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Log from 2009-03-17:
--- Day changed Tue Mar 17 2009
00:00 <Vanhayes> #g 95000 rubles in CAD
00:00 <armabot> Vanhayes: 95 000 Russian rubles = 3 480.71931 Canadian dollars
00:00 <nsh22> lol
00:00 -!- zurd [i=629675b5@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-87523d227a437535] has joined #armagetron
00:00 <Pathetique> wb
00:01 <Pathetique> zurd, did you get my link?
00:01 <Vanhayes> #g 1 CAD in Peso
00:01 <armabot> Vanhayes: 1 Canadian dollar = 11.1679703 Mexican pesos
00:01 <Pathetique> #g 1 USD in Vietnam
00:01 <armabot> Pathetique: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
00:01 <Pathetique> rofl
00:02 <Vanhayes> http://www.educationalsimulations.com/ ever try this game out?
00:02 <Vanhayes> if you can call it a game i guess
00:02 <Vanhayes> more of a simulator
00:03 <Pathetique> looks rly dumb.
00:03 <Pathetique> LOL
00:03 <Vanhayes> its weird
00:03 <Pathetique> I much prefer http://www.towerdefence.net/games-29-Vector_TD.php
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00:14 <zurd> yeah, thanks path
00:15 <Pathetique> :D
00:15 <compguygene> hi path
00:15 <Pathetique> \o
00:16 <compguygene> how do you feel about messing with some .3 server action
00:16 <Pathetique> I <3 0.3.0
00:16 <compguygene> tonight i am gonna setup an account an binary for .3 servers
00:17 <compguygene> figured things look mature enough to start to play
00:18 <Pathetique> Indeed.
00:18 <BabyBug> What kind of server?
00:18 <compguygene> the first one that i would like to do is a simple map rotation server
00:18 <Pathetique> 0.3.0 has map rotation?
00:18 <Pathetique> wtf
00:19 <Pathetique> LOL
00:19 <compguygene> my understanding is that map and config rotation commands are now available..according to the wiki
00:19 <nsh22> i beleive that in 0.3 there is mamp_rotate or sumthin lik ethat :P
00:19 <dlh> #tea
00:20 <armabot> dlh: Fortress Café: Players (8/32): 1942, free kill (dlh@generalconsumption.org), myte, nara, Radian +, SolidifiedForce, Tybalt, viper
00:20 <Pathetique> :o
00:20 <compguygene> there's a page on the wiki about it
00:20 <nsh22> #aawiki map rotation
00:20 <armabot> nsh22: Search took 0.60 seconds: Map /Config Rotation - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Map/Config_Rotation>; Code hacks - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Code_hacks>; Old Servers - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Old_Servers>; Swamplords on Crack - Armagetron Advanced (1 more message)
00:21 <compguygene> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Map/Config_Rotation
00:22 <compguygene> also, luke-jr tells me that his testing of the zones v2 server he has running has shown good stability...so i think its time to play
00:23 <compguygene> at least with fortress game types
00:24 <Pathetique> Fortress isn't quite yet possible with v2, I thought.
00:24 <compguygene> go in the zones v2 server that luke jr has been running...it works
00:24 <compguygene> and it has been running crash free for several weeks now
00:25 <compguygene> that includes people playing with settings, etc.
00:25  * Pathetique could crash it if he tried
00:25  * compguygene has no doubts about that
00:25 <Pathetique> lolololol
00:26  * compguygene is hoping that together we could do some cool stuff...before others get the idea
00:26 <compguygene> besides...someone has to be first to find the bugs
00:26 <Pathetique> Well for one thing, there's no acceleration zones.
00:26 <Pathetique> :S
00:27 <compguygene> XD
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00:27 <compguygene> BTW...the sty branch almost has working flags
00:28 <compguygene> hi smoothice!
00:28 <nsh22> HAI!
00:28 <smoothice> hi
00:29 <Pathetique> HAI
00:29 <nsh22> gawddammit, evrytime you come on here smooth, my mom kicks me off
00:29 <Pathetique> LOL
00:29 <smoothice> ...
00:29 <smoothice> how about you say
00:29 <smoothice> god damnit
00:29 <smoothice> lol
00:29 <Pathetique> tell her
00:29 <Pathetique> "LOLWTFBBQ"
00:29 <nsh22> cuz, i got yelled at by luke wife one time... it wasnt good
00:30 <nsh22> at least i think it was her...
00:30 <smoothice> wtf?
00:30 <compguygene> hmm..ib the father of a 12yo girl and 14yo boy..nah..not a good idea
00:30 <nsh22> she was onhere for luke...
00:30 <compguygene> i can only imagine
00:30 <nsh22> at least i think it was his wife, couldve been him...
00:31 <compguygene> lol
00:31 -!- sinewav [n=sinewav@adsl-76-197-246-93.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #armagetron
00:31 <compguygene> hi sine..
00:32 <smoothice> sinewav
00:32 -!- smoothice is now known as sinewave
00:32 <sinewave> lol
00:32 <nsh22> smoothice: FAIL!
00:32 -!- sinewave is now known as tanwav
00:32 <compguygene> hey..did you guys see the new "saloon" servers from Wild West
00:32 <Pathetique> indeed'
00:32 <tanwav> compguygene: Yeah
00:32 <nsh22> yes
00:32 <nsh22> i loled a bit
00:33 <tanwav> where you can say goddammit all day long :P
00:33 <nsh22> i guess they got fed up with the complaints about theoir no cuss rukles
00:33 <compguygene> its their response to the communities desire for Ww servers with no censorship
00:33 <nsh22> lol
00:33 <compguygene> also..anyone banned from Ww servers...can go there...like 808 beaner..etc
00:34 <compguygene> let those guys know...so we all can have a little more peace
00:34 <nsh22> lol its a free for all
00:34 <Pathetique> indeed
00:34 <Pathetique> So that way noobsaibot won't be like "LOLFREEBEANER"
00:34 <nsh22> s there a warning saying: use at own risk
00:36 <nsh22> kk im out
00:36 <Pathetique> cu
00:36 -!- nsh22 [n=neal@unaffiliated/nsh22] has left #armagetron ["i win"]
00:38 -!- sinewave [n=sinewav@adsl-76-197-246-93.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #armagetron
00:38 <sinewave> hi
00:39 -!- tanwav is now known as smoothice
00:40 <Pathetique> smoothice: that lost its novelty BEFORE you even changed your name.
00:43 <smoothice> lol
00:43 -!- smoothice is now known as cosinewav
00:43 <cosinewav> hah
00:43 <cosinewav> clever :P
00:43 -!- cosinewav is now known as smoothice
00:43 <smoothice> w/e
00:43 -!- g4p [n=jp@p4FCE3AFA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
00:43 <compguygene> well i gtg
00:43 <smoothice> ok
00:43 <smoothice> bye compdude
00:43 <compguygene> but Tanwav is a pretty graph
00:44 <smoothice> lol
00:44 <smoothice> yep
00:44 <smoothice> ...
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00:44 <sinewave> you know, my name is actually more of a musical reference than a math one...
00:45 <BabyBug> Why the e on the end now?
00:46 <sinewave> that's my alt nick. my client keeps bouncing me.
00:46 <guru3> is your third choice sin.wave?
00:46 <BabyBug> lurker
00:46 <sinewave> mmm, no third choice. but that's a good one
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00:48 -!- Pathetique [n=chatzill@adsl-99-153-140-239.dsl.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.7/2009021906]"]
00:49 <guru3> or sinwav
00:49 <sinewave> yeah, that's good too.
00:50 <guru3> with sin/sine/wav/wave you get 4 combinations really
00:50 <guru3> all the the same meaning
00:50 <smoothice> 8
00:50 <smoothice> w/tan
00:50 <guru3> then you can start adding ./_/- inbetween
00:50 <guru3> ie sin_wav
00:50 <guru3> 12 combinations right there
00:50 -!- sinewav [n=sinewav@adsl-76-197-246-93.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
00:50 <sinewave> finally
00:50 -!- sinewave is now known as sinewav
00:50 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50870DA6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)]
00:50 <sinewav> ...
00:50 <guru3> or you could express it as tan(wav)cos(wav)
00:51 <BabyBug> lol sinewav why don't you register it?
00:51 <guru3> since cos would cancel and you'd be left wth sin
00:51 <sinewav> guru3: : this is true...
00:51 <sinewav> BabyBug: : uh, that would takes brains and motivation
00:51 <BabyBug> ...
00:51 <sinewav> things I have little of
00:52 <BabyBug> i highly doubt you have less than me, and i could do it :)
00:59 <armabot> armagetronad: guru3 * r9165 /www/mainsite/links.php: new clan site
00:59 <BabyBug> yet another clan site, oh joys
01:00  * sinewav registerd. thanks.
01:01 <BabyBug> and now you won't have to wait
01:01 <guru3> except you'll still have to kill the other client manually
01:01 <sinewav> \o/
01:01 <BabyBug> and if you're really feeling motivated, you could make it automatically ghost you
01:01 <guru3> so really you just gave yourself more work
01:02 <sinewav> ...
01:02  * sinewav trows a knife at bug
01:02 <BabyBug> guru3, that depends on your interpretation as work. I consider waiting as work. So i give him less work. :)
01:02 <BabyBug> s/as/of/
01:05 <guru3> satelites are the mosquitoes of space
01:06 <guru3> 100 years from now, your spaceshpi will need giant windscreen wipers to wipe the damn things off
01:06 <guru3> *spaceship
01:07 <BabyBug> 100 years from now i won't have a spaceship :)
01:07 <guru3> too old that even medical science won't keep you alive that long?
01:07 <BabyBug> I can't see me living to 118
01:07 <guru3> assuming i'm a) not hit by pulic transport and b) not electrocuted i've got an OK shot
01:08 <BabyBug> even if i did live to 118, i still can't see my owning a spaceship at that age
01:09 <guru3> no dream?
01:10 <BabyBug> No dream at all
01:10 <guru3> you'll at least see 2100 right?
01:11 <BabyBug> No
01:11 <guru3> planning on dieing young then?
01:12 <guru3> shame :/
01:12 <BabyBug> I don't mind dieing young as long as i die happy
01:12 <smoothice> DYING!
01:12 <BabyBug> So dieing now would suit me just fine :)
01:12 <smoothice> not dieing!
01:13 <guru3> oops
01:13 <smoothice> ...
01:13 <guru3> i'm probably going to become old and bitter
01:14 <BabyBug> I'll make sure i'm dead before i become old and bitter
01:14 <smoothice> for a baby, you're pretty pessimistic
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01:15 <BabyBug> I'm actually an optimist =)
01:15 <guru3> *sigh*
01:15 <BabyBug> I'm saying i'll die happy. What's not optimistic about that?
01:15 <smoothice> uh
01:15 <smoothice> dying is pessimistic altogether?
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01:15 <BabyBug> Uhh, no...
01:15 <Vanhayes> dying is a part of life
01:16 <Vanhayes> its the period of life's sentence
01:16 <Vanhayes> .
01:16 <BabyBug> At the very most you could say i'm being morbid. But that's borderline
01:16 <BabyBug> I'm not being pessimistic
01:17 <guru3> what you've said could be interperated as "i'll die young, but gosh-darn-it all, i'm going to bloody well die happy"
01:17 <BabyBug> No. Because i said old AND bitter. Not old OR bitter :)
01:18 <Lucifer> YES!
01:18 <Lucifer> I passed part 1 of the exam!  :)
01:18 <Lucifer> if I pass part 2, I have a job!
01:18 <BabyBug> Congratulations!
01:18 <BabyBug> :o
01:18 <guru3> Lucifer: banzai!
01:18 <Vanhayes> i say if someone makes it to 65 they should feel happy and fulfilled
01:18 <smoothice> What job Lucifer?
01:18 <guru3> wish i had a job lined up for this summer :(
01:18 <Lucifer> search engine evaluation
01:18 <smoothice> oooh
01:18 <Vanhayes> congrats
01:18 <smoothice> sweet
01:19 <Lucifer> it's only $13.50, but it's work at home, whatever hours I want
01:19 <Lucifer> so I can throttle my hours during breaks in my work at the school :)
01:19 <Lucifer> also, I can probably take all of July off at the school, because I'll have my kids, and I won't need a babysitter
01:19  * Lucifer really wants this job
01:19 <BabyBug> and more time for arma!
01:19 <BabyBug> :)
01:19 <Lucifer> YES
01:19 <Lucifer> more time for arma!  ;)
01:20 <Lucifer> Vanhayes: I think aiming for 65 is a little low
01:20 <Lucifer> I'm aiming for 90, myself
01:20 <Lucifer> not *just* 90, mind you, but being physically capable of most things and be in my 80s
01:20 <BabyBug> I don't see the pointing in aiming for an age. Because then if you don't get to that age you'll be sad.
01:20 <Lucifer> i.e. I don't want old age to disable me until my 90s
01:20 <Lucifer> BabyBug: no, you won't be sad, you'll be dead
01:21 <Lucifer> so you won't even know you failed
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01:21 <Lucifer> best kind of goal you can set, one where you can't know if you fail, but you can know if you succeed
01:21 <BabyBug> Lucifer, If i'm lying in hospital knowing i'm going to die. I'll be sad if i had a target age and hadn't reached it.
01:21 <guru3> i'd be sad anyway
01:21 -!- g4p [n=jp@p4FCE3AFA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Ex-Chat"]
01:21 <Vanhayes> 65 is good, should have a family, them moved out retired or semi retired
01:21 <guru3> becuase, like, i'm about to die
01:21 <guru3> that's pretty sad
01:21 <Lucifer> ah, well, that might make it a bit saddening
01:21 <Vanhayes> and if you set your goal as 65 every year after that is an accoplishment
01:22 <BabyBug> guru3, that'd just mean you haven't lived life to it's fullest
01:22 <Lucifer> true, but if you set your goal as, say, 80, you'd tend to take better care of yourself when you're younger
01:22 <guru3> yeah, not likely for me
01:22 <Lucifer> heh
01:22 <Lucifer> "You have been judged as having had a worthless existence"
01:22 <Lucifer> "Is that you, mom?"
01:23 <Vanhayes> i take pretty good care of myself
01:23  * Lucifer loves Red Dwarf
01:23 <guru3> does anyone still use alta-vista?
01:23 <Lucifer> not me
01:23 <Lucifer> never did, in fact
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01:23 <BabyBug> I don't really care when i die. I'm happy i've done everything i want so far!
01:23 <BabyBug> alta-vista is?
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01:23 <Lucifer> old skool search engine
01:23 <Lucifer> smoothice is just a class, poor guy
01:23  * Lucifer is a namespace
01:24 <guru3> altavista uses yahoo search
01:24 <guru3> bah
01:24 <Lucifer> no wait
01:24  * Lucifer is a global variable, because global variables are EVIL!
01:24 <guru3> what other search engines are there?
01:24 <Lucifer> msn
01:24 <BabyBug> google
01:24 <guru3> besides the big 3
01:24 <Lucifer> lots of specialty search engines
01:24 <BabyBug> alltheweb
01:24 <Lucifer> mediawiki has a search engine in it :)
01:24 <BabyBug> lycos
01:24  * Vanhayes just died of malenoma at age 80 as a russian 
01:25 <Lucifer> northern lights still running?
01:25 <BabyBug> as in a movie? or the things in the sky?
01:25 <BabyBug> They're beautiful!!
01:25 <Lucifer> search engine named after the "things in the sky" phenomenon
01:25 <Lucifer> you can see them from wales?
01:25 <Lucifer> heh, quote from Red Dwarf:
01:25 <BabyBug> No. But you can from Finland.
01:26 <Lucifer> "Transmit in all known languages, including Welsh:  We surrender!"
01:26 <Vanhayes> is welsh really a language?
01:26 <guru3> yes
01:26 <BabyBug> Yes it's really a bloody language!
01:26 <Lucifer> no, it's more like a noise
01:26 <guru3> and i can't think of any other search engines to submit to
01:26 <Lucifer> it's the language all the adults in the charlie brown cartoons speak
01:26 <Vanhayes> won won won won
01:26 <BabyBug> Vanhayes, http://cy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hafan
01:27 <BabyBug> Some example welsh text for ya :P
01:27  * Lucifer is still sore in weird places
01:27 <BabyBug> rough one nighters?
01:27 <Lucifer> heh, yeah
01:27 <Lucifer> #luke-jrisanasshat
01:28 <guru3> think i'm out of stuff to do today
01:28 <guru3> good night
01:28 <BabyBug> night
01:43 <BabyBug> Lucifer, armabot needs ops *dusts off her halo*
01:43 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o armabot] by ChanServ
01:43 <BabyBug> :)
01:43 <Lucifer> armabuilder: status
01:43 <armabuilder> linux-client: idle, last build 69335 secs ago: failed Distcheck Installcheck
01:43 <armabuilder> linux-server: idle, last build 53983 secs ago: build successful
01:44 <BabyBug> I really don't get how a build bot is actually going to help in anyway whatso ever
01:58 <luke-jr> eh
01:58 <luke-jr> ]later tell compguygene hey, I never said ANYTHING about stability with my zones v2 testing..
01:58 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
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02:02 <smoothice> #seen sobeoit
02:02 <smoothice> #seen sobeit
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02:25 <jaded6> is it actually utterly empty here or am i lagging?
02:25 <BabyBug> There's just no one talking
02:25 <jaded6> whoaa
02:25 <jaded6> hey there bug ;)
02:26 <BabyBug> Unfortunately i'm the only nice person in here 8-)
02:26 <jaded6> lol
02:27 <jaded6> the definition of nice has to be revised then
02:27 <Vanhayes> i thought you didnt like anyone
02:27 <jaded6> i see how it is now
02:27 <BabyBug> Vanhayes, That's because they're not nice
02:27 <jaded6> so no one wanted to start a convo :/
02:27 <BabyBug> except zman, i like him. But he's not here
02:28 <BabyBug> and Lucifer, i like him. But he's not nice either.
02:28 <Vanhayes> ya but thats his charm
02:28 <jaded6> no one else but z and lucifer?
02:28 <jaded6> im heartbroken bug
02:28 <BabyBug> no one else
02:28 <BabyBug> So who are yooh?
02:29 <jaded6> telling you my name on tron would defeat the purpose of me using an alias
02:29 <jaded6> wouldn't it lol
02:29 <BabyBug> Yes it would. So how about you just stop using an alias?
02:29 <Lucifer> using an alias would defeat the purpose of joining #armagetron to talk about the game, wouldn't it?
02:29 <jaded6> but im not here to talk about the game, lucifer :)
02:29  * Lucifer was told this weekend that he's very nice
02:29 <zurd> lmao @ lucifer
02:29  * Lucifer sticks his tongue out at BabyBug
02:30 <jaded6> lol depends on who told you that
02:30  * Lucifer pulls his tongue back before she can grab it
02:30 <BabyBug> Lucifer, i see you're still yet to understand a womans logic
02:30 <Lucifer> heh, girl we were talking about earlier
02:30 <Lucifer> in a different channel
02:30 <BabyBug> So jaded6, who are you?
02:31 <jaded6> there are more interesting topics than my name, bug
02:31 <Vanhayes> not really, pretty quiet in here
02:31 <BabyBug> not many people call me bug
02:31 <BabyBug> *thinks*
02:31 <jaded6> then contribute van >:(
02:31 <Vanhayes> how many people call you baby?
02:31 <jaded6> shit
02:31 <BabyBug> i could just kick you though. That'd be much for fun than thinking!
02:31 <jaded6> so they call you baby?
02:31 <BabyBug> s/for/more/
02:31 <jaded6> lol you could, but whats the point in that?
02:32 <BabyBug> It'd remove the thing annoying me
02:32 <Vanhayes> #roulette
02:32 <jaded6> and the thing that bothered starting a convo here
02:32 <@armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
02:33 <BabyBug> And then became a complete and utter attention seeker by revealing you know me, yet refuse to say who you are
02:33 <jaded6> i never said i know you, bug
02:33 <jaded6> scroll up lol
02:33 <jaded6> for all you know i may not even know what tron is :/
02:33 <jaded6> what is tron, btw?
02:33 <zurd> #roulette
02:33 <@armabot> zurd: *click*
02:33 <Vanhayes> <jaded6> telling you my name on tron would defeat the purpose of me using an alias
02:34 <Vanhayes> that implies you know about it
02:34 <jaded6> i may just uhhh
02:34 <zurd> hehe
02:34 <jaded6> k i'll eat my words lol ;(
02:36 <BabyBug> So your tron name is?
02:37 <smoothice> dlh: I just recorded some bugs on a server and I want to fast forward to the very end of the recording because that's when the bug was. However, I don't know what the time was at that point. Is there a way to check the tottal time?
02:37 <jaded6> watch the entire thing and time it :o
02:38 <smoothice> there must be an easier way?
02:38 <smoothice> wrtlprnft: any ideas? ^
02:38 <jaded6> well the way i see it, you're probably spending the same amount of time if not more by looking for alternative ways than if you just watch it
02:38 <smoothice> but it's got to be approximately 30 minutes worth
02:38 <smoothice> I cannot watch that through
02:39 <jaded6> sucks :/
02:39 <jaded6> noob here, can't answer ya
02:40 <dlh> smoothice there is a way
02:40 <smoothice> :D
02:40 <BabyBug> #n9
02:40 <@armabot> BabyBug: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (0/16):
02:40 <BabyBug> :@
02:40 <smoothice> whoa
02:40 <smoothice> you made those servers?
02:41 <smoothice> nexus9?
02:41 <jaded6> lol
02:41 <smoothice> those are yours?
02:41 <BabyBug> No i never made those servers
02:41 <smoothice> lol k
02:41 <dlh> smoothice: tail <recording.aarec>
02:41 <jaded6> the admins there are wiped off the face of hte earth
02:41 <dlh> Look for something like “T 899 ...”
02:41 <dlh> 899 is the time
02:41 <BabyBug> no they're no jaded6...Now who the fuck are you....
02:41 <smoothice> T 1536
02:41 <smoothice> :D
02:41 <smoothice> thanks dlh
02:41 <BabyBug> not*
02:42 <jaded6> they're not? how many n9's do you see hanging around nowadays
02:42 <BabyBug> Quite alot on KDX
02:42 <jaded6> lol i meant on tron?
02:42  * jaded6 doesn't know what KDX is :/
02:42 <BabyBug> You said off the face of the earth
02:42 <jaded6> lol
02:42 <jaded6> alright we're being technical now? ;(
02:43 <BabyBug> If repeating what you said is complicated enough to fall under "technical" for you then i guess we are
02:43 <Lucifer> smoothice: you can fast forward through it, I forget the keys for that, but you can
02:43 <Lucifer> HOWEVER
02:43 <jaded6> oh here comes hte however
02:43 <Lucifer> the game has to run every simulation step, so you can only go as fast as the game can do that
02:43 <BabyBug> Lucifer, he knows he can fast forwarded. He needed to know what time to fast forward too.
02:43 <Lucifer> on some computers, fast forward is actually only as fast as regular playback :)
02:44 <Lucifer> well, he should have watched when the bug showed itself, because there should have been a time on his cockpit
02:44 <Lucifer> if he knows an approximate time, he can fast forward to that and see if that's it
02:44 <jaded6> you knew what i meant bug :)
02:44 <Lucifer> use your memory, it's just like going through a movie
02:45 <BabyBug> Well he knew it was at the end of the recording. So he needed to know the total time, so he could fast forward just before the end
02:45 <BabyBug> Silly!!
02:45 <BabyBug> and then he can see the bug
02:45 <jaded6> putty
02:45 <Lucifer> he also knew it was approximately 30 minutes long, so he can fast forward to 29 minutes, silly
02:45 <Lucifer> I'm not in the habit of saying things that are *that* obvious
02:45 <BabyBug> yes you are :P
02:45 <Lucifer> am not
02:45 <BabyBug> am too
02:46 <Lucifer> it's possible that as son as he starts the recording, he'll get a display showing him the total time, but I don't remember
02:46 <dlh> He now knows it is 1536 seconds long...
02:46 <Lucifer> how does he know that?
02:46 <BabyBug> *face palms*
02:46 <dlh> tail <recording.aarec>
02:46 <Vanhayes> #g 1536 seconds in minutes
02:46 <dlh> Look at the last time
02:46 <@armabot> Vanhayes: 1536 seconds = 25.6 minutes
02:46 <Lucifer> [20:40] <dlh> smoothice: tail <recording.aarec>  <--- ahhhh, he did that
02:47  * Lucifer was only scanning the channel, not reading individual comments
02:47 <BabyBug> So now it sinks in that everything you said was pointless? xD
02:47 <Lucifer> #kick BabyBug yeah
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02:47  * Lucifer has to keep his "not nice" reputation
02:47 <BabyBug> lol
02:48 <luke-jr> BabyBug: kick him back!
02:48 <luke-jr> <><
02:48 <BabyBug> #kick luke-jr but i don't like being predictable
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02:49  * BabyBug hugs Lucifer 
02:49 <zurd> luke-jr ping
02:49  * Lucifer hugs BabyBug back (you really are 18 or older, right?)
02:49 <BabyBug> Yes i'm really really 18
02:49 <Vanhayes> creepy
02:49 <Lucifer> (oh yeah, she's a fat old hairy man pretending to be an internet lesbian)
02:50 <BabyBug> ask Lizmatic... she knows i look "old" (her words not mine" >.<
02:50 <Lucifer> yeah, but she's young too, so what does she know?
02:50 <Lucifer> er, that didn't come out quite right
02:50 <BabyBug> she's older than me!!
02:51 <Vanhayes> better to look older youger so you can level off later on
02:51 <Lucifer> long as you don't get a wildly over-inflated ego about it
02:51  * Vanhayes looks 5 years older than he is for about 10 years now
02:51  * Lucifer has been told he looks younger than his 34 years
02:51 <BabyBug> I'd say you look good for your age. But no younger
02:52 <Vanhayes> used to be nice looking 20 at 15 but now i get 25-26ish
02:52 <BabyBug> not*
02:52  * zurd is 16 O.o
02:52 <Lucifer> I'm different in person, pictures only get part of the story
02:52 <Vanhayes> once got a girl who said i looked 32
02:52 <Lucifer> I also tend to wear bandanas and stuff, clothes that people my age don't generally wear
02:52 <BabyBug> Vanhayes, pic? :D
02:53 <Vanhayes> i think she just wanted me to be older than her though, she was 31
02:53 <Lucifer> Vanhayes: you're somewheres around 18 now, right?
02:53 <Vanhayes> not on this computer
02:53 <BabyBug> hrmph
02:53 <Vanhayes> im 20 now
02:53 <Vanhayes> 18 when i left for out west
02:53 <Lucifer> really?  I thought you were 15 when I met you, and I haven't known you for 5 years, I don't think....
02:53 <Vanhayes> ya you have
02:53 <Lucifer> ok, I guess I have, haha
02:54 <Vanhayes> hmm, no i was 16 i think
02:54 <Vanhayes> 4 years anyway
02:54 <Vanhayes> oh how the time flys
02:54 <Lucifer> no shit, man
02:54  * Lucifer was a kid back then too, still thought his wife was cool
02:54 <BabyBug> lol
02:55 <BabyBug> Being a kid was cool
02:56 <Vanhayes> 18 is still a kid
02:56 <BabyBug> It really doesn't feel like it
02:56 <BabyBug> :P
02:57 <Vanhayes> well not a kid, but i learned alot more in 2 years away alone than i did most of the time i was at home
02:57 <BabyBug> I moved out of home 2 years ago already :P
02:58 <BabyBug> my kids days are done :P
02:58 <BabyBug> kid*
03:00 <luke-jr> #quote add "<Lucifer> Vanhayes: you're somewheres around 18 now, right? <Vanhayes> not on this computer"
03:00 <@armabot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.  Quote #92 added.
03:00 <Vanhayes> boo
03:00 <Vanhayes> out of context
03:00 <luke-jr> :D
03:01 <BabyBug> ewwwww
03:01 <BabyBug> that's just wrong
03:03 <Vanhayes> #quote search pedo
03:03 <@armabot> Vanhayes: 1 found: #21: "<Luke-Jr_work__> btw, pedophile is good"
03:03 <luke-jr> wd, you found one of the out-of-context Luke quotes
03:03 <Vanhayes> one of so very many
03:03 <Vanhayes> #quote search turkey
03:04 <BabyBug> i struggle to see how that could be used in context
03:04 <@armabot> Vanhayes: 1 found: #38: "<GodTodd> hayes jerks off turkeys?"
03:04 <luke-jr> BabyBug: we were discussing the literal meanings of words
03:04 <Vanhayes> #dict pedophile
03:04 <@armabot> Vanhayes: wn and gcide responded: wn: pedophile n : an adult who is sexually attracted to children [syn: {paedophile}]; gcide: pedophile \pe"do*phile`\ (P[=e]"d[-o]*f[imac]l) n. A person who has pedophilia. Syn: pedophiliac. [PJC]
03:04 <luke-jr> "pedophile" literally means a person who loves children
03:05 <Vanhayes> used to mean that, now it means something else
03:05 <BabyBug> luke-jr, is that just what your daddy told you? xD
03:05 <luke-jr> literal
03:05 <luke-jr> "pedo" = child
03:05 <luke-jr> "-phile" = one who loves (prefix)
03:06 <Vanhayes> wait are you in welsh land right now BabyBug ?
03:06 <BabyBug> Of course
03:07 <Vanhayes> isnt it like 4 in the morning there?
03:07 <BabyBug> 2am
03:07 <BabyBug> elen's being a bitch, otherwise i'd be snuggled up in bed :)
03:08 <Vanhayes> ah ok 2 am isnt that bad then, was going to kick you if it was 4
03:08 <luke-jr> civ?
03:08 <BabyBug> heh, i used to have a terrible sleep pattern. Up till 7am, sleep 2 hours :P
03:09 <luke-jr> BabyBug: sound like BP!
03:09 <Vanhayes> ya, i was just up for about 40 hours untill i crashed for 15 yesterday
03:09 <Vanhayes> no real reason why either, just couldnt sleep
03:09 <BabyBug> BP?
03:11 <Vanhayes> no idea
03:11 <luke-jr> bipolar disorder
03:12 <luke-jr> aka manic depression
03:12 <BabyBug> :|
03:12 <Vanhayes> good song
03:12 <luke-jr> …
03:12 <BabyBug> How does that sound like manic depression? lol
03:12 <luke-jr> no sleep
03:12 <Vanhayes> insomneia?
03:12 <luke-jr> oft associated w/ mania
03:12 <BabyBug> it's called a baby, not freaking manic depression :P
03:12 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: no, that's different
03:13 <luke-jr> BabyBug: oh, that
03:13 <luke-jr> that's different too
03:13 <luke-jr> mania would be if you don't *need* the sleep :p
03:13 <Vanhayes> how is staying up and not sleeping different than insomnia?
03:13 <Vanhayes> sounds like the definition of it
03:13 <sinewav> manic episode
03:13 <sinewav> that's the diff
03:13 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: insomnia is INABILITY to sleep, despite a need for it
03:14 <sinewav> insomnicas are not manic
03:14 <luke-jr> and absense of need for sleep is only one symptom of mania
03:15  * sinewav unfortunately knows about mania.
03:15 <Vanhayes> well i was tired just didnt want to sleep untill i knew i wouldnt wake up till a reasonably hour
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03:19 <luke-jr> wtf was that]
03:21 <sinewav> troll?
03:21 <luke-jr> …?
03:21 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: civ⁇
03:21 <sinewav> what was wtf?
03:21 <luke-jr> Lucifer: civ?>?
03:21 <luke-jr> sinewav: [21:18:41] <-- jaded6 has left this server ("Java user signed off").
03:21 <luke-jr> sinewav: that guy
03:22 <Vanhayes> nah, im about to head to bed here soon
03:22 <sinewav> wnyone know who it was? or some random dude?
03:22 <Vanhayes> i think he plays arma, and i think he thought we would know who he was so he used an alias
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03:28 <Vanhayes> #night
03:28 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
03:29 <smoothice> bye Vanhayes
03:32 <Lucifer> luke-jr: no civ tonight, sorry
03:32 <Lucifer> my energy and attention is focused on this test which, if I pass, means I have a job :)
03:35 <Lucifer> insomnia is a symptom in several of those "disorders", including depression and ADD/ADHD
03:35 <Lucifer> but it is also a disorder on its own, the only problem is that it's most commonly associated with depression, since depression is the most common disorder
03:35 <sinewav> disorder? it's a way of life!
03:35 <Lucifer> occasional bouts with insomnia aren't unhealthy, though, because it can be caused by environmental factors (caffeine being a common one)
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03:36 <sinewav> But don't insomnicas feel tired?
03:36 <Lucifer> also, to be considered insomnia, it only has to be "can't fall asleep within 15 minutes of laying down after a regular day"
03:36 <Lucifer> no, to be insomnia, you don't have to feel tired
03:36 <sinewav> that's a pretty narrow margin
03:36 <Lucifer> "normal" behavior is that after a 15-18 hour day, when you lay down, you should fall asleep within about 15 minutes
03:37 <Lucifer> anything longer than that is insomnia
03:37 <Lucifer> obviously it is characterized by degrees, because if you're up for 2 extra hours (like I am, most of the time), that's worse than taking 30 minutes to fall asleep
03:37 <Lucifer> waking up patterns are part of it too, iirc.  An insomniac generally wakes up at regular times as well
03:38 <Lucifer> that's one of the things that makes it so bad, because there's a low-lying sleep deprivation that's constant
03:38 <sinewav> You're describing my life.
03:38 <Lucifer> but you can still be an insomniac who drifts, which is what I do
03:38 <Lucifer> I think, however, that some people just don't fit in the 24-hour day that we have
03:38 <Lucifer> I think I fit a 30 hour day much better, and comfortably
03:39 <sinewav> that's probaby me.
03:39 <Lucifer> that's one of the reasons I prefer working from home on my own schedule :)
03:39 <Lucifer> I fall into a 30 hour day then, and have no problems with it
03:39 <sinewav> I could probably live comfortably with the mars rver team.
03:39 <sinewav> rover*
03:40 <Lucifer> yeah, me too ;)
03:40 <sinewav> they have to be on mars time
03:40 <Lucifer> although I hear they have lots of problems with it
03:40 <Lucifer> it drove my ex crazy that I preferred a 30 hour day
03:40 <Lucifer> of course, she was already crazy, but that's beside the point
03:40 <sinewav> I was about to say...
03:40 <sinewav> `;)
03:40 <sinewav> Lucifer: don't mean to bother you while studying but...
03:41 <Lucifer> not studying, relaxing a bit before I start tackling the second part of the test
03:41 <sinewav> did you ever get a chance to check out any of those sound files I made a while back?
03:41 <Lucifer> I haven't yet, I've been really busy trying to get a job
03:41 <Lucifer> once my personal situation achieves some sort of stable equilibrium, I'll be able to put more time into arma
03:41 <sinewav> ok, just checking. I think madmax tried to put them somewhere in bzzr
03:42 <sinewav> yes of course
03:42 <luke-jr> Lucifer: would you be opposed to letting someone else finish up 0.3.1 if you don't have time now?
03:42 <Lucifer> luke-jr: not at all opposed, in fact, I'd love to see it happen
03:42 <luke-jr> i c
03:42 <luke-jr> what needs to be done? :o
03:43 <luke-jr> honestly, to the best of my knowledge, 0.3.1 should simply be branch, make it build, release XD
03:43 <Lucifer> pretty much, yeah
03:44 <luke-jr> hm
03:44 <Lucifer> you can, if you wish, merge from the trunk anything before the protobuf merge, which includes utf8
03:44 <luke-jr> 0.3.1 is pre-protobuf? :o
03:44 <Lucifer> I was working on converting all the windows .bat files to python scripts
03:44 <Lucifer> yes, 0.3.1 is pre-protobuf
03:44 <luke-jr> hum
03:44 <Lucifer> it needs to be released that way, too
03:44 <luke-jr> can I just build a few binaries and call it done, then start on 0.3.2? :p
03:44 <Lucifer> so, in my perfect world, the work I was doing would be finished
03:45 <Lucifer> well yeah, that's the basic idea, the problem I had was in building windows binaries
03:45 <luke-jr> ah
03:45 <Lucifer> it's possible that has been fixed and can be released now, if you have someone to do the build
03:45 <luke-jr> buildbot would make 0.3 releases simple to push then?
03:45 <luke-jr> once we have a Windows slaver
03:45 <Lucifer> the procedure you should follow is "Build an autopackage, get people to sanity check it.  Get a windows build sanity checked, and a mac os x build"
03:46 <luke-jr> so we don't sanity check OS X builds? ;)
03:46 <Lucifer> Then, if everything passes the sanity check (no more than a few days to a week total), post a tarball *from that revision*, tag the revision of course, and release
03:46 <Lucifer> heh, of course sanity check the mac os x builds, but if you don't have what you feel is sufficient sanity check for that particular build, release anyway
03:47 <Lucifer> we only get as much sanity checking as people are willing to put in, so if people complain, you can always say "Where were you when I asked for sanity checking?  You'[ll just have to wait until 0.3.2"
03:47 <Lucifer> any changes you make in the branch should be merged back to the trunk, if still relevant (they may not be, the trunk has moved quite a bit since I branched 0.3.1)
03:48 <Lucifer> but if you convert all windows .bat files to python scripts, you can build a windows release with wine
03:48 <dlh> changes were merged back in a few times, there might have been some more added
03:48 <luke-jr> Lucifer: wine? :x
03:48 <Lucifer> wine, yes
03:48 <sinewav> :o
03:48 <luke-jr> I wish mingw didn't give me a ton of cryptic errors
03:48 <Lucifer> preferred over cross-compiling because it builds identically to building in windows
03:49 <luke-jr> cross-compiling doesn't?
03:49 <Lucifer> not guaranteed, but it's theoretically possible
03:49 <Lucifer> wine is guaranteed because it uses the same binaries for the build system that are used in windows
03:50 <Lucifer> we need more testing of cross-compiling before we can release that way, but I would love to get to a point where that's how we release
03:50 <Lucifer> if only because it means we can automate about 90% of the release building on one machine
03:50 <luke-jr> only 90%? O.o
03:51 <Lucifer> a basic release for any 0.3.x release, imo, requires at least an autopackage for linux, a windows installer, and a .dmg for mac os x, and a source tarball
03:51 <Lucifer> well, the other 10% is the mac os x build
03:51 <luke-jr> oh right
03:51 <luke-jr> OS X
03:51 <Lucifer> if the *point* of a 0.3.x release is to test linux distribution packages, then obviously *for that release*, we'd need an additional package that's to be tested ;)
03:52 <Lucifer> and we need releases like that so that when we reach the next stable version, we'll have whatever package support we need already tested and in place in our automation scripts
03:52 <Lucifer> but 0.3.1 isn't such a release
03:53 <luke-jr> would be nice to just branch, change the version, and tell buildbot to make everything XD
03:53 <Lucifer> it would be, but it'll take awhile before we have that infrastructure in place
03:54 <Lucifer> also, in order to build a release with buildbot, I'd prefer to be able to give buildbot a tarball that should be used by all builders rather than having it do a scm retrieval
03:54 <Lucifer> but snapshot sanity checking builds are certainly within the realm of what we can expect from the buildbot
03:54 <luke-jr> it could probably make the tarball, then use it for the rest/
03:54 <luke-jr> ?
03:54 <Lucifer> don't know
03:55 <Lucifer> we can write plugins for it, however
03:55 <Lucifer> so we can get there, with enough work in the system
03:55 <Lucifer> I'd rather focus on making the buildbot a build testing platform for now, then move on to having it generate nightly builds
03:55 <Lucifer> then move on to having it generate packages for many systems, also as nightly builds
03:55 <Lucifer> when we have all that in place, we can worry about having it build releases :)
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04:40 <Lucifer> quit what?
04:40 <luke-jr> reconnecting ;)
04:44 <zurd> bye bye nubs
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04:47 <Pathetique> ct|kyle: why does armahacktron have to be so tricky when trying to do scripted stuff?
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04:55 <Lucifer> well, this is easy work
04:55  * Lucifer likes it
04:55 <luke-jr> ?
04:55 <Lucifer> this search engine evaluation stuff
04:55 <Lucifer> given a query and a page, rate the relevance of the page to the query
04:56 <Lucifer> these ratings are used as an input to the search algorithm
04:56 <luke-jr> o
04:56 <Lucifer> hey, if you're looking for work, maybe I can link you to these guys
04:56 <Lucifer> didn't you say you were looking for work?
04:56 <luke-jr> pay decent?
04:56 <luke-jr> not actively, no
04:56 <Lucifer> $13.50/hour
04:56 <luke-jr> i c
04:56 <Lucifer> so I guess decent is relative here
04:57 <luke-jr> plenty of $25+/hr work I can do when I get time :p
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08:18 <Lucifer> #math calc 134250969-134250735
08:18 <armabot> Lucifer: 234
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09:25 <Lucifer> #math calc 134250969-134250777
09:25 <armabot> Lucifer: 192
09:26 <Lucifer> hey, not bad, I started with 270
10:23 <Lucifer> #math calc 134250969-134250806
10:23 <armabot> Lucifer: 163
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14:56 <nsh22> heyheyhey
15:00 <Concord> guru3, if you've got the time could Concord@sitethemelaunchpad be approved?
15:01 <guru3> approved
15:02 <joda_bot> guru3: ?!!?
15:03 <joda_bot> Concord: what is that pseudo email address thing ?
15:03 <Concord> thanks
15:03 <nsh22> for athentication maybeh?
15:03 <Concord> joda, he got the idea, didn't he?
15:04 <nsh22> so guru3 needs to approve any new authentication requests?
15:04 <guru3> https://launchpad.net/~armagetronad-web/
15:04 <dlh>  /team Negative
15:04 <guru3> any project admin can
15:05 <nsh22> im thinkin about doing that for nw
15:05 <joda_bot> guru3: so we're just taking lack's proposal and go ahead ?
15:07 <joda_bot> guru3: the forums could use the default theme until the design choice has been made ... I guess it won't hurt to have the default theme installed as an alternative later
15:07 <guru3> not really
15:07 <guru3> it just seemed like a good idea to setup a repository
15:07 <joda_bot> default phpbb3 theme
15:07 <joda_bot> guru3: I agree with that :D
15:07 <joda_bot> ok
15:08 <Concord> guru3, I think durka wants to be approved as well ;)
15:08 <joda_bot> independand of design, I'd like to make a "lo-fi" theme by just reducing the subsilver pro code (keeping the style)
15:08 <guru3> durka has been approved
15:08 <joda_bot> later we can then just skin the lo-fi like the usual skin
15:09 <nsh22> guru3: how would i go about getting NW as an authentication thing (i.e. nsh22@nw)
15:09 <guru3> now at least we have a place to start
15:09 <guru3> nsh22: ask me and have a good reason for it
15:09  * nsh22 is thinking of a good reason...
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15:11 <zurd> i think todays gonna be a good day :)
15:11 <nsh22> its not
15:11 <nsh22> lol
15:11 <zurd> :(
15:11 <zurd> >.<
15:11 <ct|kyle> no it is not
15:11 <nsh22> :D
15:11 <joda_bot> zurd: just keep the happy mood and spread it
15:11 <joda_bot> nsh22: do you need some sunshine ?
15:11 <joda_bot> the sun is shining here :D
15:11 <zurd> lmao, near imposiable in here
15:11 <ct|kyle> I got a 3-5 page paper due in 4.5 hours. I only have about 1/4 of a page
15:11 <zurd> :O
15:12 <joda_bot> ct|kyle: O.o what about
15:12 <ct|kyle> Alfred Binet
15:12 <zurd> who?
15:12 <joda_bot> #g Alred Binet
15:12 <zurd> o.O
15:12 <ct|kyle> #google Alfred Binet
15:12 <armabot> ct|kyle: Search took 0.26 seconds: Alfred Binet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Binet>; Human Intelligence: Alfred Binet: <http://www.indiana.edu/~intell/binet.shtml>; Psychology History: <http://www.muskingum.edu/~psych/psycweb/history/binet.htm>; Alfred Binet (www.whonamedit.com): <http://www.whonamedit.com/doctor.cfm/1299.html>; A Science (2 more messages)
15:12 <joda_bot> ...
15:12 <nsh22> guru3: ummm ok.... could we (nw) be put on the authentication thingy. we are a clan with a number of growing servers and not all of us have a forums or ct account
15:12 <ct|kyle> g is google calc
15:13 <dlh> nsh22: you don't need a authority name to use authentication
15:13 <dlh> a short*
15:13 <nsh22> i know
15:13 <nsh22> wow i just had epic fps, like 200... then it came back to reality and went to 50...
15:14 <joda_bot> ct|kyle: ah ok
15:14 <zurd> ok, what do we (nw) need?
15:14 <joda_bot> ct|kyle: leave IRC and work :D
15:14 <zurd> to do so
15:14 <dlh> Do you have a website?
15:14 <zurd> what type of website?
15:14 <ct|kyle> joda_bot: no I think I can get it done
15:14 <nsh22> yes but we dont have acess to the files (its on one of those freeforum thingies)
15:14 <ct|kyle> I'll just ignore IRC
15:14 <dlh> I kind where you can host some php pages
15:15 <nsh22> aw...
15:16 <zurd> hrm....
15:16 <nsh22> well we could move it to te vps...
15:16 <joda_bot> dlh: I kind of *know* where ...
15:16 <joda_bot> ?
15:16 <zurd> thats a 50$ transfer fee
15:16 <nsh22> or just host some php pages there:P
15:16 <dlh> A kind*
15:16 <nsh22> zurd: ... ill think of a way
15:16 <joda_bot> dlh: ah ok
15:17 <zurd> nsh22: its all on you at this point :>
15:17 <dlh> nsh22, zurd: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Authentication_Server
15:17 <nsh22> zurd: if we can do a mysql backup (and you have all the files for the style we have) we can run it off the vps, but we would ened a domain name...
15:18 <nsh22> dlh: ty
15:18 <joda_bot> nsh22:have a look at dyndns.org
15:18 <zurd> i have the domain name
15:18 <zurd> nightwalkers.info
15:18 <nsh22> that make me happy...
15:18 <nsh22> but we will need a dyndns tho...
15:19 <zurd> we NEED a dns??
15:19 <nsh22> wait...
15:19 <nsh22> joda_bot: would we need a dns if we have a vps and a domain name already?
15:20 <nsh22> zurd: btw, whos paying for domain?
15:20 <dlh> Use the dns services provided by your registrar
15:20 <nsh22> what registrar?
15:20 <nsh22> for the vps?
15:20 <dlh> Where did you register your domain name?
15:20 <nsh22> zurd:
15:20 <zurd> angel bought it as a gift to me, then gave it to me, costs 98c a year
15:21 <joda_bot> nsh22: you don't even need a vps neccessarily
15:21 <nsh22> but where is it from (which site)
15:21 <zurd> godaddy.com
15:21 <joda_bot> I just use my router to host jedimasters.de
15:21 <nsh22> joda_bot: well we have one so we might as well use it
15:22 <joda_bot> you either can point the domain at the IP-Adress of you vps, but it would need a static IP
15:22 <nsh22> i think it is static...
15:22 <nsh22> luke-jr: is the vps's ip static?
15:22 <joda_bot> or you can setup nightwalker.info as an alias of nightwalkervps.dnydns.org and then run an dynamic dns client on the vps
15:23 <nsh22> free? lol
15:23 <joda_bot> I used the second way to host jedimasters.de on my router.
15:24 <joda_bot> is it that already ? :-)
15:24 <nsh22> but you have to pay for the dns client?
15:24 <joda_bot> huh ? no fees
15:24 <nsh22> sweet
15:24 <joda_bot> only for the nightwalker.info domain
15:24 <nsh22> iight
15:25 <zurd> hmmm
15:25 <nsh22> this is lookin good :P
15:25 <zurd> what if we upgraded our forums to a second level hosting plan?
15:25 <nsh22> ima start this process...
15:26 <nsh22> zurd: it only lasts for a little while, and with hosting it on our vps, we can control everything
15:26 <nsh22> ill confer with smooth on the matter as well...
15:27 <zurd> yeah, but only thing im worried about is the fees to transfer, or the hassle to get every1 switched over...
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15:27 <zurd> it'll wind up good, or very very bad
15:28 <nsh22> zurd: im checking now to see if we can do a mysql backup on ours site
15:29 <zurd> umk
15:30 <nsh22> dammit...
15:30 <nsh22> we cant do a backup...
15:31 <dlh> nsh22: you can have forums.<yourdomain>.info go to your forums as it does now, and everything else go to your vps
15:32 <zurd> :O
15:32 <joda_bot> dlh: they won't have a full fledged dns ... I'm not sure if you can setup subdomains with dyndns.org
15:32 <nsh22> dlh: ... iom not sure if that would help us. what we are ttryiong to do (ultamitly) is be able to get php pages to work on our site so we can do authenication)
15:32 <joda_bot> creating subdomains on godaddy might work
15:33 <dlh> Do you want auth to be tied to your forums?
15:34 <nsh22> i beleive so..
15:34 <nsh22> or atleast with a member list on our site
15:34 <guru3> getting closer... i almost have imap
15:34 <guru3> only been at it around 3 hours
15:36 <nsh22> it says i need to pay for dns...
15:37 <joda_bot> nsh22: if you try to register a domain name, yes
15:37 <nsh22> no, its already registered...
15:37 <joda_bot> nsh22: not if you just create a free dynamic dns on one of their subdomains
15:38 <nsh22> ah thats what im douing now...
15:38 <joda_bot> nsh22: with a static ip of the vps, you don't need dyndns
15:38 <nsh22> o0
15:38 <nsh22> so...
15:38 <nsh22> i dont need to get it?
15:38 <zurd> xD
15:38 <joda_bot> depends on the vps you use
15:38 <nsh22> lukes
15:38 <zurd> thats a pain off your ass
15:39 <joda_bot> if it has a dynamic ip you need dyndns otherwise you don't
15:39 <nsh22> i already set us up an account  :(
15:39 <nsh22> ok
15:39 <nsh22> so now im really confused...
15:39 <joda_bot> nsh22: dyndns has support to delete accounts I guess :-=
15:39 <nsh22> ..
15:40 <joda_bot> but having a dyndns account won't hurt you :-) just don't give them too much information about you ...
15:40 <joda_bot> email is enough usually :D
15:40 <nsh22> ok, so we have a a vps... we have a static ip (i think)... we have a domain name... now what
15:40 <zurd> o.o
15:41 <joda_bot> ask angel to point the domain to luke's vps (IF luke say that's ok to do
15:41 <dlh> Unless your forums are hosted on your vps, then you will not be able to connect armaauth with them.
15:41 <joda_bot> dlh: they can setup a self maintained authority independand of their forums
15:41 <dlh> right
15:42 <nsh22> dlh: im thinking of just doing a few phpo pageson the vps
15:42 <dlh> Yeah, that would work fine as-well
15:42  * nsh22 thinks smooth might be good at that :P
15:42 <zurd> hehe
15:42 <nsh22> lol
15:42  * zurd this hes only good in html and css
15:43 <nsh22> no he said hes good at  php...
15:43 <zurd> no good at php
15:43 <zurd> NO GOOD
15:43 <nsh22> you or smooth?
15:43 <zurd> O.o
15:43 <zurd> you lost me
15:43 <nsh22>  "zurd this hes only good in html and css" <=== what was that SUPOSSED to say
15:44 <dlh> If you're going to maintain auth manually, not being tied into your forums, then all you will need is http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Earmagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-work/annotate/head%3A/batch//authentication_reference.php
15:44 <zurd> thats a long url o.o
15:45 <nsh22> ...
15:45 <zurd> we need to include and configure that php page to have auth? THATS IT?!
15:45 <nsh22> so we just put that on our vps?
15:45 <nsh22> ...
15:46 <zurd> why did you tell us that 20mins ago?!
15:46 <zurd> >.<
15:46 <zurd> dlh; you da man, nontheless
15:46 <dlh> Basically, yes. It was linked from the wiki page I gave you before.
15:47 <nsh22> "It is written by a php n00b and therefore should be understandable by php n00bs :)"
15:47 <nsh22> lol
15:47 <zurd> ehe
15:48 <zurd> ugh theres like 7 people total playing arma right now >.>
15:48 <nsh22> lol
15:48  * nsh22 is hungry
15:48 <nsh22> imm off to9 get food
15:48  * nsh22 is away: food
15:48 <zurd> iight man, ttyl
15:49 <nsh22> ill be back in like 5 mins
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16:18 <guru3> i think i may just give up on imap
16:19 <nsh22> what is imap?
16:19 <Vanhayes> a new product from apple?
16:19 <guru3> :(
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16:20 <Concord> guru3 is it worth your time to show me how to use bzr&lp?
16:21 <Concord> or is it faster if I just send you the stuff?
16:21 <guru3> well
16:21 <guru3> you should learn
16:21 <guru3> just as i have to :S
16:21 <guru3> on linux?
16:21 <Concord> mac
16:21 <guru3> got bzr installed?
16:21 <Concord> yep
16:21 <BabyBug> Hello =)
16:21 <joda_bot> hi BabyBug
16:21 <guru3> bzr branch lp:address
16:21 <guru3> make changes
16:22 <guru3> bzr commit
16:22 <guru3> bzr push
16:22 <guru3> and then it's on lp
16:22 <guru3> (terminal)
16:22 <Concord> redwood:themes kliges$ bzr push lp:~armagetronad-web/armagetronad/themes
16:22 <Concord> bzr: ERROR: These branches have diverged.  Try using "merge" and then "push".
16:22 <Concord> redwood:themes kliges$
16:22 <guru3> run a bzr merge then
16:23 <guru3> not sure how it could have diverged
16:23 <guru3> given no one has made any changes
16:23 <Concord>  ERROR: Branches have no common ancestor, and no merge base revision was specified.
16:23 <BabyBug> ooo you have a themes branch :)
16:23 <guru3> you started with bzr branch right?
16:23 <Concord> yep
16:23 <guru3> then did commit
16:23 <guru3> and now it wont let you push
16:25 <luke-jr> nsh22: of course
16:26 <Concord> should I be cd'ed in the directory?
16:26 <guru3> yes
16:26 <guru3> i think
16:27 <luke-jr> zurd: probably a good idea to move the forums to the VPS..? :p
16:27 <Concord> ok
16:27 <Concord> No new revisions to push.
16:27 <Concord> got that
16:27 <nsh22> luke-jr: we cant, no backuos
16:28 <nsh22> luke-jr: also, is it possible to put a domain name on the vps then point it to forums?
16:29 <luke-jr> a domain name on the vps? wtf?
16:29 <luke-jr> domain names are abstract registrations, they're not "on" a computer
16:29 <BabyBug> I'm sure he means domain name pointing to the VPS.
16:29 <Concord> success!
16:29 <luke-jr> if it's pointing to the VPS, it's not pointing to the forums…?
16:29 <Concord> I think
16:29 <BabyBug> Oh, i assumed the forums are on the VPS :s my bad
16:30 <luke-jr> nsh22: what do you need backups for?
16:30 <luke-jr> BabyBug: that's the problem I suspect
16:30 <luke-jr> nsh22: did you agree to some terms that allow them to hold your data hostage?
16:30 <nsh22> to put the forums on the vps. dont really want eeryone to reregister and stuff
16:30 <Concord> nope
16:30 <nsh22> luke-jr: idunno, zurd might have
16:30 <Concord> oh yes
16:30 <luke-jr> nsh22: so tell them you're not needing a backup, just moving to another service and want your data to transfer?
16:30 <luke-jr> o
16:31 <Concord> but it put up my .DS_stores also :P
16:31 <nsh22> apparently its a $50 charge to transfer
16:31 <joda_bot> luke-jr: it's a free clan hosting forum thing, they won't release the data for free :D
16:31 <joda_bot> eheh
16:31 <joda_bot> thought so
16:31 <luke-jr> joda_bot: if zurd/nsh22 didn't agree to that, they're holding data hostage
16:32 <luke-jr> joda_bot: can't just take someone's data and refuse to give it to them
16:32 <nsh22> i think elder did when he made the site
16:32 <luke-jr> meh
16:32 <luke-jr> nsh22: how many posts?
16:33 <nsh22> 2800
16:33 <nsh22> Total posts 2800 | Total topics 351 | Total members 103 |
16:34 <BabyBug> Concord, bzr ignore to ignore files you don't want added.
16:34 <Concord> k
16:34 <luke-jr> ouch
16:34 <luke-jr> nsh22: how much would it cost to get backups?
16:34 <nsh22> 50
16:35 <luke-jr> o
16:35 <luke-jr> lame
16:36 <nsh22> yeah
16:37 <nsh22> so maybe get a ubdomain hat oints to the forums offof the vps
16:37 <luke-jr> English?
16:37 <nsh22> could i get a subdomain that points to the foriums while the main domain points to the vps
16:38 <luke-jr> depends on if your forums allows you to point domains at it
16:39 <nsh22> it does
16:39 <nsh22> we already habve the domain pointingat it
16:41 <luke-jr> o
16:41 <luke-jr> that's up to the domain ppl then
16:41 <luke-jr> :p
16:42 <Concord> yay
16:42 <nsh22> but you will allow me to put a domain on the vps?
16:44 <luke-jr> nsh22: where you point your domains is your business :p
16:44 <nsh22> okey dokey
17:09  * nsh22 is away: homework
17:09 <BabyBug> we don't give a fuck!
17:10 <nsh22> :P
17:13 <joda_bot> BabyBug: go do ur own homework :-)
17:13  * joda_bot is doing his
17:14 <BabyBug> I dont get homework anymore...Left school agesss ago, and i don't work :P
17:14 <nsh22> so what do you do?
17:14 <nsh22> :P
17:14 <BabyBug> nothing?
17:14 <BabyBug> drink mainly, hang out
17:14 <nsh22> oh yeah, i forgot...liz
17:15 <luke-jr> nsh22: BabyBug is a waste particle
17:15 <BabyBug> heh no, no liz no more
17:15 <BabyBug> and i am not a waste particle!!
17:15 <nsh22> no?
17:15 <nsh22> what happened to liz?
17:15  * BabyBug kicks luke
17:16 <nsh22> ]alias add kick "echp [$who kicks $1]"
17:16 <ljrbot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
17:16 <joda_bot> BabyBug: fix the wiki then
17:16 <joda_bot> :D
17:16 <nsh22> ]alias add kick "echo [$who kicks $1]"
17:16 <ljrbot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
17:16 <nsh22> ]kick me
17:16 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
17:16 <nsh22> oh...
17:17 <nsh22> ]alias add kicks "echo [$who kicks $1]"
17:17 <ljrbot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
17:17 <nsh22> ]kicks me
17:17 <ljrbot> nsh22: Error: "nsh22" is not a valid command.
17:17 <BabyBug> joda_bot, that's not something i'll be able to finish though :P I won't have a computer anymore soon.
17:17 <nsh22> ]alias add kicks "echo $who kicks $1"
17:17 <ljrbot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
17:17 <nsh22> ]kicks me
17:17 <ljrbot> nsh22 kicks me
17:17 <nsh22> :P
17:17 <nsh22> why not?
17:17 <BabyBug> i just won't, stop being a nosey git
17:18 <nsh22> :"(
17:19 <luke-jr> ]alias remove kick
17:19 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
17:19 <luke-jr> nsh22: make me a sandwich
17:20 <ct|kyle> ]luke-jr_work luke-jr
17:20 <nsh22> that i can do
17:20 <ljrbot> ct|kyle: Error: "luke-jr_work" is not a valid command.
17:20 <luke-jr> …
17:20 <nsh22> what you want on it?
17:20 <ct|kyle> :P
17:20 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: f u
17:20 <nsh22> :P
17:20  * nsh22 hands lueka tuna sandwich
17:20 <luke-jr> …
17:21 <luke-jr> nsh22: you're supposed to wait for the
17:21 <luke-jr> sudo make me a sandwich
17:21 <nsh22> oh...
17:21 <ct|kyle> #roulette
17:21 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
17:21  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
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17:21 <joda_bot> BabyBug: any contribution to the wiki is welcome and usually everlasting :D
17:21 <nsh22> epsay
17:22 <ct|kyle> epppuuusssssy
17:22 <luke-jr> eppusi!
17:22 <nsh22> epsy: how are the toilets in france, ive heard their realy bad...
17:23 <luke-jr> nsh22: french people don't use toilets
17:23 <BabyBug> nsh22, that's cause french people don't shave. So the toilets get covered in pubes
17:23 <nsh22> ok, rephrase: how are the holes in the ground
17:24  * ct|kyle banishes BabyBug, by stabbing her repetitively in the eye
17:24 <BabyBug> what did i do? :|
17:24 <ct|kyle> what diden't you do
17:24 <nsh22> LMAO
17:24 <nsh22> i think you meant who
17:24 <nsh22> :P
17:24 <nsh22> jkjjkjkjkjkjkjkjkkjkjkjkjk
17:25 <BabyBug> ...
17:25 <BabyBug> That wasn't nice ='(
17:25 <nsh22> sry
17:25 <ct|kyle> nsh22: you say mv what who
17:25 <nsh22> ??
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17:26 <nsh22> ok well now that ive made an ass of myself.... ill go do english homework
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17:27 <ct|kyle> lol
17:27 <BabyBug> beggin'! beggin yoOOOOOooooOOOOOOOOOoooOOOOOOOOoooooOOOOOOooooooOOOOOoooooooOOOOOOOoooooooooooh
17:28 <armabot> armacommits: [themes] r5 got rid of rivals || [themes] r4 phpbb3 light theme || [themes] r3 ignoring DS store || [themes] r2 conc's initial changes
17:33 <epsy> hi
17:33 <Concord> hi
17:33 <BabyBug> Haaaiii
17:33 <Concord> epsy: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=204884#204884
17:34 <epsy> @title http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=204884#204884
17:34 <teabot> epsy: Armagetron Forums :: View topic - New site theme
17:34 <epsy> yeah?
17:34 <Concord> tank set up a lp
17:34 <epsy> seen that
17:34 <Concord> oh ok
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18:04 <Pathetique> #ping
18:04 <armabot> pong
18:05  * BabyBug throws Pathetique down a well
18:05 <Pathetique> oi
18:06 <Pathetique> thatsnotnice
18:06 <BabyBug> There's water at the bottom
18:06 <BabyBug> Not a hard floor
18:06 <BabyBug> I'm not completely heartless =)
18:09 <luke-jr> meh
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18:10 <epsy> not completely
18:13 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: how much longer till your baby becomes 6 months
18:14 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, 2 days ago
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18:14 <luke-jr> hey gene
18:14 <compguygene> hi
18:14 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: I thought that meant youl were gone from here for good
18:14 <ct|kyle> oi compguygene
18:15 <compguygene> oh...i thought you said that thus far the zones v2 server was stable..as in not crashing?
18:15 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, it meant i could get a child minder while i worked. But i don't have to start work until November now so meh
18:15 <ct|kyle> darn
18:16 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, no need to worry though, i'll be out of your hair soon, won't have a computer much longer :P
18:16 <ct|kyle> yay :P
18:16 <luke-jr> compguygene: no idea, I just made it work
18:16 <luke-jr> I haven't tried to crash it
18:17 <ct|kyle> #si (flagfort)
18:17 <armabot> ct|kyle: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “(flagfort)” at the moment, sorry.
18:17 <luke-jr> bug hunting and fixing is when we start working toward 0.4
18:17 <ct|kyle> #si testing
18:17 <armabot> ct|kyle: Crazy Tronners Sty Testing (Flag fort): Players (0/10):
18:17 <ct|kyle> compguygene: that is zones v2, try crashing it :P
18:17 <epsy> well, we don't have to make it crash either :)
18:18 <ct|kyle> I wish luke-jr could figure out why shape velocity does not work right.
18:20 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: wtf are you doing with shape velocity?
18:20 <luke-jr> trunk doesn't *have* shape velocity stuff
18:20 <luke-jr> I just wrote that in my bouncing branch
18:20 <compguygene> np..
18:21 <compguygene> pathetique is actually doing most of the new server development on my VPS
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18:21 <Pathetique> sweet deal
18:21 <compguygene> i am trying to encourage him to take a shot at trying out a .3 binary that i am setting up
18:22 <Pathetique> ct|kyle: how to obtain edlog.txt?
18:22 <Pathetique> the sty+ct we're using doesn't output it.
18:23 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: you told me that shape->setPosX(tFunction(owner_->Position().x, (owner_->Direction().x * owner_->Speed())));  should set the speed the seconds part of tFunction
18:23 <ct|kyle> Pathetique: it is ladderlog.txt edlog is depreciated
18:24 <ct|kyle> #cfg2 ladder_log_write
18:24 <armabot> ct|kyle: Sorry, no matches :S
18:24 <Pathetique> lolol
18:24 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: yeah
18:24 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: but that moves faster than the player
18:26 <luke-jr> how odd
18:27 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: if I set it to 0 it does better than setting it to the player speed
18:27 <ct|kyle> but the zone looks a little pushy
18:28 <Pathetique> compguygene: how come the shell I'm using is quite laggy?
18:28 <Pathetique> it took about 15 seconds for "cd" to be recognized and executed.
18:29 <Pathetique> 8 seconds for "clear"
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18:29 <luke-jr> Ctrl-L is a faster clear
18:29 <z4chh> hi
18:29 <Pathetique> oic
18:29 <luke-jr> hi z4chh
18:30 <Pathetique> I mean, I know secure data transmission is a lot slower
18:30 <Pathetique> but sometimes it gets ridiculous. lol
18:30 <luke-jr> Pathetique: maybe has something to do with your firewall; it's preventing diagnostics (tracepath)
18:30 <Pathetique> LOL
18:31 <compguygene> i don't know...
18:31 <compguygene> it's not laggy for me?
18:31 <Pathetique> try now luke-jr
18:31 <compguygene> but i use windows/putty
18:31 <Pathetique> but make it quick
18:31 <Pathetique> \my client is sortakindapriated
18:32 <Pathetique> so it might phone home while it has the chance.
18:32 <Pathetique> :P
18:33 <luke-jr> Pathetique: still nope
18:33 <Pathetique> Prolly the router, then.
18:33 <Pathetique> Paranoid Father ftl.
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18:39 <z4chh> i like how the post count and topic count is in hex
18:39 <BabyBug> No you dont
18:39 <z4chh> o rly?
18:40 <BabyBug> Yup
18:40 <BabyBug> It's completely and utterly horrible *glares at guru3*
18:40 <ct|kyle> #base 16 10 136
18:40 <armabot> ct|kyle: 310
18:41 <ct|kyle> see BabyBug IRC works well for those that can't handle hex in their  head
18:43 <luke-jr> lol
18:44 <BabyBug> lame...
18:48 <compguygene> c u all later gtg
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18:55 <ct|kyle> so BabyBug how much longer will we be forced to put up with you?
18:57 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, until whenever my ex decides he wants his laptop back :P
18:59 <Pathetique> LOL
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19:03 <Pathetique> For compiling on linux, the order goes ./bootstrap.sh, then ./configure, and finally make, right?
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19:04 <BabyBug> right
19:04 <Pathetique> wtf
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19:04 <BabyBug> Pathetique ?
19:04 <Pathetique> armabot: wb
19:04 <Pathetique> Hmm...hold on...
19:05 <Pathetique> ok, bootstrap runs okay, I guess.
19:06 <Pathetique> Says everything's flagged to be configured and built.
19:06 <BabyBug> wait a sec
19:06 <BabyBug> What are you trying to compile? client or server?
19:06 <Pathetique> 0.2.8-armagetronad-sty-invulnerable
19:07 <BabyBug> So...you're wanting to set up a server?
19:07 <BabyBug> you have all the right configure flags don't you?
19:07 <Pathetique> iunno
19:07 <Pathetique> LOL
19:08 <Pathetique> I don't think sty can be compiled as a client.
19:08 <BabyBug> oh, well when you run ./configure, you have to run it with certain flags to compile the server...
19:08 <Pathetique> oic
19:08 <BabyBug> I don't know what those flags are though
19:08 <Pathetique> Options selected are:
19:08 <BabyBug> So someone else will have to help
19:08 <Pathetique>      Build Regular Game Client: true
19:08 <Pathetique>      Build Dedicated Server: false
19:08 <Pathetique>      Build Master Server: false
19:09 <Pathetique> that makes sense why it won't work, then.
19:09 <Pathetique> Thanks for the help, babybug.
19:09 <BabyBug> #aawiki server
19:10 <Pathetique> ./configure --help will tell us.
19:10 <armabot> BabyBug: Search took 0.17 seconds: Server Administration - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Server_Administration>; Servers - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Servers>; Server Administration Guide - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Server_Administration_Guide>; FAQ - (3 more messages)
19:11 <BabyBug> wrtlprnft, are you making armabots computer do lots of work?
19:16 <Pathetique> Maybe he's sticking his plug into armabots socket?
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19:23 <Vanhayes> #ping
19:23 <armabot> pong
19:24 -!- nsh22 [n=neal@unaffiliated/nsh22] has joined #armagetron
19:24 <nsh22> hello
19:28 <Pathetique> hello
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19:44 <nsh22> #hello
19:44 <armabot> Hello nsh22 :) Quote #55: "<MrBougo> Lucifer_arma: quote me!" (added by epsy at 01:30 PM, August 12, 2007)
19:44 <nsh22> #weather innisfil
19:44 <armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Innisfil, Innisfil, Ontario is 58.6°F (2:44 PM EDT on March 17, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 29%. Dew Point: 26.6°F. Pressure: 30.12 in 1019.9 hPa (Falling).
19:45  * nsh22 is away: 
19:45 <Pathetique> #weather branford
19:45 <armabot> Pathetique: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
19:45 <Pathetique> LOL
19:46 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
19:46 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
19:46 <Vanhayes> #weather e5n 5c5
19:46 <armabot> Vanhayes: The current temperature in Hampton High School, Hampton, New Brunswick is 40.3°F (3:46 PM ADT on March 17, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 255%. Windchill: 41.0°F. Pressure: 30.47 in 1031.7 hPa (Falling).
19:47 <Vanhayes> is it still called windchill if it makes it warmer?
19:47 <Vanhayes> #finc 40.3
19:47 <armabot> Vanhayes: 4.61111111111
19:47 <nsh22> #finc 58.6
19:47 <armabot> nsh22: 14.7777777778
19:47 <nsh22> #finc 58
19:47 <armabot> nsh22: 14.4444444444
19:47 <nsh22> #finc -40
19:48 <armabot> nsh22: -40.0
19:48 <Vanhayes> nice out there
19:48 <nsh22> o0
19:48 <Pathetique> #finc stfu
19:48 <armabot> Pathetique: Error: stfu is not a valid unit.
19:48 <Vanhayes> #g 1 USD in CAD
19:48 <armabot> Vanhayes: 1 U.S. dollar = 1.27340032 Canadian dollars
19:48 <nsh22> #g 1 euro in cad
19:48 <armabot> nsh22: 1 Euro = 1.65198224 Canadian dollars
19:49 <nsh22> #g 700 cad in euro
19:49 <armabot> nsh22: 700 Canadian dollars = 423.733369 Euros
19:49 <nsh22> :(
19:50 <Vanhayes> #g 12650 Cad in EURO
19:51 <armabot> Vanhayes: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
19:51 <Vanhayes> #g 12650 CAD in EURO
19:51 <armabot> Vanhayes: 12 650 Canadian dollars = 7 657.46732 Euros
19:53 <Vanhayes> #tea
19:53 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): free kill (dlh@generalconsumption.org), Hype, michal, stax, ß|AoS|, WithGlasses
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19:57 <nsh22> oh noes
20:01 <Vanhayes> #date
20:01 <armabot> Vanhayes: 08:01 PM, March 17, 2009
20:01 <Vanhayes> is it tuesday?
20:01 <nsh22> yes
20:01 <nsh22> st patricks day
20:01 <Pathetique> roflroflrofl
20:01 <Vanhayes> Happy st patty's everyone btw
20:02 <Vanhayes> where everyone gets to pretend to be irish by drinking too much and fighting
20:02 <Vanhayes> good ol racism
20:04  * nsh22 is tired
20:09 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: when does wind make it feel warmer?
20:10 <BabyBug> When you're in a desert
20:10 <Vanhayes> that was my point the "windchill" mad it 1 degree or so warmer
20:10 <nsh22> luke-jr: Vanhayes: The current temperature in Hampton High School, Hampton, New Brunswick is 40.3°F (3:46 PM ADT on March 17, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 255%. Windchill: 41.0°F. Pressure: 30.47 in 1031.7 hPa (Falling).
20:10 <nsh22> since when was humidity 255%?
20:11 <Vanhayes> its wet here, alot
20:11 <Vanhayes> we just swim everywhere, we cant walk
20:11 <nsh22> its never over 100% humidity...ever
20:11 <Vanhayes> you just arent trying hard enough there
20:11 <Vanhayes> we give 255%
20:13 <Vanhayes> anyways that weather thing messes it up all the time
20:13 <Vanhayes> #weather e5n 5c5
20:13 <armabot> Vanhayes: The current temperature in Hampton High School, Hampton, New Brunswick is 40.3°F (4:13 PM ADT on March 17, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 255%. Windchill: 41.0°F. Pressure: 30.47 in 1031.7 hPa (Falling).
20:14 <Pathetique> LOL so I discovered one bad thing about Apple's Time Machine back up program.
20:15 <Pathetique> Deleting Backups makes for a very, very long process.
20:18 <ivantis2> its saint patricks day today?
20:18 <ivantis2> really?
20:18 <nsh22> yes
20:18 <ivantis2> hey Pathetique, i havent talked to you in a while
20:18 <Pathetique> indeed
20:18 <ivantis2> how come i didnt know about it? its spring break here, i always remember it being on a school day
20:19 <ivantis2> #weather 66044
20:19 <armabot> ivantis2: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 74.7°F (2:19 PM CDT on March 17, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 26%. Dew Point: 42.8°F. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Falling).
20:20 <ivantis2> #weather 67208
20:20 <armabot> ivantis2: The current temperature in Peach Tree, Eastborough, Kansas is 73.2°F (2:20 PM CDT on March 17, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 51.8°F. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Falling).
20:21 <Pathetique> :\
20:21 <Pathetique>  /msg ftw, ivantis2
20:21 <ivantis2> /msg--
20:22 <ivantis2> so Pathetique, what have you been doing? anything interesting recently?
20:22 <Pathetique> Not really...just trying to innovate with different game modes.
20:22 <Pathetique> which reminds me
20:22 <ivantis2> no i mean in real life
20:23 <Pathetique> oh, well, the boyfriend got his own place
20:23 <Pathetique> Other than that nothing else seems "interesting" atm
20:24 <ivantis2> what boyfriend?
20:24 <Pathetique> my boyfriend
20:24 <ivantis2> oh, cool
20:25 <Pathetique> indeed.
20:25 <ivantis2> yeah, im pretty bored right now too
20:25 <luke-jr> Pathetique is a girl? :o
20:25  * nsh22 was thinking that too
20:26 <Pathetique> Nope.
20:26 <ivantis2> we still have no idea what kind of creature luke-jr is
20:27 <nsh22> ??????????????????????????
20:28 <ivantis2> ?????????????????????????????
20:28 <nsh22> btw, how (and why) do ppl do those small 42 things in tron
20:29 <ivantis2> noob
20:29 <ivantis2> its unrecognized unicode characters, iirc
20:29 <Pathetique> its a mac character
20:29 <nsh22> ???
20:29 <Pathetique> alt+space
20:29 <nsh22> oh
20:29 <Pathetique> well
20:29 <Pathetique> shift+alt+space
20:30 <Pathetique> its just whitespace, really.
20:30 <nsh22> oh ok
20:30 <ivantis2> there are a bunch of other ones that will appear as a 42 like that
20:30 <nsh22> see ivantis2 , thats how you answer a question :P
20:30 <ivantis2> the mac alt+shift+space
20:30 <ivantis2> is only one of them
20:31 <dlh> 42?
20:31 <Pathetique> for people with smaller resolutions, dlh, it appears as a box.
20:32 <Pathetique> There are places I could go with that...
20:32 <Pathetique> LOL
20:32 <ivantis2> yeah, in a center message it looks like a 42
20:32 <nsh22> :P
20:32 <luke-jr> err
20:33 <dlh> yes, err...
20:33 <luke-jr> walls *are* game objects, right?
20:33 <nsh22> no :P
20:33 <luke-jr> ……………………
20:33 <nsh22> i dunno
20:33 <nsh22> you know im retarded...
20:36  * nsh22 is back (gone 00:50:56)
20:36  * luke-jr smacks nsh22
20:36 <Pathetique> ct|kyle: P4: it would be really 1337 of you guys to make an extension to the normal config file format for scripting so it would be not quite as difficult as it is to do scripting. :)
20:36 <BabyBug> nsh22, type /set away_show_message off
20:36 <nsh22> oh
20:36 <nsh22> ok
20:36 <nsh22> ty BabyBug
20:37 <nsh22> aww, now i vcant annoy you...
20:37 <ivantis2> BabyBug, type /set do_not_ban ivantis
20:37 <MrBougo> nsh22, sure you can
20:37 <Pathetique> that's the idea
20:37 <MrBougo> type /exec -o yes
20:37 <Pathetique> LOL
20:37 <ivantis2> y
20:37 <ivantis2> y
20:37 <ivantis2> y
20:37 <ivantis2> y
20:37 <ivantis2> y
20:37 <ivantis2> y
20:37 <nsh22> what does that do?
20:37 <ivantis2> y
20:37 <ivantis2> y
20:37 <ivantis2> y
20:37 <MrBougo> ivantis2, you win
20:37 <ivantis2> y
20:37 <ivantis2> y
20:37 <MrBougo> nsh22, that :p
20:37 <ivantis2> y
20:37 <ivantis2> y
20:37 <ivantis2> y
20:37 <ivantis2> y
20:37 <nsh22> EXEC	The system cannot find the file specified.
20:37 <Pathetique> So I was on a register at work
20:37 <ivantis2> y
20:37 <ivantis2> y
20:37 <nsh22> EXEC	The system cannot find the file specified.
20:37 <MrBougo> ivantis2, you better restart your irc client :pp
20:37 <ivantis2> y
20:37 <BabyBug> Lucifer, ping
20:37 -!- ivantis2 [n=ivantis@] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
20:38 <MrBougo> nsh22, aw
20:38 <BabyBug> or not
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20:38 <Pathetique> And this person came through with meat
20:38 <MrBougo> haha ivantis2
20:38 <Pathetique> The meat's price was 13.37
20:38 <nsh22> <nsh22> EXEC The system cannot find the file specified.
20:38 <Pathetique> I couldn't believe it.
20:38 <ivantis2> well it sounded like a pretty good idea to me
20:38 <MrBougo> I said nsh22 not you :p
20:38 <nsh22> EXEC	The system cannot find the file specified.
20:38 <MrBougo> aw nsh22 you're on windows
20:38 <MrBougo> then it wont work
20:38 <nsh22> YOUR A CTCP VERSION!
20:38 <Pathetique> #tell nsh22 shutthefuckup
20:38 <nsh22> #m Pathetique lol
20:39 <Pathetique> #king
20:39 <Pathetique> wtf
20:39 <nsh22> #thing
20:39 <nsh22> #ping
20:39 <armabot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
20:39 <armabot> pong
20:40 <nsh22> <armabot> Pathetique wants me to tell you: shutthefuckup
20:40 <nsh22> ...
20:40 <Pathetique> LOOOOOOOL
20:40 <ivantis2> oh now i remember what yes does
20:40 <armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-zone-bouncing] r901 trigger zZone::On* for non-cycles
20:41 <nsh22> ]hug the channel
20:41 <ljrbot> nsh22 hugs the channel because they like them
20:41 <MrBougo> ivantis2, it's supposed to be piped into annoying programs asking you if you really want to do this and this
20:41 <MrBougo> ivantis2, now /join #0,0
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20:41 <nsh22> MrBougo: ...
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20:41 <MrBougo> lmao
20:41 <nsh22> that wasnt nice
20:41 -!- ivantis2 [n=ivantis@adsl-71-158-214-226.dsl.wchtks.sbcglobal.net] has joined #armagetron
20:41 <Pathetique> Wussat one do?
20:41 <MrBougo> :p
20:42 <MrBougo> Pathetique, it's a trick
20:42 <ivantis2> seemed like a pretty good idea to me
20:42 <MrBougo> looks like a funny channel name
20:42 <Pathetique> There is no room #0,0
20:42 <MrBougo> but you actually join #0
20:42 <MrBougo> but at the same time, /join 0
20:42 <MrBougo> and that makes you leave all channels :p
20:42 <Pathetique> sweet
20:42 <ivantis2> so why not /join 0?
20:42 <Pathetique> so if I'm ever leaving or whatever
20:42 <Pathetique> and don't want to type /disconnect
20:42 <MrBougo> ivantis2, because it doesnt look like a channel name :p
20:42 <Pathetique> I could just do that.
20:42 <MrBougo> Pathetique, yep
20:43 <ivantis2> and i have seen a channel with a comma in the name
20:43 <ivantis2> fail
20:43 <MrBougo> no you havent
20:43 <MrBougo> /join takes multiple args, comma-separated :p
20:43 <ivantis2> i think i have
20:43 <ivantis2> really?
20:43 <ivantis2> not space seperated?
20:43 <MrBougo> maybe too
20:43 <MrBougo> idk
20:43 <ivantis2> how dumb
20:44 <MrBougo> try /join #blahblahblah 0
20:44 <MrBougo> :p
20:44 <Pathetique> noob separated, AFAIK
20:44 <Pathetique> BabyBug: kin
20:44 <Pathetique> errr
20:44 <Pathetique> BabyBug: king
20:45 <BabyBug> what?
20:45 <Pathetique> ...
20:45 <Pathetique> #king
20:45 <MrBougo> lol
20:45 <Pathetique> whodunnit
20:45 <Pathetique> #alias add king say kong
20:45 <armabot> Pathetique: The operation succeeded.
20:45 <ivantis2> #king
20:45 <Pathetique> #king
20:45 <ivantis2> say?
20:45 <armabot> kong
20:45 <ivantis2> its echo, noob
20:46 <Pathetique> No, it isn't, noob.
20:46 <ivantis2> oh i guess say works too
20:46 <armabot> kong
20:46 <MrBougo> #help say
20:46 <armabot> MrBougo: (say <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "echo $1".
20:46 <MrBougo> :p
20:46 <Pathetique> lololololol
20:46 <MrBougo> #say blah blah
20:46 <armabot> blah blah
20:46 <MrBougo> mmh
20:46 <Pathetique> don't use mmh
20:46 <MrBougo> meh
20:46 <Pathetique> It sounds like you're sticking your plug into someone's socket.
20:47 <Pathetique> Hmm is much better for thought-related messages.
20:47 <MrBougo> eh
20:47 <MrBougo> well
20:47 <MrBougo> who said I wasnt :/
20:47 <Pathetique> LOL
20:48 <MrBougo> mmhmm, toughtful plugging!
20:48 <ivantis2> me
20:49 <ivantis2> je
20:52 <ivantis2> ?""[yeaH I THink wwe need something to talk agoutb
20:52 <ivantis2> im getting bored, and now my keyboard is screwing up
20:53 <Vanhayes> talk about global warming, try to solve it
20:55 <Vanhayes> guess not
20:59 <ivantis2> ...some thing is really wrong with my keyboard now. i cant type a question mark, it just makes a beep sound if i try to type one
20:59 <ivantis2> maybe it knows im too smart to need to ask questions
21:00 <Pathetique> sure, why not.
21:00 <Pathetique> LOL
21:00 <nsh22> maybe its cuz your dumb and ask to many questions
21:03 <Pathetique> to his credit, asking questions is the only way to become un-dumb.
21:06 -!- ivantis2 [n=ivantis@adsl-71-158-214-226.dsl.wchtks.sbcglobal.net] has quit ["Leaving"]
21:08 <Pathetique> ohdear.
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21:10 <Vanhayes> #tea
21:10 <Vanhayes> #ping
21:10 <Pathetique> armabot seems to be sleeping or something.
21:12 <Vanhayes> probably drunk
21:12 <nsh22> wrtlprnft: whats wrong with armabot?
21:14 <nsh22> #say hi
21:15 <Vanhayes> she is passed out drunk like the alcoholic she is
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21:15 <nsh22> #ping
21:16 <armabot> pong
21:16 <nsh22> wow
21:16 <nsh22> '#thing
21:16 <nsh22> #thing
21:17 <Pathetique> enough, nsh.
21:17 <Pathetique> :\
21:17 <Vanhayes> #tea
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21:18 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): Aiphaton, Citrus`, diametrical, Entergriper, Fini, idntblg
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21:34 <BabyBug> #tea
21:34 <armabot> BabyBug: Fortress Café: Players (5/32): apparition, BabyBug, Player 1, TnG 4ShotZ, |x|Dimb
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22:40 <Pathetique> sex
22:40 <Pathetique> o.O
22:40 <MrBougo> okay
22:40 <Pathetique> LOL
22:40 <MrBougo> oh
22:40 <MrBougo> I forgot you're femaile
22:40 <MrBougo> female too
22:40 <Pathetique> nonono
22:40 <MrBougo> wu
22:40 <MrBougo> t
22:40 <Pathetique> <--has penis
22:40 <BabyBug> haha
22:40 <MrBougo> lmao
22:40 <MrBougo> whatev
22:40 <Pathetique> <-- no vag
22:41 <MrBougo> yeah sure
22:41 <Pathetique> i r srs
22:42 <MrBougo> ur grmr is srs
22:42 <Pathetique> grmr?
22:42 <Pathetique> oic
22:42 <Pathetique> grammar
22:42 <Pathetique> lol
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22:58 <ivantis2> #weather 66044
22:59 <ivantis2> why is she gone?
22:59 <ivantis2> @weather 66044
23:00 <ivantis2> @help weather
23:00 <ivantis2> ??
23:00 <Pathetique> ivantis2: armabot is not in the chatroom.
23:00 <ivantis2> i know
23:01 <ivantis2> @ is for teabot
23:01 <BabyBug> I don't get the #weather command. Are americans really so lazy that they can't look outside?
23:01 <Pathetique> LOL
23:02 <ivantis2> uh maybe we want to know what the exact temperature is?
23:02 <ivantis2> but that actually hasnt ever been useful information to me
23:03 <Pathetique> YES
23:03 <Pathetique> I GOT THE SCRIPT WORKING
23:03 <Pathetique> WOOOOHOOOO
23:04 <ivantis2> what script?
23:04 <ivantis2> dont be too proud of yourself
23:04 <Pathetique> This is a large step for me.
23:05 <ivantis2> what script??
23:05 <BabyBug> ivantis2, if you want to know step outside and find out. Feeling the temperature is alot more effective than reading numbers
23:05 <Pathetique> I am not at liberty to discuss such a matter
23:05 <ivantis2> why?
23:05 <ivantis2> dude just tell me what its for
23:05 <ivantis2> i am curious now
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23:11 <ivantis2> Pathetique, you are going to need to tell me
23:12 <StickyNoob> oh wow you got it to work, thats awesome
23:13 <ivantis2> StickyNoob, you know something about this? tell me
23:13 <ivantis2> once i get curious about something, it wont leave my head
23:14 <StickyNoob> i cant discuss it either
23:14 <Pathetique> Its a script that finds and catalogues necropheliac pr0n over the internets.
23:14 <ivantis2> i am not going to sleep to night if you dont tell me
23:15 <Pathetique> You going to sleep now?
23:16 <Pathetique> going to be able to*
23:16 <ivantis2> no
23:16 <Pathetique> whynot?
23:16 <ivantis2> i dont believe that
23:16 <Pathetique> I was gonna say before if you did then you'd need help
23:16 <Pathetique> LOL
23:17 <Pathetique> ...
23:17 <epsy> LOL and "..." can't mix together
23:18 <ivantis2> epsy, you missed something
23:18 <Pathetique> epsy: ===	Unknown CTCP whatisthescript? () from ivantis2
23:18 <ivantis2> ChatZilla? isnt that something that luke-jr likes?
23:18 <epsy> ok?
23:18 <epsy> what am I doing in this?
23:18 <Pathetique> That's what the "..." was aat.
23:18 <Pathetique> at*
23:18 <epsy> ah yeah
23:19 <epsy> there's a solution
23:19 <Pathetique> oui
23:19 <ivantis2> non
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23:20  * BabyBug looks at epsy...When are the pretty percentage things getting merged into the main branch :D
23:20 <epsy> cmake?
23:20 <BabyBug> that's the one
23:21 <epsy> when we can do what we can with our current system
23:21 <BabyBug> oh... >.< it des more than just build?
23:22 <epsy> well, the CMakeList.txt's already faiil at building proper clients :)
23:23 <epsy> and well, there's make run, and whatever's in the -build branches
23:24 <BabyBug> oh...long wait to the pretty colours then :(
23:24 <epsy> not so long
23:25 <BabyBug> there's no such thing as "not so long" when it comes to arma development :P
23:25 <Pathetique> LOL
23:25 <Pathetique> Yeah
23:25 <Pathetique> That's like saying "Two Weeks"
23:25 <BabyBug> s/weeks/years/
23:25 <epsy> well, you know I'm busy on other stuff right now
23:26 <Pathetique> filming Rubber Duckies Gone Wild in the bathtub, epsy?
23:26 <BabyBug> lol it wasn't meant to be a personal dig at you :P
23:26 <BabyBug> well it wasn't a dig at anyone
23:26 <luke-jr> ivantis2: u suck
23:26 <luke-jr> does cmake have a replacement for ./configure --help? :x
23:26 <epsy> you usually don't have a ./configure step
23:27 <Pathetique> meaning it just works, right?
23:27 <epsy> I don't really see the need for it anyway
23:27 <luke-jr> epsy: I mean something that shows a full list of options
23:27 <epsy> like, targets to build or..?
23:28 <luke-jr> optional compile time stuff
23:28 <luke-jr> Armathentication, Zones, Fortress, etc
23:28 <Pathetique> Master Server...
23:28 <epsy> optional compile stuff shouldn't exist :)
23:28 <Pathetique> lolol
23:28 <luke-jr> also, the configure step exists for a reason-- OS can vary quite a bit
23:28 <luke-jr> epsy: of course it should
23:28 <luke-jr> there's a reason it exists
23:29 <epsy> the "cmake ." step creates the files ./configure created
23:29 <luke-jr> cool
23:29 <epsy> with pretty much the same amount of data
23:29 <luke-jr> so what about compile time options? and a list of them?
23:30 <epsy> I don't know, and I would doubt it
23:30 <luke-jr> just because I want to build a server doesn't mean I want to build all the plugins, for example
23:30 <epsy> specify a target to build
23:30 <epsy> by default it will build every target except those marked as "do not build me all the time"
23:31 <epsy> there's a list of targets which you can get (on unix makefiles) with make help
23:31 <luke-jr> so what about #ifdefs, not plugins?
23:32 <luke-jr> eg, Armathentication
23:32 <epsy> you could pass env variables to cmake
23:32 <epsy> yeah
23:32 <epsy> that's probably it
23:32 <luke-jr> -.-
23:32 <BabyBug> haha...
23:33 <epsy> luke-jr, it's meant to run as a GUI just as well as a console app
23:33 <Pathetique> :o
23:33 <luke-jr> epsy: so it doesn't run as a GUI?
23:33 <epsy> so -- options are not really an option, I guess
23:33 <Pathetique> I'd like that a lot, epsy.
23:33 <Pathetique> GUI ftw :D
23:34 <luke-jr> "we don't want to make a usable GUI, so we'll make sure it's not usable as a console app either!"
23:34 <luke-jr> XD]
23:34 <epsy> luke-jr, I'll try to check how others do that kind of stuff, but I'm not sure if anybody else does that weird kind of stuff :)
23:34 <luke-jr> it's not weird, it's normal
23:34 <luke-jr> look at KDE ☺
23:34 <luke-jr> they have plenty of it I'm sure
23:34 <Pathetique> The purpose of not having a GUI is so you don't get every single tronner making his/her own noob server?
23:34 <epsy> mm I will need some disk space for that
23:35 <luke-jr> Pathetique: you don't need to compile to run a server
23:35 <luke-jr> Pathetique: and the GUI talked about herein is just the build
23:35 <luke-jr> not the server itself
23:35 <Pathetique> oic
23:35  * Pathetique shuts up
23:35 <BabyBug> hey the cmake guy looks cool
23:35 <Pathetique> :X
23:35 <BabyBug> gui*
23:35 <BabyBug> and easy!
23:35 <luke-jr> GUI server is called HYBRID
23:35 <epsy> luke-jr, any idea what relatively small package I would download?
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23:37 <Pathetique> Random 0.3.0 question: is it possible to have a square zone that doesn't spin, but still has moving walls?
23:38 <epsy> like what?
23:38 <Pathetique> like, say we have one zone shapecircle
23:38 <Pathetique> then we have a square defined
23:38 <epsy> luke-jr, repeat: any idea what relatively small kde package I would download?
23:38 <epsy> or could
23:38 <epsy> yea
23:38 <epsy> h
23:38 <Pathetique> can the square not spin, but still have the "spinning" wall segments?
23:38 <Pathetique> To show that it is a zone?
23:39 <epsy> ah
23:39 <epsy> idk :s
23:39 <epsy> I think they are all rendered plain
23:39 <Pathetique> It would be cool to be able to define a motion state in the map file ;)
23:40 <Pathetique> *hinthint*
23:40 <Pathetique> ;)
23:40 <epsy> I'm not really into that myself
23:40 <Pathetique> seeing as luke-jr seems to be the most knowledgeable of 0.3.0 zones stuff, he should prolly field the question.
23:40 <Pathetique> lol
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23:41 <epsy> he deserted
23:41 <Pathetique> luke-jr deserted us?
23:41 <epsy> so seems it
23:42 <epsy> luke-jr, well, #m me
23:42 <epsy> good night
23:42 <Pathetique> epsy
23:42 <Pathetique> armabot is not alive yet
23:42 <BabyBug> night
23:42 <epsy> then he can use his own bot
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23:48 <ivantis2> whats m do?
23:53 <ct|kyle> Pathetique: everytime.cfg ?
23:53 <Pathetique> huh?
23:54 <ct|kyle> Pathetique: maybe I don't understand what you were asking
23:54 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, He wanted a square zone. With the walls rotating. But the 4 corners of the square stay in the same place!
23:55 <BabyBug> I think
23:55 <ct|kyle> like an option to Set_Rotation
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23:59 <ivantis2> i had kind of a good idea
23:59 <ivantis2> for everytime.cfg, there should be things that are like the variables for echo in supybots

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