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00:00 <maclover201> Another question... what file is the declaration of se_GameTime() in?
00:01 <PinkTomato> grep it :)
00:01 <maclover201> oh good idea
00:01 <wrtlprnft> or look at doxygen
00:02 <epsy> is ladle tomorrow or in one week?
00:04 <nsh22> next week i beleive
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00:05 <PinkTomato> maclover201: http://dessert.ath.cx/download/hooppatch.tar
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00:05 <PinkTomato> note: untested :)
00:05 <maclover201> oh, cool
00:05 <maclover201> thx
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00:07 <PinkTomato> maclover201: contrary to what I quickly wrote in the readme, gRace belongs in src/tron
00:07 <maclover201> ok
00:07 <maclover201> thx
00:07 <PinkTomato> well thank hoop, not me :)
00:07 <dlh> PinkTomato: does hoop have a bzr branch with his code?
00:07 <maclover201> nope
00:07 <maclover201> i dont think so
00:07 <PinkTomato> dlh: he does not :(
00:08 <dlh> That's too bad. He should start one up. Makes keeping it current easier, and better to track changes.
00:11 <wrtlprnft> free branches are the great thing about bzr :-)
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00:17 <smoothice> Hey guys!
00:17 <smoothice> come to WW bravo server!
00:17 <smoothice> NW/R tourney!!!!!!!!!!!
00:18 <epsy> wtf is NW/R ?
00:18 <maclover201> Hi smooth!
00:18 <smoothice> nevermind
00:18 <smoothice> hi maclover201
00:18 <smoothice> nevermind
00:18 <smoothice> don't come
00:18 <epsy> a nevermind tourney?
00:18 <smoothice> they are locked it
00:18 <smoothice> yep
00:18 <smoothice> lol
00:18 <epsy> nsh will be winner for sure
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00:24 <luke-jr> need TWG testing again]
00:24 <luke-jr> the commands should work now
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00:43 <@armabot> armacommits: [armagetronad-old-glancing] r753 Merge with trunk...
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01:14 <nsh22> hey hey
01:14 <K-Yo> hi
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01:17 <smoothice> hi
01:17 <luke-jr> o hai
01:17  * BabyBug murders luke-jr 
01:17 <smoothice> #roulette
01:17 <@armabot> smoothice: *click*
01:18 <nsh22> lol @ babybug
01:19 <luke-jr> BabyBug: #armaTWGeTRON
01:19 <BabyBug> Bi
01:19 <BabyBug> No*
01:19 <luke-jr> no bi!
01:19 <BabyBug> ><
01:19 <luke-jr> nsh22: ?
01:20 <nsh22> huh?
01:20 <luke-jr> nsh22: #armaTWGeTRON
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01:30 <nsh22> how would i put the code from arma on my bzr branch
01:35 <Flex> luke-jr
01:35 <Flex> here?
01:35 <luke-jr> Flex: no, #armatwgetron
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01:57 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/slyshot/aoi-1.aamap.xml: Resource by slyshot
01:57 <luke-jr> Flex: #armatwgetron
01:58 <Flex> fu
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02:03 <nsh22> wow, htf do i put stuff on my branch?????
02:04 <dlh> bzr push
02:04 <dlh> #rtfm
02:04 <nsh22> ugh
02:04 <nsh22> ill paste bin what it says
02:05 <nsh22> http://pastebin.com/d15421d81
02:07 <dlh> Did you read the error?
02:07 <dlh> It tells you what is wrong
02:10 <nsh22> ?? i entered the right pass and everything
02:10 <dlh> No, read the error message. Every single line of it.
02:11 <nsh22> so passwordarent permitted?
02:15 <dlh> It tells you that :). It also tells you what types of authentication are permitted.
02:15 <nsh22> ...
02:17 <dlh> If you're stumped on this, than I'm sorry. It clearly tells you what's wrong. A quick google search would find the fix.
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02:23 <smoothice> hey guys if I set TEAMS_MAX to 2 and team_max_players to 1 then how does the server decide who gets spectated?
02:26 <nsh22> wewt it worked
02:26 <nsh22> i needed pageant...
02:28 <luke-jr> you need to be pregnant?
02:28 <nsh22> ....
02:28 <nsh22> yes beacause you know, males can do that
02:30 <smoothice> lol
02:30 <smoothice> luke-jr:if I set TEAMS_MAX to 2 and team_max_players to 1 then how does the server decide who gets spectated?
02:32 <luke-jr> no idea
02:35 <smoothice> k
02:35 <nsh22> whew, i think i did something right for once (prob not  tho)
02:36 <nsh22> luke-jr: is it correct of me to copy the files of the armagetronad thing into my branch?
02:36 <luke-jr> wtf
02:36 <luke-jr> ?
02:37 <nsh22> is this correct for me to have this: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~armagetronad.ramp.developers/armagetronad/0.3-ramp/files
02:37 <luke-jr> …
02:37 <madmax> lp branch frenzy?
02:38 <nsh22> meh
02:38 <madmax> are you serious about trying to make.... ramps?
02:38 <nsh22> yes, in a way. i want to learn how to eventually do it
02:38 <Flex> weirdo
02:38 <nsh22> im learning c++ atm so its hard
02:38 <nsh22> but ill figure something out
02:38 <nsh22> and end up failling epically
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02:40 <maclover201> Hey PinkTomato or whoever helped me earlier - the patch worked, thanks!
02:40 <nsh22> which patch?
02:40 <maclover201> the race countdown patch from hoop
02:40 <nsh22> o0
02:41 <PinkTomato> maclover201: did it come up with race_end strings though?
02:41 <maclover201> What do you mean?
02:41 <PinkTomato> when you reach the winzone
02:41 <maclover201> Yeah
02:42 <maclover201> It gives 5 points to the person who hits it first
02:42 <PinkTomato> the patch goes race_something_something as a console message
02:42 <maclover201> then 3 points to subsequent players
02:42 <PinkTomato> because it is missing something
02:42 <maclover201> player_win_race			\1 was awarded \2 points for winning the race.\n
02:42 <maclover201> player_reach_race			\1 reached the target and got \2 points.\n
02:42 <maclover201> yeah, it works fine
02:42 <maclover201> for me
02:43 <maclover201> the autopatch didn't work, so i had to do it manually >.<
02:43 <PinkTomato> o, well that's good then :). The line numbers were for sty+ct :)
02:44 <PinkTomato> times are outputted to /var/race_temp.txt
02:44 <nsh22> is that all whats wrong with the current patch?
02:44 <maclover201> I am running sty+ct, but when I looked at the patch the line numbers were obviously different. I know that autopatch is smart, but there were some things in there I knew it couldn't do (e.g. different preceding lines, etc.)
02:45 <PinkTomato> nsh22: it was only a quick patch :)
02:46 <PinkTomato> maclover201: Well, it was based upon an old +ct revision :)
02:46 <maclover201> Yeah, I figured that.
02:46 <nsh22> but is the lines all that are wrong
02:47 <luke-jr> playing TWG in ##Linux now ;D
02:47 <madmax> on the road to world domination?
02:48 <maclover201> nsh22: umm, not really. there are some different lines that you must accomodate for.
02:48 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r827 Don't package armagetronad.sfd. Saves 4.8 MB.... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r826 Turn on strip for release builds. Saves approximately 4 MB.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r868 Begun work on control messages.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r867 Separated SyncIsNew back out into its own function, that mak... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r825 Remove .in files from reso
02:48 <maclover201> one thing thats cool about hoop's patch is that it enables deathzone rubber
02:49 <maclover201> which allows deathzones to act as rubberzones
02:49 <maclover201> of course, that's already in sty+ct.
02:49 <maclover201> lol :)
02:49 <PinkTomato> oh yeah, it was added :)
02:51 <nsh22> PinkTomato: is it something i could do to update the patch and rerelease it?
02:52 <PinkTomato> nsh22: possibly, but I don't know what it needs :), it's hoop's after all :)
02:52 <maclover201> The only thing it needed for me was updated line numbers
02:52 <nsh22> ah
02:53 <nsh22> and where is this patch?
02:53 <maclover201> PinkTomato has the link I think.
02:53 <PinkTomato> nsh22: it's not an 'offical' release anyway
02:53 <maclover201> It's a 'hack.'
02:54 <PinkTomato> It is at dessert.ath.cx/download/hooppatch.tar
02:54 <nsh22> ty
02:54 <PinkTomato> Well I meant, this is not what hoop has released :)
02:55 <nsh22> so now i apply that to the source code?
02:55 <maclover201> So... it's "pirated." lol
02:55 <maclover201> you have to apply it manually
02:55 <nsh22> yes i know
02:55 <maclover201> which takes forever
02:55 <maclover201> and btw
02:56 <maclover201> something with this patch i found is that you have to have the race timer patch installed - it depends on that for some things... you have to install that one manually too.
02:56 <nsh22> if i found the line numbers, could i modify them to the correct ones and then put them on the autopatch
02:56 <maclover201> idk anything about autopatch
02:57 <PinkTomato> I think I missed some crucial lines too
02:57 <nsh22> whats the link to the race timer patch?
02:57 <maclover201> no you didn't
02:57 <maclover201> works perfectly for me
02:58 <maclover201> http://hoop.altervista.org/patches/race_timer_20080814_1749.patch
02:59  * nsh22 has no clue why hes sticking his nose in this, he doesnt even know wtf to do with a patch
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03:00 <maclover201> apply it manually
03:00 <maclover201> like
03:00 <maclover201> the lines with + you add
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03:00 <maclover201> the lines with - you delete
03:00 <nsh22> oh ok
03:00 <nsh22> ty
03:00 <nsh22>  i g2g now
03:00 <nsh22> so good night and ty
03:00 <maclover201> and the lines without + or - indicate lines before or after the ones you want to change
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03:14 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/slyshot/aoi-3.aamap.xml: Resource by slyshot
03:16 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/slyshot/aoi-4.aamap.xml: Resource by slyshot
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03:55 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8934 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. MacOS/rakefile.rb MacOS/rakelib/config.rake): Daniel Lee Harple: Serialize version info so we don't have to call the slow batch/make/version script everytime we do something.
03:56 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8935 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. MacOS/Armagetron Advanced.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj): Daniel Lee Harple: Remove .in files from resource copying task.
03:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8936 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. MacOS/Armagetron Advanced.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj): Daniel Lee Harple: Turn on strip for release builds. Saves approximately 4 MB.
03:58 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8937 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. MacOS/Armagetron Advanced.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj): Daniel Lee Harple: Don't package armagetronad.sfd. Saves 4.8 MB.
04:05 <Lucifer> armabot's the only person who talks in here anymore
04:06 <smoothice> lol
04:06 <smoothice> hi Lucifer
04:09  * BabyBug tickles Lucifer.... Missing the sex chats are we?
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04:22 <ct|kyle> ya Lucifer how is girl chasing going
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04:34 <Lucifer> depends on how you look at it
04:35 <Lucifer> it's too early in the semester to chase girls in the classes I work, because it's too early to have established that there's no conflict of interest
04:35 <Lucifer> also, I'm wondering if it's still too early to determine if the novelty of having the class has worn off yet
04:35 <Lucifer> what I mean is, I've been catching a lot of girls (really attractive girls!) looking at me during the labs
04:35 <Lucifer> so, are they looking at me because I'm a novel person right now, or are they checking me out?
04:35 <Lucifer> too early in the semester to tell
04:35 <Lucifer> now, I'm going offline for some computer work, bbiab
04:36 <ct|kyle> see you, I see what you mean
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04:39 <s0beit> \o
04:39 <s0beit> Sup tazzzy
04:39 <TaZ_> hello  there
04:39 <TaZ_> nadda
04:40 <s0beit> #ls SoBeiT
04:40 <@armabot> s0beit: -=VcL.SoBeiT has last been seen on -=VcL.Clan High Rubber Mayhem 8 minutes ago.
04:40 <s0beit> luke-jr:  KNOCK KNOCK
04:40 <TaZ_> whoa, genki is in here
04:40 <s0beit> Hey jenny!
04:40 <TaZ_> haven't seen her in forever
04:40 <s0beit> !yandere
04:41 <s0beit> luke-jr:  Lets play yandere
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04:41 <TaZ_> s0beit, Z-man is not here, so i am not able to prove u wrong
04:42 <s0beit> who cares if he isnt here?
04:42 <s0beit> he said its possible
04:42 <TaZ_> -_-
04:42 <s0beit> which it is
04:42 <s0beit> he didnt say how it was possible
04:42 <s0beit> lol
04:42 <TaZ_> you said it was impossible
04:42 <s0beit> kiss my purple ass!
04:43 <TaZ_> oO
04:43 <s0beit> armabot:  Did you shoot and kill everyone here?
04:43 <TaZ_> why is it purple?
04:43 <s0beit> armabot:  They all died?
04:43 <TaZ_> tori been spaniking you to hard?
04:43 <s0beit> maybe :>
04:43 <TaZ_> lol
04:43 <s0beit> whips and chains baby
04:43 <TaZ_> haha
04:45 <s0beit> ok everyone here is being lame tonight
04:45 <s0beit> bye
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05:44 <maclover201> another coding question
05:44 <maclover201> how would I code a function that respawns dead players every x seconds?
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05:51 <ct|kyle> I know, but you did not stay long enough
06:17 <smoothice> #later tell maclover201 respawn_time 15
06:17 <@armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
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06:29 <Lucifer> are the forums magically down?
06:30 <Lucifer> #fetch http://www.davefancella.com
06:30 <BabyBug> They're fine here
06:30 <@armabot> Lucifer: timed out
06:30 <Lucifer> #fetch http://www.davefancella.com
06:30 <@armabot> Lucifer: '<?xml version="1.0"\n?>\n<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">\n<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">\n<head>\n<title>Dave Fancella</title>\n<meta name="generator" content="http://txt2tags.sf.net" />\n<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="style/main.css" />\n<link rel="stylesheet" (5 more messages)
06:31 <Lucifer> ok, got it working for me again
06:31  * Lucifer needs to remember to set his mtu in /etc/network/interfaces instead of doing it by hand
06:31 <Lucifer> but when you reboot so little, it's not such a chore, eh?
06:35  * BabyBug always reboots
06:35 <BabyBug> silly kernel updates =(
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06:41 <Lucifer_clone> #ping
06:41 <@armabot> pong
06:41 <Lucifer_clone> #fetch http://www.davefancella.com
06:41 -!- Lucifer_clone is now known as Lucifer
06:41 <@armabot> Lucifer_clone: '<?xml version="1.0"\n?>\n<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">\n<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">\n<head>\n<title>Dave Fancella</title>\n<meta name="generator" content="http://txt2tags.sf.net" />\n<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="style/main.css" />\n<link rel="stylesheet" (5 more messages)
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09:10 <Lucifer> #fetch http://www.davefancella.com
09:10 <@armabot> Lucifer: '<?xml version="1.0"\n?>\n<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">\n<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">\n<head>\n<title>Dave Fancella</title>\n<meta name="generator" content="http://txt2tags.sf.net" />\n<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="style/main.css" />\n<link rel="stylesheet" (5 more messages)
09:10 <Lucifer> <3 armabot
09:11 <Lucifer> <3 my motherboard
09:11 <Lucifer> </3 my hard drive
09:11  * Lucifer is going to bed now
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12:12 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r870 Shuffled extension ranges.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r869 Framework for custom control message streaming....
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13:32 <noob13> #tea
13:33 <@armabot> noob13: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
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15:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8938 /armagetronad/trunk/ (. armagetronad/NEWS armagetronad/src/network/nNetwork.cpp): (log message trimmed)
15:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 8921 to 8937:
15:57 <@armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
15:58 <@armabot> armagetronad:  r8930 | bazaarmagetron | 2009-01-31 23:05:27 +0100 (Sat, 31 Jan 2009) | 2 lines
15:58 <@armabot> armagetronad:  Manuel Moos: Added section for post-beta1 changes.
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15:58 <@armabot> armagetronad:  r8923 | bazaarmagetron | 2009-01-29 20:21:51 +0100 (Thu, 29 Jan 2009) | 4 lines
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16:27 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r873 Merge from trunk... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r872 Merge from trunk... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r828 Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 8921 to 8937:... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r871 More convenient interface for control message streaming....
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17:03 <Concord> @lack, thnx for 14
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17:10 <Lackadaisical> np Concord, just found on the wiki that SlaYer was also on pronoobz
17:10 <Concord> thnx
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17:22 <BabyBug> snooooooooooooooooooooooooow!! \o/
17:23 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: that is old news
17:23 <BabyBug> jealous
17:23 <ct|kyle> i've still got about 7 CM
17:24 <BabyBug> lying now? that's how jealous you are...
17:24 <ct|kyle> well i do wish it was colder (snow is melting :( )
17:25 <ct|kyle> #weather 46814
17:25 <@armabot> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Tanbark, Fort Wayne, Indiana is 37.0°F (11:24 AM EST on February 01, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 26.6°F. Windchill: 33.8°F. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013.4 hPa (Rising).
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17:30 <ct|kyle> ʎsdǝ ʎǝɥ
17:33 <epsy> hi ct|kyle
17:45 <PinkTomato> #weather Oxford, UK
17:45 <@armabot> PinkTomato: The current temperature in Oxford, United Kingdom is 33.8°F (4:43 PM GMT on February 01, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 19.4°F. Windchill: 24.8°F. Pressure: 29.44 in 996.8 hPa (Steady).
17:45 <PinkTomato> #finc 33.8
17:45 <@armabot> PinkTomato: 1
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17:50 <madmax> #tea
17:50 <@armabot> madmax: Fortress Café: Players (15/32): -»|freako, -»|hoop (hoop@forums), .fdx, 2020, akira, Ct_Concord (Concord@ct), MaZuffeR, noob13, n¦A¦nou, PlayerNuby, pruWord, ~|DS|~zion, ¦×¦ $ubzero, ¸¬#A$#;|
17:53 <smoothice> epsy: Can you help me make a command that lets in 2 players and spectates the rest?
17:55 <PinkTomato> smoothice: can't you find the suspend function and sort of adapt it to your needs :)?
17:56 <smoothice> Good point...
17:56 <smoothice> alrgit
17:56 <smoothice> alright
17:56 <smoothice> I'll look into that
17:58 <epsy> no, bad idea
17:58 <epsy> that would produce spam
17:58 <smoothice> ?????
17:58 <smoothice> no
17:58 <epsy> set auto_team to 0, then force teams for players
17:58 <smoothice> I'd copy the text of the code
17:59 <smoothice> huh?
17:59 <smoothice> how do I force teams for players?
17:59 <smoothice> I want to spec them
17:59 <epsy> use NULL
17:59 <smoothice>         SetTeam( NULL );???
17:59 <epsy> something like that
17:59 <smoothice> k
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18:36 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+pvp] r1011 fixed tConfItemBase repetitions || [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+pvp] r1010 almost finished with match_start_pvp
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18:46 <epsy> is it possible to view all posts made in the same month?
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18:54 <Concord> #seen sinewav
18:54 <@armabot> Concord: sinewav was last seen in #armagetron 6 days, 16 hours, 13 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: * sinewav used to work in a Chinese restaurant
18:54 <Concord> #ls sinewav
18:54 <@armabot> Concord: timed out
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19:33 <epsy> noob13, does it happen each time?
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19:43 <noob13> epsy: yes
19:45 <epsy> noob13, even if you start it two times?
19:49 <noob13> epsy: start what two times? just testing it now, seems it happens at least 9 in 10 times. with png_screenshot 1 and 0..
19:50 <noob13> or pretty much every time to be exact.. once being the exception when it didn't happen
19:51 <noob13> it also happens when i take the shot in windowed mode, if that helps
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20:02 <epsy> compiz?
20:03 <wrtlprnft> thanks for synergy btw, that was almost exactly what i was looking for
20:04 <wrtlprnft> does something similar exist for sound, btw? some sort of alsa driver that pushes all sound to some other machine to be played back there?
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20:10 <epsy> wrtlprnft, maybe jack?
20:10 <epsy> or you could just do it entirely analogic
20:11 <wrtlprnft> a cd audio ripper? how's that gonna help
20:11 <wrtlprnft> ?
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20:11 <epsy> jack is a sound daemon
20:11 <epsy> a specific one
20:11 <epsy> http://jackaudio.org/
20:11 <noob13> epsy: i haven't got any compiz effects enabled
20:12 <noob13> this thing also doesn't bother me at all :P
20:12 <wrtlprnft> well, my idea is to use my server's dusty soundcard to play back music from my laptop over wlan
20:12 <epsy> oh, just music?
20:12 <wrtlprnft> so if i'm in hearing (and WLAN) range i could use real speakers instead of crappy notebook ones
20:12 <epsy> in that case, you could use MPD on the sound emitting machine
20:13 <wrtlprnft> well, not just music, just everything that needs sound
20:13 <epsy> hm
20:14 <epsy> JACK also has support for distributing audio processing across a network, both fast & reliable LANs as well as slower, less reliable WANs.
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20:14 <wrtlprnft> that's why i said alsa driver, that would be the foolproof way to get compatibility with all possible apps
20:14 <epsy> now I never really tried to use it
20:14 <epsy> well, jack should be able to work alongside with alsa
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20:15 <wrtlprnft> i'll have a look at it, thanks
20:18 <smoothice> epsy: How do I set an integer to the value of an armagetron setting?
20:19 <epsy> hm??
20:19 <smoothice> epsy: Would it be something like int myInt = TEAM_MAX_PLAYERS;
20:19 <wrtlprnft> grep for TEAM_MAX_PLAYERS
20:19 <epsy> look for the line that defines TEAM_MAX_PLAYERS
20:19 <epsy> all settings bind a string to an actual C++ var
20:19 <wrtlprnft> the name of the int will be there, but it might be inaccessible if it's in another source file
20:20 <smoothice> Hmm
20:20 <smoothice> I'm putting my stuff in ePlayer
20:20 <smoothice> Any way to get it through tConfItemBase?
20:20 <wrtlprnft> yeah, look at the cockpit
20:20 <wrtlprnft> you can have it converted to a string and then re-parse it as an int
20:20 <epsy> -.-
20:21 <wrtlprnft> the cockpit has to do that, but i agree with epsy that you probably shouldn't
20:21 <smoothice> hmm
20:21 <epsy> cockpit values are currently hard-coded?
20:21 <wrtlprnft> team_max_players is furtherly complicated because there's the sp_ variant, too
20:22 <wrtlprnft> epsy: the default rubber gauge reads CYCLE_RUBBER
20:22 <wrtlprnft> you can read every setting
20:22 <wrtlprnft> even strings
20:22 <wrtlprnft> so you could have a cockpit widget that displays PLAYER_!
20:22 <wrtlprnft> *PLAYER_1
20:22 <smoothice> Yeah, inaccessible: /src/engine/ePlayer.cpp:7502: error: 'mp_tp' was not declared in this scope
20:22 <wrtlprnft> heh, you could actually do a toggleable instant chat list
20:23 <wrtlprnft> that might even be useful
20:23 <epsy> you can already do that?
20:23 <wrtlprnft> yeah, it's even documented
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20:23 <wrtlprnft> hi Genki1 
20:23 <Genki1> hey
20:24 <smoothice> so
20:24 <smoothice>  /src/engine/ePlayer.cpp:7502: error: 'mp_tp' was not declared in this scope
20:24 <smoothice> hmmmmm
20:24 <wrtlprnft> first it looks if there's a cockpit data source, then it tries to parse it as an int/float, then it looks for a setting of the same name, then it just takes it as a string
20:25 <epsy> wrtlprnft, where is that documented?
20:25 <wrtlprnft> on the wiki…
20:26 <wrtlprnft> smoothice: it gets even more complicated… stuff from engine/ isn't supposed to access stuff from game/
20:26 <epsy> is it longer than a pair of lines?
20:27 <smoothice> It's 92 lines
20:27 <smoothice> so far
20:27 <smoothice> not done yet
20:27 <wrtlprnft> epsy: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Cockpit_Tutorial#Possible_contents_for_data_sources
20:27 <wrtlprnft> five headings are dedicated to it!
20:28 <epsy> I thought about config item stuff :)
20:28 <wrtlprnft> the parsing order isn't mentioned there, but it's kind of obvious
20:28 <smoothice> epsy: so what do you suggest?
20:29 <epsy> smoothice, um, does ramps and flying cycles count?
20:29 <smoothice> epsy: -.-
20:30 <wrtlprnft> epsy: luckily you can't “read” function console commands
20:30 <wrtlprnft> on the other hand, you can exec them from map files. in fact they used to be executed on the client, too, which enabled funny exploits
20:31 <wrtlprnft> i once had a server that would change your clientside player name and your instant chats to crap
20:31 <smoothice> ...
20:31 <wrtlprnft> but it was fixed in or so
20:32 <wrtlprnft> smoothice: there's not too much you can do besides moving your stuff somewhere else
20:32 <smoothice> but
20:32 <smoothice> when I moved my configuration function:
20:32 <smoothice> static tConfItemFunc matchpvp_conf("MATCH_START_PVP",&Matchpvp_conf);
20:33 <smoothice> To gGame
20:33 <smoothice> it broke
20:33 <wrtlprnft> in what way?
20:33 <smoothice> I don't remember
20:33 <smoothice> so error
20:33 <smoothice> some error
20:33 <smoothice> lke
20:33 <smoothice> tConfItemFunc not declared in this scope
20:33 <wrtlprnft> err, that should be declared in gGame
20:33 <luke-jr> hrm
20:33 <wrtlprnft> gGame.cpp includes quite a lot of headers
20:33 <wrtlprnft> hrm
20:34 <luke-jr> TWG anyone?
20:34 <smoothice> luke-jr: -.-
20:36 <smoothice> wrtlprnft: I also wasn't sure where to put it in gGame
20:37 <epsy> put it at the end, simply
20:37 <wrtlprnft> like gGame wasn't big enough as it is
20:37 <smoothice> That's the problem!
20:38 <smoothice> It's over four thousand lines
20:38 <epsy> like ePlayer.cpp wasn't big enough either :)
20:38 <smoothice> ok fine lol
20:39 <smoothice> oh wait
20:39 <smoothice> the was the problem
20:39 <smoothice> When I move it to gGamre
20:39 <smoothice> gGame
20:39 <smoothice> src/tron/gGame.cpp:4844: error: 'ReadPlayer' was not declared in this scope
20:40 <smoothice> epsy: and boy do I need _that_
20:40 <epsy> use the other thing..
20:40 <smoothice> what other rthing?
20:41 <wrtlprnft> for i in `find src -name \*.cpp`; do wc -l $i; done | sort -n
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20:41 <wrtlprnft> please add it to 11 src/tools/unitTest/tToolUnitTest.cpp
20:41 <wrtlprnft> just 11 lines, it could use some more
20:41 <wrtlprnft> or maybe 28 src/engine/eAuthentication.cpp
20:41 <wrtlprnft> by the way, gGame.cpp is only the 4th largest file
20:42 <epsy> and yup, ePlayer is a winner
20:42 <wrtlprnft> almost twice as big
20:42 <smoothice> so what should I do?
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20:44 <smoothice> luke-jr: What the???? You assigned a yandere bug to me?
20:45 <luke-jr> smoothice: I did?
20:45 <smoothice> https://bugs.launchpad.net/yandere/+bug/323697
20:45 <teabot> Launchpad bug 323697 in yandere "Allow admin configuration of game prefixes" [Wishlist,Confirmed]
20:45 <luke-jr> I thought I assigned it to wrtl
20:45 <smoothice> ** Changed in: yandere
20:45 <smoothice>     Assignee: wrtlprnft (wrtlprnft) => smoothice (smoothice)
20:46 <luke-jr> smoothice: look who did it
20:46 <smoothice> I just got an email telling em that
20:46 <smoothice> me
20:46 <smoothice> I didn't do it
20:46 <luke-jr> read the From line
20:47 <smoothice> wrtl
20:47 <smoothice> did it
20:47 <smoothice> epsy: I'm serious... I'm so close to making real progress on this but I'm truly stuck. You seem to be one of the only three knowledgeable people here on this stuff.
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20:48 <BabyBug> only 3? that's a little harsh!
20:49 <smoothice> -.-
20:49 <epsy> smoothice,  ePlayerNetID::FindPlayerByName( name );
20:51 <smoothice> epsy: src/tron/gGame.cpp:4844: error: no matching function for call to 'ePlayerNetID::FindPlayerByName(std::basic_istream<char, std::char_traits<char> >&)'
20:51 <smoothice> ???
20:51 <smoothice> epsy: I called it like this: ePlayerNetID * p = ePlayerNetID::FindPlayerByName( s );
20:51 <epsy> candidates are?
20:51 <smoothice> src/engine/ePlayer.h:354: note: candidates are: static ePlayerNetID* ePlayerNetID::FindPlayerByName(const tString&, ePlayerNetID*)
20:51 <epsy> ePlayerNetID * ePlayerNetID::FindPlayerByName( tString const & name, ePlayerNetID * requester )
20:51 <epsy> yeah
20:52 <smoothice> so how does the candidate help me
20:52 <epsy> use it
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20:52 <smoothice> what do I put for the requester?
20:53 <epsy> 0
20:56 <smoothice> epsy: http://rafb.net/p/RznMKN82.html
20:56 <smoothice> I think I did it right but I still get the no matching function error
20:57 <epsy> ????
20:57 <epsy> I said 0 .. not .. this
20:58 <smoothice> epsy: then I get this... http://rafb.net/p/ml8evE22.html
20:59 <epsy> grr, pass it as a pointer to an ePlayerNetID
20:59 <epsy> ie. (ePlayerNetID*) 0
21:00 <smoothice> same error
21:00 <smoothice> ePlayerNetID * p = ePlayerNetID::FindPlayerByName( s, (ePlayerNetID*) 0 );
21:00 <smoothice> 	ePlayerNetID * p2 = ePlayerNetID::FindPlayerByName( s, (ePlayerNetID*) 0 );
21:00 <epsy> well, it can't be the same error
21:00 <smoothice> it is
21:01 <smoothice> I promise it is
21:01 <epsy> src/tron/gGame.cpp:4845: error: no matching function for call to 'ePlayerNetID::FindPlayerByName(std::basic_istream<char, std::char_traits<char> >&, int)'
21:01 <epsy> it cannot be int there
21:02 <smoothice> then what should be there instead?
21:02 <epsy> I don't know. There should be no error.
21:02 <epsy> I think you forgot to save
21:02 <smoothice> save.... what?
21:03 <epsy> gGame.cpp ?
21:03 <smoothice> ok
21:03 <smoothice> http://rafb.net/p/mKd4Wv93.html
21:03 <smoothice> I think that is different
21:04 <epsy> also, yeah, you are passing the wrong var for parameter 1
21:04 <epsy> you're passing std::istream & s
21:04 <smoothice> oh
21:04 <epsy> although it wants a const tString&
21:05 <smoothice> ok
21:05 <smoothice> it successfully buil
21:05 <smoothice> d
21:05 <smoothice> t
21:05 <epsy> the 0 might work without using (ePlayerNetID*) then
21:05 <smoothice> k
21:05 <smoothice> Yeah I guess so
21:06 <luke-jr> guru3: Lucifer: ping
21:06 <smoothice> ???
21:07 <luke-jr> smoothice: you're neither guru3 nor Lucifer
21:07 <smoothice> I'm not?
21:07 <epsy> and you don't want to be bothered by yandere crap either
21:07 <smoothice> good point
21:07 <luke-jr> epsy: ⁇
21:09 <epsy> buah, I'm still totally puzzled on how to design a proper callback system for eEvent
21:10 <BabyBug> I'll help!
21:10 <epsy> well help me then
21:10 <smoothice> BabyBug, help?
21:10 <smoothice> No way
21:10 <BabyBug> Erm..i meant i'd help as in...emotional support!
21:11  * epsy thinks BabyBug is just going to punch my compiler
21:11 <BabyBug> that works too
21:11 <smoothice> probably true lol
21:11 <smoothice> #do agrees
21:11 <@armabot> Another day...
21:11 <smoothice> ...
21:11 <BabyBug> fail
21:11 <smoothice> lol
21:11 <epsy> #anonymous do agrees
21:12 <epsy> @anonymous do agrees
21:12  * teabot agrees
21:12 <smoothice> @do agrees
21:12 <teabot> smoothice: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
21:12 <epsy> fail
21:12 <smoothice> @anonymous do agrees
21:12 <teabot> smoothice: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
21:12 <smoothice> -.-
21:12 <epsy> @/me agrees
21:12  * teabot agrees
21:12 <smoothice> @/me agrees
21:12  * teabot agrees
21:12 <smoothice> muhahaha
21:12 <smoothice> fail
21:12 <smoothice> #/me agrees
21:12  * armabot agrees
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21:13 <epsy> smoothice, #armagetron.tourneys
21:13 <epsy> @anonymous do #armagetron.tourneys agrees
21:13 <smoothice> yeah
21:13 <smoothice> lol
21:13 <epsy> that, is the point of @anonymous do
21:14 <epsy> wow, I reached the point where I can only join one single additional channel
21:15 <MrBougo> how much in total?
21:15 <epsy> the limit is 20 on freenode
21:16 <luke-jr> epsy: that can be raised ;)
21:16 <MrBougo> D:
21:16 <epsy> luke-jr, how?
21:16 <luke-jr> ask staff
21:16 <MrBougo> using two clients :p
21:16 <luke-jr> for +u
21:16 <epsy> can that be done freely?
21:17 -!- Genki1 [n=Jenny@ip70-176-82-12.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit ["Leaving."]
21:17 <luke-jr> ?
21:17 <luke-jr> be prepared to have a reason
21:17 <epsy> ie. without being a donnor
21:17 <epsy> heh
21:18 <epsy> what was luke-jr's?
21:18 <smoothice> epsy: CRUD
21:18 -!- akira_arma [n=chatzill@] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.5/2008120122]"]
21:19 <epsy> #eliza CRUD
21:19 <@armabot> epsy: Can you elaborate on that?
21:19 <epsy> smoothice, Can you elaborate on that?
21:19 <smoothice> #dict crud
21:19 <@armabot> smoothice: wn and gcide responded: gcide: Crud \Crud\ (kr?d), n. See {Curd}. [Obs.] [1913 Webster]; wn: crud n 1: heavy wet snow that is unsuitable for skiing 2: any substance considered disgustingly foul or unpleasant [syn: {filth}, {skank}] 3: an ill-defined bodily ailment; "he said he had the crud and needed a doctor"; gcide: Curd \Curd\ (k[^u]rd), n. [Of Celtic origin; cf. Gael. (2 more messages)
21:19 <smoothice> epsy: I named my branch 0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+pvp but I branched off of 0.2.8
21:19 <luke-jr> epsy: involvement in a lot of channels
21:19 <smoothice> epsy: and did all this
21:19 <luke-jr> smoothice: wtf is PVP
21:19 <epsy> #more smoothice
21:19 <@armabot> epsy: gruth, Ir, gruth, cruth, curd, cruthaim I milk.] [Sometimes written {crud}.] 1. The coagulated or thickened part of milk, as distinguished from the whey, or watery part. It is eaten as food, especially when made into cheese. [1913 Webster] Curds and cream, the flower of country fare. --Dryden. [1913 Webster] 2. The coagulated part of any liquid. [1913 Webster] 3. The edible flower head (1 more message)
21:19 <epsy> player versus player?
21:19 <smoothice> yeah
21:20 <luke-jr> so… 2 slot?
21:20 <epsy> and match counting
21:20 <smoothice> No sir
21:20 <smoothice> yeah
21:20 <luke-jr> anyhow, this info might be relevant to more than just z-man, guru3 and Lucifer actually:
21:20 <luke-jr> FreeNode is going to upgrade soon
21:20 <luke-jr> any channels not registered with them formally ( http://freenode.net/group_contact_form.shtml ) will disappear at that time
21:20 <epsy> you mean, services?
21:20 <epsy> oh
21:20 <luke-jr> I mean IRCd
21:20 <wrtlprnft> neat
21:20 <epsy> so every # channel?
21:21 <epsy> luke-jr, where's that news at?
21:21 -!- madmax [n=madmax@unaffiliated/madmax] has joined #armagetron
21:21 <luke-jr> epsy: I was contacted directly.
21:21 <epsy> because you're a channel owner?
21:22 <luke-jr> yes
21:22 <epsy> through a notice or..?
21:22 <luke-jr> query
21:23 <luke-jr> hm
21:23 <smoothice> epsy: would you mind merging 0.2.8 into 0.2.8-armagetronad-sty right now?
21:24 <luke-jr> #armaTWGeTRON should be part of whcih project? Armagetron, Yandere, or Anime? :þ
21:24 <epsy> well, strange, I own #armagetron.tournaments and #arma.xclan, but I had received nothing
21:24 <epsy> Yandere?
21:24 <wrtlprnft> i own quite a few dead channels, and didn't get a notice either
21:25 -!- zmanuel [n=manuel@p508722F2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron
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21:25 <luke-jr> epsy: Yandere is the game engine behind the IRC implementation
21:25 <luke-jr> epsy: they might just go for #Armagetron's registered owner
21:25 <luke-jr> which appears to be guru3
21:26 <luke-jr> zmanuel: hey
21:26 <epsy> yes, I mean Yandere
21:26 <luke-jr> epsy: ?
21:26 <wrtlprnft> smoothice: done, even though i'm not epsy
21:26 <BabyBug> You asked which project should it be part of luke-jr
21:26 <BabyBug> epsy suggested yandere...
21:26 <epsy> part of Yandere, rather than armagetron, because I fail to see how it matches the goal of the Armagetron
21:26 <luke-jr> >_<
21:26 <smoothice> wrtlprnft: thanks! I don't know I just asked epsy since he seems to be maintaining it
21:26 <BabyBug> gawd...americans..
21:27 <epsy> unless it's an actual game mode
21:27 <epsy> I do?
21:27 <luke-jr> epsy: well, there's a backend to play in Armagetron chat :þ
21:27 <wrtlprnft> heh
21:27 <epsy> well, the Yandere project is about such games isn't it?
21:27 <luke-jr> epsy: and if I get the time, I might bother to make it interact with the game
21:27 <luke-jr> sure
21:27 <luke-jr> anyhow
21:27 <epsy> then it is part of Yandere
21:28 <luke-jr> epsy: the only reason I'm unsure is that TWG can be played with a moderator on the forums, ignorign the bot
21:28 <smoothice> wrtlprnft: no merge conflicts?
21:28 <wrtlprnft> surprisingly not
21:28 <smoothice> yay thanks
21:28 <wrtlprnft> looks like the merge was a little overdue, though, from the amount of changes
21:28 <smoothice> Yeah
21:29 <smoothice> That's why I asked
21:29 <luke-jr> smoothice: wrtlprnft
21:29 <luke-jr> your names look too close
21:29 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: smoothice 
21:29 <wrtlprnft> o_O
21:29 <luke-jr> both the same green
21:29 <luke-jr> and same length
21:29 <wrtlprnft> if the third letter is a vovel it's smoothice 
21:29 <smoothice> wrtlprnft
21:29 <smoothice> smoothice
21:29 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: are your IRC client's colors my fault?
21:30 <epsy> I have smoothice pink and wrtlprnft yellow
21:30 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: yes
21:30 <wrtlprnft> i have everyone white and me bold
21:30 <smoothice> epsy: Pink?
21:30 <smoothice> epsy: -.-
21:30 <luke-jr> smoothice: pink suits you!
21:31 <smoothice> luke-jr: -.-
21:31 -!- You're now known as wrtlprnft_______
21:31 <smoothice> black suits you, luke
21:31 <wrtlprnft_______> happy?
21:31 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft_______: yes, thanks
21:31 <luke-jr> wait no
21:31 <luke-jr> that nick violates the RFC
21:31 <luke-jr> >:O
21:31 <wrtlprnft_______> ?
21:31 <smoothice> fail
21:31 -!- MaZuffeR [n=mazuffer@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has quit ["Ex-Chat"]
21:31 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft_______: it's too long
21:32 <luke-jr> IRC specifies a max length of 11 IIRC
21:32 -!- smoothice is now known as smoothice_______
21:32 <smoothice_______> hi
21:32 <wrtlprnft_______> well, this is freenode's limit
21:32 -!- smoothice_______ is now known as smoothy
21:32 <luke-jr> smoothice_______: pink REALLY suits you well
21:33 <smoothy> gaah
21:33 <smoothy> worse!!!
21:33 <wrtlprnft_______> RFC ≠ standard
21:33 -!- You're now known as wrtlprnft
21:33 -!- smoothy is now known as smoothice
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21:34 <smoothice> luke-jr: black suits you because of the reasons I stated yesterday
21:35 <smoothice> luke-jr: (you only like people who pay you)
21:35 <epsy> luke-jr, well, no staffer seems to be saying anything on the subject in #freenode
21:36 <luke-jr> smoothice: liar
21:36 <luke-jr> smoothice: more like, I don't have time to hand-hold gratis
21:36 <smoothice> luke-jr: then why be in here
21:36 <epsy> [22:36] <+christel>: epsy: it's hardly a secret, the channel naming policy is on our website and has been for years, we've also blogged several times on the subject encouraging people to ensure they're in teh correct channel namespace sooner rather than later :)
21:36 <wrtlprnft> to give undecipherable comments and to distract people by saying … once in a while
21:37 <luke-jr> smoothice: for non-hand-holding
21:37 <smoothice> luke-jr: how is asking how to one thing in C++ hand holding
21:37 <wrtlprnft> depends on what you're asking and how much you know
21:38 <luke-jr> smoothice: I wasn't referring to you.
21:38 <smoothice> luke-jr: w/e
21:38 <wrtlprnft> if you didn't know anything about c++ and were asking how to add *insert feature here* to arma that would require hand holding
21:38 <luke-jr> most annoying is when people PM me for help with something well-documented
21:39 <luke-jr> which is fairly often
21:39 <wrtlprnft> effectively resulting in the hand holder implementing it himself and then having to explain it to someone else instead of just typing it in
21:39 <luke-jr> admittedly, if someone is paying me for support, I will often assist with even well-documented stuff
21:40 <luke-jr> because they're paying me to support them
21:40 <wrtlprnft> let's bring up the old cooking metaphor again :-)
21:48 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty] r888 merging from mainline... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r875 Fixed wrong zero diff of submessages.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r874 Switched control messages to protobufs.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r865 Added tShortColor and steaming functions to tColor.h; use th... || [osx-libs] r7 Added ZThread... || [osx-libs] r6 Added BUILD_PPC_OPTIONS and BUILD_i386_
21:48 <Flex> luke-jr you could at least link to the "well-documented stuff"
21:49 -!- PinkTomato [n=sam@hn-33-170.brookes.ac.uk] has joined #armagetron
21:49 <Flex> contrary to being "well"
21:52 -!- MaZuffeR [n=mazuffer@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has joined #armagetron
21:53 <luke-jr> Flex: I didn't name you, either.
21:53 <wrtlprnft> Flex didn't name himself
21:53 <luke-jr> wtf is with you people assuming i'm talking about you?
21:53 <luke-jr> -.-
21:53 <Flex> yeah, i was just saying..
21:54 <luke-jr> if I link the docs, then they don't learn to find them
21:54 <wrtlprnft> wtf is it with luke-jr assuming everyone only talks about themselves
21:54 <Flex> lol^
22:01 -!- emmy_arma [n=peiaeman@pc240018.static.is.airbites.ro] has quit ["Leaving"]
22:38 -!- nsh22 [n=neal@bas3-barrie18-1177706508.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #armagetron
22:38 <nsh22> hey hey
22:43 <epsy> zmanuel, http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Ladle/Challenge_Board#Server_List
22:45 <zmanuel> epsy: yes?
22:45 <zmanuel> missign a server?
22:45 <epsy> yeah
22:46 <zmanuel> well, add it :) I can run one.
22:46 <epsy> location and address?
22:46 <zmanuel> l23.thp.uni-koeln.de
22:47 <zmanuel> cologne
22:47 <epsy> port?
22:47 <zmanuel> dunno :)
22:47 <zmanuel> Default, probably.
22:47 <zmanuel> yes, default.
22:48 <epsy> is there any other admin besides you?
22:49 <zmanuel> Not currently, but I can add anyone.
22:49 <luke-jr> zmanuel: hey
22:49 <luke-jr> zmanuel: someone needs to register Armagetron with FreeNode formally :þ
22:50 <zmanuel> Have one of the IRC admins do that.
22:50 <luke-jr> eh?
22:50 <epsy> he probably means guru3
22:50 <luke-jr> zmanuel: under your nick z-man, you are one
22:51 <zmanuel> I am? I never used it.
22:51 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+pvp] r890 get values of team settings before they are changed || [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+pvp] r889 Redid branch with sty added, forgot last time
22:51 <luke-jr> heh
22:52 <luke-jr> well, whoever does it should include: #armagetron* #armacycles* and maybe #arma*
22:52 <luke-jr> tho I want to keep #armalukechat >.>
22:52 <nsh22> armaramps? lol just kiddin
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23:02 <epsy> smoothice, erm, you told it to only read first argument
23:02 <PinkTomato> #seen hoop
23:02 <@armabot> PinkTomato: hoop was last seen in #armagetron 2 weeks, 0 days, 2 hours, 9 minutes, and 2 seconds ago: <hoop> akira_arma: join #armagetron.tourneys plz
23:02 <epsy> s >> theFirstArgument; s >> theSecondArgument
23:02 <epsy> ;
23:03 <smoothice> epsy: so it'd be
23:03 <epsy> (don't forget you can declare theFirstArgument and theSecondArgument at the same time using tString theFirstArgument, theSecondArgument;)
23:03 <epsy> nighty
23:04 <smoothice> epsy:  where do I put that line?
23:04 <smoothice> epsy: wait!!!!!
23:04 <epsy> what line?
23:04 <smoothice> epsy: where do I put s >> theFirstArgument; s >> theSecondArgument
23:04 <epsy> before you use theFirstArgument and theSecondArgument
23:04 <smoothice> alright
23:04 <smoothice> thanks
23:04 <nsh22> nighty
23:11 -!- epsy [n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy] has quit ["uʍop-ǝpısdn ǝʇıɹʍ sǝop ǝuo ʍoɥ ƃuıɹǝpuoʍ ǝq ʎɐɯ noʎ.. it's pretty simple: JUST WRITE UPSIDE-DOWN!"]
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23:19  * nsh22 has dinner
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23:21 <luke-jr> need testers for Yandere :þ
23:22 <nsh22> which channel, i forget
23:23 <luke-jr> #yandere-test
23:35 -!- G5_ [n=G5@cl-506.dus-01.de.sixxs.net] has quit ["Over and out."]
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23:50 <smoothice> zmanuel: Remember the Team Red bug? It's back
23:50 <zmanuel> which branch?
23:51 <nsh22> i dont like red bugs...
23:51 <smoothice> zmanuel: 0.2.8-sty
23:51 <smoothice> It may be on others
23:51 <smoothice> I just noticed it on 0.2.8-sty
23:52 <smoothice> zmanuel: I don't know if it's the exact Team Red bug but here's what I noticed
23:53 -!- viper [n=x-javach@82-34-188-177.cable.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #armagetron
23:53 <smoothice> zmanuel: if you include settings_pig_sty_ctf.cfg and a player comes in and plays under single player mode and another play enters then they are automatically joined to "Team red"
23:53 <smoothice> zmanuel: The server then joins them to one of the two teams in the succeeding round
23:54 <smoothice> zmanuel: and Team red is left on the score table
23:54 <nsh22> oh noes, its vipe, the noob
23:54 <zmanuel> Ah, that's fine, then.
23:55 <zmanuel> I assume team red vanishes after a bit?
23:55 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+pvp] r891 Fixed command argument bug and added start_new_match + conso...
23:55 <smoothice> zmanuel: Yeah it does but this happens even when TEAMS_MAX is set to 2
23:56 <zmanuel> and? No three teams are ever on the grid
23:56 <zmanuel> and team red never actually plays.

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