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00:00 <zmanuel> No. The main purpose of protobuf was that we have more possibilities to modify our messages without breaking compatibility.
00:00 <zmanuel> The compression is a nice side effect :)
00:01 <luke-jr> imo, protobuf makes compatibility more difficult
00:01 <luke-jr> I don't know how to replace a tColor with a tGradient :p
00:01 <luke-jr> but I guess the old netsync wasn't any easier
00:03 <zmanuel> definitely not :)
00:03 <zmanuel> Remind me tomorrow to write something on 'how to change protobuf messages without breaking compatibility' on the wiki.
00:04 <luke-jr> why tomorrow? ☺
00:04 <zmanuel> Because it's midnight here and I would write only crap if I did it now.
00:05 <luke-jr> XD
00:12 <Lucifer> GodTodd__: ping
00:17 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9086 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (20 files in 5 dirs): Manuel Moos: Merged Luke-Jr's zone cleanup branch.
00:18 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9087 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/resource/tResource.cpp): Manuel Moos: Merging old map compatibility branch. Dunno what it does, but it doesn't break stuff :)
00:19 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9088 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/tron/zone/zShape.cpp): Manuel Moos: Applying legacy alpha factor to incoming 0.2.8 zone syncs.
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01:14 <smoothice> luke-jr: would you mind compiling armagetronad-v2sty quickly? i cannot do it on Osx
01:14 <luke-jr> I would.
01:15 <smoothice> THanks!
01:15 <smoothice> rev 863
01:16 <smoothice> luke-jr: I think I also need to make a zones v2 sty map
01:16 <luke-jr> smoothice: no, it should work with already existing maps
01:16 <luke-jr> and please reread what I said
01:16 <luke-jr> eg, I would (mind).
01:17 <smoothice> oh
01:17 <smoothice> oops
01:18 <smoothice> fine w/e
01:19 <smoothice> luke-jr: If BZR reports Text conflict in MacOS/Armagetron Advanced.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj
01:19 <smoothice> 1 conflicts encountered.
01:20 <smoothice> luke-jr: does that mean it resolved the conflict??
01:20 <luke-jr> no
01:20 <luke-jr> if it "resolved" it, it wouldn't be a conflict
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01:21 <smoothice> how do I know what the conflict was?
01:21 <kamp> anyone got an idea about how to get nickserv to let go of a past username?
01:22 <kamp> anyone around
01:22  * kamp sees a cricket go past
01:23 <smoothice> kamp: Not that I know of
01:23 <smoothice> kamp: try #freenode
01:23 <kamp> thanks
01:24 <kamp> anyway, how's it hangin in here?
01:24 <kamp> Armagetron moving forward?
01:24 <smoothice> yep
01:24 <smoothice> luke-jr: how do I know what the conflict was? it didn't tell me
01:25 <kamp> good to hear, good to hear
01:25  * kamp slouches off a bit
01:26 <smoothice> luke-jr: w/e, I'll just not push that merge
01:27 <luke-jr> open the file
01:28 <smoothice> ok
01:28 <smoothice> ok opened
01:28 <smoothice> How do I find the conflict?
01:30 <luke-jr> grep ========
01:31 <smoothice> <<<<<<< TREE
01:31 <smoothice> =======
01:31 <smoothice> >>>>>>> MERGE-SOURCE
01:32 <Lucifer> heya kamp
01:32 <Lucifer> GodTodd__: ping :)
01:35 <kamp> hey luci
01:35 <kamp> say, do you know who made the armagetron page on facebook?
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01:36 <cpayan> sigh
01:36 <cpayan> I can't remember the passwd for this one
01:37 <luke-jr> cpayan: which one?
01:37 <cpayan> The actual page
01:37 <cpayan> not the groups
01:37 <cpayan> I saw there are two sizable groups, but the page (with fans and all) is rather small
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01:48 <cpayan> beautiful
01:48 <cpayan> got my nickname
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01:59 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r862 Merge from mainline || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r866 ZONE_ALPHA_SERVER now only gets applied if no color at all a...
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02:05  * cpayan is reading the forum thread on revitalization. It seems as though armagetron needs a thorough cleaning, in code and image, before anything else can be done. Thoughts? Lucifer? oh, and hi fonkay :)
02:15 <Concord> smoothice: could I have admin in nw fortress for tomorrows ladle, I play in opening round there
02:15 <Concord> :)
02:16 <smoothice> Concord: sure... I gotta go compile 0.2.8 on my friend's server that I'm arbitrarily  using
02:16 <smoothice> since my vps cannot handle it
02:16 <smoothice> lol
02:16 <Concord> lol ok
02:16 <smoothice> please PM me your global id
02:16 <Concord> Concord@ct
02:16 <smoothice> k
02:17 <Concord> thynx
02:17 <Concord> ;)
02:18 <smoothice> Concord: I hope my friend doesn't get mad :)
02:18 <Concord> Lol! :D
02:18 <ct|kyle> heh
02:18 <smoothice> I asked him like a month ago
02:18 <smoothice> lol
02:18 <smoothice> he's the dude that hosts id tech racing
02:18 <smoothice> if you've seen it
02:18 <Concord> I have,
02:18 <smoothice> yeha
02:18 <Concord> never gone in tho
02:18 <Concord> :P
02:19 <smoothice> If he says no you're probably going to kill me
02:19 <smoothice> I'll manage I guess lol
02:20 <ct|kyle> we could put up a CT 3 LOL
02:23 <smoothice> frick
02:23 <smoothice> lolz
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02:29 <Concord> or you could just convert one of your df servers to fort for a couple hours ...
02:29 <ivantis2> or you could shut down all the servers
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02:40 <luke-jr> ]later tell zmanuel http://developer.download.nvidia.com/SDK/10/direct3d/Source/StencilRoutedKBuffer/doc/StencilRoutedKBuffer.pdf
02:40 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
02:40 <luke-jr> ]later tell zmanuel http://developer.nvidia.com/object/Interactive_Order_Transparency.html
02:40 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
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02:45 <luke-jr> #kick ivantis2
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02:45 <ivantis2> very unneccessary
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02:46 <luke-jr> CPAN imposter
02:46 <luke-jr> #kick CPAN
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02:47 <CPAN> im getting it dropped
02:47 <CPAN> for CPAN2 to use
02:47 <CPAN> noob
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02:52 <nsh22> hey
02:52 <nsh22> any1 up for dsome fort?
02:55 <smoothice> nsh22: hi
02:55 <nsh22> yo
02:55 <nsh22> how did tourny go today
02:55 <nsh22> btw im in fort cafe
02:56 <smoothice> I missed it
02:57 <nsh22> why?
02:57 <nsh22> nvm i wasnt there either :P
02:59 <nsh22> smoothice: wanna practise for ladle?
03:00 <smoothice> nsh22: doing zv2 sty right now port
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03:00 <nsh22> ah
03:01 <nsh22> smoothice: btw do you know why bye is no longer listyed as a clkan member?
03:01 <smoothice> :O
03:01 <smoothice> did he resign?
03:01 <nsh22> i dunno
03:01 <nsh22> but on the forums his name is in the user group, not he clan group
03:02 <nsh22> i shall look into this
03:02 <smoothice> yeah k
03:02 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r865 Xcode source files sort and zFlag header work || [armagetronad-v2sty] r864 Added zFlag to Xcode project || [armagetronad-v2sty] r863 reapplied zFlag after merge from mainline
03:03 <nsh22> ohhh its a globalk mod
03:03 <nsh22> my b
03:03 <nsh22> now i remember
03:03 <nsh22> hes our forum moderator :P
03:06 <smoothice> umm
03:07 <smoothice> global mods are black and so are users
03:12 <nsh22> ill change that
03:16 <nsh22> ]yandere
03:16 <ljrbot> nsh22: You're already playing a game on this network. You can only be in one at a time.
03:16 <nsh22> rly?
03:17 <smoothice> luke-jr: The constructor variables have to be declared in the header file. Should they be private or public?
03:19 <nsh22> ]yandere
03:19 <ljrbot> A yandere game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "]yandere" to join.
03:19 <nsh22> \o/
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03:20 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
03:21 <ljrbot> There aren't enough players to start a yandere game. Try again later.
03:25 <nsh22> o0
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03:27 <nsh22> #si fort
03:27 <@armabot> nsh22: Wild West  =Fortress Shootout=: Players (1/12): Spec Ops
03:28 <smoothice> luke-jr: ???
03:31 <nsh22> luke-jr: ping
03:32 <cpayan> la la
03:42 <nsh22> smoothice: do you know what the v1 and v2 zones are?
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03:46 <luke-jr> nsh22: ……………………………….. do you?
03:48 <nsh22> no, thats why i asking
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03:54 <nsh22> anyways, what is the v1 and v2 zones and what are their differnces/goals
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03:55 <niveus> hello :)
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03:59 <GodTodd> Lucifer, pong
04:08 <smoothice> luke-jr: How do I get the current team of a gCycle?
04:09 <smoothice> luke-jr: Do I need to get the ePlayer of the cycle to find its eTeam?
04:32 <nsh22> #night
04:32 <@armabot> Good night nsh22!
04:33 <smoothice> bye nsh22
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05:18 <tsrk> how much bandwidth does a server generally use?
05:24 <smoothice> tsrk: it depends on what MAX_OUT_RATE is set at
05:30 <tsrk> well, my real question is: would 5GB / month of bandwidth be enough?
05:32 <luke-jr> tsrk: I host servers.
05:32 <luke-jr> http://lightfoot.dashjr.org
05:32 <luke-jr> ☺
05:32 <tsrk> i'm currently paying $5 for a VDS w/ 5GB bandwidth
05:32 <luke-jr> tsrk: I know an empty-24/7 server uses about 100 MB/mo
05:33 <tsrk> i'd assume the players would use most of it though :P
05:33 <luke-jr> once you add players, it varies a lot
05:33 <ct|kyle> if you run 6 semi popular servers it gets into the 50-60 GB
05:33 <luke-jr> tsrk: my cheapest VPS plan is $11/mo (on special)
05:34 <smoothice> luke-jr: How do I get the current team of a gCycle?
05:34 <smoothice>  Do I need to get the ePlayer of the cycle to find its eTeam?
05:34 <tsrk> oh wow, 50gb, that'd be a lot too much :P
05:34 <tsrk> oh
05:34 <tsrk> 6
05:34 <luke-jr> smoothice: not sure
05:34 <tsrk> i missed that :P
05:34 <tsrk> still
05:34 <tsrk> 10gb
05:35 <luke-jr> tsrk: that $11/mo VPS I offer has 32 GB/mo transfer ☺
05:35 <smoothice> fsckvps.com
05:35 <tsrk> luke, nice
05:36 <tsrk> smoothice, i've looked @ that but they look unprofessional, where did you find out about them?
05:36 <tsrk> luke-jr, specs on that?
05:36 <luke-jr> tsrk: 128 MB RAM (burst to 256 MB), 5 GB disk space, 1 IP
05:37 <smoothice> tsrk: I use them
05:37 <smoothice> tsrk: but go with luke he's better
05:37 <tsrk> luke-jr, 128mb ram :S
05:37 <luke-jr> tsrk: you need more?
05:38 <tsrk> i thinks o
05:38  * luke-jr actually started his Arma hosting w/ 64 MB RAM in at least one case ☺
05:38 <tsrk> current one has 256
05:38 <tsrk> :O
05:38 <tsrk> 64mb?
05:38 <luke-jr> tsrk: My $12/mo plan has 256 MB RAM (512 MB burst), 8 GB disk, 64 GB transfer
05:38 <tsrk> only $1 more?
05:39 <luke-jr> for that plan, in USD
05:40 <tsrk> hmm
05:40 <tsrk> tempting
05:40 <tsrk> what can i get for $13? :P
05:40 <luke-jr> http://lightfoot.dashjr.org/?page=vps
05:40 <luke-jr> the next plan up is $15/mo -- 512 MB RAM (1 GB burst), 16 GB disk, 256 GB xfer
05:41 <tsrk> :O openvz
05:41 <tsrk> is that the shared kernel one?
05:41 <luke-jr> yeah
05:42 <tsrk> does it work well?
05:42 <luke-jr> very well
05:42 <tsrk> like better than vmware and stuff?
05:42 <luke-jr> no overhead at all
05:42 <tsrk> wow
05:42 <tsrk> nice
05:42 <luke-jr> that's why I use it over VMWare/Xen/etc
05:42 <tsrk> don't they all have to run the same OS though?
05:42 <tsrk> and
05:42 <luke-jr> same kernel only
05:42 <tsrk> is that also what vserver does?
05:42 <tsrk> ah
05:42 <luke-jr> the other parts of the OS can be different
05:42 <luke-jr> VServer is the same concept yeah
05:42 <luke-jr> OpenVZ is more mature though
05:42 <tsrk> but could you have like debian and redhat running the same kernel?
05:43 <luke-jr> right
05:43 <tsrk> wow nice
05:43 <tsrk> i've been messing around with vmware lately
05:43 <tsrk> it seems good for testing stuff
05:43 <luke-jr> Xen is a little better than VMWare on overhead
05:43 <tsrk> isn't there a risk with VMs interfering with each other and stuff though?
05:43 <luke-jr> but even then, there's a bit more lag ☹
05:43 <tsrk> through the kernel?
05:43 <luke-jr> only if there's a kernel bug
05:44 <tsrk> but normally they shouldn't?
05:44 <luke-jr> right
05:44 <tsrk> ah ok
05:46 <tsrk> can I run ubuntu server 8.10?
05:46 <tsrk> also, what's the connection speed?
05:46 <luke-jr> yeah
05:46 <luke-jr> generally 100 Mbit shared, but at least 10 Mbit
05:47 <tsrk> ok
05:48 <tsrk> wow that's tempting
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06:12 <smoothice> luke-jr: can you assist me for a moment?
06:13 <luke-jr> ?
06:14 <smoothice> ok
06:15 <smoothice> I'm actually making progress on this port
06:17 <smoothice> but
06:17 <luke-jr> but!
06:17 <smoothice> here's the problem
06:17 <smoothice> How do I get the current team of a gCycle?
06:17 <smoothice> because
06:18 <smoothice> I need to check in OnEnter
06:18 <smoothice> If the cycle entered is on the same team that owns the flag
06:18 <smoothice> and if so, return the flag
06:18 <luke-jr> there is no OnEnter
06:18 <smoothice> OnInside
06:18 <luke-jr> read gCycle.h
06:18 <luke-jr> ☺
06:18 <smoothice> K
06:18 <smoothice> k*
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06:38 <smoothice> luke-jr: The word "team" isn't in gCycle.h :(
06:38 <luke-jr> I said read, not grep.
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06:40 <smoothice> luke-jr: I don't see it either :/
06:42 <luke-jr> also, you want to use OnEntry for this probably
06:42 <smoothice> I don't see current team
06:42 <smoothice> crud
06:42 <smoothice> I don't see any methods related to getting information on a gCycle
06:46 <luke-jr> ePlayerNetID *Player()const
06:46 <luke-jr> that's on a parent class
06:47 <smoothice> huh?
06:47 <smoothice> what do I do with that
06:48 <luke-jr> which has CurrentTeam
06:48 <smoothice> I have a gCycle pointer called target
06:48 <luke-jr> (eTeam)
06:48 <luke-jr> eTeam * team = cycle->Player()->CurrentTeam();
06:48 <smoothice> Ah
06:48 <smoothice> easy
06:51 <luke-jr> night
06:51 <smoothice> ok
06:55 <smoothice> luke-jr: you still here]
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08:14 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r866 Header file completion of zFlag and implementation work
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11:10 <wrtlprnft> zmanuel, luke-jr: I didn't suggest it was a good idea, I just answered your question about compatibility
11:10 <wrtlprnft> #cfg min_players
11:10 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: MIN_PLAYERS: Minimum number of players (default: 4) || SP_MIN_PLAYERS: Minimum number of players in single player mode (default: 0) || SP_TEAM_MIN_PLAYERS: Minimum number of players per team in single player mode (default: 1) || TEAM_MIN_PLAYERS: Minimum number of players per team (default: 1)
11:10 <zmanuel> huh? aren't the defaults the other way round?
11:11 <wrtlprnft> hmm, indeed, that's weird
11:11  * zmanuel should put ljrbot on his ignore list. it's stalking him.
11:12 <wrtlprnft> you have to know that this is just a manipulated --doc that prints the current value (but without any special config so it should be the default in most cases)
11:12 <wrtlprnft> how's that?
11:13 <zmanuel> luke-jr is giving it messages to deliver to me
11:13 <zmanuel> and since my nick changes and I don't bother to reset it, I usually get them days later.
11:14 -!- zmanuel is now known as z-man
11:14 <wrtlprnft>  #later tell *z*man* works fine for me :-)
11:15 <z-man> #m luke-jr The stencil method is fucking shader intensive. We can't use that while still claiming to run on old hardware.
11:15 <@armabot> z-man: The operation succeeded.
11:15 <z-man> gaaa!
11:15 <BabyBug> language!!
11:15 <wrtlprnft> huh?
11:15 <epsy> could a GRUB floppy boot something from an usb mass storage device?
11:16 <z-man> Now I got another old message from ljrbot
11:16 <wrtlprnft> z-man: never claim intel driver upgrades can't hurt. At least on linux they do quite often
11:16 <z-man> heh :)
11:16 <epsy> you're on the TTM replacement update?
11:17 <epsy> with the TTM replacement never having being actually implemented by anything else than the driver itself, and the driver removing support for TTM ?
11:17 <epsy> that's a hell of an upgrade
11:17 <z-man> #m luke-jr and depth peeling was known to me. It requires a hell of a lot of rendering passes.
11:17 <@armabot> z-man: The operation succeeded.
11:19 <wrtlprnft> err, i don't even mean that. currently for any version > 2.4.3 i have to (pretend to) have an external monitor or it will flicker once in a while and crash after a few hours, requiring a reboot to get graphics again (although i can still ssh in)
11:20 <wrtlprnft> z-man: would it really be that hard to just do a bubblesort step on the transparent objects by distance from the camera once per frame?
11:21 <wrtlprnft> that should work as long as they don't intersect
11:29 <epsy> wrtlprnft, would you mind testing if you can crash your PC with warsow?
11:36 <z-man> no, it wouldn't be too hard, but if you actually modify the game object order in the array, it may break debug recordings once you move the camera around, which is the one change I want to allow while playing back a recording :)
11:37 <z-man> Sorting them in a separate list would work, of course.
11:37 <z-man> I'm constantly thinking about splitting the render part of objects from the game logic part.
11:37 <z-man> the game logic bit would still reside on the grid
11:38 <z-man> while the render part would be sorted into a quad/octreee and also a material tree, so they can get rendered with optimized/correct order.
11:38 <z-man> Plus, where they can be frustum-culled.
11:40 <wrtlprnft> MVC?
11:40 <Lucifer> GodTodd: pijg
11:40 <Lucifer> er
11:40 <Lucifer> ping
11:40 <wrtlprnft> epsy: would that require me to boot into windows?
11:40  * Lucifer has had a lot to drink
11:41  * Lucifer managed to get in a hot tub with complete stranger, totally naken
11:41 <Lucifer> er
11:41 <Lucifer> totalley naked
11:41 <Lucifer> obviously I've had too much to drink
11:43 <wrtlprnft> now that's the kind of thing i don't *need* to know :-P
11:43 <Lucifer> haha
11:43 <Lucifer> wwell,  it was fun
11:44 <Lucifer> it was a meetup taht I was led to belive waan mostly my divorce-support gorup, but turned out to be a little different
11:44 <Lucifer> plenty of wine, though
11:44 <Lucifer> although t he girl I thought I could fool around with got involved with somebody else
11:44 <PinkTomato> Quick Question: Anyone know if I will I need to upgrade my ladle server for tonight?
11:44 <Lucifer> apparently I've got a lot to learn about that stuff
11:49 <z-man> curse me for that boring stable relationship, I guess.
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11:50 <Lucifer> what weirded me out was random people that knew me
11:50 <Lucifer> that weiredeed me out a lot
11:50 <Lucifer> (of couse, they looked at my picuter on my meetup profile, but it still weirded me out)
11:56  * BabyBug looks shamefully upon Lucifer 8-)
11:56 <Lucifer> man, I deserve all yur shame
11:56 <Lucifer> how can I walk into a room full of women checking me out, and not get laid?
11:56 <BabyBug> too old? =P
11:57 <Lucifer> I wa sone of the youngest in the corwd
11:57 <Lucifer> most were 40+
11:57 <BabyBug> ew
11:57 <Lucifer> phucking pathetic
11:57 <Lucifer> I shouldn've gotten laid, it's just damned sad that I didn't
11:58 <BabyBug> more to the point though...How do you get naked in a hot tub and still not get laid? that's stranger :P
11:58 <Lucifer> 2:1 guy/girl ratio
11:58 <epsy> wrtlprnft, no
11:58 <Lucifer> the girl I talked into jumping end ended up across from me
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11:58 <Lucifer> I've had too much to drink, heh
11:59 <BabyBug> well that was stupid! =P
11:59 <Lucifer> hit me up with it in the mornming, when I can talk straight
11:59 <BabyBug> lol ^^
12:00 <Lucifer> IU had fun, though, that's what really matters
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12:00 <BabyBug> *raises eyebrow*
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12:10 <Lucifer> hopefully when I'm sober, I'll be able to examine the data and figure out how I didn't get laid
12:11 <BabyBug> examine the data? it's not a science experiment!
12:12 <Lucifer> although, I'm prepared to acknowledge that there's no logic to it, and therefore I may not be able to figure it out
12:12 <Lucifer> it is too a science experiment
12:12 <BabyBug> ...
12:12  * BabyBug slaps
12:12  * Lucifer dodges
12:12 <BabyBug> -sigh-
12:13 <Lucifer> see, at some point, I'm not sure when, I got magically put in charge of the hot tub conversation
12:13 <Lucifer> not sure how that happened, but I did my best with the role that was thrust upon me
12:14 <BabyBug> and your best was terrible no doubt =)
12:14 <Lucifer> anyway, I'm gonna roll up my last cigarette, smoke it, and then go to bed
12:14 <BabyBug> what?!
12:15 <BabyBug> I thought you were giving up?
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13:16 <wrtlprnft> #later tell *epsy* well, i only get about 5spf, but it didn't crash so far…
13:16 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
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13:52 <pavelo> Lacrymosa: it seems i will be able to play after all
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14:33 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/arma/?min=741
14:33 <wrtlprnft> finally i can play my own maps :-)
14:34 <Flex> i got 10-20fps when i tried
14:35 <wrtlprnft> well, the tronsector one gives me about 60fps when i turn the minimap off
14:36 <Concord> #si cafe
14:36 <@armabot> Concord: Fortress Café: Players (8/32): Concord, CRaZy B3eR, Lenco, Monkey.D.Luffy, Pez, prupixie, Virg <3, BaTTaL, waterglow
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14:37 <nsh22> hey
14:37 <Flex> Concord, so what has happened to the vcL team?
14:37 <nsh22> the ladle starts at 1:45p EST corrcect?
14:38 <Flex> correct
14:38 <nsh22> Flex: on the wiki it says they merged with nw
14:38 <Concord> flex you have a bye it seems
14:38 <nsh22> kk so ill be on here for 1 30 :P
14:38 <Flex> maybe we don't want a bye
14:38 <nsh22> well you get one anyways
14:38 <Flex> doesn't that call for a reshuffle?
14:38 <Flex> well i don't want one..
14:38 <nsh22> why not?
14:39 <Concord> flex, were not changing the board day of
14:39 <nsh22> lol
14:39 <Concord> that would be mayhem
14:39 <Flex> not really
14:40 <nsh22> #weather innisfil
14:40 <@armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Innisfil, Innisfil, Ontario is 13.3°F (8:40 AM EST on March 01, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: -7.6°F. Windchill: 14.0°F. Pressure: 30.27 in 1024.9 hPa (Rising).
14:40 <nsh22> couldnt you give somebody else a bye and replace that team with flex's?
14:40 <Concord> with the new teams, and the 128 players
14:40 <Concord> no way! :)
14:40 <nsh22> 128 players?
14:41 <nsh22> wd
14:41 <nsh22> :)
14:41 <Flex> give us tr/ct/x
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14:41 <nsh22> the bowl is looking more like a reality
14:41 <Flex> we'd love to play them first ;)
14:43 <Concord> Flex, its random, some one is not going to be happy, but it is fair
14:45 <pavelo> Flex: it would appear i can play tonight
14:45 <Flex> great
14:45 <Flex> we have 8 now
14:45 <Flex> join #kod
14:46 <nsh22> #NW
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14:50 <Lacrymosa> #kod
14:53 <nsh22> #later smoothice join ##wL
14:53 <nsh22> #help later
14:53 <@armabot> nsh22: Error: There is no command "later".
14:53 <nsh22> #help list
14:53 <Flex> try #m
14:53 <@armabot> nsh22: (list [--private] [<plugin>]) -- Lists the commands available in the given plugin. If no plugin is given, lists the public plugins available. If --private is given, lists the private plugins.
14:53 <nsh22> #m smoothice join ##wL
14:53 <@armabot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
14:53 <nsh22> ty flex :P
14:53 <Flex> np
15:03 <wrtlprnft> argh
15:03 <wrtlprnft> i hate gentoo sometimes
15:03 <wrtlprnft> who would want gimp without png support?
15:03 <joda_bot> wrtlprnft: :D
15:04 <joda_bot> wrtlprnft: gentoo teached me alot of linux stuff, but it's kind of tiresome to update :-)
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15:04 <wrtlprnft> do you think i'd be using gentoo if i didn't like it?
15:05 <wrtlprnft> it's just… use flags are great, but the defaults are just odd
15:06 <wrtlprnft> half of the games do build but fail miserably because sdl_image can't load png or jpg images, which just happens to be almost everything
15:06 <nsh22> gentoo doesnt support jpgs or pngs?
15:06 <nsh22> #help list private
15:06 <@armabot> nsh22: Error: There is no command "list private".
15:06 <pavelo> I'm pretty sure jpeg&png are on by default
15:07 <nsh22> #help list --private
15:07 <@armabot> nsh22: Error: There is no command "list private".
15:07 <wrtlprnft> well, they weren't for me
15:08 <pavelo> what profile are you using? server perhaps?
15:11 <wrtlprnft> default
15:11 <wrtlprnft> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 48 Jan 17 19:34 /etc/make.profile -> ../usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/x86/2008.0
15:12 <nsh22> if any1 wants me, just highlight :)
15:12  * nsh22 is away: 
15:14 <Concord> Flex, whats your server called atm?
15:14 <Flex> flex's server
15:15 <Flex> #flex
15:15 <Concord> I can't seem to find it on the list :P
15:15 <nsh22> how do i get chanserv to go to my channel?
15:15  * Concord is a noob
15:15 <nsh22> :P
15:15 <nsh22> acceptance is the first set to recovery XP
15:15 <nsh22> step*
15:15 <Flex> yes.. whatt's the point in a server if it likes to keep switching itself off
15:15 <Flex> how stupid
15:16 <pavelo> hmm... it seems they are off for the default profile
15:16 <Flex> try now Concord
15:16 <pavelo> maybe you should use the desktop profile
15:16 <Concord> success!
15:17 <Concord> with default settings ;)
15:17 <nsh22> Concord: did smooth give you the level you needed?
15:18 <Concord> yeah tanx :)
15:18 <nsh22> ok
15:18 <Concord> wups
15:26 <nsh22> #si fort
15:26 <@armabot> nsh22: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: Players (8/14): $_M0Ñ3Y, *_Centrurøide_§, ? ?Z?3?B?R?A? ?, FrEeToSk8bRd, hand, Key, LA PANTERA, urg
15:26 <nsh22> #si night fort
15:26 <@armabot> nsh22: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “night fort” at the moment, sorry.
15:27 <nsh22> #si night walkers centaral fortress
15:27 <@armabot> nsh22: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “night walkers centaral fortress” at the moment, sorry.
15:28 <nsh22> #roulette
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15:28  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
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15:28 <nsh22> ...
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15:46 <nsh22> SMOOTH!
15:46 <nsh22> hai
15:47 <smoothice> nsh22: hi
15:48  * nsh22 is back (gone 00:36:10)
15:48 <smoothice> k
15:50 <nsh22> #weather innisfil
15:50 <@armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Innisfil, Innisfil, Ontario is 16.0°F (9:50 AM EST on March 01, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: -2.2°F. Windchill: 15.8°F. Pressure: 30.27 in 1024.9 hPa (Steady).
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15:52 <smoothice> luke-jr: http://rafb.net/p/fLbDAf67.html
15:57 <nsh22> smoothice: how did you get your ath.cx website?
15:57 <smoothice> nsh22: dyndns.com
15:58 <smoothice> It's just a dyndns host
15:58 <nsh22> so just get a dns?
15:58 <smoothice> pointing to an IP
15:58 <smoothice> yeah
15:58 <nsh22> it points to you r ip i take it?
15:59 <smoothice> yep
15:59 <nsh22> ill be back for 130
15:59 <smoothice> k
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16:00 <smoothice> ct|kyle: successful zones v2 sty build :D
16:02 <smoothice> z-man: Do you know what would be the best way to make a zones v2 CTF map?
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16:26 <fonkay> cpayan: Hey, ltnt.
16:27 <smoothice> luke-jr: I cannot get a flag to show after a compile and run :(
16:29 <cpayan> hey fonkay
16:29 <cpayan> what's ltnt?
16:29 <cpayan> long time no... talk?
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16:39 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r867 Header file stuff and successful build
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16:43 <smoothice> Concord: my friend agreeed
16:43 <smoothice> Concord: you're admin and it's up
16:43 <Concord> I saw :)
16:43 <ct|kyle> smoothice: so what sty components are working
16:43 <Concord> the server feels good too ;)
16:43 <Concord> thanks
16:45 <smoothice> ct|kyle: flag other than the fact that I A. don't have a real zones v2 ctf map and B I made a test one and it aborted with error "abort trap"
16:46 <ct|kyle> did you add stuff to gparser to read in the zones v2 flag stuff
16:46 <smoothice> ct|kyle: I think I made the map wrong
16:46 <smoothice> well
16:46 <Concord> this room is more crowded than when I left ;)
16:47 <smoothice> I didn't add it into gParser but at the end of zFlag.cpp I added static zZoneExtRegistration regFlag("flag", "", zFlagZone::create);
16:58 <smoothice> ct|kyle: It just occurred to me I never compiled with --enable-zonesv2
16:58 <smoothice> ct|kyle: -.-
17:05 <smoothice> ct|kyle: would you mind giving it a quick compile? I don't know how to set configure flags directly in Xcode
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17:12 <smoothice> #seen maclover201
17:12 <@armabot> smoothice: maclover201 was last seen in #armagetron 1 week, 6 days, 21 hours, 10 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <maclover201> Well, externs are really extern static
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17:15 <smoothice> #seen dlh
17:15 <@armabot> smoothice: dlh was last seen in #armagetron 1 day, 11 hours, 7 minutes, and 56 seconds ago: <dlh> oh, RemoveFromGame()
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17:26 <Concord> smoothice: he is ingame currently
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17:31 <smoothice> Concord: dlh?
17:31 <smoothice> #ls dlh
17:32 <@armabot> smoothice: timed out
17:32 <smoothice> Concord: ????
17:32 <Concord> he plays as free kill
17:32 <Concord> ...
17:32 <smoothice> :O
17:32 <smoothice> that's DLH?
17:32 <smoothice> #ls free_kill
17:33 <@armabot> smoothice: free kill seems to be on Crazy Tronners Ladle Fortress 1 right now.
17:33 <pikey> #lastseen then00b
17:33 <Flex> #ls Vanhayes
17:33 <@armabot> pikey: timed out
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17:33 <@armabot> Flex: timed out
17:40 <smoothice> #ls free_kill
17:40 <@armabot> smoothice: free kill has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Ladle Fortress 1 3 minutes ago.
17:41 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r868 Beginning to add language and console output stuff
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17:44 <fonkay> cpayan: yes
17:44 <cpayan> coo
17:44 <fonkay> i know :P
17:44 <fonkay> idn't it?
17:58 <joda_bot> fonkay: cpayan: Strange conversation ? :D
18:05 <cpayan> yep conversations can be a bit weird when neither person's there at the same time joda_bot
18:05 <cpayan> IRC tag fonkay's it!
18:05 <joda_bot> cpayan: what did you refer to then ? some armabot tell me later message ?
18:06 <joda_bot> or did you talk about that yesterday ? :D
18:06 <cpayan> ah yea
18:07 <cpayan> she told me ltnt
18:07 <cpayan> which, devoid of consonants, was a bit confusing, joda_bot
18:13 <ct|kyle> smoothice: still need me?
18:14 <smoothice> ct|kyle: nah I just cannot get a trunk  client to work well and luke-jr 's stuff isn't working which my stuff depends on
18:14 <ct|kyle> ah
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18:19 <Concord> hoi Ashitaka
18:24 <epsy> wrtlprnft, are there probems with marvin? it's taking a lot of time to connect on ssh
18:24 <epsy> wrtlprnft, and did you try it with anything else than instagib?
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18:30 <Corn1> #time
18:30 <@armabot> Corn1: 06:30 PM, March 01, 2009
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18:34 <epsy> z-man, what settings do you use for ladle?
18:34 <z-man> The one by durka, plus shuffling for everyone.
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18:42 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r869 Another language add
18:42 <epsy> @aawikis ndescriptors
18:42 <teabot> epsy: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=List_of_nDescriptors - List of nDescriptors - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
18:43 <epsy> what is descriptor 12 ?
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18:47 <z-man> version override.
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18:48 <z-man> Sent as first mesage in a ping packet, for example, to tell the receiver the version of the sender.
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18:52 <Concord> #armagetron.tourneys
18:53 <joda_bot> Concord: ?
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19:00  * nsh22 is here!
19:00 <Concord> ct|kyle is ct ladle 1 available if we need it
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19:02 <Concord> P4 is ct ladle 1 available if we need it?
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19:08 <epsy> #time
19:08 <@armabot> epsy: 07:08 PM, March 01, 2009
19:09 <epsy> #gmtime
19:09 <epsy> gah
19:09 <epsy> #apropos time
19:09 <@armabot> epsy: ctime and time
19:13 <freak0o> flex: I'm at the server,,, promote whenever u like,, I'm afk for about 20 minutes though
19:14 <Flex> ok, i'll do it soon
19:14 <freak0o> To all:   If a ladle server crashes etc...
19:14 <freak0o> I set a server called  :  LADLE SERVER (BACKUP) online
19:14 <freak0o> just ask for admin if its needed
19:16 <Concord> ok
19:16 <Concord> thats nice freak
19:16 <pikey> #ls then00b
19:17 <@armabot> pikey: timed out
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19:20 <Concord> G5, should we use freakos, smooth's is lagging weirdly
19:22 <Concord> G5, sunny, can we use Z-Man's Ladle Backup
19:22 <epsy> now, please avoid using bots to list players on public channels, this applies to both #armagetron and #armagetron.tourneys
19:22 <epsy> (Ladle)
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19:23 <pruWord> hi all
19:24 <pruWord> just here to tell you we can play :P
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19:24 <Concord> G5?
19:25 <G5> Sure. I would prefer it
19:25 <Concord> ok
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19:25 <Concord> z-man could i please get team leader status on z-mans ladle back up
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19:27 <Concord> z-man could i please get team leader status on z-mans ladle back up
19:27 <z-man> your ID being?
19:27 <Concord> Concord@ct
19:27 <Concord> thanks
19:28 <nsh22> anybody from vcl in here>?
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19:29 <sunny> concord?
19:29 <Concord> yeah?
19:29 <sunny> new server?
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19:29 <Concord> we're both there
19:29 <sunny> yea :p
19:29 <sunny> the others told it me
19:29 <sunny> ^^
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19:37 <nsh22> hey all
19:38 <sinewav> hi
19:38 <epsy> Please avoid using bots on public channels to list players (Ladle). This applies to both #armagetron and #armagetron.tourneys . Use /query teabot or /query armabot instead.
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19:44 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r875 One file moved and one deleted....
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19:46 <Flex> is Ladle 18 settings same as the 19th settings?
19:47 <freak0o> flex can u unban me?
19:47 <Flex> urm k
19:47 <freak0o> wrong command got me kicked
19:47 <Flex> lol
19:47 <Flex> what command?
19:47 <freak0o> :)
19:47 <freak0o> kick -_-
19:47 <freak0o> wrong user number
19:47 <Flex> user/ip
19:48 <Flex> try now
19:48 <freak0o> freako /
19:48 <freak0o> still banned
19:49 <Flex> try now?
19:49 <freak0o> yup, ty
19:49 <epsy> he wanted to give himself 100 points
19:49 <dlh> Ladle subculture running: generalconsumption.org, port 4533
19:50 <epsy> but typed kick freak0o -100
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19:56 <freak0o> nice 2 vs 8
19:56 <epsy> good luck
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19:57 <freak0o> we torped the first 4 rounds lol
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20:05 <nsh22> nw lost
20:05 <nsh22> wl*
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20:06 <freak0o> dev null also lost
20:07 <nsh22> is this the very last ladle?
20:07 <freak0o> arrow vs Dev/Null  2-0
20:07 <nsh22> oh yeah, wL vs Twisted Rats
20:07 <nsh22> TR 2-0 wL
20:07 <smoothice> nsh22: #armagetron-tourneys
20:09 <freak0o> lol
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20:09 <freak0o> Dev/Null is annoyed lol
20:09 <nsh22> lol
20:10 <freak0o> they find it annoying that we hole when its 8 vs 2
20:10 <freak0o> we just want to win fast. so that we could train -_-
20:10 <nsh22> who has the 2?
20:10 <freak0o> dev null...
20:10 <nsh22> if it was 8 holing against 2 thats just plain bad ettiet
20:11 <freak0o> its bad ettiquete to show up with 2...
20:11 <nsh22> meh
20:13 <luke-jr> lulz
20:13 <nsh22> any1 up for ladle yandere?
20:14 <luke-jr> z-man: don't we already have optional stuff that requires hw accel? O.o
20:14 <nsh22> ]yandere
20:14 <ljrbot> A yandere game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "]yandere" to join.
20:14  * nsh22 is addicted
20:14 <luke-jr> smoothice: my stuff works fine :p
20:14 <freak0o> yandere?
20:15 <freak0o> whats that ?
20:15 <nsh22> type ]yandere
20:15 <nsh22> a game
20:15 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
20:15 <nsh22> ]yandere extend
20:15 <ljrbot> Added another waiting extension.
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20:16 <nsh22> freako, play
20:16 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
20:16 <nsh22> ]yandere extend
20:16 <ljrbot> Added another waiting extension.
20:16 <luke-jr> nsh22: ladle yandere? O.o
20:16 <luke-jr> ]yandere end
20:16 <ljrbot> The yandere game game has been forced to end.
20:16 <luke-jr> ]yandere start theme=twg
20:16 <nsh22> even better
20:17 <ljrbot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "]yandere" to join.
20:17 <freak0o> flex: ? u got ur team rdy?
20:17 <nsh22> ]yandere
20:17 <Flex> yes, we're at my server.. but we agree all to move to z-mans?
20:17 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
20:17 <nsh22> ]yandere extend
20:17 <ljrbot> Added another waiting extension.
20:18 <luke-jr> nsh22: maybe I should send it to the Ladle server :D
20:18 <nsh22> o0
20:18 <nsh22> which one?
20:18 <freak0o> I agree
20:18 <nsh22> luke-jr: which server is it?
20:18 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
20:18 <freak0o> is it empty?
20:18 <nsh22> i wanna see this in action on tron
20:18 <nsh22> ]yandere extend
20:18 <ljrbot> Added another waiting extension.
20:19 <luke-jr> nsh22: no idea
20:19 <nsh22> oh...
20:19 <nsh22> is there a "ladle lounge" server?
20:19 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
20:19 <nsh22> and can you send the gamne to specific servers?
20:20 <luke-jr> nsh22: yeah
20:20 <luke-jr> ]yandere extend
20:20 <ljrbot> Added another waiting extension.
20:20 <z-man> luke-jr: yes, there's the headlights. But they're quite isolated and even need to be compiled in optionally. Quite a different caliber :)
20:20 <luke-jr> z-man: I thought we had bouncing 1s and 0s
20:20 <ljrbot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "]yandere" to join.
20:20 <Flex> no it's not free freak0o
20:20 <nsh22> why dont ou play luke?
20:20 <Flex> so just come to my server
20:21 <freak0o> we play at urs?
20:21 <Flex> yes
20:21 <Flex> come
20:21 <freak0o> it times-out like crazy there
20:21 <Flex> well, we can't do much
20:21 <Flex> unless there's a server we can use
20:21 <freak0o> maybe we can use mine
20:21 <ljrbot> There aren't enough players to start the Worm Game. Try again later.
20:21 <nsh22> smooths?
20:21 <Flex> and that's absed?
20:21 <Flex> based
20:22 <freak0o> based?
20:22 <Flex> in which country
20:22 <Flex> urm i think CT Ladle 2 is empty
20:22 <freak0o> london host by luke-jr
20:22 <Flex> same host as mine freako..
20:22 <freak0o> i dont want to play at CT2... it kicked 4 of my people last ladle
20:22 <freak0o> then urs...
20:22 <Flex> Any CT Ladle 2 admin here?
20:23 <smoothice> ct|kyle is
20:23 <freak0o> lol we refuse to play at CT2 :)
20:23 <Flex> why?
20:23 <Flex> why did it kick?
20:23 <freak0o> freak0o i dont want to play at CT2... it kicked 4 of my people last ladle  /// It auto kicks olive
20:24 <Flex> fine
20:24 <Flex> just come to mine then
20:24 <luke-jr> >_<
20:24 <freak0o> netobject errors for him every 2 rounds
20:24 <luke-jr> nsh22: Yandere played in #anime right now fyi
20:25 <nsh22> ty luke
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20:25 <hoop2> .
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20:26 <Concord> feak0o did your opponent show up?
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20:26 <luke-jr> hoop fails
20:26 <freak0o> only 2 people
20:27 <Concord> ok
20:27 <Concord> did you play or forfeit?
20:27 <freak0o> we did play
20:27 <freak0o> but holed every round.....
20:27 <Concord> ok
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20:35 <Concord> I need admin in ct ladle 2
20:36 <Concord> ct|kyle
20:37 <ct|kyle> Concord: lalde 1 you mean?
20:37 <Concord> where ID and PRu are
20:37 <Concord> yeah
20:38 <ct|kyle> Concord: that all
20:38 <Concord> thy
20:38 <Concord> yes
20:38 <ct|kyle> ok
20:39 <ct|kyle> I'll try to remember to add you to the list
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20:42 <Concord> mayhem
20:42 <Concord> ID v pru
20:42 <Concord> pru thought it was best of 1
20:42 <Concord> and left
20:42 <Concord> ID then though oh we lot
20:42 <Concord> *lost
20:42 <Concord> and left
20:43 <nsh22> lol
20:43 <ct|kyle> I'm not sure what is wrong with ladle 1
20:44 <ct|kyle> 2*
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20:57 <nsh22> wow, is laggingh my comp, just like the alphas
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20:58 <ct|kyle> nsh22: lag is a myth it is only in your mind
20:58 <nsh22> when my music suddenly plays slower?
20:58 <cpayan> heh ct|kyle
20:59 <nsh22> my music honestly slows down when i bring the client up
20:59 <cpayan> maybe it's the remix :)
20:59 <cpayan> sorry, i can't help
20:59 <nsh22> no
21:00 <Concord> idk
21:01 <nsh22> ...
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21:04 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r9089 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. MacOS/Armagetron Advanced.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj): Daniel Lee Harple: One file moved and one deleted.
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21:08 <Concord> epsy any luck?
21:12 <Flex> kod 2 - 0 arrow
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21:13 <freako> KOD vs ARROW  2 - 0
21:13 <Flex> freako
21:13 <Flex> talk to Lucifer
21:13 <Flex> oops
21:13 <Flex> luke-jr
21:14 <freako> damned... that we fucked that last roiund :P
21:14 <freako> 5 vs 1,,, 96 - 88 in front xD
21:14 <freako> and we suicided and lost -_-
21:15 <freako> :P
21:16 <Lizmatic> gg arrow
21:16 <akira_arma> man we didnt you hole freako?
21:16 <akira_arma> why*
21:16 <akira_arma> you had one time 3:1
21:16 <akira_arma> and the other 5:1
21:16 <freako> my team is only sumo players
21:16 <akira_arma> lol
21:16 <Lizmatic> then why make a clan with only sumo players
21:16 <freako> because were advancing
21:16  * Lizmatic scratches her head
21:16 <freako> nest ladle u see :)
21:16 <freako> next*
21:16 <Lizmatic> ok :P
21:17 <akira_arma> well when we warmed uo you were pretty done for :)
21:17 <freako> last ladle we made it to 100= 40   100- 30 or so
21:17 <akira_arma> up*
21:17 <Flex> freako, we played really bad
21:17 <freako> we also :/
21:17 <Flex> i'd say my expected team performance was second round
21:17 <freako> our great attacker wasnt there :/
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21:18 <freako> but u just were far better + more xperience ofcourse :)
21:18 <akira_arma> who won ct vs tr?
21:20 <Flex> CT
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21:20 <epsy> Concord, still waiting
21:21 <epsy> they are at 1-1 somewhere after 42-42
21:21 <Concord> its 80-60 in 3rd match
21:21 <Concord> epsy: slowest matches ever
21:21 <sinewav> keep the play-by-play coming
21:21 <Concord> they both suck
21:21 <Concord> 82-66
21:22 <Concord> 84-68
21:22 <Concord> 86
21:22 <Concord> 88
21:22 <Concord> id defending 1v1
21:22 <Concord> 96-68
21:23 <epsy> for who?
21:23 <nsh22> the ladle settings arent working on my server (dpont worry its not for ladle, just for me)
21:23 <Concord> 96-68 id
21:23 <Concord> 98
21:24 <Concord> 100
21:24 <Concord> id wins 2-1
21:24 <akira_arma> vs?
21:24 <akira_arma> concord
21:24 <akira_arma> id vs ?
21:24 <epsy> pru
21:24 <Concord> pru
21:24 <akira_arma> ah
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21:29 <JJBean> what's the channel for watching the ladle?
21:30 <epsy> see topic
21:30 <nsh22> #armagetron.tournys
21:31 <arrow> #si cheers
21:31 <@armabot> arrow: [] Cheers! [] The friendly server.: Players (2/12): CDagrip, Player 1
21:32 <noob13> !cheers
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21:41 <@armabot> lpbugs: [336367] Code doesn't compile with RESPAWN_HACK enabled on trunk <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/336367>
21:41 <nsh22> luke-jr: ummm when i try to play inly one map on my server, it goes to some anonamous map (ima ssuming it the default) and doesnt leave it. it says it chages that map but it doesnt...
21:43 <nsh22> any suggestions?
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21:46 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-v2sty] r870 merge from mainline
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21:48 <Lizmatic> koD 96-86 CT
21:48 <Lizmatic> ..
21:48 <Lizmatic> no, the other way around
21:50 <Concord> ty
21:50 <dlh> kod 0 - 1 ct
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21:57 <Corn1> hey x ladle fort is full so unless you got a new admin i cant get in
21:59  * nsh22 fixed the problem
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22:01 <Lizmatic> KoD 1-1 CT
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22:18 <nsh22> luke-jr: on your servers, for the map rotator, does that have a multi mode function in which you can choose which map and settings you want?
22:19 <Lizmatic> KoD beat CT!
22:19 <Vanhayes> grats
22:19 <nsh22> wd to kod
22:20 <Vanhayes> who else is in the finals?
22:20 <Lizmatic> no idea
22:20 <Lizmatic> x?
22:20 <MaZuffeR> x or plus
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22:21 <nsh22> yo
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22:35 <nsh22> #m smoothice: what do you think about a multimode server instead of my ctfs server
22:35 <@armabot> nsh22: The operation succeeded.
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22:43 <@armabot> lpbugs: [336397] trunk segfaults when timing out from a server <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/336397>
22:47 <BabyBug> FIX! :@
22:54 <Flex> #fuck you
22:54 <Flex> #armabot sucks
22:54 <Vanhayes> #eliza Go fuck yourself
22:54 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Are you afraid of sex?
22:54 <Flex> #eliza Go fuck yourself
22:55 <Vanhayes> #eliza you caught me
22:55 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Why do you say i caught you?
22:55 <Vanhayes> #eliza talk to Flex
22:55 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Why do you say talk to flex?
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23:53 <Concord> congrats
23:53 <akira_arma> concord: who was center ?
23:53 <epsy> Plus used hacks ;)
23:53 <Concord> um
23:54 <Concord> theodore roosevelt
23:54 <akira_arma> 3750 = ?
23:54 <epsy> who was redwood?
23:54 <akira_arma> whats with that silly secrecy
23:54 <Concord> adlai stevenson
23:54 <akira_arma> --
23:55 <Flex> Concord
23:56 <Flex> i don't like the fact that one of your members seems to keep harrasing someone
23:56 <Flex> and to do it in the ladle again
23:56 <Your_mom_arma> mind games is boring lets play hungry hungry hippos
23:56 <Flex> did you see that Concord?
23:56 <epsy> Flex, ms_nus ?
23:57 <Concord> its not "my player"
23:57 <epsy> at least reveal who it is so we can deal with him directly
23:58 <Lizmatic> Concord isn't plus mainly your team?
23:58 <Flex> yes.. it's totally not acceptable.. i didn't see as there was too much spam and stuff
23:58 <Concord> its not my team
23:58 <Lizmatic> ok, anyway
23:58 <Flex> who's team is it?
23:58 <guru3> this arcade machien and the train thing... that sort of stuff should go on the site
23:58 <Lizmatic> next time theyre going to get kicked.
23:58 <Flex> are you not in the team? it counts as being in your team
23:59 <epsy> well, you started the wiki page Concord

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