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--- Day changed Mon Feb 02 2009
00:01 <viper> [URL=http://img523.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tronerrorpsdv2.png][IMG]http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/1906/tronerrorpsdv2.th.png[/IMG][/URL]
00:01 <Flex> not like that viper..
00:01 <Flex> http://img523.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tronerrorpsdv2.png
00:01 <nsh22> images dont work on here viper
00:02 <Flex> http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/5850/20x75tmphh1.jpg
00:02 <Flex> explain your problem viper
00:03 <viper> i cant open up tron and this error keeps poping up and i have do idea how to solve this problem :(
00:03 <Flex> guess it's to do with your language setting, british is missing
00:04 <Flex> tried deleting user.cfg file in ..\Application Data\Armagetron\var?
00:04 <viper> no ill try now
00:05 <viper> doesnt work same message pops up
00:06 <Flex> Text Services and Input Languages in Control Panel, check if it's set to English - UK
00:06 <Flex> apart from that, then i don't know
00:09 <nsh22> ugh, how do i copy files from launchpad (throught bzr) to my bazaar folder?
00:09 <viper> yep english uk
00:09 <nsh22> i.e. whats the command
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00:11 <animuson> hey i installed hoop's patch, but i need help with something
00:11 <animuson> whenever someone reaches the zone it sends out "player_reach_race" and at the end "player_win_race"
00:12 <animuson> what do I do to change these messages?
00:12 <smoothice> Look in the source, animuson.
00:12 <smoothice> It's probably just something hoop used to debug it.
00:12 <animuson> i found them as variables
00:12 <animuson> but theyre not defined anywhere
00:12 <smoothice> with a $?
00:12 <smoothice> $player_reach_race
00:12 <animuson> yea with a $
00:12 <smoothice> in the source
00:12 <smoothice> oh
00:12 <smoothice> then
00:13 <nsh22> umm for patching, i know that + mean add and - means delete, but where do i actually put the lines? does it say?
00:13 <smoothice> you need to define them in the english language file
00:13 <smoothice> animuson: you need to define them in the english language file
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00:13 <smoothice> animuson: and recompile
00:13 <animuson> :-/
00:13 <smoothice> ????
00:13 <animuson> why cant these things be changed without recompiling >_>
00:13 <animuson> lol
00:13 <smoothice> Do I need to make a patch for this for you or can you do it yourself?
00:14 <animuson> do what?
00:14 <animuson> put it in the language file?
00:14 <smoothice> nevermind
00:14 <smoothice> yeah
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00:14 <animuson> i should be good :P
00:14 <smoothice> just edit the file <armagetronsrcfolder>/language/english_base.txt
00:14 <smoothice> and
00:14 <animuson> can u put their username in it tho?
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00:14 <smoothice> You'll need to put proxy variables in
00:14 <smoothice> yeah
00:15 <smoothice> \1
00:15 <smoothice> animuson: so It'd be like this
00:15 <smoothice> \1 reached the target for \2 points.
00:16 <smoothice> \1 and \2 will be defined in gRace.cpp
00:16 <animuson> cool
00:16 <smoothice> so you got it?
00:16 <animuson> yea
00:16 <smoothice> alright
00:17 <animuson> now to go find my configure line again >_>
00:17 <animuson> i should just write it out on a sticky note
00:17 <smoothice> lol
00:17 <smoothice> I have one you can use lol
00:18 <animuson> ./configure --prefix=/etc/arma --disable-glout --enable-automakedefaults --disable-sysinstall --disable-etc --disable-useradd --disable-initscripts --enable-armathentication CXXFLAGS=-DMAXCLIENTS=32
00:18 <animuson> is it better than that?
00:18 <smoothice> hah
00:18 <smoothice> meh
00:18 <smoothice> no
00:18 <smoothice> No armathenication
00:18 <smoothice> :P
00:18 <smoothice> worse
00:18 <animuson> i want to build a custom login script
00:18 <smoothice> That's the one that PinkTomato uses
00:18 <animuson> to use my own database
00:18 <smoothice> you have to make your own authentication authority
00:18 <smoothice> using an HTTP server
00:19 <animuson> i have an HTTP server >_>
00:19 <smoothice> then use this to make an auth authority
00:19 <smoothice> https://code.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/trunk-http-auth-server-work
00:19 <animuson> will this work with hoop's patch?
00:20 <smoothice> hoop's patch has nothing to do with armathenication
00:20 <smoothice> and
00:20 <smoothice> that http auth server is not a patch for armagetronad
00:20 <smoothice> It's for Apache I think
00:20 <luke-jr> more likely PHP
00:20 <smoothice> It uses htaccess
00:20 <smoothice> which is apache
00:20 <luke-jr> it does?
00:20 <smoothice> yeah
00:20 <smoothice> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Earmagetronad-dev/armagetronad/trunk-http-auth-server-work/annotate/head%3A/.htaccess
00:20 <luke-jr> smoothice: want to help me test Yandere?
00:21 <smoothice> luke-jr: no thank you
00:21 <animuson> yea i have apache, php, and everything else
00:21 <smoothice> luke-jr: I'm working on some unfinished homework
00:21 <smoothice> animuson: ok good
00:22 <animuson> will this other one override the original armathentication?
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00:24 <animuson> is there a readme or anything for it?
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00:30 <animuson> what do you do with these files?
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00:34 <nsh22> hey concord
00:34 <Concord> hi
00:35 <animuson> smoothice?
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00:51 <PinkTomato> #weather oxford, UK
00:51 <@armabot> PinkTomato: The current temperature in Oxford, United Kingdom is 28.9°F (11:48 PM GMT on February 01, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 26.6°F. Windchill: 24.8°F. Pressure: 29.38 in 994.8 hPa (Falling).
00:51 <animuson> is it possible to disable the built-in ladder that runs with the server?
00:52 <PinkTomato> #cfg2 LADDER
00:52 <animuson> tick tock
00:52 <@armabot> PinkTomato: CONSOLE_LADDER_LOG: Sends ladder log output to the console || LADDERLOG_DECORATE_TIMESTAMP: Decorates every line of ladderlog output with the current date and time || LADDERLOG_GAME_TIME_INTERVAL: ladderlog_game_time_interval_help || LADDERLOG_WRITE_ADMIN_COMMAND: ladderlog_write_admin_command_help || LADDERLOG_WRITE_ADMIN_LOGIN: ladderlog_write_admin_login_help || (11 more messages)
00:54 <animuson> is it LADDER_HIGHSCORE_OUTPUT?
00:55 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r876 Added framework for translating messages for older receivers...
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00:56 <smoothice> #llog highscore
00:56 <@armabot> smoothice: Sorry, no matches :S
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01:25 <nsh22> what file(s) would determine the cycles position on the map?
01:25 <smoothice> nsh22: what do you mean
01:25 <smoothice> nsh22: spawn points?
01:25 <nsh22> no
01:25 <nsh22> the cycles postion on the map as in the point at which it is on at any given time
01:26 <nsh22> this is for my ramps
01:36 <smoothice> Ohhh
01:36 <smoothice> gCycle.cpp
01:36 <nsh22> ...
01:36 <nsh22> ok
01:36 <smoothice> If the cycle's position is based on X, Y,Z
01:36 <nsh22> yes
01:36 <smoothice> you'll need to work with the Z parametter
01:36 <nsh22> which folder owuld that be under
01:37 <nsh22> ya i thoght so
01:37 <smoothice> tron
01:37 <smoothice> tron/gCycle.cpp
01:37 <nsh22> z us ip and sown correct?
01:37 <smoothice> ????????
01:37 <smoothice> remember the coordinate plane?
01:37 <smoothice> X, Y
01:37 <smoothice> Z is depth
01:37 <nsh22> "z" is the up and down plane?
01:37 <smoothice> yeah
01:37 <nsh22> ok
01:38 <nsh22> where is tron folder?
01:38 <nsh22> source?
01:38 <nsh22> found it
01:38 <smoothice> src
01:38 <smoothice> src/tron
01:38 <smoothice> yeah
01:39 <nsh22> whats the diff between a header and a c++ file?
01:42 <smoothice> a header file
01:42 <smoothice> defines all the stuff
01:42 <smoothice> the Cpp file is the implementation of it all
01:42 <nsh22> it looks all like gibberish to me :)
01:42 <smoothice> lol
01:42  * nsh22 sighs
01:42 <smoothice> header files are bad
01:43 <smoothice> look at gCycle.cpp
01:43 <nsh22> i am
01:43 <smoothice> k
01:43 <nsh22> ...... who had too much time his hands to do this?
01:43 <nsh22> he had a lot of it
01:44 <smoothice> wh odid
01:44 <smoothice> who did
01:44 <smoothice> lol
01:44 <nsh22> z-man i think did
01:44 <nsh22> lol : // describes walls we like. We like enemy walls. We like to go between them.
01:44 <nsh22> lol
01:45 <nsh22> small sentences ftw
01:46 <nsh22> wtf is a hug replacement?
01:47 <nsh22> this could prove useful :// determine survival chances in the four directions
01:48 <nsh22> fack  i think that all i was reading wa for when the cycle goes ai (i.e. chatbot)
01:48 <nsh22> FACK
01:54 <nsh22> #armagetron-0.3-ramps
01:59 <smoothice> ?
01:59 <nsh22> my new channel
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01:59 <smoothice> k
01:59 <nsh22> and i think i neede the gCycleMovement c++ file
02:00 <smoothice> yah
02:01 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+pvp] r892 match_end_pvp and other various fixes
02:01 <nsh22> smoothice: : btw, i saw your house on launchpad lol. i was setting my location and sawyours
02:01 <nsh22> you dont live all that far from me probably only 600km
02:02 <nsh22> give or take
02:02 <smoothice> nsh22: I live in Denver but that's downtown and I live no where near downtown
02:02 <nsh22> lol oh on
02:02 <nsh22> ok*
02:02 <smoothice> nice try lol
02:02 <nsh22> north of it?
02:02 <smoothice> I'm not telling
02:02 <smoothice> -.-
02:02 <nsh22> lol
02:02 <nsh22> good idea
02:03 <nsh22> BabyBug stalks ppl
02:03 <nsh22> lol jk
02:05 <smoothice> lol
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02:14 <nsh22> i understand some of this because i see certain things like the grid size, but other than the stuff in the configs, im stumped
02:15 <nsh22> i need to learn more c++
02:15 <nsh22> smoothice: do you think that if i made visuals, would that help people see more of what i would like to see happen?
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02:18 <luke-jr> nsh22: #yandere-test
02:19 <luke-jr> smoothice: wanna help?
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02:20 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: #yandere-test plz
02:20 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: planning to release 0.2.0 tonight
02:21 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: 5 minutes
02:24 <smoothice> ct|kyle: both match_start_pvp and match_end_pvp are working!
02:24 <smoothice> ct|kyle: w00t!
02:25 <nsh22> wd
02:26 <ct|kyle> nice smoothice
02:27 <ct|kyle> few my CPU is still staying at same temp, I removed some of the thermal paste, hoping to put more on
02:27 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: it's been 5 mins
02:27 <ct|kyle> #yandere-test
02:27 <ct|kyle> ...
02:27 <luke-jr> it's a channel…
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02:28 <ct|kyle> you should have said /join then
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02:33 <neal_arma> hey concord
02:33 <Concord> heya
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02:40 <nsh22> zomg, my lagtest accpunt is facked...
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02:42 <nsh22> nvm my bad
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03:01 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+pvp] r893 Moved english text to english_base and other various tweaks
03:02 <nsh22> bb
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04:04 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+pvp] r894 removed setting change hack and replaced with standard
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05:21 <s0beit> hey guys
05:22 <s0beit> ct|kyle, i have a fun idea i want to see if it could happen
05:23 <s0beit> In high rubber, i was hoping that i could make a server that when someone dies, instead of being in spec and watching the others play, they teleport to a private room
05:23 <s0beit> and when the main players that are still left in the main arena are done, everyone starts back in the main room to battle
05:23 <s0beit> is something like that possible?  oO
05:28 <s0beit> #seen ct|kyle
05:28 <@armabot> s0beit: ct|kyle was last seen in #armagetron 3 hours and 20 seconds ago: <ct|kyle> you should have said /join then
05:28 <s0beit> awww
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06:17 <ct|kyle> #m s0beit possible, but a lot of work, and what if they die in the second arena?
06:17 <@armabot> ct|kyle: The operation succeeded.
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06:29 <Lucifer> fucking hard drive crashed :(
06:31 <luke-jr> :o
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06:32 <Lucifer> means my resume is offline right now :(
06:33  * Lucifer is waiting to see if his server hard drive will boot
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06:54 <Lucifer> man, I don't want to deal with this tonight :(
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06:55 <epsy> the hard drive crashed? ew :x
07:00 <Lucifer> desktop hard drive crashed, and I still hadn't finished setting up the server
07:00 <Lucifer> so now my website is offline again, and i don't know if I'll be able to recover the most recent version :(
07:00 <Lucifer> damn server hard drive won't boot with a particular network card in it, so I guess I'm going to get a liveCD and try with that
07:01 <Lucifer> can probably at least get the files off the old hard drive to a safe place, but this will probably be a multi-day project now :(
07:01 <Lucifer> and I just tossed all my liveCDs
07:01 <Lucifer> heh
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07:03 <luke-jr> ]yandere start theme=twg
07:03 <YandereBot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "]yandere" to join.
07:03 <luke-jr> :þ
07:04 <luke-jr> aw nobody
07:04 <luke-jr> fine, I go to bed then x.x
07:04 <luke-jr> ]yandere end
07:04 <YandereBot> The Worm Game game has been forced to end.
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07:32 <epsy> I'm starting to wonder..do we really need an #armagetron.mods channel?
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08:19 <wrtlprnft> o_O, we have an #armagetron.mods channel/aw
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11:21 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r878 Converted whole ePlayer messages to protobufs.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r877 Refactored old message conversion framework to generate less...
11:41 <wrtlprnft> woot, arma supports 4294967295 players :-D
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12:25 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1009 Fixed rare wallpassing bug; it required what whould usually ... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1008 Fixed rare wallpassing bug; it required what whould usually ... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r879 Fixed some assertion failures....
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13:30 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r829 Fixed StrPos read-over-end crash. Should have been merged fr...
13:31 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8939 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/tron/gCycle.cpp):
13:31 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
13:31 <@armabot> armagetronad: Fixed rare wallpassing bug; it required what whould usually be an
13:31 <@armabot> armagetronad: instakill and infinte wall length.
13:32 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8940 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. NEWS):
13:32 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
13:32 <@armabot> armagetronad: Fixed rare wallpassing bug; it required what whould usually be an
13:32 <@armabot> armagetronad: instakill and infinte wall length.
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13:36 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8941 /armagetronad/trunk/ (. armagetronad/NEWS armagetronad/src/tron/gCycle.cpp): (log message trimmed)
13:36 <@armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 8937 to 8940:
13:36 <@armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
13:36 <@armabot> armagetronad:  r8940 | bazaarmagetron | 2009-02-02 13:32:11 +0100 (Mon, 02 Feb 2009) | 4 lines
13:37 <@armabot> armagetronad:  r8939 | bazaarmagetron | 2009-02-02 13:31:12 +0100 (Mon, 02 Feb 2009) | 4 lines
13:37 <@armabot> armagetronad:  author: Manuel Moos
13:37 <@armabot> armagetronad:  Fixed rare wallpassing bug; it required what whould usually be an
14:34 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r884 Clients 0.2.6 and 0.2.7 now at least see their own chat corr... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r883 Bit more cleanup and renaming.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r882 Implemented chat message translation and cut down the chat m... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r881 Gave chat descriptors better names.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r880 some nStr
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14:43 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8942 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/tools/tString.cpp): (log message trimmed)
14:43 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Bazaarmagetron
14:43 <@armabot> armagetronad: Automatic merging of commits that would change history order:
14:43 <@armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------
14:43 <@armabot> armagetronad:  revno: 828.1.1
14:43 <@armabot> armagetronad:  committer: Manuel Moos <z-man@users.sf.net>
14:43 <@armabot> armagetronad:  branch nick: armagetronad
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15:37 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r885 Merge from trunk... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r830 Automatic merging of commits that would change history order... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r829 Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 8937 to 8940:... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] Fixed StrPos read-over-end crash. Should have been merged fr...
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16:03 <s0beit> #ls sobeit
16:03 <@armabot> s0beit: -=VcL.SoBeiT has last been seen on The YELLOW Submarine 35 minutes ago.
16:07 <s0beit> #seen wrtl
16:07 <@armabot> s0beit: wrtl was last seen in #armagetron 40 weeks, 2 days, 22 hours, 24 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: <wrtl> great, you can't rename to everyone
16:07 <s0beit> xD
16:07 <s0beit> #seen wrtlprnft
16:07 <@armabot> s0beit: wrtlprnft was last seen in #armagetron 4 hours, 25 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <wrtlprnft> woot, arma supports 4294967295 players :-D
16:07 <s0beit> :(
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16:22 <wrtlprnft> #seen deja_vu
16:22 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: deja_vu was last seen in #armagetron 32 weeks, 5 days, 17 hours, 33 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: <deja_vu> sleep well :)
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16:41 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r831 Don't insert function key events in uMenuItemString. Fixes b... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r887 Ported event notification to protocol buffers.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r886 Ported config system to protobufs....
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16:51 <epsy> wrtlprnft, #armagetron-0.3-sty
16:53 <wrtlprnft> you're not even in that #
16:54 <epsy> no, I'm not
16:56 <wrtlprnft> let's see, me, two bots, one guy who doesn't help anyone, and two other random gits…
16:56 <epsy> 07:32 <epsy> I'm starting to wonder..do we really need an #armagetron.mods channel?
16:56 <epsy> 08:19 <wrtlprnft> o_O, we have an #armagetron.mods channel/aw
16:57 <wrtlprnft> that was supposed to be a question
16:57 <wrtlprnft> just the return key magically changed into a backspace when i was pressing it
16:58 <luke-jr> I am not random -.-
16:58 <wrtlprnft> i didn't say that
16:58 <wrtlprnft> ;-)
16:58 <Flex> haha :p
16:58 <wrtlprnft> choose freely :-P
16:58 <luke-jr> I'm not a bot either.
16:58 <wrtlprnft> heh
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17:45 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r889 Fixed crash when a message with expired cache reference was ... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r888 Removed silly n,e,t,g prefix from protobuf classes, they alr...
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18:35 <G5> Im a Debian noob. How do I list/download software packages? Shell only.
18:35 <ct|kyle> apt-ca<tab> search
18:36 <ct|kyle> sudo in front
18:36 <dlh> download, as in install?
18:37 <G5> yep ... apt-cache works so far ... thx
18:37 <ct|kyle> then apt-get install to install
18:37 <G5> looks good. thx
18:43 <ct|kyle> *** G5 just got a VPS ***
18:43 <G5> Kinda ...
18:44 <G5> More like a VVPS :)
18:49 <P4> G5: aptitude
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19:19 <|z10n|> hi everyone
19:19 <G5> Sunny!
19:20 <sunny> g5!!! :D
19:20 <|z10n|> geefive!!!
19:20 <|z10n|> sunny!!!
19:20 <G5> Zion!
19:20 <sunny> omg ein zion
19:20 <|z10n|> :D
19:20 <|z10n|> does anyone know the color code for the white bike on team sumo around here?
19:20 <|z10n|> ping
19:21 <|z10n|> pong
19:22 <ct|kyle> 000
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19:22 <ct|kyle> wait 15 15 15
19:23 <|z10n|> i'll try that, ty, kyle
19:24 <|z10n|> hrm thats the second white bike i guess. first one has a light purple/ iceblue touch
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19:56 <BabyBug> #tea
19:56 <@armabot> BabyBug: Fortress Café: Players (11/32): *whisper*, BabyBug, ct|Puuquie, metaz, noob44, NooB_saibot, pike, Ww_Compguygene, ~|DST|~AshitakA, ¦×¦ Hoax, °öMhü
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20:04 <madmax> #ss café
20:04 <@armabot> madmax: Fortress Café (12/32): Team gold (58): *whisper* (12), noob44 (10), NooB_saibot (8), -»|ßäå (2), ~|DST|~AshitakA (0); Team blue (47): ct|Puuquie (20), BabyBug (6), CRaZy B3eR (2), Ww_Compguygene (2), akira (0), |mkb (0)
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20:27 <epsy> G5, so, what fails?
20:27 <G5> One minute pls ... Im starting all over ...
20:28 <G5> epsy: Ok, got the source (from bzr); doing bootstrap now
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20:30 <G5> epsy: Lots of messages on src/doc and non-POSIX variable name
20:31 <G5> epsy: Running configure ... it fails
20:31 <G5> ../configure: line 12972: xml2-config: command not found
20:31 <G5> configure: error: Fatal error: the libxml2 configuration script xml2-config does not work/exist.
20:32 <epsy> install libxml2 ?
20:32 <G5> aehm, yeah ... I think
20:33 <G5> epsy: aptitute says "i libxml2 v2.6.27"
20:34 <epsy> er, debian right?
20:34 <G5> yes
20:34 <epsy> you will need the -dev packages
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20:44 <G5> epsy: Ok, looks better ... building now. Before the Debian apt-get gave me bzr v0.11 ... very funny :(
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20:48 <G5> epsy: Ok, build and install done. Thank you. I'll have to do other things later (firewall, port forwarding, ...) So, no new server now.
20:55 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r893 Implemented protobufs in voting messages.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r892 Fixed fire and forget protobuf message creation, if no recei... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r891 More convenience ID-Pointer conversion functions.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r890 Use const & parameters instead of copy by value....
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21:04 <epsy> anyone for fortress?
21:06 <epsy> no?
21:06 <epsy> right, no
21:07 <ct|kyle> not with you :P
21:07 <epsy> Ok.
21:08 <ct|kyle> no i am actually busy
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21:15 <G5> epsy: One last question: Where/when do I have to specify that I want logins enabled?
21:16 <epsy> ./configure --enable-authentication
21:16 <G5> Is there a list somewhere (with other options)?
21:16 <epsy> z-man, characters seem to not be deleted anymore by tCharacterFilter::FilterString
21:16 <epsy> G5, ./configure --help
21:17 <G5> Ah, sorry, I didnt scroll up far enough :(
21:24 <G5> epsy: Ok ... learnt something else today ... my local server (old europe) has a version now! :)
21:24 <G5> Ok, Im away a bit ... watchin 24
21:25 <epsy> z-man, caught it
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21:30 <epsy> z-man, you were comparing the input char to DEL, instead of the filtered char
21:33 <epsy> r832 pushed
21:41 <nsh22> lol easy question, what is an interesting job that has to do with programming(other than computer programmer)
21:43 <epsy> SCM management
21:44 <epsy> tester
21:44 <nsh22> lol is there any website that describes that position?
21:44 <epsy> @g scm management
21:44 <teabot> epsy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_chain_management - Supply chain management - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
21:44 <epsy> uhm
21:45 <epsy> well, let's say it's the guy who holds and manages the code repo for the dev team
21:45 <nsh22> lol it has to do with compputer programming
21:45 <nsh22> oh
21:45 <epsy> it's a job that is getting obsolete
21:46 <nsh22> any others?
21:46 <epsy> in other words, idk
21:47 <nsh22> i guess i could just say C++ coder or php developer
21:47 <nsh22> its for a project
21:47 <nsh22> i started computer engineering today
21:47 <epsy> what kind of project?
21:47 <epsy> did you read that c++ tutorial?
21:48 <nsh22> im still working on it:)
21:48 <epsy> good
21:48 <nsh22> i havent looked at it for a day or two, but ill probably do some tonite
21:48 <nsh22> im on to operators, or just past that now
21:49 <epsy> operator overloading or .. ?
21:49 <nsh22> no, the basics
21:49 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8944 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/network/nServerInfo.cpp src/tools/tString.cpp): epsy: Fixed characters not being stripped by tCharacterFilter, thus fixed server sorting.
21:49 <nsh22> about operators
21:50 <nsh22> shit, i saved the wrong file....
21:50 <epsy> ok
21:50 <nsh22> ugh
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21:50 <nsh22> i thought i had emailed my prooject outline and i hadnt
21:50 <epsy> [22:47] <epsy>: what kind of project?
21:51 <nsh22> umm, its just about differnt jobs directly related to computer programming
21:51 <nsh22> just a powerpoint
21:51 <epsy> oh
21:51 <nsh22>  i was too busy trying to get freegate to work to go over the outline
21:51 <nsh22> lol
21:52 <nsh22> fucking freegate
21:53 <nsh22> i need to change the timestamp so that it will work for me
21:53 <nsh22> as of jan 1, they only let users from china use it
21:54 <epsy> @misc tell epsy [tea]
21:55  * nsh22 is listening to matisyahu
21:58 <nsh22> how would i change the timestamp on an .exe file?
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22:25 <nsh22> ok back
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22:45 <nsh22> ffs, my dad took a part out of our furnace....
22:45 <nsh22> now we dont have heat...
22:46 <ct|kyle> LOL
22:46 <ct|kyle> what the 12V inverter
22:46 <nsh22> lol hes an HVAC person
22:46  * s0beit laughs
22:46 <nsh22> he does it for  alioving
22:47 <nsh22> its to fix oneo fo his customers furnace
22:47 <ct|kyle> LOL, that explains the electric tape
22:47 <s0beit> ct|kyle, your home!  xD
22:47 <nsh22> XD
22:47 <ct|kyle> oi s0beit
22:47 <s0beit> \o
22:47  * nsh22 is listening to afroman
22:47  * ct|kyle is listening to the oust
22:47 <s0beit> ct|kyle, how good are you with VPS?  I have a quick question
22:47 <ct|kyle> joust*
22:47 <ct|kyle> good :P
22:48 <nsh22> what are vps'?
22:48 <s0beit> Smoothice helped me set up all my servers running sty+ct and I want two of them to use older builds because they are more stable
22:48 <s0beit> how can i do that?
22:49 <ct|kyle> not sure how smoothice set them up for you LOL
22:49 <s0beit> well, now that i think about it, durka set them up for me, smoothice helped
22:49 <ct|kyle> same think LOL
22:49 <ct|kyle> thing*
22:49 <s0beit> anyway, i go into /opt/armagetronad/scripts and there are all my servers
22:50 <ct|kyle> what is in /opt/armagetronad
22:51 <s0beit> scrambled eggs
22:51 <ct|kyle> ls /opt/armagetronad
22:51 <s0beit> bin, etc, logs, scripts, servers, share, and all the logs for all the servers
22:52 <ct|kyle> well i would first get the source code you want someplace
22:53 <s0beit> I want the stable release of .2.8
22:53 <s0beit> i must get it from a .bzr branch?
22:53 <ct|kyle> 0.2.8.1?
22:53 <s0beit> yah
22:54 <ct|kyle> you know that has no authentication
22:54 <s0beit> i know ;)
22:54 <s0beit> But, its what i need for my hr servers
22:54 <s0beit> walls are buggy as hell
22:57 <ct|kyle> you will want to wget http://internap.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/armagetronad/armagetronad-0.2.8.2.1.src.tar.gz
22:58 <s0beit> okie.  now what do i need to do via ssh?
22:58 <ct|kyle> that in SSH, you need it in the vps
22:58  * s0beit is a noob at unix commands
22:59 <s0beit> ull need to explain :P
22:59 <ct|kyle> that will download a compressed file of the source code
22:59 <s0beit> so... i need to go to /opt/armagetronad/scripts and just put that url in?
22:59 <ct|kyle> no
23:00 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r832 Fixed characters not being stripped by tCharacterFilter, thu...
23:00 <ct|kyle> that is all the code uncompiled
23:00 <s0beit> so i just need to go to the root directory and put that url in then?
23:00 <ct|kyle> no
23:01 <ct|kyle> i'd probably mkdir/opt/armagetronad/code
23:01 <ct|kyle> mkdir /opt/armagetronad/code
23:01 <s0beit> ok
23:01 <ct|kyle> then cd /opt/armagetronad/code
23:01 <ct|kyle> then use the wget http://internap.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/armagetronad/armagetronad-0.2.8.2.1.src.tar.gz
23:02 <s0beit> ok i did it
23:02 <ct|kyle> then tar xvf ./armagetronad-0.2.8.2.1.src.tar.gz
23:03 <s0beit> done
23:03 <ct|kyle> then ls and tell me if there are 2 files/folders or more than that i
23:04 <s0beit> root@vcl:/opt/armagetronad/code# ls
23:04 <s0beit> armagetronad-0.2.8.2.1  armagetronad-0.2.8.2.1.src.tar.gz
23:04 <ct|kyle> cd ./armagetronad-0.2.8.2.1
23:04 <s0beit> root@vcl:/opt/armagetronad/code# cd ./armagetronad-0.2.8.2.
23:04 <s0beit> -bash: cd: ./armagetronad-0.2.8.2.: No such file or directory
23:05 <ct|kyle> you forgot the 1 at end
23:05 <s0beit> oi
23:05 <s0beit> kk im there
23:06 <ct|kyle> ls again
23:06 <ct|kyle> tell me only if there is 1 folder
23:06 <s0beit> no, its all unzipped now
23:06 <s0beit> all the files are in there
23:06 <ct|kyle> ok :)
23:07 <s0beit> good?
23:07 <s0beit> xD
23:07 <ct|kyle> ya
23:07 <ct|kyle> no ./boostrap.sh
23:07 <ct|kyle> now*
23:08 <s0beit> root@vcl:/opt/armagetronad/code/armagetronad-0.2.8.2.1# ./boostrap.sh
23:08 <s0beit> -bash: ./boostrap.sh: No such file or directory
23:08 <K-Yo> ls!
23:08 <s0beit> ah!
23:08 <ct|kyle> ./bootstrap
23:08 <ct|kyle> .sh
23:08 <K-Yo> lol
23:08 <K-Yo> "ls" ? =)
23:08 <ct|kyle> i typed it wrong LOL
23:08 <K-Yo> indeed
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23:08 <K-Yo> not boost xD
23:08 <s0beit> lol
23:09 <s0beit> k its done
23:09 <K-Yo> ./configure --with=HAXS
23:09 <dlh> s0beit: You only need to be root to install the game, not when you are compiling/working. Don't get into the habit of doing that :)
23:10 <s0beit> dlh, Is that bad?  If so, why?  oO
23:10 <ct|kyle> ./configure --disable-glout --prefix /opt/armagetronad/bin2/  CXXFLAGS=-DMAXCLIENTS=32
23:10 <ct|kyle> probably something like that
23:10 <ct|kyle> you don't even need root to install
23:10 <s0beit> root@vcl:/opt/armagetronad/code/armagetronad-0.2.8.2.1# ./configure --disable-glout --prefix /opt/armagetronad/bin2/  CXXFLAGS=-DMAXCLIENTS=32
23:10 <s0beit> -bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
23:11 <dlh> depends on where you install it.
23:11 <ct|kyle> ya
23:12 <ct|kyle> but why isent bootstap creating confogure
23:12 <s0beit> ct|kyle, is it config?
23:12 <ct|kyle> configure*
23:12 <ct|kyle> no
23:12 <ct|kyle> i gtg for about 10-15 minutes
23:12 <s0beit> ok
23:13 <dlh> s0beit: are you running on linux?
23:13 <s0beit> yes
23:13 <dlh> and you just want to install the latest stable version?
23:13 <s0beit> yes ;)
23:14 <s0beit> i actually already have some servers set up running sty+ct, but i want two of my servers running the 0.2.8.1
23:14 <dlh> You can use the linux package then. No need to compile from source unless you really want to
23:14 <s0beit> ok, im all eyes dlh :D
23:15 <dlh> and you want MAXCLIENTS 32?
23:15 <s0beit> for now, sure
23:15 <s0beit> but i will end up changing it to 10
23:16 <dlh> Ok. 0.2.8.2.1's linux package has MAXCLIENTS 16. 0.2.8.3 will bump this up to 32. However for now, since you only want 10 it will be fine
23:16 <s0beit> ok
23:16 <s0beit> do i need to go back to the root folder and make a new directory?
23:17 <dlh> The linux package can be downloaded at http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=110997&package_id=119930
23:18 <dlh> So download that, chmod +x armagetronad-dedicated-*.package, and run it
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23:19 <s0beit> ok, i made a directory /opt/armagetronad/hunter1
23:19 <s0beit> and used wget http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=110997&package_id=119930
23:19 <s0beit> now what?
23:20 <dlh> make the downloaded file executable. chmod +x <the-file>
23:21 <s0beit> showfiles.php?group_id=110997 its saying thats the file name?
23:21 <s0beit> 22:18:36 (261.19 KB/s) - `showfiles.php?group_id=110997' saved [31952]
23:21 <dlh> You need to browse to that page and copy the actual download link
23:21 <dlh> that page just has links to the downloads
23:21 <s0beit> ah
23:22 <s0beit> armagetronad-0.2.8.2.1.i686-generic-linux-gnu.package
23:22 <s0beit> is that the one i want?
23:22 <s0beit> the package?
23:22 <dlh> the dedicated one
23:22 <dlh> but yes the .package one
23:23 <s0beit> 22:23:12 (5.55 MB/s) - `armagetronad-dedicated-0.2.8.2.1.i686-generic-linux-gnu.package' saved [1142343/1142343]
23:23 <ct|kyle> http://superb-east.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/armagetronad/armagetronad-dedicated-0.2.8.2.1.i686-generic-linux-gnu.package
23:23 <ct|kyle> wget that
23:23 <s0beit> got it
23:25 <s0beit> what would the filename be though?
23:25 <dlh> wget told you
23:25 <ct|kyle> probably armagetronad-dedicated-0.2.8.2.1.i686-generic-linux-gnu.package
23:25 <s0beit> root@vcl:/opt/armagetronad/hunter1# chmod +x armagetronad-0.2.8.2.1.i686-generic-linux-gnu.package
23:25 <s0beit> chmod: cannot access `armagetronad-0.2.8.2.1.i686-generic-linux-gnu.package': No such file or directory
23:25 <ct|kyle> ls
23:26 <s0beit> ok
23:26 <s0beit> done
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23:29 <s0beit> I tried to cd to armagetronad-dedicated-0.2.8.2.1 but no such file or directory was found
23:29 <dlh> now do ./<the-file> --help and look for the prefix option.
23:29 <dlh> and finally ./<the-file> <options, such as the prefix>
23:30 <s0beit> The installation of this software requires some additional support
23:30 <s0beit> code to be installed.
23:30 <s0beit> A] If the support code is found in a local directory, it will be used.
23:30 <s0beit>    The file containing the support code will be called:
23:30 <s0beit>       "autopackage.tar.bz2"
23:30 <s0beit>  or
23:30 <s0beit> B] If there is an active Internet connection, the support code will be
23:30 <s0beit>    downloaded from:
23:30 <s0beit>       "http://autopackage.org/downloads/latest/autopackage.tar.bz2"
23:31 <s0beit>    Proxy users should ensure the http_proxy environment variable is
23:31 <s0beit>    set, otherwise the download may fail.
23:31 <s0beit> Selection B --> OK to download and install support code now?
23:31 <dlh> What OS are you on?
23:31 <s0beit> ubuntu
23:32 <dlh> and armagetronad-dedicated isn't in apt?
23:32 <dlh> apt-cache search armagetron
23:35 <s0beit> root@vcl:/opt/armagetronad/hunter1# apt-cache search armagetron
23:35 <s0beit> armagetron - Dummy upgrade package for Armagetron
23:35 <s0beit> armagetron-common - Dummy upgrade package for Armagetron
23:35 <s0beit> armagetron-server - Dummy upgrade package for Armagetron
23:35 <s0beit> armagetronad - 3D Tron-like high speed game
23:35 <s0beit> armagetronad-common - Common files for the Armagetron Advanced packages
23:35 <s0beit> armagetronad-dedicated - dedicated game server for Armagetron Advanced
23:35 <s0beit> junior-games-gl - Debian Jr. 3D Games (hardware acceleration required)
23:35 <nsh22> lol could you use a pastebin?
23:35 <dlh> apt-cache show armagetronad-dedicated
23:35 <dlh> and check the version...
23:35 <ct|kyle> shouldent it be installed to a prefix though
23:35 <dlh> don't paste it all here
23:36 <dlh> if you install it through your package manager you don't want a prefix.
23:36 <dlh> unless you installed stuff yourself into /usr, which would be dumb
23:36 <s0beit> Version: 0.2.8.2.1-7
23:36 <dlh> well there you go s0beit  :). apt-get install armagetronad-dedicated
23:36 <dlh> and you're done
23:37 <s0beit> just like that?  oO
23:38 <dlh> I think this article is misleading: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Running_Multiple_Servers_on_a_single_Linux_computer
23:39 <s0beit> dlh, Where are the servers going to be located?
23:39 <dlh> "First of all, you have to install [...] from source. This will allow to manage at will the settings and var directories." <- you can do that when you install through a package manger too
23:39 <dlh> manager*
23:40 <s0beit> dlh, In my sftp program in opt/armagetronad/hunter1 folder all i see are the files i wget and a folder called "tmp130443459"
23:43 <ct|kyle> ya dlh I agree with that article being missleading
23:44 <ct|kyle> I think i'm going to update/or create a new one sometime
23:46 <dlh> s0beit: when you install through apt-get, stuff is put into /usr
23:47 <s0beit> in the root folder?
23:47 <s0beit> because i dont see a /usr in the armagetronad/hunter1 folder
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23:57 <s0beit> ok well i am confused the way we did it dlh.  im trying to follow that wiki now and see if i can do it on my own, but the file i downloaded is a .deb
23:58 <s0beit> i downloaded it from beta.armagetronad.net

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