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Log from 2009-03-14:
--- Day changed Sat Mar 14 2009
00:03 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50870676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron
00:03 <z-man> any mumble testing going on?
00:03 <luke-jr> nope
00:04 <luke-jr> just some guy in #KCLUG who is trying to use a damaged-in-shipment system instead of returning it
00:05 <z-man> Sounds like fun.
00:06 <luke-jr> his kernel build took 3 hours because of HD issues
00:06 <luke-jr> and he had to reinsert the RAM and something else
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00:26 <joda_bot> z-man: are you stil awake ?
00:26 <z-man> No :)
00:26 <joda_bot> hehe
00:26 <joda_bot> I just send the mumbles people our dev mumbles thread
00:26 <joda_bot> and asked if anyone is interested to give their view on our approach
00:27 <luke-jr> does Mumble communicate thru the game server?
00:27 <epsy> nighty
00:27 <joda_bot> gn8 epsy
00:27 <luke-jr> or what?
00:27 <z-man> luke-jr: no, not yet, of course :)
00:27 <z-man> But the plan would be that we develop a management module (in python, say)
00:27  * luke-jr wonders why we can't just add a VOICE_URI setting and support standard SIP or IAX2
00:27 <z-man> and the game server tells the management module which players are on and in which teams
00:27 <epsy> aw, that means stuff that depends on me?
00:28 <z-man> The management module then talks to murmur and sets it up accordingly.
00:28 <luke-jr> epsy: you're working on Python support too? :o
00:28 <epsy> on allowing it to be easily done
00:28 <z-man> epsy: you mean eEvent?
00:28 <epsy> as part of the modules branch
00:28 <epsy> trunk-eevent-modules
00:29 <luke-jr> epsy: does that by any chance cover generic triggers?
00:29 <epsy> it's not really in a good-looking form yet, sorry
00:29 <epsy> luke-jr, hooks?
00:29 <luke-jr> hooks?
00:29 <epsy> luke-jr, handled with boost::errrrrrrrrrrrrr
00:29 <epsy> boost::signals
00:30 <luke-jr> no, where a client can bind a key(s) to a trigger, say 'jump'
00:30 <epsy> ah
00:30 <luke-jr> and press that to jump
00:30 <epsy> not yet
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00:30 <epsy> and I don't see it as related to modules
00:30 <luke-jr> or bind it to '+jump' to send '+jump' on keydown and '-jump' on keyup
00:30 <epsy> yeah, I know :)
00:30 <luke-jr> well, it's slightly related to the API anyhow
00:30 <luke-jr> since plugins will need to define new triggers
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00:31 <epsy> but it's still something that's worth it's own document, isn't it?
00:32 <epsy> don't let me ramble on this topic yet :)
00:32 <epsy> nighty
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00:34 <smoothice> #cfg2 ladderlog_write_round_score
00:34 <@armabot> smoothice: LADDERLOG_WRITE_ROUND_SCORE: Write to ladderlog: ROUND_SCORE [](Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_ROUND_SCORE_TEAM: Write to ladderlog: ROUND_SCORE_TEAM (Default: 1 )
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00:37 <smoothice> Zurd: any luck?
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00:38 <smoothice> z-man: Do you have chronic Internet issues or something? :P
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00:39 <luke-jr> …
00:39 <z-man> humm, beats me.
00:39 <smoothice> z-man left the chat room. (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer))
00:39 <smoothice> z-manuel joined the chat room.
00:39 <smoothice> zmanuel joined the chat room.
00:39 <smoothice> lots of that lol
00:39 <Zurd> smoothice not yet
00:39 <smoothice> zurd: k
00:40 <z-man> I only have one reconnect here.
00:40 <z-man> and my ssh connection to my server was stable.
00:40 <z-man> Must have been my freenode host.
00:41 <smoothice> yeah
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00:41 <smoothice> #dict chronic
00:41 <Zurd> what ssh clients do you guys use??
00:41 <smoothice> heeee
00:41 <@armabot> smoothice: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: wn: chronic adj 1: being long-lasting and recurrent or characterized by long suffering; "chronic indigestion"; "a chronic shortage of funds"; "a chronic invalid" [ant: {acute}] 2: having a habit of long standing; "a chronic smoker" [syn: {confirmed}, {habitual}, {inveterate(a)}]; gcide: Chronic \Chron"ic\, a. [L. chronicus, Gr. ? concerning (4 more messages)
00:42 <PinkTomato> Zurd: the standard one
00:42 <smoothice> PinkTomato: zurd uses windows
00:42 <smoothice> luke-jr: why is the hostname for your VPSes "reserved"?
00:43 <luke-jr> smoothice: wtf?
00:43 <smoothice> 12  reserved (*censored*)  72.748 ms  72.000 ms  72.638 ms
00:43 <smoothice> on traceroute
00:43 <luke-jr> no idea ☺
00:43 <smoothice> ...
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00:43 <luke-jr> smoothice: is it a problem?
00:43 <smoothice> yeah
00:43 <smoothice> it's annoying
00:43 <smoothice> lol
00:43 <luke-jr> and fwiw, that's not a hostname
00:43 <PinkTomato> what's the IP of a luke-jr vps then?
00:43 <luke-jr> it's RDNS
00:44 <smoothice> ok
00:44 <smoothice> umm
00:44 <smoothice> *censored* = Why would I tell you
00:44 <smoothice> IPs are private stuff
00:44 <smoothice> or not
00:44 <smoothice> I don't know
00:44 <luke-jr> 66.216.20.12
00:44 <luke-jr> 65.18.193.127
00:44 <PinkTomato> smoothice: are you going to host it as an armagetronad server?
00:44 <smoothice> PinkTomato: I'm not a luke-jr customer
00:45 <Zurd> no ssh client is working for me luke.
00:45 <smoothice> luke-jr:
00:46 <smoothice> VoiceOver is the remarkable new feature that gives iPod shuffle a voice.* It tells you what song is playing and who's performing it. It can even tell you the names of your playlists.
00:46 <PinkTomato> smoothice: oh right
00:46 <Zurd> >>
00:46 <smoothice> PinkTomato: probably never will be unless he lowers his prices for good
00:46 <smoothice> PinkTomato: how's the DD racing server?
00:46 <luke-jr> Zurd: what SSH client did you try?
00:47 <smoothice> PinkTomato: I think I'll go play there right now :D
00:47 <luke-jr> smoothice: you missed that promo for some reason
00:47 <Zurd> i have tried putty, filezilla, openssh
00:47 <PinkTomato> smoothice: DD racing is not so good
00:47 <luke-jr> I'd like to know wtf Filezilla has to do with SSH
00:47 <luke-jr> Zurd: so what's the problem? I know openssh works..
00:47 <Zurd> it has an ssh option...
00:47 <smoothice> PinkTomato: Why?
00:47 <smoothice> luke-jr: he means SFTP
00:48 <PinkTomato> smoothice: $tronners too kmy traffic :)
00:48 <smoothice> luke-jr: which obviously works over ssh
00:48 <smoothice> PinkTomato: oh haha
00:48 <PinkTomato> and for the last 4 days, it was using 100% CPU
00:48 <smoothice> DD racing?
00:48 <PinkTomato> ye
00:48  * luke-jr just logged in to Zurd's VPS via SSH
00:48 <smoothice> :O
00:48 <Zurd> luke-jr, openssh installed on my computer, then i couldnt locate it anywhere
00:48 <luke-jr> Zurd: so you tried it how exactly? :o
00:48 <PinkTomato> smoothice: fixed now though
00:49 <luke-jr> Zurd: open a command prompt and type
00:49 <luke-jr> ssh root@66.216.20.12
00:49 <Zurd> i say the folder, then in the folder was nothing.
00:49 <smoothice> PinkTomato: did cheapVPS kick your ass?
00:49 <smoothice> PinkTomato: :P
00:50 <luke-jr> smoothice: cheapVPS kicks people?
00:50 <luke-jr> cheapVPS isn't so cheap. ;p
00:50 <smoothice> ...
00:50 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: It was 6 months ago :)
00:50 <smoothice> ...
00:50 <PinkTomato> wait, it's march now
00:50 <smoothice> ...
00:50 <smoothice> wow
00:50 <Zurd> luke-jr, did nothing once command executed
00:50 <PinkTomato> It feels like January.
00:51 <luke-jr> Zurd: what?
00:51 <PinkTomato> smoothice: no notice from them :).
00:51 <joda_bot> luke-jr: he might just have gotten the same prompt as @home ?
00:51 <joda_bot> luke-jr: after being logged in without password request ?
00:52 <smoothice> PinkTomato: lol!
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00:53 <luke-jr> joda_bot: nope, I'm the only one logged in still
00:53 <joda_bot> k
00:54 <Zurd> luke-jr, "The authenticity of host '66.216.20.12 <66.216.20.12>' can't be established. RSA key fingerprint is 27:98:64:53:91:46:54:ec:41:3f:81:24:00:79:ca."
00:54 <Zurd> "do you wish to continue <yes/no>"
00:54 <Zurd> "yes"
00:54 <smoothice> yes
00:54 <joda_bot> yes
00:55 <luke-jr> YES
00:55 <smoothice> YES!!!
00:55 <joda_bot> #echo yes
00:55 <Zurd> "warning permenatly added "ip"
00:55 <Zurd> >.<
00:55 <smoothice> @echo YES!
00:55 <teabot> YES!
00:55 <@armabot> yes
00:55 <luke-jr> ]echo YEEESSSSSSSS
00:55 <ljrbot> YEEESSSSSSSS
00:55 <Zurd> ok....
00:55 <Zurd> o.o
00:55 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: was that you?
00:55 <smoothice> ..
00:55 <luke-jr> Zurd: and the problem is?
00:56 <Zurd> "connection closed by "ip"
00:56 <luke-jr> ……..
00:56 <Zurd> IDK!!!!!!
00:56 <luke-jr> Zurd: that's all?
00:56 <Zurd> WTF
00:56 <smoothice> ?
00:56 <luke-jr> Zurd: install http://tightvnc.com
00:56 <PinkTomato> Those errors annoy me too much.
00:56 <smoothice> YOur VPSes have VNC?
00:57 <PinkTomato> smoothice: other way round
00:57 <luke-jr> smoothice: no, I have VNC to look at wtf he's doing wrong -.-
00:57 <smoothice> that's privacy violation luke
00:57 <luke-jr> uh, no it isn't
00:57 <smoothice> what a creeper! :D
00:57 <luke-jr> it's customer assistance
00:57 <PinkTomato> smoothice: if Zurd OK's it, no problem
00:58 <Zurd> ...wtf is it....
00:58 <smoothice> now zurd has to port forward
00:58 <luke-jr> smoothice: no he doesn't
00:58 <smoothice> Yes he does
00:58 <PinkTomato> no,
00:58 <luke-jr> Zurd: like remote desktop
00:58 <PinkTomato> Zurd: connects to luke-jr port forwarded machine
00:58 <PinkTomato> connection established, all is well.
00:58 <Zurd> yeah, so he can view my comp, i know
00:59 <smoothice> luke-jr: yes he does
00:59 <luke-jr> smoothice: nope
00:59 <PinkTomato> smoothice: read above ^^
00:59 <Zurd> the problem is, he'll always have access
00:59 <PinkTomato> :)
00:59 <luke-jr> Zurd: nope
00:59 <PinkTomato> Zurd: only while VNC is runnin
00:59 <luke-jr> Zurd: you just boot me when you're done
00:59 <Zurd> kk
00:59 <smoothice> since when does VNC utilize dynamic routing?
00:59 <luke-jr> smoothice: stfu and watch
01:00 <Zurd> xD
01:00 <PinkTomato> smoothice: Listening Client
01:00 <luke-jr> Zurd: after you install, right click the system tray icon and select Add New Client
01:00 <luke-jr> Zurd: type in: nat.router.dashjr.org
01:00 <smoothice> PinkTomato: oh yeah
01:00 <smoothice> PinkTomato: right...
01:00 <smoothice> PinkTomato: lol
01:00 <PinkTomato> ;)
01:02 <luke-jr> hey, Zurd's VPS got 13 packets
01:02 <smoothice> cool?
01:02 <luke-jr> dunno, I'm just bored
01:02 <luke-jr> ping it a few times to make it go up
01:03 <smoothice> how about 1mb packet pings
01:03 <smoothice> :P
01:03 <smoothice> don't fret!
01:03 <smoothice> I won't~
01:03 <smoothice> lol
01:03 <Zurd> "failed to connect to server (nat.router.dashjr.org)"
01:03 <luke-jr> smoothice: 1 MB is too big for a packet across the internet
01:03 <luke-jr> Zurd: ………
01:03 <smoothice> luke-jr: oh lol
01:03 <Zurd> O.O
01:04 <luke-jr> Zurd: do you have some kind of evil draconian firewall?
01:04 <Zurd> you guys making a fool outa me??
01:04 <smoothice> luke-jr is :P
01:04 <luke-jr> heck, how are you on IRC? :/
01:04 <smoothice> mibbit
01:04 <luke-jr> is he really? :x
01:04 <smoothice> ..
01:04 <luke-jr> crap
01:04 <luke-jr> that might be it then
01:04 <smoothice> ...
01:04 <Zurd> hang on.
01:04 <smoothice> Zurd: don't let luke-jr get to your mind
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01:04 <luke-jr> Zurd: I think your firewall is blocking it
01:05 <smoothice> I use MAC
01:05 <smoothice> no firewalls needed
01:05 <smoothice> :D
01:05 <luke-jr> MAC != Mac
01:05 <luke-jr> idiot
01:05 <smoothice> no
01:05 <smoothice> I mean't MAC
01:05  * luke-jr ponders writing a working zZone in one night to make a fool of smoothice ;)
01:05 <smoothice> phsycial address
01:05 <smoothice> luke-jr: dammit
01:06  * smoothice ponders spreading word that luke'jr's service is crap
01:06 <luke-jr> smoothice: that'd be slander
01:06 <luke-jr> and illegal :o
01:06 <smoothice> luke-jr: ?
01:06 <smoothice> luke-jr: how is that illegal
01:06 <smoothice> luke-jr: freedom of speech my friend
01:06 <luke-jr> slander is illegal
01:06 <luke-jr> freedom of speech doesn't exist
01:06 <smoothice> first amendment rights -.-
01:06 <luke-jr> welcome to the real world
01:06 <luke-jr> the Consitution and its amendments are just paper
01:06  * Zurd is still waiting for the security center to pop us...
01:06 <smoothice> Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
01:07 <sinewave> Freedom of speech implies you can say things about the gov, not your neighbors.
01:07 <smoothice> ?
01:07 <luke-jr> smoothice: Congress maybe not, that's why they do it in other parts of the govt
01:07 <smoothice> ...
01:07 <luke-jr> and sinewave's point is good too
01:07 <smoothice> this is a stupid conservation
01:07 <luke-jr> smoothice: test it
01:07 <smoothice> no
01:07 <luke-jr> smoothice: go see a movie and yell FIRE in the middle
01:08 <luke-jr> (without a fire ofc)
01:08 <smoothice> that'd be disorderly conduct
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01:08 <luke-jr> freedom of speech ;)
01:08 <sinewave> hi lack
01:08 <smoothice> yes
01:08 <smoothice> but
01:08 <smoothice> choosing to say I don't like your service
01:08 <smoothice> Isn't disorderly conduct
01:08 <luke-jr> smoothice: that's not what you said though
01:08 <smoothice> ?
01:08 <luke-jr> you made an objective statement claiming it was crap
01:08 <luke-jr> which is not true
01:09 <luke-jr> nor have you ever even tried it
01:09 <smoothice> ok
01:09 <smoothice> I disagree with my statement
01:09 <luke-jr> …
01:09 <smoothice> my fault
01:09 <smoothice> I'm stupid
01:09 <luke-jr> way to make a brainfsck
01:09 <smoothice> ?
01:09 <cpayan> Yell "fire" when there's an explosion on screen and you can probably get some people to run
01:09 <luke-jr> #quote add "[19:09:13] <smoothice> I disagree with my statement"
01:09 <cpayan> :)
01:09 <Zurd> im starting to get pissed off...
01:09 <@armabot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.  Quote #91 added.
01:09 <Zurd> do i need to go into my router?
01:10 <luke-jr> Zurd: can't hurt
01:10 <Zurd> that'll be fun...its defaulted to spanish...or freanch
01:10 <luke-jr> wtf
01:11 <smoothice> luke-jr: go ahead... call me stupid
01:11 <luke-jr> smoothice: ?
01:11 <cpayan> Do you have a Willy Wonka style miniaturization machine?
01:11 <Zurd> what is the default ip for router?
01:11  * smoothice apologizes to luke-jr
01:11 <smoothice> zurd: 192.168.1.1
01:11 <luke-jr> OMG THAT IS A SWEET IDEA
01:11 <smoothice> ...
01:12 <Zurd> ty
01:12 <luke-jr> a zone that shrinks your cycle and walls and speed
01:12 <smoothice> luke-jr: what else am I to do?
01:12 <smoothice> luke-jr: suffer under your supreme rein?
01:12 <smoothice> luke-jr: lol
01:12 <luke-jr> smoothice: wtf are you talking about?
01:12 <smoothice> luke-jr: me spreading false rumor
01:13 <luke-jr> smoothice: or you could just get a VPS next time I have a special (or before, I don't mind ☺ and experience the awesomeness for yourself XD
01:14  * luke-jr assigns cycle shrinkage to cpayan
01:14 <smoothice> luke-jr: you actually want me to switch vps providers?
01:15 <luke-jr> smoothice: eh, I wouldn't mind one bit
01:15 <luke-jr> nmap sez Zurd's IP doesn't exist :x
01:15 <smoothice> luke-jr: figured
01:15 <smoothice> justp ing it?
01:15 <luke-jr> no ping either
01:15 <smoothice> traceroute?
01:15 <luke-jr> it's like a black hole
01:16 <luke-jr> 12:  ge3-0-0-dhspca1-10k1.dc.rr.com (66.74.97.165)         69.210ms asymm 11
01:16 <luke-jr> that's the last tracepath hop
01:17 <luke-jr> what's odd is, since he got the SSH key hash, he should be able to get in…
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01:17 <luke-jr> hey, that's an idea
01:17 <luke-jr> Zurd: can you traceroute to the VPS?
01:17 <smoothice> ?
01:18 <luke-jr> and paste it on http://rafb.net/paste
01:19 <Zurd> i need to get this crap translated, its pissing me off
01:19 <smoothice> luke-jr: if you do a make install into a directory that you previously installed into, does that upgrade the binary?
01:19 <luke-jr> smoothice: the binary, yes
01:20 <luke-jr> smoothice: but there's a reason we have 'make uninstall'
01:20 <luke-jr> ☺
01:22 <Zurd> thank god...i fixed it...:D
01:22 <luke-jr> Zurd: yay
01:23 <Zurd> tracerouting nat.router.dashjr.org
01:23 <Zurd> traceroute: unknown host nat.router.dashjr.org
01:23 <luke-jr> wtf O.o
01:24 <Zurd> O.O
01:24 <luke-jr> Zurd: your DNS is broken -.-
01:24 <Zurd> maybe its not me :o
01:24 <luke-jr> 70.187.26.118
01:24 <Zurd> 1 traceroute to 70.187.26.118 (70.187.26.118) ,30 hops max,40 byte packet 2 10.53.128.1 (10.53.128.1) 10. 0 ms 10. 0 ms 0. 0 ms 3 66.74.97.166 (66.74.97.166) 0. 0 ms 0. 0 ms 0. 0 ms
01:24 <Zurd> :O
01:25 <luke-jr> wtf?
01:25 <luke-jr> Zurd: try with VNC
01:25 <Zurd> kk
01:25 <Zurd> connection fail
01:26 <Zurd> "1 traceroute to 70.187.26.118 (70.187.26.118) ,30 hops max,40 byte packet 2 10.53.128.1 (10.53.128.1) 10. 0 ms 10. 0 ms 0. 0 ms 3 66.74.97.166 (66.74.97.166) 0. 0 ms 0. 0 ms 0. 0 ms 4 66.74.96.13 (66.74.96.13) 0. 0 ms 10. 0 ms 0. 0 ms 5 * * * * 6 * * * * 7 * * * * 8 66.109.6.64 (66.109.6.64) 10. 0 ms 10. 0 ms 10. 0 ms 9 66.109.6.131 (66.109.6.131) 10. 0 ms 10. 0 ms 10. 0 ms 10 66.109.9.114 (66.109.9.114) 10. 0 ms 20. 0 m
01:26 <luke-jr> can you forward port 5900 and set a password on the VNC?
01:28 <Zurd> port range ip?
01:28 <luke-jr> ⁇?
01:28 <Zurd> nvm
01:29 <Zurd> what protical?
01:29 <luke-jr> TCP
01:30 <Zurd> end?
01:30 <Zurd> start 5900? end 5900?
01:31 <Zurd> what the command to flush my dns?
01:32 <luke-jr> ipconfig /flushdns ?
01:32 <luke-jr> maybe
01:32 <Zurd> yeah thats it
01:33 <Zurd> there is no connecting to ya...
01:34 <luke-jr> :/
01:34 <luke-jr> you forwarded the port?
01:36 <Zurd> ok...i need a friggin walk through, i dont think im doing this right, although i do..
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02:14 <luke-jr> I think zurd has at least one virus :x
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02:21 <cpayan> luke-jr, had to wait until he left to say that?
02:21 <luke-jr> well, he left as I was typign it XD
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03:01 <cpayan> anyone care to tell me what the message for my away thing was?
03:02 <cpayan> nah never mind
03:02 <madmax> x_X
03:02 <cpayan> well actually, do it, madmax
03:03  * cpayan is a bit of a will o' the wisp
03:03 <luke-jr> ?
03:03 <madmax> I didn't see any away message (thankfully)
03:03 <luke-jr> cpayan: what away thing?
03:03 <cpayan> no away thing
03:03 <cpayan> i guess
03:03 <cpayan> :)
03:04 <cpayan> I wonder what that's about
03:04 <luke-jr> /away only affects /whois, if people PM you, and for some clients the user list
03:04 <luke-jr> for example, my client greys names on the userlist who are away
03:05 <luke-jr> which is most definitely how it should be
03:05 <luke-jr> ☺
03:08  * madmax is away
03:08  * madmax is back
03:08  * madmax is away again
03:09  * luke-jr stabs madmax in the face
03:09 <madmax> hah, no one invented that yet
03:09 <luke-jr> did so! :<
03:10 <smoothice> hi luke-jr
03:10 <madmax> so you mean that guy on bash is rich now?
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03:10 <smoothice> luke-jr: for your vps service
03:10 <smoothice> luke-jr: Do you have a control panel?
03:14 <cpayan> luke-jr, ah, ok thanks
03:24 <Lucifer> #m Lackadaisical you
03:24 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
03:24 <Lucifer> hmmmm
03:24 <Lucifer> freeciv?
03:25 <smoothice> nah
03:30 <luke-jr> Lucifer: maybe
03:31 <luke-jr> actually, sure
03:31 <luke-jr> my bro in law isn't coming over this weekend
03:31 <luke-jr> he pissed everyone off last weekend :p
03:31 <Lucifer> heh
03:31 <Lucifer> anyone else?
03:32 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9149 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. language/english_base.txt src/engine/ePlayer.cpp): Luke Dashjr: merge sty-help-compat
03:34 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9150 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (9 files in 5 dirs): Luke Dashjr: merge fortress-respawn
03:35 <luke-jr> Lucifer: we playing?
03:35 <Lucifer> sure, I wanted to see if anyone else wanted to play before we got started
03:36 <luke-jr> Lucifer: u started w/o me?
03:36 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r894 merge fortress-respawn || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r893 merge sty-help-compat
03:36 <luke-jr> Lucifer: btw, you never sent me that saved game..
03:36 <Lucifer> well, I started a game to play while waiting to see if anybody wants to play :)
03:36 <luke-jr> XD
03:37 <luke-jr> fine, I do that too :p
03:37 <Lucifer> you can join that game if you want, I only just started it :)
03:37 <Lucifer> or I can kill it and we can start a new game
03:37 <luke-jr> ok
03:37 <luke-jr> I'll take over Texas
03:37 <Lucifer> do you want to play a particular map, or go with random?
03:37 <Lucifer> heh, I'm texas ;)
03:37 <luke-jr> I don't care
03:37 <luke-jr> let's start new
03:37 <luke-jr> this is turn 12 :x
03:39 <luke-jr> …
03:47 <Lucifer> anybody else want to play?
03:47 <Lucifer> I keep forgetting to send that save game, sorry :(
03:48 <luke-jr> [21:47:57] <abs> wowi just opened up the enclosure and the SATA power cables are soldered into the board
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04:08 <Lucifer> Vanhayes: freeciv?  ;)
04:09 <tramshed> hovaround
04:09 <smoothice> #zthread
04:09 <smoothice> #alias search zthread
04:09 <smoothice> wtf
04:09 <smoothice> How do I install zThread?
04:10 <smoothice> #alias list
04:10 <smoothice> #list Alias
04:10 <@armabot> smoothice: monologue, r, roulette, #lags, #noob, /me, 42, aawiki, action, add, afl, aka, armaconfig, armapwnage, armaservers, armasettings, arrow, as, away, babel, ball, bigbrother, bigos, bing, botsnack, bounce, brb, bug, bugs, bye, bzr, bzrarmasty, c, cafe, calc, cat, cfg, cfg2, chainfight, chatlog, check, cheers, cinf, cink, commands, cookie, crashme, crazylate, ctos, ctwf, dance, date, (5 more messages)
04:10 <Vanhayes> Lucifer: maybe in a little bit, who all is playing?
04:10 <smoothice> #more
04:10 <@armabot> smoothice: davestupidwebsite"rss, ddl, del, devhelp, dicht, die, die, digg, digitx, ding, disclaimer, dns, do, dofinger, dog, dong, donkey, doping, dorka, eds, eliza, emmy, epicfail, eroulette, f, fail, fart, farton, fastfood, fetch2, fight, finc, fingers, fink, flashyy, flerxytyme, flirt, fofo, forest, fortune, forums, freeciv, fuck!, g, gcalc, gfight, go, godtodd, going, goodbye, goodnight, (4 more messages)
04:10 <Lucifer> me and luke
04:10 <smoothice> #More
04:10 <@armabot> smoothice: grep, grep2, hd, hack, hell, hello, hey, hoop, hungary, hyphy, impregnate, insight, ircstats, jesus, joke, kill, killsomeone, kinc, kinf, king, kyle, kyo, laddle10, lags, lastseen, lastseenf, lastseen flexsmum, legit, lies, llog, lock, log, log, logs, lp, lpbug, ls, lukejrworks, m, mail, makeop, man, mcalc, meow!, mfaq, ming, monologue, morning, move, mrbougo, murder, myip, n00b, n9, (3 more messages)
04:10 <smoothice> #more
04:10 <@armabot> smoothice: nano, nerd, new, night, no, noob, null, nwctfs, nwers, nwfortress, obsolete, onlineplayers, onlineservers, pacman, path, path2, peek, phail, phlail, pingme, pingy, piong, plzpwn, poing, pong, praise, ptfort, pwn, q, quot, quote, r, raaaaaaape, randomnick, rape, rating, rating2, rating2test, real, realchatlogs, remove, removeop, res, resources, ring, rou, roulette, roulette, roulete, (2 more messages)
04:10 <smoothice> #more
04:10 <@armabot> smoothice: roulotte, roulï½…tte, rules, r‭oulette, say, sd, sd v spacelab, send, serv, serverdetails, serverinfo, servers, serverscores, shun, si, sillybot, sing, skank, slap, sleep10, sleep5, smoke, snap, spam, speed, spork, ss, stalk, stfu, stone, stop, sty, sumo, svn, t, tea, team, teamorder, test, test1, test123, testing, tg, thank, the, thecord, thing, toast, tooth, trunkbuilds, tst4, tst5, (1 more message)
04:10 <smoothice> #More
04:11 <@armabot> smoothice: tstservers, twg3random, ty, ubuntu, uname, unlock, ur, vanhayes, w, wanna, wannafight?, wc, weather, whatistheactivityofthischannel?, where, where are the noobs ?, whoami, whoareyou, whoisp4, wikipedia, wikipediamonkey, wild, wing, wisdom, wp, wrtlprnft, wut, ww, x, xd, yay, ying, youareanerd, youfail, ys, zomg, zomb, zomg, and ‭
04:11 <Vanhayes> Lucifer: ya ill play did you guys already start?
04:11 <Vanhayes> #vanhayes
04:11 <@armabot> eh? eh? eh? eh? eh? eh? EH?!?!?!!!!!!1111ONEONE
04:11 <Lucifer> yeah, we did
04:11 <Lucifer> www.davefancella.com port 5556 iirc
04:11 <smoothice> luke-jr: how do I install zThread
04:11 <Vanhayes> ah ok, ill join in in a bit
04:12 <smoothice> #myip
04:12 <@armabot> smoothice: 83.243.117.49
04:12 <Vanhayes> #myip
04:12 <@armabot> Vanhayes: 83.243.117.49
04:13 <Vanhayes> guess thats armabots ip
04:13 <smoothice> yep
04:13 <Vanhayes> hmm
04:13 <Vanhayes> #g 429/2
04:13 <@armabot> Vanhayes: 429 / 2 = 214.5
04:14 <Vanhayes> #g 214.5/40
04:14 <@armabot> Vanhayes: 214.5 / 40 = 5.3625
04:14 <Vanhayes> hmm id complain about that being so very small but its free money
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04:33 <smoothice> Hello Pathetique, Concord
04:33 <smoothice> Concord: when is ladle 20 again?
04:33 <Pathetique> \o Smoothice
04:33 <Concord> 5 april
04:33 <Pathetique> You wouldn't happen to speak German, now, would you?
04:33 <smoothice> Yep
04:33 <Pathetique> lawl
04:34 <smoothice> #t en de Hello
04:34 <@armabot> smoothice: Error: Babelfish has foiled our plans by changing its webpage format.
04:34 <smoothice> ...
04:34 <Pathetique> LOL
04:34 <Pathetique> btw
04:34 <smoothice> ?
04:34 <Pathetique> Hello in German/Dutch is Hallo, AFAIK.
04:35 <smoothice> german is dutch?
04:35 <smoothice> no
04:35 <Pathetique> NO
04:35 <smoothice> yea
04:35 <Pathetique> eeps capslock
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04:36 <Pathetique> so uh
04:36 <Pathetique> Do you sp33k g3rm4n?
04:36 <smoothice> bop
04:36 <smoothice> #l33t hello there
04:36 <Pathetique> fail.
04:36 <smoothice> #leet hello there
04:36 <smoothice> #help leet?
04:36 <smoothice> #WTF?
04:36 <@armabot> smoothice: Error: There is no command "leet?".
04:37 <Pathetique> #help smoothiceisanoob
04:37 <@armabot> Pathetique: Error: There is no command "smoothiceisanoob".
04:37 <Pathetique> :P
04:37 <smoothice> #help Pathetique sucks on his crap
04:37 <smoothice> OWND!
04:37 <@armabot> smoothice: Error: There is no command "pathetique sucks on his crap".
04:37 <smoothice> :(
04:37 <smoothice> fail
04:37 <smoothice> ..
04:37 <Pathetique> lolololol
04:38 <smoothice> #zthread
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04:49 <Vanhayes> Lucifer: actually im going to try and get a good nights sleep tonight, no freeciv for me
04:49 <Vanhayes> #night
04:49 <@armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
04:49 <Lucifer> ko
04:49 <Lucifer> 'night
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04:59 <luke-jr> Lucifer: jerk
05:00 <Lucifer> heh
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05:17 <smoothice> luke-jr: hi
05:18 <luke-jr> <.<
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05:22 <SoBeiT> Hey guys, quick question, i know there is a way to get a black bike and yellow tail, but is there a color combo that i can use to get a yellow bike and black tail?
05:22 <luke-jr> SoBeiT: all of that is unsupported bugs
05:23 <luke-jr> realistically, the bike and tail are always the same colour
05:23 <SoBeiT> ... that didn't answer my question.
05:24 <SoBeiT> "realistically" i can see two different bike colors if a color is above 15
05:24 <luke-jr> SoBeiT: that's a bug
05:25 <luke-jr> because the colour can't be above 15 really
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05:26 <SoBeiT> that sucks, i thought the devs did that on purpose.  maybe it should be supported so we can customize our bikes a little more.  thanks anyway luke-jr
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05:29 <luke-jr> …
05:35 <joda_bot> luke-jr: still awake ... what time is it for you ?
05:39 <luke-jr> 11:40 PM
05:44 <smoothice> wewt wewt
05:45 <luke-jr> ?
05:45 <luke-jr> ok look
05:45 <luke-jr> guys
05:45 <luke-jr> stop pinging me if you have nothing to say
05:45 <luke-jr> -.-
05:51 <luke-jr> trollfest in #Jesus if anyone wants to join
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06:01 <joda_bot> sorry, l u k e - j r
06:03 <luke-jr> -.-
06:10 <teabot> xclanaarepo: Added official ladle 18 settings <http://xclan.armagetron.co.uk/resource/revision/epsy46@free.fr-20090205123500-330pn75la79bb3yg> || Added CrAsHeD@durkadurkaland.com/SumoDf-3.aamap.xml <http://xclan.armagetron.co.uk/resource/revision/epsy46@free.fr-20090129025437-w6peb7vq1zqzdkrh> || add GLOBAL_ID to the config <http://xclan.armagetron.co.uk/resource/revision/epsy46@free.fr-20081121211113-duindfsp5epr8ool> || official config <http://xcla
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06:13 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r894 merge fortress-respawn || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r893 merge sty-help-compat || [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r663 merge from 0.2.8-sty (and make conflicted regions more merga... || [armagetronad-v2sty] r889 Scoring now works properly || [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r662 merging with 0.2.8 r1098 || [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] merge from 0.2.8 || [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r662 merge from 
06:13 <@armabot> lpbugs: [341875] Pigsty shots kill players even when they are just spawning and are "invincible". <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/341875> || [341491] armagetronad.real crashed with SIGSEGV - Reset screen resolution <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/341491> || [338969] /commands do not work when hosting a lan game <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/338969> || [337193] Locked teams with only AIs <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/337193>
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07:13 <Lucifer> luke-jr: sorry, now I'm really bored with this game :(
07:15 <luke-jr> Lucifer: me too!
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07:44  * joda_bot wonders what game is boring :-)
07:58 <tramshed> all of tem
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09:55 <teabot> tstnews: akruD & droLegaS win the TST 2009.01 <http://tst.armagetron.co.uk/news/akrud-drolegas-win-the-tst-200901/> || Final challenge board up <http://tst.armagetron.co.uk/news/final-challenge-board-up/> || Registration is now open <http://tst.armagetron.co.uk/news/registration-is-now-open/> || TST 2009.01 <http://tst.armagetron.co.uk/news/tst-200901/> || DurkLord & SageKa win the TST 2008.11 <http://tst.armagetron.co.uk/news/durklord-sageka-win-the
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12:44 <Concord> emmy_arma: would you kindly tell CTxGonzap, that I'm available for his challenge (open sumo is full)
12:45 <emmy_arma> ok
12:45 <Concord> thanx
12:46 <emmy_arma> catfight is down
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12:50 <Concord> ah ok
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13:03 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/VOV/race/Shield-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by VOV
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14:06 <epsy> mm, how would I go about chaging my mouse sensivity ?
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14:31 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r9151 /armagetronad/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
14:31 <@armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 9143 to 9148:
14:31 <@armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
14:31 <@armabot> armagetronad:  r9146 | bazaarmagetron | 2009-03-12 12:08:13 +0100 (Thu, 12 Mar 2009) | 2 lines
14:31 <@armabot> armagetronad:  Manuel Moos: Fixed sound muting when switching sound settings.
14:31 <@armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
14:31 <@armabot> armagetronad:  r9145 | bazaarmagetron | 2009-03-12 12:07:06 +0100 (Thu, 12 Mar 2009) | 5 lines
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14:34 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9152 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. NEWS): Manuel Moos: Updated for beta3.
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14:54 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r9153 /armagetronad/tags/0.2.8.3_beta3/: Tagged 0.2.8.3_beta3
14:57 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/VOV/race/Insane-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by VOV
15:02 <smoothice> z-manuel: beta3 released today?
15:02 <smoothice> #cfg2 ladderlog_write_round_winner
15:02 <@armabot> smoothice: LADDERLOG_WRITE_ROUND_WINNER: Write to ladderlog: ROUND_WINNER (Default: 1 )
15:03 <z-manuel> looks like it.
15:04 <smoothice> z-manuel: how many betas before release?
15:04 <smoothice> #cfg2 ladderlog_write_round_score
15:04 <@armabot> smoothice: LADDERLOG_WRITE_ROUND_SCORE: Write to ladderlog: ROUND_SCORE [](Default: 1 ) || LADDERLOG_WRITE_ROUND_SCORE_TEAM: Write to ladderlog: ROUND_SCORE_TEAM (Default: 1 )
15:05 <smoothice> #ladderlog_write_death_frag
15:05 <smoothice> #cfg2 ladderlog_write_death_frag
15:05 <@armabot> smoothice: LADDERLOG_WRITE_DEATH_FRAG: Write to ladderlog: DEATH_FRAG (Default: 1 )
15:06 <z-manuel> smoothice: as many as it takes to get rid of the important bugs.
15:06 <z-manuel> all the known ones are none now, so MAYBE this will be the last beta.
15:06 <smoothice> alright
15:06 <smoothice> I'm really eager to use something other as 0.2.8.2.1 as my main client
15:06 <smoothice> than*
15:07 <smoothice> and I think most people are too
15:14 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r895 Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 9143 to 9148:... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1099 Updated for beta3....
15:16 <epsy> were the weird crashes 5on windows ?° fixed?
15:16 <epsy> oh dear
15:16 <epsy> 5 -> (
15:16 <epsy> ° -> )
15:17 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r9154 /armagetronad/trunk/ (. armagetronad/NEWS):
15:17 <@armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 9148 to 9152:
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15:17 <@armabot> armagetronad:  r9152 | bazaarmagetron | 2009-03-14 14:34:20 +0100 (Sat, 14 Mar 2009) | 2 lines
15:17 <@armabot> armagetronad:  Manuel Moos: Updated for beta3.
15:17 <@armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
15:24 <guru3> anyone about?
15:26 <smoothice> guru3: hi
15:34 <guru3> http://forums.armagetronad.net/download.php?id=9958
15:35 <smoothice> guru3: can we try it out?
15:35 <guru3> not really no
15:36 <smoothice> awww
15:36 <smoothice> fine :D
15:36 <guru3> it's only on my desktop
15:36 <smoothice> local server instance?
15:36 <guru3> yes
15:37 <smoothice> ooo k
15:38 <guru3> don't really have the bandwith here
15:38 <guru3> to be hosting it for others to use
15:38 <guru3> http://forums.armagetronad.net/download.php?id=9959
15:39 <smoothice> I mean more like
15:39 <smoothice> upgrading the main server
15:39 <smoothice> for it :D
15:39 <guru3> well i'll consider it
15:39 <smoothice> k
15:40 <guru3> the forums would go offline for quite a while is the thing
15:40 <guru3> so i can't do it with no warning
15:40 <smoothice> yeah
15:42 <guru3> but it hasn't been too bad getting it converted to phpbb3
15:43 <guru3> didn't have to do much from scratch
15:47 <smoothice> guru3: it seems like you wouldn't have to take the forums offline that long since you just you didn't have to do much from scratch
15:48 <guru3> only you know, convert from phpbb2 to phpbb3
15:48 <smoothice> guru3: to make the process easier, you could use lighttpd and set the whole thing up on both of the servers and then just switch the port
15:48 <guru3> which ive only done once
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16:14 <luke-jr> smoothice: uh, wtf?
16:15 <luke-jr> Apache can do that just as well as lighttpd
16:15 <luke-jr> the problem is freezing the DB so people don't post while he converts
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17:24 <smoothice> luke-jr: you could make the DB read-only
17:24 <luke-jr> smoothice: I suppose
17:24 <luke-jr> but I doubt phpBB works with that
17:24 <luke-jr> it needs to modify the db to login or read posts
17:24 <smoothice> to login?
17:24 <smoothice> oh
17:24 <smoothice> last visit..
17:25 <luke-jr> and view count
17:25 <luke-jr> and session list
17:25 <smoothice> ack
17:25 <smoothice> acK!
17:25 <smoothice> lol
17:25 <smoothice> bigger project than Ithought lol
17:26 <luke-jr> besides, even read-only would need prior scheduling
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17:31 <guru3> 3/14 is national pi day
17:31 <guru3> lols
17:32 <luke-jr> no
17:32 <luke-jr> pi day is March 4
17:33 <guru3> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10194354-38.html?tag=nl.e703
17:34 <luke-jr> wow
17:34 <luke-jr> idiots
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17:39 <smoothice> luke-jr: it's 3/14 -.-
17:39 <luke-jr> smoothice: no, it's not
17:39 <luke-jr> pi is 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419………….
17:39 <smoothice> 3/4 ≠ 3.14
17:40 <luke-jr> March 4th is .1415926… into March
17:40 <smoothice> how is it march 4th then
17:40  * wrtlprnft likes π approximation day on july 22 more…
17:40 <smoothice> ...
17:40 <luke-jr> March has 31 days
17:40 <luke-jr> 31 * .1415926535 == 4.3893722585
17:40 <smoothice> 4.3
17:41 <smoothice> well aren't you cool :P
17:41 <wrtlprnft> #g abs(pi - 22/7)/pi
17:41 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
17:41 <wrtlprnft> #g (pi - 22/7)/pi
17:41 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: (pi - (22 / 7)) / pi = -0.000402499435
17:41 <wrtlprnft> #g (pi - 3.14)/pi
17:41 <smoothice> #g 31 * .1415926535
17:41 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: (pi - 3.14) / pi = 0.000506957383
17:41 <@armabot> smoothice: 31 * .1415926535 = 4.38937226
17:42 <wrtlprnft> #g (pi - (3+4/31))/pi
17:42 <smoothice> so folks
17:42 <smoothice> wassup?
17:42 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: (pi - (3 + (4 / 31))) / pi = 0.00399809807
17:42 <wrtlprnft> see? 22/7 is better than all that other crap :-)
17:42 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: 22/7 isn't better than my pi approximation
17:43 <wrtlprnft> 0.00399809807 > 0.000402499435
17:43 <luke-jr> 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419713
17:43 <smoothice> I know 50 digits in my head
17:43 <luke-jr> that's pi as I have it memorized
17:43 <smoothice> beat THAT!
17:43 <wrtlprnft> incoded into a date, of course.
17:43 <wrtlprnft> get a life, guys
17:43 <luke-jr> lol
17:43 <smoothice> ?
17:43 <smoothice> where can I download one of those
17:43 <luke-jr> download what?
17:43 <smoothice> a life
17:44 <luke-jr> o
17:44 <luke-jr> gl
17:44 <wrtlprnft> http://live.com
17:44  * wrtlprnft hides
17:44 <smoothice> ARGGGGGGG
17:44  * smoothice chases wrtlprnft
17:44  * luke-jr goes wrtlprnft hunting
17:44 <smoothice> lol
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17:48  * wrtlprnft can't believe he's forced to download an illegal copy of vc6 to compile an open source project for windows :x
17:48 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: don't do that! :o
17:49 <smoothice> what is vc6?
17:49 <wrtlprnft> visual c
17:49 <wrtlprnft> actually c++
17:49 <smoothice> well
17:49 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: you know you can't distribute the binary? ;)
17:49 <smoothice> you can download the free working model edition
17:49 <smoothice> but you cannot make exes
17:49 <smoothice> which I guess makes it pointless
17:49 <smoothice> lol
17:49 <wrtlprnft> yeah, that's pointless
17:50 <luke-jr> …
17:50 <smoothice> ?
17:50 <wrtlprnft> i can use the free 2008 stuff, but i can't get it to work correctly
17:50 <smoothice> that's .net
17:51 <luke-jr> for Windows binaries, the GPL defines the compiler as part of the build system ;)
17:51 <luke-jr> which means your source code must include the compiler
17:52 <wrtlprnft> well, all the windows binaries of that project are made iwth vc6
17:52 <smoothice> port them to .net?
17:52 <luke-jr> so it's either GPL violation or GPL exception
17:53 <luke-jr> why port to .net?
17:53 <luke-jr> port to MingW
17:53 <wrtlprnft> do i look like a windows a windows dev?
17:53 <smoothice> yes
17:53 <smoothice> lol
17:53 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: you're the one talking about VC6 and Windoze stuff
17:53 <luke-jr> I do all my development on Linux
17:54 <luke-jr> including making EXEs and Windows installers
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17:54 <smoothice> ?
17:54 <smoothice> Wine?
17:54 <luke-jr> smoothice: no
17:54 <luke-jr> I just cross-compile
17:54 <luke-jr> and NSIS has a Linux port
17:55 <luke-jr> though I admit there was one project for work that I had to use VB6 /compile in WINE to build
17:55 <luke-jr> but I rewrote it in C first chance I got
18:10 <epsy> Lackadaisical, these shots are just sketches done in gimp/inkscape right?
18:11 <Lackadaisical> yeah, did them in photoshop
18:11 <epsy> mm heretism
18:11 <Lackadaisical> heh
18:11 <epsy> it4s way simplier than anything I4ve thought of
18:11 <guru3> they look good
18:11 <epsy> yet it looks good
18:11 <epsy> brbb
18:11 <Lackadaisical> thanks
18:12 <guru3> i don't envy whoever wants to build them into themes though
18:12 <guru3> that sort of work is tricky
18:12 <epsy> nah
18:13 <epsy> depends on the software to theme
18:13 <epsy> that's why I hate phpbb so much
18:13 <epsy> brb
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18:14 <epsy> right, that's better
18:14 <guru3> i'm thinking to go ahead and upgrade to phpbb3
18:14 <Lackadaisical> but i just received a msg from luci/armabot that im actually the dedicated webguy that was picked up
18:14 <Lackadaisical> I.. didn't know that?
18:15 <Lackadaisical> can I even do anything with the website?
18:15 <guru3> probably... not
18:15 <epsy> guru3, please, consider bbpress
18:16 <guru3> i'm not being impressed with it
18:16 <epsy> have you tried to theme it?
18:16 <guru3> no
18:16 <guru3> but ive just tried to use it
18:17 <epsy> and?
18:17 <guru3> im not thrilled
18:17 <luke-jr> reminder: I did a little experiment with MediaWiki for the main website a while back
18:18 <epsy> guru3, it's just a forum software heh
18:18 <guru3> and for being a forum software
18:18 <guru3> im not thrilled
18:18 <epsy> even if I tell you mods don't break on upgrades?
18:19 <guru3> the technical benefits are minor
18:19 <guru3> because i'm not spending most of the time maintaining it, i'm spending it using it
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18:19 <epsy> it's adminning functions are rather simple to use
18:20 <luke-jr> epsy: he just said that stuff doesn't matter -.-
18:20 <epsy> well, the other part of "using" it is just reading posts and responding to them
18:21 <guru3> with the reply button all the way at the bottom?
18:21 <guru3> no paging that i could see
18:21 <wrtlprnft> woot!
18:21 <wrtlprnft> no paging!
18:21 <wrtlprnft> gogogo!
18:21 <guru3> no place for the quote/edit button
18:22 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/BigTronDaddy/Race/aMazed-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by BigTronDaddy
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18:27 <epsy> it has paging
18:27 <epsy> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/wordpress-and-bbpress-integration-101
18:28 <epsy> there's an edit function afaik, and it can be limited on a certain amount of time
18:28 <epsy> for the quote button, either you should be logged in, either it's probably available as a plugin
18:30 <epsy> oh, and on top of that, there's an antispam plguin :)
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18:49 <luke-jr> what's wrong with phpBB3 anyhow?
18:50 <zmanuel> The default answer to all your 'what's wrong' questions: it would be work.
18:50 <epsy> and it is :/
18:51 <epsy> what will we do when we get up to GID-based authentication?
18:52 <luke-jr> zmanuel: afaik, guru3's ready to do phpBB3 and epsy interjected some bbpress thing that apparently sucks and I've never heard of ☺
18:53 <epsy> well, it's gonna suck when we HAVE to mod it
18:53 <guru3> ive more or less worked out how to do the phpbb3 conversion
18:53 <luke-jr> epsy: we don't have to mod it
18:53 <guru3> Lackadaisical: what was the font you used for the normal text on that mockup?
18:54 <epsy> luke-jr, because GID-based authentication works right out of the box with pbpbb3, and because it's supereasy to theme while keeping content separated from form
18:55 <luke-jr> epsy: phpbb3 is afaik designed to support external auth
18:55 <luke-jr> (if not, phpbb authors are idiots)
18:55 <epsy> have fun
19:09 <wrtlprnft> woot
19:09 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: got around any vc
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19:10 <wrtlprnft> i only needed to compile a dll (as a plugin), and since i didn't manage to compile the entire project with any vc i just used codeblocks to make a new project for the dll
19:10 <wrtlprnft> quite hacky (in fact really hacky, but it works)
19:12 <wrtlprnft> btw, dokan+tortoisesvn+browsing a remote svn repo = really really really slow
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19:18 <luke-jr> vc?
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19:20 <Lackadaisical> guru3: arial
19:20 <Lackadaisical> i was thinking of just putting sans-serif in the css, so that would mean arial on windows
19:20 <guru3> cheers
19:21 <Lackadaisical> i'd prefer helvetica though
19:25 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: vc == visual c :o
19:33 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-fortress_ai] r934 Merge from trunk...
19:36 <cpayan> Lackadaisical, Helvetica's great :)
19:37  * wrtlprnft wouldn't want to read the body text of a web page in helevetica
19:37 <cpayan> Why not just use font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; and be done
19:38  * wrtlprnft is still looking for the just-kill-heveletica-arial-and-friends-and-just-use-the-sans-serif-font-i-configured setting
19:40 <wrtlprnft> maybe i should look into ways to make opera believe those fonts don't exist on my system. that would solve a lot.
19:40 <Lackadaisical> there's no setting for that in opera? i think you can set it in firefox
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19:41 <wrtlprnft> Lackadaisical: you can say what you want sans-serif to map to
19:41 <wrtlprnft> but i haven't seen a font blacklist yet.
19:42 <cpayan> you could just get rid of the fonts.
19:42 <luke-jr> cpayan: why not just font-family:sans-serif; ?
19:43 <wrtlprnft> well, sometimes i may want them. mostly for openoffice, when i either have to make documents that are going to be used on machines whose fontsets i don't control or to reduce alignment errors for badly written documents that use those fonts
19:43  * wrtlprnft agrees with luke-jr 
19:43 <cpayan> If I'm designing, I'd rather see the fonts I choose show up. Things can look wonky otherwise.
19:44 <luke-jr> cpayan: if things look wonky, you're doing it wrong
19:44 <wrtlprnft> well, for body text the exact font shouldn't matter for webdesign purposes, so just give the user control over it
19:45 <luke-jr> if you do it right, it shouldn't matter what exact font I'm using, how big my browser is, or if I'm using a braille display or screen reader
19:45 <cpayan> Also, at the end of the day, the vast majority of users take no part in font-selection, so why leave it to a generally apathetic group
19:45 <cpayan> luke-jr, that is aside from a discussion of fonts
19:45 <wrtlprnft> let's just say the default settings of most browsers disagree with most designers' imaginations
19:45 <luke-jr> cpayan: no it isn't
19:45 <wrtlprnft> too big, too boring, not special enough :-(
19:45 <cpayan> Yes. It is. Completely
19:46 <cpayan> Using CSS for fonts doesn't affect usability one whit.
19:46 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: user.css should be able to replace Arial with sans-serif;
19:46 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: how?
19:46 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: @font-*?
19:47 <epsy> luke-jr, lol?!
19:47 <cpayan> wrtlprnft, let's say default settings on most browsers change from browser to browser, then there's no problem, in my mind, in trying to make a consistent site across platforms and browsers
19:47 <epsy> I mean, it's a nice thing..but..no browser supports it
19:47 <wrtlprnft> hmm, that might indeed be interesting, redefining the arial @font-face
19:47 <luke-jr> epsy: I work in theory, not in practice
19:48 <luke-jr> cpayan: that is where you fail
19:48 <epsy> ah
19:48 <wrtlprnft> cpayan: web sites aren't supposed to look pixel-identical on any two computers
19:48 <luke-jr> cpayan: a site should fit in with the user's computer, not with the designer's computer
19:48 <epsy> y the way, if you want to render custom fonts: http://typeface.neocracy.org/
19:49 <cpayan> That's right, but you're both taking it to a ridiculous ideal
19:49 <luke-jr> cpayan: I'm an idealist, get used to it.
19:49 <cpayan> luke-jr, I'm not, get used to it :)
19:50 <cpayan> Also, get used to idealism having very little place in the world :)
19:51 <wrtlprnft> i don't think it's idealistic if i don't want to see a different crappy aeons-old font on every website but rather the font i'm used to (and can therefore read best)
19:53 <cpayan> Aeons-old fonts are aeons old because they're good, readable fonts. Are you really so attached to your chosen font that using a different still-decent font is that deplorable to you? Actually, drop that, it's a two-way argument, obviously.
19:53 <cpayan> Just seems like a waste of time to me to fix something that isn't broken in the least.
19:54 <wrtlprnft> well, arial isn't really all that good, it's just been bundled with windows for a long time
19:55 <luke-jr> Arial is non-Free
19:55 <dlh> and it is a rip-off of helvetica :)
19:55 <wrtlprnft> yep
19:57 <ivantis> hey luke-jr
19:57 <luke-jr> -.-
19:57 <luke-jr> what ivantis
19:57 <ivantis> you live in omaha right?
19:58 <luke-jr> yes
19:58 <ivantis> i spent the night there
19:58 <luke-jr> …
19:58 <ivantis> i went to the air and space museum thing
19:58 <luke-jr> o
19:58 <ivantis> have you ever been there?
19:58 <luke-jr> you drove 4 hours each way to spend a few hours here?
19:58 <luke-jr> what a waste of time
19:58 <guru3> http://guru3.net/temp/lack3/ boredom is evil
19:59 <ivantis> but i got to sleep inside the museum!
19:59 <luke-jr> guru3: eh, nice, but I have to scroll down to see the first reply?
19:59 <luke-jr> ivantis: still
19:59 <guru3> all i did was take the png and make it html
19:59 <ivantis> yeah the car ride was booring
19:59 <luke-jr> you probably spent more time on the road than awake in Omaha
20:00 <luke-jr> guru3: too much void space IMO
20:00 <ivantis> well, we left at 3:00
20:00 <guru3> luke-jr: tell lack
20:00 <guru3> it's his design
20:00 <wrtlprnft> guru3: eww, fixed width :(
20:00 <ivantis> went to bed at 0:00
20:00 <guru3> yeah that i didn't feel like working around
20:00 <ivantis> and woke up at 7:00
20:00 <ivantis> and left at 8:00
20:00 <luke-jr> ivantis: that makes no sense, it's not even 3:00 yet
20:00 <ivantis> no yesterday
20:01 <ivantis> i mean 15:00
20:01 <luke-jr> whatever
20:01 <wrtlprnft> guru3: at least the design itself is capable of dynamic width
20:01 <guru3> yeah
20:01 <ivantis> but it was cool. that museum is cool
20:01 <guru3> i would have basically just needed to fiddle with the header
20:01 <guru3> didn't feel like it
20:01 <wrtlprnft> well, it's just a test, so it's ok
20:01 <ivantis> guess what else?
20:01 <luke-jr> where's the png?
20:02 <guru3> the modest proposal thread
20:02 <wrtlprnft> i'm just saying that for the final version it would be next to mandatory
20:02 <ivantis> i wrote something for a commercial site
20:02 <ivantis> http://keywordvideogenerator.com/
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20:03 <guru3> turning pictures into html is such a fun chalenge
20:03 <guru3> *challenge
20:04 <luke-jr> it wouldn't be so bad if the top menu stuff went across the page fully
20:04 <luke-jr> eg, FAQ, View posts since…, Search, Profile on one line
20:04 <luke-jr> or however many fit
20:04 <guru3> turn it into 4x2 instead of 2x4
20:04 <guru3> that'd just fit
20:04 <luke-jr> no, make it dynamic like it should be
20:04 <wrtlprnft> or dynamic :-)
20:05 <guru3> i don't think you can make tables dynamic like that
20:05 <luke-jr> haven't looked at the HTML, but that *should be* a <ul><li>…</ul>
20:05 <guru3> nope, i went the poorman easy way
20:05 <luke-jr> guru3: it shouldn't be a table
20:05 <wrtlprnft> guru3: well, you can just make them wrap
20:05 <luke-jr> that's table abuse
20:05 <wrtlprnft> it won't be a rectangle, but i guess that's fine for this purpose
20:06 <wrtlprnft> if you feel really fancy you can add an optional javascript that looks at how much fits into a row and then sets the line breaks accordingly
20:06 <guru3> well as it's html, it's open source ;)
20:07 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: one thing, though: you can't really argue with screenreaders for a website exclusively related to a visual game
20:07 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: what if I want to use the forums from my rotary phone⁈
20:08 <wrtlprnft> don't :-P
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20:10 <luke-jr> hi gene
20:10 <compguygene> just a quick question about the trunk series
20:10 <compguygene> hi
20:10 <luke-jr> aww, you won't stick around? :o
20:11 <compguygene> i am going to put up a fortress trunk server
20:11 <compguygene> i may
20:11 <compguygene> is the .3 branch the current branch that ur running luke?
20:11 <luke-jr> compguygene: am I still running that? XD
20:11 <luke-jr> there is no .3 branch, it's trunk
20:12 <luke-jr> if my zv2 test is still running, it's an old branch
20:12 <luke-jr> everything from it should be merged to trunk tho
20:12 <luke-jr> heck, we have parts of sty in trunk now
20:12 <luke-jr> might be fun to try fortress with respawning XD
20:12 <compguygene> really...saw the server that ct brought up
20:13 <compguygene> i have thought about that as a trainer
20:13 <luke-jr> compguygene: I'm rewriting soccer now
20:13 <luke-jr> smoothice over there is fiddling with flags
20:13 <compguygene> would be good for the newer people to fortress in my clan
20:13 <compguygene> ahh..saw teh flags in the fortress...kewl
20:14 <luke-jr> compguygene: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+spec/sty
20:14 <guru3> oh well time for dinner, bbl
20:14 <compguygene> ty
20:14  * luke-jr updates the status
20:15 <compguygene> kewl
20:15 <compguygene> u luv the alpha client
20:15 <luke-jr> O.o?
20:15 <compguygene> it is worth the occaisional video driver crash
20:15 <luke-jr> I sit on the edge on the clients ☺
20:15 <luke-jr> trunk is nice, but kills my FPS
20:15 <compguygene> i run the latest trunk client on a vista 64 install
20:16 <luke-jr> we support Vista? XD
20:16 <compguygene> it's just plain fun
20:16 <luke-jr> and I think you mean an old alpha ;)
20:16 <luke-jr> unless you managed to compile trunk yourself on Windows
20:16 <luke-jr> in which case please post teh builds on the aabeta site
20:17 <compguygene> no, it's the last one z-man posted
20:17 <compguygene> earlier this year
20:17 <luke-jr> I didn't realize we even had a Win64 bild
20:17 <luke-jr> build
20:17 <compguygene> it's not
20:17 <luke-jr> compguygene: that one's old, and doesn't support (modern) zones v2
20:18 <compguygene> not the one thats 2 years old...he built one about 2 months ago
20:18 <luke-jr> in fact, the entire game protocol is changed since that one
20:18 <luke-jr> yeah
20:18 <luke-jr> the whole protocol was rewritten about a week after that :p
20:18 <compguygene> ha.....
20:19 <luke-jr> with backward compatibility for 0.2.8
20:19 <compguygene> maybe i will figure out how to do my own build and post it...
20:19 <luke-jr> but not for 0.3.0 or your build
20:19 <luke-jr> ;)
20:19 <compguygene> kinda busy right now
20:19 <compguygene> i got a second VPS based in germany
20:19 <luke-jr> :o
20:19 <compguygene> so i can run a tourney entirely on my own..
20:20 <luke-jr> XD
20:20 <luke-jr> I wonder why we don't have any asian players
20:20 <compguygene> no offence...it was a unique value
20:20 <luke-jr> isn't gaming supposed to be popular there?
20:20 <luke-jr> compguygene: I don't have Europe VPS yet
20:20 <compguygene> i thought you had a uk vps?
20:20 <luke-jr> I have UK Arma hosting
20:20 <compguygene> np
20:20 <luke-jr> but not UK VPS hosting
20:20 <compguygene> ahh
20:21 <compguygene> i guess i did kind of push the envelope for you with the CT location on that
20:21 <luke-jr> compguygene: hosteurope.de, btw?
20:21 <compguygene> not inter.net
20:21 <compguygene> they had a really unique low end value
20:21 <luke-jr> hm
20:22 <compguygene> i'll email you details if your curious
20:22 <luke-jr> well, I'm lookign for a dedi ☺
20:22 <compguygene> for $12 a month i have enough power for my needs.
20:22 <compguygene> i think they offer that as well
20:23 <luke-jr> hm, not finding any info on the site
20:25 <compguygene> ok..quick check...no dedicated...
20:25 <compguygene> ddd
20:25 <compguygene> sss
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20:26 <compguygene> quick check on the web...no dedicated service
20:26 <luke-jr> oh well
20:26 <compguygene> but if i run accross a deal..i will let you know...people sometimes email me stuff
20:27 <compguygene> this provider targets the SOHO market with VPS/shared services
20:27 <luke-jr> i c
20:27 <compguygene> well..i really should do some housework..
20:28 <compguygene> nice to talk with you luke..ty for the explanation of the trunk
20:28 <luke-jr> np
20:28 <compguygene> i wondered why my client didn't seem to be show all this kewl zones v2 stuff
20:28 <compguygene> c u later
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20:36 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-zone-bouncing] r897 /OnCollision; noop /zZoneInfluenceItemBounc...
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20:45 <ivantis> noop
20:45 <ivantis> ؟
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20:45 <ivantis> what does noop mean ؟
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20:46 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r9155 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases.php: Added 0.2.8.3_beta3.
20:46 <@armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
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21:15 <luke-jr> ivantis: noop is common computer terminology, idiot
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21:22 <sinewave> Concord: : how do you rock so hard? :P
21:22 <Concord> excuse me?
21:22 <sinewave> just messin with ya
21:22 <dlh> z-man: can you do a grep of your Bugfarm Sumo logfiles for "Spam prefix found"?
21:23 <Concord> kk ;)
21:23 <z-man> oh, right. sorry. forgot about that. Will do in a minute.
21:24 <z-man> Nothing found.
21:25 <z-man> There wasn't a lot of activity.
21:25 <dlh> ah
21:27 <z-man> But at least we know there were no false positives :)
21:28 <dlh> Indeed :)
21:35 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Blaze/Race/Nova-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Blaze
21:49 <madmax> café anyone?
21:53 <madmax> #tea
21:53 <@armabot> madmax: Fortress Café: Players (4/32): Ct_Concord, madmax, MobiusPoint, nara
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22:40 <@armabot> armagetronad: guru3 * r9156 /www/mainsite/ (archive.php index.php): 0.2.8.3_beta3 is out
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22:46 <luke-jr> O.o
22:46 <luke-jr> is aabeta up? ☺
22:46 <luke-jr> for you IPv4 people I mean
22:47 <luke-jr> guru3: if you're going to use the lame 3/14 notation, at least use it completely: 3/14/2009 :p
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22:48 <luke-jr> ]later tell *z*man* what happened to the automated build upload script?
22:48 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
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22:49 <luke-jr> zmanuel: u has a msg
22:50 <luke-jr> btw, isn't it time to move to a RC? :p
22:50 <luke-jr> that's what the changelog seems to describe to me, anyhow
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22:51 <animuson> why is beta.armagetronad.net down?
22:51 <luke-jr> animuson: I just asked if it was and nobody answered.
22:51 <zmanuel> There were too many changes since beta2 to call it a RC.
22:52 <luke-jr> the simple answer is house cleaning ☺
22:52 <animuson> :P
22:52 <luke-jr> I wanted to reorganize the cable coax
22:52 <luke-jr> <.<
22:52 <zmanuel> And the automatic build script is still there and working fine :)
22:52 <animuson> when will it be back up? ^_^
22:52 <luke-jr> zmanuel: so why is it a pain?
22:52 <zmanuel> The main problem is the time the upload takes.
22:52 <luke-jr> animuson: well, it was never down on IPv6 ;)
22:53 <zmanuel> THe other services are way more annoying, though.
22:53 <luke-jr> zmanuel: oh, should be simple to have aabeta fetch from LP/SF
22:53 <zmanuel> For lack of automation possibility :)
22:53 <luke-jr> hm
22:54 <luke-jr> animuson: when I figure out the problem
22:54  * luke-jr reboots the modem
22:54 <luke-jr> … ACQ DS indicates we're RF return
22:55 <luke-jr> $$MCNS_STARTUP_COMPLETE$$
22:55 <luke-jr> yay
22:55 <luke-jr> IP will probably change tho
22:55 <luke-jr> DNS propagation :x
22:55 <luke-jr> zmanuel: expect a lot of "I hate AAbeta cuz it's down when u release beta3"
22:55 <luke-jr> :/
22:55 <zmanuel> Actually, it's leading so far.
22:56 <zmanuel> One vote against 0 :)
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22:56 <luke-jr> zmanuel: cuz I'm the only voter so far
22:56 <zmanuel> thought so ;)
22:56 <luke-jr> animuson: is it working by any chance?
22:57 <zmanuel> It's working for me now.
22:57 <luke-jr> good
22:57 <luke-jr> I manually added my old IP <.<
22:57 <luke-jr> yay for stupid standards like DOCSIS :D
22:59 <smoothice> aabeta is down guys
22:59 <luke-jr> …
22:59  * luke-jr smacks smoothice
22:59 <smoothice> the IP
22:59 <smoothice> that it points you
22:59 <smoothice> isn't responding
22:59 <smoothice> to*
22:59 <luke-jr> smoothice: RTFC
22:59 <smoothice> hah
22:59 <smoothice> I love reading logs
22:59 <smoothice> :P
22:59 <smoothice> #slap smoothice
22:59 <@armabot> smoothice slaps smoothice for being a raving moron.
23:00 <luke-jr> I wish I could automate DNS updates easier
23:00 <luke-jr> I still need to update my nameserver registration and levopede-uk's master IP
23:00 <smoothice> or
23:00 <smoothice> set your ttl really low
23:01 <smoothice> ~60
23:01 <luke-jr> smoothice: nameservers have a fixed high TTL
23:01 <smoothice> 86400?
23:01 <luke-jr> yeah
23:02 <luke-jr> yeah
23:02 <luke-jr> oops
23:03 <smoothice> lol
23:03 <luke-jr> smoothice: btw, was it really not workign when you said that?
23:03 <smoothice> yes
23:03 <smoothice> it really wasn't
23:03 <luke-jr> I thought I had it working ~90 seconds before
23:03 <smoothice> Still not for me
23:03 <smoothice> I'll flush out my cache
23:03 <smoothice> but yeah
23:04 <smoothice> nope
23:04 <smoothice> no work after dns flush
23:04 <luke-jr> doh
23:04 <luke-jr> did I just give it the wrong IP? XD
23:04 <smoothice> did you?
23:05 <smoothice> 98.172.136.230 for me
23:05 <smoothice> I'm getting from dns ^
23:05 <luke-jr> meh I did
23:05 <smoothice> ...
23:05 <smoothice> hachi.dashjr.org (98.172.136.230)
23:05 <smoothice> 2 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet los
23:05 <smoothice> lol
23:05 <luke-jr> flush cache again
23:05 <smoothice> k
23:06 <animuson> its back up yay
23:06 <smoothice> my dns is still reporting 98.172.136.230
23:07 <animuson> well ur dns sux :P
23:07 <smoothice> http://www.grabup.com/uploads/a0b994be31c33af62966b73855a66129.png?direct
23:07 <luke-jr> f u animuson
23:07 <luke-jr> o
23:07 <luke-jr> smoothice's DNS
23:07 <luke-jr> I have TTL of like 300
23:07 <luke-jr> and everydns only updates once an hour I think
23:08 <smoothice> I'm forcing opendns to refresh its cache
23:08 <smoothice> should get to me eventually
23:09 <smoothice> Hachi is a Dell PowerEdge 6400 with dual Xeon processors clocked at 550 MHz with 1024 KB caches each. He has 2 GB of "real" RAM and 1 GB of virtual memory (swap).
23:09 <smoothice> that's cool
23:10 <smoothice> ok
23:10 <smoothice> aabeta back up for me
23:10 <smoothice> hachi.dashjr.org (98.172.136.133)
23:13 <luke-jr> k
23:13 <luke-jr> back to reorganziing then
23:15 <luke-jr> if it goes down again, call me
23:15 <luke-jr> :p
23:15 <luke-jr> 402-218-1954
23:15 <Concord> #si cafe
23:15 <smoothice> luke-jr: lol...
23:15 <@armabot> Concord: Fortress Café: Players (14/32): Bah, bugra, Ct_Concord, Guybrush, King Smurf, MobiusPoint, Player 1, Player 1.4, Player 2, Smurf #365, the gay smurf, `WwRudycantfail, ~|DS|~zion, ¦×¦ PlayerNuby (PlayerNub@x/member)
23:15 <Concord> :D
23:17 <smoothice> Concord: lol...
23:18 <Concord> :D
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23:23 <ivantis> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IBhJ6x2Erwk/SKIzB0qVEaI/AAAAAAAAA8I/WwWkLGVNm-o/s1600-h/hilarious-1.jpg
23:23 <ivantis> like it says, hilarious
23:23 <smoothice> ivantis: -.-
23:23 <smoothice> dammit
23:23 <smoothice> porn
23:23 <ivantis> scroll down fool
23:23 <smoothice> I actually reset my web browser after viewing that
23:24 <ivantis> Myspace: next time you try to look hot, flush the toilet.
23:24 <ivantis> (the caption)
23:28 <smoothice> I wish I could #kick ivantis
23:28 <smoothice> I guess I'll just have to
23:28 <ivantis> im looking at a really weird blog
23:28 <smoothice> #slap ivantis then
23:28 <@armabot> smoothice slaps ivantis then for being a raving moron.
23:30 <ivantis> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_eqkC4iaC5QI/SKeiNnLeReI/AAAAAAAAQbg/mA4ukA7Pv3c/s1600-h/sucker.jpg
23:30 <smoothice> no way am I clicking on that
23:31 <ivantis> dude
23:31 <smoothice> yes mam?
23:31 <ivantis> its just a bunch of suckers stuck to a guys back
23:31 <ivantis> man there are some weird pictures here
23:33 <ivantis> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_NYOy5gqSMBE/SKtOVaL8EGI/AAAAAAAABHg/0ePLIohb1ko/s1600-h/DSCN0638.jpg
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23:43 <ivantis> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_eqkC4iaC5QI/SK_3pTqGEhI/AAAAAAAARAM/sMW71cYJARI/s1600-h/ErgoQuest500.jpg
23:43 <ivantis> i need that
23:51 <luke-jr> still up?
23:52 <ivantis> huh?
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23:52 <luke-jr> aabeta
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23:54 <animuson> beta is down again :(
23:57 <ivantis> that answers his question
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23:58 <Lackadaisical> #tea
23:58 <@armabot> Lackadaisical: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): Egg, Player 1, Player 2, wap, ~|DS|~zion, ¦×¦ PlayerNuby
23:59 <luke-jr> sigh
23:59 <luke-jr> it's March

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