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Log from 2009-10-24:
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02:39 <akira_arma> .as
02:39 <tronner> akira_arma: This data is 142 seconds old; ~Wild Night~Loose~ (8/8), |FA| Black Tar! (7/16), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (7/10), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (6/10), Swampland Mud Puddle (6/8), Wild West  =High Rubber= (5/16), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (5/12), The YELLOW Submarine (5/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (5/14), ID Clan -=}< OPEN SuMo (4/12), .dBd|High Rubber (4/8), ~Wild Night~ (4/10), Wild (1 more message)
02:40 <noob13> .sd no rubber
02:40 <tronner> noob13: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (0/16):
02:55 <Vanhayes> wild west has a fort game going akira_arma
03:03 <ct|kyle> .ctwf
03:03 <tronner> ct|kyle: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: Players (3/14): modis, oddiamt, zach`
03:03 <Vanhayes> ct|kyle, is there a ct server with an abrv. of ctwff or ctff?
03:07 <ct|kyle> Vanhayes: not that I can think of why?
03:07 <Vanhayes> someone kept asking me to go there and I had no idea what it was
03:08 <Vanhayes> emaybe they just mixed something up
03:09 <ct|kyle> must have mixed something up
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03:55 <ct|kyle> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open_source_games  shouldn't armagetron be arcade and not racing?
04:02 <akira_arma> :)
04:06 <noob13> .urbandict racing
04:06 <tronner> noob13: Definition: When 2 or more men are urinating at the same time and it becomes a race to see who can finish urinating first. Example: Todd and Jimmy were racing in the men's room after they consumed a large amount of liquids.
04:07 <noob13> heh :)
04:07 <ct|kyle> heh
04:08 <ct|kyle> s|liquids|beer
04:09 <noob13> yes, and in our case, its about who can keep urinating the longest :P
04:09 <ct|kyle> or keep from urinating the longest?
04:10 <noob13> last one to still be urinating wins the round?
04:11 <ct|kyle> the last one that starts urinating wins the round
04:12 <noob13> sounds like an awful game :/
04:17 <Vanhayes> i hate when people lock one team so they can get random people to play against them but leave the other team open
04:17 <Vanhayes> gets to be like 12 on 5 or 6 and complete shit for gameplay
04:18 <ct|kyle> on where can you do that?
04:19 <noob13> happens frequently, i dont like it either
04:19 <akira_arma> Well doesn't happen THAT frequently anymore
04:20 <akira_arma> since dubstep got reprimanded that is
04:20 <akira_arma> but I agree it's annyoing
04:22 <noob13> some teams with their own server still do that, admitteldy my team has done that too..
04:22 <noob13> just to check their skills against a large number of opponents
04:23 <Flex> that's fine noob13
04:23 <akira_arma> what annoys me that it usually fuck ups a more or less good public game
04:23 <akira_arma> is*
04:23 <Flex> think they're mostly concerned with public games being turned into that
04:23 <Flex> which can be a bit boring
04:24 <akira_arma> i can't use the custom camera, flex
04:24 <akira_arma> i simply can'T
04:24 <noob13> its not too fun being on the other team tho
04:24 <akira_arma> :/
04:24 <noob13> how come akira_arma?
04:25 <akira_arma> i tried 1000 settings but nothing changes the fact that the whole grid turns
04:25 <akira_arma> i get sick :(
04:25 <noob13> the grid doesn't turn, its all you :P
04:25 <akira_arma> yea but the result is a grid turn
04:25 <akira_arma> on my screen
04:26 <akira_arma> and all the other walls with it
04:26 <noob13> true, have you tried drinking less alcohol?
04:26 <akira_arma> ...
04:26 <noob13> :)
04:26 <akira_arma> I don't drink that much
04:26 <Flex> akira_arma
04:26 <Flex> take a screenshot of your game
04:26 <akira_arma> Flex.. I do not need to
04:26 <Flex> i'd like to see how it looks.. maybe some settings specifically might be causing it
04:27 <akira_arma> because I can't change the fact the custom camera is not smartcam
04:27 <akira_arma> that*
04:27 <noob13> maybe turning high rim off would help.
04:27 <akira_arma> it has nothing to do with the rims
04:27 <akira_arma> it has everything to do with the other walls
04:27 <Flex> you're weird
04:28 <noob13> the cycle walls you mean?
04:28 <akira_arma> likely
04:28 <akira_arma> yes
04:28 <Flex> screenshot?
04:28 <akira_arma> ?
04:28 <akira_arma> your usual, custom cam settings
04:28 <noob13> i have that sensation sometimes, rarely...
04:28 <akira_arma> rise from 5 to 35
04:28 <noob13> you might get used to it?
04:28 <Flex> no i want to see what your settings are like, with a screenshot
04:28 <akira_arma> back from 5 to 35
04:28 <akira_arma> i tried alot
04:29 <Flex> it's the motion sickness you're getting
04:29 <akira_arma> yes but i cant cahnge that
04:29 <akira_arma> smartcam is bearable
04:29 <Flex> spoke to a doctor, it could be more serious than just something to do with the game..
04:29 <noob13> :P
04:29 <akira_arma> nah its nothing serious
04:29 <akira_arma> i am just sensible
04:30 <akira_arma> ;)
04:30 <Flex> simulation sickness..
04:30 <noob13> focus on the bike, akira_arma, and turn off all unnecessary fancyness
04:30 <akira_arma> anyways I am fine with samrtcam
04:30 <akira_arma> I just need to concentrate alot
04:30 <akira_arma> so i dont forget the other walls in my mind
04:30 <akira_arma> :)
04:30 <Flex> http://www.siggraph.org/education/materials/HyperVis/virtual.env/percept.iss/simulate.htm
04:31 <noob13> ha!
04:31 <Flex> that's it right?
04:31 <akira_arma> umm doesn'T matter
04:31 <akira_arma> something similar
04:32 <akira_arma> whatever
04:32 <Flex> 10 year old page, though
04:32 <akira_arma> basically the balance system gets fucked or sth.
04:32 <Flex> Studies have found that the following are more likely to cause sickness:
04:32 <Flex> bright images rather than dim (night time) ones,
04:32 <Flex> wide fields of view
04:32 <Flex> CRT systems rather than dome projection systems
04:32 <Flex> and in motion systems, motion at 0.2 hz is particularly nauscogenic.
04:32 <akira_arma> of course
04:33 <akira_arma> as i said
04:33 <akira_arma> the prob are the bright walls turning
04:33 <Flex> try some of the suggestions
04:33 <akira_arma> Umm I am fine :)
04:33 <noob13> interesting page.
04:33 <akira_arma> as logn as I play with samrtcam :)
04:33 <Flex> use custom cam!
04:33 <noob13> custom beats the hell out of smart, its true
04:34 <akira_arma> no shit
04:34 <akira_arma> but look how good I am with smart
04:34 <akira_arma> ;)
04:34 <Flex> not relevent! :p
04:34 <noob13> have you tried a movie pack? :p
04:34 <akira_arma> Angel amde an akira moviepack for me years ago
04:34 <Vanhayes> im partial to smart, always have used it, too late to change now
04:34 <Flex> Vanhayes, never too late
04:34 <akira_arma> I lost it though
04:34 <Flex> it's like a level increase, so to speak
04:35 <Flex> akira_arma, i speak to angel now and then, i can ask her
04:35 <noob13> actually being able to see whats going on..
04:35 <Flex> if it actually solved the issue
04:35 <akira_arma> no it didnt..
04:35 <akira_arma> I was just talking about a moviepack..
04:35 <Vanhayes> oh and the thing about a team using 5 or 6 vs 12 is that it doesnt help the team with 12 it helps the team with 6 so its noot good practice
04:36 <akira_arma> see noob13 thats the advantge of smartcam
04:36 <akira_arma> you have to keep the layout in mind
04:36 <Flex> Vanhayes, it depends on what you're trying to do
04:37 <akira_arma> ah wahtever I played 6 years with smartcam.. same as hayes
04:38 <akira_arma> did you try changing some smartcam settings hayes?
04:38 <noob13> if you're used to playing with it, guess it should be cool. custom does help with a certain sense for direction though.
04:38 <Vanhayes> well since 0.3 came out i usually hold down forward glance now, so it adds a little hight to the camera in smart
04:39 <Vanhayes> Flex, well in every game where it is 4 or more difference for one team the team with less player's almost always won
04:39 <akira_arma> because the big team has 4 more newbs?
04:39 <akira_arma> :)
04:40 <Vanhayes> just imagine a game of 12 on 12 you have played lots of tks and suicides at the start and horrible grinding for the ost part, then imagine a 6 on 6 game
04:40 <Vanhayes> not to mention that game had everyone shuffling up to pos 1-3
04:41 <Vanhayes> and then 3 different pos 1 decided to tk the team
04:41  * noob13 blames z-man-work
04:42 <akira_arma> hmm someone should disable multiple keybindings :)
04:43 <noob13> but rly, if there're notably more players on one team, they usually die of boredom before they even get an attempt at attack
04:43 <akira_arma> I can already hear the cry of rage
04:43 <noob13> i'd be screwed for the most part :P
04:43 <noob13> just for having become used to my multi-binds
04:44 <akira_arma> i play with only 1 hand actually
04:44 <akira_arma> left:4 right:6 brake:5
04:44 <akira_arma> on numpad
04:44 <luke-jr> akira_arma: uh, that's already done in 0.2.8
04:44 <akira_arma> and some glances on wasd
04:44 <luke-jr> akira_arma: servers just need to enable it
04:45 <akira_arma> ah
04:45 <akira_arma> !!
04:45 <akira_arma> enforce it :)
04:45 <noob13> plenty of empty servers after that
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04:52 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: why do you like a browser that fails miserably at the acid3 test?
04:54 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: it used to be in the lead
04:55 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: of course, only Safari actually passes
04:55 <Flex> which browser?
04:55 <luke-jr> Flex: Konqueror
04:57 <Vanhayes> what is the acid3 test?
04:58 <ct|kyle> firefox is beating it too luke-jr and chrome
04:58 <luke-jr> ...
04:58 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: nope
04:58 <Vanhayes> hmm firefox has a 93 it shows
04:58 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: Chrome gets 100/100, but still fails
04:59 <ct|kyle> I get 94 on latest firefox from trunk
04:59 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: that's not a pass either
04:59 <luke-jr> and trunk doesn't count
04:59 <ct|kyle> and it says 89 for konqueror
04:59 <Vanhayes> no t is a fail, looks like its only a pass/fail test
05:00 <luke-jr> yes, Konq 4.3.2 gets 89/100
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05:00 <ct|kyle> and current release of firefox is 93
05:00 <luke-jr> I said "used to"
05:01 <Vanhayes> either its what does ie get?
05:01 <Vanhayes> er
05:01 <luke-jr> ...
05:01 <luke-jr> 6?
05:01 <Vanhayes> i was typing another sentence and forgot to delete it there
05:01 <luke-jr> IE8 gets 20/100
05:02 <Vanhayes> wow ie fails hard
05:02 <luke-jr> note the "at time of ACID 3 release" results ;)
05:02 <Vanhayes> it looks nothing like it
05:02 <luke-jr> Firefox was 52/100
05:02 <Vanhayes> i just tried it
05:02 <luke-jr> Konqueror was 61/100
05:02 <Vanhayes> i think it shows a 12
05:02 <luke-jr> proof that Konqueror is more compliant when not tested/forced
05:03 <luke-jr> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid_3#Desktop_browsers_2
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05:05 <ct|kyle> heh ya it is 20 LMAO and it takes a while to render it
05:06 <ct|kyle> it hangs at 12 for a few seconds
05:11 <ct|kyle> wow windows 7 's enterface is really shitty, stuff jumping around not refreshing right
05:11 <luke-jr> http://images.pcworld.com/news/graphics/174176-win7_whopper_350.jpg
05:11 <ct|kyle> hell that looks better than windows 7
05:12 <akira_arma> umm am i wrong or is win7 the copy/paste f some linux functionality onto the win paltform?
05:13 <Flex> does linux have a recycle bin?
05:13 <ct|kyle> LOL, I opened then closed MS paint and it stayed painted to my desktop
05:13 <Flex> i thought not..
05:13 <akira_arma> you can configure one
05:13 <akira_arma> also
05:13 <ct|kyle> I have a trash can
05:13 <akira_arma> why the heck do you need one?
05:13 <luke-jr> Flex: Linux isn't an OS
05:13 <Flex> what is it
05:14 <luke-jr> a kernel
05:14 <luke-jr> a complete desktop OS needs a DE, both major ones support trash bins
05:14 <akira_arma> DE?
05:14 <Flex> ct|kyle, that never happens to me..
05:14 <luke-jr> Desktop Environment
05:14 <akira_arma> ok
05:15 <ct|kyle> probaboly because I had just searched for all 1177 .sys files
05:16 <Flex> so it's performance related
05:18 <ct|kyle> no, I think it's just windows 7 sucks
05:18 <ct|kyle> I'm using the same PC I tested windows vista on
05:19 <Flex> a properly set up windows xp can run on easly for 1 month.. i can prove it myself
05:19 <Flex> http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/8420/31days.jpg
05:20 <Flex> maybe i should of used the command prompt to get a better report, but still
05:21 <ct|kyle> windows xp != windows 7
05:23 <ct|kyle> you can stil loose windows on windows 7
05:23 <Flex> windows vista was windows millennium/me
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05:24 <ct|kyle> according to just about everything windows 7 should preferm better on winds vista hardware than vista did
05:26 <Flex> sounds right
05:26 <ct|kyle> well it is about even imo is not worse
05:27 <Flex> windows vista and 7 is best described like one of those bloated media players
05:28 <ct|kyle> lol this is fun loosing windows
05:32 <Flex> need to sleep for 4hours!
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05:32 <ct|kyle> heh no games show up on it LOL
05:39 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: that's because they finally started building with gcc
05:41 <ct|kyle> with a few words to describe it "it's an ugly mess"
05:41 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: are your spark plugs bad?
05:41 <Lucifer> no
05:42 <Lucifer> I was considering pulling the plug out of the #1 cylinder so I could stick a screwdriver in it to find TDC
05:42 <Lucifer> then I found that there was, indeed, a mark on the harmonic balancer for me to use instead
05:42 <ct|kyle> ah
05:49 <ct|kyle> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZOop-mnKEk&feature=player_embedded
05:52 <Vanhayes> #night
05:52 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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19:01 <akira_arma> .as
19:01 <tronner> akira_arma: This data is 112 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (13/14), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (11/12), The YELLOW Submarine (11/12), ID Clan -=}< OPEN SuMo (7/12), |FA| Black Tar! (6/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (6/10), ~Wild Night~Loose~ (5/8), WILDCAT (5/8), Wild West  =High Rubber= (3/16), ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Mega Fortress (3/32), -=Pls Res Us!=- -=Sumo=- (2/32), -  [ Nano's (1 more message)
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21:04 <Vanhayes> 1 space open in fortress onslaught if anyone wants it
21:27 <Vanhayes> MaZuffeR, did the server shut down for you?
21:27 <MaZuffeR> yes
21:27 <Vanhayes> ah ok, wasnt just me then
21:47 <ct|kyle> I like the new loading izone on firefox
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22:42 <madmax> #as
22:42 <armabot> madmax: This data is 30 seconds old; [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (12/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (12/14), -=Pls Res Us!=- -=Sumo=- (11/32), The YELLOW Submarine (11/12), Fortress Onslaught (11/12), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (8/10), ID Clan -=}< Capture the FLAG (7/10), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (6/10), Wild West  =High Rubber= (5/16), ~Wild Night~Loose~ (5/8), Swampland Mud (1 more message)
22:42 <madmax> #sd onsl
22:42 <armabot> madmax: Fortress Onslaught: Players (11/12): -»|FoFo, GoDZilla, Greta Garbo, HÂy-LÎn, Lizmatic, MaZuffeR, meatball, Monkey.D.Luffy, SpinAce, Tobe, |FW~Mac&Cheese
22:43 <madmax> #sd -v onsl
22:43 <armabot> madmax: Fortress Onslaught ( running 0.2.8-sty+ct_alpha20091009 unix dedicated, url: http://www.armagetronad.net, Description: “Teams take turns to defend or attack.Respawns are on, but you have just 3 lives each.Highest score after 6 rounds wins.“, Players (11/12): -»|FoFo, GoDZilla, Greta Garbo, HÂy-LÎn, Lizmatic, MaZuffeR, meatball, Monkey.D.Luffy, SpinAce, Tobe, (1 more message)
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