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Log from 2009-01-17:
--- Day changed Sat Jan 17 2009
00:00 <epsy> http://launchpad.net/bugs/318018
00:01 <BabyBug> epsy, opposite?
00:01 <epsy> i'll just remove that block
00:01 <epsy> someone wanted it for something else, I guess
00:02 <epsy> but now nobody wants to join spectators when he's a spectator already
00:02 <BabyBug> Yes they do.
00:02 <BabyBug> Or there's a situation where they do.
00:03 <BabyBug> Maybe.. =x
00:03 <BabyBug> anywhoo..toodles \o
00:04 <PinkTomato> bye \o
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00:16 <MaZuffeR> Steve Jobs has HIV: http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-182801
00:17 <Lucifer> apple shares take a nosedive
00:17 -!- smoothice [n=smoothic@97-122-104-49.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #armagetron
00:17 <epsy> they all wanted to have gaysex with him
00:18 <smoothice> Did I join at a bad time?
00:18 <epsy> that's left to see
00:18 <Lucifer> smoothice: there's no bad time for gay sex
00:18  * Lucifer humps epsy
00:19 <smoothice> Guys! Hush! There's CHILDREN in here!
00:19 <PinkTomato> is that a mock up?
00:19 <Lucifer> it's not real until google news has it
00:19 <PinkTomato> agreed, but its enough to cause a drop in shares
00:20 <Lucifer> it looks legit, but it's been years since I've seen one of those forms, and they do differ from one lab to the next anyway
00:20 <epsy> now wtf has this to do over internet?
00:21 <Lucifer> but I have to admit, I didn't see any of the various other numbers it should have, internal ID numbers
00:21 <PinkTomato> SageLord: What is my first match in fort brawl?
00:21 <Lucifer> it would account for his weight loss, though
00:23 <PinkTomato> Steve Jobs is very careful with privacy though?
00:23 <Lucifer> smoothice: [17:16] <MaZuffeR> Steve Jobs has HIV: http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-182801
00:23 <PinkTomato> I think someone like Steve would make an arrangement to discuss test results rather than mail them
00:23 <Lucifer> yes he is, but there's too much incentive for people to leak details about his privacy
00:23 <Lucifer> and the more he protects it, the more people want to know
00:24 <epsy> sadly
00:24 <Lucifer> they didn't say it was mailed, it was someone in the record-keeping department that leaked it
00:24 <Lucifer> assuming it's legit, of course
00:24 <smoothice> Lucifer: That's shi*
00:25 <Lucifer> also, my personal experience with "medical billing companies" is that they don't know what was done, or what the results were
00:25 <Lucifer> they only know how much it costed
00:27 <ct|kyle> lol so true
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00:27 <Lucifer> but not only would it not surprise me if he does have aids, I don't see how it matters for apple
00:28 <Lucifer> it might screw up their share price for a bit, but I think it'll have no negligible effect on them
00:28 <ivantis2> huh?
00:28 <ct|kyle> With obama's Heath insurance plan all it will do is Drive up those costs
00:28 <ivantis2> obama has aids??
00:28 <PinkTomato> isn't that good? health insurance I mean?
00:28 <Corn> yes, ivantis
00:29 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: quit bitching, the election's over ;)
00:29 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: NO
00:29 <ivantis2> dude that will not be good
00:29 <Lucifer> insurance of all kinds is a rip
00:29 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: everyone was out buying guns tonight
00:29 <Lucifer> ?  for what?
00:29 <Lucifer> to satisfy your sense of paranoia?
00:29 <ivantis2> the gun show
00:29 <ct|kyle> i think they are all afraid that obama will ban them
00:29 <Lucifer> obama isn't a dictator!
00:29 <PinkTomato> Obama can't ban them
00:29 <Lucifer> lest we forget, he can't actually pass ANY laws whatsoever
00:30 <PinkTomato> that would be too unpopular
00:30 <ct|kyle> congress has to first, but with a vast majority his party
00:30 <ivantis2> no one forget obama's irc channel
00:30 <Lucifer> it would also ensure a republican-dominated congress
00:30 <ivantis2> #change
00:30 <@armabot> ivantis2: Error: The command "change" is available in the News, Praise, and Quote plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "change".
00:30 <Lucifer> look, have we forgotten what happened to congress after Clinton pushed through his new gun control law?
00:30 <ct|kyle> anyway i gtg, have fun debating it :P
00:30 <Lucifer> you know, right after Columbine?
00:30 <PinkTomato> what does the health insurance mean?
00:30 <Lucifer> when you leave, the debate is over ;)
00:31 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: i was not old enough, I don't knoe about it
00:31 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: it means a $20 off card for regular hospital visits
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00:31 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: check it out, then
00:31 <Lucifer> he lost his democrat majority over it
00:31 <PinkTomato> that's not really health insurance...
00:31 <Lucifer> ushering in Newt Gingrich
00:31 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: it's only really useful under these circumstances:
00:32 <Lucifer> a) you have an accident/illness requiring expensive treatments
00:32 <Lucifer> b) you have regular visits that, priced out at regular office costs, would cost more than the insurance policy ($5k/year or more)
00:32 <Lucifer> the kick is, insurance doesn't cover "pre-existing conditions"
00:32  * BabyBug is back! Beware!
00:32 <Lucifer> so you can't wait until you're sick to get insurance, you need to already have it
00:33 <Lucifer> otherwise, for most minor things, like broken legs and whatnot, you pay for those out of pocket
00:33 <Lucifer> that's what "Deductible" means
00:33 <Lucifer> you pay the deductible (usually around $2k) before the insurance covers any costs outside of normal well-visits
00:33 <Lucifer> so the $600 ambulance charge is yours, as well as the $1200 emergency room visit
00:34 <Lucifer> it is a yearly deductible, though, so you never pay more than $2k/year
00:34 <Lucifer> here's the thing
00:34 <PinkTomato> that a year?
00:34 <Lucifer> once you price insurance against doctor's visits, it comes out cheaper to just pay cash at the doctor's office
00:34 <Lucifer> as long as nothing bad happens to you, you come out way ahead
00:35 <PinkTomato> You never know though
00:35 <Lucifer> and as long as the bad things that do happen to you aren't too bad, you still come out ahead
00:35 <Lucifer> indeed
00:35 <Lucifer> since I still smoke, and have smoked for years, I need insurance :)
00:36 <PinkTomato> so obama want's to incentive going to the doctor's?
00:36 <Lucifer> obama wants to provide everyone with Quality Healthcare
00:36 <PinkTomato> Won't that bring up everyone's insurance?
00:36 <Lucifer> his plan builds on the existing system
00:36 <epsy> stop being yellow
00:36 <Lucifer> rather, his old plan did, I think he assimilated most of Clinton's plan
00:37 <PinkTomato> Hospitals are seperate from the state right?
00:37 <Lucifer> yep
00:37 <Lucifer> for the most part, anyway
00:37 <Lucifer> the doctor's themselves also bill for their services
00:38 <Lucifer> so if you go to the emergency room in an ambulance, you'll get three bills
00:38 <PinkTomato> Surely Obama can't really control them in the way he want's to achieve that goal?
00:38 <Lucifer> one from the ambulance company, one from the hospital, and one from the doctor
00:38 <Lucifer> it's not doctors he's trying to control
00:38 <Lucifer> in fact, all he really wants to do is create essentially a federal insurance policy that people can buy that will be subsidized with tax dollars
00:39 <Lucifer> which, short of a complete revamp of the health industry, is what I think is best
00:39 <PinkTomato> So it is one step towards a national health service without the connotations Americans have of it?
00:39 <Lucifer> yes
00:40 <Lucifer> except that many opponents argue it'll have the effect of undercutting private insurance policies and drive those companies out of business
00:40 <Lucifer> and that the federal system won't be big enough to cover everybody, and even if it were, it would reduce the quality of healthcare for all
00:40 <Lucifer> so in the end, it probably won't pass as stated because the insurance lobby is very powerful
00:40 <Lucifer> bbl
00:41 <PinkTomato> OK, interesting, see you later
00:41 <MaZuffeR> http://www.erikyyy.de/tempest/ someone has to much time on their hands
00:41 <epsy> #date
00:41 <@armabot> I was just gonna say, eight o'clock?
00:41 <epsy> #alias add date time
00:41 <epsy> #date
00:41 <@armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
00:41 <PinkTomato> I've played around with that MaZuffeR !
00:41 <@armabot> epsy: 12:41 AM, January 17, 2009
00:42 <PinkTomato> It actually works
00:42 <epsy> 4 days left
00:42 <epsy> crappy shit
00:42 <PinkTomato> until what epsy :)?
00:42 <epsy> until I get fucked and forced to cancel TST
00:43 <PinkTomato> why so?
00:43 <epsy> flex went bollocks and decided to fuck me up
00:43 <epsy> - again -
00:43 <PinkTomato> so you have no control to armagetron.co.uk?
00:43 <Corn> :o
00:44 <epsy> I can just post new entries to the TST blog
00:44 <epsy> so I can put a nice thank you to flex
00:45 <epsy> that's pretty much the only thing I can do at all
00:45 <PinkTomato> can you get the emails of the applicant's?
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00:46 <epsy> no, I don't even have access to the DB
00:46 <PinkTomato> well that's just plain annyoyance...
00:47 <PinkTomato> does flex plan to do it then?
00:47 <PinkTomato> destroying everything now.
00:47 <epsy> to do what?
00:47 <PinkTomato> TST
00:47 <epsy> I didn't think about it
00:47 <PinkTomato> Corn: Any idea what our first match is in fort brawl?
00:47 <epsy> if he thought about it he would have asked angel to .htaccess-Deny me out of it as well
00:47 <BabyBug> flex == dildo ><
00:48 <Corn> Nope.
00:48 <Corn> I'm playing with sagelord i can ask him
00:48 <BabyBug> wait no..dildos are capable of pleasuring women ><
00:48 <PinkTomato> O_o Corn?
00:48 <epsy> er, and I was meant to be he, in my forelast line
00:48 <Corn> fortress you pervert
00:49 <Corn> Pink: he hasnt randomized it yet.. .we're going to do that in a bit
00:49 <PinkTomato> Corn: are we merging teams then?
00:49 <Corn> no, why would we do that?
00:50 <PinkTomato> Because your playing with SageLord?
00:50 <Corn> I meant im playing with him right now... in your server btw
00:50 <PinkTomato> Ah hehe :)
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00:50 <PinkTomato> #ptfort
00:50 <sagemoar> yo
00:50 <@armabot> PinkTomato: {PinkTomato}  Fortress Server: Players (5/26): Corn, F!Nudge, nOOb_saibot, SageLord, ~|DS|~G5
00:50 <Corn> hey lawd
00:50 <sagemoar> ;P
00:51 <sagemoar> my bro's using my comp right now
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01:04 <Corn> #shuffle 1 2 3 4 5 6
01:04 <@armabot> Corn: 1 4 3 6 5 2
01:04 <sagemoar> aight
01:05 <sagemoar> that was a test right?
01:05 <Corn> 1 and 4 get the bye on the second round
01:05 <Corn> in that case
01:05 <Corn> sure
01:05 <sagemoar> ok
01:05 <sagemoar> yea in that case
01:05 <sagemoar> ok
01:05 <sagemoar> so here's the real order for brackets for fortress brawl:
01:05 <sagemoar> #shuffle Corn Concord Kyo hoop appa SageLord
01:05 <@armabot> sagemoar: Concord Kyo SageLord appa hoop Corn
01:05 <Corn> Ok
01:05 <sagemoar> winner of concord-kyo will get a bye
01:06 <Corn> Yes
01:06 <epsy> playing roulette? :O
01:06 <sagemoar> :p
01:06 <Corn> #ping
01:06 <@armabot> pong
01:07 <sagemoar> ok
01:07 <sagemoar> so now we need to solve the problem of servers
01:07 <Corn> we only need 3
01:07 <sagemoar> pink tomatoes has already said we could use his
01:07 <epsy> you can use xserv
01:08 <sagemoar> all right xserver it is
01:08 <sagemoar> and then one more
01:08 <Corn> we can probably use a CT server
01:08 <epsy> just hand me config & desired admins
01:08 <sagemoar> compguygene said we could use his
01:08 <Corn> ok
01:08 <Corn> thats 3
01:08 <sagemoar> aight
01:08 <Corn> want to do another #shuffle for the servers?
01:08 <PinkTomato> How about
01:09 <PinkTomato> x for final
01:09 <sagemoar> there seem to be more americans than europeans playing the tournament
01:09 <epsy> well, there's café on the same machine
01:09 <epsy> with all the loosers
01:09 <sagemoar> hmm
01:09 <sagemoar> let me look at the player list again
01:10 <epsy> anyone wants my last quakelive invite?
01:10 <sagemoar> actually
01:11 <sagemoar> some teams have a lot of euro players and some teams are almost all american players
01:11 <sagemoar> here's what we'll do
01:11 <PinkTomato> I kinda guessed that
01:11 <PinkTomato> Euro captains will choose euro players more likely
01:12 <PinkTomato> because that's who they see more on the grid I would say
01:12 <PinkTomato> I'm probably wrong though, ^^
01:12 <sagemoar> right
01:13 <sagemoar> concord: most of your team is american
01:13 <sagemoar> right?
01:13 <Concord> yep
01:13 <epsy> well corn mostly chose euro players
01:13 <sagemoar> well its half and half there
01:13 <Corn> I chose like half and half
01:13 <epsy> ok; I didn't even check :)
01:13 <sagemoar> i chose pretty much all americans
01:13 <sagemoar> appa actually has almost all euros
01:14 <sagemoar> hoop has almost all americans
01:14 <sagemoar> corn-both
01:14 <sagemoar> hoop-american
01:14 <sagemoar> appa-euro
01:14 <sagemoar> kyo-euro
01:14 <sagemoar> concord-american
01:14 <sagemoar> sagelord-american
01:14 <PinkTomato> well that has worked out well
01:14 <sagemoar> haha
01:14 <PinkTomato> Appa and K-yo on X
01:14 <epsy> I'm leaving very soon
01:15 <sagemoar> i think for the hoop-corn, we give them an american server
01:15 <epsy> hoopcorn!
01:15 <sagemoar> well, we already randomized the teams
01:15 <Corn> cornhoop sounds better
01:15 <PinkTomato> #shuffle hoopcorn otherTeams
01:15 <sagemoar> hocoporn?
01:15 <@armabot> PinkTomato: otherTeams hoopcorn
01:15 <epsy> sagemoar, make a drawing of the brackets and can produce a table for you
01:15 <PinkTomato> #shuffle compguygene PinkT
01:15 <@armabot> PinkTomato: compguygene PinkT
01:16 <epsy> and I can *
01:16 <sagemoar> what do you mean/
01:16 <epsy> you know, my magic challenge board script
01:16 <PinkTomato> see > http://tst.armagetron.co.uk/schedule/
01:17 <BabyBug> the magic challenge board script that takes forever to understand
01:17 <epsy> (I say it's magic because it's so crappily coded)
01:17 <sagemoar> well its concord-kyo, sagelord-appa, hoop-corn
01:17 <sagemoar> and concord-kyo get a bye
01:17 <sagemoar> the winner
01:17 <epsy> BabyBug, heh well, TST has some complex chalenge boards
01:17 <PinkTomato> epsy: It works though! :)
01:17 <epsy> PinkTomato, adding a feature in this is a pain
01:17 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, So does windows...That's still crappy xD
01:18 <BabyBug> (not trying to insult epsy's thingy there, that's a dig at windows)
01:18 <PinkTomato> :)
01:18 <PinkTomato> epsy: ah I see :(
01:18 <epsy> my thingy sucks
01:18 <BabyBug> Hrmm
01:18 <BabyBug> you might want to rephrase that
01:18 <sagemoar> hahaha
01:18 <epsy> but yeah, it works
01:18 <PinkTomato> does it do byes?
01:18 <epsy> BabyBug, pervert
01:19 <BabyBug> read out of context those last two lines seem...well yeh
01:19 <epsy> PinkTomato, not really no
01:19 <epsy> can be easily worked around tho
01:19 <PinkTomato> ah right :)
01:20 <epsy> ok, have a good night
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01:20 <PinkTomato> xD
01:20 <PinkTomato> ConcordKyo SageLordappa hoopCorn
01:21 <PinkTomato> #shuffle x pt compguygene
01:21 <@armabot> PinkTomato: pt compguygene x
01:21 <PinkTomato> #shuffle x pt compguygene
01:21 <PinkTomato> that was supposed to be a test ^^
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01:22 <PinkTomato> sagemoar: what's the plan then?
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01:27 <sagemoar> sorry, had some issues
01:27 <sagemoar> for the first servers, we should randomize it
01:27 <PinkTomato> agreeed
01:27 <sagemoar> after that, i think depending on what the team captains want, the semis and the finals can be different servers
01:27 <sagemoar> does that sound all right?
01:28 <PinkTomato> if all euro team,
01:28 <PinkTomato> always x
01:28 <sagemoar> right
01:28 <PinkTomato> for final I think
01:28 <PinkTomato> semi final is 1:3 EURO teams
01:29 <PinkTomato> EURO:US
01:29 <PinkTomato> that might enter
01:29 <PinkTomato> so US server for that
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01:30 <sagemoar> err
01:30 <sagemoar> you just confused me
01:30 <sagemoar> hah
01:30 <sagemoar> haha*
01:30 <PinkTomato> :)
01:30 <sagemoar> ok well what i was thinking was, if the team captains want different things, we'll randomize it
01:30 <sagemoar> for the semis and finals
01:30 <PinkTomato> OK
01:31 <sagemoar> thats always fair, right? :S
01:31 <PinkTomato> I'm not sure,
01:31 <PinkTomato> :)
01:31 <PinkTomato> now I'm confused
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01:50 <BabyBug> men are so crap at explaining things =P
01:51 <PinkTomat1> No some people are so crap at explaining things :P
01:51 <PinkTomat1> its not a Man thing
01:51 <BabyBug> prove it
01:52 <PinkTomat1> The amount of excuses people come up with when they have been asked out but don't like the person
01:53 <PinkTomat1> you could just use one excuse and be done with it
01:53 <BabyBug> eh?
01:53 <PinkTomat1> OK,
01:53 <PinkTomat1> that was the first thing off the top of my head
01:54 <PinkTomat1> not a good example
01:54 <PinkTomat1> But that dosen't prove your point!
01:55 <PinkTomat1> I'm just naturally bad at explaining things anyway
01:55 <BabyBug> haha =P
01:55 <BabyBug> you so just shot yourself in the foot :P
01:56 <PinkTomat1> Women would rather hint at what they want though,
01:56 <PinkTomat1> rather than go straight to the point
01:57 <PinkTomat1> so you avoid the situation by not explaining at all.
01:57 <PinkTomat1> , one could argu
01:57 <PinkTomat1> e
01:58 <noob_saibot> im on so many drugs right now
01:58 <PinkTomat1> why so noob_saibot ?
01:59 <noob_saibot> i had my wisdom teeth out
01:59 <noob_saibot> 2 of them
01:59 <PinkTomat1> me too
01:59 <noob_saibot> when today?
01:59 <PinkTomat1> not today, 1,2 or 3 years ago
01:59 <noob_saibot> oh
02:00 <PinkTomat1> but I was under general, so didn't feel a thing
02:00 <noob_saibot> yeah my jaw hurts like crazy but the meds are maddddddddddd good
02:00 <noob_saibot> yeah i was under twilight
02:00 <noob_saibot> i didnt know what was going on
02:00 <PinkTomat1> That scares me
02:01 <noob_saibot> yeah
02:01 <noob_saibot> i was mad nervous bc i never been knocked out before
02:01 <PinkTomat1> Surely the doctors must get some really random stuff said to them?
02:01 <noob_saibot> yeah lol
02:01 <noob_saibot> i was flirting with the nurse
02:01 <noob_saibot> ;)
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02:01 <PinkTomat1> :)
02:01 <smoothice> PinkTomat1: How did you make gold zones for DD racing?
02:02 <PinkTomat1> \o/ at last PinkTomato
02:02 <PinkTomat1> smoothice: code patch
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02:03 <smoothice> PinkTomato: is that open source :P ?
02:04 <PinkTomato> Hoop has not updated it,
02:04 <PinkTomato> I'm not sure the source is on the DD server
02:04 <smoothice> but
02:04 <smoothice> Don't you compile the DD... stuff?
02:04 <smoothice> on
02:04 <smoothice> the VPS?
02:04 <PinkTomato> I do,
02:04 <PinkTomato> hoop might do it differently
02:04 <ct|kyle> you are talking about rubber zones
02:05 <PinkTomato> yeah :)
02:05 <ct|kyle> I've got the stuff
02:05 <smoothice> Oooh
02:05 <smoothice> where?
02:05 <smoothice> svn?
02:05 <ct|kyle> just have not added it to sty+ct
02:05 <ct|kyle> it on my PC
02:06 <smoothice> can you upload it somewhere?
02:06 <ct|kyle> in a day or 2 i think I'll merge it into sty+ct
02:06 <smoothice> can I just see the code lol?
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02:08 <ct|kyle> smoothice: I gotta find it
02:08 <luke-jr> lp:yandere
02:08 <BabyBug> what's that coded in?
02:09 <PinkTomato> ooo its PHP
02:11 <luke-jr> …
02:15 <smoothice> ct|kyle: did ya find it? I'm just curious cause I thought about making more kinds of zones that make the tron experience cool
02:15 <smoothice> ct|kyle: And I could make code and branch ct
02:15 <smoothice> ct|kyle: then if you liked it you could merge
02:16 <ct|kyle> this hack is just a hack off of the death zone
02:16 <ct|kyle> not a new zone
02:16 <smoothice> so then...
02:16 <smoothice> how?
02:16 <smoothice> DD racing uses both????
02:16 <ct|kyle> i want to create it as a new zone type to use spawn_Zone
02:16 <ct|kyle> not both in same map
02:17 <ct|kyle> it is a setting
02:17 <smoothice> oh
02:17 <smoothice> DEATH_ZONE_TYPE ?
02:17 <smoothice> or something like that
02:17 <PinkTomato> SZ_RUBBER
02:17 <smoothice> oh
02:17 <smoothice> k
02:17 <PinkTomato> DZ_RUBBER
02:17 <PinkTomato> with That being how much per tick
02:17 <ct|kyle> DZ_RUBBER
02:17 <ct|kyle> oh you beat me
02:18 <PinkTomato> works with shots too
02:18 <PinkTomato> made a CTFS server with them
02:18 <ct|kyle> that part must have been added in later than when i got this code
02:19 <smoothice> Can you pleaseeeee find the code? I'm excited
02:19 <PinkTomato> I can't remember how now.
02:19 <PinkTomato> smoothice: hoop.altervista.something
02:19 <PinkTomato> http://hoop.altervista.org/
02:19 <ct|kyle> smoothice: give me a few minutes and i'll merge it 5 small changes
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02:20 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: does yours have RACE_END_DELAY?
02:20 <smoothice> PinkTomato: hoop doesn't have gold zones up there
02:20 <ct|kyle> I think so
02:20 <smoothice> I just lookeded
02:20 <smoothice> it isn't lol
02:20 <PinkTomato> smoothice: this will be the right version then :)
02:21 <ct|kyle> i guess it does not
02:21 <PinkTomato> ah that was it
02:21 <PinkTomato> shots are death zones
02:21 <PinkTomato> so there were no changes
02:21 <ct|kyle> heh that is right :P
02:22 <ct|kyle> in 20 minutes i'll have it 1 way or the other
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02:28 <ct|kyle> .part
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02:29 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: so zombies would also be rubber zones too
02:29 <PinkTomato> I think so
02:30 <PinkTomato> not tried it
02:30 <ct|kyle> i am pretty sure i remember that in the code :P
02:31 <PinkTomato> I think there was a SHOT_RUBBER too though
02:31 <ct|kyle> could have been, not really hard to modify that
02:32 <ct|kyle> it would have been on zombies though
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03:15 <smoothice> ct|kyle: any luck?
03:18 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Tronix25/Xzombie/Grail-1.aamap.xml: Resource by Tronix25
03:18 <luke-jr> oh crap
03:19 <smoothice> ????
03:19 <luke-jr> better buy that N810 quick
03:19 <luke-jr> some lame company is trying to block Nokia from selling in US
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03:25 <ct|kyle> smoothice: About to try it
03:25 <ct|kyle> took longer than i thought sorry
03:25 <smoothice> ct
03:25 <smoothice> ct|kyle: it's fine
03:26 <ct|kyle> i made it for SPAWN_ZONE
03:28 <smoothice> ct|kyle: ok awesome... Cannot wait. Are you adding to sty+ct
03:28 <smoothice> ?
03:29 <ct|kyle> smoothice: once i test (fix a bug)
03:29 <smoothice> k
03:32 <smoothice> Lucifer: utf8-armagetronad-work
03:32 <smoothice> Lucifer: ????
03:32 <Lucifer> what about it and why are you asking me?
03:32 <smoothice> Not sure....
03:32 <smoothice> Just curious
03:32 <BabyBug> Has that been pushed to yet?
03:32 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: while you were gone
03:33 <BabyBug> ct|kyle?
03:33 <smoothice> ct|kyle: Tell me when you've pushed to sty+ct and I'll check it out.... thanks
03:33 <ct|kyle> utf8 was pushed to
03:34 <BabyBug> according to LP it still hasn't been pushed to...
03:34 <ct|kyle> smoothice: (lots of errors :/)
03:34 <Lucifer> it could take awhile
03:34 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: (17:49:05) armabot: armagetronad: z-man * r8838 /armagetronad/branches/utf8/armagetronad/src/network/nNetwork.cpp: Fixed sending zero length strings.
03:34 <Lucifer> that's a svn commit message
03:34 <BabyBug> oh that's svn..
03:34 <Lucifer> for z-man's actual user, not bazaarmagetron
03:35 <ct|kyle> ah
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03:46 <smoothice> ct|kyle: progress in the last ten minutes?
03:47 <luke-jr> TWG in #ArmaTWGeTRON!
03:47 <luke-jr> minus the !
03:48 <ct|kyle> smoothice: 2 errors
03:48 <smoothice> ct|kyle: w00t!
03:50 <ct|kyle> smoothice: 1*
03:50 <smoothice> ct|kyle: even better
03:55 <madmax> hey! someone fix the -0.0 bug!
03:56 <ct|kyle> madmax: what is that one?
03:56 <ct|kyle> smoothice: I think 0 now (must try it out)
03:56 <smoothice> ct|kyle: ok cool
04:02 <madmax> ct|kyle: not sure if it's dependent on the cockpit, but on the one I use, the brake meter goes from max to 0, and near 0 it goes through 0.0 and -0.0
04:03 <madmax> this isn't new anyway
04:06 <ct|kyle> smoothice: btw i still have 1
04:06 <smoothice> ct|kyle: ok
04:10 <smoothice> ct|kyle: be back soon
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04:18 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, you fail =P
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04:18 <smoothice> ct|kyle: back.... any progress?
04:20 <ct|kyle> smoothice: bugs gone , not working :/
04:42 <@armabot> armacommits: [utf8-armagetronad-work] r794 Fixed sending zero length strings.... || [utf8-armagetronad-work] r793 Fixed GCC 4.3 warnings.... || [utf8-armagetronad-work] r792 Fixed utf8 conversion. Thanks to gcc for the warnings :)... || [utf8-armagetronad-work] r791 Made nDescriptor::ID const.... || [utf8-armagetronad-work] r790 Re-applied changes from old utf8 branch, now found at...
04:43 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: you FAIL, i bet you can't do what i am doing
04:43 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, i bet i can!
04:43 <ct|kyle> implement SPAWN_ZONE rubber ........
04:43 <BabyBug> easy!
04:43 <ct|kyle> LIES
04:43 <ct|kyle> prove it
04:44 <BabyBug> i've said this before..i don't know c++..of course i couldn't do it you twit
04:44 <BabyBug> But you still fail
04:45 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: you FAIl too
04:45 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, the difference appears to be, I'm the only one who doesn't have a problem with it =P
04:53 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Tronix25/Xzombie/Grail-2.aamap.xml: Resource by Tronix25
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05:09 <BabyBug> Stewah!
05:09 <Stewah> BabyBug!
05:09 <BabyBug> liar
05:09 <Stewah> D:
05:09 <Stewah> How dare thou?
05:10 <BabyBug> it's quite easy really, i pushed down 5 times on the keyboard :D
05:10 <Stewah> lol
05:10 <Stewah> But who's the liar? D:
05:11 <BabyBug> you
05:11 <Stewah> About what?
05:11 <BabyBug> no idea, i'm sure you've lied about something in your lifetime
05:11 <Stewah> lol
05:11 <Stewah> it is quite possible
05:11 <Stewah> but then wouldn't you also be a liar?
05:12 <BabyBug> I only lied to people i hate, so that doesn't count
05:12 <Stewah> Does too
05:12 <BabyBug> does not
05:12 <Stewah> Does too
05:12 <BabyBug> does not
05:12 <Stewah> Does too
05:12 <BabyBug> #kick Stewah DOES NOT!
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05:12 <BabyBug> xD
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05:13 <Stewah> D:
05:13 <BabyBug> Hiya! =P
05:13 <Stewah> Auotjoin didn't work? D:
05:13 <Stewah> oh wait
05:13 <Stewah> nvm
05:13 <Stewah> lol
05:13 <BabyBug> lol ^^
05:13 <Stewah> Does too
05:13 <Stewah> :D
05:13 <BabyBug> ......
05:17 <ct|kyle> #weather 46814
05:17 <@armabot> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Tanbark, Fort Wayne, Indiana is -8.1°F (11:14 PM EST on January 16, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: -14.8°F. Windchill: -7.6°F. Pressure: 30.60 in 1036.1 hPa (Falling).  Wind chill warning in effect until 7 am EST Saturday...
05:18 <BabyBug> why are americans so fascinated by the weater?
05:18 <Stewah> La Jolla, CA / Clear / 57°F 14°C / Humidity: 14% / Wind: S at 1 mph
05:18 <Stewah> Why not?
05:18 <Lucifer> oh good, I get to keep working with my favorite instructor this semester
05:18 <Lucifer> #weather 78729
05:18 <BabyBug> \o/
05:18 <@armabot> Lucifer: The current temperature in Anderson Mill / Parmer, Austin, Texas is 45.7°F (10:15 PM CST on January 16, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 28.4°F. Windchill: 46.4°F. Pressure: 30.48 in 1032.1 hPa (Falling).
05:18 <BabyBug> Everything's going right Lucifer \o/
05:18 <Lucifer> BabyBug: because unlike the UK, the weather in America actually changed from day to day
05:19 <Lucifer> BabyBug: :)
05:19 <BabyBug> it changes here from day to day too...
05:19 <Lucifer> from wet to wetter and back again?
05:19 <BabyBug> no...from wet, to cold and back again
05:19 <Lucifer> heh
05:19 <BabyBug> =P
05:20 <Lucifer> just wait until the summer, when we all start waving our dicks around about who's got the worst summer weather
05:20  * Lucifer usually wins that one
05:20 <BabyBug> Summer here hasn't be -too- bad last couple of years
05:20 <Stewah> lol
05:20 <BabyBug> been having heatwaves every summer
05:20 <Stewah> Lucifer: you cheat with that one
05:21 <Lucifer> Stewah: cheating is .... ?
05:21 <Lucifer> using my devilish powers?
05:21 <Stewah> yes
05:21 <Lucifer> heh
05:21 <Lucifer> there's a reason people say Texas is hotter than hell....
05:21 <Lucifer> IT'S NOT BECAUSE I LIVE HERE!
05:21 <BabyBug> Hey! That utf branch actually works!!
05:22 <BabyBug> sort of..
05:22 <Lucifer> of course, z-man touched it
05:22 <Lucifer> whatever z-man touches magically works
05:22 <Lucifer> whatever I touch magically breaks
05:22 <BabyBug> the only problem is...the Headers for the server browser are out of alignment
05:22 <Lucifer> that's why he's on the stable branch and I'm on the development branch
05:22 <Lucifer> server browser needs a rewrite
05:22 <BabyBug> and on the main menu it has "main_menu_about_text" instead of About
05:22 <Lucifer> hell, all the gui stuff needs a rewrite
05:22 <BabyBug> lol
05:23 <Lucifer> oh yeah, I downloaded the zend framework so I could fool with it
05:25 <BabyBug> zend is the encrypt thingy right?
05:25 <Lucifer> no, php application framework
05:26 <Lucifer> I just remembered something that was really cool, though
05:26 <BabyBug> Oh
05:26 <BabyBug> what's that thing which encrypts PHP code?
05:26 <Lucifer> the guys that interviewed me said they'd run my resume through the validator, css too
05:26 <Lucifer> zend might do that too, there's the zend optimizer
05:26 <BabyBug> ah right thought it was ^^
05:26 <Lucifer> he said my resume was one of the first that actually validated, and most that they'd received didn't validate
05:26 <BabyBug> haha nice =)
05:28 <BabyBug> z-main should of merged that into the main trunk! (it'd help force it get finished xD)
05:29 <BabyBug> Lucifer, had you validated it yourself when you made it?
05:29 <Lucifer> it's been awhile
05:29 <Lucifer> I check it periodically, though, when it's been through revisions
05:29 <Lucifer> so I validated the last website layout I made (the green one, you probably didn't see it)
05:29 <Lucifer> since I only did a facelift earlier this month, I didn't re-check it
05:30 <Lucifer> but see, it's a generated site
05:30 <BabyBug> ah
05:30 <BabyBug> generated?
05:30 <Lucifer> I use txt2tags to generate it, and most/all of the custom xhtml I've added to it has already been tested quite a bit
05:30 <BabyBug> >< lol
05:32 <BabyBug> what timezone is z-man in?
05:32 <Stewah> the other one
05:32 <Lucifer> UTC+1 I think
05:32 <Lucifer> He's in Cologne
05:32 <BabyBug> he's in where? O.o
05:33 <BabyBug> <-- crappy at geography
05:33 <BabyBug> #google Cologne
05:33 <@armabot> BabyBug: Search took 0.14 seconds: Cologne - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cologne>; Cologne - City online: <http://www.koeln.de/en/>; Discount Cologne and Discount Fragrances - Perfume.com: <http://www.perfume.com/men>; AskMen.com - Men's cologne: <http://www.askmen.com/fashion/trends/17_fashion_men.html>; Cologne and after shave at FragranceX.com: (2 more messages)
05:34 <BabyBug> ahhh Germany
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05:35 <BabyBug> where are there 3 fricken ivantis' in here again
05:35 <BabyBug> s/where/why/
05:36 <Lucifer> #kick ivantis_ I love kicking ivantis
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05:36 <Lucifer> #kick ivantis2 I love kicking ivantis
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05:36 <Lucifer> #kick ivantis3 I love kicking ivantis
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05:36 <BabyBug> >< lol
05:36 <Lucifer> we'll see which one comes back
05:37 <BabyBug> ivantis3 is the crappy little bot
05:37 <BabyBug> ivantis_ was running max
05:37 <BabyBug> ivantis2 was running ubuntu
05:37 <BabyBug> mac*
05:38 <BabyBug> i say ban the lot of em!
05:38 <BabyBug> *evil*
05:41 <BabyBug> How's 0.3.1 coming along anywhoo? (what's holding it back)
05:41 <smoothice> I don't give a crud to 0.3
05:41 <smoothice> Who cares when it isn't even publicized?
05:41 <smoothice> Despite it's unstability
05:42 <Lucifer> 0.3.1 is currently paused while I take care of personal shit
05:43 <Lucifer> on the flip side, though, I'll be able to work on the windows build stuff myself when school starts again
05:43 <BabyBug> smoothice, If no one cared, no one would test/report bugs, which means no progress would ever be made and there will never be a new version
05:43 <smoothice> lol
05:43 <smoothice> ok
05:43 <BabyBug> (and it's better than 0.2.x)
05:47 <BabyBug> Lucifer, There should be no windows build!
05:47 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r654 Adding Rubber zones
05:47 <Lucifer> but 90% of our audience is windows users!  We need them to help test!
05:48 <BabyBug> It is? O.o
05:48 <Lucifer> I may be too sleepy to figure out this zend stuff right now
05:49 <BabyBug> Are there any real stats as to what os people are using? :P
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05:53 <ivantis2> hey that wasnt nice
05:53 <Lucifer> the master server
05:53 <BabyBug> #kick ivantis2 my turn, my turn!
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05:54 <BabyBug> oh it does actually find out? welll
05:54 <BabyBug> Hrmm why isn't he coming back ><
05:55 <Lucifer> whenever I get my master server running again, I'll try to remember to write some good reports
05:55 <Lucifer> hey, maybe you could do that :)
05:55 <Lucifer> just a little python
05:55 <BabyBug> =D
05:55 <Lucifer> it's actually easy python, even
05:56 <Lucifer> it's all string parsing, counting, and writing to a file (write xhtml to the file and I can put it on my website)
05:56 <BabyBug> cool =D
05:56 <BabyBug> i can do that easy peesy
06:00 <Lucifer> you just need a copy of the log, or at least a sample
06:00 <BabyBug> yup
06:00 <Lucifer> I don't have a copy, my master server is currently sitting in a physics lab that I have to drive to
06:00 <Lucifer> hit up z-man, guru3, or wrtlprnft
06:00 <Lucifer> I think they've got the other master servers
06:01 <BabyBug> arf it would be all the guys who are sleeping ><
06:02 <Lucifer> sorry
06:02 <BabyBug> lol
06:02 <Lucifer> I'm afriad to drive my car right now, I've gotten 3 tickes in 3 months for driving without insurance
06:02 <Lucifer> I may already be doomed
06:02 <BabyBug> O.o
06:02 <Lucifer> also, until the semester starts, I don't know when someone will be in that lab to let me retrieve my computer
06:02 <BabyBug> why don't you have insurance? lmao
06:02 <Lucifer> because I don't have the money
06:03 <Lucifer> last few months have been a little rough
06:03 <BabyBug> oh =(
06:03 <BabyBug> New job now though \o/
06:03 <Lucifer> :)
06:04 <BabyBug> armabot needs a feature to #m the first out of x amount of people to show up :D
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06:09 <Lucifer> armabot's written in python
06:14 <BabyBug> it is
06:14 <BabyBug> lol
06:14 <BabyBug> i thought it was a supybot?
06:15 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: ya wich is python
06:15 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, i know =P The way lucifer said it, sounded a bit like it was coded from scratch by wrtl =)
06:15 <ct|kyle> parts are probably :P
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06:25 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Tronix25/PsychotropiC/Metropolis-1.aamap.xml: Resource by Tronix25
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06:43 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Tronix25/PsychotropiC/Metropolis-2.aamap.xml: Resource by Tronix25
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06:58 <Lucifer> heh, I think I might have had someone who's not a bot answer my trolling personal ad on craigslist
07:00 <BabyBug> lol
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07:42  * BabyBug hates math!
07:47  * BabyBug pokes Lucifer 
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08:21 <BabyBug> Lucifer, know of a way to round UP a float in python? so.... 2.2 would round up to 3?
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09:07 <Lizmatic> mornin'
09:09 <epsy> hi
09:10 <BabyBug> Hiya!
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09:12 <epsy> #eightball why does it keep crashing ?
09:12 <@armabot> epsy: It is possible.
09:12 <epsy> #eightball why does it keep crashing ?
09:12 <@armabot> epsy: Of course.
09:13 <epsy> answer correctly, duh
09:13 <epsy> #eightball why does it keep crashing ?
09:13 <@armabot> epsy: Yes!
09:13 <epsy> #eightball why does it keep crashing ?
09:13 <@armabot> epsy: It shall be.
09:14 <BabyBug> what keeps crashing?
09:14 <epsy> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18978&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
09:14 <epsy> the 100% working server
09:15 <BabyBug> i see
09:15  * BabyBug goes back to her math
09:16 <epsy> try to use python, it's easier for computing 1+1
09:16 <BabyBug> i am using python!
09:16 <BabyBug> =P
09:16 <epsy> rofl :D
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09:16 <BabyBug> I'm making a graph generator! \o/
09:17 <BabyBug> (i'm bored, haven't slept, and it's a chance to learn how to use PIL =P)
09:18 <BabyBug> speaking of crashes though. where's teabot?
09:19 <epsy> ded
09:22 <Lizmatic> I'm waiting for naruto shippuuden 92 to download, slow torrent
09:23 <BabyBug> addict!
09:25 <epsy> we will laugh when she realises she downloaded hentaï
09:25 <Lizmatic> and once I receive my paycheck I'll buy a new blackberry because my old one is boring
09:25 <Lizmatic> o/
09:26 <epsy> you didn't eat it already?
09:29  * epsy is still waiting for his new phone
09:30  * BabyBug dances up and down... wooo utf works \o/
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12:10 <wrtlprnft> woot, the new utf-8 branch works for me :-)
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12:50 <Lizmatic> epsy, what phone did you buy? :)
12:50 <epsy> n95
12:56 <Lizmatic> ew, why
12:57 <epsy> because I don't want a tactile samsung
13:10 <@armabot> armacommits: [multifetch] r5 Allow hybrid fetches for incomplete branches, for example...
13:28 <epsy> Right, TST is fucked.
13:36 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8839 /armagetronad/branches/utf8/armagetronad/ (. configure.ac):
13:36 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
13:36 <@armabot> armagetronad: Checking for header FTGL/ftgl.h which we're using now, and which
13:36 <@armabot> armagetronad: conveniently appeared right at the time all char* input started
13:36 <@armabot> armagetronad: getting interpreted as UTF8 by ftgl, which we now want to rely on.
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14:13 <@armabot> armacommits: [utf8-armagetronad-work] r795 Checking for header FTGL/ftgl.h which we're using now, and w...
14:14 <wrtlprnft> #help #armacommits
14:14 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: There is no command "#armacommits".
14:14 <wrtlprnft> #help armacommits
14:14 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: (armacommits [<number of headlines>]) -- Reports the titles for armacommits at the RSS feed <http://feeds.launchpad.net/armagetronad/revisions.atom>. If <number of headlines> is given, returns only that many headlines. RSS feeds are only looked up every supybot.plugins.RSS.waitPeriod seconds, which defaults to 1800 (30 minutes) since that's what most websites prefer.
14:15 <wrtlprnft> nice catch, whoever found that…
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15:18 <K-Yo> hey, only sty has svg output?
15:21 <zmanuel> Dunno, how is it activated?
15:23 <zmanuel> I'd even say only ct+sty has it. I don't remember it being in sty.
15:30 <wrtlprnft> sty+ct has it, yeah
15:31 <wrtlprnft> zmanuel: hmm, i now have two completely different machines which refuse to compile arma with zthread…
15:31 <wrtlprnft> one of the tests gets run with gcc instead of g++
15:31 <zmanuel> oh?
15:32 <wrtlprnft> the one that just compiles #include <zthread/ZThread.h>\nmain(return 0;)
15:38 <zmanuel> I only get one test compilation, compiling a complicated file.
15:39 <zmanuel> And that's done with g++. CXX is copied over to CC for that test.
15:39 <wrtlprnft> i know
15:40 <wrtlprnft> but in config.log it still says gcc
15:40 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/config.log
15:40 <wrtlprnft> reverse search for ftgl
15:42 <zmanuel> ./conftest: error while loading shared libraries: libZThread-2.3.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
15:43 <zmanuel> sounds like your prefix/lib directory is not in the library search path
15:43 <zmanuel> (that's before the faulty gcc test is executed)
15:44 <wrtlprnft> hmm
15:45 <zmanuel> The gcc error is in the "checking why previous test failed" bit.
15:45 <zmanuel> Of course, it's still an error we should fix :)
15:48 <wrtlprnft> thanks, now it's working :-)
15:48 <zmanuel> also, the test adds -lZThread even if it fails.
15:48 <zmanuel> buggedybug.
15:49 <wrtlprnft> now, next issue: it checks for ftgl.h without first including whatever CFLAGS ftgl wants
15:49 <wrtlprnft> so if ftgl is installed in a prefix the test fails even if ftgl is recent enough
15:51 <zmanuel> Hmm, it does add the pkgconfig cflags output for ftgl to cppflags before the check.
15:52 <zmanuel> can I get the output of 'pkg-config ftgl --cflags'?
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15:54 <wrtlprnft> mathias@earth 1 $ PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/home/mathias/armagetronad3/ftgl/lib/pkgconfig pkg-config ftgl --cflags                                                        ~/armagetronad3/utf8-armagetronad-work/build2
15:54 <wrtlprnft> -I/home/mathias/armagetronad3/ftgl/include -I/home/mathias/armagetronad3/ftgl/include/FTGL
15:54 <wrtlprnft> mathias@earth $ ls /home/mathias/armagetronad3/ftgl/include -I/home/mathias/armagetronad3/ftgl/include/FTGL                                                      ~/armagetronad3/utf8-armagetronad-work/build2
15:54 <wrtlprnft> FTGL
15:54 <zmanuel> also, grr:
15:54 <zmanuel> /usr/local/include/FTGL/ftgl.h:81:1: error: C++ style comments are not allowed in ISO C90
15:54 <zmanuel> /usr/local/include/FTGL/ftgl.h:81:1: error: (this will be reported only once per input file)
15:55 <zmanuel> and an updated config.log?
15:55 <wrtlprnft> done, same location
15:58 <zmanuel> The flags get added fine, but something is borked about your headers.
15:58 <zmanuel> The custom prefix headers probably include incompatible system wide headers.
15:58 <zmanuel> In file included from /home/mathias/armagetronad3/ftgl/include/FTGL/ftgl.h:32,
15:58 <zmanuel>                  from conftest.c:57:
15:58 <zmanuel> /usr/include/ft2build.h:56:38: error: freetype/config/ftheader.h: No such file or directory
15:58 <zmanuel> In file included from conftest.c:57:
15:59 <zmanuel> Do you have freetype also installed in a custom spot?
15:59 <wrtlprnft> no, it's supposed to use the systemwide one
15:59 <wrtlprnft> shouldn't that be possible somehow?
16:00 <zmanuel> Sure.
16:00 <zmanuel> The problem is that for me, FTGL cflags include the freetype include path
16:00 <zmanuel> for you, they don't.
16:00 <zmanuel> Easy solution: test for freetype before testing for FTGL
16:01 <zmanuel> and add their include path, too.
16:01 <wrtlprnft> configure:14865: gcc -E  -I/usr/include/libxml2 -I/usr/include/SDL -D_GNU_SOURCE=1 -D_REENTRANT -I/home/mathias/armagetronad3/ftgl/include -I/home/mathias/armagetronad3/ftgl/include/FTGL   conftest.c
16:01 <wrtlprnft> why the hell is it using gcc again? :o
16:02 <wrtlprnft> by the way, this is fedora 10, if that helps
16:04 <zmanuel> It's using gcc because it's using gcc for all tests.
16:04 <wrtlprnft> so this isn't an issue if the included files are c++?
16:04 <zmanuel> of course it's an issue :)
16:04  * zmanuel checks autotool docs
16:04 <wrtlprnft> that's what i though
16:04 <wrtlprnft> t
16:06 <zmanuel> Aha. I think we need to rewrite stuff a bit :)
16:06 <zmanuel> There's AC_LANG
16:07 <zmanuel> you can pass it C++ as an argument, and then the following tests will be done using CXX.
16:07 <wrtlprnft> that sounds reasonable
16:07 <zmanuel> So it seems the recommended way to handle stuff is this:
16:07 <zmanuel> - test all C libraries
16:07 <wrtlprnft> if it works…
16:07 <zmanuel> - AC_LANG([C++])
16:07 <zmanuel> - Test all C++ libraries.
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16:08 <zmanuel> Of course, that's all guessing, and we should look at the actual docs. /me just googled.
16:08 <zmanuel> anyway, cooking time.
16:08 <epsy> PIE!
16:08 <wrtlprnft> guten appetit.
16:11 <wrtlprnft> (http://example.org/test?a=b&c)
16:11 <wrtlprnft> interesting
16:11 <wrtlprnft> konsole 4.x tries to detect links
16:12 <epsy> gives a 404
16:12 <epsy> :O
16:12 <wrtlprnft> no, that was just for me
16:12 <wrtlprnft> should have bothered armabot with that, but i was too lazy :-P
16:18 <Lizmatic> epsy, if you don't get your rights back, tst won't happen? :)
16:19 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8840 /armagetronad/branches/utf8/armagetronad/ (. textures/Armagetronad.ttf textures/armagetronad.sfd):
16:19 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: mathias
16:19 <@armabot> armagetronad: Merged luke-jr's new characters from the trunk. Please only add new UTF-8 chars here, they can't be used in a non-utf8 branch, anyways.
16:19 <@armabot> armagetronad: Also got rid of tons of warnings about self-intersecting glyphs and path segments with extrema != endpoints.
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16:22 <@armabot> armacommits: [utf8-armagetronad-work] r796 Merged luke-jr's new characters from the trunk. Please only ...
16:24 <smoothice> #aawiki zonesv2
16:24 <@armabot> smoothice: No matches found. (Search took 0.47 seconds)
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16:26 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: Were you able to make SPAWN_ZONE rubber?
16:26 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: yes
16:27 <PinkTomato> so you can have rubber and death zones in the same level now?
16:29 <zmanuel> wrtlprnft: quick fix, just move the test for ftgl.h after the tests for freetype. or disable it.
16:29 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: rubber zones are a new type of zone, have nothing to do with death zones
16:29 <Lucifer> oh yeah, the trunk needs to let us point to a different ftgl than the sys-installed one
16:30  * Lucifer won't be able to install the new version for a little bit
16:30 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: Oh, OK, I stand corrected then :)
16:30 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: I plan on creating a new DTD with them
16:34 <wrtlprnft> zmanuel: my quick fix was passing configure a custom CXXFLAGS. Unless you want me to commit your quick fix I'm semi-happy now.
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16:37 <epsy> #google ubuntu bots
16:37 <@armabot> epsy: Search took 0.25 seconds: The official Ubuntu bots in Launchpad: <https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots>; UbuntuBots - Ubuntu Wiki: <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots>; New Bantracker bot commands: <https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-irc/2008-July/000526.html>; Regarding IRC Bots: <https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-irc/2007-March/000229.html>; “~tsimpson/ ubuntu - bots (2 more messages)
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16:45 <smoothice> Lucifer: Where can I find a working Zones v2 map?
16:48 <wrtlprnft> epsy: woot, zthread works again on café
16:48 <epsy> #last --with rain
16:48 <@armabot> epsy: [22:05:15] <epsy> wrtlprnft, "rain's binary" is what's in ~rain/arma-0.2.8-bzr/ ?
16:49 <wrtlprnft> smoothice: http://crazy-tronners.com/resource/ed/zones_v2/
16:49 <wrtlprnft> epsy: probably
16:50 <epsy> right O:-)
16:53 <wrtlprnft> *btest*
16:53 <wrtlprnft> hmm, konsole 4 can also do boldface now
16:54 <epsy> does it do smileys too?
16:54 <wrtlprnft> it does do luke's smileys
16:54 <epsy> haha
16:55 <wrtlprnft> honesty, i'd never use a terminal which did graphic smileys
16:55 <PinkTomato> if it does similes it must do useful characters?
17:08 <wrtlprnft> it does all chars that are in utf-8 and in my fonts
17:08 <wrtlprnft> why the hell does yum sort packets by size while downloading them?
17:12 <zmanuel> only to annoy you, and you personally, of course.
17:13 <wrtlprnft> well, i'm at 636/654 packages
17:13 <wrtlprnft> and just noticed that i'm about 1/3 done
17:14 <wrtlprnft> at least the mirror i'm using is doing 1.5MB/s
17:15 <wrtlprnft> anyways, i just wanted to know if anyone here could spontaneously come up with a good technical reason for that
17:16 <Flex> epsy, what rights do you want for the tst?
17:16 <wrtlprnft> makes you wonder what the biggest package will be, though
17:16 <Flex> not mature enought to come to the right person, you have to bother angel
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17:20 <smoothice> PinkTomato: SUCCESS!
17:26 <BabyBug> Helloooooo
17:26 <PinkTomato> Hello! BabyBug:)
17:34 <BabyBug> wrtlprnft, ping!
17:34 <wrtlprnft> ?
17:34 <epsy> is the right person you?
17:34 <BabyBug> wrtlprnft, you have a log from the master server?
17:34 <wrtlprnft> yeah
17:34 <wrtlprnft> from mine, anyways
17:34 <BabyBug> Could i have it please? *looks with big puppy dog eyes*
17:34 <wrtlprnft> err, i think we don't usually do that
17:35 <wrtlprnft> what do you need from it?
17:35 <BabyBug> Lucifer, told me to bother you for one...
17:35 <wrtlprnft> i do have a log, but after all it contains a line for every fifth arma player, so i don't think i'm even allowed to give it out freely
17:35 <epsy> and Flex: I need ssh access for this.
17:36 <Flex> why?
17:36 <epsy> bzr
17:36 <wrtlprnft> legally i mean
17:36 <BabyBug> wrtlprnft, awww...too quote luci it's to " write some good reports"
17:36 <epsy> and mysql
17:36 <Flex> what do you need to do?
17:36 <wrtlprnft> reports on what?
17:37 <epsy> Flex, read and edit the DB, and change files
17:37 <BabyBug> OS' and whatever details it gives
17:37 <Flex> fine
17:37 <wrtlprnft> i don't have that kind of info
17:37 <BabyBug> oh ><
17:37 <wrtlprnft> afaik only the main master has that
17:37 <wrtlprnft> so bug zmanuel 
17:38 <wrtlprnft> *phew*
17:38 <BabyBug> lol
17:38 <madmax> lol
17:38 <BabyBug> zmanuel, pong =P
17:43 <madmax> is there a way to increase the chat/console history?
17:44 <epsy> yes
17:44 <epsy> .cfg2 buffer
17:44 <wrtlprnft> #cfg history
17:44 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: HISTORY_SIZE_CHAT: Number of lines kept in the chat history. (default: 10) || HISTORY_SIZE_CONSOLE: Number of lines kept in the console history. (default: 10)
17:44 <wrtlprnft> :---P
17:45 <epsy> gnaaa
17:45 <madmax> thanks
17:45 <wrtlprnft> probably should be something > 10 by default
17:45 <wrtlprnft> yw
17:47 <madmax> and btw, is there something to enable the client to complete/make suggestions for partial commands? I see it does so on 0.2.8 but not on trunk
17:48 <wrtlprnft> err, should be the other way round
17:48 <epsy> chat commands?
17:48 <wrtlprnft> 0.2.8 doesn't have tab completion at all
17:48 <madmax> no, I mean when you simply enter "rubber" in the console and it suggests cycle_rubber, etc
17:49 <epsy> that should work in both
17:49 <wrtlprnft> trunk should do that
17:49 <madmax> hmm, I have a build here that doesn't
17:49 <wrtlprnft> wtf.
17:55 <madmax> it just stays silent heh: http://i42.tinypic.com/292xt3k.png
17:56 <Flex> c00l c0ckpit! :p
17:56 <wrtlprnft> there's some config option iirc
17:56 <wrtlprnft> #cfg suggest
17:56 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: Sorry, no matches :S
17:56 <wrtlprnft> #cfg console
17:56 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: CONSOLE_COLUMNS: Number of characters in each line of console output (default: 78) || CONSOLE_MESSAGE: Prints a message on the console of all connected clients. (default: ) || CONSOLE_ROWS: Number of lines of console output without user intervention (default: 5) || CONSOLE_ROWS_MAX: Number of lines of console output when scrolling back (default: 19) || HISTORY_SIZE_CONSOLE: Number of (1 more message)
17:57 <wrtlprnft> #more
17:57 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: lines kept in the console history. (default: 10) || KEYBOARD 96 PLAYER_BIND CONSOLE_INPUT 0 : || KEYBOARD 94 PLAYER_BIND CONSOLE_INPUT 0 : || ROUND_CONSOLE_MESSAGE: Message sent to clients after every round (default: )
18:00 <madmax> guess not -_-
18:01 <wrtlprnft> you don't happen to use macos?
18:02 <madmax> er, yes
18:04 <wrtlprnft> #ifdef MACOSX printErrors = false;
18:04 <wrtlprnft> #endif if (printErrors)
18:04 <madmax> lol
18:04 <wrtlprnft> // error message code comes here
18:06 <madmax> why would it be set to false here :-(
18:06 <madmax> think I'm going to change that and see if it explodes
18:07 <madmax> tConfig right?
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18:09 <wrtlprnft> yeah
18:09 <wrtlprnft> line 420 for me
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18:13 <madmax> uh, seems to work fine
18:15 <madmax> I'll tell nemo to check it out :P thanks again
18:19 <madmax> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/trunk-armagetronad-work/revision/322
18:25 <wrtlprnft> yw
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18:29 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Tronix25/Xzombie/Deaths-Grip-1.aamap.xml: Resource by Tronix25
18:29 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Tronix25/Xzombie/Deaths-Grip-2.aamap.xml: Resource by Tronix25
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18:52 <sinewav> Lucifer?
18:52 <ivantis2> sinewav?
18:52 <sinewav> ivantis?
18:53  * ivantis2 ?
18:53 <ct|kyle> sinewav?
18:53 <ivantis2> ct|kyle?
18:53 <ct|kyle> epsy?
18:53 <sinewav> ok, I'm making sounds for arma. will there e stereo support for game sounds in 0.3?
18:54 <epsy> you mean, like announcer sounds?
18:55 <epsy> otherwise I don't see where stereo sounds are useful
18:55 <sinewav> like, if I had a stereo explosion
18:55 <sinewav> dietron.wav
18:55 <sinewav> `you know
18:55 <epsy> I don't have a logic fopr rendering positionned stereo sounds
18:55 <ivantis2> """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""wait huh?
18:56 <ivantis2> """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""?? whats with the quotes?
18:56 <ivantis2> """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""wut is going on?
18:56 <ct|kyle> #kick ivantis2
18:56 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
18:57 <epsy> I don't know, but could you figure this out in another channel?
18:57 <ivantis2> """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""aw, this is a really unstable client
18:57 <ivantis2> """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""okay
18:57 <madmax> go to #freenode
18:58 <ivantis2> """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""im pretty sure its client related, i had a similar problem with this earlier
18:58 <ivantis2> """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""hold on
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18:58 <ct|kyle> now ban :)
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18:59 <ivantis2> the quotes still there?
18:59 <ivantis2> ah good
18:59 <epsy> no
18:59 <epsy> wait, yes there are
18:59 <epsy> ct|kyle, is it just me or..?
19:00 <BabyBug> can see em here too ><
19:00 <ct|kyle> `ya i can see em
19:01 <ivantis2> oh nose
19:01 <epsy> ok can you really really fix them, but elsewhere?
19:01 <ivantis2> wot cani do?
19:02 <epsy> idk, just leave!
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19:04 <ivantis2_> oosp, accidental reboot
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19:04 <ivantis2_> is ivantis2 here?
19:04 <smoothice> yes
19:05 <ct|kyle> epsy: what is that link we need to send smoothice :P
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19:05 <ivantis2_> tmodns fails
19:05 <epsy> ct|kyle, what??
19:06 <ct|kyle> epsy: smoothice_away is now known as smoothice
19:06 <epsy> oh
19:06 <epsy> http://www.bitches-irc.net/awaymsgs.html
19:07 <epsy> #op
19:07 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o epsy] by armabot
19:07 -!- epsy changed the topic of #armagetron to: CAKE! | Latest Version: 0.2.8.2.1 | http://www.armagetronad.net/ | Gentoo? layman -ka armagetron | pastebin: http://rafb.net/paste/ | Logs: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armalogs/ | Tournaments: #armagetron.tourneys
19:07 -!- ChanServ changed the topic of #armagetron to: PIE! | Latest Version: 0.2.8.2.1 | http://www.armagetronad.net/ | Gentoo? layman -ka armagetron | pastebin: http://rafb.net/paste/ | Logs: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armalogs/ | Tournaments: #armagetron.tourneys
19:07 -!- mode/#armagetron [+t-o epsy] by ChanServ
19:07 <epsy> ouch
19:07 <epsy> sorry smoothice
19:07 <BabyBug> lol epsy fail
19:07 <smoothice> ?
19:07 <smoothice> huh?
19:08 <ivantis2_> huh?
19:08 <epsy> smoothice, chanserv wants to keep PIE
19:08 <smoothice> what?
19:08 <smoothice> oh
19:08 <smoothice> hmm
19:08 <smoothice> fine
19:08 <smoothice> lol
19:08 <smoothice> epsy
19:08 <smoothice> do /msg ChanServ set #armagetron GUARD ON
19:08 <ivantis2_> #alias add away http://www.bitches-irc.net/awaymsgs.html
19:08 <@armabot> ivantis2_: The operation succeeded.
19:08 <epsy> 1/ I can't do that
19:08 <smoothice> e#away
19:08 <smoothice> #away
19:09 <epsy> 2/ I don't see why I would do that
19:09 <smoothice> epsy: ok
19:09 <ivantis2_> #op
19:09 <@armabot> ivantis2_: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
19:09 <ivantis2_> epsy gets it, i do not? lame
19:10 <epsy> lamer than having 32 quotes in front of what you write
19:10 <ivantis2_> i at times am more mature than epsy
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19:10 <epsy> is that good?
19:10 <ivantis2_> yes
19:11 <epsy> at times?
19:11 <ivantis2_> you know what i mean
19:11 <epsy> so, never?
19:11 <BabyBug> mature people don't say "i'm more mature" xD
19:11 <ivantis2_> i guess you dont know what i mean
19:12 <epsy> is that good?
19:12  * epsy could be replaced by a chatbot
19:12 <ivantis2_> yeah, you arent mature enough to
19:12 <BabyBug> :s i thought you were a chatbot?
19:12 <ivantis2_> wait, what?
19:13 <ivantis2_> ...that just abolished my way of thinking
19:13 <epsy> ivantis2_, oh, shit, I am level 62 on maturity, how much should I have??
19:13 <ivantis2_> level 62? what scale?
19:13 <epsy> ...
19:13 <epsy> you don't know that scale? OMG LAME !!!111
19:14 <ivantis2_> no i donot
19:14 <epsy> lame
19:14 <epsy> so I guess you don't know what I mean
19:15 <sinewav> I'm mature as in "ripe"
19:15 <ivantis2_> http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/100408/anonymous-hacker-alert.gif
19:16 <ct|kyle> ivantis2_: those dam """'s
19:16 <ivantis2_> yep
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19:16 <epsy> is that picture even meant to be funny?
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19:17 <epsy> ah, well, will ask another time
19:17 <epsy> hello SageLoard
19:17 <SageLord> hiya
19:17 <ct|kyle> oi SageLord
19:17 <ct|kyle> SageLord: so do you need a server from CT?
19:18 <SageLord> i think it would be a good idea
19:18 <SageLord> instead of compguygene's server
19:18 <madmax> http://www.geenstijl.nl/archives/images/fosforgroot.jpg ouch...
19:18 <madmax> (gaza)
19:19 <SageLord> yikes
19:19 <epsy> This doesn't have HDR.
19:19 <SageLord> ct|kyle: would that be ok?
19:19 <epsy> (sorry)
19:19 <ct|kyle> SageLord: what settings?
19:19 <ct|kyle> SageLord: and who to give admin to
19:19 <SageLord> the last ladle (ladle 17?) settings
19:19 <ct|kyle> ok
19:20 <epsy> so 2v2 unconquerable :(
19:20 <SageLord> sorry :/
19:20 <SageLord> ok, so i've never really run a tournament before, who should i get for admin?
19:20 <epsy> first of all, yourself
19:20 <ct|kyle> i would say team captins
19:20 <SageLord> should i try to get someone who isn't playing?  i'm not sure if anyone would be available
19:20 <ct|kyle> and you :P
19:20 <SageLord> all right
19:21 <SageLord> so we'll have x server, ct server, and pink tomatoes server
19:21 <epsy> so ladel 17 settings?
19:21 <SageLord> yessir
19:22 <epsy> then for admins i'd need GIDs
19:22 <ct|kyle> SageLord: Crazy Tronners Ladle Fortress 2, just pm me the names that get admin's
19:22 <ct|kyle> and i'll update the server binary
19:24 <SageLord> i don't actually know how to admin a server
19:24 <SageLord> lol
19:25 <Lizmatic> NOOB
19:25 <SageLord> 'tis true :/
19:26 <Flex> you do /quit to start
19:26 <Flex> ;)
19:26 <SageLord> haha
19:26 <Flex> don't be fooled by the command.. it's poor naming by the devs
19:27 <epsy> and it doesn't even exist
19:27 <SageLord> lol
19:32 <SageLord> ok
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19:32 <SageLord> so we still need to decide which servers for each match up
19:32 <arrow> hi
19:32 <SageLord> so now we have 2 euro servers and an american server
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19:33 <Flex> ah yeah sage, it's /admin quit
19:34 <SageLord> all right, thanks flex
19:34 <zmanuel> BabyBug: what do you want?
19:34 <SageLord> i think we will just randomize the servers
19:34 <SageLord> this is a test:
19:34 <Lucifer> sinewav: sounds will be positional
19:35 <SageLord> #shuffle xserv ctserv pinktserv
19:35 <@armabot> SageLord: xserv pinktserv ctserv
19:35 <Lucifer> so your sounds should be single channel :)
19:35 <SageLord> ok can someone vouch for me, if someone questions?
19:35 <SageLord> this is the real shuffle
19:35 <SageLord> get ready!
19:35 <Flex> i'm here for the record!
19:36 <SageLord> #shuffle xserv ctserv pinktserv
19:36 <@armabot> SageLord: pinktserv xserv ctserv
19:36 <SageLord> hey epsy :)
19:37 <epsy> hi
19:37 <SageLord> so about your...  bracketing thing
19:37 <SageLord> :o
19:37 <epsy> yeah?
19:38 <SageLord> i have a very crude bracket made, is there a way that i can use yours?
19:38 <SageLord> you have like... a program for it?
19:38 <epsy> it parses a file and outputs a table
19:38 <SageLord> erm, i have no idea what that means
19:38 <epsy> though it's format is probably hard to understand
19:39 <SageLord> can i just send you the file?
19:39 <epsy> ok
19:39 <epsy> DCC it or whatever pleases you
19:39 <SageLord> what kind of file do i need to send?
19:39 <SageLord> DCC it?
19:39 <epsy> just a representation of the brackets
19:39 <epsy> may it be a drawing, ascii art or whatever
19:39 <SageLord> so like a text file, or jpg?
19:39 <SageLord> k
19:40 <SageLord> can i upload it here?
19:40 <epsy> DCC is the most used protocol to privately send files over IRC
19:40 <SageLord> ah, how do i do that?
19:40 <epsy> try right-clicking my name
19:40 <SageLord> nah that won't work
19:41 <epsy>  /query epsy
19:41 <SageLord> :/
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19:54 <guru3> man, so many people play armagetron now
19:54 <guru3> 145 people playing now
19:54 <guru3> blows my mind
19:56 <epsy> guru3, can you put armabot on auto-op?
19:57 <guru3> eh?
19:57 <guru3> when did i allow it to be on op permanently anyway?
19:57 <guru3> -_-
19:57 <epsy> in chanserv's access list
19:57 <guru3> (i suspect i did do that)
19:57 <ct|kyle> guru3: and this is not even the popular time
19:58 <guru3> opping when necessary != oppig always
19:58 <guru3> and you can't be using it to do things like op babybug
19:58 <BabyBug> lol
19:59 <guru3> and i'm off to dinner
19:59 <guru3> bbl
20:07 <arrow> #tea
20:07 <@armabot> arrow: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
20:12 <Concord> we're all in cafe
20:12 <Concord> I mean ww fort
20:17 <arrow> aha ok
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20:25 <Flex> what time does it start tomorrow SageLord?
20:26 <epsy> oh yeah, times?
20:28 <Concord> 19.30 like ladle
20:28 <epsy> what about semis and finals?
20:28 <ct|kyle> 20:15 and 21:00
20:28 <ct|kyle> :P
20:28 <ct|kyle> he said just like ladle
20:30 <Flex> #cafe
20:30 <@armabot> Flex: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
20:34 <Concord> #tea
20:34 <@armabot> Concord: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
20:36 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r986 Merging own work. || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] Even better fix for zthread detection.... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] Fixed zthread detection: if compilation succeeded, but runni...
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20:56 <zmanuel> Tomorrow? What's tomorrow?
20:56  * zmanuel is not up to date with tournament schedule again
20:57 <epsy> there's a brawl
20:57 <epsy> (most likely not me and flex tho)
21:00 <epsy> see the  # .tourneys topic
21:01 <epsy> Fortress Brawl - Team lists <http://www.twisted-rats.co.cc/forum/viewtopic.php?t=65> - <http://twisted-rats.co.cc/brawl>
21:03 <zmanuel> ah, that one.
21:03 <zmanuel> Also, there's no God of Clean Merges yet.
21:04  * zmanuel whould have thought some other programmer would have already made one up
21:05 <wrtlprnft> noone carrieds old versions around as long as we do
21:05 <epsy> Yet Another God of Clean Merges is far
21:05 <epsy> and it is Yet Another Yet Another- Software
21:06 <epsy> so crap, we don't want that
21:07 <wrtlprnft> #pray
21:07 <wrtlprnft> You finish your prayer
21:07 <wrtlprnft> The voice of The God Of Clean Merges booms: "Though hast angered me."
21:07 <wrtlprnft> Suddenly, a bolt of lightning strikes you!
21:07 <wrtlprnft> You fry to a crisp.
21:08  * wrtlprnft would be really disappointed if noone in here got this
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21:14 <epsy> *netsplit*
21:14 <epsy> *netsplit over*
21:15 <epsy> <wrtlprnft> oh phew, nobody read that
21:15 <epsy> :)
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21:24 <zmanuel> nethack, obviously.
21:26  * zmanuel never angered his god there, didn't want to lose protection
21:27 <luke-jr> zmanuel: whatever happened to the darcs plans? ;p
21:27 <luke-jr> IIRC, darcs was VERY good at merging
21:27 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8841 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. acinclude.m4): Manuel Moos: Merging own work.
21:29 <zmanuel> luke-jr: yes, it was. and it's very interesting in theory. but it has pathological performance problems.
21:29 <luke-jr> o
21:29 <zmanuel> and it lacks an own bzr-svn.
21:30 <luke-jr> I thought we had something that did like 4-way between Svn,Bzr,Darcs, and Arch, back some time ago
21:30 <zmanuel> yeah, but it wasn't nearly as good as bzr-svn at it.
21:30 <luke-jr> hm
21:31 <zmanuel> basically, it was just a system where a directory was managed simultaneously in two systems
21:31 <luke-jr> i c
21:31 <zmanuel> and then it'd do updates from both and commits to both.
21:31 <luke-jr> lame
21:31 <luke-jr> that's just asking for trouble
21:31 <luke-jr> maybe
21:32 <zmanuel> well, it also took care of file additions and moves and such, and commit messages.
21:32 <luke-jr> Git is getting pretty popular
21:32 <zmanuel> and bzr's merging is good enoug.
21:32 <luke-jr> bzr's merging has annoyed me ;)
21:33 <luke-jr> if you cherry-pick revisions, it's no better than Svn's
21:33 <zmanuel> how?
21:33 <zmanuel> it is if you use --weave :)
21:33 <luke-jr> which means bugfixes need to occur in the lowest common denominator
21:33 <luke-jr> hm
21:33 <luke-jr> why isn't it default?
21:33 <zmanuel> dunno.
21:34 <zmanuel> but if there's problems due to cherry-picking, it should warn you about it and suggest you use --weave.
21:34 <luke-jr> tbh, I think the biggest pro to bzr is the LP integration
21:35 <zmanuel> Actually, we're just on LP because of their bzr hosting.
21:35 <zmanuel> s/just/mainly
21:35 <luke-jr> heh
21:38 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Tronix25/Ubuntu/Tronixman-1.aamap.xml: Resource by Tronix25
21:38 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r790 Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 8824 to 8841:...
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21:54 <wrtlprnft> zmanuel: that was a brand new game… do you think i'd mess up an existing one? :-)
21:55 <wrtlprnft> how about a cvs-svn-bzr-darcs-git-arch 6-way with at least five bots merging back and forth?
21:56 <epsy> neat!
21:56 <wrtlprnft> hosted by five different people
21:56 <wrtlprnft> and if one breaks we get an rcssplit
21:56 <epsy> yeah, excellent
21:56 <wrtlprnft> and the resulting merge hell
21:57 <zmanuel> you only need one thing for that:
21:57 <zmanuel> svk
21:58 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8844 /armagetronad/branches/utf8/armagetronad/ (. configure.ac):
21:58 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
21:58 <@armabot> armagetronad: Added AC_LANG(C++) in places and shuffled test for ftgl header to
21:58 <@armabot> armagetronad: after freetype2 is detected, for those cases where ftgl doesn't add
21:58 <@armabot> armagetronad: freetype2's include and library settings.
21:58 <wrtlprnft> actually there should be multiple repos of every kind
21:58 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8845 /armagetronad/branches/utf8/armagetronad/ (. src/network/nConfig.cpp src/network/nNetwork.cpp):
21:58 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
21:58 <@armabot> armagetronad: Network strings are, for now, always latin1.
21:58 <@armabot> armagetronad: We can decide to activate utf8 network strings later if other plans fail.
21:58 <wrtlprnft> zmanuel: thanks. can't test this right now, but i will
21:59 <wrtlprnft> zmanuel: if we don't use utf-8 in language files and don't use utf-8 on the network, what benefit will users have?
21:59 <zmanuel> That language files CAN use them.
21:59 <wrtlprnft> heh
22:01 <epsy> speaking about language files, are we going to move to getttext?
22:01 <zmanuel> Fact is that we don't need unicode for our current main languages.
22:01 <zmanuel> polish apparently can benefit.
22:02 <zmanuel> what were the benefits of gettext again?
22:02 <epsy> mainly, when thiking right now about it, launchpad
22:02 <zmanuel> (apart from being widely used)
22:02 <epsy> meaning "anyone" could be translating stuff
22:03 <epsy> and that it doesn't seem to require much structural change, and it's easier everyday for devs
22:03 <wrtlprnft> i don't like the idea of replacing strings by their english translation
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22:04 <epsy> (though it means a wide search&replace)
22:04 <zmanuel> apparently, gettext handles that, even if stringschange a bit.
22:04 <wrtlprnft> well, what if we have multiple strings that are the same in english but different in other languages?
22:04 <epsy> or yeah, we can use gettext in our own style
22:05 <epsy> wrtlprnft, like what, for example?
22:05 <epsy> I hardly find any example
22:05 <wrtlprnft> japanese apparently has a lot of these cases
22:05 <epsy> hm
22:06 <epsy> gotta ask in #e, their lead developer lives in Japan and I think they use gettext
22:06 <wrtlprnft> i dunno, i just read that somewhere
22:07 <zmanuel> If we have many same strings meaning different things, we make them different :)
22:07 <zmanuel> I suppose gettext warns you if one translated string appears several times?
22:08 <wrtlprnft> how does it know?
22:08 <zmanuel> It appears several times in the source code in different places?
22:08 <wrtlprnft> it's just a poor function that gets called with a string as the argument
22:08 <wrtlprnft> usually bound to some intuitive name like _
22:08 <zmanuel> ah, but there's also the tool you run over the source files that generates the translation stubs.
22:09 <epsy> we're not forced to use _
22:10 <wrtlprnft> “usually”
22:11 <epsy> but kinda deprecatable
22:12 <epsy> mekius in #e says there was no problems with that
22:12 <epsy> and that if we run into this, we should chose better english strings :)
22:13 <wrtlprnft> honestly i don't care too much about translation
22:14 <epsy> but well, it's pretty easier to just type whateverblah("Boo! You're not allowed to do this!"), than 1/ having to imagine a keyword 2/ editing another file
22:15 <epsy> #eliza
22:15 <@armabot> epsy: Can you elaborate on that?
22:15  * BabyBug agrees!
22:15 <epsy> #eliza Void is empty!
22:15 <@armabot> epsy: Why do you say void is empty?
22:15 <epsy> :(
22:16  * epsy prefers the non-e liza
22:16 <PinkTomato> #eliza when will you talk about my parents?
22:16 -!- Netsplit calvino.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: tramshed, epsy
22:16 <@armabot> PinkTomato: What do you think?
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22:19 <ivantis2> epsy, remember when i sent you a couple texts? although i have unlimited texting, it cost me $0.20 for each outgoing to france
22:19 <ivantis2> i just got my new cell phone's bill
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22:20 <wrtlprnft> epsy: the actual script is smarter because it has memory…
22:20 <ivantis2> ..
22:20 <epsy> xchat won't reconnect :|
22:20 <ivantis2> epsy: check armalogs
22:20 <epsy> haha
22:21 <epsy> yeah, I was somehow lost during netsplit
22:21 <ivantis2> it didnt cost to receive, only for outgoing
22:21 <ivantis2> stupid cell phone companies..
22:21 <epsy> that's pretty much the normal billing for phone
22:21 <BabyBug> what phone costs you to receive? O.o
22:22 <BabyBug> as epsy said!
22:22 <epsy> #g .2 usd in €
22:22 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: PAYG US networks
22:22 <@armabot> epsy: .2 U.S. dollars = 0.15037594 €
22:22 <ivantis2> apparently i also subscribed to "love-meter"
22:22 <epsy> actually, that's cheap
22:22 <ivantis2> whatever that is
22:22 <epsy> haha, pwned
22:22 <PinkTomato> 12 pence for international Text? That is good.
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22:23 <PinkTomato> Though roaming texts are a rip off at 40pence!
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22:23 <ivantis2> lovemeter == $9.99/month for a computer to generate a random number and reply
22:23 -!- MrWordPress is now known as epsy
22:23 <PinkTomato> People spend way too much on text messaging...
22:23 <ivantis2> the number for it is close to a friend's number
22:24 <ivantis2> rly stupid
22:25 <wrtlprnft> lol, having to pay for receiving text messages would be fun
22:25 <wrtlprnft> that goes into the same category as text messages that break your phone
22:25 <epsy> wrtlprnft, actually, you can get charged for receiving MM
22:26 <BabyBug> your phone networks suck =P
22:26  * epsy is still waiting for a WiMax phone op to pop up
22:26 <epsy> my ISP has a license for doing this
22:27 <epsy> so, let's just hope, huh
22:27 <wrtlprnft> epsy: with phone calls you have a choice about receiving them, but with XMS?
22:28 <epsy> you don't
22:28 <wrtlprnft> yet another reason not to get a mms capable cell phone :-)
22:29 <wrtlprnft> hmm, maye emerge @kde wasn't such a good idea after all while being stuck on a text console
22:29 <wrtlprnft> it installs all the nearly useless stuff first
22:29 <epsy> on "blocked" contracts it will be put in queue if the user does not have enough money on his account
22:29 <epsy> dunno about others, rofl :<
22:31 <epsy> but well yeah, if you can disable MMS, disable it, heh
22:32 <epsy> if you have a phone cabable of decent MMS, sending a mail will be often better
22:32 <epsy> (esp since the user can choose to just not check it's inbox)
22:34 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/8.png
22:34 <wrtlprnft> :-D
22:35 <BabyBug> show off!
22:35 <wrtlprnft> kde still takes forever to compile…
22:35 <wrtlprnft> stupid split packages
22:35 <wrtlprnft> s/packages/ebuilds/
22:35 <epsy> is that 8 CPUs or 8 partitions?
22:35 <BabyBug> use GNOME
22:35 <BabyBug> 8 cpu's
22:35 <wrtlprnft> epsy: :-D
22:35 <wrtlprnft> 4 cores w/ ht
22:36 <epsy> haha
22:36 <epsy> genius
22:36 <epsy> BabyBug, better yet, use e :)
22:36 <BabyBug> gnome > e
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22:37 <epsy> not really
22:37 <BabyBug> yes really
22:37 <epsy> ok
22:37 <wrtlprnft> gnome < everything. the name says it all.
22:37 <epsy> don't touch your windows borders
22:37 <epsy> now resize a window
22:37 <epsy> You can't.
22:37 <epsy> great gnome
22:38  * wrtlprnft always configures kde to do that with win+lmb
22:38 <epsy> alt + mmb
22:38 <epsy> php > echo 2.0 % 1.5;
22:38 <epsy> 0
22:38 <wrtlprnft> some graphics apps use those <alt|shift|ctrl>+<somemb> combos, so i set it to windows
22:39 <epsy> how do I avoid that :<
22:39 <wrtlprnft> plus i'd always paste stuff by accident with mmb
22:39 <BabyBug> use a real language epsy!
22:39 <epsy> mod_python ftw huh?
22:40 <wrtlprnft> meh, python gets annoying if you just use it occasionally
22:40 <wrtlprnft> whatever happened to || and &&?
22:41 <BabyBug> epsy, no, mod_python is horrible =x
22:41 <epsy> BabyBug, so, can I use python for this? no
22:41 <BabyBug> epsy, technically, yes
22:41 <wrtlprnft> CGI!
22:42 <wrtlprnft> or use php to generate an xml file with the request data and then call python with that as input
22:42 <wrtlprnft> enterprise-style
22:42 <epsy> php lag + dom lag + python lag
22:42 <epsy> w0000
22:42 <@armabot> armacommits: [utf8-armagetronad-work] r799 define HAVE_FTGL_H now if single ftgl header is present (pre... || [utf8-armagetronad-work] r798 Network strings are, for now, always latin1.... || [utf8-armagetronad-work] r797 Added AC_LANG(C++) in places and shuffled test for ftgl head...
22:43 <BabyBug> Oh yeh! *cuddles wrtlprnft* You deserve that!
22:43 <BabyBug> *cuddles zmanuel* and you!
22:43 <wrtlprnft> oh, i forgot the xslt layer in between because of course your php script and the python one use completely different formats
22:45 <wrtlprnft> woot, finally this kde build is starting to use cmake
22:45 <wrtlprnft> so i might be close to kdelibs :-)
22:47 <wrtlprnft> scratch that, it just started to compile mysql (wtf?)
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22:52 <zmanuel> wrtlprnft: the selective utf8/wchar usage for ftgl seems to work fine.
22:52 <zmanuel> Can you find out how  to properly check whether the used ftgl supports utf8?
22:52 <zmanuel> (after you got your GUI back, of course)
22:55 <wrtlprnft> my laptop still has a gui :-)
22:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8847 /armagetronad/branches/utf8/armagetronad/ (. src/render/rFont.cpp src/render/rFont.h):
22:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
22:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: With only a little bit of macros, made it possible to switch between
22:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: feeding FTGL utf8 or wchar strings. Triggered by existence of ftgl.h
22:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: header currently, which is not exactly optimal (its existence only
22:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: says a UTF8 capable FTGL was installed in the past).
22:58 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8848 /armagetronad/branches/utf8/armagetronad/ (. configure.ac): Manuel Moos: Failed check for ftgl.h is no longer fatal.
22:58 <PinkTomato> If by working, I stuck some Japanese characters in a language file, and it worked with a different font :).
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22:59 <maclover201> I have a question
23:00 <smoothice> yeah?
23:00 <maclover201> In 0.2.8 auth, how do you set up users with spaces in their name?
23:00 <maclover201> Like
23:00 <maclover201> local_user Master Chief ADMIN_PASS
23:01 <smoothice> Does it not work with quotes?
23:01 <smoothice> ""
23:01 <maclover201> I've tried putting it in quotes
23:01 <ct|kyle> master_chief
23:01 <PinkTomato> LOCAL_USER Master\_Chief Pass.
23:01 <maclover201> it doesn't work
23:01 <maclover201> ok
23:01 <ct|kyle> ya PinkTomato is right :P
23:01 <maclover201> i'll try that
23:01 <smoothice> PinkTomato: I got php working!
23:01 <smoothice> PinkTomato: Random deaths!
23:01 <PinkTomato> smoothice: yay :D
23:01 <PinkTomato> was the scripts I gave any help?
23:02 <smoothice> PinkTomato: Yeah... but I had to edit them to make them work with my setup... I spent hours trying lol
23:02 <smoothice> PinkTomato: _finally*
23:02 <ct|kyle> smoothice: you mean random rubber's
23:02 <smoothice> Right :P
23:04 <wrtlprnft> argh! wtf does FTGL do?
23:04 <smoothice> epsy:  can you explain auth authorites
23:04 <maclover201> What are authentication authorities?
23:04 <maclover201> yeah
23:04 <wrtlprnft> they use a custom utf-8 iterator class that just reads beyond the end of the string
23:04 <epsy> no I can't, sorry
23:04 <smoothice> epsy: Is it possible to create your own instead of use forums and CT?
23:04 <smoothice> using*
23:04 <epsy> you can always use @x
23:05 <PinkTomato> smoothice: yes, the source is somewhere
23:05 <smoothice> Do you have to modify the src
23:05 <smoothice> To use more than forums and ct
23:05 <PinkTomato> Nope
23:05 <epsy> and there's even a beta nobody tested
23:05 <ct|kyle> you can even @durkadurkland.com
23:05 <epsy> #google armagetron http-auth-server beta
23:05 <@armabot> epsy: Search took 0.80 seconds: Armagetron Forums :: View topic - http-auth-server 0.1_beta1: <http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=199980>; Armagetron Forums :: View topic - http-auth-server 0.1_beta1: <http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18777>; “Stuff to run a full-featured auth server” branch in Launchpad: <https://code.launchpad.net/~armagetronad- (2 more messages)
23:05 <epsy> first link
23:06 <maclover201> ok
23:06 <PinkTomato> smoothice: you need to be an open authority to get a shorthand name, and be  on good terms with guru3 :)
23:06 <PinkTomato> though why replace @forums?
23:06 <smoothice> I don't know
23:06 <smoothice> lol
23:06 <PinkTomato> hehe :D
23:06  * BabyBug doesn't see the point in different authorities at all..
23:07 <epsy> replace @forums?
23:07 <BabyBug> Why not just have 1?
23:07 <ct|kyle> or just have @smootharma.ath.cx
23:07 <wrtlprnft> BabyBug: redundancy?
23:07 <epsy> BabyBug, power-hungry jerk!
23:07 <smoothice> so
23:07 <smoothice> It can be run
23:07 <PinkTomato> epsy: I meant, @forums works fine enough :)
23:07 <smoothice> as long as http-auth is running?
23:07 <BabyBug> wrtlprnft, hmm? explain =)
23:07 <wrtlprnft> there should be just one authority, and it should belong to meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
23:07 <PinkTomato> smoothice: afaik it is a php file
23:07 <PinkTomato> and interacts on a webserver?
23:08 <epsy> it's a php script
23:08 <ct|kyle> wrtlprnft: then CT's works since you can access that :P
23:09 <wrtlprnft> it doesn't have to be a php script
23:09 <wrtlprnft> you can write it in lisp if you feel like it
23:09 <epsy> http-auth-serv IS a php script >:)
23:10 <wrtlprnft> yeah, true
23:10 <PinkTomato> could you implement it into a website?
23:10 <maclover201> the Master\_Chief thing didn't work :(
23:10 <PinkTomato> try /login Master\_Cheif@
23:10 <maclover201> ok
23:11 <epsy> PinkTomato, as long as you have php...
23:11 <PinkTomato> In fact it might be easier to just be MasterChief :)
23:11 <maclover201> ok
23:11 <maclover201> lol
23:11 <wrtlprnft> ct|kyle: in theory… if i find out to what host to connect to under what name :-)
23:12 <PinkTomato> epsy: I mean, could you login using a global_id to armagetron related site without harming the security of the system?
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23:12 <epsy> no
23:12 <ivantis2> oh man oh man oh man
23:13 <PinkTomato> ah,
23:13 <PinkTomato> what if you used javascript
23:13 <ivantis2> dude, has anyone here had salmonella poisoning?
23:13 <PinkTomato> ?
23:13 <guru3> actually, i've been meaning to replace @forums
23:13 -!- G5 [n=G5@cl-506.dus-01.de.sixxs.net] has quit ["Over and out."]
23:13 <epsy> whatever you do, you will always harm security
23:13 <guru3> sigh
23:13 <ct|kyle> ivantis2: i'm allergic to it :P
23:13 <epsy> so really I hardly see a point in your question
23:13 <PinkTomato> OK epsy :)
23:13 <ivantis2> i ate some peanut-butter yesterday that was included in a recall because of salmonella poisoning
23:13 <ivantis2> already like 300 people are sick
23:14 <ivantis2> !!!!
23:14 <PinkTomato> and your not?
23:14 <ct|kyle> i'm allergic to that :)
23:14 <ivantis2> not yet
23:14 <ivantis2> how long would it take?
23:14 <PinkTomato> No,
23:14  * epsy feels BabyBug's going to be like "Yay ivantis2's gonna die!!!!!111"
23:14 <PinkTomato> if they already are sick
23:14 <PinkTomato> and your not
23:14 <PinkTomato> then
23:14 <epsy> you'RE
23:14 <PinkTomato> you are likely to not be sick
23:14 <ivantis2> die? no one has died yet
23:15 <BabyBug> Can you be the first? =)
23:15 <ct|kyle> you could always be the first :)
23:15 <ivantis2> yet
23:15 <ivantis2> it could be me!
23:15 <ct|kyle> lol BabyBug
23:15 <PinkTomato> sorry epsy ;)
23:15 <PinkTomato> guru3: what would you replace @forums with?
23:15 <BabyBug> and take flex down with you ivantis2!
23:15 <ct|kyle> ivantis2: and BabyBug with you as well :D
23:16 <ivantis2> well, i feel fine. would i be throwing up or anything yet?
23:16 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, i know you have a crush on me really...you're just saying that cause i won't hug ya! =P
23:16 <ct|kyle> #google salmonella poisoning Wikipedia
23:16 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Search took 0.25 seconds: Salmonellosis - Wikipedia , the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salmonellosis>; Foodborne illness - Wikipedia , the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foodborne_illness>; BioPortfolio - Salmonella Food Poisoning: <http://www.bioportfolio.com/indepth/Salmonella_Food_Poisoning.html>; Salmonella Poisoning - Zimbio: (3 more messages)
23:16 <epsy> if you throw up it's best
23:16 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: Nope
23:16 <epsy> otherwise, see you :o)
23:17 <guru3> PinkTomato: himitsu
23:18 <PinkTomato> secret?
23:18 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: i just pretend to have a crush on you in hopes of sneaking a cuddle out of you :P
23:18 <smoothice> how do I give my forums account admin privileges on a server?
23:18 <guru3> no, it is a secret
23:18 <ivantis2> where is everyone?
23:18 <ivantis2> am i dead?
23:18 <smoothice> What do I put in the config?
23:18 <BabyBug> lol sure sure ct|kyle :P
23:18 <epsy> smoothice, user_level
23:18 <PinkTomato> guru3: I will wait then :)
23:19 <BabyBug> Wow is so addictive =(
23:19 <wrtlprnft> ct|kyle: i probably can't hijack ct without someone stopping me eventually
23:19 <guru3> i'm waiting for the next revision of the protocol or some such for the web interface stuff
23:19 <guru3> orwhatever
23:19 <MaZuffeR> BabyBug, http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8026/1232159594139yw2.jpg
23:19 <smoothice> epsy: thanks
23:20 <ct|kyle> wrtlprnft: it would be too much work :P
23:20 <BabyBug> MaZuffeR, haha
23:21 <wrtlprnft> ct|kyle: even as root you're still a bit helpless inside a vm
23:21 <epsy> guru3, whatareyoutalkingabout?
23:21 <ct|kyle> wrtlprnft: and you don't even have root to everything
23:21 <guru3> i forget the name
23:21 <wrtlprnft> i have root to the host with the forums
23:21 <guru3> but a way to use aauth on websites
23:22 <epsy> web-auth with (AA)GID
23:22 <guru3> yeah
23:22 <wrtlprnft> mathias@colin $ ssh root@crazy-tronners.com                                                                                                         ~/armagetronad3/ftgl-2.1.3~rc5
23:22 <wrtlprnft> Last login: Mon Sep  8 16:27:43 2008 from stgt-5d833e1f.pool.einsundeins.de
23:22 <wrtlprnft> ct|kyle: :-D
23:22 <epsy> so that was a cough to my direction? :)
23:23 <guru3> not particularly, i'm in no rush
23:23 <ct|kyle> wrtlprnft: ah
23:23 <epsy> the current "protocol" sucks
23:23 <epsy> mainly because there's no protocol
23:23 <BabyBug> design one =) =P
23:23 <epsy> #aawikis aagid 2
23:24 <epsy> boo
23:24 <BabyBug> it's wiki
23:24 <BabyBug> not wikis
23:24 <BabyBug> #aawiki aagid 2
23:24 <@armabot> BabyBug: Search took 0.49 seconds: Match coordinator module - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Match_coordinator_module>
23:24 <epsy> wiki SEARCH
23:24 <epsy> #aawikis aagid v2
23:24 <epsy> #aawiki aagid v2
23:24 <@armabot> epsy: No matches found. (Search took 0.49 seconds)
23:24 <ct|kyle> wrtlprnft: i just su into it :)
23:24 <epsy> blah, it's probably linked from .... somewhere
23:24 <BabyBug> fail
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23:25 <epsy> #aawiki aagid
23:25 <@armabot> epsy: Search took 0.40 seconds: Match coordinator module - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Match_coordinator_module>
23:25 <epsy> #google site http://wiki.armagetronad.net aagid
23:25 <@armabot> epsy: No matches found. (Search took 0.62 seconds)
23:25 <epsy> #google site:http://wiki.armagetronad.net aagid
23:25 <@armabot> epsy: Search took 0.41 seconds: Match coordinator module - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Match_coordinator_module>
23:25 <epsy> :<
23:26 <epsy> well anyway it doesnt define anything yet
23:27 <epsy> but well, one big change I'm planning is also having the choice between more authentication schemes
23:27 <epsy> (so you could auth using RSA, for example)
23:27 <ivantis2> huh?
23:27 <ivantis2> no one cares about my possible illness?
23:27 <epsy> BabyBug:
23:27 <ivantis2> feh..
23:27 <BabyBug> oooo i see
23:27 <epsy> yeah, we are all lame
23:28 <epsy> and for god's sake .. standardized output§
23:28 <epsy> add some !!!!!!!!!!!111 to that
23:28 <ivantis2> ???
23:28 <ivantis2> l
23:28 <Lizmatic> I WANT MAH BLACKBERRY
23:28 <Lizmatic> NAU
23:28 <Lizmatic> NOT TOMORROW
23:28 <Lizmatic> NAU
23:29 <ivantis2> Lizmatic, ordered a blackberry?
23:29 <Lizmatic> YES
23:29 <epsy> use osx's timeshifting aircraft
23:29 <Lizmatic> yes* cough
23:29 <epsy> Lizmatic, no, she is planning on stealing one tomorrow
23:29 <ivantis2> you really should have gotten a G1
23:29 <epsy> ivantis2, *
23:29 <Lizmatic> G1? whats that
23:29 -!- nsh22 [n=nsh22@bas3-barrie18-1176218160.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #armagetron
23:29 <nsh22> hey all
23:29 <epsy> it's an ugly phone with a great unfinished OS
23:29 <PinkTomato> Lizmatic: expensive google phone
23:29 <ivantis2> BlackBerry == Microsoft, Android == Linux, iPhone == Apple
23:30 <Lizmatic> google phone? pff :P
23:30 <ivantis2> it runs Android OS
23:30 <PinkTomato> you type restart and it restarts
23:30 <Lizmatic> I had an old blackberry.. now ordered the blackberry bold
23:30 <Lizmatic> its sweeet
23:30 <PinkTomato> in a text message might i add
23:30 <epsy> BlackBerry = MS ? LOL ??
23:30 <ivantis2> no i have one, its great
23:30 <epsy> they have their own OS, dude
23:30 -!- G5 [n=G5@cl-506.dus-01.de.sixxs.net] has joined #armagetron
23:30 <ivantis2> uh yes
23:30 <ivantis2> MS made the blackberry i believe
23:30 <epsy> ...
23:30 <epsy> shut up
23:30 <maclover201> heh
23:30 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/neal/race/Spiral-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by neal
23:30 <ivantis2> isnt it somehow related to WindowsMobile?
23:30 <ivantis2> yes
23:31 <Lizmatic> i luv bwackbewwies
23:31 <ct|kyle> #bzr
23:31 <@armabot> bzr co lp:armagetronad (for trunk) bzr co lp:armagetronad/0.2.8 (for 0.2.8) bzr branch lp:~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.3.1 (bzr >= 1.4)
23:31 <epsy> not a bit
23:31 <ivantis2> while speaking about phones, anyone here heard of the Gmote?
23:31 <epsy> it's android on a wiimote
23:31 <ivantis2> great app for android
23:31 <ivantis2> to control computer
23:31 <ivantis2> through internet
23:31 <Lizmatic> gmote?
23:32 <Lizmatic> that reminds me of the wiimote
23:32 <Lizmatic> or the apple mote!
23:32 <ivantis2> it has a really cool feature: touchpad
23:32 <Lizmatic> *has got an applemote*
23:32 <epsy> through internet .. that's neat when you have wifi and bluetooth for free
23:32 <Lizmatic> touchpad SUCKS
23:32 <Lizmatic> god I hate touch screens and touch crap
23:32 <ivantis2> the screen turns into your laptop's touchpad
23:32 <ivantis2> its really really cool
23:32 <ivantis2> for me
23:32  * Lizmatic barfs
23:32 <Lizmatic> I had a samsung onmia
23:32 <ivantis2> because i just broke my mouse
23:32 <Lizmatic> tip: dont buy it.
23:32 <ivantis2> it aint workin
23:33 <epsy> NEVER buy from samsung lol
23:33 <epsy> they take easy things
23:33 <epsy> do .. I wonder what
23:33 -!- Durka_ [n=Durka@cpe-76-173-122-30.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
23:33 <epsy> and the make up something impossible to use
23:33 <epsy> in the way nobody would have ever thought of
23:34 <Lizmatic> its seriously impossible to use, that touch screen on onmia
23:34 <ivantis2> wow
23:34 -!- Durka_ is now known as Durka
23:34 <ct|kyle> omg Durka_ is here
23:34 <ivantis2> looking at my t-mobile bill, i have sent 896 texts, received 737
23:34 <epsy> I once got asked by some lady to find a contact in a tactile samsung phone..
23:34 <Lizmatic> what would you say are good phones, epsy?
23:34 <ivantis2> this month
23:34 <epsy> I made it to "search contacts"
23:34 <Lizmatic> I've always liked nokias
23:35 <epsy> then got lost
23:35 <ivantis2> Lizmatic, if i were epsy, i would say "G1s!"
23:35 <epsy> nokias here as well
23:35 <nsh22> lol ivantis, heard of the girl that sent 14000+ texts a month?
23:35 <nsh22> she feigns
23:35 <ivantis2> nsh22, did they charge her more for that many?
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23:35 <epsy> ivantis2, if I see a nice-looking android phone not-too-expensive I'd buy it
23:35 <epsy> ivantis2, now that's ugly and super-expensive
23:36 <epsy> Lizmatic, sony ericson has a good firmware, but they are bitchy with cables
23:36 <ivantis2> ugly?
23:36 <epsy> so no
23:36 <ivantis2> one thing i love about my G1: barcode scanner
23:36 <ivantis2> GPS
23:36 <epsy> weeeeeee you can work in a shop now
23:37 <ivantis2> unlimited internet usage
23:37 <epsy> that's not the phone; that's the contract
23:37 <ivantis2> epsy, no its to compare the price of the item. it shows lower prices in stores in your area
23:37 <epsy> and unlimited internet is generally hyper-expensive as well
23:37 <PinkTomato> smoothice: what did you put in the nameserver prefix box?
23:37 <ivantis2> my plan is around $70 a month
23:38 <epsy> the G1 isn't even sold in france..
23:38 <Lizmatic> I have a contract of 41 euros a month now
23:38 <Lizmatic> all inclusive internet crap etc..
23:38 <epsy> #g usd 70 in €
23:38 <@armabot> epsy: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
23:38 <epsy> #g 70 usd in €
23:38 <@armabot> epsy: 70 U.S. dollars = 52.6315789 €
23:38 <ivantis2> epsy, they made an Android phone for Australia, im sure you will get something for france sometime soon
23:38 <epsy> bs, that's ... like ...
23:39 <ivantis2> i may have convinced f00li5h from #perl to buy one, he lives in Au
23:39 <epsy> I wouldn't even consider that lol
23:39 <epsy> ivantis2, there will
23:39 <Lizmatic> pic of G1
23:39 <Lizmatic> linnnnk
23:39 <epsy> #google android g1
23:39 <@armabot> epsy: Search took 0.20 seconds: Android G1 - T-Mobile Google Phone: <http://www.androidg1.org/>; The new T-Mobile G1 with Google cell phone – Official Site: <http://www.t-mobileg1.com/>; FAQ: What the Android G1 phone will do for you: <http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9115375>; Almost Human: a review of Google's Android G1 phone: Page 1: (3 more messages)
23:39 <ivantis2> Lizmatic, watch the homepage video on the second link
23:40 <Lizmatic> http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/media/tracyandmatts_blog/windowslivewriter/512daccbc1f0_6667/htc_dream_photoshop1-1-_2.jpg ?
23:40 <Lizmatic> thats it?
23:40 <ivantis2> http://www.t-mobileg1.com/
23:40 <PinkTomato> It is with T-Mobile?
23:40 <ivantis2> watch the video there
23:40 <PinkTomato> I hate that network ...
23:40 <epsy> http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUSPEK8408320090109
23:40 <Lizmatic> watching
23:40 <PinkTomato> I think they have changed though
23:40 <ivantis2> PinkTomato, you could buy a developers phone from Google and use with any other provider
23:41 <Lizmatic> it looks fugly tbh :(
23:41 <epsy> if I could buy that ..
23:41 <ivantis2> you would
23:41 <PinkTomato> ivantis2: the postage costs about the same as the phone
23:41  * epsy lives in a t-mobile-free region of the world :-))
23:41 <Lizmatic> t-mobile is pretty shyt as well
23:41 <ivantis2> it is such a good phone!
23:42 <Lizmatic> but ugly
23:42 <Lizmatic> and fat
23:42 <epsy> PinkTomato, that's same for pretty much every phone out there
23:42 <luke-jr> In my experience, everyone seems to have crappy coverage where Sprint is win.
23:42 <Lizmatic> would you take that to bed? I wouldn't
23:42 <PinkTomato> how much is the developer phone?
23:42 <epsy> Lizmatic, http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUSPEK8408320090109
23:42 <ivantis2> luke-jr, what kind of phone do you have right now?
23:42 <wrtlprnft> ct|kyle: i don't think i have direct access to any user on that server other than root
23:42 <wrtlprnft> so i usually go the other way
23:42 <wrtlprnft> ssh and immediately su to the right user
23:42 <luke-jr> ivantis2: dunno, some Samsung thing I think
23:42 <epsy> lol!
23:42 <luke-jr> it's 4 or 5 years old
23:43 <luke-jr> antenna fell off
23:43 <ivantis2> 4 or 5 years?
23:43 <PinkTomato> ++ for luke-jr
23:43 <ct|kyle> wrtlprnft: it is on the forums :P
23:43 <epsy> is it usable?
23:43 <luke-jr> epsy: yeah, works better than most people's I know
23:43 <PinkTomato> reliases that mobiles haven't changed at all in the last few years and any more is a waste
23:43 <ivantis2> ha, antenna? my moms old phone when i was a small child had an antenna, i chewed it off
23:43 <epsy> samsung recently gave up with their home-brew firmware, they move to windows mobile lol
23:44 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: wrong
23:44 <PinkTomato> my hash key is broken on my mobile
23:44 <epsy> and tbh, that's a good move if you ask me
23:44 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: mobiles != phones
23:44 <luke-jr> OQO2 is the Right Direction (TM)
23:44 <PinkTomato> ??
23:44 <ivantis2> Lizmatic, if you find a "feature" that you hate on the home screen or other key part of the blackberry, could you modify the source code and make it better?
23:44 <ivantis2> Nooo!
23:45 <PinkTomato> What do you define as a Mobile Phone then?
23:45 <Lizmatic> I can
23:45 <Lizmatic> ..
23:45 <Lizmatic> I can't modify anything&
23:45 <Lizmatic> *
23:45 <@armabot> armacommits: [utf8-armagetronad-work] r801 Failed check for ftgl.h is no longer fatal.... || [utf8-armagetronad-work] r800 With only a little bit of macros, made it possible to switch...
23:45 <epsy> because Lizmatic understands whatever android is coded with
23:45 <Lizmatic> lol
23:45 <ivantis2> all the key apps of android are open source
23:45 -!- emmy_arma [n=peiaeman@pc238035.static.is.airbites.ro] has quit ["Leaving"]
23:46 <epsy> I am already convinced about android
23:46 <Lizmatic> you guys look at way different stuff in a phone than I do
23:46 <ivantis2> what is your convincion?
23:46 <luke-jr> ivantis2: FAIL
23:46 <luke-jr> OpenMoko is *supposely* 100% open source
23:46 <epsy> it's great
23:46 <ivantis2> luke-jr, how i fail?
23:46 <epsy> now the G1 sucks
23:46 <ivantis2> Lizmatic, IRC client for blackberry?
23:47 <epsy> if that lenovo phone I linked earlier was available in france, I'd buy it
23:47 <Lizmatic> ivantis2, i can go on irc on a blackberry? cool
23:47 <ivantis2> Lizmatic, im askng if there is one
23:48 <epsy> mibbit?
23:48 <ct|kyle> since G1 sucks then ivantis2 must also suck
23:48 <ivantis2> mibbit sucks on mobile devices, it is dependant on a nice dimensions of a screen
23:48 <epsy> hrm
23:48 <ivantis2> i have androidirc
23:49 <epsy> well, most have zoom-based browsers now
23:49 <PinkTomato> #google blackberry irc
23:49 <@armabot> PinkTomato: Search took 0.17 seconds: IRC and Instant Messaging on a BlackBerry | corey gilmore's blog: <http://coreygilmore.com/blog/2007/06/20/irc-and-instant-messaging-on-a-blackberry/>; Free IRC Client For The Blackberry | BlackBerry Cool: <http://www.blackberrycool.com/2005/03/free-irc-client-for-the-blackberry/>; Whats a good Irc ? I tried to dl, jmirc, virca, and wlirc and none ...: (3 more messages)
23:49 <ct|kyle> epsy: are you seeing those quotes again
23:49 <epsy> yeah, he really wont fix them
23:49 <ivantis2> epsy, no it reads the dimensions of the devices screen, i tried, it fails
23:49 <nsh22> hey ummm, if i want to be able to switch maps and have difernt settins for each map, do i nee dto include them in the map file itself
23:50 <epsy> how does it read a vitrual screen's resolution??
23:50 <ivantis2> idk
23:50 <ivantis2> i didnt write it
23:50 <epsy> a screen which resized permanently
23:50 <epsy> then the browser is fuckt
23:50 <ivantis2> also, it doesnt have gmote
23:50 <luke-jr> 1 hour netsplit⁉
23:50 <ivantis2> so fail
23:51 -!- maclover201 [n=chatzill@75-166-10-118.hlrn.qwest.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
23:51 <epsy> there's a bluetooth equivelent to this included with any bluetooth-capable nokia
23:51 <ivantis2> luke-jr, yes and it matches this way: servers->*->usersInclude("luke-jr")
23:52 <nsh22> is this server affected by the shutdown?
23:52 -!- AshitakA [n=AshitakA@pD9E01B7C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["...draws the curtains...So long!"]
23:52 <ivantis2> this server? we are on different servers most likely
23:52 <epsy> oh, they said they would mess stuff up right?
23:52 -!- ivantis2_ [n=Android@m4a0e36d0.tmodns.net] has joined #armagetron
23:53 <ivantis2_> i dont want to miss anything
23:53 -!- BabyBug [n=BabyBug@87.112.234.101] has joined #armagetron
23:53 <epsy> you just did
23:53 <ivantis2> like what?
23:53 <nsh22> lol
23:53 <ivantis2_> ??
23:54 <epsy> cheater
23:54 <ivantis2_> ok fine
23:54 -!- ivantis2_ [n=Android@m4a0e36d0.tmodns.net] has quit [Client Quit]
23:54 <Lizmatic> BabyBug <3
23:54 <BabyBug> Lizmatic <3
23:55 <ivantis2> also on my G1 i can stay signed in to AIM/Yahoo/Google talk
23:55 <Durka> Lizmatic </3
23:55 <Lizmatic> Durka o/
23:55 <Durka> :)
23:55 <epsy> PinkTomato, they should have sent it
23:55 <nsh22> errm...noob question :to rotate my maps, i need to download something corrct?
23:55 <PinkTomato> epsy: I have got it thank you :)
23:55 <epsy> wanna play? :P
23:56 <PinkTomato> epsy: need to reboot ! :D
23:56 <PinkTomato> and install..
23:56 <epsy> same here haha
23:56 <PinkTomato> How big is the download ?
23:56 <ivantis2> also on my G1 i can scare people into thinking there is a ghost mouse in the house!
23:56 <epsy> well, the boring download isn't any longer than 2 minutes
23:56 <ivantis2> with the Gmote
23:56 <ivantis2> :P
23:56 <PinkTomato> epsy: but your in france
23:57 <PinkTomato> you have fibre :P
23:57 <zmanuel> nsh22: you either need a scropt or version 0.3 or later.
23:57 <epsy> no I don't
23:57 <epsy> well I have, but I can't connect on it
23:57 <nsh22> script, like..... addming it to the source?
23:57 <PinkTomato> epsy: aw :(
23:57 <epsy> and it lets you set your config up, and sets you on a practice match while the rest downloads
23:57 <zmanuel> no, script like feeding input to the server
23:57 <PinkTomato> epsy: that's pretty neat
23:57 <epsy> er, shit, I guess that's covered by NDA lol
23:57 <nsh22> is it dificult to do?
23:58 <zmanuel> or changing everytime.cfg every round (which is easier with the ct modifications to the source)
23:58 <luke-jr> #weather 68127
23:58 <@armabot> luke-jr: The current temperature in 78th Ave. & Seymour, Ralston, Nebraska is 37.2°F (4:50 PM CST on January 17, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 28.4°F. Windchill: 37.4°F. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016.1 hPa (Rising).
23:58 <epsy> ct directly sends stuff to stdin AFAIK
23:58 <zmanuel> with 0.3, no.
23:58 <ivantis2> man i have a zit on my nose which has been bugging me all day
23:58 <nsh22> could someone who knows nothing about programming do it?
23:58 <zmanuel> check Xdemonic's posts on the forums, he recently had the same problems.
23:58 <ivantis2> #weather 66044
23:58 <PinkTomato> how do we enable 32 players?
23:58 <@armabot> ivantis2: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 46.0°F (4:58 PM CST on January 17, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 32.0°F. Windchill: 42.8°F. Pressure: 30.06 in 1017.8 hPa (Rising).
23:59 <PinkTomato> CXXFlags dosen't work now :)?
23:59 <nsh22> #weather innisfil
23:59 <@armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Innisfil, Innisfil, Ontario is 12.0°F (5:59 PM EST on January 17, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: -2.2°F. Windchill: 5.0°F. Pressure: 29.06 in 984.0 hPa (Falling).
23:59 <epsy> should be enabled by default on dedicated builds
23:59 <nsh22> i win
23:59 <nsh22> could someone who knows nothing about programming do it?
23:59 <PinkTomato> OK ty epsy :)
23:59 <epsy> and it has a configure switch
23:59 <zmanuel> yes.
23:59 <nsh22> kk
23:59 <nsh22> ill check the forums......
23:59  * epsy has an urge to play
23:59 <epsy> @tea

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