyle> not often though
21:29 <\u03b5> nope, none
21:29 <Flex> sinewav, just start yourself off as the first mod.. i guess
21:30 <Flex> imo, the rest of the "mods" should be voted by captains.. but it's your league ;)
21:30 <sinewav> When I logged into that FPL server yesterday, I had no rights.
21:30 <\u03b5> I should share this server starting script I made in python
21:30 <ct|kyle> \u03b5: I keep getting [0] nKillHim signal caught.
21:30 <ct|kyle> [33] Killing user 33, ping 1.25.
21:30 <\u03b5> I get these all the time
21:31 <\u03b5> ill run a record off the bugfarm servers
21:31 <ct|kyle> and eventually the server stops respanding
21:31 <\u03b5> respanding?
21:31 <\u03b5> responding?
21:31 <Flex> ^
21:31 <ct|kyle> responding
21:31 <\u03b5> never noticed that
21:32 <ct|kyle> 67.202.107.235:4537
21:32 <\u03b5> arrow
21:32 <pygamequery> SpeedeRs (Fortress) (0/32)
21:32 <\u03b5> gah
21:33 <\u03b5> .sd -v arrow
21:33 <tronner> \u03b5: -»| Arrow\'s Fortress [EU] (94.23.36.9:4541) (rps5432.ovh.net) running 0.3_alpha_z1384 unix dedicated, url: http://arrowclan.freeforums.org, Description: “Café fortress settings.“, Players (0/32):
21:33 <\u03b5> 94.23.36.9:4541
21:33 <\u03b5> armagetronad://94.23.36.9:4541
21:33 <\u03b5> yeah
21:33 <Flex> dupleix.co.uk:4535
21:33 <pygamequery> SpeedeRs (Fortress) (0/32)
21:33 <\u03b5> seems to come up when you query it with an old request
21:34 <ct|kyle> \u03b5: actually it is crashing when connecting to masters
21:34 <\u03b5> ct|kyle, I had that a few times, as mentionned before
21:34 <ct|kyle> it happends a lot for me
21:35 <noob13> .sd fortress
21:35 <tronner> noob13: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate\'s Mega Fortress: Players (15/32): -»|oøxuëªox, .×] Liza (Liza@forums), .W33D, >k Hay-Lin, Bellum (steam@forums), faun, Goodygumdrops, ikono, Longball|mbc (Longballlasch@ct/public), Radian +, Sivo, triclugreflo, ~*DaWg*~, ~*Sigma*~ (Sasha@forums)
21:35 <ct|kyle> about every 3rd time
21:36 <ct|kyle> I guess I could cauth that line that is associates with failure to connect and make it restart
21:37 <ct|kyle> 67.202.107.235:4537
21:40 <ct|kyle> \u03b5: it seams to happen when
21:40 <ct|kyle> [0] nKillHim signal caught.  comes before the [0] Closing socket bound to
21:40 <\u03b5> er
21:40 <\u03b5> it crashes for you?
21:40 <\u03b5> I just get
21:41 <\u03b5> [0] nKillHim signal caught.
21:41 <\u03b5> [33] Killing user 33, ping 1.25.
21:41 <ct|kyle> if I get [0] nKillHim signal caught.  before the masters syncing is done the server crashes
21:42 <ct|kyle> and since I have it connect to crazy-tronners's master it makes sense that it would crash more often for me
21:42 <\u03b5> ok
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21:45 <ct|kyle> usa.crazy-tronners.com:4537
21:45 <ct|kyle>  usa.crazy-tronners.com:4534
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22:25 <Vanhayes_> ds
22:25 <Vanhayes_> .as
22:25 <tronner> Vanhayes_: This data is 56 seconds old; The YELLOW Submarine (12/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (11/14), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (9/12), ~Wild Night~ (7/10), ~Wild Night~Loose~ (7/8), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (6/10), ->Precision. Practice | Sumo (6/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (Europe) (6/10), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (5/12), WILDCAT (4/8), Team Unknown.uNk|Fortress [EU] (4/32), (1 more message)
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23:10 <noob13> whats the point of having like 10 wild west ctf mirrors? Oo
23:11 <noob13> random fact: there are currently 22 wild west servers out there
23:11 <noob13> some of which are thanks to obsi, i guess
23:12 <noob13> .sd fortress
23:12 <tronner> noob13: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: Players (9/14): CT_emphasis (emphasis@ct/leader), Dr. Who?, Kenny, maño, nerdo, niro (niro@ct/public), Perdio, Sleepy (Sl33py@ct/public), `WwRudy
23:12 <noob13> .fortune
23:12 <tronner> noob13: "If you're right 90% of the time, why quibble about the remaining 3%?\r\n\n[codehappy] http://iheartquotes.com/fortune/show/16322\n"
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02:40 <sine_awave> luke-jr: ping
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02:43 <luke-jr> ...
02:43 <luke-jr> email? :p
02:43 <sinewav> I sent you a second payment immediately after. we should be squared up.
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02:47 <ct|kyle> sinewav: we need to go to the Atlantic and recover the Aries 1-x upper stage rocket after it launches
02:47 <sinewav> ct|kyle: me and you?
02:47 <ct|kyle> why not :P
02:48 <ct|kyle> I'm sure you'd like to see what nasa was going to waste
02:48 <sinewav> no sailing experience. can't swin either.
02:49 <sinewav> not that I would swim in the ocean...
02:52 <Vanhayes_> not the atlantic, its almost always below 0
02:53 <luke-jr> sinewav: I guess
03:01 <Vanhayes_> .as
03:01 <tronner> Vanhayes_: This data is 7 seconds old; Wild West  =Team Sumo= (12/20), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (8/10), ~Wild Night~Loose~ (7/8), -=F²=- Fatal Force Loose DF Server (6/12), Wild West  =Dog Fight= (5/16), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (5/10), The YELLOW Submarine (5/12), OBSI'S-->-=FRIENDLYZONEPLS=-<--OBSI'S (4/10), -=æ~'Untitled'sæ=- Capture The Flag (3/10), |FA| Black Tar! (3/16), Wild West  =High Rubber= (1 more message)
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03:07 <ct|kyle> arg dam net cuts out always when I start talking
03:07 <ct|kyle> at least the logs are now updated again :)
03:09 <ct|kyle> sinewav: I don't think sailing you could toe a large object back :P
03:11 <sinewav> hmm.
03:33 <ct|kyle> sinewav: btw my incam fort server should now detect a problem starting up and restart on it's own :)
03:54 <sinewav> yay
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14:46 <Vanhayes_> .as
14:46 <tronner> Vanhayes_: This data is 44 seconds old; The YELLOW Submarine (11/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (8/14), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (4/12), Norm's Home - Classic Fun (4/12), -  [ Nano's Playground | Nano Standard ]  -         . (4/8), _~Capture The Flag~_ (3/16), SPACEZONE II S (3/15), |FA| Black Tar! (2/16), Wild West  =High Rubber= (2/16), WILDCAT (2/8), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (2/12), (1 more message)
14:47 <Flex> .ls flex
14:47 <tronner> Flex: FleX has last been seen on The YELLOW Submarine 2 minutes ago.
14:47 <Flex> wot
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14:53 <Vanhayes_> .ls Vanhayes
14:53 <tronner> Vanhayes_: Vanhayes has last been seen on .×] Twi¦×¦ted ¦×¦ats Fortress (EU) [×. 1 day 15 hours 13 minutes ago.
14:54 -!- Vanhayes_ is now known as Vanhayes
14:55 <Vanhayes> .si yell
14:55 <tronner> Vanhayes: The YELLOW Submarine: Players (10/12): #Anana$, $nAke, Denko, Espégle, Farmer, FleX, Horus, Nutellabrot<33, Om||Zozzo!, sealion
14:55 <Vanhayes> ha fleX
14:56 <Flex> i've seen flex's quite often, actually
14:59 <Vanhayes> thats why i like Vanhayes its hard to come on that by accident
15:02 <Vanhayes> except for the guy who's name is actually Van hayes
15:02 <Vanhayes> #google vanhayes
15:02 <armabot> Vanhayes: Van Hayes - Orlando, FL | Facebook: <http://www.facebook.com/people/Van-Hayes/523448291>; Van Hayes | Facebook: <http://www.facebook.com/people/Van-Hayes/1107290225>; van hayes: Directory: <http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/van/hayes>; John Van Hayes - LinkedIn: <http://www.linkedin.com/in/johnvanhayes>; Delilah Van Hayes (Delilah Van Hayes) | MySpace - myspace.com ...: (2 more messages)
15:02 <Vanhayes> there he is
15:06 <Vanhayes> yellow submarine seems to attract the "open" crowd
15:09 <Vanhayes> it is also really laggy
15:10  * noob13 agrees.
15:21 <Vanhayes> ugh its so fucking boring to watch people play open it always ends with a dz here
15:28  * noob13 agrees.
15:33 <Vanhayes> what does goo stricher mean?
15:35 <noob13> its surely not german
15:35 <noob13> could be dutch.
15:35 <Vanhayes> #google goo stricher
15:35 <armabot> Vanhayes: Gone, baby, Gone on Flickr - Photo Sharing!: <http://www.flickr.com/photos/darwinbell/3210286567/>; The Scales of Good and Evil: Part III: <http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/Pickover/good3.html>; .US Registrations by Top Registrants, with domain listings - Page ...: <http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/archived_content/people/edelman/dotus/US-topregistrants-l-4.html>; 資料検索: (2 more messages)
15:35 <MaZuffeR> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=stricher
15:36 <noob13> right!
15:36 <noob13> .urbandict stricher
15:36 <tronner> noob13: Definition: German slang word for usually gay male prostitute. Example: Der Junge da geht aufn Strich - er ist ein Stricher. The boy there walks the streets - hes a Stricher.
15:37 <Flex> lol
15:39 <Vanhayes> wow these guys in yeelow sub are talking about man whorers a lot
15:39 <Vanhayes> hmm i hope goo means something in dutch
15:40 <Vanhayes> hmm it can mean a man bitch too
15:42 <Vanhayes> .as
15:42 <tronner> Vanhayes: This data is 56 seconds old; The YELLOW Submarine (12/12), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (9/12), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (8/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (7/10), -  [ Nano's Playground | Nano Standard ]  -         . (5/8), SPACEZONE II S (3/15), ..D.o.g.F.i.g.h.t.. (2/8), OBSI'S-->-=FRIENDLYZONEPLS=-<--OBSI'S (1/10), |FA| Black Tar! (1/16)
15:42 <Vanhayes> the yellow submarine is a strange place
15:45 <Vanhayes> .si -v cheer
15:45 <tronner> Vanhayes: [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (85.25.64.75:4536) (angeltron.game-host.org) running 0.2.8.2.1 unix dedicated, url: http://armagetron.co.uk, Description: “A fun and friendly server. Please visit the forums for full server rules and acceptable gameplay guide.“, Players (10/12): ·ÞW¡ØRz, BFAM | JABBA, Dr.A¦Ø, hatus, QuickSilver, Snake, Terridon, vZ|Dang, |GW|.Leah
15:45 <Vanhayes> .si -v yell
15:45 <tronner> Vanhayes: The YELLOW Submarine (85.25.64.75:4538) (angeltron.game-host.org) running 0.2.8.2.1 unix dedicated, url: http://noobs.armagetron.co.uk, Description: “The official noob server. Settings are a work in progress, feel free to send in your suggestions.“, Players (12/12): *whisper*, cEgarT, daniLPA, Denko, Dochys, el_amo, Espégle, Grind, Horus, Om|Robie, Om||Zozzo!, |DnL
15:45 <Vanhayes> knew it, the both have horrible lag
15:45 <Vanhayes> and i was kicked, awesome
15:49 <Vanhayes> and people say fort players kick a lot, i was kicked for having a non euro ping
15:50 <Vanhayes> racism!
15:52 <Vanhayes> oh ya there is a fort game going on if anyone wants in
15:52 <Vanhayes> .si fort
15:52 <tronner> Vanhayes: -»| Arrow\'s Fortress [EU]: Players (11/32): -»|arks, -»|FoFo, -»|slashy (slashy@forums), .LucK, .pRu|Garial, bl0b, CT_B3eR (luiso@ct/junior), Dexkdes, Helios, N, Sergio
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19:19 <Vanhayes> .as
19:19 <tronner> Vanhayes: This data is 54 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (11/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (9/14), The YELLOW Submarine (8/12), -=VcL.Clan Sumo (100mbit) (8/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (7/10), WILDCAT (6/8), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (6/12), -=F²=- Fatal Force Loose DF Server (5/12), `|pNd+Pandemic ~-Loose DF~ (4/8), ..D.o.g.F.i.g.h.t.. (3/8), Norm's Home - Classic Fun (3/12), bluscared (1 more message)
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22:24 <noob13> MaZuffeR: did onslaught just crash?
22:25 <MaZuffeR> yes
22:25 <noob13> ok, not just me then :P
22:26 <noob13> too bad, i was just about to kill you when it happened ;)
22:26 <MaZuffeR> no, i was trapping you ;)
22:28 <noob13> guess we'll never know what would've happened...
22:40 <Flex> it's a challenge!
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23:03 <noob13> .sd fort
23:03 <tronner> noob13: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: Players (11/14): .pRu|Hell-lo, 3°d°o°t, °°AshitakA, °°Hay-Lin, Centrurøide_§, divineviolence (divineviolence@ct/public), moth, Potato Chef, triclugreflo, ~Viper~, ~|DS|~G5 (G5@forums)
23:03 <noob13> .sg fort
23:03 <tronner> noob13: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: (11/14), Fortress Onslaught: (2/12), SpeedeRs (Fortress): (0/32), -»| Arrow\'s Fortress [EU]: (0/32), Crazy Tronners InCam Fortress USA: (0/32), Ladle Fortress (Ferr\'s Test Server): (0/16), Team Unknown.uNk|Fortress [EU]: (0/32), .×] Twi¦×¦ted ¦×¦ats Fortress (EU) [×.: (0/18), .×] Twi¦×¦ted ¦×¦ats CTF w/ FortFzx (US) [×.: (0/16), .×] Twi¦×¦ted ¦×¦ats (2 more messages)
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23:37 <dlh> Hmm, onslaught just crashed

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01:06 <Flex> .ping
01:06 <tronner> pong
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01:36 <Vanhayes> #night
01:36 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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15:40 <Vanhayes> .as
15:40 <Vanhayes> #as
15:40 <tronner> Vanhayes: timed out
15:40 <armabot> Vanhayes: This data is 40 seconds old; [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (11/12), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (9/12), The YELLOW Submarine (8/12), |FA| Black Tar! (6/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (Europe) (6/10), Swampland Mud Puddle (5/8), ..D.o.g.F.i.g.h.t.. (3/8), Bluepasced (3/16), Norm's Home - Classic Fun (2/12), ---===<<<[ 2Fast2Dangerous ]>>>===--- (1/10), WILDCAT (1/8), Crazy Tronners (1 more message)
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20:39 <ct|kyle> sinewav: did you see the Aries 1-x launch today?
20:45 <sinewav> ct|kyle: not yet, I was just reading about it though. got a video link?
20:45 <ct|kyle> probably is streaming replays on nasa TV
20:46  * ct|kyle just changed desktop image from shuttle to that :)
20:46 <ct|kyle> a cropped version of http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/397589main_launch%203_full.jpg  (and darkened)
20:47 <ct|kyle> sinewav: http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/on_demand_video.html?param=http://mfile3.akamai.com/18566/wmv/etouchsyst2.download.akamai.com/18355//wm.nasa-global/ksc/ksc_102809_ares_launch.asx&_id=undefined&_title=undefined&_tnimage=test.gif
20:47 <sinewav> thanks, buffering...
20:51 <sinewav> Holy shit that was awesome. I always love the shots taken from the rocket itself.
20:52 <ct|kyle> sinewav: ya when they were airing all the replays those 2 were my favorite
20:53 <sinewav> seeing them tumble is pretty scary though.
20:53 <sinewav> made me uncomfortable.
20:53 <ct|kyle> ya that was not really predicted
20:53 <ct|kyle> but I think there would be a second engine there propelling it into orbit, so that tumble would not happen
20:56 <sinewav> That's what I thought too.
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21:37 <Vanhayes> .si ons
21:37 <tronner> Vanhayes: Fortress Onslaught: Players (0/12):
21:53 <ct|kyle> .sg ons
21:53 <tronner> ct|kyle: Fortress Onslaught: (7/12), Fortress Onslaught USA: (0/12)
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22:05 <P4> er… did i miss anything?
22:05 <P4> servergrep? (:
22:06 <\u03b5> shotgun
22:06 <P4> http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2445/4002050596_0c2b6c4dd2_o.jpg
22:07 <P4> or better http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/10/photomicrography/ :þ
22:41 <Flex> nice
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23:32 <akira_arma> .as
23:32 <tronner> akira_arma: This data is 74 seconds old; ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress (17/32), The YELLOW Submarine (11/12), -=VcL.Clan Sumo (100mbit) (9/12), WILDCAT (8/8), ~Wild Night~Loose~ (7/8), Swampland Mud Puddle (6/8), ..D.o.g.F.i.g.h.t.. (5/8), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (5/10), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (5/12), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (5/12), |FA| Black Tar! (4/16), Wild West  =High Rubber= (4/16), -  [ (2 more messages)
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03:52 <Vanhayes> .si ons usa
03:52 <tronner> Vanhayes: There doesn\'t seem to be a server matching “ons usa” at the moment, sorry
03:52 <Vanhayes> .si USA
03:52 <tronner> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners InCam Fortress USA: Players (0/32):
03:53 <akira_arma> .as
03:53 <tronner> akira_arma: This data is 4 seconds old; *SS* Clan Sumo (12/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), Fortress Onslaught (10/12), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (8/10), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (8/12), ~Wild Night~Loose~ (7/8), |FA| Black Tar! (5/16), ~Wild Night~ (4/10), Wild West  =Dog Fight= (2/16), LS's Love Sty (2/10), Wild West  =High Rubber= (1/16), The YELLOW Submarine (1/12)
03:53 <ct|kyle> .sg usa
03:53 <tronner> ct|kyle: Crazy Tronners InCam Fortress USA: (0/32), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo USA: (0/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress USA: (0/14), Fortress Onslaught USA: (0/12)
04:04 <Vanhayes> .si ons
04:04 <tronner> Vanhayes: Fortress Onslaught: Players (5/12): Doc, Jip, Lost, sine+wav, Vanhayes (Van-hayes@forums)
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04:08 <Vanhayes> .si  Fortress Onslaught USA
04:08 <tronner> Vanhayes: Fortress Onslaught USA: Players (6/12): ->P.Mkay-1, Bloo, f2pan, jessie, Poke\' Master, `WwRudy
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04:33 <Vanhayes> #night
04:33 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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04:47 <ct|kyle> sinewav: ping
04:52 <ct|kyle> sinewav: is  Admining: Global / team leaders; start time 17:45 / 18:45; Double Elimination: none / Minimal / Full  what needs voted on  only a few days till ladle
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07:13 <sinewav> #message ct|kyle thanks for setting up the voting thread man, I totally forgot.
07:13 <sinewav> ...
07:13 <sinewav> ]later tell
07:13 <ljrbot> sinewav: (later tell <nick> <text>) -- Tells <nick> <text> the next time <nick> is in seen. <nick> can contain wildcard characters, and the first matching nick will be given the note.
07:14 <sinewav> ]later tell ct|kyle thanks for setting up the voting thread man, I totally forgot.
07:14 <ljrbot> sinewav: The operation succeeded.
07:14 <sinewav> excellent.
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18:12 <Vanhayes> .as
18:12 <tronner> Vanhayes: This data is 131 seconds old; [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (8/12), The YELLOW Submarine (8/12), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (7/12), ..D.o.g.F.i.g.h.t.. (5/8), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (5/10), |FA| Black Tar! (4/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (Europe) (4/10), ~Wild Night~ (3/10), WILDCAT (3/8), SPACEZONE II S (3/15), >>> FAST TRACK RELOADED (VERY High Speed) <<< (2/12), Swedish Legion (1/16), (1 more message)
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20:41 <G5> forums is down ...
20:42 <ct|kyle> G5: seams like it
20:42 <ct|kyle> .m sinewav no problem
20:42 <tronner> ct|kyle: The operation succeeded.
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21:00 <akira_arma> .as
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21:42 <Vanhayes> where does windows vista put a screengrab, anyone know?
21:43 <PinkTomato> Vanhayes, um... clipboard, or is this something else?
21:44 <Vanhayes> well i remember in xp when you hit printscrn it used to dump it in the pictures folder
21:44 <Vanhayes> i think it did anyways its been a while since i used it
21:45 <Vanhayes> ah ok your right its in the clipboard
21:45 <PinkTomato> I don't rememeber that at all :)
21:47 <Vanhayes> maybe im thinking of somethign else
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21:58 <PinkTomato> Ubuntu did that I think
21:58 <PinkTomato> without warning the user, old and old ago
21:59 <akira_arma> @Flex
21:59 <akira_arma> kubuntu comes with a default trashbin
21:59 <akira_arma> gnome prob too
21:59 <PinkTomato> default trashbin?
21:59 <Flex> configured
22:00 <akira_arma> DEFAULT
22:00 <akira_arma> so your argument is pretty moot :)
22:01 <akira_arma> PinkTomato: Flex was whining that Linux GUIs didn't come with a default recycle/trash bin
22:01 <Flex> i was whining?
22:01 <akira_arma> saying*
22:01 <PinkTomato> it's on the taskbar in gnome
22:01 <akira_arma> I was just highlighting the point by exxagerating
22:01 <PinkTomato> even so, I never use it
22:01 <akira_arma> yea
22:01 <akira_arma> first thing i disable in windows OS anyways
22:02 <Flex> no use disabling it, tbh.. it would only use free disk space..
22:03 <PinkTomato> but files in it are using disk space
22:03 <Flex> but that was a few days ago or.. actually since last ladle was when i first mentioned it.. lol
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22:03 <Flex> zman told me, he didn't have it
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22:06 <akira_arma> don'T you only delete what should be deleted?
22:08 <akira_arma> anyways if you don't play games there is no reason to use windows :)
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22:19 <Vanhayes> ugh timed out from the server
22:26 <Flex> akira_arma, yeah true.. one of my main reasons why i'm on windows
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--- Day changed Fri Oct 30 2009
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01:20 <Lucifer> .pin g
01:21 <Lucifer> .ping
01:21 <tronner> pong
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02:22 <nsh22> Lucifer: gratz
02:26  * nsh22 sees a tumbleweed pass by
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02:29 <nsh22> aw, i scared him away
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02:34 <nsh22> Lucifer: wb
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02:48 <Vanhayes> .as
02:48 <tronner> Vanhayes: This data is 56 seconds old; Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (10/10), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (9/10), Wild West  =High Rubber= (8/16), ID Clan -=}< Team Knockout -=} Sumo< (8/12), Swampland Mud Puddle (7/8), -=F²=- Fatal Force Loose DF Server (6/8), -=æ~'Untitled'sæ=- Capture The Flag (4/10), '^|Inevitable Prodigies|^' (4/6), `|pNd+Pandemic ~-Loose DF~ (4/8), Zean's Awesome Server (4/16), The YELLOW (1 more message)
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--- Log opened Fri Oct 30 07:41:00 2009
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11:32 <Vanhayes> #date
11:32 <armabot> Vanhayes: 11:32 AM, October 30, 2009
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13:11 <\u03b5> boo i wanna be the first to report posts ;_;
13:20 <Vanhayes> ugh spam attacks almost everyday this week
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16:02 <noob13> .sg fort
16:02 <tronner> noob13: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate\'s Mega Fortress: (17/32), Team Unknown.uNk|Fortress [EU]: (3/32), SpeedeRs (Fortress): (0/32), Crazy Tronners InCam Fortress USA: (0/32), Ladle Fortress (Ferr\'s Test Server): (0/16), .×] Twi¦×¦ted ¦×¦ats Fortress (EU) [×.: (0/18), .×] Twi¦×¦ted ¦×¦ats CTF w/ FortFzx (US) [×.: (0/16), .×] Twi¦×¦ted ¦×¦ats Fortress (US) [×.: (0/32), -||BS| Broken Silence ~Fortress: (2 more messages)
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18:26 <madmax> #as
18:26 <armabot> madmax: This data is 22 seconds old; The YELLOW Submarine (11/12), ..D.o.g.F.i.g.h.t.. (8/8), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (8/10), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (8/12), Fortress Café (8/32), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (8/14), -=F²=- Fatal Force Loose DF Server (6/12), SPACEZONE III (6/15), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (5/12), -=VcL.Clan Sumo (100mbit) (5/12), |FA| Black Tar! (4/16), (1 more message)
18:27 <madmax> #tea
18:27 <armabot> madmax: Fortress Café: Players (8/32): .×] Liza (Liza@forums), CT×W123 (P4@ct/jedi), em_why_ay, fake_epsy, George, parsec, Pez, SpinAce
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18:56 <cusco> ola madmax
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19:52 <ct|kyle> \u03b5: is it ok to bring http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2464 back to life again
19:52 <pikey> anyone know if it's possible to "hide" lag spikes?
19:52 <pikey> so they're not shown
19:52 <\u03b5> ct|kyle, that would be perfectly fine with relevant content
19:52 <ct|kyle> ok
19:53 <ct|kyle> pikey: Shift + esc always works for me
19:53 <pikey> hah hah
19:53 <pikey> i dont want to get rid of lag
19:53 <pikey> just the spikes
19:54 <pikey> :)
19:54 <pikey> couldnt find any command
19:55 <madmax> cusco: o/
19:57 <cusco> tas bom
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20:09 <madmax> yup
20:13 <\u03b5> ahah after telling me how she spends all her time ruining people on facebook poker, I beat her in pokerth :d
20:13 <\u03b5> her being dubs
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20:14 <\u03b5> sinewav, I think I had to tell you you got an internet meme wrong
20:15 <sinewav> really? which one?
20:15 <\u03b5> something you posted recently
20:16 <\u03b5> let me see
20:16 <\u03b5> if the forums want to load
20:16 <sinewav> totally possible, I'm not to hip with the Internet lingo.
20:17 <sinewav> and it wouldn't be wrong, but a mutation, right? we're talking memes ;)
20:19 <MaZuffeR> i guess it was the 'i accidentally'
20:19 <sinewav> oh yeah, I was stretching that one a bit.
20:19 <ct|kyle> sinewav: remember to vote for your team :)
20:20 <sinewav> tonight probably
20:20 <ct|kyle> that's when I'm doing CT's
20:21 <pikey> hey sine
20:24 <\u03b5> ah yes
20:24 <\u03b5> sinewav, I accidentally the _whomle_ thing
20:24 <\u03b5> whole *
20:24 <\u03b5> you forgot whole
20:25 <\u03b5> you shall die in hell you idiott
20:25 <sinewav> oh great.
20:25 <sinewav> Internet hell?
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21:20 <Lucifer> whoever keeps taking my nickname needs to stop
21:20 <Lucifer> :/
21:22 <akira_arma> :)
21:28 <\u03b5> set enforce on
21:28 <\u03b5> on your nickserv account
21:29 <\u03b5> then nickstealerbastards get renamed if they don't auth
21:30 <Lucifer> [Notice] -NickServ- The ENFORCE flag has been set for account Lucifer_arma.
21:30 <\u03b5> :)
21:30 <Lucifer> thanks, we'll see how it works :)
21:30 <\u03b5> let someone try
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21:30 <lucifer> [21:24] -NickServ- You have 30 seconds to identify to your nickname before it is changed.
21:30 <Lucifer_arma> :)
21:30 <Lucifer_arma> what does it change it to?
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21:31 <Lucifer_arma> that's cool
21:31 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm a run off to the store, I"ll bbiab
21:32 <\u03b5> bb
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22:10 <Vanhayes> .as
22:10 <tronner> Vanhayes: This data is 21 seconds old; The YELLOW Submarine (12/12), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (11/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (11/14), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (9/10), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (9/12), -=Pls Res Us!=- -=Sumo=- (8/32), -=æ~'Untitled'sæ=- Capture The Flag (6/10), Wild West  =High Rubber= (6/16), ~Wild Night~Loose~ (6/8), -  [ Nano's Playground | Nano Standard ]  -         . (1 more message)
22:14 <noob13> .sg fort
22:14 <tronner> noob13: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: (13/14), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress USA: (1/14), SpeedeRs (Fortress): (0/32), Crazy Tronners InCam Fortress USA: (0/32), Ladle Fortress (Ferr\'s Test Server): (0/16), Team Unknown.uNk|Fortress [EU]: (0/32), .×] Twi¦×¦ted ¦×¦ats Fortress (EU) [×.: (0/18), .×] Twi¦×¦ted ¦×¦ats CTF w/ FortFzx (US) [×.: (0/16), .×] Twi¦×¦ted ¦×¦ats Fortress (US) [×.: (2 more messages)
22:14 <noob13> >:|
22:15 <Vanhayes> sanyone up for an onslught game?
22:15 <Vanhayes> anyone*
22:16 <Vanhayes> onslaught*
22:18 <Vanhayes> wow sheers has a rule that you can only speak english in public chat if you want to speak another language you have to /mdg :/
22:19 <noob13> cheers* msg* :P
22:19 <noob13> and yeah, its not a very strict rule...
22:19 <Vanhayes> bah im running on very little sleep atm, im surprised i can type at all
22:24 <akira_arma> you play too much tron hayes..
22:30 <Vanhayes> havent played yet today only only a bit last night
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22:31 <Vanhayes> and only*
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22:36  * akira_arma is in freenode irc network, stealing Lucifer's nic,
22:36 <akira_arma> nick*
22:37 <ct|kyle> .sg onslaught
22:37 <tronner> ct|kyle: Fortress Onslaught: (0/12), Fortress Onslaught USA: (0/12)
22:43 <\u03b5> is in YOUR freenode
22:43 <\u03b5> gah :(
22:44 <\u03b5> :-)
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23:40 <Vanhayes> .as
23:40 <tronner> Vanhayes: This data is 119 seconds old; [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (12/12), The YELLOW Submarine (12/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (8/14), ~Wild Night~Loose~ (7/8), .Ã] Twi¦Ã¦ted ¦Ã¦ats Sumo (US) [Ã. (7/32), Wild West  =High Rubber= (6/16), Swampland Mud Puddle (6/8), Fortress Onslaught (6/12), 1ON1 Sumo (Germany, EU) (5/32), ..D.o.g.F.i.g.h.t.. (4/8), ~Wild (1 more message)
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Log from 2009-10-31:
--- Day changed Sat Oct 31 2009
00:06 <Vanhayes> .si ons
00:06 <tronner> Vanhayes: Fortress Onslaught: Players (7/12): Ayda, Cosmic Dolphin, Desolate, Jip, jud, SpinAce, ubuntu_us3r
00:06 <akira_arma> :O
00:06 <sinewav> :)
00:06 <sinewav> let's go!
00:29 <akira_arma> oh
00:29 <akira_arma> ok :)
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08:35 <P4> lol…
08:35 <P4> .si demo
08:35 <tronner> P4: Lightfoot Hosting Demo Server (US): Players (3/16): .pRu.Ãí, §hãÐõW, CT×W123
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16:57 <ct|kyle> z-man-work: you have a ladle server right?
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17:49 <akira_arma> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/6453268/Council-bans-parents-from-play-areas.html
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19:33 <ct|kyle> zmanuel: do you have a ladle server?
19:34 <zmanuel> of course!
19:42 <ct|kyle> zmanuel: same place as last time simamo.de:4536
19:57 <ct|kyle> AshitakA: or someone else wanna help set ladle teams?
20:01 <ct|kyle> testing
20:01 <ct|kyle> .randomteam Plus Arrow_Clan Open_Team Team_uNknown PLEASE_RES_US! ~*SpeederS*~ Dark_Syndicate Crazy_tronners Twi¦×¦ted_¦×¦ats
20:01 <tronner> ct|kyle: http://crazy-tronners.com/kyle/random/rand091031190140.txt  Team_uNknown, ~bye~, PLEASE_RES_US!, Arrow_Clan, Plus, ~bye~, Twi¦×¦ted_¦×¦ats, ~bye~, Open_Team, ~bye~, Crazy_tronners, ~bye~, Dark_Syndicate, ~bye~, ~*SpeederS*~, ~bye~
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21:43 <zmanuel> ct|kyle: yep, same as last time.
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22:12 <ct|kyle> sinewav: ping
22:16 <sinewav> hold on a sec...
22:20 <sinewav> ct|kyle: ok man I'm free. whazzup?
22:26 <ct|kyle> sinewav: wanna set ladle brackets?
22:27 <ct|kyle> arg gtg again
22:27 <ct|kyle> we'll do it later
22:27 <sinewav> ok
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23:59 <ct|kyle> sinewav: ping
23:59 <sinewav> yo
23:59 <ct|kyle> ready to randomize?
23:59 <sinewav> yes


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